[12:38] <Burgwork> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ <-- ubuntu!
[12:39] <Rinchen> ha! That's great
[12:40] <Rinchen> Time for me to run. I'm doing another Ubuntu Presentation in Colorado down in Denver.  ...at Oracle. :-)
[01:14] <adamant1988> hello all
[01:23] <kostkon> Burgwork, thanks, dude!
[01:35] <Burgwork> NVU 0.80:2.480,000 lines of code, of which 1.606.000 are in C++. <-- boggle!
[04:02] <rjian> hello people
[04:03] <adamant1988> hello rjian
[04:03] <rjian> hello adamant1988
[04:03] <rjian> Johnlittle: are u there?
[04:04] <adamant1988> no he's not... no one is..
[04:04] <adamant1988> it's just you and me... *maniacal laughter*
[04:04] <rjian> ah ok.. do u know the links of his site?
[04:05] <adamant1988> nope.
[04:05] <rjian> ah ok
[04:43] <Flannel> info tovidgui
[04:43] <Flannel> ack, sorry
[05:47] <poningru> whats mathewrevell's nick?
[06:21] <Plug> 08:59 -!- matthewrevell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit
[09:08] <Burgundavia_> nixternal: can you add something to teh UWN about a Kubuntu changes
[09:08] <Burgundavia_> ?
[09:11] <nixternal> sure
[09:11] <nixternal> i have 3 todos rolling right now..and ummm...2 are Kubuntu, and 1/2 of one is Ubuntu, and then 1/4 of that is personal coding stuff, and then the other 1/4 is god knows what ;)
[09:16] <nixternal> g'nite!
[02:18] <johnlittle> omg..theres an ubuntu xgl demo..complete with porn..on youtube
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[02:53] <ompaul> johnlittle, promote something and someone somewhere will troll it
[03:01] <elkbuntu> xchat is a sick sick program.. it linkified 'porn..on'
[03:30] <poningru> johnlittle: rofl
[03:31] <poningru> elkbuntu: waah?
[03:31] <poningru> weird
[03:31] <elkbuntu> hover the mouse over where johnlittle said it
[03:33] <poningru> yeah thats just ... too funny
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, tahts not right :S
[07:46] <jenda> Burgwork: gah @ meetingtime :(
[07:46] <jenda> I'll try to stay up that long.
[07:58] <Burgwork> jenda, sorry, but there is no other time I could make it
[07:58] <jenda> That's OK
[08:49] <jenda> elkbuntu: ping
[08:50] <jenda> I checked out your surveys, and I seem to have a char-encoding issue.
[09:18] <Burgwork> jenda, did you clear the -marketing queue?
[09:19] <jenda> Burgwork: yep
[09:19] <jenda> it built up to quite a bit while I was away. Obviously, mathewrevell hasn't much time to spare - I'm not sure who the other mods are... are you?
[09:20] <Burgwork> nope
[09:21] <jenda> jane is the admin, so if you want, you can ask her.
[09:21] <jenda> In fact, I think it could use a few more mods... any volunteers?
[09:22] <jenda> poningru, nixternal, elkbuntu, ompaul... interested?
[09:22] <nixternal> for?
[09:23] <nixternal> mailing list mod?
[09:23] <ompaul> when is the meeting time?
[09:23] <jenda> yep
[09:23] <nixternal> you can add me if you would like
[09:23] <Burgwork> jenda, I emailed elmo about this, he mentioned that there were already 3 mods
[09:23] <Burgwork> ompaul, 1am your time
[09:23] <nixternal> im getting the hang of mailman with Ubuntu Chicaog and both of my LUGs
[09:23] <ompaul> I don't think I can do that - I was with the doc eariler today
[09:23] <ompaul> rest and smarties
[09:23] <Burgwork><EMAIL_ADDRESS><-- third person
[09:24] <nixternal> sara don't even come around any more that i have seen
[09:24] <jenda> Burgwork: there are - sara vasquez (not around much anymore, prolly since _some_ people discouraged her from the Ubuntu Magazine), matthewrevell (busy) and I...
[09:25] <jenda> which makes it boil down to me most of the time, although M.R. took over very nicely when I was in Estonia.
[09:25] <ompaul> here is a crazy idea is it true that the bottom line is really to stop duplication of effort and prevent rebranding of existing projects so as to allow things grow?
[09:26] <jenda> what do you mean, ompaul?
[09:26] <nixternal> lol
[09:27] <ompaul> jenda to get on with the work we have - and use the resources as effectively as we can
[09:27] <ompaul> we have run into several brick walls revcently
[09:27] <jenda> Is there an example of a recent rebranding which caused effort-loss?
[09:27] <ompaul> both defending where we are
[09:28] <ompaul> effortless :)
[09:28] <ompaul> looking at the whole mag thing
[09:28] <jenda> aha
[09:28] <ompaul> at the same time UWN took place
[09:28] <jenda> yes, of course
[09:28] <jenda> it was very different in the basic concept, though - more like the fridge than the UWN
[09:29] <ompaul> then if we look at people saying "marketing is this" and others saying "marketing is that"
[09:29] <ompaul> yeap but it would end up being uwn with more "features needed" and I can say from what I have seen of two UWN editions
[09:29] <ompaul> that the work to produce it is large scale
[09:30] <ompaul> sorry I need to attent to something here
[09:30] <ompaul> brb
[09:33] <ompaul> okay
[09:33] <ompaul> so what I see is that there is a lack of "pre flagging" of what people are going to do
[09:34] <ompaul> or Work being done
[09:34] <jenda> hm
[09:34] <ompaul> so it gets easy also to get into the camel situation -
[09:34] <jenda> >> solution?
[09:34] <ompaul> a horse desigend by committee
[09:34] <ompaul> sorry folks I am under pressure here to get onto something else
[09:35] <ompaul> the solution is this
[09:35] <ompaul> if someone has a new idea they should be channelled to where existing work takes place
[09:35] <jenda> yes
[09:35] <jenda> very so.
[09:35] <ompaul> then if they are finding it hard to engage it might be worth our while
[09:35] <ompaul> looking at some kind of "plug"
[09:36] <jenda> That can be solved by having an always-up-to-date list of MT projects + contact + status.
[09:36] <ompaul> and "socket" arrangelem
[09:36] <ompaul> arrangement
[09:36] <jenda> How about writing that down a bit organisedly and posting to the ML for discussion, ompaul?
[09:36] <ompaul> well right now that is not going to happen
[09:36] <ompaul> I have to run back in an hour or so
[09:37] <jenda> ok


[05:16] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[05:16] <ubotu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 26 Jun 23:00: Community Council | 27 Jun 01:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 22:00: Edubuntu | 28 Jun 06:00: Xubuntu Developers | 29 Jun 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 21:00: MOTU Team
[05:18] <lamalex> damn
[06:13] <coreymon77> @schedule toronto
[06:13] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Toronto: 26 Jun 09:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 11:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 07:00: MOTU Team
[06:49] <calc> @schedule chicago
[06:49] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 26 Jun 08:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 10:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 07:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 15:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 06:00: MOTU Team
[06:50] <ajmitch> nice, 1AM for me
[06:50] <calc> 6am for MOTU Team meeting, yuck
[06:50] <ajmitch> that's not so bad
[06:50] <ajmitch> were you planning to attend?
[06:51] <Hobbsee> he wants MOTU, so likely
[06:51] <calc> heh
[06:51] <calc> if i can drag myself out of bed that early :)
[06:51] <ajmitch> the point is that he shouldn't have to wait for a meeting
[06:52] <ajmitch> if I can be bothered
[06:52] <calc> heh
[06:52] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: that's if hte MC even approves him
[06:53] <ajmitch> of course
[06:54] <calc> btw wrt clamav why isn't it in main?
[06:55] <ajmitch> noone wants it there?
[06:55] <calc> seems like it would be very useful thing for server at least
[09:20] <nixternal> @schedule chicago
[09:20] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 26 Jun 08:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 10:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 07:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 15:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 10:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 06:00: MOTU Team
[09:21] <jsgotangco> yay
[09:24] <nixternal> hehe
[10:15] <emonkey-m> @schedule zurich
[10:15] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Zurich: 26 Jun 15:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 13:00: MOTU Team
[12:52] <pochu> @now Madrid
[12:52] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Madrid: June 26 2007, 12:52:35 - Next meeting: Community Council in 2 hours 7 minutes
[12:54] <bashelier> pochu: don't you have time on your computer ? :p
[12:56] <pochu> bashelier: I do, but I wanted to know when is the CC meeting ;)
[12:57] <bashelier> pochu: eheh I also do :)
[01:02] <fabbione> speaking of CC... is mako still part of the Community Council?
[01:02] <juliux> i hope so
[01:02] <pochu> I was, not sure if he still is.
[01:03] <juliux> fabbione, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil look like if ehe is
[01:03] <pochu> s/I/he/
[01:03] <fabbione> ok.. then i better hurry up to go and pick him up at the airport :)
[01:03] <juliux> fabbione, you have two hours;)
[01:03] <pochu> fabbione: looks like he isn't anymore: https://launchpad.net/~communitycouncil/+members
[01:03] <fabbione> hmm no
[01:04] <fabbione> he is not
[01:04] <fabbione> ok
[01:04] <fabbione> then i don't need to travel at light speed
[01:04] <juliux> hm not good that he left
[01:05] <fabbione> it might be just the auto-expire thingy..
[01:06] <juliux> perhaps
[01:12] <jsgotangco> yeah
[01:13] <myriam_rs> hi jsgotangco
[01:13] <jsgotangco> hi
[01:13] <juliux> hi jsgotangco
[01:13] <jsgotangco> hmm still pretty early
[01:13] <myriam_rs> you are the one who knows the answer :-)
[01:14] <jsgotangco> yeah its just the auto-expire thing however, sabdfl is the one who controls the cc lp team
[01:14] <myriam_rs> so there are 9 members in total?
[01:15] <jsgotangco> 8
[01:16] <jsgotangco> i'll grab some dinner first brb
[01:29] <nop_> what time is it now?
[01:30] <PriceChild> @now
[01:30] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 11:30:04 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 29 minutes
[01:30] <nop_> PriceChild, thanks
[01:56] <AndreNoel> @now
[01:56] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 11:56:32 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 3 minutes
[01:59] <Zic> @now Paris
[01:59] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Paris: June 26 2007, 13:59:07 - Next meeting: Community Council in 1 hour 0 minutes
[02:06] <bashelier> hello Mr Zic :)
[02:06] <bashelier> @now Paris
[02:06] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Paris: June 26 2007, 14:06:11 - Next meeting: Community Council in 53 minutes
[02:06] <Zic> bashelier: hi, mr "upnext Ubuntu Member"
[02:06] <Zic> :)
[02:07] <coNP> @now Budapest
[02:07] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Budapest: June 26 2007, 14:07:12 - Next meeting: Community Council in 52 minutes
[02:08] <bashelier> Zic: :p
[02:38] <zul> @schedule montreal
[02:38] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Montreal: 26 Jun 09:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 11:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 07:00: MOTU Team
[02:47] <n3t0> Ubuntuser, \o/
[02:48] <Ubuntuser> n3t0, o>
[02:48] <AndreNoel> @now
[02:48] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 12:48:44 - Next meeting: Community Council in 11 minutes
[02:50] <AndreNoel> cypherbios: great cypher
[02:50] <cypherbios> AndreNoel: hey man
[02:53] <effraie> o/
[02:54] <OgMaciel> heya effraie!
[02:54] <pygi> OgMaciel, !!!
[02:54] <OgMaciel> pygi: hey dude... did you get up in time for your test?
[02:55] <pygi> OgMaciel, lol, no
[02:55] <pygi> I was two hours late
[02:55] <OgMaciel> hahaha
[02:55] <OgMaciel> pygi: told you I should have skyped ya
[02:55] <Zic> @now Paris
[02:55] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Paris: June 26 2007, 14:55:20 - Current meeting: Community Council
[02:55] <Zic> :]
[02:55] <pygi> OgMaciel, oh well, I'll live :p
[02:55] <Zic> I'm ready :)
[02:55] <pygi> I appeared later, and got the grade =)
[02:55] <Ubuntuser> Hi jwendell .. o>
[02:55] <OgMaciel> pygi: wow... nice to have connections :P
[02:55] <jwendell> hi
[02:55] <peanutb> well this got me up at 6am.
[02:55] <pygi> OgMaciel, what connections lol?
[02:56] <pygi> get your skype up
[02:56] <peanutb> but its completely worth it.
[02:56] <OgMaciel> pygi: hang on
[02:56] <jsgotangco> hi
[02:56] <dholbach> heya
[02:56] <jsgotangco> hmm we have a looongg agenda
[02:56] <jsgotangco> i doubt we can fit this in 2 hours
[02:56] <etank> whats up johnc4510
[02:56] <Mr_Mirsal> Hey !
[02:56] <OgMaciel> heya jsgotangco
[02:56] <Vorian> whoo johnc4510
[02:57] <jsgotangco> hi Og buddy
[02:57] <bashelier> hey all :)
[02:57] <johnc4510> etank: hello and thanks for coming    I appreciate it
[02:57] <elkbuntu> jsgotangco, how long is it since a CC meeting fit in a 2hr slot?
[02:57] <myriam_rs> hi dholbach :-)
[02:57] <etank> np johnc4510
[02:57] <myriam_rs> hi all
[02:57] <dholbach> hi myriam_rs
[02:57] <johnc4510> etank: :)
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> everyone is here... party time?
[02:57] <bashelier> hey dholbach :)
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> oh right we are having a meeting...
[02:57] <lamalex> etank: hi :)
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> it's never party time...
[02:57] <Hobbsee> CC here yet?
[02:57] <pleia2> christinaeater: hey!
[02:57] <etank> turns out that there are a few people / teams i am cheering on today
[02:58] <etank> hi lamalex
[02:58] <christinaeater> pleia2: hi there!
[02:58] <dholbach> jsgotangco: I feel we should cast the vote on the funky feisty competetition outside the meeting - it's not the best use we can make of our time togethere here
[02:58] <lamalex> christinaeater: hi
[02:58] <jsgotangco> dholbach: i agree we can do this on email
[02:58] <dholbach> jsgotangco: yep
[02:58] <OgMaciel> jsgotangco: how is everything?  any news?
[02:59] <jsgotangco> dholbach: how about the irc council, this has been discussed in email as well
[02:59] <dholbach> jsgotangco: we should also drop the derivatives team point, as the derivative team is alive and kicking and I wrote dfarning about it already - ampachu is not here for it either
[02:59] <jsgotangco> yeah and there's an ML already yes?
[02:59] <dholbach> yep
[02:59] <christinaeater> lamalex: hi :) oh dear, there are probably more people i know here than i recognize
[02:59] <jsgotangco> cool
[02:59] <dholbach> :-)
[02:59] <lamalex> aha
[03:00] <jsgotangco> ok it seems only me and dholbach are here
[03:00] <dholbach> I though burgundavia would be around
[03:01] <dholbach> MikeB said he might be busy, mdke is at work
[03:01] <jsgotangco> i thought so too, i could send an sms to mike, but he said he'll be busy
[03:01] <dholbach> ah, there he is
[03:01] <jsgotangco> yay
[03:01] <MikeB-> morning all
[03:01] <dholbach> hi MikeB- :)
[03:01] <PriceChild> speak of the devil
[03:02] <petrovicivan> I am here in the name of Serbian LoCo
[03:02] <elkbuntu> dholbach, it's like 6am for burgundavia, so you might be out of luck
[03:02] <MikeB-> traffic was heavier today, sorry I'm late
[03:02] <amachu> Hi
[03:02] <jsgotangco> its alright we can do with 3 for now just to get this rolling
[03:02] <amachu> amachu from Ubuntu Tamil Team, here
[03:03] <dholbach> ok, let's get started - we have a full agenda
[03:03] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[03:03] <PriceChild> Shall I start?
[03:04] <dholbach> PriceChild: shall we finish that discussion by mail or do you have any specific points you want to raise?
[03:04] <elkbuntu> and then there was 4
[03:04] <dholbach> PriceChild: as you asked the CC by mail already
[03:04] <dholbach> hi elmo
[03:04] <PriceChild> Nothing new really. Jono hasn't yet replied :( So there's nothing to discuss really.
[03:04] <jwendell> cypherbios, please call me if you need something from me, i'm busy on my job, ok?
[03:04] <bryce> morning
[03:04] <jsgotangco> \o/
[03:04] <dholbach> PriceChild: I'll prod him about it
[03:04] <cypherbios> jwendell: that's right. I'll do
[03:04] <dholbach> PriceChild: hope it's ok for you, if we move on and finish it by mail
[03:05] <PriceChild> yup sounds fine, no rush :)
[03:05] <dholbach> ok thanks
[03:05] <jsgotangco> thanks
[03:05] <Hobbsee> dholbach: it'd be good if we could get this going, and not be blocked on jono, if he's not replying, then he probably doesnt have much to say on it
[03:05] <jsgotangco> we'll skip the photo stuff and do it by mail
[03:05] <cypherbios> jwendell: thanks for coming
[03:05] <dholbach> I said to jsgotangco already, that'd we'd do the funky feisty vote by mail also - I think it isn't the best use of our time in the meeting
[03:06] <dholbach> Hobbsee: I agree, that it'd be good to get it going, but let's just move on for now and finish the discussion by mail please
[03:06] <Hobbsee> dholbach: as you wish
[03:06] <jsgotangco> as for the derivatives team amachu is here, but this has been cleared up no?
[03:06] <dholbach> Hobbsee: thanks
[03:07] <amachu> jsgotangco: means?
[03:07] <jsgotangco> amachu: ooppss
[03:07] <jsgotangco> sorry
[03:07] <dholbach> we had the point on the agenda for at least one CC meeting already
[03:07] <amachu> jsgotangco: does it awaiting approval?
[03:07] <Zic> where is our sabdfl ?
[03:07] <dholbach> amachu: I wrote dfarning a mail about the derivative team situation
[03:07] <amachu> dholbach: ok
[03:08] <amachu> dholbach: any update on it?
[03:08] <dholbach> amachu: as you might have gathered from other lists, the team is alive and kicking again, has a mailing list and had its first meeting
[03:08] <dholbach> no, I didn't hear back from him
[03:08] <amachu> dholbach: gr8
[03:08] <Admiral_Chicago> just a point; I haven't heard from david in a long time and he was the start of the Mozilla Team
[03:08] <amachu> it has a mailing list?
[03:08] <pochu> I'm off to have lunch, but I wanted to let you know that I *fully* support j1mc coNP applications to become members. j1mc rocks with Xubuntu testing, and coNP does a lot of bug triage and Desktop Team packaging!
[03:08] <dholbach> http://lists.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <dholbach> let's move on
[03:08] <Admiral_Chicago> we mailed him and are waiting back, dunno if he lost interest or something...last we heard he had a family problem
[03:09] <amachu> Admiral_Chicago: dfarning?
[03:09] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: right, I'll try to prod him again
[03:09] <dholbach> Is anybody of the Serbian Team around?
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> as will we
[03:09] <amachu> okie..
[03:09] <amachu> thank u
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> amachu: yes
[03:09] <petrovicivan> yes
[03:09] <petrovicivan> Serbian coordinator
[03:09] <petrovicivan> is outway so I will replace him
[03:09] <pygi> petrovicivan, pozdrav :P
[03:09] <jsgotangco> Ivan Jelic
[03:10] <petrovicivan> yes, and I am Ivan Petrovic
[03:10] <petrovicivan> pygi: pozdrav
[03:10] <petrovicivan> our Allication approuval is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerbianTeamApprovalApplication
[03:10] <dholbach> your web page looks nice - is there any information in english about your team available somewhere?
[03:10] <dholbach> ah good :)
[03:10] <petrovicivan> no, we don't have english version
[03:10] <myriam_rs> hi dinda!
[03:11] <dholbach> I meant the application
[03:11] <petrovicivan> thx for look
[03:11] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerbianTeamApprovalApplication
[03:11] <petrovicivan> aplication is in english
[03:12] <jsgotangco> petrovicivan: how many members does the team have? anyone here as well?
[03:12] <petrovicivan> rainmaker is with us
[03:13] <rainmaker> hello
[03:13] <petrovicivan> our team have 8 members
[03:14] <dholbach> your application says you have 37 cities covered
[03:14] <jsgotangco> in the page it says that Ubuntu doesn't have serbian localization files, is there a team initiative for this to happen?
[03:14] <petrovicivan> yes, we covered whole Serbia, because problems with post mail service
[03:15] <dholbach> petrovicivan: I don't quite understand, how do you cover whole Serbia?
[03:15] <petrovicivan> jsgotangco: is a mistake look here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+lang/sr
[03:16] <petrovicivan> when new release comes
[03:16] <petrovicivan> our members with broadbend download the ISO and then spread to 37 cities
[03:16] <dholbach> given that danilo is from serbia, no serbian translations would have struck me somewhat :)
[03:17] <dholbach> petrovicivan: ah ok, now I understand
[03:17] <petrovicivan> then people can contact by telephone or ..
[03:17] <dholbach> are most of you in belgrad?
[03:18] <petrovicivan> not realy
[03:18] <petrovicivan> look at http://ubuntu-rs.org/wiki/Share_it
[03:18] <elmo> 'Membership - 999 as of 8th June 2007' - how are you counting that, JOOI?
[03:18] <petrovicivan> that's the forum members
[03:18] <petrovicivan> we have a very good forum population
[03:19] <petrovicivan> it's the numer since May 2005
[03:19] <elmo> ok
[03:19] <petrovicivan> when we start. forum was the firts step
[03:20] <petrovicivan> in creating our community
[03:20] <jsgotangco> forum activity is nice
[03:20] <rainmaker> forum is very nice place alsoo
[03:21] <petrovicivan> yes, we have 23 messages per day
[03:21] <petrovicivan> (average) since 2005
[03:22] <petrovicivan> and hottest forum is Absoluty Beginners
[03:22] <jsgotangco> i think this the forums is a good start
[03:22] <dholbach> what are your plans for the next months? are there any events planned?
[03:22] <jsgotangco> but i am quite intrigued by the ShareIT initiative
[03:22] <rainmaker> a loot of peaple was start with ubuntu thanks to forum
[03:23] <jsgotangco> with 8 members i am wondering how to cover 32 cities
[03:23] <jsgotangco> 37 even
[03:23] <jsgotangco> don't get me wrong, I think it is a fabulous initiative
[03:24] <petrovicivan> sorry, when I say members I was thinking about coordinator team
[03:24] <petrovicivan> not the whole LoCo
[03:24] <dholbach> so how many members does your LoCo have?
[03:25] <petrovicivan> over 1000
[03:25] <jsgotangco> (nice keychains btw)
[03:25] <petrovicivan> in Share it we have about active 50 members
[03:26] <pygi> petrovicivan, uh, uh :) You don't count every forum member as a LoCo membership, right? :)
[03:26] <petrovicivan> this is the list http://ubuntu-rs.org/wiki/Share_it
[03:26] <petrovicivan> I little confised about the terminology
[03:26] <jsgotangco> ok
[03:26] <pygi> Got it. jsgotangco lemme try to get something :)
[03:26] <petrovicivan> As you can see top team count 8 members
[03:26] <pygi> petrovicivan, koliko clanova imate u Launchpad loco timu? Prijavljenih & prihvacenih?
[03:27] <jsgotangco> yeah that would be great
[03:27] <petrovicivan> but Share It action have about 50
[03:27] <petrovicivan> pydi: sec
[03:28] <pygi> petrovicivan, i da li imate neke uvjete kada osoba moze biti primljena u Launchapd serbia loco team?
[03:28] <pygi> petrovicivan, k, nema problema
[03:28] <pygi> (sorry about this folks, trying to help ya a bit ^_^)
[03:29] <cypherbios> of course :)
[03:29] <petrovicivan> Launchpad uglavnom vode clanovi GNOME
[03:29] <petrovicivan> tima za prevodjenje, a ja sam tu aktivan samo kao prevodioc
[03:29] <pygi> petrovicivan, moze link do launchpad loco tima?
[03:30] <petrovicivan> pokusavam...
[03:30] <dholbach> rosetta counts 85 serbian contributors
[03:30] <pygi> dholbach, Launchpad loco team is being led mostly by the members of the Serbian GNOME translation team
[03:30] <pygi> trying to fetch more info ^_^
[03:30] <dholbach> I think it'd be nice to have that kind of number on the application
[03:31] <dholbach> also plans for the next months or problems the team is working on
[03:31] <pygi> petrovicivan, dodaj molim te u prijavu da je 85 ljudi aktivno na prevodjenju (da radi na njemu) i na prijavu bi jos trebali problemi na kojima radite i planovi mozda za iduci mjesec
[03:31] <dholbach> I think that the Serbian LoCo is on the right track, but I feel it would be worth to share all that information on the approval page
[03:31] <pygi> dholbach, translated :)
[03:32] <petrovicivan> our plans are to make another Install Show
[03:32] <petrovicivan> pygi: thx
[03:33] <pygi> petrovicivan, nista, napisi to na prijavu ^_^
[03:33] <pygi> dholbach, Installfest
[03:33] <petrovicivan> were we organize presentation of Ubuntu installation for new users
[03:33] <petrovicivan> and give then some talk about free software
[03:33] <rainmaker> also we work in ubutnu popularization in serbia
[03:34] <pygi> s/were/where
[03:34] <jsgotangco> what are the current issues surrounding the loco team on effectively managing and implementing its goals to the community?
[03:34] <jsgotangco> and how does the current membership address it?
[03:34] <petrovicivan> because most of us are the part of FSN Srbija
[03:35] <pygi> petrovicivan, razumijes sto su te sada pitali, jel ? :)
[03:35] <petrovicivan> uglavnom, hajde pomozi da ne lupim
[03:35] <petrovicivan> pitaju kako resavamo probleme u zajdnici?
[03:36] <pygi> petrovicivan, pita koji su problemi trenutno oko loko tima oko rada u zajednici?
[03:36] <pygi> i kako to pokusavate rijesiti
[03:37] <petrovicivan> the current issue is building our wiki with all solved problems from the forum
[03:38] <petrovicivan> we have a little help from Wikipedia Serbia, and that will be fine in the future
[03:38] <rainmaker> we try to educate our members as much as we can
[03:38] <petrovicivan> second, is advotacy in computer magazines
[03:38] <jsgotangco> ok
[03:39] <Zic> elkbuntu: huhu ;)
[03:39] <petrovicivan> to spread a word of Ubuntu OS
[03:39] <jsgotangco> from what I see there is great work being done here for the serbian team
[03:39] <dholbach> MikeB-, jsgotangco, elmo: any more questions?
[03:39] <petrovicivan> because few of our members are working part time job at this magazines
[03:40] <MikeB-> none here
[03:40] <petrovicivan> not to forget our GNUzilla
[03:40] <petrovicivan> free software magazine
[03:40] <pygi> dholbach, o did you see GNUzilla work?
[03:40] <petrovicivan> that 3 of our members are editing
[03:41] <pygi> it's pretty nice. Sometimes articles are not top quality, but ... they're working hard on that ^_^
[03:41] <petrovicivan> http://gnuzilla.fsnserbia.org/
[03:41] <pygi> petrovicivan, don't think they'll be able to read that :p
[03:41] <elmo> not from me
[03:41] <petrovicivan> ok, sorry
[03:41] <dholbach> Ok. I'm happy with the efforts of the Serbian team and give a +1.
[03:41] <petrovicivan> but it's the only magazine of that kind in local languange
[03:41] <jsgotangco> i'm ok to give my approval as well
[03:41] <MikeB-> +1 here
[03:42] <pygi> petrovicivan, istina :)
[03:42] <elmo> yeah, +1
[03:42] <pygi> petrovicivan, cestitam
[03:42] <jsgotangco> congrats serbian team!
[03:42] <rainmaker> thanks
[03:42] <dholbach> congratulations Serbia!
[03:42] <lamalex> congrats!
[03:42] <petrovicivan> that you guys
[03:42] <jsgotangco> ok
[03:42] <effraie> \o/
[03:42] <coNP> congrat Serbian neighbours :)
[03:42] <myriam_rs> congratulations from SwissTeam also :-)
[03:42] <bashelier> effraie: :)
[03:42] <AndreNoel> congrats
[03:42] <Ubuntuser> Congrats petrovicivan .. ;)
[03:42] <bashelier> congrats all ;)
[03:42] <petrovicivan> :):)
[03:42] <Vorian> Congrats!!!!11
[03:42] <Ubuntuser> Ubuntuser.. from Brazil!
[03:42] <cypherbios> Hi all, i't Brazil time now > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrazilianTeam
[03:43] <jsgotangco> anyone from brazil explain why is there an application?
[03:43] <jwendell> :)
[03:43] <cypherbios> jsgotangco: I'll do
[03:43] <jsgotangco> go for it
[03:43] <AndreNoel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrazilianTeam/ApprovalApplication
[03:44] <cypherbios> please take a look at the approvalapplication page
[03:44] <dholbach> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList the Brazilian team is not approved yet - I was sure it was approved already :)
[03:44] <cypherbios> dholbach: Not yet :)
[03:44] <Fujitsu> It has been around for eeeever. It must be!
[03:44] <OgMaciel> :)
[03:44] <jwendell> merely formality...
[03:44] <OgMaciel> hehe
[03:45] <OgMaciel> exactly
[03:45] <rpereira> :-)
[03:45] <AndreNoel> :)
[03:45] <cypherbios> but please, take a look at the approvalapplication page before (at least) hehehe
[03:45] <Ubuntuser> :]
[03:46] <cypherbios> Don't miss our website http://www.ubuntu-br.org/
[03:46] <jsgotangco> ubuntu-br open week, similar to ubuntu's?
[03:46] <Ubuntuser> yeah
[03:46] <cypherbios> yes
[03:46] <dholbach> do you plan to run any events in the next time as a loco? where does your action concentrate?
[03:47] <jsgotangco> seems every region is well covered, nice!
[03:47] <cypherbios> dholbach: We already does. We always represent Ubuntu in the principal FLOSS events in brazil
[03:47] <jsgotangco> (familiar names even)
[03:47] <jwendell> s/principal/main
[03:47] <OgMaciel> dholbach: we have already participated in several large sized events as a LoCo
[03:47] <rpereira> And we always has a national meeting at International Forum of Free Software.
[03:47] <cypherbios> jsgotangco: yes, 16 of 26 states are officially covered
[03:48] <pygi> cyphase, what? You're not covering 27 states? o.O
[03:48] <jwendell> :)
[03:48] <OgMaciel> elkbuntu: hehehe
[03:48] <pygi> elkbuntu, ++
[03:48] <pygi> let's just give +3 and be done with it :)
[03:48] <rpereira> elkbuntu: :-)
[03:48] <OgMaciel> HAHAHAHA
[03:48] <jsgotangco> elkbuntu: because
[03:48] <jsgotangco> anyways
[03:48] <cypherbios> heheh, thanks
[03:48] <AndreNoel> :)
[03:49] <jsgotangco> i'm more than happy to give my vote, but this is a very good example of a big country diversified in the efforts of building a country-covered loco
[03:49] <jsgotangco> each state has clear goals and reps
[03:49] <cypherbios> someone has mentioned we have 17 ubuntumembers?
[03:49] <Whopper> Ok
[03:49] <AndreNoel> cypherbios: 16
[03:49] <Ubuntuser> thanks jsgotangco ..
[03:49] <cypherbios> that's what I said :)
[03:50] <Whopper> Did coreymon77 come on?
[03:50] <jsgotangco> dholbach elmo MikeB- votes?
[03:51] <elmo> +1
[03:51] <rpereira> Guys, I'll have to take my fiancee to the doctor. I hope our community got +inf points. :-)
[03:51] <elmo> (trivial)
[03:51] <dholbach> yes, I agree with jsgotangco - everywhere I looked seemed to be healthy brazilian ubuntu action going on - the forums, the wiki, the planet, etc: +1 from me
[03:51] <AndreNoel> :D
[03:51] <jsgotangco> \o/
[03:51] <pygi> dholbach, they are even getting own planetoid!!! :)
[03:51] <pygi> o well :p
[03:51] <rpereira> Thanks elmo and dholbach.
[03:51] <Zic> does somebody know if sabdfl will come ?
[03:51] <MikeB-> +1
[03:51] <jsgotangco> ok let's move to pennsylvania
[03:52] <jsgotangco> yay
[03:52] <Ubuntuser> :D
[03:52] <jsgotangco> Zic: i doubt he'll come today
[03:52] <cypherbios> Sounds really great! Thanks all!
[03:52] <rpereira> :-)
[03:52] <freelancer317> That's us! I'm the team contact!
[03:52] <dholbach> congratulations :)
[03:52] <freelancer317> Our application page is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/ApprovalApplication
[03:52] <Zic> jsgotangco: ok ... thx
[03:52] <jsgotangco> Bret?
[03:52] <freelancer317> Congrats to Brazil!
[03:52] <jsgotangco> ahh
[03:52] <pleia2> I'm here for pennsylvania too :)
[03:52] <AndreNoel> thanks!!
[03:52] <freelancer317> That's me
[03:52] <OgMaciel> :)
[03:52] <jedijf> pa here
[03:52] <rpereira> Thanks everybody. :)
[03:52] <Joe_CoT> I'm not from Pennsylvania, but i live very close!
[03:52] <jedijf> congrats serbia and brazil!!
[03:52] <lamalex> PA here
[03:52] <Ubuntuser> this is begin... ;)
[03:52] <teddy-dbear> Pa here
[03:52] <freelancer317> Thank you for the opportunity to review our application to become and approved Local Community Team! First off we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the great people who have joined this team, and although I started it, without them, there would be no application in front of you now, nor would there be for a very long time.
[03:53] <freelancer317> The US-Pennsylvania LoCo Team was established in March by freelancer317 (Bret Fledderjohn) with the assistance of Vorian (Ohio Team Contact). Since that time, we have grown to 51 direct members on Launchpad. We have also established strong bonds with active LUGs, had four successful events, and are building several ongoing projects and events which will not only spread the word about Ubuntu, but also (in many
[03:53] <freelancer317> cases) will help make our local communities better places.
[03:54] <freelancer317> http://www.meetlinux.com is our website.
[03:54] <dholbach> what has the team been concentrating on in the last time? how did you find new members?
[03:54] <freelancer317> We've initially been working with LUGs and several Nonprofits
[03:55] <lamalex> We've been working with a lot of non-profits to help under priveleged people benefit from technology and free software
[03:55] <freelancer317> the forum and Launchpad have also been attracting alot of attention
[03:55] <jedijf> and with local lugs to cross-promote events
[03:55] <freelancer317> We had a joint installfest with the Central PA LUG and we had our own installfest in Philly
[03:55] <jsgotangco> i see lots of activites with non-profits on the website
[03:56] <jedijf> that is an ongoing thing - now that we've started relationships, the projects flow from one to the next
[03:57] <dholbach> that sounds good - launchpad says you have 55 members - do you have a chance to meet often as a team?
[03:57] <pleia2> thanks myriam_rs :)
[03:57] <freelancer317> We are also putting together a statewide media contact list, and will have a subteam working on distributing press releases and interacting with the media
[03:57] <lamalex> not in person as a whole team
[03:57] <lamalex> pennsylvania is a large state
[03:57] <freelancer317> dholbach outside of irc meetings, no
[03:57] <jedijf> weekly irc chats
[03:57] <lamalex> wednesday nights, 8:30pm est
[03:57] <jedijf> and active daily irc contact
[03:57] <jsgotangco> yeah i saw the calendar
[03:57] <freelancer317> we have subteams that cover the different regions
[03:58] <Vorian> Pennsylvania has been doing wonderful things in the name of Ubuntu.  I strongly recommend them for a +1
[03:58] <freelancer317> Thanks Vorian
[03:58] <jsgotangco> how is the team preparing for SFD?
[03:58] <jedijf> we are promoting a major event with PACS - phila area computer society -
[03:58] <lamalex> philly team is working with the philly area computer society for a large bbq/speech/party
[03:59] <freelancer317> Well, there is an event being planned up in the northeastern part of the state. Philly is planning a big thing with PACS, and Harrisburg is working with CPULG
[03:59] <jedijf> providing a speaker and demonstrations from 8 am to 3 pm
[03:59] <freelancer317> oops cplug
[03:59] <lamalex> :P
[03:59] <freelancer317> we hope to have an event in most major cities and towns in PA
[03:59] <freelancer317> Pittsburgh is in the infancy of developing the event
[04:00] <dholbach> nice - the team looks well organized to me
[04:00] <lamalex> they are beginning to form in pittsburg
[04:00] <lamalex> there is interest, but it hasn't fully come together. Progress is being made and other regions are encouraging them
[04:00] <freelancer317> dholbach thanks!  We've got a real good core group of people working to get this going
[04:00] <jsgotangco> a lot of stuff looks solid to me as well, but i advice taking advantage of SFD to have a big get-together, should be fun, the bbq party is a nice touch, i give my +1
[04:01] <dholbach> I'm happy to give a +1 for Pennsylvania as well
[04:01] <MikeB-> +1 for me
[04:01] <freelancer317> thanks dholbach and jsgotangco and MikeB!
[04:01] <dholbach> elmo?
[04:02] <elmo> +1
[04:02] <dholbach> congratulations! :)
[04:02] <dholbach> ok, let's move on to member applications
[04:02] <myriam_rs> Congratulations from the SwissTeam to Pennsylvania LoCO Team!
[04:02] <pleia2> thanks everyone!
[04:02] <dholbach> bashelier: it's your stage
[04:02] <Vorian> Yay Pennsylvania!!!!!!
[04:02] <freelancer317> thanks myriam_rs!
[04:02] <Vorian> Congrats!1
[04:02] <bashelier> :)
[04:02] <bashelier> Hello, my name is Arthur, I'm a "long" date (almost 4 years iirc) Debian user and began using Ubuntu on Hoary release. After a few years of using then, I've tried to get a bit involved in development, and started with packaging. Since I've packed a couple of softs and quickly decided to upload them in Debian rather than in Ubuntu, first because I'd rather see my packages in all Debian-based distributions and not just in Ubuntu, second becau
[04:02] <freelancer317> Thanks to everyone!
[04:02] <bashelier> here is my wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArthurLoiret
[04:03] <dholbach> bashelier: your first paste was truncated
[04:03] <dholbach> bashelier: "... just in Ubuntu, second beca"
[04:04] <bashelier> dholbach: here it is... http://pastebin.ca/590296
[04:04] <dholbach> "...second because I was also very interested in contributing to Debian. Today, I'm trying to do my best to make clean packages, sync, merges, bug fixes, patches, and began to set up a few Debian/Ubuntu related projects."
[04:04] <bashelier> second because I was also very interested in contributing to Debian. Today, I'm trying to do my best to make clean packages, sync, merges, bug fixes, patches, and began to set up a few Debian/Ubuntu related projects.
[04:04] <bashelier> yup :)
[04:04] <Sp4rKy> ^^
[04:05] <dholbach> bashelier: what are you further plans in the MOTU world?
[04:06] <bashelier> dholbach: I'd like to be able to offer mentoring to new packagers on french irc classroom chans in a first time
[04:06] <jsgotangco> anyone here advocating for bashelier?
[04:06] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia: !
[04:06] <dholbach> there seems to be a lot of good stuff going on in the french motu community - do you think the MOTU community at large could learn from them?
[04:06] <pygi> jsgotangco, I am
[04:06] <Adri2000> parts* :)
[04:06] <effraie> +1 here too :)
[04:06] <pygi> jsgotangco, +1 for him
[04:07] <Burgundavia> ugh. 7am. Morning everybody
[04:07] <jsgotangco> =)
[04:07] <pygi> morning Burgundavia
[04:07] <Hobbsee> morning Burgundavia
[04:07] <dholbach> hi Burgundavia
[04:07] <bashelier> dholbach: could... the french community is iirc the oly one whose has a classroom chan, to help
[04:07] <Sp4rKy> if it's really needed, +1 for bashelier and all the great work he has already done
[04:07] <bashelier> :)
[04:08] <gsuveg> re
[04:08] <dholbach> great - it'd be nice to hear more about that, but maybe not in this meeting
[04:08] <bashelier> dholbach: packages from french new packagers are reviewed almost every days on #ubuntu-fr-classroom, for example
[04:08] <dholbach> that's amazing - it'd be nice if we could adapt that
[04:09] <effraie> but packaging is one one of the many goals for *classroom ^^
[04:09] <dholbach> right
[04:09] <gpocentek> french people are very bad english speaker, we needed to do something ;)
[04:09] <effraie> ^^
[04:09] <Sp4rKy> gpocentek: +1
[04:09] <bashelier> ^^'
[04:09] <dholbach> as I've worked together with bashelier before, I don't have any more questions - MikeB-, jsgotangco, elmo?
[04:09] <jsgotangco> i'm good +1
[04:09] <MikeB-> none here, looks like a very well done app
[04:09] <MikeB-> +1
[04:10] <Zic> bashelier is involved on other projects in ubuntu-fr-classroom (see his wiki page)
[04:10] <elmo> +1
[04:10] <dholbach> +1 - bashelier did excellent work in the MOTU team already, so hope to see him as a MOTU soon :)
[04:10] <dholbach> thanks bashelier
[04:10] <gpocentek> congrats bashelier :)
[04:10] <jsgotangco> congrats!
[04:10] <bashelier> thanks :)
[04:10] <dholbach> viperio does not seem to be around
[04:10] <Sp4rKy> congrats !!!
[04:10] <effraie> \o/ bashelier
[04:10] <bashelier> myriam_rs: :]
[04:10] <dholbach> effraie: your stage
[04:10] <jsgotangco> ok effraie nxt
[04:11] <effraie> so, hello all
[04:11] <effraie> i'm the perrfect example of french bad english spoker
[04:11] <bashelier> +1!
[04:11] <effraie> I'm 25 year old educator: i work in french public hospital, with psychotic teenagers. I know, it's really not related to ubuntu ^^ (but very close related to me)
[04:11] <effraie> Ubuntu related pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Effraie | https://launchpad.net/~effraie
[04:11] <effraie> I'm linux user since mandrake 9.2 (2001 if i correctly remember) and ubuntu user since warty stable release.
[04:11] <effraie> As powerpc user, my first involvment in ubuntu was contributing in ppc section on french ubuntu forums.
[04:12] <effraie> I setted up a third-part repository ( http://mental-ppc.tuxfamily.org/ ) with a friend, in order to provide some missing and/or buggy packages for ppc arch ( i think i was the first to release beryl & e17 packages for ppc, and i provide an xkb-data including a correct french apple keymap (2 examples the kind of packages we can provide).Now, i'm building medibuntu-ppc packages.
[04:12] <effraie> I did learn to package on #ubuntu-fr-classroom (with gpocentek, mr_pouit...) and that classroom was my second most important involvment in ubuntu: i think that kind of project is a *very* powerfull way to involved new people in free software, and to make their skills growing up.
[04:12] <effraie> That project is still growing up, and is certainly now the main place for "power-user" involvement in french ubuntu community.
[04:12] <effraie> I did wrote many pieces of french "ubuntu on powerpc" documentation (see http://blog.effraie.org/tag/PowerPC ). I did really recently crashed my ibook, but it was the beginning for a new project i launched with bashelier: MefaB, wich stand for "mental farm buildd", wich main goal is to provide an easy way for repository admins and users to set up or contribute for decentralized build-farm.
[04:12] <effraie> After have maintaining ubuntu-fr website for some time, i'm now one of the 2 "new" fr locoteam administrator. (cause the 3 currents admins are slowly switching to new/others projects/stuffs )
[04:12] <effraie> well...
[04:13] <effraie> done :|
[04:13] <bashelier> I *fully* support effraie's application, he has shown he was involved in many parts of Ubuntu tasks, in the french community
[04:13] <fernando> bashelier, congrats
[04:13] <bashelier> thanks fernando
[04:13] <gpocentek> effraie is very very active in the french community since a while
[04:13] <skateinmars> As a french ubuntu user (planet member, irc channels moderator), I'd like to advocate for effraie as he is really active in the french community.
[04:13] <dholbach> effraie: it seems that none of your packages made it into Ubuntu yet - do you have plans for your packages to go into Ubuntu proper?
[04:14] <Adri2000> all the french community supports effraie's application! :) I do as well :)
[04:14] <effraie> well, most of the package i did build was still in ubuntu, but not suitable on powerpc
[04:14] <effraie> they are, now
[04:14] <dholbach> ah ok, what about e17?
[04:15] <effraie> well, i think rasterman has some reason for not including e17 in ubuntu, that's not *really* my business. but
[04:15] <effraie> i'm building packages for the
[04:15] <Sp4rKy> effraie help me and lutin on E17 repository
[04:15] <effraie> ubuntu related edevelop repo
[04:15] <Sp4rKy> helps*
[04:16] <effraie> so, if the get into ubuntu..
[04:16] <seb128> why not sending patches for buggy packages and contributing to MOTU rather than distributing there elsewhere?
[04:16] <dholbach> I just know that there have been many people who asked for e17 packages already - it'd be great to have them
[04:16] <bashelier> here is a sample of one of effraie's projects, take a look :) http://mefab.ff-irc.net/
[04:16] <Sp4rKy> dholbach: indeed, we're agree with you
[04:16] <effraie> seb128: cause i was really not enough involved in community when i begin to do this
[04:17] <Sp4rKy> anyway, rasterman, the main dev of E17, doesn't want we include this wm in official repos
[04:17] <Zic> because E17 is still in development
[04:17] <effraie> s/dev/huge dev
[04:17] <Zic> :)
[04:17] <Sp4rKy> so we built a third party repository, and effraie manages the ppc builds
[04:17] <Sp4rKy> myriam_rs: there is a 3rd party repo :)
[04:18] <dholbach> ok, let's move the e17 discussion to some other place - I didn't want to stir that up
[04:18] <dholbach> effraie: do you plan to become a MOTU?
[04:18] <myriam_rs> Sp4rKy: I know, I already use e17 in Ubuntu :-)
[04:18] <effraie> but, the main moint of this application is ubuntu-fr locoteam, not my packaging stuff, i think
[04:18] <effraie> so, dholbach why not, but it's not my main goal
[04:18] <effraie> s/moint/point
[04:18] <dholbach> I'd encourage you :)
[04:19] <effraie> thanks ^^
[04:19] <jsgotangco> effraie: right, thanks for pointing that out, i was about to ask about your plans for the loco
[04:19] <effraie> ubuntu fr locoteam is a huge community, and there a lot of work
[04:19] <dholbach> for how long have you been involved in the loco?
[04:20] <effraie> well, the fr loco is an asociation, covered by french law
[04:20] <effraie> the, the "offficial" membership is a bit complex
[04:20] <dholbach> I need to step out for just a few minutes - we should still have quorum with Burgundavia around though. brb.
[04:20] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:20] <effraie> i'm acting in it from 1 or 2 years
[04:21] <effraie> but i''m an "official" member still 3 or 4 month
[04:21] <Burgundavia> what are the requirements to get in?
[04:21] <effraie> be involved
[04:21] <effraie> but the main point is not to be "official" membeer
[04:22] <effraie> there is only 9 official member
[04:22] <effraie> cause of law related complexity
[04:22] <effraie> but
[04:22] <Burgundavia> aside from being a member and the website stuff, what else have you been doing with the -fr locoteam?
[04:22] <effraie> the main core for ubuntu-fr community is about 20/30 people
[04:23] <effraie> well, i'm working on french planet, forums, parties, -classroom...
[04:23] <jsgotangco> french parties? =)
[04:23] <effraie> representaion, contact with other french free software organisations
[04:23] <effraie> jsgotangco: yep
[04:23] <bashelier> jsgotangco: we got 1300 people on last french install party
[04:24] <jsgotangco> 0_0
[04:24] <Zic> jsgotangco: and a second edition is planned
[04:24] <effraie> and for the next one, we did invitte sam hocevar, new DPL
[04:24] <Zic> about Ubuntu Studio version
[04:24] <bashelier> :)
[04:24] <effraie> for a talk
[04:24] <jsgotangco> nice
[04:24] <jsgotangco> based on activities, I'm happy to give +1
[04:25] <effraie> one of my prefered project is the classroom channel
[04:25] <effraie> wich is a very powerfull medium to involved
[04:25] <effraie> -d people
[04:25] <jsgotangco> ok
[04:25] <jsgotangco> any more questions for effraie?
[04:25] <MikeB-> none here +1
[04:26] <effraie> :)
[04:26] <Burgundavia> +1 for me
[04:26] <johnc4510> :)  i'm here
[04:26] <dholbach> +1 from me too
[04:26] <jsgotangco> great!
[04:26] <dholbach> congratulations effraie
[04:26] <Sp4rKy> congrats effraie :)
[04:26] <gpocentek> congrats effraie ! :)
[04:26] <lamalex> congrats!
[04:26] <Adri2000> congrats effraie!
[04:26] <effraie> thanks :)
[04:27] <bashelier> congrats effraie!
[04:27] <jsgotangco> johnc4510: go for it
[04:27] <Zic> congrats effraie \o/
[04:27] <johnc4510> Hi, I'm John Crawford (Ubuntero) A founding member and team leader of the Ubuntu-Arizona Loco Team. Here is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Johnc4510?action=show and our team page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam?action=show and my Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/~johnc4510-cox Thank you for your consideration. :->
[04:27] <effraie> thank you, myriam_rs
[04:27] <jsgotangco> "The hottest loco on earth"
[04:27] <Vorian> I'm here to cheer for johnc4510!!!
[04:27] <johnc4510> ty br24
[04:27] <Vorian> johnc4510 has been the driving force behind the Arizona LoCo team.  He lives the values of Ubuntu, and is open to accepting all who wish to participate on the Arizona team.  John thoughtfully sends out weekly newsletters to all in the team.  I strongly recommend a +1 for johnc4510
[04:27] <johnc4510> ty Vorian
[04:27] <johnc4510> :)
[04:27] <br24> johnc4510 has provided good direction for all members of the AZ team in reaching our goals
[04:28] <jsonder> John4510 _is_ organized
[04:28] <etank> I would like to cheer for johnc4510. He and his team have been doing some great stuff. Our team (Kentucky) has benefited from some of the ideas that he has started.
[04:28] <johnc4510> jsonder: ty
[04:28] <johnc4510> etank: ty
[04:28] <MikeB-> atoponce asked me to send this endorsement of johnc4510
[04:28] <etank> +1 for johnc4510 from me
[04:28] <MikeB->  johnc4510 has been a great asset to the az team. they have flourished under his leadership and are easily heading for team approval. it would be a great asset to the ubuntu membership to add him as member
[04:29] <jsgotangco> its also listed in his wiki page
[04:29] <dholbach> johnc4510: you say you want to structure the goals for the az team - do you have any plans already?
[04:30] <johnc4510> our plans are to advocate ubuntu and open source
[04:30] <johnc4510> we want to pull in the lugs in state to begin with
[04:30] <johnc4510> also to use libraries to distribute cd's
[04:31] <johnc4510> also use colleges for demos
[04:31] <johnc4510> we are a new team     just since april 12 of 05
[04:32] <johnc4510> organizing has been our first goal
[04:32] <johnc4510> now on to spreading ubuntu
[04:32] <johnc4510> :P\
[04:32] <dholbach> did you have any problems/challenges with the organisation?
[04:32] <johnc4510> not really, things kind of feel into place
[04:33] <johnc4510> over 40 members in launchpad in 2 months
[04:33] <johnc4510> :)
[04:33] <Vorian> WOW!
[04:33] <Vorian> :)
[04:34] <jsgotangco> looks good to me
[04:34] <johnc4510> team members have been exceptional
[04:34] <johnc4510> br24: ty
[04:34] <dholbach> any more questions?
[04:34] <jsgotangco> i give my +1
[04:35] <etank> woot johnc4510
[04:35] <johnc4510> My thanks to all, especially Vorian, atoponce, etank , br24 and jsonder for coming.
[04:35] <dholbach> +1 from me too - lots of good contributions and good coordination with other teams
[04:35] <MikeB-> +1 for me, fantastic work
[04:35] <johnc4510> MikeB-: ty
[04:35] <dholbach> Burgundavia, elmo?
[04:35] <Burgundavia> +1 from me
[04:35] <dholbach> congratulations johnc4510 :)
[04:35] <effraie> congrats johnc4510 :)
[04:36] <Vorian> CONGRATS JOHNC4510!!!!!!
[04:36] <johnc4510> dholbach: ty
[04:36] <Vorian> \o/
[04:36] <br24> congrats johnc4510!!!
[04:36] <dholbach> Jacob: your stage
[04:36] <jsgotangco> johnc4510: keep it up! may the AZ team be hotter by august
[04:36] <Jacob> Hi! I'm Jacob Peddicord, otherwise known as jacobmp92 or just Jacob. I've been using Ubuntu for a little more than a year now, and I'm currently running Gutsy regardless of all warnings ;). My wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JacobPeddicord & LP: https://launchpad.net/~jacobmp92
[04:36] <johnc4510> jsgotangco: hope so
[04:36] <johnc4510> myriam_rs: ty
[04:36] <Jacob> I've been a member of the Ohio LoCo Team since back when it started in late November. I help run our IRC channel and website. I also wrote the support system used on the site, currently available to LoCo teams on Launchpad as "loco-drupal-support".
[04:36] <Jacob> I also am currently the leader for the Unanswered Posts Team on the forums. While this team is relatively new, we currently have some interesting methods for dealing with topics, one of them including an off-site tracker used internally by the team.
[04:36] <Jacob> My future plans include releasing some tools to help new LoCo teams to get a website up and running with Drupal quickly, going to Ohio Linux Fest, and continuing to use and support Ubuntu. </Jacob>
[04:37] <Vorian> :)
[04:37] <Vorian> I'm here to cheer for Jacob!
[04:37] <Vorian> Jacob is one of the strongest members on the Ohio LoCo team.  He is the Moderator of the Ohio LoCo Forum.  He it the Team Leader of the Unanswered Posts team on Ubuntu Forums.  He is the webmaster for the Ohio LoCo team.
[04:37] <jsgotangco> nice team
[04:37] <jsgotangco> =)
[04:37] <Vorian> He developed the F2F (Face To Face Support) Feature for the Ohio Website http://Ohio.ubuntu-us.org. Which is described here http://vorian.org/?p=64. Jacob cleaned up the code so that all loco teams could have it (even Canonical was asking for it) If it weren't't for Jacob, our LoCo team would be half of what it is today.
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> which rocks btw, I came to give him a big up just for that system.
[04:37] <Jacob> thanks Vorian :)
[04:37] <meatballhat> I'm also here to cheer for Jacob!   Jacob has been a great asset to our LoCo Team, and I strongly believe that he will be an even greater asset to the Ubuntu Community as a whole.  He has the technical background to grow into a strong member of the developement community, and also has interpersonal communication skills that are hard to come by.  for member in OhioLoCoTeam: meatballhat.cheers(Jacob)
[04:37] <Vorian> Besides all that, Jacob is a stand up gentleman and a scholar, well deserving of Ubuntu Membership.
[04:37] <Jacob> thanks also meatballhat :)
[04:38] <jsgotangco> Jacob: what would you like to focus in the coming days/months?
[04:39] <phanatic> dholbach: i'm here to cheer for coNP, but have to run now, so here is my testimonial: as the loco leader for the hungarian ubuntu team, i can tell that he's been a great help with administering our virtual machine, and also helped to organize super cool ubuntu t-shirts for the masses in hungary. i hope he'll become an ubuntu member, he deserves it (i've also seen several uploads by him recently :))
[04:39] <Jacob> jsgotangco: I'd like to focus my work probably around the LoCo tool systems i've been developing
[04:39] <dholbach> thanks phanatic
[04:39] <etank> I would like to cheer for Jacob as well. Our team has started using the F2F module that he wrote. He is always willing to help and seems to be a great guy.
[04:39] <Jacob> :)
[04:40] <jsgotangco> ok
[04:41] <jsgotangco> there are lots of testimonials happening
[04:41] <gsuveg> dholbach: i need run out within 20min too. im work with coNP on website and t-shirt project. i hope to he'll become an umbuntu member.
[04:41] <Vorian> jsgotangco, that's because jacob is so awesome :)
[04:41] <Jacob> hehe
[04:41] <etank> amen
[04:42] <jsgotangco> judging from LP activity, its all good
[04:42] <jsgotangco> happy to give +1
[04:42] <Burgundavia> if people need to give a testimonial, PM any of teh CC members and we can paste it when it is time
[04:42] <MikeB-> +1 here
[04:42] <dholbach> how many members does the unansweredposts team have?
[04:43] <jsgotangco> oh yeah
[04:43] <Jacob> dholbach: somewhere around 25 currently I think
[04:43] <Jacob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showgroups.php at the bottom
[04:43] <dholbach> nice - keep up the good work on that - I think it's a fabulous idea
[04:43] <dholbach> +1 from me too
[04:43] <jsgotangco> answering the unanswered posts in a sensible way?
[04:43] <jsgotangco> =)
[04:43] <Jacob> yep:)
[04:44] <jsgotangco> rock, just like blatant erros and awkward grammar ;-)
[04:44] <Vorian> His team does an awesome job with that jsgotangco
[04:44] <Jacob> heh
[04:44] <Burgundavia> +1 from me
[04:44] <jsgotangco> great, Burgundavia, elmo?
[04:44] <jsgotangco> nice!
[04:44] <jsgotangco> congrats Jacob!
[04:44] <Jacob> :-D
[04:44] <jsgotangco> Joe_CoT: next
[04:44] <Joe_CoT> :)
[04:45] <etank> congrats Jacob
[04:45] <Vorian> \o/ Jacob !!!!!!!
[04:45] <Joe_CoT> Hello. I'm Joe Terranova, and I'm the team leader for the New Jersey Local Community Team. Since I took over the team in November, I've been working to get our team active and approved, and I've been organizing events and recruiting in the New Jersey Area. As well, I've been working with the Pennsylvania team to help them with their events in the Philly area as they got started as a team.
[04:45] <Joe_CoT> I'm happy to see the Pennsylvania Team get approved today, and hopefully I'll be back here with my team in the following months. My approval application is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JoeTerranova
[04:45] <Jacob> thanks etank, Vorian, meatballhat, and anyone else i missed :)
[04:45] <johnc4510> Jacob: congrats
[04:45] <pleia2> I'm here to support Joe_CoT, I've worked with him on a couple projects with the PA LoCo team, he did a whole presentation about Ubuntu at one of our events that had a pretty outstanding audience and reception
[04:46] <lamalex> yay joe_cot +1!!
[04:46] <Joe_CoT> lamalex, you're not on the CC, but thanks ;D
[04:46] <lamalex> hah not yet
[04:46] <MikeB-> he is a thumbs up from atoponce for joe_CoT: <atoponce> Joe_CoT has been very active in the US Teams project, willing to help where he can. he's been a great asset to both the NJ team (his home team) and the PA team, and very active in the community. he would make a great addition as well
[04:46] <etank> i second what atoponce had to say.
[04:47] <Burgundavia> let me say again how pleased I am that the US teams are helping each other out this way
[04:47] <jsgotangco> i agree
[04:47] <Joe_CoT> hey, PA's only a bridge away :)
[04:47] <jsgotangco> and the NJ team photo looksl ike that of a rock band
[04:47] <dholbach> Joe_CoT: what have you been focusing on in getting the loco team started?
[04:47] <Joe_CoT> jedijf has been flyering for my NJ event for weeks
[04:48] <jsgotangco> how did the june installfest go
[04:48] <Joe_CoT> We had 2 regional meetings to get people interested; one in South Jersey, one in Central. I've been recruiting at the local LUGs, and working with them for events -- we're having an installfest with CHLUG this saturday.
[04:48] <Joe_CoT> Hopefully another with Princeton LUG in August.
[04:49] <jsgotangco> oopss it hasnt happened yet
[04:49] <Joe_CoT> I did a presentation at Cherry Hill LUG which picked up 3 members, we've gathered a few for Lug/IP, and I'll be in princeton in August for a stump speech there
[04:49] <jsgotangco> nice preparation though
[04:49] <Joe_CoT> thanks
[04:50] <jsgotangco> "he is always just a bridge toll away"
[04:51] <jsgotangco> :D
[04:51] <Joe_CoT> We have 48 members on Launchpad -- in reality, around 4 or 5 active. Hopefully I'll get that number a bit higher soon, and I'll be back here for my team ;)
[04:51] <jedijf> and on most days he can scrape up the toll :)
[04:51] <jsgotangco> i think that's a very good start
[04:51] <jsgotangco> hmm hold on someone's screaming outside and its past 10pm here
[04:51] <jsgotangco> brb
[04:52] <dholbach> MikeB-, Burgundavia, elmo: any more questions for Joe_CoT?
[04:52] <Burgundavia> nope
[04:52] <dholbach> Joe_CoT has my thumbs up too: +1 - good work on leading the team
[04:52] <Burgundavia> +1 for another excellent US team
[04:52] <MikeB-> nope +1
[04:53] <Joe_CoT> elmo? :)
[04:53] <dholbach> ok, shall we move on? elmo and jsgotangco (hope everything's alright at his end) will cast their votes in a bit
[04:54] <elmo> +1
[04:54] <dholbach> great
[04:54] <dholbach> welcome Joe_CoT
[04:54] <Joe_CoT> :) thanks guys, and thanks to everyone who came to support me
[04:54] <etank> congrats Joe_CoT
[04:54] <dholbach> coreymoon77 does not seem to be around
[04:54] <Jacob> congrats Joe_CoT!
[04:54] <dholbach> calc: your stage
[04:54] <jsgotangco> doh
[04:54] <calc> Hello, my name is Chris. I've been a Linux user since Slackware 2.1 (03/1995). I have been involved with Debian for 9 years, and a Debian Developer for 7 of those. I have maintained various packages for Debian including KDE and Xiph.org packages. I also wrote kde.mk for cdbs and menu-xdg. I have used Ubuntu since the 4.10 preview (Sept 2004), and am the new Ubuntu OpenOffice.org maintainer.
[04:54] <lamalex> yay joe!!
[04:54] <ogra> yay calc !
[04:54] <Vorian> congats Joe_CoT :)
[04:54] <jsgotangco> a neighbor had his tv really loud and was watching big brother sheeshh
[04:54] <keescook> \o/ calc
[04:55] <jsgotangco> i'm +1 for Joe_CoT
[04:56] <bryce> yay calc!
[04:56] <asac> hey calc!
[04:56] <calc> hello everyone :)
[04:56] <Riddell> I support calc, Kubuntu uses much of his KDE work
[04:57] <dholbach> calc: I've seen you quite often around in ubuntu channels, even before you become OO.o maintainer - when did you join the ubuntu community?
[04:58] <calc> dholbach: i started using ubuntu and joined the irc channels around Sept 2004
[04:58] <jsgotangco> right
[04:58] <ogra> dholbach, he was around in #ubuntu when both of us were no motus yet :)
[04:58] <jsgotangco> lots of history
[04:59] <dholbach> on your way with the community, did you see things you'd like to see improved in Ubuntu and the community as a whole?
[04:59] <calc> i remember using ubuntu on my amd64 laptop at Gnome Summit 2004 which was early oct 2004
[05:01] <calc> one place i saw that could use some improvement is that Texas doesn't have loco yet, there is a Dallas loco and Houston has a few people that have started one, but needs more coordination
[05:01] <calc> i have been thinking about trying to help out with the Houston one or trying to form a state loco
[05:02] <dholbach> nice
[05:02] <calc> Houston's meetings seem to occur mostly on the south side which is ~ 70mi away
[05:02] <jsgotangco> yeah i noticed that on the wiki page
[05:03] <dinda> calc: there are several folks from the Woodlands who want meetings up there
[05:03] <calc> dinda: that sounds good then, i know several people in Huntsville that also want to have a group, so that could work out nicely
[05:04] <dholbach> Burgundavia, jsgotangco, elmo, MikeB-: questions?
[05:04] <calc> dinda: Conroe is around 20-30m away from both locations
[05:04] <jsgotangco> i'm pretty happy +1
[05:04] <Burgundavia> seems good to me
[05:04] <Burgundavia> +!
[05:04] <jsgotangco> i'm surprised though that its only now
[05:04] <elmo> presumptive +1
[05:04] <Burgundavia> +1, rather
[05:04] <dinda> I'm down in Galveston so I end up driving into Houston for meetings and I help organize them
[05:05] <MikeB-> +1 here
[05:05] <calc> dinda: ah, yea houston metro is a very large area
[05:05] <dholbach> +1 from me too, welcome calc
[05:05] <calc> thanks all for supporting my application for member :)
[05:05] <dholbach> I think we've run out of time - is the kernel team around already?
[05:05] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:05] <BenC> yeah :)
[05:05] <ogra> welcome calc
[05:06] <dholbach> so sorry everybody for not getting around to your application, we'll announce a new meeting time shortly
[05:06] <BenC> dholbach: we wait patiently, take your time
[05:06] <hjmf> oops :(
[05:06] <hjmf> I was the next one
[05:06] <bryce> heh, I just missed it
[05:06] <jsgotangco> let's get to it then
[05:06] <BenC> dholbach: we have a short kernel meeting, so if you need more time...
[05:07] <dholbach> elmo, MikeB-, jsgotangco, Burgundavia: do you know who will do the approvals in launchpad?
[05:07] <jsgotangco> anyone of us can actually do that
[05:07] <myriam_rs> sad, I was waiting too and don't know if I can make it next time :-(
[05:07] <jsgotangco> i'll start approving
[05:07] <dholbach> we have 8 more members on the list
[05:07] <jsgotangco> i don't think we can cover all 8
[05:07] <coNP> in fact only 7
[05:07] <MikeB-> I just got a helpdesk call, and have to head out
[05:07] <WaVeR> :o
[05:08] <dholbach> ok, better adjourn then.
[05:08] <MikeB-> sorry all
[05:08] <dholbach> sorry everybody
[05:08] <hjmf> :( OK
[05:08] <peanutb> whens the next one?
[05:08] <jsgotangco> well just prioritise starting from hjmf
[05:09] <jsgotangco> in 2 weeks
[05:09] <jsgotangco> but we'll have to adjust the sched
[05:09] <peanutb> grr I'll be in europe
[05:09] <jsgotangco> perhaps 21UTC and up
[05:09] <hjmf> not sure If I'll be available then, I'm pretty busy
[05:09] <myriam_rs> could we have a timeslot ASAP? I can't attend during daytime on other days than Mondays and Tuesdays :-(
[05:09] <dholbach> we'll find a time for everybody
[05:10] <elkbuntu> dholbach, famous last words
[05:10] <jsgotangco> we'll make sure to have a sched by next week
[05:10] <WaVeR> Or check the wiki page for everybody and approve them :D
[05:10] <dholbach> have a nice day everybody - BenC the channel is all yours
[05:10] <BenC> dholbach: thanks
[05:10] <dholbach> elkbuntu: if not this meeting, then the next
[05:10] <jsgotangco> there's no rush to membership no?
[05:11] <BenC> pkl_, kylem, amitk, rtg_: ping
[05:11] <rtg_> BenC: pong
[05:11] <amitk> benc: pong
[05:11] <pkl_> yeah I'm here
[05:11] <kylem> yawn.
[05:11] <BenC> This is going to be quick actually
[05:12] <zul> just lurking
[05:12] <BenC> Team status: you guys one to shoot a one or two liner on anything you're working on?
[05:13] <BenC> tossing back a pint doesn't count either :)
[05:13] <rtg_> Audio hibernate
[05:13] <pkl_> well that's been my main activity the last five days over Glastonbury
[05:13] <amitk> Intel poulsbo patches
[05:13] <pkl_> livecd, unionfs 2.0
[05:14] <cr3> KVM access and reporting hardware information on certification.canonical.com for Tribe-2 certification round
[05:14] <amitk> fixing up wiki instructions for reporting kernel bugs
[05:14] <kylem> display bugs
[05:14] <rtg_> madwifi in l-r-m
[05:15] <BenC> Anything you guys need help with, any issues we maybe need to address?
[05:15] <amitk> being a general busybody - to try and figure out what is what in ubuntu
[05:16] <BenC> amitk: we'll consider that one on-going :)
[05:16] <BenC> Now if I can just figure out how to pull up a list of distro-qa bugs on linux-source-2.6.22
[05:16] <cr3> BenC: I may need your feedback this week about the relevance of the hardware reported on certification.canonical.com
[05:17] <BenC> cr3: Ok...do you want to setup a time with me to talk about that? Steve is supposed to be getting me a salesforce account so I can add the hardware the kernel team has
[05:17] <BenC> and I'll probably need some training on how to use it
[05:18] <cr3> BenC: last week, I managed to get some salesforce changes committed so that I can integrate synchronize the hardware in salesforce and certification.canonical.com
[05:19] <cr3> BenC: so, you and your team might not even need to deal with salesforce at all
[05:19] <cr3> BenC: I'll ping sg about it to make sure he agrees
[05:19] <BenC> cr3: mdz wants me to track all of our hw and its location
[05:19] <BenC> and we very much need to
[05:19] <cr3> BenC: yep, that'll be done automatically with this integration
[05:20] <BenC> how will you guys even know what hw we have? :)
[05:20] <cr3> BenC: I totally agree, keeping hardware in multiple locations is a pain: salesforce, wiki, etc.
[05:21] <cr3> BenC: anyways, we'll follow up on this topic outside this meeting :)
[05:21] <BenC> cr3: sure thing
[05:21] <BenC> Well, I'm having problems figuring out distro-qa, or if it was renamed
[05:22] <BenC> Ah, think I have it
[05:23] <BenC> Hmm, no qa bugs on 2.6.22
[05:23] <BenC> 4 on 2.6.20 though
[05:23] <BenC> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~canonical-qa/?field.searchtext=linux-source-2.6.20&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[05:24] <BenC> there's the nice long URL
[05:24] <BenC> Only two are publicly visible
[05:24] <BenC> kylem: you know anything about 119977?
[05:25] <BenC> or bug #119976
[05:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119976 in linux-source-2.6.20 "All the task previous are killed after resumed from S3 on Santa Rosa with Crestline" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119976
[05:25] <BenC> both are crestline/santa rosa related
[05:25] <kylem> no. i can't test it, since mine doesn't have an acpi bios.
[05:26] <kylem> s/test/reproduce/
[05:26] <BenC> kylem: do we need to address them in feisty, and has the submitter tested them in gutsy?
[05:28] <kylem> it seems to be feisty fom reading the bug report.
[05:28] <BenC> well I know it's against feisty, but do you think we need to worry about fixing them there :)
[05:28] <kylem> no, we should focus on gutsy for now.
[05:29] <BenC> Ok, can you request they test with tribe-2 then?
[05:29] <kylem> sure.
[05:29] <BenC> If you think we wont fix them for feisty, then maybe mark them "Wont fix"
[05:29] <BenC> kylem: thanks
[05:30] <BenC> Bulk of the meeting is done...any one have anything they want to toss in before we cut out?
[05:30] <pkl_> nope
[05:31] <BenC> Ok, then everyone have a good week...the kernel team will be reporting from london on the next meeting :)
[05:31] <zul> not from the community...
[05:32] <BenC> thanks everyone
[08:43] <freepenguin> hello everybody
[09:23] <coreymon77> i cant believe that after all this time and all this preparation
[09:24] <coreymon77> i end up missing the CC meeting
[09:24] <ScottK> coreymon77: They didn't get to everybody anyway.  You'd have gotten rescheduled even if you'd been there.
[09:25] <coreymon77> why, because i was a bit farther down the list?
[09:37] <ScottK> coreymon77: Yes.
[09:38] <ScottK> Most of the meeting was taken up by the new loco teams.  They only did a few new members.
[10:23] <coreymon77> ScottK: correction, they would have gotetn to me
[10:26] <coreymon77> talk about annoying
[10:40] <myriam_rs> hi coreymon77 :-)
[10:40] <coreymon77> hi
[10:40] <myriam_rs> seen my mail?
[10:41] <coreymon77> ya
[10:43] <ScottK> OK.  Sorry then.
[11:20] <coreymon77> i am completely up the creek now


[00:48] <callmepk> good morning
[04:01] <jibel> Good morning
[04:07] <duflu> Morning jibel
[04:12] <jibel> Hi duflu
[04:19] <callmepk> good morning jibel duflu
[04:21] <jibel> Hi callmepk
[04:24] <duflu> Hi callmepk
[04:28] <jibel> I've been hit by bug 1871538 again this morning
[04:29] <jibel> If anyone has an idea how to collect any useful information, I'm all ears
[05:30] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:45] <duflu> Morning seb128
[05:48] <duflu> Back later...
[05:51] <callmepk> morning seb128
[05:54] <luna_> morning
[06:20] <didrocks> good morning
[06:56] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[06:58] <didrocks> hey ricotz
[07:04] <duflu> Morning luna_, didrocks, ricotz
[07:04] <didrocks> morning duflu
[07:14] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:15] <ricotz> hey didrocks duflu
[07:15] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN
[07:15] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz
[07:16] <ricotz> oSoMoN, jyi https://launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next/+packages
[07:16] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN !
[07:16] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:17] <oSoMoN> ricotz, thanks, I was afk yesterday but I'll push builds to ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa in a moment
[07:18] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I assume 81.0.2?
[07:19] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I was thinking 82.0, but better to wait for your builds to complete I guess
[07:30] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[07:30] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk jibel duflu seb128 luna_ didrocks ricotz oSoMoN :)
[07:53] <oSoMoN> hey marcustomlinson
[07:53] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson
[07:54] <didrocks999> hey marcustomlinson
[08:00] <seb128> hey to those who joined during my morning errands, how are you?
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing ok thanks, you?
[08:04] <Laney> yo
[08:04] <didrocks999> hey seb128, Laney
[08:04] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm alright, hopefully it's a quiet day and I can participate to the iso testing hangout and get some other things done :-)
[08:04] <seb128> lut Didier, hey Lany
[08:04] <jibel> salut marcustomlinson and all
[08:04] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:09] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 & jibel
[08:09] <jibel> hola oSoMoN
[08:11] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:17] <Laney> hey didrocks999 marcustomlinson jibel oSoMoN duflu
[08:17] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[08:18] <jibel> Good morning Laney
[08:20] <luna_> morning
[08:26] <duflu> jibel, how do I confirm the milestone/build numbers I am seeing are for the daily image I am using?
[08:28] <duflu> Oh, the version is in the right column on the builds page :)
[08:31] <callmepk> hey marcustomlinson
[08:31] <oSoMoN> seb128, shared-mime-info 2.0-1 is in unstable, do we still want to sync? (can't do myself)
[08:31] <callmepk> and morning/afternoon luna_ didrocks999 ricotz oSoMoN
[08:32] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk
[08:38] <seb128> oSoMoN, oh, sorry, I though you could/were syncing it last week
[08:38] <seb128> I will do it
[08:38] <seb128> did you manage to get some extra endorsement?
[08:39] <seb128> yeah, you got Didier +1
[08:39] <seb128> time to send your application for the next meeting
[08:39] <Laney> I'm writing that now too, how timely
[08:39] <Laney> was just looking at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Iain+Lane&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=Olivier+Tilloy&sponsoree_search=name
[08:39] <Laney> seems I didn't sponsor too much
[08:45] <didrocks999> sponsoring is one thing, but reviewing MP is equal to me
[08:47] <Laney> yeah, I just don't know of a nice webpage for that :p
[08:48] <didrocks999> even unnice would do :)
[08:48] <ricotz> Laney, marcustomlinson, I regarding libreoffice 7.0.2-0ubuntu1 -- the test build succeeded here and some runtime testing worked out -- https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-prereleases/+sourcepub/11659977/+listing-archive-extra
[08:49] <ricotz> depends on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1899456
[08:54] <Laney> ricotz: did you email ubuntu-doc as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze ?
[08:54] <Laney> ah Gunnar found it anyway
[08:54] <Laney> nm (but do note that in case you aren't so lucky next time)
[08:57] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, Laney, which location do you prefer to pull the actual source package from?
[09:10] <Laney> I'll let marcustomlinson reply, I will be reviewing so can't sponsor :>
[09:10] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: we can copy it from that ppa that's fine
[09:11] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, ok, but that is not the source to be uploaded
[09:11] <marcustomlinson> but that's the build you tested
[09:11] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, the changelog is not sufficient for the archive
[09:12] <ricotz> yes, only the changelog and version needs a minor tweak
[09:12] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/groovy-7.0&id=8b35616fbefdcafc76b6095ddeed7d7c5ccdd65c
[09:13] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/
[09:14] <ricotz> let me know if you require the full source, otherwise you can put it together by dget'ing from the ppa
[09:41] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, the full source package is at https://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/
[09:42] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: I have uploaded already
[09:42] <marcustomlinson> sorry, waiting for the LP link to work to share it
[09:43] <ricotz> alright https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice
[09:43] <marcustomlinson> yeah
[09:44] <ricotz> cheers
[10:20] <seb128> jamesh, marcustomlinson, Trevinho, tkamppeter, kenvandine, weekly summary reminder?
[10:20] <oSoMoN> thanks didrocks999 and Laney for the endorsements, I'll announce my application later today. Switching to ISO testing for now
[10:20] <seb128> & oSoMoN
[11:21] <luna_> oSoMoN: have you packaged Firefox 81.0.2 ?
[11:22] <oSoMoN> luna_, I'm on it, it's in the groovy queue (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=firefox) and I'll prepare the update for stable releases
[11:22] <luna_> oSoMoN: perfect thanks
[11:23] <oSoMoN> jibel, care to confirm bug #1899620 ?
[11:37] <jibel> oSoMoN, done
[11:50] <luna_> oSoMoN: its there now thanks :)
[11:51] <luna_> will not attend the meeting today, as i have other things that collides
[12:27] <luna_> will read the log afterwards however as i still idle here
[12:28] <seb128> luna_, 👍
[13:27] <hellsworth> good morning folks
[13:27] <kenvandine> hey hellsworth
[13:27] <hellsworth> hi kenvandine
[13:28] <jibel> Good morning hellsworth
[13:29] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[13:29] <hellsworth> hi there jibel seb128 ! i'm good. coming off a long weekend.. it was nice
[13:29] <hellsworth> ready to do some iso testing today :)
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-13
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 13 13:30:09 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth and kenvandine
[13:30] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
[13:30] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:30] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:30] <hellsworth> ~o~
[13:30] <callmepk> o/
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <didrocks999> h e y
[13:31] <seb128> ;-)
[13:31] <seb128> let's get started!
[13:31] <Laney> I 8 U
[13:31] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:31] <jibel> o/
[13:31] <kenvandine> o/
[13:31] <seb128> no desktop entry
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> no unassigned one
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> bug #1899473 from d_oko
[13:32] <seb128> oSoMoN, any opinion?
[13:33] <seb128> it's the only report so far so I would say it hasn't shown the sign to be a rls issue but we should keep an eye on it
[13:33] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll try to reproduce it
[13:33] <oSoMoN> and assigning myself
[13:34] <seb128> thx
[13:34] <seb128> let's notfixing it for now
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1872159 is handled, just those aren't filtered out yet, I need to ping Brian about it
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1899206
[13:36] <seb128> seems like a SRU regression so something we should handle
[13:36] <seb128> Trevinho, could you check on that one?
[13:36] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah
[13:36] <seb128> thx
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1892486
[13:37] <seb128> 'Looks like the crash won't ever happen in a normal Ubuntu session so dropped severity.'
[13:37] <seb128> so why did you tag it Daniel?
[13:37] <seb128> it seems an easy one to fix and we should probably do the tweak but not rls I would think
[13:37] <didrocks999> ack
[13:37] <Laney> indeed
[13:38] <seb128> bug #1880508 is still assigned to tseliot but I kept it as a testcase for that filtered tweak bdmurray is supposed to do
[13:38] <oSoMoN> agreed
[13:39] <seb128> that's it for focal incoming
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <seb128> nothing new there
[13:39] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:40] <seb128> bug #1897224
[13:40] <seb128> that's being discussed upstream and handled by jamesh and duflu
[13:40] <kenvandine> that should be rls
[13:40] <seb128> Trevinho you might need to help with a cherry pick upload
[13:40] <Laney> seems worth tracking to me, even if not our default session it's pretty important for other distros
[13:41] <Trevinho> ok
[13:41] <seb128> right, needs to land upstream, we can distro patch help other distros...
[13:41] <tseliot> seb128, isn't that a duplicate of LP: #1768499 ?
[13:41] <seb128> but agreed, we need to follow up on that one
[13:41] <Laney> so assign it to jamesh imho
[13:41] <seb128> ack
[13:42] <Trevinho> I was reading that bug upstream, so I felt like it needed some work :)
[13:42] <Trevinho> better if you can ask him to have a look, otherwise I can jump...
[13:42] <seb128> tseliot, could be, I didn't investigate the details, it's just on our list, feel free to dup if appropriate
[13:42] <seb128> Trevinho, k, I will do that then, thanks
[13:42] <seb128> bug #1859308
[13:42] <seb128> that one was also a testbug kept for the filtering improvement
[13:43] <seb128> I will clean to keep only one of those
[13:43] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:43] <seb128> those are assigned
[13:43] <tseliot> ok
[13:43] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:43] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:44] <seb128> xorg-server needs work but t_jaalton said it was on his todolist
[13:44] <luna_> can say that the Firefox 81.0.2 build works running it atm
[13:44] <seb128> luna_, ah, nice one, thank you
[13:44] <oSoMoN> thanks luna_ for the feedback!
[13:45] <seb128> k, that's it for proposed migration
[13:45] <seb128> #topic AOB
[13:45] <seb128> release is next week, ISO testing is happening if you want to join
[13:46] <luna_> seb128: at what time/date ?
[13:46] <Laney> if you know how to make screen reading work for apps run under sudo, come contribute a fix :>
[13:47] <seb128> luna_, no specific date, a bunch of people have been doing installs today
[13:47] <luna_> seb128: ah alright
[13:47] <seb128> luna_, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds/221687/testcases
[13:47] <luna_> thx
[13:47] <seb128> issues can be discussed here
[13:47] <seb128> anything else?
[13:48] <seb128> kenvandine, we should discuss how we deal with snaps as a team again at some point, but probably doesn't need to be in the meeting
[13:49] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:49] <seb128> relying on one person to press a button to not have our snap store expire doesn't sound great
[13:49] <marcustomlinson> kenvandine: can you add me as contributor to the snap store snap
[13:49] <seb128> no offense to the work you are doing there :)
[13:50] <kenvandine> we do have collaborators there :)
[13:50] <kenvandine> but yeah
[13:50] <seb128> we didn't know who those are
[13:50] <seb128> and they didn't seem to be around or know themselve they are
[13:50] <seb128> anyway, we have a trello card for that now
[13:50] <seb128> anything else to discuss in the meeting?
[13:51] <seb128> k, seems not
[13:51] <kenvandine> oh... you are right, i never added you to that snap
[13:51] <seb128> let's wrap then an go back to iso testing and other work
[13:51] <seb128> thanks desktoppers!
[13:51] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 13 13:51:35 2020 UTC.
[13:51] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-10-13-13.30.moin.txt
[13:51] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[13:51] <oSoMoN> thanks seb128
[13:51] <luna_> no problem, joined in the middle as i was doing other things and was not in front of the PC but i read along :)
[13:58] <seb128> didrocks, jibel, can you help with reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/fr/302/+translate ? that one could deserve some translator context, I'm unsure to understand how it's used exactly taken out of context as it is there
[13:59] <luna_> seb128: i think its the administrator account to join the AD/Windows/NETBIOS domain, but i might be wrong
[14:01] <seb128> luna_, thanks
[14:30] <luna_> Can't install the latest Atom release on 20.10
[14:32] <luna_> some depencies is missing gconf-service and gvfs-bin
[14:35] <luna_> but gvfs-bin is deprecated in 20.10, where do i report this issue?
[14:37] <Laney> where's the package from?
[14:38] <luna_> the .deb from the Atom github: https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/download/v1.52.0/atom-amd64.deb https://github.com/atom/atom/releases/tag/v1.52.0
[14:39] <seb128> tracker indexer doesn't seem to do its job correctly for me, if I do
[14:39] <seb128> $ echo isotesting > ~/Documents/todolist
[14:39] <seb128> $ tracker search isotesting
[14:39] <seb128> no result
[14:39] <Laney> then I guess atom
[14:39] <seb128> $ tracker status
[14:40] <seb128> doesn't show a difference before and after creating the file
[14:42] <luna_> Laney: got it too work by installing the latest depencies from Debian sid, but yeah
[14:42] <luna_> oh well writing a bug report
[14:43] <luna_> https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/21494
[14:44] <seb128> thanks
[14:44] <Laney> nice one
[14:45] <Laney> hopefully they respond, we get these problems when we drop stuff sometimes
[14:45] <Laney> seb128: on the iso? I have some memory that tracker is disabled there, not sure if that's right
[14:45] <Laney> it seems to work for me in the installed system though (new install, just done)
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, no, new install (in a VM but should do a difference)
[14:46] <seb128> it works if I copy that file to ~
[14:46] <Laney> I did echo foo > Documents/bar
[14:46] <Laney> open nautilus
[14:46] <Laney> type foo
[14:46] <Laney> works
[14:47] <seb128> Documents is listed in the list of locations to index though
[14:47] <seb128> k
[14:47] <Laney> tracker status went from 135 to 136 as well
[14:47] <Laney> :(
[14:48] <seb128> works after restarting tracker-fs-miner
[14:49] <seb128> :/
[14:49] <Laney> BUGSSSSSSSSSS
[15:04] <luna_> Laney: seb128: seems they have fixed it in the 1.53 Beta version
[15:04] <Laney> 👍
[15:08] <seb128> luna_, great
[15:09] <luna_> put in a request to Wimpress and popey to snap it up too
[15:15] <seb128> tseliot, do you know what could be writting WaylandEnable=false to /etc/gdm3/custom.conf in the case of nvidia installations?
[15:18] <luna_> thats solved now too
[15:24] <tseliot> seb128, I am trying to remember. I think it used to be nvidia-prime. It definitely isn't the case any more. I don't think Wayland works unless KMS is enabled, and KMS is not enabled by default.
[16:56] <Laney> seb128: found it with Trevinho, gdm has a bug in the meson port that it overwrites this file instead of writing to /run :S
[16:56] <Trevinho> yeah, quite bad regression
[16:56] <Trevinho> ISO TESTING WON!
[17:03] <Trevinho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1899673
[17:03] <Trevinho> and Ben had fixed it some weeks ago but just because he thought was related to auto-login, didn't get the actual implication for nvidia.
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm tags 33e4cf0 Marco Trevisan upstream/3.38.1 * Upstream version 3.38.1 * https://deb.li/3ZPBi
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm upstream/latest d15c4cc Marco Trevisan * pushed 8 commits * https://deb.li/x1Rl
[18:42] <KGB-0> gdm pristine-tar 54e2de9 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gdm3_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3KgnI
[18:56] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, nice catch!
[18:56] <Trevinho> seb128: I may have it to sponsor soon
[18:56] <seb128> you need a sponsor for gdm?
[19:47] <seb128_> Trevinho, sorry I timeouted earlier, you need sponsoring for gdm?
[19:47] <seb128_> it's annoying that desktop set doens't really cover desktop packages :-/
[20:05] <ItzSwirlz> Oh lol. I use @DebianUpload on twitter to see uploads and I saw the gdm one. :P


[11:38] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:40] <rick_h_> ugh morning
[11:45] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's another one of those. ;)
[11:48] <cscheib> rick_h_++
[14:14] <cmaloney> Would love to know on what planet Unheilig can lead to The Cult
[14:15] <cmaloney> Because my Unheilig mix is now playing "The Cult: She Sells Sanctuary"
[14:15] <cmaloney> That that I completely mind
[14:15] <brousch> On a planet where you have provided insufficient direction for your AI
[14:16] <jrwren> cmaloney: this is why I don't use those silly music services.
[14:19] <cscheib> She Sells Sanctuary brings up old memories of playing Gran Turismo 3 on PS2
[14:34] <cmaloney> jrwren: This is using Echonest on my Squeezebox. :)
[14:34] <cmaloney> so it's my own damn fault. ;)
[14:34] <cmaloney> Though trying to get a decent Wendy Carlos mix is impossible.
[14:34] <jrwren> cmaloney: ha!
[14:35] <cmaloney> Although this is a good start


[16:55] <SchuggerLeo> Hi, does anybody know how to install "spotify" in the latest lubuntu with snap ? snap seem to work, but it finds no package called spotify
[18:28] <milp_wurst> hi, ive got a nano pi neo v2 running ubuntu core and it is missing the usbserial module - is there a way to install this? is there a way to "upgrade" an ubuntu core installation to a full ubuntu server?
[19:13] <ogra_> milp_wurst, the module is definitely there on my ubuntu core install, what image did you use (did you roll it yourself ? )
[19:15]  * ogra_ points to http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/snappy/all-snaps/daily/current/
[19:23] <milp_wurst> i see images there, does one contain usb serial support?
[19:23] <milp_wurst> oh sorry didnt see your first message
[19:23] <milp_wurst> hold on ill look
[19:24] <milp_wurst> i went with "nanopi-neo_ubuntu-oled_4.x.y_YYYYMMDD.img.zip" since i have that oled display
[19:24] <milp_wurst> i guess ill ahve to recompile the kernel
[19:24] <milp_wurst> i dont get the reason for ubuntucore instead of something like raspian or a full ubuntu
[19:24] <milp_wurst> is there a way to make a "proper ubuntu" out of it?
[19:25] <milp_wurst> ogra_: which image are you using?
[19:25] <milp_wurst> are those images bzImages i can just drop into the boot folder?
[19:28] <milp_wurst> i wonder how long compiling the kernel is gonna take with the usb_serial options on and support for ftdi
[19:48] <ogra_> no, these images are pure ubuntu-core images
[19:48] <ogra_> (full disk ones ... install them like any other core image )
[19:48] <ogra_> "nanopi-neo_ubuntu-oled_4.x.y_YYYYMMDD.img.zip" is definitely not an ubuntu-core image
[19:51] <ogra_> istall instructions are at https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/installation-medias
[19:56] <ogra_> (for initial setup you can follow the install instructions section at https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/orange-pi-zero )
[20:22] <milp_wurst> it is based on ubuntu core and im afraid ill lose support for the oled display if i just use a stock ubuntu core image
[20:54] <ogra_> milp_wurst, it is not based on ubuntu-core ... ubuntu core is a readonly IoT product that is only built around snap packages (no dpkg/apt support at all)
[20:55] <ogra_> milp_wurst, you should ask friendlyarm why they claim this, whatever home-hacked images they provide there do not have any relation to ubuntucore
[20:56] <ogra_> (or to ubuntu in general)
[20:57] <ogra_> if their kernel they ship in these images does not support usbserial, you should try to get in touch with them that they fix this, proper ubuntu-core kernels have this module enabled by default (at öeast for all supported images)
[21:04] <milp_wurst> http://wiki.friendlyarm.com/wiki/index.php/NanoPi_NEO#Get_Image_Files
[21:04] <milp_wurst> thats where they claim it is
[21:04] <milp_wurst> i checked their most recent version of that image and it seems to contain usb serial driver modules in /lib/modules - so ill install that now
[21:05] <milp_wurst> im building a rs232-ethernet modem device out of this, ubuntu core wouldnt be the right thing for that purpose i guess
[21:38] <ogra_> milp_wurst, well, ubuntu-core would be perfectly fine for this but you'd have t learn to package your apps as snap packages for that ...
[21:39] <ogra_> secure and properly upgradeable IoT and enbedded are exactly the focus of ubuntu-core
[22:51] <memphisto> hi. I'm using kubuntu 16.04 with no backports.Looking for workaround for snaps showing in kde, dolphin
[22:51] <memphisto>  i know that in newer kde version there is a fix, but i'm sticking to LTS.