[00:00] <running_rabbit07> sp4z: they have it configured, I have it in a VirtualBox
[00:00] <pvl1> scribawf, if u ahve a live cd u can just reinstall grub, there are lot of guides on line
[00:00] <Copywriter> a big partof it also is i don't know how to apply the fix for the release problem i'm hving
[00:00] <Evito> VCoolio; not under the apps menu
[00:00] <VCoolio> Evito: let me check
[00:00] <Evito> typing nautilus in terminal just opens my homedir :)
[00:00] <Evito> VCoolio: thanks
[00:01] <running_rabbit07> sp4z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8289404&postcount=12
[00:01] <Virus_TB> wrar
[00:01] <VCoolio> Evito: not the menu, open gconf-editor and in there navigate to apps > nautilus > preferences and check the draw_desktop value
[00:02] <Evito> VCoolio, my computer name is desktop, could that have something to do with it (problems began after updating to karmic)
[00:02] <scribawf> pvl1;  thank you that's where i'm looking now again tnx
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> Evito, verify nautilus is controlling the desktop http://paste.ubuntu.com/315482/
[00:02] <Evito> VCoolio; thanks, just opening the config editor fixed it
[00:03] <Copywriter> heck i'm going to install thelts version
[00:03] <Copywriter> just for the heck of it
[00:03] <VCoolio> Evito: than maybe gnome-settings-daemon wasn't running; check that next time
[00:03] <Evito> pretty sure it was, well im not going to touch it if its working
[00:04] <joelawrenceeeee> list
[00:04] <VCoolio> Evito: actually if I login in gnome (which I seldom do) I also don't get a wallpaper and stuff; thought it had to do with using other wm's and disabling gnome-settings-daemon; but maybe there is more to it
[00:04] <samuli> you know what's missing from the ubuntu-wiki.. good instructions how to reinstall the new grub after w7 has messed around with the MBR.
[00:05] <Evito> Vcoolio; i had it running, i wasnt missing wallpaper etc it just didnt associate my desktop with the desktop folder even though it was correctly set
[00:05] <ZykoticK9> VCoolio, i thing your right about it being a daemon problem if opening it fixed it.  FYI i do think it's "show_desktop" and not "draw_desktop" that you suggested (use this for multiple wallpaper)
[00:05] <JayX> how do i register a name? on this ICR
[00:05] <dumnut_> i have a windows computer and i don't want to spend extra money for firewall, can exploit see my keys thru my unprotected computer?
[00:06] <Evito> VCoolio; thank you for your tips regardless if it buggers up i know how to fix it myself now
[00:06] <danielryan> Would someone mind helping with a few problems I have in ubuntu? Im using jaunty and am relatively new to the ubuntu OS.
[00:06] <VCoolio> ZykoticK9: yes, right, I was about to point to show_desktop, but it was solved already
[00:06] <samuli> dumnut, do you mean in ubuntu or in windows?
[00:07] <dumnut_> hi samuli, windows xp
[00:08] <firdau5-away> !windows xp | dumnut
[00:08] <jt76> hey, anyone got divx working on there ubuntu 9.10?
[00:08] <bastid_raZor> dumnut_: ask in ##windows
[00:08] <Scunizi> danielryan: ya gotta ask a question.. pick one problem at a time
[00:08] <samuli> dumnut, not an expert, but I've had no problems with (up-to-date) xp firewall as long as you have something to detect and block the trojans
[00:08] <randomusr> !vista
[00:09] <randomusr> !Windows7
[00:09] <randomusr> hehehe
[00:09] <OerHeks> samuli i suggest order a free ubuntu 9.10 cd / dvd
[00:09] <firdau5-away> jt76, needs to update your codec
[00:09] <mamia> i have found my bluetooth device using "hcitool scan" and also tried to connect to it using "hcitool cc bdaddr" but no luck... am i suppose to mount the device some how before connecting?>
[00:09] <OerHeks> with dial up it takes days to download
[00:09] <danielryan> Can anyone help me with usb devices in Virtualbox?
[00:09] <randomusr> !nerds
[00:10] <chewy> I have a mail server and it can receive incoming mail thru pop3/imap but outgoing mail with smtp wont work
[00:10] <randomusr> ok done now
[00:10] <dumnut_> hi bastid_raZor good point, samuli: good point too
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> have the issues with slow/crashing VMs with VirtualBox 3.0.10 been resolved on 64bit karmic yet?  i keep having to uncheck it from available updates in Update Manager (so I can keep my working 3.0.8).
[00:10] <firdau5-away> samuli, you can get an old version of ubuntu from me
[00:10] <firdau5-away> I mean 9.04
[00:10] <jt76> firedau5-away: well i wasnt using it in 9.04 so i downloaded the TAR from DIVX labs and it installed fine (aka no error msg)
[00:10] <samuli> I don't need a version of ubuntu, thank you guys :)
[00:10] <firdau5-away> but you need to pay me 1st. for postal charge
[00:11] <coastal_> how do i run openssh-sever
[00:11] <firdau5-away> samuli, you'll
[00:11] <Evito> anyway to allow an installer under wine to write into my linux desktop folder (it does see the dir but its not allowed)
[00:11] <phantomcircuit> I'm trying to add an rsa signing subkey to a DSA ElGamal key that already exists
[00:11] <samuli> I already have ordered and shipped two ubuntus and two kubuntus to my local library and I'm using 9.10 myself
[00:11] <mpdhelp> Is anyone familiar with getting MPD to work properly?
[00:11] <phantomcircuit> but seahorse is freezing after i enter the passphrase for the key
[00:11] <Grim76__> coastal_: You have to install it first. sudo apt-get install openssh-server.  Once that is done the service should start automatically.
[00:11] <mpdhelp> Currently it stops playback after logout.
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> coastal_, once it's installed and you've rebooted, you should be able to "ssh localhost" and get a login prompt.
[00:12] <Anacranom> someone here once gave me a simple command to flush the /tmp dir,, and i can't for the life of me remember it, any help?
[00:12] <kindofabuzz> sudo rm -Rf /temp/*
[00:12] <danielryan> can anyone help me out in virtualbox?
[00:12] <dumnut_> what is the command to eject cd?
[00:12] <Grim76__> ZykoticK9: Last time I checked a reboot was not necessary to get the service to start.  Unless there were other issues.
[00:12] <danielryan> I have 9.04 as host and xp as guest
[00:12] <kindofabuzz> Anacranom, sudo rm -Rf /temp/*
[00:13] <phantomcircuit> kindofabuzz, uh sudo rm -rf /tmp/*
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> Grim76__, it's probably NOT required ;)
[00:13] <Anacranom> kindofabuzz,  um, /temp is not a dir on linux...
[00:13] <phantomcircuit> kindofabuzz, and more than likely that will cause system instability
[00:13] <kindofabuzz> Anacranom, um sorry
[00:13] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, why do you want to clean out the tmp dir?
[00:13] <kindofabuzz> phantomcircuit, why not?
[00:13] <chewy> omg I just wasted my time in here
[00:13] <chewy> whats the chat to smtp
[00:14] <chewy> mail help
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> chewy, why not try #linux?
[00:14] <phantomcircuit> kindofabuzz, that's the wrong question to ask, first you ask why would you
[00:14] <Pholious> hey guys, did anyone ever have the problem, after installing Emerald Theme Manager, that all programs lost their menubar ?
[00:14] <joshjtl> hey folks, anyone know if there are any images with ubunt pre-gnome3 ?
[00:14] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, its not flushing on exit/logoff/restartx or even reboot
[00:14] <chewy> i did ubuntu because i am using ubuntu for myserver
[00:14] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, and you expect it to do that why?
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> chewy, if it's a general linux question you'd be better off there
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> Pholious, nvidia card?
[00:15] <ramblagir> Is there a way to download all (or a large part) of the packages in the main repository as a disk image?
[00:15] <Pholious> kindofabuzz, yup
[00:15] <samuli> Pholious, after installing it or after running it? Never had that problem + seems kind of weird because emerald isn't in control of the menubars.
[00:15] <Scunizi> !aptoncd | ramblagir
[00:15] <ramblagir> Scunizi: well, outside of Ubuntu
[00:15] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, isn't it supposed to rid itself of the temp files from downloaded content and like copying cds/dvds? a
[00:16] <danielryan> !virtualbox
[00:16] <PhantomLink> back :D
[00:16] <phantomcircuit> samuli, emerald is in control of the menu bar, sort of, emerald installs compiz, compiz replaces metacity bing bang no menubars
[00:16] <Scunizi> ramblagir: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:16] <ramblagir> Scunizi: my Ubuntu computer has no internet access, but I have a Mac that does, so how could I download all the packages from my Mac?
[00:16] <osubuckey> im impressed with karmic koala :D
[00:16] <kindofabuzz> Pholious, google not title bar ubuntu and you will find a fix
[00:16] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[00:16] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[00:16] <ramblagir> Scunizi: thanks, I'll see if there's an option for all the packages as an iso
[00:16] <samuli> phantomcircuit, the wm is draws the menubars?
[00:16] <Scunizi> ramblagir: there isn't.. it would be *huge* ..
[00:17] <samuli> I thought that was gtk-2.0 in gnome
[00:17] <danielryan> Can someone please help me out with a virtualbox problem?
[00:17] <wamellx> does anyone here know why ubuntu is saying that my hard drive has 4850173 bad spots
[00:17] <ramblagir> Scunizi: ok, maybe not all of them, but the most popular, perhaps? ;) or, more specifically, the developer tools packages
[00:17] <Pholious> kindofabuzz, ahh, so compiz is the one bugging me? :D cheers
[00:17] <kindofabuzz> wamellx, because it does?
[00:17] <ramblagir> danielryan: #virtualbox can be of help
[00:17] <wgrant> samuli, phantomcircuit The client draws the menu bars, not the WM.
[00:17] <phantomcircuit> samuli, you're right, im guessing that he made the same mistake that i made
[00:17] <Scunizi> sanubuntu: right mouse click the desktop and choose "arrange icons" or something similar
[00:17] <danielryan> thanks
[00:17] <wgrant> wamellx: The hard disk is actually the one reporting that. Sometimes they lie, sadly :(
[00:17] <phantomcircuit> samuli, im guessing he means that the window decorations are missing
[00:17] <wamellx> kindofabuzz: but it doesnt
[00:18] <wamellx> wgrant: ah
[00:18] <samuli> ahh. right
[00:18] <Scunizi> ramblagir: there's no iso.. you'll have to download one at a time
[00:18] <sanubuntu> Scunizi: ok
[00:18] <wamellx> im mainly just wondering my windows doesnt say anything
[00:18] <ramblagir> that's unfortunate. thanks, though, Scunizi :)
[00:18] <wgrant> wamellx: You'll find a checkbox to tell Ubuntu to stop warning you about the imminent failure.
[00:18] <kindofabuzz> wamellx, so your intuition is right and the hard drive is wrong?
[00:18] <wgrant> wamellx: Windows doesn't do monitoring like that by default.
[00:18] <wamellx> ah
[00:18] <wgrant> kindofabuzz: Yes. SMART lies.
[00:18] <kindofabuzz> wamellx, because windows sucks
[00:19] <phantomcircuit> wgrant, SMART lies? really now?
[00:19] <samuli> Pholious, for a quick fix you can try "metacity --replace &" to see if it is the compiz/emerald that is the problem
[00:19] <phantomcircuit> wgrant, under what scenerio is SMART going to lie?
[00:19] <wgrant> phantomcircuit: Some hard disk implementations of it lie about various attributes, yes
[00:19] <phantomcircuit> wgrant, why would they do that?
[00:20] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, check /etc/default/rcS
[00:20] <aaron1> can somebody help me?
[00:20] <phantomcircuit> TMPTIME should be 0
[00:20] <wgrant> phantomcircuit: Bug #438136
[00:20] <Pholious> samuli, terminal printed "[1] 3783" and made compiz crash, didn't pop menu back yet though :D
[00:20] <sanubuntu> scunizi, i don't get that option on right click .. i get 'create folder, create launcher, create document, etc'
[00:21] <phantomcircuit> anything >= 0 is acceptable
[00:21] <mpdhelp> Is anyone familiar with MPD on Ubuntu?
[00:21] <aaron1> windows no longer works on my system, and i would like to make ubuntu my only OS. however, i still have files on my harddrive (accessible through ubuntu) on windows that i want to transfer
[00:21] <WolVenom> is it possible to use iPhone with ubuntu?
[00:22] <aaron1> is there a way to install ubuntu and transfer windows files from my hard drive?
[00:22] <sanubuntu> aaron, you will have to save your files to another medium before you install or you will lose all
[00:23] <aaron1> sanubuntu, do you mean something like an external harddrive?
[00:23] <samuli> Pholious, oopsie :)
[00:23] <phantomcircuit> aaron1, if the windows partition uses less than half the drive you can do a side by side install, copy the files from windows to linux partitions, then delete and windows partition and extend the linux partition
[00:23] <samuli> Pholious, you're beyond my help then
[00:23] <sanubuntu> aaron1, either an ext hdd or a usb stick/flash drive, or a cd or dvd, whatever you have
[00:23] <Pholious> samuli, haha ty for tip though, got some tips on the ubuntu forums, gonna try them out ;)
[00:23] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, try metacity --replace without the &
[00:23] <aaron1> phantomcircuit, the windows partition takes up too much space to install an ubuntu partition. i'm running on the trial right now using the disc
[00:23] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, its- TMPTIME=0	SULOGIN=no	DELAYLOGIN=no	UTC=no	VERBOSE=no	FSCKFIX=no
[00:24] <arbir> i have a p3 with 496mb ram. will 9.10 work on this ?
[00:24] <Bilz> hello
[00:24] <samuli> Pholious, compiz "crashing" is supposed to happen though.. but you should have metacity title bars though.
[00:24] <BluesKaj> aaron1, yes , create an ext3 or 4 partition for ubuntu if you haven't already , then once ubuntu is installed , the file manager should see your windows partition
[00:24] <wgrant> arbir: I run Ubuntu 9.10 on a few P3-era machines with 384MiB of RAM, so you should be OK.
[00:24] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, no luck :D
[00:24] <phantomcircuit> aaron1, in that case your only choice is to backup to an external hard drive before install
[00:24] <Bilz> im trying to run gtk-gnutella on 9.04, i svned the latest version and installed. anyway, its not connecting. says i appear to be behind a firewall. any ideas where to look to fix this? didnt realise i had a firewall on the go?
[00:24] <arbir> neither live cd, nor install works. it just hangs with the logo
[00:25] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, did metacity crash? close silently? is it still running?
[00:25] <arbir> wgrant: so what to do about the freezing.
[00:25] <shawn1980> how can i fix a ownership error   when i type sudo it says its on gid 1001 and it should be on 0 how do i change the gid ????
[00:25] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, it says "compiz.real assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/compiz.real: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x09af88d0 ***"
[00:25] <Pholious> samuli, hmm, it's weird, some programs do have menu bars and some don't... like firefox and eclipse do have one
[00:25] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, pastebin the line with the command and all the program output
[00:26] <Pholious> then xchat and terminal don't
[00:26] <aaron1> okay, thank you sanubuntu, phantomcircuit and blueskaj for your help. i will go buy an external hard drive
[00:26] <shawn1980> how can i fix a ownership error   when i type sudo it says its on gid 1001 and it should be on 0 how do i change the gid ????
[00:26] <shawn1980> i tryed to chown it but it does not work
[00:26] <shawn1980> lol
[00:26] <samuli> Pholious, by menu bars do you mean title bars?
[00:27] <sanubuntu> aaron1 depending on the files you have you might be able to upload them to some free host .. documents to google docs for instance
[00:27] <phantomcircuit> samuli, he means window decorations
[00:27] <hulkusz> haliho
[00:27] <aaron1> i have over 20 gigs in recorded music and 30 gigs of music
[00:27] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, uh do you know the root password?
[00:27] <Pholious> samuli, yeah the main menu, with File and Options etc
[00:27] <shawn1980> yes
[00:27] <aaron1> unfortunate but that's the case
[00:27] <shawn1980> i'm owner
[00:27] <samuli> Pholious, wow, that's a weird bug
[00:27] <phantomcircuit> samuli, nvm assumptions make an ass out of me
[00:27] <phantomcircuit> :P
[00:28] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, screen shot?
[00:28] <sanubuntu> aaron1, :P
[00:28] <hulkusz> bb
[00:28] <shawn1980> phanto how do i fix it
[00:28] <samuli> phantomcircuit, hehe :) I thought he was talking about title bars too
[00:28] <TheCheeze> can anyone tell me how to make a background bundle like some of the ones that comes with Karmic?
[00:28] <Pholious> screeny otw
[00:28] <corey> how can i use wireless for ubuntu?
[00:29] <AeroMax2> anyone know how i can get the Apple key to function on my iBook instead of the ctrl key?
[00:29] <Pholious> terminal bug: http://nopaste.info/3d13ce9583.html
[00:29] <corey> how can i use wireless ubuntu?
[00:29] <corey> how can i use wire less for ubuntu???????
[00:29] <shawn1980> so do you know how to fix that ??
[00:29] <TheCheeze> corey- can you be a little more specific?
[00:29] <konam> how do I know if my dvd recorder is + or - under ubuntu?
[00:30] <Anacranom> corey, give more detail, in one line please, not continual <enter>
[00:30] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, yeah i do one sec im looking at my system
[00:30] <shawn1980> ok
[00:30] <shawn1980> thanks
[00:30] <corey> how can  i use a wireless adapter to get internet in ubuntu
[00:30] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, samuli: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8997/screenshoteg.png
[00:30] <Pholious> it's a bit bugged with the compiz reset lol
[00:30] <Pholious> the black bar
[00:30] <TheCheeze> corey- do you have one installed right now? If so go to system - administration - hardware profiles and enable it
[00:31] <TheCheeze> err, hadware drivers
[00:31] <corey> idk how to sdo all that or install it
[00:31] <Pholious> hmm, it's not using the theme either
[00:31] <TheCheeze> by installed i mean is it physically inside of your computer
[00:31] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, what's the output of `ls -l /usr/bin|grep sudo$`
[00:31] <corey> i just pluged it in and hoped it works lol
[00:31] <sanubuntu> this problem driving me batty, i trying to get this laptop ready to leave as a gift in costa rica b4 i leave on saturday .. arrrrgggghhhh
[00:32] <TheCheeze> corey- tehn you will need to follow the directions i listed above
[00:32] <shawn1980> let me try it brb
[00:32] <Anacranom> corey, what does ifconfig tell you, what does iwconfig tell you? what about iwlist scan? have you done all updates? have you enabled the Restricted drivers?
[00:32] <wgrant> TheCheeze: Only for very, very few wireless cards will that be necessary.
[00:32] <freaky[t]> what is gnomenu?
[00:32] <wgrant> corey: What if you click the network icon on the top panel?
[00:32] <janisozaur> how do i configure my system to use gcc 4.3 instead of 4.4? is there any
[00:32] <jk1> NetworkManager Applet might be of help
[00:32] <corey> idk what yall talking ab out
[00:32] <TheCheeze> wgrant, i am assuming his is not working right off the bat if he is asking how to get it working
[00:32] <corey> im a woindows user usualy
[00:32] <janisozaur> how do i configure my system to use gcc 4.3 instead of 4.4? is there any shorthand like update-alternatives?
[00:32] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, first of all in xchat try /set gui_hide_menu OFF
[00:33] <preet> I have a (hopefully) simple question regarding sudo syntax: I want to run an application that I'm developing with root permission. The application path is /home/user/myapp/myapp.runme... I can't just 'sudo pathname'. How can I run the app?
[00:33] <phantomcircuit> oops wrong one
[00:33] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, ???
[00:33] <wgrant> corey: On the bar at the top right of the screen, next to the volume icon, you should see an icon that looks like an antenna. Click on that.
[00:33] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, ok, np
[00:33] <corey> no i see what looks like 2 computers
[00:33] <jk1> download and compile the correct gcc version
[00:33] <phantomcircuit> er
[00:33] <phantomcircuit> brb
[00:34] <Anacranom> corey, what release of ubuntu you installed?
[00:34] <wgrant> corey: OK, it depends on your Ubuntu version. Click on that anyway.
[00:34] <corey> x-ubuntu
[00:34] <corey> x
[00:34] <corey> ok i did now what
[00:34] <wgrant> corey: Does it show you a list of wireless networks?
[00:34] <phantomcircuit> yeah as i suspected
[00:34] <corey> no it does not
[00:34] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, /set gui_menu_hide off then restart xchat
[00:35] <wgrant> corey: Xubuntu isn't a version of Ubuntu. The version is something like 8.04 or 9.10.
[00:35] <Anacranom> corey, just so we know, what release of xubuntu? 8.04? 8.10?
[00:35] <corey> 9.10
[00:35] <corey> idk man
[00:35] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, um not it again ;-)
[00:35] <corey> the latest one
[00:35] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, restart xchat
[00:35] <samuli> preet, the way I run stuff is sudo sh ./foo/aplication.run, not sure if that's what you're after.
[00:35] <phantomcircuit> it doesnt update the gui until you restart for some reason that's why i restarted
[00:36] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, why??? i have no issue with exchat or anything other than the /tmp dir?
[00:36] <shawn1980> its rwsr-xr-x 2 root root<PHONE_NUMBER> 06-22 1214 sudo phantomcircuit
[00:36] <phantomcircuit> oh
[00:36] <phantomcircuit> shit
[00:36] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, lol im trying to help tooo many peopel
[00:36] <phantomcircuit> wrong person
[00:36] <FloodBot3> phantomcircuit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:36] <shawn1980> that was the output
[00:36] <corey> nvm im going back to windows
[00:36] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, ok, np
[00:37] <TheCheeze> does anyone happen to know how to make a wallpaper "theme" in Karmic? I don't know how to work it better or i would google. I mean like how there are some wallpaper options with multiple pictures that it cycles thorugh...
[00:37] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, i know the feeling ;-)
[00:37] <ernz> Hi, I just did a fresh install of Karmic on my laptop. I haven't been prompted to install the proprietary NVidia drivers and they don't appear in jockey-gtk. Does anyone know how to see/enable them please?
[00:38] <eae> I am trying to install ubuntu remix my laptop . . . the install seems to be frozen, any suggestions?  I am installing from an ISO I burned to DVD
[00:38] <Anacranom> good riddens! ppl like him need to stick with being stuck
[00:38] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, what version are you using? 8.x? 9.x?
[00:38] <freaky[t]> how do I install a X11 cursor theme?
[00:38] <Dravekx> I have a question...
[00:38] <samuli> eae, what does "apt-cache search nvidia-glx" come up with?
[00:38] <Anacranom> !ask Dravekx
[00:38] <shawn1980> i upgraded to 9.x and my x-server has not worked since
[00:39] <preet> samuli: ty for the response -- I'm trying to run an app I've compiled already (C++), using sh tries to run it like a bash script?
[00:39] <Anacranom> !ask | Dravekx
[00:39] <eae> apt-cache?
[00:39] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, you upgraded to 9.10 or 9.04?
[00:39] <Dravekx> I have 2 drives on my ubuntu server, one of them is NTFS... my main dirve is ubuntu server, how can i access the other hard drive?
[00:39] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, samuli, I'm back, ubuntu didn't like whatever I tried, had to reboot
[00:39] <shawn1980> 9.10
[00:39] <eae> I cannot issue any commands
[00:39] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, well first off your sudo binary is too small
[00:39] <phantomcircuit> -rwsr-xr-x  1 root   root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-22 09:15 sudo
[00:39] <shawn1980> ok
[00:40] <shawn1980> how do i fix that
[00:40] <samuli> eae, umm.. well try /system/settings/hardware drivers
[00:40] <phantomcircuit> well more than likely your upgrade didnt go quite as planned
[00:40] <shawn1980> yes
[00:40] <eae> I inserted the disk, set DVD to first boot device, a pleasant looking install started, then the clock froze
[00:41] <ernz> samuli: Is this help for me? I am having nvidia problems.
[00:41] <shawn1980> so is there any thing i can do
[00:41] <Dravekx> I backed up all my files to my 2nd hard disk with windows server and then formatted the 1st drive and put ubuntu server on it... is there anyway to access the 2nd disk?
[00:41] <samuli> oh, sorry, eae, I was talking to ernz
[00:41] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, try sudo and paste the entire output including the command line
[00:41] <Anacranom> shawn1980, try to use the nick of the person you are talking to, the one thats helping you, in your posts, it will help them see your replies much easier
[00:41] <shawn1980> ok
[00:41] <mgv1> hi, can you help at? when i try to aprove flash camera everything freezes, wht can i do?
[00:42] <shawn1980> ok anacranom
[00:42] <shawn1980> brb
[00:42] <eae> is there a channel for installation issues?
[00:42] <ernz> samuli: Hardware drivers window (jockey-gtk) says no prop drivers are in use. Window is blank. apt-cache search nvidia-glx returns about 15 lines of packages.
[00:42] <Jack21> hmm i cant seem to join a different channel when i type /join ##php it wont let me :(
[00:42] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4356/screenshot1op.png
[00:43] <samuli> ernz, there's your drivers if you have a supported nvidia card
[00:43] <Evito> how do i go about making a keycombo that allows me to click a fullscreen program to kill it?
[00:43] <ernz> samuli: I was using nvidia-glx-185 in jaunty. This is in the list. How do I install and enable it? It was just a case of clicking "Enable" in Jaunty.
[00:43] <jrib> Evito: use xbindkeys to call up « xkill »
[00:43] <xenocampanoli> Where do I go to ask about using netcat?
[00:44] <Evito> jrib; im quite the nub still with linux, could you hold my hand? :)
[00:44] <xenocampanoli> I want to use netcat to scan network traffic on root for my own machine.  I want to do this to get the data my program is sending over a channel to debug the data.
[00:44] <mrXX> jrib dude i ran into a serious problem in ubuntu
[00:44] <eae> how long should a normal ubuntu remix installation take?
[00:44] <Xubuntus> Hello people! I the guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting there is a part named "Loading a working sound configuration". I'm now on LiveCD'n (9.10), and it's not possible to find the file being spoken of in the guide; asound.state
[00:44] <Xubuntus> Where is it?
[00:45] <jrib> Evito: unfortunately, I'm about to go study.  Just look for some xkbindkeys examples (actually the man page and its homepage should be enough) and bind some key combo to run xkill
[00:45] <samuli> ernz, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185" if you have problems with it and can't get to graphical interface do "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-185" and try again. If even that doesn't work do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[00:45] <Xubuntus> How do you do it?
[00:45] <mgv1> there is anyway to join voice chats? i couldnt find a working site - flash gets freeze with audio
[00:45] <jrib> mrXX: ?
[00:45] <Evito> how do i staart xkeybinds etc thats my prob
[00:45] <mrXX> jrib i modified content of alsa-base.conf and now ubuntu doesnt restart , i get the GRUB shell and i have no idea what to do
[00:45] <Xubuntus> I want to copy it and use it in a Xubuntu-installation.
[00:45] <samuli> ernz, just giving you instructions in case things go awry
[00:45] <nerdy_kid> anyone know the command to spin down a cdrom drive?
[00:45] <mrXX> jrib i miss ubuntu, i dont wanna lose all my things there
[00:45] <xenocampanoli> Where do I go to ask about using netcat?
[00:45] <jatt> compiling a vanilla linux kernel in karmic is giving me:
[00:45] <jatt> kernel/kallsyms.c:529: internal compiler error: in pop_scope, at c-decl.c:859
[00:45] <jatt> are there any known issues with gcc in karmic?
[00:45] <jrib> mrXX: I doubt that's related to you editing alsa-base.conf, but you can always boot a live cd and revert the file
[00:46] <ernz> samuli: Ahhh, that takes me back to the days of Edgy. :) I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the help. I'll let you know how I get on.
[00:46] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, do locate asound.state
[00:46] <samuli> ernz, cool :)
[00:46] <shawn1980> hey phantomciruit it says /etc/sudoers is owned   by gid 1001 should be 0 segmentation fault
[00:46] <mrXX> jrib damn, why didnt i get the idea!! thanks so much dude, i will try that
[00:46] <mirror_man> Ubuntu 9.10 does not configure my screen res properly, it only gives 800x600 max and I want 1024x768. My monitor will support higher than this so that's ok. Graphics is intel 82865G. I made an xorg.conf and put the right line in section screen -> subsection display but the screen res is still 800x600 after rebooting. Question: how do I get ubuntu to recognise xorg.conf?
[00:46] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, well you'll have to restart in single user mode and change the file permissions
[00:47] <VCoolio> Evito: xbindkeys not xkeybinds
[00:47] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Doesn't find it.
[00:47] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, it's the only way
[00:47] <shawn1980> ok
[00:47] <Evito> just installed it, how do i start it?
[00:47] <Evito> does it have a GUI
[00:47] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, locate asound.state gives me this- $ locate asound.state   /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[00:47] <shawn1980> ok you got the command i'm kind of knew phantom
[00:47] <ernz> samuli: Drivers installed. How do I restart X?
[00:48] <woodyjlw> has there been any updates for the fglrx drivers on the older ati cards? like the ati 200m built into the hp laptop.  I crashed my wireless and may need to reinstall and thinking about going back to 9.04 from 8.10
[00:48] <VCoolio> Evito: you need another package for a gui, but it's not that useful, you can just edit ~/.xbindkeysrc
[00:48] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, is he in the /etc/sudoers file?
[00:48] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, think I should try Beryl manager? or impossible under regular ubuntu?
[00:48] <ItaloDaniel> alguien habla español???
[00:48] <rsc___> did someone say "beryl manager"?
[00:48] <VCoolio> Evito: run xbindkeys -d  to get a default ~/.xbindkeysrc with explanation in it
[00:49] <murilod> alguem  do brasil ?
[00:49] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Yeah, but (booting from the LiveCD) that directory is empty for me.
[00:49] <phantomcircuit> Anacranom, it doesnt matter the permissions for the sudoers file are wrong so sudo doesnt trust the file
[00:49] <phantomcircuit> so unless he changed the root password to something he knows his only option is single user
[00:49] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Any idea how to "make" the file?
[00:49] <Anacranom> phantomcircuit, ahhh
[00:49] <robert__> is the array kernel beneficial?
[00:49] <xenocampanoli> Is there a channel devoted to things like use of netcat?  I there appears to not be one named netcat.
[00:49] <preet> srry to repeat... I'm trying to run a (C++) app I've compiled with root priveledges. I can't figure out the right syntax to use. 'sudo pathname' or 'sudo sh pathname' doesnt work. Does anyone have any ideas?
[00:50] <murilod> estou com uma dúvida sobre som no ubuntu 9.10
[00:50] <Xubuntus> Can I somehow copy the soundconfiguration that the LiveCD is using right now to my Xubuntu-installation?
[00:50] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, so u dont have xubuntu installed?
[00:50] <Evito> VCoolio; i see -dg listed as option too, what does the defaults guile do?
[00:50] <murilod> alguem me ajuda ?
[00:50] <Mercury> Argh, I give up.  How the frell do I get beeps from a terminal to trigger an actual beep from the PC speaker instead of some wav file played through the sound card?
[00:50] <icedwater> preet, is it set to executable?
[00:50] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, ahh, yes, look in /media/
[00:50] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, chown root:root /etc/sudoers && chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[00:50] <phantomcircuit> that should be enough
[00:50] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Yes. Xubuntu installed. It has that file. UbuntuLiveCD is where I am now. It does (appearently) not.
[00:50] <ernz> samuli: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg seems to be defunct. Doesn't work. Any other ideas to get NVidia drivers working?
[00:50] <shawn1980> ok
[00:50] <VCoolio> Evito: don't know, never seen / used it; promise: editing the file manually is just as easy
[00:51] <petteyg> Have an Acer 5535 that screen does not come on after resuming from suspend.
[00:51] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, ahh, yes, look in /media/
[00:51] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, you werent having any problems before you installed beryl?
[00:51] <LjL> xenocampanoli: don't quote me on that, but ##bash will possibly help you with issues related to various "low-level" commands
[00:51] <nerdy_kid> anyone know the command to spin down a cdrom drive?
[00:51] <Evito> VCoolio; thanks, shouldnt be this "hard" for me doh
[00:51] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, not too sure yet what Beryl does, but when I create a new user, the title bar is just there
[00:51] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, did you read my question?
[00:51] <VCoolio> Evito: remember that mod4 = windows key, rest is like you expect
[00:51] <Evito> I was born in the command line age and all :)
[00:51] <freaky[t]> is there something like kde-apps.org for gnome?
[00:51] <Mercury> Ubuntu 9.10, it was working fine in 9.04.
[00:52] <preet> icedwater: I don't think it is, I'll try it out. But I've executed the app without sudo and its all good
[00:52] <samuli> ernz, I don't know frankly.. I'm not sure with this new version of xorg if editing the xorg.conf is any use
[00:52] <Evito> VCoolio; thanks for the tip
[00:52] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, i have copied over the live cd's xorg.conf from the live session to the installed partition so i don't see why not
[00:52] <phantomcircuit> petteyg, ati video card?
[00:52] <icedwater> Hm, that means it should be executable. Check the permissions in ls -l.
[00:52] <rsc___> hey folks.
[00:52] <Pholious> has to be one of the programs I installed to change my desktop a bit, I installed emerald theme manager, KDE desktop (don't use this anymore), cairo-dock
[00:52] <Flare-Laptop> Mercury: sudo modprobe pcspkr
[00:52] <rsc___> just curious, what do you all think about how ubuntu theming is moving?
[00:52] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, is this a new install?
[00:52] <petteyg> phantomcircuit: yes
[00:52] <samuli> ernz, this is what the meaningful part of the file I have "Section "Device"
[00:52] <samuli> 	Identifier	"Default Device"
[00:52] <samuli> 	Driver	"nvidia"
[00:52] <samuli> 	Option	"NoLogo"	"True"
[00:52] <samuli> EndSection
[00:52] <samuli> "
[00:52] <FloodBot3> samuli: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <robert__> is the array kernel beneficial?
[00:52] <Sagaci> hey guys, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu off a live cd. I've got windows 7 installed and would like to dual boot between them but the ubiquity seems to hang just before the partition stage.
[00:52] <icedwater> Also, if you compiled it, you shouldn't have to use sh to run it again, it should execute by itself.
[00:53] <samuli> oops
[00:53] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, the file in media IS FROM THE ORIGINAL XUBUNTU! I want to FIND the one in UbuntuLiveCD to copy TO XUBUNTU.
[00:53] <samuli> didn't know that was going to be pasted as separate lines
[00:53] <Flare-Laptop> !paste | samuli
[00:53] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, installed it all last week, didn't have title bar since then
[00:53] <randomusr> Is anyone using an X-Fi soundcard with the commercial driver?
[00:53] <phantomcircuit> petteyg, im guessing your screwed http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+ati--radeon-hd-3200?id=6832
[00:53] <icedwater> Xubuntus: where is your CD mounted, then?
[00:53] <SetiAmon> I am randomusr
[00:53] <SetiAmon> you mean the creative beta drivers?yep.
[00:54] <preet> icedwater: I can run it by itself without sudo. Yes, the file is executable... but the program uses I/O and I need to run it with root
[00:54] <Xubuntus> icedwater, Good question. In media are only my two harddrives.
[00:54] <randomusr> SetiAmon, I thought they had production drivers release?
[00:54] <samuli> Flare-Laptop, thanks, I know. I just thought that was going to come up as one line
[00:54] <SetiAmon> for linux?
[00:54] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, well the first step i would take is to `rm -rf ~/*&&rm -rf ~/.*`
[00:54] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, did you have to install something to get it? if so then install in the live session, then cp the file over... whats the issue?
[00:54] <phantomcircuit> just in case it's some strange configuration that you're unaware of
[00:55] <Flare-Laptop> samuli: Its ok, no biggie
[00:55] <preet> and so I can run it through terminal as a normal user, by going into the directory the app is in and typing "./myapp.run", but I don't know how to do the same thing with sudo
[00:55] <SetiAmon> http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx I am using these randomusr
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> Pholious: that is probably a bad idea to follow phantomcircuit's advice
[00:55] <shawn1980> phantomciruit that comanned did not work can
[00:55] <Xubuntus> The Cd is in cd-rom. Are you telling me that the LiveCD BEFORE actually contains the configuration I want? (The one the BOOTED cd is using.)
[00:55] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, that will compeletly erase your home directory
[00:55] <phantomcircuit> guess i should have given more warning
[00:55] <jajabeen> hey looking for some help with karmic koala
[00:55] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Not that I now of.
[00:56] <bastid_raZor> phantomcircuit: that is never wise to do.
[00:56] <phantomcircuit> bastid_raZor, really now?
[00:56] <VCoolio> preet: first sudo -s  and then ./myapp.run ?
[00:56] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, Well, might be ALSA-update, reinstall then.
[00:56] <phantomcircuit> do explain
[00:56] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, the live cd creates a tmp partition,,, your live session you can install stuff to
[00:56] <Pholious> ugh, too late
[00:56] <shawn1980> can i up redo the upgrade ?
[00:56] <preet> VCoolio: that did it, cheers
[00:56] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, and you ran it from single user as root?
[00:56] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, okay, good! Where is it?
[00:56] <shawn1980> phantomciruit
[00:56] <SetiAmon> randomusr i should say i am running jaunty not karmic because when i upgraded to karmic i had to much problems with sound,even the 'out of the box' is distorted and broken and i can't install the creative drivers so i gave up and went back to jaunty.
[00:56] <icedwater> Xubuntus: I'm sorry, I didn't catch the rest of your situation..
[00:57] <bastid_raZor> phantomcircuit: yes, if you think someone has a configuration issue either create a new user and test or make a backup of suspsect configuration. never just wipe and be done with it.
[00:57] <icedwater> Probably best for Anacranom to help you :P
[00:57] <icedwater> preet: Did sudo -s work?
[00:57] <shawn1980> oh how do i get to a single user
[00:57] <shawn1980> ?
[00:57] <shawn1980> phantomciruit
[00:57] <preet> yes, it did, thank you!
[00:57] <shawn1980> i'm new sorry
[00:57] <phantomcircuit> bastid_raZor, im looking for the fastest way to solve his problem
[00:57] <samuli> Anacranom, is it a ramdrive that is mounted on /tmp?
[00:57] <phantomcircuit> not necessarily identify what is causing it
[00:57] <icedwater> Well, don't thank me, I've never used sudo -s before. I'm reading the man page now.
[00:58]  * icedwater winks at preet.
[00:58] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, just install whatever you installed on the "real" installation to this live session, then locate the file and cp it over
[00:58] <Pholious> well, atm it's all deleted and still no title bar :O
[00:58] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, icedwater. I have booted the UbuntuLiveCD 9.10. I'm in here now. I also have a Xubuntu on a HardDrive. I want to copy the AUDIO-configuration from UbuntuLive-environment to Xubuntu (on harddrive).
[00:58] <preet> icedwater: I'm used to using just 'su' on Fedora... itd be nice if all distros used a similar method to give a normal user temp root access =)
[00:58] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, configuration might not be reloaded/regenerated until restart, so uh restart
[00:59] <ernz> samuli: I got it sussed. Fixed it by: 1) Install nvidia nvidia-glx-185 package. 2) Run nvidia-xconfig (This writes the new xorg.conf) 3) Restart 4) compiz --replace - SIMPLES!
[00:59] <WinterWeaver> I need to update mlt-python package. If I force it to upgrade it says it will remove, '...debian-also', in favour of, 'debian-pulseaudio'. (more details here: http://dpaste.com/118941/ ) ... Can I do this, or will I break my sound?
[00:59] <icedwater> VCoolio - why would sudo -s work?
[00:59] <Pholious> alright, brb
[00:59] <seidos> what kind of battery life should i expect from a 5200mah battery?
[00:59] <U236Willy> had a laptop go into sleep/hibernate mode last night... now it won't come out of it. I held the powerbutton down to have it shut off completely and now it just starts up and does nothing.
[00:59] <shawn1980> phantomciruit how do i restart in single user mode
[00:59] <bastid_raZor> phantomcircuit: for missing title bars you're having him delete his entire home.. that is an ignorant fix.
[00:59] <icedwater> preet: Ah, but then that was what I was wishing for when I encountered rpm and yum :P
[00:59] <Anacranom> samuli, i have no idea the ins-and-outs of it, i just know i've installed tons to a live session and copied the conf files to the "real" files
[00:59] <samuli> ernz, good :)
[00:59] <bastid_raZor> shawn1980: booting to recovery mode is single user mode
[00:59] <VCoolio> icedwater: as far as I know it enters a root terminal, so next commands are run as root; run exit to go back to normal
[01:00] <shawn1980> whats the command
[01:00] <icedwater> Hm, OK.
[01:00] <Anacranom> samuli, i have no idea the ins-and-outs of it, i just know i've installed tons to a live session and copied the conf files to the "real" files, also Xubuntus
[01:00] <ernz> samuli: Thanks for the help. I like that search command. Will come in handy in the future. Good night.
[01:00] <Xubuntus> Anacranom, icedwater. Why I want to do this is because the Xubuntu does NOT have a good/working AUDIO-config/setup, but this UbuntuLive-environment has a MARVOULESS one!
[01:00] <phantomcircuit> bastid_raZor, i made a point of asking him whether he just installed or not...
[01:00] <icedwater> shawn1980: Just reboot the computer, then select the menu option to go to single mode.
[01:00] <VCoolio> icedwater: not sure yet what the difference is with sudo -i, but I saw sudo -s on help.ubuntu.com somewhere, so I guess it's ok
[01:00] <Evito> where should the xbindkeysrc file be?
[01:00] <samuli> nighty night ernz
[01:00] <icedwater> You may have to press ESC to see the Grub menu at bootup, so.
[01:00] <Ronnie> HI can somebody help me get rid of Pulse Audio its driving me nuts.
[01:01] <VCoolio> Evito: in home, hidden, with a .  dot in front
[01:01] <phantomcircuit> shawn1980, restart and select the option with "Rescue Mode" in it, most likely the second option
[01:01] <shawn1980> ok
[01:01] <icedwater> VCoolio: I'm not sure about sudo in the first place, I just know it works. It borrows the environment variables of root and executes a single command as root, does it not?
[01:01] <Xubuntus> How does the soundrecognition actually work in Ubuntu, compared to Xubuntu?
[01:01] <Evito> the actual home folder or inside the users named folder
[01:01] <shawn1980> thats phantom
[01:01] <tomvolek> HI all, upgraded from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and now java inside firefox doesnt work on a 64 bit, is this a common problem ?
[01:01] <Leonard> running the ubuntu 9.10 live cd, logged out to apply some display settings but whats default login credentials to get back in?
[01:01] <Anacranom> Evito, VCoolio hit ctrl+h to see hidden files in gui
[01:01] <samuli> Anacranom, you have to mount the file system on your harddrive to do that I would guess
[01:01] <shawn1980> exit
[01:02] <Evito> tomvolek, got same prob
[01:02] <petteyg> Anybody got suspend/resume working on a laptop with HD3200?
[01:02] <Evito> Anacranom; it didnt put one in there, so im copying the example file there to make it work thats why i ask whcih one
[01:02] <tomvolek> ouch Evito .. I am googling around , but nothign so far
[01:02] <seidos> Xubuntus: i would think that sound recognition would be the same in xubuntu and ubuntu
[01:02] <Anacranom> samuli, just click on it thru gui in computer> /media/xxxx
[01:02] <icedwater> Xubuntus: I have no idea. But I would guess Ubuntu is working better because whatever Xubuntu makes has to come after Ubuntu is released. So they might have a better set of libraries, perhaps.
[01:02] <Leonard> cant log back in at all :(
[01:03] <icedwater> But that isn't always true.
[01:03] <Evito> Not all that worried about it myself, not like java is all that useful :)
[01:03] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, thanks, it's back now, wish i backed up somw files from home though lol, I'll sort the rest out tomorrow and keep a good eye on not losing that bar again :P
[01:03] <phantomcircuit> VCoolio, sudo -i simulates an initial login, which means all new environment variables (except for TERM and DISPLAY)
[01:03] <tomvolek> :)
[01:03] <icedwater> Pholious: which bar is that you were missing?
[01:03] <sdouble> speaking of xubuntu, which is lighter as a fresh default install?  ubuntu or xubuntu?
[01:03] <icedwater> It's supposed to be xubuntu, right?
[01:03] <phantomcircuit> Pholious, it was probably some crazy gtk configuration thing, you probably could have found and fixed it... but it would have taken a loooong time
[01:03] <Xubuntus> seidos: EXACTLY what I thought, and why I also installed Xubuntu.
[01:04] <VCoolio> icedwater: I really don't know much more than that it works and seems ok to use; phantomcircuit thanks; not sure if that's important if I just want to run something with root permissions
[01:04] <icedwater> Just based on the DE alone, which should be more clunky with GNOME than XFCE..
[01:04] <Pholious> icedwater, think they call it a title bar in ubuntu :D
[01:04] <samuli> sdouble, xubuntu would be, but it's not like you need much of a computer to run ubuntu or kubuntu either
[01:04] <Xubuntus> But, No one in the Xubuntu channel knows the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu regarding AUDIO.
[01:04] <Pholious> phantomcircuit, aye, been trying to work that baby out for hours the other night, was a tough one :D
[01:04] <randomusr> has anyone recently installed adobe reader? Firefox wants me to run a .bin file instead of installing the addon
[01:04] <icedwater> VCoolio: yeah, I didn't catch the question, but I usually only use sudo. Not many options needed.
[01:04] <Evito> So if i want to create say a button that kills on mouseclick like the forcequit thingie, what line do i add to the keybinds file
[01:04] <icedwater> Pholious: title bar for what, the terminal?
[01:04] <seidos> Xubuntus: are the versions the same for ubuntu and xubuntu?
[01:04] <samuli> it's almost sad only ~300 MB of my ram is in use usually on ubuntu :)
[01:05] <seidos> Xubuntus: for example, are you comparing 9.04 to 9.04?
[01:05] <Pholious> icedwater, quite a lot of apps, like xchat, terminal, video player/totem, VLC
[01:05] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[01:05] <sanubuntu> this problem driving me batty, i trying to get this laptop ready to leave as a gift in costa rica b4 i leave on saturday .. arrrrgggghhhh
[01:05] <Xubuntus> seidos, YES, 9.10 and 9.10. Karmic and Karmic.
[01:05] <Tritonio> hello. i use Karmic and most games from the official repos cannot exit.  I can only stop them by sending them a SEGV signal with kill.
[01:05] <sanubuntu> i just save a photo to the desktop to see if it shows up, it doesn't show up on 'the desktop' area, but it IS in the desktop file  ...
[01:05] <icedwater> Hmm... could it per chance have been a window manager issue? Metacity, perhaps.
[01:05] <Xubuntus> seidos, Working and not working. ?!?!?!
[01:05] <Xubuntus> :)
[01:05] <VCoolio> samuli: now switch to lightweight wm and apps and you'll get even sadder
[01:05] <Xubuntus> + :(
[01:06] <randomusr> nevermind, installing from synaptic
[01:06] <rsc___> hey guys. how would one go about recoloring an SVG iconset (like humanity)? I would use imagemagick if it were PNGs, but they aren't.
[01:06] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get clean Tritonio
[01:06] <seidos> samuli: what desktop environment?
[01:06] <samuli> gnome
[01:06] <samuli> with compiz
[01:06] <Tritonio> OerHeks: ok i will try it now. is it a known error?
[01:07] <seidos> Xubuntus: i think you can install fluxbox on ubuntu, maybe that is the easiest solution
[01:07] <sdouble> yeah, I normally use wmii but am using gnome right because I was having a sound issue.  turned out my sound was muted  =P
[01:07] <Xcell> I average 270-300 megs with it.. thats why i installed 4 gigs
[01:07] <seidos> i'm using 650MB right now, i don't have desktop effects enabled
[01:07] <Xubuntus> seidos, What?
[01:07] <icedwater> I'm not exactly sure what you've described, Pholius, but I've seen windows without title bars before and I was told to use metacity --replace. I know what that does, to some extent, but I haven't been able to figure out why there is such a bug in the first place.
[01:07] <DanaG> rsc___: Isn't svg just some sort of XML-based thingy?  Try opening one with a text editor.
[01:07] <Xcell> wow.. somethings wrong lol
[01:07] <phantomcircuit> im using 2GB right now :P
[01:07] <DanaG> Perhaps you can do a 'sed' or such.
[01:07] <icedwater> rsc___: Yeah, I would have suggested that.
[01:07] <JacobT1> hey room
[01:07] <Xubuntus> seidos, How does Fluxbox help me copy the audio-config?
[01:07] <icedwater> Ah, the wonders of being in an IRC channel.
[01:08] <hikenboot_> what is the irc channel for powerpc version
[01:08] <U236Willy> where does ubuntu 9.10 save to on the disk during a sleep/hibernate?
[01:08] <icedwater> hikenboot_: You can probably just ask your questions here.
[01:08] <phantomcircuit> oh my
[01:08] <icedwater> I'm no expert, but I don't think there are architecture-specific channels :)
[01:08] <phantomcircuit> how does gnome-panel need 80 MiB of resident memory
[01:08] <randomusr> !kiba
[01:08] <samuli> I'm using 335MB with firefox 4 tabs open, transmission on.. 6 programs total + daemons/services
[01:08] <samuli> zero swap
[01:08] <randomusr> !kiba-dock
[01:09] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Where are you seeing this, in top?
[01:09] <Ronnie> >> Is there anybody on that can give me information on how to remove Pulse Audio from Karmic? :( its driving me mad. i used to use esound on 8.04..
[01:09] <seidos> Xubuntus: I'm making an assumption that flux is what xubuntu uses, so i was recommeding installing ubuntu on the system with xubuntu, then install flux, if you're trying to learn how audio is configured, then that's another story.
[01:10] <MarkDude> !grub2
[01:10] <phantomcircuit> iceberg, seeing what? gnome-panel? uh the gnome system monitor thingie
[01:10] <phantomcircuit> whatever that is
[01:10] <icedwater> seidos: I would have though Xubuntu used XFCE, that's where the name is from.
[01:10] <eae> fwiw, my frozen ubuntu remix install on my laptop is back on track, I needed to reboot a few times.  but seems good now.  btw, it was a joy to select that replace Microsoft Windows option. This is my first linux install.  sure looks like the ubuntu community has done a great job.  I applaud you guys.
[01:10] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Lol, iceberg :)
[01:10]  * icedwater smiles at iceberg :)
[01:10] <seidos> Xubuntus: i'm under the impression that pulseaudio is necessary for audio to work out of the box.  you can pgrep pulseaudio on the xubuntu system to see if it's even running.
[01:10] <Tritonio> OerHeks: running sudo apt-get clean returned no output and neither is my problem gone. for example kiki-the-robot still doesn't exit (that one doesn't even close its window, other games do but still use CPU and can't get killed.)
[01:10] <seidos> icedwater: thanks
[01:10] <icedwater> eae: why do you say that?
[01:10] <phantomcircuit> icedwater, the about doesnt give it's real name :|
[01:11] <phantomcircuit> uh
[01:11] <phantomcircuit> it's command line is gnome-system-monitor
[01:11] <icedwater> Oh, gnome-system-monitor.
[01:11] <icedwater> OK.
[01:11] <Ronnie> >-<
[01:11] <icedwater> I used to use top until I finally bothered to install conky.
[01:11] <JacobT1> why will my computer not update and stuff if it is not on the domain?
[01:11] <Xubuntus> siedos, It uses XFCE (or XCFE). Really good together with Compiz-Fusion.
[01:11] <icedwater> Check that out, it's fun.
[01:11] <JacobT1> liek i bring my computer hoem from work and it lags logging in and stuff
[01:11] <sanubuntu> can someone please help me with this problem
[01:11] <samuli> phantomcircuit, haha. I have no idea. My gnome-panel uses 8.3 MB
[01:11] <icedwater> Xubuntus: try tab-complete :P
[01:11] <samuli> sorry 6.3 MB
[01:12] <icedwater> samuli: I guess that depends on what you're trying to do with it.
[01:12] <seidos> Xubuntus: i installed xfce on this system, liked it, but there were deal breakers
[01:12] <shalrath> is php5.2.10 in karmic broken?
[01:12] <seidos> i also didn't find it much faster than gnome
[01:13] <icedwater> VCoolio: So apparently sudo -s starts a shell as root. Isn't that like sudo sh ./pathname?
[01:13] <Pholious> what program do you guys prefer for changing window themes in ubuntu?
[01:13] <TheCheeze> does anyone happen to know how to make a wallpaper "theme" in Karmic? I don't know how to work it better or i would google. I mean like how there are some wallpaper options with multiple pictures that it cycles thorugh...
[01:13] <TheCheeze> word it better*
[01:13] <Xubuntus> seidos, What dealbreakers?
[01:13] <mirror_man> Hi. Ubuntu 9.10 does not configure my screen res properly, it only gives 800x600 max and I want 1024x768. My monitor will support higher than this so that's ok. Graphics is intel 82865G. I made an xorg.conf and put the right line in section screen -> subsection display but the screen res is still 800x600 after rebooting. Question: how do I get ubuntu to recognise xorg.conf?
[01:13] <samuli> icedwater, I suppose if you have some memory-hog or even malfunctioning applet on the panel.
[01:13] <VCoolio> icedwater: sure, but the op said that didn't work for him, so I thought let's try a detour
[01:14] <icedwater> Yeah, he did say that it didn't work. I know, I was just trying to figure out the difference.
[01:14] <seidos> Xubuntus: hmmm, need time to recall.  i still have it just in case i need it though
[01:14] <Xcell> wallpaporz i think its called
[01:14] <ohmy> hi
[01:14] <Xcell> paperz
[01:14] <phantomcircuit> samuli, yehah gnome seems to eat memory
[01:15] <phantomcircuit> system has been up for like a few days but that doesnt really seem that extreme
[01:15] <samuli> phantomcircuit, not my experience though, but I've heard people say that
[01:15] <ohmy> my kubuntu 9.10 doesnt detect my ATI graphic card, what's the driver to install to have the best opengl performances (i dont care about compiz and co)
[01:15] <VCoolio> icedwater: maybe he needed sudo "sh ./path"
[01:15] <seidos> Xubuntus: i'm pretty sure colors were an issue.  couldn't get it with the black background, i prefer this color scheme.  also mouse config, my mouse buttons are switched.  oh, more importantly, couldn't organize open apps on the panel
[01:15] <icedwater> gnome-panel is sleeping on 15 MB over here ... but then I'm on Debian Lenny :P
[01:15] <phantomcircuit> sanubuntu, what's the probelm?
[01:15] <Xubuntus> seidos, None of those are problems in my Xubuntu-install.
[01:16] <samuli> I managed to get my panel up from 6.3 to 12 MB by using transparency :P
[01:16] <icedwater> As I was saying, IRC is like a fish market, only people respond to everyone else :P
[01:16] <seidos> Xubuntus: interesting.  i should install in a virtual machine.  maybe after i install zenix in a virtual machine
[01:16] <icedwater> I like the transient sense of connectedness it gives you.
[01:16] <Xubuntus> siedos, Have you got a working flashplayer on youtube - one that you can click HD and then Fullscreen on?
[01:16] <icedwater> Then I go out and talk to my real friends :P
[01:17] <celthunder> ohb66, enable kms if it is enabled for your card
[01:17] <seidos> icedwater: stop gloating :(
[01:17] <icedwater> seidos: I like IRC :P Don't get me wrong.
[01:17] <seidos> if you have a 5200mah battery, what kind of battery life do you get?
[01:17] <kisuke> icedwater: "these are my frends see how they glisten..."
[01:17] <seidos> icedwater: i know what you meant, i am not getting you wrong. ;)
[01:17] <Xubuntus> How do I know what audioconfig my now-running system is using?
[01:17] <icedwater> ;)
[01:18] <erh> a couple days ago all my browsers started displaying some text wierd. see image. top text is normal, bottom is bold. it just stretches instead of boldening.. any ideas? http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6130/asdfc.jpg
[01:18] <Xcell> seidos-  if you program the batt properly it will do you justice.
[01:18] <bastid_raZor> seidos: probably just over 2 horus
[01:18] <Dam0>  can someone tell me whats wrong with this code for my eggdrop: http://pastebin.com/m171e9217
[01:18] <mgv1> dost anyone knows why flash freezes after video-mic confirmation opens?
[01:18] <seidos> bastid_raZor: ah, that's what i was getting before...*the incident*
[01:18] <seidos> Xcell: ...
[01:18] <damdooom> help
[01:19] <icedwater> Has anyone got experience tweaking keytouch to get their keyboards working fully? (eg Fn-* combinations, etc.)
[01:19] <Xubuntus> When I run "pgrep pulseaudio" (on LiveCD-env) I get "3330". What's that 3330 about?
[01:19] <bastid_raZor> seidos: my battery is 4400 and i get right at 2 hours.
[01:19]  * seidos throws damdooom a life preserver
[01:19] <samuli> does anyone know why audio backends in linux have to suck?
[01:19] <hikenboot_> how do i boot the powerpc version into single user no graphics mode from the boot: prompt
[01:19] <icedwater> Xubuntus: man pgrep :P
[01:19] <phantomcircuit> Dam0, now im prettttty sure this is the wrong channel for that
[01:19] <seidos> Xubuntus: that means pulseaudio is running and its pid is 3330
[01:19] <Dam0> phantomcircuit,  this is the only channel i get a responce in
[01:20] <icedwater> Well, you might not get the kind of response you like. Maybe apt-get install patience?
[01:20] <mirror_man> !xorg.conf
[01:20] <icedwater> Oops, that was mean :P
[01:20] <phantomcircuit> Dam0, oh hey look http://www.eggheads.org/support/
[01:20]  * icedwater ruffles Dam0's hair.
[01:20] <redDEAD> hey everyone, why cant i right click when suing compiz in ubuntu 9.10
[01:20] <samuli> 9.10 still uses those init-scripts?
[01:21] <bastid_raZor> samuli: yes and no..
[01:21] <mgv1> there is anyway for ubuntu to join voice chats?????????????????????
[01:21] <bastid_raZor> !upstart | samuli
[01:21] <Xubuntus> seidos, Is pulseaudio included in ALSA?
[01:21] <seidos> Xubuntus: i know on my system, which uses snd_hda_intel "driver" i need the snd_hda_intel module and pulseaudio for it to work
[01:21] <phantomcircuit> Dam0, amazingly you are on the only major network without an official eggdrop channel
[01:21] <phantomcircuit> impressive
[01:21] <samuli> bastid_raZor, nice to know those old commands still work, though
[01:21] <kisuke> !compile > kisuke
[01:21] <phantomcircuit> mgv1, voice chats?
[01:21] <Xubuntus> seidos, Is pulseaudio kind'a included in ALSA?
[01:21] <seidos> Xubuntus: i think ALSA and pulseaudio are separate.  pulseaudio is *like* a proxy
[01:22] <redDEADresolve> hey everyone, why cant i right click in ubuntu 9.10 using compiz as my window manager?
[01:22] <kisuke> pulseaudio like to break things randomly
[01:22] <mgv1> voice chats with few peopls together phantomcircuit
[01:22] <linuxguy2009> Hi guys I just got the matching DVD+/-RW for my Dell Mini 10v netbook. Ubuntu 9.10 NRE thinks that I have a floppy and cdrom whener I unplug the drive. When I plug it in, they disapear and the DVDRW is mounted. Should I just ignore that?
[01:22] <samuli> bastid_raZor, do you reckon there's faster boots available if they would just forget about those scripts and have upstart the way it's meant to be?
[01:22] <Halitech> mgv1, you mean like msn or yahoo or skype?
[01:22] <phantomcircuit> mgv1, so you mean like what software would allow you do have a conference call?
[01:22] <Xubuntus> Does anyone know HOW TO COPY AUDIO-CONFIG FROM UBUNTU TO UBUNTU?
[01:23] <seidos> hmmm, he brings up a good point.  what process is running for alsa?
[01:23] <redDEADresolve> linuxguy2009, what is NRE
[01:23] <icedwater> Xubuntus: CAPITAL LETTERS DON'T HELP
[01:23] <bastid_raZor> samuli: i've heard the slow boots are attritubed to fsck checking drives on boot
[01:23] <Snausages> can anyone point out a good full system backup utility for ubuntu?
[01:23] <Xubuntus> You saw it? :)
[01:23] <rsc___> what sort of audio config?
[01:23] <witeshark> anyone working on the java security update?
[01:23] <Xubuntus> I know the reason.
[01:23] <mgv1> Halitech, phantomcircuit - i want to join existing chat
[01:23] <icedwater> Xubuntus: my guess is it's not a single file or directory... you would probably have to set up some package?
[01:23] <astechgeek> i setup a software raid5 array is there a way to get it to mount on boot?
[01:23] <Halitech> mgv1, existing chat on what protocal?
[01:24] <seidos> Xubuntus: this how to might help you out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[01:24] <Xubuntus> rsc___, the one thats working/is on right now.
[01:24] <ohmy> Any one can tell me how to get a descent OpenGL driver for my ATI ardeon X300 on kubuntu 9.10 please !
[01:24] <icedwater> I'm not too familiar with Xubuntu, though. It should use the same repos as Ubuntu does, doesn't it?
[01:24] <mgv1> Halitech, doesnt matter
[01:24] <bastid_raZor> samuli: obviously this isn't confirmed but a friend of mine set in fstab to not check his partitions and boots times improved.
[01:24] <Halitech> mgv1, well if it is an existing chat then yes it does matter
[01:24] <samuli> bastid_raZor, I doubt anyone can say 9.10 is a slow booter with out something like that happening in the background. What I meant is if the boot time would be even faster if they abandoned the old and just used upstart without init scripts
[01:24] <mirror_man> Hi. Ubuntu 9.10 does not configure my screen res properly, it only gives 800x600 max and I want 1024x768. My monitor will support higher than this so that's ok. Graphics is intel 82865G. I made an xorg.conf and put the right line in section screen -> subsection display but the screen res is still 800x600 after rebooting. Question: how do I get ubuntu to recognise xorg.conf?
[01:24] <icedwater> ohmy: Patience, someone will answer your question at some point. :) We're all here because we have a problem of some sort :)
[01:24] <seidos> what's the command to reset pulseaudio?
[01:25] <phantomcircuit> mgv1, uh so you want to take two independent voice chats and combine them without ever hanging up? i dont know of any system that is designed to do that for windows or linux
[01:25] <john`> anyone know a program to use gmail chat client through terminal?
[01:25] <mgv1> there arent chats to join on skype Halitech
[01:25] <john`> text base one like naim
[01:25] <john`> but can use gmail chat
[01:25] <crohakon> Is there a faster place to download the newest edition of ubuntu as the official link is downloading at  12kbs
[01:25] <Halitech> mgv1, there are if you have friends on there
[01:25] <ohmy> icedwater, right, sorry .. i've just recovered my PC after a crash and i'm tired ... hopefully i'll get some help tomorrow :/
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> samuli: ah, i see. upstart has has been in 8.10 and 9.04 just not fully used. now the big switch to upstart used over init.d is in place.
[01:25] <icedwater> ohmy: Have you tried searching for drivers on google? :)
[01:25] <Anacranom> Xubuntus, tell rsc___ that you are on live cd trying to copy current audio config to the actual installed partition because this one works
[01:25] <icedwater> ohmy: I know, it can be frustrating sometimes.
[01:25] <TheCheeze> does anyone happen to know how to make a wallpaper "theme" in Karmic? I don't know how to describe it better or i would google. I mean like how there are some wallpaper options with multiple pictures that it cycles thorugh...
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> crohakon: use the torrents.
[01:25] <icedwater> IRC is like that, we just have to wait.
[01:26] <phantomcircuit> crohakon, bittorrent
[01:26] <crohakon> how? where is the link?
[01:26] <john`> icedwater: do you know one?
[01:26] <crohakon> I did not see a torrent link on the website
[01:26] <phantomcircuit> it's on the normal download page somewhere
[01:26] <randomusr> is kiba dock no longer available?
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> crohakon:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/   on this page
[01:26] <linuxguy2009> redDEADresolve: sorry NRE-netbook remix edition
[01:26] <icedwater> TheCheeze: no one answered your question, eh. Are you using KDE?
[01:26] <mgv1> phantomcircuit, helitech - look - some websites allow flash chat with audio but flash doesnt works good with linux - so what ive left with?
[01:26] <icedwater> john`: Let me scroll back ... do I know one what?
[01:27] <TheCheeze> icedwater, gnome
[01:27] <redDEADresolve> linuxguy2009, thats what i thought
[01:27] <Xubuntus> siedos, been there...
[01:27] <mgv1> phantomcircuit, helitech - probably no options
[01:27] <john`> icedwater: a text base gmail chat client
[01:27] <Xcell> TheCheeze-   this?    http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/
[01:27] <phantomcircuit> mgv1, uh you're talking about a conference call
[01:27] <rsc___> Xubuntus 9.10 still uses pulseaudio yeah? you can check ~/.pulse and /etc/pulse
[01:27] <john`> icedwater: does it exist one in terminal?
[01:27] <icedwater> mgv1: Try adding the medibuntu repositories, then getting flash from there, that's usually pretty good.
[01:27] <Halitech> mgv1, flash works fine for me but you need to explain exactly what you want to do
[01:27] <mgv1> phantomcircuit, yes
[01:27] <phantomcircuit> crohakon, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[01:27] <rsc___> Xubuntus but then again it may be more than your pulseaudio config making your audio work
[01:27] <icedwater> john`: Not offhand, no. Have you tried apt-cache search?
[01:27] <phantomcircuit> crohakon, if you're going to upgrade make sure to get the alternative install cd
[01:28] <icedwater> TheCheeze: I suspected that might be it, because KDE offers that option pretty easily.
[01:28] <phantomcircuit> mgv1, skype
[01:28] <Xubuntus> rsc___, I'm on live cd trying to copy current audio config to the actual installed partition because this one works.
[01:28] <crohakon> ahh, there is the 800kbs I was looking for
[01:28] <Xubuntus> :)
[01:28] <lgc> Hi. How can I just download the distro upgrade without installing it?
[01:28] <john`> icedwater: i haven't but i did try google, but with no luck =(
[01:28] <rsc___> Xubuntus: you can check ~/.pulse and /etc/pulse
[01:28] <Halitech> lgc, download the alternative install cd
[01:28] <JacobT1> can anyone plz help me
[01:28] <icedwater> TheCheeze: I think you might want to work on a script to rotate wallpapers ... try searching for that :)
[01:28] <rsc___> Xubuntus: is your live cd the same version of ubuntu as your installed version?
[01:28] <phantomcircuit> Jack21, restate question
[01:28] <TheCheeze> icedwater, i know in windows i could just put the ones i wanted into a folder and rotate through that way, but i dont see even an option like that
[01:29] <ha1331> how does one change to generic desktop on ubuntu netbook remix?
[01:29] <phantomcircuit> JacobT1, restate question
[01:29] <icedwater> Yeah, TheCheeze ... that is Windows.
[01:29] <lgc> Halitech, I'm looking for something along the lines of "apt-get dist-upgrade -whatever"
[01:29] <mgv1> phantomcircuit, what? there arnt chats like that in skype on linux- what is medibuntu?
[01:29] <mrXX> i cant load ubuntu, it boots up in a GRUB mode, how can i recover? I had made some changes in the alsa-base.conf file before restarting,  plzzz help me, i miss ubuntu
[01:29] <icedwater> I'm pretty sure the option exists, but I have never needed it, so I didn't look it up.
[01:29] <ha1331> I mean How do I get rid of that moron mode that is enabled by default
[01:29] <JacobT1> that when im not connectd to the domain when i try to update the system it will lock up
[01:29] <Halitech> lgc, not sure if there is an option for that or not
[01:29] <arand> !medibuntu | mgv1
[01:29] <JacobT1> when im not ont he domain and do anythign w/ log on information it takes forever for it to work
[01:29] <icedwater> mgv1: I use skype on linux, incidentally. Medibuntu is ... there we go :P
[01:30]  * icedwater smiles at ubottu.
[01:30] <icedwater> ha1331: What moron mode?
[01:30] <sumeetbali> hey
[01:30] <Xubuntus> rsc___, Yes, same version. Both are Karmic, 9.10.
[01:30] <mrXX> ubottu dude, i messed up with ubuntu, i modified the alsa-base.conf file a little(for my mic to work) and after i restart all i have is a grub screen and i dont know what to do,   did I lose Ubuntu?
[01:30] <rsc___> icedwater: he means the default menu thing of the netbook remix
[01:31] <mgv1> skype on linux doesnt has chats to join to?
[01:31] <icedwater> It's not perfect, I must say - Skype's interface disappears when I start a video call..
[01:31] <phantomcircuit> JacobT1, im sorry can you please restate your problem in a complete sentence
[01:31] <ha1331> icedwater: every window opens full screen, there is no desktop just netbookish looking main window where one can choose what to do etc.
[01:31] <mgv1> without the mark
[01:31] <phantomcircuit> JacobT1, im still not even sure what you're trying to ask
[01:31] <lgc> Halitech, there is one, indeed. I just don't remember it right now. That's why I ask.
[01:31] <john`> hmm
[01:31] <ha1331> icedwater: 9.10 nbr
[01:31] <Xubuntus> rsc___, Also, it seems like the cd uses pulse. And the Xubuntu has got a "/etc/pulse".
[01:31] <mrXX> guys plz help me recover my ubuntu, it boots up only in grub mode
[01:31] <Halitech> mgv1, no, you can only call someone on your friend list
[01:31] <icedwater> Hmm... mgv1: sorry, I can't say much about that there. I don't use Skype on windows much any more.
[01:31] <Halitech> lgc, ok, I've never used it .... have you tried the man pages for apt or google?
[01:32] <JacobT1> like the automatic system updates if there is one it will not install it unless i am connected to the domain
[01:32] <rsc___> Xubuntus: see if there are any significant differences between the /etc/pulse of both installations. I'd also check /home/username/.pulse :>
[01:32] <mrXX> Xubuntt dude, i messed up with ubuntu, i modified the alsa-base.conf file a little(for my mic to work) and after i restart all i have is a grub screen and i dont know what to do,   did I lose Ubuntu?
[01:32] <icedwater> mrXX: What does it tell you after it goes past the grub screen?
[01:32] <lgc> Halitech, when all else fails...read the manual!
[01:32] <mrXX> ubottu dude, i messed up with Xubuntu modified the alsa-base.conf file a little(for my mic to work) and after i restart all i have is a grub screen and i dont know what to do,   did I lose Ubuntu?
[01:32] <Halitech> lgc, best I can suggest at the moment
[01:32] <freaky[t]> hi all. how do i switch between X11 cursor themes?
[01:32] <icedwater> mrXX: You edited the alsa-base.conf file a little?
[01:32] <lgc> Halitech, thanks, anyway.
[01:33] <rsc___> Xubuntus: I wouldn't blindly copy over those though (from the live cd to the installation), although there's no harm if you back up whatever you'll replace. your lack of audio may be a problem with your kernel modules or something unrelated to pulse
[01:33] <samuli> freaky[t], from system/prefefences/appearance
[01:33] <leaf-sheep> freaky[t]: Appearances, I believe. Select a theme that you're using and customize it.
[01:33] <mrXX> icedwater yes, i changed a line in it, then restarted to check the mic,
[01:33] <freaky[t]> ah ok thank you :d
[01:33] <mrXX> icedwater but then it beets up in grub mode
[01:33] <icedwater> rsc___: I agree with you on that. Make a backup, then see what happens when you copy stuff over.
[01:33] <rai> what is the last support date of jaunty or do i get support always?
[01:33] <mrXX> icedwater dude i dont want to lose my files in there and the configuration
[01:33] <Halitech> !eol
[01:33] <DanaG> oh, and don't copy modules from one version to run on another.
[01:33] <icedwater> And do you see any error messages? And what exactly do you mean by grub mode?
[01:34] <DanaG> It won't work.
[01:34] <DanaG> Try linux-backports-modules-alsa
[01:34] <icedwater> mrXX: Don't worry, you'll be fine. Your stuff is still there.
[01:34] <osmosis> im not able to get it to boot all the way. It gets to the selection screen where I can say Try it now , or Install, or memtest.  But when I select Install or try it now, it just locks up.
[01:34] <Halitech> osmosis, what video card and system specs?
[01:34] <samuli> rai, it's always 18 months for regular releaseas and 3 years for LTS releases desktop
[01:34] <mrXX> icedwater it has the terminal screen with only this -    sh:Grub
[01:34] <Anacranom> icedwater, rsc___ Xubuntus Always back up any .conf or other file before editing it! ;-)
[01:35] <sanubuntu> hey guys, i've used the same 9.10 disk on two different laptops .. the first went off without a hitch .. but on this one (an old toshiba satellite) i don't get a desktop image, even tho i've selected one of the ubuntu studio ones.  what could be the case?  when i go to shut down, the image does appear briefly, but is not rendered in session.
[01:35] <mrXX> icedwater looks like there are some commands that go along with grub but i m a newbie :-(
[01:35] <osmosis> Halitech, MSI Wind,  Intel 945GME
[01:35] <phantomcircuit> sanubuntu, check the disc for errors
[01:35] <rai> that means i wont get security and other updates after 18months? samuli
[01:35] <mrXX> icedwater dude can i recover?
[01:35] <osmosis> Halitech, help appreciated. Im stuck.
[01:36] <Halitech> osmosis, which version are you trying?
[01:36] <osmosis> Halitech, 9.10 netbook remix
[01:36] <billybigrigger> anyone find anything wrong with the dagger release of MW2?
[01:36] <mrXX> icedwater is there a way to access the alsabase file from windows7? i can try changing that line again
[01:36] <sanubuntu> phantomcircuit, i used the disk for another installation and no similar problem
[01:36] <samuli> rai, not for normal releases. If you're not keen on upgrading much wait for the next (10.04) release that will be LTS :)
[01:36] <AaronM> is there anyway to downgrade from 9.10 to 9.04 and keep your files?
[01:36] <Halitech> osmosis, ok, I know 9.04 had issues with intel cards, not sure on 9.10 and never tried the netbook remix
[01:36] <mrXX> guys, my ubuntu doesn't boot up, it only boots up in the grub mode, how can i recover it?
[01:37] <Xubuntus> rsc___, There are some differences between the files in the directories.
[01:37] <phantomcircuit> sanubuntu, that does not necessarily mean the disc is clean just that the files accessed during the install of the first machine did not require dirty files
[01:37] <Halitech> AaronM, format and reinstall, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[01:37] <phantomcircuit> sanubuntu, just run the check it cant hurt
[01:37] <leaf-sheep> AaronM: Offically, no. Unoffically (and lame hacks). Probably.
[01:37] <icedwater> I am not familiar with Windows 7, mrXX, but I would expect not to be able to read the ext3 partitions Ubuntu makes from Windows 7.
[01:37] <samuli> mrXX, by grub mode do you mean the command line?
[01:37] <Anacranom> AaronM, if you put /home on a separate partition then yes
[01:37] <rai> when will that be released? 10.04 samuli
[01:37] <mrXX> samuli yes
[01:37] <AaronM> ugg
[01:37] <rsc___> Xubuntus: have a look at it, see if there are any significant changes that may be the source of the problem and hack away. make sure to back up.
[01:37] <samuli> rai, about 6 months from now
[01:37] <phantomcircuit> you can install 9.10 over 9.04 without losing /home
[01:37] <mrXX> samuli but it is not like the ubuntu terminal with good commands, it is strange i have no idea
[01:37] <phantomcircuit> so im assuming you can do 9.04 over 9.10
[01:37] <icedwater> mrXX: So it gets you to root@hostname #: something like this?
[01:37] <phantomcircuit> but no guarantees
[01:38] <icedwater> Hmm... do you notice any error messages, mrXX?
[01:38] <mrXX> icedwater no, it is just sh:grub
[01:38] <rai> thanks samuli
[01:38] <leaf-sheep> AaronM: Lot of people have issues in upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, perhaps the issue you're facing is relevant.
[01:38] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, I think it would have to format at least the / partition
[01:38] <Anacranom> AaronM, just put your /home on a separate partition
[01:38] <mrXX> icedwater maybe it cant load the kernel, that is what i feel, but i dont know the soln
[01:38] <Xubuntus> Anacronom, icedwater, rsc___; I had audio working on Xubuntu yesterday (25 hours ago :) ) but after reboot... byebye audio.  :(
[01:38] <icedwater> mrXX: I am not sure if you have a problem with GRUB2. I'm not too familiar with the new version, to be honest.
[01:39] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, no you dont if you do a manual partitioning
[01:39] <AaronM> i'd rather deal with the problems than go through all the trouble
[01:39] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, i did it for my 9.04->9.10 upgrade
[01:39] <mrXX> icedwater is there a way i can recover from cd? i tried but couldnt do anything
[01:39] <Guest82417> hello all. I have a question regarding installing Ubuntu on my PC.
[01:39] <icedwater> I am still trying to sort out some stuff with my disk partition table so I can install Karmic on a spare partition and play around with it.
[01:39] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, thats assuming a seperate /home partition
[01:39] <icedwater> mrXX: Do you have a live CD you could use?
[01:39] <mrXX> icedwater yes, it is 9.04 version though
[01:39] <samuli> mrXX, the best way to go about it would probably be first trying to reinstall/update grub
[01:40] <Xubuntus> icedwater, mrXX; Theres a HUGE advantage to go to the #grub channel. They are very helpful!
[01:40] <sanubuntu> phantomcircuit: is there a way for me to examine the installed system to get right to where the problem is?
[01:40] <osmosis> Halitech, I found a thread on the forums that says it will boot off of USB, but once the linux kernel is loaded, it loses the usb ports.
[01:40] <icedwater> Boot into that, mrXX - then in the 9.04 system, open a terminal.
[01:40] <Xubuntus> Okay. Time to hit the bed. Nice chatting and helping. Thx, so far!  Good nigth!
[01:40] <Xubuntus> *night
[01:40] <Xubuntus> ;)
[01:40] <Guest82417> okay, I have three hard drives in my PC
[01:40] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, no that is not
[01:41] <genezoz> Hey all I dont want to be "that guy" but is there a better place than this to ask 9.10 support questions?
[01:41] <icedwater> mrXX: once you're in the terminal, you can mount the hard disk partition where you have the modified alsa-base file...
[01:41] <mrXX> icedwater then what dude
[01:41] <Guest82417> I would like to install Ubuntu completely on an empty hard drive.
[01:41] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, explain
[01:41] <mrXX> icedwater but i dont see the contents
[01:41] <Guest82417> if I do, will my computer still ask me which OS to boot?
[01:41] <icedwater> genezoz: I would expect not - 9.10 is pretty new, so issues are coming in hard and fast. This is probably as good a place as any.
[01:41] <mrXX> icedwater it is as if i saw the partition from windows
[01:41] <samuli> genezoz, ubuntuforums perhaps? :)
[01:42] <Bruc> hey ubuntu its great aint it..
[01:42] <Anacranom> AaronM, heres a guide to put /home on a separate partition after install,, worth knowing, better to at install ;-)  http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=9
[01:42] <icedwater> mrXX: Have you booted from the liveCD yet? You should try that, boot into 9.04 first.
[01:42] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, my entire filesystem (except the NTFS windows mount) is on /dev/sda5. I specified manual partitioning when installing.  I did not specify any new formatting, I merely flagged /dev/sda5 as the partition to install on.  The installer then went about removing system directories but did NOT remove the home directory.
[01:42] <samuli> Bruc, can't beat it for the money or otherwise
[01:42] <Guest82417> if anyone could help, it would be appreciated.
[01:42] <Guest82417> I'm eager to
[01:42] <mrXX> icedwater ok , i m puting the cd now
[01:42] <Guest82417> install ubuntu
[01:42] <Bruc> yes fix windows istall ubuntu
[01:43] <Jetsetlemming1> Hey, I'm trying to get media hotkeys working in VLC. They're detected and assigned in the keyboard shortcut options, but the buttons don't do anything in VLC, even while they can still interact with the os itself, for example the mute button. Help?
[01:43] <icedwater> Guest82417: is that your only hard drive?
[01:43] <Jetsetlemming1> Using a Microsoft Wired 600 keyboard if that matters
[01:43] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, I'll take your word on that but you'll excuse me if I don't risk blowing my system up by trying it
[01:43] <Anacranom> Bruc, very tru, but i also fix windows WITH ubuntu ;-)
[01:43] <genezoz> I feel like I've searched everything and done everything. I'm having that black screen bug on boot with the -14-generic kernel. I guess it has to do with xorg. I've tried everything I've seen but I haven't been able to get past that black screen. Im using an ATI x800 pro. Which hasn't had any issues in ubuntu until this kernel. Im using a live CD atm.
[01:44] <Bruc> hehe
[01:44] <icedwater> Jetsetlemming1: I can't help you there, but I'd love to know if you get a solution. I'm on Debian and I'm trying to figure out how to get my special Fn-combinations to work.
[01:44] <Guest82417> Icedwater: no I have three, and I want to install it on one.
[01:44] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, you're downgrading to 9.04 correct? i wouldnt guarantee that would work, i know that upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 it did
[01:44] <icedwater> I see. And they're all connected at the same time, I suppose, Guest82417?
[01:44] <phantomcircuit> but the installer for 9.04 is different
[01:44] <Jetsetlemming1> Googling it suggests other people have ran into it, but I can't find a solution yet, either. I'm super new to this whole linux thing, so I'm not likely to come up with one myself
[01:44] <Halitech> icedwater, did you try keytouch? worked for me on my MS Natural keyboard
[01:45] <icedwater> (Also, please change your name, I'm sure you're more creative than that.)
[01:45] <iceberg> 03:21 #ubuntu: < syn-ack> iceberg, that is false.
[01:45] <iceberg> 15:24 #ubuntu: < phantomcircuit> iceberg, seeing what? gnome-panel? uh the gnome system monitor thingie
[01:45] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, I'm not doing anything
[01:45] <iceberg> pardon?
[01:45] <PhantomLink> be back shortly...going to run a quick errand with my mom :D
[01:45] <Guest82417> Icedwater: yes. Two of them have Windows files and one is empty. that's the one I want to install on.
[01:45] <syn-ack> iceberg, what are you talking about?
[01:45] <icedwater> Halitech: somewhere in the flood of questions I posted mine earlier, here it is again: I've got an issue with keytouch, namely, I don't know how to find out what model my keyboard is.
[01:46] <icedwater> iceberg: I think some people may have been lazy when tab-completing.
[01:46] <smwn> hey
[01:46] <iceberg> syn-ack, what were you talking about? heh.
[01:46] <icedwater> There's quite a few of us with ice* here :D
[01:46] <iceberg> icedwater, must have been.
[01:46] <smwn> i want to use ubuntu but can't cuz it doesnt like my usb wifi adaptor
[01:46] <smwn> any ideas
[01:46] <Prodego> icedwater: you are making me thirsty
[01:46] <smwn> i have 9.04
[01:46] <Jetsetlemming1> Also, while I'm asking button questions, is there a way to make the middle mouse button behave in Ubuntu/Firefox like it does in windows and make a scroll icon over your mouse so you can scroll with mouse gestures?
[01:46] <Halitech> icedwater, nothing on the bottom of the keyboard? (I know, too obvious but have to ask)
[01:46] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, oh i wonder who it was that was downgrading
[01:46] <smwn> not sure if 9.10 will be better with it
[01:46] <phantomcircuit> Halitech, oh well
[01:47] <samuli> smwn, usb-wifi... that spells trouble, hehe.
[01:47] <Halitech> phantomcircuit, AaronM I believe
[01:47] <kostkon> icedwater, check in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see how X is recognising it
[01:47] <icedwater> Guest82417: so ... yes, if you install Ubuntu on the one hard disk which is empty... and all of them are connected, you should have the option to set up the Grub bootloader.
[01:47] <phantomcircuit> iceberg, xchat compeltes to you even though i typed ice and it should have displayed a list of options, not sure why
[01:47] <phantomcircuit> icedwater, is it a usb keyboard?
[01:47] <smwn> yes it does
[01:47] <Anacranom> smwn, try the 9.10 live cd,, if works there, or shows in the restricted drivers, then ther ya go
[01:47] <AaronM> phantomcircuit i was planning to downgrade if it was simple
[01:47] <smwn> true
[01:48] <icedwater> Guest82417: This will allow you to choose which operating system you want at boot time.
[01:48] <smwn> well i don't want to buy windows 7
[01:48] <icedwater> kostkon: Thanks, looking at it now.
[01:48] <smwn> cuz i want to feed my kids
[01:48] <samuli> lol
[01:48] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Halitech: nopes ... bit hard to look on the bottom if the keyboard is part of the laptop :P
[01:48] <phantomcircuit> AaronM, i believe that you can install 9.04 over 9.10 without deleting /home, i know you can install 9.10 without deleting /home, and im guessing the installers are similar, but im not sure
[01:48] <Halitech> icedwater, oh, you didn't mention that (at least I didn't see it)
[01:48] <Guest82417> Icedwater: is Grub bootloader automatically installed or must I install it?
[01:48] <icedwater> But I will look on the bottom nonetheless, and in Xorg.conf too :D
[01:48] <phantomcircuit> icedwater, what laptop
[01:49] <icedwater> Halitech: I didn't get to mention it in the midst of replying to others :D
[01:49] <hedkandi> has anyone got time to explain about the debian rules file?
[01:49] <icedwater> Guest82417: It should be automatically set up if you use the typical live CDs
[01:49] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: LG E310.
[01:49] <hedkandi> 'cos I don't understand it, esp the build target
[01:49] <icedwater> Not even sure how to go about googling for part numbers there.
[01:49] <gyso>  /motd
[01:49] <cafree> How can I do a clean install of Gnome?  My system is all out of whack and I've been unable to find any solution.
[01:50] <Guest82417> Icedwater: so if I use the Ubuntu live CD that I burned, it will work?
[01:50] <hedkandi> cafree, can't you just reinstall the gnome-desktop package in synaptics?
[01:50] <icedwater> kostkon: I think I've seen that before... it's uhm... one sec
[01:50] <samuli> cafree, not sure but would apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop do the trick?
[01:50] <kostkon> icedwater, otherwise, /var/log/dmesg should say something
[01:50] <hedkandi> samuli that's what I said
[01:51] <kostkon> icedwater, e.g.:  tail /var/log/dmesg | grep keyboard
[01:51] <phantomcircuit> god damn it
[01:51] <phantomcircuit> cacert is run by idiots
[01:51] <cafree> hedkandim samuli: I can give that a try
[01:51] <icedwater> Guest97552: Pikachu isn't all THAT bad :P
[01:51] <cafree> what's the diff between gnome and ubuntu desktop?
[01:51] <phantomcircuit> i send them a request to delete an account and they delete a wholly unrelated account
[01:51] <sumeetbali> xman
[01:51] <phantomcircuit> i didnt even mention the other account
[01:51] <Anacranom> !ohmy | phantom
[01:51] <sumeetbali> ?
[01:51] <eae> fresh ubuntu install - on an old Dell Latitude laptop. . . my video looks fine for applications, but it has fractured lines on the regular desktop
[01:51] <Anacranom> !ohmy | phantomcircuit
[01:51] <Guest97552> Icedwater: my stupid IRC client is screwing me up.
[01:52] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Well, they did delete an account.
[01:52] <icedwater> Anacranom: once is enough, maybe?
[01:52] <icedwater> Anacranom: once is enough, maybe?
[01:52]  * icedwater winks
[01:52] <samuli> cafree, ubuntu-desktop is just meta package for most things gnome and a little bit of ubuntu spesific stuff you have on fresh ubuntu install
[01:52] <ryan8403> hi can't seem to get os-prober to see my windows partition any suggestions?
[01:52] <icedwater> Pikachu_: Hh, which client is that?
[01:52] <phantomcircuit> icedwater, im still trying to figure out how they even knew the account they deleted was mine in the first place
[01:52] <Anacranom> lol, yeah, goofy kbd's but ..
[01:52] <zetheroo> The Ubuntu 9.10 survey is now available ... any takers?
[01:52] <pukeko> thunderbird & imap:  i have folders downloaded for off-line use , i want to "upload" the off-line files to another account on a differnt  imap server, can this be done ?   ---   i only have admin on one of the imaps ( the one i want to upload to )
[01:52] <Pikachu_> Icedwater: irchon, for iPhone/iPod touch
[01:52] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Some other registration details?
[01:53] <icedwater> Pikachu_: nice :)
[01:53] <Pikachu_> Icedwater: so using the live cd I burned will
[01:53] <Pikachu_> install grub?
[01:53] <samuli> it will
[01:53] <ixian_> hi
[01:53] <samuli> if you install the OS that is, obviously
[01:53] <icedwater> Pikachu_: it is part of the typical Ubuntu installation. :)
[01:54] <phantomcircuit> icedwater, one has by real name the other is my handle
[01:54] <Pikachu_> all right. thank you all, especially Icedwater.
[01:54] <phantomcircuit> they managed to delete the account for my real name, there are zero mentions of my real name on the account for my handle
[01:54] <sumeetbali> can i bring up old chatlogs in x-chat?
[01:54] <icedwater> kostkon: It goes by "xorg" "pc105" "us" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:54] <icedwater> Pikachu_: Well, take care and check back now and then :)
[01:54] <kostkon> icedwater, any mention of the model in dmesg?
[01:55] <dragon> how do I configure what service runs at n runlevel?
[01:55] <dragon> I'm aware of the presence of /etc/rc.d script hooks, but I'm looking for a tool.
[01:55] <icedwater> I'm trying to solve my issues and get to try Karmic other than on the USB stick :)
[01:55] <icedwater> dragon: The name escapes me at the moment, but there is probably a GUI option in System/Administration.
[01:55] <icedwater> Maybe services, or session, or some such.
[01:55] <Pici> !runlevels | dragon
[01:56] <dragon> icedwater: command line preferred
[01:56] <mirror_man> Hi. Ubuntu 9.10 does not configure my screen res properly, it only gives 800x600 max and I want 1024x768. My monitor will support higher than this so that's ok. Graphics is intel 82865G. I made an xorg.conf and put the right line in section screen -> subsection display but the screen res is still 800x600 after rebooting. Question: how do I get ubuntu to recognise xorg.conf?
[01:56] <icedwater> phantomcircuit: Big Brother is watching you?
[01:56] <icedwater> dragon: Ah.
[01:56] <Anacranom> icedwater, what issues you having? i could not install via USB stick, is that t?
[01:56] <dragon> !upstart
[01:56] <icedwater> Same preference as I have, but I'm not too familiar with command line.
[01:56] <Take0n> how do I get the environment I am running (like gnome, kde etc.) and the version?
[01:56] <dragon> ...
[01:57] <icedwater> dragon: I mean, for runlevel stuff.
[01:57] <icedwater> dragon: I know about the k99 s00 and whatnot, those are the script hooks you're referring to, right?
[01:57] <sp4z> anyone got tor running in 9.10 yet?
[01:57] <dragon> icedwater: i think so, yes
[01:57] <icedwater> Anacranom: nope, installer doesn't see my partitions properly and offers to wipe my hard disk. :)
[01:58] <icedwater> Anacranom: Live USB is the only way I've seen Karmic so far, is what I meant.
[01:58] <icedwater> s/seen/got to see/
[01:59] <zetheroo> One observation I have from Ubuntu 9.10 is that it seems very CPU hungry ...
[01:59] <icedwater> kostkon: Also, grep -v keyboard /var/log/dmesg returns nothing.
[02:00] <kostkon> icedwater, :(
[02:00] <icedwater> Oh wait. I need to sudo make them a sandwich.
[02:00] <icedwater> Well, it's the same crap I saw before.
[02:00] <icedwater> Apologies.
[02:00] <wolf23> somebody help please!
[02:00] <icedwater> kostkon: [    0.692103] input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input1
[02:01] <icedwater> wolf23: How so?
[02:01] <fireball> hi all. I upgraded other pc to 9.10 and gdm has failed on reboot, please advise
[02:01] <kostkon> icedwater, hmm, not much info :(
[02:01] <Anacranom> icedwater, ahh,,, mine would load live but when i went to install, it lost the id of the usb,,, and failed,, had to slave a cdrom drive to my HP Mini (no ODD) to install from cd...
[02:01] <icedwater> Yeah.
[02:01] <crackpot> is it possible to update ubuntu 32-bit to the 64-bit version without reformatting/reinstalling?
[02:01] <Halitech> crackpot, no
[02:01] <crackpot> thought so
[02:01] <icedwater> Anacranom: I think there are a few issues that need to be sorted out on Ubuntu's end, anyway.
[02:01] <crackpot> is it possible to install ubuntu x64 over top of 32-bit w/o reformatting?
[02:01] <dragon> crackpot: you don't have to reformat, but you have to reinstall. Isn't too hard, though.
[02:01] <wolf23> icedwater:  thanx dude, i want to know how to open a .jar file on terminal?
[02:02] <crackpot> yeah figured
[02:02] <Halitech> crackpot, well, should say officially no, unofficially ...
[02:02] <Take0n> so anyone?
[02:02] <crackpot> yeah
[02:02] <Take0n> how do I get the environment I am running (like gnome, kde etc.) and the version?
[02:02] <crackpot> i know the accepted method is to always reformat for a reinstall
[02:02] <Anacranom> icedwater, agreed
[02:02] <sp4z> take0n, system>about gnome
[02:02] <dragon> Take0n: Click on System > About GNOME
[02:02] <crackpot> does anyone else have any issues with firefox not saving username/passwords for websites?
[02:02] <dragon> :)
[02:02] <icedwater> wolf23: .jar archives are just disguised .tar.gz or something.
[02:02] <fireball> I upgraded other pc to 9.10 and gdm has failed on reboot, please advise
[02:02] <Take0n> sp4z, I want a command :)
[02:02] <crackpot> like i can't click the "Remember" button that drops down
[02:02] <Take0n> what if I don't run gnome?
[02:03] <icedwater> If you have the right libraries, you should be able to get it open, wolf23.
[02:03] <icedwater> fireball: What was the fail messag?
[02:03] <homoboy> anyone know why every time i try to burn any kind of video dvd i get error? or "inable to burn with current set of plugins?"
[02:03] <dragon> crackpot: if you're willing, try chromium from the repositories.
[02:03] <sp4z> take0n; system>about kde
[02:03] <icedwater> s/ag/age/
[02:03] <crackpot> chromium?
[02:03] <fireball> not sure there was one
[02:03] <fireball> i'll double check right now
[02:03] <Take0n> sp4z, I want a command to retrieve that information
[02:03] <Take0n> is it possible?
[02:03] <Digitalcheffe> can anyone help me change the owner of a file ive been at it for  an hour now and the can't figure out the damn command
[02:03] <crackpot> oh google chrome, yeah i just installed that, but i would prefer to use firefox
[02:04] <sanubuntu> i have no desktop (image)
[02:04] <sanubuntu> when i shut down, the image flashes on briefly, and disappears
[02:04] <icedwater> Digitalcheffe: change owner? ch(ange) own(er), therefore chown.
[02:04] <icedwater> chown --help :)
[02:04] <sp4z> take0n; maybe. did you google for it?
[02:04] <Halitech> Digitalcheffe, sudo chown
[02:04] <sanubuntu> if i save something to 'desktop' i can access it through the filesystem, but it does not appear on the desktop
[02:04] <dragon> Take0n, sp4z: ps -ef |grep gnome
[02:04] <Digitalcheffe> sorry of a file ive been using chmod
[02:04] <icedwater> kostkon: Well ... so no other ideas at the moment? :)
[02:04] <dragon> if you don't see much output, you're not running gnome, and maybe kde in that case.
[02:04] <Digitalcheffe> sorry i ment folder
[02:05] <icedwater> Same thing, try it, Digitalcheffe :)
[02:05] <anthonym2121> !user
[02:05] <homoboy> anyone know why every time i try to burn any kind of video dvd i get error? or "inable to burn with current set of plugins"? I have medibuntu libdvdcss2 installed so it does not make sense to me
[02:05] <samuli> Digitalcheffe, chmod changes permissions, chown changes owners
[02:05] <Take0n> dragon, is there a way to have that in a more general way? If the user doesn't run gnome it would return null or not at all.. I tried google but I don't know exactly what to look for I tried terminal environment or desktop but not much there..
[02:05] <Halitech> Digitalcheffe, sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/folder
[02:06] <kostkon> icedwater, eh, you could try lshw or lshw-gtk (gui version). it's a nice tool to have anyway.
[02:06] <O__o> hi, i just upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, may I ask whats different?
[02:07] <Halitech> O__o, 2 numbers
[02:07] <dragon> Take0n: so your question is: Is there a command line method to find a user's desktop environment?
[02:07] <kostkon> icedwater, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/lshw-gtk
[02:07] <icedwater> O__o: May I suggest you explore? :P There should be a changelog somewhere on Ubuntu's website, too :P
[02:07] <O__o> during the install process, it said something about the rpm not in used???
[02:07] <icedwater> Thanks, kostkon, though I'm on Debian at the moment. Package should be called the same thing, though.
[02:07] <Halitech> O__o, rpm is redhats package manager
[02:07] <losha> homoboy: ok, let's start at the beginning. What files are you trying to burn?
[02:07] <Digitalcheffe> wow apprently it did like being inside the /home/user/ folder to do it
[02:07] <Digitalcheffe> thanks
[02:07] <phoenix_> I am looking for help with removing UNR and getting Compiz to work properly again, can any1 help?
[02:07] <kostkon> icedwater, yeah
[02:07] <dragon> Take0n: try asking this question in ##linux
[02:08] <icedwater> O__o: Being a Debian derivative, .debs are in favour, though .rpms can be supported, too.
[02:08] <Take0n> thanks :)
[02:08] <samuli> is irc.ubuntu the new default for linux stuff?
[02:08] <icedwater> Hmm... O__o: missing implicit subject above: Ubuntu being a Debian derivative... :P
[02:08] <Prime_> so my laptop crashed in the middle of updating  and i when i rebooted it gives me this error can someone help me?
[02:09] <O__o> is there something new that is not there in 9.04?
[02:09] <genezoz> didnt get any responses before so trying again!
[02:09] <Halitech> Prime_, whats the error?
[02:09] <astechgeek> how can you set a raid array to mount on boot when it's not the swap, /boot, or /
[02:09] <Prime_> mountall:symbol lookup error:mountall:undefinedsymbol:udevmonitorfilteraddmarchsubsystemdevtmpeinit:mountall main process (719) terminated with status 127
[02:09] <homoboy> losha, i am trying to burn 2 .ogv files, both movies. at first i thought that maybe it was the format so i changed that to .avi with ffmpeg. did not work. I have used k3b, 2mandvd, devede, brasero, pretty much everything.
[02:09] <genezoz> im having the black screen at boot with 9.10. Im using ati x800
[02:09] <samuli> O__o, a lot check the change log
[02:09] <genezoz> ive tried literally everything
[02:09] <O__o> where is change log?
[02:10] <losha> homoboy: and you're trying to burn a dvd which will play in a regular dvd player?
[02:10] <wolf23> anyone please help! how should i run a file .jar from terminal?
[02:10] <dragon> how can I purge a package that has already been uninstalled?
[02:10] <icedwater> O__o: not too sure, but it should exist on the Ubuntu website. :)
[02:10] <homoboy> losha, yes.
[02:10] <Halitech> genezoz, did you try installing any drivers from the ati website?
[02:10] <kostkon> wolf23, java -jar someprogram.jar
[02:10] <icedwater> To clarify, guys, wolf23 tried java -jar filename.jar and it didn't work ...
[02:10] <homoboy> losha, i also used nero linux
[02:10] <Boom> Hello All. Am trying linux Kubuntu for the first time. Can someone please suggest a good winamp like player? thanks
[02:10] <icedwater> Ah, you beat me to it, kostkon :P
[02:10] <kostkon> icedwater, ;)
[02:11] <icedwater> wolf23: Why don't you tell them the error message?
[02:11] <wolf23> kostkon: yes i got this --> Unable to access jarfile AlMuathen.jar
[02:11] <sumeetbali> does anyone remember me i was talking to someone on how to chnage my desktop wallpaper automatically and now i dont remember who i was talking to ? i am lost!
[02:11] <kostkon> wolf23, ah, ok
[02:11] <samuli> 0__0. try a google search for "what's new in ubuntu 9.10" or similar
[02:11]  * DanaG ponders switching to Lucid repos.
[02:11] <bgd73> anyone running a rage128GL?
[02:11] <O__o> winamp?
[02:11] <genezoz> Halitech: I haven't. I read that the ATI drivers were worthless. And their recent catalyst pack doesnt support x800.
[02:11] <icedwater> Incidentally, kostkon, I'm installing lshw now. Hope that helps.
[02:11] <losha> homoboy: ok, first, there's only one file format you can use for dvd video, and that's mpeg2. You're going to have to convert your ogg files to mpeg2 vob files. Devede is the best tool of the ones you've mentioned for doing that.
[02:11] <nicle> Boom: audacious
[02:11] <O__o> that is so 10 yrs ago
[02:11] <Halitech> genezoz, ok, just wanted to make sure you hadn't
[02:11] <kostkon> icedwater, i hope so
[02:11] <catamarquence> i need to configure gamma of my monitor, but i dont have a xorg.conf file... how can i correct this?
[02:11] <AntiStrange> I have two different audio outputs. Rear and front. Is there a way that I can mute one and not the other?
[02:12] <Boom> nicle: Thankyou : )
[02:12] <Boom> will look it up
[02:12] <icedwater> sumeetbali: Not sure, you're not the only one I think - unless you /nicked :P
[02:12] <Halitech> genezoz, not that I agree the ati drivers are worthless, I'm using them with my hd4350 and they work fine for me
[02:13] <wolf23> kostkon:  do u know why?
[02:13] <crackpot> so un/reinstalling firefox doesn't fix it
[02:13] <Halitech> genezoz, can you boot into safe mode from the live cd?
 i cant remember their ID
[02:13] <homoboy> losha, i have tried vob as well, ffmpeg -i filename.ogg filename.vob, should i do .mpeg2 instead??
[02:13] <samuli> what do you think is the best music player on linux btw?
[02:13] <crackpot> it worked pre-9.10 but since the upgrade it wont let me click "Remember" when firefox asks to save the password to sites
[02:13] <crackpot> i like rythmbox
[02:13] <leftyfb> anyone know what happened to the gnome-terminal's fonts? It seems to be using monospace 10, but it certainly doesn't look like it used to on 8.04, 8.10 or  9.04. It just doesn't look right even though it looks like it's the same settings
[02:13] <kostkon> wolf23, no. is  AlMuathen.jar the name of the jar file you are trying to run?
[02:14] <samuli> I've tried a couple.. amarok, exail, rhythmbox, banshee
[02:14] <genezoz> Halitech: Im using the Live CD now.
[02:14] <wolf23> kostkon:  yes
[02:14] <kostkon> wolf23, hmm ok
[02:14] <Halitech> genezoz, ok and its working fine there?
[02:14] <losha> homoboy: first, I would see if devede will process ogg files itself. Have you tried that?
[02:14] <crackpot> any suggestions as to why firefox won't let me save user/pass for websites?
[02:14] <kisuke> n00bish question; and best channel i can find to ask in, what do i need to compile visual boy advance?
[02:14] <crackpot> (and no i'm not in "private browsing" mode
[02:14] <homoboy> samuli, i say banshee, though some argue rythmbox
[02:14] <genezoz> Halitech: Flash is garbage, but otherwise yes.
[02:14] <kostkon> wolf23, maybe a problem with the file's permissions?
[02:14] <rocky|raccoon> kisuke: apt-get build-dep should give you all the building dependencies for it
[02:14] <crackpot> try to compile it, and see what it says
[02:15] <samuli> homoboy, have you tried anything outside of the repositories?
[02:15] <samuli> banshee is my current favourite also
[02:15] <O__o> best music player is rymthmbox
[02:15] <homoboy> losha, yes i have, but still cannot get that to burn straight to the dvd.
[02:15] <wolf23> kostkon:  so what can i do?
[02:15] <kostkon> wolf23, the possibility that you don't have the perm to run it
[02:15] <Halitech> genezoz, so you install and reboot and thats when you get the black screen? is it showing any drivers in use in Hardware drivers?
[02:15] <O__o> rhythmbox
[02:15] <djbpython> I am having trouble with permissions, I am trying to make a link in nautilus but the option is greyed out
[02:16] <losha> homoboy: Wann revisit the process together and see if it goes better this time?
[02:16] <crackpot> it seems like my cookies are messed up in firefox as well.
[02:16] <djbpython> I have chmod 777 and chown
[02:16] <Halitech> djbpython, is the location you are trying to make the link in outside your home folder?
[02:16] <sun`> im getting "Kernel panic, not syncing (Unable to mount root fs)" error after selecting Ubuntu from the boot manager.
[02:16] <samuli> has any of you tried jukebox-gtk?
[02:16] <djbpython> Halitech, yes
[02:16] <samuli> it looks promising
[02:16] <genezoz> Halitech: No drivers in use. Once I install (doesnt matter if its an update or a clean install) It boots up for the first time and black screen. Can't alt-f3/7 either.
[02:16] <thehungus> trying to set my locale to es_US.UTF-8, system wide. editing /etc/default/locale to contain LANG=... worked fine on my laptop, but on this box the root account is in es_US, as are user accounts but under X user accounts are in en_US still... which is somewhat odd. if I ssh into the box as any user the locale is as expected; es_US. gdm, login screen and so on is also in the desired locale
[02:16] <kostkon> wolf23, er give somethike like: chmod +x yourfile.jar
[02:16] <homoboy> samuli, not really. I have tried armarock, vlc, banshee, rythmbox, etc. and i say rythmbox has the best features.
[02:16] <Halitech> djbpython, then you need to use gksudo nautilus
[02:16] <sun`> im getting "Kernel panic, not syncing (Unable to mount root fs)" error after selecting Ubuntu from the boot manager.
[02:16] <kisuke> rocky|raccoon:
[02:16] <phoenix_> I am looking for help with removing UNR and getting Compiz to work properly again, can any1 help?
[02:17] <kostkon> wolf23, or try to change the perms graphically. right click on the file and then properties and then permissions
[02:17] <Halitech> genezoz, strange ...
[02:17] <genezoz> Halitech: Well...I can't confirm no drivers are in use. How would I check that? I can't get a command prompt unless im in netroot.
[02:17] <djbpython> Halitech, even if I own the folder and its permissions are wide open?
[02:17] <icedwater> kostkon: No luck, the only lines with keyboard in them are referring to which interrupt the keyboard takes :P
[02:17] <homoboy> losha, what exaxtly do you mean
[02:17] <crackpot> no one has any suggestions?
[02:17] <kostkon> icedwater, :(
[02:17] <kisuke> rocky|raccoon: i have it installed from the repos its just missing a menu.. so im going for the source
[02:17] <Halitech> genezoz, I was wondering about in the live session
[02:17] <genezoz> Halitech: Checking
[02:17] <losha> homoboy: I mean lets step through it together & see if we can get it to work...
[02:17] <Halitech> djbpython, are you sure the permissions are set that way?
[02:18] <homoboy> losha, i c. sure, if you have the time lol
[02:18] <genezoz> Halitech: No proprietary drivers are in use
[02:18] <AntiStrange> I have two different audio outputs. Rear and front. Is there a way that I can mute one and not the other?
[02:18] <icedwater> kostkon: Thanks, but I'll come back and ask again :)
[02:18] <djbpython> drwxrwxrwx
[02:18] <Halitech> genezoz, ok so shouldn't be loading anything at boot either
[02:18] <icedwater> 3.15am, whee.
[02:18] <cristim> hello, say I'm trying to build a package for intrepid, and post it to my PPA. is it enough to set in the latest changelog entry intrepid instead of karmic?
[02:18] <rocky|raccoon> kisuke: right...well apt-get build-dep packagename grabs the "development" packages for each of packagename's dependencies for example, so if you wanted to get all of the compile dependencies for visualboyadvance you could do it that way
[02:18] <kostkon> icedwater, ok :)
[02:18] <thehungus> anyone? what might change the locale variables post login to X?'
[02:18] <losha> homoboy: won't take long. I won't stay for the processing. Ok. let's start. Bring up devede and select video dvd
[02:18] <djbpython> Halitech, drwxrwxrwx
[02:19]  * kisuke facepalms
[02:19] <mb_again_> !locale
[02:19] <homoboy> losha, ok.
[02:19] <icedwater> !keyboard
[02:19] <crackpot> okay how can i completely remove any traces of firefox?
[02:19] <losha> homoboy: select properties under Titles and give it whatever title you want
[02:19] <icedwater> Ciao folks :)
[02:19] <genezoz> Halitech: -13-generic works. -14-generic does not Is there a way to install 9.10 and roll back the kernel?
[02:19] <freaky[t]> is there any desktop search utility for ubuntu (gnome)?
[02:20] <Shwack> yeah but it doesnt fucken work
[02:20] <ugarit> how does one add ubuntu cloud computing for 9.10 desktop?
[02:20] <xangua> a lot freaky[t]
[02:20] <Shwack> it only finds the file names of the folder you're in - ...pretty useless
[02:20] <Halitech> genezoz, I would hazard a guess that you can but I'm not sure how
[02:20] <freaky[t]> xangua, which one is the best (or, the default one)?
[02:20] <homoboy> losha, done.
[02:20] <freaky[t]> xangua, and where do i configure it?
[02:20] <freaky[t]> !desktopsearch
[02:21] <djbpython> why do i not understand permissions, if the folder is rwxrwxrwx I should be able to paste things in to it right?
[02:21] <xangua> there is the deskbar applet that comes already installed freaky[t] , is easy to use
[02:21] <freaky[t]> xangua, yea but usually some daemon scans for files etc.?
[02:21] <genezoz> Halitech: I haven't been able to find that...I tried apt-cache search kernel-image in netroot, but it doesnt pull anything up. I assume because Im already using -14-generic
[02:21] <xangua> it uses beagle i think
[02:21] <losha> homoboy: now go to files panel, select add, and choose one of the ogg files. Further down, tick ntsc or pal
[02:21] <epinky> djbpython: i don't understand anything
[02:22] <ugarit> how does one add ubuntu cloud computing for 9.10 desktop?
[02:22] <samuli> ugarit, if you already have already signed up in launchpad/ubuntu forums you just launch the ubuntu one application and fill in your details
[02:22] <samuli> then add the computer on the netpage
[02:22] <Halitech> genezoz, could be, I'm not a kernel expert so not sure
[02:22] <mb_again_> djbpython: if that is truly the permission, then permission is not the issue. make sure you are looking at a real folder, the right folder etc
[02:22] <qjqqyy> a
[02:23] <genezoz> Halitech: Thanks anyway. =)
[02:23] <djbpython> mb_again_, I don't understand, the "real" folder, I'm looking at it right here
[02:23] <agus> help me, how to install ubuntu from usb drive
[02:23] <homoboy> losha, ok.
[02:23] <phoenix_> I am looking for help with removing UNR and getting Compiz to work properly again, can any1 help? My windows are maximizing on open
[02:23] <mb_again_> djbpython: symlinks show those permissions as well
[02:23] <bobbbb> hey there! anybody familiar with sound issues? i had my sound working for months and now i selected "always on top" in vlc video playback options. everything crashed, i had trouble gettin back into linux and now theres no sound at all. alsamixer and asoundconf-gtk are configured... can you help? thanks
[02:23] <losha> homoboy: now repeat for the second ogg file
[02:24] <Shwack> i have question.. I use the search feature in ubuntu and it only finds the files I search for in the EXACT folder.    Lets say I have a folder called Misc on my desktop - if I were to run a search in Desktop it wouldn't search taht folder..it would only search desktop -waht's the deal with that?
[02:24] <BoriTori> what does the outputs of command "time" mean ?
[02:24] <BoriTori> real    0m0.413s user    0m0.392s sys     0m0.052s
[02:24] <BoriTori> what do those 3 things mean
[02:24] <homoboy> losha, ok.
[02:24] <xangua> agus: there is an utility for create a usb in ubuntu
[02:24] <BoriTori> is "real" how long it took ?
[02:24] <qjqqyy> bobbbb: i also had sound issues, now ALSA OSS and pulseaudio all does not work, i use a ALC888 card
[02:24] <mb_again_> djbpython: can you put anything in the folder another way? maybe try a terminal window and 'touch testfile'
[02:24] <epinky> agus: unetbootin ?
[02:24] <samuli> shwack, are you sure you have "search for files in subfolders" or similar checked?
[02:24] <Anacranom> anyone here know the dd command? i just tried  dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/var/ftp/FF4SS.iso  and its been quite a while, no errors but also no info...?
[02:25] <losha> homoboy: so now back on the main window, you should see a bunch of stuff under 'file info' and the 'disk usage' bar should show some percentage. Media size should be 4.7GB dvd
[02:25] <djbpython> mb_again_, yes in the terminal I am able to touch a file in the directory
[02:25] <agus> I have succeeded boot but when detect and mount cdrom step I got problem
[02:25] <bobbbb> aw, ok. i just chose the correct "alsa device name" and now its perfecty working. thanks anyway..
[02:25] <homoboy> losha, it is, and usage is at 130% for some reason.
[02:25] <rocky|raccoon> there's a lot of issues with intel hda-based onboard chipsets...i've had to set a lot of programs output to oss to get them to work with pulseaudio well =<
[02:25] <phoenix_> I am looking for help with removing UNR and getting Compiz to work properly again, can any1 help?
[02:25] <djbpython> I am missing something fundamental about permissions
[02:25] <disappearedng_> Hey anyone having trouble copying in vim (using "+y) in the new 9.10?
[02:26] <Shwack> samuli: i checked for an option to search subfolders and I dont see any. To get to this search I add the search plugin via right clicking a panel and going to "Add to Panel"  I add the little magnifying glass search tool.  It is this tool that is faulty.  If I run a search in an actual window the search works as intended.
[02:26] <losha> Anacranom: no messages usually means it went ok.
[02:26] <eee> HALLO ICH HABE KACKE AN DER MUSCHI
[02:26] <epinky> !de | eee
[02:26] <smwn> does anyone here use a dwa 160 usb wifi thing with ubuntu
[02:26] <AntiStrange> how do I get the pulseaudio tray icon to display on the panel? I remember having it in an earlier installation of Ubuntu I had, but now I can't seem to find it.
[02:27] <Anacranom> losha, yes, but its still working,,, no ~$ prompt,,,
[02:27] <zetheroo> Want to view the first Ubuntu 9.10 Survey results? ... http://techiesrus.wordpress.com/ubuntu-9-10-survey-results/
[02:27] <losha> homoboy: I think that means it can't compress the files to fit. Go back into files->properties and adjust the video rate down by about 30%
[02:27] <kostkon> AntiStrange, do you mean the pulseaudio device chooser utility?
[02:27] <mb_again_> djppython: i take it you are using some gui tool to paste into the folder. Can you remove the testfile you just created with the gui? can you paste anything into another folers? if so, who is the owner of the gui created file?
[02:27] <losha> Anacranom: well it takes a while to copy 4.7GB
[02:27] <AntiStrange> kostkon: perhaps, how do I access it?
[02:27] <Shwack> samuli:  Update, I removed and added the search utility and its working ?
[02:27] <kostkon> AntiStrange, do you mean the icon that displays a mini jack?
[02:27] <evilaim> hopefully this will work
[02:27] <phoenix_> I am looking for help with getting Compiz to work properly again, can any1 help?
[02:27] <Shwack> samuli: i'm very confused
[02:28] <AntiStrange> kostkon: yes, i think that was the one
[02:28] <samuli> Shwack, I just tried, it works for me "out-of-the-box" like that too
[02:28] <homoboy> losha, i just pressed adjust disc usage and it went down to 99%, so whats the next step?
[02:28] <kindofabuzz> is there no GDM tool anymore to change the GDM?
[02:28] <losha> Anacranom: open a second terminal and make sure the iso file is getting larger. Also, is the light on the dvd blinking?
[02:28] <disappearedng_> how do I copy from different windows in vim? "+y doesn't work after 9.10 can someone confirm with me?
[02:28] <Anacranom> losha, yes, but 2+ hours? i could have watched the movie by now lol
[02:28] <kostkon> AntiStrange, thes, just install the "pulseaudio device chooser" package using synaptic
[02:28] <Shwack> samuli: I think it is a specific file it wont find
[02:29] <losha> homoboy: under "Action", select 'Create Disk Structure'
[02:29] <Shwack> samuli: give me a moment please to test searching for various files
[02:29] <AntiStrange> kostkon: ok thanks
[02:29] <Halitech> Anacranom, depends on your system, my old P4 used to take 8 hours, my new system takes an hour
[02:29] <Anacranom> losha, the led on the dvd is solid-on, will do the other 2nd tab/term now...
[02:29] <homoboy> losha, done.
[02:29] <geirha> disappearedng_: Why not just use gvim?
[02:29] <losha> homoboy: now press forward and choose a directory with at least 5GB free for the files devede is going to create
[02:30] <Pikachu> once again, just to make sure
[02:30] <homoboy> losha, ok. it is creating.
[02:30] <losha> Anacranom: it may be stuck trying to read a bad sector on the disk. Is it a video
[02:30] <Anacranom> losha, yes, a dvd
[02:30] <G226> Hey everyone, hope your night is going good
[02:31] <samuli> Shwack, the search stuff probably uses that indexing thingy that I can't remember what it was and as such doesn't update in real-time.
[02:31] <losha> homoboy: ok, open a new terminal and go look at the directory you told devede to put the results in. You should see intermediate files being created there.
[02:31] <samuli> that's how it manages to be so fast
[02:31] <Guest91015> Grub bootloader is installed with Ubuntu, correct? I want to make sure before I hit install.
[02:31] <homoboy> losha, it is.
[02:32] <Anacranom> losha, i just restarted it, i'm worried that i dont have enough space in my /tmp which is why i asked how to flush that first...
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> is there no GDM tool anymore to change the GDM?
[02:32] <snoopy> nice
[02:32] <geirha> Guest91015: Yes, unless you specifically tells it not to
[02:32] <KnifeySpooney> Guest91015: Yes, it should be installed unless you marked NOT to install a bootloader in the advanced options.
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> !gdm
[02:32] <G226> Question: I'm trying to play a wmv file, I've gotten gstream, vlc, and tried installing win32codecs via "sudo aptitude install w32codecs" but the video still doesn't play, only audio players? When opened with vlc it says "VLC does not support the video format WVP2"
[02:32] <Guest91015> all right thanks.
[02:32] <snoopy> how do you connect to a port through ubuntu?
[02:32] <samuli> Guest91015, yes it is, grub2 to be spesific
[02:33] <Anacranom> snoopy, elaborate
[02:33] <KnifeySpooney> Does anybody have any good tips for speeding up boot time? My bootchart log doesn't look so good and there's a fairly large empty space: http://i37.tinypic.com/v5dchz.png
[02:33] <nitrus^1> is it possible to get the build config options used on a package?
[02:33] <snoopy> well like, connect to a port... you know?
[02:34] <losha> homoboy: after a while (could take hours) you will end up with 2 directories, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. These are suitable for burning to a blank dvd using k3b. You must select 'video dvd' when k3b asks you what kind of dvd to burn. ok?
[02:34] <Shwack> samuli:  I can search for files and folders fine and it works. However, when I search for the file murmur.ini   it does nto work.  i can locate this file on my own and I know for a fact it exists.  - On that subject.  Can anybody tell me which file in which exact directory I need to edit to change the port my mumble-server listens on? I edit mumble-server.ini and change the port but apparently the server isn't reading this file when it starts because the ch
[02:34] <Shwack> ange does nothing.
[02:34] <KnifeySpooney> !imagebin
[02:34] <kisuke> snoopy: ip.address:port
[02:34] <homoboy> losha, thanks alot, guess i just did not know how to use devede very well.
[02:34] <Anacranom> losha, yes, the dir that i am dd'ing that to is getting smaller space available via df -h every 1-2 minutes
[02:34] <Halitech> losha, homoboy mine creates an actual iso file
[02:35] <rocky|raccoon> ...interesting?
[02:35] <astechgeek> that was funny
[02:35] <Shwack> what was that about
[02:36] <kisuke> ...
[02:36] <losha> Halitech: homoboy: we chose to create 'disk structure'. If we had chosen 'create an iso' it would make us an iso. I did it this way so homoboy can look at the files that will comprise his dvd
[02:36] <James_N> right
[02:36] <rocky|raccoon> Shwack: probably another crazy person that got lost on the library computers at the mental, there's a lot of them
[02:36] <|DarkMasterHalo|> He was basically saying that americans are racist ... :P
[02:36] <astechgeek> and that 70% of the prison population more than likely deserve to be in prison
[02:36] <G226> Is there any way to play WVP2 wmv files?
[02:37] <homoboy> losha,which way is faster?
[02:37] <Morphias> does anyone know what Intel Drivers ubuntu 9.10 uses?
[02:37] <Halitech> losha, ok, missed that step you gave him
[02:37] <qjqqyy> hi all just to tell u ppl that the OSS sound driver for xine works for my ALC888
[02:37] <Halitech> homoboy, doing the directories will be slightly faster as it won't create the iso
[02:37] <kisuke> G226: go into synaptic and search WVP2
[02:38] <Shwack> So does anybody know which file to edit to change the port mumble-server listens on?
[02:38] <homoboy> halitech, well i gtg. thanks guys. especially you, losha!
[02:38] <losha> homoboy: not much in it. Conversion is what takes up all the time. iso or 'disk structure' are basically just two different ways of storing the files on disk.
[02:38] <Anacranom> losha, ahhh finally- dd: reading `/dev/sr0': Input/output error
[02:39] <G226> kisuke: trying that now thanks
[02:39] <indiantonic> .net
[02:39] <sigmab3ta> hey guys, just did an upgrade to karmic, and i picked the default option of having it use my old grub menu.lst (dual booting windows) but unfortunately that means now I only have kernel 2.6.28 to boot from. can i have grub set itself up to use the newer kernels installed?
[02:40] <G226> kisuke: nothing came up for that search
[02:40] <losha> Anacranom: that's why it took so long, trying to re-read sectors before it gave up. Try cleaning the disk first with windex. After that, use vobcopy or dvdbackup, as they are a bit more forgiving of disk errors.
[02:41] <crazy2k> Does someone know how to make items appear sequentially in OO.o Presentation?
[02:41] <thehungus> ok, still having locale issues. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf did not help. have looked at numerous ubuntu specific locale "howto" pages without any success. problem again; locale is set correctly but under X the en_US locale persists for user accounts. on virtual terminals or on ssh the locale is set to es_ES as expected
[02:41] <woodyjlw> ok well I take back a few of the bad stuff I said about 9.04..... it works a lot better with all the updates that are out now
[02:41] <thehungus> seems something post gdm is messing overriding the LC_* variables :(
[02:42] <kisuke> G226: gonna google it one min
[02:43] <G226> kisuke: Thanks, I tried googling it too but didn't really come up with much except install win32 codecs which I tried from that aptitude command, but perhaps thats the wrong way :<
[02:44] <kisuke> G226: np i have put the fear of Kendrick into google it will find what i want
[02:44]  * kisuke laughs creepily
[02:44] <geirha> sigmab3ta: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/470490
[02:44] <randomusr> wow, I just upgraded to 9.10 and the system is much cleaner, and the sound works
[02:44] <randomusr> friggen sweet
[02:45] <sigmab3ta> geirha: thanks
[02:45] <woodyjlw> question. I dont want to install compiz or any other program to manage my themes but I notice that on the appearance there is also an option for install so where do I download more themes that can be installed under appearance in ubuntu?
[02:45] <kostkon> randomusr, nice
[02:45] <G226> kisuke: D: I hope so :P I've even tried installing mplayer and such that some searches suggested doing :<
[02:45] <randomusr> kostkon, upgrade actually fixed made my sound better
[02:45] <user1_> Can we get RSS feed of nature magazine somewhere from ubuntu
[02:45] <fireball> thanks all, sorted for now i think?
[02:46] <kisuke> G226: FAIL use VLC "sudo apt-get vlc"
[02:46] <Anacranom> woodyjlw, compiz is enabled by default, so it is unless you disable it
[02:46] <kostkon> randomusr, yeah, newer alsa and pulse
[02:46] <kisuke> G226: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:46] <randomusr> omg
[02:46] <kostkon> randomusr, you just saw the new sound prefs? :P
[02:46] <randomusr> my Proprietary nvidia driver didn't cause problems with x
[02:46] <G226> kisuke: vlc is already installed and it spits out the cannot play WVP2 error
[02:46] <nicle> woodyjlw: go to http://gnome-look.org/
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> woodyjlw, for all your gnome themeing needs http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:46] <kostkon> randomusr, ah
[02:46] <randomusr> I LOVE UBUNTU
[02:47] <woodyjlw> cool ok
[02:47] <randomusr> ok, I'm done now
[02:47] <randomusr> ya'll have a good night
[02:47] <kostkon> randomusr, gn
[02:47] <seidos> gn randomusr
[02:47] <kisuke> G226: try "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[02:48] <Azriel666> hy all
[02:48] <kisuke> G226: wait i missed a step one min
[02:49] <G226> kisuke: too late :P
[02:49] <kisuke> nedd a repo
[02:49] <kisuke> G226: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[02:49] <Azriel666> guys is here some gm-s from ingame?
[02:49] <G226> kisuke: It seems to have installed, I might have already added the repo
[02:50] <kisuke> G226: does it work
[02:50] <G226> kisuke: Okay, I just did that, it still spits out the WVP2 playback error, even after installing w32codecs + medibuntu
[02:51]  * kisuke swears in a maner that must be bleeped out in an r-rated movie
[02:51] <G226> :P
[02:52] <G226> Yeh I know kisuke, its why I came here for help because im at a loss
[02:53] <KnifeySpooney> Does anybody have any good tips for speeding up boot time? My bootchart log doesn't look so good and there's a fairly large empty space: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=71270
[02:53] <Xcell> get more ram and clock that bufer
[02:54] <Xcell> buger
[02:54] <xtiger> hi
[02:54] <smwn>  does anyone here use a dwa 160 usb wifi thing with ubuntu
[02:54] <xtiger> quick question: how can the data on an unpartitioned drive be viewed?
[02:55] <nicle> KnifeySpooney: 1. apt-get install rcconf, which can disable the useless services 2. go to system->preferences->startup appliaction, disable teh useless services on gnome startup