[12:00] <amichai> jordanau, thanx
[12:00] <Zerboxx> Can anyone help me in regards to hdparm.conf?
[12:00] <jackmacokc> abbot45: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28846&highlight=transcode might help
[12:00] <abbot45> thanks
[12:00] <jackmacokc> sure
[12:01] <amichai> jordanau, i'll try default if it doesnt work i'll run it again
[12:01] <jackmacokc> let me know how that goes..i'm fixing to install that myself
[12:02] <abbot45> jackmacokc: sure
[12:02] <One> anyone know how to install enemy territory?
[12:03] <nakata> with a keyboard and mouse
[12:03] <darkaudit> One: you already have the .run file?
[12:03] <One>  yes
[12:03] <nakata> chmod +x et-linux-2.60.run.x86 (or whatever)
[12:03] <jordanau> One, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5246&highlight=enemy+territory
[12:03] <nakata> then ./et-linux-2.60.run.x86
[12:03] <nakata> or read that, i guess
[12:04] <One> ok thanks ll
[12:04] <One> all
[12:04] <darkaudit> One: once it's made excutable, run w/ sudo... the loki-type install scripts run best that way
[12:04] <Epix> anyone here use muine?
[12:04] <Epix> and know anything about it
[12:04] <jordanau> nakata, why is it that run files always have to be chmoded
[12:05] <One> dark: made executeabke?
[12:05] <|iggy|> anyone have an ati rage with 3d working on hoary ?
[12:05] <One> dark: made executable?
[12:05] <mikerobi> when i add my windows partion to fstab, how to I give access to all users in a group?
[12:05] <nakata> jordanau: probably security reasons.
[12:05] <nakata> mikelds: in your fstab options add "gid=<group gid>"
[12:05] <nakata> for that disc
[12:06] <nakata> jordanau: in win32, any file with ext .exe or .com is executable
[12:06] <Zerboxx> Ummm what do I do if my drive wont open?
[12:06] <Zerboxx> (cd drive)
[12:06] <nakata> that's how "viruses happen (tm)"
[12:06] <nakata> Zerboxx: unmount it
[12:06] <nakata> umount /media/cdrom0
[12:06] <Zerboxx> :) command not found
[12:07] <nakata> sudo
[12:07] <Zerboxx> did that
[12:07] <nakata> check again
[12:07] <mikerobi> nakata: thanks but i allready did that, and get permission denied
[12:07] <darkaudit> One: that's the chmod +x they were talking about... it will allow you to run the file
[12:07] <nakata> it's: /bin/umount <mount path>
[12:08] <Zerboxx> oh geez, I was putting uNmount, my mistake :)
[12:08] <nakata> right-o :P
[12:08] <One> dark: it will tel me how to do that in the how to link jordan posted?
[12:08] <Zerboxx> Nakata: says it's not mounted, tried /media/cdrom0, and /dev/hda
[12:09] <nakata> Zerboxx: certain your cdrom is on hda?
[12:09] <nakata> that's your primary master disc, isn't it?
[12:10] <jordanau> One, i believe it is under permission errors
[12:10] <Zerboxx> nakata: I was pretty sure, when I -d1'd it, dvd's play smoother
[12:10] <nakata> euh
[12:10] <nakata> well, if you're sure it's not mounted then, i suggest a paperclip in the 'force eject' hole on the front
[12:11] <nakata> but i doubt it's actually unmounted
[12:11] <nakata> fwiw
[12:11] <Zerboxx> nakata: Ok, I'll try that after a restart
[12:11] <Zerboxx> nakata: thanks :)
[12:11] <darkaudit> sudo eject
[12:11] <nakata> hehe
[12:12] <nakata> yukkuri!
[12:13] <Zerboxx> nakata: restarted, and it's as good as new :)
[12:14] <nakata> neato
[12:14] <mikerobi> nakata: I had alreadly set the gid for my windows partition, but I get permission denied
[12:16] <flodine> little help guys
[12:17] <flodine> when go to my synaptic i get an error.........E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[12:17] <flodine> why is this
[12:18] <flodine> well anyone
[12:18] <flodine> help
[12:18] <flodine> hello
[12:18] <amichai> can anyone here help me with my ati drivers? i'm missing one thing
[12:18] <flodine> wake up guys
[12:19] <amichai> flodine, what u need man?
[12:19] <xMaximex> should i install nvidia driver from nvidia or with apt-get ?
[12:20] <Chipzz> xMaximex: apt-get. definately
[12:20] <flodine> i get an error
[12:20] <flodine> when go to my synaptic i get an error.........E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[12:20] <One> ok so i tried the how to  on installing et, but it says no such file or directory. is there some sort of update command that i have to issu first ?
[12:21] <amichai> flodine, sorry man
[12:21] <flodine> sorry for what
[12:22] <yahalom> flodine, i dont know how to help y
[12:22] <flodine> i dont know what happen
[12:24] <flodine> that name ikaro is that the fluxmaster
[12:24] <blueyed> Anyone aware of ifrename? While booting it returns "Warning: Interface name is `eth0' at line 2, can't be mapped reliably." and the network card does not get mapped.
[12:25] <steved> flodline: have you edited your apt prefernces file lately ?
[12:25] <blueyed> I'll have to manually do pppoeconf everytime after boot.. (^^)
[12:25] <com64> hi i have davicom ethernet 9102/a and adsl modem connection ... but could not connect internet from ubuntu is there any1 have experiance with adsl modems with ethernet ... actually cant getting modem setup page from browser ?
[12:25] <flodine> yeah
[12:25] <flodine> steved
[12:25] <One> ok so i tried the how to  on installing et, but it says no such file or directory. is there some sort of update command that i have to issu first ?
[12:25] <blueyed> com64, have you done pppoeconf?
[12:25] <com64> ok
[12:25] <steved> flodline: read this :) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/synaptic-devel/2003-05/msg00022.html
[12:26] <com64> sorry just tryed fhclient at eth0
[12:26] <com64> and in device config have davicom i mean my ethernet card is fully working ... but cant getting any ip ...
[12:26] <blueyed> fhclient?
[12:26] <oasiao> how do u use your firewall on ubuntu
[12:26] <com64> tryed also giving ips from terminal with ifconfig
[12:26] <blueyed> oasiao, I use guarddog
[12:26] <com64> dhclient i mean
[12:27] <blueyed> com64, have you run pppoeconfig?
[12:28] <com64> i will but cant getting terminal screen anymore ... it was working but now just it says its starting and nothing else ...
[12:28] <com64> if its not work with pppoeconfig what should i try next cos i tryed all things too ...
[12:29] <blueyed> com64, pppoeconf should work.. :)
[12:29] <com64> ok if not ?
[12:29] <blueyed> no idea.. :)
[12:29] <com64> ok thanks
[12:31] <One> ok so i tried the how to  on installing et, but it says no such file or directory. is there some sort of update command that i have to issu first ?
[12:32] <amichai> anyone know the fglrx?
[12:32] <amichai> jordanau, can u help me?
[12:32] <Burgundavia> amichai, what is the issue?
[12:33] <amichai> Burgundavia, can u look at my xorg.conf and tell me why my fgrlx doesnt work. i did everything. there is one thing missing not sure what. it usually works, fresh install.
[12:33] <amichai> Burgundavia, i built the modules, i did fglrxconfig, i still get 600 fPS
[12:33] <net_benjo> hello everyone...I'm curious...should I install hoary hedgehog from scratch or should I just change my sources.lst to have only hoary repositories and use apt-get upgrade ?? i hope thats clear
[12:33] <amichai> Burgundavia, and ati isnt my gl
[12:33] <Burgundavia> amichai, first of all, you don't need to build the modules
[12:34] <spine> does anyone play around with crossfire?
[12:34] <One> is there a chanel i can go to get help installing applications?
[12:34] <Burgundavia> amichai, and do you have an nforce2 board?
[12:34] <Burgundavia> One, this one
[12:34] <spine> I have a question about the server
[12:34] <Burgundavia> One, which app?
[12:34] <One> enemy territory
[12:34] <amichai> Burgundavia, dont think so.
[12:34] <amichai> Burgundavia, not sure
[12:34] <Burgundavia> amichai, ok what is your board?
[12:34] <Burgundavia> amichai, your motherboard I mean
[12:34] <amichai> Burgundavia, i've onyl got it to work through building the modules
[12:34] <amichai> Burgundavia, gigabyte
[12:35] <Burgundavia> amichai, what model number?
[12:35] <amichai> Burgundavia, k7
[12:35] <Burgundavia> amichai, which one specifically?
[12:35] <amichai> Burgundavia, k7 triton
[12:35] <One> burg, i tried /et-linux-2.56-2.x86.run but it says no such file or directory
[12:35] <Burgundavia> One, hmm, no idea, sorry
[12:36] <Burgundavia> amichai, you do have an nforce2 chipset motherboard
[12:36] <amichai> Burgundavia, i think so
[12:36] <Burgundavia> amichai, so you need to do 2 things. 1: install the default restricted modules out of the repos
[12:36] <amichai> Burgundavia, i know my sound is nforce
[12:36] <Burgundavia> 2: edit your xorg.conf with one line
[12:37] <Burgundavia> add '   *Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" to the device section
[12:37] <Burgundavia> then reboot
[12:37] <amichai> Burgundavia, i already have that
[12:37] <Burgundavia> amichai, can you /query me with your xorg.conf?
[12:38] <amichai> Burgundavia, ok
[12:38] <tombs> hi ppl
[12:38] <Burgundavia> salut tombs
[12:40] <cens0red> good moaning.
[12:41] <guruff> lo
[12:41] <amichai> Burgundavia, find anything?
[12:41] <Burgundavia> amichai, still scrolling through
[12:41] <Burgundavia> irc is slow for that
[12:41] <guruff> what can i use to talk + video linux <->win32 ? except for gnomemeeting ?
[12:42] <amichai> Burgundavia, cool )
[12:42] <Burgundavia> amichai, can you post everything after Section "Device" again?
[12:42] <Burgundavia> amichai, seems to have stopped
[12:44] <amichai> Burgundavia, can i use pastebin.com
[12:44] <amichai> ?
[12:45] <Burgundavia> amichai, sure
[12:47] <amichai> Burgundavia, xor.0.log http://pastebin.com/276919
[12:48] <amichai> Burgundavia, xorg http://pastebin.com/276918
[12:51] <amichai> Burgundavia, so its that i forgot to change the name?
[12:51] <Burgundavia> amichai, you are still using free drivers
[12:51] <Burgundavia> not binary ones
[12:52] <amichai> Burgundavia, directly from ati, why?
[12:53] <amichai> Burgundavia, is there a better way?
[12:53] <Burgundavia> driver "ati" is not the binary ati drivers
[12:53] <Burgundavia> amichai, did you read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[12:54] <amichai> Burgundavia, no
[12:54] <Burgundavia> amichai, good walkthrough
[12:55] <jcurry> i just installed ubuntu on a computer on my network...which is set up to populate the local dns server with hostname set over dhcp...it's dynamic dns...but ubuntu doesn't send the hostname whatever i try...any ideas?
[12:57] <Zerboxx> It's happened again, I can't eject my cd
[12:57] <amichai> Burgundavia, it should work now?
[12:58] <Burgundavia> amichai, if you changed as I said and rebooted, then it should work
[12:58] <danko123456> hi, so how is Linux for digi camera support?
[12:58] <Burgundavia> danko123456, pretty good
[12:58] <danko123456> really?
[12:58] <seeeS> hows UDU going lamont?
[12:58] <Burgundavia> you should just be able to plug it in
[12:58] <Quest-Master> danko123456: Perfect, at least for me ;)
[12:58] <Burgundavia> if you can't it is a bug
[12:59] <danko123456> so I PNP my camera, and maybe it will work?
[12:59] <lamont_r> seeeS: going well, I think
[12:59] <lamont_r> busy, of course.
[12:59] <Burgundavia> DanglyBits, as above
[12:59] <Burgundavia> make taht danko123456
[12:59] <Nostromo^> i have dpms enabled in xorg.conf and gnome keeps disabling it. how do i make gnome simply ignore my dpms settings?
[12:59] <seeeS> lamont_r: oh you're not there ATM?
[12:59] <lamont_r> seeeS: sitting in the front of the main room
[01:00] <seeeS> lamont_r: i was supposed to be there now but got caught up at work
[01:00] <danko123456> wow...well, mine is a pretty new one, so it may not work...lets see now...
[01:00] <jcurry> anyone have any idea about my problem> i have tried adding 'hostname ubuntu' to /etc/network/interfaces, but it didn't help
[01:00] <lamont_r> seeeS: gonna make it sometime today?
[01:00] <arkainium> are long host lookup times because of ipv6?
[01:00] <danko123456> its straight outta Nikon factories:)
[01:00] <Quest-Master> danko123456: New ones have a higher chance of working, since older cameras sometimes need special drivers
[01:00] <danko123456> w
[01:00] <seeeS> lamont_r: well, im not registered or anything
[01:00] <danko123456> wow
[01:01] <danko123456> its all there:)
[01:01] <Quest-Master> danko123456: ;)
[01:01] <danko123456> its almost like it recognizes the USB storage, like windows...
[01:01] <leitao_> please, my nf2 audio is not working. does anyone could me give a help?  is there any pre compiled module?
[01:01] <Burgundavia> leitao_, nforce2 audio?
[01:01] <danko123456> how do you think it has the driver for such a device?
[01:02] <Burgundavia> danko123456, because linux devs are smart and they have cameras as well
[01:02] <leitao_> Burgundavia : yes
[01:02] <danko123456> hehe
[01:02] <Burgundavia> leitao_, should just work
[01:02] <danko123456> no...its cause its technology.
[01:02] <leitao_> no way..
[01:02] <Burgundavia> leitao_, you running hoary?
[01:02] <leitao_> warty
[01:02] <goodtod> is there a network install?
[01:02] <looksaus> is it normal that in cloning mode, glxgears drops from about 600 fps to about 80?
[01:03] <looksaus> I'm trying to watch a DVD on the external screen attached to my notebook
[01:03] <Burgundavia> leitao_, there was some issues with warty that I had. Hoary it just works
[01:03] <Burgundavia> leitao_, I would upgrade as Hoary is now stable
[01:03] <danko123456> ./media/usbdisk/dcim//100nikon
[01:03] <looksaus> but it proves really difficult to get something sensible out of it
[01:03] <danko123456> thats where it has it.
[01:03] <darmou> has anyone here used the zope2.7 package?
[01:03] <danko123456> it is prob that the technology has a standard interface.
[01:03] <leitao_> Burgundavia : how could i upgrade remotely?
[01:03] <SaMRoX> Why since I updated to Hoary my NumKeypad doesn't work??
[01:03] <Burgundavia> leitao_, if you have ssh access yep
[01:04] <ajmitch_> darmou: yes, I have
[01:04] <danko123456> probably not a driver for the specific device...
[01:04] <danko123456> I mean, I could jsut be babbling here, too.
[01:04] <danko123456> :P)
[01:04] <leitao_> Burgundavia : ssh access? where?
[01:04] <darmou> ajmitch_ I'm having problems installing it, it keeps coming up with error return outside function and does not configue properly in hoary
[01:04] <Burgundavia> leitao_, are you sitting at your warty machine right now?
[01:04] <transgress> how hard is it to set up lvm at install time with ubuntu?
[01:05] <ajmitch_> darmou: at what point?
[01:05] <leitao_> Burgundavia : sure
[01:05] <leitao_> :-)
[01:05] <Burgundavia> leitao_, then change your apt sources from warty to hoary and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:05] <darmou> ajmitch_ when it is compiling the zope python scripts on install
[01:05] <leitao_> Burgundavia : easy! i'll do it now! thxs
[01:05] <Burgundavia> leitao_, make certain you instlal ubuntu-desktop at the same time (this was removed in warty if you installed totem-xine)
[01:06] <danko123456> Burgundavia: make sure he cleans out his sources too
[01:06] <leitao_> Burgundavia : ok
[01:06] <danko123456> Cause it will not work prop maybe.
[01:06] <amichai> Burgundavia, thanx man
[01:06] <darmou> SyntaxError: 'return' outside function
[01:06] <Burgundavia> leitao_, can you /query me your sources.list ?
[01:06] <Burgundavia> amichai, np
[01:06] <darmou> is the error
[01:06] <nettolt> irc://irc.freenode.net/#winehq
[01:07] <darmou> not sure if I can get ubuntu to ignore the errors
[01:07] <leitao_> Burgundavia : sure
[01:07] <danko123456> Burgundavia: HE CAn maybe use the ubuntuguide sources.list?
[01:07] <Burgundavia> danko123456, not recommended
[01:07] <danko123456> no, eh?
[01:07] <ajmitch_> darmou: yes, but what file?
[01:08] <danko123456> even the marillat ones can be bad?
[01:08] <Burgundavia> danko123456, too many nerim.net repos. You only need one (testing)
[01:08] <leitao_> Burgundavia : http://rafb.net/paste/results/Eewghw88.html
[01:08] <leitao_> Burgundavia : i ever did the cnahge
[01:08] <danko123456> oh, ok.
[01:08] <darmou> lots of files like this one: /usr/lib/zope2.7/lib/python/Products/PloneSiteMap/skins/PloneSiteMap/getSiteMap.py
[01:08] <Burgundavia> leitao_, remove unstable and stable from the nerim.net repos
[01:08] <Burgundavia> leitao_, you don't need them
[01:08] <danko123456> Burgundavia: I first used the ones with backports and everything the first time I upgraded.
[01:08] <leitao_> Burgundavia : i will. why didnt i need it?
[01:09] <danko123456> not a good thing to do.
[01:09] <danko123456> just for the upgrade, leitao_
[01:09] <leitao_> danko123456 : ok..
[01:09] <Burgundavia> leitao_, testing is the newest distro, so stable and unstable are obsolete
[01:09] <Burgundavia> s/distro/release
[01:09] <danko123456> I think its cause some packages are not to be upgraded...or sthg.
[01:09] <danko123456> or what he said.
[01:10] <danko123456> she?
[01:10] <SaMRoX> Hey, for running anything in fluxbox (or blackbox) I have allways to open a terminal?
[01:10] <danko123456> doubt it
[01:10] <Burgundavia> also, there is no amd64 packages in stable or unstable
[01:10] <danko123456> SaMRoX: yup
[01:10] <Burgundavia> danko123456, he
[01:10] <danko123456> or you can customize the environment.
[01:10] <Quest-Master> SaMRoX: No, just right click on the desktop
[01:10] <danko123456> and its gonna offer him what5?
[01:10] <SaMRoX> danko123456, that suxs :S isnt a way to add icons or something?
[01:10] <ekinox> asd
[01:10] <Burgundavia> danko123456, but my name can be either
[01:10] <danko123456> an xterm...
[01:10] <danko123456> shure
[01:10] <SaMRoX> how?
[01:11] <SaMRoX> I cant find any configuration panel or something :s
[01:11] <danko123456> I think in your synaptic there should be packages;''
[01:11] <amichai> still not working
[01:11] <danko123456> I dont really know how to use it.
[01:11] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I remember having read somewhere on the Ubuntu guide, official or unofficial about the problem with the X in the middle of screen and how to solve it. Now that I am looking for it, I cannot find it. Anyone could please help me? thanks
[01:12] <danko123456> But, if you want a panel, and evetrything, just use gnome.
[01:12] <SaMRoX> Ok, il check synaptic
[01:12] <SaMRoX> Its becouse I have a pretty slow machine :p
[01:12] <danko123456> K_Dallas: is this the small screen size,?
[01:12] <danko123456> Oh, yeah...
[01:12] <leitao_> what is the launch pad?
[01:12] <danko123456> use the term, if you cant find other stuff.
[01:12] <SaMRoX> ok thx
[01:12] <SaMRoX> one more thing..
[01:12] <K_Dallas> danko123456, it is a small cross in the middle of screen when i move a terminal over it it disappears
[01:12] <SaMRoX> Why since I updated to Hoary my NumKeypad doesn't work??
[01:13] <Burgundavia> leitao_, a suite of web apps. bug tracker, etc.
[01:13] <Burgundavia> leitao_, developed by canonical
[01:13] <danko123456> weird, K_Dallas
[01:13] <danko123456> no, havent heard of that myself.
[01:13] <Nostromo^> how do i force gnome not to load xscreensaver?
[01:13] <K_Dallas> well i had the problem in debian and ubuntu but found a solution on ubuntu site now i cannot find it anymore :(
[01:13] <danko123456> launch pad at ubuntulinux.org?
[01:13] <Burgundavia> Nostromo^, turn it off?
[01:13] <Thorrn4> hello!! I have a little bit of a problem, when I tried to listen to stream music from a site, Sirius.com, is says that Mozilla Firefox is missing an extention or file...does any1 kno how 2 fix this?
[01:13] <danko123456> then you are sure to find it again.
[01:13] <^thehatsrule^> check the startup daemons
[01:14] <amichai> Burgundavia, it still doesnt work
[01:14] <Burgundavia> amichai, argh!
[01:14] <K_Dallas> ;) googling for it
[01:14] <Nostromo^> Burgundavia, i can turn it off. im asking where do i tell gnome not to load it in the first place.
[01:14] <leitao_> Burgundavia : is there anything like this today?
[01:14] <amichai> i dont get it, look: direct rendering: No
[01:14] <amichai>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[01:14] <amichai> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:14] <Burgundavia> amichai, can you confirm that you followed all the advice on that wiki page
[01:14] <Burgundavia> Nostromo^, somewhere in the default session. I forget where gnome stores that
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> OMGWTFBBBQ
[01:15] <Burgundavia> leitao_, malone is already tracking universe bugs
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> OMG!!
[01:15] <K_Dallas> i was actually very happy to see ubuntu guys had addressed the issue as i never was able to solve it under debian no matter where i looked or whom i asked
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> -19:01:19-  URL http://www.linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/04/27/1836227.shtml?tid=189&tid=190&tid=106
[01:15] <leitao_> Burgundavia : thx
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> WTF!!!!
[01:15] <amichai> Burgundavia, i did that once and didnt work for me, so i did it through downloading it from ati and it worked the last 5 times
[01:15] <Nostromo^> Burgundavia, alrighty, thanks.
[01:15] <Burgundavia> leitao_, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> GENTOO LINUX GUI INSTALLER?
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> IMPOSSIBLE!!!
[01:15] <danko123456> JaGWiRE```: you ok?
[01:15] <danko123456> haha
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> danko123456: i just had a mini haert attack
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> sorry
[01:15] <leitao_> Burgundavia : ill see
[01:15] <nakata> does it have a phat wing on the back?
[01:15] <Burgundavia> JaGWiRE```, this is #ubuntu, not #gentoo
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> lol
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> they are copying ubuntus installer
[01:15] <K_Dallas> :)
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> hence why I put it here
[01:15] <nakata> and a green glow on the bottom?
[01:15] <JaGWiRE```> look at there link.. it is such a copy =D
[01:16] <danko123456> are you ok, though?
[01:16] <danko123456> whats a link to the picture itself?
[01:16] <danko123456> that page has a dead link/
[01:17] <Wammy> anyone have anything relevant to setting up a linksys wireless card?
[01:18] <Burgundavia> Wammy, different cards have different chipsets. I suggest you google your specific one
[01:18] <danko123456> ./etc/network/interfaces/
[01:18] <danko123456> setting up for what?
[01:18] <Wammy> well in lspci it shows up as an unknown ethernet adapter
[01:18] <Burgundavia> some cards need ndiswrapper, some have native drivers
[01:18] <shale> does anyone know if counter-strike has a linux version?
[01:18] <Burgundavia> shale, no
[01:18] <shale> bummer
[01:19] <Burgundavia> shale, as there is no HL for linux
[01:19] <Burgundavia> apparently cedega does an alright job
[01:19] <dockane> shale, no i do not know and it wouldn't be one worth
[01:19] <shale> what cool games are available for linux?
[01:19] <dockane> ;)
[01:19] <Burgundavia> shale, check out glest
[01:19] <moomin> freeciv
[01:19] <moomin> gltron
[01:19] <JaGWiRE```> Damn.. that links dead now
[01:19] <Burgundavia> shale, or wesnoth
[01:19] <JaGWiRE```> The dude said "Sorry slashdottesr.. I don't wanna test the servers capabilities"
[01:19] <JaGWiRE```> :P
[01:19] <danko123456> tetris?
[01:19] <Burgundavia> shale, glest is warcraft 2, GPL style
[01:19] <amichai> Burgundavia, apt get what? what is the fgrlx i need to apt-get?
[01:19] <danko123456> JaGWiRE```: so....
[01:19] <Burgundavia> make that warcraft 3
[01:19] <leitao_> Burgundavia : launch pad seems something like bug tracking...
[01:19] <danko123456> JaGWiRE```: where is his screenshot?
[01:20] <angryfetus> in ubuntu, how do i get check to see how much RAM i have?
[01:20] <Burgundavia> leitao_, that is one component
[01:20] <shale> are there apt packs of those or do i get 'em manually
[01:20] <Burgundavia> shale, wesnoth and freeciv are in the repos
[01:20] <Burgundavia> shale,  glest has a repo 'deb http://apt.linex.org/ cl juegalinex'
[01:20] <shale> freeciv is cool but i'm looking for stuff that'll run my 3d hardware
[01:20] <Burgundavia> shale, glest is 3d
[01:21] <Freedomzen> shale: ET
[01:21] <shale> i'll check it out
[01:21] <Freedomzen> ?
[01:21] <Burgundavia> shale, also try cube, which is a fps, in the repos
[01:21] <danko123456> JaGWiRE```: is this whole thing about gentoo having a ncurses frontend to the installation, or because it is the same as Ubuntu/Debian one?
[01:21] <shale> ET?
[01:21] <Wammy> how do i find if there is a native driver? or if i need ndiswrapper?
[01:21] <Freedomzen> enemy territory
[01:21] <Burgundavia> shale, enemy territory
[01:21] <josh__> i am having great trouble installing applications
[01:21] <sock> QUESTION:  What do i check the amount of RAM i have?
[01:21] <Burgundavia> Wammy, google your specific card
[01:21] <JaGWiRE```> I was just informed there is vida linux that exists thats gentoo + gui installer too.
[01:21] <masterloki> anyone know if break my ubuntu wiki is up2date
[01:21] <shale> ok thanks i'll check those out - thanks
[01:21] <Burgundavia> josh__, what sort of trouble?
[01:21] <JaGWiRE```> Mm danko.
[01:21] <Burgundavia> masterloki, ubuntu uses apt-get
[01:21] <JaGWiRE```> In the ss's, I saw what looked just like ubuntus.
[01:21] <JaGWiRE```> The same blue screen, etc.
[01:21] <josh__> i tried this ./et-linux-2.55.x86.run but it just says no such file or directory
[01:21] <Wammy> Burgundavia: what info on the card do i need?
[01:22] <Burgundavia> Wammy, the card model
[01:22] <Wammy> ok.
[01:22] <masterloki> i wanna break the repos file
[01:22] <danko123456> sock: go System, Administtration, Device Manager
[01:22] <Burgundavia> Wammy, ie. I have a dlink 650+
[01:22] <danko123456> In there, there will be memory modules...
[01:22] <Burgundavia> masterloki, huh?
[01:22] <Freedomzen> josh__: try chmod a+x ./et-blah.run
[01:22] <danko123456> dont you now how much ram you ahve?
[01:22] <Freedomzen> then try to run it
[01:22] <masterloki> yes install ee mplayer mono etc with apt
[01:22] <blueschoolfox> hahaha
[01:22] <josh__> burg, thx ill try it
[01:22] <Wammy> ok, getting the model #
[01:22] <Burgundavia> masterloki, up2date is for Redhat systems
[01:23] <blueschoolfox> I put geOShell on the computer here at class
[01:23] <masterloki> har just kidding with that
[01:23] <masterloki> i got hoary
[01:23] <Burgundavia> leitao_, fun eh?
[01:23] <sock> danko123456: ty
[01:23] <Burgundavia> leitao_, wait until you track the dev version and there are 3 versions of X in 3 days
[01:23] <leitao_> Burgundavia : humm fun!?
[01:23] <masterloki> and with warty there was a breakmyubuntu wiku
[01:23] <danko123456> sock: yup
[01:23] <josh__> burg, i tried it and nothing happened
[01:23] <masterloki> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu
[01:23] <Burgundavia> masterloki, what specifically are you trying to do?
[01:24] <masterloki> add some more repos to sources.list
[01:24] <Wammy> Burgundavia: ok its the linksys WMP11
[01:24] <Burgundavia> masterloki, to install what?
[01:24] <blueschoolfox> and nvu (we need nvu in ubuntu btw) and gaim and gimp and firefox and thunderbird and ethereal
[01:24] <Burgundavia> Wammy, then google that and see if it needs 'ndiswrapper'
[01:24] <sock> another RAM question:  i just installed a new stick of ram, other than it being bad, could there be any other problems why its not coming up (in both windows and ubuntu)
[01:24] <masterloki> Mplayer ee mono bitchX gxmame
[01:24] <Burgundavia> sock, the bios may not see it
[01:24] <danko123456> non-compatible sticks...
[01:24] <Burgundavia> sock, you have installed it incorrectly
[01:24] <masterloki> among others
[01:25] <sock> no its compatible
[01:25] <sock> and its in correctly
[01:25] <danko123456> some boards work with some ram
[01:25] <sock> im sure of it
[01:25] <sock> hmm
[01:25] <sock> ECC?
[01:25] <Burgundavia> masterloki, mono is in hoary and so it mplayer
[01:25] <danko123456> does it work in windows?
[01:25] <danko123456> I mean...
[01:25] <danko123456> the BIOS would reasd
[01:25] <masterloki> hell i didn't notice
[01:25] <Burgundavia> masterloki, all you need is the standard sources and the marilliat repo
[01:25] <masterloki> Ok
[01:25] <sock> no it doesnt work in windows
[01:25] <masterloki> thanks
[01:25] <danko123456> it before it ever got to a boot loader
[01:25] <sock> i tried it in both slots
[01:25] <blueschoolfox> Burgundavia:  hey what's up?  :p
[01:26] <Burgundavia> masterloki, if you can't find the stuff after you add marilliat, then we can talk
[01:26] <danko123456> does it count it at startup?
[01:26] <Burgundavia> blueschoolfox, not much
[01:26] <danko123456> I mean, it is not working obviously, if you are sure that it is a compatible stick with the one you have there.
[01:26] <sock> yeah its compatible im sure of it
[01:26] <sock> so it must be a bad stick then?
[01:26] <danko123456> I would guess so...
[01:26] <chet_> hello, i am trying to vnc into a ultravnc server, but it says "Server supports RFB protocol version 3.6" and my client is using 3.3?
[01:27] <danko123456> I mean, I am no hardware expert...
[01:27] <danko123456> but everything so far worked...
[01:27] <danko123456> that I bought...
[01:27] <danko123456> ANy device.
[01:27] <danko123456> Or comp part.
[01:27] <shale> westnoth kinda reminds me of king's quest :)
[01:27] <shale> its cute
[01:27] <danko123456> Upgrade client, chet_?
[01:27] <Burgundavia> shale, wesnoth is probably the most active of any game in FLOSS
[01:27] <Burgundavia> shale, in terms of development
[01:28] <chet_> danko123456, i tried a few, but they all seem a bit dated?
[01:28] <shale> FLOSS ?
[01:28] <chet_> this is my second, i used xvncview and xvnc4view
[01:28] <Burgundavia> shale, free/libre open source software
[01:28] <danko123456> I have no knowledge in that area.
[01:28] <danko123456> :)
[01:28] <chet_> me either :(
[01:28] <karl> anyone got an svg plugin to work?
[01:28] <shale> ah
[01:29] <Burgundavia> chet_, http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2005-January/048935.html
[01:29] <chet_> thanks Burgundavia , looking now
[01:29] <blueschoolfox> Burgundavia: http://live.gnome.org/MemoryReduction_2fJohnEduardoEmail
[01:30] <Burgundavia> blueschoolfox, I saw that, but IANAD so I didn't really understand it
[01:30] <blueschoolfox> lol
[01:30] <blueschoolfox> D?
[01:30] <Burgundavia> developer
[01:30] <blueschoolfox> ah
[01:30] <fightingfortofu> anyone familiar with fglrxconfig? there are some options im not sure about
[01:30] <blueschoolfox> :>
[01:30] <chet_> hmm, but the vnc server is ultravnc on windows, so someone thinks MS is being shady?
[01:30] <Burgundavia> chet_, I suspect so
[01:30] <DBill1> Hi - I need to speed up my video card by setting -NoAccel=0" in XFree86Conf but i can't find the file. - I would like to know how to use "find" - can you show me the right syntax?
[01:31] <danko123456> Burgundavia: because linux devs are smart and they have cameras as well
[01:31] <danko123456> gotta love that sentence/
[01:31] <blueschoolfox> we need better wireless support
[01:31] <dockane> DBill1, try "sudo updatedb" and "locate your_file"
[01:31] <Burgundavia> blueschoolfox, talk to the manufacturers
[01:32] <DBill1> dockane - Thank You.
[01:32] <Burgundavia> DBill1, if you are using hoary, you need xorg.conf with is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <blueschoolfox> DBill1:  find / -name myFile\*
[01:32] <fightingfortofu> or maybe some one might know where i could go to find help with fglrxconfig?
[01:32] <danko123456> yeah, my Airport Extreme dont work either...
[01:32] <blueschoolfox> DBill1: but it's xorg.conf :)
[01:32] <danko123456> probably talk to the standards orgs, even
[01:32] <nakata> DBill1: you run xfree86?
[01:32] <nakata> DBill1: are you sure?
[01:32] <nakata> DBill1: iirc, the default X server is xorg
[01:32] <nakata> regardless, i think the syntax for find you want would be something like: find / -name XF86Config
[01:32] <Burgundavia> if you are using warty it is xfree86, which is /etc/X11/Xfree86-4
[01:32] <DBill1> uh oh - okay Ubuntu is different. - grin
[01:32] <Burgundavia> fightingfortofu, what kind of help do you need?
[01:33] <DBill1> Thanks
[01:33] <blueschoolfox> Burgundavia: XF86Config-4
[01:33] <Burgundavia> bluefoxicy, damn confusing file name
[01:33] <blueschoolfox> DBill1:  it's the same as all future distros
[01:33] <DBill1> Good to know
[01:33] <blueschoolfox> xfree is out.
[01:34] <chet_> Burgundavia, do you suspect all windows versions of vnc will do the same, or just ultravnc?
[01:34] <blueschoolfox> xorg is taking over.
[01:34] <tahorg> blueschoolfox: xfree still exists ?
[01:34] <Burgundavia> chet_, I have experience with ultravnc. I would use tight for everything that I woudl do (as it is free in all senses)
[01:34] <DBill1> xorg "Resisitance is futile.." - oops that is the "Borg"
[01:34] <fightingfortofu> burgundavia, im playing with fglrxconfig in hopes to get the tv out resolution lower, and im not sure what option i want, laptop mode, clone, or dual head
[01:34] <blueschoolfox> xfree 4.4 is not compatible with the open source definition.
[01:34] <blueschoolfox> so 4.3 and some CVS was forked.
[01:34] <chet_> Burgundavia,  i will try tightvnc, thanks
[01:35] <fightingfortofu> i want to be like the theater mode in windows, pretty much
[01:35] <fightingfortofu> but right now tv out works but the res is too high so it scrolls
[01:36] <xMaximex> how can I know what is using HD space ?
[01:36] <XtremeJim> dude.. im really a big noob on ubuntu
[01:36] <Burgundavia> xMaximex, what do you mean?
[01:36] <xMaximex> my HD is used at 99% and it's not normal ..
[01:36] <xMaximex> i want to know what is using all this space
[01:37] <|QuaD-> xMaximex: how big of a partition you hav
[01:37] <|QuaD-> e
[01:37] <xMaximex> /dev/hdb1              19G   17G  439M  98% /
[01:37] <blueschoolfox> #ubuntu:  The only child-friendly chat forum where you can discuss mounting.
[01:37] <|QuaD-> where is it mounted to?
[01:37] <|QuaD-> /dev/hda1             110G  102G  2.9G  98% /
[01:37] <Thorrn4> I have a problem with Compiling MPlayer....it said: Error: Bad gcc version
[01:38] <blueschoolfox> Thorrn4:  get a better GCC version.
[01:38] <blueschoolfox> :)
[01:38] <Burgundavia> Thorrn4, why are compiling mplayer>
[01:38] <xMaximex> |QuaD-, what ?
[01:38] <fightingfortofu> Burgundavia, any ideas?
[01:38] <dockane> blueschoolfox, my english is not ver good, what else does mountig mean ?
[01:38] <|QuaD-> xMaximex: where is it mounted to
[01:38] <Thorrn4> how does can I get it?
[01:38] <Burgundavia> fightingfortofu, sorry, never used it that way
[01:38] <fightingfortofu> :( thanks!
[01:38] <xMaximex> |QuaD-, I dont understand
[01:38] <Burgundavia> Thorrn4, apt-get install mplayer-$yourarch
[01:38] <|QuaD-> because you can do "du *mountpoint*" to figure out what is using the space
[01:39] <Thorrn4> what is "$yourarch"?
[01:39] <blueschoolfox> dockane:  Sexual intercourse like two dogs do it.
[01:39] <xMaximex> ok ok
[01:39] <xMaximex> it's mounter on /
[01:39] <|QuaD-> xMaximex: no it isn't
[01:39] <danko123456> dockane: you mount a hard disk onto a directory.
[01:39] <xMaximex> yes it is
[01:39] <danko123456> you mount a cd onto a directory.
[01:39] <|QuaD-> xMaximex: it is your root partition?
[01:39] <xMaximex> |QuaD-, yes
[01:39] <homer`> i need to get rid of some of these cds
[01:39] <eruin> mounting also has something to do with sex
[01:40] <homer`> i got 466 on the mail
[01:40] <eruin> oh, I'm late
[01:40] <eruin> :/
[01:40] <|QuaD-> ok, then try that
[01:40] <blueschoolfox> eruin:  I just said that :)
[01:40] <blueschoolfox> eruin:  in gooey detail
[01:40] <eruin> I'll add "men seldom enjoy being mounted"
[01:40] <blueschoolfox> eruin: touch; mount; gasp; yes; more
[01:40] <danko123456> dude
[01:40] <dockane> bluefoxicy, danko123456, thnx for clarification =)
[01:40] <eruin> hah
[01:41] <Thorrn4> The MPlayer packet was not found:roger@dynamo:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-1.0pre7
[01:41] <Thorrn4> Password:
[01:41] <Thorrn4> Reading package lists... Done
[01:41] <Thorrn4> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:41] <Thorrn4> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-1.0pre7
[01:41] <danko123456> it is like, mounting a thing onto its stand...
[01:41] <Thorrn4> roger@dynamo:~$
[01:41] <blueschoolfox> Thorrn4:  just mplayer
[01:41] <danko123456> Thorrn4: ...
[01:41] <Thorrn4> oh...ok then
[01:41] <eruin> o.O
[01:41] <danko123456> are you apt-getting MPlayer?
[01:41] <danko123456> o_O
[01:41] <blueschoolfox> actually
[01:42] <blueschoolfox> synaptic or dselect are both better than apt-get o.o
[01:42] <blueschoolfox> since you can search!  :)
[01:42] <danko123456> Thorrn4: are you apt-getting MPlayer?
[01:43] <danko123456> apt-cache search Mplayer*
[01:43] <dockane> blueschoolfox, what about "apt-cache search" ?
[01:43] <danko123456> capital P
[01:43] <Thorrn4> Im trying to apt-get it
[01:43] <Thorrn4> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:43] <Thorrn4>   mplayer-386: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: libxvidcore4 (>= 1:1.0.0-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <danko123456> why
[01:43] <Thorrn4>                Depends: xmms (>= 1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not going to be installed
[01:43] <Thorrn4> E: Broken packages
[01:43] <Thorrn4> there is an error
[01:43] <danko123456> why are you apt-getting it?
[01:43] <xMaximex> can i tell du to only show file and dir bigger than *K?
[01:43] <danko123456> is that known to work?
[01:43] <danko123456> Thorrn4: ill give you instructions on installing MPlayer...
[01:43] <blueschoolfox> Thorrn4:  use synaptic, configure your repositories for universe and multiverse
[01:44] <blueschoolfox> Thorrn4:  then try
[01:44] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:44] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[01:44] <Thorrn4> I did the repositories thing and added new ones....I forget who helped me though
[01:44] <danko123456> install the multimedia codecs...
[01:45] <DBill1> Hm - nothing like "NoAccel" in xorg. - glxgears shows my video card can do 190 FPS - do i need another video driver?
[01:45] <danko123456> but, I never got MPlayer to work from apt-get
[01:45] <danko123456> I have a diff method, that worked in Warty, but didnt in Hoary
[01:45] <shale> i'm trying to get glest to run but i get this:
[01:45] <shale> Exception: You system has opengl version '1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)'.
[01:45] <shale> Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work.
[01:45] <shale> You may solve this problem by installing your latest video card drivers
[01:45] <danko123456> You add all the lib-devs, and then you compile the MPlayer from mplayerhq.hu
[01:46] <shale> anyone know where i can get those for a dell d610 w/ ati mobility chipset/
[01:46] <shale> ?
[01:46] <com64> hi have adsl modem connecting with ethernet  but could not configure it in windows is there any1 have experience on that tryed pppoeconfig too and it said check your cables etc. ... loved ubuntu but without connection its bothering me ...
[01:46] <blueschoolfox> shale:  radeon driver.
[01:46] <blueschoolfox> shale:  flglx or something.
[01:47] <shale> knwo where i can get taht?
[01:47] <shale> sheesh, spelling
[01:47] <danko123456> (18:01:52) ***tombs is away: Estou ocupado
[01:47] <spiderworm> shale: where did you get glest for ubuntu?
[01:48] <shale> from its repository
[01:48] <Burgundavia> spiderworm, there is a repo
[01:48] <amichai> ok i have no sound
[01:48] <amichai> can someone help me?
[01:48] <Burgundavia> shale, you want to give it to him, I have lost is past scrollback
[01:48] <transgress> amichai: need more info... such as sound card type and whatnot...
[01:48] <spiderworm> shale: yes please :)
[01:49] <transgress> amichai: and have you tried unmuting it?
[01:49] <shale> roger, hold on
[01:49] <amichai> transgress, i had system sounds, so i turned them off and did killall esd
[01:49] <shale> deb http://apt.linex.org/ cl juegalinex
[01:49] <tombs> danko123456: ??
[01:49] <danko123456> not much
[01:49] <Burgundavia> shale, spiderworm I should be able to get this into breezy
[01:49] <amichai> transgress,sto;; have no sound, switched to alsa, still
[01:49] <amichai> transgress, it worked a minute ago
[01:49] <Burgundavia> amichai, should be esd
[01:50] <danko123456> whats that upgrade page for Hoary
[01:50] <amichai> ok its just xmms that does work
[01:50] <amichai> mplayer works
[01:50] <Wammy> does ubuntu provide ndiswrapper as a .deb package?
[01:51] <shale> what is 'breezy' ?
[01:51] <danko123456> next Ubuntu version
[01:51] <danko123456> warty, hoary, breezy
[01:51] <crimsun> amichai: which plugin is xmms configured to use?
[01:51] <amichai> Burgundavia, i switched back to esd and it froze
[01:51] <danko123456> The BadgerC:)
[01:51] <amichai> crimsun, esd
[01:52] <crimsun> amichai: if esd isn't running, then you can't use the esound plugin for xmms
[01:52] <crimsun> amichai: in that case, you need to use either the alsa or the oss output plugin for xmms
[01:52] <amichai> crimsun, i just switched back to esd
[01:52] <shale> ahhh right breezy bulldog or somethign like that :)
[01:52] <danko123456> amichai: esound ?
[01:52] <tbird> Breezy Badge
[01:52] <danko123456> doesnt work?
[01:52] <tbird> r
[01:52] <crimsun> amichai: if ,,pgrep esd'' returns nothing, then esd isn't running, and you'll need to change the output plugin that xmms uses
[01:53] <danko123456> in options>preferences, amichai
[01:53] <danko123456> audio I/O tab
[01:53] <kbrooks> shebang! does ubuntu still ship cds for ffree
[01:53] <amichai> crimsun, i switched to esd but grep esd showed nothing
[01:53] <danko123456> yeash
[01:53] <XandriX> yup
[01:53] <danko123456> kbrooks: yes
[01:53] <kbrooks> we2by I didn't know ubuntu ship free cd's
[01:53] <crimsun> amichai: you killed it before, remember?
[01:53] <kbrooks> UdontKnow we2by: old news
[01:54] <danko123456> http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/
[01:54] <amichai> crimsun, ok i switched everything to alsa that works
[01:54] <amichai> crimsun, esd doesnt though is that ok?
[01:54] <spiderworm> shale: looks like they dont have it for 64 bit on there.  any ideas how I would get the 32 bit?
[01:54] <amichai> danko123456, thanx
[01:54] <danko123456> amichai: if it works...
[01:55] <shale> spiderworm, of glest?
[01:55] <blueschoolfox> shipit never ships to me
[01:55] <danko123456> thats the one you have, I would guess.
[01:55] <amichai> is esd better though?
[01:55] <blueschoolfox> 0 reliability
[01:55] <danko123456> why not, blueschoolfox?
[01:55] <blueschoolfox> I ordered wart cds and don't have them
[01:55] <spiderworm> shale: yeah
[01:55] <blueschoolfox> so I ordered hoary CDs 7 months later
[01:55] <crimsun> amichai: that's correct. You killed esd before, so esd isn't running, therefore you can't use xmms's esound output.
[01:55] <_adw_> hi, awkward problem here, i use wings3d, and the alt key in combination with left mouse, controls the camera
[01:55] <_adw_> but, alt key in ubuntu moves windows
[01:55] <_adw_> how do i change this?
[01:55] <danko123456> I think its just the one your comp has...amichai
[01:55] <danko123456> _adw_: what?
[01:56] <blueschoolfox> I need to order 1000 CDs
[01:56] <danko123456> alt+which key?
[01:56] <blueschoolfox> for x86
[01:56] <danko123456> yeah, me too.
[01:56] <amichai> crimsun, u agree with danko123456 ?
[01:56] <danko123456> download one, and burn them...
[01:56] <restrex> ffblueschoolfox wft!
[01:56] <danko123456> I have a copy on my windows hard drive
[01:56] <Wammy> anyone that can help me install ndiswrapper?
[01:56] <danko123456> I could mount it I guess...
[01:56] <undre6k> sup all
[01:56] <blueschoolfox> restrex:  for enterprise use
[01:56] <_adw_> danko123456,  sorry, what didnt you get?
[01:56] <shale> spiderworm, just apt-get install glest after putting the repository in your sources.list
[01:56] <blueschoolfox> distributing them to customers :)
[01:56] <danko123456> which key with alt?
[01:57] <shale> but it won't work if you don't have the latest drivers
[01:57] <_adw_> alt+left mousebutton, moves the camera around
[01:57] <shale> need gl 1.3
[01:57] <undre6k> I want gnome2  whats the best way to get it
[01:57] <shale> i just have 1.25 and can't figure out how to upgrade
[01:57] <danko123456> have you tried keyboard shortcuts?
[01:57] <undre6k> synaptic
[01:57] <_adw_> maybe that might help
[01:57] <danko123456> alt+left button does nothing for me though,.
[01:57] <spiderworm> shale: i do have the latest drivers but it wont do it because im running 64 bit, there is no 64 bit package list there...
[01:58] <_adw_> danko123456, on my ubuntu alt-left mouse moves active window around:p
[01:58] <amichai> Burgundavia, does it matter that esd doesnt work, but only alsa?
[01:58] <danko123456> oh, it does, doesnt it....
[01:58] <danko123456> thats a hard one..:)
[01:59] <_adw_> :)
[01:59] <_adw_> ill have a look around
[01:59] <shale> ahhh spiderworm then i don't know how to help ya as i'm 32bit
[01:59] <spiderworm> to install 32 bit .debs on my 64 bit system, how do i do it?  linux 32 dpkg -i <packagename> ?
[02:00] <Burgundavia> spiderworm, I don't think you can do that
[02:00] <Burgundavia> spiderworm, it should build, the source debs are there
[02:00] <Epix> ok, firefox crashes when it loads stuff from media.fastclick.net
[02:00] <Epix> wtf?
[02:01] <danko123456> yeah, wtf?
[02:01] <Epix> why would it crash there?
[02:01] <spiderworm> Burgundavia: do you know of a tutorial to build from source debs?
[02:01] <mikerobi> did anyone have trouble with the thunderbird package? It didn't seem to find my profile but the mozilla distribution works fine.
[02:01] <DBill1> supposedly doesn't need card specific drivers loaded. the FPS numbers aren't encouraging.  What is next?
[02:01] <[Thorrn4] > danko123456, after the installing....mplayer should work now?
[02:01] <danko123456> hehe
[02:02] <danko123456> Not for me, sorry
[02:02] <danko123456> I use xine as of lately...
[02:02] <danko123456> has a nice pause-play feature
[02:02] <danko123456> I used MPlayer in warty...
[02:02] <danko123456> cant get it to run in Hiary
[02:02] <danko123456> maybe someone knows how...
[02:02] <danko123456> _adw_:
[02:02] <danko123456> you there?
[02:02] <DBill1> Is there a command to enable video acceleration in xorg?
[02:03] <Brunellus> ugh.  I should have stayed with warty
[02:03] <_adw_> danko123456, ye
[02:03] <Brunellus> I just did a dist-upgrade to hoary, and now I have no internet access
[02:03] <mikerobi> DBill1: what do you mean?
[02:03] <danko123456> _adw_: you running hoary?
[02:03] <_adw_> danko123456, yep
[02:03] <danko123456> go system, prefs, keyboard
[02:04] <DBill1> Brunellas - What type of card do you have?
[02:04] <danko123456> then layout options tab.
[02:04] <danko123456> then third level choosers.
[02:04] <danko123456> then put a check in the alt you want not to work anymore.
[02:04] <danko123456> atry that.
[02:04] <Brunellus> DBill1:  it's a Linksys WMP11v4
[02:04] <DBill1> Wireless?
[02:04] <Brunellus> my only 'net access is via that wlan adapter
[02:04] <_adw_> oh crap, thanks:D
[02:04] <danko123456> wireless
[02:04] <Brunellus> yeah
[02:04] <Brunellus> previously
[02:05] <Brunellus> I had gotten it running with ndiswrapper
[02:05] <danko123456> _adw_: maybe it is not the fix, though.
[02:05] <danko123456> Could be...
[02:05] <Brunellus> I'd install the appropriate kernel header packages
[02:05] <Brunellus> build ndiswrapper against them
[02:05] <DBill1> I have seen a few questions posted here about Hoary and wireless.
[02:05] <Brunellus> and use ndiswrapper.
[02:06] <Brunellus> I'm *furious*
[02:06] <XandriX> anyone here have a sparcstation ?
[02:06] <DBill1> no doubt.
[02:06] <Brunellus> now what do I do?  I have no 'net access
[02:06] <Wammy> what package do i need to install for the kernel source?
[02:06] <danko123456> like a sparc computer?
[02:06] <Brunellus> I have a very heavy paperweight (it's a five year old desktop)
[02:06] <_adw_> danko123456, well thanks anyways, i can also use middle mouse button for now.
[02:06] <danko123456> is your ISP cable, or DSL?
[02:07] <danko123456> does that work, though?
[02:07] <danko123456> the alt got disabled there,
[02:07] <danko123456> Brunellus: DSL or cable?
[02:07] <Brunellus> danko123456:  it's cable
[02:08] <danko123456> ok...so you know your NIC is not working?
[02:08] <Brunellus> cable modem hooked up to a DLink router/wireless access point
[02:08] <Wammy> Brunellus it seems we are installing the same wireless card/
[02:08] <danko123456> awesome, dudes:)
[02:08] <Brunellus> Wammy:  WMP11v4?
[02:08] <Wammy> yeah
[02:08] <i2oboDude> Anyone running an NForce4 chipset?
[02:08] <Brunellus> misery loves company
[02:08] <DBill1> trailing a CAT5 cable around the house when you are used to wireless is pretty bad.
[02:09] <danko123456> its ok, youll be fine
[02:09] <Brunellus> DBill1:  that's not even an option.  There isn't even a regular old NIC in that box
[02:09] <Wammy> cant figure out which package i need to install for the kernel headers
[02:09] <DanglyBits> how do i add the  Debian Marillat repositories ?
[02:09] <b0urn3> does anyone have the time to help a newcomer to ubuntu/linux in general?
[02:09] <Brunellus> Wammy:  linux-headers*
[02:10] <danko123456> did you guys google that up, or what?
[02:10] <nopea> anybody here try to run Jedit on Unbuntu?
[02:10] <danko123456> DanglyBits: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:10] <Brunellus> See, I've got the headers and everything
[02:11] <Brunellus> I was able to build ndiswrapper, load the .inf files, modprobe
[02:11] <danko123456> Brunellus: , Wammy: did you guys google that card?
[02:11] <Wammy> hmm, its asking to remove 2 packages'
[02:11] <Wammy> danko123456:ya
[02:11] <Brunellus> danko123456:  not in the last few months
[02:11] <undre6k> How do I mount a ntfs partition with read/write permissions?
[02:11] <Brunellus> I'd been running warty.  I got it up and running on warty with no problems using ndiswrapper
[02:11] <danko123456> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2004/12/4/271032
[02:11] <danko123456> sen this one?
[02:12] <Brunellus> undre6k:  writing to ntfs is not safe.  you probably don't want to do that.
[02:12] <Epix> flash crashes mozilla firefox? why? how it be fixed?
[02:12] <mikerobi> Epix: try newer / older version of plugin
[02:12] <mikerobi> Epix: some sites will crash everytime regardless
[02:12] <danko123456> Epix: tried http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla ?
[02:13] <tjs> is there any way to install a .deb from your fs and have it retrieve and install deps?
[02:13] <undre6k> Brunellus: your right I guess read permissions
[02:13] <Brunellus> danko123456:  that thread doesn't help me...I've done it already
[02:14] <Brunellus> what I'm looking to know is *why* something that worked trivially in Warty is broken in Hoary
[02:14] <Brunellus> this is not progress to me.
[02:14] <b0urn3> ok...i'll be slightly more specific...i was wondering if someone could help me (or point me to a good resource) set up filesharing and vnc
[02:14] <augustlilleaas> Cane someone help a complete newbie to linux that just installed ubuntu how to fix a graphics card not being found by ubuntu?
[02:14] <danko123456> Brunellus: haha
[02:15] <danko123456> Brunellus: things dont work...have you tried the ndiswrapper site?
[02:16] <danko123456> there is a driver right here: ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/wmp11_v4_dr.zip
[02:16] <danko123456> And it is said to work with NdisWrapper
[02:17] <Jerub> how do I get ubuntu to run a program as soon as gnome starts?
[02:17] <danko123456> put it in the auto load programs list.
[02:17] <i2oboDude> NForce4 in here anyone? I don't think my system is loading the correct drivers...
[02:17] <undre6k> Im trying to read my mp3s off my ntfs   I've tried      mount -t ntfs  -o rw  /dev/hb1 /mnt/winbox  what am I doing wrong?
[02:17] <scott_> Jerub: System > Session
[02:17] <Huey> is there a way to specify a default size when a program is launched?
[02:17] <Huey> all of my PDFs (opened with evince) always start way too small
[02:18] <danko123456> system, prefs, session
[02:18] <i2oboDude> lsmod : 0000:00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0053 (rev a2)
[02:18] <danko123456> startup programs tab
[02:18] <scott_> Jerub: System > Administration > Sessions > Startup Programs
[02:18] <danko123456> Jerub:  system, prefs, session, startup programs tab
[02:18] <danko123456> how is it in admin?
[02:18] <scott_> nevermind, it's not
[02:18] <danko123456> right.
[02:19] <Jerub> thankyou :)
[02:19] <i2oboDude> Urmm, does this mean that my nforce 4 drivers aren't loaded correctly? 0000:00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0053 (rev a2)
[02:19] <danko123456> yup
[02:19] <i2oboDude> what should I do to fix it?
[02:19] <danko123456> Huey: evince?
[02:20] <danko123456> that a pdf reader?
[02:20] <nopea> Has anybody been able to get an Epson printer working?
[02:20] <i2oboDude> nopea, me
[02:20] <sock> is it normal to have a "software failure" in the middle of an upgrade to hoary????
[02:20] <danko123456> nopea: me 2.
[02:20] <danko123456> sock!!
[02:21] <i2oboDude> nopea, i have a 880
[02:21] <danko123456> did you clean out your sources?
[02:21] <danko123456> i have a cx5400
[02:21] <danko123456> what model, nopea
[02:21] <danko123456> ?
[02:21] <nopea> Its a PM-G800
[02:22] <|QuaD-> what is "launchpad" that is being discussed in udu?
[02:22] <danko123456> 800C?
[02:22] <danko123456> it is a canonical suite of programs...
[02:22] <danko123456> I mean, a site of progs that Canonical uses
[02:22] <danko123456> I think it has that rosetta tool in it.
[02:23] <i2oboDude> to maintaine ubuntu?
[02:23] <nopea> Its a Japanese model.... I dont know the North American model number - it would be an epson stylus photo series that I know
[02:23] <|QuaD-> danko123456: so it doesn't really have any effect on us
[02:23] <danko123456> what effect are you looking for?
[02:23] <danko123456> a color one?
[02:23] <danko123456> nopea: a color one?
[02:23] <|QuaD-> danko123456: i have no idea, is it something they are releasing later.... or just internal
[02:23] <danko123456> he just died?!
[02:23] <danko123456> it is accessible to you and me,..
[02:24] <tsume> what kind of person just says "hello" as a greeting on his answering machine?  I had the same problem, kinda
[02:51] <One> any one know what to do with this file fglrx_4_3_0-8.12.10-1.i386.rpm?
[02:51] <qweqw> mozilla.org/firefox doesn't render correctly on firefox
[02:51] <t3hEthan> Just make sure it's converting to PostScript
[02:51] <danko123456> its a .rpm...
[02:51] <danko123456> what is it?
[02:52] <One> an ati driver
[02:52] <t3hEthan> how bout rpm -i fglrx_4_3_0-8.12.10-1.i386
[02:52] <danko123456> sounds ok,...
[02:52] <nickrud> t3hEthan, danko123456 One , no use alien on it, it'll become a deb you can install
[02:52] <qweqw> for realz
[02:53] <qweqw> don't pollute your system with rpms
[02:53] <wastrel> the new wifi gnome applet is blinky and distracting and i hate it.
[02:53] <wastrel> is there a way to turn off the animation?
[02:53] <One> alien?
[02:53] <qweqw> try ritalin
[02:53] <shale> ridalyn
[02:53] <Zatoichi> anyone else gat parse errors for the live365 feed in streamtuner?
[02:53] <nickrud> yeah, man alien
[02:53] <qweqw> alien converts between package formats
[02:53] <nickrud> rpm only exists on your system so alien can use it :)
[02:53] <qweqw> dunno if it's installed by default
[02:54] <qweqw> yeah
[02:54] <danko123456> hehe
[02:54] <One> ok ill try it
[02:54] <danko123456> qweqw: seriously, the question: (19:35:34) qweqw: 'cause no one will answer this question: have you ever had another person's penis in your ass?
[02:54] <qweqw> i wish the<PHONE_NUMBER>084903880498 linux distros would decide on a standard packaging format
[02:54] <danko123456> I agree, somewhat.
[02:54] <qweqw> what do you find so tantalizing about that quote
[02:54] <t3hEthan> yeah, it's called .tar.gz
[02:55] <nickrud> t3hEthan, this isn't slack :0
[02:55] <qweqw> in that case, i wish they would decide on a standard makefile format
[02:55] <danko123456> I dont know,  I ask myself the same.
[02:55] <wastrel> anyone know how to make the network monitor gnome applet less blinky & distracting?
[02:55] <danko123456> the one on your panel?
[02:56] <qweqw> an interesting, practically ubiquitos reaction to that question.. that's my reason for asking
[02:56] <nickrud> wastrel, yeah, get rid of it and use netspeed
[02:56] <t3hEthan> right click, remove from panel?
[02:56] <danko123456> whats ubiquitos?
[02:56] <t3hEthan> like
[02:56] <transgress> wastrel: remove it.
[02:56] <t3hEthan> it's everywhere
[02:56] <danko123456> heh
[02:56] <danko123456> I dont get how it applies,
[02:57] <danko123456> I just bought a Nikon digi camera
[02:57] <danko123456> it has an underwater mode
[02:57] <qweqw> if i asked if you had ever attempted reproduction with a member of the opposite sex, via genital-to-genital interaction.. well, what do you think about that?
[02:57] <Thorrn4> wow....again XCHAT crapped out on me
[02:57] <danko123456> I would say...
[02:57] <t3hEthan> ziplock bag=underwater mode
[02:57] <danko123456> hehe
[02:57] <danko123456> t3hEthan: lol
[02:58] <gbhat> what is up with hoary updates? x(
[02:58] <danko123456> not like, lol
[02:58] <qweqw> hell fucking yes, the last chick i fucked couldn't walk for a week
[02:58] <danko123456> gbhat: what is up?
[02:58] <Thorrn4> is there a program in linux that could be used to create sounds (music, footsteps, and such)
[02:58] <Thorrn4> ?
[02:58] <danko123456> no, that is not what I would say, personally.
[02:58] <qweqw> i see that everyday
[02:58] <gbhat> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:58] <gbhat>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb
[02:58] <gbhat>  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:58] <qweqw> doesn't matter
[02:58] <gbhat> I have been encountering that package for the last week or so
[02:58] <qweqw> no one is offended by it
[02:59] <danko123456> I would say no again.
[02:59] <t3hEthan> wine /mnt/hda1/usr/local/bin/photoshop/photosho.exe
[02:59] <qweqw> no one feels threatened
[02:59] <wastrel> nickrud:  thx :]
[02:59] <nickrud> gbhat, you need to remove the other packaged referenced by that error, upgrade, and reinstall
[02:59] <nickrud> *package
[02:59] <danko123456> gbhat: you know...are you saying you upgraded from Warty?
[02:59] <gbhat> nickrud, if I try to remove knetworkconf it wants to remove the whole kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Thorrn4> is there a program like that?
[02:59] <qweqw> but if i ask the original question, i am kicked/banned/killed/klined/glined before anyone gets a chance to answer
[02:59] <gbhat> danko123456, no I was using hoary all along
[03:00] <danko123456> oh, ok.
[03:00] <nickrud> gbhat, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it won't remove any real packages
[03:00] <danko123456> try removing the whole thing then...?
[03:00] <nickrud> reading that, it's not clear :)
[03:00] <danko123456> nickrud knows what hes talking about...
[03:00] <danko123456> not sure myself, what you said.
[03:00] <gbhat> nickrud, hmm lemme see. I want the kubuntu desktop cux it works with transparency and shadows the best
[03:00] <nickrud> kubuntu-desktop is a list of packages that make up a desktop
[03:01] <danko123456> you can use it afterwards again...even if you remove it, I think.
[03:01] <qweqw> i want to know why they decided to include so many packages with ubuntu-desktop
[03:01] <Hobocop> FOR HILARITY :):)
[03:01] <danko123456> qweqw: hehe
[03:01] <danko123456> You should start off with a warmup question then
[03:01] <nickrud> kubuntu-desktop is the packages the developers think you need to have a decent desktop
[03:01] <gbhat> Ubuntu is great on polish but needs some work on the hardware front
[03:01] <qweqw> they're deluded
[03:02] <nickrud> s/packages/list of packages/
[03:02] <danko123456> ubuntu ROCKS, dont forget that:)
[03:02] <qweqw> i ran out of ram just from all the inane services that it loads
[03:02] <nickrud> if you remove kubuntu-desktop, it will not remove the packages you already have
[03:02] <gbhat> nickrud, seems like it went ok
[03:03] <danko123456> qweqw: get a better computer.
[03:03] <nickrud> gbhat, now you can reinstall kubuntu-desktop if you like :)
[03:03] <qweqw> i'm comfortable with 2.2ghz
[03:03] <danko123456> yeah, he seems to know what he is talking about.
[03:03] <danko123456> mine is that too.
[03:03] <danko123456> what about the RAM, then?
[03:03] <qweqw> 512
[03:03] <danko123456> so, then, it should be fine...mine is.
[03:03] <nickrud> if the developers add something to their list, you'll get it since you have reinstalled kubuntu-desktop
[03:03] <danko123456> you can always use something else, I guess
[03:04] <qweqw> yeah, i reinstalled as server
[03:04] <gbhat> heh, it isntalled knetworkconf again
[03:04] <nickrud> danko123456, sometimes I do, often I don't :0
[03:04] <danko123456> no, I meant in this story
[03:04] <sock> hmm i upgraded synaptic to hoary and the terminal came up and started doing stuff, but now the screen is blank what do i do???
[03:05] <danko123456> hehe, sock...
[03:05] <qweqw> that makes no sense to me
[03:05] <danko123456> the only screen that is blank is synaptic?
[03:05] <qweqw> RTFM!!!!
[03:05] <ghostfreeman_> How would I suggest an xorg autodetect utility similar to what Knoppix uses for the next release of Ubuntu?
[03:05] <danko123456> dude?
[03:05] <qweqw> go fuck it up until you learn how
[03:05] <sock> no
[03:05] <nickrud> qweqw, excellent advice :)
[03:05] <sock> noo like ubuntu is back
[03:05] <danko123456> everything blank?
[03:05] <sock> black
[03:05] <sock> yes
[03:05] <sock> BLACKNESS EVERYWHERE SCARY
[03:05] <gbhat> sock, have you experienced it before?
[03:05] <danko123456> so different computer?
[03:06] <sock> yes
[03:06] <sock> lol
[03:06] <qweqw> hit alt+ctrl+backspace
[03:06] <danko123456> try alt+ctrl+f1 after that...
[03:06] <qweqw> it should reload the graphical login
[03:06] <danko123456> does it have a cursor blinking top left?
[03:06] <sock> unresponsive
[03:06] <t3hEthan> what's AltCtrlF1
[03:06] <gbhat> sock, while booting pass the parameters pci=noacpi to the kernel
[03:06] <sock> ok it did
[03:06] <sock> its back
[03:06] <danko123456> differebt terminal
[03:06] <qweqw> it switched terminals?
[03:06] <qweqw> what worked
[03:06] <danko123456> yours likely.
[03:06] <danko123456> t3...
[03:07] <danko123456> t3hEthan: try altctrlf1
[03:07] <t3hEthan> heh
[03:07] <t3hEthan> cool
[03:07] <sock> im back to the login menu now
[03:07] <Janux> Hi, anyone knows that there is a music player like XMMS but it supports UTF-8?
[03:07] <danko123456> alt+ctrl+f7 gets you back.
[03:07] <sock> should i just login normally and complete the upgrade?
[03:07] <qweqw> where did it blank, sock ?
[03:07] <danko123456> it could go blank simply because of the reloading of the x system
[03:08] <sock> i went into synaptic to upgrade to hoary, and then a terminal window came up and started running stuff.. and then it was blank for a while and stayed blank while i ate dinner
[03:08] <sock> altctrlf1 brought me to login screen
[03:08] <qweqw> synaptic is just a front-end to apt-get, which is a front-end for apt?
[03:08] <danko123456> f1 is the login screen...
[03:08] <danko123456> that wont get you to gnome
[03:08] <ghostfreeman_> How do I suggest new programs and utilities?
[03:08] <danko123456> apt-get is apt
[03:08] <qweqw> might want to do it via a plain ol' terminal
[03:08] <danko123456> alt+ctrl+f7 is the graphical terminal
[03:09] <qweqw> apt-get is a front-end on debian
[03:09] <danko123456> ghostfreeman_: what?
[03:09] <danko123456> is that your only poost?
[03:09] <danko123456> (20:08:59) ghostfreeman_: How do I suggest new programs and utilities?
[03:09] <qweqw> sock, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <danko123456> sock: try alt+ctrl+f7
[03:09] <Janux> Hi, anyone knows that there is a music player like XMMS but it supports UTF-8?
[03:09] <tm17h> I'm trying to get a modem working with ubuntu -- this is a winmodem, which seems to work with modprobe lt etc., but I can't seem to get it to hook up.  Is there a simple way I can get to typing basic commands to the modem and seeing what happens (e.g. atdt + phone-number)?
[03:10] <ghostfreeman_> as in ones that could be considered for next release, to be added to Synaptic, etc...
[03:10] <danko123456> what is UTF-8 support?
[03:10] <danko123456> oh, ok...
[03:10] <transgress> it is a winmodem tm17h?  ima stick with this for help... "pray"
[03:10] <Hobocop> unicode 8)
[03:10] <odyssey> why would something thats in main depend on something that is in the universe?
[03:10] <nickrud> ghostfreeman_, what's the program, odds are it already is :)
[03:10] <transgress> odyssey: because they know we all use universe heh
[03:11] <danko123456> ghostfreeman_: there is a #ubuntu-developers, not called that sorry
[03:11] <ghostfreeman_> A GUI utility for setting up xorg
[03:11] <tm17h> transgress: Yep I know -- I'm installing ubuntu tomorrow on an old PC for a friend's father. If I can get this modem to work, I'd like to give them a modem.
[03:11] <qweqw> you mean like Xorgcfg ? ;)
[03:11] <tm17h> transgress: The proper linmodem modules seem to be included in ubuntu's restricted modules and insert without making a fuss.
[03:11] <nickrud> #ubuntu-devel
[03:11] <danko123456> there aws someone here that asked the same question a minute ago...
[03:11] <Janux> Hobocop, hi, do you know?
[03:12] <qweqw> people still have dial up?
[03:12] <qweqw> sad
[03:12] <danko123456> Janux: what kinda support is that?
[03:12] <danko123456> not sad...
[03:12] <ghostfreeman_> I was thinking along the lines of a utility similar to the one used in Knoppix
[03:12] <qweqw> i weep for all those who are forever in the internet's past
[03:12] <danko123456> As Tanenbaum said, never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes hurling down the highway.
[03:13] <nickrud> qweqw, that's probably 3/4 of the world
[03:13] <Hobocop> what am I supposed to know now
[03:13] <danko123456> Janux's UTF-8 support in a media player
[03:13] <Janux> danko123456, because I am chinese and I listen some chinese song, I wish to see what kind of song they are in the playlist.
[03:13] <Hobocop> eh I dont know
[03:13] <danko123456> ooohhh.
[03:13] <qweqw> 60% of americans have broadband. everywhere else is a barren, practically lifeless wasteland.. but i'm sure you knew that
[03:13] <danko123456> Janux: fancy
[03:14] <Hobocop> lmao
[03:14] <Janux> danko123456, all music players don't show the characters...
[03:14] <transgress> anyone know a way to setup LVM with a fresh ubuntu install?  is there an option for that by chance?
[03:14] <tm17h> qweqw: Well -- this would be for someone who's never used the internet before. Hard to convince him to spend ~$50/month (broadband costs here) until he knows what he's getting!
[03:14] <danko123456> qweqw: you have to be american to say that.
[03:14] <danko123456> Janux: maybe you need OS support then
[03:14] <danko123456> I am not sure, sorry
[03:14] <nickrud> Janux, try apt-cache search language pack, and pick one
[03:14] <Janux> qweqw, I am not sure about american, I know that Canada sucks so badly even ppl use broadband here(rogers/Bell)
[03:14] <Janux> nickrud, language pack for xmms?
[03:15] <qweqw> there's a reason 400billion dollars of our tax dollars are spent on increasing are already huge stockpile of lethal machinery
[03:15] <qweqw> we hate you
[03:15] <danko123456> Janux: Canada what?
[03:15] <qweqw> true, tm17h
[03:15] <nickrud> Janux, if xmms has internationalization support, that's probably where it's at
[03:15] <transgress> real help question following:  anyone know about setting up LVM on ubuntu
[03:15] <sock> where do i look to see my ubuntu version to see if the upgrade worked?
[03:15] <danko123456> yeah, its the same reason half the country is below the poverty line
[03:15] <danko123456> it looks different
[03:15] <danko123456> sock
[03:15] <qweqw> once they get used to the speed, and think that's the entirety of the internet experience.. then switch to broadband
[03:15] <danko123456> the whole GUI looks different
[03:16] <danko123456> it has different menus on the top
[03:16] <Janux> danko123456, Canada's broadband sucks.  Let's say mine is 1.5Mbps for $40 CDN/month, in Hong Kong, the cheapest one is around $100(< $20 CDN) for 3Mbps DSL
[03:16] <danko123456> yeah,. hwere do you live?
[03:16] <Janux> nickrud, so you mean xmms supports it? because I couldn't find any information on their web site.
[03:16] <Janux> danko123456, I am living in Toronto now
[03:16] <danko123456> and Shaw, I guess?
[03:16] <sock> damnit, it looks exactly the same to me
[03:16] <sock> i followed the exact directions to upgrade as on the website
[03:16] <danko123456> mine is over 3Mps
[03:17] <Janux> danko123456, Shaw moved to US, and Rogers moved to Canada, that's what I heard.
[03:17] <Janux> danko123456, yeah but how much?
[03:17] <nickrud> Janux, maybe you should try a different player, maybe muine or the Media Player (rhytmbox)
[03:17] <danko123456> do you have applications, places, and system, sock?
[03:17] <tm17h> So... maybe I'll go digging for an old non-winmodem modem -- I believe they're all old modems for macs, likely not to have the standard x86 serial connectors... does anyone here use ubuntu with a modem? Can it properly handle e.g. offering to dial-up when you open a webbrowser?
[03:17] <Janux> nickrud, ic ic...thanks....muine?
[03:17] <danko123456> no, I think you will go through the OS, tm17h
[03:17] <qweqw> i don't remember that type of functionality, tm17h
[03:17] <nickrud> Janux, yeah, I installed it last night. Very pretty, needs work, but it's gnome, which has good internationalization
[03:18] <Janux> nickrud,  alright, let me try, thanks...
[03:18] <Janux> nickrud, what about rhytmbox?
[03:18] <danko123456> shall we let him try?
[03:18] <sock> danko123456: it says just applicatiosn and computer... like before
[03:18] <[Thorrn4] > firefox just crashed on me!! How can I prevent it happening again?!
[03:18] <tjs> we have downloaded the hoary iso at work and are trying to install it on a machine, the install bootloader hangs before we can even type at the prompt
[03:18] <danko123456> then, no, that is not it.
[03:18] <qweqw> do you know what caused it to crash
[03:18] <nickrud> Janux, Applications->multimedia->media player
[03:19] <tjs> anyone else seen this behaviour?
[03:19] <danko123456> no
[03:19] <qweqw> can you make it crash again?
[03:19] <qweqw> if so, send a bug report in describing how you did it
[03:19] <Janux> nickrud, is it MPlayer or Music Player? my ubuntu doesn't come with Media Player
[03:19] <danko123456> for firefox?
[03:19] <[Thorrn4] > it does not give me an error...it just closed all windows
[03:19] <[Thorrn4] > all
[03:19] <danko123456> there is a #firefox
[03:19] <qweqw> what preceded that, though
[03:19] <nickrud> Janux, are you ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:19] <[Thorrn4] > ok thanx
[03:20] <Janux> ubuntu
[03:20] <sock> hmm i only upgraded the packages.... IM A MORON, ok ill be back
[03:20] <tm17h> danko123456: Okay -- this may be a bad plan. I thought the GNOME modem applet would be the way to go, but opening it just gives me a warning ("Interface does not exist" -- no further guidance or opportunity to point it to the right interface).
[03:20] <danko123456> not on freenode though, [Thorrn4]
[03:20] <qweqw> if you can't make it crash again, then don't bother with the bug report
[03:20] <nickrud> Janux, sorry, music player
[03:20] <danko123456> not sure how that works, tm
[03:20] <[Thorrn4] > where can I find it?
[03:20] <Janux> nickrud, I tried music player but it doesn't show the characters, do I need to download extra package for that? and I am downloading muine now
[03:21] <Wammy> can someone help me? i got the wireless card installed, now im having issues with getting it to join my network.
[03:21] <qweqw> download all the rhythmbox plugins
[03:21] <qweqw> works fine for me
[03:21] <nickrud> Janux, chinese?
[03:21] <qweqw> can you ping it, Wammy
[03:21] <Wammy> how?
[03:21] <qweqw> have you assigned an address to it?
[03:21] <qweqw> do you know the device name?
[03:22] <Janux> nickrud, yes
[03:22] <Wammy> device name? wlan0 ?
[03:22] <qweqw> sounds right
[03:22] <nickrud> Janux, give me a sec
[03:22] <Brunellus> hello again ubuntans
[03:22] <Brunellus> hey Wammy, did you get it running yet?
[03:22] <Wammy> yeah
[03:22] <qweqw> are you using internal ip addresses?
[03:22] <Wammy> yeah
[03:22] <Wammy> 192.168.1.*
[03:23] <Brunellus> you got it running?  wooohooo
[03:23] <Wammy> yeah, but i cant get it to join my network
[03:23] <t3hEthan> ifconfig ethx up?
[03:23] <qweqw> sudo ifconfig wlan0 192.168,1.X
[03:23] <qweqw> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:23] <Wammy> yeah did that
[03:23] <qweqw> ping the address you assigned to it, then
[03:23] <Wammy> from the computer i cant ping the router
[03:24] <nickrud> Janux, try installing language-pack-zh
[03:24] <nickrud> Janux, that's the chinese language pack
[03:24] <Brunellus> Wammy, how'd you get it up?
[03:24] <Brunellus> er
[03:24] <qweqw> did you set up a default route?
[03:24] <Wammy> nor can i ping it from here
[03:24] <Wammy> er...no
[03:24] <Wammy> lol
[03:24] <Brunellus> get the wlan card running
[03:24] <Wammy> Brunellus ndiswrapper
[03:24] <Janux> nickrud, for muine? or music player?
[03:24] <nickrud> Janux, but since I don't read chinese, you be the judge :)
[03:24] <qweqw> sudo route add default gw routerip
[03:24] <Wammy> whats the command?
[03:24] <danko123456> (20:24:32) Brunellus: Wammy, how'd you get it up?
[03:24] <danko123456> its a secret...
[03:24] <danko123456> never teach the Wu-Tang.
[03:24] <nickrud> Janux, the way I understand it, that loads language support for rhythmbox, since it's part of main
[03:25] <Janux> nickrud, I will tell you if it works or not...hehe...thanks a lot.
[03:25] <Wammy> qweqw:im u sing WEP 128bit
[03:25] <Wammy> i set it up with iwconfig wlan0 key restricted <key>
[03:25] <Brunellus> danko123456:  we'll be headed straight for mortal kombat if you keep up like that, man...
[03:25] <Brunellus> :p
[03:25] <Wammy> tho my router has the key set as 'shared'
[03:25] <Janux> nickrud, I don't understand, main means my ubuntu main?
[03:25] <knoppix> can someone help me with my network card problem?
[03:26] <qweqw> hmm, i'm lost
[03:26] <t3hEthan> Whass yo network card problem
[03:26] <danko123456> lol
[03:26] <qweqw> can't imagine how to fix anything without being there
[03:26] <knoppix> ubuntu won't "turn on" my cards
[03:26] <danko123456> which ones?
[03:26] <t3hEthan> ethernet or wlan
[03:26] <nickrud> Janux, yes. main is what is supported completely by ubuntu: security and the like
[03:26] <knoppix> i tried two different ones it recognizes them but won't enable them
[03:27] <knoppix> ethernet
[03:27] <qweqw> what does that mean, knoppix
[03:27] <t3hEthan> so wired.
[03:27] <qweqw> does it show up in dmesg
[03:27] <Janux> nickrud, ic ic.....I thought that when I installed the input method, it already includes that...thanks a lot
[03:27] <knoppix> i'm fairly new
[03:27] <qweqw> dmesg|grep eth
[03:27] <danko123456> why is my xmms not working all the sudden?
[03:27] <mario> I remember a article of how install Ubuntu on machines with 32mb ram, any have the URL? plizzzz
[03:27] <knoppix> it shows up in the control center but won't allow me to enable it\
[03:27] <nickrud> Janux, is it good (so I can tell someone it's been tested :)
[03:27] <qweqw> wtf is the control center
[03:27] <palindrome> t
[03:28] <t3hEthan> su; ifconfig eth0 your.ip.address.here; ifconfig eth0 up
[03:28] <danko123456> mario: search the wiki
[03:28] <qweqw> mario, just type "server" instead of hitting enter for default tons-of-shit-you'll-never-use-mode
[03:28] <mario> thanks
[03:29] <Determinist> how can i make the updates thing stop nagging about updates available? i have no wish to install openoffice and yet it wont leave me alone lol
[03:29] <hybrid> hello all
[03:29] <qweqw> it's very minimal, but if you've got dhcp or ppp, you can access the repositories to build the system like you want
[03:29] <NetwrkMonkey> why would the system clock gain time after upgrading to 5.04?
[03:29] <nickrud> mario, is this the link? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2376.html
[03:29] <qweqw> time skews, perhaps
[03:29] <qweqw> how much time?
[03:29] <NetwrkMonkey> it's doing this at a rate of 1-2 minutes per every 5-8 hours
[03:29] <NetwrkMonkey> i know it's not the battery
[03:29] <qweqw> might be a hardware problem
[03:29] <Brunellus> here's the deal:  I have the kernel-headers.  I have ndiswrapper source
[03:30] <Eighth> having some trouble with my fresh install of 5.04... when i try to boot, grub hangs saying "error 15" (file not found)
[03:30] <NetwrkMonkey> don't think it's hardware
[03:30] <Brunellus> I built ndiswrapper gainst the kernel headers
[03:30] <NetwrkMonkey> didn't happen with 4.10
[03:30] <NetwrkMonkey> at all
[03:30] <Brunellus> Eighth:  corrupted CD?
[03:30] <NetwrkMonkey> it has to do with the kernel i think
[03:30] <Eighth> Brunellus: possible.. i booted into a knoppix livecd and am looking at the / partition
[03:30] <Eighth> there's no /boot!
[03:31] <qweqw> might be a messed up define somewhere
[03:31] <Janux> nickrud, come back and tell you later, dinner time now
[03:31] <Brunellus> anyhow, I built ndiswrapper--no errors.  loaded up the .inf files--no errors
[03:31] <qweqw> doesn't do it to me, though
[03:31] <Brunellus> modprobe ndiswrapper, no errors
[03:31] <Brunellus> and yet there is no wlan0
[03:31] <nickrud> Janux, cool, just remember the answer for the next guy
[03:31] <bhearsum> is there somewhere where i can view all of the packages in the official ubuntu mirrors?
[03:31] <Brunellus> and the stupid new gnome network-admin gui refuses to let me do antyhing.
[03:31] <qweqw> i'd reinstall, in case anything was corrupted
[03:31] <danko123456> bhearsum: in your synaptic
[03:31] <qweqw> assuming you have nothing to lose
[03:31] <bhearsum> danko123456: i don't have it installed.
[03:32] <gbhat> is there an update to FIrefox 1.0.3 in Hoary?
[03:32] <bhearsum> danko123456: i'm not wiping my system until i know my required software is available ;)
[03:32] <bhearsum> i guess i should be more specifi c-- i'm looking for something on th eweb
[03:32] <danko123456> why is my music not playing, it was playing today?
[03:32] <bhearsum> maybe like packages.debian.org
[03:32] <jeff_> how can i get an mpeg playing app in ubuntu? totem wont work
[03:32] <gbhat> jeff_, get mplayer
[03:32] <nickrud> bhearsum, not very easy to traverse, but this is the actual packages http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[03:32] <qweqw> how about xine or vlc
[03:33] <gbhat> vlc is very good too
[03:33] <qweqw> vlc works fine for me, most of the time
[03:33] <gbhat> is there an update to FIrefox 1.0.3 in Hoary?
[03:33] <bhearsum> nickrud: thats great, thanks man.
[03:33] <bhearsum> nickrud: is that for hoary?
[03:33] <qweqw> it can read the .wmv container and play it without a problem
[03:33] <danko123456> jeff_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui
[03:33] <nickrud> bhearsum, that's everything, warty, hoary and breezy
[03:33] <Brunellus> ugh.
[03:33] <bhearsum> nickrud: ahh.
[03:33] <danko123456> that should give you a nice start...
[03:33] <jeff_> thanks
[03:33] <bhearsum> nickrud: is hoary 'main' ?
[03:34] <danko123456> yeah, its the main///
[03:34] <danko123456> jj
[03:34] <bhearsum> great
[03:34] <danko123456> w
[03:34] <danko123456> no, jj, bhearsum
[03:34] <bhearsum> ,dayZ
[03:34] <bhearsum> what?
[03:34] <danko123456> its like...main the repository?
[03:34] <bhearsum> i have no idea what you're talking about danko123456
[03:34] <nickrud> gbhat, not yet, the only security update I know of not backported to 1.0.2 is one that creates a file in your home directory
[03:34] <danko123456> main is the main packages.
[03:34] <jeff_> i can't seem to apt-get xine or mplayer
[03:34] <bhearsum> ok?
[03:35] <vomitron> say, i just installed ubuntu 5.04 and it never asked me for a root password
[03:35] <danko123456> follow the steps
[03:35] <qweqw> try xine-ui
[03:35] <danko123456> need extra reps...
[03:35] <jordanau> anyone know how to reduce screen resolution in fluxbox
[03:35] <gbhat> nickrud, why backport?
[03:35] <bhearsum> so all of those repositories are available to hoary?
[03:35] <danko123456> and multmedia codecs
[03:35] <qweqw> mplayer is not included in the repositories
[03:35] <danko123456> sure it is...
[03:35] <gbhat> i think vlc is
[03:35] <nickrud> bhearsum, hoary has main, (security supported) multiverse, and universe
[03:35] <danko123456> I dont think it works though.
[03:35] <mario> In a p166/32mb run fvwm "smooth"? && What word processor is good for this machine? (I have a reulitization mission)
[03:35] <bhearsum> nickrud: great, thanks
[03:35] <qweqw> vlc seems to play more formats, out of the box
[03:35] <gbhat> mario, tried Abiword?
[03:35] <danko123456> yeah, that one is pretty quick
[03:36] <Brunellus> mario:  you might even want to consider damnsmalllinux instead of ubuntu
[03:36] <danko123456> the abiword
[03:36] <nickrud> gbhat, because the debian philosophy is once a stable release is made, bugs are permanent, unless it's security
[03:36] <mario> gbhat, I'm recolecting information
[03:36] <qweqw> mario, you might want to install an even lighter WM
[03:36] <vomitron> how do i set my root password? ubuntu didn't give me an option to do it during setup
[03:36] <bhearsum> DSL probably isn't necessary
[03:36] <Chipzz> Brunellus: why do you think damnsmalllinux would perform better?
[03:36] <mario> like blackbox?
[03:36] <danko123456> jeff_: did you get it going?
[03:36] <bhearsum> you just need something that can be toned down more.
[03:36] <qweqw> fluxbox, ion3
[03:36] <qweqw> either one
[03:36] <Chipzz> Brunellus: damnsmalllinux refers to the size *on-disk*, NOT *in-memory*
[03:36] <Shachaf> vomitron: You should use sudo.
[03:36] <nickrud> vomitron, ubuntu strongly suggests you use sudo
[03:36] <qweqw> fluxbox tends to be more appealing
[03:36] <Brunellus> Chipzz:  fair enough
[03:37] <t3hEthan> sudo = pain in ass
[03:37] <t3hEthan> o
[03:37] <t3hEthan> do*
[03:37] <qweqw> sudo bash
[03:37] <danko123456> the root is disabled
[03:37] <t3hEthan> sudo passwd root
[03:37] <jeff_> danko123456, not yet
[03:37] <qweqw> free root shell
[03:37] <Brunellus> however, damnsmalllinux -toram is nice
[03:37] <Eighth> Brunellus, my cd and the iso md5s are the same... so it's not a bad disc
[03:37] <Chipzz> it is not optimized for size or something like that
[03:37] <bhearsum> nickrud: this channel hurts my head, do you mind if a /msg you if i have more questions?
[03:37] <Brunellus> Eighth: weird.
[03:37] <t3hEthan> nono, you can login as root
[03:37] <Shachaf> vomitron: If you want a root shell, use ``sudo su -''.
[03:37] <danko123456> jeff_: follow all the steps ,and in a few you should be watching the mpeg
[03:37] <vomitron> hmm, not sure i like the sound of this..
[03:37] <Eighth> Brunellus, yeah... why would it not make /boot?
[03:37] <t3hEthan> just login as $you into failsafe terminal
[03:37] <t3hEthan> then
[03:37] <t3hEthan> sudo passwd root
[03:37] <t3hEthan> (enter pass)
[03:37] <t3hEthan> su
[03:37] <t3hEthan> pass
[03:37] <qweqw> fuck all that
[03:37] <qweqw> sudo bash
[03:37] <Shachaf> t3hEthan: That's a bad idea.
[03:37] <qweqw> simple
[03:38] <Shachaf> qweqw: It would be better to ``sudo su -''.
[03:38] <t3hEthan> rm /tmp/var/.X0-lock
[03:38] <t3hEthan> startx
[03:38] <danko123456> or, there is a root terminal launcher in apps.
[03:38] <jeff_> danko123456, i did, i think
[03:38] <qweqw> go ahead and cite why that is then, Shachaf
[03:38] <Shachaf> qweqw: It handles the PATH and such, for one.
[03:38] <vomitron> and also, how do i get rid of this annoying gdm?
[03:38] <danko123456> awesome, any good movies on 2nite?
[03:38] <qweqw> ???
[03:38] <danko123456> jeff_:
[03:38] <qweqw> loads my PATH fine
[03:38] <Shachaf> vomitron: What do you want to use instead?
[03:39] <nickrud> vomitron,  apt-get remove gdm
[03:39] <vomitron> i'd prefer it to just boot to a login prompt
[03:39] <jeff_> danko123456, i think i might have gotten it. i added universe to apt
[03:39] <Shachaf> qweqw: Including /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc.?
[03:39] <danko123456> thats it so far?
[03:39] <danko123456> :)
[03:39] <qweqw> that is the path that was installed by default
[03:39] <jeff_> it found xine-ui but not mplayer
[03:39] <Shachaf> vomitron: Set the default runlevel to 3.
[03:39] <Shachaf> vomitron: /etc/inittab
[03:39] <Eighth> Brunellus, i don't need to specify a /boot partition, right? it should be included in /
[03:40] <danko123456> xine works better I think
[03:40] <danko123456> I mean, if I got MPlayer to work, Id prefer that..
[03:40] <qweqw> reinstall ubuntu, choose server instead of hitting enter
[03:40] <danko123456> but, it just dont work, and xine does.
[03:40] <qweqw> no annoying pointless graphical login screens
[03:40] <danko123456> yeah?
[03:40] <qweqw> no packages that you don't need
[03:40] <t3hEthan> no graphical anything, right?
[03:40] <Fufachew> does the unbuntu 5.04 live CD also function as an install CD?
[03:41] <qweqw> nothing
[03:41] <t3hEthan> no
[03:41] <danko123456> You can install it I think...
[03:41] <t3hEthan> no, it doesn't fufa
[03:41] <qweqw> basic system tools, that's it
[03:41] <danko123456> isnt there a way?
[03:41] <Shachaf> qweqw: Are you talking to vomitron?
[03:41] <qweqw> i guess
[03:41] <qweqw> i dunno
[03:41] <jiyuu0> guys... i'm making this Unofficial UbuntuGuide 5.04 Add-On CD Guide
[03:41] <jiyuu0> any inputs?
[03:41] <jiyuu0> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30147
[03:42] <Shachaf> jiyuu0: Drop one of the "guide"s.
[03:42] <qweqw> ubuntu should come with porn
[03:42] <qweqw> no doubt about it
[03:42] <t3hEthan> apt-get install porno
[03:42] <qweqw> pornix
[03:42] <Eighth> imagine the XEyes applet :)
[03:42] <jiyuu0> Shachaf, i think it sounds weird too
[03:43] <qweqw> E: Couldn't find package porn
[03:43] <danko123456> haha
[03:43] <qweqw> LIAR
[03:43] <t3hEthan> # apt-get install hustler-greatest-hits
[03:43] <t3hEthan> Reading package lists... Done
[03:43] <t3hEthan> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:43] <t3hEthan> E: Couldn't find package hustler-greatest-hits
[03:43] <qweqw> oh wait
[03:43] <danko123456> Eighth: the xeyes looking at your porn?
[03:43] <qweqw> forgot an o
[03:43] <danko123456> right
[03:43] <t3hEthan> brb
[03:43] <danko123456> porno, the porno
[03:43] <danko123456> jiyuu0: sweet
[03:44] <qweqw> if it it's not hot man-woman-dog-pig sex, i don't want to see it
[03:44] <danko123456> you making a with cd kinda manual?
[03:44] <jiyuu0> yub
[03:44] <qweqw> on top of that, there better be some japanese bitches vomitting on eachother
[03:44] <jiyuu0> a cd with all the packages and a manual
[03:44] <sock> everytime i try to use apt-get, it gives me the "dpkg interrupted" crap.... whatdo i do now?
[03:44] <danko123456> We love your ubuntuguide:)
[03:44] <jiyuu0> thanks :)
[03:44] <qweqw> quit hitting ctrl+c
[03:44] <danko123456> no, thank you!
[03:44] <danko123456> dude
[03:44] <jiyuu0> :)
[03:45] <danko123456> 20:44:47) qweqw: on top of that, there better be some japanese bitches vomitting on eachother
[03:45] <qweqw> that's kind of vague, sock
[03:45] <nickrud> for the deprave among you, i offer pornview - Image and movie viewer/manager
[03:45] <danko123456> really, nickrud? lets all go get it.
[03:45] <nickrud> danko123456, I have more immediate needs than porn :)
[03:45] <danko123456> hehe
[03:46] <danko123456> there raelly is a program called that.
[03:46] <nickrud> danko123456, aptj-get it
[03:46] <danko123456> I did
[03:46] <danko123456> ")
[03:46] <qweqw> vomitting on eachother, in a bath tub.. then they scoop some of the floating bits of an unidentifiable fish.. which they eat
[03:46] <danko123456> is it bad if it is run as root?
[03:46] <danko123456> jj
[03:47] <qweqw> if you haven't seen that video on the internet, you have not experienced the true power of expression that the internet offers
[03:47] <qweqw> damn redundant
[03:47] <qweqw> damnit
[03:48] <qweqw> also, the one where the dude is laying on his stomach, and a woman with high-heels is stomping on his balls
[03:48] <danko123456> hey, why is my sound not working?
[03:48] <danko123456> ahhhh
[03:48] <qweqw> setmixer -V
[03:48] <danko123456> that hurts all the way here
[03:48] <qweqw> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:48] <nickrud> qweqw, your first friend with soud problems is alsamixer
[03:48] <qweqw> what's that
[03:49] <qweqw> ahh
[03:49] <nickrud> it's the lowest level sound control availble to you
[03:49] <danko123456> it is playing, and it worked earlier
[03:49] <qweqw> i doubt it
[03:49] <danko123456> it is not mutwed
[03:49] <nickrud> danko123456, do lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[03:49] <Nula> why isn't asound.conf the standard way of mixing audio in linux?? this thing is incredible.. not sync/lag problems like ESD and aRTS
[03:50] <qweqw> wtf is this confusing graphical bullshit
[03:50] <nickrud> if esd is bound, it's probably muted somewhere :)
[03:50] <qweqw> give me numbers, damnit
[03:50] <qweqw> ASCII text
[03:50] <danko123456> yeah, somewhere
[03:51] <nickrud> danko123456, there are several volume controls: master, pcm, and others that can cause problems
[03:51] <danko123456> esd        7910   dbernar1    5w      CHR       14,3                7436 /dev/dsp
[03:51] <danko123456> i dont know, I didnt turn off anything that I remember
[03:51] <danko123456> im checking the wiring
[03:51] <nickrud> danko123456, :)
[03:51] <qweqw> just make sure pcm is at 50 or so, and volume the same
[03:52] <danko123456> are those ok?
[03:52] <danko123456> the stats there?
[03:52] <qweqw> what
[03:52] <danko123456> esd        7910   dbernar1    5w      CHR       14,3                7436 /dev/dsp
[03:52] <nickrud> I use 90, but 50 is good if you use a manual volume controle
[03:53] <danko123456> oh, well, what the heck, ill just reboot my comp...
[03:53] <danko123456> :)
[03:53] <revelater> hey all, xine just crashed on me, i hit ctrl + alt + F1, how do i get back?
[03:53] <nickrud> revelater, alt-ctl-f7
[03:53] <revelater> k thanks
[03:53] <qweqw> same thing, f7
[03:53] <danko123456> nothing
[03:53] <qweqw> ctrl+alt+f7
[03:53] <Wammy> ive stup the wireless, interface wlan0 has IP address, and a route and everything
[03:54] <Wammy> but it still wont connect to my network
[03:54] <danko123456> youre close.
[03:54] <danko123456> :)
[03:54] <qweqw> sounds like a conundrum alright
[03:55] <CitizenKane> i have a question for anyone who might know it, i am having trouble playing movies using MPlayer, I really don't know how to set it up, if i could get any help i'd appreciate it
[03:55] <qweqw> what sort of troubles
[03:55] <danko123456> how about other progs, CitizenKane
[03:55] <danko123456> ?
[03:55] <danko123456> does another program play movies?
[03:55] <goldfish> vlc !
[03:55] <goldfish> oh
[03:55] <goldfish> nm
[03:55] <Brunellus> darn.  wammy's gone
[03:56] <Brunellus> and I was going to ask him how he got his wlan0 up and running
[03:56] <danko123456> goldfish: :)
[03:56] <CitizenKane> what would be wrong with vlc?
[03:56] <goldfish> :)
[03:56] <danko123456> he'll be back
[03:56] <goldfish> nothing
[03:56] <qweqw> if you are trying to play proprietary compression schemes, containers, etc then you will need the win32codecs
[03:56] <nickrud> CitizenKane, have you done  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <ahuman01> It seems I've lost the Konqueror side panel ... how to get it back ?
[03:56] <danko123456> CitizenKane: what nickrud said
[03:56] <qweqw> and a 32 bit environment
[03:57] <nickrud> 32 bits matters :)
[03:57] <danko123456> #kubuntu for ahuman01
[03:57] <danko123456> zerokarmaleft: hi.
[03:57] <CitizenKane> i haven't, i'll give it a try
[03:57] <danko123456> do that
[03:57] <nickrud> CitizenKane, th
[03:57] <qweqw> mplayer is the best out of them all
[03:57] <nickrud> at's the first step for any ubuntu install
[03:57] <qweqw> if you can get it working, stick with it
[03:58] <danko123456> it is also hardest to get working
[03:58] <t3hEthan> back
[03:58] <nickrud> CitizenKane, and after you do that, apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[03:58] <zerokarmaleft> danko123456, hullo
[03:58] <Hobocop> hey citizenkane
[03:58] <Hobocop> :)
[03:58] <para> hallo!!
[03:58] <danko123456> there is no sound
[03:59] <para> kann einer deutsch hier und dazu mir noch helfen in sachen ubuntu?
[03:59] <qweqw> in space, no one can hear you scream
[03:59] <Hobocop> yet
[03:59] <t3hEthan> para
[03:59] <t3hEthan> joinen ubuntu-de
[03:59] <qweqw> auf reichen
[03:59] <qweqw> oust
[03:59] <danko123456> keine
[03:59] <t3hEthan> nein spreche Deutsch
[04:00] <WW> qweqw: in space, no one can hear your sarcasm
[04:00] <para> thx
[04:00] <danko123456> bitte
[04:00] <qweqw> i am not sarcastic
[04:00] <danko123456> sure you are
[04:00] <danko123456> :p
[04:00] <qweqw> no
[04:00] <WW> qweqw: I know... I'm not sure what that meant.
[04:00] <qweqw> i am a very intensely serious person
[04:01] <qweqw> everything is monumentally important
[04:01] <t3hEthan> INdeed.
[04:01] <Hobocop> INTERNETS ARE SERIOUS BUISNESS :):)
[04:01] <nickrud> sarcasm, indeed
[04:01] <t3hEthan> Dude, hobo, you're 19 right?
[04:01] <Hobocop> yes boy
[04:01] <t3hEthan> You act like you're like 13 >.<
[04:01] <Janux> nickrud, hi, that doesn't work, it doesn't show chinese even I restarted
[04:01] <danko123456> wow...a 1.4.2 java package for PPCubuntu
[04:01] <Hobocop> do you want me to buy you cigarettes
[04:01] <jfarrell> hey all I need some help adding to sources.list.  I need a repo that supports older version of software, specifically I am looking for libgtkhtl3.2
[04:01] <Hobocop> what no this is my internet personality
[04:01] <jfarrell> *libgtkhtml3.2
[04:01] <t3hEthan> Nice
[04:01] <jfarrell> -dev
[04:02] <Hobocop> you must peer through the mysts of time and space
[04:02] <nickrud> Janus, wait a sec
[04:02] <Brunellus> OK.  I'm going to go to bed witht his thing still broken.
[04:02] <qweqw> don't risk your life with tobacco, kids
[04:02] <Brunellus> damn you, upgrade-dist!
[04:02] <jfarrell> current version of the repo is 3.6
[04:02] <t3hEthan> Nah, I don't smoke. Shit don't even get ya high
[04:02] <Hobocop> tobacco is a fun and addictive substance
[04:02] <qweqw> i thought it was dist-upgrade!
[04:02] <Hobocop> :)
[04:02] <Brunellus> well, whichever
[04:02] <qweqw> no wonder my packages never update
[04:02] <jfarrell> anyone got a clue they can hit me with
[04:02] <danko123456> yeah, the one that screwed you up
[04:02] <qweqw> jfarrell, it was colonel mustard
[04:02] <danko123456> a clue...a shoe?
[04:02] <danko123456> haha
[04:03] <Brunellus> there.
[04:03] <danko123456> not rreally funny
[04:03] <jfarrell> no but seriously, just need a repo that has older version of libraries
[04:03] <danko123456> I mean, my sentence..
[04:03] <jfarrell> I think it would be universe
[04:03] <jfarrell> but I uncommented and apt-get broke
[04:03] <t3hEthan> "apt-get update"?
[04:03] <Brunellus> OK.  I'm going to bed.
[04:03] <jfarrell> t3hEthan, no I dont want to update, I want get an older version of something
[04:03] <t3hEthan> No
[04:03] <nickrud> Janux, try joining #ubuntu-zh, they will know more than I
[04:04] <t3hEthan> It updates your repositories
[04:04] <qweqw> you want to sync sources.list with the index files on your system
[04:04] <qweqw> RIGHT?
[04:04] <jfarrell> ohh
[04:04] <t3hEthan> apt-get upgrade modifies your pkgs
[04:04] <t3hEthan> yay!
[04:05] <qweqw> i hate asian midgets
[04:05] <nickrud> jfarrell, if you want old packages, take a look at archives.ubuntu.com/pool
[04:05] <Janux> nickrud, thanks but they seem like not replying
[04:05] <qweqw> it doesn't get any worse than that
[04:05] <jfarrell> nah that worked
[04:05] <Janux> qweqw, what's midgets?
[04:05] <gp_aaron> j/w what wm, de does every one run?
[04:05] <nickrud> Janux, the people who know don't seem to be around right now, maybe #ubuntu-devel can help
[04:05] <qweqw> they work on railroads, JanC
[04:05] <Pops> hello
[04:05] <Hobocop> whats midgets?
[04:05] <Hobocop> lmao
[04:05] <qweqw> damnit
[04:05] <Janux> nickrud, ic..thanks
[04:06] <art> I am new to linux, and i have a sound blaster live card when i try to play music it tells me there is a conflict or it is not configured correcctly, help me please
[04:06] <qweqw> ok
[04:06] <qweqw> try this
[04:06] <qweqw> smash your head against the keyboard five times
[04:06] <Pops> anyone here that could help me with installing ubuntu on a computer?
[04:06] <qweqw> then spin around until you fall
[04:06] <qweqw> then ask that question again
[04:07] <nickrud> and ignore the sarcasm :)
[04:07] <qweqw> ok, art
[04:07] <qweqw> fuck, where do you even start with something like that
[04:07] <Janux> qweqw, hey, I don't know if you are serious or not, but please do not laugh at other races when they don't know much, okay?
[04:08] <qweqw> are you saying other races are dumb?
[04:08] <qweqw> that's just wrong, man
[04:08] <nickrud> art, could you give us the exact error, as long as it's not more than three lines long
[04:09] <Pops> anyone here that could help me with installing ubuntu on a computer?
[04:09] <qweqw> seriously though, Janux
[04:09] <qweqw> i am not making fun of anyone
[04:09] <nickrud> Pops, what's your particular question?
[04:09] <qweqw> i certainly hope the asian midgets who frequent this channel were not offended
[04:09] <goldfish> LOL
[04:10] <art> Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)
[04:10] <Pops> when I try to install it it boots from the cd
[04:10] <Pops> asks for boot
[04:10] <t3hEthan> hit enter
[04:10] <Pops> I hit enter for default
[04:10] <qweqw> art, apt-cache search libao
[04:10] <lexhider> is sarge->hoary upgrade supported?
[04:11] <nickrud> lexhider, I've heard of people doing it, but usually from unstable
[04:11] <qweqw> oh yeah, open a terminal window
[04:11] <wastrel> ubuntu 100%
[04:11] <qweqw> at the prompt, type apt-cache search libao
[04:11] <decaf> lexhider: I personally dont recommend that way
[04:11] <t3hEthan> why're you angry?
[04:11] <Pops> it says loading isolinux: disk error 10, AX = 42B3, drive EF
[04:11] <art> qweqw, i did that and installed libao2 still no go
[04:11] <nickrud> lexhider, but the results are not defined :)
[04:11] <qweqw> hmm
[04:12] <nickrud> Pops, you have a bad cd, try burning another
[04:12] <tsume> watching animal planet
[04:12] <qweqw> what does it say when you cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp
[04:12] <transgress> okay so ubuntu comes with LVM but does it use it by default or what?
[04:12] <transgress> because my partitions don't look like they are using LVM
[04:12] <wastrel> what's LVM
[04:12] <lexhider> nickrud:thanks
[04:12] <tsume> these two pitbulls have the mange very badly :( Humanity for all living species!
[04:12] <qweqw> i think it autoruns cds and whatnot
[04:12] <tsume> damn human :(
[04:13] <qweqw> never heard of it before i saw it on ubuntu
[04:13] <tsume> ubuntu actually means specisist ;)
[04:13] <hybrid>  /NETSPLIT
[04:13] <dazzed> its netsplitting again
[04:13] <hybrid> no
[04:13] <Pops> think I should redownload it and then re burn the cd?
[04:13] <tsume> its alindeman's fault ;)
[04:13] <oasiao> yo
[04:13] <tsume> alindeman: oops, didn't know you were here :)
[04:13] <dazzed> grrr
[04:14] <art> qweqw no such device
[04:14] <hybrid> it said tyope /NETSPLIT so i did
[04:14] <cens0red> this chan is ridiculously big.
[04:14] <qweqw> dizam
[04:14] <qweqw> ls /dev/dsp*
[04:14] <cens0red> you should split it up into #ubuntu-newby
[04:14] <cens0red> #ubuntu-server
[04:14] <tsume> cens0red: no
[04:14] <cens0red> #ubuntu-developer
[04:14] <tsume> cens0red: #python is like that, its annoying
[04:14] <cens0red> tsume ok.
[04:14] <hybrid> cens0red: how many ppl are in here "estimate"
[04:14] <|QuaD-> cens0red: #ubuntu=devel exists
[04:14] <t3hEthan> 497
[04:14] <|QuaD-> *#ubuntu-devel
[04:15] <tsume> cens0red: I've to join _both_ channels, which doesn't solve the problem. It only replicates it
[04:15] <t3hEthan> it says right over in the corner
[04:15] <art> i get /dev/dsp  /dev/dsp1
[04:15] <cens0red> tsume been a while since I've been to #python. All they ever say there is "twisted".
[04:15] <qweqw> try cat /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp1
[04:15] <qweqw> just to be certain
[04:15] <cens0red> |QuaD- oh cool!
[04:16] <qweqw> doubt that will result in anything different, but who knows
[04:16] <Hider> hello
[04:16] <qweqw> art, it's a sound blaster live.. that's it? the entire name
[04:16] <qweqw> ?
[04:16] <t3hEthan> Hey Hider-person
[04:17] <Hider> I have a question
[04:17] <Hider> I can't use my cdrw under linux
[04:17] <hybrid> Hider: most of us do
[04:17] <hybrid> ^have a question
[04:17] <art> it shows it as sb Live EMU10K1
[04:18] <qweqw> where does it say that at
[04:18] <t3hEthan> why not?
[04:18] <art> in device manager, but i am not certain, didn't look in pc
[04:18] <t3hEthan> whats it doin
[04:18] <art> Device manager
[04:18] <hybrid> Hider: what kind of cdrw
[04:18] <qweqw> wtf is the device manager
[04:18] <Hider> ide cdrw
[04:18] <Janux> I have a question guys, if I run the file browser in Ubuntu, it says "starting file browser" but then it doesn't show up and it stops running and when I run "ps -A", it shows  that Nautilis is still running, what does that mean?
[04:18] <art> it is in ubungtu
[04:18] <hybrid> Hider: usb?
[04:18] <Hider> cdrecord -scanbus does see
[04:18] <Hider> nope
[04:18] <hybrid> ubungtu
[04:18] <hybrid> lol
[04:18] <t3hEthan> apt-get install k3b
[04:19] <transgress> apt-get install gnomebaker
[04:19] <Hider> I did all those
[04:19] <hybrid> Hider: so it is internal but not recognized
[04:19] <hybrid> ?
[04:19] <treke|home> grrrr. had everything working, then I went and replaced the machine. bad move :p
[04:19] <Hider> it insists on it's not a cdrw
[04:19] <qweqw> you can specify the device directly
[04:19] <qweqw> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdX
[04:19] <art> the command /dev/urandom >/dev/dsp1 just hangs
[04:19] <tsume> :( what in the hell are wrong with people :(
[04:19] <qweqw> really
[04:19] <t3hEthan> what's wrong tsume
[04:19] <qweqw> it just sits there?
[04:19] <hybrid> Hider: will it let you write with it
[04:19] <art> yeah
[04:19] <art> never returns
[04:19] <oasiao> ...
[04:20] <qweqw> if so, that means a device is associated with it
[04:20] <tsume> t3hEthan: I'm watching animal planet
[04:20] <tsume> t3hEthan: the Animal Cops show is on
[04:20] <hybrid> wtf it keeps netsplitting?
[04:20] <tsume> hybrid: alindeman's fault, ask him
[04:21] <tsume> t3hEthan: people are starving the dogs, and what was really sad were teh 2 pitbulls who might have to be put down because the mange is so bad on them :(
[04:21] <tsume> t3hEthan: really sad.
[04:21] <t3hEthan> aww! :(
[04:21] <tsume> they looks like dried up mummies
[04:21] <qweqw> otherwise it would fail
[04:21] <qweqw> check your volume and pcm, connections, et
[04:21] <qweqw> c
[04:21] <qweqw> check your volume and pcm, connections, etc
[04:21] <art> I can boot knoppix cd and it works
[04:21] <qweqw> apparently it's on dsp1
[04:21] <hybrid> another
[04:22] <hybrid> ??????
[04:22] <t3hEthan> sha-boom
[04:22] <gratuit> anyone know of a way to delay a command by a few seconds? i.e. I type somthing, and then the command I want to run is executed 30 secs later
[04:22] <nickrud> dazzed, it will happen cuz you said so :)
[04:22] <qweqw> art?
[04:22] <art> yeah
[04:22] <dazzed> nickrud: of course!
[04:22] <qweqw> did you check your volume, pcm, and all that?
[04:22] <nickrud> gratuit, I think you need wait
[04:22] <WW> gratuit: sleep 30; command
[04:22] <qweqw> make sure it's loud enough to hear
[04:22] <art> what is PCM
[04:23] <art> but volume ok
[04:23] <Hider> hey no idea of why it's not working?
[04:23] <wastrel> h00t
[04:23] <art> PCM ok
[04:23] <art> conections ok, still don't nkow what pcm is
[04:23] <qweqw> turn everything to 50
[04:23] <nickrud> if it wasn't for rhythmbox, I'd say lynch colin walters :)
[04:23] <art> but remember with me the program will not start playing fails before it starts
[04:24] <qweqw> that's because they tend to default to the first dsp
[04:24] <art> how can i change it to the second?
[04:25] <qweqw> recompile?
[04:25] <nickrud> art, the simplest way is to blacklist the first
[04:25] <qweqw> not sure, actually
[04:25] <art> hhow do i blacklist the first?
[04:25] <qweqw> you could just link dsp to dsp1
[04:25] <art> I am really new
[04:25] <Hider> is there a discussion room that I can talk about this damn cdrw problem?
[04:25] <nickrud> art, do you know what the first card is?
[04:25] <wastrel> Hider:  try #linuxhelp
[04:25] <art> no,
[04:25] <qweqw> nothing
[04:26] <YuWei> hi
[04:26] <oasiao> So can i use python with glade
[04:26] <nickrud> art, ok, do 'lspci' (no ticks) and look for the info that tells you about your sound cards
[04:26] <nickrud> tell me which one you want, and the one you don't want
[04:26] <qweqw> there is no device attached to dsp0
[04:27] <nickrud> qweqw, ? I came in late
[04:27] <qweqw> yup, it's pointing to nothing
[04:27] <nickrud> lsof | grep /dev/dsp?
[04:27] <qweqw> but he can cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp1
[04:27] <qweqw> and it accepts it, though no sound
[04:27] <xMaximex> If i change my motherboard, do i need to reinstall ubuntu ?
[04:27] <nickrud> art, try, in a terminal, 'esd'
[04:28] <art> lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[04:28] <art> cat       8967       root    1w      CHR      14,19               7851 /dev/dsp1
[04:28] <qweqw> xMaximex, probably
[04:28] <qweqw> unless each reboot goes through all the modules
[04:28] <art> esd no such device
[04:28] <nickrud> art, let's go back to lspci, start from the ground :)
[04:28] <YuWei> I tried to play a .asf file in my xine player, but it pop up a problem when loading the tsccvid.dll decode lib which is already in /use/lib/win32, could anybody help with that?
[04:29] <art> 0000:01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[04:29] <qweqw> er..
[04:29] <art> that is the on that i want
[04:29] <nickrud> art, and there's no onboard sound?
[04:29] <art> no
[04:29] <HrdwrBoB> art: if there is a builtin soundcard, ensure it is disabled in the bios
[04:29] <qweqw> which part is the error message, yucek
[04:29] <qweqw> damnit
[04:29] <qweqw> YuWei,
[04:30] <YuWei> ok, hand on, i will copy it
[04:30] <nickrud> art, HrdwrBoB knows more about hardware than I do :)
[04:31] <art> ok well thank you guys for the help
[04:31] <qweqw> i interpreted everything after "decode lib" as your own comment
[04:31] <qweqw> good luck, arbscht
[04:31] <qweqw> xchat name completion sucks bad
[04:31] <HrdwrBoB> art: can you lsmod and put the output on pastebin
[04:31] <HrdwrBoB> as well as lspci
[04:32] <nickrud> thanks, HrdwrBoB
[04:32] <HrdwrBoB> np
[04:32] <t3hEthan> Hardware Bob gets a cookie.
[04:32] <YuWei> it says "the stream '/home/alex/desktop/1.asf' use an unsupported code: video codec: TechSmith Screen Capture Codec(win32) (tscc)
[04:32] <art> i am not sure what lsmod is and pastebin
[04:32] <qweqw> a cookie for two lines
[04:33] <qweqw> i should have a crate full of cookies
[04:33] <qweqw> i was just as unhelpful
[04:33] <abstractism> hey all
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> art: run 'lsmod'
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> pastebin.com
[04:33] <mae> wondershaper rocks!
[04:33] <HrdwrBoB> you can put the output there and it will give you a link to show me what it is
[04:33] <qweqw> and you say you already have the win32 codecs installed?
[04:33] <YuWei> yes qweqw
[04:34] <YuWei> i can find the tsccvid.dll file in my /usr/lib/win32
[04:34] <qweqw> you might want to check the settings, to see if you can tell it which directories to look in for libraries
[04:35] <YuWei> the directory i set is the same as the file located
[04:35] <qweqw> what are the permissions on the file
[04:35] <mae> hm
[04:35] <wastrel> what's wondershaper
[04:36] <YuWei> re-r--r-- root
[04:36] <YuWei> rx-r--r-- root
[04:36] <qweqw> did you try it as root
[04:36] <joe|code> has anyone gotten eclipse working on ubuntu?
[04:36] <qweqw> playing the file, that is
[04:36] <art> hwdwrbob it is out ther
[04:36] <YuWei> no
[04:36] <YuWei> thx
[04:37] <qweqw> i don't know if they have to be executable or not, so you might want to try that first
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> art: give me the link :)
[04:37] <fateisajester> i have heard of a program that will allow you to virtually boot windows through linux.... similar to cygwin for windows
[04:37] <fateisajester>  what is it and where can i get it?
[04:37] <art> http://www.pastebin.com/276999
[04:37] <wastrel> you're talking about that vmware thing
[04:37] <wastrel> or wine?
[04:38] <fateisajester> no...not wine
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> art: ahh
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> art: what USB devices do you have
[04:38] <fateisajester> ill look up vmware
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> a USB handset or something?
[04:38] <fateisajester> thx
[04:38] <qweqw> YuWei, if that works chmod 555 all the codecs you'll need
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> snd_usb_audio          60224  2  <- that is your problem
[04:38] <art> mouse, camera
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> art: unplug the camera, reboot, and it will work
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> then plug the camera in
[04:39] <qweqw> lol
[04:39] <drcode> hi all
[04:39] <drcode> any one have play with wine?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> that is the easiest way to fix it
[04:39] <qweqw> sometimes, it's good not to have all your hardware automagically detected..
[04:39] <art> thank you easy fix. great
[04:39] <embsupafly> hello all! I am trying to install ubuntu on a second machine with a D-Link DWL-G510 Card (Wireless).  During the Ubuntu install, it errors "Network card not identified", how do I get it to find the wireless nic during install?
[04:45] <WW> next to maui?
[04:46] <nickrud> oops
[04:46] <wastrel> mutual of omaha's wild kingdom
[04:46] <nickrud> :)
[04:46] <qweqw> how many miles from melbourne to sydney???? can i get there today???
[04:46] <jldugger> embsupafly, during install? you need the madwifi package...
[04:46] <abbot45> hey guys.  im looking for a imagemagick-dev package but its not in the repository.  can anyone tell me where i can get it?
[04:47] <qweqw> download the imagemagick source
[04:47] <embsupafly> jldugger: how do you get the madwifi package during install?
[04:47] <pat> hey all
[04:47] <jldugger> embsupafly, donno. i just used an onboard port =(
[04:47] <qweqw> what libraries does imagemagick use?
[04:47] <HrdwrBoB> libmagick++6-dev
[04:47] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[04:47] <abbot45> qweqw: is it included in the regular package?
[04:47] <qweqw> get the -dev files for that
[04:48] <qweqw> well, yeah
[04:48] <qweqw> that's how it can compile
[04:48] <Cowlike> is this is?  libmagick++6-dev
[04:48] <HrdwrBoB> qweqw: it's a long  days drive from melb-> syd
[04:48] <HrdwrBoB> or a few hours on a plan
[04:48] <Cowlike> it's in "universe"
[04:48] <abbot45> ill try that
[04:48] <wastrel> <3 imagemagick
[04:48] <qweqw> oh well, just goes to show you how little i know about geography
[04:48] <treke|home> anyone ever had problems with mail not leaving the postfix queue while using procmail on hoary for amd64?
[04:48] <qweqw> i forget which cities are like<PHONE_NUMBER>738947 miles apart
[04:49] <HrdwrBoB> qweqw: perth is a billion k's from anywhere
[04:49] <Amaranth> qweqw: A city on jupiter?
[04:49] <nickrud> since I haven't been to either omaha or melbourne .....
[04:49] <qweqw> ouch
[04:49] <qweqw> take turns on the quips next time
[04:50] <nickrud> quips are often self destructive :)
[04:50] <qweqw> that's why i carry a gun
[04:50] <qweqw> i can defend myself against others, and myself
[04:50] <nickrud> that's why I learned to say, oops
[04:50] <nickrud> and hope for the best
[04:51] <qweqw> no way
[04:51] <wastrel> you live in florida?
[04:51] <qweqw> never admit you're wrong, unless you aren't
[04:51] <wastrel> You put an uncursed thoroughly rusty +1 pair of gauntlets of power into the bag
[04:51] <wastrel> called holding.
[04:52] <qweqw> the psychiatrist told me i was a danger to myself
[04:52] <qweqw> hence the firearm
[04:52] <nickrud> wise man
[04:52] <qweqw> it's all about personal responsibility
[04:52] <qweqw> people aren't going to take care of your problems for you
[04:53] <qweqw> woman, btw
[04:53] <qweqw> she was no help
[04:53] <qweqw> didn't even get a valium out of her
[04:53] <nickrud> now I'm getting freaked out
[04:54] <qweqw> need to find a quack
[04:54] <nickrud> :)
[04:54] <qweqw> alright
[04:54] <oasiao> mmm valium
[04:54] <qweqw> b double e double run
[04:54] <qweqw> beer run.. beer run..
[04:54] <qweqw> yeah
[04:55] <oasiao> its the caffiene
[04:55] <qweqw> how the hell am i supposed to sleep after doing ecstasy without valium?
[04:55] <oasiao> O
[04:55] <danko123451> o_O
[04:55] <WW> all you need is a ten and a fiver...
[04:55] <qweqw> eh
[04:55] <nickrud> prices in england must be high
[04:56] <tonquin> hey i'm just getting started with Ubuntu.   wanted to upgrade the skype to 1.1   so i did but it doesn't work so i went "uninstall" it but some removed it (i guess)  from Synaptic...any idea how i can get it back :P
[04:56] <qweqw> they get it for cheap
[04:56] <danko123451> tonquin: get what, skype back into your synaptic?
[04:56] <qweqw> i just thought of a new life goal
[04:56] <nickrud> WW, as a personal test, are you in the UK (the fiver reference)
[04:57] <WW> nickrud: Nope... just quoting the song.
[04:57] <nickrud> k, wondering
[04:58] <qweqw> i have been wondering
[04:58] <danko123451> uh ph
[04:58] <qweqw> why did luke skywalker get a mechanical hand?
[04:58] <tonquin> danko123451  yes  its still listed there but its "empy" now
[04:58] <qweqw> you would think that with that type of technology, it would be cheaper and easier just to grow one
[04:59] <danko123451> tonquin: there http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[04:59] <tonquin> danko123451:  thanks
[04:59] <danko123451> sure
[04:59] <danko123451> bookmark the page
[04:59] <danko123451> read what it can do for you...
[04:59] <qweqw> does freenode have any SSL enabled servers?
[05:01] <tirian> qweqw: Nope. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#sslaccess
[05:01] <Boohbah> qweqw: why does irc over ssl even make a difference? are you worried about man in the middle attacks?
[05:02] <Viper12> Well, this is not good.  ibm e-server.  1 ide drive with 2 scsi. ubuntu installation is smooth....but on reboot, I get a 1962 Drive does not contain valid boot sector.  No errors on initial installation. (the ide drive contains ext3 'data' I do not want to lose, but is not a part of the boot process. (ubuntu lives on scsci drives.)
[05:04] <mikerobi> Viper12: did you install onto existing partitions?
[05:04] <qweqw> Boohbah, 'cause i can connect through tor and the exit server can't read the data they are transmitting
[05:04] <qweqw> in case a global ban ensues in some future time
[05:04] <Viper12> the scsi drives had a hoary beta....but were both erased and setup from scratch.  the ide device is setup as ext3 and was used to 'backup' the data needed for the full release install of hoary.
[05:05] <qweqw> plus, sometimes anonymity is good
[05:06] <danko123451> like qweqw
[05:06] <nickrud> I have a thing about anonymity
[05:06] <qweqw> too bad IIP is no longer working
[05:06] <qweqw> this is my real ip address, danko123451
[05:06] <qweqw> do you object to anonymity?
[05:07] <nakata> #tor
[05:07] <Viper12> mikerobi, any ideas?
[05:07] <nickrud> qweqw, I just erased my last statement on that :)
[05:07] <nickrud> qweqw, I abused anonymity about 20 years ago on bbs's, and have learned my lesson
[05:08] <qweqw> i'm all for very good anonymity as the default mechanism of the internet
[05:08] <qweqw> it's increasingly necessary, IMO.
[05:08] <cevans> Is the Xsession session option in GDM not included in Hoary?
[05:09] <qweqw> these days, we are seeing more and more intrusive legislation.. i think it's obvious someone is trying to consolidate power
[05:09] <nickrud> anonymity is protection, not a license
[05:09] <qweqw> i'm not concerned about what people do with it
[05:10] <nickrud> qweqw, neither am I, I'm only concerned about myself
[05:10] <oasiao> :(
[05:10] <qweqw> then having the choice to be nobody should be welcome
[05:10] <oasiao> im concerned about u
[05:11] <danko123451> well...privacy, anonimity, and security...
[05:11] <Viper12> Are there any mods in channel this evening?  I'm curious, because this room is sooo far OFF topic its not funny.
[05:11] <danko123451> you are a nobody to most ppl
[05:11] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[05:11] <nickrud> YES, anonymity is important, necessary, and a requirement
[05:11] <qweqw> sure am
[05:11] <qweqw> i would like to be sure that i stay that way
[05:11] <nickrud> google rich rudnick nickrud
[05:11] <danko123451> Viper12: no.
[05:11] <nickrud> I'll live with it
[05:11] <Viper12> figures
[05:12] <wastrel> <3 anonymity
[05:12] <Absenth> Evening all.
[05:12] <danko123451> Viper12: sure does...
[05:12] <danko123451> hi Absenth
[05:12] <qweqw> yeah, where's the good stuff nickrud
[05:12] <oasiao> new york new york city of dreams , everything in new york isnt always what it seems
[05:12] <stevenj> I wonder why the new openoffice 1.1 update is 1.1.3 and not the lastest stable 1.1.4?
[05:12] <oasiao> damn im bored
[05:13] <wastrel> mmm new ooffice i should download that
[05:13] <nickrud> qweqw, the good stuff, I'll never tell, cuz I'm ashamed, to be blunt
[05:13] <danko123451> hehe, nickrud
[05:13] <qweqw> ditto on that one
[05:13] <qweqw> lol
[05:13] <stevenj> wastrel, it appears to be the same version---maybe just fixes to 1.1.3---strange
[05:14] <danko123451> isnt it like 2.0 ne beta release?
[05:14] <cevans> Does anyone know why GDM would no longer have an option to use my ~/.xsession for the session?
[05:14] <djones> hi Absenth
[05:14] <Absenth> This has been a productive week.
[05:15] <danko123451> really?    I've only asked this question once.
[05:18] <tonquin> thx
[05:18] <crimsun> bodaciousb: you should be using msttcorefonts from multiverse.
[05:18] <re|run> djones: no.
[05:18] <bodaciousb> well the apt-get cant get the msttcorefonts
[05:18] <crimsun> bodaciousb: see what I just typed :)
[05:18] <re|run> it's the weirdest thing.
[05:18] <Absenth> bodaciousb, add multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list  and "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[05:19] <djones> re|run: nevermind qweqw, he's trolling.
[05:19] <re|run> If I mess with it repeatedly I can get it to work --- but it's totally random.
[05:19] <tonquin> crimsum: it returns  8672
[05:19] <bodaciousb> Absenth, how do i add multiverse to sources.list?
[05:19] <re|run> it works for a while, then it stops.
[05:19] <danko123451> bodaciousb: THIS CAlls for a http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:19] <Absenth> www.ubuntuguide.org  :)
[05:19] <re|run> then I can't get it at all for awhile...
[05:19] <Absenth> What he said.
[05:19] <bodaciousb> ok
[05:19] <crimsun> tonquin: then you need to ,,pkill esd'' before starting audacity, since audacity needs /dev/dsp access, which esd takes
[05:19] <elcu> why don't they but the guide in the channel topic
[05:19] <qweqw> dude, re|run .. that made no sense at all
[05:20] <djones> re|run, have you tried a different card?
[05:20] <bloc76> i booted from a live cd on my mac. How do I  mount the hard drive?
[05:20] <re|run> it's not a card. it's centrino.
[05:20] <crimsun> elcu: because ubuntuguide is not official
[05:20] <danko123451> it is, elcu
[05:20] <Absenth> Amaranth, I do like OS-X quite a bit.  with FINK, and the Darwin X11 it's even pretty useful.
[05:20] <danko123451> it is inthe topic, isnt it?
[05:20] <crimsun> elcu: note that it's linked from sites that _are_ in the topic
[05:20] <danko123451> Absenth: right now on a 12" iBook running Ubuntu:P
[05:21] <Absenth> danko123451, G4 ibook + airport Extreme = linux sucks.
[05:21] <elcu> crimsun: it would still help.  i reference it for almost every second answer
[05:21] <danko123451> it was there, crimsun
[05:21] <djones> re|run, do you have wifi card at your disposal?
[05:21] <danko123451> it was there recently, I saw it.
[05:21] <re|run> uh, yeah
[05:21] <indigirl1> runs great on a toshiba satellite laptop, including wifi
[05:21] <Absenth> danko123451, actually it's apples falt, not any of the linux distros faults.
[05:21] <elcu> crimsun: ah, goodo
[05:21] <bloc76> does anyone know how to mount the ibook hd from a live cd boot?
[05:21] <danko123451> fault is a funny word
[05:21] <crimsun> danko123451: yes, I'm aware. The decision to remove it was not mine, but it makes sense from a "supported" perspective.
[05:21] <djones> re|run, I'm wondering if it isn't a driver issue
[05:21] <danko123451> I never got that Mac hard drive mounting down
[05:22] <danko123451> sure
[05:22] <Absenth> danko123451, I suppose I could slap in the Micro$oft usb PrismII card to run Ubuntu....  there's a bit of irony....  apple computer, Linux Os, MS network card...  :)
[05:22] <re|run> djones: I had that thought... i couldn't properly set up another card. it just acted really weird.
[05:22] <danko123451> crimsun: just noting the fact that it was there, cause I said it was there now.
[05:22] <danko123451> Absenth: the irony is all mine...
[05:22] <danko123451> :)
[05:22] <re|run> djones: but I don't really know how to set one up -- lol
[05:23] <djones> re|run, are you in linux now?
[05:23] <re|run> yep... on 2 cpus
[05:23] <djones> sweet
[05:23] <danko123451> can you mount the apple partition to a linux, Absenth?
[05:23] <pochi> how long does it take to aquire my copy from shippit?
[05:23] <Absenth> danko123451, my dlink prismII has been all hacked up to accept other antennas, which works great for driving around, but not so great for sitting at a coffee shop checking my mail.
[05:23] <re|run> the weird thing is that it's actually *working* right now.
[05:23] <qweqw> what
[05:23] <elcu> pochi: depends where you are apparently
[05:23] <qweqw> is working
[05:23] <crimsun> pochi: anywhere from a few weeks to several months depending on the order size and location
[05:24] <djones> yeah, that makes it hard to diagnose.  I used to have a car that would only work when I took it to the shop to have it looked at.
[05:24] <re|run> djones: but it's totally inconsistent
[05:24] <Absenth> danko123451, never bothered to load linux on the apple, as the airport extreme isn't supported, and I never use the notebook near any avalible RJ45s
[05:24] <bodaciousb> Absenth, ubuntoguide.org looks entirely different than what i have in my sources.list
[05:24] <oasiao> ...
[05:24] <oasiao> do not go to the room named secret
[05:24] <qweqw> re|run, so it's completely random
[05:24] <oasiao> channel
[05:24] <Absenth> bodaciousb, did you put ubuntuguide.org in your web browser, and read about "extra sources"
[05:24] <qweqw> no cause..
[05:24] <Absenth> or whatever it's called :)
[05:24] <qweqw> ?
[05:25] <danko123451> bodaciousb: is your Ubuntu Warty?
[05:25] <bodaciousb> Sorry guys, it is the same
[05:25] <bodaciousb> it looked different =)
[05:25] <pochi> i made an order a month ago and still hasnt recieve any.. im from the philippines anyway..
[05:25] <danko123451> ok...
[05:25] <danko123451> :)
[05:25] <danko123451> id wait a bit more..
[05:25] <crimsun> pochi: I'd be worried if my order hasn't arrived in 4 months :)
[05:25] <djones> re|run, I don't know what I can do to help, but you should join the list-serv, It's really active, and allot of knowlegable people subscribe.
[05:25] <elcu> pochi: i've been told mine will take 10 weeks to get here in aus.  an easier way is to just burn the ISO.
[05:26] <fateisajester> has any one here been able to get the java desktop environment thing to with ubuntu?
[05:26] <crimsun> fateisajester: which one?
[05:26] <fateisajester> to work*
[05:26] <qweqw> why waste your money?
[05:26] <danko123451> Java RE>
[05:26] <crimsun> fateisajester: I've used Eclipse and Netbeans both under Warty and Hoary.
[05:26] <danko123451> ?
[05:26] <fateisajester> hold on.... ill get the name
[05:26] <danko123451> you do that:P
[05:27] <djones|sleep> night all
[05:27] <bloc76> danko123451, do you know of a page that tries to explain how to mount the mac hd?
[05:27] <qweqw> nighty night, don't let the bed bugs bite
[05:27] <foxiness> i want to own the subdirectories on /home/foxiness "the folder and file[and "." stuff]  form /root" ? am tried "chown -R foxiness"
[05:27] <re|run> djones: wow. nevermind on the card --- it worked instantly.
[05:27] <re|run> djones: yeah, I'll join the list-serv.
[05:27] <qweqw> what voodoo did you do
[05:27] <danko123451> no, bloc76 let me know if you can google one up for us.
[05:27] <Absenth> so Does anyone know if there is a functioning 3d Desktop manager for me to play with?
[05:27] <bloc76> danko123451, i'm looking now :)
[05:27] <crimsun> foxiness: it's a bad idea to chown stuff in /root
[05:27] <fateisajester> JD4X
[05:28] <qweqw> they all suck, abarbaccia
[05:28] <qweqw> Absenth,
[05:28] <danko123451> chown -R /home/foxiness?
[05:28] <Absenth> or are they all still being talked about, and not really in development.
[05:28] <pochi> will i be able to get the latest release(5.04) since i made an order before it was released?
[05:28] <bodaciousb> i got the fonts all installed guys, thanks
[05:28] <foxiness> crimsun, this stuff on /home/foxiness "not on /root"
[05:28] <Absenth> qweqw,  can you share some examples?  I'm curious how they are implemented.  Don't care really if they suck or not :)
[05:28] <danko123451> hehe, there was some mention on what is the cutoff date for Hoary
[05:29] <crimsun> foxiness: (...so why mention /root in your question?)
[05:29] <qweqw> i've tried a couple of them, over the years
[05:29] <fateisajester> crimsun: its called JD4X
[05:29] <crimsun> fateisajester: I've no experience with that, sorry.
[05:29] <danko123451> chown -R /home/foxiness?
[05:29] <fateisajester> http://jdx.sourceforge.net/
[05:29] <elcu> pochi: you'll almost certainly get it.  it jsut might take a while. :) i'd cut them some slack.  they're sending t for free after all.
[05:29] <danko123451> what is that, fateisajester?
[05:29] <qweqw> let me check freshmeat
[05:30] <fateisajester> some sort of java desktop environment
[05:30] <crimsun> foxiness: things in $HOME should already be owned by your user:group
[05:30] <fateisajester> like kde or gnome
[05:30] <foxiness> crimsun, becouse this file from /root folder
[05:30] <pochi> ok..thank you guys...
[05:30] <oasiao> http://linuxreviews.org/features/3ddesktop/
[05:30] <qweqw> although, your definition of 3d might be different than mine.. i've seen some good attempts at depicting depth and transparency
[05:30] <oasiao> but im not sure about it , never used it
[05:30] <crimsun> foxiness: just one file? sudo chown user somefile
[05:30] <stevenj> what do I need to install to start writing and learning C programming?
[05:30] <qweqw> but not a full blown 3d desktop, file manager, etc
[05:30] <foxiness> danko123451, i will tried it now
[05:30] <qweqw> gcc
[05:31] <qweqw> stazz,
[05:31] <qweqw> damnit
[05:31] <qweqw> install gcc
[05:31] <danko123451> chown -R foxiness /home/foxiness?
[05:31] <elcu> stevenj: manpages-dev would be useful
[05:31] <crimsun> stevenj: a couple good C resources, namely the K&R book (bible), a C compiler (try gcc from build-essential), and man pages (see openbsd.org's manual pages section)
[05:31] <goldfish> apt-get build-essential
[05:31] <bloc76> has anyone dual booted with os x?
[05:31] <stevenj> crimsun, thanks
[05:32] <re|run> bluetooth question: what would cause the bluetooth manager to freeze at 5% detection every time?