[08:32] <xaxxon_> but I can't get any type of decent video support.  sabayon works pretty well straight out of the box, but I hvae no interest in sabayon as a long-term solution
[08:32] <kkathman> MasterShrek:  I tried a sudo kill -9 khelper
[08:32] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: Oh wait, I see it now.
[08:32] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: come again?
[08:32] <amo-ej1> the most recent gutsy updates resulted in the nvidia driver being loaded but not being detected by xorg, anybody else seen this ?
[08:32] <MasterShrek> xaxxon_, did u try the driver from nvidias site?
[08:32] <xaxxon_> no
[08:32] <MasterShrek> xaxxon_, 32-bit?
[08:33] <kkathman> MasterShrek:  That did not kill it either :)
[08:33] <kkathman> hmmm this is odd
[08:33] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: Yes, I can see my ip
[08:33] <xaxxon_> 64
[08:33] <xaxxon_> 100 14 19
[08:33] <MasterShrek> xaxxon_, they have a 64 bit driver too
[08:33] <MasterShrek> yep
[08:33] <MasterShrek> you need to kill x to install it though
[08:33] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: what is your ip address? and now what is the issue?
[08:33] <xaxxon_> I can force text console..
[08:33] <a514> Hi i just used cfdisk and made a primary partition formated with mk2.ext3 mounted it now what do i type for rw permissons?! Thanks
[08:34] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: I'm not gonna give out my ip in a public channel, and the issue is that I can't connect to my browesr through firefox using that ip
[08:35] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: can you ping anything like www.yahoo.com?
[08:35] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, first off your ip would be in your subnet and giving out the 192.168.whatever is not going to be a security risk, as for the firefox issue, make sure that there arent any rules on your router's config about port 80
[08:35] <a514> Hey !!
[08:35] <cjae_> any good with acid rip
[08:36] <GreyWolfe> MasterShrek: No rules for port 80, other than that it is open
[08:36] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, open to your ip? if its open to something else it may not allow it to yours, but im not too sure on that, i dont know networking all that well
[08:36] <GreyWolfe> amidaniel: Sorry, still used to Windows and its<PHONE_NUMBER>7284230980324 vulnerable points. That paranoia is still around.
[08:37] <ferronica> how to install .rpm package
[08:37] <ferronica> in ubuntu 7.04
[08:37] <MasterShrek> ferronica, you need to convert it to a deb
[08:37] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: can you ping anything like www.yahoo.com?
[08:37] <Ce_gokil> gf5yhnxryn
[08:37] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: Yea
[08:37] <MasterShrek> ferronica, is there a debian package of the program you are trying to install?
[08:37] <adammw> Is it possible to install a ubuntu system to a FAT32/FAT16 filesystem?
[08:37] <MasterShrek> yes adammw but why?
[08:38] <heguru> GreyWolfe: what amidaniel meant is (unless you're using some anonymizing software) you IP is already public by joining IRC
[08:38] <cjae_> when using acid rip to to write dvd to an avi what is being selected that it catches the directors version of movie with commentary not just the movie
[08:38] <GreyWolfe> heguru: Yea, I should have known that. It has been a while since I have used IRC, other than in here.
[08:38] <bulmer> shhh lets not tell GreyWolfe of his know ip address :)
[08:38] <bulmer> knonw*
[08:38] <adammw> i am installing it to a usb.
[08:38] <MasterShrek> adammw, yea it will install
[08:39] <MasterShrek> well it should...lol
[08:39] <adammw> thanks. though i might be back
[08:39] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: How do I get it to stop pinging Yahoo?
[08:39] <MasterShrek> ctrl+c
[08:39] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: you can ping any other web server on the internet with no problems right? like google, ubuntu.org etc
[08:40] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: control C
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: Yea, I can ping fine
[08:41] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, do you have any other pcs behind your router? and if so does browsing work with them?
[08:41] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: okay, so you can resolve external ip addresses..whats with firefox again?
[08:41] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: This is the only computer
[08:41] <SuperSayjin> hey
[08:41] <SuperSayjin> quck question
[08:41] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: I can't connect to my router through Firefox, when I enter my ip I get an error saying the page can't be loaded.
[08:41] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, i personally wouldnt have the port rules on the router for it, it should just work without it
[08:42] <SuperSayjin> does ubuntu throttle ur pc?
[08:42] <ferronica> MasterShrek: of same package
[08:42] <ferronica> MasterShrek: yes
[08:42] <francis> you coming early home today
[08:42] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, you dont put your ip in, u put the ip of your router
[08:42] <francis> oops sorry wrong channel
[08:42] <MasterShrek> ferronica, get that and dpkg -i package.deb
[08:42] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: what the heck do you mean by entering your ip address? are you running a web server?
[08:42] <MasterShrek> ferronica, use sudo with that dpkg command too
[08:42] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: I think MasterShrek has the answer I need
[08:42] <heguru> SuperSayjin: can you explain your question?
[08:42] <GreyWolfe> MasterShrek: How do I get the ip of my router?
[08:42] <SuperSayjin> well
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> i have xp
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> and
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> a c2d
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> and for some reason
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> my cpu throttles
[08:43] <ferronica> MasterShrek: okay
[08:43] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> from 2ghz to 1ghz
[08:43] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: I need to open ports on my router
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> and i code media and stuff
[08:43] <MasterShrek> SuperSayjin, it will throttle it down if its not being used, at least thats what mine does
[08:43] <ferronica> MasterShrek: one more thing
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> and its not helping me
[08:43] <ferronica> MasterShrek: regarding themes
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> well
[08:43] <heguru> SuperSayjin: well linux uses powersaving mode, it slows it down when idle
[08:43] <ferronica> MasterShrek: Aurora
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> my pc is at 100%
[08:43] <MasterShrek> GreyWolfe, if you are worried about security i wouldnt do that
[08:43] <SuperSayjin> and it still throttles
[08:43] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: type  netstat -ran  and your router should be the gateway address listed
[08:44] <GreyWolfe> MasterShrek: I am trying this because I am getting some REALLY slow downloads
[08:44] <amidaniel> GreyWolfe: It's usually going to be <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:44] <MasterShrek> u sholdnt have to open ports to surf the web
[08:44] <MasterShrek> CroX, did u get it installed?
[08:44] <GreyWolfe> MasterShrek: And this is for downloads that should be quite fast
[08:44] <CroX> MasterShrek: Up and running again, thanks alot!
[08:44] <shorthand> how how do i install java runtime?
[08:44] <MasterShrek> =D
[08:45] <SuperSayjin> heguru: so would ubuntu do that 2
[08:45] <heguru> SuperSayjin: one min, let me remember how to change powernowd (powersaving daemon) to not throttle
[08:45] <shorthand> java runtime environment <--how can i install this?
[08:45] <MasterShrek> shorthand open synaptic and search for it
[08:45] <GreyWolfe> bulmer: Thanks, that did it.
[08:46] <shorthand> k MasterShrek
[08:46] <bulmer> GreyWolfe: you're welcome
[08:46] <shorthand> does anyone know that yahoo messenger in ubuntu can run webcam already if yes what program should i use or install?
[08:47] <wolfsong> does xorg normally use 40%+ of the CPU?
[08:47] <maurizio> buondi'
[08:47] <MasterShrek> shorthand, you may be able to run yahoo messenger under wine, i dunno how well it would work tho
[08:47] <heguru> SuperSayjin: can you try: sudo cpufreq-selector -g performance
[08:47] <MasterShrek> wolfsong, it shouldnt
[08:48] <shorthand> i have heard pclinuxos can use webcam in yahoo chat?
[08:48] <wolfsong> MasterShrek: what could be causing it?
[08:48] <MasterShrek> wolfsong, i dont know for sure, what kinda of graphics card do u have?
[08:49] <wolfsong> nvidia
[08:49] <MasterShrek> wolfsong, did u install a driver for it?
[08:49] <wolfsong> the restricted driver yes
[08:49] <MasterShrek> hmm
[08:50] <MasterShrek> im not really sure wolfsong
[08:50] <heguru> SuperSayjin: did that help?
[08:50] <SuperSayjin> well
[08:50] <SuperSayjin> 1 sec
[08:50] <SuperSayjin> il try later
[08:50] <SuperSayjin> and report back
[08:50] <heguru> SuperSayjin: ok
[08:52] <MasterShrek> SuperSayjin, ubuntu should automatically change the cpu frequency, theres no need for your processor to be pumpin out juice if its not doing anything
[08:53] <shorthand> can ubuntu also display in the network display icon that if the cat5 is unplugged it will also say unplugged in the icon just like pclinuxos do?
[08:54] <MasterShrek> shorthand, why? cant you tell that its not plugged in? lol
[08:54] <shorthand> i cant tell unless if i checked it manually at the back of my pc
[08:54] <adammw> hey. i've tried to install ubuntu to fat32 but the installer won't allow it. is there a way to do it (i've seen it on other distros)
[08:55] <mzuverink> when the ubuntu server edition boots up to a login prompt i want it to clear the screan minus the login prompt, what must i di to get that to happen?
[08:55] <GreyWolf1> Can anyone offer suggestions as to why I might be getting rediculously slow downloads? I can download and update stuff with the Add/Remove Programs thing at like 500kb/s but when I try anything else it is more like 2 or 2 kb/s
[08:55] <wolfsong> also I'm setting up amarok to use mysql and it says to make sure that the daemon is started in the startup scripts...would that just be under sessions?
[08:55] <MasterShrek> mzuverink, put the word clear at the bottom of /etc/rc.local
[08:56] <mzuverink> MasterShrek, thank you!
[08:56] <MasterShrek> wolfsong, no, it the startup script would be in /etc/init.d
[08:56] <GreyWolf1> I think I should restate that. Most downloads work great, but any from bittorrent ports are extremely slow, and it is not just because of lack of uploaders, as the WoW downloader always has a nice fast source.
[08:57] <redheat> hi everyone
[08:57] <wolfsong> MasterShrek: is there a doc that shows what to do?
[08:57] <redheat> just gotta a question regarding the installation of the new nvidia driver
[08:57] <redheat> do I have to uninstall the old one first
[08:57] <MasterShrek> wolfsong is there a file called mysql in /etc/init.d/   ?
[08:57] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, are you NAT settings set up correctly?
[08:57] <MasterShrek> redheat how are you installing the driver?
[08:57] <redheat> I'm using a 8600 GT video card, and the drivers I use were the ones released by Nvidia
[08:58] <MasterShrek> redheat, no, it will automatically uninstall them
[08:58] <redheat> simple I posted that on UBuntu Forums
[08:58] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: No clue
[08:58] <redheat> cool
[08:58] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: and you just downloaded the firmware thats all? -  sorry I had connection problems
[08:58] <Phlogi> I still can't get this broadcom wireless adapter to work :(
[08:58] <redheat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497284&highlight=redheat
[08:58] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, Have you read all the faqs?
[08:58] <redheat> MasterShrek, that was my post on Ubuntu's Forums
[08:58] <redheat> thank you for letting me know about this
[08:58] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, does bcm43xx appear when u type lsmod in a terminal?
[08:58] <redheat> cool
[08:58] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, And what model router are you using?
[08:59] <redheat> so I should just proceed with the normal installation.
[08:59] <murlidhar> help me please i am not able to use amarok and #amarok channel seems to be quiet channel
[08:59] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: Yes of course... otherwise I could not scan for networks
[08:59] <MasterShrek> yea redheat, remember though, whenever your kernel gets upgraded you have to reinstall that driver
[08:59] <MasterShrek> i suppose Phlogi, what firmware did you use?
[08:59] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: Siemens 4200, and I am going to guess that I haven't read all the FAQs as I haven't had Ubuntu installed very long
[08:59] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: Just to say I'm quite an advanced linux user since 4 years, so I don't think I did something wrong actually... :)
[08:59] <redheat> yep. Thank you so much MasterShrek.
[09:00] <redheat> hey I forgot to say did you notice this little trick?
[09:00] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, I had to do the NAT setup under windows aswell...
[09:00] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: the firmware is: bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[09:00] <redheat> I have beryl on my system and I don't know if this trick works with it or without it
[09:00] <henryb> how do i change the keyboard layout in kubuntu
[09:00] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, ic, i wonder if thats the same as the firmware i have, i extracted it from the driver file manually
[09:00] <redheat> but here it goes..if you press the ctrl button on your keyboard and the "window"  button you'll get water ripple effect
[09:00] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: I don't know what you mean by NAT setup, so perhaps I did
[09:01] <redheat> really really awesome
[09:01] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: hmm where did you get it from?
[09:01] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, i actually have an archive of it for a tutorial im working on for it, lemme get u a link
[09:01] <n2diy> henryb: menu>system>prefrences> keyboard?
[09:01] <noob_in_danger> how can i install php5 support for apache2, in chrooted apache2?
[09:01] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, And what program are you trying to use Bittorrent, Azureus?
[09:01] <mzuverink> MasterShrek, that did not work, I added it right after the exit 0 line
[09:02] <redheat> Again, thank you MasterShrek, and to you all guys/gals have a nice day and take care.
[09:02] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: ok and we have exactly the same wireless card? Do you have an asus notebook too?
[09:02] <heguru> mzuverink: add before exit 0 line
[09:02] <MasterShrek> mzuverink, put it before the exit 0 line
[09:02] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: I am attempting to use the Blizzard Downloader to download the installer for WoW, it works the same way as Bittorrent
[09:02] <gregshallard> redheat, bye!
[09:02] <henryb> n2diy,  nothing called preferences
[09:02] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv
[09:02] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, Blizzard Battlenet?
[09:02] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, no i have a compaq, but its a dell mini-pci 1390 (which is actualyl a broadcom 4311)
[09:03] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: Same company
[09:03] <mzuverink> thanks MasterShrek  and heguru
[09:03] <n2diy> henryb: ok, good luck, that is how it works here on Dapper.
[09:03] <MasterShrek> GreyWolf1, id blame your client, what are u using?
[09:03] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: ok so it should be correct. Where do I need to put that?
[09:03] <MasterShrek> extract it to /lib/firmware
[09:03] <gregshallard> GreyWolf1, Ok then, have a look at this site. http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Siemens/4200/Blizzard_Battlenet.htm
[09:03] <henryb> :S
[09:03] <GreyWolf1> gregshallard: Did that, though I used the World of Warcraft Installer instructions
[09:04] <GreyWolf1> When I put in the ip of my router, it doesn't bring up a page that is anything like that
[09:04] <MasterShrek> GreyWolf1, what bittorrent client are you using?
[09:04] <GreyWolf1> MasterShrek: The Blizzard Downloader has its own client
[09:04] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: ok thanks, I'll try that
[09:04] <GreyWolf1> For the record, I am running it under WINE
[09:04] <Phlogi> and I have to uninstall the .deb first I guess
[09:05] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, i suppose
[09:06] <gregshallard> GreyWolfe, Can you try and find the IP of the router?
[09:06] <GreyWolfe> gregshallard: I have already connected to the router, all it brings me to is an interface for the modem supplied by the ISP
[09:06] <MasterShrek> he knows the ip of the router
[09:09] <gregshallard> GreyWolfe, Sorry I can't really help you then, Have you tried ringing up the ISP and asking about port forwarding?
[09:10] <Selenolycus> Ok, I have a problem: I had a three-hdd system, but one HDD acted funky, so I took it out - is there an easy way to install GRUB on the new primary partition/hdd now?
[09:11] <MasterShrek> !grub
[09:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:11] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: I did it but still no luck... do you noticed that too. I do iwconfig eth0 essid "name", then when I do iwconfig it sets the MAC of the AP but the Link Quality goes to 0/100... after a while then, iwconfig says AP: Invalid...
[09:12] <MasterShrek> mine works just fine Phlogi, once in a great while ill get dropped from the net, but usually its pretty good
[09:12] <bullgard4> Is there a difference between 'system beep' and 'system bell'?
[09:12] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: :( what kernel do you use?
[09:12] <Selenolycus> bullgard4: my guess would be system bell = soundcard, system beep = system speaker
[09:12] <Selenolycus> But I have no idea.
[09:12] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, 2.6.20-16-lowlatency
[09:14] <Phlogi> so it can't be that... hmm do you have any idea... I'm at a point of giving up and then remove linux :(
[09:14] <Phlogi> again you just copied that firmware and it worked MasterShrek
[09:14] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, i would suggest holding out for another month, gutsy will be released and its got a much newer kernel
[09:15] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, yea, have you restarted since? try rmmod bcm43xx followed by modprobe bcm43xx
[09:15] <Phlogi> I did both ;)
[09:15] <Phlogi> damn why does the scan work but nothing else! anyone has any idea?
[09:15] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, i am running 64 bit, but i dont know if that matters
[09:16] <henryb> gnome ftw
[09:16] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: it should not... actually yours maybe should not work but mine should of course :)
[09:16] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, you need a wep or wpa key for your network?
[09:16] <Phlogi> if you set the essid, then iwconfig says link quality 0, does it on your machine too?
[09:16] <henryb> i am the onl one who have had a problem with the nvidia manager not writing to xorg.conf ??
[09:17] <Phlogi> I'm using unencrytped right now to test
[09:17] <henryb> and how do i delete a network key for a wireless network
[09:17] <henryb> so i am forced to enter it again
[09:17] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, mine says 91/100
[09:17] <Phlogi> strnge
[09:17] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, so there must be something different with your card
[09:18] <Balachmar> How can I display the userlist in xchat?
[09:18] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: something is wrong yes...
[09:19] <heguru> henryb: do you have gconf-editor?
[09:19] <henryb> yeah
[09:19] <heguru> henryb: if yes, follow these steps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager#head-d2b310228dc887b6cddf4465b6a53cdc4dc9be28
[09:19] <mssever> Balachmar: View > User list
[09:19] <henryb> didnt change anything
[09:19] <henryb> my resolution is still the same
[09:20] <henryb> when i restart >P
[09:20] <BarryToeman> What is the name of the graphical .deb installer?
[09:20] <Balachmar> mssever: I don't have view...
[09:20] <henryb> hmm not gconf
[09:20] <MasterShrek> BarryToeman, synaptic
[09:20] <mssever> Balachmar: hmmm... Try <Ctrl>F7
[09:20] <Phlogi> can I get a copy of the next kubuntu release already to test out?
[09:20] <mssever> BarryToeman: or gdebi
[09:20] <Balachmar> mssever:nothing happens
[09:21] <heguru> henryb: if you just want to remove the WEP/WPA key then System -> Administration -> Keyring Manager
[09:21] <heguru> henryb: right click the Wireless Network Key and delete
[09:21] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, do u have any gui programs running that might be interfering with it?
[09:21] <BarryToeman> MasterShrek: thanks.  it wasn't synaptic.  I have a barebones Ubuntu install and couldn't remember the name of it...
[09:21] <mssever> Balachmar: That's odd... You must be using a different version than I am? (this is the first time I've used XChat)
[09:21] <henryb> heguru, thanks
[09:22] <Balachmar> mssever: I'm using the default version on ubuntu feisty
[09:22] <mssever> Balachmar: I'm using 2.8.4
[09:22] <salamkenal2> hello how to get winbind working with wine
[09:22] <mssever> Balachmar: So am I... Weird
[09:22] <Balachmar> mssever: I am using 0.18...
[09:22] <salamkenal2> hello how to get winbind working with wine
[09:22] <heguru> salamkenal2: winbind has nothing to do with wine
[09:23] <WaltzingAlong> !repeat salamkenal2
[09:23] <heguru> salamkenal2: unless you tell what you really want
[09:23] <MasterShrek> !patience | salamkenal2
[09:23] <ubotu> salamkenal2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:23] <sensei> Ok, this is fricking weird, it might be me being lame, or it might be pure magic.. We've got two ubuntu servers which every odd 10 minutes loses connectivity. Can't SSH in, can't ping, nothing.. If I go to the servers, ping an external address, then it works and I can SSH in again for another ten or so minutes.. There's no networkmanager, avahi or anything that could automagically reconfigure anything running. I suspected the e100 driver after reading some
[09:23] <Balachmar> mssever: ahh I see, I have xchat gnome, should use normal xchat
[09:23] <mssever> Balachmar: ?? You did say XChat, right?
[09:23] <mssever> Balachmar: oh
[09:23] <sensei> There's an ARP entry in the router for both machines as they boot up, then if I clear the ARP, they don't get a new one
[09:23] <Balachmar> brb
[09:23] <salamkenal2> so then how to get winbind working with samba
[09:24] <sensei> So I have to go in and ping something for an ARP entry to be created, then it works
[09:24] <salamkenal2> there is a problem with ntlm_auth when i using wine
[09:24] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: yes that network manager in kde... hmm bad?
[09:24] <heguru> salamkenal2: why are you using wine with ntlm_auth?
[09:24] <salamkenal2> just don no
[09:25] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, maybe
[09:25] <MasterShrek> worth a shot to try without it running
[09:25] <salamkenal2> the win apllication use sql native client
[09:25] <salamkenal2> and this not working well
[09:25] <HealthyElijah> where is bittorrent located in ubuntu?
[09:25] <Phlogi> MasterShrek: so I may just shutdown that desktop tool?
[09:25] <esclavo> Healthy: use k-torrent
[09:25] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, id try it
[09:25] <HealthyElijah> oh thats right terminal
[09:26] <mssever> Balachmar: Welcome back
[09:26] <HealthyElijah> command not found
[09:26] <Balachmar> mssever: and now I do have a user list :) thanks
[09:26] <WaltzingAlong> HealthyElijah: install it. sudo aptitude install ktorrent  azureus bittornado bittorrent               whatever you want
[09:26] <esclavo> Healthy: synaptic package manager
[09:26] <HealthyElijah> i saw bittorrent in here once and now i cannot find it
[09:27] <jan_> anyone else has ldap users here ?
[09:27] <heguru> salamkenal2: do you have a windows domain?
[09:27] <mssever> HealthyElijah: k-torrent is for KDE, so if you use GNOME, it might look a bit out of place
[09:27] <salamkenal2> no
[09:27] <heguru> salamkenal2: the SQL Server that the client calls, is it part of Active Directory?
[09:27] <BarryToeman> I have gdebi and gdebi-gtk, but they refuse to open deb files....python error.
[09:28] <HealthyElijah> i just want to run the torrent that is already on here
[09:28] <salamkenal2> heguru: but when i call it in the win i never have domain
[09:28] <heguru> salamkenal2: well then you don't need to configure winbind
[09:29] <salamkenal2> ow
[09:29] <salamkenal2> where i can get the latest samba?
[09:29] <CorpseFeeder> Dudes!!! Anyone know a good place to get some nice "script" looking fonts for Ubuntu? I got tonnes of fonts, but they're all like times/courier/helvetica style....
[09:29] <salamkenal2> and how to cek samba version
[09:29] <Phlogi> hmm no luck MasterShrek, but maybe the link quality is just too bad, because with my personal notebook I even have some troubles.... so I'll try to move nearer to the AP later. Do you have any other idea?
[09:29] <HealthyElijah> isnt bitorent in one of the menus?
[09:29] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, that would be a good idea
[09:30] <heguru> salamkenal2: smbd -V
[09:30] <mssever> HealthyElijah: depends on if you have a bittorrent client installed
[09:30] <HealthyElijah> i saw it once
[09:30] <up365> HealthyElijah,  it's in Add/Remove Applications
[09:30] <HealthyElijah> i thougth
[09:31] <Phlogi> Can I already get a rc or preview of gutsy?
[09:31] <GNine> bittorrent has dependencie on gnome-desktop.
[09:31] <HealthyElijah> yes in add/remove it is checked as installed but i cannot find it in the gui menus
[09:31] <MasterShrek> Phlogi, yea
[09:31] <punzada> HealthyElijah, I would reccomend not using the regular bittorrent client that comes with it (which is typically located under 'Internet') instead install Deluge Torrent by deluge-torrent in the terminal
[09:31] <Evanlec> !gutsy | Phlogi
[09:31] <ubotu> Phlogi: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:31] <threethirty> hey all
[09:31] <CorpseFeeder> is there any extra font packs or something in the repositories?
[09:31] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, mstcorefonts
[09:31] <GNine> i use nicotine.
[09:31] <HealthyElijah> i understand
[09:31] <WaltzingAlong> CorpseFeeder: there are lots of font packages already available, yes
[09:32] <HealthyElijah> but it isnt under internet
[09:32] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, msttcorefonts
[09:32] <salamkenal2> heguru: where i can get the latest of samba
[09:32] <threethirty> is anyone else having issues with the 2.6.20-16 kernel update
[09:32] <MasterShrek> two t's
[09:32] <punzada> The regular bittorrent client is lacking.
[09:32] <HealthyElijah> i just want to see what it even is before downloading new versions
[09:32] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. I'll look into that
[09:32] <HealthyElijah> ive never used it before
[09:32] <heguru> salamkenal2: ubuntu comes with upto date samba
[09:32] <GNine> !nicotine
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <MasterShrek> threethirty, be more specific than 'issue'
[09:32] <cjae_> anyone here know about openpgp
[09:32] <HealthyElijah> ive always used revconnect for windows
[09:32] <salamkenal2> heguru: cause in my ubuntu i just have 3.0.24
[09:32] <punzada> I have it listed under Applications->Internet->BitTorrent
[09:32] <GNine> !nicotine-plus
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine-plus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <heguru> salamkenal2: thats a recent stable version
[09:32] <punzada> however yours may have been uninstalled
[09:33] <GNine> what??  ubotu.. c'mon
[09:33] <GNine> heh
[09:33] <MasterShrek> !info nicotine
[09:33] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6+dfsg-1 (feisty), package size 451 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[09:33] <punzada> you can go to the synaptic package manager and reinstall it
[09:33] <up365> doesn't it show when you "open with" for a torrent
[09:33] <psypher246> hey everyone, can someone please help me, am i going crazy or something, is there not supposed to be a LAMP install option on the 7.04 server cd?
[09:33] <salamkenal2> but the wine wanna 3.0.25 or above :(
[09:33] <HealthyElijah> how do i get the icon back?
[09:33] <threethirty> MasterShrek: where the system locks up and if you restart you get thrown into the Command Line to run fsck all night.
[09:33] <cjae_> I know what my public key is now how do I find out my private key?
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> psypher246: sudo aptitude              /lamp                       find lamp-server               +                     g
[09:34] <mssever> psypher246: I don't know, but it's easy to install everything you need without such an option
[09:34] <a514> PLEASE code a FSTAB GUI!!
[09:34] <MasterShrek> not here threethirty, mine runs fine with 16
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> cjae_: .ssh/id_rsa
[09:34] <MasterShrek> a514, gparted
[09:34] <CorpseFeeder> MasterShrek: ok.. it tells me apparently I already have mstcorefonts installed... are there any others?
[09:34] <psypher246> i now, but thats not the point
[09:34] <up365> HealthyElijah, I suggest deluge, much better than bittorrent or bittornado
[09:34] <MasterShrek> i dunno CorpseFeeder
[09:34] <Beta-guy> when will the next prelease Ubuntu be released, and will be released for PS3?
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> CorpseFeeder: yes. search for fonts font ttf and so on
[09:35] <Alex_Gaynor> Is there a way to install something that apt-get wants the ubuntu disk for without actually having the disk?
[09:35] <cjae_> WaltzingAlong, may I speak to you in another channel perhaps?
[09:35] <threethirty> MasterShrek: this happened to me last kernel update too, im now way too familiar with launchpad
[09:35] <GNine> last kernel update: status operational. nothing follows.
[09:35] <MasterShrek> Beta-guy, i think i heard something about that
[09:35] <cjae_> WaltzingAlong, this one is quite busy
[09:35] <HealthyElijah> up365: I have never used any of them before, let me just see what it is all about
[09:35] <HealthyElijah> i found that in edit menus bittorrent got unslected somehow
[09:35] <dgjones> Beta-guy, the next Ubuntu release is due on 18th October, not sure if there's a another test release between now & then though
[09:35] <MasterShrek> threethirty, dont upgrade your kernel, its probably not that much different anyway
[09:35] <psypher246> so the easy install lamp in 15 minutes claim does not apply to feisty or anything other than LTS?
[09:36] <Beta-guy> thanks, will it be out for PS3?
[09:36] <Alex_Gaynor> psypher246: I had LAMP installed in way under 15 minutes with feisty server
[09:36] <MasterShrek> i dont know for sure Beta-guy
[09:36] <psypher246> Alex_Gaynor: did u have an option on the install cd for that?
[09:36] <Alex_Gaynor> psypher246: Yes
[09:36] <mssever> psypher246: I've never used the server CD, but I could install LAMP in less than 15 minutes on stock Ubuntu
[09:36] <psypher246> then what have i downloaded???
[09:37] <Alex_Gaynor> Is tehre a way to install unzip without the ubuntu cd?
[09:37] <psypher246> i even did a md5
[09:37] <threethirty> MasterShrek: but i worry when I dont have "important security updates", old windows anxiety
[09:37] <hmhowie> psypher246: i can't remember how long it took me on standard feisty desktop to install a lamp stack, but it must have been about 10 minutes of waiting for synaptic to download, unpack and install the files
[09:37] <psypher246> i keep downloading the server cd, done it 3 times now and keep NOT seeing the easy lamp option like in LTS
[09:37] <up365> HealthyElijah, ok I'm new to torrents myself been thru the "bits", transmission, and have landed on Deluge
[09:37] <heguru> Alex_Gaynor: System -> Administration -> Software Sources then uncheck the cdrom (i guess)
[09:37] <MasterShrek> threethirty, dont worry about that, just because software is updated doesnt mean its better
[09:37] <Alex_Gaynor> heguru: I'm on a sever install(no GUI)
[09:37] <hmhowie> psypher246: don't worry about that. just install the os and then use apt-get
[09:37] <Alex_Gaynor> Plus I'm SSH'd in
[09:38] <mssever> psypher246: sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql-server php5
[09:38] <murlidhar> can anybody tell me how to register my nickname in  the freenode network . i did read the faq but could make anything out of it
[09:38] <psypher246> hm: thats not what i'm asking, i can install the server cd and then do all the rest, but there is an option on the start to speed that up
[09:38] <heguru> Alex_Gaynor: better, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and comment out the like with cdrom (add #)
[09:38] <MasterShrek> psypher246, thats stupid, u want to install LAMP in 15 minutes and youve downloaded the cd 3 times? lol
[09:38] <psypher246> still not the point
[09:38] <salamkenal2> heguru: i ask in #winehq they told me that the new version of samba can make wine working
[09:38] <salamkenal2> heguru:how can iget the new release? where can i update it
[09:38] <mssever> psypher246: How can it be any faster than the command I just gave?
[09:38] <heguru> salamkenal2: well what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:38] <salamkenal2> 7.04
[09:38] <a514> how do i update fstab with a uuid= ?
[09:38] <damianl> hi, where is liblame.so.0 located? a search of my hdd comes up with nothing but i just installed it so it should be there
[09:38] <MasterShrek> salamkenal2, wine and samba have nothing to do with eachother
[09:39] <hmhowie> psypher246: maybe the option was removed for feisty server edition. i dunno. it just means typing one line into the terminal
[09:39] <psypher246> guys i understand all of that, all Iwant to know, SHOULD feisty have the option?
[09:39] <minerale> how can I tell if my current video card can support aiglx ?
[09:39] <Alex_Gaynor> heguru: Nice, thanks
[09:39] <mssever> psypher246: dunno
[09:39] <salamkenal2> but ntlm_auth does
[09:39] <salamkenal2> i have try it
[09:39] <heguru> MasterShrek: actually the do.. ntlm_auth code from samba is used for NTLMSSP auth in WINE now
[09:39] <damianl> hi, where is liblame.so.0 located? a search of my hdd comes up with nothing but i just installed it so it should be there
[09:39] <hmhowie> psypher246: dunno either
[09:39] <a514> what makes the uuid= in fstab?
[09:39] <salamkenal2> and i have ask to wine developer :(
[09:40] <hmhowie> damianl: i can imagine liblame being in /usr/lib
[09:40] <mssever> damianl: sudo updatedb && locate liblame
[09:40] <Tomcat_> a514: blkid
[09:40] <MasterShrek> damianl, type: locate liblame
[09:40] <heguru> have you tried: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade samba
[09:40] <damianl> ah thanks should of known that one myself
[09:40] <heguru> salamkenal2: let me check the latest of samba in fesity repository
[09:40] <damianl> :)
[09:41] <GNine> !ping
[09:41] <ubotu> pong
[09:41] <salamkenal2> ok please
[09:41] <heguru> salamkenal2: sorry the last in feisty is 3.0.24
[09:41] <heguru> salamkenal2: gutsy has 3.0.26
[09:41] <esclavo> up365: deluge does look pretty nice....ktorrent
[09:41] <esclavo> s...till is pretty good..
[09:41] <psypher246> thanks, got another question. if u running dapper and there is a specific version of an app you want to run, that is only available in feisty/gusty, would you rather somehow try and resolve all dependencies via apt or just compile a more updated version?
[09:41] <salamkenal2> 7.04 is feisty?
[09:42] <heguru> salamkenal2: yes
[09:42] <damianl> i seem to be using search under the places menu alot, how regularly should i run updatedb
[09:42] <heguru> salamkenal2: gutsy is the next (underdevelopment) version
[09:42] <GNine> uuid . devices and partitions.  name calling.
[09:42] <salamkenal2> emm how can i get the new ones
[09:42] <mssever> psypher246: Compile..If you upgrade the wrong libs, you'll end up with a seriously borked system. I did that once
[09:42] <salamkenal2> i must compile it?
[09:42] <heguru> salamkenal2: you can download samba and compile it yes
[09:43] <psypher246> yeah i did that too
[09:43] <murlidhar> Has anybody used linkage torrent client
[09:43] <MasterShrek> woohoo netsplit
[09:43] <GNine> netsplit in progress?
[09:43] <mssever> damianl: I think that it runs itself periodically
[09:43] <salamkenal2> ic ic
[09:43] <damianl> cool thanks
[09:43] <esclavo> ya i upgraded lib to .16 and it fux0rd it up
[09:43] <psypher246> and dependencies for the compile, compile those too?
[09:43] <hmhowie> psypher246: i'd probably recommend updating to feisty/gutsy. you could try downloading the deb for feisty/gutsy and seeing it it will install.
[09:43] <mssever> damianl: I run updatedb if I want to find something shortly after installing it... otherwise, I don't bother
[09:44] <psypher246> sorry i also forgot how do u auto add someone's name while chatting here?
[09:44] <rzimek78> how many virtual terminals I can have and in what file I can change it?
[09:44] <damianl> cool fair enough i'll leave it then
[09:44] <damianl> btw is liblame in the repos?
[09:44] <mssever> psypher246: You can grab the source package (apt-get source) and use pbuilder
[09:44] <psypher246> yeah i could do that. but if you REALLY want to stick with dapper for the LTS, should be fine just compiling?
[09:44] <psypher246> ah thats cool
[09:44] <damianl> the one i installled doesnt seem to contain the actual liblame.so.0
[09:45] <murlidhar> psypher246: if u are using xchat then use tab to autocomplete
[09:45] <mssever> psypher246: That's what I did for awhile
[09:45] <CorpseFeeder> Seems like I have all the font packs in the repositories installed already. I guess no one makes any nice scripty fonts for linux then...
[09:45] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, any font should work in linux, even windows fonts
[09:45] <mssever> psypher246: It's also sometimes useful to compile Debian's source packages
[09:45] <salamkenal2> huguru: i know i'm dummy, but how to compile the samba :P i cannot find any link to help me compile the samba
[09:45] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, if you torrent a font pack you should be able to use it
[09:45] <damianl> can someone here send me there liblame.so.0 off there hdd?
[09:45] <psypher246> mssever: ah so i can add a debian source repo and use phbuilder to create a package or install it?
[09:46] <GNine> i like the default ubuntu fonts
[09:46] <mssever> psypher246: Yes
[09:46] <GNine> very much readable
[09:46] <heguru> salamkenal2: www.samba.org download the latest sources, extract, read the INSTALL file
[09:46] <hmhowie> mssever: have a look in /etc/cron.daily :)
[09:46] <MasterShrek> salamkenal2, extract the files, go into the directory, then: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[09:46] <psypher246> cool, thanks
[09:46] <humbolto>  how can I apply gconf settings. I need to logout and login again to apply gconf settings to evolution. evolution is not running, when I do the changes.
[09:46] <Phlogi_> MasterShrek: I'll try ndiswrapper now ^^
[09:46] <salamkenal2> emm ic
[09:46] <damianl> can someone here send me there liblame.so.0 off there hdd?
[09:46] <mssever> hmhowie: I knew it ran periodically...
[09:46] <CorpseFeeder> MasterShrek: ok.. I'd tried searching, but normally I keep coming up with commercial fonts you have to pay for ;(.. but I will see if I can locate some free (or torrented) ones...
[09:46] <murlidhar> has anybody used linkage torrent client here??????
[09:46] <heguru> humbolto: most gconf settings are immediate
[09:47] <esclavo> humbolto, you need to restart the service
[09:48] <damianl> ooh they renamed it, i et it now
[09:48] <humbolto> heguru: does not seem to be the case for evolution
[09:48] <damianl> get
[09:48] <damianl> :)
[09:48] <noob_in_danger> hey. is there any way to make a chroot of my system, so i can install services i want and then run them all chrooted, without the need of copying files from my default system to a chroot dir?
[09:48] <humbolto> esclavo: shich service?
[09:48] <disinterested> murlidhar: linkage torrent?
[09:48] <humbolto> esclavo:  which service?
[09:48] <esclavo> oh for evolution nm
[09:48] <humbolto> esclavo: network-manager for evolution? you are kidding me.
[09:48] <jim> dangernoob!
[09:48] <GNine> noob_in_danger, sounds like its own name sake
[09:49] <hmhowie> noob_in_danger: you can mount part of the filesystem (/bin and /usr/bin forexample) in the new directory and then chroot
[09:49] <mssever> noob_in_danger: Could you use hard links? (note that I really don't know much about chroot)
[09:49] <murlidhar> disinterested: yes linkage torrent client
[09:49] <heguru> humbolto:  try: killall evolution-data-server-1.12
[09:49] <disinterested> i just use azureus i never heard of linkage torrent
[09:50] <murlidhar> disinterested: it is very light i heard and for the past 2 days i have been tryin to compile it
[09:50] <jim> Gloria's cousin?
[09:50] <Alex_Gaynor> Is ubuntu server 7.04 missing the strings command, or am I going crazy?
[09:50] <eck> if you want a lightweight bt client just use rtorrent, it's in the repos
[09:50] <psychouman> i am trying to install ubuntu on a brand new HDD, do i need to format the drive with something before i use boot load
[09:50] <GNine> nicotine here.  i had a very much different idea of what azureus was about
[09:51] <disinterested> oh ok
[09:51] <jim> Alex_Gaynor: strings is probably in binutils
[09:51] <MasterShrek> psychouman, no, the installer will do it for you
[09:51] <disinterested> have u tried azureus?
[09:51] <psychouman> cool cool
[09:51] <MasterShrek> azeureus sucks
[09:51] <Alex_Gaynor> jim: Ok thanbks
[09:51] <murlidhar> yes it is good but a bit heavy
[09:51] <GNine> any OS install formats the drive and makes a bootloader
[09:52] <jim> Alex_Gaynor: you compilin stuff?
[09:52] <psychouman> awesome
[09:52] <murlidhar> got lot of features which i probably will never use
[09:52] <Alex_Gaynor> jim: playing with an encrypted file
[09:52] <psychouman> also, i have a 64 bit amd...should i use the respective version of ubuntu?
[09:52] <jim> Alex_Gaynor: do you compile things periodically?
[09:53] <GNine> i think one reason people like azureus is .. flashy colors and cool interface.. i dont need that
[09:53] <wabid> is there any way to stop the little gray box from zooming out when i open firefox
[09:53] <wabid> that draws the window
[09:53] <Alex_Gaynor> jim: Pretty much never, I manage to use Linux because of apt
[09:53] <hmhowie> psychouman: i would say: probably. you'll have to follow a number of howtos to get things like flash working, however
[09:53] <MasterShrek> psychouman, you may run into a few problems, like flash not working nicely under 64 bit, but you should have better performance
[09:53] <D4N`> sup?
[09:53] <jim> psychouman: (debian answer) or i386 arch, should also run
[09:53] <murlidhar> Ok OK lets stop the WAR about torrent clients
[09:53] <jim> sip!
[09:53] <hermann_348> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=6460491
[09:53] <hermann_348> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=6460491
[09:54] <MasterShrek> psychouman, i run 64 bit, works nicely, if u have problems ill help ya
[09:54] <a514> how-to make a new fstab with blkid ?
[09:54] <D4N`> no
[09:54] <psychouman> awesome thanks
[09:54] <eck> a514: you mean using a uuid?
[09:54] <murlidhar> can anybody make a debian package for linkage torrent client and i am dying to test it
[09:54] <jan_> anyone else has troubles with ldap users and thunderbird ?
[09:55] <GNine> if you know your hardware. match it to the best possible softcode.
[09:55] <MasterShrek> murlidhar, why not just compile it?
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> murlidhar: has always interested me that they are called clients when really they do some serving as well; not a client like a web browser is or an ftp client is
[09:55] <a514> eck Yeah uuid a new fstab
[09:55] <eck> a514: you need to use vol_id to determine the uuid of the devices
[09:55] <Crozar> Mac OSX has boot camp , can we bootcamp linux as well as the 2 defaults?
[09:55] <eck> sudo vol_id /dev/foo
[09:55] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: i have tried to but not able to
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> though you need not use the uuid, could still use /dev/hda1 and such
[09:56] <sethk> Crozar, what's boot camp?
[09:56] <Crozar> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
[09:56] <Crozar> its like using grub but it uses it before the computer starts up from bootcamp method
[09:56] <sethk> Crozar, I'll read that, thanks.
[09:57] <Crozar> then you choose windows or mac and it will start it normaly like grub does , so its a DualBoot , but can we add ubuntu withit?
[09:57] <murlidhar> WaltzingAlong: yes u r right but it helps u to read a torrent and download files
[09:57] <sethk> Crozar, yes, if it can boot both, it should be possible to add another O/S.
[09:58] <a514> eck ok then?
[09:58] <murlidhar> compiling linkage client is difficult since it requires libtorrent and libtorrent too requires compiling
[09:58] <GNine> grub only manages availability of installed OSes
[09:58] <eck> a514: then edit /etc/fstab?
[10:00] <GNine> not 'only' .. there are some things that can be done with grub .. but mainly its about pickin OS out of a line up
[10:03] <a514> Crozar PearPC?
[10:04] <iXi> please point me to a guide explaining how to get WPA to work with 3com 3crwe154g72 wireless card, thanks!
[10:04] <a514> eck what do i type after uuid=# ?
[10:05] <MasterShrek> iXi, did u have to do any additional setup for the wireless card, or did it work out of the box?
[10:05] <MasterShrek> a514, in /etc/fstab?
[10:06] <eck> a514: it should look something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38527/
[10:06] <iXi> MasterShrek, it worked right away
[10:06] <a514> fstab uuid=# then what? is there a way to > vol_id into fstab with a option menu gui for me?
[10:07] <eck> the details are in the fstab man page
[10:07] <iXi> MasterShrek, but when i'm selecting my wireless network i'm told the required security settings isn't supported
[10:08] <MasterShrek> ixi, type: sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant    in a terminal
[10:08] <iXi> MasterShrek, wpasupplicant is installed
[10:08] <a514> so i c&p the uuid into fstab ? someone should make a gnome menu option gui for newbies
[10:09] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. I got some fonts. Now what? How do I install them? I tried to extract them into /usr/share/fonts but it tells me I don't have permission....
[10:09] <MasterShrek> iXi, youll need to probably do wpa using the command line then, use the wext driver
[10:09] <MasterShrek> !wpa
[10:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:09] <rausb0> iXi: which wireless chipset? not all will work with wpa_supplicant
[10:09] <iXi> MasterShrek, prism54
[10:10] <iXi> rausb0, prism54
[10:10] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, open a terminal and type: sudo mv [file]  /usr/share/fonts
[10:10] <rausb0> iXi: okay, i think it should work with wpa_supplicant then (never had a prism54 though)
[10:10] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, if they have the same file extension u can do *.ttf for example to move them all
[10:11] <MasterShrek> oh yea it will work
[10:11] <CorpseFeeder> MasterShrek: ok, thanks, that sounds sensible...
[10:11] <fractal2> anyone here have experience dualbooting linux with an Acer computer?
[10:12] <iXi> MasterShrek, do you think the wext driver SHOULD work? Right now I've done all that ndiswrapper stuff..
[10:12] <iXi> !wpa
[10:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:12] <MasterShrek> iXi, it may work, try hostap if it doesnt
[10:13] <xoRock> CorpseFeeder, create new folder in your home directory "  .fonts  " and copy all your new fonts there
[10:13] <rausb0> iXi: if you use ndiswrapper for your card, you must use wext in wpa_supplicant
[10:13] <MasterShrek> fractal2, dual booting shouldnt be hardware specific
[10:13] <Madne1> anyone has any good ISO mounter programs?
[10:13] <rausb0> iXi: no sorry, its ndiswrapper also in wpa_supplicant
[10:14] <eck> Madne1: my favorite one is mount
[10:14] <MasterShrek> lol
[10:14] <xoRock> Madne1, iso master
[10:14] <eck> mount -o loop foo.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[10:14] <iXi> rausb0, ok! that's what i've tried
[10:14] <uptownben> Hi All. How do I resolve the "qc timeout" error on my notebook when I plug in a compact flash card?
[10:15] <fractal2> MasterShrek: what concerned me is that the hard drive is already partitioned by default into C and D. D is where user image backups are stored. I don't want to mess that up.
[10:15] <Madne1> lol>
[10:15] <Irreducibilis> I am installing ubuntu right now to a 4 gig USB flash drive, in the backround, under Qemu, accelerated with Kqemu. This is USB 1.1.... even still, it has been installing for 3 hours now and its only at 47%
[10:15] <rausb0> iXi: then you should kill network manager als test with wpa_supplicant manually (or have you already done this?)
[10:15] <salamkenal2> heguru: i cannot get the install instruction is samba source code can i install it with calling install.sh?
[10:15] <Madne1> wait i can mount using terminal?
[10:15] <Irreducibilis> Its installing at a steady speed of about 1% every 5 to 6 minutes, is this normal even for USB 1.1?
[10:15] <Madne1> !iso
[10:15] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:15] <Madne1> nice
[10:15] <eck> Irreducibilis: can you not just install it normally (i.e. not within qemu)?
[10:16] <Irreducibilis> eck: No, I am using it specifically as an embedded within windows flash drive install
[10:16] <hmhowie> Irreducibilis: even for usb1.1 that's pretty slow
[10:16] <iXi> rausb0, nope..just kill network manager and run the wpa_supplicant test with ndiswrapper?
[10:16] <Madne1> uhhh whats the mountpoint
[10:16] <Madne1> !mountpoint
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <Irreducibilis> !speed
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <Irreducibilis> .........
[10:16] <eck> Madne1: it's the directory you want to mount the device/file to
[10:16] <Madne1> any dir i want?
[10:17] <eck> correct
[10:17] <Madne1> ok
[10:17] <Irreducibilis> So what should I do? Wait 4 more hours for it to finish and then work just fine or stop it now and try to find a faster way?
[10:17] <Irreducibilis> 47%
[10:17] <ghost> does anyone know how to configure xchat to receive transfers
[10:17] <rausb0> iXi: no, after killing network manager you have to create a appropriate wpa_supplicant.conf file using wpa_passphrase and then run wpa_supplicant with some commandline options
[10:18] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, just install it on disk, and cp it over?
[10:18] <HannaH1> ! firefox
[10:18] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:18] <cjae_> is there a dameon or something to refresh /usr/bin to it does not take so long to open it 2000+ executables besides cli
[10:19] <rausb0> iXi: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and scroll down to "Configuring wpa_supplicant"
[10:19] <overclucker> Irreducibilis, go get a movie or somthin, as long as it's actually installing it
[10:19] <jim> cjae_:/usr/bin is generally huge
[10:19] <iXi> rausb0, I've done sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dndiswrapper -w
[10:19] <iXi> rausb0, ...but not with nm killed
[10:19] <Irreducibilis> Okay
[10:20] <rausb0> iXi: and did you create /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf before?
[10:20] <HannaH1> Hello i have a questin : where i can adduser a source for apt-get? what is the command
[10:20] <iXi> rausb0, yes
[10:20] <eck> cjae_: no, some filesystems will put the dirents in contiguous sectors on disk though to speed it up (e.g. xfs)
[10:20] <eck> ext3 does not do well with large directories
[10:20] <rausb0> iXi: okay, then try again with network manager killed
[10:20] <cjae_> ahh
[10:21] <hmhowie> HannaH1: you want to add a source for packages? i think you can do that in synaptic package manager
[10:21] <sistom> My konversation program is giving me problems
[10:21] <cjae_> eck, what about reiser
[10:21] <sistom> I took a screen shot www.cr4ck.org/screenshot.png
[10:21] <sistom> I can't close that window.
[10:21] <eck> cjae_: i'm not sure, i would recommend xfs over reiserfs though
[10:21] <HannaH1> hmhowie, it's a command apt...?
[10:21] <iXi> MasterShrek, rausb0: I'm gonna try that, thanks for your help guys!
[10:22] <hmhowie> HannaH1: if you want to do this by hand, you can add the new source to /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <eck> in general xfs is a lot faster
[10:22] <eck> and imho more reliable
[10:22] <HannaH1> tnx hmhowie
[10:22] <cjae_> it changing filesystems very stable eck
[10:22] <sistom> hmhowie: any ideas?
[10:23] <eck> you have to reinstall/copy the files over, you can't convert a filesystem in place
[10:23] <Phlogi_> MasterShrek: ping, are you there?
[10:23] <hmhowie> HannaH1: don't forget a "sudo apt-get update" once you've added the new source, so the new package desciptions are downloaded
[10:23] <HannaH1> hmhowie, :* tnx
[10:23] <hmhowie> sistom: konversation? never used it... :(
[10:23] <sistom> :(
[10:23] <Irreducibilis> I closed it out, I have a better idea
[10:23] <hmhowie> sistom: what does it do?
[10:23] <HannaH1> what is the last version for firefox?
[10:23] <eck> although if cli is fast for you to list the directory contents then whatever app you are using that is slow sucks
[10:24] <cjae_> eck, sorry I know one should have backup before really attempting anything but what is the likely hood of losing all data converting ext3 to xfs
[10:24] <Irreducibilis> I think having the .iso on the flash drive with it is too much for USB 1.1
[10:24] <Irreducibilis> HAving to read from it and write to at at the same time
[10:24] <sistom> when it opens everything works fine
[10:24] <eck> cjae_: zero? you'd just have to reinstall
[10:24] <rausb0> !info firefox feisty
[10:24] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[10:24] <salamkenal> how to compile samba in ubuntu?
[10:24] <sistom> but that one window won't go away
[10:24] <sistom> I have to drag it to another desktop
[10:24] <rausb0> HannaH1: look at what ubotu said
[10:24] <Irreducibilis> So I am going to move the .iso to my windows box and have it access it from there, loosen the load
[10:24] <HannaH1> tnx
[10:24] <cjae_> eck, I see no other way then
[10:24] <erUSUL> salamkenal: what's th eproblem with the packaged version?
[10:25] <cjae_> eck, I know you could fat to nt but I never tried it
[10:25] <hmhowie> sistom: i see i'm going to have to install a kde desktop at some stage...
[10:25] <sistom> yup
[10:25] <eck> well however it takes to "time echo * /usr/bin" is how fast the fs can do it
[10:25] <eck> err, echo /usr/bin/*
[10:26] <eck> i think the gtk file picker is just slow
[10:26] <eck> although it's better than it used to be
[10:26] <lalaputar> hey
[10:27] <lalaputar> is anyone here?
[10:27] <HannaH1> what client for chat recommanded me ( EX: Xchat.... )
[10:27] <cjae_> eck, using thunar under xubuntu
[10:27] <rausb0> HannaH1: xchat or kvirc for beginners, irssi for adavanced users
[10:27] <jim> HannaH1: xchat is as good as any
[10:27] <eck> cjae_: i think it is still using the same gtk lib
[10:28] <eck> i'm not positive about that though
[10:28] <lalaputar> Im trying to run ubuntu either the 64 bit edition or the normal one on my new laptop and i get errors in "loading hardware drivers"
[10:28] <rausb0> HannaH1: but it's all personal preference anyway
[10:28] <lalaputar> and the loading stalls
[10:28] <HannaH1> i install xchat :P
[10:28] <henryb> how do i make a folder read write for all ?
[10:28] <murlidhar> can anybody tell me how to register my nickname in freenode.net???
[10:28] <cjae_> probably it seems very much the same eck
[10:29] <HannaH1> i can't see the list of people in channels where i can modify for see people?
[10:29] <secher> hey, do you guys know how i can "uninstall" a program after i have installed it.. (not through synaptic)
[10:29] <eck> !register > murlidhar
[10:29] <rausb0> HannaH1: be sure to pick xchat, not xchat-gnome
[10:29] <HannaH1> is see only in this window
[10:29] <Phlogi_> MasterShrek: I tried the ndiswrapper and it works great... :) I'm happy
[10:29] <lalaputar> there's errors loading bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[10:29] <hmhowie> sistom: but it won't be today :) what sort of a program is konversation anyway?
[10:29] <murlidhar> eck: thnks
[10:29] <MasterShrek> good news Phlogi_
[10:29] <rausb0> HannaH1: then you probably have xchat-gnome (which is crippled somehow)
[10:30] <sistom> irc chat progrem
[10:30] <Phlogi_> However I did not try encryption yet...
[10:30] <sistom> program*
[10:30] <hmhowie> secher: "sudo apt-get remove <name of program>"
[10:30] <secher> thanks
[10:30] <lalaputar> anyone know of my hardware problem on my brand new laptop
[10:30] <lalaputar> ubuntu wont load
[10:30] <jan_> lol i'm gone hurt the mozilla dev's next time i see them
[10:30] <jan_> :p
[10:30] <HannaH1> rausb0, what is the command for see this?
[10:30] <rausb0> HannaH1: dpkg -l | grep xchat
[10:30] <a514> what does noatime do in fstab?
[10:31] <lalaputar> ubuntu wont load at all, Im stuck using windows vista
[10:31] <hmhowie> sistom: i seem to remember using kopete for that back in my kde days.
[10:31] <HannaH1> ii  xchat                                      2.8.0-0ubuntu4                         IRC client for X similar to AmIRC
[10:31] <HannaH1> ii  xchat-common                               2.8.0-0ubuntu4                         Common files for X-Chat
[10:31] <lalaputar> horible gross windows vista
[10:31] <a514> lala do you have a LIVE cd?
[10:31] <secher> hmhowie, the problem is that i cant run the program, i know its there, i watched it install but when i try to do what you just said it just says it couldnt find the package
[10:31] <lalaputar> i got one in the mail
[10:31] <rausb0> HannaH1: hmm, not the gnome version. and you have no userlist on the right side?
[10:31] <HannaH1> no
[10:32] <lalaputar> and i downloaded the 64 bit version tonight
[10:32] <HannaH1> i found :) ....
[10:32] <lalaputar> bother fail at the exact same spot
[10:32] <rausb0> HannaH1: hmm. i don't have xchat here, so i cannot help you with that
[10:32] <HannaH1> are hidding :))
[10:32] <lalaputar> both**
[10:32] <rausb0> HannaH1: alright then :)
[10:32] <hmhowie> secher: might i ask which program it is?
[10:32] <arinomi> What version is the testing version of Gutsy Gibbs atm?
[10:32] <secher> vmware
[10:32] <arinomi> *tribe
[10:32] <alvinnsu> hi all ! any one can tell me under ubuntu run windows xp ?
[10:32] <secher> hmhowie, vmware
[10:32] <eck> arinomi: the last pre-beta, the beta is coming out in a few days
[10:33] <hmhowie> secher: and how did you install it?
[10:33] <ghost> rausb0: do you know how to configure xchat-gnome to recevive transfers?
[10:33] <overclucker> don't worry hmhowie, vista isn't useable
[10:33] <arinomi> eck: have they included GNOME 2.20 yet?
[10:33] <eck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[10:33] <cjae_> isn't pre-beta alpha
[10:33] <rausb0> ghost: sorry, no. i havent used xchat in four years.
[10:33] <eck> arinomi: yeah
[10:33] <lalaputar> should i download the big 3.62 gb live cd and try t o run it?
[10:33] <hmhowie> overclucker: that depends on what you want to use it for...
[10:33] <ghost> rausb0: cool
[10:33] <secher> downloaded an installer and followed a guide to install it.. (build, and then make install)
[10:34] <HannaH1> rausb0, my Meneger Packeges found firefox <IP_ADDRESS> :((
[10:34] <lalaputar> i just want to use ubuntu lol
[10:34] <hmhowie> secher: try to locate a vmware binary. did the guide say where it would be installed to?
[10:34] <rausb0> HannaH1: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:34] <overclucker> hmhowie, a coaster sounds nice
[10:34] <HannaH1> 7.04
[10:34] <alvinnsu> me too
[10:34] <ArmedKing> whats the channel for Gutsy support?
[10:35] <hmhowie> overclucker: but with this strange hole in the middle it can't even do that well
[10:35] <sistom> hmhowie: how do I network my windows computer with this one?
[10:35] <rausb0> HannaH1: please post your /etc/apt/sources.list on phpfi.com
[10:35] <damianl> #ubuntu
[10:35] <arinomi> ArmedKing: I don't know, should there be one?
[10:35] <sistom> like share a printer and/or files?
[10:35] <hmhowie> sistom: which services do you want to share?
[10:35] <lalaputar> Im trying to run 7.04 as a livecd and it fails
[10:35] <arinomi> lalaputar: how does it fail?
[10:35] <damianl> compiz and beryl dont show window managers anyone had this problem?
[10:35] <overclucker> hmhowie, heh the little air pocket wil help insulate my cofee cup
[10:35] <HannaH1> ! paste
[10:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <ArmedKing> arinomi: Yes as far as i know
[10:35] <hmhowie> sistom: if you connect them both to the same net, the ubuntu computer should automagically see all shared windows files and printers
[10:36] <lalaputar> it fails when it gets to loading hardware drivers
[10:36] <eck> ArmedKing: #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <ArmedKing> eck: Tnx
[10:36] <HannaH1> rausb0, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38528/
[10:36] <lalaputar> im guessing it fails on my broadcom wireless card
[10:36] <damianl> compiz and beryl dont show window managers anyone had this problem?
[10:36] <arinomi> damianl: yes, I've had that problem as well
[10:36] <salamkenal> hello i need help, i wanna compile the samba new version but error in c ompiler cannot create executeable
[10:37] <secher> hmhowie, its in /vmware in my homefolder
[10:37] <damianl> arinomi um what causes it i cant find any onfo on google
[10:37] <rausb0> HannaH1: and you did   sudo apt-get update  after changing your sources.list?
[10:37] <overclucker> salamkenal, what is the exact error message?
[10:37] <HannaH1> no knwo!...
[10:37] <lalaputar> bcm43xx_microcide5.fw
[10:37] <HannaH1> Fetched 3B in 1s (2B/s)
[10:37] <HannaH1> Reading package lists... Done
[10:37] <hmhowie> secher: just out of curiosity, why did you download vmware and not use a preconfigured virtualisation solution from the repositories?
[10:37] <arinomi> damianl: I'm not sure, it's a common bug. Could be graphics drivers
[10:38] <damianl> oh k, ill have to keep looking on google i guess
[10:38] <salamkenal> configure:error: C compiler cannot create executeables
[10:39] <lalaputar> this really sucks I cant even find a solution anywhere
[10:39] <arinomi> damianl: try asking at the Ubuntu forums :) Or searching, preferrably
[10:39] <Madnez> !wine
[10:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:39] <secher> hmhowie, becuase i found a guide on how to run XP in VMware server, and followed that. Im very new to linux..
[10:39] <hmhowie> salamkenal: if it's failing with a warning like that in the .configure stage, check that you have write permission to the folder and check that you've installed the whole gcc stuff from the repositories
[10:40] <hmhowie> secher: just download the vmware version from the repositories. that will already be configured to work on your system. i myself am a big fan of qemu (another virtualisation software and also in the repositories)
[10:40] <lalaputar> bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[10:40] <overclucker> ubuntu doesn't encourage developement very well . . .
[10:40] <phiras> hello
[10:41] <murlidhar> i have installed desktop search application tracker . how do i use it???????
[10:41] <phiras> i am new to ubuntu
[10:41] <phiras> and i have a question
[10:41] <ikonia> then ask
[10:41] <murlidhar> i mean where can i find the application
[10:41] <phiras> i have only 100 M left
[10:41] <secher> hmhowie, yes i read up on the subject of virualization and decided to try out Xen instead, but i figured its not that smart to have VMware still partly installed.. Thats why i wanna get rid of it
[10:41] <phiras> and i want to increase the space of my home
[10:41] <phiras> ( i do not want to mount another hard)
[10:41] <phiras> how can i do this
[10:42] <ikonia> phiras: you need to delete and re-create the partition, or use a re-sizing tool (at your own risk)
[10:42] <a514> anyone know python?
[10:42] <hmhowie> secher: i just worry what the installer did. i don't much trust third-party installers. if you install xen, there's a 99% chance that any problems you have with it won't have anything to do with vmware
[10:42] <phiras> can you give me a resizing tool
[10:42] <murlidhar> phiras: it is better to save your media in other partitions especially if you have ntfs drives
[10:42] <ikonia> phiras: gparted
[10:43] <z0rz> What's the most efficient way to combine multiple zip files?
[10:43] <ikonia> murlidhar: what are you talking about ?
[10:43] <ikonia> murlidhar: that make no sense
[10:43] <xylan> hi all,
[10:43] <phiras> i have parted
[10:43] <ikonia> phiras: great
[10:43] <phiras> is it good
[10:43] <cjae_> ok I can't find my private gpg key, I have an entry in /usr/bin/gpg but cannot see it in ascii and there is no ~/.ssh folder
[10:43] <secher> hmhowie, it wasnt third party, it was the official release from VMware.. But ok then ill just ignore it, and try to run Xen instead..
[10:43] <a514> could someone please python script vol_id > into pysdm gui for fstab!!
[10:43] <murlidhar> ikonia:  if one has windows xp it is better to save personal folder in ntfs file system
[10:44] <overclucker> phiras, since you're new to ubuntu, stay away from parted
[10:44] <ikonia> phiras: use at your own risk
[10:44] <hmhowie> secher: maybe there's a vmware uninstall script in $HOME/vmware. it's certainly worth a look
[10:44] <lalaputar> anyone know anything about ubuntu hardware booting problems
[10:44] <phiras> ikonia: do you know the command line that i have to use
[10:44] <ikonia> murlidhar: that maes no difference
[10:44] <lalaputar> that deal with this driver bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[10:44] <MasterShrek> secher, delete any files with vmware in the name from /etc/init.d  this will make sure none of the startup scripts get run
[10:44] <phiras> i am in parted now
[10:44] <xylan> is there a way to have automatically home folder on desktop ? i mean im preparing images on server for deploying ubuntu there in lab, but theres complains about that, so id liek to know if there a file configuration sdomewhere to telle gnome to put it automatically on desktop on install
[10:44] <ikonia> phiras: no - use "G"parted, not parted then you have a gui
[10:44] <murlidhar> ikonia: alright
[10:44] <ikonia> phiras: and you must be aware of possible data loss or corruption re-sizing a partition
[10:44] <MasterShrek> secher, actually u dont have to delete them really, u can chmod 644 also
[10:45] <hmhowie> lalaputar: you've tried booting and switching off quiet and splash and you get to a problem with a bcm43xx driver?
[10:45] <phiras> i see
[10:45] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, u need the broadcom firmware
[10:45] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, do u know what kinda wifi card it is?
[10:45] <Phlogi_> what do I need to play mp3s in ubuntu?
[10:45] <lalaputar> switching off the quiet and splash, what is that?
[10:45] <lalaputar> its a broadcom
[10:45] <phiras> ikonia: but the problem is that i am running out of space, so may be i am not able to download the gpart but i found
[10:45] <MasterShrek> Phlogi_, mpg123 i think
[10:45] <murlidhar> phiras: better back up ur files before using gparted
[10:45] <phiras> a
[10:45] <phiras> resize command
[10:45] <ikonia> phiras gparted is on must ubuntu systems
[10:46] <secher> hmhowie, lol how stupid of me not to check that right away.. there is an uninstall in the dir..
[10:46] <MasterShrek> broadcom what lalaputar 4311 4312 4306 4318?
[10:46] <Phlogi_> MasterShrek: can i install all those restricted stuff + codes at once?
[10:46] <ikonia> phiras: most ubuntu systems, sorry
[10:46] <phiras> taking parameters:
[10:46] <gast> hey
[10:46] <overclucker> phiras, you know how to get Gparted?
[10:46] <lalaputar> I have no idea
[10:46] <phiras> yes i will back them
[10:46] <gast> huhu
[10:46] <phiras> no i do not know
[10:46] <MasterShrek> Phlogi_, they are different programs u gotta install, open synaptic and install gstreamer0.10
[10:46] <MasterShrek> that should get most of your codecs
[10:46] <overclucker> sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:46] <lalaputar> its a new hp pavillion dv6408nr
[10:47] <ikonia> phiras: open synaptic and slsect gparted then click "apply" it will donwload it for you
[10:47] <overclucker> do that from console
[10:47] <mm23> hello, can someone recommend me on good software for supervision ? (so i can know what other users on my server done/doing on my server ?)
[10:47] <lalaputar> Ive tried looking some stuff up on it before to no avail
[10:47] <murlidhar> console = terminal
[10:48] <uptownben> I googled "qc timeout" and I see that it is a "known" ubuntu bug, but where can I find a workaround?
[10:48] <overclucker> phiras, then once it is installed, you will find it under system > administration > Gparted
[10:48] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, get the file here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv and extract it to /lib/firmware
[10:48] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, it says 4311, but it should work with whatever u have
[10:48] <lalaputar> ok but how do i add that to the livecd?
[10:48] <ixxi> i would like help getting my 3com wireless card work with wpa, could someone have a look at the output i get when i run wpa_supplicant please?
[10:48] <lalaputar> i dont have ubuntu installed
[10:49] <lalaputar> i can even load the cd cause of this error
[10:49] <MasterShrek> ixxi, i thought u had it working, pastebin the output ill look at it
[10:49] <overclucker> pardon my terminal*ogy
[10:49] <secher> hmhowie, thanks for your help
[10:49] <jan_> where are the global icons based for gnome ?
[10:49] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, u cant add it to the livecd
[10:49] <lalaputar> how?
[10:49] <nox-Hand> Where are gpg pubkeys for repos stored?
[10:49] <MasterShrek> and the firmware not being there wont make the livecd not boot, at least it shouldnt, mine never did
[10:49] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, can u disable your wireless card in your bios, just for the install?
[10:50] <lalaputar> i can sure try
[10:50] <lalaputar> i checked this error just now online
[10:50] <lalaputar> other people have had similar stuff
[10:50] <lalaputar> the diabling the card doesnt seem to work for them
[10:50] <lalaputar> disabling**
[10:50] <phiras> i am downloading the gpart now
[10:50] <lalaputar> but i will try
[10:50] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, the error is that you are missing the firmware, thats not whats making the livecd not boot, im almost positive thats not the problem
[10:51] <lalaputar> ok it just pauses at the checking my network
[10:51] <a514> I noticed pysdm did not start without fstab existing
[10:51] <murlidhar> tracker is already installed in my system how do i access it :?
[10:51] <lalaputar> after those errors
[10:51] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, how long did u wait and let it sit there?
[10:51] <lalaputar> I waited like 15 mins and it didnt load
[10:51] <MasterShrek> hmm
[10:52] <MasterShrek> how new is the laptop?
[10:52] <lalaputar> just bought it
[10:52] <lalaputar> like a week ago
[10:52] <MasterShrek> try a gutsy pre-release, or wait until next month, thatd be my advice for you
[10:52] <overclucker> lalaputar, then return it, heh
[10:52] <MasterShrek> feisty's kernel is a little outdated
[10:52] <lalaputar> ok I'll try a new gutsy
[10:53] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, its still not very stable yet, but worth a shot to see if itll work
[10:53] <lalaputar> can i do much on the pre-release?
[10:53] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: kernel has just been updated i guess
[10:53] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, its a full os
[10:53] <lalaputar> ok i wanted to show my fiancee how good ubuntu is
[10:53] <MasterShrek> oh, in feisty the kernel has been updated?
[10:53] <lalaputar> sucks that i cant even load it on this laptop
[10:54] <kyokhujhin> aloha..
[10:54] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: i have just upgraded and the system is askin a reboot
[10:54] <lalaputar> are there any customized ubuntu versions out there that have been updated that I can download and burn onto a cd
[10:55] <lalaputar> would ultimate ubuntu work?
[10:55] <MasterShrek> feisty is still 2.6.20, gutsy is 2.6.22, i think there have been alot of acpi fixes and stuff, that may be the problem....then again maybe not :P
[10:55] <ikonia> lalaputar ubuntu ultimate is not an ubuntu product and not supported here
[10:55] <kyokhujhin> elo...
[10:55] <MasterShrek> lalaputar, i doube it
[10:55] <lalaputar> ok
[10:55] <kyokhujhin> elo...
[10:55] <kyokhujhin> elo...
[10:55] <MasterShrek> ultimate ubuntu, the things some people will do to get their name out there
[10:55] <lalaputar> its full of crap i feel
[10:56] <a514> someone should code in pysdm gui into Gutsy!! Now before the sun rises!!
[10:56] <lalaputar> but wondering if it was worth a shot
[10:56] <MasterShrek> i would assume
[10:56] <ikonia> lalaputar you make that statment with no backup.
[10:56] <lalaputar> huh?
[10:56] <CorpseFeeder> What does this mean? "Xine engine failed to start" then "No input plugin was found. Maybe the file does not exist or cannot be accessed, or there is an error in the URL." followed by "read error from: /dev/dvd"?
[10:56] <lalaputar> huh
[10:56] <CorpseFeeder> this is happening a lot lately
[10:56] <MasterShrek> CorpseFeeder, do u have xine installed?
[10:56] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder it means the correct plugin was not loaded and the device /dev/dvd cannot be read from
[10:57] <ixxi> MasterShrek, do you find anything interesting in my output file?
[10:57] <MasterShrek> oh, dvd dug, search synaptic for dvdread
[10:57] <MasterShrek> sorry ixxi, i didnt look lol, i will now tho
[10:57] <lalaputar> is there anywhere to leave suggestions to ubuntu developers?
[10:57] <salamkenal> configure:error: C compiler cannot create executeables what that;s mean?
[10:57] <ikonia> yes, bug reports
[10:57] <lalaputar> I have some simple touch ups
[10:57] <salamkenal> configure:error: C compiler cannot create executeables; what that's mean?
[10:57] <lalaputar> to add
[10:58] <ikonia> salamkenal: it means you've not got the correct development packages installed
[10:58] <MasterShrek> ixxi, where is the output?
[10:58] <airstrike> guys, it's 5am
[10:58] <airstrike> go to bed
[10:58] <CorpseFeeder> MasterShrek: ikonia: Yeah, the thing is I have all that DVD stuff installed, and if I take the DVD out and put it in the second DVD drive it works, and then when that one fails with the same message, I swap back to the other drive and it works again too... I don't understand what is causing it...
[10:58] <MasterShrek> ixxi, if u are trying to pm it to me, youll have to register your nick
[10:58] <salamkenal> how to get correct development?
[10:58] <erUSUL> salamkenal: have you instaled build-essential?
[10:58] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: like i have said kernel is updated to 2.6.20
[10:58] <ixxi> MasterShrek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38529/
[10:58] <lalaputar> ok guys thanks
[10:58] <salamkenal> where i can get the build-essential?
[10:58] <ixxi> MasterShrek, sorry
[10:58] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder sounds like udev creating the /dev/dvd node
[10:58] <lalaputar> I'll try the new release
[10:58] <lalaputar> thanks
[10:58] <lalaputar> goodnight
[10:58] <hmhowie> lalaputar: if it is this driver, you should be able to disable it
[10:58] <MasterShrek> 2.6.23 is almost out murlidhar
[10:58] <HannaH1> Hello, i need some help i add this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38530/ why i connot add & remove in pertition?
[10:58] <ikonia> salamkenal install them the package is called build-essential
[10:59] <lalaputar> I'll try it
[10:59] <MasterShrek> but theres no way that matters, he cant boot a livecd
[10:59] <erUSUL> salamkenal: from apt like any other pacvkage including samba ;P
[10:59] <salamkenal> with sudo apt get?
[10:59] <erUSUL> !info build-essential | salamkenal
[10:59] <ubotu> salamkenal: build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:59] <salamkenal> i use apt-get install
[10:59] <hmhowie> lalaputar: you can pass the kernel during booting a request not to use this driver
[10:59] <lalaputar> how
[10:59] <lalaputar> ?
[10:59] <secher> hmhowie, what did you say you used for virtualization?
[11:00] <secher> hmhowie, and will it be able to run xp in it?
[11:00] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: I don't know what you just said, but this error message just seems to pop up at random. Like I can be watching a DVD no problem. Reboot the computer and then the error message is back and the only way to fix it seems to be to try a different drive...
[11:00] <murlidhar> MasterShrek: oh thnks i will wait till it is released
[11:00] <MasterShrek> ixxi, try this sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext
[11:00] <hmhowie> lalaputar: i've forgotten the command, so i'm googling for it now
[11:00] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: udev creates a node called "/dev/dvd" that can only map to one device, it sounds like your /dev/dvd points to a random device each time
[11:01] <hmhowie> lalaputar: it's a standard kernel option. so when the livecd says "press escape to enter grub" or whatever it says, you press escape, then you can modify the boot parameters for the kernel
[11:01] <lalaputar> now has microsoft borrowed off of linux distros with windows vista or did linux borrow from it?
[11:01] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: I see... well is there anyway I can fix that, cos I've got 2 DVD drives in this server?
[11:01] <MasterShrek> ixxi, also if that doesnt work try using the hostap driver
[11:02] <HannaH1> hmhowie,  i add this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38530/ why i connot add & remove in pertition?
[11:02] <lalaputar> hmmmm
[11:02] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: create static udev rules, or make the nodes manually
[11:02] <DamienCassou> hi
[11:02] <ikonia> lalaputar please stop talking nonsense, microsoft and linux are too seperate operating systems. This channel is for support issues only
[11:03] <DamienCassou> I can't burn CDs today (it worked yesterday). Everytime I try, I get a message saying the cd burner is busy. lsof /dev/cdrw returns nothing
[11:03] <lalaputar> ikonia, Im asking a valid question about microsft borrowing from the opensource world
[11:03] <lalaputar> please don't be an ignorant dick
[11:03] <ikonia> lalaputar that is irelevent to this channel
[11:03] <ikonia> lalaputar I'm not ignorant, that that language is uncalled for
[11:03] <lalaputar> you are
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: I'd love to create static udev rules, unfortuantely I have no idea how to even start thinking about that....
[11:03] <lalaputar> there was no reason to be rude
[11:03] <DamienCassou> $ sudo wodim blank=disc
[11:03] <DamienCassou> Error trying to open /dev/cdrw exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.
[11:04] <ikonia> lalaputar I'm not being rude, I'm asking you to not discuss not releveant information in thei support only channel
[11:04] <lalaputar> that's cool
[11:04] <lalaputar> Im fine with that
[11:04] <lalaputar> my bad
[11:04] <lalaputar> peace everyone
[11:04] <lalaputar> goodnight
[11:04] <ixxi> MasterShrek, none of it works
[11:04] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder ok, what you need to do is look at the udev rules and the out put from dmesg at boot time to see how your dvd rom drives are identified
[11:05] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: then based on how they are identified alter the rules
[11:05] <DamienCassou> can somebody help me please?
[11:05] <wabid> is there an easy way to clone my user profile so i have a second that is exactly the same
[11:05] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: where do I find there udev rules?
[11:05] <ikonia> wabid: copy the home dir
[11:06] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: errr /etc/udev/rules.d I think off the top of my head
[11:06] <wabid> lets say im user
[11:06] <wabid> now i want user2 to appear on the login screen
[11:06] <wabid> but be a different account
[11:06] <ikonia> add a user
[11:06] <ixxi> MasterShrek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38532/
[11:06] <erUSUL> DamienCassou: some other process is accesing the drive... try 'sudo lsof /dev/cdrw'
[11:06] <ikonia> just create another user
[11:06] <wabid> yea but that wont have the same settings
[11:06] <erUSUL> DamienCassou: too see the culprit
[11:06] <ikonia> what settings do you want the same ?
[11:07] <DamienCassou> erUSUL: nothing is returned
[11:07] <wabid> gnome, firefox gimp, compiz
[11:07] <wabid> xchat i dunno everything
[11:07] <ikonia> wabid: so copy the current users home dir into the new users home dir
[11:07] <wabid> i think ive tried that before with bad results
[11:08] <ikonia> wabid: thats how its done, so if you can't do it, you can't do it. I've created clone profiles many times even using the users home dir to popuplate etc skel
[11:08] <MasterShrek> ixxi, what kinda card was it again?
[11:08] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: I see a lot of files in that folder...
[11:08] <z0rz> Is there a way to list the contents of a zip file in the command line?
[11:09] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder grep for dvd
[11:09] <erUSUL> DamienCassou: :S
[11:09] <ikonia> z0rz: think you have to unzip it
[11:09] <z0rz> ikonia: So if it's a 2gb file and I'm not sure if it's the right 2gb file I have to unzip it first to make sure?
[11:09] <wabid> why does it say my password needs to be six characters
[11:09] <sistom> hmhowie: is there a way to change/alter the boot screen?
[11:09] <ikonia> z0rz: I'm not aware of a "fake" unzip
[11:09] <overclucker> z0rz, man zip? or whatever it's called
[11:10] <ikonia> wabid because thats the password policy
[11:10] <ixxi> MasterShrek, 3com 3crwe154g72
[11:10] <wabid> not when you install ubuntu
[11:10] <MasterShrek> z0rz, unzip -l
[11:10] <sistom> ?
[11:10] <ikonia> wabid I think it is, or maybe an ubuntu update updates the policy
[11:10] <ikonia> I think 6 chars is the default
[11:10] <z0rz> MasterShrek: Thanks
[11:10] <Frogzoo> password policy is set in about 3 different places
[11:10] <wabid> not when you install, ive done it with 2
[11:10] <minimec> Hi folks. I cannot get rid of a broken package. The package is a unofficial ampache package for feisty that I installed on a edgy server, believing that the server was on feisty to. Now I am completly blocked!
[11:11] <ixxi> i
[11:11] <xylan> anybody has an idea for my problem ?
[11:11] <frojnd> hello there
[11:11] <secher> can anyone tell me the best virtualization tool for running XP..?
[11:11] <ikonia> minimec well, thats pretty messy. Whats the error you get when you try to remove it
[11:11] <z0rz> How can I combine multiple zip files efficiently?
[11:11] <warrick> My laptop likes to shut off while installing Ubuntu, I think it's overheating
[11:11] <ikonia> secher anything, vmware ? kvm ? xen ?
[11:11] <overclucker> cracklib should come with ubuntu, standard
[11:11] <MasterShrek> ixxi, it looks like you may have to use ndiswrapper to load the driver for wpa as wpa_supplicant doesnt apparently support your card
[11:11] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: grep gave me 8 files each containing some gobblygook which mentions "dvd"...
[11:11] <erUSUL> minimec: try sudo dpkg --remove --force-all <packagename>
[11:11] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder so look through them
[11:12] <MasterShrek> xylan, whats your problem?
[11:12] <Frogzoo> warrick: tried installing with the setting acpi=off ?
[11:12] <minimec> erUSUL: I tried that... No fu..ing chance!
[11:12] <minimec> ikonia: error 10
[11:12] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: but I don't know what I'm looking for....
[11:12] <frojnd> I've just install lotus and make it so everyone can see it with commadn chown -R myusername:myusername lotus/  But there is still NO lotus under Applications -> office :S How can I refresh those icons ??
[11:12] <ikonia> minimec don't use bad language, or imply it
[11:12] <ixxi> MasterShrek, i'm ready to give up...have spent too many hours on this already
[11:12] <warrick> Frogzoo no, how do I do that
[11:12] <ikonia> minimec there must be more detail than that
[11:13] <MasterShrek> ixxi, can u just use wep? or do u need to have wpa?
[11:13] <minimec> ikonia: post-removal script gave error 10
[11:13] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: am I looking for something like "ENV{ID_CDROM_DVD}=="?*",		SYMLINK+="dvd""?
[11:13] <hmhowie> frojnd: you could just add an icon. maybe the lotus installer has been remiss here
[11:13] <DamienCassou> I have no process working with /dev/cdrw, but burning tools keep complaining about the busy device
[11:13] <minimec> ikonia: Sorry for the language ;)
[11:13] <DamienCassou> can somebody help me please?
[11:13] <secher> ikonia, well i tried vmware but it wouldnt run properly on my system..
[11:13] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder thats it
[11:13] <warrick> Frogzoo: what I don't understand is that debian seems to run forever, I just don't have the driver to get networking to install
[11:14] <ikonia> secher so fix it, or try the others I suggested
[11:14] <Frogzoo> warrick: not sure, not had to do it - google knows though
[11:14] <xylan> MasterShrek:
[11:14] <a514> so why is xdvdshrink not a deb in the repos?
[11:14] <secher> k then
[11:14] <xylan>  is there a way to have automatically home folder on desktop ? i mean im preparing images on server for deploying ubuntu there in lab, but theres complains about that, so id liek to know if there a file configuration sdomewhere to telle
[11:14] <xylan>                gnome to put it automatically on desktop on install
[11:14] <murlidhar> DamienCassou: press ctrl+alt+backspace and see if it helps
[11:14] <DamienCassou> bye :-)
[11:15] <ikonia> xylan put it in /etc/skel so that when a users is created it's in the default settings
[11:15] <xylan> and when install ubuntu thres no user on it, so i search gnome default conf file to have home folder + computer auto when a user is created
[11:15] <Frogzoo> warrick: pressing 'e' at the cd boot should give you a grub config, and append acpi=off to kernel line
[11:15] <ixxi> MasterShrek, yeah i guess the easiest thing is to switch, anoying tho
[11:15] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: I only see stuff in those rules files with /dev/cdrom.... I don't see anything under /dev/dvd
[11:15] <frojnd> well... anyone
[11:15] <overclucker> a514, caue you haven't dpkg.ed it yet
[11:16] <warrick> Frogzoo: Ok I'll try, but why would this work?
[11:16] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder you need to read up on udev rules, as I don't really have time to walk you through it, more so when I don't have an ubuntu box to compare with
[11:16] <Frogzoo> warrick: acpi's known to cause problems in installation with some systems
[11:16] <xylan> ikonia: theres just Examples in it , do i have to put a nautilus-home.desktop in it ?
[11:16] <xylan> thats it ?
[11:16] <a514> cluck alien rpm->deb
[11:16] <ikonia> xylan they are not examples, they are the default creation files on a user creation
[11:17] <ikonia> cluck alien is a bad idea
[11:17] <ikonia> oops
[11:17] <ikonia> "alien" is a bad idea, full stop
[11:17] <DamienCassou> murlidhar: it helps. Thanks
[11:18] <ixxi> has anyone got a 3com 3crw154g72 wirless pc card to work with wpa in feisty?
[11:18] <murlidhar> DamienCassou: no mention
[11:18] <DamienCassou> murlidhar: what do you mean?
[11:18] <ikonia> ixxi is it supported in the current kernel ?
[11:18] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia: ok, just one more question... is the bit in quotes after SYMLINK+= the name which normally you see after "/dev/" when you browse the file system? Is that where it gets the name from?
[11:18] <overclucker> ikonia, it was a great idea, just poorly implemented (;
[11:18] <xylan> ikonia: so i have to cp nautilus-home.desktop /etc/skell/Examples
[11:18] <ikonia> overclucker not really usable due to version differences between distros
[11:18] <ikonia> xylan no
[11:18] <murlidhar> DamienCassou: don't mentions thanks there is no need of it  . We  are meant to help each other
[11:19] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder that rule is creating a symlink, there is no quick answer you need to learn the right settings for device node creation
[11:19] <ixxi> ikonia: yeah i think it is supposed to work out of the box
[11:19] <ikonia> ixxi you need to check and verify that
[11:19] <ixxi> !wpa
[11:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:19] <xylan> i'll have more than 100 users who'll install ubuntu via pxe/getconfig script
[11:19] <xylan> it'll just ask for a user name and a pass
[11:19] <ikonia> xylan how is that relevant ?
[11:20] <xylan> they'l have to have a full desktop ready for wrking
[11:20] <xylan> i have already an image working fully with all labs apps
[11:20] <ikonia> xylan why are you telling us this, just list the problem
[11:20] <xylan> problem is
[11:20] <DamienCassou> murlidhar: ok :-)
[11:20] <xylan> i want when a user is created
[11:20] <DamienCassou> murlidhar: but thank you :-)
[11:21] <xylan> i want him to have on its dektop a home folder icon and computer icon
[11:21] <ikonia> xylan and I've told you how to do it
[11:21] <salamkenal> i wanna install samba from the source, but when it access /usr/local/samba access denied
[11:21] <murlidhar> DamienCassou: k u r welcome
[11:21] <xylan> you told me to add it to /etc/skell
[11:21] <salamkenal> how to grant the access
[11:21] <ikonia> xylan /etc/skel is the default files created at user creation, so anything you want creating, such as a desktop shot cut, you need to add
[11:22] <nightfreak> hi, after upgrading from dapper to edgy i cannot boot anymore, i get this error: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(9,1)
[11:22] <nightfreak> any idea?
[11:22] <ikonia> nightfreak your had disk layout has changed during edgy --> fesity possible down tot he fact that fesity now references block id
[11:22] <salamkenal> i wanna install samba from the source, but when it access /usr/local/samba access denied! how to grant it???
[11:23] <ikonia> salamkenal why install from source ?
[11:23] <ikonia> salamkenal none of your other programs will be linked against it
[11:23] <[nrx] > would you believe it.. there are pubs here with christmas trees up already
[11:23] <[nrx] > ;o
[11:23] <salamkenal> because i must get the new samba
[11:23] <overclucker> salamkenal, sudo amke install
[11:23] <salamkenal> ic
[11:23] <ikonia> salamkenal if you are unable to fix simple user account permissions, you shouldn't be building from soruce
[11:23] <overclucker> make      ^
[11:23] <salamkenal> i know
[11:23] <ikonia> salamkenal why do you want the newer samba version ?
[11:23] <squibs> Hi all, can you tell me whether openVPN on the client be run as a normal user?
[11:24] <ikonia> salamkenal what is the driver behind it
[11:24] <salamkenal> because the wine wanna use it
[11:24] <nightfreak> ikonia, how to fix it? its a remote server, i have a serial console and can start a rescue system
[11:24] <ikonia> salamkenal wine doesn't want to use later samba versions, wine doesn't care about samba versions
[11:24] <ikonia> nightfreak check the grub install parameters and the fstab on the unmounted system
[11:24] <salamkenal> and it's only in samba 25 or above
[11:25] <salamkenal> and my ubuntu just 24
[11:25] <ikonia> salamkenal what are you talking about ? whats in samba version 25
[11:25] <salamkenal> emmm i have discuss it before and wine use it
[11:25] <salamkenal> ntlm_auth if i not wrong
[11:25] <ikonia> ok, I'm not interested, but if you have problem fixingg user permission errors, your going to break your system as nothing will link against libs in /usr/local/lib
[11:26] <ixxi> ikonia: it is supported but it says:
[11:26] <overclucker> salamkenal, #winehq ?
[11:26] <ixxi> ikonia: "Painless ! The only bad point is that the driver doesn't support signal strength detection. Not a big deal anyway. *Broken* in Feisty due to driver change from prism54 to prism54pci"
[11:26] <ikonia> ixxi what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:26] <ixxi> ikonia: in the comments
[11:26] <salamkenal> but when ubuntu 7.04 have latest samba?
[11:26] <ixxi> ikonia: 7.04
[11:27] <ikonia> ixxi: does the line *Broken* in Feisty due to driver change from prism54 to prism54pci" not give you a clue that in 7.04 its BORKEN
[11:27] <wabid> is there a way to have a user automatically log in, wait for it, when you click their username.  i still want it to prompt for a user but i want some type of guest account
[11:27] <ikonia> BROKEN
[11:27] <ikonia> salamkenal it won't
[11:27] <z0rz> How can I add the contents of a directory to a zip file?  zip -r Foo.zip Foo doesn't do it because it puts Foo in the root of the zip file.. and I want the root to contain the contents of Foo .. not the Foo directory itself
[11:27] <wabid> can you enter the directory foo and then compress *
[11:27] <nightfreak> ikonia it uses lilo, what exactly do i have to change? i dont understand "...fesity now references block id"
[11:27] <overclucker> z0rz, foo/*  ?
[11:28] <ikonia> nightfreak why ar eyou using lilo ?
[11:28] <salamkenal> i have already call sudo make install but why samba version still 24 not 26 that i have installed
[11:28] <salamkenal> ???
[11:28] <CroX> My alt key wont work properly, it's activating application shortcuts instead of giving me brackets, dollar sign, etc.
[11:28] <ikonia> salamkenal as I told you nothing will be linked against it and your PATH variable won't include /usr/local/bin
[11:28] <nightfreak> ikonia its a root server, it was setup like this
[11:28] <CroX> When I tried changing it in "Keyboard Preferences" it told me that XKB had encountered a bug. And I can't seem to fix it. :/
[11:28] <z0rz> overclucker: Nope that does the same as just foo
[11:28] <kahrytan> Did everyone install the new kernel last night
[11:28] <ixxi> ikonia: yeah ok, thnx anyway
[11:28] <ikonia> nightfreak what's a "root" server
[11:29] <salamkenal> so what i can do???
[11:29] <nightfreak> a remote server run by a webhoster
[11:29] <damianl> CroX oh hang on you answered my reply
[11:29] <ikonia> salamkenal well, you've started the process of messing up your box
[11:29] <DarKnesS_WolF> anyone knows where i can find an english ubuntu alternative installation guide wiht pics ?
[11:29] <ikonia> nightfreak ask them to fix it
[11:29] <CroX> damianl: Heh, alright.
[11:29] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF what part is not clear to you ?
[11:29] <ikonia> DarKnesS_WolF the alt-cd asks you basic questions in english
[11:29] <nightfreak> ikonia they probably wont
[11:30] <z0rz> How can I add the contents of a directory to a zip file?  zip -r Foo.zip Foo doesn't do it because it puts Foo in the root of the zip file.. and I want the root to contain the contents of Foo .. not the Foo directory itself
[11:30] <ikonia> nightfreak ask them - if its their box
[11:30] <salamkenal> ikonia: so what can make the 26 run well?
[11:30] <minimec> ikonia: man I am happy. I was able to force an install of the debian sid package, which I was able to remove normally afterwards. My edgy server is back!
[11:30] <ikonia> salamkenal if this is a wine requirment as in #winehq
[11:30] <CroX> It's hell trying to code by using c/p to do brackets and dollar signs. :P
[11:30] <xylan> ikonia: gnome-dev told me i have to play with gconf
[11:30] <ikonia> minimec don't install debian package on ubuntu
[11:30] <amadeux> #vmware
[11:30] <ikonia> xylan yup, thats a good way of doing it
[11:31] <salamkenal> they do not now about samba in ubuntu
[11:31] <ikonia> salamkenal your not installing samba from ubuntu - your doing your own thing
[11:31] <salamkenal> there is chat room like #samba?
[11:31] <overclucker> z0rz, zip -D   do not add directory entries
[11:31] <ikonia> salamkenal yes, its called #samba
[11:31] <salamkenal> #samba
[11:31] <salamkenal> join #samba
[11:31] <minimec> ikonia: Just solved my broken package problem. I will not use a debian package. I used the package to overwrite the broken package ;)
[11:31] <nightfreak> ikonia no chance to get it working with lilo?
[11:32] <overclucker> z0rz, not sure if that's it but might want to try
[11:32] <amadeux>  I know that some vmware products are able to run microsoft virtual pc appliances (vmc/vhd) on windows. But can some vmware product for linux also do that?
[11:32] <z0rz> overclucker: Nope
[11:32] <overclucker> oh well
[11:32] <ikonia> nightfreak I'm not going to work on a server that has a custom config and you don't know why
[11:32] <z0rz> overclucker: That doesn't add the directories below the current one
[11:32] <macro182> hello! I've upgraded from feisty to gutsy. After some daily updates I've received this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/428/ Any idea? ;)
[11:32] <ikonia> nightfreak lilo is very non-standard so without knowing why its there its risky to mess with it
[11:32] <ixxi> is there a way to "restore" ubuntu the way it was right after a fresh install?
[11:32] <ikonia> macro182 gusty is still in development so expect breakages
[11:33] <ikonia> macro182: gusty is in #ubuntu+1
[11:33] <wabid> is there any way to have a passwordless account for a underprivileged account
[11:33] <macro182> ikonia: thanks ;)
[11:33] <ikonia> wabid: yup, blank the password field
[11:33] <wabid> hows that
[11:33] <ikonia> ixxi clean install
[11:33] <ikonia> wabid man passwd
[11:33] <CroX> damianl: You got something for me?
[11:34] <_Ahti[PDA] > I
[11:35] <nightfreak> ikonia maybe i should start again with a fresh dapper installation an try to move from lilo to grub before upgrading to edgy?
[11:35] <z0rz> Wow.. really? No one knows how to zip the contents of a directory without zipping the root directory itself?
[11:35] <salamkenal> ikonia: can i just replace the ntlm_auth package to the latest version?
[11:35] <ronnie> how do I make icon text look like this http://xubuntu.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/xfdesktop1.png
[11:36] <un_dave> hi all.
[11:36] <overclucker> z0rz, try zipping from withing the dir, such as zip ../foo.zip *
[11:36] <z0rz> overclucker: Good idea
[11:36] <un_dave> does ubuntu support ntfs writing out of the box ?
[11:36] <un_dave> or do i need to install ntfs-3g
[11:37] <overclucker> un_dave, needs ntfs-3g
[11:38] <salamkenal> ikonia: can i?
[11:38] <un_dave> overclucker: sweet, cheers
[11:38] <overclucker> haha
[11:38] <murldhar_> un_dave: u need to install ntfs-3g, ntfs-3g config
[11:38] <Expect>  anyone have a external dvd recorder and it works good?
[11:38] <wabid> one more for the night, whats the easiest way to make the backspace key go back one page in firefox
[11:39] <wabid> nvm
[11:39] <un_dave> i'm installing ntfs-config, according to the forum i'm reading thats the go
[11:39] <ikonia> salamkenal can you what
[11:39] <salamkenal> ikonia: can i just replace the ntlm_auth package to the latest version?
[11:40] <ikonia> salamkenal no
[11:40] <murldhar_> un_dave: yeah sorry u gotta install ntfs-config
[11:40] <Frogzoo> salamkenal: ooh ntlm_auth is nasty
[11:40] <Frogzoo> salamkenal: you can update, but it will still blow
[11:40] <warrick> Frogzoo, Ok I'm installing now, it's a matter of time before it shuts off
[11:41] <Frogzoo> warrick: you set acpi=off ?
[11:41] <warrick> Frogzoo, yes
[11:41] <Frogzoo> hmmm
[11:41] <un_dave> when i try eject my external hdd, it says "cannot eject volume"
[11:42] <un_dave> anyone know how to fix that?
[11:42] <Frogzoo> un_dave: close all processes accessing it
[11:42] <salamkenal> frogzoo:why nasty
[11:42] <Frogzoo> un_dave: fuser -c /external/drive
[11:42] <warrick> Frogzoo, I'm hoping it installs all the way through... do you think it might have anything to do with this Athenos restricted driver
[11:42] <un_dave> kk
[11:42] <Frogzoo> salamkenal: high cpu, low throughput
[11:43] <salamkenal> but i really need samba the latest version. anuone can help?
[11:43] <warrick> Atheros Hardware Abstract Layer
[11:43] <un_dave> Frogzoo: that didnt return anything?
[11:43] <ikonia> salamkenal what part of what I'm telling you is not clear
[11:44] <brad_> hello
[11:44] <brad_> i would like to ask question about parallel port on my Toshiba 2410
[11:44] <salamkenal> no :((
[11:45] <brad_> has anyone got parport work with Feisty and with parport and parport_pc module loaded?
[11:45] <salamkenal> ikonia: i actually not clear at all cause maybe i really dummy
[11:45] <ikonia> salamkenal it is VERY unwise to update samba in the method your suggesting
[11:45] <rsfriends> hei, i have install steam, but when i start steam, i cant se the text or nothing, what do i need to do?
[11:46] <Frogzoo> un_dave: tried sudo eject ?
[11:46] <mzuverink> whats the command to tell what current versionof ubuntu you are running/
[11:46] <overclucker> rsfriends, click where you think it should be
[11:46] <murlidhar_> un_dave: prbly u have to uncheck the externel disk in ntfs-config found in application>system tools
[11:46] <salamkenal> there is anyway to update the ubuntu repository like request
[11:46] <Frogzoo> mzuverink: lsbrelease -a
[11:46] <Frogzoo> mzuverink: lsb_release -a
[11:46] <A2t3c13> i could really use an educated guess on what I should do with a printer I'm trying to get going.I have been going at it in circles all day with research.I have come full circle now I need to decide
[11:46] <rsfriends> is there other thing i can do to fix that?
[11:46] <warrick> heh i like this language: because maybe I really am dummy
[11:46] <ikonia> salamkenal your unlikey to get that, if you wait until october gusty will have an update
[11:46] <qqq> Hi! what should i do to instruct ubuntu that my PC connected to Internet through proxy?
[11:47] <overclucker> rsfriends, is this wine?
[11:47] <Frogzoo> A2t3c13: d/l the right ppd & install it in cups & done?
[11:47] <rsfriends> yes
[11:47] <un_dave> murlidhar_: i just checked that write thing, and then tried to eject, and it couldnt mount it because of some ntfs issue
[11:47] <USMarine> qqq define proxy settings
[11:47] <overclucker> rsfriends, that's all
[11:47] <un_dave> murlidhar_: now running a chkdsk on the drive, then will try mounting/ejecting
[11:47] <overclucker> rrscheck out cedega, cedegacvs(free)
[11:48] <rsfriends> is wine the problem?
[11:48] <RonaBlaze> Hey... who is network administrator/routing staff around here?
[11:48] <qqq> USMarine what shoud I enter somewhere or should I change some configs?
[11:48] <overclucker> rsfriends, not exactly
[11:48] <USMarine> qqq there's a GUI for that
[11:48] <rsfriends> ok, what is best cedega or wine
[11:48] <murlidhar_> qqq: go to system>prefrences>Network proxy and set it up there
[11:48] <overclucker> more like the comination of wine and steam is the problem
[11:48] <salamkenal> ikonia: you mean that samba update version will added in october???
[11:49] <salamkenal> i use ubuntu 7.04
[11:49] <overclucker> rsfriends, that dependds on the task
[11:49] <Frogzoo> overclucker: you tried appdb?
[11:49] <A2t3c13> i have a x8350 lexmark just about all the data says that it cant be run in linux but i found a piece that said it was identical to z42 and i do have that as a system added option but that tells me i need gutenprint-foomatic
[11:49] <rsfriends> k
[11:49] <overclucker> Frogzoo, appdb?
[11:49] <Frogzoo> !appdb | rsfriends
[11:49] <ubotu> rsfriends: Appdb is a database of apps & help for !Windows programs that run under !wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:49] <qqq> ok, thanks a lot!
[11:49] <rsfriends> thx ;)
[11:50] <Frogzoo> !info gutenprint-foomatic
[11:50] <ubotu> Package gutenprint-foomatic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:50] <un_dave> Frogzoo: sudo eject did it
[11:50] <Frogzoo> un_dave: cool
[11:50] <salamkenal> !info built-essential
[11:50] <Frogzoo> un_dave: give it the user option in /etc/fstab if you don't want to sudo
[11:50] <ubotu> Package built-essential does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:50] <A2t3c13> gutenprint-foomatic has documentation for my printer saying it cant be done either,but they do have the z42 listed and i guess i want to get the gutenprint-foomatic installed
[11:50] <salamkenal> !info wine
[11:50] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[11:51] <un_dave> Frogzoo: how do i do that ?
[11:51] <mzuverink> Frogzoo, that did not work
[11:51] <salamkenal> !info samba
[11:51] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 3262 kB, installed size 7992 kB
[11:51] <salamkenal> !info ntlm_auth
[11:51] <ubotu> Package ntlm_auth does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:51] <Frogzoo> mzuverink: lsb_release -a works, pebkac
[11:52] <Frogzoo> un_dave: man fstab
[11:52] <un_dave> k
[11:52] <A2t3c13> http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Lexmark   take a look
[11:53] <A2t3c13> mine is the x8350
[11:54] <A2t3c13> remember I said the z42 is said to work
[11:55] <Crozar> guys how to put widgets on ubuntu compiz?
[11:55] <subxero> i'm having a problem installing Ubuntu. i've successfully installed Ubuntu on lots of machines, and in general i know my way around Linux, but this one's got me stumped
[11:56] <Frogzoo> A2t3c13: "Color inkjet printer, max. 4800x1200 dpi, this is a Paperweight"
[11:56] <gorski> why i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu?
[11:56] <murlidhar_> subxero: could u be more specific
[11:56] <Crozar> how can we put widgets for compiz ?
[11:56] <A2t3c13> i read i can get it going though with a z42
[11:56] <subxero> yeah, i was waiting to see if anyone was gonna help before i type my problem ^^ sorry
[11:57] <subxero> anyway, upon the install finishes successfully, it looks like, but it completely skips Grub installation
[11:57] <A2t3c13> z42 leads me back to foomatic
[11:57] <newdude> hey there  peoples, i just upgraded my linux kernel to 2.6.22, but since that i cant play .swf files anymore, any clues?
[11:57] <subxero> and i don't know why.
[11:57] <murlidhar_> subxero: everybody is watching just be patient
[11:57] <Frogzoo> A2t3c13: ok, well gl with that
[11:57] <newdude> oh and btw, why cant i connect to irc channels with SSL? when its checked i can never connect to a server :S
[11:58] <murlidhar_> subxero: are u sure it is in 1024 cylinder limit
[11:58] <nanonyme> newdude, which client?
[11:58] <nanonyme> which server?
[11:58] <newdude> XChat
[11:58] <newdude> this server
[11:58] <gorski> why i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu?
[11:58] <nanonyme> what does it say when you try to connect with ssl?
[11:58] <subxero> 1024 cyl limit? you lost me there. sorry.
[11:58] <newdude> nothing, just sits there trying to connect
[11:58] <nanonyme> newdude, do you have the right port?
[11:58] <newdude> but doesnt connect lol
[11:59] <newdude> it tries port 9999
[11:59] <nanonyme> :P
[11:59] <nanonyme> so no
[11:59] <A2t3c13> thats the thing i want to know if it will work if its even feasible http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting/Database/DriverPackages
[11:59] <murlidhar_> in netbios there is a cylinder limit of 1024
[11:59] <newdude> is port 9999 the right one?
[11:59] <newdude> can i use port 666 instead?
[11:59] <nanonyme> newdude, freenode doesn't use ssl
[11:59] <newdude> 666 ftw
[11:59] <ikonia> netbios is a network protocol, nothing to do with hard disks
[11:59] <newdude> oh ok np
[11:59] <murlidhar_> MasterShrek: can explain u more of this cuz even i am a noobie
[12:00] <newdude> how about the .swf problem? i cant seem to play them in totem anymore after i upgraded my kernel :S
[12:00] <murlidhar_> subxero: any ways sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt and paste-bin
[12:00] <newdude> had to reinstall my ATi driver too :S
[12:00] <newdude> np with that though, its just playing media i got trouble with :S
[12:00] <subxero> the PC is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 512 MB RAM, one hard disk is serial ATA (80 GB, has Windows on it) and the other is parallel ATA (40 GB, i'm installing Linux here)
[12:01] <subxero> i want grub to do the standard "which OS do you want to boot?" but grub never installs for some reason. installing it manually has proved fruitless 'cause i have no idea what i'm doing
[12:01] <gorski> why i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu?
[12:01] <murlidhar_> sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt and paste-bin for a clear picture
[12:01] <newdude> should i try reinstall gstreamer codecs?
[12:01] <kimmey2k3> I run Feisty server and its complaining about /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/Human.xml when I start up. I tried to remove it completely first, that didnt work. Then i reinstalled with apt-get install human-theme and that didnt work neither. Also its no Human-folder in /usr/share/gdm/themes/ - Any that kowns a simple method to fix it?
[12:01] <USMarine> subxero grub must be installed in the master disck
[12:02] <subxero> but the installer never asks me where to put it. if i choose Advanced, it'll let me enter a location (in the format of hdx, where x is a number) but i don't know which disk is hd0, and which is hd1
[12:03] <murlidhar_> subxero: boot through livecd first
[12:03] <newdude> anyone had problems with media files after upgrading to gutsy kernel?
[12:03] <USMarine> hd0 is master
[12:03] <newdude> cause i have :S
[12:03] <USMarine> newdude nop all fine here
[12:03] <murlidhar_> subxero: that why i was asking u to paste-bin
[12:03] <darkchr0n0s> hello world
[12:03] <newdude> well you wouldnt, your a bloody marine omg -.-
[12:03] <Balaams_Miracle> Possible partitail fix for bug #1 : http://www.globalisation.eu/briefings/competition-policy/unbundling-microsoft-windows-200709231241/
[12:03] <USMarine> newdude gutsy support ain't here
[12:04] <darkchr0n0s> where is it then /.
[12:04] <gorski> why i cannot remove items from my System>Preferences>Main Menu?
[12:04] <USMarine> !ubuntu+1
[12:04] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:04] <newdude> cool ty
[12:04] <USMarine> gorski kde?
[12:04] <CroX> Could someone please help me figure out my keyboard problem? After the update today it wont let me do dollar signs, brackets or any of those special characters. When I try to change it's behaviour in "Keyboard Preferences", I get an error saying "Error activating XKB configuration.".
[12:04] <gorski> gnome
[12:04] <USMarine> i don't use that
[12:05] <a514> ubotu ubotu what makes ubuntu unstable?
[12:05] <a514> ubotu what makes ubuntu unstable?
[12:05] <kane77> is there informix database available somewhere?
[12:05] <D4N`> interest
[12:05] <murlidhar_> gorski: u mean u are not able to uncheck the meny items????
[12:05] <gorski> yes
[12:06] <cs_1912> hey wanna ask bout my ubuntu
[12:06] <gorski> is that a bug?
[12:06] <murlidhar_> mmm only a expert can guide u i guess and i am a noob :( sorry
[12:06] <cs_1912> i can't ./configure many of my application
[12:06] <USMarine> cs_1912 The Ask To Ask protocol wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask protocol, so just ask your question.
[12:07] <murlidhar_> gorski: if u r using feisty no it isn't cuz i don't find any problems in my system
[12:07] <USMarine> cs_1912 missing libs?
[12:08] <cs_1912> it says that the pkg-config something missing.
[12:08] <cs_1912> i've done the apt-get install build-essential and many of them.
[12:08] <cs_1912> but still i can't ./configure my application
[12:08] <warrick> Ok I got all the way up to Configuring hardware 94% on Ubuntu install before it shut down this time
[12:09] <locellcount> How do you install the java plugin for 64bit feisty? I tried blackdown but that just crashes firefox (64 bit build)
[12:09] <USMarine> cs_1912 paste the output using a pastebin site
[12:09] <cs_1912> wait
[12:09] <USMarine> locellcount blackdown *sigh*
[12:09] <locellcount> ah, not teh only one then?
[12:11] <cs_1912> USMarine: http://www.pastebin.org/3282
[12:11] <USMarine> locellcount not really
[12:11] <USMarine> locellcount http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Java_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:11] <cs_1912> can you help me?
[12:12] <howtoo> now I just did a dist-upgrade on a fresh ubuntu install.. After the dist-upgrade I no longer can recieve dhcp addresses or ping other hosts.. is this a known problem? never used ubuntu anything, but I'm a long time debian user
[12:12] <locellcount> yup, followed that... and yet missed the bit that says there's no 64 bit plugin. Nuts
[12:12] <USMarine> cs_1912 do you have gtk+ installed?
[12:12] <cs_1912> how to know that?
[12:12] <USMarine> cs_1912 open synaptic and search for that package
[12:12] <lianglahad> kudahitam12
[12:13] <lianglahad> password kudahitam12
[12:13] <a514> Please someone code a CLAM AV FireFox addon extension to scan every download!!
[12:13] <USMarine> lianglahad wtf
[12:13] <darkchr0n0s> !help
[12:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:13] <cs_1912> usmarine : the gtk-engine etc???
[12:14] <cs_1912> well i need some teaching. i'm a noob on ubuntu.
[12:14] <Hannah1> It's good? i add this in /etc/fstab >> /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1/ ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0
[12:14] <Hannah1> for edit in ntfs partition
[12:14] <murlidhar_> !gtk++
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <USMarine> cs_1912 the paste shows the missing libs
[12:14] <cs_1912> yes.
[12:14] <murlidhar_> !gtk+
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <cs_1912> but i don't know how to get rid about it.
[12:14] <cs_1912> get rid of it..
[12:14] <darkchr0n0s> !compiz
[12:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:15] <USMarine> cs_1912 install them
[12:15] <cs_1912> well, i've install them
[12:15] <USMarine> same error ?
[12:15] <cs_1912> install using apt-get right?
[12:15] <cs_1912> yes, the same error.
[12:16] <USMarine> install the *dev* versions of those packages
[12:16] <cs_1912> search on synaptic?
[12:17] <murlidhar_> cs_1912: better go through synaptic package and install the dev packages from it
[12:17] <kahrytan> /join #freeciv
[12:17] <cs_1912> well, how to find the *dev* version?
[12:17] <Hannah1> It's good? i add this in /etc/fstab >> /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1/ ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0 , new i can edit in partion...
[12:17] <USMarine> kahrytan /quit
[12:17] <kahrytan> USMarine, im not an idiot.
[12:18] <USMarine> then don't pub ffs
[12:18] <nightfreak> how to find out which package versions are in dapper backports?
[12:18] <f_quint> help me with 32-64 bit distrs of ubuna plz
[12:18] <USMarine> nightfreak in versions tab it should tell you that
[12:18] <redlime> hello
[12:18] <kahrytan> USMarine, typo. accidentally pushed // twice
[12:18] <USMarine> f_quint what kind of help
[12:19] <nightfreak> USMarine: which version tab?
[12:19] <cs_1912> well, how to find the dev version???
[12:19] <stefg> !futsy
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about futsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <USMarine> nightfreak synaptic
[12:19] <stefg> !gutsy
[12:19] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <f_quint> USMarine, i have i celeron d 3.4. what type of distr i need to install?
[12:19] <cs_1912> fine...
[12:19] <cs_1912> i fpund it..
[12:19] <f_quint> USMarine,  32 or 64 bit
[12:19] <USMarine> err
[12:19] <USMarine> is the cpu 64bit capable?
[12:19] <nightfreak> USMarine: i'm running a remote server without GUI
[12:19] <cs_1912> usmarine : thanks......
[12:20] <gehel_> Hello all !
[12:20] <f_quint> USMarine,  whait a min plz
[12:20] <kahrytan> USMarine, Celeron D's are usually 64bit capable
[12:20] <USMarine> nightfreak try apt-cache policy
[12:20] <kahrytan> USMarine,  well 775 socket ones.
[12:20] <gehel_> Does anyone knows of a client for Microsoft Visual SourceSafe that runs under Ubuntu ?
[12:20] <USMarine> f_quint according to kahrytan you can install a 64 bit system
[12:20] <f_quint> USMarine, http://www.intel.com/products/processor/celeron_D/index.htm
[12:21] <f_quint> as far as i now it 64 bit
[12:21] <kahrytan> f_quint, how old is the system?
[12:21] <f_quint> but
[12:21] <f_quint> kahrytan, 3 mounths
[12:21] <kahrytan> There is socket 478 celeron ds
[12:21] <USMarine> f_quint should be 64bit
[12:21] <kahrytan> then it's 64bit capable
[12:22] <f_quint> ok its because i have next problem
[12:22] <kahrytan> f_quint, but I wouldnt use 64bit os yet
[12:22] <f_quint> when i try to install some po from ubunta cd
[12:22] <USMarine> f_quint what problem?
[12:23] <USMarine> f_quint don't say you have a problem, instead tell what the problem is
[12:23] <f_quint> it say that this prog. cant be installed in my type of computer (i386)
[12:24] <f_quint> im from russia and speak english not very good
[12:24] <USMarine> --forche_arch
[12:24] <USMarine> f_quint i don't speak russian at all
[12:24] <cjae> do all key servers sync up
[12:25] <f_quint> if i try to install soft from inet its very expensive for me
[12:25] <f_quint> and for most of ruusian ubunta user to
[12:25] <murlidhar_> strange even i had the same message when i first installed it although mine is 32bit
[12:25] <nightfreak> how to get a stable, upgradeable php 5.2 on dapper?
[12:25] <nasser> Hi all
[12:25] <xover_> trying to get the latest yum
[12:26] <USMarine> murlidhar_ proly a 64bit package
[12:26] <nasser> I want the best way to install the  new ATI Driver 8.41.7  please!!!!!!!!!!
[12:26] <xover_> but ubuntu only supports up to 2.4.0
[12:26] <xover_> any idea how to get the raw source code for this distro
[12:26] <murlidhar_> USMarine: i tried to install vlc from add remove programs
[12:27] <murlidhar_> USMarine: though after restart everything was working fine
[12:27] <f_quint> have i chance to install all soft from disstr cd when install 64bit ubunta?
[12:27] <USMarine> murlidhar_ i only restart to change kernel
[12:27] <USMarine> f_quint yes
[12:27] <f_quint> ok ill try
[12:27] <USMarine> ubunto ffs
[12:27] <USMarine> ubuntu ffs
[12:28] <murlidhar_> USMarine: i dunno but it happened
[12:28] <USMarine> murlidhar_ what do you want me to do?
[12:28] <uptownben> Hi all. How can I install Sun Java on my ubuntu box, I went through ADD/REMOVE.. but it seems it's missing the AWT libraries...
[12:28] <f_quint> cool chanel, in our russian channels nobody help me. nobody want i think
[12:28] <USMarine> uptownben http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:28] <murlidhar_> USMarine: nothing i was just recalling how my pc behaved :)
[12:29] <newdude> erm i just installed compiz through synaptic, it says its installed but.... where is it? lol
[12:30] <USMarine> newdude open console, compiz --replace
[12:30] <newdude> compiz (core) - Fatal: No composite extension
[12:30] <newdude> lol
[12:30] <USMarine> add composite extension in your xorg.conf
[12:30] <newdude> kk
[12:31] <newdude> where the "0" is in xorg, what do i replace it with?
[12:31] <USMarine> ?
[12:31] <newdude> Option		"Composite"	"0"
[12:31] <kahrytan> newdude, install compiz tray
[12:31] <ikonia> newdude perhaps installing things with no idea what to do with it is a bad idea
[12:32] <newdude> i jsut want the cool effects etc
[12:32] <Hannah1> Hello, how it's good for use ( for play mp3 ) xmms ? or?
[12:32] <USMarine> Hannah1 or amarok
[12:32] <murlidhar_> use amarok
[12:32] <nasser> I want the best way to install the  new ATI Driver 8.41.7  please!!!!!!!!!!
[12:32] <newdude> do i make the "0" a "1"?
[12:33] <kahrytan> Hannah1, I like to use Audacious .. a fork of XMMS
[12:33] <Hannah1> USMarine: amorok give me a problem: NO SUPPROT MP3
[12:33] <newdude> theres no compiz tray in synaptic
[12:33] <kahrytan> Hannah1, and XMMS/Audacious are compatible with older Winamp skins
[12:33] <murlidhar_> Hannah1: amarok uses xine engine
[12:34] <kahrytan> !mp3 | Hannah1
[12:34] <ubotu> Hannah1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <ikonia> newdude: read the docs on how to install and configure it within ubuntu
[12:34] <Hannah1> i need install a library for support mp3
[12:34] <Hannah1> tnx
[12:34] <murlidhar_> Hannah1:   sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:34] <kahrytan> Hannah1, first link will help you out with codec issues
[12:34] <ikonia> murlidhar_ she's not using xine
[12:35] <murlidhar_> ikonia: then?
[12:35] <kahrytan> ikonia, she is using xine based app
[12:35] <kahrytan> y oh wait
[12:35] <kahrytan> gstreamer
[12:35] <ikonia> kahrytan but is that app linked against xine libs, or are the libs called a different name
[12:35] <kahrytan> wrong one
[12:35] <ikonia> murlidhar_ then what ?
[12:36] <kahrytan> amarok is probably using gstreamer codecs
[12:36] <murlidhar_> ikonia: then what what i said amarok is using xine codecs .
[12:36] <Hannah1> tnx all
[12:36] <ikonia> murlidhar_ but do they ?
[12:37] <murlidhar_> kahrytan: exaile uses gstreamer codecs and amarok uses xine codecs
[12:37] <cwillu> I'm trying to print a pdf, but the top line keeps getting cut off.  Can anyone help?
[12:37] <kahrytan> murlidhar_, google
[12:37] <damianl_> is it true in saying "technically" a 3ghz core 2 quad could reach speeds of 50ghz or more
[12:37] <ikonia> damianl_ ?
[12:38] <cwillu> The margins settings I can find don't seem to change anything, and simply scaling the page does make the page smaller, but it doesn't center it, so it still cuts off (more) of the first line
[12:38] <Hannah1> and... i add this in /etc/fstas
[12:38] <Hannah1> UUID=BAD47807D477C463 /media/hda5 ntfs-3g defaults,force 0 0
[12:38] <Hannah1> it's ok?
[12:39] <Hannah1> for modify in partition...
[12:39] <ikonia> that will mount a partition on /media/hda5
[12:39] <murlidhar_> Hannah1: is your amarok working fine now?
[12:39] <ikonia> is that what you want ?
[12:39] <Hannah1> yes ikonia
[12:39] <Hannah1> murlidhar_: wait i try new
[12:40] <damianl_> well u got 4 "3ghz" cores thats 12ghz... then u got hyperthreading whick makes 2 "3ghz" threads at once on each processor thats 24ghz...then you got the extra 32 bits on each core thats 48ghz
[12:40] <damianl_> well not technically but "equivalent to"
[12:40] <ikonia> damianl_ it doesn't work like that
[12:40] <damianl_> but its equivalent to yeah
[12:40] <centyx> hi, in Nautilus, how may I get a "write to disc" menu item for cdrdao .toc files like I by default have for .iso files?
[12:40] <ikonia> damianl_ also this disusion is not appropriate for this ubuntu support channel
[12:40] <cwillu> damianl_: no, it's _really_ not that simple
[12:41] <centyx> I would figure it out myself, but I'm kindof in a hurry
[12:41] <damianl_> im getting to it...ubuntu question
[12:42] <arinomi> How to install ubuntu from kubuntu? (And get the Ubuntu startup)
[12:42] <damianl_> explain what im missing here because techincally the core is only 3ghz but wouldnt it be pushing similar speeds to a (in theory there not around i know that" 50ghz processor
[12:43] <ikonia> damianl_ I've just said this is nothing to do with ubuntu and not appropriate for this channel,
[12:43] <Hannah1> murlidhar_: work!
[12:43] <vegpuff> hi, i installed ubuntu on my Hp Compaq (nc8430) and my X server refuses to start. I have console now. Please help!
[12:44] <murlidhar_> Hannah1: mp3s?
[12:44] <ikonia> vegpuff what video card is in that ?
[12:44] <Hannah1> murlidhar_: yes
[12:44] <vegpuff> ikonia, how do you check for the video card?
[12:44] <damianl_> ikonia and i have just said im getting to an ubuntu question this is the start...
[12:44] <ikonia> vegpuff: you know what card you have when you buy it
[12:44] <ikonia> damianl_ then ask it, as you keep going on about silly processor speeds
[12:45] <damianl_> thats the first part of my question
[12:45] <Frogzoo> centyx: google nautilus actions - there might be an extension for you, or something you can adapt
[12:45] <damianl_> and think about the logic its not silly at all
[12:45] <ikonia> damianl_ that is nothing to do with ubuntu so its not going to get discussion in here, but basiclly you don't understand how the speeds settings work
[12:45] <ikonia> damianl_: ask you ubuntu question
[12:45] <stanislav> hi i have porlem with ettercap need some help
[12:45] <ikonia> stanislav whats up
[12:46] <centyx> Frogzoo: thx
[12:46] <cwillu> damianl_: it might have similar throughput, assuming you're using the same number of processes as cores, on both the multi core cpu and the hypothetical 50ghz cpu.  latency will be completely different, and behaviour in a single process case is really hard to even predict when you _know_ what code you're dealing with
[12:46] <phiras> hello
[12:46] <phiras> i installed the gpart
[12:46] <Hannah1> what Yahoo messager it's good for used?
[12:47] <phiras> but i do not know how to use it
[12:47] <arinomi> ikonia_: here's an ubuntu question for ya. I am atm on Kubuntu, but I want Ubuntu. I know I can type apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but the Kubuntu startup will still be there. How can I get the entire Ubuntu?
[12:47] <vegpuff> ikonia, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
[12:47] <Hannah1> ! yahoo
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <ikonia> phiras there are docs on http:help.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <ikonia> arinomi ubuntu is the same, the differences are the desktop and desktop dependencies.
[12:47] <kane77> how do I create whole partition backup? so that I can later if the system gets broken restore from that
[12:47] <stanislav> when i run ettercap -Tq -M arp:remote //  it says that there is no host list o.0
[12:47] <USMarine> arinomi you want gnome? omg :O
[12:47] <ikonia> !ati >vegpuff
[12:48] <tarelerul1> I have think I have vnc server in my other computers and I try to check their ip wiht findsmb and when I see the one that is not the computer I am on I ssh 192.168.somethign and it don't work
[12:48] <arinomi> USMarine: Gnome is the best!
[12:48] <ikonia> kane77 make a dd image
[12:48] <vegpuff> ikonia, i didn't get that!
[12:48] <phiras> i looked at it but i need to move the space given on /dev/sda1 to /dev/sda8
[12:48] <USMarine> arinomi probably, but after kde
[12:48] <phiras> there is noway to move
[12:48] <ikonia> !ati | kane77
[12:48] <ubotu> kane77: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <ikonia> oops
[12:48] <Hannah1> I have another problem! why i can see the movie? i install MPlayer
[12:48] <ikonia> !ati | vegpuff
[12:48] <phiras> the space from a partition to another
[12:48] <ubotu> vegpuff: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <stanislav> when i run ettercap -Tq -M arp:remote //  it says that there is no host list o.0
[12:48] <arinomi> USMarine Nah :P KDE is too complex, Gnome is just beautiful
[12:48] <kane77> ikonia, and how would I restore that?
[12:49] <nightfreak> can i user dotdeb packages for dapper?
[12:49] <ikonia> kane77 boot from a live cd and dd it back
[12:49] <USMarine> arinomi better being complex than too simple when it doesn't do what i need
[12:49] <cwillu> damianl_: in short, no, it wouldn't be true to say that, except in a very limited sense
[12:49] <kane77> ikonia, hmm.. okay I'll try that.. hope it fits on 1 dvd...
[12:49] <arinomi> USMarine: It does do what I need, so it's an individual thing :)
[12:49] <ikonia> kane77 depends if its bigger than 8 gig