[10:54] <prajna> I can never get oidentd to work right, heh
[10:54] <VSpike> Flannel: just moving the mbr from one disk to another shouldn't require change to the menu.lst should it?
[10:54] <cerebrate> tell me, LordyFlashy, does your joystick work?
[10:55] <magnetron> nitricacid: "lspci" in a terminal will often display such info
[10:55] <erUSUL> nitricacid: lspci | grep -i vga
[10:55] <LordyFlashy> I'll test it
[10:55] <Flannel> VSpike: no, stage1 just gets you to stage2, from there, it doesn't care where stage1 came from.
[10:55] <nitricacid> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41.8 [GeForce Go 6800] (rev a2)
[10:55] <nitricacid> is it better to get it from repos?
[10:55] <cjsz1> where to find win32 codec to ubuntu hardy ??
[10:55] <VSpike> Flannel: when I end up in the grub terminal, what useful stuff can I try?
[10:56] <nitricacid> or from the nvidia site
[10:56] <pucko->  /quit
[10:56] <magnetron> nitricacid: always get the driver using System > admnistration > hardware drivers
[10:56] <Flannel> VSpike: If you end up at a grub terminal, your problem is you're not properly finding /boot
[10:56] <prajna> can someone point me to a good tutorial for setting up oidend?
[10:56] <robg_> cjsz1: medibuntu.org mirror
[10:57] <LordyFlashy> the buttons are working... so far so good
[10:57] <nitricacid> magnetron: your the man
[10:57] <magnetron> nitricacid: you're welcome
[10:57] <cerebrate> LordyFlashy: make sure you configure your up/down left/right too
[10:57] <nitricacid> brb restart i have another question tho
[10:57] <VSpike> Flannel: when I do the grub-install line above, how does the mbr know where /boot is?
[10:57] <socr> I have Heron on an USB stick, to install from. Can I add some script to the stick, that will run after installation, automatically ? I want to do some adjustments, like remove packages etc,
[10:57] <cjsz1> thanks robg_
[10:58] <LordyFlashy> yeah it seems to be a problem.. the joystick configuration program struggled with the d-pad too
[10:58] <cerebrate> dang.
[10:58] <nitricacid> magnetron: hey i have another question while this installs. I have an openssh server on another linux machine. How do i connect to that computer's cli?
[10:59] <cerebrate> well, at least you know how to install a 32 bit program now, LordyFlashy
[10:59] <Mat1> hi, just looking for someone who might be able to help me out with a usb/permissions problem since upgrading to 8.04
[10:59] <LordyFlashy> yeah
[10:59] <adam7> nitricacid: ssh that-computer-ip
[10:59] <Yachaziel> !anyone MAt1
[10:59] <LordyFlashy> how did you find out the dependancies?
[10:59] <cerebrate> just download the .deb, and use the --force-architecture
[10:59] <Yachaziel> !anyone | mat1
[10:59] <magnetron> nitricacid: use the ssh command. "ssh username@ip-adress-of-server"
[10:59] <kenshin> socr, how did you get Heron on a USB stick?
[10:59] <cerebrate> LordyFlashy: those dependencies are actually 32 bit libraries.  They're for running any 32 bit program in 64 bit ubuntu.  I originally found them while attempting to install skype.
[11:00] <LordyFlashy> I have other joysticks anyhow, just have to get them and hook them up
[11:00] <Flannel> VSpike: Do you have a separate partition for /boot? or is it just inside your /?
[11:00] <LordyFlashy> ahh so now they're in, I dont have to mess with that?
[11:00] <kenshin> socr, i tried but my computer just hanged
[11:00] <VSpike> Flannel: separate partition
[11:00] <cerebrate> mess with what?
[11:00] <kenshin> I need to put ubuntu on my usb stick
[11:01] <kenshin> *while being on a windows machine.
[11:01] <HiTo> Hellp
[11:01] <HiTo> Hellp
[11:01] <cerebrate> kenshin: google: ubuntu usb flash drive
[11:01] <Mat1> recently installed hardy, ever since my usb devices are not automounting. some of them appear to be in the computer menu, but when you try to open them it says "you do not have permission to mount this drive"
[11:01] <HiTo> hello.... :o
[11:01] <LordyFlashy> well dependencies will resolve themselves?
[11:01] <Flannel> VSpike: and we're just trying to fix stage1, right?  once we get to stage 2, we're good?
[11:01] <Yachaziel> Mat1: Sudo mount
[11:01] <Mat1> yeh....but thats a temporary fix
[11:02] <VSpike> Flannel: afaik
[11:02] <cerebrate> LordyFlashy: dpkg usually resolves dependencies automagically like synaptic.  The ia32-libs just allows you to use --force-architecture
[11:02] <LordyFlashy> cool
[11:02] <LordyFlashy> thanks :D
[11:02] <Mat1> there appears to be some sort of permission problem, alot of admin/management settings are blanked out
[11:02] <nitricacid> magnetron: once again your the man
[11:02] <Mat1> i cannot seem to alter them as well
[11:02] <cerebrate> bedtime.  I am off now.
[11:03] <Yachaziel> Mat1: Huh, that's odd.
[11:03] <Mat1> yep....problems started as soon as i upgraded to hardy
[11:03] <Mat1> really wierd
[11:03] <Mat1> problem*
[11:03] <Mat1> otherwise its awesome
[11:03] <FloodBot1> Mat1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <Mat1> ooooops.....looks like i have a bit to learn!
[11:04] <Flannel> VSpike: I've always just done sudo grub, then installed it that way.  First method on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-7e18706bb1b3e5c3e4d3d8699471ec0e7b4023c4
[11:05] <tdawgedogg> hey can someone help me set up sql server with amarok?
[11:05] <VSpike> Flannel: thanks.. will try it!
[11:05] <Mat1> so.....is there any way to check user permissions
[11:05] <robinw> hello guys, i need to help a bit - I would like to have a gmail notifier for mutt. does anybody know about it???
[11:06] <HiTo> Anybody knows why I have problem when trying to download a codec with codec ? It tells me "E:impossible to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 ressource temporarly unavailable)
[11:06] <robg_> robinw: I have seen gmail notifiers in Add/Remove but have not yet tried them.
[11:07] <socr> kenshin: just googled...
[11:08] <Rabbitbunny> HiTo: You probably need to sudo.
[11:08] <kenshin> socr, i tried one with pendrive linux, didn't work :|
[11:08] <kenshin> it hanged
[11:08] <erUSUL> HiTo: you have another dpkg/apt front end running such as synaptic updatemanager etc
[11:08] <socr> kenshin: hold on... get u an Url
[11:08] <robinw> robg_: yeap, but it's GUI in python and i need it for mutt
[11:08] <kenshin> i think it was a problem with my pendrive, i'm formatting it and doing it again
[11:08] <socr> kenshin: got a windows machine ?
[11:08] <kenshin> but it takes an aweful load of time
[11:08] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, Trying to connect/attached my first printer to Ubuntu. Any ideas about this password? I keep getting "Password require / Password for <me> on localhost? But it immediately re-asks the dialog.  I've tried my password (a sudoer) and root's, but no luck.
[11:08] <kenshin> yessir
[11:09] <zaputr>
[11:09] <zaputr> MPleer before each launch afqkf tries to open sokket and download LIRC. Failed to open LIRC support and then everything is included and the rules work, how to disable the download?
[11:09] <robg_> robinw: consult Google for Mutt script to query Gmail.
[11:09] <socr> kenshin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/   VERY easy.... does it in a few secs.
[11:09] <kenshin> O RLY?
[11:09] <neeto> Is there some way to rescan for devices that I just plugged in, but aren't automounting, and aren't listed in /dev/?
[11:09] <Kartagis> hi again
[11:10] <HiTo> Mhmmmm
[11:10] <kenshin> i'm trying the same way again, it takes alot of time when it comes to this line Extracting  casper\filesystem.squashfs
[11:10] <HiTo> Rabbitbunny i used the Totem interface for that, and it asked for the admin password, so it should work
[11:11] <socr> kenshin: do not use ScanDisk stick this U3launcher stuff makes it impossible to use.
[11:11] <kenshin> socr, thanks
[11:11] <HiTo> erUSUL I don't have anything like that running, Only Vmware and some explorer windows
[11:11] <kenshin> socr..eh what?
[11:12] <gooody> anybody knows how to display my files on the desktop as icons?
[11:12] <socr> kenshin: ?
[11:12] <foobarasd> Hi, how to deactivate the network manager and set default options for my network?
[11:12] <kenshin> socr, do not use ScanDisk stick you say??
[11:12] <erUSUL> HiTo: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" and try again if you are sure
[11:12] <kenshin> i didn't quite get that line
[11:12] <pentagram> yes you should change a certain directoru of the file
[11:12] <erUSUL> foobarasd: SystemA>Admin>Net disable roaming mode on the iface and configure
[11:13] <socr> kenshin: yes, do not use Sandisk sticks
[11:13] <Rabbitbunny> gooody: symlink? put the files in ~/Desktop ?
[11:13] <kenshin> i don't know what that is
[11:13] <gooody> Rabbitbunny: i don't want my files to be displayed as thumbnails on desktop. any way?
[11:14] <socr> kenshin: typo: SanDisk is a brand of sticks, they have this feature to mount/unmount and  such... they are special in some way
[11:14] <foobarasd> erUSUL, no, I dont want to use the network manager
[11:14] <HiTo> erUSUL i just noticed in the tray a notification for 3 updates, tried to get them and got the same error, so I will try your command, any command to know what might be locking that ?
[11:14] <foobarasd> I want to shut it down
[11:14] <gooody> Rabbitbunny: i want it to be displayed as icons.
[11:14] <foobarasd> I killed him and now my network works, so I want to deactrivate the network manager
[11:14] <erUSUL> foobarasd: if you disable roaming mode you are disabling network manager. i think i made that clear
[11:14] <Rabbitbunny> gooody: No idea.
[11:14] <foobarasd> erUSUL, no
[11:14] <foobarasd> When I disable roaming mode, the network manager application is still runinng
[11:14] <kenshin> socr, ah
[11:15] <gooody> Rabbitbunny: thanks anyway for the reply.
[11:15] <erUSUL> HiTo: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[11:15] <foobarasd> and when I configure my network with this gui it does not work
[11:15] <Lr5> Is it just me or is Firefox 3 a lot faster with the newest kernel?
[11:15] <foobarasd> When I kill the network manager with kill -9 and configure my network with iwconfig and ifconfig, it works
[11:15] <erUSUL> foobarasd: but he is not in control of the interfaces which you disabled roaming mode
[11:15] <StealthCP> I want apt to never update the kernel, or it's modules.  How would I do that?
[11:15] <gooody> anybody here knows how to display my desktop files as icons not thumbnails?
[11:16] <apollo> Can anybody help me configure lighttpd with fastcgi and python?
[11:16] <foobarasd> erUSUL, but I with this network manager my network simply does not work
[11:16] <foobarasd> can I uninstall this network manager?
[11:16] <erUSUL> foobarasd: yes
[11:16] <sampoo> hi
[11:16] <socr> kenshin: I'm installing Ubuntu on aASUS  eeePC this way
[11:16] <foobarasd> Because this network manager is shit .. It didn't even have a function to search for wireless networks..
[11:16] <StealthCP> I do want other packages in the recommended repo, just not kernel updates, due to modules specific for this hardware being only for the original Hardy kernel
[11:16] <sampoo> does anyone know if it is normal that logrotate reports 'Re-opening all log files' every day by mail?
[11:16] <zaputr> MPleer before each launch afqkf tries to open sokket and download LIRC. Failed to open LIRC support and then everything is included and the rules work, how to disable the download?
[11:17] <HiTo> erUSUL thanks, last command did not return anything
[11:17] <StealthCP> eeepc modules to be specific
[11:17] <wers> how do I play wmv on totem?
[11:17] <manifest> get codecs prolly
[11:17] <icqnumber> !wmv
[11:17] <sampoo> (i changed my settings for the apache logfiles to rotate 5 times instead of the default 52, and since then it started reporting that)
[11:17] <Lr5> wers: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[11:17] <wers> Lr5, done that
[11:18] <erUSUL> !w32codecs | wers
[11:18] <foobarasd> erUSUL, Because this network manager is shit .. It didn't even have a function to search for wireless networks..
[11:18] <wers> i think, i have to install this xine backend
[11:18] <HiTo> erUSUL the "sudo rm...." worked, codecs are downloading, I hope I didn't mess with something :)
[11:18] <Sinnerman> if i may venture to ask, why does nautilus in gutsy take so long to load at log-on, that is, about 10-15 seconds, and is there a way to make it load faster?
[11:18] <erUSUL> !language | foobarasd
[11:18] <Rabbitbunny> if XMMS is obsolete, what are we using now?
[11:18] <erUSUL> foobarasd: works for me (tm) this is linux you can do whatever you want
[11:19] <ragsagar> !shit | foobarasd
[11:19] <erUSUL> Rabbitbunny: audacious ?
[11:19] <Rabbitbunny> erUSUL: THanks.
[11:19] <kenshin> socr, i'm trying this way because I wasted 2 CDs already faultly burning it
[11:20] <generic> hi all i installed ubuntu 8.04 on every reboot my resolv.conf files just removes and need to recreate
[11:20] <VSpike> Hey Flannel .. didn't work.  It's quite odd.. it does stage 1.5 and then drops to terminal
[11:20] <generic> any cure?
[11:20] <foobarasd> erUSUL, where is the function to search for wireless networks ? im using ubuntu 7.10
[11:20] <VSpike> Flannel: When I do the find command, it does suggest that the drive map has changed
[11:20] <Shervin> Hi, I want to install ubuntu FIRST then Windows XP how do i go about doing that. I tried it once and then XP took over and didn't even give me the choice of booting into Ubuntu.
[11:20] <erUSUL> foobarasd: comman line? "sudo iwconfig wlan0 scan"
[11:21] <VSpike> Flannel: because hd1 appears to have become hd0
[11:21] <erUSUL> Shervin: you really should do it the other way around
[11:21] <manifest> shervin: i see no way
[11:21] <foobarasd> erUSUL, okay, found it
[11:21] <foobarasd> iwlist
[11:21] <robg_> Shervin: both OSes will attempt to establish dominance over your harddrive.
[11:21] <foobarasd> So how can I uninstall the network manager?
[11:21] <VSpike> Flannel: I'm in the terminal now (fired up another machine to make this easier)
[11:22] <Shervin> ersul: Is there a way where i can install ubuntu first?
[11:22] <Sinnerman> erUSUL, foobarasd i dunno if im missing something, but if i go to wireless networks -> properties, i get a dropdown which offers me a choice of wireless networks to connect to... doesn't it already search for networks that way implicitly?
[11:22] <Hannz> hello
[11:22] <Shervin> OR at least i've heard of trying to put grub back into action
[11:22] <zaputr> MPlayer before each launch tries to open soket and download LIRC. Failed to open LIRC support and then everything is work true, how to disable the download?
[11:22] <Shervin> thats what i was told by someone today
[11:22] <VSpike> Flannel: it appears to have a file system, in that if I do kernel /<tab> i get some vmlinuz and initrd files
[11:22] <gooody> Anybody can help me change file views of desktop as icons not as thumbnails.
[11:24] <erUSUL> Sinnerman: yes it does i never said otherwise
[11:24] <StealthCP> I want apt to never update the kernel, or it's modules.  How would I do that?
[11:25] <Sinnerman> erUSUL: oh well, i kinda missed the first part of foobarasd's question. i guess that kinda solves it?
[11:25] <HiTo> Is there a way to 'easily' make md5 checksums of a whole directory with tree, and compare it after to a backup ?
[11:26] <maxman> Hi. My CPU temperature sometimes goes up to 95 degrees Celsius. When I run the `top` command, I see that fusesmb.cache uses 97% of the CPU. I tried ti `killall -9 fusesmb.cache` but it always comes back. Does anyone know how I can get rid of this? I really don't need any SMB stuff to be cached
[11:26] <mrynit> I am trying to use xvidcap on 8.04. it crashes if i recode with audio recording. if i turn audio capture off it works fine. how can i run it while captureing audio and not have it crash
[11:27] <manifest> was linus torvalds finnish or estonian?
[11:27] <tdawgedogg> hey guys, can someone help me setup a sql database to use with amarok
[11:27] <StealthCP> tdawgedogg, MySQL?
[11:28] <StealthCP> tdawgedogg, join #kde
[11:28] <sampoo> why does logrotate report 'Re-opening all log files'? does it mean anything?
[11:28] <Slart> HiTo: have you checked the man page for md5sum? I suppose you could always do a find ./ | md5sum or something like that
[11:28] <StealthCP> tdawgedogg, or #amarok
[11:29] <click170_> StealthCP, there is a way to tell apt to hold said package
[11:29] <VSpike> Is it possible that my BIOS remaps grub devices at boot time and then puts them back again once booted?
[11:29] <mrynit> manifest: Finish. ckech wikipedia
[11:29] <VSpike> It seems that changing my boot priority changes the device map, but grub can't seem to see it one the system is booted
[11:30] <VSpike> I guess I just manually edit /boot/grub/device.map ?
[11:30] <HiTo> Slart I did, but I am not sure it will do it for the whole tree like that
[11:31] <click170_> StealthCP,       echo "kernel-image hold" | dpkg --set-selections    where kernel-image is the package you wish to hold
[11:34] <Slart> HiTo: this seems to work... find . -type f -exec md5sum {} \; >checksum.md5
[11:34] <manifest__> was linus torvalds finnish or estonian?
[11:34] <zaputr> How can I disable LIRC support in MPlayer?
[11:35] <Slart> HiTo: it will create a file checksum.md5 with the checksums of all the files in the directory.. and any directories under it.. use md5sum -c checksum.md5 to check it later
[11:35] <gooody> can i easily uninstall installed deb packages?
[11:35] <microwaver> are there any repositories required to sudo-apt get ndiswrapper?
[11:35] <Slart> manifest__: google didn't know that?
[11:35] <manifest__> umm
[11:35] <manifest__> :)
[11:35] <Slart> manifest__: yes.. go sit in the corner... no dessert for you ;)
[11:36] <Slart> !info ndiswrapper
[11:36] <manifest__> :FFF
[11:36] <Slart> !info ndiswrapper-common
[11:36] <Boxxxer> hello
[11:36] <Boxxxer> i just need a simple answer
[11:36] <microwaver> Slart, i'm using 7.10
[11:36] <Slart> microwaver: it's in main.. shouldn't be necessary to add any special repos
[11:37] <LordMetroid> Is there a way I can tell which file was the original file of a hard link and the original file?
[11:37] <Boxxxer> what is the program for locking the screen in Ubuntu 8.04 called/named?
[11:37] <Slart> microwaver: ah.. I don't know where it is in 7.10.. try apt-cache search ndiswrapper and see what you get
[11:37] <microwaver> Slart, thanks. i'll lok further into it, it's just i'm following this guide : http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper
[11:37] <Jokka> Does anyone know where i can find kick-ass linux wallpapers?
[11:37] <Slart> Jokka: gnome-look.org and it's siblings
[11:37] <microwaver> Jokka, gnome user?
[11:37] <koshari> Jokka gnome look?
[11:37] <Jokka> gnome yes
[11:38] <Boxxxer> anyone has any clue?
[11:38] <Jokka> Ok, thx guys =)
[11:38] <microwaver> Boxxxer, you mean when u type ctrl + alt + l?
[11:38] <Boxxxer> yes
[11:38] <robg_> Jokka: I found nice photos via Google Images
[11:38] <fde> Boxxxer: gnome-screensaver does it.
[11:38] <HiTo> Slart I will try that so, thanks... files to check are on FreeBSD and original data is on Ubuntu
[11:38] <Jokka> robg_ yeah.. but those kinda suck =)
[11:38] <Boxxxer> so gnome-screensaver has this built in?
[11:38] <Slart> microwaver: it looks ok.. but I haven't messed with ndiswrapper so I might miss something obvious
[11:39] <microwaver> Jokka, www.deviantart.com
[11:39] <fde> Boxxxer: yes
[11:39] <robg_> Jokka: travel companies have nice landscape photos.
[11:39] <Boxxxer> i see
[11:39] <Boxxxer> thanks
[11:39] <Slart> HiTo: shouldn't be a problem.. if the md5sum software can talk to eachother
[11:39] <Jokka> robg_ i want something that connects to linux
[11:39] <Jokka> microwaver, thx
[11:40] <robg_> Jokka: Google image search is the gateway to images.
[11:40] <Jokka> robg_ as i said, i don tlike em. ive been searching for the ultimate wallpaper for ages
[11:40] <HiTo> Slart i hope so, and yes the command seems to work fine, thanks
[11:40] <koshari>  eepro100 is seen to load using lsmod however the hardware is not available in ifconfig.
[11:41] <Slart> HiTo: you're welcome
[11:41] <Jokka> robg_ http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3mo8.png is what i got now
[11:41] <robg_> Jokka: I have 50 landscape photos on a CD and on file. I change to another photo every day.
[11:41] <koshari> anyone had much experiance with loading ethernet modules?
[11:42] <VSpike> I don't get it - when I start grub, it does stage 1.5 and drops me into a terminal...
[11:43] <VSpike> If at that point I do "configfile /grub/menu.lst" everything works from there
[11:43] <VSpike> So why will it not do that step automatically?
[11:43] <LordMetroid> Maybe there isn't a way to detect which original file that the target of a hard link was?
[11:44] <pavel_> hey guys, i have a problem with pidgin... it resets my connection to icq... msn connection works properly, though... it shows "Lost connection with server, connection reset by peer." when i try to re-enable it, it shows "incorrect password"... but i have saved the pass before :(
[11:44] <VSpike> pavel_: actually I just saw the same thing, maybe there is an ICQ fault
[11:44] <gad0> how do i check whether burnt cd is correct or not ?
[11:45] <pavel_> ok, thanks, im glad the fault is not on my side :)
[11:45] <gad0> !md5sum
[11:45] <tdawgedogg> gad0: is there a data verification setting when u burn the cd
[11:45] <jimmio> question, does anyone know a place to ask questions about Webmin?
[11:45] <gad0> tdawgedogg: yes it was but had it unchecked while burning cd
[11:46] <Slart> jimmio: it isn't included in ubuntu's repos anymore.. see !webmin . Someone here might still know a thing or two about it though
[11:46] <Kartagis> do i need to re-configure kernel for sound?
[11:47] <Sinnerman> if i may venture to ask, why does nautilus in gutsy take so long to load at log-on, that is, about 10-15 seconds, and is there a way to make it load faster?
[11:47] <tdawgedogg> gad0: well just to be safe i would reburn it with data verification....i have had lots of coasters with certain brands of discs
[11:47] <gad0> whats the exact command for doing md5sum or checksum on CD ?
[11:47] <gad0> tdawgedogg: already done that
[11:47] <tyberion> hey,, hmm i jsut switched to Fluxbox... which filemanager besides nautilus am I able to use here?
[11:48] <nomasteryoda> thunar
[11:48] <gad0> thunar is in xfce
[11:48] <jimmio> Well, the issue I have with Webmin is it not recognizing Apache is running... and not being able to start it. Really odd...
[11:48] <Chrysalis> i am trying to get the gecko-mediaplayer for streaming in ff3, does anyone know if it matters weather i get mplayer of gnome-mplayer for it?
[11:48] <nomasteryoda> ya but it works well... tyberion you can install thunar
[11:48] <tyberion> xthanks buddys
[11:48] <davetarmac> Can anyone help in setting up a VNC connection to a OS X Tiger box from Ubuntu 8.04 over an established VPN connection?
[11:48] <AlexMorris> hi guys, when you call from yahoo to a cell phone. it displays any number on the receipient's cell phone? or its shown as "unknown  number" ?
[11:49] <koshari> tyberion thunar?
[11:49] <jrib> !offtopic | AlexMorris
[11:49] <nomasteryoda> tyberion, if you want lighter, there's the n-curses based mc (midnight commander)
[11:49] <koshari> tyberion dolphin?
[11:49] <Slart> gad0: usually you match the md5sum with the md5sum of the iso you burned.. then the cd burning software can compare the iso to the burned disc and see if those match.. at least brasero does this
[11:49] <koshari> dolphin!
[11:50] <koshari> !dolphin
[11:50] <jrib> tyberion: pcmanfm, thunar, mc  are some choices
[11:50] <koshari> !thunar
[11:50] <gracedman> Hello, all.  I have an Ubuntu specific cups problem (works on other distros).  NoMachine's NXClient shares local printers with a nx cups backend but Ubuntu returns lpadmin: Bad device-uri nx://<device>
[11:50] <gad0> !checksum
[11:50] <gracedman> nx is in /usr/lib.cups/backend
[11:50] <gad0> !sha1sum
[11:51] <gracedman> sorry /usr/lib/cups/backend
[11:51] <Slart> !md5
[11:51] <gad0> Slart: am in console :(
[11:51] <gracedman> Any idea why Hardy cups can't use the nx backend?
[11:51] <gad0> Slart: can u fetch the command from the link ?
[11:52] <Kartagis> what package do i need for kernel sources?
[11:52] <jimmio> gad0: isn't it just md5 <key here> <location here>
[11:52] <jimmio> gad0: try man md5.. see if you get any info
[11:52] <jrib> Kartagis: why do you want kernel sources?
[11:53] <Kartagis> jrib: configure it to build my sound card module
[11:54] <jrib> Kartagis: you should just need linux-headers-$(uname -r) for that
[11:54] <jimmio> gad0: It's md5sum <location of file>
[11:55] <Kartagis> jrib: there are linux-header-$(uname -r)-generic directories in my /usr/src too. are they non applicable?
[11:56] <jrib> Kartagis: uname -r includes "-generic"
[11:57] <Kartagis> damn! I got a screen of errors when I did make menuconfig
[11:58] <mooper>  grr, the shift, ctrl and caps lock keysd arent working, anyone any ideas why not/
[11:59] <jrib> Kartagis: have you browsed the links ubottu gives in the !sound factoid?
[12:00] <gracedman> Hello, all.  Anyone interested in helping me troubleshoot a Hardy specific cups printing problem?
[12:00] <Chrysalis> whats the difference between gnome-mplayer and mplayer
[12:01] <new2linux_> hey all, i've installed ubuntu and using eth1 for internet to get all the updates. Now, I need the eth1 to face the network for the thin-client. What things do I need to do? anyone got references to a link?
[12:01] <jrib> Chrysalis: try them both and see?  I imagine gnome-mplayer uses gnome libraries
[12:01] <soundray> !info gnome-mplayer | Chrysalis
[12:01] <gracedman> Hi, Chrysalis - I'm not entirely sure but I believe mplayer is strictly CLI whereas gnome-mplayer probably sticks a gtk based GUI front end on the mplayer backend.
[12:01] <zaputr> how can i disable lirc in MPlayer&
[12:02] <soundray> zaputr: with the -nolirc option
[12:02] <Chrysalis> jrib: thats sorta obvious, isnt it? the reason why i ask is so i DONT have to do that
[12:02] <Kartagis> !sound
[12:03] <soundray> Chrysalis: read ubottu ^^
[12:03] <jrib> Chrysalis: k
[12:03] <elTigre> hey, my gnome is broken..... I can't boot into it
[12:03] <soundray> elTigre: how far do you get?
[12:04] <elTigre> I get a screen with the backgroundimage, a mousepointer and nothing happens for at least  15 minute
[12:04] <elTigre> s
[12:04] <soundray> elTigre: does failsafe mode work (session option at login)?
[12:04] <elTigre> no
[12:04] <new2linux_> hey all, i've installed ubuntu and using eth1 for internet to get all the updates. Now, I need the eth1 to face the network for the thin-client. What things do I need to do? anyone got references to a link?
[12:05] <soundray> elTigre: can you login at a virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F2)?
[12:05] <elTigre> only kde4 works currently. I have installed kubuntu... but now I'd like to switch over
[12:05] <new2linux_> set static ip to eth1 and setup dhcp?
[12:05] <elTigre> yes
[12:05] <Silver_> er
[12:06] <soundray> elTigre: have you fully installed ubuntu-desktop and all dependencies?
[12:06] <elTigre> that I can't say
[12:06] <elTigre> I did try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop though
[12:07] <soundray> elTigre: redo the command in the text console and see if it reports any errors. If it does, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[12:08] <cj_> hello im having trouble trying to Navigate to my ATI drivers to install them in the Terminal
[12:08] <soundray> cj_: you shouldn't do that. Install ATI drivers via System-Administration-Hardware Drivers
[12:09] <koshari> anyone know how to upgrade your initrd to load a different module?
[12:09] <elTigre> soundray: doesn't change anything
[12:09] <elTigre> all packages configure nicely, just as before
[12:10] <Boxxxer> hello again
[12:10] <soundray> koshari: generally, you reference the module in /etc/initramfs, then run sudo update-initramfs
[12:10] <Boxxxer> can you please help me find the source code of gnome-screensaver?
[12:10] <Boxxxer> i did some google searches but no luck
[12:10] <soundray> elTigre: look at ~/.xsession-errors to see if any problems are reported in there
[12:11] <icewaterman> i am using full disc encryption with hardy. however since i have separate partitions for / swap and tmp i have to enter the password multiple times - which is kinda annoying. is there a way to tell the script to use the password entered on all luks partitions?
[12:11] <cj_> ok i keep getting a message New Restricted drivers in use
[12:11] <soundray> !source | Boxxxer
[12:11] <soundray> cj_: so you already have the latest ATI driver for your system
[12:11] <elTigre> soundray: I have to restart for that
  it's strange, it doesn't solve my broblem , before each running of file MPlayer opens then 13 seconds waits and only after 13 seconds normally run my file, log of Mplayer is here http://paste.org.ru/?lp4lvo , may be you know how to solve this problem
[12:12] <soundray> elTigre: no -- why?
[12:12] <soundray> elTigre: are you in Windows?
[12:12] <cj_> so its working properly then?
[12:12] <elTigre> or at least restart the X Session
[12:12] <elTigre> no, Kde4
[12:12] <elTigre> and KDE works kinda
[12:13] <soundray> elTigre: I see, that would have overwritten the error log
[12:13] <elTigre> there aren't any errors in the xsession thing, so I have to look at the gnome generated one
[12:14] <soundray> cj_: probably. Do a 'glxgears' and check the framerate that it displays
[12:14] <koshari> soundray si i add the module to the modules file in initfs and then run the update?
[12:14] <soundray> cj_: or glxinfo
[12:14] <Boxxxer> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:14] <soundray> koshari: that's generally how you do it, yes
[12:14] <Boxxxer> darn
[12:14] <Boxxxer> can oyu help me out here?
[12:15] <jrib> Boxxxer: you need deb-src lines in addition to the deb lines you have
[12:15] <soundray> Boxxxer: System-Admin-Software Sources -- Source code
[12:15] <Boxxxer> oh
[12:15] <Boxxxer> ok
[12:15] <koshari> soundray and it will then not load the previously default module?
[12:15] <jrib> Boxxxer: soundra's way is better
[12:15] <soundray> Boxxxer: that will create the necessary lines that jrib refers to
[12:16] <VSpike> Why when I'm in the grub shell do I have /boot/grub/device.map and /grub/device.map ?
[12:16] <cj_> ok i did that what am i looking for to see if it is working right?
[12:16] <soundray> koshari: I've only given you generic advice. You haven't told me any specifics of your problem.
[12:16] <Boxxxer> trying now ;)
[12:16] <VSpike> In fact generally I seem to have /... and /boot/... but they are not the same files
[12:16] <soundray> cj_: what's the framerate
[12:16] <exot> hello, how can I divide string in python into splits by spaces ?
[12:17] <Boxxxer> yup yup yup, it's working ;)
[12:17] <cj_> sorry a little new to this where do i find that i see alot of numbers
[12:17] <Boxxxer> thanks
[12:17] <mrynit> exot: try #python
[12:17] <mrynit> or RTFM :/
[12:17] <soundray> cj_: sorry to confuse you. What's the framerate from glxgears?
[12:17] <remoteCTR1> anone ever tried to transport a full hd output from a ubuntu pc to a full hd tv?
[12:17] <koshari> soundray sorry, basicly my prob is i need eepro100 for my networking but even with e100 in the balacklist its seen to be loading with dmesg obviousely earlier than the modules blacklist cuts in therefore whan eepro100 loads it wont work until i do rmmod and then modprobe
[12:17] <elTigre> soundray: no valuable information there....
[12:18] <elTigre> soundray: two errors about another gpg-client/ssh-client already running ... other than that nada
[12:18] <new2linux_> what's the different between synaptic and add/remove programs?
[12:18] <cj_> 27090 Frames in 5.0 sec
[12:19] <soundray> elTigre: you've never logged into gnome on this machine, correct?
[12:19] <cj_> = 5417 FPS
[12:19] <koshari> new2linux synaptoc is a lot more comprehensive
[12:19] <elTigre> I have
[12:19] <VSpike> new2linux_: add/remove programs is just organised differently - both use the same underlying package management
[12:19] <elTigre> but thats two months ago
[12:19] <new2linux_> koshari: but those 2 programs function almost the same right?
[12:20] <robg_> new2linux: contrary to windows, linux works with one installer called package manager.
[12:20] <koshari> new2linux yes , however i dont know that add programs allows you to edit sources ect.
[12:20] <elTigre> is there a way to force reinstallation of gnome?
[12:20] <Emry> Does this look reasonable for a two gig quota with 4k block sizes?  sudo setquota -u username<PHONE_NUMBER>00 8000 8192 -a
[12:21] <koshari> elTigre in synaptic you could do completely remove, install
[12:21] <soundray> cj_: that's awesome :) your driver is working
[12:21] <mrynit> has anyone used xvidcap on ubuntu? it crashes for me when doing audio
[12:21] <soundray> elTigre: I don't recommend that
[12:21] <rsk> mrynit: known bug, chek launchpad. one solution is to build xvidcap from svn.
[12:21] <cj_> sweet thanks
[12:21] <soundray> elTigre: we need to do more diagnostics, otherwise you'll end up with the same problem.
[12:21] <mrynit> rsk: oh fun...
[12:22] <rsk> yea :F
[12:22] <soundray> elTigre: I suggest you create a new user for testing, and see if gnome works when you log in as that
[12:22] <rsk> or switch audio codec might work
[12:22] <new2linux_> i used the eth1 for internet, now i need to change it to face the network for the thin-client? what things should i do to change the network? anyone has a link to this task?
[12:22] <elTigre> ok...
[12:22] <mrynit> i use recodMyDesktop and it works better on my P3
[12:22] <koshari> mrynit have you tried recordmydesktop, i found it pretty stable
[12:22] <mrynit> koshari: yeah but no audio.
[12:22] <soundray> elTigre: is this a gutsy system?
[12:23] <elTigre> Hardy Heron
[12:23] <cj_> now if i could only get wine to run guild wars right id be set but i think i need to go to wine for that though
[12:23] <soundray> elTigre: so you installed the beta? Or did you upgrade from gutsy?
[12:23] <elTigre> yes
[12:23] <Emry> cj_, Try forcing it to run in OpenGL mode.
[12:23] <mrynit> koshari: the sound recording device is DEFAULT. im usign a usb mic. i dont know how to point it to the right audio input
[12:23] <soundray> elTigre: coffee or tea? Yes please.
[12:24] <Sinnerman> if i may venture to ask, why does nautilus in gutsy take so long to load at log-on, that is, about 10-15 seconds, and is there a way to make it load faster?
[12:24] <elTigre> Though I believe Heron was released recently
[12:24] <k33qk> hello
[12:24] <soundray> elTigre: you said you logged into gnome months ago. Hardy has been out for 5 weeks only
[12:25] <abdulla> hi everyone
[12:25] <abdulla> need some help plz
[12:25] <mm5087> upgrade memory will make gutsy faster ..and remove unnecessary service ..
[12:25] <elTigre> well yes, but that was guts
[12:25] <elTigre> y
[12:25] <k33qk> abdulla:what?
[12:25] <cj_> sorry Emry but i just got ubuntu 4 hours ago trying to learn it i dont know how to get to Opengl
[12:25] <mrynit> abdulla: when in IRC just ask the question! >:(
[12:25] <soundray> Sinnerman: how do you know the delay is due to nautilus?
[12:25] <anathematic> how do i create another user on my ubuntu server box?
[12:25] <VSpike> anathematic: sudo adduser <name>
[12:25] <FLeiXiuS> anathematic, adduser USERNAME
[12:25] <soundray> anathematic: 'sudo adduser newusername'
[12:25] <mm5087> adduser
[12:25] <davetarmac> hi folks
[12:25] <Sinnerman> sound managed to have top running one time if was taking a bit longer. it was hogging CPU time.
[12:25] <elTigre> I didn't blank the system in between, I just upgraded
[12:26] <pir0-> hi all
[12:26] <mrynit> lol three answers in a row
[12:26] <anathematic> thanks
[12:26] <Sinnerman> soundray: managed to have top running one time if was taking a bit longer. it was hogging CPU time.
[12:26] <abdulla> will windows powerpoint presentation open in ubunt?
[12:26] <VSpike> wish i had three answers :)
[12:26] <abdulla> ubunt*
[12:26] <Emry> cj_, I see.  It is in the wine settings.  For me, Guildwars ran right out of the box.  The trick is to download the installer from the website instead of using the CD.  :)
[12:26] <abdulla> ubuntu*
[12:26] <davetarmac> i need some help with accessing apple remote desktop from my ubuntu box
[12:26] <k33qk> abdulla:yes
[12:26] <soundray> VSpike: ask an easy question :)
[12:26] <VSpike> soundray: ahhh silly me :)
[12:26] <davetarmac> i'm connected to work via a VPN now, but I can't seem to ping any of the boxes there
[12:26] <VSpike> nice to see
[12:27] <HangukMiguk_> my fluxbox menu no longer has a styles directory, how do i get it back?!
[12:27] <mm5087> install vnc ..
[12:27] <elTigre> how can I create a new user? I never used kde for that...
[12:27] <VSpike> nice to see #grub is as much use as a chocolate teapot
[12:27] <elTigre> and firefox is broken now, too..
[12:27] <abdulla> someone answer my question plz
[12:27] <Dr_willis> elTigre,  i just do a 'sudo adduser USERNAME'
[12:27] <soundray> elTigre: don't know in KDE, I'd just do 'sudo adduser test' in CLI
[12:27] <abdulla> can openoffice open powerpoinnt presentations?
[12:27] <soundray> abdulla: it can
[12:27] <davetarmac> mm5087: you talking to me?
[12:28] <cj_> ok i installed it from the Guild wars site
[12:28] <abdulla> iam talking to everyone
[12:28] <Emry> abdulla, Some of them will run ok in OpenOffice, but there is not 100% compatability with powerpoint.
[12:28] <abdulla> aha
[12:28] <VSpike> Why when I'm in the grub shell do I have /boot/grub/device.map and /grub/device.map ?
[12:28] <soundray> abdulla: but some formatting and embedded objects may be lost
[12:28] <cj_> where do i go in wine to do that though
[12:28] <VSpike> In fact generally I seem to have /... and /boot/... but they are not the same files
[12:28] <gribouille> hi
[12:28] <k33qk> abdulla oo 2.2 has some problems
[12:28] <mm5087> can abdulla ...
[12:28] <elTigre> ok I'll restart
[12:28] <abdulla> int there a way to mae it 100% compatible?
[12:28] <Emry> cj_, What happens when you tell guildwars to start?
[12:28] <gribouille> I tried KDE 4.0.4 with the kubuntu packages, but it is a complete failure. can someone help me ?
[12:28] <abdulla> isn't there a way to mae it 100% compatible?
[12:29] <Emry> abdulla, 100% compatability will require Microsoft to play nice.
[12:29] <HangukMiguk_> my fluxbox menu no longer has a styles directory, how do i get it back?!
[12:29] <mrynit> abdulla: i have yet to have problems with it
[12:29] <soundray> abdulla: it will happen gradually, now that Microsoft have opened the specs to the ppt format. But it's hard work.
[12:29] <k33qk> Emry :weel said
[12:29] <k33qk> well said
[12:29] <Emry> They made PPT open?
[12:29] <abdulla> aha i see
[12:29] <mrynit> i thought OO.o was on ver 2.4
[12:29] <soundray> Emry: yes
[12:29] <Emry> That is impressive.
[12:29] <leo|lap> Could someone recommend a book or similar about setting up a it infra structure for a small buisness? Basic stuff and what you should think about with users and storage etc. All in linux of course.
[12:30] <Emry> soundray, Is it open, or is it open with closed bits like their first attempt at an OXML?
[12:30] <soundray> Emry: it's still not a Free/libre format. There are strings attached
[12:30] <abdulla> so i cant install ubuntu for my momslaptop
[12:30] <leo|lap> I try finding stuff on google etc, but my terminology limits me to bad results :)
[12:30] <k33qk> abdulla:u can find pptview[linuxappfinder.com] built with wine at Ubuntu multiverse.
[12:30] <luke_> does anyone know what command shows me the pci id of my wireless card? im trying to use ndiswrapper
[12:30] <mrynit> abdulla: you could but i would advise not
[12:30] <Metatron> hello all, i have started with a text based server and am trying to add X, i used sudo aptitude install x-window-system-core, it complained about alot of dependencies, X wont start, whats missing?
[12:30] <Emry> soundray, Of course, that is to be expected.   BUT if the documents are available for people to produce libs, then those libs may not be free but they will work. hehehe
[12:30] <soundray> abdulla: my parents are both on Ubuntu (non-technical)
[12:31] <soundray> abdulla: occasionally I have to give telephone support
[12:31] <Emry> abdulla, What are your requirements?
[12:31] <abdulla>  the problem is that the other computers in her work use winblows
[12:31] <EsTEx> having a problem connecting to web server via ftp. After server requests password ftp seems to hang
[12:31] <davetarmac> is there a way i can find out what computers are on the network i'm connected to?
[12:31] <robg_> leo|lap: basically client - server configurations.
[12:31] <k33qk> abdulla:try pptview
[12:31] <leo|lap> basicly robg_
[12:31] <abdulla> wht is that
[12:31] <Emry> abdulla, Often times, unless you are a techy, it is better for your laptop to support whatever you use at work.  Your home machine however is another story all together. hehhee:P
[12:31] <abdulla> pptview?
[12:32] <abdulla> iam a total noob
[12:32] <leo|lap> maybe not the specific configuration, but what to use and why
[12:32] <leo|lap> for example to share files, enable remote log on etc
[12:32] <EsTEx> anyone had that problem before? (with ftp)
[12:32] <robg_> leo|lap: you decide whether you want to run an inhouse server or whether you want to use online services.
[12:32] <soundray> abdulla: you shouldn't put your mother on Ubuntu, unless she has access to people who know it well and will help her in case of problems.
[12:32] <k33qk> here's my problem:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809626
[12:33] <k33qk> any help plz?
[12:33] <cj_> it load into the login screen but its all messed up looks like jumble blue and yellow part of the login screen
[12:33] <Dr_willis> soundray,  :) i was thinking the same thing.. only about windows... had to help my mom with windows many times.
[12:33] <abdulla> arent there any opensource programs thaat can open any powerpoint presentation?
[12:33] <Emry> abdulla, If the machine is currentluy running windows, and she uses windows at work, and she is comfortable with windows, then it is ok to leave her with window.s  :P
[12:33] <soundray> abdulla: no
[12:33] <Emry> Ok, go to your run line, run box, whatever, and tell it to run winecfg.
[12:34] <anirudh0> abdulla, openoffice
[12:34] <soundray> abdulla: as I was telling you, ppt was a closed, secret format until very recently
[12:34] <anirudh0> abdulla, essentially all ppt's will open in openoffice impress
[12:34] <Emry> abdulla:  From what they are saying, ppt will start getting better! hehe
[12:34] <soundray> Dr_willis: my parent support load has decreased thanks to Ubuntu
[12:34] <Ogma> is the server install the same as the desktop with just more stuff and support ?
[12:34] <Emry> abdulla, IS there a reason you want to put Ubuntu on her laptop?
[12:34] <mrynit> abdulla: openoffice.org
[12:34] <Frogzoo> Ogma: less
[12:34] <sarmisak> Ogma: no
[12:34] <Dr_willis> soundray,  sure cuts down on the viruses they managet to get.
[12:35] <march> Hi :)
[12:35] <robg_> Ogma: desktop is 700 Mb, server is 535 Mb.
[12:35] <Ogma> can i start with a server install CD and get the desktop stuff or equal too ?
[12:35] <cj_> ok in wine cfg
[12:35] <rsk> Ogma: yes
[12:35] <Frogzoo> Ogma: sure
[12:35] <abdulla> ofcourse there is a reason i want to put ubuntu on her laptop
[12:35] <abdulla> lol
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Ogma,  you can.. but it can be an annoyance.
[12:35] <Frogzoo> cj_: there is no wine config anymore
[12:35] <Ogma> i seee
[12:36] <march> Has anyone solved installation of Terminus in Hardy? libg++<IP_ADDRESS>-glibc2.2 isn't available anymore. libstdc++.so.2.8 is necessary for this game
[12:36] <abdulla> because i oftenly use her laptop alot
[12:36] <davetarmac> I'm connected to work over a vpn, but I can't get access to any of the machines via VNC - they're macs and I can connect to them when i'm in the office using the built in screen sharing software, but not from home using Remote Desktop Viewer - is there a reason for this?
[12:36] <abdulla> and i cant stand using windows
[12:36] <Ogma> damn it like 3 more hours to download the desktop cd then.. i got the server one =(
[12:36] <abdulla> and she likes ubuntu
[12:36] <magnetron> Ogma: the server install doesn't have any graphical interface. if you are going to use it as a desktop computer, get the desktop install.
[12:36] <lxb> 你好，大家好！
[12:36] <soundray> abdulla: you can set it up for dual-booting, so both of you can choose to use Windows or Ubuntu at boot time.
[12:36] <Frogzoo> davetarmac: can you ping them?
[12:36] <cj_> im in it Wine configuration
[12:36] <magnetron> !zh | lxb
[12:36] <anirudh0> abdulla, you can use remote access to fix problems on your mom's comp..in case any  arise after the switch to ubuntu
[12:37] <mrynit> abdulla: default grub to windows
[12:37] <davetarmac> Frogzoo: no, I can't
[12:37] <abdulla> yea
[12:37] <cj_> what do you mean thers no wine cfg
[12:37] <mrynit> set the wait time to 3 to 5 seconds
[12:37] <Frogzoo> davetarmac: well, there's your problem
[12:37] <abdulla> i never thought of that
[12:37] <abdulla> wait
[12:37] <anirudh0> soundray, given an options, moms will _never_ choose ubuntu...from personal experience :)
[12:37] <abdulla> i tried doing that
[12:37] <Ogma> cj_ win for games?
[12:37] <abdulla> i got till the partioning part
[12:37] <Ogma> wine*
[12:37] <abdulla> then some problems
[12:37] <Ogma> Cededa FTW =P
[12:37] <abdulla> no root is defined
[12:37] <davetarmac> Frogzoo: I know, do you have any experience of VPN's that might prove helpful?
[12:37] <mrynit> abdulla: please put more than one sentence on one line.
[12:38] <Emry> cj_, Let me bring it up.
[12:38] <abdulla> ok iam a slow typer
[12:38] <soundray> anirudh0: that's right. And why would she learn a new OS, if the old one is good enough?
[12:38] <anirudh0> abdulla, ubuntu has no root...use sudo
[12:38] <k33qk> here is my problem::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809626
[12:38] <abdulla> how to define a root?
[12:38] <magnetron> !sudo | abdulla
[12:38] <davetarmac> Frogzoo: I can ping the server, but I have a feeling that it has the same IP as my router here
[12:38] <anirudh0> soundray, because 1)old one is prone to viruses 2)old one is prone to random crashes...the lost goes on
[12:38] <mrynit> anirudh0: he meens /
[12:38] <saint-takesh1> abdulla: set the mount point of the linux patition to "/"
[12:38] <Emry> cj_, What kind of graphic card do you have?
[12:38] <cj_> ok im sorry guys i only got ubuntu 4 hours ago i just got the latest version of wine so im not sure all you guys a talking about
[12:39] <anirudh0> *list
[12:39] <cj_> ATI 3600
[12:39] <abdulla> wait just tell me wht i do when i get to the partioning part? plz
[12:39] <abdulla> ya the mount point
[12:39] <abdulla> and what type?
[12:39] <anirudh0> soundray, in windows, if something behaves wierdly, you are never sure whether its a bug or a virus
[12:40] <manifest__> or a "feature"
[12:40] <Emry> cj_, :/  let me see what I fan find.  ATI doesn't leave a lot of promise for games under Linux because of their crappy support of the community.  (Someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong here.  It has been a while since I personally saw a driver release for ATI).
[12:40] <anirudh0> abdulla, have you checked the install guides on wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:40] <Ogma> if I install with my ubuntu 7.10 CD i can upgrade to 8 whatever pretty easy right ..? don't have to download like another cd just the updater will do it for me right
[12:40] <abdulla> i have to set two partions right?
[12:40] <dpreacher> how do i make gnome do start automatically at startup?
[12:40] <soundray> anirudh0: I know all the arguments, and I'm on your side -- it's just a matter of perceptions. Most people accept viruses as a fact of life, to the extent that they come here saying "why is there no virus checker in Ubuntu by default?"
[12:40] <manifest__> frozenball o/
[12:40] <abdulla> no going to check them now
[12:40] <Frozenball> hello :o
[12:40] <robg_> Ogma: why not go for 8.04 straight away ?
[12:40] <soundray> dpreacher: make sure you have gdm installed
[12:40] <Frozenball> :o
[12:40] <anirudh0> soundray, ah..but there is..for ubuntu boxes that act as mail servers for other comps running windows
[12:40] <saint-takesh1> abdulla: you need to create two partitions; a "root" partition (probably best if you use ext3 filesystem) and a swap partition, using the swap filesystem
[12:41] <dpreacher> yeah i do soundray
[12:41] <mrynit> cj_: have you tried the new binaries from ATI
[12:41] <Ogma> id have to download the cd and allready downloaded the server 8.04 CD don't want to torrent a 3 hour download again
[12:41] <anirudh0> soundray, there is even a freeware version of avast...not that it is needed
[12:41] <Ogma> IF i can just update etc..
[12:41] <dpreacher> i did install gnome do too..but i have to set it to run at startup
[12:41] <soundray> No, anirudh0, there is no virus checker in Ubuntu *by default*
[12:41] <abdulla> i did that but then when i click next it says i have to set a root
[12:41] <dpreacher> how do i do that?
[12:41] <saint-takesh1> the swap drive is the equivalent of pagefile.sys under windows, it's like a bit of hard drive used as virtual RAM
[12:41] <anirudh0> soundray, but with the new NULL pointer hack..that may change
[12:41] <Emry> cj_, mrynit : mrynit There are new binaries?  cj_ If there are new binaries get them.
[12:41] <davetarmac> is there a reason that I can't ping machines when on their network via vpn?
[12:42] <soundray> dpreacher: you mean gdm is not starting up? Run 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' to fix that
[12:42] <mrynit> cj_: i have never run windows 3D games under wine but urban terror and nexubis fine
[12:42] <abdulla> how do i set a /root?
[12:42] <robg_> Ogma: switch on your computer in the evening and go to bed. In the morning the stuff is there.
[12:42] <anirudh0> soundray, see this for instance..even a linux box is susceptible to this ...http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/18/0436232&from=rss
[12:42] <Emry> cj_, Ubuntu MIGHT have packages for them, depending on the licensing, but there is a a good chance you will have to go straight to the web site.
[12:42] <mrynit> Emry: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html :S
[12:42] <soundray> abdulla: do you mean a root partition?
[12:42] <Ogma> robg_ but the updater thingy WILL beable to update it to 8 whatever right ????
[12:42] <abdulla> ya
[12:42] <dpreacher> not gdm soundray i want the quicklauncher Gnome Do to autolaunch on gnome startup
[12:42] <abdulla> do i set thee mount point to /root?
[12:42] <dtamas> the new ubuntu is quite perfect!!!
[12:43] <cj_> ok i have that DL already
[12:43] <abdulla> i did that and it still asks for a root, why?
[12:43] <soundray> dpreacher: then you should configure gdm for autologin (System-Admin-Login Window)
[12:43] <Emry> mrynit, Awesome.  ;P  Their semi-mellineal update.  :P
[12:43] <cj_> but not sure what to do with it
[12:43] <Emry> cj_, Follow the install instructions.
[12:43] <robg_> Ogma: probably, but I always get the best and the latest stuff.
[12:43] <soundray> abdulla: you have to set the mount point to just / (only the slash)
[12:43] <dpreacher> soundray, have you used the app called startupmanager?
[12:43] <saint-takesh1> abdulla: you have to set the mount point of the partition
[12:43] <abdulla> and thats it?
[12:43] <cj_> lol i tryed didnt understand them
[12:43] <dpreacher> where you can select which programs to start when you login
[12:44] <leo|lap> sorry robg_, i got distracted :) I don't know if we really talk about the same thing, as i said my termonology is quite poor
[12:44] <limac> Seeker`: , fde: there is no problem with the graphics anymore :) It resolved after I installed 32-bit
[12:44] <dpreacher> it has nothing to do with auto-logging in the user
[12:44] <Ogma> robg_ understand however don't have a cd burner or anything and ony have a 7.10 install CD or the server 8 CD from a friend
[12:44] <abdulla> so the mout point of the ext3 partion is /
[12:44] <dpreacher> i just wanted a command line way of doing it
[12:44] <dpreacher> rather than using the GUI
[12:44] <mrynit> abdulla: are yuo doing this on a spare computer?
[12:44] <Ogma> so its server 8 + update or desktop 7.10 + update
[12:44] <abdulla> ya
[12:44] <cj_> Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the ATI Proprietary Linux driver download.   dont know how to do this yet
[12:44] <abdulla> iam using my laptop now
[12:44] <limac> why isn't my winodw border changing thru emerald in Hardy?
[12:44] <Ogma> im going to say 7.10 + updates would be easier
[12:44] <anirudh0> dpreacher, for kde its .kde/Autostart
[12:44] <robg_> Ogma: you can temporarily install 7.10 and use that to download other stuff.
[12:45] <Glimer> quit
[12:45] <anirudh0> dpreacher, not sure for gnome
[12:45] <soundray> dpreacher: you've been talking about autostarting gnome... what exactly is it that you want to do?
[12:45] <abdulla> so the mount point of the ext3 partion is /, only?
[12:45] <Kartagis> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <--- I got this while I was trying to configure alsa-driver. how come?
[12:45] <Emry> cj_,  basically if it is like the ones in past (I have not looked so I am not sure) you will want to run them using sudo, or as root for the install, because it is going to put stuff places that your regular account can't go.  go into xterm, then in the directory it is in run ./ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86.x86_64.run
[12:45] <Ogma> robg_ thats what im saying 7.10 and then run the updates = 8 whatever
[12:45] <Ogma> should be
[12:45] <dpreacher> Gnome Do is different than Gnome soundray...its a quicksilver clone
[12:45] <soundray> dpreacher: it makes it easier if you keep everything on one line
[12:45] <dpreacher> oh oops
[12:45] <anirudh0> Kartagis, install  build-essential
[12:45] <SitUbuntuSit> how do i remove the boot splash screen?
[12:46] <dpreacher> for gnome...ubuntu hardy .... why kde. i thought i'd ask kde queries in kubuntu room or kde room
[12:46] <soundray> abdulla: yes, that's the so-called root
[12:46] <Lr5> SitUbuntuSit: remove "splash" from the boot options
[12:46] <mrynit> abdulla: / is root as in the entier OS is installed there as opposed to splitting /home /boot /etc to different partitions
[12:46] <anirudh0> SitUbuntuSit, remove usplash
[12:46] <Emry> :P
[12:46] <soundray> abdulla: you don't need a partition that is literally mounted on /root/
[12:46] <abdulla> aha now i see
[12:46] <Emry> Gnome is semi-evil...
[12:46] <Emry> But it is not so bad.
[12:46] <robg_> Ogma: if you have 7.10 desktop and you want 8.04 server you can temporarily install 7.10 download 8.04 and re-install.
[12:46] <dpreacher> soundray http://do.davebsd.com/
[12:46] <dpreacher> see this
[12:46] <abdulla> thanxs alot
[12:46] <SitUbuntuSit> thanks... thought so, but didn't want to tinker first.
[12:46] <cj_> i dont understand how to get to the directory that what im having tropuble with
[12:46] <mrynit> abdulla: you know you could read abot this stuff before harping on irc...
[12:46] <abdulla> going to try it now
[12:46] <abdulla> ok sorry
[12:47] <Emry> cj_, Where did you download it too?
[12:47] <anirudh0> mrynit, if people actually did that, this channel would be dead :)
[12:47] <soundray> dpreacher: System-Preferences-Session-Startup programs
[12:47] <cj_> Desktop
[12:47] <Emry> cd /home/<username>/Desktop
[12:47] <abdulla> iam new to ubuntu and linux and iam a noob, thats all
[12:47] <cj_> im in the terminal thing
[12:47] <Emry> replace <username> with whatever your actual user name is.
[12:47] <dpreacher> soundray...gotta set that up for someone remotely thru ssh. unless there's no other way to do it using CLI, i'll have to do it with GUI only :(
[12:47] <LOWER_CASE> Printing problem: attached first printer to Ubuntu: LaserJet with ethernet port. The "hp-setup" finds it, but cannot ping it. (I'm using "roaming" and getting my Linux box's IP from the ADSL router, so the IP addresses are all over the place.)
[12:48] <mrynit> anirudh0: it is ubuntu after all ...
[12:48] <anirudh0> abdulla, everyone starts as a noob...but then you learn to use google :)
[12:48] <mrynit> debian is fairly friendly too. just dont mention ubuntu there
[12:48] <mrynit> abdulla: buy a book or two.
[12:48] <Kartagis> CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.<--- what do I do?
[12:48] <cj_> it says Bash
[12:48] <soundray> dpreacher: gnome executes ~/.gnomerc on startup -- perhaps call it from there. No experience with that approach here, though
[12:49] <cj_> i get nothing
[12:49] <limac> anirudh0: everybody here was also a noob...well some day
[12:49] <dpreacher> will check that file n see if i could add a line there
[12:49] <Emry> abdulla, Feel lucky though.  Some of us are returners, and the linux world is a whole new place from my first time around.hehehe :P
[12:49]  * Emry is a newb... AGAIN. @.@
[12:49] <mrynit> Emry: mainframes?
[12:49] <LOWER_CASE> Re Printing Problem: is subnet mask stopping the ping going to the printer?
[12:49]  * soundray has been a linux noob for, erm, 14 years
[12:50] <Emry> mrynit, Not quite.  Ever heard of Mandrake? :P  Ever run a distro that had almost no real since of a package manager? hehehehe
[12:50] <limac> anirudh0: aren't you the guy who started the Mac4lin thingy?
[12:50] <dpreacher> soundray no .gnomerc under ~ dir.
[12:50] <davetarmac> I'm connected to a VPN but can't ping any of the machines on the remote network. COuld this be to do with the IP addresses of the remote DHCP server (and router) and my local router being the same?
[12:50] <soundray> dpreacher: create it.
[12:50] <anirudh0> limac, i beg your pardon...started?
[12:50] <mrynit> gentoo?
[12:51] <cj_> ok lets make sure im doing this right i go up and cleck on Applications then to Accessoris then to terminal correct
[12:51]  * Emry got to bootstrap a system when bootstrapping was still the normal way to do an install....
[12:51] <dpreacher> oh...but i wanted to see the syntax of the file...can u pastebin ur gnomerc file soundray?
[12:51] <anirudh0> soundray, is there a autostart directory in gnome?..In kde any program in ~/.kde/Autostart gets executed at login
[12:51] <Emry> O.o  Tryin being a newb through that.  :P  Now bootstrapping is what you do for a kick once you know your way arround. hehehehe
[12:51] <SitUbuntuSit> one more thing, how do i install a kdm theme. going to login manager in system settings doesn't have a means that i see to add a theme
[12:51] <mrynit> cj_: idk if yuo have seen this before http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[12:51] <limac> anirudh0: not sure, but in the screenshots I guess I saw your name there ;)
[12:51] <cj_> then when it open it come up as cj@cj-desktop:~$
[12:52] <generic> helo guys any way my resolv.conf file deletes on every reboot on ubuntu 8.0.4
[12:52] <pawan> hi
[12:52] <Emry> cj_, That means you are probably in your home dir.  Type cd Desktop
[12:52] <anirudh0> limac, its some other indian guy..not me though
[12:52] <limac> anirudh0: oh my bad :P
[12:52] <soundray> dpreacher: I don't have one. You just put the name of any program you want to start on a line in that file
[12:52] <pawan> should i keep old menu.lst or new
[12:53] <anirudh0> limac, i guess all indian names would sound similar if you are'nt used to them :)
[12:53] <dpreacher> soundray, there is a system wide gnomerc
[12:53] <anirudh0> pawan, new
[12:53] <afikri> hello all, i have problem with my ATI Radeon Graphics X1100. I am using ubuntu 8.04. When I try to enable ATI accelerated graphics driver, I restart, then It goes black screen. I try to google in ubuntu forum, it seems not to solve my problem. Any one have the same experience?
[12:53] <dpreacher> so i just add the program line like i would enter it in the run dialog box?
[12:53] <mepsipax> can Ubuntu can resize my NTFS partition?
[12:53] <cj_> that didnt work eather
[12:53] <anirudh0> mepsipax, no
[12:53] <soundray> dpreacher: I still suggest you create a .gnomerc in $HOME
[12:53] <Ienorand> Hia, kernel 2.6.24-17 breaks suspend for me, against what do I file bug report?
[12:53] <afikri> hello all
[12:53] <Emry> mepsipax, Look up a program called gparted.
[12:53] <pawan> it says keep local version installed
[12:53] <soundray> dpreacher: yes
[12:53] <anirudh0> mepsipax,  AFAIK even partition magic cant
[12:54] <Dr_willis> I thought Ubuntu installer once resized a NTFS for me on a friends laptop...
[12:54] <anirudh0> Emry, he said ntfs
[12:54] <Emry> mepsipax, In fact, for hard core drive moving, you may want to download the live CD
[12:54] <dpreacher> i think that will be a safe option
[12:54] <soundray> mepsipax: Ubuntu will resize your NTFS just fine
[12:54] <Emry> anirudh0, Last I checked it supported it.
[12:54] <limac> anirudh0: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=204373&ssid=73451 :)
[12:54] <soundray> anirudh0: what makes you think NTFS resizing was not supported? It has been since before dapper
[12:55] <afikri> could i ask something?
[12:55] <anirudh0> soundray, resizing or fomatting?
[12:55] <soundray> anirudh0: resizing
[12:55] <Emry> anirudh0, Resizing follows a totaly different philosophy from writing to the disk.
[12:55] <Emry> anirudh0, It can resize NTFS without destroying data.
[12:55] <qpPuMeH> can me help somebody with my trouble?? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/217562
[12:56] <markotitel> hi, Im trying to install ubunti with raid0 and almost at the end of installation I get " following package have unmet dependencies linux-generic depends linux-image-generic"
[12:56] <Emry> mepsipax, That said, DO backup anything that you don't want to lose...  I would suggest that even if you used Partition Magic or someo other commercial product.  :P
[12:56] <Kartagis> CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.<--- what do I do?
[12:56] <anirudh0> soundray, did'nt know that..the linux driver did'nt even support permissions till a while ago
[12:56] <markotitel> what am I doing wrong
[12:56] <zaputr_> before each running of file MPlayer opens then 13 seconds waits and only after 13 seconds normally run my file, log of Mplayer is here http://paste.org.ru/?lp4lvo , may be you know how to solve this problem
[12:56] <Ienorand> Hia, kernel 2.6.24-17 breaks suspend for me, against what package do I file bug report?
[12:56] <dpreacher> anirudh0: i have resized ntfs partitions without any problems with gparted
[12:56] <Emry> anirudh0, Dude, the drivers used by Gparted are NOT related to the kernel driver to mount a partition.
[12:56] <Dr_willis> zaputr_,  it may be trying the pulse audio  for its audio settings, set it to use 'alsa' and it may not wait.
[12:56] <anirudh0> limac, there a a million guys in the world called john...anirudh is'nt as popular a name in india..but then india's population is also big :)
[12:56] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, help please, Got a printer <IP_ADDRESS>, but cannot print or ping. Will ethernet in roaming mode with IP <IP_ADDRESS> subnetmask <IP_ADDRESS> prevent pinging or printing?  What can I try, please?
[12:57] <zoobox> whould it be possible to not use the acronym "DRM" for "Direct Render Manager" next time?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> zaputr_,  recall a similer delay.
[12:57] <jussi01> !bug | Ienorand
[12:57] <Insannus> how did i install beryl in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:57] <zoobox> I got ill by just thinking of the possibility of have Digital Restrictions Management in my computer.....
[12:58] <manifest__> sudo apt-get prolly
[12:58] <soundray> Insannus: don't. Use compiz-fusion. System-Preferences-Appearance-Desktop Effects
[12:58] <alexander_roo1>  Insannus: sudo apt-get install beryl )))
[12:58] <Insannus> This comand don't work here :(
[12:58] <alexander_roo1> compiz it better than beryl imho
[12:58] <aantn> hello
[12:58] <Emry> mepsipax, I would advise that you backup any important data first.  If it is your primary machine and windows HAS to boot, then concider purchasing a second physical drive.  That is just worst case scenerio talking.  Download the gparted iso, it will boot a live cd with the program.  Run it that way so that you don't have to have any drives active while you hack them up.
[12:58] <zoobox> but I guess it is too late to change the decription for the update "[Amit Kucheria] * Poulsbo: Update DRM driver to sync with moblin tree" now?
[12:58] <Dr_willis> Is Beryl oricially dead yet?
[12:58] <soundray> Insannus: what command? Please use the nick of the person you're addressing
[12:58] <Dr_willis> officially dead. :)
[12:59] <alexander_roo1> i think no
[12:59] <anirudh0> Insannus, the beryl project was merged into compiz a whole ago...hence compiz _fusion_
[12:59] <alexander_roo1> I use compiz
[12:59] <alexander_roo1> fusion
[12:59] <Myrtti> anirudh0: or comfuzion ;-)
[12:59] <jussi01> !beryl | Dr_willis
[12:59] <zoobox> (the update of linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic in ubuntu7.10 I mean)
[12:59] <alexander_roo1> !google beryl
[12:59] <Ienorand> jussi01: What package is those versions of the kernel, is it just "The Linux Kernel"
[12:59] <soundray> zoobox: DRM meant direct rendering manager long before it meant digital restrictions management
[12:59] <Emry> :P in fact, the gparted FAQ actually has a section on the whole "you can chop it but you can't write on it" thing. hehehe
[12:59] <Dr_willis> jussi01,  but is it condidered officially DEAD  :)   or are people still working on it.
[13:00] <jussi01> Ienorand: linux-image-2.24.whatever
[13:00] <Insannus> soundray, Thanks
[13:00] <alexander_roo1> Use compiz!=)
[13:00] <anirudh0> soundray, you mean digital rights management :)
[13:00] <soundray> anirudh0: no, I mean digital restrictions management
[13:00] <jussi01> Dr_willis: as the factoid says... merged with compiz - so compiz-fusionis what the beryl devs now work on (AFAIK)
[13:00] <markotitel> Anyone tried to install Ubuntu Hardy RAID0 on two USB Flash drives ?
[13:00] <soundray> anirudh0: that's what it does, it manages restrictions.
[13:01] <Dr_willis> jussi01,  thats not quite what im asking. :) but ill check out the beryl homepage and see what they say
[13:01] <alexander_roo1> No, I tried to install it on one flash
[13:01] <anirudh0> soundray, hmm..never faced it myself...get all songs and stuff off torrent
[13:01] <Emry> soundray, If you want to get technical, the people who coined the term said "Digital RIGHTS management".  Digital Restrictions was an RMS term. hehehe :P
[13:01] <soundray> anirudh0: those who babble about "digital rights" are either confused or trying to confuse you.
[13:01] <markotitel> Install on single flash works
[13:01] <alexander_roo1> yes
[13:01] <markotitel> but when set up raid
[13:01] <markotitel> it comes to
[13:02] <drkns> hello
[13:02] <zoobox> soundray: hmm.... I guess so, but anyway. but the bad dudes have stolen that acronym now :-/  (but the swastika was not a bad symbol either before hitler stole it)
[13:02] <markotitel> to the end and then
[13:02] <drkns> i have aquesion about openoffice
[13:02] <alexander_roo1> I have RAID at home desktop
[13:02] <Emry> soundray, Those who bable about digital rights are the all of the open source and free software community...  That is the entire point of the movement.  Concider your words. :P
[13:02] <markotitel> have unmet deps linux-generic depends linux-image-generic
[13:02] <alexander_roo1> Hardy works with it
[13:02] <drkns> i have a range of numbers and i need to count how many of each number in the range exists
[13:02] <anirudh0> !enter|  markotitel
[13:02] <soundray> Emry: yes, if you assign any importance to chronology, it's been "digital rights" before "digital restrictions"
[13:03] <Emry> soundray, You miss the point.  :P
[13:03] <robg_> Emry: there are a lot of digital rights wars being waged among companies in the USA.
[13:03] <markotitel> OK
[13:03] <anirudh0> soundray, you seem pretty pissed off by it though.....
[13:03] <markotitel> someon have idea what can be wrong?
[13:03] <LOWER_CASE> Kartagis, CFLAGS is just a 'variable' in the Makefile which holds flags passed to the C compiler (hence 'C' Flags).  Obviously someone came along and added EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Sometimes you can set one to be a superset of the other eg EXTRA_CFLAGS = CFLAGS option2 option3 option 4
[13:03] <soundray> Emry: I am con*s*idering my words. Sensible people don't put digital and rights together. It's aimed to create confusion
[13:04] <Insannus> Is there a programme of instant messaging or theme, with the interface similar to Windows Live? I do not like much of aMSN.
[13:04] <alexander_roo1> who here using UltraMixer?
[13:04] <alexander_roo1> =)
[13:04] <jussi01> robg_: soundray: Emry: please try to keep on the topic of ubuntu support.
[13:04] <soundray> anirudh0: I wouldn't put it that way. I do feel that my rights (not "digital rights") as a consumer are under attack .
[13:04] <Emry> soundray: Digital rights are all about copy rights.  Copy rights is what the Open Source and Free Software communities are built on.
[13:04] <soundray> jussi01: all right
[13:04] <Emry> jussi01, Sorry.
[13:05] <jussi01> You are welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic - and thanks!
[13:05] <MaximLevitsky> How can I make ubuntu not lock my screen on suspend?
[13:05] <cousin_luigi> hello
[13:05] <Emry> soundray, He is right, we were starting to edge off into the OSS vs FSF type arguments.  :P  We should probably avoid religious debate. ehhehehehe
[13:06] <cousin_luigi> after the last nvidia upgrade (I think) mplayer gets stuck and I need a ctrl+c to make it start
[13:06] <Insannus> Is there a programme of instant messaging or theme, with the interface similar to Windows Live? I do not like much of aMSN.
[13:06] <pawan> cannot run the update manger
[13:06] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, AFAIK not possible...defeats the whole purpose of suspend...someone else could come on and pose as you
[13:06] <Emry> Insannus, Look up Pidgin.
[13:06] <thepunisher> how big should a / partition be>?\
[13:06] <cousin_luigi> Insannus: what about mercury? slow but more complete
[13:06] <cousin_luigi> and yes, pidgin, but it doesn't support windows live features
[13:06] <cousin_luigi> I think
[13:07] <anirudh0> thepunisher, 6 gb is good enough...8 gb is more than good enough
[13:07] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, so what, I am the only one that uses the computer
[13:07] <thepunisher> thanks
[13:07] <Insannus> Emry, I already know this, but I would like one with Windows Live, that Mercury is good?
[13:08] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, and besides I want a opengl screen saver, but I suspect it to cause trouble
[13:08] <anirudh0> Insannus, he meant you to check out skins for pidgin i think..
[13:08] <MaximLevitsky> during suspend/resume cycle
[13:08] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, explain the last statement
[13:08] <bijur> hello all :)
[13:08] <bijur> anirudh0: u the same as anirudh1 ? if so why dont u just register ur name
[13:09] <n8ature> on centos 5.1 im running this command to install a guest OS of ubuntu:  debootstrap --arch=amd64 --include=linux-image-xen --components=main,universe,multiverse hardy /mnt/xen http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[13:09] <n8ature> im getting this error:  E: Couldn't work out current architecture
[13:09] <anirudh0> bijur, did that..on that particular day, there was an xchat process i could'nt kill
[13:09] <n8ature> anyone see that before?
[13:09] <Emry> Insannus, I don't know much about IM clients.  I used Pidgin becauseI can log into EVERYTHING at once, and it is under active development. heheheh
[13:09] <LOWER_CASE> Kartagis, then make sure that $(EXTRA_CLGAGS) is in the compile command: may look like this:>>> $(CC) -c $(ALL_CFLAGS) $< -o ../obj/$(@F) <<< $(name) is the reference to name: put $(EXTRA_CFLAGS) tin there: you may have to read about gcc compiler options to see where to put it, often it's just after the $(CC)
[13:10] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, I meant that I use opengl screensaver. but it is started before suspend, and thus display driver must cope with suspending and resuming an live 3D application
[13:10] <g[r]eek> Hi any munin users here? I have installed munin and seemingly configured it correctly yet when I go to the munin webpage, no graphs show up when I click on my hostname's link
[13:10] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, some display drivers don't cope with that
[13:10] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, sorry then...can think of anything useful
[13:10] <mwansa> heyo anyone has any ideas what this font it http://i30.tinypic.com/ivwdhc.png
[13:11] <dns53> n8ature i have not used debootstrap for years, i think you need to use i386 as the arch then make it a xen os
[13:11] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, this is just a matter of settings, I always disable that, but I forgot how I did that
[13:11] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, the problem is that ubuntu has _two_ suspend preparation systems
[13:12] <bijur> nice font
[13:12] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0 acpi-support, and pm_utils
[13:12] <mwansa> bijur, yea ;)
[13:12] <dpreacher> how do you determine the path to the fonts folder using CLI?
[13:12] <Ienorand> MaximLevitsky: To disable passwors on suspend/hibernate there should be some settings in gconf-editor: /apps/gnome-power-manager
[13:12] <jrib> dpreacher: why?
[13:12] <dpreacher> want to copy over some ttf fonts
[13:12] <LOWER_CASE> Help please, Got a printer on <IP_ADDRESS>, but cannot print or ping. Ethernet is set to Roaming Mode with IP <IP_ADDRESS> subnetmask <IP_ADDRESS> . Will that prevent pinging or printing?  What can I try, please?
[13:12] <n8ature> dns53: thanks, i am having trouble running the 32bit guest kernels on the 64bit xen dom0... is there a way to get the 64bit guest on there?
[13:12] <jrib> !fonts > dpreacher (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:12] <bijur> why dont u ask that dude andash@lapdance :D
[13:13] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, hmmm...do you know how to do a timed wakeup from suspend, or from hibernate?
[13:13] <MaximLevitsky> Ienorand, thanks a lot
[13:13] <bijur> i really really liked htis font! do lemme know if u find out
[13:13] <mwansa> bijur, sure. you hang around here much /
[13:13] <mwansa> ?*
[13:13] <bijur> mwansa: by the way check the font i am using , is quite similiar to that, u might like this one too
[13:13] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, use rtc alarm
[13:13] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, apm supports it, but the command gives an error "kernel not compiled with apm support"
[13:13] <dns53> n8ature well what i would try is use debootstrap to create install, then chroot and install the xen kernel
[13:13] <bijur> mwansa: not really, this is my 2nd or 3rd visit actually
[13:14] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, again as usual there are two rtc drivers, and ubuntu still uses the old one
[13:14] <mwansa> bijur: ohk. what font are you using ? send me a link :)
[13:14] <bijur> mwansa: try this : -*-terminal-medium-*-normal-*-14-140-75-75-*-*-*-*
[13:14] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, ,hmm..what do you mean by rtc alarm?.. i seem to have a program called rtcwake
[13:14] <mwansa> bijur, cool :D
[13:14] <bijur> mwansa: that is if u r using emacs :
[13:15] <MaximLevitsky> You have a clock in your system, right
[13:15] <n8ature> dns53: right, but dont i need to start with all the 64bit packages? not just swap out 32bit kernel for a 64bit?
[13:15] <Ienorand> Just filed a Bug #235462, is there anything more I should include in the report?
[13:15] <MaximLevitsky> It has an alarm in it since invention of PCs
[13:15] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, yes...but the point is, how do i use it :)
[13:15] <MaximLevitsky> But only on modern systems it actually can be used
[13:15] <dns53> n8ature my mistake, i did not read that you had a 64 bit install, install the 64 bit arch
[13:16] <MaximLevitsky> I mean all new systems, which can be turned on proggramly
[13:16] <MaximLevitsky> don't use rtcwake
[13:16] <cj_> Ermy im back got it dont it owrk now on to the Guild wars problem
[13:16] <n8ature> dns53: i would love to :-)  maybe debootstrap on centos 5.1 is broken for 64bit
[13:16] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, I know this clearly, and I will explain
[13:17] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, go on
[13:17] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, you write a date/time to /proc/acpi/wakeup
[13:17] <Kartagis> CFLAGS was changed in "/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.<--- what do I do?
[13:18] <n8ature> dns53: ahh.. i see debootstrap is just a shell script...
[13:18] <MaximLevitsky> and suspend/hibernate your system
[13:18] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, in what format?
[13:18] <bijur> mwansa: there?
[13:18] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, i mean...hh:mm:ss,or something else?
[13:18] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0,  read this file first, and write in same format
[13:18] <bijur> mwansa: check this link to see how terminal looks : http://grep-i.com/~glam/uploads/out/Screenshot.png
[13:19] <LOWER_CASE> Help please, printer is <IP_ADDRESS>, but cannot print or ping. Ethernet is set from ADSL modem to Roaming Mode with IP <IP_ADDRESS> subnetmask <IP_ADDRESS> . Will that prevent pinging or printing?  What can I try, please?
[13:19] <robotjox> does anyone know of an email client other than evolution that supports exchange servers?
[13:19] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, if you turn your system off, the alarm should work too, but sometimes it doesn't
[13:20] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, i'm posting my file on pastebin...http://pastebin.com/m30192b55...this does;nt seem to have an rtc entry
[13:20] <bijur> MaximLevitsky: thats a dangerouos situation isnt it? the alarm that doesnt work sometimes :D
[13:20] <bijur> mwansa: did u happen to catch the screenshot?
[13:20] <Bob24> hello
[13:20] <bijur> hello bob!
[13:20] <mwansa> bijur, yea that looks nice!. i been using something similar to that. called proggy fonts. >> http://www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download
[13:20] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, /proc/acpi/alarm
[13:20] <mwansa> bijur, looks nice :)
[13:20] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, hmm...should'nt there be a cmd line prog for this..i mean this should be a fairly routine requirement..timed wakeup that is
[13:21] <Bob24> hi could you help me with a question plz?
[13:21] <Bob24> could you please tell me how i can setup a remote to work on Mythbuntu?
[13:21] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, that has 2008-05-00 01:11:10
[13:21] <legend2440> robotjox: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/03/30/howto-thunderbird-and-ms-exchange-server/
[13:21] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, if 01:11:10 is time will wakeup, then why the date?
[13:21] <anirudh0> *till
[13:22] <bijur> mwansa: then u need to do an apt-cache search for terminus and install the three font packages you see
[13:22] <qpPuMeH> can somebody help me???
[13:22] <suriro> Is alsa driver .15 or .16 in Hardy?
[13:22] <bijur> qpPuMeH: w00t! what hapnd?
[13:22] <anirudh0> !help | qpPuMeH
[13:22] <dpreacher> if i use apt-get --download-only <package> . what do i do next time to install the package at a later time
[13:22] <qpPuMeH> bijur:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/217562
[13:22] <bijur> ubottu is a n00b
[13:22] <mwansa> bijur, i got terminus installed. im not using ubuntu tho :(
[13:22] <anirudh0> lol...who changed the factoid :D
[13:22] <_jason> dpreacher: dpkg -i (or double click on it)
[13:22] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, I am to aware of it, but even more, recent kernels have another rtc driver, which has different control file for that, and it officially doesn't support alarms from turned off state (probably untill I have enough time to send a patch to LKML for that, it is trivial)
[13:23] <bijur> qpPuMeH: oh u have logged a bug wait for it ;)
[13:23] <dns53> dpreacher it should be in /var/cache/apt/ archives
[13:23] <bijur> mwansa: what do u use?
[13:23] <dpreacher> thanks dns53 and _jason
[13:23] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, so what do you recommend in the meanwhile?
[13:23] <qpPuMeH> bijur: maybe u can help me with a solution??)
[13:23] <mwansa> bijur, a small distro called CRUX targeted at experienced user
[13:24] <bijur> qpPuMeH: i am sorry man, i dont know jack abt setting up multimedia
[13:24] <bijur> sorry
[13:24] <mwansa> bijur, i just thought someone would know the font because the guy who used it was on ubuntu ;)
[13:24] <qpPuMeH> its ok)
[13:24] <bijur> ah! so u r an experienced user ;)
[13:24] <MaximLevitsky> anirudh0, use old driver, since it works too, just write the date and time there, and from suspend/hibernate it should work
[13:24] <bijur> mwansa: just get terminus font man, it looks nice when its small
[13:24] <bijur> but i admit that font does look a bit better than terminus
[13:24] <anirudh0> MaximLevitsky, thanks..will try that out asap
[13:24] <mwansa> bijur, yea will do. Thanks alot :)
[13:24] <bijur> mwansa: ;)
[13:25] <chazco> Hi... i'm trying to convert my Ubuntu to Vista, is there a way to automatically convert .ods to .xls from Ubuntu?
[13:25] <robotjox> legend2440: thanks :)
[13:25] <hylje> hey, banshee, rhytmbox both seem incapable of playing music, tracks hang at 0:00 with no errors
[13:25] <chazco> (due to not being able to print properly, use the web, etc) :(
[13:25] <qpPuMeH> bijur: can u give me any support/help channels for ubuntu??
[13:25] <cj_> im having troble geting wine to run guild wars looking for some help if possable
[13:25] <legend2440> robotjox: yw
[13:25] <hylje> they worked before hardy upg, other sounds work fine
[13:25] <Bob24> could you please tell me how i can setup a remote to work on Mythbuntu?
[13:25] <dns53> n8ature what is your current arch? you using amd64 on your dom0
[13:25] <bijur> i like crisp fonts
[13:25] <bijur> :)
[13:26] <scunizi> chazco, openoffice works on windows too.
[13:26] <okies> hi, i have a problem to make my homepna adapter to work. i have a ADM usb to something homepna adapter
[13:26] <okies> i have tried to find the solution from my problem from ubuntu forums
[13:26] <chazco> scunizi - I cant download it currently, so need to use what I have (Office 07) to print some work
[13:26] <okies> to*
[13:27] <robg_> bijur: I blieve Sun Java is better than Windows graphics.
[13:27] <Bob24> could you please tell me how i can setup a remote to work on Mythbuntu?
[13:27] <scunizi> chazco, ##windows
[13:27] <GottaBeAndrew> i'm wanting to run windows xp as a virtual machine inside ubuntu. where can i find a tutorial on how to do this?
[13:27] <henkpoley> Any people here using the Dell remaster utility (DRU) ?
[13:27] <n8ature> dns53: my dom0 is 64bit centos5.1.  there is an example of what i am trying to do here.  step 3 uses debootstrap to install ubuntu in this way:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630886
[13:27] <chazco> Ah :( Was hoping I could convert on Ubuntu, usually quicker for this sort of thing. Thanks anyway.
[13:27] <xd_> i have formated a new hd, how can I make that visible in the file browser, without rrestarting the system ?
[13:27] <markotitel> hm
[13:28] <xd_> reload does not make it
[13:28] <philsf> chazco: doesn't office have a plugin to import ODF files?
[13:28] <anirudh0> xd_, mount it..look up man mount
[13:28] <markotitel> i cant find link for the alternative cds ubuntu hardy
[13:28] <chazco> Will check back later to see if anyone can help me fix Firefox and OO
[13:28] <Emry> chazco, you will pretty much have to load each file and resave it.
[13:28] <chazco> philsf - Nope :(
[13:28] <chazco> Ah, pity
[13:28] <philsf> chazco: it should have, have you checked microsoft website?
[13:28] <xd_> anirudh0, I just tried that, I can mount it, but its not accessible via File browser than, just in the terminal
[13:28] <bijur> robg_: why do u tell that to me? did i say no?
[13:28] <chazco> philsf - There is a plugin for Word iirc, not Excel
[13:29] <robg_> bijur: it is simply the best available.
[13:29] <anirudh0> xd_, ? go to the directory via Ctrl+L
[13:29] <chazco> Is Gusty still available? That worked at least
[13:29] <bijur> robg_: live long with the Sun my son!
[13:29] <bijur> robg_: let the force be with you.
[13:29] <Kartagis> how do I add init scripts to startup?
[13:29] <anirudh0> chazco, all previous versions are there on the servers
[13:29] <Dr_willis> !upstart | Kartagis
[13:29] <robg_>  bijur: I am not in love with Sun, but I have experience with both.
[13:29] <bijur> Kartagis: aah i had a document on that
[13:30] <chazco> Ah good, will try to get that on public wiif later, thansk anirudh0 :)
[13:30] <anirudh0> bijur, i believe someone has hijacked robg_'s irc id
[13:30] <Dr_willis> Kartagis,  i tend to be lazy and just runs tuff from rc.local
[13:30] <okies> does anyone have any advice what i should do with the homepna adapter? :|
[13:30] <philsf> chazco: google is your friend
[13:30] <bijur> anirudh0: oh, haha, it was funny why he was telling me abt java
[13:30] <bijur> anirudh0: haha
[13:30] <xd_> anirudh0, yes I can do that, but still its not accessible unless I change Owner of the Disk, If I restart the File Browser Connects automaticly to it, I want to Force that thing
[13:30] <[GUN]Wires> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/05/27/space.toilet.ap/index.html hahahaha
[13:30] <robg_> anirudh0: I am getting much higher default resolutions and windows are not walking of my screen.
[13:30] <markotitel> can someone give mi link to alternative isos for ubuntu
[13:31] <philsf> chazco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_applications_supporting_OpenDocument#Third_party_support:_Three_ODF_plug-ins_for_Microsoft_Office
[13:31] <chimp> When i run firefox 3, it causes my computer to totally freeze instantly, is there some way i can try to work out why, and how to fix it?
[13:31] <philsf> (darn)
[13:31] <bijur> robg_: damn u u bot!
[13:31] <xd_> I just want to make it appear like all the other Diks in File Browser, There must be somthin I can force FileBrowser to see it like the other disks without restarting
[13:31] <anirudh0> robg_, out of respect for you, i will not answer that question
[13:31] <SitUbuntuSit> !kdm
[13:31] <markotitel> Hardy alternative cd is not working or I have wrong version
[13:31] <anirudh0> xd_, you ,mean computer:/// ?
[13:31]  * bijur runs around roundhouse kicks robg_ :D
[13:32] <GottaBeAndrew> i'm wanting to run windows xp as a virtual machine inside ubuntu. where can i find a tutorial on how to do this?
[13:32] <robg_> anirudh0: AERO on Vista is a disaster.
[13:32] <mwansa> bijur, im gonna head back to my teritory but im always on freenode if you find out that font :)
[13:32] <anirudh0> GottaBeAndrew, wiki.ubuntu.com...search there
[13:32] <hylje> music players (banshee and rhytmbox) stop playing music at 0:00, no errors. other sounds work fine, google doesn't seem to help with my keywords
[13:32] <GottaBeAndrew> .list
[13:32] <philsf> anyone knows why does ubuntu stick with debian information in /etc/debian_version?
[13:32] <scunizi> chimp, mv /home/<username>/.mozilla /home/<username>/.mozilla.backup .. now restart FF and see if it works
[13:33] <xd_> anirudh0, nope I mean Physical HD s in the System. I can Mount the HD in the Terminal or in anyway, but the File Browser Does not see the Disk Unless i Go there with ctrl + L  , But its not in the Medialist on the Left Side, where I want to have it
[13:33] <chimp> ta scunizi lets find out if i crash
[13:33] <rabidweezle> Every boot I need to manually modprobe i8k for my fan control on my dell laptop, is there a way to set it to do this at boot?
[13:34] <anirudh0> xd_, afaik nautilus shows up what hal reports...so it might mean hal is not reporting you drive..no idea why that might happen
[13:34] <xd_> anirudh0, but more anyoing is that I have to chmod and Chown the whole disk. I wont have to do it when Its recognized by the file browser
[13:34] <xd_> anirudh0, can I force HAL to report it
[13:34] <rabidweezle> isn't there a way to set which modules load with the kernel at boot?
[13:34] <renie> haiii
[13:34] <xd_> anirudh0, or reread the list
[13:35] <bijur> if u were an admin at the mud, u can type force hal report
[13:35] <rabidweezle> oooh, we talking about muds?
[13:35] <bijur> hal reports 1290 hp 2299 mana 199mv
[13:35] <xd_> haha :-)
[13:35] <bijur> rabidweezle: hehe just a small mud nut
[13:35] <rabidweezle> me too
[13:35] <xd_> no mud
[13:35] <rabidweezle> I just started again
[13:35] <bijur> haha me too
[13:35] <rabidweezle> thanks to gnome-mud
[13:35] <bijur> rabidweezle: where do u mud?
[13:35] <rabidweezle> umm, lemme see
[13:35] <anirudh0> xd_, i'm sure you can...but i dont know how
[13:36] <bijur> rabidweezle: i use mudix, been using that since i started mudding a long time back
[13:36] <xd_> anirudh0, Ok , Restart seems to be easier :-)
[13:36] <rabidweezle> I mud at Achaea, Dreams of Divine Lands
[13:36] <rabidweezle> awesome mud
[13:36] <xd_> strange mud
[13:36] <bijur> aah, i used to mud at willowhaven, thats blown to the dust and with it my char, so i started a mud of me own
[13:36] <xd_> allmighty mud
[13:36] <bijur> just starting out now
[13:36] <n8ature> dns53: looks like a bug in centos 5.1 debootstrap... found a work around.... "debootstrap --arch amd64
[13:36] <anirudh0> to someone who does'nt know what mud is, the conversation is hilarious :D
[13:36] <chimp> that worked scunizi cheers, that had been really pissing me off
[13:37] <bijur> Achaea, is that purely role playing?
[13:37] <anirudh0> assuming the simplest meaning of mud
[13:37] <rabidweezle> I find muds these days are more addictive than any mmo
[13:37] <dave12> which folderts will you sync og ubuntu if you have two ubunut pc and you want sync one of them with the other?
[13:37] <xd_> fight for your mud
[13:37] <scunizi> chimp, glad to hear it.. went through it myself with an upgrade.
[13:37] <bijur> anirudh0: hehe
[13:37] <n8ature>  dns53:  oops.. "debootstrap --arch amd64" worked.. but "debootstrap --arch=amd64"  produces that error
[13:37] <legend2440> rabidweezle: add the module to /etc/modules file
[13:37] <rabidweezle> thanks legend
[13:38] <bazzieb> i have downloaded the 8.04 alt cd to upgrade from 7.10, is there anything special i should know or is it a smooth upgrade?
[13:38] <dns53> n8ature aah, those little inconsistencies mess things up
[13:38] <bijur> muds have somehow being phased out by wow, secondlife etc, but muds still have their charm
[13:38] <lw0x15> can i make a "key" to the home dir ?
[13:38] <rabidweezle> Perfect, all done, that was easy legend2440
[13:38] <scunizi> bazzieb, do you have a separate /home?
[13:38] <Emry> lw0x15, You can set the permissions so that no one can see it except for the owner.
[13:38] <bazzieb> no
[13:39] <robg_> bazzieb: Alternate is a single boot install.
[13:39] <lw0x15> Emry, i mean like a hotkey
[13:39] <rabidweezle> It surprised the hell out of me how fun a mud is, concidering I haven't really ever gotten into them
[13:39] <bijur> s/muds have/muds are/
[13:39] <bazzieb> i was told i need to use that to upgrade
[13:39] <Emry> lw0x15, Ah.  :P I am sure there is probably a way. hehe
[13:39] <hylje> oh, it was just pulseaudio acting up
[13:40] <scunizi> bazzieb, ouch.. upgrade with cd works I think with the alternate cd.. you may end up with some issues though.. consider making a separate partition for /home or backing up /home
[13:40] <onemorestop> lw0x15, keyboard shortcut ?
[13:40] <lw0x15> yes
[13:41] <dpreacher> is there a way to list packages installed with apt(itude) on a datetime-descending order?
[13:41] <bazzieb> scunizi: ok cool, will do, cause i just managed to get my file shares and all my apps working to how i like, so i cant afford to waist time fixing it all again
[13:42] <robg_> bazzieb: my advise is: write all your files to CD. Start installer with live internet connection. Pick LVM Encrypted mode.
[13:42] <scunizi> bazzieb, always better to have a separate /home just in case you need to reinstall fresh you still  have all your data
[13:42] <onemorestop> lw0x15, you mean open your personal folder with file browser ?
[13:42] <Kartagis> do I need upstart?
[13:42] <fiyawerx> dpreacher: i'm pretty sure apt logs its installs somewhere, if you can find the log file, a regular grep should do that
[13:42] <dpreacher> uh huh
[13:43] <microwaver> Hello, can anyone tell me which device I've got reading following lshw output : product: BCM4310 USB Controller
[13:44] <lw0x15> onemorestop, see --> Mod4 r :ExecCommand fbrun <--- i wonder if i can launch my home dir or any dir like that with a shortcut
[13:44] <onemorestop> lw0x15, is that fluxbox ?
[13:45] <Kartagis> do I need upstart if i want to add services to start-up or is there an easier way like rc-update on gentoo?
[13:45] <bazzieb> cool thanks guys
[13:45] <lw0x15> onemorestop, yep
[13:45] <jrib> Kartagis: the easy way is to install things with APT?  What are you trying to add?
[13:46] <robg_> bazzieb: One other thing. Don't mess with the install process.
[13:46] <dpreacher> cat aptitude | grep [INSTALL]    is this not the right way to find only those lines that show which packages have been freshly installed. it is showing the entire file contents
[13:46] <Kartagis> jrib: apache, mysql server and alsa-utils
[13:46] <jrib> dpreacher: grep [INSTALL] matches anything with an I, N, S, T, A, or L in it
[13:47] <dpreacher> oh how do i escape the brackets?
[13:47] <kelvin911> how setup usb bluetooth in hardy?
[13:47] <Kartagis> dpreacher: \[
[13:47] <jrib> Kartagis: those are all in the repositories
[13:47] <dpreacher> thanks Kartagis
[13:47] <onemorestop> lw0x15, exec your file browser application with a name of the directory
[13:47] <microwaver> Hello, can anyone tell me which device I've got reading following lshw output : product: BCM4310 USB Controller
[13:48] <Kartagis> jrib: I know, I just want to add them to startup
[13:48] <bazzieb> lol, ok, i am still a Linux beginner so i usually dont interfere with much
[13:48] <onemorestop> kelvin911, just plug it in :)
[13:48] <jrib> Kartagis: they are automatically added when you install them
[13:48] <lw0x15> onemorestop, ok ill try
[13:48] <dpreacher> cat aptitude | grep \[INSTALL\] this is not working still...all file gets output
[13:48] <kelvin911> i plug it in then what?
[13:48] <onemorestop> lw0x15, in gnome you might set you keyboard shortcut
[13:48] <robg_> bazzieb: just fill in the required info, pick LVM Encrypted (4th option) and go for a walk.
[13:48] <Metatron> which repository might have old versions of icewm and xdm?
[13:48] <jrib> dpreacher: grep '\[INSTALL\]' probably
[13:49] <kelvin911> my phone cant connect it
[13:49] <dpreacher> let me try
[13:49] <remoteCTR1> can ubuntu do full hd?
[13:49] <onemorestop> kelvin911, gnome-bluetooth ?
[13:49] <kelvin911> onemorestop: i think so
[13:49] <dpreacher> perfect
[13:49] <dpreacher> :)
[13:49] <jayson> Hello people, I'm trying to find a solution to pulseaudio + wine without kill pulseaudio. Anyone know about that ?
[13:49] <onemorestop> kelvin911, have you install it ?
[13:49] <kelvin911> onemorestop: Bluetooth Applet 0.25
[13:50] <dpreacher> but i got only the aptitude log...now to find the apt-get log
[13:50] <bazzieb> sweet, thanks very much
[13:50] <Kartagis> oh, I didn't know that. thanks jrib
[13:50] <scunizi> remoteCTR1, full hd? what do you mean
[13:50] <jrib> jayson: I have sound in wine without doing anything special.  In any case, look at padsp
[13:50] <kelvin911> onemorestop: when i plug in the bluetooth in windows i can see blue light flashing but not in hardy
[13:50] <kelvin911> onemorestop: do i need drivers ?
[13:51] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: high density tv, like 1080p playing blue rays and transporting it to a full hd tv
[13:51] <jayson> jrib, I have tried padsp and nothing is happening. Did you made any config in wine ?
[13:51] <onemorestop> kelvin911, dpkg -l | grep bluetooth ?
[13:51] <jrib> jayson: no, I don't even use padsp
[13:51] <traveler_2030> how to install tar.gz?
[13:51] <jayson> jrib, Maybe I need reinstall my pulseaudio ?
[13:51] <kelvin911> onemorestop: ii  libbluetooth2                              3.29-0ubuntu1                                      Library to use the BlueZ Linux Bluetooth sta
[13:52] <onemorestop> kelvin911, apt-get install gnome-bluetooth
[13:52] <jrib> jayson: reinstall rarely helps anything, that's a windows mindset
[13:52] <scunizi> remoteCTR1, so  you want know if ubuntu can play a hd dvd? if you have blueray player installed.. will it connect to a large screen .. yep..
[13:52] <kelvin911> onemorestop: the one in System doesnt work?
[13:52] <onemorestop> kelvin911, it works
[13:53] <onemorestop> kelvin911, but you still need gnome-bluetooth
[13:53] <soundray> traveler_2030: what are you trying to install?
[13:53] <scunizi> remoteCTR1, you also have to realize that most commercial dvd's have protection. You'll have to load the decoder..
[13:54] <zathras_laptop> anyone got suggestions for getting automount working again with 8.04?
[13:54] <zathras_laptop> since i upgraded it hasn't worked on any usb device - fat32 or ext2 or ext3
[13:54] <onemorestop> kelvin911, i least i do need gnome-bluetooth to send file to my mobilephone :)
[13:54] <zathras_laptop> device is detected and appears in /dev ok, gnome-mount -vtd works, but why n automatic mounting?
[13:55] <jayson> jrib: I have a lot of changes in /etc/pulseaudio and /etc/asound.conf. Maybe that destroyed my configs.
[13:55] <Kartagis> jrib: is alsa-utils added to start-up too? how can I verify this?
[13:55] <legend2440> microwaver: not sure i understand your question but  BCM4310 USB Controller is a Broadcom wireless network card
[13:55] <kelvin911> onemorestop: ok, i install gnome-bluetooth now what?
[13:56] <kelvin911> i still get nothing in Bluetooth Preferences
[13:56] <microwaver> legend2440, I know but there are 3 choices of driver. but I'm going to see if I can ndisgtk the one I have
[13:56] <onemorestop> kelvin911, check your menu
[13:56] <jrib> kelvin911: that I'm not sure about.  You can see what it installs with 'dpkg -L PACKAGE'
[13:57] <lw0x15> how can i remove gnome, xfce and pekwm ? lol and just keep fluxbox
[13:59] <Kartagis> jrib: is alsa-utils added to start-up too? how can I verify this?
[13:59] <jrib> Kartagis: did you see my last response?
[13:59] <kelvin911> how do i know if the usb bluetooth is working?
[13:59] <Kartagis> Kartagis: they are automatically added when you install them <--- this?
[14:00] <jrib> kelvin911: that I'm not sure about.  You can see what it installs with 'dpkg -L PACKAGE'
[14:00] <kelvin911> jrib: Package `package' is not installed.
[14:01] <jrib> kelvin911: PACKAGE is the actual name of your package
[14:02] <philsf>
[14:02] <kelvin911> the thing is when i plug in the bluetooth i got the bluetooth icon, but i can not detect any bluetooth device
[14:03] <The_Gentleman> hi
[14:03] <kebsood> can anyone recommend speech recognition software?
[14:03] <Fome> I Have some sound issues in my newly installed Hardy. Totemplayer won't play the sound on either mp3 or avi files. Amarok can play mp3's fine. And youtube etc also works. I have installed all the gstreamer codecs etc
[14:03] <beyta> The_Gentleman: hi The_Gentleman
[14:04] <sparkyy> Hello all
[14:04] <robg_> Fome: medibuntu.org
[14:04] <The_Gentleman> is there anyone else who has probs using pidgin?
[14:04] <The_Gentleman> It doesn't connect to icq anymore
[14:04] <zathras_laptop> anyone run across "GConf Error: Bad key or directory name: "/system/storage/default_options/(null)/fstype_override": `(' is an invalid character in key/directory names" when trying to mount sub devices?
[14:05] <sparkyy> I have a sound preferences problem, I went into Systems, Preferences and Sound and then unselected the Startup sound.  When I reboot it still does it!
[14:05] <scunizi> The_Gentleman, use xchat for IRC.. pidgin works but is cumbersom
[14:05] <sparkyy> It really wants to play that drum.  I guess....
[14:05] <The_Gentleman> not irc, icq
[14:05] <microwaver> scunizi, he's talking about ICQ
[14:05] <ChaosTheory_> Use irssi + Bitlbee. ^^;
[14:06] <scunizi> microwaver, missed that.. opps
[14:06] <kelvin911> icq is dead
[14:06] <sparkyy> think there is a bug in the sound config tool
[14:06] <Fome> w32codecs is already the newest version
[14:06] <microwaver> scunizi, no point. being spelling nazi atm, cause I can't help the fella out.
[14:06] <victoroth> ROCK
[14:06] <beyta> The_Gentleman: Oh i use pidgin.. but i only use YM.. I have no experience for ICQ
[14:07] <The_Gentleman> thx kelvin
[14:07] <testola> What kind of themes should i download for hardy ? metacity/compiz advanced desktop effects are not enabled..
[14:07] <sparkyy> therre willl be no spellting err0rs!
[14:07] <beyta> kelvin911: ICQ is dead?
[14:07] <microwaver> The_Gentleman, that was a way of saying = people don't use it anymore. :) not as in it isn't working anymore
[14:07] <The_Gentleman> @ university my JIMM (ICQ-client 4 mobile phone) didn't work either
[14:08] <sparkyy> I have a sound preferences problem, I went into Systems, Preferences and Sound and then unselected the Startup sound.  When I reboot it still does it!
[14:08] <Fome> could it be a problem with pulseaudio or something?
[14:08] <sparkyy> Can anyone validate that they see this too?
[14:08] <pdub> need some help please guys/gals.  i recently installed ubuntu hardy through xp (WUBI) and now i am having a hell of a time getting the xp partition to show up.  Ive gotten the partition to mount once, but can't remember the command
[14:09] <joshuafr> hi all
[14:09] <The_Gentleman> @microwaver: The login-server seems to be offline or sth. like this
[14:09] <robg_> sparkyy: walk through the desktop and find the right place to set sounds.
[14:09] <Speckal> I just did the updates from ubuntu repos and it borked my gnome.  right after I login with gdm, my entire screen goes white. I have a mouse cursor, but nothing else.  help please :)
[14:09] <sparkyy> robg_, I did do it in the right place.  The config doesn't take properly and might be a bug
[14:10] <sparkyy> robg_, Systems>>Preferences>> Sounds
[14:10] <beyta> Guys, why i type 3 or 4 letters of nickname here and pres tab but not appear the full nickname, but appear some word on the chat screen?
[14:10] <__chris> I'm using 64bit 6.10 - PHP is 5.1.6 via aptitude - is this the latest stable?  Whats the cleanest / nicest way to get to PHP 5.2?
[14:10] <anirudh0> hi...i need to set up spell checking in french...i have a normal gnome session with the normal english locale..but i need to set it up so that if i type a mail in frech, spell checking is enabled
[14:10] <robg_> sparkyy: use the windowing interface to set sounds.
[14:10] <sparkyy> ?
[14:10] <anirudh0> is there any way short of creating another user with the french locale?
[14:11] <ubuntu> giorno a tutti
[14:11] <Speckal> I have hardy 8.10. I just did the updates from ubuntu repos and it borked my gnome.  right after I login with gdm, my entire screen goes white. I have a mouse cursor, but nothing else.  help please :)
[14:11] <Mabo> ciao
[14:11] <sparkyy> robg_, wha?  I don't understand
[14:11] <The_Gentleman> problem spotted...
[14:11] <microwaver> ubuntu come e va
[14:11] <Mabo> bene grazie e tu ?
[14:11] <ChaosTheory_> Can screen split vertically?
[14:11] <sparkyy> Ubuntu va bene
[14:11] <beyta> Speckal: How u update ur ubuntu?
[14:11] <microwaver> Mabo, bene com tu :D
[14:12] <mf0102> hej
[14:12] <Mabo> lol
[14:12] <sparkyy> lol
[14:12] <al-maisan> is "apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" supposed to work on hardy heron?
[14:12] <joshuafr> I try to install Hardy on a DELL PowerEdge 1600SC with a Adaptec aic7xxx controller and a CERC ATA/100 megaraid RAID controller. Theses devices seems to be loaded during to fisrt install stage, but the installer complains it doesn't find harddisk!!! What can I do?
[14:12] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  you mean screen - the tool to multiplex terminals.. I dont think it can.
[14:12] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Oh, okay.
[14:12] <beyta> Speckal: ??
[14:12] <al-maisan> when I try that I get a long list of packages with unmet dependencies
[14:12] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  for the Console, you could try 'twin' it has sort of a text based window manager  for terminals
[14:13] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: I don't know how to use it.
[14:13] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  use what?
[14:13] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Is it supposed to start up with a mouse?
[14:13] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: twin
[14:13] <beyta> joshuafr: the problem also happen on some Compaq and Acer laptop... Try check your system from boot..
[14:13] <Mabo> bye bye
[14:13] <Dr_willis> go to the console, login, run 'twin'
[14:13] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  I think you need to have gpm enabled/running also for twin to work right
[14:13] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Yes, I only run xfce4-terminal in ratpoison.
[14:14] <joshuafr> beyta: what do you mean?
[14:14] <beyta> joshuafr: maybe it disable ur hard disk to format..
[14:14] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: I have gpm installed.
[14:14] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: How do I enable it?
[14:14] <al-maisan> anybody running KDE4 on hardy heron ..?
[14:14] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  last i tried. 'twin' did not work properly under X.     its better for the console.
[14:14] <jscinoz> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on my eeepc, and i asked this question in #eeepc but got no help, basically I've made the usb bootable disk, but no matter what i do, the eeepc just has a flashing cursor and flashing activity light on the usb stick, this happens regardless of whether i make the usb stick installer with unetbootin, isotostick.sh or manually, any ideas?
[14:14] <joshuafr> beyta: you speak about the DELL RAID utilities?
[14:14] <kelvin911> guys i have this usb bluetooth, how do i check if it works in ubuntu? http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-92-3-rocketfish-bluetooth-20-edr-class-ii-wireless-usb-adapter.aspx
[14:14] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Okay, let me detach and try from there.
[14:14] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  and by 'console' i mean the alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 consoles. Not X terminal consoles. :)
[14:14] <sarmisak> al-maisan: yes, install kubuntu-desktop and then kde4
[14:14] <adac> are 512 RAM and about 700 MB swap enough for ubuntu?
[14:15] <sarmisak> adac: more than enough :D
[14:15] <slushpuppy\> Hi, how do I pass file parameters to the file i am running with wine?
[14:15] <al-maisan> sarmisak: thanks!
[14:15] <sarmisak> adac: I am running a local server with that config on a sempron ;)
[14:15] <jmgardn2> sarmisak: that's why I love linux
[14:15] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Yes, I know.
[14:15] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: It works. ^^;
[14:15] <beyta> joshuafr: sori i do not know about Dell... but on Compaq, i enter boot by F8 and have one menu that disable my hard disk from editing.. after i enable, the disk was detect...
[14:16] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: So what's the advantage of this over screen?
[14:16] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Also, does it support keybindings?
[14:16] <joshuafr> beyta: ok, I'm going to look at that. Thanks
[14:16] <Speckal> beyta:  with the auto-update icon
[14:16] <jmgardn2> joshuafr: I've worked with ubuntu on dell laptops and might be able to help. what's your issue?
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> slushpuppy\  /join #winehq
[14:16] <Speckal> beyta:  the update manager tool
[14:16] <sarmisak> kelvin911: plug it in?
[14:16] <beyta> Speckal: what do u mean?
[14:17] <kelvin911> sarmisak: i plug it in already
[14:17] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  try it and see. its more of a 'window manager' thing. you can have overlappiong windows, and a clock, and so forth. its not commonly used. but its handy at times.
[14:17] <kelvin911> sarmisak: cant find my cell
[14:17] <Speckal> beyta:  the little icon in the tray that tells you when updates are available
[14:17] <sarmisak> kelvin911: or much better idea, open a term window and type 'less /var/log/syslog'
[14:17] <kelvin911> sarmisak: and my cell cant find the computer
[14:17] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  think 'text based window manager for the console' :)
[14:17] <sarmisak> kelvin911: then plug out, plug in and watch the syslog
[14:17] <slushpuppy\> Thanks Jack_Sparrow.
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:17] <beyta> Speckal: where? i use Xchat..
[14:17] <sarmisak> kelvin911: should find a driver first
[14:17] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: sorry man i had an important phone call... so you are sure about that full hd capabilities, yes? (never mind the copy protection i know how to fix that)
[14:17] <pdub> hi guys was hoping you could help, i recently installed ubuntu 8.04 hardy through windows xp (WUBI) and have since been unable to mount XP permanently, anyone have any suggestions?
[14:17] <kelvin911> ?
[14:18] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Great.
[14:18] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Will I be able to run links2 -g here?
[14:18] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  at one time i was trying to figurure out how to do irssi in multi windows under twin. :) never did get it right.
[14:18] <Speckal> my X screen goes completely white and it might be compiz... if I switch to a different vterm (ctrl+alt+f2, for ex), and type   export DISPLAY=:0.0; metacity --replace &    it doesn't work... what am I missing?
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> pdub Read the faq on the wubi wiki.. Sorry for the vague answer but I wont use or recommend wubi
[14:18] <Speckal> beyta:  sorry, what's the question?
[14:19] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  links -g would use the framebuffer console.     if you have the framebuffer enabled it should work on the console.
[14:19] <jmgardn2> pdub: there will always be some hard times always mounting an ntfs partition.  sometimes it needs to be force mounted because of the way windows handles the ntfs logfiles
[14:19] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: I was unable to run links2 -g in normal tty before.
[14:19] <tvisto> hi, i know its ubuntu server but i have nowhere to ask: how can i insert image in Joomla manually: [img]x.jpg[/img] does not work :(, thanks for help!!!
[14:19] <nevill_>  notebook is so slow sometimes...for example when i start amarok the disk loads and loads and loads and makes all slow that I can't work anymore :(
[14:19] <benistar> hi, are there currently ICQ problems with LICQ/PIDGIN?
[14:19] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  i would guess that you dident have the framebuffer enabled.
[14:19] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Like what? Viewing each channel separately?
[14:19] <aguitel> i am looking for the best linux distro for old laptop (pentium 2 64 ram memory)
[14:19] <kelvin911> sarmisak: the system log is so huge
[14:20] <kelvin911> sarmisak: where to start?
[14:20] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: How do I enable it?
[14:20] <Frogzoo> nevill_: how much memory?
[14:20] <Le^stat> can you guys help me with squid?
[14:20] <raytruz`> What can I do when I cannot play a sound in flash at the same time as a sound from Totem?
[14:20] <sarmisak> kelvin911: push SHIFT+F
[14:20] <raytruz`> I have to close one or the other to play a sound.
[14:20] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  see the !framebuffer factoid. I alwyas disale the framebuffer.
[14:20] <Frogzoo> aguitel: dsl maybe
[14:20] <Frogzoo> aguitel: also, puppy linux
[14:20] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  it can cause 'issues' :)
[14:20] <raytruz`> Is this a bug in firefox or somewhere else?
[14:20] <bad_image> ! xus utnubu !
[14:20] <robg_> aguitel: you would have to boot one from CD-ROM to see if all hardware is detected.
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel We dont do polls in here and with only 64 meg nothing Ubuntu will work except maybe a minimal install..
[14:20] <nevill_> Frogzoo: 512 RAM about 700 swap ...my nick was adac before. i got disconnected
[14:20] <Dr_willis> aguitel,  PuppyLinux is a handy tool to have on a live cd. :)
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> aguitel try distrowatch.com
[14:20] <kelvin911> sarmisak: ??
[14:21] <beyta> Speckal: i ask why when i type 3 or 4 letters for the nick here and i press tab button, the nick not finish, but appear some word that i also do not understand on my xchat...
[14:21] <benistar> try debian if you only have 64meg
[14:21] <kelvin911> sarmisak: what am i trying to do here?
[14:21] <Le^stat> can you guys help me with squid?
[14:21] <Frogzoo> nevill_: if you're careful, and don't open too many apps at once, you should be ok
[14:21] <sarmisak> kelvin911: you are watching the log go by
[14:21] <kelvin911> sarmisak: what log?
[14:21] <nevill_> benistar: I think there are general icq problems today
[14:21] <Steve-cal> pdub: Did you try that line that STSX gave you yesterday to add to your /etc/fstab?
[14:21] <sarmisak> kelvin911: plug out and then replug your usb dongle
[14:21] <jmgardn2> also don't plan on using X with only 64 megs...might not be very nice
[14:21] <Frogzoo> Le^stat: we don't know
[14:21] <aguitel> thanks
[14:22] <Industrial> How do I input apt-cache output to e.g. less? I know vim can do it with "|vim -" but less is simpler and also supports searching.
[14:22] <benistar> nevill_, thank you.. you saved my day.. licq just bitches around and pidgin tells me wrong password - perhaps they changed the encoding
[14:22] <ChaosTheory_> !framebuffer
[14:22] <Speckal> I have hardy 8.10. I just did the updates from ubuntu repos and it borked my gnome.  right after I login with gdm, my entire screen goes white. I have a mouse cursor, but nothing else.  help please :)
[14:22] <benistar> Industrial, 2&>1
[14:22] <Le^stat> The following error was encountered:
[14:22] <Le^stat>     * Connection to xxx.xxx.xxx.xx Failed
[14:22] <Le^stat> The system returned:
[14:22] <Le^stat>     (110) Connection timed out
[14:22] <nevill_> benistar: have same problems with kopete so I think this is icq problem
[14:22] <FloodBot3> Le^stat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <Le^stat> soz
[14:22] <benistar> nevill_, so probably a encoding change.. AOL sucks damnit
[14:22] <bad_image> ! xus utnubu !
[14:22] <Le^stat> its a squid error
[14:22] <rockenrola> /msg ubottu etiquette
[14:23] <Frogzoo> Le^stat: can you ping the remote server?
[14:23] <kelvin911> sarmisak: ?
[14:23] <Industrial> benistar: uh that just cans the output into nothingness... not into less :P
[14:23] <Le^stat> nope
[14:23] <jrib> bad_image: please don't play with the bot
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Le^stat Use the pastebin
[14:23] <bad_image> jrib, what bot?
[14:23] <Le^stat> whats a pastebin?
[14:23] <nevill_> benistar: yeah could be! and yes: use jabber instead ;)
[14:23] <raytruz`> Will someone else try to play a youtube video and a mp3 at the same time... I was able to do this before I upgraded to 8.04.
[14:23] <jrib> bad_image: okay, please stay on topic then (ubuntu support)
[14:23] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: sorry man i had an important phone call... so you are sure about that full hd capabilities, yes? (never mind the copy protection i know how to fix that)
[14:23] <bad_image> jrib, alright
[14:24] <sarmisak> kelvin911: I'm trying to be certain that your usb dongle is working
[14:24] <jrib> !pastebin > Le^stat (read the private message from ubottu)
[14:24] <nevill_> Frogzoo: hmm that is not so easy not to open to many apps...as they are all so really nice :)
[14:24] <kelvin911> sarmisak: it is working in windows
[14:24] <bad_image> jrib, read that from right to left :-D I was just joking
[14:24] <sarmisak> kelvin911: I'm sure about it, but not in Linux right? so you have to find out if it is known to linux by watching the syslog
[14:25] <nevill_> Frogzoo: but you think this is a RAM problem and not a hardsik issue?
[14:25] <jrib> bad_image: ): was i
[14:25] <kelvin911> sarmisak: i dont understand those log
[14:25] <new2linux> how to get packages from the website?
[14:25] <jrib> new2linux: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:26] <new2linux> jrib: thanks
[14:26] <Le^stat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15321/
[14:26] <Le^stat> squid help required
[14:26] <Industrial> How do I search for local packages? I am used to archlinux's pacman and I'd like to search through packages that I have installed.
[14:26] <bad_image> jrib, doog, ko
[14:26] <Industrial> (with apt)
[14:26] <kelvin911> sarmisak: part of the log ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1032072
[14:27] <jmgardn3> Anyone have a solution to the "Nautilus cannot handle ________: locations." bug?  Happens whenever I try to do anything in nautilus (computer, network, burn, etc)
[14:27] <scunizi> remoteCTR1, the capabilities are with the player and codecs available..maybe others can answer the question more susynctly (sp?) and with better insight.. my thoght is the machine can drive a large screen and you just need the blueray player and codecs to complete the picture.
[14:27] <Frogzoo> nevill_: if disk is failing, you'll see scsi timeouts in /var/log/messages - but I think it's just low memory
[14:28] <new2linux> i need gstreamer extra plugins and i've search for it and came out with many packages. which one should i pick for the gstreamer package?
[14:29] <gizmokaka> hello everyone
[14:29] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: that is a fine guess but ia ma afraid its not that easy, see there are more graphics adapters that can transport a 1920x1080 resolution, even my very old nvidia 6600gt can do that but only adapters beginning with 8800gt are capable of working out a full hd signal
[14:29] <unr3a1> AaronH: whats up...
[14:29] <pdub> Steve-cal i couldn't remember the line for the life of me and i never restarted so i had the partition all day yesturday
[14:29] <gizmokaka> to which groups should i add a regular user in order for it to be able to run servers that open sockets?
[14:29] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_Willis: Do you know how I can get the tty font to be used in a terminal emulator?
[14:30] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: so just to be able to produce the resolution wont do the job...
[14:30] <HardyHuman> what is the command on freenode to map the server list?
[14:30] <HardyHuman> if anyone knows
[14:30] <HardyHuman> :)
[14:30] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  theres a console tool to set the fonts.   I forget its name however.
[14:30] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Well, I have a script to install fonts.
[14:30] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: I just dont know where to get the console font.
[14:30] <Steve-cal> pdub: Well did you change your /etc/fstab or no?
[14:30] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  the 'console' uses a totally different kindof font then X does.
[14:30] <ompaul> HardyHuman, freenode.net has all that stuff documented
[14:30] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: :(
[14:31] <In-Sane``> hello all :)
[14:31] <sarmisak> kelvin911: you might consider buying another dongle
[14:31] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  use 'locate consolefont' to find them - i belive.
[14:31] <scunizi> remoteCTR1, current HD requires blueray players.  nothing else out there. HD dvd is dead.
[14:31] <kelvin911> sarmisak: whys that?
[14:31] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  it would be impressive if it could use the X fonts.
[14:31] <pdub> i can't figure out how, whenever i try to change the fstab, it says access denied, and i cannot log in as root.. not sure what the sudo command is under the terminal
[14:31] <cyber> hello !
[14:31] <HardyHuman> gotcha just wanted the shortest routes
[14:31] <kelvin911> sarmisak: this usb bluetooth only for windows?
[14:31] <sarmisak> kelvin911: it would cost much cheaper to you since it cannot load any drivers for your dongle
[14:31] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: It gave me a list.
[14:31] <sarmisak> kelvin911: probably yes
[14:31] <perlmonkey> greetings from monkey island
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> pdub gksudo gedit path/file  or sudo nano path/file
[14:32] <kelvin911> sarmisak: how do i know if usb bluetooth is for linux?
[14:32] <HardyHuman> this place is strange
[14:32] <HardyHuman> lol
[14:32] <AaronH> what up unr3a1
[14:32] <Slart> scunizi: looks like you're not the only one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/233889
[14:32] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  theres some 'consolefonts' directory with all the fonts the console can use.    theres proberly a howto on changing them. I normally dont bother.
[14:32] <Dr_willis> !consolefont
[14:32] <remoteCTR1> scunizi: i am well aware about that, but as blue ray players go below 100€ meanwhile that is ok by me
[14:32] <jmgardn3> kelvin911: Have you yet to find hardware that doesn't work in linux?
[14:32] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Oh, okay.
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> HardyHuman the shortest route is to ask in a channel related to what you need to know.
[14:32] <jmgardn3> lol
[14:32] <In-Sane``> the system keeps notifying me about some updates related with of evolution, I want to disable those updates because I don't use evolution, any suggestions please?
[14:32] <Steve-cal> pdub: The /etc/fstab is just a text file--you have to load it up with a text editor, say: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[14:33] <Slart> hmm... ubottu recognizes launchpad links?.. cool
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !pinning | In-Sane``
[14:33] <kelvin911> jmgardn2: what?
[14:33] <gizmokaka> so does anyone know the answer
[14:33] <Slart> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[14:33] <In-Sane``> Jack_Sparrow: thank you
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:33] <perlmonkey> strange problem... I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a hdd which is on my laptop (which i plan to remove and fit into a desktop PC after) anyways.. I get to the hdd partitioning stage, and whichever option I choose, it just goes straight back to the menu and selects the top option "guided"  the hdd does have a previous (partial) installation of debian on it. any ideas?
[14:33] <sarmisak> kelvin911: try googling
[14:33] <Pici> Slart: Please don't abuse it....
[14:33] <Slart> Pici: just had to check =)
[14:33] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  i just googled an answer. :)   sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[14:33] <kelvin911> sarmisak: thats what i am doing
[14:34] <sarmisak> kelvin911: there are many sites for hardware compatibility issues
[14:34] <Kartagis> how can I see services added to start-up?
[14:34] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  i just googled an answer. :)   look at the documentation in /usr/share/doc/console-tools and the other /usr/share/doc/console-* folders, since now these are the packages used to set up the console font at boot time, IIRC.
[14:34] <robg_> perlmonkey: always use guided option. Is safest.
[14:34] <gizmokaka> HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[14:34] <perlmonkey> robg_ even if I select the guided option, it just goes straight back to the menu
[14:34] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Actually, I think I'll just stick with my current font. ;) Thanks for the help, though.
[14:34] <scunizi> Slart wrong nick?  for link referance?
[14:35] <pdub> ok i got it loaded up.. now what would the the command line be to mount xp in a wubi install?
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmokaka not appreciated
[14:35] <HardyHuman> what the eheck
[14:35] <robg_> perlmoney: there is logic built into the installer. Sometimes something is not possible.
[14:35] <secour> Hi
[14:35] <Dr_willis> ChaosTheory_,  i had issues with twin not using a proper font.. never did get it 100% working right.
[14:35] <guru> hi
[14:35] <perlmonkey> it doesn't make any sense to me
[14:35] <secour> How can i change resolution on fvwm-crystal ?
[14:35] <secour> i'm in 800*600 : (
[14:35] <perlmonkey> k
[14:36] <gizmokaka> oh thanks for the attention :)
[14:36] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Oh.
[14:36] <gizmokaka> well captain Jack
[14:36] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: Yeah, I'm really accustomed to RP's keybindings.
[14:36] <perlmonkey> if I select manual partition method and deleted all existing partitions, and create a new one from free space, it should carry that out eh. but it does not
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> perlmonkey does sudo fdisk -l return a valid drive and partition
[14:36] <Slart> scunizi: ahh.. indeed.. it was for jmgardn3
[14:36] <perlmonkey> what could be preventing it?
[14:36] <gizmokaka> Jack: can you answer my small fairly easy question?
[14:36] <Slart> scunizi: about the "Nautilus cannot handle blablabla"  bug
[14:36] <ChaosTheory_> Dr_willis: I've got a nice setup, I think. ^^;
[14:36] <perlmonkey> Jack_Sparrow I will break out to a shell and check, good point
[14:36] <scunizi> Slart, yep.. :)  np
[14:37] <Slart> jmgardn3: looks like you're not the only one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/233889
[14:37] <Steve-cal> pdub: Try using this:
[14:37] <Steve-cal> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[14:37] <B-rabbit> how do i encrypt e-mail? name of the program plz :)
[14:37] <B-rabbit> or a tutorial
[14:37] <kelvin911> which usb bluetooth is known to be work with linux?
[14:37] <perlmonkey> Jack_Sparrow: I'm assuming the drive is ok as I was able to boot from it
[14:37] <robg_> perlmoney: always possible to do guided install of entire disk.
[14:37] <Slart> B-rabbit: there's a pgp plugin for thunderbird.. enigma something
[14:37] <gizmokaka> Jack_Sparrow, so dude, can you also help me?
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> perlmonkey It might be seen in windows but not by ubuntu...
[14:37] <perlmonkey> robg_ well it's not possible in this instance, so something is wrong
[14:37] <jmgardn3> Slart: Unfortunately I have yet to get a fix....
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmokaka Stop.. No...
[14:37] <gizmokaka> my question is fairly easy and short
[14:37] <B-rabbit> Slart, thnx :) i will check it out
[14:38] <gizmokaka> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[14:38] <robg_> perlmoney: you could wipe disk clean with gparted and download a fresh LiveCD.
[14:38] <gizmokaka> guru, hi
[14:38] <grobda24> Is my blog friendly to Ubuntu users ? http://djbarney.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/how-to-keep-the-compiz-cube-zoomed-out-and-in-3d/
[14:38] <perlmonkey> might be an idea
[14:38] <gizmokaka> guru, can please tell me, to which group should i add a regular user inorder for it to be able to
[14:38] <Slart> B-rabbit: enigmail is the name of the extension.. http://enigmail.mozdev.org/home/index.php
[14:38] <hackntossh> grobda24: yes.
[14:39] <gizmokaka> run servers that open sockets?
[14:39] <robg_> perlmoney: if hardware is on good condition you can overwrite disk as many times as you want.
[14:39] <cj_> are there anyother programs the run windows game beside Wine?
[14:39] <Slart> grobda24: looks alright to me
[14:39] <scunizi> grobda24, doesn't load here.
[14:39] <grobda24> hackntossh ... I new to Ubuntu. I was worried about using vim, but maybe that's the only way to edit a protected file ?
[14:39] <raytruz`> Can someone else play a youtube video then try to play a mp3.  I have to do one or the other, but i cannot do both at the same time.  I was able to before 8.04
[14:40] <Slart> grobda24: and I've got noscript and adblock running.. but it doesn't seem to affect so I guess it's playing by the rules =)
[14:40] <legend2440> grobda24: doesn't load here either
[14:40] <grobda24> scunizi .... what error ? dns ? traffic problem ?
[14:40] <Slart> raytruz`: are you using pulseaudio for sound?
[14:40] <scunizi> grobda24, just continues "loading" black screen
[14:40] <hackntossh> grobda24: you can edit any protected file, you have to use "sudo" before you ask to edit...e.g. sudo pico httpd.conf
[14:41] <Chuggst3r_> I hope a new kernel is released soon. :(
[14:41] <raytruz`> Slart: I'm using whatever is default for 8.04
[14:41] <grobda24> hackntossh ... yes, I meant in the GUI.
[14:41] <perlmonkey> gparted seems to have done the trick
[14:41] <raytruz`> Slart: and Firefox for youtube, and totem for themp3
[14:41] <perlmonkey> thanks guys
[14:41] <cj_> are there anyother programs the run windows game beside Wine?
[14:41] <Slart> raytruz`: I'll give it a try here.. hang on
[14:41] <scunizi> Chuggst3r, they just released -17  .. you don't like it?
[14:41] <robg_> perlmoney: sure, with gparted I solve any problem.
[14:41] <raytruz`> Slart: thanks.  As far as totem goes, i just let it search for the codecs to play mp3.  I did this just fine before 8.04.
[14:41] <scunizi> grobda24, use gksudo gedit <file>
[14:41] <hackntossh> grobda24: yes, vim is the best way imho
[14:42] <Chuggst3r_> scunizi: No, it broke my 3D Acceleration.