[17:02] <joshdreamland> I know a lot of overhauling was done on 10.04's sound system, and it corrected a lot of problems with dropped buffers. I'm not sure where this problem came from out of that
[17:02] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: there is a possibilty that it is playing through the on board speaker that is supposed to beep for warnings?
[17:02] <acicula> vidur,  though may be that its just to old a gfx to be supported beyond anything then the open source driver thats (should be) enabled by default.
[17:02] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: No, pcspkr's been blacklisted
[17:02] <BlueParrot> ubuntulog, if the keyring works I'm fine with that because then I could just use my password and not having to remember the darn wep-key
[17:02] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: was a wild guess
[17:02] <joshdreamland> Mine only ever beeped anyway
[17:03] <BlueParrot> fail again
[17:03] <BlueParrot> ubutom, see above :P
[17:03] <joshdreamland> Yep, appreciated accordingly
[17:03] <Drayz> Salut
[17:03] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: I am not sure what driver controls audio but that is the problem
[17:03] <acicula> vidur, can you set the resolution that you want?
[17:03] <BlueParrot> ubutom, I must learn to tab-complete with care in big channels :)
[17:03] <joshdreamland> Probably. Odd thing is, I never had this problem with Jaunty.
[17:03] <Kenet> joshdreamland
[17:04] <Kenet> are you using a beta or rc version?
[17:04] <vidur> acicula NO
[17:04] <joshdreamland> Kenet: Of Lucid?
[17:04] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: sounds like it guessed the wrong driver. Oh the pun!
[17:04] <joshdreamland> I'm using whatever was available near the end of April
[17:04] <arrhenius> hola
[17:04] <Kenet> yes
[17:05] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> arrhenius: Bueno!
[17:05] <joshdreamland> And have since updated regularly
[17:05] <steve33> im trying to install a program and i get this message "The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct."  what does this mean
[17:05] <acicula> vidur, what resolution can you set?
[17:05] <Kenet> check alsamixer settings
[17:05] <ubutom> BlueParrot, yeah, happens, well, I kept mine simple *g*
[17:05] <joshdreamland> I assume it's the release candidate, but I'm not sure if they're still called that after they are actually released. It's not the beta.
[17:05] <acicula> vidur, you cant use the binary drivers from ati unfortunatly, as those simply do not support that card anymore by the looks of it
[17:05] <martian> set settings_autosave = ON
[17:05] <Milp_main> hey guys, which ubuntu version used to run kernel version 2.6.29?
[17:05] <martian> oops
[17:06] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: have you gone to synaptic and checked for Broken packages and then checked Update everything?
[17:06] <vidur> i get an error which say "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[17:06] <vidur> No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly."Please install the ATI driver appropriate for you ATI hardware, or configure using aticonfig."
[17:06] <Milp_main> I urgently need all the stuff required to compile things for the kernel version 2.6.29 on an arm device
[17:06] <Kenet> can this problem be described as pcspkr works but you don't want it to work?
[17:06] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Not really; I just ran update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade
[17:06] <Kenet> hehe, since my english sucks
[17:06] <joshdreamland> Kenet: My problem?
[17:06] <acicula> vidur, are you trying to install drivers from the ati website
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Kenet: he turned off the PC Speaker
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> Kenet: it is super annoying on laptops
[17:07] <joshdreamland> Kenet: I would have blacklisted pcspkr had the developers not done so themselves with the comment "this annoys everybody"
[17:07] <Kenet> i used to have this similar problem
[17:07] <vidur> No i tried installing it using "synaptic package manager"
[17:07] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> joshdreamland: really? that's funny
[17:07] <Kenet> blacklist it won't help
[17:08] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: Yes. They said in their comment it should be replaced by a nice audio blip.
[17:08] <Kenet> i looked for the solution everywhere and all say that i have to blacklist it
[17:08] <ubutom> vidur, maybe you use the opensource driver, to enable radeon driver enable desktop effects or use hardware driver wizard, if it doesn't install, your card is not supported anymore and you'll have to stick with the opensource driver which doesn't have ccc
[17:08] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> anyone help installing Broadcom driver when it asks for a patch I just deleted?
[17:09] <joshdreamland> Kenet: My problem is that when I play some sounds/songs, it sounds as if the system had amplified them past the playable range, clipped what couldn't be played, and then set it back with several lost crests and played it anyway
[17:09] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> any Aussies here?
[17:09] <jad> hey
[17:09] <acicula> vidur, ah like so, same issue really, you can not install the binary ati drivers (fglrx) period, your card is not supported by those drivers(anymore). and the older drivers that do support the card probably wont work on a modern version of ubuntu, tl;dr your stuck using the open source ati driver.
[17:09] <joshdreamland> so it kind of hisses and sometimes squeaks
[17:09] <jad> please really need help with open office draw
[17:09] <jad> and please don't redirect me
[17:09] <jad> to a different channel
[17:09] <theadmin> jad: Might be better off to #openoffice.org but if you know it's Ubuntu specific - ask here
[17:09] <joshdreamland> It really sounds as if the speakers have gone bad, but I tested multiple from multiple ports
[17:10] <joshdreamland> !ask | jad
[17:10] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> jad: there is a channel for open office at #openofficejustforJad
[17:10] <vidur> oh...is there a way by which i can bring back my driver settings to normal again?
[17:10] <acicula> vidur, yeah remove the packages you installed with apt-get remove --purge packagename
[17:10] <acicula> in a console
[17:10] <acicula> !xorg
[17:11] <theadmin> Hm. What is the XFCE's login manager? xdm or something?
[17:11] <joshdreamland> *has a bone to pick with x.org developers, too*
[17:11] <Kenet> sorry that's beyond my ability
[17:11] <vidur> k i ll try doing that
[17:11] <jad> The_Real_Sam_Fis, thing is, no one is on these channels usually
[17:11] <djbeenie_> anyone know how to restart alsa in ubuntu 10.4?
[17:12] <theadmin> djbeenie_: sudo service alsa restart I suppose.
[17:12] <joshdreamland> I thought you said "restart Asia"
[17:12] <theadmin> ...lol
[17:12] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> someone lay some terminal commands on us dealing with sound !
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> The_Real_Sam_Fis:  'beep'
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:12] <joshdreamland> win
[17:12] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> lol
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> !info beep
[17:12] <djbeenie_> alsa: unrecognized service
[17:13] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> josh is in dreamland and needs a lullaby to play him to sleep
[17:13] <joshdreamland> as opposed to the sound of cars being crushed
[17:13] <jaminc> my laptop appears to be periodically rebooting as a result of a kernel crash...  however most attempts to submit the requested bug report for the kernel crash result in a "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error" response after several minutes trying to upload the data.  Is there any other way I can report this problem and provide the necessary data?
[17:14] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> WOW no one can help me with Broadcom problem really?
[17:14] <geez> Hi, I have been Googling for a mobile printer that will work with my Karmic netbook. Suggestions, rants and raves welcomed ;-)
[17:14] <The_Real_Sam_Fis> geez: this aint no place for rants and raves
[17:15] <joshdreamland> geez: I've never plugged anything into an ubuntu machine that didn't just immediately work
[17:15] <rashd7_> i have bcm5784m lan driver
[17:15] <joshdreamland> Well, I mean, not since they fixed it so you can have more than one mouse
[17:15] <joshdreamland> Which was a very, very long time ago
[17:15] <geez> Anything? agreed but printing is different because I don't ever see any drivers...
[17:16] <theadmin> geez: CUPS?
[17:16] <theadmin> :/
[17:16] <joshdreamland> geez: I despise printers. I had to install software for mine on Windows, but they worked immediately on Ubuntu
[17:16] <jaminc> geez, all printers I've tried have just worked... the main problem is getting one that is portable enough for a mobile
[17:16] <rafaelsoaresbr> can I use "mount --bind" for /var directory instead of using symbolic links?
[17:16] <geez> Great, so which printer did u install?
[17:16] <Milp_main> I urgently need all the stuff required to compile things for the kernel version 2.6.29 on an arm device, where can i find the kernel headers for that?
[17:17] <jaminc> geez, my main is an hp7350 (bit old now days)
[17:17] <NCS_One> I have a blueray in .mkv file when I play it lags, plays like slowmotion, do I need some codecs ?
[17:17] <acicula> Milp_main, are you on ubuntu?
[17:17] <jaminc> also had another HP all-in-one deal (scanner, printer, etc) don't recall the model number off hand
[17:17] <rottenese> The_Real_Sam_Fis: tried the broadcom driver shipped with synaptic pkg mngr?
[17:17] <claytonwalker> Test, can anybody read this?
[17:17] <acicula> claytonwalker, yup
[17:17] <geez> I need a mobile printer somthing like the Canon ip100 but only drivers 4 mac and windoze
[17:17] <jpds> claytonwalker: No.
[17:17] <Milp_main> acicula: yes
[17:17] <Keithamus> does anyone here have Lucid Lynx set up for LTSP?
[17:18] <claytonwalker> Thanks, now to my question. Am I not able to copy a 4GB+ file over to a fat32 formatted HD?
[17:18] <acicula> Milp_main, apt-get install build-essential, and you may have to explicitly install the headers package for your kernel version, use apt-cache search to locate those
[17:18] <powdahound> Anyone else having issues hitting security.ubuntu.com when running 'apt-get update'?
[17:18] <theadmin> claytonwalker: Nope, 4GB limit on fat32.
[17:18] <iceroot> claytonwalker: no
[17:18] <acicula> ie apt-cache search linux | grep headers| grep <yourversion> or something to that extend
[17:18] <acicula> isnt there exFAT
[17:19] <acicula> to handle +4GB sized files?
[17:19] <joshdreamland> The_Real_Sam_Fis: I found the comments. "# ugly and loud noise, getting on everyone's nerves; this should be done by a / # nice pulseaudio bing (Ubuntu: #77010)"
[17:19] <jaminc> geez, that's funny, I see Linux drivers on their support site for the ip100
[17:19] <iceroot> acicula: not working with windows by default, so its useless
[17:19] <Milp_main> acicula: well i tried searching for it on aptitude and it couldnt find anything with my kernel version, only 2.6.31 and upwards
[17:19] <claytonwalker> threadmin: Thanks, I've tried drag-and-drop, and terminal commands (albiet on my Mac, seeing as I can't connect to ##apple) and both have failed me. You've saved me a lot of grief.
[17:19] <jaminc> geez, "1.   Printer Driver for Linux (Debian) (2.90)"
[17:19] <iceroot> Milp_main: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:19] <acicula> Milp_main, are you using a stock kernel?
[17:19] <geez> I'll look again on the support site. I just looked on the drivers site. thnx.
[17:19] <Milp_main> acicula: no
[17:20] <jaminc> just search for "canon ip100 linux"
[17:20] <jaminc> that's all I did
[17:20] <acicula> Milp_main, then the headers wont be packaged either, you'll have to symlink the headers in /usr/include
[17:20] <Milp_main> iceroot: thanks, will search there
[17:20] <Milp_main> acicula: uuh what?
[17:21] <acicula> Milp_main, if you are using a custom kernel then you will not find the header files packaged for it, unless you run a custom version of a prepackaged kernel
[17:21] <mophead> Hi everyone, anyone else having trouble with ubuntu getting rid of all of their preferences?  e.g. appearance, key combos...?
[17:21] <simmerz> hi. I've got a mpeg file but `file -i foo.mpg` shows it being read a application/octet-stream instead of video/mpeg. any ideas?
[17:21] <Milp_main> acicula: thats why im asking if there was an ubuntu version running version 2.6.29, so i could just use those headers for it, do you happen to know which version used it?
[17:22] <theadmin> mophead: Do you have full rwx access to your $HOME, I suppose?
[17:22] <saineyb> are u
[17:22] <unop> simmerz, file doesn't always get it right
[17:22] <robertskmiles> I'm having a problem with a segfault in mesa/libGL.so, google says people fix the problem by replacing it with nvidia/ati drivers, but I have intel integrated graphics, what can I replace mea with?
[17:23] <acicula> Milp_main, 9.04 shipped with .28 and karmic shipped with .31, so no
[17:23] <mophead> theadmin: sorry?
[17:23] <dngr> hey, i upgraded the kernel in ubuntu 10, now the windows option disappeared, i guess it doesnt recognize it as windows as its pgp encrypted.. how can i force it to boot the partition?
[17:23] <theadmin> mophead: What are the permissions on your home folder?
[17:23] <simmerz> unop: right, but the same command on an os x box gets it right. and it seems to be affecting a web app we've built that uses the OS mime type file to determine file type
[17:23] <Milp_main> acicula: hm where could i get a set of headers from then?
[17:23] <iceroot> Milp_main: kernel.org?
[17:23] <acicula> Milp_main, they are in the kernel source package you build from
[17:24] <acicula> if you make debs from the kernel source it should also package the headers i think?
[17:24] <unop> simmerz, file uses a 'magic' file which is a collection of signatures and properties about a file - different vendors populate it differently and it seems like apple have done better in this case
[17:24] <unop> simmerz, does the web app use apache?
[17:25] <Milp_main> iceroot: thanks acicula: well i didnt build the kernel myself, i dont think i can find the sources needed
[17:25] <acicula> Milp_main, if all this is confusing to you perhaps consider switching to prepackaged kernels for you?
[17:25] <simmerz> unop: it's a ruby on rails app running under mod_passenger, so yes
[17:25] <robertskmiles> simmerz: if the file plays fine, you count reencode it with mencoder or ffmpeg to get a file that file can understand
[17:25] <robertskmiles> s/count/could/
[17:25] <Andrew129> hi everyone. does anyone use amarok player?
[17:25] <NCS_One> I have a bluray in .mkv file when I play it lags, plays like slowmotion, do I need some codecs ?
[17:25] <Milp_main> acicula: thats not possible for that device, ubuntu only runs inside a chroot environment
[17:26] <simmerz> robertskmiles: what might cause it to show up wrong? a codec not understood maybe?
[17:26] <solow> I keep getting errors trying to install windows 7 on virtualbox. Anyone have any idea why?
[17:26] <iceroot> Milp_main: ah ok, thought it was a vanilla kernel
[17:26] <unop> simmerz, my guess is the .mpg wasn't created properly - with the right headers, etc. couldn't you use other properties such as file extensions?
[17:26] <robertskmiles> simmerz: no idea, presumabply wrong headers
[17:26] <iceroot> solow: ##windows ad #vbox
[17:26] <ubutom> NCS_One, maybe a player-issue
[17:26] <Milp_main> iceroot: nah, im trying to be able to compile things inside the chroo ubuntu env, so i dont have to cross compile, because thats the worst thing in the world to me
[17:27] <mophead> theadmin: all seems normal
[17:27] <acicula> Milp_main, yeah you'll have to get the sourcepackage that build your kernel(oogle), and then either manually setup the headers via symlinking, or package the kernel (!compile) as debs and install the headers as deb.
[17:27] <mophead> brb, let me reboot and see if that works
[17:27] <NCS_One> ubutom: I tryed de default player, mpayer and vcl
[17:27] <simmerz> unop: we could, but knowing the client they'd rename a .mov ;-)
[17:27] <acicula> as deb/ via dpkg
[17:27] <bcessa> hi there, this may be the most obvious question ever, but here it is anyway, I just install a server, everything working fine, but, how can I change the mysql host name from localhost to something more useful?
[17:27] <Milp_main> acicula: or could i just throw all the sources into the folder of the program i want to compile every time i want to compile something? (the lazy but messy way)
[17:27] <dngr> okidokia, does someone know how to boot a windows partition from the grub prompt?
[17:27] <acicula> Milp_main, well the build chain expects to find headers
[17:28] <unop> simmerz, I'm sure there are better ways to detect the file type - perhaps ffmpeg or mencoder have some detection mechanism
[17:28] <unop> ?
[17:28] <ubutom> NCS_One, have you got the commercial drivers installed for your gfx card?
[17:28] <acicula> you can set where it finds those headers to another location yes
[17:28] <iceroot> bcessa: mysql is not the localhost, your pc is localhost.
[17:28] <simmerz> unop: quite possibly. we're just doing a quick check
[17:28] <iceroot> bcessa: you have to add a name in /etc/hosts (dont change localhost) for an ip its listening on
[17:29] <robertskmiles> what is the alternative to mesa opengl for an intel integrated graphics card?
[17:29] <bcessa> iceroot: ic, someone suggest me to simply create a username with a different hostname value, is that the way to do it?
[17:29] <NCS_One> ubottu: yes
[17:29] <iceroot> bcessa: no
[17:29] <NCS_One> ubutom: yes
[17:29] <mophead> theadmin: reboot had no effect
[17:29] <bastidrazor> NCS_One: you ran mplayer from command line? mplayer is good about giving options/ reasons for slow play
[17:29] <iceroot> bcessa: go the way with /etc/hosts
[17:29] <ubutom> NCS_One, have you looked at cpu-load during playback?
[17:30] <NCS_One> ubutom: going to check it
[17:30] <tris2k_> which scripting languages do u guys like to best
[17:30] <jaminc> my laptop appears to be periodically rebooting as a result of a kernel crash...  however most attempts to submit the requested bug report for the kernel crash result in a "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error" response after several minutes trying to upload the data.  Is there any other way I can report this problem and provide the necessary data?
[17:30] <robertskmiles> tris2k: Python, by a long way
[17:31] <tris2k_> have you compared it to ruby, scala?
[17:31] <jaminc> tris2k_, definitely python... can do pretty much anything
[17:31] <bcessa> ok, I'll give it a try, thnx
[17:31] <mophead> theadmin: reboot fixed it.  success. thank you!
[17:31] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[17:31] <Tux_> I hva a problem setting up vpn (dont even know where to start). My network manager at work gave me this information: ipsec l2tp ppp, any ideas anyone?
[17:32] <robertskmiles> ruby is pretty nice but the thing that makes python for me is the selection of libraries
[17:32] <tris2k_> i was checking out python/ruby. they seem incredibly similar
[17:32] <dcamp25> Need some help with broadcom wireless cards
[17:32] <oCean_> !vpn | Tux_
[17:32] <theadmin> tris2k_: Ruby is a mix of python and a frog, as russians say
[17:32] <acicula> tris2k_, there are heaps of differences, google python vs ruby
[17:32] <iceroot> !broadcom | dcamp25
[17:33] <tris2k_> a frog? as in uglier?
[17:33] <unop> !poll | tris2k_
[17:33] <tris2k_> ok :)
[17:34] <Tux_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN : IPSec VPN, Not covered on this page... The closest I have gotten is this page: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/linux-l2tp.html
[17:35] <oCean_> Tux_: beware, this is not a general linux support channel. If you encounter specific ubuntu issues, you can ask them here
[17:35] <corpse> how could i go about mounting my fileserver so i can see it when browsing for a download location? It shows it as mounted in my window sidebar but i can not find the folder when i try to browse to it
[17:36] <NCS_One> ubutom: what CPU I need to play this ?
[17:36] <Tux_> oCean_: I was hoping there was a magick ubuntu package that helped me not go thru that guide :p
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> corpse:  look in the .gvfs dir  or use some of the fuse tools to mount it to some other location
[17:36] <robertskmiles> Does anyone know the proprietary alternative to mesa openGL for intel integrated graphics cards?
[17:36] <corpse> Dr_Willis: ahh thanks man
[17:37] <robertskmiles> or where I can find out
[17:37] <ubutom> NCS_One, dunno, but I think bluray needs a rather fast one if not accelerated by the graphics card
[17:37] <bcessa> thnx, cya around
[17:37] <ubutom> NCS_One, could also be just a bad encoded video file
[17:37] <oCean_> Tux_: don't think so. Not sure, maybe you'll find more help in ##security?
[17:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to free up some disk space using "mount --bind" or symbolic links?
[17:38] <Tux_> oCean_: ah, thanks. I will try :)
[17:38] <banished> Hi, I have a problem with dkms: I have set DEST_MODULE_LOCATION[0]="/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/", but the module gets installed to /lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/updates/dkms/ and does not overwrite the existing one, thus the old one gets used
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  that wont 'free' up space.
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  unless you are moving stuff to a differnt hard drive
[17:39] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, that's what I want to do with /var directory
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  move var to a new hd/filesuystem  edit /etc/fstab to point to the new place
[17:39] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, I want to put /var into /backup/var (that is on another partition)
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  in your case then you want to link /var to /backup/var
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  via 'ln -s onething otherthing'
[17:41] <paco_> hola  esto es el canal de ayuda ?
[17:41] <ubutom> !es >paco
[17:41] <ubutom> !es > paco
[17:41] <paco_> hola ?
[17:41] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, doesn't symbolic links causes any trouble? thanks
[17:41] <octosquid> hilarious
[17:42] <ubutom> !es | paco
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  shouldent. ive used them in similer cases for ages
[17:43] <StaRetji> Hello folks, I really need help speeding up boot process. There are some strange delays that I don't understand. Here is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/446721/ THX!
[17:43] <oCean_> ubutom: use <tab> for nickname completion: type "oce" then, hit <tab> to complete nick oCean_ for example.
[17:44] <ubutom> oCean_, didnt't see that _ , i know how ta completion works ;)
[17:44] <mophead> Hi guys.  What is the name of the package that runs flash in firefox? I think it's adobe something
[17:44] <banished> StaRetji: you should rather consult bootchart
[17:44] <robertskmiles> mophead: adobe-flashplugin i believe
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> runs flash.. or installs flash.. :)
[17:45] <StaRetji> banished: thx, will do that. Will bootchart give me tips on how to speed up / fix the problem?
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> !info flashplugin-installer
[17:45] <gaspard> on my machine <IP_ADDRESS> i have made a ssh tunnel like ssh -NL 3689:localhost:3689 myuser@myremoteserver but it only work when i connect to localhost... what if i want other computers from the local network to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> to be redirected to myremoteserver ?
[17:45] <wessel> hello, after reboot my Ubuntu asks me: "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[17:45] <wessel> Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?
[17:45] <wessel> I have no idea
[17:45] <wessel> Do I want to delete it?
[17:45] <mophead> what is the difference between flashplugin-installer and adobe-flashplugin?
[17:45] <wessel> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  you can. it proberly crashed or has some other odd issue
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  one does the actual install.. no idea about the other. It may download/build the 2nd package.
[17:46] <gaspard> on netstat, i only get listening from localhost, how do i extend this to all incoming connections ?
[17:46] <banished> StaRetji: you will see what consumes most time
[17:46] <JuJuBee> I downloaded some login themes, where are they stored?  You do realize the the gdm in 10.04 dosent use the old gdm themes?
[17:46] <FloodBot1> saineyb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <The_Blob> gaspard: use the -g option for that
[17:47] <StaRetji> banished: thx man!
[17:47] <JuJuBee> Dr_Willis: KDM actually.
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  ahh. No idea on kdm. :)
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee:  that one at least is still themeable i think :)
[17:47] <mophead> Dr_Willis: Thank you.  So does that mean I should download one first, then the other?
[17:47] <gaspard> thnx for the clie The_Blob , i'm investigating
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  install the installer package and it does the job of installing flash...
[17:48] <robertskmiles> mophead: just the installer one will do the job
[17:48] <mophead> and if it doesn't...?
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  thats its JOB...
[17:48] <robertskmiles> mophead: if it doesnt hten come back
[17:48] <mophead> to clarify: I have this recurring problem where I can play flash video just fine but no audio.
[17:48] <mophead> and some flash doesn't play at all
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> mophead:  Flash is problematic.. thats one of the many reasons linux people tend to hate it.
[17:49] <kiamo> how do I troubleshoot a program that doesn't run after I have installed it in wine?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Theres some spefific tweaks out there for flash with no audio
[17:49] <robertskmiles> Sorry to keep repeating this, but does anyone know the proprietary alternative to mesa openGL for intel integrated graphics cards, or where I can find that out?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  #1 check  the wine app databnase on the app.
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | kiamo
[17:49] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[17:49] <kiamo> Dr_Willis, yea I already looked there, nada :(
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> kiamo:  chweck the wine forums then i guess
[17:50] <dbreddy> how to specify my xserver destination
[17:50] <rafaelsoaresbr> Dr_Willis, /var is 2.1Gb large. I'm going to use apt-mirror and need 34Gb :)
[17:50] <mophead> Dr_Willis : k, I will keep looking for the answer.  I was hoping there was one thing that worked for most people.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> viperswan:  you mean the gamepad moves the mouse around?
[17:50] <dbreddy> i mean the path of xserver
[17:50] <wessel> could someone recommend me a motherboard sensor application?
[17:50] <wessel> like to monitor CPU temperature and such
[17:50] <kiamo> hmm forums...
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> rafaelsoaresbr:  i just set up one box as an apt-cacher server.
[17:50]  * kiamo goes to look
[17:50] <Cueball> wessel: lm-sensors
[17:51] <bastidrazor> wessel: lmsensors
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  dozens of various widgits/docks/applets that can monitor different things. most use lm-sensors to do the real work I think
[17:51] <Cueball> Is security.ubuntu.com slow for anyone else today?
[17:51] <theadmin> Cueball: True.
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Cueball:  i hear a lot of the servers are slow today.
[17:51] <wessel> cool, ty
[17:52] <Dargon> is there any real difference between ubuntu server and regular ubuntu, cuz im an idiot and cant get kde and x to work right on server, and i likes me some GUI
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  differnt kernel i belive is the main diff. and the packages installed
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> if youw ant a GUI its better to install the desktp., then install the services you want.. then the other way around
[17:53] <Dargon> right
[17:53] <unop> Dargon, why can't you "get kde and x to work right" ?
[17:53] <Dargon> plus with a GUI, i can ask youguys for help while im actually in front of my server :D
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  you did install 'kubuntu-desktop' package ?
[17:53] <Dargon> i forget the error, im not infront of it atm
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  there are console/text based IRC clients. :) weechat and irssi  and others.
[17:54] <Dargon> Dr_Willis: i apt-got kde and x
[17:54] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[17:54] <saineyb> hi
[17:54] <Cueball> Dargon: you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[17:54] <Dargon> i like irssi, but the GUI is nice for windows and such
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  thats proberly why then. Install 'kubuntu-desktop' if you wan tthe full kde/kubuntu desktop setup
[17:54] <benkong2> hey all apt-get autoremove wants to do this: http://pastebin.com/dmSNb4QU what are the criteria for apt determining what to autoremove?
[17:54] <saineyb> how are u doing
[17:54] <benkong2> looks like I need to keep python-beagle
[17:55] <theadmin> benkong2: If you don't want it to remove a specific package, do "sudo apt-get install package"
[17:55] <MKM> hi..
[17:55] <dotblank> viperswan, this probably involves xorg using the joystick this actually should not be default behaviour
[17:55] <Dargon> thanks doc, you may have saved me re-installing ubuntu for no reason :D
[17:55] <Dargon> helpful people = win
[17:55] <lucenut> I am running ubuntu in Virtualbox on my Windows 7 ultimate x64 PC.
[17:55] <MKM> i hv trouble with sync songs into my ipod in ubuntu...
[17:56] <speart> join #xen
[17:56] <Dargon> Dr_Willis and Cueball win todays helping kyle contest, shiny medals to you both
[17:56] <unop> benkong2, the packages were brought in as dependencies but are no longer dependent upon by other packages ..
[17:56] <lucenut> The best resolution I can get in the VB is 1360x768.
[17:56] <benkong2> theadmin: I realize I can do that I am more curious by what makes the please packages, or any packages get on the list?
[17:56] <dotblank> #xen is the wrong place for virtualbox
[17:56] <lucenut> Is there any hope to going fullscreen like 1900 wide?
[17:56] <benkong2> unop: ok
[17:56] <benkong2> so is
[17:56] <bastidrazor> dotblank: #vbox
[17:56] <vishaltelangre> MKM, from which music player?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  you did install the virtualbox guest additions?
[17:56] <theadmin> benkong2: I didn't dig much into it, but i know it works
[17:57] <benkong2> ok I'll try I can always reinstall...
[17:57] <User01> does Linux auto detect hardware on boot
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> User01:  for the most part yes.
[17:57] <benkong2> but.... I would like to know the under hood thinking
[17:57] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i hv rhythmbox...
[17:57] <benkong2> thanks
[17:58] <uLinux> ei why updates server is so slow
[17:58] <MKM> vishaltelangre: it wont sync.., the screen dips out
[17:58] <uLinux> ?
[17:58] <lucenut> Dr willis. My buddy came over and installed something the other day that got me to 1360x768. Before that I was at 800x600!
[17:58] <vishaltelangre> MKM, which problem you're getting?
[17:58] <speart> hi, why can't I install the Xen packages?
[17:58] <MKM> vishaltelangre: it wont sync.., the screen dips out
[17:58] <saineyb> hi
[17:58] <User01> cool, is it possible to migrate from desktop to laptop or laptop to laptop with minimal config
[17:58] <uLinux> it's downloading at 113kbs
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  if you have the virtualbox guest addons installed. then ive no other ideas. it could be a vbox limit. Check the vbox docs/forums
[17:59] <speart> it lists xen-tools as a dependency, but there isn't such package
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> User01:  clarify what you mean by migrate from X to Y?
[17:59] <lucenut> guest addons is in ubuntu?
[17:59] <wng-> I'm having trouble with an ubuntu machine, when i SSH into it, it will randomly drop the conntection (write failed: broken pipe) then complain that the RSA host key changed. A few minutes later the RSA host key is back to normal and i can connect
[17:59] <jileen> hi, where is the path of the installed theme of firefox, i need to modify the css thx
[17:59] <ryann_> Hey all. I'm currently running windows 7 and am wondering that if create a anew partition for Ubuntu LTS, would i still be able to choose which OS when I turn my pc on?
[17:59] <lucenut> Can I verify that's installed by looking somewhere?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  virtualbox has sopecial drivers you install in the guest os to get maximum features. Check teh vbox docs for details
[17:59] <User01> dr.Willis installing ubuntu on one laptop and running it on another
[18:00] <lucenut> "Guest OS" is windows?
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you mean moveing the hd from one to antoher?
[18:00] <Izinucs> lucenut: every time you upgrade vbox you have to reinstall the guest additions then restart.. to go full screen try Right CTRL + F .. the same combination to return to  a windowed vm
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> lucenut:  No.. windows running vbox running linux.. windows is the HOST..
[18:00] <ryann_> Well, not 'still choose' but, be able to to choose.
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> hi, whenever I try to install anything with the Ubuntu Software Center I get
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> "Requires installation of untrusted package
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[18:00] <Izinucs> lucenut: restart the guest that is.
[18:00] <SakurabaNeku> Does anyone know what to do?
[18:00] <dbreddy> how to specify the path of x server when running ssh
[18:00] <MKM> ryann : yes after u install ubuntu it will also have its grub, der u can choose ur os
[18:00] <User01> dr_willis: yes
[18:01] <User01> ?
[18:01] <vishaltelangre> MKM, means your desktop also freeze down or something other situation?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Host runs Vbox.. vbox runs the Guest OS.
[18:01] <MKM> ryann_: yes after u install ubuntu it will also have its grub, der u can choose ur os
[18:01] <Tetraz> Hello guys! I have an S3 UniChrome Pro graphics card and running ubuntu 10.04 are there any drivers for this card? as it is now it's extremely chopy
[18:01] <jileen>  where is the path of the  theme of firefox ? i need to modify the css
[18:01] <ryann_> mkm: so if I installed Ubuntnu from a USB, i'd be able to choose which OS i want to boot?
[18:01] <Dargon> Dr_Willis: will it screw with kubuntu-desktop since i already apt-got kde and xinit?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  i would say - the outlook is not good.
[18:02] <MKM> vishaltelangre: the application asks me to force quit...
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Dargon:  shouldent
[18:02] <User01> dr_willis: from hdd to hdd using different systems
[18:02] <User01> but the same hdd
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you mean install to pc1, 'backup' and restore to pc2'
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> ?
[18:02] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: okey..well I think i'm going to ditch this computer anyway
[18:03] <vishaltelangre> MKM, which application, rythmbox? Had your rythmbox works when your iPod is not plugged w/ your machine?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  via, and s3 and some of the 'not  big players' videos cards are best avoided. :)
[18:03] <MKM> ryann_: yes the grub loader will show u the options at the time of ur boot and u can select ur choice there...
[18:03] <ryann_> MKM: last I installed Ubuntu, Windows 7 wasn't there,,
[18:04] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: yeah well this computer is already abit old so i think I will make a server of it instead
[18:04] <MKM> vishaltelangre: yes everything works fine, bt only if i want to sync songs it hangs and asks me to force quit...
[18:04] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help
[18:05] <carlosgaldino> Which is the best tool to record the dekstop? I tried recordmydesktop but it's too slow and I can't close it so I gave up on it, is there another tool?
[18:05] <dotblank> !joystick
[18:05] <Balgan> recordmydesktop works fine carlosgaldino
[18:05] <wessel> the lm-sensors guide says: "run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools" (from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780) but how do I run this exactly?
[18:05] <ubutom> ryann_, win 7 bootloader will be availabe through grub menu, may appear as vista loader
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> viperswan:  you mean you move the stick and the pointer moves? or what excatly?
[18:06] <VCoolio> jileen: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox/???.desktop/...
[18:06] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7:~/Desktop$ sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[18:06] <wessel> Usage: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools COMMAND
[18:06] <VCoolio> jileen: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox/???.prfile/...
[18:06] <vishaltelangre> MKM, yeah, this been a problem while you syncing your i-Devices w/ ubuntu.. One solution I found here:
[18:06] <carlosgaldino> Balgan: is it too slow when enconding the video? and i can't close it
[18:06] <MKM> ryann_: u might have probably formatted the entire memory.., this time create a partition in your windows the when u install ubuntu it will asks you to manualy set the space for the installation,then select the free space and install your ubuntu
[18:06] <User01> dr_willis: I mean just a fresh install on pc1 and than swapping and running on  pc2  since it overheats and I can't install  purposes
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> User01:  that should work. Try it and see
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> User01:  when you start installing special drivers, like for nvidia and ati, then that can cause issues with moveing the hd about
[18:07] <vishaltelangre> MKM, Sync your iPhone/iPod Music Libary With Rhythmbox in Ubuntu Karmic (No Jailbreaking Required) - http://goo.gl/4CWH
[18:07] <djveer> is there something I can use to watch Quicktime videos with Firefox on Ubuntu?
[18:07] <ryann_> ubutom: right, it's just last time I did this, it overwrote my windows 7 loader.
[18:07] <uLinux> Synaptic > Prefereces > Files > History: Keep history?  What is this? History of what?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> djveer:  vlc. mplayer + the w32codecs and totem + proper pcakges can watch those I recall. BUT if you mean In the browser at apples  homepage.. well  that may be harder.
[18:08] <vishaltelangre> MKM, I hope it'll might work w/ your machine if you've 9.04/9.10/10.04...
[18:08] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i use karmic.., same problem.., it just dips out..., any other soln..??
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> djveer:   there might be some extensions that let you download then watch the clips
[18:08] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?    History of what?
[18:08] <User01> dr_willis: ubuntu installs those automatically right?
[18:08] <djveer> Dr_Willis: Thanks!
[18:08] <MKM> vishaltelangre: i ment.., i use 10.04..,lucid same problem.., it just dips out..., any other soln..??
[18:09] <vishaltelangre> MKM, had you tried the solution, which was posted in that article?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> User01:  nvidia and ati - run the hardware-drivers tool. (or jockey-gtk)
[18:09] <ubutom> User01, I never had a problem swapping hds  of different machines, though it was the standard kernel, switched  hd from amd to intel board, and between old pcs that i used as server
[18:09] <Tetraz> what brand of laptops are usually the most compatible with linux platforms?
[18:09] <ulkn> ryann_: you should have an independent means to backup and restore the first couple of sectors of your disk, because things might go wrong. after all, ubuntu overwrites your mbr with grub...
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  ive heard avoide toshiba
[18:10] <User01> okay I will let the guy know who is fixing my computer it's more than possible
[18:10]  * Chriisti Hello Community
[18:10] <ryann_> ulkn: how can I prevent this? or at least have windows 7 loader pre-written (so to speak) in the grub loader.
[18:10] <User01> he said he has a 25 dollar flat fee
[18:10] <ubutom> ryann_, you can choose the destination of grub at installation in a dialog called advanced or something like that, it's after partitioning iirc
[18:10] <Tetraz> Dr_Willis: hehe strange i've got a toshiba laptop that just works fine for me :)
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> User01:  $25 to do what> move a hd from one pc to another?
[18:11] <ulkn> ryann_: does your windows 7 loader offer you the choice to boot other systems on other partitions?
[18:11] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?    History of what?
[18:11] <ryann_> ubutom: yes, I'm aware of how it's installed, I've done it numerous times.
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Tetraz:  even under windows - ive seen a great meny people with MAJOR issues with Toshibas - i dont plan on ever getting one any time soon.
[18:11] <ryann_> ulkn: nope, straight into windows 7.
[18:11] <vishaltelangre> MKM, Hey there, this may work out, try: Easy Way To Sync Your iPhone / iPod Touch With Rhythmbox, Nautilus, Etc. In Ubuntu - http://goo.gl/dFf0
[18:11] <User01> so in your opinion even if he tried to install an os and failed should he still be charging me 25 bucks
[18:11] <ubutom> ryann_, win 7 will most certainly primary partition for it's loader, so you choose another location for grub
[18:11] <User01> dr_willis: yes
[18:11] <ubutom> *most certainly use*
[18:12] <ryann_> ubutom: you sure that's possible?
[18:12] <ubutom> did it several times ryann_
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  installing ubuntu is rather trivial.. moving a HD from one desktop pc to antoher is also rather trivial.. :)
[18:12] <User01> for installing an os on pc1 and moving to pc 2
[18:12] <DCGstudios> Hey guys, Anyone know if a CUPS print server is going to be compatible with both windows and mac OS hosts?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  and both are the kind of tasks you should learn...
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> User01:  30 min to install.. 5 min to move.. perhaps..
[18:13] <wessel> Dr_Willis, this "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet", I think it removed my power down button :(
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> User01:  but why not install on  the other one to begin eith?
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  so? You cn still use the logout menu. or just reset the panels.
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> wessel:  or add it back.
[18:13] <User01> dr_willis: yes but he claims to be a 4 year student with a 25 dollar flat fee
[18:13] <erUSUL> DCGstudios: it should; ipp is a standar. and you could use samba too for the windows clients
[18:13] <ubutom> ryann_, you can use the root partition of linux, I think then this partition is made active, if not do it manually, can even be done with windows onboard tools
[18:13] <erUSUL> DCGstudios: Mac OS X uses cups too
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> User01:  i dont see why that matters in any way..
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, I mean you can use the root partition for grub
[18:14] <ryann_> ubutom: so, create a new partition for my ubuntu install, make it active, and then install ubuntu?
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, win7 should be untouched and unaware ;)
[18:14] <User01> he hasn't tried this method if it fails I won't hold it against him
[18:14] <ironfoot495> Hi I have install Darwin Streaming server and I can't get to work properly. Can someone give a good source on how to use it ???
[18:14] <nikin> what application is triggered when a modem is inserted in lucid?
[18:14] <DCGstudios> urUSUL, oh okay, well i knew smb servers would be cross compatable with them all, but CUPS will work as well with the windows clients?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> User01:  I still dont see the point in the install, then move...
[18:14] <ryann_> ubutom: okay, thanks for that. It's just, last time it nerfed my entire install, and getting all my files back was a pickle..
[18:14] <ubutom> ryann_, I think the part of making active is done when you choose the linux partition for grub install automatically
[18:14] <uLinux> Synaptic > Preferences > Files > History: Keep history?   History of what? Can I delete it?
[18:15] <MKM> vishaltelangre: thnks ..:-)
[18:15] <help111> hey everyone
[18:15] <nikin> i have a huewei E220 which fails to trigger it.. but if i put my sony ericsson modem next to it, then both are detected
[18:15] <help111> need some help installation
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> User01:  in the time we have been chatting.. ive doen an install to a pc.
[18:15] <uLinux> ei
[18:15] <ubutom> ryann_, backup is always recommended, but it shouldn't mess anything up
[18:15] <User01> but I'd like him to give it a shot since I can't and do it and I paid for some reliable service, my laptop overheats
[18:15] <ryann_> ubutom, alright, thanks. peace.
[18:15] <help111> which filesystem shud i choose for installing ubuntu?
[18:15] <User01> and won't take0n a live cd
[18:15] <User01> or USB boot
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you think some how ubuntu is going to make the laptop Not overheat?
[18:15] <help111> ext3 or ext4 ?
[18:16] <help111> or jst ntfs?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> User01:  you could also have installed from a flash drive, not a cd/optical drive
[18:16] <derrick_> Hello. I have a video editing issue. I have a mpweg-1 avi video and a mps3 audio. How can I combine the. Avidemux just crashes if I tr it in there, and I don't want to transcode to another format, just insert the audio stream...
[18:16] <User01> dr_williss should have opted for somebody else than perhaps lol :(
[18:16] <derrick_> mpeg & mp3*
[18:16] <vishaltelangre> MKM, read comments on second article before going up... the ppa link in post may be broken, fixed is commented in comments' section!
[18:16] <kiamo> aw man!  Filesystem has become unreadable again T_T
[18:16] <DCGstudios> User01, overheating with laptops is MUCH different then a normal PC, its controlled with a series of heat pipes which tunnel the heat out of the back of the laptop, the battery heat itself generally doesnt matter.
[18:16] <Take0n> User01 ?? :P
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:16] <help111> Which filesystem 2 choose?
[18:16] <help111> ext3 or ext4?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> help111:  for what purpose?
[18:17] <mophead> OK everyone, Dr_Willis .  I got the audio working by opening firefox and using about:config and about: plugins to completely sudo rm -f all of the version 9 flash.  Then I installed flashplugin-installer and it worked!  Details found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469306&page=3 Thank you all again.
[18:17] <derrick_> help, ext4 is latest
[18:17] <help111> for installing ubuntu..
[18:17] <coz_> derrick_,  mm I am not much into video editing but there are other applicatons  "Handbrake"  is one  "pitivi"  another
[18:17] <MKM> vishaltelangre: k will do..., thnx:-)
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Help111: for flash based storage use ext2. Otherwise ext4 is fine
[18:17] <help111> i already have windows 7
[18:17] <help111> dual booting now.
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> help111:  the installre reccomends ext4 for a reason normally
[18:17] <User01> can't install from the desired laptop at all
[18:17] <derrick_> coz_, s ut h requre trancoding.I need to just *isert the srea
[18:17] <help111> Dr_Willis: hav 3gb for swap.. now tell me filesys for installing ubuntu on 17gb.
[18:17] <User01> drwillis I should have stated it only overhears on os installs
[18:18] <User01> overheats*
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Help111: ext4 will be fine
[18:18] <help111> alright.
[18:18] <Take0n> User01, tried to open and clean your laptop (fans etc.)?
[18:18] <coz_> derrick_,  mmm   well...as I mentioned... I am not nearly a expert on video editing... I am sure someone here... at least at some point...would know :)
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> help111:  you install Linxu to a linux filesystem.. ext2/3/4 normally
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> help111:  you dont install to fat/ntfs or other windows filesystems.
[18:19] <uLinux> tks for not helping
[18:19] <ohir> User01: are you talkin about moving physical hdd or copying its content to another pc?
[18:19] <User01> takeon everything except parting it out
[18:19] <User01> moving a physical hdd
[18:19] <vishaltelangre> help111, go for ext4, enhanced support...
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> User01:  get a laptop pad-fan...
[18:19] <help111> ActionParsnip: Dr_Willis can anyone tell me wud my other ntfs drives be readable thn?
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> User01:  and give it a good cleaning also.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> help111:  linux can mouint and access ntfs.. yes.
[18:20] <User01> drwillis thanks for the sugestion
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Help111: ntfs partitions are read and writable. You don't get ntfs drives ;)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs | help111
[18:20] <User01> but I stuck it up to my ac still to no avail
[18:20] <help111> Dr_Willis: thanks :) also m starting to dual boot now.. so now?
[18:20] <vishaltelangre> help111, linux can read almost what are you seeing there in the drop-down list
[18:20] <ohir> User01: if machine overheats at os install time it will be overheating too at any more demanding task (as mp3/mpeg play)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> help111:  so now what? be a bit more clear in your questions
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> !manual | help111
[18:21] <User01> ohir the funny thing is it's not
[18:21] <ohir> User01: box realy need to be treated with compressed air can plus vacuum cleaner :)
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> help111:  from windows you could just resize the windows partition and leave part of the HD unallocated. and boot the cd. and tell the installer to use the unalocated space.. it can auto partition and be working on the install in a matter of minets.
[18:22] <User01> ohir lol tried a can of compressed air hehe ^^
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Help111: if you are just starting a dual boot you should install windows to only a portion of the drive space and leave unpartitioned space for the other OSes. Saves having to mess around with resizing
[18:23] <vishaltelangre> help111: or you may free some space from your windows and use it to install your ubuntu
[18:23] <ohir> User01: I don't know then what might cause overheating at install time, install is not that computational power demanding task
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> User01: if your system is a branded thing or a laptop you may want to check if it has heat issues and how to fix it
[18:24] <User01> ohir: yeah it is sketchy lolz
[18:24] <sparkie> hello i need a little help my boot loader must have messed up during install now when i boot i come up to a menu that says grub> is there a way to boot and fix ?
[18:24] <ohir> User01: to remember is: you can freely move ubuntu on hd as long as it is not set up with proprietary nvidia/ati drivers and is moved to same architecture
[18:24] <help111> ActionParsnip: vishaltelangre Dr_Willis i have installed win7 already, even have kept 17gb for ubuntu n 3gb for swap.. now the question is it wud write the mbr
[18:24] <User01> ohir: Ok
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Help111: the installer will detect and configure the dual boot for you
[18:25] <help111> ActionParsnip: vishaltelangre Dr_Willis so how do i dual boot as the mbr wud b overwritten.. isnt it? or ubuntu wud create a dual boot menu ??
[18:25] <hiexpo> was reading online and it looks like getdeb lots its server may not be back
[18:25] <help111> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[18:25] <help111> thank you everyone..
[18:25] <help111> afk
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Help111: I recommend 6gb for / and the rest for /home
[18:26] <User01> i can always install new ati drivers but last time I could not find the right ones to work for compiz :)
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Help111: makes reinstalls easier (as well as backups)
[18:26] <ohir> User01: if you would copy it after, you need to remember to rewrite your /etc/fstab and grub configuration old (normal and sane) style. Aka without UUIDS.
[18:26] <User01> in the meantime I could use generic ones
[18:26] <wessel> How to check if my GPU gets sufficient cooling?
[18:26] <sparkie> hello i need a little help my boot loader must have messed up during install now when i boot i come up to a menu that says grub> is there a way to boot and fix ?
[18:26] <vishaltelangre> help111, It'll create mbr itself and install a grub bootloader to select out the installed systems
[18:27] <wessel> there is not GPU information in my :~ $ sensors  http://pastebin.com/mzd4FHHQ
[18:27] <wessel> :-/
[18:27] <User01> ohir: copy what after my friend
[18:28] <ohir> User01: ubuntu installed on one pc/hd to another pc/hd.
[18:28] <User01> ohir: yes
[18:29] <sparkie> so can any one help me?
[18:29] <User01> ohir: that's all I can ask for hehe
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Sparkie: boot to live cd and reinstall grub is one way
[18:29] <aucormie> sparkie...you may have to boot up witha  livecd
[18:30] <aucormie> chroot into your root directory and run grub-reinstall /dev/sda
[18:30] <aucormie> let me see if I can find you good directions
[18:30] <sparkie> ActionParsnip:  aucormie  i have no way to boot the live cd i used a usb and my bios dont support booting it
[18:30] <User01> if he's got an nv card and i have ati l will it sometimes autodetect hardware on boot
[18:30] <sparkie> i used plop boot attached to my bootloader to boot the usb
[18:31] <Guest54854> hi ..  In youtube when I click on the progress bar / maximize button it has no effect ..  When I keep clicking by moving the mouse pointer slightly again and again at some time it works ... Has anybody faced this problem ?? I have another site where any of my clicks on flash is not working .. Any solutions for this ???
[18:31] <sparkie> so is there a way todo it where im at right now?>
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sparkie: you can get grub floppys to then kick off a usb bootup
[18:31] <aucormie> sparkie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[18:31] <derrick_> for anyone that wants to combine a video and audio file, the cmd ffmpeg -i yourvid -i youraudio -map 0:0 -map 1:0 --aspect 16:9 output
[18:31] <nerdy_kid> anyone know how to check a luks encrypted ext4 filesystem for errors?
[18:31] <derrick_> will do it i believe
[18:31] <ubutom> User01, shouldn't be much of a problem
[18:31] <aucormie> sparkie: it may be possible, but its really hard and very specific to your configuration
[18:32] <sl0ppy> how does ubuntu configure itself to handle various hardware during boot? does it autodetect hardware and load modules like knoppix?
[18:32] <aucormie> liveCD is only sure way
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Derrick_: make a script which takes args ;) makes life easier if you use it a lot of times
[18:32] <User01> ubutom okay I'll be all smiles then lol
[18:32] <User01> thanks guys
[18:32] <ubutom> sl0ppy, think it's a pretty generic kernel and the drivers are autodetected
[18:32] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help.
[18:32] <derrick_> ActionParsnip, would, but I don't script bash
[18:32] <sl0ppy> i'm always wondering how it does the driver loading
[18:33] <User01> :P
[18:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders what gamepad viperswan  has - so he can get one to let him controll the mouse via a gamepad..
[18:34] <erUSUL> sl0ppy: the kernel does the hardware detection and loading of modules in most cases
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Derrick_: instead of yourvid use $1 and instead of youraudio use $2 and instead of output use $3 in a bash script. You can call it something like foo, you can now run: foo vid audio output ,and the filenames will be used in the script
[18:34] <sl0ppy> erUSUL: how does it know what modules to load
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Sl0ppy: look into udev ;)
[18:35] <erUSUL> sl0ppy: pci id or usb id's
[18:35] <xtalmath> does anyone know of a good file format reverse engineering tool? id like to search for floating point values, but I dont know how precise my numbers extracted from the reader are, and how they are stored.
[18:35] <derrick_> ActionParsnip, i know that much, just got my own things to do...
[18:35] <sl0ppy> ok thanks
[18:35] <ulkn> Guest54854: adobe flash is known broken. if you can't live without flash, the correct solution for you is to use windows
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Sl0ppy: it doesn't always get it right and the system needs telling ;)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Ulkn: how is it broken?
[18:36]  * Dr_Willis gives flash a C- on its linux support. :()
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> but it does work for me most of the time at least
[18:37] <ubutom> I thought just the 64 bit flash is buggy
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: 64bit native linux flash isn't too shabby support in my book
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  ive herad many people in here have good luck with the 64bit
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> ubutom:  See :)
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom: its alpha but isn't bad at all
[18:37] <sl0ppy> all my systems have used pretty much static fat kernels
[18:37] <drizzt_> anyone here knows how to enable HW acceleration in Radeon X800-series? The shitty opensores driver allows me only to run compiz
[18:37] <ubutom> Dr_Willis, I got some problems on my 64 bit desktop, not able to use the slider and so on on youtube
[18:37] <sl0ppy> since i just install on one box using one config of hardware
[18:38] <sl0ppy> i'm stuck in my old ways
[18:38] <d0x> Hi, i need the asm/semaphore.h for compiling a driver. Could someone help me to find the packaging containing this file(s)?
[18:38] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, yeah, it works, but some minor flaws like mentioned above
[18:38] <drizzt_> games have <1 fps
[18:38] <nerdy_kid> how do i force fsck.ext4 to check a filesystem?  I tried touching forcefsk in the root of the partition in trying to check but no help
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest54854: if you remove all flash plugins and use the command on the ubuntu flash doc you can get 64bit flash which doesn't use crappy nspluginwrapper
[18:38] <ahabman> How can one copy a full path and file name in one swoop?  Terminal or Nautilus.
[18:38] <Guest85921> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[18:38] <drizzt_> I have RV515 chipset if it matters
[18:39] <nerdy_kid> nvm got it
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom. Drizzt_: runs fine on my intel vga. Dual core 1.2ghz craptop
[18:39] <rakesh> hello a new b here
[18:39] <rakesh> can some one help me pls
[18:40] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, hehe, hey, that's no craptop :P Try using my 1Ghz Celeron with S3 graphics and temperature of the sun ;D
[18:40] <erUSUL> !ask | rakesh
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom. Drizzt_: as well am my nvidia 6150. Sempron64 1.6ghz desktop
[18:40] <vivgrn> i have a dell xps M 1530 . anyone using the xps studios ? are both these using the same kind of battery?  if this is not the right channel  ...  tell me where to ask such queries?
[18:40] <rakesh> thanks erUSUL
[18:40] <drizzt_> ActionParsnip, I'm not talking about flash
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Ubutom: yeah I never buy sysytems with s3 things
[18:40] <rakesh> i installed lucid linux today on my system in vmware
[18:40] <erUSUL> rakesh: done nothing yet ;)
[18:41] <ubutom> ActionParsnip, me neither, got it very cheap a few years ago, might replace it soon
[18:41] <rakesh> the look and feel of this is like ubuntu desktop
[18:41] <rakesh> can u help me how  i can change this to notebook edition look and feel???
[18:41] <h00k> vivgrn: this isn't the right channel, check with Dell's documentation probably
[18:42] <derrick_> Could someone tell me why I am getting a c fault error, http://paste.ubuntu.com/446751/
[18:42] <derrick_> This is avidemux. combining a avi and wav file, same with avi and mp3
[18:42] <rakesh> erUSUL can u pls help me
[18:43] <acicula> vivgrn, dell will list the type of batteries that are compatible
[18:43] <viperswan> hiya everyone. i was wondering if anyone could help me witha  quick and hopefully simple question.. I have a usb logitech gamepad/joystick and i'd like to be able to use it without emulating the mouse. everytime i plug it in it functions properly but it also takes over mouse functions, any idea how to prevent this behaviour? thank you in advance for your help.
[18:43] <erUSUL> rakesh: you can install the ubuntu-netbook metapackage. never tried it myself though
[18:43] <erUSUL> !info ubuntu-netbook
[18:43] <shazzr> !info flash
[18:44] <vivgrn1> acicula: how can i find that out. i have been trying to do that but to no avail till now
[18:44] <shazzr> !info gcompris
[18:44] <rakesh> where can i download that erUSUL
[18:44] <shazzr> !info java
[18:44] <rafaelsoaresbr> I did "cp --recursive --preserve=all /var /backup/var" and got "cp: reading '/var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs/ieee80211/phy0/statistics/dot11RTSSuccessCount' : Operation not suported. What's wrong?"
[18:44] <acicula> vivgrn, err you have to find the laptops product page or dells support page, im sure it'll have a list of compatible part numbers, if not you can always ask dell support directly via chat/email/phone what parts you need?
[18:44] <erUSUL> rakesh: use synaptic... System>Admin...> Synaptic. There are other ubuntu-netbook packages you may have to install
[18:45] <slow-motion> bye
[18:45] <goldins> hi how do I install sun's java?
[18:45] <erUSUL> !java | goldins
[18:45] <acicula> goldins, enable partner repo and you can install it
[18:45] <drizzt_> rafaelsoaresbr, exclude this directory then
[18:45] <The_Blob> rafaelsoaresbr: it cant copy the debugfs that's in there, either unmount it or add -x to cp so it restructs itself to one filesystem
[18:45] <Pip> Hello, I'm trying to recover my grub and when I was doing chroot from live CD 9.10, I got errors : chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[18:46] <The_Blob> *restricts
[18:46] <rakesh> hurray!!!!! i got it!!!! ill try installing and let u know erUSUL
[18:46] <RunnerGeek> is it just me or are the repositories slow?
[18:46] <rakesh> also can u pls tell me how to avoid the ubuntu from asking passwords everytime????
[18:47] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Its not just you.
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> rakesh everytime for what? login?
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> sweet
[18:47] <vivgrn1> acicula: battery .... its the worst that dell uses
[18:47] <RunnerGeek> ok when I try to install restricted extras it says the package is not found
[18:47] <drizzt_> any idea about Radeon X800 and opengl acceleration in Linux??
[18:48] <ntr0py> Has someone an idea how i can wait with gdm start for nvidia drivers beeing ready?
[18:48] <Pici> RunnerGeek: What is the exact package name that you are using?
[18:48] <RunnerGeek> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:48] <rakesh> hello <RunnerGeek> thanks for ur reply... no during login, but after login if i want to go to package manager or something similar it asks for a password
[18:48] <acicula> vivgrn1, err?
[18:49] <Chriisti> I have a problem, someone can help me? -> http://i47.tinypic.com/2zhgytf.png
[18:49] <Pici> RunnerGeek: You'll need to make sure that you have the multiverse repository enabled.
[18:49] <RunnerGeek> Pici, yeah I did that, but no go
[18:49] <shazzr> 3
[18:49] <ulkn> rakesh: consider using a one-letter password, or, the system permitting, a zero-letter one
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, I don't think you can disable that unless you login as root, which is a bad idea
[18:50] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Did you issue an apt-get update afterwards/
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> pici yup
[18:50] <help111> !help
[18:50] <banker247> whats a good movie player?
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> ulkn, that is bad advice
[18:50] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Does apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras list any candidates?
[18:50] <RunnerGeek> banker247, vlc
[18:50] <ulkn> RunnerGeek: in your *opinion*
[18:51] <RunnerGeek> Pici, ah not it is working, not sure what the deal was
[18:51] <Pici> RunnerGeek: Okay, /shrug
[18:51] <kreppnar> anyone else here having problems with the program gnomad2 segment faulting?
[18:51] <acicula> ulkn, setting a one letter password is a bad idea
[18:51] <banker247> will it provide codecs to play like in firefox?
 how can i login as root ?? let me give a try.... i never get root in the list of login names.......
[18:51] <acicula> ulkn, the system will tell you it is a bad idea when you try to set it
[18:51] <help111> wats the mount point to select at installation?
[18:51] <Pici> !sudo | rakesh
[18:51] <help111> !guide
[18:51] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, that is a bad idea, it makes your system very insecure
[18:51] <piyushmishra> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/PHP-SEO/Profitable-website.html rofl
[18:51] <help111> !guide
[18:52] <Pici> !ot | piyushmishra
[18:52] <help111> !install
[18:52] <piyushmishra> Pici: lol its too funny
[18:52] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, you only have to put in your password when you do administrative actions, it is a good thing as it protects your system
[18:52] <Pici> piyushmishra: Its not on-topic for this channel.
[18:52] <piyushmishra> Pici: I understand sorry
 ok , i got it,,, but still i want to login as a root and see wat all i can do more in my system... i just wat to give a try...
[18:53] <help111> wat should b selected as mount point? as /boot or /home or wat?
[18:54] <adaro> rakesh: Sudo su
[18:54] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, you can't do "more" you just won't be asked for passwords
 oh ok ok!!!!
[18:54] <Pici> adaro, rakesh: sudo su is redundant, use sudo -i or sudo -s, depending on what you want to do.
[18:54] <rakesh> by the way wats the default password for root??
[18:54] <help111> hey anyone? mount point while installating? / or /boot or /home or wat?
[18:54] <RunnerGeek> Pici, we where discussing logging in as root not just having a root terminal
[18:55] <Daekdroom> rakesh, it doesn't have a password
[18:55] <help111> RunnerGeek: can u help me out?
[18:55] <RunnerGeek> help111, just a big / is fine
[18:55] <help111> okay thanks RunnerGeek
[18:55] <kreppnar> anyone here have a Creatie Zen W Vision?
[18:55] <sparkie> kk once i reach the ubuntu live cd how to reinstall grub?
[18:55] <RunnerGeek> but having a /home isn't bad
[18:55] <Jordan_U> help111: I think you are probably better off going with the guided partitioning.
[18:55] <rakesh> oh wow!!!! ok ... today in class my professor told me that there is a username called "sa" and its password is also "sa" thru which v can login is it true in ubuntu???
[18:56] <RunnerGeek> if you make your own /home can easily do a fresh reinstall and not loose your stuff
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U: wat guided partitioning? i
[18:56] <Jordan_U> sparkie: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[18:56] <need-help> Can i create html page for web site by phpmyadmin in ubuntu?
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U: i have the partitions ready actually
[18:56] <RunnerGeek> rakesh, I am unaware of any sa user in any unix based OS
[18:56] <help111> Jordan_U:  chcking. .
 hmmmm
[18:56] <Pici> rakesh: That sounds like you are talking about some rdbms (database) software, not Ubuntu.
[18:57] <RunnerGeek> need-help, no; phpmyadmin is a web based administrative tool for mySQL
 no no!!!! he clearly told its there in linux
[18:57] <kriss3d> Dang. Aparently when i try to boot in recovery mode the text is nothing but alot of small colored squares in the top of my screen. i have to guess my way to log in. what could be wrong ?
[18:57] <resno> need-help: what do you mean create html? you can copy your page into ahtml file.
[18:57] <adaro> rakesh: Are you sure he wasnt talking about the database
[18:57] <Jordan_U> rakesh: He was probably talking about your schools particular setup either way.
[18:57] <Pici> rakesh: Then you should talk to him about it, as there is no sa user on Ubuntu (or any Linux distro I have used personally).
[18:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> The_Blob, thanks, '-x' seems to work, I want to move /var to another location.
[18:58] <help111> Jordan_U: so wat is guided partitioning?
 no.... he told when v forget the root username and pwd also v can use this and gain accesss to system
[18:58] <RunnerGeek> need-help, you can create an html page with any editor (gedit, vi, emacs)
[18:58] <help111> Jordan_U: i have my partitiosn ready 2 install .. jst wanted 2 know wat /home mount as means actually .
 hmmmm ill ask him again
[18:58] <ulkn> acicula: if you don't run a badly configured sshd, weak passwords shouldn't be a problem, except it gives worms a local root access, which they have anyway....
[18:58] <help111> anyways going with /
[18:58] <help111> RunnerGeek: jst choosing / wud giv me all isnt it?
[18:59] <RunnerGeek> need-help, but if you want a WYSIWYG editor try  NVU
[18:59] <pleasuredom> hi does anyone has a good software to convert flac into mp3
[18:59] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: ffmpeg?
[18:59] <help111> RunnerGeek: as in wud make it my cmplete ubuntu drive irght?
[18:59] <help111> right*
[18:59] <help111> partition*
[18:59] <need-help> RunnerGeek, i need to create a html page on remote site. If login with admin password then i got phpmyadmin only
[18:59] <RunnerGeek> help111, well it would make one parition for your whole install, yes
[18:59] <help111> RunnerGeek: okay thnkas
[18:59] <sogeking99> can anyone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504642
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> need-help, this isn't really an ubuntu question, you should discuss how to upload html files with your host
[19:00] <resno> sogeking99: can you state the problem, i doubt anyones going to follow a link
[19:00] <acicula> ulkn, weak passwords are always a problem, you cant fix ssh to not allow users with a simple password
[19:00] <help111> RunnerGeek: n the grub wud automatiaclly detect my win7?
[19:00] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: it is a command line tool, though, but you could probably find a graphical interface for it somewhere...
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> acicula, sure you can
[19:00] <RunnerGeek> help111, yes
 <RunnerGeek> <Jordan_U><adaro><ubottu> <erUSUL> thanks a lot for all of u people for helping me.....
[19:00] <sogeking99> well i installed the newest ATI drivers and rebooted, this may or may not be related to my issues. but since then things have been going slow. for example if i click and drag a window around it is really slow and jumpy.
[19:00] <sogeking99> also i updated compiz for some reason i cant change my compiz settings with the manager, all the check boxes are faded. and whether im on compiz or metacity the windowas have annoying animations.
[19:00] <sogeking99> finally i cant watch youtube videos in full screen suddenly, when i press the button it just turns the player into a grey box.
[19:00] <FloodBot1> sogeking99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <need-help> RunnerGeek, how?
[19:00] <erUSUL> rakesh: no problem
[19:00] <help111> going on wth installing
[19:00] <help111> cya later guyz
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> need-help, how what?
[19:01] <acicula> RunnerGeek,  you can disable  access thats not the same
[19:01] <help111> thank you everyone who helped me out :)
[19:01] <Jordan_U> help111: You're welcome.
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> acicula, no you can setup password policies or you can set ssh for keys only
[19:01] <ev350> hello
[19:01] <pleasuredom> frxstrem thanks for the info
[19:01] <rakesh> bye all,,, ill be back if i need some help\
[19:01] <resno> hey ev350
[19:01] <kreppnar> anyone here having segmentation faults with the program called Gnomad2?
[19:01] <RunnerGeek> keys > passwords
[19:01] <bove> How can I set the xserver to permit connections from localhost?
[19:01] <solow> in windows, i can just use ipconfig to get the default gateway, how is this done in ubuntu?
[19:02] <need-help> RunnerGeek, uploading html page as index.php so that world wide can brows  ?
[19:02] <frxstrem> pleasuredom: also, if you're converting to MP3, you would want to have libmp3lame installed too
[19:02] <acicula> RunnerGeek, a password policy focusses on passwords not ssh ;). but yeah keys are a good measure. There are more ways to root then just ssh though, so it still pays to set proper passwords to begin with
[19:02] <sogeking99> can anyone help me with this?
[19:02] <RunnerGeek> need-help, you need to discuss that with your host
[19:02] <ev350> hay, im new to linux, im sorta getting there ^^ im just wonderin how do you compile a .py fle in the terminal?
[19:02] <RunnerGeek> acicula, well right, but with a password policy you can prevent weak passwords
[19:03] <xand__> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[19:03] <frxstrem> ev350: I believe that is more a question for #python
[19:03] <drizzt_> ev350, run python and do: import <your module>
[19:03] <acicula> RunnerGeek, well thats what it does now i suppose, except it just warns instead of strictly enforcing it
[19:03] <ev350> ok thank you :)
[19:03] <RunnerGeek> acicula, well you can make it strictly enforce it
[19:03] <RunnerGeek> my client's server does
[19:03] <pleasuredom> frxstrem: ok.  thx again
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:05] <profxavier> oy oy oY
[19:05] <solow> never mind my previous question, i have a new one. how do I connect to my pc *ubuntu* via putty?
[19:05] <derik> can skype be used with ubuntu?
[19:06] <kreppnar> could anyone help me with mounting a MTP device?
[19:06] <profxavier> solow, using ssh
[19:06] <solow> profxavier, I have ssh tagged, but it times out
[19:06] <profxavier> solow, when installing, I am assuming ?
[19:07] <kriss3d> Can anyone tell me what could be the problem with my ubuntu ? suddenly i cant see the login screen. I have to sorta guess what its doing to get into ubuntu normal mode. it only shows a bit colored squares in the top. like totally garbled graphics if that makes any sense
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Solow: can you ping the ssh serving system?
[19:07] <solow> profxavier, I'm doing something odd here. I've installed virtualbox, with windows 7 on a machine. now I'm trying to use my host OS as server. so trying to log in with putty from windows :p
[19:07] <profxavier> solow, when installing packages, if things dont go the way they should, its pretty helpful to install via command line, to see the errors and work with them...
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Kriss3d: what video card?
[19:07] <Guest16124> I am willing to make the complete switch to linux if and only if there is a equivlent to peer block
[19:08] <profxavier> solow, you are using putty on your windows 7 machine and ubuntu has sshd installed and running ?
[19:08] <RunnerGeek> solow, you need to install ssh-server on the server
[19:08] <profxavier> thx RunnerGeek
[19:08] <RunnerGeek> also you can look at things like vnc if you want gui remote access
[19:08] <solow> aaah
[19:08] <jamil_1> Hello, When i do wget www.google.com I get a 403 forbidden response.
[19:08] <solow> did not know that
[19:08] <resno> jamil_1: why would try to wget google.com?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Solow: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Solow: its not installed by default
[19:08] <h0rnman> kreppnar: MTP is a tricky critter...i have had the most success by writing a script that uses gvfs to unmount the device and then remount it as MTP, but it took me a while to get it right
[19:08] <inveratulo> resno: I could think of a few reasons
[19:09] <jamil_1> resno: because I have few scripts that use wget
[19:09] <solow> ActionParsnip, this won't make my ubuntu unsafe now will it?
[19:09] <resno> jamil_1: well, thats not going to work. they are blocking it.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest16124: what does it do?
[19:09] <inveratulo> resno: i just wget google.com , and it came back with index.
[19:09] <rafaelsoaresbr> how to rename a folder in terminal?
[19:09] <jamil_1> resno: who is blocking it ? my isp ?
[19:09] <solow> ActionParsnip, woohoo! I'm in! thanks a lot :)
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Solow: no, its fine and uses encryption
[19:10] <inveratulo> if you do a -r (don't do this!) it will pull down some other stuff
[19:10] <h0rnman> kreppnar: you will also need to install MTPFS (or whatever the MTP filesystem package is)
[19:10] <resno> jamil_1: this isnt a ubuntu issue, i suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:10] <RunnerGeek> solow, sort of, any time you open a service you open up for possible risk.  SSH is fairly safe and used on millions of server around the world
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Solow: just keep root disabled (default in ubuntu) and you are fine
[19:10] <ColMustard> hello
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Rafaelsoresbr: mv name newname
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> solow, I would recommend setting to a non default port, using iptables to restrict what clients can connect and setting the config to be secure, also using keys instead of passwords
[19:11] <frxstrem> solow: as long as you use a secure password and stuff (common sense), it should not be a big risk (although it's a little tiny risk)
[19:11] <jamil_1> resno: I think it is perhaps ubuntu related issue because It was working fine before upgrading to 10.04
[19:11] <ScoobyDoo> I'm going to install python 3.0, Do I need to uninstall the previous version or keep them both?
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> ScoobyDoo, you can do both
[19:11] <resno> jamil_1: so why didnt you say that?
[19:11] <profxavier> solow, research creating keys, some say its easy [i dont personally], and use keys [rather than passwords]
[19:11] <solow> I have a password like: h62rYbQM *it's not it, but the same layout*
[19:11] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Do not remove the 2.x version of python.
[19:11] <RunnerGeek> i don't think py3k is released yet, still beta isn't it?
[19:11] <kreppnar> h0rnman: yeah i got all that installed, gnomad2 keeps crashing on me while it reads the device. Amarok works, but i can only send music to it..nothing like videos or photos
[19:11] <ScoobyDoo> Ah thanks Pici
[19:11] <jamil_1> resno: I am really sorry for that
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> oh python how I love you
[19:12] <Pici> RunnerGeek: We're already up to 3.1
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> oh wow, turns out python.com is p0rn
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> wtf over
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> ORG
[19:12] <profxavier> .net ?
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> ;)
[19:12] <profxavier> ah, org
[19:12] <h0rnman> kreppnar: like I said, the prebuilt solutions that I messed around with never did what I wanted them to...I had to write my own script to do the mounting
[19:12] <mike11> guys, how do I make my front panel audio work on  headphones. no sound comes out.  but it's ok on windows.
[19:12] <RunnerGeek> haha silly me
[19:12] <help111> Wher can i find a beginner's guide to ubuntu?
[19:12] <profxavier> help111 google ?
[19:12] <help111> haha
[19:13] <kreppnar> h0rnman: would you happen to still have that script?
[19:13] <ColMustard> anyone had any luck configuring thttpd on Ubuntu? I installed it with aptitude, configured it, tried /etc/init.d/thttpd start and I get nothing. It doesn't appear to be listening on port 80 either
[19:13] <help111> tried nthing great as sch ..
[19:13] <RunnerGeek> help111, ubuntuguide.org
[19:13] <h0rnman> kreppnar: not on the machine I am working on
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: haha awesome
[19:13] <profxavier> help111: the ubuntu 'guide' is excellent
[19:13] <kreppnar> h0rnman: ah ok
[19:13] <help111> RunnerGeek: thanks
[19:13] <help111> profxavier: chcking it out :)
[19:13] <h0rnman> kreppnar: but it didn't take a whole lot of work to get going (i think its around 15 lines long) using gvfs-***** commands to get the mount type correct
[19:14] <kreppnar> h0rnman: so it pretty much mounted it as a mass storage device, and you were able to just drag and drop files into folders?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Help111: I recommend just using the OS.  Grub cannot afaik
[19:16] <jamil_1> resno: can you propose any solution  ?
[19:16] <resno> insider: sure
[19:16] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: grub2 I have.
[19:16] <h0rnman> kreppnar: not by default.  The problem is that Ubuntu /does/ mount it as Mass Storage.  Unfortunately, MTP requires a specific method of access for the device to recognize what you are sending to it (for this example, I have a Creative ZEN), and if you just copy files over in Mass Storage mode, the player won't recognize the file.  You need to unmount the device as a Mass Storage device, and remount is as a proper MTP device
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Insider: if 9.10 is working for you then i'd keep it. Its supported until april next year so there's life in it yet
[19:17] <iceroot> insider: never touch a running system
[19:17] <kreppnar> h0rnman: i see, yeah im using the Creative Zen w Vision
[19:17] <resno> jamil_1: can you run wget in other cases?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: then yes you can ;)
[19:17] <Guest16124> I hate linux it dosent have an alterntive to peerblock
[19:17] <RunnerGeek> insider, i think so, also it is a LTS :)
[19:17] <insider> resno: my laptop configuration is 2Gb Ram, core2duo 2ghz, i suggest 10.04 would be slow
[19:17] <h0rnman> kreppnar: yeah, so I am guessing that you had the same problem I did
[19:17] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Wonder how then... hints?
[19:17] <jamil_1> resno: for instance ?
[19:17] <kreppnar> h0rnman: yeah pretty much
[19:17] <resno> jamil_1: try yahoo.com
[19:17] <RunnerGeek> insider, that is about my laptop and it is fast
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest16124: you never told me what it is so I have no way to give alternatives.  I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:18] <theadmin> resno: Hah, nearly same here, and runs sweeeet
[19:18] <insider>  fillayy: it's maybe funny)
[19:18] <mike11> anyone has had success (or troubles) on making front audio jack work for desktop?
[19:18] <jamil_1> resno: Same error with yahoo. Also I forgot to tell you that I am behind a proxy and I have set the http_proxy environment variable
[19:18] <xomp> Hello, getting "You have new mail" when logging into ubuntu via SSH. Typing "mail" doesn't seem to work for me "-bash: mail: command not found
[19:18] <xomp> " how can I read the mail message waiting for me?
[19:19] <solow> I'm trying to view my local server. this works with <IP_ADDRESS> and my ip address. But I'd like to know id there is any other way, such as my default gateway. *as i want to access it in my lan network*
[19:19] <h0rnman> kreppnar: I don't have the script, but my hack was to grab a list of devices via 'lsusb' then grep for the line that contains 'MTP', then use AWK to separate device ID and BUS ID , then finally use gvfs-mount -u (i think) to unmount the device, and 'gvfs-mount MTP' (or something similar) to remount it as a MTP device
[19:19] <resno> jamil_1: your configuration is more complication then i know how to handle.
[19:19] <iceroot> xomp: mail
[19:19] <StaRetji> bazhang: if I do, dpkg --configure -a it will again trey to generete intrd.img and will hang again. Thx for any help
[19:19] <xomp> iceroot, Typing "mail" doesn't seem to work for me "-bash: mail: command not found" as I originally said.
[19:20]  * h0rnman cringes at the sloppiness of that
[19:20] <theadmin> Is there any real danger on removing gnome-terminal for GNOME, like will it break anythin?
[19:20] <iceroot> xomp: then install the mailclient for the terminal
[19:20] <kreppnar> h0rnman: why doesn't lsusb show where the hardware is connected though? isn't there a way to show that? i mean it shows that its there and connected..sure..but where?
[19:20] <RunnerGeek> theadmin, why would you want to do that, but no it shouldn't hurt anything
[19:20] <xomp> iceroot, apt-get install mailclient <-?
[19:20] <theadmin> kreppnar: See the output of mount
[19:20] <iceroot> xomp: apt-get install mail
[19:20] <RunnerGeek> people use mail?
[19:20] <theadmin> RunnerGeek: Cause I'm having certain issues with gnome-terminal so I preffer roxterm to it
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: http://ansi.interblc.com/2010/02/06/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[19:21] <xomp> iceroot, "E: Couldn't find package mail
[19:21] <xomp> "
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !info mail
[19:21] <iceroot> xomp: then it was mailx
[19:21] <h0rnman> kreppnar: lsusb should show a busid and a deviceid (in square brackets), but I might be thinking of a different command that I used
[19:21] <solow> actually i'm sure the default gateway works, I'm just wondering how I can find it within ubuntu
[19:21] <iceroot> !info mailx
[19:21] <StaRetji> Dudes, help out here, please, I'm having a problem with apt-get install or remove loop
[19:21] <RunnerGeek> mutt is much better than mail
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Solow: run: route
[19:21] <iceroot> xomp: hm, ok,  then it is not in lucid...
[19:21] <Guest16124> ActionParsnip, in my own oponion peerblock is one of the best ways of staying safe online. see it for youre self at http://www.peerblock.com/
[19:21] <theadmin> ubottu: info bsd-mailx
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: in your opinion ;)
[19:21] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: we dont need "is better then"
[19:21] <resno> StaRetji: a bit more detail would go a long way in getting help
[19:21] <theadmin> gah
[19:21] <xomp> iceroot, got it with bsd-mailx thanks :)
[19:22] <theadmin> ubottu: Is not listening to me :/
[19:22] <iceroot> xomp: ah ok
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> ActionParsnip, have you ever used mail before?
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> very basic
[19:22] <solow> ActionParsnip, the default appears to contain, alphabetical symbols...
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: if basic is required then its ideal
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> bah
[19:22] <StaRetji> resno: thx dude, I was advised to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process. I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc. I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:22] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: and comes with every normal system (dont know why it is missing in lucid)
[19:22] <Pici> !info bsd-mailx | theadmin
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: there is no better or best
[19:22] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: would ipblock work for you? http://iplist.sourceforge.net/
[19:22] <RunnerGeek> xomp, if you can't get mail try mutt or pine
[19:23] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: so have fun writing scrips for other system for sending mails with mutt in your script
[19:23] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: should have said iplist
[19:23] <StaRetji> resno: if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic"
[19:23] <Guest88080> can i ask questions ?
[19:23] <iceroot> !ask | Guest88080
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: if you grab a hosts file from a windows machine after immunising with spybot search and destroy it can hep a lot. You can stay safe online by avoiding "dodgy" sites
[19:24] <fengchu> 不会用阿
[19:24] <iceroot> !cn | fengchu
[19:24] <xomp> iceroot, I have this message "/root/db_backup/stats_dump_cron.sh: 14: cannot create /db_backup/stats_20100608.sql.gz: Directory nonexistent
[19:24] <xomp> mysqldump: Got errno 32 on write
[19:24] <xomp> " any idea how to resolve?
[19:24] <RunnerGeek> ActionParsnip, ?
[19:24] <theadmin> Pici: Thanks. Sorry to be rude but could you please make Ubottu accept the info and find factoids without the "!" and with "ubottu: command" somehow? I can't start the message with a ! for specific reasons
[19:24] <resno> StaRetji: im dont know how to help you. i am just saying youll get more help that way.
[19:24] <Guest16124> Nuboon2Age, wow thanks man
[19:24] <StaRetji> resno: ah, ok dude
[19:24] <Pici> theadmin: I will, but if you're looking for information for yourself, you should be doing it in a private message with ubottu, not in channel.
[19:24] <iceroot> xomp: look at the script what it is trying to do and why it needs a file and how it is created
[19:25] <StaRetji> I was advised to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process. I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc. I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:25] <StaRetji> if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic"
[19:25] <Guest88080> why is that the twinkle have low volume
[19:25] <pleasuredom> frxstrem: i'am trying soundconverter
[19:25] <theadmin> Pici: I'm not, I wanted to display it to help someone here
[19:25] <theadmin> Pici: He was looking for mailx
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: the quality of an app needs to be compared against requirements as well as taste. Many people think firefox is the best browser wheras I think it is garbage. Just like there is no best browser or best OS, there is no best mail program
[19:25] <Guest88080> how can i adjust the volume of twinkle
[19:26] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Firefox might be a meh yeah but garbage? Come on... It's not that bad really :/
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Runnergeek: so you saying mutt is better than mail is moot as the user may actively use mail already and find it absolutely fine
[19:26] <kriss3d> ActionParsnip,  sorry i had to help my daughter.. its an ATI 2600 card
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I really hate it
[19:26] <xand__> hello everyone, there is this amsn port test tool which tells me whether these ports are ok for use with it. Is there another app i can do this sort of testing ? Already tried "nc -v -z -w2" on the ports and they do not show, even if they are ok
[19:26] <clarnist> hello guys
[19:27] <RunnerGeek> well as a client  it is better, but mail is more designed to be able to pipe files into it
[19:27] <Guest94362> is ubuntu 64bit stable
[19:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: if you dont like firefox, try iceweasel :)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kriss3d
[19:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Well, my favorite browser. Taste differs.
[19:27] <clarnist>  i update kde to 4.5 beta and it's actualise me a qtcreator to version 2
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: I use arora and chromium daily
[19:27] <theadmin> Guest94362: It is stable but it has problems with certain stuff like flash
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: indeed :)
[19:27] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: Sure, no prob.  I found it by going to http://alternativeto.net/desktop/peerblock-/
[19:27] <Guest94362> which flash is to use
[19:27] <RunnerGeek> you can say something is better if it is designed to do something where the other isn't really designed for it
[19:27] <frxstrem> is it possible to add an option to the GRUB menu that would allow me to boot up Ubuntu without starting the graphical interface (only command line)?
[19:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Compare with IE and you'll know what I mean by 'not that bad'
[19:27] <kriss3d> ActionParsnip, ty ill try that.. its quite odd.. im in ubuntu now.. works fine. but when i boot the login screen is all garbled and small.. but once im inside it works like a charm.. it was all the suddenly
[19:28] <Guest88080> theadmin :how can i adjust the volume of my twinkle
[19:28] <RunnerGeek> frxstrem, disable gdm
[19:28] <clarnist> when I start it they send http://pastebin.com/hiLgNaHA
[19:28] <iceroot> RunnerGeek: ok and now lets stop this "is better then" or lets take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:28] <theadmin> Guest88080: No idea what twinkle even is
[19:28] <Nuboon2Age> Guest16124: http://alternativeto.net/ is pretty useful that way
[19:28] <frxstrem> RunnerGeek: well, won't that permanently make me unable to autostart Gnome? (I just want an option to use command line only)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I haven't used windows as my desktop in a while. We use IE at work but we use windows desktops but I don't do much browsing to notice
[19:28] <cyborgsmurf> Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> frxstrem, i am not sure if you could do that with grub
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> you could set it to go into single user mode
[19:29] <capletonX> Hey, is there a queue or do I just post when topics are finished?
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> that might be good for what you want
[19:29] <cyborgsmurf> I use Ubuntu btw
[19:29] <RunnerGeek> capletonX, just ask when you are ready
[19:29] <shazzr> Is there a way to connect to a Novel network from and Ubuntu machine?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: what is the output of: uname -a
[19:29] <Guest88080> theadmin its a app just like magic jack
[19:29] <Pici> capletonX: Just jump in and ask.
[19:29] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yuck, Windows in corporate environments :/
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: I don't make the rules
[19:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yeah well. That's something to hate this world for, you have to follow em. And as for that, we'll have to follow the rules and stop the offtopic talk
[19:30] <RunnerGeek> shazzr, I would think you can seeing as novel owns suse
[19:30] <capletonX> Okay, well conkyforecast is no longer getting information from weather.com and it isn't reading the .cache anymore.  How can I fix it?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: all our ESX servers use redhat though ;)
[19:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: What on earth is ESX? Gosh, I read that as sex at first :/
[19:31] <Pici> !ot
[19:31] <iceroot> theadmin: vmware operation system
[19:31] <capletonX> Is there a way I can check to see if I am still registered with weather.com's xoap service?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: runs vmware server, let's quit offtopic now a-la pici ;)
[19:31] <sogeking99> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu the way it was when i first got ubuntu?
[19:32] <theadmin> sogeking99: ...reinstall it?
[19:32] <Balgan> guys i know this is probably not the right channel to ask BUT say i need to build new server for ESX am gonna have to simulate some networks so like a IDS,Honeypot,Firewall,webserver,ftpserver all on different virtual machines
[19:32] <Guest94362> ActionParsnip Linux marc-laptop-ubuntu 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 22:02:19 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:32] <Balgan> what sort of specs am i looking at ?
[19:32] <sogeking99> i have a '/' and a '/home' partition
[19:32] <cyborgsmurf> (I use Ubuntu9.10) Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:32] <shazzr> RunnerGeek: Thanks. What would be a more suitable channel to follow up on that sort of a challenge?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Sogeking: remove all the .g×* folders in home. They are hidden. Do it in root recovery console. I'd move them to a folder for holding
[19:32] <derrick_> Hello, I actrually got my vid created, but for some reason it created 20 audio streams! how do I get rid of these
[19:32] <RunnerGeek> Balgan, you don't want to/can't really have an IDS, honeypot, on the same machine as your real server
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ,flash is yours
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> the IDS needs to be in between the server and router
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> a honeypot should be on a different network entirely
[19:33] <Balgan> yeah RunnerGeek they will be running on separate networks etc even though it will all be runnign on ESX
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest94362: make sure you remove gnash and swfdec if you have it
[19:33] <RunnerGeek> oh ok
[19:33] <ScoobyDoo> I've installed python3-tk but I still can't use from tkinter import ttk
[19:33] <Balgan> so what i need to know is what sort of specs to i need for a 5/6 VM up 24/7
[19:33] <sogeking99> is there like a recovery feature?
[19:33] <pcfreak30> How do I get rid of extra audio channels
[19:33] <Balgan> on ESX
[19:34] <theadmin> ScoobyDoo: Ubuntu uses Python2. If you need to write a python3 script, make sure to run it with python3
[19:34] <cyborgsmurf> how can I click play in YouTube? (Ubuntu9.10)
[19:34] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: I'm just writing a small python 3 script with ttk and tkinter.. works here
[19:35] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: Yesterday I learned the basics of how to use ubottu.  As the other person said you go into private session with it and then to find out about its capabilities  ! ubottu | theadmin or whatever subject you're interested in.
[19:35] <ScoobyDoo> theadmin thats what I get when i use python 3.0.1+
[19:35] <NCS_One> hi
[19:35] <ScoobyDoo> I can import tkinter but not ttk
[19:35] <theadmin> Nuboon2Age: I _can't_ start a message with a !, it thinks that's a terminal command to execute and send the output
[19:35] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: tried import tkinter.ttk as ttk ?
[19:36] <NCS_One> is it possible to hide the window title bar ?
[19:36] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: Oh, now I get it. hmmm...
[19:36] <wildman> hello #ubuntu
[19:36] <Pici> theadmin: What IRC client are you using?
[19:36] <theadmin> NCS_One: Kill the window manager? :/
[19:36] <theadmin> Pici: Pidgin
[19:36] <ScoobyDoo> Slart No module named ttk
[19:36] <Balgan> so RunnerGeek any ideas on those specs ? :)
[19:36] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: hang on.. let me check how I'm doing it
[19:36] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: are you running somebody else's code or preparing to write your own?
[19:36] <NCS_One> theadmin: hehe
[19:36] <RunnerGeek> theadmin, pidgin runs commands if you type !<command>, a feature I was unaware of
[19:36] <cyborgsmurf> (I use Ubuntu9.10) Editor in Lbreakout2 dosen't show the bonus contents. Why isn't it shown?
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> crdlb Trying to write my own
[19:37] <Gornjak> Is there a way to restore deleted folders in your /home/~/ directory? I've deleted Video, Audio, etc. a long time ago and just discovered I can point them to folders on my external hd.
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> I haven't restarted since the install?
[19:37] <Nuboon2Age> theadmin: I moved to Konversation.  I'm very pleased w/ it.
[19:37] <ScoobyDoo> I doubt thats it though
[19:37] <hellwolf06[web]> Hi all
[19:37] <wildman> I've seen some nice things on 10.04's desktop, like the (un)maximize maximized windows by dragging them near the top of the screen (à la Windows 7), can two open windows be put in a kind of Midnight/Norton Commander two-pane disposition with a similar trick? if so, which trick? thanks in advance
[19:37] <bolster> Anyone know how to control the amount of 'slug' messages in xchat, such as 'such and such quit the room' etc?
[19:37] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: I use.    import tkinter, tkinter.ttk as ttk   and I'm using python 3, not sure if eclipse does anything sneaky behind my back to make it work though
[19:37] <hellwolf06[web]> I am banned at ubuntu-ru so i wanna ask you
[19:38] <RunnerGeek> Balgan, I misread your question at first, you are just looking for hardware specs for an ESX server?
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> Just because i asked a question but not joked
[19:38] <ubutom> bolster, wight click the channel tab and select hide jin/part messages
[19:38] <ScoobyDoo> Slart No module named ttk
[19:38] <bolster> ubutom any way of setting that as the default?
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> Hey guys i have a question: How can i know the time in terminal
[19:38] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: date
[19:38] <ScoobyDoo> Perhaps I shouldn't use ttk?
[19:38] <ubutom> bolster, will be saved if you quit xchat
[19:38] <hellwolf06[web]> echo $(time) doesn't work
[19:39] <bolster> hellowolf date
[19:39] <ubutom> bolster, but can also e set in options me thinks
[19:39] <ScoobyDoo> what's the next best one?
[19:39] <bolster> ubutom thanks!
[19:39] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Next best what?
[19:39] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici date works echo $(date)
[19:39] <ScoobyDoo> Python GUI making language
[19:39] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: I strongly suggest you use python 2.x for now, and port your script to python 3.x in the future with 2to3.py
[19:39] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: Er, yes, but thats the same thing as just doing   date
[19:39] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: pygtk for example has not been ported yet
[19:40] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: This is probably a better topic for #python
[19:40] <ScoobyDoo> Pici nobody seems to know anything in there
[19:40] <the_file> how big are the performance differences between ubuntu netbook and desktop?.
[19:40] <ScoobyDoo> I'll try in 2. whatever
[19:40] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici, i have already wrote syntax error token unexpected
[19:40] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: hmm.. I wonder if I had to install anything special to make it work.. odd
[19:40] <the_file> Im thinking of using ubuntu desktop for a netbook
[19:40] <RunnerGeek> ScoobyDoo, I haven't messed with python in over a year sorry :)
[19:40] <the_file> and does ubuntu netbootk version allow for compiz effects plugin?.
[19:41] <Pici> ScoobyDoo: Thats because no one runs 3.0
[19:41] <RunnerGeek> netbooks have 3d cards?
[19:41] <Nuboon2Age> ! ubottu | theadmin
[19:41] <rfzero> the_file, yes
[19:41] <Slart> ScoobyDoo: you have python3-tk installed?
[19:41] <rfzero> just install compizconfig
[19:41] <ScoobyDoo> Slart Yup
[19:41] <qwerty987> how to measure windows width and height? is there any application from x server?
[19:41] <rfzero> RunnerGeek, yep they do, intel ones
[19:41] <ScoobyDoo> 2.6.2  says samething
[19:42] <wildman> qwerty987: appart from taking a snapshot and measuring in gimp... I dunno
[19:42] <ubutom> the_file, am using lubuntu right now on an old laptop, have enabled the netbook look and I dig it
[19:42] <soreau> the_file: If it's not intel, probably yes (for compiz)
[19:42] <wildman> snapshot -> screenshot, but you got it I guess
[19:42] <Pici> qwerty987: I *think* that xwininfo provides that information
[19:42]  * ScoobyDoo Off to find a new language to make the GUI in
[19:42] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: what's wrong with python 2?
[19:42] <soreau> the_file: intel gpus have been blacklisted for compiz due to driver issues
[19:42] <ubutom> the_file, don't know much about netbook remix though
[19:42] <soreau> most of them anyway
[19:42] <the_file> soreau: I preffer amd =)
[19:42] <wildman> I've seen some nice things on 10.04's desktop, like the (un)maximize maximized windows by dragging them near the top of the screen (à la Windows 7), can two open windows be 'snapped' in a kind of Midnight/Norton Commander two-pane disposition with a similar trick? if so, which trick? thanks in advance
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: amd is a great powerhouse for 3d shit
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: Excellent. But does this netbook have an ati card?
[19:43] <Pici> the_file: Please mind your language here.
[19:43] <ScoobyDoo> crdlb same thing, there no modual called ttk
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: oww I am still shopping for a netbook
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: you'll want to watch your language here
[19:43] <soreau> the_file: But amd/ati is a great choice IMHO
[19:43] <StaRetji> I was advised on this channel to install bootchart to see what's holding boot process.
[19:43] <StaRetji> I tried installing bootchart via apt-get (live usb system with persistent storage) and it hanged the pc.
[19:43] <StaRetji> I rebooted and now I'm stuck in a loop, can't use apt-get anymore, just dpkg --configure -a
[19:43] <StaRetji> if I use dpkg --configure -a it will hang again while trying to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-21-generic" I can see that new initrd.img is generated, but pc hangs.
[19:43] <FloodBot1> StaRetji: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <the_file> soreau: yep amd/ait is my favorite pair
[19:44] <hellwolf06[web]> hey guys what the problem with this echo $(time)
[19:44] <crdlb> ScoobyDoo: tk is a very poor toolkit anyway
[19:44] <mugwort13> has anyone tried using desktop hardware to run a linux server?  I'm curious about success/fail stories with different setups.
[19:44] <rfzero> the_file, the best netbook you'll find is probably a intel atom-based one, ubuntu totally supports the hardware
[19:44] <lun4tic> is there any way to get these: http://www.fifa.com/newscentre/widgets/index.html on my desktop? in form of screenlets of something like that
[19:45] <wildman> mugwort13: I have a Samba server running on a desktop-class machine w/o pbs
[19:45] <Pici> mugwort13: I've had no issues running Ubuntu Server on any desktop hardware.
[19:45] <wildman> mugwort13: 20-30 users, so no big load though
[19:45] <Wolfmanz51> so i keep getin this error from my package manger
[19:45] <ubutom> the_file, there are some amd notebooks that are cheaper than netbooks and yet more powerfull, as the compaq 615 for example, 2,2 ghz amd processor, 1024mb ram(upgrade advised), ATI Mobility 3200 and 160gb hdd
[19:45] <Pici> hellwolf06[web]: bash scripting questions are better directed towards #bash
[19:46] <hellwolf06[web]> Pici, thx
[19:46] <the_file> soreau: amd is great for 3d and will probably work great for compiz plugin
[19:46] <soreau> the_file: Yes, it will. The open driver is great and also you have option of fglrx for HD ati cards
[19:47] <mugwort13> wildman: Pici:  thanks
[19:47] <Xeli>  Could anyone think of a reason why my program does not run under root, the owner is root and the set uid bit is set with chmod 4770, it does run, just not under root...
[19:47] <hellwolf06[web]> Wolfmanz51, like wolfs?
[19:47] <soreau> the_file: AFAIK, compiz works on UNR but you might want to make sure
[19:47] <soreau> ! unr | the_file
[19:48] <wildman> mugwort13: yw
[19:48] <blackxored> hi i'm running lucid, i installed skype from the partner repo and setup an account, I can't even call the test call
[19:48] <blackxored> can't find any users
[19:48] <blackxored> can't chat with any
[19:48] <the_file> soreau: does compiz plugin with the 3d box and all come default in ubuntu or do u got to install it thru the software center?.
[19:48] <the_file> I never used it
[19:48] <the_file> =(
[19:48] <trism> hellwolf06[web]: time is a command to time the execution of other programs, if you want to echo the time, use date
[19:48] <blackxored> it's my machine, my network, what is it?
[19:48] <the_file> thought I have seen so many inredible videos of it!
[19:49] <soreau> the_file: cube is part of core, but ubuntu stopped installing compiz-plugins-extra by default (mostly unrelated to cube)
[19:49] <solow> how do i force quit something. my updater crashed and won't go away. freakin annoying
[19:49] <hellwolf06[web]> trism THX
[19:49] <Slart> solow: xkill, pkill, kill
[19:49] <soreau> the_file: So yes, cube comes installed by default but you'll want ccsm to config it
[19:49] <Wolfmanz51> dpkg: unrecoverable fattle eror, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. Trying to recover
[19:49] <the_file> soreau: wow I didn't know that
[19:49] <blackxored> I can't find any users on skype, running lucid, can someone help me on this//???
[19:49] <solow> Slart, how?
[19:50] <the_file> soreau: very impressive
[19:50] <solow> Slart, better even, where? it's running in UI not terminal.
[19:50] <Slart> solow: xkill lets you click on a window you want to kill, pkill someprocess  will kill all processes named "someprocess", kil <pid> will kill the process with the process id <pid>
[19:50] <the_file> linux is just such a productive os, hassle free, very good looking, and free
[19:50] <the_file> its just great and customizable
[19:51] <solow> slart, omg it killed my taskbar
[19:51] <Wolfmanz51> so my dpkg is failing can some one Help this is my error dpkg: unrecoverable fattle eror, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. trying to recover
[19:51] <bolster> blackxored repo version of skype?
[19:51] <mike11> /proc/asound/card0/codec#2:Codec: Realtek ALC888 <-- is this the codec name? most of what I googled doesn't seem to have a space
[19:51] <solow> slart, now my taskbar is gone and it was asking me to delete stuff
[19:51] <rocket16> solow: You can reset gnome-panels, to fix that up,
[19:52] <solow> how?
[19:52] <rocket16> !resetpanel | solow
[19:52] <Slart> solow: why not try rebooting..see if it comes back
[19:52] <StaRetji> I really need advanced help here folks http://paste.ubuntu.com/446789/ THX!!!
[19:52] <bolster> blackxored stock lucid build, no weirdness, and a custom network indicates you have (the correct) deny all firewall setup.
[19:52] <solow> grrr
[19:52] <solow> brb
[19:52] <CarlFK> lucid broke my jaunty wifi - I have Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
[19:53] <blackxored> bolster, there are incoming connection used for something in skype
[19:53] <nullp0inter> for some reason source ~/.bash_profile doesnt carry over to new tabs that i open up, and i have to re run that command each time. how can i fix this?
[19:53] <blackxored> I've mapped the port I select
[19:53] <pehden> damn
[19:53] <blackxored> bolster, still I can connect but I cannot find users
[19:54] <blackxored> nullp0inter, .bashrc is sourced and /etc/profile not .bash_profile i believe by default
[19:54] <the_file> are there keyloggers for ubuntu?.
[19:54] <nullp0inter> blackxored: is it safe to put my definitions in .bashrc?
[19:54] <the_file> or is the kernel too secured for that
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, yes it's safe, but you can also source it to another file under your home to categorize settings
[19:55] <blackxored> something like if [ -f ~/.bash_<something>; then . ~/.bash_<something>; fi
[19:55] <Slart> the_file: there are keyloggers, so no
[19:55] <nullp0inter> blackxored: that makes sense, so i can just use that inside .bashrc...thanks!
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, as a golden rule you're safe to touch things under $HOME, but stay away of /etc ;)
[19:55] <the_file> slart: but will they be able to log keys in ubuntu?.
[19:55] <blackxored> nullp0inter, np
[19:56] <blackxored> bolster, my skype problem?
[19:56] <the_file> k
[19:56] <the_file> get it
[19:56] <Balgan> RunnerGeek, yep mate all i need is some hardware specs!
[19:56] <bolster> blackxored on thinking about it skype should fetch your userlist ofver an http link actually, what version are you on?
[19:56] <lun4tic> is there a screenlet for gnome where i can just embed html code?
[19:56] <nullp0inter> blackxored: i got bash: [: missing `]' after adding that
[19:57] <lun4tic> like web widgets and stuff
[19:57] <blackxored> Skype (beta) version <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:57] <blackxored> nullp0inter, it was an example
[19:57] <krabador> hi people, emesene users can look when an invisible user log out or log in as invisible
[19:57] <bolster> blackxored nullp0inter ] before the first semi colon, <something> ];
[19:58] <qwerty987> thanks Pici
[19:58] <nullp0inter> yep got it now
[19:58] <nullp0inter> thanks bolster
[19:58] <Tetraz> has anyone tried to buy music through rythmbox?
[19:58] <bolster> blackxored I'm on the same skype version, so it must be something with your login details :S
[19:58] <StaRetji> I really need advanced help here folks http://paste.ubuntu.com/446789/ Thx ;)
[19:59] <darkkilla> hi everyone
[19:59] <blackxored> nullp0inter, Ex: http://pastebin.com/5LUfV6wa
[19:59] <blackxored> bolster, like?
[19:59] <blackxored> bolster, try to find me on this same nick, plz
[19:59] <Wolfmanz51> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'cdemu' in stateoverride file E: Sub-process /user/bin/dpkg returned error code 2 a package failed to install. trying to recover
[19:59] <aaandaiii> i got sound to work in skype
[19:59] <nullp0inter> blackxored: my new terminal windows are now completely blank
[19:59] <aaandaiii> pulseaudio
[19:59] <aaandaiii> but the cpu is 100 and everything freezes
[19:59] <nullp0inter> my username isnt even there anymore
[19:59] <aaandaiii> i mean just the sound gets stuttery then stops
[20:00] <aaandaiii> [ need help relatively quickly ]
[20:00] <blackxored> nullp0inter, append to .bashrc not replace it
[20:00] <nullp0inter> thats what i did
[20:00] <nullp0inter> should i have not done source ~/.bashrc?
[20:01] <blackxored> nullp0inter, no you source your file *from* .bashrc
[20:01] <blackxored> full example: http://pastebin.com/dxj8jyz6
[20:01] <blackxored> bolster, then???
[20:01] <bolster> blackxored added,
[20:01] <blackxored> bolster, i even see stats 22,211,840 people online
[20:01] <blackxored> now it disconnected
[20:02] <Igorov> hi
[20:02] <blackxored> connected back still don't see anything
[20:02] <pehden> found a posible bug
[20:02] <bolster> blackxored I take it you've already exited and started it up again?
[20:02] <Igorov> how I can upgrade my ubuntu to 10.04
[20:02] <Igorov> from 9.04
[20:02] <blackxored> i installed yesterday, so i assume yes
[20:02] <Igorov> directly?
[20:02] <blackxored> Igorov, update-manager -d
[20:02] <Igorov> but
[20:02] <Igorov> this is to 9.10
[20:02] <Xetrov`> on a default server 10.04 install, it seems universe repos is already enabled?
[20:02] <blackxored> bolster, i still don't see you
[20:02] <solow> I have my taskbar back :p
[20:02] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: A "peristent" install is an odd beast. It't only persistent for things that are read after the kernel and initrd have been loaded. So if you do something that requires the initrd to be updated, which persistence alone won't allow, you'll get problems since the old initrd will be used
[20:02] <Daekdroom> Igorov, you can't do it directly.
[20:03] <darkkilla> I've some annoying bug in /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay ... everytime a bash gets started I get an annoying syntax error stating "unknown word `kn' in line 12"... the file has this on line 12: "case $prev kn" (without the quotes)... can someone show me the content of their file (I'm using 10.04 x86_64) or will it be sufficent if I only change it to "case $prev in kn"?
[20:03] <bolster> blackxored have you started it up before or is this the first execution? sometimes skype is a bit shitty about dealinging with no-info under $home
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, what's wrong with this skype, do I have to pay to make test messages?
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, yes I've
[20:03] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: I recommend just doing a regular install to the flash drive instead.
[20:03] <Igorov> Daekdroom: but if I have the 9.10 repository
[20:03] <blackxored> bolster, you said you added me but i dont' see you here, i'll re-login
[20:04] <bolster> blackxored you should still be clear for skype-to-skype calls and messages, so that should be a problem
[20:04] <Daekdroom> Igorov, then you're going to break your system
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: thx mate, unfortunately, it is not an option
[20:04] <blackxored> bolster, clear?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Why not?
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: most probably, I'l have to reinstall
[20:04] <Igorov> Daekdroom: ok
[20:04] <bolster> blackxored free :)
[20:04] <Igorov> Daekdroom: thanks
[20:04] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: beacuse USB stick can't last longer that 2-3 month if it is not live with persistant
[20:04] <blackxored> bolster, oh I see, still won't see your contact, try a chat
[20:05] <chmac> Where can I put a .desktop file to have it appear in the main menu?
[20:05] <justin_> question : if i upgrade through the update installer to 10.04 LTS from 9.1 will it wipe my hard drive?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: To get your 'persistent' install working again just delete all of the system files from the casper-rw partition.
[20:05] <Xetrov`> anyone know why im getting "Couldnt find package build-essential" even though the universe repository seems to be enabled?
[20:06] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: you mean, if I delete all files from casper-rw it will boot like first time, no changes?
[20:06] <Slart> Xetrov`: new install? have you run apt-get update?
[20:06] <tonyyarusso> Xetrov`: build-essential is in main actually.
[20:06] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Yes.
[20:06] <tahnok> does anyone know if linux has nvidia optimus support?
[20:06] <LedHed> I'm trying to remove the suspend and hibernation buttons in Lucid,  but the 'can_hibernate' and 'can_suspend' keys are missing from the gconf-editor.  Anyone know of another way to disable them?
[20:06] <Xetrov`> Slart: new install, i have run apt-get update
[20:06] <pehden> bug where every time i unplug the AC adatpter from my laptop the thing says battery low at %100 charge now
[20:06] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: Thank you very much man, really appreciated it :)
[20:07] <bolster> blackxored Check the Proxy setting in Advanced in the options, make sure its automatic proxy detection, and maybe change the port
[20:07] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know how to find which package provides a particular perl module?  'apt-cache search' sometimes succeeds, but not always.
[20:07] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: You're welcome.
[20:07] <bolster> blackxored to anything
[20:07] <Slart> Xetrov`: what does "apt-cache search essential" return?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> StaRetji: Just remember that you can't do any upgrades / changes that require a new kernel or initrd
[20:07] <Xetrov`> whoa, tons
[20:07] <tonyyarusso> (In particular Net::SMTP, Net::SMTP::TLS, and IO::Socket::INET)
[20:08] <Slart> Xetrov`: and you're not using capital letters anywhere..  sudo apt-get install Build-Essential  wont work, as far as I know
[20:08] <Xetrov`> ok i greped build, comes back with build-essential
[20:08] <Xetrov`> used all lower
[20:09] <StaRetji> Jordan_U: I understand, though I've changed intridr.img few times, when I was changing splash image, but that was done manually. Here I don't know how to clear apt to become available again
[20:09] <Slart> Xetrov`: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search build-essential; sudo apt-get install build-essential" ?
[20:09] <Xetrov`> ok i think i got it
[20:09] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: apt-file search is probably usefull for that
[20:09] <Guest50030> hello folks, i can test posts for msn usage thru amsn, is there i way i can do this with another app (maybe command mode) ?
[20:09] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: What's the naming syntax I'm looking for?
[20:09] <Xetrov`> apt-get install drbd8-utils drbd8-module-source \
[20:10] <Xetrov`> had a space after the \ and before build-essential
[20:10] <Xetrov`> whats the \ do?
[20:10] <Slart> Xetrov`: lets you do a new line without it affecting the command
[20:11] <Xetrov`> ok so really it wasnt needed
[20:11] <Xetrov`> i could have just skipped it
[20:11] <Slart> Xetrov`: nope
[20:11] <Xetrov`> ok thanks
[20:11] <Slart> Xetrov`: yes
[20:12] <darkkilla> okay, changing it to "case $prev in kn" does not help... so could someone check for differences of their /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay file with this? http://pastebin.com/fsnpPEaR
[20:12] <folkert> Hello, I'm trying to install flashplayer 10.1 on 64bit ubuntu. However, I have installed nspluginwrapper and copied the flashplayer to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, but it still doesnt work.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: I don't know off hand, sorry.
[20:13] <mat619> hi there! I need some help with my Thinkpad T41 - since I installed 10.04 (or it upgraded to the latest kernel, I'm unsure which was the cause since I installed only a few days ago) I can't execute "modprobe -r ehci_hcd" anymore because the module doesn't exist. I have to do that in order to get USB storage devices to work because my Thinkpad's USB ports are somewhat broken and work only with USB 1.1. Any ideas what to do? It drives me nuts!
[20:14] <converge> im looking for dos2unix program, it's not in tofrodos anymore, and i cant find it on packages.ubuntu.com , some idea where can i find it ?
[20:15] <mxweas> I'm trying to download a file to my gui-less server. However, the file is stuck behind a login session. Can I login with lynx/links, export the cookie for the session and use it with wget/curl?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> converge: Just use "fromdos" instead
[20:16] <edbian> I'm on ubuntu 8.04 and I want to upgrade straight to 10.04.  Is that possible?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> edbian: Yes
[20:16] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | edbian
[20:16] <tonyyarusso> converge: I use the 'flip' package myself.
[20:17] <converge> tonyyarusso, flip ? there is a dos2unix there/
[20:17] <converge> ?
[20:17] <darkkilla> converge: on my machine it's still in the package "tofrodos"
[20:17] <tonyyarusso> converge: it does the same thing.
[20:17] <converge> im running a binary program, and it needs the dos2unix ..
[20:18] <jo-erlend> Where can I get the name and address of the person who thought it was smart to make altgr+space nbsp? :)
[20:18] <jo-erlend> no, seriously; how can I make altgr+space _not_ insert nbsp?
[20:18] <drizzt_> jo-erlend, what's wrong with it?
[20:18] <Guest50030> hello folks, i can test posts for msn usage thru amsn, is there i way i can do this with another app (maybe command mode) ?
[20:18] <drizzt_> jo-erlend, it's in keyboard properties somewhere
[20:19] <edbian> I can send sms messages through skype.  Is there software in the repos that does this too?
[20:19] <sandking> what's realtime kernel?
[20:19] <lighta> Hi, how can I do my script.sh start on lunch system (not session) and I didn't found any /etc/rc.d/ folder
[20:20] <jo-erlend> drizzt_, well... I write some programs in Python, and Python cares about the difference between a space and an nbsp.
[20:20] <skulski> I had installed a custom kernel image for my computer to get around a show stopper, but then when i updated ubuntu reset my grub configuration to normal. how do i 1) get my other kernel as an option 2) stop that from happening in the future
[20:20] <drizzt_> sandking, it is a kernel which imitate RTOS
[20:20] <nullp0inter> where can i find my .bashrc?
[20:20] <sandking> drizzt_: thx for reply
[20:21] <converge> workarounds..
[20:21] <yariv> edbian: The next version of skype for Linux will enable that feature.
[20:21] <rfzero> nullp0inter, isn't it in your home folder?
[20:21] <rrodrigo> humm
[20:21] <imthenachoman> whats that site i can go to search for apt-get packages?
[20:21] <rfzero> nullp0inter, it's a hidden file, so if you're using nautilus press ctrl+h to show hidden files
[20:21] <chmac> Anyone know where the Ubuntu / Gnome main menu is on disk?
[20:21] <rrodrigo> speaking portugues?
[20:21] <Pici> tonyyarusso: I think some of what you are looking for is installed in the perl-modules package in lucid, the rest is in cpan, you may be able to use those package listings along with apt-file to see if such a package is availabe in our repos.
[20:21] <edbian> yariv, What feature?  It being in the repos?  I doubt it.    They are not constructive nor appreciated.  If you have a valid bug with a package, please log it on http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[20:23] <rrodrigo> ata
[20:23] <yariv> edbian: Not at the moment but wait for skype 3.0 for Linux. The SMS feature will be available.
[20:23] <pehden> any one got the battery issue
[20:23] <Windpoison> Hey! Finally got IRC working on my ubuntu 9.04 laptop
[20:23] <edbian> yariv, I don't think you're aware that you can already SMS with skype on linux.  Just grab the skype dynamic package from the site.  You don't eve have to compile it.
[20:23] <blackxored> bolster, still won't see you, no proxy selected, mapping rule, all outbound allowed, inbound for skype port also allowed
[20:24] <bsmith093> is there a way to tweak the dependencies of a package from the repos
[20:24] <wng-> Guys, i followed the instructions in the Ubuntu server guide in 10.04 to enable IP Masquerading, now I can't ssh into my machine? how can i enable this?
[20:24] <edbian> bsmith093, No
[20:24] <ubutom> drizzt_, I run it atm and it's fine :P
[20:24] <drizzt_> lol, so that bug will lie there as NEW for a couple years
[20:24] <bsmith093> that was fast are you sure
[20:25] <edbian> bsmith093, Absolutely positive.  Unless you re-write the software to not use the packages it needs it's impossible.
[20:25] <bsmith093> well can i force 2 packages to install that would normally remove each other
[20:25] <bolster> blackxored still cant see anyone either?
[20:25] <blackxored> bolster, no
[20:25] <drizzt_> anyway how to control antialiasing in LXDE? gnome-appearance-properties doesn't work for some reason
[20:25] <bsmith093> for example gnome-games and same gnome
[20:25] <darkkilla> just fixed my bash_completion bug... looks like someone made a typo... instead of "case $prev in" the person responsible typed "case $prev kn" ;)
[20:25] <blackxored> I saw somrthing now
[20:25] <darkkilla> bye
[20:26] <blackxored> on search but still nothing on contact list
[20:26] <blackxored> after a few seconds the results vanishes
[20:26] <Windpoison> I have a problem with Opera. Everytime i run it it doesnt work. when i run it in terminal it says "nathan@nathan-laptop:~$ opera      /home/nathan//lib/opera/10.10/opera: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[20:26] <edbian> bsmith093, Well what package do you want to tweak (and what dependencies) ?
[20:26] <bolster> blackxored end of my expertise bro; you've checked your network, and you've got the right version, and its logging in correctly, so I have no idea dude.
[20:27] <blackxored> bolster, that only happens if I search from the main window typing the name
[20:27] <drizzt_> Windpoison, is it bash you're using?
[20:27] <bsmith093> the same-gnome package was removed from the repos, i found it in the januty repos, but it wont insytall without removing gnome-games on lucid is there  a way around this
[20:27] <KaiForce> i want to create a script that will mount an external drive, then share it with SMB.  Possible?  I know how to mount the drive, I just need to know if I can create an SMB share from the command line
[20:28] <Windpoison> drizzt, I am pretty sure, anyway to make sure, I am a linux newbie.
[20:28] <edbian> bsmith093, Are you mixing repos and versions?  What version are you running?
[20:28] <bsmith093> lucid
[20:28] <pehden> Windpoison does your critical battery alert come one when you disconnect from the ac charger on your laptop
[20:28] <edbian> bsmith093, with what repos?
[20:28] <bsmith093> the lucid repos
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, don't do that.  ah ha
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, Basically you run into the problem you're facing now.
[20:29] <Windpoison> pehden, I do not have a battery for my laptop
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, oh wait.  Read that wrong.
[20:29] <edbian> bsmith093, Sorry if I confused you there.  Thought you were running lucid with jaunty repos or something (which is just insane)
[20:30] <lucenut> I am on a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 PC with Ubuntu running in Virtualbox. How can I connect to the windows file system from ubuntu?
[20:30] <bsmith093> anyway is there a way to make swell foop speed WAY up
[20:30] <edbian> bsmith093, What's wrong with the gnome-games on 10.04 ?
[20:30] <bolster> blackxored did you try to call  the test-caller?
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Hi
[20:30] <bolster> blackxored even if it appears offline?
[20:30] <drizzt_> lucenut, install filezilla in WIndows and use FTP
[20:30] <bsmith093> i like swell foop, but its insanely slow
[20:30] <lucenut> I tried creating a "Shared Folder" in the virtualbox settings.
[20:30] <edbian> bsmith093, What is swell floop?  A game?
[20:30] <Balgan> lucenut, activate samba shares and put the VM in the same network as the host
[20:30] <bsmith093> yes basic block removing game
[20:31] <lucenut> Pointed it to C:\ with full access.
[20:31] <sebsebseb> lucenut: try #vbox
[20:31] <bsmith093> it was caled same-gnome in jaunty, the version in lucid is really slow
[20:31] <drizzt_> Ubuntu doesn't work with Vista+ network, if you don't know that already
[20:31] <sebsebseb> lucenut: plus can get a good manual from them the website
[20:31] <Slart> lucenut: I think you can share folders using the virtualbox software.. then those folders end up somewhere in the network structure.. at least that's the way it works for windows guest on linux host