[06:44] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: Revert commit 74d9f137d: this didn’t work for component-mismatches @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=a6c246d25d6d65187068ae24debfa30eeced318e (by Didier Roche)
[08:32] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: server: move lsb-invalid-mta hint @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=e98eb59b39cff2008c213c7ee7451cc4b427e4a3 (by Christian Ehrhardt)
[17:17] <heythatstim> Hey, I have loved Xubuntu for a long time and just realized I can potentially contribute. Is there anything a python programmer with HTML & CSS can help with? Is this even the place to ask that?


[00:51] <JontheEchidna> I have a crash reported as happening at line 49 of this file: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/Transaction.cpp?revision=1208223&view=markup
[00:51] <JontheEchidna> :s
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> how can a '{' crash?
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> and even the only line in the function is returning a pointer, and should never crash
[00:57] <JontheEchidna> I don't see why QApt::Backend::errorOccurred would make a QMetaOBject::activate() call to a Muon function :s
[01:41] <ScottK> rbelem: If you make changes related to kuser, please remember that we use userconfig instead and let's figure out what needs to be done to it instead.
[01:43] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did you get a chance to look into kde4libs symbol changes with 4.5.95?
[01:43] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yup, no ABI breakage
[01:43] <rbelem> ScottK, do you think that using login.defs is the best way to do that?
[01:44] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: So I can just remove all the missing bits?
[01:44] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yes
[01:44] <ScottK> rbelem: No idea.  Just wanted to make sure you knew.  I've never looked at the code in any detail, but it is in Python.
[01:44] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Thanks.
[01:48] <rbelem> ScottK, i will take a look to see how it works
[01:48] <ScottK> rbelem: Thanks.  I know Riddell has done some work on it, so he ought to be able to give advice if you need it.
[01:52] <Riddell> it would be really nice to get userconfig upstream
[01:53] <rbelem> ScottK, no i thank you :)
[01:54] <rbelem> Riddell, where do you think is the best place to put it? how userconfig works?
[01:57] <rbelem> Riddell, login.defs seems to be a nice place to get some system defaults
[02:07] <Riddell> put what?
[02:07] <Riddell> i've not coded on userconf either
[02:09] <rbelem> Riddell, put the system defaults info, such as min and max uid
[02:10] <rbelem> Riddell, i thougth in kuser but ossi said somewhere else would be better
[02:27] <Riddell> ddd
[02:28] <Riddell> rbelem: I don't know I'm afraid, ask yuiry
[05:42] <stalcup> DONT FORGETE OT PUT IN YOUR TIME http://www.doodle.com/s6smg85bsvicnsn4
[05:43] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1213289 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (3 files) (log message trimmed)
[05:43] <CIA-39> Ensure that we get to do our error handling in ApplicationBackend before
[05:43] <CIA-39> MuonMainWindow has a chance to reload things behind our back in the case that
[05:44] <CIA-39> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1213291 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp Now that the auth check comes after workerStarted has been emitted, we must emit workerFinished() if authorization fails
[06:49] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1213383 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/ (7 files in 5 dirs) Automatically reload searches after a rebuild of the search index is triggered
[07:05] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1213385 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp Fix a bug where having an app installed from a PPA would make it not appear in the "Get Software" tree of sources with apps available.
[07:06] <JontheEchidna> yofel: ^ I think that's your bug. (Or at least it's why the Chromium PPA wasn't showing up for me)
[07:06] <JontheEchidna> off to bed for me
[07:59] <seawolf> hi,for bug kpackagekit doesn't start after update to kde 4.6 rc ,what's new? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/694194
[08:22]  * phononlogger yawns through the channel
[08:34] <phononlogger> microsoft surface anyone?
[08:35] <ulysses> what? o.O
[08:51] <phononlogger> ask the google
[08:57] <nigelb> what fail.
[08:57] <nigelb> phononlogger.
[08:57] <nigelb> :-P
[08:57] <nigelb> He swallowed up apachelogger.  Sigh.
[08:58] <\sh> happy new year :)
[09:00] <phononlogger> happy new year to you too \sh :)
[10:29] <droidslayer> \o
[11:03] <shadeslayer> seawolf: ill look at it today
[11:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im taking over kpk bug and setting a milestone for alpha 2
[11:17] <shadeslayer> huh
[11:17] <shadeslayer> i cant set a milestone for this bug apparently
[11:18] <shadeslayer> yofel_: pokey
[12:01] <dantti> shadeslayer: you just need to package a new version
[12:02] <dantti> shadeslayer: or I can make a patch..
[12:02] <dantti> since 4.6 is backport a new version seems no to be a problem
[12:21] <shadeslayer> dantti: the issue is due to KDE 4.6 right>
[12:21] <shadeslayer> im packaging the new release
[12:32] <shadeslayer> meh .. needs new packagekit
[12:33] <dantti> shadeslayer: no it doesn't, as kubuntu does not use the new stuff
[12:33] <dantti> shadeslayer: does the build fails?
[12:35] <shadeslayer> dantti: yeah .. needs newer packagekit
[12:35] <shadeslayer> 0.6.11
[12:36] <Mamarok> plasma-desktop uses permanently +50% CPU (on a dual core), is this to be expected? I'd rather go for a bug in KDE 4.6
[12:37] <Mamarok> (with new plasma config btw, I had to erase everything to make the second screen working)
[12:37] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ive seen that bug on launchpad i think .... against a older plasma release tho
[12:39] <dantti> shadeslayer: you can just patch the check, top level cmake file
[12:39] <dantti> it's important for openSuse and Fedora
[12:39] <shadeslayer> oh
[12:39] <shadeslayer> so it can work with older packagekit?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> well ... im packaging new packagekit as well :P
[12:40] <shadeslayer> so *shrug*
[13:02] <shadeslayer> dantti: 2 of your patches were applied upstream in packagekit right?
[13:03] <shadeslayer> the apt proxy one and apt crash
[13:03] <shadeslayer> Need to get 100 MB/168 MB of archives. After unpacking 575 MB will be used. << :S
[13:03] <shadeslayer> well ... i can take a bath till the time it compiles etc
[13:04] <shadeslayer> bah
[13:04] <shadeslayer> debian has a 0.6.11 package
[13:06] <dantti> shadeslayer: yes
[13:06] <shadeslayer> yeah .. i didnt see it
[13:06] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:06] <dantti> ok
[13:07] <dantti> shadeslayer: iirc if has 0.6.11 package, they want to start syncing in natty iirc
[13:08] <shadeslayer> um .. i dont get you
[13:10] <dantti> shadeslayer: about Debian
[13:11] <shadeslayer> yes .. im merging the package from debian
[13:14] <Quintasan> urgh
[13:14] <Quintasan> DAMN IT
[13:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: SIP madness?
[13:15] <shadeslayer> anyhow ... im leaving to take a bath... cya
[13:15] <Quintasan> No, I lost precious time
[13:17] <Quintasan> I could have done SIP when ScottK pong'd me back but I had to prepare for test from physics, and yet, our teacher told us today she is postponing the test at least two weeks
[13:17] <shadeslayer> lol ^^
[13:18] <shadeslayer> teachers--
[13:18] <shadeslayer> really gone now
[13:32] <tim> hi, i'm trying to compile a kate plugin, but it seems that i am missing a library: kateinterfaces
[13:33] <tim> there is a libkateinterfaces.so.4, but it seems, a symbolic link with the name libkateinterfaces.so is missing
[13:52] <shadeslayer> could someone sponsor a upload of new packagekit from here : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental
[13:52] <shadeslayer> ive just uploaded it
[13:53] <shadeslayer> well ... still uploading
[13:59] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:59] <shadeslayer> yofel_: apport-collect bugno opens up konqueror here
[14:07] <shadeslayer> dont upload that packagekit! :P
[14:10] <yofel_> shadeslayer: then you have x-www-browser set to konqueror, blame python-launchpadlib - apport-bug properly uses kfmclient
[14:10] <yofel> tim: I don't think we ship that file, can't remember why though right now
[14:10] <yofel> shadeslayer: and you should be able to set milestones for ubuntu bugs...
[14:10] <shadeslayer> tim: iirc theres a bug in launchpad about that
[14:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah .. but the bug was reported against the PPA
[14:11] <shadeslayer> so no milestone for that
[14:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: kpk crashes on natty too?
[14:11] <yofel> it does
[14:11] <shadeslayer> ok ... ill add a package for that then
[14:16] <tim> shadeslayer: just searched launchpad for bugs regarding libkateinterface. no success :/
[14:16] <shadeslayer> dang ... i forgot to add [LP: #bug]
[14:16] <shadeslayer> will have to ask sponsor
[14:21] <shadeslayer> tim: ok lemme look :)
[14:24] <Riddell> good morning Kubuntu
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: \o
[14:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: got some time to sponsor a upload?
[14:26] <steveire> Which launchpad component do I use to file a nouveau bug?
[14:26] <yofel> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:26] <yofel> and use apport
[14:27] <shadeslayer> apport++
[14:27] <shadeslayer> only thing is ... its in pyth0rn
[14:27] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: oi
[14:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can do
[14:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: packagekit merge from debian
[14:29] <shadeslayer> one sec ..
[14:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/7acpP5Qh << debdiff
[14:30] <shadeslayer> bahahaha
[14:31] <shadeslayer> that bug number needs removal
[14:31] <shadeslayer> why did i even put it there
[14:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/MSXpzjNQ
[14:34] <steveire> What are the important files to put in a xorg related bug? There's some xorg.0.log or something, but I don't know where.
[14:34] <Riddell> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[14:34] <Riddell> patch: **** malformed patch at line 103:
[14:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: pastebin mangles the patch as usual
[14:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: use ubuntu-bug (==apport)
[14:35] <Riddell> it should attach useful files for the given package
[14:35] <Riddell> ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:35] <shadeslayer> what what
[14:35] <shadeslayer> ubuntu-bug? :P
[14:35] <shadeslayer> you mean steveire right?
[14:36] <Riddell> um yes
[14:36] <Riddell> steveire: use ubuntu-bug (==apport)
[14:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/patch
[14:39] <shadeslayer> eh
[14:39] <shadeslayer> why does it have that bug number still
[14:39] <shadeslayer> wait
[14:40] <shadeslayer> fix0red
[14:41] <steveire> http://dpaste.com/303374/ How do I see those files?
[14:41] <Riddell> steveire: since you don't use gdm, the question is moot
[14:41] <shadeslayer> steveire: var/log/gdm
[14:42] <shadeslayer> that too .. :P
[14:42] <yofel> that only makes sense to add if you use gdm
[14:42] <shadeslayer> and i thought apport was smart about such stuff
[14:43] <shadeslayer> clearly not
[14:43] <yofel> it's the hook that's stupid
[14:43] <yofel> IIRC there was a bug about that
[14:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did i mention commenting on lp with rekonq should be fixed in next kdewebkit release?
[14:44] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[14:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: tsk ^^
[14:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: commenting on lp would be most awesome
[14:44] <shadeslayer> bah ... forgot that ...
[14:44] <Riddell> I can add the maintainer field
[14:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah adawit mailed me that the issue is fixed
[14:45] <Riddell> that would leave flash only showing 1/4 space as the main issue in rekonq which is a qtwebkit bug
[14:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you add a new bookmark in keditbookmarks? i cant seem to add a url in the location field
[14:48] <steveire> If I want to try proprietry nvidia drivers shold I get them from a repo or download myself? Are they available through a script in ubuntu repos?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> steveire: run jockey-kde in krunner
[14:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that's very broken
[14:48] <steveire> Thanks
[14:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: aye
[14:48] <shadeslayer> kde bug 262713
[14:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also ... rekonq alpha in 3 weeks
[14:49] <shadeslayer> and im working on fixing full screen
[14:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there a release schedule for rekonq currently?
[14:53] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://piratepad.net/rekonqmeeting
[14:54] <shadeslayer> and our agenda : http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/rekonq/Meeting/Agenda
[14:54] <shadeslayer> only half the stuff got done
[14:55] <shadeslayer> then people had to leave etc :P
[14:56] <Riddell> stalcup: this doodle thing says America/Chicago and the first three options are Sunday 16:00 18:00 and 21:30 is that really on US timezone?
[14:56] <Riddell> because if so apachelogger has picked some very anti-social times for himself
[14:56] <Riddell> which may be what he does
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can something be called from python ( using pykde or pyqt ) to set the focus to a particular window? ( for eg rekonq )
[14:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: possibly not, focus stealing is frowned upon
[14:58] <shadeslayer> ohk ...
[14:58] <Riddell> investigate http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classNET.html
[14:58] <shadeslayer> ok ... now i really need to submit those talks
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ahh
[15:01] <steveire> After changing to the prop driver my fonts look crappy. Is that normal?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> steveire: yeah ... enable hiting
[15:01] <shadeslayer> *hinting
[15:02] <shadeslayer> steveire: http://pastebin.com/RRRLABvF
[15:02]  * yofel is happy with slight hinting
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: talking about weird timings ..  on Mon the meeting time for me was 5.30 AM :P
[15:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: i like my text to be razor sharp :P
[15:03] <shadeslayer> seeing how my theme is dark ... it looks ok
[15:04] <yofel> hmpf, set it to no antialiasing at all and you should be fine looking at the pixels
[15:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: lol :P
[15:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we can haz new webkit snapshot?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> ah ... but for v8 we'll need this as well http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/qtscript-v8
[15:10] <shadeslayer> hmm .. no ...
[15:10] <shadeslayer> it has a dep on v8 ... on github
[15:16] <afiestas> rbelem: can you update the reviewboard patch?
[15:16] <afiestas> I was going to test it but it doesn't aply
[15:16] <afiestas> *apply
[15:17] <afiestas> also, are you sure about removing smb_kcm ?
[15:18] <rbelem> afiestas, are you using latest kdenetwork trunk?
[15:19] <rbelem> afiestas, we will refactor everything, so i thougth that it would be a nice idea to remove :)
[15:20] <shadeslayer> whee
[15:20] <shadeslayer> new KDE PIM
[15:21] <rbelem> afiestas, i commited a patch fixing the code style before send the reviewboard one
[15:27] <Zorael> Do we run /etc/X11/Xsession at all? I'm adding debug statements to mine and they don't seem to process.
[15:28] <shadeslayer> i have no such file :P
[15:28] <Zorael> Maverick
[15:28] <Zorael> $ dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xsession
[15:28] <Zorael> x11-common: /etc/X11/Xsession
[15:30] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:30] <shadeslayer> small s
[15:30] <afiestas> rbelem: the patch for a reviewboard mus tbe as atomic as possible
[15:31] <afiestas> just change whatever you need to change, no more no less :p
[15:31] <afiestas> (but removing smb_kcm doesn't seem required)
[15:31] <afiestas> btw, I've been thinking about afp, have you digg about it?
[15:31] <ScottK> Quintasan: How's sip going then?
[15:31] <afiestas> there is a server more or less supported on linux, and a client (afpfs-ng) with a library, but dunno what is the status
[15:32] <rbelem> afiestas, that's true, i will upsate the patch
[15:32]  * rbelem looking at afp
[15:32] <shadeslayer> could someone take up PIM? im fixing kpk right now ...
[15:41] <shadeslayer> kronos: so taking up PIM?
[15:42] <kronos> shadeslayer: will try ... if my net connection doesnt let me down ...
[15:42] <shadeslayer> kronos: its about 60MB's
[15:43] <kronos> shadeslayer: hmmm.. link to tarball ?
[15:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes a new qtwebkit snapshot would be good
[15:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what are you submitting talks about?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: well plasma mobile and neon
[15:43] <shadeslayer> kronos: they are on ftp.kde.org
[15:43] <rbelem> afiestas, afp seems to be nice :)
[15:43] <shadeslayer> kronos: under unstable/kdpim/<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what should I submit talks about?
[15:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: still need to get mobile working on my phone
[15:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you'r coming? :D
[15:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: to conf.kde.in? I hope so
[15:44] <shadeslayer> yayyy
[15:45] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:45] <Riddell> but getting a visa is hassle, I've no idea how long that takes
[15:45] <Riddell> not sure if I should book a filight before I get one
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uh .. not more than 2 weeks i think
[15:45] <shadeslayer> i think its better if you have the return tickets first ... not sure tho
[15:45] <rbelem> afiestas, i will check if it is possible share a folder without root power
[15:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i can ask around ... my dad works at the Airport :P
[15:46] <Riddell> well the website says don't book travel first
[15:47] <shadeslayer> oh ... hmm .. dont book it then ...
[15:47] <Riddell> presumably because if they turn you down then you might have wasted money
[15:47] <Riddell> but I hope they won't turn me down, I'm quite a respectable person
[15:47] <shadeslayer> iirc you can get refunds etc
[15:47] <Riddell> and if I leave it late then the price might go up
[15:48] <shadeslayer> dunno ... might go up ...
[15:50] <rbelem> afiestas, did you manage to apply the patch?
[15:53] <afiestas> rbelem: going to do it
[15:53] <Quintasan> ScottK: Not at all, I'm learning to maths test, it WILL be tomorrow unfortunately
[15:54] <Quintasan> ScottK: about what time tomorrow will you have some time?
[15:54] <ScottK> Quintasan: Tomorrow maybe a bit in my morning, but not much.
[15:54] <ScottK> Wed is better.
[15:55] <afiestas> rbelem: still same big patch?
[15:55] <Quintasan> ScottK: Let me check if there is something I will start learning the day before as usual :/
[15:56] <Quintasan> ScottK: not really, just English test, about what time are you free?
[15:57] <ScottK> Quintasan: I should be available after 1330 UTC.
[15:57] <rbelem> afiestas, wifi router was dropping me :(
[15:58] <Quintasan> ScottK: Sounds good, I think I might disappear suddenly somewhen between the maths and religion
[15:58] <afiestas> oks, let me try the big one
[15:58] <ScottK> Quintasan: I'll be around up to roughly 2100 UTC or a bit later, so no rush (this is on Wed)
[15:59] <Quintasan> Cool.
[15:59] <Quintasan> I think we'll get this done this Wed
[15:59] <Quintasan> Well, I'm off, maths won't do themselves
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/552502
[16:00] <afiestas> rbelem: File filesharing/advanced/propsdlgplugin/propertiespage.h is not empty after patch, as expected
[16:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: >Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: to apachelogger with this
[16:01] <Quintasan> !
[16:01] <shadeslayer> it could be because i downgraded python-dev build dep
[16:01] <shadeslayer> built fine on natty
[16:02] <rbelem> afiestas, yup
[16:02] <rbelem> ops...
[16:03] <rbelem> afiestas, maybe that happen when i converted the patch from git to svn
[16:03] <shadeslayer> !info python-defaults maverick
[16:03] <shadeslayer> :|
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults << maverick
[16:03] <afiestas> rbelem: we need a patch to test it :/
[16:04] <afiestas> update it when you can, no hurry
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/python-defaults
[16:04] <shadeslayer> it had 2.6.6-3+squeeze4 as a version in python-dev
[16:06] <rbelem> afiestas, oki, but you manage to compile?
[16:06] <afiestas> nope, I can't apply it
[16:06] <rbelem> :(
[16:07] <rbelem> afiestas, i m at a meeting right now, in some minutes i will update and ping you back
[16:07] <rbelem> thx afiestas :)
[16:10] <rbelem> Riddell, who is yuri?
[16:11] <Riddell> Yuriy Kozlov
[16:11] <Riddell> did the kde 4 port of userconfig
[16:11] <Riddell><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:11] <Riddell> yuriy_work:
[16:11] <rbelem> Riddell, cool :)
[16:11] <rbelem> Riddell, thx
[16:12]  * yuriy_work waves at rbelem
[16:13] <rbelem> yuriy_work, :)
[16:13] <rbelem> yuriy_work, i ll ping you in a while about the userconfig :)
[16:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its fixed in the updated version
[16:29] <shadeslayer> which means ill have to patch kpk to use old packagekit
[16:32] <_Groo_> brb
[16:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you give kronos ssh access to ktown? he's packaging kde pim
[16:40] <Riddell> kronos: yo, where's your ssh key?
[16:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you can too of course
[16:41] <shadeslayer> oh ok ...
[16:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: where do i put the keys?
[16:41] <shadeslayer> there are like ..4-5 files in there :P
[16:41] <kronos> Riddell: launchpad.net/~bhargav
[16:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: .ssh/authorized_keyss
[16:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: .ssh/authorized_keys
[16:43] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[16:44] <Riddell> go ahead
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yeah one sec
[16:44] <_Groo_> hey shadeslayer Riddell
[16:44] <Riddell> hi _Groo_
[16:44] <shadeslayer> hey :)
[16:44] <_Groo_> im doing the kdepim 4.5.94 packages
[16:44] <_Groo_> which need akonadi 1.4.94
[16:45] <_Groo_> which im building
[16:45] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: one sec
[16:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i send both debians to you? i cant upload via dput cause im at work :P
[16:45] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: we have akonadi 1.4.95
[16:46] <shadeslayer> you need to use that
[16:46] <shadeslayer> and theres akonadi 1.4.95 in experimental ppa
[16:46] <shadeslayer> for maverick of course
[16:47] <Riddell> hang on, are _Groo_ and kronos working on the same thing?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kronos hasnt started yet
[16:47] <shadeslayer> also
[16:47] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: did you do the .1 release?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> or the older release
[16:47] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im with experimental active and akonadi 1.4.95 wasnt updated.. i think its 1.4.90 thats there for maverick
[16:48] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i didnt checked it though
[16:48] <yofel> experimental has 95, I checked
[16:48] <shadeslayer> yeah .. i put it there :P
[16:48] <yofel> only for natty though o.O
[16:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: ^
[16:48] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:48] <_Groo_> yofel: ahhh thats why
[16:48] <shadeslayer> interesting ...
[16:48] <yofel> shadeslayer: you did that :P
[16:48] <_Groo_> yofel: i had to do it locally ...
[16:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: i thought i uploaded for maverick :P
[16:49] <shadeslayer> ill bbiab
[16:49] <_Groo_> anyway, im in the process of completing 1.4.95 kdepim
[16:49] <_Groo_> im doing it locally but i can send the debian file to anyone who could send this to ninja/experimental
[16:50] <_Groo_> unfortunatelly i cant right now :P
[16:50] <yofel> _Groo_: are you doing pim <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:50] <_Groo_> i can also send akonadi if yofel doesnt have the maverick baackport handy
[16:50] <_Groo_> yofel: no, 4.5.94... wheres the .1?
[16:50] <yofel> _Groo_: was uploaded a few hours ago
[16:50] <_Groo_> yofel: i didnt see it in the mirrors, let me check
[16:50] <_Groo_> yofel: :P
[16:51] <_Groo_> i cant use ftp, so i need to use a http mirror for ftp.kde.org ¬¬
[16:51] <_Groo_> yofel: let me see if the mirror already has it
[16:51] <_Groo_> yofel: also one question
[16:51] <shadeslayer> its on Ktown
[16:51] <shadeslayer> not on ftp
[16:51] <shadeslayer> which needs sftp
[16:51] <_Groo_> yofel: akonadi missing files shows a /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite3.so
[16:52] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: see debian/not-installed
[16:52] <_Groo_> yofel: do we need this? ah, ok..
[16:52] <shadeslayer> iirc no
[16:52] <_Groo_> ok, all checked then, akonadi now also has 3 new cmake files that i added to libakonadi-dev
[16:53] <shadeslayer> dude
[16:53] <_Groo_> -./usr/lib/cmake/Akonadi/AkonadiTargetsWithPrefix.cmake -./usr/lib/cmake/Akonadi/AkonadiTargetsWithPrefix-debian.cmake
[16:53] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: i alread did akonadi
[16:53] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:53] <_Groo_> two actually
[16:53] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im confirming :)
[16:53] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: its uploaded :P
[16:53] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: since im building it locally :P
[16:53] <shadeslayer> right
[16:53] <shadeslayer> it needs those two files
[16:54] <shadeslayer> fedora had them as well
[16:54] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: k, i know, i just wanted to check i did the right thing (tm)
[16:54] <yofel> _Groo_: it might be a good idea posting that you're doing something here _before_ doing it ;)
[16:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: btw did you uploaded my koffice 2.3.0 final?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: iirc he did ... but then i didnt hear from him and i started on it
[16:55] <_Groo_> yofel: well i didnt see kdepim and akonadi, so i went ahead
[16:55] <yofel> ah
[16:55] <_Groo_> yofel: its more for personal amusement also :P
[16:55] <yofel> :P
[16:55] <_Groo_> yofel: if it helps others great :D
[16:56] <shadeslayer> and then found complete borkage in the 4.5.94 release
[16:56]  * yofel goes into hiding again
[16:56] <shadeslayer> and then saw on mailing list .... that a new version is being released
[16:56] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: you better package the new release
[16:56] <_Groo_> yeah it was somthing like that
[16:57] <_Groo_> i forgot my wife birthday on friday >.< and agroo her, so this weekend was a nono for internet usage :P
[16:57] <_Groo_> i really didnt forget, i was just slow to remember :D
[16:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: can you pass me the url for <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: it didnt hit the mirrors yet
[16:59] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: or go ahead and compile it  ¬¬ and ill wait for the packages
[16:59] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: theres no url... its just on ktown for packagers
[16:59] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i dont know what ktown is
[16:59] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im just a poor minion, no real powers :P
[17:00] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: its a sekret place where all the tarballs are uploaded before a release is announced
[17:00] <shadeslayer> basically so that packagers get them before they are released into the open
[17:00] <yofel> _Groo_: are you on work or at home?
[17:00] <_Groo_> yofel: at work
[17:00] <yofel> :S
[17:01] <_Groo_> yofel: i cant use anything besides http protocol in this place :P
[17:01] <yofel> well, I can get you pim then
[17:01] <_Groo_> yofel: no ssh, no sftp, no nothing
[17:01] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: did you blog yet?
[17:01] <phononlogger> yofel: do you have a blog yet?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: ETOOMANYBUGS in kubuntu
[17:01] <yofel> pone
[17:01] <yofel> ...
[17:01] <yofel> nope
[17:01] <shadeslayer> fix0ring kpk
[17:02] <phononlogger> _Groo_: are you an official minion yet?
[17:02] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: go blog!
[17:02] <yofel> phononlogger: on todo list for nex holidays
[17:02] <phononlogger> yofel: go get a blog!
[17:02] <phononlogger> _Groo_: go become a minion!
[17:02] <yofel> *next
[17:02] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: who will fix kpk then?
[17:02] <_Groo_> phononlogger: how do i become an oficial minion?
[17:02] <phononlogger> yofel: oh dear, that is like in a billion years
[17:02] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: stop ordering people around
[17:02] <_Groo_> phononlogger: i fell the same oO
[17:02] <phononlogger> I need a blog army now!
[17:02] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: who broke it?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: as soon as me and Quintasan become devs, you become minion
[17:02]  * _Groo_ thinks phononlogger is apachelogger :P
[17:02] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: KDE 4.6
[17:03] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: he is
[17:03] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: skype again?
[17:03] <yofel> _Groo_: PM
[17:03] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: no
[17:03] <phononlogger> @campus
[17:04] <shadeslayer> kronos: wanna backport kpackagekit fixes? so that i can write a blog to please phononlogger
[17:04] <phononlogger> discussing bits and bits and more bits
[17:04] <phononlogger> it is madness right there
[17:04] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:04] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: phonon madness i hop
[17:04] <shadeslayer> *hope
[17:04] <phononlogger> kronos: after backporting go get a blog!
[17:04] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: no
[17:04] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: awww
[17:04] <phononlogger> we are cracking all sorts of encryptions right now
[17:04] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: and how soon are you becoming devs?
[17:05] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: as soon as we apply
[17:05] <phononlogger> we are currently prooving the universities security messures useless :P
[17:05] <shadeslayer> or i hope so :P
[17:05] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:05] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: i fear rekonq code is like this : http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cache:lmgtfy.com
[17:05] <phononlogger> I am not clicking this
[17:05] <phononlogger> not ever
[17:05] <phononlogger> no no no
[17:05] <_Groo_> lol
[17:05] <kronos> shadeslayer: yup..
[17:06] <phononlogger> ah, lolz, we now have access to the physic's dudes cluster
[17:06] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: and how soon are you aplying?
[17:06] <phononlogger> :D :D :D :D
[17:06] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: lol
[17:06] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: it this like the old tribes traditions? you need to kill an older dev in order to take his place?
[17:06] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: hmm .. no application yet :P
[17:06] <shadeslayer> oh if it were only that simple
[17:06] <shadeslayer> i could have become a dev at UDS
[17:06]  * phononlogger sets some nice motd
[17:07] <phononlogger> I clearly missed my calling in becoming a black hat
[17:07] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: traditions should be respected more often
[17:07] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: ^^
[17:07] <shadeslayer> we need new criteria for becoming kubuntu-dev
[17:07] <Riddell> _Groo_: will do koffice today
[17:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: k :)
[17:07] <shadeslayer> i need to stop and send these insanely important emails
[17:08] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: y u no fix my pinentry
[17:08] <_Groo_> kutuntu-dev criteria: being alive or barely, being constantly drunk or barely, obligation to shoot apachelogger on site everytime you see it in in wild
[17:10] <phononlogger> shadeslayer: i am hacking, leave me alone :P
[17:11] <shadeslayer> heh
[17:11] <_Groo_> phononlogger: is it safe to update phonon and phonon-extremities?
[17:11] <phononlogger> no
[17:11] <phononlogger> gst is broken
[17:13] <_Groo_> phononlogger: and vlc? does it know we are in 2011 now and have video?
[17:13] <phononlogger> yes
[17:13] <phononlogger> not in dragon though
[17:13] <_Groo_> phononlogger: but but...
[17:13] <_Groo_> phononlogger: does it work in dolphin preview?
[17:14] <_Groo_> phononlogger: so... gst X vlc X phonon OK or X?
[17:14] <JontheEchidna> yofel: btw, have you had the chance to svn up to see if your missing PPAs in MSC are fixed?
[17:15] <yofel> didn't check yet, sec
[17:17] <_Groo_> whats the diference between a unofficial minion and a oficial one? apachelogger/phononlogger cant abuse me anymore?
[17:18] <yofel> good question
[17:20] <yofel> JontheEchidna: looks right now, thanks!
[17:20] <JontheEchidna> yofel: cool, thanks for testing
[17:23] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: unofficial minons cannot be abused by phononlogger :P
[17:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im unoficial and he abuses me!
[17:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: all the time!
[17:24] <Daskreech> I thought being abused by phononlogger made them official minons
[17:24] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i have proof!
[17:24] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[17:24] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: yeah
[17:25] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: im scarred for life cause of him!
[17:25] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:25] <shadeslayer> he aint that bad :P
[17:25] <shadeslayer> why the heck dont these packages get published :|
[17:25]  * _Groo_ prefers to stay in silence ¬¬
[17:26] <shadeslayer> i do hate launchpad
[17:26] <shadeslayer> launchpad--
[17:26] <shadeslayer> launchpad--
[17:26] <shadeslayer> launchpad--
[17:26] <shadeslayer> launchpad--
[17:26] <_Groo_> i which LP gods add web uplad
[17:26] <_Groo_> web upload to packages in the ppa
[17:26] <_Groo_> so i could use it instead of dput
[17:33] <Daskreech> ~karma
[17:33] <kubotu> Daskreech has neutral karma
[17:33] <_Groo_> to whom do i send the debian file for kdepim <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:34] <_Groo_> ~karma
[17:34] <kubotu> _Groo_ has neutral karma
[17:34] <_Groo_> apachelogger ~karma
[17:34] <JontheEchidna> ~karma
[17:34] <kubotu> karma for JontheEchidna: 12
[17:34] <Daskreech> wrong way around
[17:34] <Daskreech> ha
[17:34] <Daskreech> ~karma ubottu
[17:34] <kubotu> ubottu has neutral karma
[17:35] <_Groo_> ~karma apachelogger
[17:35] <kubotu> karma for apachelogger: 11
[17:35] <_Groo_> ah WRONG!
[17:35] <_Groo_> karma for apachelogger:  absolute evil!
[17:41] <Riddell> _Groo_: I assume you compiled this koffice package on maverick?
[17:41] <Riddell> it's got some files in the .intall files which I had to remove for natty e.g. usr/lib/kde4/kritachalkpaintop.so
[17:43] <Riddell> e.g. kritachalkpaintop.desktop is in debian/krita.install but commented out in krita/plugins/paintops/chalk/CMakeLists.txt
[17:47] <ximion> hi there :)
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> ximion: hi
[17:47] <Riddell> hi ximion
[17:47] <ximion> JontheEchidna: Thanks for uploading the debconf-kde pkg!
[17:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: JontheEchidna new kpk : http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kpk/
[17:47] <JontheEchidna> ximion: you're welcome
[17:48] <ximion> you might want to sync PackageKit from Debian Sid
[17:48] <ximion> is has some pretty cool new stuff for KDE and a few bugfixes in APTcc
[17:49] <ximion> I merged all Ubuntu changes into the Debian pkg, so there should be no remaining Ubuntu-specific changes.
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> ximion: you can request that with the requestsync tool. you'll just have to get somebody to ack it. (I can do that)
[17:54] <ximion> JontheEchidna: Yep, but there might be reasons why you don't want the new version right now etc., so I asked :P
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> I can't see any. We're not in any sort of freezes yet, so it's all good
[17:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: yes i did them for maverick
[17:56] <JontheEchidna> (and I can do the request if you're more comfortable that way)
[17:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: and kritachalk was active in the cmake, i didnt changed it, its almost stock
[17:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: and its working here too :)
[17:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you upload kpk?
[17:57] <shadeslayer> because it needs a bug number added to changelog
[17:57] <ximion> !info python-dev
[17:59] <_Groo_> Riddell: but anyway is it wrong with kritachalk enabled?
[17:59] <ximion> JontheEchidna: The new package uses dh python2 instead of the pycentral dh module.
[17:59] <JontheEchidna> !info python-dev natty
[17:59] <ximion> JontheEchidna: Ah, all good ^^
[17:59] <ximion> some lower versions had a bug, which would make the pk build fail.
[18:00] <Riddell> ximion: we have one remaining patch in packagekit compared to debian, ubuntu_01_null_selection_crash.diff
[18:00] <ximion> Riddel: Hmm, let me see...
[18:01] <Riddell> ximion: I just uploaded it to natty, shadeslayer did the merge
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ximion: yeah its fixed
[18:02] <ximion> Riddell: Thanks! LP rejected my sync-request:
[18:02] <ximion> Sorry, something went wrong when Launchpad tried processing your mail.
[18:02] <ximion> We've recorded what happened, and we'll fix it as soon as possible.
[18:02] <ximion> Apologies for the inconvenience.
[18:02] <shadeslayer> one sec
[18:02] <ximion> shadeslayer: Jep, but in PK 0.6.12, I guess
[18:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: your kpackagekit package there contains kpackagekit-<IP_ADDRESS>/debian/.pc/ which isn't right
[18:04] <shadeslayer> will fix .. on the phone
[18:04] <ximion> patch of Sunday December 19 2010, so not in PK 0.6.11 - I'll add it to the Debian repos, as it might take some weeks until PK 0.6.12 is released.
[18:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'll just delete it
[18:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you have QUILT_PATCHES set in your .bashrc?
[18:05] <Riddell> ximion: great
[18:05] <Riddell> +#kubuntu_05_hide_rollback_button.difffile:///home/shadeslayer/Packaging/kpk/kpackagekit-0.6.2/debian
[18:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that looks wrong
[18:06] <shadeslayer> :S
[18:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I presume you compiled and tested kpackagekit?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> yep...
[18:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: great, uploaded, thanks
[18:09] <mgraesslin_> shadeslayer: what's the rekonq mailinglist address?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:10] <mgraesslin_> shadeslayer: thanks, just sent a long mail
[18:11] <shadeslayer> kewl :)
[18:11] <mgraesslin_> moderation queue
[18:17] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[18:36] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin_: can you cc me a copy?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> seems kronos quit
[18:36] <mgraesslin_> shadeslayer: your mail address?
[18:36] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin_: rohangarg AT ubuntu DOT com
[18:37] <Riddell> _Groo_: did you work out if you or kronos is packaging akonadi/kdepim ?
[18:37] <mgraesslin_> sent
[18:37] <shadeslayer> git it :)
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Riddell: _Groo_ afaik i asked kronos to switch to backporting kpk
[18:38] <shadeslayer> if only he would listen to me and not PM me :P
[18:40] <shadeslayer> also
[18:40] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-4.5.5
[18:40] <shadeslayer> i shall a) Blog after this and b) submit Cfp's
[18:40] <shadeslayer> no more packaging work for today
[18:40] <_Groo_> im backporting kdepim as we speak, almost ready now
[18:41]  * _Groo_ hates docbooks and waiting for dockbooks to complete compiling :P
[18:41] <Riddell> _Groo_: backporting?  what about natty?
[18:41] <shadeslayer> aye ^^
[18:42] <_Groo_> Riddell: all at good time dear sir XD
[18:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: i have maverick so i usually do it first to see if the stupid thing ACTUALLY compiles.. then i do natty and send them to ppa for testing
[18:43] <Riddell> ok
[18:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: in this case... i went maverick also cause i want kdepim :D
[18:43] <Riddell> _Groo_: you're doing akonadi 1.4.95 too?
[18:44] <_Groo_> Riddell: i actually did, but shadeslayer did it first, someone forgot to copy maverick backport to experimental
[18:44] <_Groo_> Riddell: so i didnt know and did it myself, but only locally
[18:44] <Riddell> experimental depends on maverick backports so that's fine
[18:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah but acording to shadeslayer he did maverick too, but only natty was available in experimental
[18:45] <Riddell> why is natty akonadi in experimental?
[18:45] <yofel> I think shadeslayer got the wrong release by mistake when uploading
[18:45] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin_: Btw. our Alt+Tab code is so strongly abstracted from KWin that you could easily integrate it as a ctrl+tab to walk through browser tabs ;-)  <<< OMG OMG OMG
[18:46] <Riddell> oh experimental depends on beta not backports
[18:46] <_Groo_> Riddell: dont know! dont hit the messenger! im just "twitting" what i read here Xo
[18:46] <shadeslayer> yep ^^
[18:46] <_Groo_> brb
[18:46] <shadeslayer> wait wait wait
[18:46] <neversfelde> why is there no diff.gz for choqok in natty? http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/choqok
[18:46] <shadeslayer> what do you want to do? :P
[18:46] <mgraesslin_> shadeslayer: my next big project will be make effects independend from compositing (for testing), so that the effects framework could also be used in rekonq
[18:47] <mgraesslin_> e.g. coverswitch for browser tabs
[18:47] <Riddell> neversfelde: looks like it was wrongly uploaded as a native package
[18:47] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin++
[18:47] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin++
[18:47] <shadeslayer> what do you want to do? :P
[18:47] <shadeslayer> erm
[18:47] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin++
[18:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: looks like akonadi 1.4.95 still needs packaged for both natty and maverick, do you agree?
[18:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 1.4.95 is already packaged for natty iirc
[18:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: where?
[18:48] <shadeslayer> experimental ppa
[18:48] <Riddell> oh right
[18:48] <neversfelde> Riddell: I have a package of the rc1 for maverick and lucid, but I am not sure how to update the natty package?
[18:48] <shadeslayer> needs a backport to maverick -> yes
[18:49] <shadeslayer> KDE PIM <IP_ADDRESS> needs packaging for natty and maverick -> yes
[18:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: akonadi can just go in the main archive, no need for PPA for natty
[18:49] <Riddell> neversfelde: well download the current package and grab the debian/ directory out of it?
[18:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'll upload it now
[18:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok ...
[18:50] <neversfelde> Riddell: ok, I already did this, I will do some more testing and attach it to a bug in lp
[18:50] <shadeslayer> ill backport kpk till then
[18:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you don't trust kronos to do that?
[18:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: he isnt around, and the bug annoys alot of people
[18:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: aren't you busy blogging and submitting? :)
[18:52] <shadeslayer> im going to do that after backporting :P
[18:53] <shadeslayer> dantti: i can build kpk with packagekit 0.6.8?
[18:54] <shadeslayer> the latest <IP_ADDRESS> release
[18:54] <dantti> shadeslayer: yes
[18:54] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:55] <dantti> shadeslayer: it's just that fedora needed to searchGroups with QStrings, but that method is not used when HAVE_APPINSTALL which is set on kubuntu
[18:55] <shadeslayer> ohk
[18:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: where did you find file:///home/shadeslayer/Packaging/kpk/kpackagekit-<IP_ADDRESS>/debian/patches/kubuntu_02_downgrade_packagekit_dep.diff ???
[19:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: in debian/patches/series
[19:00] <shadeslayer> damn it
[19:00] <Riddell> I tidied it up before upload
[19:00] <shadeslayer> thanks ...
[19:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: akonadi uploaded, thanks
[19:02] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:02]  * shadeslayer got sloppy over the last 2 uploads
[19:08] <_Groo_> you guys know why im getting lots of this lately? : Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/lintian/checks/deb-format line 63
[19:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: btw both akonadi (which is needed) and kdepim are complete for maverick, im doing kdepim-runtime now
[19:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: akonadi 1.4.95 and kdepim <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:10] <_Groo_> Riddell: actually scratch that, im still moving some files around in install for kdepim
[19:10] <_Groo_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:13] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: what was the reason for not using debsrc 3.0 format for choqok?
[19:13] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: snuggling up to debian
[19:13] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: ok
[19:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i have daily build for choqok if you need
[19:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i did a recipe some time ago and it builds choqok daily
[19:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^^
[19:13] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: we can haz for neon
[19:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: yofel was aware of it, i dont know if he added it to neon
[19:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i also do ktorrent and amarok daily builds
[19:13] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: k3b is in the todo
[19:13] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: yeah but with the standard packages i guess
[19:14] <shadeslayer> dude ... come join us in #project-neon
[19:14] <shadeslayer> we rant about phononlogger there
[19:14] <_Groo_> lol
[19:14] <shadeslayer> and for fun we do daily builds
[19:14] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: amarok is built with all packages including coverbling
[19:14] <shadeslayer> but ranting is the main thing
[19:19] <_Groo_> if my memory serves me right, yofel was going to promote my admission but you werent around and it stayed that way
[19:25] <_Groo_> why arent we using th dbus services in kdepim? from the non-installed file: ./usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.mailtransport.service.xml  for ex
[19:25] <_Groo_> just curious
[19:33] <Riddell> _Groo_: those are developer files, they're not needed for running apps
[19:33] <Riddell> they're essentially APIs like .h files and they shouldn't be installed unless known to be stable
[19:33] <_Groo_> Riddell: ah ok :)
[19:33] <_Groo_> Riddell: can you take a look at the missing files, im gonna pastebin it... mostly are html ones, just a sec
[19:34] <Riddell> _Groo_: I'm going to lunch, back in 20 mins
[19:34] <_Groo_> Riddell: k
[19:35] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: go ahead and pastebin i can haz look
[19:36] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: k, sec
[19:36] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/DD82QpaW
[19:37] <yofel> Riddell: btw. any reason why kdesdk-dev is empty? Someone did ask about the missing libkateinterfaces.so which is in not-installed
[19:37] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: html files its ok to add, my question is the mobile bins
[19:37] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: leave the mobile bins
[19:38] <shadeslayer> these packages are not built for armel, hence no point in including the,
[19:38] <shadeslayer> *them
[19:38] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: and desktop and evetyhing related to mobile?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: eh?
[19:38] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: like -./usr/share/applications/kde4/tasks-mobile.desktop
[19:38] <shadeslayer> everything related to mobile should be left out
[19:38] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: and below -./usr/share/kde4/apps/tasks-mobile/BulkActionComponent.qml
[19:38] <shadeslayer> needs to be split into a mobile package later on
[19:39] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: k
[19:39] <_Groo_> ok, so its basically done, the html part can be left out also, right?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: needs to be split out into mobile package, which is for later
[19:39] <_Groo_> the docbook stuff i mean
[19:39] <shadeslayer> docs
[19:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:39] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^^ any comments
[19:39] <shadeslayer> possibly split into new docs package?
[19:40] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: isnt a nono to add new packages so we dont differ from debian eggheads?
[19:40] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:41] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: debian hasnt packaged these yet, so who knows what they will do with doc files
[19:41] <yofel> we already differ enough, and it's not like they even have 4.5
[19:41] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: 4.6 rather
[19:41] <yofel> I don't see 4.5 either
[19:42] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:42] <_Groo_> can i wait for rc1 at least? docs tend to move around a lot, and im lazy to do an install file for things that change a lot before a release :P
[19:42] <yofel> and I would say a new doc package too, but I don't know if that should be seperated by language (that would be a lot...)
[19:43] <_Groo_> yofel: for all the 63 plus klingon?????
[19:43] <_Groo_> yofel: give it to apachelogger XD
[19:43] <yofel> ok, forget that, we would need to clone apachelogger to manage that
[19:43] <shadeslayer> heh ^^
[19:44] <shadeslayer> id suggest having something like : kdepim-docs-{$LANG}
[19:45] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: is it that big we need to be that picky? if its small just put them all in one package
[19:46] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: people like small packages :P
[19:46] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: AH!!!
[19:46] <shadeslayer> easily installable etc :P
[19:46] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: thats a myth to make you feel good!
[19:46] <shadeslayer> quick downloads
[19:46] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: dude .. its a PITA to install a 40 MB package over a 256Kbps connection
[19:47] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ok ok ¬¬
[19:47] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i know :D
[19:47] <shadeslayer> ive experienced it first hand :P
[19:47] <shadeslayer> kronos: ive fixed kpk :P
[19:47] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: but im all for making dial ups and slow dsl line users suffer
[19:47] <shadeslayer> you can fix FTBFS
[19:47] <yofel> install project-neon-all-dbg, *that*'s heavy :P
[19:47] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[19:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: you install project-neon-all ...
[19:48] <shadeslayer> infact
[19:48] <shadeslayer> good thing i installed it at UDS
[19:48] <_Groo_> k doing kdepim-runtime
[19:48] <_Groo_> should be done in a few minutes... and all done for maverick :)
[19:48]  * kronos has to read 50 pages on computer networking before sleeping ..
[19:48] <yofel> I have both installed, that's why I'm constantly out of disk space
[19:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: my lightning talk was in like 10 mins .. and wrote : sudo apt-get install project-neon-all .... done in 7 mins
[19:49] <shadeslayer> now that was speed
[19:49] <shadeslayer> kronos: heh :P
[19:49] <shadeslayer> kronos: exam?
[19:49] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: how many MBs per sec?
[19:49] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: dont remember
[19:49] <shadeslayer> 2MBps or something ....
[19:49] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: thats only 200kBytes/sec
[19:50] <kronos> shadeslayer: yeah ... sort of ..
[19:50] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: no .. i used capital B
[19:50] <shadeslayer> s/B/M
[19:50] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: ah still slow
[19:50] <shadeslayer> not 2mbps
[19:50] <shadeslayer> 2MBps
[19:50] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: i have 2GIGABYTES here
[19:50] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: data center
[19:50] <neversfelde> bug #701178  and also in bzr
[19:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: how modular is neon>?
[19:51] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: unfortunatelly my notebook is plugged to a stupid 100MB ethernet :P so i cant use it all
[19:51] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: hah
[19:51] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: telecom company :D fiver optics
[19:51] <_Groo_> fiber
[19:51] <shadeslayer> *nerdgasm*
[19:51] <yofel> well, there are packages for every kde module, and we'll probably get more modular after git move
[19:51] <yofel> kdepim was already split into pim and -runtime
[19:51] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: but i go all the way to 10MB/sec with aft-fast :)
[19:52] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah ill see kdepim-docs when it reaches rc1 at least
[19:55] <shadeslayer> someone fix pinenetry :(
[19:56] <shadeslayer> now to blog
[19:56] <shadeslayer> no wait .. Cfp first
[19:58] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: what do you blog so much about?
[19:58] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com << go find out
[19:59] <Riddell> hola
[20:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: that was a quick lunch
[20:00] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:00] <shadeslayer> Bio ....
[20:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: submit a talk first! even before the visa :P
[20:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the trick with lunches are to wait until there's no queue, then they take half the time
[20:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I've already submitted 4!
[20:01] <shadeslayer> :O
[20:01] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: no no no im not opening that link nonononono
[20:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what topics? :P
[20:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: Kubuntu, My KDE journey, packaging .debs and PyKDE tutorial
[20:03] <Riddell> _Groo_: did you find homes for all those files?
[20:03] <shadeslayer> pyth0rn
[20:04] <shadeslayer> so first up ... Neon talk
[20:04] <_Groo_> Riddell: hum what files?
[20:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no theyre going to be out in the street for a while :P
[20:04] <shadeslayer> _Groo_: PIM
[20:06] <Riddell> _Groo_: http://pastebin.com/DD82QpaW
[20:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: the doc ones?
[20:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: im leaving them to bit rot :)
[20:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: i was saying here im gonna wait for rc1 to create a -doc for them
[20:07] <_Groo_> Riddell: they usually change a lot before rcs...
[20:08] <Riddell> yeah that's fine, they used to be part of kde-l10n but now kdepim is separated from kde SC I guess they put them in with kdepim
[20:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: acording to shadeslayer or yofel, dont remember, the mobile ones are suposed to be left out for now too
[20:08] <Riddell> _Groo_: mobile ones should be packaged
[20:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: but but, they werent so far!
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: well .. they wont build for armel
[20:09] <shadeslayer> so no point in packaging them right now
[20:09] <shadeslayer> better wait till a RC release and then package them
[20:10] <Riddell> apt-cache show korganizer-mobile  says they are
[20:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why won't they build?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: since they are going into a PPA?
[20:10] <Riddell> it's still useful to run them on i386
[20:12] <shadeslayer> hmm ...
[20:13] <Riddell> _Groo_: so add a new tasks-mobile package
[20:14] <Riddell> _Groo_: did you find a home for those messageviewer files?
[20:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: so i need to add tasks-mobile and docs package?
[20:16] <Riddell> _Groo_: tasks-mobile yes, docs is fiddly because really it needs a separate one per language then kde-l10n-xx modified to depend on it
[20:16]  * _Groo_ head hurts
[20:16] <Riddell> _Groo_: so maybe just file a bug to remind us about the docs issue
[20:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: can i scream now?
[20:17] <Riddell> sure, it's IRC, I won't hear :)
[20:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: He's going to call you while you're sleeping and scream right when you pick up the phone ^_^
[20:20] <_Groo_> Quintasan: now thats an idea i like
[20:20] <Quintasan> Oops.
[20:20]  * Quintasan hides
[20:20] <Riddell> |
[20:21] <Riddell> Quintasan: good thing I don't have a phone :)
[20:21] <Quintasan> Really?
[20:21] <Quintasan> Not even a cell/mobile phone?
[20:21] <Riddell> yeah, my landline got cut off ages ago randomly one day
[20:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what did you write in Bio? .... Superior Head Kubuntu Dev?
[20:21] <Riddell> and I'm in the US now anyway where my GSM phone doesn't work
[20:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what!!
[20:21] <shadeslayer> wait .... i thought you were in UK? :P
[20:21] <Riddell> this week I'm in the US
[20:22] <Quintasan> Riddell: damn US & A'dians and their CDMA
[20:22] <shadeslayer> Quintasan++
[20:22] <shadeslayer> i wish they made a Droid X in a GSM model
[20:22] <Riddell> it's actually quite a good situation, I don't need a landline and now I get free internet
[20:22] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: >Droid X
[20:22] <Quintasan> enjoy ur locked bootloader
[20:23] <shadeslayer> its still a good phone
[20:23] <Quintasan> phononlogger: hey, get us a kubotu in #project-neon
[20:23] <kubotu> howdy Quintasan
[20:23] <Quintasan> kubotu: go to #project-neon
[20:23] <shadeslayer> what what what
[20:23] <Quintasan> ain't workin' :/
[20:23] <shadeslayer> kubotu: join #project-neon
[20:23] <kubotu> shadeslayer, you don't have 'basics::move::join' permissions here
[20:23] <shadeslayer> meh
[20:23] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you have skype? sip? i can scream there
[20:23] <Quintasan> phononlogger: We've got some bzr--'s to add
[20:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: i need kubotu
[20:23] <shadeslayer> in #project-neon
[20:23] <jussi> mhm??
[20:24] <shadeslayer> where we will have cybersex with him
[20:24] <jussi> talk to  harald...
[20:24] <Quintasan> What?
[20:24] <jussi> shadeslayer: not appropriate for here
[20:24] <shadeslayer> harald is running the bot?
[20:24] <jussi> harald runs kubotu, yes
[20:24] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Where is the poking stick I gave you?
[20:24] <shadeslayer> jussi: but isnt it hosted by you?
[20:25] <jussi> yes
[20:25] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Use it once in a while or it'll get rusty
[20:25] <shadeslayer> oh .. you dont have admin rights
[20:25] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:25] <shadeslayer> jussi: k back to work :P
[20:25] <jussi> shadeslayer: but it runs from his shell, I dont touch others stuff
[20:25]  * shadeslayer pokes phononlogger
[20:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: isnt harald banned on #project-neon ? :P
[20:25] <shadeslayer> or was it a kick
[20:25]  * jussi wishes Harald would stop changing his nick...
[20:25] <Riddell> rbelem: ping
[20:26] <Quintasan> I didn't ban him
[20:26] <Quintasan> :O
[20:26] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kick then?
[20:26] <Quintasan> It was because he stared a infinite loop between two bots on our channel, don't remember?
[20:27] <Quintasan> I kicked him along with the bots :P
[20:27] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:27] <shadeslayer> i can bring in a rbot for a while
[20:27] <shadeslayer> not forever tho
[20:27] <Quintasan> kubotu has cookies tho
[20:27] <shadeslayer> leave it running on my laptop overnigh
[20:27] <Quintasan> I want cookies.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i can add that plugin
[20:27] <shadeslayer> quite trivial
[20:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: canonical sprint in US?
[20:30] <jussi> !cookie
[20:30] <jussi> !cookie | shadeslayer
[20:30] <jussi> :D
[20:30] <shadeslayer> kewl :D
[20:30] <shadeslayer> but kubotu is far kewler
[20:31] <jussi> I should insist I get admin rights for kubotu since we host it :D
[20:31] <Quintasan> phononlogger: ^^
[20:31] <jussi> phononlogger: can has admin?
[20:31] <Quintasan> jussi++
[20:31] <Quintasan> ~karma jussi
[20:31] <kubotu> karma for jussi: 1
[20:32] <jussi> right, Im off for a bit
[20:34] <Riddell> hi stalcup, I announced 4.5.5, thanks for the packaging
[20:34] <Quintasan> Riddell, stalcup: When is the meeting?
[20:35] <Riddell> dunno, I can't work out the timezones on that doodle
[20:35] <Quintasan> I'm UTC+1 :P
[20:35] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:35] <ulysses> CEST
[20:35] <shadeslayer> UTC+5:30
[20:35] <shadeslayer> i win
[20:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: not really
[20:36] <Riddell> but I don't know what the doodle is
[20:36] <Quintasan> If they pick 20:00 UTC then you get some crappy hour :P
[20:37] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[20:37] <shadeslayer> yeah ... one of the times is 5:30 AM
[20:42] <_Groo_> im tired, im gonna try to to finish kdepim mess tomorrow
[20:44] <_Groo_> first run is done http://pastebin.com/NNaWp8jj
[20:44] <_Groo_> im gonna make tracker mobile tomorrow, and try to move the remaining stuff in kdepim around, kdepim-runtime is aok
[20:44] <_Groo_> although what the .mo files are supsoed to do?
[20:46] <Riddell> they're translations
[20:46] <Riddell> which also used to be in kde-l10n but now aren't
[20:46] <Riddell> we should add conflict
[20:46] <Riddell> we should add conflicts
[20:46] <Riddell> lots of them :(
[20:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: why do you hate me :P
[20:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: for now im gonna do tracker-mobile
[20:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: anything else? :P
[20:52] <Riddell> nope
[20:53] <_Groo_> Riddell: ok i installed im my machine.. still here o/
[20:55] <_Groo_> seeya guys tomrrow
[20:56] <sheytan> phononlogger hey
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yofel would 45 mins be enough for explaining neon?
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Difficulty : Intermediate
[20:57] <sheytan> phononlogger a question: in ku 11.04 we will not have that nice popup that will install all stuff like codecs, flash, etc at once? Everything will be installed separatly depending on the app you open like amarok/dragon player?
[20:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[20:59] <yofel> should be enough, I'll probably work out some actual usage instructions soon then
[20:59] <yofel> and we need to update the wiki page on techbase
[20:59] <shadeslayer> yus
[21:01] <Riddell> yofel: this is neon?
[21:01] <yofel> er, yes, that was about neon
[21:02] <Riddell> will we get an announcement soon then?
[21:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nope ... we are waiting on KDE to move to git :(
[21:02] <yofel> hopefully, but neon will be in a half-working state until someone fixes bzr
[21:03] <shadeslayer> yeah ... bzr is a huge roadblock
[21:03] <shadeslayer> for eg. no daily qtwebkit builds
[21:03] <yofel> oh, that fails too? ^^
[21:03] <shadeslayer> yep
[21:03] <Riddell> what's wrong with bzr?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: i tried doing one at UDS .. thats when the problem was discovered iirc
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: consumes too much memory
[21:04] <shadeslayer> so much so that the build farm gets unstable
[21:04] <yofel> Riddell: more memory than the buildds have, so bzr gets killed as self-protection -> build fails
[21:05] <yofel> Riddell: see bug 681582
[21:05] <shadeslayer> someone ought to set that has Critical
[21:05] <yofel> which goes actually back as far as bug 109114
[21:05] <sheytan> Riddell yo!
[21:05] <Riddell> hi sheytan
[21:05] <sheytan> Riddell how's the page? :)
[21:05] <sheytan> cd image
[21:06] <Riddell> hope to take a look at it this afternoon
[21:06] <sheytan> Riddell cool! can't wait to see it alive :)
[21:06] <sheytan> Riddell ping me when it comes alive :D
[21:06] <Riddell> was also trying to talk to syadmins about getting kubuntu.org to not need them to update it
[21:06] <Riddell> but no reponse yet
[21:08] <shadeslayer> sysadmins are slow
[21:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the wiki needs a new version of moin moin ... there are like 3-4 tickets on rt.canonical ... nothing :P
[21:09] <yofel> I would rather they fix the fact that I get an 'Internal Server Error' every time I save a wiki page :(
[21:09] <shadeslayer> that too :(
[21:09] <shadeslayer> probably fixed in newer Moin Moin
[21:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: why does it need a newer moin?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the current one doesnt let people with TZ as Asia/Kolkata edit wiki pages
[21:11] <shadeslayer> which includes me
[21:11] <shadeslayer> so i had to change the TZ to something else on my LP page
[21:12] <Riddell> oh aye, nasty
[21:12] <shadeslayer> so all the times on wiki's are foobared :P
[21:12] <shadeslayer> for me atleast
[21:13] <Riddell> and a billion other people
[21:13] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[21:13] <shadeslayer> i doubt a billion other people use the ubuntu wiki :P
[21:13] <shadeslayer> you never know tho
[21:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how big should a abstract be? :P
[21:14] <shadeslayer> i have like ....11 lines with the default size of the widget
[21:17] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mine were only two or three sentences
[21:17] <Riddell> just however long it needs to outline what the talk is about
[21:18] <sheytan> Riddell i hope they will agree, if not, we will never finish the page ;(
[21:18] <Riddell> sheytan: who will agree?
[21:19] <sheytan> Riddell sysadmins
[21:20] <Riddell> sheytan: to which?
[21:20] <sheytan> Riddell the kubuntu page
[21:20] <sheytan> we need like better access to the srv, right?
[21:20] <Riddell> oh to kubuntu.org, yes
[21:36] <stalcup> Riddell: no problem!  and you can change the date at the top
[21:39] <Riddell> what dat?
[21:39] <Riddell> date
[21:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the timezone .... you can set the time zone at the top of the calendar
[21:41] <shadeslayer> phononlogger: Neon talk submitted
[21:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ?
[21:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/LB7wi.png
[21:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh right, I just wasn't sure what is was on by default
[21:43] <Riddell> it seems that apachelogger offered to be at meetings at 04:00 his time
[21:43] <Riddell> but maybe that's normal for him
[21:43] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:43] <shadeslayer> i bet phonon keeps him up all night ^_^
[21:55] <sheytan> shadeslayer i hope you guys will implement at least some of my nice features :D
[21:55] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[21:55] <shadeslayer> well ... as long as someone can make them in HTML5
[21:56] <sheytan> shadeslayer isn't js enough for that?
[21:56] <shadeslayer> sheytan: well .. JS/HTML5/CSS
[21:57] <shadeslayer> just no flash :P
[21:57] <shadeslayer> i think HTML5+CSS can probably give us more interaction
[21:57] <sheytan> shadeslayer flash is evil
[21:57] <shadeslayer> and HTML5 is the in thing ...
[21:57] <sheytan> well, it's not me to choose te technology here :D
[21:57] <sheytan> anyway, hope someone will make it :)
[21:58] <shadeslayer> yeah :D
[22:14] <shadeslayer> sheytan: our new logo : http://weavesilk.com/?6d :P
[22:23] <sheytan> shadeslayer such a big one? :P
[22:23] <shadeslayer> hehe :D
[22:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uh about bug 693345
[22:32] <shadeslayer> i have : http://paste.ubuntu.com/552618
[22:32] <shadeslayer> i dont see the problem....
[22:33] <yofel> I have
[22:33] <yofel> Version: 4:4.5.90-0ubuntu1
[22:33] <yofel> Depends: libqt4-ruby1.8
[22:34] <shadeslayer> interesting
[22:34] <shadeslayer> i have KDE 4.5.95
[22:35] <shadeslayer> and yet those bindings say 4.5.5 0.o
[22:35] <shadeslayer> ha
[22:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well you're not using natty packages at a guess
[22:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah ... thats the issue i suppose
[22:38] <yofel> well, I'm off to bed, good night
[22:39] <shadeslayer> yofel: night
[22:40] <shadeslayer> im in bed ... j ust not sleepy
[22:40] <shadeslayer> and its 4AM !
[22:58] <shadeslayer> Need to get 503MB of archives. << *cringe*
[22:58] <shadeslayer> well
[22:58] <shadeslayer> not that bad
[22:58] <shadeslayer> After this operation, 1,231MB of additional disk space will be used. << thats what's bad
[22:58] <shadeslayer> anyhow .. night all
[23:09]  * shadeslayer starts cloning qtwebkit
[23:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that might take all night...
[23:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah .... leaving it running
[23:11] <shadeslayer> it was either this or install neon :P
[23:11] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ill try to build with v8 support ....
[23:12] <shadeslayer> and see how much faster stuff is
[23:12] <shadeslayer> i can link rekonq against the newer webkit and test
[23:13] <shadeslayer> also ... i can sanpshot and upload for neon ^_^
[23:14] <shadeslayer> night all


[01:20] <cyphermox> bladernr, can I bug you about the NM + broadcom issues?
[01:21] <bladernr> do I get to say no?
[01:21] <bladernr> ;-)
[01:21] <bladernr> sure, what's up?
[01:21] <cyphermox> it's up to whether you want it fixed or not ;)
[01:23] <cyphermox> I just want to make certain the testing you were doing for that was on lucid... and if you could apport-collect 539300, that would be awesome. I'm interested to see /var/log/syslog, and maybe .xsession-errors too
[01:24] <bladernr> ok... hold on a sec and let me see what it sends ;-)
[01:27] <cyphermox> sure, np
[01:31] <bladernr> there ya go... I'll see if I can dig up .xsession-errors and add that too
[01:32] <bladernr> and xsession-errors added
[01:32] <cyphermox> oh, i thought it was added
[01:44] <bladernr> it should be... I just added it
[01:46] <cyphermox> wow, that's a lot of dhclient logging
[02:09] <bladernr> heh...
[02:09] <bladernr> I think that's cumulative too though, not sure how far back dhclient logs go
[02:09] <bladernr> I reboot that thing A LOT because I do a fair bit of update and ISO testing on it
[02:10] <bladernr> though that sounded stupid, because ISO testing would wipe out those logs anyway... sigh... it's late
[02:10] <bladernr> and I'm STILL working
[02:10] <bladernr> heh
[02:10] <bladernr> cyphermox:  sorry, I'm not trying to ignore you, just working on a project and not paying too much attention to IRC at the moment
[02:12] <cyphermox> bladernr, don't worry. I'm half working on that, half trying to package something new in debian
[02:12] <cyphermox> (not at work atm)
[02:12] <bladernr> oh... cool... you kids and your boundless energy ;-)
[06:55] <ara> good morning all!
[10:48] <primes2h> Hello ara.
[10:48] <ara> hey primes2h
[10:49] <primes2h> I create the new zsync page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage
[10:49] <ara> nice :)
[10:49] <primes2h> and I redirected rsync to that
[10:49] <primes2h> ara: just a note.
[10:50] <ara> primes2h, thank you very much :)
[10:50] <primes2h> ara: I put #redirect etc. on the top of rsync page and I didn't delete the old content.
[10:50] <primes2h> ara: Do I have to delete it?
[10:51] <ara> primes2h, it shouldn't be necessary, but it is safer, to avoid people editing old content by mistake
[10:52] <primes2h> ara: Ok. Thanks. btw, I also change this accordingly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO
[10:52]  * ara hugs primes2h
[10:53] <primes2h> :-[
[10:54] <ara> ?
[10:55] <primes2h> ;-)
[11:05] <davmor2> morning all
[11:07] <ara> morning davmor2
[14:00] <davmor2> morning fader_ cr3
[14:01] <cr3> davmor2: hey dude
[14:03] <fader_> davmor2: Hey
[23:57] <MarcusA> hey guys
[23:57] <MarcusA> has anybody tried running ubuntu in a windows 7 virtual machine?


 Considering removing the Telegram bot from #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-offopic and switching those to Matrix. The Telegram aspect is becoming more toxic than I initially anticipated.
[18:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> Test
[21:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: good, I can't follow a conversation when everything is from: studiobot and almost every post includes text from the post it is answering. This makes it mostly useless anyway.
 eickmeyer ovenwerks why not swap devel to it as well? ~eylul
[22:14] <OvenWerks> swap devel to what?
 to matrix as well?
 devel -> devel channel
[23:26] <OvenWerks> sounds like having to have two chat windows open instead of one :P
[23:26] <OvenWerks> Whats wrong with IRC? It just works...
 ok i misunderstood what eickmeyer was saying
 I assumed making it work with matrix
[23:31] <OvenWerks> matrix works already I think...
 while keeping irc. :) not replacing it with
 yeah no that's my reading comprehension issuem hi btw ovenworks and I hope all is well? :)
[23:32] <OvenWerks> Though on #ardour there are people who complain about messages not making it across the bridge. (one way or the other)
 is the issue*
 it is delayed. I think
[23:34] <OvenWerks> That message from above with the [m] at the end of the name is from matrix so I think Eickmeyer's Test got through.
 yup


[10:01] <gnomefreak> everything is crashing :(
[10:29] <gnomefreak> im gonna try to get to bug mail today i might try without wrist brace on to make it faster but that ddepends if i can hold my wrist in normal position
[10:30] <gnomefreak> i also need  a blogger applet to blog onto wordpress and i cant find one excpt for wordpress but im under the impression that you need a server to use it
[11:24] <gnomefreak> asac: you here?
[11:25]  * gnomefreak thinks we have a problem with a package or 2
[11:26] <gnomefreak> mozilla-bookmarksftp is only or atleast depends on ff2
[14:13] <RainCT> Hi
[14:14] <RainCT> I've a little question... Am I right if I say that package mozilla-venkman in Hardy (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/mozilla-venkman/filelist) completely useless or am I missing something?
[14:15] <RainCT> (+is)
[14:16] <gnomefreak> RainCT: not that im aware of. what about it isnt working?
[14:18] <RainCT> gnomefreak: I haven't tried it, but it's creating the symlinks in usr/lib/iceape, usr/lib/icedove, etc.
[14:19] <gnomefreak> should be ok but testing it would be nice since we have both of those in archives
[14:19] <gnomefreak> as well as the upstream branding
[14:19] <RainCT> gnomefreak: but they are just transitional packages
[14:20] <gnomefreak> RainCT: yes i know sd i said someone needs to test it to make sure, either way its easy fix if needed
[14:20] <gnomefreak> RainCT: i might look at it nex week but im hoping my wrist allows me to type with both hands soon
[14:21] <gnomefreak> next
[14:21]  * RainCT has just changed that in Intrepid
[14:21] <gnomefreak> maybe ill ask jazzva to look at it
[14:21] <gnomefreak> when i see him
[14:22]  * RainCT decides to not be lazy and try if it works :P
[14:23] <gnomefreak> if it was merged or taken from debian since we dont really merge from debian but to debian maybe forgot to change it but if we did it than we nomrally dont merge them so it should work but like i said easy fix if needed
[14:25] <gnomefreak> we need to fix mozilla-ookmarksftp as well should be trival as well but im off for a while wrist is killing me
[14:28] <RainCT> ok, tried venkman... Firefox doesn't see the version from Hardy, but the version in Intrepid where I changed the names in debian/links works fine :)
[14:30]  * RainCT wonders why people keep merging a package to change the dependencies if it won't work anyways :P
[14:31] <RainCT> gnomefreak: uhm.. I can't find that mozilla-ookmarksftp package
[14:31] <gnomefreak> +b
[14:32] <gnomefreak> mozilla-bookmarksftp
[14:32] <RainCT> ah ok, now it makes more sense :P
[14:32] <gnomefreak> it depends on ff2 not 3
[14:33] <RainCT> ok, I'll have a look a it
[15:36] <RainCT> Is usr/lib/firefox-addons for Firefox 2 or Firefox 3?
[15:36] <RainCT> asac?
[15:37] <armin76> he's shopping
[15:38] <RainCT> oh ok
[15:38] <RainCT> the firefox-addons directory is for Fx 3, right?
[15:38] <armin76> no clue, try asking fta_
[15:47] <fta_> ff3
[15:48] <armin76> RainCT: ^
[15:49] <fta_> fta@ix:~ $ dpkg -S firefox-addons
[15:49] <fta_> ubufox, language-pack-fr-base, language-pack-en-base, firefox-3.0, firefox-3.1, language-pack-ja-base, firefox-4.0: /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions
[15:49] <RainCT> thanks
[15:57] <RainCT> fta: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004403.html - is this explained on some wiki page?
[16:00] <fta> not sure, but i don't think so.
[16:02] <RainCT> fta: should I document that somewhere under MozillaTeam/ or is there a better place for it (ScottK asked for it to be on the wiki)?
[16:09] <fta> RainCT, yes, please. Somewhere close to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List
[16:21] <fta> i received several requests for packaging of flock 2.0b2. My last deb is b1 but i can't find a TAG for b2. Is there someone from flock here ?
[16:21] <fta> http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/tags
[16:22] <RainCT> fta: btw, why is there no able with the extensions that we get from Debian on MozillaTeam/Extensions/List?
[16:22] <RainCT> s/able/table
[16:24] <fta> the last one perhaps
[20:10] <Jazzva> RainCT, thanks for the howto for extensions merging :).
[20:11] <RainCT> np :)
[20:14] <Jazzva> asac, who do we need to bug in order to blacklist some extensions on mom :)? (those maintained in bzr with mozilla-devscripts)
[21:25] <fta> crimsun, ff3 dies when mplayer is running, I'm using mplayer with ao=pulse
[21:26] <crimsun> fta: any if mplayer uses alsa?
[21:26] <crimsun> s/any/and/
[21:27] <fta> with alsa, apps were fighting for dsp, ending with no sound anywhere
[21:27] <fta> but that was a while ago, donno if things improved since
[21:37] <crimsun> fta: err
[21:37] <crimsun> fta: in intrepid?  with the pulse pcm+ctl modifications in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf?
[21:37] <crimsun> and libasound2-plugins installed
[21:37] <crimsun> mplayer shouldn't be attempting to grab hw:
[21:38] <fta> i've been using ao=pulse since hardy
[22:02] <crimsun> fta: to test, use ao=alsa (or is it alsa9 or alsa09 these days, sheesh?)
[22:02] <fta> crimsun, btw, if i remove ao= from my ~/.mplayer/config, mplayer is still using pulse
[22:03] <fta>         alsa    ALSA-0.9.x-1.x audio output
[22:03] <crimsun> it should be routing through pa via asoundrc anyhow.
[22:04] <fta> i mean, by default, mplayer is using ao=pulse
[22:04] <crimsun> so what does ao=alsa give you?
[22:05] <fta> seems ok.
[22:05] <crimsun> so the pcm+ctl routing is fine with ao=alsa, but using ao=pulse gives you the error?
[22:06] <crimsun> if so, you know where to file a bug
[22:06] <crimsun> (against neither alsa-plugins nor alsa-lib but mplayer)
[22:07] <fta> donno yet, ff3 dies after a while, always when idle, hence the bug report saying "it dies during the night"
[22:07] <crimsun> oh, that bug?
[22:07] <crimsun> I thought you meant it croaked immediately
[22:08] <fta> no, it doesn't
[22:08] <crimsun> I suppose it doesn't matter, since the nondeterminism is a bug in itself
[23:24] <asac> ok
[23:24] <asac> anyone still awake=
[23:24] <asac> ?
[23:24] <fta> i am
[23:24] <asac> brave ;)
[23:25] <asac> fta: cant we package a random snapshot of flock?
[23:25] <fta> we can
[23:25] <asac> RainCT: firefox-addons is for ffox 3
[23:25] <asac> firefox is ffox 23
[23:25] <asac> ;)
[23:26] <asac> fta: i think if we package a snapshot that is close to b2 thats good ;)
[23:28] <asac> fta: how is the flock on xulrunner going?
[23:28] <fta> well, i don't see the point of spending more time there if it never enters the repo. xulification of this one will never happen imho
[23:28] <asac> never?
[23:28] <fta> i mean upstream
[23:29] <asac> fta: did you try to build --with-libxul-sdk=`
[23:29] <asac> ?
[23:29] <fta> and as it's a huge hack on top of non xulified ff3, it needs serious work to xulify
[23:29] <asac> where did they get the non-xulified ff3 from?
[23:29] <asac> ff3 is xulified
[23:30] <fta> their hacks is on both ff3 and xul
[23:30] <fta> are
[23:30] <asac> ok
[23:30] <asac> xul needs to be sorted
[23:30] <asac> ff3 is ok
[23:30] <asac> as shipping duplicate browser/ directory isnt a big problem imo
[23:30] <fta> i tried once to split the two, got it to build fine but it failed miserably at runtime
[23:31] <asac> which two?
[23:31] <RainCT> asac: OK, just wanted to be sure :). I've written https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Merging, btw.
[23:33] <asac> fta:  how can i checkout flock?
[23:33] <fta> my branch is on lp
[23:33] <asac> fta: no i mean ... how can i checkout upstream flock
[23:34] <fta> mozilla-devscript, as usual
[23:34] <asac> whats the svn url to use for checkout ;)
[23:35] <fta> /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/mozclient/mozclient.pl flock
[23:35] <fta> svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk
[23:35] <asac> ok
[23:36] <asac> ridiculously hidden on their website ;)
[23:36] <fta> indeed
[23:36] <fta> http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser
[23:37] <asac> fta: do you know if they have a "pristine/unmodified" upstreawm import, so i can do a svn diff and seee what they changed?
[23:38] <fta> yep, there: http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/vendor
[23:38] <asac> err, i am getting svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk/mozilla now
[23:38] <asac> so i can diff that against svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/browser/vendor ?
[23:39] <fta> no
[23:39] <asac> ok i think i have it
[23:40] <asac> still confused
[23:40] <asac> why is there no "browser" dir in the svn: url :(
[23:41] <fta> there is, it's at http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/trunk/mozilla/browser
[23:41] <fta> coupled with http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/trunk/mozilla/flock
[23:42] <asac> fta: i cannot checkout those urls can i?
[23:42] <fta> browser it, it's a track
[23:42] <fta> -r
[23:42] <fta> (just a frontend)
[23:43] <asac> still confused
[23:43] <asac> so i svn co svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk/mozilla for flock
[23:43] <asac> and svn co svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/vendor/firefox-3.0/mozilla
[23:43] <asac> for unmodified upstream?
[23:43] <asac> ok at least i get something that way
[23:46]  * asac igorantly tries --wiht-libxul-sdk build ;)
[23:47] <asac> --enable-application value not recognized (flock/build.mk does not exist).
[23:47] <asac> thats without any option
[23:47] <asac> (not even --with-libxul-sdk
[23:47] <asac> )
[23:49] <asac> ok i copied browser/build.mk to flock/build.mk ;)
[23:51] <asac> ok trying our system nspr patches
[23:52] <asac> flockIRDFSQLDataSource not found
[23:52] <asac> did they add that to toolkit?
[23:52] <asac> hmm
[23:53] <asac> oh they added it to rdf/ ;)
[23:53] <asac> why that?


[02:29] <guest5352> hi
[13:35] <tonio> is there any how-to boot lubuntu from sd card?
[16:18] <bipul> wxl, Around?
[16:23] <pilne> hello all, i'm in a bit of a conundrum, and maybe i'm thinking too hard about it. I'd like to work in a qt based environment (to dev qt based apps, since i really feel qt5 is doing thing a lot more "right" than gtk3 for cross platform) and use ubuntu repos (because part of that goal is to dev for steam, and that is still what they recommend, an ubuntu base), but I can't get comfy with kubuntu, and lxqt just seems so up in the air in
[16:23] <pilne> the ubuntu ecosystem. Is there someplace I can read and follow the progress of moving lubuntu to lxqt?
[16:37] <pilne> i found the instructions on the wiki to give it all a shot, is the minimal image or server image a "better" approach to going about it?
[16:40] <pilne> my instinct based on reading is that the only difference is that minimal will pull everything while installing, whereas server will need an update after because it is a more "full" image.
[17:46] <pilne> i am not trying to be... difficult about this, I'd like to put my very limited abilities to use here and possibly help where I can.
[19:01] <Kyle> Hello quick question. There are two Lubuntu sites, which one is the official one?
[19:48] <swift110> hey all
[19:48] <tsimonq2> o/ swift110
[19:57] <swift110> how are you tsimonq2
[22:49] <pilne> sorry if anyone answered after I left, the gf surprised me with some riverboat tour tickets.
[22:53] <kilbith> hello, i just installed lubuntu and i'm a bit perplex about some things : 1. why pulseaudio ain't installed by default ?  2. how to permentaly disable the touchpad through a friendly manner (GUI) ?  3. why evince is installed by default whereas it's gtk3/gnome app and doesn't suit very well to LXDE ?
[22:54] <kilbith> *permanently
[22:55] <teward> permanently disabling the touchpad would involve unloading the driver from the kernel, or blacklisting the driver; neither can be done via the GUI sorry
[22:56] <teward> i have no comment on the others
[22:56] <kilbith> then why it's possible on Gnome ?
[22:58] <teward> are you talking about something like on Windows where you can uncheck the "Enable Touchpad" option?  In LUbuntu that GUI isn't shipped I don't believe, but not all the GUI approaches to that have the same featuresets
[22:58] <kilbith> yes, something like an horizontal "slider" that exists both on Windows and Gnome
[22:59] <kilbith> for toggling on/off


[18:39] <alkisg> In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1815172, we went through the verification steps, the update was published, and now adconrad asks for verification again, could that be some script bug?
[18:41] <tsimonq2> alkisg: Those are two different releases.
[18:41] <alkisg> tsimonq2: check bionic, it's already there
[18:42] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/18.2.8-0ubuntu0~18.04.2 <-- no, it just landed in -proposed.
[18:42] <alkisg> 18.2.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.2 500         500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main
[18:42] <alkisg> Oh, let me see where apt changelog pulls from then, as the fix is there
[18:42] <tsimonq2> It seems tjaalton kept those changelog entries.
[18:42] <tsimonq2> Human error, not script error. :)
[18:43] <tsimonq2> (If it's even a human error.)
[18:44] <tsimonq2> Although Timo did forget an SRU bug for the backport...
[18:44] <tsimonq2> hmm
[18:44] <alkisg> So, in comment #13 they ask me to test 18.2.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.2) bionic
[18:44] <alkisg> I do, it lands in -updates, everything fine
[18:44] <alkisg> Then another release is made, and another request for verification is done,
[18:45] <alkisg> ...but what does this new release address? It doesn't address my issue, which was already addressed...
[18:45] <tsimonq2> infinity: ^ Shouldn't this have been accepted with a tracking bug for the backport, or are we missing something here?
[18:45] <tsimonq2> alkisg: I would say ignore it for now, until Adam or Timo answers.
[18:46] <alkisg> ty
[18:47] <tsimonq2> Oh, it seems bug 1811225 does have the tracking for this release, so the only question here is what to do with the other bugs.
[18:49] <tsimonq2> alkisg: I'm willing to bet, after seeing that, that another round of testing will be needed to verify that the bugfix didn't regress between the upload currently in bionic-updates and bionic-proposed.
[18:49] <tsimonq2> So while it was fixed, regression testing is needed here. That would make sense.
[18:49] <alkisg> Yeah that makes sense, I hope that the fix wasn't overwritten by the larger update though
[18:49] <tsimonq2> That's what someone has to find out. :)
[18:49] <alkisg> No I mean dropped from debian/patches
[18:50] <tsimonq2> Well, it's referenced in the changelog, so I'm guessing not.
[18:50] <tsimonq2> It wouldn't hurt to grab the packaging and verify though.
[18:50] <tsimonq2> (The patch itself might look different because of the new upstream release anyway, thus the need for another round of testing I think.)
[18:52] <alkisg> It's a one-liner... thanks, I'll do a test when the it's built
[18:54] <tsimonq2> Heh, I didn't know the context at all.
[18:58] <infinity> tsimonq2: The backport bug is there in a previous changelog entry.
[18:59] <tsimonq2> infinity: Yep, I realized that. :P
[18:59] <tsimonq2> Thanks.


[00:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-3] (no packageset)
[01:20] <guiverc> I fear this maybe missed; but there is a difference on 20.04.2's scheduled release between https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule (feb 4, 2021) & https://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ (feb 11, 2021) ; someone wanna correct?
[01:28] <guiverc> ^ bdmurray  (you're listed on google calendar)  vorlon (you're wiki editor)
[03:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[03:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[03:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[03:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[03:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[03:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: isospec [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3] (no packageset)
[06:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxmlezout [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.06.2-4]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgnatcoll [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [21.0.0-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted isospec [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.2+dfsg1-3]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted osmo-iuh [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.6.1+dfsg1-2]
[08:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: minexpert2 [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [7.3.0-1] (no packageset)
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: minexpert2 [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [7.3.0-1] (no packageset)
[08:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: minexpert2 [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [7.3.0-1] (no packageset)
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: minexpert2 [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [7.3.0-1] (no packageset)
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: minexpert2 [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [7.3.0-1] (no packageset)
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minexpert2 [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [7.3.0-1]
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minexpert2 [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [7.3.0-1]
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minexpert2 [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [7.3.0-1]
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minexpert2 [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [7.3.0-1]
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted minexpert2 [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [7.3.0-1]
[10:31] <guiverc> vorlon, thanks for reply on community; can you have a quick look at the Ubuntu Release Calendar..   I hadn't closed the window hours back when I looked at it..   the window got covered by others.. and I fear I've X'd the wrong thing in error... (not yours, bdmurray's entry on google intending to close the window...
[10:34] <guiverc> I may have just scared myself for nothing..  it's showing again ... my heart beats once more..
[10:37] <guiverc> nah I'm confused.. I tried to copy it to my own calendar.. I'm worried I 'moved' it rather than making a copy; sorry for hassle
[11:03] <guiverc> tomreyn, did a check for me (thanks Tom), my worry was unfounded
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (hirsute-proposed/main) [2.04-1ubuntu37 => 2.04-1ubuntu37] (core)
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (hirsute-proposed/main) [2.04-1ubuntu37 => 2.04-1ubuntu37] (core)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblog4ada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5] (no packageset)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblog4ada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5] (no packageset)
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libncursesada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [6.2.20200212-4] (no packageset)
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libflorist [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2017-9] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libflorist [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2017-9] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libncursesada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [6.2.20200212-4] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtexttools [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-18] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libflorist [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2017-9] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtexttools [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-18] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libncursesada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [6.2.20200212-4] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblog4ada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5] (no packageset)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtexttools [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-18] (no packageset)
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: rust-signal-hook (hirsute-proposed/primary) [0.1.13-1]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblog4ada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5] (no packageset)
[17:25] <mitya57> ^ For rust-signal-hook, see bug 1906946 for details
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libflorist [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2017-9] (no packageset)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblog4ada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5] (no packageset)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libncursesada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [6.2.20200212-4] (no packageset)
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libflorist [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2017-9] (no packageset)
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libncursesada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [6.2.20200212-4] (no packageset)
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtexttools [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-18] (no packageset)
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtexttools [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-18] (no packageset)
[17:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgmpada [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.4-2] (no packageset)
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libflorist [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2017-9]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libflorist [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2017-9]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libflorist [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2017-9]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liblog4ada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liblog4ada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libflorist [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2017-9]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liblog4ada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libflorist [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2017-9]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liblog4ada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libgmpada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-2]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liblog4ada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.3.1.b6dafb49-5]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libncursesada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.20200212-4]
[18:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libncursesada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.20200212-4]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libncursesada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.20200212-4]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtexttools [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-18]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtexttools [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-18]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libncursesada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.20200212-4]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtexttools [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-18]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtexttools [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-18]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libncursesada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.20200212-4]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libtexttools [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-18]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtemplates-parser [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll-bindings [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-4] (no packageset)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgtkada [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>5f3cf4-2] (no packageset)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: geophar [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [18.08.6+dfsg1-7] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll-bindings [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-4] (no packageset)
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll-bindings [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-4] (no packageset)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtemplates-parser [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: asis [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2019-5] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtemplates-parser [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll-bindings [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-4] (no packageset)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgnatcoll-bindings [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-4] (no packageset)
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgtkada [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>5f3cf4-2] (no packageset)
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [i386] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: asis [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2019-5] (no packageset)
[23:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: glade [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [3.38.2-1] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[23:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtemplates-parser [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[23:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)
[23:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: asis [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2019-5] (no packageset)
[23:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtemplates-parser [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgtkada [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>5f3cf4-2] (no packageset)
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgtkada [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>5f3cf4-2] (no packageset)
[23:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libgtkada [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [<IP_ADDRESS>5f3cf4-2] (no packageset)
[23:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libaunit [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [21.0.0.fa386849-2] (no packageset)