[00:43] <rojo> on the ubuntu wiki, the template for adding a laptop, in the System Info section, there's a comment reading, "Put the output of the following commands here."  There are no commands that follow.  What commands give what the OS detects as the system-manufacturer, system-product-name, and system-version?
[01:35] <hmich176> msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[01:37] <hmich176> Hi, I'm looking for some help on the recent upgrade to Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop
[01:37] <hmich176> Is this the right place?
[13:51] <FTP> Hi, does anybody know if the Sony FZ31S is a linux compatible?
[21:40] <burnerwarrior008> hello


[01:31] <dergringo> Hello
[01:32] <dergringo> How do I change the privacy settings in Launchpad?
[01:33] <dergringo> I don't want my private data to be indexed by search engines and I want to make them inaccessible for guests
[06:01] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[06:45] <Hobbsee> afternoon mpt~
[11:53] <alefteris> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors is this list being used from the ubuntu apt sources applet? Also where is the cd mirror being used?
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118473 in launchpad "False offline message for non-existent subdomains" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118473
[12:02] <mpt> duuuuplicate
[03:07] <lionel> Is there a way in LP to get a group notification (with the contact mail address) for a group who authored a bzr branch? (for getting commits mail)
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118487 in rosetta "french gnome clock " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118487
[06:24] <mwh> lionel: i have the vague idea that's a WIP
[06:24] <lionel> Ok thanks!
[06:27] <mwh> though i can't find the details now
[06:27] <mwh> you might try asking during the week
[06:28] <mwh> lionel: aha, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/55096
[06:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 55096 in launchpad-bazaar "Teams can't subscribe to branches" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Tim Penhey (thumper)
[06:29] <lionel> Ah nice, subscribing the bug:)
[06:30] <mwh> targeted to 1.1.6, so it should be possible in ~3 weeks time
[06:31] <lionel> Thanks a lot for this details
[06:50] <afflux> anyone able to tell me how to close multiple LP bugs via changelog entries?
[06:50] <afflux> Fixes LP: #123, #456, #789?
[06:51] <pochu> afflux: that works, dunno if "LP: #1, #2, #3..." works.
[06:51] <afflux> k, thx.
[07:13] <PWill> Hi, I no longer receive launchpad emails, but I am still on lots of teams that get lots of bugs daily
[07:14] <PWill> I haven't received email in about 2 weeks
[07:15] <PWill> !ops
[07:15] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:16] <Riddell> PWill ?
[07:17] <PWill> Riddell: see above before I called for ops
[07:17] <mneptok> PWill: problems?
[07:17] <PWill> yes
[07:17] <PWill> I no longer receive email from launchpad
[07:18] <mneptok> is that why you called the ops?
[07:18] <PWill> yes
[07:18] <mneptok> that is not a reason to call IRC ops.
[07:18] <poningru> ...
[07:18] <mneptok> ops are responsible for mainting order in the IRC channels. they have no admin access to Launchpad.
[07:19] <PWill> Well some of them do
[07:19] <PWill> https://launchpad.net/feedback
[07:19] <PWill> here it says to join the channel and ask
[07:19] <mneptok> PWill: do not use !ops for LP issues.
[07:19] <PWill> Well I know that for the future
[07:19] <mneptok> it does not say "join the channel and summon IRC ops by addressing a bot"
[07:20] <mneptok> so, thanks for understanding. i'm sure if you are patient someone with LP admin access can help you.
[07:20] <PWill> But that isn't the issue at hand. I am op on a few channels, and I would have no problem with someone calling ops for that, but still, we are not discussing my issue.
[07:20] <PWill> Ok, thanks.
[07:25] <Riddell> mailing lists have admin addresses, use that <foo>-owner@
[07:25] <Riddell> oh, it's not a mailing list you're talking about
[07:27] <PWill> Riddell: well, I no longer receive mail from the Ubuntu mailing lists either
[07:28] <PWill> I set up a postfix server 2 weeks ago, but I can still receive mail from everyone else, including other mailman lists
[07:28] <PWill> So the Ubuntu mailman configuration is screwed u
[07:28] <PWill> p
[07:29] <poningru> what?
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118524 in launchpad "Email not coming to me..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118524
[07:31] <PWill> Hey, that's me ^
[07:32] <PWill> poningru: What?
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118527 in rosetta "author of translations is changer while updating to new releases" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118527
[07:56] <geser> can somebody tell me why I get "Project: deluge (upstream)" when I try to add an upstream task/bugwatch for a network-manager bug?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> ok your !ops facktoid should be fixed to call everyone on access list for this channel. instead of having a general facktoid
[07:57] <gnomefreak> factoid even
[10:24] <sodoku> i need helpt with translating
[10:25] <sodoku> shell i translate things marked untranslated when the last suggestion is right?
[10:25] <beuno> sodoku: probably not
[10:25] <beuno> you just have to wait for a translator to review it
[10:26] <sodoku> so, then its still marked untranslated
[10:26] <beuno> better focus your efforts on untranslated/unsuggested items
[10:26] <sodoku> ok
[10:26] <beuno> sodoku: yes, it's marked untranslated until an approved translator reviews and approves them
[10:26] <sodoku> but thats the problem
[10:27] <sodoku> i dont know which packages are really untranslated or which havent been reviewed
[10:28] <beuno> sodoku: you should browse through the packages that have untranslated strings
[10:29] <beuno> and when you see there is no suggestion, or the suggestion is wrong, add your own suggestion
[10:29] <sodoku> but as i told you, they are marked untranslated allthough the last suggestion is right
[10:29] <sodoku> as in here
[10:29] <sodoku> https://translations.launchpad.net/gnomebaker/main/+pots/gnomebaker/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated
[10:31] <arj_> hi, is there anything wrong with launchpad atm.?
[10:31] <arj_> I'm getting permission denied while trying to push a change to my bazaar repo
[10:32] <beuno> sodoku: yes, I see, you should look for a different package here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+lang/de
[10:32] <beuno> arj_: I'm not sure, but it's a bit slow for me here now
[10:33] <arj_> permission denied (publickey) it says and then fails to create the ssh connection
[10:33] <beuno> arj_: seems like a problem with your key rathen the LP
[10:34] <arj_> well it worked fine some days ago and I havn't changed anything
[10:34] <arj_> same machine
[10:36] <beuno> arj_: I'm not a LP admin, so I really can't give you any useful information, try again in a few hours, and if it persists, email the launchpad-users mailing list
[10:38] <radix> It's working for me.
[10:38] <radix> arj_: Has it ever worked for you before, or is this the first time you're trying to use the ssh / sftp access?
[10:39] <arj_> it has worked before. I've used it many times
[10:39] <radix> arj_: ok, are you sure your private key is accessible? can you ssh to other hosts with it right now?
[10:42] <exarkun> 'ssh -vvv' will spew a bunch of stuff that is sometimes useful to debug this kind of problem
[10:42] <exarkun> unfortunately you also need 'sshd -vvv' to get the full story
[10:43] <arj_> ach
[10:43] <arj_> it was because it couldn't connect to my ssh-agent
[10:43] <arj_> sorry about that guys
[10:43] <arj_> it's working now :))
[10:43] <beuno> arj_: np, I'm glad it's not Launchpad  :D
[11:45] <Kmos> why LP doesn't have the package: nvidia-glx ?
[11:46] <Kmos> to fill a bug against it
[11:46] <Kmos> nvidia-kernel-common Source of: nvidia-kernel-common
[11:46] <Kmos> nvidia-settings Source of: nvidia-settings
[11:46] <Kmos> nvidia-xconfig Source of: nvidia-xconfig
[11:46] <Kmos> only this ones
[11:48] <pochu> Kmos: emilio@kiko:~$ apt-cache show nvidia-glx | grep Source
[11:48] <pochu> Source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (<IP_ADDRESS>-5.7)
[11:48] <pochu> Kmos: launchpad uses the source package for bugs, so go to that one ^
[11:49] <theforkofjustice> hello?
[11:49] <crimsun> pochu: try `apt-cache madison nvidia-glx`
[11:50] <crimsun> (your mirror hasn't synced yet, or your apt cache isn't current)
[11:50] <crimsun> <IP_ADDRESS>-6.8
[11:50] <pochu> crimsun: I havent upgraded since this morning, so it might be it :)
[11:54] <Kmos> pochu: thanks
[11:54] <Kmos> pochu: i've changed to the correct one.. someone filled bug agains linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 and it .20
[11:54] <Kmos> *it's
[11:55] <Kmos> fixed


[00:06] <orion2036> thank you very much for the huge work on lubuntu
[00:06] <tsimonq2> orion2036: You are very welcome. :)
[00:06] <orion2036> i am pleased to use it on my old dell d600
[00:07] <tsimonq2> That's wonderful! :D
[00:07] <tsimonq2> orion2036: Glad to hear. :)
[00:08] <tsimonq2> orion2036: Please do let us know if you run into any issues. :)
[00:08] <tsimonq2> orion2036: (either here or at the lubuntu-users mailing list listed in the description)
[00:10] <orion2036> i had some issues with pae but it is well described on online help
[00:10] <orion2036> and with the wifi chipset
[00:11] <tsimonq2> Ok, glad to hear that was helpful
[00:17] <orion2036> lubuntu is ecological too because old pcs can be reuse, like my dell d600
[00:20] <tsimonq2> orion2036: Yep :D
[00:23] <orion2036> keep up the good work :)
[00:23] <orion2036> bye
[00:56] <titan914> Just installed LUBuntu on a Dell XPS 13 9343 and I am unable to install the broadcom drivers for the wireless card as I would from a standard Ubuntu install. The only NIC it has is a wireless one. Any suggestions on how to get the drivers installed?
[00:59] <tsimonq2> !broadcom
[00:59] <tsimonq2> Maybe? :)
[01:18] <titan914> tsimonq2: lspci i dont have lspci and the drivers need dependencies to install. Not sure how to go about downloading them on this computer and installing them on the lubuntu.
[01:22] <tsimonq2> titan914: What system are you on now?
[01:29] <Bman_> how do I acess keybord shortcuts?
[01:31] <tsimonq2> I guess Bman_ figured it out...
[01:32] <titan914> tsimonq2: I'm on a windows 10 box at the moment.
[01:34] <tsimonq2> titan914: Ok, what kind of dependencies does it need to install?
[01:35] <titan914> tsimonq2: GCC is one for the Braodcom drivers that are on the ubuntu 16.04 boot disk.
[01:35] <titan914> tsimonq2: Trying "sudo dkps -i *.deb"
[01:35] <titan914> On the drivers.
[01:37] <tsimonq2> titan914: What you can do is go to packages.ubuntu.com, download the deb files for each package onto a flash drive, put it in the computer, mount the drive, and run `sudo apt install ./*.deb` in the directory that has your deb files.
[01:38] <titan914> tsimonq2: Awesome, thank you.
[01:41] <tsimonq2> titan914: You're welcome. :)
[01:51] <titan914> tsimonq2: So downloaded the GCC package and I cannot install the GCC package because I need the GCC package to install the GCC package. T_T
[02:13] <tsimonq2> titan914: You have an exact error?
[03:01] <hatchet> any simple solutions to disable touchpad tap to click?
[09:02] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> howdy
[09:02] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> is there any better monitor manager than lxrandr?
[09:02] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> that offers necessary settings
[09:04] <leszek> Shawn|i7-Q720M: you can try arandr
[09:04] <leszek> it has the better UI imho. Though technically both are based on randr protocol so don't expect it to have tons of differences in terms of resolutions available or such
[09:05] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> well I am looking for a gui to control xrandr's overscan and underscan stuff
[09:18] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> no overscan settings in arandr?
[09:27] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> is there an overscan gui?
[09:40] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm not finding any underscan fixes for lubuntu s-video output
[10:34] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> if only resizing s-video would be easy
[10:38] <leszek> I don't think there is a gui for this
[10:39] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> why hasn't anyone implemented such :(
[10:40] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I want to elimiate the huge black border around my desktop on this analog 9" crt
[10:41] <hateball> I imagine not too many still use s-video and/or 9" CRTs, hence the lack of such a GUI
[10:42] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ah
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> is there a transform helper?
[10:44] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> for xrandr
[10:45] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I'm sure there are some people who still use analog CRTs
[10:51] <hateball> Yep, probably not too many using it in combination with s-video is my guess tho
[10:51] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ah
[10:51] <hateball> That said, it's probably fixable, I just... have no idea
[10:51] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I like that this laptop can output s-video
[10:52] <hateball> what gpu/driver is it? intel?
[10:53] <hateball> Shawn|i7-Q720M: a googling gives this https://newagesoldier.com/linux-hdmi-resize-screen-overscan-fix-ubuntu/
[10:54] <hateball> dunno if it's applicable to your situation
[10:54] <shawn|iCenD> heres this laptop's xrandr output https://hastebin.com/iremiqidin
[10:55] <shawn|iCenD> no overscan command for svideo
[10:55] <shawn|iCenD> thought I can try that
[10:55] <shawn|iCenD> I did come across that, but left it
[10:57] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> didn't really do anything
[10:59] <hateball> Shawn|i7-Q720M: You may have better luck asking in a more general channel, like #ubuntu or even #linux
[11:00] <hateball> Shawn|i7-Q720M: More active users and all that, since it's not really distro-specific
[11:00] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ah
[11:00] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> why is your name hateball?
[11:02] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> well, heres a picture https://s25.postimg.org/hns4fg6in/IMGP2254.jpg
[11:03] <hateball> Shawn|i7-Q720M: It is one of the secrets of this universe
[11:03] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ah
[11:03] <hateball> Yeah I understand the problem, it's just I havent used S-video in a decade+
[11:03] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I was wondering if it was aimed toward "ball" a fellow irc user
[11:04] <hateball> It's just a handle
[11:04] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> ah
[11:04] <hateball> A lovehandle
[11:04] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> lol
[11:04] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> love certainly does not mean hate
[11:18] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> stinkin arandr is causing window bleed between both displays
[11:38] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> not very many seem to be familiar with s-video
[11:48] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> arandr on lubuntu seems screwed up
[11:49] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> I put them side by side, and my CRT is getting window bleed, and wont go full screen
[11:49] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> from a window on the LVDS display
[11:49] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> picture quality on the crt itself is fine
[12:00] <kranthi_> hi
[12:01] <kranthi_> anybody knows how I can enable compiz in lxde
[12:04] <leszek> kranthi_: install it and run it with compiz --replace
[12:06] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> hateball, I just did some testing with --transform, and it does not affect the black borders
[12:10] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> no matter the munber I touch, the black borders remain
[12:41] <LioneLL> Hi, how "put an image on desktop background" with right clic in Firefox/Lubuntu 14.04 ? pls
[14:22] <kranthi_> .
[14:31] <problem> hi my mouse cursor moves but won't click on anything i can use the keyboard .. the cursor has a hand icon and little chain links it happended as i was dragging a file from a zip archive to a folder
[14:32] <problem> using the latest version of lubuntu
[14:32] <problem> do I have to reisub?
[14:33] <problem> everything else seems to be working fine but I don't really know how to navigate with the keyboard to restart
[14:35] <problem> hello?
[14:38] <problem> help!
[14:41] <problem> i think its stuck on the grabbing icong
[14:41] <problem> because the cursor hand a closed hand like a fist
[14:45] <problem> looks similar to this
[14:45] <problem> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000507
[14:45] <problem> i think i will reisub
[14:45] <problem> except i don't have firefox open
[14:55] <problem> oh well i did a shutdown but it looks like its a bug
[14:56] <problem> cya
[15:26] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> why doesn't xvidtune changes work?
[15:27] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> whenever I try to make changes, it gives me that mode line error
[16:06] <avid> hey
[16:07] <avid> i've installed lubuntu today :)
[19:16] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> https://s25.postimg.org/hfhz5ltkv/IMGP2281.jpg
[19:16] <Shawn|i7-Q720M> the image is so small
[19:23] <Justin__> Stupid install question:   I downloaded lubuntu 17.04 and burned the .iso to a DVD rom.   On the PC I am trying to install too.   I switched boot sequence to DC/DVDrom first, but it is not booting off DVDROM.  Instead it goes into my older existing ubuntu.   Is there a way I can install without booting, and instead, get into existing ubuntu OS and from there run and install the lubunu iso burned on DVD ROM?
[19:24] <xangua> Justin__: did you burn it as image or file?
[19:24] <wxl> Justin__: i'd double check the install. i'm sure if you made it so that it ONLY booted to cd/dvd, it would fail.
[19:24] <wxl> s/install/image/
[19:26] <Justin__> I downloaded and burned the image from a macbook.  I just right clicked the downloaded file and selected burn to disk.   I imagine that is not the right way to do it
[19:34] <gregk> hello!  I'm hoping someone here will be kind enough to answer my questions
[19:36] <gregk> 1- lubuntu is a "lighter ubuntu" for older, less capable machines like my dad's old P4 1ghz that struggles with windows xp?
[19:37] <gregk> 2- lubuntu can be tried before installation, like the progenitor, from an ISO on a USB key?
[19:39] <krytarik> gregk: Yes, yes. :)
[19:40] <gregk> so I've DL'd the 32bit ISO; all I need to do is use rufus to make a bootable key and get to it?
[19:41] <krytarik> Yeah, or any other tool that works.
[19:42] <gregk> I'm reading the wiki...this seems too good to be true.  Dad'll stop calling for tech support I hope...once he wraps his head around it
[19:43] <gregk> awesome, thank you!  you'll make a man who doesn't like to spend $ on "new" very happy
[20:27] <gregk> oh yeah, it should be much<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with 2GB Ram


[00:03] <mallu0987> hello.. anyone here?
[00:06] <mallu0987> nobody?!!
[00:22] <mallu0987> anyone here?
[00:25] <kse> hello there mallu0987
[00:29] <mallu0987> kse: I'm trying to grow root partition. I added growpart:
[00:29] <mallu0987>   mode: auto
[00:29] <mallu0987>   devices: ['/']
[00:29] <mallu0987>   ignore_growroot_disabled: false
[00:29] <mallu0987>   resize_rootfs: True
[00:29] <mallu0987> in cloud.cfg
[00:29] <mallu0987> restarted the instance then took an AMI
[00:30] <mallu0987> any instance that is created via the AMI is not getting resized
[00:30] <mallu0987> but it will resize after I reboot the instance
[00:42] <kse> mallu0987 : Is there `/etc/growroot-disabled"` ?
[05:06] <mallu0987> anyone here?
[17:51] <minfrin> Hi all. Is there a mechanism by which cloud-init can patch itself early on during the boot process?
[17:51] <minfrin> The problem I am trying to solve is that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1523921 remains broken on Ubuntu 14.04, and I am trying to work around it somehow.


[13:40] <rick_h> morning
[13:51] <cmaloney> morning
[13:51] <cmaloney> how's the day so far?
[13:52] <cmaloney> From the spam files: kindly advise which seafood product do you  offer?
[14:24] <_stink_> haha
[16:53] <jrwren> so good.
[16:54] <jrwren> got lilly a really nice bike for her birthday.
[16:54] <jrwren> <3 craigslist.
[16:54] <jrwren> bike looks brand new. Seller said that his son only ride it 3 times.
[16:54] <jrwren> Soooo happy to get a bike at half price.
[16:55] <jrwren> and the kid loves it.
[17:04] <cmaloney> nice!


[01:51] <pizzledizzle> i have a mce remote that acts as a keyboard. is there a way to remap buttons on a specific input device?
[07:13] <wombo_> I have just rebuilt my system as I stuffed up the tuners, I am running trunk.
[07:14] <wombo_> I have tried to do a scan to pickup all my channels but it is seg faulting
[07:14] <wombo_> I will post up the message in a sec
[07:15] <wombo_> http://pastebin.com/m5d57db7f
[07:15] <wombo_> It is trying to use a Dvico Dual Digital 4
[16:28] <williammanda> tgm4883, u round?
[16:45] <hexa-> hello
[16:45] <hexa-> i actually need some help - http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1a5ca2c5
[16:45] <hexa-> i cannot play back video
[17:08] <hexa-> basically i get this error:
[17:08] <hexa-> 2009-05-30 18:07:05.209 Preview Error: Previewer file '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1012_20090530180701.mpg' is not valid.
[17:08] <hexa-> 2009-05-30 18:07:05.211 Preview Error: Run() file not local: '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1012_20090530180701.mpg'
[17:08] <hexa-> 2009-05-30 18:07:05.225 Preview Error: Preview process not ok.
[17:09] <hexa-> 			fileinfo(/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1012_20090530180701.mpg.png) exists: 0 readable: 0 size: 0
[17:15] <hexa-> EIT is working over mythweb
[17:34] <hexa> hm
[17:41] <hexa> anybody?
[17:48] <gbee> superm1: do you have a patched package radeonhd? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/341898
[17:51] <williammanda> hexa you'll need to try back later
[17:51] <hexa> i suppose so
[17:55] <gizmobay> I need to create a file with the touch command on boot with the user login. What file can I put the touch command in to make this work?
[19:45] <gbee> gizmobay: .xinitrc maybe?
[22:16] <hexa> anybody around?
[23:22] <superm1> well if gbee comes back, no i dont have it patched
[23:22] <superm1> upstream didn't agree with the fix
[23:54] <MythbuntuGuest70> !help
[23:54] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].


[19:41] <subhranshu> Hello Everyone...
[19:42] <subhranshu> I am trying to Deply MAAS and Juju base Openstack cluster on a 28 node infrastructure...
[19:42] <subhranshu> Need Help
[19:43] <subhranshu> Is it a right place to talk aout it
[19:44] <subhranshu> about it>


[02:37] <nigelb> mornin
[05:52] <duanedesign> /1/4
[05:54] <nigelb> duanedesign: 0.25 :P
[05:56] <duanedesign> :)
[05:56] <duanedesign> I am sooooo bad about that
[05:56] <nigelb> yeah, I wrose
[05:56] <duanedesign> i do that at least twice a day
[05:56] <duanedesign> or
[05:56] <nigelb> I once interrupted a cc or dmb meeting
[05:56] <duanedesign> .33
[05:56] <duanedesign> haha
[05:56] <nigelb> I genearlly get g33 because I forget to press ctrl + g
[05:57] <duanedesign> sorry i dropped out of our conversatipon yesterday
[05:58] <duanedesign> i had a problem with a patch submitted by a project contributor. Then i also had another dev FG mentee wanting a merge proposal done :P
[05:58] <duanedesign> we are getting a bunch of people interested in develplop
[05:59] <duanedesign> ment. Really need to get better organized on our processes for the Dev FG in Beginners Team
[06:00] <duanedesign> I think that could help us handle more people, easier
[07:01] <duanedesign> nigelb: you know who jsjgruber is?
[08:03] <kim0> Morning o/
[08:03] <nigelb> duanedesign: nope
[08:04] <nigelb> hola kim0 ::)
[08:05] <kim0> nigelb: hey man  :)
[08:07] <duanedesign> nigelb: kk. was just testing a bug fix proposed for Lernid
[08:08] <duanedesign> brb, reboot
[08:14] <kim0> Daviey: shall we edit your session to be called puppet ?
[08:14] <kim0> nigelb: say that here :)
[08:14] <nigelb> kim0: I guess Daviey's mind needs some make up :P
[08:14] <nigelb> (still)
[08:14] <nigelb> kim0: :D
[08:14] <kim0> hehe lol .. yeah
[08:14] <kim0> I think he's going with puppet
[08:14] <kim0> but I guess he's not awake yet
[08:14] <kim0> nigelb: He's all yours once he's up :D
[08:15] <nigelb> 8:15 might be too early for the kind of bed times we all maintain :P
[08:15] <kim0> hehe :)
[08:16] <kim0> I've been planning on waking up at 6:00 for about a year now .. still not able to pull that off
[08:16] <nigelb> I've given up on anthing before 7.
[08:17] <nigelb> Can't sleep at 2 and wake before 7, no point.
[08:17] <nigelb> kim0: Calender updated (http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html)
[08:17] <kim0> woohoo :)
[08:21] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <kim0> dholbach: morning
[08:24] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:24] <kim0> hey :0
[08:24] <kim0> oh little short on the shift key :)
[08:24] <duanedesign> this branch fixes lernid so it runs on Natty. FWIW lp:~jsjgruber/lernid/lernid.fix716937
[08:25] <nigelb> ahoy dholbach :)
[08:26] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:26] <nigelb> duanedesign: sadly, the last 2 commits have been from jorge, not fromthe actual maintainer :|
[08:27] <nigelb> hey dpm :)
[08:27] <dpm> hey nigelb
[08:27] <dpm> hey all, good morning!
[08:32] <kim0> dpm: howdy :)
[08:34] <dpm> hey kim0!
[09:00] <duanedesign> dholbach: ping
[09:02] <dholbach> duanedesign, pong
[09:02] <duanedesign> hello dholbach
[09:02] <dholbach> heya
[09:02] <duanedesign> dholbach: had a question
[09:02] <dholbach> sure
[09:02] <duanedesign> dholbach: trying to help someone in #ubuntu-app-devel.
[09:03] <duanedesign> Hi! I'm one of the developers of EdytorNC-program. We'd like to get it included in Ubuntu. In packaging guidelines there are instructions to package  upstream source release, but is it ok to add packaging information to source release itself?
[09:03] <dholbach> it's not necessary
[09:03] <dholbach> it's better to do that just in the distro
[09:03] <duanedesign> i was not sure what the status quo was
[09:03] <duanedesign> okies
[09:03] <dholbach> as it easily gets out of sync
[09:03] <dholbach> better not bother :)
[09:03] <duanedesign> great! thank you
[09:03] <dholbach> no worries
[09:23] <huats> morning everyone !
[10:06] <dholbach> party! it's ara's birthday!
[10:07] <nigelb> oh, ara: HAPPY BIRTHDAY :)
[10:08] <Pendulum> happy birthday ara!
[10:16] <ara> thanks all!
[11:07] <duanedesign> ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪  happy birthday ara ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪
[11:08] <ara> duanedesign, thanks :)
[11:08] <duanedesign> :) I heep those notes in a tomboy note for just such occasions :)
[11:08] <popey> hahah
[11:08] <popey> i often wonder how people pluck these random Unicode chars out
[11:09] <duanedesign> what is funny nhandler has a script that reads highlights in irc. So it kind of sung it to him
[11:09] <popey> well, not often :)
[11:10] <duanedesign> Pendulum: hello. you have a second?
[11:10] <Pendulum> duanedesign: sure
[11:11] <kim0> ara: oh Happy B-day :)
[14:17] <jcastro> JFo: bring your knife
[14:18]  * JFo gets his knife
[14:20] <mhall119> that sounds like trouble
[14:21] <Pendulum> that sounds like fun
[14:21] <JFo> heh
[14:21] <mhall119> you have an interesting definition of 'fun'
[14:22] <mhall119> oddly, when I read that, I instantly pictured JFo giving himself a haircut with the knife
[14:23] <JFo> hah!
[14:23] <JFo> I do keep em sharp
[15:02] <jono> dpm, about ready?
[15:02] <dpm> jono, all set
[15:07] <dpm> jono, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[15:12] <dpm> jono_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[16:00] <Technoviking> popey: what was that vnc type screen viewing software you were using for support awhile back?
[16:06] <popey> Technoviking: vnc :)
[16:07] <popey> Technoviking: i have setup ssh keys to my mums house, so there is no vnc exposed to the world
[16:07] <popey> I just typed this:-
[16:07] <popey> vncviewer -via mumspubliciphostnamething localhost
[16:07] <popey> that ssh's to my mums box and a vnc window appears
[16:07] <popey> MAGIC!
[16:13] <popey> (the -via uses ssh)
[16:16] <Technoviking> popey: thought there are a different remote viewer you were using
[16:17] <popey> i use that one mostly
[16:30] <jcastro> cjohnston: where's that bug you filed about not showing partitions on the launcher?
[16:32] <cjohnston> someone duped it
[16:32] <cjohnston> one sec
[16:34] <cjohnston> compiz hasnt been playing well with me the last few days
[16:35] <jcastro> it was hell all weekend or me
[16:37] <cjohnston> im still having issues today
[16:38] <cjohnston> bug 711033
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 711033 in unity "Add the ability to remove mounted drives from the Unity launcher (dup-of: 713423)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711033
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713423 in unity "Unity launcher gets cluttered when having multiple partitions and/or external volumes attached" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713423
[16:40] <cjohnston> just crashed again
[16:41] <jcastro> 2d ftw.
[16:42] <cjohnston> lol
[16:42] <cjohnston> how do i switch
[16:43] <popey> cjohnston: http://popey.me/haHkMc
[16:43] <popey> :)
[16:45] <cjohnston> cool
[16:51] <cjohnston> 2d not as pretty
[16:51] <cjohnston> lol
[16:52] <popey> :)
[16:52] <popey> fancy that!
[17:58] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:58] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:58] <popey> o/
[17:58]  * popey tickles dholbach
[17:58]  * dholbach hugs you all
[18:59] <jcastro> jono: got a sec for WP help?
[19:00] <jcastro> it is totally nonobvious to me how to change the Schedule link to the right one on uds.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <jcastro> jono: nevermind, found it!
[19:02] <jcastro> had to create a new menu thing
[19:03] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[19:03] <jcastro> still, nonobvious!
[19:08] <Technoviking> UDS blueprints are open
[19:08] <Technoviking> Are UDS blueprints open (sorry 5th hour of meetings, getting loopy)?
[19:18] <jcastro> I don't think they're ever really closed
[19:18] <jcastro> I think you can just submit
[19:18] <jcastro> jono: vandine has packaged that lens, any chance you're on amd64?
[19:21] <jono> jcastro, cool - nope, on x86
[19:21] <jcastro> k I might have a PPA for you later
[19:25] <jono> :-)
[19:30] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:33] <czajkowski> why after being up for 30 hours straight can I not sleep for more than 3 hours :(
[19:39] <czajkowski> does unity just lock up for anyone else for no reason what so ever
[19:39] <paultag> *cough* fluxbox *cough*
[19:42] <czajkowski> third time today I've had to hard reboot and always different things running :(
[19:57] <jcastro> can anyone get to omgubuntu.co.uk?
[19:59] <czajkowski> I tend to avoid any site with omgubuntu but will check jcastro
[19:59] <jcastro> hah
[19:59] <czajkowski> jcastro: seems to be rather slow
[19:59] <czajkowski> nope nothing loaded
[20:09] <IdleOne> not loading here either
[20:09] <IdleOne> oh wait
[20:09] <IdleOne> yes
[20:09] <IdleOne> slow but it loaded
[20:37] <mhall119> czajkowski: unity does that on eme
[20:37] <mhall119> on me
[20:37] <mhall119> jcastro: why the name change from places to lenses?
[20:37] <jcastro> no clue
[20:38] <mhall119> not that I think it's bad, just wondering why
[20:39] <mhall119> I'm still trying to think of a useful place/lense
[20:48] <jcastro> mhall119: dude, google docs!
[20:48] <jcastro> launchpad!
[20:51] <jcastro> mhall119: and I've sorted out how to package via kenvandine, so I can ppa up python places
[20:53] <mhall119> google docs I can see
[20:53] <mhall119> not sure on launchpad
[20:53] <jcastro> yeah, if you want to do one that people will use, docs ftw.
[22:44] <nigelb> Hello 4 am, nice to see you from this end
[22:44] <nigelb> Morning btw
[22:46] <jcastro> jono: ALRIGHT. Ready to try this badboy?
[22:46] <jcastro> who else is on 11.04?
[22:46] <jono> jcastro, sure
[22:47] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~askubuntu-tools/+archive/ppa/
[22:47] <jcastro> add the ppa, install it
[22:47] <nigelb> oh,neat!
[22:47] <jcastro> and then either logout or restart unity with a "unity --replace" in the terminal
[22:48] <jcastro> jono: you'll need to be up to date, there was a libdee update today we need
[22:50] <jono> jcastro, I upgraded today
[22:50] <jcastro> good, you should be fine
[22:51] <jcastro> jono: when you restart unity you should see the icon on your launcher
[22:55] <jono> jcastro, what package to install?
[22:56] <jcastro> unity-place-askubuntu
[22:56] <jcastro> jono: ^
[22:57] <jono> ok brb
[22:59] <jcastro> .... and ... ?
[22:59]  * jcastro drum rolls
[23:00] <jono> jcastro, doesnt work
[23:00]  * jcastro points head into the wall
[23:00] <jono> brb
[23:07] <jono> sorry jcastro, no luck here
[23:07] <jcastro> ugh so close
[23:07] <jcastro> I can feel it
[23:07] <jcastro> ok, ken's EODed and this is beyond my skill level
[23:07] <jcastro> I guess tomorrow will be the day
[23:08] <jcastro> jono: can you try one thing for me
[23:08] <jcastro> go into /usr/share/unity/places
[23:08] <jcastro> and do a ./unity-askubuntu-daemon
[23:08] <jcastro> and tell me what happens
[23:09] <jcastro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584030/
[23:09] <jono> it isnt in there jcastro
[23:09] <jcastro> tell me if you see that
[23:09] <jono> I see askubuntu.place
[23:09] <jcastro> what's in there? anything related to the place?
[23:09] <jcastro> but not daemon thing?
[23:10] <jono> nope
[23:10] <jcastro> ok, that's a packaging bug. Whew.
[23:10] <jcastro> at least it's not my fault.
[23:10] <jono> np
[23:10] <jcastro> I'll ask ken to check it tomorrow
[23:10] <jono> why would it be your fault?
[23:10] <jcastro> I'm doing the recipe and stuff
[23:10] <jcastro> and he "dbussed" it basically
[23:10] <jcastro> the first cut you had to run the place by hand
[23:10] <jcastro> now it does like dbus activation or something
[23:11] <jcastro> so that it just runs when unity runs instead of you having to manually run the place
[23:11] <jcastro> which is handy when you're messing with it, but not friendly when you want users to mess with it
[23:31] <jono> cool
[23:32] <nigelb> jcastro: I could use some help :)
[23:33] <nigelb> with spreading the word out for the UGJ series of classroom sessions
[23:33] <nigelb> so far, I'm short of 1 instructor and 1 confirmation, I'll put up a post after I get those two.
[23:58] <nigelb> uhm, all confirmed :)


[07:29] <Dorian42>  I have a question for you folks out there...
[07:30] <Dorian42>  If I've created a banner for Xubuntu to promote it, who do I speak to in order to turn it over to the team here?
[07:38] <Dorian42>  ...Okay... Found it... Thanks anyways folks.  Sorry to trouble you.
[09:58] <nysosym> hi there
[01:23] <highvoltage> hi!
[01:24] <highvoltage> I'm struggling changing the gnome main menu icon in Feisty
[01:24] <highvoltage> how did you guys set it? I tried everything from manually replacing icons to changing gconf keys, and it just stays the same :)
[01:29] <kwwii> which icon do you mean?
[01:29] <kwwii> the one in the menu
[01:29] <kwwii> now I see...let me figure it out and I will tell you :-)
[01:31] <kwwii> is it perhaps humanIcons/22x22/places/start-here.png
[01:31] <kwwii> ?
[01:32] <andreasn> I think gnome-main-menu use  device-computer
[01:36] <highvoltage> andreasn: no, not gnome-main-menu (as in suse slab), standard ubuntu gnome main menu bar
[01:36] <highvoltage> kwwii: I've replaced it and it sill gives me the standard ubuntu logo
[01:37] <highvoltage> kwwii: I'm at the stage where I've just about replaced ever start-here.png on the system, and it still shows the old icon :(
[01:37] <kwwii> lol
[01:37] <kwwii> it must be hardcoded then
[01:38] <andreasn> highvoltage: what about distributor-logo?
[01:38] <andreasn> there is also a icon called gnome-main-menu
[01:39] <kwwii> hehe, that would make sense
[01:39] <andreasn> tangerine-icon-theme manages to replace the default one
[01:39] <andreasn> check /usr/share/icons/Tangerine/22x22/places
[01:40] <highvoltage> andreasn: distributor-logo is symlinked to start-here.png
[01:41] <highvoltage> andreasn: gnome-main-menu is /also/ symlined to start-here.png :)
[01:41] <highvoltage> oddly enough, I've replaced every start-here.png on the system, and it still shows the ubuntu logo
[01:52] <kwwii> highvoltage: have you tried simply adding the icon you want as distributor-logo (so, no symlink)
[02:03] <kwwii> highvoltage: naturally, I assume you are rebuilding the icon cache or restarting the computer after changing the icon?
[02:04] <highvoltage> kwwii: hmm.. not really. how do I rebuild the icon cache?
[02:05] <highvoltage> gtk-update-icon-cache -q ?
[02:10] <kwwii> I can't remember...I think you have to do it for each theme though
[02:11] <kwwii> sudo gtk-update-icon-cache on the theme dir you changed
[02:11] <kwwii> sudo touch the dir first
[02:28] <highvoltage> kwwii: that did the trick :-D
[02:28] <highvoltage> kwwii: thanks a billion
[02:28] <kwwii> highvoltage: no problem, glad to be of help
[07:41] <meatballhat> troy_s: ping!
[07:41] <troy_s> greets
[07:41] <troy_s> how goes it Dan?
[07:43] <meatballhat> it could go better ;-)  ....  had a chance to peep at MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite/DesignSpec yet?   (it is definitely NOT done)
[11:06] <pochu> heya all! I'm an administrator of the iso-testing team, and we were thinking in setting up some new branding in it :)
[11:06] <troy_s> interesting
[11:06] <troy_s> pochu what are your thoughts?
[11:06] <pochu> this is the page: https://launchpad.net/~isotesting
[11:07] <pochu> well, we were talking about it the other day
[11:07] <pochu> and we thought some things:
[11:07] <pochu> burn, because we burn cd's to test the isos :)
[11:07] <pochu> glasses, because we check carefully the images looking for bugs...
[11:07] <pochu> of course cd's :)
[11:08] <troy_s> are you looking for an identity logo or some other presence?
[11:08] <pochu> yeah, a logo which identifies the team is what we're looking for
[11:09] <pochu> and since nobody in the team is an artist... :)
[11:09] <pochu> I'm asking for your suggestions :)
[11:09] <troy_s> is henrik pointman for it?
[11:10] <pochu> he's the main admin
[11:10] <troy_s> the fellow who should have the bits shipped to him
[11:10] <troy_s> iso testing eh?  something to connote testing  to the launchpad userbase?
[11:10] <pochu> troy_s: but I'm also an admin, so you can send them to me
[11:10] <pochu> or to both :)
[11:11] <troy_s> aight... hit me with an email -- troy dot sobotka at gmail dot comsite
[11:11] <pochu> we don't have a ML yet :/
[11:11] <pochu> ok, gonna do :)
[11:13] <pochu> troy_s: do I CC the ubuntu-art ML?
[11:14] <troy_s> up to you
[11:15] <troy_s> pochu: It is entirely as you feel... you can expect more penetration with the mailing list.
[11:18] <pochu> I think I'll CC it, so the other members in the ISO team can follow up
[11:18] <pochu> and of course other members of the list can contribute :)
[11:19] <troy_s> hopefully ;)
[11:19] <troy_s> again, i have fluxwork and some polishing for us to finish up here and there
[11:19] <troy_s> so i am a little busy
[11:19] <troy_s> but i will most certainly try for a new identity logo
[11:20] <troy_s> pochu: Just the identity though correct?  This won't expand further than the identity logo?
[11:20] <pochu> sorry, can you rephrase?
[11:20] <pochu> I'm not english, and don't understand your last sentence :/
[11:20] <troy_s> pochu: There isn't a website etc... just a single log?
[11:20] <troy_s> logo
[11:20] <troy_s> grr.
[11:20] <pochu> yes :)
[11:20] <troy_s> only the logo
[11:20] <troy_s> ok...
[11:21] <troy_s> you are lucky to have omma on the team
[11:21] <pochu> I'll explain in the mail. Just writing :)
[11:21] <troy_s> he is a top notch guy
[11:21] <pochu> yeah, and he coordinates very well! :)
[11:25] <pochu> troy_s: sent :)
[11:42] <troy_s> pochu: I see.
[11:42] <troy_s> :)
[11:44] <pochu> :-)


[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1481633008008445953
 starting builds :D
[14:37]  * mamarley excited.
[14:38] <BluesKaj> RikMills, does 5.23.5 = 5.24?
[14:39] <RikMills> no. this is the 5.24 beta
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:40] <RikMills> so 5.23.90
[15:01]  * BluesKaj nods
[15:54] <mparillo> So it should be in plenty of time for JJ. Will 5.24 be an LTS?
[15:56] <mparillo> Not mentioned in https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.23.90/ but ISTR a request (I think from both Kubuntu and S.u.S.E.)
[15:57] <RikMills> mparillo: I want to it to be an LTS, but some plasma devs are not keen to do it
[15:57] <RikMills> we will just have to see
[15:59] <mparillo> TY. I would hope the last 5.x before 6.0 would be an LTS. Not for myself, but for normal users. I know qutebrowser has been working on supporting Qt 6.


[11:48] <jaddi27> head_victim, You are continuing on the Member Board, aren't you?
[11:58] <head_victim> jaddi27: hoping to
[11:58] <jaddi27> oh, so are you one of the 10 people whose terms are expiring?
[11:58] <head_victim> Nope, but the meeting times/dates will change
[11:59] <head_victim> So as long as it still works out on a day that I can make should be ok
[11:59] <jaddi27> Ok. I just saw the email with the details,  so wanted to check
[11:59] <jaddi27> 10pm and 8am for us, by the look of it
[11:59] <head_victim> Yeah cool :) It's going to be, yeah was just going to say ;)
[12:00] <jaddi27> That will be a bit easier - more regular and easier access for more people
[12:01] <head_victim> Yeah, they're saying twice a month for both so there will actually technically be more meetings a month (four) that previous (three)
[12:02] <jaddi27> Yes, that should be good
[12:02] <jaddi27> Which time would you be asking for? The 10pm one?
[12:07] <head_victim> Yeah that's the one I've asked to be on
[12:07] <head_victim> Just so long as it doesn't end up on a Sunday or something silly it shouldn't be a problem
[12:10] <jaddi27> Doing it on a Sunday would be inconvenient in most places of the world, so hopefully any other day is selected
[13:00] <jaddi27> head_victim, You might be interested to know I set up https://www.facebook.com/ubuntuau to mirror our twitter feed, which makes it easier to update
[13:00] <head_victim> Oh sweet, we can't make it work for the group as well I assume?
[13:01] <jaddi27> I might be able to set it up - let me check
[13:01] <head_victim> Actually, probably better not to
[13:01] <head_victim> Leave the group for the discussion and the account for the feed.
[13:01] <head_victim> That way we don't spam everyone everything unless they want it?
[13:03] <head_victim> Maybe just a post to the FB group to say they can follow team communication at the account? Happy to take input though, FB still is a bit foreign to me.
[13:04] <head_victim> Oh and good news, the team CDs arrived today
[13:05] <jaddi27> I agree with that setup - I will post a link to the page in the group to let everyone know
[13:05] <jaddi27> And good to hear about the CDs - just have to use them now
[13:05] <jaddi27> how many/what did you get?
[13:05] <head_victim> Yep, post to the ML done
[13:05] <head_victim> I believe it's in the vicinity of 200 Ubuntu CDs and 50 Server CDs
[13:06] <head_victim> All 32 Bit
[13:11] <jaddi27> That is a lot more than I expected. 32bit is not surprising, because they decided to use 32bit as the recommended version for 12.04
[13:14] <head_victim> Yeah, I'm hoping they can be used at events and handouts to get people using them.
[13:14] <head_victim> Don't want them sitting around my place to get old :)
[13:16] <jaddi27> No, can understand that. I will try to get my event organised in time to use some
[13:17] <head_victim> Good stuff :) I'm happy to post them out just not individually otherwise it gets too expensive.
[13:17] <sagaci> it says seven years of support in the server cd cases
[13:18] <jaddi27> Trying to outlast windows server...?
[20:46] <xannen01> does anyone want to buy an old hp tc4200 tablet pc?  :D
[23:43] <gin> Hello
[23:43] <gin>  Is anyone ready to help me out??...
[23:47] <benonsoftware> gin: Yes?


[04:06] <LimCore>  I sent a patch to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kerneltop/+bug/486218  please confirm and apply it
[07:57] <alkisg> dh_installdebconf adds a call to db_purge on my postrm script, which fails! How could I debug this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/338512/
[08:00] <alkisg> Here's the apt-get purge output with DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338515/
[08:00] <alkisg> "subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 128 "
[08:32] <dholbach> good morning
[08:34] <Quintasan|Szel> hiho
[08:34] <dholbach> hi Quintasan|Szel
[08:36] <Quintasan|Szel> how nice, 11 people form my class and 17 teachers are absent due to illness :/
[08:39] <Quintasan|Szel> dholbach: btw, how many people from MOTU Council are needed on this adhoc meeting?
[08:40] <dholbach> Quintasan|Szel: we're 7 in total, so to make a decision it needs to be 4
[08:40] <dholbach> simple majority
[08:40] <nigel_nb> good morning dholbach :)
[08:41] <dholbach> hi nigel_nb
[08:41] <nigel_nb> :)
[08:42] <alkisg> Bah, I found the problem, I had to redirect file descriptors on "service ssh force-reload" :(
[10:00] <DktrKranz> dholbach: hi! I remember you once created a script to unsubscribe bugs from sponsors' queue and subscribing ubuntu-archive, is it still available online?
[10:02] <dholbach> DktrKranz: yes, but it used python-launchpad-bugs and that's not going to work any more
[10:02] <dholbach> DktrKranz: should be easy to rewrite using python-launchpadlib
[10:02] <DktrKranz> it probably will
[10:06] <geser> DktrKranz: I've a similar script to ack syncs. If you remove the ACK part you should have your script.
[10:07] <dholbach> ubuntu-dev-tools? :)
[10:07] <geser> when I've time to polish it up (add some error checking)
[10:08] <DktrKranz> geser: if you have something already, it could be nice (and will speed up things :)
[10:11] <geser> DktrKranz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338573/ it should be easy to remove the unneeded parts (like adding bug comment)
[10:15] <DktrKranz> geser: thanks.
[13:43] <blackxored> hello motus
[13:43] <blackxored> I'm about to upload an azureus revision for new upstream into ubuntu, but I had to diverge since 3.0 format isn't in lucid yet, so you think is ok to upload this merge, otherwise it would be a sync eventually
[14:13] <alkisg> Is there a list of valid db_capb parameters somewhere? E.g. I'd like to enable "cancel", but not "backup", is that possible?
[14:14] <persia> blackxored: If it must diverge, it's fine to upload as a merge.  If you can sync, than it's better to do so.
[14:14] <blackxored> persia, I can't sync since 3.0 format isn't supported yet
[14:15] <persia> Right, so it's fine to upload as a merge :)
[14:15]  * persia is permanently set on extra-verbose, so some messages may end up carrying more information than is strictly necessary
[14:17] <highvoltage> I like persia on extra-verbose.
[14:35] <cjwatson> alkisg: the presence of the cancel button is controlled by whether the backup capability is set
[14:35] <slytherin> ttx: in case you plan to file any sync requests, please file one for jug as well. :-)
[14:35] <alkisg> Thank you cjwatson, so I'll enable the backup capability :)
[14:36] <ttx> slytherin: heh
[14:36] <slytherin> ttx: I may not boot into Ubuntu today at home so informed you.
[14:38] <cjwatson> alkisg: I'm not sure there's a list anywhere, sorry, but 'backup' and 'escape' are the only two that can usefully be set by a debconf client (and also 'align' and 'progresscancel' if cdebconf is involved, but at the moment this is only relevant to installer hackers)
[14:39] <alkisg> Well, being new to debconf, I guess "backup" will be just fine for me :) Thanks again.
[14:40] <slytherin> Are we not syncing packages in source format 3?
[14:42] <Laney> nope
[14:44] <slytherin> Laney: is this announced anywhere?
[14:45] <Laney> I don't think so, it's just that LP can't handle them yet
[14:45] <Laney> it will catch up soon
[14:45] <slytherin> Laney: Soon as in this release cycle?
[14:47] <james_w> slytherin: soon as in next week AIUI
[14:47] <Laney> slytherin: AFAIK (see wgrant@#ubuntu-devel a few minutes ago)
[14:47] <MTecknology> How can I see what package installed a certain app?
[14:47] <Laney> dpkg -S
[14:47] <MTecknology> thanks
[14:47] <Laney> dlocate
[14:47] <Laney> apt-file
[14:47] <Laney> :)
[14:48] <bddebian> Heya gang
[14:58] <MTecknology> Is there any easy way to remove all the packages I installed for mesing with packages? I want to move everything from my primary system into a vm
[15:00] <MTecknology> I think I have most of them - just nice to know I don't have any extras
[15:41] <alkisg> I'm storing a public ssh key in a debconf "string" type, is that acceptable? Or I'd be violating length/LF issues?
[15:50] <blackxored> someone can help me to setup custom from in gmail for @ubuntu.com
[15:50] <blackxored> ?
[17:10] <cornucopic> Hi all
[17:10] <cornucopic> is there a switch for 'apt-cache' so that It shows me only 'ARCH=All' packages?
[17:13] <persia> cornucopic: You might be looking for grep-dctrl, but perhaps not.
[17:14] <cornucopic> persia, ah. from the name of it, i think it might just help me! Thanks. looking..
[17:14] <persia> It's lower-level than you asked about, but consequently more flexible :)
[17:34] <cornucopic> persia, need help with dpkg-cntrl :(
[17:34] <Unggnu> hi all
[17:34] <cornucopic> is this valid 'apt-cache search python | grep-dctrl -FArchitecture ALL
[17:34] <cornucopic> ' ?
[17:34] <Unggnu> Are there plans so ship an 64 Bit version of the Adobe Flashplayer?
[17:34] <cornucopic> i want to list packages with ALL arch.
[17:34] <cornucopic> it throws me a error, i don't understand:(
[17:35] <persia> Unggnu: We don't ship Adobe Flashplayer directly, due to license restrictions.  If Adobe makes one available, it might be possible to integration with flashplayer-installer.
[17:35] <Unggnu> persia, it is one available and it works quite well for me. It also seems to be updated regularly with the standard player.
[17:35] <persia> Unggnu: On the other hand, the Partner archive contains a flash player package, which might get 64-bit at a different timing.
[17:36] <Unggnu> persia, http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
[17:36] <persia> Unggnu: Feel free to investigate the flashplayer-installer package, if you like.
[17:36] <Unggnu> It would most likely fix this crashes
[17:36] <persia> cornucopic: Sorry: I tend to use snippets copied from mails and IRC logs to drive grep-dctrl.  You'll need to ask someone more knowledgeable.
[17:36] <cornucopic> persia, no problem. i think i am making headways:)
[18:01] <cornucopic> Would any kinds soul help me with grep-dctrl ?
[18:10] <pabelanger> Afternoon, am I in the correct channel for packing help with a PPA?
[18:26] <bjsnider> i'm wondering if there's some way i can upload the same package to a ppa, but for 5 different series, and use the same orig tarball for each one, so i don't have to upload the source each time -- it's big and i don't have a lot of upload bandwidth
[18:31] <ScottK> bjsnider: PPA specific questions like that are more appropriate in #launchpad.
[18:32] <bjsnider> hahaa
[18:32] <bjsnider> yes, they told me to go here
[18:32] <bjsnider> i don't think it's a specific ppa question
[18:33] <bjsnider> more about debian packaging, or debuild
[18:33] <ScottK> bjsnider: It's actually very specific to how PPAs work.  In normal distro work, such questions don't come up.
[18:36] <bjsnider> well, let me take the ppa side out of it. if you're updating a package by adding a patch or changing a dependency, are you then uploading the entire thing including the source tarball or are you just uploading the changes file and the dsc, and it's using the orig tarball that's already on the server?
[18:39] <persia> bjsnider: For distro work, one only uploads a tarball when producing a new tarball and never uploads to multiple targets.
[18:39] <persia> So the question simply never arises.
[18:40] <bjsnider> but what if you're updating a package going from -0ubuntu1 to -0ubuntu2? the whole source tarball is not re-uploaded, only the changes right?
[18:41] <persia> Right.
[18:42] <persia> But whether that applies to PPAs is a different question.
[18:42] <persia> It's based on how the remote archive works, not on how the development tools work.
[18:42] <bjsnider> i'm not sure you're right about that
[18:42] <bjsnider> at least i'm not using the tools correctly
[18:43] <ScottK> It's a strong enough rule that in the Debian infrastructure if you upload the tarball again when you don't need to, the upload will be rejected.
[18:43] <ScottK> Ubuntu will accept it, but complain a bit.
[18:43] <persia> Well, it depends.  I've had rejects for that.
[18:43] <bjsnider> is there a way i can use debuild and force it to use a specific orig tarball?
[18:45] <persia> No, but you can use -sa to force inclusion of a tarball when debuild doesn't think you need one.
[18:46] <bjsnider> no, no, no
[18:46] <bjsnider> i'm not communicating this properly
[18:50] <bjsnider> the orig tarball has to match the name in the changelog, right? otherwise it is not found, at least not on my system. but the name int he changelog has to change for an upload to work, so the orig name has to change with it, and that means you've got a new orig file that has to be uploaded again each time...
[18:50] <bjsnider> which is what i'm trying to avoid
[18:51] <bjsnider> if, on the other hand, i could force debuild to use a generically-named orig tarball, then i could upload it once and only once
[18:51] <persia> Um, no.
[18:52] <persia> So, the name in the changelog has to match the package name.
[18:52] <persia> And then there is the ${VERSION}-${REVISION} string.
[18:52] <persia> The VERSION must match the VERSION of the orig tarball
[18:53] <bjsnider> now we're getting somehwere
[18:53] <persia> The REVISION can be whatever you want (although due to semantic constraints, one should always increase this when preparing new revisions)
[18:53] <bjsnider> well, on of the two has to change or the upload won't work
[18:53] <bjsnider> but that's beside the point
[18:53] <persia> But what you'll need to get from #launchpad is whether an upload of a tarball to a specific target in a PPA automatically makes it available to other targets in the same PPA.
[18:54] <bjsnider> it's easy enough to test though
[18:54] <persia> Well, no.  It again depends on the way the archive works.  I *think* I remember a bug about revision management in PPAs, but I don't recall the result offhand.
[18:55] <bjsnider> between version and revision there is a dash
[18:55] <persia> Right.
[18:55] <bjsnider> the first dash is the one that's used
[18:56] <bjsnider> that's why this wasn't working
[18:56] <bjsnider> that's how i force debuild to use the same tarball
[18:56] <persia> I forget.  There's some discussion of the effects of multiple dashes that I read once.  It might be the last dash.
[18:56] <bjsnider> i didn't have that dash in the name
[18:56] <persia> You might want to test that if you have a real need for two hyphens.  I recommend avoiding it if possible.
[18:57] <bjsnider> so it must have been seeing the whole string as $version
[18:57] <bjsnider> in an ubuntu package, is the very first attempt called -0ubuntu1 or -0ubuntu0?
[18:57] <bjsnider> well, i didn't have any hyphens
[19:07] <geser> if upstream has a '-' in it's version string using a revision is mandatory as the last '-' determines the upstream version and the package revision
[19:08] <persia> geser: It is the last one.  Thanks!
[19:08] <persia> (although one can also use uversionmangle to work around that)
[19:44] <pabelanger> What is the best way for a package in my PPA to always supersede the Ubuntu version?  IE: in my PPA I have helloworld_2.4, but ubuntu have helloworld_3.0.
[19:44] <tsimpson> pabelanger: just upload a new version
[19:45] <persia> pabelanger: If you want to maintain a newer PPA, you have to play the merge game.  What's better about your PPA version?
[19:46] <pabelanger> Nothing is better, I just want to slim down the Ubuntu version, this main reason for the PPA version.
[19:48] <mok0> pabelanger: you can give it a epoch number
[19:48] <mok0> an epoch number, even
[19:48] <persia> Well, except then one runs into the awkward state of not being able to resync if later things work out.
[19:49] <persia> The alternative I'd recommend is to see if the package can be sanely split so that one doesn't need the larger binary footprint, and discuss the split with the relevant Debian maintainer.
[19:50] <persia> (well, there's the intermediate option of trying to maintain the split package in Ubuntu, but we discourage that)
[19:50] <mok0> persia: yeah.
[19:51] <persia> epochs are dangerous.  They are the ultimate bigger hammer.
[19:51] <mok0> I guess another way is to pin it in apt.conf
[19:51] <persia> Well, sure, but that only works for a local system.
[19:51] <mok0> persia: I agree, but it's a working solution to the problem
[19:52] <persia> Depends on the audience, but yes.
[19:55] <pabelanger> what about renaming the package to a new name and setting up a conflict with the original package?
[19:56] <persia> You'd also need to Provide: the original package, and then you run into dependency issues because there's no support for versioned Provides.
[19:57] <persia> (note that any of the solutions outlined above *work*, they just mostly have downsides, either because they don't really solve the problem or because they require social machinations)
[19:58] <mok0> pabelanger: you could also repackage the newest version
[19:59] <persia> But that requires merging on a regular basis.
[19:59] <persia> There's also only supporting stable releases with the PPA, which means only needing to merge once every six months.
[20:00] <geser> if there are no SRUs or security uploads
[20:00] <persia> Right.
[20:01] <persia> Although constructing a version that is larger than any SRU or security update is easier than constructing a version that is newer than anything, but then the package is potentially inherently insecure or buggy.
[20:51] <norsetto> Anyone know of any planning to have format 3.0 in lucid?
[20:51] <maco> launchpad support is in the works
[20:52] <geser> norsetto: with luck next week
[20:53] <norsetto> cool
[20:53] <mok0> norsetto!!!1
[20:53] <sebner> huhu norsetto :D
[20:53] <mok0> Yay!
[20:53] <norsetto> mok0!!!2
[20:53] <mok0> hehe
[20:53] <norsetto> sebner, gruss
[20:54] <mok0> norsetto: what's up? Longtimenosee
[20:54] <norsetto> mok0 indeed, I'm pretty fine, and you?
[20:54] <sebner> norsetto: come stai? =)
[20:54] <sebner> ah
[20:55] <mok0> norsetto: Ah, I'm fine, mostly... too busy though
[20:55] <ScottK> Hello norsetto.  Good to see you again.
[20:55] <norsetto> sebner, and whats up with you?
[20:55] <norsetto> ScottK, hi Scott
[20:56] <sebner> norsetto: bussy with university, some important tests next week and then finally .. holidays \o/ and after that 2 weeks of do or die tests :D
[20:56] <norsetto> sebner, ahhh, so finally you decided to go to uni
[20:56] <mok0> The military got fed up with sebner
[20:57] <norsetto> mok0, I'm just surprised they wanted him in the first place
[20:57] <sebner> mok0: don't say that, I left as private first class ;)
[20:57] <norsetto> mok0, must be desperate up there ...
[20:57] <sebner> rofl
[20:57] <sebner> norsetto: private first class!
[20:57] <mok0> norsetto: they dropped their strategy of trying to bore the enemy to death and let him go
[20:57] <norsetto> sebner, yes sir! of course sir!
[20:58] <sebner> heh
[20:58]  * mok0 hugs sebner
[20:58] <sebner> mok0: My shooting skills weren't *that* good indeed
[20:58]  * sebner hugs mok0 back :)
[20:59] <norsetto> sebner, I read there was a strange decline in the number of alpine cows
[20:59] <mok0> Ah good times are back when norsetto shows up
[21:00] <norsetto> mok0, lets drink a beer together!
[21:00] <sebner> norsetto: hehehehe, I only killed wooden tablets! ... or not? ;D
[21:00] <mok0> yeah!
[21:01]  * norsetto passes a beer to sebner, he is allowed now that he is a real (tm) man
[21:01] <mok0> chhheeeerssss
[21:01] <norsetto> skollllll
[21:02] <sebner> kampai!
[21:02] <norsetto> burp
[21:02] <norsetto> sorry
[21:02] <mok0> Salut!
[21:02] <sebner> Prost!
[21:03] <mok0> Skål!
[21:03] <mok0> cin cin!
[21:03] <norsetto> the first one that starts singing I let sebner shoot him (he will miss anyway)
[21:05] <sebner> hahahaha xD
[21:06] <sebner> norsetto: Really no worries, I got a pretty quiet office job there ;)
[21:09] <wgrant> norsetto: We're testing 3.0 support out at the moment. It will hopefully become available for use in Ubuntu late next week.
[21:11] <norsetto> wgrant, looking forward to that, hope it will be announced in a devel m.l. once ready
[21:22]  * RainCT wonders whether 3.0 debs are supported already in Ubuntu
[21:23] <mok0> RainCT: last I heard, no
[21:24] <RainCT> mok0: Do you know if that will change anytime soon?
[21:24] <sebner> RainCT: ~~~o~~~
[21:24] <mok0> RainCT: I don't... however, since the Debian archive now contains 3.0 source packages, it can't be long
[21:25] <wgrant> Late next week.
[21:25] <mok0> tataaa!
[21:25] <wgrant> It's taking a while to get dpkg upgraded on all the necessary machines.
[21:25] <mok0> wgrant: is LP prepared for the change?
[21:25] <RainCT> Woo, okay thanks :)
[21:25] <wgrant> mok0: My branch is approved, but cannot land until one last image is upgradd.
[21:26] <wgrant> That should happen in the next day or two.
[21:26] <mok0> However, 3.0 (quilt) is still subject to heated discusssions on Debian mailiing lists
[21:27] <wgrant> They seem to have died down.
[21:34] <geser> pbuilder (and similar) don't need any change to test-build 3.0 source packages, right?
[21:36] <wgrant> geser: sbuild didn't, but not sure about pbuilder.
[21:36] <mok0> geser: Unpacking of source packages is handled by the dpkg-* programs so as long as they are up-to-date...
[21:36] <wgrant> It at least works in Debian, so it's easy to fix.
[21:37] <mok0> wgrant: hmm. What's so special about sbuild?
[21:38] <wgrant> mok0: LP uses it, so I tested that it works.
[21:38] <wgrant> Well, OK, LP uses its own fork of an ancient sbuild full of revolting hacks, but it's close enough.
[21:38] <mok0> wgrant: ah, sbuild *didn't need changes* ... got it


[02:30] <rww> I suspect the "Translation Stats Lucid" section isn't up to date?
[02:51] <pleia2> it's updated by Liraz every week, so he's pulling from some statistic
[02:52] <pleia2> it's probably worthwhile to track him down and find out precisely what he's doing
[02:53] <rww> I meant the wording. Seems a couple of releases off, if I'm reading it right ;)
[02:53] <pleia2> well it's an LTS so he may still be tracking it
[02:53] <rww> true
[09:02] <NRWlion> good morning from germany
[10:40] <NRWlion> hi
[16:41]  * nhandler gets to work
[17:03] <pleia2> nhandler: I'm at work so I'm not 100% here, but let me know if you need anything
[17:15] <nhandler> pleia2: I should be good. It isn't that hard, just a bit time-consuming. Although, we need to follow up with akgraner on granting access in a few other places
[17:15]  * pleia2 nods
[17:16] <pleia2> is there a list of all the stuff we have to s/// from wiki format to go to email format?
[17:33] <nhandler> pleia2: It is essentially just the raw wiki markup. But we still need to sort out a few other steps before that
[17:35]  * pleia2 nods
[18:19] <nhandler> pleia2: I faintly recall there being something weird with the posting of the uwn to the planet (about us only posting to either the fridge or our personal bog, but not both). Do you remember that?
[18:22] <pleia2> nhandler: yeah, back in the day it was a special editor in chief thing that they got to post a summary to their own blog, but even akgraner stopped that with issue 200
[18:22] <pleia2> so now we just post to ubuntu-news.org
[18:23] <pleia2> like this: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/01/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-219/
[18:24] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. I thought it was something like that. I'll update the checklist
[18:58] <nhandler> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue220
[18:59] <pleia2> \o/
[19:00] <nigelb> \o/
[19:04]  * nhandler is trying to find a forum mod/admin to help with that step
[19:05]  * pleia2 nods
[19:38] <pleia2> emailing liraz now
[19:38] <pleia2> (and ccing editor)
[19:39] <nhandler> :)
[19:42] <pleia2> just a note we should make sure to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/SuggestedTemplate with greg-g's changes
[19:43] <pleia2> that was quick, I'll update it now
[19:44] <pleia2> oops, you are :)
[19:45] <nhandler> Yep, sorry. :)
[19:47] <nhandler> pleia2: Could you add the attachments to the new template page and the issue 221 page? It doesn't like me right now for some reason
[19:47] <pleia2> sure
[19:47] <nhandler> Thanks
[19:48] <pleia2> seems to have worked for 221
[19:48] <pleia2> added to SuggestedTemplate
[19:50] <nhandler> :)
[20:45] <pleia2> nhandler: oh, I'll work on that security python script this week, it should be super simple to do even with my limited python-fu
[20:48] <nhandler> pleia2: If you need help, poke me.


[11:53] <jbicha> darkxst: ping
[12:00] <darkxst> jbicha, pong
[12:00] <jbicha> I pinged you before I saw you were already hanging out in #ubuntu-installer
[12:17] <jbicha> darkxst: if you want to try to patch our build script for the casper stuff you can
[12:18] <jbicha> it was a headache the last time we were doing that
[12:23] <darkxst> my last patch worked fine, it was just upstream boot bug.......
[12:52] <darkxst> jbicha, https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/casper/fix-gdm-autologin-lp1046630-fix3
[13:15] <Wilson2B> Unity screwed my 12.04  . Causing refresh problems with desktop.. blanks out. Running unity from terminal shows errors.I went into software center and removed/reinstalled Unity and Compiz. No noticeable problems in 2D mode
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Wilson2B, wrong place:P
[13:18] <smartboyhw> Wilson2B, better to go to #ubuntu-unity or #ubuntu
[13:18] <smartboyhw> !unity
[21:52] <darkxst> jbicha, what do you think about disabling auto-login?
[21:53] <darkxst> (I will make the password entry vanish :) )
[21:54] <jbicha> how will you make the password entry vanish?
[21:55] <darkxst> patch the greeter
[22:09] <darkxst> so it would be something like 1. "try Ubuntu" 2. gdm "live user" 3. Select Session (optional) and click Login
[23:28] <darkxst> jbicha, https://www.dropbox.com/s/dpifung3qf9eq9g/gdm2.png
[23:30] <jbicha> oh
[23:31] <jbicha> darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1227635/
[23:32] <darkxst> hmm well somebody has patch lightdm
[23:36] <jbicha> darkxst: ok, well let's wait until after Beta 2 is done
[23:37] <jbicha> back to your other question, I'm not sure that we need to disable autologin in the live session
[23:37] <jbicha> I think it would be ok to autologin to GNOME Shell & allow people to log out and choose GNOME Classic instead
[23:39] <jbicha> I'm ok with those wanting GNOME Classic to do a little more work
[23:39] <darkxst> ok


[07:21] <mup> PR snapd#13180 opened: snap: use `--uid/--gid` switch when using strace-static <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13180>
[07:26] <mup> PR snapd#13176 closed: tests: support mongodb authentication in the report-mongodb tool <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13176>
[07:31] <mup> PR snapd#13170 closed: apparmor: simplify IoctlRequestBuffer <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13170>
[07:31] <mup> PR snapd#13181 opened: apparmor/notify: remove IoctlRequestBuffer.Bytes() <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13181>
[07:51] <mup> PR snapd#12640 closed: snap: show pending update information in 'snap info' <Needs Samuele review> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by robert-ancell> <Closed by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12640>
[07:51] <mup> PR snapd#12920 closed: cmd/snap: add a --size option to list <Created by robert-ancell> <Closed by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12920>
[07:56] <mup> PR snapd#11670 closed: cmd/snap: when running a desktop file, run via the desktop launcher <Needs Samuele review> <Needs security review> <Created by robert-ancell> <Closed by robert-ancell> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11670>
[11:42] <mup> PR snapd#13141 closed: tests: fix test snapd-homedirs-vendored in ubuntu mantic <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13141>
[12:28] <mup> PR snapd#12662 closed: interfaces/builtin: add TOKEN2 FIDO2 u2fdevice <Created by RomanNovacek> <Closed by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12662>
[12:53] <mup> PR snapd#13152 closed: tests: fix how snapd is restored in snapd-homedirs-vendored <Simple 😃> <Test Robustness> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13152>
[13:30] <mup> PR snapcraft#4355 opened: Try to repro Flutter issue <Created by mraleph> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4355>
[15:36] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4356 opened: Handle multi-arch builds in destructive mode <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4356>
[15:59] <mup> PR snapd#13182 opened: i/builtin/block-devices: loop* is actually included now <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13182>
[16:04] <mup> PR snapd#13181 closed: apparmor/notify: remove IoctlRequestBuffer.{Bytes,Len}() <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13181>
[16:31] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4357 opened: Regression in handling `remote-build` <Bug> <Created by dilyn-corner> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4357>
[16:34] <mup> PR snapd#13183 opened: seed: preseed timestamp should be after my-signer key registration <Test Robustness> <Skip spread> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13183>
[19:06] <mup> PR snapcraft#4358 opened: style(docs): fix linter errors for auto-generated commands <do-not-squash> <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4358>
[22:47] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4319 closed: remote-build: add control logic for envvar `SNAPCRAFT_REMOTE_BUILD_STRATEGY` <Enhancement> <Created by mr-cal> <Closed by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4319>
[22:47] <mup> PR snapcraft#4353 closed: feat(remote-build): check SNAPCRAFT_REMOTE_BUILD_STRATEGY envvar <Created by mr-cal> <Merged by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4353>


[08:39] <fnoyanisi> selam
[08:50] <fnoyanisi> neyse, muhabbeti bolmim kanada, cok hararetli geciyo
[20:09] <rypervenche> Does anyone here speak English? I'm having an issue with my locale.
[21:07] <az> I does rypervenche
[21:07] <az> * I do
[21:56] <rypervenche> az: Do you ever have problem with programs that don't know how to use iİ and ıI properly?
[21:57] <az> I've started to have problems with firefox only.
[21:57] <rypervenche> az: I just started using tr_TR.UTF-8 locale (I'm learning Turkish) and some programs don't work sometimes, like i3 shortcuts when there is a "i" in the name.
[21:58] <az> you have the English keyboard layout but shortcuts does not work?
[22:15] <rypervenche> az: Correct. like ctrl+alt+i isn't recognized.
[22:16] <rypervenche> And ctrl+alt+Insert
[22:17] <az> I'm not really into shortcuts. I do not use it much. if you want me to test it on my system the I would like to know what program are these shortcuts used in.


 20.04.2 Live Boot working fine, installing to entire disk now...
[01:26] <mparillo> Thanks, so I will take encrypted
 Entire disk was install went well, manual partitioning next...
[01:39] <mparillo> Encrypted passed.
[01:44] <mparillo> OEM next.
 Both installs exhibited long pause with Kubuntu banner prior to the "remove media" prompt... yours?
[02:00] <mparillo> Less than a minute I would guess.
 One pause was about a minute, the other seemed more like 2 minutes but I was not timing either one.
[02:01] <mparillo> Should lsb_release say Ubuntu? The test case seems to indicate Kubuntu, and I cannot recall prior behavior.
 An now for autoresize....
[02:02] <valorie> mparillo: Harald gave up patching things to make them say Kubuntu
[02:02] <valorie> because it was repetitve and not worth the time to do it
[02:03] <valorie> we are ubuntu after all
[02:09] <mparillo> OK, then passed the OEM test case.
[02:18] <mparillo> Sharp eyes welcome for: https://kubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=4153&action=edit Once Ubuntu publishes their release notes, we can check the link and publish.
 I am not worthy:  "Sorry, you are not allowed to edit this item."
 Autoresize installed without issue.  The pause on restart was ~2minutes  this time (slow mental count to 115).
[02:32] <mparillo> I think that you need to be added to some kind of group to share the experience of editing WordPress pages.
[02:33] <mparillo> If you alt tab or some other key chord away from the glowing Kubuntu I wonder if you get a normal grub shutdown, and maybe see a pause there. I have seen where systemd wants to wait 90 seconds before forcing something.
 I usually REISUB out of it.  But it's been awhile since this was necessary.
 @DarinMiller mparillo - Thank you SO MUCH for the testing :D
[10:53] <mparillo> It gives those of us who prefer the daily development ISO a chance to experience what the LTS uses see.
[10:53] <mparillo> And my pleasure.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[23:49] <santa_> hi everyone
[23:50] <santa_> RikMills: I have the impression this arm64 autopkgtest needs a rebuild:
[23:50] <santa_> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kio
[23:51] <santa_> looking at the log looks like a temporary hang in autopkgtest, but I'm just guessing
[23:52] <santa_> s/rebuild/retry/


[13:13] <RikMills> tsimonq2: looks like they both migrated quickly
 Glad to hear it!
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all