[07:46] <jrsims> how can I start a program in terminal so that I don't need to keep the terminal window open after the program starts? Like firefox for example?
[07:46] <theblue> jrsims, Just type a space and put an & after the program name.
[07:46] <cwillu> jrsims: put a & after the command, or hit ctrl+z in the terminal and then type bg
[07:46] <Warbo> jrsims: add an "&" after it (so "firefox &")
[07:46] <theblue> jrsims, so :
[07:46] <cwillu> theblue: space isn't neccessary
[07:46] <theblue> jrsims, "mozilla-firefox &"
[07:46] <jrsims> ok cool
[07:46] <jrsims> I think I get it. thanks.
[07:47] <theblue> cwillu, Ah, thanks.
[07:47] <theblue> jrsims, no problem.
[07:47] <cydrive> can someone help me getting universe enabled so i can update flash and all my other software
[07:47] <jrsims> is there a reason the character & is used?
[07:47] <jrsims> like why & and not % or something else?
[07:47] <theblue> jrsims, i think it's because you can chain up another command after it, but I'm not entirely sure.
[07:48] <theblue> cydrive, absolutely, what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[07:48] <jrsims> ah
[07:48] <Evilscietnist> anyone else brave enough to help?
[07:48] <cydrive> i have the new version 6.06 dapper
[07:48] <theblue> cydrive, well, i haven't used dapper yet, though i'm pretty sure it's the same.
[07:48] <theblue> cydrive, crack open a terminal, please.
[07:49] <cydrive> ok
[07:49] <cydrive> its open
[07:49] <theblue> cydrive, now, type 'cd /etc/apt'
[07:49] <theblue> cydrive, and type 'ls'
[07:50] <cydrive> apt.conf    secring.gpg   sources.list.d     trustdb.gpg  trusted.gpg~
[07:50] <cydrive> apt.conf.d  sources.list  sources.list.save  trusted.gpg
[07:50] <theblue> ok ,good.
[07:50] <theblue> now, type 'sudo nano sources.list'
[07:50] <Evilscietnist> okay...silly question then.
[07:51] <achandra> anybody aware of how to "irq steer" or change an irq that a device is associated with in linux or ubuntu?
[07:51] <theblue> or 'sudo gedit sources.list'
[07:51] <Evilscietnist> I've setup (CLI ) a domain server with Samba.
[07:51] <theblue> cydrive, depending on your favorite editor.
[07:51] <cydrive> i dont really have a fav im new to linux based enviorments
[07:51] <Evilscietnist> ....can I install xubuntu or kubuntu on the system as a GUI for said server?
[07:51] <cydrive> i used the first one you gave me
[07:52] <theblue> cydrive, well, i recommend gedit if you want something graphical.
[07:52] <Warbo> theblue: use "gksudo" for graphical apps, in case config files get overwritten by root-owned ones
[07:52] <theblue> Warbo, Ah, wasn't it gksu?
[07:52] <cydrive> i used the first one anyways what should i do noe?
[07:52] <achandra> EvilScietnist: is there a reason you need X? why not keep it headless.
[07:53] <cydrive> now*
[07:53] <Warbo> theblue: I think gksu is for su, gksudo is for sudo. Ubuntu generally encourages sudo over su
[07:53] <theblue> cydrive, could you type ctrl-x, please?
[07:53] <theblue> cydrive, and type 'gksudo gedit sources.list'?
[07:53] <cydrive> sure
[07:53] <Evilscietnist> achandra....might be easier to setup shares and the like in GUI??
[07:53] <theblue> Warbo, Ok, then, and KDE uses kdesu and kdesudo?
[07:54] <cydrive> ok i got a new editor
[07:54] <Warbo> theblue: Sorry, I don't know (but I know there are tools which do that, just not their names)
[07:54] <theblue> cydrive, Ok, could you use pastebin and copy+paste that file into pastebin, so I can see what you have?
[07:54] <BSoDirl> After getting banned in this channel for recommending that someone "su", I learned that Ubuntu recommends sudo :>
[07:54] <Evilscietnist> LOL
[07:54] <cydrive> whats pastebin? im sorry like i said im new to this
[07:54] <theblue> BSoDirl, does Ubuntu even have su?
[07:55] <Evilscietnist> yep
[07:55] <theblue> !tell cydrive about pastebin
[07:55] <Evilscietnist> I think it does...
[07:55] <BSoDirl> yeah
[07:55] <BSoDirl> :>\
[07:55] <achandra> Evilscientnist: IMHO...if you really want to learn samba, its interoperability and be able to debug issuesand problems, Id stick with no gui version. Also it will give a chance to truly understand where things are placed for samba.. my two cents
[07:55] <Warbo> BSoDirl: In my experience one doesn't get banned, just subjected to constant abusive messages
[07:55] <BSoDirl> I don't like typing 'sudo' all the time.
[07:55] <BSoDirl> Warbo: tell that to Seveas.
[07:55] <Warbo> BSoDirl: "sudo -s -H"
[07:55] <BSoDirl> I said "Jeeesus, don't have a hissyfit"
[07:55] <criptic> lol
[07:55] <BSoDirl> and then I see "you have been banned from #ubuntu, *Hissyfit..*"
[07:56] <theblue> BSoDirl, you can type 'sudo bash' and get a root shell.
[07:56] <criptic> some people do get carried away
[07:56] <Evilscietnist> achandra....tru dat...and I think I've got it set up right...I just can't login to the bugger with windows.
[07:56] <BSoDirl> *sigh*
[07:56] <achandra> Evilscietnist: did you set up the smbuser allowed to log in to it?
[07:56] <Evilscietnist> I've got the user that I've added 2 users...
[07:56] <cydrive> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16678
[07:57] <Evilscietnist> 1. admin account used when creating server (inital install)
[07:57] <Evilscietnist> 2.  another account made after server set up.
[07:57] <achandra> Evilscietnist: I think you might have added the so-called unix users...but did you do the smbpasswd -a  thing..?
[07:57] <Evilscietnist> yes.
[07:57] <theblue> cydrive, ok, gedit's still open, right?
[07:57] <cydrive> yeah
[07:57] <Evilscietnist> and unix smb passwords are synced
[07:57] <achandra> hmm..okay..
[07:57] <theblue> cydrive, ok lemme check your sources.list file.
[07:57] <ikabot> Hi guys. I'm trying to use MIDI on Ubuntu, but KMid and Rosegarden complain about the absence of /dev/sequencer. Has anyone seen this before?
[07:58] <rob138> is it possible to ssh into my friends computer that is on wireless at his house on a router?
[07:58] <knight488> could someone take a quick look at my xorg.conf file? I have a feelin something is messed up in it...
[07:58] <achandra> is samba server started?
[07:58] <achandra> listening on port 389? i think..
[07:58] <Warbo> ikabot: Generally you use software synthesisers like timidity++ and fluidsynth, try installing one (or both) of them
[07:58] <theblue> knight488, I'm no expert on it, but if you pastebin it, i'll compare it to mine.
[07:58] <Evilscietnist> yes...and is listed in network neighbourhood.
[07:58] <snoops> or sudo -i theblue
[07:58] <Evilscietnist> windows can see the server.
[07:58] <theblue> snoops, true.
[07:58] <theblue> cydrive, ok, this is easy.
[07:59] <theblue> cydrive, see those lines that have # (not ##) before them?
[07:59] <achandra> okay... cool we've established all of the preliminary stuff is okay....what is wrong exactly??
[07:59] <cydrive> yeah
[07:59] <knight488> theblue, pastebin?
[07:59] <theblue> !tell knight488 about pastebin
[07:59] <Evilscietnist> so windows logon screen... user should = "sambaworkgroup"\user; password = <smbpassword>....yes?
[07:59] <ehtotam> woo hoo, I fixed my computer
[07:59] <ehtotam> if anyone is on when I was earlier thanks
[07:59] <theblue> cydrive, just delete the # before the repositories you want to enable.
[08:00] <theblue> cydrive, when you're done, save the file and then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:00] <theblue> cydrive, and you're all done.
[08:00] <Warbo> ehtotam: What a waste. Should have been "Woo hoo! I've fixed my compu<connection reset by peer>"
[08:00] <rob138> is it possible to ssh into my friends computer that is on wireless at his house on a router?
[08:00] <achandra> that "appears" to be correct.
[08:00] <cydrive> ok so the repositores i want to enable should have no # in front of them?
[08:00] <BSoDirl> rob138: yep
[08:00] <Evilscietnist> yep....window just blinks and nothing happens....
[08:00] <rob138> BSoDirl, how should i do that?
[08:00] <Flashq009> Hello.  I have loaded the live cd, but I am trying to change the resolution from the default of 640x480, which is the only option listed in the screen resolution dialog box.  How do I change it to 1024x768 or higher?
[08:00] <achandra> Evilscientnist: i might suggest looking at logs in /var/log
[08:01] <theblue> cydrive, right.
[08:01] <theblue> cydrive, # tells apt to ignore that line.
[08:01] <cydrive> ok thank you im gonna try it
[08:01] <ehtotam> lol
[08:01] <Evilscietnist> okay....what am I looking for?
[08:01] <ehtotam> nothing like a good nerdy joke...
[08:01] <theblue> cydrive, No problem, and if it doesn't work (but I swear it will), I'll stick around in here.
[08:01] <KenSentMe> !fixedresolution > Flashq009
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about fixedresolution
[08:01] <Evilscietnist> and in CLI...how do you navigate to that....<sigh>
[08:02] <achandra> Evilscietnist: specifically running a tail -f /var/log/messages ... assuming that is the sysout for samba.. did you try that...you are looking for deny or whatever.. is in the log...
[08:02] <KenSentMe> !resolution > Flashq009
[08:02] <achandra> Evilscietnist: that may help you debug the problem..
[08:02] <KenSentMe> Flashq009: check what ubotu sent you
[08:02] <Flashq009> ok thanks
[08:03] <knight488> theblue, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16679
[08:03] <achandra> EvilScietnist: using pastebin...would it be possible to paste your smb.conf file...im curious..
[08:03] <Evilscietnist> lists serveral times....each with "server --MARK--
[08:03] <ehtotam> well Warbo having never been on this Chat besides today I can't get in every inside joke.
[08:03] <Evilscietnist> okay....pastebin.....???
[08:03] <achandra> !pastebin
[08:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:04] <Warbo> ehtotam: That's Slashdot humour at it's highest, that is :)
[08:04] <cydrive> does anyone know the line of code to update flash?
[08:04] <theblue> knight488, Ok, gimme a second.
[08:04] <Warbo> cydrive: Update the package?
[08:04] <achandra> Evilscietnist: did you get that?
[08:04] <Warbo> cydrive: (you realise there is no native Flash 8 for Linux?)
[08:04] <ehtotam> ahh, I'm usually over at Digg... and most of the time ignore the comments lots of whiners.
[08:05] <cydrive> what version is it up to?
[08:05] <Evilscietnist> yes....but no real way to do it from the CLI...
[08:05] <spades> 7
[08:05] <Warbo> cydrive: 7.0.1.something I think
[08:05] <cydrive> im also guessing they dont have new version of realplayer
[08:05] <Warbo> cydrive: You can use Windows Firefox in WINE aqnd install Flash 8 in that
[08:05] <achandra> Evilscietnist: do you have another linux box?? or are you on windows right now
[08:05] <Evilscietnist> on windows....
[08:05] <cydrive> yeah i want to view it in firefox
[08:06] <achandra> Evilscietnist: can you ssh to the box with smb on it via putty ?
[08:06] <cydrive> how would i do that Warbo?
[08:06] <theblue> knight488, well, i can't see any glaring errors, though I really don't know.
[08:06] <Warbo> cydrive: get WINE "sudo apt-get install wine" then go on getfirefox.com and get the Windows version, then go on a Flash site with it and it will ge tFlash 8 plugin for you
[08:06] <Evilscietnist> honestly.....no idea
[08:06] <theblue> knight488, the file looks well-formed to me.
[08:06] <OrgulloKmoore> snoops I've been connected for nearly an hour now. That's better than I've ever got before on Ubuntu, so I'm gonna go ahead and close the book on this. Thank you very much.
[08:06] <snoops> Warbo it all goes to hell if you're on amd64 of course :)
[08:07] <cydrive> can wine use all windows apps?
[08:07] <Evilscietnist> I'm a total linux NOOB!!!  <sigh>
[08:07] <achandra> Evilscietnist:  download putty on your windows box...a google search for it will get it for you quickly..
[08:07] <snoops> hey, awesome OrgulloKmoore..
[08:07] <Warbo> cydrive: (To use Windows programs in WINE just do "wine programname.exe", or double click it's icon [but you will get no output to look through if it goes wrong] )
[08:07] <theblue> cydrive, well, that really depends.
[08:08] <knight488> theblue, theres suppost to be more than one device, screen and stuff?
[08:08] <cydrive> Warbo wqhen i type in the command you gave me i get this Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:08] <cydrive> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:08] <cydrive> is only available from another source
[08:08] <cydrive> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:08] <Evilscietnist> ooh.....wait...I just had a successfully login!!!  holy crap!
[08:08] <theblue> knight488, yeah, that's normal.
[08:08] <theblue> knight488, but you really should ask someone else for details.
[08:08] <achandra> Evilscietnist: cool..
[08:09] <theblue> Evilscietnist, gratz.
[08:09] <Warbo> cydrive: Are you in amd64?
[08:09] <achandra> Evilscietnist: what changed things??
[08:09] <knight488> theblue, I'm trying to figure out why accelerated graphics isn't working with my ATI card, thought maybe it was an xorg.conf mistake, wrong things getting loaded...
[08:09] <Evilscietnist> no bloody clue.
[08:09] <achandra> lol
[08:09] <achandra> those are the best...
[08:09] <cwillu> how do I suspend a task, other than the process manager?
[08:09] <ehtotam> Is Ubunto not able to read ntfs file systems?
[08:09] <Evilscietnist> used the accound I made....instead of the "admin" account.
[08:10] <snoops> it can read them fine ehtotam
[08:10] <OrgulloKmoore> cwillu sudo kill pid number
[08:10] <KenSentMe> !tell ehtotam about ntfs
[08:10] <cydrive> i have an amd 64 ut what do you mean in it?
[08:10] <ehtotam> hmm...
[08:10] <cwillu> OrgulloKmoore: does that kill it or suspend it?
[08:10] <Warbo> ehtotam: Read yes, Write no (well, yes but it's complicated and unreliable)
[08:10] <BSoDirl> ehtotam: read-only access.
[08:10] <achandra> Evilscientist: I would also highly recommend getting openssh server running on that box, and download winscp and putty to adminster it..
[08:10] <OrgulloKmoore> cwillu that kills it :P
[08:10] <cha0tic> how much hdd space is required for ubuntu??
[08:11] <theblue> knight488, something might be in the wrong order, but i really don't know.
[08:11] <snoops> they say 1.3gig or something close to that?
[08:11] <Warbo> cydrive: Since pretty much every Windows program is 32bit there is no point making a 64bit WINE, therefore you will have to use this 32bit version. Ask someone about linux32 (the best method) or 32bit chroot (still works, but not as nice)
[08:11] <ehtotam> at least 2 gigs cha0tic that I know I just installed it...
[08:11] <theblue> cha0tic, in my experience, about 2-3 gigs, less if you do the server.
[08:11] <rob138> hi, if i want to link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2  what is the command?
[08:11] <cha0tic> very much for linux 0o
[08:11] <Ademan> anyone seen the "gimme bar" ?
[08:11] <achandra> cha0tic: tough question to answer...because it really depends on "what" the intended usage is...ie workstation...server...embedded system...or whatever...
[08:11] <Evilscietnist> something definitly isn't right here.
[08:12] <Ademan> http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie
[08:12] <Ademan> it looks very cool
[08:12] <rob138> is it ln -s 1 to 2 or ln -s 2 to 1
[08:12] <knight488> theblue, wait a second
[08:12] <achandra> Evilscietnist: whats up ??
[08:12] <Warbo> Ademan: What does it do? (Does it have a money plugin?)
[08:12] <cwillu> neat, anything sudo hangs
[08:13] <cydrive> warbo thanks i found a tutorial big help thank you alot
[08:13] <snoops> Warbo doesn't wine have some issues hooking up to alsa for sound output? (something very important for flash 8)?
[08:13] <Warbo> cydrive: np
[08:13] <rob138> how do i link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2  what is the command?
[08:13] <Ademan> Warbo: my understanding is it's very similar to the mac OSX doc, but slightly modified i guess, there are a couple videos in on the bottom, i can't quite describe it
[08:13] <Evilscietnist> I can log into I guess it's the /home and use folder...but when I try to use the same login to log into the domain in the "computer name" section...it won't go.
[08:13] <Chetwin> I'm a complete douche
[08:13] <Chetwin> How do I install a .deb?
[08:13] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[08:13] <snoops> double click it Chetic
[08:13] <Evilscietnist> grumble........where's the sledgehammer......grumble.....
[08:13] <Warbo> snoops: I don't think I've ever used an app in WINE that needs sound, but I've only heard positive things so I don't know
[08:13] <Ademan> Chetwin: in dapper you can double click
[08:13] <theblue> Chetwin, 'ipkg -i filename.deb'
[08:13] <knight488> theblue, at the top where it says: Section "ServerLayout" , then under that: Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0] " 0 0..... "aticonfig-Screen[0] " is what it's using?
[08:13] <Chetwin> It tries to open it with ark
[08:14] <Chetwin> And fails
[08:14] <theblue> Chetwin, YOu can do that too.
[08:14] <snoops> Warbo.. hmm I heard people having big issues with skype 2.0 and sound in wine.. lots of lag etc
[08:14] <Chetwin> I'm so lost
[08:14] <knight488> nevermind, I'm lost
[08:14] <theblue> knight488, Look, I really don't know, I don't do much with xorg.conf on my systems.
[08:14] <Chetwin> When I open it with ark, it says denied
[08:14] <achandra> Evilscietnist: Samba can be setup for workgroup environments or act as primary domain controller ( its a bit more complex)....which did you set it up as??
[08:14] <Ademan> Chetwin: "sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb" don't forget to incude the file path
[08:14] <Chetwin> "The utility is not in your path"
[08:14] <Warbo> snoops: Are you sure that isn't native skype (I know it uses OSS, which hogs the soundcard)
[08:14] <theblue> Chetwin, you need to run it with sudo.
[08:14] <rob138> how do i link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2  what is the command? sorry to keep asking, i just forget what the syntax, like which comes first
[08:15] <zx8> Join the 9/11 truth community at http://www.truthbox.org/
[08:15] <Chetwin> Yesssssssss
[08:15] <snoops> nope Warbo this was skype 2.0 because bloody skype for linux doesn't support video
[08:15] <Chetwin> Thanks Ademan!
[08:15] <kholerabbi> what's xorg.conf?
[08:15] <Warbo> zx8: Join the Ubuntu Offtopic room in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:15] <achandra> zx8: I was at One Wilshire to do some stuff with Level 3 last week and saw a bunch of people at the conference...same peeps??
[08:16] <achandra> robl38: ln -s
[08:16] <Ademan> !tell kholerabbi about Xorg
[08:16] <zx8> achandra: no
[08:16] <burivoy> does anybony knows the proper mobile phone manager for ubuntu?
[08:16] <Warbo> snoops: I set up Ekiga on my Dad's machine, then found that it wouldn't go through the NAT on my machine, so I had to uninstall it (port forwarding does not seem to work on my router)
[08:17] <Ademan> oh he's gone
[08:17] <achandra> zx8: they were at the sheraton..near buy..handing out stickers and stuff.. seemed like 911 "truth" group or whatever..
[08:18] <achandra> kholerabbi: allows you configure resoultion, mouse,  touch pad settings, etc..
[08:19] <cwillu> piece of ****
[08:19] <zx8> achandra: in LA?
[08:19] <achandra> yep
[08:19] <zx8> achandra: did you go?
[08:20] <tic1> zx8, why truthbox?
[08:20] <achandra> no....was installinga bunch of Asterisk, Openser stuff.. anyhow...went to get a burger at the Macy's plaza...near the sheraton convention..and saw a heck of alot of peeps there that were all into it..
[08:21] <snoops> Warbo it's very frustrating for me.. the only thing keeping me dualbooting is so I can use skype, flash 8 perfectly, and trillian.. otherwise I would be quite happy with absolute fulltime linux desktop adoption
[08:22] <achandra> snoops: thought there was a skype client for linux, and trillian...like cleint.. but flash is another quagmire way beyond the scope of this forum...
[08:22] <burepe2> there is
[08:22] <Stefano145> hello everybodsy. I have a problem with a window "azureus did not shutdown tidily......" and I click hide but the window remains here
[08:23] <Stefano145> can anybody help me plesase? I usa ubuntu dapper 6.06
[08:23] <burepe2> Stefano145: ask you r questin
[08:23] <snoops> there is achandra, it's just like flash.. a few major release versions out of date
[08:23] <ikabot> I'm using Dapper too.
[08:23] <ikabot> But I can't seem to get my MIDI working.
[08:23] <tic1> stefano145: you have to update to the cvs version. i forget how i did it but check out the azureus page.
[08:23] <ikabot> KMid and Rosegarden both complain of a missing /dev/sequencer.
[08:24] <achandra> Stefano145: you can certainly do a ps -ef  for the process and find its name...then pkill the process...or if you wish to invasive..kill -9 the process number..
[08:24] <ikabot> I don't know if anyone has seen this before, byt if you have, please let me know.
[08:24] <tic1> stefano145, it is pretty simple there is a plugin that does it automatically
[08:24] <Stefano145> can you guive me that page plesae?
[08:24] <Stefano145> ah .. yes .. plug-ins ... what should i do to install plug-ins?
[08:24] <Warbo> snoops: Do you know of any animated SVG tool? I don't think I've seen anything which can handle animation although it is in the specification
[08:25] <snoops> I've heard good things about inkscape Warbo, but could be way off
[08:25] <varsendaggr> can i send faxes with dsl?
[08:25] <tic1> stephano145, just google azureus. it will give you step by step instructions on how to do everything. it is super easy.
[08:25] <achandra> snoops: yeah...I remeber seeing you on the channel maybe two days ago...and I remember the issues...multimedia..issues right? Hopefully it was the same "snoops"....lol
[08:26] <varsendaggr> Warbo, you could try blender or dtpblender
[08:26] <varsendaggr> google dtpblender
[08:26] <Warbo> snoops: Inkscape is great for images, but has no animation support (I have found guides to making SVG animations, but they used a text editor *shudder*)
[08:26] <snoops> yep achandra..same one I hope
[08:26] <achandra> yep..glad to see some regulars on here..lol
[08:27] <tic1> stefano145: the updater plugin is called AZCVSupdater
[08:27] <varsendaggr> Warbo, what are you trying to do?
[08:27] <varsendaggr> snoops, what up?
[08:27] <Warbo> snoops: Well, I say great but it screwed up one of my pictures recently when I added some masks. I filed a bug report and it's now fixed (in SVG at least) but I will never get my picture back :(
[08:27] <snoops> uh.. damn
[08:27] <Stefano145> tic1: what should i do to install a plugin of azureus in linux?
[08:28] <snoops> oh just whining varsendaggr :)
[08:28] <Warbo> varsendaggr: I just want to experiment with SVG animation, and maybe make some scripts to manipulate the XML (creating interactivity). It is not major, just a curiosity (I use 65 Moho to get Flash at the moment)
[08:29] <achandra> Complex question.... In other linux distros the /etc/sysconfig/network directory allows you to create ifcfg-eth0 and so on for ethernet interfaces....There is only one "networking" file in ubuntu.. and the config is a little strange for me.. specifically attempting to create bonded interfaces and stuff.. does anyone have a good guide to aid in understanding how its put together??
[08:29] <varsendaggr> Warbo, blender is a sweet 3d program but you can do that kind of stuff in a 2d program called dtpblender
[08:29] <varsendaggr> Warbo, not exactly flash but better
[08:30] <Warbo> varsendaggr: I will have a look into dtpblender thanks (I have used Blender a little, but have not quite got used to it's interface yet). 3D is not better than 2D, they are just different
[08:31] <varsendaggr> imho   it isn't about 2d or 3d   it is about the program    there is just a lot more one can do with blender.    plus you can get the same look
[08:31] <Cornellius> I have a question here.
[08:31] <tic1> stephano145, check out http://azcvsupdater.sourceforge.net/ there is a readme with install notes.
[08:32] <Cornellius> I can't see my WIndows XP partition from Ubuntu
[08:32] <Cornellius> I have a 250 G that I splitted in 2. 125 G (NTFS XP) and 125 G (Ubuntu)
[08:32] <cwill1> /name cwillu
[08:33] <cwill1> how do I do that...
[08:33] <tic1> stefano145, i installed it and it was easy (and i'm no linux genius) but i forget how i did it.
[08:33] <varsendaggr> Cornellius, !samba
[08:33] <VoX> cwill1: /nick cwillu
[08:33] <Cornellius> no, I dont want to use samba
[08:33] <Cornellius> I remember with another distro
[08:33] <Cornellius> Windows was just there, in /mnt
[08:33] <cwill1> VoX: just had to hard reboot (yay ubuntu... (grrrr)), is there anyway to kick my old username?
[08:34] <Flashq009> is there an XFree86 in ubuntu?
[08:34] <VoX> oh
[08:34] <varsendaggr> yeah you could go to /etc/fstab and see where if it got mounted
[08:34] <VoX> cwill1: is it registered?
[08:34] <cwill1> yes
[08:34] <thoreauputic> !windowsdrives
[08:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:34] <ikabot> I need to go now. If anyone knows about midi and /dev/sequencer, please email me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:34] <zx8> achandra: did you see any feds there?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> Flashq009: xorg
[08:34] <ikabot> Cheers for now.
[08:34] <Flashq009> ok thanks
[08:34] <varsendaggr> ikabot,
[08:34] <achandra> nope
[08:34] <varsendaggr> just a sec
[08:35] <Cornellius> thoreauputic: Thanks
[08:35] <ikabot> Hi versendaggr.
[08:35] <cwill1> VoX: yes, cwillu is registered, cwill1 isn't though
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Cornellius: :)
[08:35] <VoX> cwill1: /msg nickserv help recover
[08:35] <Cornellius> thoreauputic: I still need Windows for work
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Cornellius: heh - you feel the need to explain your windows habit ? ;-)
[08:36] <OrgulloKmoore> I hate to ask this dumb question, but where is the "run..." button in Gnome. I can find it in KDE and Windows, but....
[08:36] <Cornellius> thoreauputic: No, Linux does not have enough EDAs
[08:36] <ikabot> Open a termina
[08:36] <cwillu> beautiful :)
[08:36] <varsendaggr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:37] <varsendaggr> ikabot, ^^^^^
[08:37] <ikabot> Open a terminal, OrgulloKmoore.
[08:37] <varsendaggr> what is an eda
[08:37] <ikabot> Then you can issue commands from the command line.
[08:37] <OrgulloKmoore> ikabot is that the only way?
[08:37] <cwillu> now, back to the original reason I came on today.....
[08:37] <snoops> if you right click on a blank space in your task bars OrgulloKmoore you'll see something like add panel, or add component
[08:37] <varsendaggr> OrgulloKmoore, you can do it differently,   but using the terminal is the best :)
[08:37] <snoops> through there you can add various things
[08:38] <ikabot> Thanks varsendaggr.
[08:38] <ikabot> I'll check that out.
[08:38] <OrgulloKmoore> heh, ok
[08:38] <varsendaggr> ikabot, you bet
[08:38] <snoops> one of those things being a run dialog box
[08:38] <varsendaggr> sound in ubuntu isn't the best yet.....    but it is getting there
[08:38] <claint> after upgrading from breezy to dapper, my xserver stopped working. i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and make a new xorg.conf file, since to no avail. anyone know what to do?
[08:38] <ikabot> Okay. I think I saw that article before.
[08:38] <varsendaggr> claint, try to do it again
[08:39] <cwillu> how easy is it to get rid of the junk that is the gnome-cups-manager?
[08:39] <ikabot> I got TiMidity.
[08:39] <snoops> working great for my audigy 2 zs varsendaggr
[08:39] <claint> varsendaggr : try reconfiguring it again?
[08:39] <ikabot> And JACK also.
[08:39] <ikabot> when I ls /dev, there's no sequencer in that directory.
[08:39] <varsendaggr> claint, how many video cards do you have    do you have an intergrated?
[08:39] <varsendaggr> snoops, good for you
[08:40] <ikabot> I'll try again tonight. I'm at work now, so my Ubuntu box isn't actually with me now.
[08:40] <Warbo> Anybody know how I can find the difference between two lists? I have tried using: cat file1 | grep -vF file2
[08:40] <cwillu> alternatively, how do I make gnome-cups-manager let me print to a file, or a pdf, or a filter, or anything other than a specific printer already attached or on the network?
[08:40] <claint> varsendaggr : 1 i think, it is i810.
[08:41] <ikabot> Oh man, I didn't do the modprobe snd-seq-midi
[08:41] <claint> varsendaggr : come to think of it, i had another package to make it work at 1400x??? resolution.
[08:41] <ikabot> I think that's my problem. Okay. I'll try again tonight and see how it goes.
[08:41] <varsendaggr> claint, i went through the same thing reinstalled breezy twice    figured out that i needed to reconfigure x   and put in the right pci bus
[08:41] <claint> hmmm
[08:42] <claint> varsendaggr : why would the pci bus change? there were no changes to the xorg.conf after the upgrade. i checked.
[08:42] <varsendaggr> claint, lspci  may tell you something,   sounds like you have an intergrated,  how you got 1400x   resolution on a i810   i wouldn't know
[08:42] <varsendaggr> hmmmm   i don't know
[08:42] <ikabot> Thanks versendaggr. I'll let you know how I make out.
[08:42] <ikabot> Cheers all.
[08:42] <varsendaggr> laters
[08:42] <claint> varsendaggr: there is a package called 855resolution, you get the resolution working with that.
[08:43] <cipherd> hi all
[08:43] <varsendaggr> claint, all i can say is good luck i am going to sleep     sorry i couldn't bee more help
[08:43] <cwillu> can anybody at least pretend to know something about my problem?  I'd really appreciate it :)
[08:43] <cipherd> i've downloaded sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-bin  but can't install them 'cause they depend on each other
[08:43] <kholerabbi> I need to back-install from autoconf-2.59 to autoconf 2.13, as the former is buggy, how do I install the older autoconf??
[08:43] <cipherd> what's the solution ?
[08:43] <kholerabbi> cwillu: wahts that problem?
[08:44] <MeGaQuArK> Java Installation anyone?
[08:44] <garryF> A circular dependancy? Aaargh!
[08:44] <cwillu> kholerabbi: printing;
[08:44] <claint> varsendaggr : thanks mate, i'll try your tip.
[08:44] <MeGaQuArK> Why do some pages with Java on them work, while others do not?
[08:44] <cwillu> kholerabbi: the general problem is a bit verbose, but I'd be satisfied if I could set up a virtual printer to print to file
[08:44] <kholerabbi> cwillu: Ah, well I don't have a printer at all, so... ;(
[08:44] <cipherd> so what's the solution to this circular dependency???
[08:44] <cwillu> kholerabbi: ahh, that'd be right up your alley then :)
[08:45] <kholerabbi> Oh! A virtual printer.. hmmmm .....
[08:45] <cwillu> cipherd: any reason you're not installing it from the repository?
[08:45] <cipherd> it isn't there
[08:45] <cipherd> i've searched for it cwillu
[08:45] <cwillu> cipherd: dapper?
[08:45] <garryF> Ok, I know I got the java installed but I'm not sure what ah yes, I remember, I used Easyubuntu, but lately its not been working for some folks so use at your own risk.
[08:45] <garryF> !easyubuntu
[08:45] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:45] <kholerabbi> I had a virtual printer on windows, adobe pdf...
[08:46] <cwillu> cipherd: make sure the universe/multiverse repositories are installed
[08:46] <cwillu> !java > cipherd
[08:46] <achandra> MegaQuark: I believe the wiki has the install for the jre...or if your brave you can use.. Automatix...but youll need to be careful
[08:46] <achandra> !wiki
[08:46] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[08:46] <kholerabbi> By default it should print to PostScript -
[08:46] <achandra> !Automatix
[08:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[08:46] <cipherd> ok cwillu.
[08:46] <garryF> Ye could probably joing hte channel and thye might be able to tell you if it's working, but I got the gava stuff working easy.
[08:46] <cwillu> kholerabbi: supposedly it's supposed to be easy on cups, but it looks like the config on ubuntu doesn't work at all
[08:47] <MeGaQuArK> I did use the automatrix, weeks ago, when it was updated for Dapper.
[08:47] <garryF> Supposedly Easyubuntu works for breezy and dapper both now.
[08:48] <kholerabbi> cwillu: Be default it prints out postscript files (.ps), open Firefox -> file -> print -> tick "Print to File", then print and see if it works for you
[08:48] <iamelite> I was playing UT2004, and my sound was Chopping and tweaking out. can anyone help me?
[08:49] <Cornellius> CaptiveNTFS ftw !
[08:49] <cwillu> kholerabbi: I need it to be its own printer device though;  the program is an old terminal beat;  I've got it printing via cups, but I need to work on some formatting/filtering, but I can't get _anything_ working from the commandline other than straight to the printer
[08:50] <cwillu> kholerabbi: lpr
[08:50] <garryF> The only time I had similar sound issues was when I had certain channels turned on in alsamixer when I was not supposed to. It was a lot of squealing and scratchiness. I had to keep fiddling, turning volume down and up till I got it working.
[08:50] <iamelite> Anyone?
[08:50] <kholerabbi> cwillu: Hmmm... can't help then :(
[08:50] <Cornellius> !captiventfs
[08:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about captiventfs
[08:50] <cwillu> kholerabbi: but you're supposed to pretend that you can!  :)
[08:51] <achandra> !beer
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about beer
[08:51] <kholerabbi> oh .. hehe (ummm.. look it up on wikipedia, you might even get pictures o_O)
[08:51] <MeGaQuArK> Can someone try an Address that has Java for me? Please go to http://andre.facadecomputer.com/nes/ and select one of the games. Does it work for you?
[08:51] <achandra> darn...
[08:51] <garryF> !computers
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[08:51] <Cornellius> I HIGHLY suggest that doing !ntfs or !captiventfs brings that link http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:51] <cwillu> !java > MeGaQuArK
[08:52] <Cornellius> Easiest way to read AND write on an NTFS partition
[08:52] <mDot> MeGaQuArKworks for me
[08:52] <garryF> Thats hilarious. I got the bot to say it didn't know anything about computers.
[08:52] <cwillu> !what you say
[08:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about what you say
[08:53] <garryF> !linux
[08:53] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:53] <cwillu> !cups
[08:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:53] <blocky> !women
[08:53] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[08:53] <mDot> im in a pinch and need to use a camera to read a SD memory card. The camera connects, but I can't figure out how to mount it as a drive
[08:53] <blocky> lol
[08:53] <achandra> MegaQuaArK: works for me...here... bubble bobbble works...lol
[08:54] <garryF> !nerds
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about nerds
[08:54] <johanbr> cwillu: For me, for instance when I print from evince, I get "Print to PDF" and "Print to Postscript" printer entries. Does that not help you?
[08:54] <iamelite> I am getting really bad, choppy sound when playing UT2004 in ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[08:55] <garryF> What is ut2004?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Guys, please stop fishing in the channel.  You can /msg ubotu if you wish.
[08:55] <cwillu> johanbr: do they show up as printers themselves, or as options on a printer?
[08:55] <iamelite> Unreal tournament 2004
[08:55] <blocky> iamelite, are you using a sound server?
[08:55] <MeGaQuArK> Hmmm, when I try it, I get the Firefox message about Installing Missing Plug-Ins. Any Suggestions?
[08:55] <garryF> True, it just wouldn't have been as funny.
[08:55] <iamelite> blocky, only what was installed with the OS. (so i have sound but...)
[08:55] <johanbr> cwillu: Well, I'd say they show up as menu options. They're not quite printers...
[08:56] <iamelite> blocky, then again... i might not know what you mean by sound server
[08:56] <achandra> MeGaQuarK: the jre1.5 that comes with the Automatix...plus.. the swift browser...worked for me flawlessly..
[08:56] <achandra> however..if you are using 64 bit...it will install 32 bit to make things work..
[08:57] <MeGaQuArK> Double Hmm, I used the Java that was installing by the Automatrix, and the normal Firefox.
[08:58] <blocky> iamelite, are you running ubuntu or kubuntu (gnome or kde)
[08:58] <iamelite> blocky, gnome
[08:58] <kholerabbi> How do I extract in terminal a tar.gz?
[08:58] <iamelite> blocky: ubuntu
[08:59] <cwillu> okay, printing as postscript ends up in lpr, which by default prints to the default gnome printer
[08:59] <xice> kholerabbi, tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[08:59] <kholerabbi> thanks
[08:59] <blocky> a sound server sits between the apps generating the sounds and the hardware interface thats playing it, and intercepts everything
[08:59] <cwillu> pdf seems to be something else, but I still need to figure out how to address it from the command line
[08:59] <rock-lobster> kholerabbi, if u ever forget, man tar gives most common examples
[08:59] <blocky> which can slow it down quite a bit
[09:00] <kholerabbi> ok thanks
[09:00] <johanbr> cwillu: Not if you choose location as "File" or "Custom".
[09:00] <blocky> if you're not running kde you probably dont have arts running, which is good
[09:01] <johanbr> cwillu: Oh, you want to do this from, say, lpr? That's doable but a bit complicated.
[09:01] <cwillu> johanbr: exactly :)
[09:01] <cwillu> but yes
[09:02] <garryF> blocky I just had an idea. Folks could "Fish" for funny uboto responses privately and then when they find one they could tell someone it, and get laughs that way. I liked the women one.
[09:02] <cwillu> although this (http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/) seems close
[09:03] <nnk> I'm trying to install ipw2100, and I think I have to recompile the kernel.  Would recompiling using a higher version of kernel break my system?  (I'm currently on 2.6.15-23; and I'm looking at 2.6.17...)
[09:03] <blocky> maybe they could say the really good ones in the channel so everyone can enjoy them
[09:03] <cwillu> nnk: it might, but as long as you don't remove the old kernel (i.e., you use the method that generates a deb that you install), you won't be hosed
[09:04] <blocky> i was hoping it would say "I know nothing about women"
[09:04] <cwillu> caught you off guard blocky :)
[09:04] <nnk> cwillu: I have no idea how to make a deb....
[09:04] <garryF> blocky its funny, I know that response was put there cause someoen was hoping someone would try it.
[09:04] <cwillu> nnk: there's a kernel building method for ubuntu that ends up with that as the end result
[09:04] <nnk> cwillu:  I was planning to go with the classic ./configure, make, make install and pray and that it worked.
[09:05] <nnk> cwillu: where can I find info on that?
[09:05] <iamelite> Im getting choppy sound in 3d games. I have a Soundblaster Audigy 2
[09:05] <johanbr> cwillu: There's too much traffic in this channel to be able to give me a good explanation for how to add a pseudoprinter. Send me a private message if you'd like a short description.
[09:05] <cwillu> nnk:  I believe on the ubuntu site;  ftr, I'm running a kernel.org build patched with ck11, no ubuntu patches, but the deb method still worked, and nothing much is hosed here (no boot/shutdown screens, but I can live with it)
[09:05] <garryF> I remember when I was compiling kernels, I would just have to recompile my video driver, but now that they are now as precompiled binaries, I dunno how that effects things.
[09:06] <garryF> !what I'm talking about! > garryf
[09:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about what I'm talking about!
[09:07] <cwillu> garryF  thinks he's clever :)
[09:07] <garryF> Ooops, I did not mean to do that publicly. Must have been the double ! points sorry.
[09:07] <nnk> cwillu: I will gladly trade good wireless for my boot/shutdown screens...I'll take a look, thanks.
[09:07] <garryF> cwillu hehe
[09:08] <cwillu> nnk: just so ya know, when I say boot/shutdown, it ends up displaying absolutely nothing at all until x starts :)
[09:08] <cwillu> i.e., no progress of any kind, no text, etc, just grub, 30 seconds of silence, and then X
[09:08] <nnk> hrm...ok, that is fine....as long as my computer never-ever breaks during bootup/shutdown....
[09:09] <nnk> Ah well, I'll take a look at Ubuntu's site.  I've never compiled a kernel anyways, so the more info the better.
[09:10] <garryF> I have the same issue. My computer won't turn off and its with all os'es but just reboots. People say its the motherboard, but if I fiddle with drivers, it willl sometimes start working for a few weeks. A dead motherboard componant just don't start working and then stop working. Something else is in the mix. What I do not know.
[09:12] <garryF> I think its something about apm but I can't find out what, I do note that my apm configuration choices do not appear in the gui.
[09:13] <rixth> Why should fucking Nautilus use 100% CPU?
[09:13] <johanbr> cwillu: For the blank screen, try adding vesafb and fbcon to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules before compiling.
[09:13] <rixth> It's really annoying.
[09:13] <blocky> is the ck kernel faster than ubuntu for desktop responsiveness?
[09:13] <sss> hey guys ,how can i open a chm file?
[09:13] <rixth> sss, gnochm or xchm'
[09:14] <cwillu> blocky: I like it myself
[09:14] <dxdemetriou> can I make the mounted partitions on /media to appeared on desktop like Breezy? In Places/Computer when mounted, are disappeared the volumes
[09:14] <cwillu> johanbr: ahh, thanks
[09:14] <garryF> rixth: I  have heard about that. Lots of folks having the same truble. I'm trying to remember what they found out.
[09:14] <blocky> i have nothing better to do tonight so i think im gonna compile a new kernel
[09:14] <sss> rixth ,what the gnochm and xchm r? softwares?
[09:14] <cwillu> blocky: I like it myself;  among other things, when synaptic is going hard, the rest of the system can still be made responsive\
[09:14] <rixth> garryF, it mostly occurs when I am looking at an FTP server
[09:15] <rixth> sss, huh?
[09:15] <rixth> Yeah, they're software.
[09:15] <cwillu> blocky: and if you've had an app be unresponsive for a few seconds to a few minutes after being away from the machine for a while, it'll take care of it too, in a better fashion then simply setting swappiness=0
[09:16] <sss> rixth,any other ways?
[09:16] <gteppel_> I'm getting the following error: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu12) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed When I try to install libc6-dev. I'm running Breezy and my kernel is  2.6.12-9-686-smp whats wrong?
[09:16] <Hit3k> !dualscreen
[09:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualscreen
[09:16] <Hit3k> aw..
[09:16] <cwillu> !xinerama
[09:16] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[09:16] <protocol1> i just installed flight gear on dapper...why doesnt it open?
[09:17] <Hit3k> ah
[09:17] <cwillu> Hit3k: just gotta know what to ask for :)
[09:17] <Hit3k> cwillu, :D thx
[09:17] <garryF> I remember something about them seeing it when ftp'ing. Hmmm, I wonder if it's routing through ssh which is an encrypted ftp.
[09:17] <johanbr> gteppel_: You're trying to upgrade libc6 only, but you should also upgrade libc6-dev.
[09:18] <cwillu> yay!
[09:18] <cwillu> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/#2233
[09:18] <RandomGuy> Hi, I need a vnc viewer for windows to connect to my ubuntu tightvnc server, any suggestions?
[09:18] <garryF> Grats!
[09:18] <rixth> RandomGuy, realvnc
[09:18] <cwillu> just gotta get that chmod command added to the deb script
[09:18] <gteppel_> johanbar: libc6 is already installed
[09:18] <RandomGuy> ty rixth
[09:19] <cwillu> RandomGuy: I like ultravnc myself
[09:19] <johanbr> gteppel_: Right, but if you upgrade one of libc6 and libc6-dev, you also need to upgrade the other.
[09:20] <gteppel_> i just did a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but i still get this error
[09:20] <nnk> you know, the docs on kernels in ubuntuwiki aren't helpful at all.
[09:21] <johanbr> gteppel_: Try "apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev".
[09:21] <cwillu> nnk, give me a sec, I might have it bookedmarked
[09:21] <gteppel_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:21] <gteppel_>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1ubuntu12) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[09:21] <gteppel_> is what happens when I ran that
[09:21] <nnk> cwillu: thanks.
[09:22] <cwillu> nnk:  I believe this is how I did it:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835
[09:22] <johanbr> gteppel_: Hmm. Try removing libc6-dev, upgrading libc6 and then reinstalling libc6-dev.
[09:23] <gteppel_> its not installed
[09:23] <cipherd> why is there "circular dependency" in some packages???
[09:23] <L-----D> !tomcat
[09:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about tomcat
[09:23] <`underOATH> hi, are there any major differences between breezey and the new ubuntu ?
[09:23] <johanbr> gteppel_: What does "dpkg -l libc6-dev" print?
[09:24] <cwillu> `underOATH: in short, yes
[09:24] <gteppel_> is it okay to post in here?
[09:24] <cipherd> !java
[09:24] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:24] <gteppel_> its 6 lines
[09:24] <`underOATH> cwillu: so it is worth the download ?
[09:24] <johanbr> gteppel_: The line that actually has libc6-dev in it should be all you need.
[09:25] <gteppel_> un  libc6-dev      <none>         (no description available)
[09:25] <rixth> perl -i -p -e"s/group=\`group\`=/g" *.php <<< how can I run that without begin dropped to a command line with just a >? I am escaping the backticks....
[09:25] <cwillu> `underOATH: in my opinion, yes
[09:25] <johanbr> gteppel_: That looks right. And apt-get still complains about libc6-dev? Weird.,. Try "apt-get -f install".
[09:26] <Chetwin> can anyone tell me how to install java?
[09:26] <rixth> !tell Chetwin about java
[09:27] <gteppel_> still doesn't work, isn't -f fix?
[09:27] <gteppel_> what about using force
[09:28] <johanbr> rixth: Is that a valid perl fragment ? Can you use "s/" without replacing it with something, i.e. without doing "s/blah/foo/" ?
[09:29] <ubuntu12345> hi
[09:29] <rixth> johanbr, that was it, I was missing the replacement but it was also dropping me to >
[09:29] <ubuntu12345> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[09:29] <ubuntu12345> dd: writing to `/dev/hda': No space left on device .......... does this mean the formatting is over?
[09:29] <johanbr> gteppel_: You can always try "dpkg --force all -P libc6-dev".
[09:29] <poseidon> !sound
[09:29] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:30] <ubuntu12345> anyone know?
[09:30] <Moodles> is there a test app for sound?
[09:30] <cwillu> ubuntu12345: I believe so
[09:31] <Moodles> oh I got sound now
[09:31] <Moodles> I changedit from trident to sis
[09:31] <cwillu> ubuntu12345: wiping it at least
[09:31] <johanbr> ubuntu12345: Yes. Using dd without being very sure of what you're doing can have severe consequences, though.
[09:31] <`underOATH> cwillu: i agree, the new ubuntu looks really nice. thank you for recommending it
[09:31] <ubuntu12345> johanbr, i was trying to wipe my HD
[09:31] <ubuntu12345> is it OK ?
[09:32] <ubuntu12345> i have to return it to the store
[09:32] <Dustdancer> hi, first of all, sorry for my bad english i got a question bout terratec aureon 7.1 universe and ubuntu. i got sometimes (with some programs like pykaraoke/teamspeak/cedega etc) the problem that the sound is too fast. i use the ice1724 for the soundcard
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> What can I use to open a .pub file (Publisher 2003)?
[09:32] <RedBlades> Hi all, I was just on Linmodems, and I found that I need to pay to getthe driver I need
[09:32] <RedBlades> Very annoyed
[09:32] <johanbr> ubuntu12345: Yes, that means it ran until the end of the disk.
[09:33] <ubuntu12345> should i do a zero also?
[09:33] <nnk> cwillu: this is great, thanks
[09:33] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso, i did alot of reading on this a week or so ago, and i could not come up with anything
[09:33] <johanbr> ubuntu12345: Only if you're extremely paranoid.
[09:33] <blocky> can I patch vanilla <IP_ADDRESS> with 2.6.17-ck1
[09:33] <ubuntu12345> johanbr, how long would zero take to complete?
[09:33] <ubuntu12345> i think urandom took more than 12 hours to finish
[09:34] <johanbr> ubuntu12345: No idea. Probably about the same time as urandom.
[09:34] <ubuntu12345> oh jeez
[09:34] <ubuntu12345> lol
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander: As I suspected.  Plan B: How to explain to people that giving me a file that's only openable with a particular piece of software that I'm not going to buy is useless?
[09:35] <johanbr> tonyyarusso: My response to people who send me Word documents is to send Latex files in return.
[09:35] <RedBlades> How do I use an ecternal dialup modem with Linux?
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander: Would I even be able to open this with anything free if I was on Windows?
[09:35] <driggers> does ubuntu support .package and/or .rpm?
[09:36] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso: my boss (at a computer storenonetheless) sent me my work schedule as a pub file, i emailed him back and he sent me it as an image
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> johanbr: Okay, that made me laugh.  Although, I _can_ open Word docs, which is why this is so annoying.
[09:36] <RedBlades> I'm confused, because windows uses it and says "no dial tone"
[09:37] <timothyzander> tonyyaruso: not that i found, i tried reading it with notepad, to try to get some sense of what it contained.   however i was thoroughly unsuccessful
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander, johanbr: Is there another app they could use to put together this newsletter other than the usual office suites?  (Which I have no idea why they aren't using - will ask and harass.)
[09:37] <Warbo> Note to self: Run apt-get clean on a filesystem before compressing it :)
[09:38] <iamelite> Im getting Very choppy sound, almost like static in 3d games. it seems to stop and go, Clear one second, then just slowing and stuttering. Graphics however are flawless.
[09:38] <johanbr> tonyyarusso: I haven't followed your discussion very closely, but no matter what app they're using it ought to be able to export to pdf.
[09:38] <Warbo> driggers: RPMs are supported (convert them to .deb with alien). .package? Is that self-installing?
[09:39] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso: i havent looked into it, i just wanted to read the one file
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> johanbr: True, but entirely useless for this particular purpose.  (I have to make a web version of said newletter and wanted to save myself retyping all of the articles.)
[09:39] <driggers> .package does nothing useful on my computer (ubuntu) :D  i know nothing else about it
[09:40] <RedBlades> Do I just plug it in?
[09:40] <Warbo> driggers: try running "file filename.package" to see what it is
[09:40] <RedBlades> 'mreally confused...
[09:40] <argarg> !wma
[09:40] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <argarg> !wmv
[09:41] <johanbr> tonyyarusso: And it can't export to *anything* that's reasonably open? html, rtf, odf, ... ?
[09:41] <Warbo> RedBlades: External dial-up modems pretty much all work (no drivers or anything needed)
[09:41] <driggers> Warbo:  returns Bourne-Again shell script text executable
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> johanbr: I don't know.  I've never used Publisher or whatever ungodly thing they were using before.
[09:42] <yacek19> which package contains xorgconfig?
[09:42] <timothyzander> publisher can export to lots of formats
[09:42] <Warbo> driggers: As I thought, it is self installing. Run it in a shell with "sh filename.package" (since it wants to install something you may want to use "sudo sh filename.package")
[09:43] <driggers> ok...
[09:43] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso: thats what microsoft recomends to people who dont own it, call up the people who sent it to you, and ask them to send it in  another format....  funny that they dont have a way to read the existing file unless you buy the program....
[09:43] <Warbo> yacek19: You can reconfigure Xorg with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (Ubuntu's X configuring program is built into the package xserver-xorg)
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander: That's what I did - this is the third unreadable format they've sent me.
[09:44] <driggers> crazy.  its doing stuff :)  if theres anything that need improvement in linux it is installing stuff
[09:44] <Warbo> driggers: If there's anything which needs improving it's getting people to use Synaptic and stop downloading ".package" files
[09:44] <Slaryn> Hey I'm having a problem with my wireless card, can anybody help me out?
[09:45] <johanbr> Slaryn: What's the card and what's the problem?
[09:45] <driggers> heh.  Warbo armagetron is not in there :(
[09:45] <driggers> and it is a very good game
[09:45] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso:  i am sorry, but thats a bit too much.... how did they mannage to get three different  proprietary formats?!?
[09:45] <Warbo> driggers: Ermmmm.... Yes it is
[09:45] <driggers> oh?
[09:45] <Warbo> !tell driggers about universe
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander: Black magic, I think.
[09:45] <timothyzander> tonyyarusso:  i think it can do html, or at the very least an image
[09:45] <timothyzander> and i know it can do postscript
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> timothyzander: I'll give that a shot, thanks.
[09:46] <Slaryn> johanbr - it's a D-Link AirPlus DWL-G650, connecting on a public network... I can connect to some things (some websites, IRC, etc.) but not others (google.com, AIM/MSN, etc.).  It just seems sort of sporadic, what it wants to connect to and what it doesn't.
[09:46] <Slaryn> Any idea what's up?
[09:46] <johanbr> Slaryn: Do you know which chipset/driver that uses?
[09:47] <Slaryn> johanbr: No idea.
[09:47] <Slaryn> johanbr do you mean like wlan0, eth0, etc?
[09:48] <Slaryn> It's on ath0 if that matters
[09:48] <driggers> Warbo:  i don't see it.  i open Synaptic Package Manager, look under games and its not there.
[09:49] <johanbr> Slaryn: That means it's an Atheros, which seems right. If the card doesn't work reliably, that usually means that the driver is buggy or (less likely) that you have a hardware problem. Neither of those is very easy to fix.
[09:49] <driggers> oh.  you have to hack the manager...
[09:49] <Warbo> driggers: Have you enabled Universe and Multiverse then reloaded the package list?
[09:49] <driggers> no.  i'm just reading how to do that now.
[09:49] <ompaul> Slaryn, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:49] <Slaryn> johanbr: Ah... it worked fine on my Windows machine, so I don't think it's the card
[09:50] <Slaryn> Latest 6.06
[09:50] <ompaul> Slaryn, okay, my idea falls flat on its face there
[09:50] <johanbr> Slaryn: I was just about to suggest upgrading. :)
[09:50] <ompaul> Slaryn, have you looked at ndiswrapper yet?
[09:50] <Slaryn> Haha ;)
[09:50] <Slaryn> No I haven't
[09:51] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[09:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:51] <stef_> any idea why "df -h" doesn't show the correct free space? (/dev/sdb1             294G  285G     0 100% /mnt/sdb1)
[09:51] <kabobuntu> stef_, try df -H
[09:51] <Slaryn> I was looking through some of the other wifi docs, nothing help
[09:51] <Slaryn> I'll check this wrapper one.
[09:52] <stef_> kabobuntu: the same, it says space 100% occupied
[09:52] <johanbr> Slaryn: I agree that ndiswrapper is probably your best option. Another would be to start compiling bleeding-edge kernels, but that can be kind of complicated and time consuming.
[09:53] <stef_> the weird thing is I can write more data directly on the hard drive, but if I try to do it using samba, it says "not enough free space". any clue why?
[09:53] <ompaul> Slaryn, is it build in or pluggable?
[09:53] <Slaryn> ompaul: it's a card, pluggable
[09:54] <driggers> beautiful  thanks Warbo
[09:54] <Slaryn> I got the driver information: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[09:55] <ompaul> Slaryn, see if you can borrow another one
[09:55] <ompaul> Slaryn, just to test
[09:55] <Slaryn> I'm at work... :/
[09:55] <Slaryn> And it's 1am
[09:55] <ompaul> ahh that might be a bit of a pain
[09:56] <Slaryn> Heh
[09:56] <Slaryn> I may try a borrow later though.  For now I'm reading up on ndiswrapper
[09:57] <Slaryn> Hopefully the package will download, only some seem to work with my little problem.
[09:59] <Tom39Away> If my network wasn't hooked up during an install of dapper, and now it is, how do I go about setting up or configuring my ethernet/wireless connections?
[09:59] <Warbo> How do I change whether aptitude installs "recommended" or not?
[09:59] <criptic> Tom39Away,
[09:59] <criptic> try using a console
[09:59] <criptic> and typing sudo network-admin
[10:00] <GOwin> anyone familiar with OCR programs?
[10:00] <Tom39Away> criptic, right, that'll bring up the network settings dialogue, but the connections themselves aren't configured and don't appear there.
[10:00] <yacek19> why if I use sudo I have to enter user password not root password?
[10:00] <Warbo> I did a few OCR exams recently............
[10:01] <Guardian> hello
[10:01] <Slaryn> ompaul / johanbr : packages won't download, ironically XD
[10:01] <GOwin> In breezy, I think I once found an OCR app in Synaptic for volume scanning/ocr projects but now i can't find it
[10:01] <Slaryn> Could either of you try and DCC send me ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk?
[10:01] <GOwin> anyone got any idea?
[10:01] <criptic> Tom39Away, arnt u using DHCP
[10:01] <criptic> ?
[10:01] <criptic> or are u manually assigning IP's to each machine on the network?\
[10:02] <Warbo> yacek19: Because that is the point of sudo. It doesn't make you become root (unless you give it special options) it gives your regular account super user priviledges. Root grants you these permissions, so it must make sure that it is you who is using them
[10:02] <Tom39Away> criptic, sure, but I was not connected to the internet during my install of dapper.  It told me because of that, it couldn't configure the internet connectoins at that time and I'd be able to later on.
[10:02] <ompaul> Slaryn, lets not bother with that but point you to packages.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <Slaryn> Ah that may work
[10:03] <Slaryn> That's why this problem is so strange ompaul... I can connect to websites but not download packages?
[10:03] <criptic> ok Tom39Away
[10:03] <Slaryn> Or even SOME websites don't work, google.com always times out
[10:03] <Slaryn> It's odd.  :/
[10:03] <criptic> so are u connecting to a network that has an internet connection?
[10:03] <criptic> like u have a router that dials out?
[10:03] <ompaul> Slaryn, the last time I saw that kind of an issue if other computers can do it then I suggest you find a new card
[10:04] <criptic> sudo network-admin, select the eth card select DHCP and then yes activate yes or what ever the confirms are
[10:04] <Tom39Away> criptic, I'm connecting to an ethernet connection that is always connected, like a cable modem.
[10:04] <criptic> and then it should be wroking fine
[10:04] <criptic> yea
[10:04] <criptic> using DHCP should be fine
[10:04] <ompaul> Slaryn,  and now you get to choose one that is marked as working ;-)
[10:04] <Tom39Away> criptic, no ethernet connection appears in the dialogue in sudo network-admin
[10:04] <cwillu> hmm
[10:04] <criptic> there is no eth connection<?
[10:05] <Tom39Away> criptic, it does not appear in network-admin, no.
[10:05] <cwillu> any way to convert pcl or epson-text-formatting printer output to ps?
[10:05] <criptic> hmm im not sure then Tom39Away
[10:05] <criptic> i never had to add mine
[10:06] <Tom39Away> criptic, of course not.  Thanks anyway
[10:06] <yacek19> why if I use sudo and some X app I get: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server.  I know that solution is "xhost +" but I am looking for safer solution
[10:07] <ompaul> cwillu, you could redirect the output of the file to text and then to ps but you most likely want formatting so I could not herel there
[10:07] <ompaul> cwillu, help that is
[10:09] <timothyzander> has anyone here tried to install xmms2 using apt?
[10:09] <Slaryn> ompaul - ndiswrapper and ndisgtk installing, thanks :)
[10:09] <Slaryn> I'll see what those can do for me
[10:10] <Slaryn> What exactly do they do anyways?
[10:10] <cwillu> ompaul: ya;  I'm probably going to write a filter to convert to html or something;  pain I didn't want, but whatever :)
[10:11] <scheuri> hi all
[10:11] <Orgullomoore> hi
[10:13] <QMario>  Does anyone know of a program in Linux even that can convert .pnm files to .pdf files, or can scan directly to PDF?
[10:14] <ompaul> Slaryn, you can also use the url from your /etc/apt/sources.list and find packages that way
[10:14] <yacek19> why if I use sudo and some X app I get: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server.  I know that solution is "xhost +" but I am looking for safer solution
[10:15] <Timir> ANyone in here run a NWN server..?
[10:15] <glick> howody
[10:16] <oohal> yacek19, it's because the root user doesn't have access to your X display
[10:16] <yacek19> I know but how to grant him permissions?
[10:16] <oohal> with your Xauthority file
[10:17] <oohal> it's in your home dir
[10:17] <scheuri> yacek19: actually you dont...:)...if you want to start an application with CLI just do it without sudo
[10:18] <scheuri> yacek19: if you want to run that application with root-privilges (dont do this!) then...ehhrr...are you using kde or gnome?
[10:18] <yacek19> kde
[10:18] <avis> what is the name of the gnome network management applet for wifi ?  the one that can be apt'ed.
[10:18] <scheuri> yacek19: with the kde-menu you have an option saying "Run Command" or something
[10:19] <spikeb> avis: network-manager i believe.
[10:19] <m0gsi> Hey all i have a problem, Last night downloading i accidentally allowed the hard disk to fill , i rebooted and i couldnt log into gnome. I have cleared 500mb and now gnome loads but very very slowly any ideas?
[10:19] <scheuri> yacek19: should be third or fourth from bottom
[10:19] <yacek19> yup I know I use gentoo for 1 year but I would like sometimes to run X apps with su
[10:20] <scheuri> yacek19: sorry, then I cant help
[10:20] <yacek19> thanks
[10:20] <m0gsi> Any ideas?
[10:20] <oohal> yacek19, like i said copy your .Xauthority file to ~root/
[10:20] <oohal> should do the trick
[10:20] <scheuri> m0gsi: is it possible to post your output of "df -h"?
[10:20] <yacek19> but what it does? can you explain me?
[10:21] <oohal> X has a wacko authentication system
[10:21] <oohal> the .Xauthority file is a kind of magic cookie
[10:21] <rohan> hmm
[10:21] <rohan> for edubuntu shipit sends install cd, and not desktop cd ?
[10:22] <^dE^> how can i install xchat? i`ve got ubuntu 6.06?
[10:22] <yacek19> oohal will it work after restart?
[10:22] <scheuri> ^dE^: are you using synaptic? adept? CLI?
[10:22] <oohal> yacek19, dunno
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> ^dE^: Enable universe.  Install xchat.
[10:22] <yacek19> let me check
[10:23] <^dE^> tonyyarusso how to enable universe? i`m a bit lame in linux.. :)
[10:23] <Ng> !repos > ^dE^
[10:23] <^dE^> :)
[10:23] <rohan> !repos
[10:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:23] <Gurpartap> help please, how to get DSL working with realtek rtl 9138D netword card...
[10:24] <Yonda> Hey guys ive just installed a Radeon 9600XT. I previously had a 9200 and that worked fine without any configuration, but this one is proving more difficult...are there some drivers to install?
[10:24] <rohan> hmm.. no one has rec'd the edubuntu shipit cd ?
[10:24] <Gurpartap> I HAVE
[10:25] <Gurpartap> got today..
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> rohan: Not yet.  Hopefully soon.
[10:25] <rohan> tonyyarusso: :)
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Gurpartap: You have?!  What country?
[10:25] <Gurpartap> India
[10:25] <Gurpartap> got edubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, max packages today
[10:25] <Gurpartap> just 2 hours back
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Interesting.  I wouldn't have thought shipping would get to India faster than the US.
[10:25] <Gurpartap> :D
[10:26] <rohan> i have too
[10:26] <rohan> Gurpartap: i am from india too
[10:26] <rohan> so u got edubuntu
[10:26] <Gurpartap> I can get from name :)
[10:26] <rohan> are those live or install cd ?
[10:26] <rohan> Gurpartap: ;)
[10:26] <rohan> hum hindi hai
[10:26] <Gurpartap> to install any of those packages, you have to run the live cd, and then click INSTALL icon on desktop to install the CD
[10:26] <rohan> Gurpartap: dude
[10:27] <Gurpartap> :P
[10:27] <rohan> Gurpartap: is the cd live and bootable, like the ubuntu and kubuntu ones ?!
[10:27] <Gurpartap> yes
[10:27] <rohan> the _edubuntu_ cd ?
[10:27] <rohan> it runs for ya ?
[10:27] <m0gsi> Hey sorry all i had to go a second
[10:27] <Gurpartap> single CD is live+install CD
[10:27] <Gurpartap> yes
[10:27] <scheuri> m0gsi: is it possible to post your output of "df -h"?
[10:27] <jsgotangco> the edubuntu cd is not a live cd
[10:27] <rohan> Gurpartap: yes, but the cd THEY sent me is not live !
[10:27] <rohan> jsgotangco: exactly !
[10:27] <rohan> jsgotangco: its the "install" cd right, not the "desktop" cd..
[10:27] <jsgotangco> rohan: because its an LTSP install server by default
[10:28] <Gurpartap> oh
[10:28] <Gurpartap> sorry :P :(
[10:28] <rohan> oh ok, jsgotangco
[10:28] <heatxsink> hello all anyone in here every use netmanager with ubuntu dapper, and noticed that it conflicts with whatever is configuring the networking connection by default in dapper?
[10:28] <jsgotangco> rohan: it doesn't make sense to ship an edubuntu live CD because its basically an ubuntu workstation
[10:28] <rohan> so LTSP server can't be installed from the gui installer ?
[10:28] <rohan> jsgotangco: oh ok
[10:28] <P-NuT> Hi all, I have an atheros wifi card and am using dapper. How do I get it to come up with ath0?
[10:28] <m0gsi> /dev/hda2             6.5G  5.7G  491M  93% /
[10:28] <jsgotangco> rohan: but the edubuntu install cd has a workstation option so if you dont need LTSP you can choose that
[10:28] <rohan> !atheros
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about atheros
[10:29] <m0gsi> That is my / partition
[10:29] <Gurpartap> rohan: any howto to get bsnl dsl working :P with realtek rtl 8139d network card?
[10:29] <scheuri> m0gsi: well, okay...do you have a seperate /home and /var?
[10:29] <m0gsi> No
[10:29] <rohan> Gurpartap: no need for any howto .. it just works ! but i am in mumbai and mtnl has no dialer like bsnl :)
[10:29] <rohan> Gurpartap: just use ppp* tools
[10:29] <m0gsi> just one big /
[10:29] <rohan> Gurpartap: pppoeconfig
[10:29] <scheuri> m0gsi: so, everything is in /
[10:29] <m0gsi> i've got windows partitions on /dos /dos2
[10:29] <Gurpartap> but that's for dialup? :\
[10:30] <m0gsi> Yes
[10:30] <scheuri> m0gsi: well, that is (I hope) not important
[10:30] <m0gsi> Really ? you think i like have hard drive errors or something?
[10:30] <scheuri> m0gsi: try to use CLI and say "sudo aptitude clean"
[10:30] <Gurpartap> i have not muchi dont have much idea yet about it, do i run pppoeconfig tool ? anything else..
[10:30] <Gurpartap> :\
[10:30] <scheuri> m0gsi: who are you talking to?
[10:30] <m0gsi> Ok i am using that command
[10:31] <m0gsi> Sorry Scheuri i am talking to you
[10:31] <scheuri> m0gsi: ah, okay...was a bit confused
[10:31] <m0gsi> Scheuri = i'm not used to irc
[10:31] <Gurpartap> (rohan)
[10:31] <scheuri> m0gsi: no worries...:)...we are here to learn
[10:31] <m0gsi> Scheuri: Ok i have ran that command appears to be ok!
[10:32] <scheuri> m0gsi: any changes to "df -h"?
[10:32] <m0gsi> Scheuri: massive change
[10:32] <m0gsi> /dev/hda2             6.5G  5.2G  985M  85% /
[10:32] <MistaED> hey can anyone tell me why, when you control+c at bootup in ubuntu (for say, a hard drive scan you have no time for), the system gives you root access? i'd say that's a pretty big security risk right there isn't it?
[10:32] <scheuri> m0gsi: okay...one last commad "du -sh /home"
[10:33] <m0gsi> 2.0G /home
[10:33] <scheuri> m0gsi: okay, fair enough....well then...I hope it will start faster now...
[10:33] <scheuri> m0gsi: with "aptitude --help" you will find out what the command just did...
[10:34] <linuxboy> what is the size of the ubuntu repo? I want to mirror it
[10:34] <OrgulloKmoore> guh, my Internet connection is not fixed after all :(
[10:34] <OrgulloKmoore> I keep on getting disconnected every once in a while
[10:34] <m0gsi> Schueri: Out of interest why would the hard disk being full stop gnome from loading?
[10:34] <scheuri> linuxboy: about 10 GByte...and I am quite sure, that universe is NOT included
[10:34] <linuxboy> scheuri: shot
[10:35] <scheuri> m0gsi: well...my guess was, that gnome was not able to write into your home anymore (there is some space reserved for root on your harddisk), but...well...
[10:35] <scheuri> m0gsi: cant say for sure...if it does NOT fix it, we have to find other solutions and causes
[10:36] <m0gsi> Scheuri : Well it worked fine before i filled the HDD , after my download is done i will restart and see.
[10:36] <scheuri> m0gsi: okay...just make sure you dont get too far over 90%
[10:37] <m0gsi> Scheuri : Well once my downloads finish i move them to another partition so it will drop by 700mb odd
[10:37] <scheuri> m0gsi: harddisk usage of course...the download is okay over 90%...;)
[10:37] <scheuri> m0gsi: okay
[10:37] <scheuri> linuxboy: maybe it is less than 10....maybe 8...but it is quite a lot
[10:37] <`underOATH> anyone know how to get the official aim for linux to work on ubuntu, i don't like gaim
[10:38] <ari> hi
[10:38] <m0gsi> Scheuri : :P lol Thanks for the help
[10:38] <ari> hi
[10:38] <scheuri> m0gsi: welcome
[10:38] <m0gsi> Hi ari
[10:38] <linuxboy> scheuri: thats still without universe ?
[10:38] <scheuri> linuxboy: I am not quite sure, but unverse is full of stuff, I cant imagine that fits into 10 GB...but I cant say for sure
[10:39] <scheuri> `underOATH: there is kopete, licq (icq only)....
[10:39] <scheuri> `underOATH: but what do you mean by "official aim for ubuntu"?
[10:39] <m0gsi> Does he mean under wine?
[10:40] <`underOATH> scheuri: i said for linux
[10:40] <`underOATH> scheuri: www.aim.com
[10:40] <BSoDirl> i dont think 'aim' has a linux client, then again I've never checked.
[10:40] <scheuri> `underOATH: sorry, tought you used aim as general word for instant messengers...my bad
[10:40] <MistaED> the aim linux client is terribly out of date afaik
[10:41] <DelPede> My laptop won't mount NFS drives at start up, but when i do mount -a after boot, they mount all right
[10:41] <`underOATH> i know
[10:41] <`underOATH> but i'm used to how it looks
[10:41] <mdke> I read lots of mailing lists with gmane... but my office firewall blocks the relevant port for news.gmane.org (119), does anyone know if I can get it over port 80 in my newsreader?
[10:41] <DelPede> everything was working fine untill i updated to dapper
[10:41] <`underOATH> i've been using aim my whole life
[10:41] <m0gsi> I never knew AIM had a linux version!
[10:41] <BSoDirl> oh so there is one? *blinks*
[10:41] <MistaED> `underOATH: i found gaim to look just like aim for the chat windows and namelist
[10:41] <m0gsi> Ya really
[10:41] <MistaED> except without all those messy ads
[10:42] <Ng> DelPede: I would  guess that's because mountall happens before networking in /etc/rcS.d/
[10:42] <`underOATH> i donno, i just don't like it, it's werid
[10:42] <m0gsi> Anyway i am going for big reboot now lol
[10:42] <Ng> DelPede: as a quick hack you could put a mount -a in /etc/rc.local
[10:42] <BSoDirl> gaim owns.
[10:42] <DelPede> Ng - sweet. that would prolly work
[10:42] <udo> does anyone have access runner usb modem in ubuntu dapper?
[10:42] <DelPede> for now
[10:42] <DelPede> thanks
[10:43] <Ng> DelPede: it might be worth checking launchpad.net for a bug about that and if not reporting it, because it should really do another mount after the networking is up, for things like nfs/smb/cifs/etc
[10:43] <scheuri> `underOATH: arent there any instructions on the homepage how to install aim Linux version?
[10:43] <DelPede> Ng: true. It's funny. After update, i had to install statd and autofs again
[10:43] <scheuri> `underOATH: I have a big ad saying there is aim 1.5 available for linux...
[10:44] <Storm1> Is there a simple manual for how to set up an ATI 9000 Pro with dual screen support?
[10:44] <scheuri> Storm1: have you searched wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:44] <Storm1> I tried to
[10:44] <mdke> there isn't any documentation on wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <arno> Hello, I have a problem with my Windows XP and Suse both virtuelle machines. They don't detect my sound device... xhat should I do? thanks
[10:44] <BSoDirl> you can use nAIM, if you like consoles :)
[10:44] <mdke> use help.ubuntu.com please
[10:45] <MistaED> i remember the aim for linux not working due to out of date dependencies or something
[10:45] <Storm1> but I can do that again if you'd like to have specific questions
[10:45] <udo> how can i detect my usb modem in my ubuntu?
[10:45] <snoops> since this dapper release is all about long term support, does that mean new ubuntu releases.. (after dapper - like big fundamental changes (warty - breezy - dapper)) won't happen as much?
[10:45] <scheuri> mdke: well, wiki is better for searching, isnt it?
[10:46] <BSoDirl> gAIM an nAIM are probably your best bet :[
[10:46] <scheuri> and kopete...
[10:46] <m0gsi> Hey scheuri
[10:46] <m0gsi> It works
[10:46] <scheuri> hey m0gsi
[10:46] <m0gsi> Faster than before!
[10:46] <scheuri> m0gsi: great...:)
[10:46] <m0gsi> Thanks loads!
[10:47] <scheuri> m0gsi: very welcome
[10:47] <mdke> scheuri: no, there _isn't_ any documentation there...
[10:47] <udo> how can i detect my usb modem in my ubuntu?
[10:47] <scheuri> mdke: oookay...so what is at wiki.ubuntu.com? howtos? explanations? experience reports?
[10:48] <scheuri> mdke: beg your pardon, but I dont want to sound like a whiteass...but...what is wiki then?
[10:48] <SaTaN`> where can i fande an apropriate decoder for mp3s?
[10:48] <scheuri> mdke: wiseass...arrgg....my english
[10:48] <mdke> scheuri: no documentation at all. It is used for development specifications, community development, etc
[10:49] <P-NuT> is wireless broken under dapper server? ath0 used to be there, but it's not coming up anymore. Is it not enabled in the kernel by default?
[10:49] <SaTaN`> where can i fande an apropriate decoder for mp3s?
[10:50] <scheuri> mdke: okay...hmm...thanks for clarifying...but it makes (to me) not much sense...the wiki includes too many how-tos for being just development
[10:50] <mdke> scheuri: it doesn't include any howtos
[10:50] <snoops> !restricted > SaTaN`
[10:50] <SaTaN`> thnx
[10:50] <mdke> so anyone know if I can use gmane in a newsreader over port 80?
[10:50] <snoops> you're welcome :)
[10:51] <scheuri> mdke: uhm...okay...how do you call all the texts which explain me to install or configure certain software? just written for development?
[10:52] <snoops> manual verses an sdk scheuri?
[10:53] <cymcy> hello #ubuntu
[10:53] <Thirsteh> why hallo dar
[10:53] <mdke> scheuri: those should all have been moved to help.ubuntu.com
[10:53] <scheuri> snoops: okay...its an sdk...:)...I wont advertise it here anymore...
[10:55] <cymcy> I have xchat2 under gnome (not xchat-gnome). I set it start with my session. the icon appears in systray and the xchat window also. how do I iconify automtaically the window (just the systray) ?
[10:57] <Toma-> !bluetooth
[10:57] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[10:58] <Toma-> Umm.... anyone notice the bluetooth page is dead?
[10:59] <Madpilot> Toma-, give it a second, it should redirect to the new wiki
[10:59] <Madpilot> if not, there's something wrong with your browser, and it should have sent you on to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:00] <Toma-> ahhh thanks
[11:00] <Madpilot> !no, bluetooth is <reply>For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[11:01] <Madpilot> there, now the bot has the new URL too :)
[11:01] <Toma-> Ahhhhh fantastic. Should add a note to the wiki page about it then?
[11:01] <Toma-> thats better :D
[11:02] <Toma-> Madpilot: says i need a Pin... controlled by bluez or something?
[11:02] <Madpilot> Toma-, no idea - I've never owned a Bluetooth gadget
[11:02] <Toma-> oh :)
[11:04] <Toma-> Yay!
[11:06] <crnamala> cao
[11:08] <VladimirZR> cao ima li zivih ovde
[11:11] <VladimirZR> kann hier jemand deutsch ?
[11:11] <VladimirZR> brauche hilfe
[11:12] <scheuri> VladimirZR: die deutsche hilfe gibt es im deutschen channel
[11:13] <scheuri> VladimirZR: #ubuntu-de
[11:13] <VladimirZR> ok danke
[11:13] <scheuri> VladimirZR: netherlands: #ubuntu-nl (or so)
[11:14] <VladimirZR> gibts auch #ubuntu-scg
[11:15] <scheuri> scg?
[11:15] <VladimirZR> serbien & montenegro
[11:15] <scheuri> uh, sorry...:)
[11:16] <gast> hallo
[11:17] <gast> hallo
[11:18] <rixxon> hello, don't wait for a reply, just state your question :)
[11:18] <scheuri> gast: hier wird englisch gesprochen, solltest du deutschen support wollen, bitte wechsle zu #ubuntu-de
[11:18] <scheuri> okay...
[11:19] <rixxon> :)
[11:21] <Yonda> Hi guys - I've got a dual screen setup here....but at the moment the screens are just a clone of each other. I would like the second screen to be a seperate monitor...How can I achieve this?
[11:22] <MatthewV> Yonda, you need to add the xinerama module to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:23] <Timir> Hey
[11:23] <Timir> Anyone happen to know how to do a say...Cheap quick effective little network setup between a Mac running Tiger and Linux?
[11:24] <Yonda> MatthewV, Thanks for that, ill see if that works ;D
[11:24] <MatthewV> k Yonda no probs
[11:26] <NATnatic> hey all, im trying to get TwinView up and running on my nVidia card... all the walkthroughs ive seen mention using Option "NvAGP" "2" in my xorg.conf, since my nVidia card is a PCI-Express card, do i need to specify a different module, or will this work fine?
[11:26] <Timir> They're already hooked up via router....
[11:29] <Squibby> hey fellas, sorry for such a n00bish question...
[11:29] <jotham> squibby is a hacker
[11:29] <Yonda> MatthewV, Sorry - I'm a tad confused (bit of a newbie here)...I found this in the wiki...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo .... Can I just change my xorg.conf file to that, or do i have to install something via apt-get as well?
[11:29] <jotham> he took down lilo
[11:29] <jotham> him and weev
[11:29] <jotham> watch out
[11:29] <Squibby> but I've installed ubuntu under the parallels virtualization manager for os x...
[11:30] <MatthewV> Yonda, make sure libxinerama is installed, but it should be by default
[11:30] <Squibby> and it has selected only 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480 screen resolutions as options
[11:30] <Squibby> I want to edit a .conf to add 1280x800 to the selections.
[11:30] <Yonda> MatthewV, yep it is, so I just change my xorg.conf file?
[11:31] <MatthewV> Yonda, if you already have dual screens running, make sure you use the server options to make the screens in the right physical location, and then add the modules xinerama section
[11:31] <Squibby> I tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing all the entries I found at 800x600 to 1280x800, but that hasn't done the trick, even after a restart
[11:31] <Squibby> what's the best way to go about accomplishing this?
[11:31] <yaz> is this the ubuntu linux distro chat room?
[11:31] <jrib> yaz: yes, welcome
[11:32] <yaz> im like 100% new to ubuntu and to linux
[11:32] <jrib> yaz: but this is for support and general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:32] <yaz> i figured i would use ubuntu cuz my friend told me it was user friendly
[11:32] <yaz> yeah so can any1 help me with it? like y cant i open .mp3's?
[11:32] <Squibby> jotham has pointed out to me that I suck at asking for help
[11:32] <cydrive> can anyone tell me where i can get a copy of windows xp for my vmware player or tell me how to make one off of a windows xp machine i have please
[11:32] <Squibby> so, let me put it another way
[11:32] <snoops> it's user friendly if you don't mind tinkering with a few things :)
[11:32] <jrib> !mp3
[11:32] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <Squibby> "how do I make 1280x800" a screen resolution choice under the GUI in ubuntu?"
[11:33] <jrib> yaz: visit the sites, ubotu just said, it should tell you what you need to do for mp3's
[11:33] <nnk> Could someone tell me what's wrong with this:
[11:33] <nnk> for i in ieee80211 ipw2100; do \
[11:33] <nnk> > find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname ${i}*; done
[11:34] <cwillu> Squibby: after you restarted x, did that resolution show up as a display mode in the preferences?
[11:34] <void^> Squibby: adding it to xorg.conf was correct, but you also need to use a driver and monitor settings that allow for it
[11:34] <cydrive> can someone help me create or show me where to download windows xp for vmware player?
[11:34] <Squibby> cwillu: no
[11:34] <Squibby> void^: ah, that makes sense
[11:34] <nnk> cydrive: I think you'll need to find a licensed cd
[11:34] <Twinxor> dumb wget question:
[11:34] <Squibby> void^: well, parallels claims to virtualize a VESA 3.0 adapter
[11:34] <Twinxor> how can I use wget to save all the files linked to by this page: http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/project/sipbsrc/rt/lndir/
[11:34] <cydrive> damn i have computers with legal copies of xp but none of them came with cds
[11:35] <void^> Squibby: i'm not really sure you can go above 1024 with vesa :/
[11:35] <Timir> <-< Anyone know how to set up like, network file sharing on a Mac?
[11:35] <Squibby> void^: blahzers
[11:35] <sexcopter8000m> just looking at my sources.list file, some of the uri's start http://au.archive.... does that mean i'm getting stuff from australia?! (I'm in germany). Are there german mirrors I can use instead?
[11:35] <Timir> er
[11:35] <jotham> Squibby: check undermac
[11:35] <Timir> On Linux, not on Mac >_<
[11:35] <jrib> sexcopter8000m: just replace au with de
[11:35] <Squibby> void^: heh, interestingly FC-5 installed an adapter with support for 1280x800, but it doesn't recognize the sound properly :/
[11:35] <sexcopter8000m> jrib, ok, thanks
[11:35] <snoops> cydrive I'm almost positive that legally, if you have the cd key, you are more than free to download a copy of the cd..you could also call ms and get them to send a cd to you, once you tell them your cd key
[11:36] <Timir> ^^; So anyone know how to set up file sharing on Linux?
[11:36] <Squibby> running linux distros under a VM seems to generate a unique problem for every distro. ;)
[11:36] <jrib> sexcopter8000m: you can use any official two letter country code afaik
[11:36] <Twinxor> any wget gurus?
[11:36] <Squibby> kriptik: ahhh thank you.
[11:37] <Twinxor> snoops, you're never in the clear to warez their software
[11:37] <cydrive> snoops thanks worse comes to worse ill get someone to make a copy of the disk for me
[11:37] <Twinxor> calling MS is the way to go
[11:37] <snoops> Twinxor, well, he legally has the cd key.. that's what he paid for.. the license to use and the cd key is the proof of that license
[11:37] <Twinxor> the license doesn't allow him to download copies of the software under any circumstances
[11:37] <jrib> Twinxor: use --recursive and --level=1 maybe
[11:38] <Twinxor> yeah, it's doing this weird thing where it just grabs www.mit.edu - I guess it's following the first link and not getting the binaries?
[11:38] <Twinxor> well, not binaries, but the non-HTML files it's not getting
[11:38] <snoops> is that in some eula Twinxor?
[11:38] <Toma-> ANyone using bluetooth with dapper?
[11:39] <Timir> Erk
[11:39] <Timir> Okay
[11:39] <Timir> SSH works
[11:39] <Timir> Here's a minor different question, SSHing, and using Get I think it is, is there a way to get an entire folder?
[11:39] <Twinxor> snoops, yeah
[11:39] <Squibby> void^: do you happen to know the name of the video device in xorg that would signify it is a laptop screen?
[11:40] <Squibby> void^: I would try to change the adapter type but I'm at a loss as to the list of devices Xorg accepts.
[11:40] <Twinxor> it's not unusual - no EULA would give you the option to procure the software for yourself
[11:40] <Twinxor> it's basically illegal to do that with any commercial software
[11:40] <Timir> Erk...Don't have Get either...
[11:41] <Timir> What's the command to download a file from in SSH?  Many commercial applications for xp allow just that.
[11:43] <ruxpin^> wildekek: no, from the command line
[11:44] <Twinxor> yeah, but they allow you to request another from the vendor
[11:44] <Twinxor> not download it from P2P or whatever
[11:45] <Twinxor> looks like it's 'wget -e robots=off'
[11:45] <yacek19> how to autoload modules at ubuntu 6.06 startup?
[11:45] <SVisor> Timir: SSH is not a FTP app. SSH stands for Secure SHell. Check out SFTP
[11:45] <orbin> anyone heard of the problem of garbled display when logging out (white lines, "static", shifting text)?  forum search didn't give much, and i did not have this problem w/ previous versions of ubuntu.  i have an ati xpress 200m.  tested w/ vesa, ati and fglrx
[11:45] <jrib> Twinxor: http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/faq.html#3.0 that did it for me
[11:45] <Timir> SVisor, =/ That's going to be significantly harder to set up I'm wagering
[11:45] <Twinxor> yeah, I found it jrib
[11:45] <Twinxor> thanks
[11:46] <Ng> Timir: you can use scp or sftp to get files over an ssh connection, both should be available on any box with openssh installed
[11:46] <jrib> Twinxor: oh, oops just saw that :)
[11:46] <yacek19> how to autoload modules at ubuntu 6.06 startup?
[11:46] <Ng> yacek19: put them in /etc/modules
[11:47] <sexcopter8000m> when i run the update manager, i can get the updates ok, and can read the descriptions for the packages, but never get any of the "changes", why could this be?
[11:47] <yacek19> nice
[11:47] <Ng> sexcopter8000m: there seem to have been some issues lately with the changelog server
[11:47] <Timir> I have gFTP on my flavor of linux
[11:47] <Timir> would that work?
[11:47] <Timir> it has a SSH2 option
[11:47] <Ng> Timir: I believe gftp can talk to sftp servers, yes
[11:47] <sexcopter8000m> Ng, ok, so it's probably not my end then?
[11:48] <Yonda> I've screwed up my xorg.conf file, and now x won't load...I made a backup copy of the xorg.conf file on the desktop....how can I replace the one on the desktop with the one in /etc/X11/ ?
[11:48] <SVisor> Timir: sftp is on the client side much like ssh, just use. If you get ssh running on server side sftp will work too.
[11:48] <Ng> sexcopter8000m: indeed
[11:48] <Ng> Yonda: sudo cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[11:48] <Ng> Yonda: (in a terminal)
[11:48] <Yonda> Ng, thanks
[11:48] <Timir> is FTPS the same as SFTP?
[11:48] <Ng> Timir: no
[11:48] <jotham> no
[11:49] <jotham> what the shit am i doing in here
[11:49] <Ng> Timir: that's FTP over SSL
[11:49] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[11:50] <Squibby> jotham, I'm doing a pretty good job of breaking the ubuntu display configuration, but nothing more. :/
[11:50] <Squibby> I found the text mode editor, but I don't see any options to try and tell it to use a laptop display
[11:50] <Squibby> latest thing I"m trying is vesa in 1280x800 mode
[11:50] <GUARDiAN|nb> i have a "problem" with my network-interfaces: i recently took the ipw2100 out of my notebook and replaced it with a ipw2200... now the wlan-interface has become eth2 instead of eth1
[11:50] <Squibby> ahah!
[11:50] <Squibby> that did it!
[11:50] <Squibby> woohoo
[11:50] <GUARDiAN|nb> is there any way to change this?
[11:51] <Squibby> jotham++
[11:51] <Yonda> Ng, I actually saved it in the same folder /etc/X11 - as xorg.conf_old ... How can I rename xorg.conf_old to xorg.conf and replace the current xorg.conf ?
[11:51] <GUARDiAN|nb> it's definitely not the "random interface"-problem, since it stays at eth2 and doesn't switch from 1 to 2 and vice verse
[11:52] <SVisor> Yonda: cp ~/Desktop/xorg.conf_old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:52] <Squibby> only thing is, ubuntu freaks out when you try to change the resolution in the GUI running it under parallels. :/
[11:52] <Squibby> it logs out of GNOME and has you log back in
[11:52] <Squibby> and doesn't end up changing the resolution.
[11:52] <Ng> Yonda: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:52] <Squibby> but at least it starts up in 1280x800 now.
[11:53] <Ng> Yonda: note that mv will literally put the conf_old over the conf one, use cp if you still want to keep the conf_old one around as a backup
[11:53] <Timir> Wooo, KBear worked
[11:53] <Yonda> Ng, ok thanks again!
[11:54] <Timir> Whoooo, this'll take a while, 1.5-8MB/sec, 4.9GB to transfer
[11:54] <snoops> ouch.. 100mbit network eh?
[11:55] <Twinxor> hey, what's the command to look up where exactly something in your $PATH is on the system?
[11:55] <Twinxor> I know I've seen it..
[11:55] <GUARDiAN|nb> which
[11:55] <GUARDiAN|nb> ?
[11:55] <Timir> snoops, Dunno, the comp Sending it is on WiFi
[11:56] <Timir> which I may change in a moment
[11:56] <Twinxor> yeah, that sounds right
[11:56] <snoops> oh gosh.. so between 11 and 54mbit Timir
[11:56] <YondaII> Ng, Thanks .... back to square one :)
[11:56] <Timir> snoops, Probably, unless Airport Extreme is any different
[11:57] <Timir> 1.8MB/s isn't bad
[11:57] <Timir> I don't need it say, Now now, or I'd be knit-picking out the files
[11:57] <YondaII> There isnt any type of graphical configuring program for dual screens is there :|
[11:58] <Timir> Hosting NWN, and I think I don't have the files
[11:58] <Timir> I just need them before, say, 2, 3 PM
[11:58] <snoops> Timir my internet connection isn't even twice as slow :/..I reckon that's pretty shocking speeds to be honest
[11:59] <wildekek> YondaII: : depends on your video card, for my nvidia there is
[11:59] <YondaII> wildekek, not for a Radeon 9600XT im guessing...?
[11:59] <Timir> snoops, I'm on cable, using ethernet from the router I've seen spurs of 1,000kb/s down, and a constant of 800kb/s
[12:00] <wildekek> YondaII: : let me search the packages for you
[12:00] <YondaII> wildekek, thanks
[12:00] <Timir> snoops, So if I actually probably am not running anything at all, and the server has a big enough pipe, I can probably get 1MB/s off my internet
[12:01] <snoops> yep.. same here Timir..
[12:01] <Timir> My upload speed is 50kb/s though, which rather pisses me off
[12:03] <wildekek> YondaII: : package fglrx-control "The control panel shows detailed information on your display adapter and allows you to set dual screen options, adjust gamma correction and set TV out options."
[12:03] <crashzor> i got 1 more question is there a file artsd ( clients ) write to or a other way of running artsd under my normal system and the client under dchroot -d
[12:03] <YondaII> wildekek, thanks a bunch
[12:06] <Thug-N-Me> need help
[12:06] <Thug-N-Me> how will i split one movies which is already split in 2 part both 2.2 gb i would like to make it xvid or divx
[12:06] <YondaII> wildekek, restarting x after using the config program (seemed promising)...so hopefully ill be back to report success in a minute
[12:07] <nnk> Alright, I'm trying to replace ipw2100, and there's a script I need to run, but the script can't find autoconf.h....anyone know where I can get that?
[12:07] <yamain> hello
[12:08] <snoops> Thug-N-Me are these vobs or what format?
[12:08] <Squibby> thanks for your help guys.
[12:08] <yamain> UHHhhhhh
[12:08] <yamain> who
[12:09] <yamain> spanish
[12:09] <ubuntu> tty
[12:09] <yamain> please
[12:09] <jrib> !es
[12:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:09] <Thug-N-Me> snoops vobs yeah
[12:11] <k31th> Anyon of you gues use ispconfig
[12:12] <snoops> you might need to do it in two parts Thug-N-Me.. join them, then use an encoder.. such as MEncoder or transcode
[12:12] <davro> im running dapper on sony vaio pcgz1rmp, every now and then everything locks up only while running in X can't even, ctrl + alt + backspace, have to give it a hard reboot, problem is i cannot tell weather its software | hardware ? any ideas
[12:12] <mp3guy> I've got alot of my files on a fat32 partition, but I can't change any of their permissions, whether I'm root or not, what can I do?
[12:12] <davro> X logs show nothing.
[12:12] <Thug-N-Me> snoops this is the file movie1.DTS.iNT.NTSC.DVDR
[12:12] <jrib> mp3guy: fat32 doesn't use unix-style permissions
[12:13] <mp3guy> jrib, can I convert the partition to ext2/3 without destroying all the data?
[12:13] <VoX> no
[12:13] <mp3guy> crap
[12:13] <snoops> might want to look at ffmpeg actually Thug-N-Me
[12:13] <VoX> you would have to copy all the data elsewhere and format the drive
[12:14] <mp3guy> can you merge ext2 partitions?
[12:14] <VoX> mp3guy: in what sense
[12:14] <mp3guy> if I have two ext2 partitions, can I merge them together into one?
[12:14] <VoX> mp3guy: er no
[12:15] <mp3guy> even with gparted? Because I was able to take data off one without destroying it VoX
[12:15] <snoops> Thug-N-Me http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=611871#post611871 <- looks helpful.. for MEncoder
[12:15] <snoops> you concatenate the files in a pipe to mencoder..
[12:16] <Thug-N-Me> snoops  thanks a lot
[12:16] <YondaII> wildekek, It works :)
[12:16] <VoX> mp3guy: if you want to try it, do it at your own risk. as it involves modifying the partition table, it wont take much for it all to go to hell in a handbasket.
[12:17] <crashzor> i got 1 more question is there a file artsd ( clients ) write to or a other way of running artsd under my normal system and the client under dchroot -d ?
[12:17] <jimcooncat> hi, adding a ~/bin directory doesn't include it in my $PATH? It looks like it would according to .bash_profile.
[12:17] <wildekek> YondaII: : good! no prob etc :-)
[12:17] <mp3guy> Vox, heres my plan, the fat32 partition is 60gb, and I have about 29gb of data, so I'm planning to chop 30gb off the end of the drive, then move all the data to a new 30gb ext2 partition, format the rest ext2, and then put it all back together
[12:18] <jrib> jimcooncat: ~/.bash_profile probably does not get sourced when you log into gnome.  It only gets sourced for login shells.  You can use ~/.gnomerc
[12:18] <VoX> mp3guy: ugh.. thats nasty. good luck
[12:18] <jimcooncat> thanks, jrib !
[12:19] <jimcooncat> oops, I'm using xfce, would that still be the same?
[12:19] <jimcooncat> maybe a follow-up script for gdm?
[12:19] <ubuntu> seen traveller
[12:20] <jrib> jimcooncat: probably not, I don't know what file to use then would be
[12:21] <jimcooncat> I'll poke around gdm, thanks
[12:21] <jrib> jimcooncat: you could try ~/.xfcerc but you just need it to get sourced somewhere.  You could put it in ~/.bashrc, then it will get added to your path everytime you start a shell
[12:22] <jimcooncat> can you please explain "sourced"?
[12:22] <snoops> mp3guy, any reason why you're not using ext3?
[12:22] <jrib> jimcooncat: just means something reads it and does what it says
[12:22] <mp3guy> I originally used the drive with winxp, and when I switched to ubuntu all my data was on it and I couldn't change it to ext3
[12:23] <jimcooncat> jrib, I think I understand, to make sure it gets executed.
[12:23] <jrib> jimcooncat: exactly
[12:23] <snoops> okay, it's just you said a new 30gb ext2 partition..
[12:24] <jimcooncat> yep, the rc files for xfce are .ini type, not bash script entries
[12:25] <muksie> I have 64bit Dapper, and for compiling wine I need to have the libicu packages. I have install libicu34 and libicu34-dev from apt, but then I get an compilation error, so I think I have to install the 32bit libicu packages. But I cannot find them in the apt repositories. Now I have downloaded 32bit libicu packages for amd64 from an Suse site (RPM's) and with alien converted them to .deb Is is save to install this packages or could it be
[12:25] <muksie> a problem to install Suse packages on Ubuntu?
[12:25] <Polkadot> I have a question, which i bet very few of you will be able to answer.
[12:25] <jimcooncat> jrib, I got it, there's postlogin scripts available in gdm, thanks
[12:25] <jrib> jimcooncat: cool np
[12:26] <Polkadot> How on earth can I use my MIDI keyboard (Roland EXR 3s) as a midi device in Rosegarden and in ubuntu in general
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[12:26] <Polkadot> I do it in Windows. All my midi's play through my midi keyboard.
[12:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i have nos sound in totem
[12:26] <Polkadot> I just don't know how to do it in Linux
[12:27] <crashzor> is there same wone here how is running chroot + artsd whitout having to run artsdsp inside of chroot ?
[12:27] <Polkadot> So, does anyone know?
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me, it writes at the first /usr/bin/esd is not found , i do a whereis esd, and sudo ln -s /usr/include/esd.h /usr/bin/esd
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> agter it not write esd not found, but still no sound
[12:27] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me
[12:29] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: do you have the 'esound' package installed?
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> no...
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm isntalling
[12:29] <MetaMorfoziS> i find about "esd" but not esound... baaah:(
[12:29] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: you may want to delete that symlink you made
[12:30] <jrib> (before installing)
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> yes i do that
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> hm it not works
[12:30] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[12:30] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[12:31] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: can you elaborate and what is not working? are you getting errors on the install?
[12:31] <jrib> s/and/on
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any way to set the audio settigns in totem?
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> esound installed
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> totem-xine isntalled
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> totem starts without errors
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> and palys video with no sound
[12:31] <jrib> !enter
[12:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:31] <MetaMorfoziS> sry
[12:31] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: ok, press alt+f2 and run 'esd &'
[12:32] <flodine> can someone tell me does dapper see 160 gb drive?
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> aaah
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> it plays a crazy soudn
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> my sound system's volume at 500%:D
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> aargh
[12:32] <snoops> yes, no problem flodine
[12:32] <MetaMorfoziS> but its not work
[12:33] <flodine> snoops i got 2 and it see only 143gb
[12:34] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: can you run this command: totem /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:34] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[12:34] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: and do you hear sound?
[12:34] <MetaMorfoziS> totem starts, but no sound...:(
[12:35] <snoops> umm let's see.. 160,000,000,000bytes / 1024/1024/1024 = 149.01GB
[12:35] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: did you ever have sound?
[12:35] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[12:35] <snoops> sure the other 6GB isn't used space flodine?
[12:35] <MetaMorfoziS> all other player works, but my fav is totem...
[12:35] <MetaMorfoziS> mplayer not have playist... all other are not simpatic for me
[12:36] <snoops> mplayer has a playlist
[12:36] <MetaMorfoziS> how?
[12:36] <snoops> right click
[12:36] <MetaMorfoziS> oh thats yes... but it not easy to use... i like in totem it's opened by default on the right side
[12:36] <flodine> snoops what do you mean
[12:36] <MetaMorfoziS> and i can drag and drop and it's useful....
[12:37] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: try rebooting, maybe something else is using the card, but now that esd starts up when you login it may work
[12:37] <snoops> there's probably a skin for mplayer
[12:37] <MetaMorfoziS> jrib: okay, thankyou i'm back soon
[12:37] <Polkadot> Can anyone please help me? I need to know how to set my keyboard as the default midi playback device? I have a Roland ERS- 3s.
[12:38] <albacker> what's the application editor in ubuntu called [the graphic one not apt-get]  !?
[12:38] <Nameeater> synaptic
[12:39] <Polkadot> Everyone is ignoring me. :'(
[12:39] <snoops> flodine, well.. 160GB to a hdd manufacturer is 160billion bytes.. but computers use base 2.. so you need to divide 160billion bytes by 1024 then by 1024 again then by 1024 again.. to get your GiB total (which just so happens to be 149).. it really should display as GiB, but it doesn't for reasons I don't understand. So they display it as GB.
[12:39] <albacker> Nameeater, thnx
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> snoops: What's wrong with GB?
[12:40] <cydrive> i have an idea for vmware if anyone thins this will work before i waste my time what if download windows vista beta and then load the iso into a virtual drive would i be able to use it with vmware?
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> jrib: :( it's still no sound:(
[12:41] <snoops> Giga is 1billion..(10^9) Gibi is 2^30
[12:41] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: but mplayer has sound still?
[12:41] <albacker> guys have a look at this : http://rafb.net/paste/results/gAq7e644.html    can you help me ?
[12:41] <MetaMorfoziS> yep
[12:42] <ajax4> cydrive: I don't know if vmware supports images of vista. But it supports NT I'd say it should work.
[12:42] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: and you are testing with the startup.wav file?
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[12:42] <ajax4> albacker: Why not install vmware player from the repositories?
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[12:43] <albacker> ajax4, because its an old version.
[12:43] <snoops> 1GiB = 1,073,741,824bytes, where as 1GB = 1,000,000,000bytes tonyyarusso
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> snoops: Oh really?  Huh.  'k.
[12:43] <patrick_king> has anyone tried to install Compiz on dapper
[12:43] <ajax4> albacker: Okay, then do this: sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[12:43] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: can you tell me the output of this command: apt-cache policy esound | grep -i Installed && md5sum /usr/bin/esd
[12:43] <albacker> ajax4, i did it ! have a look at the URL i pasted.
[12:44] <ajax4> patrick_king: I've used it with XGL. Its pretty neat though a little buggy on my machine.
[12:44] <MetaMorfoziS> it needs sudo?
[12:44] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: no
[12:44] <patrick_king> ajax4: was it easy to install
[12:44] <MetaMorfoziS> ok, it's  output is empty
[12:44] <snoops> yeah, but computers divide by 1024 to get the GB total, when they should use the GiB if they divide by 1024.. anyway.. it's fairly new standard.. only been in use the last 5 years or so, at least that's when I learnt about it tonyyarusso
[12:44] <rioch> What cd iso do I download to install ubuntu? I want it on my system permanantly, which is what the server version does, but the desktop version has an "option" to do this as well.
[12:45] <ajax4> albacker, you did it wrong. Its looking for the file in /usr/bin not the current dir. Try it exactly as I suggested and I bet you will have more luck.
[12:45] <MetaMorfoziS> ! my system is hungarian
[12:45] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: oh, what does 'apt-cache policy esound' say is the version?
[12:45] <albacker> ajax4, nope. same error !
[12:45] <MetaMorfoziS> not installed -> Teleptve
[12:45] <patrick_king> !Compiz
[12:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:45] <ajax4> patrick_king: Not too bad. But its still pretty unstable for me.
[12:45] <MetaMorfoziS> so i have installed: 0.2.36-3ubuntu3
[12:45] <albacker> ajax4, if you see well, it looks for the uninstaller in /usr/bin not for that fle. .  !
[12:46] <snoops> rioch, all versions desktop, server and alternate allow for permanent installation.. desktop has a live cd with a graphical installer, alternate is the desktop version without the graphical installer and live cd. Server is without a gui, and uses a text based installer
[12:46] <ajax4> albacker: Pastebin your output again so I can look at it.
[12:46] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: how about: md5sum /usr/bin/esd
[12:46] <rioch> snoops: great, i think desktop will be better for me.
[12:46] <ajax4> rioch: Get the desktop version and just double click the install icon on the desktop.
[12:46] <MetaMorfoziS> e99f4c9755ca2197b4dd0840298f455a  /usr/bin/esd
[12:47] <rioch> ok, thanks.
[12:47] <albacker> ajax4, http://rafb.net/paste/results/yRbH0R63.html
[12:47] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: and 'ps -e | grep esd' shows esd is running?
[12:48] <dj_smilee> has anyone downloaded the 6.06-server image from the uk mirror service?
[12:48] <MetaMorfoziS> it's output is empty
[12:49] <ajax4> albacker: is there a vmware folder in /etc ?
[12:49] <albacker> ajax4, yes.
[12:49] <ajax4> albacker: do this: sudo mv /etc/vmware /etc/vmware-old
[12:50] <ajax4> albacker: then try the install process
[12:51] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: hrmm, ok in a terminal, run 'esd &'.  Is there any output?  Does totem work afterwards?
[12:51] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: the strange thing is, totem used to work for me without esd, when I just used alsa
[12:51] <MetaMorfoziS> after esd & ps said it's running
[12:52] <albacker> ajax4, thanks it worked !
[12:52] <Hexidigital> mc__:: good luck :)
[12:52] <albacker> ajax4, can i remove the vmware-old in etc now ? if there's not problem ?@
[12:52] <mc__> Hexidigital, thanks
[12:53] <ajax4> albacker: Yeah, I'm sure you can just remove the old one.
[12:53] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: totem still has no sound though?
[12:53] <MetaMorfoziS> no...
[12:54] <higen> hmm.. any developementplans of implementing initNG in next release of ubuntu?
[12:55] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: the startup sound is really low, are you sure the volume isn't down?
[12:56] <MetaMorfoziS> yees
[12:57] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: ok, sorry I don't know then.  If you heard that weird beep when you ran esd it makes me think esd is working but i am not sure why totem doesn't give you any sound
[12:58] <ajax4> Anyone know what /proc/pci is supposed to be for?
[12:58] <SaTaN`> :)
[12:58] <SaTaN`> am.. what is the command, ti insall compilers?
[12:58] <SaTaN`> to*
[12:58] <jrib> !b-e
[12:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[12:59] <jrib> SaTaN`: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[12:59] <grahamperrin> Please, what are the PowerPC system requirements for 6.06? Will it work on early G3 iMacs?
[12:59] <SaTaN`> thnx :)
[12:59] <christotoday> guys, I'm not a C expert, but trying to compile a program I get a  lot of errors including "stdio.h: No such file or directory" - same for stdlib.h, string.h, unistd.h.  Anyone have any idea where these headers should be? I thought they were 'just there' on any *nix system and that compiling a bit of C would 'just work'
[12:59] <SaTaN`> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:59] <SaTaN`>    <- mhm..
[12:59] <Ng> ajax4: do you mean /proc/bus/pci?
[01:00] <jrib> SaTaN`: do you have synaptic open?
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> and in .gnome2/totem_config?
[01:00] <SaTaN`> oh.. f*** yes... sorry :)
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> no way to enable or disable something?
[01:00] <ajax4> Ng: Well, a program I'm trying to run said it couldn't find /proc/pci...I don't really know what it does but the program stopped.
[01:00] <CrashProne> How much effort would one have to go through to watch encrypted (or whatever they are) movie files on Linux?
[01:01] <CrashProne> ie. the .wmv's that are all "Heck no I won't run."
[01:01] <Ng> ajax4: what's the program? because afaik there is no such /proc/ file
[01:02] <ajax4> Ng: Daphne, its an emulator that's not in the repositories.
[01:02] <BSoDirl> should synaptic "forget" my universe/multiverse reps after I changed my kernel-mages to k7?
[01:02] <BSoDirl> is that normal?
[01:02] <erUSUL> BSoDirl: no
[01:02] <kbrooks> ajax4: exact name?
[01:03] <BSoDirl> :|
[01:03] <jrib> MetaMorfoziS: I don't know, you could see if gxine works for you as a temporary alternative.  it has a playlist like you said you wanted
[01:03] <Ng> ajax4: I'd say that sounds like a problem with that progrma then
[01:03] <ajax4> kbrooks: daphne (from daphne-emu.com)
[01:03] <snoops> don't see why it should change your etc/apt/sources.list BSoDirl.. sure something else didn't replace it?
[01:03] <erUSUL> BSoDirl: just enable them again with synaptic or editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <ajax4> Ng: Yeah, its a binary file...I compiled it and got the same error. Trying to figure out the problem.
[01:04] <BSoDirl> I installed linux-headers(kernel ver)-k7, linux-image(kernel)k7, and the linux-restricted modules-k7, rebooted into the k7 image and synaptic is broke as hell + i had to recompile my modem driver.
[01:04] <erUSUL> top
[01:04] <BSoDirl> yeah ok, I'm downloading the 3m or so on dialup as we speak.
[01:04] <BSoDirl> ubuntu isnt very dialup-friendly is it? :S
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> hm only mplayer have sound
[01:05] <erUSUL> BSoDirl: not much :( still rememmber my "dial-up days".
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> gxine kaffeineand other no...
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> hm
[01:05] <kbrooks> BSoDirl: the security updates aren't ;)
[01:05] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[01:05] <snoops> the internet isn't very dialup-friendly these days ;)
[01:06] <MetaMorfoziS> mplayer uses alsa
[01:06] <Aap> hi guys: i have 4 boxes + woofer, but i can't make it work under Ubuntu
[01:06] <Aap> any help someone?
[01:06] <erUSUL> !sound
[01:06] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:07] <BSoDirl> i have made it a point not to add the security updates reps..
[01:07] <BSoDirl> when I get a steady gig, I'm GETTIN' satellite :P
[01:07] <Aap> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'+
[01:07] <ajax4> BSoDirl: Why no security updates?
[01:08] <GUARDiAN|nb> hm... i found out, that seemingly the e100-module tries to probe on eth1 which lets my ipw2200 take eth2... how can i restrict the e100 to eth0 only?
[01:08] <BSoDirl> I like to live dangerously ^_^
[01:08] <ajax4> Hehe
[01:08] <BSoDirl> plus, the bandwidth issue doesn't help.
[01:08] <gostview> hi all
[01:08] <ajax4> gostview: hey
[01:08] <BSoDirl> hoary apparently had an issue with my old imac modem
[01:08] <BSoDirl> so when i connected to d/l the repos list
[01:08] <gostview> hi ajax4
[01:09] <BSoDirl> I was connecting at like 14.4
[01:09] <Loth77> hello everybody...
[01:09] <BSoDirl> least now I'm at 28.8 on my P3 machine w/ winmodem :)
[01:09] <BSoDirl> speaking of which, Intel536ep winmodem is very solid with breezy
[01:09] <gostview> I've just compiled Gnash, but nothing happen when browsing a flash site.
[01:09] <Frogzoo> oh noes - are all the repos down?
[01:09] <SaTaN`> BSoDirl:  i had the same problem 2 :)
[01:10] <SaTaN`> running dila-up on 14.4 Kb/s
[01:10] <BSoDirl> on an imac?
[01:10] <ajax4> Frogzoo: I just did an update a couple of minutes ago and it worked fine for me.
[01:10] <BSoDirl> god man... it was terrible.
[01:10] <snoops> gostview don't you need the firefox plugin as well?
[01:10] <Loth77> i have installed KDE on my Ubuntu,  all works well but i have no system sounds on kde... can anybody help me? :)
[01:10] <BSoDirl> took like an hour to download dopewars
[01:10] <snoops> and obviously have to restart firefox after installing that plugin
[01:10] <Frogzoo> ajax4: can't reach au.archive.ubuntu.com or archive.ubuntu.com  o.O
[01:10] <Yogiz> what happen to all xxx password sites on IRC?>
[01:10] <SaTaN`> yes :)
[01:11] <Frogzoo> ajax4: ah, my bad (work's proxy setting)
[01:11] <Loth77> satan.... yes was for me? :D
[01:11] <ajax4> Frogzoo: That'll do it :)
[01:11] <SaTaN`> no.. for BSoDirl :)
[01:11] <gostview> snoops> well I don't know, maybe yes... I'm going to watch... however there a soft link in .firefox/plugin called libgnashplugin.so
[01:11] <Loth77> ohu..!
[01:12] <BSoDirl> funny thing is, after cursing my machine for hours, I checked the how-to and it told me to get 'gcc-3.4-base' 'cpp' and 'gcc-3.4
[01:12] <snoops> gostview gnash doesn't work for me on 64bit heh.. at least not with any flash sites I go to
[01:12] <BSoDirl> then I was fine :S
[01:12] <whitehorseNtiger> 700+ people....wow
[01:12] <BSoDirl> Tried to compile that on puppy, and it was going nowhere lol.
[01:12] <frfx> jippiiiii
[01:12] <BSoDirl> ubuntu's blowin' up, sukka!
[01:12] <gostview> snoops> I've got a 64bit too, and I just hope it works... you break my hopes :)
[01:13] <BSoDirl> *claps*
[01:13] <BSoDirl> how is 64-bit anyway?
[01:13] <snoops> annoying BSoDirl.
[01:13] <BSoDirl> bad hw support in the *nix world?
[01:14] <BSoDirl> erm, cpu?
[01:14] <snoops> brilliant hardware support
[01:14] <Frogzoo> BSoDirl: 64 bits only worth the trouble for server
[01:14] <Loth77> i try to ask again.... i have installed KDE on my Ubuntu,  all works well but i have no system sounds on kde... can anybody help me? :)
[01:14] <ivalladt> can my mobo exact model name be read from somewhere under /proc?
[01:14] <snoops> "what do you mean win32 codecs don't work on 64bit?" "What do you mean wine doesn't work on 64bit?" "What do you mean there's no macromedia flash for 64bit?".. the list goes on
[01:14] <BSoDirl> aha.
[01:14] <BSoDirl> ugh.
[01:15] <BSoDirl> no wine? I'll pass for now.
[01:15] <Frogzoo> snoops: wine won't be 64 bit for forever
[01:15] <BSoDirl> I'd have to say that puppy linux + ubuntu are really good platforms for wine.
[01:15] <BSoDirl> much better than suse :P
[01:15] <snoops> Frogzoo, doesn't make me anymore happy about that either
[01:16] <Frogzoo> snoops: just be a man and face it - denial won't help :D
[01:16] <BSoDirl> is there a cedega for 64bit?
[01:16] <BSoDirl> I hear it's pretty good.
[01:16] <snoops> I'm not paying for a subscription of cedega...
[01:17] <Ng> BSoDirl: no, but the 32bit cedega should work on an amd64 machine
[01:17] <userundefine> You can build from cvs for free as far as I know
[01:17] <BSoDirl> get it via cvs
[01:17] <BSoDirl> if you have the bandwidth
[01:17] <Frogzoo> BSoDirl: is this for real? I find that hard to believe, seeing as cedega is/was a wine fork
[01:17] <BSoDirl> I believe the cvs of cedega is free
[01:17] <Ng> the cvs version isn't identical, but yeah
[01:17] <BSoDirl> hmm
[01:17] <BSoDirl> winex yeah..
[01:17] <Ng> it lacks support for copy protection at least
[01:17] <gostview> snoops> I guess it works 'cos I've compiled it perfectly!
[01:17] <dj_smilee> right. i've just burnt 3 iso's of 6.06-server and each one apparently has a corrupt kernel image?!?!
[01:17] <Frogzoo> BSoDirl: the wine guys say 64bit is really really hard, so I doubt cedega have done it
[01:17] <BSoDirl> havent tried it yet. I downloaded the front-end once.
[01:18] <Frogzoo> dj_smilee: are you burning full speed or slower?
[01:18] <userundefine> dj_smilee, check the hashes?
[01:18] <Ng> Frogzoo: as I said, the 32bit version works on amd64 machines
[01:18] <BSoDirl> and i didnt pay, i hear the "engine" is free, so you can get it all free im sure.
[01:18] <Ng> BSoDirl: as i said, the free cvs version is not identical to the pay-for version
[01:18] <dj_smilee> not checked the hashes, but i downloaded a fresh copy from a different mirror
[01:18] <BSoDirl> Frogzoo: but those 'corporate' noobs have the funding to make it work I bet.
[01:18] <BSoDirl> at transgaming lol
[01:18] <dj_smilee> each time
[01:18] <gostview> * I guess it should have work...
[01:18] <BSoDirl> Hm... that's lame Ng
[01:19] <Frogzoo> BSoDirl: so does google though ..... o.O
[01:19] <BSoDirl> I'm sure some black hat has a mirror for the pay version :)
[01:19] <Ng> BSoDirl: not really, they want to make some money and they can't distrbute all of their code for free, for legal reasons
[01:19] <BSoDirl> that seems a bit wrong though, considering wine was a GPL/LGPL project.
[01:19] <Ng> no it wasn't
[01:19] <BSoDirl> :S
[01:20] <Ng> Transgaming forked wine before it changed to GPL
[01:20] <snoops> a guy from wine was on lugradio a little while ago, seemed pretty bitter about transgaming and cedega in general - they aren't contributing to the community I think were his words
[01:20] <Frogzoo> ng BSoDirl ot, but there's extremely little love between cedega & wine these days
[01:20] <gostview> well, what pity... the only way to see a movie with flash is to wait for a flash-installer 64bit or to downgrade my OS to 32
[01:21] <dj_smilee> i'll try the iso off a disk
[01:21] <BSoDirl> Frogzoo: cedega doesn't have my love :|
[01:21] <Ng> gostview: you can install a 32bit firefox in the amd64 ubuntu, or run a 32bit chroot
[01:21] <snoops> gostview, you can try the linux32 approach
[01:21] <BSoDirl> oh btw, has anyone got 3d accel working with an S3ProSavage?
[01:22] <gostview> well, let try it then... tnx all
[01:23] <ajax4> Can someone ping irc.enterthegame.com for me? I'm having probs connecting.
[01:24] <ajax4> BSoDirl: You got return packets?
[01:24] <BSoDirl> "From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered
[01:24] <BSoDirl> "
[01:24] <BSoDirl> :S
[01:24] <Otacon22> hi boys, what command I have to do for format my disc in fat?
[01:25] <BSoDirl> looks like they're denying ICMP or something.
[01:25] <Ng> Otacon22: mkfs.vfat /dev/whatever
[01:25] <snoops> you can do it from the gui Otacon22.. preferences > disks
[01:25] <ajax4> BSoDirl: Ok thanks.
[01:25] <BSoDirl> np
[01:25] <wweasel> Hey all.  I'm having a problem. The boot up and shutdown splash screens are displayed at the wrong resolution (left half of screen cut off).  What should I do?
[01:25] <BSoDirl> :*{
[01:26] <Frogzoo> Otacon22: mkfs.vfat -F 32
[01:26] <moshe> hello
[01:26] <moshe> what command syncs with the ubuntu ntp server?  For some reason, it's not being done at startup
[01:27] <Blissex> moshe: 'try 'ntpdate', but the NTP server will sync periodically with all its peers and change the time automatically if it is not too out of whack.
[01:27] <erUSUL> moshe: sudo ntpdate hora.rediris.es
[01:28] <BSoDirl> moshe: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntulinux.org works too
[01:28] <Ng> ntp.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <moshe> beautiful
[01:28] <wweasel> Hey all.  I'm having a problem. The boot up and shutdown splash screens are displayed at the wrong resolution (left half of screen cut off).  What should I do?
[01:28] <BSoDirl> :)
[01:28] <Ng> wweasel: it could just be that your monitor needs adjusting for that screenmode
[01:28] <moshe> anyone know why when I installed acroread by hand it gave me two menu entries in xfce, when I don't have kde installed?
[01:29] <wweasel> Ng: that would make perfect sense. It used to do it right on my CRT, but since switchting to an LCD (old one) it hasn't. I should have mentioned that. What do I do?
[01:29] <Ng> wweasel: check your LCD's menus for an auto adjust option, that may work (although it may get it wrong because the background is black), otherwise use the image positioning menu items in the monitor
[01:29] <MetaMorfoziS> jrib: ok thank you
[01:29] <moshe> crap.  gotta go to work.  later all
[01:30] <Frogzoo> erUSUL: -> google ntp
[01:30] <FeestBijtje> any one knows how to instal xmms trough apt-get (i get some error that its not available
[01:30] <wweasel> Ng: But as soon as I get to login screen it displays correctly. Wouldn't that change everything?
[01:30] <CarlFK> what plugin do I need for this page http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1146995497/Canadian_Interview_Gone_Disgustingly_Wrong
[01:31] <Ng> wweasel: in theory the monitor should allow for each supported screen mode to be calibrated differently
[01:31] <snoops> Ng lcd's are fixed pixel dude.. it'll be an xorg.conf config problem
[01:31] <wweasel> CarlFK: video plugin
[01:31] <Ng> snoops: ?
[01:31] <snoops> Ng lcd's have a native resolution.. you can't go over it
[01:31] <Ng> snoops: they have the ability to size/position resolutions and he's talking about the splash screen, which has nothing to do with X
[01:31] <snoops> if you do, it just won't display the part it goes over
[01:31] <trygvebw> anyone know how to fix the "OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org" aka "no 3d acceleration with the fglrx driver" problem? I've tried all the guides on the Ubuntu forum, but i just can't get 3d-accel to work. i have a ATI radeon x300 card, and acceleration worked fine in breezy
[01:31] <wweasel> snoops: there's no way my splash screen has too high a resolution
[01:32] <erUSUL> Frogzoo: i use ntp servers from spain (hora.usc.es;hora.rediris.es) where i live. that's why i do not know the ubuntu one
[01:32] <Ng> snoops: err, no, if you try to go higher than the supported resolution they just won't display anything
[01:32] <wweasel> Ng: Is there any way to change the resolution the splash screen displays at?
[01:32] <FeestBijtje> trygvebw, try to buy an nvidia card we all speak nvidia :)O
[01:32] <FeestBijtje> :o)
[01:32] <CarlFK> wweasel: package name?
[01:32] <Ng> wweasel: probably not without recompiling it, but I don't know
[01:32] <trygvebw> FeestBijtje, not an option, sorry ;D
[01:32] <FeestBijtje> trygvebw, ive tried lol
[01:33] <FeestBijtje> trygvebw, whats the exact error?
[01:33] <trygvebw> there's no error, but i don't get any 3d acceleration, and fglrxinfo says:
[01:33] <trygvebw> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:33] <trygvebw> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:33] <Frogzoo> erUSUL: I'm not aware of ubuntu hosting their own ntp servers - they just have builtin list to local servers
[01:33] <trygvebw> not "ati" like it should
[01:33] <wweasel> CarlFK: I don't know, I used Easy Ubuntu to do it.
[01:33] <wweasel> !easyubuntu
[01:33] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:33] <wweasel> hmmm...
[01:33] <Ng> Frogzoo: ntp.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <FeestBijtje> trygvebw, did you installed the drivers probely
[01:34] <trygvebw> yes
[01:34] <Ng> Frogzoo: they host that because pool.ntp.org is (or at least was) unreliable
[01:34] <trygvebw> i'm pretty certain that i did :/
[01:34] <wweasel> CarlFK: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_use_Easy_Ubuntu
[01:34] <Ng> !ubuntuguide
[01:34] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:34] <FeestBijtje> trygvebw, or it should be the config :S
[01:34] <wweasel> Well, that section worked for me.
[01:34] <kaaaatoooo> hi, got a problem: my ubuntu is not resolving the IPs from the DNS in firefox or else. have to send a ping command first. then firefox will find the site.
[01:35] <trygvebw> xorg.conf is set to work with the fglrx driver, the fglrx driver is installed, the proprietary kernel modules package is installed
[01:35] <wweasel> Ng: Could I check what res it is tryign to display at now?
[01:35] <kaaaatoooo> is this some kind of timeout problem?
[01:35] <CarlFK> wweasel: thanks
[01:35] <snoops> wweasel the resolution is fine on your desktop right, but not on the login screens?
[01:35] <wweasel> snoops: yeah
[01:35] <snoops> wweasel did you change the resolution in the gui to the one you wanted?
[01:36] <Ng> snoops: he said earlier that when he gets to the login screen everything is fine
[01:36] <wweasel> snopes: no. it worked out of the box
[01:36] <snoops> Ng err which is it then?
[01:36] <wweasel> snoops: splash screens worked on my CRT but not on my old LCD
[01:36] <Ng> snoops: *shrug*
[01:36] <wweasel> snoops: it's the splash screens
[01:36] <Ng> snoops: I've been working under the assumption that he is talking about the bootup screen
[01:36] <Ng> which is usplash, not X
[01:37] <snoops> there's an nvidia splash screen if he's using that too..
[01:37] <wweasel> Ng: Yeah. Loading modules, etc. etc. etc. Where the bar fills up then unfills at shut down
[01:37] <BSoDirl> usplash yeah
[01:38] <snoops> can't you change that in grub menu.lst settings.. changing some vga or whatever value?
[01:38] <wweasel> snoops: we are not talking about GRUB. GRUB displays fine.
[01:38] <BSoDirl> you can I believe
[01:39] <snoops> hmm I thought grub passed the value to the kernel.. which then sent that to the loading screen you see?
[01:39] <BSoDirl> nah but you get your console resolution from menu.lst
[01:39] <Ng> grub can pass a vga parameter to the kernel which sets the resolution of the framebuffer
[01:39] <wweasel> ah, perhaps. but grub displays fine :P
[01:39] <Ng> which usplash renders onto
[01:39] <Slaryn> Hey guys could someone help me out with the wireless problem I'm (still) having?
[01:40] <BSoDirl> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro pci=noacpi quie
[01:40] <Ng> I still think the monitor settings route is worth checking though, because the splash screen should be a pretty standard VGA mode that any CRT/LCD monitor can handle
[01:40] <BSoDirl> t splash
[01:40] <BSoDirl> that's what I got :|
[01:40] <wweasel> Ng: aha! so I could get grub to tell usplash how to display...
[01:40] <CarlFK> Slaryn: not if you don't tell us abut it :)
[01:40] <Slaryn> CarlFX just seeing if anyone was available ;) Here's my deal:
[01:40] <wdamn> Hi, is there an ubuntu live cd for version 6?
[01:41] <Ng> wdamn: yes, the regular install CD is also a live CD
[01:41] <JohnnyX> can i get some help with the installation?
[01:41] <wweasel> Ng: I will. If I remember correctly however, I couldn't get a menu to open during the splash screen. (this is an old LCD, circa 1998?). How do I do the grub resolution thing? You can just link me to instructions and I'll save them for later.
[01:41] <wdamn> Ng: ok, so no distinction, like in version 5
[01:41] <Slaryn> I've got a wireless card, and I'm connection to a public (unsecured) network.  I have no control over the network.  Anyways, I can connect to only certain websites and not others... and IRC, but not AIM.  It's just really fickle
[01:42] <Slaryn> Er, connected to*
[01:42] <Otacon22> how can ! became able also other users to read and write on a disc?
[01:42] <Slaryn> CarlFX - I can go to snjcomics.com, but not google.com :P
[01:42] <ivalladt> can my mobo exact model name be read from somewhere under /proc?
[01:42] <Ng> wweasel: I'm not sure offhand, but I imagine googling for linux and vga console parameters will find some docs