[21:42] <habs> bazhang, wait, how would I go about joining that subchannel?
[21:43] <Lars_G> 10.10 has 1.6.0_22 and my bank insists I need to use 1.6.0_21
[21:43] <goltoof> Flannel,   and startup disk creator won't let me do anything with the disk that i sudo mounted
[21:43] <bazhang> habs, /join #channel
[21:43] <Flannel> goltoof: Are you doing this on the command line? or in a GUI?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Flannel: My guess is that the problem is that that disk in question has no partition table, it simply has a filesystem spanning the entire drive.
[21:43] <anadon_Aeroheart> why'd my status thing for this look like a warning?
[21:43] <uLinux> Is there any way to close a manual without using ctrl+z or X button
[21:43] <uLinux> ctrl c doesnt work
[21:44] <Flannel> uLinux: "man" type of manual? 'q'
[21:44] <littlegirl> uLinux: You can type quit
[21:44] <uLinux> ye
[21:44] <uLinux> tks
[21:44] <goltoof> Flannel,   I mounted the drive with cli,  trying to make a startup disk with gui
[21:44] <littlegirl> uLinux: Or yeah, like Flannel said. (:
[21:44] <phb> need help with fast-track update
[21:44] <n0a1ias> http://imgur.com/MJgNG littlegirl
[21:44] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Looking...
[21:44] <goltoof> Flannel,   I'm fine with making the startup disk with cli if anyone knows how.... i'm sick of being stuck on this
[21:44] <Flannel> goltoof: GNOME does its own thing with USB drives, which is why they mount automagically when you plug them in.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> goltoof: I doubt that Startup Disk Creator supports not having a partition table.
[21:45] <goltoof> Flannel,  but you can see them in cl too....  now i can see in cl, have to mount manually
[21:46] <goltoof> Jordan_U,  i want to reformat the disk... startup disk creator gives me "No authority" when attempting to reformat
[21:46] <Jordan_U> goltoof: "sudo umount /dev/sdb"
[21:46] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Try putting sh and a space in front of ati............run <--- I didn't type out the whole thing. (:
[21:46] <goltoof> Jordan_U,  k..
[21:47] <arvut> what do one do when apt and all other updaters fail cause there is a lock on something dpkg related?
[21:47] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: So it would be sh ati...................run
[21:47] <defsdoor> any understand grub2 ? Im getting syntax error 28-30 at bootup.  Press enter present a correct boot menu still.  line 28-30 in grub.cfg look fine
[21:48] <progre55> hi guys. how do you create an "extended" partition while installing ubuntu? I have 4 primary windows partitions, and as that's the max number of partitions, I'm deleting one of the recovery partitions. Then everywhere I read, they say you need to create an extended partition and that it can include swap in it.. but which options is that?
[21:48] <n0a1ias> i love you littlegirl
[21:48] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: LOL. (:
[21:48] <Jordan_U> n0a1ias: To install ATI drivers use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[21:48] <goltoof> Jordan_U,   what would i do next to reformat a disk after i  unmount it... remount it.... god i want to get this done already!
[21:48] <Jordan_U> n0a1ias: Do *not* try to install them manually.
[21:48] <arvut> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:48] <n0a1ias> Jordan_U that wasn't working
[21:48] <arvut> is this solvable without a reboot?
[21:48] <littlegirl> Jordan_U: n0a1ias is having an odd error when trying to install them graphically.
[21:48] <progre55> n0a1ias: that's a bad idea..
[21:48] <Jordan_U> goltoof: Unmount it, then start Startup Disk Creator again.
[21:49] <ElNota> arvut: Yes, close Synaptic, Update-manager, or any apt-get process
[21:49] <arvut> ElNota: they are not running
[21:49] <littlegirl> Jordan_U: This is the error n0a1ias gets: http://i.imgur.com/zK0gy.png
[21:49] <ElNota> ar0nic: Check it in System-monitor
[21:50] <arvut> it all started when I forcequit aptitude as it was not responding to ^c or ^z
[21:50] <goltoof> Jordan_U,  device busy when trying to unmount
[21:50] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: But your initial problem hasn't been solved, so you'll still want to track that down and fix it. (:
[21:50] <n0a1ias> yea, googleing now
[21:50] <arvut> I was running an install run and it kinda hanged up on "Unpacking Replacement libasound2"
[21:51] <n0a1ias> but at least i have not shitty resolution littlegirl
[21:51] <guntbert> !language  | n0a1ias
[21:51] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: The best I was able to find out with Google so far is that you should pick the correct resolution, but that won't solve an issue with all text files, and you had it automatically detecting, which should have worked.
[21:51] <n0a1ias> my B, guntbert
[21:52] <arvut> the !aptfix doesnt work either
[21:52] <n0a1ias> yea, maybe i should just download all the resolutions i can?
[21:52] <Jordan_U> goltoof: Make sure there aren't any terminals open that are cd'd to a directory on the drive.
[21:52] <Jordan_U> goltoof: Or any files open from that drive.
[21:52] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: I don't think you need to. You should just be able to define them in the config file, shouldn't you? I'm not familiar with ATI, though, since I use NVIDIA. (:
[21:53] <arvut> goltoof: or any programs writing data to it ;)
[21:53] <n0a1ias> ok ill give it a shot, thanks littlegirl
[21:53] <goltoof> i don't know if there are any ubuntu forum admins here, but seiously why do you bother showing posts back from 2006?  do you realize those are almost always the first things to show up in google and how frustrating it makes googling?
[21:53] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Good luck. Setting up video is never a completely gentle thing, but it sounds like you're well on your way. (:
[21:53] <progre55> so, anybody knows how to create an "extended partition"?
[21:53] <arvut> how is that relevant to this channel?
[21:54] <n0a1ias> also, i have to ask, are you actually a little girl? littlegirl
[21:54] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: No, I'm a gull grown woman. (:
[21:54] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Full, that is. (:
[21:54] <n0a1ias> hah ok thanks
[21:54] <goltoof> because people are always telling us to google foo
[21:54] <Jordan_U> defsdoor: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo grub-script-check -v /boot/grub/grub.cfg" ?
[21:54] <littlegirl> I was a truck driver and it was my handle. I've had it for years. (:
[21:54] <rats__> try using Google/Linux.com for a more accurate search
[21:54] <Grant_EH> sup
[21:55] <guntbert> littlegirl: n0a1ias: please keep conversations in *this* channel to support
[21:55] <rats__> and up to date search
[21:55] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Now I'm gonna paste my question in here again. (:
[21:55] <goltoof> rats_  i'll try that
[21:55] <Grant_EH> ?
[21:56] <littlegirl> Hey there, does anybody know which file contains the locations listed when you right-click in Nautilus and choose Copy to or Move to? I'd like to edit that list.
[21:56] <littlegirl> guntbert perhaps you can help me with my support request.
[21:56] <arvut> is it perhaps in some nautilus config file?
[21:57] <Grant_EH> not entirely sure but think it is most likely somewhere in gconf
[21:58] <littlegirl> arvut: Probably, but which one is the question. (:
[21:58] <goltoof> Jordan_U,  unmounted, made sure device isn't busy... SU disk creator still "No authority"
[21:58] <towb> Hi. At boot my Koala can't mount the drive and asks for the root password to run fsck. I don't remember ever setting one. Now what.
[21:58] <Grant_EH> ok
[21:58] <littlegirl> Grant_EH: Will hunt around in there, thanks. (:
[21:58] <goltoof> towb,  try with no password?
[21:58] <Grant_EH> go get nautilus-actions
[21:58] <guntbert> littlegirl: sorry, no (I guess it is  somewher in gnome-config to be found)
[21:58] <towb> goltoof: no luck
[21:59] <n0a1ias> littlegirl, i still have a problom
[21:59] <littlegirl> Grant_EH: Yeah, I did, and that's a bit too complex for me. I know I can add actions, but I'd like to edit the existing ones.
[21:59] <Grant_EH> ah
[21:59] <Grant_EH> then yeah i'd take a roam around gconf-editor
[21:59] <goltoof> does anyone understand users/group and how to mount and reformat a bloody usb drive???
[21:59] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Yeah, how are you coming with that? Any pages that say others have the same thing happen to them?
[21:59] <n0a1ias> http://imgur.com/btZsP
[21:59] <Grant_EH> i'll also take a look
[22:00] <littlegirl> Grant_EH: Will do. I went into the Nautilus IRC channel but nobody's talking.
[22:00] <Grant_EH> this is my first ever IRC session ^.^
[22:00] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Did you try running aticonfig?
[22:00] <arvut> how can I find out which process thats using /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[22:01] <littlegirl> Grant_EH: Thanks! I've been hunting for a couple of days now. (:
[22:01] <n0a1ias> what? littlegirl
[22:01] <n0a1ias> no, how would i do that? littlegirl
[22:01] <goltoof> does anyone understand user/group permissions and how to mount and reformat a bloody usb drive???
[22:01] <guntbert> !repeat | goltoof
[22:02] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: The screenshot you linked mentions trying that. You open a terminal window and type aticonfig and hopefully that will run the configuration utility.
[22:02] <arvut> !anyone | goltoof
[22:02] <Guybrush88> n0a1ias, maybe with a terminal session
[22:02] <goltoof> arvut, someone then
[22:02] <arvut> ask the question instead.
[22:02] <n0a1ias> oh, sorry littlegirl
[22:03] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Not working?
[22:03] <n0a1ias> ok i did it, but nothings changed
[22:04] <guntbert> arvut: fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock, but its probably either apt-get or aptitude or synaptic or the update-manager
[22:04] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Didn't you already install it from the command line? Or is this a different file?
[22:04] <arvut> hmm, neither of those programs are running according to ps aux
[22:05] <n0a1ias> im still working on the ati drivers littlegirl
[22:05] <Grant_EH> Nope, been peeking in the Nautilus conf schemas but nothing there about context menu
[22:05] <guntbert> arvut: then try with fuser
[22:05] <arvut> what does that do?
[22:05] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Is it another file? If so, unless it has special instructions (from wherever you got it). then you should be able to run it the same way you ran the other one, by putting sh and a space in front of the complete file name. (:
[22:05] <arvut> !fuser
[22:06] <arvut> !info fuser
[22:06] <arvut> hmm
[22:06] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Using PulseAudio in ubuntu 10.10; I managed to merge a sink and a source into a virtual device. My problem now is that I do not understand the instructions at (http://tinyurl.com/3a3r2vl) to make these changes permanent in default.pa. Can someone please guide me? TIA!
[22:06] <SorayaUbuntu> Hi Guys :) i usuallu uninstall apps rununing sudo apt-get remove (app) but there isa purge command also to dont leave left overs by softwares
[22:06] <n0a1ias> no, its with the ATI driver download, also, i tried the sh
[22:06] <goltoof> ok... my last post is off the screen ... can i repeat now?
[22:06] <arvut> SorayaUbuntu: try aptitude, or apt-get autoremove
[22:07] <Grant_EH> "Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited. This will be changed in a later version."
[22:07] <goltoof> does someone understand user/group permissions and how to mount and reformat a usb drive???
[22:07] <Grant_EH> why do you need permissions?
[22:07] <arvut> now there's your actual question, ty goltoof =)
[22:07] <Grant_EH> what happens when you try mount the drive?
[22:08] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: What happens when you do the sh on that file?
[22:08] <SorayaUbuntu> how do i use purge ? to complete unistall apps with no left overs
[22:08] <goltoof> first, when i plug it in, says can't mount "No authority"
[22:08] <guntbert> arvut: fuser exists on your system, just call it like I said above
[22:08] <goltoof> same when i try to get to it in nautilus
[22:08] <arvut> guntbert: thx, will do
[22:08] <bastid_raZor> goltoof: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[22:08] <goltoof> so i mounted the drive manually in sudo, but i can't do anything i need to
[22:08] <SorayaUbuntu> autoremove delet a little  more than leftovers
[22:08] <n0a1ias> sh: Can't open aticonfig
[22:08] <n0a1ias> littlegirl
[22:08] <SorayaUbuntu> i was missing apps using autoremove
[22:09] <goltoof> bastid_raZor,   i've been working on this for a couple hours now..
[22:09] <goltoof> all i want to do is mount this drive, reformat and create a startup disk
[22:09] <goltoof> 2 hours..
[22:09] <arvut> guntbert: I get nothing from it, does that mean no program is using it?
[22:09] <SorayaUbuntu> and i have to manually delete configurations left overs in home using Ctrl-H
[22:10] <Grant_EH> can you mount it through xterm?
[22:10] <alberto> Hello
[22:10] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Ah, for aticonfig you don't type sh and a space before it. Try it without it. (:
[22:10] <arvut> alberto: hi
[22:10] <cts> alberto: Hi!
[22:10] <goltoof> Grant_EH,   what you mean xterm?  terminal, right?   i just said that i mounted it manually
[22:10] <guntbert> arvut: normally yes, but you can type fuser -m /var/lib/dpkg    to make sure
[22:10] <arvut> ah
[22:10] <bastid_raZor> goltoof: i've had issues with startup disk creator and have ran it with gksudo which seemed to fix things.. in a terminal type gksudo usb-creator-gtk
[22:10] <b0r3d0m> any good video editor for ubuntu?
[22:10] <Grant_EH> yeah i was just clarifying thats what you meant
[22:11] <b0r3d0m> or slideshow creator..
[22:11] <tensorpudding> b0r3d0m: ubuntu comes with pitivi now
[22:11] <alberto> Do you know what tda1004x timeout waiting for DSP in Ubuntu root mean?
[22:11] <nikre> hi, i wanted to install along with my windows partition, i chose the partition and set 20000 as the size of new partition in drive partitioning step of installation. now my whole drive is formatted and there is a 40gb unallocated space. Is there by any chance i can recover my files?
[22:11] <arvut> hmm
[22:11] <n0a1ias> little girl, i get a lot of text
[22:11] <n0a1ias> one sec, ill pastbinn
[22:11] <nikre> install ubuntu*
[22:11] <sjm> n0a1ias, if you can't run the ati file, put a "./" in front of it.
[22:12] <arvut> I got a weird looking output from the -m flag, will give you a pastebin in a sec cause I don't understand it
[22:12] <sjm> n0a1ias, this isn't Windows.  In Linux, the current directory isn
[22:12] <kevins> nikre: have you written anything to the drive yet?
[22:12] <kevins> nikre: probably not.
[22:12] <sjm> n0a1ias, this isn't Windows.  In Linux, the current directory isn't in the PATH
[22:12] <nikre> no i havent
[22:12] <goltoof> bastid_raZor,   finally, freedom!   thanks.....
[22:12] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Okay. (:
[22:12] <nikre> but the new drive format is ext2
[22:12] <anygivenname> how long can Ubuntu password be ?
[22:12] <bastid_raZor> goltoof: you're welcome
[22:12] <kevins> nikre: you may be able to recover something.
[22:12] <n0a1ias> .. i know, im jsut new to ubuntu sjm
[22:13] <nikre> kevins, the drive format changed, are you sure ?
[22:13] <gNewPower> Hi,  how can I start kcontrol under Ubuntu Gnome just to config the KDE applications I use (KDE system fonts in particular).  Thanks!
[22:13] <arvut> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/m2TCBqtw
[22:13] <kevins> nikre: Formatting a drive doesn't always clean wipe data e.g. write 0's over everything
[22:13] <b0r3d0m> tensorpudding, thanks.. and advance video creator?
[22:13] <adrian15b> vbwe: Can you hear at private talk?
[22:13] <anygivenname> how long can Ubuntu system password be ?
[22:13] <sjm> n0a1ias, littlegirl it looks like somehow gedit is the default program to open ".run" files.  I would guess that is the problem of trying to run it in the GUI
[22:13] <nikre> the "active partition" software couldnt fo anything
[22:13] <b0r3d0m> with effect and transition.
[22:13] <n0a1ias> http://pastebin.com/5Cs6Pz1j
[22:14] <nikre> do*
[22:14] <tensorpudding> b0r3d0m: no idea
[22:14] <nikre> i'm quite mad at this
[22:14] <kevins> nikre: what sort of files were theu
[22:14] <n0a1ias> sjm, how would you open it?
[22:14] <kevins> *they
[22:14] <extracorporeal> Hullo chaps, just looking for an alternative touchpad driver for Macbook 3,1, can anyone be of assistance?
[22:14] <littlegirl> sjm n0a1ias Is there a way around that?
[22:14] <nikre> i select a partition and set size for new partition. what happens afterwards is completely irrelevant
[22:15] <sjm> n0a1ias, I know, I was explaining one of the differences in Linux.  Why you got the "command not found" when trying to run the ati file.  It wasn't in the PATH.  You can explicitly run it by specifying the exact full or relative path to the file.
[22:15] <nikre> kevins, for example i lost my 3 months of code work
[22:15] <Nertil> what actyally is root password in ubuntu
[22:15] <Nertil> when i try su root
[22:15] <guntbert> arvut: my bad, with -m it checks the complete partition
[22:15] <anygivenname> can system password be over 20 characters ?
[22:15] <guntbert> !root | Nertil
[22:15] <kevins> nikre: did you choose to resize the windows partition?
[22:15] <kevins> nikre: i don't fully understand you
[22:15] <SuperMiguel> is there a big difference between gnome and fluxbox ? resource wise?
[22:16] <n0a1ias> sjm, i tried it in the downloads folder too
[22:16] <sjm> n0a1ias, littlegirl   to run the file in the terminal, just prepend it (if you are in the same directory) with a "./" (without the quotation marks)
[22:16] <skaja> I just installed extra components on gnome and don't know how to get them started
[22:16] <Raydiation1> hi can anyone help me with connecting to an ldap server? im really struggling getting this to work, resources are bad
[22:16] <nikre> kevins, in the drive partitioning step of ubuntu installation, i selected my "d" drive which ntfs but not the windows installed partition.
[22:16] <guntbert> arvut: if fuser /var/lib/dpkg gives nothing then there shouldn't be a process holding it -- what was the problem?
[22:16] <arvut> guntbert: yeah, the usage guide for fuser says something about mount
[22:16] <sjm> n0a1ias, littlegirl and make sure it is "executable"  (chmod +x <filename>)
[22:17] <anygivenname> can system password be over 20 characters ?
[22:17] <nikre> kevins, and set the size for new partition as 20gb
[22:17] <kevins> nikre: can you still use windows?
[22:17] <dark3lf> hello there, where can I find ping logs ? I want to know if someone ping me, I hear about ping logs so...
[22:17] <arvut> guntbert: aptitude, synaptic, apt-get & update-manager all refuse to run as there is this lock
[22:17] <nikre> kevins, in the drive partitioning step of ubuntu installation, i selected my "d" drive which ntfs but ""not the windows installed partition. " "
[22:18] <nikre> i have my c drive
[22:18] <sjm> arvut, is one of them running?
[22:18] <nikre> kevins, so yes
[22:18] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$ ./ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run
[22:18] <n0a1ias> bash: ./ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory
[22:18] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$ ^C
[22:18] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$
[22:18] <n0a1ias>  sjm
[22:18] <FloodBot3> n0a1ias: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:18] <guntbert> arvut: please pastebin the output of sudo aptitude update
[22:18] <kevins> nikre: have you tried http://www.recovermyfiles.com/?
[22:18] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: So using what sjm says, you can go into the directory that ati...........run is in (not typing out the whole command) and type ./ati..........run to run it. (:
[22:18] <anygivenname> can system password be over 20 characters ?
[22:19] <extracorporeal> nobody has any info on the trackpad driver for Macbook 3,1?
[22:19] <arvut> sjm, no. and I'm trying to find out why it's locked. I did run aptitude earlier but had to forcequit it when it didn't respond to ^c or ^z
[22:19] <n0a1ias> i jsut tried it, and got that error
[22:19] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Or, from anywhere, you can type ./PATH/ati...........run replacing PATH with the full path to the file. (:
[22:19] <nikre> kevins, that software cant find fiiles on a lost partition
[22:19] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: What error are you getting?
[22:19] <kevins> nikre: if you want to use it, stretch the ext partition back to 60gb and quick format to fat32.
[22:19] <n0a1ias> prepare to get mad floodbot3
[22:19] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$ ./ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run
[22:19] <n0a1ias> bash: ./ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run: No such file or directory
[22:19] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$ ^C
[22:19] <n0a1ias> n0a1ias@n0a1ias---Desktop:~/Downloads$
[22:19] <FloodBot3> n0a1ias: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <arvut> did an update install run, it hang up on "Unpacking Replacement Package libasound2"
[22:19] <n0a1ias> haha
[22:20] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Oooh, pastebin in future. (:
[22:20] <sjm> arvut, that's the problem.  forcing it to quit didn't allow it to release the lock.  (But I can't remember right now where the lock file is put for you to delete it manually)
[22:20] <guntbert> n0a1ias: don't ever do that again please
[22:20] <n0a1ias> oh right...
[22:20] <nikre> kevins, it was ntfs beforehand
[22:20] <nikre> why fat32?
[22:20] <kevins> nikre: it only needs to be in a windows-recognisable format.
[22:20] <arvut> sjm: that would be /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:20] <n0a1ias> is guntburt a bot designd only to get mad at me?
[22:20] <kevins> ext isnt natively supported by windows.
[22:20] <goltoof> md5sum -c MD5SUMS  ... shouldn't that give me some output?  it's not even recognized as a command
[22:21] <nikre> kevins, wouldnt that affect file tables and lose them
[22:21] <arvut> sjm: are you saying I should delete it as aptitude failed to do so?
[22:21] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: What do you see if you type cat ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run
[22:21] <sjm> arvut, then delete it manually so you can run it again.
[22:21] <sjm> arvut, yes
[22:21] <goltoof> disregard
[22:21] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: I'm beginning to suspect that ati-driver-installer-10-9-x86.x86_64.run is calling something else that doesn't exist on your system.
[22:21] <DaveCave> good evening all, quick question, Dell C610 laptop with untuntu 10.10 all updates applied, when i try to rotate the display 180 just the mouse inverts and not the desktop... soultions?
[22:21] <kevins> nikre: what does Windows think the ext partition is
[22:22] <n0a1ias> a no such file or directory error littlegirl
[22:22] <nikre> kevins, i cant see the ext2 partition
[22:22] <nikre> in windows
[22:22] <sjm> n0a1ias, is the file "executable"?  do an "ls -l ati...," and see if the "x" bits are set.
[22:22] <arvut> someone said it would cause problems if other programs were using it. so what I'm trying to do is to find out if any, and in that case, which programs that are using it
[22:22] <kevins> nikre: ok then
[22:22] <kevins> nikre: you may be able to do something if it says "RAW"
[22:23] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Can you paste the results of ls -l on that directory into a pastebin?
[22:23] <kevins> nikre: have you used the package "recover" from synaptic
[22:23] <n0a1ias> now i have a > as my propmpt
[22:23] <kevins> nikre: it has good support for ext2 drives.
[22:23] <arvut> n0a1ias: use " instead of '
[22:23] <defsdoor> Jordan_U, I dont have grub-script-check
[22:23] <nikre> there's a software called active partition recovery for windows. and it couldnt find any files
[22:24] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Pressing the Ctrl and C key at the same time should get you out of that > prompt.
[22:24] <nikre> it can detect the lost partitions
[22:24] <Baribal> Hi. I've got a diff that includes changes to several files. How do I tell patch?
[22:24] <n0a1ias> ok whats it even used for? littlegirl
[22:24] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: No idea. I'm not sure where you went. I just know that's how I get back when I go away. (:
[22:24] <SuperMiguel> is there a big difference between gnome and fluxbox ? resource wise?
[22:24] <kevins> nikre: it wont do anything to allocated space.
[22:25] <edbian> SuperMiguel, yes.  fluxbox uses much less
[22:25] <kevins> nikre: you'll need to remve the ext partition.
[22:25] <n0a1ias> http://pastebin.com/zXLYK5he
[22:25] <sjm> n0a1ias, it's a continuation of the line above.   I was told, last night, it was running a journal check. When I got here, I restarted the machine as it was frozen. When it booted, it said /dev/sda1 and 6 were clean but then it just froze on that screen. What do I do?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> defsdoor: Can you pastebin your grub.cfg?
[22:25] <n0a1ias> ok cool sjm
[22:25] <defsdoor> sure one sec
[22:25] <DaveCave> anyone know why there would be issues with laptop lcd displays not wanting to invert 180? ubuntu 10.10
[22:26] <defsdoor> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/k2rgSkQJ
[22:26] <sjm> n0a1ias, littlegirl it won't run because it's not marked as being executable.  use the command:  chmod +x ati...
[22:26] <dark3lf> hello there, where can I find ping logs ? I want to know if someone ping me, I hear about ping logs so...
[22:27] <n0a1ias> Jordan_U, i got vbwe in ubuntu with unetbootin, its up to you now
[22:27] <littlegirl> n0a1ias, sjm: I think it won't run because it doesn't exist. n0a1ias had a nine where there's a ten in the filename. Try ./ati-driver-installer-10-10-x86.x86_64.run
[22:27] <brett\home> ive somehow created a file named '-lat' without the quotes.. and rm is going me problems removing it, probably because of the hyphen.. how do i fix this?
[22:28] <n0a1ias> http://pastebin.com/jcrewW22, sml littlegirl
[22:28] <Akuma_s> Hi there
[22:28] <Akuma_s> I need some guide with an error in a hard drive...
[22:29] <sjm> n0a1ias, you need to learn about tab completion  :)
[22:29] <littlegirl> LOL
[22:29] <n0a1ias> waht? sjm
[22:29] <n0a1ias> what**
[22:29] <sjm> n0a1ias, you can type in the first few letters and then <tab> and it will complete as much as it can of the command
[22:29] <n0a1ias> also, i redid the command with a 10 instad of a 9
[22:29] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: Oh, you're going to love it. sjm is right. Tab completion is magical for making sure you don't get file names wrong. (:
[22:30] <n0a1ias> !?!
[22:30] <sjm> n0a1ias, or filename
[22:30] <n0a1ias> wow i typed all that for nothing
[22:30] <arvut> back to n0a1ias question, as I wonder about that too, what is the > prompt used for?
[22:30] <arvut> the one you get after typing '
[22:30] <francisco> Hello, I wondered how could I install php-5.2.14 on my Xubuntu. I already extracted it with the Terminal, but what should I do now
[22:30] <progre55> what is the recommended amount of swap for a 400Gb linux partition with 4G ram and core i7 proc?
[22:30] <sjm> arvut, n0a1ias, it's a continuation of the line above.  If you didn't close a quotation mark, it's waiting for the rest of the line to be typed in.
[22:30] <littlegirl> arvut: I think it happens when you've begun a process of some sort that hasn't been completed yet and you're sort of stuck waiting for something further to happen.
[22:30] <n0a1ias> http://pastebin.com/mqY1Y4U4 sjm littlegirl
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> arvut, it's waiting for you to finish your command - I think ctrl+d is the finished keycombo
[22:31] <n0a1ias> WAIT, tab works in xchat too! what elce dont i know? sjm littlegirl
[22:31] <Chaosratt> anyone know how to unmount a partition when lsof/fuser show no open files, and "umount -f" still says its busy?
[22:31] <n0a1ias> if been typing littlegirl in every time
[22:32] <sjm> n0a1ias, littlegirl now just run it with: ./ati<tab>
[22:32] <goltoof> Chaosratt,  make sure any terminals are cd'd into it or programs accessing it
[22:32] <goltoof> *aren't
[22:32] <littlegirl> n0a1ias: LOL, yes, it can be demonstrated nicely in here! Okay, it looks like you chmodded the file, so now if you type the sh and the space in front of it or the dot and the forward slash in front of it, it should run. (:
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: How long was it "frozen" and was there any disk activity?
[22:33] <n0a1ias> ok its installing now!
[22:33] <Chaosratt> goltoof: No open termals in that directory, only program I know that accesses it (samba) is completely off
[22:33] <n0a1ias> thanks guys sjl littlegirl espesilly for the tab
[22:33] <littlegirl> n0a1ias, sjm: At risk of being wrong, I'll say that in Bash, no news is good news. So when you did the chmod command and Bash didn't say anything to you, that's a pretty good indication of success. I wonder why there isn't an outright success or failure on eevery command, but hey, as long as you know that no news is good news, everything is okay. (:
[22:34] <Akuma_s> I need some guide with a hard drive issue...
[22:34] <Akuma_s> Anyone_
[22:34] <Akuma_s> ?
[22:34] <goltoof> !anyone Akuma_s
[22:34] <Akuma_s> pastebin is not working
[22:34] <sjm> n0a1ias, have fun!  glad it's working.
[22:34] <BigMao> Hi there, I have a four-monitor setup, and after I upgraded to Lucid I'm noticing a very serious problem where occasionally my mouse gets stick between two screens and starts to flash rapidly.  When this happens, I have no choice but to do a hard reboot.  Can anyone help?
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> Akuma_s, could you give some more details?
[22:34] <littlegirl> n0nam3: I hope it installs smoothly. (:
[22:34] <arvut> aptitude is working again, the lock was 0 bytes =)
[22:35] <Akuma_s> Yes ZykoticK9 "[ 8395.090625] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
[22:35] <Akuma_s> [ 8395.090633] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Sense Key : Medium Error [current] [descriptor]
[22:35] <Akuma_s> [ 8395.090643] Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):
[22:35] <Akuma_s> [ 8395.090648]         72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00
[22:35] <Akuma_s> [ 8395.090666]         03 a9 63 03
[22:35] <FloodBot3> Akuma_s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Akuma_s> [ 8395.090673] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed
[22:35] <arvut> so I deleted it and ran sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:35] <sporkboy> gpsbabel is giving me "GARMIN:Can't init /dev/ttyUSB0", and I forget how to fix it. (I know I had to do something on my last install)
[22:35] <Nertil> can i have in my ubuntu gnome and kde together and when i want i will use kde when i want will use gnome
[22:36] <Craig`> hey guys, i'm using GParted and i'm wanting to remove my xp partion, not exactly sure which one this is though, i don't want to be deleting my ubu partion.
[22:36] <Akuma_s> great
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> Nertil, yes you can have gnome + kde + OTHERS installed at the same time, and GDM/KDM will let you select which one you want at login.
[22:37] <Nertil> how to install kde?
[22:37] <Akuma_s> I need some guide with a hard drive issue... here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/526628/
[22:37] <arvut> now, why is aptitude getting stuck when Unpacking replacement libasound2?
[22:37] <jiohdi> xfce4 is good to have too
[22:37] <ZykoticK9> Nertil, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" is the easiest way
[22:37] <arvut> or is it a big lib that takes an age to update?
[22:37] <Nertil> thx
[22:38] <Lin> help ? I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on a toshiba satellite notebook, with Windows vista. when I get to the install screen for ubuntu, it dose not give me the choice to duel boot . it asks if i want to use the whole disk and wipe out windows, but no graphical partition
[22:38] <Lin> Do partition in windows first???
[22:38] <edbian> Lin It's likely that the NTFS partition has errors on it.  If so then the system refuses to resize it.  Try running chkdsk in windows first.
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> Lin, don't you see a "install alongside" or some similar wording?  that's the dual-boot option.
[22:39] <dark3lf> hello there, where can I find ping logs ? I want to know if someone ping me, I hear about ping logs so...
[22:39] <jiohdi> Lin: linux is trying to do you a favor
[22:39] <Chaosratt> Bumpage: Anyone know how to tracedown a "umount2: Device or resource busy" error when lsof and fuser say nothing is accessing that partition/mount point
[22:39] <arvut> jiohdi: l0l, how harsh of you
[22:39] <jiohdi> :)
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> dark3lf, there is no "ping log" you'd need a firewall log to see ping attempts against you (i have no idea man, my firewall is my router)
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Lin: Could you post a screenshot?
[22:39] <arvut> but I agree, it would be a favour =)
[22:39] <goltoof> just curious is encrypting the home folder a good idea?
[22:39] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Lin
[22:40] <goltoof> slows things down at all?
[22:40] <goltoof> Lin, "import foo.jpg" works too
[22:40] <ibidu>  /msg nickserv identify raraavis123
[22:40] <arvut> should I close down vlcwhen updating libasound2?
[22:40] <dark3lf> ZykoticK9: thanx, That is what I thought but was not sure. I think I can do this with iptables
[22:41] <jiohdi> goltoof: how do you encrypt a folder?
[22:41] <Jordan_U> ibidu: Change your password quickly.
[22:41] <ibidu> yeh
[22:41] <sjm> ibidu, you might want to change your password
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> dark3lf, ya, where ever iptables stores it's logs
[22:41] <goltoof> jihodi,  truecrypt is one way, but 10.10 gives you the option when installing
[22:41] <Lin> I know vista sucks but it is not my computer. I will try screen shot.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> ibidu: And next time use the chanserv window / tab.
[22:42] <FreddyStrauss> Hey guys, i'm new with ubuntu, and i have a little problem. Whenever I install anything it gives me some kinda operation failed message, although the action is done properly
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> FreddyStrauss, can you install using Applications / Ubuntu Software Center?
[22:43] <arvut> the spam you get when you have finished the installation and the cd has popped out?
[22:43] <edbian> FreddyStrauss, Well what exactly is the error?
[22:43] <FreddyStrauss> the error is the following
[22:44] <FreddyStrauss> whenever i get in the ubuntu software center and i install something it says: operation ... failed
[22:44] <Lin> Yes something is wrong with the windows disk. I will try to fix in vista and then try again
[22:44] <FreddyStrauss> but the operation was done succesfully
[22:44] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: In case nobody else has suggested anything, I looked up a couple of the text strings from your error and it doesn't look good: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Add.+Sense%3A+Unrecovered+read+error+-+auto+reallocate+failed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 and http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=EXT3-fs%3A+can%27t+read+group+descriptor+1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[22:44] <FreddyStrauss> the very same happens when i go to system and update...
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> FreddyStrauss, I'd recommend you open a terminal and try running "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo-apt-get upgrade" and see if that is successful - running those 2 commands will update your system.  If you get an error message, perhaps posting it to Pastebin would be helpful.
[22:46] <Akuma_s> I know littlegirl... and looking for options about it..
[22:46] <Akuma_s> Im looking for options about it
[22:46]  * Gnea recommends tinyurl.com to littlegirl
  the update works, and the installs also... the problem is that i get the wrong message. Instead of: installation succesfully or whatever... it gives me an "operation failed" message.
[22:47] <SorayaUbuntu> is there any diference if i run purge or just remove ?
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> FreddyStrauss, if you get "operation failed" my money is on something didn't work
[22:47] <SorayaUbuntu> whats the diference ?
[22:47] <ubunrtwgold> hi,how install gdm themes under ubuntu maverick
[22:47] <ibidu> right password changed, that's one that i can never use again, anyhoo, i wanted to find out how to set up a static ip on my ubuntu machine, so far I have tried the command "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" but not sure what to do there.
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> SorayaUbuntu, purge will remove the config files in /etc type thing
[22:47] <Akuma_s> littlegirl, This happened right after I format the partition to ext4
[22:47] <Akuma_s> So, be careful with it
[22:48] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: I'm not sure if it could be reporting the error wrong, but in the event that it's not, I'd definitely back up everything I could.
[22:48] <ubunrtwgold> hi,how install gdm themes under ubuntu maverick
[22:48] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: Ah, then it might be a conflict of some sort if you still have some ext3 stuff. Do you?
[22:48] <Eventyret> Im trying to get my keys to sign Code of conduct of ubuntu ? for launchpad but i dont got any keys in keys and encryption, any help ? ubuntu 10.10
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> ubunrtwgold, short answer is - you can't.  Best of luck man, I've only been able to use the non-supported UbuntuTweak apps to change to a couple of worse themes.
[22:48] <Akuma_s> littlegirl, Yeaph, is what I thought
[22:48] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: Now you're worrying me. I just installed Ubuntu LTS and am currently using ext4...........
[22:48] <SorayaUbuntu> ZykoticK9, thanks,i read a little about it but didnt mention that part,it did says that will not remove configurations yn home
[22:49] <ubunrtwgold> thanks
[22:49] <VirusTB> OMG, how do i recover files from my hDD when i dropped it :(
[22:49] <Eventyret> >< or maybe just read some more >< *Slap himself*
[22:49] <Eventyret> VirusTB: TestDisk
[22:49] <vbwe> why install-mbr package is not in ubuntu!
[22:49] <ubunrtwgold> how install dvb-t firmware in fedora core
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> SorayaUbuntu, that's why i used the /etc for the example, as you correctly state - it won't touch home directory stuff.
[22:49] <VirusTB> VirusTB:  Mac? for a mac?
[22:49] <Eventyret> VirusTB: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[22:50] <ubunrtwgold> my card no works sucks
[22:50] <ubunrtwgold> linuix no good for dvb cards
[22:50] <arvut> hmm, I'm havig problems moving windows across my 6 desktops (using compiz with a nice hexagonal sphere)
[22:50] <jiohdi> truecrypt seems to be saying it encrypts an entire volume, will it work for individual files?
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> ubunrtwgold, if you are using fedora you should visit their support channel(s) - this is ubuntu only support
[22:51] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  well i droped it :( and it seems that the disc doesnt eben spin anymore :S
[22:51] <arvut> it works to move them clockwise all the way around, but not counterclockwise
[22:51] <goltoof> jihodi, why bother?  tar
[22:51] <Eventyret> VirusTB: oh ><
[22:51] <Eventyret> VirusTB: internal or external drive ?
[22:51] <jiohdi> goltoof: tar?
[22:51] <ubunrtwgold> zykotick9 not i know yes or not
[22:51] <VirusTB> Eventyret: :S its not my HDD thats the worse part
[22:51] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: The more pages I read in those results, the worse it looks. Even if that drive is behaving normally right now, I would assume it's about to fail and make sure you have it backed up and a replacement ready. ):
[22:52] <Akuma_s> littlegirl, I have 3 partitions in the same HDD with...
[22:52] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: Are they backed up?
[22:52] <ubunrtwgold> help
[22:52] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  ts an external 120GB, connects via USB
[22:52] <Akuma_s> littlegirl, ext4 and the other 2 are ext3
[22:52] <Akuma_s> littlegirl, Not yet :P Im working on it
[22:52] <ubunrtwgold> dvb-t in ubuntu?
[22:52] <ubunrtwgold> w_scan suck
[22:52] <Eventyret> VirusTB: what sort of external ?
[22:52] <ubunrtwgold> not work
[22:52] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: That *could* be the cause, but it doesn't sound like it from what those pages are saying. I hope you get everything backed up!
[22:53] <ubunrtwgold> help me
[22:53] <ubunrtwgold> bad sof
[22:53] <Akuma_s> Thanks anyway for the support littlegirl
[22:53] <Akuma_s> I will try that
[22:53] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  what do u mean?... its USB,  ithink its not SSD because its size is 120GB
[22:53] <Eventyret> ubunrtwgold: ? What you need ?
[22:53] <littlegirl> Akuma_s: I wish it had been better news, but better safe than sorry. Then once you have it backed up you can try stuff and maybe rescue it. (:
[22:54] <goltoof> jihodi, or aescrypt.   or truecrypt is fine but you can encrypt with tar also
[22:54] <ubunrtwgold> work my  card!
[22:54] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  2.5 small size , like a laptop harrddrive
[22:54] <Eventyret> VirusTB: i mean is it a Seagate, Samsung, Freeagent so on.
[22:54] <ubunrtwgold> dvb terrestial
[22:54] <Eventyret> VirusTB: so its a 2.5" USB one i see =)
[22:54] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  uhmm the case says conceptronic
[22:54] <peepz> gents
[22:55] <arvut> ubunrtwgold: could you ask the actual question instead? so ppl can actually help you?
[22:55] <ubunrtwgold> work with kaffeine ,but i wanna not install kde lib
[22:55] <peepz> when applications running on my web server downloads files on its own the ownership gets set to www-data:www-data .. how can I force it to be set to admin:www-data?
[22:55] <ubunrtwgold> i need help
[22:56] <sjm> peepz, why do you need it with those permissions?
[22:56] <goltoof> "work my card!"   lol, i like that if only it were that easy
[22:56] <plob> can´t  install yahoo messanger
[22:56] <coz_> ubunrtwgold,  mm I dont know that this is possible   kaffeine is a kde applications that requires certain kde libs
[22:56] <Eventyret> VirusTB: and the disk is not spinning ? - What ubuntu you using then ?
 so how do u think i can solve this?
[22:56] <peepz> because even if its in the home folder of admin I cannot change the file permissions since its www-data:www-data ... i am not the owner of the file
[22:56] <sjm> plob, use pidgin
[22:56] <plob> can  some help me.?
[22:56] <ubunrtwgold> ok
[22:56] <ubunrtwgold> exact
[22:57] <plob> ok
[22:57] <VirusTB> Eventyret: mybad, im on a MAC
[22:57] <peepz> sjm: that was for u
[22:57] <ubunrtwgold> i need  work my card in gnome
[22:57] <FreddyStrauss> Mac sux
[22:57] <Eventyret> VirusTB: dont you got a USB pen or something oO ?
[22:57] <ubunrtwgold> w_scan not work
[22:57] <igor85>  Hi, I installed debian instead of ubuntu and encountered a problem. My screen size on laptop is 1366x768 but only i have choices are 800x600 and 1024x768. What to do? My video card is intel g45 embedded
[22:57] <coz_> ubunrtwgold,  I will tell you what I do... I install ubuntu then install the kde applications I like... I dont mind the kde libs anylonger and find it quite helpful to be able to use kde applications on ubuntu
[22:57] <littlegirl> ubunrtwgold: http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[22:57] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  well it doesnt sound like the disc is spinning, and when i plug it in, it doensmt mount automatically
[22:57] <VirusTB> Eventyret: pen??0_o
[22:57] <sjm> is it group writable?  then put yourself (admin) in the www-data group and you should be able to manage the file.
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> FreddyStrauss, i have no idea man - we don't have much to work on with just an "operation failed" message, that could be anything.  Could you pastebin the output from a terminal window?  It would help the channel
[22:57] <edbian> igor85, Ask in the Debian channel on irc.oftc.net
[22:57] <Eventyret> VirusTB: well get a USB pen and boot up a livecd ?
[22:58] <sjm> peepz, is it group writable?  then put yourself (admin) in the www-data group and you should be able to manage the file.
[22:58] <igor85> thank you
[22:58] <peepz> sjm: oh so I can put admin in the www-data group? i didnt know that was possible..how can I do that?
 i will run the process and tell u exactly what i get
[22:58] <ubunrtwgold> i tested mytv bad so bad
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> !paste | FreddyStrauss
[22:58] <littlegirl> ubunrtwgold: Sorry about that!
[22:58] <ubunrtwgold> totem not supported dvb-t cards
[22:59] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  ah ok :)
[22:59] <FreddyStrauss> thanx
[22:59] <sjm> peepz, I usually directly edit the group file (/etc/group)
[22:59] <ZykoticK9> !pastebinit > FreddyStrauss
[22:59] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  wl u be arround in 10 minutes?  i need to burn one
[22:59] <ubunrtwgold> totem  out of my ubuntu
[22:59] <arvut> is there any known problems when updating to the latest libasound2?
[22:59] <arvut> are*
[22:59] <peepz> sjm: can I do it through a command?
[23:00] <ubunrtwgold> my card is avermedia volar hd ready
[23:00] <arvut> aptitude has stopped working at the same place as it stopped before
[23:00] <Eventyret> VirusTB: yeah i will xD
[23:00] <Eventyret> VirusTB: Just PM me when your back =)
[23:00] <sjm> peepz, see this page: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[23:00] <bastid_raZor> peepz: sudo adduser username group    ... interchange the username for a user and group for an actual group
[23:01] <peepz> thanks sjm and thanks bastid_raZor !!!
[23:01] <anygivenname> if I do ssh-keygen....then a key is gonna be created......how do I use it then?
[23:01] <sjm> peepz, something like: usermod -a -G admin www-data
[23:02] <peepz> lemme try!
[23:02] <sjm> peepz, something like: usermod -a -G www-data admin
[23:02] <VirusTB> Eventyret: thank u very much :)
[23:02] <sjm> peepz, i think I switched user and group the first time
 http://imagebin.org/121994    there u can see the screenshot of what happens after installing any program
[23:03] <Eventyret> VirusTB: your welcome =)
[23:03] <RussR> I need help! I accidently formatted a windows extternal HD with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover the data or un-format the drive?
[23:03] <HaPK_PerCar> I'm having problems with sound on my laptop... sound come right on the speakers, but nothing for headphones, even if I plug them in! I installed the alsa drivers backports to solve this, but now it won't work! I recently made an update and installed my ethernet card driver...
[23:03] <ubunrtwgold> vrus tb garbage
[23:03] <littlegirl> ubunrtwgold: How about this one: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/59-ubuntu-xbmc
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> FreddyStrauss, my recommendation is close USC open a terminal and try running "sudo apt-get -f install" to try and fix and broken/failed installation attempts.
[23:04] <ubunrtwgold> thanks littlegirl
[23:04] <arvut> why is aptitude not doing anything after "Unpacking replacement libasound2 ..."?
 but the installation WORKS, it is just that it tells me it didnt, but it always works...
[23:04] <FreddyStrauss> so there is a bug
[23:04] <littlegirl> ubunrtwgold: I'm not sure it will work, but it's one of the pages I found when I put the name of your card in. (:
[23:04] <arvut> it seems to have stopped working
[23:05] <ubunrtwgold> ok
[23:05] <ubunrtwgold> i looking it
[23:05] <plob> sjm> thank you
[23:06] <peepz> sjm: I ran your command..I still cant set the permissions :*
[23:06] <peepz> :(
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> peepz, did you log out and back in (required for group changes)
[23:07] <peepz> oh let me try
[23:07] <peepz> actually i set that being logged on as root
[23:07] <peepz> and after that I logged in as admin
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> peepz, from a terminal you can check with the "groups" command
[23:07] <RussR>  I need help! I accidently formatted a windows external HD with ubuntu. Is there any way to recover the data or un-format the drive?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> RussR: What did you do precisely?
[23:08] <peepz> oh..I am in the www-data group!
[23:08] <HaPK_PerCar> please people, I have problems with sound... it won't come out through my headphones
[23:08] <ubunrtwgold> russr super boot grub is solution
[23:08] <peepz> hold on..www-data does not have permissions to change file permission right? it shouldt have?
[23:09] <RussR> Jordan, I was installing ubuntu on what I thought was a new HD but unfortunately I had an ext plugged in and it installed there instead
[23:09] <peepz> sjm im confused..i just want to have the ability to change the permissions on my home folder files that are of owner www-data:www-data
[23:10] <Jordan_U> RussR: There is no way to "unformat" then. You may be able to recover some files with photorec.
[23:10] <ubunrtwgold> i was intalling  3 OS in hd thanks a supergrubdisk i saved
[23:10] <RussR> I did that, however it renamed all the files
[23:10] <captkirk> peepz: only the owner of a file can change the permissions
[23:11] <peepz> yes..so back to my initial qustion:)
[23:11] <RussR> is there a way torecover data and keep the original file names?
[23:11] <peepz> captkirk: when applications running on my web server downloads files on its own the ownership gets set to www-data:www-data .. how can I force it to be set to admin:www-data?
[23:11] <ubunrtwgold> normally mater boot  firs partition needs windows :)
[23:11] <ubunrtwgold> with reload
[23:11] <Jordan_U> RussR: No.
[23:11] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  an live cd, hw do i instal an RC client
[23:12] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  IRC client??   sudo apt=get xchat ??
[23:12] <ubunrtwgold> virus tb,where are you from?
[23:12] <ubunrtwgold> :)
[23:12] <SkiingPenguins> how can i install ubuntu to a usb drive and partition it so that i have some space that windows can access?
[23:12] <RussR> I did get EnCase Forensic and it would do it, but now being a linux drive it does not see the drive
[23:13] <starn> can anyone help me with this i'm using mutt http://pastebin.com/iFpPALBH
[23:13] <captkirk> peepz: I don't know if you can, since ownership can only be changed root
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> SkiingPenguins, carefully ;) - FYI the last step of install has an "advanced" (or similar wording) that allows you to install grub onto the USB instead of the first HD (may be important!)  Best of luck.
[23:13] <Jordan_U> SkiingPenguins: How big is the drive, and do you plan to use it as a full install (installing new applications, keeping up to date, etc) or just as a basic live system?
[23:14] <VirusTB> how do i install an IRC client from terminal on a live CD?
[23:14] <arvut> how long should it take to install libasound2?
[23:14] <Flannel> VirusTB: which IRC client?
[23:14] <arvut> Hello Flannel, mind helping me out?
[23:14] <Flannel> VirusTB: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat
[23:14] <RussR> 250gb after the data is off I will wipe and reformat
[23:14] <SkiingPenguins> Jordan_U: it is an 8gb, and i would like a full install
[23:15] <peepz> then how do web servers work? how can they download plugins through wordpress and then login through ftp and change permissions..it has to be possible
[23:15] <Eventyret> VirusTB: or use irssi xD
[23:15] <captkirk> peepz: Not unless y ou have something running as root which does the chown'ing
[23:15] <ubunrtwgold> russr you are fuck
[23:15] <peepz> how can I give a user sudo priviligies to files in his own home folder?
[23:15] <Eventyret> VirusTB: sudo apt-get install irssi
[23:15] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  im used to xchat
[23:15] <Seeker`> !language | ubunrtwgold
[23:15] <n0nam3> empathy does't work with hotmail account for me , any help plz
[23:16] <arvut> I started aptitude, and started installing the latest security updates. however, it seems to stop after "Unpacking replacement libasound2". nothing more happens
[23:16] <VirusTB> Eventyret: ok burning ISO of live cd now :) SO
[23:17] <ubunrtwgold> virustb you aren't inteligent
[23:17] <starn> can anyone help me with this? i'm using mutt http://pastebin.com/iFpPALBH
[23:17] <Jordan_U> SkiingPenguins: Then I would choose manual partitioning from the installer menu and make an ext3 '/' partition (4 GB) and another 4 GB fat32 partition for data that windows needs to be able to access easily.
[23:17] <VirusTB> ubunrtwgold:  thats what she said
[23:17] <SkiingPenguins> Jordan_U: and what about the bootloader, where would i put that?
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> ubunrtwgold: you can not spell either.
[23:17] <Eventyret> VirusTB: then you use that
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> ubunrtwgold, don't insult people!  and don't swear.
[23:18] <ubunrtwgold> ?
[23:18] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  yep :)
[23:18] <IdleOne> !guidelines | ubunrtwgold
[23:18] <VirusTB> ZykoticK9:  dont bother wit him/her/it
[23:19] <VirusTB> ubunrtwgold:  please stop Steve, we know who you are
[23:19] <ubunrtwgold> virustb i am scanning ur system
[23:19] <IdleOne> VirusTB: Please don't feed
[23:19] <ubunrtwgold> talk..talk
[23:19] <Seeker`> VirusTB: can you get back on-topic please?
[23:19] <VirusTB> Seeker`:  sorry, IdleOne
[23:19] <RogueShadow> I've noticed video playback especially fullscreen is quite slow, can t his be fixed? I have installed the restricted 3d drivers for my nvidia card.
[23:20] <blakkheim> RogueShadow: what are you using to play the vide
[23:20] <blakkheim> video*
[23:20] <starn> can anyone help me with this? i'm using mutt http://pastebin.com/iFpPALBH anyone??????
[23:20] <RogueShadow> blakkheim, Hulu mostly.
[23:20] <ZykoticK9> RogueShadow, are you playing back HD vids or just avi type stuff?  or are you talking youtube?
[23:20] <blakkheim> RogueShadow: that's adobe flash then, nothing can be done about it
[23:20] <orbit> someone have a clue?  I have Ubuntu 10.0.4 and every time i reboot my computer the visual effects are gone, someone know a way to fix this? i got a Nvidia 9600MX card.
[23:20] <blakkheim> RogueShadow: it doesn't even use your gpu
[23:21] <BlueMatt> anyone know why, despite the fact that ffmpeg (and by extension gstreamer) supports Apple Lossless, Rhythmbox will not convert audio to it to sync with an ipod, and just says no encoders available?
[23:21] <Altreus> When I try to make a pen drive thingummer from netbook remix it just barfs with "Failed to install boot loader". I tried running it as root from the terminal too, no joy, no terminal output either
[23:21] <RogueShadow> blakkheim, hmm. ok.  That explains a lot.
[23:21] <ashish> hi, I am looking for white hat hackers
[23:21] <zerre_op> hi!
[23:21] <Seeker`> ashish: why?
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> orbit, but it works once you start it?  if so, you might want to try installing fusion-icon and see if the problem goes away.  good luck.
[23:21] <Guest57093> i wish to learn Ethical hacking and information assurance
[23:22] <blakkheim> BlueMatt: licensing issues most likely
[23:22] <koolio> ashish, who?
[23:22] <blakkheim> !ot | Guest57093
[23:22] <Seeker`> Guest57093: this isn't the place.
[23:22] <Guest57093> can u redirect me to any channel .. I am new here
[23:22] <arvut> start using scroogle, Guest57093. and please choose a non-guest nick ;)
[23:22] <captkirk> peepz: You can by moidfying the sudoers, but I don't know that would be a good way to do it since it would be veryopen to abuse
[23:22] <BlueMatt> blakkheim: ffmpeg's implementation is not licensed and is installed by default with gstreamer-ffmpeg
[23:22] <Guest57093> sure
[23:22] <orbit> ZykoticK9, all ready  done, dont work for me :(
[23:22] <Guest57093> yeah
[23:22] <GeekMan> whats a good program to record a video on gnome. i want to record a video of the game nibbles to post an example of a bug
[23:22] <zerre_op> where can i find a official ppa to install peazip for ubuntu 10.1 ? i always update the peazip manually :( i want to update automatically with my update manager. can someone help me please ?
[23:23] <peepz> then how to web servers do it
[23:23] <blakkheim> BlueMatt: dunno then. i use XLD on mac os x to convert stuff to ALAC
[23:23] <peepz> goaddy etc..how do they solve it
[23:23] <orbit> ZykoticK9, and yes it works fine when i start it
[23:23] <ubunrtwgold> virustb ur account in facebook is very easy
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> orbit, sorry don't know then.  i did have a similar issue once, and fusion-icon seem to magically fix it?  good luck.
[23:23] <captkirk> peepz: What do you mean?
[23:23] <Eventyret> VirusTB: hows it going ?
[23:23] <ubunrtwgold> :)
[23:23] <zerre_op> where can i find a official ppa to install peazip for ubuntu 10.1 ? i always update the peazip manually :( i want to update automatically with my update manager. can someone help me please ?
[23:23] <peepz> nm
[23:24] <VirusTB> Eventyret: damn this DVD drive, one CD just became a coaster
[23:24] <blakkheim> !repeat | zerre_op
[23:24] <GeekMan> istanbul screen recorder doesnt work so i wish to find a decent screen recorder
[23:24] <arvut> ashishc: ty, now go to https://ssl.scroogle.org and start scroogling for answers. This isn't the place to discuss ethical hacking or any other kind of offtopic chatter ;)
[23:24] <VirusTB> Eventyret: re burning
[23:24] <histo> GeekMan: gtkrecordmydesktop
[23:25] <histo> GeekMan: gtk-recordmydesktop
[23:25] <GeekMan> is that a program (i asume it is)
[23:25] <histo> GeekMan: affirm
[23:25] <orbit> ZykoticK9, ok, ill think i will try and se if i can find some forums that i havet found yet. But thanks for the help m8.
[23:25] <VirusTB>  IdleOne thanks for kickin him
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> zerre_op, there are no "official" PPAs - there whole point is to be unofficial.  The https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas doesn't seem to include any with peazip :(  Good luck man.
[23:26] <GeekMan> yeah but it says it a front end
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> orbit, good luck man
[23:26] <GeekMan> that means you need the program right
[23:26] <GeekMan>  PFT IM RETARTED LMAO
[23:26] <Eventyret> VirusTB: burn it on lower speed :P
[23:26] <zerre_op> ZykoticK9: ok. thank you!
[23:27] <histo> GeekMan: if you install the package it's availible in the repos and it works as opposed to istanbul
[23:27] <IdleOne> GeekMan: installing that package will also install the dependencies for it.
[23:27] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  doing that ;P was to impatient so i selectedhighest speed
[23:28] <zerre_op> ZykoticK9: can you tell me which will work more stable : qtk2 or qt version of peazip ?
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> zerre_op, i have no idea - never even heard of peazip
[23:28] <Eventyret> VirusTB: haha have patients :P
[23:28] <Seeker`> Eventyret: patience :)
[23:28] <GeekMan> yeah i don't know what i was thinking i saw it earlier and was like oh front-end means i need the program so i searched record my desktop and got nothing so i came here. idiot moment
[23:28] <VirusTB> Eventyret: tring t, but i dont know how long u will be arround to help me
[23:28] <zerre_op> ZykoticK9: ok. thnks..
[23:29] <GeekMan> thanks
[23:29] <sporkboy> gpsbabel is giving me "GARMIN:Can't init /dev/ttyUSB0", any ideas?
[23:29] <Eventyret> Seeker`: exuse my spelling <3
[23:30] <imanc> segfault in libflashplayer.so - any ideas how to fix this?
[23:30] <Eventyret> VirusTB: oh i be a few hours i presume, since i am not going to pickup my fiance yet, she is out on town drinking ><
[23:31] <surdle> Hey guys
[23:31] <arvut> hi
[23:32] <xeno> Cannot ^C out of Ping.  Someone please bug this!
[23:32] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  that must suck :(, i appreciate your help thus far  :) (but please dont leave me here )
[23:32] <arvut> gah!! why is aptitude not working?
[23:32] <surdle> Im using ciscoannyconnecto to connect to an ssl vpn. The client says I supposedly have a new ip, but when I go to ipchicken.com it shows my old ip. Does this mean the vpn isnt working or is it normal to have your same public ip,? thanks
[23:32] <arvut> its been more or less idle for an hour now
[23:33] <Eventyret> VirusTB: i wont :) - Besides you got plenty of others that mgiht be of any assistance :P
[23:33] <arvut> xeno: and I cannot ^C out of aptitude
[23:34] <IdleOne> arvut: try a sudo apt-get -f install
[23:34] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  thats true. but i got your full attention already .... cd @ 58% burnt
[23:34] <IdleOne> arvut: after killing aptitude that is.
[23:34] <Eventyret> VirusTB: fine il go read some news xD Lemme know when its ready then =D
[23:34] <arvut> IdleOne: how would I do that when aptitude is running but not responding to ^C?
[23:34] <arvut> right
[23:34] <myk_robinson> Is there a way to get banshee to refresh the video library?
[23:35] <arvut> heard ^z is another way to close it, but that doesn't work either
[23:35] <arvut> I could forcequit it like I did earlier and delete the lock
[23:36] <IdleOne> arvut: there ya go
[23:36] <surdle> Im using ciscoannyconnecto to connect to an ssl vpn. The client says I supposedly have a new ip, but when I go to ipchicken.com it shows my old ip. Does this mean the vpn isnt working or is it normal to have your same public ip,? thanks
[23:36] <arvut> I don't see it as a valid solution tho, I wanna know why it's acting this way
[23:36] <Jordan_U> surdle: That means the VPN is not being used.
[23:36] <arvut> !repeat | surdle
[23:36] <IdleOne> arvut: don't know why but I guess there is a package it is trying to install and it is stuck somewhere
[23:37] <arvut> might be, is there a log I can view with error details?
[23:37] <arvut> I need more tea
[23:38] <IdleOne> /var/log/apt
[23:38] <arvut> thx
[23:38] <arvut> will forcequit now
[23:38] <xim_> are their any keyloggers for ubuntu?
[23:38] <arvut> how is that supportrelated?
[23:39] <edbian> xim_, Of course.
[23:39] <IsleVegan> i am having some kind of password disparity on a new install of ubuntu server 10.10
[23:39] <IsleVegan> i installed ubuntu-desktop on top
[23:39] <IsleVegan> but synaptic doesn't like the password i used
[23:40] <edbian> xim_, Can they be installed on your system without your knowledge (almost definitely not)
[23:40] <IsleVegan> even though it works in other areas
[23:40] <qpop> Hi all
[23:40] <Some_Person> IsleVegan: Synaptic doesn't use a password. Do you mean that sudo isn't accepting your password?
[23:40] <plainas> ok, so i have this 6 year old laptop on which i want to install ubuntu server edition or maybe Lubuntu, problem is, once i pick the language and choose 'install' it loads the graphical installer.. which for some reason does not get properly diplayed in the screen i am using
[23:40] <xim_> edbian, i am looking for one to intentionally install do you know of a good one, with legit install/removability (ie not an infection)
[23:41] <plainas> i got told in this very irc chanel that ubuntu server edition comes with a text base installer
[23:41] <plainas> *based
[23:41] <Jordan_U> plainas: How much RAM do you have?
[23:41] <edbian> xim_, I do not.  Search synaptic for "keylogger"
[23:41] <plainas> 512
[23:41] <edbian> xim_, A keylogger is just a keyboard driver that also records the keystrokes.
[23:41] <Some_Person> plainas: The ubuntu alternate CD also uses a text-based installer, but it installs the normal desktop version
[23:41] <maco> xim_: if you want a definitely-removable keylogger, why not get a hardware one? just unplug it when you're done
[23:42] <xim_> edbian, yeah tried that, no dice.  i am a writer and this morning i lost text in a crashed browser window for the very last time
[23:42] <xim_> maco, i have seen those, would love one but they are pricey
[23:42] <IdleOne> plainas: the server cd does use a text install, why you are getting a graphical install I don't know
[23:42] <edbian> xim_, Ha, very clever idea.
[23:42] <plainas> ok... the question is: server edition, is it possible to install in text mode?
[23:42] <plainas> (windows xp runs perfectly on this computer)
[23:43] <arvut> IdleOne: no errors in the log actually, just the same rubbish I got in the terminal
[23:43] <Eventyret> VirusTB: 99% and failure oO ?
[23:43] <IdleOne> arvut: try sudo apt-get -f install   see what happens
[23:43] <IsleVegan> when i try to go into synaptic from the System menu, it does not like my password. when i go from the command line sudo synaptic, it accepts the password
[23:43] <Jordan_U> plainas: If you are seeing a graphical installer then you are not booting from the server CD.
[23:43] <maco> xim_: i would do the writing in a normal application instead of browser and save often
[23:43] <Some_Person> plainas: Are you sure you're using the server install CD? It shouldn't have a graphical installer
[23:43] <maco> xim_: if it was a blog thing, i like blogilo for that
[23:44] <BlueMatt> is there a way to change the encoding quality of rhythmbox when it encodes for an ipod from terrible sounding 113k/s mp3 to something better say 320?
[23:44] <edbian> xim_, What you need is a more stable distro IMHO.
[23:44] <Some_Person> plainas: It shouldn't have a GUI at all
[23:44] <Gunni> i have a machine running ubuntu server 10.04 should i /can i upgrade it to 10.10?
[23:44] <IdleOne> Gunni: do you need to?
[23:44] <arvut> IdleOne: seems to get stuck at the same line :( I'm doomed!!
[23:44] <sosaited> I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit on Dell Inspiron via USB. I made the USB with Unetboot in via alternate ISo. After language selection it gives a cd error. I tried editing the boot command to include cdrom-detect/try-usb=true but it didnt work
[23:44] <Gunni> need, not neccecarely but isnt the newest better?
[23:44] <IdleOne> arvut: what is it you are trying to install in the first place?
[23:44] <sxdemon> hey, there is a problem when I try to use ubuntu 10.04 32bit live CD.....pc screen goes black after loading the UI, no more signal and cpu fans goes on heavy duty. It always do that. Any idea?
[23:44] <plainas> mmmm i'm not sure where the border is set... but for example... the language selection... how does it looks like in server edition?
[23:45] <arvut> just updates
[23:45] <edbian> Gunni, Not always.  The older versions are supported for a while (which basically means they get security patches)  If anything older is more stable and more (or equally) secure.
[23:45] <IdleOne> Gunni: not always. 10.04 server will be supported another 3.5 years or so.
[23:45] <plainas> also, now that i think about it... it does say have all the options of server instalations on the menu
[23:45] <VirusTB> Eventyret: restartting
[23:45] <Gunni> oh well i'll keep this one then
[23:45] <plainas> then when i choose for example "instal ubuntu server edition" the screen gets all messed up and i can't see anything
[23:46] <Eventyret> VirusTB: Alright =)
[23:46] <arvut> it gets stuck at "Unpacking replacement libasound2 ..." everytime I try to update (there is obviously some new update to this lib
[23:46] <xim_> obviously typing in a more stable program is better, but i type in all kinds of programs for different things, not just one.  also this particular time it wasnt actually a crash i closed the wrong browser tab, but a keylogger like i used to be l337 with when i was 10 would be a quick solution to a keyboard buffer
[23:46] <IdleOne> Gunni: you can upgrade if you want to but I don't see a reason to, 10.04 still has a lot of life left to it
[23:46] <Gunni> yeah but i am just configuring it before going live, thought about upgrading before it did
[23:47] <wessel> I would like to reinstall my eclipse, how do I make sure all my settings are removed?
[23:47] <w1n5ton> How would I access my computer remotely from another network?
[23:47] <miguel000> When I run gdmsetup everything is grayed out. What can I do about that?
[23:47] <IdleOne> Gunni: stick to 10.04.
[23:47] <tonsofpcs> w1n5ton: reformat would make sure...
[23:47] <arvut> w1n5ton: vnc & ssh
[23:47] <Gunni> k will do
[23:47] <tonsofpcs> err, wessel ^^
[23:47] <tonsofpcs> w1n5ton: that wasn't for you, sorry
[23:47] <w1n5ton> vnc?
[23:47] <edbian> w1n5ton, using ssh and port-forwarding
[23:47] <arvut> !info vnc
[23:47] <tonsofpcs> w1n5ton: VNC + ssh with port forwarding is :)
[23:47] <tonsofpcs> !info x11vnc
[23:47] <sxdemon> wow. awesome, getting the same great support from the official website.
[23:48] <edbian> w1n5ton, vnc is logging in remotely with graphics.  ssh is a shell.
[23:48] <fierygod> I cannot seem to get my DVD-ROM drive to recognize any type of disk, but it shows up in $ sudo lshw -c disk?  Any clues on how to fix this?
[23:48] <wessel> tonsofpcs, I never reinstalled something before on linux
[23:48] <tonsofpcs> wessel: me neither
[23:48] <wessel> I have only used sudo apt get install my file
[23:48] <IdleOne> arvut: try purging libasound2 then reinstalling it
[23:48] <tonsofpcs> wessel: you could dpkg reconfigure [blah]
[23:49] <tonsofpcs> vnc is not secure, ssh is.  You make VNC secure by creating a secure shell (ssh) tunnel, then run the vnc over it, rather than exposing vnc to the outside world
[23:49] <Tylerjd> fireygod: is the DVD getting mounted?
[23:49] <wessel> well my eclipse is behaving weird, I would like to make a clean install, so I'm sure I can rule out any settings that I changed
[23:49] <arvut> IdleOne: maybe I should just deselect that package and see if it updates the rest (15 other updates that is)
[23:49] <IdleOne> arvut: yup, try that
[23:49] <wessel> ah so the the command to reinstall is called reconfigure! :D
[23:49] <fierygod> Tylerjd:  no it will not mount, either with or without a disk
[23:50] <tonsofpcs> wessel: apt-get remove [blah], apt-get clean, apt-get install [blah]  iirc, but that doesn't guarantee settings reset.  dpkg reconfigure resets settings (if the package was made right)
[23:50] <Bilz> hello, i seem to have broken the touchpad mouse on my laptop. i turned it off and now it won't turn back on again, even after a restart. ideas? ubuntu 10.04
[23:50] <tonsofpcs> you could also read the man page of [blah] to figrue out how to reset settings
[23:50] <Eventyret> VirusTB: just reloigg irc 1 sec
[23:50] <Tylerjd> fierygod: It may be that /dev/cdrom may not be listed in your fstab file, how comfortable are you in using the terminal?
[23:51] <Eventyret> There =D
[23:51] <w1n5ton> how do I set up vnc and ssh?
[23:51] <sosaited> Someone please tell how to fix the "Can't read from Cd" error when installing 10.10 from USB
[23:51] <VirusTB> evelyette: ok\
[23:51] <arvut> hmm, now aptitude can't get a lock on /var/lock/aptitude
[23:51] <fierygod> Over the last week and a half since installing 10.04 I have been using the terminal almost nonstop lol
[23:51] <IdleOne> arvut: rm the lock file
[23:51] <edbian> arvut, You have another instance of the package manager running
[23:51] <edbian> fierygod, I am not on my machine without having a terminal open
[23:51] <IdleOne> or what edbian said
[23:52] <edbian> w1n5ton, First install ssh and get that working.  Then worry about vnc.
[23:52] <edbian> w1n5ton, sudo apt-get install openssh-server  (on the server)
[23:52] <sharkbyte> hello
[23:52] <arvut> nope, killed it and removed the lock at /var/lib/dpkg/lock as I did earlier
[23:52] <edbian> w1n5ton, Additionally, set up ssh on your LAN first, the worry about connecting over the internet.
[23:52] <wessel> I'm not sure my dpkg has the reconfigure option
[23:52] <GT23> alguem do Brasil??
[23:52] <wessel> it has --configure
[23:52] <jrib> !br | GT23
[23:52] <Dropje^> is there a way to highlight your nick in irssi?
[23:53] <arvut> aptitude is a nice enemy tonite =P
[23:53] <edbian> arvut, Don't manually remove the lock unless all else fails.  I would restart before I manually removed the lock.
[23:53] <fierygod> Tylerjd:  I have /etc/fstab open right now
[23:53] <arvut> oh
[23:53] <jrib> Dropje^: it does that by default, no?
[23:53] <w1n5ton> aight
[23:53] <w1n5ton> got openssh
[23:53] <Tylerjd> fireygod: ok, then can you tell me if you see a line containing /dev/cdrom (and that may contain a number)
[23:53] <arvut> I've removed it 3 times now
[23:53] <Dropje^> jrib ah yes your name is yellow ^^ cheers
[23:53] <Bilz> hello, i seem to have broken the touchpad mouse on my laptop. i turned it off and now it won't turn back on again, even after a restart. ideas? ubuntu 10.04
[23:53] <edbian> w1n5ton, k, go to a client.  and run ssh user@server
[23:53] <IdleOne> edbian: restart? really?
[23:53] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7 ~ $ sudo dpkg --configure eclipse
[23:53] <wessel> dpkg: error processing eclipse (--configure):
[23:53] <edbian> w1n5ton, Does that makes sense or should I elaboarte
[23:53] <Eventyret> VirusTB: hows it going ? =D
[23:53] <jrib> Dropje^: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup
[23:54] <w1n5ton> I know what it means\
[23:54] <VirusTB> Eventyret:  ok gonnt insert cd now and rebot brb
[23:54] <edbian> IdleOne, I'd rather make sure some other package manager wasn't running.  Restarting would assure that.
[23:54] <wessel> tonsofpcs, I'm pretty sure the eclipse package was made right
[23:54] <IdleOne> edbian: I suppose so. :)
[23:54] <edbian> IdleOne, I have cleared the lock file before.  I didn't like doing it though.  I feel like I'm lying to the computer (it never lies to me!)
[23:54] <edbian> IdleOne, yeah
[23:54] <histo> Dropje^: yeah it should hilight nick when mentioned
[23:54] <Raydiation1> i have problems when connecting to a smb share thats connected to an ldap server i get pdb_get_group_sid: Failed to find Unix account for Posselt_Bernhard
[23:54] <wessel> tonsofpcs, or are you referring to the dpkg package?
[23:55] <Raydiation1> thats the full error log paste http://paste.pocoo.org/show/286702/
[23:55] <tonsofpcs> wessel: no, eclipse
[23:55] <tonsofpcs> just dpkg-reconfigure eclipse
[23:55] <arvut> so a restart is finally in order then, see you soon =)
[23:55] <histo> djuggler: /set hilight_nick_matches
[23:55] <Tylerjd> fierygod: ok, then can you tell me if you see a line containing /dev/cdrom (and that may contain a number) (sorry misspelled your username the first time)
[23:55] <fierygod> Tylerjd:  Negative.  The only things listed in fstab are: dev/sda6 (ext4), dev/sda7 (swap), dev/sda1 (ntfs), and dev/sda5 (ntfs)
[23:55] <Dropje^> histo: yeah i can see that, makes following different channels easier :) started a new job and need to learn a lot! more about linux. good ways to start i guess are communities thats why i hopped in here :)
[23:55] <Muscovy> In 10.10, is there a way to make Empathy log?
[23:55] <Core_UK> How do I move my PGP key from one ubuntu install to another?
[23:55] <xim_> there is supposed to be a "linux keylogger" package called "lkl" in the universe repos, but I can't find it.  Did they take it out?
[23:55] <Tylerjd> ok, well that is your problem, let me tell you how to fix it
[23:56] <arvut> I give up in trying to solve the mysterious update problems
[23:56] <fierygod> lol
[23:56] <fierygod> I have neither of my drives listed in there
[23:56] <surdle> Hey guys I have the 10.0.4 ubuntu iso and i want to put it on an sd card to boot it from a netbook. However I have to do create teh bootable sd card from a macbook pro, any idea how? thanks
[23:56] <w1n5ton> dont
[23:56] <Muscovy> Core_UK: There's a few ways. Easiest is to copy /home/you/.gnupg to the new install (warning, will remove keys on the new account)
[23:57] <w1n5ton> I've had 2 netbooks and I never could get either to boot from an SD
[23:57] <fierygod> Tylerjd:  I have a CD-RW, and a DVD-ROM.  I have tried looking up how to gain the UUIDs so I can "try" to add them into fstab, but as I am new to the game, I have not been able to figure this one out.
[23:58] <histo> surdle: do you have an option to boot from sd on yoru netbook?
[23:58] <surdle> histo:  yes
[23:58] <Eventyret> xD
[23:58] <histo> !usb | surdle
[23:59] <Dropje^> surdle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1513386
[23:59] <w1n5ton> so I just go ssh <user@domain> ?
[23:59] <Eventyret> w1n5ton: you meaning to do ssh into a server with ssh ?
[23:59] <Eventyret> w1n5ton: im using ssh adress -l username


[05:25] <philipballew> yo everyone. when i try to install 11.04 on my desktop the screen is really blury when the gui starts to load.
[06:46] <philipballew> how do i move a file from my computer to my server via ssh
[06:48] <Unit193> !scp
[06:48] <ubot2`> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[06:49] <geirha> nautilus can also connect to an ssh server (with sftp enabled), allowing you to drag and drop files.
[06:50] <Unit193> Gigolo should support sshfs too
[06:57] <philipballew> id probably just do it from the terminal
[07:15] <ezakimak> where do I edit the kernel args for grub2? (10.0.4)
[08:01] <ezakimak> how do i prevent initrd from messing w/raid? (i want raid=noautodetect honored)
[10:16] <neil> Hello. I have been using Ubuntu for about 6 months now. I have worked out how to install all the programs I need. The only exception is that I have not yet managed to find a good optical character recognition program. So I still have to use Windows if I need to scan a document with Abbyy Fine Reader. Apart from that I have all my hardware working and have all the programs I need with Ubuntu 11:04. So as an end user I am now OK
[10:16] <neil>  with Ubuntu. I would now like to start learning more advanced things. For example I would like to learn programming skills, but I do not really know where to start with this.
[10:17] <bioterror> xsane is not good enough scanning program?
[10:20] <neil> I tried Xsane when I had to edit some college work for a friend. I am British and living in Britain, my friend is Lithuanian and makes many mistakes with English. Xsane was hopeless, but abby fine reader was almost 100% accurate with producing the exact text my friend had printed out on the paper I scanned.
[10:21] <neil> I am forgetting my manners. Thanks for the suggestion, bioterror.
[10:23] <neil> Maybe Xsane might be good with scanned text that is clear and all the spelling is correct, but it does not work well with all the spelling mistakes my Lithuanian friend made.
[10:25] <bioterror> hmmm
[10:25] <bioterror> you're scanning documents and looking for miss spellings? :o
[10:25] <bioterror> I dunno about those ;)
[10:25] <neil> I will try Xsane with text from a news paper or book and see what results I get. That will be my normal use in future. All my foreign friends know that in future they must keep electronic copies aand not give me printed text for correction.
[10:29] <neil> Another advantage of Abbyy fine Reader is that it creates good PDF copies with pictures and diagrams. I have never tried this with Xsane. Where I live is such a small flat, if I want to add significantly to my book collection and cannot buy the books I need in electronic format then I must scan real books into my computer, copy to my ebook reader and then get rid of the real books. I simply cannot store much more than 100 real
[10:29] <neil>  books where I live.
[10:34] <neil> Can anyone make any suggestions for learning to program? Many years ago I learnt a little basic on my Sinclair Spectrum, but I have not done any programming since then. I need to try and find a book or online course that assume nothing more than a reasonable knowledge of mathematics as the starting point and teaches everything else I need to learn about programming. I want to start trying to do things for myself instead of rel
[10:34] <neil> lying upon the operating systems and other software that other people create.
[10:40] <geirha> neil: I'd recommend starting with python.
[10:41] <geirha> There's a tutorial here http://docs.python.org/   Ubuntu comes with python pre-installed.
[10:47] <neil> Thanks geirha. I have heard of python and know much is written in that language now. I will look at the web site you have suggested. My knowledge is really out of date by about 25 years. I remember that I used to read about things like Pascal and Ada when I last looked at programming, but I never had time for learning then.
[10:59] <neil> geirha, I have looked at the web site you suggested and it seems good. I will start working through that web site soon. I guess I should learn some programming before I start to think about making changes to Linux itself. I have found my way around Ubuntu Linux enough for knowing where some things are kept and know how to find a few things. For example I can make programs auto-start with Ubuntu if I want to. But in general I s
[10:59] <neil> till do not know anything about the files that make Ubuntu or any other Linux work. One of the first things I would like to learn as soon as possible is how to create drivers. The main fault I have noticed with Linux is the graphics drivers are not good when Linux displays 2 different screens on the PC monitor and my HD Television.
[11:01] <geirha> Writing drivers is much harder, and it requires you to learn C programming
[11:01] <neil> C? Ok, thanks for that. Drivers can wait for now I guess.
[11:04] <neil> I am guessing that my starting point must be a simple program that does something useful and is not in any way dependent  on particular hardware. So why C for drivers and not some other programming language?
[11:09] <geirha> The kernel is written in C and only exposes a C api.
[11:11] <neil> I see. So it is an issue with the Linux kernel and not drivers in general, is that correct? I can remember that a driver is the code that deals with communication between devices and the operating system. So it is C code in the kernel that says Linux drivers must be written in C. Is that correct?
[11:13] <geirha> More or less, yes.
[11:14] <neil> Thanks for that geirha. I will go offline now. I have lots of other work and studying I must do as well as I will soon be going back to university in my late 40s, but I will look at the web site on python as soon as I can.
[11:52] <neil> I have just added this irc channel to Pidgin so that I can keep everything in one place and have a constant connection to this channel when my computer is online. Could a few people send me some short messages in about 1 minute so that I can check whether or not Pidgin alerts me to new messages? Maybe just type test a few times over the next few minutes? Thanks
[12:10] <geirha> neil: test
[12:20] <neil> Thanks geirha. Seems to be working ok. Unfortunately pidgin does not work quite as I had hoped with this plugin for irc. I get an irc window open when pidgin starts. I had hoped that the window would not open until someone actually sends a message. I guess there is no real hardship in minimising the window for getting it off of the screen. If there is a lot of conversation then the irc window would be on my screen anyway unless
[13:11] <neil> During the last 40 minutes all that I have had come through to me is the following  information showing who has entered and left the room. Can someone please type test so that I can find out if Pidgin will inform me of new messages when I have the irc window minimised? Thanks.
[13:11] <neil> (13:20:35) frankbooth<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (13:24:00) glebihan left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
[13:11] <neil> (13:26:19) raju [~raju@unaffiliated/genupulas] entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (13:32:42) DooitzeCompaq left the room (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
[13:11] <neil> (13:40:30) glebihan<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (13:57:10) glebihan left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).
[13:11] <neil> (13:58:35) bladernr<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (14:01:01) glebihan<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (14:01:02) iceflatline<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:11] <neil> (14:01:36) suprengr_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>entered the room.
[13:12] <neil> (14:03:29) suprengr left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).
[13:12] <bladernr> type test
[13:12] <bladernr> neil:  ^^ ;-)
[13:12] <bioterror> (O_o)
[13:13] <iceflatline> test
[13:18] <neil> Thanks for that everyone. I briefly get a notification message on my screen, but it could easily be missed when I am working, especially if i am moving about from one web site to another, one page of a PDF to another, typing in a text editor or whatever. What a pity. A persistent message displayed over all other windows until cancelled would be better than a notification that is displayed for a few seconds and could be missed al
[13:18] <holstein> nope
[13:18] <holstein> neil: there was no activity
[13:19] <holstein> if you see join/quit messages... all is well
[13:20] <holstein> neil: you can also query the bot if you want
[13:25] <neil> Thanks Holstein. There is a lot of silence on ubuntu-beginners. I would like to know of any new messages in case they contain useful information, but I do not want to constantly be looking at an irc window... I have other things I need to do with my computer. I am trying to find a way of knowing about any new message typed on ubuntu-beginners, but to be able to do other things without being bothered by irc when there is no messa
[13:26] <holstein> you can just check in later
[13:27] <holstein> usually you get some kind of beep or something when someone says your name
[13:27] <holstein> like... neil
[13:27] <holstein> other than that, you can set certain terms to notify you
[13:27] <holstein> usually, theres some indication of activity though
[13:28] <neil> Yes. The problem with that is i miss what happens between now and later. What i really need is an irc window that cannot be missed whenever a new message is sent, but it stays minimised after reading until the next new message.
[13:28] <holstein> in irrsi, this is window 8 for me... if there is a little white "8", i know there has been activity
[13:28] <holstein> if its a little dark blue "8", i know there have been part/join messages
[13:29] <holstein> if its purple? someone has said my nick
[13:29] <holstein> neil: i just leave the irc open on a workspace
[13:30] <frankbooth> neil why don̈́'t you just disable join/quit messages? :)
[13:31] <neil> Pidgin displays a notification for a few seconds and then it disappears. If I am working at the time then pressing a key on my keyboard or a button on my mouse could cause me to miss the notification completely because whatever I am working on will prevent the notification from displaying as soon as a mouse key press or keboard key press causes an active window to obscure the Pidgin notification.
[13:31] <holstein> frankbooth: actually, i think neil is searching for more notification
[13:31] <holstein> neil: i dont know much about pidgin
[13:31] <holstein> but, the notification state should be there when you return to pidgin
[13:31] <holstein> the popup popsup
[13:31] <holstein> if you miss it
[13:32] <holstein> you check in when you get back
[13:32] <holstein> OR.. try xchat neil
[13:32] <frankbooth> Xch
[13:32] <frankbooth> Xchat should suit you yeah
[13:32] <holstein> i think xchat is the go-to GUI client
[13:37] <neil> Thanks frankbooth and holstein. Yes, I have Xchat as well. I was hoping that pidgin could cope with everything and make Xchat unecessary. I do not know much about Xchat, I have only used it a few times over the last few days. Can Xchat be configured so that it stays out of my way during silence, but i do not miss any messages sent when ubuntu-beginners has chat activity? reading a history after the event is not good enough. If s
[13:38] <frankbooth> You can minimize it to tray and set it to notify you when there's a new message in the channel
[13:38] <frankbooth> (instant)
[13:45] <neil> So far that sounds good, frankbooth. Does the notification message stay on screen until cancelled and on top of all other open windows , or could the notification message be missed because it disappears or goes unnoticed when typing or using the mouse when the message is displayed. Most notification messages are ok if I am looking at a screen and not actually doing anything when they are displayed.  But when I am typing, using t
[13:45] <holstein> it should work just like other notifications
[13:46] <holstein> the message *should* disappear
[13:46] <holstein> then the little xchat icon will prolly give some different feedback to indicate a message has popped up
[13:47] <holstein> i think skype does that.. the tray icon changes into something to let you know
[13:47] <holstein> you wont find a notification that just stays in place like that
[13:48] <neil> I'll give Xchat another try, but any notification message that is not noticed because I am typing at the time when it pops up is not a good enough notification message. Thanks Holstein and frankbooth. I will stay online, but I must do other things now.
[13:48] <holstein> i mean, its linux... its all open, so if you want to change it, im sure you can, but the default notification action is to pop up and be subtle, and go away
[13:49] <holstein> and its taken quite a long time for these subtleties to develop
[13:50] <neil> As soon as I learn to program, I will write an plugin so that Pidgin notification messages are on top of all other open windows and stay there until cancelled. Thanks. I must go now.
[13:51] <holstein> neil: o/
[15:42] <psycho693> Exciting in here isnt it lol
[20:38]  * strawberry