[01:35] <Nilvio> i have installed ati drivers but that say i use mesa drivers what file i need config if i want use that ati drivers ?
[01:36] <ikonia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:36] <ikonia> select ati or radeon depending on what you want
[01:37] <Nilvio> ikonia i have do that but that my computer doesnt use ati drivers
[01:38] <codecaine> how can I get of the flash glitch during install?
[01:38] <DennyCrane> fyrestrtr: got broken when someone put in a recovery disk and knakered the partition table etc before killing execution of the disk. Have fixed the mbr and boot (according to windows) Ironically all this happened because the fella was moving "unmoveable" files so he can put ubuntu on the laptop
[01:38] <ikonia> select the ati drivers
[01:39] <Nilvio> yes i have selected
[01:39] <malice> Could anyone out there point me to a url that will explain how to install lsongs on my ubuntu machine. I am a newbie and I installed everything up to pyxine and I can not get that to install or these pyid3lib, pynjb
[01:39] <Nilvio> but fglrxinfo says you use mesa drivers
[01:39] <carlos_> joing ubuntu-br
[01:39] <ikonia> then its using the driver you have selected
[01:39] <ikonia> malice have you checked the wiki
[01:40] <Nilvio> i have taked ati
[01:40] <Nilvio> but it says
[01:40] <Nilvio> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:40] <Nilvio> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[01:40] <Nilvio> and my games not working
[01:40] <malice> ikonia I will again
[01:40] <malice> I do not think I saw anything
[01:40] <nopx90> hey anyone used DC_GUI_2? is it better or worse than valknut?
[01:41] <devilsadvocate> nopx90 : have you tried ldcpp?
[01:41] <carlos_> which package do you recommend me for configure and monitor my wireless?
[01:41] <jpjacobs> !paste>Nilvio
[01:41] <Nilvio> sry
[01:41] <Nilvio> i only wanna get my games work
[01:41] <nopx90> devilsadvocate, nope... only thing i've tried is valknut which i hate
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> nopx90 : try ldcpp
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> the install instructions are in the ubuntuguide
[01:42] <nopx90> devilsadvocate, ok thanks
[01:42] <fourat> i've installed pdnsd on the gateway server to serv and cache dns queries, and to use the gateway's /etc/hosts file so i can share some domains in my lan, i got a problem that i cant resolve till now, i have defined a domain in the gateway's /etc/hosts file, 'dig'ing it from a client pc: it resolves, pinging, dont resolve: see this: http://pastebin.ca/178580
[01:42] <fdr> can you please recommend me an audio editor for gnome? thanks! :-)
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> carlos_ what wireless chipset you you have?
[01:43] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: 802.11b/g
[01:43] <NET||abuse> hmm, anyone know how i can get quicktime video/h.264 to work??
[01:43] <ArtVandalae> Hi, I want to install a program from edgy (just spim) but it needs libc6 the newest version, how can I install it, so the least amount of packages are pulled down? Or is it dangerous to be playing with libc?
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> carlos : open a terminal
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> type lspci
[01:44] <silent_scream> how can i make .exe programs to open with wine via double click?
[01:44] <lastnode> silent_scream, compile them for win32?
[01:44] <devilsadvocate> carlos : in the output, find your wireless adapter. It is likely to be towards the end
[01:44] <melon> ok - this doesn't make sense.. what am i missing? i've attempted to install flash - using the add/remove thingie.. flash is still not installed.. did i miss a step completely? if so.. any directions would be awesome
[01:45] <fyrestrtr> !flash
[01:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <devilsadvocate> melon : you've installed the flash-player
[01:45] <nopx90> melon, there is a bug in the flash plugin atm
[01:45] <nopx90> not sure if that's what your problem is
[01:45] <melon> it's supposed to be the one firefox uses
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> ok
[01:46] <nopx90> yeah that sounds about right... i'm unable to install it aswell
[01:46] <zaggynl> What's the program 'Wish' ? When I look in Firestarter I see some connections made by it, protocol unknown, port 1863
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> i've had loads of trouble installing flash as well
[01:46] <melon> i'm very wet behind the ears - apologies if my info doesn't tell u what the problem is
[01:46] <nopx90> melon, either downgrade or wait couple of days... should be fixed soon
[01:46] <tempest> using livecd I'm trying to mount a partition (ext3 with ubuntu installed on it) but I get something like 'mount point /media/sda6 not found' when I type 'mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6'. am i doing something wrong
[01:46] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: I found id ->  0000:02:04:0 Ethernet controller Pro/WIreless 2200BG
[01:47] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: I found id ->  0000:02:04:0 Network controller Pro/WIreless 2200BG
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> k
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> one sec
[01:47] <guard952> tempest: sudo mkdir /media/sda6
[01:47] <codecaine> when I do tightviewer in full screen all my other computer doesn't fight on the screen how can I fix this?
[01:47] <myatthu> tempest, you got to create the directory first ... mkdir sda6 or whatever the name you fancy
[01:48] <tempest> oh. guess I just assumed it'd be done in the process
[01:48] <tempest> thank you both
[01:49] <schierbeck> hello
[01:49] <manmadha> can any one tell how lock the cdrom......whith giving no read permissions....can any one tell the process....
[01:49] <devilsadvocate> carlos -
[01:49] <devilsadvocate> its supposed to work out of the boxx
[01:50] <schierbeck> ive got some problems installing ubuntu on my amd64 machine
[01:50] <schierbeck> im trying to install the 32 bit version
[01:50] <malice> Ok, when installing lsongs on my system it stops the install with this: OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Lsongs
[01:50] <schierbeck> but i just get a black screen when the livecd has loaded
[01:50] <carlos_> devilsadvocate: sorry.. didn`t understand
[01:50] <malice> any ideas?
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> carlos : have you tried connecting to a network?
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> it might be working already :)
[01:50] <manmadha> can any one tell how lock the cdrom......whith giving no read permissions....can any one tell the process....
[01:50] <devilsadvocate> make sure your wireless is turned on.. if you have any hardware switch
[01:51] <fyrestrtr> manmadha: you can't write to the cdrom, unless its a blank and you have a writer.
[01:51] <guard952> manmadha: unplug the IDE cable.
[01:51] <melon> lol
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> manmadha - you need to fiddle around with fstab. if you do, make sure you keep a backup safe.. very safe
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> even then i wont recommend it
[01:51] <devilsadvocate> unless you know what you're doing
[01:52] <schierbeck> i could use some help
[01:52] <devilsadvocate> ifconfig
[01:52] <fourat> i've installed pdnsd on the gateway server to serv and cache dns queries, and to use the gateway's /etc/hosts file so i can share some domains in my lan, i got a problem that i cant resolve till now, i have defined a domain in the gateway's /etc/hosts file, 'dig'ing it from a client pc: it resolves, pinging, dont resolve: see this: http://pastebin.ca/178580
[01:52] <devilsadvocate> carlos... u here?
[01:52] <malice> Ok, when installing lsongs on my system it stops the install with this: OSError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Lsongs
[01:53] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, ya....is there another process...because i think modifying fstab is painful process.....
[01:53] <devilsadvocate> schierbeck: i'd love to help, but i havent really used 64 bit much
[01:54] <schierbeck> well, perhaps its just because im using an old monitor
[01:54] <schierbeck> it shows the progress bar, but when it's finished, it goes black
[01:54] <schierbeck> how do i enter text mode?
[01:54] <devilsadvocate> schierbeck : try doing this
[01:55] <schierbeck> kernel boot arg?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> while booting
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> select advanced options
[01:55] <malice> I take it know one knows this problem then
[01:55] <malice> ?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> remove the splash and the quiet kernel args
[01:55] <mads-> Hey, My screen refresh rate is 85 MHz, and I can't change in Screen Resolution program - how do I then change it?
[01:55] <devilsadvocate> malice : try running the command as sudo
[01:56] <malice> ok I will try that
[01:56] <schierbeck> devilsadvocate, thanks, i'll try that.
[01:57] <devilsadvocate> carlos : if you are here, please run ifconfig in the terminal an tell me what your wireless networ is called : it will be eth0 or eth1 or wlan0 or somthing
[01:57] <RichiH> bitch
[01:57] <RichiH> erm
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> wow what just happened?
[01:58] <RichiH> bitch wore b33r doris isfor heh crack feel gold tcp xpg follow bf nofear ice cop solder live DAL et al
[01:58] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, ya....is there another process...because i think modifying fstab is painful process.....
[01:58] <RichiH> can you convince me you are not spambots?
[01:58] <mads-> Hey, My screen refresh rate is 85 MHz, and I can't change in Screen Resolution program - how do I then change it?
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> manmadha : i dont think so
[01:58] <devilsadvocate> mads : what is your current resolution?
[01:58] <C-O-L-T> where is the gnome themes folder in my system?
[01:58] <C-O-L-T> in which directory?
[01:59] <jrib> C-O-L-T: ~/.themes/ or /usr/share/themes/ for system-wide
[01:59] <jpjacobs> C-O-L-T, under.themes i think
[01:59] <jpjacobs> damn spambots
[02:00] <C-O-L-T> jrib: thanks
[02:00] <xinted> man
[02:00] <xinted> who are all these
[02:00] <xinted> so damned
[02:00] <RichiH> well, well, they could not convince me
[02:00] <manmadha> net is fuzzy...
[02:00] <devilsadvocate> what the hell was that?
[02:00] <RichiH> oi alindeman
[02:00] <RichiH> xinted: bots
[02:01] <James__> infected windows machienes
[02:01] <JackONeill> Is there a site for checking what hardware is good/bad with linux?
[02:01] <James__> thats what that is
[02:01] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, i think the servers are changing
[02:01] <xinted> well ye at least now its good for the eyes
[02:01] <manmadha> JackONeill, ya it is better
[02:02] <pere_> What is the command for installing java (so that I can run command line jar-files)?
[02:02] <jrib> !java > pere_
[02:02] <devilsadvocate> jackone : the ubuntuwiki has a tested hardware list somewhere
[02:02] <JackONeill> manmadha, what is better?
[02:02] <JackONeill> Too many people called Jack
[02:02] <manmadha> devilsadvocate, he i just changed the cdroms permissions then it works...
[02:02] <zaggynl_> whoa
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> thats good
[02:03] <manmadha> JackONeill, checking the drivers at login times
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> but does it work every time?
[02:03] <manmadha> yaa
[02:03] <myatthu> pere_, normally i download java from java.sun.com
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> ok
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> nice
[02:03] <manmadha> the root user can only see the contents
[02:03] <devilsadvocate> :)
[02:03] <manmadha> the root user can only see the contents of the cdrom
[02:04] <JackONeill> manmadha? eh!?
[02:05] <_mason> JackONeill: with two L's: I LOVE STARGATE, sorry in advanced for the caps... got every episode from every season hi-def dvd-rips
[02:05] <hikenboot> hello all---I was suggested that ubuntu edgy (6.10) would have germinate-update-metapackage...it does not and it doesnt appear to be available in its apt-sources list (which is exceptionally short with only 4 entries) was the information I was told wrong?
[02:05] <JackONeill> _mason, two L's the best way :P
[02:06] <jrib> hikenboot: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:06] <_mason> watched the entire season atleast 4 times
[02:06] <_mason> grew up on it
[02:06] <hikenboot> thanks jrib
[02:06] <_mason> 'not season, Series!
[02:07] <TealC> JAFFA! Hear me...
[02:07] <TealC> Forgotten what I was going to say now
[02:07] <_mason> Shovaa!
[02:07] <TealC> Telchek nom ra!
[02:07] <idefix_> ccan fastjar hang?
[02:08] <_mason> Tekmatae Master TealC
[02:08] <_mason> 'tekmate
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> !info germinate-update-metapackage
[02:09] <ubotu> Package germinate-update-metapackage does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <elkbuntu> guys, random chatter (non support stuff) belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:09] <fyrestrtr> !info germinate-update
[02:09] <ubotu> Package germinate-update does not exist in any distro I know
[02:09] <Braetak> Hammond of texas: Millions of people will die!
[02:09] <zaggynl> Anyone has an idea what this wish thing is? It shows in Firestarter: Anyone has
[02:09] <zaggynl> http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3492/screenshotfirestarteramd3200lae8.png
[02:09] <Braetak> is linuxhardware.org down!?
[02:10] <_mason>  /love stargate
[02:10] <dr_d> hey guys i've got a huge problem
[02:10] <dr_d> i decided to remove ubuntu until the next version comes out
[02:10] <_mason> JackONeill: Well, Birds of a Feather!
[02:10] <JackONeill> dr_d, try windows :P
[02:10] <_mason> it has to do with .. flocking
[02:11] <dr_d> yeah... i used gparted from live cd to remove my linux partition
[02:11] <dr_d> but now i cant boot because grub is still installed to my master boot record
[02:11] <dr_d> help!!
[02:11] <zaggynl> >
[02:11] <zaggynl> ?
[02:11] <zaggynl> I think Windows XP can change the MBR
[02:11] <JackONeill> _mason, what's the punch line? no fish?
[02:11] <brian__> dr_d fdisk /mbr
[02:11] <zaggynl> or that :P
[02:11] <myatthu> dr_d, you got to boot from windows .. go to rescue mode ... then type fixmbr
[02:11] <JackONeill> fdisk /mbr is your friend
[02:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> whatsahappenin?
[02:12] <dr_d> ok i'm in livecd now i'll give it a try
[02:12] <_mason> JackONeill: Zombies have been done to death!
[02:12] <dr_d> btw just to clarify, i already have winxp installed... just not mbr
[02:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> can anybody give me some help?
[02:12] <_mason> Askaway
[02:12] <JackONeill> _mason, just because those are only being shown in the states doesn't stop me :P
[02:12] <wikijeff> Any way to run a .msi file with wine?
[02:12] <JackONeill> They allegedly performed well on DVD
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> i picked up a toshiba satellite lappy and ubuntu freezes on the install.
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> any suggestions?
[02:13] <dr_d> JackONeill: it says "unable to open /mbr"
[02:13] <_mason> JackONeill: Oop, Youve got me.. I have no idea where thats from!
[02:13] <JackONeill> JackONeill.... "fdisk /mbr" is a DOS command
[02:13] <myatthu> LOL
[02:13] <JackONeill> _mason, same episode
[02:13] <dr_d> oh lol
[02:13] <BlackTiger> please help me getting wlan, tried everything nothing works... see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=262060
[02:13] <jUggERNAUt1980> i ran dmesg to check for errors, and there are no errors.
[02:13] <_mason> yeah
[02:13] <myatthu> dr_d, you got to boot from windows .. go to rescue mode ... then type fixmbr <--- try this ..
[02:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> any advice on what i can do here?
[02:14] <JackONeill> DOS is your friend
[02:14] <JackONeill> 7.10 + PQMagic is bliss
[02:14] <dr_d> ok rescue mode fixmbr... ok will try this thanks guys
[02:15] <JackONeill> so... is linuxhardware.org down?
[02:15] <_mason> JackONeill: So think the farlings will end up helping defeat the ori?  & OMG Fireflys Anara is playing the Orasi! Couldnt have asked for a better cast!
[02:15] <CromagDK> can i make a dvd from a .img file in Gnome Baker ?
[02:16] <JackONeill> _mason, don't watch firefly.... I don't want to see the furlings, gotta leave some things for another spin off... also we need to bring back the Aschen
[02:16] <NET||abuse> nads, i have no idea if anyone said anything to it,,, how do i get support for quicktime, h.264 mov files? xine or mplayer or totem-xine or anything?
[02:16] <NET||abuse> or is there a codec pack i can download?
[02:16] <JackONeill> _mason, SG-1 should concentrate on the mild annoyances of the Trust/Lucian Alliance and just 'majoritively' kill off the Ori... then end SG-1
[02:16] <_mason> JackONeill: stargate command still isnt even sure of their coninued existance
[02:17] <_mason> 'continued
[02:17] <JackONeill> exactly... think 'Stargate Earth'..... unified international SG-C
[02:17] <JackONeill> More diplomacy and intergalactic babylon 5 and ds9 style series
[02:18] <_mason> Ahh, See i never watched Babylon 5 & etc
[02:18] <stefg> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <mabus> So, anybody know how I can use elinks with xterm-256color so it's in color, but not screw up everything else?
[02:18] <_mason> Ah, Alas
[02:18] <_mason> JackONeill join off-topic ?
[02:18] <JackONeill> I pm'ed you
[02:18] <_mason> Ahh yes :P
[02:19] <koreano> ciao ragazzi
[02:19] <melon> perhaps an extremely stupid Q.. but all the same.. any idea where my mozilla folder might be?
[02:19] <JackONeill> Were gone now... happy?
[02:19] <Noxville> hello all...
[02:19] <Cyberai> Hey all, I just got a new monitor, an Acer 19" widescreen model that does 1440x900 rez. But when I try to use that resolution I get dark, wierd color. My video card is a radeon 9200. I just checked ATI's page on it and 1440x900 isn't a supported resolution. Is there anything I can do in tuning my xorg.conf to fix this or updating a driver? Or do I need to bite the bullet and buy a new video card?
[02:20] <Noxville> have you got the ati drivers
[02:20] <Noxville> ??
[02:20] <myatthu> melon, there is one in  ~/.mozilla
[02:20] <Cyberai> yeah, i do
[02:20] <melon> lol - thanks
[02:20] <Davo_Dinkum> Cyberai: Did you power cycle your PC?
[02:21] <ponsfrilus> hi all... some1 can tell me how to have a channel list?
[02:21] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:21] <Cyberai> Davo_Dinkum, yes
[02:21] <stefg> Cyberai: i have the exact same display working nicely with a nvidia fx 5200... it requires a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get the 1440x900 as default res, i experienced some strange flickering when changing resolutions on the fly
[02:21] <myatthu> Noxville, the command is /list
[02:22] <Cyberai> ah, wonder if that will work with my ati.....
[02:22] <myatthu> but it seems the load is too heavy ... i can't see it
[02:22] <Davo_Dinkum> Cyberai: OK, just checking if you restarted X.
[02:22] <Noxville> i don't need a chan-list myatthu
[02:22] <NET||abuse> koreano, we're not girls..
[02:22] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:22] <Noxville> can any1 tell me how to bridge 2 network cards together... i need to make a firewall
[02:22] <myatthu> eh ah ...
[02:22] <koreano> we we
[02:23] <koreano> sono un uomo
[02:23] <myatthu> !kr
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <myatthu> sweet
[02:23] <myatthu> oh that question was asked by ponsfrilus ...
[02:24] <ponsfrilus> yes thanks
[02:24] <myatthu> lol
[02:24] <myatthu> my apologies to Noxville
[02:24] <M_Fatih> i want to downgrade to firefox 1.5.* i don't want to firefox 2.0beta, because it crashing in flash pages..
[02:24] <koreano> grazie
[02:24] <ponsfrilus> flash player 8 is NOT for linux :-( wait for 9
[02:25] <gnomefreak> M_Fatih: firefox 2.0 isnt in dapper
[02:25] <M_Fatih> gnomefreak, im in edgy
[02:25] <myatthu> i wonder how you get 2.0 beta
[02:25] <lostinc> anyone know of an alternative calendar to evolution?
[02:25] <M_Fatih> sorry i'm going ubuntu+1
[02:25] <gnomefreak> M_Fatih: your in the wrong channel than
[02:25] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:25] <koreano> flash player for x86
[02:25] <M_Fatih> :)
[02:25] <Noxville> myatthu, can u help me.. i need to bridge 2 network cards and run them thorugh iptables to filter... how do i do it..
[02:25] <gnomefreak> lostinc: thunderbird 1.5* has a calendar plugin iirc
[02:25] <myatthu> no idea dude ... i am networking noob ...
[02:26] <myatthu> :<
[02:26] <stefg> Noxville: you might find a look at firestarter useful
[02:26] <stefg> !info firestarter
[02:26] <Noxville> ANY1 who is not a networking n00b???
[02:26] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[02:26] <Noxville> i need to set up a firewall, not manage one
[02:27] <stefg> Noxville: don't argue, just look & learn :-)
[02:27] <secleinteer> hi, the update for the flash plugin caused an error in it
[02:27] <melon> hmm.. i don't have permissions because i'm not root
[02:27] <secleinteer> does anyone know how i can switch back to the old version?
[02:27] <mixelogj> has anyone compiled <IP_ADDRESS> on a sata hdd? Specifically on a thinkpad t43
[02:27] <Noxville> !google firestarter
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google firestarter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <secleinteer> !flashplugin
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <gandalfcome> i see your talking aboput the update of the flash plugin: my synaptic wont install it. aptitude is also not coping with the flash plugin. anyone got a solution. thanks in advance
[02:28] <Noxville> !info linux defender
[02:28] <ubotu> linux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:28] <mixelogj> mkinitrd returns that module sd_mod and sg which are needed for sata are not found. any ideas?
[02:29] <stefg> !info initramfs
[02:29] <ubotu> Package initramfs does not exist in any distro I know
[02:30] <stefg> mixelogj: ubuntu uses initramfs-tools, not mkinitrd... (tho it might be symlinked)
[02:30] <mixelogj> do you have the syntax of the command to generate initrd then? the howto only had mkinitrd
[02:31] <melon> flash fixed!
[02:31] <melon> score.. thanks people :|
[02:31] <stefg> man initramfs-tools :-)
[02:31] <secleinteer> how did you fix flash?
[02:32] <mixelogj> thought so :)
[02:32] <melon> hold up - grabbing the link now
[02:33] <melon> the install package links to: http://macromedia.mplug.org/
[02:33] <melon> i downloaded the latest - 'n followed the basic instructions in the readme
[02:33] <melon> 'n here i was thinking it was going to be a challenge
[02:34] <melon> "run installer in terminal"
[02:37] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here have any experience installing ubuntu on a toshiba sattelite?
[02:37] <lostinc> how do you check a md5 checksum on here?
[02:38] <ponsfrilus> woot?
[02:39] <jrib> lostinc: md5sum file
[02:39] <lostinc> yes
[02:39] <minimec> Hi folks. Can anyone tell me, why the realplay 10 Software is not in the PLF dapper repository, but only in the breezy repository?
[02:39] <jrib> lostinc: right, that's the command.  Just run it in a terminal
[02:39] <tempest> I'm trying to sort out grub (using livecd) so I can boot into my Ubuntu install. when I type 'root (sd0,5)' it tells me 'error while parsing number'. Can anyone help?
[02:39] <capashen> bonjour a tous, petite question, la nouvelle testing integre-t-elle XGL ?
[02:39] <jrib> !fr
[02:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:39] <capashen> sorry bad chanel
[02:40] <minimec> capashen: Hmm.. je ne sais pas, mais si tu rajoute les bonnes sources oui ;)
[02:41] <mike-e> i have a zip file with multiple pieces of archive in it, how can i decompress it
[02:42] <jrib> mike-e: I'm not sure but I think you just unzip the first one.  This works for rar on the command line anyway
[02:42] <ubunter> hi. i have a problem. i mounted windows partition to mnt/win but i can`t enter because of "acced denied"
[02:42] <mike-e> yeah i tried it..
[02:43] <stefg> !mount
[02:43] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:43] <minimec> mike-e: sudo apt-get install zip unzip ; then open your favorite 'zip'-software (ark, file-roller)
[02:43] <myatthu> ubunter, did you mount it as root ?
[02:44] <ubunter> myatthu - no. just tell me how to log as root, i don`t see it anywhere
[02:44] <ubunter> when i type root and my pass it doesn`t work
[02:44] <tempest> does grub recognise sda6 as a hdx5?
[02:44] <myatthu> you type root ?
[02:44] <ubunter> in login screen
[02:44] <myatthu> log as root ? you mean log in as root ?
[02:44] <jrib> mike-e: man unzip, see the BUGS section.  There is a note there that might help
[02:44] <myatthu> oh no .. ubuntu has no root user ...
[02:44] <myatthu> there is but disabled
[02:45] <myatthu> you can't log in as root user ... but you can always sudo
[02:45] <stefg> ubunter: if it's ntfs, it's readonly by default, in case of fat32 you need the right mount-options in /etc/fstab... and forget about root, ubuntu does not work this way... see !root
[02:45] <ubunter> i used: mkdir /mnt/win
[02:45] <peija-kas> u can also enable root login
[02:45] <mike-e> lame
[02:45] <stefg> ubunter: the proper place would be /media/windows
[02:46] <peija-kas> "sudo passwd" sets root user passwros, after which it is in use, right?
[02:46] <stefg> !root
[02:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:46] <tempest> I'm trying to sort out grub (using livecd) so I can boot into my Ubuntu install. when I type 'root (sd0,5)' it tells me 'error while parsing number'. does grub not like the 's'? ideas?
[02:47] <stefg> !grub
[02:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:47] <myatthu> tempest, if i am not wrong grub has its own way of naming the drives ...
[02:47] <lxuser1> just an quick question ;) i'm about to install ubuntu trhough knoppix and was about to start with the debootstrap, but i don't know what debootstrap to take :( there are 2 options i'm thinking about ubuntu3dapper and ubuntu4
[02:47] <Noxville> !freak
[02:47] <tempest> it does
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Noxville> !gedit
[02:47] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[02:48] <mlunzena> Hi!
[02:48] <ubunter> can i type: sudo mkdir /media/windows then
[02:48] <ubunter> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /media/windows ? (sda5 is partition i`m interested in)
[02:48] <mlunzena> I have got a problem concerning UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1
[02:49] <stefg> ubunter: that looks reasonable, but be aware: No way to safely write to ntfs in linux yet!
[02:49] <stefg> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:49] <mlunzena> I have an ISO-8859-1 encoded file which contains some -characters
[02:49] <Cyberai> ubunter, that should work, I don't see why not, as long as the NTFS kernel module is loaded
[02:49] <mlunzena> if I grep for them in my console, I do not get them...
[02:49] <mlunzena> What can I do?
[02:49] <Cyberai> Ubugtu, but yeah, writing is still beta
[02:50] <ubunter> stefg - but copying from ntfs to linux is durex?
[02:50] <Cyberai> mlunzena, can you paste the exact command your issuing? I bet your not escaping properly
[02:50] <tempest> does anyone know how grub would name a hard disk partition called sda6
[02:50] <mlunzena> I typed "grep '' filename.txt"
[02:50] <stefg> ubunter: yes reading ntfs works (and isn't dangerous, obviously)
[02:50] <tempest> (sd0,5) doesn't work unless I'm doing something else wrong
[02:51] <Cyberai> mlunzena, try "grep '\' filename.txt"
[02:51] <codecaine> is there a program for linux like swish?
[02:51] <lxuser1> noone able to help me with my debootstrap problem?
[02:51] <codecaine> flash
[02:51] <kryptoz> Hi
[02:51] <mlunzena> Cybera, that does not work.
[02:51] <peija-kas> http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710  here is also a howto for NTFS read/write using the new ntfs 3g driver
[02:51] <stefg> tempest: you are aware that grub starts counting at 0 (zero) ? sda5 is sd4 in grub-speak
[02:51] <ubunter> stefg - permission denied :/
[02:52] <mlunzena> The  that I type is an UTF-8 encoded character of 3 bytes or so..
[02:52] <mlunzena> but in the file this char is only one byte long.
[02:52] <tempest> yep stefg
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> i'm trying to mount my old windows xp partition (fat32), and it gives me the following error...
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> error: could not execute pmount
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> why is that?
[02:53] <CromagDK> ORI0N-1: how do you mount it ?
[02:53] <CromagDK> via file manager ?
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> in computer
[02:53] <tempest> stefg, I have a feeling it might rename sda6 to something like (hdx,y) (note the h). any idea if thats correct?
[02:53] <Cyberai> mlunzena, what program created this file?
[02:53] <ORI0N-1> it shows, but it won't mount
[02:53] <stefg> ubunter: use mount /dev/hd(foo,bar) -o nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /media/windows
[02:54] <mlunzena> I got it from a subversion repository, so it has to remain in ISO-8859-1 encoding - unfortunately...
[02:54] <CromagDK> !ntfs > ORI0N-1
[02:54] <ORI0N-1> thanks
[02:54] <CromagDK> np
[02:55] <stefg> tempest: no idea, you could paste sudo fdisk -l to pastebin and let me have a look
[02:55] <Cyberai> mlunzena, sorry, im not sure how to deal with that
[02:55] <tempest> stefg, I can't get on the net in the wireless livecd :/ ubuntu freezes whenever I set it up
[02:55] <tempest> so I'm on windows atm
[02:56] <ben> hey can anyone help me with installing and playing world of warcraft on ubuntu (latest version, amd64 version)
[02:56] <ORI0N-1> what's windows atm?
[02:56] <mlunzena> Cyberai, thanks anyway
[02:56] <tempest> er. if that was confusing i meant it freezes if I set up the wireless network
[02:56] <Arcainus> ben, try and use cedega :)
[02:56] <theCore> mlunzena, are you on Dapper
[02:56] <ben> tried that
[02:56] <Arcainus> i got it working before
[02:56] <ubunter> stefg: how to dismnout that previous first?
[02:56] <theCore> mlunzena, I got a quick & dirty fix if so
[02:56] <ubunter> dismount doesn`t work
[02:56] <Arcainus> ben, it not working?
[02:56] <mlunzena> theCore, nope on edgy, but on dapper, it was the same
[02:57] <stefg> ubunter: sudo umount /media/windows
[02:57] <PuGz> hey guys. i am using ubuntu edgy. I have 5 .avi movie files. I want to make a video dvd. Any good programs to do this?
[02:57] <ben> its that i cant install the vid card drivers ... or at least dont think i can and heard that wine is better for wow
[02:57] <theCore> mlunzena, if you were on Dapper, you could have used Shift-Ctrl A7 to enter the character
[02:58] <adsuck> Hello everyone, I am having a little trouble finding a package indicated in a howto for having an Ubuntu desktop function as a client for an AD server (w2k3)
[02:58] <stefg> !repos
[02:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:58] <ubunter> stefg: works. someday i will be just like you
[02:58] <mlunzena> theCore, on edgy it's SHIFT+CTRL+u
[02:58] <Cyberai> adsuck, what package?
[02:58] <adsuck> The package in question is krb5-config and the clin for it is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91510
[02:59] <theCore> mlunzena, oh, thanks for that one
[02:59] <adsuck> clin == link*
[02:59] <JackONeill> function? function?   FUNCTION!?
[02:59] <theCore> mlunzena,
[02:59] <stefg> !info krb5-config
[02:59] <mlunzena> heh
[02:59] <ubotu> krb5-config: Configuration files for Kerberos Version 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 68 kB
[02:59] <stefg> adsuck: so you'll need universe enabled
[02:59] <adsuck> JackONeill: function as in identify, be able to share and such.
[02:59] <Cyberai> ok adsuck, why don't you just download it and install it with dpkg?
[02:59] <adsuck> I'd swear I have universe AND multiverse enabled :~/
[03:00] <stefg> adsuck: and apt-get update after that :-) ?
[03:00] <theCore> mlunzena,
[03:00] <PuGz> any programs to convert video files to a dvd iso?
[03:00] <ubunter> and more question - how to associate mp3s etc. to VLC?
[03:00] <adsuck> ofc
[03:00] <ORI0N-1> !fuse
[03:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:00] <amee2k> hi all
[03:01] <gonniff> hi!
[03:01] <theCore> mlunzena, I just of a very dirty way to make it work
[03:01] <gonniff> can someone tell me how to accept ssh connections in ubuntu?
[03:01] <theCore> I thought*
[03:01] <stefg> ubunter: just like in 'that other OS'... right click -> properties -> open with :-)
[03:01] <amee2k> which package contains the man pages for freeglut?
[03:01] <mlunzena> theCore, by typing the right ISO-8859-1 encoding?
[03:01] <adsuck> Alright, I am being just silly... I could've sworn I had universe. Anyhow thanks all.
[03:02] <amee2k> (hint: its not freeglut3-dev)
[03:02] <ORI0N-1> what windows games are compatible with ubuntu?
[03:02] <theCore> mlunzena, grep "$(echo  | iconv -f utf-8 -t iso8859-1)" yourfile.txt
[03:02] <mlunzena> theCore, that would work :-)
[03:03] <myatthu> ORI0N-1, none .... unless you use wine ..then some ...
[03:03] <stefg> !games
[03:03] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:04] <ORI0N-1> are there any decent games at least?
[03:04] <ORI0N-1> !games
[03:04] <Noxville> !ubuntu games
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu games - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <myatthu> actually i like puzle bubble ... and mario brothers clone ....
[03:04] <Noxville> !games
[03:04] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:04] <botxj> !pornography
[03:04] <Noxville> dddddddd
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pornography - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Noxville> !sex
[03:04] <stefg> !botabuse
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[03:04] <myatthu> ...
[03:05] <botxj> lol
[03:05] <Schamane> /exit
[03:05] <botxj> dont want to angry the ops
[03:06] <ajmitch> botxj: too late.
[03:06] <jUggERNAUt1980> anybody here have any experience installing ubuntu on a toshiba sattelite?
[03:06] <botxj> uh oh o.O
[03:06] <botxj> O_O
[03:07] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: should be a piece of cake
[03:07] <peija-kas> http://www.linux-laptop.net/  linux on laptops compatibility
[03:07] <myatthu> jUggERNAUt1980, i did .... damn old satellite ... p3 ... yes it was fine :P
[03:07] <jUggERNAUt1980> dmesg said only two very minor errors, but it freezes on step two(location)
[03:08] <Noxville> jesus christ, ubuntu take forever to install
[03:08] <botxj> the ONLY laptop i ever want now is a Sony UX vaio
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[03:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: what do you mean b 'step 2'?
[03:08] <jUggERNAUt1980> i thought that maybe i would have to set the vid ram from 64 to 32, but there's no place in the bios to change the setting.
[03:08] <botxj> !christian
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about christian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> when i load the livecd then run install, it goes through 6 steps
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> step 1 is language
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> step 2 is location
[03:09] <Noxville> f#ck
[03:09] <Noxville> !kaffir
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: Dosent take that long on decent hardware, and the install cd only needs to be run once... There is a lot of compression of the programs to fit as much as possible onto the cd.
[03:09] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: You have 256 MB in that box, haven't you?
[03:09] <Noxville> no
[03:09] <jUggERNAUt1980> yessa!
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm pretty sure the vidram is shared
[03:10] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: what graphic chip is it? i810?
[03:10] <Noxville> hey, can you help me bridge 2 network cards so that i can make an ubuntu firewall
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Did you have the cd do its self test for errors, sorry if I came into the conversation late...
[03:10] <jUggERNAUt1980> hmmm....i'm not sure what the chipset is, but it's the ati m200 vid adapter.
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> did the cd self test, no errors.
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> k thanks
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> did a memtest and that came up clean, too.
[03:11] <Noxville> ye
[03:11] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: hmmm.... that should do it with the stock ati-driver
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Any usb devices plugged in?
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> nothin plugged in.
[03:11] <jUggERNAUt1980> should i turn the wifi off?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Cant hurt to try that
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Just waking up here, I may have better answers after my first cup of coffee
[03:12] <jUggERNAUt1980> i'm thinkin there may be an issue with the cdrom, but i can't really see how that would affect the install at this point, especially since it loaded.
[03:13] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: to get you right: the Live-CD won't  start X, right?
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: I have seen one other instance of the install failing on step two trying to zoom into the map and select the location
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> stefg:  the livecd loads and i works as far as i can tell, but freezes on step 2 when i run install.
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> jack_sparrow:  do you know the solution from that other instance?
[03:14] <Born_In_Xixax-> have plenty of ram?
[03:14] <jUggERNAUt1980> is there perhaps a text only install?
[03:15] <koudelka> anyone here that has used easyubuntu?
[03:15] <jUggERNAUt1980> where can i get the alternate-install-cd?
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> yes, use the alternate cd
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Not at the moment, but I thought it had something to do with a usb but it may have been his wirelss like you mentioned
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> same place as the livecd probably
[03:15] <SillyZ> gmornin
[03:15] <ikonia> how often is the ubuntu nvidia componentns updated
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> i had the livecd hang at various points on a machine with 128MB ram
[03:15] <jUggERNAUt1980> ubuntu.com then?
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> test install worked fine
[03:15] <Born_In_Xixax-> *text
[03:16] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: yup, that's called 'alternate'... and seriously: give xubuntu a try. I have an oldish Compaq Armada M700, and xubuntu is just perfect for it
[03:16] <Born_In_Xixax-> is this a low ram machine?
[03:16] <jUggERNAUt1980> advertised 256mb ram, but it registers 190 due to shared video ram
[03:16] <Born_In_Xixax-> mm
[03:16] <stefg> xubuntu! xubuntu! :-)
[03:16] <lupine_85> you need 192 for the live CD ;)
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> xubuntu
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> ah!  damnit!
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> that's probably the whole issue then!
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> i installed gnome ubuntu on 128mb ram machine, using text install
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> works just fine, though i removed some gnome desktop and startup stuff to help
[03:17] <jUggERNAUt1980> do i have to burn a different cd with the text install, or can i do that with my livecd?
[03:17] <Born_In_Xixax-> trashcan, autoupdate, etc
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: Can you reduce shared video ram
[03:18] <Born_In_Xixax-> that's a good idea
[03:18] <Born_In_Xixax-> might get you over the hump of the livecd just for installing
[03:18] <jUggERNAUt1980> i looked in the bios, but there isn't any option for specifying the amount of video ram like there is on my compaq lappy.
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jUggERNAUt1980: That isnt going to give you high end video anyhow
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:18] <Noxville> can any1 help me bridge 2 network cards through iptables
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[03:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:19] <jUggERNAUt1980> the ati m200, you mean
[03:19] <stefg> toshibas don't have a bios setup... they require a _win_ -app to configure the bios-settings :-(
[03:19] <silent_scream> how can i open .exe files with wine by double clicking the file? when i double click the file it doesn't open! I have configured wine
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> damnit!  that's poopy.  o.O  it's a phoenix bios
[03:20] <Noxville> clear
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: You come into the channel, you swear, you play with the bot and you repeat.... then you wonder why no one wants to help you
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's still reading the cd.  been like 15 min since i selected english, the screen hasn't changed.
[03:20] <Born_In_Xixax-> alternate cd text install is what i always download now anyway, since i have no real need for a live cd
[03:20] <jUggERNAUt1980> you have an address?
[03:20] <Born_In_Xixax-> and xubuntu will probably be better overall on low ram machine
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> where i can download it, i mean
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> ya juggernaut, it's the low ram
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> did the same exact thing for me
[03:21] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: broken CD or broken (dirty) CD-Drive?
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> it'll read for hours
[03:21] <Noxville> FFS- i swear, i play with the bot and 1 repeat because for over an hour ive been asking for some help that should be easy for you ppl
[03:21] <Born_In_Xixax-> it never did finish
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> crap!  :D  that's exactly what it's doing!!
[03:21] <botxj> i'd like to associate the OS, Xubuntu with the rapper, Xibit
[03:21] <Cyberai> silent_scream, right click on the file and choose properties. in command, put a "wine" in front of the command
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> oh!  it changed to the other!
[03:21] <jUggERNAUt1980> now it's opening the where are you screen
[03:22] <stefg> Noxville: you will keep asking until you finally decide to do waht i said... Get firestarter, or die ignoring good advice :-)
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> i doubt it'll work.  :(  need more ram.
[03:22] <Born_In_Xixax-> it will seriously probably be faster to download the alternate cd and burn it at this point, but good luck :)
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> i figured it was a ram problem,
[03:22] <[-Haza-Lappy2-] > just a quick question. how do i go about installing ubuntu with the ide dma disabled?
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks xixax!!!
[03:22] <jUggERNAUt1980> thanks everybody!!
[03:23] <Noxville> !firestarter
[03:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:23] <stefg> Ahhhh...
[03:23] <Noxville> but can firestarter bridge connections is what im asking stefg
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !shorewall
[03:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:24] <stefg> yes, i said that before
[03:24] <botxj> are the firewall thingies part of the standard linux apps, or are they programs the individual distro people create their own versions of?
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> i had switched my shared vid ram on my compaq from 32 to 64 before and had a similar issue when installing ubuntu
[03:24] <stefg> !iptables
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> but when i turned it back down to 32, the install went through beautifully.
[03:24] <Noxville> !iptables
[03:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:24] <jUggERNAUt1980> no option on the toshiba for that.
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: SOmething like this...   http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> y'all know how the wifi is with the tosh satellite>
[03:25] <jUggERNAUt1980> ?
[03:25] <Noxville> why thank you... that wasn't hard.. your help is appreciated
[03:25] <botxj> that dont answer mah question people
[03:26] <JackONeill> ?
[03:26] <stefg> botxj: iptables is a kernel thing, so that's common to all linuxen... just the frontend to manage iptables might differ. Ubuntu has firestarter, Suse has yast e.g.
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: You are welcome
[03:27] <botxj> thank you stefg, exactly the answer i was looking for
[03:27] <ubunter> how to make shortcuts on the xfce desktop?
[03:27] <antiPosix> when I log into ubuntu, what file starts my Window Manager.  I have no .xsession or .xinitrc in my home dir, so I assume its in /etc somewhere
[03:28] <russ> how do i mount a second hard drive....???....
[03:28] <stefg> !xubuntu
[03:28] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to connect my laptop to a beamer. Is the function to shut down the laptop screen and use the external video port standard in use in Ubuntu?
[03:28] <antiPosix> a beamer?  youmean a car?
[03:28] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: what is the format on that second hard drive?
[03:28] <SillyZ> mount - t filesystemtype /dev/hdX ( X is a, b, c whatever)  1 , 2, 3 - partitin number  /mnt/somedir
[03:29] <SillyZ> hda would be the first drive on the primary chain, B would be the second drive on the primary chain
[03:29] <Noxville> whats [if there is one]  the root password default
[03:29] <antiPosix> Noxville: there is none
[03:29] <SillyZ> same goes for C and D  only they are on the secondary chain
[03:29] <stefg> there's no root-pw... use sudo -s if you need a root shell
[03:29] <M_A_K> I am unable to write fiels to or delete files from my ipod.  I checked the permissions, I am listed as owner and the folder I wish to delete from is owned by me and I can rwx .
[03:30] <KenSentMe> antiPosix: something like that, what do you call the device that shows video on a large screen?
[03:30] <antiPosix> Noxville: sudo passwd root
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: I would like to suggest you not do that and that you use sudo
[03:31] <pettern> is there a hardware recognizion script for ubuntu. something like kudzu
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Noxville: or gksudo for gnome gui apps or kdesu for kde gui apps
[03:31] <stefg> !info discover
[03:31] <ubotu> discover: hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-2.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 290 kB, installed size 720 kB
[03:31] <Noxville> thnks
[03:31] <daurnimator> oh, btw, how do you start an app from terminal, and have that terminal free again
[03:31] <daurnimator> (just start it, don't run it)
[03:31] <pettern> ty
[03:32] <stefg> daurnimator: ??? if you start a program it will run, no way to avoid that :-)
[03:32] <daurnimator> well - how can i start an app, and have the terminal free again
[03:32] <rambo3> add &
[03:32] <daurnimator> where?
[03:32] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........
[03:32] <rambo3> firefox &
[03:32] <russ> i put a drive in that has windows on it as a slave....i don't need windows, i just need to be able to access the other files....it says it can't mount, drive is not removable....
[03:32] <Born_In_Xixax> if you add '&' to the end, it will background the task, and you can continue to use the terminal
[03:32] <daurnimator> (eg, gedit)
[03:33] <rambo3> gedit &
[03:33] <gpettit> Hi Flannel
[03:33] <daurnimator> so, gedit becomes gedit&?
[03:33] <daurnimator> oh, with space
[03:33] <daurnimator> thx
[03:33] <Born_In_Xixax> if you close the terminal, the app will die though
[03:33] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........???
[03:33] <jUggERNAUt1980> could someone pass me a link to where i can download the alternative-install cd for ubuntu?
[03:33] <stefg> !download
[03:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions   reap the part about editing /etc/pmount.allow
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> read
[03:34] <gpettit> Is there a way to just have a system that runs a kernel and ubuntu-minimal?
[03:34] <stefg> jUggERNAUt1980: remember alternate! and xubuntu ! :-)
[03:34] <ubunter> do You know better firewall than Firestarter? i`m looking for something like zonealarm for microsoft os
[03:34] <cwc> hi all... im trying to improve my video performance (im getting 120fps in glxgears). how can i find out what video card is present in my laptop ?
[03:34] <jUggERNAUt1980> ah!  xubuntu?
[03:34] <KenSentMe> I'm trying to connect my laptop to a projector. Is the function to shut down the laptop screen and use the external video port standard in use in Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Born_In_Xixax> xfce window manager instead of gnome
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: The firewall is built into the kernel... firestarter is just an iptable manager
[03:34] <manmadha> can any one give the links to download debian dvd .........???
[03:35] <Born_In_Xixax> much lighter on the resources
[03:35] <manmadha> !debian download
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debian download - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <KenSentMe> manmadha: go to #debian channel
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: Unless you specifically are trying to open up a port, you dont need to even think about it much.. FYI...  I prefer guarddog since it shows programs and things more like zonealarm.  It does not need to run each time, only when you make changes
[03:36] <gpettit> I tried the server installation, but it is still too large.  I want a small installation that boots quickly but still has the apt-get functionality.  Any suggestions
[03:37] <rambo3> ask ubotu about iptables
[03:37] <Lam_> !iptables
[03:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[03:37] <gpettit> I don't need any X stuff
[03:37] <ubunter> stefg: no? ZA is not a fwall? O_o
[03:37] <botxj> ubotu is gawd
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is gawd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <lupine_85> gpettit: how small?
[03:37] <jim80104> root
[03:38] <M_A_K> Anybody know why my ipod is now mounting as read only all of a sudden?
[03:38] <tuna> what was the command one could use to fing out what drivers ae being run at the time?
[03:38] <lupine_85> lsmod ?
[03:38] <tuna> thanks
[03:38] <gpettit> lupine_85: 50 to 60 MB would be nice; however size is less important than boot time
[03:38] <Ramunas> hello, is there some kind of program to deal with nokia's smartphones with ubuntu? Like sync contacts and stuff
[03:38] <jpjacobs> gpettit, try featherliux , or dsl or debbootstrap your own ubuntu
[03:38] <lupine_85> gpettit: not a chance in Ubuntu. debootstrap is 120MB
[03:38] <stefg> M_A_K: check dmesg for 'file system panic'-messages...
[03:38] <lupine_85> Look at http://www.aspisos.org/
[03:38] <jim80104> I have a need to log in as root for something that I need to do.... Can anyone tell me how to do so?
[03:38] <cwc> hi all... how can i find out what hardware video card is present in my laptop
[03:38] <lupine_85> I have a 16MB, fully-functional linux system using that
[03:39] <jpjacobs> gpetit, dsl is only 50M but it's one big hack
[03:39] <M_A_K> stefg : ok, thanks I will check
[03:39] <lupine_85> no apt-get, but that's not really an issue TBH
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[03:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:39] <Noxville> i've got a ADSL modem on a network, how do i tell my ubuntu system to see and use the adsl service
[03:39] <rambo3> bussybox ?
[03:39] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow is it safe to not to turn on the firestarter every time i`m going net?
[03:39] <stefg> !info pppoeconf
[03:39] <ubotu> pppoeconf: configures PPPoE/ADSL connections. In component main, is standard. Version 1.8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 19 kB, installed size 308 kB
[03:39] <lupine_85> rambo3: yep :)
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: yes it is safe
[03:40] <jim80104> I know all about sudo.... problem is, I need to actually be logged in as root, or this particular install will damage my profile.
[03:40] <lupine_85> it's all buildroot-based, though, so you've got plenty of choice of apps - including real bash, if you want
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: What ports are you trying to open or close?
[03:40] <ubunter> my utorrent can`t connect his port (imo) becuase of the firestarter
[03:40] <pettern> got a new controller and disk today. its sil3112/3512 and should work fine with ubuntu. i tried with discover, and it seems to find it, but it is not visible in any of the partition managers...
[03:40] <lupine_85> jim80104: sounds like a crap program, but sudo passwd (give it a passowrD). Then su will work normally
[03:40] <pettern> any suggestions?
[03:41] <jbroome> jim80104: sudo -s to root, then passwd to set a root password.  you can login as root then
[03:41] <lupine_85> that's longwinded ;)
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntulog: try shields up here to test how open your machine is without using a manager..  http://www.grc.com/intro.htm
[03:41] <stefg> pettern: raid?
[03:41] <gfxstyler> hi
[03:41] <jim80104> It's actually the replacement for Firefox and Thunderbird from Mozilla... I am guessing it's not crap :-)
[03:41] <lupine_85> install it into your ~ ?
[03:41] <gfxstyler> i fooled a friend (who is a linux noob) and told him to do "rm -rf /*" on his vroot server
[03:42] <lupine_85> e.g. /home/jim/opt/mozilla
[03:42] <gfxstyler> is there a way to restore it without waiting 2 days for the service personell to do it?
[03:42] <gpettit> Thanks all for the suggestions, I will look into them
[03:42] <M_A_K> stefg : ok, i get TONS of lockd : failed to monitor <IP_ADDRESS>  messages.  That is a server in our room (file server).
[03:42] <leo__> hola
[03:42] <lupine_85> you can do that without being root at all
[03:42] <Ramunas> gfxstyler: you hax0r :D
[03:42] <lupine_85> gfxstyler: not really ;)
[03:42] <gfxstyler> Ramunas, i hate him, thats why i did it
[03:42] <pettern> stefg: no
[03:43] <gfxstyler> okay then i wont bother anymore
[03:43] <lupine_85> if the system still works, ext2undelete might do it... but it's blank...
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: Not cool
[03:43] <Noxville> stefg, only one computer connects to the internet, the others connect through it
[03:43] <stefg> M_A_K: but that has nothing to do with your ipod... i suspect that the filesystem on the iPod might be corrupt
[03:43] <Noxville> can pppoeconfig handle this
[03:43] <gfxstyler> nope, i guess he gotta wait a few days
[03:43] <Ramunas> gfxstyler: you should have made him create an ssh server, and sell it to somebody ;)
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> how do you install icons ?
[03:44] <Noxville> stefg, only one computer connects to the internet, the others connect through it
 can pppoeconfig handle this
[03:44] <lupine_85> Noxville: as long as the linux computer has 'net access, enable IP forwarding on it and you're (just about) done
[03:44] <M_A_K> It is used to move files back and forth from home to work.  I use windows at home, linux at work.  Can I repair the filesystem?
[03:44] <gfxstyler> i told him that rm removes stuff before, so i didnt really thought that he is actually *that* stupid
[03:44] <stefg> Noxville: that's the whole reason of existance for pppoeconf... read first, then _think_, then ask a question :-)
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: go to gnome-look.org  get an icon theme, drop the tar onto the open theme manager
[03:44] <pettern> stefg: btw. i have a 3112 controller already
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> oh ok ty Jack_Sparrow
[03:45] <stefg> pettern: so lspci sees the controller... have you modprobe'd the right kernel-module?
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: http://kearone.deviantart.com/gallery/?order=9
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: is my personal favorite icon set...
[03:45] <zaggynl> uaagh
[03:45] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow will Gurddog work under xfce?
[03:45] <cwc> hi all... how can i find out what hardware video card is present in my laptop?
[03:46] <zaggynl> I can't start synaptic anymore
[03:46] <kling0n> getting loads of API errors when trying to use fgl_glxgears under dapper drake
[03:46] <kling0n> any suggestions?
[03:46] <surface> zaggynl:  why?
[03:46] <kling0n> xorg is loaded with fglrx diver
[03:46] <danfg> why is my ubuntu constantly resetting my DNS settings?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: I have only used gnome and kde  so I cant answer
[03:46] <james296> how can I completely remove an iten from the Applications menu? because I completely removed dvd::rip but the item for it is still in Applications
[03:46] <stefg> cwc: lspci
[03:46] <zaggynl> surface, I'll try via the CLI to get some data
[03:46] <lmarin> linux
[03:46] <pettern> stefg:0000:01:06.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3512 [SATALink/SATARaid]  Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)
[03:46] <surface> danfg:  u use dhcp, some router did tat
[03:46] <pettern> stefg: so yes
[03:47] <danfg> surface: my router was actually turned off
[03:47] <gfxstyler> james296, go to /usr/share/applications, and delete dvdrip.desktop  (look how the entry is called)
[03:47] <gfxstyler> james296, or use a menu editor
[03:47] <surface> zaggynl:  actually, apt-get and apt-cache is faster
[03:47] <zaggynl> surface, true
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: gconf-editor  might do what you want.. dont know where in there though
[03:47] <stefg> pettern: so lsmod says there's something with 'sil...' loaded?
[03:47] <pettern> stefg, yes
[03:47] <surface> danfg:  u goes direct line?
[03:47] <gfxstyler> Jack_Sparrow, does gconf allow menu editing?
[03:48] <cwc> stefg, thanks :)   my video card is ati radeon agp 2x... and my xorg.conf also says the same thing... still in glxgears im getting only 120fps... can you please point me to some documentation on how to get this to work fine?
[03:48] <ubunter> the firewall choosness is very poor on linux i must say
[03:48] <vk> How can i start <SUDO PPPOECONF> In Edgy Eft?
[03:48] <james296> I cant delete it it wont allow me...
[03:48] <gfxstyler> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <danfg> surface: will this annoyance go away if i disable dhcp? it's a modem/router, this morning i forgot to turn it on, my settings were reset anyway
[03:48] <james296> the Move to Trash menu is disabled...
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gfxstyler: I thought it would except the help ones
[03:48] <stefg> !ati
[03:48] <BlackTiger> can somebody help me with installing wlan (AM1772)???
[03:48] <jake1> good morning everyone
[03:48] <surface> danfg:  if possible make it static ip and define ur own dns.
[03:49] <BlackTiger> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1526129 for more information
[03:49] <gfxstyler> james296, you have to do that as superuser, type: sudo rm /usr/share/applications/dvdrip.desktop
[03:49] <surface> danfg:  i face this problem when i online at my fren 's house.
[03:49] <spidfire> were must i start when i want to work with linux (ubuntu) ??
[03:49] <gfxstyler> james296, be careful with removing stuff as superuser, though
[03:49] <gfxstyler> lol
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: is that an ntfs format?
[03:49] <danfg> surface: yes, i use a static ip. my dns settings keeps getting reset though every time i reboot
[03:50] <stefg> spidfire: get a Live-CD and boot that :-)
[03:50] <spidfire> :P
[03:50] <danfg> brb
[03:50] <james296> no its a desktop configuration file...
[03:50] <spidfire> im workin on ubuntu  now :P
[03:50] <surface> danfg:  by right, it shouldn't
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> james296: sorry.....
[03:50] <spidfire> but how can i learn to work with it
[03:50] <gfxstyler> james296, do you use gnome?
[03:50] <spidfire> ??
[03:50] <danfg> i agree
[03:50] <surface> spidfire:  learn what?
[03:50] <gfxstyler> spidfire, i'd advise learning-by-doing or browsing ubuntuforums.org
[03:50] <spidfire> to wrok it
[03:51] <spidfire> ok
[03:51] <spidfire> thx
[03:51] <pettern> stefg, no suggestions?
thanks....
[03:51] <olafura> Does anybody know if the boot support for xfs has been dropped on powerpc in edgy?
[03:51] <ubunter> who`s the boss
[03:51] <surface> danfg, ur resolve.conf is nameserver somehtin or search something
[03:51] <james296> yes
[03:51] <danfg> surface: let me check, brb
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> russ: Sorry dont even remember what we were working on..
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> spidfire: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  might be a good resource for you
[03:52] <BlackTiger> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1526129 please help
[03:52] <jake1> bleh
[03:52] <danfg> surface: yes, on my /etc/resolv.conf, i have nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, which is my modem/router's ip
[03:52] <jake1> i hate not being able to run synaptic
[03:52] <stefg> pettern: sata on some nvidia-chipsets is buggy, that's all i know.. no idea, try google with 'SIL 3512 ubuntu'
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> Jack_Sparrow: his icons are too cartoony for me
[03:53] <unfknblvbl> i prefer professional ones
[03:53] <jake1> at the same time as apt-get or ffinstall
[03:53] <surface> danfg ur isp didn't provide any dns?
[03:53] <surface> danfg how it be reset to?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> has anyone else here had trouble with the latest "flash-plugin-nonfree" update?
[03:53] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, try Tango
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> unfknblvbl: Thats why there are so many choices...
[03:53] <jake1> when other packagemanagment stuff is running
[03:53] <surface> danfg for me i put my isp defined dns, instead of router.
[03:53] <jake1> nonfree?
[03:53] <jake1> does that mean you have to pay?
[03:54] <unfknblvbl> gfxstyler: tango ?
 no
[03:54] <danfg> surface: it probably does, but i'm guessing the modem/router uses it, i use the modem/router as the DNS server, it works fine. when i reboot, ubuntu resets to no DNS server at all.
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: yes many have.. one sec... we can fix it
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one
[03:54] <gfxstyler> jake1, its simple, you can just run apt once at the time, and synaptic uses it i guess
[03:54] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, it's a very nice icon theme
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/08/install-mozilla-flash-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[03:55] <unfknblvbl> i'll look 4 it
[03:55] <surface> danfg weird
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> err?
[03:55] <jake1> gfxstyler: yes but i cnt run it with other pakage management
[03:55] <gfxstyler> unfknblvbl, it should be installed by default on dapper, if not, try to search tango in synaptics package manager
[03:55] <danfg> surface: indeed
[03:55] <gfxstyler> jake1, what do you mean? run it with rpm ?
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: nice one mate
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:55] <jake1> like i cnt install something and then go to synaptic and try to install something else
[03:55] <plut> hi
[03:55] <plut> i need some help
[03:55] <plut> :/
[03:55] <gfxstyler> jake1, yes, this is not possible
[03:56] <jake1> such as using ffinstall/<file>.tar.gz
[03:56] <surface> danfg where did u set ur dns for now?
[03:56] <boink> plut: just ask
[03:56] <whazilla> how do i remove a package that i can't remove update or configure ? it won't cuz it can't be started or configured ?
[03:56] <plut> kk thansk
[03:56] <whazilla> pacvkage : cman
[03:56] <danfg> surface: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:56] <plut> i need to install a prism wifi driver
[03:56] <stefg> !wifi
[03:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:56] <danfg> surface: works fine right now
[03:56] <plut> <3
[03:56] <plut> thanks
[03:56] <unfknblvbl> oh ok thanks gfxstyler
[03:56] <jake1> and i wish it were, cuz now i have to wait for the other install to be done before i go look for package
[03:57] <tristan_> anyone knows where the Celstia folder is located?
[03:57] <tristan_> Celestia sorry
[03:57] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow i don`t get it . i did in Firestarter GUI:  allow inboud service bittorrent 6881-6889 , and typed 6881 into utorrent and it says that i didn`t open da port. what`s wrong?
[03:57] <gfxstyler> Trinisan, you could do : locate Celestia    or: locate celestia
[03:57] <surface> danfg:  i mean where u set ur configuration? or u just simply edit /etc/resolve.conf?
[03:57] <stefg> ubunter: are you behind a hardware router?
[03:57] <ubunter> no
[03:58] <tristan_> thanks gfxstyler
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: I dont use firestarter, but did you apply the settings and exit
[03:58] <zaggynl> What's a nice way to stop gdm and X?  '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' and CTRL+ALT+DEL ?
[03:58] <danfg> surface: System > Administration > Networking, I enter the root password, DNS tab, I add an entry to DNS Servers and press OK
[03:58] <jrib> zaggynl: ctrl-alt-backspace you mean?
[03:58] <cwc> !dri
[03:59] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[03:59] <jake1> if i interrupt something in  the terminal is there a way to let it continue where it left off
[03:59] <jake1> such as uncompressing a file
[03:59] <vk> How can i start <SUDO PPPOECONF> In Edgy Eft?
[03:59] <surface> danfg:  emmm. thats correct
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[03:59] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow - wow...
[03:59] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:59] <danfg> surface: any reason why ubuntu would remove dns servers from resolv.conf (i'm guessing that's where ubuntu writes down the DNS server addresses)? maybe that can help somehow
[03:59] <zaggynl> jrib, ehh oops yeah
[03:59] <gfxstyler> jake1, if your archiver supports to resume, but i dont think so
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ubunter: Wow what?
[04:00] <ubunter> Jack_Sparrow - it works
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:00] <danfg> surface: i'm going to reboot and check if resolv.conf is changed/erased or something
[04:00] <NeilyBoy> playing games for windows is not practical on linux, is it?
[04:00] <wo_Ot> 'ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP' <- what is that mean?
[04:00] <stefg> !cedega
[04:00] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:00] <NeilyBoy> but cedega is not free
[04:00] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, depends on your graphics card
[04:00] <danfg> brb
[04:01] <stefg> NeilyBoy: the win games are not free either :-) (although some people tend to ignore that)
[04:01] <gfxstyler> lol
[04:01] <tristan_> by the way, anyone use Celestia here?
[04:02] <NeilyBoy> right. but i prefer not to feel like i need to drive a car in order to sit.
[04:02] <NeilyBoy> lol did that make any sense
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> NeilyBoy: Maybe this will get you started  http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[04:02] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, lol
[04:02] <wo_Ot> soneone?
[04:02] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, you dont code the games, do you :)
[04:03] <Temporo> Hummm, quick question, would you know why when i just installed firestarter enabled a rule to remotely view Ntop i can see the ntop interface but none of the ntop data. only just happened after installed firestarter.
[04:03] <NeilyBoy> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:03] <NeilyBoy> even though i can install UT2004 on linux, i would prefer to to run the windows version on linux if it gave 100% identical performance
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> NeilyBoy: also check out sauerbratten
[04:04] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, why would you want to do that
[04:04] <surface> Temporo:  the port ntop used been block, as easy as that.
[04:04] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, they are the same, and probably the native version has better performance
[04:04] <NeilyBoy> epic is slower at releasing patches for UT2004 linux version
[04:04] <NeilyBoy> and that puts a dampener on which servers i can play on
[04:04] <gfxstyler> you're right
[04:04] <Temporo> surface:i allowed ntop though.. or does it use a loopback?
[04:05] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, if you have an nvidia graphics card you could install ut2004 in wine and switch to the opengl interface in ut2004.ini
[04:05] <surface> Temporo:   ur ntop at other machine?
[04:05] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: interesting
[04:06] <NeilyBoy> now that i think about it, opengl is always slower than D3D
[04:06] <gfxstyler> i just head that opengl works better in cedega, compared to direct3d
[04:06] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, btw, on nvidia cards opengl is a hell of a lot faster than on ati graphics cards
[04:06] <Temporo> surface: Both on the same machine HTTPS set up for port 3001 which works, just can't see any of the data that was able to see before i installed firestarter and it didn't pick up on me viewing ntop HTTPS data either.
[04:06] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: really? wow. yeah, i have an ATI.
[04:07] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, same here :/
[04:07] <amorfo> hello, can someone please help me diagnose a hardware problem?
[04:07] <NeilyBoy> how much faster are we talking?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Lots
[04:07] <wren> I have a stupid question: Would I have to switch to a less stable version of Ubuntu to get the package for the 2.6.17 kernel? Is that a bad thing? How could I do such a thing?
[04:07] <danfg> surface: i just rebooted. heh, my resolv.conf was cleaned up, no nameserver entries in it, then i had to do the System > Administration > etc. to fix the DNS stuff, again
[04:08] <zaggynl> This is weird, I have two Xchat icons in my tray, but only one responds
[04:08] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, well ati cards on linux are about 1/3 the speed of windows, and ati's opengl performance is also about 50% slower than nvidia (i compared a geforce4ti > ati radeon 9600)
[04:08] <stefg> wren: why would you want to do that?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !glxgears
[04:08] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:08] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, maybe in games it is not that much %, i just tested some examples of mine and with blender
[04:08] <danfg> guys, who is cleaning up my resolv.conf settings ???
[04:08] <surface> danfg:  wait a sec, let me do a script for u to work around temporary
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> amorfo: Just ask, if someone knows they will answer
[04:08] <wren> stefg: It looks like 2.6.17 has improved support for my schmancy keyboard. Not a biggy, but it'd be nice if it worked better.
[04:09] <melon> without pointing me to the restricted formats link - does anybody have a quick fix for quality issues regarding mp3s?
[04:09] <gfxstyler> danfg, does restricting permissions on /etc/resolv.conf help ?
[04:09] <danfg> surface: what if i restrict write permissions to resolv.conf
[04:09] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: is opengl for nvidia faster than d3d while playing games in Windows?
[04:09] <danfg> gfxstyler: yes, great idea, i will try that
[04:09] <Raj> Grub Not recognising my second hard Disk OS.. Any help
[04:09] <surface> danfg:  fancy but can try
[04:10] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, i dont think it is that much of a difference
[04:10] <gfxstyler> but im no expert so better ask someone else :D
[04:10] <danfg> gfxstyler, surface: but really, why is ubuntu messing with my DNS settings in the first place. btw, i heard a beep when i was booting up, X was almost finished loading. i will check the boot log brb
[04:10] <ahfeel> hi all
[04:10] <ahfeel> i'm trying to build my own local repository but i have a problem
[04:11] <surface> danfg:  try search around /etc/networking something...
[04:11] <ahfeel> i've created Packages and Packages.gz files
[04:11] <russ> can anyone help set up dual monitors....that's the only thing i miss about windows xp....
[04:11] <ahfeel> but apt-get update wants Packages.bz2 file
[04:11] <ahfeel> how can i create it ?
[04:11] <stefg> wren: each ubuntu release comes with a given kernel-version, so dapper has and will alway have 2.6.15 (although it's closer to .16) The only way to put a newer kernel on that is to roll your own and package that up.  That's quite some work and requires experince
[04:11] <zaggynl> Hmm I need the truetype font for steam, and I've apt-get installed msttcorefonts, now what?
[04:11] <DtTvB> Umm, I am new to Ubuntu, can anyone please tell me where is directory of Kernel C header files?
[04:11] <gfxstyler> danfg, i just use /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf manually, because the network manager of gnome/ubuntu doesnt like my ethernet +wlan setting (always removes the gateway address? what the hell ?) ... i guess i have the same problem, except my configs dont get cleared/overwrittenn
[04:12] <amorfo> It all started when my hard drive started giving IDE errors. Ok so I thought, I have a bad drive, and indeed it had a few bad blocks. So I overwrote them, and problem solved. Or so I thought. Since then I get random lockups/freezes. First thing I thought: replace hard drive. I ordered another one, and meanwhile I used a live cd. The thing is, the system also freezes randomly in the live cd, with the hard disk disconnected. So i thought: memory. Ran memte
[04:12] <amorfo> st for 5 hours straight, no problem. I switched the PSU, problem persists. Now I'm using a different IDE channel (Promise one, I was using the VIA one before) and it appears stable. So I'd like to know: is it possible that I have a bad IDE controller, and could it fool the drive into thinking the drive is bad?
[04:12] <stefg> DtTvB: /usr/src/linux/include
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ahfeel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages   might help
[04:12] <wren> sfefg: Would I have to actually make the package, or could I just build the kernel and install the image manually? Also, how would I go about stepping up from dapper?  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:14] <botxj> what there's no irc kicks in here, there's just passive kicking under the guise of a /part ?
[04:14] <botxj> man, this network is weird....
[04:14] <DtTvB> There was "/usr/src", but I don't see "/usr/src/linux".
[04:14] <zaggynl> botxj, indeed, now you say it
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: Ops dont show until we need them
[04:15] <stefg> wren: the point is that you've got to get the sources from kernel.org for , say, 2.6.17 and use kpkg to compile and package it
[04:15] <botxj> then what was that that "kicked" vk just now for spamming?
[04:15] <unfknblvbl> server ?
[04:15] <wren> sfefg: I've experience building my own kernel, so I could do that if I wanted. How much sense would it make, though, for me to switch to Edgy?
[04:16] <ubunter> how to create shortcuts in xfce?
[04:16] <NeilyBoy> Which do linux gurus more openly accept: AMD or Intel?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> botxj: He was also asking edgy questions in Dapper and had been asked to go to the right channel a few times
[04:16] <danfg> gfxstyler, surface: i'll change write permissions in resolv.conf, which is sad, but oh well. guys, thanks a lot for helping me with this, i appreciate it
[04:16] <surface> danfg:  welcome, it works then?
[04:17] <stefg> wren: edgy has its rough edges still. I'd recommend waiting for the release, or enter the learning curve and build your custom 2.6.17 for dapper... there's quite an amount of howtos on the net how to do it right
[04:17] <danfg> surface: i will have to verify that on next reboot :)
[04:17] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, i use intel, but that was no intention really
[04:17] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, amd is not as expensive as intel
[04:17] <NeilyBoy> i knew that lol
[04:17] <wren> sfefg: Cool. Thanks for the input, that's exactly what I needed to know!
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife just woke up... TIme for me to have breakfast. Play nice....
[04:19] <gfxstyler> sparrow's gone, let's party :)
[04:19] <Neo8750> lol
[04:19] <danfg> let the flooding begin!
[04:19] <Neo8750> he still got him! =P
[04:19] <gfxstyler> wrong...button
[04:19] <danfg> he's actually just around the corner waiting for someone to misbehave
[04:19] <plut> another question, has anyone here tried using SMC wireless cards on breeezy?
[04:19] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80]
[04:19] <NeilyBoy> how come so many people use other linux OS's?  is there no real answer to why people choose one linux OS over another?
[04:19] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80]
[04:20] <rem__> why i the ip in ..is it ipv6 format ?
[04:20] <ubunter> hwo to make shortcuts in xubuntu?
[04:20] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:20] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, personal taste i'd think
[04:20] <Neo8750> NeilyBoy: it depends on what you are looking for and how hands on you want to be
[04:20] <botxj> NeilyBoy: it's called variety.... this is the exact same concept as why not everyone drives the same car
[04:20] <NeilyBoy> ubunter: select and drag, hold ALT and you should get a popup menu when you release the mouse button
[04:21] <DtTvB> Are there other places than /usr/src/linux/kernel?
[04:21] <omar> hello guys, I need a p2p sharing files. don't like frostwire
[04:21] <gfxstyler> i use gentoo as long as ubuntu edgy is not out ... xorg 7.1 and the opensource drivers are way faster for me than the fglrx ones in ubuntu dapper
[04:21] <omar> just recomend me one
[04:21] <rem__> omar -> aMule
[04:21] <omar> I will find it
[04:22] <stefg> DtTvB: what are you trying to do?
[04:22] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:22] <omar> trying to get some mp3
[04:22] <Neo8750> ?
[04:22] <krazykit> gfxstyler: what graphics card?
[04:22] <DtTvB> Install a VMWare tools, as I am using it as a virtual machine, to practice my linux skill.
[04:22] <NeilyBoy> so there is nothing significant about Ubuntu that makes it stand out against the other OS's?
[04:22] <gfxstyler> krazykit, ati radeon mobility 9600
[04:23] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, ubuntu is really easy but still not bloated and slow
[04:23] <krazykit> NeilyBoy: it's hella easy to set up, it looks good, and has rather good defaults
[04:23] <unfknblvbl> i liek it how the theme manager comes  with ubuntu instead of installing extra crep
[04:23] <ubunter> NeilyBoy - doesn`t work
[04:23] <rem__> at the time it was the only debian based that I found that had an up to date Gnome etc..
[04:23] <rem__> without having to use unstable ..
[04:23] <krazykit> rem__: technically, ubuntu IS debian unstable ;-)
[04:23] <stefg> DtTvB: Uhoh... vmware... that requires the full source-tree (which isn't instzalled by default) and possibly a kernel rebuild
[04:23] <gfxstyler> krazykit, but with patches
[04:24] <rem__> yea..true...but its unstable...ok stable .. :)
[04:24] <DtTvB> OK.
[04:24] <krazykit> stefg: doesn't require a kernel rebuild, needs source tree
[04:24] <NeilyBoy> ubunter: where are you trying to make the shortcut?
[04:24] <Neo8750> so your saying daper = debian unstable?
[04:24] <ubunter> on desktop
[04:24] <DtTvB> I am trying again.
[04:24] <gfxstyler> Neo8750, yeah
[04:24] <boink> isn't dapper based on debian unstable?
[04:24] <rem__> from what I know they work on the unstable to make them stable enough to be in the distro ..
[04:24] <rem__> ?
[04:24] <boink> or is it based on debian testing?
[04:25] <HOT> hmmm i download new module headers and broke truecrypt, anyone got any suggestions
[04:25] <HOT> ?
[04:25] <Neo8750> so edgy is debian super unstable? =8-P
[04:25] <gfxstyler> Neo8750, ubuntu uses unstable debian packages and adds patches and tests them and stuff
[04:25] <NeilyBoy> you should be able to drag the icon on your desktop, but before you let up, hold ALT or CTRL
[04:25] <krazykit> boink: they are all based on debian unstable during the dev cycle.
[04:25] <boink> but dapper?
[04:25] <HOT> uninstalled and reinstalled already, lame question but would i need a reboot ?
[04:25] <gfxstyler> all versions
[04:25] <boink> ok
[04:25] <ubunter> NeilyBoy - on desktop
[04:25] <HOT> modprobe truecrypt shows module not found
[04:25] <booos887> question : i need a fierwal for ubutnu , ???
[04:25] <rem__> Hey..I ger this error when I apt-get update, the link however is reachable from that computer and apt-get update works fine from another computer in the network: 00:04:76:da:3a:87
[04:25] <rem__> Cannot initiate the connection to ch.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:620:0:8:203:baff:fe52:38e6 80]
[04:26] <rem__> anyone ?
[04:26] <krazykit> booos887: not really.
[04:26] <surface> rem__:  why ipv6 address?
[04:26] <krazykit> rem__: sounds like ipv6 isn't workign right on that machine/server
[04:26] <rem__> dunno it says ip in front and it sure doesnt look like an ipv4 adress ..
[04:26] <booos887> i need a fierwal for ubuntu ho dont eat a loot of ram :)
[04:27] <booos887> i need a smal fiewral
[04:27] <booos887> :)
[04:27] <gfxstyler> booos887, firestarter?
[04:27] <NeilyBoy> is a firewall even useful in Linux?
[04:27] <surface> rem__:  where are u from? ipv6 , are u from japan?
[04:27] <stefg> booos887: you already have one... iptables :-)
[04:27] <rem__> ...but why is it using that and why from another machine is it working fine ? is there something in the settings I can change ... ?
[04:27] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, if you do not have open ports, i guess not
[04:27] <booos887> :)
[04:27] <DtTvB> "None of pre-built vmhgfs modules for VMware Tools is suitable for your running kernal." What should I do, since I don't have the source tree?
[04:27] <rem__> Switzerland
[04:27] <boink> Nellyboy: depends on what you need
[04:27] <krazykit> DtTvB: get it.
[04:27] <NeilyBoy> nelly lol
[04:28] <HOT> DtTvB: i had to get it
[04:28] <booos887> i need a smal fierwal ho dont eat my ram :)
[04:28] <HOT> then change the path when asked by the install script
[04:28] <boink> sorry :P
[04:28] <FRET> hello
[04:28] <surface> rem__:  u at some research lab of uni?
[04:28] <stefg> DtTvB: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname-r`
[04:28] <NeilyBoy> is ok
[04:28] <HOT> worked me me fella, your millage may vary
[04:28] <DtTvB> Thanks.
[04:28] <booos887> english it'z killing me :)
[04:28] <gfxstyler> booos887, firestarter is just a frontend to iptables i think
[04:28] <surface> rem__:  not sure, another machine also ipv6?
[04:28] <rem__> I copied/paste the source.list from a computer where it works .. :(
[04:28] <surface> gfxstyler:  firestarter is not a good front end
 Grub Not recognising my second hard Disk OS.. Any help
 I USED to have Dual Boot SATA with WinXP and Ubuntu.
 For a Valid reason I removed my first SATA HDD and Placed new SATA Drive in a new slot and Installed Windows Server 2000
[04:28] <Neo8750> why not turn off ipv6/
[04:28] <NeilyBoy> wow linux users rock. i almost forgot, stage6 videos play fine in linux.. even tho stage6 doesn't support linux
[04:28] <booos887> a nother fierwal ho dont eat a loot af resurces
[04:28] <pty> webmin makes configuring iptables pretty easy
[04:29] <gfxstyler> rem__, you could change "ch" to "en" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:29] <booos887> :)
[04:29] <gfxstyler> surface, i dont use it, sorry
[04:29] <surface> rem__:  i mean did the works computer have ipv6 too?
[04:29] <krazykit> booos887: it doesn't use a lot.
[04:29] <Raj> I tried reinstalling Grub. No luck
[04:29] <DtTvB> `uname-r`, command not found. is it root?
[04:29] <krazykit> DtTvB: uname -r
[04:29] <Raj> Now each time I have to use Bios to swap hard disks
[04:29] <krazykit> DtTvB: you need the space
[04:29] <surface> swt
[04:29] <stefg> DtTvB: there was a space missing between uname and -r
[04:29] <surface> uname is command -r is option
[04:29] <DtTvB> OK.
[04:30] <booos887> i dont now to work with iptables :)
[04:30] <FRET> the following two packages are not updated by aptitude, but the graphical package-manager wants to update them:linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. Why is that so?
[04:30] <DtTvB> Thank you.
[04:30] <rem__> dunno....i'll have to check...but I didnt install it
[04:30] <Neo8750> booos887: that makes 2 of us [=)
[04:30] <booos887> :)
[04:30] <rem__> they are on ipv4 ....but I have to check if they also use ipv6 ..
[04:30] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, stage6 ?
[04:30] <HOT> anyone got experience of breaking truecrypt with kernel update?
[04:30] <krazykit> booos887: that's the point of firestarter.
[04:30] <booos887> :)
[04:30] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: stage6.com
[04:30] <Heptofite> hey, i've got a computer with no optical drive, would i be able to network boot it from a regular ubuntu installation to install ubuntu on it?
[04:30] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, is that porn?
[04:30] <booos887> do you use a fierwal??
[04:31] <Samuli^> RAj, you need to reinstall grub to your first HDD and probably do a little bit menu.lst editing to get XP working again. Otherwise you could try and swap the HD's so that the one with grub is first.
[04:31] <NeilyBoy> gfxstyler: no. here is my profile: http://stage6.divx.com/members/83468/videos
[04:31] <Neo8750> Heptofite: i think you need the alternative cd
[04:31] <gfxstyler> NeilyBoy, oh, i was just curious to open unknown links :D
[04:31] <HOT> Heptofite: i used BootP to push an install over network with a ne2000 card
[04:31] <NeilyBoy> :P
[04:31] <krazykit> booos887: my router is firewall enough for my needs.  i don't run any servers that are open outside my network
[04:32] <Raj> Samuli, I did try reinstalling grub. It did not write any lines to my menu.lst file
[04:32] <FRET> the following two packages are not updated by aptitude, but the graphical package-manager wants to update them:linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. Why is that so?
[04:32] <booos887> :) hm... ai dont use nothing for my networh
[04:32] <booos887> :)
[04:32] <Raj> Samuli I can access my dual boot Hdd, But not the second hard disk OS
[04:33] <SimonAnibal> FRET: What do you mean they are not updated, but want to be updated? If Synaptic suggests updating, what's the problem?
[04:33] <Samuli^> RAj, the thing is you have windows 2000 boot-manager on the first HD and grub on the second, right?
[04:33] <booos887> i heard theat seagate fierwal  dont use a lot of ram
[04:33] <booos887> ?
[04:33] <DtTvB> Couldn't fuind package linux-source-2.6.15-26-386.
[04:34] <gfxstyler> booos887, if you dont have any servers/ports open, why bother usign a firewall on linux
[04:34] <Samuli^> booos887, sygate?
[04:34] <Raj> Samuli , Its like this... my sda1 has Xp, sda3 has ubuntu, sdb1 has windows 2000
[04:34] <stefg> DtTvB: Oh, i see... then just sudo apt-get install linux-source
[04:34] <Raj> Samuli, I have no problem accessing xp and 2000
[04:34] <FRET> SimonAnibal, I usually use the commandline and aptitude for managing packages. Aptitude says that it will not update those two packages. But the graphical manager wants to update them. Why?
[04:34] <stefg> (meta-package, will draw the right one as dependency)
[04:34] <FRET> SimonAnibal, I thought they're the same
[04:35] <DtTvB> Thank you.
[04:35] <booos887> :) i"m a beginer i use ubuntu only for downlowding ,music end movie :)
[04:35] <Samuli^> Raj, do you have grub installed or is it the windows boot-manager?
[04:35] <Raj> I have Grub Installed on sda 1 which has xp and ubuntu
[04:35] <Samuli^> raj, yes, but does it load?
[04:35] <SimonAnibal> FRET, I usually let the graphical tools take care of updates
[04:36] <krazykit> booos887: then you don't need a firewall
[04:36] <Raj> Yep, I can access ubuntu and xp on my sda1, To access 2000, I had to use bios to swap HDD to boot from sdb1
[04:36] <SimonAnibal> FRET, Is there any reason you wouldn't want the graphical tool to take care of it?
[04:36] <booos887> are you showre ....nowan cent aceess my computer ef i dont have a fierwal ???
[04:37] <Samuli^> raj, so you can access XP and ubuntu normally, but you don't want to swap things for 2000?
[04:37] <gfxstyler> booos887, if you dont have open ports, no
[04:37] <booos887> or thei cent get acces in to my computer ef i dont have a fierwal
[04:37] <schierbeck> hello. anyone here in the know about ubuntu?
[04:37] <krazykit> booos887: if you're not running any servers (which ubuntu shouldn't by default) then you really ought to be fine.
[04:37] <boink> s/ef/if/
[04:37] <gfxstyler> booos887, btw, you should really concentrate while you are typing :)
[04:37] <surface> schierbeck:  it sounds funny
[04:37] <krazykit> booos887: if there's nothing accessable, they can't get in.
[04:37] <Raj> Samuli, Yep, you are right... I dont think using Bios is a good thing to do
[04:37] <FRET> SimonAnibal, because I like the command line. But in order to better understand ubuntu I'd like to know why they behave differently.
[04:37] <ryctor> hey
[04:38] <stefg> schierbeck: this isn't #windows-unofficial :-)
[04:38] <schierbeck> hehe
[04:38] <booos887> :) my english dead i learn from the tv :)
[04:38] <booos887> bead
[04:38] <boink> there might be an ubuntu channel for your own language
[04:38] <krazykit> booos887: aaaah.  yeah, tv is the wrong place to learn it ;-)
[04:38] <schierbeck> stefg: i'm trying to use another partition as my home folder, i.e. /home
[04:38] <botxj> hey, i learned english from tv too
[04:38] <Samuli^> RAj, for that you need to edit the menu.lst file in the /boot/grub/menu.lst. You probably need to use the mapping command too (kinda the same as bios-switching)
[04:38] <boink> fofm
[04:38] <boink> oops .. didn't we all :)
[04:38] <booos887> :)
[04:38] <ryctor> what is the debian pkg that I need in order to install the C Compiler and be able to compile stuff in Ubuntu?
[04:38] <SimonAnibal> FRET: I certainly understand, and I'm afraid I don't have enough experience with aptitude to be of much use
[04:39] <schierbeck> but when i mount it, i can't even access it
[04:39] <krazykit> ryctor: build-essential
[04:39] <gfxstyler> ryctor, build-essential
[04:39] <gfxstyler> lol
[04:39] <botxj> lol
[04:39] <botxj> great minds think alike
[04:39] <Raj> Samuli, Can you guide me throgh the steps. I can provide all the info u needed
[04:39] <ryctor> Thanks Dudes
[04:39] <boink> ryctor: apt-get install gcc
[04:39] <DtTvB> I used synaptic to look for "linux-source" in name, I found linux-source-2.6.15, I marked it for installation, am I doing right?
[04:39] <krazykit> ryctor: but you may also need some -dev headers depending on the program, as well as the auto-stuff.
[04:39] <Samuli^> Raj, make a working title for windows 2000 with appropriate options and add "map (hd0) (hd1)" "map (hd1) (hd0)"
[04:39] <stefg> schierbeck: no big deal, format it, enter it in your /etc/fstab, mount it temporarily to /mnt and copy all the stuff over
[04:39] <FRET> SimonAnibal, alright...thx :-)
[04:39] <gfxstyler> DtTvB, if you just install linux-source, then it will get updated automatically cause its a meta-package
[04:39] <plut_> can anyone tell me what the command is to do the hardware detection again?
[04:39] <omar> rem__: I install the mule but it's not working
[04:40] <schierbeck> can i format it non-destructively? it's already ext3
[04:40] <HOT> DtTvB: i found the source headers inside the auto updater Gui
[04:40] <omar> rem__: it's not connected
[04:40] <DtTvB> OK, thank you.
[04:40] <omar> rem__: I install the mule but it's not working
[04:40] <stefg> schierbeck: THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO FORMAT AT ALL
[04:40] <stefg> oops, sorry F
[04:40] <bikstopa> cu all
[04:41] <schierbeck> stefg: i just don't know why it's complaining. perhaps i should set some special parameters in /etc/fstab?
[04:41] <Samuli^> raj, I don't have win 2000 so I can't say what the options should look like. I imagine something like "title blabla" "rootnoverify (1,0)" "makedefault" "saveactive" "chainloader +1" and the mapping lines
[04:41] <gfxstyler> ryctor, sudo apt-get install autoconf automake autogen libtool build-essential                 this are common ones
[04:41] <abeot> any information what's wrong as i installed ubuntu dapper and it included openoffice applications, and when i try to run those, applications load themselfs about 5-10sec and after it those close themselfs
[04:41] <stefg> schierbeck: what's the partiton you want to use as /home?
[04:41] <schierbeck> stefg: sdb1
[04:42] <Raj> Samuli, thanks I will try it
[04:42] <omar> guys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now
[04:42] <schierbeck> stefg: my main partition is sda1
[04:42] <krazykit> abeot: try running it from gnome-terminal and see if it spews an error message
[04:42] <Crazed> any ppl here who know why my HLDS server wont come online with UBUNTU ..
[04:42] <Crazed> just want to test some stuff ..
[04:42] <Crazed> but it wont get online
[04:42] <Crazed> it's running all fine
[04:42] <Caplain> how do i mount bin files?
[04:42] <Crazed> but it's never available to connect ..
[04:42] <stefg> schierbeck: paste me your fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:43] <rem__> think it was a proxy server issue...reconfigured proxy, ubuntu box, reboot, and apt-get ok now .. :)
[04:43] <gfxstyler> Caplain, maybe: sudo mount -t loop /yourbin /mnt/something
[04:43] <HOT> Caplain: the forums contain a nice script for doing that under tips and tricks, gives you a right click option
[04:43] <Caplain> oooh okay thanks
[04:43] <Raj> Samuli what does this string means? "map (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0)" why are we mapping twice
[04:43] <ryctor> I used to mount file systems
[04:43] <abeot> krazykit: eh what commands it uses?
[04:43] <saif> hello, i noticed that my cpu usage is 100%, system monitor says the beagled is using 90% of cpu, wat is beagled??
[04:43] <phreakys> does anyone know of a good audomixer app?
[04:43] <phreakys> beagle demon
[04:43] <gfxstyler> saif, its a file-indexing daemon
[04:44] <phreakys> ya
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, for desktop-search
[04:44] <Crazed> hrm
[04:44] <krazykit> abeot: uh... ooffice
[04:44] <saif> so, it's probably indexing now?
[04:44] <sproingie> i must be the only person that has never had beagled go berzerk
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, yeah
[04:44] <pradeep> schierbeck, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:44] <phreakys> does anyone know a good subsitute for the crappy alsamixer?
[04:44] <Crazed> or did no one read my question ? :)
[04:44] <sproingie> phreakys: yeah, arts
[04:44] <phreakys> aha
[04:44] <booos887> :)ok i have instal ferststarter
[04:44] <krazykit> Crazed: or we don't know ;-)  is this connecting behind a router?
[04:44] <phreakys> tnx sproingie
[04:44] <booos887> look nice
[04:44] <booos887> :)
[04:44] <abeot> krazykit: seems fglrx problem, thanks alot
[04:44] <Justy> Hello
[04:44] <sproingie> phreakys: i dunno that arts will do too well on gnome tho
[04:44] <gfxstyler> saif, you could run: export BEAGLE_EXERCISE_THE_DOG=1 beagled          to let it update with full cpu, after its done you wont have it updating that much anymore
[04:44] <Crazed> yes and the port is forwarded
[04:44] <Justy> question: how can i make some text run as commands?
[04:44] <Crazed> not a retard ;)
[04:44] <brian__> !
[04:44] <kling0n> starting xgl under dapper with the fglrx driver gives me an error about no dri drivers installed... any pointers?
[04:45] <phreakys> using kde here ;)
[04:45] <schierbeck> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24253
[04:45] <Justy> sudo killall NetworkManager | sudo NetworkManager | cat dns <sit
[04:45] <Justy> In example that one
[04:45] <pradeep> Justy, make the file exectable
[04:45] <kling0n> direct rendering is working correctly in regular x
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, that didn't work
[04:45] <krazykit> Crazed: you never know :-P  can you connect to it inside your network?
[04:45] <sproingie> doesn't linux have an actual idle priority scheduler these days?  why doesn't beagle use it?
[04:45] <Crazed> netstat -l |grep 27015
[04:45] <Crazed> udp        0      0 *:27015                 *:*
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, it does killall NetworkManager
[04:45] <SimonAnibal> kling0n, does it bring you to the crashed Xorg screen?
[04:45] <Crazed> no than I get a error in cs
[04:45] <Justy> pradeep, when i ./file it does sudo NetworkManager | cat dns <sit
[04:45] <SimonAnibal> kling0n, the one which prompts you to read the log?
[04:45] <gfxstyler> sproingie, beagle uses inotify and user_xattr, maybe ubuntu doesnt have those
[04:45] <Crazed> something about IP crap ..
[04:46] <FRET> in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05aptitude I have this: aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$";. WHY???
[04:46] <gfxstyler> sproingie, or the /etc/fstab doesnt contain usr_xattr
[04:46] <Crazed> used hlsw with wine to chk if it is online
[04:46] <Crazed> but also no response ..
[04:46] <saif> gfxstyler,  annoying thing, ok, will try that thanx! does it take too long?!?1 coz i need to work on the mchine, and it's too slow!
[04:46] <phreakys> hm, arts is installed. how can i fire it up?
[04:46] <stefg> schierbeck: that looks right... did you copy the right filetree over?
[04:46] <sproingie> gfxstyler: that has nothing to do with process priority.  if beagle discovers that i created 1000 new files, i still expect it to wait til the system's idle to index 'em
[04:46] <omar> guys I install the mule but it's not working, what can I do now
[04:46] <krazykit> Crazed: then something's not right with the server itself.  i can't help further, as i've not set up hl servers
[04:46] <pradeep> Justy, so killall not working?
[04:46] <wariola> hi everyone
[04:46] <schierbeck> stefg: filetree?
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, it works
[04:47] <Crazed> think I already know :p
[04:47] <gfxstyler> saif, yes if you have many files, you could do it while going away .. or if you dont need fast+fancy search, do "killall beagled" and remove "beagled" from System->Preferences->Sessions  in gnome
[04:47] <schierbeck> stefg: i haven't touched that partition
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, but sudo command after killall doesnt
[04:47] <sproingie> gfxstyler: tho i've not actually noticed the cpu problem myself even when i go nuts with lots of files.  i just see everyone else complain tho
[04:47] <Justy> pradeep, i need to do ./file again
[04:47] <stefg> schierbeck: ok... then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:47] <HOT> saif: my personal take is beagle is a resource monster and not worth it, locate seems to work fine for me on reiserfs
[04:47] <saif> gfxstyler, yes, i'll remove it! i dont searc anyways!
[04:48] <schierbeck> stefg: i'll try that
[04:48] <gfxstyler> sproingie, sure, but indexing and checking for new files takes more cpu power if you dont have the stuff posted above working (at least the beagle faq says so )
[04:48] <sproingie> HOT: locate doesn't index the content of files
[04:48] <Justy> pradeep, try it ?
[04:48] <HOT> true
[04:48] <pradeep> Justy, why don't you run the entire file as root?
[04:48] <pradeep> without the sudo
[04:48] <Darkvador> what's the code in fdisk for a ntfs filesystem ?
[04:48] <stefg> schierbeck: and then copy the all folders in /home over to /mnt
[04:48] <Justy> pradeep, i will test..
[04:48] <ryctor> is there a deb pkg for the source files?
[04:48] <sproingie> gfxstyler: ah.  it should just take longer imho, not eat more cpu
[04:48] <schierbeck> stefg: it mounts fine, but when i cd /mnt it says "permission denied"
[04:49] <Crazed> krazykit: forgot the +map thingy ..
[04:49] <Crazed> then it wont load anything
[04:49] <stefg> schierbeck: you need to have root-privileges
[04:49] <Crazed> stupid cs ;)
[04:49] <sproingie> i used to run xfs when i was running 64 bit.  also quite nice for heavy file i/o
[04:49] <schierbeck> stefg: so sudo cp -R /home/* /mnt/ ?
[04:49] <Justy> pradeep, nope, now "NetworkManager" doesn't work...
[04:49] <stefg> schierbeck: right
[04:49] <pradeep> stefg, schierbeck ... if you just 'copy' stuff from home to some other dir ... cp won't copy everything
[04:50] <gfxstyler> cp -a -r
[04:50] <gfxstyler> or what
[04:50] <schierbeck> ok
[04:50] <stefg> ^^^^ right ^^^^
[04:50] <sproingie> gfxstyler: i wonder if ubuntu's ext3 is set up to have extended attributes by default?
[04:50] <FRET> in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05aptitude I have this: aptitude::Keep-Unused-Pattern "^linux-image.*$ | ^linux-restricted-modules.*$";. WHY???
[04:50] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, no... Xgl  starts correctly
[04:50] <pradeep> Justy, can you paste the file someplace .. or pm
[04:50] <gfxstyler> sproingie, i dont know, the default fstab doesnt contain ex. attributes, though
[04:51] <schierbeck> stefg: ok, what now?
[04:51] <Justy> sure..
[04:51] <sproingie> FRET: so you can go back to an older kernel if the new one fries on you
[04:51] <gfxstyler> sproingie, maybe they use other magic
[04:51] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, but I get segfault when launching compiz
[04:51] <stefg> schierbeck: umount /mnt
[04:51] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work,  compiz is from the quinn repository
[04:51] <schierbeck> stefg: done
[04:51] <gfxstyler> kling0n, compiz is called beryl now
[04:51] <sproingie> gfxstyler: if the fstab doesn't specify it, i think it's not on.  seems a pretty big oversight.
[04:51] <stefg> schierbeck: and then uncomment the entry in /etc/fstab again
[04:51] <gfxstyler> i mean compiz-quinnstorm
[04:51] <FRET> sproingie, but somehow I cannot install the new kernel with aptitude, only with the graphical package manager.
[04:52] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n: So the error pops up at the gdm login or after you log in? Or only when you try compiz?
[04:52] <FRET> sproingie, is that normal?
[04:52] <saif> ok, wen i first logged in to my session i got an error about .dmrc has wrong permissions, couldn't figure what might have changed it, now i noticed gksudo is giving error sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0662, should be 0440, could this because of ext2fs
[04:52] <sproingie> FRET: that's odd, considering they read from the same package list. i have the opposite problem, the graphical update thingie doesn't install packages anymore
[04:52] <Howitzer> If i use a proxy to surf with firefox, is the traffic still visible on the router i'm connected to for my internet?
[04:52] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work,  I log in fine... running metacity under xgl is working
[04:52] <gfxstyler> saif, have you edited the /etc/sudoers ?
[04:52] <saif> nop
[04:52] <kling0n> launching compiz from terminal gives me a segfault
[04:52] <schierbeck> stefg: thanks for the help. i'll try to restart and see what happens.
[04:53] <stefg> schierbeck: hold on...
[04:53] <FRET> sproingie, nice :-)
[04:53] <schierbeck> stefg: shouldn't i chown or something?
[04:53] <sproingie> kling0n: compiz --replace
[04:53] <saif> gfxstyler, what other important system files that should be read only should i check?
[04:53] <gfxstyler> kling0n, try to use compiz-manager
[04:53] <Justy> pradeep, i did...
[04:53] <krazykit> Howitzer: yes.
[04:53] <pradeep> Howitzer, yes has to be
[04:53] <FRET> sproingie, but you don't have any solution for it now?
[04:53] <Howitzer> really?
[04:53] <Howitzer> YES
[04:53] <gfxstyler> kling0n, and forget about the other stuff ... compiz-manager is the easy and comfortable way
[04:53] <stefg> schierbeck: the thing is to test now if it works first. 'sudo mount -a'
[04:53] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, I concur with gfxstyler
[04:53] <Max_-> what is the /&?$/ default root password???  please.
[04:53] <sproingie> FRET: nope, it should definitely be appearing in aptitude too
[04:53] <pradeep> Justy, where?
[04:53] <krazykit> Howitzer: all the traffic is going through the router... the websites simply won't see your real IP
[04:53] <schierbeck> sudo mount -a
[04:53] <sproingie> Max_-: there isn't one
[04:54] <schierbeck> crap, wrong window
[04:54] <Max_-> what!!!!
[04:54] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler ill give it a try :)
[04:54] <boink> !tell Max_ about su
[04:54] <Justy> pradeep, pm it to you
[04:54] <Howitzer> what?
[04:54] <stefg> schierbeck: and then log out and bacjk in agin
[04:54] <FRET> sproingie, it does appear in aptitude, but is not installed.  Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:55] <sproingie> Max_-: it has root.  it just doesn't use a root password
[04:55] <sproingie> FRET: it should tell you why it won't install it if you hit return on the package
[04:55] <jpjacobs> Howitzer,  get a life and a livecd
[04:55] <boink> but you can make a root passwd if you really want that
[04:55] <Justy> pradeep, Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:55] <sproingie> FRET: there most likely be a package in red
[04:55] <Howitzer> jpjacobs, why a livecd? (and i do have a life >:( )
[04:55] <Max_-> I really want that, yes!
[04:56] <kling0n> compiz-manager is simply a frontend
[04:56] <krazykit> Howitzer: if you don't want the router to see your traffic, either tunnel into another box or bypass the router physically
[04:56] <gfxstyler> Howitzer, linux will take it away
[04:56] <FRET> sproingie, I'm talking about aptitude in a shell
[04:56] <Howitzer> meh
[04:56] <jpjacobs> Howitzer, just kidding, for the You-know-what-sites ;)
[04:56] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler compiz-manager is simply a frontend
[04:56] <Howitzer> porn isn't worth all that trouble -_-
[04:56] <gfxstyler> kling0n, put compiz-manager in your gnome-session, this will start compiz
[04:56] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, gfxstyler it doesnt change that compiz is crashing
[04:56] <sproingie> FRET: oh just from the command line?  try running the curses gui and find the package and drill down into it
[04:56] <ubunter> hi. this firestarter didn`t show his icon after reboot. i`m trying guarddog now. but there is a question. i want to change some options i gdog but he need super previleges. what should i do?
[04:56] <pradeep> Justy, oh :(
[04:56] <sproingie> FRET: most likely you need to update and dist-upgrade
[04:56] <gfxstyler> kling0n, when i start compiz without compiz-manager it is crashing, too
[04:57] <kling0n> gfxstyler, It still crashes... then reverts to metacity
[04:57] <saif> argh! all my files under /etc are rw for every1! somehow i feel this shouldn't be the case! what should i do?? change all to 644? 600?
[04:57] <gfxstyler> kling0n, with compiz-manager it works, + when it crashes then it will run metacity as fallback
[04:57] <pradeep> Justy-, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:57] <FRET> sproingie, no... I like command-line package-management. There should be no need for a gui. I'll have another try...
[04:57] <JosefK> kling0n: by crash, do you mean segfault?
[04:57] <Justy-> lol
[04:57] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > can anyone redirect me to a good source of ubuntu desktop themes to download? =) thank you
[04:57] <kling0n> JosefK, yes
[04:57] <DtTvB> linux-source: 404 file not found..
[04:57] <Justy-> pradeep, that is cool! but i registered =)
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: didn't work...
[04:58] <sproingie> FRET: then figure out the appropriate apt-* command.  otherwise just use the gui that makes it obvious
[04:58] <pradeep> Justy-, good
[04:58] <kling0n> I am suspecting my fglrx driver
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: still getting the same error
[04:58] <gfxstyler> [-Haza-Lappy-] , gnome-look.org > murrina    (the best!)
[04:58] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, did you already mention you installed the dri modules?
[04:58] <schierbeck> crap crap crap
[04:58] <stefg> schierbeck: what error
[04:58] <FRET> sproingie, alright...
[04:58] <kling0n> dri is loaded
[04:58] <JosefK> kling0n: i had some odd problems running compiz on fglrx, didn't see a segfault though :/
[04:58] <schierbeck> stefg: "/home/daniel doesn't seem to exists"
[04:58] <Justy-> pradeep, did you recieve my pm now ?
[04:58] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, dri is loaded... but fglrxinfo will not direct render on the XGL display
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[04:59] <schierbeck> stefg: it can't access the partition at all
[04:59] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:59] <JosefK> kling0n: you are running it on display :1 not :0?
[04:59] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, xdriinfo says direct render is not enabled on display :!
[04:59] <sproingie> personally i wish there were gnome and kde clicky front ends for aptitude.  synaptic doesn't have the same power.
[04:59] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, xdriinfo says direct render is not enabled on display :1
[04:59] <[-Haza-Lappy-] > cheers =)
[04:59] <botxj> how many key words does ubotu have?
[04:59] <saif> shit! i can't run sudo!!! so, obviously i can't change permissions!! what could have done this?? last thing i did was update kernel and install vnc
[04:59] <kling0n> JosefK, yes
[04:59] <ubunter> how can i get root power to change the options in guarddog?
[04:59] <kling0n> JosefK, xorg on :0 Xgl on :1
[04:59] <gfxstyler> kling0n, i think that is okay (glxinfo = no direct rendering on xgl - or at least it says so)
[04:59] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, I must confess I run it on AIGLX, and only recently have gotten it to work, I may not be useful to you.
[04:59] <botxj> when you guys talk about x servers and this :0 :1 what does that mean?
[05:00] <gfxstyler> botxj, the display
[05:00] <stefg> schierbeck: check dmesg, if there's file system panic, then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt again and see what files are on it.
[05:00] <roberts> Can anyone recommend a specific guide to getting a Broadcom 43xx wireless NIC working with Ubuntu?  There are multiple that say to follow different steps, with various success reports.  I have a BCM4309 on a Dell Latitude D500 with Dapper's default 2.6.15.
[05:00] <botxj> oh so :0 is display one?
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj:  you can run multiple displays of xorg
[05:00] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, which graphics card are you using?
[05:00] <botxj> cause i have two monitors
[05:00] <gfxstyler> botxj, no, :0 is 0 :D
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj: thats correct
[05:00] <sproingie> huh my ups clicked on for a second and the panel told me i was on backup power.  that's nice to know, means my ups is better supported on linux than windows
[05:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, Onboard Intel
[05:00] <krazykit> roberts: i suggest ndiswrapper for the broadcom cards for now.
[05:00] <SimonAnibal-Work> kling0n, i810 I think
[05:00] <kling0n> SimonAnibal-Work, ok
[05:00] <Samuli^> how does windows use the samba address?
[05:00] <mdasilva_> botxj: its not monitors, think of it as instances
[05:00] <FRET> sproingie, dist-upgrade works... :-)
[05:00] <ubunter> if there is no root login in ubuntu then how can i force guarddog to save my changes in his options?
[05:00] <roberts> krazykit: The drivers in 2.6.17 aren't worth trying to get working?
[05:00] <Samuli^> would something like this work? //user:pass@ip/share?
[05:01] <sproingie> FRET: that gave you the new kernel?
[05:01] <kling0n> i figure this might be related to the fglrx libGL issue
[05:01] <botxj> yeah, mdasilva_ two instances of an x server?
[05:01] <stefg> ubunter: call it by gksudo guarddog
[05:01] <sproingie> ubotu, tell ubunter about sudo
[05:01] <mdasilva_> yep
[05:01] <mdasilva_> botxj: thats right
[05:01] <JosefK> heh. how's this for a weird bug - synaptic on x86 is fine, but on x64 periodically an event isn't raised for mouse button up
[05:01] <FRET> sproingie, right. linux-image-2.6.15-27-386
[05:01] <skoenman> can anybody please help me i need to get some help on editing a config file in ubutu server
[05:01] <JosefK> gotta cancel a support call out now :(
[05:01] <tritium> skoenman: what kind of help do you need?
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> roberts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:02] <FRET> brb...booting new kernel
[05:02] <etoy> I connected to the VPN of my company through pptpclient, but I can not access any computer in my company, anybody can help me?
[05:02] <dcode> I'm having a problem with my mac mini (ppc)...it, seemingly randomly, remounts / as read-only...and happens sometimes during boot, which is a problem
[05:02] <sproingie> FRET: excellent.  i personally use the curses gui all the time, makes updates much easier to review.  i just hit u, U, and g
[05:02] <kling0n> !libGL
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <gfxstyler> botxj, you can switch the x servers and from console to x-server , pretty cool eh :)
[05:02] <kling0n> !libGL1.2
[05:02] <skoenman> is there a prog that i can use to edit the files
[05:02] <skoenman> ???
[05:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL1.2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ubunter> stefg - my bad. thanks
[05:02] <ubunter> sproingie - good to you
[05:02] <skoenman> just to change the things inside
[05:02] <gfxstyler> roberts, i use bcm43xx and 2.6.17
[05:02] <tritium> skoenman: several.  Do you prefer gui, or command line?
[05:02] <gfxstyler> roberts, works fine here
[05:02] <gfxstyler> as you can see :) im chatting here
[05:03] <skoenman> commandline is the only thing avalable in the server ver
[05:03] <skoenman> commandline is the only thing avalable in the server version
[05:03] <tritium> skoenman: you should have vim, nano, gedit at least installed by default
[05:03] <botxj> yeah, i've known that for a while, using the ctrl-alt-F1,etc, commands
[05:03] <vcolombo> Hey all. Does anyone here happen to use the DragLockButtons option in their X config? Mine does not seem to be working correctly.
[05:03] <tritium> skoenman: ah, server.  Try vim or nano.
[05:03] <saif> is there a command on ubuntu to fix permissions to their default values? for the whole system?
[05:03] <roberts> gfxstyler: What are the explicit benefits for using the bcm43xx driver over ndiswrapper?  I know with the latter option you are using 100% proprietary Windows drivers, but with bcm43xx just the firmware is closed, right?
[05:04] <skoenman> k cool thanks
[05:04] <skoenman> k cheers speak later
[05:04] <krazykit> roberts: well, the bcm43xx driver, in my experience, is totally broken.
[05:04] <gfxstyler> roberts, the newer ndiswrapper doesnt work for me anymore (no connection), and the bcm43xx is open, but that are my only reasons
[05:04] <dcode> I often get "ide-pmac lost interrupt, dma status: 8080"
[05:04] <gfxstyler> saif, ubuntu != osx :)
[05:05] <roberts> I tried getting bcm43xx to work before with Debian testing, to no avail.  I'm now deciding between trying again with Dapper and using ndiswrapper.
[05:05] <ubunter> in my neighbourh the one who uses linux is named "leet" :D
[05:05] <gfxstyler> roberts, ndiswrapper in dapper works fine
[05:06] <saif> gfxstyler, ok, any suggestion on how i should fix the system?!? the permissions have al gone bad, i can't sudo, because the sudoers file has messed permissions as well, so i basically can't do anything!!
[05:06] <JosefK> is anyone else using a synaptics touchpad on amd64?
[05:07] <gfxstyler> saif, do you have an enabled root account?
[05:07] <saif> gfxstyler, no :(
[05:07] <tritium> saif: boot into single user mode, and fix things from there
[05:07] <JosefK> hint: when setting up a chroot, and you have /home bound to /chroot/home, it's not a good idea to rm -r /chroot *slaps head*
[05:07] <tritium> saif: normally, you need not touch the sudoers file.  Instead, make sure your user is in the "admin" group.
[05:08] <gfxstyler> saif, otherwise, you could try to boot off a livecd, and open+save your /etc/sudoers with sudoedit/visudo , maybe that repairs the sudoers file permissions so you can use it again
[05:08] <gfxstyler> JosefK, my girlfriend does (touchpad)
[05:08] <tritium> saif: try booting into rescue mode first
[05:08] <gfxstyler> i mean, she uses it
[05:08] <jazzspazz> canany get to bsdnexus.com?
[05:09] <jazzspazz> it loads for me fine in vmware
[05:09] <JosefK> gfxstyler: has she noticed an intermittent problem with ButtonRelease events?
[05:09] <jazzspazz> butthe page wont load for me in firefox
[05:09] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, did you feel you needed to qualify that? :)
[05:09] <jazzspazz> or links
[05:09] <krazykit> jazzspazz: works fine.
[05:09] <saif> gfxstyler, tritium i will try boot to rescue, c what happens there, fix sudoes ( fingers crossed ) and then mess with the rest of the permissions!
[05:09] <JosefK> gfxstyler: I'm only having trouble with it on amd64, not i386, it seems a bit of an obscure bug
[05:09] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, what do you mean by that :)
[05:09] <tritium> saif: okay.  Remember that you choose rescue mode from the grub menu
[05:10] <gfxstyler> JosefK, err .. it works like on windows but smoother, like mine does on i386
[05:10] <gfxstyler> i noticed no errors
[05:10] <saif> tritium, yeah, recovery mode!
[05:10] <JosefK> weird, I'll see if there are any flags I can set in xorg.conf
[05:10] <tritium> saif: yep, same as "single user mode" also.  Many names ;)
[05:10] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, "my girlfriend does (touchpad)", you qualified it with "she uses it", maybe you thought we'd take the first one incorrectly
[05:10] <jazzspazz> do you know why it does not work for me?
[05:10] <jazzspazz> its weird isint it?
[05:11] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, oh yeah, the former one does mean something else i think, thats why i explained it
[05:11] <rasputnik> anyone know where the 2.6 smp kernels went?
[05:11] <manish_> hi
[05:11] <JosefK> rasputnik: you're using edgy?
[05:11] <manish_> hello
[05:11] <rasputnik> JosefK: no, dapper
[05:11] <manish_> who all r here
[05:12] <JosefK> rasputnik: hmm :/ they're still there in dapper for me at least, you didn't run automatix by any chance?
[05:12] <pradeep> manish_, i'm here
[05:12] <manish_> hi pradeep
[05:12] <gpettit> Is there an app-note or wiki on creating your own-ubuntu
[05:12] <rasputnik> JosefK: nope, just stock.
[05:12] <manish_> from which place u belong
[05:12] <SimonAnibal-Work> gfxstyler, heh, I wouldn't have even thought about it if you hadn't qualified it... and your english is impeccable
[05:12] <DethKlok> Is there a way to make it so your ssh session doesnt time out from not using it?
[05:13] <pradeep> manish_, india
[05:13] <JosefK> rasputnik: linux-686-smp ?
[05:13] <Dragonfire1> Finally loaded ubuntu from cd mailed to me I qess my cd burn wasn't good I'm finally on with another computer heha! Now to to explore thanks ubuntu!
[05:13] <manish_> ok pradeep
[05:13] <gfxstyler> SimonAnibal-Work, thanks
[05:13] <manish_> i belong from kerala
[05:13] <quiet> is there a way to get/use alsaconf in dapper?
[05:13] <quiet> if no.. how does one add a new sound card?
[05:13] <pradeep> manish_, nice .. me from chennai :)
[05:13] <gfxstyler> rasputnik, maybe smp kernels are just in universe and you disabled it in your sources.list
[05:13] <stefg> !sound
[05:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:13] <Dragonfire1> running this in puppy
[05:14] <rasputnik> JosefK: oh there it is ! 'apt-cache search 2.6 smp kernel' showed up nothing
[05:14] <rasputnik> thanks
[05:14] <JosefK> np's :)
[05:14] <ubunter> question: what turn on in guarddog to allow viewing websites (i pushed ON DNS)?
[05:14] <rasputnik> gfxstyler: no, they're in main
[05:15] <Dragonfire1> catch you later on yhe other sytem bye
[05:15] <abeot> any is there any cd image burning software in ubuntu?
[05:15] <DethKlok> Anyone know much about SSH?
[05:15] <gpettit> I would like to slim ubuntu down a bit and then make another cd image.  Any suggestions?
[05:15] <gfxstyler> rasputnik, thats weird, no linux-686-smp ?
[05:15] <gfxstyler> abeot, gnomebaker
[05:15] <JosefK> gfxstyler: he has that one :) the lack of version number in the package name confused his cache search
[05:15] <tritium> abeot: even nautilus can burn
[05:16] <gfxstyler> JosefK, oh, sorry
[05:16] <stefg> gfxstyler: smp is now the default... if you want a single-core kernel you have to build it yourself
[05:16] <rasputnik> JosefK, gfxstyler : actually it looks like the 686 kernel is the smp kernel (and linux-686-smp is a metapackage now)
[05:16] <gfxstyler> stefg, in edgy? cool (i use smp, too)
[05:16] <JosefK> indeed it is rasputnik, it's all in the boot options these days
[05:17] <stefg> gfxstyler: already in dapper
[05:17] <abeot> tritium: images to cd?
[05:17] <JosefK> stefg: the obscure thing is that if I want it to see both of my cores (core 2 duo), I have to install an -smp package
[05:17] <tritium> abeot: yes
[05:17] <rasputnik> JosefK: case closed. <play themetune>
[05:18] <rasputnik> JosefK: I'm just hyperthreaded, but can't use it without smp
[05:18] <gfxstyler> JosefK, do you have HT? maybe ht=on as kernel parameter helps
[05:18] <JosefK> thinking about it, this chip probably should have HT... I'll google it
[05:18] <rasputnik> right, time for a bounce
[05:18] <Supaplexg> i'd like to hear some views of what the best musicplayer for GNU/Linux out there is - according to you. i am using amaroK, but it doesn't seem to have support for jack, but I do not want to go back to xmms. do you know any good alternatives (rhytmbox seemed not to even have any configuration options to set audio-out etc)
[05:18] <stefg> !best
[05:18] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:19] <JosefK> alas no HT gfxstyler, just two cores
[05:19] <gfxstyler> Supaplexg, beep-media-player (like xmms but better), bmpx (beta of beep-media-player), banshee (is c# and thus uses mono, i think it is similar to rhythmbox except it doesnt crash that often)
[05:20] <ubunter> how i change root-protected file into new one?
[05:20] <gfxstyler> ubunter, sudo chown user:group file
[05:20] <gfxstyler> ubunter, or sudo chown user:group -R directory
[05:20] <tritium> ubunter: be careful with what you're doing.  You shouldn't go changing permissions on system files.
[05:21] <ubunter> tritium - i have no choice
[05:21] <tritium> ubunter: why?
[05:21] <seif> tritium, gfxstyler that did it, i changed the permissions on sudoers to 0440
[05:21] <ubunter> becauce i must change this file into new version
[05:22] <gfxstyler> ubunter, yeah, seif had the same problem (screwed up file permissions for system files)
[05:22] <SimonAnibal-Work> ANYONE: I have dapper, and I've installed aiglx + compiz, however whenever I click on the power-button-looking Quit icon, compiz freezes. Does anyone have any experience with this? In my research online I've found that some people claim that reverting gnome-session to 2.14.0-0 would fix this issue, but I've not been able to find a way to do that.
[05:22] <stefg> !xgl
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:22] <seif> tritium, gfxstyler but now i know that all the permissions on system files are fucked!! what should i do?? chmod to what?!?!
[05:22] <tritium> seif: you're not supposed to ever touch /etc/sudoes.
[05:22] <tritium> Watch the language, seif.
[05:22] <seif> any howtoes on what the permissions should be?
[05:22] <tritium> /etc/sudoers, that is
[05:22] <cfedde> how do I find out what video card this system has installed?
[05:23] <stefg> SimonAnibal-Work: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <ubunter> so is there any alternative?
[05:23] <tritium> sudo priveleges are given by membership in the admin group
[05:23] <helpmeeee> hey... can someone give me a modeline for xubuntu 1024x768 120hz ??
[05:23] <ubunter> i must change da file but i dont wanna screw
[05:23] <seif> tritium, ok, i never touced it!! that's the problem, i booted up, and noticed that all the permissions were changed!! all of them!!
[05:23] <gfxstyler> seif, i would just re-install ubuntu (cause ubuntu just takes 5 mins to install :) )
[05:23] <tritium> seif: what are you running?
[05:23] <tritium> dapper?  edgy?
[05:23] <seif> tritium, dapper 64
[05:24] <tritium> gfxstyler: was the other person with this problem also running 64-bit?
[05:24] <gfxstyler> cfedde, sudo lspci | grep vga
[05:24] <seif> gfxstyler, it took me hours setting up gridsphere, tomcat, sql, and all the things i like! re-installing would mess all this up!
[05:24] <gfxstyler> tritium, seif was the one, i dont know if he runs 64bit
[05:24] <cfedde> gfxstyler: thanks
[05:24] <seif> ubunter, dapper 64?
[05:24] <helpmeeee> hey... can someone give me a modeline for xubuntu 1024x768 120hz ?? OR tell me how could i get my fuckedup vista to work again. i installed vista on hda5 .. xp was on hda1 . i formated hda1 and installed ubuntu on hda1 .. how can i get to vista ???
[05:24] <gfxstyler> seif, okay, no good idea then
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !language
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <tritium> helpmeeee: language!
[05:25] <helpmeeee> sry sry
[05:25] <cfedde> gfxstyler: thanks sudo lspci | grep -i vga even
[05:25] <n1c> Hey guys.
[05:25] <scrp> helpmeeee: forget Wintendo
[05:26] <gfxstyler> lol
[05:26] <gfxstyler> good one
[05:26] <helpmeeee> no i want to get back there :D
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Wintendo.. very funny
[05:26] <scrp> helpmeeee: usually Windows wants to run on hda1
[05:26] <helpmeeee> how can i set hda5 to be hda1
[05:26] <scrp> helpmeeee: you dont
[05:26] <JosefK> helpmeeee: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <n1c> What's the easiest way to dial PPPoE from the edgy gui?