[00:22] <muesli> anyone in here already tried the kde 4.4 beta2 packages?
[00:31] <gorgonizer> muesli: I am running it atm, is working very well..
[00:32] <muesli> gorgonizer: nice, thanks for the info
[00:32] <gorgonizer> muesli: I found B1 quite buggy, and I experienced a number of crashes.. hardly experienced any on B2..
[00:42] <Phyber0ptik> can someone point me to a good tutorial on learning to use the terminal?
[00:45] <rstob911> Phyber0ptik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=990636
[00:46] <Roasted> chickennnnnnnnnnnn yeahh!
[01:16] <sarimurat> #ubuntu
[01:19] <antlarr> hi
[01:19] <petr_russia> hi
[01:19] <petr_russia> antlarr hi man
[01:19] <antlarr> is anybody using kubuntu with a bluetooth keyboard?
[01:20] <antlarr> hi petr
[01:20] <petr_russia> no
[01:21] <antlarr> I don't understand how it should work, and all the information I find is for (k)ubuntu 7.x or 8.x
  where do you live?  How time is now in your country?
[01:27] <antlarr> petr_russia: 2:25
[01:28] <petr_russia> east europe
[01:28] <antlarr> west
[01:29] <petr_russia> moscow - 4:29   ))
[01:30] <antlarr> ok :)
[01:32] <petr_russia> antlarr   man, which ICQ client do you use in kubuntu?
[01:33] <petr_russia> I use Pidgin   and I not like it
[01:33] <petr_russia> do not*
[01:34] <petr_russia> mannn       tell with me
[01:37] <petr_russia> bye
[02:28] <andrea> hi
[02:32] <idyle> Hey everyone does nepomuk search work for you? It's turned on in the settings, but when I search for stuff I don't get any results
[02:38] <hagabaka> chromium-daily ppa is more like chromium-tri-hourly :O
[03:10] <augustin> bonsoir à tous
[03:11] <augustin> quelqun peut me dire comment changer de langue avec firefox sur kubuntu 8.04 s'il vous plais
[03:12] <augustin> y a quelqun ?
[03:15] <Cuddletauren> parles anglais
[03:18] <oops6_4> Hi can anyone please tell me how to enable subversion support in konqueror I am compiling it from source I have full kde trunk on my system
[03:23] <augustin> non français
[03:23] <augustin> how doi i to install vlc?
[03:25] <sorteal> augustin : sudo apt-get install vlc  from konsole
[03:26] <augustin> sorry, but i tried but it not work
[03:27] <sorteal> augustin : when you try what does apt report back to you?
[03:28] <augustin> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet vlc
[03:29] <sorteal> augustin : Have you tried through KPackageKit? You may have another program installed that vlc will break if it's installed.
[03:30] <augustin>  E: Impossible to find the package vlc
[03:32] <augustin> what can i do to cure it ?thank you
[03:33] <sorteal> You can try the instructions to add the most recent ppa for vlc to your sources at this site https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[03:34] <duryodhan> hi .. I installed stuff from the kubuntu-beta ppa , now if I want to go back to the kubuntu-updates ppa ; is there any way I can do that ?
[03:34] <sorteal> Then retry sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:40] <sorteal> augustin : Sorry that my French sucks.
[03:41] <sorteal> augustin : I'm American...enough said lol :)
[03:52] <augustin>  <sorteal> i did that but it not works
[03:52] <augustin> it needs plugins .. i think but i dont know how to do
[03:53] <sorteal> augustin : Did apt report the same thing as before?
[03:53] <ioob> hey all, i've got a raid1 NTFS array that spans two SATA drives. It was created under Windows, and I'd like to mount it in Kubuntu, but it appears as two logical disks in Dolphin. Any idea how I can join them together?
[03:55] <augustin> you mean that  i've to do that again?
[03:55] <sorteal> I mean did it say it was impossible to find?
[03:56] <scunizi> sorteal: most likely he's not connecting to the repos
[03:56] <sorteal> That's what I'm thinking that why I asked that
[03:57] <augustin> but why i'can not find plugins vlc..on graphic ?
[03:57] <scunizi> can you guide him on how to have kpackagekit pick a different set of repos? I don't know kde well enough
[04:01] <sorteal> augustin : Do the repos report back when you type sudo apt-get update?
[04:03] <augustin> repos repport?
[04:04] <augustin> excuse me i didn't undrstood
[04:04] <sorteal> Your fine
[04:04] <sorteal> What happens when you type sudo apt-get update?
[04:04] <augustin> can you give me command?
[04:05] <sorteal> In english it's "sudo apt-get update"  Again sorry my French is so bad.
[04:05] <augustin> he said me : E: Impossible to find the package vlc
[04:06] <sorteal> No not sudo apt-get install vlc just type "sudo apt-get update"
[04:06] <augustin> no probleme sorteal
[04:06] <sorteal> Hmm
[04:07] <augustin> i did that also
[04:07] <augustin> bash: sudo apt-get update : commande introuvable
[04:08] <sorteal> Okay
[04:09] <ioob> Does anybody know how to set up a RAID1 array in Kubuntu? I have an existing one that was built in hardware under Windows Vista, and it is showing up as two separate disks in Dolphin
[04:10] <augustin> sorteal> that means : bash: sudo apt-get update : untraceable order
[04:10] <sorteal> Try going through this site and see if any of the trouble shooting will help. http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic#Kubuntu_Package_Installation_and_Updates  If not try asking your question in this forum group  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php  These are mainly English forums but someone should be able to help if all else fails
[04:11] <sorteal> augustin : Can you even get online?  Is that what your in IRC on?
[04:12] <augustin> yes
[04:13] <sorteal> Okay just checking. Try those sites. I have to go I'm very sorry I couldn't be more help. Hopefully someone on that forum will be able to help you more than I.
[04:15] <augustin> sorteal> no probleme, it's too late here , i am so tired also!! but i thank you for trying
[04:16] <augustin> have merry christmas ans happy new year everybody
[04:16] <augustin> bye
[04:18] <ioob> hey all, does anybody know how to configure a RAID1 array on Kubuntu? I have a hardware RAID1 NTFS array that contains two SATA drives. It was created on Vista, and I've recently replaced it with Kubuntu. Now I can see the RAID, but it appears as two separate disks
[04:25] <ioob> also, i have a dual monitor display, and i'd like to put a different desktop on each monitor, so that they each have their own panel where minimized windows show up. Any idea how i can map a desktop to a monitor?
[04:58] <Poman> ioob: you may not have a real "hardware" raid controller, look into mdadm and software raid under linux.
[04:59] <ioob> Poman, I've installed mdadm but i'm not sure how to use it. Is there a way to identify what disk you're looking at in Dolphin? Like sda1 or sdb or whatever?
[05:00] <Poman> ioob, if you have them mounted, then "mount"
[05:01] <ioob> Poman, one of my drives is sda, and the other is sdb. They are both NTFS. can i use mdadm to join them into a RAID1 array without losing the data on them?
[05:02] <Poman> ioob, doubt it.  certainly don't try anything without some form of backup.
[05:03] <ioob> Poman, alright, i'm going to migrate as much as i can onto another disk overnight then. thanks for your help
[05:04] <Poman> ioob, search the ubuntu forums for usage, that's where i found the easiest info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461
[05:06] <ioob> Poman, thanks. I'll read through that and the man pages tomorrow and try to figure this out
[05:22] <yousef> hello?
[05:24] <yousef> I just upgraded to 9.10 but I'm trying to figure out why aplay hangs
[05:54] <Izinucs> Is webdav supported in Kontact's Calendar?
[05:54] <gkffcsk> Hey all, is there a native kde midi player/editor?
[06:01] <josh_> my computer is saying errors when i try to install apps
[06:03] <sober> whats up guys
[06:07] <supersub> hi does anyone know the link for the 9.10 live download?
[06:10] <josh_> can someone help me out?
[06:10] <maco> can you be more specific
[06:17] <josh_> well when i in stall something it says some errors like i have broken dependencies
[06:20] <josh_> how do i fix it?
[06:24] <funcrush> hi all, how can i install java 1.4?? i can't find package
[06:25] <Ouarza> Hello,
[06:25] <Ouarza> I'd like to save the accounts of kmail. Just the accounts because I'm imap. How?
[06:26] <et_> funcrush: Java 1.4 is, I think, no longer supported. I believe you can specially request old versions of Java from Sun Microsystems.
[06:26] <funcrush> et_: thanks :)
[06:27] <et_> Ouarza: save them for/from what?
[06:28] <Ouarza> et_: Je souhaite réinstaller kubuntu, et j'ai besoin de faire une sauvegarde des paramétres de kmail, pas des mails, juste des comptes et configuration.
[06:29] <Ouarza> et_: I want to reinstall kubuntu, and I need to backup settings kmail, no emails, just accounts and configuration.
[06:30] <r4v3nsw0rd> hello, I need help interpreting the instructions provided on the link in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1280617 to get wacom settings to stick after a reinstall
[06:30] <r4v3nsw0rd> errr, reboot
[06:31] <Ouarza> et_: ?
[06:31] <et_> What you can do is make a copy of your /home/username/.kde/share/apps/kmail directory. That should preserve your settings. If you want to save your passwords too, also backup the kwallet directory
[06:32] <Ouarza> use the command cp -R ?
[06:33] <Ouarza> I don't use the appli Kwallet
[06:33] <et_> If you want. You can also use Dolphin (alt + . shows hidden folders).
[06:34] <Ouarza> et_: et c'est un moyen sur? ça va marcher?
[06:35] <dwayne> hey maco i finished machinarium
[06:36] <maco> josh_: can you copy it into paste.ubuntu.com?
[06:36] <et_> It has worked for me in the past. I usually backup my whole .kde directory when I do a reinstall. That saves all my settings.
[06:37] <josh_> i need help with broken dependencies
[06:37] <maco> josh_: paste the errors about the dependencies into paste.ubuntu.com then give me the link
[06:38] <josh_> ok
[06:39] <Ouarza> et_: cp: ne peut créer le fichier régulier `/home/mathieu/Bureau/sauvkmail/kmail/mail/.trash.directory/Sauv Orange/cur/1255880696.5855.wjVV5:2,RS': Permission non accordée
[06:40] <Ouarza> et_: sudo cp -R /home/mathieu/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ /home/mathieu/Bureau/sauvkmail/
[06:41] <josh_> well il past what it says in konsol
[06:42] <Ouarza> josh_: ??
[06:42] <et_> Ouarza: You should save it to an external hard drive or USB flash drive, just to be save
[06:42] <et_> Ouarza: You should save it to an external hard drive or USB flash drive, just to be safe
[06:46] <Ouarza> et_: sudo cp -R /home/mathieu/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ /media/OUARZAKEY/
[06:46] <Ouarza> ??
[06:47] <et_> Ouarza: oui
[06:47] <josh_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/345169/
[06:47] <Ouarza> et_: speak french?
[06:48] <et_> Ouarza: un peu, not enough to get by.
[06:48] <tsimpson> !fr
[06:48] <Ouarza> et_: j'ai les meme erreur
[06:48] <Ouarza> tsimpson: pfff !
[06:48] <Ouarza> et_: meme erreur, faut bien faire un cp -R??
[06:49] <Ouarza> et_: same error, must do a cp-R?
[06:52] <Ouarza> ???
[06:52] <et_> Oh, I see. It doesn't like the trash folder. See if you can delete the .trash and try again.
[06:54] <Ouarza> et_: ok
[06:55] <et_> Ouarza: it worked?
[06:55] <Ouarza> I test
[06:55] <Ouarza> et_: no: cp: ne peut créer le fichier régulier `/media/OUARZAKEY/kmail/mail/sent-mail/cur/1257443763.2077.eFqMZ:2,S': Argument invalide
[06:57] <et_> Is Kmail currently open?
[06:57] <Ouarza> et_: no !
[06:57] <et_> Just checking
[06:58] <tsimpson> it's probably that whatever filesystem /media/OUARZAKEY is can't handle file names like that
[06:59] <Ouarza> I rebuilt and I had only 2 errors, I'll stop there.
[07:00] <et_> A USB key is probably FAT32. EXT2/3/4 might solve the problem, if tsimpson is correct.
[07:01] <Ouarza> sudo cp -R /home/mathieu/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ /home/mathieu/Bureau/sauvkmail/
[07:01] <Ouarza> same error
[07:05] <et_> Let's try a different method. Open Ark, create a new tar.gz and add the kmail folder to it.
[07:09] <Ouarza> et_: yes is good by Ark
[07:09] <Ouarza> Thank
[07:09] <Ouarza> bonne journée ;)
[07:09] <et_> Any time.
[07:15] <arma_grada> how do i disable that box om the destop showing all the icon?
[07:16] <maco> right click on desktop -> unlock widgets
[07:16] <maco> then put your mouse on the folder view widget and itll get a bar on the side of it. click the X on that bar
[07:16] <maco> arma_grada: ^
[07:17] <arma_grada> maco, will the icons then be displayed as in gnome?
[07:17] <maco> arma_grada: um right click -> desktop settings; type: folderview (instead of deskop)
[07:18] <maco> hasta starts with an h, astalavista
[07:19] <astalavista> maco, its ma style
[07:19] <monsiuer> maco, isn't monsiuer french for mister?
[07:19] <maco> when spelled properly, yes
[07:20] <maco> monsieur
[07:20] <monsieur> oops
[07:20] <monsieur> maco, its registered :(
[07:35] <et_> use /nick et()
[07:51] <Oxycrest> Hi all
[07:55] <shiv> register
[08:01] <giuseppe_> salve a tutti
[08:03] <Oxycrest> can someone help me to install thunderbird 3 ?
[08:04] <Oxycrest> I have the 2nd version
[08:04] <Oxycrest> and the 3rd is not in apt
[08:04] <Oxycrest> I don't find any .deb package
[08:05] <giuseppe_> i have a problem to install ubuntu 9.10 on ald pc
[08:07] <Oxycrest> 240 users and no response... :s
[08:12] <Oxycrest> can someone help me to install thunderbird 3 ?
[08:13] <Kage> Oxycrest: hey
[08:13] <Oxycrest> hi
[08:14] <Oxycrest> a human sign !
[08:14] <Oxycrest> I'm french
[08:14] <Kage> Oxycrest: is thunderbird 3 not in the ubuntu repos?
[08:14] <Oxycrest> I've thunderbird 2
[08:15] <Oxycrest> When I try to update it,it says it's up to date
[08:16] <||arifaX> I have to make freespace on /boot (remove old kernels) how can I do this savely?
[08:17] <Kage> Oxycrest: ok... where do you live?
[08:17] <Oxycrest> Lyon, why ?
[08:18] <Kage> Oxycrest: I need to select a mirror close to you
[08:18] <Oxycrest> Lyon, in France
[08:19] <Kage> Oxycrest: I assume you would prefer the "French" language of TB3?
[08:19] <Oxycrest> If it's possible
[08:19] <Oxycrest> but I can install the french langage after
[08:19] <Oxycrest> as I do for TB2
[08:20] <Kage> Oxycrest: download this: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-3.0rc2&os=linux&lang=fr
[08:20] <Oxycrest> ok
[08:20] <Oxycrest> it's done
[08:22] <Oxycrest> I have already try this, but I don't know how to replace TB2 by TB3 by this way
[08:22] <Kage> Oxycrest: ok... how extract the archive somewhere in your /home/<user>
[08:22] <Oxycrest> ok
[08:22] <Oxycrest> it's done
[08:23] <Kage> Oxycrest: you'll have to uninstall 2
[08:23] <Oxycrest> ok
[08:23] <Kage> Oxycrest: do sudo apt-get remove --purge thunderbird
[08:24] <Oxycrest> my old emails and others won't be deleted ?
[08:24] <Kage> no
[08:24] <Oxycrest> ok
[08:24] <Oxycrest> thanks a lot for your help
[08:25] <Kage> now...
[08:25] <Kage> browse to /home/<user>/thunderbird
[08:26] <Oxycrest> yes
[08:26] <Kage> hold on... I need to make you a .desktop file
[08:40] <Kage> Oxycrest: almost done
[08:43] <Oxycrest> It runs thanks
[08:43] <Oxycrest> I leave
[08:43] <Oxycrest> bye
[08:44] <Kage> ...
[09:26] <supersub> hEY GUYS does anyone know where i can download the non installable version of ubuntu 9.10?
[09:26] <supersub> Please help!!!!
[09:32] <supersub> Can anyone help me please....!!!
[09:32] <dima> hez guzs i have an question is someone german here?
[09:33] <dima> hey guys*
[09:35] <supersub> Can anyone help with this boot up problem?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/343915/
[09:37] <r00t_ninja> does anyone get this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/495763
[09:42] <supersub> Hey Guys I really need someones / anyones help with this boot up issue..   http://paste.ubuntu.com/343915/
[09:43] <kaddi> hi. which package would I need to install to get the dev packages of nspluginviewer?
[09:45] <r00t_ninja> kaddi: could you paste your /etc/fstab
[09:45] <kaddi> r00t_ninja: what for?
[09:46] <Kage> supersub: looks like you deleted your hardrive, or at least messed up your fstab
[09:46] <supersub> yeah im not sure how it happend but my niece was doing something and I found my system in this state the next day,,,
[09:47] <m4rtin> supersub: do "sudo blkid" to find the HDDs UUID and add an FSTAB line that incorporates it
[09:48] <supersub> ehy i just booted with a kubuntu live disk any way of doing this way?
[09:48] <supersub> hey**
[09:49] <Kage> supersub: you should had created a user for her, and not given out your main account/sudoer password :P
[09:49] <Kage> supersub: then she couldn't possibly mess it up
[09:49] <supersub> my bad for leaving it on...
[09:50] <kaddi> If I want to do a bugreport with a sensible trace for nspluginviewer, which package do I need? Konqueror-plugins-dev doesn't seem to exist
[09:50] <supersub> and yes she does have a username but when im logged in its convinient
[09:51] <supersub> So what are my option here, should I reboot and get to the (initramfs) _ prompt first?
[09:53] <Kage> supersub: go into the live CD
[09:53] <Kage> and see if you can mount your harddrives
[09:53] <Kage> if you can't then likely all your data is gone
[09:53] <supersub> ok gime a sec
[09:53] <Kage> if you can, then pastebin your /etc/fstab
[09:55] <supersub> Kage: does it matter if im using the kubuntu CD on Ububntu " I hope this is not a stupid question but i dont want to make it worse"
[09:55] <Tommy\DO> Hi. Which package do I need for getting the "Share" (on network) dialog in dolphin to work?
[09:56] <simion314> jow can i find how much Mb of memory has my video card?
[09:57] <simion314> sorry i meant HOW?
[09:57] <Kage> simion314: type lspci and have fun
[09:57] <Kage> supersub: no, it doesn't matter
[09:58] <supersub> kage: Tried to mount but not sure if it worked
[09:58] <Tommy\DO> simion314: lspci -v
[09:58] <supersub> kage: a nit of a novice with this..
[09:59] <Kage> what did you do?
[10:00] <supersub> kage: the only thing it shows it volume (ext3) and ask me to add a description..
[10:00] <supersub> not sure if this is right?
[10:01] <simion314> thx all, it helped me
[10:09] <supersub> Kage: what should I try?
[10:10] <Kage> supersub: first pastebin the results of ls -l /dev/sd*
[10:10] <soee> hi
[10:11] <Kage> hi
[10:11] <supersub> ok gime a sec
[10:17] <supersub> kage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/345249/
[10:18] <Kage> supersub: good, your partition table seems to be in tack
[10:18] <Kage> supersub: do you know what partition your kubuntu install is on?
[10:18] <supersub> kage: Cool. good news
[10:19] <supersub> no but im just running it off the cd at the moment..
[10:19] <Kage> supersub: your CD is on another device
[10:19] <Kage> supersub: you have windows installed?
[10:19] <supersub> kage: no
[10:20] <Kage> :\
[10:20] <supersub> kage: only ubuntu 9.10
[10:20] <Kage> I guess we try them all
[10:20] <Kage> type: sudo -s
[10:20] <supersub> kage: ok
[10:20] <Kage> now do this command:
[10:21] <supersub> kage: #
[10:21] <Kage> mkdir /mnt/sda1/ /mnt/sda2 /mnt/sda5
[10:22]  * Kage suspects sda5 is your swap
[10:22] <supersub> kage: ok #
[10:22] <supersub> kage: done that but not sure which is my swap.
[10:23] <Kage> supersub: now type:   mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 && mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[10:26] <supersub> kage: message mount: wrong fd type, bad option, bad super block on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helpder program
[10:27] <supersub> kage: typo wrong fd type..
[10:27] <supersub> fs type
[10:27] <Kage> :(
[10:28] <Kage> try:   mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 && mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[10:30] <supersub> kage: ok it says..  mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:32] <Kage> supersub: try:
[10:32] <Kage> wait... what version of kubuntu are you running?
[10:33] <supersub> no im runing ubuntu 9.10
[10:34] <Kage> ....
[10:34]  * Kage wonders why your asking for help in #kubuntu...
[10:34] <Kage> anyways!
[10:34] <Kage> did you do a fresh install of 9.10 or did you upgrade from a older version?
[10:35] <supersub> kage: i upgraded from an earlier version
[10:36] <supersub> kage 8.04 lts
[10:36] <Kage> ok!
[10:36] <Kage> try this:
[10:36] <Kage> mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[10:38] <supersub> kage: mount /sda already mounted or /mnt/sda1 busy
[10:38] <supersub> kage: mount /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/sda1 busy
[10:38] <Kage> try: umount /dev/sda1
[10:39] <Kage> then try to mount it again
[10:40] <supersub> kage: No command 'unmount' found, did you mean: command 'umount' from package 'mount' (main)
[10:41] <Kage> you typed unmount...
[10:41] <Kage> I gave you umount... no n
[10:41] <supersub> ok sorry..
[10:41] <supersub> kage: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[10:42] <Kage> Grrrrrr.... try mounting it again
[10:42] <supersub> kage:  this command mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1?
[10:42] <Kage> yes
[10:43] <supersub> kage: same as before mount /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/sda1 busy
[10:43] <Kage> type: lsof /mnt/sda1
[10:44] <supersub> kage: lsof: warning: can't start() tmpfs file system /cow.. output information may be incomplete.
[10:45] <Kage> do ls /mnt
[10:45] <tomasz> hi :) ... how can i install latest beta package of KDE in kubuntu with aptitude?
[10:46] <Kage> tomasz: you can't
[10:47] <tomasz> Kage: i have to compile it?
[10:47] <supersub> kage: ok sda1 sda2 sda5 all appeared in a purple color..
[10:47] <soee> tomasz: no :)
[10:47] <Kage> tomasz: unless you can find a binary package
[10:47] <Kage> purple ^_-
[10:47] <soee> tomasz just follow kubuntu.org info
[10:48] <Kage> supersub: pastebin ls -l /mnt
[10:48] <tomasz> Kage: ok, i'll try to find it ;)
[10:48] <tomasz> soee: ok, thx :)
[10:49] <tomasz> soee: there is it :) thx ;)
[10:49] <soee> yup
[10:49] <soee> just type .. dist-upgrade not dist-uprade :)
[10:50] <supersub> kage:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/345265/
[10:50] <Kage> supersub: ok... do this:   umount /dev/sda
[10:51] <tomasz> and how can i disable screensaver and monitor energy saver on fullscreen apps? ... I found, that it should be done in latest beta of KDE
[10:51] <Kage> tomasz: we don't support latest KDE here... ask #kde
[10:52] <supersub> kage: umount: /dev/sda: not mounted
[10:52] <tomasz> Kage: so, what about current version of KDE?
[10:52] <Kage> tomasz: I have no idea, and it looks like I am the only help here at the time... so.... maybe ask #kde
[10:53] <tomasz> Kage: ok, i take it, thanks for you help
[10:54] <Kage> supersub: :(
[10:54] <Peace-> Hi :)
[10:55] <supersub> kage: hard one...
[10:55] <Kage> supersub: try mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2
[10:55] <dfaure> if I want to compile a kernel with the same options as the default kubuntu one, where can I find the right .config file?
[10:55] <Peace-> dfaure: read debian documentation ...
[10:55] <Peace-> dfaure: i have read ..
[10:55] <Peace-> one time but dfaure my 2 cent would suggest to don't compile a kernel
[10:56] <Peace-> just becasue the difference is very little
[10:56] <Peace-> on speed
[10:56] <dfaure> I have already done it in the past, and I need to do that in order to test whether the inotify bug is fixed, its developer asked me to.
[10:56] <ghostcube> dfaure: you can just run an mainline kernel
[10:56] <supersub> kage: mount: wrong fs type, bad option...... do you want the whole message?
[10:56] <dfaure> this isn't about speed ;)
[10:56] <Kage> supersub: no... thats fine :(
[10:56] <dfaure> I'm a kde developer and I'm investigating the inotify bug
[10:56] <Peace-> mmm
[10:56] <dfaure> I would just like to know where to find the kernel config used by kubuntu ;)
[10:56] <Peace-> i have to eat
[10:57] <ghostcube> dfaure: yeah and so if you run an 2.6.32.rc1 from mainline ubuntu ppa
[10:57] <ghostcube> it will show you
[10:57] <Peace-> bug if you google
[10:57] <Kage> dfaure: I think its in /boot
[10:57] <dfaure> the fix isn't in 2.6.32.
[10:57] <Peace-> debian kernel compile you should find a tuttorial
[10:57] <dfaure> he gave me a git url for a 2.6.33 branch
[10:57] <ghostcube> dfaure: wheere is the fix ?
[10:57] <ghostcube> oh ok
[10:57] <ghostcube> o.o
[10:57] <dfaure> Kage: thanks!
[10:57] <dfaure> it's there indeed.
[11:01] <Kage> supersub: try:   fsck /dev/sda1
[11:02] <Kage> it may take awhile
[11:02] <supersub> kage:  its doing something...
[11:03] <Kage> fsck = File System ChecK
[11:03] <supersub> Kage: Inode 2114203 is in use, but has dtime set. fix<y>?
[11:03] <Kage> its making sure your filesystem isn't corrupted, and if it is, it will attempt to fix it
[11:04] <Kage> type y
[11:04] <supersub> kage to all of them?
[11:04] <Kage> yes
[11:04] <Kage> if you want, you can control+c
[11:04] <Kage> then run this command:  yes | fsck
[11:04] <supersub> kage: how about imagic flag set?
[11:05] <Kage> fix them all
[11:06] <supersub> kage: it looks like its working...
[11:07] <Kage> :)
[11:07] <supersub> kage: i take it this is good...
[11:07] <dfaure> Kage: fsck -y   is the normal way of doing it ;)
[11:07] <Kage> unless it says it can't fix something... its good
[11:08] <Kage> dfaure: they always say yes when I wanna fsck :P
[11:09] <Kage> </endjoke nature="
[11:09] <dfaure> lucky you
[11:09] <Kage> </endjoke nature="Old joke about the similarity between fsck and fuck">
[11:10] <dfaure> explaining a joke always ruins it, I got it before ;)
[11:10] <supersub> kage: its still running,,
[11:12] <Tesssa> #lubuntu
[11:15] <Kage> dfaure: Im not lucky... I just have a gallon Chloroform
[11:15]  * dfaure decides to get out of that discussion fast ;)
[11:15] <Kage> lol
[11:24] <Kage> supersub: done yet?
[11:24] <supersub> kage: still running...
[11:25] <supersub> kage: it says pass 1: checking indes, blocks and sizes
[11:25] <Kage> ok
[11:27] <soee> check this: http://pastebin.com/d329e448e i found this code to put into .asoundrc to get 5.1 sound. It works, however after this change (in .asoundrc) i can have sound only in 1 program  - if i run 2 players at the same time with some music etc. only one of them have sound, any ideas how to fix it ?
[11:27] <Kage> supersub: did your niece shutdown the machine correctly?  or what?
[11:28] <supersub> I dont think she did...
[11:28] <Kage> supersub: that could be the reason your having trouble
[11:28] <Kage> supersub: if we are lucky, this will fix your problem and you'll be able to boot normally
[11:29] <supersub> fantastic.. really apprciate your help
[11:30] <Kage> (unless its a deeper problem.... like she took the harddrive out and played teaparty with it)
[11:31] <Kage> soee: don't use asound
[11:31] <Kage> soee: use alsa or pulse
[11:31] <supersub> kage: lets hope not..
[11:31] <soee> Kage: istn .asoundrc part of alsa ?
[11:32] <Kage> errrr... it might be... hold on
[11:32] <soee> Kage: i think its configuration file of ALSA
[11:33] <Kage> no, it seems asound is a driver for certain cards
[11:33] <Kage> soee: nvm your correct
[11:34] <Kage> soee: ummmm so you tried to write your own .asoundrc file?
[11:34] <soee> Kage: no just pasted code fromo some forum
[11:34] <Kage> soee: remove the file
[11:34] <Kage> according to the ALSA website
[11:34] <Kage> "Neither .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf is normally required. You should be able to play and record sound without either (assuming your mic and speakers are hooked up properly). If your system won't work without one, and you are running the most current version of ALSA, you probably should file a bug report."
[11:38] <soee> Kage: yes but its not @ playing or recording but geting 5.1 sound :)
[11:39] <soee> also i have found this: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Playing_stereo_on_surround_sound_setup_%28Howto%29
[11:40] <Kage> soee: ... honestly... I don't know... then.... you might have better luck in #alsa or #ubuntu or maybe alsa has a forum you can post on
[11:41] <soee> oks :)
[11:43] <Kage> supersub: still ticking?
[11:48] <jtheuer> do you know a konqueror plugin or standalone app which displays an xml document nicely formatted?
[11:50] <Kage> jtheuer: kate?
[12:01] <Kage> supersub: you still alive?
[12:03] <supersub> still pressing <y>
[12:05] <supersub> kage: just finish...
[12:05] <Kage> lol
[12:06] <supersub> kage: should i reboot?
[12:06] <Kage> supersub: sorry, I should had thought ahead of time to do  yes | fsck  or   fsck -y
[12:06] <Kage> supersub: go ahead :)
[12:06] <supersub> kage: Here we go...
[12:06] <Kage> supersub: and pray in what ever deity you believe in
[12:07] <supersub> kage: the moment of truth..
[12:08]  * Kage crosses fingers
[12:09] <Kage> the anticipation is killing me
[12:09] <supersub> just rebooted again hold on...
[12:10] <supersub> ok does not look good...
[12:10] <franta> Hi there! I have problems with sound in 9.10 ... it keeps popping which is quit annoying ... anyone has same problems ?
[12:11] <Kage> supersub: what does it say?
[12:11] <supersub> Kage:  mount of root filesystem failed..6.31-14-386 a maintenance shell will now be started.  Control D will terminate this shell and reboot he system
[12:11] <supersub> give root password for mantenance type 0x83
[12:12] <supersub> Hacker11!
[12:12] <supersub> type..
[12:12] <supersub> sorry
[12:13] <Kage> supersub: :(
[12:13] <Kage> supersub: this sucks...
[12:13] <supersub> Kage: it now asking for a root password for maintenance but will not accept it...
[12:13] <Kage> supersub: try leaving it blank
[12:13] <supersub> nothing
[12:14] <supersub> any other ideas?
[12:14] <Kage> supersub: well.... I got really    really..... really..................... bad news....
[12:14] <supersub> ok shoot me in the head...
[12:14] <Kage> supersub: first off: I hope you have backed up your data
[12:15] <supersub> ok NO...
[12:15] <supersub> Can i slave my HDD to a working version of linux and get my data?
[12:15] <Kage> supersub: that is basicilly what we did with a liveCD
[12:16] <Kage> supersub: go back to the live cd, and see if you can in some chance.... mount /dev/sda1
[12:16] <supersub> ok any other options?
[12:16] <Kage> supersub: Ummmm... maybe
[12:17] <Kage> first lets see if you can mount it though a live CD
[12:17] <franta> maybe boot to livecd and chroot to installation?
[12:17] <supersub> ok will reboot from the live cd
[12:17] <Kage> franta: he is having problems even mounting the drive
[12:17] <franta> oh..ok
[12:17] <supersub> kage: brb its booting
[12:20] <supersub> Kage: Almost there
[12:22] <supersub> kage: cannot mount /dev/sda1
[12:22] <supersub> cant find it to be exact
[12:23] <manjula> i have a intel 82G33/G31 Express onboard graphic card and after i installed ubunut 9.10 i am unable to get in to  1024×768 	resolution or higher. can some one help me ?
[12:23] <Kage> you need to do mkdir /mnt/sda1 again
[12:24] <supersub> ok cannot create directory ' /mnt/sda1' permission denied.
[12:25] <Kage> supersub: try mkdir /media/sda1
[12:25] <supersub> again permission denied..
[12:25] <Kage> oh... duh
[12:25] <Kage> do sudo -s
[12:26] <supersub> ok
[12:26] <Kage> then do mkdir /mnt/sda1
[12:27] <supersub> kage: cannot create directory
[12:27] <Kage> it work?
[12:27] <supersub> permission denied
[12:27] <Kage> then do mkdir /media/sda1
[12:27] <Kage> errr....
[12:27] <supersub> file exists
[12:27] <Kage> are you logged in as root now?
[12:28] <supersub> root is hash right?
[12:28] <Kage> yes
[12:28] <supersub> ok done.
[12:29] <Kage> then do mkdir /media/sda1
[12:29] <supersub> kage:done
[12:29] <Kage> then:  mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1                 -- and pray
[12:29] <supersub> sorry made a type
[12:30] <Kage> ???
[12:30] <supersub> kage: it says file exists when i try and creat it as root.
[12:30] <Kage> supersub: do   ls /media/sda1/*
[12:31] <supersub> ls cannot access /media.sda1/* no such file or directory
[12:33] <Kage> not /media.sda1/*
[12:33] <Kage> /media/sda1/*
[12:34] <supersub> im typing ls /media/sda1/*
[12:35] <supersub> was a typo.. sorry
[12:35] <Kage> i see
[12:35] <Kage> do   mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[12:36] <supersub> mount point .mnt/sda1 does not exist.
[12:36] <Kage> mkdir /mnt/sda1
[12:36] <Kage> then try to mount it again
[12:37] <supersub> ok
[12:37] <supersub> ok that worked..
[12:37] <Kage> do ls /mnt/sda1/*
[12:37] <supersub> ok lots of colour..
[12:38] <Kage> supersub: do you see a "home/"
[12:38] <supersub> looking
[12:39] <supersub> kage: no
[12:40] <Kage> :o
[12:40] <Kage> pastebin the results of ls /mnt/sda1/*
[12:40] <Kage> color doesn't matter
[12:41] <jtheuer> Kage: can Kate format xml?
[12:41] <supersub> kage: ok...
[12:41] <supersub> Kage: I can see some files i downloaded.
[12:41] <Kage> jtheuer: what do you mean "format"
[12:42] <jtheuer> Kage, so actualy /know/ xml? ;-)
[12:42] <Kage> yes
[12:42] <jtheuer> you know that whitespaces are (mostly) ignored between elements?
[12:43] <Kage> yes....
[12:43] <jtheuer> and by adding \t or \n it is easier to read....
[12:43] <supersub> kage: how do i call a directory to view its contents?
[12:44] <jtheuer> i leave the rest up to your imagination, kage...
[12:44] <Kage> ls directory
[12:44] <supersub> okcannot access them for some reason.. where do we go from here?
[12:45] <Kage> some... reason....
[12:45] <Kage> does it give you a reason?
[12:45] <supersub> Kage: not pointing the finger..
[12:45] <supersub> I wish....
[12:46] <Kage> supersub: just TRY this:   cd /mnt/sda1/home && ls
[12:47] <supersub> ok two profiles administrator and my con..
[12:47] <manjula_> i have a intel 82G33/G31 Express onboard graphic card and after i installed ubuntu 9.10 i am unable to get in to  1024×768 	resolution or higher. can some one help me ?
[12:48] <Kage> supersub: do:   du -sh .
[12:48] <supersub> how do i go back a directory as i just did a ls administrator?
[12:48] <supersub> Kage: or this does not matter..
[12:48] <Kage> ls doesn't change your directory
[12:49] <Kage> it just lists the contents
[12:49] <franta> supersub: you change directories by cd , one directory back is cd ..
[12:49] <supersub> ok just did du -sh
[12:49] <supersub> kage: hdd is spinning..
[12:49] <Kage> press control+c quickly
[12:50] <supersub> kage: 144g
[12:50] <Kage> did you do "du -sh" or "du -sh ."
[12:51] <fumi> Hello all
[12:51] <supersub> du -sh without the dot.
[12:51] <Kage> add the dot
[12:51] <supersub> space dot?
[12:51] <fuma>
[12:51] <Kage> yes
[12:51] <Kage> or better yet...
[12:51] <Kage> do     du -sh *
[12:52] <supersub> Kage: it listed the two profiles
[12:52] <Kage> how big is each?
[12:52] <supersub> or two users
[12:52] <supersub> kage: one is 137g and the other is 7.1g
[12:53] <Kage> supersub: don't happen to have a >=150GB external HDD?
[12:53] <supersub> mmmm... KMART is open thanks to Chrismas shopping i guess...
[12:53] <supersub> not far for me to get to...
[12:54] <Kage> supersub: it would make things a lot faster
[12:54] <supersub> but i have one hany
[12:54] <Kage> is it empty?
[12:54] <supersub> hold on just remembered i have one from work i check the size gime a sec...
[12:55] <Kage> or have at least 150GB free
[12:57] <supersub> kage: i have a 440g drive available for use.. sorry KMART no sale..
[12:59] <supersub> Kage: I'm ready to rock.. tell me what we need to do to save my data...
[12:59] <Kage> supersub: ok.... plug in the external HDD
[13:00] <supersub> kage: connected...
[13:00] <Kage> do dmesg | tail -5
[13:00] <Kage> and pastebin the lines
[13:01] <Kage> brb... gottopee
[13:02] <Kage> back
[13:04] <supersub> Kage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/345317/
[13:04] <Kage> supersub: ok... now do:   mkdir /mnt/sdb1 && mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[13:06] <supersub> mount:mount point /mnt/sbd1 does not exist
[13:08] <supersub> kage:mount:mount point /mnt/sbd1 does not exist
[13:08] <Kage> supersub: do:   mkdir /mnt/sdb1
[13:08] <supersub> ok that worked
[13:08] <Kage> then....   mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[13:10] <supersub> kage: mount special device /dev/sbda1 does not exist..
[13:10] <Kage> type the command again
[13:11] <supersub> kage:  it worked
[13:11] <Kage> :P
[13:11] <Kage> now.... to save ya data
[13:11] <Kage> simply do this:
[13:12] <Kage> tar -czf /mnt/sdb1/backup.tar.gz /mnt/sda1/home/*
[13:12] <Kage> may take awhile... you got a lot of data
[13:14] <supersub> kage: tar: removing leading / from member names...
[13:14] <supersub> usb drive is flashing...
[13:14] <Kage> :)
[13:16] <supersub> kage: I think i want to install Kubuntu instead of ubuntu..  i like the interface looks much nicer to use...
[13:16] <Kage> supersub: and the support channel is much better too... huh?
[13:17] <Kage> :P
[13:17] <Kage> I honestly can't see how anything gets done in #ubuntu
[13:17] <supersub> kage: this is the only support channel i have ever used
[13:17] <supersub> this is default for me for some reason..
[13:18] <Kage> supersub: because you use konversation
[13:18] <supersub> i c..
[13:18] <Kage> konversation is a KDE app
[13:18] <Kage> if you were to use xchat the default would be #ubuntu
[13:18] <supersub> Kage:  even though there was a stuff up i'll never move back to ms products..
[13:19] <Kage> :)
[13:19] <supersub> kage: i've been running this machine for a long time and this is the first major issue i've had, i've even converted some friends who now see the light..
[13:21] <Kage> supersub: I encourage you to explore the command line more.... maybe by a book about the basic commands.... they can really come in handy
[13:21] <Kage> supersub: unlike DoS, bash is much more powerful... and is even easier to use once you get the concepts down
[13:22] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[13:23] <supersub> kage: i love it, i'll look into buying a book..
[13:23] <Kage> :)
[13:24] <Kage> do we really need 3 floodbots?  ^_~
[13:25] <supersub> kage: gzip stdout: file too large
[13:26] <Kage> did it exit the command?
[13:26] <supersub> kage:: yes
[13:26] <supersub> back at root#
[13:27] <Kage> fine we will do it without the gunzip, use this command:   tar -cf /mnt/sdb1/backup.tar /mnt/sda1/home/*
[13:28] <supersub> kage: it running again.. let see how this goes..
[13:28] <Kage> supersub: what the z option does, is tells tar to compress the file
[13:29] <Kage> gunzip or gzip is simliar to the .zip files on windows
[13:29] <supersub> ok cool
[13:29] <Kage> there is also bunzip2
[13:29] <Kage> which has a MUCH higher compression ratio
[13:29] <Kage> but also takes longer to run
[13:29] <Kage> both in compressing and decompressing
[13:30] <Kage> the extension for these files are .bz2
[13:35] <supersub> kage: tar: /mnt/sdb1/backup.tar: wrote only 4095 of 10240 bytes ... tar: error is not recoverabl: exiting now
[13:37] <mrb> Hey.... i have Ubuntu 9.10 installed and then i installed Kubuntu from Synaptic.. everything is working fine But i only have this problem where KDE plasma freez and does nothing for like 2 or 3 mints and then it comes back!!! anyone can help me with that !?! thx in adanced
[13:37] <Kage> mrb: what applets are you running?  it might be them
[13:38] <mrb> Kage, i am only running the analog watch and the weatehr applet..
[13:38] <mrb> sorry weather !!
[13:38] <Kage> mrb: could be the weather applet
[13:39] <mrb> alright i will give it a try thanks alot
[13:39] <Kage> supersub: press arrow key, and press enter
[13:39] <Kage> supersub: problem with working with corrupted filesystems is... well.... sometimes they are corrupted
[13:40] <Kage> supersub: if it gives us that error again, we will have to find the file, and remove it
[13:48] <supersub> Kage: i'll try via dolphine and select the stuff i really need. there are other things that can be downloaded again if you know what i mean..
[13:48] <Kage> supersub: ok that works
[14:01] <simo_> hello world!!
[14:02] <simo_> how can i read the videos of quiecktime ?
[14:06] <dhananjay> hi all
[14:07] <supersub> Kage: I really apprciate all your help..  Looks like i got all the main files so i'm happy.. thanks heaps..
[14:16] <Kage> supersub: NP
[14:16] <Kage> supersub: BTW... my service charge is... lets see.... $460... but Ill give you a discount... $415 :)
[14:35] <stuq> anyone here running 4.4 beta2? (4.3.85)
[14:36] <stuq> i'm trying to figure out if strigi/nepomuk is even *supposed* to run yet
[14:37] <stuq> I keep getting "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server", but i'm not finding good info on how to fix the situation
[14:38] <JuJuBee_> My kate settings don't seem to stick.  I change them but when I close and restart kate, settings revert back to defaults.
[14:45] <stuq> JuJuBee_: make sure your permissions are correct in ~/.kde/share/apps/kate
[14:47] <JuJuBee_> stuq: I have rwx on everything inside off ~/.kde
[14:49] <stuq> hmm. ok.. kate has some screen elements that have a 'make persistent' on a right click, the other place that looks potentially useful for this is 'session management'
[14:49] <stuq> possible that you have to save your settings as a 'session'? - i'm just guessing
[14:50] <JuJuBee_> I never used to ... this started after a  clean install of 9.04  after finding out 9.10 is broken on my laptop.
[14:51] <Galvatron> I'm considering an upgrade from my 9.04 to 10.04 Alpha 1...
[14:51] <JuJuBee_> I have strange behavior since reinstall.... like using twinview with external monitor items launched from panel on laptop opeen on external screen.
[14:51] <Galvatron> Is it very unstable?
[14:55] <genii> Galvatron: 10.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:56] <Galvatron> OK ;)
[14:57] <stuq> ah, genii, ty - I was wondering where to go with my 'beta' ques.
[14:59] <JuJuBee_> stuq: purged kate and reinstalled working now...
[14:59] <JuJuBee_> although when I open from panel on laptop it still opens on external monitor.
[15:00] <stuq> JuJuBee_: excellent
[15:00] <memenode> ffs..
[15:00] <stuq> heh, I never expect mult. monitor setups to work without futzing
[15:00] <JuJuBee_> well, I wouldn't say excellent, but better
[15:01] <memenode> just this one non-feature makes me wanna switch to gnome.. geez
[15:01] <JuJuBee_> Prior to the reinstall, was working flawlessly without any futzing...
[15:01] <memenode> how many *dozens* of times do I need to "extract here"..
[15:15] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[15:18] <manjula> can any one please tell me how to make the changes made via xrandr permanent ?
[15:21] <JuJuBee_> Hey BluesKaj
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hi JuJuBee_
[15:25] <JuJuBee_> BluesKaj: you know anything about twinview?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee_, no, afraid not ..dunno what it does , dual heads ?
[15:26] <JuJuBee_> yes
[15:27] <JuJuBee_> nvidia control panel makes it easy to set up dual head.  Separate desktop and separate panels possible on each screen
[15:39] <LuciusMare> hello
[15:40] <LuciusMare> i have a multimedia keyboard,but they dont seem to work,amarok does not do anything. The system catches it,though,when i use xev,i get the keys,but i do not know how to assign actions to them.
[15:42] <rav_> hello. since last week, sometimes when I hover the mouse over the taskbar, everything closes and i'm sent back to the kdm login. it seems X server is crashing. is this happening to anyone?
[15:48] <SShredrection> hello
[15:48] <SShredrection> I have a problem
[15:49] <genii> SShredrection: A better description of your problem might help
[15:49] <SShredrection> i want to do a tunnel whith ssh everitime i start kubuntu
[15:50] <SShredrection> but ssh  question me the pasword everitime
[15:50] <rav_> where would i look for a log/backtrace for a xserver crash?
[15:50] <SShredrection> i start
[15:50] <SShredrection> no
[15:50] <SShredrection> my cuestion is
[15:51] <SShredrection> there are some way of telling ssh the pasword automatically
[15:51] <SShredrection> i tried to redirect like msdos
[15:51] <genii> SShredrection: I'd recommend looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Key-Based SSH Logins
[15:51] <BluesKaj> rav , do dmesg in the terminal to see what fails
[15:51] <SShredrection> ssh args < "file whith the password"
[15:52] <genii> Bah the url got truncated
[15:52] <rav_> BluesKaj: after it happens and I re-login?
[15:53] <genii> SShredrection: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys   section 2 about key-based. Then you don't need password
[15:54] <BluesKaj> rav_, no it's just a method of seeing logs
[15:54] <BluesKaj> what is your graphics card , rav_ ?
[15:55] <rav_> BluesKaj: i have a nvidia geforce
[15:55] <BluesKaj> geforce number ?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> rav_, lspci | grep VGA
[15:57] <rav_> BluesKaj: geforce 7150M
[15:57] <SShredrection> the problem is that i use key autentication ssh  request me the parshfrase
[15:58] <rav_> BluesKaj: here's the dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/345402/
[15:58] <BluesKaj> rav_, and you're on Karmic ?
[15:58] <rav_> BluesKaj: yes
[15:58] <SShredrection> i tryed ssh-add but only works when no reboot
[15:59] <LuciusMare> i have a multimedia keyboard,but they dont seem to work,amarok does not do anything. The system catches it,though,when i use xev,i get the keys,but i do not know how to assign actions to them.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> rav_, look in the package manager and type , nvidia-glx into search to see which driver is installed , or do you already know ?
[16:06] <rav_> BluesKaj: nvidia-glx-185
[16:08] <BluesKaj> rav_, and you're running a 32 bit kubuntu on a 64 bit processor , right ?
[16:08] <lukefeil> hi
[16:08] <rav_> BluesKaj: no, 64bit kubuntu on 64bit processor
[16:09] <lukefeil> i tri to create my own custom livecd
[16:09] <lukefeil> i follow en tutorial who use squashfs
[16:09] <lukefeil> but i'm asking myself "isn't it possible to use virtuabox"
[16:10] <BluesKaj> rav_, ok good , then we need to install the new nvidia-glx-190 driver
[16:10] <lukefeil> does anybody tried it already?
[16:10] <rav_> BluesKaj: i dont see it on the repositories
[16:14] <rav_> BluesKaj: i never had any problems with 173. would switching to that fix this?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> rav_, here is the procedure recommended by nvidia ,http://pastebin.ca/1724952
[16:15] <BluesKaj> make sure you've updated your sources.list
[16:16] <ghostcube> rav_: 190 glx is in ppa from the nvidia guys
[16:16] <ghostcube> vdpau ppa
[16:16] <rav_> BluesKaj: how do i get that repository?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> odd , I thought it was already available in the repos
[16:17] <ghostcube> https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[16:17] <ghostcube> here you go
[16:17] <ghostcube> they work iam using them on 9.10
[16:17] <ghostcube> 8600gt
[16:18] <rav_> so this resetting of X will be fixed by the new driver?
[16:19] <ghostcube> no idea only can tell you where to find the drivers :)
[16:19] <BluesKaj> ghostcube, thanks for the url
[16:19] <ghostcube> BluesKaj: np :)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> rav_, yes, add the pps to your sources.list follow the keyring instructions as well  then, you have to remove the old driver in the TTY first , then install trhe new one
[16:21] <BluesKaj> pps=ppa
[16:21] <wftl> I know there must be an FAQ somewhere, but Kontact is hung waiting for 'Starting Akonadi Server'. Suggestions?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> rav_, the 173 driver is too old for that card on karmic
[16:22] <wftl> As near as I can tell, every conceivable Akonadi package is loaded. No help though.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> yeah ghostcube I had that ppa URL listed in my bookmarks , but it didn't import into the new browser , I used that ppa for installing the 190 on my machine too
[16:23] <ghostcube> :)
[16:24] <BluesKaj> switched from chromium-browser to  chrome-beta
[16:24] <ghostcube> :) heh
[16:24] <ghostcube> ok guys i bbl :)
[16:35] <sjkwizard> hi!
[16:41] <lcb> hello. when booting i have several filesystems: <IP_ADDRESS> generic and recovery consol and then i still have also 2.6.31. 16, 15 and 14 with recovery consoles. do i need ... and if not how can i remove those? Also, while rebooting, the system prompts to choose one oh them; how can i bypass that?
[16:43] <lcb> oos, the first one is <IP_ADDRESS> and not 16.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> BBL ..time for my daily walk
[16:58] <dwayne> hello
[16:58] <LuciusMare> hi
[16:58] <soee> yo
[16:59] <dwayne> how can i download videos frm youtube
[16:59] <dwayne> with youtube-dl
[16:59] <LuciusMare> i searched manual pages for konsole,and i found this: --nomenubar - runs konsole iwthout toolbar.
[16:59] <LuciusMare> so i ran konsole --nomenubar
[16:59] <LuciusMare> it told me "unknown switch menubar"
[17:02] <dwayne> t_TM: how can I download youtube video with youtube-dl
[17:02] <Paddy_NI> dwayne: open a terminal and type either "man youtube-dl" or "youtube-dl --help" without the quotes
[17:03] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone know what the pin is for my phone to send files via bluetooth to my laptop?
[17:04] <dwayne> T_TM; yeah and then
[17:04] <RajD> GUYS PLZZZ HELP WITH SCREEN RESOLUTION RESET
[17:04] <RajD> PLZZZ
[17:04] <RajD> SOMEONE
[17:04] <RajD> ALL KUBUNTU GENIUSES
[17:04] <RajD> ?????
[17:05] <RajD> HELLO
[17:05] <RajD> PLZZZ
[17:05] <RajD> HELP
[17:05] <Paddy_NI> !stop | RajD
[17:05] <RajD> SORRY FOR THIS BUT
[17:05] <RajD> I M NEW TO KUBUNTU
[17:05] <RajD> AND INTERNET
[17:06] <Paddy_NI> At the moment RajD you are making yourself out to be the last person anyone wants to help
[17:06] <FloodBotK1> RajD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <Paddy_NI> !caps | RajD
[17:06] <RajD> sorry
[17:09] <ohay> is it possible to choose KDE 3.5 in the alternate-install CD ?
[17:09] <Paddy_NI> ohay: no.. although there is an unofficial ubuntu kde3.5
[17:10] <soee> can u tell me why 'gwenview' and  'kdegraphics-strigi-plugins' are blocked in updates ?
[17:10] <ohay> Paddy_NI: do you have the latest KDE installed?
[17:10] <Paddy_NI> ohay: Yes
[17:10] <Paddy_NI> ohay: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic
[17:10] <Paddy_NI> soee: install them manually
[17:10] <soee> Paddy_NI:  how ?
[17:11] <ohay> Paddy_NI: I mean, do you have the latest 4 flavour?
[17:11] <Paddy_NI> soee: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-strigi-plugins gwenview"
[17:11] <soee> ok Paddy_NI ill try
[17:12] <Paddy_NI> soee: dont type the quotes
[17:12] <Paddy_NI> ohay: I am using 4.4
[17:13] <ohay> Paddy_NI: do you know which version of kbluetooth it has?
[17:13] <Paddy_NI> ohay: not sure.. one sec
[17:33] <|sysop|> is there any issues with dbus in 9.10? under ppc?
[17:34] <|sysop|> dbus seems to be running but since I dont know that much about dbus I dont know how to troubleshoot it and was wondering before I went head first was I bumping up against a bug in kubuntu?
[17:38] <JuJuBee_> What do I need to install on Januty to get dvd playback to work?
[17:39] <franta> is someone here using that new kde 4.4 beta 2?
[17:41] <soee> franta: yes
[17:41] <franta> soee: is it usable ?:) I'd like to try it, but I can't afford to reinstall my laptop...:)
[17:43] <soee> franta: its usable but there are some annoying bugs like plasma crashes when closing system (knetworkmanager problem) - but finally system is closed :)
[17:44] <muesli> knetworkmanager... oh the hatred
[17:44] <franta> and there probably isn't and easy way to go back to 4.3.4 ...
[17:44] <franta> that would be really useful feature for apt ... to be able to take back at least last update
[17:44] <franta> :D
[17:45] <muesli> it's not that hard to revert really
[17:47] <franta> muesli: like remove entry from souces.list and update and...? reinstall kde-something..perhaps?
[17:48] <muesli> franta: yup kinda. remove the entry, remove kdelibs, reinstall kdelibs
[17:48] <muesli> it's probably easiest if you save an installed package list beofre the update and just revert to that afterwards
[17:49] <franta> hmm...maybe I'll try it... it's christmas after all :D
[17:50] <franta> and does anyone experience problems with sound like sudden popping and/or no sound at all ?
[17:50] <franta> that situation around pulse kinda sucks...
[17:51] <soee> franta sound works nice for me except i cant get 5.1 working with ALSA
[17:51] <kingfishr> I have two monitors, but on the second one there is no activity button, no wallpaper, i can't right-click on it...it's just black. Also, when I fullscreen a window on that monitor it pops back to my main monitor. (I'm using 9.10/4.4 beta). Ideas?
[17:56] <SShredrection> hi
[17:57] <SShredrection> i resoved the problem whith the keys
[17:57] <SShredrection> my cuestion is
[17:57] <SShredrection> how can i run an script automatically with user rights
[17:57] <SShredrection> how can i run an script automatically with user permissions?
[18:00] <genii> SShredrection: su -c "command" username-to-run-command-as
[18:00] <SShredrection> command in quotes?
[18:00] <genii> SShredrection: Yes
[18:01] <SShredrection> thanks genii
[18:02] <genii> SShredrection: If it makes files in users home dir or such, use also -l   (to simulate login envelope like where home dir is, etc)
[18:03] <christer_> how do i make Kopte show what i am listen on of Spotify.... is it possible?
[18:12] <Guest32638> hey all, I have a brand new install of Kubuntu. I restarted the machine, and my desktop is gone. Strange thing is, I have a cursor, and I can call up kRunner and launch any application on the system. But I don't have a desktop. Any ideas?
[18:13] <Guest32638> I've tried startx, and it says that X is already running
[18:13] <Guest32638> I've also launched kdm, but that didn't do anything at all
[18:15] <Guest32638> Anybody have any ideas why Kubuntu would launch with no desktop, but still be able to run programs through KRunner?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> plasma has crashed, Guest32638 , relogin and update/upgrade
[18:18] <BluesKaj> Guest32638, the same thing happened to me yesterday , that's how I solved it
[18:18] <Guest32638> BluesKaj, I am running 9.10, just installed yesterday. What should I upgrade to?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> there are intermittent upgrades to your OS , even tho it's supposed to be final
[18:19] <BluesKaj> always improving , so to speak
[18:20] <Guest32638> BluesKaj, ok, I am new to Kubuntu, but have Debian experience. I have a terminal in front of me. What is the package name that I need to update? apt-get install plasma?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:21] <OxDeadC0de> personally I'd do mv ~/.kde ~/.oldkde, then login again
[18:21] <genii> Guest32638: I'd try first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:21] <OxDeadC0de> if it's a problem with the plasma-desktop config file
[18:22] <Guest32638> OxDeadC0de, I'll try that. Right now I'm applying all of the Software Updates that are available through KPackageKit to see if it's a bug that's been fixed
[18:36] <Guest32638> OxDeadC0de, your method worked perfectly. Is there anything that I can do to avoid these problems in the future?
[18:37] <devilsadvocate> Guest32638, you could also have run 'plasma-desktop' from krunner
[18:38] <Guest32638> devilsadvocate, tried that, but it crashed when i did it with a bunch of errors
[18:39] <Guest32638> devilsadvocate, seems that OxDeadC0de was right and that i had messed up some config file
[18:39] <Guest32638> devilsadvocate, what im wondering is how i can avoid that problem in the future
[18:43] <cuznt> !quassell
[18:46] <TD-Linux> how stable is lucid going to be in the alpha?
[18:46] <TD-Linux> I'm on 8.04 right now but am tired of backporting things (also, HDD upgrade soon)
[18:47] <TD-Linux> ideally I would jump from LTS to LTS I think
[18:47] <TD-Linux> which would be a easier jump, 8.04->9.10->10.04 when released, or 8.04->10.04 alpha?
[18:49] <TD-Linux> also, kubuntu wiki is down
[18:51] <genii> TD-Linux: LTS-LTS is how I usually proceed, with intermediate releases on a testing partition.
[18:51] <TD-Linux> this new HDD is 5x larger than the last
[18:51] <TD-Linux> so I can clone this partition and test an upgrade
[18:51] <genii> TD-Linux: Yes, not a bad strategy
[18:52] <TD-Linux> I have had terrible luck with ubuntu upgrades
[18:52] <TD-Linux> 7.10 to 8.04 is the only one that hasn't broken everything for me
[18:52] <genii> 6.06.2->8.04 went OK for me, luckily.
[18:53] <TD-Linux> I was always able to fix everything, but I was dissapointed that upgrades weren't as reliable as fedora's
[18:53] <TD-Linux> hence, as I want to upgrade soon, I thought I would jump to 10.04 alpha to reduce the number of sudden upgrades
[18:54] <TD-Linux> the danger of course is that I don't know if there are any upgrade scripts that need to be added yet
[18:54] <TD-Linux> or will be added
[18:54] <genii> TD-Linux: If thats the route you wanted... perhaps wait til beta 2or 3, maybe RC1 (would be my suggestion) and not an alpha
[19:03] <claudio> hello people
[19:04] <Guest84551> hello
[19:14] <GDX> hello
[20:27] <shan> hello
[20:30] <shan> would anyone know how to set up  box as an install server on a personal network?
[21:10] <markus_> hy everybody
[21:11] <markus_> in dragon player and vlc the bottom toolbar is always in the foreground. can I do anything against that?
[21:17] <colton_> My installation of kubuntu doesn't have any sound when I try to play flash videos (on youtube for example), what's wrong and what can I do to fix it?
[21:31] <o_a> If I install KDE SC Beta, how can I downgrade to 4.3?
[21:38] <jussi01> o_a: you cant without great trouble.
[21:38] <o_a> :(
[21:39] <o_a> Thanks
[21:43] <soee> ok im dealing with updates now :) finally i have gwenview updated but i had to remove kipi-plugins now if i want to install kipi-plugins i have to remove gwenview cuzo of dependies
[21:44] <soee> any sugestions how to fix it ?
[21:59] <dagon2> hey you guys
[21:59] <dagon2> I've got a small problem
[21:59] <dagon2> I want to change the colors
[22:00] <dagon2> on the system panel
[22:00] <dagon2> http://upload.infekterad.org/debian_5_plus_kde4.2.png <- like that
[22:00] <dagon2> that's my old conf
[22:00] <dagon2> but I can't remember how I did it
[22:00] <dagon2> any ideas?
[22:01] <islington> ...system panel? I just see plasma in that screenshot
[22:05] <dagon2> islington: the one in the bottom
[22:05] <dagon2> not system panel in that way but..
[22:06] <islington> you mean the system tray
[22:06] <dagon2> yeah
[22:06] <dagon2> that's the one :P
[22:06] <TD-Linux> dagon2: you change the plasma theme
[22:06] <manbra> I am on 8.04, I just updated my eeepc after awhile.
[22:06] <dagon2> is there an easy way or is it cp in folder?
[22:06] <manbra> I am having a problem with dragging scroll bars up and down
[22:06] <islington> okay, what you can do is system settings>advanced> desktop theme details
[22:07] <manbra> When I click one, and try to scrool, it just shoots to the top
[22:07] <islington> and pick a systemtray from another plasma theme
[22:07] <o_a> Is there any way I can install KDE SC Beta without removing the "old" KDE 4.3?
[22:08] <o_a> Just like in 8.04, which one could install 3.5 and 4.1 alongside
[22:08] <o_a> In that case, 4.1 gone in the /usr/lib/kde4 folder
[22:09] <manbra> Seems that right click and left click go up and down
[22:09] <manbra> Is there anyway to disable that
[22:10] <dagon2> islington: hey, that was easy. you can even download them directly. thanks a lot dude :D
[22:10] <islington> dagon2: np :)
[22:10] <dagon2> now I can continue to enjoy kde4 ;)
[22:11] <manbra> islington, do you know what would cause right and left click on my touchpad scroll?
[22:12] <islington> manbra: ooh I dunno I dont have a trackpad but have you checked the settings in system settings>>keyboard and mouse ?
[22:12] <manbra> I can't find anything in there
[22:13] <o_a> Left click: tap it anywhere
[22:13] <o_a> Right click: tap it on the right bottom
[22:13] <manbra> I know, but it scrolls up if I click and hold on a scroll bar
[22:14] <manbra> and moves down if I right click and hold on a scroll bar
[22:16] <manbra> Nvm, I got it
[22:16] <manbra> Nvm, still not working
[22:17] <manbra> If I click directly on the scroll bar, it will go to the top
[22:17] <manbra> if I click on it, then hold down left click, and move off the scroll bar
[22:17] <manbra> it acts normal
[22:29] <pteague> anybody know what engine amarok2 uses?
[22:30] <o_a> Xine or Gstreamer
[22:30] <o_a> It depends on your Phonon configuration
[22:30] <islington> odd after the update I can configure sound setting inside amarok
[22:31] <pteague> i'm not seeing either in the apt dependency list
[22:31] <o_a> Phonon-xine?
[22:31] <islington> pteague: everything uses xine in kde I believe.
[22:31] <o_a> No
[22:32] <o_a> You can use either Xine or Gstreamer
[22:32] <islington> no? everything uses phonon then?
[22:32] <islington> Oh I see o_a
[22:32] <pteague> how do i set the phonon config?
[22:32] <o_a> Phonon is not an engine, it is a backend
[22:33] <Juraphotos> is their any recomended web editors like dreamweaver for ubuntu/kubuntu thanks
[22:33] <o_a> Just a minute
[22:33] <islington> o_a: ah so you can either use phonon or pulseaudio, or can phonon plug into pulse?
[22:34] <pteague> as far as packages for phonon go, seems i have phonon-backend-xine installed & not phonon-backend-gstreamer... & i thought xine could play mp2s
[22:34] <o_a> System Settings -> Multimedia -> Infrastructure -> Be happy
[22:34] <islington> Juraphotos: I use nvu
[22:35] <pteague> nvu changed it's name to komposer i think
[22:35] <o_a> Either Xine or Gstreamer can play anything you have a codec for
[22:36] <Juraphotos> I  have used nvu in the oast its quite good but was looking for somthing more php orentated
[22:36] <woodyjlw> is this a channel I can ask for help with kubuntu on?
[22:36] <dagon2> probably
[22:36] <soee> sure thing :)
[22:37] <dagon2> pteague: that's correct. Nvu is now Kompozer
[22:37] <Juraphotos> yep Konpozer is the newer nvu
[22:39] <woodyjlw> just done a fresh install of kubuntu 9.10 and this is my first time on kubuntu. the fwcutter found and installed bcm43 wireless but I can not vew any wifi networks
[22:42] <o_a> I guess this answers your question regarding Phonon and Pulseaudio, islington: http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2152/multimedia.jpg
[22:49] <dagon2> has anyone got this wallpaper? -> http://upload.infekterad.org/debian_5_plus_kde4.2.png
[22:50] <dagon2> oh, sorry
[22:50] <dagon2> wrong shot
[22:51] <dagon2> shoot, lost the link :(
[22:52] <dagon2> it's a "nom nom" pic. It was in KDE 4.2 if iirk
[22:52] <dagon2> iirc*
[23:00] <JAMD456>  Can someone help me fix the boot up screen to the default Ubuntu one? I installed Kubuntu desktop and my boot up splash screen changed also
[23:03] <JAMD456>  Can someone help me fix the boot up screen to the default Ubuntu one? I installed Kubuntu desktop alongside Gnome and my boot up splash screen changed to Kubuntu rather then leaving the Ubuntu splash screen in place
[23:05] <martin__> hi
[23:05] <e_t_> JAMD456: sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-default-settings should do the trick
[23:06] <islington>  testing: quassel is about to crash when I do this:
[23:08] <JAMD456> Thanks for that
[23:08] <zegenie> lol
[23:08] <zegenie> famous last words
[23:11] <pteague> ah, i think i maybe might have figured out my problem... i don't have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed


[13:59] <jelmer> jml: How hard would it be to avoid the patch() call in test_translationtemplatesbuildmanager.py ?
[14:00] <jml> jelmer: good question.
[14:00] <jml> I think I'd need to change some stuff to not do "print "
[14:03] <jml> jelmer: I think I'd have to change lib/canonical/buildd/debian.py
[14:03] <jml> jelmer: I really didn't want to do that
[14:05] <jml> brb
[14:10] <jml> back
[14:55] <jelmer> re
[14:58] <jelmer> jml: I think that should be doable.
[14:59] <jelmer> jml: My worry is that "eating" all of the stdout output might hide some useful messages printed out by other bits of the code.
[14:59] <jml> jelmer: ok. I'll give it a go.
[15:00] <jelmer> jml: If you like, I'd be happy to +1 the changes without the patch() call for now?
[15:01] <jml> jelmer: sounds good. I'll revert the patch() change and land.


[00:10] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww edited [pull request #2495](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2495): Attempt to refactor geometry types without breaking MirAL ABI
 "And https://github.com/MirServer..." <- Can be dropped
[07:50] <RAOF> Ah. I see CI is on fire with the snap store being unavailable.
[08:05] <Saviq> Yeah it will be quite unhappy…
[11:52] <Saviq> sophie hey, not sure what's expected after ↑, but ubuntu-frame-vnc still reports 100% damage. That said, it does throttle frames down to 0 when nothing changes. I suppose that's expected when there's only a single full-screen app?
[14:31] <sophie-w> @Saviq yeah, we don't yet track damage areas of a surface, we treat a whole surface as damaged every time it gets a new frame
[14:33] <sophie-w> But if you had multiple displays with different apps, or split screen, damage would be useful (which I think is relevant, because you really don't want to capture two full displays worth of content twice as much as needed)
[14:35] <sophie-w> I suppose actually sending the damage to the client instead of just using it to know when to capture isn't getting us that much, but by the time everything else was wired up it was easy to implement
[14:36] <sophie-w> Tracking surface-level damage would be a useful thing not only for screencopy, but also for some platforms (according to RAOF), but I don't see that as a priority
[14:42] <alan_g[m]> Tracking damage is an optimisation. We will need it for various things, but those things need to first work.
[16:11] <sophie-w> RE https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2494#discussion_r908256638: I fail to see how a visible ImmediateExecutor type would be useful (aside from maybe using dynamic_cast<>ing to check if things are it, which we probably want to avoid). Since there's only one possible implementation of ImmediateExecutor, anything that would take an ImmediateExecutor could simply take nothing and hard-code in the one to use.
[16:27] <Saviq> Good night o/
[17:45] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2496](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2496): Refactor SurfaceObserver types to be compatible with new observer system
[17:45] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[17:45] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Because the modern observer system does not always send notifications on the same thread, it needs to be given types it can hold ownership of. This PR changes types used by SurfaceObserver to work. All methods still take a raw surface pointer, which is generally not used and should be removed, but that is out of scope here.
[17:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2497](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2497): Use new MOCK_METHOD macro in MockSceneSession
[17:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww edited [pull request #2497](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2497): Use new MOCK_METHOD macro in MockSceneSession
[17:51] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww closed [pull request #2493](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2493): AbstractShell: refactor confinement
[17:51] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww reopened [pull request #2493](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2493): AbstractShell: refactor confinement
[18:48] <sophie-w> grayson-g: easy review: https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2497
[18:50] <sophie-w> gmock has added a new, improved syntax for mock functions since most of our mocks were written. Not only does it prevent you from having to specify the number of arguments in the macro name, it allows marking methods `override` (which prevents us accidentally failing to update/remove them when the base class changes)
[18:50] <grayson-g[m]> on it
[19:25] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2497](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2497): Use new MOCK_METHOD macro in MockSceneSession
[19:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2498](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2498): Allow --add-wayland-extenions all and clean up help message... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5332a8fadc54ce441f20b7339aaa8888288b492d)
[19:45] <sophie-w> GitHub -> Matrix bot seems needlessly verbose to me. Would it be possible to:
[19:45] <sophie-w> - Not include full issue/PR text
[19:45] <sophie-w> - Not include issue/PR edited/closed (only opened)?
[19:45] <sophie-w> I would look into that myself if I had any idea where it is hosted/configured
[19:45] <sophie-w>  * GitHub -> Matrix bot seems needlessly verbose to me. Would it be possible to:
[19:45] <sophie-w> - Not include full issue/PR text
[19:45] <sophie-w> - Not include issue/PR edited/closed (only opened)?
[19:45] <sophie-w> I would look into that myself if I had any idea where it is hosted/configured
[19:47] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww edited [pull request #2498](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2498): Allow --add-wayland-extenions all and clean up help message
[19:55] <Saviq> > <@wmww:matrix.org> GitHub -> Matrix bot seems needlessly verbose to me. Would it be possible to:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/dba25b76e8ab92823b1755622801e79e29e13e36)
[19:57] <Saviq> sophie can you see https://github.com/MirServer/mir/settings/hooks/360169876 ?
[19:59] <Saviq> If you can, you'll see that there's very little that's enabled, but I agree it's too verbose still
[20:21] <sophie-w> 404 :(
 "404 :(" <- How about now?
[20:32] <sophie-w> https://github.com/MirServer/mir/settings/hooks/360169876 still 404s for me
[20:32] <Saviq> sophie-w: Should be there now. Apparently that's "sensitive or destructive"
[20:32] <sophie-w> (it's fine, I believe you've turned off what you can)
[20:32] <sophie-w> Thanks, now I see it
[21:13] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2496](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2496): Refactor SurfaceObserver types to be compatible with new observer system
[21:40] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [issue #2499](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2499): Upgrade to wl_seat v7
[21:40] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[21:40] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > We currently expose v6, wayvnc wants v7.
 "Tracking surface-level damage..." <- Specifically: you can pass damaged areas through to KMS, and some hardware (particularly: USB display adapters) can use that to optimise things.


[04:51] <RedBunny> could someone tell me the best software to get ubuntu running under windows without dual booting ,... im trying virtual box i think its called but can't seem to get it set up ,..