[04:18] <z3r0_d> the /var/log/Xorg.0.log suggests my issue is that the xorg.conf doesn't have modelines setup for my display, it tries a bunch of resolutions complains hsync out of range, then complains my settings don't have modelines
[04:18] <fabsoft> i dont find the appropriate module parameters ..
[04:18] <redguy> e0f: if you are sure that you need a tftp server I can't help you with tftpd-hpa since I never used it. If you install tftpd it is set up to be run by (x)inetd. You just would have to configure it a bit
[04:19] <e0f> redguy: the problem is very simple, i want to upgrade the firmware of my router, so i donwload on my box a latest firmware, and now i want to move this firmware in my router by tftp, but i don't know in what mode i start tftpd lol
[04:19] <paradizelost> i'm trying to find the equivalent to rc.local or local.startup
[04:19] <redguy> e0f: it is very likely that tftpd-hpa is also run by inetd
[04:19] <redguy> e0f: what is this mode you are reffering to?
[04:19] <fluvvell> sanzky: my brightness works, but the blue number keys with (fn) dont
[04:20] <nalioth> z3r0_d: at a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[04:21] <sanzky> fluvvell, they worked since the  instalation or you did something to make them work?
[04:21] <redguy> e0f: what I am saying is that most propably you don't need the tftp*d*, you just need a tftp client to connect to your router
[04:21] <nima> I cant believe it is so hard to play ONE mp3!... doesnt linux have a program like Windows media player but for linux?
[04:21] <cafuego> nima: Did you INSTALL an mp3 player?
[04:21] <z3r0_d> nalioth: sure, will do
[04:21] <antix> cafuego, xmms?
[04:22] <cafuego> antix: *any*
[04:22] <nalioth> nima: have you been to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   ? you need to set ubuntu up for mp3 playback
[04:22] <redguy> !tell nima about restricted formats
[04:22] <paradizelost> nima: http://ubuntuguide.org
[04:22] <redguy> !tell nima about bmp
[04:22] <redguy> !tell paradizelost about ubuntuguide
[04:23] <e0f> redguy: yep, but tell me how i start tftpd ?
[04:23] <paradizelost> too bad that wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't work.
[04:23] <user1> I want to try to get Oracle to run on Ubuntu. Has anyone tried this?
[04:23] <durt> !ubuntuguide
[04:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[04:23] <paradizelost> now it does....
[04:23] <paradizelost> got a timeout
[04:24] <concept10> is the spamming gone?
[04:24] <nalioth> paradizelost: what?
[04:24] <nalioth> concept10: yes, you can put away your umbrella
[04:24] <concept10> heh
[04:24] <concept10> nalioth: what the hell was that?
[04:24] <cafuego> e0f: tftpf runs from inetd, it is started BY inetd when a packet is received on port .. what is it, 67?
[04:25] <e0f> cafuego: i setup tftpd but i don't find it
[04:25] <cafuego> e0f: /usr/share/doc/tftpd/
[04:25] <cafuego> e0f: read
[04:25] <e0f> thanks man
[04:25] <paradizelost> ubuntuguide may not have explanation, but it works to get everything for dvd playback, mp3 playback, xvid, etc... working on ubuntu
[04:25] <redguy> e0f: in.tftpd -l
[04:25] <nalioth> concept10: was just a clonebot attack (courtesy of wm gates)
[04:25] <fluvvell> sanzky: no, they worked since installation.  Mines a different model though, It's not clear where to look for help on this one
[04:26] <kdibble> smeg backport appears to create .local and .config owned by root instead of real user, can anyone confirm?
[04:26] <Xorlev> Bah, damn flash player. Those huge flash ads that hover over the actual site, but you click the X and it looks fine...but not to me. I see a huge white box.
[04:26] <nalioth> paradizelost: yes, for unix using folks coming to ubuntu, it works great. for new (to *nix) users, it can be quite a road in the wrong direction
[04:26] <cafuego> Xorlev: There is this nice firefox extension that  blocks flash.
[04:26] <sanzky> fluvvell, Ill continue searching, thanks for your time
[04:26] <sanzky> see ya
[04:26] <nalioth> Xorlev: you are really lucky. i had to script my system(s) not to play flash
[04:27] <paradizelost> how do i run a command on system startup,  not looking for something like inittab, but closer to startup.local or something like that.
[04:27] <cafuego> paradizelost: the problem is, people read and paste stuff (as root!) without ever understanding why or what it does.
[04:27] <paradizelost> that is true.
[04:27] <fluvvell> sanzky: good luck, if you find an answer, post it somewhere searchable
[04:27] <robertbb> paradizelost: Stick in an init script in a desired runlevel.
[04:27] <cafuego> paradizelost: That kind of thing shouldn't be encouraged
[04:28] <cafuego> paradizelost: You can plonk it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:28] <z3r0_d> nalioth: yay... much better
[04:28] <paradizelost> k.
[04:31] <moomooboy> FINALLY..
[04:31] <moomooboy> i was asking questions on the other channel :(
[04:32] <moomooboy> n i kept getting spammed >.<
[04:32] <cafuego> which other channel?
[04:32] <moomooboy> #ubuntu-unregister?
[04:32] <moomooboy> anyway i got a question guys/girls
[04:32] <cafuego> ah thanks, i'll join and annoucen (Seveas has gone to bed)
[04:32] <rob^> anyone know why the wheel on my mouse isn't working in breezy?
[04:32] <moomooboy> whats my root password to my ubuntu ><??
[04:33] <Xenguy> !root
[04:33] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:33] <moomooboy> disable?
[04:33] <cafuego> moomooboy: Yes, you don't need it.
[04:33] <Ignignoktt> the uboto knows all
[04:33] <pax_> your root password is what you set it to be, sudo passwd root
[04:33] <redguy> moomooboy: read the wiki
[04:33] <Xenguy> moomooboy: read :-)
[04:33] <Ignignoktt> could anyone help me installing Zsnes in ubuntu?
[04:33] <nalioth> z3r0_d: VESA will drive anything
[04:33] <moomooboy> arent i suppose to type in CLI su?
[04:33] <moomooboy> and then enter the password?
[04:33] <Xenguy> read
[04:34] <moomooboy> so its sudo for ubuntu?
[04:34] <guilhermee> how i update my kubuntu to breezy ?
[04:34] <moomooboy> okok
[04:34] <cafuego> moomooboy: No, 'sudo <command>'
[04:34] <z3r0_d> yeah, its probably what the livecd uses... which is why it worked
[04:34] <cafuego> moomooboy: Then your own password
[04:34] <z3r0_d> for now it is sufficent
[04:34] <pax_> guilhermee: ask in #kubuntu
[04:34] <nalioth> redguy: robertbb: sey yourselves +E and you will cut down on your incoming spam PMs
[04:34] <Xenguy> juanej: please turn that off
[04:34] <guilhermee> pax_, ok
[04:34] <moomooboy> this community rox ^^...
[04:34] <moomooboy> i guess ill start asking how to do perl in here too keke...
[04:35] <cafuego> moomooboy: too right mate
[04:35] <Ignignoktt> could anyone help me with the installation of amule or zsnes?
[04:35] <moomooboy> for my homework hehe.... ^^.. anyone perl master's here ? ^^?
[04:35] <cafuego> i think perl training australia has a mailing list ;-)
[04:36] <moomooboy> ill pay a $1/AUD an hour hehe.. thru paypal hehe.. anyone wanna take the job hahaa... and help me out with perl hehe
[04:36] <moomooboy> umm another question ..
[04:36] <moomooboy> what is eubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:36] <Ignignoktt> edbuntu is for like schools and stuff
[04:36] <Ignignoktt> i think kubuntu is like k12 stuff
[04:36] <pax_> in short kubuntu is unbuntu=KDE
[04:37] <pax_> s/=/+
[04:37] <moomooboy> whats the difference between KDE and GNOME?
[04:37] <moomooboy> they look the same to me?
[04:37] <cafuego> moomooboy: They do?
[04:37] <z3r0_d> natilus and konqueror
[04:38] <nalioth> kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde
[04:38] <moomooboy> i guess i havent really looked into it yet ^^..
[04:38] <moomooboy> ah i see..
[04:38] <nalioth> edubuntu is for educational use
[04:38] <NeoFax> Anyone know why KDE or GNOME do not work in Breezy right now?
[04:38] <nalioth> NeoFax: nothing works in breezy atm
[04:38] <redguy> NeoFax: maybe because Breezy is not radey yet?
[04:38] <nalioth> moomooboy: kde uses the QT toolkit and gnome uses GTK
[04:38] <redguy> s/radey/ready/
[04:39] <NeoFax> I am using fluxbox, but KDE and GNOME error out on can't connect to display""
[04:39] <moomooboy> *blink blink* - opens google.com what is QT toolkit GTK ...
[04:39] <moomooboy> i feel so noob i think ill go read up now ^^..
[04:40] <pfp> http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/desktop_enviroments/  the difference between gnome & kde...
[04:40] <cafuego> moomooboy: they're widget libraries.   Anyone know how to do dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[04:43] <cafuego> moomooboy: I find it easiest to think of them as Gnome emulating MacOS (a bit) and KDE emulating Windows (a bit more)
[04:43] <cafuego> Although soon we have to think of windows emulating fvwm2 (a lot)
[04:43] <pax_> NeoFax: that command is only chose between kdm and gdm
[04:43] <levander`> anybody is using enlightenment 17 yet?
[04:44] <redguy> levander`: is it worth it yet?
[04:44] <pax_> yet?
[04:44] <moomooboy> argghh... easy website easy websites plss.. i need to study the linux slang from you guys...
[04:44] <levander`> redguy: dunno, that's why I'm asking.
[04:44] <moomooboy> i dont know what a fvwm2 is :(
[04:44] <levander`> enlightenment dr16 rocked, at least until it seemed to have gotten dated.
[04:45] <nalioth> moomooboy: yes, cafuego is correct, the gnome folks use the same human-interface-guidelines as apple does, and kde chose to emulate microsofts choice
[04:45] <pax_> ouch, that's harsh!
[04:45] <Ignignoktt> yes i have a problem with installing amule, can anyone help me?
[04:45] <moomooboy> nalioth you make it sounds so easy :).. like i understand what you say ^^..
[04:45] <redguy> Ignignoktt: if you tell us what the problem is we might try to help
[04:46] <moomooboy> nalioth: are you like a teacher by anychance ? :P?
[04:46] <Ignignoktt> redguy: excellent suggestion, but you see this is like my first day, so i just have a bunch of files waiting in a folder to be installed
[04:46] <cafuego> ubotus DB is termporarily going offline
[04:46] <nima> ok i fixed my mp3 but my computer sound doesnt work, i have it through coaxial, it worked with xp!.. do i need to install drivers or something??
[04:47] <moomooboy> what would you guy/girls recommend to use?.. ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:47] <_adam> Is there a faster way to enable all repositories besides adding them one by one through synaptic
[04:47] <NeoFax> pax_: That is what I wanted.  KDM seems to be broken atm in breezy
[04:47] <cafuego> moomooboy: It doesn't matter. Pick oje. You can always install gnome on Kubuntu is you ant and vice versa.
[04:47] <nalioth> moomooboy: the big OS companies commissioned a study to see how we primates would interact with our technology
[04:47] <redguy> Ignignoktt: It seems that you downloaded amule source. Why dont you install it through synaptic?
[04:48] <Ignignoktt> redguy: excellent suggestion, got a link to a howto for me :D
[04:48] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Hello.
[04:48] <Madpilot> cafuego: cold in Oz meaning below 15C? ;)
[04:48] <_adam> How can I enable all repositories easier?
[04:48] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> That's a nice room you put the spambots in. Thanks for that.
[04:48] <redguy> Ignignoktt: since cafeugo brought ubotu down...
[04:48] <_adam> I have the 969 file, as well as synaptic
[04:48] <nalioth> Ignignoktt: synaptic is really simple. system > admin > synaptic
[04:48] <cafuego> Madpilot: It was 2C this morning
[04:48] <cafuego> !test
[04:48] <ubotu> Passed.
[04:49] <cafuego> redguy: you dreamin'
[04:49] <drewfus> im trying to install wine but it says broken packages, any clues?
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> i have figured out much of synaptic allready, i just had no idea you could install it via that
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> ty then
[04:49] <Madpilot> cafuego: OK, 2C is cold even by a Canadian's standards...
[04:49] <redguy> yet another time ubotu makes me look like a fool :/
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> ok i get an error when i try to do it though synaptic
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> amule:
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>   Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-9) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>  Depends: libstdc++6 but it is not going to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>  Depends: libwxgtk2.6-0 but it is not going to be installed
[04:49] <z3r0_d> nalioth: once the hsync and vsync ranges were properly configured the 3dfx driver works properly... well if I ignore a lot of stuff in the xorg.0.log
[04:50] <Ignignoktt> its the same error i get while trying to install amule via root terminal to
[04:50] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> So, I know I've been asking too many questions, But here's another one. Anybody know of a way to set up an Ubuntu system on a disk through a live system and a network connection rather than the install disc?
[04:50] <z3r0_d> [I get the mode I desired]
[04:50] <redguy> Ignignoktt: pate to #flood ot ubuntu.pastebin.com net time please
[04:50] <disasm> heya all, I'm trying breezy out and getting connection to ":0.0" refused by server when i run startx. X starts with the black and white background and cursor, but aside from that, it does nothing, after a while it gives up with xinit: Unable to connect to X Server
[04:50] <nalioth> z3r0_d: ok
[04:50] <drewfus> im trying to install wine but it says broken packages, any clues?
[04:50] <nima> How can i install my Sound / usb2 drivers my cd is for windows ( motherboard cd )
[04:50] <disasm> nima: what chipset?
[04:51] <Ignignoktt> redguy: pasted
[04:51] <zeus1_> umm
[04:51] <disasm> nima: most chipsets just work with linux
[04:51] <nima> Umm its ... K8NS Ultra pro 989 or something
[04:51] <z3r0_d> bye
[04:51] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Again, in good english: My Install discs are broke, can I download files using a live system and place them on the drive?
[04:51] <nima> K8NS Ultra-939
[04:51] <zeus1_> I burned the ubuntu live cd iso and tried to boot from cd and it gave me an error....anyone kno what i did wrong
[04:51] <redguy> Ignignoktt: it seems that you have non ubuntu repositories in your sources.list file. can you paste it as well?
[04:52] <Ignignoktt> redguy, wil get right on it
[04:52] <nima> and yea it works but my coaxial Cable doesnt work ( for audio ) it worked in windows ! .. ?
[04:52] <benplaut> anyone here know how to set up ubuntu on a Windows domain so it can login and access the roaming profile?
[04:52] <Madpilot> zeus1_: did you md5sum check the ISO before you burned it?
[04:52] <nalioth> zeus1_: check the md5 sums on the iso image and the cdr
[04:52] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus any number of things, first though, I'd like to ask if you md5sum'ed the iso, and did you burn at the correct speed?
[04:52] <Ignignoktt> redguy: posted
[04:53] <zeus1_> I burned at 8x....but i did not md5
[04:53] <zeus1_> and i verifyed files in nero
[04:53] <_adam> in synaptic, does it sometimes take a long time to "prepare packages" when installing 5 or so of them?
[04:53] <redguy> Ignignoktt: Is that all??
[04:53] <drewfus> can someone help me install wine?
[04:53] <redguy> !info amule
[04:53] <Ignignoktt> yess it is
[04:53] <nalioth> zeus1_: burn slower, check iso md5 b4 burning
[04:53] <dabar> I have x11forwarding yes set in the sshd_config file, but its not possible to connect with ssh -X, nor to -Y, I get an error.  --- /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/dbernar1/.Xauthority ---
[04:53] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[04:53] <Ignignoktt> redguy: yes it is
[04:53] <zeus1_> where is the md5 sum
[04:53] <redguy> !tell Ignignoktt about repos
[04:54] <zeus1_> wait i mean
[04:54] <zeus1_> i found it
[04:54] <nima> what is best FTP program for linux as well?
[04:54] <zeus1_> but how do i check
[04:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_ it is in the cd right above allt he other folders.
[04:54] <Ignignoktt> redguy: should i remove the repos that i have added
[04:54] <cafuego> !test
[04:54] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:54] <Madpilot> nima: you can do some FTP stuff right from Nautilus (the file manager) or there's gFTP
[04:54] <cafuego> okay, sql update succeeded.
[04:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  I have no clue.
[04:54] <nalioth> nima: try gftp
[04:54] <zeus1_> everyones telling me to check the md5 sum....but how do i do it
[04:54] <redguy> Ignignoktt: read the link ubotu sent you and make your sources.list like these. amule is in the universe repository
[04:54] <codomaniac> what is libjpeg part of ?
[04:55] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Hey, one more time, does anybody know how to run from a live cd and install a fresh system on one of the mounted drives?
[04:55] <nalioth> zeus1_: where you d/l the iso image from has another link to 'md5sums'
[04:55] <CxfusionX> just a quick question: does the server-expert install include gnome?
[04:55] <nalioth> zeus1_: on your puter you have a program called md5
[04:55] <zeus1_> I kno I see it
[04:55] <zeus1_> I do
[04:55] <nalioth> run md5 on your iso image or mounted cdr and compare to the sums on the d/l site
[04:56] <Ebowles> um...where's my desktop? lol
[04:56] <nima> ok it worked gftp can i put that on my applications list?? how can i ?
[04:56] <redguy> Ignignoktt: if that was your *whole* sources.list file it means that you have disabled all ubuntu repositories. No security updates, no nothing.
[04:56] <Ebowles> I click the "hide all windows and show desktop" button, and it minimized everything, but my desktop is blank
[04:56] <_adam> Can someone Help me really quick?
[04:56] <nalioth> nima: it should be in your menu under "internet"
[04:56] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, are you using linux for the first time, and looking for the folder to save things to? or are you blinded by the light?
[04:56] <redguy> Ignignoktt: read the synaptic wiki as well if you haven't read it already
[04:56] <darkheart> _adam I command you to ask.
[04:57] <Ebowles> CrysCrysCrysCrys - no, just never encoutered this issue before
[04:57] <zeus1_> i dont see a prog called "md5"
[04:57] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ebowles, can you see the background?
[04:57] <drewfus> can anyone help me with wine
[04:57] <Ebowles> Yes
[04:57] <Ebowles> I can't right click and make folders or anything though
[04:57] <_adam> you know that 969 file?
[04:57] <x_or> How can you debug something running as a cron job.  It appears these things are not running properly.
[04:57] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, did you have icons on you desktop before?
[04:57] <redguy> drewfus: if it's a good wine, sure
[04:57] <CxfusionX> err does the server-expert install of ubuntu include gnome?
[04:57] <Ebowles> Yes
[04:58] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Wow. that sucks.
[04:58] <drewfus> :-) installing the ap
[04:58] <nalioth> zeus1_: it's a terminal program
[04:58] <_adam> Can someone message me
[04:58] <redguy> CxfusionX: most likely not.
[04:58] <nima> nope it didnt go there nalioth but if i go run application and write gftp it comes ( progam comes )
[04:58] <drewfus> redguy: im new to linux so youd know better than me if its a good wine
[04:58] <pfp> Ebowles: maybe nautilus has died (if you're using gnome), try opening Places -> home folder
[04:58] <nalioth> _adam: yes we know the 969 file. whats up?
[04:58] <CxfusionX> oh ok thats allright then, thanks
[04:58] <_adam> Do I have to add them all one by one
[04:58] <zeus1_> What.....I did a search and I dont see md5 program
[04:58] <nalioth> nima: that is unusual, for it now to show up in the menu
[04:59] <Ebowles> pfp, I just drew that conclusion, how do I restart nautilus?
[04:59] <Ignignoktt> redguy: ty man, succesful installation, your like a noobs god
[04:59] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, no clue. I'd assume it's freezing, but I have no clue.
[04:59] <nima> maybe i have to restart nalioth?
[04:59] <Madpilot> nima: Applications menu - Internet - gFTP
[04:59] <nalioth> _adam: you can copy and paste it all at once, if you desire
[04:59] <nima> yea it didtn come up ! ...
[04:59] <_adam> Where
[04:59] <nalioth> nima: shouldn't have to restart for anything less than a kernel upgrade
[04:59] <nima> its not there but if i go runa pplication and type gftp it works
[04:59] <redguy> Ignignoktt: hah, I didn't write those wikis you know :-)
[04:59] <Ignignoktt> all i need now is an amuel server to join
[04:59] <zeus1_> Where is the md5 prog
[04:59] <zeus1_> on windows
[04:59] <darkheart> _adam /etc/apt/sources.list, and next time just ask your question =)
[04:59] <pfp> Ebowles: it should start when you open something from the Places menu, if not, applications - run -> type "nautilus"
[04:59] <Ebowles> ah, I had to force quit nautilus
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> it works now?
[05:00] <Ebowles> yea
[05:00] <Ebowles> thanks for your help!
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> awesome for you dude.
[05:00] <redguy> drewfus: i might try to help you, though i hadn't much lick with wine. What dou you want to run?
[05:00] <drewfus> an ftp program
[05:00] <nalioth> zeus1_: you'll have to search one out. try www.freewarehome.com
[05:00] <drewfus> i cant find a linux ftp that will work for what i need it
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Last time now, then I'm assuming there is no solution.
[05:01] <drewfus> but i know a windows ftp that will work
[05:01] <_adam> Where can I input them all
[05:01] <Madpilot> drewfus: gFTP isn't great, but it should work - what do you want to do?
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, did you say you need an ftp program for windows?
[05:01] <drewfus> connect to my xbox
[05:01] <rimu> no, he needs an md5 checking app
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> cuz I think ie does that.
[05:01] <redguy> drewfus: hrm... don't know anything about networking in wine..
[05:01] <nalioth> _adam: you back up your existing sources.list and copy the one you see at 969 in its place
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> did you check freenode?
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I meant sourceforge
[05:01] <_adam> How do I do that
[05:02] <drewfus> well what other ftp clients are good
[05:02] <zeus1_> no i didnt crycryscryscryscryscryscrys
[05:02] <nima> Why the hell doesnt my sound work :(
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: I've upped mysql to 4.1 and set the max connections to 512. If it still breaks, I swear, it's the bot, not mysql.
[05:02] <rimu> welcome to the jungle, nima....
[05:02] <pfp> drewfus: ncftp is nice, if youre comfortable w/ cmd line apps
[05:02] <nalioth> cafuego: time for a new bot?
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: such as?
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: I'm not running an eggdrop.
[05:02] <drewfus> oh thats why i couldnt get it to work
[05:03] <nalioth> nima: wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:03] <cafuego> drewfus: lftp works fine.
[05:03] <drewfus> il ltry that
[05:03] <nalioth> cafuego: i have no idea on bots (i personally dislike them)
[05:03] <drewfus> also samba wont install correctly
[05:03] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  sourceforge.net I check there first for programs, especially simple ones like md5
[05:03] <redguy> drewfus: gftp didn't work for you? try nautilus perhaps?
[05:03] <vladuz976> ubuntu hoary has gcc 3.4?
[05:04] <redguy> drewfus: propably because you have backports enabled in sources.list
[05:04] <drewfus> nautilus?
[05:04] <cafuego> !info gcc hoary
[05:04] <drewfus> what?
[05:04] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[05:04] <zeus1_> got one
[05:04] <cafuego> !info gcc-3.4 hoary
[05:04] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-9ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 465 kB, Installed size: 4404 kB
[05:04] <nalioth> CrysCrysCrysCrys: he needs a windows md5 proggy
[05:04] <cafuego> vladuz976: Yes, but it's not the default.
[05:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Yeah. I'm mostly a windows user.
[05:04] <_adam> How can I gain access to my sources.list file, it says only owner can access it.
[05:04] <drewfus> redguy: backports?
[05:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> nalioth, They have windows programs, and some windows ports of linux programs.
[05:04] <skora> sudo ^
[05:04] <nalioth> _adam: use sudo
[05:05] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I think.
[05:05] <rimu> _adam
[05:05] <_adam> What is the command?
[05:05] <rimu> use the umm
[05:05] <nalioth> _adam: check your priv msgs
[05:05] <cafuego> _adam: sudo <whatever you were doing before>
[05:05] <rimu> applications->system tools->root terminal
[05:05] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Okay, here goes. I need to download the installation for my computer and configure it using my live cd, cuz I've exhausted my other options. Can I?
[05:05] <NeoFax> How easy is it to change grub and splash_console to 1024x768?
[05:05] <nalioth> rimu: no. root terminal is a vestigial carryover from debian
[05:06] <rimu> oh right
[05:06] <redguy> drewfus: nautilus is the file manager in gnome, you can connect to ftp hosts with ftp://hostname/path
[05:06] <rimu> i've found it works?
[05:06] <zeus1_> OK so....I did the checksum
[05:06] <rimu> meh
[05:06] <zeus1_> and the checksum for the original is 77a1a8be45e0cc93a14c9b9bf00f6648
[05:06] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, where did you find the md5?
[05:06] <nalioth> zeus1_: do they match whats on the website (where you got the iso?)
[05:06] <rimu> zeus: now compare the resulting number that the program told you, with what the web site says it should be
[05:06] <zeus1_> and mine is 77A1A8BE45E0CC93A14C9B9BF00F6648
[05:06] <vladuz976> cafuego, for some reason aptitude finds both
[05:06] <drewfus> im trying to ftp a local connection
[05:06] <redguy> drewfus: can you paste your sources.list file and the output of sudo apt-get install samba to ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[05:06] <zeus1_> so they are the same
[05:06] <zeus1_> same number
[05:06] <nalioth> zeus1_: burn it slower
[05:06] <zeus1_> k
[05:06] <vladuz976> cafuego, so if i have both installed what happens
[05:07] <zeus1_> 4x?
[05:07] <zeus1_> or 8x
[05:07] <redguy> drewfus: so your hostname is propably an IP address
[05:07] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, where did you find the proggy?
[05:07] <nalioth> zeus1_: as slow as you can handle
[05:07] <nalioth> zeus1_: quality over speed
[05:07] <zeus1_> uhh
[05:07] <rimu> go 4
[05:08] <rimu> it'll only take 15 minutes...
[05:08] <zeus1_> http://www.fastsum.com/
[05:08] <zeus1_> i got that 1
[05:08] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> darn.
[05:08] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Actually, thanks.
[05:08] <drewfus> i know the local ip because its on my network but i dont know my routers ip
[05:08] <flodine> anyone running fvwm here?
[05:09] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Okay, I'm gonna have to get creative, then.
[05:09] <redguy> drewfus: what do you need the router ip for?
[05:09] <shefa> ok, I'm back again
[05:09] <zeus1_> and
[05:09] <zeus1_> verify data after burning?
[05:09] <rimu> yeah, why not
[05:09] <zeus1_> ight
[05:09] <drewfus> the host
[05:09] <zeus1_> I did last time...didnt help obviously
[05:09] <rimu> heh
[05:10] <rimu> yeah chances are it's not a burning problem.... but it's worth a shot anyway
[05:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> so, If I want to load a swap partition for use under the system I'm currently running...how?
[05:10] <rimu> by the way.... do you remember what the error message you got was??
[05:10] <drewfus> my samba install is on pastebin
[05:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Like this? mount /dev/sda3 swap?
[05:10] <drewfus> where is the sources.list
[05:10] <redguy> drewfus: you need the router ip for the host? sorry I don't follow
[05:11] <vladuz976> anybody know what "v" means in aptitude
[05:11] <redguy> vladuz976: a virtual package
[05:11] <vladuz976> redguy, what does that mean?
[05:11] <shefa> Seveas: Ok, this is what i did->removed xserver-xorg, x-window-system-core and gdm. After reinstalling ->same problem. Unistalled everything->installed first xserv->bott up OK, installed x-window->boot up OK, installed gdm->boot up FAIL
[05:11] <drewfus> ftp://hostname/path the path is the devices location on the network right
[05:12] <drewfus> whats the hostname
[05:12] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the GRUB loader using a win98 bootdisk?
[05:12] <shefa> Any idea why is that
[05:12] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ryguy why would you?
[05:12] <redguy> vladuz976: that is a package which doesn't install anything by itself, but has dependencies which install other packages
[05:12] <nalioth> shefa: Seveas has gone somewhere, and i'm frankly out of ideas
[05:12] <drewfus> redguy, where is sources.list
[05:12] <ryguy1233> because i took off ubuntu (dual boot) the other day at my brothers request
[05:13] <ryguy1233> and now i get error 22 from GRUB
[05:13] <drewfus> redguy, what would my host name be
[05:13] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> redguy, so then it would be a package that just installs a group of packages?
[05:13] <redguy> drewfus: no, hostname is the ip of the ftp server (the xbox i presume) and the path is the path on the ftp server
[05:13] <redguy> CrysCrysCrysCrys: yup
[05:13] <zeus1_> ok im burning
[05:13] <shefa> nalioth, Ir is really wierd. It doesn't make any sence to me at all
[05:13] <zeus1_> 4x .... verify after install
[05:13] <nalioth> shefa: nor to me
[05:13] <zeus1_> md5 was checked to be a-ok
[05:14] <drewfus> redguy, what path, like the drive?
[05:14] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  yay for zeus.
[05:14] <nalioth> shefa: do you have multiple cd burners?
[05:14] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> anybody know how to mount drives?
[05:14] <vladuz976> hi, i've got automake 1.7 at the time, i wonder why apt or aptitude doesn't update it automatically
[05:14] <shefa> nalioth, Now the log in screen is KUBUNTU. I'm pretty sure that if i install gdm, it will stall again. For now, my system is running even faster than before
[05:14] <redguy> drewfus: try ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/   where  <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip of your xbox
[05:15] <drewfus> redguy,  in the file browser?
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: so you're running kdm and kubuntu?
[05:15] <shefa> nalioth, nop, I have burner as primer, and a DVD reader as secondary
[05:15] <redguy> drewfus: and sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <redguy> drewfus: yup
[05:15] <ryguy1233> is seveas in here?
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: great! boot the livecd in the dvd drive and burn off your $HOMEDIR onto the cd-burner
[05:15] <nalioth> ryguy1233: seveas is not here
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: then reinstall
[05:16] <ryguy1233> :-/ he was my helper yesterday
[05:16] <drewfus> Nautilus cannot display
[05:16] <shefa> nalioth, nope, I'm running(from what i see) log in screen kubuntu(kde desktop) but it logs in Gnome and it runs just fine, even faster
[05:16] <nalioth> shefa: well great!
[05:16] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> okay, does anyone know how to create a custom livecd?
[05:16] <redguy> drewfus: waht was that program you wanted to run in wine?
[05:16] <drewfus> FlashFXP
[05:17] <shefa> nalioth, Thanks a million man. You were a great help. I appreciate it a lot
[05:17] <ryguy1233> grub loader anyone?
[05:17] <zeus1_> what
[05:17] <drewfus> redguy, now both my sources and the samba install are on pastebin
[05:17] <nalioth> ryguy1233: ask your question
[05:17] <nalioth> ryguy1233: someone may know something
[05:18] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ryguy1233, you still trying to delete your grub?
[05:18] <ryguy1233> seveas told me to use a win98 bootdisk to remove the grub loader (using fdisk/mbr) and when i tried it today i got the error invalid system disk
[05:18] <zeus1_> Im at thrizzle thirzzle percizzle
[05:18] <rimu> crys: mount drives using the mount command
[05:18] <zeus1_> (33%)
[05:18] <rimu> look it up in man
[05:18] <nalioth> ryguy1233: then you need to make another floppy
[05:18] <ryguy1233> i got it from bootdisk.com
[05:18] <rsgill> i need help!!
[05:18] <redguy> drewfus: ok, let's try with that one :-)
[05:19] <rimu> ie 'man mount'
[05:19] <ryguy1233> and i did windows 98 and win98 SE
[05:19] <ryguy1233> so its the floppy thats busted?
[05:19] <nalioth> ryguy1233: or you could try "the ultimate boot disk"
[05:19] <rsgill> upgraded to breezy amd64 and now when i login i get a .dmrc error
[05:19] <drewfus> redguy, with FlashFXP?
[05:19] <nalioth> ryguy1233: that msg indicated the floppy wasn't right
[05:19] <ryguy1233> how? and that will have the same effect?
[05:19] <rsgill> no answer to this request on the mailng lists
[05:19] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I think you can do it from the 98 repair disc, if that's what you mean, but I'd suggest that in the mean time, I'd reinstall grub again.
[05:20] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> never mind.
[05:20] <nalioth> ryguy1233: the ubd is a cdrom image chock loaded with all kinds of nice things
[05:20] <cafuego> rsgill: breezy amd64 is broken
[05:20] <atomic_UE> Is there a boot.iso or other minimal iso that I can use to install Ubuntu from the hdd instead of burning the install iso to CD?
[05:20] <ryguy1233> ok, and will i still find the fdisk/mbr on that? and to find it i should just google it?
[05:21] <Ignignoktt> this is a total n00b question, but i cant seem to find where amule saved my files, can anyone help?
[05:21] <nalioth> ryguy1233: try this http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:21] <nima> if i cant fix my sound i'm soo going to install windows again! .. computer with no sound ! .. mehh
[05:21] <redguy> drewfus: no, I meant samba. Your last two lines in /etc/sources.list are the backport repositories. In order to install samba you might want to put a # before them
[05:21] <cafuego> nima: are you threatening your computer?
[05:22] <drewfus> redguy, ok ill do that
[05:22] <nima> LoLLLLLLLl
[05:22] <pfp> heh
[05:22] <nalioth> ryguy1233: yes, it will take care of your mbr, i believe
[05:22] <redguy> drewfus: after that do sudo apt-get update
[05:22] <nalioth> cafuego: and a VILE threat, too
[05:22] <vader1102> cafuego; I had to install win server 2003 on my desktop pc for my studies.......yuk
[05:22] <nima> is there umm .. look i think it might be because i need to install my motherboard drivers and stuff but linux dont read the cd coz there for windows ! ..
[05:22] <nima> wat can i do ! .. ?
[05:23] <BodaicousB> can anyone tell me how to make cedega stop giving me LANG=en_US errors?
[05:23] <drewfus> redguy, whats the terminal command to open sources up to edit
[05:24] <cafuego> nima: 1) Make sure your hardware is supported by the kernel.
[05:24] <ryguy1233> msg/ nalioth im using linspire livecd, will i be able to burn the ubd with that in
[05:24] <drewfus> redguy, nevermind
[05:24] <ryguy1233> well nevermind, i have two cd drives
[05:24] <nima> how do i do that cafuego?
[05:24] <nalioth> ryguy1233: do you have 2 burning drives?
[05:25] <zeus1_> gahhh....4x speed is so SLOOOW
[05:25] <ryguy1233> i could run linspire from the dvd-rom and burn the ubd in the burner, correct?
[05:25] <Ignignoktt> i have 2 questions, first off i cannot find the directory in which my amule songs are being downloaded, and i cannot find the directory where zsnes was installed, any help?
[05:25] <cafuego> nima: google would be a good start
[05:25] <nalioth> zeus1_: quality over convenience
[05:25] <Ignignoktt> nm, forget the zsnes problem
[05:26] <zeus1_> ya i guess ur right
[05:26] <zeus1_> hopefully this will work
[05:26] <drewfus> redguy, ok im updated
[05:27] <ryguy1233> i was looking at the contents of the cd.. looks like there are three types of fdisk (XFDISK and SPFDISK and free FDISK) does it matter which one?
[05:28] <redguy> drewfus: try sudo apt-get install samba now
[05:28] <nalioth> ryguy1233: i only have experience with free fdisk
[05:28] <nalioth> ryguy1233: read the info on each one. they all should do the thing you desire
[05:29] <ryguy1233> k... one more question... i clicked on the link to the site and it said it supports 128BG harddrives... i blieve mine is about 130GB will that matter?
[05:29] <redguy> drewfus: is it working now?
[05:29] <drewfus> ok i got samba and smbfs
[05:30] <drewfus> now where is samba
[05:30] <nalioth> ryguy1233: should'nt matter at all
[05:30] <nalioth> ryguy1233: you're only cleaning the /mbr
[05:30] <ryguy1233> k, oh my gosh, wish me luck
[05:30] <ryguy1233> thank you for all of your help
[05:31] <zeus1_> woot done writing....time to verify
[05:31] <nalioth> ryguy1233: np, just come back in here and help someone else
[05:31] <ryguy1233> absolutly
[05:31] <redguy> drewfus: cool, back to the ftp problem then. you might want to try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in nautilus
[05:32] <kumakun> Yikes. What a pain getting in here tonight.
[05:32] <vader1102> lol
[05:32] <redguy> drewfus: where is samba?
[05:33] <drewfus> redguy,  yeah i dont see it anywehre, how do i use it
[05:33] <drewfus> redguy, still cannot display
[05:34] <nima> wats winrar program for linux called
[05:34] <zeus1_> im so close to linux i can almost taste it
[05:35] <redguy> drewfus: depends on what you want to do with it: if you want to browse windows shares only you didn't need samba in the first place. if you want to share folders it's another thing
[05:35] <nalioth> nima: unrar-nonfree
[05:35] <drewfus> redguy, no i need other computers to be able to browse my extra hard drive
[05:36] <remyforbes777>   hello
[05:36] <zeus1_> ok its done burning
[05:36] <zeus1_> wish me luck u guys
[05:36] <svu__> any chance to get libsvg-cairo in ubuntu?
[05:37] <nima> also that ftp program didnt work for my xbox needs ne other ones
[05:37] <drewfus> nima, i think we are having the same problem
[05:37] <nima> and.. is that unrar-nonfree meant to come up in my applications ?
[05:37] <klepas> anyone know when breezy is scheduled to come out?
[05:37] <klepas> :-)
[05:38] <nima> drewfus u tryin to connect to ur xbox? i used to do it all the time in windows / i modded xbox ext.. now im startin out in linux ! ..
[05:38] <apswartz> Isn't Breezy scheduled for october
[05:38] <drewfus> nima, yeah its horrible i cant watch movies on xbmc
[05:38] <nalioth> nima: no, it is a console app, but it will be used by ark or file-roller (these are gui programs)
[05:38] <nalioth> klepas: in october
[05:38] <redguy> drewfus: pff, you could install swat and enter localhost:901 in your web browser to set up samba
[05:38] <klepas> w00t
[05:38] <klepas> thanks
[05:39] <drewfus> redguy, ill try that, is swat in synaptic
[05:39] <redguy> drewfus: yup
[05:39] <redguy> drewfus: it'a a part of the samba-suite, so it might be already installed
[05:39] <drewfus> nima, so let me know if you figure something out
[05:40] <nima> ok u let me know 2 ;)
[05:40] <nima> also nalioth i still cnat open my rar files ! ..
[05:40] <nima> even after installing it  !..
[05:40] <dabar> -!
[05:40] <redguy> drewfus: as for your ftp problem I would advise you to try with gftp and/or looking on google, since I can't think of anything that might be wrong
[05:41] <nima> brb
[05:41] <drewfus> redguy, it refused my localhost
[05:41] <zeus1_> it didnt work
[05:41] <zeus1_> I burned at slowest speed possible
[05:41] <zeus1_> checked the md5 sum and still error
[05:42] <nima> yea same drefus how are u connected to xbox ?
[05:42] <nima> cable from pc 2 xbox ?
[05:42] <BodaicousB> can anyone tell me how to make cedega stop giving me "For language 'en' several language ids were found:"
[05:42] <redguy> http://localhost:901/ ,leave the localhost as it is
[05:42] <redguy> drewfus: ^
[05:42] <rimu> bummer
[05:42] <rimu> o well
[05:42] <drewfus> redguy, still not working
[05:43] <rimu> you might like to try another distro
[05:43] <nalioth> zeus1_: what is it (not) doing?
[05:43] <zeus1_> it keeps giving me an error!
[05:43] <rimu> yeah, what's the error message!
[05:43] <zeus1_> I told the bios to boot from cd
[05:43] <zeus1_> it said something like "boot failed insert system disk"
[05:43] <rimu> hahaha
[05:43] <dabar> -!
[05:43] <rimu> i tihnk i know what it is.....
[05:43] <zeus1_> ya
[05:43] <zeus1_> what
[05:43] <rimu> you can't just burn the file you downloaded onto the CD....
[05:43] <nima> Hey Drewfus how u connected to xbox?
[05:44] <zeus1_> u cant?
[05:44] <zeus1_> i burned the iso
[05:44] <rimu> do you know what a cd image is?
[05:44] <dabar> how? as an .iso file on the CD, or several directories?
[05:44] <dabar> whats on the CD?
[05:44] <zeus1_> just the iso
[05:44] <Ignignoktt> hello, i hate to bother you wondefull people again, but i cant find the folder where amule saves my mp3's? can anyone help
[05:44] <rimu> well there you go....
[05:44] <redguy> drewfus: you sure you have swat installed?
[05:44] <drewfus> nima, im not
[05:44] <rimu> you have just put the file on the CD... that's now what an ISO is intended for
[05:44] <dabar> ok, well, that is a CD image, rimu, tell zeus1 about cdImage;)
[05:45] <dabar> like you were a bot, get it?
[05:45] <drewfus> redguy, yes its green on synaptic
[05:45] <durt> !amule
[05:45] <ubotu> durt: No idea
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, /home/*yourusername*/.amule
[05:45] <rimu> do you know what a zip file is?
[05:45] <zeus1_> yes...
[05:45] <nima> What u mean ur not?? I mean like Cable from pc --> xbox ?
[05:45] <rimu> right. an iso is kiiiinda like a zip file
[05:45] <rimu> only with no compression
[05:45] <Ignignoktt> i dont have that folder bodaciosb
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, go to that directry and "ls"
[05:45] <Madpilot> Ignignoktt: you could file search for "*.mp3" - under Places menu - Find File
[05:45] <zeus1_> so how fix
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, its a hidden folder
[05:45] <Ignignoktt> k
[05:45] <Xorlev> ls -a shows hidden folders.
[05:45] <rimu> you need to use the ISO to recreate a CD
[05:45] <nalioth> durt: you want to say "!info amule"
[05:45] <drewfus> nima, oh, xbox to router to pc through ethernet cable
[05:45] <rimu> umm.
[05:45] <rimu> i think
[05:46] <dabar> zeus1_: if its a cdr, no how. if it is a cdrw, reburn, are you ins windows?
[05:46] <Madpilot> Ctrl+H to show hidden files in Nautilus
[05:46] <nalioth> zeus1_: what program are you using to burn the cd?
[05:46] <zeus1_> Nero
[05:46] <rimu> in nero you have to somehow open up the iso and use that as the source
[05:46] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, if you using ubuntu, and not Kubuntu, hit view, and show hidden files
[05:46] <rimu> look it up in nero's help area
[05:46] <rimu> look for 'cd image' or 'burn from image' or 'burn from iso'
[05:46] <remyforbes777> you can double click on the iso imag
[05:46] <nalioth> zeus1_: you can select "burn image" or something and select your .iso
[05:46] <zeus1_> damn it...wasted 3 cd's then...
[05:46] <rimu> that sorta t hing
[05:46] <durt> !iso
[05:46] <ubotu> No idea, durt
[05:46] <dabar> zeus1_: that is simple, also, tehre is online docs, ya, burn from image, or so.
[05:46] <rimu> yeah, you did :)
[05:46] <nalioth> durt: like this
[05:46] <redguy> drewfus: wait a sec, gonna see on my box
[05:46] <dabar> !tell durt about msg the bot.
[05:46] <nalioth> !info amule
[05:46] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[05:46] <remyforbes777> what sre you using zeus
[05:47] <zeus1_> Nero
[05:47] <Xorlev> rimu: In Konqueror, you can also put a trailing slash and a period to show the hidden files in the dropdown.
[05:47] <klepas> just out of interest - is anyone here from the ubuntu-art or ubuntu-doc team? :-)
[05:47] <remyforbes777> if you are using roxio you can double click on the iso image
[05:47] <nalioth> klepas: what do you need?
[05:47] <Ignignoktt> thank you all
[05:47] <klepas> hold on
[05:47] <Ignignoktt> thank u all
[05:47] <durt> oh... sorry then
[05:47] <remyforbes777> i dont know if nero does that also
[05:47] <remyforbes777> but it probably does
[05:47] <dabar> klepas, the op there works on the documentation.
[05:47] <Discipulus> heh
[05:47] <Discipulus> what happened to #ubuntu?
[05:47] <remyforbes777> but in nero you have the option to burn an image
[05:48] <rimu> some sorta spamming bot
[05:48] <rob^> klepas, yes
[05:48] <dabar> durt, thats ok, you did not know
[05:48] <klepas> I'm interested in helping out in those respects
[05:48] <Discipulus> well, #ubuntu-unregged
[05:48] <nalioth> Discipulus: what happened when?
[05:48] <zeus1_> oh
[05:48] <zeus1_> oh
[05:48] <zeus1_> I see
[05:48] <remyforbes777> inside that iso image are more files
[05:48] <Discipulus> who's spamming us?
[05:48] <dabar> which is better than were you blind. which is also ok.
[05:48] <Discipulus> anyone know?
[05:48] <klepas> I've added myself to the mailing lists
[05:48] <remyforbes777> those are the files that your computer is looking for to boot from
[05:48] <dabar> Discipulus: noone is spamming us right now, except maybe you:)
[05:49] <rob^> Discipulus, set +E on yourself
[05:49] <cyphase> does anyone have any tips for using a webcam in ubuntu?
[05:49] <cyphase> it's an Intel Pro Shar WebCam in my case
[05:49] <fabsoft> xawtv
[05:49] <dabar> cyphase: the wiki has some, I think.
[05:50] <cyphase> k, thanx
[05:50] <fabsoft> u need also kernel driver works
[05:50] <Discipulus> rob^, I have
[05:50] <Discipulus> rob^, what's +C do?
[05:50] <fabsoft> see video4linux or v4l
[05:50] <rob^> Discipulus, dunno, but +E will stop unregistered nicks from pming you
[05:51] <dabar> ah, so someone is pming. I guess I have that by default on, so I never noticed...
[05:51] <durt> yes! i have disable the touchpad tapping - that was the most annoying thing ever
[05:51] <dabar> for me too.
[05:51] <Madpilot> klepas: there are always people keeping an eye on #ubuntu-doc, so you can join that channel and just ask questions there
[05:51] <jsubl2> on xchat i clicked IRC menu at the top and unchecked auto accept direct chat
[05:52] <klepas> Madpilot: cheers, already there :-)
[05:52] <drewfus> crap i tried using wine to install something but it wouldnt work
[05:52] <drewfus> what good is wine if you cant install something
[05:54] <flodine> anyone got the command to install fvwm
[05:54] <senile_implant> drewfus, wine is beta software
[05:54] <dabar> drewfus: if you are trying to get help, that is not a good way. Best way is to try fixing sdomething yourself, and asking a very simple yes no question. or so...
[05:54] <athlon> how do I see who has logged in to my computer, when and for how long ?
[05:54] <dabar> flodine: install fvwm? do you know how to install anything?
[05:54] <drewfus> i know its beta thats why im not asking for help, just venting
[05:54] <apswartz> athlon: type last
[05:55] <flodine> i just want the terminal command
[05:55] <dabar> exactly.
[05:55] <dabar> oh.
[05:55] <dabar> flodine: sudo aptitude install fvwm
[05:55] <nima> Can someone tell me how to Talk to someone ? Like so it goes red!??
[05:55] <dabar> on IRC nima?
[05:55] <senile_implant> I am trying to add windows to grub. how do I apply the changes after I save my menu.lst file?
[05:56] <drewfus> nima, type their name
[05:56] <nima> yea like wat u did
[05:56] <nima> ohh
[05:56] <durt> nima
[05:56] <nima> hehe ok thanks durt drefus dabar
[05:56] <dabar> senile_implant: update-grub, maybe.
[05:56] <dabar> as root. sudo in ubuntu.
[05:56] <drewfus> nima, it doesnt work if you spell the name wrong though :-)
[05:56] <dabar> welcome, nima:)
[05:56] <zeus1_> Soooo ok
[05:56] <dabar> hehe
[05:56] <zeus1_> I go to nero burning ROM
[05:56] <zeus1_> and load up the iso
[05:56] <dabar> !nicktab
[05:56] <rob^> hey, anyone know a quick way of installing lots of gnome themes at once?
[05:56] <senile_implant> dabar, when I do that, it just saves it as if I didn't make the changes
[05:56] <zeus1_> and select burn compilation right
[05:57] <nima> drewfus i was about to try WINE to install flashfxp
[05:57] <nima> and other xbox needed programs ! ..
[05:57] <drewfus> nima, i couldnt get it to work, you can try though
[05:57] <durt> can smeg or anything edit the places or system menus?
[05:57] <dabar> saves what? rechanges the file?
[05:57] <dabar> durt, try.
[05:57] <nima> ok whered u get wine from?
[05:57] <senile_implant> dabar, yeah it reverts the file on me
[05:57] <drewfus> synaptic
[05:57] <dabar> zeus, use the wizzard.
[05:58] <drewfus> or apt-get
[05:58] <dabar> zeus1_: use the wizzard.
[05:58] <zeus1_> what
[05:58] <dabar> is there a nero wizzard?
[05:58] <athlon> apswartz, thanks
[05:58] <zeus1_> hmm
[05:58] <dabar> taht lets you choose, data CD, audio CD, video CD, burn from image......
[05:58] <zeus1_> h/o
[05:59] <zeus1_> i selected....open files of type .iso
[05:59] <zeus1_> clicked on the ubuntu live cd
[05:59] <zeus1_> and im filling out the options
[05:59] <apswartz> athlon: ur welcome
[06:00] <dabar> zeus1_: go read this page, please: http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm .
[06:00] <nima> i couldnt find it on synaptic drewfus
[06:00] <nima> and wats apt-get ???
[06:00] <dabar> nima, what, wine?
[06:01] <dabar> apt-get is command line synaptic, or so.
[06:01] <nima> yea i found wine - documentation .. wtf documentation dabar
[06:01] <drewfus> nima, just click search and type in wine
[06:01] <dabar> nima what did you not find in synaptic?
[06:01] <nima> yea comes up wit wine-doc is dat the one?
[06:01] <dabar> no.
[06:01] <Madpilot> nima: do you have Univeserse repo installed?
[06:01] <drewfus> nima, only wine-doc?
[06:01] <Madpilot> Universe, even...
[06:01] <drewfus> oh yeah
[06:01] <drewfus> so doesnt he need to update apt-get?
[06:01] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:02] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:02] <dabar> ah, really is in universe.
[06:02] <nima> yes only wine-doc what is universal repo ?? drewfus madpilot dabar
[06:02] <nima> oh yea i think i did install that madpilot
[06:02] <Madpilot> nima: see the URL that ubotu just presented, above. it's got the info you need
[06:02] <drewfus> can you just add the repos by updating apt-get or something?
[06:03] <dabar> you could. apt-setup
[06:03] <Madpilot> If you've got Universe & Multiverse enabled, you should see wine and a whole pile of vaguely related stuff when searching for "wine"
[06:03] <drewfus> cause i dont remember adding any repos
[06:03] <zeus1_> its burning
[06:03] <zeus1_> lets hope this works
[06:03] <drewfus> whered redguy go?
[06:03] <redguy> drewfus: ok, you can remove swat since as far as I can see it needs the root password to get anything set up. You might want to read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19280.html on how to setup the samba server. www.samba.org has some good docs as well
[06:03] <dabar> zeus1_: did you follow that page?
[06:04] <zeus1_> yes...
[06:04] <dabar> good. it helped me the other day, windows is so sux.
[06:04] <drewfus> redguy, why remove?
[06:04] <zeus1_> ya...but its good for gaming
[06:04] <dabar> and being that gaming is bad in itself...
[06:04] <dabar> not trying to debate that, tho.
[06:04] <pfp> you _can_ set a root pw if eg. swat needs one
[06:04] <dabar> you can think what you want.
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, ill set it up under root but i just want to make sure i have everything i need before i switch over
[06:05] <Lucid[GL] > Ok, so i'm running Samba on an ubuntu box, configured up to snuff, i believe (lots of forum reading).  When I try to connect from my windows box (in the run prompt directly), i get a login/pass prompt, i enter it, click ok, but it just gives me the prompt again.  Thoughts?
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, and everything ive done is in either root terminal or synaptic under root
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, so why remove?
[06:06] <redguy> drewfus: you would have to set your root password which is disabled in ubuntu by default
[06:06] <rimu> that sounds like a samba question, rather than an ubuntu one :)
[06:06] <zeus1_> but its fun :(
[06:06] <Lucid[GL] > rimu, yes, i suppose it is...  still open for solutions though :)
[06:06] <zeus1_> i mean...i dont play 2 much games but they are a fun break from constantly programming or photoshopping
[06:06] <nima> Hey guys i already did universal b4 it is Ticked.. Still only one wine! ..
[06:07] <redguy> drewfus: maybe there are some tools to set up samba, I don't know of them
[06:07] <drewfus> redguy, ive already set up root
[06:07] <dabar> ya, I understand your viewpoint, zeus1_, I dont want to debate playing games.
[06:07] <zeus1_> k
[06:07] <redguy> drewfus: you have a root password set up? you sure?
[06:07] <dabar> I prefer other things...like, software development books...or maybe Im just jellaous I have to read that stuff while others play games.
[06:08] <drewfus> redguy, yeah i have it set up so i can log into it too
[06:08] <zeus1_> lol
[06:08] <durt> well i for one prefer porn
[06:08] <zeus1_> dabar u into game programming
[06:08] <zeus1_> direct x
[06:08] <zeus1_> or are u interested in doing that...
[06:09] <nima> drewfus universal is ticked only one WINE, wat did u do to fix urs? u said u did something else
[06:09] <blrich> can someone help? upgraded to breezy, now my xorg crashes on startup complaining of no core keyboard, and no driver 'keyboard' found
[06:09] <blrich> any clues?
[06:10] <blrich> tried kb and kbd, but these didn't work
[06:10] <redguy> drewfus: in that case edit /etc/inetd.conf and remove #off# in the line mentioning swat (somewhere at the bottom of the file), then run /etc/init.d/inetd so your changes will have effect
[06:10] <blrich> kbd b0rked my keyboard, in fact
[06:10] <dabar> blrich: did you try reconfiguring your xserver?
[06:10] <blrich> dabar: uh.... no =P
[06:10] <blrich> dabar: but i mean the same config should work
[06:10] <dabar> I mean.
[06:10] <durt> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <redguy> drewfus: after that enter localhost:901 in your webbrowser and log in as root to swat. you will have nice documentation links there
[06:10] <dabar> not at all, thats even worse, its like, putting effort into making people waste their time, and be blind. I respect the complexness of game programming, like, it is advanced stuff, but...it is the panem et circaencaeas syndrome( i so misspelled that.) cause it gives people something to do while they are being lead to doom, and so on, yadda yadda. zeus1_.
[06:11] <redguy> Lucid[GL] : tried entering guest as the user?
[06:11] <Madpilot> nima: hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[06:11] <glick> howdy
[06:11] <dabar> blrich: make a backup of your config file b4 you reconfigure.
[06:11] <dabar> glick: yo.
[06:11] <rimu> dabar: only if you do it ALL the time
[06:12] <rimu> then it becomes escapism
[06:12] <glick> hey dabar
[06:12] <dabar> rimu, again, I dont wanna discuss this.
[06:12] <rimu> *shrug*
[06:12] <dabar> sorry, just is off topic, and highly personal opinion...
[06:12] <rimu> yeah fair enough.
[06:13] <dabar> whats up glick, what did you do that is cool lately regarding Ubuntu/Linux/whatever.
[06:13] <nima> did that madpilot ! ..
[06:13] <dabar> nima, got wine yet?
[06:13] <glick> dabar, heh nothin too exciting, did some school work on it thas about it
[06:13] <nima> Nope dabar doesnt come up
[06:13] <dabar> glick, I installed linux for a friend from work:)...
[06:14] <dabar> nima, ok, let us put this this way.
[06:14] <moomooboy-brb> can someone tell me what program i can use
[06:14] <moomooboy-brb> to play mp3
[06:14] <glick> nice
[06:14] <dabar> xmms, moomooboy-brb.
[06:14] <Madpilot> !tell moomooboy-brb about mp3
[06:14] <dabar> nima: your synaptic pulls a list of packages from a file, that is located at /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <redguy> drewfus: any luck?
[06:15] <nima> yea!..
[06:15] <glick> kontact kicks ass
[06:15] <drewfus> i dont think so
[06:15] <glick> it totally ownz evolution
[06:15] <dabar> You can check it our some time. nima, also, it is not your file, so you would have to use sudo to edit it.
[06:15] <dabar> nima: also, synaptic has a function to add repositories, so, you could add the repository manually into the file, or you could do it through synaptic.
[06:16] <redguy> drewfus: you got into swat?
[06:16] <drewfus> redguy, no
[06:16] <moomooboy-brb> xmms?
[06:16] <moomooboy-brb> ok ill look for that
[06:16] <nima> dabar what are you trying to tell me to do ? chek the file?
[06:16] <ofer0> im trying to following this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:16] <blrich> dabar: durt that worked thanks =)
[06:16] <drewfus> redguy, refused again
[06:17] <nima> And i followed this link and yea didnt work : --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:17] <ofer0> and it gives me the error ?/dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:17] <redguy> drewfus: oops you should run /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[06:17] <redguy> sorry, my bad
[06:17] <dabar> nima, to learn how to do it through synaptic, visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . to add it manually, you would open the file with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace what is in it with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 , then save, close, and then reload your package list.
[06:17] <redguy> drewfus: it should display
[06:17] <nima> i also Ticked All the repositories maybe i'm not mean tto !??
[06:18] <d3mi4n> anyone know why i cannot load GED afte i install GLIB...it says GLIB is not installed?
[06:18] <dabar> nima, I am giving you knowledge, not instructions.
[06:18] <drewfus> redguy, what command do i used to restart?
[06:18] <redguy> drewfus: * Restarting internet superserver...                   [ ok ]
[06:18] <drewfus> sudo run /etc/init.d/inetd {restart}
[06:18] <dabar> read as many times till you dont get it, cause that explains it above.
[06:18] <nima> yes thanks dabar i will try the manually fing
[06:18] <drewfus> command not found
[06:18] <redguy> drewfus: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[06:19] <drewfus> fail
[06:19] <ofer0> guys any idea? im trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it gives me the error: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:19] <dabar> nima, to reload, you either hit the reload button in synaptic, or you do it in a terminal. in a terminal, you would type in sudo apt-get update, or sudo aptitude update. aptitude is the new preffered debian way.
[06:19] <nima> ok how can i change my Sources.list file as its READ ONLY?
[06:19] <dabar> preferred even.
[06:19] <redguy> drewfus: paste the /etc/inetd.conf file to pastebin
[06:19] <d3mi4n> anyone know why i cannot load GED afte i install GLIB...it says GLIB is not installed?
[06:19] <drewfus> nima, you probable have to be root
[06:19] <dabar> nima, I told you above, read as many times till you dont get it.
[06:19] <dabar> nima, I did not miss one thing.
[06:19] <nima> i have to use sudo
[06:20] <dabar> blrich: UI cant bvelieve that actually worked:P
[06:20] <Madpilot> nima: it should be read only. use "sudo gedit <whatever>" to get it editable - but read the AddingRepos URL, it really does explain all this stuff
[06:20] <CrackersKeenan> question about upgrades:  when breezy comes and I change my sources from hoary to breezy and do the upgrade-dist, will that mean I have to get mp3 codecs all over again?
[06:20] <nima> and may i ask what ROOT is ? i have to be root i don understand what that means
[06:20] <drewfus> its up
[06:20] <dabar> root is the superuser, the admin of your system.
[06:20] <redguy> nima: root is the user who can do anything on your system
[06:20] <nima> yea i am the root of my computer
[06:20] <CrackersKeenan> nima: root is the most priveleged user, who is allowed to install software etc
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell nima about root
[06:21] <dabar> sudo replaces the root account, in that one user, or more, can use sudo to give commands superuser privileges.
[06:21] <CrackersKeenan> on ubuntu you are root when you type a sudo command
[06:21] <redguy> nima: including breaking it :-)
[06:21] <Madpilot> nima: another useful page to read
[06:21] <rimu> !tell rimu about root
[06:21] <Madpilot> rimu: beat you to it... ;)
[06:21] <rimu> i have no idea what the tell t hing does...
[06:21] <rimu> was trying it out
[06:21] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot:  what is the !tell syntax about?
[06:21] <drewfus> !tell drewfus about root
[06:21] <drewfus> sweet
[06:22] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: it gets ubotu to pm people
[06:22] <Madpilot> !tell CrackersKeenan about mp3
[06:22] <drewfus> in my case, myself
[06:23] <nima> i think i'm just going to enable my root redguy madpilot !.. should i ?
[06:23] <durt> just use sudo su
[06:23] <drewfus> nima, i did it makes things easier sometimes
[06:23] <Madpilot> nima: use sudo - read that URL ubotu sent you
[06:24] <redguy> drewfus: pff, remove the space before swat and restart inetd again
[06:24] <nima> okk done nah i just enabled ROOT
[06:24] <nima> :D
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, all that from a space?
[06:24] <CrackersKeenan> !tell CrackersKeenan he's a handsome lad
[06:24] <CrackersKeenan> well that didn't do anything different
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, ok!
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, now ill try the localhost
[06:25] <zeus1_> hey guys
[06:25] <zeus1_> im speaking to u all from
[06:25] <zeus1_> LINUX
[06:25] <zeus1_> ubuntu linux that is
[06:25] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot:  that "!" didn't do anything weird in my last command
[06:25] <Madpilot> zeus1_: cool. Welcome to the Light Side
[06:25] <drewfus> redguy, awesome, thanks!
[06:25] <zeus1_> well...its only live cd for now
[06:25] <redguy> nima: that is really not recommended
[06:25] <zeus1_> but soon it will be a installation
[06:25] <zeus1_> dual boot installation
[06:25] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: it has to be a command that ubotu actually knows. try "list" for more info
[06:26] <nima> i enabled root guys but i still cant Chagne my File still read only, why not redguy?
[06:26] <redguy> drewfus: ufff, thought we'd never got it to run :-)
[06:26] <CrackersKeenan> ok thanks for the tip.  thought I must have not actually been handsome lol
[06:26] <drewfus> redguy, im suprised the space was it
[06:26] <drewfus> redguy and everyone else thanks for all the help today, im out and ill be back tomorrow
[06:27] <dabar> zeus1_: nice.
[06:27] <rimu> :-D
[06:27] <Madpilot> nima: please go and re-read that Repos page, you shouldn't have any trouble if you're careful
[06:27] <zeus1_> yep thank u all for the help;
[06:27] <dabar> !repos
[06:27] <zeus1_> i was not thinking correctly when i just burned the iso not the image
[06:27] <zeus1_> lo
[06:27] <zeus1_> lol*
[06:27] <CrackersKeenan> i'm hungry and will have to go to the markets soon.   Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 3877 kB, Installed size: 9012 kB
[06:28] <QMario> Hello Seves!
[06:28] <QMario> Seveas.
[06:28] <QMario> Thank you for the information.
[06:28] <QMario> How did we get spammed anyway?
[06:28] <QMario> Does anyone know how to adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[06:28] <CrackersKeenan> list
[06:29] <QMario> !gcc
[06:29] <ubotu> QMario: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <QMario> !G++
[06:29] <CrackersKeenan> MadPilot:  where do I try this "list" you speak of?
[06:29] <benplaut> 'night
[06:29] <rickity> i am perplexed...I used rsync to backup a bunch of files with the --checksum option it ran with no errors...yet a few binary files differ after the rsync...how is this possible?
[06:29] <Madpilot> !tell CrackersKeenan about list
[06:29] <QMario> Benplaut, do you know?
[06:29] <rimu> wtf is with the ubotu bot?!
[06:29] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[06:29] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[06:29] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:29] <ubotu> redguy: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <QMario> Rimu, language... :'(.
[06:29] <nima> so i just copy this page into the file ?
[06:29] <nima> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:29] <zeus1_> is there a task manager for ubuntu
[06:29] <benplaut> QMario, i have no idea what you're talking about
[06:29] <crimsun_> you have to address ubotu properly
[06:30] <Tortel> !identd!!
[06:30] <ubotu> Tortel: Wish i knew
[06:30] <nima> which part of this page to i copy the bottom white part or top part in orange????
[06:30] <Tortel> !identd
[06:30] <rimu> yes zeus there is
[06:30] <ubotu> Tortel: Are you smoking crack?
[06:30] <Tortel> :(
[06:30] <rickity> zeus1 ps and kill ;)
[06:30] <Madpilot> nima: the orange part
[06:30] <QMario> Benplaut, "configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."
[06:30] <rimu> applications->system tools->system monitor
[06:30] <Tortel> gAH
[06:30] <Tortel> i need a damn ident server
[06:31] <zeus1_> what was that rickity
[06:31] <zeus1_> sorry im new to linux
[06:31] <Tortel> i installed oidentd, pidentd
[06:31] <rickity> zeus1_, I was kidding
[06:31] <Tortel> but none works
[06:31] <zeus1_> what ok lol
[06:31] <QMario> Benplaut?
[06:31] <nima> OK done madpilot Still only one WINE
[06:31] <nima> OMG
[06:31] <rimu> but seriously. the ps and kill commands list out running processes and removes them
[06:32] <dabar> Tortel: ah, the isnt working issue, I know how to fix that one;)
[06:32] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot: thanks for that... I get it now
[06:32] <Tortel> yay?
[06:32] <Tortel> how?
[06:32] <QMario>   Madpilot, "Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:32] <QMario> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable". What does that mean?
[06:32] <redguy> QMario: maybe you need gtk2-dev or something like thaat?
[06:32] <Tortel>
[06:32] <Tortel> tehe
[06:33] <Madpilot> QMario: haven't a clue, sorry. Nice musical note, though...
[06:33] <dabar> Tortel: I was referring to your non informative request for help.
[06:33] <QMario>  Tortel, heh.   ;)
[06:33] <Tortel> :(
[06:33] <QMario> Madpilot, thank you.
[06:33] <Madpilot> !doesn't work
[06:33] <ubotu> well, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[06:34] <QMario> !Botsnack.
[06:34] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[06:34] <zeus1_> wow....ubuntu is a REALLY good operating system
[06:34] <dabar> its ok...I guess..:-/
[06:34] <zeus1_> woot it comes with the gimp
[06:34] <zeus1_> im def. going to install this tommorow
[06:34] <rickity> anybody ever use rsync with the --checksum option ?
[06:35] <dabar> no they put that one there so noone would use it;)
[06:35] <rickity> how does it work ?  it doesn't seem to flag files that differ
[06:35] <GlenC> how do you search for a file in command line?
[06:35] <redguy> GlenC: with find or locate (man find; man locate)
[06:36] <zeus1_> alright...back to windows to go DL the .iso file for the installer
[06:36] <zeus1_> brb
[06:36] <rimu> :)
[06:36] <Xorlev> How would I go about appending a file by using find? I have the files listing correctly, and using > to output to a file, but how to append to that file rather than overwrite?
[06:36] <QMario> Madpilot, how do I add stuff to environmental variables?
[06:36] <dabar> >>
[06:36] <Xorlev> dabar: Thanks
[06:37] <Madpilot> QMario: I'm not even sure what an enviromental variable is, to be honest...
[06:37] <dabar> I think, not suer anymore.
[06:37] <redguy> Xorlev: dabar is right
[06:37] <QMario> Okay, thank you.
[06:37] <dabar> QMario: DABAR=$DABARappendthisshizz
[06:37] <nima> OK everybody i disabled ALL repoostries Except Universal Haury Hedghog or wateva its called still only one WINE
[06:37] <QMario> Dabar, huh?
[06:38] <nima> WTF?
[06:38] <QMario> Tortel, huh?
[06:38] <dabar> nima, please do this. open a terminal, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:38] <dabar> no.
[06:39] <dabar> actually, do this in the terminal
[06:39] <nima> ok
[06:39] <nima> ... waitingg ..
[06:39] <QMario> Dabar, could you please be more specific?
[06:39] <redguy> one wine is enough for me...
[06:39] <QMario> What does Dabar mean in your answer?
[06:39] <dabar> QMario: could you? tell me what you want to append to what variable.
[06:39] <dabar> DABAR is the global variabnle
[06:40] <zeus1_> ahhh back to windows....
[06:40] <nima> waitingg dabar ! ......
[06:40] <dabar> wget www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list in that terminal, nima.
[06:40] <redguy> QMario: you sure you have gtk2+ development files?
[06:40] <QMario> Really. For everyone?
[06:40] <nima> ok
[06:40] <QMario> Redguy, let me try again.
[06:40] <dabar> QMario: that was an example.
[06:40] <nima> ok source list saved
[06:40] <nima> now ! .. refresh!?
[06:40] <dabar> nima, that downloads my sources.list file, from the server, to your folder.
[06:40] <QMario>  I am downloading them right now.
[06:41] <dabar> nima, now, yuou need to put it into the right folder.
[06:41] <dabar> sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt
[06:41] <dabar> then, sudo aptitude update.
[06:41] <redguy> QMario: most likely that was your problem
[06:41] <dabar> then, aptitude search wine, and tell me whether there is a wine there.
[06:42] <dabar> nima, all those instructions are for you.
[06:42] <GlenC> how do you start samba?
[06:42] <dabar> hehe.
[06:42] <redguy> darn!
[06:42] <dabar> :D
[06:42] <QMario> Redguy, you were right.
[06:42] <redguy> GlenC: can you be more specific?
[06:42] <QMario> Dabar, heh.
[06:43] <QMario> Thank God.
[06:43] <QMario> Thank you Dabar and redguy. :)
[06:43] <dabar> QMario: all environment variables have capital letters in their name. all capitals.
[06:43] <QMario>  Really?
[06:43] <redguy> GlenC: actually to start samba you would run sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[06:43] <dabar> $ENVVAR in a terminal gets replaces by the value in that variable.
[06:44] <dabar> to set a variable, VAR=value.
[06:44] <dabar> to append to a global variable, DABAR=$DABARappendthisshizz.
[06:44] <dabar> get it?
[06:45] <dabar> redguy: you would actually in debian systems.... invoke-rc.d serverName start
[06:45] <dabar> as root, or sudo in ubuntu.
[06:45] <GlenC> ugh, redguy, that fails
[06:45] <GregAsche> guys, what's wrong with esd? any time I use it, my audio and video get out of sync on video files I play, but if I don't use it, /dev/dsp always gets hogged
[06:45] <nima> sorry i'm bak dabar
[06:45] <nima> yea i did it it downloaded something noww what?
[06:45] <dabar> nima, are you really sorry?
[06:45] <dabar> nima, I would like to point out the scroll up ability of todays windows.
[06:45] <rimu> LOL
[06:45] <redguy> dabar: isn't /etc/init.d/script start easier? Is there a difference?
[06:46] <QMario> Is Debian a good Operating System?
[06:46] <zerboxx> when one "modprobe"'s something, does it edit a file somewhere? if so, which file?
[06:46] <dabar> GregAsche: what files do these things get out of sync on?
[06:46] <redguy> GlenC: maybe you have it misconfigured?
[06:46] <gigaclon> i guess
[06:46] <GregAsche> dabar: any video file
[06:46] <gigaclon> but its a bit outdated
[06:46] <dabar> QMario: debian is ok, ya, great community support. ubuntu is based on debian.
[06:47] <dabar> redguy: yes, they [prefer you use invoke-rc.d other than that, I dont have a clue w t difference is.
[06:48] <dabar> GregAsche: sorry to hear that, too bad, too sad, I dont know how to fix that. what program do you play vids in?
[06:49] <GregAsche> i was playing them in totem
[06:49] <GregAsche> let me try them in mplayer
[06:49] <dabar> GregAsche: open a terminal, and type in aptitude search totem, and tell me whether there is an i on the left of totem-gstreamer, or totem-xine.
[06:49] <dabar> and, I ownt let you.
[06:50] <GregAsche> dabar: an i next to totem-xine
[06:51] <dabar> hows your mplayer doing?
[06:51] <GregAsche> i'm starting esd right now
[06:51] <redguy> dabar: it seems that invoke-rc.d won't run initscripts that aren't configured be run in the current runlevel. Neat
[06:51] <GregAsche> i'm not using it atm
[06:51] <dabar> good to kno.
[06:52] <aru> anyone have any experience with gdesklets, I started up the shell and now I have a tool bar following my mouse
[06:53] <dabar> nima, how'd that work?
[06:53] <GregAsche> hm, i'll be right back
[06:54] <nima> sorry had to go somwhere i'm bak i just downloaded ur file and now i dont know what to do !.. can you pls say it again
[06:55] <durt> is there a way to free memory and swap?i think ive got a mem leak somewhere, because my used mem and swap wont go down
[06:55] <theplateau> does this play videos?
[06:55] <theplateau> http://jaypara.sytes.net/videos.m3u
[06:55] <nima> sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt that didnt work dabar ! .. ?
[06:55] <Xinex> can someone help me diagnose this samba problem?
[06:55] <factotum> ugh, i gotta quit looking at 64-bit G5's, makes me want to drain my bank account
[06:55] <dabar> nima, did not work how?
[06:56] <redguy> Xinex: which is?
[06:56] <Xinex> the daemons won't start
[06:56] <Xinex> I looked in the log, said a param is missing
[06:56] <durt> wouldnt it be mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:57] <dabar> durt, it could, but my version also works.
[06:57] <durt> alright
[06:57] <dabar> if destination is an existing folder, the file gets moved to that folder.
[06:58] <redguy> Xinex: did it tell which parameter?
[06:59] <dabar> nima, if you have a sources.list file in your current folder, you will be able to do that command.
[06:59] <Xinex> not sure. Want me to "paste" the file, redguy?
[06:59] <dabar> if your current folder is not writable by you, you will not be able to wget the file from my server.
[06:59] <redguy> Xinex: paste to ubuntu.pastebin.com your smb.conf and the log if you may
[07:00] <dabar> im off, someone help that man get universe enabled:)
[07:00] <nima> holdon dabar
[07:00] <nima> u there?
[07:01] <GregAsche> hmm
[07:01] <GregAsche> hey dabar, now I can't get esd to work
[07:01] <dabar> kk
[07:01] <redguy> nima: what did sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt say?
[07:01] <Xinex> redguy, where is the smb.conf?
[07:01] <Xinex> I forget
[07:01] <dabar> GregAsche: whats it do, I cant guess, ...
[07:01] <redguy> Xinex:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:02] <GregAsche> dabar: well, applications can access it, but i just don't get any sound
[07:02] <GregAsche> i just ran /usr/bin/esd
[07:02] <durt> how come "free" says i have 434/504 mb mem used, but system-monitor says i have used only 190?
[07:02] <Xinex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347416 , redguy
[07:02] <dabar> ok, so you ran it, and it is still running in the terminal you ran it in?
[07:03] <GregAsche> yes
[07:03] <GregAsche> well, it's independent of the terminal
[07:03] <GregAsche> i used an &
[07:03] <Madpilot> GregAsche: try just typing "esd" at a prompt - you should get a musical tone
[07:03] <GregAsche> no musical tone
[07:03] <jorgp> what repos do I need for transcode using hoary?
[07:04] <Xinex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347419 , redguy
[07:04] <Madpilot> !info transcode
[07:04] <jorgp> |transcode
[07:05] <jorgp> !info transcode
[07:06] <jorgp> heh, says packages does not exist
[07:06] <redguy> Xinex: hmm, you sure it's not running?
[07:06] <Xinex> pretty sure
[07:06] <Xinex> said the daemons failed
[07:06] <Xinex> hmmm
[07:06] <Xinex> I guess it is running
[07:06] <Xinex> weird
[07:07] <heatxsink> hello all, I know this is a dumb question but how can I get DVD's working on ubuntu
[07:07] <heatxsink> I have it working at home, but I forgot how I did it
[07:07] <nalioth> !tell heatxsink about restricted
[07:09] <redguy> Xinex: stop the daemons
[07:09] <Xinex> how and why?
[07:10] <heatxsink> aahaha
[07:10] <heatxsink> nalioth:  thanks
[07:10] <redguy> Xinex: how did you start samba?
[07:10] <Xinex> the way you told me I think
[07:10] <redguy> Xinex: ah. ok :-)
[07:11] <Xinex> I was glen
[07:11] <redguy> Xinex: so now killall smbd && killall nmbd
[07:11] <Xinex> I can't atm
[07:11] <Xinex> transferring a file
[07:12] <redguy> Xinex: check if the processes are actually killed
[07:12] <redguy> Xinex: you need printing in samba?
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> whats up people
[07:12] <Xinex> no, redguy
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> Seveas, you have a q&d two-liner for the java package,w hat is it?
[07:13] <nalioths_dog> PurpleMotion: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[07:13] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: is that what you are lookin for ?
[07:13] <PurpleMotion> you da m-f'in man, yo
[07:13] <redguy> Xinex: comment out [printers]  and [print$]  sections then
[07:14] <Xinex> is there a way to block comment?
[07:14] <Xinex> instead of ##?
[07:14] <redguy> Xinex: don't think so
[07:15] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: dont you mean my dog?
[07:15] <PurpleMotion> The dog just does tricks he's trained to do :>
[07:15] <redguy> Xinex: after that, after making sure that smbd and nmbd aren't running, start samba with sudo invoke-rc.s samba start
[07:16] <nalioth> never thought of it that way
[07:16] <Xinex> I tried that first, redguy
[07:16] <Madpilot> nalioth: is nalioths_dog another bot?
[07:16] <nalioth> nope, the dog is not a bot
[07:16] <damnhil> are bots allowed in this channel/canal?
[07:17] <PurpleMotion> the dog is a script?
[07:17] <nalioth> damnhil: only one....ubotu
[07:17] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: yep, just a script
[07:17] <holycow> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ <-- why didn't anyone tell me about this before?
[07:17] <holycow> -_-
[07:17] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell Madpilot about yourself
[07:17] <redguy> Xinex: try that after commenting out the printers
[07:18] <antonio_> anyone have any luck with wireless sniffers on hoary?
[07:19] <kevogod> I am sure this has been asked 1 million times, but does anyone know what happened to the sun-j2re1.5 package on hoary-extras?
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> nope
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> just build it
[07:19] <redguy> it is no more
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> pretty simple stuff with the right instructions
[07:19] <kevogod> I know, but I am wondering what the reason is.
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[07:20] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[07:20] <redguy> Xinex: any luck with that?
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> there, now we have !quick-java
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> !quick-java
[07:20] <ubotu> I heard quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> i need to fix it
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, forget quick-java
[07:21] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: i forgot quick-java
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[07:21] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: okay
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, thanks
[07:21] <ubotu> pas de quoi, PurpleMotion
[07:22] <jorgp> can someone please run
[07:22] <jorgp> gst-compprep-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 > /dev/null
[07:22] <jorgp> my segfaults
[07:23] <Xinex> redguy, wait, I'm transferring a file
[07:23] <jorgp> using hoary
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> wow - i come back - and theres 1000+ msgs to me from some spambot attack. :P
[07:25] <antonio_> anyone have anyluck with wireless sniffers?
[07:26] <pagefault> I believe your wireless card need to support monitor mode to use those
[07:29] <PurpleMotion> jorgp, i will
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> {jay@shitbrick(~)}$: gst-compprep-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 > /dev/null
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> {jay@shitbrick(~)}$:
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> nothing
[07:34] <Xinex> redguy, invoke-rc.s not found
[07:35] <noobler> anyone know any workarounds for vncviewer fullscreen f8 bug?
[07:36] <PurpleMotion> isnt it invoke-rcS.d?
[07:36] <PurpleMotion> just type invoke and hit tab
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> invoke-rc.d
[07:37] <Xinex> cool
[07:37] <Xinex> thanks
[07:37] <jorgp> anyone know what repos I need to add to get transcode installed?
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> i typed invoke and hit tab, heh
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> restricted
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> !restricted
[07:37] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:38] <redguy> Xinex: were cool?
[07:38] <vortek> hello
[07:38] <Xinex> I think so
[07:39] <vortek> I tried like 10 kernel compiles no matter what I do It says it cant sync and says unable to mount VFS.. I have DEVFS compiled directly into the kernel also
[07:39] <vortek> Why is it doing this ? I've never had to recompile a kernel 10 times
[07:39] <vortek> is this a glitch ?
[07:40] <vortek> in knoppix
[07:40] <vortek> don't be scared I don't bite
[07:41] <vortek>  why does this question scare the crap out of EVERY ONE all the timne
[07:41] <vortek> lol
[07:41] <IceDC571> is there any way to tell apt to ignore a package?
[07:41] <IceDC571> i keep getting errors with gnome-session
[07:41] <vortek> i also ran mkinitrd and added it to grub and in the .config
[07:42] <DjKritical> I have an NVidia graphics card... are the default video drivers good enough or should I install the nvidia restricted ones?\
[07:45] <DjKritical> okay easier question'
[07:45] <DjKritical> Is it safe to remove the ubuntu cd from the apt sources list?
[07:45] <deFrysk> yes
[07:46] <DjKritical> cool thanks =)
[07:46] <deFrysk> if you are on line that is
[07:46] <deFrysk> and if you want acceleration with your nvidia-card
[07:46] <deFrysk> ! nvidia
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:46] <DjKritical> Awesome thanks :D
[07:46] <deFrysk> DjKritical, have fun :)
[07:48] <jorgp> ok, I have the hoary-extras in sources.list and it still says transcode not available
[07:49] <deFrysk> ! info transcode
[07:49] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, deFrysk
[07:49] <deFrysk> !info transcode
[07:52] <DjKritical> oh no... installing the nvidia drivers has screwed up gnome :O
[07:53] <deFrysk> jorgp, it should be in multiverse
[07:53] <DjKritical> everything is half as bright and the colours are all wrong
[07:53] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did the nvidia splash work ?
[07:54] <rimu> when i go to install the nvidia-glx package, synaptic warns me that it is going to remove the ubuntu-desktop package.....
[07:54] <rimu> that scares me a bit
[07:54] <rimu> so i stopped
[07:54] <rimu> is it normal?
[07:54] <rimu> ubuntu-desktop sounds kinda important!
[07:54] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yes it did
[07:55] <jorgp> deFrysk: I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse in sources.list
[07:55] <deFrysk> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage witch can safely be removed , but I am not sure why it would do that when installing nvidia-glx
[07:55] <No1Viking> I have two network cards. If I want to change and make the other one active and connected to Internet, how do I do?
[07:55] <rimu> possibly because nvidia-gls is one of ubuntu-desktop's dependencies?
[07:56] <DjKritical> deFrysk: any suggestions?...
[07:56] <holycow> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/08/25/whatisXwindow.html?CMP=OTC-0O724Z062301  <-- excellent article on x server architecture for noobs
[07:56] <jorgp> Package transcode is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:56] <deFrysk> DjKritical, system > preferences > screenresolution and check if its set properly
[07:57] <kevogod> NolViking: Go to System --> Administration --> Networking.
[07:58] <No1Viking> kevogod, thanks!  :)
[07:58] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yeah it is
[07:58] <nima> OMG GUYS
[07:58] <DjKritical> I tried other resolitions...
[07:58] <DjKritical> but couldn't change the 60hz
[07:59] <nima> Can somebody help me setting up synaptic.. so that i can get WINE i have been trying for 2 hours no joke ! ..
[07:59] <deFrysk> DjKritical, could be your screenresolutions are not set properly then , 60 hz is pretty low
[07:59] <kevogod> nima: Are you having a problem with libwine and having it as the wrong version?
[07:59] <JDahl> I thought tritium packaged matplotlib, but it's not listed in breezy :/
[07:59] <DjKritical> deFrysk: 60hz worked before installing the nVidia drivers?
[07:59] <nima> no kevogod it just doesnt find it !... it only finds one wine which is Wine-DOC
[08:00] <No1Viking> nima, update sources.list
[08:00] <deFrysk> DjKritical, ceck if xorg.conf recognized your monitor
[08:00] <kevogod> nima: You must enable universe.
[08:00] <DjKritical> ok brb
[08:00] <deFrysk> check*
[08:00] <nima> I did all that b4!..
[08:00] <nima> can u send me ur sources.list file
[08:00] <jorgp> heh, I am having same issue with transcode, it can only fine transcode-doc
[08:00] <nima> so i can just psate it ova mine! ... ?
[08:01] <No1Viking> !sources.list
[08:01] <ubotu> No1Viking: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:01] <jorgp> find
[08:01] <No1Viking> !sources
[08:01] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:01] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I just noticed... even my VC windows arn't showing properly!
[08:02] <DjKritical> where is xorg.conf?
[08:02] <deFrysk> do you know your hor and vert resolution settings DjKritical ?
[08:02] <Belutz> DjKritical: /etc/X11
[08:02] <Madpilot> nima: that paste URL in ubotu's post should have all you need, and if you're still screwed up after using it, I'm not sure what to suggest...
[08:02] <DjKritical> deFrysk: you mean 1024/9..?
[08:02] <deFrysk> DjKritical, its in /ect/X11/xorg.com
[08:02] <deFrysk> no horizontal and vertical refresh
[08:03] <DjKritical> vert rtefreash = 43-60
[08:03] <DjKritical> horiz sync = 28-60
[08:03] <Madpilot> cool. "find --help" has to be the most incomprhensible --help file I've seen yet...
[08:03] <deFrysk> those are the correct ones ?
[08:03] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I honestly have no idea?
[08:04] <deFrysk> DjKritical, does it state a monitortyp in your xorg.conf ?
[08:04] <DjKritical> generic
[08:04] <deFrysk> not recognized then
[08:05] <deFrysk> DjKritical, google specs <yourmonitor to find the hor and vert refresh rates
[08:05] <DjKritical> okay will do
[08:05] <DjKritical> (Thank god I have another pc close by :D)
[08:05] <deFrysk> :)
[08:05] <deFrysk> is it a new monitor ?
[08:05] <deFrysk> new as in new model
[08:06] <DjKritical> Philips 107s5
[08:06] <DjKritical> It's probably 1 or 2 years old?
[08:07] <DjKritical> maybe less?
[08:07] <DjKritical> I forgot to mention...
[08:08] <DjKritical> I'm running 2 pcs off this monitor... with a keyboard activated switch
[08:08] <DjKritical> Could I just get the settings from this PC (Debian)
[08:08] <DjKritical> ?
[08:08] <DjKritical> I'm not having much luck finding the v/h refreash rates on google
[08:08] <nima> madpilot just enabled community then went terminal and pasted all that from that site into my sources.list file ( overwrited the other stuff ) And search WINE and NOTHING
[08:08] <nima> omg this is pissing me off!!!!!!
[08:09] <nima> enabled univrse*
[08:09] <deFrysk> DjKritical, does it use the same monitor ?
[08:09] <DjKritical> yes
[08:09] <deFrysk> nima, apt-get update ?
[08:09] <nima> wats dat defrysk !?
[08:09] <DjKritical> I just his "Scroll lock, Scroll lock, Escape" and it switched pc
[08:10] <Madpilot> nima: do what deFrysk just suggested: type "apt-get update" at a regular command prompt
[08:10] <eob84> can anyone tell me how to change my resolution through the xorg.conf
[08:10] <Madpilot> that forces apt to check your sources.list and download the new lists...
[08:10] <deFrysk> hey Madpilot  :)
[08:10] <DjKritical> Inside XF86Config-4 it's got.... Horizontal Sync = 30-70,  Vertical Sync = 50-160
[08:10] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:10] <eob84> I installed fglrx
[08:10] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:10] <nima> where do i type that in madpilot?
[08:10] <deFrysk> DjKritical, use those and log the specs :)
[08:11] <DjKritical> log the specs?
[08:11] <Madpilot> nima: in your terminal
[08:11] <deFrysk> DjKritical, yes so that you know them for a next time
[08:11] <nima> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[08:11] <redguy> DjKritical: XF86Config-4 ?? which ubuntu are you using?
[08:11] <deFrysk> DjKritical, always log your needed info
[08:12] <deFrysk> redguy, no those are specs from a debian box ;)
[08:12] <nima> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:12] <redguy> nima: sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <Madpilot> nima: do you still have Synaptic running? if you do, close it
[08:12] <deFrysk> nima, close synaptic please
[08:12] <nima> ok
[08:12] <deFrysk> nima, and try again
[08:12] <redguy> deFrysk: ah!
[08:12] <geneo93> nima sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <nima> ok its doin some crap
[08:12] <nima> Done
[08:12] <nima> now go bak into synaptic?
[08:13] <Madpilot> nima: sure. search for wine
[08:13] <deFrysk> nima, make sure not to act as an experienced user when you are not
[08:13] <deFrysk> to avoid misunderstandings
[08:13] <nima> when did i act as an experienced user deFrysk?
[08:13] <nima> i just started usin linux today ! ....
[08:14] <deFrysk> nima, next time mention you are a new user so we can check the obvious
[08:14] <deFrysk> like apt-get update ;)
[08:14] <nima> Yep to bad it didnt work deFrysk
[08:14] <nima> I already tried all that someone even sent me there sources.list file ! ..
[08:14] <nima> and yea didnt work wine-doc is only file that comes up
[08:14] <Madpilot> nima: still?
[08:15] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I changed the settings to be exactly like my other PC... and it's still doing the same thing =(
[08:15] <redguy> !find wine
[08:15] <adriyel_rakham> hi guys
[08:15] <deFrysk> DjKritical, restarted X ?
[08:15] <Madpilot> !+find wine
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'wine' (14 shown): libwine ;; libwine-alsa ;; libwine-arts ;; libwine-capi ;; libwine-cil ;; libwine-dev ;; libwine-jack ;; libwine-nas ;; libwine-print ;; libwine-twain ;; wine ;; wine-doc ;; wine-utils ;; winesetuptk.
[08:15] <nima> Didnt WorK!
[08:15] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I restarted the entire PC!
[08:15] <adriyel_rakham> its adriyel, someone evidently took my name :(
[08:15] <redguy> !info wine
[08:15] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[08:15] <CrackersKeenan> to answer a question i was ansering earlier:  Any aussies who want to hear JJJ via internet radio, get realplayer and open the .ram location through it.  Great stuff :)
[08:15] <deFrysk> DjKritical, changed screenresolution in settings of gnome ?
[08:15] <Madpilot> adriyel_rakham: if you're registered here, use GHOST to kick the other user and get your nick back
[08:16] <adriyel_rakham> but I didn't register my real name
[08:16] <DjKritical> DjKritical: How do you mean?... I'll try now... it's very hard to do tho!.. I can't see much
[08:16] <deFrysk> DjKritical, system prefs screenresolution
[08:16] <adriyel_rakham> anyone here use Enlightenment Desktop?
[08:16] <redguy> nima, paste your sources.list and output of apt-get update to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[08:17] <Madpilot> nima: if you're using the "official" sources.list - from that pastebin site - and you ran apt upgrade, I have NO idea why you aren't seeing a whole lot of wine stuff
[08:17] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I've tried changing the refreash rate a few times now... still no go..
[08:17] <redguy> nima: to be more specific, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:18] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I can't even see what I'm changing it to
[08:18] <nima> OK this is exactly wat i did.. i went sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list PAste from dat site overwrite it all then save.. then run it and yea didnt work
[08:18] <Madpilot> ubotu tell nima about pastebin
[08:18] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you run the monitor on the debian box while installing ubuntu ?
[08:18] <nima> and ok i will paste my file to pastebin
[08:19] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yes?
[08:19] <deFrysk> DjKritical, then your X han never detected your monitor ;)
[08:20] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Ubuntu installed perfectly tho... and so did the xwindows?
[08:20] <nima> okk um here madpilot
[08:20] <nima> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347463
[08:20] <deFrysk> DjKritical, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:20] <DjKritical> okay will do
[08:20] <nima> dats my source.list file
[08:20] <durt> nvidia drivers are a pain
[08:20] <redguy> nima: you sure that the file is in /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[08:21] <deFrysk> durt, they are not if you do it properly
[08:21] <kevogod> durt: Well, then you must have never used ATI drivers.
[08:21] <geneo93> no there quite simple
[08:21] <Madpilot> nima: that looks exactly like mine, and I can find a pile of wine-related stuff thru Synaptic...
[08:21] <nima> redguy file is in /etc/apt
[08:21] <Xorlev> Hmm, so I use that gtk2-engine-gtk-qt thing, and it makes all my GTK apps look better (X-Chat, Gaim, etc.), and when I run Synaptic from command line (sudo synaptic) it looks great with the styles, but when I run it from the KMenu, it looks like a shitty ripoff of Windows 98. Ideas?
[08:22] <nima> and also in der is Secring.gpg source.list source.list.save.. ect!...
[08:22] <redguy> nima: ok, now shut down synaptic and paste output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search wine
[08:22] <durt> i have a toshiba, so i get a black bar on the left in resolutions other than 1400x1050, and that took forever to figure out how to get
[08:22] <nima> ok redguy
[08:22] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Okay I did all that...
[08:23] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I'll tell you now tho... I didn't know the answers to 90% of those questions
[08:23] <deFrysk> ok gor the refresh correct now ? DjKritical  ?
[08:23] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I don't know.. I guess I need to restart X?
[08:23] <deFrysk> DjKritical, mostly use defaults in that
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Whats the command to restart x again?
[08:24] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you set the first to nv ?
[08:24] <redguy> DjKritical: press ctr-alt-backspace
[08:24] <nima> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347465 redguy
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: no I choose nvidia
[08:24] <geneo93> ctrl alt backspace
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: should I go back to nv?
[08:24] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did ir get your monito?
[08:25] <DjKritical> deFrysk: no it didn't look like it did
[08:25] <deFrysk> strange
[08:25] <redguy> nima: seems ok, now sudo apt-get install wine
[08:25] <DjKritical> strange?...
[08:25] <nima> and thats other one redguy http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347467
[08:25] <DjKritical> does it normally detect monitor settings?
[08:25] <nima> oh install
[08:25] <deFrysk> it should recognize yor monito DjKritical
[08:25] <nima> i wrote cache or something
[08:25] <Ick> unbuntu uses apt, right?
[08:26] <Ick> or something like it?
[08:26] <Xorlev> Ick: Yes
[08:26] <DjKritical> deFrysk: would having it plugged into this screen splitter screw it up?
[08:26] <deFrysk> DjKritical, likely yes
[08:26] <nima> dats install one redguy http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347468
[08:26] <geneo93> nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:26] <geneo93>   this is important step
[08:26] <Madpilot> Ick: Synaptic for graphical stuff, apt or aptitude on the command line
[08:26] <deFrysk> is should recognize any 2 jr old monitor
[08:27] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I just reconfigured again and choose NV
[08:27] <DjKritical> and it's working again
[08:27] <Ick> what's the deal with sudo?
[08:27] <DjKritical> but I would really like to figure this out tho
[08:27] <deFrysk> DjKritical, if you are not a gamer it will do fine
[08:28] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I am a gamer =(
[08:28] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:28] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:28] <Madpilot> Ick: see ubotu above ^^^
[08:28] <deFrysk> DjKritical, try to run the config without the splitter and it should detect fine
[08:28] <redguy> nima: what architecture do you have?
[08:28] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I can't install ubuntu, and it's driving me nuts.
[08:28] <DjKritical> deFrysk: okay I'll do it now, you going to be here for 5 minutes?
[08:28] <nima> wat u mean redguy architecture ?
[08:28] <No1Viking> I try do do the following "sudo aptitude install xfree86-driver-fglrx" and get this "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:28] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:28] <No1Viking> ". What to do about it?
[08:28] <deFrysk> DjKritical, hurry its almost time for coffee ;p
[08:28] <geneo93> what the since of installing nvidia drivers if you dont enable them
[08:29] <DjKritical> deFrysk: okay brb asap
[08:29] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> nima what kind of processor is it?
[08:29] <redguy> nima: i386? AMD64?
[08:29] <No1Viking> And yes, it's the ATI driver
[08:29] <nima> AMD 64
[08:29] <nima> and i used AMD 64 cd
[08:29] <adriyel_rakham> ouch, ATI machine?
[08:29] <nima> to install
[08:29] <redguy> ah
[08:29] <adriyel_rakham> <--- AMD 64 + NV here.
[08:29] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> is it an amd64 or an amd?
[08:29] <nima> HuHHHHH?
[08:30] <nima> amd 64
[08:30] <No1Viking> ". What to do about it?
[08:30] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:30] <CrackersKeenan> there has to be something better than sound juicer for ripping my CDs
[08:30] <No1Viking> I try do do the following "sudo aptitude install xfree86-driver-fglrx" and get this "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:30] <nima> and i used Version 5.04 for AMD64/EM64T
[08:30] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:30] <nima> !..... redguy
[08:30] <ubotu> nima: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:30] <nima> do wat come in packet of 5 ?
[08:31] <No1Viking> !xfree86-driver-fglrx
[08:31] <ubotu> No1Viking: What?
[08:31] <nima> ubotu do wat come in packet of 5?
[08:31] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nima
[08:31] <No1Viking> !xfree86-driver
[08:31] <ubotu> No1Viking: No idea
[08:31] <geneo93> try xorg
[08:31] <redguy> nima: there is no wine version for your architecture in the repository
[08:31] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I used the shipping service, and in addition to the install discs and some of the livecd's not working, I can't download the iso from the internet.
[08:31] <nima> OhH
[08:31] <redguy> nima: that's why you don't seem to see it
[08:31] <nima> dats shittttt
[08:32] <nima> wat if i install normal version linux ! .. ( not 64 ) den can i get it
[08:32] <geneo93> No1Viking:  hoary use xorg
[08:32] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yeah, but you can't cuz that's not your arch.
[08:32] <No1Viking> OK
[08:32] <No1Viking> Thanks
[08:32] <DjKritical> deFrysk: It detected the screen this time!
[08:32] <DjKritical> deFrysk: But when I choose the nvidia driver... same problem
[08:33] <DjKritical> deFrysk: all the colours are still screwy
[08:33] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I couldn't get it for my ppc either.
[08:33] <nima> umm i was using Widnows xp before linux!.. when theres windows xp 64 bit out ! ....
[08:33] <deFrysk> now again go to the resolutionsetting in gnome
[08:33] <deFrysk> and set it if possible to a higher hz
[08:33] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yeah, I wish I could install xp. I could download and burn this disc in no time.
[08:33] <redguy> nima: but fear not! ask google for ubuntu 32-bit chroot. there should be a thread in the forums or on the wiki on how to do that
[08:34] <DjKritical> deFrysk: same issue
[08:34] <redguy> ah!
[08:34] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> what's faster, kubuntu or normal gnome based ubuntu?
[08:34] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I set it to quite a few different combinations...
[08:34] <redguy> !tell nima about chroot
[08:34] <deFrysk> then check if the hor. and vert. settings are corresponding with the debian ones
[08:35] <deFrysk> in xorg.conf
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I see some horizonatal lines at some of them... but the colours always stay the same
[08:35] <Madpilot> you can run the 32bit version on 64bit architecture
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I think I installed debian with the splitter in aswell :P
[08:35] <Madpilot> 32bit version of Ubuntu, that is
[08:35] <deFrysk> DjKritical, in hoary ?
[08:35] <AdmiralCrunch> Cry_ubuntu_livec, I think GNOME is faster, its less bloated
[08:35] <nima> so after i do that redguy i can get wine??? coz if i cant use wine den half the stuff i need wont be good ?? :(
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yeah in hoary
[08:35] <deFrysk> a sec
[08:36] <Madpilot> nima: what do you need wine for, anyway?
[08:36] <nima> some programs for Xbox
[08:36] <redguy> nima: dont expect that every app wil run in wine
[08:36] <nima> transfering and stuff
[08:36] <deFrysk> DjKritical, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:36] <nima> and games etc! ....
[08:36] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:37] <AdmiralCrunch> nima, the only way to make sure stuff works, is to make a vmware for Windows, Wine or Cedga wont do everything
[08:37] <nima> vmware for windows?
[08:37] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I think I already have
[08:37] <AdmiralCrunch> VMWare is for Linux, to run Windows
[08:38] <deFrysk> run nvidia-settings DjKritical
[08:38] <nima> also ! , MY Sound still doesnt work :( !... hehe ! .. vmware heyy
[08:38] <Madpilot> nima: VMware is payware...
[08:38] <deFrysk> maybe it helps
[08:38] <DjKritical> okay
[08:38] <HappyFool> or just dual-boot windows and ubuntu
[08:38] <redguy> AdmiralCrunch: isn't there VMWare for windows as well?
[08:38] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[08:38] <DjKritical> gtk-warning - cannot open display
[08:38] <DjKritical> o_O?
[08:39] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you run nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[08:41] <deFrysk> ?
[08:41] <DjKritical> deFrysk: good question
[08:41] <deFrysk> do it , now and restart x
[08:41] <DjKritical> I did the steps from ubuntoguide.org
[08:41] <deFrysk> DjKritical, wrong guide
[08:41] <nima> MmM is there anyway i can install windows and linux!? on at same time?
[08:41] <geneo93> if the nvidia drivers are installed the right wat there is no need to edit any files
[08:41] <DjKritical> I was just fooling around with nvidia-settings :D
[08:41] <deFrysk> DjKritical, the wike is god ubuntuguide = devel
[08:41] <deFrysk> wiki*
[08:42] <DjKritical> lol okay I will remember that =)
[08:42] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[08:42] <DjKritical> okay I'll run that command now
[08:42] <deFrysk> DjKritical, not even remembering what you did shows the evil of ubuntuguide
[08:42] <nima> Can u have multi operating system wit linux and windows ?
[08:42] <deFrysk> DjKritical, after that restart x
[08:42] <Madpilot> nima: of course.
[08:42] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[08:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:43] <CrackersKeenan> anyone use something better than sound juicer for ripping cds?
[08:43] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: grip
[08:43] <nerdy2> cdparanoia? :)
[08:43] <DjKritical> deFrysk: noooo =(
[08:43] <redguy> grip rox
[08:43] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: thanks - is it quicker?
[08:43] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  i use grip
[08:44] <nerdy2> sound juicer works for me
[08:44] <DjKritical> deFrysk: let me know when you're back
[08:44] <geneo93> slow as hell though
[08:44] <nima> UmM madpilot ... if i want to install windows now doi have to format / delete ubuntu again !?
[08:44] <CrackersKeenan> nerdy2:  it seems to be extremely slow
[08:44] <nerdy2> oh yea that it is
[08:44] <redguy> maybe slow, but perfect rips
[08:44] <Madpilot> nima: no. read that wiki page that ubotu posted above ^^^
[08:44] <CrackersKeenan> defrysk:  is ubuntuguide really so bad?
[08:44] <redguy> you can tweak it to be faster anyway
[08:45] <nalioth_zZz> Madpilot: nima will need the recover ubuntu after installing windows page
[08:45] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: are you talking about grip or sound juicer?
[08:45] <AdmiralCrunch> CrackersKeenan, its helped me before
[08:45] <Madpilot> nalioth_zZz: right, forgot about that...
[08:45] <CrackersKeenan> admiralcrunch: me too, many times.  some people pay out on it though
[08:45] <geneo93> redguy:  if you have 300+ cds to rip use musicmatch
[08:45] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: grip, the speed seems to heavily depend on the drive
[08:46] <redguy> geneo93: musicmatch you say?
[08:46] <CrackersKeenan> redguy:  mine will be slow then, my computer is a bit of a dinosaur
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> Tweaking you hdstat will make ripping faster
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> Grip is good program though
[08:46] <geneo93> redguy:  which drive the dual layer dvd or the harddrive
[08:47] <nima> that sounds easyy enough to have to OS
[08:47] <nima> but i have to formatt all ova again omg
[08:47] <redguy> geneo93: ?
[08:47] <nima> to have two OS*
[08:48] <geneo93> AdmiralCrunch:  i have a dually and i use both processors and its still slow
[08:48] <nima> What is best Winrar Program!?
[08:48] <geneo93> nima:  i have 7 oses
[08:48] <nima> Geneo .. wat da is der 7 OS ??? lol
[08:49] <nima> which 7 u haev?
[08:49] <geneo93> redguy:  it wont do more than 4x
[08:49] <redguy> geneo93: you were referring to "New Musicmatch Jukebox Plus 10"
[08:50] <nima> i need a Winrar tool and CD copying tool that u can copy ISO with ! ...
[08:50] <redguy> geneo93: I prefer amaroK, it doesn't cost 40$ and it runs on linux
[08:51] <Madpilot> nima: in Ubuntu or XP?
[08:51] <geneo93> suse mdk cooker mdk 10.2 ubuntu kubuntu beosR5 win98 se
[08:51] <geneo93> urar-nofree
[08:51] <nima> Ubuntu! ...
[08:51] <nima> yea unrar-nofree didnt work for me!.. or i dont know how to use it ! .....
[08:51] <Madpilot> nima: Ubuntu will burn ISOs right from Nautilus (the file manager)
[08:52] <geneo93> redguy:  i have old version of musicmatch from 2001
[08:52] <nima> ok and unrar-nofree how do i use it ( doesnt unrar the rar file i have )
[08:52] <redguy> geneo93: which runs on linux?
[08:52] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yay!  Any movies I try to stream from it are choppy, is there a way I can speed up the network, or is the old pc just the problem?
[08:53] <redguy> geneo93: so like a cd in 3-4 minutes?
[08:53] <geneo93> redguy:  yes musicmatch on linux not available anymore
[08:54] <geneo93> redguy:  about 5 minutes
[08:54] <redguy> seems fast
[08:55] <redguy> GlenC: hi again :-)
[08:55] <GlenC> hi
[08:55] <geneo93> thats at 160kbs
[08:55] <redguy> GlenC: you might check if you have dma enabled on the file server
[08:55] <GlenC> ?
[08:56] <redguy> GlenC: I mean harddrive dma
[08:56] <GlenC> redguy: ?
[08:56] <zerboxx> If my university uses VPN for wireless connetions, what is a good vpn client for linux? (they recommend Cisco, but they dont know much about linux so I want to dbl check)
[08:56] <redguy> GlenC: do you have ubuntu there?
[08:56] <geneo93> GlenC:  how old is it
[08:56] <GlenC> yes, redguy
[08:57] <GlenC> geneo93, it had win98 so more than 5 years probably
[08:57] <geneo93> puke cisco
[08:57] <HappyFool> 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' will tell you if dma is on (it should be)
[08:57] <geneo93> is that video your streaming
[08:58] <zerboxx> geneo93: "puke cisco" I assume then it's bad, so would you recommend anything else?
[08:59] <geneo93> anything but cisco
[08:59] <durt> let me see that thong
[08:59] <zerboxx> geneo93: lol, well since I'm not sure of the options, other then searching synaptic for "vpn" can you be any more specific? ;)
[09:00] <geneo93> zerboxx:  just search in synaptic for vpn it should give you lots of choices
[09:01] <geneo93> i cant do it at the momet have something going like apt getting todays updates for breezy
[09:02] <geneo93> thats why the lag
[09:02] <moomooboy-brb> hi can anyone tell me why my laptop cant run on 1024x768 .. :( its a 14.1 inch screen
[09:03] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> that sucks.
[09:03] <redguy> maybe it's broken?
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> lol
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> it will run
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> but it looks fizzy :(
[09:03] <durt> fizzy?
[09:03] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> did you try shouting at it? it worked in dune.
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> lol
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> yeh like the letters arent focused
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> in 800 or 1024?
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> 1024
[09:04] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: just the letters?
[09:04] <durt> is it showing 96 dpi?
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> 96 dpi?
[09:04] <geneo93> try 75
[09:04] <durt> system>preferences>font
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> your name is durt.
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> ill try now ^^..
[09:04] <durt> damn straight
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> do pictures come through okay?
[09:05] <durt> is it just the text?
[09:05] <CrackersKeenan> anyone know how to convert oggs to mp3s?
[09:05] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> no
[09:06] <redguy> if it's just the text then font rendering should be set to subpixel rendering. I think you can do it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:06] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: why would you want to do that?
[09:06] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: you would lose quality
[09:06] <HappyFool> use ogg123 to get them to .wav, and lame to get them to mp3. one apparently loses audio quality (how much, i don't know) doing this.
[09:07] <geneo93> use flac its much better
[09:07] <durt> no, use wav
[09:08] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: thinking of saving space.  will see how it goes using xmms with oggs.  But also one day I'll want to load these songs onto an mp3 player, and I"m thinking ahead  :)
[09:08] <xmachine> ei guys, need help. my X takes too long come up after gdm login. im using xorg.
[09:08] <xmachine> repeated xorg logs like
[09:08] <xmachine> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[09:08] <xmachine> (II) RADEON(0): [RESUME]  Attempting to re-init Radeon hardware.
[09:08] <xmachine> (II) RADEON(0): [agp]  Mode 0x1f000201 [AGP 0x8086/0x1a30; Card 0x1002/0x4c57]
[09:08] <moomooboy-brb> nope it wasnt the fonts :(
[09:09] <moomooboy-brb> i really wanan run 1024x768 T.T .. 800x600 just looks ugly
[09:09] <durt> did you see if the fonts were at 96 dpi?
[09:09] <durt> and your screen too?
[09:09] <moomooboy-brb> yeh it was on 96
[09:10] <moomooboy-brb> my screen?
[09:10] <moomooboy-brb> i changed the font to 75
[09:10] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: your player doesn't support Vorbis files?
[09:10] <durt> you need to add a line to xorg.conf
[09:10] <adriyel_rakham> may I make a suggestion? use mplayer, all my media files work with it :)
[09:10] <durt> but im not sure what "DisplaySize" should be
[09:10] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: it does... but I thought the oggs would be huge.  in fact they seem to be only 3-4 megs just like an mp3.
[09:10] <Madpilot> use Totem, all my media files work with that... ;)
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, ogg's are really just a sister format to Mp3, except its free and open
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham> Madpilot, oh yeah? what about windows audio/video?
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham>  :P
[09:11] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: .flac is the lossless, big format for music; .ogg is lossy like mp3
[09:11] <geneo93> flac is big
[09:12] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham - thanks for that... i didn't know that.  I also noticed sound recorder goes to ogg format.  so I can release my "spoken word" pieces on the web as oggs  ;)
[09:12] <Madpilot> adriyel_rakham: my install of Totem plays wmv perfectly; I don't seem to have any .wma files around, but I assume they work...
[09:12] <durt> moomooboy-grb: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[09:12] <CrackersKeenan> madpilot: ok... I'll probably stick to oggs just cause they take up less space.  Does a typical mp3 player support oggs?
[09:12] <moomooboy-brb> i took a screenshot
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> im gonna take a look @ it
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> Madpilot, sweet. I just like Mplayer because it plays everything without installing libs and such
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> if its the same in the pic
[09:13] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: no idea. I've heard that iRivers wil support .ogg, though
[09:13] <redguy> ogg isjust a container format, the sound codec is Vorbis
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> then ill send it to one of you's :)
[09:13] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  what brand
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, no it does not. Only a select few will
[09:13] <CrackersKeenan> everyone:  thanks.  I don't actually have an mp3 player yet but will be looking in the next few months.
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, your largest audience in that respect will be the iPod, which does NOT support ogg atm
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> iRiver support I believe is there
[09:14] <durt> has anybody ever purchased one of those really cheap music players on ebay?
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> durt, no?
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> music player is a little vague to me
[09:14] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: do you reckon it is just a matter of time until they do?
[09:14] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: buy one supporting vorbis then :-)
[09:14] <durt> like a nomad zen for 20 bucks
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> meh...
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> I'd like to
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> but I won't take the risk
[09:15] <durt> thats what im worried about
[09:15] <durt> its tempting though
[09:15] <moomooboy-brb> errr the screenshot looks perfect :|
[09:15] <geneo93> i have a rio 800 and use rioutils
[09:15] <moomooboy-brb> sigh ill take a look @ that link now durt
[09:15] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, I reckon its a matter of time, and about fscking time until a lot of open source/free things get supported, it'll all come in time, if I were you I'd keep an eye on opensource/multimedia news if you want to keep updated on that
[09:15] <intelikey> quite a bot swarm out there....
[09:15] <CrackersKeenan> this forum is very cool.  Everyone knows heaps of stuff.
[09:15] <durt> send me your screenshot
[09:15] <Madpilot> geneo93: do the Rios support .ogg?
[09:16] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham:  will do
[09:16] <geneo93> no CrackersKeenan
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> but the screenshot looks perfect in the pic..
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> im checking this on my winxp comp
[09:16] <intelikey> i need to configure X  and  i haven't got a clue where to start...   ?
[09:16] <geneo93> Madpilot:  no
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> all i can say is.. it looks pixelated..
[09:16] <CrackersKeenan> I'm gonna see if kino supports my video camera in terms of taking captures this afternoon.  This stuff was unthinkable in red hat 7  :)
[09:17] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> how do you create a shortcut!
[09:17] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: you need subpixel rendering
[09:17] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I can't figure out how to create a desktop shortcut in this thing.
[09:17] <durt> is it at its hights resolution?
[09:17] <eob84> does anyone know where I can download a deb package for qflash?
[09:17] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: right click, 'Create Launcher' is one way
[09:17] <CrackersKeenan> geneo93:  "no" to what?
[09:17] <moomooboy-brb> yeh 1024x768 .. 14inch on my lcd should be able to support that..
[09:17] <moomooboy-brb> subpixel?
[09:18] <geneo93> oh just no oggs in rio
[09:18] <durt> go to fonts again moo
[09:18] <moomooboy-brb> yup and thenz?
[09:18] <durt> eob84, why not get the binary?
[09:19] <intelikey> help with X  ???
[09:19] <durt> select the subpixel smoothing choice or whatever moo
[09:19] <durt> intelikey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <moomooboy-brb> yep.. it didnt work lol
[09:19] <eob84> durt, I did
[09:20] <PurpleMotion> hey folks, i got bored here at my brothers house, and decided to put together that inu yasha desktop ive been on about lately.. well, here it is.. http://www.daede.com/InuYasha-Desktop/
[09:20] <redguy> intelikey: why do you need to configure X?
[09:20] <eob84> durt, but I was wondering if there was a install for it
[09:20] <moomooboy-brb> its as if the fonts arent together .. its broken and aint focused together
[09:20] <intelikey> durt  ty
[09:20] <durt> eob84, did you read the readme or the install file?
[09:21] <eob84> durt yea
[09:21] <durt> and it didnt install?
[09:21] <eob84> durt it works fine... I would just prefer a deb package... if I can't find one no big deal
[09:21] <durt> oh
[09:21] <redguy> PurpleMotion: too red for me I would get aggresive :-)
[09:22] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> and the ubuntu md5 utility is?
[09:22] <moomooboy-brb> does anyone else have this problem?
[09:22] <moomooboy-brb> ive installed ubuntu on my toshiba tecra
[09:22] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: md5sum on the command line
[09:22] <PurpleMotion> redguy, inu yasha is an aggressive fellow
[09:23] <durt> moomoo: wanna send me your screen?
[09:23] <CrackersKeenan> Those who run the Firestarter firewall:  what do you do about "serious events"?
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> sure.. but when you load it up ..
[09:23] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> md5sum /path/filename?
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> its looks perfect lol. i dont know why lol..
[09:23] <HappyFool> moomooboy-brb: have you looked at the 'FixVideoRes' page on the wiki?
[09:23] <PurpleMotion> ever notice the kdm session and shutdown menus fonts are garbled..
[09:23] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: yeah; you can also specify a checksum file to check against
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> ill take a look @ that now happy
[09:23] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: try restarting X after enabling that subpixel-something
[09:24] <HappyFool> !resolution
[09:24] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  its prolly your isp pinging you
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> !start a wm war
[09:24] <ubotu> No idea, PurpleMotion
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> grrr
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[09:24] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Wish i knew
[09:24] <redguy> !start a language war
[09:24] <ubotu> VB.Net is better than C#!
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> BLAH
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> someone cleaned the bot
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> !start an editor war
[09:25] <ubotu> gvim is better than xemacs
[09:25] <intelikey> errr  durt "Please enter the video card's bus identifier.    PCI:0:14:0 "  but  lspci says "0000:00:0e.0 VGA"   what should i enter ?
[09:25] <CrackersKeenan> hey I wonder if I have latex
[09:25] <geneo93> ubotu:  python is better
[09:25] <ubotu> geneo93: okay
[09:25] <redguy> e=14
[09:25] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> the same. yay!
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> !python
[09:25] <ubotu> python is, like, better
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> lol
[09:25] <durt> intelikey: no idea, iguess just hit enter
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> you just assigned 'better' as the factoid for pythin
[09:26] <xavatar> hi... did someone manage to make mythtv work ???
[09:26] <geneo93> ubotu:  twisted
[09:26] <ubotu> geneo93: No idea
[09:26] <PurpleMotion> err python
[09:26] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> ubotu: I like candy.
[09:26] <ubotu> Cry_ubuntu_livec: Are you on ritalin?
[09:26] <moomooboy-brb> oh another problem lol.. when i click restart with ubuntu.. my laptop goes to a black screen and doesnt restart lol
[09:26] <xavatar> Not compiled with any useable video output method.
[09:26] <xavatar> it says ...
[09:26] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell geneo93 about bot-abuse
[09:26] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> ubotu: I used to be, but now I'm just...what was I saying?
[09:26] <ubotu> Cry_ubuntu_livec: Are you on ritalin?
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell geneo93 about botabuse
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, forget python
[09:27] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> okay, rebooting, and installing. see ya.
[09:27] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: i forgot python
[09:27] <CrackersKeenan> ubotu are you female?  care for a date tonight?
[09:27] <ubotu> CrackersKeenan: Are you smoking crack?
[09:27] <geneo93> anyone that use vb.net should have metal exame
[09:27] <CrackersKeenan> lmao
[09:28] <CrackersKeenan> that was awfully quick
[09:28] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, python is an easy-to-learn yet powerful programming language! http://www.python.org/
[09:28] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[09:28] <jtan325> python is sweet
[09:28] <rumo> was/is there a attack on this channel?
[09:28] <geneo93> and twisted is an extention of python
[09:28] <CrackersKeenan> is python like perl?
[09:28] <adriyel_rakham> rumo, a bot attack or something
[09:28] <jtan325> like any code - half its lines = python equivalent
[09:29] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, in its purpose yes, Perl and Python differ in many ways though, besides syntax
[09:29] <redguy> spambots perhaps
[09:29] <geneo93> perl anit even close to python
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> eh
[09:29] <redguy> hah
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> perl's pretty powerful
[09:29] <redguy> really geneo93 ?
[09:29] <adriyel_rakham> I prefer python, but perl is still very nice
[09:29] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: thanks.  By the way, that ubotu *is* a bot, right?  did you see the smackdown it gave me above?
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, it's a bot
[09:30] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[09:30] <ubotu> redguy: Wish i knew
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, pretty entertaining bot, at that
[09:30] <CrackersKeenan> purplemotion:  see what it did when I propositioned it?  It didn't miss a beat lol
[09:30] <durt> c is the best language
[09:30] <CrackersKeenan> durt: you're right but it sucks at strings
[09:30] <geneo93> ubotu:  needs a fix of morphine
[09:30] <ubotu> geneo93: I give up, what is it?
[09:31] <ompaul> !ubotu
[09:31] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, it also does that if you mispell a factoid trigger
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, Ubotu is a bot, but not a spambot like what we got earlier
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> ubotu: you make me hot
[09:31] <ubotu> CrackersKeenan: I don't know
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, what is a bot?
[09:31] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I think you lost me on that one
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> lol ok
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, ask me if im smoking crack
[09:31] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Syntax error in line 1
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> etc
[09:31] <ompaul> hahah
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> oh mah gosh...how long did it take you guys to figure that out?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> he's fun
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham:  we got a spambot??
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> ubotu, whois PurpleMotion
[09:31] <ubotu> adriyel_rakham: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> but dont talk to him too much in the channel
[09:31] <geneo93> ubotu:  gimme money
[09:31] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, geneo93
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> some people get anal about it
[09:32] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, many spam bots, earlier, why?
[09:32] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[09:32] <ubotu> hmm... msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please.
[09:32] <durt> who takes anal?
[09:32] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: i just never noticed.  Were they offering fake degrees?    Any idea what the problem may be?
[09:34] <PurpleMotion> same deal
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> DRI is a piss poor excuse for a video driver, thats what it is
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> it allows your programs to interact directly with the rendering layer of your video card
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, my compliments exactly.
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> pffft
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> PurpleMotion, we have OpenGL and DirectX for that, THANK YOU.
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> dri works wonderfully on my radeon 9250
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> did you just say directx?
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> why are you using Linux with an ATI card again?
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> you're fired
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> you lost me @ radeon.
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> and uhh, dri and opengl work lovely together
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> (you aren't familiar with cedega are you?)
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> yah yah yah
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> not all games have Linux installers/binaries.
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> it's not linux native, and i dont use it to make money, so i couldn't care less about it :D
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> not everyone plays games
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> cedega-cvs.
[09:37] <geneo93> well i'm off
[09:37] <adriyel_rakham> PurpleMotion, if you want to see Linux gain a huge margin, games gotta work, and work elegantly
[09:37] <m0r0n> but everyone should play games :-)
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> i couldnt care less if it gains a huge margin
[09:37] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, then make some for us :D
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> I've been using it exclusively for years, and conclusively for a decade
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> that's good enough for me
[09:38] <DjKritical> Whats the command to stop the X server?
[09:38] <redguy> m0r0n: about your apache, anything usefull in /var/log/apache2/?
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, I am talking about commercial/popular games
[09:38] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:38] <tweekken__> conclusively        nice
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> wait, which reminds me
[09:38] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: Doesn't that restart it?
[09:38] <m0r0n> redguy, no entry in these files
[09:38] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: I want to stop it completely
[09:38] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, who gives about a friggin' margin..  use whatever works for you.   This has to do with Linux doing anything but dying off
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, no, kdm/gdm restarts itself. hit ctrl-alt-f1, login as yourself, type "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" (or kdm, whatever), then type "killall -9 X"
[09:39] <redguy> m0r0n: what does /etc/init.d/apache2 start do exactly? what is 'nothing'?
[09:39] <rumo> adriyel_rakham, ok. my irc seemed to got attacked too :o\
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> err
[09:39] <nerdy2> not to mention that has nothing to do with gaining a huge margin,   sure it seems like that's all that's useful when you are 17,  but i haven't met anyone in a long time who gives a crap about computer games
[09:39] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, ugh.
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> sudo before each of those
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> this has to do with the fact that over 3/4's of the users using Windows who are savvy enough to pick up Linux without many issues, and would be more likely to welcome a change, ARE GAMERS
[09:39] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, I think I know an OS that is dying off, and it's certainly not Linux.
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> these same GAMERS, are the same people who tech support for mom&pop
[09:39] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: thanks!
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> linux is never going to die off
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> you must be 'one of those'
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> lol.
[09:40] <m0r0n> redguy, I dont get a message after the statement
[09:40] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, anytime :) service with a smile
[09:40] <intelikey> hehhe ooops  sudo is not installed here....
[09:40] <m0r0n> and it is not running
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> anything can die off, if it fails enough, Linux won't die off anytime soon, especially given the zealotry behind it
[09:40] <nerdy2> it has nothing to do with zealotry, i can get so much more done in linux
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> however, it'll never get much farther than it has in the desktop market unless games gain more compatibility, speed, support, and performance
[09:40] <tweekken__> linux will not die but fragmentation  due to  too many silly distributions hurt a bit
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> tweekken__, too late
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> nerdy2, I can get more done in Linux too, whats why I use it
[09:41] <redguy> m0r0n: try invoke-rd.d apache2 restart
[09:41] <nerdy2> it works better, it has a more powerful command line, one can script it easily -- it's not going to die off because it's easier to do things
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> but joe average joe doesn't give a shit, his computer just works
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> but as it's currently setup, the ones who DO switch over, 80% of the time, end up being the ones we want anyways... i know *I* sure as hell don't want to see a massive influx of cl00bies who just figured out how to get advent rising to play on linux.....
[09:41] <JDahl> why would linux die? what alternative would people who like linux for programming with gnu etc. use?
[09:41] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: It says that Gnome isn't running.. but it is?