[05:08] <ruan> the linux equivalent of ccleaner
[05:08] <stiltzkin> overclucker, It's even on the ndiswrapper FAQ...the software runs on PPC but the drivers do not. That's my problem
[05:09] <subcool> Hey- i recently got some help, and it didnt work out- I am trying to install my Built-in web cam.. and installing Cheese didnt work.
[05:09] <subcool> googling it is getting me no where..
[05:11] <giiker> subcool: you just want to use your webcam right!?
[05:11] <subcool> ...? ya-
[05:11] <stiltzkin> lsusb returns "NetGear, Inc. WG111(v1) rev 2 54Mbps Wireless [Intersil Prism54 Intersil 3886]
[05:11] <giiker> have you used Gimp?
[05:12] <stiltzkin> So it's a prism54 card. Are there open source drivers for that that I might compile on PPC?
[05:12] <subcool> what else would i be trying to do?? - u got me curious on that one..
[05:12] <dannyLopez68> http://pastebin.com/YXehS5vR alguien any idea?
[05:12] <subcool> gimp? -- nah
[05:12] <subcool> installing gimp now
[05:13] <giiker> subcool: if you can import an image from your webcam in gimp, you mostly sure can get any image off the webcam
[05:13] <dannyLopez68> http://pastebin.com/YXehS5vR any idea?
[05:13] <giiker> subcool: through anything else
[05:14] <giiker> well ifgimp recognizes the webcam and gets iamges, it means drivers are ok
[05:16] <subcool> giiker, how does gimp import live webcam feeds?
[05:17] <giiker> dannyLopez68: what are you trying to do?
[05:17] <dannyLopez68> giiker: I have no idea
[05:17] <giiker> live webcam, hmm only pics mate
[05:18] <subcool> lol - hahhaha
[05:18] <subcool> im trying to install any drivers to make my webcam work
[05:19] <giiker> dannyLopez68: ok
[05:19] <needlez> Elektroid: well with it changed to succeed it still gave auth failed, then when tried to use switch user it stalled the login and forced me to reboot, think could be the gnome-screensaver set up also
[05:20] <needlez> anyone  in ubuntu please post your etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver file, wanna check to see what the default is for ubuntu compaired to what I have
[05:20] <giiker> subcool: what's your model?
[05:21] <subcool> HP DV5- 2035
[05:21] <Echo9er> XT989UT#ABA < can someone confirm that this model is ubuntu compliant?
[05:22] <giiker> subcool: run lsusb
[05:23] <giiker> subcool: HP DV5- 2035, that's just your laptop model, run lsusb
[05:24] <needlez> FIXED!!!
[05:24] <needlez> yes
[05:24] <needlez> FIXED!!
[05:24] <subcool> i see my usb
[05:24] <hiexpo> hola all
[05:25] <elektroid> needlez: what was it?
[05:25] <needlez> Elektroid:  it was the gnome-screensaver file,... needed to add @include common-account; @include common-password; @include common-auth
[05:25] <subcool> giiker, all i see is my usb hub,
[05:26] <needlez> lol, looked at login unix section and it explained what happend
[05:26] <elektroid> ah so you only had that line in the config altogether
[05:27] <needlez> no each seperated, but yea, it was missing the password and account and the way fedora sets it up is much different, so thats why it wasnt working with the other config
[05:27] <needlez> lol
[05:27] <needlez> thank you very much
[05:27] <giiker> subcool: what about: dmesg | grep webcam
[05:28] <subcool> nada
[05:28] <needlez> well now, im happy :D
[05:28] <needlez> subcool: sup?? you trying to find your webcam??
[05:28] <stiltzkin> Can anyone explain what this error means? "*** KERNELPATH:/lib/modules/2.6.35-22-powerpc/build does not exist. Stop."
[05:28] <hiexpo> needlez, soyour running fedora
[05:28] <giiker> Echo9er: you might want to try a live CD first!
[05:28] <Echo9er> what?
[05:29] <elektroid> hiexpo: no its me with fedora
[05:29] <hiexpo> oh ok elektroid
[05:29] <awanti> Hi
[05:29] <[deXter]> Hi all
[05:29] <[thor]> !livecd
[05:30] <Echo9er> i dont wanna buy it and not have it working
[05:30] <[deXter]> I've got a gnome panel on the left side that's sort of hidden, except for a 1 pixel coloumn which is visible
[05:30] <[deXter]> how do I unhide or get rid of it?
[05:30] <[thor]> Echo9er: it's free, and always has been
[05:30] <subcool> needlez, ya-
[05:30] <[thor]> Echo9er: www.ubuntu.com
[05:30] <Echo9er> the computer isnt....
[05:30] <subcool> needlez, and install it
[05:30] <Echo9er> i need to know before hand
[05:30] <stiltzkin> No seriously guys, what does that error mean...it's the only thing keeping me from solving my problem
[05:30] <[thor]> oh that
[05:31] <elektroid> subcool: which webcam are you using and do you already have v4l installed? most cams work without needing more than that
[05:31] <giiker> Echo9er: you might want to burn a Live CD, burn it, and ask people @ the store if you can try you CD
[05:31] <sheenams> i have a question about ssh
[05:31] <needlez> subcool: internel webcam?? or external through usb??
[05:31] <Goome> how would i make it so /usr/bin/ping can only be executed by root?
[05:31] <Echo9er> im ordering it online
[05:32] <subcool> elektroid, i have a builtin webcam on my laptop
[05:32] <giiker> Echo9er: some stores will say, Ok!
[05:32] <subcool> needlez, see above
[05:32] <elektroid> subcool: you know the brand-mode?
[05:32] <needlez> oh
[05:32] <elektroid> model*
[05:32] <subcool> elektroid, no- its builtin- i would say HP. lol
[05:32] <hiexpo> cheese
[05:32] <giiker> Echo9er: you might want to try to look for a similar one on a local store and go there!
[05:32] <[thor]> Echo9er: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[05:32] <subcool> hiexpo, installed already
[05:32] <Echo9er> local stores have crap
[05:32] <[thor]> Echo9er: has all the hardware by manufacturer/etc
[05:33] <Echo9er> kk
[05:33] <elektroid> subcool: if you gave us the HP laptop model perhaps we could then know what cam you are actually using if you dont know
[05:33] <giiker> Echo9er: ok then, then don buy it!
[05:33] <Goome> how would i make it so /usr/bin/ping can only be executed by root?
[05:33] <hiexpo> should work with cheese especially hp
[05:33] <elektroid> because its down to specific webcam to know which drivers are needed
[05:33] <subcool> elektroid, HP DV5 2035 -
[05:33] <sheenams> quick question about ssh, ls lists nothing but cd /.ssh finds ssh directory. Help?
[05:33] <subcool> dont be snippy- i have restated this 5 times already, just ask.
[05:34] <giiker> sorry, OPs, but it's always like this @ this time, too many trolls
[05:34] <rww> sheenams: dotfiles aren't shown in ls by default. use "ls -a" (All) instead
[05:34] <rww> giiker: then ignore them. feeding them makes things worse.
[05:34] <sheenams> rww: that gives .  ..
[05:34] <subcool> what command can i give to give a more specific desciption?
[05:34] <root_> ?
[05:34] <rww> sheenams: presumably because you changed directory to ~/.ssh ;)
[05:34] <Goome> how would i make it so /usr/bin/ping can only be executed by root?
[05:35] <hiexpo> great batteries dieing in mouse
[05:35] <elektroid> subcool: you have a HP TrueVision cam
[05:35] <[thor]> !permissions | Goome
[05:35] <root_> ?
[05:36] <subcool> elektroid, thank u-
[05:36] <stiltzkin> I'm almost there...fixed my previous error message by installing kernel headers. Now I get "fatal error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory." How can I fix that?
[05:36] <giiker> rww: I know, sometimes I just doubt my judgment on trolls, anyway...
[05:36] <sheenams> rww: im following directions at github. it says to cd ~/.ssh then ls to find the kepair.
[05:36] <uberbob> hi, i am having a problem where a ubuntu box refuses to change hostname, the names in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are fine yet hostname and hostname -f are wrong (and yet many reboots have been done)
[05:36] <rww> sheenams: if you did ls inside ~/.ssh and you only see . and .., then you have no keypair.
[05:36] <Goome> [thor]: 700 would do fine?
[05:37] <rww> or none in there, anyway
[05:37] <sheenams> rww: Thanks!
[05:38] <elektroid> subcool: can you not get it to load in cheese?
[05:38] <hiexpo> allbetter
[05:38] <elektroid> I believe the v4l drivers are already on there, so it should just work
[05:39] <giiker> sheenams: u need to generate them first...
[05:39] <ejv> uberbob: you know you could just restart the hostname service in /etc/init.d/ lol
[05:39] <[thor]> Goome: you need to chown the file to root as well
[05:39] <ejv> rebooting is overkill ;)
[05:39] <stiltzkin> Nobody?
[05:39] <subcool> elektroid, no i cant..
[05:39] <Jon--> I am unable to add anyone to my MSN on Ubuntu 10.04 using Pidgin 2.7.9 (libpurple 2.7.9). I always get the message "Unable to add the buddy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>because the username is invalid.  Usernames must be valid email addresses.  Any ideas?  I hve
[05:39] <Jon--> Shit. Sorry. Bad enter key.
[05:39] <FloodBot2> Jon--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <uberbob> your not helping
[05:39] <sheenams> giiker: i know that now. the tutorial i'm following said it would give me an error if there wasn't one, but it didn't give me the error so I assumed there was one
[05:40] <Jon--> I am unable to add anyone to my MSN on Ubuntu 10.04 using Pidgin 2.7.9 (libpurple 2.7.9). I always get the message "Unable to add the buddy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>because the username is invalid.  Usernames must be valid email addresses.  Any ideas?  I have asked in #pidgin already, but it's much less active, figured I'd ask here.
[05:40] <ejv> uberbob: did you try restarting via the init script?
[05:40] <ejv> (im referring to the hostname service)
[05:40] <subcool> elektroid, or.. it hasnt...
[05:40] <[deXter]> So, any ideas folks?
[05:40] <elektroid> ?
[05:41] <subcool> elektroid, cheese didnt make it work
[05:41] <Chr|s> is there a channel for team speak here?
[05:41] <hiexpo> jon_relax ok with pidgin and hotmail nothing special is needed when you opened pidgin you should have  got a welcome right
[05:41] <giiker> sheenams: ok, good luck setting up your keypair, and please don't skip the part where it asks for passphrase...
[05:41] <needlez> subcool: can you generate the lspci for that device so I can get the exact info for it?
[05:41] <Chr|s> I am having issues with my headset working for Team Speak
[05:42] <Jon--> hiexpo: I have used Pidgin for a while as my MSN client. It's just that lately it stopped allowing me to add buddies.
[05:42] <subcool> certainly
[05:42] <uberbob> just did sudo service hostname start and it didnt help
[05:42] <elektroid> needlez: you need lsmod
[05:42] <ejv> i'd check the ubuntuforums Chr|s
[05:42] <Jon--> hiexpo: Always telling me that their email is invalid, even if I know for a fact it isn't.
[05:42] <ejv> (http://ubuntuforums.org)
[05:42] <hiexpo> Jon--, oh so you can log in but not add buddies
[05:42] <needlez> ahh my bad, i see,
[05:43] <Jon--> hiexpo: Correct. returns error message, I pasted into my message above ^
[05:43] <giiker> Jon--: I have been able to add contactsin amsn, if you want to try other client
[05:43] <subcool> needlez, nothing in the output mentioned webcam. all the output contained CPU and ATI
[05:43] <Chr|s> ejv, thanks
[05:43] <Jon--> giiker: Pidgin interfaces nicely with alerts. I'm also used to the interface. I've considered changing clients, but I'd rather stick with them if I can for now, so I'd like to try and fix this.
[05:43] <hanasaki> what is a good tool for administrating users / groups in LDAP for id/password/group/samba
[05:43] <needlez> subcool: lsmod sorry got mixed up
[05:44] <hiexpo> jon_i just added one to my hotmail last night and no problem so maybe it is a invalid email
[05:44] <subcool> its ok- im relearning the command
[05:44] <Matisse> hi
[05:44] <Jon--> hanasaki: Windows.  Not trolling, but it's very hard to do in Ubuntu I find.
[05:44] <subcool> can i lsmod | webcam or something?
[05:44] <needlez> just pastbin the output
[05:44] <giiker> Jon--: have you been able to use the webcam with pidgin and msn, i've had no succes at all
[05:44] <hanasaki> Jon--:  you mean active dir?
[05:44] <Jon--> giiker: MSN changed protocol no FOSS client can use webcams anymore
[05:44] <Matisse> theres a directory /home/a/.mozilla/firefox-3.5.abandoned   ... what's that all about?
[05:45] <Jon--> hiexpo: It's done it to any email I try.. The last 5-10 from 5-10 different people. I doubt that that is the issue.
[05:45] <hanasaki> Jon--:  and giiker what about gmail and pidgin
[05:45] <Jon--> To be honest, Meebo does a better job than Pidgin and aMSN at features/webcam/etc. -_-'
[05:45] <Jon--> But I don't want a web based client
[05:45] <Jon--> I am unable to add anyone to my MSN on Ubuntu 10.04 using Pidgin 2.7.9 (libpurple 2.7.9). I always get the message "Unable to add the buddy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>because the username is invalid.  Usernames must be valid email addresses. " Any ideas?  I hve
[05:46] <Jon--> Sorry, wrong message. -_-'
[05:46] <xangua> update pidgin Jon--
[05:46] <Jon--> xangua: I have the latest version from http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[05:46] <xangua> 2.7.9 is not 'latest'
[05:46] <Jon--> It's the latest repository supported..
[05:47] <Jon--> Are you suggesting I compile from source?
[05:47] <ejv> probably a ppa via launchpad
[05:47] <Jon--> Any resource on Pidgin site for installing onto Ubuntu links to http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ on their site. They don't support any packages beyond 2.7.9 it seems.
[05:47] <xangua> so the pidgin ppa has no latest
[05:47] <Jon--> (currently)
[05:48] <Dwood> I need help fixing a problem with my sounds on Ubuntu. Anyone care to help?
[05:48] <Jon--> Dwood: !ask
[05:48] <xangua> try getdeb.net repository, i got 2.7.11 from there i believe Jon--
[05:48] <Jon--> Shit, wrong bot macro, sorry.
[05:48] <Jon--> Just ask.
[05:48] <Dwood> lol
[05:48] <ejv> !language | Jon--
[05:49] <elektroid> subcool: you can also ls /dev/video and then try vlc v4l2:///dev/video*
[05:49] <giiker> hanasaki: gtalk works fine, but last time i tried to chat with webcam with my wife @ home it did not work
[05:49] <elektroid> sorry ls /dev/video*
[05:49] <Dwood> first: need to get my buntu version...
[05:49] <hanasaki> giiker:  did you need to use the google plugins to the apt sources? BRB
[05:50] <Jon--> I am unable to add anyone to my MSN on Ubuntu 10.04 using Pidgin 2.7.9 (libpurple 2.7.9). I always get the message "Unable to add the buddy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>because the username is invalid.  Usernames must be valid email addresses."  Any ideas?  I have asked in #pidgin already, but it's much less active, figured I'd ask here.
[05:50] <ejv> can you stop repeating, for the love of god
[05:50] <Jon--> xangua: Will getdeb replace my other package for pidgin  or will it be named differently in aptitude?
[05:51] <xangua> will update/replace Jon--
[05:51] <elektroid> subcool: you still there?
[05:51] <Jon--> xangua: apt-get update did not find an update for pidgin
[05:51] <giiker> harisund: i have the plugins installed, maybe it was because we were on the same LAN, i don't know I could chat but not webcam conversation, weird....
[05:51] <Jon--> After installing the getdeb repo
[05:51] <subcool_> bah - got disconnected
[05:51] <Jon--> Oh
[05:51] <Jon--> Yes it did.
[05:51] <Jon--> I apologise.
[05:51] <subcool_> http://pastebin.com/pmgpq5xa
[05:51] <elektroid> ah subcool, do lsmod | grep video
[05:51] <Dwood> Upon starting Ubuntu every time, the sound manager uses the previously set volume level as the MAX volume level
[05:52] <Dwood> This is not okay.
[05:52] <Jon--> How bleeding edge are these packages, quite safe and stable?
[05:52] <giiker> Jon--: i'm going to try to add someone on pidgin right now
[05:52] <Jon--> giiker: Alright.
[05:52] <subcool_> video                  20623  0
[05:52] <subcool_> output                  2503  1 video
[05:52] <Jon--> giiker: I wasn't getting any problems for the longest time, then 3-4 days ago, out of the blue, I cannot add anyone.
[05:52] <Dwood> Can someone help me with my sound issue?
[05:52] <_jesse_> hey all having some issues with ssh and public key authentication; same private key works on one system, but not on another. Gives the follwing output: http://pastebin.com/4YWBzaD8
[05:52] <hanasaki> giiker:  did you need to use the google plugins to the apt sources? BRB
[05:52] <Jon--> Ahhh
[05:52] <Jon--> From #pidgin "bug fixed in 2.7.11
[05:53] <elektroid> subcool_:  and ls /dev/video* please
[05:53] <elektroid> if you get video0 and have vlc we can try testing it on there
[05:54] <needlez> elektroid: i looked over his lsmod and it shows no uvc or v4l area, however shows video0
[05:54] <Dwood> Every time I start ubuntu it uses the previously set sound level as the maximum sound level
[05:54] <subcool_> ls: cannot access /dev/video: No such file or directory
[05:54] <giiker> Jon--: ha ha, just got the same error like you
[05:54] <Jon--> giiker: From #pidgin they said the bug is fixed in 2.7.11  Are you running 2.7.9?
[05:54] <Dwood> Like if I set it to half sound, then the next time I start it up half is now as if the sound was turned up all the way
[05:54] <elektroid> needlez: yeah its just video using raw output module
[05:55] <giiker> Jon--: let me see
[05:55] <elektroid> I am trying to find out if truevision is v4l compatible
[05:55] <giiker> Jon--: mine is 2.6.6
[05:55] <elektroid> if so, then loading that driver should fix it
[05:55] <lolsies> hey guys please can i ask you to rate OSKit compared to other tools
[05:55] <subcool_> im glad u guys know about this- cause im soo puzzled
[05:56] <Jon--> giiker: Damn. well, to fix, compile from source or install the getdeb repositories. #pidgin says "Jon--: package builds are done by different people, unfortunately"
[05:57] <giiker> Jon--: let me try
[05:57] <jblpxh> when is ubuntu 10.10 server going to upgrade to apache 2.2.17 in apt?
[05:57] <jblpxh> it came out december 2010
[05:57] <Jon--> giiker: I'm confident this will fix it. Pidgin is aware of the bug, it's just that their PPA is not up to date.
[05:58] <Dwood> Can someone help me with a sound issue?????
[05:58] <elektroid> subcool_: which Ubuntu are you using?
[05:58] <subcool_> 10.04
[05:59] <rww> !latest | jblpxh
[05:59] <Dwood> I'm using 10.04 and have an issue with the sound, can someone help me set it up?
[05:59] <jblpxh> ubottu
[05:59] <jblpxh> :(
[05:59] <Dwood> I hate to continue repeating my question
[06:00] <Dwood> Just only 1 support channel is kind of...
[06:00] <Dwood> sad
[06:00] <Tohuw> !enter | Dwood
[06:00] <elektroid> Dwood: this time of day is hard to get good live support
[06:00] <Chr|s> Dwood, copy and paste is a great feature
[06:01] <subcool_> elektroid, idk about that- i get better help now then during the day
[06:01] <rww> when used appropriately, in 15 minute intervals
[06:02] <Tohuw> Dwood: There are 1k+ users in this channel at any given time. This is much more useful than a few users in many channels. There are in fact multiple Ubuntu support channels, though this is the one for Ubuntu desktop. Your best bet is to repeat your question every 15-ish minutes. If someone has an answer, they'll answer.
[06:02] <giiker> Jon--: have you tried to build it yourself yet?
[06:02] <Dwood> Tohuw: all right. I'll try every now and then.
[06:02] <elektroid> subcool_: if you have ekiga installed(most likely) give that a run see if your cam works, otherwise all I can find is sites mentioning to install the uvc drivers from source
[06:03] <needlez> Dwood: sound issue??
[06:03] <Tohuw> Dwood: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[06:03] <subcool_> elektroid, installing now-
[06:03] <subcool_> i found a couple helps that include installing from source, but when i went to follow the guide- the links were no good
[06:03] <Dwood> Tohuw, already tried that. needlez: when starting Ubuntu every time, the sound manager uses the previously set volume level as the max volume level
[06:04] <ubuntu> hi
[06:04] <elektroid> subcool_: http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/
[06:04] <giiker> Jon--: source is heavy
[06:04] <Jon--> giiker: lol. Yes, it's no fun.
[06:05] <Tohuw> Dwood: meaning when you restart, the highest you can set your sound is whatever it was set to before restarting?
[06:06] <Jon--> giiker: Are you having trouble?
[06:06] <subcool_> elektroid, nothing was found
[06:06] <elektroid> what do you mean?
[06:06] <Jon--> giiker: I can help you if you like. Ironic, you tried to help me fix problem, and in doing so, you realized you also have problem, and now I can help you fix it. Hahaha.
[06:06] <elektroid> the site is there, I am on it now
[06:06] <_jesse_> having some issues with ssh and public key authentication; same private key works on one system, but not on another. Gives the follwing output: http://pastebin.com/4YWBzaD8
[06:06] <giiker> Jon--: man, building it will take 35 mins total, by that time I will be asleep
[06:06] <subcool_> elektroid, well, after installing ekiga... nothing was found when trying to test the video
[06:07] <elektroid> oohhh
[06:07] <elektroid> got ya
[06:07] <giiker> Jon--: sorry, it is 02:07 am here
[06:07] <Jon--> giiker: no worries.
[06:07] <Auriga> Hello, Any one able to tell me how to stop opening applications from following me across desktops?
[06:07] <nishant> my synaptic is not working
[06:07] <Jon--> giiker: I just installed the getdeb repository, it has a later verison of pidgin
[06:07] <giiker> Jon--: I do think I'll make it
[06:08] <elektroid> subcool_: looks like you are just going to need to install from source, I ve been looking in my usual spots and thats all I ve seen
[06:08] <giiker> Jon--: I don't think I'll make it
[06:08] <damien> \server irc.recycled_irc.net
[06:08] <damien> \server irc.recycled-irc.net
[06:08] <subcool_> elektroid, thanks- all i got is google, and i get bs...
[06:09] <subcool_> what kinda cam do i have again?
[06:09] <subcool_> truevision
[06:09] <elektroid> yeah HP TrueVision
[06:09] <Chr|s> if I were to creat a launcher to open a program how would I add this command "padsp teamspeak"?
[06:09] <dr0id> hello friends
[06:09] <dr0id> howz it goin
[06:10] <giiker> Jon--: I was going to do evrything in virtual box, but then I said naaah, too long, i like pidgin too for their alerts, reminds me of Irc alerts somehow!
[06:10] <giiker> Jon--: will give it a try in the ffuture though
[06:10] <subcool_> according to ur website, my cam isnt supported
[06:10] <giiker> Jon--: it's a shame how Big Corporations shut us out though!
[06:11] <mean> i have two kernel ,but i always start with 2.6.32-24,how to change to 2.6.32-27?
[06:11] <Jon--> giiker: Not really.
[06:11] <giiker> Jon--: I meant MS...
[06:12] <Gadu> I'm choosing between 2 nearly identical graphics cards. Option 1 supports OpenGL 4.1 whereas Option 2 only supports 3.2 but it is slightly faster. (both are Radeon HD 6850 from same brand)
[06:12] <Gadu> What are the advantages of going up to 4.1 from 3.2?
[06:12] <Jon--> giiker: Microsoft has a closed source product that is designed to allow people to chat with other people who, most often, have their email account and choose to use their product.  Sure. Should we get mad or require it of them? I'm not sure you really can. It's within their rights to be competitive and keep their source closed, even if it makes us mad.
[06:12] <sacarlson>  mean: I use the gui startup-manager to change grub2 settings
[06:12] <Tohuw> Gadu: http://www.opengl.org/documentation/current_version/
[06:13] <Tohuw> Google is your friend, Gadu
[06:13] <Bing0> Hi.  Ubuntu 10.10 -- I have a flash issue(not speed, and full-screen works fine) on different computers with different browsers.  If I load a flash video(youtube for ex) and scroll down the flash video follows the page...also if I have other tabs open the flash overlays the other tabs.  Any ideas or anyone else having this issue?  Thanks.
[06:13] <Gadu> Tohuw: should have thought of it that way, kept searching OpenGL 3.2 vs 4.1 soft of thing which is pretty dead
[06:13] <giiker> Jon--: wau, by the speed of your typing I might venture to say you had that in a file and copied it, but who  knows right, haha!
[06:14] <Jon--> giiker: Nope, just a software developer who also chatted on MSN too much as a child.
[06:14] <Jon--> giiker: My keyboard and me are good friends ;)
[06:14] <nishant> hello , why my touchpad not workng
[06:14] <Gadu> Tohuw: thanks for the correct direction XD
[06:14] <sacarlson> mean: take a look at http://www.techienote.com/2010/10/changing-default-boot-option-in-ubuntu-10-10.html
[06:14] <Bing0> Gadu, have you googled your make/model with ubuntu 10.10 and tablet as keywords?
[06:14] <Bing0> err.. nish
[06:14] <Bing0> nishant,  have you googled your make/model with ubuntu 10.10 and tablet as keywords?
[06:15] <giiker> Jon--: you are my keyboard master, then! no joking eh!!
[06:15] <nishant> it was working fine ...stopped suddenly
[06:15] <Tohuw> You're welcome, Gadu
[06:15] <Bing0> nishant, does it work in another user account? have you tried a live cd to ensure the touchpad itself is functional?
[06:15] <nishant> no I can check in windows wait will be back
[06:15] <Bing0> Hi.  Ubuntu 10.10 -- I have a flash issue(not speed, and full-screen works fine) on different computers with different browsers.  If I load a flash video(youtube for ex) and scroll down the flash video follows the page...also if I have other tabs open the flash overlays the other tabs.  Any ideas or anyone else having this issue?  Thanks.
[06:16] <giiker> Jon--: I know all of your argument, and heard it many times, but I have seen many like MS do this and it has always been just to shut us out!
[06:16] <Gadu> Bing0: Tablet?
[06:16] <Bing0> Gadu, it was a tab completion typo..plz ignore
[06:17] <Gadu> Bing0: ah ok, i did find the necessary information to setup the graphics card properly with Ubuntu 10.10
[06:17] <giiker> Jon--: we'd better stop, before ubottu sends us to the cafe channel
[06:18] <Jon--> giiker: There's always PM.
[06:18] <jsoft> How to take screenshot?
[06:19] <sacarlson> jsoft <alt> printscreen
[06:20] <Tohuw> jsoft: The print screen button, by default. Configurabe in Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:20] <Jon--> jsoft: Press alt+ printscreen for current window, printscreen for entire display
[06:20] <Guest26494> can someone say a bad word i need to test something
[06:20] <rww> Guest26494: no.
[06:20] <subcool_> y is this always soo difficult
[06:20] <Guest26494> ok sorry then
[06:20] <ihack4fun> Work
[06:20] <Jon--> subcool_: With great power comes great responsibility.
[06:20] <Gadu> Guest26494: I will in a PM if that is suitable for your test
[06:20] <ihack4fun> Thats a four letter word
[06:20] <subcool_> Jon--, its a laptop---
[06:20] <Guest26494> gadu that would be great
[06:21] <Jon--> subcool_: What's your problem?
[06:21] <Guest26494> i made an xchat profanity filter
[06:21] <subcool_> Jon--, this isnt DieHard 4
[06:21] <subcool_> couple the guys were helping me..
[06:21] <giiker> Jon--: don't even go there, this afternoon, i learned how to use almost all screen keybindings, and I haven used irc commands in a long time, less dcc
[06:21] <Jon--> subcool_: You either need to get out (stay in?) more, or that was just a terrible troll.
[06:21] <subcool_> just trying to install my webcam
[06:21] <subcool_> troll?
[06:21] <elektroid> subcool_: your laptop is too new, you will have to try installing the drivers as I mentioned
[06:22] <elektroid> or try the newest version of Ubuntu
[06:22] <Jon--> giiker:   /msg Jon-- yo
[06:22] <subcool_> elektroid, working on it
[06:22] <giiker> subcool_: you have been trying to install your Webcam for the last 2 hours! come on, get some sleep!
[06:23] <subcool_> giiker, no- my gf has been giving me shit for 2 days
[06:23] <elektroid> subcool_: your webcam may very well not be supported by Linux
[06:23] <subcool_> elektroid, like everything else i purchase
[06:23] <Dwood> I have issues with brightness buttons on my laptop, someone want to help me out?
[06:23] <elektroid> I cant find anything except a few instances which is why I mentioned those drivers
[06:24] <hiexpo> wow u guys still messing with thatWB CAM
[06:24] <elektroid> otherwise, try getting another cam that is supported
[06:24] <Dwood> Ubuntu recognizes the buttons that they should change the brightness but nothing happens!
[06:24] <Jon--> Someone could have written him a driver by now.
[06:24] <elektroid> Jon--: by all means
[06:24] <Dwood> Well the brightness dialog comes up but it doesn't actually do anything!
[06:25] <Jon--> elektroid: D: Maybe. I have limited driver writing experience however ;P
[06:25] <subcool_> elektroid, i have two- but they suck
[06:25] <elektroid> subcool_: well, you may be in better luck if you have an older cam
[06:25] <_jesse_> having some issues with ssh and public key authentication; same private key works on one system, but not on another. Gives the follwing output: http://pastebin.com/4YWBzaD8
[06:25] <subcool_> im noticing
[06:26] <elektroid> unfortunately, anything cutting edge is unsupported or extremely buggy in Linux
[06:26] <Jon--> _jesse_: Unknown Paste ID!
[06:26] <elektroid> unless you buy things specifically oriented for the unix world
[06:26] <giiker> subcool_: you should go to the same store where you bought your laptop and tell them it doesn't work in DOS and get a refund, then when you get a replacement come back here and then we can help you
[06:26] <subcool_> im use to it-
[06:26] <Jon--> Except things that actually matter, like solid state drives
[06:26] <Dwood> Kinect was supported within 3 hours of its release...
[06:26] <Jon--> Where the Linux kernel actually had better support than Win7 for a while.
[06:26] <subcool_> my gf is just mad she bought me a new laptop- and i refuse to install windows on it
[06:26] <_jesse_> Jon--: hrm it must have expired
[06:26] <_jesse_> one moment
[06:26] <elektroid> Jon--: as I said, if it isnt already something the unix world supports
[06:27] <subcool_> giiker, lol- i wish. but this thing is 6 months old
[06:27] <nishant> anyone can tell me why snyaptics touchpad not coming up http://pastebin.com/mejjFSVK
[06:27] <subcool_> nishant, its better than a buggy one. My touchpad f's up all my typeing
[06:27] <_jesse_> having some issues with ssh and public key authentication; same private key works on one system, but not on another. Gives the follwing output: http://pastebin.com/dTkpEXtu
[06:27] <_jesse_> Jon--: ^
[06:28] <_jesse_> seems like ssh-agent is borked
[06:28] <elektroid> whats funny, I ve noticed a lot of people come to this channel and are like damn,my car doesnt run, whats wrong with it as if everyone knows
[06:28] <Bing0> Hi.  Ubuntu 10.10 -- I have a flash issue(not speed, and full-screen works fine) on different computers with different browsers.  If I load a flash video(youtube for ex) and scroll down the flash video follows the page...also if I have other tabs open the flash overlays the other tabs.  Any ideas or anyone else having this issue?  Thanks.
[06:28] <nishant> lol the problem is when u travel
[06:28] <dr0id> jesseeeeeeeeeee
[06:28] <jekin> hey need a help ... I have some problem with Ubuntu ..... I have a Nvidia FX5500 card which causes the booting from hard disk or live CD to fail ......  when i try the text mode this following message is comming up
[06:28] <jekin> No init found try parsing init=bootarg
[06:29] <Jon--> _jesse_: And you did ssh-add on your client PC correct?
[06:29] <MTecknology> what app is there for ripping cd's?
[06:29] <elektroid> to iso?
[06:29] <Dannyd> hi i have a ubuntu installed on a computer at home. But no internet connection. How can I update that computer, (can I get a list of packages from the update manager and go to an internet cafe and download them in some sort of automatic way)?
[06:29] <elektroid> you can use dd
[06:29] <jigynet> !deep scan
[06:29] <jigynet> =/
[06:29] <_jesse_> Jon--: yeah, and I tried it with ssh -i too
[06:29] <jekin> any idea on how i can atleast boot to text mode
[06:29] <giiker> Jon--: weird it did not work
[06:29] <MTecknology> elektroid: to any audio format that I can toss onto my phone
[06:30] <elektroid> ah ok CD to mp3 then?
[06:30] <MTecknology> ya
[06:30] <giiker> damn, my neighboors are fighting again!
[06:30] <MTecknology> i remember sound juicer from way way back.. i'm guessing there's a lot better now
[06:30] <elektroid> Dannyd: use apt-rdepends [name of package] and download those
[06:30] <Dwood> I have an issue with the brightness controls for my laptop. Someone willing to help?
[06:31] <tmandry> I'm stuck in lucid and I need to install ant 1.8 which isn't in the tree - how can I do this?
[06:31] <Jon--> _jesse_: Sorry I have to go to bed shortly  please find someone else to assist you.
[06:31] <JetBoyJetGirl> hint Dwood: just ask your question
[06:32] <sacarlson> jekin: can you try holding shift at boot and select recover boot or single user boot?
[06:32] <elektroid> MTecknology: sound juicer is still the main but you can look at everything here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[06:32] <JetBoyJetGirl> not sure if anyone in here would be able to help though tbh
[06:32]  * rww uses k3b for CD ripping <3
[06:32] <Dwood> I press the buttons on my laptop to control brightness, ubuntu recognizes them but the brightness does not change!
[06:32] <elektroid> that site has a ton, kaudiocreator, k3b, and soundjuicer so I figured the site was better
[06:33] <MTecknology> elektroid: thanks
[06:33] <andrew_46> MTecknology: This is an old guide of mine that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535950
[06:33] <jekin> sacarlson ....... i tried the recover mode but it also gives init not found error
[06:34] <elektroid> I am glad someone else likes k3b, I ve always liked it over Brasero
[06:34] <giiker> _jesse_: what are you trying to do again
[06:34] <Dannyd>  elektroid: once i do that the update manager will detect that they were installed right?
[06:34] <sacarlson> jekin: I guess your boot media must have mest up.  try boot a livecd and try mount the root partition to see if it's intact
[06:34] <giiker> ?
[06:34] <Dannyd> if i install the packages using dpkg -i
[06:34] <hiexpo> ya but k3b is kde
[06:34] <elektroid> Dannyd: hopefully, I ve been in a similar situation
[06:35] <elektroid> no internet and needing to grab packages from another pc
[06:35] <Chr|s> how do I make a bash script run from launcher?
[06:35]  * rww uses KDE <3
[06:35] <Dannyd> ok will try
[06:35] <elektroid> hiexpo: well, something wrong with using KDE apps?
[06:35] <Dannyd> thanks  elektroid:
[06:35] <elektroid> k3b works fine with the right libs in gnome
[06:35] <_jesse_> giiker: use ssh with pka; I think I might be onto something though
[06:35] <hiexpo> to each is own
[06:36] <ihack4fun> K3b good for DVD movie backups
[06:36] <ihack4fun> ?
[06:36] <giiker> _jesse_: what's your error?
[06:36] <jekin> sacarlson .. the boot CD also fails actually .......  it kind of freezes midway ... also tried the safe graphics mode while booting from CD still fails ......... as long as i am using the GFX card none of linux distro (tried fedora Kubuntu ubuntu)  fail to boot
[06:36] <elektroid> ihack4fun: as in to make .iso?
[06:37] <_jesse_> giiker: http://pastebin.com/dTkpEXtu
[06:37] <_jesse_> giiker: it looks like I didn't actually ssh-add this most recent key pair gen though
[06:37] <giiker> _jesse_: wait, can you delete known_hosts?
[06:37] <ihack4fun> I want to make bacup copies of my purchased movie DVDs
[06:37] <_jesse_> I think it's ok now
[06:37] <caffeinegum> hey all
[06:37] <giiker> _jesse_: ok
[06:38] <elektroid> ihack4fun: so why not just make a disk dump per and simple dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/cdrom_image.iso
[06:38] <_jesse_> giiker: though I'm surprised ssh-agent refused to use the key even with the -i flag on ssh
[06:38] <elektroid> pure*
[06:38] <realsifo> hi. how to install nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[06:38] <jekin> easy way is hardware>drives
[06:38] <MTecknology> !nvidia
[06:38] <realsifo> thanks :)
[06:39] <ihack4fun> Because I didn't know how
[06:39] <elektroid> I bet a lot of people dont even look at the forums
[06:39] <_jesse_> giiker: thanks anyway
[06:39] <jekin> elektriod ... lol ....... or not ever do google search
[06:40] <MTecknology> gah... i need to use this system more often... >250 updates every time i turn it on is ridiculous
[06:40] <andrew_46> ihack4fun: There is the hard way documented here: http://www.andrews-corner.org/fist.html
[06:40] <giiker> _jesse_: shouldn't you be using 5.8 though?
[06:40] <MTecknology> maybe if i stop using +1 ..
[06:40] <cryptodira> totem is complaining about needing a 'dvd subpicture decoder' in order to play a dvd..... vlc does not play this  either...it just opens and closes.... suggestions??
[06:40] <elektroid> MTecknology: are they security updates only?
[06:40] <Dwood> I press the buttons on my laptop to control brightness, ubuntu recognizes them but the brightness does not change!
[06:40] <MTecknology> elektroid: nah; most aren't
[06:40] <van7hu> hi,I just getting started with python under ubuntu,yes,I could call 'python' from terminal,but how could I know the version of it?
[06:41] <MTecknology> pyrofallout: python -v
[06:41] <hitmoon> yes
[06:41] <elektroid> MTecknology: you dont need to update everytime a new release comes out and I personally advise against it, if you feel the need just update at every release
[06:41] <elektroid> ubuntu release
[06:41] <hitmoon> -v give you it's version
[06:41] <MTecknology> pyrofallout: python -V **
[06:41] <van7hu> yeah
[06:41] <giiker> _jesse_: read thi just in case: http://openssh.com/security.html
[06:41] <MTecknology> elektroid: I've been using natty for a few months now :P
[06:42] <van7hu> I used -v but does not work :)
[06:42] <MTecknology> pyrofallout: python -V <-- capital
[06:42] <MTecknology> van7hu: -v verbose && -V version
[06:43] <cryptodira> totem is complaining about needing a 'dvd subpicture decoder' in order to play a dvd..... vlc does not play this  either...it just opens and closes.... suggestions??  10.04.2  amd/64
[06:43] <van7hu> thanks
[06:43] <MTecknology> !repeat > cryptodira
[06:43] <airtonix> totem: qqmoar
[06:43] <elektroid> MTecknology: what I mean is that, you expose yourself to a lot of bugs by staying bleeding edge, if you have a version of something and its solid, stay with it unless you need new features
[06:43] <giiker> good night everyone, thanx for those who helped me tonight with screen, i really enjoyed it!! see you in the afterlife, if there is any!, I hope! :-)
[06:43] <MTecknology> elektroid: I'm just a bleeding edge person :P   I actually roll my own kernel too :)
[06:43] <Dwood> I press the buttons on my laptop to control brightness, ubuntu recognizes them but the brightness does not change!
[06:43] <MTecknology> !repeat > Dwood
[06:44] <elektroid> MTecknology: well, I guess its your computer, so do as you like
[06:44] <MTecknology> elektroid: i'm jobless for another week; spare time to do stuff like that :P
[06:44] <jigynet> what is "deep scan"
[06:44] <elektroid> that seems to be Ubuntu's trend anyway, constant updating
[06:44] <giiker> night
[06:45] <elektroid> I think Ubuntu was originally based off of Debian SID so that make sense
[06:45] <elektroid> different Linux philosophy
[06:45] <jigynet> MTecknology, roll your own kernal?
[06:46] <elektroid> and his own cigarettes
[06:46] <alhamdi> hei
[06:46] <hiexpo> ihack4fun, dvdbackup works great
[06:46] <jigynet> lol
[06:46] <MTecknology> elektroid: every version does imports from debian unstable; until a few months prior the auto sync is stopped
[06:46] <needlez> Dwood: you still there??
[06:46] <MTecknology> jigynet: setup and compile and install by hand; very very fun once you know what you're doing
[06:46] <hiexpo> ihack4fun, but gotta use terminal
[06:47] <elektroid> MTecknology: thats why I stopped using Ubuntu for a desktop, since 10.04 everything was overly buggy to me
[06:47] <ihack4fun> Use Dvdbackup in term?
[06:47] <jigynet> MTecknology,  meaning there is code that is tweakable for certain desireable things? and then re-compiled?
[06:47] <hiexpo> yep
[06:47] <Bing0> Hi.  Ubuntu 10.10 -- I have a flash issue(not speed, and full-screen works fine) on different computers with different browsers.  If I load a flash video(youtube for ex) and scroll down the flash video follows the page...also if I have other tabs open the flash overlays the other tabs.  Any ideas or anyone else having this issue?  Thanks.
[06:48] <jigynet> MTecknology, what would you change for instance?
[06:48] <ihack4fun> Syntax pretty easy?
[06:48] <jigynet> and why
[06:48] <elektroid> hell, I am using kernel 2.6.33 because of the realtime patch, I prefer that then the latest kernel just because
[06:48] <hiexpo> dvdbackup is a terminal app
[06:49] <elektroid> jigynet: there are a lot of modules that the normal kernel loads and processor functions that are unneeded
[06:49] <hiexpo> and works perfect
[06:49] <elektroid> a lot
[06:49] <elektroid> but I think the majority of Ubuntu users dont notice
[06:50] <nishant> my touchpad problem was because of the laptop key combination that disables touch pad , it remains intact even after boot
[06:50] <jigynet> lol processor functions? you would wnat as much cpu functions as possible..optimizations..
[06:50] <hiexpo> !dvdbackup
[06:50] <jigynet> couldn't these modules be uninstalled later without having to edit the code?
[06:50] <ihack4fun> Got it on Sourceforge thx
[06:50] <elektroid> jigynet: not optimizations, things like profiling and accounting which are extra overhead
[06:51] <MTecknology> jigynet: it all can be changed; the kernel you're using is about 4.3MB with about 132MB in modules  --  mine is 2.2MB total; no modules
[06:51] <MTecknology> no overhead of added jun
[06:51] <jigynet> 4.3gb?
[06:51] <MTecknology> that's an m, not a g
[06:51] <elektroid> a 4.3 gb kernel LOL
[06:51] <MTecknology> i don't think that's even possible
[06:51] <elektroid> imagine that thing loading up at start
[06:51] <MTecknology> lol
[06:52] <jigynet> well when you say kernal i think of it as the entire os
[06:52] <MTecknology> need 8GB ram
[06:52] <jigynet> not just one module
[06:52] <ihack4fun> Is there a terminal app for IRC
[06:52] <hiexpo> 4.3 gig kernal wow
[06:52] <jigynet> xD
[06:52] <Flannel> ihack4fun: irssi
[06:52] <andrew_46> ihack4fun: irssi
[06:52] <andrew_46> snap
[06:52] <elektroid> you arent going to have 4.3 gb in modules either
[06:52] <MTecknology> the kernel isn't just a module; it's what the whole os runs on
[06:52] <hiexpo> ihack4fun, yes
[06:52] <MTecknology> ihack4fun: irssi and weechat
[06:53] <knew> hi
[06:53] <ihack4fun> Cool one more torrents?
[06:53] <hiexpo> !hi
[06:53] <knew> ubuntu is NOT recognising the monitor I just plugged in
[06:53] <jigynet> kernal = similar to registry? contains code that allows the os to run etc?
[06:53] <knew> i'm on a laptop
[06:53] <elektroid> MTecknology: do you use a particular kernel version based on kernel.org or ubuntu stream release?
[06:53] <hiexpo> !hello
[06:53] <andrew_46> ihack4fun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780
[06:53] <Chr|s> ihack4fun, you have a name like that and don't know about irssi o.0
[06:53] <nishant> how do I reduce the brightness of my LCD , the graphic properties option of Intel graphics is not there in Ubuntu only windows see it or installed in it
[06:53] <HyperHoRse> hi, what version of ubuntu is the best version
[06:53] <elektroid> jigynet: the kernel is the vmlinuz and your /lib/modules
[06:53] <MTecknology> elektroid: latest from kernel.org
[06:53] <nishant> 10.10 is the latest
[06:54] <HyperHoRse> what version does mark shuttworth use on his personal
[06:54] <jigynet> chrobi, he's probably learning how to hack
[06:54] <hiexpo> !ubuntu
[06:54] <HyperHoRse> I have 10.10
[06:54] <MTecknology> nishant: it's the latest 'release' but 11.04 is available; i think it hit beta
[06:54] <knew> help me
[06:54] <hiexpo> !lts
[06:54] <HyperHoRse> What is better in 11.04?
[06:54] <knew> ubuntu is NOT recognising the monitor I just plugged in
[06:54] <[thor]> HyperHoRse: shuttleworth uses 12:12
[06:54] <elektroid> HyperHoRse: the best is the latest release that works best for your particular hardware
[06:54] <nishant> yes 11.04 will be released in april
[06:54] <knew> i'm on a laptop
[06:54] <HyperHoRse> thor: what is 12:12
[06:54] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: its not a stable release yet so forget about 11.04
[06:54] <jigynet> elektroid, so yes
[06:55] <iceroot> [thor]: please dont make fun of people here
[06:55] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: But what is better and more improved?
[06:55] <hiexpo> don't feed the trolls
[06:55] <nishant> how do i install driver for intel based graphics card inbuilt
[06:55] <knew> why won't ubuntu recognise my external monitor I plugged in?!
[06:55] <elektroid> jigynet: look at /boot/vmlinuz, it wont be 4.3 gb
[06:55] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: 11.04 is using a very important kernel-patch which should bring better desktop performance
[06:55] <ihack4fun> Chris got me on that one
[06:55] <jigynet> MTecknology, so what would i change to optimize a 64bit xubuntu for my atom netbook?
[06:56] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: I have only 512mb of ram
[06:56] <oven_> i mounted a network drive through nautilus..how do I figure out info about it through the terminal, using smb://harddrive/share/ won't work, and i don't know of a /dev name and uuid is what i want to figure out..
[06:56] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: Will the latest ubuntu always run with my low amount of memory.
[06:56] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: i think with 512mb ram, lubuntu is worth  look
[06:56] <jigynet> elektroid, i didnt say my kernal was 4.3gb i was thinking the numbers mt said were from the entire install
[06:56] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: not very good
[06:56] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: I also have a 512mb graphics card
[06:56] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: not if you are using ubuntu (with gnome)
[06:56] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: Yeah but my 512mb geforce takes care of opengl
[06:57] <HyperHoRse> icroot: I actually get ok peformance and can still play games.
[06:57] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: doesnt matter, applications are not using the ram of your vga
[06:57] <jigynet> hyper it will run
[06:57] <MTecknology> jigynet: depends; you first need to know what you're doing; then you deeply need to understand the inside of your system and how it all fits together; it's not as simple as just a change here and there and done
[06:57] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: is that actually true because I thought opengl takes care of all that
[06:57] <MTecknology> elektroid: so... m4a, flac, mp3 ??
[06:57] <jigynet> hyper only reason it runs in low gfx mode is because your drivers ar not installed properly
[06:57] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: its as i said
[06:58] <nishant> Folks , I think Ubuntu should allow by default http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/articles/how-to-enable-intel-graphics-driver-for-ubuntu-10-10.html
[06:58] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: my peformance is not bad I can play games pretty good
[06:58] <elektroid> MTecknology: dont understand your question? which do I prefer? mp3 because of portability
[06:58] <jigynet> hyper what is your question about opengl specifically?
[06:58] <iceroot> !tab | jigynet
[06:58] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: Will ubuntu always support 512mb of ram
[06:58] <jigynet> a gefore 5500 for example support opengl 2.0 and previous versions
[06:58] <MTecknology> elektroid: if what your putting it on could understand anything; which would you use?
[06:58] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: What do you m ean
[06:59] <iceroot> HyperHoRse: its not a question of support, its a question about performance
[06:59] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: I mean open gl shouldn't it use all the graphics ram
[06:59] <hiexpo> i am just running a lappy and using ubuntu gnome and it runs fine
[06:59] <MTecknology> HyperHoRse: probably not 20yr from now where people can't believe we used to use DIMM's
[06:59] <elektroid> MTecknology: or if I want to give it to another person, I dont have to worry about it working or not
[06:59] <jigynet> most new games and hardcore cad and DCC uses opengl 3.0+
[06:59] <HyperHoRse> iceroot: more like a support question
[06:59] <nishant> ubuntu doest instal intel graphics driver default - why ?
[06:59] <Pete_> hello i need to no how to delete from comand line
[07:00] <hiexpo> run it till it breaks
[07:00] <HyperHoRse> MTecknology: 20years? Nah it would be sooner than that.  Is it not possible
[07:00] <jigynet> HyperHoRse,  nop thats good actually
[07:00] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: why
[07:00] <elektroid> MTecknology: unless you are doing serious recording as a musician or working with audio tracks from video, m4a isnt going to be that much of an advantage
[07:00] <hiexpo> and ytour on your own Pete_
[07:01] <MTecknology> HyperHoRse: i have an ssd and when i boot up and run basic stuff for a day I don't end up using >1GB of the 4GB I have available until I start compiling stuff; firefox being most of that
[07:01] <jigynet> HyperHoRse, cause you dont want to fill; up ram at all
[07:01] <iceroot> hiexpo: if you dont want to help instead of just posting google please stop support here
[07:01] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: oh
[07:01] <HyperHoRse> 10.10 is pretty good.
[07:01] <jigynet> most directx 7-9 games uuse like 200-1gig at most
[07:01] <elektroid> Firefox appears to have a memory hole too, will eat up the majority of memory out of a common users processes
[07:02] <HyperHoRse> I have a problem with 10.10 though.
[07:02] <HyperHoRse> I real bad problem.
[07:02] <hiexpo> iceroot, so you want me to tell tell people how to use the rm command   . ok    I am a linux guy
[07:02] <HyperHoRse> The real bad problem is I cant run unity.
[07:02] <elektroid> LOL hiexpo
[07:02] <iceroot> hiexpo: i want that you give people good support if not we dont need you here
[07:02] <HyperHoRse> I think it is the problem to do with the fact unity doesn't use my graphics card drivers.
[07:02] <MTecknology> elektroid: abcde is pretty neat :)
[07:02] <HyperHoRse> I have a fairly new graphics card.
[07:02] <mean> i have 2 kernel but always start with 2.6.32-24,how to change to  2.6.32-27?
[07:02] <jigynet> unity?
[07:02] <iceroot> hiexpo: its fine if you are a linux guy a know a lot but that doesnt make a good support here
[07:03] <HyperHoRse> um the desktop thing
[07:03] <jigynet> you mean the unity3d players for battlestar gallactica?
[07:03] <HyperHoRse> the new one that came out
[07:03] <elektroid> mean: what do you mean at start up?
[07:03] <jigynet> hmm
[07:03] <elektroid> mean: if you are using grub its a simple selection at boot
[07:03] <elektroid> provided you have mention of the other kernel in grub
[07:03] <hiexpo> iceroot, i always give good support and always have i help in aircrack-ng backtrack-linux and pentoo
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> you know
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> when you login and stuff
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> and its like choose this one
[07:04] <hiexpo> and here in ubuntu
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> and you go into that one
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> and it has very simple control down the side
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> on the left
[07:04] <FloodBot2> HyperHoRse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> and its like always freezing the computer
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> also why doesn't it use the nvidia graphics card drivers
[07:04] <elektroid> now we know why you are called HyperHoRse
[07:04] <jigynet> what version of unity would i get for the amd64 install?
[07:04] <HyperHoRse> yeah
[07:05] <HyperHoRse> im from www.atomicmpc.com.au
[07:05] <elektroid> you were created by a website?
[07:05] <[thor]> HyperHoRse: help with unity can probably be had in #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <jigynet> hyper it is using the gfx card, what makes you think its not?
[07:05] <HyperHoRse> cos when i go into appearance
[07:05] <HyperHoRse> it says it cant do extra.
[07:05] <jigynet> extra??
[07:06] <jigynet> what is that?
[07:06] <Chr|s> how can I make a bash file linkable through a launcher?
[07:06] <mean> elektroid, i installed startupmanage but the grub menu didnt show up.
[07:06] <Chr|s> for some reason its not opening up the file
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> go into appearance
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> then select extra
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> for extra desktop effects
[07:06] <jigynet> you need to download them?
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> no
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> i mean
[07:06] <jigynet> yes.
[07:06] <FloodBot2> HyperHoRse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:06] <jigynet> xD
[07:06] <elektroid> mean: update /boot/grub/grub.conf and then do grub install
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> why doesn't unity work with them
[07:06] <HyperHoRse> i already have them
[07:07] <jigynet> oh k
[07:07] <HyperHoRse> im using them now
[07:07] <rww> HyperHoRse: Please stop abusing your enter key.
[07:07] <jigynet> he's not flooding....
[07:07] <MTecknology> yes he is
[07:07] <jigynet> he's talking to like 4 people lol
[07:07] <elektroid> mean: if when you compiled the new kernel and did make bzImage, it should have updated the grub.conf and should only need to do 'grub install'
[07:07] <HyperHoRse> what is ubuntu+1
[07:07] <rww> jigynet: Then they should probably start listening to the floodbots and not using their Enter key as punctuation.
[07:07] <lancel> its horSePower!
[07:07] <MTecknology> HyperHoRse: the next version of ubuntu
[07:08] <hiexpo> Pete_, google rm -rf  iceroot says ok to giveyou goodhelp on how to delete a folder so there ya go
[07:08] <HyperHoRse> so why am i supposed to tell them about my problem
[07:08] <elektroid> I can tell HyperHoRse uses text msging a lot
[07:08] <rww> !google > hiexpo
[07:08] <lancel> we need hp:s for ubuntu
[07:08] <HyperHoRse> my problem with unity not working with my graphics card drivers
[07:08] <jigynet> xD its not abuse of the enter key its adding additional details he left out of the previous lines
[07:08] <lancel> so far it is going with diesel
[07:08] <elektroid> jigynet: well, the idea is to type lines out longer
[07:08] <iceroot> hiexpo: are you a troll?
[07:08] <jigynet> so what shoulld be said is..please try to put everything you want to say in as little space as possible and on one line
[07:08] <MTecknology> jigynet: if you have an issue, it doesn't belong here
[07:09] <iceroot> hiexpo: i said we dont need google here
[07:09] <rww> jigynet: If you have an issue with the way the floodbots and channel operators are coded, please visit #ubuntu-ops.
[07:09] <jigynet> whoa
[07:09] <jigynet> it's just a suggestion...
[07:09] <jigynet> i'm not picking a fight
[07:09] <HyperHoRse> so why doesn't unity work with my graphics card drivers.
[07:09] <rww> jigynet: As was that. Now, back to Ubuntu technical support.
[07:09] <jigynet> k xD
[07:10] <bsdnux> i'm trying to recreate a raid1. both disks have 3 partitions. 2 of them where joined fine on md0 and md1, but when trying to add sdb3 to md2 i get mdadm: /dev/sdb3 not large enough to join array
[07:10] <bsdnux> the disks are the same size. mdadm is v<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:10] <nishant> hello , does ubuntu use the latest Linux Kernel
[07:10] <HyperHoRse> I thought unity was what ubuntu is changing to. But I dont understand because extra desktop effects no longer works in 10.10 due to it not using the graphics card drivers not provided by ubuntu
[07:10] <HyperHoRse> or canocal
[07:10] <HyperHoRse> or whatever,
[07:10] <rww> nishant: No, the current stable version of Ubuntu uses 2.6.35.
[07:10] <jigynet> hyper what?
[07:11] <jigynet> so your using nvidia drivers instead of what was provided by ubuntu
[07:11] <theclassycorsair> what's that website, where you can submit and VOTE on commands? like with switches and combined to do useful and neat things?
[07:11] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: in unity. I can't use unity because of the graphics card drivers. Extra Desktop Effects does not work.
[07:11] <nishant> so in general is there a lag wrt to latest kernel , is compiling the kernel on own own advised?
[07:11] <elektroid> nishant: you can generally go to www.distrowatch.com and see which version of the kernel and main software a distro uses and no maverick 10.10 uses 2.6.35
[07:11] <rww> nishant: No, we advise that you use the version that comes with Ubuntu, as that's the one we support ;)
[07:11] <jigynet> hmm i have a nvidia 5500 with 512 let me see if i can replicate the issue
[07:12] <nishant> Right
[07:12] <HyperHoRse> jigynet: What is up with Unity? also when I try to use unity for a limited amount of time it freeze the computer and i have to ctrl alt f7 ctrl alt del
[07:12] <hiexpo> iceroot, thats fine if we don't need google here > but you know when i need to find out something i use google to find out what itmeans     > so if that is the case why does google post anything about ubuntu   >     don't hack an google it is our engine
[07:12] <jigynet> one second pls xD
[07:12] <HyperHoRse> so does that mean that unity will be for basic computers that dont have graphics hardware?
[07:12] <nigelb> nishant: you dont get the bug fixes or security fixes if you compile your own kernel, neither can you log bugs.  They will be closed since we don't support mainline.
[07:13] <nishant> right thats fine
[07:13] <rww> hiexpo: You are welcome to use Google to find things out. You are also welcome to post those things in #ubuntu if answer someone's question. Please don't, however, tell people to Google things.
[07:13] <HyperHoRse> so basically
[07:13] <HyperHoRse> im not sure.
[07:13] <HyperHoRse> whats going on here.
[07:13] <rww> s/answer/they answer/
[07:13] <hiexpo> and i do work for google
[07:13] <MTecknology> nishant: if you miss one kernel module everything else could work fine but firefox might break; leading you to think it's a firefox issue, when it's not
[07:13] <jigynet> crap.. nvm forgot i had to format that pc
[07:14] <jigynet> =c
[07:14] <nishant> I see , I understand
[07:15] <MTecknology> nishant: it's also a huge undertaking; best done by really smart people that have minds of steel and glasses of whiskey
[07:15] <nishant> thanks so I guess I have better things to do :)
[07:16] <jokersmile> How do I make a startup thumb drive using puppy linux but putting ubuntu 10.10 on the thumb drive? And will it work?
[07:16] <airtonix> jokersmile: investigate the use of grub2
[07:16] <MTecknology> jokersmile: i 'think' you can just download the ubuntu iso and use dd to copy over the iso to the drive
[07:17] <rww> MTecknology: nope :(
[07:17] <MTecknology> oh.. :(
[07:17] <jokersmile> i think that i have tryied reading about how grub works and it's confussing
[07:17] <jokersmile> i already downloaded the iso file and copied it to the thumb drive
[07:18] <airtonix> jokersmile: then you need to get over that quick, because it's going to be the only way
[07:19] <pooz>  millions of people must use ubuntu.
[07:19] <jokersmile> ok then any one know of any user friendly tutorials for that. I prefer pictures. I'm a visual person.
[07:19] <airtonix> jokersmile: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-create-multiboot-liveusb-using.html
[07:20] <airtonix> jokersmile: i had to sacrifice my child to get that link
[07:20] <zodiac207> jokersmile: about what?
[07:20] <jokersmile> zodiac207: I was talking about grub
[07:20] <airtonix> grub2 you mean
[07:21] <mwiegand> Just got a quick add-apt-repository question: Would add-apt-repository on 10.10 add deb-src lines to the sources.list, even when given a repository starting with "deb "?
[07:21] <zodiac207> jokersmile: grub2?
[07:21] <jokersmile> if that's the latest and updated and recommeded one from the community, then yeah
[07:22] <MTecknology> elektroid: looks like mp3 defaults add an extra 20-25% over the m4a defauls; i'll assume it's just compression :)
[07:22] <airtonix> mwiegand: add-apt-repository does not add lines to /etc/source.list
[07:22] <airtonix> jokersmile: grub2 is the one that will let you do multiboot from usb
[07:22] <airtonix> jokersmile: it lets you boot straight from iso files on a partition
[07:22] <xZwhite> hi
[07:23] <mwiegand> airtonix: It sure does on 10.04.
[07:23] <airtonix> mwiegand: no. it adds files to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:23] <mwiegand> airtonix: It even says so on its man page.
[07:23] <jokersmile> will it work on 10.10
[07:23] <dpetrek> hihos
[07:24] <xZwhite> if i does apt-get source on a package how can i know how the deb package is compiled?
[07:24] <jigynet> sup
[07:24] <mwiegand> airtonix: But aside from that, it should not add deb-src lines if not requested, right?
[07:24] <airtonix> mwiegand: every single add-apt-repository action i've executed for the last year has only created a relevant file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:24] <dpetrek> so i have ubuntu server with shortage of disk space. command line access only. tried checking whats using the space with df -k. says 96% use on /dev/sda1 which is mounted on /
[07:25] <dpetrek> how can i see in detail where are top consumers
[07:25] <eckirchn> cmd line top
[07:25] <mean> how to load the new kernel?
[07:26] <airtonix> mwiegand: yes, it will create a file of the name related to the ppa you requested in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and fill that file with the relevant deb & deb-src lines
[07:26] <overclucker> dpetrek: du -h --max-depth=1 / works for finding bloat.
[07:26] <MTecknology> Doonz: du -hs /*
[07:26] <MTecknology> dpetrek: *
[07:26] <dpetrek> let me try
[07:27]  * hiexpo reads up and only sees one thing about recommending Google and it was about the rm command > so is gonna make recommendations to Google  about posting Ubuntu  topics any longer  in Google
[07:27] <mwiegand> airtonix: So it will add deb-src entries, even when the repository starts only with "deb http..."?
[07:27] <mean> i have kernel 2.6.32-27 but it always start with 2.6.32-24,how to load the new kernel?
[07:28] <dpetrek> this does not make sense guys, although i can see disk usage by folders now, the sum of usage by fodlers is not what df -k reports for /
[07:28] <blackshirt> mean: i think you need update your grub menu, and then reboot with latest kernel
[07:29] <mean> i tried it,but it didnt work
[07:29] <MTecknology> dpetrek: pastebin both
[07:29] <blackshirt> not show on your grub menu ?
[07:29] <mean> even no grub menu  show up...
[07:30] <MTecknology> crap... i can't make the power cord stick in
[07:31] <dpetrek> MTecknology: http://pastebin.com/M19TahFj
[07:32] <xZwhite> if i does apt-get source on a package how can i know how the deb package is compiled?
[07:33] <jigynet> ok i installed unity where is it?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> run it from a command line.. theres no icon.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> since its a window manager type thing.
[07:33] <jigynet> ah
[07:33] <MTecknology> dpetrek: where's the last line?
[07:33] <Fuchs> it should be listed as a session in your display manager (where you log in)
[07:33] <overclucker> dpetrek: problem is you are using different units of measurement for each command.(-k, -h)
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[07:34] <jraws> Thanks! :)
[07:34] <dpetrek> overclucker: still it dos not sum well
[07:34] <FloodBot2> jraws: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <dpetrek> MTecknology: everything is pasted
[07:34] <mean> blackshirt, yes,there is no grub menu when booting
[07:34] <MTecknology> dpetrek: look again
[07:34] <dpetrek> overclucker: /dev/sda1 should have about 10 gigs
[07:34] <jigynet> so unity will replace my current gui? or does it run overtop of it and use up more cpu/ram
[07:34] <dpetrek> overclucker: i can't find those 10 gigs
[07:35] <mwiegand> airtonix: Ping?
[07:35] <MTecknology> dpetrek: also.... look at /var/
[07:35] <Device> hello, short of pushing reset... what to do in the event of ubuntu locking up?
[07:35] <MTecknology> reisub
[07:35] <MTecknology> http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[07:35] <hiexpo> hola Dr_Willis
[07:36] <MTecknology> Device: ^
[07:36] <arand> Device: ctrl+alt+F2 login and kill things, or if that doesn't work, reisub.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> howdy hiexpo
[07:37] <Device> arand, i cant get any keyboard access at all, i tried that already. i even lost the mouse now too.
[07:37] <hiexpo> how you doing this evening Dr_Willis
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> getting ready to take a long drive on vacation. wife wanted to leave early.. so i came hopme early.. they are all sleeping still..
[07:37] <pooz> so how come unity doesn't work with a graphics card in 10.10
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Aint faily fun. :)
[07:38] <pooz> oi i thought ubuntu was supposed to support that
[07:38] <Device> arand, i almost want to cry lol. the ever faithful ubuntu has crashed on me for the first time ever...
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> it would depend on the driver support for that card pooz
[07:38] <pooz> yeah it works fine in desktop
[07:38] <pooz> but as far as support goes' why did they release unity to 10.10 when it has such bad issues with graphics card
[07:39] <jigynet> ??
[07:39] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, so being patient <
[07:39] <hiexpo> :0
[07:39] <jigynet> cause its meant to use opengl as an accelerater
[07:39] <hiexpo> :)
[07:39] <pooz> so
[07:39] <cdbs> pooz: as for that question, you need to really wait for 11.04 next month. You'll like it. No graphic issues now.
[07:39] <jigynet> pooz gotta start somewhere right?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> perhaps because they knew it was getting a total work over for 11.04
[07:39] <pooz> cdbs will 11.04 have a more improved unity interface?
[07:40] <pooz> unity is cool but some of the interface sucked
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> pooz:  thats its MAIN feature.
[07:40] <pooz> MAIN?
[07:40] <cdbs> pooz: a completely rewritten one, using compiz/QT instead of mutter, much faster, and quite many changes
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Ive rarely seen mentioned any other improvements/changes in 11.04
[07:40] <pooz> cdbs: good work ubuntu
[07:40] <pooz> good work mark shuttle worth
[07:40] <cdbs> pooz: yes, no more gnome-panel in 11.04. Unity for both desktop and netbool
[07:40] <cdbs> *netbook
[07:41] <pooz> will 11.04 have more games?
[07:41] <cdbs> pooz: http://ubuntuone.com/p/hx4/ is a screenshot of the applications place, and http://ubuntuone.com/p/hx5/ is dash
[07:41] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, where you guys going   . hopefully a nice place
[07:42] <knew> somebody help me!
[07:42] <cdbs> pooz: okay, since this is a support channel, further discussion on 11.04 should be on #ubuntu+1 or (if not a support question) on #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <knew> ubuntu is not recognising my external monitor
[07:42] <cdbs> knew: Which version of Ubuntu?
[07:43]  * cdbs knows of some multi-monitor issues on 10.04
[07:43] <knew> cdbs: 10.04
[07:43] <cdbs> aha!
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> knew:  depends on yoru video chipset and drivers also.
[07:43] <knew> 8600m GT up to date nvidia drivers
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> knew:  desktop/laptop?
[07:43] <knew> laptop
[07:43] <MTecknology> cdbs: i think MOST issues happen to be video...
[07:43] <knew> also, it recognises up until ubuntu starts
[07:43] <cdbs> knew: What happens when you open up Monitors in the system/preferences menu?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> upto-date as in from the nvidia web site? or latest in the repos?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> knew:  you did run the nvidia-setttings tool?
[07:44] <knew> cdbs: It tells me it doesn't work with my driver, and it'll open my nvidia control center thing
[07:44] <knew> cdbs: the nvidia control center thing does not see any other monitor
[07:44]  * cdbs doesn't know much about the nVidia world :(
[07:44] <knew> Dr_Willis: yes, it does not see any other monitpr
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> knew:  you might need to hit the special laptop keys to toggle the monitor. OR ive seen some cases where teh monitor must be plugged in when the system boots.
[07:45] <Raptors> http://pastebin.com/VQpZkGVi
[07:45] <Raptors> Does anyone know how to fix that?
[07:45] <knew> Dr_Willis: yes, i do that, and it switches to my external monitor
[07:45] <xxmmaann> hi can you help me i have an error when try play youtube video in totem media player_GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error
[07:45] <knew> Dr_Willis: but then when ubuntu login screens comes up it goes back to my monitor screen
[07:45] <Raptors> (I'm on Debian so I can't use ubuntu emerald package)
[07:45] <Raptors> I tried asking in #compiz and #debian but those channels are deal
[07:45] <Raptors> dead
[07:45] <knew> Dr_Willis: any ideas?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  emerald is basically a dead project.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> knew:  not really. My nvidia laptops all work good.
[07:46] <MTecknology> Raptors: try #debian on irc.oftc.net
[07:46] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, what replaced it?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  nothing.. it died..
[07:46] <knew> Dr_Willis: whatever, fuck ubuntu
[07:46] <Raptors> I want to use the emerald themes though :(
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> knew:   whatever.. have a nice day.
[07:46] <jigynet> http://pastebin.com/LsBSN6Ud my first attempt at running unity in 1010 is this bug or error knonw?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  emerald is so problematic. and proberly will never get fixed.. so use it if you want i guess.. good luck with getting any sypport on it.
[07:47] <Raptors> Why was it killed?
[07:47] <MTecknology> is emerald even worked on anymore?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> developers all moved on...
[07:47] <MTecknology> i thought that was tossed out years ago
[07:47]  * Raptors sobs
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> thats how  GPL stuff often dies. :)
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> The emerald theme servers all shut down about 2 yr ago? 1 yr ago?  i forget...
[07:48] <Raptors> There is nothing better available though
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> i dont find emerald that impressive.. sorry..
[07:48] <MTecknology> Raptors: compiz
[07:48] <jigynet> lol@knew he'll be back xD
[07:48] <hiexpo> compiz
[07:48] <Raptors> Emerald is the theme manager for Compiz
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> emerald is a window decorator that runs along side compiz...
[07:49] <MTecknology> jigynet: unfortunately; probably true
[07:49] <overclucker> dpetrek: it does look like there are files hidden somewhere. you could try looking under your mount points.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> compiz has 3 differnt window decorators it can use. a GTK one, a KDE one . and emerald.
[07:49] <hiexpo> ^ yep
[07:49] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, can you at least look at the paste
[07:49] <Raptors> it looks like a GTK prob
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Im suprised more window deforators have not came out.
[07:49] <Raptors> http://pastebin.com/VQpZkGVi
[07:49] <dpetrek> overclucker: how to do that?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> but with the  changes in 11.04 - in 3 yrs.. compiz may  be dead. :) or at least very sick.
[07:50] <jigynet> http://pastebin.com/LsBSN6Ud does this look familiar to anyone, should i submit it?
[07:50] <MTecknology> i like openbox; everything i need and all the extra transparency and shadow stuff i want
[07:50] <overclucker> dpetrek: unmount em
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> MTecknology:  i read where TWM even has compositing options now.
[07:50] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, what did they add in 11.04
[07:50] <Raptors> ?
[07:50] <Raptors> that makes compiz sick
[07:50] <jigynet> well why can't compiz use directx or gpu acceleration/optimizations?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  the new interface Unity revisted..
[07:51] <Raptors> ugh, unity
[07:51] <dpetrek> overclucker: how
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> jigynet:  directx on linux?  Compiz does use acell here.
[07:51] <Device> fifteen minutes of distrsction and the ever faithful ubuntu has given meancontrol again.
[07:51] <jigynet> lol xD well something like directx to give apps or gui the benefits of use of the gpu with cpu
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> that would be 'opengl' i think jigynet.
[07:52] <MTecknology> opengl is scary land
[07:52] <jigynet> yea opengl
[07:52] <jigynet> my bad
[07:52] <jigynet> xD
[07:52] <Raptors> LOL DirectX
[07:52] <tsimpson> jigynet: compiz does use gpu acceleration, where available
[07:53] <Raptors> Can someone please at least look at my paste :(
[07:53] <Raptors> http://pastebin.com/VQpZkGVi
[07:53] <jigynet> so what would be diffrent? why use unity?
[07:53] <Raptors> I think it's more secure
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> If you want fancy effects with out the hardware requirements.. check out  the latest Enlightment, or if you want to go to 'way out there land' theres metisse. :)
[07:53] <Raptors> and adds some more features
[07:54] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, are they as good as compiz?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> 11.04 is just moveing ubuntu to a new directon
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  they can do  effects.. they are not the big hogs that compiz is... they have some features lacking in compiz.
[07:54] <tsimpson> jigynet: unity is supposed to be a unified UI, compiz is just a window manager
[07:54] <Raptors> I like it how it is right now
[07:55] <overclucker> dpetrek: type mount. it should show you what is mounted, and where. you can run umount on the mount point, or the mounted device.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Enlightment - is slowly growing into a 'desktop' :) metisse is a window manager that can do fancy effects  without needing 3d acell.
[07:55] <Raptors> I don't want this unity crap. :|
[07:55] <tsimpson> Raptors: the code is teh broken, unless you know C and GDK/GTK, you're stuck
[07:55] <jigynet> is unity more widely  supported and adaptable then compiz? tsimpson..so compiz has dependancies and unity is self contained and streamedlined because of this?
[07:55] <Raptors> ugh
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Unity is the next generation. :) i guess youi can say.
[07:56] <Raptors> I guess I'll use the ubuntu package on debian and hope that it was brick my system
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> I recall when compiz was in version like .0001 :) and was a total disaster.  Unity is proberly at  .01 level.
[07:56] <tsimpson> jigynet: compiz doesn't do anything other than make your windows wobble etc, unity is something completely different
[07:56] <Raptors> tsimpson, it does more then just make your windows wobble
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> it can also make the cube!
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:56] <tsimpson> Raptors: ^ 'etc'
[07:56] <jigynet> xD
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Cubewiz -
[07:57] <Raptors> Compiz > *
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> I can think of like 4 Compiz features that actually add functionality to my systems/work flow.
[07:57] <Raptors> I'm probably going to stick with x11/compize for a while
[07:58] <jigynet> hmmdr?
[07:58] <Raptors> Maybe mess around with unity in a VM or something
[07:59] <dpetrek> overclucker: http://pastebin.com/G5A8CbyK
[07:59] <wincent> yy
[07:59] <dpetrek> overclucker: maybe it could be that fsck should be run on the filesystem
[07:59] <jigynet> why would having terminal open, cause all windows to assume terminal window's size is fullscreen and not allow larger or drag them outside of it??
[07:59] <endafy> hey how do I enable the Nvidia drivers if they don't show up in hardware drivers list?
[08:00] <jigynet> endafy, is it onboard or integrated?
[08:00] <wincent> hello
[08:00] <wincent> how to install Chinese spelling tool?
[08:00] <endafy> jigynet, its a card, but nvm I am just going to install it with the .run file I just wanted a gui way of doing it
[08:01] <jigynet> um no?
[08:01] <overclucker> dpetrek: are any of the mounts in /storage currently in use?
[08:01] <jigynet> use synaptic or find the drivers using the provided software
[08:01] <piojunbabia> hi, is there a channel for vb.net progammers?
[08:01] <dpetrek> overclucker: yes there are
[08:01] <endafy> the "provided software" is a disk with Windows only drivers on it
[08:01] <piojunbabia> what is it?
[08:02] <syrinx_> !.net
[08:02] <dpetrek> overclucker: vmware1 points to one hard disk, vmware2 points to another one
[08:02] <syrinx_> awww
[08:02] <jigynet> endafy, the provided ubuntu software add/remove in the applictions menu...
[08:02] <endafy> Sparkle 8400GS with 1G DDR3
[08:02] <Raptors> What do you guys think of gnome shell?
[08:02] <hiexpo> !compiz \ hiexpo
[08:02] <syrinx_> wonderful
[08:02] <Raptors> I think it looks stupid
[08:02] <syrinx_> !asp
[08:02] <piojunbabia> #!asp?
[08:02] <sackbox> reminds me of my mobile phone
[08:03] <jigynet> endafy, that should have been detected and installed and probably is??
[08:03] <hiexpo> !compiz | hiexpo
[08:03] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, IDK what you find so great about Unity3d. It looks pretty weak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoUTBsL7M1s
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  ive not even tried it. so have no oponion on it.. it is going to be what gets pushed.. so thats the bottom line.
[08:03] <jigynet> endafy,  using the add/remove software in the apps pull down menu will list installed drivers with a gren check mark
[08:04] <endafy> jigynet, its all good the add/remove doesnt have any drivers and I really dislike synaptic
[08:04] <overclucker> dpetrek: probably not a good idea to just unmount them. you might want to reboot into a recovery console if you can. then check for files in the unmounted mount points.
[08:04] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, maybe by ubuntu. I don't think everyone will be pushing it
[08:04] <endafy> sudo su then .sh NV*.run should do the trick
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ive used everything from GeOS on my C64 to twm, to you name whatever windowmanager/desktop out..
[08:04] <wincent> hello
[08:04] <jigynet> endafy,  so you went to nvida and download their drivers and expect them to work with ubuntu?
[08:04] <Raptors> I don't like the look of the side launcher.]
[08:04] <endafy> no but we'll see in a moment
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  dosent really matter.. Im in #ubuntu support. :) and i imagine other disrtos will follow. or go gnome-3 wich is also going similer routes.
[08:04] <Raptors> Looks pretty horrible to me :/
[08:05] <endafy> if it is proprietary they are going to be the same driver
[08:05] <Raptors> I'll probably have to switch back to windows or something before I use Gnome3 or Unity
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> I feel most docks are Horriable.. but that dosent stop people from using them
[08:05] <Raptors> They both look really horrible
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  thats the beuaty of gpl/linux. do what you want. I perfer function over looks.
[08:05] <endafy> Raptors, I am on Gnome 3 on my other Desktop and it is amazing
[08:05] <jigynet> endafy,  it DOES list your driver look for nvidia
[08:06] <Raptors> Hopefully there will be an option to disable gnome shell
[08:06] <endafy> brb says I have to reboot
[08:06] <jigynet> endy no proprietary drivers are completely diffrent from ubuntu supported and compiled drivers
[08:06] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, it doesn't look that functional. My Gnome 2.3.2 looks far more function then that
[08:06] <sackbox> ill use gnome3 if i get to decide what apps shows up where
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:  the operative word is 'looks' you havent tried it..
[08:07] <Raptors> Dr_Willis, the whole design looks whack like the lack of minimize
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> kde4 has Much more 'functions' then anything out.. so much.. its majorly confuseing.
[08:07] <Raptors> and no panels
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> Raptors:   differnt workflow/paradigm.  no need for them.
[08:07] <Raptors> and having to go into a giant menu to find an application
[08:07] <endafy> groovy it worked
[08:08] <sackbox> kde need to optimization and stability
[08:08] <jigynet> the .run file works??
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> I will wait for 11.04 to come out - then decide..
[08:08] <endafy> jigynet, lol yes
[08:08] <endafy> same driver
[08:08] <jigynet> you have nvidia control panel and can adjust resolution etc?
[08:08] <endafy> and sackbox try KDE 4.6 then talk
[08:08] <Raptors> I can't stand KDE's design either. I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'd probably have to switch to Windows/XFCE
[08:09] <dpetrek> overclucker: i think i don't understand what you want me to do.
[08:09] <Raptors> Or not upgrade to gnome3
[08:09] <cdbs> !ot | Raptors
[08:09] <endafy> KDE's "design" in KDE 4 can be made to look and mimic Gnome 2 Interface
[08:09] <jigynet> endafy, test it by running software then requires a 3d card
[08:09] <endafy> 3D effects enabled
[08:09] <hiexpo> <     please use windoz
[08:09] <dpetrek> overclucker: there is alot of consumption in backup, vmware1 and vmware2 but these point to another storage
[08:09] <endafy> you know what, please go use Windows we wont miss you much
[08:10] <jigynet> 3d effects are already enabled and use cpu??
[08:10] <endafy> jigynet, yes I just dislike using the .run as it has no interface to speak of
[08:10] <hiexpo> bye bye Raptors
[08:10] <Raptors> I could??
[08:10] <jigynet> exactly
[08:10]  * Dr_Willis goes back to BeOS.
[08:10] <Raptors> err
[08:10] <Raptors> hiexpo ??
[08:10] <mads> Hi: The ISO images on http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/, what time zone are the "time modified" set at. or what i really what to know is at what time are the daily iso updated for download?
[08:11] <cbf> morning chaps
[08:11] <jigynet> endafy, pls test it
[08:11] <overclucker> dpetrek: what i'm thinking, is that there may be files underneath one or more of your mount points. it would explain missing missing disk space.
[08:11] <endafy> I just dont see if you dont like KDE, how you could say you want to use Windows 7 with a straight face
[08:11] <hiexpo> Raptors, yu said you couldgo back to windoz   ?
[08:11] <cbf> got two ubuntu 8.04 LTS boxes, both using identical resolv.conf for two AD DNS servers
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> mads:  i doubt if its at a set time.   given the server load and  other things.
[08:11] <cbf> one will resolve hostnames
[08:11] <jigynet> linux is not windows...therefore kde can not be compared with windows
[08:11] <cbf> and the other needs the domain suffix before it will resolve... any ideas?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> jigynet:  theres kde ported to windows. :)
[08:12] <jigynet> lol!
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> or at least parts of it.
[08:12] <mads> Dr_Willis: they are updated every morning.
[08:12] <Raptors> hiexpo, ya when gnome 3 comes out.. or just stay with current Gnome
[08:12] <endafy> jigynet, I know but Windows 7 and KDE look so similar
[08:12] <cdbs> !ot | jigynet, endafy, Dr_Willis
[08:12] <sackbox> jigynet: right. windoz doesn't compare. ubuntu/gnome is rock solid and thats what matters
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> mads:  proberly an automated script. so server load/downtime  could delay them.
[08:12] <jigynet> porting to windows.. how redundant and pointless
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> jigynet:  im using kvirc righjt now on windows.. so its not pointless. :)
[08:12] <mads> Dr_Willis: Thansk
[08:13] <jigynet> cdavis, o.0
[08:13] <endafy> jigynet, please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:13] <cdbs> jigynet: PLEASE stop that. This is a support channel
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> im so used to weechat.. using  a GUI irc client seems.. weird.
[08:13] <hiexpo> Raptors, be careful don't threaten the linux community   lol   we don't wanna lose any business to microsoft
[08:14] <Raptors> lol
[08:14] <Raptors> What business?
[08:14] <Raptors> linux is free
[08:14] <jigynet> uh cdbs pls dont just assume we are not talking about or supporting something..everything we are talking about is in relation to a support question
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Linux is used by a lot of businesses..  and other comercial ventures.
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> the licensing dosent really figure into it for them much. Other then its a very open license.
[08:15] <cdbs> jigynet: In relation, right? But the discussion moved offtopic, so it isn't valid here. The support question has been answered already
[08:15] <jigynet> really?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> Im still waiting for a ubuntu branded tablet to come out.
[08:15] <Guest31863> ciao
[08:16] <Guest31863> !list
[08:16] <jigynet> well we are going oftopic talking about this and so i will stop talking about your actions as they are offtopic
[08:17] <dpetrek> overclucker: unmounted 3 mount points
[08:17] <dpetrek> overclucker: still same consumption
[08:17] <cbf> dns client... any ideas or what? :)
[08:18] <cbf> why does one server need a suffix resolve and t'other does not
[08:18] <cbf> using the SAME dns servers
[08:19] <ParadoxEternal> Is the compiler on Natty slower than Lucid?
[08:19] <dpetrek> overclucker: you were right
[08:19] <dpetrek> overclucker: i figured it out
[08:19] <overclucker> dpetrek: heh, there were files in a mount point?
[08:19] <dpetrek> overclucker: there is backup script that puts files on SMB share
[08:20] <dpetrek> but fo some reason it was not mounted
[08:20] <dpetrek> and it kept filling local disk
[08:20] <Tm_T> ParadoxEternal: why would it be? (#ubuntu+1 is better channel for that)
[08:20] <ParadoxEternal> I'm just noticing the same stuff taking more cpu.
[08:20] <ParadoxEternal> On Maverick aswell. I'm quite sure, I tested several times.
[08:21] <cdbs> ParadoxEternal: Natty has GCC 4.5, a major improvement, so maybe because of that
[08:21] <ParadoxEternal> What about maverick?
[08:21] <ParadoxEternal> Coz it's maverick and natty that's slower apparently, than karmic and lucid.
[08:21] <ParadoxEternal> So whatever it is, they share it!
[08:21] <ParadoxEternal> :)
[08:22] <jigynet> cool?
[08:22] <overclucker> dpetrek: whare are the permissions of the mount points? you might want to remove write for the mount points, so files don't end up there when it's unmounted
[08:22] <kauhuk> I need to move a file to /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/ folder. How can I do it?
[08:23] <dpetrek> overclucker: yeah that would be good idea
[08:23] <beer_brouwer> kauhuk: sudo mv <filename> /etc/.../
[08:23] <overclucker> dpetrek: that won't affect a root user putting files there though
[08:23] <jigynet> http://pastebin.com/LsBSN6Ud is this a known bug with unity? should i submit it?
[08:25] <dpetrek> overclucker: yeah the script runs under root
[08:25] <dpetrek> overclucker: i wont complicate anymore
[08:26] <kauhuk> how do i tell where the file is?
[08:27] <cdbs> jigynet: Debug messages such as those are common. Is there some problem because of that?
[08:30] <beer_brouwer> kauhuk: you don't know where the file is that you want to move or what?
[08:30] <nishant> i have toreload my browser few tiimes to see the java applet , ahy so?
[08:30] <nishant> reload the page
[08:31] <dpetrek> overclucker: thanks
[08:31] <hiexpo> http://www.msn.com/      >      on my way 2 Georgia
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> dpetrek:  thers also an autofs service that can auto mount things like that on access.
[08:31] <Dannyd> im using hamachi
[08:31] <kauhuk> pfft
[08:31] <Dannyd> on winw
[08:31] <kauhuk> i just cant get this nokia cs-17 stick working
[08:32] <Dannyd> i am using trying to use hamachi on wine...but im not able to? Need Help please!!
[08:32] <lonejack> Can you help me understand something? In the audio preferences / hardware I have a number of options:
[08:32] <lonejack> analog / sorroud 4.1/5.1/7.1 ... There are at least a dozen. But among all the possibilities I have, only if I choose "stereo analog duplex" the microphone is working.
[08:32] <hiexpo> nice guys finish last
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Dannyd
[08:34] <nishant> Java applets are not unloading untill sometimes I reload the page , Why so ?
[08:35] <cvmostert> Question: How can I tell a program that it is today last week? i e change the date that it is fed?
[08:35] <Wincent_> hello
[08:35] <Dannyd> Join #winehq
[08:35] <kauhuk> i couldnt get office working properly and the nokia internet stick aint working at all
[08:36] <dr0id> so vim is basically an improved version of vi ?
[08:37] <cvmostert> yes vim is just another version of vi
[08:37] <cvmostert> not so hardcore
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> !info vim
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Note the default vim - is actually vim 'light' and is missing some features in the full vim package.
[08:44] <Komok_Nervov> трям все
[08:45] <Komok_Nervov> помогите пожалуйста в поиске пакета
[08:45] <DJones> !ru | Komok_Nervov
[08:46] <hiexpo> good night all hiexpo needs 2 sleep got a flight to Georgia this am
[08:46] <gnewb> Can I put two Ubuntu flavors on one HDD, i.e. Lubuntu and Ubuntu both 10.04?
[08:46] <DJones> gnewb: Yes you can as long as you've got enough enough partitions
[08:46] <gnewb> DJones: Thank you.
[08:46] <elFidel> gnewb: you can even install debian,gentoo,ubuntu etc on the same hd -> its a partition issue
[08:47] <gnewb> elFidel: Yes, Thank you, I am still in that learning curve.
[08:48] <gnewb> I tried to get a BSD and Debian based to dual boot, still working on that.
[08:49] <RubenAlonzo> o/
[08:50] <RubenAlonzo> does anyone if there is a solution yet to hide the Unity side dock?
[08:50] <arejay> How can i fix this
[08:50] <arejay> -(~:$)-> screen
[08:50] <arejay> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[08:50] <arejay> Adding user `ircd' to group `tty' ...
[08:50] <arejay> still didnt fix it
[08:50] <FloodBot2> arejay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <gnewb> RubenAlonzo: I saw that as fixed on the Launchpad and Forums, which version are you running?
[08:52] <TheTinyToon> Hi everyone, any hints on a out-of-the-box working webcam?
[08:54] <RubenAlonzo> 2 Gigs of Crucial DDR2 200 pin, laptop memory should be sufficient for uubuntu?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> RubenAlonzo:  yes.
[08:54] <RubenAlonzo> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> RubenAlonzo:  i dont think unity is gouing to let you hide the side dock. not seen that mentioned in the 11.04 previews yet.
[08:55] <gnewb> oh whoops
[08:55] <dr0id> hello Dr_Willis :)
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Jello dr0id.
[08:55] <MagicJ> I love the PLACES/NETWORK ability to conneft to a remote machine . It works great with the GUI - how do I use it with file names and the command line etc
[08:55] <RubenAlonzo> Dr_Willis: I am hoping it will, i played around with 10.10 netbook remix on my little netbook and loved it but my real estate for screen is at a premium, its only10.1 inches
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> MagicJ:  depends on what sort of remote box you are connecting to.
[08:55] <gnewb> RubenAlanozo, Dr_Willis: Would Lubuntu be an option there?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> gnewb:  lubuntu works very well for me.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> gnewb:  it depends on your needs.
[08:56] <gnewb> True
[08:56] <MagicJ> DR_WIllis - it is my own remote box also running ubunto and  I am connecting via ssh
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> You can install the lubuntu-desktop pacakge on a gnome box and try lubuntu.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> MagicJ:  ssh, scp, sshfs.  - are the tools to check out. It depends on your needs. :)
[08:57] <RubenAlonzo> Dr_Willis: havent seen that one yet, i should read into it for the time being, reason i went with netbook remix is i read it was very stable. and indeed it was a flawless installation with everything working right out of the box.
[08:57] <gnewb> I am using Lubuntu now, on a 512mb desktop box, is skippy and neat.
[08:57] <MagicJ> Dr Willis: I am using ssh to connect - and under the gui it is great - so what is the file path so that I can use it without the gui oce connected
[08:58] <RubenAlonzo> gnewb: what your browse of choice if you dont mind?
[08:58] <RubenAlonzo> browser*
[08:58] <eka> hi all
[08:58] <RubenAlonzo> hi eka
[08:58] <gnewb> RubenAlonzo:> Chrome
[08:58] <RubenAlonzo> thanks
[08:59] <eka> how can I farce so all the files creatd under a directory get the same permissions as the directory?
[08:59] <eka> force
[08:59] <RubenAlonzo> Also, are the terminal commands about the same for Lubuntu as Maverick Meerkat? I.E., sudo apt-get install nameofprogramhere?
[08:59] <gnewb> RuenAlonzo: On #! I am using IceWeasel or Icecat.
[09:00] <RubenAlonzo> gnewb: on a desktop or laptop?
[09:00] <gmcdonald> eka: chmod -R xxx
[09:00] <gnewb> RubenAlonzo:> Yes, it is called LXTerminal, that is about the only difference.
[09:00] <RubenAlonzo> thanks
[09:01] <RubenAlonzo> brb will go check it out
[09:01] <eka> gmcdonald: yea but the files/dir inside are created by a  daemon
[09:01] <eka> gmcdonald: so I want that next time it creates things... they will be in same perms as the dir holding it
[09:02] <gmcdonald> what daemon is it?
[09:02] <eka> gmcdonald: dropbox
[09:03] <gnewb> RubenAlonzo: I am currently on a homebuilt desktop.
[09:03] <TheTinyToon> Hi everyone, any hints on a out-of-the-box working webcam?
[09:04] <gnewb> !hardware | TheTinyToon
[09:04] <Ja23> Hello, does anyone have some advice, I just got ubuntu a little while ago, and would like to change the way it looks, besides the options in appearance, what do people do?
[09:04] <AdvoWork> im trying to install an old version of postgresql(8.2) on ubuntu as a test, its not available doing sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.2 as there is no candidate, any idea what source I would have to add to the sources list to be able to add that version?
[09:04] <gnewb> TheTinyToon:> That link should show you the working and not yet known Hardware dongles.
[09:06] <DJones> TheTinyToon: This should help you looking for a webcam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[09:07] <TheTinyToon> DJones: Thanks, that's the page I was looking for
[09:07] <gnewb> DJones:Thank you, I posted the FULL site, that one looks cleaner.
[09:08] <TheTinyToon> Gnewb: Yeah, I just found all the computers there but not for peripherials.
[09:10] <gnewb> TheTinyToon:> That is why I gave DJones a thumbs up, by working together we find solutions. eventually.
[09:10] <cvmostert> can i tell one of my programs last weeks date?
[09:11] <cvmostert> i want my program to be in trial-mode forever...
[09:12] <llutz> cvmostert:  thats illegal and not supported here. use free stuff, buy stuff or don't use it all
[09:12] <gmcdonald> eka: sorry dont know how that operates, either make sure it runs on umask 002, or create yourself a cronjob that fixes the permissions after ir runs
[09:12] <eka> gmcdonald: I set chmod 2770 <- that did it
[09:12] <gmcdonald> goodo
[09:13] <gnewb> cvmostert: Yeah, what llutz said, and also look for the FSF/GNU equivalent,is Free and Open Source .
[09:13] <eka> gmcdonald: so the group permissions are enforced inside that dir
[09:13] <cvmostert> thanks peeps
[09:14] <cvmostert> if you dont know, just say so... joking.. cheers
[09:15] <gnewb> cvsmostert: I do not know.
[09:15] <gnewb> had to go there.
[09:16] <ilea> people 1 question
[09:16] <gnewb> !ask | ilea
[09:17] <PSiLO23> Hi all, i booted Ubuntu from USB, it works, but when i boot it and choose to install, nothing happens... anyone knows what to do now ?
[09:17] <gnome-terminal> hi
[09:17] <ilea> i instaled the video driver but i still can't select the extra option so that i can play with compiz
[09:17] <ilea> what to do ?
[09:17] <AdvoWork> can i add the sources from hardy so i can add a package that was from that version?
[09:18] <ilea> i still stays on none
[09:18] <Frazer> hi ! what is the smallest Ubuntu dist that can runs? Because Mini Ubuntu need to download all the packages ; I would like to know if a base-Ubuntu dist exists with only minimal packages(shell...) ?
[09:18] <bazhang> AdvoWork, what version are you on now
[09:18] <gnome-terminal> I am trying to change gnome terminal color but it doesnt change. how can I fix this
[09:18] <gnewb> ilea: Have you added Restricted to the sources list?
[09:18] <ilea> i dont understand
[09:19] <AdvoWork> bazhang, 10.04
[09:19] <bazhang> AdvoWork, no
[09:19] <gnewb> PSiL023: Did you want a Persistent USB or a Live Stick?
[09:19] <ilea> i am new and someone from here e-mailed me a step by step instruction on how to install it
[09:19] <AdvoWork> bazhang, why? cant i just add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted to the sources list, install my package from there and so on?
[09:19] <bazhang> gnewb, you mean ubuntu-restricted-extras not restricted repo
[09:20] <bazhang> AdvoWork, what package
[09:20] <nishant> !latest
[09:20] <silvery> Hi. got a question about grub.d. Should it be a problem if 2 files there got same numbers: 20_linux_xen, 20_memtest86+ ? (I'm asking because it is default U*10.10 grub configuration)
[09:20] <extra11> :)
[09:21] <AdvoWork> bazhang, i just want postgresql version 8.2
[09:21] <gnewb> bazhang: Thank you, I learned something new today so it is a good day.
[09:21] <bazhang> AdvoWork, why that version in particular
[09:21] <gnome-terminal> Where are the gnome terminal settings saved?
[09:21] <Softdroid> Anyone who can an easy way to replace pulse audio with alsa or make alsa the default driver?
[09:21] <AdvoWork> bazhang, it has a feature available i need to use to do a fix, later versions have this feature also, but 8.2 is the only one i can restore to without fixing said issue lol
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> ilea:  tell the channel what your Video chipset is.
[09:22] <ilea> via chrome 9
[09:22] <red2kic> silvery: "The order the files are run determines the menu order in grub.cfg.
[09:22] <bazhang> AdvoWork, regressing repos and packages will only bring grief and breakage.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Softdroid:  pulse audio uses alsa. so its allready there.   I dont reccomend trying to remove pulse.
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> ilea:  thats one of the worst supported video chipsets out there for linux.
[09:23] <bazhang> ilea, that may not support compiz, ask in #compiz to be sure
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> ilea:  I dont know if  you even had the drivers working right - if compiz would work.
[09:23] <Frazer> hi ! what is the smallest Ubuntu dist that can runs? Because Mini Ubuntu need to download all the packages ; I would like to know if a base-Ubuntu dist exists with only minimal packages(shell...) ?
[09:23] <Softdroid> Dr_Willis: Thanks for your reply. but I use Audigy2 and I can't use all the futures with it
[09:23] <AdvoWork> bazhang, oh, any suggestions how can i get that package then? ive got the tar.gz but cant seem to install
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Softdroid:  check the forums for tips/tricks.  I cant even recall any features of my AUdigy2 that i missed. :)
[09:24] <gnewb> !backup | all the hackers and people that are messing with the kernel
[09:24] <amin> who could I use virtual mouse?
[09:24] <amin> who could I use virtual mouse?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> FrankLv:  you want just a console install?   or a light desktop?
[09:24] <ilea> i noticed it dosnt suport because it dosnt have good video acceleration and things but at least i have the 1600 resolution and now my desktop looks grea
[09:24] <ilea> great*
[09:24] <bazhang> amin, dont repeat
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ilea:  in the future i would avoid stuff from that company. :)
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> ilea:  you are lucky you got the proper res.
[09:25] <gnewb> very lucky
[09:25] <red2kic> Lucky? It's a miracle!
[09:25] <silvery> red2kic : gonna see it then, thanks
[09:25] <amin> Excuse me again I do not have mouse I need to use virtual mouse does ubuntu have something like that?
[09:25] <Huck> dragging a wave file from a cd to a folder results in a larger file than ripping to wave via sound juicer, does     juicer add compression to a wave file ?
[09:25] <red2kic> silvery: It's normal for files to have numbers in the beginning of the filenames.
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> amin:  thers somthing like that using the numpad. but ive never used it.
[09:26] <red2kic> silvery: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[09:26] <amin> Dr_Willis: nice to have you here hi   how could I active it?
[09:27] <ilea> i bought the Pc with windows on it and had that display driver
[09:27] <ilea> i cant even play prince ow persia 1 and 2 properly
[09:27] <silvery> red2kic : yeah, but I wondered what happens when files got SAME numbers...
[09:27] <red2kic> silvery: That's still fine.
[09:28] <ilea> when i instaled linux i had the resolution some times 800x... and other times 1024x....
[09:28] <Tito0096> Does anyone know how to run plop from grub2? I cant get it to work
[09:28] <red2kic> silvery: However, I see 20_memtest86+ -- Not sure about that other file, but if it got 20_... It'll be executed.
[09:28] <IZI-Johan> amin: Go to System > Preferences > Keyboard > Mouse Keys
[09:28] <red2kic> silvery: It's mostly a script calling bunch of scripts as they appear -- then all output went to grub.cfg
[09:29] <silvery> red2kic : at the same time? (sorry it's a joke)
[09:29] <Tito0096> I keep getting a file not found error even though i have this correct and the file is in /boot - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2
[09:30] <IZI-Johan> !voice
[09:30] <red2kic> silvery: No. One file after one. As they appear in the /etc/grub.d/
[09:31] <red2kic> silvery: "ls -al /etc/grub.d/"
[09:31] <red2kic> silvery: That's how the scripts will be run, one after one. One after one.
[09:31] <gnome-terminal> thanks for ignoring
[09:31] <PSiLO23> I try to install ubuntu from usb but it doesnt work, it keeps loading after the first screen i click next
[09:31] <PSiLO23> and nothing happens
[09:31] <PSiLO23> :(
[09:31] <verywiseman> when i boot my system , it is required to make file system repair, but when i make fsck ,this message appear "this program can't start until you start the dbus " "system service aborting", where is problem?
[09:31] <Huck> does sound juicer add compression to wave files it extracts ? Files dragged from the disc are always larger.
[09:31] <Tito0096> red2kic do you know what i can do with my issue?
[09:32] <gnome-terminal> how do I reset gnome-terminal preferences
[09:32] <Tito0096> red2kic - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2 ,I keep getting a file not found error even though i have this correct and the file is in /boot
[09:32] <silvery> red2kic : do you mean in ascending order?
[09:33] <gnome-terminal> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
[09:33] <red2kic> silvery: It's in the grub link I gave you earlier.
[09:33] <red2kic> silvery: "The order of the entries in the grub menu is based on the order of the file names. File named with a starting numeral are run before those beginning with a letter. The order the files are run determines the menu order in grub.cfg.
[09:33] <red2kic> Custom entries can be added to the "40_custom" file or in a newly created file. "
[09:33] <red2kic> Whoops.
[09:33] <FloodBot2> red2kic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <red2kic> Tito0096: Paste the grub.cfg + "ls -al /boot"
[09:35] <silvery> red2kic : ok, sorry for my stupidness, but I found out that grub.cfg contains only comments for 20_linux_xen (and the file is not empty for sure)
[09:35] <Tito0096> red2kic - http://paste.ubuntu.com/581513/
[09:36] <silvery> 20_linux_xen got 149 lines of code none of wich is in grub.cfg
[09:36] <Tito0096> Grub config - http://paste.ubuntu.com/581514/
[09:36] <red2kic> Tito0096: Why is there /boot/boot?
[09:36] <Frazer> hi ! what is the smallest Ubuntu dist that can runs? Because Mini Ubuntu need to download all the packages ; I would like to know if a base-Ubuntu dist exists with only minimal packages(shell...) ?
[09:36] <Tito0096> i am on linux mint
[09:37] <Tito0096> grub/grub has a splash screen i think
[09:37] <red2kic> Tito0096: This is Ubuntu channel. FYI.
[09:37] <gnewb> !minimal | Frazer
[09:37] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Tito0096
[09:37] <Frazer> yep gnewb but it downloads from web
[09:37] <Tito0096> Yes I know that
[09:37] <Tito0096> but since they are similar
[09:37] <bazhang> Tito0096, so mint is not supported here
[09:38] <gnewb> Frazer: Oh, offline install?
[09:38] <Frazer> yes
[09:38] <Tito0096> ive had many problems solved by not mentioning i had linux mint -_-
[09:38] <red2kic> Tito0096: Mac OSX are based on FreeBSD -- Does not make it the same thing. :P
[09:38] <Tito0096> lol
[09:38] <Frazer> Only the kernel and the shell and I would be ok !
[09:38] <bazhang> Tito0096, bad luck then. install Ubuntu and come back
[09:38] <Frazer> And I would like to know if such an iso exists
[09:38] <Tito0096> So you are just going to stop. . .and not even try to help?
[09:38] <Tito0096> since this is a grub problem
[09:39] <bazhang> Frazer, you'd not need an iso for that
[09:39] <gnewb> Frazer: Yes they do.
[09:39] <red2kic> Tito0096: I really would like to suggest you to try #grub channel.
[09:39] <bazhang> Tito0096, correct. go to mintsupport
[09:39] <Tito0096> mint support is deserted
[09:39] <Tito0096> no one is online
[09:39] <Tito0096> thus my presence here
[09:39] <bazhang> Tito0096, all the more reason to never use it
[09:39] <Frazer> gnewb: ?
[09:39] <Frazer> bazhang: u mean LFS i suppose?
[09:40] <Tito0096> bazhang, its pretty nice, this is the only quirk i have run into so far. .
[09:40] <gnewb> Frazer: Looking it up now....
[09:40] <bazhang> Frazer, no, but why not just remaster the mini or similar to what you want?
[09:41] <red2kic> Frazer: Use Mini.iso -- Don't go naive and install ubuntu-desktop. Install what you explicity want.
[09:41] <bazhang> Frazer, additionally you could choose one the base install packages and go that way
[09:41] <fenghuo> hello
[09:41] <Tito0096> grub is empty. . .
[09:41] <gnewb> Frazer:> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[09:41] <Tito0096> well
[09:41] <Tito0096> most are afk
[09:41] <Frazer> My actual idea is to remaster actual ubuntu-desktop, remove what I want and repack the iso
[09:42] <llutz> !remaster | Frazer
[09:42] <bazhang> Frazer, thats more work than a base install, but sure its doable
[09:42] <Tito0096> red2kic please can you help?
[09:42] <silvery> I got 2 files with same numbers in grub.d: 20_memtest86+ and 20_linux_xen. Figured out that grub.cfg contains code only from 20_memtest86+ and nothing from 20_linux_xen, could this be because they have same numbers?
[09:43] <Tito0096> mint and ubuntu are really similar. and not in the sense of what they are based off of, like your argument with OSX being based off of FreeBSD
[09:43] <gnewb> Frazer:> That link I posted is what is called a Barebones install.
[09:43] <Cork> flash plays super fast in browsers for em (chrome, firefox and opera), tried to reinstall flash, totem, the browsers but can't find a solution
[09:43] <Frazer> hm Ok I take a look
[09:43] <Cork> anyone have an idea?
[09:43] <red2kic> Tito0096: Okay. What is in  /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[09:43] <Cork> em==ex
[09:44] <Tito0096> Grub config - http://paste.ubuntu.com/581514/
[09:44] <red2kic> Tito0096: Because we don't really know what Linux Mint did.
[09:44] <Tito0096> well i modified the grub.cfg to add the file
[09:44] <Tito0096> and the option in grub2
[09:44] <Tito0096> as where the instructions on the plop website
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> You normally DONT edit grub.cfg by hand. You edit the /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/* files.
[09:45] <Tito0096> Ah
[09:45] <Tito0096> that makes much much more sense. .
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> See the grub2 docs/wiki/forums for details
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[09:45] <Tito0096> time to restore the old grub backup
[09:45] <Tito0096> grub.cfg
[09:45] <red2kic> Heh. Tito0096 ignored the message header in the file.
[09:45] <gnewb> Dr_Willis: Is that like conky.rc?
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> if you rerun update-grub - the grub.cfg gets regeernated.
[09:45] <Tito0096> ahhh
[09:45] <Tito0096> okay
[09:45] <ethanol> I keep getting Mar 17 10:44:56 ubuntu kernel: [ 7491.479367] multiqueue0:src[7128]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f5be737de4c sp 00007f5bde2885e0 error 6 in liborc-0.4.so.0.0.0[7f5be7367000+56000] whenever I try to play a .m4a podcast in rhythmbox
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> gnewb:  what does conky have to do wth grub? :)
[09:45] <Tito0096> I saw the header and i was like opps lol
[09:46] <ethanol> is there any coded/library I need to install to enable .m4a playback?
[09:46] <Tito0096> red2kic Dr_Willis - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2 -this is what I am trying to do
[09:46] <gnewb> Dr_Willis: I just asked because I did not know, on some systems dmenu,conky and such can edit that stuff.
[09:47] <johan^izi> amin: Go to System > Preferences > Keyboard > Mouse Keys
[09:47] <vpark> which is the best antivirus for Ubuntu?
[09:47] <amin> THANKS WORKED  :)
[09:47] <red2kic> !antivirus | vpark
[09:48] <johan^izi> ;)
[09:48] <gnewb> !best | vpark
[09:48] <red2kic> Tito0096: set root='(hd0,1)'
[09:48] <Tito0096> yeah i am looking over the wiki now
[09:49] <Tito0096> and i saw that entry before
[09:49] <red2kic> Tito0096: I was pointing out the quotes.
[09:49] <Tito0096> yep i did that
[09:49] <Tito0096> oh wait
[09:49] <Tito0096> i remember i took it off because i was trying to see if that made a difference lol
[09:49] <vpark>  ubottu:there may be document virus! aren't they?
[09:49] <ethanol> is there any coded/library I need to install to enable .m4a playback?
[09:50] <davzie> Bollocks. If I accidently hit enter when installing Ubuntu Server on the screen that lets me select services to install, is there any way I can get back to that screen?
[09:50] <red2kic> davzie: sudo tasksel, I think.
[09:50] <gnewb> ethanol: Is that a restricted package or format?
[09:50] <davzie> red2kic, champion, thanks :)
[09:51] <ethanol> gnewb: it's a podcast. rhythmbox keeps crashing when I try to play it.
[09:51] <vpark> there may be document viruses! aren't they? Shouldn't I be careful about them?
[09:51] <johan^izi> ethanol: You need to enable Multiverse and install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse.
[09:51] <gnewb> ethanol: Ok, have you apt-get update and upgrade?
[09:51] <ethanol> gnewb: basically what I did is, added this podcast url to rhythmbox: http://picklemonkey.net/flipper/convert.php?feed=http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/drum-bassarena-podcast/id110623324
[09:52] <ethanol> gnewb: yes, every day.
[09:52] <ethanol> johan^izi: I have it
[09:52] <fisix> hey, does anybody know how to rearrange the icons between and within the indicator applet and notification area?
[09:52] <Tito0096> red2kic - so i change the 40_custom file by adding that entry?
[09:52] <ethanol> johan^izi: actually I think I have 0.10
[09:52] <red2kic> vpark: If you're behind a router (firewall), you should be fine. However, I believe the viruses are mostly targetting for the servers.
[09:53] <maxillusionist> hi ilea
[09:53] <zvacet> vpark:  I don't thing there is linux virus in wild
[09:54] <red2kic> Tito0096: What is Plop? Do you need it? Paste the latest grub.cfg + "ls -al /boot"
[09:54] <Tito0096> red2kic - edit it like this correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/581520/
[09:54] <zvacet> vpark:  you can read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[09:55] <maxillusionist> zvacet it is wrong dude there are virus so fatal that you can't even imagine
[09:55] <Tito0096> red2kic - plop is a boot manager that lets you boot from usb on legacy devices
[09:55] <Tito0096> it can run along side everything which is good
[09:55] <zvacet> maxillusionist: can you point me to that
[09:55] <Tito0096> red2kic - atm i have a pc that cant boot from usb
[09:55] <Tito0096> so i need this lol
[09:55] <johan^izi> ethanol: hmm, do you have faad?
[09:55] <ethanol> johan^izi: http://pastebin.com/Pb7i47Ck
[09:56] <ethanol> johan^izi: faad?
[09:56] <ethanol> will search for that
[09:56] <Kills> why is ubuntu doesnt let me to play any of my audio players until a tab with a video  is no turned off?
[09:56] <red2kic> Tito0096: "file /boot/plpbt.bin"
[09:56] <gnewb> ethanol: There is also the Songbird thing:> http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/playing_m4a_files_on_ubuntu
[09:56] <red2kic> Tito0096: See if it's there. :)
[09:56] <ethanol> johan^izi: I have libfaad2 ?
[09:57] <Tito0096> file /boot/plpbt.bin
[09:57] <Tito0096> /boot/plpbt.bin: Linux kernel x86 boot executable zImage, version \353HdrS\006, RW-rootFS,
[09:57] <Tito0096> It is there
[09:57] <Tito0096> i made sure of it since the beginning
[09:57] <johan^izi> ethanol: faad - freeware Advanced Audio Decoder player :)
[09:57] <red2kic> Tito0096: Did you select Plop when it's booting up or it's simply not there? What was the response?
[09:57] <johan^izi> ethanol: and libfaad2
[09:57] <Tito0096> it always said "file not found"
[09:57] <ethanol> johan^izi: have both the shared and mp4 one
[09:57] <Tito0096> even though it was there and selectable
[09:58] <ethanol> johan^izi: don't have the command line tool though. would rhythmbox need it?
[09:58] <red2kic> Tito0096: Dunno. If everything worked, I don't know what to look for.
[09:58] <red2kic> Tito0096: (If everything are in places)
[09:58] <johan^izi> ethanol: no, i don't think so
[09:58] <cosmo_> I cant figure out what I have set wrong, the windows machines on my home network can see me and the folders I shared but when they try to access them they get the message "Not accessible Might not have permission"
[09:58] <Kills> this is just retarded why would some1 think that it would be good to shut down all media players till your on  a tab with video???
[09:59] <gnewb> I am going sailing now, y'all have fun and I thank you kindly.
[09:59] <Tito0096> red2kic - http://paste.ubuntu.com/581522/ - Grub.cfg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/581523/ - ls -al /boot
[09:59] <johan^izi> ethanol: try starting rythmbox from the command line and see what errors it prints when you try to play the m4a
[10:00] <alferio> ciao
[10:00] <red2kic> Tito0096: Seem fine -- What is in /boot/boot/
[10:00] <Tito0096> a folder with grub
[10:00] <Tito0096> and in that folder is a splash image
[10:00] <Kills> Any1 knows how make my media players play whenever I push play???
[10:01] <ethanol> (rhythmbox:7519): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed \ Segmentation fault
[10:01] <Tito0096> and thats it, i think that was from when i was fixing grub
[10:01] <ethanol> Mar 17 11:00:39 ubuntu kernel: [ 8432.214431] multiqueue0:src[7529]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fdaccf15e4c sp 00007fdac99a55e0 error 6 in liborc-0.4.so.0.0.0[7fdacceff000+56000]
[10:01] <Tito0096> when windows took over
[10:01] <Tito0096> yeah i am going to delete it
[10:01] <red2kic> Tito0096: I'm out of ideas. "ls -al /boot/boot/"
[10:02] <johan^izi> ethanol: have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592270
[10:02] <Tito0096> red2kic - that folder was made when i was reinstalling grub when windows took over
[10:02] <Tito0096> red2kic - i made a couple mistakes but now it works
[10:02] <ethanol> johan^izi: it's not installed
[10:02] <Tito0096> red2kic - so i am going to delete it to avoid confusion since the proper location has everything in there
[10:03] <johan^izi> ethanol: damn..
[10:03] <red2kic> Tito0096: Okay. I have no more solutions. Sorry.
[10:03] <Tito0096> red2kic -
[10:03] <Tito0096> ls -al '/boot/boot'
[10:03] <Tito0096> total 3
[10:03] <Tito0096> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 2010-10-10 07:25 .
[10:03] <Tito0096> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 1024 2011-03-16 20:20 ..
[10:03] <Tito0096> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 2010-10-15 01:37 grub
[10:03] <FloodBot2> Tito0096: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:04] <cosmo_> I cant figure out what I have set wrong, the windows machines on my home network can see me and the folders I shared but when they try to access them they get the message "Not accessible Might not have permission"
[10:04] <johan^izi> ethanol: i think thats it for me :) You could try xmms or converting your files. but thats not really a solution imo. Maybe someone else here can help you?
[10:06] <ethanol> johan^izi: what player do you use?
[10:07] <HackeMate> hello, someone experienced with kerrighed?
[10:07] <khaard> anyone using ubuntu 10.04 server edition on ps3 console?
[10:07] <ethanol> johan^izi: if possible, could you try and check if you can play one of their files? (url: http://hwcdn.net/u5b4u5u8/cds/153.m4a )
[10:08] <ethanol> it plays fine for me in totem I just noticed
[10:08] <ethanol> :(
[10:08] <HackeMate> http://pastebin.com/5sEadEBT
[10:08] <ethanol> (which it opens in by default if I download a .m4a directly)
[10:08] <HackeMate> i were following this manual http://www.kerrighed.org/docs/releases/3.0/INSTALL
[10:08] <ethanol> so rhythmbox just doesn't like podcasts I guess. maybe cause it has a video stream? (even if it is just a static image)
[10:12] <ethanol> could anyone recommend a good podcast player?
[10:14] <jpds> ethanol: banshee.
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> !info miro
[10:14] <Tito0096> red2kic - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2 I am so stumped :(, just read the tutorial and tell me how you would start this
[10:14] <ethanol> jpds: will have a look, thanks
[10:14] <newbie101> hi all; What's the best way of connecting to the internet on ubuntu 10.04 through my nokia N95
[10:15] <loltoad> hey, any tips on profiling my boot up or system in general to speed things up?
[10:15] <elFidel> loltoad: bootchart might help understanding the boot-part
[10:15] <Boothk> Is this chat for support questions, or Ubuntu chat in general?
[10:16] <elFidel> Boothk: thats afaik a user2user help channel
[10:16] <ethanol> jpds: nope, banshee also crashes on these .m4a podcast files :<
[10:16] <Boothk> awesome. I'm somewhat new to bourne scripting and it hates me :V
[10:16] <elFidel> Boothk: so support -> see topic
[10:16] <loltoad> elFidel, ive ran bootchart before, but i wasn't sure what to do with the information, it was such a big file
[10:16] <zvacet> Boothk: support
[10:16] <newbie101> hi all; What's the best way of connecting to the internet on ubuntu 10.04 through my nokia N95?
[10:16] <elFidel> loltoad: i was talking about the image bootchart can generate
[10:17] <elFidel> and in case that part is not helpful - you should most likely not mess around with the idea of optimizing your boot-time
[10:17] <loltoad> elFidel, yea, even on that it was a massive image, i couldn't even visually pick out anythin gof value... though to be fair i don't quite know what to look for
[10:19] <Kills> why when i try to make a video fullscreen it ussually doesnt work?
[10:19] <elFidel> Kills: tried different players & video formats?
[10:20] <Kills> Im talking about videos from websites
[10:20] <elFidel> somehow your question right now isnt THAT DETAILED
[10:20] <elFidel> ah great
[10:20] <newbie101> What's the best way of connecting to the internet on ubuntu 10.04 through a mobile phone?
[10:21] <newbie101> i.e. nokia N95
[10:21] <Boothk> got this odd problem going on with iwconfig. I can set up wireless settings for a machine via .sh script, and configure the proxy so it'll go through. But no matter how hard i try, the machine refuses to pick up an IP address from DHCP server unless I use network-manager
[10:21] <jatt> it works with the n900
[10:21] <Kills> It very easy you play a youtube video froma website dif then youtube or someother flash video and whenyou try to go fullscreen the video keeps playing but you dont see nothing
[10:21] <jatt> you need to have the usb networking module in your kernel or as module I think ubuntu kernels already have it
[10:21] <jatt> then you need some iptables rules on the phone
[10:22] <jatt> it works fine
[10:22] <newbie101> is there a tutorial some here
[10:23] <juk> newbie101: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[10:24] <Kills> I get the feeling that ubuntu has a lot more bugs now at 10.10 than it had with 9.10
[10:25] <Boothk> Does anyone know why terminal might fail to pick up DHCP?
[10:26] <elFidel> Kills: video & flash is working great here - 10.10 too
[10:26] <Kills> well flash , audio quality and some other stuff aint exactly working great here
[10:27] <elFidel> Kills: checked if you got latest flash?
[10:27] <elFidel> some users tend to use flash ppa to get specific versions (afaik)
[10:27] <Kills> and srsly what the hell is with not letting media players play whenyou have a website tab with video opened
[10:27] <mads> HI all: How do i check what version and RC number of the kernel i have installed. "cat /proc/version" Returns: Linux version 2.6.38-6-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-5ubuntu1) ) #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 8 14:09:10 UTC 2011
[10:28] <mads> related to a bug test i need RC-8
[10:28] <ethanol> someone explain to me why totem can play my downloaded podcast files just fine (.m4a), but banshee _and_ rhythmbox both crash instantly when attempting playback? also, how coul I debug the cause of the crash?
[10:30] <ethanol> I take it back, they crash on everything now. even .mp3 :<
[10:30] <johan^izi> ethanol: Sure, one sec
[10:30] <ethanol> maybe I should remove some gstream packages
[10:30] <Kills> and i doesnt allow me to execute nothing and does not allow to change that in options
[10:31] <Kills> how to change my permissions so i could execute files with wine?
[10:32] <overclucker> chmod +x file
[10:32] <java_> hello
[10:32] <overclucker> but then, if you execute them directly with wine, you don't need to do that
[10:32] <zvacet> 1hi| java_
[10:32] <jokersmile> when i tried downloading 10.10 netbook edition it gave me desktop edition. why?
[10:32] <perl> just run them with wine
[10:32] <zvacet> !hi | java_
[10:33] <Boothk> isn't UNR 10.10 broken atm?
[10:33] <elFidel> jokersmile: netbook edition is dead afaik
[10:33]  * Boothk is using UNR 9.10
[10:33] <perl> there are other places to download unr 10.10
[10:33] <Kills> how to get permissions to execute files with wine is and easy question right?
[10:33] <jokersmile> what dose afaik mean
[10:33] <johan^izi> ethanol: I can play your link in Rythmbox, Banshee, VLC and Totem..
[10:33] <java_> Kills: chmod +x file
[10:33] <Boothk> akaik = as far as i know
[10:34] <java_> Kills: or right-click the file and mark as executable
[10:34] <jokersmile> oh
[10:34] <Kills> I have no idea what that means
[10:34] <almoxarife> Kills: you use what to look at files?
[10:34] <ethanol> johan^izi: it must be some conflict in my installed libraries. I can also play it fine in totem. but all other apps crash
[10:34] <Kills> yeah trying to do that aint workin
[10:34] <Kills> doesnt let me
[10:34] <Boothk> Kills, "chmod +x <file>" is a terminal command. Change "mode", add execute permission, to file
[10:35] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[10:35] <Boothk> if you need to, use sudo chmod +x <file>. sudo gives you root power (use responsibly)
[10:35] <overclucker> +x doesn't matter if he's trying to run them off an ntfs partition
[10:35] <Arabus> Good morning
[10:35] <java_> hi
[10:36] <monaDeveloper> I have dell xps m1530 but after a while using ubuntu I noticed that the machine is overheated
[10:36] <ethanol> johan^izi: I have no idea how to figure out which gstreamer libs I should install and which not (and which non-gstreamer ones)
[10:36] <Boothk> So.. nobody really knows about DHCP via terminal?
[10:36] <ethanol> johan^izi: but I can't even play mp3 files anymore in banshee and rhythmbox now :\
[10:36] <almoxarife> nautilus can change permissions, assuming the plugin is installed, unless you just love terminal
[10:36] <Kills> Boothk,  didint work
[10:36] <HackeMate> hello, i want to create a cluster with my old computers at home, kerrighed is a good project but just support 64bits
[10:36] <HackeMate> is there another project?
[10:36] <ethanol> johan^izi: totem still works fine though.. must use something else
[10:37] <java_> I'm having an issue with java... I can run a .jar using GUI but if I try to run it from terminal using "java -jar file.jar" it does not open. Help!
[10:37] <monaDeveloper> when I try to run a flash thing or try to use something like virtualbox I find my machines so overheated
[10:37] <johan^izi> ethanol: here is my config: http://pastebin.com/vzSrhxBy
[10:37] <monaDeveloper> sometimes reaches over 90
[10:37] <overclucker> Kills: just run: wine program.exe
[10:37] <monaDeveloper> and simply the machine turns off
[10:37] <jokersmile> what netbook version do people in here recomend. I already head a 9.10 but is I want to shoot for more recent because I figure that it is better.
[10:38] <Boothk> 9.10 is the most recent stable release as far as i know
[10:38] <almoxarife> java_: you are not in the directory where the jar is located?
[10:38] <monaDeveloper> that didn't happen before
[10:38] <java_> almoxarife: I am
[10:38] <almoxarife> java_: odd
[10:38] <java_> almoxarife: I will paste the output
[10:38] <almoxarife> java_: ok
[10:38] <jokersmile> ok i'll go for that.
[10:38] <Tito0096> Can someone help me out with this? - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2 - I need help going about with that section of the wiki
[10:38] <Arabus> I have a small problem regarding Ubuntu 10.04 - Some of our users are not able to log in successfully. When they type in username and password in the login prompt of gdm it turns black as if to load the desktop and then returns to the login prompt. Weird thing is, this only happens to some users not all of them.
[10:38] <Arabus> I have already tried looking into the logfiles but found no error message I could connect to this. also removing .gnome and .gnome2 folders from the home directory did not help either. Someone has a clue why this happens or where I could read more on that? I'd even be grateful about a pointer where I can increase the debug output of gdm.
[10:38] <monaDeveloper> any idea what should I do
[10:39] <java_> aloril: Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException
[10:39] <java_> almoxarife: Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException
[10:39] <Kills> doesnt let me
[10:39] <zvacet> Boothk: 10.10 is last see http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[10:39] <juk> monaDeveloper: using cooler pad doesnt help?
[10:40] <elFidel> Arabus: does that behaviour change if those users select another window-manager in gdm?
[10:40] <Boothk> zvacet: yes, but is it stable? I tried using it before and it didn't want to install
[10:40] <elFidel> i had that in 11.04 as well
[10:40] <Kills> this ubuntu aint anywhere even close to what you call a smooth expierence
[10:40] <hwnd> is there a patch or fix for xchat for unr 10.10, some reason i cant send or receive dcc
[10:40] <monaDeveloper> juk: I didn't try but this is a new thing
[10:40] <Arabus> elFidel: they are able to log in with openbox, but not with kde or gnome
[10:40] <Tito0096> Can someone help me out with this? - http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html#rungrub2 - I need help going about with that section of the wiki
[10:40] <cosmo_> I cant figure out what I have set wrong, the windows machines on my home network can see me and the folders I shared but when they try to access them they get the message "Not accessible Might not have permission"
[10:41] <elFidel> Arabus: hehe - sounds somehow known
[10:41] <ethanol> johan^izi: mp3 playback is working again. gonne check out podcasts now :x
[10:41] <fisix> can somebody go over to stackoverflow and tell them to unban me >___>, i've been trying to configure my auto-login favourites and signed in/out a bunch of times
[10:41] <Arabus> elFidel: I also have tried compelte reinstalls on different systems - to no avail
[10:41] <ethanol> johan^izi: meh still crashes. but loading the podcast rss feed in totem works, so I'll use that
[10:41] <Arabus> *complete
[10:41] <almoxarife> java_: the command is exact in terminal as it is in gui?
[10:42] <zvacet> Boothk:  soon you wil have to upgrade to 10.4 see if that version is stable
[10:42] <johan^izi> ethanol: meh, too bad, but at least you can listen to your dnb pods now ;)
[10:42] <elFidel> Arabus: always using the same install-source?
[10:42] <ethanol> johan^izi: yarrr :)
[10:43] <Arabus> elFidel: well I have been using the same repositories, installation of the machines is only a very basic ubuntu and then everything else gets installed via apt-get
[10:43] <elFidel> Arabus: k
[10:44] <juk> !grub2 | Tito0096
[10:44] <Tito0096> juk I have looked but my problem is specific
[10:45] <ethanol> is there a ubuntu dev channel for players like banshee/rhythmbox where I could go to perhaps debug the crashes these .m4a files are causing?
[10:45] <samueldaniel7> hello guys
[10:45] <Boothk> Any takers for figuring out why DHCP won't pick up in terminal?
[10:45] <samueldaniel7> this is fucking cool
[10:45] <samueldaniel7> any hardcore hackers here
[10:46] <DJones> !hacking | samueldaniel7
[10:46] <juk> Tito0096: mention it, may be you get lucky and someone helps
[10:46] <Arabus> elFidel: If I could increase the debug output of gdm maybe I could figure out what is wrong - currently I only get an omnious error message that also appears when a successful login happens. So this seems unrelated