[14:30] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes i m in my directory
[14:30] <|Merlin|> lol...I know that feeling
[14:30] <blackshirt> crancko, you make a misunderstanding
[14:30] <N03L> Any Unix language experts?
[14:30] <rsser> where can I find support for 8189 realtek semiconductore corp. RTL8187B wireless 802.11g 54mbps network adapter?
[14:30] <crancko> blackshirt, ok what did I get wrong?
[14:31] <blackshirt> n03l, what you need?
[14:31] <rsser> the id is 0bda:8189
[14:31] <blackshirt> Crancko, let's me explain
[14:31] <crancko> yes pls
[14:31] <jrib> prashant_123456: alright, well the basic syntax for rename is « rename -n 's/foo/bar/' file1 file2 ... » where "foo" is what you want to replace and "bar" is what you want to replace it with.  Now "foo" is a regular expression which is basically like globbing in the terminal but more powerful.  One example, is you can use character classes to mean "any character of this type".  So for example, "[0-9]" means
[14:31] <jrib> and digit 0-9.  So let's try this for starters and see what the result is: rename -n 's/[0-9]/X/' *  .  It is very important that you remember the "-n" since this command doesn't do what you actually want to do (but is a good start)
[14:31] <jrib> prashant_123456: let me know when you are done with that and if you have any questions
[14:32] <prashant_123456> jrib,  wait please
[14:32] <jrib> prashant_123456: sure
[14:32] <Calinou> N03L: unix is not a programming language, you mean shell?
[14:33] <Calinou> this is not a programming channel
[14:33] <blackshirt> Crancko, for default desktop ubuntu, network was handled by network manager
[14:33] <Cong> is there no way to empty the rubbish bin on a usb storage device?
[14:33] <N03L> What are the benefits of learning Unix?
[14:34] <jrib> Cong: unmounting doesn't do it?  I vaguely remember that suggestion once
[14:34] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes now i get what is foo and what is bar
[14:34] <clamscan> hi
[14:34] <Cong> Nope, jrib.
[14:34] <prashant_123456> but now i want to know that all my files are .mp3
[14:34] <clamscan> anyone using clamav?
[14:34] <crancko> blackshirt; so How can I make needed changes?
[14:35] <fidel> !anyone > clamscan
[14:35] <blackshirt> crancko, and /etc/network/interfaces was typically for server network configuration
[14:35] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes and also i have to remove first 2 characters
[14:35] <andornaut> Im trying to position my external monitor (connected to my laptop) to the left of the laptop screen, but I can't get it to work. It works fine when positioned to the right. Here's my xorg.conf. If I switch the metamodes lines I get a cloned display instead of positioning it with the specified offset: http://pastebin.com/HLaHNUKn Any ideas?
[14:35] <clamscan> how can i get a list of infected files after i 've run "clamscan -l logfile -rvi directory/
[14:35] <clamscan> "
[14:35] <clamscan> ?
[14:35] <crancko> ok, how to get old pc on home network via network manager?
[14:36] <Cong> Aren't there any ways to empty the bin without removing the usb storage?
[14:36] <andornaut> (note if I set it with xrandr --output LDVS-0 --pos XxY it works as expected, but not if those same settings are in xorg.conf
[14:36] <fidel> clamscan: try asking in #clamav aswell ;)
[14:36] <blackshirt> Crancko, if you want to use /etc/network/interfaces files instead through network manager configuration, you should set manage= false to NetworkManager.conf
[14:37] <Doxin> I'm having some trouble receiving tv using my tuner. plugging the cable into a tv finds ~20 channels. plugging it into my pc finds 4. what gives?
[14:37] <clamscan> fidel: ok, so what? have you ever used clamav?
[14:37] <jrib> prashant_123456: cool.  So you see in its current state 's/[0-9]/X' replaces one digit with X.  We want to change that a bit.  First off we want to make sure the digit is at the beginning of the file name.  The '^' character is used to denote the beginning.  The other thing we want to do is match not just one digit, but exactly two.  We could do this by writing our expression as '^[0-9][0-9]', but there's a
[14:37] <jrib> slightly nicer way.  We can use {2} to mean do the last type of match twice.  So our final result will look like '^[0-9]{2}'.  This means match at the beginning, exactly 2 digits (0-9).  And our final command will be: « rename -n 's/^[0-9]{2}//' * ».  Give that a try
[14:37] <crancko> blackshirt I now try lilve cd first, then I will check ur tips
[14:38] <jrib> prashant_123456: check and see if that looks right
[14:38] <clamscan> very helpful -_-
[14:39] <blackshirt> crancko, but if you need your network managed by network manager, you shouldn't configure your /etc/network/interfaces, or just for lo for loopback... And you can configure your network through network manager settings
[14:39] <jrib> Cong: I don't know then :/  What happens when you try to use the GUI to empty trash?  You could always just delete the relevant directory on the usb, but again, I don't know if there is a better way
[14:39] <clamscan> found, the string is 'FOUND'. thanks anyway
[14:40] <blackshirt> crancko, that's you should understand basically
[14:41] <Cong> That's the problem. I have stuff in the system rubbish bin, and the files from the usb get mixed with the ones on the system, and emptying it will remove the others that are in the other rubbish bin aswell, jirb.
[14:42] <jrib> Cong: I see.  Well is just deleting the trash directory on the usb a possibility?
[14:42] <BlueWolf> Hi, I have a new Canon Pixma MG2140 all in one printer and when I use XSane to try scan documents it says - no devices available, I have got it to print so how can I get it to scan?
[14:43] <Cong> I tried that.   What did you delete exactly?
[14:43] <Cong> Oh, you mean delete the Trash-xxxx?
[14:43] <jrib> Cong: yep
[14:44] <Cong> No hacks please.
[14:44] <jrib> Cong: ah.  Don't know then :)
[14:44] <Cong> :(
[14:44] <jrib> Cong: you could log in as a new user and then empty the trash, though you probably consider that a hack too
[14:45] <crancko> blackshirt + Merlin thx 4 all the hlp but I could not get it 2 work, my know how is to small - liveCD let me see the files I need
[14:45] <fidel> Cong: you could (however) parse the trash-metadata in Trash/info and select based on that info - as those filescontains the original trash-item path (but that would be another scripted hack)
[14:45] <tim442> BlueWolf: not had experience with that device, but i've found on other printers, the scan button does not properly intiate a scan, but using the scanning application in ubuntu to initiate will properly start the scan
[14:45] <blackshirt> crancko, not a matter ...
[14:45] <|Merlin|> crancko, you are welcome...sorry it didn't work but glad you got what you needed
[14:45] <crancko> I use liveCD 4 now and learn later :)
[14:46] <prashant_123456> jrib, yes thanks
[14:46] <Cong> There should be a standard way to delete files from just the usb storage. For now there doesn't seem to be one.
[14:46] <crancko> Is like stopping 2 smoke, or loose weight - there is always 2 morrow
[14:46] <tim442> Cong, show hidden files, delete .Trash folder?
[14:46] <blackshirt> crancko, you were a greats people
[14:47] <gaelfx> I've got a fresh install of lubuntu 12.04 running here, and my sound doesn't work. I've installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol, and despite those going off without a hitch, still no sound, what else can I do to get sound working?
[14:47] <blackshirt> gaelfx, have you have restricted extras installed?
[14:47] <BlueWolf> tim442: I did use a scanning application called Xsane, simplescan, scanner utility and scan tailor and they all fail to pick up the scanner. I have managed to get the printer to work well now it's just the scanner?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, do aplay -l in the terminal ...need to know your card
[14:48] <tim442> BlueWolf: is it a network attached device?  or direct USB?
[14:48] <BlueWolf> tim442: Direct USB.
[14:51] <gaelfx> er, can someone remind me how to send the output of one command as the input for pastebinit?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> !pastebinit
[14:52] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: thanks
[14:52] <Cong> I've removed the usb storage. The rubbish bin file count is more than the actual files in the rubbish bin. Emptying it still show the filled icon.
[14:53] <Cong> As I recall there files aren't in that rubbish bin, they are in the usb storage.
[14:54] <tim442> BlueWolf:  it seems the german canon website lists a lot of linux related items, but the USA version has virtually nothing.  maybe some searching on the .de site will help you
[14:54] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1206950/
[14:55] <BlueWolf> tim442: I'm not familiar with the .de site, Could you possibly paste the URL? I don't have to know German to read it do I?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, looks like you hdmi output is the default..is this what you want , or dom you wnat the analog out as default ?
[14:56] <ogra_> BlueWolf, google translate ;)
[14:56] <gsteinert> BlueWolf: that's what google translate was made for =)
[14:57] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, you can make the choice in pavucontrol
[14:57] <BlueWolf> gsteinert: ogra_: Thanks, I was hoping I would not have to go to that extra effort. ;-)
[14:58] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: definitely don't want the hdmi as the default, since I rarely use it, but I don't see where in pavucontrol I can choose that?
[14:59] <N03L> Anyone know a good site/book to learn about unix?
[15:00] <Cong> N03L, what do you mean by Unix?
[15:00] <ThinkT510> N03L: unix is a very broad term
[15:00] <BluesKaj> gae it should show in the port drop down in output devices
[15:00] <BluesKaj> gaelfx,^
[15:00] <N03L> My bad, unix commands.
[15:00] <Cong> I think he means Posix.
[15:00] <blackshirt> n03l, a lot of book and documentations availables on internet
[15:00] <Cong> I think he means bash now.
[15:00] <ThinkT510> !terminal | N03L
[15:00] <N03L> Any in particular that you could recommend?
[15:01] <blackshirt> n03l, linuxcommand.org
[15:01] <gsteinert> N03L: i know there are people who will disagree with me, but I found the best way was to decide what I wanted to accomplish then google the hell out of it. you'll develop a much deeper understanding of the inner workings of unix/linux/wahtever it is you're using by fixing mistakes and errors that any book could ever teach you
[15:01] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: there's a Set as Fallback button on each device, but I'm not really sure which one is actually set as the fallback, the icons in there are kind of confusing :P
[15:01] <_Trullo> anyone able to help me find this file: jdk-6u5-linux-i586.bin ?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !java | _Trullo
[15:02] <Dr_willis> Linux/Unix can be thought of as being 'tool' focused. where you find what tools used in what order to get to the end goal you want.. windows tends to be 'task' focused. you find the one tool that does exactly what you want.
[15:03] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: I almost feel like something got botched on installation just because I selected to install the third-party mp3 software or whatever
[15:04] <N03L> thanks guys
[15:04] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if there's no output then the right module/driver is loaded
[15:04] <N03L> gsteinert: yeah defs, of course, I'm just using all the resources I can, including this forum.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, no 3rd party packages wouldn't have done that
[15:05] <blackshirt> n03l, good..you make some learning more awesome
[15:05] <gsteinert> N03L: IRC channels such as this are a lot more useful if you have a specific query you need answering, 'How do I learn unix' is about as vague as they come!
[15:05] <gsteinert> N03L: is there anything in particular you want to be able to do with your unix box?
[15:05] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: no output on that command
[15:06] <N03L> I want to learn how to check my emails via terminal.
[15:06] <esing> I want to remove shortcuts of my mounted drives on the starter. I tried to find gconf-editor, but I do not find it
[15:06] <N03L> I've tried a few methods, but always had problems with them.
[15:06] <blackshirt> greats n03l
[15:06] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , sudo alsa force-reload . if there' no output you may have to reboot
[15:07] <gaelfx> esing: sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
[15:07] <esing>  thanks
[15:07] <zal> so howto debug a tvtuner on ubuntu ?.?
[15:07] <blackshirt> n03l, you don't tell what are you doing to check email
[15:07] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: plenty of output on that one
[15:08] <zal> N03L: try to fix ur software with update on usb in service mode ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , now try your audio
[15:09] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: it's a no go
[15:09] <gsteinert> N03L: i guarantee that 90% of methods you try for anything will hit a snag somewhere. the important part is not to give up just becuase it didn't work first time. what problems were you experiencing?
[15:09] <araxis> hey everyone, i have a question regarding ubuntu server if anyone has a moment :)
[15:10] <zal> ubuntu tv server ?
[15:10] <gsteinert> araxis: if you have a question, ask! don't ask to ask
[15:10] <gaelfx> !ask > araxis
[15:10] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, reboot , or try toi set the pavucontrol to the setting with analog in it
[15:10] <blackshirt> araxis, what the problems ?
[15:10] <N03L> gsteinert: I haven't given up. I've just posponed.. LOL! I'll get back to you on that one.,
[15:12] <araxis> blackshirt, i was given a few older servers and i am planning to run 2 of them. i was wondering if its feasible to install ubuntu to both of them
[15:12] <araxis> i guess ermm, thats not a good description of what i want..
[15:12] <blackshirt> how older your server?
[15:12] <dubaco> Hi, a friend has asked me to fix there px, i read an article from someone in a magasine about how they used a bootable usb to clean there windows drive from a virus, have you any idea how i can clean the windows drive on my friends machine. I have booted into a her machine via a usb drive, the graphics wont work can you help me scan the windows drive using clamav on the usb ubuntu?
[15:12] <dubaco> pc*
[15:13] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: I just figured it out, it seems no matter which I set fallback to, it defaults to hdmi
[15:13] <araxis> i wanted to have these 2 servers work together or act as one system, i dont know if thats a reasonable expectation
[15:13] <fidel> araxis: what for? or why?
[15:13] <araxis> they're really old, like, original xeons i believe
[15:13] <blackshirt> araxis, yes..you can
[15:14] <araxis> no particular reason fidel, i just got these servers because i wanted to play around with the hardware and stuff
[15:14] <esing> I followed this instruction but nautilus does not inhabit the options mentioned in the instructions http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/06/how-to-hide-mounted-drives-from-ubuntu.html
[15:14] <blackshirt> duraco, yes,
[15:14] <zal> ubuntu tv server
[15:14] <araxis> i thought it would be cool to explore set up one server, then i thought it would be cooler to have multiple machines be connected together
[15:14] <blackshirt> esing, sorry, i can't follow your link given
[15:14] <esing> solved
[15:15] <araxis> the long term goal isnt much, probably host my mud on it, and maybe others
[15:15] <esing> blackshirt solved, it was because the tutorial was for ubuntu 11 (not unity)
[15:15] <esing> blackshirt instead i need to use this command: gconftool --set /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/devices_option  --type=int 0
[15:15] <blackshirt> araxis, you will learn some great thing...
[15:15] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: any idea how I can change the default?
[15:16] <blackshirt> greats esing
[15:16] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok , open this file with root permissions , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:16] <blackshirt> congratulations,
[15:16] <araxis> blackshirt its all about learning for me, and trying complicated stuff. if i break my installation, no worries
[15:16] <araxis> complicated for me anyway
[15:16] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: done
[15:17] <fidel> araxis: you could do similar things with a pair of virtual machines - just as alternative idea
[15:17] <blackshirt> araxis, it doesn't a matter ...
[15:17] <jerrrys> araxis, i use an old server for my desktop machine, noiesy but i like it.  whats the make of yours?
[15:17] <esing> blackshirt thanks
[15:18] <araxis> fidel: well thats why im here! I really dont know what the best approach is, but i have 2 fully working servers with acceptable hardware, so im trying to figure out my options
[15:18] <__mike__> araxis, Have a google for "ubuntu cluster", or have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Clustering
[15:18] <N03L> What other channels can I join besides ubuntu?
[15:18] <N03L> Are IRC like weechat only exclusive to  help forums?
[15:18] <araxis> jerrys: believe it or not, the systems are custom built and the cases are called "red wings"
[15:18] <N03L> Or can I sing into a social forum?
[15:18] <N03L> sign*
[15:18] <blackshirt> araxis, you could make some clustering or load balancing
[15:18] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, then at the bottom , add this line:  options snd_hda_intel index=0
[15:19] <araxis> jerrrys: they are pentium 3 xeons i think, with raid scsi drives and 2gb ram
[15:19] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: haha, I was just gonna ask if that's what I should do :P
[15:19] <ThinkT510> N03L: /join ##linux if you want more broader linux based help
[15:19] <araxis> jerrrys: and each system is dual cpu
[15:19] <blackshirt> araxis, you can maximize your server with linux
[15:19] <fidel> araxis: well if its just about playing with tech AND no need to havethose servicesrunning all day long i would always go the vmway on my desktop. saves energy and isnt that different on the other hand ;)
[15:19] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, save the file , then reboot
[15:19] <ThinkT510> N03L: this channel is only focused on ubuntu support
[15:19] <blackshirt> Especially with full text mode,
[15:20] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: force-reloading alsa again won't fix it?
[15:20] <araxis> blackshirt: clustering is the key, got it
[15:20] <N03L> ThinkT510: Makes sense. Thanks man.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, you can try , but i think whatever you set in pavucontrol is over riding the alsa.conf settings atm
[15:20] <araxis> fidel: do you have a link i could look at? how would i do this for 2 rigs?
[15:21] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: actually, I just tried, and it did work!
[15:21] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok
[15:21] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: thanks heaps, that was truly a wonderful session
[15:22] <BluesKaj> you have audio then , gaelfx? ..a bit surprising actaully , a reboot is usually required
[15:22] <jerrrys> araxis, sounds usable, i just load the ubuntu desktop and play with it for a while.  got a video card?
[15:23] <araxis> jerrrys: indeed i do :)
[15:23] <blackshirt> araxis, maybe better for server edition on it
[15:23] <fidel> araxis: installing a virtual machine software on your desktop, start that vm-software and define 2 virtual hosts/machines. install any os you want in those vms - set the network up for all vm's and there you go. virtualbox or vmware are known vm-solutions. no need for having extra hardware powered up 24x7
[15:24] <fidel> at the end its about what & how you want to play ... both virtual or real machines might do the job depending what you need/want. wasjust trying to point that out araxis
[15:25] <araxis> blackshirt: i currently only have 1 server running and it has server edition installed on it, 12.04. so far all ive done is setup ssh so i can use the command line from my desktop
[15:25] <araxis> jerrrys: my house is turning in to a sauna
[15:26] <blackshirt> araxis, you making a greats step on learning
[15:26] <gaelfx> BluesKaj: yeah, it's definitely working, now I just need to voodoo some media key bindings
[15:27] <araxis> fidel: i see what you're saying, that sounds pretty cool actually. i have this long term vision of hosting my own mud on these servers and perhaps several other muds. or anything really, but that's a long way out
[15:27] <BluesKaj> gaelfx, ok cool
[15:27] <jerrrys> araxis, oh yes, for about the heat.  what are they, 5u's?
[15:27] <araxis> fidel: ive always wanted to host stuff because its fun, no other reason really
[15:28] <araxis> jerrrys: 4u's
[15:28] <jerrrys> yep
[15:29] <Kryptron> xfe100
[15:29] <Cong> there is no entry for Removal Drives and Media in my system/preferences!
[15:29] <BlueWolf> tim442: I downloaded the package but which one do I install and how do I?
[15:30] <araxis> jerrrys: ive been pleasantly surprised by these servers performance. maybe i had a prejudice against p3's idk, i thought theyd be awful
[15:30] <Cong> I'm reading UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto on help.ubuntu.com/community.
[15:31] <araxis> jerrrys: but when i started them up and they had windows 2003 server installed, they ran really smooth and quickly. im guessing i didnt give the dual cpu thing enough credit, or maybe its the scsi drives
[15:31] <araxis> jerrrys: not sure
[15:31] <jerrrys> araxis, dual p3's sound like a good deal to me
[15:32] <jerrrys> whats the clock?
[15:32] <yadira> is tehre a program thath can clean mount points,,,,or refresh the mount point,,,i have this issue with my terra that was just working fine,,,,,,http://imagebin.org/228518
[15:33] <AntIGlenda> how to change font in alt+f1 console ?
[15:33] <AntIGlenda> c-alt-fN
[15:33] <araxis> jerrrys: if you want to see the case http://imagebin.org/228520
[15:33] <araxis> jerrrys: 1ghz
[15:34] <Cong> AntIGlenda, ctrl + -/+, maybe?
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> ,,,,,
[15:34] <Cong> ......
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> ee doesnt work
[15:34] <AntIGlenda> :D
[15:35] <yadira> i get this when accesing my terra,,,,mount exited with exit code 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
[15:35] <jerrrys> araxis, if i remember right, thats the top of the line p3
[15:36] <araxis> jerrrys: its very close, they may have gone a little faster but not by much
[15:36] <Cong> AntIGlenda, try the ones on the keypad.
[15:37] <_Trullo> need to install this jdk-6u5-linux-i586.bin on my raspberry pi.. anyone wanna help me out?
[15:38] <AntIGlenda> Cong: still doesnt work. this is pure console without X ctrl+alt+f1
[15:38] <ogra_> _Trullo, you are aware that the RPi is an arm based system and that your "i586" file is for x86 systems ?
[15:38] <jerrrys> araxis, good luck, im out of here :)
[15:38] <ogra_> (read: that cant work)
[15:39] <_Trullo> ogra, I have a program that is based on jdk 6u5.. is it possible at all to get this on my arm based system?
[15:39] <Cong> AntIGlenda, is number lock on?
[15:40] <ogra_> _Trullo, no idea, ask the distributor of the RPi image you use, ubuntu doesnt even run on the raspberry
[15:40] <AntIGlenda> Cong: i even dont know how to name it properly, yes number lock is on
[15:42] <Cong> AntIGlenda, on gnome-terminal view/zoom in or out.
[15:42] <faiq> how i can upgrage ubuntu 10.04 lts to ubuntu 12?
[15:42] <AntIGlenda> Cong: its not gnome-terminal
[15:42] <Cong> I don't know what you're on so I can't help.
[15:43] <AntIGlenda> Cong: this is text console
[15:43] <AntIGlenda> Cong: default text console coming with every linux without X11
[15:44] <Cong> How many points do you think the font is?
[15:44] <Cong> 10pt?
[15:44] <AntIGlenda> i wnat to change this font to something else and if it is possible to use regional settings
[15:44] <AntIGlenda> with proper local font
[15:45] <_kud> Hello
[15:45] <_kud> I've got two questions about ubuntu on virtualbox
[15:45] <AntIGlenda> i dont know ;)
[15:45] <_kud> First of all, I don't succeed to mount automatically my shared folder via fstab
[15:45] <truexfan81> why is my sudo password not working for gksu?
[15:45] <esing> Is there already a burning program in Ubuntu 12.04 or should I install one?
[15:46] <esing> (I need to burn an iso )
[15:46] <ThinkT510> !burn | esing
[15:46] <_kud> even with shared_folder /home/user/host vboxsf defaults 0 0
[15:46] <esing> Thanks
[15:46] <_kud> in my fstab
[15:46] <ThinkT510> esing: i like xfburn
[15:46] <andrealto98> hi guys!
[15:46] <_kud> it's weird because sudo mount -t vboxsf shared_folder /home/user/host works perfectly
[15:46] <araxis> blackshirt: thanks for your help
[15:47] <araxis> fidel: thank you for the help!
[15:47] <esing> Oh.. there is already a burning program in ubuntu 12.04 called Brasero ... did not know that!
[15:47] <araxis> !ask gaelfx
[15:47] <araxis> !ask > gaelfx
[15:48] <araxis> shame..
[15:48] <andrealto98> have you install ubuntu 12.10 alpha yet?
[15:48] <truexfan81> anyone?
[15:48] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | andrealto98
[15:49] <truexfan81> ubuntu 12.04 minimal, my password that works for sudo does not work for gksu, i need help
[15:49] <_kud> Okay it works now
[15:49] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: what are you attempting to launch with gksudo?
[15:50] <_kud> The second question is I would like to make my shared folder as /home/user
[15:50] <truexfan81> gdebi
[15:50] <andrealto98> in your ubuntu version have you got Unity Gnome KDE XFCE or LXDE?
[15:51] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: you shouldn't need to, just right click the file and open with gdebi
[15:51] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: any reason you aren't using the repo?
[15:51] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: that works until i click the install button
[15:51] <andrealto98> ping -s 10 www.google.com
[15:52] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: i'm attempting to install inxi, its not in the repos
[15:52] <ogra_> truexfan81, what do you mean by "12.04 minimal" ?
[15:52] <andrealto98> exit
[15:52] <ThinkT510> truexfan81: are its dependencies in the repo?
[15:52] <ThinkT510> !mini | ogra_
[15:52] <andrealto98> freenode join channel
[15:52] <andrealto98> free
[15:52] <andrealto98> opensource
[15:53] <ogra_> ThinkT510, ah, k,. so the mini.iso, i thought he might have used the ubuntu-core tarball (which comes completely unconfigured ... i.e. without the ubuntu sudo setup)
[15:53] <Chewtwig> Trying to install Edubuntu turned my computer into a doorstop >:C anyways I still want to, do I have to completely format my hard drive or do I need to burn another md5summed iso disc or get a new computer
[15:54] <truexfan81> ThinkT510: i got it installed using dpkg in terminal
[15:54] <gigatropolis>  #brewtarget
[15:55] <truexfan81> sigh
[15:55] <truexfan81> System:    Host buntupc Kernel 3.2.0-30-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop N/A Distro Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[15:55] <truexfan81> there we go
[15:55] <Cong> AntIGlenda, do you get those load beeps from the system bell?
[15:56] <Cong> I hate those.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, what is the evidence of a doorstop?
[15:57] <Cong> laud beeps...
[15:57] <Chewtwig> no response as if locked in some sort of endless loop
[15:57] <unperson> When I run the release upgrade from upgrade manager, does it download packages from the mirrors normally used for other updates (specified in /etc/sources.list) or always from the official Ubuntu mirror?
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, do you get grub menu before this?
[15:57] <Chewtwig> installing not running
[15:58] <ChogyDan> unperson: I think from whatever mirror you have setup
[15:58] <Chewtwig> it fouls up jsut at the end :C
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, Ah, I have no idea what this :C means
[15:58] <Chewtwig> it means exaggerated displeasure
[15:59] <Chewtwig> in a childlike way
[15:59] <Chewtwig> :C
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, Ah, have you tried any other linux installs?
[15:59] <Chewtwig> slackware but that wont automatically detect my wifi or auto use it
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, It does  not sound like hardware problem if it has run other OS's, I guess you need one that runs, how old is the computer what is the ram and cpu?
[16:02] <Chewtwig> about nigh old, with about 3 giggles of RAM & a processor of a couple or so gigahertz :3
[16:04] <Chewtwig> not so old rly
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> Chewtwig, If it was me I would investigate the graphics and wifi/ethernet card as far as releases I suppose, all you can really do and find a OS that should run. Ubuntu like others have lots of drivers. I assume here as well you are setting up the installs correctly, and know exactly the file and partition types. card
[16:05] <Chewtwig> it ran be4
[16:08] <Anonaly> buna ziua
[16:13] <rsser> how can I know if my system is PAE or NON-PAE?
[16:14] <blackshirt> rsser, your kernel or your cpu?
[16:14] <rsser> my kernel
[16:15] <blackshirt> rsser, usually, your kernel would named with pae on their name
[16:15] <blackshirt> paste your uname -a
[16:15] <xoxo> ciao a tutti  ho nun prolema con la tanstiera
[16:16] <ogra_> !it
[16:16] <blackshirt> or dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[16:16] <blackshirt> !pae
[16:16] <ogra_> that info smells a bit outdated :)
[16:25] <droxight> what is the topic?
[16:27] <jrib> droxight: ubuntu technical support
[16:28] <viren> sir 4.1 channel speker does not working on my pc
[16:28] <viren> plz give me any solution
[16:28] <_DiviC_> Hello friends!
[16:28] <name_> while checking the signal strength of a CDMA modem, i get following error--> Error reading signal quality: org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.General: Could not parse signal quality results
[16:28] <scarrs> viren: have you tried alsamixer?
[16:28] <name_> any idea what to do?
[16:28] <viren> i hd try sir
[16:29] <_DiviC_> A lost wanderer is looking for help. Anyone available?
[16:29] <viren> but my rear speker not working
[16:29] <scarrs> is it muted?
[16:30] <_DiviC_> I got a P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3 motherboard. Now to the issue. There is no sound driver available from Asus own site, is there other drivers that might be useful?
[16:31] <ogra_> _DiviC_, on linux you usually dont need vendor drivers
[16:31] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: Here's the strategy I used back when I didn't buy thinkpads: type 'lspci' and find the sound card
[16:31] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: then throw the entire line into google, in quotes.
[16:32] <Shirakawasuna> _DiviC_: it'll say something like 'audio device' in lspci
[16:34] <_DiviC_> Oh, I'll try that right away. While I'm doing that you could think of my other problem. Everything freezes in short periods where I can't interact with anything. The mouse and keyboard still works fine, but can't click or write anything.
[16:36] <ThinkT510> _DiviC_: either something is seriously taxing your cpu or its a graphics driver problem
[16:36] <_DiviC_> My CPU is fine. High end computer and from what I know, ubuntu isn't that heavy
[16:37] <_DiviC_> Guess I'll have to dive into the gpu then
[16:37] <gsteinert> _DiviC_, you could try keeping a terminal window open with top or htop running, you'll be able to see the state of your CPU as and when things freeze up
[16:41] <name_> while checking the signal strength of a CDMA modem, i get following error--> "Error reading signal quality: org.freedesktop.ModemManager.Modem.General: Could not parse signal quality results" any idea on how to diagnose? i am using ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <jnb> what is the command to install an autorun package from terminal
[16:44] <iljo> hello, i have a problem setting up ubuntu 12.04 on my newly purchased dell inspiron 17R-5720
[16:45] <iljo> i need a wireless driver, where would one find this
[16:47] <jnb> anyone know the terminal command to install a software
[16:47] <gsteinert> jnb, sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[16:47] <Fuchs> sudo apt-get install packagename
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, note you do need to know the package name
[16:48] <jnb> I downloaded the package from the internet
[16:48] <jnb> I am installing a printer
[16:48] <ohmygoddess> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, each time when I start, it said  no argument specified
[16:48] <jnb> I have the package downloaded to the desktop
[16:49] <gsteinert> sudo dpkg install <filename>
[16:49] <gsteinert> ... i think
[16:49] <gsteinert> its been a while
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> there is a problem with grml-debootstrap on ubuntu:
[16:49] <JyZyXEL>  * Executing: debootstrap --arch amd64 --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg  sid /mnt/debootstrap.14681 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/
[16:49] <fidel> jnb: if possible - you should always try tp install using ubuntus paketmangement
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> I: Retrieving Release
[16:49] <ogra_> if it is a .deb file
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> I: Retrieving Release.gpg
[16:49] <JyZyXEL> E: Release signed by unknown key (key id AED4B06F473041FA)
[16:49] <_DiviC_> During my freeze my CPU didn't get over 1%
[16:49] <jnb> it not available in software center or package manager
[16:49] <jnb> this is the samsung unifed printer drivers for linux systems
[16:49] <ogra_> JyZyXEL, better ask in a debian channel
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> ogra_: grml-deboostrap ON UBUNTU
[16:50] <fidel> jnb: so what file type is itß
[16:50] <jnb> I used cd to browse the folder
[16:50] <jnb> autorun
[16:50] <jnb> file
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> in debian it works just fine
[16:50] <jnb> when I double click on it I dont have administrative priviliges
[16:50] <ogra_> JyZyXEL, and ? the release file comes from the debian server
[16:50] <JyZyXEL> its ubuntu where it does not work
[16:50] <jnb> without enabling the root account
[16:50] <jnb> i would like to run this software
[16:51] <jnb> i am using terminal as sudo su
[16:51] <jnb> is it install or sudo I tried them both
[16:51] <gsteinert> jnb: you wont be able to install without using sudo or being loggedi n as root
[16:52] <jnb> what is the sudo command
[16:52] <gsteinert> what format is the file? does it have a .deb extension?
[16:52] <jnb> no autorun
[16:52] <jnb> I just need the admin command to install the autorun
[16:52] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, what software
[16:52] <jnb> Samsung Unified Printer Driver
[16:52] <jnb> for linux os
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, did they give you installation instructions?
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> they should ahve
[16:53] <jnb> yes
[16:53] <orated> Hello! I'm trying to ssh to my linux system from outside its internal network. My connection setup is as follows - ADSL router followed by wireless router. Both the routers are configured for ssh on port 22. I'm able to ssh within systems in the same network but not from outside. I'm facing this problem only after trying dydns option in the routers. I later changed the config to its previous working state. Now, I always get "ssh_exchange_identification:
[16:53] <orated>  Connection closed by remote host" error. How can I fix this?
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> and are you following them?
[16:53] <jnb> however they advise you log in as root user
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> jnb, sudo [command] will do the same thing
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntu has no root user per se
[16:53] <TheLordOfTime> !root | jnb
[16:53] <jnb> lol
[16:53] <jnb> Matrix
[16:54] <jnb> what is the command
[16:54] <Matrix> jnb?
[16:54] <Muelli> well. "sudo -s" or "sudo -i" will "log you in as root".
[16:54] <ogra_> lol
[16:54] <jnb> I am aware of sudo
[16:54] <ohmygoddess> Hello, I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, each time I start , there is an error:  no argument specified
[16:54] <gsteinert> orated, seems like a network issue.. is port 22 being forwarded properly by both routers?
[16:55] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: how do you that there is an error?
[16:55] <phyrexianslug> If you ever want to set a root password:  sudo passwd root
[16:55] <ohmygoddess> if I restart my system, the error shows up
[16:55] <ohmygoddess> even the windows system
[16:55] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: where does it show up?
[16:55] <gsteinert> ohmygoddess, does it get past the bootloader?
[16:56] <jnb> I just want to run autorun that came with the samsung package
[16:56] <jnb> simple question
[16:56] <orated> gsteinert: Yes, I checked that back again In the first router its forwarded to <IP_ADDRESS> for SSH 22 TCP followed in next wireless router for port 22 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:56] <gsteinert> ohmygoddess, by that i mean do you ever see anything that say linux, ubuntu or windows when booting?
[16:56] <ohmygoddess> yes, it get past the bootloader, I can press any key or not
[16:56] <jnb> what command allows your to run or install a software
[16:56] <ogra_> jnb, right, just follow the install isntructions they gave you
[16:56] <Muelli> jnb: there is no such thing as "autorun". that doesn't make sense.
[16:56] <jnb> it needs me to log in as root user
[16:56] <orated> gsteinert: Same configuration used to work before
[16:56] <ogra_> jnb, and where is say to do stuff as root you prefix the command with sudo
[16:56] <jnb> sudo and then what install
[16:57] <ogra_> jnb, if they want you to run all commands as root, just prefix all of them with sudo ;)
[16:57] <jnb> will someone just answer the question what is the command to install in terminal
[16:57] <ogra_> jnb, the command from the instructions
[16:57] <Muelli> jnb: use "sudo -s" and you're "logged in as root". done.
[16:57] <ohmygoddess> Muelli: it shows up before the accounts appears
[16:57] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: well, can you make a screenshot or anything, because it's entirely unclear to me where you get "an error".
[16:58] <sklo> hello, grub2 problem - every time i restart, i got messed up disks once is sdB another time sdC any1 has i clue how to fix it or manage it?
[16:58] <gsteinert> orated, it seems like the ssh server isn't responding - or refusing the connection. check the config and make sure it's listening on the right interface
[16:58] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, and what doesnt work for you (apart from you seeing an info message on the screen) ?
[16:58] <Muelli> sklo: you use uuids. Not partition names.
[16:58] <sklo> Muelli i thought i did
[16:59] <sklo> Muelli ty thought
[16:59] <ohmygoddess> orga_: everything works fine, just the message is annoying
[16:59] <Muelli> jnb: In Ubuntu we install software using the software centre or "apt-get install". If third parties do not want to go through the software centre, they need to provide sensible instructions as to how to install it. So I'd ask the vendor.
[16:59] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, i seriously doubt that is an error, its likely just a program telling you it runs without arguments
[16:59] <Muelli> well sklo. If you really want to fix the names, not recommended though, you can write a udev rule.
[17:00] <jnb> if you dont know say you dont know
[17:00] <gsteinert> sklo, your /etc/fstab file should show whether your system is using UUID's. dont go editing it if you dont know what you're doing though
[17:00] <jnb> i dont need opinions
[17:00] <jnb> I asked a simple question
[17:00] <jnb> what is the install command
[17:00] <jnb> if you dont know keep your opinions
[17:00] <ogra_> jnb, Muelli gave you the command to become root above ...
[17:00] <ohmygoddess> ogra_: is there anyway to get rid of the message?
[17:00] <jnb> I am logged in as root
[17:00] <jnb> I am using the terminal
[17:00] <ogra_> jnb, great, so just follow their instructions
[17:00] <gsteinert> jnb, your question is like going into burger king and asking how to make a big mac
[17:00] <fidel> jnb: either read the install instructions - or search the web on how to execute an .autorun file. but dont blame others for offering help ;)
[17:01] <jnb> you dont know because this same file was executed in terminal with LMDE
[17:01] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, depends wheer it comes from ... i woudl start with filing a bug in launchpad and attaching logs you will be asked for by the devs
[17:01] <jnb> in the xchat session they advised to cd to the autorun file and type the following in terminal to execute
[17:02] <ogra_> once it ios clear where it comes from you can likely quieten it
[17:02] <ogra_> jnb, you cant cd to a file
[17:02] <ohmygoddess> ogra_: I am a newbee, where I can find the log?
[17:02] <ogra_> you can cd to a directory
[17:02] <sklo> Muelli I'm just reading about changing all to uuid, grub 1 was way esier in coniguring
[17:03] <jnb> your reading to much into my comment ogra
[17:03] <jnb> i know that
[17:03] <Muelli> ohmygoddess: are you logged in, when the problem appears? If so, you can make a screenshot by pressing the print button.
[17:03] <jnb> i am at the directory with the autorun
[17:03] <jnb> again useless info
[17:03] <ogra_> ohmygoddess, just run ubuntu-bug ... it will do everything for you
[17:03] <ohmygoddess> Muelli, it is just before I logged in
[17:03] <gsteinert> sklo, the assignment of sd* names is done by udev, not grub. udev uses /etc/fstab to decide what to mount on startup
[17:04] <ohmygoddess> Muelli: it is after I choose windows or ubuntu to start, and before I logged in
[17:04] <ogra_> jnb, well, then help yourself, i wont waste my saturday evening for someone who cant express himself right and blames me for giving the proper hints based on that
[17:04] <fidel> ogra_: +1 ;)
[17:04] <jnb> good
[17:04] <Muelli> ack
[17:05] <gsteinert> jnb: if you're just going to criticise the help you are getting, don't bother asking in the first place. people in here do this in their free time, they are not a paid for helpdesk... such is the linux community
[17:06] <nirav> hey
[17:06] <Zuten> jnb: If it is an executable file you could run it with ./<filename>  where you exchange <filename> with the name of the file
[17:06] <gsteinert> hey nirav
[17:06] <Zuten> jnb: that is dot and slash before the filename
[17:06] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT adaptator Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thaank you !
[17:06] <Muelli> nb: the file has to have the executable flag set, i.e. chmod a+x $filename
[17:07] <Muelli> ougogo: how do you know it doesn't work?
[17:07] <IRCMonkey> Hi i am trying to install ubuntu, but it seams doesnot recognice the hard disk. how could i format it, or what can i do? thanks.
[17:07] <danes> hello, anyone knows if its possible to run the musicbrainz music tagger from terminal?
[17:07] <Muelli> IRCMonkey: can you pastebin us the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> danes,  thjat a linux app? windows app? what excatly?
[17:08] <Muelli> danes: probably. You can "locate musicbrainz" to see whether there is an executable at all.
[17:08] <nirav> i am new in ubuntu..i downloaded theme which extention is tar.gz...after extracting ..i try to open with theme manager...it`s show invalid theme package..but now i cannot open any place from short cute...for example when i openhome,it show appearance manager
[17:09] <gsteinert> danes: i did use it briefly and iirc it was a GUI app only... but things may have changed/my memory may be fuzzy
[17:09] <danes> Dr_willis, picard is the app that runs musicbrainz but it is a gui version
[17:10] <danes> gsteinert, yes, it is a gui app as far as I know
[17:10] <gsteinert> nirav, have you tried opening the downloaded file instead of the extracted contents?
[17:10] <nirav> i try both
[17:10] <IRCMonkey> Muelli: how do i get the console?
[17:10] <Muelli> IRCMonkey: Ctrl+Alt+T
[17:12] <gsteinert> danes, http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainzEnabledApplications <-- take a look at that, beets may suit your purpose
[17:15] <ougogo> Bonsoir, j'essaie en vain d'installer une clé tnt Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro ..... J'ai suivi à la lettre ce tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491 Mais cela ne fonctionne pas :s Quelqu'un saurait-il m'aider ?
[17:15] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT adaptator Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thaank you !
[17:15] <gsteinert> !fr > ougogo
[17:16] <gsteinert> nirav, .tar.gz often require building before they can be used. are there any install instructions in the extracted files?
[17:18] <Ecki> Guten Abend
[17:24] <munsking> hello, after installing nvidia drivers for my system(ubu 12.04, nvidia GTX 560ti) my second monitor displays a white screen with black X as cursor, rightclick works like on the desktop though
[17:24] <munsking> does anyone know a solution, or what the problem might be so i can find one myself?
[17:25] <AndroUser> Sss
[17:26] <Boreeas> Is there a way to reload the sound system without restarting the computer? Something crashed it, and all sounds are distorted now
[17:26] <AndroUser> Hello people
[17:26] <AndroUser>  is there any one
[17:27] <ogra_> Boreeas, you coudl try running: pulseaudio -k
[17:27] <ogra_> Boreeas, but that wont help if anything is wrong on the underlying level (alsa)
[17:28] <hfic> Boreeas, or just restart x
[17:31] <munsking> so, does anyone have any idea about the 2nd monitor problem?
[17:31] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT device Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ?  Thanks
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> ougogo, I don't know how many here read french I don't can you you give a bit of s description in english.
[17:38] <r3dux> If you're going to call yourself plagiarism, spell it correctly ;-)
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> a*
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> !pm > ougogo
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> ougogo, The channel is better for help, my suggestion of a understandable description does not mean I know the fix, and I don't pm. ;)
[17:44] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to setup my TNT device Avermedia Avertv Volar HD Pro. I've done this tuto ; http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491  But it doesn't work.... Anybody could help me please ? Thank you !
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, you didnt read that tutorial then, did you not notice it *lists* what cards it'd work for?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> that device you mentioned isnt on that list.
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> or perhaps it does
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, did you check the ID of the device to make sure it matches?
[17:46] <ougogo> AVerTV HD PRO : it's my device, just less "avertmedia"
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> ougogo, pastebin the output of "lsusb"
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> and check the "ID" field against the list of devices in that post
[17:47] <ougogo> Yes yes, it(s the same ID : http://pastebin.com/0rSVqyHQ
[17:48] <tking> hi please i have opera installed, but it wouldn't load when i try to launch it. From terminal i typed "opera" and i got opera this ------ [crash logging]: CRASH!! opera: error while reading system fonts, /usr/lib/opera/opera got signal SIGSEGV at address 08670986
[17:49] <strawbmx> hola
[17:50] <strawbmx> HolaaaaaA! :)
[17:51] <strawbmx> alguien? :)
[17:53] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[17:54] <gsteinert> !es ? strawbmx
[17:55] <gsteinert> strawbmx, hi strawbmx, this is an english only channel - if you ahve a question ask away
[17:57] <gsteinert> strawbmx, Para los españoles, trate de #ubuntu-es (with thanks to google translate)
[17:57] <black_13_> what doe it mean hd-media in reference to a preseed file?
[17:57] <strawbmx> ok ty
[18:01] <notlrax> hello
[18:02] <notlrax> xbuntu is good to use
[18:03] <Spamicles> So is there a channel to ask questions in that is a bit more populated?
[18:04] <gsteinert> this is one of the busier channels =P what is your question?
[18:04] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[18:06] <gsteinert> Spamicles: judging by the narrow focus of your question, you'll be lucky to get an answer straight away. in this, I think forums may be your friend. a forum post is likely to be viewed far more over a longer time, you have a better chance of finding someone with the same problem
[18:07] <Spamicles> gsteinert, is that the ubuntu launchpad?
[18:08] <gsteinert> launchpad is a bug repoting tool, but could work for you.
[18:08] <Spamicles> gsteinert, so just google ubuntu support forum? =]
[18:09] <gsteinert> i think that's your best bet... and file a bug report too, especially if you can narrow down what is causing the problem at all. a bug report is more likely to be seen by the right people if it is filed correctly.
[18:10] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com  - is worth checking out also.
[18:10] <Spamicles> gsteinert, another quick question. i installed the r statistics package (r-base), but cant figure out how to run it. when i install a package, how do i figure out the command to execute it?
[18:11] <gsteinert> you could check the project website, or run `man <packagename>`
[18:14] <crilly> OK, I have re-installed the nVidia driver and everything goes blurry and crap, even in Fluxbox. Gah
[18:16] <karamel4e_> Question about gddrescue: when specifying the 'output file' should it be /dev/something or /media/somethin?
[18:20] <anon_> How can I kill the session of another user?
[18:20] <anon_> When I login as another user the GUI totally hangs. So I would like to kill it.
[18:22] <lilVaratep> popular terminal music players?
[18:22] <OerHeks> anon_, pkill -KILL -u <username>
[18:24] <anon__> How can I kill the session of another user? When I login as another user the GUI totally hangs. So I would like to kill it.
[18:25] <gsteinert> anon__: see OerHeks message above
[18:25] <maalo> Hi, When I try Ubuntu Live, I lose internet connection because it is with a ".local" domain. What is it, is it fixable? Thanks.
[18:25] <anon__> gsteinert, I can not see it because when he posted it I got disconnected. Could you paste it?
[18:25] <gsteinert> anon__: pkill -KILL -u <username>
[18:26] <miwa_> okay, seriously, how do I make the 'update manager' stop appearing randomly?
[18:26] <gsteinert> maalo: you mean you cant access .local sites but other websites work?
[18:26] <karamel4e_> Question about gddrescue: when specifying the 'output file' should it be /dev/something or /media/somethin?
[18:28] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: a quick gogle suggests its the device, not the mount point (/dev/sd-something)
[18:28] <trism> miwa_: if 12.04, in dconf-editor, com.ubuntu.update-notifier, uncheck autolaunch, then you should get an indicator when updates are available but update-manager won't just pop up
[18:28] <maalo> gsteinert: ethernet and wireless get disconected after some seconds after Unity is loaded because my provider uses a .local domain. I have no access at all to internet then.
[18:28] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: http://onubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/command-line-hard-disk-cloning-with.html
[18:29] <gsteinert> maalo: how do you know it is because your provider uses a .local domain?
[18:29] <miwa> trism: thanks! what does the indicator look like?
[18:29] <lilVaratep> is there a command line visualizer ?
[18:29] <lilVaratep> ya know, the thing that moves up and down as sound changes
[18:30] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I thought it is only for the 'input file'. Thanks, it is written that it would destroy the data in output device. Also it is for ddrescue, do you think it will apply to gddrescue also?
[18:30] <trism> miwa: depends on the update/icon theme, in faenza it is a white blob on normal updates and a red blob on security updates (I think it might be orange for normal and red for security in the default theme), you should notice it when it appears
[18:31] <alecst> gvim doesn't show up when i superkey-a search for it in 12.04. googled the problem and couldn't find anything. anyone have an idea why?
[18:31] <maalo> gsteinert: after some seconds of being connected, unity shows a label for a couple of seconds saying that about .local domain, and I should call my internet provider
[18:32] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, sorry, my mistake for the gddrescue I wrote, thanks, I will take a look at it
[18:32] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: i did miss that difference... the manpage should confirm it for you, run `man gddrescue`. and usually when providing a device as an output any data already on it will be destroyed
[18:32] <gsteinert> maalo: could you post the exact message please?
[18:34] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, so when I try to make an image of a hdd which is 50Gb to a hdd which is 300Gb it will destroy the partition that I have there? I wanted to use only one of the partitions...
[18:34] <maalo> gsteinert: I'll try. It goes away so quick that barely can read it with my bad English. I'll come back in other moment with the complete message. :)
[18:35] <mafiaboy> on installing a package i get this "http://pastebin.com/76Eu5QfA"
[18:35] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: you'll have to check, but it may be possible to write to just one partition (specify /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda for example). but that is just a guess. i'd check the man pages fro confirmation before trying it
[18:36] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I already checked them but it's not that detailed. I will need to do some more research probably :)
[18:37] <gsteinert> the gddrescue website may help... look to see if they have a forum or irc channel
[18:38] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I am trying to find such a channel for days - no success
[18:38] <TheGentleman> Hello everyone. I'm new here.
[18:39] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: it all depends who developed it.. a one-man band has little use for irc, but a team will usually have at least a mailing list
[18:39] <gsteinert> hi TheGentleman
[18:40] <TheGentleman> Me and a friend are comp sci majors, and we would like to contribute to ubuntu as developers. We've read through some of the beginner's team wiki, but are still a little lost.
[18:40] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I was even unable to find an irc channel for rescuing data or whatever :(
[18:40] <DJones> !contribute | TheGentleman Hopefully something here will point you in the right direction,
[18:40] <TheGentleman> And to be honest, our skills are a little lacking. So we also look forward to building up our skills while contributing to the team.
[18:40] <fantaghiro> TheGentleman, I think it is great idea to contribute to this software, I like theat idea, but I m still new to software programming
[18:41] <TheGentleman> Thanks for the links guys :D
[18:41] <fantaghiro> :D
[18:41] <gsteinert> karamel4e_: irc channels usually spring up around specific pieces of software rather than general topics unfortunately =(
[18:41] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, I see
[18:43] <fantaghiro> well, do they use some git or something to allow people to contribute to Ubuntu? interesting topic - this contributing
[18:43] <jimi_> how do i fix this? syntax error: unknown group 'postdrop' in statoverride file
[18:44] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, funny, I just found another website where they say the 'output' should be with the mount point. I am confused
[18:44] <cbg0> I've been playing with Ubuntu without installing it.  I've tried creating an X11 config, but everything I re-run 'nvidia-settings' my monitor is always disabled in there. Not sure what is going on.
[18:47] <cbg0> I've been using it from a USB, I guess it's like a live CD thing, and I've put some files in /home/ubuntu
[18:48] <Dr_willis> cbg0,  if you do an Install.. it does not move any files over.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> nor will it install any extra apps you installed
[18:49] <gsteinert> cbg0: your best bet is to put the files you ahve onto an external drive or network location before you install
[18:49] <gsteinert> then compy them onto your new install once you are done
[18:49] <gsteinert> *copy
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu One account - is very handy ;)
[18:49] <karamel4e_> gsteinert, reading..
[18:50] <NewUser> so...installing Ubuntu in the VirtualBox will allow me to access Ubuntu; without re-booting my computer?
[18:50] <gsteinert> Dr_willis: i fear my ubuntu experience has been very much server-based lately. I haven't used a desktop version of linux in about a year now
[18:50] <ThinkT510> NewUser: indeed
[18:51] <gsteinert> NewUser: that's the idea... although it will have to share your resources with the host OS
[18:51] <gsteinert> NewUser: great for switching between, but not so good if you want to use linux as your primary OS
[18:51] <ougogo_> Hi all, how can I resolve this error : http://pastebin.com/e5zd90Jk  ?
[18:52] <anon__> Anybody remembers the project where they try to create an uncensorable Internet by connecting all wifi networks around the world?
[18:53] <ThinkT510> ougogo_: what are you trying to compile?
[18:53] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | ougogo_
[18:53] <zykotick9> anon__: freedombox is one such initiative
[18:53] <anon__> zykotick9, thx
[18:54] <ThinkT510> anon__: not sure about wifi. are you thinking of tor?
[18:54] <zykotick9> ThinkT510: "mesh" wireless networks... cool stuff really.
[18:54] <mevvis> anon__: remember idea, but not a name
[18:54] <anon__> ThinkT510, no. Not Tor. Creating an Interet that the government can not shut down. Wifi LAN routers make up the nodes.
[18:55] <TheGentleman> !Contribute
[18:55] <gsteinert> anon__: i remember reading something about it... mesh networking i think it is
[18:57] <ThinkT510> ougogo_: keep it in the channel please, others can see and help then
[18:59] <signornessuno> hi i need to convert a video and i want to use fs option to limit the file size to be sure a dvd is enough but i get a message that ffmeg expect a different file size, what should i do?
[19:00] <ougogo_> I try to install Avertv Volar HD pro : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491
[19:00] <ougogo_> I've make "checkinstall make" but now ? What should I do ?
[19:01] <zykotick9> ougogo_: do you have a DEB file where you ran checkinstall now?  if so, install it.
[19:02] <ougogo_> Noo DEB file ....
[19:02] <ougogo_> Some error : http://pastebin.com/e5zd90Jk
[19:03] <zykotick9> ougogo_: that's what checkinstall is suppose to do, create a DEB.  (FYI i don't go to pastebin.com, if you used paste.ubuntu.com i could see your pastes/links.
[19:04] <ougogo_> Error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207421/
[19:04] <ali_> exit
[19:04] <banished> Hi, I want to do a bisect according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection but I don't know where to get the debnian/ folder
[19:04] <signornessuno> any suggestion?
[19:06] <zykotick9> ougogo_: sorry, i haven't had to compile versions of v4l for a long time.  you're certainly getting some sort of build error, "cc1: some warnings being treated as errors" but i can't diagnose it, hopefully someone else has some better understanding.  best of luck.
[19:06] <ougogo_> Thank you.
[19:06] <anon__> Found it: Uncensorable Internet by wifi routers: https://code.commotionwireless.net/projects/commotion
[19:09] <leto_> whois ryan52
[19:09] <leto_> shit!
[19:11] <Froward> hey kids
[19:11] <chimney> heyo
[19:11] <chimney> extractig an iso got me ";1" suffixes on everything
[19:12] <Froward> in the file explorer (nautilus?) I have three headings, Devices, Bookmarks, Computer, and Network. Only the first two show up in an Open File dialog for chrome/firefox. How do I make Computer show up?
[19:12] <Froward> It has all my mappings for Pictures, Movies, etc
[19:13] <chimney> extractig an iso got me ";1" suffixes on everything, how do I get rid of it?
[19:13] <Froward> does my question even make sense
[19:13] <Froward> googlestumped
[19:14] <chimney> Froward: nope not for me
[19:14] <Froward> dang
[19:14] <Froward> chimney: you mean on the end of the filenames, right?
[19:15] <chimney> yup
[19:15] <zykotick9> Froward: option 1) bookmark what you are interested in.  option 2) don't rely on "computer", use mount points to access data - learn to mount things where you want them.
[19:15] <Froward> zykotick9: now that you say it, it's blatantly obvious
[19:15] <Froward> chimney: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1186621
[19:16] <chimney> zykotick9: ^^ shouldn't ubuntu mount everything in /media that is important?
[19:16] <Hofman> Hello!
[19:16] <zykotick9> chimney: /media is the vfs mount point yes.  i don't use automounting myself.
[19:16] <Hofman> Can I ask for support thehe?
[19:17] <gsteinert> Hofman: only if you don't ask to ask! =P
[19:17] <Hofman> my problem is with Neon programs
[19:17] <chimney> Froward: thx :)
[19:18] <Hofman> but I use kubuntu and KDE
[19:18] <chimney> zykotick9: where are the setting for the autmount rules?
[19:18] <chimney> zykotick9: pardon my writing, its cold here {o.o}~
[19:18] <zykotick9> chimney: not really sure.  udev/fstab/other_ugly_option.
[19:19] <chimney> zykotick9: thx
[19:19] <zykotick9> chimney: if you use Labels then the automounter will show whatever your "foo" label is like /media/foo handy
[19:19] <chimney> zykotick9: I like the automounting
[19:19] <Hofman> Neon updater and other Neon programs disappeared from my 'Start' menu
[19:20] <chimney> Hofman: if you give me $3M then you'll see them alive
[19:20] <zykotick9> chimney: i'm talking about automounting - automating will use whatever the label for the drive is (no relying on changing sdX# or having to use UUIDs)
[19:20] <Froward> I think it might be /etc/fstab
[19:20] <theadmin> Okay, need help. I'm on Kubuntu 12.04, *without pulseaudio* (it breaks my sound), and I only get sound in headphones.
[19:21] <Froward> ubuntu shows two partitions on my drive but only mounts them when I use them.. I don't know where that setting is.
[19:21] <muelli> well. pulseaudio shouldn't break your sound and you should use pulseaudio, theadmin.
[19:21] <zykotick9> Froward: /etc/fstab is default mount stuff
[19:21] <theadmin> muelli: That is not an answer.
[19:22] <chimney> theadmin: ok, graphical sufface or cli?
[19:22] <muelli> well theadmin. Not using pulseaudio and then complaining is not right.
[19:22] <Froward> muelli: you're just being a whiny git right now ಠ_ಠ
[19:22] <theadmin> muelli: Okay, example: Someone asks why Flash doesn't work in Firefox, you tell them "Use Chrome, it works fine for me"
[19:22] <theadmin> muelli: Is that "right"?
[19:22] <chimney> muelli: alsa?
[19:23] <chimney> theadmin: alsa?
[19:23] <Hofman> it doesn't exist /etc/fstab . only /etc/fstab.d
[19:23] <Hofman> and it's empty
[19:23] <chimney> muelli: sorry
[19:23] <Froward> muelli: this is you: http://www.xkcdb.com/?5088
[19:23] <zykotick9> Hofman: what?  can someone confirm/deny - does ubuntu still use /etc/fstab for mounting?  OMG
[19:24] <muelli> nope theadmin. That's different. First and foremost because Flash is third pary proprietary software.
[19:24] <theadmin> chimney: Yes, plain ALSA, I have a KDE setup (pretty much default Kubuntu setup, but removed Pulse)
[19:25] <theadmin> muelli: Well, you're not helping either way, you shouldn't tell people what they "should" do.
[19:26] <chimney> does it works now?
[19:26] <theadmin> chimney: It appears that ALSA doesn't realise that I unplug the headphones.
[19:26] <muelli> theadmin: Well. If you remove pulseaudio, you remove a core dependency of "ubuntu-desktop". You can't really expect help for your custom setup.
[19:27] <theadmin> muelli: I don't use "ubuntu-desktop". I use "kubuntu-desktop". I know perfectly well that GNOME/Unity depend on Pulse. KDE, however, does not.
[19:27] <chimney> got this too, tried to change tha audio device in the clicky-menu?
[19:27] <chimney> change it twice and hope, could solve it
[19:27] <theadmin> chimney: Not sure what you mean by "clicky-menu", if you mean KMix I trieed
[19:28] <chimney> hm... muelli pulseaudio isnt a core thing, its alsa?
[19:28] <zal> /home/beheer/Desktop/polaris4/v4l/tuner-xc2028.c:1178:5: error: 'T_DIGITAL_TV' undeclared (first use in this function)
[19:28] <muelli> !kubuntu | theadmin
[19:29] <zal> im not a pupeteer
[19:29] <theadmin> muelli: I know what Kubuntu is. That factoid is useless.
[19:29] <gsteinert> theadmin: you did miss the part where it sid try #kubuntu for support
[19:29] <muelli> theadmin: fair enough. See the channel referenced there? They try to support those setups.
[19:31] <theadmin> muelli: True, I guess I can ask there. Sorry for being kinda rude.
[19:34] <theadmin> Found a potential problem... Will reboot and tell you the solution if this works
[19:34] <muelli> hihi. Installed pulseaudio? ;-)
[19:35] <xkill> i need help with networking. i already have some shares on a windows network and can access them just fine from the file manager, but when i am in an application trying to open or save a document i dont know how to open or save from a network location
[19:36] <gsteinert> xkill: when you access them through the file manager they should be mounted somewhere in the file system, most likely under the /media/ directory.. check there?
[19:37] <xkill> smb://monsterplatinum/Users    is the location i will be using most
[19:37] <xkill> thats all i know of where it is
[19:37] <muelli> xkill: it's somewhere in ~/.gvfs2 or so.
[19:38] <muelli> xkill: you check the output of "mount". Or pastebin it and we'll have a look together :)
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> [LYRICS]
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Open Condom Star
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Condom Star
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> [Verse 1]
[19:39] <JonathanDoe> Imagine a dog sat on you Inga.  Yo, you are on a poop dog in a no job
[19:39] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <xkill> http://pastebin.com/RngmjWCB
[19:40] <muelli> xkill: your stuff will be in /home/xubuntu/.gvfs
[19:41] <Dr_willis> xkill,  gnome apps may be able to handle the smb:// type path. but the alternative mountpoint is in .gvfs
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> [LYRICS]
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Open Condom Star
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Condom Star
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> [Verse 1]
[19:42] <JonathanDoe> Imagine a dog sat on you Inga. Jogging yoga.
[19:42] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Pessimist> Ubuntu software center just shows a blank window. How do I run it from the command line to troubleshoot?
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:44] <JonathanDoe> SHE CAN PUT TARGET TO GOD! SHE GOBBLE GAY!
[19:45] <muelli> Pessimist: type software-center
[19:46] <bennyprofane> Hej could someone take a look at this and tell me what's wrong with it? http://pastebin.com/DvjTCM4i
[19:47] <Pessimist> http://pastebin.com/fqjG4yv1 here's what happens. The window doesn't even appear now. Should I fill a bug report?
[19:48] <bennyprofane> I'm trying to mount my Data partition in fstab with read/write access, without the need for a pwd. However, It's not working with this fstab. The partition is "LinuxData", /dev/sdb2
[19:48] <jeff_brad> Hi, newbie with GMA3150 problem, poor screen resolution, suggestions?
[19:49] <muelli> bennyprofane: hm. I wouldn't put "defaults" there. Are you sure it's a proper option? man mount will know.
[19:49] <bennyprofane> I think maybe I need to fix the options by inserting "rw", but I don't know if that means to cancel the "auto", and which is the proper syntax
[19:49] <bennyprofane> I actually have the man mount open
[19:50] <bennyprofane> but I'm a bit lost
[19:50] <eins11> you could try adding a ", user" behind defaults
[19:50] <bennyprofane> auto is an option suggested in U-help page for fstab
[19:50] <muelli> bennyprofane: auto,rw will work fine. Options are separated by a comma and no space.
[19:50] <eins11> but without the space i think
[19:51] <bennyprofane> muelli what about the seqeunce?
[19:51] <muelli> bennyprofane: doesn't matter :)
[19:51] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[19:52] <Dr_willis> if its a ext2/3/4 filesystem - you dont just over ride the permissions and ownership on it with fstab options. You need to chown/chmod stuff as needed
[19:52] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:52] <bennyprofane> the man mount is difficult for me top understand because it contains shell commands, and I don't get how I'm supposed to use those in fstab
[19:53] <Dr_willis> fstab has a similer syntax to the mount command.
[19:53] <yeats> bennyprofane: you can do 'man fstab' too
[19:53] <Dr_willis> when in doubt ise the fstab entries as examples
[19:53] <muelli> bennyprofane: whatever you'd use with "-o" for mount, you'd put in the appropriate options column in your fstab.
[19:53] <Dr_willis> what filesystem is this 'data' partition?
[19:54] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis it's ext4
[19:54] <Dr_willis> then this applies ---->   if its a ext2/3/4 filesystem - you dont just over ride the permissions and ownership on it with fstab options. You need to chown/chmod stuff as needed
[19:54] <Dr_willis> rw option will not allow everyone access to it.
[19:54] <bennyprofane> what is chown/chmod ?
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> !chmod
[19:54] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:54] <Dr_willis> every file has an owner, group and permissions..
[19:55] <Dr_willis> ls -l filename    would show the info for a specific file
[19:55] <bennyprofane> well there is just me on this computer, no one else ever has access to it. So I'd like to arrange things to require as few pwd entries as possible
[19:56] <Dr_willis> then you set the files to be owned by your user.
[19:56] <bennyprofane> in fstab?
[19:56] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[19:57] <bennyprofane> I want to own the complete partition, if doable
[19:57] <Dr_willis> time to read that wiki page on permissions...
[19:57] <Dr_willis> you do NOT override the r/w/ownership via fstab options for ext2/3/4 or other fs's that can store the permissions.
[19:57] <bennyprofane> where is it? looking for it now
[19:57] <Dr_willis> at least ive never noticed a way to...
[19:57] <Dr_willis> the url has been posted  like 4 times in the last 20 lines..
[19:58] <bennyprofane> I don't see any URL, just this: !permissions
[19:58] <Dr_willis> and if you read what the bot says.....
 An explanation of what file permissions are and how they...............
[19:58] <bennyprofane> here i go
[19:58] <bennyprofane> got it
[19:59] <bennyprofane> sry
[20:01] <bennyprofane> however the problem has been appearing to me not as one of permissions, but of mounting partitions, bcs *if* that partition is mounted in fstab, I'm not asked for a pwd when trying to e.g. save a file there. This is how I got to approaching the problem via fstab
[20:01] <Dr_willis> if you make a fstab entry, it will get mounted at boot time
[20:01] <bennyprofane> ...and?
[20:01] <Dr_willis> if you accesss the disk  with no fstab entry. it mounts 'on the fly'
[20:02] <bennyprofane> ...but rquires a pwd first
[20:02] <Dr_willis> it dosent ask for a password to 'save' files there.. it would be on mounting the system mounting task needs the sudo rights..
[20:02] <Dr_willis> if its in the fstab then it would be mounted befor you even login
[20:02] <bennyprofane> I want to eliminate that. I just want unrestricted r/w access to that partition whenever I boot
[20:02] <Dr_willis> then you mount it.. and chown/chmod it to be owned by your user..
[20:03] <bennyprofane> *that=the need to be root/supply my pwd
[20:03] <Dr_willis> make a fstab entry, then chown/chmod the mountpoint and files to be owned by you.
[20:03] <Dr_willis> after its been mounted
[20:03] <bennyprofane> ok
[20:03] <bennyprofane> then first I need to get the fstab options right
[20:03] <Dr_willis> for ext4 'defaults' is most likely the only option you need.
[20:04] <bennyprofane> well that's how it's mounted right now
[20:04] <bennyprofane> so I only need to change permissions now...?
[20:05] <Dr_willis> You got it.
[20:05] <Dr_willis> ownership,  and perhaps permissions..
[20:05] <Dr_willis> mainly ownership.
[20:05] <rsser> why does ubutun support wpa & wpa2 personal criptography?
[20:05] <rsser> ubuntu*
[20:05] <rsser> why doesn't ubuntu support wpa & wpa2 personal criptography?*
[20:06] <kiyoura> cryptography *
[20:06] <bennyprofane> and how to is explained in that wiki page. got it. I hope this won't involve decrypting another man page. really the average man pages is not my friend
[20:06] <rsser> thank you, kiyoura
[20:06] <kiyoura> np
[20:06] <Dr_willis> !chown
[20:06] <Dr_willis> :0
[20:07] <Dr_willis> chowning/permissions is a rather fundamental thing. thats not to hard to understand.. but windows doswent really do  the same thing the same way.
[20:07] <rsser> bennyprofane, NO. I'm having trouble with wi-fi connection. And ubuntu doesn't support wpa & wpa2 connection here
[20:08] <Dr_willis> I think it can depend on thje hardware and drivers rsser
[20:08] <rsser> I can't connect to wifi network under wpa &  wpa2 cryptography
[20:08] <bennyprofane> rsser I didn't say anything to you
[20:08] <rsser> okay, bennyprofane
[20:09] <rsser> I have impression slightly different
[20:09] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  the thing to rember is you chown the mountpoint AFTER its mounted. :) that way you are changeing the owner of the 'root' of the filesystem.
[20:10] <Dr_willis> assuming you want that one user to have full access to the root of the drive.
[20:11] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis I'm not saying the subject is inaccessible, but man pages usually are. they're written by developers for developers, and not for the average user. I'm all about understanding how things work, but there is a limit to how deep you can/want to get into things on a non-professional level
[20:11] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  when they were written the average user WAS a programmer.
[20:11] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis yes that's what I want
[20:11] <bennyprofane> exactly
[20:12] <bennyprofane> sure there is a good reason for it
[20:12] <kiyoura> miss those days
[20:12] <Dr_willis> man pages syntax has been around for 30+ years.. many of the commands are identical to the way they were back then
[20:12] <Dr_willis> The idea of a 'os you learn as you go with out reading a manual' is a very recent 'idea'
[20:13] <bennyprofane> I'm just saying somedays awareness of that fact (the one I tried to explain) is small in the Linux world
[20:13] <bennyprofane> *sometimes
[20:13] <Dr_willis> of course 'exploreing your os'  to learn it.. is much harder when its a command line only os.  like back then.
[20:13]  * Dr_willis feels old.
[20:13] <kiyoura> your os isn't command-line only still? :x
[20:13] <Dr_willis> Get off my lawn you kids. ;)
[20:14] <bennyprofane> no person I know and who is not an It professional would be willing to venture as far into the mechanics of the OS as I am now
[20:14] <Dr_willis> dont make me get out my 9600 baud serial terminal.
[20:14] <bennyprofane> :-D
[20:14] <Dr_willis> I know quiet a few people that dig into the os deeper then this.. and they are not IT anythings...
[20:15] <rsser> how can I install the support wpa & wpa2 to ubuntu?
[20:15] <Dr_willis> its always good to learn the fundamentals and core of how things work..
[20:15] <bennyprofane> well we could start a discussion about whose acquaintances are more represamtive of the "average user"
[20:16] <Dr_willis> Middle aged factory workers here...
[20:16] <Dr_willis> many are grandfathers..
[20:16] <bennyprofane> cool
[20:16] <Dr_willis> eww.. im a Middle Aged Grandfather... Now you really make me feel old.
[20:16] <muelli> hihi
[20:17] <Dr_willis> whats harder to understand is how WIndows does these permissions and so forth..  ive looked into it and am still baffled at times.
[20:17] <bennyprofane> my dad used to work at IBM, sold the first washer-sized MBs of storage to russian companies. He says he was in development too for 2 years... but now he keeps failing to use windows with the most basic tasks
[20:17] <rsser> ?
[20:17] <rsser> ah tnc
[20:18] <bennyprofane> the point is, to use windows, there is no need to understand how it works
[20:18] <bennyprofane> the average user I'm sure doesn't care. they just want things to work
[20:18] <phyrexianslug> That's an old argument:  should you know how a car works to use it?
[20:18] <bennyprofane> I know it's old
[20:19] <phyrexianslug> if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere, and something trivial breaks:
[20:19] <bennyprofane> but there are people who drive cars and know a lot about how it works
[20:19] <bennyprofane> but I'd bet that a great lot more doesn't know all that much
[20:19] <mrFrog> I have a dedicated server, and I'd like to put a couple vps systems on there. I don't have real stringent requirements, just that I can give someone access (ssh or otherwise) to one vps with a dedicated ip, and that they can't touch/see the rest of the vps machines or server. Is lxc for this? Or openVZ? What options should I look into?
[20:20] <bennyprofane> also you don't need a driving license to use a PC
[20:20] <phyrexianslug> Because using a PC incorrectly is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to kill anyone.
[20:20] <bennyprofane> precisely
[20:20] <phyrexianslug> Not to say that it's impossible however.
[20:20] <bennyprofane> haha
[20:21] <rsser> good point, bennyprofane. Before to lead with computer, get a php in science of computer
[20:21] <rsser> blah
[20:21] <bennyprofane> right
[20:21] <muelli> oh no. He said the P word...
[20:21] <bennyprofane> P?
[20:21] <unless__> dD
[20:21]  * Dr_willis has seen people who fail to understand the basics of 'cars' put Diesle Fuel in their Car......
[20:22] <ubuntu579> hello
[20:22] <rsser> you should thank other people haven't know about computer than you do. It would be bored a lot if everyone know about computers
[20:22] <ubuntu579> can someone help>?
[20:22]  * Dr_willis has seen people who fail to understand the basics of 'PC's try to save a 400mb file to a floppy disk.
[20:22] <ubuntu579> live cd ubuntu tells Initramfs Unable to find a medium with a file system
[20:23] <bennyprofane> I think the comparison doesn't work well, as we sort of have established
[20:23] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  did you check/verify the md5sum of the iso file after you downloaded it? did you also burn at the slowest speed possible. and verify the cd afterwards?
[20:23] <rsser> from their needs, Dr_willis, make your bussiness and you will be the next Gates!
[20:23] <ubuntu579> initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[20:23] <ubuntu579> yes
[20:23] <Dr_willis> is this a server, desktop, or what iso image exactly you put on cd?
[20:24] <phyrexianslug> http://askubuntu.com/questions/15425/unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-error-when-installing
[20:24] <ubuntu579> Dr_willis:  im using it in a netbook. but no linux version works on my dualcore 64 bits computer
[20:24] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 did you download the 64bit iso?
[20:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  Hmm... i only use 64bit machines and 64bit Linux these days.. no issues on these 5 machines.
[20:24] <bennyprofane> hardly anymore
[20:25] <Dr_willis> ubuntu579,  this is a cd or a live-usb/flash drive?
[20:25] <bennyprofane> there are still those problems e,g, with printer drivers
[20:25] <bennyprofane> but shouldn't be in newest OSs
[20:25] <wubino> How can I forward a locally accessible port to be externally accessible?: i.e. 8900 is accessible by localhost but not externally eventhough the firewall permits it to be
[20:25] <Dr_willis> be sort of weird that printer 'drivers' would be 64bit or 32bit dependant. :)
[20:25] <bennyprofane> they are
[20:26] <Dr_willis> wubino,  you are behind a router?
[20:26] <ubuntu579> its a good cd. it works im using it at the moment, but its cd version. i tried with usb,,, same error. 64 and the 32 bit version of ubuntu 12
[20:26] <ubuntu579> Dr_willis:
[20:26] <wubino> yes I am, but I am doing this work on an EC2 instance
[20:26] <ubuntu579> its a good cd. it works im using it at the moment,  but its cd version. i tried with usb,,, same error. 64 and the 32 bit version of ubuntu 12
[20:26] <ubuntu579> :(
[20:27] <Dr_willis> ive had differnent machines not like specific cds  - due to wear/goofyness in the optical drives.
[20:27] <ubuntu579> i tried many other cds.. usb drives and linux versions.. cant install
[20:27] <Dr_willis> sounds like deeper issues with the hardware to me. if radically differnt disrtos fail to work.
[20:28] <Dr_willis> test with TinyCoreLinux - its only like 10-40mb in size.. and loads totally into ram at bootup.
[20:28] <Dr_willis> if that also fails.. well. It really would sound like some hardware flakeyness to me.
[20:29] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis you know the section about chown only talks about ownership of files. For ownership of volumes (seems the one relevant for me) it refers to the fstab page...
[20:29] <andreb> quesiton
[20:30] <andreb> whats teh differnece between : cp -r -p and rsync -avH
[20:30] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  if you chown the mountpoint of the fstab, then the root of the filesystem gets owned by whoever.
[20:30] <Dr_willis> 'everything in linux is a file' is a  old timers phrase. :) even directories are special files.
[20:31] <wubino> ok how do I forward a remote port to a localport?
[20:31] <Dr_willis> wubino,  it sounds like the ec2 providers are blocking it. but ive never touched an EC2 thing.
[20:32] <Dr_willis> whats listening to port 8900 anyway?
[20:32] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 did you look at this page? http://askubuntu.com/questions/15425/unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-error-when-installing  it seems to suggest you should check your BIOS settings
[20:33] <wubino> 8900 is just out of the way, its for http access to a psuedo command line
[20:33] <ubuntu579> cant fix "(
[20:35] <OerHeks> ubuntu579, did you try an other usb port?
[20:35] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis, in chown, would I need to use the path, as in e.g. /media/LinuxData, or rather loaction, as in /dev/sdb2?
[20:35] <JoshuaP> What chmod command do I use to let a user be able to view and edit a file or directory?
[20:35] <Dr_willis>  you chown the mount POINT after its mounted bennyprofane   so the path.
[20:35] <bennyprofane> ubuntu579 do you know more or less what your BIOS is doing, Boot options, boot sequnce etc.
[20:36] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  or just make a directory on the filesystem and chown that and keep everything in it. :)
[20:37] <Dr_willis> thats how a home partition works.. each user has their own 'username' directory owned by them. they dont own the root of the filesystem
[20:37] <eamon> Does this video play in your browser? It works fine wen I download it but it won't play on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Downloading_pirated_films_is_stealing.ogg
[20:39] <aartist> How I can make installable USB stick  for ubuntu?
[20:39] <eamon> aartist unetbootin
[20:40] <Dr_willis> aartist,  the pendrivelinux website has numerous tools also.
[20:40] <Troy^> !usbinstall
[20:40] <aartist> Basically I like to install ubuntu in my friend's computer.., so that he can 1. try,  2. run from his computer.
[20:40] <eamon> unetbootin is what you want
[20:40] <Troy^> run from his computer? does it bite?
[20:41] <bennyprofane> the mount point is /media/LinuxData, ben is my user, so this should do it, right? ben@Ignaz-bodhi:/media$ sudo chown ben LinuxData
[20:41] <bennyprofane> properties tab still says owner is root though
[20:41] <JoshuaP> What chmod command do I use to let a user be able to view and edit a file or directory?
[20:41] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  i think you want ben:ben thedir
[20:41] <Dr_willis> then use ls -l to see
[20:42] <Troy^> JoshuaP: sudo chmod a+r
[20:42] <wubino> How can I make a portable Ubuntu USB stick that runs in windows?
[20:42] <eamon> JoseeAntonioR: sudo chmod 777
[20:42] <bennyprofane> I don't understand. could you give me the full command?
[20:42] <Troy^> eamon: 777 is never suggested
[20:42] <glady5> LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.15 for windows
[20:42] <Dr_willis> wubino,   you can make oen that boots into linux, but RUNNING in windows. you would need some virtual/vm/setup
[20:42] <aartist> Could some one please walk me in?
[20:43] <wubino> Dr_willis: Qemu
[20:43] <Troy^> JoshuaP: chmod 755 is usually sufficient
[20:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chown  bob:bob  /media/bobshome
[20:43] <Dr_willis> I think i got that right.
[20:43] <aartist> I am currently having ubuntu 12.04 and my friend will have windows Vista/7.
[20:43] <bennyprofane> 'thedir' means the full path? even if I'm already there in terminal?
[20:43] <Troy^> aarcane_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:43] <eamon> Troy^: 755 will only cover root
[20:44] <eamon> I mean JoshuaP
[20:44] <Troy^> eamon: well chown <uname>
[20:45] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/114625/how-to-change-ownership-for-an-external-hdd
[20:45] <Dr_willis> sudo chown -vR angstrem:angstrem /media/exthdd
[20:45] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis yay! it worked! thanks!
[20:45] <Dr_willis> but remeber this is not for vfat/ntfs
[20:45] <bennyprofane> awesome...
[20:45] <JoshuaP> eamon, what will let a user without sudo be able to read and write the file?
[20:46] <Dr_willis> when in doubt use the full path bennyprofane  :) just to be clear
[20:46] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis is permanent though? because that would be the whole point...
[20:46] <bennyprofane> *is it permanent
[20:46] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  the permissions are ON the fileysstem.. so yes.. its permemet
[20:46] <eamon> 777 will but it's insecure if your comy has many user accounts
[20:46] <bennyprofane> cool
[20:46] <eamon> JoshuaP
[20:46] <Dr_willis> if you moved that HD to a differnt linux box.. the ownerships would be the same.. and may  cause confusion  :)
[20:46] <eamon> *comp
[20:46] <Dr_willis> soyou would have to chown them to a useable user again
[20:48] <JoshuaP> eamon, Yes?
[20:48] <eamon>  777 will but it's insecure if your comy has many user accounts
[20:48] <eamon> *comp
[20:48] <JoshuaP> thanks
[20:49] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis will keep that in mind in case I decide to 1. dump this old PC and 2. re-use the HDD for an NAS I don't have yet - but In that case I'd wipe and reformat the HDD anyway, so this problem is unlikely I gues...
[20:50] <Dr_willis> for a NAS - they can have their own quirks. :)
[20:50] <Dr_willis> ive moved USB hds around from linux box to nas and so forth. and had to fix ownership on many an occasion.
[20:51] <bennyprofane> aartist you need 1. the ISO of your new Ubuntu, checksummed 2. a pendrive, wiped and formatted to FAT and 3. a tool for mounting the ISO to the pendrive. You have all these yet?
[20:52] <bennyprofane> Dr_willis this HDD is internal, don't intend to move it unless my pc goes down for good
[20:53] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: about what files in what directory are you asking?
[20:54] <JoshuaP> atheme files
[20:54] <JoshuaP> Like services db and the whole etc dir of etheme
[20:54] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[20:55] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: why should a normal user be able to write there?
[20:55] <guntbert_> !who | JoshuaP
[20:56] <Smackbook> i'm trying to write a script involving this "ping router | grep icmp_req | cut -d'=' -f4" to just get the latency, but it doesn't output anything, then i do "ping router -c10 | grep icmp_req | cut -d'=' -f4" and realize ping is only piping data out after it finishes, and so unlimited count never outputs.  am I doing something wrong ? why isn't ping piping realtime?  I could swear this was working the other day
[20:56] <JoshuaP> guntbert_, it's a user that I switched the directory over to and I'm tryingto give that user read/write privs for it
[20:58] <rgenito_> sadly, i am not enjoying ubuntu 12.04 on my ultrabook ;(
[20:58] <rgenito_> it is most likely my own fault! sooo i has a question
[20:58] <guntbert_> JoshuaP: if the directory and the files are owned by that user then 755 is completely sufficient (as some other process will need to read there...)
[20:59] <rgenito_> ALL i did on this ultrabook was change /etc/resolv.conf's "nameserver" address (because for the location i was at... the DNS information supplied by the wireless router was incorrect)
[20:59] <rgenito_> of course, that file is fine now since it is auto generated
[20:59] <rgenito_> however, my wireless access gets disconnected often. and then after about 2 minutes it reconnects. this is very bothersome
[20:59] <rgenito_> this happens on ALL wireless networks that i have been on (4 separate ones so far)
[20:59] <rgenito_> any ideas what's going on?
[21:00] <rgenito_> it's definitely a software issue, or at least it is hopefully NOT a physical hardware issue with this ultrabook :)
[21:00] <bennyprofane> :-(  Dr_willis! It's not working!
[21:00] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: sounds like the driver
[21:00] <bennyprofane> I forgot to explain what this was all about initially
[21:00] <bennyprofane> ...bcs I actually forgot it
[21:01] <bennyprofane> I need Dropbox to get access to that partition
[21:01] <bennyprofane> I want to place my Dropbox folder there, so it's gonna need r/w access
[21:02] <Troy^> is there a package that installs apache2, php5 and mysql? is it lamp-server?
[21:02] <ThinkT510> !lamp | Troy^
[21:04] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  your dropbox tools run as the user. so if the user has permissions then any apps they run should. UNLESS theres some limition in dropbox to not follow links, or mountpoints
[21:04] <Advocated> i assume, for a cronjob that shows: 0 20 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php  it means 8pm, 15th and 17th?  so if i wanted it to run at 11pm too, it'd be: 0 20,23 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php... ?
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  if the ownership/modes are the same as your users home then they should have same rights there as they do their own home. You could even Put their home on that new filesystem
[21:05] <bennyprofane> Dropbox says target folder is read only
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  or mount the filesystem to /home/yourusername/whatever
[21:05] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  can you write to it in other ways?
[21:05] <astronaute> hello all
[21:05] <bennyprofane> yes
[21:05] <Dr_willis> so sounds like dropbox is confused. and may need to be restarted
[21:05] <bennyprofane> I can for instance create/rename files and folders in File manager
[21:06] <bennyprofane> it wasn't running
[21:06] <astronaute> can someone please tell me how to set env variable in ubuntu so it is available after reboot?
[21:06] <bennyprofane> *Dropbox I attempted to set it up after chwoning
[21:06] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  for a user, you can put it in their .bashrc or .profile
[21:07] <bennyprofane> maybe a reboot...?
[21:07] <Dr_willis> bennyprofane,  i dont use dropbox so no idea what its limits/or bugs may be
[21:07] <Dr_willis> I tend to use UbuntuOne
[21:07] <bennyprofane> I'll just reboot real quick
[21:07] <rgenito_> sooo, i wrote a message earlier about how my wifi kept disconnecting and reconnecting...
[21:07] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: sounds like the driver
[21:07] <rgenito_> did anyone happen to see that? :D (i got disconnected immediately)
[21:07] <rgenito_> ahhh
[21:08] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, so i believe all i can do is just run the package updater...and hope that works. right? ;(
[21:08] <Troy^> rgenito_: i prepose it is a realtek chipset
[21:08] <astronaute> Dr_willis do I put it in a block near PATH definition in .profile or else ?
[21:09] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: what wireless do you have?
[21:09] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  depends on the details. could go at the end of the file.
[21:09] <rgenito_> (hopefully these packages download before i get disconnected again...or else i'll have to uncheck many items in the updater before i continue...)
[21:09] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, i'm not sure...whatever wireless that came with this Vizio ultrabook
[21:09] <astronaute> Dr_willis it is for my rails development, unrelated to OS I just need it to be available from command line
[21:09] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: lspci
[21:10] <rgenito_> ah sweet, thanks ThinkT510  :) i'll pastie this
[21:10] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  .bashrc or .profile get read on each new shell launching.. i forget which.. i jump around to many versions/disrtos to be sure what ones the best. but  at the end of the bash init scripts should work fine
[21:11] <astronaute> Dr_willis /etc/environment maybe?
[21:11] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  that would be for ALL users.. which may be overkill
[21:11] <rgenito_> http://pastie.org/private/rwgyp3iazasu1lbetcfmeg
[21:11] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, i don't see anything relating to the wireless device on there
[21:11] <astronaute> Dr_willis I see, I'll play a bit with it, thank you
[21:12] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter
[21:12] <rgenito_> whoops,
[21:12] <rgenito_> missed that absolute last one :)
[21:12] <aartist> as
[21:12] <aartist> benonsoftware: I found pendrive, have iso. What is the mounting software?
[21:13] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53711/how-to-define-an-environment-variable-systemwide-with-etc-environment astronaute
[21:13] <rgenito_> i am noticing that after i force rebooted my machine... (unity hung) my wireless has been pretty stable...
[21:13] <rgenito_> usually it would disconnect by now
[21:13] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: what version is your kernel at? uname -a
[21:13] <aartist> How do I mount ubuntu iso on pen drive ?
[21:13] <xangua> !usb | aartist
[21:13] <rgenito_> i JUST got back into the linux world as a desktop system. i told myself it'd be a long time before i did that... not sure if linux is ready
[21:13] <rgenito_> ThinkT510,  3.2.0-23-generic
[21:14] <Dr_willis> aartist,  with some of the various tools - like unetbootin, or lili, or the ubuntu drive tool.. or some of the many at the pendrivelinux web site
[21:14] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: update, 3.2.0-30 is the latest
[21:14] <Advocated> i assume, for a cronjob that shows: 0 20 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php  it means 8pm, 15th and 17th?  so if i wanted it to run at 11pm too, it'd be: 0 20,23 15-17 * * /usr/bin/php... ?
[21:16] <aartist> I have unetbootin and have .iso image as well. What should be my next step to put installable linux on usb stick ?
[21:16] <rgenito_> ThinkT510, thanks :)
[21:16] <Dr_willis> aartist,  err... run unetbootin..
[21:16] <sticky1> Hello folks. Completely new to Ubuntu as it comes to MIDI. How do I make my XMIDI1x1 MIDI - USB adapter work with Xubuntu 12.04? I tried to figure out myself but it seemed aconnect was installed but gave me an error while listing MIDI devices
[21:16] <ThinkT510> rgenito_: no worries :)
[21:16] <rgenito_> btw, does anyone know of a unity key-shortcut to activate the "workspace switcher"?
[21:17] <Dr_willis> rgenito_,  press and hold the super key to see a UNITY key shortcut cheat sheet.
[21:17] <Dr_willis> Not on unity so i cant look at it here. ;)
[21:17] <rgenito_> "super" key?
[21:17] <Dr_willis> Top overlooked feature of unity
[21:17] <rgenito_> oooh
[21:17] <rgenito_> nice
[21:17] <rgenito_> i guessed "super" was windows/apple
[21:18] <Dr_willis> They really need to make a 'tip of the day' type thing :)
[21:18] <Dr_willis> way to many people never notice that feature
[21:18] <rgenito_> hehe
[21:18] <rgenito_> ya
[21:18] <sticky1> Does anyone of you work with MIDI in Ubuntu?
[21:18] <rgenito_> and that's pretty aweesome
[21:18] <codysmith> hey guys i need help
[21:18] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[21:18] <rgenito_> they should do what apple did: make a video showing off the features
[21:18] <rgenito_> ...and put it on their homepage
[21:18] <FloodBot1> rgenito_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <Dr_willis> super = cheat sheet. tap alt = the HUD,  the DASH is on.. err.. i forget.
[21:18] <rgenito_> HUD is pretty sweet. i like the name too ;)
[21:19] <Dr_willis> Youtube  has a lot of the examples/tips
[21:19] <codysmith> can someone help me
[21:19] <rgenito_> i wish there was a key combination to input a terminal command ;)
[21:19] <ThinkT510> Dr_willis: dash is super, hold super is the cheat cheat
[21:19] <ThinkT510> sheet
[21:19] <Dr_willis> rgenito_,  thats alt-f2 i thought
[21:19] <rgenito_> Dr_willis, of course, google search has a lot of stuff alone. i dont want the sea of crap on youtube and google tho
[21:19] <sticky1> Nvm, I will return when it's a bit less busy here
[21:19] <rgenito_> that's why it'd be a nice idea for ubuntu to help their community :) i cannot help cause i'm at a low unity level :D
[21:20] <Dr_willis> sticky1,  i find that not a lot of peopel work with midi at all these days.
[21:20] <sticky1> Dr_willis: why?
[21:20] <sticky1> I am a musician
[21:20] <Dr_willis> sticky1,  thres the Ubuntu-studio channels that may have more musicians
[21:20] <sticky1> ok
[21:20] <rgenito_> sticky1, yes, MIDI is still very very commonly used in the music industry. MIDI isn't going to die ... probably never.
[21:20] <sticky1> is there a channel for studio?
[21:20] <stercor> How can I keep the disk reformat from happening on Ubuntu installation?
[21:21] <sticky1> stercor: Advanced installation
[21:21] <sticky1> Dr_willis: is there a separate channel for Studio?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> !studio
[21:22] <stercor> sticky1: Thanks!  Back to the installation.
[21:22] <captainjacksparr> hi, the dist upgrade has reset my resolution settings, the desktop resolution is fine, xorg.conf already the right settings, but the login screen just doesn't cares... it has its own ways it seems.... you know where to set it?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> seems its #ubuntustudio ;)
[21:22] <sticky1> stercor: Np
[21:22] <astronaute> Dr_willis /etc/environment works like a charm, problem fixed! :)
[21:23] <Dr_willis> captainjacksparr,  theres a way i saw once to run the monitors config tool as the lightdm user to tweak it a little.. but i cant recall how to do it off hand.
[21:23] <Dr_willis> astronaute,  thats system wide also. for all users.
[21:23] <aartist> Dr_willis: yeh, I am running it..I have also copied .. the iso file to pen drive.. does that help ?
[21:24] <Dr_willis> aartist,  you do not just copy the .iso to the pendrive like you would a picture file...
[21:24] <Dr_willis> it wont be bootable.
[21:24] <astronaute> Dr_willis yes, thats fine it is a VM for local development
[21:24] <GCW2012> Anyone with knowledge about ITE IT6610 HDMI or Vivante GC860 GPU driver or code knowledge...
[21:25] <aartist> Dr_willis: unetbootin finished the proccess. that means, my pen drive is ready?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> aartist,  i would think so..
[21:25] <Dr_willis> boot it and see
[21:31] <faLUCE2> hi. How can I see how many usb controllers has my laptop? with lsusb I see 6 usb HUBs ....
[21:32] <TJ-> faLUCE2: "lspci -nn | grep USB"
[21:33] <faLUCE2> TJ-: I can see six controllers... does it mean that they are 6 indipendent usb channels?
[21:34] <Troy^> faLUCE2: right but there is different buses.. how many usb inputs do you have? the system may have extra used for things such as webcam etc.
[21:34] <faLUCE2> briefly: I need to connect two webcams to my pc. but they suck much usb bandwidth. I need to connect them both
[21:34] <TJ-> faLUCE2: A controller can have more than one port... and 2 controllers can share the same ports. E.g. an UHCI (USB1) and an EHCI (USB2) controller
[21:35] <L1> Any ideas why this simple bash script isn't working?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207735/    In the txt file I get "start    statusVar-    stop"
[21:35] <MrPopinjay> Heya, I have a problem
[21:35] <TJ-> faLUCE2: When controllers share ports, when you connect a USB2 device the EHCI will claim the port
[21:35] <pc> anyone whois me ?
[21:35] <Troy^> L1: #bash
[21:35] <faLUCE2> TJ-: ok, I have 4 ports.
[21:35] <muelli> L1: You can run with "bash -x" to get a debug like output. Helps me a lot during debugging bash scripts.
[21:36] <TJ-> L1: When you want to refer to the contents of a variable, you must prefix its name with the dollar symbol
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> I just installed 12.04, opened the software centre and attempted to log in. I put in my email and software centre password but the keyring pops up saying "the password you use to log in to your coputer no longer matches that of your login keyring"
[21:36] <L1> Troy^, muelli, thanks
[21:36] <faLUCE2> given that there are 6 controllers, does it mean that I can connect two webcams?
[21:36] <L1> TJ- I have, haven't I?
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> and then asks me for my password, I have no idea what password it wants. Neither the one for the software centre or for my login works.
[21:36] <MrPopinjay> Ideas?
[21:36] <Troy^> faLUCE2: you should be fine
[21:37] <faLUCE2> thnks
[21:37] <TJ-> L1: Sorry, I misread! Are you expecting to see the output from "service mysql status" ?
[21:38] <faLUCE2> ok, but how can I see to which port I have to connect the two cameras?
[21:38] <L1> Yes, I am... hang on. It just ran fine when I executed the script manually. I have cron triggering it every minute, and that's not working, but I just tried bash -x my_script.sh and the if statment evaluated correctly
[21:38] <L1> So I think it's a cron setup problem :) Thanks for your help
[21:39] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[21:39] <ThePendulum> Is it possible to hide a bunch of files with a certain extension using a .hidden file for Nautilus?
[21:39] <TJ-> L1: you need to set a shebang line as line 1 :  "#!/bin/bash"
[21:40] <L1> TJ- Thanks, I'll give that a go
[21:40] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  im not sure it has that feature any more.. they tried somthing like that ages ago.. and everyone hated it. ;)
[21:40] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[21:40] <Dr_willis> !hide
[21:40] <TJ-> L1: otherwise, unless you actually pass the script name to a shell command, the system doesn't know how to deal with it. You'll also need to make the script executable "chmod +x <filename>"
[21:40] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  with a file manager like 'mc' its doable.
[21:40] <ThePendulum> Dr_willis: Well, the .hidden file works, and I don't see how such functionality can possibly be hated
[21:40] <stercor> I'm installing 11.10 to upgrade to 12.10LTS.  Is 'Advanced Installation' available to 11.10?  If so, how do I get to it.  There's 'Expert mode' on the initial screen, but I can't seem to get it to 'take.' by pressing the correct key.
[21:41] <Dr_willis> ThePendulum,  you mean the use of a . at the start of a file?
[21:41] <ThePendulum> That's a bit impractical, there are a lot of files and I'm afraid that the media center (the device that created all those files) won't recognize them anymore with a '.'
[21:42] <Dr_willis>  .files are not really hidden.. its just a common practice for  apps to not display them by default unless they have a setting.
[21:42] <Dr_willis> set to show them
[21:43] <MrPopinjay> I just installed 12.04, opened the software centre and attempted to log in. I put in my email and software centre password but the keyring pops up saying "the password you use to log in to your coputer no longer matches that of your login keyring"
[21:43] <MrPopinjay> and then asks me for my password, I have no idea what password it wants. Neither the one for the software centre or for my login works.
[21:43] <Dr_willis> .files = any file with a . as the first character of the name. ;)
[21:44] <ThePendulum> Dr_willis: I know that, but you're still renaming the file which causes some applications/devices not to recognize it at all (for it only knows the filename without the .)
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> They'd have to be!
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> oh, well, I can't be excellent at /everything/.
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> you arn't excellent at anything
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> so...
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <SupaDupa> what now?
[21:45] <JonathanDoe> [2:42pm] <gmaxwell> Are you really this lonely? Get a dog or something.
[21:45] <FloodBot1> JonathanDoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <osmosis> any suggestions how I can get a newere version of 'revelation' in ubuntu precise. the include one is old and has a bug
[21:47] <Dr_willis> osmosis,  ppa's or backports, or source  are the common ways
[21:48] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[21:48] <L1> Allright, so still haven't got it working. When I run my script from the teminal (bash my_script.sh) it works fine (echos "statusVar- mysql stop/waiting"). However when cron is running it, the variable is not getting a value set. (echos "statusVar- ")
[21:49] <Dr_willis> instead of bash myscript.sh    you tried  making a #!/bin/bash  line at the start so it always uses bash?
[21:50] <L1> Dr_willis: Yep, I added that to line 1
[21:50] <Dr_willis> then if its executable, you shouldent need 'bash foo.sh'
[21:51] <L1> I think it might be something to do with path not being correct? E.g. the "service mysql status" isn't being found when run from crontab perhaps?
[21:51] <Dr_willis> when in doubt. use full paths
[21:51] <Dr_willis> or set thepath at the start of the script
[21:52] <TJ-> L1: Where precisely are you defining the task for cron?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> i dident think cron scripts/tasks normally printed messages...
[21:52] <L1> Dr_willis: thanks, I'll keep bash-ing away at it
[21:52] <L1> TJ- I'm doing "crontab -e"
[21:53] <TJ-> L1:  and does the user running the script have privileges to run 'service' ?
[21:53] <L1> Dr_willis, TJ- Working great now! Thanks for all you rhelp. I added "PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin" in my crontab right before this cron
[21:54] <TJ-> L1: when you run a script as a user the shell doesn't do a log-in unless you tell it too, so there's a very minimal environment, not including a PATH
[21:54] <L1> I see
[21:54] <L1> Good to know
[22:03] <domtron> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop(hp pavilion g7 64bit). after booting into the first menu the entire screen turns off, after some searching the keyboard brightness controls fix that problem, but after I choose "install" or "try first" there is 15-20 minutes where there is a decent amount of noise(hard drive?) and it shows the purple red-ish background but then it goes black(though I can still see and move the mouse)
[22:04] <matterbu1> x
[22:04] <eins11> hit f6 in boot menu and try nomodeset
[22:06] <domtron> eins11: are you refering to grub or bios, because grub is not installed yet
[22:07] <jack_> ciao
[22:08] <ghis> hi
[22:08] <eins11> i mean in the menu where you can choose install or try first...
[22:08] <jack_> ok
[22:10] <cortexman> I have a couple of Xine questions: 1) is there a keyboard shortcut for rewinding? 2) when I rewind with the gui it automatically starts playing, how do I stop this?
[22:11] <osmosis> where do I go to request a newer version of a package be made available?
[22:12] <krababbel> osmosis: you can file a bug for it
[22:12] <TJ-> osmosis: Usually file a bug against the package requesting sync with Debian
[22:14] <domtron> eins11: there was some red text that had a number in [] then said bad target number and now it's at the purple-ish red screen but there isn't any install window...
[22:16] <Randm> was network installing removed from ubuntu?  trying to do remote installs with cobbler.
[22:16] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to make this : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491   But when I type "./build" I've this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207811/     Any idea ?
[22:19] <Ecki> GN8
[22:22] <niadh> Can someone help with some finer details of setting up XBMC, I have the software autostarting, picking up my files and I can control it via my andriod phone, however for some reason it wont download addons or even be able to access the xbmc site, however another laptop on the same network CAN access the site.
[22:24] <niadh> I can't even get a list of available addons from within the XBMC application itself, I did have this working earlier this evening, but addons never appeared to install so after hosing my config and starting again I couldn't even access the website from firefox for some reason
[22:26] <macmartine> I'm trying to get postfix and dovecot running. I had it working, but I inadvertently unstapled some packages. This is the output of ehlo to my mail server: https://gist.github.com/3730109 -- where can i find more info on the bad syntax error?
[22:27] <jrib> macmartine: "unstapled"?
[22:27] <ougogo> Hi all, I try to make this : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=8928491#p8928491   But when I type "./build" I've this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1207811/     Any idea ?
[22:27] <macmartine> jrib: heh, auto-correct. uninstalled
[22:27] <jrib> macmartine: unless you purged the packages, configs shouldn't have been removed
[22:28] <macmartine> jrib: ok, but i still can't figure out why it's not working now then
[22:29] <niadh> Any ideas why I can access the xbmc site on one machine but not the other? Both machines are on the same network and the machine that can't reach it can't ping it, but can reach any other site I try
[22:29] <jrib> macmartine: you may want to try the channels for the particular tool you are having trouble configuring
[22:30] <TJ-> macmartine: which kernel version are you building against?
[22:30] <urgodfather> hello room
[22:31] <macmartine> TJ- : 11.10
[22:31] <wade> Hello
[22:31] <urgodfather> can someone try to help me figure out why the system hangs on reboot
[22:31] <urgodfather> i have a clean install
[22:32] <TJ-> macmartine: The symbol "dev_dbg_ratelimited" wasn't added to the kernel until v3.5
[22:33] <wade> @urgodfather...may need to repartition and reinstall
[22:33] <macmartine> TJ-: Huh? Did I use that somewhere?
[22:33] <TJ-> macmartine: Look at the build log you pasted
[22:34] <trism> TJ-: ougogo ^^
[22:34] <macmartine> TJ-: I think you've got the wrong guy
[22:34] <urgodfather> wade, its a clean install with only 2 partitions... \ and swap
[22:34] <TJ-> macmartine: I apologise... I think my eyes mis-scanned!
[22:35] <TJ-> ougogo: : The symbol "dev_dbg_ratelimited" wasn't added to the kernel until v3.5. If you're going to build the latest linuxtv you need to build against a very recent kernel too, if not the current linux head
[22:36] <Dr_willis> failing to reboot could be some apci/power management issue.
[22:36] <TJ-> macmartine: For postfix. Check its 'recommends' and make sure they're installed
[22:36] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: any way to fix?
[22:37] <macmartine> TJ-: Ok, thanks. How do I do that? :/
[22:37] <wade> @urgodfather...fraid I wouldn't be much help at the advanced stuff. Can you get in debug mode?
[22:38] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  no idea. Its not going to be related to yoyu having just 2 partitions. but more of a chipset/bios related
[22:38] <urgodfather> wade: how to? never needed nor tried before
[22:39] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: if it matters any, i had a clean install of xp on earlier and did not have any issues
[22:39] <wade> @urgodfather...are you running a dual boot?
[22:39] <urgodfather> Dr_willis: leads me to believe software related vs hardware
[22:39] <gogeta> urgodfather: xp lol
[22:39] <urgodfather> wade: negative
[22:40] <TJ-> macmartine: You can check using "apt-cache show postfix | egrep '(Depends|Recommends|Suggests)'"
[22:40] <gogeta> urgodfather: what was the linux issue
[22:40] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  xp has the  the support of the HW makers to do things  just right. things the hw makers may not disclose to the Kernel devs
[22:40] <urgodfather> gogetta unfortunately samsungs ssd tool only works in winblows
[22:40] <TJ-> macmartine: When you got that 500 error... were you telnet-ing manually to the SMTP server?
[22:40] <Dr_willis> urgodfather,  so its a matter of  apci bugs in the kernel because the bios makers love to make up their own standards..
[22:40] <gogeta> Dr_willis: like the latest atom prosser ibm whent windows happy with it
[22:40] <gogeta> Dr_willis: intel lol i said ibm
[22:40] <urgodfather> gogetta hangs on reboot
[22:41] <wade> @urgodfather...on mine it gives me a boot screen on startup but I'm set up on a dual boot
[22:41] <gogeta> urgodfather: lots of things can hang is it after it has done everything
[22:41] <TJ-> urgodfather: Reboot immediately after installing?
[22:42] <urgodfather> gogetta it hangs as it is kill modules
[22:42] <urgodfather> TJ-: same issue
[22:42] <urgodfather> had to hard reset
[22:42] <gogeta> urgodfather: even if something does not kill it should movw along it sound like apm isnt sending the reboot command to bios
[22:43] <TJ-> urgodfather: No, I meant... is this a hang immediately after installing, or does this happen after a regular system boot well after it was installed?
[22:43] <macmartine> TJ- yes
[22:43] <gogeta> urgodfather: relly if its that far along nothing bad should happond doing a hard reboot
[22:43] <urgodfather> TJ-:  cold boots fine... reboot hang.. havent tried normal shutdown
[22:44] <TJ-> macmartine: The 500 may have been your using the incorrect syntax. What precisely did you send it for the EHLO ?
[22:44] <Costeelation> hi guys, someone know the command for i know if my cpu support 64bits? thanks
[22:44] <macmartine> TJ- https://gist.github.com/3730186
[22:45] <urgodfather> gogeta: not concerned with doing hard reboot... im a pc tech.. i get new pc's all the time
[22:45] <macmartine> TJ- though the bad syntax message came after pressing enter
[22:45] <gogeta> Costeelation: any core serise does
[22:45] <TJ-> macmartine: I think that 500 error is caused by bad postfix config. You get a 250 for the EHLO
[22:45] <TJ-> macmartine: I'd be having postfix check the config
[22:45] <Costeelation> how?
[22:46] <davetarmac> hey guys
[22:46] <rgenito_> strange... since i updated ubuntu 12, now my trackpad isn't as responsive. when i "tap" the pad, it doesn't always register a click. of course, this is super annoying...any idea how i can get the default trackpad driver back for ubuntu?
[22:46] <rgenito_> or any other ideas?
[22:46] <davetarmac> I wonder if you can help, I've installed phpmyadmin (sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin) and run through the config for it, but when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin, I get a 404
[22:47] <urgodfather> Costeelation: uname -a
[22:47] <gogeta> Costeelation: tell us the prosser serise and we can tell you pretty quick
[22:47] <urgodfather> if its an atom you have 50/50 chance
[22:47] <sambagirl> anyone familiar here with novo builder?
[22:48] <Costeelation> gogeta: yes i know but i have a ubuntu 32bit  but i will want know if my cpu support 64bit
[22:48] <gogeta> urgodfather: n270 atom where not 64bit dispite what linux thinks
[22:48] <gogeta> Costeelation: tell us the cpu
[22:48] <urgodfather> really?
[22:48] <gogeta> urgodfather: later models where the dual cores etc
[22:48] <Costeelation> gogeta: i5
[22:49] <gogeta> Costeelation: yes its 64bit
[22:49] <Costeelation> gogeta: thanks so much :)
[22:49] <gogeta> Costeelation: all i serise are
[22:51] <rgenito_> what port does one use to connect via SSL on freenode?
[22:51] <urgodfather> gogeta the atom n450 is 64
[22:51] <DiscipleOfDante> Hello Can someone help me out? I am trying to run PlayOnLinux and everytime I start it I get a complaint "Missing 32-bit openGL libraries" I have an ATI card using the open source drivers.
[22:52] <TJ-> Costeelation: " grep  flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep -q lm && echo "CPU supports 64-bit"  "
[22:52] <gogeta> urgodfather: yep
[22:52] <gogeta> urgodfather: i said n270 was not
[22:52] <DiscipleOfDante> I know I need a package for it but I do not know what package it is in Ubuntu. Does anyone know what it is called in Ubuntu?
[22:53] <KorvinSzanto> is there something similar to gtkpod that doesn't crash under 12.04?
[22:53] <gogeta> urgodfather: first genration atoms not that there was mutch of a diffrence
[22:53] <KorvinSzanto> I'm trying to export an ipod 80g video
[22:53] <Spamicles> My Asus 1201n won't suspend properly (screen goes dark but power button remains solid instead of blinking). I have to cycle power to get it come back on. I only found solutions from previous Ubuntu versions which included updating to a more current kernel (now an older kernel). Is there anything I can try to fix this?
[22:54] <urgodfather> yep, thats what this has... 1st gen atom
[22:54] <TJ-> Spamicles: Examine /var/log/kern.log  for the time you suspend. It'll report any process or kernel module that couldn't suspend
[22:54] <urgodfather> brb gonna test normal shutdown function
[22:54] <gogeta> urgodfather: lol you got a eeepc 900a?
[22:54] <demonoid_com> hello to all
[22:55] <demonoid_com> i need know if i install ubuntu 10.04  and upadate
[22:55] <sambagirl> is there anything more curernt than novo builder?
[22:55] <demonoid_com> what kind of difference will have
[22:56] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com compared to what?
[22:56] <demonoid_com> with ubuntu 12.04?
[22:56] <Spamicles> TJ-, im not sure the last time i tried this. so maybe try to suspend now, cycle power, then look there?
[22:56] <demonoid_com> i like old gnome on ubuntu 10.04
[22:56] <TJ-> Spamicles: or, start a terminal and do "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and watch carefully
[22:56] <demonoid_com> but the new ubuntu have gnome 3
[22:56] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com If i'm not completely wrong I think you can have the old one aswell in 12.04. Somoene confirm?
[22:57] <macmartine> TJ- actually things seem to be working. i just a test email. only thing now is that mac mail isn't connecting with the old settings. there must be some configs that need to be reset for dovecot?
[22:58] <demonoid_com> Cheapshot mmm haven't
[22:58] <rajnish> hello everybody
[22:59] <TJ-> macmartine: possibly - make sure the authentication is working. check the log files in /var/log/
[22:59] <rajnish> can anyone help me to setup a mailserver and deployment also
[22:59] <wyominggeezer> If an Ubuntu workstation (12.04 ver) is logged out, is it possible to log in remotely?
[22:59] <rajnish> thanks in advance
[22:59] <Dr_willis> demonoid_com,  you wont keep the old gnome.. if thats what you are trying to do.
[23:00] <Dr_willis> gnome2 is dead.. time to bury it. ;P
[23:00] <Cheapshot> wyominggeezer Do you mean a vnc connection or ssh?
[23:01] <faLUCE> hi. I'm pretty sure that the os mounts an usb 2.0 device as an usb 1.0 one. It's an usb camera. How can I check that, before trying to solve?
[23:01] <urgodfather> gogeta, Dr_willis, system shuts down fine and boots back fine... seems to just be a hang on the reboot command
[23:01] <Cheapshot> wyominggeezer You can always login with ssh remotely if its enabled
[23:01] <Led_Zeppelin> not sure if anyone notices but recently chrome has been getting slower and slower.
[23:01] <urgodfather> Led_Zeppelin: how so?
[23:01] <Led_Zeppelin> urgodfather, like. its something at 100% just freezes.
[23:02] <wyominggeezer> I've tried both vnc and ssh and both report server not found until I log into the workstation locally. After that, my other system can find it.
[23:02] <Spamicles> TJ-, ok thanks im going to try it out
[23:02] <demonoid_com> Dr_willis:yes i wont keep the old gnome :)
[23:02] <urgodfather> Led_Zeppelin: never had that problem and i install chrome on 5-10 systems per day
[23:02] <rajnish> please help me to setup mail server
[23:02] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: is it configured with networking connections for all-users, or per-user?
[23:03] <wyominggeezer> TJ: where do I look for that?
[23:03] <TJ-> rajnish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[23:04] <urgodfather> hey whats the channel for freenode support
[23:04] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: As you mentioned VNC that implies you're using the GUI to log-in. When logged-in, the Network Manager applet configures the network connections. For each connection there's a tick-box to enable a connection for "All users" - if that wasn't ticked, I can imagine once you log-out that networking wouldn't be available and thus no remote connections
[23:05] <davetarmac> Anyone know how to get phpmyadmin working on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:05] <urgodfather> nevermind i got it
[23:05] <davetarmac> Done apt-get install and that seemed to work, but can't reach it at localhost/phpmyadmin in a browser
[23:05] <KorvinSzanto>  /join #gtkpod
[23:05] <davetarmac> just receiving a 404 then
[23:06] <Cheapshot> demonoid_com Not sure if you've tried but you can always use the classic gnome on the 12.04 not the unify, not the same as gnome 2.0 but its something
[23:06] <TJ-> davetarmac: I would imagine you might also need to ensure apache2 has it in its /sites-enabled/ directory
[23:06] <davetarmac> TJ-: thanks
[23:06] <KorvinSzanto> Is there any fix for gtkpod on 12.04?
[23:06] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: demonoid is down
[23:07] <davetarmac> TJ-: how do I find that? :)
[23:07] <Cheapshot> urgodfather ah.. I just turned off the j/ part messages :D
[23:07] <TJ-> davetarmac: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[23:07] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: my bad i see demonoid_com is a user
[23:07] <urgodfather> lol
[23:08] <wyominggeezer> TJ: I checked and "Available to all users" is checked
[23:08] <davetarmac> TJ-: all I have in there is 000-default
[23:08] <Cheapshot> urgodfather Well that makes sense since I tabbed his nick :) was wondering how it could have happened
[23:08] <TJ-> davetarmac: I'm assuming you configured it to work with apache2 during installation?
[23:08] <davetarmac> TJ-: I never got the prompt
[23:09] <davetarmac> TJ-: Is there a way to remove it fully and start over?
[23:09] <shihan> from memory a few days ago, phpmyadmin doesnt actually use the sites-enabled mechanism iirc
[23:09] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: OK, that sounds like that may not be the issue. Next thing - to ensure there is a network connection - is to start a 'ping <hostname>' to the server from one of your other PCs, then log-out of the server and see if the ping dies. If it does, you know there's a network issue with it disconnecting
[23:10] <TJ-> davetarmac: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low phpmyadmin"
[23:10] <urgodfather> Cheapshot: yeah, unfortunately the site is down... dunno if you were aware... but anonymous swore revenge for it
[23:11] <davetarmac> ahh - shiny screens :)
[23:11] <TJ-> davetarmac: something useful happening?
[23:12] <davetarmac> TJ-: seems to be
[23:12] <TJ-> davetarmac: good
[23:12] <davetarmac> Do I want to use unix socket or tcp/ip for the conection method?
[23:13] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, I logged out the remote machine and then did PING from my desk to the remote machine. PINGS OK
[23:13] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: so you have network. Are you trying to connect remotely using VNC to the GUI?
[23:13] <wyominggeezer> TJ: yes
[23:14] <Spamicles> TJ-, so i tried suspending without closing the lid using a pm-suspend, but the computer wakes back up. this is the tail of my kern.log if you don't mind helping me figure out what it means: http://pastebin.com/aEzcWjvr
[23:14] <davetarmac> TJ-: gone through all that, set it all up and it's still returning a 404 page :(
[23:14] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: I've not used VNC in ages (I use SSH) but I do recall in some configurations logging-out would cause the vnc daemon to close if it was started per-user... someone else might be able to help you narrow that down. I'd start by checking the logs in /var/log/ .... maybe syslog and auth.log
[23:14] <Randm> is there a way of doing network installs with ubuntu and cobbler?  I did cobbler import on the image, but the installer is saying the cdrom could not be found (makes sense), but doesn't prompt me for any networking setup so I could do a http/whatever based install.
[23:15] <TJ-> davetarmac: How are you accessing the web-page? from a different PC or the same one that is running apache2?
[23:15] <davetarmac> TJ-: same PC
[23:15] <Cheapshot> TJ- WOuldnt you need a script to start the vnc daemon automatically during bootup?
[23:16] <sevenforall> I've tried Ubuntu on a dozen PCs and several completely different self-built PCs, but everything keeps working just fine. I looked it up on the internet and I'm supposed to get a lot of compatability issues and agonizing UI elements. What am I doing wrong?
[23:16] <KorvinSzanto> how can I clear the settings from gtkpod?
[23:16] <TeslaTony> I'm trying to add a PGP key for an Apt repository via command line, and no matter what I seem to try, it doesn't work. Any help?
[23:16] <davetarmac> I know apache2 is running because I am accessing a Symfony config locally and that is all php and what-not
[23:17] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, I'll sniff around. When I have tried SSH, even when the remote machine is logged in, all I get is an error telling me the connection was closed. Never has worked on that box BUT, I think, it worked on another box. So, I may have something not setup correctly.
[23:17] <TJ-> Cheapshot: I assumed it starts as a system service like everything else - does it not do that?
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> davetarmac, that doesn't mean that apache is running
[23:17] <DiscipleOfDante> Anyone?
[23:17] <Cheapshot> As i remember from the days using vnc connection, i would have to first connect via ssh and start the x11vnc before I could login
[23:17] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: For ssh you must install the server "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[23:17] <KorvinSzanto> davetarmac, run sudo service apache2 status
[23:17] <ben1u> hello, if I want to stop mount new usb sticks than I should stop udev with "service udev stop" or?
[23:17] <wyominggeezer> TJ: Install on the remote box?
[23:17] <davetarmac> KorvinSzanto: Apache2 is running
[23:18] <KorvinSzanto> how can I clear the settings from gtkpod?
[23:18] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: on the 'server' - the one you want to log-in to
[23:19] <simo_n> hi, i have been trying install some drivers and its seems i ruined my wireless driver, how i can the reset the wireless driver setting to the default ?
[23:19] <TJ-> ben1u: No!! You should add an exception rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/
[23:19] <wyominggeezer> TJ: OK, will try that. Sound of me going down the basement to relog in to the *$&^# machine. TNK for your help. At least I have something to try.
[23:20] <TJ-> wyominggeezer: hehehe good luck
[23:20] <wyominggeezer> TJ: Also, will make a pit stop at the bar for another Jack Daniel's Single Barrel. That is a requirement of mine if I have to work on software stuff.
[23:21] <davetarmac> all I'm trying to use phpmyadmin for is to create a user and database in mysql
[23:21] <ben1u> TJ-: but if I want do it temporary for read-only mount than I can stop the udev service or?
[23:21] <davetarmac> and the command line one won't let me
[23:21] <Randm> ah, had to use mini.iso to do this.
[23:21] <Randm> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Import
[23:22] <davetarmac> says Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'dbname'
[23:22] <davetarmac> so obviously I need to change the user to one who can create the db
[23:22] <urgodfather> does anyone use konversation?
[23:22] <thomasross> \slap _Brian
[23:25]  * thomasross slaps _DanN around a bit with a large trout
[23:26] <Cheapshot> 3minutes to find the / :)
[23:26] <AndChat160881> Hi there.
[23:27] <ben1u> I want to prevent automatically mount of USB Device for later ro mount. What should I do?
[23:28]  * thomasross tortures Dwith a suspicious iron bar
[23:28] <Manas> hello
[23:28]  * thomasross hurts awith a medium sized axe