[02:15] <jorik> so last boot: direct rendering and sound were both OK, but when i tried running fgl_glxgears for i think about 3 seconds, X crashed again. i did a reboot without cutting full power and when X started it crashed immediatly showing the frozen glxgears from last boot a second or two and then shutting down my monitor
[02:15] <dennis_p> godzero: do you mean the host (kubuntu ssh server) is running now?
[02:16] <jorik> i cut power completely and restarted ubuntu and now X runs fine. it seems like whenever i simply press the reset button mt graphics card freaks out.
[02:21] <jorik> ugh, and then it froze *again*, this time without even touching fgl_glxgears
[02:21] <jorik> but curiously: even tho everything froze, i was still able to move my mouse around (tho nothing responded to it). my KB was dead too
[02:22] <rebegin> hey all!
[02:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halo? a user that uses konqueror and mplayerplugin can give me a sec?
[02:23] <rebegin> any wifi-master here?
[02:23] <DerKlops> hi
[02:23] <rebegin> i've got a small question
[02:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> who don't :)
[02:24] <rebegin> hehe
[02:25] <DerKlops> where i can put a script, that will be always execute at start?
[02:26] <rebegin> so here it is: wifi works with ndiswrapper, but after boot i have to always enter sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID and sudo ifdown wlan0 and sudo ifup wlan0 to get it work...any ideas how to autmotize it at boottime?
[02:27] <j0rik> mkay now it crashed trying to open kate. im using the 2.6.12-10 kernel now as it seems the crashes only happen when i use the 2/6/15-23 kernel (when i boot the 12-10 kernel it doesnt use 3d acceleration i think)
[02:28] <rebegin> DerKlops: i think to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file
[02:28] <DerKlops> thx
[02:28] <rebegin> not sure though
[02:28] <rebegin> give it a try
[02:32] <DerKlops> bye all
[02:42] <synmoo> Anyone help me with a power management issue in dapper? The LCD on my laptop will not turn off. The screen blanks after the power off timer expires, but the backlight does not turn off.
[02:43] <synmoo> It's a dell Insp 8500
[02:43] <Al-Daja> web browser
[02:45] <synmoo> Al-Daja: As in, the browser is keeping the display from completely powering down? I'll do a fresh boot without opening anything and see if that does it.
[02:45] <Al-Daja> thx
[02:47] <synmoo> Al-Daja: If that is the problem, can you recommend a solution so that I don't have to close my browser all the time?
[02:50] <Al-Daja> yep system monitor and i shutdown what is powerdown
[02:50] <fred___> dfsdf
[02:50] <Al-Daja> but anyways i'm completely noob
[02:50] <Al-Daja> so don't ask me
[02:50] <Al-Daja> O:O
[02:55] <joffrey> bonjour atous
[02:56] <bdmp> !french
[02:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:56] <joffrey> :)
[02:56] <joffrey> merci bye
[02:59] <gil> i need help with klaptop
[02:59] <StR> gil: what is klaptop?
[02:59] <gil> laptop power management
[02:59] <gil> i cant place computer in standby/suspend
[03:00] <Hobbsee> gil: try kpowersave
[03:00] <gil> same results
[03:00] <noaXess_kubuntu> if i have installed kubuntu dapper drake 6.06 flight 6 and always installed the latest updates.. will my system automaticly updated to the latest kubuntu dapper drake 6.06 LTS ??
[03:00] <Hobbsee> noaXess_kubuntu: yes
[03:01] <Hobbsee> it already is :)
[03:01] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi Hobbsee.. okey :) cool
[03:01] <gil> my screen completely blanks on  resume,,,,,
[03:01] <gil> there has to be a way to get this to work
[03:01] <Hobbsee> noaXess_kubuntu: do you understand what the concept of snapshot releases are?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> gil: like...completely?  or does it come back after a while
[03:02] <noaXess_kubuntu> ony my asus w1v notebook. i have allways the problem with the graficdriver.. i need to use fglx instead of ati driver.. if i now make a fresh install i need to go to console and chanche grafic driver.. then X works
[03:02] <noaXess_kubuntu> is it possible to preconfigure this?
[03:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> Hobbsee: snapshot releases.. i think.. update and have it :)
[03:03] <gil> kpowersave places computer in suspend mode but when it comes out of suspend the screen blanks/blinks a couple of times then it locks up
[03:03] <Hobbsee> noaXess_kubuntu: yeah
[03:06] <gil> so...any ideas about suspend mode on my laptop...i have tinkered with acpi-support in many ways, still, no smoke
[03:07] <Hobbsee> gil: drat.  what model laptop?
[03:07] <gil> Toshiba M40
[03:07] <Hobbsee> !hardware
[03:07] <ubotu> hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:08] <Hobbsee> gil: is it listed in...no..wait..not there....the laptop testing page...
[03:08] <Hobbsee> they sometimes have solutions on what to do to get the card running
[03:08] <Hobbsee> gil: is this dapper?
[03:08] <gil> yep....just upgraded....
[03:09] <gil> the funny thing is that it used to work  a long time ago and then it just stopeed
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> LaptopTestingTeam
[03:09] <gil> locks up my drivce
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> gil, file a bug, noting a recesion (pity you didnt do it at the time)
[03:09] <slow-motion> re
[03:10] <gil> does anyone here have a toshiba laptop that suspends/resumes no problem
[03:13] <mtR`> hi
[03:13] <jaro> Hi guys
[03:13] <Hobbsee> gil: toshiba a10 satellite.  it sorta works.
[03:13] <jaro> I have a problem with CVS
[03:14] <jaro> whenever I want to login via emtpy password... nothing happens
[03:14] <mtR`> how can I install Irssi 0.8.9?
[03:14] <gil> Hobbsee: did you have to alter any config files
[03:14] <mtR`> what I have to type in console?
[03:14] <Hawkwind> mtR`: sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:14] <Hobbsee> no
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: it's installed by default
[03:15] <v3ctor> dapper has version 0.8.10
[03:15] <Hobbsee> oh
[03:15] <mtR`> hm, so where it is?
[03:15] <v3ctor> type `irssi --version`
[03:16] <mtR`> in root console?
[03:16] <v3ctor> no...never run irc as root
[03:16] <v3ctor> run in normal console
[03:16] <Chris_H> hey guys, im a bit of a linux n00b and im trying to download Audacity
[03:16] <mtR`> ok
[03:16] <AL89> i installed dapper yesterday... is "knewsticker" still available? i can't really find it in its "old place"...
[03:16] <Chris_H> im not sure which version. i downloaded the latest Kubuntu distro
[03:16] <Chris_H> is that dapper?
[03:16] <v3ctor> irssi -c <irc serv er> -n <nick>
[03:16] <AL89> yeas, Chris_H
[03:16] <Chris_H> 6.0.6 i think it is
[03:16] <Chris_H> thanks AL
[03:16] <mtR`> ok, 0.8.10
[03:17] <mtR`> but, where I can find it. :P
[03:17] <mtR`> mhm
[03:17] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Ah, didn't know it was installed by default.  I'm still new to all this Ubuntu stuff yet :)
[03:17] <Hawkwind> mtR`: As normal user type: irssi  or irs(hit the tab key)
[03:17] <v3ctor> mtR`: which irssi
[03:18] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: it is :)  Which means that you can technically use it, while your system finishes configuring, which is nice :D
[03:18] <Chris_H> i got the .deb file
[03:18] <Chris_H> how do i put it on there
[03:18] <Chris_H> ?
[03:18] <mtR`> ok, it works I think
[03:18] <Chris_H> sorry if im too n00bish!
[03:19] <v3ctor> sudo apt-get install audacity
[03:19] <klimek> ok, it works xD
[03:19] <klimek> thanks :)
[03:20] <AL89> Chris_H, query
[03:20] <Chris_H> yeah AL
[03:20] <Chris_H> i have the .deb file of Audacity, but im a bit of a linux newbie
[03:20] <Chris_H> how do i put it on there
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> I am new to KU but I seem to be having problems, installed and grub bootloader messed up boot to XP, HD install has errors assertion failed , adept keeps crashing, all on multiple installs on diferent computers
[03:21] <Chris_H> i have the latest Kubuntu AL89
[03:22] <v3ctor> sudo dpkg -i <adacity>.deb
[03:22] <Fillado> Chris_H all you should need to do is type "sudo apt-get install audacity"
[03:23] <Chris_H> thanks fillado
[03:23] <Chris_H> appreciate the newbie help! :D
[03:23] <Chris_H> Linux is a bit scary tbh
[03:23] <Fillado> lol
[03:24] <AL89> :P
[03:24] <Fillado> it used to be way more when you had to go around the internet looking for all sorts of dependencies
[03:24] <cfraz89> well its nearly  the end of 06/06/06
[03:25] <v3ctor> just starting here
[03:25] <klimek> does anyone know how to change screen resolution?
[03:25] <v3ctor> klimek: you can use system settings
[03:25] <jaro> Can someone help me resolve this thing with CVS ???
[03:25] <Fillado> should just be in system settings klimek
[03:26] <klimek> hm, they are not resolution settings :P
[03:26] <v3ctor> system setting > display
[03:26] <klimek> or don't see it
[03:27] <klimek> ok ok, i have ;)
[03:36] <noaXess_kubuntu> is there a repo for freeswan? ipsec package..
[03:38] <v3ctor> is it much different than openswan?
[03:39] <havoc> openvpn
[03:53] <heyall> hi guyz
[03:53] <heyall> i was wandering how lond does it take to ship the cd's?
[03:54] <heyall> :)
[03:54] <heyall> :)
[03:54] <heyall> : )
[03:54] <heyall> people?
[03:56] <Hawkwind> heyall: The site says about 6 weeks when you order them
[03:56] <ubuntu_> hi all. may I ask a question_
[03:56] <Hawkwind> ubuntu_: You just did :P
[03:57] <heyall> they are shiped from nerthalands ?
[03:57] <heyall> the cd's i mean!
[03:57] <luh> heyall, no clue - why not just download it?
[03:57] <heyall> i have no  burner :(
[03:58] <heyall> my other pc is gone
[03:58] <Hawkwind> heyall: I'm sure they are shipped from headquarters
[03:58] <heyall> for a while
[03:58] <luh> Ubugtu, what is your question?
[03:58] <Hawkwind> heyall: You don't have friends ?
[03:58] <luh> download it on another machine
[03:58] <Hawkwind> heyall: Or a local lug
[03:58] <heyall> ya
[03:58] <heyall> :(
[03:58] <ubuntu_> ^^ I'm planning on installing kubuntu on my pc, on a secondary hard disk. I have windows on a raid0 over two sata drives and I'm not sure if the kubuntu or boot manager could break the windows partition
[03:58] <heyall> can i format the disk and install inux?
[03:59] <luh> no local lug? no friends?
[03:59] <heyall> have friends
[03:59] <heyall> but do u know how long it takes
[03:59] <luh> Uberriffic, well - if you don't break the windows partition why should kubuntu?
[03:59] <luh> well ask them to download it for you
[03:59] <heyall> i have a high speed internet i downloaded it in 1 hour
[03:59] <luh> yes - i have a very slow dsl connection
[03:59] <luh> just upgrading on dapper - it'll probably last another 10 hours
[04:00] <heyall> wtf
[04:00] <haakonn> running the latest kubuntu (fresh install, fresh user) i have a problem: kweather is not configured, and when i right-click and choose "Configure KWeather", i get a window saying "Empty Page" and there's nothing there
[04:00] <heyall> 10 hours
[04:00] <heyall> are u crazy?
[04:00] <heyall> do u have dilaup?
[04:00] <luh> take your harddisc to a friends and burn it there
[04:00] <ubuntu_> well, I'll just try it. wish me luck ^^
[04:00] <luh> i did that a lot when i had no burner
[04:00] <luh> heyall, well i wanted kubuntu - so i did that
[04:00] <heyall> :(  my friends are not that good in computers ill ask my sis to buy a burner today
[04:01] <heyall> should i burn all files
[04:01] <heyall> on the disc
[04:01] <luh> nope - i have a connection where i get about 40 kBytes max speed
[04:01] <heyall> without editing anything
[04:01] <heyall> wtf i get 3mb in a very good day
[04:02] <heyall> and on bittcommet 200KB :) use bitcomet dude  :)
[04:02] <luh> well  I'm living in the country side
[04:02] <heyall> me in amsterdam
[04:02] <luh> i use wget
[04:02] <luh> because i can't have my computer running all day long
[04:02] <luh> wget is very nice
[04:02] <heyall> should i burn all the files on the pc!?
[04:03] <heyall> the cd*
[04:03] <luh> heyall, - why don't you just download the iso-file for the install disc, - and burn it - and than download the rest via internet
[04:03] <bal> sorry to ask, but how do i open a fuse-2.5.3.tar.gz??
[04:03] <luh> it'll do that without no problems, that's probably how everyone does it with a normal kind of internet connection
[04:03] <heyall> how big is the iso file?
[04:04] <heyall> i have an usb miniharddisk
[04:04] <luh> bal - tar xzvf fuse-2.5.3.tar.gz
[04:04] <luh> about a cd size
[04:04] <bal> i type that, in konsole?
[04:04] <heyall> am  waiting so hard for linux cant wait to use it
[04:04] <heyall> holyshit
[04:04] <haakonn> bal:  fuse is probably harder to set up than you want to deal with :)
[04:04] <heyall> i have like 8mb
[04:04] <luh> yes
[04:04] <heyall> 80*
[04:05] <heyall> 80mb
[04:05] <bal> hasskonn: is there an easier way, to view NTFS?
[04:05] <heyall> on the usb drive
[04:05] <haakonn> bal:  not sure
[04:05] <haakonn> though i don't know how fuse will help you view ntfs
[04:05] <imbrandon> bal: ntfs read is in the kernel
[04:06] <luh> bal - this just opens the compressed tarball - don't ask me how to deal with it - ok?
[04:06] <bal> imbrandon: does that mean its built in?
[04:06] <imbrandon> bal: just type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hddX /mount/point"
[04:06] <heyall> i am working on a fully C++  MMORPG
[04:06] <heyall> :)
[04:06] <heyall> :(
[04:06] <heyall> brb
[04:07] <Terminus> imbrandon, bal: that doesn't set perms for regular users. "sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdX /mnt/point" might be a better idea. :)
[04:07] <imbrandon> heyall: please watch your lang in here
[04:08] <heyall> kk   what a late reaction man!!
[04:08] <heyall> sorry
[04:08] <bal> ok thanks
[04:08] <bal> ill try it
[04:08] <Shaezsche> ubuntu recognizes a hardware knob on my laptop to adjust volume, but kubuntu does not. Why is that? shouldnt hardware recognition be the same for both versions? any idea how i can fix this?
[04:09] <bal> terminus: mount: mount point /mnt/point does not exist
[04:09] <bal> is what it replied
[04:10] <Terminus> bal: you're supposed to replace /dev/hdX and /mnt/point with the appropriate parameters. :)
[04:10] <imbrandon> bal:  that statement was intended to be replaced by where you want it mounted
[04:10] <bal> oh...
[04:11] <bal> that seems too complicated for me
[04:11] <imbrandon> what /dev is your ntfs partition on ?
[04:11] <bal> G:/   ?maybe
[04:11] <imbrandon> hehe no
[04:11] <imbrandon> ok ........
[04:11] <bal> lol, ill look hold on
[04:11] <Terminus> imbrandon: i don't think he knows about partitions and stuff. :)
[04:11] <Terminus> bal: what does "sudo fdisk -l|grep NTFS" return?
[04:11] <imbrandon> Terminus: yea just relized that
[04:12] <bal> /dev/hdb1               1       10010    80405293+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:12] <bal> /dev/sda1   *           1       23878   191800003+  17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[04:13] <luh> imbrandon, just missing "I'm using linux 6.06 - can someone help me" *scnr*
[04:13] <imbrandon> luh: i dont understand what your asking?
[04:13] <bal> basicly one partition of mine (ntfs) has become inactive, and windows can't read it, so i thought id try reading through linux. but im new to linux
[04:13] <Hobbsee> luh: no, they dont even say the 6.06 part - they just say linux, or kubuntu
[04:14] <Terminus> bal: you probably want "sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1"
[04:14] <luh> imbrandon, - that was meant as joke - we get this in another channel quite often - linux 6.06 or linux 10.1
[04:14] <Terminus> bal: if the stuff you're looking for isn't in hdb1, try hda1.
[04:14] <imbrandon> ahh ;)
[04:14] <bal> ok
[04:14] <Terminus> bal: i meant sda1 instead of hda1. =D
[04:14] <luh> Hobbsee, there is a channel were linux 10.1 is very common - and it's a running gag for those who have been there for a longer time
[04:15] <Hobbsee> luh: yep.  suse?
[04:15] <bal> ok, i think it is on sda1
[04:15] <luca__> hello
[04:15] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems
[04:15] <Shaezsche> what file system do most people use for linux? ext3?
[04:15] <luca__> . /dev/null is not created with 0666 permissions
[04:16] <Hobbsee> Shaezsche: ext3 or reiserfs, i tihnk
[04:16] <luca__> so x does not start
[04:16] <luca__> any idea?
[04:16] <luca__> why isn't udev active by default?
[04:17] <luca__> i wonder how kubuntu handles usb replugging without udev
[04:17] <Shaezsche> reiserfs is the same as reiser4 right?
[04:17] <Terminus> Shaezsche: nope. :)
[04:17] <Shaezsche> what is the big differences?
[04:17] <bal> Terminus: is this what you meant? ''sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 && sudo mount -t ntfs -o unmask=0222/dev/sda1/mnt/sda1''
[04:18] <defrysk> shachaf, reiser 4 is the latest but not compatable with grub afaIk
[04:18] <defrysk> shachaf, so if you use reiser4 use lilo or make sure to use another fs for /boot
[04:18] <Terminus> bal: yes... it's umask, not unmask, and there should be spaces between umask /dev and /mnt.
[04:19] <bal> ok
[04:19] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")? ndazza: when i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, when i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me.
[04:20] <Shaezsche> will reisterFS give me a faster responding system than ext3? i.e. will it boot faster and be more responsive?
[04:20] <RadiantFire> Shaezsche: it won't boot faster
[04:20] <Hobbsee> Shaezsche: no, check out "how to make your system faster the way you can feel it" on ubuntuforums.org in teh howto section
[04:20] <defrysk> ext3 is not as good on big files
[04:20] <defrysk> but on average ext3 is a safe default I think
[04:21] <v3ctor> ext3 is safe general purpose
[04:21] <defrysk> yes
[04:21] <defrysk> and ultra stable
[04:21] <Healot> defrysk: you can configure ext3 fs to handle huge fuile
[04:21] <v3ctor> yes
[04:21] <defrysk> Healot, I did not know that
[04:21] <v3ctor> xfs is your best bet for huge files
[04:22] <RadiantFire> what is jfs good for?
[04:22] <defrysk> xfs has a rep of "dataloss"
[04:22] <defrysk> RadiantFire, jfs is good for nothing
[04:22] <RadiantFire> thats sad
[04:22] <v3ctor> lol
[04:22] <RadiantFire> las time I compiled a kernel i came across it and wondered why it was there
[04:22] <RadiantFire> I've never heard of anyone using it
[04:23] <Healot> well, when install. you can select the inode option to "news" "defaults" "largefile"
[04:23] <v3ctor> true..use xfs is you have stable environment on ups
[04:23] <defrysk> RadiantFire, I tried it and its slower tham melasses in january
[04:23] <RadiantFire> roflmao
[04:23] <Healot> or you can format using fdisk and supply the inode option
[04:23] <RadiantFire> thats fun
[04:23] <v3ctor> Healot: that just determines how many inodes get created
[04:23] <Healot> yeah
[04:23] <RadiantFire> inodes are fun :-)
[04:23] <v3ctor> yes
[04:24] <v3ctor> love inodes
[04:24] <RadiantFire> I've always wanted to find someone who ran out of inodes and had like 30GB left on his fs
[04:24] <Healot> the less inode means larger file can be created
[04:24] <defrysk> Healot, I'll remember that
[04:24] <v3ctor> no
[04:24] <bal> Terminus: does this mean, its allready accessable? ''mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/sda1': File exists''
[04:24] <RadiantFire> less inodes means fewer files can be created
[04:24] <v3ctor> less inodes means smaller inode talbe and fewer inodes
[04:25] <Healot> yes... fewer files in huge size...
[04:25] <Terminus> bal: that means the directory already exists. just mount it.
[04:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> HEY!? do you know a way to copy the firefox bookmarks into konqueror?
[04:26] <RadiantFire> i discovered a cool new feature in konqueror
[04:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> thxn
[04:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> RadiantFire: like?
[04:27] <Healot> Tallia1Kubuntu: Bookmark -> Edit Bookmark
[04:27] <RadiantFire> import mozilla booksmakrs from there
[04:27] <Healot> then File -> Import -> Firefox bookmark
[04:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh.... didn't see it :) tnx
[04:27] <RadiantFire> omg thats so cool!
[04:27] <bal> Terminus: i get ''mount: only root can do that'' (thanks for your help btw)
[04:27] <systest> Strangeness with KLaptop, performance profile changes bogomips but not CPU speed. Is this expected?
[04:27] <ukdave> hi linux people
[04:27] <RadiantFire> if you press control in konqueror it now gives you shortcut keys for all the links
[04:27] <Healot> wellm :Mozilla:
[04:28] <luca__> archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main udev 079-0ubuntu34 [239kB]
[04:28] <luca__> Scaricato 239kB i
[04:28] <luca__> sorry
[04:28] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems in ubuntu, with regard to /dev/null being not writeable. x does not start. how to fix this?
[04:28] <ukdave> does anyone one know how to get the go menu with recent history in konqueror, I'm using dapper
[04:28] <Terminus> bal: you missed the sudo. :)
[04:29] <Healot> systest: CPU speed id determined by the board... BOGOmips by apps
[04:30] <RadiantFire> ukdave I think you have to restore the default kde profiles
[04:30] <ukdave> my /dev/null is set to rwrwrw or 666 as it's today-ur the bleedin antichrist-lol
[04:30] <systest> Healot:  Undrstood, but find it odd that they don't change in the same way.
[04:30] <ukdave> how do u do that
[04:30] <systest> Healot: also believe that means that I'm not really seeing a speed increase when plugged in.
[04:30] <Healot> Bogomips is fake... CPU cycle is real...
[04:30] <systest> i.e. bogomips are just that, bogus
[04:31] <systest> cross typed
[04:31] <Healot> hence BOGO
[04:31] <Healot> linux kernel is the worst kernel on determining MIPS :)
[04:31] <systest> So, KLaptop is broken on my IBM T42.
[04:31] <Healot> imho
[04:31] <RapaElo> hello
[04:32] <Healot> AMD 64 2800+ --> 3K++ MIPS?
[04:32] <Healot> hello!
[04:32] <simp> hello i have a big problem... while in linux my PC just crashes or something, i can't do anything and the screen stucks... but the quality of the picture isn't same anymore...
[04:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> RadiantFire: what was so hot in konqueror?
[04:33] <Healot> WE've been conq
[04:33] <Healot> 'ed
[04:34] <bal> Terminus: i think ive made progress, so far ::
[04:34] <bal> bal@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs
[04:34] <bal> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (rw)
[04:34] <bal> /dev/sda1 on /windows type ntfs (rw)
[04:34] <RadiantFire> Tallia1Kubuntu: go to a website and then just hit ctrl
[04:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes?
[04:35] <RadiantFire> its freakin sweet
[04:35] <RadiantFire> thats it
[04:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what?
[04:35] <RadiantFire> it'll pop up a list of little panes next to the links
[04:35] <bal> im positive its the sda1, i need to access
[04:35] <RadiantFire> with numbers and letters
[04:35] <RadiantFire> and if you press the number you go to the link
[04:35] <RadiantFire> its awesome for me on this laptop, cuz I hate touchpads with a passion
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, yeah..
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have seen that few days ago
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> lazy people stuffs
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[04:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like i am
[04:36] <Terminus> bal: you shouldn't mess up the directory structures. filing 101. :)
[04:37] <RadiantFire> i'm not lazy, i just suck at controlling the mouse via the control pad
[04:37] <Terminus> bal: /mnt is the canonical mount point for misc filesystems and /media is the canonical mount point for removable filesystems.
[04:38] <Terminus> bal: err... they contain the mount points.
[04:38] <Healot> mousekey, RadiantFire?
[04:38] <Terminus> bal: the umask=0222 parameter is supposed to give you the ability to access the partitions with limited access.
[04:38] <ukdave> simp: u need to explain from the beginning as the pc boots up
[04:38] <makko> in amarok, how can i setup mouse wheel to modify the volume only one percent at a time rather than eight or four?
[04:38] <Terminus> bal: if in doubt, just umount them and start over.
[04:39] <bal> Terminus: im not sure how to do most of what you just said..sorry
[04:39] <Terminus> ubotu: tell bal about ntfs
[04:39] <bal> do they need to be mounted for me to access the data?
[04:40] <Terminus> bal: yes, they should be mounted AND they should have the proper permissions. the link ubotu gave you should help you. :)
[04:41] <simp> ok ukdave, well i boot up the system properly... log on, and then after a while the crash happens... i get a "scrappy" screen that has been frozen and have to do a hard reset
[04:42] <ukdave> simp: so it works ok and you get to the log on screen and then what happens
[04:44] <simp> no ukdave i can even log on
[04:44] <simp> anyway sorry have to go
[04:44] <simp> i'l be back in an hour or two
[04:45] <ukdave> if the u can log in and ur screen is just rubbish it sounds like linux cannot handle ur video card
[04:45] <henning> hi
[04:45] <linuxbambi> somebody has an idea why my amarok does not play any mp3s anymore
[04:46] <linuxbambi> i installed all the codecs and it worked fine, i restartet my pc and no it does not play and tracks
[04:46] <Terminus> linuxbambi: what package did you install? i only needed libxine-extracodecs and everything worked fine.
[04:47] <makko> in amarok, how can i setup mouse wheel to modify the volume only one percent at a time rather than eight or four?
[04:51] <linuxbambi> hey my adept has deinstalled too much programms including apept itself!
[04:51] <linuxbambi> is there a way to repair this?
[04:52] <imbrandon> linuxbambi: try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal
[04:52] <RadiantFire> roflmao?
[04:52] <imbrandon> ?
[04:52] <RadiantFire> adept can uninstalled itself?
[04:52] <RadiantFire> i feel like someone should build something into adept to prevent that
[04:52] <imbrandon> no idea
[04:53] <RadiantFire> make you use apt-get to remove it
[04:53] <linuxbambi> lol shit, i can't even get apt-get install kubuntu-desktop via console
[04:53] <imbrandon> ok watch the lang, but what error do you get ?
[04:53] <RadiantFire> linuxbambi: i feel like it may be time for you to attempt to use the Rescue broken system
[04:54] <linuxbambi> how to?
[04:54] <imbrandon> what error does it give you ?
[04:55] <linuxbambi> unable to lock the administration directory
[04:55] <imbrandon> did you use sudo ?
[04:57] <RadiantFire> imbrandon: On a somewhat random topic, I've noticed a bunch of people come in here with adept crashes and then get the error message about unable to get a lock, other process using it, I wonder if that should go in the FAQ somewhere or something
[04:57] <imbrandon> maybe
[04:57] <imbrandon> RadiantFire: brb, but yea sounds good , maybe look for a wiki related to that and add it
[04:58] <_chavo> If adept crashes it most likely leaves the dpkg subprocess running, and you can't use apt-get then
[04:58] <HymnToLife> RadiantFire> people don't read FAQs anyway
[04:58] <bal> Terminus: if you can still remember my situation, will this commad set my acess ''/dev/sda1   /media/windows   vfat   ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000'' ?
[04:58] <Samuli^> what's the use of it being in the FAQ. As I remember it says "Maybe some other program is trying to use it" Or similar after the error.
[04:59] <Terminus> bal: nope. /dev/sda1  /media/windows  ntfs  defaults,umask=0222  0  0
[04:59] <Samuli^> "You can only have one package manager running" etc. It's pretty obvious anyways.
[04:59] <_chavo> Samuli^, we can explain how to terminate the process
[05:00] <RadiantFire> Samuli^: no, there is no other program using it, the lock is just not removed since there are unconfigured packages
[05:00] <RadiantFire> its like the "wrong" error message
[05:00] <RadiantFire> you can even manually delete the locks
[05:00] <RadiantFire> and it won't work
[05:00] <bal> Terminus: that was ':permission denied'
[05:00] <Samuli^> RadiantFire, I see your point, but I wasn't talking about your problem in particular.
[05:04] <Terminus> bal: what do you mean permission denied? during mount? or are you editing fstab without root perms?
[05:05] <bal> bal@ubuntu:~$ sudo /dev/sda1  /media/windows  ntfs  defaults,umask=0222  0  0
[05:05] <bal> sudo: /dev/sda1: command not found
[05:05] <Davidosky> Hi all
[05:06] <bal> Terminus: i just put the line you gave me, into konsole, and i got this
[05:06] <bal> bal@ubuntu:~$ /dev/sda1  /media/windows  ntfs  defaults,umask=0222  0  0
[05:06] <bal> bash: /dev/sda1: Permission denied
[05:06] <HymnToLife> bal> this is not a command
[05:06] <HymnToLife> you have to ad this line at the end of /etc/fstab
[05:08] <Davidosky> Who know how can i configure a wireless lan with Kubuntu Dapper? (network card: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG)
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> oooo
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> I go tthat working
[05:09] <Davidosky> @_@
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> get knetworkmanager, iwconfig, and uh...what else
[05:10] <bal> well ive got the drive mounted, for sure. but i get confused doing the permissions, i was trying to follow that webpage.
[05:10] <thompa> did anyone have issues with the kde 3.5.3 upgrade?
[05:10] <DeadS0ul> you'll need to download ipw2100/ipw2200 firmware too,
[05:10] <RadiantFire> so, when I install knetworkmanager it never goes past configuring interface
[05:10] <RadiantFire> does anyone know what I have to do?
[05:11] <thompa> my "get new wallpapers" has gotten slow on the get. takes forever
[05:11] <Terminus> bal: err... that line is meant to be in /etc/fstab. it's not supposed to be a command that you're gonna run. i formatted it that way because the previous line you gave me sort of looked like it belonged in an fstab.
[05:11] <Davidosky> mmm.... ok let's try with this program! :D
[05:12] <thompa> I thought the ipw2200 firmware is there, or the driver is?
[05:12] <bal> Terminus: so im meant to put in on ''gksudo gedit /etc/fstab'' that??
[05:12] <thompa> i got ipw2200 runs no problem
[05:13] <DeadS0ul> didja get wpa working? I havent' tried that yet
[05:13] <Terminus> bal: yes. or "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" if you're running kubuntu.
[05:14] <Davidosky> thompa: where i can download ipw2200 firmware?
[05:14] <DeadS0ul> google it
[05:14] <DeadS0ul> there's a sourceforge link for it
[05:14] <thompa> Davidosky: its on intels web site or sourceforge
[05:14] <bal> Terminus: yes, i am on kubuntu. is this the whole comand then? kdesu kate /etc/fstab /dev/sda1  /media/windows  ntfs  defaults,umask=0222  0  0
[05:15] <DeadS0ul> if you're in kde just do alt+f2 gg:linux ipw2200
[05:15] <thompa> Davidosky: I did not need it, ipw2200 is included in the kernel already
[05:16] <thompa> Davidosky:http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[05:16] <Terminus> bal: no. you're supposed to edit /etc/fstab.
[05:16] <thompa> Davidosky: you shouldnt need it though, and it may make things worse
[05:17] <davide> i'm back :D
[05:18] <thompa> Davidosky: did you go to system settings: network settings?
[05:18] <brandon_> can somebody try this login: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@mplayerhq.hu:/cvsroot/ffmpeg login
[05:18] <brandon_> just hit enter when it asks for a password
[05:18] <chavo> connection refused
[05:19] <brandon_> thank you
[05:19] <davide> thompa, i have downloaded knetworkmanager from our repository
[05:20] <thompa> is that the same thing,?
[05:21] <thompa> why not first do it the right way in network settings, log on as admin
[05:21] <thompa> ipw2200 always works on our laptops in kubuntu
[05:23] <balld> That's why I switched from Suse, thompa...worked fine in 9.3 and 10.0 but had configuration problems with ipw2200 in 10.1,  showed everything, and all modules were loaded, but I couldn't get wpa working correctly...so now I'm a Kubuntu newbie :)
[05:24] <thompa> same here in suse internet is dead
[05:25] <davide_> i have configured a wireless lan with knetworkmanager... and it works fine!
[05:25] <balld> Yep, I have no problems now
[05:26] <thompa> sorry ive never used it, my laptop works fine without it
[05:26] <bal> Terminus: does this look like im on the right track? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/ali1/snapshot1.png
[05:26] <thompa> what does it do?
[05:27] <thompa> oh, i see it alows fast switching to networks
[05:27] <balld> Shows (and allows you to configure) all network connections...not too mention switch networks
[05:28] <Terminus> bal: yeah, that looks about right. just make sure that the /media/windows directory exists and everything should work.
[05:28] <bal> thing is, i think its just /windows, not /media/windows
[05:29] <Terminus> bal: well, you're the one who made the directory so you're the one who should know.
[05:29] <thompa> i used knetworkmanager in suse, just installed it here. looks familiar
[05:29] <thompa> it never worked in suse
[05:29] <davide_> mmm now i have another question... how can i configure a lan with this pc (Kubuntu) and another one with Kubuntu? (both of them are connect at the same roter)
[05:31] <davide_> (router)
[05:31] <balld> Yeah thompa, that's the problem I had...works flawlessly for me in Kubuntu
[05:31] <jpatrick> !fish
[05:31] <ubotu> I heard fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[05:31] <thompa> there must be a reason knetworkmanageris not installed by default though
[05:31] <jpatrick> thompa: there is, but my brains come to a halt
[05:31] <thompa> maybe knetworkmanager is not as secure
[05:32] <thompa> if it connects without asking maybe..
[05:33] <balld> I'm not sure as I've only connected on my home network(wired and wireless) but it asked me to open kwallet where my wpa key is stored...wired is Dhcp for my mac address here
[05:33] <pm> has anyone seen a good description of installing xgl on kubuntu?
[05:33] <jpatrick> !xgl
[05:33] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[05:33] <jpatrick> pm: ^ be happy
[05:34] <thompa> will xgl work in kubuntu? i had all sorts of problems in beta
[05:34] <dr_willis> it should.
[05:34] <dr_willis> but ive never had xgl work worth a poo on my system. :P
[05:34] <slow-motion> bbl
[05:35] <robin> try kororaa for xgl :)
[05:35] <davide_> who know how can i configure a lan beetwen this pc with Kubuntu (on wireless connection) and another pc with Kubuntu (on ethernet connection)? both of them are connected to the same router.
[05:35] <robin> just download it, works cool :D
[05:35] <thompa> it worked fine in ubuntu when i tried it, but in kde some things did not
[05:35] <robin> it's a live cd
[05:35] <chavo> thompa, I run xgl and kde
[05:35] <bal> Terminus: ive done everything, from that webpage, and i can't see any files in the partition
[05:35] <robin> only I'm stuck in the water dropping feature..
[05:35] <thompa> chavo: are you running nvidia?
[05:35] <balld> robin, I tried that, but the install scripts didn't work correctly for my system..
[05:35] <chavo> the desktop pager doesn't work but that's it
[05:35] <chavo> yes nvidia
[05:36] <thompa> chavo: is there a sure way to disable it in case
[05:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need a konqueror file/web user...
[05:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when i put a http:// shouldn't konqui switch to web-view?
[05:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it doesn't for me
[05:37] <chavo> thompa, yes, you just have to revert your kdmrc to load normal X
[05:37] <thompa> chavo: early on i had problems with celestia and some other apps
[05:37] <chavo> thompa, I haven't tried celestia
[05:37] <robin> balld:  I'm talking about the livecd, it just to test it. works ok for me
[05:38] <nysosym> please help me, i use Dapper Drake LTS with KDE 3.5.3 and Nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx + xorg.conf "nv" in "nvidia"), but the system will not logout/shutdown/restart, only a black screen and the system hangs. Can anyone help me please?
[05:38] <chavo> thompa, I have to start another xserver to play 3d games though. I usually log out of KDE to play games anyway
[05:39] <balld> robin: Right, but there's also a install command, and when I tried to install to hd, it just hangs. Unless I've got my distro's mixed up.... :)
[05:39] <thompa> chavo: bzflag?
[05:39] <chavo> never tried it
[05:39] <robin> balld: could be, haven't try it out.
[05:39] <bal> Thanks for your help, but im going to try a different approach
[05:39] <dr_willis> nysosym:  try getting to X from 'startx' (boot to the console, or kill the kdm service) and see if it starts/exits normally then. (as a test)
[05:40] <chavo> frozen bubble doesn't  work
[05:40] <thompa> i dont think i need xgl on here, maybe on the laptop
[05:41] <nysosym> dr_willis: okay i will try it thx, brb
[05:42] <dr_willis> Hmm...
[05:45] <kujeger> I seem to have some problems installing LGP's update/uninstall tool, as well as Majesty Gold. Keep getting   "lgp_update/setup.sh: line 53:  7392 Segmentation fault      "$setup" $*       The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1"
[05:45] <kujeger> any ideas?
[05:45] <davide_> who know how can i configure a lan beetwen this pc with Kubuntu (on wireless connection) and another pc with Kubuntu (on ethernet connection)? both of them are connected to the same router.
[05:46] <dr_willis> davide_:  i think ya need to draw a picture. :P
[05:47] <dr_willis> if they all got ips and can ping the router. they should be able to ping each other
[05:47] <dr_willis> (unless therss somthing odd on your network)
[05:47] <davide_> mmm but how can i share on this lan?
[05:48] <davide_> (share file i mean)
[05:48] <dr_willis> thats where 'samba' is used.
[05:48] <dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <davide_> samba it's hard to configure?
[05:48] <noaXess_kubuntu> whats the best, and fastest tool to create an ISO from a secured cdrom? with dd?
[05:48] <dr_willis> people get 'network' and 'shareing files' confused. lol.. You can have them networked with no file shareing. its just a service that runs on top of it.
[05:48] <dr_willis> !samba
[05:48] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:49] <noaXess_kubuntu> davide_: samba is easy :)
[05:49] <dr_willis> kde and gnome both have file shareing features.
[05:49] <dr_willis> samba is a very big and detailed system. that has a lot of neat features. Worth reading about
[05:49] <davide_> i have heard that there is a GUI for samba called Smb4k... is it true?
[05:49] <dr_willis> One thing thats often over looked is to give the linux users a 'samba' password. with 'sudo smbpassed -a username'
[05:49] <dr_willis> I use smb4k all the time
[05:50] <dr_willis> theres dozens of gui-samba-share browsers like smb4k
[05:50] <dr_willis> smb4k is "NOT" a gui for 'samba configuration'
[05:50] <moopere> smb4k is the only samba browser/mounter I've found that works properly under dapper tho
[05:51] <dr_willis> moopere:  not sure. :P its the only one i use. lol
[05:51] <davide_> so i need to download samba, configure it and than i can use a gui like smb4k... right?
[05:51] <dr_willis> ive not noticed if you still have to suid the smbmount and smbumount commands.
[05:51] <b0uncer> hi everyone! how do I get screenshots during kubuntu 6.06 installation, so they're saved and ready for use after the installation completes?
[05:51] <moopere> davide_: you can just apt-get smb4k, then u can browse smb/cifs shares right away
[05:51] <dr_willis> you can proberly browswe them with the normal KDE file manager now. :P
[05:52] <_Pete_> moopere: from the cmdline too ?
[05:52] <dr_willis> theres a differeance btweeen 'mounting' them and just 'browseing' them with the file manager
[05:52] <moopere> _Pete_: No, not the cmd line - you will need smbclient for that
[05:52] <dr_willis> smb:/
[05:52] <dr_willis> :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> the file managers under kde and gnome are both getting some dang handy features
[05:53] <_Pete_> moopere: ok, is smb4k gnome/kde specific ? e.g. if you use KDE and some other programs, can they access the shares also ? what come in mind, like XMMS/beep-media-player/VLC ?
[05:53] <moopere> dr_willis: yeah, but few of these nifty new features are as useful as they seem - for instance, most programs will not work until you 'mount' a share
[05:54] <moopere> _Pete_: kde, it pulls in about 150MB of kde stuff if you try to install from gnome/xubuntu
[05:54] <dr_willis> moopere:  only problem ive seen with the not mounting them - is video players wanting to copy the video to the hd befor it plays
[05:54] <dr_willis> but i tend to set up perment mounts anyway :P
[05:54] <moopere> dr_willis: ya, which can be pretty funny on a wireless link when you want to watch a dvd :))))
[05:55] <dr_willis> I do think the gnnome/kde des need a better way or mounting the smb shares.  :P but that could be considered a security issue i guess
[05:55] <moopere> and its the mounts that get all weird on you.  Win2K3 servers for instance will only work 'out of the box' with cifs, not with smbfs
[05:56] <dr_willis> and then ya got the 'spaces and oddities' in the file names. :P or the encrypted vs non encrypted passwords...
[05:56] <dr_willis> its amazing how badly ms did that cifs stuff
[05:57] <moopere> I cant see why I can right click on a share I've just surfed in konq and mount it
[05:57] <moopere> can=can't
[05:57] <nysosym> dr_willis: i can`t change the terminal, the computer crashs and there are some colored artefakts...
[05:58] <moopere> nysosym: and then you cant get back to x right?
[05:58] <dr_willis> nysosym:  clarify that statement.
[05:58] <nysosym> moopere: right
[05:58] <nysosym> :-/
[05:58] <nysosym> i think the problem is the nvidia driver...
[05:58] <nysosym> but in RC1 all working very fine :(
[05:59] <moopere> nysosym: I've seen this on an old machine of mine with an S3 card, the S3 driver is stuffed.  Try using VESA and see if the problem is that same
[05:59] <moopere> what nvidia card u have?
[05:59] <nysosym> GFX 5900 Ultra
[06:00] <DaveQB> anyone here got a MSI K8N Neo2 NF3 platinum motherboard? Or simply knows of its compatibility ?
[06:00] <moopere> nysosym: should be fine, I've got a 5700 and it works great. Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, set back to nv driver (make sure it works) then try nvidia-glx enable again, should be fine
[06:01] <nysosym> thx, i will try it
[06:01] <nysosym> brb
[06:01] <synmoo> I'm having trouble getting my laptop display to turn off properly. When the power off timer expires, lines appear on the screen, the backlight stays on, and the image slowly 'bleeds' away as if the power has been removed from the LCD but not the backlight. It's a Dell Insperon 8500 with an Nvidia GF4.
[06:03] <moopere> synmoo: I've heard about this but not seen it - isn't there a special 'glue' program in the repo's made to fix this problem (anyone?) - do a search in synaptic on backlight
[06:04] <synmoo> Would it be in universe? haven't added synaptic.
[06:04] <moopere> synmoo: it might be, I've not used it, but read something about this problem on ubuntuforums.org
[06:05] <synmoo> moopere: thanks. I appreciate it.
[06:06] <synmoo> moopere: It's the only thing keeping me from attempting to use kubuntu full time on that machine. That and video fails to init when coming out of hibernate and suspend.
[06:06] <davide_> i have installed smb4k and i have configured a password (sudo smbpasswd name)
[06:06] <moopere> synmoo: Ah, hibernate and suspend, the holy grail for all linux distros
[06:07] <davide_> now, on smb4k, i can see this lan but i can't mount anything
[06:07] <synmoo> moopere: Indeed. If it were a desktop machine I wouldn't care less. Actually, if the display would power down properly, I wouldn't really ever need to suspend or hibernate.
[06:07] <moopere> davide_: what happens when u try to mount something?
[06:08] <moopere> synmoo: I've long since given up on hib/sus, even on winxp it seems hit n miss, some machines it works, others it won't
[06:09] <synmoo> moopere: On this machine, the insp 8500, even booting is hit or miss. The worst video card I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
[06:09] <synmoo> moopere: when it works, it works fine. Just plagued with intermittent init issues
[06:09] <moopere> synmoo: Really?  What vid u got?  I'm on an inspiron 8200 right now with a gf440go, seems good
[06:10] <synmoo> moopere: Insp 8500 with the same.
[06:10] <moopere> synmoo: wow, weird, this machine has been solid for me under warty, hoary, breezy now dapper
[06:11] <synmoo> I've re-seated the card on numerous occasions. No luck.  :D
[06:19] <synmoo> moopere: do you have the information for the synaptics repo?
[06:21] <magicbronson> hi, anyone know anything about editing smb.conf?
[06:21] <iNiku> magicbronson: that's kinda vague
[06:21] <magicbronson> sorry...
[06:21] <magicbronson> i want to set up my samba share to allow only certain users to connect
[06:22] <jpatrick> magicbronson: man:/smb.conf in konqueror
[06:22] <iNiku> man smb.conf has all the options
[06:22] <magicbronson> but the kubuntu 'sharing' gui seems broken
[06:22] <magicbronson> i looked at the manpage
[06:22] <synmoo> moopere: Nevermind! Success! I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and redid the config that was created installing dapper. The backlight now turns off properly.
[06:22] <magicbronson> i wasn't able to tell how
[06:23] <magicbronson> i have an external hard drive mounted at /media/sda that i want to share via samba
[06:23] <Terminus> magicbronson: i'm not sure what other options are necessary, but you'll want security = user and then you should just use smbpasswd to add your users and their passwords.
[06:23] <magicbronson> ok, i've done all that
[06:23] <Terminus> magicbronson: did it work? :)
[06:24] <magicbronson> what i want to do is have only two users that can access the share: one is myself, with admin access, and the other is guest, which has only read access
[06:24] <magicbronson> how do i set that up?
[06:24] <Terminus> magicbronson: the passwords for winme and below and win2k and up are different from each other so you'll have to take care of that...
[06:24] <magicbronson> Terminus: partially. i was able to mount it from another computer using my account but i only had read access
[06:25] <Terminus> magicbronson: i just use chmod to limit access...
[06:25] <magicbronson> Terminus: i only care about mounting it from my Mac, so does that matter?
[06:25] <Terminus> magicbronson: i don't know anything about macs.
[06:25] <magicbronson> Terminus: ok, well i think it doesn't
[06:25] <iNiku> magicbronson: it shouldn't matter
[06:26] <magicbronson> what happens if i screw something up and i want to start from scratch?
[06:26] <iNiku> make a backup copy of your smb.conf before you start playing with it?
[06:26] <Terminus> magicbronson: what i did here, is place myself in the staff group, have the dir owned by root:staff, and give it 0775 perms. that way people who aren't root or members or staff are read only.
[06:26] <magicbronson> right but then how do you delete all samba users you've added?
[06:27] <Terminus> errr... members of staff.
[06:27] <magicbronson> makes sense
[06:27] <iNiku> magicbronson: um... make a copy of the samba passwd file, too?
[06:27] <Terminus> magicbronson: well, if you want, purge the entire thing and install again.
[06:28] <magicbronson> so all the settings are contained within smb.conf and smbpasswd?
[06:28] <dr_willis> !samba
[06:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how to change the default browser? i used to use firefox for long time.. now i am moving toward konqueror..
[06:28] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[06:28] <dr_willis> that last URL is a Must read/bookmark :P
[06:29] <magicbronson> i've looked at the second one, but the last looks promising
[06:29] <magicbronson> thanks
[06:29] <dr_willis> the last is the Using samba book. :P in html form
[06:29] <dr_willis> its a little out of date in some ways. but still solid info.
[06:30] <Terminus> magicbronson: samba has a bunch of files /var/lib/samba/ and /var/cache/samba/
[06:30] <magicbronson> i thought so
[06:30] <magicbronson> so if you want to reset it do you have to purge those, or is the best bet to just uninstall the package?
[06:30] <magicbronson> (does that remove caches and such?)
[06:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how to change the default browser? i used to use firefox for long time.. now i am moving toward konqueror..
[06:31] <Terminus> magicbronson: uninstall will definitely not remove the config. purge should. i'm not sure if that includes files in /var
[06:31] <magicbronson> ok, thanks
[06:31] <iNiku> magicbronson: you can also remove a samba user with smbpasswd -x
[06:32] <magicbronson> right
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how to change the default browser? i used to use firefox for long time.. now i am moving toward konqueror..
[06:33] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: !repeat
[06:33] <iNiku> !repeat
[06:33] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !not answer
[06:33] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <dr_willis> !look in the menus
[06:34] <ubotu> dr_willis: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <dr_willis> !think
[06:34] <dr_willis> :P
[06:34] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dr_willis
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nobody reads things that are outside the screen
[06:34] <magicbronson> oh, another question: when is "/etc/init.d/samba restart" necessary instead of just "/etc/init.d/samba reload"
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !enjoy
[06:34] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:35] <dr_willis> magicbronson:  ive never actually done a reload. :P i guess ya would want to reload when  you got active samba connections
[06:35] <iNiku> Tallia1Kubuntu: it's a little frustrating when someone repeats the same question over and over again, when no one knows the answer
[06:35] <magicbronson> fair enough
[06:35] <dr_willis> or when the answer is right in the logical setting/control panel place.
[06:35] <iNiku> dr_willis: that, too
[06:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah, maybe that was too often... it seemed to be more time to me.. ops :)
[06:36] <dr_willis> settings->kde_components->default applications.
[06:36] <kkathman> would anyone have an idea why kubuntu would not be able to process my keyboard, while ubuntu/gnome handles it just fine on the same box
[06:36] <dr_willis> it pays to 'explore' the  kde settings. :)
[06:36] <Tonio_> yo
[06:36] <kronoz> still 950+ people from the dapper rush in #ubuntu :)
[06:37] <iNiku> kronoz: I think the most I saw was 1085 :)
[06:37] <kkathman> dr_willis: well, that goes without saying, however, it just "stopped" one evening and never worked again
[06:37] <iNiku> could barely read my own text...
[06:37] <moopere> kronoz: crazy stuff eh?  How can anyone talk in a room with a thousand people in it?
[06:37] <kkathman> and the keyboard is just fine, works with SUSE and works with ubuntu on the same box :)
[06:38] <dr_willis> moopere:  1/2 of them are ideling. and the other half are asking questions in the FAQ.
[06:38] <kkathman> so obviously its kubuntu. But a developer did tell me that there was an annoying bug regarding the keyboard but didnt get much more specific
[06:38] <dr_willis> and the other 1/2 are just enjoying the show. :P
[06:38] <kronoz> moopere: oddly gentoo usually has about 1000 people all the time, prehaps because it is so difficult :p
[06:39] <synmoo> moopere: did you see mt earlyer messages? running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixed the problem.
[06:39] <synmoo> moopere: choose the nvidia proprietary rather than the nv driver.
[06:40] <synmoo> moopere: Still cannot recover from suspend to disk or suspend to ram though. But I suppose that is somewhat moot now that the display turns off properly.
[06:41] <moopere> synmoo: I got disco'd :)  Sorry
[06:42] <moopere> synmoo: So u running the nv driver or the nvidia one now?
[06:42] <synmoo> moopere: no problem.  I seem to have all of the deal-breaker issues out of the way. Perhaps I can use this as my primary OS.
[06:42] <synmoo> moopere: nvidia
[06:42] <magicbronson> quick question: does a semicolon in front of a line in smb.conf comment it out? if so, what's the difference between ; and #?
[06:42] <dr_willis> magicbronson:  some programs use dofferent comment characters
[06:43] <dr_willis> ; is a comment for samba config files
[06:43] <magicbronson> it seems to use hash too
[06:43] <moopere> synmoo: I'm thinking of ditching XP for good on the main box and just vnc or rdesking into a win2K box for quickbooks from my kubuntu box on an 'as needed' basis
[06:43] <dr_willis> and a # is also. :P
[06:43] <dr_willis> ; is in front of lines that you may want just 'uncomment'
[06:43] <dr_willis> # is documention comments - it seems
[06:44] <magicbronson> that's what i thought, thanks
[06:44] <dr_willis> read the file. :P about line 8 - explains their use of ; and #
[06:44] <dr_willis> :P
[06:44] <magicbronson> oh, i must have missed that at the top
[06:44] <dr_willis> line 10 specificially . :P
[06:44] <magicbronson> you win!
[06:45] <synmoo> moopere: I have an older dell stashed away in my closet running win2k 24/7 for my file sharing/torrenting needs. I could drop in there as needed. I also have a WinXP MCE box in my home theatre rack.
[06:45] <synmoo> moopere: I tried myth tv, I really did. I just isn't ready for prime time.
[06:46] <magicbronson> what do PDC and BDC stand for?
[06:46] <moopere> synmoo: Yeah, I know what u mean - u just have to use the best app for the job
[06:46] <synmoo> magicbronson: primary domain controller and backup dc
[06:46] <b0uncer> damn
[06:46] <moopere> synmoo: I've not found a replacement for dvdshrink/dvddecrypter either
[06:47] <b0uncer> why don't I get any sound out of the KDE cd-player, when all the annoying sound effects do work (like when I log in)?
[06:47] <magicbronson> hmm, where could i look up what that means? i'm not understanding the whole "Domains" sectin of smb.conf
[06:47] <synmoo> magicbronson: I assume you're configuring samba? are you trying to join a windows domain?
[06:47] <magicbronson> no, set up my own
[06:47] <synmoo> magicbronson: you're tyring to set up your own windows domain? are you just trying to share files with your other home windows boxen?
[06:47] <b0uncer> could anybody help me get some sound out of the cd player?
[06:47] <magicbronson> well, mac, but yes
[06:48] <moopere> b0uncer: you got an audio cable from your cd drive to your sound card?
[06:48] <Terminus> magicbronson: if you're gonna have just two users, you don't need a domain. :p
[06:48] <b0uncer> Moopere, this is a laptop
[06:48] <synmoo> magicbronson: If you set up a windows share on the mac, you should be able to connect to it with kubuntu with no additional config.
[06:48] <b0uncer> so I could guess yes
[06:48] <moopere> b0uncer: ah, pretty recent lappy?
[06:48] <henyar> hi everyone
[06:48] <b0uncer> moopere, yes, bought just two days ago
[06:48] <henyar> I cant update to dapper
[06:49] <synmoo> b0uncer: and already dumping windows? :-)
[06:49] <henyar> because I had already installed crystall package
[06:49] <b0uncer> synmoo, I did that before the first boot ;)
[06:49] <henyar> and it conflicts with kwin-crystal
[06:49] <moopere> b0uncer: chances are that there is no audio out cable from the CDROM - XP etc now uses digital as default, this can be a problem for linux
[06:49] <henyar> apt-get remove crystal doesn't work
[06:49] <henyar> and now kubunt-default settings is not installing
[06:49] <b0uncer> moopere, how on earth?
[06:50] <b0uncer> why would it be
[06:50] <serenity> hi
[06:50] <moopere> b0uncer: I don't know how to set digital audio out (in??) under linux
[06:50] <serenity> i have an entry in adapt but this peice of software can't be deinstalled
[06:50] <serenity> what should i do?
[06:50] <b0uncer> oh man
[06:51] <b0uncer> I'm starting to hate Microsoft and their devilish creations more and more day by day
[06:51] <moopere> b0uncer: you might have to google this one if noone knows the answer here
[06:51] <b0uncer> guess so..thanks anyway, I hope I get this working
[06:52] <dennis_p> relax klik and play a game of planetpenguin-racer and be happy (yeah my nvidia drivers work)
[06:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys, i have a problem with konqueror.. when i am in the address bar, when i press a modifier key (ctrl, alt or shift) the cursor moves automatically to the address that is already typed in, for example i can't add a semicolon in the middle of an address, or correct it, if i mistyped.. do you have any suggestion?
[06:53] <defrysk> b0uncer, just use xmms as cd player with the cd plug in
[06:54] <dennis_p> Ther were not that many games in kubuntu repository so I used debian games http://klik.atekon.de/wiki/index.php/How_to_use_klik
[06:55] <b0uncer> defrysk, I wouldn't want to install too many "external" apps to this system..if I have a cd player, I'd like it to work
[06:55] <moopere> b0uncer: Hey, I see on kde 3.5.3 (maybe 3.5.2 too!) that you can set kcd for digital audio, try that, its not the default but can be set from options
[06:55] <dr_willis> i just enable all the other repos. :P
[06:55] <b0uncer> moopere, really? I'm gonna try ->
[06:55] <defrysk> b0uncer, then check if you have the cd audio cable installed and otherwise get one
[06:56] <magicbronson> in smb.conf, what's the difference between 'writable = no' and 'read only = yes' ?
[06:56] <b0uncer> defrhy
[06:56] <b0uncer> sorry
[06:56] <b0uncer> defrysk, I wonder why a laptop would not have it installed?
[06:57] <defrysk> its unlikely its not there
[06:57] <moopere> b0uncer: only because a lot of new machines, both laptop and desktop are made for XP, I've seen heaps of machines this year go past my desk with no audio cable
[06:57] <b0uncer> really?
[06:57] <defrysk> Moo, didnt know that
[06:58] <moopere> b0uncer: yep, its the way of the future (cough!)
[06:58] <b0uncer> hmm..but doesn't such a thing belong to the laptop when I buy it?
[06:58] <b0uncer> I mean, I'm buying a working system
[06:58] <b0uncer> not some cable-missing trash
[06:58] <defrysk> b0uncer, yes
[06:58] <moopere> b0uncer: not necessarily
[06:58] <defrysk> ic
[06:58] <iNiku> b0uncer: you'll get better audio using digital extraction, anyway
[06:58] <moopere> b0uncer: you will have built in sound on the lappy, it probably doesn't have an audio 'in' port any more, I know all the current intel desktop boards don't have audio in any more
[06:59] <iNiku> chances are the d/a converter on your audio chip is better than the one in the cheapo cd-rom
[06:59] <iNiku> dunno about kcd, but there has been a cd-da plugin for xmms for years
[07:00] <b0uncer> well what would be the easiest way to get this thing work?
[07:00] <pablo_> alguien ha conseguido meter XGL en KDE ?
[07:00] <b0uncer> besides getting xmms
[07:01] <moopere> b0uncer: kdc -> extras -> configure kcd -> use direct digital
[07:01] <moopere> kdc=kcd
[07:01] <b0uncer> moopere, tried that, and it's telling me (even as root) that I don't have permissions on /dev/hdc
[07:01] <b0uncer> :(
[07:01] <b0uncer> what should the "sound device" be?
[07:01] <defrysk> b0uncer, use kdesu
[07:02] <b0uncer>  /dev/snd/control-something ?
[07:02] <Admiral> does anyone know how to prompt for passwords in samba
[07:03] <Admiral> i have the users set up but i dont know how to make samba prompt them for passwords when they try to acess files
[07:03] <iNiku> Admiral: you mean they can mount your samba share with no password?
[07:04] <b0uncer> does it have something to do with this that when I open Amarok, the part of the menu that'd let me play an audio cd, is grayed out?
[07:04] <dale_gribble> i've noticed that no sound plays after upgrading from breezy to dapper, does anyone have any suggestions?  I see the EQ moving in amarok
[07:04] <Admiral> people on the windows computers can see the files
[07:05] <visik7> smb protocol sucks
[07:05] <Admiral> visik7: serisusly
[07:05] <visik7> btw
[07:05] <b0uncer> what's wrong with it
[07:06] <visik7> I'm serius
[07:06] <b0uncer> "serious" you mean
[07:06] <b0uncer> or "sirius", perhaps? :)
[07:06] <Admiral> b0uncer: its a b to set up
[07:07] <Admiral> what security level should i be running?
[07:07] <visik7> user
[07:07] <visik7> if no special needs
[07:07] <b0uncer> admiral, it's a what? :)
[07:07] <b0uncer> just tried XMMS, it is "playing" the cd too but no sound coming out...
[07:07] <Admiral> beast
[07:07] <b0uncer> admiral, how so?
[07:08] <b0uncer> I don't think I had too much problems with it last time.
[07:08] <b0uncer> more than with Windows file sharing, anyway
[07:08] <Admiral> i've been at it for like 8 hours
[07:08] <Admiral> at least
[07:09] <Admiral> point is, how can i get users to log in
[07:09] <dale_gribble> i wonder if a different module or something has to be loaded
[07:09] <dale_gribble> i have alsa running
[07:09] <b0uncer> how can you not, Admiral?
[07:09] <b0uncer> what's the exact problem?
[07:10] <Admiral> security level ATM is user. it allows people to read all share names before a log in is required
[07:10] <Admiral> i want to first log in, then look at files
[07:11] <b0uncer> read the man pages already?
[07:11] <Admiral> yea
[07:11] <Admiral> its crap
[07:11] <iNiku> Admiral: share names or file names?
[07:11] <Admiral> i hate the documentation for samba
[07:11] <b0uncer> well, I guess you can have problems with it :) I just set up shares that didn't need anything supernatural...
[07:12] <Admiral> i don know what any of that means?
[07:12] <Admiral> *!
[07:12] <Admiral> what is the difference
[07:12] <iNiku> Admiral: a share is a network drive that someone can mount
[07:12] <iNiku> a file is a file, obviously
[07:12] <Admiral> yea i get the file part
[07:12] <iNiku> Admiral: shares are by default browseable, which means everyone can see what shares a computer offers
[07:13] <iNiku> but when you try to connect to a share (to mount the network drive), you are asked for a user name and password
[07:13] <Admiral> i can see the files without logging in (on windows)
[07:13] <iNiku> do you have the same user name and password on the windows box as in samba?
[07:13] <b0uncer> exit
[07:13] <b0uncer> damn
[07:13] <b0uncer> :D
[07:13] <b0uncer> wrong window
[07:14] <Admiral> what do  you mean on windows?
[07:14] <iNiku> Admiral: you said you can see the files on your linux box from your windows machine without any password?
[07:14] <iNiku> Admiral: so, do you log in to the windows box using the same user name and password that you have configured in samba?
[07:15] <Admiral> you mean log in to the actual OS?
[07:17] <iNiku> Admiral: yes
[07:18] <iNiku> Admiral: it may be trying the same username and password automatically to connect to the samba share
[07:18] <iNiku> or it may not, dunno. I don't really do windows.
[07:19] <desarrollo01> Hello
[07:19] <_Shade_> how do i change the gtk based applications look to my qt theme ?
[07:19] <desarrollo01> bobesponja
[07:19] <ctw> Hi, is there an easy way to use a custom keyboard layout (I'd like a mix between the American and German layout)
[07:20] <bobesponja> desarrollo01: yes
[07:20] <simp> ok ukdave, well i boot up the system properly... i log on, and then after a while the crash happens... i get a "scrappy" screen that has been frozen and have to do a hard reset...
[07:20] <desarrollo01> hola que tal ???? de donde eres???
[07:20] <defrysk> _Shade_, systemsettings appearence
[07:20] <_Shade_> i've got gtk-engines-qt package installed but it doesn't work (i tried synaptic - it looks the same)
[07:21] <desarrollo01> Hola Me podrias explicar este medio
[07:21] <iNiku> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:21] <_Shade_> defrysk: i know, there's a section called gtk themes but it doesn;t work for me
[07:21] <anna__> Is there a development metapackage for kubuntu?
[07:22] <frank_> anna__: there is build-essential
[07:22] <defrysk> no gtk styles and fonts
[07:22] <anna__> Thanks frank!
[07:22] <frank_> compiler, make, etc
[07:22] <defrysk> _Shade_, set it to use my kde style in gtk apps
[07:22] <anna__> :)
[07:22] <defrysk> and use my kde fonts an kde apps
[07:23] <_Shade_> defrysk: already done, and nothing :(
[07:23] <defrysk> _Shade_, klicked apply ?
[07:24] <_Shade_> defrysk: sure
[07:24] <Wes> Who is the adm ???
[07:24] <defrysk> _Shade_, too bad then
[07:24] <Wes> Ese soy yo Mario
[07:24] <_Shade_> it seems to work for firefox, but not with synaptic
[07:25] <defrysk> _Shade_, correct synaptic does not take
[07:26] <tRSS> GL screensavers don;t work. any ideas?
[07:26] <_Shade_> defrysk: some time ago i found geramic theme for gtk which is keramic equivalent for gtk but i cant find it fo kubuntu
[07:26] <Admiral> i set the security level to user
[07:27] <Admiral> is the way to go?
[07:27] <_Shade_> defrysk: i use synaptic because i find adept sucks
[07:27] <defrysk> _Shade_, apt-cache search geramik and take your pick
[07:27] <tRSS> apt-get rocks!
[07:27] <Admiral> anyone know how i can set up samba?
[07:28] <defrysk> hehe
[07:28] <tRSS> my GL screensavers aren't working. any ideas about how I can fix it?
[07:29] <_Shade_> defrysk: and can i install some themes from gnome-look,org and use them without having gnome installed ?
[07:29] <defrysk> no
[07:29] <defrysk> _Shade_, nope
[07:29] <defrysk> _Shade_, apt-cache search geramik and take your pick
[07:30] <defrysk> tRSS, got acceleration ?
[07:30] <tRSS> defrysk: how can I check?
[07:30] <defrysk> glxinfo | grep direct
[07:30] <defrysk> do that
[07:30] <_Shade_> defrysk: it gives... nothing
[07:30] <defrysk> nothing ?
[07:31] <defrysk> _Shade_, got universe/multiverse ?
[07:31] <_Shade_> def exactly
[07:31] <tRSS> defrysk: I get this: direct rendering: No \n OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:31] <_Shade_> just universe
[07:31] <defrysk> tRSS, then your ss wil not do gl
[07:31] <defrysk> _Shade_, get multiverse
[07:31] <tRSS> defrysk: :( but thanks for your help
[07:32] <_Shade_> defrysk: ok can you give me some details ?
[07:32] <defrysk> _Shade_, for what ?
[07:32] <defrysk> hot to set it up ?
[07:32] <defrysk> how*
[07:32] <Wes> excuse me for interrup your conversation, i speak spanish and so so english, and i want make a question... Where are you from?
[07:32] <_Shade_> defrysk: the url etc
[07:32] <defrysk> url for multiverse ?
[07:33] <defrysk> !repos
[07:33] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:33] <defrysk> read ubotus message
[07:33] <jaro> can somebody help me convert .tga to .png right ?
[07:34] <henning> hi all i installed nvidia-glx package but i can't see the nvidia logo or choose higher solutions, is there something i forgot to do?
[07:34] <defrysk> jared_, not sure but you could try the gimp
[07:34] <defrysk> henning, in dapper ?
[07:34] <henning> yeah
[07:34] <jaro> ok, but how can i  do it all in one step ?
[07:34] <jaro> i dont want to convert them one by one
[07:34] <defrysk> henning do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:34] <jaro> that would take ages
[07:35] <defrysk> jaro, dunno
[07:35] <jaro> apt-get install dunno
[07:35] <henning> i did, what now? restart session?
[07:35] <defrysk> henning and do after restarting X  glxinfo | grep direct to check if it works
[07:36] <defrysk> henning, yes restart x
[07:36] <[BU] Brizz> does anyone know how to integrate kpdf with firefox so it opens inside the Firefox window?
[07:37] <Magoo> kpdf ?
[07:37] <Magoo> sorry !
[07:37] <linuxbambi> ahm i guess it did not work
[07:37] <bhna> [BU] Brizz: there is no kpdf plugin for firefox
[07:37] <linuxbambi> i still saw no logo
[07:37] <[BU] Brizz> bhna: is there any pdf integration for Firefox on KDE?
[07:38] <linuxmonkey> how do I update to kde 3.5.3, i allready added the repo
[07:38] <tRSS> when I upgraded from breezy to dapper, my k3b mysteriously disappeared!? although, it was not a big deal, I simply apt-get'ed it, but is this normal?
[07:38] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, you could get mozilla-acroread for pdf as plug-in
[07:38] <bhna> [BU] Brizz: there is an acrobat-reader plugin for firefox, (or kpdf in konqueror)
[07:39] <[BU] Brizz> defrysk: do I need to do anything other than an apt-get?
[07:39] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, restart firefox
[07:39] <defrysk> thats it
[07:39] <[BU] Brizz> kewl :_)
[07:39] <linuxbambi> i still don't see the nvidia logo
[07:40] <_Shade_> defrysk: it worked, i wonder if it does to the other apps as well
[07:40] <linuxmonkey> linuxbambi: i didnt see a nvidia logo and it works for me
[07:40] <defrysk> linuxbambi, glxinfo | grep direct
[07:40] <defrysk> check it out
[07:40] <[BU] Brizz> hmm is mozilla-acroread not on universe?
[07:40] <defrysk> the logo it not seen on speedy pc's
[07:41] <bhna> [BU] Brizz: multiverse
[07:41] <defrysk> [BU] Brizz, probably on multi
[07:41] <linuxmonkey> any one got the steps to install KDE 3.5.3?
[07:41] <bhna> linuxmonkey: yes
[07:41] <thompa> !kubuntu
[07:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:41] <[BU] Brizz> how do I add multiverse?
[07:41] <[BU] Brizz> !multiverse
[07:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:42] <thompa> the steps are on the kubuntu site
[07:42] <linuxmonkey> thompa:  i didnt see them
[07:42] <bhna> [BU] Brizz: you can do it with adept
[07:42] <linuxmonkey> the only thing i seen is to add repo's for it wich ive done
[07:42] <thompa> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[07:42] <thompa> well thats all you do, then update
[07:43] <thompa> dist-upgrade or whatever
[07:43] <RadiantFire> I've found 2 glitches
[07:43] <RadiantFire> icons no longer lock to grid
[07:43] <RadiantFire> and kdm lineedits draw without frame
[07:43] <[BU] Brizz> well I know how to add them I just need the lines to add
[07:43] <RadiantFire> but other than that its all good
[07:43] <thompa> the columbia.edu repo is down so leave that one out
[07:43] <tRSS> thompa: i have kde-3.5.2, how can I upgrade to 3.5.3?
[07:44] <tRSS> thompa: i got 3.5.2 when I upgraded to dapper
[07:44] <thompa> add these to your repos http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[07:44] <taw> hello :-)
[07:44] <thompa> leave out columbia.edu
[07:44] <thompa> then adept will say you got updates waiting
[07:45] <defrysk> tRSS, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[07:45] <thompa> gnuchess is running away process and would not stop
[07:46] <linuxmonkey> thompa: thanks i had forgotten to save my sources.list
[07:46] <linuxmonkey> its working now :)
[07:46] <Shaezsche> any idea why my kubuntu feezes on the load splash screeN? it loads everything up, then the loadbar gets stuck
[07:46] <RadiantFire> roflmao @ linuxmonkey
[07:46] <linuxmonkey> i know thats what happens when you try to work so fast
[07:47] <thompa> you may have to reboot, i had a problem with desktop settings initially
[07:47] <taw> i have a few small problems with kubuntu (dapper drake) :-)
[07:47] <taw> first, can i get the automounter to simply automount everything, instead of making the popups ?
[07:48] <thompa> something is messed up with the chess programs, gnuchess takes all cpu and wont shut off
[07:48] <taw> and second, what the heck is gam_server and why is it sometimes taking so much cpu :-D
[07:48] <RadiantFire> thompa: use "knights" and "phalanx"
[07:48] <robin> anyone here using rt2500 wifi card ?
[07:48] <RadiantFire> knights is a kde program, annd phalanx is its backend
[07:48] <Shaezsche> is there a repair command from safemode? just a general check/repair for a linux noob?
[07:48] <thompa> i was using knights and gnuchess
[07:48] <robin> I can't get it to work with WPA :\
[07:48] <RadiantFire> thompa: use phalanx as the backend instead
[07:48] <robin> !rt2500
[07:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robin
[07:48] <thompa> ok thanks
[07:49] <Shaezsche> is there a repair command from safemode? just a general check/repair for a linux noob?
[07:51] <thompa> RadiantFire: how do i get knights and phalanx to work?
[07:51] <thompa> RadiantFire: should it show up in book engines?
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Shaezsche: do you have an idea of the problem?
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> grub or ?
[07:54] <Shaezsche> i have no idea, it booted fine last night
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> I was trying to add a mounted drive and could not get in until I edited a file etc/fstab
[07:54] <Shaezsche> the Only thing i can think of is i was giving my main user administrative controls in one of the settings options
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Dual boot system?
[07:54] <Shaezsche> yes its dual
[07:55] <Shaezsche> it will load everything up on the splash screen, then blink black and come back to the kubuntu splash again and just freeze
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Im very new here myself, I have used Mepis for years
[07:55] <Shaezsche> i can power down, and it will unload everything
[07:55] <Shaezsche> so the system is still responsive
[07:55] <kronoz> Sheazsche, how many times have you tried to boot it?
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> did you change screen settings res
[07:55] <Shaezsche> nope
[07:55] <defrysk> Jack_Sparrow, mepis switches to ubuntu and you decided to do the same ?
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> what about F2 on boot to try and see where it is crashing
[07:55] <kronoz> Shaezsche: i've had that problem before
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[07:56] <thompa> when i play knights the computer just sits there and does not move
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> I wanted a jump start with whatever warren comes up with
[07:56] <kronoz> Shaezsche: it's usually becuase something is wrong with xorg and it isn't starting
[07:56] <Chris_H> i have a problem trying to install Audacity on my machine
[07:56] <thompa> so im missing an engine maybe, but the requirements are all there
[07:56] <Chris_H> and im a bit of a linux newbie, can someone translate what it's saying?
[07:56] <kronoz> Shaezsche: have you changed anything to do with x.org? System Settings > display or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Will Audacity give my built in audio back its surround sound feel?
[07:57] <kronoz> !tell Chris_H about paste
[07:57] <kronoz> Chris_H ok
[07:57] <Chris_H> trouble is kronoz, im not on Linux noew
[07:57] <Chris_H> *now
[07:58] <Chris_H> okay, i burned the .deb file onto a disc and called it "Linux apps" cause i intend to put other stuff on there
[07:58] <robin> Anyone here using rt2500 wifi card succesfully with WPA ?
[07:58] <Chris_H> im using the latest Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 and the latest stable linux Audacity version (for ubuntu based distros)
[08:00] <Chris_H> then when i put the disc in, it appears on the desktop, so i open the folder and the .deb file is in there
[08:00] <Chris_H> i right click on it, and i choose "Install"
[08:00] <Chris_H> before i get onto the error message, is the correct way of installing?
[08:01] <kronoz> Chris_H, yes, that or right click > action > open terminal > sudo dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb
[08:01] <thompa> knights wont work at all, they should remove it from the repos
[08:01] <Chris_H> i'll try that now kronoz
[08:02] <kronoz> Chris_H, tell us the error first
[08:02] <kronoz> Chris_H, it's probably easy to fix
[08:02] <Chris_H> okay, i'll go and find out what it is
[08:02] <Chris_H> brb
[08:04] <Chris_H> kronoz, it isnt mounting automatically like it was
[08:04] <Chris_H> how do i mount again?
[08:04] <Chris_H> not used to having to do it
[08:05] <kronoz> Chris, can't you just install it with Adept?
[08:05] <kronoz> Chris_H, or apt-get install audicity
[08:05] <kronoz> Chris_H, does a usb stick appear on the desktop?
[08:06] <Chris_H> no
[08:06] <Chris_H> its on a CD
[08:06] <Chris_H> what is Adept?
[08:07] <Shaezsche> kronoz: sorry was afk, in fact i think i did edit x11, how can i change it back!?!?!
[08:07] <vonHalenbach> Chris_H: a packetmanager.
[08:07] <Chris_H> okay, and it's built into Linux? i'll try it now
[08:07] <kronoz> Shaezsche, how did you change it?
[08:07] <Chris_H> wait, dont i need to mount the disc first?
[08:09] <kronoz> Chris_H, just go to kmenu > system > adept > put you password in > search for audicity > right click > mark install > apply > wait for it to finish installing
[08:09] <Chris_H> okay, thanks kronoz
[08:09] <Shaezsche> kronoz i dont remember
[08:09] <Chris_H> i'll try it now, let you know how it goes
[08:09] <Chris_H> thanks for the help
[08:09] <Shaezsche> oh, i think i installed the 915gm driver from the intel website
[08:09] <Shaezsche> it had the i810 installed
[08:10] <Shaezsche> which worked, but i thought id try an upgrade
[08:10] <kronoz> Shaeze, you got to kubuntu live cd? or in rescue mode ls /etc/X11 is their a backup of anykind of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:10] <kronoz> ?
[08:11] <Shaezsche> i dont know what to do in rescue mode
[08:11] <Shaezsche> what if i find a backup?
[08:11] <Shaezsche> i am on winxp atm
[08:11] <Shaezsche> if i find a backup in rescue mode, what shall i do?
[08:11] <Chris_H> kronoz, it doesnt obtain any search results
[08:12] <Chris_H> are you sure i dont need to mount the disc first?
[08:13] <kronoz> Chris_H, is the machine connected to the internet? if not you will have to use the disk
[08:15] <Chris_H> im afraid not
[08:16] <dein> hi
[08:16] <kronoz> ok, so is their a usb icon in the desktop?
[08:16] <dein> anyone know how to reset OSS?
[08:16] <Shaezsche> if i find a backup in rescue mode, what shall i do?
[08:16] <kronoz> Shaezsche: replace xorg.conf with the backup
[08:16] <dein> i think fce ultra uses it for sound, and i keep getting a the sound device is busy error
[08:17] <Shaezsche> yea how do i do that within rescue mode? i dont know the commands? there is no windows interface
[08:18] <dein> never mind i found it
[08:19] <Shaezsche> ?
[08:19] <Chris_H> kronoz, it's not on the internet
[08:19] <Chris_H> so how do i install it from the disc?
[08:20] <kronoz> well does it auto mount?
[08:20] <kronoz> !mount
[08:20] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:22] <DrBair> has anyone gotten an aironet card working in dapper?
[08:22] <Shaezsche> ...
[08:23] <sampan> anyone else having trouble printing pdf files after upgrading to dapper?
[08:24] <sampan> acroread is installed, but everytime i try to print pdf (from konq, from kpdf, from acroread) my printer just stalls out -- printing other stuff works fine and dandy
[08:25] <Chris_H> kronoz, it doesnt auto mount
[08:25] <Chris_H> it has done, but its not any more :S
[08:25] <Shaezsche> if i find a backup in rescue mode, what shall i do?
[08:26] <Shaezsche> yea how do i do that within rescue mode? i dont know the commands? there is no windows interface
[08:26] <slow-motion> re
[08:27] <robin> hi, I have to use ndiswrapper to be able to use WPA with my RT2500 driver, BUT, dapper already loads an opensource RT2500 driver.
[08:27] <robin> How can I disable it from loading at startup ?
[08:28] <robin> !modules
[08:28] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robin
[08:28] <robin> c'mon anyone :) ?
[08:29] <DrBair> robin: you'll need to add the module to udev's blacklist
[08:29] <robin> DrBair where is that file ?
[08:29] <DrBair> robin: /etc/modprobe.d/
[08:30] <robin> DrBair Thanks!
[08:31] <robin> ok reboot, to find out if it works ;)
[08:38] <Chris_H> is kronoz still here?
[08:38] <Shaezsche> doubt it
[08:39] <Chris_H> argh
[08:39] <Chris_H> can anyone tell me the basic command for mounting a disc please?
[08:39] <kronoz> Chris_H: yeah
[08:40] <kronoz> sudo mount /dev/nameofdevicehere /media/usbstick
[08:40] <robin> ok back
[08:40] <robin> this very strange
[08:40] <robin> the RT2500 module isn't loaded
[08:41] <robin> but it seems the ndiswrapper isn't used either, because the wlan0 device isn't existing.
[08:41] <robin> but I got wifi throught the ra0 device
[08:41] <Shaezsche> kronoz: I LOVE YOU, but i need to know how to use a backup if i find it. i do not know replace commands
[08:41] <Shaezsche> recovery mode is strictly command prompt
[08:41] <robin> which is the device of the rt2500 modules that hasn't been loaded :S
[08:41] <robin> hm, how can I check which driver is used for my network now :D
[08:42] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[08:42] <DrBair> robin: probably none at all
[08:43] <kronoz> Shaezche, lol, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:43] <DrBair> robin: you'll probably need to do some configuring for ndis to work I'd imagine
[08:43] <kronoz> Shaezche, with the correct name of the backup obviously
[08:43] <DrBair> robin: but I've never touched it
[08:44] <sorush20> how can I increase the thumbnail size of a picture in koqueror to more than the maximum set ?
[08:46] <Shaezsche> kronoz THANK YOU
[08:47] <Chris_H> thanks kronoz
[08:47] <chavo> sorush20, I'm pretty sure the thumbnail size goes along with the icon zoom
[08:47] <brandon_> i'm trying to install kde-devel, but i get unmet dependencies
[08:48] <sorush20> chavo: I know that but I want the size to be bigger than what I have usually
[08:49] <kronoz> Shaezsche: it boots fine now?
[08:49] <chavo> you can increase the zoom for all icons and thumbnails, but not just for thumbnails
[08:50] <Shaezsche> koronz i cannot check, i would havce to log off winxp
[08:50] <adma> how do I playback dvd's?
[08:50] <Shaezsche> and im dling Suse atm
[08:50] <Shaezsche> at only 200k sec
[08:50] <rabby> how do i can install sqlite2 to kubuntu
[08:50] <Shaezsche> ill check in exactly 1 hour 40 minutes
[08:50] <brandon_> when i request kdebase-dev to install in adept, the message says "BREAK"
[08:51] <kkathman> brandon_:  hehe...appropriate :)
[08:51] <robin> ok I have figured it out
[08:51] <adma> I habe tried many different programs but always the same result: program terminated!
[08:51] <robin> ndiswrapper is using ra0 for some odd reason
[08:51] <Chris_H> kronoz: okay, it says when i install that there are "debependency problems"
[08:52] <adma> do I need something extra to play an ordinary dvd?
[08:52] <robin> instead of wlan0 which it says it uses.
[08:52] <Desh> Hi, my Dapper CD will not boot. I choose to start or intsall Kubuntu and it stays at the laoding logo. Also, CD check is stucj as Checking ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
[08:52] <robin> but it works, so who cares ;)
[08:52] <kronoz> Chris_H, with an unetworked pc that is a problem
[08:53] <kkathman> robotgeek:  are you around?
[08:53] <Chris_H> so are you saying its gonna be MUCH harder for me without having the internet on there?
[08:53] <chavo> !dvd
[08:53] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:53] <brandon_> why would these dev packages break the install?
[08:54] <kkathman> brandon_:  I dunno, kubuntu just began ignoring my keyboard for some reason and I cant get it to see it anymore, yet on the Gnome apps its fine :)
[08:55] <kkathman> and if I boot into Gnome, and run KDE apps, it works fine :)
[08:55] <kkathman> its frickin crazy
[08:55] <adma> thx :)
[08:56] <element4> Hello ppl!
[08:56] <rabby> good morning
[08:56] <IgKh> good evening
[08:56] <rabby> 1:01
[08:56] <element4> 21.00 here :D
[08:56] <rabby> :)
[08:56] <IgKh> 22:00
[08:57] <rabby> 1:01 - its morning
[08:57] <iNiku> 21:57 here :)
[08:57] <robin> 20:57 here
[08:57] <element4> rabby: youre in USA?
[08:57] <mmanton02> I installed xubuntu on my friends computer and I helped him apt-get both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop. That's not going to break anything right?
[08:57] <brandon_> is Riddell around?
[08:57] <Riddell> brandon_: a bit
[08:57] <rabby> element4: in Russia
[08:58] <element4> damn, is there such a big time diffrence!? Im in denmark!
[08:58] <brandon_> i think you've got a version numbering problem here, since the repo thinks these dev packages will break the system
[08:58] <IgKh> Is edgy open already?
[08:58] <Riddell> brandon_: which packages?
[08:59] <rabby> GTM +5
[08:59] <rabby> Moscow+2
[08:59] <brandon_> Riddell: kdesdk, libarts1-dev, kdelibs4-dev, kdebase-dev. libkonq4-dev
[08:59] <pekuja> mmanton02, it should be fine
[08:59] <kronoz> !tell lgKh about edgy
[09:00] <element4> rabby: ahh ok!
[09:00] <brandon_> Riddell, i'm using the kde-latest repo
[09:00] <Riddell> brandon_: dapper?
[09:00] <brandon_> Riddell: yes
[09:00] <element4> oh well guys, ive got a tiny question!! :)
[09:00] <element4> I have installed gxl and compiz, have do i start it! :)
[09:00] <Riddell> brandon_: and what's error does it say?
[09:01] <pipitas> Riddell: does it make sense to discuss CUPS default settings for Kubuntu with you/kubuntu-devs, or are you bound by a common policy (and I should rather discuss with $whoeverdecidespolicy) ?
[09:01] <Riddell> pipitas: CUPS is managed by pitti
[09:02] <Riddell> unless it's an issue with kdeprint
[09:02] <brandon_> Riddell: from the terminal, it says that the kde-devel metapackage has unmet dependencies, and then it lists the packages i just mentioned, although they're listed as being available. when i looked in adept, and requested them individually, it indicated that they would break the install
[09:02] <IgKh> kronoz: What should I be told?
[09:02] <kronoz> !edgy
[09:02] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[09:02] <kkathman> Riddell:  perhaps you can help... for some reason, kubuntu just quit recognizing my keyboard and hasnt seen it since (even on reboot). Yet, I can login to a Gnome session, run KDE apps and the keyboard is just fine?  Any ideas (im on dapper)?
[09:02] <pipitas> Riddell: the question is -- is Kubuntu able to use a different default, or are you bound by a common policy?
[09:03] <Riddell> pipitas: we're not able to, it's the same package in both
[09:03] <Riddell> kkathman: keyboard really shouldn't be any different with different desktops
[09:04] <kkathman> Riddell:  but it is tho...
[09:04] <kkathman> Riddell:  Honest I dont make this up .. its very irritating :(
[09:05] <kkathman> Not that Gnome is bad
[09:05] <brandon_> kkathman: do the lights work in kde?
[09:05] <kkathman> brandon I dont think I paid attention to the leds
[09:05] <kkathman> it was working...then stopped cold..and hasnt been back since
[09:06] <kkathman> seems a little silly to reinstall just to get a keyboard to work :)
[09:06] <flo> when im doing sudo konqueror i'm geting this
[09:06] <Riddell> kkathman: presumably it works in kdm then breaks in login?
[09:06] <flo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:06] <flo>   Major opcode:  148
[09:06] <Riddell> flo: ignore it
[09:06] <flo>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:06] <flo>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:06] <Desh> Can someone help me with my Dapper installation?
[09:06] <flo> Failed to open device
[09:06] <flo> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:07] <flo>   Major opcode:  148
[09:07] <defrysk> flo, dont paste nhere like that
[09:07] <flo>   Minor opcode:  3
[09:07] <flo>   Resource id:  0x0
[09:07] <brandon_> Riddell, maybe he's accidentally running a crazy xmodmap file and not realizing it
[09:07] <kkathman> Riddell:  Actually the splash login I have the keyboard just fine..but when it brings up the desktop it loses it somehow
[09:07] <defrysk> geez
[09:07] <flo> Failed to open device
[09:07] <flo> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[09:07] <flo> and konqueror wont start
[09:07] <flo>  what' s hapening?
[09:07] <defrysk> can someone kick flo to stop this ?
[09:07] <flo> why kik me?
[09:07] <iNiku> flo:
[09:07] <iNiku> !paste
[09:07] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[09:07] <defrysk> flo, you are flooding the channel
[09:07] <kkathman> I can still use the mouse...so I've (several times' gone to the keyboard settings and tried to reset to US
[09:08] <flo> sory
[09:08] <defrysk> flo, read the topic
[09:08] <flo> can someone help me?
[09:08] <Desh> Can someone help me? I have Dapper installed, but I want to do a clean reinstall. how would I do this?
[09:08] <defrysk> flo try kdesu konqueror
[09:11] <Desh> Is there a way to install Dapper in the same way one would insta;; Breezy?
[09:11] <Desh> *nistall
[09:11] <Desh> **install
[09:11] <defrysk> yes
[09:11] <Riddell> kkathman: try moving ~/.kde out the way while logged out
[09:12] <defrysk> there is a downloadable cd made for instal only
[09:12] <Desh> How? the LiveCD won't even boot up for me.
[09:12] <flo> kdesu konqueror won't work either
[09:12] <kkathman> Riddell:  and let it build a new one?
[09:12] <Desh> It gets stuck at a KUBUNTU screen.
[09:12] <Riddell> kkathman: yes
[09:12] <defrysk> flo, in kde ?
[09:12] <kkathman> Hmm thats worth a shot..thanks Riddell
[09:12] <flo> yes
[09:12] <Desh> >_< Why is this not working? WHat is the command to reconfigutre xserver?
[09:12] <flo> y get the same mesage
[09:13] <defrysk> I heard another person with this prob , he made a seperate root account ,did you do that too
[09:13] <defrysk> ??
[09:13] <defrysk> flo
[09:13] <flo> no y have only amy acount
[09:14] <defrysk> flo, it works fine here
[09:14] <defrysk> no clue why it happens ?
[09:15] <flo> no ...can it be for my x config?
[09:15] <defrysk> dunno
[09:16] <IgKh> I have the same problem as flo
[09:16] <Desh> >_< ok, on the installer cd, the normla desktop one, I can get to a command line, as ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[09:16] <defrysk> sounds like a but to me then
[09:17] <defrysk> bug
[09:17] <Desh> But startx returns with errors.
[09:17] <flo> defrysk: it workt fine , then iesterday it stoped risponding, if i do sudo kate it works just fine
[09:17] <IgKh> I tried to delete and then recreate the xorg.conf, but it didn't help
[09:17] <defrysk> flo, ati drivers ?
[09:17] <flo> defrysk: yes
[09:17] <IgKh> It started happaning after a failing installation of nvidia drivers
[09:18] <defrysk> I read that dapper has ati issues so could be the reason
[09:18] <Desh> Argh!!!
[09:18] <defrysk> IgKh, what nvidia card do you have ?
[09:18] <flo> i'll try use krusader..i'm doing the install then i'll give you notice
[09:18] <IgKh> Geforce3 Ti200. MSI make
[09:19] <Desh> Ok, anyone have any ideas why my Dapper CD won't boot the Xserver?
[09:19] <defrysk> IgKh, that requires nvidia-glx-legacy if I am correct
[09:19] <defrysk> Desh, laptop ati ?
[09:19] <Desh> Yes.
[09:19] <defrysk> bug
[09:20] <Desh> o_O bug?
[09:20] <Desh> As in, won't work?
[09:20] <defrysk> yes its filed somwhere in launchpad go search and confirm it
[09:20] <brandon_> Riddell, what did you think about my problem?
[09:20] <defrysk> Desh, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/31009 check if it compares
[09:22] <magicbronson> i just installed kubuntu and i want to install eclipse with sun java 1.5. can anyone send me a link to a tutorial?
[09:22] <defrysk> magicbronson, for java install ?
[09:22] <__osh___> What's a good (simple) blog program? Drupal? Wordpress? Something else? Preferably something using apache2 and mysql5 since I already have those on my system...
[09:22] <magicbronson> sun java + eclipse
[09:22] <farous> magicbronson: sun java and eclipse are in the repos
[09:22] <defrysk> !java
[09:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:22] <defrysk> !eclipse
[09:22] <magicbronson> which repos?
[09:22] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[09:22] <magicbronson> i'm in adept right now
[09:23] <__osh___> !tell magicbronson about easyubuntu
[09:23] <defrysk> magicbronson, check the links and read
[09:23] <magicbronson> is easyubuntu meant for kubuntu?
[09:23] <farous> magicbronson: in universe
[09:23] <kbrooks_> magicbronson: yes
[09:23] <__osh___> magicbronson: it works in kubuntu yes.
[09:23] <defrysk> magicbronson, try to work without easyubuntu
[09:23] <kbrooks_> defrysk: dont say that
[09:24] <defrysk> why not ?
[09:24] <kbrooks_> defrysk: users are lazy
[09:24] <magicbronson> defrysk: i'm inclined not to. i tried it a little while ago on an ubuntu machine and it seemed a little rough around the edges
[09:24] <defrysk> kbrooks_, so help them being lazy ?
[09:24] <kbrooks_> defrysk: they want point and click
[09:24] <magicbronson> not i, kbrooks_
[09:24] <magicbronson> defrysk: so what do you recommend?
[09:24] <defrysk> kbrooks_, define they
[09:24] <defrysk> magicbronson, for what ?
[09:25] <flo> URL maldefinito file:///
[09:25] <kbrooks_> magicbronson: easyubuntu
[09:25] <magicbronson> cleanest installation of eclipse and sun java 1.5 on kubuntu
[09:25] <__osh___> Users (like myself) have better things to do than to fix things that should already be fixed. Easyubuntu is such a fix. I have no problem with it.
[09:25] <farous> sunjava in non-free section
[09:25] <flo> defrysk: after installing krusader sudo konqueror all of the sudden works and krusader gives me url maldefinito file:///
[09:25] <magicbronson> so i have to add the non-free repo to adept?
[09:25] <defrysk> magicbronson, read the wiki
[09:25] <flo> it becomes odder and odder
[09:25] <defrysk> and be patient
[09:26] <robin> !xgl
[09:26] <magicbronson> ok
[09:26] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[09:26] <farous> !tell magicbronson about easysource
[09:26] <kbrooks_> magicbronson: easyubuntu does that for you
[09:26] <defrysk> kbrooks_, easyubuntu is a brainkiller
[09:26] <magicbronson> one more question: how do i install vim7? it's not in the repo yet
[09:26] <farous> magicbronson: look at this site to have most of the repos you will need
[09:26] <magicbronson> should i just wait?
[09:26] <defrysk> magicbronson, get multiverse and universe in the repos
[09:27] <defrysk> vim is available
[09:27] <magicbronson> not 7.0 though
[09:27] <magicbronson> it just came out a couple weeks ago
[09:27] <__osh___> magicbronson: then you probably have to build it yourself.
[09:27] <defrysk> magicbronson, patience and open backports in the repos
[09:27] <defrysk> magicbronson, or build it yes :)
[09:27] <__osh___> magicbronson: most often just ./configgure; make; make install
[09:28] <magicbronson> i know the drill
[09:28] <magicbronson> there seems to be no gvim or kvim in the default repos
[09:28] <ayabara> hi guys. on my way towards my first kubuntu install. should I dl the dvd or the cd image?
[09:28] <defrysk> ayabara, got hight high speed ?
[09:29] <farous> magicbronson: by the way i just downloaded eclipse from their site and just ran it and it works. Java is installed by default not sun-java though
[09:29] <ayabara> defrysk: yep
[09:29] <__osh___> ayabara: doesn't matter I think. I got the CD and it works just fine. =)
[09:29] <defrysk> ayabara, got plenty dvd ?
[09:29] <magicbronson> farous: by "their" you mean whose?
[09:29] <defrysk> anyway get the cd i'd say
[09:29] <farous> ayabara: you can download the cd and if you need extra packages you can always install over the net using adept
[09:29] <ayabara> defrysk: yep. guess what I really wondered was what the difference between cd and dvd
[09:30] <ayabara> ahh
[09:30] <ayabara> ok
[09:30] <farous> magicbronson: eclipse website
[09:30] <magicbronson> oh ok, thanks
[09:30] <farous> :)
[09:31] <Desh> Ok, I do not understand why my Dapper CD, downlaoded today, will not boot on my laptop.
[09:31] <Desh> X does not want to load.
[09:31] <defrysk> Desh, its abug
[09:31] <defrysk> bug bug bug
[09:31] <ayabara> defrysk, __osh__, farous: thanks
[09:31] <Desh> I reconfigure the xserver to use the ati driver that worked in breezy and still startx returns with errors.
[09:32] <defrysk> Desh, use the vesa driver as workaround
[09:32] <Desh> Then, shuld I install it with the install only CD?
[09:32] <Desh> It won't work either.
[09:32] <element4> Does your Katapult work!?
[09:32] <defrysk> I have no laptop so I cannot tell you how to install it unfortunately
[09:32] <jpatrick> element4: yes
[09:32] <element4> Mine only work on livecd
[09:32] <element4> Thats wierd
[09:33] <Desh> I see, well where can I find the install only CD?
[09:34] <defrysk> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[09:34] <defrysk> Desh, get the Alternate install CD
[09:34] <element4> Desh: the alternativ cd!
[09:34] <defrysk> thats the one you need
[09:34] <Desh> Thanks. I have Dapper installed but it was an update from Breezy and it's a mess. Would I need to reformat or anything first or will the CD do it?
[09:34] <defrysk> Desh, do a fresh install
[09:34] <defrysk> and all will be well
[09:35] <defrysk> (I hope)
[09:35] <element4> Desh: the cd wil format your hd
[09:35] <Desh> Ok, thanks.
[09:35] <defrysk> Desh, get the kubuntu alternative one
[09:36] <defrysk> there is a link to kubuntu in the alternative section
[09:36] <slow-motion> re
[09:36] <redsteakraw> is anyone having problems with akregator in dapper?
[09:36] <Desh> Yeah, I found it, thanks.
[09:36] <defrysk> Desh, good luck :)
[09:36] <defrysk> and use vesa
[09:36] <__osh___> Desh: I got into the same mess. Sometime soon I'll reinstall the lot. :-(
[09:37] <Desh> Yeah, breezy update was a mess for me.
[09:37] <Desh> ndiswrapper got f'ed in the a, so did my sound, openoffice was uninstalled...
[09:38] <ryanakca_> can you install "server" from the kubuntu desktop/live cd?
[09:38] <Desh> Me?
[09:38] <__osh___> ryanakca_: don't think so.
[09:38] <element4> ARRGH!  My katapult wont work! My computer is nothing worth now! Argh!
[09:39] <Desh> WHat is katapault?
[09:39] <Desh> *katapult
[09:39] <element4> ryanakca: I dont think you can!
[09:39] <__osh___> element4: just upgraded to dapper? that one happened to me during upgrade.
[09:39] <jpatrick> !katapult
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[09:39] <ryanakca> there we go, that's better...
[09:39] <Desh> Hmm...
[09:40] <element4> Desh: its a program in kubuntu... it start programs fast...
[09:40] <ryanakca> element4: what about from the ubuntu desktop cd?
[09:40] <flo> is it normal that y not getting any updates for the last 4 to 5 days?excuse me for my english
[09:40] <__osh___> Flo: yes
[09:40] <defrysk> yes
[09:40] <element4> _osh_: I have installed a fresh kubuntu!
[09:40] <ayabara> forgot to ask.. the difference between cd and dvd is that the dvd contains more packages?
[09:41] <element4> The katapult works on the liveCd but not on the installed kubuntu
[09:41] <defrysk> ayabara, and the sourcepackages
[09:41] <element4> and ive tried to reinstall katapult, but noooo...
[09:41] <__osh___> element4: report it as a bug.
[09:42] <ayabara> defrysk: I'm too noob to know what that means :-/
[09:42] <defrysk> ayabara, just get the cd
[09:42] <defrysk> and forget dvd
[09:42] <ayabara> defrysk: hehe. will do
[09:42] <ayabara> keep it simple :-)
[09:42] <defrysk> ayabara, one step at the time
[09:43] <defrysk> ayabara, you'l be running gentoo in no time ;p
[09:43] <ayabara> have tried ubuntu a couple of times, but I keep installing kde apps, so I thought it was about time I gave kubuntu a try
[09:43] <ayabara> :-)
[09:43] <defrysk> ayabara, kde is nice as it gnome
[09:44] <defrysk> is*
[09:44] <farous> ayabara: do you have ubuntu installed
[09:44] <farous> if so you do not need the cd
[09:44] <ayabara> farous: nope. xp only now
[09:44] <farous> ok
[09:44] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <ayabara> had ubuntu flight 7
[09:44] <element4> _osh_: How can i report it as a bug?
[09:45] <defrysk> element4, https://launchpad.net/
[09:45] <pekuja> how good is the laptop support in Kubuntu?
[09:45] <defrysk> pekuja, same as in ubuntu
[09:45] <pekuja> ok
[09:46] <element4> defrysk: thx dude ;)
[09:46] <pekuja> I'm wondering, because I had a breezy installation that had Gnome in it, then I installed KDE, and upgraded to dapper, and power management didn't really work
[09:46] <defrysk> element4, https://launchpad.net/people/johan-devries ;p
[09:47] <pekuja> I don't remember exactly when the power management broke, but in the end I had a Kubuntu installation that I had upgraded from breezy, and the power management was broken.
[09:47] <pekuja> Now I have Gnomebuntu installed from the final dapper CD.
[09:48] <rabby> zer gut (c)
[09:48] <element4> defrysk: Is that you? The picture?
[09:48] <defrysk> pekuja, you can always revert back to <yourpreferred de>
[09:48] <defrysk> element4, yes
[09:48] <element4> Nice hair ;)
[09:48] <defrysk> lol
[09:48] <rabby> system of install very good, but portage in gentoo >
[09:49] <pekuja> defrysk, yeah, sure, but I'm a bit wary because I previously had trouble switching to KDE. I'm actually planning on just installing from scratch from a Kubuntu CD
[09:49] <rabby> fast install its very good too
[09:49] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:49] <defrysk> pekuja, just give it a go
[09:50] <pekuja> yeah, I think I'll apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and see what happens, but I actually like to reinstall my system because that way I get rid of all packages I don't need and all the old configuration files and whatnot.
[09:52] <defrysk> pekuja, should work fine :)
[09:52] <pekuja> yeah, well installing kubuntu-desktop is easy, but removing ubuntu-desktop along with its dependencies is a bit trickier
[09:52] <pekuja> debfoster is my friend
[09:53] <slow-motion> re
[09:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  if i tell you that in konqueror as soon as i press Ctrl, alt, or shift, the cursor in the address bar moves from whatever position to the end.... somebody can tell me something?
[09:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can try this?
[09:55] <defrysk> Tallia1Kubuntu, nope not here
[09:55] <mhterres> hello !!!!
[09:55] <mhterres> what's up ???
[09:56] <jpatrick> Not alot
[09:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> defrysk: and where?
[09:58] <farous_> winXperts: install build-essential package
[09:59] <farous_> wrong room appol
[10:00] <defrysk> farous, ;p
[10:00] <farous_> defrysk: this dam network bugs that i have had to switch from wirless to wired :) so still disoriented
[10:01] <defrysk> poor you hehe
[10:01] <farous_> :)
[10:01] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:01] <ealm> how do I play real videos from the internet properly?
[10:02] <rabby> when i install packages with apt-get, what is location save download packages?
[10:02] <ealm> I installed realplayer 10 but it doesn't work well at all... video only occasionally, and sound out of sync
[10:02] <jpatrick> !restricted
[10:02] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:03] <rabby> when i install packages with apt-get, what is location save download packages???
[10:03] <farous_> ealm: cpy the nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt from where ever you had downloaded real to .mozilla/plugins dir and it will work
[10:03] <farous_> rabyy /var/cache/apt/
[10:04] <rabby> thank!
[10:04] <farous_> uw:)
[10:06] <slow-motion> re
[10:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  if i tell you that in konqueror as soon as i press Ctrl, alt, or shift, the cursor in the address bar moves from whatever position to the end.... somebody can tell me something?
[10:10] <davebgimp> Hi, when ripping cds with Dapper, I can only do this running as root. Is there a way to adjust the permissions, so that my normal user account can do this?
[10:11] <mhterres> davebgimp: You need to put the user in cdrom group
[10:12] <davebgimp> mhterres: How would I do this?
[10:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can try what i have just said?
[10:12] <mhterres> edit the /etc/group file
[10:12] <mhterres> put the user in the group
[10:12] <defrysk> or sudo kuser
[10:12] <defrysk> if you need grafics
[10:12] <sokuban> What do you do to view 'avi' files? I installed 'VLC' but the Linux version is far inferior to the windows, the video lags too much to be watchable.
[10:12] <mhterres> our use usermod
[10:13] <defrysk> sokuban, no lagging here
[10:13] <mhterres> sokuban: maybe your graphics driver
[10:13] <robin> ok which tutorial do I need for nvidia + kde + kubunt + xgl
[10:13] <mhterres> I hda this problem before with my nvidia, but when start to use the latest nvidia drivers, it was solved
[10:13] <godzero> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm not sure if it's related.. but I have had konqueror go a bit insane with focus. Sometimes I had to restart X to regain control.
[10:13] <robin> I can't get it to work :(
[10:13] <sokuban> >_>, I'll admit my computer is old, but the windows version works fine for me and I can use Kaffine to view the experiance ubuntu thing in examples but not vlc
[10:14] <mhterres> robin: xgl is very unstable
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> godzero: this behaviour is permanent..
[10:14] <CGA> hi folks
[10:14] <mindbob> How do I set my default browser in Kubuntu - dapper?
[10:14] <mindbob> I want it to be firefox, and not konqueuor.
[10:14] <sokuban> any way to view avi's with kaffine?
[10:14] <mhterres> sokuban: what video card did you have ?
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> godzero: can you try to do what i declared?
[10:14] <CGA> is there an italian channel for kubuntu??
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mindbob: kcontrol
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CGA: cia
[10:14] <sokuban> a really old nvidia riva tnt2 or something
[10:14] <robin> mhterres: I know, but I want to try
[10:14] <CGA> Tallia1Kubuntu, ciao
[10:14] <stipe> hi cga
[10:14] <defrysk> sokuban, nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:14] <CGA> ciao stipe
[10:14] <godzero> I trued, but I'm not seing the same behavior
[10:15] <mhterres> sokuban: tnt you need to use the nvidia-glx-legacy package
[10:15] <godzero> tried
[10:15] <sokuban> what is that?
[10:15] <davebgimp> mhterres: Okay, see in the file that my user name is in the cdrom group already, but i stil require running as root to get the device to rip
[10:15] <mhterres> robin: take a look in ubuntu forums
[10:15] <defrysk> drivers for nvidia
[10:15] <mhterres> hmmm
[10:15] <mhterres> let me see
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> godzero: and what behaviour do you see?
[10:15] <defrysk> to get direct rendering
[10:15] <sokuban> oh, I need seperate drivers for Linux?
[10:15] <mhterres> davebgimp:  what error ?
[10:15] <defrysk> sokuban, for nvidia
[10:15] <mhterres> sokuban: apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:15] <robin> mhterres: I have done, but there are way to many tutorials on it
[10:15] <sokuban> thanks
[10:16] <robin> mhterres: I have tried the kororaa live cd and xgl really rocks :)
[10:16] <defrysk> sokuban, after install do : sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:16] <mhterres> robin: I know. I don't know a "complete tutorial". There's a lots of manners to do it. If you read them you'll find the better way
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robin: kororaa??
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> godzero: and what behaviour do you see?
[10:16] <sokuban> what is that for?
[10:16] <godzero> Tallia1Kubuntu: cursor stays in place
[10:16] <mhterres> sokuban: is the nvidia driver for tnt
[10:16] <sokuban> no, the nvidia-xconfig
[10:17] <davebgimp> mhterres: No error message, drive just initially reads but will not actually rip
[10:17] <mhterres> sokuban: to configure your xorg.conf
[10:17] <bernier> hi, i tried to install visual boy advance but because it's my first day on linux, i had a hard time. i realized i could install it with Adept but the vba status was "broken" nopw when i open adpet the status in uninstalled and when i want to install it i click on install and it simply stays at the "unsintalled" status
[10:17] <defrysk> sokuban, sudo nvidia-xconfig sets up your xorg.conf
[10:17] <sokuban> I got a command not found
[10:17] <sokuban> I installed successfully though
[10:17] <robin> Tallia1Kubuntu:  yes
[10:17] <defrysk> sokuban, in dapper ?
[10:17] <mhterres> davebgimp: maybe it's trying to rip in a directory where your user don't have rights. Looks like a permissions problem
[10:17] <sokuban> yes
[10:17] <robin> Tallia1Kubuntu:  what's wrong with it ;) ?
[10:18] <godzero> Tallia1Kubuntu: How long has the odd behavior been going on?
[10:18] <mhterres> sokuban: for nvidia-glx-legacy I guess there's no nvidia-xconfig
[10:18] <defrysk> sokuban, use sudo
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> since when i had kubuntu
[10:18] <mhterres> You'll need to set the xorg.conf manually
[10:18] <sokuban> and?
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it was the reason in never used konqueror for web
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robin: what's that?
[10:19] <sokuban> ok, how do I set it manually?
[10:19] <mhterres> sokuban: you need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:19] <defrysk> sokuban, sudo dpkg xserver-xorg, run the defaults exept for the nv driver wich has to be set to nvidia
[10:20] <mhterres> sokuban: yes, it's a good pratice
[10:20] <defrysk> sokuban, or what mhterres said
[10:20] <davebgimp> mhterres: I double checked and made sure the write directory was in my home folder, but no go.
[10:20] <mhterres> defrysk: your solution is better
[10:20] <bernier> hi, i tried to install visual boy advance but because it's my first day on linux, i had a hard time. i realized i could install it with Adept but the vba status was "broken" nopw when i open adpet the status in uninstalled and when i want to install it i click on install and it simply stays at the "unsintalled" status. anyone know how I could remove those half installed files or I dunno what and install it back?
[10:20] <defrysk> mhterres, more official :D
[10:20] <mhterres> defrysk: yes :-)
[10:20] <sokuban> what do I do after I sudo dpkg xserver-xorg? I'm confused
[10:21] <defrysk> sokuban, hit enter
[10:21] <mhterres> davebgimp: strange
[10:21] <robin> Tallia1Kubuntu: live cd based on gentoo to try out xgl
[10:21] <robin> Tallia1Kubuntu: works great :)
[10:21] <mhterres> davebgimp: your user is the first user ?
[10:21] <defrysk> sokuban, untill you see something about a driver nv , change that to nvidia
[10:21] <marlin> Can anyone help me with the kaffeine-Mozilla plug-in?
[10:21] <davebgimp> yes, and the only user
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robin: cool.. i want to try xgl
[10:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[10:21] <bernier> fick it ima format
[10:21] <defrysk> and then continue with enter untill done
[10:21] <bernier> lol
[10:22] <mhterres> davebgimp: very strange
[10:22] <mhterres> davebgimp: shoul work
[10:22] <sokuban> umm nothing happened when I typed it in a couple of lines popped up then went back to sokuban@sokuban-desktop:`$
[10:22] <mhterres> davebgimp: did you look for the directory permissions ?
[10:23] <davebgimp> mhterres: which directory? My final destination directory is my homes folder
[10:23] <davebgimp> ahhhh I got it
[10:23] <davebgimp> mhterres:
[10:23] <davebgimp> mhterres: it's the temp folder
[10:23] <sokuban> the first thing that came up was dpkg: need an action option
[10:23] <marlin> Can anyone help me with the kaffeine-Mozilla plug-in?
[10:24] <defrysk> sokuban, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <davebgimp> mhterres: I set the temp folder to one I created in my home and it worked. The default tmp is root only
[10:24] <mhterres> one moment
[10:24] <defrysk> sokuban, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:24] <davebgimp> mhterres: thanks for your help
[10:24] <defrysk> without hte "
[10:24] <mhterres> davebgimp: I see :-)
[10:24] <defrysk> the"
[10:25] <sokuban> attempt to autodetect video hardware?
[10:25] <defrysk> yes
[10:25] <sokuban> now hit enter a when 'nv' is highlighted?
[10:25] <marlin> Thanks for the help. Bye
[10:25] <defrysk> and if it says nv change it to nvidia
[10:25] <sokuban> oh, right under it
[10:26] <sokuban> enter identifier for your video card, ok?
[10:26] <defrysk> sokuban, further the defaults are fine so just hit <enter> untill its completely finished
[10:27] <defrysk> just the nvidia thing , nothing more
[10:27] <defrysk> the rest is enter
[10:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> muahahahah, i just COMPLETELY removed konqueror
[10:27] <sokuban> the amount of memory has no default >_>
[10:27] <mhterres> DaSkreech: strange, the /tmp should have 777 permission
[10:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe reinstalling with the refreshed settings......
[10:27] <defrysk> sokuban, enter
[10:27] <mhterres> oops
[10:27] <sokuban> oops sorry
[10:27] <defrysk> dont read just hit enter
[10:27] <sokuban> didn't read
[10:27] <mhterres> davebgimp was gone :-)
[10:28] <sokuban> ok, finally done
[10:29] <mhterres> great !!!
[10:29] <sokuban> now its all set up?
[10:29] <mhterres> yep
[10:29] <sokuban> let me test it
[10:29] <mhterres> restart your X and try again
[10:29] <defrysk> sokuban, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep nvidia
[10:29] <defrysk> see if you see sriver "nvidia"
[10:29] <defrysk> driver*
[10:29] <sokuban> its working
[10:30] <sokuban> so I don't know why I need to do any more >_>
[10:30] <defrysk> now restart x
[10:30] <mhterres> sokuban: did you restart X ?
[10:30] <sokuban> no
[10:30] <defrysk> sokuban, do so ;)
[10:30] <mhterres> sokuban: you need to restart to apply the changes
[10:30] <sokuban> how?
[10:30] <sokuban> but its working O_O
[10:30] <mhterres> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE ???
[10:30] <sokuban> as in restart the computer?
[10:31] <defrysk> no as in ctrl alt backspace you newb
[10:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sokuban: X and base-system are separated in linux
[10:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the "black beast terminal" call the "graphic paradise" as a program
[10:32] <sokuban> ah, there I restarted by hitting ctr, alt, backspace
[10:32] <defrysk> sokuba now do in a terminal  glxinfo |grep direct
[10:32] <mhterres> try now
[10:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when you press ctrl alt backspace you restart only the graphic server, not the system
[10:32] <sokuban> I see
[10:32] <defrysk> sokuba now do in a terminal  glxinfo |grep direct
[10:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> fglrxinfo
[10:33] <defrysk> you get a yes ????
[10:33] <sokuban> yes
[10:33] <sokuban> 'direct rendering:yes'
[10:33] <defrysk> you have sucsessfully setup your speedyer nvidia driver
[10:33] <Cooner750> Need help
[10:33] <sokuban> thanks
[10:33] <defrysk> sokuban, now try some avipr0n
[10:34] <Cooner750> I installed KDE packages in ubuntu, so it's pretty much the same as Kubuntu ;). My problem is, how can I have more than one user logged in at once? It's still using Gnome login manager I guess  and needs to be using KDM
[10:35] <Cooner750> Is it possible to uninstall the Gnome packages? Including Gnome login manager? I probably wont be using it again
[10:35] <defrysk> Cooner750, yes
[10:35] <Cooner750> How do I do that? And set it to use KDM as login manager?
[10:35] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install kdm
[10:36] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove gdm
[10:36] <defrysk> thats all
[10:36] <mhterres> it's not necessary to remove gdm
[10:36] <defrysk> mhterres, true
[10:36] <iNiku> Cooner750: you don't *need* to use kdm
[10:36] <mhterres> you just need to set the kdm like the default
[10:36] <defrysk> but he wants to get rid of gdm
[10:36] <iNiku> Cooner750: it's fine to use either one
[10:36] <Cooner750> At the moment it's fine, as log as I can set it to use KDM instead
[10:36] <mhterres> hmmm, so apt-get remove --purge gdm :-)
[10:36] <iNiku> defrysk: yes, but that won't help him to get more than one user logged in
[10:37] <defrysk> iNiku, true true
[10:37] <iNiku> Cooner750: the number of user logins does not depend on the display manager used
[10:37] <Cooner750> Then how do I switch users in KDE?
[10:37] <defrysk> kdm does work better with kde tho as does gdm with gnome
[10:37] <Cooner750> Is there a setting to tell it which login manager to use?
[10:37] <iNiku> Cooner750: how about "Switch user" in the KDE menu?
[10:37] <defrysk> Cooner750, yes
[10:38] <Cooner750> Switch User is not there...
[10:38] <Cooner750> Just Log Out and Lock Session
[10:38] <iNiku> Cooner750: hmm... it is for me
[10:38] <defrysk> Cooner750, got the complete kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[10:38] <mhterres> Cooner750: what kde version are you using ?
[10:38] <linuxbambi> nein es lag daran, dass es unter linux scheinbar nicht mglich ist, ein swf file geffnet zu haben und nebenbei mp3s zu hren ;S
[10:38] <iNiku> defrysk: I guess, and at least you get a more unified look that way
[10:39] <Cooner750> Got it
[10:39] <Cooner750> I'm using the latest version I believe. Anyway, you have to sudo gedit (or kate, whichever) /etc/X11/default-display-manager and change it to /usr/bin/kdm. Let's see if it works
[10:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> NAAAAAAA...... i delete everythign about konqueror and i still have the same problem
[10:41] <sokuban> Umm, how do you mount a windows partition? I currently have Linux on my slave drive which is really tiny, I can see the windows drive on Linux but it won't let me mount it (it is FAT32)
[10:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrrrr
[10:41] <iNiku> sokuban: hmm, how do you see it on linux?
[10:41] <ealm> I cant install k3b, and when running "cdrecord -scanbus" my writer isn't listed
[10:41] <iNiku> sokuban: and how are you trying to mount it and how does that fail?
[10:42] <Cooner750> no luck
[10:42] <iNiku> Cooner750: you need to stop gdm and start kdm
[10:42] <iNiku> Cooner750: the display manager starts at boot time
[10:42] <sokuban> I see it in storage media, I right click and hit mount it gives me 'mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mstab
[10:42] <iNiku> Cooner750: the default-display-manager file just tells the boot scripts which one to start
[10:43] <Cooner750> How do I do that.... terminal? killall gdm, or?
[10:43] <Cooner750> or just restart..
[10:43] <iNiku> Cooner750: so, go to a VT (ctrl-alt-f1), then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:43] <defrysk> iNiku, very gentle way
[10:43] <jaims> hello!
[10:43] <luh> after upgrading on dapper - there are users that get the message "no window manager found" - and at others kde works just fine
[10:44] <luh> anyone who has an idea on that?
[10:44] <jaims> does someone been able to upgrade firefox <IP_ADDRESS>-><IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:44] <iNiku> defrysk: only way I know :)
[10:44] <iNiku> apart from rebooting, of course
[10:44] <defrysk> iNiku, its the correct way :)
[10:45] <iNiku> defrysk, I know :)
[10:45] <defrysk> jaims, if upgrade is needed it wil appear in the repos
[10:45] <jaims> really?
[10:45] <defrysk> honestly
[10:45] <jaims> I prefer the repositories, if I could choose
[10:45] <luh> please help me - i have no clue what i have to do
[10:45] <jaims> but I've read about the autoupdate thing
[10:46] <l_r> hello. i have a matrox g400, supported well by the kernel, but direct rendering is not working. the drm module is loaded. but the glxinfo does not report any drm feature. any idea?
[10:46] <jaims> but in my firefox is disabled!
[10:46] <defrysk> jaims, its safe to use the one available in dapper now , trust me
[10:46] <sokuban> Anybody know how to mount it?
[10:46] <jaims> even starting the browser as root
[10:46] <jaims> ok, defrysk; i will
[10:46] <defrysk> jaims, you have been "tinkering' ?
[10:46] <jaims> what is tinkering?
[10:47] <defrysk> why did firefox stop working ?
[10:47] <dein> what's a good way to restart artsd?
[10:47] <jaims> oh, no firefox works great
[10:47] <jaims> it's just because the security holes and all
 but in my firefox is disabled!
[10:47] <jaims> ah
[10:47] <jaims> i meant menu/help/seek updates
[10:47] <iNiku> anybody know how often adept_notifier is supposed to check for new updates?
[10:47] <l_r> any idea about my problem?
[10:48] <jaims> know i mean?
[10:48] <sokuban> does anybody know how to mount windows partitions >_>
[10:48] <jaims> but the browser works fine
[10:48] <defrysk> jaims, as soon updates are needed for security reasons they wil appear in the repos
[10:48] <jaims> aha
[10:49] <defrysk> firefox wil be patched then but wil keep the same versioning
[10:49] <defrysk> as an example
[10:49] <iNiku> jaims: even if the version number in the repos looks "old", the security fixes will be backported to it
[10:49] <iNiku> which is what defrysk said in other words :)
[10:49] <jaims> ok, i will wait for the adept_updater
[10:49] <defrysk> yes :)
[10:49] <jaims> aha
[10:49] <jaims> so
[10:49] <jaims> thank you very much, defrysk
[10:49] <defrysk> jaims, your safe
[10:49] <jaims> :-)
[10:49] <iNiku> but, speaking of that, does anyone know how often it checks for new updates?
[10:50] <jaims> I feel safe and happy with my brand new dapper
[10:50] <jaims> :-)
[10:50] <iNiku> because mine doesn't seem to do it
[10:50] <jaims> very like it
[10:50] <iNiku> when I do an apt-get update, the system tray icon appears
[10:50] <Cooner750> I really screwed it up now
[10:50] <iNiku> but it doesn't seem to notice them by itself
[10:50] <iNiku> Cooner750: how?
[10:50] <sokuban> iNiku: Did you figure it out?
[10:50] <defrysk> when you start kde you get a green button meaning no updates it appears for about 5 seconds
[10:51] <defrysk> then its gone again
[10:51] <iNiku> sokuban: sorry, what?
[10:51] <defrysk> its next to the clock
[10:51] <sokuban> iNiku: how to mount the windows drive
[10:51] <iNiku> defrysk: yeah, but it should check periodically even if you don't reboot/re-login... right?
[10:51] <Cooner750> Now when it boots up it stays at a black console screen. I have to login and run startx and it starts up Gnome
[10:51] <defrysk> iNiku, it does that once a day , @ 7 in the morning
[10:51] <iNiku> I never do if I can avoid it and it seems I don't get notified of new updates unless I run apt-get update manually
[10:52] <iNiku> defrysk: oh... via cron?
[10:52] <iNiku> not anacron?
[10:52] <defrysk> iNiku, not sure who/what does it but "it" "doets" it
[10:52] <defrysk> does
[10:52] <iNiku> defrysk: that would explain it... my laptop is always asleep at 7am, like me
[10:53] <iNiku> so... the check basically never runs if that's true
[10:53] <Cooner750> any ideas?
[10:53] <iNiku> that kind of sucks
[10:53] <defrysk> iNiku, its checks as soon as it on
[10:53] <defrysk> during boot or whatever after 7
[10:53] <Cooner750> When I did CTRL ALT F1 it dropped to a console which I did not expect, and I did not know the commands so I had to use the halt command to turn it off
[10:54] <defrysk> Cooner750, ctrl alt f7 brings you back
[10:54] <iNiku> sokuban: sorry, missed your reply to my question. dunno about the GUI way, I just put it in /etc/fstab
[10:54] <iNiku> defrysk: it doesn't seem to
[10:54] <Cooner750> I changed /usr/bin/gdm to /usr/bin/kdm and it does that at boot
[10:54] <sokuban> umm how?
[10:55] <iNiku> defrysk: I haven't seen any updates in several days, until I just did an apt-get update a minute ago and now it shows 10 updates available
[10:55] <robin> ok got xgl running
[10:55] <robin> nice :)
[10:55] <defrysk> iNiku, well it does here
[10:55] <defrysk> so...
[10:55] <defrysk> anyway
[10:55] <defrysk> nm
[10:55] <defrysk> robin got dizzy
[10:55] <Cooner750> Should I just wipe this partition and install Kubuntu?
[10:56] <iNiku> Cooner750: um... you were supposed to stop gdm and start kdm in the console
[10:56] <mluser-laptop> Can someon here give me a tip on how to go about installing mplayer without having to compile it?
[10:56] <jaims> yes!
[10:56] <defrysk> !mplayer
[10:56] <iNiku> Cooner750: using sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start, like I told you
[10:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:56] <jaims> I have installed today
[10:56] <mluser-laptop> thanks :)
[10:56] <iNiku> Cooner750: but if you did a reboot, you should have kdm running anyway. do you have it installed?
[10:56] <jaims> yes thats the site ive been reading
[10:57] <defrysk> typing kdm is not installing kdm lol
[10:57] <iNiku> sokuban: edit /etc/fstab and put something like this in there:
[10:57] <iNiku> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:57] <iNiku> sokuban: adjusting for your device, mountpoint and filesystem type...
[10:58] <iNiku> sokuban: vfat instead of ntfs
[10:58] <sokuban> I dunno what a mountpoing or device is
[10:58] <iNiku> Cooner750: dpkg -s kdm
[10:58] <iNiku> sokuban: device is the hard disk partition you're trying to mount
[10:58] <iNiku> sokuban: mountpoint is where you want to mount it
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: actually, dpkg -s kdm | grep Status
[10:59] <defrysk>  /MEDIA/HDA1 = EXAMPLE MOUNTPOINT
[10:59] <defrysk> oops caps
[10:59] <Cooner750> not installed. sudo apt-get install kdm?
[10:59] <defrysk> yes
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: yep
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: but
[10:59] <Shaezsche> kronoz i need your help
[10:59] <kronoz> !nvidia
[10:59] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: you should have it already if you indeed installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <kronoz> Shaezsche: whats wrong?
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: so I have a feeling you probably didn't
[10:59] <defrysk> iNiku, nope
[10:59] <iNiku> Cooner750: which means you might be missing other KDE stuff as well
[10:59] <Shaezsche> kronoz i forgot what you said last time, where can i find my x11 directory
[10:59] <defrysk> kdm does not do kdm I believe
[11:00] <Shaezsche> i know how to replace the file, just cannot find the dir
[11:00] <iNiku> defrysk: huh? :)
[11:00] <kronoz> Shaezsche: /etc/X11/
[11:00] <defrysk> kubuntu-desktop I mean
[11:00] <Shaezsche> its not there! now what
[11:00] <Shaezsche> i looked in etc
[11:00] <sokuban> ahh, access denied, could not write, I think I need Kwrite
[11:00] <defrysk> sokuban, you need sudo
[11:00] <iNiku> sokuban: use kdesu kate
[11:00] <Shaezsche> secondly, would that file be hidden? if so, how can i display ALL files in a directory?
[11:00] <Cooner750> installing kubuntu-desktop now
[11:01] <sokuban> eh? what is that? I used the normal kate for it
[11:01] <defrysk> Cooner750, did you install kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:01] <Cooner750> It's working on it now
[11:01] <defrysk> Cooner750, you told me you did
[11:01] <kronoz> Shaezsche: theres no X11 dir in /etc ?
[11:01] <defrysk> tsss
[11:01] <iNiku> defrysk: kubuntu-desktop does depend on kdm
[11:01] <Cooner750> I installed KDM, and installing kubuntu-desktop now. I didnt realize this computer didnt have kubuntu-desktop installed, I was thinking of my other machine
[11:01] <iNiku> defrysk: which means kdm should get installed if you install kubuntu-desktop
[11:01] <defrysk> iNiku, yes
[11:01] <defrysk> sorry
[11:02] <Cooner750> It's downloading packages now
[11:02] <defrysk> did not klick ricght in my pea brain
[11:02] <Shaezsche> kronoz nope, is it hidden?
[11:02] <iNiku> sokuban: you need root privileges for editing it
[11:02] <iNiku> sokuban: hence kdesu kate
[11:02] <kronoz> Shaezsche: it should be there :s
[11:02] <iNiku> sokuban: kdesu is like sudo for KDE
[11:02] <sokuban> I have root privileges, I think, this is my only account
[11:02] <Shaezsche> kronoz, i swear its not
[11:02] <iNiku> sokuban: no you don't
[11:02] <Shaezsche> ill check again
[11:02] <Shaezsche> brb
[11:02] <Cooner750> So when this is done, just leave what I changed to /usr/bin/kdm?
[11:02] <iNiku> sokuban: you get root privilege with sudo or kdesu