[12:01] <simonhellstrom> i have nothing
[12:01] <aild> I was using the edgy version... I installed the ubuntu feisty.. now sometimes my screen goes blank and the computer freezes ..
[12:01] <amigamia> KrakensDen  thanks
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, and if you're on ubuntu now
[12:01] <aild> im trying to install the restricted drivers..
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, in the firefox search box
[12:01] <wimdows> stefg - cheers, I'll check it out
[12:01] <aild> the screen goes blank like... white lol
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, click on the google icon, and you can select a different search service
[12:01] <thelostpatrol> i need help compiling something
[12:01] <KrakensDen> amigamia, like the ubuntu package search :)
[12:01] <amigamia> KrakensDen  no i am not using ubuntu on this workstation
[12:02] <linkmaster> is there such thing as an "ubuntu shell"?
[12:02] <linkmaster> like theres unix shells..
[12:02] <stefg> wimdows: you'll probaly not want to run an apache-server just for simple straming you movies from the office to the bedroom :-)
[12:02] <Cafe_pyala> is there any tut on installing compiz on ati card in ubuntu 7.04
[12:02] <muszek> hi... I've installed (a long time ago... probably around hoary) java 1.5.0_05 from sun's site (not from repos).  What should I do to remove it?  Installing/removing java from repos doesn't touch those files.  java -version keeps returning "1.5.0_05"
[12:02] <amigamia> i am so disgusted with these problems that occured by the blackhat crackers to the server at the moment that i decided to jsut switch gears and go with another distro.
[12:02] <KrakensDen> amigamia, ah well. It's a nice feature
[12:02] <Hamm_laptop> any one familiar with Secretmaryo ?
[12:02] <usser> linkmaster: no shell is the same everywhere
[12:02] <linkmaster> what you mean?
[12:02] <usser> linkmaster: shells rather
[12:03] <linkmaster> ohh
[12:03] <amigamia> heh i am SO BITTER..
[12:03] <amigamia> anywa
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: bash,csh,ksh they are all unix/linux
[12:03] <amigamia> anyway
[12:03] <linkmaster> oh thanks usser!!!!!!
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: and theres ksh for mac even =)
[12:03] <KrakensDen> amigamia, yeah, horde2 and horde3 are in dapper, in universe
[12:03] <kb_>  amigamia: eh.. if you keep up with security patches, most distributions will be about the same, security-wise, i'd think
[12:03] <aild> brb
[12:03] <aild> reboot
[12:03] <wimdows> stefg - it wouldn't matter - I have a dedicated server box (which currently runs Windows 2003) with hardware RAID 5...but am thinking of switching to Ubuntu Server
[12:03] <usser> linkmaster: default in ubuntu is bash
[12:04] <Cafe_pyala> can any body help me installing compiz on ubuntu 7.04
[12:04] <Dave_is_sexy> can anyone tell me about continuing a multisession disc. i have tried all the gtk burners i can find, and nothing has this option visable
[12:04] <amigamia> well kb_ it was my error to have not thought about the horde updates, i admit that, but i completely forgot about metadot of which we dont even use and that was another problem that broke the camels back.
[12:04] <kb_> amigamia: metadot was the vulnerable package?
[12:04] <amigamia> yes
[12:05] <Elda> hurray, Im proud of myself.  Managed to retrieve my files I backed up onto the xbox and stick them back here
[12:05] <kb_> ah... yeah, you want to remove as many unneeded packages as possible, if security is your goal
[12:05] <amigamia> horde 2x stated the whole problem
[12:05] <pbeesley1989> I have a problem with xine, ffmpeg and w32codecs. If I remove ffmpeg, xine uses the w32codecs okay, but I want to have both installed and give priority to w32codecs since some are better quality. Can that be done?
[12:05] <amigamia> yes
[12:05] <Elda> Got a modified xbox, and Ive found aside from entertainment its good for backing stuff up between reinstalling OSes xD
[12:05] <amigamia> i learned a difficult lesson
[12:05] <nickspoon> Hey Jack.
[12:05] <nickspoon> Blah.
[12:05] <vbabiy> hey guys how can i get a user id in the bash sheel
[12:05] <vbabiy> shell
[12:06] <kb_> vbabiy: whoami
[12:06] <bobovski> hi all. is anyone willing to help me get a wired network connection going? I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on a friend's computer and the icon says there's no network connenction...what can I do now? All cables are plugged in etc
[12:06] <kb_> amigamia: yeah - i've never been cracked, to the best of my knowledge, but i've wiped out my own systems by accident before - it's not fun stuff
[12:06] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: sudo aptitude install network-manager
[12:06] <kb_> bobovski: what does ifconfig say?
[12:07] <amigamia> kd_ that is what has me so bitter, i just did that very thing.
[12:07] <stefg> vbabiy: $UID is an env-variable
[12:07] <amigamia> by accident
[12:07] <kb_> amigamia: ahh, ouch; that hurts
[12:07] <amigamia> yep
[12:07] <amigamia> less than 30 min ago.
[12:07] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you need to install package libcdio-cdda-dev
[12:07] <vbabiy> thank stefg
[12:07] <kb_> amigamia: ah, it hurts most when it's fresh
[12:08] <Cafe_pyala> is compiz stable
[12:08] <dooglus> !info libcdio-cdda-dev
[12:08] <ubotu> libcdio-cdda-dev: library to read and control digital audio CDs (development files). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.76-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:08] <Alonea> Ok, I see a lot of people talking about this vmware thing, and I don't understand what its exact purpose is. I went to website, but I still don't get it.
[12:08] <amigamia> kb_ lol you bet. now i have to drive thru rush hour and figure what i want to do and on top of it i have to come up with an explanation of what happened.
[12:08] <bobovski> Dave_is_sexy: ok, no change
[12:08] <Cosmo_> when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:08] <ivanzin> anybody to help me??
[12:08] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ta. yes i've figured that now. this 'building tag database' in aptitude seems so unnesessary
[12:08] <bobovski> kb_: ifconfig gives a >
[12:09] <kb_> Alonea: it's an emulator; it lets you run more ('virtualized') operating systems at the same time, without having them interfere with each other, on one machine
[12:09] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: oh. did it install?
[12:09] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I avoid aptitude and just use apt-get
[12:09] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you'll need libcdio-paranoia-dev too
[12:09] <kb_> bobovski: ehm, that's odd
[12:09] <Firippu> can sombody help me install fluxbox, i have it installed but gnome only starts
[12:09] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: it depends on your video drivers and what platform your run it on
[12:09] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: oh aptitude keeps track of dependencies. much better if you come to uninstall something
[12:09] <MenZa> Firippu: change your session on gdm
[12:09] <MenZa> your login screen
[12:09] <dooglus> Firippu: from the login screen, click the 'options' thing in the bottom left and select session 'fluxbox'
[12:09] <linkmaster> is it possible to dualboot windows and ubuntu?
[12:09] <kane77> Firippu, change the session at the login screen
[12:10] <crdlb> linkmaster: yes
[12:10] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I use debfoster for that
[12:10] <Cafe_pyala> Crdlb: I have ati card and ubuntu 7.04
[12:10] <bobovski> Dave_is sexy: not that I could see
[12:10] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: ati what?
[12:10] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: noted
[12:10] <linkmaster> crdlb: is there a guide somewhere on the web?
[12:10] <Elda> Hmmm, I have to create a folder to store some junk.  Where would be a good idea to do it?  Im thinking on putting it in /etc/ but I dont know where is a "good" place to put it :> Sorry if I sound like a complete idiot, hehe
[12:10] <bobovski> kb_: what are you looking for from the ifconfig reply?
[12:10] <bobovski> kb_: he had a mistype
[12:10] <h4wk0> !lvm
[12:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:10] <amigamia> is something wrong with the mirrors?
[12:10] <crdlb> !dualboot | linkmaster
[12:10] <kane77> Elda, /tmp
[12:10] <ubotu> linkmaster: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:10] <stefg> !fhs | Elda
[12:10] <ubotu> Elda: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:10] <dooglus> amigamia: I think so.  Every time I look in them I see an ugly old man looking back.
[12:10] <linkmaster> thanks!!!!!
[12:10] <kb_> bobovski: if you have any network interfaces up (a few letters followed by a number in the first column)
[12:11] <bobovski> eth0 and lo seem to be there
[12:11] <amigamia> dooglus :D
[12:11] <Cafe_pyala> Crdlb: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M
[12:11] <kb_> bobovski: ok, is it a wired network with fixed ip addresses, or dhcp?
[12:11] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you'll need package libcddb2-dev too :)
[12:11] <Firippu> i found it. thanks all!
[12:11] <Elda> kane, its not a temporary file though :>  Its a ollection of images etc that I want to store
[12:11] <vbabiy> !cifs
[12:11] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: lots of dependencies for this one!
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <stefg> Elda: /etc is probably the worst place to it... /var/junk ?
[12:11] <bobovski> kb_: it's a dsl connection behind a router. should we reset the router?
[12:11] <Elda> kk
[12:11] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: then you have to enable the restricted driver and set up Xgl, but it should be (relatively) stable, and it will be FAR more stable than beryl
[12:11] <bobovski> kb_: wired with me on the wireless on my laptop atm
[12:11] <crdlb> because it's Xgl
[12:12] <kane77> Elda, so why not in $home?
[12:12] <Cafe_pyala> so i need to install xgl or compiz
[12:12] <kb_> bobovski: hm... i wouldn't start by doing that.  i'd make sure you had an ip (either self-assigned in the right range, or from dhcp), and then try to ping the router
[12:12] <OuZo> will Ubuntu-live be broadcast or will there be videos on youtube of what happened? thanks
[12:12] <Elda> bleh beryl is evil :> I spent an hour or so isntalling it and preparing it.  The manager came up and all that but no nifty windows rotatey boxy thing
[12:12] <amigamia> umm are the mirrors down?
[12:12] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: compiz is installed with ubuntu feisty, but you need to install and set up Xgl
[12:12] <bobovski> kb_: ok, how does he check if he has an ip?
[12:12] <Cafe_pyala> ok
[12:13] <stefg> !beryl
[12:13] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:13] <Dave_is_sexy> bobovski: oh you're lucky your wirelsss works. i am on the floor cos mine doesn't!
[12:13] <Elda> ^ evil
[12:13] <kb_> bobovski: ifconfig - check for a line like inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:13] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: enable the restricted driver in the restricted manager, and follow method A of: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:13] <crdlb> then just enable desktop effects from the Xgl session
[12:13] <Hadron> something strange just happened. I booted and gnome said its settings were at odds with x. I selected the gnome ones over x. As a result my german kbd settings were. lost. Now I have set them back my tilde ~ key mus be pressed twice to get the tilde character to appear. Anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
[12:14] <kb_> Hadron: nodeadkeys
[12:14] <bobovski> kb_: there's an inet addr on lo
[12:14] <Hadron> kb_: where do I specify this in gnome?
[12:14] <kb_> bobovski: yes, <IP_ADDRESS> - ignore that, i care about eth0
[12:14] <bobovski> kb_: nothing on eth0
[12:14] <crdlb> Cafe_pyala: yeah come to #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <kb_> Hadron: no idea, i haven't used gnome in about 7 years, sorry
[12:14] <Dave_is_sexy> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/Makefile.in
[12:14] <Dave_is_sexy> why?
[12:14] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: this: "sudo apt-get install libcdio-dev libcdio-cdda-dev libcdio-paranoia-dev libcddb2-dev" installed all the deps I needed to get ./configure to run
[12:15] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: it ran now, just the error above ^^
[12:15] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I have that file: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 31504 2007-02-12 00:05 ripoff-0.8.2/src/Makefile.in
[12:15] <bobovski> kb_: I mean no inet etc listed after eth0
[12:15] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: don't you have a Makefile.in in the 'src' directory?
[12:15] <kb_> bobovski: ok - is the router set up to give out addresses via dhcp?
[12:16] <user-land> Hi, is it easy to copy Grub from the MBR of one disk to the other ?
[12:16] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: er, yes i do
[12:16] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: it's part of the standard source release, from sf.net
[12:16] <bobovski> kb_: hurm. Let me check. it was working out ok on windows. Let me see...
[12:16] <kb_> user-land: the best way to do that is probably to run grub and just install it onto the new drive
[12:16] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: did you try running config.status instead of ./configure?  (you shouldn't)
[12:16] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ok, well now i get errors about vorbis.so
[12:16] <kb_> bobovski: then it probably does
[12:17] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: from ./configure?
[12:17] <Cosmo_> when I boot up my laptop it goes into a text mode and says this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19172/ when I try to use control-d or input any other command it says bash: command not found, anyone know how to fix this?
[12:17] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: or from make?
[12:17] <Dave_is_sexy> from make
[12:17] <bobovski> kb_: the machine in question cannot access the router
[12:17] <kb_> bobovski: what do you mean?
[12:17] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: config.status not found
[12:17] <dooglus> Cosmo_: I think you should boot from the live CD and run fsck on your root partition from there.  it's telling you the partition is corrupted somehow
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I didn't try a 'make' yet.
[12:18] <Cosmo_> dooglus: thanks
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I did now, and it went through fine.  can you pastebin the error from 'make'?
[12:18] <timewriter> should i choose the 64bit version , for Intel pentium D ?
[12:18] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: (assuming ./configure has run without error already)
[12:18] <bobovski> kb_: like, if I open a browser and then type in the router address, it says it can't get to it
[12:18] <shatrat> timewriter, I wouldnt, more trouble than it's worth
[12:19] <timewriter> ok
[12:19] <crdlb> timewriter: no there's no good reason to use 64bit on a desktop
[12:19] <kneeki> Hmm, an SVN is something I add to my Software Sources correct?
[12:19] <kb_> kb_: ok, well, try running dhcpcd eth0 or dhcpclient eth0 (i'm not sure which ubuntu uses)
[12:19] <kb_> erm, bobovski even
[12:19] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471461
[12:19] <timewriter> hmm
[12:19] <timewriter> i get 404
[12:19] <kneeki> !svn
[12:19] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:19] <timewriter> when i try to download
[12:20] <user-land> what should i tell grub, kb_ ? do i need to run it as root ?
[12:20] <amigamia> ubuntu.com is having problems?
[12:20] <kb_> user-land: what you need to tell it depends on what the drive is, and yes, you should run it as root
[12:20] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: can you pastebin the output from "ls -l src/Makefile.in"
[12:20] <robzbob> hi all, how do I adjust my firewall settings?  I tried to install webmin but synaptic said it could not find it.
[12:20] <user-land> sda, kb_
[12:20] <kb_> user-land: ok, do you have any ide drives?
[12:21] <dooglus> !firestarter
[12:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:21] <robzbob> ty
[12:21] <hellcattrav> oi how do i get to teh old printer adder, where I could actually add the IP of teh pritner
[12:21] <timewriter> Internet explorer has problems i guess
[12:21] <timewriter> with mozilla everything went fine
[12:21] <user-land> yes, hdc has the correct ubuntu grub entry.
[12:21] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471468
[12:22] <kb_> user-land: ok, well, you'll need to figure out which one grub is seeing as hd0 and which as hd1
[12:22] <kb_> then, whichever one maps to sda, you should type root (hdX) on
[12:22] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: do you still have the downloaded ripoff-0.8.2.tar.gz file?  I suggest you blow away your ripoff-0.8.2 directory and start again.
[12:22] <Hadron> kb_: just FYI I had to do an xserver reconfig to update my xorg.conf
[12:22] <bobovski> kb_: neither of those commands were recognized
[12:22] <Dave_is_sexy> ok
[12:23] <kb_> bobovski: hm, does dh <tab> show anything?
[12:23] <timewriter> do i need to use the generic kernel ?
[12:23] <timewriter> brb
[12:24] <hellcattrav> hey
[12:24] <hydoskee> I have a network card that yields the following from 'lspci' "03:10.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)", and it only works about half the time
[12:24] <hellcattrav> how do i use a wireless printer?
[12:24] <hydoskee> any ideawhy?
[12:24] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[12:24] <SpaceBass> anyone using synergy for screen control?
[12:24] <atorres> whats happenen
[12:24] <jussi01> hellcattrav: is it ipp or?
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: yes, a few
[12:25] <kb_> bobovski: ok, what are they?
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: dhcdbd
[12:25] <atorres> synergy works great on ubuntu
[12:25] <dooglus> SpaceBass: I tried it a few days ago.  seemed to work OK
[12:25] <bobovski> kb_: dhclient
[12:25] <hellcattrav> jussi01:  not sure  im on my network but things have changed from 6.10 KDE, compared to now Im using 7.04 GNOME
[12:25] <kb_> bobovski: ok, the second is the one you want
[12:25] <dooglus> SpaceBass: except I was thinking it was a VNC replacement, but it isn't
[12:25] <amigamia> is it possible to use slax creator and write the ubuntu server 6x to a usb memory stick?
[12:25] <SpaceBass> dooglus, I'm having a problem running it as a client on ubuntu
[12:25] <[Meta] > Guys. :(
[12:25] <SpaceBass> dooglus, says it cannot open the display
[12:26] <[Meta] > I just installed Ubuntu for the second time ever.
[12:26] <[Meta] > And it didn't let me specify a username.
[12:26] <[Meta] > So I can't log in.
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: all I ran was "synergyc -f <IP_ADDRESS>" and it worked fine
[12:26] <wimdows> what's the name of the other OSS streaming software something like versity, diversity or something
[12:26] <bobovski> kib_: ok let me see
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, hummm
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: you'll need to have logged on to ubuntu already
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, reposititory or comple?
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: repo
[12:26] <Kezman74> when Feisty creates the MythTV user, what password does it give it?
[12:26] <Slick_> hey guys, I've just installed ubuntu and applied the patch which means feisty wont come up with an error with multiple drives.  I've reconnected my drives and want to mount them, how do you do that, so it will automatically mount them everytime you start ubuntu?
[12:26] <SpaceBass> dooglus, thats the issue! I'm not logged into the console...just via ssh
[12:26] <dooglus> SpaceBass: note the 'c' on the end of the command name
[12:26] <bobovski> kb_: it works. You rule. Will it wtill work upon restart?
[12:27] <dooglus> SpaceBass: I think it's for controlling a machine you're already logged on to, not for logging on to it
[12:27] <hellcattrav> jussi01: there was a menu in kde where i could select manufacter and model, plus where the IP was, but Im not sure with 7.04 or GNOME
[12:27] <dooglus> SpaceBass: you realise it can't share displays?  only keyboard and mouse
[12:28] <SpaceBass> dooglus, yep
[12:28] <kb_> bobovski: nope, you'll need to tell ubuntu to remember it.  i've not succesfully even booted into ubuntu yet, much less configured my network, so I don't know how to tell it that off the top of my head, though someone mentioned the possibility of installing some kind of network manager program, which would probably know how; otherwise, you or i could check the ubuntu docs
[12:28] <[Meta] > Help!
[12:28] <dooglus> multi-lcd?  how's that work on a laptop?
[12:28] <kb_> hi [Meta]
[12:28] <[Meta] > Hi kb_
[12:28] <jussi01> hellcattrav: try localhost:631 in firefox
[12:28] <dooglus> one display inside and one outside?
[12:28] <bobovski> kb_: ok. thanks a lot, I really appreciate it
[12:28] <jussi01> !netsplit
[12:28] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:29] <Slick_> how do you mount drives in ubuntu, so that they will always mount everytime you restart?
[12:29] <TaSo> when I do "ssh localhost" i get 'Permission denied (publickey,password).' ... any clue?
[12:29] <kb_> Slick: add them to /etc/fstab
[12:29] <wimdows> Slick_ you add them to you /etc/fstab
[12:29] <[Meta] > I can't log in. :( I don't have a username even though it was supposed to ask during setup.
[12:29] <dooglus> Slick_: I would edit /etc/fstab.  maybe there's a gui to do that for you, I don't know
[12:29] <Slick_> is there a guide to doing that, I'm new to ubuntu
[12:29] <dooglus> [Meta] : boot from the live cd and use 'adduser' to make a user account
[12:29] <Hamm_laptop> Slick_: i would download automatix  and install the ntfs/fat32  mounter
[12:29] <kb_> [Meta] : hm.. easiest method is probably a boot cd; boot using that, get a shell using sudo, then run useradd -m yourusername
[12:29] <kb_> [Meta] : and then run passwd yourusername
[12:30] <[Meta] > I can't run the live cd
[12:30] <[Meta] > ??
[12:30] <hydoskee> I get an "unknown hardware address type 801"
[12:30] <t9ace22> PART
[12:30] <dooglus> [Meta] : when you boot, do you get the option of 'recovery mode'?  if so, that would do it
[12:30] <Slick_> Hamm_laptop cheers i'll try that
[12:30] <[Meta] > Oh.
[12:30] <Hamm_laptop> Slick_:  google   automatix
[12:30] <[Meta] > I tried doing that last night, but I'm crappy at Ubuntu commands
[12:30] <jussi01> hellcattrav: is that working for you?
[12:30] <Kezman74> Sorry, I got kicked. When Feisty makes the mythtv user, what password does it give it. Or how can I change it?
[12:30] <[Meta] > I forget them all from around January.
[12:30] <wimdows> Slick_ - here's a tutorial on editing fstab on the UbuntuForums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[12:31] <dooglus> Kezman74: "sudo passwd mythtv"
[12:31] <kb_> [Meta] : well, now we've reminded you
[12:31] <[Meta] > I don't understand.
[12:31] <[Meta] > Last time, it just let me set up an account during installation
[12:32] <Kezman74> dooglus: I'm such an idiot, ty
[12:32] <BryanJK> ...could someone help me with a missing dependency? I have KibaDock and KibaDock plugins Deb packages, but whenever I launch either one... it says it needs the other. How do ... install them?
[12:32] <[Meta] > (And yes, I was using exactly the same CD)
[12:32] <kb_> [Meta] : yes, that's weird
[12:32] <vbabiy> hey guys can i use mount to mount more then one directory at once
[12:33] <dooglus> BryanJK: "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" ?
[12:33] <dxdemetriou_> can I force firefox to use limited amount of memory? It is very hungry
[12:33] <tarzeau> vbabiy: yes
[12:33] <[Meta] > kb_: I just thought I hadn't been paying attention to it last night.
[12:33] <jussi01> BryanJK: sudo dpkg -i deb1.deb deb2.deb
[12:33] <tarzeau> dxdemetriou_: see ulimit
[12:33] <KNY> hey, anyone have experience getting sound to work in UT2004?
[12:33] <vbabiy> tarzeau:  how
[12:33] <dooglus> dxdemetriou_: you can tell it not to cache so many pages somehow
[12:34] <BryanJK> just a sec jussi01 & dooglus
[12:34] <kb_> yay, ubuntu is -finally- booting. that was a minor marathon.
[12:34] <dooglus> dxdemetriou_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.cache.memory.capacity
[12:34] <bloodMuffin> how can i make Konsole transparent? i check transparent and its still not transparent
[12:34] <Elda> you have to set the transparency
[12:34] <imperfect-> Is there a way to use fstab to mount a drive a certain createmask for user,group or even just octal?
[12:34] <kb_> ugh, the graphical bootloader's password field is way too small
[12:35] <jussi01> !fstab | imperfect-
[12:35] <scott_> Hi all, what would you do if ldconfig -v listed a library but ldd programname said it couldn't find it?
[12:35] <[Meta] > kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
[12:35] <codecaine> hi anybody know a good respirtory for festy so i don't have the basic one?
[12:35] <ubotu> imperfect-: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:35] <tarzeau> kb_: screenshot?
[12:35] <Wriest> how come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
[12:35] <dooglus> imperfect-: you can specify the umask in /etc/stab: e.g. "UUID=10CA-7773  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[12:35] <kb_> tarzeau: i'm sure it's the normal size, it's just only about half the length it needs to be for me to be able to type my password without it scrolling and hence my not being able to see that i'm typing more characters
[12:35] <jussi01> codecaine: what are you asking?
[12:35] <BryanJK> jussi01: " dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[12:35] <joel> #ubuntuhelp
[12:36] <fiveiron> is there a way to "cat" the contents of a file into my clipboard?
[12:36] <vbabiy> tarzeau: vbabiy@vbabiy-laptop:~$ sudo mount /mnt/MP3/ /mnt/ServerD
[12:36] <vbabiy> mount: /mnt/MP3/ is not a block device
[12:36] <dooglus> imperfect-: that's not the default for creating new files though - it's how files look on a vfat fs
[12:36] <vbabiy> tarzeau: is that wrong
[12:36] <codecaine> so I can have a big choice from download
[12:36] <codecaine> s
[12:36] <tarzeau> vbabiy: yes it's wrong
[12:36] <jussi01> BryanJK: doo you really want kiba dock?
[12:36] <tarzeau> vbabiy: you need something from /dev/whatever instead of /mnt/MP3/
[12:36] <fiveiron> vbabiy: you dont mount a directory to a directory.... you mount a device to a directory
[12:36] <kb_> vbabiy: what are you trying to do?
[12:36] <Wriest> how come when I open up pages the screen goes black?
[12:37] <dooglus> Wriest: are they black pages?
[12:37] <jrib> Wriest: are you using beryl?
[12:37] <BryanJK> jussi01: yea, unless you can reccomend a nice program launcher type widget
[12:37] <jussi01> BryanJK: Id reccomend having a look at kooldock
[12:37] <vbabiy> kb i have fstab recorders for these directory i need to mount them using these recorders
[12:37] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
[12:37] <Elda> Looking at the options, the transparency for the console is fake transparency
[12:37] <dooglus> BryanJK: the avant-window-navigator is quite nice
[12:37] <Elda> The only thing it will show is your background image
[12:37] <BryanJK> jussi01: okay ill check that out, you too dooglus
[12:37] <joel> hello
[12:37] <Elda> It wont actually let you see items through your window, iirc beryl does that though
[12:38] <jussi01> BryanJK: kooldock is in the repos...
[12:38] <[Meta] > kb_ when I get the shell... do I type "useradd -m username"? Or "run useradd -m username"
[12:38] <dooglus> BryanJK: avant looks like this: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant.png
[12:38] <jussi01> !info kooldock feisty
[12:38] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[12:38] <joel> erm i compiled my kernel with a guide i found
[12:38] <kb_> [Meta] : the former
[12:38] <joel> works good but cant find the nvidia drivr now
[12:38] <[Meta] > Thanks. :)
[12:38] <jussi01> BryanJK: works in gnome too
[12:38] <sacater> yes
[12:38] <joel> any1 can help me?
[12:38] <Pelo> joel,  what is your issue ?
[12:38] <kb_> joel: if you tell us what your problem is, maybe; if not, no :)
[12:39] <[Meta] > I like your icons, dooglus
[12:39] <joel> i recompiled my kernel using a guide i found
[12:39] <Wriest> Yes
[12:39] <BryanJK> dooglus: that looks nice
[12:39] <joel> it works good and quick but cant isntall nvidia driver
[12:39] <[Meta] > Very nice.
[12:39] <BryanJK> jussi01: ...kooldock only works in KDE doesn't it?
[12:39] <Elda> cooldock creates a mac like scrolly bar?
[12:39] <ubuntu> hi, how do you recommend to partitioning a 80GB HD in order to install ubuntu??
[12:39] <[Meta] > How do you actually get the icons like that?
[12:39] <imperfect-> well
[12:39] <Wriest> jrib: yes I'm using beryl
[12:39] <dooglus> BryanJK: avant needs beryl or compiz to work
[12:39] <imperfect-> I need a creatmask ;)
[12:39] <BryanJK> I have both...
[12:39] <Pelo> !nvidia > joel
[12:39] <jrib> Wriest: it's a bug, happens when your card runs out of memory
[12:39] <imperfect-> How do I do creatmask
[12:39] <Elda> Ubuntu, I had it do the automatically so it used ALL of the 80 gigs xd
[12:40] <jrib> Wriest: maybe #ubuntu-effects knows more
[12:40] <joel> what can i do?
[12:40] <jussi01> BryanJK: no it works in gnome also
[12:40] <Elda> There should be an option to have it do it automaticall
[12:40] <Wriest> ok thanx
[12:40] <kb_> wow, dooglus - your gnome setup is actually pretty :)
[12:40] <Elda> It will set up boot/swap/ etc
[12:40] <Pelo> joel,  why did you recompile the kernel in fhe first place ?
[12:40] <[Meta] > Elda, if you're installing Windows with it, you should install Windows first
[12:40] <dooglus> kb_: it's pretty much the default, only with the bottom bar replaced by avant-w-n
[12:40] <imperfect-> Is there a way to do create mask?
[12:40] <joel> cuz i wanted more perfomance
[12:40] <sabrina__>  /server synapthein.org
[12:40] <Elda> Well yeah :>  I suppose
[12:40] <joel> :)
[12:40] <xtknight> wimdows, about your previous question: try /var/log/gdm.n.log  where n is a number between 0 and 9 (highest being the last recorded log which usually only goes up to about 1)
[12:40] <sabrina__> uhh, sorry :)
[12:40] <ubuntu> Elda: But i had windows in that partition too
[12:40] <BryanJK> "Failed to check for installed and available applications" >__>
[12:41] <Pelo> joel, how's your permormance now ?
[12:41] <kb_> dooglus: hm... ok, well, the default's gotten a lot better in these last few years then
[12:41] <joel> perfect
[12:41] <joel> i think lol
[12:41] <Elda> Well, what I did when I worried about windows was set how much I wanted for linux, set up a 25 ish (still probably too big) boot partition and used about 2 gigs for a swap
[12:41] <joel> i just switched from windows
[12:41] <Pelo> joel,  chek you pm windows for instrctions on the nvidia driver
[12:41] <dooglus> kb_: refresh that URL I pasted - at first I accidentally only snapped the terminal window - now it's the whole desktop.  uglier now?
[12:41] <Meshezabeel> heya, just wondering if serial mice are now detected in edgy? I know they weren't detected in the previous two versions of ubuntu
[12:41] <joel> dammit windows lagging my pc
[12:42] <nixnoob> anyone know which version of the rt61 driver was used in feisty?
[12:42] <joel> and got rid of it
[12:42] <knoppix> Hello
[12:42] <nixnoob> was it the beta1 or 2 of the serialmonkey rt2x00 driver?
[12:42] <dooglus> congratulations joel :)
[12:42] <Elda> Right now though Im tired of windows, after my horrid experience with vista on this older laptop
[12:42] <lordsaka> hello
[12:42] <amigamia> why is Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011 ?
[12:42] <Raptor45> been thinking of trying out gfxboot... if I mess up grub, how can I restore it?
[12:42] <nixnoob> LTS=LONG TERM SUPPORT
[12:42] <MenZa> amigamia: 6.06 is Long Term Support
[12:42] <Raptor45> nixnoob, rt61 didn't work out of the box for me
[12:42] <Pelo> amigamia,  lts means, long term support
[12:42] <MenZa> And it's only the servers that get 5 years, desktops get 3 years IIRC
[12:42] <kb_> dooglus: looks the same to me, i may've been slow to load it and gotten that version the first time
[12:42] <joel> ya im pretty hapy with it but im too curious and get in issues like this one
[12:42] <Elda> how come 7.04 doest get that? :>
[12:42] <dooglus> kb_: ok
[12:42] <nixnoob> raptor45 me either im just trying to figure what version of the driver is included in feisty
[12:43] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:43] <Meshezabeel> er, what I meant was: is 7.04 capable of detecting serial mice? 6.06 and 6.10 weren't capable
[12:43] <Raptor45> nixnoob, ah... the legacy drivers worked for me though
[12:43] <amigamia> any comments on the server?
[12:43] <dooglus> kb_: so you're not using GNOME?  or not using feisty?
[12:43] <Raptor45> nixnoob, can't wait till it works out of the box
[12:43] <Ace2016> how do i use gfxboot themes in grub, the old tutorials don't work in feisty
[12:43] <Ace2016> can anyone help?
[12:43] <nixnoob> raptor i believe the legacy drivers are whats being used in feisty i just wanna kno if they are beta1 or beta2?
[12:43] <Wriest> What about the sounds
[12:43] <BryanJK> jussi01 or dooglus:  http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6296/umid3.png  ...any idea what thats about?
[12:44] <Raptor45> nixnoob, I'm pretty sure ubuntu uses the r2x00 driver instead of legacy
[12:44] <Wriest> I can't get it to make any noise when someone answere me
[12:44] <Elda> Meshezabeel, not quite sure about the serial mice :>  Let me see if I have one around here though to check.  If its not here it would be at home
[12:44] <joel> erm got a problem it said i need to install this
[12:44] <nixnoob> raptor45 i see thank you
[12:44] <kb_> dooglus: i booted into feisty all of about 10 minutes ago :)
[12:44] <Meshezabeel> Elda: ok thanks :)
[12:44] <jussi01> BryanJK: just follw those instructions
[12:44] <joel> You need to install the package
[12:44] <joel>   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:44] <joel> for this program to work.
[12:44] <Elda> meh, Im sorry no mice here :/
[12:44] <nixnoob> raptor45 i need to blacklist the rt2x00 driver for the legacy ones to work yes?
[12:44] <MenZa> so install it, joel
[12:45] <damacus> hello.
[12:45] <kb_> dooglus: i used to use gnome, but around 2000 or so, but then i switched to blackbox, then kde around '03 or '04
[12:45] <MenZa> joel: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:45] <dooglus> BryanJK: I'd close the update manager, open a terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and pastebin the result if I was you
[12:45] <Jay2> damacus, hi
[12:45] <Bitmess> How can I mount NTFS volume in read/write?
[12:45] <Raptor45> nixnoob, hmm was a while ago I did that... as I recall, I just went through the tests to build/install the legacy driver and it all came up fine
[12:45] <joel> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1
[12:45] <southafrikanse> What is the Ubuntu effects channel please?
[12:45] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > Bitmess  check your pm window
[12:45] <damacus> does anyone know why there isn't yet a USN for http://torrentfreak.com/multiple-vulnerabilities-discovered-in-ktorrent/ ?
[12:45] <dooglus> kb_: I've used KDE on and off, but don't really like it.  Not sure why really.  GNOME's dumbing down is annoying, but I don't like KDE much either...
[12:45] <damacus> or is the current version in ubuntu already patched?
[12:46] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  #ubuntu-effects
[12:46] <southafrikanse> Pelo: Thank you
[12:46] <dooglus> kb_: I quite like the Windows interface to be honest :)
[12:46] <kb_> dooglus: yeah - between gnome 1, and kde 2, i was totally in favor of gnome - but i've liked kde from 3.1 onwards, while i haven't liked gnome2
[12:46] <peepsalot> is there a way to back up a whole partition into a file on another drive, then mount it?
[12:46] <kb_> dooglus: imho, the ultimate ui was the beos one, but beos is, sadly, proprietary and dead
[12:46] <joel> what can i do then
[12:46] <joel> ?
[12:46] <damacus> peepsalot: yeah
[12:46] <Pelo> peepsalot,   sudo cp
[12:46] <kb_> and all the ui clones i've seen have entirely missed the good parts
[12:46] <damacus> dd if=/dev/partition of=/newdrive/file.dmp
[12:46] <nixnoob> raptor just make and then make install yes?
[12:46] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: did you spot anything in that pastbin post?
[12:47] <Smaug> whats a good program for annimation?
[12:47] <joel> can i reinstall default kernel?
[12:47] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I didn't even spot the pastebin URL sorry.  did you put my name in your message?
[12:47] <dooglus> Smaug: synfig :)
[12:47] <peepsalot> damacus, and I can mount that file just like a partition device?
[12:47] <Raptor45> nixnoob, read the documentation... you also have to copy a setup file somewhere if you want to use WEP and stuff
[12:47] <damacus> then on another computer you can mkdir /media/file; mount -o loop -t ext3 /path/to/file.dmp /media/file
[12:47] <Pelo> joel,  from synaptic
[12:47] <damacus> replacing ext3 with the correct partition type
[12:47] <peepsalot> damacus, ok, thx i will try that
[12:47] <damacus> yeah
[12:47] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471481
[12:47] <ceriand> does anyone have any experience with setting up bluetooth hid?
[12:47] <damacus> if you have problems, google mounting over loopback
[12:47] <nixnoob> Raptor45 thanks did u ever use the GUI frontend RutilT from the serialmokney site?
[12:47] <Smaug> dooglus: thanks
[12:47] <Raptor45> nixnoob, as I recall, it can only be set through that config file, not through command line or the GUI
[12:48] <joel> i install default kernel from synaptyc?
[12:48] <Raptor45> nixnoob, saw it, but never tried it
[12:48] <Pelo> joel,  you might want to remove your new kernel
[12:48] <weswh-> does anyone know if the version of ktorrent that comes with feisty is 2.1.4? When you hit "about ktorrent" in the app all they say is "2.1", that really bugs me.
[12:48] <Dave_is_sexy> everytime i start seamonkey it crashes instantly. firefox crashes every 5 mins or so. i'm not having much luck with this os.
[12:48] <weswh-> or does that mean I am literally running 2.1?
[12:48] <damacus> weswh-: yeah, I want to know too
[12:48] <BryanJK> dooglus: http://pastebin.ca/471493
[12:48] <damacus> I prefer ktorrent over azureus... but I'd rather not run a vulnerable client
[12:49] <peepsalot> damacus, do you have any recommendation if the other drive is across the network?  do I need to set up a samba share?  is there a simpler way?
[12:49] <damacus> I didn't see a USN for the ktorrent vuln
[12:49] <weswh-> yeah..well, for starters I just want to know what I'm running. heh
[12:49] <damacus> peepsalot: you can mount the file over the network, or create the file onto a network share.. but to create the file, you have to do it from the local machine
[12:49] <weswh-> peepsalot: are you trying to setup something permanent, or just copy a few files?
[12:49] <bob> SnakesAndStuff
[12:50] <Pici> weswh-: Looks like just 2.1-0ubuntu2, I did `aptitude show ktorrent`
[12:50] <joel> im confused, how do i remove it? what happens if i remove it?
[12:50] <peepsalot> i want to back up a drive before I format it
[12:50] <SnakesAndstuff> Has anyone here ever had any luck getting cinelerra to install on ubuntu feisty fawn?
[12:50] <weswh-> I just use an SFTP client to connect from my windows box or whatever..over ssh
[12:50] <Pelo> joel,  if your previous kernel is still ther you'll be able to boot it
[12:50] <weswh-> it's by far the easiest way to get things done.
[12:51] <dooglus> BryanJK: does "sudo apt-get -f install" fix it?
[12:51] <Raptor45> if I break my grub, how can it be restored? I know I've seen links to some utility somewhere
[12:51] <joel> isnt feisty kernel 2.6.20? i installed 2.6.20.ck1 and in grub theres not  a 2.6.20
[12:51] <sethk> Raptor45, there is a grub command line utility, called grub.  there is also grub-install
[12:51] <Pelo> joel,  as for the how , well if you compiled the same way anyother prog is compiled,  get the source,  run make then make uninstall ( or make remove I can never remember),  also consider backing up your data and maybe just reinstalling
[12:51] <kb_> peepsalot: i'd recommend using tar with the preserve options for that
[12:51] <nixnoob> Raptor45 one more question, did ra0 come up automatically or did u need to script a bunch on iwpriv stuff to make it associate?
[12:51] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: that's a strange error.  you shouldn't be using 'su' here at all - I'd try deleting the ripoff-* directory again, then leaving 'su' and doing it all as yourself.
[12:51] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I don't know if that would fix it or not though
[12:52] <Dave_is_sexy> ok
[12:52] <Raptor45> sethk, and if I am unable to boot? can I run that via the live cd?
[12:52] <BryanJK> dooglus: it fixes the app manager, yes
[12:52] <joel> can i reinstall ubuntu without loosing the downloaded programs?
[12:52] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: I'd also try installing "libxml2-dev" - do you have it already?
[12:53] <Pelo> joel, no,  but if youknow hat they are you can easily find them again and resinstall them
[12:53] <Raptor45> nixnoob, it was able to connect via that config file... at the end I just had to make a script to do dhcp on startup
[12:53] <nixnoob> Raptor45 thanks
[12:53] <amigamia> does ubuntu server automatically detect needed updates and retrieve them and install them as needed??????
[12:53] <BryanJK> dooglus: what irc client are you using?
[12:53] <dooglus> BryanJK: irssi
[12:53] <joel> can i rename my kernel?
[12:53] <weswh-> hmm...so in a situation like this, do you think 2.1.4 will make it into the ubuntu repos sooner than later? or are we going to be on our own?
[12:53] <joel> so it doesnt say ck1 at the end?
[12:53] <BryanJK> dooglus: it looks nice :D
[12:53] <wimdows> thanks xtknight - no, no gdm* log file in /var/log
[12:54] <dooglus> BryanJK: I run it inside screen on a remote server, so I can stay online even when my laptop is switched off
[12:54] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: no exactly the same errors
[12:54] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you installed "libxml2-dev"?
[12:54] <h4wk0> !torrent
[12:54] <Pelo> joel, yo'Re getting into stuff that I've never done , I can't realy hellp anymore
[12:54] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:54] <joel> oh ok
[12:54] <joel> thx anyways
[12:54] <dooglus> joel: you can specify the name when you build it
[12:55] <BryanJK> dooglus: and what was the dock you had?
[12:55] <dooglus> joel: or if you're talking about how it shows up in the grub menu, you can use whatever name you like there
[12:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[12:55] <damacus> h4wk0: well, its more than alternatives.  i'm new to ubuntu.. but I'm concerned about how long security vulnerabilities remain unresolved....
[12:55] <joel> this was the guide i used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409288&highlight=Kolivas
[12:55] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: i have now, and the error is the same
[12:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: no official package available.  I built it from source, but unofficial packages are available
[12:55] <Pelo> dooglus,  he compiled a new kernel and he can'T get his nvidia drivers to work right now,  he wants to go back
[12:56] <AzulSolaris> Anyone know off the top of their heads how to fix the resolution on an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 video card?
[12:56] <xtknight> wimdows, hmm well im nmot sure then.
[12:56] <xtknight> wimdows, oh /var/log/gdm/?
[12:56] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: it's a strange error indeed.  I didn't see it
[12:56] <wimdows> xtknight - ah! yes, gdm dir...
[12:57] <Elda> Azule I think I saw something about that on the forums
[12:57] <murat> hi all
[12:57] <sethk> Raptor45, yes, you can get to both grub and grub-install on the cd
[12:57] <wimdows> not sure which one to look at: :0.log  :0.log.1  :0.log.2  :0.log.3  :0.log.4  :20.log  :20.log.1  :20.log.2
[12:57] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: but I've compiled quite a lot of stuff on this box before, so it's quite possible I already installed some -dev package that you're missing and need
[12:57] <wimdows> 0.log.4 I guess?
[12:57] <murat> i have just seen a post about pidgin (former gaim im)
[12:57] <damacus> weswh-: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads
[12:57] <sethk> wimdows, do ls -ltr in /var/log, look at the most recent one (which will be the last one listed for ls -ltr)
[12:57] <damacus> they have a feisty package up there
[12:57] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: it's just not worth it really is it? win2k is fine
[12:58] <damacus> guess we'll have to use that until the security fix is addressed in ubuntu proper.
[12:58] <murat> if somebody know howto install pidgin on feisty
[12:58] <murat> ???
[12:58] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: there are other CD rippers available in the ubuntu repositories anyway.  is there any reason you want this one in particular?
[12:58] <joel> hello?
[12:58] <heatxsink> hello
[12:58] <gluttony> hi, im trying to run beryl on feisty, and its in my system tray. but my ubuntu is still using metaciy to manage the desktop. i click on beryl, the scree flickers, and then it is still set to medacity
[12:58] <Ix0s> gluttony, beryl --replace is usually good fro diasgnosis
[12:58] <fjleon> sup guys, does anyone of a ubuntu repository with pidgin (gaim) 2.0 final?
[12:58] <Pelo> gluttony,  #beryl
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: feisty has gaim 2.0.0 beta 6.
[12:59] <joel> ok nvm thx anyways cyaz
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: pidgin won't be until gutsy I guess
[12:59] <murat> hi fjleon, i am looking for pidgin too
[12:59] <fjleon> darn
[12:59] <murat> thanks dooglus
[12:59] <Ix0s> gluttony, run beryl --replace in terminal and pasterbin outcome
[12:59] <peepsalot> kb_, damacus, weswh- what if the partition is NTFS
[12:59] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: yes i don't like any of the others. used them all before. i have soundjuicer for now, but ripoff is how a ripper should be. why they make it so hard to install i do not know, but there is little i understand about linux developers
[12:59] <fjleon> guess we either have to wait for an unofficial repository or compile it myself
[12:59] <kb_> peepsalot: which partition? i haven't been following
[12:59] <dooglus> murat: you can build it yourself if you want the final version, but I doubt it will be much different from gaim 2.0.0 beta 6
[12:59] <murat> i will compile pidgin myself then
[01:00] <damacus> peepsalot: if you use dd, you'll get a block-for-block copy
[01:00] <damacus> and it can be remounted on a different linux box
[01:00] <peepsalot> kb_, a partition i want to make a copy of before I format this drive
[01:00] <fjleon> dooglus, actually the GUI changed drastically on beta 7/final
[01:00] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: are you running feisty?
[01:00] <kb_> peepsalot: hm.... dunno about how it'd be about keeping metadata or advanced stuff like ntfs streams, if you have any, but as long as you can read it, i'd expect tar to do ok on the actual data
[01:00] <murat> thanks dooglus and fjleon
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: you can install the one I just built if you like: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/ripoff_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[01:01] <peepsalot> damacus, how can I dd from the partition on one computer to a filesystem on another?
[01:01] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: ooh thanks
[01:01] <dooglus> fjleon: that's crazy :)  why have 6 betas and then make drastic changes just before release???
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: use "sudo dpkg -i <my.deb>"
[01:01] <dooglus> Dave_is_sexy: (without the < and > of course)
[01:02] <peepsalot> damacus, can I dd over scp somehow?
[01:02] <damacus> peepsalot: mount the remote filesystem
[01:02] <joel__> hello
[01:02] <BryanJK> dooglus: on the dock, it says "  2. Type `make' to compile the package."  after running configure in terminal... "root@bryan-desktop:/home/bryan/Desktop/avant-window-navigator-0.1.1# make
[01:02] <BryanJK> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[01:02] <damacus> then in the dd, set the of to use that mountpoint
[01:02] <wimdows> xtknight and sethk - here's the log from the first crash... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19178/
[01:02] <joel__> from the grub thing selected the other kernel
[01:02] <damacus> and yeah, you can use scp/ssh via SSHfs
[01:02] <joel__> how do i make it default?
[01:02] <peepsalot> damacus, so there is no getting around using samba
[01:03] <peepsalot> oh
[01:03] <damacus> i guess that depends on your situation, heh
[01:03] <peepsalot> i haven't tried sshfs before
[01:03] <joel__> how do i change the default kernel from grub?
[01:03] <Dave_is_sexy> dooglus: oh wow. awesome it's done! Thanks very much!
[01:03] <damacus> i mean, if you can use NFS... definitely go that route
[01:03] <xtknight> wimdows, hm seems like some type of forceful error to me.. sig11...i think ive gotten a Signal from X before but i cant remember at all the details
[01:03] <southafrikanse> Where are the logon themes located on our disk? I want to put an image there so it can go by default
[01:03] <damacus> or if you can put the image onto an external drive
[01:03] <fjleon> hey murat
[01:03] <xtknight> wimdows, i'd suggest maybe reinstalling xserver pkgs...but when did this start happening/what have you done to limit the problem/etc?
[01:03] <fjleon> http://cpanel.prohosts.org/filemanager/index.php?ftpserver=ftp.byetcluster.com&ftpserverport=2121&username=ph_575081&password_encrypted=72656E6567616465&language=en&skin=blue&ftpmode=automatic&passivemode=yes&sslconnect=no&viewmode=list&sort=&sortorder=&directory=%2F&entry=pidgin_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb&state=downloadfile
[01:03] <fjleon> check that out
[01:03] <h4wk0> Whats the ntfs write package again :s
[01:04] <h4wk0> ntfs-config?
[01:04] <joel__> whats pidgin?
[01:04] <ZombieCross> ntfs-3g
[01:04] <ZombieCross> Pidgin is the new Gaim.
[01:04] <fjleon> gaim
[01:04] <AaronMT> !gaim > joel__
[01:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/avant-window_svn173-1_i386.deb ?
[01:04] <damacus> libpurpleolol
[01:04] <joel__> ooohhh
[01:04] <wimdows> xtknight, just started happening today....
[01:04] <raschko> ne 1 here have tips on how to shrink the launcher icons in a panel??
[01:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: I built it from subversion, not the 0.1.1 version
[01:05] <Raptor45> so, has anyone gotten gfxboot to work in feisty? is it definitely broken?
[01:05] <damacus> anyone know of a good image viewer, similar to eye of gnome.. that supports animated gifs?
[01:05] <xtknight> wimdows, out of the blue..?
[01:05] <wimdows> xtknight - I used to have beryl / XGL working on here...
[01:05] <joel__> how can i edit grub?
[01:05] <xtknight> wimdows, since an apt update perhaps?
[01:05] <joel__> i want to change the default kernel
[01:05] <damacus> (most important features:  animated gifs, fullscreen scaled view, and navigating between images in a folder without loading them all into the app first)
[01:05] <wimdows> but couldn't deal without the direct 3d rendering so reinstalled ati packages and had it back...
[01:05] <wimdows> was working fine for quite a number of weeks
[01:06] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks! ...is that it?
[01:06] <baa_> can anyone with usenet recommend a good bin post proggy.
[01:06] <dooglus> BryanJK: alternatively, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 - in fact you'll need to see that anyway, 'cos there's some gconf command you have to run before it'll work
[01:06] <baa_> for windows even.
[01:06] <BryanJK> dooglus: sounds good
[01:06] <dooglus> BryanJK: that's a binary package of the current subversion version compiled
[01:06] <wimdows> xtknight - can I simply reinstall xserver packages/
[01:06] <wimdows> ?
[01:06] <joel__> how can i edit grub?
[01:07] <joel__> how can i edit grub default kernel?
[01:07] <ice9> !remote
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <xtknight> wimdows, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" first
[01:07] <GrueTamer> joel__: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:07] <joel__> thx
[01:07] <peepsalot> is there a simple command to see free space on a partition?
[01:07] <murat> joel, you want to boot different kernel then the default one
[01:07] <ice9> using realVNC on windows to remote into gnome box
[01:07] <kb_> woah, why does network-agent take so long to apply changes?
[01:08] <dooglus> joel__: grub's config file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:08] <ice9> but I can't get sound to work does anyone know how
[01:08] <william> just one quick question...i installed GAIM Beta 6 with Automatix2...i see now version 6 is out but i still didnt get the update...does automatix take care of updates for me?
[01:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Doesn't apt-get resolve dependences?
[01:08] <kb_> CPrgmSwR2: it does
[01:08] <ice9> does anyone know how to enable sound with realvnc
[01:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Then I read a stupid article
[01:09] <william> Anyone?Does Automatix2 take care of the updates for me?
[01:09] <Filthpig> !themes
[01:09] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:09] <dooglus> william: I don't think so.
[01:09] <wimdows> xtknight - hmmm - it's now changed my driver from fgrlx to ati in xorg.conf
[01:09] <Filthpig> !changethemes | southafrikanse
[01:09] <ubotu> southafrikanse: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:09] <wimdows> so I'll change that back to fgrlx
[01:10] <xtknight> wimdows, nah dont for now
[01:10] <kb_> yay, networking works
[01:10] <xtknight> wimdows, just see if gdm starts without an issue?  if so then continue and reinstall Prop ati drivers
[01:10] <wimdows> hmm ok
[01:10] <matt____1> can someone please explain to me "window managers". like the compiz, aiglx, xgl. i want to get this to work. http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/ look at the download section, 3rd sentance
[01:10] <connor> my camera is not working properly; when I connect it to the laptop I get the "camera detected" message, but then when I click "import photos", it gives me "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
[01:11] <wimdows> xtknight - so just Ctrl-Alt backspace, right
[01:11] <BryanJK> blah, random gnome crash >_>
[01:11] <xtknight> wimdows, yea to restart X servef
[01:11] <wimdows> aye
[01:11] <kira_> hi there.... somebody knows a nice tool so i can make a video from my beryl desktop?
[01:11] <dooglus> matt____1: which is the 3rd sentence?
[01:12] <asherZ> in compiz how do u enable bottom cube image?
[01:12] <dooglus> matt____1: oh, the download section, ok
[01:12] <matt____1> dooglus: where it mentions Awn needs a composited environment to run
[01:12] <Braddf0rd> Hey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
[01:12] <Braddf0rd> I rebooted and tried again, and nothing... did the same thing
[01:13] <Braddf0rd> Should I reinstall it or something?
[01:13] <plowsoke> hey, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu.  my problem seems to have been mentioned on the official forums a few times, but i don't believe i've been able to find any official fix.  the installer runs normally, until the first GUI loads, then the screen is orange with some random artifacts and it just stops reacting, not frozen, there's just nothing to do.  from what i've read this is caused by some kind of compatibility issue with my
[01:13] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks, your deb package worked by itself :D
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus: oops, wrong button, i am going to have to restart xserver, give me a second
[01:14] <dooglus> matt____1: ok, I see.  are you running beryl or compiz?  ie. wobbly windows and all that.
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus:
[01:14] <Braddf0rd> Hey, I'm having a problem with Compiz not enabling... It was enabled, my gf went into Vista, I came back and it was off, and when I went to enable it, it couldn't... what should I do to fix this?
[01:14] <matt____1> dooglus: well, im not. i don't understand compiz, is it the default ubuntu manager thing?
[01:14] <dooglus> BryanJK: right.  I think 0.1.1 needed a separate gconf command, but maybe the svn version doesn't...  I tried 0.1.1 first, hence my confusion
[01:14] <CPrgmSwR2> re-install is a quick fix Barddf0rd
[01:14] <farseer_> hello, how can i reach a linux partition from a windows computer. over the network?
[01:15] <lufis> What's java_vm and why's it taking up 91% of my CPU?
[01:15] <BryanJK> dooglus: well gnome crashed for some reason, and I come back and have Avant in my accessories menu
[01:15] <BryanJK> works great
[01:15] <CPrgmSwR2> but I would advise tring to figure out what went wrong
[01:15] <plowsoke> lufis: java virtual machine i'm guessing
[01:15] <dooglus> BryanJK: what's nice with it is that you can drag launchers onto the panel as well - then launchers and open windows use the same icon
[01:15] <CPrgmSwR2> then you don't have to re-install everytime it happens
[01:15] <Elda> Lufis, sounds to me like that Java Virtual Machine
[01:15] <jrib> lufis: java virtual machine and because it is java
[01:15] <farseer_> .. is that what samba is used for?
[01:15] <lufis> sheesh, how do i disable it?
[01:15] <ice9> java is a memory hog
[01:15] <BryanJK> is it also for windows?
[01:15] <matt____1> dooglus: i just enabled compiz, but i have no window borders or anything
[01:15] <matt____1> dooglus: why?
[01:15] <BryanJK> like its showing windows I have open*
[01:15] <julio> Can somebody help me with getting Hotmail to work in Evolution?
[01:15] <ice9> depends to you have anything up that is java
[01:15] <ice9> applets ,
[01:15] <ice9> maybe
[01:16] <plowsoke> hey so anyone know a fix for that nvidia install issue?
[01:16] <dooglus> BryanJK: you can set it to auto hide too - it will hide when your mouse leaves it, unless it leaves by creeping along the bottom edge of the screen - so you can easily hide it or leave it on screen as you like
[01:16] <lufis> ice9: I don't use any java apps, haven't run a java applet in firefox in a week or more
[01:16] <dooglus> matt____1: I don't know.  in feisty is that?
[01:16] <eck> lufis: look at the ppid
[01:16] <kb_> lufis: well, it's presumably running something
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus:
[01:16] <lufis> :-/
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus: yes
[01:16] <tolstoy> Folks, what user do cron jobs in cron.hourly run as?  I see no cron user in /etc/passwd.
[01:16] <ice9> hmm
[01:16] <eck> lufis: i.e. the parent, it will tell you what spawned it
[01:16] <jvolkman> lufis, azureus?
[01:16] <Braddf0rd> DOES anyone know if I can reinstall compiz to make it work again????
[01:16] <lufis> jvolkman: no java apps
[01:16] <dooglus> matt____1: there's a separate channel for compiz:
[01:16] <dooglus> !compiz
[01:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:16] <matt____1> dooglus: what is it?
[01:17] <dooglus> #ubuntu-effects
[01:17] <farseer_> Braddf0rd, try it then
[01:17] <tolstoy> !cron
[01:17] <eck> tolstoy: i believe root, just run a cron job that echos whoami to a file to find out
[01:17] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:17] <bsod> hi :)
[01:17] <dooglus> they helped me get it working with this card which doesn't support it properly without using the Xgl server (or something - I don't understand it either :) )
[01:17] <jvolkman> lufis: ps -ef and find out what its parent is
[01:18] <jvolkman> lufis: look at "PPID" for java_vm and then find that same number in the "PID" column
[01:18] <Ix0s> !beryl
[01:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:18] <BryanJK> dooglus: its kinda like the mac dock... really nice
[01:18] <wimdows> xtknight - back, the ati driver string didn't work....so back to fglrx now, which crashed again after first time login to the session, now seems fine
[01:18] <farseer_> hellooooo :P must i use samba to acces partitions mounted as ntfs, from another computer running windows?
[01:18] <lufis> jvolkman: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:21:29 java_vm
[01:18] <dooglus> BryanJK: yes, like the mac dock but without the fancy zooming effects
[01:19] <plowsoke> lol... any help at all? ;x
[01:19] <lufis> jvolkman: pstree shows it's its own independent process, no parent
[01:19] <Braddf0rd> farseer_, I don't have Navidia OR ATI, I'm using the Intel 940
[01:19] <BryanJK> dooglus: i love the zoomy effects too :D
[01:19] <eck> lufis: yes, it daemonized itself
[01:19] <lufis> eck: how do i de-daemonize it? :(
[01:19] <farseer_> Braddf0rd, bad for u :/ i have no idea then
[01:19] <dooglus> BryanJK: if you save your GNOME session, it should start up automatically each time you log in
[01:19] <eck> lufis: you can't -- you need to try to figure out what app you are running that would invoke java
[01:19] <xtknight> wimdows, hmm , so it's sporadic huh?
[01:19] <nowhere> is it possible to execute a cronjob in gnu screen?
[01:20] <jpjacobs> nowhere, why would you?
[01:20] <BryanJK> dooglus, cant you just add it to /.config/autostart?
[01:20] <jvolkman> lufis: you could kill it and see if anything disappears =)
[01:20] <wimdows> xtknight - looks like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19179/
[01:20] <eck> nowhere: sure, just create a screenrc that runs the commands and run the cron job that executes screen with that profile
[01:20] <Braddf0rd> ok, does anyone know how I might get compiz running if it decides to stop working???
[01:20] <lufis> eck: I'm not running anything using java. Not a thing. Unless you count firefox which might be invoking it, but that's unlikely anyway because i don't have any java applets running
[01:20] <dooglus> BryanJK: I guess.  although I had problems trying to get it to run when I added it to ~/.xprofile.  I don't know about ~/.config/autostart.  try it, I guess :)
[01:20] <eck> lufis: i would just kill it then
[01:20] <lufis> eck: it just comes back up
[01:21] <dooglus> BryanJK: it was taking up the whole bottom inch of the screen with a black stripe.
[01:21] <eck> that's strange
[01:21] <BryanJK> dooglus: if i try it, my computer will no boot up the next time prolly :P
[01:21] <BryanJK> not*
[01:21] <eck> are you sure it isn't blocking sigterm?
[01:21] <lufis> eck: 15258 sam       15   0  240m 8584 2752 S 72.9  2.2   5063:58 java_vm
[01:21] <dooglus> BryanJK: you'll be able to control-alt-f1 and undo the damange from there
[01:21] <Braddf0rd> HELL, does anyone know the room for compiz???
[01:21] <lufis> eck: 79.9 = cpu usage
[01:21] <moDumass> hey all, so um, after getting monitor 2 working with the X server settings (nvidia) and it looks pretty and all, how do i get anything onto it
[01:21] <eck> lufis: but when you kill it, it actually terminates and the pid changes
[01:22] <moDumass> braddford, go to #beryl
[01:22] <eck> ?
[01:22] <dooglus> BryanJK: basically, nothing you do as your user can stop the machine booting.  you need 'sudo' (or an exploit) to really break things.
[01:22] <lufis> eck: killall java_vm returns no errors, but it's spawned immediately afterwards
[01:22] <Braddf0rd> Thank you moDumass
[01:22] <dooglus> BryanJK: I suppose filling the disk right up is something you can do as a user to cause trouble
[01:22] <wimdows> that pastebin is the last log msg, the one before it moans about screen not being DRI capable:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19180/
[01:22] <moDumass> no prob
[01:22] <wimdows> xtknight - I tried before adding an AIGLX section in to the xorg but removed it as it didn't do anything
[01:23] <eck> lufis: weird -- if it respawns that means another application is forking and recreating a java daemon, but i'm not sure how you would determine what application that was
[01:23] <BryanJK> dooglus: ...can you move the Avant dock?
[01:23] <dooglus> BryanJK: no
[01:23] <martalli> Does the core 2 duo not support 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:23] <dooglus> BryanJK: I think that's on the author's TODO list
[01:23] <eck> martalli: it does
[01:23] <lufis> eck: well, like i said, pstree is showing it as its own parent. I don't know what would be spawning it, considering I don't run any java applications at all, nor do I have any java applets open
[01:24] <wimdows> not sure if some of it is still a left over from the XGL / Beryl stuff
[01:24] <BryanJK> dooglus: ya, it does kinda look bad stretching the 16x16 icons to like 54x54 :P
[01:24] <eck> lufis: right, if the ppid is 1 that means it daemonized itself, so there is no way of determining what application originally spawned it
[01:24] <xtknight> wimdows, ah hold on
[01:24] <martalli> I have a dell m1210 and when I boot the 64 bit disk, it says myu processor does not upport it - "use a 32 bit distro"
[01:24] <lufis> eck: But there's got to be a way to undaemonize it, right?
[01:25] <xtknight> wimdows, well im really not sure what's going on
[01:25] <wimdows> :-(
[01:25] <eck> lufis: no, being a daemon just means your parent is init and you don't have any file descriptors open on any ttys/consoles
[01:25] <xtknight> kinda hard to debug from afar
[01:25] <lufis> eck: oh
[01:25] <wimdows> I know
[01:25] <eck> lufis: a daemon cannot respawn itself anyway, another process needs to fork and create the daemon
[01:25] <xtknight> wimdows,  so getting rid of all the xgl/compiz/beryl/composite/all-that-stuff didnt help?
[01:25] <Jay2> how can i boot in ubuntu and display the initial boot up messages for debugging purposes?
[01:25] <lufis> eck: I'm getting rid of java then. This is crazy :(
[01:26] <dooglus> BryanJK: you can right-click a bad-looking icon, click 'preferences' and select a better icon if you like
[01:26] <timewriter> hi
[01:26] <lufis> eck: it's STILL pegging my cpu
[01:26] <wimdows> xtknight - I don't think it's all uninstalled
[01:26] <plowsoke> well, here's a thread with my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=a07ef38c3b3336ab48cc12dfd23053dd&t=433166&highlight=install+orange+screen
[01:26] <[Meta] > Woot!
[01:26] <eck> lufis: to find out what process was spawning you'd need to know the pppid, but of course that doesn't exist ;-)
[01:26] <crimsun> martalli: using a 7.04 desktop cd?
[01:26] <xtknight> wimdows, well i'd suggest working from the first warnings in the log file...
[01:26] <asherZ> someone please help. i have compiz enabled w/ GL Desktop and cant enable bottom cube image theres no option i can enable top cube img :S
[01:26] <xtknight> wimdows, the failed to setup writecomining range errors...
[01:26] <lufis> eck: i think it's 1, right?  ps -ef | grep java gives: sam      15258     1 91 Apr30 ?        3-12:26:25 java_vm
[01:27] <wimdows> xtknight - I just manually edited xorg.conf and reinstalled the ati drivers
[01:27] <eck> lufis: you might also see what files it has open with lsof, that might give a clue of what it is doing
[01:27] <martalli> crimsun:  yes -
[01:27] <dooglus> plowsoke: the usual advice in that situation is "try the alternate install cd"
[01:27] <xtknight> wimdows,  not that i know what that means but it may suggest something...the rule to go by is always to look at the first errors as they could cause subsequent ones.  but unfortunately there are exceptions
[01:27] <timewriter> i cant compile xchat from source
[01:27] <eck> lufis: yes, the parent is 1 (but you haven't killed it yet, since it's been running since april 30)
[01:27] <dooglus> timewriter: are you sure you want to?
[01:27] <crimsun> martalli: please file a bug against the linux-source-2.6.20 source package using bugs.launchpad.net
[01:27] <plowsoke> dooglus: which rules out the possibility of using Ubuntu Live eh?
[01:27] <timewriter> dooglus: yes
[01:27] <lufis> eck: huh. killall java_vm doesn't return any errors
[01:28] <eck> lufis: it can block sigterm, try kill -9
[01:28] <lufis> ok
[01:28] <dooglus> timewriter: what's the problem, specifically?
[01:28] <martalli> crimsun:  OK
[01:28] <eck> the default behavior of sigterm is to send sigterm
[01:28] <timewriter> let me show u
[01:28] <peepsalot> any software RAID tutorials for Ubuntu?
[01:28] <william> sry i already posted this question but need confirmation...does automatix take care of updates for me?
[01:28] <eck> err, the default behavior of kill
[01:28] <LjL> !automatix
[01:28] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:28] <peepsalot> !raid
[01:28] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:28] <lufis> eck: I think that did the trick :)
[01:28] <dooglus> !automatix
[01:29] <wimdows> xtknight, well - I'm guessing it's even before the write-combining errors... in particular: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found
[01:29] <regulus> hello
[01:29] <jmashaw> !WorksForMe
[01:29] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:29] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:29] <regulus> any spanish here??
[01:29] <timewriter> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:29] <dooglus> !es
[01:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:29] <timewriter> this is the error
[01:29] <regulus> I need help abou the screen resolution
[01:29] <lufis> eck: oh, thank god. That's crazy. It was pegging my cpu nonstop
[01:29] <crimsun> timewriter: reinstall build-essential
[01:29] <xtknight> timewriter, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:29] <dooglus> timewriter: install build-essential
[01:29] <timewriter> they arent installed
[01:29] <timewriter> ok i was thinking about that
[01:29] <timewriter> thanks
[01:29] <wimdows> xtknight - I think that's to do with XGL
[01:29] <william> wow seriously?!but on the ubuntu forums everybody seem to praise automatix...even michael dell uses it! :)
[01:29] <dooglus> timewriter: also, install the dependencies for xchat:  "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat"
[01:30] <regulus> arf!
[01:30] <timewriter> ok
[01:30] <xtknight> lol michael dell
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: (or "xchat-gnome", depending on which one you're building)
[01:30] <timewriter> i use gnome
[01:30] <eck> lufis: i think that kill will always exit normally, because afaik it's not possible to tell if the process that was killed ever received the signal
[01:30] <regulus> I tried with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it does nto work!
[01:30] <lufis> eck: ah, that explains it then
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: sure, but there are 2 versions of xchat
[01:30] <xtknight> wimdows, perhaps :]
[01:30] <joel__> fixed my  problem just made the old kernel default and reinstalled nvidia driver
[01:30] <xtknight> :\
[01:30] <dooglus> timewriter: both are gnome programs I think
[01:31] <dooglus> timewriter: I mean GTK programs
[01:31] <timewriter> then which one should i go for
[01:31] <xtknight> wimdows, my mind is rather blank at the moment.  how did you attempt to use xgl/aiglx again?
[01:31] <lufis> eck: I'll know what to do next time things get sluggish. Thanks :)
[01:31] <eck> no problem :-)
[01:31] <timewriter> oioi
[01:31] <timewriter> configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: I'd recommend irssi personally, but if you insist on an xchat, "xchat" was better than "xchat-gnome" last time I looked
[01:32] <dooglus> !info xchat
[01:32] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[01:32] <dooglus> !info xchat-gnome
[01:32] <timewriter> im on irsii
[01:32] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.16-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 784 kB
[01:32] <wimdows> xtknight - good question - followed some tutorial...
[01:32] <timewriter> but my eyes are really sick
[01:32] <timewriter> i cant use it
[01:32] <wimdows> xtknight - where can I find gdm.conf?
[01:32] <xtknight> wimdows, /etc ?
[01:32] <kitche> timewriter: have to install glibbut why not just install the package?
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: make the font bigger.
[01:32] <william> ok well anyway is it normal that gaim 2.0 is still not in synaptic?synaptic takes care of the updates right?!
[01:32] <timewriter> its big enough
[01:32] <dooglus> timewriter: so what's the problem?
[01:32] <timewriter> the thing is that on irsii lines are moving too fast
[01:33] <timewriter> i just cant watch all
[01:33] <grimeboy> I'm really confused. My battery is at 90% and charging and I haven't been using it.
[01:33] <c00i90wn> Hi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry
[01:33] <dooglus> timewriter: so join #debian instead.  they love ubuntu questions there ;)
[01:33] <wimdows> xtknight - ah yes - well, in /etc/gdm/ ;-)
[01:33] <timewriter> lol
[01:33] <c00i90wn> btw, on feisty
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: what do you mean? gaim 2.0 comes with ubuntu already
[01:33] <Slick_> hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
[01:33] <william> no its not gaim2.0
[01:33] <grimeboy> pidgin
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: 2.0b7 then, whatever.
[01:33] <dooglus> wimdows: gaim 2 was released after feisty was released.
[01:33] <plowsoke> can anyone link me to the latest alternate installer ISO torrent for AMD64?  tried about 15 mirrors from the main site and they're all broken lol
[01:33] <Agrajag> william: are you talking about pidgin?
[01:33] <stardust> #new2irc
[01:34] <timewriter> how do i install glib /
[01:34] <william> yea pidgin
[01:34] <william> just got renamed sry
[01:34] <Agrajag> william: that's not the same, and it won't ever be in fiesty
[01:34] <william> y?
[01:34] <dooglus> wimdows: ubuntu won't be adding new versions of things to old releases - only for security fixes mostly
[01:34] <Agrajag> william: you don't change package versions in a stable release
[01:34] <erpo> The package gpsd-clients in Feisty Fawn has a bug that is corrected in a newer version of the software. The maintainer is listed as Ubuntu MOTU Developers. How do I contact "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" and get them to put out an update?
[01:34] <jrib> timewriter: you probably already have glib
[01:34] <grimeboy> Cause
[01:34] <timewriter> uhm
[01:34] <william> but then synaptic never updates your packages?
[01:35] <timewriter> u mean libglib2.0-0 ?
[01:35] <Slick_> hey guys, how do I remove a shortcut to a mounted partition which is on my desktop?
[01:35] <wimdows> dooglus - how nice of you to inform me ;-) I think your replies were directed at william?
[01:35] <Agrajag> william: yes it does, if there is a security update you will get an update.
[01:35] <c00i90wn> mmm no one? :S
[01:35] <jrib> timewriter: exactly
[01:35] <timewriter> its there
[01:35] <Agrajag> william: and when Gutsy comes out you can use the update manager to update to it.
[01:35] <timewriter> then why i get the error
[01:35] <dooglus> wimdows: probably.  it's late :)
[01:35] <jrib> timewriter: what error?  what are you doing?
[01:35] <timewriter> uhm
[01:35] <timewriter> i need dev packages
[01:35] <c00i90wn> Slick_: wait, I can't remember, looking for it
[01:35] <drew> william: have you tried the pidgin yet?
[01:35] <wimdows> dooglus - not probably...."most certainly" ;-)
[01:36] <dooglus> william: you'll get updates for security fixes, and serious bug fixes, but not for regular version increments
[01:36] <william> no not yet but ive seen ppl try it on the forum
[01:36] <william> and i have beta 6 through automatix
[01:36] <drew> does it look different?
[01:36] <zipped20x> i have a question
[01:36] <peepsalot> Can anyone help me use the alternate install cd from a USB CD drive?
[01:36] <[Meta] > Uh oh
[01:36] <[Meta] > Uh oh
[01:37] <[Meta] > Guys. I can't do anything now.
[01:37] <timewriter> oioi
[01:37] <[Meta] > :S
[01:37] <jmashaw> !ask
[01:37] <peepsalot> it gets to a point where it wants cd drivers, but it worked up to that point?!
[01:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:37] <zipped20x> is there any way to reformat part of my linux partition without harming the current linux installation
[01:37] <timewriter> jrib: im trying to compile xchat from source
[01:37] <[Meta] > I got into the oem user then I created a new user
[01:37] <william> drew: although it would make more sense if it did since its a 2.0 no not really
[01:37] <timewriter> and i get a lot of errors
[01:37] <[Meta] > And deleted the oem one.
[01:37] <[Meta] > Bad move. x_X
[01:37] <[Meta] > How do I log in to the root user?
[01:37] <peepsalot> is there a particular module i need to load?
[01:38] <LjL> [Meta] : reboot into recovery mode and add your user to the "admin" group (adduser username admin)
[01:38] <dooglus> [Meta] : it's recommended not to, and to use 'sudo' instead, but 'sudo -i' will give you a root prompt
[01:38] <AaronMT> !sudo > [Meta]
[01:38] <c00i90wn> Slick_: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible false
[01:38] <jmashaw> zipped20x: you can use gparted to resize and then reformat a part of it, but be careful, as it is not always 100% succesful
[01:38] <timewriter> whats is srcinst ?
[01:38] <AaronMT> !gparted > zipped20x
[01:38] <Flannel> Meglo: er... You shouldn't have deleted the OEM one.  There's a script to finish up your install (oem-config-prepare, or something like that).
[01:38] <BryanJK> dooglus: Thanks, it looks great
[01:38] <jmashaw> !gparted
[01:38] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:38] <[Meta] > Ugh.
[01:38] <[Meta] > Okay LjL
[01:38] <william> ok so although automatix is highly unrecommended apparently, can someone tell me if they update their packages?
[01:38] <LjL> william, ask in #automatix
[01:38] <[Meta] > But I'm pretty sure I did that before
[01:38] <zipped20x> what happens if it isn't successful?
[01:39] <Chetwin> Hi all
[01:39] <Chetwin> !pidgin
[01:39] <drew> william: ill install anyway, maybe some cool new features, curious which direction its heading.
[01:39] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - At the time of feisty's final freeze, Pidgin has not been released, so Pidgin will not be going into feisty.  Expect Pidgin in feisty+1!  See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info
[01:39] <AaronMT> !automatix
[01:39] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:39] <zipped20x> and do i do it through the terminal?
[01:39] <Flannel> Meglo: actually.  Don't need to do that.  Run that script (from recovery mode), type "oem" and hit tab, and it'll complete to it.  Then reboot again, and you'll get prompted to create a real user
[01:39] <jmashaw> well, it can destroy the data on your drive.
[01:39] <jmashaw> no, it is graphical
[01:39] <zipped20x> how do i access it?
[01:39] <jpiccolo> can low amount of ram on a server affect ftp transfer speed?
[01:39] <Chetwin> Hey all, will build-essential install EVERYTHING I need to compile a prog from source???
[01:40] <[Meta] > Flannel: Were you talking to me?
[01:40] <peepsalot> um, please has anyone successfully run an Ubuntu install from a USB CD drive?
[01:40] <Baje> there a way to get my xchat to open up when i click irc links on websites?
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : sorry, yeah.
[01:40] <Meglo> :P
[01:40] <[Meta] > :S
[01:40] <LjL> Chetwin: of course not, each program will depend on the libraries that the programmer has chosen to use
[01:40] <[Meta] > I dunno how.
[01:40] <[Meta] > ;_;
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : I said something else to you before too.  Well, to him.
[01:40] <c00i90wn> Hi, I'm having the following problem, I installed network-manager-pptp but when I click on the NetworkManager icon I can't see VPNS entry on feisty
[01:40] <c00i90wn> Slick_: worked?
[01:40] <jmashaw> !gparted
[01:40] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:40] <Flannel> [Meta] : Reboot, recovery mode.  then run the "oem" thing (oem[tab]  ought to complete to it) then reboot, and it'll ask you about making your real user.
[01:40] <BryanJK> dooglus: if you wanna see it, heres a link http://tinyurl.com/32fjot
[01:40] <[Meta] > Type oem and then press tab?
[01:41] <Chetwin> LjL: I downloaded the source for a program because a binary wasn't avail.  How can I get started
[01:41] <lbawinowns> I have a NTFS partition that works perfectly, but if I delte files from it, does it go to a recycle bin?
[01:41] <Jump86> has anyone heard of pclinuxos? it seems to be getting some attention lately
[01:41] <Flannel> [Meta] : yeah.  From the recovery console.  It should complete it.  To something like "oem-config-prepare"
[01:41] <wimdows> xtknight - can I reinstall xserver-xorg?
[01:41] <[Meta] > Okay. -.-
[01:41] <zipped20x> and if it's not 100% successful what will happen to the partition?
[01:41] <LjL> Chetwin: by installing build-essential, for sure. then read the INSTALL file. it'll probably tell you to run ./configure, run it. if it complains about missing development dependencies, install them, run it again. when it stops complaining, you can run "make".
[01:41] <lbawinowns> since I don't think my space has increased even tough I've deleted a couple of files
[01:41] <LjL> !compile > Chetwin    (Chetwin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:42] <xtknight> wimdows, sudo apt-get --reinstall install <pkgname>    (yes install is in there twice0
[01:42] <Gerro> lbawinowns: you would have to "move" stuff to the recycling bin not delete it
[01:42] <Flannel> [Meta] : ifthere's more than one `oem` thing, you'll need to hit tab twice, and you'll gt a list of them.
[01:42] <dooglus> BryanJK: looks good
[01:42] <jmashaw> I have never had it happen to me, but if it dies it could destroy the partition
[01:42] <Slick_> c00i90wn: I wasnt trying to hide one of them, I was trying to rename one of them so that it represents the name in the mounted volume
[01:42] <Chetwin> Thanks LjL!
[01:42] <dooglus> BryanJK: quite a low resolution though - is it a small screen?
[01:42] <wimdows> ok cheers xtknight
[01:42] <[Meta] > Okay, Flannel.
[01:42] <[Meta] > Be back soon
[01:43] <BryanJK> dooglus: its 1600x1200, the image was resized because it was a large file size
[01:43] <dooglus> BryanJK: I se
[01:43] <dooglus> e
[01:43] <lbawinowns> Gerro: what happen if I just press delete button?
[01:43] <Wriest_> how do I install wallpapers and different tar files?
[01:43] <BryanJK> dooglus: imageshack tends to do that if its over 1.5mb
[01:43] <timewriter> im stucked
[01:43] <piercy> can anyone help me get windows onto my grub menu and for ti to boot please :)
[01:43] <AaronMT> Wriest_ just right click your image and set as wallpaper
[01:43] <gesus> hey is there any way to play half-life in ubuntu without installing wine?
[01:43] <zipped20x> it didn't work
[01:43] <drew> gesus: cedega?
[01:44] <Flannel> piercy: XP? or Vista?
[01:44] <piercy> xp
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: see the end of http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/menu.lst
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: that's for XP home
[01:44] <c00i90wn> Slick_: sorry, read hide :S
[01:44] <dooglus> piercy: sorry, prof.
[01:44] <roustem> I cannot install my "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" wifi card in Feisty. I followed these directions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Hardware#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset
[01:44] <Flannel> booting shouldnt matter between prof and home.
[01:44] <drew> gesus: there is no direct linux version of Steam software, or half life. Have to use Cedega or wine.
[01:45] <UnluckyMike> roustem: try bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:45] <piercy> mines prof anyway
[01:45] <gesus> drew, thank you
[01:45] <piercy> ill tyr it and come back in a sec... so i add this to menu.lst then do sudo update-grub then reboot?
[01:45] <zipped20x> i'm trying to put a windows partition on my second hard drive but it wont let me because the hard drive that it wants to put it on has the linux on it
[01:45] <dooglus> piercy: I don't think you need to update-grub - just edit the file
[01:45] <piercy> ok
[01:45] <piercy> brb
[01:46] <jnc> I don't see info on whether or not Dell is shipping notebooks with Ubuntu pre-installed today, or not... any pointers?
[01:46] <dooglus> piercy: you'll need sudo to edit it though
[01:46] <BryanJK> dooglus: theres a shortcut to "CounterStrike Source" I want on the dock, but whenever I drag it... (even from the desktop) it discards it
[01:46] <timewriter> i got mad
[01:46] <dooglus> BryanJK: drag it to the very left edge - not onto an existing icon
[01:46] <timewriter> stoopid xchat
[01:46] <zipped20x> would i be able to instead of doing !gparted physically switch the 1st hard drive and the second hard drive?
[01:46] <zipped20x> the linux hard drive is on the master part of the ide and my second is on the slave part
[01:46] <jmashaw> zipped20x: I supose that would be easy enough
[01:47] <BryanJK> dooglus: I do, but it just doesn't do anything... I drag another icon (Steam) to the exact same place, and it works
[01:47] <BryanJK> :|
[01:47] <zipped20x> and it wont harm a thing?
[01:47] <jmashaw> I am not sure, because I am not exactly sure what you mean.
[01:47] <UnluckyMike> zipped20x: just change your bios to boot whichever hard drive first
[01:47] <dooglus> BryanJK: I've not seen that problem here.  but I've not tried with many icons
[01:48] <dooglus> BryanJK: what happens if you "ls -l" on the icon's file?
[01:48] <zipped20x> turn the master drive into the slave drive through the BIOS?
[01:48] <dooglus> BryanJK: ie. ls -l ~/Desktop/halflife.desktop or whatever
[01:48] <BryanJK> dooglus: it works fine, except for that one icon
[01:48] <Jonah> guys if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
[01:48] <BryanJK> okay hold on
[01:48] <zipped20x> i'll try it
[01:49] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it?
[01:49] <[Meta] > This is even worse!
[01:49] <piercy> ok now it says invalid or unsupported exectuable
[01:49] <KFDM> Does anyone in here have experience with getting Pydev working with Eclipse under Ubuntu or do they know of where I might be able to get help ?
[01:49] <sebas_> hidan, I want to install feisty but I am unable to format the hard drive
[01:49] <AaronMT> !chmod > thelostpatrol
[01:49] <[Meta] > Flannel: Now I can't even see most of the admin options
[01:50] <sebas_> I want to keep my Windows partition
[01:50] <BryanJK> dooglus: "ls: /home/bryan/Desktop/css.desktop: No such file or directory"
[01:50] <BryanJK> hmm
[01:50] <sanityx> Man, I hope backports does Pidgin 2.0
[01:50] <sebas_> can anyone help me?
[01:50] <sanityx> They really should, considering its at the same release level as the existing gaim
[01:51] <ncaller> I need to build something which requires zlib.h any idea what package I should install? zlibc ?
[01:51] <sanityx> Thunderbird would be great too.
[01:51] <[Meta] > ;-;
[01:51] <BryanJK> dooglus: (I have the icon on my desktop, i used tab, typed it out, and dragged it with that terminal command)
[01:51] <BryanJK> weird
[01:51] <KFDM> sanityx, it's not too hard to install pidgin yourself
[01:51] <netwkrtot> hi all, can u switch between workspaces using shortcut keys??
[01:51] <piercy> i added he code u gave me but now it says invalid or unsupported executable..
[01:51] <[Meta] > How do I add a user to the admin group?
[01:51] <BryanJK> dooglus: its not big deal though, dont worry
[01:51] <[Meta] > Through recovery mode, that is.
[01:51] <Centaur5> Is it possible for a server to have both Xubuntu and Ubuntu available for a network install with an option to choose which to do using pxeboot?
[01:52] <sebas_> netwrtot: control + alt + right|left row
[01:52] <ncaller> Or is there a way to see what files would be installed before doing an apt-get install <package> ?
[01:52] <wimdows> xtknight - looks like DRI is not enabled anyway...here's the full xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19181/
[01:52] <[Meta] > Help? :(
[01:52] <wimdows> ATI sucks a fat one
[01:52] <Flannel> [Meta] : Recovery mode isn't a GUI, nor was it ever expected to be used as one.  You go into recovery console, type that command, then reboot normally.
[01:52] <Moniker42> hi, i changed the boot splash screen a few weeks ago
[01:52] <Moniker42> but i've gone off it
[01:52] <[Meta] > I did!
[01:52] <netwkrtot> sebas_: great, thanks!
[01:52] <[Meta] > But it screwed it up.
[01:52] <Flannel> [Meta] : then instead of a normal login, you'll get prompted for some stuff to create your first user
[01:52] <Moniker42> how do i change it back to the default? ;)
[01:53] <[Meta] > -.-
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : probably having to do with you not having an oem user, I expect
[01:53] <[Meta] > But I didn't.
[01:53] <[Meta] > Yeah, because I deleted it without knowing.
[01:53] <[Meta] > Ugh.
[01:53] <mike__> evening
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : How much have you done with this install?
[01:53] <ffm> is there a way that I can hide my browser window quickly w/o closing it?
[01:53] <mike__> just me then
[01:53] <[Meta] > Flannel:  what do you mean?
[01:53] <piercy> lol ffm? porn??
[01:53] <AaronMT> bottom left iconj
[01:53] <piercy> erm i kno on macs u can do alt f11
[01:53] <Moniker42> ffm, move it onto another desktop?
[01:53] <Flannel> [Meta] : How much will you lose if you just reinstall?
[01:54] <[Meta] > Absolutely nothing, this is a clean install.
[01:54] <mneptok> move yourself to another desktop
[01:54] <Moniker42> ffm, or have the browser on a different desktop and switch to the one you're supposed to be doing work on :)
[01:54] <[Meta] > But I don't want to do it all over again. >_<
[01:54] <ffm> Moniker42: Not goona work, as Beryl makes my desktops trasmparrent.
[01:54] <[Meta] > Because it takes AGES
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : Suggest doing that then.  Since, I don't know the details about how the oem stuff does stuff.
[01:54] <jnc> mneptok: in Russia, Desktop moves YOU
[01:54] <jnc> sorry.
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : Do a real install, not the oem install.
[01:54] <[Meta] > Text mode?
[01:54] <SlickMcRunfast> How do I run two monitors with an ATI card?  I'm on a laptop.
[01:54] <[Meta] > :x
[01:54] <Flannel> [Meta] : yes.
[01:54] <Moniker42> ffm, well just put a wedge under the door handle or something so your mother doesn't walk in
[01:54] <Moniker42> anyways
[01:54] <piercy> lol
[01:55] <[Meta] > If I get on the other computer, can you help me through the install?
[01:55] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: depends on the driver
[01:55] <Moniker42> grub fix, anyone?
[01:55] <ffm> Moniker42: And, other desktops show what window is in them in the status bard.
[01:55] <mike__> bitchx Pineapples b0rk.uk.quakenet.org
[01:55] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: you must be a mst3k fan ;P
[01:55] <Moniker42> ffm, minimise? :)
[01:55] <Flannel> [Meta] : Then you don't need to deal with this oem stuff.  It's the exact same questions you just answered.  But, sure.
[01:55] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
[01:55] <jnc> "largemcbighuge"
[01:55] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: yes
[01:55] <[Meta] > Okay. :P
[01:55] <kitche> mike__: wrong thing prehaps :)
[01:55] <Flannel> [Meta] : te "textmode" install, installs a GUI system, don't worryabout that
[01:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: would be good to understand what's going on though, eh?
[01:55] <[Meta] > I think I'll go log in to the other computer.
[01:55] <ffm> Moniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
[01:55] <kazol> I cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" in Feisty.
[01:55] <Jonah> hey guys i use ubuntu, does increasing memory help performance much, also how much memory can ubuntu take - also if my machine has pc3200 ram and it's got 1gig, does that mean it has two 512mb dimms or do these dimms not need to be in twos so could it just have 1 dimm of 1gb?? just ordering more memory so don't know whether to order 3x1gb dimms or 4x1gb dimms and take old out...
[01:55] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: its BigMcLargeHuge, my friend goes by that alias
[01:55] <dooglus> BryanJK: does "ls -la ~/Desktop" help?
[01:55] <[Meta] > Flannel: I didn't think it wouldn't. It's just I'm afraid of text installation.
[01:55] <kazol> I've tried both ndiswrapper and the fcutter thing.
[01:56] <sichemist> !xinerama | SlickMcRunfast
[01:56] <ubotu> SlickMcRunfast: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[01:56] <[Meta] > Mmkay. Time to do that then.
[01:56] <SlickMcRunfast> thanks
[01:56] <ffm> Jonah: Ubuntu can use an infinite amount of ram, iirc.
[01:56] <ziggy23> I need help with my display -- resuming after hibernation leaves it blank
[01:56] <ffm> Moniker42: "What is that in your status bar?" (Yes, they called it a status bar)
[01:56] <Flannel> [Meta] : heh, well... Its thesame questions as the GUI install, just... with terminal chraacters instead of GUI characters.  Honest.
[01:56] <snook353> how do i get the update manager to prompt me for an upgrade?
[01:56] <Moniker42> ffm, status bar = taskbar?
[01:56] <vox754> Jonah, really depends on your machine, some motherboard only accept pairs
[01:56] <furrykef> Does the AMD64 build of Ubuntu support 32-bit programs without needing a special chroot for them?
[01:56] <kazol> How do I install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)"??
[01:56] <lbawinowns> Please, can somone tell me how the recycle bin system works? I delete files from ntfs drive but there isno space freed nor does the normal recycle bin get affected
[01:56] <thelostpatrol> i can't delete a file because it says i don't have permissions. how can i delete it? i don't understand
[01:56] <[Meta] > Flannel: I usually do what's easiest. :)
[01:56] <vox754> furrykef, I think not
[01:56] <Moniker42> thelostpatrol, you need root
[01:56] <kazol> It installed perfectly in Dapper, but not in Feisty!
[01:57] <[Meta] > Alrighty.
[01:57] <ffm> Moniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yest.
[01:57] <Moniker42> as seen on the popular tshirt "Got Root?"
[01:57] <usser> Jonah: i got 2gb here, 2x1gb
[01:57] <ffm> Moniker42: In the world of non-computer users (jargon spurting idiots), yes.
[01:57] <Flannel> [Meta] : they're both the same easiness.  Just one's prettier... I guess.
[01:57] <thelostpatrol> Moniker42, how do i get root
[01:57] <lbawinowns> it is a bit urgent
[01:57] <SlickMcRunfast> goodbye everyone remember to ROLLFIZZELBEEF
[01:57] <furrykef> vox754 - is there an easy way to check for sure other than just trying it?
[01:57] <ziggy23> how do I get nvidia drivers
[01:57] <Moniker42> thelostpatrol, buy the tshirt, or you could type your root password when it prompts you
[01:57] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: ah, noted.   okay so there's proprietary closed-source drivers provided by ATI "fglrx", and the open source "ati" driver from the community.   the fglrx driver fakes Xinerama but it actually does not work with Xinerama, and the 'ati' driver also fakes Xinerama but you'll need mergedfb option in xorg.conf turned on
[01:57] <usser> thelostpatrol: u have to chew your way through the rock to get root =)
[01:57] <Moniker42> or prefix the command with "sudo" but make sure you know what you're doing, it asks for the root password because it can break the system
[01:57] <Flannel> Moniker42, thelostpatrol, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.  You use sudo to run the command (rm) in this case.
[01:57] <vox754> furrykef, I think the FAQ/ common question section in the wiki says Ubuntu doesn't support dual architecture
[01:58] <Jonah> usser, so do all dimms need to be paired or can you just put 1gb dimm in?? or does it have to be 2x512's? i'm going upto 4gb i think but do i need 4x1gbs? or just 1x4gb
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: sudo does not ask for the root pasword.
[01:58] <lbawinowns> No1 here got a ntfs drive?
[01:58] <SlickMcRunfast> jnc: so add one line?
[01:58] <thelostpatrol> Flannel, what's the deletion command?
[01:58] <Moniker42> Agrajag, it asks for the superuser's password?
[01:58] <Flannel> Jonah: Depends on your MoBo.  You'll have to consult it's docuemntation
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no.
[01:58] <ffm> Flannel: You can also say !root
[01:58] <Flannel> thelostpatrol: rm (ReMove)
[01:58] <Moniker42> Agrajag, root and user password are the same for me...
[01:58] <ffm> thelostpatrol: rm
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: it asks for the password of whoever ran sudo.
[01:58] <Moniker42> !root | thelostpatrol
[01:58] <ubotu> thelostpatrol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <thelostpatrol> Flannel, ffm, thank you
[01:58] <Flannel> Moniker42: no they're not.  Unless you've set your root password.
[01:58] <ziggy23> !nvidia
[01:58] <Agrajag> Moniker42: You added a root password?
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:59] <sanityx> KFDM, I know its not but I don't like to go outside the packaging system. Makes it easier to maintain a clean system.
[01:59] <Moniker42> Agrajag, y'what?
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: sure u can, before that i had 1 stick 1gb, it is however desirable that your sticks are of the same size and models with similar timings etc
[01:59] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: I won't touch the proprietary drivers myself, so I don't know... the easy click and point way would be proprietary drivers as noted by ziggy23
[01:59] <Agrajag> Moniker42: Unless you specifically added a root password, root does not have a password.
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: if u gonna put more than one
[01:59] <KFDM> sanityx, I use the packaging system for most things but some things I don't mind building myself
[01:59] <dooglus> http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb <-- pidgin 2.0 for feisty
[01:59] <[Meta] > It came up with the oem one, Flannel. O.o
[01:59] <Moniker42> Agrajag, so you could just boot ubuntu and login as root without a password?
[01:59] <Alonea> !Envy
[01:59] <jnc> SlickMcRunfast: the open source 'ati' drivers require a bit of tweaking if they even work at all
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Moniker42> which isn't the case
[01:59] <Agrajag> Moniker42: When you run sudo, sudo asks for your password and checks to see if you have permission to gain root privileges.
[01:59] <usser> Jonah: if u comp supports it i'd say go with 2gb+2gb
[01:59] <kazol> I cannot install a "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)" card in Feisty.
[02:00] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no. no password means you cannot log in as root.
[02:00] <furrykef> I had read somewhere, though, that Edgy Eft might have biarch support for x86 and AMD64, and it's been one release after Edgy Eft...
[02:00] <Jonah> usser, so if i already have 1gb in there and if it's just 1stick, is it still better to order 4 sticks and take old out when going upto 4gb?
[02:00] <Alonea> i thought the bot had a thing on envy...at least it used it...
[02:00] <kazol> It's driving me nuts. I actually hate Ubuntu now.
[02:00] <Flannel> [Meta] : what?  You have the alternate CD, there's like... five options.  Three of them are installers.  Textmode (regular), OEM, and Server.
[02:00] <Moniker42> Agrajag, okay..
[02:00] <quio> Hello.  I am new to ubuntu.  I had the older version and had the bit torrent gui client.  The new version says it is installed but I cannot seem to find the application.  Any advice?
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, Yup I agree. And if it was life and death I'd build it or install a 3rd party .deb
[02:00] <KFDM> I've never had good luck with my broadcom card
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, But its really not.
[02:00] <insom> I've been assimilated!
[02:00] <Moniker42> i know what already, i'm not the one with the problem with root here ;)
[02:00] <[Meta] > Yes Flannel
[02:00] <sanityx> KFDM, I have broadcom too. ndiswrapper works like a charm.
[02:00] <kazol> I tried using ndiswrapper and fwcutter
[02:00] <lbawinowns> wtf is this ntfs-3g writing thing? How do I delete files?????
[02:00] <[Meta] > And I pressed enter on the text mode one
[02:00] <imperfect-> kmfdm.doingitagain.
[02:00] <[Meta] > And it appeared with the freaking oem
[02:00] <kazol> I still cannot install my wifi card in Feisty.
[02:00] <sanityx> kazol, ubuntu1501.blogspot.com has a good broadcom ndiswrapper guide.
[02:00] <Agrajag> Moniker42: no, but you seem to have the wrong idea of how sudo works. I'm just lettin' you know
[02:00] <Flannel> [Meta] : eh?  No.  They look the same, they aren't the same though.
[02:01] <KFDM> I haven't tried ndiswrapper with Fiesty yet
[02:01] <sanityx> Its for the inspiron 1501 laptop, but should apply to any card kazol
[02:01] <Moniker42> kazol, if it's a brand new card, take it back and get a compatible one :)
[02:01] <sanityx> sanityx, any broadcom card that is
[02:01] <KFDM> Just haven't bothered messing with wireless yet
[02:01] <sanityx> KFDM, The new network manager is awesome.
[02:01] <jnc> furrykef: 32-bit compatible libraries and a ld.so hack
[02:01] <Moniker42> wireless is made even more of a pain on ubuntu than windows because many of the drivers aren't supported
[02:01] <insom> should cover any broadcom from my understanding
[02:01] <Flannel> quio: If you just get a trrent, and then double click it, it'll run
[02:01] <Hamm_laptop> anyone have suggestions for a good book for linux noobs,  one that covers the terminal extensively?
[02:01] <KFDM> maybe I should try it later
[02:01] <Moniker42> at least ubuntu has a decent network manager...
[02:01] <thelostpatrol> okay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
[02:01] <Flannel> !cli | Hamm_laptop
[02:01] <ubotu> Hamm_laptop: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:01] <KFDM> Trying to get pydev working with eclipse at the moment
[02:01] <k00giez> hello
[02:01] <[Meta] > Flannel: Then what's the difference? O_O
[02:02] <insom> that's because the manufacturer refuses to release the source
[02:02] <k00giez> how do i get root access with ubuntu?
[02:02] <Jonah> usser, well 2gb+2gb seems to cost more than 4x1gb....
[02:02] <gluttony> i just installed baryl, now my large windows wont minimize
[02:02] <dooglus> Agrajag: the root account is locked by default.
[02:02] <Agrajag> !sudo > k00giez
[02:02] <micahcowan> Hamm_laptop, http://www.unixmages.com/
[02:02] <Dave_is_sexy> guys i have a BIG problem, which I have diagnosed as due to "segmentation error".
[02:02] <Agrajag> dooglus: Yes, I explained that.
[02:02] <jnc> Jonah: basic desktop and web browser = 1GB per CPU core minimum
[02:02] <KFDM> k00giez, what do you need root for ?
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> gluttony, go to #beryl for help with that addon
[02:02] <Flannel> [Meta] : the OEM one is meant for OEM mfcs, so they can delay the initial user creation (username, timezone, language, etc) for the end user to setup after they buy
[02:02] <micahcowan> Hamm_laptop, the link I gave includes a book that is available for free online, or can be purchased via lulu.
[02:02] <k00giez> KFDM: i need root for vmware to get access to local disks
 Oh.  OK Thanks.
[02:02] <usser> Jonah: mmm yea i'd say it doesnt make sense to leave the old stick just go 4x1gb from the same manufacturer, same model
[02:02] <[Meta] > Flannel: I don't understand?
[02:02] <thelostpatrol> okay i got the files i need deleted but now how do i delete a directory that is locked?
[02:02] <k00giez> i really need a root access
[02:02] <insom> sudo vmware
[02:02] <KFDM> If it's a single command then sudo vmware
[02:02] <jnc> k00giez: 'sudo -s -H'
[02:02] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, sounds like a bug. What program produced the segmentation error?
[02:03] <Jonah> usser, ok i would say that you're totally awesome dude, i'll put my order in thanks a lot
[02:03] <k00giez> jnc: do you know how to activate root login?
[02:03] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,   sudo rm -d  /path/todir
[02:03] <dooglus> Agrajag: ok, sorry.  I thought you were saying that the root account had a null password.
[02:03] <BryanJK> dooglus: what do you do when you delete the application tray?
[02:03] <jnc> k00giez: root exists, it just has been disabled for password login
[02:03] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, thanks
[02:03] <KFDM> you can do sudo su to get root I guess
[02:03] <insom> man its been a long time since I've been on linux, good to be home
[02:03] <dooglus> BryanJK: I add it back to the panel again...
[02:03] <Flannel> [Meta] : During a normal install, you'll setup your first user, tell the computer what timezone you're in, and stuff like that.  the OEM thing doesn't do that.  So the manufactrer of a PC can let the end user (the person who bought the computer) setup their own timezone and stuff.  But still have a full OS installed when they sell it.
[02:03] <Agrajag> KFDM: sudo -i
[02:03] <[Meta] > Oh
[02:03] <KFDM> but I don't know why you would need to run completely in root
[02:03] <insom> I wouldn't suggest it though
[02:03] <jnc> k00giez: 'sudo -s -H' will get you a root prompt
[02:03] <Dave_is_sexy> i can't open text files, or run scripts. so i tried to start mousepad from terminal. it says "segmentation error". I think it's due to a power cut
[02:04] <Flannel> k00giez: You don't need/want to activate the root account
[02:04] <BryanJK> Its not in the add to panel selection
[02:04] <kazol> What package is the "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4"? There are multiple entries in synaptec.
[02:04] <k00giez> jnc: do you know how to get root login in gdm to be activated?
[02:04] <[Meta] > Flannel: Do I use LVM or do I just wipe and install?
[02:04] <dooglus> BryanJK: right-click in the panel, 'add to panel', scroll to the bottom, and 'notification area'
[02:04] <insom> I agree with flannel
[02:04] <jnc> k00giez: wtf don't do that
[02:04] <Dave_is_sexy>  micahcowan: ^^^^^
[02:04] <jnc> :/
[02:04] <k00giez> Flannel: i need to
[02:04] <BryanJK> dooglus: OH, that... thanks
[02:04] <Agrajag> k00giez: why?
[02:04] <Flannel> k00giez: no you dont
[02:04] <Flannel> [Meta] : you don't need LVM, just wipe and install
[02:04] <jnc> no, you don't k00giez
[02:04] <k00giez> so that i can run vmware with partition access
[02:04] <[Meta] > Okies.
[02:04] <insom> k00giez: just sudo whatever needs root access
[02:04] <Agrajag> k00giez: wtf don't do that, either
[02:04] <ward_> the header files some software needs when you compile it, what map do they need to be?
[02:04] <kazol> What package is NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4??? This is driving me nuts here.
[02:04] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, didn't work
[02:05] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, what is mousepad, and how did you try to start it?
[02:05] <[Meta] > I only needed root when I was mounting Windows.
[02:05] <jnc> k00giez: you "can" do that, but the reason people are all telling you not to is because running X as root is bad for the planet earth
[02:05] <Agrajag> k00giez: share the disk you want vmware to have access to. If you use a physical disk in vmware, you can do major damage if you mess up
[02:05] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,  did you get any messages ?
[02:05] <lbawinowns> Hello. Please, does anybody succesfully removed files from ntfs drive? When I do no space get freed
[02:05] <panth3r> ?
[02:05] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: ....so i need 'scandsk'. by terminal it's a text editor. emacs is still fine. I'm not sure the ap is relevant, isn't it a HDD integrity problem?
[02:05] <insom> jnc: I heard it kills kittens
[02:05] <Hamm_laptop> Thanks guys
[02:05] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, this: rm: cannot remove `/home/mike/Desktop/avant/doc-pak/': Is a directory
[02:05] <dooglus> k00giez: if you insist: sudo sed -i 's/^AllowRoot=false/AllowRoot=true/' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:06] <jnc> insom: limecat confirms.
[02:06] <[Meta] > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[02:06] <[Meta] > NOT THE KITTENS
[02:06] <k00giez> ok thanks
[02:06] <dooglus> k00giez: it's a bad idea though
[02:06] <Pelo> theconartist,   "rm -d"    -d is important
[02:06] <aoirthoir> whats wrong with the kittens?
[02:06] <insom> nothing
[02:06] <teenbeat2007> ok mayby a dumb question in wich way is 7.04 better then 6.10
[02:06] <Flannel> k00giez: don't come back here expecting us to fix stuff when you break it though
[02:06] <jnc> lbawinowns: there's a few common ways to try, are you referring to the write support in vanilla kernel ntfs driver?
[02:06] <insom> aoirthoir: running gnome as root kills kittens
[02:06] <arch_> how do I get a link to my home folder on my gnome desktop?
[02:06] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
[02:06] <aoirthoir> teenbeat2007, easier install of codecs:)
[02:07] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, i did that
[02:07] <insom> Flannel: you know we'll try to fix it anyway though
[02:07] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: er, sorry.  wrong link
[02:07] <lbawinowns> jnc: I dont know what kernel is, but all I want is to delete files from my ntfs drive. It is like no space is getting freed
[02:07] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, I'm having a little trouble understanding what you did that caused you to encounter "segmentation error". The term /could/ mean HDD integrity problems... but the term is more frequently associated with badly written program code that attempts to access memory that doesn't belong to it.
[02:07] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704tour
[02:07] <insom> Flannel: after pointing and laughing of course
[02:07] <dooglus> arch_: funny you should ask that.  I was wondering how to get rid of the link to my home dir from my desktop, and why it's there at all - I never asked for it, it just appeared one day
[02:07] <eegore> I am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
[02:07] <jnc> lbawinowns: oh.   ntfs access is typically read-only
[02:08] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,  the d option is suppose to delete the folders,   try gksu nautilus and try do to it in gui
[02:08] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: Hmm. I cut the power cos it had been frozen for over 10 minutes
[02:08] <dooglus> arch_: I think you would run "ln -s .. ~/Desktop" to add the link
[02:08] <lbawinowns> jnc : i got ntfs-3g
[02:08] <insom> [Meta] : what're you installing?
[02:08] <Flannel> [Meta] : yeah, but youve learnt a lot about it ;)
[02:08] <arch_> dooglus: I remember getting directions in this channel as to how to remove it, and I did so, and now I've decided I want it back
[02:08] <[Meta] > I'm reinstalling Ubuntu on my laptop, insom
[02:08] <erpo> dooglus, arch_: To edit which icons appear on your desktop, run gconf-editor, and navigate to /apps/nautilus.
[02:08] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, what were you or your computer doing when it froze? And then when did you see the "segmentation error"?
[02:08] <insom> [Meta] : how come it took 3 rounds?
[02:09] <dooglus> arch_: my bad.  that doesn't work.  do what erpo said
[02:09] <lbawinowns> jnc: it works sometimes, but I must do the shift-delete
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: uh.   oh god, you're using the GUI
[02:09] <[Meta] > Because the first time, I couldn't get into it (wasn't watching instructions for usernames) and second time I killed the oem user.
[02:09] <Flannel> insom: after he installed, he proceeded to break it.  We all do it.  I think my first time I installed at least halfdozen times
[02:09] <lbawinowns> jnc: what is GUI?
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: "recycle bin" or whatever it's called
[02:09] <teenbeat2007> is the ati driver part improved
[02:09] <jnc> lbawinowns: empty that
[02:10] <Elda> GUI is Graphical User Interphace
[02:10] <eegore> I am using feisty 64 Kubuntu and I cannot seem to get the mic to work in team speak
[02:10] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: i wasn't doing anything interesting. clicked an svg that didn't open, so clicked it loads more and a million inkscapes opened up. then it froze
[02:10] <Elda> *Interface
[02:10] <glick> heh what a jerk reiser
[02:10] <Flannel> [Meta] : is there a reason you're not using the Desktop CD?  It installs much faster (of course, it's less flexible)
[02:10] <BryanJK> ibawinowns: Graphical User interface
[02:10] <insom> Flannel: really? this installed easier than a prom date
[02:10] <lbawinowns> jnc: yea, I thought so to, but it's empty
[02:10] <[Meta] > Flannel: My first time I did it first time over. :( (I'm female btw. :P)
[02:10] <eegore> is that an issue with alsa?
[02:10] <Pelo> thelostpatrol,   rm -f /path
[02:10] <kazol> Why the hell do I get this message when installing my wifi card: "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."??
[02:10] <lbawinowns> jnc: at least the one to down right
[02:10] <[Meta] > Flannel: Because the LiveCD always freezes.
[02:10] <insom> [Meta] : what does that have to do with anything?
[02:10] <jnc> lbawinowns: sorry mate, i'm one of those glow-in-the-dark cave crawling hackers that operates by typing in all commands, I shun use of the mouse :P
[02:10] <teenbeat2007> flannel: what about the ati drivers and do i do upgrade in ubuntu or a total clean isnatll
[02:10] <Elda> kazol, Im not sure, but it seems that it would be that its not locating your driver? :>
[02:10] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, okay.   That happens.  I don't bother with ti anymore, since I know the alt.CD works best.
[02:10] <jnc> lbawinowns: welcome to the fray! :)
[02:11] <[Meta] > insom: Yeah, but Flannel  called me a he. :P
[02:11] <arch_> erpo: thank you much
[02:11] <insom> [Meta] : more should use linux imo though
[02:11] <lbawinowns> jnc: ^^ aha ok, I'm new to ubuntu :D, getting scared of the word kernel
[02:11] <spasticteapot> Hello all!
[02:11] <insom> [Meta] : ohhh ok excuse me
[02:11] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, ok i'll try that
[02:11] <kazol> Elda: I uninstalled all versions of network manager. Maybe I shouldn't have?
[02:11] <Flannel> [Meta] : I'm sorry if you took offense to it.  It's just a good choice for default gender.  Since, I'd rather that then neuter everyone
[02:11] <[Meta] > Flannel: I got the LiveCD from an IT convention thing.
[02:11] <Elda> No idea :>  Im rather new to linux myself :>
[02:12] <spasticteapot> Okay, what's going on know?
[02:12] <jnc> lbawinowns: kernel means "core" or "central group of functionality",  most computer uses of the word kernel refer to a bit of functionality that all other computer software integrates with
[02:12] <lbawinowns> jnc: anyway, can you hack with the terminal to see where all those file I delted went? It's no in the recycle vin :-/
[02:12] <spasticteapot> I have repeatedly messed up my Ubuntu installs, so I do know how to fix them.
[02:12] <[Meta] > And I installed it first time back in January. Then for some reason went back to Windows.
[02:12] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: they'll update as you upgrade.  That's the beauty of package management
[02:12] <insom> Flannel: typically in a linux chat room its a safe assumption
[02:12] <Madpilot> spasticteapot, best way to learn something is to break it first, I find :)
[02:12] <[Meta] > Got a virus the night before last and decided I'd had enough of Windows.
[02:12] <Elda> Linux is not limited to males :>
[02:12] <sethk> lbawinowns, you can use the find command.   You can use locate, if you've rebuilt the index since the files were moved
[02:12] <lbawinowns> jnc: it's like if my partition has it's own recycle bin
[02:12] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: desktop, but wouldn't let me open a script i wanted to run from cdrom. nor any other file. then i tried as root, and files on the hard disk and other media. nothing. then terminal told be "segmentation error" when i typed "mousepad"
[02:12] <usser> bah insom +1 =)
[02:12] <insom> [Meta] : I'm doing the dual boot thing
[02:13] <Flannel> [Meta] : well, welcome back ;)
[02:13] <[Meta] > I was dual booting before.
[02:13] <spasticteapot> Madpilot: Actually, the best way is to start with something broken, and fix it.
[02:13] <sebas_> when trying to install feisty, I get an error telling that the partition couldn't be formatted to ext3. Should I repair the filesystem?
[02:13] <thelostpatrol> Pelo, thank you, that worked
[02:13] <spasticteapot> Elda: Linux chicks are hawt.
[02:13] <[Meta] > Thankyou Flannel. *curtsey*
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> flannel: im a bit scared of updating, last time i did with feisty my system totaly crashed and had to reinstall everything
[02:13] <insom> usser: female also?
[02:13] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, after it said "segmentation error", did you still have a shell prompt?
[02:13] <Elda> lol
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> " times
[02:13] <teenbeat2007> 3 times
[02:13] <Flannel> teenbeat2007: Do you use Automatix? or any other third party things?
[02:14] <Elda> Hair getting turned on, hmm :>
[02:14] <teenbeat2007> no just the standart tool
[02:14] <lbawinowns> lol at you nerds -.- ...
[02:14] <Elda> Pelo being hair in spanish xD
[02:14] <kazol> I don't know what to do now. I get this message: The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[02:14] <usser> insom: nah i just love those observations
[02:14] <jnc> lbawinowns: I don't know.   on my system, which is not Ubuntu, there's a Gnome based "recycle bin" in ~/.Trash   (Places | Home Folder,  press control key + 'l', type in ~/.Trash)
[02:14] <insom> [Meta] : good idea
[02:14] <dooglus> fjleon: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
[02:14] <spasticteapot> Anyone know if Fringejacket has been here lately?
[02:14] <insom> usser: well 1200 users and one female has spoken up
[02:14] <insom> and had the... uterus to speak up.
[02:15] <spasticteapot> http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
[02:15] <fjleon> dooglus, how would you remove gaim (ubuntu-desktop and nautilus complain)
[02:15] <[Meta] > insom: AHAHAHAHAHA
[02:15] <Elda> Oh so now Im not female?
[02:15] <spasticteapot> [Meta] : There is nothing scarier than a mad scientist of EITHER gender when pissed.
[02:15] <Elda> Ass hat >.>
[02:15] <insom> 2 females!
[02:15] <[Meta] > :D
[02:15] <dooglus> fjleon: I wouldn't bother
[02:15] <insom> we
[02:15] <Flannel> !offtopic
[02:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:15] <[Meta] > xD
[02:15] <lbawinowns> lol
[02:15] <insom> we're up to .001 percent
[02:15] <spasticteapot> Last I've checked, 50kv is not going to bias on gender.
[02:15] <[Meta] > Woops.
[02:15] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: yes
[02:16] <dooglus> fjleon: alternatively, I could make the package be called 'gaim' instead of pidgin - that might keep dpkg happy
[02:16] <jnc> insom: there's a lot of moms who use computers and write cobol... 40+
[02:16] <kazol> I hate Feisty. Ever since I "upgraded" from Dapper all my programs and settings were lost. Now I can't install my f*ckig wifi card.
[02:16] <jnc> then there's a gap
[02:16] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, look for FringeLicious. Not currently in this chan.
[02:16] <spasticteapot> Also, check out Motho ke motho ka botho's guide to speeding up linux. http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/04/22/howto-set-up-feisty-for-speed/
[02:16] <jnc> and now the younger CS majors.
[02:16] <lbawinowns> kazol - don't you upgrade from edgy?
[02:16] <dooglus> spasticteapot: last time I saw FringeJacket: #ubuntu-2007-02-12.log:16:10 -!- FringeJacket<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Nick collision from services.]
[02:16] <spasticteapot> jnc: I personally go for the Linux-using chixxors closer to my own age.
[02:16] <insom> Elda: I mean no offense of course I'd love to see the majority of people switch to linux
[02:16] <dooglus> spasticteapot: ie. 2 months ago
[02:17] <kazol> lbawinowns: I upgraded to Edgy, and I lost everything.
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: Won't happen. :(
[02:17] <micahcowan> Dave_is_sexy, it sounds like a bug in mousepad. Had mousepad been working before the reboot? And, did it come up with some sort of bug reporting tool after you got that message?
[02:17] <insom> then I could play starcraft natively
[02:17] <spasticteapot> dooglus: She had a connection on a cheap CNC thingamajig, and I was hoping to take her up on it.
[02:17] <lbawinowns> kazol - why ur flaming feisty ^^ ?
[02:17] <jnc> spasticteapot: I've had my "share" of female friends that genuinely liked computers, I know well enough to stay the hell away
[02:17] <spasticteapot> And then my life went to heck.
[02:17] <insom> [Meta] : well it could...
[02:17] <spasticteapot> jnc: Wha?
[02:17] <jnc> spasticteapot: Freak-y
[02:17] <glick> for some reason in feisty restart doesnt work correctly
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: But then again, we all know who the smarter users are. The ones that use Linux.
[02:17] <Elda> lol Ive tried switching to linux twice before, hopefully third time will be the charm
[02:17] <glick> however when i choose shutdown it correctly shutsdown the machine
[02:17] <insom> [Meta] : granted
[02:17] <Peteki_> hey?
[02:17] <Elda> Though atm, Im somewhat ignorant of all this linux stuff xD
[02:17] <spasticteapot> Maybe it's just me, but being able to ask your GF how to work ifconfig is nifty.
[02:17] <Dave_is_sexy> micahcowan: no mousepad was fine. i tried to reinstall it, but it wouldn't let me.
[02:17] <[Meta] > insom: Not while they install Windows on all new PCs.
[02:18] <insom> Elda: welcome then!
[02:18] <Elda> ty xD
[02:18] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, I think you're wandering offtopic...
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Elda: only 3x?..lol.. id love to share my trying linux experience, but it would take to long tt ype out..lol
[02:18] <Dave_is_sexy> how do i run a HDD check?
[02:18] <insom> [Meta] : dell is offering ubuntu
[02:18] <kazol> lbawinowns: I can't install a wifi card, even though others said it had more multivendor support. And it's a very common one, and even has a separate installation procedure in the Feisty summary wiki.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> insom: are they actually offering it now?
[02:18] <spasticteapot> micahcowan: Eh, sorry....thought I was in ##trangle.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> its been rmored
[02:18] <jnc> insom: show me a laptop for sale with Ubuntu preinstalled on it
[02:18] <Flannel> Dave_is_sexy: `sudo touch /forcefsk` and then reboot
[02:18] <[Meta] > insom: I have a personal vendetta against Dells. :)
[02:18] <usser> insom: they do now??
[02:18] <Elda> IndyGunFreak, its my third time trying it again, as I got fed up with Vista and the stupid driver issues -_-
[02:18] <usser> we're doomed then
[02:18] <Flannel> Dave_is_sexy: er, sorry.  `sudo touch /forcefsck`
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Elda: understood.
[02:18] <jnc> insom: i'm not kidding, I am in the market for one and can't find it on Dell's site
[02:18] <insom> IndyGunFreak: supposedly starting in september
[02:18] <Elda> IndyGunFreak,  well thrd time installing lol
[02:18] <micahcowan> spasticteapot, lol! :D
[02:18] <lbawinowns> Elda: yea, be careful, my linux crashed today because I didnt know ubuntu don't cares that my drive is out of memory -.-
[02:18] <Elda> Ive used it more that 3 times
[02:19] <jnc> Elda: ignorant how?
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> insom: i don't think they are actually installing Ubuntu on systems yet, it seems to be in the test phase
[02:19] <glick> their not offering it yet
[02:19] <Elda> LoL there are still MANY things I dont quite know about
[02:19] <insom> IndyGunFreak: I hope it passes
[02:19] <Elda> to do with linux
[02:19] <Flannel> Guys, this is a lovely conversation, but it needs to be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:19] <Elda> ooh, sorry :>
[02:19] <insom> Elda: you can do anything with linux
[02:19] <Elda> going there
[02:19] <ctothej> in gconf, if I want to signify the space bar, what should i type in (keyboard shortcuts)
[02:19] <micahcowan> Flannel, thanks, I was looking through fsck(8) for that :)
[02:19] <insom> except play starcraft natively
[02:19] <lbawinowns> insom : can you have 37 dekstops at once? huh? huh?
[02:20] <Cryoniq> Anyone know of a install of Pidgin for Ubuntu? Or is it the rpm and source compile that is available at the moment?
[02:20] <insom> lbawinowns: yes
[02:20] <k00giez> !vmware