[00:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154086 in debian-installer (main) "Installing to HDD with previous ubuntu fails to create fresh LVM claiming group already in use" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154086
[00:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154087 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails to install gutsy 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154087
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154099 in kdepim (main) "kpilot crashes on Gutsy when I run the wizard to discover my sony clie." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154099
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154100 in ubuntu "gutsy hanged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154100
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154101 in ubuntu "My external HDD is invisible, Ubuntu 7.10 does not see it, but 7.04 colud mount it, I had no problems before. And now my Xmod works finally good here, but there is a problem with volume control on it. It does not follow your movements. It means, I turn it right (it should increase volume) but it goes down, and when I turn it left it goes down as well. Card works in XP properly. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15
[00:22] <ubotu> New bug: #154102 in ubuntu "Gutsy DVD server install doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154102
[00:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154103 in system-config-printer (main) "system-config-printer shoudl show the ipp:// url for printers you are sharing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154103
[00:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154105 in firefox (main) "/usr/X11R6/bin/firefox prints and error and exits" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154105
[01:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154115 in pidgin (main) "Message notifier nudges after new mail is opened" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154115
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154117 in ubuntu "Black Screen and system halts when the drivers are enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154117
[01:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154120 in hal (main) "Nvidia 6600 crash Ubuntu 10.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154120
[01:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154121 in update-manager (main) "update-manager crashes on cleaning step" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154121
[01:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154122 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154122
[01:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154123 in streamripper (universe) "streamripper crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154123
[01:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154124 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "speedstep-centrino or acpi-cpufreq not working in 2.6.22-14-generic on Intel(R) Pentium(R) M " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154124
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154125 in gnome-panel (main) "Distribution Upgrade," [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154125
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154127 in lmodern (universe) "package lmodern 1.010x-3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154127
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154128 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.81 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /tmp/tmpvNVD8c/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154128
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154130 in fglrx-driver "Auto install of fglrx 'restricted' driver results in non working system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154130
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154131 in libxml-simple-perl (main) "could not install libxml-libxml-perl during gg upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154131
[02:16] <saivann> hi everyone!
[02:17] <saivann> there's a serious bug which affects wireless network in Gutsy
[02:17] <saivann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/53387
[02:17] <saivann> Is there something I / we can do around that ?
[02:18] <saivann> This bug causes WPA wireless network configured through the network-admin tool to stop working after a reboot
[02:19] <mr-russ> are you using auto config for wireless, or manual config?
[02:20]  * mr-russ suggests you ignore what I just said.
[02:21] <saivann> mr-russ : manual config through network-admin
[02:21] <saivann> <hehe
[02:22] <saivann> this problem appear in every laptops which use manual configuration, so it's not possible to have a WPA wireless network configured manually ( for static IP adress, for exemple )
[02:23] <mr-russ> I did have that problem with the intel centrino setup.  but it works fine with dhcp/auto.
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154084 in ubuntu "HP DV6000 problems with Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154084
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154132 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "screenshot tool fails to dissapear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154132
[02:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53387 in wpasupplicant "Boot order problem" [High,Confirmed]
[02:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154133 in ubuntu "Kubuntu not-writable error when changing date time format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154133
[02:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154134 in ubuntu "CD does not boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154134
[02:29] <saivann> mr-russ : Do you think that there's something I/we can do to help fixing that bug?
[02:31]  * mr-russ thinks for a second
[02:31] <mr-russ> it's not a problem with the network driver at my end, it's something to do with the connection options or network manager.
[02:31] <mr-russ> are we sure the packages listed in the bug are accurate?
[02:33] <saivann> mr-russ : No, because the actuel understanding of that bug is limited to the effects of the bug..
[02:34] <saivann> mr-russ : The title says "Boot order problem" because it seems to be a possible explanation, but it's also unsure..
[02:35] <saivann> mr-russ : You think that it's a problem of configuration files?
[02:37] <mr-russ> why does it work in dhcp, but not static ip?
[02:37] <mr-russ> that's my question.
[02:37] <saivann> mr-russ : Good question.. I'll test it on my laptop, if you can wait 2 minutes..
[02:38] <mr-russ> yep, I'll be around.
[02:45] <saivann> mr-russ : It doesn't work with static and DHCP, it only work with nm-applet which can only work with DHCP
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154136 in gnumed-client (universe) "gnumed - "new upstream available" - <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154136
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154137 in ubuntu "gutsy installer screws up sources.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154137
[02:58] <saivann> mr-russ : The problem seems to be the way that network-admin deals with WPA wireless network, because the problem only happens with network-admin
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154138 in dist (universe) "Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 Upgrade fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154138
[03:01] <mr-russ> I haven't used network admin.
[03:01] <mr-russ> so it works in dhcp with the gnome nm-applet?
[03:02] <mr-russ> not in manual mode from nm-applet.
[03:02] <saivann> mr-russ : Yes, only with nm-applet
[03:02] <mr-russ> and not when config is in /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:02] <saivann> mr-russ : Exactly
[03:02] <saivann> mr-russ : I never really understood how nm-applets manage the network
[03:03] <mr-russ> what does daemon log have to say about nm-applet?
[03:04] <mr-russ> or NetworkManager as it is there.
[03:04] <saivann> mr-russ : daemon logs? You speak about the system logs?
[03:04] <mr-russ> yes, sorry.  /var/log/daemon.log
[03:08] <saivann> mr-russ : I will do a pastebin
[03:09] <saivann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41150/
[03:09] <mr-russ> manual configuration is working for me on gutsy.  in DHCP mode.
[03:10] <saivann> mr-russ : Do you use network-admin ?
[03:11] <saivann> mr-russ : And did-you reboot? Because the problem will only happens after a reboot
[03:12] <mr-russ> hmmm
[03:28]  * mr-russ wonders what the last thing I said was.
[03:30] <saivann> mr-russ : the last thing you said was : hmmm
[03:32] <ubotu> New bug: #154139 in gcalctool (main) "Unable to change modes after using Esc to cancel Changing Modes Clears Calculation dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154139
[03:34] <saivann> mr-russ : Did you survive to your network bugs :)
[03:49] <ubotu> New bug: #154141 in compiz (main) "Random Restarts after enabling Desktop Effects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154141
[03:52] <mr-russ> saivann: just.
[03:53] <saivann> mr-russ : Are-you alright to continue working on this bug?
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154145 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Folder content disappeared in mozilla-thunderbird after upgrading to gutsy from feisty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154145
[03:57] <ubotu> New bug: #154142 in ubuntu "800x600 live boot makes install difficult" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154142
[03:57] <ubotu> New bug: #154143 in rhythmbox (main) "cannot play wpl in rhythmbox " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154143
[03:57] <ubotu> New bug: #154144 in python-defaults (main) "Error during upgrade ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154144
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154146 in update-manager (main) "adept crashes with "no upgrades available" even though some exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154146
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154147 in dtc (universe) "dtc-toaster has broken packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154147
[04:17] <mr-russ> saivann: yes, for a bit.
[04:17] <mr-russ> I only have a laptop so when I trial stuff I disappear.
[04:17] <saivann> mr-russ : Did you test if it works after a reboot?
[04:18] <saivann> mr-russ : No problem, it was my case too a week ago :)
[04:18] <mr-russ> no.  I'm too scared to reboot right now.  too much stuff open.
[04:18] <saivann> mr-russ : Okay, DHCP and static networking works with network-admin until you reboot
[04:19] <mr-russ> right.  but on reboot it fails.
[04:19] <mr-russ> and restarting networks fixes it.
[04:19] <saivann> mr-russ : Yes
[04:19] <mr-russ> the bug report indicated using rc.local allowed it to work, have you tested that workaround?
[04:19] <saivann> mr-russ : Do you think that it can be a mis-configuration problem? Or a boot order problem?
[04:20] <mr-russ> my reading of the bug hasn't sold me on either yet.
[04:21] <saivann> mr-russ : I says to add ifdown and ifup to rc.local, it's the same thing than doing a /etc/init.d/networking restart automatically after a reboot
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154148 in language-pack-kde-tr (main) "autopkgtest gutsy language-pack-kde-tr amd64: erroneous package!" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154148
[04:21] <saivann> mr-russ : I didn't test it
[04:21] <saivann> It says**
[04:22] <saivann> mr-russ : But I don't think that's a correct solution as it doesn't fix the problem, it's a workaround
[04:23] <mr-russ> sorry, my ITIL speak was coming out there.
[04:23] <saivann> mr-russ : ITIL ?
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154149 in apache2 (main) "Need package: mod_authnz_external" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154149
[04:26] <saivann> mr-russ : Does ITIL = Information Technology Infrastructure Library ( from wikipedia )
[04:26] <mr-russ> Information Technology library.  best practise methodoly we use at work.
[04:26] <mr-russ> saivann: that's it.  We use it at work.
[04:27] <saivann> mr-russ : Oh thanks :) another new word in my vocabulary!
[04:27] <mr-russ> incident, problem, change, release... that sort of stuff.
[04:28] <mr-russ> well from /etc/network/if-up.d/  wpasupplicant will start last for the interface coming up.
[04:28] <mr-russ> but that should be true of reboot as well as network start.
[04:28]  * mr-russ warns/remind /etc/init.d/network restart !=  stop then start.
[04:29] <mr-russ> can the error be reproduced with a network stop, network start?
[04:29] <saivann> mr-russ : THAT's interesting
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154151 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "No sound on fresh install of 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154151
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154152 in rhythmbox (main) "importing m4a and it fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154152
[04:31] <saivann> mr-russ : I noticed when looking at dmesg that WPA driver is loaded after the network itself at boot. It's the opposite when doing a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:32] <saivann> mr-russ : I think that doing a ifdown of /etc/init.d/networking stop doesn't stop the WPA driver
[04:32] <mr-russ> wpa driver is kernel module?
[04:33] <saivann> I don't have sufficient knowledge to tell you if it is or if it is not
[04:33] <saivann> maybe look at wpasupplicant package..?
[04:35] <saivann> mr-russ : I don't think that it's a kernel module, but wpasupplicant has his own init.d entry
[04:36] <mr-russ> Yes, I'm looking through those files now.
[04:38] <mr-russ> the init.d wpasupplicant is only for shutdown of wpasupplicant.   I don't remember exactly how wpa is started.. I though that /etc/init.d/networking was starting it
[04:41] <mr-russ> it should by my reading so far.
[04:41] <mr-russ> I can't find where networking is started in my rc5.d folder
[04:43] <Burgundavia> we don't use run level 5
[04:43] <saivann> there's a WPA config file in /etc/network/if-up.d
[04:44] <mr-russ> Burgundavia: we don't either. we use 2 for both X start and console start.  well there you go.
[04:44] <mr-russ> it's not in 2 either.
[04:45] <Burgundavia> wpa is started by NM
[04:46] <mr-russ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/53387
[04:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53387 in wpasupplicant "Boot order problem" [High,Confirmed]
[04:46] <mr-russ> for Burgundavia infor, this is the bug under discussion.
[04:46] <mr-russ> s/infor/info/
[04:46] <saivann> in rcS.d
[04:48] <saivann> Burgundavia : Does that mean that WPA isn't started by manual network with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:49] <saivann> mr-russ : That seems strange, but network doesn't appear in anything else than rcS.d in my case
[04:49] <mr-russ> the readme in rcS.d explains that, have a quick read.
[04:50] <Burgundavia> that gets into the interaction between NM and /e/n/i, which is complicated
[04:51] <mr-russ> Given this bug is high priority and been open for 15 months, I expect it's not simple :)
[04:51] <saivann> mr-russ : Thanks
[04:52] <saivann> Yeah, that's why I want to take the time to explore the problem in a deeper way
[04:53] <mr-russ> Burgundavia: I think we are all ears to the complex interaction between NM and /e/n/i.
[04:53] <mr-russ> what is /e/n/i?
[04:53] <saivann> This bug didn't affect officiel Ubuntu package themself until Gutsy release, which has WPA support
[04:54] <mr-russ> I was using WPA of feisty.
[04:54] <Burgundavia> I am just as lost
[04:54] <saivann> mr-russ : Yeah the problem in the same on feisty once the wpasupplicant package installed
[04:56] <saivann> Humm, I think that the problem here is clearly that network starts without WPA support, so the question is : What does start WPA support in Ubuntu? NM?
[04:56] <Burgundavia> likely that for dynamic stuff
[04:57] <Burgundavia> you can specify a wpa password in your /e/n/i file
[04:57] <ScottK> saivann: On a desktop it's network-manager.
[04:57] <ScottK> Nothing to do with the if.up and if.down stuff.
[04:58] <saivann> ScottK : so we must assume that NM starts the WPA support far after network has been started, right?
[04:59] <mr-russ> that's what I thought, if you disable your wireless and restart it, wpasupplicant appears to get a new PID.
[04:59] <ScottK> I'm not sure of the sequence, but if you are looking at /etc/init.d/network you are barking up the wrong tree.  Network-manager starts the network too.
[05:00] <ScottK> IIRC network-manager uses wpasupplicant for some of the heavy lifting.
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154154 in ubuntu "Distribution Updgrade failure upgrading 7.04->7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154154
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154155 in ubuntu "CD and USB Drives don't show up in shell without first viewing in dolphin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154155
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154157 in ubuntu "Problem during upgrade - "report this bug' button appeared" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154157
[05:01] <saivann> ScottK : The network itself isn't started during the boot sequence? NM isn't just a tool to manage that network once it has been started through the init process?
[05:02] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure not.
[05:02] <saivann> ScottK : When does NM start during the boot sequence?
[05:03] <mr-russ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/154154 <- This is what I'd call mirror overload
[05:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 154154 in ubuntu "Distribution Updgrade failure upgrading 7.04->7.10" [Undecided,New]
[05:03] <ScottK> Once during Gutsy development when network-manager went through one if it's "I'm not going to work on your laptop" phases, I used /etc/init.d/networking start and later when network-manger was healthy again, I ended up getting two IP addresses assigned to one NIC.
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154158 in ubuntu "Update Manager problem going to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154158
[05:06] <saivann> ScottK : Weird, you don't think that network-manager and /etc/init.d/networking does use the same network components? .. I don't get it..
[05:06] <ScottK> saivann: I'm not an expert. It was clearly a bug.  Network-manager failed to notice the network was already up.
[05:07] <saivann> ScottK : Thanks for this information, I will need to have a better understanding of network-manager
[05:09] <saivann> ScottK : The bug that we are talking about #53387 is about network-admin and not network-manager ( which works perfectly with WPA ). When using network-manager to configure WPA, the network doesn't work after a reboot
[05:09] <ScottK> Bug #53387
[05:10] <saivann> Yep
[05:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53387 in wpasupplicant "Boot order problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53387
[05:10]  * ScottK waits for the bot.
[05:10]  * mr-russ has to go.
[05:10] <saivann> mr-russ : thanks for your help on this!
[05:11] <mr-russ> np.  I hope I actually helped.
[05:11] <saivann> mr-russ : yes, it helped!
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154159 in gnome-user-docs (main) "during installation of ubuntu 7.10 upgrade gmome user guide could not be installed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154159
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154160 in bugzilla (universe) "Bugzilla fails install when mysql has password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154160
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154161 in ubuntu "Cannot install Wine Emulator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154161
[05:11] <ScottK> Sorry.  Not really my area of expertise.
[05:11] <saivann> ScottK : Thanks anyway for the informations you gave to me :)
[05:12] <mr-russ> saivann: It might be worth summarizing what you've discovered today and adding a comment to the bug.
[05:13] <saivann> mr-russ : I will do this, but I will investigate the problem more deeply before
[05:13] <saivann> deeper* Sorry I'm french :)
[05:14] <mr-russ> English is my only language and it isn't that great either :(
[05:14] <mr-russ> bye for now anyway.
[05:14] <saivann> hehe, thanks, @++
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154162 in ubuntu "GUI does not display with accelerated graphics" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154162
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #154163 in ubuntu "Asus Z84FM sound lost with 7.04 -> 7.10 Upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154163
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154164 in mozilla-firefox (main) "firefox hangs without certain packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154164
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154165 in ubuntu "Upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 fails on PowerPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154165
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154168 in bug-buddy (main) "package bug-buddy 2.18.1-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154168
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154169 in planner (main) "package planner 0.14.2-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154169
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154170 in ubufox (main) "package ubufox 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154170
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154171 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 failed to upgrade my 7.04 system." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154171
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154167 in apturl (main) "package apturl 0.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154167
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154172 in ubuntu "X goes black on the PepperPad3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154172
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154174 in debian-installer (main) "Installer cannot configure wireless on Toshiba Satellite 4600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154174
[06:18] <ubotu> New bug: #154176 in ubuntu "Xinerama incorrectly 'clones' rather than 'rightof'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154176
[06:18] <ubotu> New bug: #154177 in update-manager (main) "Failed kubuntu upgrade through proxy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154177
[06:18] <ubotu> New bug: #154178 in googleearth-package (multiverse) "package has invalid depends field" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154178
[06:18] <ubotu> New bug: #154180 in update-manager (main) "Failed to upgrade apt-file from Feisty to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154180
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154189 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade to 7.10 fails to fetch main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154189
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154190 in update-manager (main) ""We're sorry, the upgrade tool crashed."" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154190
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154191 in ubuntu "upgrade failed   /?var/log/dist-upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154191
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154192 in knetworkmanager (main) "[gutsy] kNetworkManager: after 3.5.8 upgrade kopete crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154192
[06:55] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154193 in ubuntu "Bluetooth mouse lost during 7.04->7.10 upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154193
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154195 in ubuntu "Gutsy cdromupgrade script fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154195
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154198 in release-upgrader-apt (main) "distribution upgrade tool waits for user input indefinitely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154198
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154199 in gforge (universe) "gforge install/remove failure loop w/ broken dpkg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154199
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154201 in evolution (main) "Messages which have been opened in Outlook or OWA do not appear in Evolution Inbox - regression" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154201
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154202 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 and SATA HDD via SATA RAID controller INITIO inic162x" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154202
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154203 in ubuntu "I can't upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154203
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154205 in emacs22 (main) "Byte-compilation for emacs22 failed!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154205
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154207 in ubuntu "Wired internet connection does not start at boot." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154207
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154208 in ubuntu "Can't connect to Wi-Fi with WPA Enterprise encryption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154208
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154210 in compiz (main) "Massive memory leak in compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154210
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154211 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Kubuntu ( Gutsy ) KDE Menu Improperly Formatted - Default Install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154211
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154212 in totem (main) "Still no sound on UBUNTU 7.10  (Targa Traveller 1577 X2 )" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154212
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154213 in update-manager (main) "version upgrade available after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154213
[07:25] <mattb0611> wow, that is one eloquent name
[07:30] <thekorn> good morning
[07:40] <dholbach> !ops
[07:40] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[07:51] <mattb0611> hello
[07:53] <mattb0611> you know, watching all the support requests come through tonight, I almost wonder if it isn't -better- to run a slightly-possibly-maybe unstable ubuntu beta or RC and not be lost amongst the flood of support requests
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154214 in restricted-manager (restricted) "[gutsy] restricted-manager fails to start after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154214
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154215 in ubuntu "gnome no window manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154215
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154216 in ubuntu "xubuntu no volume control" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154216
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154218 in amarok (main) "amarok mp3 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154218
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154220 in gnunet-qt (universe) "gnunet-gtk and gnunet-qt should depend on gnunet" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154220
[07:53] <ubotu> New bug: #154221 in adept (main) "update manager tells the user there's an upgrade but doesn't continue upgrading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154221
[07:54] <ubotu> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
[07:54] <ubotu> New bug: #154222 in network-manager (main) "package network-manager 0.6.5-0ubuntu16 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154222
[07:55] <dholbach> mattb0611: why?
[07:58] <mattb0611> well, I joined #ubuntu to help out if I could, but I'm having a hard time following anything, since people looking for help post so frequently
[07:58] <mattb0611> however, a week ago, it was much more manageable
[07:59] <dholbach> since then bugs have been fixed, not the other way around :)
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154224 in openoffice.org (main) "[Gutsy] Showstopper crashes in Writer, Calc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154224
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154225 in firefox (main) "Firefox freezes, can't do a thing but close Firefox and start again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154225
[08:01] <thekorn> hye dholbach
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154223 in file-roller (main) "trying to archive a link to a FTP or Drive creates unintuitive error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154223
[08:02] <thekorn> dholbach, I slightly changed the patch in bug 153846
[08:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153846 in python-launchpad-bugs "bug.subsribers: also parse 'also notified' and 'from duplicates'" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153846
[08:04] <dholbach> thekorn: the patch looks good from what I can see and looks like a clean fix, but maybe we should have a minimal fix for gutsy-updates and a different one for hardy? does that make sense?
[08:07] <thekorn> dholbach, aha ok, sounds good,
[08:07] <thekorn> I think the one in comment 1 is for -updates,
[08:08] <thekorn> and the second one goes into hardy
[08:11] <dholbach> thekorn: rock on
[08:11]  * dholbach hugs thekorn
[08:12]  * thekorn hugs dholbach
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154229 in synaptic (main) "synaptic crashes when installing some packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154229
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154230 in ubuntu "[Gutsy] The slider of the volume applet is sometimes unusable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154230
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154232 in ubuntu "k/ubuntu AMD64 incorrect default resolution with belinea 106030 & nvidia GF7300GT" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154232
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154234 in usplash (main) "build-depend on libgd-dev " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154234
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154235 in gnome-panel (main) "Volume control applet crashes in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154235
[09:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154236 in ubuntu "kubuntu update tool" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154236
[09:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154237 in gnome-panel (main) "L'espace de travaille ne change pas." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154237
[09:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154238 in gmp (main) "undefined external" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154238
[09:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154239 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashes on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154239
[09:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154240 in compiz (main) "no eazy way to install compiz in kubuntu 7.10 am64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154240
[09:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154241 in langpack-locales (main) "package locales 2.6.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154241
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154242 in ubuntu "Harddisk non détecté (le problème semble venir du controller SATA)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154242
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154243 in kopete (main) "Kopete Crashes When starting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154243
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154244 in ubuntu "Program windows seem to seizure in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154244
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154245 in ubuntu "Finding updates upon install is irritating!!!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154245
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154246 in ubuntu "Update manager cannot upgrade to 7.10 from 7.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154246
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154247 in software-properties (main) "Lithuania is missing in Software Sources server selection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154247
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154248 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager prevents logout screen being displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154248
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154249 in ubuntu "number of workspaces not available in official release of gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154249
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154250 in rarian (main) "Please sync rarian 0.6.0-1 to Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154250
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154252 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager fails to connect to network using dwl-g650+ (kubuntu 7.10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154252
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154251 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 Live CD comes up with no display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154251
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154253 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.81 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /tmp/tmppyNRYB/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /tmp/tmppyNRYB/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154253
[10:03] <JimQode> Anyone from ubuntu server team here? I think this bug is important: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/87063 . Could someone set an importance value?
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154254 in ubuntu "NetworkManager causes high CPU-usage after suspend " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154254
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154255 in ubuntu "Lenovo ThinkPad T60 cant boot from 7.10 desktop-cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154255
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154256 in gnome-specimen (universe) "Sync gnome-specimen (0.3.1-1) from Debian into Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154256
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154257 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade Tool crashed - from 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154257
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154258 in linux-meta (main) "AVM - Wlanstick (ID 057c:6201 AVM GmbH) on Gutsy (Kernel 2.6.22.all) not work. fwlanusb. driver get no ip-Adress, ndiswraller chrashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154258
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154260 in update-manager (main) "Failed to fetch Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154260
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154261 in ubuntu "[gutsy release] Desktop Effects Can't be enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154261
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154263 in ubuntu "compiz doesn't show decorations " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154263
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154264 in ubuntu "i386 kernel turns default after server upgrade to gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154264
[10:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 87063 in php5 "[needs-packaging] Please package php5-mssql" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:17] <ubotu> New bug: #154265 in ubuntu "uk keyboard setting not applied after install (kubuntu 7.10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154265
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154267 in ubuntu "infinite cycle when trying to configure webcam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154267
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154270 in human-cursors-theme (main) "please remove human-cursors-theme" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154270
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154271 in xen-3.1 (main) "xenU sending too big packets on ubuntu 7.10 "gutsy"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154271
[10:44] <thekorn> dholbach, I send a mail to the bughelper ML but used the wrong email adress, could you please moderate it?
[10:45] <dholbach> thekorn: sure
[10:45] <thekorn> thanks
[10:48] <dholbach> thekorn: done
[10:55] <Label> Is there any issue with fonts?
[10:56] <Label> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580557
[11:03] <ralph__> Hi, bug #8497 now has 23 duplicates, and when it bites it results in a non-bootable machine.  It looks like a tricky one to fix but the importance is still Medium.  Who should I ask to get this reconsidered?
[11:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154269 in update-manager (main) "update manager continues to offer Distribution Upgrade after clean install of new distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154269
[11:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154272 in update-manager (main) "Visual indication when final release comes out" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154272
[11:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154273 in ubuntu "Windows frequently resize themselves (incorrect notion of fullscreen?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154273
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154275 in kde-systemsettings (main) "systemsettings crashed when printer icon was clicked" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154275
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154277 in cupsys (main) "cups serial backend failed with Permission denied" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154277
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154278 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade Tool Crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154278
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154280 in ubuntu "MD5Sum Mismatch when upgrading" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154280
[11:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 8497 in grub "grub guessed BIOS disk order incorrectly" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8497
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #154282 in xchat-gnome (main) "Redraw problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154282
[11:19] <ralph__> OK, I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance and bug #8497 should clearly be at least High: "Has a severe impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users" and "Makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users".  So, who changes it?
[11:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 8497 in grub "grub guessed BIOS disk order incorrectly" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8497
[11:27] <ralph__> OK, giving up on IRC.  Going to comment the bug one last time.
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154284 in matplotlib (universe) "faulty and fragile version detection for ghostscript" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154284
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154285 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade from 7.10 to final is proposed and fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154285
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154287 in gnome-panel (main) "Tooltip always shows Desk 1 as active Desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154287
[11:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154289 in ubuntu "desktop effects incorrectly claim to not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154289
[11:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154290 in compiz (main) "3D Games not fullscreen after upgrade to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154290
[11:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154291 in ubuntu "Assigning shortcut for Move_to_workspace_1,2,3,4 etc doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154291
[11:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154292 in linux-meta (main) "CPU frequency scaling broken on Pentium M" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154292
[11:53]  * persia thinks ubotu should be exempt from flood rules.
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154296 in ubuntu "Giutsy doesn't recognize laptop multimedia keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154296
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #154300 in ubuntu "Update form 7.04 to 7.10 with alternate cd rom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154300
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154297 in ubuntu "upgrade from feisty 7.04 to gutsy 7.10 crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154297
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154298 in ubuntu "Sometimes mouse moves only up and down" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154298
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154299 in ubuntu "Dell Inspiron 1520 Function Keys LCD Brightness No Longer Work in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154299
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154301 in apt (main) "Installer creates two identical partner sources in Third-Party Software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154301
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154302 in pidgin (main) "no connection in pidgin, unless started by root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154302
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154303 in qtemu (universe) "qtemu not installed into K menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154303
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154304 in update-manager (main) "in xubuntu: update-manager crash wile try to download upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154304
[12:39] <ubotu> New bug: #154305 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "missing dependencies for networking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154305
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154306 in gdebi (main) "gdebi very slow - high memory usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154306
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154307 in sgt-puzzles (universe) "Help fails to launch successfully" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154307
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154308 in ubuntu "Gnome main menu editor won't start in gutsy." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154308
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154309 in ubuntu "ubuntu locks up on connection to wireless" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154309
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154310 in gnome-panel (main) "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Error del flujo interno de datos." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154310
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154311 in gnome-media (main) "vumeter installs but requires esd to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154311
[12:51] <adefjord> I'm having some trouble with 7.10 on my laptop, not sure if I should file this as a bug... When I unplug the power, the screen darkens to almost black (even though I've set it to stay at 100%) and I can't get it any brighter. Otherwise, the brightness control buttons work fine, just not when on battery. Thinks worked perfectly in 7.04...
[12:52] <persia> adefjord: That sounds like a bug to me.  You might search a bit first, as it's not clear what is to blame (at least to me).
[12:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154286 in libgphoto2 (main) "print-camera-list crashed with SIGSEGV in gpi_enum_to_string()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154286
[12:54] <adefjord> Ok... Looking through some acpi/kernel bug reports right now, trying to find something...
[12:55] <ScottK> I'd try searching on your laptop's brand or model number and then based on the video adapter.
[12:57] <ubotu> New bug: #154313 in ubuntu "gutsy doesn't like native resolution (fglrx)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154313
[12:57] <dholbach> MOTU meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[13:05] <ramvi> How can I find a mis spelled word in launchpad? Its in gnome-volume-properties
[13:05] <ramvi> Its nasty. It starts with <p> and ends with </b>. so you can see the commands. Its been there forever. Though someone would fix it
[13:06] <ramvi> but that hasnt happened. So now Im taking the matter in my own hands
[13:06] <adefjord> Well, seems like simply removing the video kernel module makes it work just like it did in Feisty. Nice!
[13:07] <ScottK> adefjord: Please document that in a bug if it's not already.
[13:15] <adefjord> ScottK: It was documented, that's how I found it ;)
[13:16] <ScottK> adefjord: OK.  Just checking.
[13:19] <ramvi> No, no one?
[13:27] <ubotu> New bug: #154274 in ubuntu-website "Should reference Debian visibly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154274
[13:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154323 in language-pack-gnome-en (main) "7.04 TO 7.10 upgrade "tzdata" failed to install or upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154323
[13:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154329 in ubuntu "AbiWord in Xubuntu 7.10 core dumped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154329
[13:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154331 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager 1:0.81 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /tmp/tmpn1MGm9/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /tmp/tmpn1MGm9/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /tmp/tmpn1MGm9/backports/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154331
[13:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154335 in langpack-locales (main) "tzdata would not install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154335
[13:28] <ubotu> New bug: #154336 in util-linux (main) "package util-linux 2.13-8ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154336
[13:29] <ubotu> New bug: #154333 in update-manager (main) "Version Upgrade doesn't happen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154333
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154337 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "tomcat5.5-admin's web apps are not active" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154337
[13:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154338 in ubuntu "gnome-screensaver indicates bad keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154338
[13:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154340 in gnome-media (main) "Wrong Norwegian translation in gnome-volume-properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154340
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154342 in ubuntu "Resume no works after suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154342
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154343 in ubuntu "Computer locks up randomly during certain programs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154343
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154345 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "shutdown applet confuses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154345
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154348 in mplayer (multiverse) "Mplayer-plugin's right-mouse-menu far too large." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154348
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154356 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "package sun-java5-plugin 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154356
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154357 in language-pack-en-base (main) "package language-pack-en-base 1:7.10+20071012 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154357
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154358 in ubuntu "need to add repository before restricted graphics drivers " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154358
[14:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154359 in langpack-locales (main) "package locales 2.6.1-1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154359
[14:56] <dholbach> MOTU Q&A session in 2 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:02] <ubotu> New bug: #152295 in gparted "gparted french language" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152295
[15:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154380 in xorg (main) "Screen resolution does not change in live cd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154380
[15:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154377 in ubuntu "Xubuntu upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy fails if screensaver turns on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154377
[15:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154378 in otrs2 (universe) "During upgrade to Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154378
[15:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154379 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails on dist-upgrade 7.04 to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154379
[15:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154382 in ubuntu "No graphical way to set default resolution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154382
[15:03] <ubotu> New bug: #154385 in system-config-printer (main) "samba printers don't show in smb browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154385
[15:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154381 in deskbar-applet (main) "New upstream version 2.20.1" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154381
[15:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154383 in cdrom-detect (main) "ATAPI DVD-ROM not detected in system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154383
[15:04] <ubotu> New bug: #154386 in ubuntu "Dual head not working on nvidia GeForce 7600 GS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154386
[15:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154391 in gimp (main) "[gimp] missing language pack dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154391
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154392 in ubuntu "cryptdisks problem, kernel does not include aes module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154392
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154393 in firefox (main) "[Firefox] security update release <IP_ADDRESS> available from upstream" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154393
[15:06] <ubotu> New bug: #154394 in language-pack-gnome-en-base (main) "package language-pack-gnome-en-base 1:7.10+20071012 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154394
[15:07] <ubotu> New bug: #154395 in openoffice.org (main) "Port OpenOffice 2.3 to Feisty 64-bit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154395
[15:07] <ubotu> New bug: #154396 in nano (main) "nano doesnt work on livecd rescue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154396
[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #154397 in ubuntu "Some windows are blank when visual effects active" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154397
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154399 in util-linux (main) "mount(8) man page refers to deprec. package nfs-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154399
[15:23] <persia> Would anyone running i386 and fgrlx be willing to verify the closure of but #121516?
[15:24] <persia> Umm.. bug #121516
[15:35] <bddebian> Boo
[15:40] <persia> bddebian: You don't happen to be using fgrlx, do you?
[15:42] <bddebian> No, sorry
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154401 in ubuntu "gnome keyboard layout question at each login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154401
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154402 in adept (main) "Adept don't work if /user is on NFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154402
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154403 in update-manager (main) "Slooooww server speeds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154403
[15:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121516 in torcs "fglrx causes Torcs to crash when races end" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121516
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154404 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade 7.04 - 7.10 Errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154404
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154405 in ubuntu "After upgrading to Gutsy, I get no sound and double clicking the audio control icon gives "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found". I have a Toshiba laptop and I fixed the sound previously on Feisty by reinstalling the alsa driver but this seems not to solve the problem anymore. Any Suggestions?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154405
[15:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154407 in ubuntu "[gutsy] kde rotate desktop no longer correct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154407
[15:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154406 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet doesn't apper in the gnome bar, but it is running" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154406
[15:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154408 in tracker (main) "Tracker won't search in my indexed files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154408
[15:52] <ubotu> New bug: #154409 in ubuntu "stringi desktop search stops accepting input when new results display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154409
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154411 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "2.6.22-14 Sound does not work on iMac (Intel first Gen) REGRESSION" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154411
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154410 in ubuntu "mounting partitions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154410
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154412 in ubuntu "1680*1050 resolution not show up on monitor correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154412
[16:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154414 in ubuntu "USB ADSL Modem Manager doesn't work on Gutsy Gibbon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154414
[16:23] <qense> A while ago I triaged bug #104395, but there hasn't be done anything. Did I do something wrong? Do I have to assign someone?
[16:23] <qense> Bug #104395
[16:24] <qense> 104395
[16:24] <qense> #104395
[16:24] <qense> weird, ubotu doesnt post the link
[16:24] <Jazzva> bug 104395
[16:24] <Jazzva> ...heh
[16:25] <qense> well, the link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/104395
[16:25] <qense> it was a scroll issue, and I could easily confirm it, but no one did anything with the report. What did I do wrong?
[16:27] <pedro_> qense, that looks more like a wishlist instead of a bug
[16:27] <qense> but I can't set premissions yet, I first need to apply to ubuntu-qa
[16:27] <pedro_> btw, i found rather difficult to scroll while you're drawing
[16:28] <qense> you're right, it's a wishlist
[16:28] <qense> what should i do witht he report? let someone else finish it?
[16:29] <pedro_> qense, let's search upstream if we can find some report related to it
[16:29] <pedro_> qense, upstream in this case is bugzilla.gnome.org
[16:30] <persia> qense: it looks well triaged at this point.  If you want to take it further, you would need to try to determine how nautilus is getting the events, and why it doesn't work.  If you want to do that, please do so, and push to triaged.  If not, leaving it for someone else is OK.  In either case, checking upstream is good.
[16:33] <qense> ok, thank you for your help, I'll check upstream and leave it for someone else :) maybe later I will triage bugs further
[16:34] <qense> now I've got to move another computer to upstairs :)
[16:34] <pedro_> qense, if you're having further questions just ask here ;-)
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #154416 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "hfsplus unlink problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154416
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #154418 in fretsonfire (universe) "The repository version is much slower than the website one" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154418
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #154419 in dmraid (universe) "installing dmraid causes non-boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154419
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #154420 in thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird lost folders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154420
[16:38] <ubotu> New bug: #154421 in gnome-terminal (main) "cant load firmware in terminal" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154421
[16:39] <persia> ubotu: Welcome back!
[16:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104395 in nautilus "Nautilus won't allow scrolling with mousewheel while dragging a file" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104395
[16:44] <qense> I've found the gnome.org equivalent of bug #104395 on gnome's bugzilla and added it to the bug. Should I also post a reaction with the nautilus link in that bug report?
[16:45] <persia> qense: There's a richer way to pass the information.  Which GNOME bug?
[16:45] <qense> this one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434193
[16:45] <qense> it hasn't been triaged yet
[16:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104395 in nautilus "Nautilus won't allow scrolling with mousewheel while dragging a file" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104395
[16:46] <persia> qense: I see you've added it to the tasks for the bug.  There's no need for a comment: the status will be automatically updated when bugzilla is updated.
[16:47] <ubotu> Gnome bug 434193 in File and Folder Operations "Drag and drop in scrolled windows" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed]
[16:47] <qense> persia: also not at the gnome bugzilla?
[16:48] <pedro_> qense, if you want to, you can add a comment there with a link to the LP report
[16:48] <persia> You could confirm upstream, but they tend to prefer that there has been a little more investigation before getting confirmation.  If you want to do this, you might look at the GNOME Bugzilla triage guidelines to make sure before taking action.
[16:48] <ubotu> New bug: #154438 in firefox (main) "Mouse-over pop-up labels disappear on upgrading to Gutsy." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154438
[16:48] <ubotu> New bug: #154439 in ubuntu "Gutsy final Livecd error/fails on modprobe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154439
[16:48] <ubotu> New bug: #154440 in mutt (main) "Please sync mutt 1.5.16-3  (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154440
[16:48] <persia> pedro_: Do you think a comment to launchpad will help in this case?  I'm not sure that there's sufficient additional information in launchpad to be interesting upstream (although it may represent some confirmation).
[16:49] <pedro_> persia, it would help, yes.
[16:49]  * persia defers to pedro_
[16:50] <pedro_> the "there's another person than the reporter asking for this feature" would work in thie case
[16:50] <pedro_> so probably adding a comment there would work, yes.
[16:50] <pedro_> s/thie/this
[16:51] <qense> ok, I've added a comment
[16:51] <ubotu> New bug: #131679 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131679
[16:52] <ubotu> New bug: #131600 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131600
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154444 in ubufox (main) "Cannot uninstall ubufox extensions from Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154444
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154445 in libbonoboui (main) "package libbonoboui2-0 2.18.0-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154445
[16:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154443 in restricted-manager (restricted) "Boot splash screen is garbled at shutdown in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154443
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #140501 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_destroy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140501
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #140684 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in _nv000044gl()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140684
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #154446 in gapcmon (universe) "gapcmon "close" only minimizes window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154446
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #154447 in ubuntu "Login window theme chooser no longer accepts tar.bz2 files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154447
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #154448 in update-manager (main) "A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154448
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #154449 in nautilus (main) "Open office text docs(.odt) icon thumbnail has no background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154449
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #154453 in compiz (main) "Intel i950 external monitor + compiz window size problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154453
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #146251 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_check()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146251
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #146279 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in groupDrawTabAnimation()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146279
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #146291 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_surface_destroy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146291
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154454 in ubuntu "Upgrade Manager fails on gutsy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154454
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154455 in ubuntu "second workspace has no desktop icons or panels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154455
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154456 in ubuntu "[Gutsy]flashing screen after logging on kdm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154456
[17:47] <ubotu> New bug: #154462 in update-manager (main) "upgrade to gutsy tzdata" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154462
[17:47] <ubotu> New bug: #154464 in evolution-exchange (main) "Evolution-exchange hangs when replying to e-mail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154464
[17:47] <ubotu> New bug: #154465 in gnash (universe) "Glitchy animations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154465
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154469 in base-installer (main) "vfat and ntfs partitions checked on every boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154469
[17:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154470 in adept (main) "non-existent /home/ crashes upgrade of Kubuntu 7.04 -> 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154470
[17:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154466 in kopete (main) "kopete_latexconvert.sh does not work with dash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154466
[17:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154468 in amsn (universe) "For full functionality of aMSN-0.97-RC1 one package is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154468
[17:55] <maini10> Hello, what is the correct behaviour triaging bugs reported by autopkgtest such as 152043?
[17:56] <persia> bug #152043
[17:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152043 in adept "autopkgtest gutsy adept: erroneous package!" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152043
[17:56] <Hobbsee> leave it for the package mainatinaer, i think
[17:56] <Hobbsee> or submit a patch
[17:56] <Hobbsee> but at this point, wait until the mass syncs adn merges go thru
[17:56] <maini10> Ok thanks Hobbsee
[17:57] <persia> maini10: In addition to either of the suggestions made by Hobbsee, if you want to dig into the rules file, and figure out the issue, but have trouble making a patch, a shorter description of the problem might be helpful.
[17:58] <ubotu> New bug: #154471 in evolution (main) "Buscar contacto en Contactos cualquier contacto contiene" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154471
[18:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154472 in conduit (universe) "Conduit's menu item is not HIG-compliant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154472
[18:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154473 in ubuntu "Booting take long time trying too resume  a ghost session at every boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154473
[18:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154474 in ubuntu "After installing Kubuntu 7.10 on Acer Extensa 5513NWLMi wifi chipset Intel 3945ABG does not work." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154474
[18:03]  * Hobbsee smells a "linux-image-generic is not installed" error
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154475 in ekiga (main) "error opening video device hp pavilion webcam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154475
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154476 in ubuntu "Audio system protection from application failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154476
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154477 in ubuntu "Audio system protection from application failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154477
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154479 in kdepim (main) "kdepim still in version 3.5.7 while KDE 3.5.8 has already been released and (apparently only partly) packaged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154479
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154480 in ubuntu "Distro update tool" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154480
[18:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154482 in grub (main) "grub-disk not upgradable due to missing dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154482
[18:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154483 in gnome-network (universe) "[gutsy] Network-Admin does not reload the networking service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154483
[18:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154484 in ubuntu "Dbus exiting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154484
[18:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154485 in update-manager (main) "fiesty to gutsy - kubuntu update from cdrom fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154485
[18:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154486 in ubuntu "On restart/shutdown dialog incorrectly warns of other opened sessions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154486
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154487 in apt-proxy (universe) "apt-proxy error 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'backend'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154487
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154488 in alacarte (main) "[gutsy] Preferences dialog in alacarte is opening behind the main window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154488
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154489 in gnomad2 (universe) "[gnomad2] crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154489
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154491 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org base crashes when loading robust form" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154491
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154492 in ubuntu "After instalation of Kubuntu 7.10 on Acer Extensa 5513NWLMi, the control ou sound volume using jey shortcut Fn + arrow up/down (Acer standart, Acer Aspire with Kubuntu 7.04 it worked automatically without any problem)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154492
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154493 in adept (main) "Distribution Upgrade fails to complete -- Cannot allocate memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154493
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154494 in apt-proxy (universe) "twisted.protocols.telnet is deprecated." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154494
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154498 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome power manager's screen brightness control is glitchy when running on battery" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154498
[18:38] <house> hello
[18:39] <house> i have a problem
[18:39] <house> with upgrading
[18:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154499 in language-pack-gnome-de (main) "evince: Wrong translation of "properties" entry in file menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154499
[18:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154461 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] TheLastRipper" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154461
[19:22] <ubotu> New bug: #154509 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 AMD64 fails from update-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154509
[19:22] <ubotu> New bug: #154512 in tsclient (main) "Terminal Server Client crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154512
[19:22] <ubotu> New bug: #154514 in ubuntu "display problems after upgrading to gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154514
[19:22] <ubotu> New bug: #154515 in ubuntu "The letter k doesn't work in Gnome" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154515
[19:22] <qense> can someone tell me in what package /ussr/sbin/gdmsetup is/
[19:22] <qense> it is the program used to edit the GDM preferences
[19:22] <qense> like the theme
[19:23] <pedro_> qense, gdm
[19:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154505 in update-manager (main) "problem with the upgrade. My version is kubuntu 7.10, but update-manager performs distribution upgrade that can not be finished in full." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154505
[19:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154506 in ubiquity (main) "Ubutnu LiveCD "Install" icon confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154506
[19:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154508 in ubuntu "Second Release for Gutsy Gibbon ?" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154508
[19:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154511 in ubuntu "Failed to apply change in "Screens and Graphics"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154511
[19:23] <qense>  ok thanks
[19:23] <ubotu> New bug: #154513 in nautilus (main) ""All Files" is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154513
[19:24] <ubotu> New bug: #154501 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "java6 install problem: canadian mirror possibly wrong?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154501
[19:24] <ubotu> New bug: #154502 in partman-md (main) "partitioner crashes with random encryption key." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154502
[19:24] <ubotu> New bug: #154503 in update-manager (main) "Error during update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154503
[19:24] <ubotu> New bug: #154504 in gnome-panel (main) "Gnome-panel hangs and allocates all possible ram." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154504
[19:32] <ubotu> New bug: #154519 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "VPN Authenticating, but not saving username and password for next attempt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154519
[19:32] <ubotu> New bug: #154520 in gnome-themes-extras (universe) "The Nuvola theme has vanished" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154520
[19:33] <ubotu> New bug: #154516 in yelp (main) "Duplicate Printing options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154516
[19:33] <ubotu> New bug: #154517 in gnome-themes (main) "Border around maximized windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154517
[19:33] <ubotu> New bug: #154518 in apt-proxy (universe) "unknown extension for file Translation-en_US.bz2'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154518
[19:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154521 in gimmie (universe) "gimme does not update "People" tab when gettin online/offline any IM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154521
[19:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154523 in fluxbox (universe) "fluxbox does not load menus on right click on 7.10 server install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154523
[19:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154525 in update-manager (main) ""distribution upgrade" continues to be an option after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154525
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154524 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Low data rates with Ralink RT2500 PCI WLAN card" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154524
[19:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154526 in evince (main) "maybe mem leak" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154526
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154095 in apt (main) "No internet removes All all download repositories sources" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154095
[20:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154530 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "apparmor is missing in linux-source-2.6.22" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154530
[20:33] <ubotu> New bug: #154533 in xfce4-goodies (universe) "Several panel items do not appear on the panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154533
[20:33] <ubotu> New bug: #154534 in libmtp (main) "libmtp6 udev file in wrong place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154534
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154536 in libmtp (main) "libpisock9 udev file in wrong place (dup-of: 145534)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154536
[20:36] <ubotu> New bug: #154537 in ubuntu "Gutsy: Screen flicker with intel 855GM video." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154537
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154539 in glade-3 (main) "Glade 3 crashes when costumizing a message dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154539
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154535 in ubuntu "Install Disables Security Updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154535
[20:41] <ubotu> New bug: #154538 in ubuntu "Sound card does not work after gutsy update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154538
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154540 in firefox (main) "JRE 1.7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154540
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154543 in update-manager (main) "getting upgrade prerequisites failed Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-tymop" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154543
[20:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154544 in pilot-link (main) "libpisock9 udev file is in wrong place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154544
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154542 in ubuntu "when setting vga=0x31b or vga=0x318 bootup parametr screen switch to target resolution, but nothing displeyd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154542
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154545 in ubuntu "Italian translation not complete in Gutsy release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154545
[20:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154546 in ubuntu "Add/Remove Applications errors on Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154546
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154547 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "shutdown window appears more than once if you keep pressing the shutdown button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154547
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154548 in ubuntu "GNOME unable to lock file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154548
[21:01] <ubotu> New bug: #154549 in ubuntu "wi-fi connection goes down - reboot is required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154549
[21:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154550 in ubuntu "gutsy installation freezes on scanning the mirror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154550
[21:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154551 in ubuntu "VMware Workstation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154551
[21:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154552 in gparted (main) "gparted crashes after unmounting a partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154552
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #148983 in gnome-session (main) "gnome-session crashed with SIGSEGV in _IceConnectionClosed()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148983
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #154553 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "crash 10 min after start dom0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154553
[21:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154554 in ubuntu "When upgrading from feisty to gusty word "minutes" is doubled on the progress bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154554
[21:21] <ubotu> New bug: #154555 in db4.4 (main) "subversion broken by libdb changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154555
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #154557 in update-manager (main) "Update-manager: 7.10 distribution upgrade from 7.04 stopped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154557
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154559 in ubuntu "main user account password corrupted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154559
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154560 in update-manager (main) "update manager fails at shared-mime-info" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154560
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154563 in gnome-desktop (main) "[feature request] allow dialog-independent "open" shell action" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154563
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154564 in adept (main) "Bug #76983 fix does not work! Feisty to Gutsy upgrade fails @ gpg verification" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154564
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #154565 in ubuntu "kubuntu para na opção lendo cd-rom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154565
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154567 in update-manager (main) "ubuntu 7.04 7.10 upgrade hang" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154567
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #154566 in wine (universe) "mouse pointer corrupted by wine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154566
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154570 in openssh (main) "package openssh-client 1:4.6p1-5build1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154570
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #154571 in banshee (universe) "segfault after playing a few songs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154571
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154568 in ubuntu "no sound intel hda " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154568
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154569 in ubuntu "Wireless Conceptronic C54RC stops working after upgrade to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154569
[22:00] <SveinT> Hi, I submitted a bug some days ago and I'm just trying to figure out how things work. I tried to provide as much info as possible and I don't know what more I can give. It's been some days and it's status is still new. Is there anything I can/should do, or should I just wait and someone will eventually sometime look at it?
[22:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154572 in update-manager (main) "Update Manager thinks I Need to update version from 7.10 to 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154572
[22:00] <ubotu> New bug: #154573 in ubuntu-meta (main) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.79 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154573
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154574 in ubuntu "Mise en veille=freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154574
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154575 in nautilus (main) "adding /home to bookmarks in nautilus bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154575
[22:07] <bdmurray> SveinT: what bug is it?
[22:07] <SveinT> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/153096
[22:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153096 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Won't find my 2nd HD, "Failed to set xfermode" ATA errors" [Undecided,New]
[22:07] <SveinT> ah, you've looked at it before, thanks :)
[22:09] <bdmurray> And it still works today if you switch to 2.6.20?
[22:10] <SveinT> I haven't tried that to tell the truth. It worked just before switching/upgrading so I assumed as much
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154576 in update-manager (main) "could not calculate the upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154576
[22:11] <SveinT> but I have to try feisty then, I can't use older kernel with gutsy?
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154577 in ubuntu "After upgrading from feisty to gutsy inserting USB Wireless adapter hangs gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154577
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154578 in wmii (universe) "WMII crashes when moving windows." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154578
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154579 in ubuntu "GDM crashed after relogin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154579
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154580 in ubuntu "Apercus ecran de veille" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154580
[22:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154581 in knetworkmanager (main) "network-manager-kde say 'no active devices'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154581
[22:12] <bdmurray> SveinT: I'm really not familiar with the ata error messages but some of it almost looks like a hardware problem
[22:12] <bdmurray> That's why I ask
[22:12] <SveinT> I see
[22:13] <bdmurray> Are all on the drives on the same controller?
[22:13] <SveinT> yes, but one of them use PATA->SATA converter...but it worked fine like that when I used feisty. I am in Vista now and no problems at all
[22:13] <SveinT> (the disk in question use PATA->SATA converter)
[22:16] <SveinT> but I really should test again to make sure I think
[22:16] <SveinT> got a 7.04 disc here so I'll try that first
[22:17] <bdmurray> Adding information about the make and model of that controller would be helpful too
[22:17] <SveinT> hmm..I think that's listed in the hardware print
[22:18] <SveinT> SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller
[22:18] <bdmurray> okay, I wasn't seeing it right away
[22:18] <SveinT> yeah, good point
[22:18] <SveinT> will change description
[22:23] <SveinT_> let's see...
[22:25] <SveinT_> LiveCD booted without any warnings so I think it's ok. LiveCD Gutsy gives my loads of warnings so...
[22:25] <SveinT_> (I tried 7.04 now)
[22:27] <SveinT_> Yep, I can access the disk and use files on it on feisty.
[22:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154584 in update-manager (main) "Your system is up-to-date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154584
[22:31] <SveinT_> so, I guess I just wait and hope that someone will look at it? or is there more I can do?
[22:32] <ubotu> New bug: #154582 in ubuntu "redemarage > pc qui tourne dans le vide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154582
[22:32] <ubotu> New bug: #154583 in ubuntu "suppor des langues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154583
[22:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154585 in ubuntu "serpentine crashes from GConf-related error on start-up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154585
[22:36] <bdmurray> SveinT_: I'll bring it to the attention of the kernel bug person
[22:37] <SveinT_> ok, thanks a lot!
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154586 in ubuntu "ATI Driver <IP_ADDRESS> Opensource Gets Black Screen on Radeon 9600 RV350" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154586
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154588 in libgtk2-perl (main) "Built for Gtk2 2.10.9, running with 2.12.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154588
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154589 in bluez-utils (main) "Live CD 7.10 stalls at bluetooth init" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154589
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154591 in ubuntu "7.10 live cd does not boot, the error: udevd-event[2292]: modprobe abnormal exit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154591
[22:45] <ubotu> New bug: #154592 in ubuntu "[Xubuntu Gutsy] Error inserting battery on desktop pc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154592
[22:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154594 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus ignores --geometry argument" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154594
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154590 in update-manager (main) "Change group right during updrage to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154590
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154593 in ubuntu "apt:// protocol, bug with multiple programs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154593
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154595 in lvm2 (main) "package lvm2 2.02.26-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154595
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154596 in ubuntu "No window decorations using compiz fusion after creating new user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154596
[22:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154597 in ubuntu "Error while switching to another desktop after using windows server 2003 in virtualbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154597
[23:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154598 in kaffeine-mozilla (universe) "kaffeine-mozilla does not work in firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154598
[23:02] <ubotu> New bug: #154599 in human-theme (main) "Human theme on xubuntu not working properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154599
[23:04] <rbs-tito> Hi guys, I've foud a bug in Gutsy. Usplash doesn't appear on this graphics card
[23:05] <ubotu> New bug: #154600 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashes on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154600
[23:06] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: Did you report it?
[23:06] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: I think it might be the same as bug 153470 but i'm not entirely sure
[23:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 153470 in ubuntu "Graphics corruption in 7.10 RC LiveCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153470
[23:08] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: do you have the same video card?
[23:08] <rbs-tito> radeon xpress 200m on a laptop
[23:08] <rbs-tito> everything works, i just get a black screen instead of usplash
[23:09] <rbs-tito> and it takes forever to load
[23:10] <bdmurray> but you don't have to boot into safe graphics mode?
[23:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154601 in ubuntu "Human theme on xubuntu gutsy not working properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154601
[23:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154602 in coreutils (main) "incorrect cp(1)  behaviour upon "mkdir foo; cp -r foo foo"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154602
[23:11] <ubotu> New bug: #154603 in evolution (main) "Novell groupwise soap sends e-mails with iso 8859-9 locale when UTF-8 is set (Polish language)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154603
[23:12] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: n
[23:12] <rbs-tito> *no
[23:12] <rbs-tito> I just get  a blank screen when usplash should be there
[23:15] <bdmurray> that sounds familiar I'm looking
[23:16] <ubotu> New bug: #154607 in update-manager (main) "adep-manager offers upgrade to gutsy after upgrade already done" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154607
[23:17] <bdmurray> maybe bug 150930?
[23:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 150930 in ubiquity "Black screen, and bad usplash.conf" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150930
[23:17] <bdmurray> Is yours an installed system?
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #154614 in gnome-panel (main) "united states sourcemirros.org gustsy download doesnt work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154614
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154604 in ubuntu "host -C segfaults" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154604
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154610 in compiz (main) "Compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154610
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154611 in ubuntu "shutdown menu and the 3d desktop effect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154611
[23:31] <ubotu> New bug: #154613 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "Java can no longer get the full list of supported display modes in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154613
[23:35] <ubotu> New bug: #154612 in acpi (main) "Asus Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.30, unsupported model V1S" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154612
[23:37] <rbs-tito> Installed system? Yeah
[23:37] <rbs-tito> It didn't work on the live CD either though
[23:38] <rbs-tito> Brb!
[23:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154615 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Hard freeze using v4lctl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154615
[23:40] <ubotu> New bug: #154616 in lintian (main) "A .deb is built using bz2 compression using debuild and the version of lintian with gutsy doesn't recognize that as valid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154616
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154617 in soundconverter (universe) "[SoundConverter] required gstreamer element 'decodebin' not found." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154617
[23:50] <ubotu> New bug: #154618 in ubuntu "displayconfig-gtk error on boot up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154618
[23:56] <ubotu> New bug: #154621 in ubuntu "Kubuntu shortcuts: switch to next keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154621


[15:22] <fta> micahg, you have a "quota exceeded" on one of your mbox
[15:22] <micahg> fta: ugh, thanks
[15:22] <fta> micahg, foss@
[15:23] <fta> micahg, bug 781822
[15:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 781822 in chromium-browser "11.0.696.65 -> 11.0.696.68" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781822
[15:26] <micahg> fta: ACK, thanks
[15:28] <fta> micahg, also, with ch12, we can drop -inspector, it's empty
[15:28] <micahg> fta: ah, ok, great
[21:01] <BUGabundo> evening


[20:09] <atamira> morning all
[20:17] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:48] <olly> morning
[22:31] <mwhudson> morning


[12:04] <BenC> yeah, I've thought about that too
[12:04] <zul> there was a patch like that by dave jones but i dont think it got anywhere
[12:04] <lifeless> is sourcepackage the right granularity for you ? I think it is
[12:04] <BenC> hopefully for edgy we can get the failsafe kernel with kexec :)
[12:05] <BenC> lifeless: yeah
[12:05] <zul> maybe add something like this to the wiki http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/kernelbug-howto.html
[12:05] <mdz> ok
[12:06] <mdz> zul: good point, there are surely existing resources we can draw from
[12:06] <mdz> where's the document in our wiki?
[12:06] <zul> ill try to merge a couple of resources that ill look for
[12:06] <BenC> dholbach did it, so check under his bug stuff
[12:07] <BenC> another thing we need to do is coordinate better with kernel.org bugzilla
[12:07] <zul> agree
[12:07] <BenC> the more of our bugs that we can link with there, the better chance someone else will fix it
[12:08] <lifeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelProblems <- ??
[12:08] <lifeless> is that the page ?
[12:08] <mdz> it's not linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Teams
[12:08] <mdz> which is where I looked
[12:08] <lifeless> if so, its a little vestigial
[12:08] <BenC> yep
[12:08] <sfllaw> Apparently, davej looks through Malone every once in a while...
[12:08] <BenC> it is pretty thing
[12:08] <zul> ill try to add some more information
[12:08] <BenC> thin
[12:09] <mdz> BenC: between you and sfllaw, make sure we have a solid "how to make sure a kernel bug is useful to the kernel team" document
[12:09] <BenC> needs stuff about oops capturing and such
[12:09] <lifeless> bug 43893
[12:09] <sfllaw> mdz: I think it's linked from DebuggingProcedures
[12:09] <lifeless> ah, no ubugtu
[12:09] <lifeless> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/43893
[12:10] <sfllaw> BenC: If you could add stuff to DebuggingKernelProblems, that would be ace.
[12:10] <sfllaw> Even if it's just point form.
[12:10] <sfllaw> I can expand on it.
[12:10] <mdz> sfllaw: I think it should be possible to make the same document useflu to reporters and the bugsquad
[12:10] <mdz> sfllaw: I suggest that you and BenC have a phone call later today and hash this stuff out over a higher-bandwidth link
[12:10] <mdz> lifeless: maybe you'd be interested in the conf call as well?
[12:10] <lifeless> mdz: yep
[12:11] <mdz> ok
[12:11] <BenC> ok, but someone else will need to setup the conf call
[12:11] <BenC> I can only do single line :)
[12:12] <mdz> BenC: I'll see if I can dig up that info, unless sfllaw is set up for 3-way calling at home
[12:12] <sfllaw> I'm not.
[12:12] <lifeless> though given timezones,and three way difficulties ... my primary interest is to get a feel for the challenges you are running into
[12:12] <sfllaw> I haven't even setup long distance yet.  ;)
[12:12] <mdz> I have the passcode and will set it up for you
[12:12] <mdz> what time?
[12:12] <BenC> any time during work hours is good, I can do outside work hours given notice
[12:12] <lifeless> anytime from now for the next 12 hours works
[12:13] <mdz> sfllaw: how is nowish for you?
[12:13] <zul> BenC: ill try to find some resources as well
[12:13] <sfllaw> Nowish is good, as long as we have a direct meeting.
[12:13] <mdz> BenC: is now close enough?
[12:13] <sfllaw> I don't want to waffle and take up forever.
[12:14] <mdz> sfllaw: what we want out of it is a plan to a) get the wiki page into shape as discussed, b) prepare an announcement explaining how to help (with URLs both to a custom report for the right set of bugs, and the instructions for what to do)
[12:14] <BenC> now is fine
[12:14] <mdz> BenC: do you have any documentation on the daily builds?
[12:14] <mdz> the documentation could explain how to use those to isolate regressions
[12:14] <BenC> not really
[12:15] <BenC> other than an email that got sent out awhile back
[12:16] <mdz> ok, I'm tracking down the PIN for the confcall system
[12:16] <sfllaw> Give me five minutes, and I'll be ready for the phone call.
[12:16] <mdz> do you all have the dialin info?
[12:17] <BenC> not handy
[12:17] <lifeless> same
[12:18] <zul> http://mbligh.org/linuxdocs/Kernel
[12:20] <zul> ok i have to head off to my parents
[12:20] <mdz> I'll get that
[12:24] <sfllaw> Back.
[12:24] <sfllaw> I also have no idea what the dialin info is.
[12:25] <mdz> lifeless,sfllaw,BenC: sent you email
[12:26] <mdz> conference is in progress
[12:27] <sfllaw> What's the PIN?
[12:27] <lifeless> whats the code ?
[12:28] <sfllaw> mdz: Ping?
[12:28] <lifeless> mdz: we need a 'conference code'
[12:29] <BenC> what is the code?
[12:29] <mdz>  /msg
[12:30] <lifeless> thanks
[01:02] <lifeless> thanks mdz, that was good
[01:13] <mdz> lifeless: sorry I couldn't join; just got off with mark
[01:13] <mdz> and kiko has been waiting all day to talk
[01:16] <lifeless> heh
[01:16] <lifeless> sfllaw will be mailing us after he eats
[01:16] <lifeless> with minutes
[01:17] <lifeless> I still want to chat with you :)
[01:17] <lifeless> can we make an appointment ?
[02:42] <mdz> lifeless: sorry, didn't see your message
[02:43] <mdz> lifeless: I have a few minutes now
[02:31] <zul> heylo
[04:44] <BenC> sweet, I just noticed that bcm43xx now supports signal strength and other stats in iwconfig
[04:44] <BenC> so now my network status applet actually looks like a wireless status :)
[04:50] <mjg59> BenC: Oh, yeah, that's a point. Any chance of pulling 43xx updates?
[04:50] <BenC> yeah, I can do that
[04:50] <mjg59> (And then reapplying the Mac stuff)
[04:50] <mjg59> Uh, PCI-E stuff
[04:50] <BenC> PCI-E and a few other things
[04:51] <mjg59> I'm also wondering if we should modify it so it tries to load the firmware on modprobe, and gives -ENODEV otherwise
[04:51] <mjg59> That would stop it showing up in the installer
[04:51] <mjg59> BenC: I sent you a couple of patches (one for avoiding pci=assign-busses, one for Sony hotkey support)
[04:53] <BenC> looks like it should be easy
[04:53] <BenC> ah, almost forgot about the pci= one
[04:55] <BenC> good thing is bcm43xx has a seperate function for loading the firmware from disk, and pushig it to the card
[04:55] <BenC> mjg59: I'll update to latest code and implement that
[04:57] <mjg59> BenC: Ta
[05:01] <BenC> mjg59: Do we have any bug reports related to the yenta fix?
[05:01] <mjg59> BenC: Nope
[05:01] <mjg59> Oh, yes
[05:01] <mjg59> elmo filed one yesterday
[05:02] <BenC> 43881, got it
[05:03] <BenC> note to self, it's bad to type a number in vim when not in insert mode, then enter insert mode, type the same number and exit insert mode
[05:03] <BenC> especially a number like 43881
[06:11] <BenC> badness
[06:12] <BenC> latest bcm43xx doesn't seem to like my G4...doesn't even create an interface
[06:49] <mjg59> BenC: Anything in dmesg?
[06:51] <BenC> mjg59: "bcm43xx driver" and that's it :)
[06:51] <mjg59> BenC: Suggests it's not binding to the PCI device
[06:52] <BenC> or it's failing some test of the device
[06:52] <BenC> the PCI id's are listed
[06:52] <BenC> I'm going to add some printk's to see what's up
[06:52] <mjg59> Hm.