[06:42] <duanedesign> AlanBell: ping
[06:43] <nigelb> duanedesign: hey, ping
[06:43] <nigelb> duanedesign: Did I tell you about the project lightning talk at UDW? Wanna talk about clicompanion for 5 mins?
[06:44] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[06:44] <duanedesign> nigelb: when is UDW?
[06:48] <nigelb> duanedesign: feb 28 to 4th
[07:17] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:20] <nigelb> Mornign AlanBell
[07:20] <nigelb> I played around with gcal over python-gdata this past weekend.
[07:21] <nigelb> I conclude that I hate xml :-P
[07:27] <dholbach> good morning
[07:30] <nigelb> dholbach: morning
[07:30] <nigelb> dholbach: I hacked something together for you for the patch pilot cal.  Will email tonight
[07:32] <dholbach> great - thanks a lot nigelb
[07:32] <nigelb> dholbach: ah, I just realized you need to invite people to the event.  Will add that in.
[07:49] <kim0> Morning folks o/
[07:51] <dholbach> hey kim0, صباح الخير
[07:51] <kim0> dholbach: hey :)
[07:55] <nigelb> Morning kim0 :)
[07:56] <kim0> nigelb: morning :)
[07:59] <nigelb> Hey ara
[08:00] <kim0> ara: morning
[09:37] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:42] <kim0> czajkowski: morning
[09:42] <czajkowski> hey hey kim0
[09:42] <czajkowski> how are you doing ~?
[09:42] <kim0> czajkowski: enjoying a better Egypt :)
[09:42] <czajkowski> excellent good to hear
[09:42] <czajkowski> no more fighting goig on over there?
[09:43] <kim0> czajkowski: nope .. the guy stepped down .. everything is cool now
[09:44] <czajkowski> :D
[09:44] <czajkowski> excellent
[09:45] <kim0> \o/
[09:59] <kim0> Any LP guru around? I'm pushing code to "https://code.launchpad.net/~kim0/+junk/ec2-ebs-migrate-Instance" which is a branch from "https://code.launchpad.net/~abd4lla/+junk/ec2-ebs-migrate" However I am not getting "propose for merging" link, any idea why ?
[09:59] <czajkowski> kim0: ask in #launchpad
[09:59] <czajkowski> they are the nicest friendlies admins!
[09:59] <czajkowski> kim0: I usually poke mrevell and he tells me who to ask
[09:59] <kim0> hehee
[10:00] <kim0> ok trying
[10:00] <nigelb> kim0: because its in junk (I think)
[10:00] <daker> +1
[10:01] <nigelb> generally you get to merge onto a project, not on your +junk
[10:02] <kim0> hmm .. might be
[10:02] <kim0> ok, I'll try to get it upgraded
[10:03] <kim0> nigelb: thanks
[10:03] <nigelb> np :)
[10:04] <duanedesign> morning all
[14:01] <dholbach> kim0, if anyone answers to "ubuntucloud: #Ubuntu Developer Week description, mark your calendar. Want to contrib a talk? ping me http://bit.ly/hf7TTT" - can you tell me that the only people we still look for is for lightning talks about their projects?
[14:02] <dholbach> kim0, and thanks for helping out recruiting :)
[14:02] <kim0> dholbach: yeah I did notice and was planning on that, or sharing my session
[14:02] <dholbach> cool
[14:29] <akgraner> jcastro isn't gnome having some kinda day tomorrow?
[14:30] <akgraner> and if you know what I am talking about do  you have a link for it - I know I saw something about it but now I can't find it and I wanted to mention it today :-(  bookmarking fail
[14:31] <czajkowski> akgraner: howdy doody
[14:31] <akgraner> czajkowski, hey!
[14:31] <czajkowski> akgraner: #hows #you #these #days :)
[14:31] <jussi> akgraner: picture ;)
[14:32] <akgraner> loved the pics you posted :-)  you look happy happy
[14:32] <akgraner> good
[14:32] <czajkowski> akgraner: thanks, got rather spoilt this weekend/today
[14:32] <czajkowski> I spent this morning looking very red faced at my laptop when they arrived
[14:33] <akgraner> :-)  yay!
[14:33] <akgraner> there is nothing wrong be being a little spoiled
[14:33] <czajkowski> aye
[14:33] <czajkowski> this is rather new :)
[14:33] <akgraner> not like sour milk spoiled though more like queen for a day spoiled
[14:34] <czajkowski> yup
[14:34] <czajkowski> :)
[14:34] <czajkowski> getting flowers to work was very unexpected after the weekend tbh. so I was rather shocked
[14:34] <akgraner> awww enjoy it...
[14:34] <czajkowski> aye
[14:35] <czajkowski> yummy  choccies :D
[14:35] <czajkowski> all white chocolate :D
[14:35] <akgraner> that's great!
[14:35] <akgraner> I know you are happy..
[14:35] <czajkowski> :)
[15:06] <jcastro> cjohnston: can you confirm this pls? https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/718794
[15:06] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 718794 in summit "Sponsorship field character limit needs to be increased" [Undecided,New]
[15:06] <czajkowski> jcastro: cjohnston is driving atm
[15:07] <czajkowski> I think...
[15:07] <jcastro> ah
[15:07] <czajkowski> good idea though
[15:07] <czajkowski> I end up having no puncutuation and abrivating words
[15:08] <Pendulum> and rewriting many, many, many times
[15:08] <czajkowski> I am swiftly losing patience having to deal with someone who seems to think I am their personal pa
[15:08] <czajkowski> he's going to get such a swift kick up the arse
[15:08] <Pendulum> oh dear
[15:09] <Pici> :O
[15:09] <czajkowski> 23 mails from him so far since saturday
[15:09] <czajkowski> >:(
[15:10] <Pendulum> czajkowski: wtf??? does he not understand the concept of weekend?
[15:10] <Pendulum> is this the same guy as who made you do work on your day off?
[15:13] <czajkowski> Pendulum: nope different group
[15:13] <czajkowski> he's a bit special and I'm tire dof being nice, so he;s going to get such an almighty ear ful
[15:59] <jcastro> Technovi1ing: forum destructions/revival is today right?
[16:00] <maco> yes
[16:00] <dpm> dholbach, https://loco.ubuntu.com/ gives me an "untrusted connection" page. Just pointing it out in case it's not a known issue
[16:01] <maco> jcastro: no wait im failing to read planet ubuntu properly. looks like his blog post was on the 10th...
[16:02] <maco> jcastro: no wait go back. he just posted on the 10th without saying a date -_-  .... yes today
[16:02] <czajkowski> dpm: ahhh
[16:03] <jcastro> maco: wait, it say 0900 UTC
[16:03] <jcastro> so it's already happened?
[16:03] <maco> guess so
[16:03] <jono> kim0, about ready?
[16:03] <maco> um... why are colin pruitt's blog's permalinks on planet all pointing back at planet?
[16:04] <kim0> jono: yep
[16:04] <jono> kim0, I will be ready in a min
[16:11] <popey> maco: known bug with wordpress.com hosted blogs
[16:11] <maco> oh
[16:13] <mhall119> morning
[16:15] <mhall119> dpm: are you still getting an error on loco.u.c?
[16:17] <dpm> mhall119, ah it looks fine now :)
[16:17] <mhall119> dpm: I've got the error now
[16:17] <mhall119> wrong host name in the ssl cert
[16:18] <dpm> mhall119, ah, I might have accepted the exception in FF? In any case, opening it in chromium did not give me any error
[16:18] <mhall119> hmmm...
[16:18] <mhall119> maybe ff and chomium share cert data
[16:19] <mhall119> are you using https or http?
[16:20] <Technovi1ing> jcastro: should be finished, have not heard from IS though
[16:20] <nigelb> we're killing the forums?
[16:21] <nigelb> oh, we're resurrecting it back too.
[16:21] <mhall119> it's a miracle!
[16:21] <maco> nigelb: the forums are finally getting hardware capable of handling their load
[16:21] <mhall119> how about the wiki?
[16:21] <nigelb> yes, the wiki has been throwing server erros at me for a longish time
[16:21] <Technoviking> We are rebuilding it, making it better, stronger, faster, the Six-Milion Dollars Forums
[16:21] <maco> mhall119: iirc, that one's a software problem, not a hardware problem
[16:22] <maco> like, the wiki software can handle X number of pages being in existence. we're nearing X rapidly
[16:22] <nigelb> mhall119: we should team up with AlanBell and hold Ng hostage until the wiki is fixed :P
[16:22] <popey> +1
[16:22] <AlanBell> +1
[16:22] <mhall119> Ng just did an emergency push of LD for me, so he's my friend now
[16:22] <nigelb> maco: No.  There is another thing.  AlanBell wrote a mail about it.
[16:23] <popey> X=32768 btw
[16:23] <popey> iirc
[16:23] <AlanBell> 15:52 < AlanBell> any news on the 1.9 upgrade?
[16:23] <AlanBell> 15:55 < newz2000> AlanBell: no, sorry, none
[16:23] <AlanBell> 15:55 < newz2000> but there is a great deal of frustration over the current situation
[16:23] <AlanBell> 15:56 < AlanBell> any idea what the holdup is?
[16:23] <AlanBell> 15:56 < newz2000> just the sheer size of the problem
[16:23] <mhall119> ah, moin using small ints for ids or something?
[16:24] <nigelb> mhall119: does sound like it
[16:24] <nigelb> AlanBell: I wish community could help.
[16:24] <czajkowski> Ng friggin rocks
[16:24]  * mhall119 would donate an extra bit
[16:24] <AlanBell> I have offered
[16:24] <czajkowski> very helpful when I have loco team issues with RT
[16:25] <AlanBell> maco: https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-November/001084.html
[16:27] <maco> AlanBell: alrighty then
[16:28] <nigelb> There was one mail where AlanBell said "This is me deciding that this needs to be fixed and taking a stance..."
[16:28] <nigelb> ^^ or something of that sort
[16:28] <AlanBell> that was the one, and I didn't quite put it like that
[16:28] <AlanBell> although czajkowski did tell me I was a bit too grumpy :)
[16:28] <nigelb> "so this is me, starting to push for it, right now" --> that bit :D
[16:29] <dpm> mhall119, ah, that was it, I hadn't realised I was using http. Using https I can see the warning
[16:29] <mhall119> dpm: checked with the sysadmins, loco.u.c never supported https, the cert is there for other apps on the same host
[16:31] <dpm> mhall119, ok, no worries, as I said, just pointing it out in case it wasn't something known. Thanks!
[16:32] <mhall119> thanks
[16:34] <czajkowski> AlanBell: I'm sur eI told you were cranky, and it was over  mail not sure it was that one and you did see how it cud be read as cranky :)
[16:38] <AlanBell> czajkowski: totally agree, and please continue to tell me if I am overly cranky
[16:43]  * czajkowski hugs AlanBell
[16:45]  * AlanBell hugs czajkowski
[16:46] <czajkowski> :)
[16:49] <jcastro> hey dholbach
[16:52] <nigelb> jono: poke, hey, any luck moving the Q and A out of the way of UDW?
[16:52] <jono> nigelb, I will cancel it next week
[16:52] <jono> we will move David to another time
[16:53] <nigelb> jono: thanks.  I'm holding off on a blog post so I can announce it after its fixed
[16:53] <jono> nigelb, yeah, let me fix that now
[16:54] <nigelb> jono: thanks
[16:55] <jono> done
[16:58] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[16:58] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:58] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:58] <jcastro> dholbach: nm I sent you a mail instead
[16:59] <dholbach> jcastro, I'll have look in a sec
[16:59] <nigelb> jono: thank you!
[16:59] <jono> nigelb, no worries!
[17:00] <dholbach> jcastro, I don't mind at all
[17:02] <jono> thanks dholbach!
[17:10] <popey> AlanBell: what is the "current status" of the wiki fixing?
[17:11] <AlanBell> I suspect someone may have attempted a dummy run of an upgrade in a VM. I don't know who, or whether they did, or whether they failed.
[17:11] <AlanBell> I am unaware of any future actions planned
[17:16] <czajkowski> I ma having a victor meldrew day!
[17:16] <popey> I don't believe it.
[17:18] <jono> JFo, any chance you could put some love into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/713493 - it is causing a nightmare for my morning calls
[17:18] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 713493 in linux "Microphone volume very low and sounds distorted" [Undecided,New]
[17:18] <czajkowski> popey: yup sums it up
[17:18] <JFo> jono, let me have a look at it
[17:18] <jono> JFo, thanks, buddy
[17:19] <JFo> who loves ya baby? ;-)
[17:19] <jono> JFo does!
[17:19] <jcastro> WONTFIX
[17:19] <JFo> yes!
[17:19] <jcastro> hahaha, watch
[17:19] <jono> :-)
[17:19] <jono> lol
[17:26] <dholbach> jono, skype? mumble?
[17:28] <jono> dholbach, lets do skype
[17:28] <dholbach> sure
[17:30] <JFo> jono, check it out: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2268089&l=162e9a4767&id=1209840162
[17:31] <jono> JFo, nice!
[17:31] <jono> dholbach, I don't see you on Skype
[17:31] <dholbach> I'm logged in
[17:31] <JFo> it is huge
[17:31] <jono> can you call me?
[17:31] <dholbach> yes, hang on
[17:31] <JFo> has green eyes
[17:32] <dholbach> ah, here we go
[18:02] <dholbach> ok my friends - I call it a day - see you tomorrow! :)
[18:02] <dholbach> hugs to you all
[18:02] <JFo> see you dholbach
[18:02] <dholbach> bye JFo
[18:54] <jono> thanks JFo for focusing on that bug
[18:54] <jono> I fixed it
[18:55] <JFo> excellent!
[18:55] <jono> jcastro, nearly ready?
[18:55] <jono> jcastro, rebooting first, one sec
[18:55] <jcastro> yep, just ring it up
[18:55] <jcastro> k
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, signing into SKype
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, ready when you are
[20:01] <jcastro> jono: you've got mail
[20:01] <jcastro> jono: can you send me the notes please?
[20:01] <jono> thanks, jcastro
[20:02] <jono> will do, eating lunch, will send them soon
[20:02] <jcastro> ah ok, no worries
[20:07] <jono> jcastro, sent
[20:07] <jono> jcastro, dont see the mail
[20:09] <jcastro> still don't see it?
[20:09] <jcastro> second mail sent
[20:10] <jono> thanks for the stats, jcastro
[20:11] <jcastro> ooh, nice lyrical choice
[20:11] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[20:11] <jono> seemed apt :-
[20:11] <jono> )
[20:12] <jcastro> jono: oh hey I proposed 3k character limit
[20:12] <jcastro> is that fine?
[20:12] <jono> jcastro, sounds good to me
[20:12] <jcastro> I figured if it's too long then it becomes bore city
[20:12] <jono> :-)
[20:24] <jcastro> jono: did you get the second one too? UDS one?
[20:25] <jcastro> er, the sponsorship one
[20:25] <jono> jcastro, yup
[20:25] <jono> thanks!
[21:11] <czajkowski> Pendulum: PING!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:25] <cjohnston> jcastro: your referencing "Tell us about yourself and your work within the Ubuntu community" correct?
[21:26] <jcastro> yeah
[21:26] <cjohnston> ok
[21:33] <maco> cjohnston: i mentioned how many rewrites some people do trying to get under the 1K char limit and jono balked, so yay it got raised
[21:33] <cjohnston> lol
[21:33] <cjohnston> well.. hopefully itll be released prior to sponsorships
[21:34] <czajkowski> maco: he's rather good at listening to people and getting things fixed. :)
[21:34] <czajkowski> good thing he's good at his job :)
[21:35] <cjohnston> good thing you didnt say fixing things :-P
[21:35] <cjohnston> kidding jcastro
[21:36] <jcastro> heh
[21:36] <jcastro> cjohnston: ok so all we need to do after you commit is bug Daviey?
[21:36] <cjohnston> jcastro: ya.. i sent in an rt.. so whoever does it first
[21:37] <jcastro> can you fwd me the rt pls?
[21:37] <czajkowski> hmm I am all chocolated out
[21:37] <czajkowski> no more sugar
[21:38] <cjohnston><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:38] <jcastro> jorge@
[21:39] <jcastro> I think jcastro works too actually
[21:39] <cjohnston> sent
[21:39] <czajkowski> cjohnston: could you tell hope she rocks please :)
[21:40] <jcastro> cjohnston: I need to wait for it to be merged before forging ahead with this ticket right?
[21:40] <cjohnston> yessir
[21:40] <cjohnston> there might be an issue with the DB failing.. looking into it more
[21:40] <cjohnston> currently though pushing the rt would remove the sponsorship app
[21:44] <jcastro> k
[22:38] <cjohnston> czajkowski: she saved your number
[22:39] <Pendulum> cjohnston: haha
[22:41] <cjohnston> new picds of kids are on fb
[22:42] <Pendulum> I saw :)
[22:42] <cjohnston> in the last 5  min?
[22:42] <cjohnston> czajkowski: ^


[01:32] <micahg> bjsnider: thanks for the merge requests, could you repropose against the branches without .daily in them?
[01:52] <bjsnider> micahg, done
[01:53] <bjsnider> is there anything i can do about the issue of adding precise?
[01:53] <micahg> bjsnider: chrisccoulson has to do that
[01:53] <micahg> I think he was waiting for the builds to pass, so since he fixed trunk, I'm guessing he might have enabled it
[01:53] <micahg> bjsnider: and thanks, I"ll look at the branches in a bit
[01:54] <bjsnider> i ran a stable pbuilder build and it failed after the fix, but for reasons that don't make sense, so i'm thinking it's just my pbuilder environment
[01:55] <bjsnider> stable branch i mean
[01:55] <micahg> heh, I have to look at stable later anyways since Chromium released and I need to get it working on Lucid-Precise
[01:55] <micahg> or rather Chrome releases
[01:55] <micahg> *released
[01:55] <micahg> what error did you get
[01:56] <bjsnider> you need to get chrome working?
[01:56] <micahg> no, chromium
[01:56] <bjsnider> http://pastebin.com/B0a6WUgC
[01:56] <bjsnider> that's teh build failure
[01:56] <micahg> but there's no upstream Chromium releases, only Chrome
[01:58] <micahg> well, it could mean we're missing a build dep or something
[01:58] <micahg> or just a bug in that file
[01:59] <bjsnider> http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/build_nacl_irt.py?r1=101659&r2=106982
[01:59] <bjsnider> that suggests irt.nexe is missing
[02:00] <bjsnider> but get-orig-source should have pulled that in
[02:00] <bjsnider> i checked the tarball and it isn't there
[02:00] <bjsnider> but the builds succeeded even after that commit, so i think this is just a quirk of my system
[02:01] <bjsnider> i think if the ppa build fails that's the time to worry about it
[02:01] <micahg> I have native client disabled on stable
[02:01] <micahg> it was breaking the build before
[02:01] <bjsnider> ok
[03:41] <chrisccoulson> grrrr, that stupid kde patch again
[03:41] <chrisccoulson> i enable it for a single day and it's already broken
[03:42] <chrisccoulson> oh well, at least it didn't break the precise builds :)
[04:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: speaking of precise, can you enable it for chromium when you get a chance?
[04:13] <micahg> bjsnider: in the future, can you branch from the non-daily branches as well?
[04:13]  * micahg will manually merge the patches this time
[04:13] <micahg> unless you're still around
[04:13] <bjsnider> sure i can
[04:13] <micahg> bjsnider: ok, you want to fix now or next time?
[04:14] <bjsnider> next time
[04:14] <micahg> ok
[04:14] <micahg> and please also add the new snapshot commit before the changes as well next time, I'll take care of it this time
[04:16] <bjsnider> what do you mean?
[04:16] <micahg> ideally, it shows what version the changes are made at
[04:17] <micahg> for build failures, stuff like this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.dev/revision/565
[04:17] <micahg> before you do the changes
[04:18] <micahg> those commits don't exist in the non-.daily branches
[04:24] <bjsnider> you mean you want me to add something like "* New upstream snapshot: 15.0.861.0~r97996"
[04:24] <bjsnider> wait, he's changing the changelog and i'm not
[04:24] <bjsnider> i don't get it
[04:25] <micahg> take a look at this once LP updates it: https://code.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.dev
[04:27] <bjsnider> yes?
[04:27] <micahg> 568 says which revision failed, 569 is one fix, 570 is another
[04:28] <micahg> if we consistently fix after breakage, it makes merging into the next channel easier when the version is bumped
[04:28] <micahg> you just pull all the fixes down
[04:28] <bjsnider> ok, so you want me to add 568 in other words
[04:28] <micahg> right
[04:28] <bjsnider> no problem
[04:29] <micahg> thanks
[04:29] <micahg> bjsnider: BTW, it took me almost 5 months to get commit rights to the mozilla team bzr branches, even after that I still was learning more
[04:30] <micahg> not saying it'll necessarily take that long, but there's a learning curve, but once you get what's going on, you can fly :)
[04:30] <bjsnider> like i told you earlier i'm used to just acting unilaterally
[04:31] <bjsnider> but i also have access to fta to ask about build failures and packaging issues
[04:31] <micahg> right, Ubuntu doesn't work too well like that in general, there are times to act unilaterally, but usually it's a coordinated effort amongst team members
[04:31] <bjsnider> he's undoubtedly going to read this irc log at some point, so -- hi fta!
[04:33] <bjsnider> i should have known not to edit the daily branches because i run one of the bots for another project
[04:39] <micahg> heh, mistakes will be made, that's why we review branches initially
[04:39] <micahg> heck, mistakes will be made afterwards as well, that's why we have peer review
[15:03] <chrisccoulson> lol @ https://twitter.com/#!/bhearsum/status/147328159996579840 ;)
[16:14] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, if i download an official build of firefox 8.0.1 and then set app.update.desiredChannel to "beta", is it meant to update to the latest beta?
[16:15] <chrisccoulson> or is there another method to switch channels?
[16:15] <kbrosnan> channel switching is not supported
[16:15] <chrisccoulson> oh, that's probably why it offers me a 5.0 beta then ;)
[16:15] <chrisccoulson> well, actually, it just fails. but the update response is for 5.0
[16:16] <bhearsum> you can't adjust the channel in the product
[16:16] <bhearsum> you can do it by adjusting defaults/pref/channel-prefs.js though - be sure to shut down the browser before changing that
[16:16] <bhearsum> but no, 8.0.1 _shouldn't_ give you an offer for any beta
[16:16] <kbrosnan> you can change the pref in nightly/defaults/pref channel-prefs.js but it will result in unpredictable results
[16:17] <bhearsum> our release and beta streams are completely separate now
[16:17] <chrisccoulson> ok, thanks
[16:17] <bhearsum> kbrosnan: not really unpredictible
[16:17] <bhearsum> maybe non-obvious though
[16:18] <kbrosnan> a bit impercise but mainly was saying that the switching was untested
[16:18] <kbrosnan> and when we did test it. it resulted in some odd states
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> what i was trying to figure out is that if someone installs the release, switches to beta and then decides they want to go back to release, does test pilot remain enabled?
[16:19] <kbrosnan> where an aurora folder/icon/label was updateing on beta
[16:19] <bhearsum> ah, unpredictible in terms of the state of the app afterwards
[16:19] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: IIRC yes
[16:19] <bhearsum> that's dependent on the channel name alone, i think
[16:20] <chrisccoulson> just for context, we currently install test pilot in our beta builds in the application directory, which means that it gets removed if someone decides they want to use a release build again
[16:21] <chrisccoulson> the reason for this is that we have all users of our development release using the beta
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> and didn't want them all to permanently end up with test pilot
[16:22] <bhearsum> ah
[16:22] <bhearsum> hmm, i might be confusing Test Pilot with Feedback
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> but i'm considering installing test pilot as a distribution addon like in the official builds, so that the addon manager can update it
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> but that means that anybody who runs the development version of ubuntu will end up with test pilot installed until they manually remove it
[16:23] <bhearsum> yeah...
[16:23] <bhearsum> distribution addon means it ends up in the profile, right?
[16:24] <chrisccoulson> yeah
[16:24] <bhearsum> hm
[16:28] <bhearsum><EMAIL_ADDRESS>makes me think that it will be disabled when the channel is switched
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, yeah, i just tried that. the feedback button disappears :)
[16:29] <bhearsum> nice!
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> so that might be ok then. i don't think it would be the end of the world if people who are currently running precise end up with test pilot installed in their profile :)
[16:30] <kbrosnan> the button disapears, afik test pilot test may still run if the study allows that version
[16:30] <chrisccoulson> and it obviously doesn't matter for people who opted in to the beta on our stable releases either
[16:30] <chrisccoulson> kbrosnan, i think that's probably ok. unless you can think of a reason why it shouldn't run :)
[16:31] <kbrosnan> nope, just enumerating possibilities
[16:31] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> ok, i'm going to switch it to being a distribution addon in ubuntu then, so that people don't keep reporting bugs about being pestered to install the latest version of test pilot, when they can't :)
[16:32] <kbrosnan> btw damn cool that you have test pilot setup
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> we try to offer an experience that closely matches the upstream one, with the exception that it's delivered through our package manager instead :)
[16:33] <bhearsum> and that's why you guys are so awesome
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> heh, thanks ;)
[16:55] <alex_mayorga> Is the lack of about:crashes on firefox from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa intentional?
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, yes, we don't submit crash symbols for those builds. we do that for release + beta though
[16:57] <alex_mayorga> chrisccoulson: what's the rationale?
[16:57] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, too much data ;)
[16:58] <alex_mayorga> chrisccoulson: so if I hope to help Mozilla I should switch to http://nightly.mozilla.org/ ?
[16:58] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, yes, you can do that for nightlies
[17:00] <alex_mayorga> chrisccoulson: what's the function of "Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build" then?
[17:00] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, so we don't get any nasty surprises at beta :)
[17:01] <chrisccoulson> of course, you can still run it if you wish, but without the crash reporter for the time being :(
[17:01] <alex_mayorga> what would it take to have about:crashes? perhaps that can be my 1st patch ever ;-)
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> alex_mayorga, well, it's just a matter of turning on the crash reporter. but then the debug symbols have to go to mozilla
[17:03] <chrisccoulson> we do that for release and beta already, but the amount of data we'd be submitting would be crazy if we did it for nightly builds too
[17:03] <chrisccoulson> (1 build / release, 2 architectures / build for Firefox + Thunderbird, nearly every day)
[17:04] <alex_mayorga> I see
[17:04] <chrisccoulson> that ends up being around 400MB (compressed) every day
[17:05] <chrisccoulson> and those need to be stored somewhere ;)
[17:08] <alex_mayorga> have there been talks with mozilla if they want that?
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> no, but i'm not sure there are enough users of our nightly builds to justify it :)
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> of couse, i could be wrong
[17:12] <alex_mayorga> any way to obtain a "guesstimate"?
[17:12] <chrisccoulson> i think launchpad has an API for counting downloads
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure of a better way though
[19:37] <bjsnider> micahg, we have an el problemo with the new chromium 18: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=107585
[19:38] <bjsnider> i think it might be fixed quickly though so we should sit on it
[20:55] <bjsnider> something is awry with this commit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-browser.head/revision/845
[20:55] <bjsnider> after that dbg packages stopped being created properly
[21:00] <micahg> I don't see anything getting installed there in debian/rules
[21:04] <bjsnider> i think i'll revert all of that and run it in pbuilder to see if a proper dbg package is created
[21:05] <micahg> well, we don't want breakpad, the only thing that looks like it might help is the linux symbols stuff


[14:58] <penguin42> can anyone suggest how I could progress bug 1043513 a bit; I've got a patch there for it
[15:03] <tjaalton> penguin42: please send it upstream
[15:06] <penguin42> tjaalton: I have done, I mailed xorg-devel late Thursday, no one seems to have replied to the questions I asked, I guess I'll wait longer
[15:07] <penguin42> tjaalton: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-December/034680.html
[15:08] <tjaalton> penguin42: yeah I saw it now, cool


[00:51] <mup> Bug #1869990 opened: lxd machine-resources CPU code fails to accurately calculate numa topology for AMD Opteron 6376 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869990>
[00:57] <mup> Bug #1869990 changed: lxd machine-resources CPU code fails to accurately calculate numa topology for AMD Opteron 6376 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869990>
[01:00] <mup> Bug #1869990 opened: lxd machine-resources CPU code fails to accurately calculate numa topology for AMD Opteron 6376 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869990>
[08:13] <mup> Bug #1870042 opened: maas network connectivity check fails <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870042>
[10:01] <mup> Bug #1870097 opened: Wrong cores list for numa nodes <MAAS:In Progress by ack> <MAAS 2.7:In Progress by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870097>
[10:10] <mup> Bug #1870097 changed: Wrong cores list for numa nodes <MAAS:In Progress by ack> <MAAS 2.7:In Progress by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870097>
[10:13] <mup> Bug #1870097 opened: Wrong cores list for numa nodes <MAAS:In Progress by ack> <MAAS 2.7:In Progress by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870097>
[12:01] <mup> Bug #1870117 opened: Bond mac address shadows second interface mac address <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870117>
[16:29] <mup> Bug #1870171 opened: piston3 token delete cascades <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 2.7:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870171>


[00:26] <kees> infinity: any chance you can upload those eglibc patches? I'd like to commit changes to the qa regression test suite
[00:27] <infinity> kees: Oh, you actually wanted people to run that code?
[00:28] <infinity> kees: (I just got home from HK, and today's been a PlusOneMaint firefighting day, I'll toss you feedback and/or an upload by tomorrow)
[01:37] <TheMuso> D/c
[01:41] <bkerensa> cyphermox_: anything I can do to get this bug looked at and perhaps fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/972063
[02:10] <nemo> Sooo, just FYI, libcairo2-1.11 completely broke libreoffice on my SO's computer. menus unreadable
[02:10] <nemo> forcing install of 1.10 seems to have fixed things
[02:10] <nemo> lost some of my cairo dev libs in the process, ah well
[02:11] <nemo> I tried forcing 1.12 - that did not seem to help though. as screwed up as ever. perhaps due to some related deps, dunno.
[02:11] <nemo> anyway. 1.10, all better.
[02:36] <bernie> micahg: is there a specific channel where i could find compiz developers to help diagnose a bug interactively?
[02:37] <bernie> oh, i found #compiz
[02:38] <bernie> and #ubuntu-unity
[03:14] <kees> infinity: sweet, thanks! let me know if I can help further. :)
[03:42] <pitti> Good morning
[03:42] <pitti> slangasek: hm, perhaps I misremembered then; although 750 MiB and 800 MB isn't too far apart anyway
[03:43] <pitti> slangasek: 750 MiB seems fine, too
[04:15] <vibhav> micahg: Confragtulations!
[04:15] <vibhav> Congratulations*
[04:15] <micahg> vibhav: what did I do?
[04:15] <infinity> micahg: You know, but whatever it was, you obviously did it well.
[04:15] <infinity> s/You know/Who knows/
[04:16] <infinity> Brain:finger disconnect.
[04:16] <vibhav> micahg: You are in the Membership Board, right?
[04:16] <micahg> vibhav: ah, yes, thanks
[04:17] <infinity> Hasn't that been true for a while?
[04:17] <micahg> infinity: non-devs this time :)
[04:17] <vibhav> I only came to know about it today
[04:17] <infinity> Oh.  Too many boards.
[04:17] <infinity> So confusing.
[04:18] <micahg> well, the RMBs were collapsed into a single team now
[04:25] <TheMuso> /c/c
[05:15] <slangasek> pitti: yeah... see ubuntu-release@ for my follow-up question :)
[05:16] <slangasek> one way or the other we should lock this down so nusakan stops telling us our images are oversized ;)
[05:17] <pitti> slangasek: right, already replied there
[05:17] <slangasek> ok cool :)
[05:18]  * pitti votes for 700 Ububytes and Kububytes, units which will grow by 50 MB every year
[05:18] <pitti> which are shamefully missing from http://xkcd.com/394/
[05:19] <slangasek> heh
[05:20]  * infinity nearly has a beverage->monitor incident over "kububytes".
[06:09] <ScottK> xnox: pyopencl both needs a rebuild for the boost transition and a merge from Debian.  I'm technically TIL on the merge due to a previous rebuild, but don't anticipate getting to it, so if you could do it or find someone, that'd be great.
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[08:31] <seb128> RAOF, slangasek, SpamapS, bdmurray: is there anything blocking the unity SRU to move to -updates?
[08:31] <seb128> the bugs are all verified and it's in proposed for 11 days
[08:32] <seb128> the bamf one should be verified as well, the one non-green bug can't be opened, launchpad timeout on it
[09:47] <RAOF> seb128: Bug #772063 seems to show a regression during testing? Specifically, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/772063/comments/29
[09:49] <ogra_> "resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink, not doing anything."
[09:49]  * ogra_ wonders why thats an error ... should be a warning
[09:50] <ogra_> (or even "info")
[09:53] <morphis> ogra_: heyho, do you mind if I ask you something in private?
[09:54] <ogra_> well, is it something the community shouldnt see ?
[09:54] <ogra_> :)
[09:56] <seb128> RAOF, hum, I doubt that's a regression, that's the only user who mentioned something like that and there was no change around the super handling code nor the dash
[09:56] <seb128> RAOF, seems rather a local random issue for that user
[09:57] <seb128> RAOF, he also didn't reply to my comment asking to open a new bug
[09:58] <RAOF> Ok. I'll give that a shove.
[10:00] <RAOF> Ah, right.  And didrocks is currently fighting -0ubuntu2 to get it to build.
[10:01] <seb128> RAOF, correct
[10:14] <seb128> RAOF, thanks!
[10:14] <seb128> ;-)
[10:34] <seb128> could somebody set https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/precise/ubuntu-docs/missing-links/+merge/103121 to merged?
[10:35] <seb128> (it was targetting the wrong vcs, the fixes got merged into the correct one)
[11:58] <matanya> why do I get : bzr dh-make hello-2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz  bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[12:50] <ahasenack> hello, good morning/afternoon/evening!
[12:50] <ahasenack> could someone from the sponsors team take a look at my upload please? #1004678
[12:50] <ahasenack> thanks!
[13:04] <geser> ahasenack: the Standards-Version field is pure documentatory and doesn't get use anywhere. So you can update it (after checking the changes between the policy versions and if they apply to your package) to a current version (instead of adding a useless lintian-override)
[13:05] <ahasenack> geser: isn't the right thing to do to keep it at the lower version I need? Lucid, in this case?
[13:06] <geser> no need to
[13:06] <ahasenack> geser: the same debian source package builds on lucid all the way up to quantal
[13:06] <ahasenack> geser: adjusting dependencies at build time when needed
[13:07] <geser> the Standard-Versions is used at build (or anywhere, perhaps only for statistics)
[13:08] <geser> you could take a package from quantal with current Standard-Versions and backport it to lucid if you wanted (and only care about build-dependencies and build tools like dh_python)
[13:09] <ahasenack> geser: where do I find the differences in the standards, and what they mean?
[13:13] <Adri2000> ahasenack: /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist*, debian-policy package
[13:14] <ahasenack> geser: so your review point is to bump that and get rid of the override, right?
[13:14] <ahasenack> Adri2000: thanks
[13:14] <geser> yes
[13:14] <ahasenack> geser: anything else or still looking?
[13:17] <ahasenack> geser: that's a lot of versions to check, do you have a suggestion? That document is long and is full of details
[13:23] <geser> ahasenack: it's nothing urgent, so you can leave it for now at that versions and review it for the next upload. Most of the changes of that new policy versions probably don't affect your package at all
[13:23] <ahasenack> geser: ok, I'll file a bug for it
[13:26] <geser> ahasenack: another small upgrade for the furture: as lucid has already debhelper7 you could upgrade debian/compat (and the build-dependency on debhelper) to 7 if you want
[13:26] <geser> otherwise the changes to debian/* look ok
[13:27] <ahasenack> geser: yeah, and I would love to have a simpler rules file too, but I inherited that package as is and am proceeding carefully with the debian/* changes
[13:27] <ahasenack> I personally prefer to use override targets in the rules file when I have an exception
[13:28] <ahasenack> geser: not too long ago that package had to build on dapper, I guess that was the main reason
[13:31] <ahasenack> geser: ok, that's done in our trunk branch (debhelper 7)
[13:31] <ahasenack> so next upload will have it
[13:31] <ScottK> geser: Since compat 5 is not deprecated, there's really no reason not to leave it.
[13:32] <ahasenack> right, but we don't have reason to keep 5 anymore since we don't build this for old releases anymore
[13:34] <geser> ScottK: true, but is there a reason to not slowly upgrade the package to current "versions" (if possible)?
[13:35] <ScottK> As long as you don't need features from newer debhelper, it seems like not a very productive use of time.
[13:35] <ScottK> There's no reason not to, but there's no particular benefit either.
[13:37] <ahasenack> I plan to move this rules file to more dh 7 features
[13:39] <xnox> ScottK: I will get to it =) I'm doing it in alphabetical order, NMUs/uploading patches etc =)
[13:39] <ScottK> xnox: OK.  I'll leave it to you.
[13:39] <ScottK> ahasenack: In that case, have at it.
[13:39] <xnox> stop of Debian Imports stalls it a bit, due to alpha 1
[13:42] <ahasenack> geser: so, what happens now?
[13:42] <ahasenack> geser: are you a sponsor, or did you just take a look?
[13:44] <geser> ahasenack: I just took a look, can't sponsor it as I'm not a core-dev (can't upload to main)
[13:44] <ahasenack> geser: ok, thanks even so
[13:51] <cr3> hi folks, I use mk-build-dep to generate a package for the build dependencies when working on the source of a project. might there be a way to also generate a package for the run dependencies, not just for the build but to actually run the project?
[14:04] <ScottK> geser: You should fix that.
[14:09] <tseliot> pitti: any ideas about this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1025080/
[14:14] <pitti> tseliot: are you running this straigth out of trunk?
[14:14] <pitti> tseliot: without building the pacakge first?
[14:14] <pitti> tseliot: my bet is that "./setup.py egg_info" will fix it
[14:15] <tseliot> pitti: yep. I'm doing PYTHONPATH=.. ./run from master
[14:15] <pitti> tseliot: I guess run should check if the egg is present and point that out
[14:16] <tseliot> pitti: yes, that wouldn't be such a bad idea
[14:17] <tseliot> pitti: all of the tests passed. I had to test my changes to the xkit code. I'd like to fix the other packages before uploading my new xkit
[14:17] <tseliot> pitti: shall I push my changes without uploading?
[14:18] <tseliot> (leaving it UNRELEASED)
[14:18] <pitti> tseliot: sure, as we are currently frozen
[14:18] <sconklin> @pilot in
[14:19] <tseliot> pitti: ok then
[14:27] <rdz> hi all. there is a package that a team of which i am a member of host in debian, that is currently broken in ubuntu 12.04. what's the best way to get fix pushed to ubuntu? i'm not familiar with the ubuntu processes, but i am a ubuntu user myself
[14:27] <rdz> the package in question is pd-readanysf
[14:28] <rdz> there is wrong linking order in the Makefile which unfortunately leads  to totally broken binary in ubuntu 12.04
[14:28] <rdz> (unfortunately it works in debian unstable), otherwise we would have captured the error earlier
[14:34] <geser> rdz: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[14:36] <rdz> geser, thanks
[14:41] <rdz> "Check that the bug is fixed in the current development release" <- this would be ubuntu 12.10, right?
[14:42] <rdz> geser, so if I apply to the changes to debian, they would automatically "drop" to the current development release and then the process could be proceeded to include the fix in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:54] <jwendell> hi, folks. why does the precise kernel have the 3.2.0 numbering instead of follow upstream 3.2.x schema?
[14:58] <Adri2000> rdz: yes, fixed in the development release currently means fixed in quantal, and if a working package is in debian it should get synced automatically (though I'm not sure if we are auto-syncing from unstable or testing now). that is a prerequisite for uploading a fix in ubuntu 12.04
[14:58] <Adri2000> jwendell: maybe ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[14:59] <jwendell> Adri2000, thanks
[15:13] <bdmurray> dobey: bug 981255 is missing some SRU information
[15:13] <bdmurray> dobey: otherwise the other bugs look good
[15:16] <dobey> bdmurray: added, though it makes no sense for that bug really. :)
[15:34] <bdmurray> dobey: a couple of the ubuntuone-control-panel bugs don't have fix released quantal tasks… did they just not get updated?
[16:14] <dobey> bdmurray: oh?
[16:16] <bdmurray> dobey: bug 966283
[16:16] <bdmurray> and bug 865688
[16:18] <dobey> bdmurray: looks like maybe the ubuntu task on those was added after the upload to quantal, so they didn't get automatically marked
[16:18] <dobey> bdmurray: fixed it now anyway so they are fix released in q
[16:19] <bdmurray> dobey: okay thanks.  by the way could you look at my new lptools merge proposal?
[16:21] <dobey> bdmurray: as soon as i can.
[17:16] <Bluefoxicy> where do core dumps go
[17:16] <Bluefoxicy> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:17] <nemo> depends on whether you have core dumps enabled
[17:17] <Bluefoxicy> oh
[17:17] <nemo> ulimit
[17:17] <Bluefoxicy> because VLC crashes constantly on trying to play dvd
[17:17] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: although if you can reproduce it. just use gdb
[17:17] <nemo> much easier
[17:17] <Bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ ulimit
[17:17] <Bluefoxicy> unlimited
[17:17] <nemo> man ulimit
[17:17] <nemo> gdb vlc
[17:17] <Bluefoxicy> nemo what do I do with gdb
[17:17] <nemo> run
[17:18] <nemo> I'm surprised that wasn't trapped though, and submitted using ubuntu's error reporting dæmon
[17:18] <nemo> well. dæmon or widget or whatever it is :)
[17:18] <Bluefoxicy> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[17:18] <Bluefoxicy> [Switching to Thread 0x7ffff1efe700 (LWP 21354)]
[17:18] <Bluefoxicy> 0x00007fffedbbc76c in dvdnav_describe_title_chapters ()
[17:18] <Bluefoxicy>    from /usr/lib/libdvdnav.so.4
[17:19] <Bluefoxicy> well then :)
[17:19] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: bt for backtrace - but you'll get more useful backtrace by installing -dbg versions of the libraries
[17:19] <Bluefoxicy> it's a bug in libdvdnav4 :)
[17:19] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: then, file a bug w/ the appropriate project
[17:19] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: I suspect if you are using a very old ubuntu version, they'll want you to test w/ a more recent version of their lib
[17:19] <bdmurray> seb128: might you know anything about the sru for bug 1006701?
[17:20] <Bluefoxicy> i'm on 12.04 amd64
[17:20] <Bluefoxicy> and just updated evrytihng a few hours ago
[17:23] <Bluefoxicy> nemo:  more interesting, I'm trying to watch a DVD and the default movie player (Totem) is horrible.
[17:23] <Bluefoxicy> The DVD appears interlaced, as alternate scanlines flicker one pixel up and down constantly
[17:23] <Bluefoxicy> VLC has a "deinterlace" feature that fixes this, while Totem just stabs you in the eyes for 2 hours D:
[17:24] <Bluefoxicy> (yes it's extremely noticeable looking at the ripped copy pulled from the DVD with Thoggen)
[17:27] <nemo> I've never found Totem's DVD playing adequate
[17:31] <Bluefoxicy> well, most people aren't stupid enough to encode their content interlaced
[17:31] <Bluefoxicy> Disney obviosuly doesn't share in this collective intelligence
[17:32] <Bluefoxicy> oh
[17:32] <Bluefoxicy> I thought you said 'annoying,' not 'adequate' :P
[17:34] <Bluefoxicy> nemo:  http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/521345_3614750160740_372269247_n.jpg btw :3
[17:34] <nemo> ah. I have that
[17:36] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: if you want to play, and vlc is being annoying.
[17:36] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: you might be able to navigate the chapter structure in vlc without triggering the bug. otherwise, you can always do mplayer dvd://1
[17:38] <seb128> bdmurray, what about it?
[17:39] <seb128> bdmurray, the launchpad page seems to have all the details I would provide, do you have a specific question?
[17:42] <bdmurray> seb128: the diff contains a change I'm not clear on
[17:42] <bdmurray> --- oneconf-0.2.8/oneconf/version.py    2012-04-10 13:11:34.000000000 +0000
[17:42] <bdmurray> +++ oneconf-<IP_ADDRESS>/oneconf/version.py  2012-06-04 11:48:14.000000000 +0000
[17:42] <bdmurray> -RELEASE='12.04'
[17:42] <bdmurray> +RELEASE='12.10'
[17:46] <seb128> bdmurray, hum, I'm unsure about it, can you ask on the bug for Didier?
[17:46] <bdmurray> seb128: yes, thanks for looking
[17:46] <seb128> yw!
[17:51] <Bluefoxicy> nemo:  it doesn't even start.
[17:51] <Bluefoxicy> nemo:  vlc that is
[17:52] <Bluefoxicy> tbh Totem wouldn't be terribly terrible if it would de-interlace
[17:52] <Bluefoxicy> sure it's not the most awesome DVD emulator ever, but it'll get you to the feature film with no real trouble.
[17:52] <Bluefoxicy> but when the feature film *vibrates*?
[18:04] <Bluefoxicy> nemo: mplayer interrupted with signal 11 in open_stream when trying to open dvd with menus
[18:04] <Bluefoxicy> I assume that means libdvdnav4 is broken o_o  mplayer dvd://16 works but I can't seek through the video etc.  No UI
[18:05] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: figured.
[18:06] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: that's why I was suggesting by number as a workaround
[18:06] <nemo> Bluefoxicy: you can still seek in the video using keyboard nave in mplayer
[18:06] <nemo> left/right pageup/pagedown
[18:06] <nemo> nav
[18:07] <Bluefoxicy> oh, update manager is telling me VLC crashed
[19:48] <seb128> slangasek, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~nathwill/ubuntu/precise/pam/lp-110287/+merge/100282 if you have some free time (I see you were piloting yesterday, not sure if you saw it or not but it's in the queue for a while)
[19:53] <seb128> zul, could you review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/989241? it's in the sponsoring queue for a while
[19:53] <zul> seb128: yep
[19:53] <seb128> roaksoax, hey, you sponsored https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/959218, could you get the fix in q?
[19:53] <seb128> zul, thanks
[19:54] <stgraber> seb128, roaksoax: though after alpha1 please, we're in softfreeze and lvm2 is seeded :)
[19:57] <seb128> stgraber, skaet email suggested uploads could happen as usual to proposed during the freeze, what happened to that?
[19:57] <stgraber> seb128: proposed is fine indeed
[19:57] <seb128> stgraber, ok, so when you mean "after alpha1 please" you mean "don't forget to use proposed"?
[19:57] <roaksoax> seb128: sure
[19:58] <seb128> roaksoax, thanks
[19:58] <roaksoax> :)
[19:58] <stgraber> seb128: right, I should have said, don't upload anything seeded to the release pocket until post-alpha1 (unless it's release critical and #ubuntu-release is aware of it)
[19:59] <seb128> stgraber, there should be no need to say that, people know we are frozen and read the announce email, but thanks for watching what happens... ;-)
[20:00] <stgraber> seb128: haha, good one :) you'd be surprised how many people we have to remind to subscribe and READ -announce during the DMB meetings...
[20:01] <seb128> stgraber, well anyway let's not spend too much time on whether you need to remind others what they need to do or not and assume those who didn't notice it was a1 week know now ;-)
[20:02] <seb128> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/989242 as well ;-)
[20:02] <zul> seb128: ack
[20:02] <seb128> thanks ;-)
[20:09] <slangasek> seb128: well, I was scheduled to pilot yesterday but never got a chance :(  I will look at that merge, yes
[20:10] <seb128> slangasek, thanks
[20:10] <seb128> slangasek, yeah, lot of people seem to be scheduled and get busy with other things, I still use the opportunity that they were supposed to pilot to bounce stuff at them :p
[20:10] <slangasek> heh :)
[20:10] <seb128> it's only fair ;-)
[20:11] <seb128> especially in a week where dholbach called for helped because we had a backlog > 100 items in the queue
[20:11] <seb128> -ed
[20:15] <barry> pitti: are you still around?
[20:53] <ahasenack> hi, could someone review/sponsor my proposed upload to quantal? #1004678? Thanks
[21:13] <kees> stgraber: I've uploaded the first pass of libseccomp to debian. it'll be in NEW soon...
[21:17] <stgraber> kees: cool!
[21:39] <bdmurray> hyperair: all the bugs associated with alarm-clock-applet in precise-proposed (bug 977110 for example) are missing SRU information
[22:00] <sconklin> @pilot out
[22:45] <barry> james_w: ping
[23:47] <bdmurray> any ideas about what is going on in bug 1001904?
[23:47] <bdmurray> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sysvutils_2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu45_amd64.deb (--unpack)
[23:47] <bdmurray> why would that be tried to install?
[23:53] <infinity> bdmurray: On the one hand, it looks like there's a missing Replaces there, on the other hand, I have no idea why he's trying to install hardy packages on precise.
[23:57] <infinity> bdmurray: Ah-ha.  His DpkgHistoryLog gives a hint.
[23:57] <infinity> bdmurray: He added hardy sources to install ancient versions of java.
[23:58] <infinity> bdmurray: And then his next dist-upgrade pulled in hardy Essential packages.
[23:58] <infinity> bdmurray: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that's really not a supported configuration.
[23:58] <bdmurray> infinity: how do you see that he added hardy sources?
[23:59] <infinity> bdmurray: I don't, per se, but the previous two commands (apt-get install sun-java5 and sun-java6) pulled in a version of sun-java5 that's only available in hardy.  Indeed, we haven't shipped it *since* hardy, which is likely why he added the sources.


[20:03] <jmpf> is there a way to get a db dump/mirror of the prod db? i was looking around and didn't see anything
[22:38] <cjwatson> jmpf: if you see this in logs: no, because it contains lots of private information


[02:53] <Paddy_NI> why did I get banned Flannel?
[02:53] <Flannel> Paddy_NI: Because you're a liability
[02:53] <Paddy_NI> how dare you no I am not
[02:54] <Flannel> Paddy_NI: You showed me that you're well aware of your actions and behaviors, and are doing them on purpose.
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> Flannel, no I did not.. what are you talking about?
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> show me?
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> yet again it is you or IdleOne
[02:54] <Paddy_NI> the famous two
[02:55] <Paddy_NI> literally.. you or IdleOne.. no one else
[02:56] <Flannel> Paddy_NI: that's not accurate, but it's also not important.
[02:56] <Paddy_NI> nonsense
[02:57] <Paddy_NI> and its spot on
[02:59] <elky> I can't really see a point in the past half hour where your comments in -ot have been for any other purpose than to get a rise from someone.
[03:00] <Paddy_NI> I was simply making an observation about a network
[03:00] <Paddy_NI> no I was not looking for a rise
[03:01] <elky> calling snuxoll a fad boy for having a palm pre rather than the iphone you'd previously subscribed wasn't an attempt to get a rise?
[03:01] <Paddy_NI> elky, that is incorrect
[03:01] <Paddy_NI> I said both where fads
[03:02] <Paddy_NI> like pokemon and such
[03:02] <elky> So you namecalled 2 people and you admit it. Cool. Ban stays.
[03:02] <Paddy_NI> elky, heh
[03:03] <Paddy_NI> typical.. well it can stay I guess.. I am at the mercy of OPs that need reseated
[03:03] <elky> Your only purpose there today seems to have been to make it less comfortable for other people to be there. That's not the kind of contribution we want for there.
[03:03] <Paddy_NI> elky, you make it less comfortable on a daily basis.. yet I am at your mercy.. what am I to do
[03:04] <Paddy_NI> you know.. leave it.. some other time
[03:08] <funkyHat> When rww starts having a go at people that aren't behaving properly I feel it makes it harder for me to do anything about it...
[03:27] <Flannel> funkyHat: If he's just heckling, it's not doing any good, so it'd be good to step in anyway
[03:34] <elky> funkyHat, talk to him about it if it's affecting you like that. he's not closed-minded
[03:40] <IdleOne> How did I get blamed for something I didn't do when I wasn't here in a channel I don't have ops in :/
[03:41] <Flannel> IdleOne: never let the facts get in the way of a good story
[03:42] <IdleOne> Flannel: noted
[04:02] <elky> And there's no story like a sob story.
[04:12] <jrib> help please...
[04:12] <jrib> !#ubuntu-bots
[04:12] <jrib> ubottu: forget #ubuntu-bots
[04:13] <jrib> you liar.
[04:14] <Flannel> jrib: The factoid has no hash
[04:14] <jrib> !ubuntu-bots
[04:14] <jrib> I see
[04:14] <jrib> ubottu: forget ubuntu-bots
[04:14] <jrib> thanks Flannel
[07:36] <bazhang> the bot thinks I set a ban in -ot
[07:39] <Flannel> bazhang: Where?
[07:39] <Flannel> or, which ban?
[07:39] <bazhang> Flannel, in the weekly prompt via PM, on witeshark
[07:40] <bazhang>  Hi, please review the ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>that you set on Sat May 29 05:40:07 2010 in #ubuntu-offtopic,  etc/link
[07:41] <Flannel> bazhang: That's a mark, it seems.
[07:56] <elky> It'd have to be, and getting reminded about those is a little redundant
[07:56] <Flannel> It might just be because it uses the same internal search as bansearch, which shows marks
[07:57] <bazhang> pepper_haze is still trying to defend the 'pixplz'
[07:57] <maco> if we're doing feature requests, could the bot prompt just once in the case of a /kb ? it wants you to comment on the remove and the ban. do we really need to comment twice?
[07:57] <maco> bazhang: not the brightest bulb
[07:57] <bazhang> maco, understatement of all time
[07:58] <Flannel> bazhang: If we stop reacting to it, I imagine it'll die down
[08:26] <Tm_T> hi
[08:26] <bazhang> hi Tm_T
[08:30] <bazhang> jungli is back at it. I have him in PM again.
[08:37] <Tm_T> funny person this haze
[08:38] <bazhang> tried to PM cokers but no response (back in #ubuntu )
[08:41] <elky> has anyone spoken in PM with pepper_haze?
[08:41] <bazhang> I will
[08:42] <elky> because his only intent is to stomp on others
[08:43] <bazhang> no response so far
[08:43] <elky> bazhang, let me know if he starts shouting at you in PM and I'll help him on his way.
[08:45] <elky> bazhang, still no response?
[08:45] <bazhang> elky, not yet
 where do you leave improvement ideas for ubottu
[08:49] <bazhang> finally responded, btw
[08:54] <elky> I'm pretty sure this happens every time he comes past, fwiw
[08:54] <elky> the nick is has a familiar sound to it to me, for the wrong reasons
 anyone want a free psychic reading? i'm in a rare mood
[09:28] <bazhang> aw he quit
[12:22] <jayne> anyone around? Sounds like a +q (or +b) *!*bobrown@* may be in order
[12:22] <bazhang> jayne, did so
[12:22] <bazhang> whoops not that but the entire IP address
[12:22] <jayne> oh, no wonder I didn't see anything. I was scrolled way up.
[12:23] <bazhang> thanks :)
[12:23] <elky> jayne, thanks :)
[14:33] <funkyHat> profound...
[14:36] <IdleOne> deep thoughts by visvanath
[14:37] <Tm_T> I'm not sure if mocking users like that would be wise in the long run though
[14:46] <IdleOne> Tm_T: you are correct and I apologize
[14:46] <IdleOne> I let my stupid come out for a moment :/
[14:47] <Tm_T> no problems, I think we all do that in times
[14:47] <IdleOne> I will try to not let that happen again
[14:49]  * Tm_T wonders the wonders of human nature
[14:50] <IdleOne> Tm_T: if you mean the ease with which a human can turn ugly, yes it is scary
[14:51] <Tm_T> not only that
[17:45] <IdleOne> edbian: not sure that can be done but talk to jussi or tsimpson perhaps
[17:46] <nhandler> edbian: The only people who have access to the logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com are the canonical sysadmins. You would need to file an rt ticket (email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to do that
[17:46] <edbian> nhandler, thanks
[17:46] <IdleOne> there ya go nhandler always knows
[17:46] <IdleOne> :)
[17:46] <nhandler> I know there were other similar tickets filed, but I am not sure whether or not the Canonical sysadmins actually remove stuff like this from the logs.
[17:49] <edbian> If only those admins can see it do I have a lot to worry about?
[17:49] <edbian> At least it's not like posted publicly on some web page for a thousand spam bots to scan.
[17:49] <Tm_T> edbian: no, logs are public, but they're only one who has write access
[17:50] <Tm_T> edbian: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/06/05/%23ubuntu.html
[17:50] <edbian> Tm_T, Thanks
[17:50] <nhandler> edbian: Also keep in mind that other bots produce public logs of #ubuntu as well https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots#External%20Bots
[17:51] <edbian> ugh
[17:51] <edbian> thanks...
[18:06] <IdleOne> Pici: Re: puregnome factoid. My system got foo and bard it removed several apps including nvidia drivers, system was bootable and I recovered easily but I think that it may be safe to assume a new ubuntu user might get lost with outcome and recovery process not to mention upset at "us" for providing that info. I also suspect that the fact I am running Maverick may have had a large part in my issues with the factoid but can't be certain. if some
[18:06] <IdleOne> one would be willing to test it on a vanilla 10.04 install and report the outcome it would be helpful
[18:26] <IdleOne> ubottu: unforget puregnome
[18:26] <IdleOne> err no access :/
[18:27] <bazhang> already forgotten IdleOne
[18:27] <bazhang> p i c i wants to hold off on remembering it
[18:27] <IdleOne> yeah I was looking for the older version of the factoid
[18:29] <IdleOne> older/original I should say
[18:42] <bazhang> same IP though
[18:43] <jussi> all gone :)
[18:44] <maco> wait wait there's an *unforget* command?
[18:44] <jussi> maco: yes...
[18:45] <maco> wow
[18:45] <maco> if only humans had that command!
[18:45] <jussi> lol
[18:45] <jussi> if only humans had sudo :P
[18:46] <maco> sudo make me a sandwich
[18:47] <ikonia> I've put a mute on them, while I ask why he has clones
[18:47] <bazhang> they should be klined any second now
[18:47] <bazhang> the last batch was
[18:48] <ikonia> there you go
[18:48] <ikonia> connection died
[18:48] <maco> pfft i put teh mute first
[18:48] <maco> you were still typing
[18:48] <ikonia> maco: I'll remove your ip specific ban if that's ok and leave my ip range ban in place for a while
[18:48] <maco> ok
[18:48] <ikonia> give it an hour or so in case they come back
[18:49] <maco> but the IPs they had when bazhang got them werent in that range
[18:49] <bazhang> <IP_ADDRESS> was what they had previously
[18:49] <maco> yeah and this was a 90.x.x.x
[18:50] <ikonia> the 80.10 got klined, the 90. didn't
[18:50] <ikonia> hence why I only put the ban on the 90 range
[18:50] <marienz> hmm, I don't have enough of an eye on this place
[18:51] <ikonia> marienz: your eyes are everywhere, you can't watch everything
[18:54] <marienz> ikonia: can you forward them somewhere (like #-unregged) so I can see them join and take them out?
[18:54] <ikonia> sure
[18:54] <ikonia> I'll change the two bans to forwards
[18:55] <marienz> thank you
[18:55] <ikonia> marienz: what specific channel do you want ?
[18:55] <ikonia> the actual channel #-unregged ?
[18:55] <marienz> any will do (#-unregged has the advantage that they'll also end up there if they miss your forward and hit the join throttle)
[18:55] <marienz> no, I meant #ubuntu-unregged
[18:55] <ikonia> ok, just checking
[18:57] <ikonia> sorted
[18:59] <jrib> maco: alias unforget relearn  in humans unfortunately
[19:02] <marienz> I'll keep an eye on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-unregged for a while, but I'll probably have to leave to make dinner in half an hour or so
[19:03] <marienz> please prod me or staff in general if another wave of those hits
[19:03] <ikonia> all seems quiet too, looks like ##c has gone +r
[19:03] <marienz> they were in there?
[19:03] <ikonia> maybe worth considering it for #ubuntu if they come back
[19:04] <ikonia> not sure, but users (for some reason) are pm'ing me asking why they can't talk in ##c, it looks like it's gone +r earlier today
[19:04] <marienz> it seems unlikely the hosts these come in from will contribute positively to the network, so we're happy to kline them for a while to keep the network tidy.
[19:04] <ikonia> I'm assuming they are linked
[22:43] <maco> IdleOne just got called "baby girl" by a random person in #ubuntu
[22:43]  * maco squirms
[22:43] <IdleOne> maco: got called dude
[22:43] <maco> yes that too
[22:43] <maco> but that happens often enough to have ceased to be noteworthy ;-)
[22:43] <IdleOne> granted
[22:43] <mneptok> incoming mental image of cross-dressing fellow ops. and it's a frickin' doozy.
[22:43] <maco> hahaha
[22:43] <IdleOne> I have NEVER been called baby girl before
[22:45] <maco> mneptok: http://whereisandy.com/media/image/har/teslamural.jpg
[22:47] <maco> mneptok: a drag night at uds could be quite amusing ^_^
[22:47] <mneptok> "excellent fashion sense" and "black nail polish" are mutually exclusive
[22:53] <Tm_T> mneptok: are you sure it's black?
[23:44] <MTecknology> Flannel: ping
[23:47] <Flannel> Howdy MTecknology
[23:47] <MTecknology> hi
[23:49] <MTecknology> have i been banned long enough?
[23:49] <Flannel> MTecknology: I have no idea how you've existed on IRC without noticing that noticing a channel is bad.  But is it safe to assume you know now?
[23:50] <MTecknology> it's safe to assume I know it's no ok in #ubuntu*
[23:50] <MTecknology> s/no/not/
[23:50] <Flannel> MTecknology: It's probably safe to say it's universally considered rude, but if you wind up getting in trouble in other channels, that's none of my business
[23:51] <Flannel> MTecknology: Anyway, as long as you're now familiar with the fact that pinging everyone in a channel is rude, I've got no issue removing your ban.
[23:52] <MTecknology> alrighty
[23:52] <Flannel> MTecknology: I've removed it, please join and say something to make sure I got it right.
[23:53] <Flannel> or... don't.
[23:54] <IdleOne> heh
[23:57] <Pici> When did he notice the channel?
[23:57] <Flannel> Pici: A few days ago, -ot
[23:57] <Flannel> let me look
[23:58] <Flannel> May 31 06:30 UTC (according to BT)
[23:58] <Pici> Flannel: I don't care that much, just wondering
[23:58] <Flannel> or thats when I banned him anyway
[23:58] <Flannel> Just totally random, and then it took a few of his reactions to people's reactions for me to figure out he wasn't doing it accidentally.
[23:58] <IdleOne> notcie channel? what channel?
[23:59] <knome> IdleOne, "-ot"
[23:59] <IdleOne> I am not following
[23:59] <IdleOne> splain plez
[23:59] <Pici> /notice


[06:51] <dpm> good morning all
[07:41] <RawChid> Good morning
[08:07] <dpm> morning RawChid
[14:13] <TLE> dpm: hallo
[14:28] <TLE> sorry, got to go, be online in 30 min
[17:19] <kelemengabor> dpm: good evening, got a minute?
[17:20] <kelemengabor> what should we do about bugs that say package X (or part of its strings) are not translated to language Y?
[17:20] <kelemengabor> like, bug #856505 or bug #856511
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856505 in lightdm (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "LightDM German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856505
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856511 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity panel German translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856511
[17:22] <kelemengabor> I'd throw them out... if they have nothing to do about i18n, else we could have 150 language * 1000 incomplete translation bugs
[17:23] <kelemengabor> the only good thing is that we only have about 10 of these - yet :)
[17:28] <artnay_> I wonder how new language pack one should have to have those translated
[17:29] <artnay_> because I have them untranslated as well (although they have been translated ages ago in LP)
[17:29] <artnay_> but I'm just about to reinstall oneiric... actually the installer is running now
[17:30] <artnay_> I need a fresh start with oneiric, it's way too buggy for me at the moment
[17:30] <artnay_> even the installer seems to crash now.
[17:31] <artnay_> not just oneiric but I'm getting pissed with LP as well ;) because of bug 818230
[17:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 818230 in launchpad "LP translations get overwritten by upstream imports (affects: 1) (heat: 13)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818230
[17:33] <artnay_> this time grub translations were overwritten with horrible mistakes
[17:34] <artnay_> yep, this installer is totally stuck. have to reboot.
[17:37] <trijntje_> what about bugs that say X not translated, while it shows translated in LP? I know that lightdm is also untranslated in Dutch while it has been complete in LP for months
[17:54] <artnay_> trijntje_: same in Finnish
[17:55] <artnay_> trijntje_: I think it's a different package though (at least in LP), those string belong to unity-greeter
[17:55] <artnay_> oh great, onscreen keyboard doesn't work in unity-greeter :(
[17:57] <artnay_> oh, hopefully it will be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/851565
[17:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851565 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Onscreen Keyboard cannot be used to input password (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [High,Fix committed]
[18:19] <artnay_> have you noticed this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/856655
[18:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856655 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout string doesn't exist in translation template (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:20] <artnay_> the whole window is in English but that seems to be the only string which doesn't exist in template
[18:29] <kelemengabor> artnay_: is this (#856655) on the text-based installer, or the graphical one?
[18:31] <artnay_> kelemengabor: graphical
[18:31] <artnay_> I just did a fresh install
[18:31] <kelemengabor> okay, then it is not the debian-installer package
[18:32] <artnay_> umh, that might be true
[18:32] <artnay_> kelemengabor: however several similar strings exist in debian-installer
[18:33] <dpm> kelemengabor, I think it's fine to triage them, assign them to the appropriate lang team and mark them as low. Btw, I talked to pitti about langpacks: there wasn't an update in the end because he disabled them last week for the beta-2 freeze. We'll reenable them tomorrow
[18:33] <kelemengabor> artnay_: that doesn't help us much
[18:34] <artnay_> kelemengabor: it doesn't exist in ubiquity, either
[18:34] <artnay_> kelemenga: this is what we have in a template: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=This+default+value+is
[18:35] <artnay_> almost the same but not quite
[18:36] <kelemengabor> dpm: okay, I'll leave them then
[18:37] <dpm> thanks kelemengabor, looking forward to be able to spend some more time on translations next week :)
[18:37] <artnay_> kelemenga: #856655 now has a screenshot
[18:37] <dpm> I've got to go now
[18:37] <dpm> have a good evening everyone!
[18:37] <artnay_> bye dpm
[18:38] <kelemengabor> artnay_: cool, that always helps :)
[18:41] <artnay_> can someone help with this one? I see only some filesystems listed in debian-installer, not all: http://imgur.com/r7A5w and https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=sis%C3%A4lt%C3%A4v%C3%A4
[18:42] <artnay_> I'm actually looking for "btrfs tapahtumakirjanpidon sisältävä tiedostojärjestelmä"
[18:42] <artnay_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=btrfs nothing
[18:44] <artnay_> it's somehow translated but can't see how
[18:44] <artnay_> any ideas?
[18:49] <artnay_> kelemenga: that Switch User Account... (#856511) could also be a bug since the original string is "Switch from %s..." and the alternative string is triggered by translators (setting 0 to 1 in a translation template)
[18:59] <artnay_> uh, oh, what... this is a fresh install and I tried to start U1. it brings a window in front of me containing "Install Ubuntu One" and a lot of other text that doesn't exist in any ubuntuone template
[19:00] <kelemengabor> artnay_: strange, that btrfs string should be in debian-installer or ubiquity, but none of them contains it
[19:00] <artnay_> kelemenga: true
[19:00] <kelemengabor> perhaps debian-installer was not updated recently...
[19:00] <kelemengabor> I have no other idea
[19:01] <artnay_> kelemenga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/debian-installer/+imports
[19:02] <kelemengabor> as for #856511, I think just a new langpack is missing
[19:02] <artnay_> and...
[19:02] <artnay_> Version: 20101020ubuntu65
[19:02] <kelemengabor> at least I remember I translated it
[19:02] <artnay_> a year old debian-installer, might be that
[19:08] <artnay_> ok, tracked down the reason for ubuntuone-installer not being translated
[19:09] <artnay_> it's been just added as a template and the template has very low priority (leaving it to last page of templates!)
[19:09] <artnay_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntuone-installer/+pots/ubuntuone-installer please raise the priority (so that it's among other ubuntuone templates in "front page")
[19:10] <kelemengabor> artnay_: what is this ubuntuone-installer? could you make a screenshot?
[19:11] <artnay_> kelemenga: if you're running oneiric, just type ubuntuone-installer
[19:11] <artnay_> basically it seems like u1 isn't installed by default but the installer is
[19:12] <artnay_> kelemenga: http://i.imgur.com/re6fD.png
[19:12] <artnay_> and actually that "Learn more" isn't even translatable
[19:13] <kelemengabor> oh, I see... my system is updated since long, u1 was always installed :)
[19:13] <artnay_> or it comes from another template, don't know (didn't look at the code)
[19:13] <artnay_> kelemenga: that (and the unstability) are the reasons why I keep reinstalling ;)
[19:14] <kelemengabor> priority bumped
[19:14] <artnay_> thanks
[19:16] <kelemengabor> artnay_: indeed, it is not marked for translation: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/ubuntuone-installer/oneiric/view/head:/ubuntuone/installer/gui.py#L163
[19:16] <kelemengabor> could you file a bug about this?
[19:16] <artnay_> kelemenga: sure
[19:16] <kelemengabor> cool, thanks!
[19:17] <artnay_> nor is install button
[19:17] <artnay_> hmm, it is but doesn't exist in a template
[19:18] <artnay_> self.__main_button = Gtk.Button.new_with_mnemonic('I_nstall')
[19:20] <kelemengabor> nice catch too :)
[19:22] <artnay_> bug 856728
[19:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 856728 in ubuntuone-installer (Ubuntu) "Missing translations (Learn more, Install) in ubuntuone-installer window (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856728
[19:28] <artnay_> hey, this seems cool: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-September/034122.html
[19:29] <artnay_> now open up ubuntu friendly for translations ;)