[12:01] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[12:01] <Warbo> crunch: X is the graphics server. By "bare X" I meant getting the graphics server up without any kind of interface, desktop or anything. Just X. If you can get that going at all then there may be hope
[12:01] <crunch> do you think damn small linux would work instead?
[12:01] <sethk> crunch, it is already working.
[12:01] <jvai> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[12:01] <livingdaylight> nekostar: did i understand you right?
[12:01] <Warbo> crunch: DSL just uses Fluxbox, which Ubuntu can use as well
[12:01] <sethk> crunch, damn small linux will give you the same capabilities you already have
[12:02] <Warbo> sethk: Actually, less :)
[12:02] <Thunderpants> well said sethk
[12:02] <Bassetts> i need help asap, i just started my pc and it says x is not working and gdm cant be starter
[12:02] <crunch> damnit
[12:02] <lamego> Bassetts, read the topic
[12:02] <chalcedny> i'll try again... my HP all-in-one printer is printing every other line or so with the Linux drivers.. <sigh>
[12:02] <crunch> so what do i do
[12:02] <Bassetts> lamego: cant see it in irssi
[12:02] <Thunderpants> give it to charity crunch
[12:03] <mwe> Bassetts: type /topic
[12:03] <Warbo> I felt quite offended by DSL including Firefox. Not only does it seem to go against the idea of eliminating bloat (they already have DillO), but it doesn't work when I try it :)
[12:03] <avu> bassetts: /topic
[12:03] <lamego> Bassetts, type /topic
[12:03] <Bassetts> thanks
[12:03] <avu> :)
[12:03] <crunch> haha no way
[12:03] <crunch> they wouldn't want it
[12:03] <jvai> http://www.nubuntu.org/
[12:03] <Thunderpants> what use is it
[12:03] <Flannel> janbanan: yeah, that'sa good idea.
[12:03] <Bassetts> lamego: how do i restart my pc from the terminal?
[12:03] <lamego> Bassetts, you dont need to restart your prc
[12:03] <jbroome> !xorgbug
[12:03] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[12:04] <lamego> Bassetts, have you applied the fix ?
[12:04] <crunch> so what is my best option if i want a gui interface os then
[12:04] <chalcedny> Warbo, the Mozilla people have their support on some small and distant irc net.
[12:04] <Warbo> LiveCD takes more resources than installed, would crunch be better off installing from a different PC then swapping the drive back?
[12:04] <crunch> windows 95 or summint
[12:04] <Bassetts> lamego:no, i dont know how to read the webpage from terminal
[12:04] <lupine> lynx. or links.
[12:04] <Bassetts> i have i686
[12:04] <chalcedny> crunch, download the live cd of ubuntu ;)
[12:04] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:04] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:04] <jvai> will dapper run fastr w/ fluxbox?
[12:04] <eternalswd> I'm having a problem in xampp.  Does anyone know of a good channel or resource for getting help, the xampp irc channel is basically empty.
[12:04] <crunch> i have the live one
[12:04] <Bassetts> lupine: how do i change to a second terminal??
[12:05] <Warbo> I prefer lynx from terminal, as links doesn't let me access SSL (which help.ubuntu.com uses)
[12:05] <jaysef> please does anyone use tor ?
[12:05] <graveson> what can i use to convert and mp4 file to avi
[12:05] <chalcedny> crunch, what's it doing with that ?
[12:05] <VictorI_> which is the newest ubuntu release?
[12:05] <VictorI_> dapper?
[12:05] <jbroome> y
[12:05] <Flannel> VictorI_: right
[12:05] <Warbo> !release
[12:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[12:05] <eternalswd> graveson, for what purpose do you need to do so?
[12:06] <hangfire> victor- edgy is the beta release
[12:06] <chalcedny> graveson, you could look at Audacity maybe
[12:06] <VictorI_> which kernel does dapper ship with
[12:06] <graveson> i have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?
[12:06] <Warbo> Remeber: "beta" is NOT pronounced "better" :)
[12:06] <VictorI_> i am currently having issues with the debian-installer on a rackpoint eepro100 nic card, going to give ubuntu a try
[12:06] <crunch> im running my live 5.04 now and ill get back to you when it loads up
[12:06] <VictorI_> rack mount*
[12:06] <graveson> eternalswd: i have an mpeg-4 file and eventhough my dvd recorder supports mp4 files i cannot play it ?
[12:07] <avu> victori_: 2.6.15
[12:07] <jvai> lol @ warbo
[12:07] <eternalswd> graveson, your best bet would be mencoder ( it comes with mplayer )
[12:07] <verus_> hi all. i updated my ubuntu today and it only downloaded and installed one package (something with Xserver) now my X does not start up correctly and the error log is not usefull at all. anybody an idea, what could have gone wrong?
[12:07] <Bassetts> how can i open a second terminal window??
[12:07] <agt> What do I do if my xserver-xorg candidate shows 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 instead of what ubotu says?
[12:07] <lamego> verus_, /topic
[12:07] <chalcedny> verus_, type /topic
[12:07] <avu> verus_: check out the topic :)
[12:07] <verus_> and of course how i could step back and redo the update of that package ...
[12:07] <VictorI_> in your opinion should I go with edgy or dapper?
[12:07] <eternalswd> graveson, just make sure you get all of the codecs
[12:08] <Warbo> graveson: Mencoder gives the most power. VLC can stream into a file, which might be good for those who do not have 5 years to search through mencoder's man page
[12:08] <VictorI_> how close is edgy to release?
[12:08] <avu> agt: it's xserver-xorg-core
[12:08] <Flannel> VictorI_: not very
[12:08] <verus_> thanks
[12:08] <eternalswd> VictorI_, stick with dapper
[12:08] <VictorI_> thanks
[12:08] <agt> avu: Ah, more sense now... ;)
[12:08] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[12:09] <graveson> eternalswd: it can play on my ubuntu box,i am copying it to dvd - playing it on my dvd recorder is where i am haiving issues
[12:09] <MintyXP> Warbo both 32 and 64 'see' the hda5 sawp, many many thanks
[12:09] <newbuntie> what happened with the xorg update?
[12:09] <peanut7836> when trying to install any package iget the following error: FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[12:09] <Bassetts> what version should i see for the xserver fix?
[12:09] <eternalswd> graveson, mencoder will convert it to whatever format you want using whatever codecs you want
[12:09] <newbuntie> not sure if I can trust updates now...it was a major waste of time
[12:09] <avu> bassetts: ..ubuntu10.4
[12:09] <Warbo> MintyXP: No problem (except you seem to have turned to the dark side...)
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgfix
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <avu> bassetts: (ubuntu10.3 was the evil one :))
[12:10] <chalcedny> JupiterDuo why are you dcc sending that?
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgbuffix
[12:10] <Bassetts> avu: how do i open another terminal so i dont have to exit irssi?
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgbuffix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[12:10] <nalioth> chalcedny: they've already been k-lined
[12:10] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:10] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:10] <MintyXP> warbo this my game computer
[12:10] <avu> bassetts: you can open another tab with ctrl+shift+t
[12:10] <Bassetts> avu: doesnt work
[12:10] <chalcedny> nalioth, yup nice :)
[12:11] <avu> bassetts: oh, you're not taling about gnome-terminal, sorry
[12:11] <MintyXP> linux is great but not for real games
[12:11] <eternalswd> graveson, you should even be able to change directly to dvd format from mp4
[12:11] <JupiterDuo> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[12:11] <mike930> is there a way to convert mpeg to mp4 and wmv to mp4
[12:11] <Warbo> MintyXP: I used to dual boot XP and Fedora 3. That was until XP got BSOD when trying to do anything 3D, so I decided to go into Linux at the deep end :)
[12:11] <avu> bassetts: you can switch with ctrl+alt+f(1-6)
[12:11] <chalcedny> MintyXP, tell that to my son...
[12:11] <cica> hi guys
[12:11] <BAsche> hello there
[12:11] <eternalswd> mike930, mencoder
[12:11] <Warbo> Mind you, my brother has so many consoles that I don't need Windows at all
[12:11] <chalcedny> Jupiter Duo is back/
[12:12] <cica> not a technical question all but does anyone know how Xubuntu is pronounced?
[12:12] <mike930> thanks
[12:12] <Warbo> cica: I think "zooboontoo"
[12:12] <crunch> god, the live cd is still loading up
[12:12] <jvai> x(Z)ubuntu
[12:12] <MintyXP> I really love linux or at leasdt since dapper has come out but for heavy games I still need my XP (which isnt to bad really)
[12:12] <kallei> where is the gnome panel settings stored?
[12:12] <MintyXP> BUT i prefer linux
[12:12] <BAsche> after disabling virtual resolution in xorg.conf kdm keeps that resolution. both xorg.conf and kdm.config are clean.
[12:13] <cica> what about kubuntu?
[12:13] <Warbo> kallei: ~/.gnome2 somewhere (maybe try gconf-editor)
[12:13] <jvai> k(ool)ubuntu.. lol
[12:13] <peanutb> when trying to installany package i get this message: FATAL -> Failed to fork
[12:13] <cica> would it be koo-bun-too?
[12:14] <Volvo> hi
[12:14] <eternalswd> kallei: i think it's in ~/.gnome2/apps/panel
[12:14] <mooseman447> hey
[12:14] <Volvo> how to configure my screen resolution, i think its locked
[12:14] <mooseman447> what happened to xserveer?
[12:14] <Warbo> mooseman447: /topic
[12:14] <MintyXP> remind me please the commande line to gedit my grub file
[12:14] <avu> mintyxp: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:14] <Flannel> MintyXP: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:15] <Volvo> i cannot change my screen resolution, its locked at 640x480 60 hz
[12:15] <BAsche> Volvo: login as root and edit you xorg.conf for example using pico
[12:15] <Bassetts> my candidate version is right, just restart now?
[12:15] <StephenL> Is there not a gui interface to control your sreen resolution/monitors, etc?  I see the Screen Resulotion setting, but is there something more advanced for configuring dual monitors, etc?
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: after upgrading, yes
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu??
[12:15] <Flannel> !tell Volvo about fixres
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu: sudo apt-get update??
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: (not the candidate but the installed version has to be right)
[12:15] <avu> bassetts: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:15] <Bassetts> avu: ahh
[12:15] <Warbo> StephenL: The screen resolution tool is really pathetic. The only way to get stuff done seems to be through the terminal :(
[12:16] <BAsche> anybody into kdm?
[12:16] <StephenL> Warbo:  That's what I thought.  I was just hoping I was overlooking something.
[12:16] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:16] <Volvo> thanks basche
[12:16] <avu> basche: #kubuntu might be of more help there
[12:17] <Bassetts> avu: how can i restart from terminal?
[12:17] <sk1dge> can any1 help me get my computer to make sounds? :)
[12:17] <crunch> OK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem
[12:17] <kallei> my swiftfox wount open http addresses in emails etc, i have swiftfox %s in my preferred applications. How do i fix it?
[12:17] <avu> bassetts: sudo reboot
[12:18] <Andy_Alpha> skldge System>Preferences>Sound  ... check the bottom
[12:18] <eternalswd> kallei, does any browser open or does it do nothing?
[12:18] <kallei> the browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url
[12:19] <Bassetts> avu, thanks
[12:19] <avu> bassetts: you're most welcome
[12:19] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:20] <kallei> eternalswd: the browser opens but the default homepage, not the clicked url
[12:20] <crunch> where do i find the graphical requirements for ubuntu 5.05
[12:20] <sk1dge> andy_alpha: ive got two options there, "intel ich5" (onboard?) and "dell sound blaster live".. selecting either doesnt help.. i may have written unclearly,, no program of any kind is producing sound
[12:20] <crunch> 5.04*
[12:20] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: uuhh... a video output and a monitor
[12:21] <Kyral_Laptop> (hell you don't need those....but I don't think you are running a server)
[12:21] <haasteem> !java
[12:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:21] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: You are asking what kinda of Video card you need correct?
[12:21] <crunch> yeah i have a pci graphics card and a 800 x 600 monitor
[12:22] <crunch> yes Kyral
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: like I said, you need a video output and a monitor :P
[12:22] <manopulus> hello, looking for jedit for ubunutu, it is not in apt-get list... is any repository available?
[12:22] <Shawn2> is there a good howto out there for using and openmosix cluster with ubuntu machines?  i'm having trouble finding a decent on.
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: any kind. If it works it will suffice
[12:22] <secleinteer> hey is the xorg update still bad? or can i upgrade?
[12:22] <Bassetts> anyone know if its possible to start xchat and gaim minimized
[12:22] <mooseman447> warbo thanks that worked
[12:22] <jvai> i had hoary on a thinkpad 600x, i made sure to max out the ram, like 598, including the weak video card
[12:22] <crunch> well then why is it saying x server / graphical interface is a no go
[12:22] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: dunno
[12:22] <trevor64> okay am back on the 64 version :)
[12:23] <peanutb> what does "FATAL -> Failed to fork" mean
[12:23] <Andy_Alpha> skldge hmm... don't know than. You should probably get familiar with ALSA
[12:23] <engla> manopulus: sounds likely, but you know there are many other alternatives I gues
[12:23] <Kyral_Laptop> peanutb: Well, I have NFI seeing as I don't know anything about the problem to begin with
[12:23] <lgespee> I've got a question about Evolution in Ubuntu related the filters not working correctly
[12:23] <Kyral_Laptop> (NFI == No F***ing Idea)
[12:23] <crunch> ok i think i am going to go with windows 95/98 then
[12:23] <sk1dge> andy_alpha: ive poked around in alsamixer, unmuted everything, as well as throughout the volume controls..
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: um,mm let us help? :P
[12:24] <lgespee> it's somewhat related to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/49364
[12:24] <lgespee> to which I already responded
[12:24] <peanutb> kyral_Laptop: when i apt-get install anything it gives that error and exits
[12:24] <Andy_Alpha> Can unconfigured GBO cause web browsers to crash?
[12:24] <bruenig> manopulus, why not install it from the source package
[12:24] <Bassetts> generally where is the best place to install programs?
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> peanutb: are you as root?
[12:24] <engla> manopulus: this site knows how to install jedit http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: use Synaptic or Apt-Get
[12:24] <er4z0r> hi fiolks
[12:24] <Andy_Alpha> skldge Sory I really don't know.
[12:24] <crunch> i wish you could help
[12:24] <lamego> Bassetts, synaptic
[12:24] <sk1dge> k
[12:24] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: you haven't let us lol
[12:25] <peanutb> Kyral_Laptop: yes
[12:25] <sk1dge> ty nway
[12:25] <Bassetts> Kyral_Laptop, lamego: if its from source?
[12:25] <er4z0r> I'd like to check out  vim 7.0. Anyone using it?
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: maybe like the error msg?
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: Apt (and Synaptic) doesn't touch /usr/local or /opt
[12:25] <crunch> Kyral - scroll up
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: run ./configure with --PREFIX=/usr/local (or /opt)
[12:25] <Bassetts> ok
[12:25] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: humor me
[12:26] <crunch>  OK the live cd has come to the same error "I cannot start the x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that is is not set up correctly would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem
[12:26] <Bassetts> anyone know how i can get xchat and gaim to load on startup minimized??
[12:26] <Kyral_Laptop> okay now view the output :P
[12:26] <crunch> ok
[12:26] <eternalswd> kallei, are you using thunderbird?
[12:26] <kallei> yes
[12:26] <Kyral_Laptop> Bassetts: I don't know how
[12:27] <eternalswd> okay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=3
[12:27] <crunch> ok not much of what the output makes sense, but it says fatal server error no screen found
[12:27] <bruenig> Bassets, minimizing gaim is not possible in the way you want to do it. As that is not an option for gaim on the command line. Not sure of xchat
[12:27] <eternalswd> kallei, okay, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=321569&postcount=3
[12:27] <Bassetts> bruenig, thanks
[12:27] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: drop to the command prompt, login as root, and run xorgconfig
[12:28] <magus_x> man
[12:28] <magus_x> i need help!!!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <SirKillalot> hm my amarok wont put its icon to the tray anymore...
[12:28] <SirKillalot> this sucks
[12:28] <dadadu59> hi
[12:28] <magus_x> my system is so slow, fors ome things
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> Dinner TIME!
[12:28] <jvai> i got haory on this thinkpad t40, but i got 1g of ram here
[12:28] <jvai> fluxbox is broken in hoary.. :(
[12:28] <magus_x> like, show up the Logout screen
[12:28] <dadadu59> nobody french here ?
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> !fr
[12:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:28] <HaroldJohnson> rellim: Are you here, by any chance?
[12:28] <magus_x> open system things
[12:28] <magus_x> like network
[12:28] <frank_b> is there any way I can get my windows keys to function in linux?
[12:28] <magus_x> those things, and i need them urgent
[12:28] <Alex> Yes
[12:28] <magus_x> i got no idea
[12:28] <MintyXP> nite aall, many thanks to all for the help, :)
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: you mean the Windows Logo keys?
[12:28] <dadadu59> ok thanks ;)
[12:28] <Alex> frank_b: google 'windows key gnome' - pretty much solves it
[12:28] <frank_b> Kyral_Laptop, yes
[12:28] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: those are "free" keys in Linux
[12:28] <secleinteer> does any1 know if the xorg update problem has been fixed?
[12:29] <dave> hi
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> frank_b: feel free to bind them anyway you want
[12:29] <frank_b> Alex, thanks
[12:29] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone able to install the new image (6.06.1) on an OldWorld Mac?
[12:29] <magus_x> anyone expert can help me?
[12:29] <bruenig> has anyone tried the gaim nautilus integration plugin? Is it any good?
[12:29] <crunch> Kyral: its asking me for a protocol number
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> (I use them as another Modifier Key)
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: read all the text
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> crunch: I really have to eat dinner, sorry
[12:29] <Kyral_Laptop> (Last dinner at home before going to college again)
[12:29] <frank_b> Kyral_Laptop, ok. I'll follow Alex's advice an google it
[12:29] <dave> can anyone please help me? i updated X and it is now broken. thus i cant read the topic ;)
[12:29] <Alex> frank_b: I did it the other day :)
[12:30] <bruenig> !xorgbugfix > dave
[12:30] <Alex> frank_b: It's something to do with defining windows keys as 'super', or something
[12:30] <jldugger> dave: try /topic
[12:30] <frank_b> Alex, :) ok, thanks
[12:30] <crunch> ok man
[12:30] <magus_x> i got an error like
[12:30] <crunch> you'll be back after?
[12:30] <dave> jldugger: thx :))
[12:30] <B_H> hi
[12:30] <magus_x> server curps cannot get started, something like that
[12:30] <jldugger> basically, apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade again
[12:30] <bruenig> does the xorg update mess all machines up or just some
[12:31] <quintin> I cannot seem to get wireless working, have a PRISM2 card, and it shows up on system tray at top
[12:31] <youngcoder> how do i access the bios before grub loads?
[12:31] <jldugger> bruenig: apparently all machines that arent owned by ubuntu developers ;)
[12:31] <bruenig> lol
[12:31] <pushpop11> Is there an ubuntu gaming channel?
[12:31] <bruenig> I guess I will just leave it alone for awhile and then update when I know all is clear
[12:31] <KenSentMe> youngcoder: that depends on your hardware, usually by pressing del or f2, but check the manual of your motherboard
[12:31] <hawkaloogie> youngcoder, that has everything to do with your bios and nothing to do with grub. try making sure you're monitor is on before you power up
[12:31] <quintin> How do I create /dev/wlan0 ?  it doesn't seem to exist
[12:32] <frank_b> thank you Alex and Kyral_Laptop . bye.
[12:32] <jldugger> donk3y, you'd probably be lucky to find a linux gaming channel :(
[12:32] <quintin> Ok, I can see networks in the ESSID dropdown list
[12:32] <scarfboy> what is the significance of stub packages in edgy, like python-mysqldb-1.2.1-p2?
[12:32] <sophtpaw> nekostar, sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core didn't work, Said it couldn't find package
[12:32] <quintin> but I can't get on them
[12:32] <dave> thx alot guys
[12:32] <donk3y> jldugger: ya haha was just curious
[12:33] <jldugger> donk3y, there is 3
[12:33] <scarfboy> I'd rather like to use that version of the package, but it only contains some docs right now.
[12:33] <jldugger> donk3y, there is #icculus.org
[12:33] <sophtpaw> sudo apt-get update didn't work
[12:34] <donk3y> jldugger: ahh cool thanks
[12:34] <kallei> eternalswd: did not work
[12:34] <_tcc> Does Dapper use Madwifi-ng or the older madwifi?
[12:35] <sophtpaw> I stil don't have X
[12:35] <_tcc> Wireless is a real piece of cr@p.
[12:35] <gbauman> Hey guys - I am noticing a lot of packages that are NOT obsolete appearing in Synaptic as obsolete. They are packages from main, and I have all repositories enabled
[12:35] <sophtpaw> using kanotix live cd
[12:35] <gbauman> why would that be happening?
[12:35] <sophtpaw> freaked out and removed X and xorg.conf
[12:35] <eternalswd> kallei, did you make sure to change /usr/bin/firefox to the path for swiftfox?
[12:35] <kallei> eternalswd: yes
[12:35] <sophtpaw> tried sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core but that didn't work
[12:36] <sophtpaw> anyone know if that command is right?
[12:36] <eternalswd> kallei, did you restart thunderbird?
[12:36] <sophtpaw> nalioth, can you help me?
[12:36] <kallei> eternalswd: yes
[12:37] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix > sophtpaw
[12:37] <bigmarCus_> Warbo: what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/mp3
[12:37] <cwells> how can i get ubuntu to boot to a different runlevel?  i've got something that's hanging the system at the default runlevel (I'm guessing X related) so I'd like to drop into a system maintenance mode
[12:37] <nalioth> sophtpaw: with what?
[12:37] <cwells> from grub that is
[12:37] <kallei> eternalswd: swiftfox still opens, but the default homepage
[12:37] <lix> Hi. I've got roubles using my "Omnikey Cardman 4040" pcmcia Card. I think the problem ist somewhere in pcsclite or udev. Can somebody help?
[12:38] <BDerwent> hello, for some reason when I installed the latest upgrade I no longer can start the XServer or something, and the screen that tells me this is garbled
[12:39] <bigmarCus_> what is the proper way to mount a NTFS share on a windows machine if the share is smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/mp3
[12:39] <sophtpaw> nalioth: my X is broken. i was badly advised due to not knowing that ubuntu had problems globally with x, and removed X and xorg.conf
[12:40] <eternalswd> kallei, was thunderbird closed when you editted the .js file?
[12:40] <mih> BDerwent:  If X is broken after a recent update please see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[12:40] <sophtpaw> nalioth: i asked whether the command nekostar gave me: apt-get install x-window-server-core is right. coz it didn't work
[12:40] <sophtpaw> lamego; sudo apt-get update didn't work
[12:40] <wolfmanz> Why is it i have to redo the the mount on my ntfs driver every time i boot?
[12:40] <goatmale> can some one help I put in a new hard  drive and ubuntu isn't noticing it.
[12:41] <kallei> eternalswd:  aah now it works, thanks!
[12:41] <holy_cow> wolfmanz, is it an entry in your fstab?
[12:41] <eternalswd> kallei, no problem
[12:41] <wolfmanz> holy_cow:  no i dont think so
[12:41] <mb_> HELP
[12:41] <mb_> i grabbed the x update this morning and it blew out video on a thinkpad t40
[12:42] <mb_> any help on this would be SOOOOOO appreciated
[12:42] <holy_cow> goatmale, even from the system -> administration -> disk utility?
[12:42] <Warbo> mb_: Look at the channel topic...
[12:42] <sophtpaw> what the hell did ubuntu do with X?
[12:42] <hawkaloogie> mb_, update your repositories and try again.
[12:42] <msoul> mb_: wget ://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[12:42] <holy_cow> wolfmanz, try that then. /etc/fstab is where its at
[12:42] <mb_> hawkaloogie: i hate to sound dumb, but how does one do this?
[12:42] <goatmale> let me try mr cow
[12:42] <nalioth> sophtpaw: did you get a private message from ubotu ?
[12:42] <holy_cow> and then it should mount at boot
[12:43] <mb_> ah
[12:43] <BDerwent> alright, thanks guys
[12:43] <hawkaloogie> mb_, sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <holy_cow> dang, i'm watching silent hill
[12:43] <goatmale> good movie mr cow.
[12:43] <nalioth> !tell sophtpaw about xorgbugfix
[12:43] <nalioth> goatmale: holy_cow: #ubuntu-offtopic for movie reviews, please
[12:44] <goatmale> hey mr cow.  It shows up on the disk utilities
[12:44] <sophtpaw> nalioth, yea got that but i was in ubuntu 10 mins ago and didn't let me update, something aoubt temporary something with archives
[12:44] <Warbo> I've been asking for help with XTeddy for ages. It doesn't work for me in E16 or Fluxbox, in Xorg or AIGLX, from binary or source. Can somebody please tell me if it works or doesn't for them??!
[12:44] <holy_cow> Check out the device name it says and mount that
[12:44] <sophtpaw> nalioth: besides i don't have X at all, Removed X and xorg.conf files
[12:44] <holy_cow> Sorry nalioth
[12:44] <goatmale> do I have to do that every time?
[12:45] <holy_cow> nope
[12:45] <holy_cow> Just add it to your /etc/fstab
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: like i said nekostar gave me a command which didn't work. Said packages couldn't be found
[12:45] <nalioth> sophtpaw: all you need is a console.  have you 'sudo apt-get update' lately?
[12:45] <holy_cow> if its NTFS makesure you make one of the options "ro"
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: the command was: install x-window-server-core
[12:45] <goatmale> it's blank
[12:45] <nalioth> sophtpaw: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[12:45] <sophtpaw> nalioth: like i said about 10 mins ago
[12:45] <rmd> i want to disable gdm at boottime, but not erase it from my system.  how can i do that?
[12:45] <Warbo> NTFS implies ro anyway doesn't it?
[12:45] <holy_cow> other than that, if its formatted in ext3 you can almost copy the line that mounts your root share
[12:46] <WD_Raptor> DIsco STu needs a staffer ooo
[12:46] <Warbo> rmd: Look at "man update-rc.d" and use it to stop GDM launching in runlevel 2
[12:46] <WD_Raptor> Anyone here a staffer
[12:46] <magus_x> i need help, but i got strange problems
[12:46] <rmd> Warbo: thanks
[12:46] <magus_x> system things like network, printers
[12:46] <magus_x> are taking years to start
[12:47] <magus_x> and printer dont start, cups problem
[12:47] <WD_Raptor> Need stafer please
[12:47] <julien_c> X crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?
[12:47] <magus_x> really strange
[12:47] <WD_Raptor> Staffer, please PM me!
[12:48] <goatmale> hey mr cow I did  /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:48] <goatmale> it's a blank 80 gb western digital
[12:48] <LostFrog> Whoever wrote the Ubuntu installer, I thank you one million times.
[12:49] <ugarit> how does one change the default os to boot into?  I'm using grub.
[12:49] <LostFrog> ugarit: /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[12:49] <julien_c> X crashes since the last Software Update (GLcore can't be loaded), anyone had that problem ?
[12:49] <engla> julien_c: yes, many sadly
[12:49] <LostFrog> julien_c: /topic
[12:50] <engla> julien_c: if you can, just update to even newer version
[12:50] <julien_c> oh
[12:50] <scarfboy> huh... debian has MySQLdb-1.2.1_p2 in unstable. But edgy seems to have a sub package. Not sure about the differences involved there - can anyone enlighten me whether I can expect 1.2.1_p2 in edgy?
[12:50] <julien_c> sorry lol I did not read the topic
[12:50] <julien_c> thanks
[12:50] <Zambezi> How can I formate hdb1? "sudo mkfs -t ext3 -m 0 -r 0", but how should I format hdb1?
[12:50] <mcphail> Which mirrors have the newer xorg package? How long does it take to roll out to all mirrors?
[12:50] <ugarit> LostFrog:  Are the os's listed in the order which they would appear in the grub boot up sequence?
[12:51] <LostFrog> 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hdb1'
[12:51] <scarfboy> or another mkfs as you wish
[12:51] <LostFrog> ugarit: no.. there is a default tag.. and it's numbered from 0.
[12:51] <goatmale> where is fstab?
[12:51] <Kyral_Laptop> in /etc/
[12:51] <goatmale> thanks
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> (/etc in general is the location of system wide configuration files)
[12:52] <goatmale> leet, thanks
[12:52] <scarfboy> is ubuntu aware of dependencies in packages installed with dpkg -i?
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> ...please don't use that term
[12:52] <mcphail> scarfboy: yes
[12:52] <Kyral_Laptop> scarfboy: you have to manually resolve deps when installing with dpkg
[12:52] <scarfboy> As in, will it update it with newer versions from that actual tree
[12:52] <scarfboy> I know that
[12:53] <LostFrog> scarfboy: yes.. all packages are installed using dpkg.
[12:53] <scarfboy> I just want to tell the sysadmin here something simple
[12:53] <magus_x> hey, i got some strange problems, i need someone experient to help me
[12:53] <scarfboy> preferably not involving compiling things from source or that this will break the next update
[12:53] <LostFrog> scarfboy: to upgrade a package, you need to use dpkg -U
[12:53] <scarfboy> that's lovely, but not the point.
[12:54] <rummik> magus_x: maybe you should ask the question, instead of asking for experienced help
[12:54] <magus_x> its an strange problem
[12:54] <scarfboy> I assume apt has a list of things it has installed, to update. If I dpkg -i something into ubuntu from debian, will it get updated?
[12:54] <magus_x> well
[12:54] <LostFrog> yes..
[12:54] <scarfboy> Alright, thanks:)
[12:55] <lamego> scarfboy, if the dependencies are ok, yet it will
[12:55] <magus_x> my system programs like: network, printers and services ( i dont know if other system tools are ) , are acting really strange
[12:55] <LostFrog> If there is a update available via apt, of course.
[12:55] <magus_x> they are taking 3 minuts to open, and printers "cuds" is problematic because it dont opens anymore
[12:55] <scarfboy> sounds semsible. But what does that depend on? Package name, or some specific metadata?
[12:55] <LostFrog> scarfboy: apt using dpkg to install packages.
[12:55] <magus_x> all this happened after an energy fault
[12:55] <magus_x> any idea? :(
[12:55] <wolfmanz> Does dapper drake come with alsa or is that a seperate thing that has to be installed?
[12:56] <scarfboy> I know the package name is the same, so that would be neat
[12:56] <LostFrog> s/using/uses
[12:56] <mb_> thanks for the fix, guys.
[12:56] <mb_> worked like a champ.
[12:56] <Mr_Awesome> hi, today i booted linux and got the error "no screens found" from X; yesterday it was working but i also installed a recent update to the x server (or something similar).  does anyone know what could be wrong?
[12:56] <goatmale> wolf try alsamixer
[12:56] <mb_> now fire the guy whgo messed that up!!! :P
[12:57] <goatmale> mr awesome read the topic
[12:57] <Mr_Awesome> aha, thanks
[12:57] <goatmale> no problem.
[12:57] <Mr_Awesome> heh, i never read those darned topics
[12:57] <scarfboy> But the whole point is I want it to not disturb automatic upgrades at all.
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: look at the top of the screen
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: see the bar at the top? :P
[12:58] <scarfboy> not stay behind as if it were 'make install'ed around a package manager, and be upgraded as it if were the python-mysqldb package in ubuntu
[12:58] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: i had that problem last night :P
[12:58] <scarfboy> (which is outdated right now)
[12:58] <mcphail> Kyral_Laptop: yes, i know. but most topics are > 80 chars
[12:58] <wolfmanz> goatmale: i get the mixer but i dont see a option to sellect Alsa in the teamspeak settings only OSS
[12:58] <Kyral_Laptop> mcphail: I ignore the topic generally
[12:58] <goatmale> huh
[12:58] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[12:58] <Mr_Awesome> is there anyway to view a web page from the command line?
[12:58] <lamego> ?? xorgbufix
[12:58] <LostFrog> mcphail: /topic #ubuntu
[12:59] <lamego> ?? xorgbugfix
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> or irc, or msn/aim
[12:59] <LostFrog> Mr_Awesome: lynx or links
[12:59] <lamego> !! xorgbugfix
[12:59] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[12:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Mr_Awesome: install Lynx or Links
[12:59] <mcphail> Kyral_Laptop: the /topic used to be updated here quite often and was worth checking, but it has been a bit stagnant lately
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> ok, cause i could really use that at times
[12:59] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, centericq for MSN & aim
[12:59] <scarfboy> so, LostFrog, I guess my quiestion is whether it will act as the package tree or not?
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> oh ok, thanks
[12:59] <Kyral_Laptop> Mr_Awesome: I tend to keep CLI versions of everything in case of emergency
[12:59] <Mr_Awesome> Kyral_Laptop: yeah thats a good idea
[12:59] <LostFrog> scarfboy: it will act no differently than if it was installed using apt.
[12:59] <Thaur> Kyral_Laptop, same :P
[01:00] <mcphail> lamego: I apt-get updated 10 minutes ago and it was still broken from the dutch repos
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> though <3 Vim :P
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> *DUCK!*
[01:00] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, you shoulden't ever rely on GUI
[01:00] <sharperguy> Kyral_Laptop, i better "sudo apt-get install irssi" then!
[01:00] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: you can downgrade with apt-get
[01:00] <Mr_Awesome> Thaur: im a windows guy at heart though ;)
[01:00] <mb_> btw, as words of strength and encouragement, ubuntu is hands down, the best distro i've used in 8 years.
[01:00] <LostFrog> especially Motherboard manufacturers.
[01:00] <mb_> nice work, guys.
[01:00] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, Ouch. I'd used windows for a long time before linux, but I Was a linux guy at heart
[01:00] <_tcc> Where is the .config for the default kernel?
[01:00] <sharperguy> oh lol i already have it
[01:00] <lamego> mcphail, mine is ok, tks :)
[01:00] <Kyral_Laptop> LostFrog: Actually I was reading the new CSS specs, you can use MEDIA to specify a StyleSheet for Terminals now
[01:01] <scarfboy> It would never be installed via apt, it's not strictly a ubuntu package, it's a debian package. Hence my question about whether there is a possible difference.
[01:01] <LostFrog> _tcc: /boot/config-dsakfjhasdfkjhdsfa
[01:01] <Mr_Awesome> Thaur: im hoping ill get converted eventually
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> _tcc: try zcat /proc/config.gz
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> (If it exists)
[01:01] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-core/dapper'
[01:01] <Kyral_Laptop> I dunno if Ubuntu has that option enabled
[01:01] <Zambezi> LostFrog, scarfboy: I managed to format it, but the problem now is I can't mount it.
[01:01] <Thaur> Mr_Awesome, Good man :P. If it dosen't feel right right now, it tends to grow on you
[01:01] <marshall_> does anybudy here have windows live mail?
[01:01] <_tcc> config-2.6.15-26-386
[01:01] <_tcc> I think
[01:01] <_tcc>  /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386
[01:01] <goatmale> where are hard drives usally mounted in ubuntu
[01:02] <LostFrog> Zambezi: mount /dev/hdb1 <mountpoint>
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: depends on what type
[01:02] <rmd> Warbo: how do i know what item it is in the init script so i can stop it?
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: IDE drives are usually /dev/hd{a,b,c}
[01:02] <Mr_Awesome> rummik: thanks ill give that a shot
[01:02] <marshall_> is anybody having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?
[01:02] <goatmale> yeah i have one in /dev/hdb
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: SATA and SCSI are /dev/sd{a,b,c}
[01:02] <goatmale> but how do I mount it?
[01:02] <LostFrog> Kyral_Laptop: those are the devices, not mount points.
[01:02] <Kyral_Laptop> LostFrog: I know
[01:02] <rummik> Mr_Awesome: that's what i was told to do last night, it worked perfectly
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: aren't you already running the system?
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: or did you add a new HD?
[01:03] <goatmale> ?
[01:03] <goatmale> I just added a new one
[01:03] <goatmale> trying to set it up
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: well to find out about current mounted systems, just run "mount"
[01:03] <Kyral_Laptop> !fstab
[01:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:03] <Zambezi> LostFrog, Thanks. It worked now.
[01:04] <survivor> hey.
[01:04] <LostFrog> Zambezi: read the above for automount at bootup.
[01:04] <marshall_> whats the best linux video editor
[01:04] <survivor> i want to repartition my hard drive and have found gparted.
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: basically you gotta make a directory where you want it to appear in the filesystem, put the info in /etc/fstab, and mount it
[01:04] <survivor> can i run this from inside an ubuntu live session?
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: in a word, its your choice :P
[01:04] <jordanau> marshall_, check virtualdub
[01:04] <Kyral_Laptop> survivor: yes
[01:04] <survivor> sounds great :)
[01:04] <survivor> *looks for livecd*
[01:04] <Zambezi> LostFrog, But now it's another problem. ;-/ I need to change the rights cause the application I try to use, can't save to the harddrive.
[01:04] <marshall_> is anybody else having trouble logging in to windows live mail from firefox?
[01:05] <goatmale> kyral can I pm you my fstab info?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Windows Live Mail....is that a joke?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: read the stuff in !fstab
[01:05] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: its kinda self-explainitory
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> Yea for commented out config files!
[01:05] <nekostarz> hey
[01:05] <nekostarz> y cant i open .deb files with fileroller anymroe
[01:05] <nekostarz> more**
[01:05] <Kyral_Laptop> ..why would you
[01:06] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:06] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, b/c i wanna?
[01:06] <Kyral_Laptop> nekostarz: good reason!
[01:06] <nekostarz> or mebbie i wanna extract a file or two from it o.O
[01:06] <Kyral_Laptop> and I dunno :P
[01:08] <nekostarz> os[Linux 2.6.15-26-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+ @ 2.16GHz]  mem[Physical : 1011MB, 84.7% free]  disk[Total : 368.66GB, 41.70% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[Audigy2 - Audigy 2 [SB0240] ]
[01:08] <nekostarz> ah ha
[01:08] <jvai> lol... that's what linux is for.. the curoius
[01:08] <jvai> sumtymes
[01:08] <nekostarz> installed xchat-xsys
[01:08] <lmosher> hey all. i'm getting this error: /dev/dsp: Input/output error why trying to play enemy-territory. Any ideas? (I also don't get any sound) :)
[01:08] <nekostarz> and copied the .so over so i can load manually [from ~/.xchat2/
[01:08] <nekostarz> b/c i dont wanna run the 2.6.x xchat i like the 2.4.x
[01:08] <blend> hi every1 , where can i get some really basic newbie help for mounting an ntfs partition... ive tried many guides over the net without succeeding
[01:09] <mcphail> Is there a way to downgrade a package via apt/aptituse/synaptic which doesn't rely on you knowing the prvious version number?
[01:09] <blend> any help would be appreciate it thanks
[01:09] <mcphail> *aptitude
[01:09] <Waffler> Hello.  I'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.
[01:10] <nekostarz> mcphail, try the same method as the xorg thing
[01:10] <nekostarz> !xorgbugfix
[01:10] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[01:10] <nekostarz> just do the apt-cache policy for that package
[01:10] <nekostarz> or if its a single package browse with firefox or equivelant through the repos to the package u want
[01:10] <nekostarz> :)
[01:10] <nekostarz> dl and install
[01:10] <nekostarz> etc
[01:11] <mcphail> nekostarz: the apt-cache policy thing doesn't tell you the _previous_ version number
[01:11] <blend> nekostarz, hi can u pls tell me where can i get newbie support for basic stuff like mounting ntfs partitions and general guidelines?
[01:11] <nekostarz> !ntfs
[01:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:12] <nekostarz> mcphail, then download it manually
[01:12] <blend> gr8 thanks
[01:12] <nekostarz> what package btw?
[01:12] <nekostarz> np blend
[01:12] <nekostarz> btw blend be careful with fuse // write support to ntfs
[01:12] <nekostarz> its still a bit buggy
[01:12] <nekostarz> ~_^
[01:12] <blend> ok mate thanks again :)
[01:12] <xxpor2> Pizza, what do u mean by buggy :P
[01:12] <Pizza> np
[01:13] <Pizza> xxpor, meaning u lose data a percentage of the time
[01:13] <mcphail> nekostarz: nothing in particular. But i have now had to downgrade 2 packages this week due to borked ubuntu repos. I'm getting bored trawling repos. A simple "apt-get downgrade" would be nice
[01:13] <Pizza> personally my windows  partition is fat32 because there is good suport for that.
[01:13] <Pizza> mcphail, agreed
[01:13] <bkudria> scanModem says my winmodem is supported, but I can't get it to work...can anyone help?
[01:13] <Pizza> also a way to show all avaliable package versions for a package
[01:14] <mcphail> Pizza: yes
[01:14] <goatmale> why doesn't su work for me?
[01:14] <Waffler> I'm trying to get my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCI card to work with ndiswrapper, but I cannot seem to get it to detect the hardware.  It keeps saying there is no wlan0 device.  Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[01:14] <Kyral_Laptop> goatmale: read !root
[01:14] <blend> guys is there a specific channel for newbies? or its the same on this 1?
[01:14] <goatmale> waffler try ndisgtk
[01:14] <Kyral_Laptop> blend: its this one
[01:15] <goatmale> it's a nice program and it makes things really easy
[01:15] <goatmale> !root
[01:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:15] <blend> cool, at least a good start lol
[01:15] <Kyral_Laptop> Heheh newbies, I remember having to compile NDiswrapper from source on Slackware 10.1
[01:15] <nekostarz> btw to be root for a bit
[01:15] <nekostarz> sudo su -
[01:15] <nekostarz> :)
[01:15] <Waffler> where can I find more information about ndisgtk?
[01:15] <Kyral_Laptop> (no offense to the word newbie)
[01:15] <nekostarz> lol Kyral_Laptop
[01:15] <nekostarz> i remember when i installed debian the first time
[01:15] <blend> none taken whatso ever im just gladd im off anything called winzows :D
[01:15] <nekostarz> i hated it ~_~
[01:16] <Kyral_Laptop> Slackware mmmm
[01:16] <Kyral_Laptop> prolly why I run Arch now
[01:16] <holy_cow> Yeah. I'm pleasantly suprised at the functionality I'm getting going cold turkey from windows
[01:16] <wooflungpoo> When i uninstalled ubuntu from my laptop that was dualbooting winxp. now when i turn on my laptop it just goes to grub loading stage1.5 . then says Grub loading, please wait error 22 any ideas?
[01:16] <ccooke> nekostarz: You can reduce that to 'sudo -s', by the way
[01:16] <nekostarz> ccooke, o?
[01:17] <nekostarz> huh
[01:17] <mcphail> wooflungpoo: you deleted the information grub needs to boot when you deleted the ubuntu partition
[01:17] <avu> nekostarz: or sudo -i :)
[01:17] <nekostarz> whats the diff
[01:17] <nekostarz> lol
[01:17] <nekostarz> i knwo i knwo... man sudo
[01:17] <goatmale> goatmale@goatmale-desktop:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/hd/
[01:17] <goatmale> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:17] <goatmale> what did I do wrong?
[01:17] <ccooke> nekostarz: sudo -i is, in effect, exactly the same as 'sudo su -'. sudo -s is very similar to "su" :-)
[01:18] <wooflungpoo> soo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?
[01:18] <avu> goatmale: /dev/hdb is the whole disk
[01:18] <Zambezi> Which is the best and most secure way to change the rights on a folder on my hdb-harddrive?
[01:18] <holy_cow> goatmale, -t ext3
[01:18] <holy_cow> goatmale, if its ext3
[01:18] <avu> goatmale: what you want to do is mount a partition on that disk, I guess
[01:18] <goatmale> i don't know what it is.
[01:18] <nekostarz> -i  The -i (simulate initial login) /// -s  The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL
[01:19] <nekostarz> interesting
[01:19] <nekostarz> ;)
[01:19] <goatmale> it's blank I just put it in
[01:19] <goatmale> do I want to partition it?
[01:19] <z3r0x> does anybody know a tool to cut tracks?
[01:19] <nekostarz> goatmale,
[01:19] <nekostarz> what are u mounting
[01:19] <MrGideon> Anyone been having random issues with dvd's?
[01:19] <nekostarz> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hd/
[01:19] <goatmale> a new hard drive
[01:19] <nekostarz> etc
[01:19] <nekostarz> oh
[01:19] <nekostarz> before you mount it
[01:19] <ccooke> Zambezi: most secure? Take an axe to it... (query: do you mean 'an application for changing rights' or 'the best rights to have' ?
[01:19] <metrom> hey, how do I easily install Azureuz <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:19] <nekostarz> sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[01:19] <nekostarz> :)
[01:20] <wooflungpoo> soo how can i get past this so it defaults to winxp now?
[01:20] <goatmale> what do I do from there neko?
[01:20] <avu> metrom: download it from azureus.sf.net, tar xjf it, cd azureus, ./azureus
[01:20] <Satya> so whats the solution to the X bug? my thinkpad wont start x!
[01:20] <nekostarz> goatmale,
[01:20] <docgnome> there is a program that will make it so programs like apache and firestarter and so forth won't start when the machine powers up... anyone know the name of it? it works by removing all the /etc/rc*.d files if i recall...
[01:20] <nekostarz> decide how many and what size partitions
[01:20] <nekostarz> what type etc
[01:20] <nekostarz> OR
[01:20] <metrom> should I move the file somewhere after?
[01:21] <goatmale> can I just write it all to something easy
[01:21] <nekostarz> close that without doing anything
[01:21] <nekostarz> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:21] <nekostarz> and run that as root and format graphically
[01:21] <nekostarz> which you might like a little better
[01:21] <McJerry> anyone using aircrack that can help me?
[01:21] <avu> metrom: there's no real need to do so, no
[01:21] <metrom> ok, thanks
[01:22] <nekostarz> np
[01:22] <Zambezi> ccooke, Just change the rights so I can copy files to the folder without using root, but not give access so a hacker can harm my system.
[01:22] <nekostarz> holler if u need mroe help
[01:22] <wooflungpoo> hey mcphail how could i fix that error 22 issue?
[01:22] <nekostarz> and on the azureus thing metrom
[01:22] <nekostarz> i know its not officially supported BUT
[01:22] <nekostarz> automatix >>> install azureus
[01:22] <nekostarz> then sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/azureus
[01:23] <nekostarz> and you can update just fine
[01:23] <nekostarz> :)
[01:23] <cwells> i've got a mac mini with ubuntu that i've messed up the init scripts on and it hangs at boot.  how can I a) mount the disk from a rescue cd b) boot into a different runlevel?
[01:23] <Kyral_Laptop> Automatix != good
[01:23] <avu> nekostarz: you should never tell people to chmod -R 777 anything
[01:23] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, extreme dependance on automatix != good
[01:23] <metrom> so, automatix have the new azureus
[01:23] <nekostarz> a few packages on automatix == great
[01:23] <VitaminG> avu: sometimes, that's the only way it will run
[01:23] <Kyral_Laptop> then show them how to install them the right way
[01:24] <nekostarz> i install opera // swiftfox and azureus with it Kyral_Laptop
[01:24] <nekostarz> and thats about it
[01:24] <nekostarz> eh
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> We no help by doing it for them
[01:24] <nekostarz> they serve a purpose
[01:24] <nekostarz> y not just send em to #gentoo then
[01:24] <nekostarz> :P
[01:24] <avu> vitaming: maybe there are a few very very special cases where 77 really are the appropiate rights
[01:24] <Flannel> nekostarz: Automatix's only purpose is to screw up systems
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> Give a man a fish, feed him for a day
[01:24] <VitaminG> avu: and those situations are my point.
[01:24] <Kyral_Laptop> teach a man to fish, feed him for life
[01:24] <avu> vitaming: but this is *very* rare and surely not the case in the given situation
[01:24] <nekostarz> teach him to fish and he'll be asking for bait his entire life
[01:24] <nekostarz> and borrowing your rod
[01:25] <nekostarz> and stealing your beer
[01:25] <crimsun> regardless whether you like automatix or not, please don't spread fud about it.
[01:25] <nekostarz> O:
[01:25] <Flannel> crimsun: It's hardly FUD, it's factual.
[01:25] <nekostarz> Flannel,
[01:25] <nekostarz> actually
[01:25] <blend> from what i got reading the help file, u basically need to convert mp3 files using audacity
[01:25] <wooflungpoo> does anyone know how to fix the issue i formatted the ubutnu partition now it hangs at startup with an error22 please help
[01:25] <nekostarz> its quite usefull for a few things
[01:25] <VitaminG> flannel: and so is Microsoft?
[01:25] <nekostarz> and its not screwed my system at all
[01:25] <RogerRabb> how can I check harddrive activity?  End of discussion.
[01:26] <nekostarz> dl / backup
[01:26] <nekostarz> crimsun, or someone
[01:26] <Flannel> nekostarz: right, there *are* people out there who have no problems, but there are far too many who do, and when automatix screws up, it's a reinstall.
[01:26] <nekostarz> wtf is fud
[01:26] <blend> lol
[01:26] <Kyral_Laptop> This is why I use Arch.....
[01:26] <nekostarz> Flannel, not nessisaraly
[01:26] <VitaminG> blend: thats nothing, one of my friends has 36 gigs of music, and he's still growing the collection
[01:26] <nekostarz> and reinstalling isnt hard
[01:26] <nekostarz> thats why we all have swap / and /home on different partitions isnt it
[01:26] <nekostarz> o:
[01:26] <wizard> anyone know why i freeze on log out?
[01:27] <Flannel> nekostarz: yes, necessarily.  We see them here all the time, which is why we do not endorse automatix.
[01:27] <drshasta19> hello all !!!
[01:27] <blend> VitaminG does he go and convert each file to listne to it :S
[01:27] <nekostarz> anyway
[01:27] <drshasta19> I need a lot fo help
[01:27] <aaron> does anyone know of an app that functions as a homework organizer?
[01:27] <docgnome> There is a program that will make it so that daemons won't launch when i start my computer... anyone know what it's called?
[01:27] <nekostarz> your safe installing those 3 packages from automatix
[01:27] <drshasta19> when i start ubuntu, after the line EVMS
[01:27] <nekostarz> ~_~
[01:27] <VitaminG> nekostar: fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It's a common MS tactic, or at least was.
[01:27] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[01:27] <lamego> nekostarz, no, we have /home in differente partitions for system upgrades, not to restore from automatix
[01:27] <aaron> os x has schoolhouse, and there are tons of options for windows.
[01:27] <drshasta19> a long list comes up saying [XXXXXXXXXXXXX.XXXX]  Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block
[01:27] <aaron> but synaptic shows nothing for ubuntu.
[01:27] <TiG4> *** Once I have installed SAMBA in Synaptic, how do I start it up? ***
[01:27] <drshasta19> any ideas?
[01:27] <RogerRabb> VitaminG if you store music in lossless for backup purposes then well.. hundreds and hundreds of gigs
[01:27] <skel_home> can anyone tell me how to find recently installed updates and how to back it out? I applied a suggested ubuntu update for Xorg and now my X is broken =/
[01:27] <VitaminG> blend: no, why would he?
[01:27] <crimsun> we should not be endorsing anything not DIRECTLY in the Canonical repos.
[01:27] <nekostarz> lamego, i have /home on different partition so i can run multiple linuxes with same settings
[01:27] <nekostarz> O:O:
[01:27] <nekostarz> anyway
[01:27] <muaddib> I have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules are load
[01:27] <muaddib> much
[01:28] <nekostarz> im not disagreeing and i know there are problems now and then
[01:28] <muaddib> any ideas would be appreciated
[01:28] <nekostarz> so meh
[01:28] <blend> vitaminG from what i got checking the help files in order to listen to mp3 files on ubuntu u need to convert it to a special format
[01:28] <blend> no?
[01:28] <Luccid> How do you pronouce ubunutu ?
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> !mp3
[01:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:28] <nekostarz> Kyral_Laptop, u beat me ~_~
[01:28] <VitaminG> my wireless mouse just died!
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> VitaminG: replace the batteries
[01:28] <jvai> oo-bun'-too
[01:28] <Kyral_Laptop> :P
[01:29] <bimberi> !pronounce
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu is pronounced "oo-BOON-too"  See http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq
[01:29] <mitch> drshasta19, R U using LVM?
[01:29] <saiko> VitaminG: you don't need mouse in console
[01:29] <blend> hehehe thanks guys off for some more reading ... its gonna be a long night lol
[01:29] <RogerRabb> not at all blend.. those links ^ explain the situation and what to install to listen to it.. once you've done that.. try out amarok :D my favourite music player
[01:29] <VitaminG> kyral_laptopthat's what I'm doing.
[01:29] <Luccid> thanks
[01:29] <drshasta19> mitch yes
[01:29] <blend> rogerrabb ok cool i was worried for a moment there lol
[01:29] <drshasta19> it is automotik in ubuntu
[01:29] <nekostarz> ooo yes
[01:29] <nekostarz> actually Kyral_Laptop here's a good one for u
[01:29] <|rt|> hmm how do I look at those links concerning a broken X when X isn't working
[01:29] <VitaminG> it lives!
[01:29] <proselyte> gnome keeps freezing up in ubunt
[01:30] <nekostarz> how can i have my consoles have higher resolution like teh gentoo ???
[01:30] <mcphail> |rt|: use elinks
[01:30] <nekostarz> i would like svga at least ^^;;
[01:30] <Luccid> so is it bun or BOON ?
[01:30] <mitch> drshasta19, did you previously define an lvm pv or vg and then reinstall?
[01:30] <blend> anyway im off for some reading , thanks for the support every1
[01:30] <|rt|> mcphail: k i'll give that a shot thanks
[01:30] <muaddib> any thought
[01:30] <VitaminG> blend: if you install all the gstreamer codecs, and libxine-extracodecs, all media files will play fine.
[01:30] <Luccid> went to link thanks
[01:30] <muaddib> sorry I meant thoughts
[01:30] <rexxkwando> my X on my desktop has ceased viability
[01:30] <bimberi> Luccid: BOON
[01:30] <drshasta19> mitch i dont know what you are talking about sorry
[01:30] <blend> vitaming ok will do that thanks again
[01:30] <aaron> nobody knows of a homework organization app for ubuntu/linux?
[01:30] <nekostarz> muaddib,
[01:30] <drshasta19> the error started to appear after i installed fuse
[01:30] <blend> ciao
[01:30] <eternalswd> anyone know how to make tiltwheel buttons only send a single signal rather than repeated signals?
[01:31] <proselyte> could adding xfce and kde to my ubuntu cause gnome to freeze up repeatedly, if not, what would?
[01:31] <nekostarz> anyone helped u yet ?
[01:31] <mcphail> |rt|: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10 will get you out of trouble
[01:31] <drshasta19> i rebooted and the error came up...
[01:31] <VitaminG> luccid: ooboontoo is how you pronounce it
[01:31] <zarstar> i'm new with the ubuntu
[01:31] <muaddib> nekostarz: was that last post for me
[01:31] <mitch> drshasta19, were you using lvm and then reinstalled your OS?
[01:31] <nekostarz> muaddib I have a gigabyte 965 DS-3 motherboard and I am trying to configure my on board SATA ports which is using the intel chipset. I have the ata_piix module loaded and from the logs its looks like it sees the drives plugged into the port "SATA max UDMA /133 cmd 0xB400 ctl 0xB802 bmdma 0xC400 irq177". Right after that point it shows the following SATA link down (SStatus 0). Did I miss a setting or something I mean all the modules a
[01:31] <nekostarz> re loa  <<---
[01:31] <zarstar> what's that story of the root?
[01:31] <|rt|> mcphail: thanks
[01:31] <proselyte> me?
[01:31] <proselyte> no
[01:31] <zarstar>  (and sudo?)
[01:31] <nekostarz> mmm
[01:31] <SonicChao> How do I get the "Wine" menu to appear in Gnome?
[01:31] <nekostarz> lets take a look
[01:31] <nekostarz> sata directly to the mobo muaddib ?
[01:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell zarstar about root
[01:32] <muaddib> nekostarz: no I was still waiting for someone's opnion
[01:32] <drshasta19> mitch, yes but all i did was reactivate grub since windows erased it
[01:32] <drshasta19> and it worked
[01:32] <drshasta19> mitch, it did work, until i installed fuse and rebooted...
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, i never used the write property of fuse i jsut installed it and rebooted
[01:33] <nekostarz> !grub
[01:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:33] <galago> When attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?
[01:33] <mitch> drshasta19, not familiar with fuse.. what is it?
[01:33] <nekostarz> muaddib, are you planning on using raid ?
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, the system halted for a long time, i pressed the power button and restarted and that is when the touble came
[01:33] <drshasta19> mitch, fuse allows you to read write ntfs files
[01:33] <muaddib> nekostarz: No
[01:34] <mitch> drshasta19, does your system work well otherwise?
[01:34] <drshasta19> mitch, yes
[01:34] <drshasta19> mitch, perfectly
[01:34] <RogerRabb> checking hard drive activity - eg what's reading and writing to it.. can you do that in linux?
[01:34] <|rt|> mcphail: that did the trick...X is working now
[01:34] <nekostarz> then are you planning on installing a butload of hdd's muaddib ?
[01:35] <mitch> drshasta19, the easy fix is to disable evms (if you are not using it).
[01:35] <mcphail> |rt|: excellent. I believe a fixed package is on its way to the repos
[01:35] <rexxkwando> my X on my desktop has ceased viability, what can I do to get X fixed?
[01:35] <profoX`> mitch: (i thought fuse was filesystem in usermode, you can add filesystems without having to recompile the kernel that way)
[01:35] <drshasta19> mitch, how do i do that and is it okay not to use evms?
[01:35] <|rt|> mcphail: so is the update manager going to want to reinstall the version that doesn't work?
[01:36] <mcphail> |rt|: i'd avoid updating for a few hours to be on the safe side
[01:36] <muaddib> nekostarz: eventually yes right now I only have 2 installed
[01:36] <mcphail> *upgrading
[01:36] <|rt|> mcphail: sounds good thanks
[01:36] <profoX`> |rt|: it should already be fixed that problem. Did you sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? if you see that ubuntu10.4 gets installed, you are okay, if it is 10.3 then you have to downgrade again with the command that mcphail gave you
[01:37] <shawarma> RogerRabb: Yes. Put a '1' into /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
[01:37] <rexxkwando> so if I just wait it out and update/upgrade, X will fix?
[01:37] <profoX`> rexxkwando: yes
[01:37] <FRET> hey all
[01:37] <nekostarz> mmm
[01:37] <profoX`> rexxkwando: should already be fixed in most/all repositories
[01:38] <rexxkwando> okay
[01:38] <mcphail> profoX`: still the borked one on my repo
[01:38] <profoX`> mcphail: did you apt-get update?
[01:38] <mitch> drshasta19, any /dev/evms/ paths in /etc/fstab?
[01:38] <RogerRabb> then what shawarma?
[01:38] <profoX`> mcphail: what repo are you using? (what mirror)
[01:38] <rexxkwando> wow, linux is the atom-bomb
[01:38] <shawarma> RogerRabb: ...then it shows up in dmesg
[01:38] <RogerRabb> awesome thanks
[01:38] <mcphail> profoX`: i tell a lie - just updated again and the new one is there
[01:39] <FRET> I'm new to ubuntu and I had some problems with an xserver-update.  I just didn't know what was happening, when x didn't want to start anymore.
[01:39] <nekostarz> mmmm
[01:39] <drshasta19> mitch, no
[01:39] <shawarma> docgnome: Look for something along the lines of "services" in the administratoin menu in gnome.
[01:39] <profoX`> FRET: it should already be fixed that problem.  I finally thought about looking for updates and it was fixed
[01:40] <jordanau> FRET, look in the topic and you will se a link to the problem\
[01:40] <FRET> jordanau, thx
[01:40] <FRET> profoX`, I did not do the dist-upgrade
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> i need a little help getting a printer to work
[01:41] <profoX`> FRET: normal upgrade is good too
[01:41] <Toran> Hey, does anyone know of a Nintendo Entertainment System Emulator that will support my generic USB gamepad?
[01:41] <y0ss1_77> where do i find he ppd file
[01:41] <FRET> profoX`, ok. Did that and everything is working now. But I guess such things don't happen to often? ;-)
[01:41] <profoX`> Toran: dont know about NES, for SNES I used Zsnes / snes9x
[01:41] <Thlayli> anyone else having troubles with xorg since the update?
[01:41] <Toran> I use zsnes, and it works fine with my pad
[01:41] <profoX`> FRET: this is the first time that a problem this big has happened that I know of.
[01:41] <Thlayli> i'm using the proprietary nvidia driver and can't start xorg anymore now
[01:42] <mitch> drshasta19, the errors won't hurt anything, but you can remove evms from the boot runlevel and you wont see them anymore...
[01:42] <drshasta19> ok
[01:42] <profoX`> FRET: I proposed a new "acceptance" repository, so we will never have problems like this again, i hope the idea gets accepted, technical board meeting is next tuesday
[01:42] <Agrajag> Thlayli: check the topic
[01:42] <Knome> Toran: perhaps fceu
[01:42] <Thlayli> i get errors in GLXcore.so and the message "No Devices detected"
[01:42] <drshasta19> mitch, how do i remove it then?
[01:42] <Toran> Tried it, it doesn't seem to work
[01:42] <y0ss1_77> does anyone know a page to help me get my printer working?
[01:42] <Thlayli> agrajag: could you copy paste it for me? can't read it fully on my current screen :(
[01:42] <Agrajag> Toran: there is a program called joy2key that should help you
[01:43] <mitch> drshasta19, I had the same problem, and never could find a good solution. I finally deactivated/removed LVM volumes and started over.
[01:43] <FRET> profoX`, I see.
[01:43] <Toran> Thanks Agrajag
[01:43] <Agrajag> Thlayli: just type /topic
[01:43] <Thlayli> thx
[01:43] <drshasta19> mitch, could you give me more details please on the procedure i must follow? thank you
[01:43] <crimsun> profoX`: hardly. Fedora Core 5 released with a kernel that refused to load (by default) proprietary modules.
[01:43] <Agrajag> Thlayli: basically, you should just try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:44] <profoX`> crimsun: ._.
[01:44] <Agrajag> Thlayli: that should install the newest update that fixes the problem the last update produced
[01:44] <y0ss1_77> printers please?
[01:44] <dravas> Uhh some things on Linux have like Choppy movement like Screensavers etc what can I do about that I have a nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU
[01:44] <mitch> drshasta19, update-rc.d -f evms remove
[01:44] <profoX`> anyway, this is my idea about improving the quality of the repositories: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcceptanceRepositoryProposal FRET
[01:44] <mitch> drshasta19, ^^ at your own risk!
[01:44] <drshasta19> mitch thanks a lot
[01:44] <profoX`> dravas: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[01:44] <drshasta19> yeah
[01:44] <drshasta19> thanks
[01:44] <dravas> no
[01:45] <matt____> has anyone installed steam on dapper
[01:45] <crimsun> profoX`: I'd like to draw your attention to the existing -proposed, repository.
[01:45] <y0ss1_77> does anyone know how to get hp printer to work on linux?
[01:45] <crimsun> s/\,//
[01:45] <profoX`> crimsun: if you read my proposal, then you'd know that I know about it.
[01:45] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: what model
[01:45] <FRET> profoX`, thx... I'll have a look
[01:45] <profoX`> crimsun: proposed is more for big updates like openoffice.org
[01:46] <mcphail> profoX`: was the borked xorg patch a security patch?
[01:46] <y0ss1_77> hp 1012 laserjet
[01:46] <dravas> !nvidia
[01:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:46] <profoX`> mcphail: I don't know, I was told it was an upstream bug in X.org itself
[01:46] <crimsun> profoX`: there's no point in duplicating what -proposed does.
[01:46] <blend> !mp3
[01:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> ya know how the faulty version of x.org was released as an official .deb in the ubuntu repositories? well, after i downgraded, i can manually start X with "startx", but gdm refuses to start, with error after error
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> :(
[01:46] <profoX`> crimsun: please read
[01:46] <FantasticFoo> can anyone please help?
[01:46] <profoX`> crimsun: i'm not "duplicating"
[01:46] <crimsun> profoX`: I have.
[01:47] <nalioth> FantasticFoo: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[01:47] <FantasticFoo> nalioth: thankyou!!!!!!!!
[01:47] <blend> guys what should i install exactly in order to listen to mp3s???
[01:47] <LostFrog> Ethernet device naming is set in /etc/iftab!!!
[01:47] <profoX`> crimsun: small fixes get releases in the repositories immediately, that should get catched by the acceptance repository before getting released (to follow the DTAP rules)
[01:47] <nalioth> !tell blend about mp3
[01:47] <LostFrog> blend: mpg123?
[01:47] <imperfect-> Anyone at all know what I can do to get X working on a ACD connected monitor?
[01:47] <blend> kindda getting lost here
[01:47] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: don't restart X with startx
[01:47] <nalioth> blend: look at your private messages
[01:48] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-133142.html
[01:48] <Thlayli> /exit
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: what is the proper way?
[01:48] <blend> k thanks
[01:48] <y0ss1_77> ty
[01:48] <crimsun> profoX`: that's what we're discussing for -proposed
[01:48] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: first, run "sudo killall gdm" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:48] <crimsun> profoX`: as in _right now_ in -devel
[01:48] <blend> thks nalioth
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: i tried that
[01:48] <blend> will check it out now
[01:48] <profoX`> crimsun: oh ._.
[01:48] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: but it gives an error
[01:48] <nalioth> FantasticFoo: try the --reinstall thing
[01:49] <profoX`> crimsun: I can join ? ;P
[01:49] <FantasticFoo> mcphail: oh well, guess i'll just use reboot
[01:49] <gnat_x> i volunteer at a public access computer center, and someon managed to break gnome prertty badly (using dapper), there's no menues, and right clicking does squat, and there's no background. i can however get into failsafe mode. any ideas?
[01:49] <FantasticFoo> nalioth: k, i will right this second
[01:49] <mcphail> FantasticFoo: startx seems to spawn rogue gdm processes which mess things up. Make sure all have been killed
[01:49] <metrom> hmm.. anyone know how to install Java JRE [1.5.0_07] ?
[01:49] <wasabi> apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:50] <metrom> thanks
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone know how to install OS X Tiger on Ubuntu?
[01:50] <nalioth> !tell metrom about java
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> !Tiger
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Tiger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: what do you mean?
[01:50] <Nameeater> HaroldJohnson: pearpc?
[01:50] <survivor> Tiger on Ubuntu? err?
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth:Hello0
[01:50] <survivor> What do you want? ^^
[01:50] <Noah0504> Okay, I'm sure this question has been asked a million times today, but has the broken xserver update been pulled?
[01:50] <HaroldJohnson> Nameeater:Hello
[01:50] <eyequeue> Noah0504, no
[01:50] <Flannel> Noah0504: a newer (fixed) version is out
[01:50] <mcphail> Noah0504: yes
[01:50] <eyequeue> Noah0504, superceded
[01:51] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[01:51] <Nameeater> HaroldJohnson, http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/ might run it, but good luck!
[01:51] <gnat_x> boken xserver? what's the symptoms.
[01:51] <eyequeue> gnat_x, /topic
[01:51] <HaroldJohnson> Nameeater:Thanks
[01:51] <mcphail> gnat_x: broken X!
[01:51] <avis> Noah0504, i'm sure by now its migrated to most mirrors -- the newer fixed replacement.  keyword: most  i found that if you take out any country code in your sources.list that you get the correct one.
[01:51] <wasabi> PearPC will probably not run it in any worthwhile way.
[01:52] <wasabi> You are better off with VMware.
[01:52] <eauxnguyen> identify
[01:52] <eauxnguyen> Gnome91
[01:52] <Noah0504> Okay, thanks guys.  I downloaded that upgrade last night and woke up to a nice surprise this morning when I tried to turn on my computer, haha.  I just figured it was something I did, so I backed up a little bit using a LiveCD and reinstalled.  I laughed when I saw the notice on the forums.
[01:52] <survivor> well first you should say if you want to run it on x86 or ppc
[01:52] <survivor> or whatever you mean by running one os on another :)
[01:52] <eyequeue> Noah0504, 10.4 is the fix
[01:53] <imperfect-> I can't even run X -configure on this powerpc box
[01:53] <Noah0504> eyequeue: Okay, thanks.
[01:54] <mcphail> Did the 10.3 version break _everyone's_ X? If so, how on earth did it get released?
[01:54] <nalioth> !tell imperfect- about xcfg
[01:54] <SonicChao> mcphail: Not everyone's. Mine runs fine.
[01:54] <eyequeue> mcphail, no, mine was fine
[01:54] <eauxnguyen> ah that is what I was checking on.  killed mine
[01:54] <Noah0504> mcphail: That's what I would like to know.
[01:54] <mcphail> SonicChao: eyequeue: what hardware are you running?
[01:55] <eauxnguyen> !tell eauxnguyen - about xcfg
[01:55] <eyequeue> mcphail, laptop here
[01:55] <SonicChao> It's a Linux distribution, they don't test this for ages before they release it.
[01:55] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater: when i do hp-toolbox it says no bash: command not found
[01:55] <imperfect-> nalioth : X -configure should probe not lock up my box.
[01:55] <SonicChao> Just chill. There is a fix.
[01:55] <y0ss1_77> how do i get the hp toolbox if it is not there
[01:55] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: Get bash.
[01:55] <SonicChao> mcphail: HP dv1411se
[01:55] <mcphail> SonicChao: it is the stable branch of the distribution. This sort of thing shouldn't happen
[01:55] <nalioth> imperfect-: i've not heard of that command.  did you read your PM from ubotu ?
[01:55] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: Or make sure it's in your $PATH variable
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> huh and huh
[01:56] <imperfect-> nalioth : might i suggest reading man X ?
[01:56] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: BASH is the Bourne Again Shell
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> brand newbian
[01:56] <y0ss1_77> yes
[01:56] <Phenax> y0ss1_77: And the $PATH variable contains paths so you don't need to type in the paths to execute, well..
[01:57] <SonicChao> mcphail: It shouldn't happen, but everyone makes mistakes. There is also no warranty, and weeks/months of testing doesn't happen.
[01:57] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: do you have a terminal open?
[01:57] <Phenax> if /lol was in $PATH, and a.oout was in /lol, then you could run a.oout by just typing a.oout :)
[01:57] <y0ss1_77> Phenax, yup
[01:57] <mcphail> SonicChao: i have never installed a piece of software which has a warranty :)
[01:58] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, yes
[01:58] <mcphail> SonicChao: ubuntu is getting a reputation for these mistakes
[01:58] <chantron> what mistakes?
[01:58] <ranunculoid> mcphail: ubuntu has a warrenty ;)
[01:58] <eyequeue> chantron, /topic
[01:58] <Noah0504> This is the only one I've ever whitnessed.
[01:58] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: does slocate hp-toolbox show /usr/bin/hp-toolbox ?
[01:58] <mcphail> chantron: broken X, passwords logged in plain text, etc
[01:58] <SonicChao> mcphail: Well, there are problems, but everyone needs to take a chill pill.
[01:58] <chantron> my bad. im a compelte noob to IRC
[01:58] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, let me check
[01:59] <eauxnguyen> it's debian after all. can't get much more reliable packages
[01:59] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, no
[01:59] <Nameeater> what ubuntu are you using?
[01:59] <dravas> to install nVidia linux drivers I need to install the restricted modules and I allready have some installed when I checked does that mean that I am find to install them?
[01:59] <y0ss1_77> dapper
[01:59] <Nameeater> wierd, I have it
[01:59] <eyequeue> ubuntu is getting a reputation for being made by HUMANs?  makes sense ;)
[02:00] <y0ss1_77> hmm
[02:00] <delire> funnily enough, such things as a broken X after upgrade are almost common with Debian testing/unstable and other branches of popular distros ;)
[02:00] <eauxnguyen> heh
[02:00] <SonicChao> eyequeue: XD
[02:00] <SonicChao> eyequeue: Made for humans, by humans.
[02:00] <eyequeue> and that human theme
[02:00] <delire> but yes, Ubuntu will have lost many clients/users as a result of this. many simply won't know what to do, or even how to search for help online about a fix.
[02:00] <danmorg> any idea why my machine running ubuntu 6.06 randomly shuts down?   its a eMachines...
[02:01] <mcphail> delire: absolutely
[02:01] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, is there a hp toolbox pkg i can get?
[02:01] <Phenax> danmorg: Maybe check your system logging utilities for.. logs?
[02:01] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77: just having a look, one mo
[02:01] <Phenax>  Most likely you might find something in /var/log/
[02:01] <delire> mcphail: so it goes. Windows has hardly a better track record. Service Packs have cut out hundreds of thousands of users at a time.
[02:01] <gimmulf> Now im tired of irssi, any gui irc client to recommend?
[02:01] <eyequeue> delire, if a user leaves over a broken package, i wonder what the user would turn to instead
[02:01] <torpedo|dog> gimmulf: x-chat
[02:02] <eyequeue> gimmulf, xchat is common
[02:02] <AdamKrier> gimmulf: xchat-gnome
[02:02] <gimmulf> oki
[02:02] <gimmulf> tnx
[02:02] <Phenax> gimmulf: I've used irssi for a few years. It's expansible, themable and overall great.
[02:02] <danmorg> Phenax: ok.  is there something i can do to prevent it?
[02:02] <Noah0504> xchat-gnome is a joke...
[02:02] <FRET> what's the command to get the ubuntu version one is using?
[02:02] <hybrid> Phenax: +2
[02:02] <Phenax> danmorg: After you find your problem there may be
[02:02] <delire> eyequeue: most people don't really like computers, and think of them as appliances. they will just move to what next works.
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: Thank you for saying that!
[02:02] <DarkMageZ> unfortunantly it's not possible to cut the humans out of the equation, tho, we could have a <version>-testing branch which would get the patches first, and then they could cry about stuff being broken before it reaches the normal <version> users :)
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: That was on the tip of my tounge....
[02:02] <Noah0504> SonicChao: haha, It's so true...
[02:02] <Rosbief> hi everybody
[02:02] <SonicChao> Noah0504: xchat-gnome is garbage.
[02:02] <mcphail> eyequeue: a broken GUI is a big deal. They could get a more comfortable user experince on Win95
[02:02] <gimmulf> Phenax:  used it for a year or so, only thing i think is great is that you can pick up a session thru screen when ssh
[02:02] <eyequeue> delire, exactly.  what do you think has zero breakages?
[02:03] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It goes along with gnome program-strip policies
[02:03] <delire> eyequeue: a piece of unbroken wood.
[02:03] <eyequeue> mcphail, as i said earlier, a broken gui is nothing major, imo
[02:03] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77, you need the package hplip
[02:03] <Phenax> gimmulf: Well, I'm the type of person that must have ALL IMPORTANT UTILITIES not depending on X, or a FB, etc.
[02:03] <Rosbief> i just installed ubunto like a hour ago but now my question is why can i enter my other partions and why cant i change the name of the hd where ubunto is installed?
[02:03] <gimmulf> ahh ok Phenax  :)
[02:03] <Noah0504> SonicChao: That would be fine, but they've really stripped it down.
[02:03] <mcphail> eyequeue: for you and me, maybe not. But the CLI is not why people are using ubuntu
[02:03] <Phenax> And in-fact most of them are much better than their gtk/qt counterparts :)
[02:03] <void^> broken gui is a final showstopper for any ordinary "humans"
[02:03] <y0ss1_77> Nameeater, so apt-get hplip?
[02:03] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get install hplip :)
[02:03] <delire> void^, mcphail: this is true
[02:03] <eyequeue> mcphail, i think guis are a waste, personally
[02:04] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's XChat -options, -interface, -tabs-by-default, -everything else.
[02:04] <eyequeue> mcphail, not to mention confusing, though i've manged to learn this one a bit
[02:04] <Phenax> Personally I think GUI's are great for particular things while CLI is great for particular things.
[02:04] <Noah0504> SonicChao: haha, Yeah, that about covers everything.
[02:04] <Rosbief> anyone a idea?
[02:04] <mcphail> eyequeue: GNOME is running a fullscreen terminal and irssi quite nicely here :)
[02:04] <Phenax> And I think the best combination is CLI with a optional GUI interface
[02:05] <eyequeue> Phenax, good for bloat, good for efficiency ;)
[02:05] <Nameeater> y0ss1_77, you may also need to apt-get the python-qt3 package as it complains about not having it when I try to run hp-toolbox
[02:05] <Malachi> How many people have come asking about the xserver break?
[02:05] <eyequeue> mcphail, irssi always runs under screen for me :)  but i'm in xchat now, as i said i've manged to figure this gui out a bit, heh
[02:05] <mcphail> Malachi: several thousand
[02:05] <satan> to hell with you all
[02:06] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with sldaemond....but the  init script doesn't start slmodemd, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:06] <satan> WHO NEEDS A BLOODY ROPE!?
[02:06] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's like running a "xchat -oite" if those are even options...
[02:06] <mcphail> eyequeue: yes, screen here as well
[02:06] <SonicChao> Noah0504: It's really crazy.
[02:06] <Malachi> Thought so. May I asked what happened? It freaked the living heck out of me.
[02:06] <SonicChao> satan: Please stop.
[02:06] <satan> OHH IS THAT RIGHT RAMBO?
[02:06] <Rosbief> Can Somone please answer me? its like i can't go trought my other partiotion drives
[02:06] <eyequeue> Malachi, /topic
[02:06] <Phenax> satan: Who's a little 12-year old who wants attention?
[02:06] <chantron> guys no offense but it sounds to me like your gui vs. cli discussion is in the wrong place. isn't ubuntu a distro meant for more or less, the common user?
[02:06] <satan> me!
[02:06] <Malachi> eyequeue: Hmm?
[02:06] <chantron> im not saying "keep on topic" or wahtever, just pointing it out
[02:06] <SonicChao> Phenax: Watch it. >>
[02:07] <mcphail> chantron: i think a debate about a broken GUI is rather topical today
[02:07] <dravas> Uhh what does this mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21443
[02:07] <chantron> true, but youre debating whether or not a GUI is useful in a distro geared towards average users
[02:07] <Rosbief> Anyone?
[02:07] <zarstar> hol
[02:07] <eyequeue> chantron, perhaps you have not been in here for the past 18 hours
[02:08] <mcphail> chantron: we're debating whether an update process which breaks X is a significant systems failure
[02:08] <michael__> Tech support anyone?
[02:08] <eyequeue> chantron, it proved how useless a gui can be
[02:08] <Rosbief> Yeah need support to but noone is answering
[02:08] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:08] <SonicChao> michael__: ?
[02:08] <Flannel> Rosbief: you need to mount the other drives to be able to read them
[02:08] <michael__> I need support too ... X won't start.
[02:08] <chantron> i see what youre saying now
[02:08] <azathoth> downgrade xorg
[02:08] <Flannel> Guys, take the GUI vs CLI (vs whatever) to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:08] <eyequeue> michael__, /topic
[02:08] <Rosbief> Flannel: doesnt mount
[02:08] <chantron> i jsut steppted into this randomly
[02:08] <SonicChao> Ok, listen.
[02:08] <mcphail> eyequeue: if a similar poorly tested patch is applied to BASH, we will all be in trouble
[02:09] <SonicChao> First of all, we are losing new users.
[02:09] <zarstar> what's C.L.I?
[02:09] <Knome> dravas: just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and comment out the dri module then change driver nv to nvidia.
[02:09] <eyequeue> mcphail, as happened to debian a while back, yeah, agreed
[02:09] <azathoth> CLI = command line interface
[02:09] <chantron> command line interface
[02:09] <zarstar> console .... interface?
[02:09] <SonicChao> You well-tuned Linux users have no problem adapting.
[02:09] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:09] <zarstar> :)
[02:09] <SonicChao> When a noob is approached with $, what's the first thing they do?
[02:09] <azathoth> spend it?
[02:09] <eyequeue> SonicChao, spend it
[02:09] <SonicChao> Simple: they come here
[02:09] <mainer> apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges:))
[02:09] <galago> When attempting to copy data into a samba share with nautilus I get an error "not a directory".  Maybe because the path has a $ which is converted into %24 ?
[02:09] <SonicChao> eyequeue: Very funny.
[02:10] <w30> I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course
[02:10] <galago> I'm able to see files in the share and navigate through the folders, but I can't create files or folders nor can I copy data
[02:10] <mcphail> Flannel: this is not a GUI vs CLI debate
[02:10] <Rosbief> Flannel: It won't mounnt! and i don't know why
[02:10] <michael__> mainer, was that to me?
[02:10] <galago> when running in the console I get ** Message: Hit unexpected error "Not a directory" while doing a file operation.
[02:10] <Noah0504> What
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:10] <mainer> michael__: to anyone
[02:10] <SonicChao> I meant you@box:~$
[02:10] <Flannel> mcphail: right, but whatever it is, it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not directly support related
[02:10] <_azrael__> Question: When I check my env, there is a variable called PANTS. Does anyone know what this is for/what it does?
[02:10] <lophyte> anyone know where I can download additional gnome panel applets?
 SonicChao, spend it
 Simple: they come here
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> oops
[02:10] <Noah0504> Opps... What's that best option for MSN and webcams.  I've tried aMSN, but it the webcam is really choppy... like a frame a minute, haha.
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> i have a quick question, im planning on setting upa hdd with a win partition a ubuntu partition and a shared files partition, its a 250gigbyte hdd, how big does the ubuntu partition need to be, i jsut want to run all the nix programs and the os on it, all multimedia nad stuff will be on the shared partition
[02:11] <mcphail> Flannel: have you been on the channel today?? X has broken for many users. That is both on topic and topical.
[02:11] <michael__> mainer, but was it regarding the X-won't-start bug issue?
[02:11] <rmd> Jamminpotato: don't waste your time with a shared partition
[02:11] <eyequeue> and even on /topic, heh
[02:11] <Jamminpotato> rmd, why?
[02:11] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: As much as you want it to be? 2gb minimum I'd say
[02:11] <rmd> because you can download a tiny program that will let you access your linux partition, and ubuntu comes with built-in read access on NTFS
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, dang ok im so used to needing 8 gigs to be safe with xp, wow, wow, linux rocks
[02:12] <eyequeue> Jamminpotato, don't use ntfs for the shared partition btw
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> rmd, but ubuntu cant right to ntfs can it
[02:12] <mainer> michael__: yes,it's not 100% foolproof,but lists open bugs,done=fixed bugs,listchanges does what it says,you can install via synaptic,downgrade the xorg for a fix
[02:12] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: With other distros I've been able to stick it on less than 100mb, not with much software of course
[02:12] <Phenax> FAT32 can be read and written by Windows and Linux
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> eyequeue, i was planning on vfat or fat32?
[02:12] <SonicChao> Jamminpotato: No, it can't.
[02:13] <eyequeue> Jamminpotato, they supposedly are okay, yes
[02:13] <rmd> Jamminpotato: no, it can't.  but if you're just sharing media, it doesn't matter.
[02:13] <w30> I got my GUI user interface by typing at a console "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core" leaving out the quotes of course
[02:13] <michael__> mainer: How do I use synaptic if I can't get into X?
[02:13] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: There are EXT2/3 drivers for Windows, and full r/w NTFS drivers for Linux
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> what would be your recommended fs for a shared partition
[02:13] <mcphail> w30: yes, it has been fixed now
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> or should i forgoe it completely
[02:13] <eyequeue> michael__, read the url at the /topic, apt-get works fine
[02:13] <rmd> Jamminpotato: fat32 for your shared partition, if you insist on complicating it in that way
[02:13] <michael__> eyequeue: Thanks
[02:13] <acidian> can I get a tip for a good irc app for ubuntu?
[02:13] <jordan_> after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?
[02:13] <Jamminpotato> acidian, xchat
[02:13] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: So, FAT32, EXT2, or NTFS would probably be your best bet
[02:13] <jordan_> acidian, irssi and xchat
[02:13] <eyequeue> acidian, irssi and xchat are popular
[02:14] <acidian> Im testing xchat right now, but I dont like it that much
[02:14] <acidian> hmm
[02:14] <rmd> acidian: irssi, bitchx
[02:14] <michael__> I use Gaim for everything, including IRC
[02:14] <acidian> I was looking at gaim
[02:14] <eyequeue> acidian, irssi happens to be my favorite, but may not be yours
[02:14] <michael__> I know a lot of people who prefer xchat though
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> i dont like gaim for irc
[02:14] <michael__> I'll be glad when Gaim gives a final release of 2.0.0
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> how good and fast are the windows tools for righting to ext3? and similarly how good are the linux tools for r/w ing on to ntfs?
[02:14] <acidian> I dont like not having list of people in the channel
[02:14] <acidian> anyway to fix that?
[02:14] <eyequeue> acidian, faim works, but is not featureful for irc, it seems rather clumsy
[02:15] <jordan_> when i am connected to a vpn i lose my xchat connection, is there a reason for that?
[02:15] <eyequeue> acidian, gaim
[02:15] <bkudria> rmd: which "tiny program" allows one to access ext3 in windows?
[02:15] <rmd> Jamminpotato: windows writing to ext is no problem at all.  but linux writing to NTFS has been known to cause physical errors on the disk
[02:15] <acidian> I remember bitchx of old, wasnt realy that good
[02:15] <imperfect-> Man
[02:15] <mainer> michael__: live-cd probly would be easiest
[02:15] <imperfect-> that is some WEIRD stuff
[02:15] <dravas> Knome I dont have nv in my xorg.conf
[02:15] <acidian> this is my first time installing and using linux myself though
[02:15] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: They're not full r/w speed, or fully stable.. but they work. The ext2 drivers for Windows I heard weren't bad, same goes for NTFS for Linux
[02:15] <jane_d_mook> I need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..
[02:15] <imperfect-> the only way I can get myu LCD to work
[02:15] <rmd> bkudria: i don't remember off the top of my head.  google ext3 xp or something.
[02:15] <Jamminpotato> rmd, so i should make the extra space ext3?
[02:15] <imperfect-> is 8bpp
[02:15] <bkudria> rmd: ok, thanks...
[02:15] <bkudria> i'm trying to get my winmodem working with slmodemd....but the  init script doesn't start the slmodemd proccess, and if i start it manually ("sudo slmodemd --alsa -c USA hw:0,0"), everything works!  how can i fix it?
[02:16] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Although NTFS r/w for Linux is quite new.. but not that unstable/slow
[02:16] <Jamminpotato> hmm...im thinking a shard vfat or fat 32 will be easiest for me
[02:16] <eyequeue> acidian, though i also dislike bx, if you dislike it, you may not like irssi
[02:16] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Likely
[02:16] <rmd> Jamminpotato: i would make it fat32 would be better for you because windows wont need any additional sofware and linux wont have any issues, either
[02:16] <acidian> eyequeue,  Ill give it a try
[02:16] <mainer> michathen chroot to the hdd,partiton with ubuntu run apt-get or aptitude remove xorg,then re-install the old
[02:16] <FTMichael> Someone remind me how to list the channels on a given server?  I tried /list and got nothing
[02:16] <eyequeue> FTMichael, which client?
[02:16] <jordan_> after connecting to a file server via vpnc, how do i access the files?
[02:17] <Phenax> FTMichael: The server may not support or, your client may not support it, or it may be going to a different window
[02:17] <FTMichael> irssi
[02:17] <Jamminpotato> what is the max partition size for a fat32 partition?
[02:17] <FTMichael> I'm in irssi currently.
[02:17] <Knome> dravas: ok...what is there?
[02:17] <Phenax> FTMichael: Try going to the server's window/
[02:17] <eyequeue> FTMichael, /list should work then, on this network
[02:17] <Knome> dravas: under Section Device, Driver
[02:17] <mcphail> FTMichael: freenode somtimes refuse to /list if the servers are busy
[02:17] <Phenax> Plus you have to do /list -YES
[02:17] <dravas>  Identifier "Generic Video Card "Driver "vesa"	BusID "PCI:0:5:0"
[02:18] <acidian> ok, so Ive been trying to play back a video file, and in windows I always install codecs to get videos working, and Im guessing its the same here with linux
[02:18] <w30> list will give an error of server is too busy to do that sometimes
[02:18] <Knome> dravas: what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[02:18] <acidian> so ayone know a good codec package?
[02:18] <Stargazers> Is there any programs like DigiKam, F-Spot or like that BUT which has IPTC-support? I mean, XnView has it but it is totally too ugly to use :(
[02:18] <cello_rasp> has anyone compared blackdown java to the official sun ubuntu java package yet?
[02:18] <Stargazers> I would be very thankfully if you can help
[02:18] <Phenax> dravas: Change the "Driver" line to "nv" instead of "vesa"
[02:18] <Flannel> cello_rasp: blackdown doesn't work with some java programs
[02:18] <jordan_> !codec
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <Stargazers> I personally love DigiKam, but there is no IPTC support
[02:19] <cello_rasp> im convinced the official sun package is bloated and slow in comparison
[02:19] <eyequeue> !mp3 > jordan_
[02:19] <dravas> ok Phenax
[02:19] <jordan_> acidian, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:19] <w30> acidian, in synaptic search type codecs
[02:19] <Flannel> Jamminpotato:  a few TB.
[02:19] <Rondom> !Restricted Formats
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Restricted Formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <eyequeue> jordan_, i think that's the factoid you wanted
[02:19] <Phenax> dravas: Of course, that's for the open source nvidia drivers with no 3d support.
[02:19] <Jamminpotato> Flannel, but isnt there a 4gig max single file thing?
[02:19] <Phenax> dravas: If your looking for 3d support, get the official nvidia drivers and then change the line to "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[02:19] <dravas> knome I have a nVidia Geforce 6100 intergrated
[02:19] <Jamminpotato> 4gig max file size would be a pain in the arsinic
[02:19] <dravas> ok Phenax
[02:19] <jordan_> eyequeue, yes thanks
[02:20] <Flannel> Jamminpotato: right
[02:20] <saiko> how do i blank an cd-rw ?
[02:20] <saiko> using cdrdao & cdrecord gives me an error Error trying to open /dev/cdrw exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[02:20] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I suggest you make it EXT2 or NTFS depending on if your going to use Linux or Windows more
[02:20] <verbose> i tried using fglrx drivers and they messed up my system, so i removed all the installed fglrx packages and restored my original(working) xorg.conf
[02:20] <superjew9020> im a newb and this is probably an easy question but wat is a hoary CD??
[02:20] <ubuntu> i just did a update and now i cant get back in to ubuntu????
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> if only ntfs were more open and easier to write to
[02:20] <verbose> but when i startx i get EE no devices detected
[02:20] <verbose> any suggestions?
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> or if only microsoft embraced thigns like ext3 more
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> WHY?
[02:20] <eyequeue> superjew9020, the precious version of ubuntu
[02:20] <Jamminpotato> why mr.gates why
[02:20] <Flannel> ubuntu: read the topic
[02:20] <superjew9020> oooo
[02:20] <acidian> jordan_, thanks :)
[02:20] <Noah0504> exit
[02:21] <superjew9020> thanks
[02:21] <Noah0504> Opps
[02:21] <jordan_> acidian, any time
[02:21] <Jamminpotato> whats the difference between ext2 and ext3
[02:21] <eyequeue> superjew9020, no wait, one beofre that
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I'd say just drop Windows.. I've done it a few years ago without regret.. meh
[02:21] <jordan_> anyone know how to view the files on a file server?
[02:21] <ubuntu> no screans
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Journaling, b-tree hashing (Optional), not much really
[02:21] <eyequeue> superjew9020, hoary then breezy now dapper (and then edgy)
[02:21] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: You can mount EXT3 as EXT2 and convert EXT2 to EXT3
[02:21] <eyequeue> ubuntu, /topic
[02:21] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, ido lan parties and gaming somewhat regularly so the windows box makes things easier
[02:21] <ikaruga> i followed the instructions to set up php, but it does not work
[02:21] <ikaruga> help....
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> will ext2 or ext 3 be easier to deal with from windows
[02:22] <SonicChao> Jamminpotato: I thought I'd need Windows for a long time, I dropped it and never came back and it made my Linux experience much more enjoyable.
[02:22] <SonicChao> !php
[02:22] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Oh, there's a lot of nice games for Linux -- Quake 1-4, Doom 1-3, all UT, and a bunch of others for commercial games.. but I don't suppose you play em :)
[02:22] <w30> how do I tell what ubuntu version I have installed?
[02:22] <eyequeue> !version
[02:22] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, i play ut2k4 but my main game is CS:S
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Not to mention hundreds of free/open source games.. I'm a regular gamers and always on UNIX
[02:22] <Joseph> I have a hard drive set up with 3 partitions that I know of: Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux and a FAT32 Files partition which holds all my files so i can access them from both operating systems. I recently reinstalled Windows XP and now do not get the option to choose which operating system to boot when I start up. What do I do?
[02:22] <Jamminpotato> or else i would drop windows
[02:22] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Well, if that's your only game with a dependancy in Windows, it runs quite well in WINE
[02:22] <SonicChao> w30: System --> About Ubuntu
[02:22] <ikaruga> ubotu: those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about those were the instructions that I followed. They didn't work for me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <w30> ubotu, thanks :=)
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :=) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <Knome> dravas: well you could try the nvidia driver by changing 'vesa' to 'nvidia' but I have no idea if it'll work or not you might want to copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to your home directory so you can overwrite the file with the old copy if it doesn't work *don't forget to restart X after altering the file*
[02:22] <Ross_> SonicChaap, I personally recommend Xampp
[02:23] <Warbo> !grub > Joseph
[02:23] <ubuntu> wtf is goning on wit dis
[02:23] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I've fully ran Steam and all related games with Windows-like performance many times.
[02:23] <SonicChao> ubuntu: what?
[02:23] <cello_rasp> Ross_ xampp is badly organised. but initially acessible.
[02:23] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, plus i need that sercurity blanket of winXP, it jsut makes me feel like as crappy as it is at least i know what to do wit h that pile of crap
[02:23] <profoX`> Ross_: xampp doesnt automatically get updates from apt-get so i would say normal lamp installation would be better
[02:23] <saiko> people, how do you blank your cd-rw's ?
[02:23] <ikaruga> w30: uh, I think ubotu is a bot
[02:23] <Flannel> ubuntu: there was a bad package, the new one should be updated and in the repositories, read the topic, go to that link, for more information
[02:23] <jordan_> does anyone here find that beagle isn't really all it is cracked up to be?
[02:23] <Ross_> mmm
[02:23] <Warbo> saiko: I use GnomeBaker
[02:24] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: There are options you can enable a much more secure 'security blanket' in UNIX :)
[02:24] <Ross_> i'm new....xampp worked out of the box very easily
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> jordan_, refresh me what is breagle again?
[02:24] <mcphail> jordan_: yes, it is a resource hog
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, haha nice, but you know what i mean
[02:24] <rkd> Jamminpotato: a desktop search mechanism
[02:24] <Stargazers> ->
[02:24] <cello_rasp> Ross_ once you get into mysql you'll want to install the LAMP from Ubuntu
[02:24] <w30> ikaruga, duh....
[02:24] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: well, if you decide to switch over feel free to ask me for support - I've been operating UNIX systems for years now and know most of my things.
[02:24] <ubuntu> i have 6.06 or what ever and i cant log in it says cant find screans
[02:24] <Warbo> jordan_: I couldn't get it to return results from my Home dir :(
[02:24] <saiko> Warbo: i see it's not in ubuntu by default
[02:24] <xnull192> any ideea how can I stop sending emails from my box to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>? I got sendmail
[02:24] <Warbo> !info gnomebaker
[02:24] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 862 kB, installed size 2640 kB
[02:24] <mcphail> jordan_: i have found all mono apps perform badly
[02:25] <cello_rasp> what's a really lightweight browser?
[02:25] <saiko> Warbo: thx, on it
[02:25] <Joseph> Thank you Warbo
[02:25] <profoX`> ubuntu: log into the terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update
[02:25] <profoX`> ubuntu: it should fix it
[02:25] <Joseph> Thanks a lot
[02:25] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: Dillo.
[02:25] <Flannel> cello_rasp: Dillo
[02:25] <eyequeue> cello_rasp, cli?  gui?
[02:25] <HeathenDan> dillo is lightweight
[02:25] <Phenax> cello_rasp: lynx, links, dillo
[02:25] <dravas> Phenax how do I restart xserv?
[02:25] <Warbo> I have installed tracker, but it's deskbar integration is pretty pointless for me
[02:25] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: sudo apt-get install dillo elinks
[02:25] <ToHellWithGA> if anybody here knows something about plumbing i'd love some help in #plumbing
[02:25] <cello_rasp> Dillo looks like rubbish and doesn't work at all well.
[02:25] <ubuntu> i am on live cd right now
[02:25] <profoX`> dillo is gtk1 ? :x
[02:25] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, thanks, people like you are one of the reasons i really like linux and moreso ubuntu, cause a lot of other distros dont have such helpful support
[02:25] <Warbo> since deskbar forces a white background for my theme's white fonts :(
[02:25] <jane_d_mook> I need help fixing the screen res on Kubuntu... that channel needs some help..
[02:25] <mcphail> cello_rasp: that's why you need a heavyweight browser
[02:25] <cello_rasp> dillo was hilariously broken on 5.10 in fact
[02:25] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I've only used Ubuntu for 15-minutes and then I totally dropped it.. Lol
[02:26] <SonicChao> cello_rasp: It's the best light-weight browser. I personally use Firefox.
[02:26] <eyequeue> Warbo, file a bug yet?
[02:26] <jordan_> Warbo, i couldn't get it to find my sources.list file
[02:26] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: I just offer support for all distros -- they're a like a lot so I can give support for most of them
[02:26] <HeathenDan> i personally use opera
[02:26] <cello_rasp> mcphail... larger memeory footprint != better programming
[02:26] <jordan_> how do you access files on a file server
[02:26] <_tcc> Can someone help me set up aircrack on this massive piece of garbage?
[02:26] <Warbo> eyequeue: Actually I have been scouring all of the .py files I can find, looking for the damn beckground section :)
[02:26] <dravas> Phenax how do you restart X
[02:26] <_tcc> http://www.turkeyfarm.net/blog/2006/06/22/cracking-wep-with-linux-actually-works/
[02:26] <SonicChao> _tcc: What?
[02:26] <_tcc> I am following that tutorial.
[02:26] <Phenax> dravas: ctrl+alt+backspace I believe
[02:27] <mcphail> cello_rasp: you have asked for something which looks and works better. Dillo looks lousy and works badly because it is a compromise on all fronts
[02:27] <Jamminpotato> Phenax, i mean comparing the irc rooms
[02:27] <_tcc> When I try to build it I get Makefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build does not exist.  Stop.
[02:27] <dravas> ok
[02:27] <_tcc> Why the hell is this?
[02:27] <SonicChao> dravas: Control+Alt+Backspace
[02:27] <SonicChao> !language > _tcc
[02:27] <w30> ToHellWithGA, plumbing is easy if you have a pocket full of cash, enough gas and do your work when the store is open.
[02:27] <_tcc> Heh, I try and keep it family friendly.
[02:27] <eyequeue> Warbo, if you find it, do let them know so others can benefit :) (a bug with a patch is always nice, heh)
[02:27] <Warbo> _tcc: You need linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386
[02:28] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: Ahhh, the channel I usually hang out for the distro I use always has active moderators/developers helping people out. It's not big at all but it's quite nice.
[02:28] <Warbo> eyequeue: I have been programming Python for just over a week, so I feel a patch might do more harm than good :)
[02:28] <eyequeue> Warbo, lol
[02:28] <Phenax> Jamminpotato: But I agree, #ubuntu is quite nice.. mostly newb-helping-newb action, but that's good :)
[02:28] <ToHellWithGA> w30: are you any good with toilets? troubleshooting, not usage
[02:28] <eyequeue> Warbo, bug fixing is great for learning though, applause
[02:29] <_tcc> Warbo. thanks man\
[02:29] <Joseph> I have two partitions and I'm not sure which one is the Ubuntu Linux one... the ext3 or the ntfs?
[02:29] <Phenax> Joseph: ext3
[02:29] <w30> ToHellWithGA, google for Thomas J. Krapper
[02:29] <HeathenDan> ext3
[02:29] <Joseph> thank you
[02:29] <eyequeue> Joseph, the former
[02:29] <dsch04> Hi, can anyone point me at docs on howto install a Freecom DVB-T USB stick on 6.06 ?
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: You can most likely just mount it.
[02:30] <Warbo> ToHellWithGA: If it's toilet HUMOUR you're after, then I'm your man :)
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: You'll need the device name and filesystem type.
[02:30] <dsch04> Phenax: NO, it's a DVB-T tunder, not a storage device!
[02:30] <dsch04> (tuner)
[02:30] <Phenax> dsch04: No idea what that is xD
[02:30] <jaakkos> Phenax: ntfs is most likely used by windows. microsoft isn't releasing any info on the drive system, and by default ubuntu can only read the contents of your windows (ntfs) -drive. writing might cause serious problem with the partition, though for most people it works ok
[02:31] <w30> ToHellWithGA, er, google for Thomas J. Crapper
[02:31] <Phenax> jaakkos: Writing doesn't work at all unless your replacing something in a file that results to the same exact size. ntfs-3g (Kernel module) supports full r/w (Not fully stable) and Captive NTFS offers a slow interface into it..
[02:31] <__mikem> Thomas J. Crapper, he invented the toilet
[02:31] <dsch04> Phenax: http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=2234&CatID=&sCatID=
[02:32] <bkoby> Where are the .deb files from APT stored?
[02:32] <jaakkos> okay.
[02:32] <bimberi> bkoby: /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:32] <HeathenDan> /var/cache/
[02:32] <profoX`> Phenax: ntfs-3g looks promising, captive-ntfs doesnt seem to be that good/stable at all, even though it uses the ntfs.sys
[02:32] <bkoby> bimberi: thanks!
[02:32] <HeathenDan> or that
[02:32] <SonicChao> bkoby: Tell me if you figure it out
[02:33] <bimberi> bkoby: np :)
[02:33] <jordan_> my favorite way to set up a dualboot is windows on ntfs partition, linux ext3, swap, and a large fat32 "media" partition with all of the files i want accessed by both
[02:33] <d_> is there a way to install grub mamually?
[02:33] <bimberi> !grub
[02:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:33] <SonicChao> d_: I would believe so
[02:33] <w30> __mikem, my biggest ambition in life is to have a bodily function named after me, like spit or anyyhing  :=)
[02:33] <bruenig> !patience > bruenig
[02:33] <profoX`> jordan_: yea although windows can read/write ext3 too with additional programs, and then you have journalling :)
[02:34] <NewtoUbuntu> Hey any1 here running arkhart on dapperdrake?
[02:34] <thedash> it apparently didn't recognize my win install, so it didn't install itself
[02:34] <eauxnguyen> I need to go w30 lol
[02:34] <Phenax> thedash: You'll have to edit the grub configuration.. I don't use GRUB but someone can help you with that.. maybe even the intarweb
[02:34] <Phenax> bbiab
[02:34] <jaakkos> and Phenax, the message was intended for joseph of course... who in addition had already quitted, so i guess it's time for me to go crouch in the corner :)
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> Any1 here running the game arkhart on dapperdrake?
[02:35] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, ask your question
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[02:35] <Phenax> jaakkos: Lol, I figured that but I like typing responses :D
[02:35] <jaakkos> :)
[02:35] <NewtoUbuntu> i need help runnign arkhart can any1 tell me how i run it i have already installed it
[02:35] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me changing the rights on a folder on hdb1?
[02:35] <saiko> i like gnome-baker
[02:35] <dravas> yay
[02:35] <Jbirk> Hi
[02:36] <Jbirk> How do I install and use wine?
[02:36] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, open a terminal and try arkhart
[02:36] <Flannel> Zambezi: where is hdb1 mounted?
[02:36] <bruenig> !wine
[02:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> like type .arkhart?
[02:36] <Zambezi> Flannel, /mnt/hdb1
[02:36] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, type "arkhart"
[02:36] <w30> eauxnguyen, In 50 years no one will remember Warren Buffet but after 150 years ole' Tomas J. is still being appealed to. ha
[02:36] <eauxnguyen> thanks for the x fix to all involved
[02:36] <FantasticFoo> whoohoo, finally got X working after that horrid update
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> command not found
[02:36] <Zambezi> Jbirk, sudo apt-get install wine is the beginning.
[02:36] <NewtoUbuntu> bruenig
[02:36] <eauxnguyen> hah
[02:37] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu...
[02:37] <NewtoUbuntu> yes?
[02:37] <Sarra_> I have a question
[02:37] <bruenig> you said my name
[02:37] <NewtoUbuntu> i said command not found
[02:37] <Sarra_> Is there a way to get Owner privs for a VFat partition?
[02:38] <bruenig> newtoubuntu, I am installing it now. I will see
[02:38] <eyequeue> Sarra_, man chown
[02:38] <NewtoUbuntu> ok thank u
[02:38] <Sarra_> chown has not worked
[02:38] <Warbo> Can I add attachments to launchpad bug reports (like a screenshot to illustrate the problem)?
[02:38] <Flannel> Sarra_: you need to change the umask
[02:38] <profoX`> Sarra_: yea sure you have to add options:
[02:38] <NewtoUbuntu> let me know after u have installed it please
[02:38] <profoX`> like umask=000
[02:38] <mrmojo> Hello
[02:38] <Sarra_> Okay
[02:38] <mrmojo> How does one pass an SSH password into the SSH command
[02:38] <profoX`> Sarra_: do you mount manually or through fstab ?
[02:39] <eyequeue> mrmojo, unwise, don't
[02:39] <mrmojo> and why would that be.
[02:39] <Sarra_> The drive is always mounted, unless I unmout it using umount
[02:39] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, I installed it via sudo apt-get install arkhart, I assume you did the same. And it was in the games menu under applications
[02:39] <w30> Sarra_, if your window has mounted it. it will be read only. Go to a console and unmout it and remount it from console.
[02:39] <eyequeue> mrmojo, man ssh for syntax etc, but it will show up in your ~/.bash_history if it is on the command line
[02:39] <NewtoUbuntu> no but i will do it that way
[02:39] <natural20> Certain webpages won't load for me, I've used FF, Epiphany, and Opera.  I know the pages work because I've tried them on different comps.  Any Ideas?
[02:39] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, how did you install it
[02:39] <Sarra_> w30: I've done that repeatedly, and it won't let me change anything on that partition
[02:39] <profoX`> Sarra_: please do: cat /etc/fstab and post the contents on www.pastebin.ca
[02:40] <mrmojo> i've looked at the manpages and i can't seem to figure a way out
[02:40] <rofl0r> how can i change back the language of ubuntu to english ? the german translations of many apps make them unusable
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> has anybody messed with XGL in here?
[02:40] <bruenig> natural20, give me a link to one such page
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> and compiz
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> i just ran the install.sh file
[02:40] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: whats wrong
[02:40] <eyequeue> mrmojo, perhaps you are looking for authorized_keys?
[02:40] <Flannel> FantasticFoo: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:40] <thedash> could somebody share with me what their winxp entry in grub looks like?
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> ill install it like u did
[02:40] <NewtoUbuntu> thank u
[02:40] <Sarra_> Okay, thanks profoX`
[02:40] <FantasticFoo> Flannel: oh, cool!
[02:40] <mrmojo> No. I want to do something like --password mypass
[02:40] <eyequeue> mrmojo, the -i switch is safe, in that circumstance
[02:40] <mrmojo> Ok.
[02:40] <natural20> bruenig, they are pages you need to be logged in or a member of, such as MyEbay or Yahoo Groups message boards.
[02:40] <bruenig> NewtoUbuntu, you should try to install as much as you can from the repositories. You can do that graphically in synaptic. System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager, or you can do it from the command line with apt-get
[02:41] <profoX`> FantasticFoo: I think #xgl has more people and most people there seem to use ubuntu anyway ;)
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, you don't want that, for the reason mentioned
[02:41] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: oh... ok!
[02:41] <cynical> thedash: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[02:41] <mrmojo> Believe me, I do. Is there a way to do it?
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, the authors say you don't, hence won't write it :)
[02:41] <NewtoUbuntu> ok
[02:41] <mrmojo> So no?
[02:41] <eyequeue> mrmojo, right
[02:41] <mrmojo> Shitty.
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, no, it is for your own good
[02:42] <bruenig> natural20, can you give me a link. Because those pages might not display for a variety of reasons. The fact that you have to be logged into or a member of them would not affect thier ability to be displayed
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, what exactly do you need to accomplish?
[02:42] <mrmojo> No, it really isn't. I'm not a baby, I know what I'm doing. I want to automatically sftp the rsa password file to the remote server
[02:42] <natural20> bruenig, http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/epicduels/messages
[02:42] <profoX`> Sarra_: to mount manually you have to add -o umask=000, and if you want it to be done automatically you have to put the option "umask=000" in your /etc/fstab // if you don't know how, type: "cat /etc/fstab" and post the output of that command on www.pastebin.ca
[02:42] <eyequeue> mrmojo, why not use -i and a key?
[02:43] <xange> if you knew what you were doing then is there a point in asking for help?
[02:43] <mrmojo> Well, how do I do that keeping in mind that I have never connected to this server before?
[02:43] <FantasticFoo> profoX`: i'll be in #xgl then, i guess
[02:43] <bruenig> natural20, what is not displaying on that, The top part (I ask because there is a flash animation there) or the entire page just won't load?
[02:43] <eyequeue> mrmojo, do you have an account on it, first?
[02:43] <mrmojo> Yes. With a password. That is it. I want to automatically set up a way to SFTP some files without any user intervention.
[02:44] <Jordan> I am having problems following these instructions http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[02:44] <eyequeue> mrmojo, ssh-keygen locally, then scp that file ... it will prompt for the passphrase
[02:44] <eternalswd> is anyone else having trouble accessing ubuntuforums.org?
[02:44] <Jordan> Yes I am
[02:44] <mrmojo> Prompt as in I have to type  the passphrase?
[02:44] <eyequeue> mrmojo, then append that to authorized_keys, such as this, if you need the help (don't be insulted)
[02:44] <Jordan> Now it's back I think ( Ubuntuforums.org)
[02:44] <cynical> eternalswd: I've been having problems all day
[02:45] <barikoki> Buenas noches!
[02:45] <profoX`> ubuntuforums is very slow so I think it's just a bad server/connection --> too many people visiting ubuntuforums
[02:45] <barikoki> Alguien puede ayudarme con el tema de las particiones?
[02:45] <mrmojo> eyequeue: does this at any point involve me having to type the password?
[02:45] <natural20> bruenig, without fail i can get to that page, but once i start to navigate portions not available to the public, the page fails to load.
[02:45] <eyequeue> mrmojo, ssh to the remote host, then: cat yourkeyfile >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[02:45] <Joseph> when asked to choose one of "dev/discs/disc0/partX" how do I know which partition has Ubuntu on?
[02:45] <Joseph> i know it is hda3 if that helps
[02:45] <swarm> ubuntu forums seems to work fine for me
[02:45] <Jordan> The Ubuntu forums slow down probably has to do with the xserver problems
[02:45] <eyequeue> mrmojo, if you ssh into the remote host, then yes, you type the passphrase the once (then you can disable it)
[02:45] <istealyermp3s> O:
[02:46] <eyequeue> mrmojo, and yes, also for that first scp
[02:46] <profoX`> Joseph: disc 0 part 2 I think
[02:46] <ikaruga> anyone know how to troubleshoot PHP?
[02:46] <Joseph> you... think? :P
[02:46] <orbin> Joseph: what's asking you that?
[02:46] <Jordan> I can't get internet in a chroot ( I need to to follow instructions posted here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453)
[02:46] <infamouse> i'm trying to mount a windows share and i'm recieving this error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //Beast/Music, missing codepage or other error".  I'm following exactly how the ubuntu guide tells me to do it, so what's wrong?
[02:46] <profoX`> Joseph: yea, i mean, thats the way grub does it with (hdx,y)
[02:47] <profoX`> and since it says disc 0
[02:47] <Zambezi> Flannel, Could you help me?
[02:47] <profoX`> it starts with 0 there too
[02:47] <vdepizzol> ubuntu edgy will come with what version of gaim?
[02:47] <profoX`> so I suppose part is y-1
[02:47] <Joseph> i am recovering GRUB after installing windows, and it asks me to choose my Ubuntu partition
[02:47] <profoX`> Joseph: I'd go for disc 0 part 2 :P
[02:47] <KenSentMe> vdepizzol: 2.0
[02:47] <Sarra_> I think I added the umask to fstab right
[02:47] <vdepizzol> KenSentMe: hmm.. ok
[02:47] <Joseph> ok, ill get one other persons say on it, before i do anything :P
[02:47] <natural20> so if i lead my message with someone's name, does irc highlight the message for that person?
[02:48] <profoX`> Sarra_: then umount the partition and type "sudo mount -a"
[02:48] <profoX`> Joseph: ok ;)
[02:48] <Sarra_> Ooh, glad I looked at it again, I made a typo
[02:48] <Joseph> orbin: do you know which partition will be the ubuntu one, then?
[02:48] <orbin> Joseph: he's right.
[02:48] <Joseph> oh ok
[02:48] <Joseph> thank you!
[02:48] <Joseph> lots!
[02:49] <orbin> Joseph: if / is on hda3 ...it'll be (hd0,2)
[02:49] <Joseph> yes thank you
[02:49] <KenSentMe> natural20: yes, and most irc chat programs have a autotype function, type the first letters of a name and press tab to complete the name
[02:49] <NewtoUbuntu> Bruenig, i have decided this game would run better on my ubuntu labtop so could u tell me hwo to uninstall it form this computer using the command line?
[02:49] <orbin> grub counts from zero like profoX` said
[02:50] <Jordan> Can anyone help me? # sudo ifup eth0
[02:50] <Jordan> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:50] <Sarra_> No workie
[02:50] <profoX`> orbin: yea grub, but i wasn't sure about the /dev/discs/disc0/partX - i suppose it starts part with 0 too because disc start with 0
[02:50] <profoX`> Sarra_: post the output of "cat /etc/fstab" on www.pastebin.ca
[02:51] <Sarra_> I think I will
[02:51] <Sarra_> Thanks
[02:51] <Jordan> sorry ifup eth0 gives me the error "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:51] <Jordan> "
[02:51] <ubuntu> i'm back didnt work sudo app/get update
[02:52] <argument> i've got an issue with my network freezing while using bittorrent - my router actually stops responding when I ping it's IP. if I shutdown the computer *and* power off the router... then power the router back on and then power my computer back on, network comes back just fine
[02:52] <NewtoUbuntu> Can any1 here tell me how to uninstall a game via the command line?
[02:52] <argument> but if I *just* power off the router and power it back on
[02:52] <argument> no amount of /etc/init.d/networking restart will actually unfreeze the network
[02:52] <profoX`> ubuntu: you mean: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:52] <profoX`> right?
[02:52] <argument> i still can't ping my router's IP
[02:52] <profoX`> Sarra_: so?
[02:52] <james_xxx> i am using a linksys wusb54g v.4 wireless adapter in kubuntu 6.06.1. i have it working, however... my computer occasionally locks up when i am surfing the internet, and i have to reboot. also, if the computer is left idle for a periiod of several hours, it often locks up and has to be rebooted. i do not know if these issues are even connected to the use of this wireless adapter....
[02:52] <swarm_> Does anyone know how to resume a torrent using the lynx torrent system?
[02:52] <profoX`> Sarra_: have you posted it on pastebin.ca
[02:52] <ubuntu> it says fatal server error no screens found
[02:52] <argument> is there any possibility there might be some ROM settings or something getting screwed up? can I flush my network card somehow?
[02:52] <james_xxx> i am looking at an ubuntu forum on the wusb54g wireless adapter (not the one i used to get mine working), and the person who wrote it has blacklisted some modules that i did not blacklist, so i am wondering if that might be an issue?
[02:53] <argument> swarm_, torrents auto resume by default
[02:53] <ubuntu> /usr/share/x11/fonts/cyrillic
[02:53] <profoX`> ubuntu: yea it was a wrong package. did you try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:53] <argument> swarm, i just use btdownloadcurses, if the folder is there it first checks the files to see what's been downloaded then keeps downloading from there
[02:53] <profoX`> ubuntu: that exact command?
[02:53] <swarm_> k
[02:53] <Jordan> I am new to IRC, is nobody responding to me because nobody knows how to help?
[02:53] <argument> swarm_, the gui's have been rather unstable for me
[02:54] <Sarra_> profoX`: I just did a few moments ago
[02:54] <argument> Jordan, there could be any number of reasons: moral of the story is "present your problem and wait"
[02:54] <swarm_> when using mininova, it gives u a www.mininova.org/get/32144
[02:54] <profoX`> Sarra_: welll... post me the link? ;) so i can look at it.. that was the point of pastebin
[02:54] <argument> Jordan, if it doesn't work, come back in a few hours
[02:54] <bruenig> is there any significance to where you put the .exe's when you are using wine. Should you put them in the appropriate part of the .wine directory or does it matter?
[02:54] <swarm_> how do u get a .torrent out of that?
[02:54] <Sarra_> http://pastebin.ca/145474
[02:54] <argument> swarm_, you download it
[02:54] <profoX`> Sarra_: thanks
[02:55] <Sarra_> Sure
[02:55] <Joseph> orbin: I tried to use part 2 but the background went red and gave me an error
[02:55] <bruenig> swarm, are you sure there is a torrent there. It may have been deleted
[02:55] <swarm_> brandon_, that was example
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: are you restoring it after a windows install or something?
[02:56] <Joseph> yes
[02:56] <disastorm> does anyone know how to install firefox32 on 64-bit
[02:56] <swarm_> http://www.mininova.org/get/337074
[02:56] <swarm_> to be exact
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: i'm deferring to the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:56] <bruenig> swarm_, when you click that link firefox should present you with a dialog asking you where to save it
[02:56] <bruenig> it does for me
[02:56] <Joseph> those instructions say i should know the number
[02:56] <argument> disastorm, there are methods... you can install it into a 32 bit chroot jail iirc
[02:56] <bruenig> if not, try right clicking on it and clicking save link as
[02:56] <orbin> Joseph: looks like you just do /dev/hda3 if / is on that part.
[02:57] <argument> disastorm, try the wiki/forums
[02:57] <argument> disastorm, it's a common problem
[02:57] <Joseph> but im at step 5
[02:57] <Joseph> i am presented with:
[02:57] <swarm_> bruenig, i am doing this via a ssh session
[02:57] <Joseph> dev/discs/disc0/part1, dev/discs/disc0/part2, dev/discs/disc0/part3, dev/discs/disc0/part4 and dev/discs/disc0/part5
[02:57] <Joseph> to choose from
[02:57] <swarm_> where do i get bittorrenycurses?
[02:57] <swarm_> torrent
[02:57] <Flannel> swarm_: it's already installed, btdownloadcurses
[02:58] <argument> disastorm, don't PM people wihtout permission
[02:58] <orbin> Joseph: ah, choose part3 then, sorry.
[02:58] <janubuntu> has anyone had problems with the updated xserver-xorg-core?
[02:58] <argument> disastorm, besides, you never know, i might be walking out the door in 5 minutes and then if you depend on JUST me for your answer that's kinda lame
[02:58] <Flannel> janubuntu: see topic
[02:58] <Joseph> definitely sure? :P
[02:58] <swarm_> hmmm
[02:58] <argument> janubuntu, like what?
[02:58] <orbin> Joseph: grub itself enters the partition counting from zero ... the installer seems to refer counting from 1
[02:58] <swarm_> that's the client lynx seems to use
[02:58] <swarm_> ok, now....
[02:58] <Joseph> yes it does
[02:59] <Joseph> ok
[02:59] <Joseph> so 3
[02:59] <Joseph> thanks
[02:59] <disastorm> what is the red msg text
[02:59] <orbin> Joseph: quite.  good luck
[02:59] <Joseph> =]
[02:59] <swarm_> how do i download the .torrent file from btdownloadcurses at the command line?
[02:59] <janubuntu> i get a no screens error in the xorg log
[02:59] <swarm_> er
[02:59] <swarm_> i mean
[02:59] <swarm_> http://www.mininova.org/get/337074
[02:59] <janubuntu> Flannel how do i do that?