[00:00] <jamesjedimaster> khalidmian> there is skype
[00:00] <sant> videochat ?
[00:00] <khalidmian> jamesjedimaster: voicechat via skype only?
[00:00] <khalidmian> what about video confrencing
[00:01] <drostie> mefisto__: I have no idea whether just overwriting the relevant bytes would fix anything or not.
[00:01] <mefisto__> khalidmian: kopete doesn't work?
[00:01] <khalidmian> kopete for voice?
[00:01] <armymania> naaber
[00:01] <armymania> hic turkce konusan varmi burda
[00:02] <drostie> I've been kind of distant because I'm still trying to make sense of the (cylinders,heads) etc info that's given in the MBR.
[00:02] <khalidmian> oh u mean kopete for video confrencing
[00:03] <khalidmian> lol so i use kopete for video confrencing and skype for voice? is there something that does both at same time
[00:03] <mefisto__> khalidmian: I don't really know what kopete can do. don't really use it. I was just asking you
[00:04] <khalidmian> mefisto__: never used kopete for video confrencing
[00:04] <talvik> since the last update my kde 4.2 apps (kubuntu pakages), are trying to access libs from my kde svn build. Does someone have kde4.2 packages and kde svn in ~/kde folder?
[00:05] <DaSkreech> Skype does video conferencing
[00:06] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: sudo apt-get install skype i assume
[00:06] <khalidmian> ?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> !skype
[00:07] <DaSkreech> Also Skype has the latest Linux version on the site in .deb
[00:17] <drostie> blech. I'm too tired to follow that much more. --_--;; gothpaw, you might want to ask someone to help you through using gparted, if possible, to resize the main partition. I don't know if gparted preserves file integrity on vfat or not, you'll have to ask someone else.
[00:18] <drostie> You might be able to fix the problem by pointing your MBR record (look up MBR on wikipedia to get the format) at the "limit" specified in your /var/log/messages, namely, 488397168 (= 0x1D1C5970)
[00:19] <drostie> At least, that might stop the kernel from trying to access the area outside of the partition and then complaining when it can't do so.
[00:20] <gothpaw> drostie: well I really do appreciate all your help. Thank you
[00:20] <Barridus> hi guys, trying my hand with KDE (used gnome a bit).  the bottom bar seems to appear but then vanish before i can do anything with it.  doesn't appear when i move the mouse to any corner or edge.  anyone can help please?
[00:21] <drostie> Make sure you keep around enough information to undo any work that you do. the [sudo dd if=/dev/sdd of=/home/gothpaw/mbrbackup bs=512 count=1] command will write a physical backup to your local disk.
[00:21] <GWild> Barridus: Is this Intrepid w/ Kde 4.1 or 4.2?
[00:21] <mefisto__> gothpaw: I've got a feeling you would have a similar problem with gparted. that is, gparted not reading the partition
[00:22] <mefisto__> gothpaw: but if you can get gparted to read the partition, see if you can copy the partition to another disk, so your data is safe in case disaster strikes
[00:22] <Barridus> gwild, i have no idea honestly, there's not enough of a gui for me to see anything.  is there a console command that will say?
[00:24] <mahero> algun ubuntero de Mexico
[00:24] <Barridus> i literally installed the kubuntu-desktop package, logged into a KDE session, played with it for like half an hour, then poof XD
[00:26] <mefisto__> Barridus: kquitapp plasma
[00:26] <mefisto__> Barridus: rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[00:27] <mefisto__> Barridus: plasma (to start it again)
[00:28] <Barridus> /bin/sh: kquitapp: not found
[00:29] <mefisto__> Barridus: whereis kquitapp   ??
[00:30] <gothpaw> mefisto__: I do fear you are correct as when I run 'sudo parted -l' when it gets to the drive in question it states 'Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!'
[00:30] <Barridus> mefisto__, i have no idea.  maybe my kde busted?  i have no idea how, though
[00:31] <mefisto__> Barridus: that's a command: whereis kquitapp     it should come back with /usr/bin/kquitapp
[00:31] <gothpaw> drostie: would that just backup the MBR or the whole drive?
[00:33] <drostie> [man dd] will tell you that bs * count = the number of bytes backed up. (in this case, just the first 512 bytes.)
[00:34] <gothpaw> drostie: ok, thats what I was thinking, just wanted to clarify
[00:35] <drostie> *nods*
[00:37] <mefisto__> gothpaw: installing testdisk might give you more info on the problem too. it supposedly can fix partition problems as well, but I've never used it so you might want to google it if you decide to repair with it
[00:38] <cjae> has anyone here got separate xscreens working, I see that there was a bunch of updates out for the experimental respository (ppa. -kde 4.2) but adept doesn't tell you what it fixes, if its just security or if it fixes these issues
[00:39] <gothpaw> mefisto__: apparently it can repair alot of errors as such to what I am having issues with. read up on it via wiki... at this point I will do whatever it takes so long as the data is saved. (I wish this was a drive with some not so Vital data on it, sighs)
[00:39] <cjae> when I do separates x screens via tv -out I only get a black screen with an x mouse but cannot do anything on the tv
[00:40] <mefisto__> gothpaw: testdisk actually might make it easy to fix. I've just been playing with it on a usb thumb drive
[00:41] <cjae> I have even put an old xorg.conf that worked reliabley for many ubuntu distros, but not the new kde
[00:42] <gothpaw> mefisto__: installing testdisk right now
[00:43] <mefisto__> gothpaw: just be cautious
[00:45] <Barridus> mefisto__, 'whereis kquitapp' just returned 'kquitapp:'
[00:46] <mefisto__> Barridus: try to install kubuntu-desktop again. seems you don't have everything installed
[00:46] <Barridus> strange
[00:47] <Barridus> ok i guess i'll try that, mefisto__.  thanks
[00:47] <mefisto__> Barridus: do you have /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kquitapp ?
[00:52] <sreich> How do I enable file sharing in kde4-kubuntu ibex? Should I use NFS?
[00:53] <elizabeth> good afternoon 2 u all guys, i loke to ask 4 help again, ive been trying to configure my wireless card but it seems everything i do just dont work, i have laptop COMPAQ PRESARIO SERIES V3000 MODEL V3417LA.
[00:54] <elizabeth> i did just install kubuntu intrepid again fresh installation but it just wont detect the wireless card
[00:54] <elizabeth> in windows when downloading the drivers it says BROADCOM 802.11 sp39912.exe
[00:55] <elizabeth> and they work but in Kubuntu DO NOT EVEN DETECT WIRELESS CARD is there someone that can help me to configure this please???
[00:56] <jamesjedimaster> elizabeth> i have the same v3417la model, but i haven't upgraded to intrepid ibex
[00:57] <jamesjedimaster> elizabeth> what i know is that you must have all packages up to date, so the system can detect the broadcom hardware to use it
[00:58] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[00:59] <elizabeth> i do
[00:59] <elizabeth> but it wont detect the wireless card
[01:00] <jamesjedimaster> does it only detect the nvidia card?
[01:00] <elizabeth> i just did a fresh new installation again and made all updates, but just wont detect wireless card
[01:00] <elizabeth> yes
[01:00] <elizabeth> it only detect nvidia cards
[01:01] <jamesjedimaster> have you installed 8.04 on that laptop?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip1> elizabeth: is it an internal device or usb?
[01:01] <mefisto__> elizabeth: did you get it working before reinstalling?
[01:03] <elizabeth> internal device
[01:03] <elizabeth> ir
[01:04] <elizabeth> it comes by factory with it
[01:04] <jamesjedimaster> elizabeth> have you installed 8.04 on that laptop?
[01:04] <elizabeth> just once with kubuntu
[01:04] <elizabeth> s
[01:04] <elizabeth> but xomehow they got lost and since then i have been trying to getthem v
[01:04] <elizabeth> back by resintalling kubuntu
[01:05] <elizabeth> but it wont work
[01:05] <elizabeth> aqnd
[01:05] <mefisto__> elizabeth: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[01:05] <elizabeth> and followgin some wikiwifi on ubuntu and several other trick but none of them owrk
[01:05] <elizabeth> yes but kubuntu 8.04 is the same wont detect it
[01:06] <jamesjedimaster> elizabeth> in my laptop with 8.04 i had to reboot several times to get the wireless hardware detected, maybe you have to do that too
[01:06] <elizabeth> ok let me c f it works th
[01:06] <elizabeth> xs
[01:06] <elizabeth> txs
[01:09] <lecram> hey
[01:10] <icarus> ok, so I want to get in on the KDE 4.2 action because the UI looks so gorgeous. I've installed KDE 4.2 over Ubuntu 8.1. Is installing Kubuntu 8.1 worth it ?
[01:13] <mefisto__> icarus: huh? didn't you say you've installed it?
[01:13] <icarus> mefisto__: well, I've installed KDE 4.2 over Ubuntu 8.1 but I'm wondering if there is any advantage of actually getting Kubuntu 8.1
[01:14] <mefisto__> icarus: oh I see. I don't think it would be any different. kubuntu == ubuntu with kde
[01:15] <mefisto__> icarus: except you would have no gnome desktop
[01:16] <icarus> mefisto__: all right, 'cause I was trying to install Amarok 2 (and I still can't) and the instruction started talking about adaptec or something
[01:17] <drostie> icarus: actually, it might be a little worse. 8.10 runs on KDE 4.1, and it's only Jaunty 9.04 running on 4.2.
[01:17] <drostie> Not everyone has made the transition from 4.1 to 4.2 on 8.10 successfully.
[01:18] <icarus> drostie: all right, so I'll stick with Ubuntu 8.1 + KDE 4.2
[01:18] <mefisto__> icarus: yes, you would have to do the 4.2 update on kubuntu 8.10 too
[01:19] <drostie> adaptec is a hardware manufacturer for RAID and the like. Maybe you mean the adept package manager?
[01:20] <icarus> drostie: hum yes
[01:20] <icarus> drostie: it's like synaptic ?
[01:21] <drostie> Basically, except it comes in two flavors: Too Basic, and Too Much Info.
[01:21] <icarus> hum I see, so is that like the main difference ? ubuntu uses synpatic, kubuntu goes with adept ?
[01:23] <drostie> I believe synaptic is automatically installed on kubuntu as well. Not sure, but I believe.
[01:23] <drostie> But adept is the one marked prominently on the K menu.
[01:23] <mefisto__> no, I don't think synaptic is installed with kubuntu
[01:24] <drostie> (I'm basing this entirely on a line saying "automatically installed: yes" in aptitude, but I'm not sure exactly what that line means.)
[01:26] <icarus> ok well, I've used synpatic to get adept so I know have sorta full-fledged Kubuntu, having KDE4.2 + Adept ?
[01:27] <icarus> also, I'm so confused about installing Amarok 2? any of you guys installed ?
[01:27] <drostie> My amarok is <IP_ADDRESS> ... what's your issue with it?
[01:29] <DaddyLonglegs> Is "compensate" used correctly here? "The extra assignment will compensate the marks you lost on your midterm".
[01:29] <icarus> drostie: hum well, synpatic isn't offering me any 2.0 versions of Amarok
[01:30] <icarus> DaddyLonglegs: I'd say yes
[01:30] <DaddyLonglegs> Thanks icarus.
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> Should be "compensate for"
[01:30] <drostie> no. When compensate is used with a direct object, that direct object is the thing which is compensated.
[01:30] <drostie> Usually a person.
[01:31] <compilerwriter> Anyone know if Python 3 supports threading?
[01:31] <drostie> You compensate an employee for their time, for example.
[01:32] <icarus> so it would be "will compensate for the marks" ?
[01:32] <javimansilla> Hi there
[01:32] <wildbat> hi
[01:32] <icarus> hi there
[01:33] <icarus> drostie: how did you install amarok 2 ? via synpatic ? adept ? .deb package ?
[01:33] <DaddyLonglegs> drostie: You also think my senstence was correct?
[01:33] <wildbat> how do i make powerbutton show a menu instead of shutting down directly
[01:33] <javimansilla> How do I see what's new on an upgradable package? I mean... now I see that I can download konsole4:4.2.0-0. What changes, fixes, improvements should I expect installing that package?
[01:34] <DaddyLonglegs> Duh! I was gonna ask that question in English channel! Silly me!
[01:35] <drostie> icarus: it's in the jaunty repos, not the intrepid repos. If you have the dependencies in order, you could download from http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/amarok
[01:35] <DaddyLonglegs> Sorry guys!
[01:35] <icarus> drostie: does it not check for dependencies ?
[01:35] <drostie> DaddyLonglegs: Your sentence was incorrect.
[01:36] <drostie> But most English speakers will know what you meant.
[01:36] <DaddyLonglegs> drostie: I see. It should be "compensate for". Thanks anyways.
[01:37] <drostie> icarus: it will check for dependencies, but it might get cranky if it doesn't see the right stuff in its normal repos, I don't know.
[01:37] <icarus> man, this KDE4.2 really rocks solid! I'd go as far as to say that with the right themes, it outcandies MaxOsx and Win7
[01:37] <icarus> drostie: will see, this install I'm using it on is beta orgy
[01:40] <drostie> icarus: we still need to have the Really Slick Screensavers ports installed by default as part of KDE ^_^
[01:41] <nazareno> oi
[01:42] <drostie> they're in a package called rss-glx.
[01:44] <cjae> !ktouch
[01:44] <cjae> !info ktouch
[01:46] <cjae> does anyone know where lessons for ktouch are, did a locate search and only see .png and .xml but they all look like just part of the application
[01:48] <icarus> any awesome torrent clients you guys would recommend ?
[01:49] <cjae> ktorrent work very well and has an ip blocker built in but sucks for importing many torrents at a time
[01:49] <drostie> deluge is good, but it's GTK, which works but doesn't look quite natural. (See also: Firefox.)
[01:50] <cjae> qt is supposed to be the utorrent (windows) for linux I think but is still under development
[01:50] <cjae> haven't used deluge since edgy but it really sucked then
[01:51] <icarus> man utorrent tocls
[01:51] <icarus> rocks*
[01:52] <Staind> holaa
[01:52] <eliadosom> hola Hi
[01:52] <cjae> because it is small enough for windows to handle with a lot of torrents in it
[01:52] <drostie> ktorrent has a plasma widget in the repos, apparently.
[01:53] <cjae> ever used azureus with 50 torrents in it? sucks ass
[01:54] <icarus> I hate azureus
[01:54] <cjae> utorrent works with wine
[01:54] <cjae> !wine
[01:54] <icarus> cjae: does it work smoothly ?
[01:55] <cjae> very except for auto update
[01:55] <cjae> which may work now, idon't know
[01:55] <drostie> ooh! qbittorrent is pretty ^_^
[01:56] <wildbat> how do i make powerbutton show a menu instead of shutting down directly
[01:57] <drostie> Isn't pressing the power button treated like an escape sequence?  KTorrent can be used in Kubuntu. This was very much like utorrent in feisty but was too new
[01:59] <icarus> yes qbittorrent looks nice, all I see in client torrents is the UI, I don't know enough
[01:59] <mefisto__> oh jaunty
[01:59] <cjae> mefisto__: using or wishing for?
[01:59] <Wargasmic> i like transmission
[02:00] <icarus> transmission is a little simplistic
[02:00] <cjae> so is utorrent
[02:00] <Wargasmic> not really
[02:00] <Wargasmic> under the surface they are just as good as any other client
[02:00] <icarus> but qbittorrent looks a lot like the utorrent :)
[02:00] <Wargasmic> there's ways to do complicated things
[02:00] <mefisto__> cjae: waiting for official release. just got curious about qbittorrent
[02:00] <cjae> me too
[02:02] <icarus> all right, utorrent I guess
[02:02] <Wargasmic> utorrent is good
[02:02] <Wargasmic> but i've never tried it on linux
[02:04] <BluesKaj> utorrent runs very well in wine ...used it for a while , but ktorrent does the job now .
[02:05] <drostie> it's a shame that konqueror is borderline-unusable for me. I want Qt Firefox.
[02:06] <Wargasmic> some browsers just render better than others, firefox tends to be good
[02:07] <Wargasmic> i'll also be sticking with ktorrent, it looks sufficient
[02:07] <drostie> firefox form controls are ugly out of the box, as is the chrome. There's a nice kde skin for firefox, though, and a plugin package for the form controls that I haven't sought out yet.
[02:07] <cjae> I reccommend ktorrent except if you need to import many torrents
[02:08] <Wargasmic> i installed the kde theme for firefox. blends in very well.
[02:08] <mefisto__> drostie: my firefox looked great out of the box
[02:08] <Wargasmic> also, my firefox looked fine out of the box.
[02:09] <cjae> di you install with the no reccommends
[02:09] <cjae> did
[02:09] <Wargasmic> i installed with all recommends
[02:10] <mefisto__> drostie: this one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7574
[02:10] <Wargasmic> yes, that's what i used, mefisto__
[02:10] <cjae> cause mine look like shit and did the qtcurve thing and all
[02:10] <drostie> mefisto: yep, that's the goede skin.
[02:11] <Wargasmic> it's a good skin
[02:11] <mefisto__> Wargasmic: I use that one in hardy kde 3
[02:12] <cjae> I think it was a page that started like make firefox look like kde, the icons the only things that looked good
[02:12] <drostie> I like the comment on that page too. I think it should say, "It's recommended to install from the author's website (to save you a trip to bugmenot.com)"
[02:12] <cjae> or controls I mean
[02:12] <Wargasmic> i installed it from mozilla.com
[02:12] <Wargasmic> or, .org
[02:13] <mefisto__> both are the same. I think development has been abandoned on that theme
[02:14] <Wargasmic> could be, but there's another one out there that is similar which might be under development
[02:15] <drostie> But when I open up a page in Konqueror and Firefox, (e.g. google.com/search?q=stuff) I see a thin grey box around the form widgets (the input type=text and input type=button widgets), which shouldn't be there.
[02:15] <drostie> (in Firefox. It's not there in Konqueror.)
[02:15] <Wargasmic> i see it too but it hasn't bothered me
[02:16] <drostie> Well, that's what I mean about ugly form controls. ^_^
[02:16] <Wargasmic> dunno if i'd call it ugly but it could be better
[02:18] <icarus> can I apply skins to OpenOffice ?
[02:18] <drostie> the form controls, qua form controls, relative to norms of other browsers, are ugly. better?
[02:18] <mefisto__> drostie: I think that's qt4 in systemsettings > appearance > gtk styles & fonts
[02:18] <Wargasmic> well, ugly is subjective. i see what you're talking about though, don't worry.
[02:19] <mefisto__> drostie: if you use raleigh instead it isn't grey, but then the buttons aren't kde4 style
[02:21] <Wargasmic> yep that works
[02:21] <Wargasmic> just as you say
[02:21] <icarus> all right! ktorrent totally satisfies my candy love!
[02:22] <mefisto__> what was that other qt4 browser for kde4? someone mentioned it here a while ago. it's very basic atm, but looks promising
[02:23] <JontheEchidna> arora
[02:23] <mefisto__> yeah
[02:24] <cjae> icarus: you can use ip blocker as well actually IP filter you have to enable the plugin through preferences and manually install the iplist
[02:24] <drostie> I'm not sure I like Win95-style form controls more than Qt4 form controls with grey boxes around them ^_^
[02:25] <icarus> cjae: so actual content!
[02:25] <icarus> cjae: what's the Session options under Kubuntu ? like deciding what apps/daemons boot up ?
[02:25] <cjae> icarus: but the button press doesn't work because of bandwidth hogs at bluetrack, but you can manually download the file and convert it with ktorrent
[02:27] <icarus> "button press" ?
[02:27] <cjae> install it and look
[02:28] <cjae> there is a button to update the iplist autmatically but does not work
[02:28] <cjae> have a look at peergurdian if you don't know what I mean
[02:29] <drostie> icarus: in K > System Settings > Advanced options > Session Manager you can save the current windows/apps, and they will then magically run on login.
[02:29] <drostie> Also, at some point I added "knetworkmanager" to some debian script that runs at login time, don't remember which one it was exactly.
[02:30] <cjae> why would you want to do that if you you don't have a decent traffic shapper
[02:30] <icarus> drostie: thanks
[02:30] <Wargasmic> just installed arora, let's see how this works
[02:31] <icarus> cjae: oh ak, IP Filter button right ?
[02:31] <cjae> does ktorrent actually limit the badwidth reliably
[02:31] <yao_ziyuan> in linux, can a dynamic link library "inject" itself into a process like in windows?
[02:31] <yao_ziyuan> in linux, can a dynamic link library "inject" itself into a process like in windows?
[02:31] <yao_ziyuan> sorry, duplicate
[02:31] <yao_ziyuan> if there is a virus/trojan running, will it only take form of a process?
[02:32] <cjae> icarus: yes
[02:32] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: if an application is vulnerable to an exploit, or if you install a malicious driver, then yes. The benefit of Linux is that installation is centralized and done with digital signatures.
[02:32] <icarus> man, Session Manager isn't doing anything for me :(
[02:33] <icarus> there is no list of stuff to boot :S
[02:33] <mefisto__> icarus: session isn't restored?
[02:33] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: so, if you install from the repositories, there are definitely no viruses.
[02:33] <Wargasmic> that's the beauty of repos
[02:33] <Wargasmic> ^
[02:33] <drostie> icarus: it's not a list. It's literally a "save this current screen" type of deal.
[02:33] <icarus> mefisto__: no I mean, I can't tell it to start Ktorrent and nm-applet
[02:34] <mefisto__> icarus: it restores whatever was open when you log out
[02:34] <cjae> icarus: this way with ktorrent you are only blocking ktorrent traffic, not like moblock and block all those ips on every app on you computer
[02:34] <mefisto__> icarus: you can add things to ~/.kde/Autostart (scripts, or .desktop files)
[02:35] <icarus> cjae: cool actually
[02:35] <mefisto__> icarus: and there's a gui called autostart in systemsettings too. maybe not installed by default.
[02:35] <cjae> there is quite a bit of discussion about whether all of those ip's are a risk
[02:36] <icarus> mefisto__: right, it is, cool found it thanks
[02:36] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: the problem is with firefox. addons.mozilla.org provides https:// download links for firefox extensions, but they actually redirect to http:// links to download the actual files
[02:36] <icarus> cjae: sadly, don't know enough about the protocol to understand wise discussions like that
[02:36] <drostie> cjae: not all of them are. PeerGuardian disables HTTP access to the Astronomy Picture of the Day because it's a NASA site.
[02:37] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: so my government (china) can serve me a malicious extension
[02:37] <icarus> so when I shutdown and then login again, I get sames apps open again ? (like firefox session restore) ?
[02:38] <cjae> icarus: you block all potential antip2p sites like sony and such but you can block sites that are useful like what drostie said
[02:38] <mefisto__> icarus: yes. but you can exclude things from being saved in sessions if you don't want them starting up on login in the session manager
[02:38] <icarus> cjae: general blacklist problem
[02:39] <cjae> it also has blocks for sites that are carry nothing but spam or things that cold infect a windows computer
[02:40] <cjae> which makes it useful on all your computer apps hence moblock
[02:40] <icarus> mefisto__: yeah I saw the excluding list now
[02:41] <icarus> cool, I like the restore session idea
[02:41] <cjae> sucks
[02:41] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: you're right, and I'm surprised. It seems that releases.mozilla.org doesn't support SSL.
[02:41] <icarus> wow\
[02:42] <icarus> cjae: why does it suck ?
[02:42] <mefisto__> icarus: shift-F1 gives you context help in most systemsettings dialogs too. at least for most things. some help stuff isn't written yet
[02:42] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: does the Tor network work from China?
[02:42] <cjae> icarus: it said to block 1/3 of ip address in the world
[02:43] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: yes
[02:43] <cjae> icarus: you are talking about the kde session restore right
[02:43] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: obviously in the future i must use tor for updating extensions
[02:43] <icarus> cjae: yeah!
[02:44] <icarus> cjae: but I get the part where you say ipblocking can suck
[02:44] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: Well, that also depends. Do you trust arbitrary Tor end nodes more than you trust the Chinese government?
[02:44] <cjae> keep using it after awhile you wil see how restore session sucks
[02:45] <icarus> cjae: ah well why, it's basically 'start these apps' based on what apps were open!
[02:45] <icarus> anyone know if OpenOffice has themes ?
[02:45] <cjae> yes
[02:45] <mefisto__> cjae: I just kill X with ctrl-alt-backspace when I don't want a session saved/restored
[02:46] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: the best thing to do is to contact mozilla.org, tell them to get SSL running on their actual download site. Then the problem is solved both ways.
[02:46] <cjae> I haven't used the themes but have heard positive things about them
[02:46] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: of course i trust exit nodes abroad china
[02:46] <yao_ziyuan> drostie: i already reported this in irc.mozilla.org/#firefox
[02:47] <cjae> mefisto__: good idea but is bad when you have apps open that have been updated recently and the update breaks the app you forgot to close
[02:48] <drostie> yao_ziyuan: you probably shouldn't trust those nodes, I think. But it's better, at least, than the Chinese government.
[02:49] <mefisto__> cjae: never thought of that
[02:49] <drostie> anyway. good night from the netherlands everybody. I have classes tomorrow. --_--;;
[02:50] <cjae> bad too if you look at stupid stuff on the net and have a psycho g/f (that I don't have anymore, the new one is very well balanced) and you forget to close it properly
[02:50] <cjae> :/
[02:51] <icarus> where do you guys find openoffice themes?! I can't find any!
[02:52]  * cjae adjusts way of thinking and realizes that if you are looking at "stupid stuff" on the net, how can you be a judge of balance
[02:55] <khalid> hi
[02:57] <icarus> hello
[02:58] <cjae> http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/
[02:58] <cjae> I just stumpled upon it haven't looked yet
[03:01] <cjae> icarus: use google linux to search
[03:04] <icarus> apparently, representative of the uncanny valley http://icr.23d.com/images/the-uncanny-valley.jpg
[03:05] <icarus> google.com/linux ftw
[03:07] <jkpro> Test
[03:08] <mefisto__> I added google linux to firefox searchbar :) http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=google+linux
[03:08] <icarus> cool
[03:09] <jkpro> How is it working?  Any bugs?
[03:10] <maco> korganizer's filters...any way to make them be useful?
[03:10] <jkpro> I'm setting up my system for some network scans.  Anyone setup the NMAPFE for 4.62?  I'm about to try it out and wanted to check first.
[03:12] <jkpro> I haven't tried the korganizer filters - what are you trying to do?
[03:12] <cjae> icarus: I don't see any ooo themes in aptcache though
[03:12] <icarus> it's really annoying, OO is truly ugly
[03:12] <maco> jkpro: i want to tell it "all these tasks i imported from evolution that start with the letters cs...put them in the 'school' category"
[03:13] <maco> cjae: Riddell says "developers wanted"
[03:13] <maco> (OOo v. kde4 was discussed today)
[03:13] <jkpro> Ok.  Let me try it and if I can make it work - I'll pass it on.
[03:13] <maco> my classes all start with cs, so itd be nice if i can have it just shove all my homework into the school category
[03:15] <killermach> which channel should I take my CSS (cascading style sheet) question to?
[03:16] <maco> #css
[03:18] <jkpro> Marco - working on it....
[03:19] <maco> jkpro: i dont see anything that resembles a filter in there. i just see "choose a category" and the trouble is i dont to filter *by* category, i want to filter *into* categories
[03:22] <jkpro> Ok.  I'm about done with the intial setup with evolution.  I had to load it.  Let me setup some sample data for a quick test.  So you have your calendar set so that all your css# are on certain dates with homework done or due right?
[03:26] <cjae> can someone please try ktouch and load a lesson, I have searched around and cannot find the lessons, says it should be in /usr/share/apps/ktouch but I don't have ktouch dir
[03:27] <cjae> kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2
[03:32] <cjae> got it I forgot about kde 4
[03:32] <cjae> #/usr/share/kde4/apps/ktouch
[03:42] <mefisto__> cjae: that's the same as choosing them from training menu, default lectures, no?
[03:48] <Huntz> sshhhh, its to loud in here
[03:50] <mefisto__> kubuntu is working perfectly for everyone
[03:52] <Huntz> awesome
[04:06] <rizvan> hi, is wine 1.1.15 available for jaunty?
[04:08] <cjae> mefisto__: ya I see that now, I though it was language for program not the lessons, because I install klavaro first and screwed up the language, I failed to read the default lectures part
[04:09] <cjae> thanks though
[04:09]  * cjae is taking an add test as we speak
[04:09] <cjae> :$
[04:10] <mefisto__> as in attention deficit disorder?
[04:29] <lancaster> Alguem ?
[04:29] <Luija> hello guys
[04:29] <Luija> i have a problem
[04:29] <lancaster> hello
[04:29] <lancaster> what problem
[04:29] <Luija> i cant hear any volume while playing youtube videos
[04:29] <Luija> or any other videos
[04:29] <Luija> and i have at max volume my laptop
[04:29] <Luija> what can be happening?
[04:30] <lancaster> check ..everthing
[04:30] <Luija> but the song than is played when u turn off the system is still playing
[04:30] <Luija> i am starting to piss of than i cant hear anything in youtube...
[04:31] <Luija> can someone help me?
[04:31] <lancaster> sorry, but ..now I can't help you
[04:32] <lancaster> because I don't now fix your problem
[04:32] <Luija> T_T
[04:33] <Luija> oh my god
[04:33] <Luija> i really need to fix the problem
[04:33] <Luija> mefisto, DaSkreech, r u here?
[04:34] <lancaster> do u know , how i can fix my wireless ?
[04:35] <Luija> it depends
[04:35] <Luija> what wifi card u have?
[04:35] <Luija> atheros?
[04:35] <lancaster> yes
[04:35] <Luija> ok
[04:35] <Luija> open konsole
[04:35] <lancaster> ok
[04:35] <Luija> and write this command
[04:35] <lancaster> show me
[04:36] <Luija> sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:36] <Luija> it will open a text editor
[04:36] <lancaster> command not found
[04:36] <Luija> no way
[04:36] <Luija> maybe u dont have installed...
[04:36] <Luija> mmm one second
[04:37] <msa81> Luija: check volumn in alsamixer
[04:38] <DaSkreech> hi Luija
[04:38] <Luija> hi da
[04:38] <Luija> see
[04:38] <Luija> i have a problem with youtube sound
[04:38] <Luija> it hears extremely low
[04:39] <Luija> and i have volume at max
[04:39] <Luija> and not muted
[04:39] <msa81> Luija: check volumn in alsamixer
[04:39] <Luija> dont know whats happening
[04:39] <Luija> already checked msa and it is at max without muting
[04:39] <msa81> Luija: hmm..
[04:39] <Luija> youtube video volume is also at max
[04:39] <Luija> but it hears extremely low
[04:39] <Luija> BUT
[04:39] <Luija> the song than is played when u turn off the lapop
[04:39] <Luija> laptop*
[04:40] <Luija> i can still hear it
[04:40] <Luija> very high
[04:40] <msa81> Luija: even Master is listed at full?
[04:41] <Luija> okay see
[04:41] <Luija> i cant found the aplication alsamixer
[04:41] <Luija> but there is
[04:41] <Luija> HDA nvidia mixer
[04:41] <Luija> let me put everything at max
[04:42] <Luija> i know see msa
[04:42] <Luija> the problem was with the PCM
[04:43] <msa81> Luija: in alsamixer i have master set half way, and everything else is 100. ah... so you've got it now, great.
[04:43] <Luija> i dont knows  whats that, but i puted it at max and its solved now lol
[04:43] <cjae> mefisto__: yes and scored 63 out 80, and everything over 20 was likely  so I think I may go see someone,I do stuff like missing menus and stuff like that all the time, it is horrible, but thanks anyway
[04:44] <cjae> mefisto__: I know some of them may be biased too but I took a few so....
[04:44] <Luija> okay
[04:44] <Luija> so
[04:44] <Luija> lancaster
[04:44] <Luija> try this command first
[04:44] <Luija> sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[04:44] <Luija> after that sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:44] <Luija> ok?
[04:44] <lancaster> ok
[04:45] <lancaster> wait
[04:46] <lancaster> Ow God
[04:46] <lancaster> again command not found
[04:47] <lancaster> I don't know why
[04:48] <compilerwriter> Does adept or synaptic hand svn stuff already or will I need to get another client?
[04:49] <lancaster> its for me this question ?
[04:50] <lancaster> somebody came from Brazil ..for make more easy fix this problem
[04:50] <lancaster> Ow sorry
[05:04] <mendedtimbo_> is 8.04 no longer lts?
[05:04] <bazhang> !lts
[05:04] <bazhang> !hardy
[05:05] <mendedtimbo_> maintenance updates and security fixes
[05:05] <mendedtimbo_> until October 2009.
[05:05] <mendedtimbo_> is what the kubuntu site said for 8.04.2
[05:06] <v3trae> Trying to install kubuntu 8.10 on a friends Dell XPS m170 laptop, grub cannot seem to autoconfigure and when i do find /boot/grub/stage1 from the grub prompt i get an error. Any ideas?
[05:06] <mefisto__> v3trae: what's the error?
[05:07] <v3trae> mefisto__: let me boot it back up just a sec
[05:08] <v3trae> mefisto__: slowest bios i've ever seen in my life D=
[05:08] <mendedtimbo_> but i thought 8.04 was lts
[05:09] <v3trae> mefisto__: Error 15:  File not found
[05:10] <mefisto__> mendedtimbo_: I think it's because it has kde 3.5 and kde support is moving to kde4, so it's a bit complicated for 8.04
[05:10] <mendedtimbo_> oh so its not really lts then.
[05:11] <mefisto__> I don't think so, not any more
[05:11] <mendedtimbo_> i dont want to go back to gnome:(
[05:11] <v3trae> mefisto__: keep in mind this is directly after the install completes, so it should be there.
[05:12] <mefisto__> but I'm not sure. I know support for kde3 apps is moving to kde4 versions so maybe it depends on what you install. so not really lts, right? how can it be?
[05:13] <mefisto__> v3trae: just 1 disk?
[05:13] <v3trae> mefisto__: yeah.
[05:13] <mefisto__> hmm
[05:14] <v3trae> find /b<tab> comes back with Error 2: Bad file or directory type
[05:15] <v3trae> sure feels like it didn't install doesn't it?
[05:15] <mefisto__> so grub starts, but doesn't find the files
[05:15] <v3trae> mefisto__: the grub config starts, like if you were to just do sudo grub on your box right now, the actual loader doesn't start.
[05:16] <mefisto__> or it doesn't start at all?
[05:17] <snarkster> evening
[05:17] <v3trae> snarkster: heya
[05:18] <mefisto__> v3trae: so you're running grub install from livecd?
[05:18] <v3trae> mefisto__: no, the install completes, the machine reboots and i get the grub> prompt
[05:18] <v3trae> mefisto__: i think the install is just hosed, don't worry about it
[05:19] <v3trae> mefisto__: class is over anyway
[05:19] <v3trae> mefisto__: or rather, almost over.
[05:19] <mefisto__> v3trae: so grub is in MBR but something wrong with partitions
[05:19] <snarkster> Ive got a dell that has an issue.  the install completes but it drops to cli when i boot
[05:20] <snarkster> it has got to be video card, but it has an intel 910
[05:20] <v3trae> mefisto__: thats what it sounds like, when i did an install on my laptop back in the day it did something similar
[05:20] <snarkster> shouldnt be an issue right?
[05:20] <v3trae> snarkster: i haven't used an internal vcard in probably 6 years, so i really have no idea.
[05:21] <snarkster> ah ok
[05:21] <maco> alsamixer is a terminal command
[05:21] <v3trae> mefisto__: don't worry about it man, i don't want to fix it for him anyway, i think he needs to do it himself.
[05:21] <snarkster> oh wait.. sorry thats a different machine. haha this one locks up on desktop startup.. never leaves the splash screen
[05:21] <maco> doh i was scrolled way up i think
[05:21] <v3trae> maco: yeah you were =P
[05:23] <alesan> hey do you have any idea why my laptop's fan is on all the time in KDE4.2, while it turns on only when I do something intensive under gnome?
[05:23] <alesan> I have a thinkpad T61
[05:24] <voglster> kde 4.2 is pretty gfx intense.. pushing the laptop or the video card?
[05:26] <mefisto__> alesan: try turning off compositing ?
[05:26] <alesan> voglster, I have disabled everything I could, no effects, KDE2 style, crystal svg theme
[05:26] <alesan> mefisto__, everything is disabled, I do not what those things on my computer
[05:27] <voglster> alesan, then why run kde 4.2?
[05:27] <voglster> alesan, what else is different?
[05:28] <alesan> voglster, well, I would VERY much like to run KDE3.5 but... kubuntu forced the update to the new version. I then switched to gnome, but my heart is with KDE (that I use since 0.9)
[05:28] <alesan> so today I tried KDE 4.2 again
[05:29] <voglster> you can downgrade the package... nothing is forcing you to upgrade
[05:29] <mefisto__> alesan: what about power management settings/profiles
[05:29] <alesan> voglster, afaik it is not possible to downgrade, it was possible on 8.04 but not 8.10 (and I need 8.10's kernel because it fixes stuff for my thinkpad)
[05:30] <alesan> mefisto__, I can have a look, but I am skeptical...
[05:30] <mefisto__> alesan: does it change when it's on battery or ac power?
[05:31] <voglster> alesan, first google entry on kde 3.5 ubbuntu 8.10
[05:31] <voglster> alesan, http://forum.kde.org/how-get-kde-kubuntu-10-t-11996.html
[05:31] <Luija> ei guys
[05:31] <Luija> can someone explain me why every download u do in firefox is deleted when u turn off the pc, and no saved?
[05:33] <bazhang> Luija, what version of kubuntu
[05:34] <Luija> 8.10
[05:34] <bazhang> Luija, where do you have ff set to download them
[05:34] <Luija> i dont know lol
[05:35] <Luija> i just click save
[05:35] <Luija> i wanted to make another DVD of Kubuntu, and it says it cant open the file because its deleted
[05:35] <bazhang> Luija, then check; also look in dolphin (click desktop) and see if they are there
[05:35] <Luija> ok
[05:35] <mefisto__> Luija: firefox edit menu, preferences, main tab
[05:36] <mefisto__> Luija: make sure it's not set to /tmp
[05:39] <alesan> voglster, if that works, I will be happy again!!!
[05:40] <Luija> mefisto
[05:40] <Luija> is not set to tmp
[05:40] <Luija> is set to desktop
[05:40] <Luija> but then where should i set it?
[05:42] <mefisto__> Luija: look in dolphin in your home directory, inside Desktop folder. are the downloads there?
[05:43] <mefisto__> Luija: desktop or Desktop?
[05:43] <Luija> Desktop
[05:43] <Luija> and now
[05:43] <Luija> no*
[05:43] <Luija> the downloads r no there
[05:46] <mefisto__> Luija: in firefox, go to about:config and in the search box, put in: retention
[05:46] <Luija> so i set the download to Desktop or to other folder?
[05:46] <Luija> oh
[05:46] <Luija> ok
[05:47] <mefisto__> Luija: browser.download.manager.retention should be set to 2
[05:47] <Luija> yes is 2
[05:48] <Luija> oh, now than we r in about config
[05:48] <Luija> what i needed to change
[05:48] <Luija> so the tabs r always show when i open the browser?
[05:48] <Luija> so i dont have to click new tab
[05:48] <Luija> tag*
[05:51] <alesan> voglster, if that works, I will let you know
[05:51] <alesan> and send a donation to that holy guy that made KDE3.5 available for intrepid
[05:52] <alesan> :)
[05:52] <alesan> thank you, bye
[05:52] <mefisto__> Luija: browser.tabs.autoHide    set to  "false"
[05:52] <Luija> thx
[05:54] <mefisto__> Luija: I don't know what's happening to the downloads. maybe try making a new directory in your home dir called downloads, then set download location to that folder
[05:57] <mefisto__> Luija: in firefox prefs, privacy tab, do you have "remember what I've downloaded" ?
[05:58] <Luija> yes, and i already created the download folder, thx :)
[05:59] <mefisto__> Luija: also in privacy tab, check the private data "always clear my private data when I close firefox" is not on
[06:01] <Luija> not on
[06:01] <Luija> it must be on?
[06:02] <mefisto__> no, not on
[06:16] <tweakedeh> Youtube tells me to get the latest flash player, So I follow the link, and download the .deb file and when I go to intsall it, it askes me if I want to reinstall it?
[06:16] <tweakedeh> How would I fix this?
[06:17] <maco> do you have noscript installed?
[06:17] <maco> cuz that'll make youtube think ou lack flash
[06:17] <tweakedeh> I dont know I'll try and get it now.
[06:19] <tweakedeh> maco: Just installed it and did nothing.
[06:20] <allen_> Greetings
[06:20] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: no, the noscript extension will block flash
[06:20] <tweakedeh> oh
[06:20] <tweakedeh> Yea, I never had it.
[06:20] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: and javascript must be on too
[06:21] <ludovic_> hi all
[06:21] <maco> tweakedeh: no no i mean if you have noscript installed, that'll trick youtube into thinking you dont have flash. so if you noscript, i was telling you to disable it
[06:21] <tweakedeh> mefisto__: JS is enabled.
[06:22] <Wargasmic> doesn't matter if js is enabled, noscript will block it
[06:22] <tweakedeh> Oh, I see. well I don't have it (just uninstalled it) and every thing else works....
[06:23] <tweakedeh> I have no flash player what soever.
[06:23] <Wargasmic> search for flash-nonfree
[06:23] <Wargasmic> in adept
[06:23] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: in addressbar, go to about:plugins and make sure you have Shockwave Flash
[06:24] <tweakedeh> application/x-print-unix-nsplugin 	Demo Print Plugin for Unix/Linux    is the only thing I have.
[06:25] <tweakedeh> Wargasmic: looking now..
[06:25] <tweakedeh> Wargasmic No Results.
[06:26] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: flashplugin-nonfree  or   adobe-flashplugin
[06:27] <tweakedeh> mefisto__: No Result for any of them. =S
[06:27] <bazhang> apt-cache search flash ?
[06:27] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: what version kubuntu?
[06:28] <tweakedeh> mefisto__ 8.04
[06:28] <mefisto__> !info adobe-flashplugin
[06:28] <tweakedeh> bazhang: adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[06:28] <tweakedeh> is one of them....
[06:29] <bazhang> tweakedeh, did you install it?
[06:29] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: close adept, then sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[06:29] <tweakedeh> adobe-flashplugin is already the newest version.
[06:29] <bazhang> tweakedeh, this is using firefox or konqueror
[06:29] <tweakedeh> Firefox
[06:30] <mefisto__> tweakedeh: do you have the file /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[06:31] <tweakedeh> mefisto__: no
[06:31] <mefisto__> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so  ?
[06:31] <tweakedeh> nope..
[06:32] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[06:32] <tweakedeh> done.
[06:33] <tweakedeh> re install it?
[06:33] <mefisto__> apt-cache policy adobe-flashplugin
[06:33] <tweakedeh> adobe-flashplugin:
[06:33] <tweakedeh>   Installed: (none)
[06:33] <tweakedeh>   Candidate: (none)
[06:33] <tweakedeh>   Version table:
[06:33] <mefisto__> ok, now this: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <tweakedeh> it's not installed.
[06:34] <tweakedeh> but It's done.
[06:34] <mefisto__> ok, now install adobe-flashplugin
[06:34] <mefisto__> then check for the file  /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[06:35] <tweakedeh> E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[06:35] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get update, then try again
[06:36] <mefisto__> or try the other one, flashplugin-nonfree
[06:36] <tweakedeh> same thing and flashplugin-nonfree is working
[06:37] <tweakedeh> mefisto__: Thanks! it worked.
[06:38] <mefisto__> flash is playing?
[06:41] <tweakedeh> mefisto__: yes youtube is working now
[06:41] <wildbat> how do i make powerbutton show a menu instead of shutting down directly
[06:52] <mefisto__> which powerbutton? your computer's power button or a button in kde?
[07:18] <Luija> ei guys
[07:20] <Luija> there is a accelerator of downloads called downthemall
[07:20] <Luija> there will be a problem if i download the ISO of kubuntu 8.10 with it?
[07:20] <Mamarok> morning
[07:20] <Luija> by
[07:20] <Mamarok> I have a problem with a box which I can't connect to the internet anymore
[07:21] <Mamarok> dhclient seems to search on <IP_ADDRESS> on port 67
[07:21] <Luija> someone knows?
[07:23] <piolinjazz> para los k tienen problemas con el despertador es super facil de usar
[07:23] <piolinjazz>  http://kukuklok.com/
[07:23] <piolinjazz> [04:21] <piolinjazz> no necesita instalacion
[07:42] <darya> hi
[07:43] <darya> i have a problem
[07:45] <Luija> ei guys i have one question
[07:46] <Luija> there is one accelerator of downloads called downloadthemall
[07:46] <Luija> there will be a problem if i download the ISO of Kubuntu with it?
[07:47] <maco> Luija: no, though i dont think it actually speeds up the downloads...just lets you resume
[07:47] <maco> wget -c also lets you resume
[07:47] <Luija> but why u say it dont speeds up?
[07:48] <Luija> it sayed he speeded a 400% more lol
[07:48] <maco> i dont see how it's possible...i mean, if the server's only serving it up at a certain pace...
[07:48] <Luija> so its not worth??? T_T
[07:50] <Luija> its not worth?
[07:54] <Slartibartfast> Luija: just use torrent :-)
[07:55] <Luija> lol i dont like torrent
[07:56] <Luija> is always full of fucking virus and crap
[07:56] <sagarp> how come when i install things like plasmoid-weather, i get errors about libplasma2?
[07:56] <Luija> 90% of the downloads u do in torrent r crap than r things u dont wanted
[07:56] <Slartibartfast> not if you download the offical torrent files
[07:56] <Luija> lol u pwn me
[07:57] <Slartibartfast> ubuntu makes the torrent files from their iso's themself
[07:57] <Luija> but torrent is fast than direct download????
[07:57] <ibuffy> this can NOT BE GOOD :[ http://dpaste.com/463/
[07:58] <Slartibartfast> depends :-) ... at least you always can break of a download and restart ...
[07:59] <Luija> lol
[07:59] <Luija> ok, thx
[07:59]  * ibuffy is afraid to reboot now
[07:59] <Luija> so downloadthem all plugin for firefox 400% of acceleration is pure bullshit?
[07:59] <Luija> acceleration speed*
[08:00] <Slartibartfast> yeah i think so :-)
[08:00] <Luija> LOL i got owned =(
[08:00] <ibuffy> downloadthemall, lulz
[08:00] <Luija> what, u know it?
[08:00] <Luija> is crap?
[08:00] <ibuffy> i used that the first year i got a computer and was windows
[08:00] <ibuffy> yeah, it's terrible
[08:00] <Luija> lolololol
[08:01] <Luija> ok
[08:01] <ibuffy> kget is a legit download manager, but i don't care for that type of software
[08:01] <Luija> i will uninstall tha
[08:01] <Luija> t
[08:01] <Luija> and install again my all in one sidebar
[08:03] <Luija> i love firefox extensions
[08:04] <ibuffy> try ubiquity
[08:04] <Luija> i have all in one side bar, colorful tabs, 3 other than i dont remember names lol
[08:04] <ibuffy> greasemonkey
[08:04] <Luija> and flagfox
[08:04] <Slartibartfast> adblock plus :-)
[08:04] <Luija> it displays a flag of the country a page is from lol
[08:04] <Luija> did u know ubuntu page is from united kingdom? lol
[08:05] <Slartibartfast> :-D ... nice ... will look for that addon :-)
[08:05] <Luija> lol sweet
[08:06] <ibuffy> Slartibartfast: ah yes, and noscript
[08:06] <Slartibartfast> try downloadhelper :-) ... let you download video's from youtube and other videowebsite
[08:06] <ibuffy> these are my 4 most recommended if you aren't a dev
[08:08] <Luija> and for what is ubiquity?
[08:09] <Slartibartfast> Luija: mmm now idea :-) ... has to do with ubuntu ?
[08:09] <Luija> "[03:04] <ibuffy> try ubiquity" lol
[08:10] <ibuffy> http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/ubiquity/
[08:10] <Slartibartfast> can't find on the addon.mozilla website
[08:11] <Luija> noscript is for virus protection or for what?
[08:11] <Luija> is good?
[08:11] <Slartibartfast> aha .. seems an experimental browser addon
[08:11] <Luija> virus protection?
[08:11] <ibuffy> Luija: it's good if you browse pr0n
[08:11] <ibuffy> also..
[08:12] <ibuffy> it keeps unwanted scripts from running in your browser
[08:12] <Luija> nice
[08:12] <Luija> let me download it
[08:12] <Slartibartfast> noscript let you turn of javascript globaly .... and only let it work on websites you want it to work on
[08:12] <ibuffy> it could become a hassle, maybe not though
[08:12] <Luija> but i dowload it or no? lol
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> yeah ... do
[08:13] <Luija> ok :)
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[08:13] <ibuffy> for me it's great when i have 100+ tabs open and one or two pages are attempting to load 15 or so flash apps
[08:13] <Luija> 100+ tabs??!! waow
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> hehehe
[08:13] <ibuffy> info junkie
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> seems
[08:13] <Luija> and for what is adblock plus?
[08:14] <ibuffy> a must
[08:14] <ibuffy> blocks ads
[08:14] <ibuffy> ..very efficiently
[08:14] <Slartibartfast> remove those irritating banners
[08:14] <Luija> sweet
[08:14] <Luija> let me get it
[08:14] <Luija> Adblock plus true'
[08:14] <Slartibartfast> just adblock plus
[08:15] <Luija> ok
[08:15] <Luija> and greasemonkey?
[08:17] <Slartibartfast> grease monkey lets you input extra custoom made javascript which some independent users made to extent the usability of a website
[08:17] <Luija> ei guys, I g2g, thx for u help, byby and good nights
[08:18] <Slartibartfast> Cya Luija
[08:24] <georgevx> j
[08:40] <Fleck> laptop LCD gets dark all the time (after reboot, after screensaver, after console change etc...)
[08:40] <maco> dark? like it dims or like it goes solid black?
[08:44] <Fleck> sorry, i'm back
[08:48] <ibuffy> genii: ever since following http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde ...i've receive these errors that you've helped me with
[08:48] <ibuffy> i haven't had a problem until today
[08:48] <ibuffy> again dependency problems :-|
[08:48] <ibuffy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[08:48] <ibuffy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:55] <ct529> 2 questions on update .... I add the gpgp key for a repository on ppa.launchpad.net, but still apt-get update does not find it .... and why are some pacakges kept back at update time?
[08:55] <sureserver> i
[08:55] <sureserver> HI
[09:24] <ct529> hi! anybody who knows why some pacakges are kept back from update, without an apparent reason?
[09:33] <zimba> hi
[09:34] <zimba> my Kubuntu 8.10 has just updated itself and kde is totally fucked up
[09:35] <zimba> two days ago I activated backports :(
[09:35] <zimba> is there an easy way to come back to a stable version
[09:35] <zimba> ?
[09:38] <maco> by reinstalling
[09:40] <zimba> maco: is the only way?
[09:40] <maco> yes
[09:40] <zimba> you mean from cd?
[09:40] <maco> yes
[09:40] <maco> thats the only supported/easy way
[09:41] <zimba> can I install from the running version?
[09:41] <maco> i mean...you *could* hunt down old versions of all the packages and forcibly install them....
[09:41] <maco> manually
[09:41] <zimba> no no
[09:41] <zimba> I will reinstall everything
[09:41] <maco> right, you asked for easy
[09:41] <zimba> yeah
[09:41] <maco> did you have the 4.2 ppa enabled?
[09:42] <zimba> what?
[09:42] <zimba> kde 4.2 ppa?
[09:42] <zimba> I think so
[09:44] <zimba> maco: ok, I will reinstall from scratch, but is there a way to do it without cd?
[09:47] <maco> zimba: um, from usb drive. and id guess you should stay away from that ppa then
[09:55] <rgl> hello
[09:56] <rgl> I don't quite like the window decorations that come with kubuntu/kde 4.2 is there a way to have something like ubuntu human theme?
[10:00] <slcr> rgl, there are a few themes in the system settings, mainly older looks, and you can download more
[10:01] <rgl> slcr, download from where?
[10:01] <rgl> kde-look.org?   or is there a better way (eg. some kubuntu repo with themes)?
[10:01] <slcr> rgl: i think you can find some on http://kde-look.org/
[10:02] <slcr> i found only backgrounds and such in repos, couldnt find more themes
[10:22] <noren> hi all
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:23] <noren> how can i view the thumbnail preview in the dolphin
[10:23] <jithin1987> Hi anyone using kde 4.2 facing high cpu usage with desktop effects?
[10:25] <kaddi> i'm having issues with my kubuntu: (kde 4.2) plasma just decided to switch all my settings back to default and destroyed the entire configuration i had done
[10:25] <kaddi> this wouldn't be so bad, if i hadn't stored an important phonennumber, on the post-it-widget, which is now empty
[10:26] <kaddi> any chance of recovering that?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: how did you revert back, did you rename ~/.kde to something else?
[10:33] <kaddi> i didn't do anything... till now... i left my pc, came back the screensaver was on
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: you said you switched all your settings back. how did you do this?
[10:33] <kaddi> i tried to log in, everything crashed and it but me back to the "normal" loginpage. When i then logged in, i had the default background, default widgets,
[10:34] <kaddi> i didn't switch them back, they did that on themselves
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: i'd trawl your system logs, see what went on
[10:35] <shadeslayer> kaddi: what version of KDE??
[10:35] <kaddi> 4.2
[10:35] <kaddi> ActionParsnip: which log would be the most promising in this case? where woul you start?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !info ksyslog
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !find syslog
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxLogFiles
[10:37] <kaddi> something like that:
[10:37] <kaddi> Feb 24 11:11:43 pseudomarge kdm[5853]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> yeah you'll need to dig around in logs to see what happened, the config file for the notes may have simply been renamed. I'm not sure where they are kept or if this is the case as I can't stand kwin
[10:41] <kaddi> sadly the notes are kept in the plasma-appletsrc file
[10:41] <kaddi> which is the first place i checked
[10:41] <kaddi> they aren't there anymore
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> is there a similarly named file there
[10:41] <jussi01> does anyone know how to get kmail system tray icon to only display new messages in the inox? (I move unread ones to trash an it shows them... very annoying)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> like plasma-appletsrc~
[10:42] <kaddi> ActionParsnip: no,only the backups i made a couple of weeks ago, when i upgraded to 4.2
[10:42] <jussi01> kaddi: Ive heard similar complaints
[10:42] <slcr> bit nubby question: what are the hotkeys for switching between desktops and how do i change them?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> slcr: do you mean in compiz or regular kde?
[10:43] <kaddi> jussi01 i don't mind to much, i'm using 4.2 which is in the experimental reps and i know, that this kind of stuff will happen... it's not the first time plasma crashed on me.. but i forgot to backup that darn phonenumber
[10:44] <slcr> regular kde
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> slcr: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> slcr: ctrl+alt+left|right
[10:45] <jussi01> kaddi: frustrating
[10:46] <slcr> mm in gnome ActionParsnip, kde is ctrl-f1-f12 it seems
[10:46] <slcr> which is ... hm..  well actually its clever, one hand only
[10:46] <slcr> but its strange :)
[10:47] <slcr> omfg though the alt-f2 in kde, DROOOOOL!!!
[10:47] <ibuffy> ack, please help me: http://dpaste.com/530/
[10:48] <bentob0x> quick question: is it possible to disable Dolphin's horizontal autoscroll feature and if yes, how?
[10:48] <bentob0x> as it is _very_ annoying
[10:48] <slcr> ibuffy: it seems that the miro app is done for KDE 4.2, and you run 4.0?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> slcr: not seen it
[10:49] <ibuffy> slcr: i run 4.2
[10:49] <slcr> ActionParsnip: its... the best function ive seen ever so far, thanks for the link
[10:49] <ibuffy> all the problems occured after using the 'pure kde' crap on the psychocats website
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: sudo apt-get install libxine1-plugins
[10:49] <ibuffy> all the dep problems that is
[10:50] <ibuffy> ActionParsnip: i did that
[10:50] <ibuffy> error
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> slcr: i use fbrun
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: whats the error when you try to install libxine1-plugins
[10:50] <ibuffy> kdebase-runtime: Depends: kde-icons-oxygen (>= 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3 is to be installed
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: are the deb files in the cache on your system?
[10:51] <ibuffy> i dunno
[10:51] <ibuffy> ActionParsnip^
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: ls
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> slcr: here's what i use: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/24/56563086_48a7c8d979_m.jpg
[10:53] <ibuffy> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:53] <slcr> looks to do the same, only the default thing is a bit shinier
[10:53] <ibuffy> is what i'm guessing but i'm not sure which package
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> slcr: thats in fluxbox
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> slcr: i use kde apps but in fluxbox so the desktop is snappier
[10:54] <ibuffy> ActionParsnip: what are we looking for in the archives dir?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> ibuffy: you need to get those deps that are giving you grief forcefully installed
[10:54] <rgl> using system settings | appearance | fonts I can fine-tune the font antialiasing from KDE apps;  in the anti-aliasing combo box there is a "system settings" option though, where do I change the anti-aliasing system setting globally?
[10:56] <slcr> ActionParsnip: ah sweet, well kde 4.2 is alright for me, save for the nvidia drivers messing with the plasmoids
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> slcr: oh i use kde4.2  just not kwin
[10:58] <slcr> ahh just fluxbox window manager?
[10:58] <ibuffy> ActionParsnip: why will it just not download the correct version of the dependency itself?
[10:59] <ibuffy> i've already forced installed libxine1_1.1.15 and that did nothelp
[10:59] <kaddi> argh... it also deleted my identities for kopete X(
[10:59] <ibuffy> these dep problems are really putting a damper on my experience :|
[11:00] <hettar> Anyone using the devel install finding that starting dragon player instantly kills plasma, with and without desktop effects enabled ?
[11:01] <ibuffy> genii: want to help w/ dep problems again? :(
[11:04] <shadeslayer> hey when i press logout on kubuntu,it shuts the laptop off
[11:04] <shadeslayer> any idea what the problem may be??
[11:05] <shadeslayer> *might be??
[11:26] <ct529> does anyone know whether it is possible to have the linux fonts working under windows, like Deja Vu?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ct529: if you can find the files, sure
[11:29] <shadeslayer> how do i start powerdevil from terminal??
[11:29] <shadeslayer> !find power
[11:30] <shadeslayer> !powermanagement-interface
[11:30] <shadeslayer> !info powermanagement-interface
[11:30] <ct529> ActionParsnip: unfortunately I have to develop one project using MS W and I do not like to fonts
[11:31] <ct529> ActionParsnip:I found the files, but not how to install on windows .... :(
[11:31] <elizabeth> good morning all of u guys
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ct529: well if your reciever does not have the font, it wont display right, unless you publish to pdf
[11:32] <ct529> ActionParsnip:receiver?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ct529: copy to %WINDIR%\fonts i elieve, ask in ##windows
[11:32] <ct529> ActionParsnip:thanks!
[11:34] <shadeslayer> !imagebin
[11:35] <elizabeth> i need help from and expert on wireless stuff,the thing is that i have a COMMPAQ PRESARIO SERIES V3000 MODEL V3417LA I HAVE REINSTALLED SEVERAL TIMES KUBUNTU INTREPID AND IT JUST WONT DETECT THE WIRELESS CARD, i have follow somoe wikis but all of them are for wireless card already detected so is there someone who can be so kind on helping me to first get my laptop wireless card detected and then be able to work with it
[11:35] <elizabeth> besuides iam so new o this and something are really hard to understand for me PLEASE ?????, THANKYOU
[11:40] <ct529> ActionParsnip: yes it works! thanks a lot!
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ct529: np man
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah ive compiled my entire system :):)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> this is gonna be so sweet
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: run lspci
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: can you paste the line that identifies your wifi
[11:44] <elizabeth> IT DOESN BUT ILL SHOW
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: hit the capslock key too, lowercase is good
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: just the one line dont paste the whole lot
[11:46] <elizabeth> wich line??
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: the one that says what wireless you have
[11:47] <elizabeth> i told u it wont detect it
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: if you use pastebin you can paste the whole thing there, then give us the address of the paste
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[11:47] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip:  when i press logout the laptop shuts down
[11:47] <shadeslayer> any idea??
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: if its not detected, make sure the lil switch that turns it on is set to on, and that it is enabled in bios
[11:48] <elizabeth> it is on
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=830336
[11:48] <shadeslayer> elizabeth: iwconfig returns what??
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: then i'd try some boot options
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | elizabeth
[11:48] <elizabeth> no wireless  detection
[11:50] <elizabeth> i mean no wireless extension
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: have you tried disabling acpi?
[11:50] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: what did he do,i cant get it
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: bad link, sec
[11:51] <shadeslayer> hehe
[11:52] <elizabeth> dont know how to ActionPasnip
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: maybe shutdown is the only option so it is used: try this http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2387/ubuntu_restore_restart_shut_down_log_out_button/
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions \ elizabeth
[11:54] <shadeslayer> maybe shutdown closes session
[11:54] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | elizabeth
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: read that and it will tell you
[11:54] <bazhang> also try running lspci in konsole elizabeth and check the wireless chipset there
[11:55] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: WTH is that?? lol
[11:55] <elizabeth> as i understood that is for a fres installation isn it???
[11:56] <shadeslayer> anyways ill try the shutdown option
[11:56] <elizabeth> i already say that it wont detect the wireless card
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: no, you can set boot options at any time in the systems life
[11:56] <elizabeth> so lspci is useless
[11:56] <bazhang> elizabeth, tell us the chipset
[11:56] <elizabeth> ok with the live cd Action?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: well if shutdown is the only option then there would be no reason to ask what you wanna do, theres only one choice
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: just my hunch
[11:56] <shadeslayer> you didnt get me
[11:57] <shadeslayer> when i press logout,the notebook shuts down
[11:57] <bazhang> lspci is rarely useless :)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: i know, but in the logout option there is usually restart, logoff, etc yes?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: and shutdown
[11:57] <shadeslayer> yes
[11:58] <shadeslayer> Leave>logout causes the notebook to shutdown
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: so what if there was only shutdown..why would the computer need to ask you,
[11:58] <shadeslayer> oh i get you
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: its like asking a question with one option, its automatically assumed
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: so if you read the gude you can make sure that all that stuff is in order
[11:59] <shadeslayer> yeah
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> this is my guess. i could be wrong buts its worth a look
[11:59] <shadeslayer> lets see
[11:59]  * ActionParsnip remembers eddie izzards cake or death sketch
[12:00] <shadeslayer> ill just install that Mac OS X theme first
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ewww
[12:01] <shadeslayer> really??
[12:01] <shadeslayer> is it that ??
[12:01] <shadeslayer> *bad
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> i never understood that traffic light nonesense for max, min and close
[12:01] <shadeslayer> lol
[12:02] <shadeslayer> traffic lights
[12:02] <shadeslayer> eh too big a download ill leave it
[12:02] <shadeslayer> XD
[12:02] <weasel1> Hello, I installed kde 4.2 from backports andi must say that it is indeed a monumental release. I need help regarding a few issues like 1. powerdevil doesnt seem to be running, only guidance is the manager running 2. after resume from suspend i want the password to be entered to unlock the screen
[12:08] <elizabeth> ok i deactived acpi (i think) but no diference now those this command: suppose to fiorce my wireless card to be detected:
[12:08] <elizabeth> netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
[12:08] <elizabeth>    Force static network config.
[12:10] <bazhang> elizabeth, what chipset
[12:11] <elizabeth> what do u mean  sorry so new on computers and dont understand lot of thing
[12:11] <elizabeth> but i remeber
[12:11] <bazhang> lspci in console
[12:11] <ederico> hello, can anyone please tell me what to do to identify my CPU in Kubuntu 8.10?
[12:12] <elizabeth> when i was installing windows yesterday to c if the wireless car was damage i so somethin when installing the driver
[12:12] <elizabeth> here wait
[12:12] <bazhang> elizabeth, you need to give us the chipset; open konsole and type ----> lspci
[12:12] <elizabeth> BROADCOM 802.11 sp39912.exe
[12:13] <elizabeth> ls pci wont detect the wireles card
[12:13] <bazhang> elizabeth, which broadcom
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> ederico: in a terminal:   lshw | grep -C 5 cpu
[12:14] <bazhang> elizabeth, is this an internal pci wireless card?
[12:14] <elizabeth> internal
[12:15] <ederico> SlimeyPete: Thanks, that worked
[12:15] <elizabeth> COMPAQ PRESARIO SERIES V3000 MODEL V3417LAlaptop
[12:15] <bazhang> lspci  not ls pci will tell the chipset
[12:15] <elizabeth> here is the resutl of lspci:  http://pastebin.com/m12396f7e
[12:15] <bazhang> no spaces between ls and pci
[12:16] <bazhang> !broadcom | elizabeth
[12:16] <elizabeth> i dont know about that Broadcom
[12:17] <elizabeth> i now that when i installdrivers with windows says BROADCOM 802.11 sp.39912.exe
[12:17] <elizabeth> but it doesnt say anthing about bcm43xx
[12:18] <bazhang> elizabeth, and what does lsusb reveal
[12:18] <elizabeth> lets c
[12:20] <elizabeth> here it is:  http://pastebin.com/m5a84064e
[12:21] <bazhang> there does not appear to be wireless on your computer
[12:21] <shadeslayer>  Guest92176: i have kubuntu and GNOME and KDE,whats the problem
[12:22] <elizabeth> exactly
[12:22] <shadeslayer> XD
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Guest92176: i have kubuntu and GNOME and KDE,whats the problem
[12:22] <elizabeth> it wont detect the wireless card
[12:22] <Guest92176> hello, i discovered im not using kde 42 how can i update
[12:22] <elizabeth> like i said yesterday i did install again windows xp to c if it was damaged but its just fine
[12:22] <shadeslayer> Guest92176: you mean youre in konsole??
[12:23] <shadeslayer> as in konsole login??
[12:23] <Guest92176> i opened konqueror go to help and i have kde 41 how can i update to 42 via konsole
[12:23] <shadeslayer> oh that
[12:23] <shadeslayer> !kde4.2
[12:23] <shadeslayer> !kde 4.2
[12:24] <shadeslayer> !kde4
[12:24] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:24] <bazhang> Guest92176, see the topic
[12:24] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2  <--- Guest92176
[12:24] <shadeslayer> XD
[12:25] <Guest92176> how can i upload a print screen to better explain
[12:26] <Guest92176> i have 4.1.4
[12:27] <bazhang> Guest92176, did you read that link?
[12:28] <Guest92176> yes said kde 42 is released
[12:30] <bazhang> Guest92176, no; did you open the link and read the contents of the resulting web page, which contain instructions on how exactly to get it?
[12:35] <Guest92176> im sorry how can i remove a package, im new here, im sorry
[12:35] <bazhang> Guest92176, thought you wanted to get kde 4.2
[12:36] <Guest92176> yes
[12:36] <bazhang> Guest92176, then you need to read the link and follow the instructions
[12:36] <Guest92176> yes i read, but i dont know to remove a package
[12:37] <bazhang> Guest92176, installed via the package manager? the konsole? or some 3rd party download
[12:38] <Guest92176> im so sorry man im new and i dont know how you say
[12:38] <bazhang> Guest92176, what package do you want to remove
[12:39] <Guest92176> # Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install icons to the same locations.
[12:40] <bazhang> !info koffice-data-kde4
[12:42] <robin0800> Guest92176: you may or may not have it installed try sudo aptitude show koffice-data-kde4
[12:46] <gnomefreak> policy may be the output you want show just shows info about the package policy shows installed cadidate ect..
[12:47] <Guest92176> robin0800 http://pastebin.com/d52c4ab0f
[12:48] <weasel1> Hello, I installed kde 4.2 from backports andi must say that it is indeed a monumental release. I need help regarding a few issues like 1. powerdevil doesnt seem to be running, only guidance is the manager running 2. after resume from suspend i want the password to be entered to unlock the screen
[12:49] <Laeborg-lap> how can i update to kde 4.2 ?
[12:49] <bazhang> backports?
[12:49] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 Laeborg-lap
[12:49] <bazhang> !info powerdevil
[12:50] <weasel1> just enable backports form the software sources, then please remember to uninstall all ur existing plasmoids and then upgrade to kde 4.2
[12:50] <Guest92176> robin 0800: did you see my konsole screen?
[12:51] <weasel1> ubottu: Thanks will check that out, it was said that powerdevil is by default used in kde 4.2 thats why.
[12:51] <bazhang> there is a ppa for kde4.2
[12:52] <bazhang> nothing about backports in those instructions
[12:54] <weasel1> bazhang: KDE 4.2 has been moved to the backports, hence it is not needed to ad the PPA repository, just  enalbed the intrepid-backports (unsupported releases), then update, then you can remove the plasmoids that you have already installed and upgrade the system
[12:55] <bazhang> weasel1, so the webpage is outdated? ie the one in the topic?
 Yes it appears so, kde 4.2 was added to the backports fairly recently
[13:00] <alex__> hi everyone ....
[13:00] <alex__> I can't undestrand how works the LAN connection on Kubuntu ...
[13:00] <alex__> someone can help me please '
[13:03] <elizabeth> ok guys i got some instructiosn here on how to do a file and stuff appearently this woud make my wireless card to be recognized i dont know but i also dont know how todo what it says can somebody be so kind on helping me pls????
[13:03] <elizabeth> http://pastebin.com/m7bc9c88e
[13:04] <greil> go and die.
[13:04] <MaGicKangaRoo> o.O
[13:04] <MaGicKangaRoo> how far have you got elizabeth?
[13:05] <elizabeth> download the archive
[13:05] <elizabeth> is a tar archive
[13:06] <MaGicKangaRoo> yes
[13:06] <MaGicKangaRoo> does this how too apply to you?
[13:06] <MaGicKangaRoo> http://jomcode.com/fadhil/?p=59
[13:06] <elizabeth> the page where i got it is :   http://broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[13:07] <MaGicKangaRoo> looks like you unpack it
[13:07] <fireball2> hey all
[13:07] <fireball2> please help
[13:07] <MaGicKangaRoo> tar -xvzf the targ.gz
[13:07] <fireball2> kde 4.1 hates me
[13:07] <MaGicKangaRoo> mkae the src
[13:08] <fireball2> soryy, i'll wait a min
[13:08] <elizabeth> ok i got a compaq presario series v3000 model 3417 and i have reinstalled severaltimes kubuntu intrepid because it wont reconize my wireless card lspci is usless because it wont tell u wich is my wireless card, but i was looking on google and i found and i know this because of windows that my wireless card is a broadcom 802-11 sp39912.exe
[13:08] <MaGicKangaRoo> and then it looks like you remove some modules from the kernel?
[13:08] <MaGicKangaRoo> does that http://jomcode.com/fadhil/?p=59 not walk you throught?
[13:09] <elizabeth> so that webpage is talking about my broadcom thats is why i am tryhing to installing it to c if kubuntu do reconize my wirelees card and get it to work
[13:09] <MaGicKangaRoo> yep, so does that page not walk you though the install?
[13:09] <elizabeth> if a clcik on the download archive it only opne somecarpets
[13:09] <fireball2> my x server settings are foobared on a brand new install of kubuntu for my admin user
[13:10] <MaGicKangaRoo> you dont need to download it again, you alread have the archive
[13:10] <elizabeth> but thats it but then readinf the readme file is talking about creating a directory
[13:10] <fireball2> managed to make a new user, but not with root privilages
[13:10] <elizabeth> and some things i just dont know how to do
[13:10] <MaGicKangaRoo> but you have the archive the tar.gz right?
[13:10] <MaGicKangaRoo> have you upacked it?
[13:10] <elizabeth> yes
[13:11] <wizard__> HELLO THERE
[13:11] <fireball2> please how can i reset kubuntu desktop/xserver for admin user?\
[13:11] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok does it have those 4 directories in it?
[13:11] <elizabeth> thats the problem it doesn give me an option to unpacke it
[13:11] <wizard__> IS THERE ANY ITALIAN GUY HERE?
[13:11] <MaGicKangaRoo> fireball do you mean reset your user settings? you could delete teh .kde or .kde4 directory in your home ?
[13:11] <MaGicKangaRoo> are you doing this in a terminal?
[13:12] <elizabeth> me?
[13:12] <MaGicKangaRoo> yes
[13:12] <elizabeth> no i havent i dont know how
[13:12] <fireball2> teh?
[13:12] <MaGicKangaRoo> do you use gnome or kde?
[13:12] <elizabeth> ok then i open a terminal
[13:12] <MaGicKangaRoo> teh =the
[13:12] <fireball2> :)
[13:12] <MaGicKangaRoo> press alt + f2 and type xterm if gnome and konsole if kde
[13:12] <elizabeth> i think kde is kubuntu intrepid
[13:13] <MaGicKangaRoo> that should bring up a terminal
[13:13] <elizabeth> ok i got the reminal
[13:13] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok do you know how to change to the directory where the tar.gz is?
[13:13] <fireball2> me too
[13:13] <elizabeth> no
[13:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> is it on your desktop or somehwere else?
[13:14] <elizabeth> something like cd?
[13:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> yes
[13:14] <elizabeth> desktop
[13:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> so cd Desktop
[13:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> then do ls *.tar.gz
[13:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> you should see your archive
[13:15] <elizabeth> ok i type cd and then space and then copy the tar file hit enter and appeared me: NOT A DIRECTORY
[13:15] <fireball2> ok, ask a dum q, but what's the delete command
[13:15] <fireball2> ?
[13:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> elizabeth, type cd ~/Desktop
[13:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> that should move you to the desktop direcotry
[13:16] <alex__> I'm trying to figure out with my LAN but it doesn't works ....., with "ifconfig" shows me the setting and there isn't the IP address I put on it .....
[13:16] <elizabeth> ok done
[13:16] <fireball2> rm?
[13:17] <MaGicKangaRoo> delete =  rm yes
[13:17] <alex__> someone knows why !?!
[13:17] <fireball2> rd even?
[13:17] <MaGicKangaRoo> elizabeth, type  ls *.tar.gz
[13:17] <elizabeth> now i suppose to type cd again and then copy the tar file into terminal??
[13:17] <MaGicKangaRoo> no
[13:17] <MaGicKangaRoo> so if you type  ls *.tar.gz do you see the archive you downloaded
[13:18] <MaGicKangaRoo> rm = remove file
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:18] <fireball2> rm -r .kde?
[13:18] <elizabeth> ok i got this:
[13:18] <elizabeth> elizabeth@Elizabeth:~/Desktop$ ls *.tar.gz
[13:18] <elizabeth> hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_10_27_14.tar.gz
[13:18] <elizabeth> elizabeth@Elizabeth:~/Desktop$
[13:19] <MaGicKangaRoo> fire - that will delete all your settings for kde, maybe you need to do .kde4 as well?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> fireball2: that wil delete the .kde folder, i'd suggest you rename to test then delete (f you havent already)
[13:19] <MaGicKangaRoo> but that will get rid of all your settings
[13:19] <elizabeth> and that result is in kinnda red color
[13:19] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok elizabeth to extract the archive
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> fireball2: rename both then test, if its no good you can roll back
[13:20] <MaGicKangaRoo> tar -xvzf hybrid-portsrc-x86_32-v5_10_27_14.tar.gz
[13:20] <elizabeth> finish
[13:21] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok you *should* have a new directory now
[13:21] <MaGicKangaRoo> call somehting similar to hybrid-portsrc
[13:21] <MaGicKangaRoo> something.
[13:21] <MaGicKangaRoo> if you cd into that you should then be ok to follow that tutorial
[13:21] <elizabeth> lets c
[13:21] <diego_> hola a tod@s
[13:21] <bazhang> !es
[13:21] <fireball2> ok, i think i managed to delete it, no sign of .kde4 though? Anyways, I'll have to reboot to find out i think?
[13:21] <MaGicKangaRoo> restart X
[13:22] <MaGicKangaRoo> ctrl alt and backspave
[13:22] <MaGicKangaRoo> save your work first!
[13:22] <fireball2> you make it all seem so simple. . .
[13:22] <MaGicKangaRoo> it always is before it goes wrong :)
[13:22] <fireball2> thanks for your help, wish me luck
[13:22] <fireball2> :)
[13:22] <MaGicKangaRoo> gl
[13:23] <elizabeth> ok MaGic heres what i got:  http://pastebin.com/m2981b3b8
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok, it hasnt been nice and made it into a folder for you
[13:24] <alex__> noone can help me with my Ethernet lan please ?
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> how are you assigining the ip?
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> elizabeth, that guide proably has the info in now for you to do it?
[13:24] <alex__> from the applet I get with Kubuntu as default
[13:25] <elizabeth> me' dont even have a clue about ur wquestion Magic
[13:25] <elizabeth> so it didnt do nothing???
[13:26] <elizabeth> u know magic i do have some things on my desktop
[13:26] <alex__> is the only way I know to do it .....
[13:26] <elizabeth> folders
[13:26] <elizabeth> lib
[13:26] <elizabeth> src
[13:26] <elizabeth> and some sheet Makefile
[13:26] <elizabeth> what do i do with it
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> MaGicKangaRoo: you are brave
[13:28] <pk> Salut
[13:29] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i resize all the desktop icons all at once
[13:29] <shadeslayer> in GNOME
[13:29] <shadeslayer> XD
[13:30] <elizabeth> it says something about untar and if i paste the command on the read instructions on the terminla it says bash: path no such fileordirectory
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/62079-gnome-desktop-icon-size.html
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-change-default-icon-size-in-gnome-257279/
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: those should fix you up. took me 10 seconds with ask.com
[13:32] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: my bad
[13:32] <shadeslayer> i used google
[13:33] <shadeslayer> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/resizing-gnome-icons.-139235/
[13:33] <shadeslayer> GNOME i new to me i keep getting lost
[13:33] <shadeslayer> XD
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> i use both
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> google is not always the answer
[13:34] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:34] <MaGicKangaRoo> hi elizabeth sorry im back
[13:34] <elizabeth> no problem
[13:34] <elizabeth> so i did what u said
[13:34] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok
[13:35] <MaGicKangaRoo> so yuo have the files out of the archive now.
[13:35] <elizabeth> and i got this :  http://pastebin.com/m2981b3b8
[13:35] <MaGicKangaRoo> it looks from your upload that they didnt get put into a folder but have just gone into your desktop which is a bit messy but will work
[13:35] <MaGicKangaRoo> do you know anything about compiling from source or anything?
[13:36] <elizabeth> no
[13:36] <Dr_Willis_CGI> !compile
[13:36] <elizabeth> i got on my desktop three folders
[13:36] <elizabeth> hibryd_wl  lib and src
[13:36] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok well im just going from that tutorial now
[13:37] <elizabeth> and also a kinnda sheet that says Makefile
[13:37] <MaGicKangaRoo> but  you may want to read those community notes first
[13:37] <MaGicKangaRoo> just so you know whats going on?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: isnt there anything between 100 and 66
[13:37] <elizabeth> ok
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: 66 is too small and 100 too big
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: not sure, i dont use gnome, maybe theres a hack, maybe its limited by the icon sets, im not sure
[13:38] <MaGicKangaRoo> alex what happened with the ip?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> well i installed it on top of kubuntu
[13:38] <alex__> i don't know mate ....
[13:38] <shadeslayer> thanks anyways
[13:38] <MaGicKangaRoo> have you tried setting it via terminal?
[13:38] <elizabeth> so i willneed to install that buidl something first right?
[13:38] <MaGicKangaRoo> yes elizabeth
[13:38] <alex__> just doing by the normal way ,it doesn't appeare on the config ...
[13:38] <MaGicKangaRoo> so that you can then build the stuff you downloaded
[13:39] <elizabeth> ok letme do it first
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> alex, try doing it via the cli
[13:39] <alex__> I don't , because I don't know how should I do ..:9
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> oh
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> is it eth0?
[13:39] <alex__> yes ..
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so something like
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[13:39] <MaGicKangaRoo> where <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip and /24 is hte netmask
[13:41] <alex__> ok , so easy ... :)
[13:41] <alex__> noe I check if it's working ..
[13:41] <MaGicKangaRoo> thats only a temproary change thou
[13:41] <MaGicKangaRoo> yes
[13:41] <alex__> yeah , it works ....
[13:41] <MaGicKangaRoo> cool
[13:41] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok to make it permanent
[13:42] <MaGicKangaRoo> sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | MaGicKangaRoo
[13:42] <alex__> yep , and then .... ?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> MaGicKangaRoo: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[13:43] <salim> hello
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> alex__: read that ^
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !hi | salim
[13:43] <salim> I'm new to here
[13:43] <alex__> what should I write on it ?
[13:43] <salim> hello to you sir
[13:43] <MaGicKangaRoo> sorry i havent used paste bin before
[13:43] <MaGicKangaRoo> how do you poste it?
[13:44] <salim> I'm wondering if I can find "ubuntu kung fu" book on a pdf format
[13:44] <alex__> I mean here I have just few row , but nothing abou network , it could be.. ?
[13:44] <MaGicKangaRoo> http://pastebin.com/m2c44ecf1
[13:44] <MaGicKangaRoo> alex that is an example one so if you set that to what you have
[13:44] <MaGicKangaRoo> thanks for the link action
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> btw all apt-building vlc takes forever and a day
[13:45] <MaGicKangaRoo> once its in the interfaces file, you can sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to test it
[13:45] <alex__> ok where I can find an example ....., just to know how to write it  ?
[13:45] <MaGicKangaRoo> when i first started with unix
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> i thought it would be a good idea to build kde from source
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> i share you pain
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> *your
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> alex so you sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces in a terminal
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> or sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces if you want a gui
[13:46] <MaGicKangaRoo> sorry not sure what a gnome editor is
[13:46] <alex__> yes I did
[13:47] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so save it and restart networking to test it?
[13:47] <alex__> wait a second mate ....
[13:47] <alex__> should I write something there , right ?
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so you have opened the interfaces file?
[13:48] <alex__> yep ..
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so an example one is here
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> http://pastebin.com/m2c44ecf1
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> if you change that to your settings
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> action posted this as a more complete guide
[13:48] <MaGicKangaRoo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[13:51] <alex__> ok ,so I know the address I want , but I don't know how to set "network" and "broadcast" because I'm doing an internal LAN
[13:51] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok whats your ip and netmask
[13:51] <alex__> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> Network address         - <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:52] <alex__> I have to put <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[13:52] <alex__> ahh ok ....
[13:52] <alex__> in both ,right ?
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> Broadcast address       - <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:52] <alex__> ok ..
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> if you install sipcalc
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> it does it for you if your unsure
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> sipcalc <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[13:52] <MaGicKangaRoo> well does = works it out
[13:54] <alex__> ok , should be ok ....
[13:54] <alex__> but tell me , any time I need to change my IP I have to change this file ?
[13:55] <MaGicKangaRoo> if the ip is in the same subnet/network as the existing one
[13:55] <MaGicKangaRoo> then you just need to update the i
[13:55] <MaGicKangaRoo> *ip
[13:55] <MaGicKangaRoo> if its more than that you can work out the new ones with sipcalc
[13:55] <alex__> ok , I'll try it ... :)
[13:55] <MaGicKangaRoo> so yes you update that file to update the networking
[13:56] <alex__> that's great ....
[13:56] <alex__> thanks a lot for your help MaGicKangaRoo......
[13:57] <MaGicKangaRoo> no prob
[14:03] <Dr_Willis_CGI> this cgi:irc needs to hide parts and joing. :)
[14:05] <Dr_Willis_CGI> anyone seen a web based irc thats better then mibbit or cgi:irc  - Hospital firewall wont let me irc directly
[14:08] <alex__> ok I ping my Desk, but I can't get files from there ... :O
[14:08] <alex__> should I setup something else to do it ?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis_CGI> yes alex
[14:09] <Dr_Willis_CGI> networked does not mean 'shareing files' :)
[14:09] <alex__> wait a second , maybe I found the problem ..
[14:09] <Dr_Willis_CGI> what os are the 2 machines?
[14:10] <alex__> Kubuntu and Mandriva
[14:10] <Dr_Willis_CGI> 2 linux systems can use samba, nfs, or sshfs
[14:10] <Dr_Willis_CGI> depending on your needs
[14:10] <alex__> I'm using samba....
[14:10] <alex__> because was already setting .....
[14:10] <Dr_Willis_CGI> sshfs is handy for  some quick transfers
[14:11] <Dr_Willis_CGI>  make sure they are in the same workgroup and you got the samba server installed on both  - i guess :)
[14:11] <Dr_Willis_CGI> nfs would be 'faster' if transfering a lot of files.. or wanting to be  a more perment connection
[14:12] <elizabeth> ok Magic
[14:12] <elizabeth> i am at the three stages
[14:12] <alex__> ok , so , I need to intall samba on my Kubuntu ..
[14:12] <elizabeth> done the path before it
[14:13] <Dr_Willis_CGI> samba swerver is NOT installed by default
[14:13] <alex__> I need a client to read the other server , right ?
[14:13] <alex__> and if I want share on this , the server as well ......, is right ?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis_CGI> the file managers work as a client - or they can
[14:13] <MaGicKangaRoo> hi elizabeth
[14:13] <elizabeth> hi
[14:13] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so
[14:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> according to that guide
[14:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> how did the 3 steps go?
[14:14] <elizabeth> i done understand anything on it
[14:14] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok
[14:14] <elizabeth> thats why i havent done anything
[14:15] <alex__> I see on the repository "kdenetwork-filesharing", is the package I need ? and if yes, is the only one ?
[14:15] <MaGicKangaRoo> do you still have the terminal open?
[14:15] <elizabeth> yes
[14:15] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok still on your desktop?
[14:16] <elizabeth> yes i thik u mean this:  elizabeth@Elizabeth:~/Desktop$?
[14:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> yep
[14:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> ok so going through that guide it says to make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`
[14:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> which will create the instructions for building the application/drives
[14:16] <MaGicKangaRoo> *drivers
[14:17] <elizabeth> ok
[14:17] <MaGicKangaRoo> its basically saying change to the first directory and print some info to your screen
[14:19] <manumar> hello
[14:19] <elizabeth> so i type that "make-C......" into terminal right?
[14:19] <manumar> in kubuntu all ports come open really?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis_Love> depends on how ya define open
[14:20] <manumar> how can I open a port
[14:20] <magickang> type that yes
[14:20] <Dr_Willis_Love> None are blocked..  b ut theres no services running on most of them
[14:20] <magickang>  make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd`
[14:20] <manumar> I need open a port
[14:20] <Dr_Willis_Love> there are no firewall rules blocking any ports by default
[14:20] <manumar> ok
[14:20] <Dr_Willis_Love> so they are all 'open' ie: non blocked
[14:21] <Dr_Willis_Love> :!firewall
[14:21] <manumar> ok
[14:21] <Dr_Willis_Love> !firewall
[14:21] <manumar> mmm
[14:21] <manumar> I installed nmap
[14:21] <manumar> and it say to me that 1700 ports are close
[14:21] <Dr_Willis_Love> theres nothing running on them..  so theres no response
[14:22] <manumar> mm
[14:22] <manumar> sorry I dont understand good english
[14:22] <manumar> xD
[14:22] <manumar> mmm
[14:22] <baoji> Hello. Anyone else running Jaunty who's had kde font problems since upgrading?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis_Love> closed is not the same as 'blocked'
[14:23] <manumar> no
[14:23] <manumar> in spanish i have other
[14:23] <manumar> meaning
[14:23] <manumar> well
[14:23] <manumar> xd
[14:23] <manumar> ports arent bloked
[14:23] <manumar> they are closed
[14:23] <manumar> how can I open it?
[14:24] <manumar> it s for a game server
[14:24] <manumar> see here
[14:24] <Dr_Willis_Love> because thers no serviceses running on them
[14:24] <manumar> http://www.gamers.org/tmf/quickstart.html
[14:24] <manumar> I start the server
[14:24] <Dr_Willis_Love> sudo iptables --list      to see what firewall rules exist.. most likely none
[14:24] <manumar> ok
[14:26] <manumar> manu@MaNu-PC-Linux:~$ sudo iptables --list
[14:26] <manumar> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[14:26] <manumar> target     prot opt source               destination
[14:26] <manumar> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[14:26] <manumar> target     prot opt source               destination
[14:26] <manumar> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[14:26] <manumar> target     prot opt source               destination
[14:26] <Dr_Willis_Love> wowl - all blank :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis_Love> no rules... amazing
[14:26] <manumar> xD
[14:26] <manumar> all open?
[14:26] <manumar> or what
[14:27] <manumar> xd
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> they are not  blocked in any way
[14:27] <manumar> any bloked
[14:27] <manumar> ok
[14:27] <manumar> mm
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> no rules  exist
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> there for nothing is being altered in any way by t linux..
[14:27] <manumar> then in nmap why it say to me that only 5 ports are open?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> your ROUTER may be.
[14:27] <manumar> mmm
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> ONLY 5 have services running on them
[14:27] <Dr_Willis_Love> ONLY 5 responded
[14:28] <manumar> see this
[14:28] <manumar> manu@MaNu-PC-Linux:~$ nmap  <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:28] <manumar> Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2009-02-24 15:28 CET
[14:28] <manumar> Interesting ports on 67.Red-83-46-54.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net (<IP_ADDRESS>):
[14:28] <manumar> Not shown: 1711 closed ports
[14:28] <manumar> PORT     STATE    SERVICE
[14:28] <manumar> 21/tcp   open     ftp
[14:28] <manumar> 22/tcp   open     ssh
[14:28] <manumar> 80/tcp   open     http
[14:28] <manumar> 1720/tcp filtered H.323/Q.931
[14:29] <manumar> I start the trackmania server and nothing happen
[14:29] <Dr_Willis_Love> you have some services running it seems
[14:29] <manumar> yes
[14:29] <manumar> :D
[14:29] <Dr_Willis_Love> You do need to run a server as 'root' most likely - depending on theport its using
[14:29] <manumar> the server use this port
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> manumar: try not to flood
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> manumar: are you using a router?
[14:30] <manumar> On your firewall/router, open the server port 2350 and the P2P port 3450 for both UDP and TCP traffic, but not the XMLRPC port 5000.
[14:30] <manumar> yes
[14:30] <manumar> a linksys WRT54-GL
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> manumar: have you port forwarded from the router to the server pc?
[14:30] <Dr_Willis_Love> Your router has a  firewalll
[14:30] <manumar> yes I think
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis_Love: NAT by deault is a firewall
[14:30] <manumar> I want to delete the firewall
[14:31] <manumar> because it dont..
[14:31] <manumar> it isnt good xD
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> manumar: i'd check, otherwise the connections will hit the router and be disgarded
[14:31] <Dr_Willis_Love> :)  linux ha none.. on it by default - so forward the ports  or set the pc to be in the DMZ on the router
[14:31] <manumar> yes, I put the DMZ to this pc
[14:31] <manumar> and it run
[14:31] <manumar> see
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> manumar: put the server on a static ip and forward the port's you will need to read your manual then
[14:32] <manumar> manumar.no-ip.biz
[14:32] <manumar> :D
[14:32] <manumar> can you enter?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> gotta love no ip
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> yeah im in
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> so port 80 is forwarded successfully
[14:33] <manumar> yes
[14:33] <manumar> and ftp too (port 22 or 21
[14:33] <manumar> port 80..
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_Love> i cant ssh in to that ActionParsnip  can you?
[14:33] <manumar> in router I dont do anything with port 80
[14:33] <Dr_Willis_Love> im at the hospital - they got a firewall i think blocking ssh
[14:34] <manumar> Oo
[14:34] <manumar> at the hospital
[14:34] <Dr_Willis_Love> been trying to get to my own pc all day
[14:34] <manumar> what happen to you?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> yeah i get asked for a password
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_Love> nothing... the wife is un surgery
[14:35] <Dr_Willis_Love> so the hospial here has it where i can tssh out at all it seems
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis_Love: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis_Love: ;)
[14:36] <manumar> ssh?
[14:36] <manumar> Oo
[14:36] <manumar> what are you doing?
[14:36] <baoji> Hello. Anyone else running Jaunty who's had kde font problems since upgrading?
[14:36] <manumar> Xd
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | baojijj
[14:36] <bazhang> !jaunty
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> manumar: we cant get ssh connetions as you have a password
[14:37] <baoji> Ag, thanks very much :)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> manumar: but we can be asked for one to show port 22 is port forwarded
[14:37] <manumar> why you can connect with ssh?
[14:37] <Dr_Willis_Love> i cant ssh to it..  this  hosp. has a good firewall
[14:38] <Dr_Willis_Love>  You are the one running the ssh service...
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> manumar: i can connect, just not authenticate
[14:38] <manumar> yeah
[14:38] <manumar> xd
[14:38] <manumar> i have a pasword
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> manumar: you install openssh-server
[14:38] <manumar> yes
[14:38] <Dr_Willis_Love>  and the port is forwarede it seems properly
[14:38] <manumar> yes
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> exactly so we cant get in but we can connect
[14:38] <manumar> it run
[14:39] <manumar> what dont run
[14:39] <manumar> is other
[14:39] <manumar> sorry
[14:39] <Dr_Willis_Love> this irc.cgi is annoying
[14:39] <manumar> if I dont explain correct
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> manumar: well just do what you did for the other ports you are forwarding and it will work
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> manumar: you are clearly capabale
[14:39] <Dr_Willis_Love> we can READ more gthen 3 words per line...
[14:39] <manumar> see this please
[14:40] <manumar> http://www.gamers.org/tmf/quickstart.html
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis_Love: makes them sound out of breath
[14:40] <manumar> i have the problem with that
[14:40] <Dr_Willis_Love> or the game needd to be ran as root.. depending on the port.. check the  games logs perhaps?
[14:40] <manumar> I think that the game dont need to be run as root
[14:41] <Dr_Willis_Love> depends on the port.
[14:41] <Dr_Willis_Love> try it and see?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> manumar: open 2350 3450 an 5000 both UDP and TCP
[14:42] <manumar> in router
[14:42] <manumar> ok
[14:42] <manumar> ill try it
[14:43] <manumar> I have two options
[14:43] <manumar>
[14:43] <manumar> Forwarding a range of ports
[14:43] <manumar> |
[14:43] <manumar> Trigger Port
[14:44] <bazhang> !enter | manumar
[14:44] <manumar> the first no?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis_Love> forward them ALL to the pc? :)
[14:46] <manumar> ok
[14:46] <manumar> the first
[14:46] <manumar> port is
[14:46] <manumar> one?
[14:46] <manumar> xD
[14:46] <manumar> 1 to 20000?
[14:47] <alex__> I'm back , with another question , anyone use a webcam on Kubuntu ?
[14:47] <shadeslayer1> alex__: yeah,me
[14:47] <shadeslayer1> i can use it with pidgin
[14:48] <alex__> great ....
[14:48] <alex__> I'm trying with skype ...
[14:48] <shadeslayer1> and kopete
[14:48] <alex__> but the cam doesn't appear on the list
[14:48] <shadeslayer1> all hail the great ubuntu
[14:48] <shadeslayer1> :P
[14:48] <alex__> I mean, probably I don't have a driver installed
[14:48] <shadeslayer1> ill install skype
[14:49] <shadeslayer1> alex__: maybe #kubuntu
[14:49] <shadeslayer1> XD
[14:49] <shadeslayer1> i thought i was on #defocus
[14:49] <shadeslayer1> XD
[14:50] <alex__> do you mean check on Kubuntu ?
[14:50] <shadeslayer1> alex__: i thought i was on #defocus
[14:50] <alex__> ahh ok .. :D
[14:51] <alex__> so do you which driver I can try to use my cam ?
[14:51] <alex__> ops .... do you know ......
[14:52] <shadeslayer1> alex__: hmm,im still installing skype,one sec
[14:52] <alex__> ahh ok .... I'll be waiting ...
[14:53] <shadeslayer1>  alex__ : do lspci
[14:53] <shadeslayer1> in terminal
[14:53] <shadeslayer1> and look for your webcam
[14:54]  * shadeslayer1 prods alex__
[14:55] <shadeslayer1> you there??
[14:55] <alex__> yep ..
[14:55] <shadeslayer1> tried that command??
[14:55] <alex__> there is not cam on lspci result
[14:56] <shadeslayer1> :O
[14:56] <shadeslayer1> then your camera has not been detected
[14:56] <alex__> probably not ....
[14:56] <alex__> so  can I try something or it's impossible  !?!
[14:56] <shadeslayer1> hmm
[14:57] <shadeslayer1> !drivers
[14:57] <shadeslayer1> !webcam
[14:57] <shadeslayer1> ;) have fun
[14:59] <alex__> ok , I'll check it ....
[14:59] <alex__> thanks mate ...
[15:00]  * shadeslayer1 watches his wifi light blink ooohhhhh
[15:00] <WorthyOfUrAttn> I am able to save changes to my kmenuedit but the entries don't show up - any help would be appreciated.
[15:01] <shadeslayer1> WorthyOfUrAttn: maybe you have to use sudo to save
[15:02] <WorthyOfUrAttn> did that shadeslayer1
[15:02] <shadeslayer1> :(
[15:02] <WorthyOfUrAttn> still no entry shadeslayer1
[15:02] <shadeslayer1> no idea then
[15:02] <shadeslayer1> shadeslayer1??
[15:02] <WorthyOfUrAttn> this has been the problem for the last few upgrades starting with Hardy
[15:04] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:09] <shadeslayer> hey how do i change a splash theme
[15:09] <shadeslayer> !splash
[15:09] <shadeslayer> XD
[15:16] <shadeslayer> alex__: my web cam works
[15:16] <shadeslayer> in skype too that is
[15:17] <alex__> I'm installing easycam2 ,but it takes a lot of time to download it
[15:17] <alex__> so , in skype as well your cam works fine ....
[15:18] <alex__> I checked the list of compatibles cam , but there isn't mine , but mine isa an internal cam
[15:18] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:19] <shadeslayer> avant dock is really goo
[15:19] <shadeslayer> *d
[15:19] <shadeslayer> alex__: me too,but it works
[15:20] <alex__> ok , so I can keep to hope .. :D
[15:20] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:20] <alex__> it's downloading really slow .....
[15:20] <shadeslayer> theres always hope till linux is around
[15:21] <alex__> that's right ....
[15:21] <shadeslayer> brb
[15:21] <shadeslayer> reboot
[15:22] <Ash-Fox> I haven't done this in years - how does one tell Kubuntu to start up in console mode by default (instead of graphical)?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> !splash
[15:26] <shadeslayer> i cant find Splash screen
[15:26] <shadeslayer> found it XD
[15:26] <MartinW|Laptop> Hello
[15:27] <MartinW|Laptop> Somebody knows how to highlight certain nicknames on the IRC-client "Konversation"?
[15:33] <dboehmer> a friend of mine has a laptop with 2nd partition containing winXP
[15:33] <dboehmer> this is fat32
[15:34] <dboehmer> when mounting it with dolphin (HAL) under kde4 it is mounted with wrong charset
[15:34] <dboehmer> we believe mounting it with utf8 would fix that
[15:34] <dboehmer> usb pen drives and his external harddisk are mounted with utf8 and everything is fine
[15:35] <dboehmer> can you tell me why kubuntu will not mount his /dev/sda5 with option utf8?
[15:35] <decembre> hello
[15:36] <decembre> anyone knows how to add an activity in plasma ?
[15:39] <altrortla> ehilà... I need help with smb4k... each time I want to connect to a Shared folder I had to mount it manually... //server/folder IP and Group... I'd like to have them ready starting smb4k.... Haw can I do?
[15:39] <altrortla> how
[15:39] <decembre> altrortla : there is profiles I think ?
[15:39] <decembre> no ?
[15:40] <decembre> I haven't use it since times...
[15:40] <alex__> I need a helpwith my webcam ...., if I cechk in kinfocenter, the USB2 cam is there, but it doesn't appear on "lspci" result
[15:40] <altrortla> decembre: I don't know exactly How... last time i perform changes I've lost sudoers file
[15:40] <decembre> alex : search about hal
[15:40] <decembre> it can help you I think
[15:41] <alex__> in the list result do you mean ?
[15:41] <alex__> or googleing ?
[15:41] <altrortla> decembre: and I can't see profiles in it
[15:41] <altrortla> ???
[15:41] <decembre> alex : google !
[15:42] <decembre> www.google.fr/linux for exemple
[15:42] <decembre> altrortla : sorry, can't help you...
[15:42] <altrortla> dethanks the same
[15:43] <drostie> Would there be any way to find out what's draining my /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail ...? I don't have any critical application problems right now, but I can tell that it's getting drained, and I'd like to know what application's using it.
[15:44] <alex__> I'll check it
[15:45] <NeKit1000> Good evening
[15:46] <stealth-> what would be the command line options to mount a vfat disk like the system does. So All users can write to it. (r+x too)
[15:46] <stealth-> ?
[15:46] <alex__> ok , so now I know what we are talking about ....
[15:47] <alex__> there is an Hal system installed by default on Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:48] <NeKit1000> I have a problem with a problem with Kubuntu. It doesn't see my hard drive partitions. But if I boot in OEM mode, it works.
[15:49] <alex__> ok I reboot a second ...
[15:51] <decembre> stealth : the system doesn't mount it ?
[15:51] <decembre> automatically I mean !
[15:54] <Laeborg> my wlan0 has crashed. I can't connect to any wireless networks anymore.
[15:57] <drostie> You know, I go to all that effort to find an answer for "stealth-", and they leave the room. :-
[15:57] <drostie> :-(
[15:57] <drostie> Laeborg: what happened between working wlan0 and dead wlan0?
[15:59] <Laeborg> not sure. ive tried to update to kde 4.2, but the wireless crashed, so it didn't finished. im trying to upgrade again now, and hope the wireless works when upgrade complete
[16:00] <drostie> KDE 4.2 has a different wireless structure. You can still run NetworkManager+knetworkmanager, but you might have to make it a special part of boot-time startup.
[16:01] <drostie> I don't know why a wireless crash would affect the upgrade, since most package installers download everything before they start installing...
[16:02] <Laeborg> it crashed under downloading
[16:03] <drostie> Ah. So if you  reboot your computer, the installer didn't get around to changing anything, and your wireless should work again?
[16:07] <Laeborg> now my upgrade to kde 4.2 is done, but wireless still not working
[16:08] <shadeslayer> whats the package name for Open office 3.01
[16:08] <shadeslayer> !office
[16:08] <shadeslayer> !openoffice
[16:10] <Zombine> Anyone know how to get autofs to mount a flash drive?  I've got a line in the config file "/home/alex/FlashDrive file:/dev/sda1" but it doesn't appear to work
[16:16] <angelica> hola
[16:16] <fosco__> !hi | angelica
[16:16] <shadeslayer> anybody know how to use usplash??
[16:17] <shadeslayer> i need to install usplash-theme-sunset-human.so
[16:17] <fosco__> shadeslayer, usplash is used by default, please explain
[16:17] <shadeslayer> fosco__: i wish to install the above mentioned file
[16:17] <fosco__> shadeslayer, you can use startupmanager to manage splash images
[16:17] <ka> Hi. I am syncing folders between computers(Kubuntu 8.10) and mobile phones(Nokia E71) But folders with links won't sync correctly. Is there a way to sync folders with links? With links I mean a folder that really is somewhere else but is linked inside another folder(if that really explains anything I am impressed).
[16:17] <shadeslayer> im in GNOME
[16:18] <fosco__> shadeslayer, startupmamanager runs ok in gnome
[16:18] <fosco__> startupmanager*
[16:18] <shadeslayer> its not installed
[16:18] <drostie> shadeslayer: [aptitude search openoffice] ^_^;;
[16:18] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:18] <drostie> oh, nm. the chat was scrolled up.
[16:20] <shadeslayer> apt is locked
[16:20] <shadeslayer> how to unlock it??
[16:20] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: close other package managers
[16:20] <shadeslayer> none running
[16:21] <fosco__> yep, sure one more is running
[16:21] <Tm_T> !aptix | shadeslayer
[16:21] <Tm_T> !aptfix | shadeslayer
[16:21] <paulo_> Guara OS - www.guaraos.weebly.com
[16:21] <paulo_> basead no ubuntu
[16:22] <paulo_> so q com kde4,2
[16:22] <shadeslayer> ok i have grub 2 btw
[16:22] <Tm_T> paulo_: no spamming, thanks
[16:22] <paulo_> Guara OS - www.guaraos.weebly.com
[16:22] <paulo_> Guara OS - www.guaraos.weebly.com
[16:22] <shadeslayer> startupmanager is loaded
[16:22] <paulo_> Guara OS - www.guaraos.weebly.com
[16:22] <fosco__> paulo_, please stop that
[16:22] <paulo_> como mudar a tela do grub?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> haha
[16:22] <dpalacio> JontheEchidna: where was this fix done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesdk/+bug/332652/comments/4 ?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> fosco__: ??
[16:23] <paulo_> quero mudar a tela do grub
[16:23] <paulo_> nao sei como
[16:23] <paulo_> podem me ajudar?
[16:23] <JontheEchidna> dpalacio: KDE fixed it in svn
[16:23] <fosco__> !br | paulo_
[16:24] <shadeslayer> btw if i did sudo apt-get install grub
[16:24] <paulo_> fuck kubuntu users
[16:24] <shadeslayer> *remove
[16:24] <shadeslayer> :O
[16:24] <dpalacio> JontheEchidna: was it kdelibs or just kompare?
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> dpalacio: kompare
[16:24] <shadeslayer> anyways
[16:24] <dpalacio> JontheEchidna: thanks
[16:24] <shadeslayer> if i did sudo apt-get remove grub,then reinstall it will it still work??
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> dpalacio: you're  welcome
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ??
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> dpalacio: here's a link to the patch if you're interested: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=924539
[16:26]  * shadeslayer is frustrated
[16:26] <Tm_T> !patience | shadeslayer
[16:26] <shadeslayer> i know but ive been working on it for 2.5 hours
[16:26] <decembre> hello
[16:26] <shadeslayer> !hi
[16:27] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: that's not long (:
[16:27] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:27] <decembre> does anyone here knows how to use plasma's activities in kde4.2/kubuntu 8.10 ?
[16:27] <shadeslayer> fosco__: what happened??
[16:27] <shadeslayer> s/he lesft me in mid program :(
[16:30]  * shadeslayer wonders what happened
[16:32] <ka> Is there a way to make softlinks in linux behave like shortcuts in windows? In linux softlinks pretend to be where you see them, while the actually reside somewhere else. While in windows you make a short cut and if you click it you get whisped away to the real location...
[16:32] <Laeborg> any ideas how i can get my wireless working again?
[16:32] <evgeniy> privet, narod... mozhete pomo4'? u menia problemmy s kodirovkoi , vizhu russkie bukvy , no kogda pishu russkimi vsem prihodit laja...
[16:33] <Laeborg> crashed after failed downloaded kde 4.2 files
[16:33] <ka> decembre: Yes but it is not very pratical or intuitive.
[16:33] <brewmaster> is there a tree view in konqueror in kde 4.1?
[16:33] <ka> Try to use the cashew up in the right corner...
[16:33] <decembre> ka : in linux, links are transparent
[16:34] <decembre> ka : I would like to do my own tinking !
[16:34] <trappist> ka: ot
[16:34] <decembre> and my desktop is too loaded !
[16:34] <linknet> www.linknnet.unas.cz
[16:34] <trappist> it's very practical - symlinks aren't just for clicking, it's as if the file's really there.
[16:35] <linknet> www.weblinknet.unas.cz
[16:35] <decembre> trappist : yes !
[16:35] <decembre> that's what I would like to mean !
[16:35] <decembre> thanks!
[16:36] <decembre> I use it many times ka !
[16:36] <trappist> decembre: the analog to windows-style shortcuts is the .desktop files
[16:36] <Tm_T> trappist: see invitation (:
[16:36] <ka> Yes but syncing folders between windows and linux becomes a pain when the solve the same issue in two different ways...
[16:37] <fosco__> shadeslayer, startupmanager is easy to use, what's the problem?
[16:37] <trappist> Tm_T: where?
[16:37] <decembre> trappist : it's not for me !
[16:37] <Tm_T> trappist: prolly in your clients mainwindow
[16:37] <ka> I use symlink all day too.
[16:38] <ka> But I need it to work consistently across platforms...
[16:38] <trappist> gotcha
[16:38] <decembre> I tink also that .desktop files are much more desktop icones in windows...
[16:38] <shadeslayer> fosco__: i have grub2
[16:38] <fosco__> not sure how does grub2 works, but startumanager can manage it
[16:38] <decembre> so, nobody has any idea concerning activities in kubuntu ?
[16:38] <ka> So either symlinks in windows or "shortcuts" in linux... But .desktop files seems to solve my problem... thanks trappist
[16:39] <shadeslayer> hmm it wont see my file
[16:39] <ka> decembre. If you pm me you email I can send you a howto...
[16:39] <ka> I haev to eat now.
[16:39] <shadeslayer> i have it on my desktop,but wont see the file
[16:42] <linknet> nnnnnnnnmnm,n,n
[16:42] <linknet> njnn
[16:42] <Tm_T> linknet: please stop
[16:44] <linknet> bnbbb
[16:45] <silentstri> hey anyone there?
[16:45] <fosco__> 325 people
[16:45] <Tm_T> fosco__: - some bots
[16:45] <fosco__> :)
[16:46] <silentstri> foseco_: I meant people who are paying some amount of attention
[16:46] <silentstri> fosco_: I meant people who are paying some amount of attention
[16:46] <fosco__> just type your question and wait
[16:47] <Tm_T> silentstri: don't ask that, it's not needed, instead say what you need and people who are paying attention will try to help
[16:47] <silentstri> Tm_T: eh... srry
[16:48] <silentstri> k, Im trying to learn to install things on dapper.... can anyone explain it?
[16:48] <Tm_T> !install
[16:48] <fosco__> dapper? too old
[16:49] <Tm_T> not that
[16:50] <Tm_T> brrrh
[16:50] <fosco__> !software
[16:50] <Tm_T> !dapper
[16:50] <Tm_T> hmm, dapper is still supported
[16:50] <silentstri> ya, its supported until june, im trying to get the hang of it before the support cuts out
[16:51] <Tm_T> silentstri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[16:52] <silentstri> ty
[16:52] <Tm_T> ubottu: thanks
[16:53] <silentstri> lol
[16:56] <Laeborg> is there anyway to make a system restore to yesterday?
[16:59] <fosco__> Laeborg, no easy way
[16:59] <silentstri> is firefox better the konq?
[16:59] <fosco__> silentstri, they are just different
[16:59] <Tm_T> !best | silentstri
[16:59] <Laeborg> well my wlan0 is crashed. i can find wireless networks, but it times out when i try to connect
[17:00] <silentstri> ok, heres a question then. Can i make flash run on Konq?
[17:01] <Tm_T> silentstri: yes, and it should work
[17:01] <martijn81> silentstri: yes you should be able to do so
[17:01] <RurouniJones> Does anyone have a clue why ssh -D might have stopped working? Now when I use ssh -D 3128 targethost it just makes a normal SSH connecction instead of setting up a local SOCKS proxy
[17:01] <silentstri> ok thanks
[17:02] <silentstri> !install
[17:02] <Laeborg> !wlan
[17:02] <draik_> For anyone using the Calendar widget on their desktop/dashboard, Is there a way to change the start of the week from Monday to Sunday?
[17:02] <Tm_T> draik_: it doesn't follow systemsettings?
[17:03] <draik_> Nope :(
[17:03] <Tm_T> draik_: let me see
[17:03] <draik_> Thanks
[17:04] <Tm_T> draik_: hmm, it does follow here, interesting
[17:04] <draik_> How do I change the one in System Settings so that I can change it back to start on Sunday?
[17:05] <draik_> I'm in Date & Time, but can't seem to change the start of the week to something other than Sunday.
[17:05] <Tm_T> draik_: regional & language in systemsettings should control it
[17:05] <draik_> Oh
[17:06] <Tm_T> draik_: and there, its this "Time & Dates" tab where you can set first day of the week
[17:06] <Tm_T> draik_: for me it gives option to use any day of the week
[17:07] <draik_> I see it now. Even after the changes, the calendar doesn't change. I even removed the widget and added it again.
[17:08] <Jampiter> Hi
[17:09] <martijn81> hi there Jampiter
[17:09] <Jampiter> I have recently added the Kubuntu KDE 4.2 packages to an Ubuntu Intrepid install. However, I set the login screen to GDM during installation. I wish to change this to KDM, how can I perform this?
[17:10] <Jampiter> Hi there martijn81
[17:11] <martijn81> Jampiter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[17:11] <martijn81> i think it was that
[17:11] <martijn81> try iy
[17:11] <martijn81> try it
[17:11] <Jampiter> I'll try that
[17:12] <Jampiter> Ok, that seems to have worked. I'll log out and see. Thanks! :)
[17:14] <martijn81> ok cool
[17:15] <freegoo> hey guys what is this file used for mt86plus??
[17:15] <kaddi> hi :)
[17:15] <Laeborg> i can find my wireless network and i used to could connect to it. but now its times out everytime i try to connect
[17:17] <freegoo> the file is inside "/install/" but whawt is it used for mt86plus??
[17:17] <Laeborg> any ideas what can be wrong ?
[17:18] <fosco__> Laeborg, mostly sure DNS
[17:19] <silentstri> k ciao all
[17:22] <girevikmoto> im moving a partition from one hard disk to another, is there a way to point ktorrent at the new partition location instead of manually having to point every single torrent at the new location?
[17:30] <jussi01> girevikmoto: open ktorrent, setting, configure ktorrent, application, default save location.
[17:41] <ubuntu_> hi
[17:42] <kaddi> !hi|ubuntu_
[17:46] <draik_> Tm_T: I had to reboot and all was well.
[17:47] <draik_> How do I copy text from nano?
[17:47] <shadeslayer> draik_: ctrl+shift+c
[17:47] <shadeslayer> maybe
[17:48] <draik_> shadeslayer: Hey there. How's it going? BTW, I'll give that a try.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> im in GNOME
[17:48] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:48] <draik_> That didn't work
[17:48] <shadeslayer> as of now i have a love-hate relationship
[17:48] <shadeslayer> with it
[17:49] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:49] <shadeslayer> draik_: how about info nano
[17:49] <shadeslayer> thatll give you everything you need
[17:50] <draik_> !info nano
[17:50] <shadeslayer> not here
[17:50] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:50] <shadeslayer> in terminal
[17:50] <draik_> LOL
[17:50] <shadeslayer> ;)
[17:52] <draik_> What is the meta key?
[17:52] <shadeslayer> alt key
[17:52] <draik_> ALT
[17:52] <draik_> :)
[17:52] <shadeslayer> or the esc
[17:52] <draik_> Just read it
[17:52] <shadeslayer> draik_: are you related to draik by a _ ??
[17:54] <draik_> Yes
[17:54] <draik_> How do I paste in CLI?
[17:54] <draik_> CTRL+V doesn't work
[17:54] <draik_> shadeslayer: draik is my desktop, variants are my laptop
[17:55] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:55] <mefisto__> draik_: ctrl-shift-insert
[17:56] <draik_> mefisto__: Thanks. I guess I didn't copy the text using the M-6
[17:57] <draik_> I can't copy text from nano
[17:57] <draik_> M-^ is the command, but it also has M-6
[17:57] <draik_> I tried both and neither work
[17:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:58] <shadeslayer> bad luck then
[17:58] <draik_> seems that way
[17:58] <shadeslayer> memorise the output
[17:58] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:58] <draik_> Ummm... no
[17:59] <shadeslayer> paste it
[17:59] <draik_> CLI?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> to pastebin
[17:59] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:59] <draik_> The GUI keeps freezing on me to do anything.
[17:59] <draik_> I'm hoping this upgrade fixes things
[18:01] <draik_> Is there a way to have the contents of a txt file placed after the 'sudo apt-get install' command?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> maybe you can pipe the output
[18:02] <shadeslayer> i dont know how
[18:03] <draik_> cat file.txt works, but I want it after the command entry, not prior
[18:03] <draik_> Even still, it's not put on it's own line
[18:03] <draik_> I found a way
[18:03] <draik_> :)
[18:03] <shadeslayer> yayy
[18:03] <draik_> I have to manipulate my GUI so that it won't freeze. Such a pain.
[18:04] <draik_> If I place my mouse over Yakuake, it freezes
[18:04] <draik_> I don't have to click on anything, I just need to place it on yakuake and it's frozen
[18:04] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:05] <draik_> :(
[18:05] <draik_> I didn't do anything this time and it froze
[18:05] <draik_> Stupid CLI
[18:05] <draik_> Well, at least the command is there for me to use in CLI on reboot
[18:05] <draik_> *Stupid GUI
[18:06] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:07]  * shadeslayer loves the GUI
[18:07] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:07] <brad_> top shows me that md0_raid5 is using 26 of my cpu, it that normal ?
[18:08] <draik_> brad_: Depends on your CPU. If you have a 1.8GHz, maybe. If 3.xGHz, probably not
[18:08] <shadeslayer> 2.1 Ghz,nVidia 8600MGT,laptop
[18:10] <draik_> 2.00GHz
[18:10] <draik_> On this laptop
[18:10] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:11] <draik_> desktop has 3.2GHz
[18:12] <draik_> If I can't get the upgrades done in the next 15 minutes, then it is a project for tomorrow
[18:14] <vasheel> anyone from mauritius?
[18:26] <yoanis> hi there
[18:26] <salim> hi yoanis
[18:26] <yoanis> i'm running kubuntu intrepid and just upgraded to kde4.2
[18:26] <yoanis> and there's seems to be an issue with kwin
[18:27] <yoanis> i get "the default decoration plugin is corrupt and could not be loaded"
[18:27] <yoanis> i've an nvidia geforge go 7200
[18:27] <yoanis> video card
[18:29] <salim> did you tried to update and/or upgrade ?
[18:29] <yoanis> actually, this happened after upgrade
[18:29] <salim> sometimes the upgrade fixies such issues
[18:30] <salim> I see
[18:30] <mefisto__> yoanis: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:30] <yoanis> nothing happened
[18:30] <mefisto__> yoanis: or try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:31] <yoanis> won't work either
[18:32] <mefisto__> won't work? is there an error?
[18:32] <yoanis> no, no error
[18:32] <yoanis> just got the prompt back
[18:33] <mefisto__> yoanis: ok try: sudo apt-get remove kde-window-manager && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager
[18:36] <yoanis> i'll try that
[18:38] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Does anybody know, will Kubuntu 9.04 include a KDE4 port of K3B?
[18:39] <yoanis> still getting the same error
[18:39] <fosco__> ilembitov, kubuntu 9.04 includes k3b
[18:40] <ilembitov> fosco_: Which version?
[18:42] <fosco__> Version: 1.0.5-3ubuntu2
[18:42] <BluesKaj> K3B is still KDE 3.5 , why fix something that "ain't broke"
[18:42] <BluesKaj> runs fine on 4.2
[18:43] <HappySmileMan> why fix something that "ain't broke" <== To remove the need to install the KDE3 libraries on 9.04
[18:44] <ilembitov> HappySmileMan: that's exactly what I was about to write. Besides, Mandriva people (including Trueg) are working on a new version
[18:45] <HappySmileMan> If it's finished in time it'll probably be included, I've also seen mention of looking for Konversation replacements if it's not ported in time, they intend (or at least had planned to) remove all KDE3 programs from 9.04
[18:46] <mefisto__> HappySmileMan: where did you see that they want to remove kde3? kubuntu.org ?
[18:47] <HappySmileMan> Not sure, it was on a wiki
[18:47] <HappySmileMan> I'll try find it, probably in my history somewhere
[18:47] <mefisto__> yoanis: so kde-window-manager was removed, redownloaded and reinstalled ?
[18:47] <yoanis> mefisto__: yes
[18:48] <yoanis> mefisto__: and still same error
[18:48] <mefisto__> yoanis: kwin --replace
[18:48] <HappySmileMan> mefisto__: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-jaunty-kde-packaging
[18:49] <HappySmileMan> And http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/24443.aspx
[18:49] <mefisto__> thanks HappySmileMan
[18:49] <HappySmileMan> Both mentioned Konversation being removed, Quassel will replace I think
[18:49] <yoanis> i'm pasting output on pastebin
[18:49] <yoanis> will send the link soon
[18:49] <HappySmileMan> Doesn't mention KDE3 libraries being removed, but I thought I saw that as a reason for removing Konversation before
[18:50] <cuznt> Quassel is ok
[18:50] <cuznt> i am using it now
[18:52] <yoanis> mefisto__: http://pastebin.ca/1346052
[18:52] <mefisto__> cuznt: quassel is very similar to konversation, isn't it? but very few settings options
[18:52] <yoanis> that's what i get whenever i try to run kwin
[18:52] <cuznt> yes
[18:52] <cuznt> sets up different
[18:52] <cuznt> like xchat WAS i think
[18:53] <BluesKaj> HappySmileMan , that is bad news cuz quassell doesn't do much for me ..I prefer Konversation's simplicity and versatility
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> konversation is still available from the repos
[18:53] <HappySmileMan> BluesKaj: Well it'll still be available I assume, but not the default
[18:53] <BluesKaj> err quassel
[18:53] <BluesKaj> We can only hope , HappySmileMan
[18:54] <HappySmileMan> It's a popular application, there'll definitely be someone packaging it
[18:54] <Laeborg> lol now im home at my GF's apartment, and here does my wireless works, but didn't worked at home :S
[18:54] <HappySmileMan> I've never used Quassel, might d/l it now to see what it's like
[18:56] <HappySmileMan> I'm not sure what the whole "Quassel IRC is a modern, cross-platform, distributed IRC client, meaning that one (or multiple) client(s) can attach to and detach from a central core" means
[18:56] <HappySmileMan> That mean I could run it on headless box upstairs, and connect through that or something, would be handy for loggin
[18:56] <HappySmileMan> logging*
[18:58] <mefisto__> yoanis: do you get messages about anything being "kept back" when you do an upgrade?
[18:58] <yoanis> yes
[18:58] <yoanis> gwenview
[19:00] <pahan> hi all русско говорящие есть?
[19:00] <mefisto__> yoanis: ok, try removing gwenview. you can install it again after you've got things working properly (I had that gwenview problem too)
[19:01] <Pici> !ru | pahan
[19:02] <mefisto__> yoanis: after removing gwenview, try to update and dist-upgrade everything
[19:02] <yoanis> ko
[19:02] <yoanis> ok
[19:02] <yoanis> let me try
[19:03] <solifugus> I added third party to my sources.. now how can I upgrade kde 4.1.4 to 4.2.x ?
[19:04] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:05] <yoanis> well , it seems like kwin is working now
[19:05] <mefisto__> yoanis: if it's still not working: sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-window-manager && sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager
[19:05] <mefisto__> yoanis: ok great
[19:06] <mefisto__> yoanis: reinstall gwenview now
[19:06] <yoanis> removed this packages:kdm kuser okular kwin-kde4 kde-printer-applet kdepim-strigi-plugins kdegraphics-strigi-plugins ktimetracker libpoppler-qt4-3 systemsettings libspectre1
[19:07] <yoanis> and the installed them again
[19:07] <yoanis> and now kwin is working
[19:07] <yoanis> don't know how that did the trick
[19:07] <yoanis> but it did
[19:08] <mefisto__> yoanis: how did you know to remove those? did you get errors mentioning them?
[19:08] <yoanis> dist-upgrade suggested to remove them
[19:18] <javier> buenas
[19:18] <lovre> im running a kubuntu 8.10 live cd on a laptop, and its asking me for a login username/password, but i dont know what it is. is there any default root password i can login with?
[19:19] <salim> lovre: try ubuntu/ubuntu
[19:21] <jamesjedimaster> lovre> you also can try: ubuntu/<blank>
[19:22] <lovre> none of those are right. seems this is a bug and there is no solution..
[19:24] <mefisto__> root/<blank> ?
[19:25] <lovre> mefisto__: nope. i will try with another cd... thanks for your time.. dont think there is a solution....
[19:25] <mefisto__> livecd isn't supposed to ask for user/pass is it?
[19:26] <Mycroft_> can someone explain me how I can sort mail by date under kmail ?
[19:26] <Mycroft_> I can't see how I should remove the listing by sender name
[19:26] <LogicFan> if i already have ubuntu installed and want to check out KDE 4.2 without all the pre-installed full kubuntu desktop apps, do i install kde and kubuntu-default-settings pkgs?
[19:26] <LogicFan> or just kde pkg
[19:28] <mefisto__> Mycroft_: do you see the date column?
[19:29] <Mycroft_> yup
[19:29] <Mycroft_> clicking on the little 'v' sign doesn't seem to work
[19:29] <Mycroft_> it collapse all and doesn't sort anything :)
[19:30] <mefisto__> clicking the column heading collapses everything?
[19:30] <Mycroft_> mefisto> yep and it doesn't sort anything
[19:31] <Mycroft_> it might be an issue with gmail I don't know
[19:31] <Mycroft_> because the subjet line is in fact the author of the mail
[19:33] <mefisto__> weird. what version kmail?
[19:33] <Mycroft_>  1.11 kde 4.2
[19:33] <Mycroft_> I am not sure I make myself clear
[19:34] <Mycroft_> the subject are ok but all mail are in a single "thread"
[19:34] <Mycroft_> where the thread name is the author
[19:34] <mefisto__> I'm using same, with gmail, but I see subject as subject, not author, and I can sort any column by clicking the headings
[19:34] <Mycroft_> I would like to sort my mail by date and not by author
[19:34] <giarca> Mycroft_: is an option
[19:34] <Mycroft_> ah I  need the headings option in fact
[19:34] <Mycroft_> that's my issue :)
[19:35] <giarca> click on button on left up
[19:35] <giarca> ops
[19:35] <giarca> right up
[19:35] <giarca> Aggragation mode
[19:35] <giarca> ops, no Change Sort button is :P
[19:36] <Mycroft_> ok found it
[19:36] <Mycroft_> thanks I was lost in the settings
[19:36] <Mycroft_> thx giarca & mefisto__
[19:36] <mefisto__> Mycroft_: I see. I have mine set to "classic view" theme (button on far right)
[19:37] <ilembitov> Where do I find Amarok 2 and Koffice 2 for Intrepid?
[19:39] <mefisto__> ilembitov: amarok 2, add this to sources: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main
[19:40] <mefisto__> ilembitov: actually, I think that has koffice 2 as well
[19:40] <ilembitov> Thanks)
[19:41] <ilembitov> And where can I find NM-plasmoid?
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> the koffice packages aren't compatible with KDE 4.2
[19:41] <ilembitov> Still?
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> well, not the ones in jaunty, but the ones in that ppa...
[19:43] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: really? somehow I managed to install koffice 2 apps
[19:43] <novolinux> ciao a tutti
[19:44] <Pici> !it
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> mefisto__: in intrepid with KDE 4.2?
[19:45] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: yes, with that ppa in sources.list
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> you're lucky, there should have been file conflicts unless somebody updated it very recently
[19:46] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: there was a conflict with some icons for one package. I did a dpkg --force-overwrite to get around that
[19:46] <JontheEchidna> that's what I'm talking about
[19:47] <LogicFan> if i've never had KDE installed on ubuntu before and I want to install KDE 4.2, will the PPA repo install all dependencies?  or do I need to install offcial kde pkg first then add PPA repo and upgrade to 4.2?
[19:47] <LogicFan> i hope that made sense :)
[19:47] <fosco__> only ppa repo
[19:48] <fosco__> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:49] <LogicFan> if i dont want the fullblown kubuntu default desktop, is kde pkg + kubuntu-default-settings required?
[19:49] <LogicFan> or just kde-core?
[19:52] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: do you happen to know off the top of your head which package koffice-data-kde4 clashes with?
[19:52] <JontheEchidna> kde-icons-oxygen
[19:52] <Pato> Ola
[19:52] <Pato> alguem me pode ajudar?
[19:53] <Pato> Tenho um problema em configurar a minha placa grafica no kubuntu
[19:53] <Pato> tenho uma Sis Mirage 3 ( sis 672)
[19:53] <Pato> nao consigo alterar a resoluçao para cima de 800x600
[19:53] <Pato> o meu monitor é 1440x900 :S
[19:53] <heinkel_111> !pt