[00:48] <sem> in lubuntu you can right click an executable and select "Trust this executable" however this is different from Properties>Permissions>Mark this file as executable. I get the second thing is chmod +x, but what is the first thing?
 The trust makes it so you don't get the execute prompt a ton of times if you luanch something a lot
[00:49] <sem> ah, thanks!
 I was added recently to that group I got your contact, so I decided to text you just to know if you're earning from them.


[09:08] <FloatingGoat> so ardour doesnt have midi support?
[09:23] <FloatingGoat> getting the ardour3 beta now
[09:23] <FloatingGoat> looks awesome
[09:28] <FloatingGoat> PROBLEMS


[05:08] <hakimsheriff> could anyone tell me exactly what this team does?
[05:16] <Linden940> we help make marketing paper work an or other things of the like
[05:16] <Linden940> anything that would deal with marketing =P
[05:22] <hakimsheriff> like advetising?


[00:49] <ianorlinqt> wow only 2 people signed up as booth volunteers so far
[00:50] <ianorlinqt> on the wiki or is there another space?
[01:11] <nhaines> ianorlinqt: Just the wiki.
[01:21] <nhandler> Well, I just found out that Yelp is sponsoring the event and that we have someone speaking. Not getting my hopes up, but I submitted my name as someone interested in attending. So we'll see
[01:25] <nhaines> nhandler: good luck!
[01:26] <nhandler> nhaines: Thanks. It probably doesn't help that I am in talks with my manager right now about getting the company to let me attend two other events, but we shall see. From everything I have been seeing, it should be a great event
[01:30] <nhaines> Haha
[01:30] <nhaines> It's going to be fantastic.  It always is in the first place, but it's going to continue to improve.
[01:31] <nhaines> I'm going to be on an Ubuntu Leadership panel at UbuCon on Friday, prepresenting the LoCo Council.
[01:32] <nhaines> I definitely didn't imagine myself sitting along Mark Shuttleworth on a panel 8 years ago when I started Ubuntu advocacy.  Or last year, really.  :P
[01:38] <nhandler> nhaines: You definitely deserve to be up there :)
[01:38] <nhaines> nhandler: Aww, thanks. :)
[01:39] <nhaines> I'm going to pretend I do, anyway.  Because as these things go, you can only feign experience and legitimacy so long before you have it!
[01:49] <akk> Somebody, Sarah Mei I think, gave a talk on public speaking at She's Geeky a couple years back where she talked about the big lie
[01:49] <akk> where you're pretending that you're confident and know you belong there
[01:49] <akk> and it's all a big lie, and maybe some of the audience even knows it's a lie, but that's okay, as long as you pretend, it'll be a good talk.
[01:49] <akk> (She said it better, I wish I remembered quite how.)
[02:04] <nhaines> Yup, been saying that for years.
[02:48] <pleia2> nhaines: the event, ubucon?
[02:48] <pleia2> err nhandler
[02:48] <pleia2> darnit
[02:48] <pleia2> one of you is going to have to move
[02:48] <pleia2> I kid, I kid <3
[02:57] <akk> One of them really should change his name. :)


[01:07] <gilbert> Derath-Srvr: ping
[02:15] <Cheri703> so...how is everyone tonight?
[02:17] <Unit193> You're the one sending the meeting mails now...
[02:18] <Cheri703> yeah...?
[02:21] <Unit193> Nothing more, it just seems like it may be a shortmeeting if it's only (needed) ReLoCo updates
[02:22] <Cheri703> well, other general stuff too
[02:22] <Cheri703> and short meetings aren't bad :)
[02:23] <Unit193> +1 to that! I know a few that don't seem to get that...
[02:25] <Cheri703> I went from having very little on my calendar (actual real life things and ubuntu/online things), to having TONS to do in the next few weeks
[02:25] <Cheri703> including cleaning my house before my parents come visit >.<
[02:26] <jandrusk> Just dump everything in a closet or attic.
[02:36] <Cheri703> yeah, there will probably be at least one room that stays closed...
[02:37] <android272> when is this IRC thing close
[02:38] <Cheri703> ?
[02:38] <Cheri703> android272: what do you mean?
[02:41] <android272> I am in a family meating and cant pay atenchen to this.  the email said a start time but not a end time. this is my first time to in here I dont know how it works
[02:41] <Cheri703> oh, the meeting is next wednesday at 8
[02:41] <Cheri703> june 29th
[02:42] <android272> oh I just followed the link and signed in.
[02:42] <Cheri703> IRC is pretty much open 24/7, you can come in and talk and then leave or just leave yourself signed in
[02:42] <Cheri703> that's ok :)
[02:42] <android272> thanks.
[02:42] <Cheri703> you're welcome to come back any time
[02:42] <Cheri703> is this paul by any chance? or?
[02:46] <Cheri703> ok bye
[02:46] <Unit193> Timeout...
[03:42] <Unit193> I get firefox on a mini install?????
[03:42] <Cheri703> hrm?
[03:43] <Unit193> I installed with the mini.iso and doing upgrades without installing anything else, I get an update of firefox!
[03:44] <Cheri703> well, most people want/need a browser
[03:44] <Unit193> Not if I don't even have a GUI yet!
[03:45] <Cheri703> true
[04:30] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:30] <canthus13> weird.
[04:30] <Unit193> And when I installed the core, no X or desktop...
[04:30] <Unit193> skellat: Howdy!
[04:31] <skellat> Hello
[04:46] <canthus13> Yup. that's what I started with... what's funny is that X isn't a dependancy of Openbox... you can install openbox and not run it because X is missing.
[04:46] <Unit193> I was talking lubuntu-core
[04:47] <canthus13> Oh.
[15:32] <dniMretsaM> just sent my first mailing list message. hope I did it right...
[15:57] <gillyman> hey cheri
[15:57] <Cheri703> hello
[15:57] <gillyman> got a question for you
[15:57] <Cheri703> sure
[15:58] <gillyman> alli got her driver loaded and it will say that shes connected but when she gos to pull up the internet, it will say that server not found
[15:59] <gillyman> did she download the wrong one
[15:59] <dmcglone> gillyman what does lspci report?
[16:00] <Cheri703> it's in windows dmcglone
[16:00] <dmcglone> Ah Ok
[16:01] <andrew_> sorry my computer went stupid for a sec
[16:01] <Cheri703> uhm, that could be any of a few things. it might be that she's not getting an IP address, it could be the driver, it could be something else
[16:01] <andrew_> ok what can i do to check for that stuff
[16:02] <dmcglone> gillyman first make sure the NIC is properly reconized first in the hardware list, that will confirm whether the driver was the correct one.
[16:02] <andrew_> ok she just told me what it was doing this morning
[16:03] <andrew_> im still here
[16:03] <Cheri703> once she's connected to the network, do "ipconfig" from the command line
[16:03] <andrew_> sorry
[16:03] <Cheri703> see what it gets, if it doesn't have an ip, or it's 169.something, then it's not receiving an ip properly
[16:03] <andrew_> ok i
[16:04] <andrew_> well does windows have a command line
[16:04] <Cheri703> because if it's seeing wireless networks, and saying it is connected, that is *probably* not a driver thing (still possible though)
[16:04] <andrew_> ????
[16:04] <Cheri703> yeah, just go to start menu > run > cmd
[16:04] <Cheri703> (she's still in xp, yeah?)
[16:04] <andrew_> ok
[16:04] <andrew_> ya
[16:04] <Cheri703> kk
[16:05] <andrew_> kool i dident know that
[16:05] <Cheri703> you can also access it under start > programs > accessories > command prompt
[16:05] <Cheri703> the commands are different than ubuntu because it's dos based, but similar
[16:05] <andrew_> is there a code i need to put in to do that
[16:05] <Cheri703> just ipconfig
[16:05] <andrew_> command code
[16:05] <andrew_> ok
[16:05] <Cheri703> it will show you the info about the connection
[16:06] <andrew_> ok what do i need to look for
[16:06] <Cheri703> ip address
[16:06] <andrew_> ok
[16:06] <Cheri703> it should probably be a 192.168.something.something
[16:06] <andrew_> if she dont have one what do i need to do
[16:06] <Cheri703> if it has <IP_ADDRESS> or 169.something, then it's not getting one
[16:07] <andrew_> what do i need to get an ip
[16:07] <Cheri703> then you'll need to try to connect to that wireless network with a different computer, if that works, then get the ip from that one, and manually set the ip to something similar (or if you already know the ip range, just set it)
[16:08] <Cheri703> or try unplugging the router and plugging it back in after 30 seconds
[16:08] <andrew_> i dont really know how to do any of that
[16:08] <Cheri703> that might work too
[16:08] <Cheri703> ok, I can help, you can call me if you need to
[16:08] <dmcglone> andrew_: type ipconfig /renew
[16:09] <andrew_> ok i need your number, i gave your card to a friend that was starting to have soime troubles with her computer
[16:09] <andrew_> ok i'll try that
[16:10] <andrew_> if i try your way cheri, where do i go to get my ip, or can she use my ip
[16:11] <dmcglone> if your not getting an IP but your NIC is working properly, then you've got a problem with the network setup
[16:11] <Cheri703> you would just right click on the network icon in the upper right panel, choose "connection information" and if (for example) your ip was <IP_ADDRESS>, you could give her one of <IP_ADDRESS> or something
[16:12] <Cheri703> yeah dmcglone, I'm just trying to suggest a way to at least make sure they have connection, router fixing can come in a bit
[16:12] <Cheri703> I pm'd you my number
[16:12] <andrew_> ok
[16:13] <canthus13> Cheri703: DNS could be an issue as well.
[16:13] <Cheri703> canthus13: true
[16:14] <Cheri703> I figure start with the things that are on the computer itself, if those check out, THEN tackle the router things
[16:14] <canthus13> could be a static IP set with a bad gateway...
[16:14] <canthus13> could just need to reinstall the drivers... :/
[16:14] <Cheri703> because if he can get online with his computer, and she can't, then we know it's her computer
[16:14] <Cheri703> so...
[16:14] <dmcglone> canthus13: thats what I was about to say
[16:14] <Cheri703> yeah, we'll see
[16:14] <canthus13> could also be the browse... check the proxy settings.
[16:14] <andrew_> ok]
[16:14] <Cheri703> canthus13: fresh reinstall of xp
[16:15] <dmcglone> Cheri703: good info there. so he's getting on but she's not
[16:15] <canthus13> ...browser.  I've seen quite I few machines with the proxy set this week.
[16:15] <andrew_> ya
[16:15] <canthus13> I'm thinking an update somewhere is messing with proxy settings.
[16:15]  * canthus13 can't type this morning. :/
[16:15] <dmcglone> canthus13: couldn't be the case, if it's a fresh install :-/
[16:15] <Cheri703> I've got to start getting ready to head out, but I'll be checking back here, just expect potentially delayed responses :)
[16:16] <canthus13> dmcglone: Sure it could.
[16:16] <andrew_> its saying that shes connected but when the internet come up is saying server not found
[16:16] <canthus13> andrew_: check the proxy.  go to tools > internet options.. connections tab... lan settings.  make sure nothing is checked (except maybe automagically detect settings)
[16:17] <andrew_> ,ok
[16:17] <dmcglone> andrew, are you using a an SSID?
[16:17] <andrew_> idk im kinda new
[16:17] <andrew_> at this
[16:17] <canthus13> all good. :)
[16:17] <dmcglone> after you check the proxy settings, check so see if her computer is connecting to the correct SSID also
[16:18] <andrew_> ok where do i go to do that
[16:18] <canthus13> Is she connecting wirelessley?
[16:18] <andrew_> ya
[16:18] <dmcglone> yes canthus13
[16:18] <dmcglone> andrew_: check the connection status and see the SSID
[16:19] <canthus13> Ok.  lower right corner, by the clock... hover your mouse over the network icon and see what it's connecting to.
[16:19] <andrew_> ok
[16:20] <dmcglone> is it connecting to the same SSID as the one that is working andrew_?
[16:20] <andrew_> i dont have her computer right now
[16:20] <canthus13> ah.
[16:21] <dmcglone> then how are you fixing this?
[16:21] <andrew_> she call me asking why its doing what its doing
[16:21] <dmcglone> Ah
[16:21] <dmcglone> well thats a bummer
[16:21] <andrew_> i told her that i would get on her and ask how to fix it
[16:21] <andrew_> sorry
[16:21] <dmcglone> we can't fix it without info
[16:21] <canthus13> All good.
[16:22] <dmcglone> I agree it's all good :-)
[16:22] <andrew_> im trying to call her and have her bring over like now
[16:22] <canthus13> dmcglone: not totally true... The stuff we've named is the most common problems...
[16:22] <dmcglone> maybe we can get her to use Ubuntu instead :-)
[16:22] <canthus13> Heh.
[16:22] <andrew_> ya and i thank you guys for helping me
[16:22] <dmcglone> true canthus13 but if we go throwing out things without checking, we could make it worse... LOL
[16:22] <canthus13> No prob.
[16:22]  * canthus13 troubleshoots windows connectivity issues all day long.
[16:23] <canthus13> dmcglone: Nothing we've listed so far can break anything.
[16:23] <dmcglone> true, we haven't made any changes, so thats good... :-)
[16:23] <canthus13> I can do the basic stuff in my sleep.. (Hell, I *HAVE* done the basic stuff in my sleep, I think...)
[16:23] <dmcglone> lol canthus13
[16:23] <andrew_> lol
[16:24] <Cheri703> andrew_: if you don't make any progress, let me know, and probably thursday you could bring it over here or something
[16:24] <dmcglone> been there done that. but the past 3 days I've been working a rubiks cube in my sleep
[16:24] <andrew_> ok i will
[16:24] <andrew_> brb need more coffee
[16:24] <canthus13> dmcglone: Kinda hard to see colors with your eyes closed...
[16:25] <dmcglone> It's in my head!! lOL
[16:25] <canthus13> Heh.
[16:25] <canthus13> easy to cheat that way. :)
[16:25] <dmcglone> I've noticed I was watching tv and my mind was trying to work the TV screen like a rubiks cube
[16:26] <dmcglone> I've been at this thing for 3 days, im friggin close, but keep messing it up again
[16:27] <dniMretsaM> watch utube vids
[16:27] <dmcglone> youtube isn't gonna solve it
[16:27] <dniMretsaM> the vids help though. they teach u algorithms
[16:28] <dmcglone> how does algorithms gonna solve it?
[16:30] <dniMretsaM> they give you definite patterns for moving pieces to the right place without messing others up
[16:51] <Cheri703> Once I get home this afternoon (and after fixing this computer if I have to bring it home) I'm going to explore the world of text expansion...
[17:02] <gillyman> hey cheri
[17:02] <gillyman> im back
[17:02] <gillyman> ok
[17:02] <gillyman> alli just got here
[17:03] <gillyman> her wireless work here at my house
[17:03] <gillyman> but not at hers
[17:03] <gillyman> so the other thing that it could be is her wireless router???right
[17:04] <gillyman> canthus 13: im back
[17:04] <gillyman> its andrew
[17:05] <gillyman> i was just talking to you about my gfs wireless
[17:14] <dniMretsaM> enjoy Cheri703
[17:14] <dniMretsaM> like all over or just email or what?
[17:20] <thafreak> http://code.google.com/p/google-authenticator/
[17:20] <thafreak> you can add a pam module to your box, to add 2 factor auth for ssh logins...
[17:26] <dniMretsaM> I g2g. see you guys later
[18:51] <Unit193> skellat: Howdy doody!
[18:51] <skellat> Howdy
[18:51] <skellat> How is your Tuesday?
[18:51] <Unit193> It's going... How about you?
[18:52] <Unit193> I'm not sure I'll be able to make the meeting next week..
[18:52] <skellat> It is good so far.  Trying to figure out why one of the two PATA optical media drives is getting flaky
[19:15] <Cheri703> \o/ gotta love getting a client out of NOWHERE, neighbor across the street just dropped off her boss' computer for me to work on :)
[19:16] <skellat> Nice
[19:17] <Cheri703> and the lady was REALLY ok with the price, and even asked me to send back cards when I return it :)
[19:17] <skellat> Even better
[19:17] <skellat> We have an overabundance of computer repair places here in Ashtabula County
[19:19] <Cheri703> there are a decent number of them around here, but a. I've heard they can be snotty, b. they are fairly pricey
[19:20] <Cheri703> I'm good with non-technical people
[19:20] <Cheri703> they appreciate it. also, women often feel more comfortable having a woman to deal with, so that's helpful :)
[19:20] <Unit193> Geek Squad!
[19:20] <Cheri703> bah
[19:20] <Unit193> ;)
[19:20] <Cheri703> I often tell people: if you don't use me, that's fine, just don't use geek squad
[19:22] <canthus13> Uh-oh...spamming the ml again... :)
[19:23] <Unit193> Maybe someone can to like what Xubuntu does?
[19:26] <skellat> Unit193: Say again?
[19:29] <Unit193> Xubuntu has the meetings in #xubuntu-devel because the meeting room is booked. After the meeting, someone creates minutes and sends them with the log of the meeting to the ML
[19:54] <Unit193> Mac terminal is so close to linux that most commands transfer just fine (I know it uses the darwin kernel)
[19:57] <canthus13> Most do... yeah.  It's BSD based.
[19:58] <Unit193> I had no idea how to make a boot USB so I had to use dd (And that only would boot on a PC, not the mac :(  )
[20:24] <skellat> Cross-posted the meeting announcement to the forum FWIW
[21:51] <gilbert> Derath-Srvr: pingy ping?
[22:22] <gilbert> we need some kind of technical solution to keep the mailing list and forum crowd in sync w eachother
[22:26] <gilbert> anyone wanna work on some kind of solution for that???
[22:31] <Cheri703> gilbert: I may be poking at elgg soon
[22:32] <Cheri703> my thought was for my trial version I'd maybe try to set up something for the loco...
[22:32] <gilbert> Cheri703: aren't u fairly busy already ;)
[22:32] <Cheri703> or we could have someone just put together a weekly "forum updates" email
[22:32] <Cheri703> yes
[22:33] <gilbert> well, that would be awesome if you come up with a solution.  it really seems like we're two locos: forum vs ml
[22:33] <Cheri703> every time I look at the forum, there have been no posts for some ridiculously long time
[22:33] <gilbert> and maybe irc as a third one too
[22:34] <gilbert> hmmm, it seems like it could be much more useful if forum posts showed up to more people like on the ml
[22:34] <Cheri703> would one of the forum folks who is also on the ml volunteer to do a "key forum things" post? and also have a sticky on the forum of a link to the ml archives
[22:34] <gilbert> maybe that would increase users there
[22:34] <gilbert> Cheri703: sticky is a great idea.  we could do that now
[22:34] <Cheri703> k
[22:35] <Cheri703> perhaps a volunteer forum/ml liaison that could pass on key ml things to the forum and vice versa
[23:25] <canthus13> There are forum people? Are they dead or something?
[23:27]  * canthus13 wonders if someone is going to quit because we're having an openbox metapackage discussion in there...
[23:31] <Cheri703> TOO MUCH ACTIVITY
[23:42] <paultag> /quit openbox


[00:07] <paw19> should only pause if you had the keycode and notimeout for everything
[00:07] <paw19> https://paste.debian.net/1043050
[00:07] <paw19> a____ptr: I'd love to disagree, but I don't.
[00:08] <paw19> dgurney, including all the ones soldered to the motherboard? :D
[00:08] <paw19> i managed to simplify the example down to 4-5 lines, could someone take a look? https://repl.it/repls/RawExhaustedArray
[01:18] <devhen20> Ohh right
[01:18] <devhen20> in other words, I can't just trust it'll be always LE. I need ensurance
[01:18] <devhen20> you can search for tags in it
[01:18] <devhen20> yes, but that's for retrieving mail
[01:18] <devhen20> i just dont want to redraw it all :P
[01:18] <devhen20> forgive my ignorance
[01:27] <spikebike22> onpora: what does this say?  'cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'  on the 2.1 device
[01:27] <spikebike22> they still on x499
[01:27] <spikebike22> or services/presence by default.
[01:27] <spikebike22> alereon: i haven't ever run qmail myself, i went straight to opensmtpd  (on debian though)
[01:27] <spikebike22> mnrmnaugh: We don't know what you think that syntax means. What does it mean to you?
[01:27] <spikebike22> splud: fine tip temp controlled iron mostly (though i have bigger tips if necessary)
[01:56] <urlgrabber29> i have no more money :( if any one want i we can make farm with his invest and i get free power for that !
[01:56] <urlgrabber29> SuperQ: but that was not bad data before
[01:56] <urlgrabber29> Light: There was light-ning today - that is what killed the asus nighthawk today.
[01:56] <urlgrabber29> I think I seen Reservoir Dogs
[01:57] <urlgrabber29> does "xxd -r -p" remove STX byte from the string?
[03:14] <simfir1> dviola: the best option is probably mainline
[03:14] <simfir1> i get stuck on pseudo device part.. netbsd seems to have howto.. can it be used for openbsd as well?
[03:14] <simfir1> what kdf is used, and what cipher? docs just say the mode is CFB?
[03:14] <simfir1> Kn|ves: for my first act of help, I would like to ask you to ask a real question...one describing the problem for example.
[03:15] <simfir1> ɡoⅴᥱrnⅿᥱᥒts ɑre nοt ԁοіnɡ Aⅼⅼɑh іs ⅾoiᥒg
[03:35] <hosified> sounds like your ext4 module isn't there
[03:35] <hosified> all i need is a watermelon
[03:35] <hosified> yeah so it has no ipv4 address, thats what ripe is likely complaining about
[03:35] <hosified> velocity, acceleration, and ? (whatever the fuck it is) ARE widely accepted.
[03:35] <hosified> to be fair sex is for dumb fuckers
[03:35] <hosified> tytan: error checking... what happens if it expects a number and you type some letters?
[04:26] <grubles23> Verify test suite still works for python3, and build for rawhide.
[04:26] <grubles23> Gender are like the twin towers. There used to be 2 of them but now it's a really sensitive subject.
[04:26] <grubles23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWVu-qPR-Ws
[04:26] <grubles23> Foxfir3: does arch not have a command to list all files installed by a given package?
[04:27] <grubles23> I can't think of any other examples, which is probably why the spec is so specific, but postgis or something might have a fun use case for it
[04:27] <grubles23> Ok I think I recalled an example from 1 year ago.  Suppose S_Z is group of bijections Z -> Z, and S_N is bijections N -> N. So S_N is subgroup of S_Z, right?
[05:07] <Pillus24> "Hmm, your system is crunchy on the outside and entirely random on the inside.  Guess I'll go troll farbebook lusers, instead."
[05:07] <Pillus24> aww, no karma bot
[05:07] <Pillus24> faq 15 is really short and pretty much only examples.
[05:07] <Pillus24> if you need an unique and stable (not changing) natural key for stocks, that's the ISIN.
[05:07] <Pillus24> Dagmar: actually kindergarten kids have a very clear idea of when another kid is behaving badly - but they lack the skills to call out that behaviour without their own behaviour degenerating to the same level
[05:39] <markzen15> za1b1tsu: goto does a bit much for my taste, but well that's my taste.
[05:39] <markzen15> However services are not working
[05:39] <markzen15> no_gravity: Same thing as | but you can't use | as apart of a mapping
[05:39] <markzen15> I'm not waiting another month to hear from them, that's damn sure
[05:50] <dza24> gunpla
[05:50] <dza24> bill-auger: Not right now, no.
[05:51] <dza24> [0]
[05:51] <dza24> so do the nitro SE's
[06:39] <zachary123> well i'm out of here, the kids are playing
[06:39] <zachary123> i can get some gpu for $200 || $250 only xD
[07:45] <EdwardIII28> It is usually not a good idea to choose to mix and combine both Nginx *and* Apache. Consider picking *one* web server and using it. Using two web servers to serve one piece of content is like loading a car full of groceries into an airplane to deliver them; it makes no sense!
[07:45] <EdwardIII28> it's not like this is an open protocol
[07:59] <tlonim17> unyu: if it is distributive, then they do distrivute like + and *
[07:59] <tlonim17> And would like to help, instead of "read the manual"
[07:59] <tlonim17> MacinMan: The two Fusion variants share the same engine and the same restrictions, just that Fusion Pro is designed to interoperate with Workstation and ESXi's more advanced features - something most Fusion users won't need.
[08:00] <tlonim17> linux_probe: vimeo.com/287978756
[08:10] <lukad2> There are no maps that preserve distances.
[08:10] <lukad2> aw, that's not true, I care about you
[08:10] <lukad2> hey guys.. question.. i'm using iwaitnotify to monitor a few folders. Anyone know how i can add a new folder to monitor without actually killing the process ? i am running it in a screen but if i kill that then the current folders may miss files... any way to add new monitor folders without restarting current ones ?
[08:57] <joe_z10> it slowly vaporizes
[08:57] <joe_z10> kmc, i was half joking anyways. kmc, do you know that in serbia govt fully covers trans gender operations
[09:51] <Palmarwu> Does an ELF linux executable (not an archive or shared library) contain the symbols for objects inside a shared library that is needed by another shared library that is needed by the executable itself?
[09:51] <Palmarwu> compact: run a sha256sum on both files
[09:51] <Palmarwu> :help startup
[09:58] <xuuWy> furrywolf: wouldn't be surprised if these are either fed in a list  (since the spambots do also use variations of these as nicks) or if they try to do ssh based attacks in addition to spam
[09:58] <xuuWy> TheBloke screen -ls <screen name> does check for that specific name
[09:58] <igflavius> He just wasn't bothered, I think.
[09:58] <igflavius> because it no longer accumulates all thunks but evaluates them at each step which will probably result in it being passed unboxed in some register
[09:58] <igflavius> I think it's atrocious behavior because it weakens the type system for enum classes, and violates the overall meaning of brace initializers
[11:02] <sneagantq> A colorscheme as subtle, gentle and pleasant as its creator isn't. https://github.com/romainl/Apprentice
[11:02] <sneagantq> kcrow, really?
[11:21] <\mSgus> ooh that reflective is cool
[11:21] <\mSgus> dualerium: well, how do we solve this paradox?
[11:22] <\mSgus> Hyouchuu: who cares?
[11:51] <jmivenBX> IntelCore, I still do that today for switches, but it requires an active Serial to USB adapter these days
[11:51] <jmivenBX> Looks invite only
[12:41] <b0nnyy> you can make over 150 products from crude oil
[12:41] <b0nnyy> maybe that space filling fractal?
[12:42] <b0nnyy> kenonoke123, do you know l'Hopital
[12:42] <b0nnyy> not carrier level infrastructure...
[12:58] <zombywufkh> insert_text () of course
[12:58] <zombywufkh> that's nothing to do with freebsd, though
[12:58] <zombywufkh> heh moriarty :P
[14:48] <ccl-logbotSx> if not, then you do nothing but live your life
[14:48] <ccl-logbotSx> (09:56:31) \x: you get highend audio, dualbios, rgb
[14:48] <ccl-logbotSx> lurkashf2ake: you should also see what they say on their web site
[14:49] <ccl-logbotSx> yഠu ϲаn ᥒot gеt a ϳഠb ᴡitһout the pᥱrmⅰssioᥒ of ɑllah
[14:49] <ccl-logbotSx> mancha: sssh don't help him he's just going to split my coffee into three places and make me go on a scavenger hunt before I can drink it again
[15:29] <Duns_ScrotusiX> but it creates a pointer
[15:29] <Duns_ScrotusiX> I just saw that this was around: https://github.com/skywind3000/quickmenu.vim. That seems to be exactly what I'm looking for.
[15:29] <Duns_ScrotusiX> because I like systemd and friends
[15:29] <Duns_ScrotusiX> probs: it's stylistic. often both parentheses and curlies work
[15:29] <Duns_ScrotusiX> if it's really not persistent, then login to the server each day, borg and type the key
[15:38] <deniskahd> there are actually 3 in the one I posted if you scroll down a bit
[15:38] <deniskahd> TYEAH LIKE WAT
[15:38] <deniskahd> ponyrider: everything must, because alsa is what the kernel knows
[15:50] <pavlushka_> i mean an off the shelf one I can combine with a matrix I have laying around
[15:50] <pavlushka_> its also may end up creating an un-manageable pitfall
[15:50] <pavlushka_> how do I rawify lpaste url?
[15:50] <pavlushka_> anyone who knows how to extract this tar.gz?
[16:42] <QRealmGi> Maybe you should read the papers before going on?
[16:42] <QRealmGi> 1000000*(0.08)*(0.08) to be more precise. your formula doesn't take into account the 8% tax on the 8% price increase.
[16:43] <QRealmGi> that is correct.
[16:46] <Croephamn> cf BAD IDEA
[16:46] <Croephamn> Sounds like it could potentially work, but I don't know all of the steps involved and only once messed with a VM a long time ago.
[16:46] <Croephamn> is this correct? https://i.imgur.com/aTp4RXb.jpg
[16:46] <Croephamn> glguy: yes 😅 I'll be careful now on-wards. Thank u!
[16:46] <Croephamn> what about ones i had?
[16:46] <Croephamn> Don't be a wuss, just bust it out into some jpegs!
[16:57] <Guest21615> igemnace: I tested using `system '!pass stuff | eval'`
[16:57] <Guest21615> Foxfir3: makes it so you can partially undo what was entered
[17:05] <stakdgP> tr4656_: which speakers?
[17:05] <stakdgP> interesting; I'd've seen it the other way around. it's easier to say "i did this" with a commit than "everything here is 100% correct" with a tag
[17:05] <stakdgP> Myrl-saki: The start of Haskell was 1989
[17:05] <stakdgP> and this life is just a binary simulation
[17:06] <stakdgP> Eightynine: Keep looking.
[17:06] <stakdgP> $ sysctl -d kern.lua.bytecode
[17:42] <e2ug> Atom editor is very good these days
[17:42] <e2ug> much readable
[17:43] <e2ug> I have a usergroup called wordpress that both are in, tried setting sudo chown andre:wordpress /home/viktor/ftp
[18:02] <don_quixote> functions in C can't modify their arguments
[18:02] <don_quixote> i have two usb controllers, presumably one usb3 and one usb2, if i remove one of them then sys-usb boots but doesn't actually make the mass storage device available
[18:02] <don_quixote> compiz
[18:02] <don_quixote> noobybooby, maybe you should have separate buttons for reverse x and reverse y
[19:18] <samkottlerMi> nfs-client.target - NFS client services
[19:18] <samkottlerMi> yeah, I don't mind logging into my freebsd box occasionally to update plex.
[19:24] <tuvokWD> it doesnt have efi support
[19:24] <tuvokWD> but nore necessary...
[19:24] <tuvokWD> it's like dorp doesn't even realize they've been spamming the same urls
[19:24] <tuvokWD> (or i suppose SML/NJ, since you want higher-order types)
[20:06] <bonestorm> I'd agree that providing the revisioned tarball would be better, and skete-haskell does
[20:06] <bonestorm> fіlesуstᥱⅿ dഠᥱѕ nоt ᴡrite withоut pᥱrⅿiѕѕioᥒ of allaһ
[21:06] <tlundMk> audioburn, it was a stupid idea all along, from a technical point of view, and now that I know what it's for, I'm even less likely to help you with it
[21:06] <tlundMk> I understand that. There's a class, creates a Pointer to an IMPlementation. But presumably the user has the other code so they can build the binary
[21:23] <silverxv> foοd ԁഠes nⲟt tɑke ɑway tһe hunɡer Allah takes aᴡay the һunɡᥱr
[21:23] <silverxv> caseyliss you need to talk about favorite colors
[21:23] <silverxv> dviola, yeah that matters.
[22:27] <Peetz0rCW> fugee: but seriously, check your logs...  show us a `curl` command that you have used to test and the result, possibly with `curl -I` which only returns headers
[22:27] <Peetz0rCW> wow its got a lot of memory
[22:27] <Peetz0rCW> or an operating system
[22:28] <Peetz0rCW> I'm fairly sure the protocol is irrelevant. the question is about the capability of the hardware to change channels.
[23:43] <garyzeassholeBC> to kill the aids?
[23:43] <garyzeassholeBC> this is copy initialization


[05:01] <mborzecki> morning
[05:54] <mborzecki> mvo: hey
[05:56] <mvo> mborzecki: hey, good morning
[05:56] <mborzecki> mvo: found a bug in snap info, try `snap install hello-world hello-world_foo`, then compare `snap info hello-world` and `snap info hello-world_foo`
[06:01] <mborzecki> mvo: the fix is super simple so no big deal
[06:01] <mvo> nice
[06:02] <mborzecki> mvo: also this request sounds sane https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feature-request-link-to-store-page-in-snap-info/12838
[06:04] <mvo> indeed
[06:07] <mborzecki> i'll open PRs for both in a bit
[06:08] <mvo> ta
[06:16] <mup> PR snapd#7274 closed: tests: change cgroups so that LXD doesn't have to <Created by zyga> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7274>
[06:38] <mup> PR snapd#7257 closed: packaging: fix symlink for snapd.session-agent.socket <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7257>
[06:51] <mborzecki> surprisingly the hardest part of the fix is figuring out the whitspace in channel output and disabling whitespace-cleanup :/
[06:53] <mup> PR snapd#7275 opened: cmd/snap: fix remote snap info for parallel installed snaps <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7275>
[06:54] <mborzecki> mvo: ^^
[06:56] <mvo> mborzecki: thanks, looking
[06:56] <mup> PR snapd#7124 closed: many: create system-usernames user/group if both don't exist <Created by jdstrand> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7124>
[07:01] <mvo> I just branched 2.41 locally
[07:03] <pstolowski> morning
[07:03] <mborzecki> pstolowski: hey
[07:13] <mvo> hey pstolowski
[07:19] <zyga> good morning
[07:19] <zyga> sorry for being late, Lucy is very active today and I had to help more
[07:19] <pstolowski> o/
[07:19] <zyga> hey :)
[07:20]  * zyga runs TW updates
[07:20] <mvo> hey zyga
[07:20] <zyga> good morning, how are you doing todayt?
[07:21] <mvo> zyga: good, a bit sleepy but good, today is 2.41~pre1 day!
[07:21] <zyga> excellent, time to roll those releases :)
[07:36] <mborzecki> zyga: hey
[07:36] <zyga> :)
[07:36]  * zyga fights gnome-shell
[07:37] <mborzecki> zyga: the year of linux desktop
[07:37] <zyga> I can either get 100% scaling and background or 200% scaling and solid white background
[07:37] <zyga> in x mode, in wayland the resolution is stuck but I have background
[07:37] <mborzecki> zyga: ui scaling?
[07:37] <zyga> yeah
[07:38] <mborzecki> heh
[07:39] <zyga> hey pedronis, good morning
[07:39] <mborzecki> zyga: fwiw, who needs to look at the background ;) all my windows are full screen
[07:39] <zyga> mborzecki: white BG at 500 nits can hurt
[07:40] <mborzecki> zyga: it's called front camera flash in smartphones :)
[07:41] <mborzecki> pedronis: hi, opened the PR with renames yday, https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7273 in case you want to look, or i can poke others for reviews
[07:41] <mup> PR #7273: gadget, overlord/devicestate: rename Position/Layout <Gadget update> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7273>
[07:43] <pedronis> mborzecki: I'll do a quick scan
[07:44] <mborzecki> pedronis: thanks!
[07:49] <pedronis> mborzecki: made a couple of remarks, about fields
[07:49] <pedronis> let me know if they make sense
[07:50] <pedronis> or not
[07:55] <mborzecki> pedronis: s/StructureLayout/Layout/ sounds fine, but s/ContentLayout/Content/ is tricky, VoluemContent already has a field named Content, maybe RawContentLayout/RawLayout would work?
[07:56] <pedronis> mborzecki: why is tricky?
[07:56] <pedronis> (I'm missing something here)
[07:59] <pedronis> mborzecki: what is your worry?
[07:59] <mborzecki> pedronis: LaidOutStructure embeds *VolumeStructure which alreay has a field named Content (that describes all content, raw and filesystem), thus suggestion to use Raw(Content,Layout) which is only present for raw content anyway
[08:01] <pedronis> mborzecki: no, then the boring LaidOutContent is probably my preference
[08:02] <mborzecki> pedronis: haha, boring works for me too :)
[08:11] <mup> PR snapd#7276 opened: cmd/snap: include snapcraft.io page URL in snap info output <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7276>
[08:12] <mborzecki> zyga: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2019-08/msg00011.html
[08:12] <zyga> yeah, I saw that earlier
[08:17] <zyga> brb
[08:20] <zyga> geez, my son is still sleeping
[08:41] <mborzecki> Chipaca: thanks for the reviews, is default store check only possible within snapd?
[08:42] <Chipaca> mborzecki: needs a device auth context i think
[08:46] <Chipaca> mborzecki: meaning, yeah
[08:46] <mborzecki> Chipaca: ok, then the store-url could be added to the snapd api on /v2/snaps/<snap>
[08:46] <Chipaca> mborzecki: yes
[08:46] <Chipaca> mborzecki: would be even nicer if it came from remote
[08:47]  * zyga quick breakfast
[08:49] <mborzecki> Chipaca: heh ;)
[08:50] <mup> PR snapd#7275 closed: cmd/snap: fix remote snap info for parallel installed snaps <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7275>
[08:51] <zyga> re
[08:59] <Chipaca> mborzecki: #1840751 FWIW
[09:00] <mup> Bug #1840751: Please include store-url when it exists <Snap Store:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840751>
[09:00] <mborzecki> Chipaca: thank you!
[09:17] <zyga> yay, I think I'm down to 0 leaks on all classic systems
[09:17] <zyga> core seems to leak something odd
[09:17] <zyga> not snaps visible in snap list
[09:17] <zyga> but actual mounted squashes and loopback devices
[09:17] <zyga> I have three cleanup patches upcoming, just let the classic run finish again
[09:17] <zyga> and looking at core, core tests don't overlap with classic fully so I bet there are some I just didn't look at
[09:22] <pedronis> mvo: I hope I fixed 7135, not quite sure what happened with that assertion
[09:30] <mup> PR snapcraft#2671 opened: docker: remove snapcraft-wrapper <Created by abitrolly> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2671>
[09:32] <mvo> pedronis: thanks
[09:39] <mup> PR snapcraft#2672 opened: docker: use apt-get to avoid warnings <Created by abitrolly> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2672>
[09:41] <zyga> re
[09:42] <mup> PR snapd#7277 opened: [RFC] overlord/snapstate: fix undo on firstboot seeding <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7277>
[09:44] <pstolowski> pedronis: ^ a high-level ack/nack on the apporach would be great
[09:45] <pstolowski> *approach
[09:49] <pstolowski> zyga: sorry for pestering... #7081 waves at you ;)
[09:49] <mup> PR #7081: ifacestate: optimize auto-connect by setting profiles once after all connects <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7081>
[09:49] <zyga> indeed, after this call I'll jump right in
[09:51] <mup> PR snapcraft#2673 opened: Single dockerfile <Created by abitrolly> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2673>
[10:05] <pedronis> pstolowski: btw, there are still a couple of things to do here: https://trello.com/c/yxC3omC9/245-snap-snapctl-unset-support
[10:05] <pstolowski> pedronis: yes, i saw your comment, thanks, i'm on it
[10:17] <mborzecki> Chipaca: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sFtP2kQ5M6/ not sure about the part that finds whether it's a custom store or not
[10:23] <pedronis> mborzecki: I think we shouldn't do anything until we have store support
[10:26] <mup> PR snapd#7031 closed: debian: re-enable systemd environment generator <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7031>
[10:28] <mborzecki> pedronis: yeah, you're probably right, i'll keep the branch so that the client bits are ready when store updates the api
[10:28] <mup> PR snapd#7278 opened: tests: unmount fusectl after testing <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7278>
[10:29] <mup> PR snapd#7279 opened: tests: restore nsdelegate clobbered by LXD <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7279>
[10:30] <mup> PR snapd#7276 closed: cmd/snap: include snapcraft.io page URL in snap info output <Created by bboozzoo> <Closed by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7276>
[10:47] <mup> PR snapd#7264 closed: packaging/fedora: build on RHEL8 (2.40) <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7264>
[10:52] <mup> PR snapd#7280 opened:  debian: re-enable systemd environment generator (2.41) <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7280>
[10:55]  * zyga coffee
[11:05] <Chipaca> jdstrand, zyga, mvo, fun coffee read: https://lwn.net/Articles/796687/
[11:07] <zyga> Chipaca: I take that and raise https://lwn.net/Articles/796641/
[11:09] <mup> PR snapd#7281 opened: cmd/snap: fix snap unset help string <Simple 😃> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7281>
[11:09] <mvo> Chipaca: nice, that was on my reading list
[11:09] <Chipaca> zyga: fuse tangled into the package manager
[11:09] <mvo> Chipaca: nice to hear that its apparently worth it :)
[11:10] <Chipaca> zyga: what could go wrong?
[11:10] <Chipaca> mvo: :)
[11:10] <zyga> Chipaca: squashfs :)
[11:11] <Chipaca> zyga: fuse pinning a core, but everywhere all the time
[11:11] <Chipaca> and that's when it's working :)
[11:11] <Chipaca> anyway, will read more
[11:15] <Chipaca> mvo: when was core 4486 from?
[11:16] <Chipaca> never mind, over a year old
[11:16]  * Chipaca used 'git log' to get a good enough guess
[11:25] <Chipaca> ok i'm off to look lunch in the face
[12:51] <mup> PR snapd#7247 closed: interfaces/mount: forward SNAPD_DEBUG to ns tools <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <Closed by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7247>
[12:51] <mup> PR snapd#7282 opened: asserts: move Model to its own model.go <Simple 😃> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7282>
[12:59] <diddledan> seems futexes are blocked but silently... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rolINucz/
[12:59] <diddledan> I can't find any mention of seccomp blocking the syscall in /var/log
[13:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#2664 closed: cli: handle exception when cleaning a part with a fresh project <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2664>
[13:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#2666 closed: tests: move meta testing to its own package <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2666>
[13:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#2667 closed: yaml utils: move OctInt from meta <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2667>
[13:06] <Chipaca> mvo: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/08/19/%23snappy.html#t15:08
[13:19] <mup> PR snapd#7283 opened: tests: unmount binfmt_misc on cleanup <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7283>
[13:26] <mup> PR snapd#7278 closed: tests: unmount fusectl after testing <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7278>
[13:41] <zyga> mvo: is this what you mentioned a moment ago?
[13:41] <zyga> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/e89eTfcR/
[13:47] <Chipaca> zyga: what was this about snap info of files?
[13:47] <Chipaca> something to do with The Pope(y)
[13:48] <pedronis> Chipaca: I think we might check if a dir exist before doing anything else, that does unexpected/expected things if you happen to be sitting somewhere with a dir foo which contains snap foo
[13:49] <Chipaca> hmm, i thought i'd checked for that, but … maybe? is there a concrete bad case?
[13:50] <pedronis> Chipaca: it's not a priority either way, please queue it
[13:50] <Chipaca> there is some weird behaviour if you have a directory foo and do 'snap info foo' and foo is an installed snap that the store knows about and the foo directory does not contain a snap
[13:51] <Chipaca> e.g., snap install http go; cd /snap/go/current/src/net; snap info http → no channel map; weird
[13:51] <jdstrand> Chipaca: re lwn> on the agenda for lunch :)
[13:51] <Chipaca> jdstrand: :)
[13:52] <mup> PR snapcraft#2659 closed: Add support for building inside podman containers <Created by abitrolly> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2659>
[13:52] <Chipaca> but, i'd like to know if that is the strangeness or if there's something worse
[13:52] <Chipaca> popey: ^
[13:52] <mvo> zyga: yes
[14:15] <diddledan> jdstrand: I presume futex is being blocked somewhere but I can't find any log: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rolINucz/
[14:22] <mup> PR snapd#7284 opened: tests: clean user and group for test system-usernames-install-twice <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7284>
[14:23] <jdstrand> diddledan: the futex syscall is allowed by default. the man page for futex has some things to say about EPERM. specifically: "(FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI)  The  caller  does not own the lock represented by the futex word" and "(FUTEX_LOCK_PI, FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI, FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE_PI)  The  caller is  not  allowed  to  attach  itself  to the futex at uaddr". you may want to see the man page for more context
[14:23] <diddledan> hmm
[14:24] <jdstrand> for the last point, it also says "(This may be caused by  a state corruption in user space.)
[14:24] <diddledan> I wonder what mycroft is doing that it is failing
[14:24] <jdstrand> "
[14:25] <diddledan> something in the voice/speech part of mycroft is reporting this https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/crszJzeL/
[14:25] <diddledan> so in response I did an strace which only shows futex failing
[14:27] <jdstrand> hmm
[14:27] <diddledan> I'm not sure where that error lies in the mycroft code though, because it's huge :-)
[14:28] <diddledan> mycroft itself is python but it has a few C-like libraries that it calls - I did a bit of research and found references to C++
[14:29] <diddledan> research on the specific error message, I mean
[14:29] <mup> PR snapd#7285 opened: httputil: improve http2 PROTOCOL_ERROR detection <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7285>
[14:31] <jdstrand> diddledan: does it use the preload for the semaphore? it is python multithreading that needs that.... I would've expected a denial. it is possible the kernel is rate limiting it. you could: sudo apparmor_parser -r /var/lib/snapd/apparmor/profiles/snap.mycroft.* ; sudo journalctl --output=short --follow --all | sudo snappy-debug
[14:31] <diddledan> I do launch it with the snapcraft-preload, yes
[14:32] <jdstrand> diddledan: then try again. the reload will cause denials that are being rate limited to show (until they are rate limited again) and the snappy-debug turns off general kernel rate limiting
[14:32] <jdstrand> diddledan: the above might make a denial pop out that was rate limited, so still worth a try
[14:33] <zyga> Chipaca: afk
[14:34] <Chipaca> zyga: ?
[14:35] <ijohnson> thanks Chipaca!
[14:36] <ijohnson> Chipaca: also do you think the unit tests I have there are sufficient or do I need to add more, etc. ?
[14:36] <mup> PR snapd#7286 opened: tests: use images:ubuntu/ in lxd tests <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7286>
[14:37] <ijohnson> (in #7149 that is)
[14:37] <mup> PR #7149: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[14:44] <Chipaca> ijohnson: hmm, i didn't look at coverage
[14:44] <Chipaca> ijohnson: will do in a bit
[14:44] <ijohnson> okay, sounds good
[14:45] <mup> PR snapd#7287 opened: hookstate/ctlcmd: snap unset command <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7287>
[14:47] <Chipaca> hmm
[14:50] <mvo> zyga: fwiw, I think I know why the system-users test is failing, fixing now
[14:57] <zyga> Oh? I’m eager to know
[15:01] <Chipaca> ijohnson: maybe i'm not spotting it: what would cause jsonResult to be true?
[15:02] <Chipaca> ijohnson: in model and serial queries i mean
[15:02] <ijohnson> specifying ?json=true in a REST API call (i.e. not using the CLI)
[15:02] <mvo> zyga: PR will be up in some minutes but its boring :)
[15:03] <Chipaca> ijohnson: thought so. Commented, wrt coverage and other bits and bobs
[15:03] <ijohnson> got it, thanks
[15:03] <Chipaca> ijohnson: I'd accept these to be in a followup fwiw, if it makes this easier to land
[15:04] <Chipaca> it's already quite big
[15:04] <ijohnson> I dunno, what does mvo think?
[15:04] <zyga> re
[15:04] <zyga> Chipaca: sorry, I noticed the message and replied from my phone
[15:04] <zyga> Chipaca, popey: you guys should talk about snap info :)
[15:05] <mvo> ijohnson: I miss some context I think but followup sounds good especially if the pr is already big
[15:05] <mvo> 2.41 is branched so having it in a not 100% state for a tiny bit is not too terrible
[15:06] <ijohnson> mvo: it's PR #7149, not sure if you wanted to make a review pass on that
[15:06] <mup> PR #7149: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[15:06] <ijohnson> IIRC, this wasn't needed for 2.41
[15:07] <mvo> ijohnson: yeah, its fine for .42
[15:07] <ogra> .42 is the answer !
[15:09] <diddledan> is .41 out yet? *ducks the swinging punches*
[15:09] <ijohnson> mvo: so do you want to review that PR as well before landing for 2.42? or am I good to merge once tests are green?
[15:10] <Chipaca> ijohnson: needs two approvals to merge tho
[15:10] <ijohnson> ah I guess Graham only reviewed the help message, I forgot that
[15:15] <mvo> ijohnson: yeah, what john said, needs two +1 :)
[15:27] <mup> PR snapd#7288 opened: tests: cleanup "snap_daemon" user in system-usernames-install-twice <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7288>
[15:29] <zyga> mvo: did you see https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7284
[15:29] <mup> PR #7284: tests: clean user and group for test system-usernames-install-twice <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7284>
[15:29] <mvo> zyga: meh, I did not
[15:30] <zyga> your PR looks more comprehensive :)
[15:30] <zyga> but I didn't look deeper yet
[15:30] <mvo> zyga: yeah, the extrausers bit
[15:31] <mup> PR snapcraft#2669 closed: Plugin catkin: forward parallel build count <Created by artivis> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2669>
[15:36]  * cachio lñunch
[15:42] <mup> PR snapd#7281 closed: cmd/snap: fix snap unset help string <Simple 😃> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7281>
[15:43] <mup> PR snapd#7280 closed:  debian: re-enable systemd environment generator (2.41) <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7280>
[15:50]  * zyga takes a break
[15:50] <zyga> I added service leak detector
[15:51] <zyga> checking for stuff that affects systemd serrvices
[15:51] <zyga> *services
[15:51] <zyga> so looking forward to what the outcome will be
[15:51] <zyga> I'll grab coffee and be back to check
[16:31] <cachio> pstolowski|afk, #7110 updated
[16:31] <cachio> thanks
[16:31] <mup> PR #7110: tests: new test to check the output after refreshing/reverting core <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7110>
[16:35] <mup> PR snapd#7289 opened: tests: ubuntu 18.10 removed from the google-sru backend on the spread.yaml <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7289>
[16:49] <zyga> re
[16:50] <mup> PR snapd#7279 closed: tests: restore nsdelegate clobbered by LXD <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7279>
[18:59] <mup> PR snapd#7290 opened: tests: allow test user XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to phase out <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7290>
[19:03]  * cachio afk
[19:07] <mup> PR snapd#7283 closed: tests: unmount binfmt_misc on cleanup <Simple 😃> <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7283>
[19:27] <popey> Zyga Chipaca can we talk about snap info over mail or a bug? Been on a plane for 11 hours
[19:30] <diddledan> where you at this week, popey ?
[19:30] <popey> Arizona
[19:30] <diddledan> \o/
[19:30] <popey> It am hot
[19:31] <diddledan> boo
[19:31] <diddledan> I saw your post earlier about 40degrees
[19:43] <mup> PR snapd#7291 opened: Add new cases into arch_test <Created by ardaguclu> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7291>
[23:07] <mup> PR snapd#7292 opened: interfaces: k8s worker node updates <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7292>
[23:11] <mup> PR snapd#7293 opened: interfaces: k8s worker node updates - 2.41 <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7293>