[10:25] <genefitz> TTRanger, most Distros use ALSA drivers.
[10:25] <TTRanger> ok thanks
[10:25] <OsBoNe> good evening
[10:25] <bastid_raZor> ehc, you'll have to manually mount it. automount works in the install
[10:25] <genii> psst: good to know: what filesystem and what device it was seen at
[10:25] <bruenig> benn92647, ok so see if the problem is gone
[10:25] <genefitz> jellymaster there isn't a "shrink" option?
[10:26] <jellymaster> no
[10:26] <ivanowitch> does anyone know what's wrong here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34103/ ?
[10:26] <benn92647> ----bruening nope :(
[10:26] <ehc> bastid_raZor, would it be easier to create a small partition and enlarge it with qtparted?
[10:26] <Drk_Guy> now it's better
[10:26] <genefitz> okay jellymaster, let me find you another option
[10:26] <Drk_Guy> I have a prob with apt-get
[10:26] <psst> genii: any idea how I can tell?  it has no fs atm
[10:26] <benn92647> ---bruenig should i go with another browser?
[10:26] <jellymaster> genefitz:thanks for so much help
[10:26] <bastid_raZor> ehc,  my opinion it would best to do your partitions during install
[10:26] <bruenig> benn92647, no, what shows up under flash when you go to about:plugins in firefox
[10:26] <nick108> NMajik: have you done something similar yourself already?
[10:27] <Drk_Guy> Ntfs-config isn't found, and i need it
[10:27] <Penguinsaremyfri> anybody use fceultra?
[10:27] <bastid_raZor> Drk_Guy, ntfs-3g ..
[10:27] <NMajik> nick108:Yes, but just on a whim. I don't actually need a webserver
[10:27] <Drk_Guy> Thx
[10:27] <genii> psst: report result of command: sudo fdisk -l
[10:27] <nick108> NMajik: I mean on a remote machine?
[10:27] <Penguinsaremyfri> !fceultra
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fceultra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <benn92647> ---bruenig no mention of flashplayer
[10:28] <NMajik> nick108: yeah
[10:28] <benn92647> -----bruenig totme is in there though
[10:28] <bruenig> benn92647, pastebin the output of ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins again
[10:28] <genii> !pastebin |psst
[10:28] <ubotu> psst: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:28] <Drk_Guy> bastid_raZor: didn't work either
[10:29] <Penguinsaremyfri> anybody know how to configure fceultra?
[10:29] <ehc> bastid_raZor, okay and just enlarge it lateR?
[10:29] <pheorehs> hi
[10:29] <pheorehs> say I have a puter with 2 network cards.  I want it to have 1 ipaddress, but use 1 network card for only for Incoming traffic, and the other for Outgoing traffic.  I know this is possible,  just forgot what it's called... any ideas ?
[10:29] <sayanriju> ivanowitch:  what were u trying to do?
[10:29] <Drk_Guy> !ubotu
[10:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <buize> can
[10:29] <bastid_raZor> ehc, why not make it the correct size before hand? you're killing yourself with unneeded labor by enlarging later
[10:29] <nick108> NMajik: after having installed the windows manager how do I proceed? Simply connecting with a VNC client?
[10:29] <ivanowitch> I'm trying to install ttf-opensymbol...
[10:29] <nick108> NMajik: locally this didn't work
[10:29] <GIn> how can I set ubuntu to launch vlc instead of the defaul movie player when I insert a dvd into my dvd drive?
[10:30] <zerwas> what could i do if my soundcard isn't found by cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[10:30] <sayanriju> ivanowitch: u using 'font-cache'??
[10:30] <CoasterMaster> I'm having trouble partitioning my drive for Ubuntu Install
[10:30] <ehc> bastid_raZor, because I get an error when I try to create a partition that is larger than 200gb
[10:30] <nick108> NMajik: I always had to login locally first and configure it
[10:30] <sayanriju> i mean, 'fc-cache'
[10:30] <nick108> NMajik: then I could also login via VNC client
[10:30] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[10:30] <genefitz> jellymaster, try the instructions on this page http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu it may have the solutiuon
[10:30] <Drk_Guy> Apt-get is wierd
[10:30] <benn92647> ------bruenig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34105/
[10:30] <ivanowitch> I'm just executing "apt-get install ttf-opensymbol", and that is the result... :S
[10:30] <NMajik> nick108: Oh, I'm very sorry, I guess I misunderstood
[10:30] <bastid_raZor> ehc, how big is the drive you're using and what are the current partition sizes?
[10:31] <NMajik> nick108: I don't know how to do that remotely
[10:31] <bruenig> benn92647, do file /usr/lib/firefox/libflashplayer.os
[10:31] <benn92647> ---you mean .so right
[10:31] <CoasterMaster> I have a hard drive with 4 partitions on it.  How can I remove the first one (the one Vista is on) with the Installer, and set up my ext3 and swap space in it?  If I remove the first partition in the installer and then make the / partition (minus 2 GB for swap), I can't make the swap space, it says the space is unsable
[10:31] <Drk_Guy> sorry guys
[10:31] <bruenig> benn92647, yeah, paste the output, shouldn't need pastebin
[10:31] <nick108> NMajik: thanks anyway for the usefull link to the forums!
[10:31] <ehc> bastid_raZor, it is a 400gb drive, completely empty, I don't want to partition it all into one drive though, I want to have a large /scratch partition for music and videos and other junk
[10:31] <Drk_Guy> I had multiverse disabled
[10:32] <jellymaster> Genefitz: I was following that guide but it didn't have any information about this problem
[10:32] <Kromel> sayanriju, I don't mean to intrude.  I'm a Linux noob myself.  Do you think the following link may have to do with Ivanowitch's problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[10:32] <bastid_raZor> ehc what error are you getting?
[10:32] <benn92647> -------bruenig  /usr/lib/firefox/libflashplayer.so: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/firefox/libflashplayer.so' (No such file or directory)
[10:33] <xIke> anyone know how to get emerald to consistently start at login?
[10:33] <bruenig> benn92647, do file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:33] <sayanriju> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[10:33] <sayanriju> Kromel: hey...coinscidence!!
[10:33] <benn92647> i did
[10:33] <sayanriju> Kromel: i just googled it now!! :D
[10:33] <benn92647> -----bruenig i did i got it dont exist
[10:33] <Kromel> sayanriju, LOL!
[10:33] <ehc> bastid_raZor, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/132322 "can't have the end before the start"
[10:33] <bastid_raZor> xIke, enable desktop effects in system > preferences
[10:33] <WindsofTime> How do I resize the main partition of Linux  so that I can reinstall Windows? (I already know how to fix my GRUB once it installs..so Please dont tell me that I need to know how to successfully resize the partition!)
[10:34] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I'm using compiz fusion
[10:34] <bruenig> benn92647, no you missed the "plugins" part of the path
[10:34] <benn92647> ohh
[10:34] <Kromel> sayanriju, google is my best friend.
[10:34] <genefitz> okay jellymaster, let me keep searching
[10:34] <sayanriju> Kromel: mine too!! :D
[10:34] <jellymaster> thank you very much genefitz
[10:34] <bastid_raZor> xIke, that is how to get compiz-fusion to start automatically.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[10:34] <genii> psst: Did you see the results of the command:  sudo fdisk -l     yet?
[10:34] <Kumiriko> I've got a basic install issue.  the whole Unable to locate RSDP.  anyone got suggetions to get past it?
[10:35] <benn92647> ------Bruenig   benn92647@benn92647-desktop:~$ file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:35] <benn92647> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so: symbolic link to `../../flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so'
[10:35] <sayanriju> ivanowitch: so mate ...plz refer to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/104553
[10:35] <ivanowitch> kromel, thanks for the link, trying it out :)
[10:35] <benn92647> oopssorry everyoone
[10:35] <xIke> bastid_raZor: hrm, I don't even have that panel anymore...is it safe to apt-get desktop effects?
[10:35] <sayanriju> ots a knwn bug, as me and Kromel and Google have pointed out!! :)
[10:35] <Kromel> Ivanowitch, good luck!  Yeah, google is awesome.  It's how I find 90% of the answers I'm looking for.
[10:36] <bruenig> benn92647, everything looks good, you might try doing mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozillabackup and then restarting firefox
[10:36] <bastid_raZor> xIke, i'm currently having issues with compiz-fusion.. how did you install it? by adding deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[10:36] <bastid_raZor>  to your sources.list?
[10:36] <psst> genil: that only lists /dev/sda1, sda2 and sda5
[10:36] <bastid_raZor> xIke, and that page i posted is how i installed it.
[10:37] <xIke> bastid_raZor: no, the *right* way to do it right now is using amaranth's repos
[10:37] <benn92647> -----bruenig how do i make it work?
[10:37] <xIke> bastid_raZor: that will keep you inline with the gutsy install
[10:37] <fulio> hi
[10:37] <NMajik> Does anyone have a preferred media (specifically music) player? I'm underwhelmed by Rhythmbox
[10:37] <xIke> bastid_raZor: any other way will be broken when you upgrade to gutsy
[10:37] <bruenig> benn92647, did that command, restart firefox and see if that does it?
[10:37] <CoasterMaster> Is there any way I can have 5 partitions on a hard drive?
[10:37] <benn92647> ---bruenig i did it in terminal and it didnt do anything
[10:37] <genii> psst: When you powered on the external, did you get a popup window?
[10:37] <bruenig> benn92647, right, now restart firefox
[10:37] <sayanriju> NMajik: try amarok........truly rokzz!!
[10:37] <fulio> How can i install debian on ubuntu?? it says i have it but i dont see it under applications
[10:38] <benn92647> ----bruenig LOL ok so it reset all the defaults
[10:38] <pheorehs> say I have a puter with 2 network cards.  I want it to have 1 ipaddress, but use 1 network card for only for Incoming traffic, and the other for Outgoing traffic.   any ideas ?
[10:38] <psst> genil: no
[10:38] <bastid_raZor> xIke, oh.. so you're using gutsy and not feisty??
[10:38] <WindsofTime> How do I resize the main partition of Linux  so that I can reinstall Windows? (I already know how to fix my GRUB once it installs..so Please dont tell me that I need to know how to successfully resize the partition!)
[10:38] <xIke> bastid_raZor: no, I'm using feisty
[10:38] <psst> genil: it's not formatted yet, so there's no fs to mount
[10:38] <bruenig> benn92647, right but they are backed up, just to see if maybe you have some bad configuration
[10:38] <benn92647> -----bruenig now what do i do
[10:38] <xIke> bastid_raZor: looks like you followed the right example.
[10:38] <vocx> fulio, debian is not a program, it is a complete Linux distribution like ubuntu.
[10:38] <bruenig> benn92647, go to youtube and see
[10:38] <fulio> vocx, ohh.
[10:38] <bastid_raZor> xIke, i get compiz-core is an unauthenticated package. did/have you gotten that error?
[10:39] <xIke> bastid_raZor: amaranth's repos are simply the gutsy compiz, made backwards compatible with feisty
[10:39] <vocx> !debian > fulio
[10:39] <psst> genil: any way to track what device it is?
[10:39] <sayanriju> fulio: are u by any chance trying to install 'debian menu' via automatix, etc?
[10:39] <xIke> bastid_raZor: yeah, can you not tell it to go ahead anyway
[10:39] <DrHalan> hey, i just uninstalled fglrx drivers to install new ones and now ive flickering windos etc :S
[10:39] <genii> psst: Please spell my nick genii so that when i can tell immediately you are speaing to me :) thx
[10:39] <fulio> sayanriju, yes
[10:39] <NMajik> sayanriju: I gave that a quick shot, it didn't over too well though. I'm going to have a seperate box set up as a media player, so I can use kubuntu, hopefully with better results. Thanks for the recommendation
[10:39] <WindsofTime> !partition resize
[10:39] <bastid_raZor> xIke, yes i did. but it keeps asking to upgrade compiz-core after i apt-get it. no matter how many times i install it
[10:39] <praet> xIke: what he an I are both seeing is that after upgrading, the same version comes up for upgrading again
[10:39] <psst> genii: doh!  sleepy
[10:39] <WindsofTime> !partitions
[10:39] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:39] <vocx> !automatix > fulio
[10:40] <sayanriju> NMajik: u r welcome...u can try Listen in gnome....pretty good!
[10:40] <genefitz> jellymaster, here's an idea..
[10:40] <praet> bastid_raZor: did you use trvinos first?
[10:40] <xIke> praet: that's a known bug
[10:40] <psst> genii: got it now
[10:40] <jacekowski> !restricted
[10:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:40] <WindsofTime> !partition help
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partition help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <Kumiriko> so yeah.  i am installing ubuntu for the first time.  and when i start the install process  it tells me ACPI: unable to locate RSDP.  cant find anything to get me past this tiny bump
[10:40] <bastid_raZor> praet, no, this is the only repo i used
[10:40] <WindsofTime> =\
[10:40] <fulio> ohh.
[10:40] <WindsofTime> !forum
[10:40] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:40] <genefitz> jellymaster: when is the last time you did a defrad or disk check on your windows drive?
[10:40] <praet> xIke: is there a location to see details about it?
[10:40] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I have the same thing as well.  when I asked about it I was told it's a known bug
[10:40] <NMajik> sayanriju: Any specific features in amarok that really stand out?
[10:40] <SeveredCross> Kumiriko: Try booting with noacpi
[10:40] <vocx> !botabuse > WindsofTime
[10:40] <genii> psst: thx :) OK, do you know which disks already existed in your computer before this? sda sdb or so on
[10:40] <xIke> praet: no idea...I heard about it on IRC
[10:40] <genefitz> Many times gparted won't play with a disk that may have error
[10:40] <benn92647> ----bruenig nope
[10:40] <bastid_raZor> xIke, ahh.. so no fix as of yet?
[10:40] <praet> is there an ignore function :)
[10:41] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I don't think so.
[10:41] <bastid_raZor> xIke, ahh..
[10:41] <fulio> ohh.
[10:41] <fulio> Can somone help me fix my wireless card on my laptop. ubuntu doesnt see it. i have to connect to the internet using a wired connection.
[10:41] <bruenig> benn92647, what version of ubuntu?
[10:41] <bastid_raZor> xIke, cool atleast now i can quit trying to fix it.
[10:41] <genefitz> defrag even
[10:41] <psst> genii: same three
[10:41] <WindsofTime> vocx, Being no1 has answered my question I only hoped that the bot would find an answer..so please dont hit me with Abuse when I only seek help =\
[10:41] <sayanriju> NMajik: read the web page 4 details...I just thnk it has all the features i want, except that its a bit heavy! :)
[10:41] <xIke> bastid_raZor: lol, yeah- you won't get anywhere.  I've tried
[10:41] <jellymaster> Genefitz: I haven't on this computer it was never used until about a week ago
[10:41] <praet> bastid_raZor: xIke: well , at least we're all in this together
[10:41] <bastid_raZor> praet, xike.. yeah..
[10:41] <WindsofTime> if you notice, I called on the forums as a last resort..being I dont know the link =\
[10:41] <NMajik> sayanriju: I did read up on it a bit. I wasn't sure what features stood out to an actual user though
[10:42] <vocx> WindsofTime, there is no problem. The fact is that you can ask ubotu in private.
[10:42] <xIke> praet: hehe, yeah.  I thought I had everything working and emerald won't start consistently on login...back to debugging :(
[10:42] <jellymaster> genefitz:I'll do one now
[10:42] <fulio> I have a Hp pavilion 6000. Can somone help me fix my wireless card on my laptop. ubuntu doesnt see it. i have to connect to the internet using a wired connection.
[10:42] <genefitz> jellymaster, go into windows, run disk check, then defrag. Then start over. It may fix the issue
[10:42] <robert298> Hi, I'm having problems using gparted.  Is there anyway to move a primary partition into a logical one without losing data?
[10:42] <WindsofTime> vocx, awesome thanks for letting me know ^^
[10:42] <Kumiriko> how would i go about doing that serverd cross.  new to all this and vary green behind the gills
[10:42] <Kumiriko> *severed
[10:42] <sayanriju> NMajik: plugin support (esp. lyrics and wikipedia), great UI, album and playlist management, etc
[10:42] <genii> psst: unplug external, then replug. then in console do:  dmesg and see if it reports a new drive number
[10:42] <praet> xIke: how are you starting compiz?
[10:42] <vocx> WindsofTime, also, your question seemed confusing, you said you wanted to resize, but then said we should not tell you to resize?
[10:43] <jellymaster> genefitz: it's in the defragmenting process now thanks for all the help i'll be back gotta bring my friend home
[10:43] <bastid_raZor> praet, i'm looking at disabling it ..
[10:43] <xtknight> does anyone else have a broken Logout button (perhaps after some updates)?  i reboot and out of nowhere it doesnt work anymore
[10:43] <genii> psst:    tail dmesg    will do too
[10:43] <xIke> praet: I added it to sessions: compiz --replace.  I edited the compiz prefs to tell it to use emerald
[10:43] <sayanriju> NMajik: Listen looks promising too....u can try it in gnome
[10:43] <psst> genii: ooh!  Lots of errors
[10:43] <NMajik> sayanriju: Ah, thank you
[10:43] <genefitz> jellymaster: Good luck :-)
[10:44] <xIke> praet: thanks man, you just showed me what I did wrong
[10:44] <xIke> bastid_raZor: you did too
[10:44] <WindsofTime> How do I resize the main partition of Linux  so that I can reinstall Windows? (I already know how to fix my GRUB once it installs..so Please dont tell me about losing my Linux (Ubuntu) GRUB this I know... I just want to know how to successfully resize the partition!)
[10:44] <xtknight> i figured it out.  i had to have at least one window open before logout would want to show up (compiz fusion alpha problem likely)
[10:44] <xIke> I got suckered into that stupid "hey, there's a new compiz update"
[10:44] <vocx> xtknight, buttons are for the weak. Real men use "sudo halt".
[10:44] <WindsofTime> vocx, sorry about that... I corrected it
[10:44] <thedash> what is the difference between UTF-8 and UTF-16 ?
[10:44] <NMajik> fulio: Does ubuntu see the built in wireless card at all; is it just not connecting to your network?
[10:44] <xIke> which hosed my /usr/bin/compiz prefs to use emerald
[10:44] <xIke> w00t!  thanks guys :P
[10:44] <xtknight> vocx, real men want their software to work consistently ;)
[10:44] <fulio> NMajik, im not sure. i dont think it sees it
[10:45] <NMajik> In terminal type iwconfig
[10:45] <benn92647> -----bruenig no it still wont work
[10:45] <nickrud> NMajik, there's also muine and beep-media-player, banshee, the mpd/mpc/gmpc combo ;
[10:45] <bastid_raZor> xike heh.. i actually like fusion better
[10:45] <NMajik> fulio: How many interfaces does it see?
[10:45] <touchen> I love this os :)
[10:45] <bruenig> benn92647, what version of ubuntu?
[10:45] <genii> psst: At very bottom of the dmesg stuff does it say about the usb drive being found etc
[10:45] <GIn> is Fusion stable?
[10:45] <bastid_raZor> xIke, praet i'll have the answer to disabling/hold back the package shortly..
[10:45] <benn92647> -----bruenig fiesty fawn
[10:45] <xIke> bastid_raZor: nice
[10:46] <vocx> xtknight, glad to have you back.      I'll use the button in a few hours and tell you if it worked in another day.
[10:46] <praet> great
[10:46] <fulio> lo        no wireless extensions.
[10:46] <fulio> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[10:46] <fulio> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"l"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"
[10:46] <bruenig> benn92647, and you are using the ubuntu packaged firefox right? no special scripts or swiftfox or any nonsense like that?
[10:46] <benn92647> ---bruenig no justthe one it came with
[10:46] <sayanriju> nickrud: aha! gmpc (woth mpd) is  great! :)
[10:47] <bruenig> benn92647, weird
[10:47] <vocx> fulio, do not paste in here under any circumstance.
[10:47] <bastid_raZor> ehc that sounds like you're mixing up the partitions and trying to create one overlapping
[10:47] <sayanriju> GIn: far from being so!
[10:47] <fulio> vocx, sorry
[10:47] <xtknight> there's no problem with pasting less than 3 lines here.
[10:47] <benn92647> ---bruenig i have installed reinstall every distro from X86 to 64 to re installing the 32 bit version and then upgrading to fiesty fawn
[10:47] <bruenig> benn92647, I know that libflash-mozplugin.so was messing it up, after that was gone it should be fine, you are on 32 bit, using official firefox, there is no other reason
[10:47] <databuddy> i got ter damn job :>
[10:47] <NMajik> fulio: So it does see your wireless card as eth1, which is good
[10:47] <bruenig> benn92647, ubuntu firefox*
[10:48] <bastid_raZor> xIke, you don't have the enable desktop effects option in system > pref?
[10:48] <benn92647> ----bruening 32 bit upgraded to fiesty fawn
[10:48] <fulio> NMajik, yea
[10:48] <NMajik> fulio: Go to System>Administration>Network
[10:48] <vocx> xtknight, I have to warn them because some new users want to paste the entire terminal. It is better to be in the safe side.
[10:48] <DrHalan> can i somehow disable restricted graphic drivers in the terminal?
[10:48] <fulio> NMajik, ok
[10:48] <bruenig> benn92647, do "file /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu"
[10:48] <xIke> bastid_raZor: no
[10:48] <cyberjames> !ubuntu
[10:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:48] <psst> genii: may I pm you with the output?
[10:48] <NMajik> fulio: See something called wireless connection?
[10:48] <genii> psst: does command:  ls /dev/sdb* produce anything?
[10:49] <cyberjames> !on the fly
[10:49] <fulio> NMajik, its asking for a "The platform you are runnung is not supported by this tool"
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about on the fly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <genii> psst:OK
[10:49] <benn92647> ----is there
[10:49] <bruenig> benn92647, its there?
[10:49] <benn92647> benn92647@benn92647-desktop:~$ file /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu
[10:49] <benn92647> /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' (No such file or directory)
[10:49] <fulio> NMajik, do i choose ubuntu 7.04 feisty
[10:49] <vocx> WindsofTime, I can only suggest you to boot the Live CD and try to resize with the utilities included. If you cannot through the Ubuntu CD I suggest you use Knoppix or other live CD. The important point , is the partition should not be mounted.
[10:49] <benn92647> ---bruenig sorry
[10:49] <NMajik> fulio: If that's what you have installed
[10:49] <redheat> hi everyone
[10:49] <redheat> sorry for bothering you all
[10:49] <bruenig> benn92647, ok, that is right. I don't know, do file /usr/bin/firefox
[10:49] <redheat> just gotta a qestion
[10:49] <fulio> NMajik, k, yes i do see the wireless connection
[10:49] <xIke> redheat: np, what's up?
[10:50] <redheat> fine, thanks.
[10:50] <WindsofTime> vocx, being the partition is the whole HardDrive I dont know if I can unmount it
[10:50] <NMajik> fulio: Click properties
[10:50] <redheat> I have everything running peachy on my system
[10:50] <fulio> NMajik, ok
[10:50] <NMajik> fulio: BTW, is your network encrypted?
[10:50] <redheat> I'm running fiesty fawn as part of my three OS system,
[10:50] <xIke> redheat: ...
[10:50] <benn92647> ---bruenig it opened fire fox :)
[10:50] <fulio> NMajik, meaing ?
[10:50] <bastid_raZor> xIke, praet , echo "compiz-core hold" | dpkg --set-selections
[10:50] <bastid_raZor>  (i did this as root)
[10:50] <bruenig> benn92647, it shouldn't have, did you do "file /usr/bin/firefox"
[10:50] <getoo> will ubuntu install on a macosx box
[10:50] <vocx> WindsofTime, yes, it is possible. The Live CD does not use the hard drive at all. It loads all its data to RAM memory. Awesome don't you think?
[10:50] <bruenig> bastid_raZor, why would you pipe that?
[10:51] <getoo> its intel not ppc
[10:51] <bruenig> getoo, yes
[10:51] <NMajik> fulio: Your wireless network, is it encrypted with WEP, WPA, etc?
[10:51] <redheat> my processor is a core duo 2 pentium 6600., and I have four gigabytes of RAM 667, and also I've installed the magnificent Beryl, and it does spin :)
[10:51] <redheat> but here's the problem
[10:51] <fulio> NMajik, yes WEP
[10:51] <getoo> bruenig: so should i just donwload the iso
[10:51] <NMajik> Fulio: ok
[10:51] <WindsofTime> vocx, indeed it is
[10:51] <bruenig> getoo, if you want to install it
[10:51] <getoo> go proceed with the install
[10:51] <redheat> the system suddenly freezes
[10:51] <bastid_raZor> bruenig, why not?
[10:51] <getoo> bruenig: i do
[10:51] <NMajik> Fulio: on the list of essids, do you see yours?
[10:51] <bruenig> getoo, then yeah
[10:51] <getoo> bruenig: cool
[10:51] <benn92647> ---bruenig /usr/bin/firefox: symbolic link to `../lib/firefox/firefox'
[10:51] <ac-town> Do i need to install libgl?
[10:51] <bastid_raZor> bruenig, the furry bunny that lives under my chair told me
[10:51] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I tried that and it complained about read/write access to dpkg status area
[10:51] <getoo> cause macosx makes me tired
[10:52] <getoo> :D
[10:52] <redheat> out of nowhere it just freezes, and if I tried to move the mouse it crawls..and I could not open anything at all
[10:52] <fulio> NMajik, no. i have to type something in there.
[10:52] <getoo> linux rocks
[10:52] <bruenig> benn92647, everything looks right
[10:52] <redheat> Xike, are you still with me?
[10:52] <ac-town> or does ubuntu come with libgl
[10:52] <shad0w> hey there.
[10:52] <NMajik> fulio: enable roaming, then click ok
[10:52] <benn92647> -----bruenig so why do firefox hate me?
[10:52] <shad0w> can i have text interface on ubuntu?
[10:52] <NMajik> fulio: allow it to finish doing it's thing
[10:52] <bastid_raZor> xike run as root.. or do sudo in front of dpkg
[10:52] <redheat> xIke, my friend are you still with me?
[10:52] <bruenig> bastid_raZor, well I mean you can do: echo firefox | sudo apt-get install, but it looks goofy
[10:52] <xIke> redheat: does it freeze randomly, or does something seem to trigger it?
[10:52] <NMajik> fulio: then go into properties again
[10:52] <fulio> NMajik, ok
[10:52] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I tried sudo
[10:53] <shad0w> can i have text interface on ubuntu, world?
[10:53] <redheat> no it just freezes..
[10:53] <NMajik> fulio: diable roaming
[10:53] <benn92647> ---bruenig it kight help youto know that it didnt work with opera or IEs4linux
[10:53] <shad0w> can i have text interface on ubuntu, world ???
[10:53] <NMajik> fulio: See your essid now?
[10:53] <bastid_raZor> xIke, i have a terminal as root.. sudo bash then run that command
[10:53] <fulio> NMajik, nothing
[10:53] <redheat> out of nowhere, if I didn't move the mouse for a while and left the system unattended it just freezes..
[10:53] <bruenig> benn92647, do you have any other sound producing programs open?
[10:53] <NMajik> Fulio: nuts, one second
[10:53] <redheat> I have no screen saver or power saving scheme if that's what you thinking
[10:53] <vocx> !repeat > shad0w
[10:53] <bastid_raZor> bruenig, goofy but works.. ;)
[10:53] <benn92647> -----breunig yeah im listen to Bush on my rythm box now
[10:53] <Kumiriko> so i disabled the aspi and i still freeze with a blinking cursor shortly after starting a clean install on my box.  any suggetions
[10:53] <fulio> NMajik, k
[10:53] <shad0w> :)
[10:54] <xIke> bastid_raZor: I su'd and did it and it worked.  wonder why sudo doesn't
[10:54] <vocx> shad0w, yes of course you can have. Use the alternate install CD.
[10:54] <xIke> redheat: do you have any screensavers enabled?
[10:54] <redheat> but I noticed also that it happens when I"m running gnome interface rather than the KDE interface
[10:54] <redheat> no
[10:54] <shad0w> alternate install CD ?
[10:54] <shad0w> what's that?
[10:54] <NMajik>  fulio: in terminal type, iwlist eth1 scan
[10:54] <vocx> !alternate | shad0w
[10:54] <ubotu> shad0w: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[10:54] <getoo> bruenig: will it recognize the hardware as easily as on a pc ... for the mac install .... i do have a intel duo stuff on it
[10:54] <bastid_raZor> xIke, got me.. i tend to have a terminal as root open plus several other user tabs.. i'm insane with mass amounts of terminals open
[10:55] <xIke> redheat: any power saving settings?  it's possible that sleep isn't supported on your system and is locking it up
[10:55] <fulio> it said no scan results
[10:55] <fulio> NMajik, it said no scan results
[10:55] <xIke> bastid_raZor: yeah, I try to avoid su whenever possible though, it can be dangeorus
[10:55] <shad0w> where can i get the Alternate CD ?
[10:55] <shad0w> from where? :)
[10:55] <redheat> nope, absolutely, and by the way my system does support all kind of sleeping..
[10:55] <Shani`andras> OMg its finally working XGL + fglrx + vmware windows @ fullscreen , it roxxxxxx :D :D
[10:55] <redheat> even those on pills..
[10:55] <vocx> !download | shad0w
[10:55] <ubotu> shad0w: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[10:55] <xIke> bastid_raZor: yeah, that fixed the problem.  thanks.  where'd you find that?
[10:55] <benn92647> ----bruenig....No! come back!
[10:55] <NMajik> Fulio: But you're sure you can see the wlan in XP?
[10:55] <bastid_raZor> xIke, very true. i feel i have a decent lockdown on my system.
[10:55] <redheat> I have a motherboard 965P-DS3 by Gigabyte..
[10:55] <redheat> and it really rocks
[10:55] <benn92647> <<<<starts sobbing
[10:55] <xIke> redheat: there's a difference between your system supporting it, and ubuntu supporting your system :P
[10:56] <fulio> NMajik, i had vista first before i blast it to ubuntu
[10:56] <bastid_raZor> xIke, MordEth knows, Al' Thor MordEth knows
[10:56] <redheat> oh ok..:)
[10:56] <redheat> didn't know that..
[10:56] <xIke> check system:prefs: power management
[10:56] <NMajik> fulio: Did vista see it?
[10:56] <redheat> but in both cases ... it's the first time I have something like this
[10:56] <redheat> never had it before..
[10:56] <fulio> NMajik, yes.
[10:56] <xIke> bastid_raZor: ?
[10:56] <vocx> benn92647, sorry man, the guy is a busy person.
[10:56] <StARTLOL> hello ubuntu uses lilo ou grub?
[10:56] <timewriter> !gtk
[10:56] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[10:56] <redheat> and by the way the freezing happens only under Gnome not under KDE
[10:56] <NMajik> Fulio: if that's the case, I'm stumped, sorry. You'll need to find someone that know more than me (I know basically nothing)
[10:56] <vocx> !grub | StARTLOL
[10:56] <ubotu> StARTLOL: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:56] <bastid_raZor> xIke, a friend of mine is a googling genius and he can fix all my issues. his username is MordEth
[10:56] <benn92647> i know i jsut want to watch amy winehouse rehab video on youtube
[10:56] <xIke> redheat: see what your sleep times are.  if your system locks up after 15 minutes, and it also is set to sleep after 15 minutes, you found your problem
[10:57] <ubuntu> hoola
[10:57] <fulio> NMajik, well can you help me with my desktop efffects then
[10:57] <StARTLOL> vocx,  thank you so much :D
[10:57] <vocx> !lilo | StARTLOL
[10:57] <ubotu> StARTLOL: lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[10:57] <redheat> I just checked it ..
[10:57] <ubuntu> hola?
[10:57] <redheat> all set to never when on AC power, but on UPS is a different issue
[10:57] <NMajik> Fulio: I don't know a darn thing about desktop effects
[10:57] <vocx> !es | ubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:57] <xIke> bastid_raZor: ah.  I'm fairly good with google, but right now I have tabs and windows open everywhere from fixing like 8 different problems.  eventually my usefulness reaches 0 :P
[10:57] <redheat> and I have a UPS by the way
[10:57] <fulio> NMajik, darn, Well thanks
[10:57] <ubuntu> thanks
[10:57] <B52doc> anyone have experience installing Steam with Wine ?
[10:57] <Flannel> B52doc: you might try #winehq
[10:57] <ubuntu> what country is this?
[10:57] <bastid_raZor> xIke, if i get stuck.. he is my last resort... yeah i know the feeling
[10:57] <redheat> xIke, can I ask you a question,, could be Beryl?
[10:58] <benn92647> Can someone please help me--i cant get any browser to communicate with my sound card in Linux
[10:58] <vocx> !english | ubuntu
[10:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:58] <redheat> sorry, I meant could it be Beryl
[10:58] <xIke> redheat: maybe, beryl's pretty beta
[10:58] <B52doc> I am just stuck on one part of the guide for installation :(
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: your stil having that problem?
[10:58] <redheat> wow..
[10:58] <B52doc> feel kinda stupid because I am sure its easy to fix
[10:58] <xIke> redheat: beryl has screensavers
[10:58] <benn92647> --indygunfreak YAY!   yes no matter what we have done it still doesnt work
[10:58] <ubuntu> do u like ubuntu?
[10:58] <redheat> oh one more thing, I got beryl to start with my system under Gnome, but I couldn't get it to do that under KDE
[10:58] <xIke> redheat: check your beryl prefs and see if they're starting a screensaver
[10:58] <caesar_> is there a way I can make Ubuntu reconfigure xorg.conf? Like, I want xorg.conf to be the way it was when I installed Ubuntu
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: i take it you tried upgrading to the beta of flash
[10:59] <benn92647> not in opera..or IES4linux
[10:59] <ubuntu> how can I change the colors?
[10:59] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak yep
[10:59] <redheat> xIke, can you hold on for a second while I check that?
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: very wierd.
[10:59] <xIke> redheat: sure
[10:59] <nickrud> caesar_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:59] <benn92647> ----indygunfreak is there a way to manually coonect firefox to my audio output?
[10:59] <ryan_> i have a problem with an ATI radeon xpress 1150 and beryl. it doesnt work. I followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488385
[11:00] <xIke> lol, noobs.  guy pops up in ubuntu-effects, asks question.  gives up and leaves 20 seconds later
[11:00] <xIke> poor guy, I would have helpd
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: not that i know of.
[11:00] <ryan_> but when it gets to loading the XGL and gnome its all jumbly
[11:00] <soc> hi
[11:00] <xIke> ryan_: hey
[11:00] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak how do install opera again?
[11:00] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get install opera
[11:00] <xIke> ryan_: can you go back to the ubuntu-effects channel?  way too much chatter here
[11:00] <redheat> xIke, can't find the Beryl Screen saver, under which tab of the Beryl Settings manager will I find it
[11:00] <vocx> xIke, you certainly need to answer faster. People always complain in that channel people are idle.
[11:00] <soc> can i delete /usr/X11R6?
[11:00] <caesar_> thanks nickrud
[11:01] <soc> everything in it are symlinks
[11:01] <xIke> vocx: yeah, it's hard to watch several channels though...
[11:01] <redheat> xIke, is there a way I can set Beryl back to defaults?
[11:01] <ryan_> well i did, but absolutely nobody was talking or answering
[11:01] <vocx> !noob | Also remember
[11:01] <xIke> ryan_: yeah, I answered right after you left :(
[11:01] <ubotu> Also remember: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:01] <ryan_> haha
[11:01] <nickrud> benn92647, have you done the stuff on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-f036b17c3150dd72f58d952a0e13094568c9f92e
[11:01] <soc> it annoys me that years after the move to a modular release this obsolete crap stys in my /usr
[11:01] <redheat> ubotu, is boob allowed>?
[11:01] <benn92647> ----indygunfreak  it wont let me install says it is not available
[11:02] <vocx> !language | redheat
[11:02] <ubotu> redheat: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:02] <redheat> wow
[11:02] <redheat> sorry, I was kidding
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: go to http://www.opera.com and download the Ubuntu .deb file
[11:02] <redheat> truely apologize
[11:02] <redheat> it was a pun on what Uboto just said
[11:02] <redheat> truely apologize
[11:02] <soc> anyone?
[11:02] <ac-town> Hey
[11:02] <redheat> absolutely..
[11:02] <redheat> my apology
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> redheat: ok, we get it.
[11:02] <neverblue> !zipit | redheat
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zipit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <soc> !language | /me
[11:02] <benn92647> ----nickrud i will see if that fixes it
[11:02] <ubotu> /me: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:02] <ac-town> Has anyone gotten WoW to work on ubuntu?
[11:03] <soc> daaaaamn ...
[11:03] <soc> :-)
[11:03] <PriceChild> ac-town, try #winehq and read the winehq appdb
[11:03] <neverblue> :)
[11:03] <danya__> hello
[11:03] <redheat> xIke, can I set Beryl to defaults?
[11:03] <ac-town> Pricechild it did work now im getting opengl errors
[11:03] <benn92647> ----nickrud how do i get Gnash?
[11:03] <xIke> redheat: how so?
[11:04] <redheat> I mean, set all the settings to their initial values when I first installed Beryl?
[11:04] <vocx> !gnash | benn92647
[11:04] <ubotu> benn92647: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:04] <xIke> redheat: I'm not sure off-hand....someone else may know a way
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: he tried gnash, that didn't work either
[11:05] <nickrud> benn92647, it's in the repos; .7.2 in feisty-security, .8 in backports
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: i thought you said you tried gnash?... second, i don't think gnash works with all flash sites(youtube)
[11:05] <redheat> ok, I have this question, how can I make Beryl start with Ubuntu but under KDE?
[11:05] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, I really didn't care, I just wanted to fire the factoid
[11:05] <B52doc> My steam stops updating at 26%, I found a fix but it asks that I know where my steam executables are located, I dont know how to find them
[11:05] <benn92647> --nickrud I am a bignoob so how do i get there
[11:05] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: lol
[11:05] <redheat> I know how to make it start eachtime under Gnome, but under KDE, I don't know how?
[11:05] <nickrud> benn92647, try the aoss option if you have sound issues, it's worked for a lot of people
[11:06] <benn92647> ---nickrud already did it..didnt fix it
[11:06] <xIke> redheat: how do you start it in gnome?
[11:06] <benn92647> ---nickrud all i can think is ther is some kind of a conflict with my sound and firefox
[11:07] <redheat> ok..there's something called the start manager or something like that
[11:07] <beans1337> hi anyone here good with hard drives on ubuntu?
[11:07] <redheat> I just put beryl-manager there and that's it
[11:07] <nickrud>  benn92647 then me personally, I'd do an aptitude purge firefox && aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree && aptitude install firefox flashplugin-nonfree . And your thoughts on sound devices could be true :)
[11:07] <beans1337> can someone please help me with my hard drive?
[11:08] <benn92647> ---nickrud ok so i can complete purge all firefox and flahs from my system?
[11:08] <redheat> yes the Boot-Up manager
[11:08] <vocx> Hard drives are hard drives, what do they have to do with any OS.
[11:08] <onkarshinde> Has anyone successfully configured resolution for 32" LCD TV with Ubuntu?
[11:08] <nickrud> benn92647, you might want to consider using firefox's automatic flash install instead of flashplugin-nonfree
[11:08] <beans1337> i dont know how to install it cuz im a noob
[11:08] <redheat> xIke, the boot-up manager you just add a line to it and you write in it..beryl-manager
[11:08] <nickrud> benn92647, yeah, you've been messing with the files I'd suppose, get back to a baseline
[11:08] <xIke> redheat:  does this help: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=26192&mode=threaded&pid=178872
[11:08] <benn92647> ---nickrud ok...but first tell me how to completely purge firefox and flash from all directories
[11:08] <XLV> onkarshinde, try lots of res.. use gtf from command line, until you get one that fits right for your screen's underscan/overscan needs
[11:09] <beans1337> i tried to install it but i think i messed up
[11:09] <onkarshinde> XLV: what is gtf?
[11:09] <nickrud> benn92647, do sudo -i in a terminal, then cut and paste the command above
[11:09] <vocx> beans1337, you bought a new drive and you want to install it? Just plug the power cables and the IDE or SATA cables. Run the BIOS and that's it.
[11:09] <XLV> Oni-Dracula, open a shell and write gtf
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: you made that sound amazingly simple.. :)
[11:10] <beans1337> its plugged in and such, my problem is that i dont know how to mount it and all that
[11:10] <beans1337> i think i mounted it wrong
[11:10] <XLV> onkarshinde, start a shell and write gtf ... tab completion errors are a pita
[11:10] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, it's that simple!
[11:10] <onkarshinde> XLV: What do I make out from the output?
[11:10] <benn92647> ---nic run is it sudo -i apt purge firefox?
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: lol, thus my :)
[11:11] <benn92647> lol
[11:11] <beans1337> its formatted and i thought i had it mounted to a folder, but the folder says 4.8 gigs and its a 80 gig hd
[11:11] <benn92647> ---nickrud is it sudo -i apt-purge firefox
[11:11] <beans1337> and it says i cant write to the folder
[11:11] <beans1337> this chat sure is helpful
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: we strive
[11:12] <beans1337> c'mon i need help ppls
[11:12] <nickrud> benn92647, type in a terminal(forget about the sudo -i, I rewrote the command):  sudo aptitude purge firefox && sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree && sudo aptitude install firefox flashplugin-nonfree
[11:12] <vocx> beans1337, okay, you need a proper line in /etc/fstab  which is a text file. It is the job of an administrator to set this file so ask IndyGunFreak ....
[11:12] <redheat> xIke, this is the part that I"m talking about
[11:12] <redheat> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Beryl_.28Nvidia.29
[11:12] <zombie_monkey> are there any advantages in using ext2 over ext3? less writes maybe?
[11:12] <nickrud> rflol
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: lol, i've never had to set an option in fstab for a new hard drive..lol
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> but that was pretty funny
[11:13] <arko> Hi all, I'm trying to get OpenSSL working on Ubuntu 7.04 desktop.  If I try to install the package using apt-get, it says I already have it.  But when I try to install Apache and PHP, it says it is not there.  Ideas?
[11:13] <XLV> onkarshinde, you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add that modeline in Device section, then make it active in Screen section
[11:13] <redheat> or just type Beryl and search for Beryl, install beryl under Nvidia
[11:13] <onkarshinde> XLV: bingo
[11:13] <vocx> zombie_monkey, NO. ext3 is identical to ext2 save for the journal. The journal is good.
[11:13] <XLV> onkarshinde, yeah, its nice isnt it?
[11:14] <joshritger> I have a external drive that is fat32, it has the wrong mount point, how do I change its mount point?
[11:14] <redheat> xIke, are you still with me?
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: if you go to Places/Computer, do you see an icon for your new drive?
[11:14] <onkarshinde> XLV: Wait, I haven't actually done it. :-)
[11:14] <benn92647> oh shit!
[11:14] <praet> bastid_raZor: great! I did it as echo "compiz-core hold" |sudo dpkg --set-selections
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: did it work?
[11:14] <vocx> zombie_monkey, ext2 may be useful setting small partitions, which was a good idea for /boot directories, when hard drive space wasn't cheap.
[11:14] <onkarshinde> XLV: How do I make it active in screen section?
[11:14] <soulecho> im having issues installing Sun Studio 12 on 7.04... i extracted the tarball and when i went to execute the prepare_system script i got this error: ./prepare_system: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[11:15] <benn92647> -----nickrud it said removing my desktop and removing gnome supprot
[11:15] <redheat> xIke, are you there?
[11:15] <pgar23> need help installing ndiswrapper and some drivers.  CAN ANYONE HELP A NOOB!?!?!?! AIM= trialsize23  PLEASE HELLLLLLLpPPPPPPpPPPPP!!!
[11:15] <xIke> redheat: yeah...  will that link I pointed you to not work for kde?
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | pgar23
[11:15] <ubotu> pgar23: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:15] <redheat> it doesn't work for KDE? right?
[11:15] <beans1337> you guys suck you couild prolly help me in like 2 mins and this hd is driving me nuts and making me want windows back
[11:15] <beans1337> what do i gotta do
[11:15] <beans1337> i followed the instructions on the wiki and it didnt work
[11:15] <nickrud> benn92647, no, it's just removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage; its no big deal. You can add ubuntu-desktop to the end of the aptitude install if you like
[11:15] <benn92647> ---nickron---and indygunfreak---it went crazy and just strarted saying it was removing stuff
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: i already tried to help you and you jdidn't answer.
[11:15] <beans1337> helloooo
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: those are meta packages, you should be fine.
[11:15] <beans1337> hellooooooooooooooo
[11:15] <redheat> xIke, one more last thing, and really sorry for bothering you
[11:16] <XLV> onkarshinde, if its the same as another standard res eg "1280x1024" you got to name it differently eg "1280x1024_mine" or something, then add it as first in screen section
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: are you listening, or are you just trying to be annoying?
[11:16] <redheat> how do I change Gnomes theme?
[11:16] <nickrud> redheat, system-prefs-themes
[11:16] <xIke> redheat: no problem
[11:16] <beans1337> im sorry
[11:16] <xIke> redheat: that depends on what your window decorator is
[11:16] <benn92647> -----nickrud---indygunfreak---indy sorry...nickrud ok did the first one
[11:16] <beans1337> i just suddenly got like a million messages at once i was missing them
[11:16] <xIke> redheat: by default it's metacity in gnome
[11:16] <beans1337> one sec lemme scroll up
[11:16] <onkarshinde> XLV: Can you please explain in detail or paste example xorg.conf?
[11:17] <redheat> I don't use any
[11:17] <xIke> redheat: but if you've installed beryl, you quite possibly may be using emerald
[11:17] <redheat> exactly,
[11:17] <redheat> I have only emerald
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: if you're gonna talk to me, prefix your line with my name, or i won't respond, cuz i won't see the text scroll by
[11:17] <beans1337> yes i see it indy
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[11:17] <beans1337> in places
[11:17] <redheat> how do I installed themes that come packaged in tar.gz format
[11:17] <benn92647> -----nickrud ok i purged everything you said
[11:18] <redheat> I extracted the file to a folder
[11:18] <xIke> then go to system:preferences:emerald theme manager to change themes
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: if you see the drive there, then its probably just not in the proper file format for you to use it(its probably ntfs)....
[11:18] <redheat> but still it won't install
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: is the new drive for windows, or is it for ubuntu, or both?
[11:18] <nickrud> benn92647, ok sudo aptitude install firefox ubuntu-desktop
[11:18] <vocx> beans1337, if you could point to the guide you are following that would be useful. (I still hate you for calling us suckers)
[11:18] <beans1337> i put it in ext3
[11:18] <xIke> redheat: yeah, I did that too when I first started
[11:18] <onkarshinde> XLV: Also, I am using i810 driver. Please tell me if I need to change that.
[11:18] <benn92647> ----nickrud you sure?  LOL *big smile*  ok here we go
[11:18] <xIke> redheat: it actually will take the archive and install from that...you don't have to decompress first
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: you probably need to chmod it so you have permission to use it.
[11:18] <Geekosaur> join #openoffice
[11:19] <Geekosaur> Sorry!
[11:19] <beans1337> its all ubuntu
[11:19] <beans1337> i am the base user
[11:19] <redheat> ok, xIke, can you help me with this one..
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: ok, and what happens when you try to write to it?.. do you get a permission not granted, or something like that?
[11:19] <vocx> beans1337, also put your /etc/fstab in a pastebin, along with the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:19] <redheat> I have a theme called Ununto Glassy
[11:19] <xIke> redheat: did that work?
[11:19] <redheat> and I downloaded it
[11:20] <vocx> !paste | beans1337
[11:20] <ubotu> beans1337: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:20] <redheat> I haven't tried it yet
[11:20] <redheat> so just bear with me for a little
[11:20] <benn92647> linux rulea!..just be patient and know that it's not windows so you will need to install alot of stuff through terminal commands
[11:20] <ac-town> Im getting a error that /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is missing
[11:20] <ac-town> How would i fix it
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: you know i must be lucky, i've never had to add anything to fstab, nothing
[11:20] <beans1337> huh what is fstab
[11:20] <redheat> I opened Emerald, and I tried to import the theme but it didn't see it
[11:20] <soulecho> Is there anybody here who has had experience installing Sun Studio 12 on Ubuntu?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> !fstab
[11:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:20] <nickrud> ac-town, it's now /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; what ancient thing are you installing?
[11:20] <beans1337> i cant even make a folder in the drive
[11:20] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak...its cause your perfect and everything you do comes out perfect
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: lots not push it..lol
[11:21] <XLV> onkarshinde, no, i810 should work.. well, eg your tv has res 1366x864 and you want 60Hz refresh.. you write the command gtf 1366 864 75
[11:21] <ac-town> nvidia-gtx
[11:21] <xIke> redheat: and that was the archive, not the decompressed folder?
[11:21] <redheat> no it didn't work?
[11:21] <ac-town> nvidia-glx*
[11:21] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak--hey you need a little jinxing ")
[11:21] <B52doc> where are program files stored under wine ?
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: sometimes luck is just as good as perfection..lol
[11:21] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, it is really great to change fstab, because they even tell you that is sysadmin stuff, you know, you are in command.
[11:21] <redheat> yes, I decompressed it and it didn't see anything at all
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: naa... i was just trying to get my tomtom to work w/ roadnav.. don't think its gonna happen though
[11:21] <benn92647> ---nickrud..ok i did it now what
[11:21] <redheat> I meant the emerald theme editor
[11:22] <XLV> onkarshinde, then you take that modeline, and you paste it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Section "Monitor" ( in which you should have by now input the specs of your tv )
[11:22] <redheat> it saw nothing
[11:22] <onkarshinde> XLV: I have done that. I have added modeline to xorg.conf. What I want to know is how to make it default entry in 'Screen' section.
[11:22] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak..that's why we dual boot LOL
[11:22] <xIke> redheat: that's what i'm trying to say...don't decompress
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: i gotcha.., i only have my main drive, and a 500gig usb external, and they've always worked fine.
[11:22] <XLV> onkarshinde, you must enter it before all others in all bit depths...
[11:22] <xIke> redheat: let emerald theme manager open the archive
[11:22] <dts> is it possible to upgrade from dapper to feisty in one step?
[11:22] <beans1337> indy i can see the hd, there is a lost and found folder in it. i cannot right click it and make a folder the option is greyed out
[11:22] <redheat> ok, I tried to use the archive
[11:22] <nickrud> benn92647, let's try this: go to youtube, and when it says it needs a plugin, let it install
[11:22] <ipx> Can anyone give me the feisty repos for wine that gives me the newest version all the time
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: sigh.. i know... thats why i had to give xp 15gigs of my life back.
[11:22] <redheat> it didn't see at all
[11:22] <benn92647> ---nickrud ok
[11:22] <redheat> either as an archive or as a decomprssed folder
[11:23] <XLV> onkarshinde, eg if it was "1280x1024" "1024x768" etc, its got to be "1366x864" "1280x1024"  etc
[11:23] <benn92647> ----indygunfreak---we are all slaves to the mighty Gates LOL
[11:23] <nickrud> dualboot, vmware works just fine
[11:23] <xIke> redheat: and you're sure you downloaded an emerald theme?  not a metacity or other such theme?
[11:23] <onkarshinde> XLV: Ok. Will try it and be back in 5-1- minutes hopefully
[11:23] <redheat> wait?
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: you do not have permission to edit the drive, thus why you can't us it...., you need to give your user privileges of the device.
[11:23] <redheat> I downloaded from the Gnome theme website
[11:23] <redheat> that's all I know..
[11:23] <redheat> you know that famous website
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> ipx: ?  jut add the wine repo to your repo list, it wil update automatically when new versions come out.
[11:24] <xIke> redheat: gnome-look
[11:24] <ipx> IndyGunFreak: i want the repo to add :)
[11:24] <xIke> redheat: those are probably metacity themes
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> ipx: http://www.winehq.com
[11:24] <ubuntu> bvbmnm jhjh
[11:24] <ipx> thanks, didnt know it was so obvious
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> ipx: thats not the repo, thats where you get the repo.
[11:24] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, I really believe beans1337 is ignoring me... Well anyways, I'm gonna watch TV... so good luck to both.
[11:24] <beans1337> voxc what do i do to make it so i can use my hd?
[11:24] <xIke> redheat: you want to either use emerald themer's ability to get new themes (download gpl themes, download non-gpl themes) or go to themes.beryl-project.org and grab themes there
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: noooooooooooooooooooo
[11:25] <ipx> IndyGunFreak: yep i know :)
[11:25] <ipx> thanks
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> ipx: oh ok..lol
[11:25] <ipx> i didnt figure it was that easy
[11:25] <ipx> :)
[11:25] <redheat> ok roger that
[11:25] <savvas> why is irssi 0.8.11 still in backports? i've tested it and it's working 100% - even better than the old version
[11:25] <beans1337> ack im not getting the messages again
[11:25] <redheat> thank thank and another thank you a million times for your help and for the time you've given me
[11:25] <redheat> thank you my friend so much for your help
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: what messages?
[11:25] <redheat> and to all of you gals/guys
[11:25] <benn92647> --nickrud;;;UGGH! it still wont play sound
[11:25] <redheat> thank you
[11:26] <vocx> !thanks | redheat
[11:26] <ubotu> redheat: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:26] <LytiKaL1337> Hello?
[11:26] <redheat> haha
[11:26] <redheat> roger that
[11:26] <naksha> hi folks
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> !sorry | redheat
[11:26] <ubotu> redheat: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[11:26] <xIke> lol
[11:26] <onkarshinde> XLV: Also any idea how to configure 4.1 speaker system?
[11:26] <benn92647> ------nickrud it still refuses to play sound
[11:26] <LytiKaL1337> Debian>Fedora
[11:26] <naksha> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783   how can i resolve this?
[11:26] <redheat> no worries at all
[11:26] <redheat> thank you for keeping this IRC chat clean,
[11:26] <andreasjdkj> Can i split up a PDF file so that I can exclude page 1 and 2 from the finished product, which still has to be in pdf format?
[11:26] <naksha> There's nothing on the sources.list thats related to medibuntu.. When I was in feisty, I tried to get a theme off the medibuntu repository.
[11:26] <bruenig> naksha, you need to get the key from medibuntu
[11:27] <onkarshinde> naksha: You fotgot to import GPG key of medibuntu repos
[11:27] <redheat> we all have been down that trodden road of bad IRC chat channels, and this would be a good opportunity not to create another one around here
[11:27] <naksha> i don't have the source in sources.list
[11:27] <redheat> thank you all
[11:27] <naksha> so whats up?
[11:27] <redheat> take care
[11:27] <nickrud> benn92647, now go put the     FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"   in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[11:27] <redheat> Bye
[11:27] <andreasjdkj> En dansker.....
[11:27] <beans1337> im sorry vox and uindy i keep getting the messages in giant chunks
[11:28] <naksha> I don't have medibuntu in the sources.list so why is ubuntu asking me for the key?
[11:28] <vocx> beans1337, it's called "lag", it happens...
[11:28] <nickrud> benn92647, then restart firefox
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> beans1337: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[11:28] <andreasjdkj> Can i remove some pages from a pdf file?
[11:28] <beans1337> im the only user how can i not have permission
[11:28] <XLV> onkarshinde, you have to set up alsa mixer, its a little complex, creating a proper .asoundrc config file for the mixer... look for alsa 4.1 setup in google or something
[11:28] <nailz> lo, whats the best way to uninstall clamav?
[11:29] <naksha> this is my sources.list
[11:29] <naksha> http://pastebin.com/m37798c47
[11:29] <bruenig> nailz, how did you install it?
[11:29] <joshritger> can someone tell me how to change the mountpoint of a fat32 drive?
[11:29] <jcs7778> is there a compiz fusion channel?
[11:29] <bruenig> naksha, medibuntu installs lists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[11:29] <onkarshinde> XLV: Ok. I will search google
[11:29] <benn92647> ---nickrud it wont let me edit it and save...do i need to use a shell exstensiojn?
[11:29] <naksha> bruenig: hmmm didn't know that.. but why?
[11:29] <bruenig> naksha, because that is the point of sources.list.d
[11:30] <benn92647> ----nickrud i opened it in text editor
[11:30] <bruenig> naksha, it allows for very clean sources addition without having to edit files
[11:30] <nickrud> benn92647, do gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc    ; the files in /etc are system files, and are owned by root.
[11:30] <KleRo1> hello, does someone knows what is the "default adress" of the HDA Intel? i'm trying to make teamspeak work but I can't seem to be able to hear or speak.. and I think it's because teamspeak doesnt automatically detects HDA intel and goes with some other oss device
[11:30] <naksha> bruenig: so how do I go about removing it?
[11:30] <bruenig> naksha, simple delete the file
[11:30] <bruenig> simply*
[11:30] <xeer> does anyone one have experience with dmraid? i have the offset to my raid controller but i cant find the spot in the source to insert it so i can recompile
[11:30] <naksha> okies..
[11:31] <naksha> bruenig: thanks..
[11:31] <nailz> sweet, ty
[11:31] <benn92647> ---nickrud  well here goes
[11:32] <coldsun> anyone here know how to install on a evga680I mobo with a raid 5 running?
[11:33] <nickrud> KleRo1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak has some sound advice (hopefully not a pun) at the bottom
[11:33] <KleRo1> oh okay thanks nickrud altho im not sure of what a pun is
[11:34] <vocx> !paste > beans1337
[11:34] <benn92647> ----nickrud nope even with the aoss
[11:34] <nickrud> KleRo1, eh. Non native english? Sound advice colloquial for good advice
[11:34] <benn92647> ------nickrud what is the possiblity of it being a port problem?
[11:34] <KleRo1> oh yes i think thats the right thing nickrud... but how do i run teamspeak with the "aoss" command?  and no, i'm not native english, i'm italian :p
[11:35] <joshritger> how do I change the mount point of a drive?
[11:35] <nickrud> benn92647, do    dpkg -l alsa-oss     in a terminal, are the two characters in the first two columns ii ?
[11:35] <vocx> !it
[11:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:35] <B-rabbit> hi guyz...i am running backtrack on virtual box....and i added a new user, but when ever i log-out of the virtual machine the new user i added is not there any more....i tryed doing this several times...without success.....any help will be greatly appreciated :)
[11:35] <TimeTraveller> hey .. i just got a new computer and i want my old evolution config (with mail and calendar etc.) and i just copied the whole .evolution map from my old disk to the new ... i got all my mails but my tasks and accounts failed ... anyone know what this can be ?
[11:36] <Pinion_Blue> when i run the 7.04 cd i click start or install ubuntu and it goes into loading and freezes there
[11:36] <benn92647> ---nickrud want me to pastebin the results..looks bad
[11:36] <nickrud> KleRo1, you'd install alsa-oss , then in a terminal type aoss teamspeak (or whatever the teamspeak command is) to test
[11:36] <nickrud> benn92647, just the one line that has alsa-oss in it
[11:36] <coldsun> anyone here know how to install on a evga680I mobo with a raid 5 running? im a total linux noob but decided its time to dump windows
[11:36] <KleRo1> allright thanks nickrud
[11:36] <Some_Person> When I installed "kubuntu-desktop" and dependencies on my Ubuntu install, the usplash theme changed to Kubuntu. How do I flip it back?
[11:37] <benn92647> ----nickrud....un  alsa-oss       <none>         (no description available)
[11:37] <nickrud> benn92647, ok sudo aptitude install alsa-oss , then restart firefox
[11:37] <kitche> !usplash | Some_Person
[11:37] <ubotu> Some_Person: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:38] <benn92647> ---nickrud nope :(
[11:39] <naksha> i think i've got a circular dependency problem.. http://pastebin.com/m4991abc9 can someone help me resolve it
[11:39] <aguitel> anyone know how setup some USB modem dsl ?
[11:39] <naksha> it seems the update cannot install gnomad2 and rythmbox
[11:39] <nickrud> benn92647, then I've reached my limits here, sorry
[11:40] <benn92647> ---nickrud no problem, LOL indygunfreak has been helping me for 2 days for like a total of 8 hours and we still havent figured it out
[11:40] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: lol,
[11:40] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, some issues suck, don't they
[11:40] <B52doc> woo Hoo got steam to work with Wine :)
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: i just couldn't figure it out, its drove me nuts
[11:41] <benn92647> ----nickrud i need to find a way to manually force firrefox to a port and then manually configure that port to go to soundout through my card
[11:41] <nickrud> benn92647, that's essentially what aoss is supposed to do.
[11:42] <Gizmo_the_Great> Hi. How can I get Ubuntu to show me a listing of all the files created today?
[11:42] <benn92647> ----indygunfreak I have an esy one for you..how do i edit grub to allow me the option to boot XP
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: lol, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and change your timer...
[11:42] <benn92647> --nickrud the sound is probably coming out but not thru my speakers
[11:42] <naksha> according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/133193, it should be fine if I remove rythmbox with libmtp5 but i cant
[11:43] <nickrud> Gizmo_the_Great, http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/01/19/find-files-that-are-modified-today-or-since-certain-time-ago-in-unix/
[11:43] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak but wher do i put in the winows xp boot option?
[11:43] <naksha> http://pastebin.com/d215ac768
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: oh, you don't have a windows boot option?
[11:43] <Gizmo_the_Great> nickrud, thanks!
[11:44] <benn92647> ---indygunfreak said command not found
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: then you entered it wrong
[11:44] <benn92647> ----let me get back to you...im going to hook up the windows drive now
[11:44] <nickrud> Gizmo_the_Great, a tip: using "linux" or "unix" in a google search really helps: that was number one on "unix find today's files"
[11:45] <somerandomguy12> Um, I have a file that totem (both the gstreamer and the xine versions) can't play. It's WMV3 in AVI. Any ideas?
[11:45] <somerandomguy12> And before anyone asks, yes, I do have w32codecs
[11:45] <Gizmo_the_Great> nickrud, erm, thanks for the help but, as with many questions asked here, sometimes it's difficult to know what to ask Google to find the answers you want.
[11:45] <nickrud> somerandomguy12, you can try vlc
[11:46] <somerandomguy12> nickrud, yeah, it plays in MPlayer. I was just hoping to make totem play it since that's what seems to be used for generating thumbnails.
[11:46] <nickrud> Gizmo_the_Great, very true. it's just a hint, not a criticism. I've been blindeyed also
[11:47] <walkover> which is the fastest: pow(x,2) or x*x?
[11:47] <walkover> x is int
[11:47] <nickrud> walkover, depends on the language, both should end up as the same machine code
[11:47] <NoiZe> :
[11:47] <NoiZe> :)
[11:47] <lifeforms> Q: I upgraded a Ubuntu 6.06 LTS machine to new hardware which has another onboard NIC (rtl8139); it is detected and assigned eth0 in dmesg, but it's not in ifconfig and 'ifconfig eth0' gives 'Device not found'; is there anything I must do to enable this new NIC?
[11:48] <relix> Hey, my clock doesn't synchronize
[11:48] <relix> and the button "synchronize now" is disabled
[11:48] <walkover> im pretty shure its not the same in mashine code. should pow(x,10) then be x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x*x
[11:48] <aaanone> if I am installing software from an SVN repository, is there something I need to do to make sure apt knows about it?
[11:48] <relix> anything I can do?
[11:48] <nickrud> walkover, ideally it gets optomized during compilation. Heavy on the ideally
[11:49] <walkover> yeah
[11:49] <nickrud> walkover, so again, depends on the language and compiler
[11:49] <walkover> its c++ and gcc
[11:49] <walkover> iso c++
[11:50] <bulmer> lifeforms: try ifup eth0
[11:50] <salah_> hi. after login on, gnome simply freezes and nothing more than the loading panel is showed. the happened after changing the xorg.conf file, reinstalling my screen driver. any idea how to restore the desktop?
[11:50] <walkover> backup of your xorg.conf ??
[11:51] <salah_> walkover, then the screen won't work properly
[11:51] <imbecile> anyone, what is a cdi file?
[11:51] <walkover> but did it work before you tampered with it ?
[11:51] <somerandomguy12> imbecile, it could be several things, tried google?
[11:51] <salah_> imbecile, http://filext.com/file-extension/CDI
[11:52] <salah_> walkover, yes
[11:52] <imbecile> im googling right now
[11:52] <somerandomguy12> well, I did your work for you. Looks like some kind of disc emulator format.
[11:52] <imbecile> salah) thanks
[11:52] <somerandomguy12> proprietary.
[11:53] <nickrud> walkover, it's an old article but has some useful links if you want to investigate further: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/730/
[11:53] <imbecile> somerandomguy12:  thanks
[11:53] <benn92647> WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:53] <vocx> worked?
[11:53] <benn92647> IT WORKS!
[11:53] <nickrud> by jove, I think he's got it
[11:53] <benn92647> I love amy winehouse
[11:53] <B52doc> Woo Hoo got Day of Defeat working on my Ubuntu Machine !!!!!!!!!!!
[11:54] <vocx> I'll tell IndyGunFreak
[11:54] <benn92647> -----vocx thank you :)
[11:54] <nickrud> benn92647, so, what was the fix?
[11:54] <benn92647> ---nickrud...your gonna laugh
[11:54] <Some_Person> I get this message after I log in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34110/
[11:54] <eegore> getting ready to blow out my old 32 bit Dapper boot
[11:54] <n0dding0ff> Is there a PHP expert who would like to join me in a private channel?
[11:54] <somerandomguy12> Gutsy is at Alpha 4, right?
[11:54] <nickrud> benn92647, won't be thefirst time
[11:54] <lifeforms> A: The MAC address in /etc/iftab had to be changed to reflect the new card.
[11:54] <benn92647> ---nickrud...i had to restart my computer
[11:54] <nickrud> lol
[11:55] <benn92647> ---nickrud somethings you just cant get way from
[11:55] <eegore> Kubuntu is everywhere
[11:55] <ecaandrew> hey can i ask a question :(
[11:55] <ecaandrew> i am having trouble installing php5 with apache 2
[11:55] <Some_Person> I get this message after I log in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34110/
[11:55] <n0dding0ff> ecaandrew: Me too.
[11:56] <ecaandrew> i used apt-get to install apache, and than used apt-get to install php5
[11:56] <n0dding0ff> Nothing shows up when I do a "hello world" program.
[11:56] <ecaandrew> apt-get libapach2-mod-php5
[11:56] <eegore> missing a library?
[11:56] <Some_Person> Please help me!
[11:56] <ecaandrew> restarted apache, and still php isnt working.... but apache works fine
[11:56] <ecaandrew> any idea?
[11:56] <eegore> in your declarations?
[11:56] <ecaandrew> how do i check?
[11:57] <benn92647> ---nickrud what is the line to input in grub so i can boot from my windows xo drive?
[11:57] <Some_Person> Please help me!
[11:57] <eegore> ecaandrew: got a printout of the code?
[11:57] <nickrud> ecaandrew, sudo a2enmod php5
[11:57] <nickrud> benn92647, a sec.
[11:57] <Some_Person> Please help me!
[11:57] <barbarella> ecaandrew:you have to install apache2-mpm-prefork
[11:57] <benn92647> ---nickrud np
[11:57] <ecaandrew> well it prompts me to download the php file
[11:57] <westron5000> are there any good file defragmenters or file checker programs for ubuntu?
[11:58] <westron5000> or file cleanups
[11:58] <Some_Person> Please help me!
[11:58] <eegore> Some_Person: can you be specific?"?
[11:58] <imbecile> Some_Person:  did you install some drivers for yr keyboard?
[11:58] <ecaandrew> apache2-mpm-prefork?
[11:58] <Some_Person> I get this message after I log in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34110/
[11:58] <Some_Person> imbecile: no
[11:58] <jellymaster> How would I set up wireless for a linksys on this? I finally got it installed but the software for my wireless card for my desktop says: Designed specifically for windows >.<
[11:58] <Some_Person> imbecile: unless they come with kde, which i recently added to my ubuntu install
[11:58] <nickrud> benn92647, add http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34111/ to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst , and windows will be on your boot menu
[11:58] <n0dding0ff> Is there a PHP expert out there?
[11:58] <ecaandrew> it says its installed under my package manager
[11:59] <Some_Person> imbecile: i thought removing kde might fix it, but it didn't
[11:59] <Pici> n0dding0ff: #php
[11:59] <benn92647> ---nickrud its a sepreate hadr drive does that matter
[11:59] <nickrud> benn92647, ah, a sec
[11:59] <barbarella> westron5000:defrag in linux?
[11:59] <ProN00b> does anyone know how i can enable autologin as root ? (with gdm it doesn't seem to work, even when manually configuring it)
[12:00] <ecaandrew> barbarella: any idea what else it might be, why it wont view the php page?
[12:00] <imbecile> im looking for an answer
[12:00] <Some_Person> imbecile: The gconf command it says to run outputs this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34112/
[12:00] <benn92647> -----nickrud i remeber it being something like window family ???
[12:00] <Pici> ProN00b: Why would you want to do that?
[12:01] <nickrud> benn92647, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34111/ instead
[12:01] <imbecile> Some_Person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22617


[20:06] <bazhang> fix my bmw! I use ubuntu
[20:25] <bazhang> utf-8 = stranger danger
[20:26] <genii> Seems so :)
 I'm using 16.04
[21:20] <bazhang> apt-get install toolchain
[21:20] <genii> Hm
[21:21] <bazhang> !xevious
[21:21] <bazhang> what!
[21:22] <Unit193> !xenial, dimwit! :---D
[21:22] <bazhang> some of the emacs hackeration must have borked the bot
[21:23] <bazhang> @random emacs emacs vim emacs
[21:23] <bazhang> hahahaha
[21:24] <bazhang> if you lost the bot, you've lost the war
[21:27] <Unit193> bazhang: Which bot?  ubottu or Drone`?
[21:27] <genii> ... either
[21:28] <bazhang> Unit193, it's a paraphrase of 'if you lost walter cronkite..etc etc'
[21:29] <Unit193> Sure, just had to go with it though!
[21:29] <bazhang> chu wont like those results!
[21:49] <genii> k1l_: Beat me to it
[21:49] <bazhang>  [nemdiggers] #ubuntu
[21:49] <bazhang> no way thats a troll
[21:49] <Unit193> [16:49:23] There is no such nick nemdiggers
[21:49] <Unit193> Huh.
[21:50] <k1l_> had told him in pm and "is there a rule against it?" was his answer
[21:51] <genii> It's either the same guy or same crew that do this a lot, offensive racist names or slurs with some of the letters reversed. Been going on for a while now, they already know better
[21:51] <Unit193> Yes, we have a rule requiring common sense, you broke it: http://i.imgur.com/VwNkNyW.jpg
[21:52] <k1l_> yeah, i suspect it the same troll as the other ones with racists nicks with  some twisted letters
[23:44] <popey> uh
[23:46] <k1l_> have set +r for #u
[23:46] <Pricey> bots?
[23:46] <k1l_> yep
[23:47] <Unit193> Drone` would have done it too soon.
[23:49] <k1l_> good bot
[23:50] <k1l_> what is drone running as software?
[23:50] <Unit193> I can't parse that.
[23:51] <k1l_> erm. ubottu is a supybot. what is drone? or did you hack that yourself?
[23:51] <Unit193> Limnoria+ChanTracker+ChanReg.
[23:52] <k1l_> ah ok. thanks
[23:56] <k1l_> set -r again since its quiet support wise now anyway


[02:38] <tsimonq2> do we have a mail client in Lubuntu?
[02:39] <tsimonq2> ianorlin: would you happen to know if there is a default mail client in Lubuntu?
[02:40] <ianorlin> sylpheed
[02:40] <tsimonq2> ahh thanks


[00:18] <MelmaK> Hi
[00:42] <manzoor> Hey
[00:42] <manzoor> pretty neat, a chatroom for this OS
[00:43] <manzoor> I should have said Hello World..
[03:59] <newscripter> hi guys. What's the difference between "Ubuntu MATE" and "GNOME 2" in the pre-made panel configs?
[07:36] <mate|74984> hello
[07:36] <mate|74984> anyone here?
[07:36] <mate|74984> i've installed lxde as an additional option but its not showing on light dm.. any ideas?
[10:23] <mate|27631> hello. i've install lxde and it doesn't show up as an option on lightdm
[10:23] <mate|27631> any ideas why?
[10:24] <mate|27631> i want a lighter DE when doing intensive thjings
[10:27] <mate|27631> ?
[10:27] <ouroumov> mate|27631, have you asked on the forum?
[10:29] <mate|27631> not yet
[10:30] <ouroumov> mate|27631, if you post on the forums @ https://ubuntu-mate.community/c/support you'll have better visibility
[11:15] <TaZeR> ubuntu-mate the one buntu to rule them all!
[12:23] <omega> how can i format a flash in Ubuntu mate
[12:39] <ouroumov> omega, hi
[12:40] <ouroumov> omega, you have a built-in "disk" utility in System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Disks
[12:40] <ouroumov> omega, you can also install "gparted", a slightly more advanced tool.
[14:30] <ubuntu-mate> hola
[14:31] <ubuntu-mate> power mac g5 no me arranca con la instalacion de ubuntu mate
[15:28] <RFleming> Morning!
[15:31] <ouroumov> hi RFleming
[15:32] <RFleming> how goes it ouroumov
[15:33] <ouroumov> it goes
[15:54] <RFleming> ouroumov: I hear ya.
[16:42] <mahdyfo> hi There isn't any gimp on ubuntu mate ?!
[17:05] <mate|45947> Good day, all. My only ISP choice, Charter, replaced our equipment with a router that I have zero access to. Is there any way to share files over two networks (wireless is 10.2.194.x and wired is 10.10.10.x) without going using their locked down router?
[17:06] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, they've firewalled the two nets?
[17:06] <mate|45947> ikr :/
[17:07] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, have you tested to see if the two nets are firewalled?
[17:08] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, because it's unusual to have that kind of firewall configuration on stock routers
[17:08] <ouroumov_> usually if there's a firewall it between WAN and LAN, not between two LAN nets
[17:11] <mate|45947> Oh, sry, I'm not sure how to test that. The router is hidden inside the wall and it only has a single ethernet port to it. That's where I plugged in my main PC (10.10.10.x). It's running an emby server, to which connections from the wireless network timeout.
[17:11] <ouroumov_> What's the OS on both machines?
[17:11] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu MATE ?
[17:12] <ouroumov_> (wtf a wall-hidden router, those guys are crazy)
[17:12] <mate|45947> Mate on this machine (the PC), but windows and android on the wireless ones
[17:13] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, I don't suppose you know an equivalent to "netcat" for windows?
[17:13] <mate|45947> no but i can google ;)
[17:15] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, start by running an nmap scan of your wireless net from your UM machine:
[17:15] <ouroumov_> 1. sudo apt install nmap
[17:15] <ouroumov_> 2. sudo nmap -sS -T5 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:15] <ouroumov_> If you see ports open on the windows host it's unlikely that there's a firewall between the two nets
[17:16] <mate|45947> understood
[17:20] <mate|45947> Ok, i ran the nmap scan from an ubuntu gnome laptop on the wireless network. Open ports on the router are 21, 22, 23, 53, 80, 443 and 2000 (port 2000 is "MikroTik bandwidth-test server"). Open ports on the windows rig are 139 and 445.
[17:22] <ouroumov_> So yeah, no firewall (I think)
[17:22] <Akuli> i like to turn on my firewall
[17:22] <ouroumov_> mate|45947, maybe it's a server configuration issue?
[17:22] <Akuli> nothing really listens to an incoming connection, but it doesn't matter me and allowing stuff through is easy
[17:23] <mate|45947> I have no idea, not yet network literate heh
[17:23] <mate|45947> right
[17:24] <ouroumov_> I'm gonna have to quit so I can eat food tonight. mate|45947 maybe you could consider buying a decent router and plug it in the only available port?
[17:24] <ouroumov_> bbl
[18:24] <brian_> I am using ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS, And i have two slight issues... One is that the volume control on the top panel is unusable (it shows a audio icon but three dashes and shows nothing when clicked....) and second is it opened two sessions of spotify and is now playing one song, and if i press play on my keyboard it wont stop, but instead the one it shows in the client starts to play...
[18:25] <ouroumov_> brian_, go to mate tweak
[18:25] <brian_> nevermind about that second one, simply just entered killall spotify into the terminal
[18:25] <ouroumov_> brian_, under interface, check "enable indicators"
[18:25] <brian_> ouroumov_, it is.
[18:25] <ouroumov_> hù
[18:26] <brian_> ouroumov_, its just that one volume indicator
[18:26] <ouroumov_> That's weird, it usually behaves well with other players
[18:26] <ouroumov_> (Banshee, Clementine, etc)
[18:26] <brian_> ouroumov_, earlier it showed the volume controls when clicked, but adjusting it didn't pause the music playing or change the volume...
[18:27] <ouroumov_> I don't use spotify myself but maybe you can ask on our forums see if other people can reproduce this behavior?
[18:28] <brian_> ouroumov_, its not spotify thats the problem... even the default music player... and it wont change the system volume at all... the slider moves but nothing happens.
[18:28] <ouroumov_> very weird
[18:28] <ouroumov_> Do you have more than one sound card?
[18:28] <brian_> ouroumov_, i found a ubuntu forums post of my problem, but the page wont load (every other webpage does)
[18:29] <brian_> ouroumov_, no. I think its a integrated sound chip, i have a commercial desktop (Dell XPS 8700 Special Edition: Gtx 745)
[18:30] <brian_> ouroumov_, everything works fine on my seperate Ubuntu 16.04 running unity...
[18:30] <ouroumov_> Well I don't know how to help, sorry
[18:31] <brian_> ouroumov_, okay, Well, is there some way i can uninstall the indicator applet and reinstall?
[18:31] <brian_> ouroumov_, i haven't really ever needed to mess with the indicators on a distro... so im not sure of the details on that... Is it all one service?
[18:32] <mate|57587> whats the current non bloatware reputable anti virus software/ definitely not avast
[18:33] <Akuli> mate|57587, common sense 2.0
[18:33] <mate|57587> inb4 no anti virus software
[18:33] <ouroumov_> brian_, I don't know sorry. Again, you're welcome to ask on our forums (better visibility)
[18:33] <brian_> ouroumov_, okay. Thanks though.
[18:33] <mate|57587> yeah I know ;P but Im paranoid and wwant it anyway
[18:33] <Akuli> mate|57587, then update your system every day
[18:34] <Akuli> sudo aptitude update, then after that sudo aptitude upgrade
[18:34] <brian_> mate|57587, If you really want one...  I originally wanted one... but i've since changed my mind and haven't used one in months.
[18:35] <Akuli> eset is after all a nonfree product. clamav is not, but that also means its practically useless when it comes to detecting new threats
[18:36] <mate|57587> ubuntu team is so good that updating is as good as antibirus software?
[18:36] <Akuli> yes
[18:36] <Akuli> viruses don't magically "come" to your computer
[18:36] <Akuli> they come in through your web browser, so you might also want an ad blocker
[18:36] <brian_> 99.9% chance it will never detect anything, as your system will be clean. (the only thing you should do is configure your firewall (a good one is UFW) use a good adblocker (system wide, or web browser (i like Adguard)))
[18:37] <Akuli> ((())()()))
[18:37] <Akuli> lol :D
[18:37] <brian_> lol... im so used to doing that
[18:37] <Akuli> :)
[18:38] <Akuli> so we have: 1) common sense 2) more common sense 3) updates 4) ufw 5) ad blocker
[18:38] <Akuli> that's way better than just a stupid antivirus
[18:38] <mate|57587> okay
[18:38] <brian_> mate|57587, found this intresting a while ago, still have a website saved with some intresting python scripts... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus
[18:39] <Akuli> lol 2007
[18:39] <Akuli> 2001
[18:40] <brian_> Akuli, it specifically states none of them do damage anyways... They mostly were only proof of concepts and only infected files if allowed root.
[18:40] <Akuli> still good advice though
[18:40] <mate|57587> thanks botth of you
[18:40] <Akuli> right.. root permissions are one of the big reasons why antivirus isn't really necessary
[18:40] <Akuli> and why sudo shouldn't be abused
[18:42] <brian_> I like how this IRC is much more chilled, Yet still active.
[18:42] <Akuli> :)
[18:42] <Akuli> one more thing: what would you do if you would somehow get infected?
[18:43] <Akuli> 1) create a new user account and log into it 2) change passwords.
[18:43] <Akuli> and you're done. viruses can't have root access so they'll be stuck in your old account.
[18:44] <brian_> Akuli, Try clamAV, Change my user passwords, Update system, Disconnect internet and use another device for learning... And if nothing else, Wipe using my drive i have sitting by and use my file backups and think back to what i installed recently that brought the infection
[18:44] <brian_> and search up the system proccess ID and do research on it too.
[18:45] <Akuli> really, clamav is for checking, not for cleaning
[18:45] <brian_> But it would give a idea of what it is, so i can take care of it
[18:45] <Akuli> reinstall is the one and true way if it has gotten root access though
[18:45] <brian_> Well if its a replicator, i'd reinstall... since i frequently switch distros anyways i already have a SD card with all my files
[18:46] <Akuli> :)
[18:46] <rahtgaz> speaking of which, is Aptik a good solution for those of us wishing to reinstall out systems once and a while? Has anyone used it>?
[18:46] <Akuli> i need to go now, if someone wants to tell me something leave me memos :) /msg memoserv help send
[18:47] <brian_> rahtgaz, i dont know what that is, but i just use multiple flash drives (16 GB usually.) and keep my files backed up on a SD card regularly.
[18:48] <rahtgaz> Yeah. I do full backups of my home directory too. However, a reinstall annoys me bedcause of all the packages I installed before and I can no longer remember
[18:48] <brian_> rahtgaz, lol i use the ghetto way... Mostly dropbox and text files
[18:48] <rahtgaz> I can test Aptik which is supposed to tell you what you have installed before. I'm just wondering if anyone had used it before.
[18:49] <rahtgaz> yeah.
[18:49] <brian_> rahtgaz, does it tell you or keep a record so that it reinstalls everything later for you?
[18:50] <brian_> rahtgaz, looked at it, going to check it out.
[18:51] <rahtgaz> It has some options to restore packages if you backup them through it. But I don't like that type of automation. It's always a source of problems
[18:51] <brian_> rahtgaz, looks like you can store the backups on dropbox or google drive
[18:52] <rahtgaz> right. But I don't want that. I just want it to tell me what I had installed.
[18:52] <rahtgaz> I prefer manuall ijnstalling stuff myself
[18:52] <brian_> rahtgaz, just use a text editor, or create a python program to do it.
[18:52] <rahtgaz> sorry for the typos
[18:53] <rahtgaz> That's not a problem. Was just wondering about this application ability to cut on that work
[18:53] <brian_> i mean you could also make a python app to store cloud backups like i want, but i'd rather use some service
[18:54] <brian_> rahtgaz, yeah, its local it seems, its just that it allows you to use dropbox or google drive if its installed on your system and it sends the files to the folder that the clouds provide.
[18:55] <brian_> it looks like it also copies the themes and app data and zips it neatly.
[18:57] <rahtgaz> that is part of the home directory backup I do daily. So that I don't need. Guess i'll just use apt and grep to create a list of installed packages and set it to run with cron or before shutdown
[19:01] <ubuntu-mate> y
[19:02] <rahtgaz> =13
[19:02] <rahtgaz> ;
[19:18] <b6s3d> hi
[19:18] <b6s3d> how do i install for uefi?
[19:18] <b6s3d> which tools do i need
[19:24] <ouroumov_> hi b6s3d
[19:24] <ouroumov_> you don't need any particular tool
[19:24] <ouroumov_> just burn your USB drive as per the website, and make sure you boot it in uefi mode
[19:26] <Legend> hey guys
[19:44] <alkisg> b6s3d: you don't need any tools, just the mate 64bit live cd
[19:59] <ubuntu-mate> hey
[19:59] <ubuntu-mate> after installing ubuntu mate i can't boot it from mmcblk0p1, on my lenovo ideapad 100s
[20:03] <alkisg> What is the error message?
[20:05] <ubuntu-mate> boot menu
[20:06] <ubuntu-mate> i have disabled uefi fully in bios menu
[20:06] <alkisg> "boot menu" is a strange message for an error
[20:06] <ubuntu-mate> THere is no error message
[20:07] <alkisg> Can your laptop boot from the sd card?
[20:07] <ubuntu-mate> i don't think so
[20:07] <ubuntu-mate> i am going to try to install windows on a sd card
[20:08] <alkisg> Well then how could mate boot if the laptop doesn't support it...
[20:08] <alkisg> Use a hard disk, or a usb disk/stick
[20:08] <ubuntu-mate> live usb
[20:08] <ubuntu-mate> is there any tools to make it bootable
[20:08] <alkisg> mmcblk0p1 is the sdcard
[20:08] <alkisg> It's not a live usb
[20:08] <ubuntu-mate> so i should install it on a usb stick?
[20:09] <alkisg> No, install it on the hard disk
[20:09] <alkisg> The hard disk is sda
[20:09] <ubuntu-mate> there is no room for harddisk's
[20:10] <alkisg> What internal storage does it have?
[20:10] <ubuntu-mate> mmcblk0p1
[20:10] <ubuntu-mate> mmcblk0p
[20:11] <alkisg> Is that the internal storage, or the external sd card?
[20:11] <ubuntu-mate> gonna install it on a usb then use the micro sd slot for extra data such as home dir
[21:36] <brian_> alkisg, boot a sd card just as if it was a USB flash drive, works on some computers that dont have "SD" option directly
[22:57] <mh_> Hi guys


[09:48] <simion314> hi, i have problems in kubuntu 10.10 ,i don't had the problems in 10.04 with same kde version 4.5.2 so it could be a driver problem, i use the free ati driver
[09:48] <simion314> any idea? is the latest drivers compiled in xorg-edge ppa or i should backport?
[13:26] <Sarvatt_> anyone around that would be willing to review and/or sponsor xserver-xorg-video-intel from this bug into maverick-proposed by any chance? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/654876 slangasek gave it an ack to upload to proposed during the freeze because it doesn't affect linaro
[13:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 654876 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Sandybridge] Attempting to use Xv textured video hangs the system. (affects: 1) (heat: 126)" [High,In progress]
[17:00] <bryceh> Sarvatt_, got the .dsc file uploaded somewhere?
[17:17] <Sarvatt_> bryceh: making one now
[17:18] <Sarvatt_> bryceh: http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/intel-maverick/
[17:21] <bryceh> thanks, looks good
[17:21] <bryceh> Sarvatt_, upload sponsored
[17:21] <Sarvatt_> \o/ thanks bryceh!
[17:22] <Sarvatt_> maybe showing pitti that it works in person might get it into updates faster, he's my roomie :)
[17:24] <bryceh> heh :-)
[17:28] <Sarvatt_> x11-apps is going to be a major pain in natty, every single one of the 21 apps bundled in it having linking problems so far
[17:29] <jcristau> assign all the bugs to doko until he reverts the gcc change :)
[17:29]  * Sarvatt_ likes that idea
[17:37] <Sarvatt_> libdrm xorg-server and xserver-xorg-video-intel are merged in git, can just do a crapload of driver sync requests after the new server goes in (they build-dep on xserver <IP_ADDRESS>1). input drivers still need a ton of patch refresh with all this gesture stuff
[18:52] <Sarvatt__> ricotz: so 2.6.37 rc1 has problems? I'm scared to reboot into it on this machine cus i upgraded to natty at the plumbers conference :)
[21:16] <bryceh> hmm, the xorg git tree doesn't seem to match what's in maverick
[21:23] <bryceh> RAOF, guessing you forgot to commit your last changes for xorg?  I've gone ahead and pushed them


[06:36] <nigelb> ian-weisser: Password:
[06:36] <nigelb> :P
[10:09] <silverlion> good morning community! And a happy new year to all of you ;)


[03:53] <thumper> beer o'clock approaching
[03:54] <mwhudson> no kidding
[04:02] <thumper> mwhudson: and it passes
[04:02]  * thumper looks for a beer


[22:25] <pgoode> hello.  getting an oops message when trying to login to lauchpad.  can someone help?
[22:28] <pgoode> hello.  getting an oops message when trying to login to lauchpad.  can someone please help?


[01:34] <matte88_> hello everybody!
[01:35] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:41] <matte88_> guys I'd like to contribute to xubuntu development but I don't know where to start. I'm a young computer engineer (I'm 25, got my MS last year) and it would be great to write some code for xubuntu. Can you please address me? I've already an account on launchpad, created a gpg key, etc (followed the tutorial)
[01:43] <knome> hello
[01:44] <knome> on the coding front, xubuntu doesn't have *too many* applications built/maintined "in-house"
[01:44] <knome> but we do rely much on xfce, and work with them too
[01:45] <knome> so maybe that would be a good place to start... in addition to the obvious "work on something that scratches your own itch"
[01:45] <knome> that said, is there a specific area where/app which you would like to help with?
[01:47] <matte88_> not really right now..I think that it would be great to understand how do you guys work for now
[01:47] <matte88_> then I'll figure it out :)
[01:48] <matte88_> I mean it would be great to work on some core functions, but I'm aware that's early right now
[01:53] <Noskcaj> matte88_, Maybe take a look at the xfce bugzilla
[01:53] <knome> well, most of our "core" functions come from xfce, so that's the place to contribute for those
[01:54] <knome> anyway, to get to know people, hang out in this channel, take part in meetings (next one is on sunday, 18UTC)
[01:54] <Noskcaj> and of the apps that aren't xfce, most are written in python and maintained by bluesaber (our head of developement)
[01:54] <knome> and/or ochosi, and others
[01:56] <matte88_> great! what will be the topic of the meeting?
[01:56] <knome> matte88_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes might be useful to get some idea what's going on as well, and for development things, i can specifically encourage reading the "Release cycle" subsection; for an idea of the scope, you should look at the "Packages related to Xubuntu" subsection
[01:57] <knome> meetings cover anything and everything that relates to xubuntu
[01:57] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings always has the agenda for the next meeting (which is empty right now though)
[01:58] <knome> but those who can, take part on the meeting and update on what they have been working on (and if they have cleared any of the open action items assigned to them)
[01:58] <knome> outside that, it's mostly freeform
[01:58] <knome> (even that is pretty freeform, but that we do every time)
[01:59] <matte88_> sounds good. I'll try to meet you on sunday them
[01:59] <matte88_> *then
[01:59] <knome> the meetings page also has the minutes from the last meeting, so you can get an idea how it goes
[01:59] <knome> welcome! :)
[02:00] <knome> and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on this channel or the mailing list, people are friendly and willing to help
[02:00] <Unit193> Except me, I'm the local jerk.
[02:00] <matte88_> that's awesome!
[02:00] <knome> mm... beef jerky
[02:00]  * knome bites Unit193
[02:01] <matte88_> Unit193 you helped me a lot on the other channel!!
[02:02] <matte88_> gotta go now..see you soon guys, and thank you very much one more time
[02:02] <knome> matte88_, you'll learn how people have different sense of humor too. Unit193 has those weird, submissibe jokes.
[02:02] <knome> submissive too.. :P
[02:02] <Unit193> Self deprecating.
[02:03] <knome> now there's only Unit192 left.
[02:03] <knome> he became scared of our dry jokes :(
[02:04] <knome> "got... to... get.. OUT!"
[02:05]  * skellat is reminded you need a particular sense of humor for developing Xubuntu
[02:05] <knome> that helps.
[02:05] <knome> i would say it's obligatory to have ANY sense of humor.
[02:07] <skellat> Well, I got lost in trying to figure out how to respond to somebody who really wanted to contribute to *buntu overall but apparently had no luck signing the Code of Conduct let alone using GnuPG
[02:07] <skellat> I just couldn't find a way to not sound cold in replying to that person's situation
[02:07] <knome> maybe they could have helped in a non-technical way
[02:08] <knome> granted, some people have a strong will, but not the skills
[02:08] <knome> and that's okay as well :)
[02:08] <skellat> Yep
[02:09] <skellat> Are we actually talking about anything really big in Sunday's meeting?
[02:09] <skellat> The agenda is otherwise blank
[02:09] <knome> i doubt so
[02:09] <knome> but who knows?
[02:10] <skellat> I can't promise I won't have the lights go out on me this time
[02:10] <skellat> Though I will say I've got *very* good UPS units that kept me online when we did have the power outage
[02:11] <knome> well you know, it's just a meeting... :)
[02:11] <knome> with weirdos from the internet, that is
[02:12] <skellat> Yep
[02:15] <Unit193> knome: That's quite the truth right there, think the same way. :P
[02:15] <knome> it isn't quite the truth, it is the truth :P
[10:12] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/z61xQGIifwtHm0o0AxJD/ just seen in -devel.
[10:13] <slickymasterWork> my vivid box is upstart free
[10:15] <ochosi> those of you who run vivid already, are there any grave issues?
[10:16] <ochosi> i'd like to do a real install this weekend, ideally before the weekend
[10:16] <ochosi> err, before the meeting
[10:16]  * ochosi needs coffee
[10:17] <slickymasterWork> other than bug 1399131, nothing special so far ochosi
[10:18] <Unit193> ochosi: Wonderful!  OK, so do we care about -hamster-plugin at all?
[10:18] <Unit193> I have no real hardware installs, waiting until after A1.
[10:21] <ochosi> ok, thanks slickymasterWork
[10:21] <ochosi> Unit193: i always forget what that plugin was all about...
[10:21] <slickymasterWork> np ochosi
[10:21] <ochosi> do you have it packaged already? then i'll just install and test it quickly
[10:22] <Unit193> ochosi: Elaborate time tracker, so it'd seem.  Feel free to bump the question to bluesabre.
[10:25] <ochosi> oh right
[10:25] <ochosi> so you don't have a package for it yet then?
[10:25] <ochosi> generally a time-tracker sounds useful
[10:25] <Unit193> Of course, it's in extras, that's why I ask.
[10:26] <Unit193> "Newest version on remote site is 1.6, local version is 1.2" is more specifically why I want to know, but nevertheless.
[10:27] <ochosi> ok, i'll test it now
[10:27] <ochosi> and sorry for not just looking instead of asking :)
[10:27] <Unit193> Meh, it works.
[10:28] <Unit193> You had me now, easier to ask.  Been there.
[10:30] <ochosi> woot, that pulls in "hamster-indicator"?
[10:31] <ochosi> hm, looks sorta useful to me
[10:31] <ochosi> so it's under active development right now?
[10:31] <Unit193> Should be hamster-applet, actually.  And yeah.
[10:32] <ochosi> well hamster-applet too
[10:32] <Unit193> -applet recommends -indicator, it's dumb like that.
[10:34] <ochosi> yeah
[10:34] <ochosi> silly
[10:34] <Unit193> It's part of the merge from Debian, how silly.
[10:35] <Unit193> * Recommends hamster-indicator (LP: #1049078) - Jamie Strandboge
[13:03] <brainwash> ochosi: https://github.com/gottcode/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/issues is back
[13:15] <ochosi> brainwash: i know
[14:41] <elfy> ochosi: I've not seen any thing that would count as a grave issues in vivid, not seen anything more than piddling ones - but I don't suspend, use more than one monitor, run it on laptop
[14:57] <ochosi> ok, thanks elf
[14:57] <ochosi> elfy:
[14:58] <elfy> welcome :)
[14:59] <elfy> I hope that when you do that you'll report the image stuff on the tracker ;)
[21:08] <Unit193> Well, new -hamster-plugin up anyway, can evaluate later I guess.
[22:12] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce/+packages <--- hamster, that is.