[05:26] <tommy> hi everyone, ive just installed java, as they said on the java site, ive allso made a symlinc to the "libjavaplugin_oji.so" file.
[05:26] <tommy> i use the dapper drake 6-06 kubuntu
[05:26] <Blippe> DaSkreech, you looking for picard?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[05:36] <Chryseus> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[05:36] <ubotu> Chryseus: I think you lost me on that one
[05:36] <Chryseus> knows everything ;)
[05:37] <tommy> can anyone please giveme the url that i need to get blackdown java from apt
[05:37] <Hobbsee> !java
[05:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:37] <tommy> Hobbsee: i tried that one:P
[05:38] <tommy> but i cant get the blackdown java isntalled
[05:38] <robin_> !multiverse
[05:38] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[05:38] <gregg> Hello
[05:38] <tommy> using sudo apt-get install j2relol
[05:38] <gregg> I'm new to Linux and Kubuntu
[05:38] <robin_> for some reaon ubotou always PM me
[05:38] <tommy> gregg: how interesting
[05:38] <robin_> uboto*
[05:39] <gregg> I just installed Kubuntu 6.06 and everyting seems to work except AmaroK
[05:39] <Blippe> !musicbrainz
[05:39] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blippe
[05:39] <FoodcoMan> Morning
[05:39] <tommy> can some just paste me the line i need for javablackdown to be in apt?
[05:39] <tommy> I would love to get that live
[05:39] <tommy> I don't like adept
[05:39] <tommy> i like to use the command line:)
[05:40] <tommy> Don't anyone have it?
[05:41] <tommy> plz someone
[05:41] <steph_> que se passe t'il?
[05:41] <Blippe> tommy, try apt-cache search java
[05:41] <robin_> steph_: speak english
[05:41] <tommy> Blippe: okey
[05:41] <steph_> sorry
[05:41] <steph_> what's happening tommy?
[05:42] <gregg> Someone on the forum suggested I come here for help, but I think I'll stick to the forum, seems friendlier and more tolerant of beginners. Thanks anyway.
[05:43] <steph_> if i can help
[05:43] <tommy> steph_: couldn't find it
[05:43] <steph_> tommy : find what?
[05:43] <tommy> blackdown java
[05:43] <Blippe> tommy, and instead of using apt-get, apt-cache, apt-cdrom, try aptitude. it even allow you to do stuff as "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" try it out, and then "sudo aptitude purge xubuntu-desktop" and xubuntu and everything associated with it is gone.
[05:43] <robin_> gregg: what's the problem ?
[05:44] <robin_> gregg: you say amarok doesn't work, but we can't do much with only that information
[05:45] <steph_> tommy : have you tried j2sdk1.4 ?
[05:45] <gregg> I just installed Kubuntu 6.06 and everything seems to work except Amarok, the icon spins on the taskbar for about 30 secs but then just disappears
[05:45] <gregg> sound works and Kaffiene works
[05:45] <robin_> gregg: ok can you try to run it from konsole ?
[05:45] <steph_> tommy: i did an apt-cache search blackdown and it gives me : j2sdk1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Editi
[05:45] <gregg> yup
[05:45] <robin_> gregg: maybe you will see an error message there.
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Blippe: Picard?
[05:46] <tommy> steph_: i didnt find it
[05:46] <gregg> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:46] <gregg>   Major opcode:  146
[05:46] <tommy> tommy@tommy-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install j2sdk1.4
[05:46] <tommy> Leser pakkelister ... Ferdig
[05:46] <tommy> Skaper oversikt over avhengighetsforhold ... Ferdig
[05:46] <tommy> E: Klarte ikke  finne pakken j2sdk1.4
[05:46] <gregg>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:46] <gregg>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:46] <steph_> tommy: did you enable multiverse in you sources.list?
[05:46] <tommy> thats norwegian
[05:46] <gregg> Failed to open device
[05:46] <gregg> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:46] <gregg>   Major opcode:  146
[05:46] <gregg>   Minor opcode:  3
[05:47] <gregg>   Resource id:  0x0
[05:47] <gregg> Failed to open device
[05:47] <gregg> amaroK: [Loader]  Starting amarokapp..
[05:47] <gregg> amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.
[05:47] <gregg> /usr/lib/amarok/amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libpq.so.4: invalid ELF header
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Shouldn't !java be changed now?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: no idea, this late in the day...
[05:47] <robin_> gregg please don't paste in the irc channel
[05:47] <robin_> gregg: you can paste at kubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:47] <gregg> sorry
[05:47] <tommy> steph_: i dont know what to write
[05:47] <tommy> what should the line be?
[05:48] <Blippe> you ask for musicbrainz, and i can't honestly beleive anyone uses the musicbrainz capabilities which are present in _buntu, but musicbrainz have released a new tagger for whole albums (and single songs) called "picard" and ave released debs for ubuntu..
[05:48] <Blippe> DaSkreech, for you, up
[05:48] <CaBlGuY> Be Back Later
[05:48] <robin_> gregg: which amarok version are you using the standard one that comes with dapper /
[05:48] <robin_> ?
[05:49] <gregg> whatever the one that came with 6.06 is
[05:49] <steph_> tommy : in you /etc/apt/sources.list find the line with universe add multiverse (should be like dapper universe multiverse)
[05:49] <steph_> then apt-get update
[05:49] <tommy> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:49] <tommy> deb-src http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:50] <tommy> ive done it
[05:50] <tommy> still wouldnt find it
[05:50] <steph_> just after universe add multiverse (with a space before)
[05:50] <ganymed123> ciao
[05:50] <Shaezsche> anyone familiar with getting winmodems working in kubuntu? i need the driver for 14f12bfa:0:90000
[05:50] <Shaezsche> cannot find it an linuxant either
[05:50] <DaSkreech> Blippe: repos!! :)
[05:50] <cryptom> Hi all, I cant find the right app to configure hotkeys for desktop changing in kde (someone here already pointed it out for me one year ago or so...)
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Blippe: Does it have mp3? :(
[05:51] <Blippe> DaSkreech, you're right... they have a new repo for *ubuntu
[05:51] <robin_> gregg: it looks like libpq is corrupted
[05:52] <Blippe> DaSkreech, yes, it tags mp3s
[05:52] <tommy> steph: thanks, now it worked
[05:52] <robin_> gregg: but I'm trying to find out where that file came from.
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Blippe: Where do I go to read up on it?
[05:52] <Blippe> DaSkreech, it is a wee but buggy though
[05:52] <Shaezsche> no one knows how to get winmodems working?
[05:53] <_al_> hi
[05:53] <FoodcoMan> Riddell: Excellent work.  I'm lovin it.
[05:53] <_al_> i've problem with just installed kubuntu dapper
[05:53] <robin_> gregg: can you reinstall libpq4 ?
[05:53] <cryptom> I know it is possible to configure kde to change virtual desktop with e.g. Alt-1, Alt-2, and so on (as in windowmaker), but I cant find it in the settings dialogs
[05:53] <kkathman> howdy FoodcoMan :)
[05:53] <robin_> gregg: sudo apt-get install libpq4
[05:53] <robin_> gregg: sudo apt-get install libpq4 --reinstall
[05:53] <IO-Jupiter> hi! Is there a way to leave some partitions unmounted during install? I have 2 big partitions with lvm vols I want to leave unmounted. Blanking the mountpoint causes the installer to NOT proceed!!!
[05:53] <FoodcoMan> hey kkathman  =)
[05:53] <_al_> there is something weird associated to wlan-settings
[05:53] <myndmelder> grmbl grmbl grmbl... Kaffeine won't play the video files... I installed the codecs... Help? Please...
[05:53] <Blippe> DaSkreech, http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall#head-5f60c040c32c67c304b335181b88678ad34149c2
[05:54] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  I had to quit using kubuntu :( - the keyboard just died
[05:54] <MidMark> guys with dvd version, choosen italian and after reboot dapper is in english...
[05:54] <MidMark> I had no internet connection during install, but is it normal?
[05:54] <_al_> when i plug in my pcmcia wlan-card, there appear two wlan interfaces
[05:54] <robin_> gregg: and if you still encounter the problem, you also try on #amarok channel
[05:54] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  Was like unexpected, tried to reboot from hard boot, and for some reason wont activate that keyboard anymore...it was working fine and then POOF
[05:54] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Sounds like an excuse for a new machine.
[05:54] <_al_> which i see using iwconfig command
[05:55] <tommy> anyone knows why i get error 10 when installing
[05:55] <tommy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/j2re1.4_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:55] <tommy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:55] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  nono the keyboard is fine...works with the same box under SUSE just fine
[05:55] <tommy> i get this lol when installing blackdown java
[05:55] <kkathman> and it works on my Windows box also
[05:55] <kkathman> So its something in Dapper that went haywire
[05:55] <kkathman> there was a bug before that the keyboard stopped working, but if you restarted KDE it was ok
[05:55] <DrNickRiviera> is the alternate install cd like the normal one but with more features in the installer and without the live cd capability?
[05:55] <kkathman> but I did a HARD boot and it didnt fix it
[05:56] <robin_> tommy: try to run dpkg-configure -a
[05:56] <kkathman> Im very discouraged
[05:56] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: You really love that keyboard.
[05:56] <tommy> robin_ should i remove the installed package first?
[05:56] <_al_> DrNickRiviera: it isn't graphical installer
[05:56] <kkathman> the keyboard is fine FoodcoMan :)
[05:56] <robin_> DrNickRiviera: it should contain the usual text installer.
[05:56] <_al_> but much better
[05:56] <MidMark> guys none that has installed kubuntu NOT in english?
[05:56] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  Im using it right now under SUSE on the same machine :)
[05:57] <robin_> tommy: no, don't think so, but you could also try : sudo apt-get install -f (i thought)
[05:57] <MidMark> after installation which language was used?
[05:57] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Was your dapper install and upgrade from Breezy?
[05:57] <robin_> MidMark: nope, even it is available in Dutch, I always use the English one :)
[05:57] <tommy> dpkg-configure -a: command not found
[05:58] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  nope...I installed Flight 6 way back when, and have been upgrading all along.  I got two updates yesterday, but the keyboard worked fine all the way up until last night late...then just mysteriously stopped
[05:58] <robin_> tommy: dpkg --configure -a
[05:58] <DrNickRiviera> does the normal cd just not have the functionality to create logical volumes, or can't it use them at all?
[05:59] <DrNickRiviera> that's why i'm unsure about which one to get, want to be able to set up logical volumes
[05:59] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  I asked around the developers and no joy...thought maybe Riddell would peek in and offer any ideas... I cant write a bug simply saying.. "Keyboard quits working unexpectedly"
[05:59] <v3ctor> you need to boot to installer and not livecd for LVM
[05:59] <MidMark> robin_ thanx robin_ but I think it is a major bug
[06:00] <MidMark> selected italian and only english available
[06:01] <robin_> looks like a bug yes.
[06:01] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Does it do it in a shell without loading X?
[06:01] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: or is it only X.
[06:01] <_rince_> re
[06:02] <MidMark> I had filed a bug since flight-6, no fixes :(
[06:02] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  didnt try that... I also didnt see if it was just kubuntu
[06:02] <kkathman> I can log in at the login screen though
[06:02] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: If it works in a shell prior to X, then X is loosing something while loading your user stuff.
[06:02] <kkathman> FoodcoMan: being able to login at the login screen and then it dying in kubuntu, tells me its a kubuntu problem
[06:03] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  yep
[06:03] <robin_> MidMark: from my experience the fixes can take a while, on some of my bug reports when breezy was released has been responded last month. saying the bugs didn't appear anymore in dapper :)
[06:03] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Do you have another user to try on that machine?
[06:03] <mitakka> hi i am using azureus and it always says that my dht is firewalled, so i can't download anything, can somebody tell me what setting to change??
[06:03] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  I'll re logon under Gnome and see if i get the same issue... brb
[06:04] <ctothej> can someone help me troubleshoot? I installed ati's drivers (amd64, x1900 vid), and i have no opengl. How can I install/enable opengl?
[06:04] <MidMark> robin_ thanx
[06:04] <gregg> robin: thanks, that fixed it :)
[06:04] <_Shade_> hi there
[06:04] <robin_> gregg: np
[06:04] <MidMark> robin_ do you know which package set the default resolution in xorg.confg?
[06:04] <MidMark> because is wrong it too :)
[06:04] <gregg> any idea on why that file was corrupted?
[06:04] <robin_> MidMark: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <MidMark> robin_: what does?
[06:05] <robin_> MidMark: run that cmd and than you can set your resolutions and stuff
[06:05] <_Shade_> i know it might be not a related question, but what command can I use to seek a specified nickname ?
[06:05] <Blippe> robin_, this command does reconfigure your xserver (your screen)   dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:06] <MidMark> robin_: I have run the x configuration from the system panel, and the maximum is 1024x768 but my lcd is native in 1280x1024
[06:06] <MidMark> was recognized like a generic monitor
[06:06] <robin_> Blippe: I know.
[06:06] <robin_> MidMark: well, I always turn off all resolution but the one I want :)
[06:06] <robin_> MidMark: I don't know how to force to another resolution if you have set more than one
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Seveas: Lo
[06:07] <Blippe> robin_, :D wrong person...
[06:07] <robin_> gregg: no idea, why it is corrupted, you had crash ?
[06:07] <robin_> Blippe: :) thought so.
[06:07] <noaXess_kubuntu_> hi all
[06:08] <DaSkreech> let me guess
[06:08] <DaSkreech> you have no access to Kubuntu?
[06:08] <noaXess_kubuntu_> does anybody have also the problem tih the nickname on freenode ?.. i have noaXess_kubuntu and can't login.. cause it's allready used..
[06:08] <MidMark> robin_: ok, but which package is responsible to detect monitor resolution? hw-detect?
[06:08] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu_: did you resgister it ?
[06:08] <noaXess_kubuntu_> yes...
[06:08] <ctothej> noaXess_kubuntu_: ... what he said
[06:09] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu_: than release it
[06:09] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu_: and recover
[06:09] <noaXess_kubuntu_> robin_ how?
[06:09] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu_: msg NickServ how to do that
[06:09] <robin_> MidMark: not a clue :)
[06:09] <noaXess_kubuntu_> [Whois]  noaXess_kubuntu is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(noaXess_kubuntu)
[06:09] <robin_> MidMark: but I thought there is also an applet in kde where you can set the resolution to one you have configured in the xserver
[06:10] <ctothej> noaXess_kubuntu_: /msg NickServ GHOST HELP <-- read that
[06:10] <robin_> MidMark: but I can't come up with the name... can't remember it.
[06:10] <MidMark> robin_: ok
[06:10] <noaXess_kubuntu_> ctothej: password incorrect
[06:11] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  Gnome is fine...can type and everything
[06:11] <ctothej> if you put in the right password... i am not sure why it would say that
[06:11] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu_: you sure you are using the right password?
[06:11] <kkathman> however, when I tried bringing up the kubuntu kvirc it wont connect, but no problem with gnome xchat
[06:11] <yamal> noaXess_kubuntu_: it's 'help ghost' not the other way around
[06:12] <daurn|laptop> hi
[06:12] <noaXess_kubuntu_> yamal: yes.. thanks
[06:12] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  methinks there was a bad update somewhere :)
[06:12] <ctothej> did you type: '/msg NickServ GHOST noaXess_kubuntu mypassword'  ?
[06:12] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: I think...
[06:12] <DaSkreech> cryptom: Sure. Why not?
[06:12] <noaXess_kubuntu> aha okey.. now im /me
[06:12] <robin_> noaXess_kubuntu: grats :)
[06:13] <cryptom> DaSkreech, I cant find the configure dialog
[06:13] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: might be settings in ~/.kde/share
[06:13] <ctothej> yamal: right... thanks
[06:13] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  but kubuntu always has been a bit behind ubuntu in deployment IIRC
[06:13] <noaXess_kubuntu> he guys thanks..
[06:14] <ctothej> sure
[06:14] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  well the mouse works, and when I was over in Kubuntu, I went to the systemsettings and verified the keyboard and regional settings
[06:14] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  the only thing I did last night was click the defaults on my sound, which enabled them after being silent.  Even then, the problem didnt manifest itself till much later
[06:15] <cryptom> DaSkreech, in kcontrol I only find the settings for the virtual desktop names, but nothing about hotkeys
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Try configuring the hot keys then?
[06:15] <ctothej> Is there a way to read M$ .chm help files or convert them in Linux?
[06:15] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  At least we have it narrowed down to kubuntu
[06:15] <cryptom> DaSkreech, where?
[06:16] <_al_> should there be kde 3.5.3 for kubuntu?
[06:16] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: I am curious if you created a new user, if the new user profile in KDE worked?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Accessibilty?
[06:17] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  one more interesting thing...when I launch a K-application under gnome, my keyboard is fine :)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> cryptom: Look under Keyboard shortcuts?
[06:17] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Ugh, that sounds like a windows issue.  Blah.
[06:17] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: Maybe remove and reinstall KDE?
[06:17] <cryptom> DaSkreech, ok thanks, found it.... it is hidden under the point regional settings...
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Yes ;-)
[06:17] <pussfeller> there ws an error about not understanding uft-8 encoding in the upgrade relating to some menu entrie or kdestop things
[06:17] <kkathman> FoodcoMan:  KDE is messed up big time on the install, so I dont want to try reinstalling
[06:18] <pussfeller> in mine, that might be related
[06:18] <kkathman> brb.. gonna try loggin into kubuntu once more
[06:19] <FoodcoMan> kkathman: I snagged my stuff and did a from scratch Dapper install last night on my laptop to dump some upgrade oddities.
[06:19] <robin_> FoodcoMan: kkathman is not here anymore :P
[06:20] <jpatrick> robin_: well observed
[06:20] <FoodcoMan> robin_: Thanks, found out when name expansion quit working.
[06:20] <FoodcoMan> =)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Anyone ever run oracle?
[06:21] <FoodcoMan> robin_: I get started typing something then interrupted here at work, then when I get back to it sometimes peeps are gone.  :-(
[06:22] <FoodcoMan> hows it going jpatrick?
[06:24] <robin_> Foodcoman_Away: hehe ok :)
[06:25] <ctothej> what is the relationship between apt-get and adept?
[06:25] <ctothej> is adept just a GUI for apt?
[06:25] <DaSkreech> apt-get is a system which sits on top of dpkg
[06:25] <DaSkreech> adept sits on top of apt-get
[06:25] <_chavo> ctothej, yes
[06:26] <ctothej> Oh nice. thank you
[06:26] <mwelchuk> Hi Guys. Has anyone done an upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06, by changing the distribution in sources.list? If so, did it go OK?
[06:27] <jpatrick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[06:28] <mwelchuk> Yep - saw that page, just seemed very ubuntu specific.
[06:28] <jpatrick> Same thing...
[06:29] <sampan> mwelchuk  it was "OK" but far from painless for me.  the upgrade had several errors and had to be restarted via sudo apt-get install -f  ... at least three times. my sound was not working at all at first and a few other annoyances.
[06:30] <Foodcoman_Away> that wiki covers it all.  Has kdesu and gksudo
[06:30] <mwelchuk> sampan:Yeah - I got as far as downloading the new packages and looking at changes, it looked like it was going to uninstall a few apps I wanted, inkscape for example.
[06:30] <nocloud> hey, is there anywhere i can get a sources.list file for kubuntu dapper?
[06:31] <sampan> mwelchuk  yeah -- for some (unknown) reason, the upgrade decided that i really didn't want OOo anymore and so it deleted it completely -- had to manually apt-get that -- very weird
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !sources
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tell nocloud about sources
[06:32] <mwelchuk> sampan:Cheers, guess I'll just have to manually check the list :-(
[06:32] <sampan> good luck! :/
[06:32] <sampan> ;)
[06:33] <nocloud> i've been trying to upgrade breezy to dapper for two days
[06:33] <nocloud> like, literally spent over 15 hours workiing on it
[06:33] <nocloud> and it still won't work
[06:33] <nocloud> kubuntu isn't very user friendly.....
[06:33] <PPower> could somebody submit a bug report for me please?
[06:33] <kosh> wow that seems strange
[06:33] <v3ctor> lol
[06:34] <kosh> so what problems are you having trying to upgrade?
[06:34] <Kadran> !lilo
[06:34] <ubotu> Kadran: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <Kadran> !grub
[06:34] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:34] <PPower> !bug
[06:34] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Blippe: Ok now I'm confuzzled again
[06:35] <kosh> nocloud: so what problems are you actually having?
[06:35] <nocloud> i tried using adept to do it, but it says there is an error commiting changes, tehre was a problem downloading some packages....
[06:35] <kosh> guess he did not actually want help and just wanted to complain
[06:36] <nocloud> sorry, got disconnected
[06:36] <ctothej> nocloud: have you been getting disconnected a lot?
[06:36] <M4sta> hi, there everyone :) do u mind helping a bit a n00b, who really has lame questions :))
[06:36] <nocloud> no, not really....
[06:36] <kosh> nocloud: close adept, open up a konsole window and type sudo apt-get update   <enter>   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:37] <ctothej> M4sta: just ask buddy
[06:37] <nocloud> it says : some index files failed to download, they have been ognored or old ones used instead
[06:38] <ctothej> nocloud: i suggest just downloading the cd image and using it to upgrade
[06:38] <M4sta> great :)) had 2 ask jsut 2 b polite :)) who knows mayb u have a #kubuntu_n00b chan just for basket cases ;))
[06:39] <nocloud> how do i upgrade with the cd image....i'm using dual boot right now, will the cd image erase my entire disk?
[06:39] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can log in as root?
[06:40] <pestilence> nocloud, sudo -s
[06:40] <ctothej> nocloud: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[06:40] <kosh> nocloud: you don't you use sudo
[06:40] <M4sta> i ahve only lil xperience back in my SuSe days, so today i decided to boot the new kubuntu livecd so i can install and start learning
[06:40] <ctothej> read section on upgrading from cd
[06:40] <pestilence> nocloud, add the cdrom to /etc/apt/sources.list and then aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:40] <pestilence> or do as ctothej says ;)
[06:40] <M4sta> i had np configuring net, but i can't get kPPP going
[06:41] <nocloud> what should i write to add the cd rom?
[06:41] <M4sta> i configure it, but the user and pass fields remain darkened and i can't neter them
[06:41] <M4sta> which kinda hlats the whole thing :))
[06:41] <pestilence> read the wiki
[06:41] <M4sta> halts*
[06:42] <kosh> pestilence: the wiki does not say to use aptitude it says to use apt-get
[06:42] <kkathman> Foodcoman_Away:  no such luck... kubuntu died a slow death sigh... and just when I was thinking about going back to it ;)
[06:42] <ctothej> kosh: whats the first 3 letters of aptitude?
[06:43] <pestilence> kosh, pick your poison, i like aptitude.  they have the same syntax
[06:43] <Tonio_> hi
[06:43] <kosh> ctothej: they don't do things quite the same way
[06:43] <ctothej> oh no?
[06:43] <kosh> ctothej: aptitude is more likely to install stuff then apt-get is
[06:43] <nocloud> i am still getting : some index files failed to download
[06:43] <kosh> they differ in how suggests and reocmmended is handled I think
[06:43] <nocloud> i think there is a problem with my sources.list file
[06:43] <ctothej> hmm
[06:43] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can replace that file with a new one?
[06:44] <ctothej> nocloud: pastebin the file
[06:44] <nocloud> how do i do that?
[06:44] <ctothej> !pastebin
[06:44] <nocloud> !pastebin
[06:44] <nocloud> ?
[06:45] <ctothej> hmmm -> "Pastebin.nl is down right now please use http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/ until pastebin.nl is back up"
[06:45] <nocloud> okay, i got a sample sources.list
[06:45] <nocloud> how do i replaacec the one i currently have?
[06:46] <kosh> you sure seem intent on blowing your box up
[06:46] <ctothej> nevermind. just go to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com and paste sources.list in there. then give us the url here
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Is there ever going to be #kubuntu+1?
[06:46] <kosh> DaSkreech: why?
[06:47] <MidMark> people, why in adept it doesn't check for packages also in the dvd like breezy?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Don't know there is a #kubuntu-devel and a #ebuntu
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Why not a #kubuntu+1
[06:47] <james_xxx> i would love to see ebuntu perfected a little
[06:48] <nocloud> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/753801
[06:48] <DaSkreech> james_xxx: Volunteer
[06:48] <james_xxx> what is the +1 about?
[06:48] <v3ctor> dev
[06:48] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: not too many people there and here, does not warrant a +1 channel, i think
[06:48] <Celeste> hi
[06:48] <DaSkreech> It's what ever the next version is
[06:48] <ctothej> someone else take a look with me: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/753801
[06:48] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: it was discussed in a kubuntu meeting, so there you go :)
[06:48] <james_xxx> DaSkreech: if i were only up to par... i would have to learn a lot more first
[06:49] <DaSkreech> so Now that dapper is out it would be the area for edgy
[06:49] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Have the log?
[06:49] <Celeste> please help me with vmware tools ....  I have installed the "linux-headers"  but vmware tools cannot find the kernel headers....
[06:49] <Celeste> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[06:49] <Celeste> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[06:49] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: hmm, it should be linked off the kubuntu meetings page on the wiki
[06:49] <kosh> nocloud: it looks fine why not just try running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:50] <nocloud> yea, i did run that and i got the some index files failed to download message
[06:50] <ubuntu> he compilado 14 veces el kernel, me corro de gusto
[06:50] <gil> how do i set up a Lexmark all in one X2350
[06:50] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Stalker!
[06:51] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: sue me!
[06:51] <v3ctor> gil: when you find out let me know
[06:51] <Tonio_> Celeste: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386/
[06:51] <kosh> nocloud: could you please run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and if it gives any errors could you please put those in the pastebin
[06:51] <Tonio_> Celeste: of course depends on the kernel headers you have installed
[06:51] <ubuntu> se me pone dura cuando inicio KDE
[06:52] <ubuntu_> How do I format a partition to reiser4 from qtparted ?
[06:53] <MidMark> people, why in adept it doesn't check for packages also in the dvd like breezy?
[06:53] <nocloud> here's the error message: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/753815
[06:53] <dickhall_> wow, updating to dapper totally hosed my box
[06:54] <jorgp_> how do I get my resolution back to 1024x768, I have that resolution in xorg.conf, but kubuntu only seems to want to run in 640x480
[06:54] <kosh> nocloud: just comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list that is for backports and then run sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:54] <robotgeek> jorgp_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:56] <dickhall_> changed all my repos to dapper, ran the command on the website, rebooted - get dumped to a command prompt and I can't get networking working
[06:56] <dickhall_> well, I can get boxes on my local network, but nothing outside
[06:56] <bjoern__> hi
[06:56] <bjoern__> i cant play mp3
[06:56] <bjoern__> what can i do?
[06:56] <dickhall_> so I'm gonna copy all my files off and wipe the whole thing. I knew upgrading would suck
[06:56] <dickhall_> !mp3
[06:56] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <nocloud> for some reason, kate won't open it and when i open it with kedit, it tells me unable to write to file...
[06:56] <DaSkreech> !tell bjoern__ about mp3
[06:56] <Seantater_> anyine gone to kde-apps.org recently?
[06:57] <Seantater_> Looks like they crashed
[06:57] <mwe_> I having problems making the pager transparent
[06:57] <bjoern__> well i have did that already and ich cant find libxine-extracodecs in adept
[06:57] <mwe_> Seantater_: kde-look.org seems to be down at least
[06:57] <bjoern__> s/ich/I
[06:57] <kosh> nocloud: how abotu kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:58] <mwe_> Seantater_: well it seems I can connect to both again now
[06:58] <bjoern__> so, what is to do?
[06:58] <mwe_> is anyone able to make the kde pager transparent?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:58] <Seantater_> mwe_: Yep -- I can make it trans
[06:58] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: yes
[06:58] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: at least i think so
[06:59] <Seantater_> mwe_: Works perfect here -- KDE 3.5.3 (just updated from 3.5.2)
[06:59] <mwe_> it's really odd. it used to be transparent but now it wont work :| is your panel transparent or not?
[06:59] <Seantater_> mwe_: Dapper has 3.5.2 by default -- consider upgrading
[06:59] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: Well You could check :)
[06:59] <mwe_> Seantater_: oh
[06:59] <Seantater_> mwe_: yep -- my poanel is trans too
[06:59] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: I activated all sources :)
[06:59] <mwe_> Seantater_: what mirror is that from?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> how many packages do you have available?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> It's at the bottom of adept
[07:00] <robotgeek> Tonio_: heh
[07:00] <bjoern__> 18301
[07:00] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: 18301
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Sounds about right
[07:00] <Seantater_> mwe_: hold on -- I'm looking for it
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Serch for xine?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> How many choices do you have?
[07:00] <mwe_> Seantater_: thanks
[07:01] <DaSkreech> like 15-18?
[07:01] <Seantater_> mwe_: look here --> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php  **HOWEVER** -- the mirrors are really slow -- there is one specififc one that is fast -- I'll look for it
[07:01] <bjoern__> wait ... filterting
[07:01] <bjoern__> :)
[07:01] <nocloud> okay, i believee i had removed the ones that don't work from the sources.list file.....
[07:01] <mwe_> Seantater_: yeah cat your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:01] <nocloud> adept is doing something right now.....i'll let you guys know what happens
[07:02] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: 15
[07:02] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:02] <DaSkreech> and you won't have a libxine-extracodecs?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> don't sorry
[07:02] <Seantater_> mwe_: this server is the fastest --> I'll give you the line to add to sources in a sec
[07:02] <Seantater_> ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu
[07:03] <bjoern__> nope
[07:03] <mwe_> Seantater_: thanks
[07:03] <Seantater_> mwe_: add the following to sources (no quotes)->  "deb ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/3.5.3/kubuntu dapper main"
[07:03] <bjoern__> jsut libxinedev and main1 and libxinerama and some other stuff
[07:04] <bjoern__> shall i update KDE?
[07:04] <MidMark> guys please help me: how can add dvd to the source list in adept?
[07:04] <MidMark> which line I have to add?
[07:04] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: any ideas?
[07:04] <DaSkreech> MidMark: It should be there already if you instaleld from DVD
[07:04] <MidMark> nope
[07:05] <MidMark> it wasn't
[07:05] <DaSkreech> do you have libxine1c2?
[07:05] <mwe_> Seantater_: thank you. I'm downloading the new packages with apt now
[07:06] <mwe_> Seantater_: I'm crossing my fingers that it will fix the trans problem
[07:06] <MidMark> DaSkreech: can you provide me the exact string to add please?
[07:06] <marek_> hi
[07:06] <marek_> gays
[07:06] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: nope libxine-main1 and libxine-dev
[07:06] <Seantater_> mwe_: (just in case you still wanted it) here's my apt sources: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/753842
[07:07] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: I think you may not have multiverse on :)
[07:07] <Seantater_> mwe_: Enjoy a more bug-fixed KDE!
[07:07] <mwe_> Seantater_: yeah
[07:07] <Seantater_> mwe_: Is your dapper the final release?
[07:07] <mwe_> Seantater_: yes
[07:08] <DaSkreech> MidMark: deb cdrom:[<name of DVD>] / dapper main restricted
[07:08] <Seantater_> mwe_: good -- it should work perfect then
[07:08] <mwe_> Seantater_: well I just upgraded from the flight I had
[07:08] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: main restricted universe multiverse  < this one is enabeld
[07:08] <Seantater_> mwe_: so did I
[07:08] <mwe_> Seantater_: nothing needed to upgrade at the release date though
[07:08] <Seantater_> mwe_: and the upgrade went perfect
[07:08] <Seantater_> mwe_: many things had to upgrade for me (moved from flight6 -> final)
[07:09] <mwe_> Seantater_: I upgraded two days before the release and nothing new needed to updating yesterday
[07:09] <MidMark> DaSkreech: name of dvd is what I want?
[07:09] <Seantater_> mwe_: so I could have beat the rush?
[07:09] <mwe_> Seantater_: yeah probably :)
[07:09] <Seantater_> mwe_: I'll kep that in mind next time -- maybe it won;t take so long
[07:09] <mwe_> Seantater_: probably not
[07:09] <Seantater_> mwe_: how fast is it d/ling for you?
[07:09] <kosh> I just upgrade every day
[07:09] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: which line do add maybe?
[07:10] <mwe_> Seantater_: like 150 KB/S
[07:10] <DaSkreech> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[07:10] <mwe_> Seantater_: well did you know removing us. from you mirrors can speed up downloads?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: That's for you :)
[07:11] <DaSkreech> MidMark: I don't know the name of the DVd :)
[07:11] <Seantater_> mwe_: it was d/ling here at 2500 b/s (bytes!!!), even though I have a 600kb/s conn to the inet
[07:11] <bjoern__> DaSkreech:  okay thank you
[07:11] <DaSkreech> MidMark: When you put it in it automounts?
[07:11] <Seantater_> mwe_: but that was one hour after release
[07:11] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: Let me know if you need anythign else
[07:11] <mwe_> Seantater_: oh
[07:11] <MidMark> the label?
[07:11] <mwe_> Seantater_: using archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com will redirect you to the least busy mirror
[07:12] <Foodcoman_Away> sounds like we need apt-torrent.  =)
[07:12] <Seantater_> mwe_: I'll do that!
[07:13] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: i will try it know, lets hope!
[07:13] <MidMark> what is the name of the dvd? How can I find it? Is the dvd label?
[07:13] <Seantater_> mwe_: surces edited for archive instead of us.archive -- thanks
[07:14] <MidMark> Tried cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 i386] / without success
[07:14] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: ah got it!!
[07:14] <mwe_> Seantater_: yw
[07:15] <bjoern__> DaSkreech: thank you very much!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: Certainly
[07:15] <DaSkreech> bjoern__: Come again
[07:16] <MidMark> DaSkreech: what is the name of the dvd? How can I find it? Is the dvd label?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> MidMark: When you put it in it comes up on the desktop
[07:17] <DaSkreech> That name it comes up as is the name you use
[07:17] <DaSkreech> aseigo_boston: Morning
[07:18] <bjoern__> bye
[07:18] <bjoern__> have good evening
[07:18] <aseigo_boston> DaSkreech: moin
[07:19] <MidMark> DaSkreech: ok but it doesn't work, it doesn't fetch all the dvd packages...
[07:19] <Kadran> hi can any one tells me what is this error means?
[07:19] <Kadran> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[07:20] <Kadran> it happens when i do 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:21] <DaSkreech> MidMark: Are you trying to install everything from the DVD on to your computer?
[07:22] <MidMark> DaSkreech: I want to install some other packages with adept from dvd
[07:23] <DaSkreech> MidMark: Why?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Why not from the net?
[07:23] <cristiano> hello people. can anyone remember me the url on the ubuntu site for the installation of 3rd party codecs? thx :)
[07:23] <robotgeek> cristiano, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:24] <MidMark> DaSkreech: because I'm writing a review for newby user and I want to make it for all people, also the people who doesn't have ADSL or fast connection...
[07:24] <cristiano> robotgeek: thx it was that i was looking for :)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> But have Dapper DVD :-)
[07:24] <iNiku> so... any problems with kde 3.5.3 so far?
[07:24] <DaSkreech>  I guess they could shipt
[07:24] <iNiku> should I update?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Umm hold on let me see
[07:25] <DaSkreech> imbrandon_zZz: Doh!
[07:25] <Kadran> iNiku: kde353 is kool
[07:25] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Can I get a little help?
[07:25] <cristiano> iNiku: kde353 is GO here :)
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I have been using it for 3 days with no issues
[07:26] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: sure
[07:26] <iNiku> okay, cool :)
[07:26] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: what's your problem now? :-)
[07:27] <mips> The installer does not have support for reiser4 ?
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I am using madwifi-ng also with no issues other than now have to use wpa-driver wext instead of wpa-madwifi (couldn't be bothered rebuilding wpa_supplicant)
[07:32] <robin_> MidMark: you did ask about the resolutin right ?
[07:32] <robin_> MidMark: resolution* ?
[07:32] <robin_> MidMark: you can modify it quite easily in the system settings->display app
[07:32] <_silje> do anyone know why i get a error with status 10 when i trie to install blackdown java; j2re1.4 ?
[07:32] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: have you tried NM with that yet?
[07:33] <MidMark> robin_: thanx this is fixed now, I have changed monitor and it is ok
[07:33] <MidMark> robin_: now I have the problem of sources
[07:33] <MidMark> robin_: adept doesn't fetch dvd for packages to install
[07:33] <robin_> MidMark: what problem of sources ?
[07:34] <robin_> MidMark, hmm I only use the internet for the packages.
[07:34] <robin_> MidMark: as source, so you always have the newest ones.
[07:35] <MidMark> robin_: yes so do I, but a newbie user that come and hasn't an adsl or internet connection cannot add anything with adept
[07:35] <mips> How do I format drives for reiser4 from installer ?
[07:35] <robin_> MidMark: adept lacks in modifying the respositories.
[07:36] <MidMark> robin_: yes a lot
[07:36] <robin_> MidMark: hmm, is apt-setup still available ?
[07:37] <MidMark> robin_: the problem is I'm writing a review and my target is to not to touch konsole never, like a newbie...
[07:37] <MidMark> robin_: too hard? :-P
[07:37] <robin_> MidMark: hmm, let me take a look at adept
[07:37] <robin_> MidMark: you'r writing for some website ?
[07:37] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: you compiled madwifi-ng yourself? from svn or a snapshot?
[07:37] <MidMark> robin_: yes
[07:37] <robin_> MidMark: which website :) ?
[07:38] <_silje> do anyone know why i get a error with status 10 when i trie to install blackdown java; j2re1.4 ?
[07:38] <MidMark> robin_: that is secret for now :)
[07:38] <robin_> MidMark: hehe ok :)
[07:38] <imbrandon_zZz> _silje, try suns java instead ............................
[07:38] <imbrandon_zZz> !sun-java5-jre
[07:38] <ubotu> it has been said that sun-java5-jre is ... to install Suns Java enable multiverse and universe repositories and type "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" in a terminal
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Just from the snapshot they are daily (I think mine was a day old)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: How do I find out the name of a CDrom so that I can add it to sources.list
[07:39] <MidMark> robin_: my target is always use the gui and make always the most easy thing :)
[07:39] <robin_> MidMark: but for the resolution fix, did you touch the konsole :) ?
[07:39] <imbrandon_zZz> DaSkreech, apt-cdrom
[07:39] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: there is a apt-cdrom
[07:39] <MidMark> robin_: no :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Ahhh
[07:39] <DaSkreech> MidMark: There you go :)
[07:39] <_silje> imbrandon_zZz: I realy want blackdown java:P
[07:39] <robin_> MidMark: ok =)
[07:39] <RavenTest> Is there a Mozilla-sunbird built for kubuntu ??
[07:39] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: okay, I might give that a try
[07:39] <_silje> Unpacking ssh (from .../ssh_1%3a3.6.1p2-5_i386.deb) ...
[07:39] <DaSkreech> RavenTest: Good question. I doubt it though
[07:39] <MidMark> DaSkreech: what?
[07:39] <_silje> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh_1%3a3.6.1p2-5_i386.deb
[07:39] <_silje> (--unpack):
[07:39] <_silje>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[07:39] <_silje> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:39] <_silje>  /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh_1%3a3.6.1p2-5_i386.deb
[07:39] <_silje> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:40] <_silje> only that im trying to install java
[07:40] <iNiku> although... the standard dapper madwifi works fine for me
[07:40] <imbrandon_zZz> dont paste in here
[07:40] <robin_> _silje: take a look at the topic please :)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> MidMark: apt-cdrom is the solution to your problems
[07:40] <robotgeek> _silje: please dont paste here, use pastein
[07:40] <RavenTest> DaSkreech: ok thanks
[07:40] <robin_> _silje: no copy paste here
[07:40] <iNiku> apart from NM
[07:40] <_silje> sorry bobbys
[07:40] <MidMark> DaSkreech: via konsole?
[07:40] <robotgeek> MidMark: so, adept has no way to add cdroms?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> RavenTest: It's still too hope-it-works=ish
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: I wanted to fix the fact my fglrx locks the computer on shutdown sometime - so built 2.6.16 (applyed the real time patches as well as I had been meaning to) then build madwifi-ng
[07:41] <robin_> MidMark: you can use apt-cdrom, but .. if you start to install from the dvd, isn't the dvd already added in sources.list ?
[07:41] <MidMark> robotgeek: breezy fetch into dvd, don't know you dapper doesn't
[07:41] <DaSkreech> imbrandon awakens!!
[07:41] <MidMark> robin_: no, this is the problem!
[07:41] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: ah, cool... any problems with 2.6.16?
[07:41] <MidMark> robin_: a bug I think
[07:41] <robin_> MidMark: I would call that a bug..
[07:41] <robotgeek> MidMark: hmm, i thought that it should popup a thing, not sure. never done it before
[07:41] <cbo> hello all. is there any trick to use i386 repositories in an amd64 system for all the non ported yet packages?
[07:41] <Healot> I had problem with Kubuntu installation using the alternate CD, during the "Select and Install Package", my screen went blank
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: Non whatsoever (and it feels so much faster because of the realtime patches)
[07:42] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: there's no ubuntu patched 2.6.16 available, is there?
[07:42] <MidMark> robin_: I'm searching the exact string to add in adept
[07:42] <cbo> Healot: did you solve it?
[07:42] <imbrandon> cbo, check your apt.conf
[07:42] <MidMark> robin_: to have fetching with dvd....
[07:42] <MidMark> back in 15 mins
[07:42] <robin_> MidMark: well you could use first apt-cdrom
[07:42] <DaSkreech> james_xxx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu
[07:42] <cbo> imbrandon: ok
[07:42] <DaSkreech> THey have a we need help list :)
[07:42] <robin_> MidMark: which it seems add quite easily the cdrom to your apt sources
[07:42] <h3sp4wn> iNiku: No mine is just patched with http://people.redhat.com/~mingo/realtime-preempt/patch-2.6.16-rt26 from vanilla
[07:42] <robin_> MidMark: and than copy paste that line
[07:42] <robin_> MidMark: into your review ;)
[07:43] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: okay
[07:43] <MidMark> robin_: ok trying
[07:43] <cbo> imbrandon: what do i have to do with apt.conf?
[07:43] <Healot> cbo: I have my own workaround, install GRUB after Base Install
[07:44] <Healot> and then wait for the LED to finish for "Select and Install" stage and "Copy Remaining Packages" stage, press Enter and reboot
[07:44] <imbrandon> cbo you woudl setup a chroot for i386, you cant just install an i386 pkg in a x64 sys
[07:45] <cbo> healot: thanks
[07:45] <_silje> cant anyone please help me?
[07:45] <Healot> cbo: experience the same problem?
[07:45] <MidMark> robin_: it works, but it is not so user friendly....
[07:45] <iNiku> h3sp4wn: so have you tried NM yet, is the scanning problem solved?
[07:46] <Healot> i did that using expert mode... so I can skip the two stage after Base "Install"
[07:46] <cbo> imbrandon: i was following a howto made for breezy, the first step is to install dchroot but package doesnt exist
[07:46] <robin_> MidMark: true, It's a shame adept doesn't have the same repository management as synaptic
[07:46] <imbrandon> brb
[07:47] <cbo> healot: my screen went blank after pressing 'install' in the alternate cd. I've solved it using the vga='dontremember' tip for laptops
[07:47] <robin_> MidMark: anyway, you should report it as a bug, kubuntu should of course add the dvd to the sources.list if you start the install from the dvd in the first place :)
[07:48] <Healot> vga= option?
[07:48] <MidMark> robin_: yes there are a lot of bugs in this release
[07:48] <robin_> MidMark: I haven't encounter as much as in breezy :)
[07:48] <Healot> OK, I'll try that, thanks cbo
[07:48] <robin_> MidMark: many*
[07:48] <MidMark> robin_: no right resolution in my lcd, no sound yet, no internet (missing dns), no cd-rom sources in adept, no italian languages installed
[07:49] <InfraRed> kubuntu installer is cute :)
[07:49] <_hasso_> anyone here responsible for kubuntu web?
[07:49] <robin_> MidMark: hmm, I haven't any of those issues (except the resolution).
[07:49] <Healot> I need the alternate cause I need LVM and RAID configure for my workstation
[07:49] <robin_> MidMark: to be honest I'm quite impressed, finally my wifi works without using ndiswrapper.
[07:50] <robin_> MidMark: but than, the application to use WPA encryption has to be installed seperatly..
[07:50] <cbo> healot: you're wellcome
[07:50] <MidMark> robin_: I know this is a great release, but there are some regressions from breezy very bad
[07:50] <pestilence> is there anything like NetworkManager for kubuntu?
[07:50] <MidMark> robin_: language first but dvd sources then...
[07:50] <pestilence> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[07:50] <robin_> pestilence: yes, knetworkmanager
[07:50] <robin_> pestilence: works great
[07:50] <pestilence> does it work well?
[07:50] <robin_> pestilence: using it now :)
[07:50] <pestilence> ok :-D
[07:51] <iNiku> wow, kde 3.5.3 screwed up my X colors somehow
[07:51] <MidMark> robin_: and language I have reported in flight-6 as well
[07:51] <pestilence> it transparently moves from wireless networks to wired networks?
[07:51] <dontm> man happy dapper day quickly turned into dapper disaster for me last night
[07:51] <robin_> MidMark: yes, kubuntu releases lack on the QA part
[07:51] <dontm> everything was awesome until i rebooted and lost network connectivity
[07:51] <iNiku> they are totally messed up, kind of like a negative picture...
[07:51] <dontm> already tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:51] <dontm> ifdown eth0
[07:51] <dontm> ifup eth0
[07:51] <robin_> pestilence: only using wifi, but it works great
[07:52] <dontm> ifconfig -a shows that im pulling an ip from my router via dhcp
[07:52] <pestilence> robin_, it automatically detects networks?
[07:52] <dontm> dont know what else to try =-/
[07:52] <robin_> pestilence: I even see many more wifi network in the area than with windows :D
[07:52] <robin_> pestilence: yes
[07:52] <pestilence> robin_, cool.  does it do wpa?
[07:52] <robin_> pestilence: and support WPA out of the box
[07:52] <robin_> pestilence: yes :)
[07:52] <pestilence> robin_, awesome!
[07:52] <robin_> pestilence: yep
[07:52] <MidMark> bug #39483
[07:52] <pestilence> i'm installing now.  i have used whereami for the longest time, but am so sick of it
[07:53] <robin_> pestilence: only to have it automatically connects you have to turn on essid on your wifi router.
[07:53] <MidMark> and so on, I'm filling a lot of bug report
[07:53] <robin_> pestilence: otherwise you have to do it manually every time.. at least here.
[07:53] <pestilence> robin_, ok...i'm giving it a shot, bbiab
[07:53] <robin_> pestilence: but it works great, i'm quite impressed :)
[07:53] <pestilence> great :)
[07:53] <brosio> ehy there is a new version of amule cause a security fix but the package on apt isn't update yet
[07:54] <robin_> MidMark: but as I said before, I did it too with breezy, and some of them where left in the freezer until a month ago :
[07:54] <robin_> :(
[07:54] <robin_> brosio: isn't backported?
[07:54] <MidMark> robin_: yes but language bug is major in my opnion
[07:54] <brosio> robin_: backported ? what does it means ?
[07:55] <frank23> MidMark: it may be because you didn't have net access during installation. not sure about that though
[07:55] <robin_> brosio: I meant, sometimes security fixes are maded back in older version..
[07:55] <cbo> does someone know which package replaces dchroot? it was available in breezy to make a chroot environment in order to install i386 packages on it in an amd64 system.
[07:55] <robin_> brosio: because newer versions contaitns extra feautres, and so extra bugs :)
[07:55] <robin_> MidMark: true
[07:55] <robin_> MidMark: very big one :)
[07:55] <brosio> mmm
[07:55] <brosio> the changelog of newversion
[07:55] <frank23> cbo: its in universe
[07:55] <robin_> brosio: BUT i'm not sure of that :)
[07:56] <frank23> !info dchroot
[07:56] <ubotu> dchroot: (Execute commands under different root filesystems), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[07:56] <brosio> is only security fix
[07:56] <brosio> so
[07:56] <cbo> frank23: ok thanks
[07:56] <robin_> MidMark: they really screwed up breezy by adding to the release version the newest KDE version, (which wasn't in the Release candidate release), so they broke all kinds of stuff on the day of the release
[07:57] <robin_> MidMark: I think kubuntu lacks testing ...
[07:57] <robin_> MidMark: and maybe not enough people to deal with all the bugs.
[07:57] <Bazzi> kubuntu lacked support for some time but I think it's getting way better now
[07:57] <robin_> true
[07:57] <uscg_corey> is there a way to view images in an email w/o adding sender to contact list and w/o enabling imagest o be shown in all messages in evolution?
[07:58] <Bazzi> the last 2 months in dapper cev cycle transformed it from unusable to "ok"
[07:58] <Bazzi> dev cycle*
[07:58] <robin_> but I think ubuntu has better quality, although I'm a huge Gnome hater :)
[07:58] <iNiku> hmm. does kdm on 3.5.3 show the login about half a line too high on anyone else's system?
[07:58] <robin_> iNiku: didn't notice
[07:58] <frank23> kde 3.5.3 is out?
[07:59] <Bazzi> iNiku: yep login screen is a bit broken, here
[07:59] <robin_> iNiku: oh is that new kde, haven't test it.
[07:59] <iNiku> robin_: as in, the login name is about half a line higher than the login prompt
[07:59] <Bazzi> the inputs don't have borders at all here
[07:59] <iNiku> yep
[07:59] <Bazzi> and the login name is too high
[07:59] <frank23> Bazzi: I'm not in a hurry to switch kde
[07:59] <robin_> iNiku: I wouldnt' dare to upgrade it now :)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Anyone use picard?
[07:59] <iNiku> Bazzi: that too, although I suppose the borders could habve been lost on purpose
[07:59] <iNiku> but the login name being too high definitely looks like a bug
[07:59] <robin_> because newer is not always better :)
[07:59] <Bazzi> iNiku: it looks like accidental though
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Instead of Musicbrainz?
[08:00] <iNiku> Bazzi: yeah, I agree
[08:00] <ctothej> how do i install flash player on AMD64 firefox?
[08:00] <iNiku> things look good otherwise, though
[08:00] <ctothej> or any browser for that matter
[08:00] <brosio> clothej u can't
[08:01] <Bazzi> wait for flash 9 :)
[08:01] <robin_> ctothej: mission impossible IV
[08:01] <iNiku> although for some reason the update screwed up my X colors and required a reboot to set them right again
[08:01] <ctothej> brosio: isnt there a way to use 32bit plugin?
[08:01] <ctothej> oh man
[08:01] <robin_> ctothej: although you can run firefox in a i386 chroot
[08:01] <iNiku> but it's probably a feature of the graphics chipset on this laptop
[08:01] <ctothej> why wouldnt macromedia/adobe develop a 64 bit player?
[08:01] <ctothej> wtf is wrong with them
[08:02] <Bazzi> ctothej: they do for flash 9
[08:02] <robin_> way overdue
[08:02] <brosio> ctothej take a while and they do it on flash 9
[08:02] <Bazzi> they skipped flash 8 for amd64/linux because of incompetence
[08:02] <Bazzi> err I mean...
[08:02] <robin_> and for windows 64 bit too :)
[08:02] <ctothej> is there already a flash 9?
[08:02] <cioban> hi all
[08:02] <Bazzi> those poor win64 souls...
[08:02] <robin_> I think it is possitive that adobe own macromedia know
[08:03] <robin_> now*
[08:03] <robin_> for the linux compatibility issues..
[08:03] <robin_> bye cioban
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Grrr
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Ok so I would really like to have musicbrainz with mp3 support
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Is that possible?
[08:04] <Bazzi> possibly
[08:04] <robin_> I thought so
[08:04] <robin_> I did have it once, no idea how :)
[08:05] <ctothej> Flash player 9 public beta is only available for Win and Mac... bastards
[08:05] <robin_> DaSkreech: ty :)
[08:05] <robin_> DaSkreech: amarok doesn't support it ?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> robin_: not by default it seems
[08:05] <robin_> DaSkreech: have you asked in #amarok ?
[08:05] <DaSkreech>  And musicbrainz has moved on to picard
[08:06] <DaSkreech> So I tried to install picard but #amarok reports they don't support it
[08:06] <robin_> DaSkreech: picard ? from the enterprise ?
[08:06] <OmniD> What is a popular Linux TV tuner program?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> So I'm back to good old musicbrainz with no mp3 support
[08:06] <robin_> DaSkreech: I don't know picard
[08:06] <DaSkreech> robin_: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagger
[08:06] <DeadS0ul> OmniD: kdetv =D
[08:07] <OmniD> nah that's not the one I heard of
[08:07] <OmniD> I'll try that one too I guess
[08:07] <OmniD> but without apt-get or the repositories working I don't wanna go digging around for too many programs
[08:08] <OmniD> (for me anyways)
[08:09] <pestilence> so how do i get wpa going on knetworkmanager.  i've never used wpa before
[08:09] <MidMark> robin_: I have filed some bugs... also in ubiquity, the problem is ALL tests are done in english and this is wrong, because non-english installations have ALWAYS more bugs
[08:09] <pestilence> i configured my router (netgear mr814) to do wpa-psk
[08:09] <pestilence> what settings do i need in knetworkmanager?
[08:09] <cioban> do u speak german here too?
[08:09] <pestilence> cioban, no, #ubuntu-de
[08:09] <pestilence> or #kubuntu-de
[08:10] <PPower> hello all. im upgrading to kde 3.5.3 and i heard that during the night it will do stuff called prelink. my pc will not be on during the night. is it critical?
[08:12] <visik7> I've put a kubuntu live cd into an asus v6j befor boot I select 1400x1050 fb goes to it
[08:12] <visik7> but X goes to 1024x768
[08:13] <robin_> pestilence: sorry I was afk
[08:13] <robin_> pestilence: have you get it to work ?
[08:13] <pestilence> no, not yet
[08:13] <pestilence> robin_, what settings do i need to do WPA-PSK?
[08:13] <robin_> MidMark: yes, but I think the vast majority uses the english version :)
[08:13] <FoodcoMan> Is Cedega the only DirectX supported version of Wine?
[08:13] <robin_> pestilence: depends
[08:14] <pestilence> robin_, i've never used wpa before, so i really don't have a clue
[08:14] <robin_> pestilence: well
[08:14] <robin_> pestilence: first does it use wpa 1 or 2 ?
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> you need just the preshared key you set in the router
[08:14] <pestilence> ok, i have that
[08:14] <pestilence> i don't know
[08:14] <robin_> pestilence: and you have to choose between TKIP or AES
[08:14] <pestilence> robin_, i'm not sure what version wpa it uses
[08:15] <robin_> pestilence: probably one than I think.
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> unless you know otherwise it will probably be WPA TKIP
[08:15] <pestilence> robin_, my router doesn't give me any of these choices.
[08:15] <robin_> pestilence: hmm probably TKIp than
[08:15] <robin_> pestilence: or try the auto mode
[08:15] <pestilence> i tried auto
[08:16] <robin_> pestilence: ok, than try all 4 settings
[08:16] <pestilence> it should most likely be "personal", though right?
[08:16] <robin_> pestilence: so WPA 1 WPA2 and TKIP and AES
[08:16] <robin_> pestilence: yes
[08:17] <robin_> pestilence: just add your essid, the encryption on WPA personal, and WPA 1 or WPA2 and try the TKIP and AES
[08:17] <pestilence> it gets stuck at ip configuration
[08:17] <robin_> pestilence: no dhcp ?
[08:17] <robin_> pestilence: have you already tried all 4 ?
[08:17] <pestilence> not yet :)  it takes a while for it to time out
[08:17] <robin_> pestilence: oh, well if it does work, it goes quite fast
[08:18] <robin_> pestilence: what router do you have ?
[08:18] <pestilence> for wpa 2 it hangs at "configuring device"
[08:18] <pestilence> robin_, netgear mr814
[08:19] <MidMark> robin_: all people who can understand english :)
[08:20] <klerfayt> how you prevent from letting user b to know user a password if user a password=sudo?
[08:20] <robin_> MidMark: yes :), I always hate to have use software in my own language
[08:20] <robin_> MidMark: because it just sounds weird in Dutch :)
[08:21] <robin_> pestilence: well it doesn't support WPA2 :)
[08:21] <robin_> pestilence: and even not WPA1, but it does support WPA-PSK, I dont' know the difference between those two....
[08:21] <robin_> pestilence: but just stick to WPA1
[08:22] <iNiku> WPA-PSK just means Pre-Shared Key, it can be WPA1 or WPA2
[08:22] <robin_> iNiku: well accordign to the netgear site, it doesn't support WPA1 and WPA2, but does WPA-PSK
[08:22] <robin_> iNiku: so probably an error there, but I don't think it support WPA2
[08:23] <iNiku> robin_: that probably means it doesn't do WPA2 so it only does WPA-PSK
[08:23] <iNiku> actually there is no WPA1, there's WPA and WPA2
[08:23] <iNiku> and WPA-PSK can apply to both
[08:23] <robin_> iNiku: roger
[08:24] <robin_> pestilence: you have enable dhcp server on the router?
[08:24] <pestilence> robin_, yes, and it worked fine in wep mode (not using knetworkmanager, though)
[08:25] <robin_> pestilence: you have windos to try the WPA mode ?
[08:25] <robin_> windows*
[08:25] <pestilence> nope
[08:26] <robin_> pestilence: ehm, does it just hang at ip configuraiton or does it gave an error
[08:26] <robin_> @
[08:27] <pestilence> well, i killed it and now things are really broken
[08:27] <pestilence> the app says "networkmanager not running"
[08:28] <pestilence> i think networkmanager is crashing
[08:28] <fatejudger> has anyone had trouble with the usplash shutdown not working very well after the last round of updates?
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: fglrx ?
[08:29] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: yes
[08:30] <eqisow> afternoon fellas
[08:30] <pestilence> i guess it's off to see if a reboot fixes anything :-/
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: I have had that problem ever since I have been using dapper (with ubuntu's kernel)
[08:30] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: it worked for awhile
[08:30] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: then they broke something again, and now it's really messed up
[08:31] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: I don't believe it has anything to do with fgrlx though
[08:31] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: since my computer with an nvidia card has the exact same problem
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: Does it shut down properly with ati ?
[08:32] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: no
[08:32] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: I have to "pull the plug" so to speak
[08:32] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: there's something very wrong with this particular setup
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: i.e the open source driver not fglrx
[08:33] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: oh, I haven't tried
[08:33] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: I know my intel graphics and nvidia comps shut down fine
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: I thought you just said your computer with an nvidia card has the exact same problem
[08:33] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: it doesn't show the usplash
[08:33] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: but it does shut down
[08:33] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: this computer doesn't shut down at all
[08:34] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: it just hangs after it kills X
[08:34] <linuxmonkey> !nvidia
[08:34] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: I have managed to get mine to shutdown properly using 2.6.16 but haven't been using it long enough to know whether it is fixed 100% of the time
[08:35] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: isn't that the kernel version Dapper uses?
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: Dapper uses a highly patched 2.6.15
[08:35] <linuxmonkey> hrmmmm ok those steps to install nvidia drivers dont work, any ideas?
[08:36] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: meh, I hate compiling the kernel
[08:36] <linuxmonkey> anyone?
[08:36] <dontm> h3sp4wn: after my first reboot after upgrading to dapper, i lost network connectivity.  i already tried /etc/init.d/networking restart to no avail and ifconfig -a says im pulling an ip and my router web interface from another machine confirms my linux box on pulling the same ip on the router via dhcp.  any other ideas on what ot try?
[08:37] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: it worked fine for a long time
[08:37] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: does this affect fglrx in Gnome too?
[08:37] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: because that would be a huge bug
[08:37] <test34> if you enable auto-login, it only auto-login from the local computer right? ie: not remote connections
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: No linux kernel developers are bothered about people using tainted kernels if the bug cannot be reproduced with the opensource drivers they won't even look at it (unless maybe they have the card themselves and want to fix it)
[08:39] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: I don't think it affects gnome
[08:39] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: but everyone using (K)ubuntu uses that patched kernel
[08:39] <fatejudger> ah
[08:39] <fatejudger> that would be why nobody cares
[08:40] <rzei> doesn't kubuntu by default play mp3 files?
[08:40] <MidMark> robin_: italian is so sweet :-P but I prefer english too because it has shorter words
[08:40] <fatejudger> rzei: no
[08:40] <ToinS> rzei: no
[08:40] <fatejudger> rzei: well, maybe now that they use Xine
[08:40] <rzei> amarok with xine engine (no other engines available) seems silently skip all those... missing plugin?
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> dontm: I don't understand what you are saying
[08:41] <ToinS> rzei: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[08:42] <dontm> h3sp4wn after i upgraded, everythign worked fine.  i restart, my net connection is down
[08:42] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: I'm thinking about formatting and installing Kubuntu 6.06 final
[08:42] <dontm> h3sp4wn ifconfig -a returns eth0 is configured properly and is even pulling the correct ip from my router
[08:42] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: though I doubt that would help much
[08:42] <dontm> h3sp4wn if i run /etc/init.d/networking restart that doesnt help
[08:42] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: the weird thing is it that it used to work -most- of the time
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: I don't think it would either
[08:43] <dontm> h3sp4wn if i go to my windows machine which is online and go to my router, i see my linux host pulling an ip from the router via dhcp
[08:43] <dontm> h3sp4wn yet my linux box still cant even ping my router
[08:43] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: but, seemingly randomly, it would hang
[08:43] <dontm> h3sp4wn i dont kow what else to try
[08:43] <h3sp4wn> dontm: Are you using wireless ?
[08:43] <dontm> h3sp4wn no wired
[08:43] <fatejudger> Canonical seriously needs to hire more Kubuntu devels
[08:44] <h3sp4wn> Its primarily a gnome based distribution
[08:44] <jpatrick> fatejudger: why?
[08:44] <dontm> h3sp4wn any ideas?
[08:44] <fatejudger> there aren't enough people to fix major problems like the inability to shut down your computer
[08:44] <rzei> can't find that akode-mpeg in dapper universe... is that package still relevant?
[08:44] <fatejudger> rzei: no, it's deprecated
[08:45] <fatejudger> h3sp4wn: they're working on changing that
[08:45] <ToinS> rzei: you have to put backdor repository on your /etc/source.lits file
[08:45] <OmniD> I'm trying to remember the name of a tuner program
[08:45] <jpatrick> fatejudger, rzei: now known as libakode2-mpeg
[08:45] <rzei> jpatrick: oki..
[08:45] <h3sp4wn> fatejudger: Ati supports dapper (you can use its installer to generate dapper packages) if it doesn't work its ati's problem not kubuntu/ubuntu
[08:46] <fatejudger> most of the work the kubuntu devels do is patching other "supposedly working" programs
[08:47] <fatejudger> just because they're considered stable doesn't mean they'll work in harmony with thousands of other programs
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> That are available in source form not unknown binary blobs that go in the kernel
[08:47] <fatejudger> especially something as critical as a kernel
[08:47] <rzei> hmm noup, after installing libakode2-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad (+depedencies) amarok still doesn't play
[08:47] <jpatrick> fatejudger: kernel team does that
[08:47] <crimsun> rzei: dapper?
[08:47] <jpatrick> rzei: restart sound system
[08:48] <fatejudger> jpatrick: right, but apparently this bug doesn't affect Gnome, right?
[08:48] <jpatrick> whatever the bug is
[08:48] <rzei> crimsun: yep
[08:48] <crimsun> rzei: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[08:48] <rzei> crimsun: ofc not.. thanks
[08:48] <crimsun> rzei: and make sure you're using the latest 1.4.0a packages from kubuntu.org :)
[08:49] <fatejudger> all I'm saying is that a major bug like that could have been prevented
[08:49] <rzei> crimsun: cant seem to find that extracodecs package, referene though exists
[08:49] <fatejudger> and part of the problem lies with the lack of devels to complete all that work in the short 6 month timeframe
[08:49] <rzei> crimsun: and i have got dapper universe in package lists
[08:50] <crimsun> rzei: enable the multiverse repository.
[08:51] <rzei> crimsun: okei, thanks
[08:52] <word> What does this error mean - http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750974 ?
[08:53] <h3sp4wn> dontm: What is the output of 'route'
[08:53] <jpatrick> word: X ain't running
[08:53] <word> jpatrick: Umm...wouldn't that mean kubuntu wouldn't start?
[08:54] <eqisow> I would think so, yes
[08:54] <eqisow> when do you get that error?
[08:54] <Healot> the only problem so far with LTS Kubuntu, is i have problem with 8xx Intel Graphics controller
[08:54] <word> Whenever I open an app in terminal
[08:54] <Healot> leaving me a blank screen while installing
[08:54] <word> Kubuntu starts up so I'm assuming X is starting.
[08:55] <eqisow> you get it when you try to run gui apps from terminal?
[08:55] <eqisow> or any app?
[08:55] <word> gui apps not command line ones
[08:56] <eqisow> hmm
[08:56] <rzei> crimsun: umm where could i get those 1.4.0 packages? this amarok says its only 1.3.9
[08:56] <eqisow> try running a gui app with sudo
[08:56] <pestilence> Healot, file a bug
[08:56] <eqisow> just for kicks
[08:57] <dontm> h3sp4wn i dont have axs to the machine right now. im at work. but if u give me a list of things to try i can try when i get home in like 3hrs
[08:57] <rzei> crimsun: aah i need to add more repos
[08:57] <dontm> so just "route" ?
[08:57] <word> eqisow: No difference.
[08:57] <Healot> pestilence: someone already
[08:57] <Healot> did
[08:58] <Healot> it didn't happen in breezy, sigh
[08:58] <pestilence> Healot, ah, ok
[08:58] <h3sp4wn> dontm: I don't know where to begin really in debugging that without getting you to do alot of commands I don't really know which ones would be necessary if dhcp is working I dunno
[08:58] <pestilence> Healot, did you get it installed, then?
[08:58] <Healot> pestilence: i have my workaround
[08:59] <Healot> vga option and blindman's game :-
[08:59] <robin_> pestilence: I didn't work ?
[08:59] <pestilence> robin_, no, i give up.  back to whereami :)
[09:00] <dontm> h3sp4wn is there an online resource?  i mean all the stuff on the wiki is like "ifup and down "  i need something more extensive and better commented
[09:01] <Healot> btw adept is ugly, imho, synaptic is more logical
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> dontm: With wired it usually just works you could try setting a static ip address I suppose (is the router a netgear / linksys or another pc you built before)
[09:01] <dontm> i mean can i make use of general debian network doc?
[09:01] <dontm> it's a netgear router
[09:01] <oklinux> how do I install java in kubuntu ?
[09:01] <robin_> pestilence: hmm ok, too bad it didn't work out
[09:01] <dontm> and the router web interface shows the linux box in the lan ip table
[09:01] <Bladesonfire> !java
[09:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:01] <dontm> makes no sense
[09:02] <rzei> err.. why does apt hold back some updates, and doesn't tell me the reason for it?
[09:02] <rzei> it's the amarok 1.4 updates this time
[09:02] <dontm> rzei: manually right click them and select install
[09:02] <Bladesonfire> rzei: what do you mean?
[09:02] <pestilence> robin_, i didn't expect it to ;)  k/ubuntu still has a ways to go before it matches windows in terms of laptop connectivity
[09:02] <pestilence> which is dissapointing
[09:03] <dontm> pestilence couldnt agree more.  sad but true =-(
[09:03] <rzei> Bladesonfire: well that.. there are 3 updates kept back after sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:03] <eqisow> word, are you still there?
[09:03] <dontm> there was SO much hype about dapper on digg and /. and it's like well crap what doesnt work now?
[09:03] <word> eqisow: Yah.
[09:03] <eqisow> from what I can tell, that error usually occurs whenever a user other than the one that is logged in tries to run a gui app
[09:03] <dontm> =-/
[09:04] <rzei> dontm: well adept wanted to upgrade those right away :)
[09:04] <dontm> it's ALMOST there, just needs more polish
[09:04] <eqisow> are you using su (switch user) or anything? Perhaps you have multiple users logged in?
[09:04] <robin_> pestilence: it is, but It worked for me, maybe the problem you encounterd has to do with your router :)
[09:04] <word> eqisow: Nope.
[09:04] <dontm> rzei are you using the graphical update manager?
[09:05] <robin_> pestilence: but well linux is progressing...
[09:05] <rzei> dontm: well i prefer using apt from command line but now adept (the graphical one) solved my problem
[09:05] <pestilence> robin_, i think it might have more to do with my wireless card, but really i don't get enough feedback from knetworkmanager to determine what the problem is
[09:05] <dontm> h3sp4wn the only other thing i can think of is that my kubu install is in a virtual machine
[09:05] <pestilence> robin_, most of the time it hangs at a stage like "configuring network card"
[09:06] <Bladesonfire> pestilence: Just being nosy, but what's your problem?
[09:06] <dontm> but the fact that im pulling an ip and showing up in the router table leads me to believe the vmnet adapters are workign just fine
[09:06] <pestilence> Bladesonfire, well, i tried to use knetworkmanager...couldn't get it to do anything for me
[09:06] <pestilence> Bladesonfire, not wpa, not wep.  didn't try unencrypted, but i gave up
[09:06] <pekuja> my installation crashed :-[
[09:06] <dontm> doest knetworkmanager help correct wired networking problems too?
[09:06] <pestilence> dontm, i don't think so
[09:06] <Bladesonfire> pestilence: did you clear your kon
[09:07] <Bladesonfire> err
[09:07] <pekuja> I'm making a bug report as soon as I get my registration info from launchpad
[09:07] <uwo> hi - where can i find the kicker applet icons?
[09:07] <dontm> sigh man this is so frustrating
[09:07] <pestilence> dontm, what's your issue
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> dontm: Have you tried using NAT instead of bridging (is it vmware you are using)
[09:07] <dontm> h3sp4wn yes
[09:07] <dontm> h3sp4wn tried, bridged, host only, nat
[09:07] <dontm> and after ever change i /etc/init.d/networking restart'ed
[09:07] <pestilence> dontm, so you are getting an IP?  can you ping the gateway?
[09:08] <dontm> still pull <IP_ADDRESS> and the same reflects in my router table
[09:08] <dontm> nope, cant ping the gateway.  mks no sense at all
[09:08] <pekuja> has there been any other cases of the installer crashing?
[09:08] <pestilence> dontm, so ping <IP_ADDRESS> fails?
[09:08] <dontm> correct
[09:08] <dontm> times out
[09:08] <pestilence> dontm, hmm.
[09:08] <dontm> pestilence it makes no sense i know
[09:08] <Bladesonfire> pestilence: do you only have an lo in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:08] <pestilence> dontm, how about route -n ?
[09:09] <dontm> havent tried that yet
[09:09] <dontm> i will try that when i get home otnight
[09:09] <pestilence> Bladesonfire, my networking works fine, it's knetworkmanager that doesn't :-D
[09:09] <dontm> also
[09:09] <dontm> what is the command to edit the network/interface file?
[09:09] <Bladesonfire> pestilence: Well, networkmanager has problems if there's more text in /etc/network/interfaces than needs be
[09:09] <dontm> i tried kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces but it didnt work
[09:09] <pestilence> Bladesonfire, oh.
[09:09] <Bladesonfire> pestilence: plus, it doesn't like static ip addresses
[09:10] <Bladesonfire> (although I don't know if there's been an update since to fix that problem)
[09:10] <Bladesonfire> I use networkmanager as well, and I can connect at home that's encrypted with WPA, but at work, I can't get on the network at all
[09:10] <h3sp4wn> networkmanager just doesn't work properly (constantly polls the network for just the reason of a signal strength meter which is pointless)
[09:10] <pussfeller> yar my console is messed up
[09:10] <pussfeller> i cant see the bottom in my vts
[09:10] <Bladesonfire> Even though it's also using WPA... something's throwing it off, though
[09:11] <meta> !easysource
[09:11] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:11] <pestilence> Bladesonfire, well, i think i've seen enough of it to know that i am less frustrated with whereami :)
[09:11] <Bladesonfire> h3sp4wn: this may be off, but I believe it's always pulling in case the network goes down, and if so, then it'll switch the network so you stay connected
[09:11] <dontm> hrm...just googled man route
[09:11] <pussfeller> and my nvidia card isnt working after the upgrade so i cant see to type anything
[09:11] <Bladesonfire> hehe
[09:11] <dontm> route -n is to diag why route to dns failed
[09:11] <dontm> that's the least of my problems, i cant even ping my gateway's raw ip form
[09:11] <pestilence> although i haven't really tried wpa at all.  that is my next step
[09:12] <pestilence> dontm, not route to dns, routing period
[09:12] <pestilence> dontm, if your routing tables are messed up, ping won't work either
[09:12] <dontm> show numerical addresses instead of trying to determine symbolic host names. This is useful if you are trying to determine why the route to your nameserver has vanished.
[09:12] <dontm> pestilence ok suppose i run this and my routing talbes are fubared.  what do i do then?
[09:12] <pestilence> dontm, right.  but you are getting confused ;)
[09:13] <pestilence> dontm, well, you try to fix them of course!
[09:13] <dontm> how?
[09:13] <pestilence> dontm, well, your routing table really should be set by dhcp.  so i'm guessing there might be an extra line in there that's messing things up
[09:13] <pestilence> dontm, so you would delete that line
[09:13] <dontm> for example?
[09:14] <pestilence> dontm, but if your interfaces are configured properly in /etc/network/interfaces, you should be able to just reboot (assuming nothing else touches the routing tables, and i can't think of anything that would)
[09:14] <dontm> pestilence how do i mod that?
[09:14] <pestilence> dontm, how do you mod what
[09:14] <dontm> kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:14] <pestilence> dontm, that should work
[09:15] <dontm> when i issue that command i get a blank file
[09:15] <dontm> =-(
[09:15] <dontm> maybe that's my problem right there
[09:15] <pestilence> dontm, hmm...shouldn't be.
[09:15] <Healot> what's with the girl's name jeje
[09:15] <pestilence> dontm, so are you at this computer right now?
[09:15] <dontm> nope it's a vm on my home pc, im at work right now
[09:15] <dontm> just making sure i didnt overlook anything
[09:16] <pestilence> dontm, well then:)
[09:16] <dontm> but it seems that i didnt
[09:16] <dontm> i mean seriously, if it turns out taht my routing tables are messed up.  something is seriously wrong w/ the dist-upgrade command
[09:16] <dontm> i mean, that is ridiculous
[09:16] <dontm> it's crap like this that turns ppl off about linux
[09:16] <pestilence> dontm, so this was a dist-upgrade on a vm from breezy to dapper?
[09:16] <dontm> yes
[09:17] <dontm> breezy worked fine
[09:17] <pestilence> strange.
[09:17] <dontm> dapper worked fine
[09:17] <saj> hi guys, im trying to install the cedega time demo but when i download it i am greeted with a page with a lot of code on it? http://download.softpedia.com/linux/games/cedega_timedemo_installer
[09:17] <dontm> UNTIL I rebooted
[09:17] <saj> how do i install from that code?
[09:17] <pestilence> dontm, hmm.  were you running a firewall of any sort?
[09:17] <dontm> pestilence i followed the wiki verbatim
[09:17] <Bladesonfire> dontm: what happens when you open a console and "ls /etc/network/in*" ?
[09:17] <dontm> Bladesonfire i will also try that tonight
[09:18] <dontm> i'm writing all these commands down
[09:18] <pussfeller> 777777so how do i fix my console????
[09:18] <dontm> i see where ur going tho, good idea
[09:18] <pestilence> pussfeller, ?
[09:18] <dontm> verify my interface file is in the right place and contains the right info
[09:18] <pussfeller> my console is too big for my screen
[09:18] <pussfeller> i cant see the bottom, so i am typing by touch
[09:18] <pestilence> pussfeller, on your vt's?
[09:18] <pussfeller> yea
[09:19] <dontm> Bladesonfire can u think of anything else to try as well?
[09:20] <Bladesonfire> Well, ls just gives you a directory listing
[09:20] <pestilence> pussfeller, so is it just the last line that's cut off?
[09:20] <dontm> lol i know what ls does
[09:20] <pussfeller> and im getting some error abuot lib perl xml something stopping me from doing any more apt-ggetting
[09:20] <Bladesonfire> So if that comes up blank, that means the file doesn't exist... and who knows how that happened
[09:20] <pussfeller> kinda pestilane
[09:20] <pestilence> pussfeller, that's probably a refresh quirk...adjust it using the OSD of the monitor
 verify my interface file is in the right place and contains the right info
[09:20] <Bladesonfire> There's really no other commands you need
[09:21] <dontm> heh =-]
[09:21] <pestilence> pussfeller, what is the exact error
[09:21] <Bladesonfire> But if it is there, I wonder what's wrong with your "kdesu kate /etc/network/interaces/" command =P
[09:21] <dontm> hehe yeah ill dbl check for typos
[09:21] <dontm> alright that's a start
[09:21] <dontm> thanks guys
[09:21] <dontm> (and gals maybe i dont know)
[09:21] <dontm> tahnks folks
[09:21] <dontm> happy belated dapper day
[09:22] <saj> !cvs
[09:22] <pussfeller> heh that workd
[09:22] <pussfeller> durp
[09:23] <pussfeller> its something about libxml perl cant write to something about SAX pparser details in
[09:23] <pussfeller> in usr share perl5/xml sax.pm
[09:24] <pestilence> pussfeller, can you copy/paste the entire error into the pastebin
[09:25] <pussfeller> hmm i can cat into irssi cant i somehow
[09:26] <pestilence> don't do that.
[09:26] <alexandre> why the pt-br packages are missing fro the repositories?
[09:27] <alexandre> why the pt-br packages are missing from the repositories? (language support)
[09:27] <pussfeller> pestilence, i am stuck in vts coause nvidia isnt set up and I dont know how to get teh error into here
[09:27] <saj> how do you compile cvs?
[09:27] <saj> whats a cvs?
[09:28] <pestilence> pussfeller, you could always use w3m
[09:28] <alexandre> does anybody know why pt-br is missing ?
[09:29] <koriel> why can't I play divx movies with xine?
[09:29] <Healot> alexandre: no...
[09:29] <koriel> what should I install to play those files?
[09:29] <Bazzi> koriel libxine-extracodecs
[09:30] <Bladesonfire> !restrictedformats
[09:30] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:30] <koriel> Bazzi: from where?my repositories cant find this package
[09:31] <saj> !cedega
[09:31] <ubotu> saj: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:31] <Bazzi> multiverse
[09:31] <Bazzi> !+restrictedformats
[09:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:32] <nico8481> hi
[09:32] <pussfeller> how do i get apt errors into a file
[09:32] <koriel> Bazzi: can u paste me the url because I don't have it in adept
[09:33] <Bazzi> koriel: follow the link ubotu posted
[09:33] <koriel> ok
[09:33] <pestilence> pussfeller, apt-get command > outfile 2>&1
[09:33] <Blake7984> just went through the fakeraid guide on setting up ubuntu and i got it to boot, but i never did "base-config new" since base-config is no long included....how would i go about logging in now (since no usernames were added)
[09:34] <pestilence> Blake7984,  boot into rescue mode
[09:34] <Blake7984> how do i do that
[09:34] <pestilence> should be one of the options when you reboot
[09:35] <Blake7984> without livecd?
[09:35] <pestilence> "recovery mode" is what its called, actually
[09:35] <pestilence> yes, it will likely be the second option in grub
[09:35] <Blake7984> nope...installer wasnt used to install kubuntu...so grub setup was manual
[09:35] <Bladesonfire> or 4th... or sometimes 6th....
[09:36] <Blake7984> theres a "Ubuntu, memtest86+"  but thats it
[09:36] <pestilence> Blake7984, ok
[09:36] <pussfeller> !pastebin
[09:36] <pussfeller> !pastebin
[09:36] <pestilence> basically
[09:36] <pestilence> you want to append "single" to the boot command
[09:36] <pestilence> on mine, it is kernel    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[09:37] <Blake7984> alright sounds good, one sec
[09:37] <Blake7984> ok once that finishes booting what should i do
[09:37] <pestilence> add a user ;)
[09:37] <Blake7984> nm i see..it took me in as root :)
[09:38] <pestilence> yup.
[09:38] <Blake7984> ok after that and changing root pass...anything else i should do before rebooting?
[09:38] <saj> !cvs
[09:38] <ubotu> hmm... cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:38] <pestilence> i would add a user, not change the root password
[09:38] <Blake7984> i did both
[09:38] <pestilence> ok
[09:38] <pestilence> that's fine, then.  reboot
[09:39] <pestilence> sudo won't work, of course, unless you visudo and add that user to it
[09:39] <tommy_> do anyone here know what error status 10 means?
[09:40] <Blake7984> never used visudo before...how do i add my user account to it
[09:40] <koriel> hmmm, I'm starting to like kubuntu :)
[09:40] <Blake7984> just do:   blake   ALL=(ALL) ALL    ?
[09:41] <Healot> super sudo blake@
[09:41] <Blake7984> i just add that anywhere in the file?
[09:42] <Blake7984> hm i guess not since that doesnt work
[09:43] <eean> Riddell: ping
[09:44] <pussfeller> pestilence: its on gnomefreak.pastebin.com
[09:44] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[09:44] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <Riddell> eean: hi
[09:45] <Seantater_> anyone used ktorrent 2.0? is it any good?
[09:46] <eean> Riddell: have you looked at the .desktop thing that will be in 1.4.1?
[09:46] <eean> for systems without mp3s
[09:46] <pussfeller> but nvidia stuff appears to be current, so I don't know why my xserver wont start
[09:46] <eean> (in amarok of course)
[09:46] <pussfeller> !nvidia
[09:46] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:46] <tuxedup> the seantater for me ktorrent seems to be alot heavier on resources then other bit torrent clients
[09:47] <Riddell> eean: nope
[09:47] <Seantater_> tuxedup: what do you use?
[09:47] <Riddell> eean: oh, to install mp3 support?
[09:47] <eean> Riddell: right exactly
[09:47] <Riddell> eean: I asked them to do it, I've not looked at the progress but I'll make sure to look out for it when the beta is being packaged
[09:48] <eean> ok
[09:48] <tuxedup> usually bit tornado, i used to liek azeurus, but i cannot be doing with installing java (have no need for it) so i stick with bit tornado, its pretty basic but i dont dont do anything fancy, just let it run seed for a few days the file thats it
[09:48] <_rince_> good evening ladies and gentlemen
[09:48] <meister> nobend
[09:50] <Blake7984> uhm been a while since i messed with grub much....what do i have to do to make it use the menu.lst file after i update it
[09:52] <Healot> Blake7984: nothing, grub will automatically use the menu.lst settings after reboot
[09:52] <Blake7984> well its not for me
[09:52] <mbjerke> I never ever ever want the system pc speaker to beep.  ever.  On gentoo and archlinux I just removed the speaker kernel module, do I have to recompile the ubuntu kernel to make this a module?
[09:53] <Blake7984> every time i reboot it still uses old settings and i have to keep manually changing the lines in grub
[09:53] <pussfeller> i thot you had to install beep to get beeps
[09:53] <mbjerke> i didn't
[09:53] <mbjerke> and it is the most annoying sound in the world
[09:53] <Healot> Blake7984: because you edit it without the correct permission?
[09:53] <Blake7984> no the file is correctly saved right now
[09:53] <Blake7984> the data in the file is right
[09:54] <Blake7984> or maybe not...hold on
[09:54] <joshuafr> hi all
[09:54] <Healot> what "settings" did you change?
[09:54] <Blake7984> root, kernel, initrd...basically all of them
[09:54] <RobNyc> does kubuntu has any kde themes, or icon themes in the repository ?
[09:54] <Healot> you need root permission to save changes to menu.lst
[09:55] <Blake7984> i know, it saved....just in the wrong place on it or something...it went back and added new entries to replace my old ones it looks like
[09:55] <Healot> it's suppose to be in "/boot/grub/"
[09:55] <Blake7984> thats where it is...my lines were on the top of the file, correct, and still are...but now theres new lines at the bottom
[09:56] <Healot> Blake7984:  pastebin, so we can share whatever you did
[09:56] <joshuafr> I have a problem with kaffeine, I can't find the gstreamer engine for it :-(
[09:56] <Blake7984> cant...machine im doing it on isnt on internet yet...just a few though, might be figuring it out
[09:57] <Healot> joshuafr: you need to get rid of caffeine L)
[09:57] <Blake7984> theres also a menu.lst~ now for some reason
[09:57] <joshuafr> Healot: ?
[09:57] <Healot> Blake7984: the backup file, if you use nano or kate kwrite etc
[09:57] <Blake7984> oh ok
[09:58] <Healot> joshuafr: mp3 problem i guess?
[09:59] <keherman> Are there any labels for the Dapper CDs?
[09:59] <joshuafr> Healot: yes, and I can't view any xvid/divx files, they go to quickly
[09:59] <keherman> joshuafr, use vlc
[10:00] <Healot> joshuafr: there are some tips at kubuntu.org
[10:00] <joshuafr> keherman: why not totem when you are :-)
[10:00] <Healot> just open the FAQ section/ wiki too
[10:00] <DustyDingo> hi
[10:00] <DustyDingo> where can i set my network card to a startic IP for lan? (file)
[10:00] <Healot> well, vlc solves most of thou MPEG1/2/3 and OpenAVI bs
[10:01] <Bladesonfire> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:01] <DustyDingo> sounds weird, but i can't find anything in the docs for that
[10:01] <Bladesonfire> Make sure you're not running network-manager with that
[10:01] <Healot> DustyDingo: /etc/network/interfaces man for "interfaces" for more details
[10:01] <keherman> joshuafr, vlc is the best media player available
[10:01] <DustyDingo> Healot: thx, i must be blind
[10:02] <Bladesonfire> GUI: just go to System Settings
[10:02] <Bladesonfire> Probably a lot easier
[10:02] <DustyDingo> whole the time i was searching for any init files
[10:02] <Healot> well, Windows is still the best for multimedia bs
[10:02] <Healot> but Linux support getting better too
[10:03] <HymnToLife> Healot> Linux works great for pretty much everything
[10:03] <HymnToLife> exept DRM crap
[10:03] <Healot> then not everything :-)
[10:04] <pestilence> Healot, i would say linux works WAY better for anything other than DRM crap
[10:04] <pestilence> mplayer will play pretty much anything you give it
[10:04] <fatejudger> !sources.list
[10:04] <Blake7984> why is "Administrator mode" not working for any of the system settings (network, display, etc)
[10:04] <RobNyc> is it possible to do this.. i installed ubuntu dapper, installed kubuntu-desktop now decide i dont want gnome anymore .. and stay with kde
[10:05] <Healot> the user experience on Linux is rather challenging
[10:05] <osh_> RobNyc: yes, but gnome is notoriously hard to get rid of. But do try.
[10:05] <Bladesonfire> Blake7984: good question... one of the problems I"ve never been able to pinpoint the problem
[10:06] <Blake7984> lets hope a reboot helps...need to test this grub menu file anyways
[10:07] <DustyDingo> Healot: how i can rerun the runlevel scripts, so eth0 gets updated with my changes in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <DustyDingo> ?
[10:09] <pussfeller> ok i have x working but whyisnt my usb hd showing up on the desktop now
[10:10] <crimsun> DustyDingo: what did you change?
[10:11] <Healot> just run the networking script
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Can't beleive I have to keep windows around to go to Foxtrot :(
[10:11] <Healot> invoke-rc.d networking restart
[10:11] <Bladesonfire> Only Foxtrot?
[10:12] <DustyDingo> crimsun: i simplay want to rerun runlevel 3
[10:18] <pestilence> DustyDingo, you should be able to do init 1 and then init 3, but re-running individual scripts will be faster
[10:18] <pestilence> and more efficient
[10:19] <DustyDingo> pestilence: hm and how i do that?
[10:19] <pestilence> although i don't know if init works in ubuntu
[10:19] <Healot> invoke-rc.d networking restart
[10:19] <pestilence> DustyDingo, "sudo init 1"
[10:19] <Blake7984> ok so since i was using fakeraid, i wasnt able to do the normal install process...and i really havent done much of an install at all, other than making my machine boot....network isnt working, sound not working, and other stuff...how do i properly set things up now
[10:19] <Healot> prefix "sudo"
[10:19] <pestilence> DustyDingo, but i would do as Healot says, rerun any scripts you want in /etc/init.d
[10:19] <DustyDingo> Healot: thx
[10:20] <mus_dur> hello
[10:20] <pestilence> Blake7984, do you want a desktop?
[10:20] <Blake7984> yea
[10:20] <mus_dur> how can i install to xgl
[10:20] <pestilence> Blake7984, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <Blake7984> primarily desktop anyways
[10:20] <Blake7984> already did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <pestilence> ok, so what's the problem :)
[10:20] <Blake7984> im booted, im in kde and all
[10:20] <pestilence> oh
[10:20] <Blake7984> stuff isnt setup properly
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> whats LTS ?
[10:21] <pestilence> !lts
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> its it the full version ?
[10:21] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:21] <mus_dur> i didnt work this command sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[10:21] <Healot> Blake7984: what stuff, explain briefly
[10:21] <Blake7984> wont let me adjust system settings (administrator mode isnt working), network cards not working, sound not working
[10:21] <Blake7984> all of that stuff worked when booting livecd no problem
[10:21] <DustyDingo> lately i only used gentoo and in general had no much time for computing at all, so kbuntu is a bit strange for me ;)
[10:21] <pestilence> Blake7984, that's because sudo isn't set up properly
[10:21] <pestilence> Blake7984, you have root, right?  do a "su"
[10:21] <Healot> Blake7984: installed from a desktop CD eh?
[10:21] <pussfeller> my usb drives arent showing up
[10:21] <pestilence> Blake7984, then do "visudo"
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> pestilence: lts, i know. but its it how kubuntu releases its stable version ?
[10:22] <Blake7984> pestilence did that yea
[10:22] <DustyDingo> first of all, i thought, i must get along with apt, but networking kept me for one houre :)
[10:22] <mus_dur> can you help me any man abour xgl
[10:22] <mus_dur> about
[10:22] <pussfeller> and my kuicklaunch icons are oversized :(
[10:22] <pestilence> Blake7984, do you have this:
[10:22] <pestilence> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:22] <Blake7984> and i added:   blake  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:22] <Blake7984> oh ok
[10:22] <pestilence> oh ok
[10:22] <mus_dur> i didnt this command
[10:22] <pestilence> that works too
[10:22] <mus_dur> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[10:22] <pestilence> so does sudo work now?
[10:22] <Healot> |lostbyte|: the same as ubuntu, remember kubuntu isn't a ubuntu fork
[10:23] <Blake7984> "Conversation with su failed."
[10:23] <mus_dur> are you thereeeee
[10:23] <mus_dur> i didnt install to compiz
[10:23] <mus_dur> this command didnt work
[10:23] <mus_dur> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[10:23] <pestilence> !tell mus_dur about repositories
[10:24] <mus_dur> it is original repositories
[10:24] <pestilence> Blake7984, su tells you that?  or sudo?
[10:24] <mus_dur> i didnt change any pestilence
[10:24] <pestilence> mus_dur, enable universe
[10:24] <pestilence> those instructions i sent you tell you how
[10:25] <alexandre> why the language suporte is GONE from the repository:
[10:25] <Blake7984> well if i do something like:   sudo dmraid -r    it works, but when i try system settings stuff it tells me the above error after i enter my pass
[10:25] <mus_dur> pestilence thank you
[10:25] <alexandre>  why the language suporte is GONE from the repository:
[10:25] <|lostbyte|> Healot: :) ook
[10:26] <DustyDingo> hm, wow ubuntu is so wonderful, especialy the standard settings
[10:26] <mluser-work> How does one start wpa-supplicant?
[10:26] <alexandre> does anybody knows why the language suporte is GONE from the repository
[10:26] <DustyDingo> it sets eth0 to send a dhcp request
[10:26] <david_> i'm find dapper a bit of a liability
[10:26] <pussfeller> pestilence:  Cannot write to /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.d/XML::LibXML::SAX::Parser: No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/XML/SAX.pm line 234.
[10:26] <pussfeller> is the error
[10:26] <DustyDingo> and hell, it got an ip,
[10:26] <Healot> alexandre: read the Release Note
[10:26] <alexandre> why the language suporte is GONE from the repository
[10:26] <pestilence> pussfeller, ok...
[10:27] <DustyDingo> i haven't the slightest idear where in my LAN a dhcp server is running :)
[10:27] <Healot> or it hasn't completed yet
[10:27] <pestilence> pussfeller, is this a catsrophic error?
[10:27] <david_> i nearly had to wipe the entire drive
[10:27] <Healot> DustyDingo: record the IP address of that DHCP server, by the way it should be in the same subnet
[10:28] <pussfeller> pestilence: it seems to be blocking alot of stuff
[10:28] <pestilence> Blake7984, try running kdesu from a command line, see what it tells you there
[10:28] <pestilence> pussfeller, what if you do apt-get install -f
[10:28] <pussfeller> pestilence: thats what I have been running
[10:28] <Blake7984> kdesu: no command specified.
[10:29] <pestilence> Blake7984, so specify one :)
[10:29] <pestilence> pussfeller, what about apt-get remove libxml-sax-perl
[10:29] <Blake7984> "Su reeturned with an error" in a message box
[10:29] <pestilence> do you see the error in the command window
[10:30] <pestilence> pussfeller, or apt-get install --reinstall libxml-sax-perl
[10:30] <Blake7984> its failing to open a couple uninitialized input devices, but that seems (somewhat) normal and unrelated for now
[10:30] <Blake7984> but other than that, no error in command window
[10:30] <pestilence> yea i get that too
[10:30] <pussfeller> Cannot write to /etc/perl/XML/SAX/ParserDetails.ini: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 105.
[10:31] <pussfeller> hmm
[10:31] <pussfeller> i always hated perl for some reason
[10:31] <pestilence> pussfeller, you got that when doing which command, the remove or the reinstall
[10:31] <pussfeller> the removal
[10:31] <pestilence> pussfeller, did it finish, though?
[10:32] <pussfeller> pestilence: no, it exited with error
[10:32] <pestilence> pussfeller, do things depend on this library?
[10:32] <pestilence> that you need
[10:33] <pussfeller> pestilence: well, i guess not, now apt-get -f install says everything is done
[10:33] <pestilence> k :)
[10:33] <pussfeller> its not installed, but I can live without rythmbox
[10:33] <pestilence> well, whatever the problem was, it should be fixable
[10:34] <pestilence> i would use amarok, if i were you :)
[10:34] <pussfeller> but now, I need to find out why my usv drives dont show up
[10:34] <pussfeller> oh for sure, i have an svn of that
[10:34] <ubuntu> hi, trying kubuntu dapper. is it possible for out to use symbolic names for my usb devices instead of  sda1 or sdb1 (which shift around)?
[10:34] <robotgeek> hmm, i had a link. moment
[10:34] <david_> what firewall does dapper have?
[10:35] <Blake7984> pestilence so any idea on why this sudo stuff aint working?
[10:35] <kubuntu-newbie> oh, geez, does kubuntu make me write my own udev rules?
[10:35] <joch> david_: iptables, like all linux distributions
[10:35] <david_> thats a pointless answer
[10:36] <pestilence> Blake7984, no clue.  if sudo works, i would think kdesu should work too...but that's why your configuration isn't working.  you have three options as i see it
[10:36] <pestilence> Blake7984, fix kdesu
[10:36] <pestilence> Blake7984, configure things manually, which is not so bad
[10:36] <pestilence> Blake7984, or run the kde configuration utilities from the command line with sudo
[10:36] <robotgeek> ubuntu: sorry, could not find it. sorry
[10:36] <alexandre> why the language suporte is GONE from the repository
[10:36] <Blake7984> i like option #3 for now...then option #1 later
[10:36] <pussfeller> there is firestarter for one, i think
[10:36] <Blake7984> how do i find out the names of those system settings commands
[10:36] <alexandre> I didnt find anytihng about it on the release note
[10:36] <Blake7984> like display, network, etc
[10:37] <david_> not in the dapper repo
[10:37] <pussfeller> i let my router protect me from the RIAA
[10:37] <pestilence> Blake7984, doesn't it tell you when it asks for your password?
[10:37] <david_> shorewall is a pain
[10:37] <pestilence> i think people like firestarter.  but i use rc.firewall.
[10:38] <Blake7984> well now its not asking for password...just goes straight to "Su returned with an error."
[10:38] <Blake7984> and on that screen, no
why the language suporte is GONE from the repository
[10:38] <pestilence> Blake7984, you need to clear the sudo cache
why the language suporte is GONE from the repository
[10:38] <pussfeller> david_: i used to use something called arno's script which is a bash script that seemed to work well
[10:38] <pussfeller> if you can find it on google
[10:39] <pestilence> Blake7984, sudo -k
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> just start by turning on masquarading and blocking everything
[10:39] <Blake7984> ok logged out and back in..fixed that...but no, doesnt tell me name of app
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> then only enable what you absolutely need
[10:39] <Blake7984> just says "Run as root - KDE su"  "Please enter your password."
[10:39] <nrg88> hi, KDE Wallet always asks for a passord after login
[10:39] <david_> I've been using linux for about 6 years and I can't be bothered with files, guarddog was brilliant
why the language suporte is GONE from the repository. It for portuguese lenguage
[10:39] <nrg88> how can i disable that?
why the language suporte is GONE from the repository. It for portuguese language
[10:39] <nrg88> can i configure kopete not to use kde wallet?
[10:40] <david_> yes u can
[10:40] <alexandre> why the language suporte is GONE from the repository. It for portuguese language
[10:40] <pussfeller> you can also tell kdewallet not to ask either
[10:40] <pestilence> alexandre, please don't repeat yourself so often.  nobody knows.  everybody here speaks one language.  english
[10:40] <nrg88> david_: can u tell me how please?
[10:40] <jbirdAngel> can i install kubuntu without a cd/dvd as i dont htink i have a spare blank one
[10:41] <pussfeller> heh
[10:41] <david_> when u first use a program it asks and warns, say no and wallet does not keep u from being hacked
[10:41] <nrg88> ok, thanks
[10:41] <pestilence> Blake7984, you could run kcontrol under sudo...but i don't think that's the best idea
[10:41] <iNiku> wow, kde 3.5.3 starts a lot faster
but today in the morning the packages were there
[10:41] <nrg88> yeah iNikum its great :)
[10:42] <pestilence> alexandre, what package are you looking for
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> alexandre: Try running sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo locale-gen (accept any packages to be removed I think the language stuff has been rearranged recently)
[10:42] <alexandre> openoffice-pt-br
[10:42] <amy___> help, i dont know how to use kopete
[10:42] <alexandre> aspell-pt-br
[10:42] <alexandre> and so on
[10:42] <david_> what is it amy
[10:42] <amy___> it will ask for password and
[10:43] <david_> amy this is computers be very precise
[10:43] <pestilence> alexandre, do you mean openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br
[10:43] <amy___> i enter correct one but it will say username is invalid
[10:43] <jbirdAngel> is kde 3.5.3 what is on the kubuntu i just downloaded?
[10:43] <david_> amy this is computers be very precise
Yes... this one
[10:43] <pestilence> alexandre, it's still there
[10:43] <david_> no 5.2
[10:43] <pestilence> alexandre, i guess you might also want language-pack-kde-pt-base
[10:43] <alexandre> So why my adept cant find it:
[10:43] <pestilence> alexandre, or maybe language-support-pt
[10:44] <Blake7984> pestilence it wont let me anyways
[10:44] <pestilence> Blake7984, strange
[10:44] <pestilence> it lets me :)
no language....kde is there in adept
[10:44] <pestilence> although i used kdesu
[10:44] <Blake7984> if i su, then do kcontrol...gives me some errors.....if i do sudo kcontrol as my username, it just returns and does nothing
[10:45] <pestilence> alexandre, dunno what to tell you, it's in the main repository.  did you try apt-get update?
[10:45] <iNiku> hmm. how do I get kde to start opera with aoss when it restores my session after login?
[10:45] <pestilence> Blake7984, yea.  probably doesn't work under regular sudo.  and under su it needs to have a way to get back to the X server
[10:45] <Blake7984> any easy way to make it get back to X server?
[10:45] <pestilence> iNiku, log out with opera open
yes I did
[10:45] <david_> startx
[10:46] <pestilence> Blake7984, before typing su, type xhost +
[10:46] <iNiku> pestilence: it does restore opera but not with aoss
[10:46] <pestilence> after typing su type export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0
[10:46] <pestilence> iNiku, dunno then
[10:46] <jbirdAngel> david_: okay thanks
Your adept is showing it for you:
[10:46] <iNiku> pestilence: I mean, my opera button is set up to start "/usr/bin/aoss /usr/bin/opera" and that works
[10:46] <jbirdAngel> can i install kubuntu without a cd/dvd as i dont htink i have a spare blank one
[10:46] <iNiku> but when I log out and in again, opera gets started without aoss
[10:46] <pestilence> alexandre, i don't use adept, but it's definitely showing in my repository database
[10:47] <pestilence> iNiku, oh...
[10:47] <Blake7984> pestilence failed differently...but still failed
witch one do you use:
[10:47] <david_> kubuntu dapper is a live cd which u can use to install with, thats about it really
[10:47] <pestilence> alexandre, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[10:47] <jbirdAngel> david_: okay thank you
[10:47] <pestilence> i use aptitude
[10:47] <squilla> !karma
[10:47] <ubotu> squilla has neutral karma
[10:48] <iNiku> pestilence: same problem if I point the opera button to a script that does "aoss opera"... works when I start it manually but when kde restores it after login, no aoss
[10:48] <squilla> !network
[10:48] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers.  PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[10:48] <david_> use the command line
[10:49] <nico_> any idea why the "compress" option suddenly disappeared from the right-click contextual menu in konqueror here?
[10:49] <pestilence> iNiku, google "kde autostart".  you need to put a file in .kde/Autostart that runs your command.  it's pretty simple
[10:49] <nico_> i just used it 10 minutes ago...
[10:49] <pussfeller> more like trauma time ubotu
[10:50] <david_> i think dapper is well beta, hey its free
[10:50] <pestilence> Blake7984, i wonder if kdesu is getting confused by the fact that you have set a root password?  i don't know.
[10:50] <pussfeller> its great, im just kidding, this was relatively painless
[10:50] <iNiku> pestilence: that would work but I don't think it's a good solution. kde should restore apps with the same command they were started with
[10:51] <pestilence> iNiku, file a bug
[10:51] <david_> breezy was a breeze to install, I really wish I had waited a few months
 I am really having a problem here even aptitude culdn find the package
 how can I test if repository is OK.
[10:52] <pestilence> alexandre, run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the entry i pasted is in there, then run apt-get update
[10:52] <iNiku> pestilence: and besides, I doubt it will work right. kde will restore apps before running autostart stuff so I'll still get opera without aoss
[10:52] <pestilence> iNiku, so log out with opera closed, it will remove that autostart
[10:53] <iNiku> pestilence: I don't want to have to close my stuff before logout, that's what session save and restore are for
[10:53] <pestilence> iNiku, you only have to do it once, is it that difficult?
[10:53] <pestilence> oh
[10:53] <iNiku> pestilence: um, how's that? the next time I log out with opera running, it will get restored on login again
[10:53] <pestilence> right
[10:54] <pestilence> see, i don't have these problems, i just suspend to ram :)
[10:54] <iNiku> I don't like the aoss stuff to begin with but it's the only way to get sound working sensibly :/
[10:54] <iNiku> hehe, me too, I avoid logging out and shutting down as much as I can :)
[10:54] <iNiku> but it would be nice if things actually worked like you'd expect them to
[10:56] <visik7> anyone using kphone with voipstunt ?
[10:56] <iNiku> pestilence: the session save/restore stuff works great apart from the aoss problem
[10:57] <iNiku> of course I could get really ugly and add what aoss does right into /usr/bin/opera, it's a script after all
[10:57] <Memorice> hey
[10:57] <iNiku> but, geez...
[10:57] <iNiku> there's got to be a nicer way to do it
[10:58] <Memorice> I'm trying to install kubuntu, but during the installation I got a black screen
[10:58] <Memorice> can anyone help me (I'm a noob with linux)
[10:58] <david_> Memorice: u are going have to be very precise
[10:59] <david_> like was the computer on, thats a black screen
[10:59] <Memorice> I booted a kubuntu cd (release 6.06)
[11:00] <Memorice> kubuntu was loading lots of things and said OK to everything
[11:00] <Memorice> and after a few minutes I got a black screen
[11:00] <david_> go back, so u didn't get a blank screen at first, when did the blank screen happen
[11:00] <Memorice> but I can go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[11:01] <Memorice> I didn't get a black screen at first
[11:01] <david_> you get a console on a blank screen?
[11:03] <Memorice> I got a black screen, but when I tried ctrl+alt+f1 I got a console
[11:03] <david_> how did u install, from a download u burned to cd
[11:04] <Memorice> yes
[11:04] <Memorice> and I've checked the cd
[11:04] <david_> right, so start at the beginning and go through each stage
[11:04] <Memorice> ok, I'll start again :P
[11:05] <david_> did the live cd bring up kde as normal?
[11:05] <ubuntu> I think that's where his screen is going blank.
[11:05] <Memorice> don't know, never worked with linux before
[11:06] <Memorice> it loads the drivers and then the screen turns black
[11:06] <david_> ok, u put the cd in, set the pc to boot from cd and all you got was a blank screen, thats it?
[11:06] <Memorice> no
[11:07] <iNiku> actually, I wonder how many things will break if I just set LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libaoss.so globally
[11:07] <david_> ur an arty type stick to paint
[11:07] <Memorice> first I saw kubuntu was loading the kernel (and probably drivers too)
[11:07] <Memorice> it said OK to everything
[11:07] <ubuntu> Then it goes blank.
[11:08] <Memorice> and after a few minutes the screen was black and it didn't change anymore
[11:08] <ubuntu> I had the same problem with Knoppix live cd.
[11:08] <david_> do it again, go to the console and type startx and see what happens
[11:08] <Memorice> ok
[11:10] <Blake7984-> ok...can someone explain why i have only one menu.lst on my machine...its in /boot/grub/.....it has no entry at all about windows in it...yet when i boot, the stuff grub shows has nothing at all to do with the menu.lst file
[11:10] <david_> same for me, and if u do df -h I have no idea what half that stuff is
[11:11] <Blake7984-> hmmm im starting to ebt this has something to do with my raid
[11:12] <ubuntu> Memorice, start Kubuntu in safe graphics mode.
[11:13] <david_> its a live cd, it could be it can't find a driver for you pc graphics card that drives the screen
[11:13] <Memorice> I try to start kubuntu in VGA mode now
[11:13] <Memorice> pc graphics card is ATI RADEON X700
[11:13] <david_> poor you
[11:14] <ubuntu> Memorice, start Kubuntu in safe graphics mode.
[11:14] <MidMark> how to change default soundcard?
[11:14] <Memorice> next boot if this doesn't work
[11:14] <MidMark> I have webcam and soundcard
[11:14] <david_> even apple had a problem with that bugger
[11:14] <MidMark> I cannot head nothing
[11:15] <david_> try the ball
[11:16] <fatejudger> !samba
[11:16] <ubotu> [samba]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:19] <Davidosky> Hi all, i'm looking for help with Smb4k
[11:22] <Davidosky> !Smb4k
[11:22] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Davidosky
[11:25] <jr_> how on earth do I get a finnish KDE? I seem to lack the language packs, apt-get won't find them....
[11:25] <domi> jihaire< ?
[11:25] <Cainsie> how on earth do i get ndiswrapper to work>>
[11:25] <jr_> it finds kde-i18n-fi but it needs language-pack-kde-fi which cannot be found, then it hits some breaking dependencies on the screen....
[11:26] <Bazzi> is there no kde-i18n-fi jr_?
[11:26] <Bazzi> ooo
[11:26] <Bazzi> sounds bad
[11:26] <jr_> I was wondering, could it be that the reposities don't contain it yet? but I thought the translations were ready
[11:26] <jr_> can you find it?
[11:26] <Riddell> kde-i18n-fi is there, as is language-pack-kde-fi
[11:27] <jr_> Riddell: in which reposity?
[11:28] <MidMark> kscd works for you?
[11:28] <domi> do you think I should do a clean reinstall of dapper ? I am using the beta version since 5 months
[11:28] <Riddell> jr_: in main, do you have internet repositories enabled?
[11:28] <MidMark> mine kscd has no sound out
[11:29] <david_> LTS is still far from finished, kubuntu is great so I would if i were you
[11:29] <jr_> riddell, yes I guess so...but how do I make it sure?
[11:29] <FooBz> hi
[11:30] <FooBz> Has anyone got it running on TravelMate 8100
[11:30] <FooBz> right now, the live cd is a pita
[11:30] <david_> sometimes the udev permissions are not set right for sound
[11:30] <FooBz> can't do anything with it
[11:30] <FooBz> it fails miserably detecting the hardware
[11:30] <Cainsie> can someone takev me through using ndiswrapper:(
[11:30] <Riddell> jr_: look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> Howdy peeps...   Im in Dapper..
[11:31] <MidMark> jr_ and Riddell: probably affected by cd/dvd bug too
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> :-D
[11:31] <MidMark> and also languages bug
[11:31] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have the kalimoto ogg?
[11:32] <MidMark> no language installed and no dvd in sources, so no language to choose in the language chooser
[11:32] <Davidosky> Guys how i can open a 3gp file?
[11:32] <david_> what's that?
[11:32] <MidMark> jr_: make a 'sudo apt-cdrom add' and back to language chooser
[11:33] <MidMark> jr_: make it sure to put the cd or dvd into reader
[11:33] <MidMark> jr_: before making sudo....
[11:33] <david_> convert the 3gp file to avi or mpeg
[11:34] <MidMark> All: kscd works for you? For me nope...
[11:34] <Davidosky> ok thx david
[11:34] <jr_> ok thanks
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> ok, I need some help in installin my video drivers..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> or..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> !nvidia
[11:36] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> nvmd..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:37] <Random_Transit> hey, can anyone recommend a good GUI based video conversion program?
[11:38] <Cainsie> !ndiswrapper
[11:38] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:38] <Memorice> ubuntu are you still there?
[11:39] <Random_Transit> hey, can anyone recommend a good GUI based video conversion program?
[11:40] <Cainsie> !install ndiswrapper
[11:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cainsie
[11:41] <matsavhalev> Random_Transit: maybe avidemux
[11:41] <Random_Transit> is that in the repositories?
[11:41] <CaBlGuY> so ummm   I need to install nvida-glx right??
[11:41] <ShastaMaroon> Is dapper now the production release?
[11:41] <K|NgGh0sT> ShastaMaroon: /topic
[11:41] <matsavhalev> in one of them -   my apt cache shows avidemux - a small editing software for avi (especially DivX)
[11:41] <CaBlGuY> ShastaMaroon:  yep..
[11:41] <ShastaMaroon> ah yes, look at that
[11:42] <mluser-work> Does anyone know how to start the wpa_supplicant daemon in ubuntu?
[11:42] <Random_Transit> what repo, matsavhalev?
[11:42] <CaBlGuY> and dapper is very nice. It only took like 20 minutes to install and most everything is automated at this point..
[11:42] <matsavhalev> Random_Transit: havent tried it, i have universe and multiverse on so it may be one of those
[11:43] <Random_Transit> hmm
[11:43] <matsavhalev> Random_transit: Universe according to apt-get
[11:43] <[Relic] > will I encounter major problems if I install dapper to a new HD install all the stuff I have running currently and just copy over the /home dir from 5.10?  just wondering if there is an easy shortcut instead of resetting everything
[11:43] <matsavhalev> Random_transit : sorry mean multiverse
[11:43] <matsavhalev> Random_Transit: my mistake
[11:44] <[Relic] > want to switch out HDs sicne this one has been running quite a while
[11:44] <CaBlGuY> ok, what drivers I need for Nvida Geforce 5500 card..
[11:44] <K|NgGh0sT> [Relic] : Why dont you just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[11:44] <K|NgGh0sT> CaBlGuY: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:44] <CaBlGuY> *FX 5500  that is
[11:44] <CaBlGuY> OK..
[11:45] <[Relic] > K|NgGh0sT, want to switch out HDs sicne this one has been running quite a while
[11:45] <K|NgGh0sT> I have a harddrive that has been running for the last twenty years
[11:45] <K|NgGh0sT> Dont worry bout it heh
[11:45] <[Relic] > I like having an extra backup  :)
[11:45] <K|NgGh0sT> Raid them then
[11:46] <MrObvious> Hi. I'm not on my KUbuntu system right now but I wanted to know if the package bcm43xx-fwcutter comes on the CD
[11:46] <[Relic] > case is too small to put more than one in
[11:46] <K|NgGh0sT> boourns
[11:46] <MrObvious> Can someone check?
[11:46] <K|NgGh0sT> Go get a new case :D
[11:46] <[Relic] > these are old honking server drives full 5.25s   :)
[11:46] <[Relic] > they should burn out in another 104 years if I read the manual correctly  :)
[11:47] <K|NgGh0sT> I have room for so many drives, makes me sad so I have to keep buying new ones so I dont feel like I am wasting space
[11:47] <nnn0> :D
[11:47] <[Relic] > I got enough room for an extra dozen 3.5", but insufficient funds for a pack of bubble gum  :)
[11:47] <nnn0> you never get enough drives :)
[11:48] <Cainsie> how do i work ndeiswrapper plz?
[11:48] <Cainsie> * -e
[11:48] <K|NgGh0sT> [Relic] : start whoring yourself out!
[11:48] <[Relic] > I refuse to work for m$  :)
[11:48] <K|NgGh0sT> osh_: That was easy then
[11:48] <[Relic] > and quite pointless :)
[11:48] <osh_> K|NgGh0sT: easy... but weird.
[11:49] <K|NgGh0sT> He gave you money no?
[11:49] <K|NgGh0sT> Then why is it weird :D
[11:49] <CaBlGuY> k brb
[11:49] <iNiku> raid0 or concat? :)
[11:49] <Memorice> I've a problem by installing kubuntu 6.06
[11:49] <Memorice> When I boot from cd, I see:
[11:49] <iNiku> if the latter, not pointless at all...
[11:49] <Memorice> loading essential drivers  OK
[11:49] <Memorice> mount root file system     OK
[11:49] <Memorice> moving mount points        OK
[11:49] <Memorice> etc..
[11:49] <Memorice> But after a few minutes my screen becomes black and stays black
[11:49] <Memorice> I can go to a console by ctrl+alt+f1, but I don't know what to do now
[11:49] <Memorice> Booting in safe mode doesn't gives any problem, my graphics card is: ATI RADEON X700
[11:49] <Memorice> More specifications about my notebook: Acer Aspire 1692 WLMI
[11:49] <K|NgGh0sT> Memorice: use a pastebin
[11:49] <osh_> iNiku: raid0.
[11:49] <Memorice> ?
[11:50] <iNiku> osh_: okay. that is rather pointless :)
[11:50] <Memorice> can anyone help me?
[11:50] <iNiku> osh_: did he want it for performance? :)
[11:50] <nnn0> Memorice, try booting with:  linux acpi=off nohotplug
[11:51] <K|NgGh0sT> I'm tired of all these people saying Raid0 is pointless because its so easily crashable, f that s, I've been running raid0 for 5 years not one issue
[11:51] <linuxmonkey> Hey guys im having issues with installing the nvidia drivers
[11:51] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: what's up?
[11:51] <Memorice> ok
[11:51] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: of course there's no issue as long as none of the drives in your raid0 set break
[11:51] <osh_> iNiku: I think he wanted it because he read somewhere that raid was good. Sometime higher-ups are weird.
[11:51] <linuxmonkey> well considering the version in adept is built for a different kernel and all
[11:51] <K|NgGh0sT> iNiku: of course, but everyone thinks as soon as you do Raid0 its going to fail easily
[11:51] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: but when one does, you're screwed
[11:52] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: well, a raid0 over 3 drivers is 3 times more likely to break than a single drive
[11:52] <iNiku> drives*
[11:52] <dontm> question is kubuntu the same thing as installing ubuntu and then installing the kubuntu desktop?
[11:52] <MrObvious> linuxmonkey: Kernel version doesn't matter if you grab the kernel headers.
[11:52] <osh_> dontm: yes
[11:52] <K|NgGh0sT> iNiku: of course, but still the whole stigma is that it's so unstable there is no point
[11:52] <nnn0> Memorice, if that don't work try:  linux noapic nolapic
[11:52] <MrObvious> Hi. I'm not on my KUbuntu system right now but I wanted to know if the package bcm43xx-fwcutter comes on the CD
[11:52] <MrObvious> Can someone check?
[11:52] <K|NgGh0sT> When in reality, it is quite stable
[11:53] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: I don't think anyone is saying it's not stable. what people are saying is that it's not safe, and that's the truth.
[11:53] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: it's fine if you need speed but don't care about the data, though
[11:53] <linuxmonkey> when i run the sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it gives me an error
[11:53] <K|NgGh0sT> iNiku: Come to my school, my profs hate Raid0
[11:53] <dontm> whoa whoa why?
[11:53] <dontm> why do ur profs hate raid0?!
[11:53] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: I would never use raid0 for anything important
[11:54] <K|NgGh0sT> Cause they are retarded
[11:54] <iNiku> raid0+1, sure
[11:54] <dontm> lack of redundacy?
[11:54] <iNiku> but never plain raid0
[11:54] <MrObvious> linuxmonkey: ... what is it?
[11:54] <K|NgGh0sT> iNiku: obviously
[11:54] <iNiku> it's asking for trouble.
[11:54] <dontm> well yeah
[11:54] <dontm> raid0 is not for important things
[11:54] <Memorice> when I press F6
[11:54] <dontm> it's for performance
[11:54] <osh_> MrObvious: I don't have it on my machine so it's not there by default. I don't have a cd so I can't help you with that.
[11:54] <dontm> heh
[11:54] <K|NgGh0sT> iNiku: But, as a fileserver I really dont care, fits my needs, nothing important on there
[11:54] <MrObvious> osh_: Thanks.
[11:54] <dontm> i use raid0 on my windows machine that i dont care about reinstalling from a nLite cd
[11:54] <Memorice> I see something like: preceed/file=/cdrom/preseed/Kubuntu.seed boot=casper ...
[11:54] <iNiku> K|NgGh0sT: sure, then it may well be the best choice
[11:54] <dontm> and i keep my data on a raid1
[11:54] <Memorice> en dit ends with --
[11:55] <linuxmonkey> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754407
[11:55] <Memorice> where should I type linux acpi=off nohotplug
[11:55] <Memorice> ?
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> Memorice: when you start the bootup
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> When it goes Linux:
[11:55] <K|NgGh0sT> type that in
[11:55] <dontm> kubuntu ?= ubuntu + install kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <Memorice> when I boot
[11:55] <osh_> I don't hate raid0. It has some uses. Raid1 has other uses. Even raid3 has some (albeit limitid) uses.
[11:55] <Memorice> I can choose Start or install Kubuntu
[11:55] <iNiku> kubuntu = ubuntu + kubuntu_desktop - ubuntu_desktop
[11:55] <Memorice> do I need to do that first?
[11:56] <dontm> iNiku it's that simple?
[11:56] <linuxmonkey> MrObvious: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754407
[11:56] <dontm> are there bundled apps or any other configs?
[11:56] <iNiku> dontm: basically, yeah. you can install ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu to get the gnome desktop and apps
[11:56] <K|NgGh0sT> Argh, why are people using that god forsakken LiveDisc installer
[11:56] <iNiku> or you can install kubuntu-desktop to get the kde desktop and apps
[11:56] <dontm> iNiku ok cool thanks
[11:57] <linuxmonkey> K|NgGh0sT: im thinking that is what caused my issue
[11:57] <iNiku> install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, that is
[11:57] <yamal> finally... it's installed.
[11:57] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: what does apt-get install nvidia-glx do?
[11:57] <iNiku> dontm: you'll get a different bootup splash and login screen but that's about it
[11:57] <linuxmonkey> installs
[11:57] <Memorice> K|NgGh0sT: should I first chose Start or install Kubuntu?
[11:58] <Memorice> before I can type linux acpi=off nohotplug anywhere?
[11:58] <iNiku> dontm: and the login screen (ie. display manager) is easily changed. dunno about the splash picture.
[11:58] <linuxmonkey> then when i try to run  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable I get http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/754407
[11:58] <K|NgGh0sT> Memorice: hell if I know, i start away from GUI intalls
[11:58] <Memorice> :(
[11:58] <K|NgGh0sT> Why are you running nvidia-glx-config?
[11:58] <iNiku> osh_: out of curiosity, where/why would you prefer raid3 over raid5?
[11:58] <nnn0> Memorice, when you boot from the cd you should get the option to use boot parameters
[11:59] <K|NgGh0sT> linuxmonkey: one sec
[11:59] <linuxmonkey> cause A) thats what it tells me to do, B) how I did it before on other versions and C) the evil monkey mademe do it
[11:59] <K|NgGh0sT> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:59] <K|NgGh0sT> do that
[12:00] <K|NgGh0sT> select nvidia instead of nv
[12:00] <nnn0> Memorice, after where it says boot:
[12:01] <nnn0> Memorice, you should also be able to press F1 for more options
[12:04] <bastian> how can I fix networking to not load correctly? dhcp only works after a manual sudo ifdown eth0 + ifup eth0
[12:04] <james_xxx> in kubuntu dapper with KDE 3.5.3 my screen saver is no longer working, would anyone have an idea why? instead of going to the screensaver, the monitor just goes off. it is configured to go into power saving mode after 30 min