[00:31] <ryanakca> mdke: mind if I port your help.ubuntu.com theme to Kubuntu colors?
[07:54] <mdke> ryanakca: no, not at all. the bzr branch is at https://code.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme
[12:26] <ryanakca> mdke: thanks
[14:30] <newz2000> hey ryanakca, got your note. They've been doing the usability testing just this fall.
[20:59] <ryanakca> newz2000: thanks, and did you want an account for shell/screen?
[20:59] <ryanakca> s/shell/irssi/
[20:59] <newz2000> no, I've got a server, I just haven't been successful with irssi
[20:59] <newz2000> I've thought about one of these irc proxies
[20:59] <newz2000> but never actually done it
[21:00]  * ryanakca nods, okies
[21:00] <newz2000> thanks for the offer though


[22:33] <bkerensa> mm
[22:33] <bkerensa> tgm4883: you coming to OSCON?
[22:34] <Maskil> bkerensa, Are you talking at OSCON or just the both?
[22:35] <bkerensa> Maskil: I am not talking at OSCON this year... I will be helping organize the booth but trying to find enough volunteers because I cannot be there the whole time
[22:35] <bkerensa> Mozilla is sponsoring me to OSCON
[22:35] <bkerensa> :)
[22:35] <bkerensa> So I need to do some Firefox OS engagement from time to time
[22:35] <bkerensa> and that cant happen at the Ubuntu Booth :P
[22:36] <bkero> bkerensa: I'll be there demoing device too


[01:05] <v1s> I am trying to share connection with users on eth and wifi for some reason seems ip's are getting assigned but seems only one of the systems connected is actually able to connect and even able to get ping'd and its kind random depending when rebooted. Any ideas?
[01:07] <v1s> using ubuntu 16.04 server hostapd,dnsmasq
[02:30] <sarnold> v1s: are you doing standard NAT things? maybe pastebin your iptables ocmmands, that might help someone spot the issue
[03:30] <v1s> sarnold: here is my iptable rules http://pastebin.com/R8a8Vnce
[03:32] <v1s> my /etc/network/interface file: http://pastebin.com/S9evC2eD
[03:35] <patdk-lap> that is one very interesting ruleset for iptables
[03:38] <v1s> but is it bad?
[03:38] <patdk-lap> as far as, very loose and insecure? sure
[03:40] <v1s> hostapd conf: http://pastebin.com/zVuUFuQ9
[03:41] <v1s> dnsmasq conf: http://pastebin.com/nB8cYBcP
[03:42] <v1s> the problem is seems only one system is reachable on the network
[03:42] <v1s> security is a later concern
[06:59] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome!
[08:06] <frickler> coreycb: thanks for the update, lets hope that this gets accepted faster than the other stuff that is pending for almost a month now
[09:44] <frickler> coreycb: do you use gbp-pq to manage your patch sets? I'm assume not, because I'm getting something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/19160062/ if I do an import/export. it would be very helpful if you could get that cleaned up some day. (note: I've only just started to use gbp, so maybe I'm doing something wrong here)
[10:04] <cpaelzer> frickler: Hi I'm as new to gbp as you, but isn't gbp pq only needed if you need/want per-release-branch patch queues - maybe that isn't needed (yet)
[10:04] <cpaelzer> well, whatever the reasoning was it is for coreycb to clarify
[10:05] <rbasak> Sounds like the quilt patches just need dep3 headers.
[10:10] <cpaelzer> http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
[11:49] <codepython777> dpkg --set-selections - hangs - how do i fix this?
[12:06] <cpaelzer> codepython777: on what does it hang?
[12:06] <cpaelzer> codepython777: ps axlf on column wchan
[12:06] <cpaelzer> codepython777: or /proc/<pid>/wchan
[12:06] <cpaelzer> rbasak: another bug for me please? (if not I'll try to pick one that wears the right tags)
[12:08] <cpaelzer> codepython777: also it is waiting for stdin, you are feeding a file to it right?
[12:08] <rbasak> cpaelzer: fancy preparing some MySQL SRUs for me? I was going to do those next, but I'd appreciate someone else reviewing the patches, and I can do some sponsorship/triaging/assignments instead perhaps?
[12:09] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I can try to review whatever you point me to
[12:09] <rbasak> OK, let me find them.
[12:09]  * cpaelzer lacks a review experience, but that means room to grow
[12:12] <rbasak> cpaelzer: there are four patches that I think are in Yakkety but need SRUing to Xenial:
[12:12] <rbasak> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=f12dd3fb5387113585a981e2b8d234e81c6a630d
[12:12] <rbasak> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=5d0dc4726f4a7b395c165907765f841547519ce9
[12:12] <rbasak> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=86c9a9052500551d94ed71318e785c5b23b2ff2c
[12:12] <rbasak> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=7897042ea6c65aeb608fb28b4b54639d3dbf3352
[12:13] <rbasak> cpaelzer: finally, https://github.com/ltangvald/mysql-5.7/commit/fa6ea034692 also needs pushing to Debian, adding to Yakkety and SRUing to Xenial, together with the latest MySQL point release (.13 IIRC). pitti already reviewed this one, and had one suggestion (match against start of line or word boundary), so no need for you to look at it, I'm just including for completeness.
[12:14] <rbasak> cpaelzer: some of these fixes are essential for Xenial but also invasive, so I'm being quite cautious, which is why I haven't got round to them yet. So I'd appreciate an additional pair of eyes.
[12:15] <rbasak> cpaelzer: as well as any of your thoughts towards testing
[12:15] <cpaelzer> rbasak: so the task for now would be to backport, prep a debdiff and all needed for an SRU (test descriptions, reasoning) for Xenial of mysql
[12:15] <cpaelzer> rbasak: and then testing around which could be done by any of us, best by both :-)
[12:16] <rbasak> cpaelzer: that's the full task, yes. I don't necessarily intend to hand all of it to you, but at the same time I'm fed up of MySQL having been working on it in Debian so much for a couple of weeks :-/
[12:16] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'll just start and at the end of the day we can check status and pass along among us
[12:16] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm keen to get the SRU done before the 16.04.1 point release. It would be nice to make the ISO image, but my main reason is timing, as more people will mass upgrade to Xenial. So I'm already a bit behind.
[12:16] <rbasak> cpaelzer: thank you :)
[12:17] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm hoping to do one mega-SRU which includes these five patches and the latest upstream microrelease.
[12:17] <coreycb> jamespage, can you add manila to the daily ci for liberty?
[12:19] <coreycb> ddellav, you'll want to get the packages you're testing promoted to liberty-proposed before you test them: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/liberty_versions.html
[12:32] <ddellav> jamespage beisner can one of you guys promote python-glance-store 0.9.2 to liberty-proposed from staging please?
[12:53] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'd like to mark bug 1584234 as dup to bug 1571865 (just as bug 1567884 already is) and then state the master one fixed by SRUing http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=7897042ea6c65aeb608fb28b4b54639d3dbf3352
[12:54] <cpaelzer> ack?
[12:55] <cpaelzer> I see why you are building on digglett :-)
[13:03] <cpaelzer> rbasak: FYI patches almost applied fine, debdiff and changelog prepared - Test design written in pseudocode - now starting with the real work to convert that pseudocode in something that reliably triggers to be our verification after the fix
[13:09] <rbasak> cpaelzer: sorry, just catching up
[13:10] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I think bug 1571865 is separate. Did something refer to that?
[13:10] <rbasak> cpaelzer: this bug is that the default settings do not work if the system has low RAM. I've hit that myself. I think a proper fix might be to detect that situation and offer different default settings or something, but I'm not planning that for this current SRU.
[13:11] <cpaelzer> rbasak: essentially 1584234 is a special case of 1571865, it fails to start - just instead of tweaked config it is (actually any sort of) insufficient system config
[13:11] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'm fine not linking them, just thought so
[13:12] <rbasak> cpaelzer: they're different, IMHO, because they have separate root causes. So as we apply fixes for different root causes, we want to track progress separately.
[13:12] <rbasak> cpaelzer: there is perhaps a third bug that the error message is unhelpful.
[13:13] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I just came by as I searched which one to adress with the last fix you linked - you don't have to over-work that now - you have time until the final SRU takes place to modify changelogs :-)
[13:13] <cpaelzer> rbasak: didn't want to stall whatever you do
[13:43] <rbasak> cpaelzer: FYI, I'm fixing up/testing https://github.com/ltangvald/mysql-5.7/commit/fa6ea034692, since that will block you soon.
[13:44] <rbasak> My plan is to push to Debian VCS and cherry-pick into Yakkety. Then we can SRU everything together.
[13:46] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'm testing those two options already in the scope of the "fail with better error message" bug
[13:46] <cpaelzer> rbasak: but I see how auto-converting them is a better fix
[13:46] <rbasak> cpaelzer: OK. Note also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1596056 which will make it slightly better.
[13:46] <cpaelzer> rbasak: fyi http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=f12dd3fb5387113585a981e2b8d234e81c6a630d alone is incomplete as it is not removing it from the .install file
[13:47] <rbasak> cpaelzer: also there is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=7897042ea6c65aeb608fb28b4b54639d3dbf3352
[13:47] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I guess we could SRU that patch as well
[13:48] <cpaelzer> rbasak: you already added that to the list I should watch before :-)
[13:48] <rbasak> Oh, sorry :)
[13:48] <rbasak> So many patches!
[13:48] <cpaelzer> hehe
[13:48] <cpaelzer> you said mega SRU
[13:48] <cpaelzer> you get mega SRU
[13:48] <rbasak> :)
[13:48] <cpaelzer> That is why my testing isn't so much about testing, but about documenting the shortest possible way to trigger&verify an issue
[13:51] <rbasak> cpaelzer: wrt. not dropping from the install file, good catch. There's also http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-mysql/mysql.git/commit/?id=b79c5b96d881b1d93f9da48f78d3e7155fb9cd84 which I think I forgot to mention.
[13:51] <rbasak> cpaelzer: debian-start still remains afterwards, but becomes a no-op.
[13:52] <cpaelzer> rbasak: that is just what I added :-)
[13:52] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I thought that was a safer approach than dropping debian-start entirely, in case users have locally modified upstart files.
[13:52] <rbasak> cpaelzer: thanks :)
[13:52] <rbasak> cpaelzer: mega SRU == complexity :-/
[13:53] <beisner> hi ddellav, promoted python-glance-store 0.9.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0 to uca liberty-proposed re: bug 1596973
[14:00] <v1s> I am running hostapd / dnsmasq but only one of the connected clients is reachable any one have any idea why that maybe?
[14:02] <lordievader> They get an ip?
[14:03] <v1s> yes
[14:04] <v1s> they get ip address
[14:05] <lordievader> Do they respond to arp?
[14:07] <v1s> do u mean $arp IPADDRESS
[14:08] <lordievader> Do they respond when you arpping them?
[14:10] <v1s> yes they both respond when arping them
[14:12] <coreycb> ddellav, jamespage: trove and ironic uploaded for yakkety.  I haven't seen any other core packages released by upstream yet.
[14:12] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome
[14:12] <jamespage> due this week right?
[14:12] <lordievader> v1s: Is there a firewall active?
[14:12] <coreycb> jamespage, yep
[14:12] <jamespage> coreycb, uh-oh whole load of red on the master branch builds
[14:13] <jamespage> I better take a look
[14:13] <v1s> lordievader: no I did not put one
[14:13] <coreycb> jamespage, it seems like tooling issues possibly
[14:14] <lordievader> v1s: Do both reply to ping?
[14:16] <v1s> lordievader: only one replies. If if both are connected. if only one of them is connected then it will ping
[14:16] <v1s> lordievader: it will not ping more then one of the ip address if there are more then one system connected
[14:16] <lordievader> v1s: But both reply to arp when both are connected?
[14:17] <v1s> lordievader: yes correct
[14:17] <lordievader> v1s: How did you configure your address space?
[14:18] <v1s> lordievader: single line in dnsmasq.conf http://pastebin.com/1Bts1bFz
[14:18] <jamespage> zul, any specific reason pylxd declares  python-cryptography (>= 1.4)
[14:18] <jamespage> ?
[14:19] <lordievader> v1s: What routes do all the boxes have to each other?
[14:20] <jamespage> coreycb, there are some installability issues on xenial in the ppa
[14:20] <v1s> lordievader: do u mean my routing table?
[14:21] <v1s> if so http://pastebin.com/hBvJR52i
[14:21] <lordievader> v1s: Part of that, for example does your AP have a route to the whole address space?
[14:21] <coreycb> jamespage, hmm, ok
[14:21] <zul> jamespage: off the top of my head i dont remember....check with rockstar
[14:21] <lordievader> v1s: That looks okay.
[14:22] <jamespage> zul, I don't really want to have to backport cryptography to the UCA so early in the 2 year interim release cycle
[14:22] <lordievader> v1s: Can the two clients ping each other?
[14:22] <jamespage> so if its not required...
[14:22] <v1s> lordievader: no only the one that I am able to ping can ping me back
[14:22] <zul> jamespage: ahaha....yeah i can see that
[14:22] <lordievader> v1s: That is not what I am asking, can client one ping client two.
[14:22] <jamespage> zul, that's not inline with global-requirements btw
[14:23] <v1s> lordievader: sorry no it can not
[14:23] <zul> jamespage: 2.0.3?
[14:23] <zul> or 2.0.2
[14:23] <jamespage> zul, 2.0.3
[14:23] <zul> jamespage: yeah i need to update that
[14:23] <jamespage> zul, https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L23
[14:23] <jamespage> zul, please do its blocking manila and nova-lxd builds atm
[14:24] <zul> jamespage:yeah pylxd is not apart of the openstack project so it doesnt sync with the global-requirements.txt
[14:24] <lordievader> v1s: What happens when you tcpdump everything (on the AP) from everything of an unpingable client, and then let that client ping the AP?
[14:24] <jamespage> zul, sure but it would be a good idea given desire to be in-tree if it aligned right :-)
[14:24] <jamespage> oh wait sorry - getting confused
[14:24] <jamespage> I see
[14:25] <zul> jamespage: yeah
[14:25] <jamespage> zul, lets check with rockstart
[14:25] <jamespage> r
[14:25] <zul> he should been on #ubuntu-server but he isnt..
[14:28] <v1s> lordievader: I am not expert with tcpdump but is this what you mean? http://pastebin.com/1siL3JLA
[14:28] <v1s> lordievader: right now I can reach WINDOWS-5910H5R but cannot reach gary-PC
[14:31] <lordievader> v1s: Interesting, I get the feeling your ARP responses don't make it to the client. I'd tcpdump there to verify.
[14:32] <v1s> lordievader: u think something in the server is blocking it ?
[14:33] <lordievader> v1s: No, I am saying it might not reach it destination. I have no idea wether this is true, or even if there is something blocking it.
[14:34] <lordievader> First find the problem, then find the cause ;)
[14:45] <ddellav> thanks beisner
[14:46] <codepython777> cpaelzer: thank you!
[14:46] <nacc_> cpaelzer: thanks for covering last week; i blame the holidays
[14:47] <codepython777> If I have to do 100s of apt-gets, how can i do this so that I dont have to download all these from the web everytime?
[14:47] <nacc_> codepython777: i thought someone answered you yesterday in #ubuntu
[14:48] <codepython777> nacc_: not this one? If you saw the answer, can you please cut and paste?
[14:48] <nacc_> codepython777: is your only goal to avoid downloading the packages?
[14:48] <codepython777> nacc_: I use a usb stick to run a script that installs a lot of packages
[14:48] <nacc_> codepython777: and i assume you mean on multiple machines?
[14:48] <codepython777> nacc_: At this point, it would be nice if i could avoid downloading
[14:48] <codepython777> nacc_: yes
[14:48] <cpaelzer> nacc_: hehe
[14:49] <nacc_> codepython777: the issue you run into is the time delay between one machine and the next; what if you're installing what are now insecure packages (due to -security updates to them)
[14:49] <cpaelzer> nacc_: you are welcome, and due to the holidays it wasn't th emost crowded and complex of meetings
[14:49] <codepython777> nacc_: Then we do a apt-get update/upgrade after the whole install process?
[14:49] <nacc_> cpaelzer: regardless, thanks -- and i'll do today's meeting
[14:49] <nacc_> codepython777: ok, so you're hoping to statistically catch most; just making sure you were doing that step
[14:49] <RoyK> codepython777: setup a local mirror
[14:50] <codepython777> nacc_: yes.
[14:50] <codepython777> RoyK: Can one do that on a usb stick?
[14:50] <nacc_> codepython777: i would either use ubumirror, an apt-cacher, or put all the packages you care about on the usb stick (which ubumirror might be able to do)
[14:50] <codepython777> what command do i need for that?
[14:52] <codepython777> I dont want to setup an apache+ local mirror
[14:52] <codepython777> Just want all the files on the usb disk - If I could [r]sync them with better versions over time, that would be cool
[14:53] <RoyK> codepython777: afaics using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server would be an easier and probablye better approach
[14:54] <nacc_> codepython777: why is the usb stick necessary, btw? can't you just scp your script to each machine?
[14:54] <RoyK> nacc_: or use something sensible like ansible :P
[14:54] <nacc_> RoyK: i figured that was a step too far :)
[14:54] <codepython777> nacc_: I dont want to assume network
[14:54] <nacc_> codepython777: i would also end up probably suggesting an installation/configuration tooling
[14:55] <codepython777> RoyK: how does ansible help?
[14:55] <nacc_> codepython777: so you have machines that don't have network at all? that seems to deviate from your earlier `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` step :)
[14:55] <codepython777> nacc_: I want to install everything from usb stick, then get it on network and do apt-get update/upgrade step
[14:55] <RoyK> codepython777: well, if you don't want networking, well, I really don't know what you use these things for - what sort of machines are these?
[14:56] <codepython777> a machine that i just assembled from scratch
[14:56] <RoyK> ubuntu/debian will find network adapters on a very large majority of the machines out there
[14:56] <codepython777> then install ubuntu + then run my apt-gets from usb + then connect to network and update
[14:57] <RoyK> I beleive you should read up a bit more on managing lots of machines first
[14:57] <RoyK> you could do a network install
[14:57] <nacc_> codepython777: i'm not sure there is a trivial way to do what you want, unfortunately
[14:57] <RoyK> lots of machines in parallel
[14:57] <codepython777> btw, I need to install upwards of 1000 packages using apt-get !
[14:58] <nacc_> codepython777: why??
[14:58] <codepython777> because of software dependencies
[14:58] <codepython777> can this be done using dpkg-dev?
[14:58] <nacc_> codepython777: no, i mean why do you need 1000s of packages above the base install by default?
[14:58] <RoyK> codepython777: it'd probably be faster using the LAN than using a bunch of USB sticks
[14:59] <nacc_> codepython777: seems like you should just master your own ISO or something similar with the packages on it?
[14:59] <RoyK> codepython777: please tell why you don't want to use network for this
[14:59] <codepython777> RoyK: USB3 is faster than my gigabit conneciton, right?
[14:59] <patdk-wk> it could be, depending on the usb3 storage media
[14:59] <RoyK> codepython777: possibly, but the memory chips on that usb pen is quite possibly a lot slower
[14:59] <codepython777> RoyK: why use network? when its slower?
[15:00] <codepython777> patdk-wk: Its a top of the line SSD
[15:00] <patdk-wk> top of the line ssd's don't have usb3 interfaces
[15:00] <patdk-wk> they have pcie x4 interfaces
[15:00] <RoyK> codepython777: then you can just start all installations at once with PXE or something
[15:00] <v1s> lordievader: so I removed /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases restarted dnsmasq and it let me ping both address. I restart and it seems if I dont start pinging them then it wont let me do it later
[15:00] <patdk-wk> maybe even do some kind of multicast pxe install :)
[15:00] <codepython777> RoyK: Yes, but its easier if it not dependent on another machine?
[15:01] <patdk-wk> but that can get really complex, and only useful if you do full reinstalls often
[15:01] <nacc_> codepython777: excpet you're now finding why it's not easier (to scale) :)
[15:01] <codepython777> Why cant we just keep it simple
[15:01] <codepython777> ?
[15:01] <RoyK> patdk-wk: please don't :P
[15:01] <lordievader> v1s: Still sounds a bit like a misconfigured network... but hey if it works ;)
[15:01] <codepython777> USB3 shell script ?
[15:01] <patdk-wk> not depending on another machine != easier
[15:01] <v1s> lordievader: ok trying to figure out where the isssue is
[15:02] <patdk-wk> for me, sitting in a single location, and doing remote pxe boots and installed to all other machines
[15:02] <patdk-wk> seems much simpler
[15:02] <RoyK> codepython777: I've only worked with linux for 20ish years, I'm just trying to help, just like the other guys here
[15:02] <nacc_> codepython777: what does USB3 have to do with shell scripts?
[15:02] <codepython777> nacc_: I run the script that picks the packages from the disk and installs it on the system?
[15:03] <RoyK> codepython777: we're managing some 10 or 15 thousand PCs and we don't really run around with USB sticks to reinstall them
[15:03] <lordievader> v1s: I'm not saying it is... Just what I think ;)
[15:03] <lordievader> RoyK: hahaha, that would be fun.... not.
[15:05] <RoyK> lordievader: so please try with apt-cacher and perhaps pxe install if you want that
[15:05] <nacc_> codepython777: --^
[15:05] <nacc_> codepython777: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection also may be of use
[15:06] <patdk-wk> apt-cacher-ng + pxe net installs, works great
[15:15] <v1s> is there anyway to tell if there is another dhcp server on the network ?
[15:15] <v1s> or other system offering dhcp
[15:16] <lordievader> v1s: Ask for an address, see who responds ;)
[15:19] <nacc_> v1s: i think you'd use tcpdump or just dhcpdump to do that
[15:19] <nacc_> lordievader's suggestion is probably easiest, though :)
[15:20] <lordievader> nacc_: My anwser involves tcpdump ;)
[15:21] <nacc_> lordievader: ah; i read it as 'run dhclient and see who responds'
[15:22] <codepython777> RoyK: I just copied the .deb files from usb to /var/cache/apt/archives/ - and then fired apt-get = > Is there a problem with that approach?
[15:23] <lordievader> nacc_: That is pretty much it, but it will probably limit the answer to one, hence the tcpdump for others ;)
[15:24] <rattking> Hello folks, with sysvinit we had /etc/default/ for shell sniplets and configuration pieces to be sourced in the init script where the package would not over write.. how is that done with systemd services?
[15:30] <jge> Hey all good morning, I'm looking to upgrade mysql 5.5 to 5.6 could I just do an inplace upgrade with: apt-get install mysql-server-5.6
[15:30] <jge> ?
[15:31] <RoyK> codepython777: should work, but network will probably be faster
[15:31] <codepython777> RoyK: You are underestimating the speed of USB3 :)
[15:31] <RoyK> codepython777: *you* are underestimating managability
[15:32] <codepython777> RoyK: yes !  I need to take your advice and setup a pxe installer sometime :)
[15:33] <RoyK> codepython777: better start now
[15:40] <nacc_> jge: what version of ubuntu?
[15:47] <jge> nacc_: 14.04
[15:49] <nacc_> jge: presuming you've read this, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/upgrading-from-previous-series.html, i think the packages should handle data migration; however you should make backups, etc.
[15:51] <jge> nacc_: yep read that, thanks
[16:01] <rbasak> o/
[16:02] <smoser> rbasak, ubuntu-meeting
[16:02] <nacc> heh
[16:02] <rbasak> Oh :)
[16:53] <rbasak> cpaelzer: FYI, I uploaded the fix for bug 1571865 to Yakkety. So that should unblock the mega-SRU. I'm EOD now.
[16:53] <cpaelzer> rbasak: ok
[16:54] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I have one test completed and the next will finish shortly
[16:54] <cpaelzer> I'll end with a mail to you once I'm done
[16:54] <cpaelzer> rbasak: so you can take over then
[16:54] <rbasak> cpaelzer: many thanks for your help!
[17:09] <spm_draget> Upon upgrade I see in the log "error: open /var/lib/lxd/containers: no such file or directory" - lxd fails to start. Which is logical since I have no containers configured. But why is lxd installed? Is it part of the default server packages?
[17:09] <spm_draget> Can I disable it?
[17:10] <degorenko> coreycb, hey, is it possible to update saharaclient to 0.15.0 version? :) which contain fix for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565775
[17:14] <coreycb> degorenko, sure I'll take a look, might be a few days though
[17:16] <degorenko> coreycb, ack, thanks
[18:55] <jnex26> Howdy.
[18:55] <jnex26> Question... has anyone seen ubuntu server stall a process once the CPU time hits 06:00:00
[18:55] <jnex26> ?
[18:55] <jnex26> it has done it twice now !
[18:55] <jnex26> thanks
[18:58] <sarnold> you could set an rlimit for cpu time (see ulimit -a output)
[18:58] <jayjo> I'm trying to run some commands with aws cli, and I'm getting different results from different machines. I checked the versioning and there is a discrepency... on the machine that works it reads: aws-cli/1.10.36 Python/2.7.10 Darwin/15.5.0 botocore/1.4.26 and on the one it does it not it reads: aws-cli/1.2.9 Python/3.4.3 Linux/3.13.0-74-generic
[18:59] <jayjo> Can I force the install to use the versions that work on one machine on the machine that doesn't work -- 1 is a mac and the other is ubuntu
[18:59] <jnex26>  ulimit -a
[18:59] <jnex26> core file size          (blocks, -c) 0
[18:59] <jnex26> data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited
[18:59] <jnex26> scheduling priority             (-e) 0
[18:59] <jnex26> file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited
[18:59] <jnex26> pending signals                 (-i) 7394
[18:59] <jnex26> max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
[18:59] <jnex26> max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited
[18:59] <jnex26> open files                      (-n) 1024
[18:59] <jnex26> pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8
[18:59] <jnex26> POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200
[18:59] <jnex26> real-time priority              (-r) 0
[18:59] <jnex26> stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
[18:59] <jnex26> cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited
[19:01] <sarnold> I didn't know you could run OS X on aws
[19:04] <jayjo> that is the local machine
[19:08] <RoyK> !pastebin | jnex26
[19:15] <jnex26> sorry
[19:15] <jnex26> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19202648/ process limits
[19:16] <sarnold> jnex26: did you check the ulimit via whatever mechanism spawns your process?
[19:16] <sarnold> or just a shell on the system?
[19:16] <jnex26> php spawns the process. but it runs under a shell it is a exec(); in php
[19:16] <sarnold> damn that's terrifying
[19:17] <sarnold> anyway, check your php.ini there may be a "maximum cpu time" thing specified there?
[19:20] <jnex26> just out of interest, why is it terrifying ?
[19:21] <spm_draget> Upon upgrade I see in the log "error: open /var/lib/lxd/containers: no such file or directory" - lxd fails to start. Which is logical since I have no containers configured. But why is lxd installed? Is it part of the default server packages?
[19:21] <spm_draget> Can I disable it?
[19:21] <sarnold> spm_draget: feel free to apt-get purge lxd if you don't intend to use it
[19:22] <sarnold> jnex26: I've just seen too many poorly-written php scripts that allow more or less complete control of a computer by attackers..
[19:24] <jnex26> ahh... I would do it all in php, but handbrake does not have a php lib !
[19:25] <sarnold> aha :)
[19:25] <sarnold> just be insanely careful about what inputs you accept..
[19:28] <jnex26> no inputs to it at all, spawns a user process when a specific type of disk is inserted in the drive !
[19:29] <sarnold> good good
[19:30] <jnex26> irony is I wrote this in ubuntu desktop and it works fine. only running on the server version am i having issues
[19:54] <b-yeezi> Hi all, I have a question about accessing a mongodb server (trusty) running in an LXD 2.0 container from the host (xenial)
[19:55] <b-yeezi>  I am just trying to connect to it, but it say connection refused by server.  I can ping it, I made sure the port is open. Still no luck
[19:55] <b-yeezi> I can see a new lxbr0 network device, and when I ping the container, I see that it's using that device's gateway
[19:55] <nacc> b-yeezi: have you looked at the logs in the container?
[19:56] <b-yeezi> I did. It doesn't even notice the request
[19:57] <b-yeezi> I can't find much in the docs for only opening up to the host, and not to the entire lan
[19:57] <sarnold> b-yeezi: are you using macvlan? iirc that doesn't alow containers to talk with the host
[19:58] <b-yeezi> Do I need to set up another bridge? Create a new container profile? Add a new nic device to the container?
[19:59] <nacc> sarnold: i assume if lxdbr0 showed up (default lxd config), then it's not macvlan but bridged
[19:59] <b-yeezi> sarnold, whatever the default is. I don't think its macvlan
[19:59] <sarnold> nacc: could be. I haven't done battle with this, just skimmed the docs..
[20:00] <b-yeezi> I confirm. It's just bridged
[20:02] <nacc> b-yeezi: and you are tryin to connect from the host, right?
[20:02] <b-yeezi> What do I have to do to allow it to talk to the host? I'm setting up an environment on my laptop with mongodb in a trusty container to talk to a dev wsgi server
[20:02] <b-yeezi> from my laptop, the host
[20:02] <b-yeezi> nacc, yes
[20:04] <nacc> b-yeezi: ok
[20:06] <b-yeezi> nacc, my use case is to use lxd to set up dev environments of many configurations instead of vms. This is my first test
[20:07] <nacc> b-yeezi: i've not setup a database in a container, but it should be fine
[20:08] <nacc> b-yeezi: to be sure, mongo is actually running, and if you `lxc exec .. bash` to the container and connect locally, you can (with the same credentials)?
[20:08] <b-yeezi> I don't know if it makes a difference, but it is mongodb 3.2, not the 2.6 that comes from the official repo.
[20:08] <nacc> b-yeezi: and ... support stops :)
[20:09] <b-yeezi> I'm about to create a new one with 2.6
[20:09] <nacc> b-yeezi: my trivial guess is that your /etc/mongod.conf says to only allow localhost connectivity (bind_ip) or so
[20:10] <sarnold> maybe try using nc -l in the container and connect via nc from the host to double check that tcp is allowed through with simple tools?
[20:10] <nacc> sarnold: good call
[20:11] <b-yeezi> sarnold, I used ufw allow 27017
[20:15] <b-yeezi> I will try both and get back to you
[20:16] <b-yeezi> Thanks for your help
[20:51] <minx> Hi I am for all intents and purposes a complete noob in linux can anyone point me in the right direction of a detail step by step guide to the fundemental basics and possible within the same source leads onto more advance stuff? I have tried a google around and can't seem to find what I'm looking for
[20:53] <sarnold> minx: as far as I know, no such guide exists. it would be immensely difficult to create one of that scope..
[20:53] <genii> The Linux Documentation Project may be a good place to start
[20:55] <sarnold> minx: you can use general-purpose guides like https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/  -- specific guides like http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide -- the general set of HOWTOs (possibly badly dated by now) http://www.tldp.org/docs.html
[20:55] <sarnold> minx: and of course most tools, configuration files, etc. have manpages; I started learning linux via "ls /usr/share/man/man*" and reading everything in there
[20:57] <minx> man pages?
[20:58] <sarnold> there's extensive system documentation in the manpages
[20:58] <sarnold> run "man ls" to see an example
[20:59] <sarnold> they document user commands, sysadmin commands, configuration files, device drivers, subsystems, programming interfaces, etc
[21:00] <b-yeezi> sarnold, nacc it was the mongodb.conf bind_ip only allowing localhost. In the docs, it says that it is suppose to default to allow all, but debian changes it to only allow <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:00] <b-yeezi> Thanks for your help
[21:00] <sarnold> b-yeezi: ahhhhhh
[21:01] <sarnold> b-yeezi: see e.g. https://www.riskbasedsecurity.com/2016/07/redis-over-6000-installations-compromised/ for a description why :)
[21:01] <sarnold> b-yeezi: thanks for reporting back, I always like hearing the end results :)
[21:04] <minx> Thank you very much! these look like some good places to start thank you very much! ^__^
[21:05] <sarnold> minx: oh yes, most packages leave documentation in /usr/share/doc/<packagename> too -- sometimes it's just the packaging changelogs, sometimes there's things that don't really fit in to a manpage
[21:06] <b-yeezi> sarnold, yeah I totally understand why. From a risk standpoint, it's better to fail by leaving the defaults rather than leaving the system open by default.
[23:55] <kantlivelong> help
[23:55] <kantlivelong> oop


[18:11] <BUGabundo> xbisont: did you use unetbooy to install it?
[18:12] <grodius>  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:12] <thiebaude> ok
[18:12] <BUGabundo> grodius: check LP for that card
[18:12] <BUGabundo> is should have more instrutions
[18:13] <grodius> LP?
[18:13] <grodius> sorry, i'm a noob
[18:14] <BUGabundo>  !launchpad
[18:14] <BUGabundo>  !bugs
[18:14] <xbisont> BUGabundo: I don't know, just booted with Jaunty Desktop CD and selected install
[18:14] <BUGabundo> xbisont: ok
[18:14] <BUGabundo> then it wasnt
[18:18] <xbisont> BUGabundo: should I use unetboot?
[18:19] <TABASCO> BUGabundo: It seems as if rsync loads the whole image new
[18:19] <TABASCO> BUGabundo: there are 12h download time left
[18:21] <BUGabundo> xbisont: no
[18:21] <BUGabundo> TABASCO: maybe you really add the wrong image?
[18:21] <BUGabundo> or it's the file name.... oh that's it
[18:21] <BUGabundo> its another file, and some how its failing to reuse it
[18:22] <TABASCO> Well, the name is different of course
[18:22] <TABASCO> jaunty-netbook-remix-i386.img is the new image and ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img is the existing one
[18:22] <Lenin_Cat> how do I compile my kernel to be custom for my computer
[18:28] <TABASCO> BUGabundo: So what do I do?
[18:30] <BUGabundo> just let it finish now
[18:31] <BUGabundo> not much you can do
[18:31] <TABASCO> Okay :)
[18:31] <BUGabundo> other then stop and wget the daily
[18:31] <TABASCO> It's a little slow now
[18:31] <TABASCO> Okay
[18:31] <TABASCO> That's what I thought about before..
[18:33] <bluefoxicy> is anyone else having issues with ubuntu hanging sometimes?
[18:34] <cwillu> bluefoxicy, ext4?
[18:34] <bluefoxicy> like, windows stop updating, stuff stops  running
[18:34] <bluefoxicy> cwillu:  it was worse with ext3, so I switched to ext4
[18:34] <bluefoxicy> actually the system was cranking the disk CONSTANTLY and nothing was working with ext3 o.o
[18:34] <cwillu> you mean temporary hangs or actually locking up?
[18:34] <bluefoxicy> temporary hangs
[18:34] <bluefoxicy> like every window freezes, then 5 minutes later comes back
[18:35] <bluefoxicy> down to maybe you switch desktops and the thing freezes for 2-3 seconds
[18:35] <bluefoxicy> but, disk activity stops too
[18:35] <bluefoxicy> It's weird
[18:35] <bluefoxicy> because if I push numlock, the system wakes the fuck up and starts working again.
[18:35] <BUGabundo> bluefoxicy: memory leak from one app?
[18:35] <bluefoxicy> I have yet to figure out why
[18:36] <bluefoxicy> BUGabundo:  no, not a memory leak from any app
[18:36] <bluefoxicy> everything goes into D state,waiting on kernel
[18:40] <xbisont> well, let's see if when it finished downloading & installing updates, the "Error 15" is gone. I'll tell you later if it worked or not.
[18:45] <willmore> Okay, third try.  Hello, all.
[18:45] <jemark> hello
[18:45] <willmore> I've got a system that I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04.  On the first reboot, it halts with "Bug: Int 14"
[18:45] <willmore> And then a register dump.
[18:45] <willmore> Is this a known issue?
[18:45] <thompa> I can't burn audio disks in both k3b and brasero. Could this be cause music files on other partition?
[18:45] <willmore> Or did I just get *lucky*.
[18:46] <thompa> that would tell me permissions or fstab
[18:46] <willmore> I guess there's a lot of issues with jaunty, the.  Maybe I should just rollback to 8.10.
[18:47] <thompa> willmore: did upgrade?
[18:48] <acicula> willmore: willmore https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/312554 ?
[18:48] <willmore> thompa, yes, I had an 8.10 system and I did an upgrade to 9.04.
[18:48] <willmore> That may be it.  Let me go check.
[18:48] <thompa> my sony vaio works great on new install
[18:49] <thompa> but intel graphics are broke for i945
[18:49] <thompa> i have switch for nvidia but fan is a little too high for some reason
[18:49] <willmore> Yeah, that looks lime me.
[18:49] <thompa> on AMD box i did upgrade and have some permisson and mounting issues
[18:50] <thompa> willmore: try new creating a new user
[18:50] <thompa> helped here anyway
[18:50] <willmore> thompa, you're responding to the wrong person. :)  I can't even get the kernel to start. :)
[18:51] <thompa> willmore: sorry, so whats the error
[18:51] <willmore> acicula hit it on the head.
[18:51] <willmore> It's a halt on first boot of the new kernel.
[18:51] <acicula> willmore: actually google did, but ok ;)
[18:51] <willmore> Bug: int 14 cr2 bla bla.
[18:52] <willmore> acicula, funny that searching *at launchpad* didn't find it.
[18:52] <willmore> :(
[18:53] <willmore> Hmm, odd, in that bug report, they show that a fix was committed over a month ago.
[18:54] <thompa> well anyway can anyone burn audio disks from mp3s?
[18:56] <willmore> acicula, Well, the suggested workaround in the bug report works for me.  I would have sweared I tried that last night, but it was late, so maybe I didn't....
[18:56] <willmore> Thanks!
[18:57] <acicula> willmore: your welcome
[19:02] <DarthFrog> cwillu: I can't email you those kernel packages I compiled.  GMail barfs if the attachment is over 3 MB and the kernel deb is 6 MB.
[19:03] <BUGabundo> DarthFrog: LOL... time to use DCC or dropbox?
[19:04] <DarthFrog> Dropbox?
[19:04] <coz_> hey guys.. just noticed that with screensaver disabled and power settings set to none the monitor still sleeps after about 15 minutes .. any workaround?
[19:04] <BUGabundo> DarthFrog: AFAIK gmail limit is 20MiBs
[19:04] <coz_> dropbox really isnt avaiable for jaunty yet
[19:04] <DarthFrog> BUGabundo: Then perhaps the limitation is on his end.
[19:04] <coz_> all the work arounds for dropbox dont work well for everyone
[19:04] <DarthFrog> !help dropbox
[19:05] <DarthFrog> !dropbox
[19:05] <cwillu> DarthFrog, heh, np
[19:05] <BUGabundo> DarthFrog: see PVT
[19:05] <BUGabundo> its Offtopic
[19:05] <DarthFrog> cwillu: Do you still want them?  I could set up ftp.
[19:06] <cwillu> not a huge deal
[19:06] <DarthFrog> OK
[19:15] <iAreBaboon> hi, is Jacky Jackalope an LTS ?
[19:15] <BUGabundo> iAreBaboon: no
[19:15] <crdlb> no, and neither is Jaunty :)
[19:15] <BUGabundo> the next one will be 10.10
[19:15] <crdlb> ? I thought it was 10.04
[19:15] <iAreBaboon> I thought each 4 years a x.04 version comes out that's LTS ?
[19:15] <BUGabundo> crdlb: is it?
[19:16] <iAreBaboon> !9.04
[19:16] <iAreBaboon> !10.04
[19:16] <BUGabundo> iAreBaboon: last one was Hardy 8.04
[19:16] <iAreBaboon> BUGabundo: yes I'm using that, what's the next
[19:16] <iAreBaboon> oh
[19:16] <kady> iAreBaboon: Each 2 years
[19:16] <crdlb> BUGabundo: they've definitely said that, but it may have been changed ...
[19:16] <iAreBaboon> thanks all
[19:16] <kady> It's only been one year since hardy
[19:17] <kady> So Lucious Lemmas will be LTS
[19:17] <iAreBaboon> one more question please, can 8.04 be upgraded to 9.04 ?
[19:17] <iAreBaboon> or are they too far off
[19:17] <crdlb> not without going through 8.10
[19:17] <iAreBaboon> I mean once 9.04 is released
[19:17] <kady> iAreBaboon: yes but you must make a stop at Ibex Farms first
[19:17] <iAreBaboon> kady: where's that
[19:17] <kady> iAreBaboon: 8.1
[19:18] <kady> 8.10
[19:18] <iAreBaboon> !Ibex
[19:18] <iAreBaboon> are you kidding me ?  8.10 is called Ibex Farms ?   what happened to the animal names
[19:18] <coz_> iAreBaboon, next April is the LTS release
[19:18] <iAreBaboon> lol
[19:18] <Ienorand> iAreBaboon: I e you must first go to ibex, then to jaunty
[19:18] <coz_> iAreBaboon,  no its calle intrepid Ibex
[19:19] <iAreBaboon> ah
[19:19] <coz_> iAreBaboon,  you can look at Shuttleworth's blog about releases here  http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146
[19:20] <mgedmin> LP is short for launchpad.net, the website where Ubuntu bug reports are collected (among other things)
[19:20]  * mgedmin blinks
[19:20] <mgedmin> oops, was looking into the middle of the scrollback buffer
[19:21] <mgedmin> and got the impression nobody was answering the question
[19:21] <iAreBaboon> coz_: thanks I'm looking at it now, it's not that detailed though, any idea when Janty will be released ?  ie the Beta is finished
[19:21] <xbisont> mmm I guess when at boot time it says Error 15: File not found, it really means there's no file, even dist-upgrade couldn't install updates in the chrooted partition
[19:22] <coz_> iAreBaboon,  if you scroll down you will see the release cycle planned
[19:22] <coz_> iAreBaboon,  the releases are number , for example  8.10 meaning 200(8) in October
[19:22] <coz_> iAreBaboon,  9.04 = 200(9) in April
[19:23] <iAreBaboon> coz_: oh I didn't know that.  nice :)
[19:23] <xbisont> I'll better wait and see if when it is released, it works in my PC ...usually I must wait 2 months after each release to get it work in my PC
[19:24] <kady> iAreBaboon: pretty much always released on the third Thursday
[19:28] <Tumie> i can't get some updates,, he can't find the packages..
[19:29] <Tumie> it is the first time i updated, since i installed jaunty 2 days ago..
[19:30] <BUGabundo1> Tumie: bug 332945
[19:30] <andresmh> since switching to jaunty my Gnome-Do is coming behind the current open windows and a lot of times it doesn't even catch the key shortcut. Any ideas why?
[19:31] <Tumie> BUGabundo1: ty
[19:48] <picklesworth> anyone else bumping into issues with the gnome keyring lately?
[19:48] <picklesworth> (hm, gnome-keyring-daemon isn't even running!)
[19:49] <BUGabundo1> picklesworth: yep
[19:50] <picklesworth> good, good :)
[20:10] <marshall> I installed ndisgtk and uninstalled it, now ubuntu doesnt load my wireless drivers. I have to reenable Atheros drivers in the restricted driver manager every time i boot, and even then it doesnt recognicze any wireless networks
[20:12]  * mgedmin just got a new-style irc notification bubble from xchat
[20:13] <mgedmin> slickest upgrade yet
[20:13]  * mgedmin wonders if he now jinxed it, with 2 minutes of estimated work still remaining
[20:25] <Frijolie> I cannot run mmex, it won't launch
[20:25] <Frijolie> i've checked all dependencies and they're all met
[20:25] <coz_> Frijolie,  when you run this from a terminal . what is the readout?
[20:25] <Frijolie> it was working on Intrepid but since the upgrade it won't launch
[20:25] <Frijolie> coz_, hang on, I'll post it
[20:26] <Frijolie> coz_, http://pastebin.com/m76bd228b
[20:26] <coz_> mmm
[20:27] <Frijolie> wait, I just thought of something else to try
[20:27] <coz_> Frijolie,  let me install this  hold on
[20:27] <Frijolie> I haven't tried loading it without compiz running
[20:28] <Frijolie> same result, :(
[20:28] <coz_> Frijolie,  did you use the deb package
[20:28] <coz_> to install this?
[20:29] <Frijolie> yes, the more up-to-date version v4.0.2
[20:29] <melik> coz_, can someone do sudo vi /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
[20:29] <melik> and tell me what they see
[20:30] <coz_> Frijolie,  you mean <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:30] <khunt> my other ubuntu install is booting into maintenance shell and asking for root password but it is not accepting my root password
[20:32] <Frijolie> coz_, yea, sorry
[20:32] <Frijolie> coz_, I was doing it from memory
[20:32] <coz_> ok
[20:32] <j5098> i just upgraded to jaunty and now all my desktop effects are really slow
[20:32] <BUGabundo1> melik: I see my swap UUID
[20:33] <deany> j5098, fglrx driver is broken or something i believe
[20:33] <Frijolie> coz_, is it working for you?
[20:33] <deany> j5098, or doesnt get upgraded.. read the ubuntu site
[20:33] <deany> tells you known issues
[20:33] <coz_> Frijolie,  I installed it and it is working yes  even with compiz running
[20:33] <melik> BUGabundo1,
[20:33] <melik> i have the same
[20:34] <melik> but when i used to boot up
[20:34] <melik> i got some weird kinit error
[20:34] <khunt> does anyone know why maintenance shell wont accept my root password
[20:34] <j5098> deany: just search for fglrx?
[20:34] <Frijolie> coz_, ok, so then it's something I've done or am missing
[20:34] <melik> so i added a # in front of it
[20:34] <melik> and i dont get it anymore
[20:34] <melik> do you get a kinit error at bootup
[20:34] <coz_> Frijolie,  looking for a conf file hold on
[20:35] <coz_> Frijolie,  i am not finding a conf file ,. maybe if you reinstall from the deb
[20:36] <Frijolie> coz_, well when i originally installed it from deb it complained about not having that wxwidgets and then said that I had broken dependencies
[20:36] <Frijolie> I purged everything
[20:36] <Frijolie> installed wxwidgets and reinstalled via .deb
[20:36] <Frijolie> hmm, I guess I'll try again
[20:36] <coz_> ok
[20:37] <funkyHat> Anyone else with more than one soundcard noticed that gnome sound settings forgets which device you want the volume buttons to control?
[20:37] <BUGabundo1> khunt: by default root on recovery has no password
[20:38] <Frijolie> whoa! that worked..it's running but it's in another language!
[20:38] <khunt> if i press enter it just asks again
[20:38] <deany> j5098,  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta#Known%20issues
[20:38] <Frijolie> how do you check your default locale in Jaunty?
[20:38] <BUGabundo1> dtchen & maco: is there any way I can redirect one app sound to speakers and all other to ear phones?
[20:38] <maco> BUGabundo1: pavucontrol
[20:39] <Ienorand> the manual page for "echo" speaks of --help as a valid argument, but when i try it it just echoes it... is there something I'm missing here or is this manaul wrong?
[20:39] <BUGabundo1> maco I have it. but I think my speakers get turned off once I plug ear phones
[20:39] <maco> BUGabundo1: the little down arrow to the right of the stream lets you choose which output it comesout of
[20:39] <deany> j5098, dont know of thats anything to do with your problem..
[20:39] <BUGabundo1> maco let me try
[20:39] <maco> oh hrm...might only work for usb headphones...
[20:40] <BUGabundo1> maco: nop! still comes to headphones
[20:40] <BUGabundo1> ahh usb is another sound card!
[20:40] <BUGabundo1> I guess that would work for any one with 2 cards! but I just have one! the laptop one! hearphones replace speakers!
[20:41] <BUGabundo1> thanks maco
[20:41] <Frijolie> are there any reports of ext4 not working in Jaunty? I had a kernel panic when using it and as soon as I reverted back to ext3 it was fine
[20:42] <maco> BUGabundo1: right, usb headphones count as a separate device...
[20:42] <BUGabundo1> Frijolie: talk to cwillu! he is our resident expert on that eheh
[20:42] <j5098> deany: cool, thanks i found another site with same info. i'll give it a try
[20:42] <Frijolie> BUGabundo1, he's had similar problems?
[20:43] <maco> dtchen *may* know a way to trick it into treating the headphones and speakers separately on one card, but i dont think 2 streams treated separately is usually something the hardware can do
[20:43] <BUGabundo1> no... he is debuging those prob
[20:43] <deany> Frijolie, worked in my vbox
[20:43] <BUGabundo1> thanks maco. if you talk to them, and remember to ask, I appreciate
[20:44] <mgedmin> weirdness: after first boot my first login failed -- I was kicked out back to gdm
[20:44] <cwillu> Frijolie, don't know of anything that should cause a kernel panic.  Did you just switch to ext4 and it immediately broke?
[20:44] <mgedmin> second login worked fine
[20:44] <Halow> BUGabundo1: What're you trying to do with the USB headphones, exactly?
[20:44] <Frijolie> it worked after the first reboot (after installation), however soon as I updated the kernel and rebooted again "ALERT ALERT"
[20:44] <cwillu> Frijolie, which kernel version?
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> Halow: not usb
[20:45] <Frijolie> I didn't pay much attention
[20:45] <Frijolie> the latest
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> Halow: just regular jack hear phones
[20:45] <cwillu> Frijolie, latest as of when?
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> Frijolie: $ uname -a
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> cwillu: ehehe
[20:45] <cwillu> BUGabundo1, not enough info from uname :p
[20:45] <maco> BUGabundo1: its not supported in pulseaudio
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> oh
[20:45] <BUGabundo1> maco: thanks!
[20:45] <Halow> BUGabundo1: Oh... gotcha. :)
[20:45] <Frijolie> ive got kernel 2.6.28-11
[20:45] <Frijolie> latest as of about 6 hours ago
[20:45] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: clarification: it's not *currently* supported in PA
[20:46] <maco> BUGabundo1: i think he's typing a longer explanation. he wasnt looking at his irc screen
[20:46] <BUGabundo1> Frijolie: for your mirror!
[20:46] <cwillu> Frijolie, dpkg-query -s linux-image
[20:46] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: you can do it using raw ALSA-lib conffiles
[20:46] <BUGabundo1> dtchen: so it was in the past, not now, maybe some day?
[20:46] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: you would set up separate virtual devices with ttables
[20:46] <BUGabundo1> dtchen: how would I do that?
[20:46] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: there are examples in gnubien's asoundconf archive
[20:46] <Frijolie> cwillu, Package `linux-image' is not installed and no info is available.
[20:46] <BUGabundo1> dtchen: link/path ?
[20:47] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: i believe it's on the radar for 0.9.15+
[20:47] <BUGabundo1> ok nice
[20:47] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: use google; the url changed
[20:47] <cwillu> Frijolie, dpkg-query -s linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic, actually
[20:47] <BUGabundo1> ehheh will do
[20:47] <Frijolie> "latest for your mirror", well then it wouldn't be a "mirror" if it weren't mirroring, right?
[20:47] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: i've given you the important query terms
[20:47] <maco> Frijolie: sometimes it takes a while to propogate to all mirrors
[20:47] <BUGabundo1> Frijolie: some mirrors just rsync every 24h
[20:48] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[20:48] <Frijolie> Package `linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic' is not installed and no info is available
[20:48] <maco> aren't there a few mirrors in asia that are more like every 3 days?
[20:48] <dtchen> Frijolie: note the typo
[20:48] <Frijolie> I didn't know that about the mirrors...I have chosen a custom mirror (one that's really really close to my house)
[20:48] <dtchen> Frijolie: linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic != linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic
[20:48] <cwillu> Frijolie, which kernel flavour are you running?
[20:48] <BUGabundo1> maco some don't even work until manual intervention
[20:48] <s0u][ight> how come sometimes alt+f2 gives another window than normally?
[20:48] <cwillu> oh, heh
[20:48] <Frijolie> ah...thanks dtchen
[20:48] <maco> s0u][ight: what do you mean?
[20:48] <Frijolie> the little things
[20:48]  * cwillu huggles dtchen
[20:49] <s0u][ight> maco, the normal window that opens when hitting alt+f2 you know?
[20:49] <dtchen> honestly, the best way is to `cat /proc/version_signature'
[20:49] <s0u][ight> sometimes i get another one-quiet similar- but different
[20:49]  * BUGabundo1 wonders if cwillu has big nails! he keeps poking and guggling users
[20:49] <cwillu> aha, didn't know that, thanks
[20:49] <maco> s0u][ight: in gnome or kde?
[20:49] <s0u][ight> gnome
[20:49] <Frijolie> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/m99f76d8
[20:49] <BUGabundo1> maco is there and alt+f2 for KDE?
[20:49] <cwillu>  /version, rather :p
[20:50] <maco> BUGabundo1: of course :P krunner
[20:50] <BUGabundo1> ahhh
[20:50] <maco> BUGabundo1: gnome's is part of gnome-panel for reasons i still havent figured out
[20:50] <s0u][ight> you want to see a screenshot?
[20:50] <cwillu> Frijolie, fresh ext4 partition?
[20:50] <maco> s0u][ight: yeah
[20:50] <Frijolie> I did a "recovery mode" on the '/' partition and reinstalled grub on it thinking that would fix it
[20:51] <Frijolie> cwillu, yes
[20:51] <Frijolie> i reformatted and "upgraded" to ext4
[20:51] <khunt> anyone? maintenance shell not accepting root password?
[20:51] <Frijolie> erasing all previous partitions
[20:51] <dennda> Hi, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/111205/ <-- Any idea why that is? Fresh intrepid install with all updates. Tried update-manager -d to get to jaunty
[20:52]  * cwillu ignores the ignorant and pointless scare quotes around upgraded, as this is why we do pre-releases
[20:52] <s0u][ight> maco, http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2936/screenshotf.png
[20:52] <cwillu> Frijolie, and it's a panic, not a freeze, right?
[20:52] <maco> khamael: the recovery mode? it shouldnt need a password
[20:52] <cwillu> Frijolie, any chance you can copy out the contents of the panic message?
[20:52] <maco> khamael: unless you unlocked the root account
[20:52] <Frijolie> I got two errors upon "loading grub"
[20:53] <Frijolie> ACPI: aborted because bad gzip magic numbers
[20:53] <maco> s0u][ight: i dont see anything different, aside from your theme...
[20:53] <Halow> dennda: Python was broken, last I knew, so upgrading isn't working presently.
[20:53] <Frijolie> and Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[20:53] <dennda> Ok switching to the main servers helped
[20:53] <Cpudan80> Whats the release date for 9.04 ?
[20:53] <maco> er wait...it should have an icon on the left, huh?
[20:53] <dennda> Halow: see my last message
[20:53] <BUGabundo1>  !release
[20:53] <BUGabundo1> Cpudan80: ^^^^^^^
[20:53] <Frijolie> i wrote them down to hit this channel last night when I got it
[20:53] <BUGabundo1> 23 of april
[20:53] <cwillu> april 28th I believe
[20:53] <s0u][ight> maco, that isn't the normal one i see i know for sure
[20:54] <maco> (i have no alt+f2 at all since i'm using xmonad, so i'm going by memory)
[20:54] <cwillu> nvm :p
[20:54] <Halow> dennda: Ah. Gotcha. Some of the mirrors are a little behind. Sorry!
[20:54] <maco> s0u][ight: what's it usually look like?
[20:54] <BUGabundo1> cwillu: 23
[20:54] <Cpudan80> thanks
[20:54] <eseven73> Cpudan80, 23rd
[20:54] <Cpudan80> yeah I got it thanks
[20:54] <maco> s0u][ight: normally, it looks like this? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/flashmanual07.png
[20:55] <dennda> #play 025
[20:55] <s0u][ight> maco, yeah
[20:55] <dennda> err, sorry, wrong channel
[20:55] <cwillu> Frijolie, well, file a bug I guess.  I'm a little suspicious that you might be running into a hardware issue (i.e., I've been running ext4 for months relatively issue free, certainly no boot-time kernel panics)
[20:55] <maco> though i dont recall "show list of known applications"....
[20:55] <yofel> khunt: like BUGabundo already told you root has no passwd and can't be used, or do you have a problem with sudo?
[20:55] <s0u][ight> you see, its a bit different, and this one i get is annoying
[20:55] <maco> it's possible khunt unlocked root....
[20:56] <BUGabundo1> khunt: the only reason to have a pass there, is because you or someone with access to the pc, entered one
[20:56] <BUGabundo1> khunt: if you want, we can tell you how to remove it, with a livecd/usb
[20:56] <khunt> yofel, i am not logged in I have disk errors it is asking for root password
[20:56] <maco> Frijolie: are you trying to use a /boot thats on ext4?
[20:56] <Frijolie> yeah, I dunno. After many frustrating hours of troubleshooting it, I reinstalled with the same settings but changed back to ext3 and here I am
[20:56] <maco> khunt: did you unlock root at some point?
[20:56] <khunt> no
[20:56] <maco> khunt: it should not be asking for a password
[20:56]  * BUGabundo1 remebers everyone that passwords are not secure! fisical access to the HW always beats passwords
[20:56] <Frijolie> no, I only had three partitions /swap, /, and /home
[20:56] <coz_> s0u][ight,  the run dialog is a smaller window with no menus  so the theme  is working  if you look closely
[20:57] <Frijolie> both / and /home were ext4
[20:57] <Frijolie> and they were in that order on the HDD
[20:57] <khunt> it fails to boot with disk errors then falls back to a maintenance shell and asks for root password to perform maintenance
[20:57] <BUGabundo1> khunt: did you try YOUR password?
[20:57] <maco> Frijolie: and boot is part of / and AFAIK grub doesnt do ext4 yet, does it?
[20:57] <khunt> yes
[20:57] <s0u][ight> coz_, but i don't get this one all the time, while having this theme all the time ;)
[20:57] <khunt> invalid login
[20:57] <maco> khunt: try manually choosing recovery mode?
[20:57] <BUGabundo1> khunt: boot from live cd, and run fsck ?
[20:57] <coz_> s0u][ight,  oh?  do you have an example of when it looks different and with which dialogs?
[20:58] <khunt> its a netbook
[20:58] <maco> coz_: yeah he linked above
[20:58] <coz_> let me scroll back
[20:58] <khunt> i dont have a live usb and my cd drive is at work :-(
[20:58] <BUGabundo1> khunt: liveUSB then?
[20:58] <khunt> i will try the manual recovery though
[20:58] <Frijolie> maco, I'm not sure. I was just gonna give ext4 a try
[20:58] <BUGabundo1> ok khunt
[20:58] <maco> coz_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/flashmanual07.png
[20:58] <maco> coz_: wrong link
[20:58] <maco> coz_: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2936/screenshotf.png
[20:58] <maco> that one
[20:58] <s0u][ight> coz_, i only linked one, the one i'm having now, but at another time i get what maco links
[20:59] <maco> 2 paste buffers = confusion
[20:59] <khunt> ok
[20:59] <khunt> booted into recovery running fsck
[20:59] <topyli> maco: my grub boots file from ext4
[20:59] <topyli> fine even
[20:59] <coz_> s0u][ight,  yeah I am seeing your one link  there but there is no problem on that screenshot
[21:00] <maco> topyli: oh ok then. i didnt know theyd added support for it already. figured itd be one of those grub2 things
[21:00] <khunt> unattached unode 517221 connect to /lost+found?
[21:00] <kady> Ok lets try reboot into Gnome
[21:00] <s0u][ight> coz_, there is, this window behaves differently to the input i give, for instance autocompleting isn't there
[21:00] <maco> coz_: look at the two links i gave. pyschocats is how it should look. imageshack is how it does
[21:01] <coz_> maco,  the psychocats link is a metacity theme from the link above ?
[21:01] <khunt> Thanks guys recovery mode worked!
[21:01] <maco> coz_: note the lack of an icon on the left?
[21:02] <maco> coz_: and the "show known applications" dropdown?
[21:02] <coz_> ah
[21:02] <s0u][ight> now you guys get what i mean
[21:02] <coz_> maco,  s0u][ight  this could be theme related .. have you tested othere themes with this?  I assume you are using emerald as well
[21:03] <linuxnewbe> Hi I've a security question about apache ubuntu justy and the service norton safe web
[21:03] <linuxnewbe> someone can help?
[21:03] <s0u][ight> coz_, i don't think it is theme related actually because the theme is working great and this is happening after i upgraded to jaunty
[21:04] <coz_> s0u][ight,  mm  ok   I will test all of my themes both emerald and metacity to see if this pops up
[21:04] <s0u][ight> would be lovely :D
[21:04] <s0u][ight> coz_, from compiz-fusion and stuff right?
[21:04] <linuxnewbe> I've a site redirect by dyndns
[21:04] <coz_> s0u][ight,  yes... do you have a link for the emerald theme you are using in the screenshot?
[21:05] <linuxnewbe> this site is based on apache 2... it's some time norton safe web tell me this site is unsecure
[21:05] <mgedmin> ouch, rotated external screen is horribly horribly horribly slow in jaunty (intel 965gm)
[21:05] <maco> s0u][ight: did it only start happening when you changed themes?
[21:05] <s0u][ight> i thought it was from compiz-themes "slickness"
[21:05] <linuxnewbe> I need to understand if this is true and how can I solve the problem
[21:05] <coz_> s0u][ight,  ok let me search that
[21:05] <s0u][ight> maco, i was using this theme before upgrading and worked like a charm
[21:05] <maco> s0u][ight, coz_: this doesnt look like something a theme would cause. about 5 widgets are just plain *missing*
[21:06] <coz_> maco,  well let me check this first to be sure :)
[21:06] <maco> linuxnewbe: its a site *you* host?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:07] <linuxnewbe> It's a test site (somethink like test environement that clients can se)
[21:07] <BUGabundo1> calc: ping
[21:07] <BUGabundo1> calc: any reason why you are reopening bug 347209 ?
[21:07] <maco> linuxnewbe: but its your site, not a site you're trying to visit?
[21:08] <maco> linuxnewbe: are you sure its not firefox or google redirecting you to the StopBadware report saying that your site was jacked and is spreading malware at someone else's behest?
[21:08] <coz_> s0u][ight,  is this the one   http://compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/SlicknesS+Emerald?content=73972
[21:08] <linuxnewbe> it's my site,,, when I try to access it nortod block it
[21:08] <coz_> s0u][ight,  if so it is not causing an issue here on jaunty
[21:08] <linuxnewbe> safeweb.norton.com
[21:08] <s0u][ight> coz_, yeah it is that theme
[21:08] <maco> linuxnewbe: oh right norton...so norton says you're hosting malware. fun. i suggest asking Norton what they found on your site that makes them believe you are a perveyor of malware
[21:09] <linuxnewbe> lookhere.dnsalias.org
[21:09] <mgedmin> hey, what happened to all the keybindings?  alt+f2 doesn't open the run dialog, alt+f1 doesn't open the menu
[21:09] <linuxnewbe> I want to know how can I remove my entry
[21:09] <s0u][ight> :D i'm not the only one :D
[21:09] <maco> mgedmin: sytem -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts...were they wiped out?
[21:09] <linuxnewbe> or clean the situation
[21:09] <mgedmin> checking now...
[21:09] <maco> s0u][ight: he's saying they dont do anything at all
[21:09] <linuxnewbe> someone know?
[21:09] <maco> linuxnewbe: CALL NORTON
[21:09] <maco> linuxnewbe: only they can tell you why they block your site
[21:09] <crdlb> mgedmin: if you're using compiz, the gnomecompat plugin probably didn't get enabled
[21:10] <mgedmin> nope, gnome-keybinding-preferences show they're set
[21:10] <mgedmin> yep, compiz, checking that now
[21:10] <coz_> s0u][ight,  right I am saying that that particular theme as well as the other themes are NOT creating the issue you seem to be having
[21:10] <linuxnewbe> I heard about the possibility that apache spam malware and so on
[21:10] <linuxnewbe> is this true?
[21:10] <linuxnewbe> can I have and infected apache
[21:10] <maco> linuxnewbe: apache's not a mailserver, so i dont think it can spam
[21:10] <linuxnewbe> ok
[21:10] <aaditya> hey peeps, i'm unable to set a systemwide wireless network config using NetworkManager. It says: "
[21:10] <aaditya> "Adding connection failed: PolicyKit authorization could not be created."
[21:11] <linuxnewbe> spam is not the right term... I use spam for deliver... what is the right term?
[21:11] <mgedmin> crdlb: thanks, that fixed it!
[21:11] <maco> linuxnewbe: but if you dont update your software (OS, apache, your wordpress install if you've got one, etc) of course someone can jack your server
[21:11] <s0u][ight> coz_, i just wanted to share what i'm getting, going to install something else tomorrow anyway :D
[21:11] <calc> BUGabundo1: its still a bug, i'm pretty sure i explained that to you already at least once
[21:11] <linuxnewbe> I've seen my apache is not the last
[21:11] <BUGabundo1> calc: I don't remember!
[21:11] <linuxnewbe> but usint apt-get I don't receive any update request
[21:11] <coz_> s0u][ight,  ok   sorry about this issue  I have not been able to recreat it here
[21:11] <BUGabundo1> maybe set a recommends on fuse?
[21:11] <calc> BUGabundo1: ok well it is a real bug
[21:12] <maco> linuxnewbe: so you would want to dig throught the whole thing and remove everything the cracker put on there, clean up all the bad stuff they added that's doing driveby downloads or whatever, and update all the software
[21:12] <aaditya> Anybody observed a difference in PolicyKit / NetworkManager in Jaunty?
[21:12] <s0u][ight> coz_, no appologize is needed :D
[21:12] <calc> BUGabundo1: but you just saw part of the issue by not having gvfs-fuse installed
[21:12] <BUGabundo1> calc: actually a recommends on gvfs-fusa
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> aaditya: i havent, i dont use it
[21:12] <linuxnewbe> where I found the bad staff?
[21:13] <s0u][ight> brb
[21:13] <calc> BUGabundo1: since OOo has %U instead of %F in desktop files it showed up
[21:13] <BUGabundo1> ok
[21:13] <aaditya> ActionParsnip: is there a better networking alternate for machines connecting to only one wifi? I ain't quite impressed with NetworkManager..
[21:13] <BUGabundo1> got it now
[21:13] <calc> BUGabundo1: if it had %F it would not have attempted to open the file at all without fuse being installed
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> aaditya: wifi-radar maybe. I always just edit the interfaces file personally so am not the best person to ask
[21:17] <maco> there's also wicd...heard good things about that
[21:18] <crdlb> he's gone, but I've found NM to be quite robust recently
[21:19] <BUGabundo1> crdlb: I think the same! I just a miss a one-button easy way to share networks, like anyone does in Windows
[21:19] <BUGabundo1> even Firestart won't work in my case... because NM prefers wired over any other network
[21:20] <bjsnider> sharing is what a router is for
[21:20] <Ienorand> crdlb: NO, only way for me to get networking in either Jaunty or intrepid is to disable the *mubleswearword* thing..
[21:20] <BUGabundo1> bjsnider: not when you have a 3G dongle and want to share the network via wired or wifi
[21:21] <Ienorand> I do not like N-M at the moment
[21:21] <crdlb> Ienorand: probably crappy wifi drivers
[21:21] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: on KDE? 'cause gnome's one is pretty good
[21:21] <crdlb> BUGabundo1: they make routers that take evdo cards
[21:21] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: gnome
[21:21] <BUGabundo1> or like crdlb said
[21:22] <BUGabundo1> crdlb: why get extra hw if I should be able to do it with my laptop?
[21:22] <BUGabundo1> actually according to dtchen, if I poke aroung iptables it should work... but that's not a one click solution
[21:23] <crdlb> laptops shouldn't be relied on for networking to other computers :)
[21:23] <coz_> networking  ---one click solutions?
[21:23] <crdlb> kind of defeats the purpose
[21:23] <coz_> :)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: they are ok if you want a small pc to slot out of the way
[21:24] <BUGabundo1> crdlb: don't the OMPLC do mesh?
[21:25] <crdlb> the OLPC is hardly a model of a successful idea ;P
[21:25] <crdlb> but that's a very different environment anyway
[21:26] <dennda> Halow: so /win 29
[21:26] <dennda> err
[21:31] <ubuntunewkid> i am using 9.04 on msft virtual pc
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: what is your issue?
[21:32] <ubuntunewkid> sound...no sound
[21:32] <ubuntunewkid> my sound card is on-board
[21:32] <ubuntunewkid> i dont know if that helps you
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: have you installed the guest additions?
[21:32] <BUGabundo1> ubuntunewkid: did you do what I asked you ?
[21:33] <ubuntunewkid> no
[21:33] <BUGabundo1> to report it on LP, and add the logs devs need?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> if the virtual pc has such  feature
[21:33] <ubuntunewkid> should i install guest additions?
[21:33] <ubuntunewkid> because i can
[21:33] <bardyr> yes
[21:33] <ubuntunewkid> ok
[21:33] <ubuntunewkid> i am going to do that right now
[21:34] <BUGabundo1> ok
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: did you check the iso you downloaded to install ubuntu?
[21:34] <ubuntunewkid> yes, i downloaded from the ubuntu home page
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: did the md5sum match?
[21:35] <ubuntunewkid> i am not sure
[21:35] <ubuntunewkid> i just clicked on install virtual machine additions
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: then you need to make sure dont you, if what you have downloaded isnt right then your install will be bad
[21:36] <ubuntunewkid> is there anything else i am supposed to do?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: you can also run the cd chacker on the first cd boot screen
[21:36] <ubuntunewkid> yeah,
[21:36] <ubuntunewkid> my download is clean.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: once the cd and iso check out 100% then I'd look into this but yo MUST check the md5sum to make sure the file you have downloaded hasn't become garbaged in transmission
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> http://arcanecode.com/2008/04/24/installing-ubuntu-804-under-microsoft-virtual-pc-2007/
[21:37] <ubuntunewkid> i have seen that website before...didn't do much for me
[21:38] <ubuntunewkid> is there something in the reg that i need to edit
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: ubuntu doesnt have a registry like the windows OS
[21:38] <night-phoenix> Hi :)
[21:38] <ubuntunewkid> the text editor is the way they edit reg
[21:39] <bardyr> ActionParsnip, gconf?
[21:39] <ubuntunewkid> i had to edit the reg in ubuntu to install it
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: you could try some bootoptions to see if that helps
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[21:40] <ubuntunewkid> ok
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: do you get the login screen ok?
[21:40] <ubuntunewkid> yes
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: does this error happen to all users?
[21:41] <ubuntunewkid> i am logged onto 9.04 right now...just no sound
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> ahhh
[21:41] <RichardWolfVI> "Upgrades from Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid are currently suspended due to a Python issue."
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> sorry, mixing myself up
[21:41] <RichardWolfVI> So I shouldn't?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: does lspci   give any clues?
[21:42] <ubuntunewkid> some users get no sound in ubuntu...but im not sure they are in beta 9.04
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> RichardWolfVI: i'd say no
[21:42] <BUGabundo1> ActionParsnip: don't loose that much time! prob kernel can't use the MSFT virtual PC emulated sound card
[21:42] <RichardWolfVI> after I upgrade to Jaunty beta, I'll get the stable release automatically?
[21:42] <BUGabundo1> getting and lshall and alsa.sh would collect enough data to debug this
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> RichardWolfVI: yes as you will have jaunty repos already added
[21:43] <BUGabundo1> RichardWolfVI: its fixed now!
[21:43] <BUGabundo1> no one updated Topic
[21:43] <RichardWolfVI> hehe, thanks
[21:43] <ubuntunewkid> can anyone lead me to a support forum on the no sound in ubuntu on msft vpc prob?
[21:44] <BUGabundo1> ubuntunewkid: I already told you 3 times......
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewkid: does lspci display a sound device?
[21:44] <bardyr> ubuntunewkid, try virtualbox instead of ms vpc
[21:44] <BUGabundo1> open a bug on launchpad using ubuntu-bug pulseaudio
[21:44] <ubuntunewkid> i tried that, it wouldnt install on my pc
[21:44] <ubuntunewkid> the installation stopped prematurely...said my system wasnt modifies
[21:44] <ubuntunewkid> modified, excuse me
[21:45] <ubuntunewkid> i cant get virtual box to work
[21:45] <BUGabundo1> thanks dtchen
[21:45] <ubuntunewkid> so i stick with vpc
[21:46] <BUGabundo1> I guess he didn't even tried to enable PAE on VBox! that makes it work!
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> his loss
[21:46] <BUGabundo1> yeah
[21:47] <RichardWolfVI> My, who's desperate enough to use VirtualPC
[21:48] <RichardWolfVI> well thanks for the response
[21:50] <YixilTesiphon> hi, I have gotten my atheros 242x card working to some extent but it is not recognizing any wireless networks
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> YixilTesiphon: does   sudo iwlist scan     show APs/
[21:51] <YixilTesiphon> no
[21:51] <YixilTesiphon> "no scan results"
[21:52] <YixilTesiphon> I'm in an apartment building in a college town, so there should be 10 or 20 networks showing up
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> YixilTesiphon: is the killswitch set on so the device is active?
[21:52] <YixilTesiphon> ActionParsnip: how would I check that?
[21:53] <BUGabundo1> iwconfig
[21:54] <YixilTesiphon> wlan0 shows a device, yes
[21:54] <YixilTesiphon> with iwconfig
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> YixilTesiphon: its the switch on the pysical laptop to turn the wifi off and on
[21:54] <LiMaO> hey everyone, how do i make it so that the 'documents' folder do not get recreated all the time?
[21:54] <YixilTesiphon> ActionParsnip: ah
[21:55] <maco> LiMaO: take the XDG User Dirs stuff out of autostart
[21:55] <YixilTesiphon> it is highlighted red but does not respond when I press it
[21:55] <lamalex> anyone here using the indicator applet with pidgin, and working suspend resume?
[21:55] <maco> lamalex: yeah
[21:55] <LiMaO> maco: thanks a lot, let me have a look at it
[21:55] <lamalex> maco: does it die when you resume?
[21:56] <maco> lamalex: no
[21:56] <lamalex> if i have pidgin running, suspend, resume, the indicator looks like it has no data providersrunning
[21:56] <YixilTesiphon> oh, it can now see networks
[21:56] <BUGabundo1> LiMaO: unselect it from startup
[21:56] <YixilTesiphon> weird, but awesome
[21:56] <YixilTesiphon> thanks all
[21:56] <BUGabundo1> lamalex: I got it crashing a few times
[21:57] <lamalex> BUGabundo1: same, but I can reporude it every time with suspend
[21:57] <BUGabundo1> not me
[21:57] <LiMaO> maco and BUGabundo1, i can't find it neither in autostart, service manager or session manager.. btw, using kde
[21:58] <BUGabundo1> LiMaO: ahh my tip was for gnome
[21:58] <LiMaO> BUGabundo: btw, are you brazilian?
[21:59] <BUGabundo> LiMaO: PT
[21:59] <grodius> hey can anyone help me out? im using an  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) chip and im trying to get compiz to work.
[22:00] <LiMaO> BUGabundo: oh ok, i knew your nick was related to 'vagabundo' heh
[22:00] <BUGabundo> grodius: you prob can't!
[22:00] <BUGabundo> grodius: did you look in LP for your bug?
[22:01] <maco> LiMaO: i dont know hwere kde puts the xdg stuff...
[22:02] <maco> BUGabundo: why "you prob cant"? that chip has worked for compiz since edgy
[22:02] <grodius> BUGabundo: yea, people have had it but no one has answered
[22:02] <maco> er wait...no that might be the newer one from gutsy
[22:02] <grodius> BUGabundo: but it isnt a bug really, I've fixed it before in my xorg.
[22:02] <maco> anyway, im going to do homework now. nobody ping me.
[22:02] <grodius> BUGabundo: you have to just add a couple of lines. i just need to find someone with the same chipset as me that has it working
[22:03] <BUGabundo> maco grodius https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871/comments/120
[22:03] <maco> BUGabundo: reading fail
[22:04] <LiMaO> hey, just for reference: anyone looking to disable the xdg user dirs under kde, just edit /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf and set the 'enabled' variable to 'false'
[22:06] <LiMaO> another issue, anyone having problems installing sun-java* ?
[22:07] <thiebaude> LiMaO: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[22:07] <LiMaO> thiebaude: kubuntu-restricted-extras (the one which applies to me, under kde) is broken in jaunty
[22:08] <LiMaO> thiebaude: the meta package doesn't install anything at all
[22:08] <LiMaO> thiebaude: i was installing everything manually, but the sun-java packages are giving some problems.. the license cannot be shown and accepted, thus giving some errors
[22:09] <thiebaude> ok
[22:10] <thiebaude> LiMaO: sun java didn't show the ok button to press to accept the license
[22:12] <EvilAIM> Hey, any of you guys seen this mirror testing script?
[22:12] <EvilAIM> it downloads a file from all the mirrors to tell you which is the fastest.
[22:12] <EvilAIM> the one it told me is the fastest is topping out my 15mbit...
[22:12] <EvilAIM> I'm getting 2.5 MB/s bursts.
[22:15] <EagleScreen> hello i use Kubuntu 9.04
[22:15] <EvilAIM> Neato.
[22:15] <EagleScreen> it hangs very often, it may be cuased by Xorg or by ext4
[22:16] <EagleScreen> how could I check if ext4 is the problem?
[22:16] <LiMaO> is there a way of downgrading from amarok 2 to 1.x?
[22:16] <EvilAIM> Have you checked your system logs yet?
[22:17] <EvilAIM> limao: get the source files and manually compile it, but remove amarok 2 first via apt-get remove
[22:17] <EvilAIM> then auto clean
[22:18] <LiMaO> doh, isn't it available in the repos? compiling something by hand isn't that recommended nowadays on such a system
[22:18] <EvilAIM> try: apt-cache search amarok
[22:18] <seiflotfy3> hi guys! Wil the new nvidia drivers be inserted into Jaunty
[22:18] <EvilAIM> see if they still have the old one.
[22:18] <seiflotfy3> sine the current ones in the repository heat up the GU
[22:18] <thiebaude> LiMaO: no amarok 2 is in synaptic
[22:18] <seiflotfy3> GPu
[22:19] <BUGabundo> guud night everyone! cu tommorow
[22:19] <LiMaO> seiflotfy3: i have no problems with the drivers in the repo.. tested on both a 8800gts alpha dog and a 6200le
[22:19] <thiebaude> good nite BUGabundo
[22:19] <EvilAIM> ya, I'm about to install this 9.04 64 bit with ext4
[22:20] <EvilAIM> I have the nvidia, so we'll see how this works out for me:)
[22:20] <thiebaude> how do i install ext4?
[22:20] <EvilAIM> thiebaude: it's an option in the installer
[22:20] <EvilAIM> I wouldn't recommend installing it dirty.
[22:20] <EvilAIM> clean install is the best way
[22:20] <thiebaude> EvilAIM: i upgraded from 8.10
[22:20] <thiebaude> ok
[22:21] <SwedeMike> I tried 9.04 on a machine with 9300 onboard, and manually installed nvidia 180.44 and used it on a 1080p display. as soon as I tried running 1080p h264 material with for instance mplayer, xorg went to 100% cpu and I had to kill -KILL Xorg because basically everything stopped working in X
[22:21] <Extremssaeufer30> island monkeys and tommys
[22:21] <Extremssaeufer30> are stupid
[22:22] <EvilAIM> Ya, I'm going to try it all out.
[22:22] <EvilAIM> should be interesting:)
[22:23] <EvilAIM> This new Mirror testing script is amazing.
[22:23] <EvilAIM> it downloads a small file from every mirror and tells me which is the fastest.  The one it showed me is topping out my 15mbit.
[22:24] <Extremssaeufer30> You've been kicked out of #opensolaris by e^ipi (e^ipi)
[22:28] <EvilAIM> If anyone wants to check which mirror is fastest, I have a test script to assist.
[22:28] <EvilAIM> http://www.pastebin.ca/1383080
[22:29] <EvilAIM> it has instructions and is very very low resource.
[22:30] <sdf2> hi
[22:31] <sdf2> does pulseaudio installed into ubuntu 9.04?
[22:31] <EvilAIM> I'm pretty sure it will
[22:31] <sdf2> TT
[22:31] <EvilAIM> ok
[22:32] <EvilAIM> wish me luck, I'm installing the os now
[22:32] <sdf2> good luck
[22:32] <sdf2> lets hope we will never see pulseaudio again...
[22:32] <EvilAIM> :)
[22:33] <sdf2> let people choose, if they want or not :p
[22:33] <Twigathy> most of the time pulse is fine, but sometimes it does Really Weird Stuff :(
[22:33] <sdf2> i can't make teamspeak work good with pulse :(
[22:34] <EvilAIM> Well, it isn't really a '
[22:34] <EvilAIM> er
[22:34] <EvilAIM> not really a choice thing.  you use what works.
[22:34] <philsf> sdf2: PA will most likely stay, and people can choose
[22:34] <sdf2> its hard to get rid of pa....
[22:35] <philsf> sdf2: sudo aptitude remove pulseaudio <- not hard
[22:35] <EvilAIM> ok, lets see how this works.
[22:35] <EvilAIM> bbs (hopefully)
[22:35] <sdf2> i will definitely try it...
[22:39] <LiMaO> an issue i was having on the alphas is that it was impossible to get 5.1 sound working correctly... still have to test it on the beta
[22:42] <j5098> so i'm trying to get my frame rate for desktop effects to not suck in jaunty
[22:42] <j5098> i have an intel chipset, anyone have luck with this?
[22:45] <mnemo> j5098: EXA currently has gigantic perf regression
[22:45] <mnemo> j5098: switching to UXA mode will make it go fast again like intrepid or better but UXA is unstable on some chipsets
[22:45] <mnemo> j5098: what chipset do you have?
[22:47] <j5098> mnemo, 945g? i think
[22:48] <j5098> mnemo, i tried adding the uxa thing in my device section of xorg, but then i couldn't even get to the login window
[22:48] <mnemo> ah, then you're stuck between a rock and a hard place
[22:48] <mnemo> but for 945 there actually another perf regression which is being fixed
[22:48] <mnemo> if you have an error in xorg.log that says "tiling" isnt being activated
[22:49] <mnemo> that error will likely get fixed before release
[22:49] <mnemo> but the status is still unknown for the general EXA perf problem
[22:49] <bjsnider> maybe he just screwed up the syntax and that's why uxa didn't take
[22:49] <mnemo> yea or that
[22:51] <mnemo> j5098: if your xorg.log contains:
[22:51] <mnemo> (EE) intel(0): Failed to set tiling on front buffer: No such file or directory
[22:51] <mnemo> then you might be hitting this one --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/349992
[22:53] <mnemo> however, as I said... my EXA perf on G45 is still so bad the machine is unusable in EXA and I dont have the tiling problem...
[22:55] <j5098> mnemo, hmmm, i'm not in ubuntu right now
[22:55] <j5098> i'll have to check later
[22:55] <j5098> thx tho
[22:59] <urthmover> How do I clean up qt and openoffice after I do an upgrade from intrepid to jaunty?  something about Fix Workarounds?
[23:00] <Joker_-_> Hi, any help on setting up bluetooth headphones as "normal" headphones would be appreciated...
[23:00] <Joker_-_> My headset is paired, but can't get any sound out of em
[23:03] <EagleSn> please could you tell me if do you think this Xorg.log.0.old has any issue?
[23:03] <EagleSn> http://pastebin.com/f44a8c851
[23:03] <danbhfive_jaunty> anyone know about the suspend resume script testing thing?  Specifically, why haven't the timer controls been switched, as suggested upstream?
[23:06] <the7thmagus_> hey, I am using Kubuntu Jaunty and my file delete and empty trash operations do not work. its just stalled and stays there forever. KIOslave delete process takes up massive CPU time
[23:07] <bytor4232> Well, I will say one thing about Jaunty, my battery life is improved!  I went from an hour and 10 to an hour and a half plus!
[23:08] <bytor4232> I don't know if switching to Xubuntu had anything to do with it.
[23:09] <EagleSn> I think yes, I heared one time that XFCE save battery
[23:09] <bytor4232> Maybe it accesses the hdd less or something.
[23:10] <rconan> well the whole thing is smaller, uses less processor, less memory
[23:10] <rconan> of course it saves power
[23:16] <danbhfive_jaunty> what does the kernaloops thing do?  I sent one off, but it just disappeared...
[23:17] <mnemo> apt-get source kerneloops
[23:17] <mnemo> heh
[23:17] <mnemo> I think it submits data to www.kerneloops.org so mainline kernel devs get it
[23:17] <mnemo> you can look up your submitted crashes there
[23:18] <danbhfive_jaunty> huh, that's pretty cool
[23:19] <danbhfive_jaunty> its like a useful garbage can  :)
[23:19] <mnemo> danbhfive_jaunty: you can get statistics on what kind of crashes on the most common, and then fix those first etc
[23:20] <ondisk> kerneloops is indeed really cool
[23:22] <RichardWolfVI> hello
[23:22] <mnemo> hello Richard Wolf the 6th
[23:22] <mnemo> what is your mind?
[23:22] <RichardWolfVI> What's the issue with python-uniconvertor?
[23:22] <RichardWolfVI> hey mnemo
[23:23] <mnemo> ehm, what error are you seeing?
[23:23] <RichardWolfVI> it seems I can't install said package
[23:23] <mnemo> hmm, there has been a lot problems with python package today
[23:23] <RichardWolfVI> it's installed, though
[23:23] <mnemo> some update that was buggy I think
[23:23] <mnemo> not sure exactly
[23:24] <RichardWolfVI> better keep waithing
[23:24] <RichardWolfVI> *waiting
[23:26] <mnemo> yeah it will probably go away in like 2-3 days at most
[23:31] <the7thmagus_> hey, I am using Kubuntu Jaunty and my file delete and empty trash operations do not work. its just stalled and stays there forever. KIOslave delete process takes up massive CPU time
[23:36] <|ns|nR8> i duel boot 8.10 with 9.04 running ext4...grub info is stored on the ext4 partition...if 8.10 updates kernel will it be able to update the grub info on the 9.04 partition..i was just wondering since 8.10 cant normall access ext4
[23:38] <J-_> Anyone else having problems with alarm-clock hard locking the desktop?
[23:41] <kklimonda> why doesn't update-notifier show icon in tray when new updates are available?
[23:42] <RichardWolfVI> J-_: Yes, it's hanging for me
[23:51] <LiMaO> how do i configure pulseaudio for 5.1 sound output? running kubuntu jaunty
[23:59] <StevenX> Hello. How do I add a multiverse repo to jaunty? I want to install the latest vlc (0.9.9) and the repos only have (0.9.8).


[00:43] <stormmore> has anyone put MaaS components onto switch hardware?
[18:01] <mup> Bug #1653797 changed: [2.1.2] Unable to deploy nodes with NVME drives <canonical-bootstack> <cdo-qa> <cdo-qa-blocker> <MAAS:Confirmed for cgregan> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1653797>
[20:50] <ejat> can maas 2.0 and juju 2.0 works to build Canonical OpenStack Autopilot?


[20:03] <Majora320> Hello, world!
[21:24] <knome> would anybody miss the current dropdown boxes for filters in favor or a search that actually simply searched for all text in the row?
[21:25] <knome> eg. when you'd type "simon", you would see all work items assigned for simon, and any that would contain the word "simon" in the description, or those that would have been tagged with "simon" ?
[21:26] <ochosi> sounds ok to me, although i like the dropdowns
[21:26] <knome> also, "tagged?", you might ask ;)
[21:27] <ochosi> :)
[21:27] <ochosi> indeed
[21:28] <knome> well, since we aren't pulling from LP specs any more, i've replaced the specs with a tagging system
[21:28] <knome> so you can now actually have one item appear both in dev and artwork, if appropriate
[21:28] <knome> ok ok, nothing "appears" anywhere yet... but you can save tags as you like.
[21:28] <ochosi> that sounds useful
[21:29] <knome> yep
[21:29] <knome> bit more flexible
[21:53] <knome> people using the sorting much?
[22:08] <ochosi> Unit193, bluesabre: btw, i think it'd be good to include all the gtk3 panel plugins in 16.10 (since it's not LTS)
[22:09] <knome> yeah
[22:09] <knome> we haven't decided on leadership yet, but my position is "dump as much gtk3 stuff in as soon as possible"
[22:10] <ochosi> mhm
[22:11] <knome> we have 2 years to target a stable system
[22:11] <ochosi> hopefully at least by then we'll have xfce4.14 :]
[22:12] <knome> yeah
[22:12] <knome> maybe
[22:14] <flocculant> knome: prefer dropdowns - why type when you don't need too
[22:14]  * knome shrugs
[22:14] <knome> i always type :P
[22:14] <flocculant> why bother
[22:14] <flocculant> there are dropdowns
[22:14] <knome> why bother grabbing the mouse :P
[22:15] <flocculant> I really don't want to do more than I currently need to
[22:15] <knome> :D
[22:15] <flocculant> not that it'll make much difference I guess - the tracker's your toy ;)
[22:16] <knome> i can keep the dropdowns
[22:16] <knome> actually i already made sure they work in the new one :P
[22:16] <flocculant> if I have to - I'll just move back to trello and do all the qa stuff there and not track it
[22:16] <flocculant> to be frank
[22:16] <knome> because of dropdowns? :P
[22:17] <knome> well anyway you'll have them so..
[22:17] <flocculant> because of change for change sake
[22:17] <knome> indeed, the grumpy old man
[22:17] <knome> :)
[22:17] <flocculant> yup
[22:18] <flocculant> knome: happy with the pad thing?
[22:18] <knome> yeah, i need to process that :P
[22:19] <flocculant> okey doke
[22:19] <knome> probably today
[22:20] <knome> have been busy with things lately
[22:20] <flocculant> yep
[22:20] <flocculant> just wanted to know is all :)
[22:20] <knome> yeah, i looked at the changes already and they looked okay
[22:21] <flocculant> k - cool
[22:21] <flocculant> back tomorrow - just popped in quickly
[22:22] <knome> pop-pe-di-pop
[22:23] <flocculant> knome: what do you mean by "we aren't pulling from LP specs any more" btw?
[22:23] <knome> in the new version, LP blueprints aren't used any more
[22:23] <knome> so you can do all of your work item work in the tracker
[22:24] <knome> (no, it's not live yet)
[22:24] <flocculant> I'd hope not - no-one in team has had a discussion about it yet
[22:24] <knome> of course i won't push it there without a discussion
[22:25] <flocculant> anyway - night all :)
[22:58] <knome> ok, mail sent


[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:11] <arcsky> hey how can i give me full access to a tool called hping3 ?
[09:11] <arcsky> my friend*
[09:12] <OpenTokix> arcsky: in /etc/sudoers
[09:12] <lordievader> !info hping3
[09:12] <OpenTokix> arcsky: username ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/hping3
[09:12] <arcsky> OpenTokix: but can i specify only that program ?
[09:12] <arcsky> ah thanks
[09:13] <OpenTokix> arcsky: yes, I was writing that line for you =)
[09:13] <OpenTokix> lordievader: Next time maybe understand the question, before you show of your amazing bot skills
[09:13] <lordievader> OpenTokix: That wasn't about amazing bot skills, just wanted to know what hping was ;)
[09:14] <OpenTokix> Potentially very abusive networking tool
[09:15] <arcsky> OpenTokix: do i need to retsrat anything?
[09:16] <OpenTokix> arcsky: relog in a new shell
[09:17] <arcsky> doesnt work
[09:17] <arcsky> arcsky  ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/hping3
[09:19] <OpenTokix> and you did: sudo hping3 -options foo.bar.com
[09:19] <OpenTokix> ?
[09:20] <arcsky> ah ok
[09:20] <arcsky> thanks
[10:20] <friendlyguy> hi there! is in ubuntu 14.04.02 something present that mounts zfs filesystems upon start?
[10:20] <friendlyguy> (i read about a "mountall" package)
[10:22] <friendlyguy> what I'm experiencing is that upon reboot some of the filesystem in a zpool get mounted and some not.
[10:33] <RoyK> friendlyguy: zfsonlinux or fuse?
[10:33] <RoyK> fuse as in ubuntu-zfs
[10:33] <friendlyguy> zfsonlinux
[10:34] <RoyK> any mountpoints outside your /pool?
[10:35] <friendlyguy> outside of your pool... i guess not
[10:35] <friendlyguy> have a look at:
[10:35] <friendlyguy> http://pastebin.com/YsUvmW7E
[10:35] <friendlyguy> it's the output of "zfs get all | grep mount"
[10:35] <friendlyguy> right after boot
[10:36] <friendlyguy> backup_b and backup_a are mounted, but not the rest
[10:36] <friendlyguy> not even /datatank
[10:36] <RoyK> wierd - try to ask on #zfsonlinux
[10:37] <friendlyguy> already did that
[10:38] <friendlyguy> also, if i run a (zfs mount -a or a mountall command after boot ALL filesystems except /datatank get mounted
[10:41] <RoyK> I've seem something like that before
[10:42] <RoyK> thing is, ubuntu (and debian?) starts zfs rather late in the boot process, so if a daemon starts before it and opens some files on an existing mountpoint, that one isn't mounted
[10:43] <RoyK> but then again, I have no idea if that could be the case for you
[10:43] <friendlyguy> any idea how to troubleshoot
[10:45] <friendlyguy> it's pretty untouched. installed ubuntu, setup the cryptdevices, derived keys, installed zfs and samba for smb sharing
[10:45] <RoyK> then probably not the thing I saw
[10:47] <friendlyguy> i installed: htop bwm-ng screen vim ubuntu-zfs  samba and ethtool
[10:54] <arcsky> anyone have tested to use ssh to authenticate with Windows AD or windows NPS?
[10:54] <OpenTokix> arcsky: I am assuming that would be handled by the underlying pam-modules for the thing, and ssh would not know the difference
[12:17] <coreycb> jamespage, can you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/utopic/python-keystonemiddleware/1.0.0-1ubuntu1/+merge/262010
[13:51] <teward> zul: ping - when the server meeting starts please give me a ping, I may be shifting my head through three other screens and may miss the initial 'start' time.  my phone will buzz if you ping me though, either here or in -meeting.
[13:52] <zul> teward: sure
[13:52] <teward> thanks
[15:54] <teward> zul: i'll be back within 10 minutes, if you can delay the item I put on the agenda for at least that long into the meeting, that'd be great
[15:54] <teward> (gotta grab something from the car xD)
[15:54] <zul> teward: afaik im not driving the meeting
[15:54] <teward> ok
[15:54] <teward> you're listed as chair
[15:55] <teward> according to the agenda page :)
[15:55] <teward> (i'll be back)
[15:58] <teward> no problem though (I'm back, i thought what i was looking for rolled under the seat, turns out it didn't xD)
[16:46] <IrfanAlam_> any one here ?
[16:53] <IrfanAlam_> anyone here to help ?
[16:54] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: ask your question, wait a few hours, see if someone answers
[16:55] <IrfanAlam_> how to install php cli ?
[16:55] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: apt-get install php5-cli
[16:57] <IrfanAlam_> cli installed but still problem is there...
[16:57] <IrfanAlam_> how to install ffmpeg ?
[16:57] <Odd_Bloke> IrfanAlam_: If you describe your full problem, then someone will be able to give you a full answer; asking a bit at a time makes it difficult for people to answer helpfully.
[16:58] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: ffmpeg is not in ubuntu; use avconf (apt-get install libav-tools)
[16:58] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: pardon me, avconv
[16:59] <IrfanAlam_> please see this and solve all the NO problems http://<IP_ADDRESS>/nhcefiles.com/web/_h5ai/
[17:00] <Pici> /70/36
[17:01] <tarpman> IrfanAlam_: command-not-found or packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file can help you find the commands you're missing
[17:02] <IrfanAlam_> I am very new to linux.... please tell me what command to enter in ssh to solve the problem
[17:09] <IrfanAlam_> anyone there ?
[17:13] <histo> !info ffmpeg
[17:14] <histo> how is du not available
[17:14] <paultag> coreutils
[17:15] <histo> paultag: should be installed on his system is what I'm saying.
[17:15] <paultag> Yeah, it's marked Essential
[17:15] <histo> IrfanAlam_: does du work in a terminal on that system
[17:16] <IrfanAlam___> anyone ?
[17:17] <histo> IrfanAlam___: can you respond to the question..
[17:18] <paultag> Ah, ahaha
[17:18] <IrfanAlam___> I was disconnected... I didn't saw the question, can you please tell agian ?
[17:19] <IrfanAlam___> histo: 4       ./.cache 1364    .
[17:20] <histo> IrfanAlam___: can we keep this in one channel. du is installed but your silly web script doesn't think it's available.
[17:20] <IrfanAlam___> what about zip and ffmpeg and convert ?
[17:21] <histo> IrfanAlam___: you can install those if you want.  sudo apt-get install packagename
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> histo
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> I installed zip
[17:23] <IrfanAlam___> but convert, Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package convert
[17:26] <TJ-> IrfanAlam___: Do you mean the 'convert' program from the "imagemagick" package?
[17:26] <IrfanAlam___> I don't know but it says , you see here http://<IP_ADDRESS>/nhcefiles.com/web/_h5ai/
[17:27] <histo> !file convert
[17:28] <histo> what happened to ubottu could you search for what package provides x
[17:29] <histo> IrfanAlam___: install the imagemagick package
[17:30] <IrfanAlam___> how ?
[17:30] <Pici> The same way that you've installed other packages.
[17:31] <histo> fml
[17:31] <histo> IrfanAlam___: apt-get install packagename
[17:33] <YamakasY> anyone using samba against kerberos ?
[17:33] <ogra_> do you want to know who wins ?
[17:34] <YamakasY> LOL
[17:34] <ogra_> :)
[17:34] <YamakasY> both are pigs atm :P
[17:34] <ogra_> (and no, i dont, sorry)
[17:36] <YamakasY> damn
[17:37] <tarpman> YamakasY: what do you mean by "samba against kerberos"?
[17:39] <YamakasY> tarpman: auth
[17:50] <YamakasY> tarpman: any idea ?
[17:51] <tarpman> YamakasY: sorry, if it's AD-related I am probably the wrong person. no experience with the MS bits
[17:51] <tarpman> YamakasY: generally, ask your question, wait and see whether someone comes up with an answer
[17:51] <YamakasY> tarpman: nah linux kerberos
[18:17] <tarpman> YamakasY: based on a brief test, I got samba/smbclient to work with heimdal-kdc but not krb5-kdc. YMMV, I probably did something wrong. so, what was your question? :)
[18:21] <YamakasY> tarpman: I can't get it auth, I get some weird error: Failed to initialize kerberos context! (Invalid argument)
[18:23] <tarpman> YamakasY: that's not enough info. crank up the log level
[18:23] <YamakasY> tarpman: are you calling me a crank now ?? :P
[18:23] <tarpman> YamakasY: pardon me. "crank up" is an expression, means "increase"
[18:24] <tarpman> YamakasY: I run "smbd -F -S -d5", or even higher, when troubleshooting
[18:24] <YamakasY> tarpman: yeah, check the :P
[18:28] <YamakasY> tarpman: ok saf_fetch: failed to find server for "MYDOMAIN" domain
[18:28] <YamakasY> sitename_fetch: No stored sitename for MY.REALM
[18:30] <tarpman> YamakasY: is it possible for you to pastebin the entire log somewhere? showing what happens when you do for example smbclient -k -L //server (with a valid ticket)
[18:30] <tarpman> YamakasY: ideally in a situation where smbclient -L //server already works (without -k)
[18:36] <YamakasY> tarpman: need to check, just a sec
[18:44] <YamakasY> tarpman: I wonder about the workgroupname, should it be known in ldap ?
[18:44] <tarpman> YamakasY: the workgroup name needs to be the same as the krb realm name (AFAIK). I don't believe ldap is relevant here (other than to the extent you need a working samba setup)
[18:47] <YamakasY> tarpman: ok, but if you realm is My.DOMAIN
[18:48] <YamakasY> or my.domain.local
[18:48] <tarpman> YamakasY: looks like I lied and the workgroup and realm can be separate
[18:49] <tarpman> (but did not actually verify)
[18:49] <YamakasY> tarpman: yes they can
[18:51] <YamakasY> tarpman: mhh I get no login servers, but hostnames are OK
[18:53] <tarpman> YamakasY: maybe the 'password server' samba option? not sure what the exact cases are where that's needed...
[18:57] <YamakasY> tarpman: that is set, it get's an IP back it says
[18:57] <tarpman> sorry, since I can't see your actual setup or output I am really just throwing out random guesses :)
[19:04] <YamakasY> tarpman: yeah I know
[19:04] <YamakasY> no prob
[23:00] <dfgass> has anoyone had issues with dropbox on 15.04?
[23:00] <dfgass> i can not get a link at all
[23:17] <b4tm4n> is there an accepted way to connect on boot to a vpn (openvpn)?
[23:59] <histo> b4tm4n: what are you using to configure your network connection?