[00:00] <klu3> idk i was watching something on youtube
[00:00] <klu3> should i increase it
[00:00] <klu3> what number should the count be
[00:01] <hggdh> klu3: well, right now you are only copying 2MB (two blocks of 1MB) to sdb. You should not specify *any* count=
[00:03] <hggdh> klu3: also, I am not sure how it will work, I never dd-ed to a SSD before.
[00:03] <klu3> hggdh: ok thank you for pointing it out will this command work sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1G count= status=progress
[00:04] <klu3> i change from 1M to 1G  hopefully it transfer file or block faster, should i write count=  or just leave it out
[00:06] <hggdh> klu3: you *can* use a bs=1G (I suppose you have enough main memory), but it is probably better to use smaller blocks; and you should NOT specify count= (as I already stated)
[00:08] <klu3> sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count= status=progress
[00:09] <klu3> this command is good?
[00:16] <klu3> ok i put it in and it seems to be working i set bs=50M  and im getting 142 MB/s speed
[00:17] <klu3> already cloned 20 gig in like 2minutes, cool
[00:20] <klu3> is 142 the highest speed for hdd ?
[00:20] <klu3> or is it because of the blocksize i specified
[00:23] <Intelo> can I encrypt the system disk but still want the OS to boot / auto boot after a power outage but with a locked screen?
[00:23] <Intelo> So I dont have to manually give the password
[00:26] <guiverc> Intelo: i'm no expert, but if the system disk is encrypted; it won't be able to boot until you unlock it (unless the key is provided by a key inserted like many servers have, but the encryption is useless when key is there)
[00:27] <Intelo> guiverc,  hm.. can't it boot on its own and not decrypt any further?
[00:28] <Intelo> guiverc,  its a server and I want it to be encrypted as well as no need for me to enter pass when its auto rebooted
[00:28] <guiverc> Intelo: it can only boot & use what it has access to, ie. unencrypted data/configs/programs, or things you have provided keys for & thus are unencrypted
[00:29] <guiverc> Intelo: i have a server that boots to a point fine, but my NFS shares aren't mounted until I provide a key to allow access to those volumes (it uses multiple keys actually; steps requiring a key don't proceed until I've unlocked them)
[00:30] <guiverc> (nfs shares - it's a nfs server; so they aren't available for other machines until I've unlocked; it doesn't use the shares except for export)
[00:31] <guiverc> if you don't want to enter a password; why not have it encrypted (as encryption is pointless in my opinion if key is auto-provided... the server function of internal key is only valid when it's key is removed - this sound the closest to what you want)
[00:32]  * Intelo will read and understand in a minut
[00:32] <guiverc> sorry poor wording on last; encryption is only valid when key is removed from server..
[00:35] <guiverc> also "if you don't want to enter a password, why not have it encrypted" should have been "why not have it unecrypted"
[00:49] <ph88> why can't i install libssl-dev ?  https://bpaste.net/show/dfbe4e3838fe
[00:52] <Bashing-om> ph88: PPA ?? what shows ' apt policy libssl1.1 ' ?
[00:53] <ph88> Bashing-om, https://bpaste.net/show/02e94cfbb698
[00:53] <ph88> i had ubuntu 18.04 and did a dist upgrade to 18.10
[00:57] <moredrowsy> lordcirth, hi, i have finally finished doing the powertop measurements. however, there's another error 'modprobe cpufreq_stats failedLoaded 368 prior measurements', how do i fix the cpu stats fail load?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !info libssl1.1 cosmic
[01:00] <Bashing-om> ph88: Any idea where "1.1.1-3+ubuntu18.04.1+deb.sury.org+3" version comes from ? .. can you remove that version and install the cosmic version ^ ?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> ph88: Puch ! tread lightly as " Priority: important " !
[01:04] <ph88> Bashing-om, no idea where my current version comes from o_O .. how can i remove it ?
[01:05] <Bashing-om> ph88: Honestly, I am afraid to touch it .. others here will have to pick up my slack .
[01:06] <ph88> Bashing-om, ye doesn't seem like a good idea to remove it https://bpaste.net/show/53dd664073be
[01:06] <ph88> lol
[01:09] <Bashing-om> ph88: Yup !  .. Afraid to touch it :( Now someone here may have a magic incontation to revert the version to that of cosmic's default .. maybe .
[01:10] <ph88> maybe just replace some files manually
[01:11] <HipHop-openbox> What is the best virtual machine for Linux?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> ph88: Maybe see what you can find out as to why that version is installed . apt depends libssl1.1 ; apt rdepends libssl1.1 ' for just thinking purposes .
[01:12] <ph88> Bashing-om, i can use synaptic to downgrade https://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/
[01:12] <tgm4883> you can use apt to downgrade as well
[01:13] <tgm4883> iirc, <package>=<version>
[01:13] <Bashing-om> ph88: tgm4883 to the rescue :P
[01:13] <tgm4883> what version are you trying to install?
[01:13] <ph88> Bashing-om, https://bpaste.net/show/4e7947e05e19
[01:14] <ph88> tgm4883, i was trying to install libssl-dev before and ran into this version https://bpaste.net/show/dfbe4e3838fe then Bashing-om found out cosmic is on an older version so i like to install that one
[01:15] <ph88> https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/libssl1.1 1.1.1-1ubuntu2
[01:15] <ph88> 1.1.1-1ubuntu2
[01:15] <tgm4883> so I think it's just 'sudo apt install libssl1.1=1.1.1-1ubuntu2
[01:18] <ph88> tgm4883, Bashing-om https://bpaste.net/show/907258fc2460
[01:19] <ph88> bit weird about those other packages but okay .. they don't look important to me
[01:19] <tgm4883> ph88: I'm assuming those other packages are depending on that specific version of libssl1.1
[01:19] <ph88> ok thx installing libssl-dev worked now :D
[01:25] <redhat> yo
[01:25] <Bashing-om> ph88: As a thought //might be good to know that the package manager is consistent now . ' sudo dpkg -C '
[01:26] <ph88> Bashing-om, no message shows when i run that command
[01:27] <Bashing-om> ph88: All to the good then :)
[01:38] <redhat> tell.. fedira colosus vs ubuntu openstack
[01:38] <redhat> is it a free panction between them
[01:38] <redhat> or is it a black made pieces to attributes?
[01:54] <subcool> So i know this is silly, but- im asking. I just opend up my old Lenovo thinkpad with kubuntu 13.04. The ppa's r out of date and i keep receiving IP errors. Where can i get a list of the updated addresses
[01:55] <Bashing-om> !ppa | subcool
[01:56] <subcool> hhmm.. then maybe not ppa's?
[01:56] <subcool> all i know is im trying to update my lil guy, and all i see is errors
[01:58] <subcool> https://pastebin.com/1bh9QWLc
[01:58] <Bashing-om> subcool: There is a procedure to upgrade an end of life release .. from 13.04 will be long and hard .. and a lot of bandwidth .. A lot has changed . might be better advised to "clean install" 18.04.
[01:58] <Bashing-om> !eol | subcool
[01:59] <subcool> i dont want a dist-upgrade. Just get 13.04 up to date
[01:59] <Bashing-om> subcool: ^ the raring repo no longer exist .
[01:59] <subcool> wow
[02:00] <subcool> not even archive?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> subcool: You are End_Of_Life amd have no support in raring .
[02:00] <subcool> ok..
[02:01] <subcool> this thing is old, it cant handle 18.
[02:01] <subcool> centrino duo
[02:01] <subcool> lol
[02:01] <subcool> i miss this guy-
[02:01] <Bashing-om> !raring | subcool
[02:02] <subcool> ok, ill give it a think over. i doubt the hdd will last long anyways, and the interface is some odd old IDE
[02:02] <Bashing-om> subcool: maybe xubuntu or lubuntu will do on that old hardware .
[02:03] <subcool> i keep hearing about them.
[02:03] <subcool> i like my gui
[02:04] <Bashing-om> subcool: I can feel for you ... I miss lucid !
[02:07] <subcool> ok, well.. time to get. im on it now, and im not taking it with me.
[02:07] <subcool> thanks dude
[02:12] <pjs> what's the proper way to set the remote dns servers to use?
[02:25] <tgm4883> pjs: in network manager unless you're on a server
[02:27] <teward> pjs: network manager if on a desktop; netplan if you're using 18.04 or newer SErver edition
[02:30] <pjs> teward: on Desktop, I run NetworkManager and nothing.. Looks like it's a daemon. I'll check the man page
[02:31] <tgm4883> pjs: network manager is the networking icon in your system tray
[02:32] <tgm4883> pjs: you would edit your connection type and selete "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only" then set your DNS servers as you like
[02:32] <teward> ^ that
[02:33] <chovy> i'm not getting any audio on my new zenbook
[02:33] <chovy> checked alsa mixer, nothing is muted
[02:33] <tgm4883> chovy: check pavucontrol
[02:34] <chovy> yeah. i see the line moving for audio but no sound comes out of the speakers
[02:35] <guiverc> chovy: try going to last tab in pavucontrol, turn sound off, then back on..
[02:35] <guiverc> ie configuration - profile to off, then back to whatever you prefer
[02:37] <pjs> tgm4883: So it's configured per network? ie, I have the dns servers set for my home connection but when I go to another location, it uses a different set of dns server than I want. Ie, I always want <IP_ADDRESS> to be used. There's no way to do that?
[02:37] <chovy> guiverc: nothing
[02:37] <chovy> no change
[02:38] <guiverc> :(   -- it was just a thought, what had fixed sound for me when i lose it because of bad keystroke
[02:41] <tgm4883> pjs: I feel like the answer is yes you can do that with the systemd resolver, but after doing a quick search I'm not finding a way to do it without just bypassing the resolver completely
[02:55] <pjs> tgm4883: Right , that's what brought me here. Very frustrating. Thanks for the help though
[03:18] <kantlivelong> weird
[03:19] <kantlivelong> am i the only one resolving security.ubuntu.com to a 6to4 address?
[03:22] <drmessano> kantlivelong: Not here
[03:22] <kantlivelong> cant imagine why it would even return an AAAA record when theres no routable ipv6 on the system.
[04:10] <energizer> would somebody on ubuntu 18.04 mind sharing the output of     python3.6 -c 'license()'
[04:12] <kliwon> Hit Return for more, or q (and Return) to quit:
[04:12] <kliwon> :D
[04:12] <kliwon> check...
[04:13] <energizer> hm ok thanks
[04:16] <Intelo> This is vnstat of my vps. rx:      676 kbit/s   566 p/s          tx:       66 kbit/s   Its quite low. no?
[04:55] <moredrowsy> dose anyone have a dell xps? was wondering how i can enable linux to stop battery chargning after a certain %. i already enabled it in the bios to charge only at 50% to 80% before switching to ac. however, on linux...it just keeps charging
[04:59] <guiverc> moredrowsy: i have no idea, but I recall barton george on a podcast saying there was a ppa/source you can add to get all functionality in standard ubuntu that was available on the delivered Ubuntu (for XPS specifically, plus other dell models supported)
[05:00] <guiverc> (my name could be incorrect, a guy in charge of sputnik @ dell as I recall... my spelling or name may be incorrect as from memory)
[05:00] <moredrowsy> guiverc, ill look into. thanks!
[05:26] <klu3> hey im back the guy who was trying to clone 1tb hdd to 1tb ssd, just wanted to say it worked, took about 4 hours but everything transferred
[05:52] <acu> I installed 18.04.1 Server as a virtual machine - and I see cloud init installed and also it seem there are a bunch of scripts - why do I need cloud init ? I run a small kvm server with around 15 virtual machines - so is mostly virt-manager virsh, so I am interested why cloud init launches by default, and what exactly it does ?
[05:53] <acu> !cloudinit
[05:53] <acu> !cloud.init
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> acu: come join in #ubuntu-server please
[05:54] <acu> lotuspsychje, I did, nobody awake it seem :)
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> acu: we have users worldwide on different timezones, patient a bit mate
[06:02] <acu> thnks
[06:02] <acu> !cloud-init
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !info cloud-init | acu
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> acu: checked the manpage in your terminal?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> acu: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit
[06:07] <acu> thanks lotuspsychje - I will read it right now - it seem strange that a script is initiated - but hey it seem that I have to learn about it, as much about netplane (another pain somewhere).. :) - but thanks again
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> acu: ubuntu 18.04 also uses systemd, so you might also investigate this https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/boot.html
[06:14] <DarwinElf> doesn't work to start second X session.  How to?
[06:15] <ChiLLabiS> F1 is a second session DarwinElf
[06:15] <ChiLLabiS> if you got 18.04
[06:16] <ChiLLabiS> I also don't know how to start a new session in other ttys
[06:16] <ChiLLabiS> Would like to know that aswell
[06:20] <hateball> I dont think multiseat is that easy to achieve these days (not that it ever was)
[06:20] <hateball> at least not if using a single gpu
[06:30] <blue1> Hi -- I am getting a Temporary failure in name resolution for mail.comcast.net -- can someone else try to ping them as a sanity check for me?  Thanks.
[06:40] <guiver_d> blue1: name or service not known
[07:17] <DarwinElf> i don't know what you mean 'F1 is a second session.'  I don't use GNOME/etc., I use KDE
[07:18] <DarwinElf> I'm only using a Ubuntu temporarily, and the more strictly Unix(-like) OSes I use have KDE
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !tty | DarwinElf
[07:27] <DarwinElf> i already knew that
[07:28] <DarwinElf> i'm trying to start a second X session and it doesn't work on Ubuntu at all, like it works on strictly Unix(-like) OSes... you really believe someone who uses those doesn't know what a tty is?  Most my life that's what I mainly used
[07:29] <DarwinElf> if I could press a button and force everyone using any desktop, laptop, pad, or phone to use a tty, I'd do it
[07:37] <elias_a> DarwinElf: Do you mean you want to have multiple xserver instances running?
[07:38] <DarwinElf> if that's what having a second X session involves
[07:38] <ducasse> DarwinElf: if it still works, if you use lightdm you can start a second session with dm-tool
[07:38] <elias_a> DarwinElf: AFAIK, yes. Would this be of any help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/9694/how-to-run-two-x-sessions-at-the-same-time
[07:39] <elias_a> DarwinElf: If that does not help, you could ask on channel #ltsp as this is a basic functionality in a LTSP server.
[07:41] <DarwinElf> I use sddm
[07:41] <DarwinElf> that question & answer page is for a completely different, unusual, situation
[07:43] <sud0x3> DarwinElf: What have you tried, Doesnt work at all, and i tried my "unix way" doesnt give much to go on.
[07:43] <DarwinElf> i'd be running them on the same PC/monitor.  That page is about running one for the specific computer, and another for a remote connection
[07:43] <elias_a> DarwinElf: Ok. I guess you'll have to dig into documentation of sddm then.
[07:44] <sud0x3> Two xsessions on the same monitor? thats a strange one.
[07:44] <DarwinElf> 'xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.enlightenment -- /usr/bin/X :1' (disconnects,) 'xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.enlightenment -- /usr/bin/X :1 vt2' (crashes first session,) 'startx -- :1' (server is lost)
[07:44] <elias_a> DarwinElf: Try #ltsp - they are quite skilled there. :)
[07:45] <DarwinElf> actually it's not very strange at all.  I don't know what LTSP is
[07:45] <elias_a> LTSP = Linux Terminal Server Project
[07:45] <sud0x3> DarwinElf: Having never hear anyone who wanted to do this before id say it was, what are you trying to achieve with this.
[07:46] <DarwinElf> I know enough people who do this that they instantly explained how to do it on other distributions
[07:47] <elias_a> DarwinElf: Does the trick work on Debian?
[07:47] <DarwinElf> i don't know.  Debian isn't Unix-like
[07:47] <sud0x3> How do they do it then? still havent said what you tried?
[07:47] <DarwinElf> actually I did
[07:47] <DarwinElf> the way they do it is similar to the commands I mentioned
[07:49] <ducasse> DarwinElf: since you joined at 07:14 CET i can't see you mentioning any commands, can you please list them again?
[07:49] <DarwinElf> i didn't say i wanted to achieve anything.  I didn't come here to be questioned about the reasons I want to do it (which should be obvious now anyway,) just to find out how to do it
[07:50] <DarwinElf> read 16 lines up
[07:50] <ducasse> just saw it, sorry
[07:51] <ducasse> did you make a ~/.xinitrc before running startx?
[07:51] <DarwinElf> the commands I gave, apart from the second being a modification by a Ubuntu user, work on Slackware
[07:51] <DarwinElf> well that's at /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.enlightenment
[07:52] <DarwinElf> the last command I mentioned should work to just start a duplicate session of the default display manager, not needing another xinitrc
[07:52] <DarwinElf> well not 'duplicate,' but second started in the same sort of way
[07:52] <ducasse> startx won't start a display manager afaik, but an x server plus a wm
[07:53] <DarwinElf> enlightenment (E) is just a WM
[07:53] <DarwinElf> but of course it's not specified with that 'startx' so that's why that doesn't work
[07:53] <DarwinElf> someone said it used to before Ubuntu 16.04
[07:54] <DarwinElf> how many more things is systemd (or whatever) going to break...
[07:55] <DarwinElf> basically I'm running KDE but trying to migrate to E
[07:55] <DarwinElf> so have to run them at the same time
[07:55] <ducasse> i think it's to do with the x server no longer being setuid
[07:56] <DarwinElf> and whether I switch or not, sometimes I just like to try out various window managers or desktop environments in a second session
[08:00] <DarwinElf> you mean setuid root?  So, more paranoia pushed on users when normally you need root to run graphics on a pure console/terminal?
[08:03] <ducasse> setuid root, yes. aiui the dm now handles the trickery involved to start the x server
[08:10] <DarwinElf> i changed it to rwsr-xr-x but that didn't enable the first or third commands I mentioned
[08:10] <DarwinElf> (changed /usr/bin/Xorg)
[08:19] <DarwinElf> and the second command still crashed the X session I was in talking here on my previous line
[08:34] <laceylaney> Looking to create a back-up script to back-up certain folders within my /home/ directory. Have no idea on where to begin. Anyone here able to give me a push in a good direction ??
[08:38] <ducasse> !backup | laceylaney
[08:40] <lsfc1914> Hello. I am using ubuntu 16.04. I recently did apt-get update and since then I cannot open firefox. The version of firefox is 63.0.3. I get the following error in the console "Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: <data>:1:34: Expected ')' in color definition". How can I fix this?
[08:42] <ducasse> lsfc1914: that's just a warning, it shouldn't prevent firefox from running. are there any other messages?
[08:43] <iron_houzi> I wanted an alternative to Alpine for a small VM, so I installed Bionic server on a 2GB hard drive. The system requirements state 1.5GB minimum. Now I cannot update due to insufficient space on the hard drive. Should it be possible to get updates with such a limited amount of space?
[08:43] <lsfc1914> ducasse: yes, one more warning with the same text, but different line 1:77 instead of 1:34
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> iron_houzi: come join in #ubuntu-server for mindlike volunteers
[08:44] <iron_houzi> lotuspsychje: ty!
[08:45] <lsfc1914> when I try to open firefox a window appears and says "Firefox had a problem and crashed". And no matter if I click Quit Firefox or Restart Firefox nothing happens
[08:45] <lsfc1914> I also tried firefox -safe-mode from terminal and the result is the same
[08:47] <ogarch> can anyone help me figure out how to get my htc vive working in ubuntu
[08:48] <ogarch> currently I have the amdgpu drive 18.40 for the rx 580 amd gpu
[08:48] <ogarch> when I load steamvr it gives a bunch of crazy lines
[08:48] <ogarch> no graphics
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> ogarch: can we ask how you installed amdgpu please?
[08:48] <ogarch> I tried installing experimental graphics for steamvr linux and they did not work either
[08:48] <ogarch> From amd website
[08:49] <ogarch> the latest rx 580 driver
[08:49] <ogarch> for ubuntu 18.04
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ogarch: compare with this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[08:50] <ogarch> yea man I know how to install a driver
[08:50] <ogarch> that's not my problem
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> ogarch: im not attacking you mate, just trying to widen your options
[08:51] <ogarch> I didn't mean it like that haha
[08:51] <ogarch> uhm
[08:51] <ogarch>  I haven't actaully tried adding the mesa ppa
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> ogarch: that linuxconfig site has a lot of clean tutorials, hence why i shared
[08:52] <ogarch> thank you for sharing that
[08:52] <ogarch> maybe it will magically work
[08:52] <ogarch> the irony would be comical
[08:52] <ogarch> but I'm not going to question destiny
[08:53] <ogarch> sec I am going to reboot into ubuntu, brb
[08:58] <linux_gnu> Hi , when running  netstat -atnp | grep ESTABLISHED    I have clock-applet  connected ,how can I stop this connection being made and update the clock manually instead???? (in time and date   settings I put  "manual" so I don t understand....I have mate desktop ,but nobody is helping on #mate..
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !time | linux_gnu can this help?
[09:06] <wyseguy> hey all
[09:07] <linux_gnu> ubottu ntp is not even installed on 18.10
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> welcome wyseguy
[09:09] <linux_gnu> !time
[09:09] <wyseguy> lotuspsychje yo
[09:09] <wyseguy> looking to get some insight on possibly moving a small business over to linux
[09:09] <wyseguy> issue is some programs they use I think only work on windows
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: servers or desktops?
[09:10] <wyseguy> their current setup is windows server 2016 and they all rdp in
[09:10] <wyseguy> thin clients
[09:10] <linux_gnu> ubottu all your pages are about ntp ,wich is not installed on current ubuntu
[09:10] <wyseguy> servers are onsite
[09:11] <linux_gnu> oups..
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: i mean, will you replace also the server to ubuntu?
[09:11] <wyseguy> yes, everything would be linux
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> wyseguy: nice project! come join in #ubuntu-server to discuss
[09:19] <EriC^^> !ping
[09:22] <ne2k> I'm looking for an ubuntuish way (or failing that, any way) to store monitor settings profiles and restore them from a script. i.e. I want to store everything that is edited by "screen display" applet, i.e. which monitors are on, where they are placed relative to each other and which display the launcher is on
[09:24] <ne2k> I've tried scraping the output of dconf dump / to see whether there is anythign stored in there, but I'm struggling to find the right thing. I can see [org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core]; outputs=['2560x1440+1680+0', '1680x1050+4240+101', '1680x1050+0+100'] which is presumably part of it
[09:25] <ne2k> oh, this is straight xenial, btw
[09:55] <neure> hi
[09:56] <neure> is there command line app which woudl give summary of what is taking space?
[09:56] <TimeDoctor> du -h
[09:56] <neure> I know du, but im looking for something which would give a bit more intelligent summary
[09:56] <blackflow> ncdu is better
[09:57] <neure> which package has ncdu?
[09:57] <EriC^^> ncdu
[09:57] <neure> funny i failed to find with apt-cache search :P
[09:58] <neure> it was there on first line
[09:58] <neure> thanks, looks better
[09:58] <blackflow> neure: if you typed ncdu on the command line, by default it should've suggested the package
[09:59] <blackflow> (at least if you have the command-not-found package installed, which is by default on Ubuntu)
[10:00] <afx_> Hello ! Using Ubuntu 18.04 and vlc 3.0.4 , I am unable to play youtube videos . Anyone else with similar problems?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> afx_: bionic version of vlc is: Version 3.0.3-1-1ubuntu1
[10:09] <afx_> lotuspsychje, bionic version?
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> afx_: bionic: 18.04
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> afx_: how did you download version 3.0.4?
[10:09] <afx_> lotuspsychje, I have installed vlc through ubuntu software
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> afx_: ah your using the snap vlc
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> afx_: please file a bug to the maintainer of the snap
[10:10] <afx_> lotuspsychje, yeap . sorry didnt mention that
[10:11] <afx_> should I try with apt ?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> afx_: yes, please to compare
[10:11] <afx_> let me try lotuspsychje
[10:13] <afx_> lotuspsychje, by removing it from ubuntu software there is still ~/snap/vlc directory . Is that normal?
[10:16] <afx_> just installed vlc through apt . version is still 3.0.4 and the same problem occurs when trying to play a youtube video
[10:16] <ne2k> afx_, has vlc ever been able to play youtube videos?
[10:17] <afx_> ne2k, never tried on that machine
[10:17] <ne2k> I was not aware that was a feature. seems it is
[10:28] <CDuv> Hello, I have an issue with a snap software and DNS resolution: it seems that once DNS-resolved, snapd remembers the resolved IP address. So, after I change my DNS record, the software is still trying to contact the old IP address.
[10:31] <afx_> ne2k, were you able to play a youtube video ?
[10:31] <afx_> btw I am getting this error : Couldn't process youtube video URL, please check for updates to this script
[10:32] <kjaeroid> Hi, I'm back
[10:32] <vlt> afx_: Wait ... How are you trying to play that video? I assumed you had it downloaded first.
[10:34] <kjaeroid> Hi everybody. I've had a suspicion, that a rootkit might have found its way to my PC. When I run rkhunter, it says there are 12 possible rookits. Could it all be false positives?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: can you hastebin the results plz
[10:34] <kjaeroid> sure just a sec
[10:37] <kjaeroid> https://hastebin.com/uhatuzesot.sql
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: are you still on kernel 4.15.0-20-generic ?
[10:40] <kjaeroid> how do you check that?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: uname -a
[10:40] <kjaeroid> yes I am
[10:40] <kjaeroid> running from a USB flash drive
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: you have a dedicated install on usb correct?
[10:43] <kjaeroid> running like from a live cd - just usb
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: did you scan rkhunter on a liveusb?
[10:44] <kjaeroid> yes - not the hard drive, since I'm pretty sure everything is fine there
[10:45] <ne2k> vlt, if it had been downloaded, it wouldn't be a youtube video; it'd just be a video. there's a feature that allows vlc to play youtube URLs
[10:45] <ne2k> https://videoconverter.wondershare.com/vlc/how-to-play-youtube-videos-in-vlc-media-player.html
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: theres no point scanning rkhunter on a live, what are you trying to achieve?
[10:47] <kjaeroid> if someone may have changed the content of the usb
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: a live is meant to test things, or backup stuff, not to run 24/7
[10:49] <kjaeroid> Yes I know. I don't run it 24-7. But I'm using it now, and wanted to know if it was secure to install from
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: its reccomended you before you install ubuntu, to download the latest .iso from downloads, create your live and install ubuntu + updates
[10:51] <kjaeroid> Alright. But are those 12 false positives or something. Actually, the first scan with rkhunter only showed 11 possible rootkits
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: like i said before, there's no point of scanning rkhunter on a liveusb
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: how old is your ubuntu iso you burned?
[10:53] <kjaeroid> old
[10:53] <kjaeroid> heh
[10:54] <kjaeroid> oh so that could be why>
[10:54] <afx_> vlt, Media -> Open network stream .. -> Please enter network URL:
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: so, do as adviced create a latest iso
[10:54] <kjaeroid> *?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> kjaeroid: there are no rootkits on ubuntu iso's by default
[10:54] <kjaeroid> not by default, I know
[10:55] <kjaeroid> but couldn't the content on the usb be changed?
[10:56] <kjaeroid> I've got some reasons to be a little paranoid hehe
[10:59] <sud0x3> kjaeroid: Format it and put on the latest iso from an officail source and be done with it no? Your attempt at being paranoid was to run the live usb that you were paranoid about on you own hardware i take it.
[11:00] <sud0x3> kjaeroid: If so and it did caontain something malicious its likely already done the damage, but the chances of someoen tagetting you taht way are very slim you wouldnt be here talking about it put it that way.
[11:00] <TJ-> kjaeroid: rkhunter does not 'hunt' rootkits, it simply compares the cryptographic hashes of key files with its own internal list. It cannot possibly cover all permutations of distros, releases, package versions, so it will often give false positives
[11:01] <elias_a> TJ-: This was good information! The whole concept seems to be a bit vague...
[11:03] <TJ-> rkhunter's own FAQ states, in 3.1.A "... If a file property check fails, then it is possible you have
[11:03] <TJ->      what is called a 'false positive'. Sometimes this will happen
[11:04] <TJ->      due to package updates, customised configurations or changed
[11:04] <TJ->      binaries. If so, then please check further:
[11:05] <Pdrome> Hi al, in ddrescue am i using -v -v -v -v or am i using -vvvv
[11:08] <TJ-> regarding rkhunter, FAQ 3.2.A also very much applies when it compares only the version of an installed tool, rather than checking whether the distro packaging has backported fixes (which is what Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, Centos, SUSE, etc., do)
[11:11] <leonardus> What are the potential security risks of having no password or a weak password for my user?
[11:15] <kjaeroid> leonhardus: brute-force attack, I guess
[11:17] <elias_a> leonardus: If you have it connected to public Internet, there is a risk.
[11:17] <sud0x3> leonardus: Too relative to give a good answer
[11:17] <leonardus> elias_a: in what way?
[11:17] <elias_a> leonardus: Why would you not want to use a proper password?
[11:18] <kjaeroid> Ok, thanks for all the information on rkhunter, guys. But I'm in a situation, where people may want to get in one way or another, since I'm holding BTC
[11:18] <leonardus> elias_a: just a hypothetical
[11:18] <kjaeroid> or HODLING lol :)
[11:19] <elias_a> leonardus: Someone sniffs there a computer there, finds out what OS and starts playing with scripts to get into the box.
[11:21] <TJ-> kjaeroid: keep the wallet offline, on a non-networked or dedicated hardware device, is the usual recommendation
[11:21] <ZaZaQR> hello
[11:21] <kjaeroid> yes with air-gap, I know :)
[11:22] <kjaeroid> This liveusb was just a little messed up for some reason... but well, thanks everybody! :)
[11:24] <sud0x3> elias_a: If someone is on your network bad passwrods are the last of your problems. I dont think ubuntu has any services that expose the login to bruteforce on a default install either.
[11:27] <elias_a> sud0x3: True, but that is often the case.
[11:28] <elias_a> sud0x3: I mean it is the case that an Ubuntu box is often in a not so safe network.
[11:28] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:28] <sud0x3> Yes computers are going to be connected to networks but you should only really be connecting to ones you can trust. I just dont see why having your password would make it worse in a network attack scenario against a default ubuntu install.
[11:29] <sud0x3> Like i have no services running that you could use my password for, but as you said you can just sniff al my traffic etc.
[11:33] <sud0x3> BluesKaj: Morning :)
[11:34] <ZaZaQR> sud0x3, how do i sniff your traffic?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Hi sud0x3
[11:35] <sud0x3> ZaZaQR: I take it your joking?
[11:36] <Pdrome> i think i answered my earlier question, in ddrescue looks like -v -v -v -v and -vvvv do the same thing
[11:36] <sud0x3> kjaeroid: keep checksum of your drives in future if you dont want to duplicate effort
[11:37] <ZaZaQR> sud0x3, well I do have a kali linux on a usb flash drive, but i don't know how to use it. and on ubuntu too
[11:40] <sud0x3> ZaZaQR: Yeah my advice considering you question wasnt a joke is to uninstall kali and leanr about networking and any programming language
[11:40] <sud0x3> python seems popular amongst security professionals
[11:41] <ZaZaQR> oh
[11:41] <ZaZaQR> i don't do programming
[11:41] <dchapman> you can learn linux just fine with ubuntu... distributions only differ in package management (and a few other things)
[11:43] <ZaZaQR> i had a bad experience in high school. my java teacher wasn't that good. and I copied and pasted my friend(s) assignment. I still couldn't excute it correctly. I think it was the space has to be unformatted characters
[11:43] <ZaZaQR> which i later figured out from some guy from Oracle
[11:45] <dchapman> i'm not sure what this has to do with ubuntu
[11:46] <ZaZaQR> coding
[11:47] <dchapman> !offtopic
[11:48] <ZaZaQR> like when you code. You can use your mouse and click and hold and drag the black spaces. Click on unformat characters. Its from clear text editors. its basically visible
[11:48] <ZaZaQR> sorry
[11:48] <sud0x3> ZaZaQR: Dont play with kali then will just get you into trouble if you have no thirst to learn. Maybe some people get on okay in security without programming but i havent heard of them.
[11:53] <ZaZaQR> okay thanks
[12:23] <Golynx> hello. How do i fix these slow boot times ? 3 minutes to boot 18.04 , on 16.04 it was less than a minute https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HPfQqIS.png
[12:25] <tarzeau> Golynx: is that on a laptop?
[12:25] <JimBuntu> Golynx, look into that powerd service
[12:25] <tarzeau> Golynx: if not, does it help if you remove powerd?
[12:26] <Golynx> yes its a laptop . i dont know how to remove critical services like that
[12:27] <tarzeau> apt-get --purge remove powerd  # it's not hard
[12:28] <Golynx> tarzeau is that not needed by the system to work properly?
[12:29] <sud0x3> I would try diasble the services in question before removing system components.
[12:29] <tarzeau> Golynx: no, it's to save battery i think
[12:30] <Golynx> sud0x3 can i do that with systemctl ?
[12:30] <tarzeau> Golynx: my desktop systems don't have powerd installed at all, they work like a champion
[12:32] <sud0x3> Golynx: Yes, im not sure what the service is named though. Im not at an ubunt machine just now.
[12:35] <Golynx> i did "systemctl disable powerd" . Result is, Removed /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/powerd.service.
[12:36] <Golynx> should i reboot?
[12:36] <sud0x3> Golynx: Yes probaly a good idea to test the boot times after the change.
[12:37] <TJ-> Golynx: whatever powerd.service is, I cannot find it in the Ubuntu archive with a file "powerd.service" - is it installed as a snap?
[12:38] <TJ-> Golynx: is this on a smartphone or tablet?
[12:40] <TJ-> Golynx: ahhh, it was deleted from the archive in 2018 as obsolete
[12:50] <ne2k> I'm looking for an ubuntuish way (or failing that, any way) to store monitor settings profiles and restore them from a script. i.e. I want to store everything that is edited by "screen display" applet, i.e. which monitors are on, where they are placed relative to each other and which display the launcher is on
[12:50] <ne2k>  I've tried scraping the output of dconf dump / to see whether there is anythign stored in there, but I'm struggling to find the right thing. I can see [org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core]; outputs=['2560x1440+1680+0', '1680x1050+4240+101', '1680x1050+0+100'] which is presumably part of it
[12:50] <ne2k>  oh, this is straight xenial, btw
[12:50] <Golynx> The boot time went down from 3 minutes to 2 minutes after powerd service was disabled. Theres more service , but not sure if is should disable them ? https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HPg1Zu0.png
[12:52] <pagios> hj, 0% [Connecting to de.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] hangs any help? ipv6 has been disabled dns works fine
[12:55] <frojnd> Hi there.
[12:55] <EriC^^> hello frojnd
[12:55] <TJ-> pagios: can you connect using a regular web browser?
[12:55] <pagios> running headless
[12:56] <frojnd> I would like to have this route available on reboot: `ip r a <IP_ADDRESS> via <IP_ADDRESS>`  How do I do it in ubuntu 18.04 I heard Ubuntu 18.04 uses netplan but I have no idea how to convert that line so it will work with netplan and be persisted on reboot
[12:56] <frojnd> ip route add is the same as ip r a...
[12:56] <frojnd> Anyone used netplan before and can help me out?
[12:57] <TJ-> pagios: use lynx/w3c
[12:58] <TJ-> frojnd: see "man netplan" it gives examples of routes:
[12:59] <frojnd> TJ-: thank you. Was looking at QA on netplan.io but unsucessful;y
[12:59] <geirha> s/w3c/w3m/
[12:59] <TJ-> geirha: :p hmmm,
[12:59] <TJ-> geirha: if all else fails: gopher!
[13:02] <pagios> E: Unable to locate package lynx
[13:02] <pagios> i am using this apt/sources.list https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[13:05] <ne2k> afaics netplan is a heaping pile of shite
[13:05] <ne2k> my opinion based mainly on the fact that it uses yaml for config files, and my connected opinion that yaml is a heaping pile of shite
[13:05] <pagios> TJ-, ?
[13:07] <CDuv> Is there a specific DNS cache for Snap softwareS?
[13:09] <CDuv> s/specific/dedicated/
[13:09] <TJ-> !info lynx | pagios
[13:09] <TJ-> !info w3m | pagios
[13:11] <CDuv> !info snap
[13:13] <TJ-> CDuv: what do you mean by "dns cache" *for* snap?
[13:14] <ne2k> TJ-, I presume the question is asking whether something running in a snap is, in a sense, in a container whereby network access would be namespaced and perhaps the dns cache help separately per container/application
[13:14] <ne2k> held
[13:15] <ne2k> I haven't looked at how snaps actually work so I don't know the answer, but I'm fairly sure that's what CDuv's question means
[13:15] <CDuv> It looks like a snap-ed software (id. pac-vs) did a cache of the DNS resolution result and does not refresh it (after exiting/relaunching the software or even reboot).
[13:17] <CDuv> Using pac-vs (a SSH/RDP/... connection manager) I connected to server.example.com (which resolved to <IP_ADDRESS> at that time). Later on (weeks after), I changed the server.example.com record to other IP address. But it looks like pac-vs is still trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:18] <CDuv> So I am suspecting some DNS cache somewhere (just an intuition)
[13:22] <TJ-> CDuv: how did you 'change' ? in /etc/hosts on the host OS?
[13:23] <CDuv> No, changed it on the domain
[13:23] <TJ-> CDuv: there are 3 ways an application can do a look-up
[13:24] <TJ-> CDuv: if you were edting the DNS zone file, did you increment the serial number ?
[13:26] <CDuv> Sorry, forgot to mention that SSH-connecting via pac-vs fails, but connecting via `ssh server.example.com` (out of snapd thus) succeeds.
[13:27] <CDuv> But as I said, the DNS is just an intuition... as I'm new to snap-stuff and already had to do some specific things so that my SSH key was available to pac-vs (by default, it's not)
[13:27] <TJ-> CDuv: in regular SSH it is possible to save the hostname/IP in ~/.ssh/config. I wonder if pac is doing something similar under the hood
[13:28] <TJ-> CDuv: best to ask the pac developers
[13:32] <Net|> is dooble browser to be included with ubuntu ?
[13:35] <ioria> !info dooble xenial
[13:41] <sauna> I used mdadm --stop and remove. This removed md0 from sdb1, but md0 is still under sda1. What can I do ?
[13:42] <sauna> I am doing my first ever raid setup
[13:45] <CDuv> TJ-, close catch... it was the "ssh/known_hosts" file. Removing the old entry (`ssh-keygen -R server.example.com -f ~/snap/pac-vs/common/ssh/known_hosts`) solved it. In the end there was no DNS involved.
[13:49] <Diablosxm> Hi all .Ihave a question about "locale" , when  i try to do "LC_TIME=fr_FR.UTF-8 date +%x" on terminal date still in US format ?
[13:51] <geirha> Diablosxm: are you sure that locale is installed? i.e. is it listed when you run ''locale -a''
[13:58] <Diablosxm> geirha: Yes
[14:01] <sauna> What should be the fstab parameters for xfs partition ?
[14:01] <sauna> defaults ?
[14:06] <WoC> sauna, remove the s
[14:10] <sauna> So I should use inode64 option aswell for XFS filesystem ?
[14:15] <petaflot> Hello! I am running into problems with a dist-upgrade fomr xenial to bionic : https://pastebin.com/pakEiK6b
[14:15] <petaflot> can't seem to get out of that loop....
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: did you add python ppa's to your system?
[14:17] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: yes, but I removed it since. however, it does seem some related packages are still installed and causing the block
[14:17] <petaflot> https://pastebin.com/DtNFWw7z
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: before lts upgrading we reccomend cleaning out your ppa's first, with ppapurge, so all leftovers are gone
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | petaflot
[14:18] <petaflot> I will know this for next time :-/
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: ah, you are on bionic already now?
[14:19] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: not yet, most packages have been installed but I have not rebooted yet. also, I can't seem to install ppa-purge now :-/
[14:19]  * petaflot is a little afraid of rebooting in this state
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: yeah lets tro to fix the dependency hell first :p
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> try
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: what happens when you: apt-get -f install
[14:21] <petaflot> see first pastebin
[14:22] <petaflot> I got to the point where output is constant and doesn't change a bit :-(
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: try dpkg forced purge on the complaining packages
[14:30] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: couldn't find a force-purge option. tried a normal --purge on python3-lib2to3,python3-distutils but dpkg says "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove python3-lib2to3_3.6.7-1 which isn't installed"
[14:30] <petaflot> situation identical...
[14:31] <jost> hi! I
[14:32] <jost> Hi! I have set up a server in the local network, and enabled netbios name resolution on it. Now I'd like to send a netbios query from my machine and see if it answers. How can I do that? Google does not really help :/
[14:32]  * petaflot knows way too little about netbios
[14:33] <Mathisen> jost, nmblookup
[14:33] <jost> Mathisen: thanks :-)
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: think its the new bionic python trying to overwrite the old python dirs
[14:35] <yossarianuk> hi people !  Can anyone confirm if the 18.04 version of ffmpeg supports (out the box, eithout recompiling) NVENC
[14:35] <yossarianuk> ffmpeg -encoders |grep -i nv  - shows a few lines like ' V..... h264_nvenc           NVIDIA NVENC H.264 encoder (codec h264)'
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: dpkg -P --force-depends yourpackage
[14:36] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: I would phrase it "apt is slipping on it's own vomit" but other than that I agree with you
[14:37] <craigbass76> I need a couple of fedora or cent systems to dork with. Anyone want to weigh in on what a resource hog that will be if I run them both in virtual box?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> craigbass76: system specs and ubuntu version on the host?
[14:39] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: <your_cmd> libpython3.6-stdlib seemed to do something good : it's now removing all the packages I previously requested
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !yay | petaflot
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: after the cleanup: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade once more
[14:40] <craigbass76> lotuspsychje, it's a newer Dell laptop, 18.04.  I will need to wait a little...
[14:40] <petaflot> oho, apt full-upgrade is new to me
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: whats purged, you can always reinstall later
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: main deal is to get you out the apft hell first
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> *apt
[14:44] <petaflot> while I'm here, somebody may know how to prevent ubuntu from installing every possible en_* locale? I only need C (and french)
[14:45] <tarzeau> anyone remembers r-type, the game?
[14:45] <Mathisen> tarzeau, yes
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: what about it
[14:46] <tarzeau> i've got a package for a remake of it called prototype, but i'm too lazy to write an ITP bug mail, and the manual page: http://phd-sid.ethz.ch/debian/prototype/
[14:46] <tarzeau> if anyone wants to test play it, or help with the packaging, i'll maintain it in debian, and ubuntu will get a copy
[14:46]  * petaflot was just 5 years old at that time, 5 years before his first PC
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info geki3 | tarzeau too late :p
[14:47] <tarzeau> likewise with stunt car racer, hydra castle labyrinth, and friking shark
[14:48] <tarzeau> but prototype has the nicer gameplay/graphics imho
[14:48] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: I'll be back if needed. some 1700+ packages to install. either case, thanks for you time
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: welcome mate
[14:49] <mustmodify> Good morning. I'm having some weird sign-on issues. I know this may not be the correct channel, but I'm hoping someone can redirect me.
[14:51] <mustmodify> I have a video of the issue but I can't seem to get the link... sorry for the dealy.
[14:52] <leftyfb> mustmodify: sign-on issues to what?
[14:56] <mustmodify> Yeah, I can't remember what it's called... but when you first boot ubuntu there's a sign-in screen used by most GUIs, right?
[14:56] <olabaz> hey, my grub  menu is really slow. It takes for ever from when I hit down arrow to switch boot option to it being displayed on screen. Any ideas?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: are you reffering to gdm3 ?
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: can we have a few more details of your situation? like ubuntu version? how many Os in grub list? system up to date?
[14:59] <olabaz> ok, I recently installed ubuntu 18.04 and I have it on my 1TB ssd, and I also have windows10 on a seperate 128GBssd. System should be up to date as I do apt update frequently
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: thanks, so is it grub itself loading slow, or the overall speed of moving arrows?
[15:01] <olabaz> the screen pops up quickly
[15:01] <olabaz> but then there is a time delay between any action I do
[15:01] <olabaz> so if i scroll or hit enter it takes a while to process
[15:02] <olabaz> also, I have a WQHD monitor if that makes a difference
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: wich Os boots by default?
[15:02] <olabaz> the default selected one is ubuntu
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: so when you want to enter windows, you get the slowness selecting right?
[15:03] <olabaz> yeah
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: have you edit grub config yourself?
[15:03] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: never
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: can you pastebin us your grub config please?
[15:04] <olabaz> is that /etc/grub.d
[15:04] <olabaz> ?
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: etc/default/grub
[15:06] <mustmodify> https://photos.app.goo.gl/SsLKRzGomqiKpydT6
[15:06] <olabaz> https://pastebin.com/bvGFYHii
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: doesnt look abnormal
[15:09] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: I noticed when I scroll I there is like a refresh that happens. And the menu reloads from top to bottom
[15:09] <olabaz> not sure if i'm describing it well. but kind of like how an image loads on dialup
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[15:09] <olabaz> nvidia
[15:09] <olabaz> 940mx
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: wich driver is active there on ubuntu?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: wich ubuntu release is that?
[15:10] <olabaz> let me see...
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: sudo lshw -C video will show at bottom driver=
[15:11] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: driver=nouveau
[15:12] <mustmodify> lotuspsychje_: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SsLKRzGomqiKpydT6
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: ok, in your grub i see a high res on this line, here's mine: #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[15:12] <mustmodify> I guess it isn't universal. I didn't think I was using gnome, but maybe so. Anyway, any thoughts about why I can't login?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: maybe its lagging because a very high resolution?
[15:13] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: ok, i'll change it, it's very hard to read anyway cuz it's so small right now
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: lets talk here about it
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: so, wich ubuntu version are you on?
[15:14] <mustmodify> 18.
[15:14] <mustmodify> I can't remember if it's 18.04 or the other.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: that login screen background doesnt seem like 18.04
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: looks more like a 12.04 or 14.04
[15:15] <mustmodify> it's not.
[15:15] <blackflow> unity on bionic, tho' ?
[15:16] <mustmodify> However, I did install a "lightweight" gui to avoid using resources.
[15:16] <blackflow> mustmodify: so that's LightDM then?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> mustmodify, lsb_release -a
[15:16] <mustmodify> Yes, that's it.
[15:17] <mustmodify> BluesKaj: Can't get to a command prompt because I can't login. Can't remote it because apparently it isn't at its previous IP.
[15:17] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: ok, just restarted and that fixed it! Thank you!
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: your card is also an optimus card, reccomended is installing an nvidia driver (ubuntu-drivers list) and enable the performance mode
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> olabaz: welcome
[15:18] <mustmodify> Oh, forgot I could find connected device IPs on my router...
[15:18] <olabaz> lotuspsychje: ok i'll look into that. thans
[15:18] <tonyt> mustmodify ctrl+f2 dpesnt wpork?
[15:18] <blackflow> mustmodify: can you ctrl-alt-F3 (for example) for anoter tty?
[15:18] <mustmodify> at that screen?
[15:18] <blackflow> at login screen, yes
[15:19] <tonyt> +alt+ctrl+f2 that is
[15:19] <mustmodify> ok. Just felt like something you would do on boot, sorry for the dumb q.
[15:19] <mustmodify> c+a+f2 went to a console, which is great.
[15:19] <mustmodify> 18.04.1
[15:20] <mustmodify> I'm in.
[15:20] <mustmodify> perhaps syslog will know why I couldn't login?
[15:21] <blackflow> mustmodify: I'd start with the logs, yes, or journal
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: would be also handy to know what exactly your changed on your system in the past? installed lightdm and unity? purged gdm3 and gnome?
[15:28] <pdkl> hi , its been years  (warty warhog) since i used ubuntu. snaps seem slow, in my case vscode loads up slow via snap
[15:28] <mustmodify> blackflow: ok, very helpful, thanks
[15:28] <mustmodify> lotuspsychje: very helpful, thanks.
[15:28] <pdkl> however if i  just install the debian pkg, it behaves normal
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: wich ubuntu version are you on please?
[15:28] <pdkl>  work got me a new desktop unit to work on, it came pre installed with ubuntu
[15:28] <pdkl> 18.10
[15:29] <mustmodify> lotuspsychje_: I recently upgraded from 16 to 18. It was a giant mess. Networking issues, etc. It's still not back to 100%.
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: system specs up to date to handle things?
[15:29] <pdkl> looks like a polished gnome, so no need to go over the fuss of installing a different distro
[15:29] <pdkl> yes sir, 32 gb ram, 3 SSDs , and 8700k OC with watecoller
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: keep in mind, 18.10 is a non-lts, for a more stable experience try LTS
[15:30] <pdkl> well it came installed with 18.10
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: wich brand is that?
[15:31] <pdkl> digitalstorm
[15:32] <younder> Have a link to how to set up hexchat? I am tired of setting nick and password manually every time.
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: wich a beast liek that, things should get smooth indeed
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> younder: look into SASL login method on hexchat
[15:32] <pdkl> the proj file i use sucks up a lot of power/memory
[15:33] <pdkl> where does snap keeps it logs at?
[15:33] <pdkl> i tried the flatpak verson, but you cant install dev tools
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: i would try things on 18.04.1 LTS, see if you can get a more stable experience
[15:35] <pdkl> apparently im not the only one having issues with flatpak security  model.
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: can you get your work done, with packages from the apt repos?
[15:36] <pdkl> yeah thats what im doing right now, but i wanted to be hip and cool and use flatpak/snap
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: well latest shiny bling isnt always best :p
[15:37] <pdkl> i know :( i cant help myself.
[15:38] <pdkl> i honestly dont care about what distro i use, i do care about what i can do with it. like pypy3 is a snap
[15:38] <pdkl> flatpak has some cool things, like steam
[15:38] <pdkl> and winepak
[15:38] <blackflow> apt install steam
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: well you are in #ubuntu here, we strongly advice ubuntu :p
[15:39] <pdkl> i used warty warhog years ago, then whatever distro worked with my hardware at the time.
[15:39] <pdkl> i love opensuse tw
[15:40] <pdkl> blackflow, apt install overwatch
[15:40] <pdkl> on a side note, the theme is really polished, and the right amount of darkness and light in 18.10
[15:40] <pdkl> its easy on the eyes. and smooth
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> pdkl: for discussions, please come to #ubuntu-discuss
[15:45] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: it looks like everything is fixed or about to be :-) I may not know tonight though, cuz I'd like to resume an rsync before reboot
[15:46] <petaflot> I really appreciate how it went :]
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: if apt doesnt complain anymore, your good to go
[15:46] <mustmodify> I have logfiles that aren't automatically truncating. What's the proper way to do that? I assume I need to add a task to cron. Do I want to move the file? Or copy it to another name and truncate?
[15:46] <mustmodify> Or what?
[15:46] <mustmodify> Actually, nm. Obvious now I should google first.
[15:47] <c06> hi all
[15:47] <c06> i created ubuntu vms using virsh. and i configured network as :    host_vlan_iface-> br -> vm_iface -> vm_iface_vlan-> br_vm
[15:48] <c06> vm is not able to reach the host machine via vlan bridge(br_vm) . but if i assign ip directly to vm_iface_vlan, am able to reach host machine.
[15:48] <c06> any suggestion on this..!!
[15:49] <compdoc> vlan means you use a managed switch?
[15:50] <c06> its like private network
[15:50] <compdoc> what version of ubuntu?
[15:50] <c06> 16.04
[15:51] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: well there's still something about python3-magic being uninstallable... I'm now looking at the ppa-remove thingy
[15:51] <compdoc> you created the bridges and interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:51] <c06> yes
[15:52] <compdoc> can you post the file in pastebin.com?
[15:52] <c06> yeah sure one sec
[15:53] <compdoc> you have just one nic? or more?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: you will have to recall the ppa you added once
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: or maybe it was something you installed manually?
[15:56] <c06> compdoc: i have dedicated nic for each Bridges
[15:56] <c06> https://paste.linux.community/view/006185b0 -
[15:56] <c06> you can find detailed info here both host and Vm
[15:57] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: I added it manually ; I believe it was deadsnakes but I already deleted the config files. no more browser, so I need to go to another machine
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: feel free to add the pastebin about the complain
[16:03] <compdoc> c06, that looks complicated. can you also pastebin ifconfig, or ip a ?
[16:04] <Younder> Learning to setup a linux system using the command line interface is a worthwile experience. Try a ubuntu server in a virtual box. You will understand a lot more of how it works ;)'
[16:05] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/iYDG0nzS
[16:06] <Younder> Most of the stuff you forget. Like I have set up hexchat before.
[16:07] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: that may help too https://pastebin.com/GxBhGwqu
[16:07] <fuxaches> The three Ubuntu machines I have running encountered this error this week. Is there a concern or a way to fix it? Here's the output from command line:   https://pastebin.com/NHvw5WDn
[16:08] <petaflot> Younder: quote "Since XChat is open source, it’s perfectly legal." really? everywhere? no illegal crypto anywhere?
[16:09] <c06> compdoc: one sec
[16:09] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: you know what's sad? I installed that PPA because I needed python3 with GTK - and I never got it to work
[16:09] <TJ-> fuxaches: "Please ignore the following error about deb-systemd-helper not finding samba-ad-dc.service."
[16:11] <fuxaches> TJ-: Okay thanks, it's just when I run another sudo apt update / sudo apt upgrade, it tries running that update with all the same messages.... So, can I safely assume they will fix this next update?
[16:11] <NerdTheThird> am i crazy or "tree" is installed by default in ubuntu 18.10?
[16:12] <TJ-> fuxaches: the way the package is ... packaged ... means it can't prevent deb-systemd-helper emitting the error, so it warns you in advance to ignore it since samba isn't running as a Domain Controller
[16:12] <petaflot> fuxaches: if you fall into a loop like that, you usually _have_ to try something else
[16:15] <fuxaches> TJ-:  Thank you...
[16:18] <c06> compdoc: https://paste.linux.community/view/01f0d553
[16:19] <compdoc> wow, you bond two nics as well?
[16:21] <c06> no only one nic br-san one
[16:26] <hatchetjack> hey
[16:26] <hatchetjack> I have constant disk activity in my ubntu 18.04
[16:26] <hatchetjack> it's causing my PC to be really freaking slow
[16:26] <hatchetjack> any ideas?
[16:27] <hatchetjack> need to find and kill with extremem prejuidice whatever is doing this
[16:27] <hatchetjack> I already killed firefox but it still happens
[16:28] <blackflow> hatchetjack: take a look with iotop
[16:29] <hatchetjack> blackflow: what am I looking for?
[16:29] <blackflow> hatchetjack: start iotop and hit 'a' for cumulative view, the process in question will surface at the top
[16:29] <blackflow> you're looking at "need to find and kill with extremem prejuidice whatever is doing this
[16:29] <blackflow> *for
[16:30] <hatchetjack> 985 be/3 root          0.00 B    360.00 K  0.00 %  4.92 % [jbd2/dm-1-8]
[16:30] <hatchetjack> that one is at top ^
[16:30] <hatchetjack> not sure what it is though
[16:30] <hatchetjack> 2.18 % brave [Chrome_CacheThr]
[16:30] <hatchetjack> that's number 2 in the list ^
[16:31] <hatchetjack> ah that jbd2 is ext4 journalling
[16:31] <hatchetjack> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113516
[16:32] <hatchetjack> found that in google search ^
[16:32] <hatchetjack> bit dated though
[16:32] <hatchetjack> surely it's fixed by now
[16:32] <boredguy> any unix flavour of ubuntu?
[16:33] <hatchetjack> boredguy: what do you mean?
[16:33] <hatchetjack> boredguy: I'm just using the stock ubuntu
[16:34] <boredguy> meaning is there a version of ubuntu running on the unix/bsd kernel?
[16:34] <hatchetjack> ah
[16:34] <hatchetjack> this is linux
[16:38] <Strykar> I'm unable to install dnet-common on 18.10, what's causing this error - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wJkzTvPKzZ/
[16:38] <Strykar> I've tried using aptitude, and it has the same issue, no info on what's causing it
[16:43] <lordcirth> Strykar, have you done an apt update && apt full-upgrade recently?
[16:45] <Strykar> lordcirth, apt update often, dont think I did a dist-upgrade
[16:46] <lordcirth> Strykar, try doing one.  It's possible there's a version mismatch
[16:46] <lordcirth> That's the first thing to check when something core like apt breaks
[16:49] <petaflot> lotuspsychje: got it. some leftover python stuff to purge. :-) thanks a lot, I will definitely write down the command you gave me
[16:53] <kidhash> Hey. I'm having a weird display corruption issue since upgrading to Ubuntu 18.10. This problem happens reliably if I log in immediately upon bootup, and usually doesn't happen if I wait 15 seconds or so once gdm3 has loaded. The display becomes all corrupted (like someone was using a large magnet behind an old CRT display), even on an external monitor, yet taking a screenshot shows the display working normally. This happens when I boot
[16:53] <kidhash> into 'Ubuntu' xsession, but not when I use 'Ubuntu on Wayland'.
[16:57] <Pdrome> kidhas do you have an NVIDIA RTX gpu?
[16:57] <Pdrome> kidhash
[16:58] <Strykar> lordcirth, apt update/upgrade doesnt fix it. that looks like an issue in the package script
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> petaflot: fixxed now?
[16:58] <lordcirth> Strykar, yeah, but the question is, did the package author typo, or did update.rc get updated and change it's arguments?
[16:59] <lordcirth> Strykar, you should probably read the install script and see what it's trying to do.
[16:59] <kidhash> @Pdrome Nope, Intel HD Graphics 4400
[17:00] <Pdrome> kidhash i only asked as i have seen bad rtx cards gave artifacts but as you have intel i have no idea
[17:01] <kidhash> @Pdrome: Well thanks for the question. I've made a post on ubuntuforums too, and it's good information to include I'm sure.
[17:07] <REDHAT> yo
[17:07] <Strykar> lordcirth, trying to find it now
[17:08] <gambl0re> there seems to be a lot of talk around manjaro past few months. i just currently installed ubuntu but now considering switching distros.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | gambl0re
[17:13] <gijoe3k> Hey guys and gals. I was wondering, have any of you experienced a weird bug in Ubuntu 18.04 or 18.10 where suddenly the shortcut to open a terminal(Ctrl + Alt + T) suddenly stops working?
[17:14] <gijoe3k> I have tried ressetting the shortcuts to defaults and tried creating a new shortcut to open the terminal but to no avail :(
[17:15] <gijoe3k> The only thing i have found on the web is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1759462
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: looks like a usefull bug
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: did you add yourself affected?
[17:17] <gijoe3k> No, was thinking of doing that. I haven't submitted a bug before, figure since I have been using Linux for years I should start giving back i suppose.
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: login to launchpad and add yourself, goes pretty easy and quick, perhaps add your story to the bug aswell
[17:19] <gijoe3k> Story? Just what I have done to try to fix it you mean?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: might be interesting to describe this occurs over several ubuntu versions at your side
[17:19] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, gotcha
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: info matters like: kernel versions, ubuntu versions, steps tryed,etc
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: and thank you for adding it, this helps the community and yourself
[17:21] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, sure will. I figure if I can't give money ATM or code i suppose i can least submit bugs and give info.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: thats the spirit :p
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: i see alot of unity in that bug, does it happen on gnome for you?
[17:24] <gambl0re> is installing stuff on kubuntu the same way you would install ubuntu?
[17:25] <theCorvus> gambl0re, the main difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, etc... is the default desktop manager
[17:25] <theCorvus> the insides are basicly the same
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: you mean like installing packages from apt?
[17:25] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, yeah, running a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.10 with Gnome 3.30.1 on a Thinkpad X220 on a IBM model M keyboard.
[17:25] <gambl0re> lotuspsychje, i want to install a new theme
[17:26] <gambl0re> i searched how to install theme on kubuntu but results return ubuntu guides
[17:26] <gambl0re> but i should be able to use them?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !themes | gambl0re kde
[17:27] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, I have done all the updates. Have installed a several gnome extensions. As soon as the problem started I disabled all the running gnome extensions to see if it helped but no go
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: a few ideas to test: fireup a liveusb and test your hotkeys, test from another user, test on wayland
[17:28] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, good idea
[17:29] <gambl0re> http://kubuntu-art.org/ ... i dont know japanese
[17:30] <gijoe3k> brb
[17:41] <solsTiCe> does not seem related to kubuntu at all
[17:45] <rsevero> Hi. Since I upgraded to 18.04 I can't mount pen drives by just clicking on the pen drive on the file manager. I get a "Failed to mount... Not authorized to perform operation" error message. I bet it's some kind of problem with polkit but I can't find how to troubleshoot that. Ideias?
[17:47] <gijoe3k> @lotuspsychje, Can confirm it works just fine on a live usb stick of 18.10
[17:47] <gijoe3k> ?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: add that to the bug please
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> gijoe3k: perhaps also mention the kernel version used on the live vs your current kernel
[17:55] <Rapture> not sure if this is OS specific or not but I got a "lsb_release invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x24201ca, order=0, oom_score_adj=0" on ubuntu 16.04.5 - Not sure what I should do
[17:56] <teward> OOM Killer indicates you're out of memory heh
[18:53] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I have Ubuntu 18.04 MATE 64-bit.  Do I have GTK?  I am trying to build VICE from source and to be honest I don't really know what GTK is
[18:57] <lordcirth> Richard_Cavell, GTK is a graphics toolkit, for making windows, buttons, etc.  You will have the runtime libgtk, but you will probably need the dev version to compile.
[18:57] <lordcirth> Richard_Cavell, 'apt install libgtk-3-dev' should be the right package
[19:12] <zirikili> Is there a way to set a root only variable not visible for other users?
[19:15] <lordcirth> zirikili, what are you trying to do?
[19:25] <B105PH3RE> I have a steamos-session problem if anyhow can help it woulb greatly appreciated
[19:25] <B105PH3RE> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libmodeswitch_inhibitor.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (cannot open shared object file): ignored.
[19:25] <B105PH3RE> it boots me to the login screen
[19:25] <leftyfb> B105PH3RE: you'll have to contact Valve for support with their product
[19:25] <teward> B105PH3RE: Steam OS is not Ubuntu, and we don't support it here, you will need to talk to Valve to get assistance with Steam OS, as leftyfb indicated.
[19:26] <B105PH3RE> i sure I missing a package or a session variable maybe
[19:26] <B105PH3RE> i have ubuntu 16.04 with a steamos session installed. so its NOT steamos
[19:27] <zirikili> lordcirth: I want a process I run as root can see some environment variables. But other processes dont see it.
[19:27] <leftyfb> B105PH3RE: since steamos-session is not part of the official Ubuntu build, then yes, it is in fact a Steam problem and not an ubuntu problem
[19:27] <leftyfb> zirikili: try export
[19:27] <B105PH3RE> I know this but maybe some can point me in the direction... but thanks for your help leftyfb and teward it greatly helped my situation
[19:28] <lordcirth> zirikili, ok, but *why* do you need that?  Does it have to be an env variable?  Do you want to run all root programs with this variable, or just one?  Is it a security risk if non-root processes can read it, or just a setting?
[19:29] <zirikili> lordcirth: just a setting. other root programs could read it.
[19:31] <lordcirth> zirikili, ok.  If the program will only be called with bash, you can just edit /root/.bashrc.
[19:33] <zirikili> lordcirth: thanks
[19:33] <lordcirth> export FOO=X
[20:34] <Richard_Cavell> Is it possible to create a list of installed packages to enable a person to reinstall them after a fresh install?
[20:36] <xitan> My Ubuntu installation overrode my windows boot loader. /dev/sda only contains a nfts partition with Windows itself. /dev/sdb contains 3 partitions: 512mb fat32 with /boot/efi, 732mb ext4 /boot and Ubuntu itself. "os-prober" does not detect a Windows installation and neither does "update-grub". Any ideas how I can fix this easily?
[20:37] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: yes, but do not do that. Make a list but only use it for reference
[20:39] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, I need to upgrade my machine from 16.04 to 18.04 but I can't just do a dist-upgrade because of certain issues.  I need to do a complete reinstall and then install all my packages
[20:39] <EriC^^> xitan: seems like windows is installed in legacy mode, and ubuntu was installed in uefi mode
[20:39] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: ok, make a list of the packages you know you need to install DO NOT install a list of packages taken verbatim from another machine
[20:39] <EriC^^> xitan: could you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -ls" ?
[20:40] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, blimey, are you sure?
[20:40] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: yes. It's a bad idea. Do not do it
[20:40] <EriC^^> leftyfb: if he can rat out the dependencies and stuff and just get the major packages why not
[20:40] <leftyfb> EriC^^: as I said, use the list for reference
[20:41] <EriC^^> i still mean programatically
[20:41] <xitan> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qgXCqqJGk4/
[20:41] <EriC^^> TJ- had some debfoster deborphan trick or something, if he's here maybe he can share it
[20:42] <TJ-> huh huh?
[20:42] <EriC^^> maybe look over the list real quick and remove anything other than the main programs you want then feed the list to apt-get
[20:42] <leftyfb> starting with anything that starts with lib*
[20:42] <EriC^^> TJ-: that trick to get the list of installed packages on the system, minus any dependencies they brought in
[20:43] <TJ-> EriC^^: "sudo debfoster -q" then "debfoster --show-keepers"
[20:43] <EriC^^> TJ-: thanks, Richard_Cavell ^
[20:43] <TJ-> the "-q" builds the initial database
[20:44] <lsfc1914> Hello. I still have the problem which I wrote about a couple of hours ago. I am using ubuntu 16.04. I recently did apt-get update and since then I cannot open firefox. The version of firefox is 63.0.3. I get the following error in the console "Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: <data>:1:34: Expected ')' in color definition".  When I try to open firefox a window appears and says "Firefox had a problem and crashed". And no matter i
[20:44] <EriC^^> Richard_Cavell: sudo xargs -a /path/to/list apt-get install -y     should give it to apt-get to install them
[20:44] <leftyfb> TJ-: doesn't that only work when starting from a base install?
[20:44] <lsfc1914> And no matter if I click Quit Firefox or Restart Firefox nothing happens
[20:45] <lsfc1914> I also tried removing firefox and installing an older version but still with no success
[20:45] <EriC^^> Richard_Cavell: there's also this command     comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)      that gives a pretty short one, also look over before feeding anything
[20:45] <TJ-> leftyfb: I've not been following so I'm not sure what the issue is, but debfoster uses the dpkg /var/lib/dpkg/ database
[20:45] <leftyfb> lsfc1914: try deleting/moving your ~/.mozilla and try it again
[20:46] <xitan> EriC^^, since /dev/sda (Windows) is using gpt it should be UEFI afaik.
[20:46] <EriC^^> xitan: yeah, that's very odd, there's no space before the partition on sda to have an efi partition though
[20:46] <EriC^^> xitan: it used to boot by itself? just sda?
[20:47] <lsfc1914> leftyfb, I deleted the directory but still no success
[20:47] <leftyfb> lsfc1914: what version of ubuntu?
[20:47] <Richard_Cavell> TJ-, that debfoster works really well
[20:47] <xitan> I think Windows installed its boot loader on /dev/sdb and the os itself on /dev/sda. At this point I could boot without problems. Then I installed Ubuntu and it overrode the boot loader on /dev/sdb with Grub.
[20:47] <Richard_Cavell> that's just what I needed!
[20:47] <xitan> And now I can only boot to Ubuntu.
[20:48] <EriC^^> xitan: hmm, what does "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi" give?
[20:49] <xitan> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ftSmFQYHHY/
[20:49] <EriC^^> xitan: if you chose to erase disk and install ubuntu i guess it'd do that
[20:49] <EriC^^> xitan: do you have a windows installation usb?
[20:49] <lsfc1914> leftyfb, 16.04 (mate)
[20:49] <xitan> Yes
[20:49] <leftyfb> lsfc1914: sudo apt install --reinstall firefox
[20:50] <EriC^^> xitan: boot it and follow the instructions here https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln300987/how-to-repair-the-efi-bootloader-on-a-gpt-hdd-for-windows-7-8-81-and-10-on-your-dell-pc?lang=en
[20:50] <lsfc1914> leftyfb, also tried this but didn't work
[20:51] <lsfc1914> if anybody knows what kind of warning is this and where/how can be fixed
[20:52] <lsfc1914> Every single time I try to open firefox, the crash report window shows up and firefox does not start
[20:52] <teward> lsfc1914: did you have any kind of custom themes installed at all?
[20:53] <ioria> lsfc1914, switch theme, like   Adwaita
[20:53] <lsfc1914> teward, I have not installed custom themes
[20:54] <lsfc1914> ioria, how to change the theme
[20:54] <lsfc1914> I can't open firefox :|
[20:54] <ioria> lsfc1914, unitytweak (if you use unity)
[20:54] <xitan> EriC^^, I will try it. Thanks!
[20:55] <ioria> !info unity-tweak-tool | lsfc1914
[20:55] <EriC^^> xitan: np
[20:57] <lsfc1914> ioria, I am using gnome
[20:57] <ioria> !info gnome-tweak
[20:57] <lsfc1914> is there something similar for gnome
[20:58] <ioria> !info gnome-tweaks
[20:58] <ioria> lsfc1914, my idea is that you manually changed some .css file ?
[20:59] <OerHeks> gnome-tweak-tool,..  i would remove the ~/.mozilla folder and start again
[20:59] <lsfc1914> no no
[20:59] <lsfc1914> I absolutely didn't change anything
[20:59] <lsfc1914> OerHeks, removed that directory but no luck
[21:00] <ioria> lsfc1914, what theme is at  play atm ?
[21:07] <xitan> EriC^^, it worked. Thanks a lot!
[21:09] <MannyL> On Xbuntu I have no sound on my displauy (a TV over HDMI) help please
[21:11] <EriC^^> xitan: great!
[21:15] <DUKENUKEM> is there a way to install dbgsym packages for a non-supported (old) ubuntu version?
[21:15] <DUKENUKEM> i was using ddebs.ubuntu.com found in all of the online tutorials, but i dont think this version of ubuntu is on that server
[21:16] <tgm4883> DUKENUKEM: the recommendation would be to upgrade to a supported version
[21:16] <DUKENUKEM> i cannot do that
[21:16] <DUKENUKEM> maybe ill just comb google looking for the package
[21:17] <OerHeks> see the eolupgrade wiki, but really, don't.
[21:17] <DUKENUKEM> havent had any luck though finding it
[21:18] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[21:19] <DUKENUKEM> i am debugging a device driver that is specific to this old kernel version, i need the package linux-image-3.19.0-15-generic-dbgsym
[21:19] <DUKENUKEM> its not just a simple "hey just update the distro!"
[21:20] <OerHeks> if you read that wiki, it gives a hack to use an ancient server
[21:21] <teward> OerHeks: you mean old-releases?  It doesn't have the ddebs for debug symbols AFAICT
[21:21] <OerHeks> oh.. thanks for pointing to that, teward
[21:21] <DUKENUKEM> yeah, i have already updated to use old-releases
[21:21] <DUKENUKEM> no dbgsym
[21:21] <DUKENUKEM> typically you need to add ddebs.ubuntu.com or whatever to get dbgsym packages
[21:22] <teward> DUKENUKEM: given that ddebs is typically only for *supported* releases, I don't think they archive really old dbgsym packages
[21:22] <DUKENUKEM> ok got it
[21:22] <teward> i can't attest to that personally, of course, but it's unlikely the ddebs are still lying around if it's truly an EOL release
[21:22] <teward> and if you can't upgrade then I'd suggest that the issue is the hardware is too old
[21:26] <MannyL> On Xbuntu I have no sound on my display (a TV over HDMI) help please
[21:29] <Pdrome> MannyL you can try in #xubuntu as well
[21:30] <MannyL> Pdrome, thanks I will try there
[21:30] <Pdrome> MannyL i haven't used Xubuntu but are you sure that the correct output is selected in the audio area eg selected hdmi output
[21:59] <S3xyL1nux> how save to install source code kernal 4.19 in ubuntu 18
[22:04] <acu> does anyone know how to find what other apps and versions are pulled when you installed the apps using snap ?
[22:05] <S3xyL1nux> check snap folder
[22:09] <acu> Is there a way to find a list  ? (there are prerequisites - such php modules etc) I guess they would not show in the folder - if yes where -
[22:09] <acu> a list of all the applications snapd pulled prerequisites
[22:12] <S3xyL1nux> i am not usung snap at all ... but u could install any app from snap right now ,,, then use ... find / -iname '*appname*'
[22:12] <S3xyL1nux> using*
[22:21] <hggdh> S3xyL1nux: there are mainline builds available for testing (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds)
[22:21] <hggdh> S3xyL1nux: but they are for *testing*, not continuous use. Mainline kernels miss the Ubuntu-specific changes
[22:28] <S3xyL1nux> hggdh in case something goes wrong ,,,, can i just run the previous kernel from grub and it will boot normally ?\
[22:28] <hggdh> S3xyL1nux: as long as you do not remove the official kernel, yes.
[22:29] <hggdh> S3xyL1nux: just keep in mind you will be completely off support
[22:31] <S3xyL1nux> hggdh great
[22:36] <joop_> 'Evening everyone.
[23:00] <Strykar> lordcirth, I was asked to open a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnprogs/+bug/1805702
[23:22] <Krenair> $ sudo apt install -y wireshark-qt 2>&1 | pastebinit
[23:22] <Krenair> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CtZzqfmkRq/
[23:22] <Krenair> 404 not found from packages in security.ubuntu.com ?
[23:23] <Krenair> looks like apt-get update fixes it
[23:34] <chovy> how do i create a knoppix bootable usb drive on ubuntu?
[23:34] <chovy> usb-creator only seems to work with ubuntu isos
[23:45] <EriC^^> chovy: you could try to "dd" the iso to the usb
[23:46] <EriC^^> usually the OS page should mention how to install to a usb etc, maybe check there?
[23:53] <chrismatthews> How can I show that ubuntu requires a keyfile to be used to log in?


[20:53] <acmeinc> ailo, i have 8gb of memory if you need someone to do some testing
[20:57] <ailo> acmeinc: According to Ralph on the mailing list, there's some problem with his amd64 system, not getting access to all of his memory
[21:00] <ailo> He showed the output of the command uname -a, which indicated that he is running a amd64 system
[22:08] <acmeinc> i can confirm my home system recognized all 8gb when it was plugged in.  I recently downgraded since my mobo isn't linux friendly, so I can double confirm that in a few days.
[22:08] <acmeinc> but, i can do any testing you'd need.
[22:09] <ailo> acmeinc: I assume there is no problem then. It would be strange, since it's not really a -lowlatency problem anyway
[22:09] <ailo> He probably has shared memory with his graphic card or something
[22:09] <acmeinc> agreed 2x
[22:13] <len-dt> ailo, odd that it seems only to be 64bit and 32 bit kernel is ok. It may be more interesting to fill up 4G on the same machine with a 32bit PAE and see if the video craps out..
[22:14] <ailo> len-dt: At first I assumed it was the -pae the was the problem, but it doesn't seem like anyone has had any. If there was a problem with the -lowlatency version, I would suspect it was actually not a real -pae, like when -lowlatency was actually not a -lowlatency because of the wrong config
[22:15] <len-dt> ailo, ya, but he says the PAE is fine.
[22:15] <ailo> He does?
[22:16] <len-dt> "> I noticed that for another 64bit Linux on my machine too, while a 32bit
[22:16] <len-dt> > Linux with a PAE is ok. I searched the Internet and found out that
[22:16] <len-dt> > several people on different Linux have the same problem.
[22:16] <len-dt> >
[22:16] <len-dt> quote from the email...
[22:17] <len-dt> So if the 64bit kernel is correctly setting aside memory for the video, does that mean the PAE is willing to write over it?
[22:18] <len-dt> ailo, ^^
[22:19] <ailo> At least it doesn't seem to be -lowlatency related :P
[22:19] <len-dt> nope.
[22:20] <ailo> According to some mail responses on the LAU list, there is such a thing as soft irq's which makes it possible to tune rtprio for individual devices on the same IRQW
[22:21] <ailo> IRQ*
[22:21] <ailo> And for some reason -lowlatency is not doing its' job
[22:23] <ailo> len-dt: Could you check something? I don't have ubuntu installed right now: cat /boot/config-<yourlowlatencykernel> | grep IRQ_FORCED_THREADING
[22:23] <ailo> Not sure exactly what leads to the irq threading, so if you like, grep all instances of IRQ
[22:24] <ailo> Which reminds me, I should see how the rtirq script works on this system. I'll be back later..
[22:30] <ailo> I don't have any rtprio whatsoever :P. whopidoo
[22:30] <ailo> For me it makes no difference at all when it comes to performance though
[23:00] <ailo> len-dt: Actually, the problem is only with the soft irq. Supposedly, only the audio devices are supposed to get raised prio thanks to the rtirq script. On the other hand, they get high prio even without the script, so there's something else at play as well
[23:03] <ailo> That's all for me today. Until next time..