[02:05] <kiti> hi evrybody
[02:06] <kiti> is there intel hd graphics driver for kubuntu 16.04?
[02:07] <kiti> on intel web site the latest version of ubuntu is 15.10
[02:07] <kiti> for intel drivers
[02:07] <soee> !intel
[02:34] <kiti> i915 driver for ubuntu
[02:50] <Guest82> hi
[05:14] <spritzikowski> where can I get ubuntu-dvd for direct install beneth windows in germany/essen
[06:02] <Wiz-TDD> Hi
[06:02] <Wiz-TDD> I'm having a problem with my Kubuntu 16.04 since a few weeks/updates, my numeric keypad is not working anymore
[06:02] <Wiz-TDD> (tested ok on my 14.04)
[06:02] <Wiz-TDD> anyone aware of such an issue ?
[09:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !rkhunter
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !info rkhunter
[14:55] <ModManMatt> there we go
[14:56] <ModManMatt> hey guys need a bit of ghelp figuring out how to smb share i am turning this linux server into a shared storage for our windows network
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ModManMatt, install samba and set your share options for the directory in file/ properties
[14:58] <ModManMatt> i did that part i dont see anything in windows yet though
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ModManMatt, have you run the network/add network folder wizard in dolphin
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:00] <ModManMatt> no
[15:00] <ModManMatt> ok wizard is up
[15:01] <ModManMatt> webdev, ftp, microsft, ssh
[15:01] <BluesKaj> microsoft for the windows pcs
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ssh for any linux pcs
[15:01] <ModManMatt> name, server, folder
[15:02] <theteju> hey guys,, CAn anyone help me to get my soundcard working ? I am on Kubuntu 14.04.4 32 bit version.
[15:02] <ModManMatt> i wanted to go the other way though i want the windows pc to access the linux shared folder
[15:02] <BluesKaj> thewn install Putty in windows
[15:03] <ModManMatt> wow putty reALY?
[15:03] <ModManMatt> setup like a sftp?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> it's actually ssh
[15:03] <theteju> kernel 4.2.0-38-generic
[15:03] <BluesKaj> anyway , i have to go , my lawnmower awaits
[15:03] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:03] <ModManMatt> lol ok thanks for clarifiying
[15:15] <BuddyButterfly> hi
[15:15] <jimarvan> hello :)
[15:15] <BuddyButterfly> Kubuntu xenial still not working out of the box with kvm and virt-manager.
[15:15] <BuddyButterfly> jsut downloaded the iso and started it from iso.
[15:15] <BuddyButterfly> screen stays black.
[15:15] <BuddyButterfly> same was with 15.10.
[15:16] <BuddyButterfly> vm has default configuration with spice, etc.
[15:16] <jimarvan> ye I heard reports about VM problems
[15:17] <jimarvan> did you check the forums?
[15:17] <BuddyButterfly> no, just wanted to report.
[15:17] <BuddyButterfly> have no time for this.
[15:17] <jimarvan> Alright
[15:17] <BuddyButterfly> will use xubuntu.... works.
[15:17] <BuddyButterfly> at least in the VMs.
[15:17] <jimarvan> fair enough :)
[15:17] <BuddyButterfly> on hardware I use only Kubunt :-)
[15:18] <BuddyButterfly> but will check with virtualbox right now also....
[15:22] <BuddyButterfly> jimarvan: ok, runs up on virtualbox. though, only with 1024x768.
[15:22] <BuddyButterfly> but I know, there is a trick to increase resolution and to get it to work with VB.
[15:22] <jimarvan> ye
[15:22] <jimarvan> you have to install the virtualbox client package
[15:22] <jimarvan> the addon, to make it work properly with resolutions
[15:22] <BuddyButterfly> ah, install in livecd...
[15:22] <BuddyButterfly> right, will be saved in ram.... good idea to test.
[15:23] <jimarvan> :)
[15:23] <jimarvan> dont use the ubuntu one
[15:23] <jimarvan> use the virtualbox one
[15:23] <BuddyButterfly> argh...
[15:23] <BuddyButterfly> ah, have to add second cd ....
[15:23] <jimarvan> xD
[15:24] <jimarvan> no you dont :P
[15:24] <jimarvan> just go to virtualbox
[15:24] <jimarvan> on the tools menu i think
[15:24] <jimarvan> you got the option to install the addon packages
[15:24] <jimarvan> it will remove the cd drive and replace it with the virtualbox iso :)
[15:25] <jimarvan> sudo ./VboxLinuxAdditions.run
[15:25] <jimarvan> and you are ready to go :0
[15:25] <jimarvan> (or something like that, cant remember exactly the name)
[15:25] <jimarvan> also sudo apt-get install dkms prior
[15:25] <jimarvan> just in case
[15:26] <BuddyButterfly> ok, .....
[15:26] <jimarvan> come in private :D
[15:26] <jimarvan> and I'll help
[18:54] <Wiz-TDD> hi
[18:55] <Wiz-TDD> I'm on kubuntu 16.04 and since a few updates, my numeric keypad is not working anymore. Anyone heard of such an issue ? Still works fine on my kubuntu 14.04
[18:59] <soee> hmm nope :/
[18:59] <soee> try keyboard layout, maybe it chnged or something ?
[18:59] <Wiz-TDD> i did already
[18:59] <Wiz-TDD> i can try with foreign layouts (i'm french)
[19:01] <Wiz-TDD> same with gb layout
[19:02] <BluesKaj> Wiz-TDD, which keypad, the right hand group or the number keys across the top?
[19:02] <Wiz-TDD> the right hand group
[19:04] <BluesKaj> numbers lock ?
[19:04] <Wiz-TDD> I can lock/unlock (the num led turns on/off when pressing num/lock)
[19:06] <Wiz-TDD> hmmm no matter if lock on or off, the 2/4/6/8 keys move the mouse pointer
[19:06] <Wiz-TDD> and 5 is actink like click
[19:07] <Wiz-TDD> fixed it....
[19:07] <Wiz-TDD> I feel stupid
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Wiz-TDD, system settings>input devices>keyboard>hardware>check the turn on numberlock
[19:08] <Wiz-TDD> there was an option in the mouse config to move the mouse with keypad
[19:09] <Wiz-TDD> input devices > mouse >mouse move > uncheck move the mouse with the keyboard
[19:09] <Wiz-TDD> (not sure the exact item names as mine is in ffrench
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Wiz-TDD, that's not the setting I was referring to, I repeat : system settings>input devices>keyboard>hardware>check the turn on numberlock
[19:13] <BluesKaj> whatever that may be in french
[19:14] <Wiz-TDD> with the setting I referred to, it is now fixed and working the way I want :)
[19:14] <Wiz-TDD> the setting you mentionned is there to set whether the numeric keypad is activated or not at startup
[19:14]  * BluesKaj shrugs ...simple is best
[19:15] <Wiz-TDD> yeah I leant the "KISS" principle when working in a US company ;)
[19:52] <NozePRDN> Hi all, i search the channel for kubuntu fr ? help please =)
[19:53] <dax> ubottu: fr
[19:54] <dax> (#kubuntu-fr goes to #ubuntu-fr)
[20:00] <NozePRDN> @dax Thank's


[05:16] <Qweyr> Help
[14:56] <popey> o/
[15:00] <CoderEurope> QUESTION: Last week you propose that I change the battery on my U.T. Nexus 4. How exactly do I do that if the battery is not detachable ?
[15:02] <dragonbite> 'ello!
[15:02] <mhall119> ask your questions here starting with QUESTION in all caps right here
[15:03] <dragonbite> It's buffering for me... ugh.  Anybody else?
[15:03] <rip_harambe2016c> QUESTION: Where is ubuntu 16.10 beta 2 ?
[15:04] <mhall119> http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-europe/
[15:04] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: any news on new ubuntu phones?
[15:05] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: do you know any german words? :D
[15:06] <mhall119> bratwurst
[15:06] <mhall119> schnitzel
[15:06] <mhall119> mostly food-related words :)
[15:06] <HotPotatoe_> :))
[15:06] <HotPotatoe_> and maybe mercedes, porche, bmw
[15:07] <diddledan> dumkopf
[15:07] <HotPotatoe_> bless you
[15:08] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/
[15:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:08] <mhall119> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2016/09/27/learning-to-snap-with-codelabs/
[15:08] <HotPotatoe_> hi SebthreeBQM10HD :D do you have a tablet?
[15:08] <mhall119> snap install snap-codelabs
[15:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> QUESTION: popey you got a Tizen phone don't you, which one? What you think of Tizen?  My Tizen Z1 has come recently :).  mhall119 do you have Tizen
[15:09] <mhall119> http://localhost:8123/
[15:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> HotPotatoe_, yep and some other interesting Linux based devices as well :d
[15:09] <HotPotatoe_> hehe, nice :D
[15:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> HotPotatoe_, first time playing with Tizen :D just seen a bit before
[15:10] <Seferi> QUESTION : Nextcloudbox seemed very consumer ready so i jumped on it. But i had problems adding the harddrive because of permission problems. Will there be a noob manual for nextcloud box?
[15:11] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: what ubuntu devices do you use? and what are the most interesting
[15:11] <SebthreeBQM10HD> HotPotatoe_, popey loves his pro 5, but the tablets are something
[15:11] <Masternoob> QUESTION: Why are the Ubuntu Touch core apps so "abandoned"?
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Masternoob,  how so?
[15:12] <HotPotatoe_> SebthreeBQM10HD: i think he also have the mx6
[15:12] <CoderEurope_> QUESTION: Has, or do you know of anyone - who has tried getting an Android Meixu - and flashing UTouch onto it ?
[15:12] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no that's not out with ubuntu yet
[15:12] <HotPotatoe_> ah, right :d
[15:13] <HotPotatoe_> not yet
[15:13] <Masternoob> Most apps seam to be nealy dead in developement, there is a bigfix or two per month for some but most of them are still very basic and buggy...it doesn't semm like there is much developement time spent on the apps.
[15:14] <Jarlath> QUESTION: If you were a tree ... kidding! The amount of raw white light coming from the phone screen is hard on they eyes at night. Is that something the team are aware of?
[15:14] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: how many apps are available on ubuntu phone and why there are not more apps?
[15:14] <CoderEurope_> QUESTION: Twitter is being sold to Disney - Is Canonical being sold to the bing-ites ?
[15:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> CoderEurope_, really got  link for that?
[15:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> why would Disney want twitter, oh right loads of kids are on it as well hmm
[15:15] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: how hard is to snap the core apps?
[15:16] <dragos> QUESTION:Is ubuntu for android still avalable and if yes where I can find it?QUESTION:is it posible to port ubuntu desktop to an android phone?
[15:16] <dragonbite> QUESTON: what is the state of Ubuntu phone for devices other than BQ and Meizu?  or of Tablets?
[15:17] <CoderEurope_> SebthreeBQM10HD: https://redd.it/54nusl
[15:17] <sadhu> I am unable to uninstall wine 1.6 dependencies in ubuntu 16.04 lts. How can i purge wine1.6 dependencies?
[15:18] <Jarlath> QUESTION: A tremendous amount of work is done between OTAs that is obvious to the technical user but less so to the casual user. Do you think the OTAs are likely to have more directly user-facing changes in the future?
[15:18] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: what's the state of xenial on phones/tablets?
[15:18] <Masternoob> sadhu sudo apt-get purge wine ?
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I'm here :D
[15:18] <dragos> QUESTION:is wine avalable for snaps?
[15:18] <HotPotatoe_> sup
[15:18] <sadhu> But it does not work.
[15:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: HUD, New Scopes and messaging framework updates? x'D
[15:19] <HotPotatoe_> LOL
[15:19] <dragonbite> QUESTION: (dumb question probably) ... what does OTA stand for?
[15:19] <Masternoob> Over the air update
[15:19] <dragonbite> Thanks!
[15:19] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Got any plans for the week end?
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Popey where you at EGX or did you want to go?
[15:20] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: what is google's Andromeda?
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: is there any updates for mycroft on ubuntu?
[15:20] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: What features do you expect to come in this next OTA?
[15:20] <dragonbite> QUESTION; are tehre a lot of desktop applications that have not been updated for the mobile device? Or a list of applications that have/have not been updated to work in both environments?
[15:20] <HotPotatoe_> QUESTION: how do you review snaps?
[15:21] <Jarlath> QUESTION: What's your favourite unofficially supported device for Ubuntu Touch.
[15:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> QUESTION:  How much do you think in the UK a old mobile phone from the 80's or so would sell by the seller first, and then by smeone on a auction as well, and why for both?  Saw this on TV earlier.  It was suprsing how much they bought it from the seller for, but not how much it sold at the auction.
[15:21] <dragos> QUESTION:Can I use an raspberry pi as an router with ubuntu mate and using 2 network adapters?
[15:22] <dragonbite> How will you do the 2 network adapters?
[15:22] <dragonbite> built in and wi-fi?
[15:22] <dragonbite> (I keep forgetting about RPi3 having wifi built in)
[15:22] <Seferi> Thanks for answering Popey
[15:23] <dragonbite> Make a LEGO case!
[15:24] <Jarlath> QUESTION: In one of the Christian Bale Batman movies, Lucius connected audio input devices of all phones to create a sonar image of Gotham city. What's the ETA on this feature for Ubuntu Phone?
[15:25] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Are snaps available for other distributions? I know docker is available on other distributions as well as Ubuntu but is Snaps as widespread?
[15:26] <dragos> QUESTION:who remembers this:http://www.ubuntu.com/tv?
[15:26] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Are Snaps and Docker Containers compatible or easily ported to each other?
[15:26] <Masternoob> So whats a good starting point for somone wants to contribute to the core apps but has no idea about ubuntu app developement?
[15:27] <Jarlath> QUESTION: How hard do you laugh when people complain about a feature the phone doesn't have because Apple have it? :)
[15:28] <dragonbite> treeeeessss!!
[15:30] <diddledan> QUESTION: if you were a tree, and there's nobody around to hear you falling, how can I help improve snappy confinement issues with glib accessing files?
[15:30] <dragonbite> QUESTION: if I am running 16.04 and try to install Unity 8 and it fails, where should I go for troubleshooting and for feedback (for developers to know)?
[15:30] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Is Unity 8 planned for 17.04 or is there a definitive version that will use it?
[15:31] <diddledan> QUESTION: snappy phones. progress report. #makeitso.
[15:33] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Do you think Canonical has too many "irons in the fire" between mobile, snaps, core, desktop, etc.?  Do you think these slow down development of the projects?
[15:33] <nick001> QUESTON: why dont canonical hire 2-3 guys like mariogrip to port to Ubuntu touch new android devices? That would get a lot developers from the android community to check out ubuntu
[15:33] <dragonbite> KDE snap?  Sounds interesting....
[15:33] <diddledan> ooh, content snaps would be interesting for corebird which I've been working on - gstreamer would be good to have as a shared snap which corebird can rely on
[15:34] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Is Microsoft showing any interest in Snaps?  I have heard they are poking into Docker containers but wonder about Snaps.
[15:35] <diddledan> QUESTION: what's the progress on getting mir running for future desktop releases?
[15:35] <Nyxus> QUESTION: How is the code base convergence coming between the phone and desktop?
[15:35] <Ari__> How skilled would you say one has to be in order to actually be able to contribute to the development of core apps in a useful way?
[15:40] <Jarlath> QUESTION: How hard is it to fix bugs for the phone compared to the PC where everyone has the same hardware more-or-less?
[15:42] <CoderEurope_> dragos: Ubuntu TV is still going : https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuTV
[15:42] <nick001> QUESTION: Ubports seems pretty busy, and mariogrip seems to be really overloaded with work. is there anyway we as a community can help him?
[15:45] <Jarlath> QUESTION: Did you watch the debate last night?
[15:45] <dragonbite> Noooo!! No politics! ;)
[15:46] <Jarlath> QUESTION: What do you think of the interview question, "do you multitask?"?
[15:47] <caronte> Hi. Is there any plan to include more free software, such as wifi drivers missing?
[15:49] <Jarlath> QUESTION: When will the filemanager and document viewer (needs x86 build I think) be available/working for Unity 8 desktop?
[15:55] <diddledan> :-(
[15:55] <diddledan> no tree related q's?!
[15:55] <hwpplayer1> are they talking now
[16:02] <dragonbite> Thanks for answering the questions you got to! *wave*!
[16:02] <popey> thanks everyon!
[16:02] <popey> +e
[16:02] <guiverc> thanks alan, michael, & everyone.
[16:03] <mhall119> thanks everyone!


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[00:33] <mparillo> valorie: I have been having good luck with zsync
[00:33] <mparillo> Just was VERY slow this afternoon.
[00:34] <mparillo> zsync is perfect when you have a large file and only a small part of it changes.
[00:34] <mparillo> Like testing the endless stream of release candidates.
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[01:29] <valorie> zsync did indeed work perfectly once I used that instead of rsync
[01:31]  * DarinMiller :)
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 @tsimonq2, yes?
 @acheronuk, Nvm
 ok
[06:01] <valorie> hmmm, that did not go well
[06:01] <valorie> at all
[06:01] <valorie> figured out how to re-use the 3rd drive on this laptop to install the RC
[06:02] <valorie> on it, but first I couldn't click on anything, then it booted to a black screen
[06:02] <valorie> the upside: what took the longest was figuring out how to change the boot order
[06:03] <valorie> anyone know what the LP bug is about not being able to click on anything?
[06:04] <valorie> and what should I file against for booting into a black screen?
 depends where you think the issue might be. sddm, xorg, gpu drivers etc
[06:23] <valorie> how might I test to see which one it is?
[06:23] <valorie> I see now why I've not used this 3rd disk for this before -- I have to restart to do it
[06:23] <valorie> which is annoying
 that's the trick with a black screen. even I struggle. looks at dmesg, logs etc, where systemd got to....
[06:27] <valorie> it could be an nvidia issue
[06:27] <valorie> but this laptop also has the other option
[06:29] <acheronuk> could be. trying in a VM this morning, but that is all I can do this sec
[06:31] <valorie> also, live session (try kubuntu) was black screen
[06:31] <valorie> so I guess that's 3 bugs
[06:32] <acheronuk> did this machine works with previous 17.10 ISOs?
[06:33] <valorie> I'm running 17.10 now
[06:33] <valorie> but from an upgrade to alpha one
[06:33] <valorie> the cheaty way -- changing zesty to artful in my sources list
[06:33] <acheronuk> so never a recent 17.10 install then
[06:34] <valorie> never from an iso since I dunno when
[06:34] <valorie> the hard drives were moved over from my previous lappy
[06:41] <acheronuk> this machine is Nvidia. trying live session...
 live session with a bog standard as shipped Nvidia card (705) works here
[07:03] <valorie> dunno which card I have actuall
[07:03] <valorie> y
[07:04] <valorie> newish I imagine
[07:05] <valorie> https://gist.github.com/471d2e93e692d75a9da13475c5d510be is the hardware profile the qatracker asked for
[07:06] <valorie> gosh it's running hot
[07:08] <valorie> so I guess GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile
[07:08] <acheronuk> that's what it says
[07:09] <valorie> so top of qatracker says:
[07:09] <valorie> For problems encountered ...
[07:10] <valorie> ... during the installation itself:                         ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[07:10] <valorie> ... while booting the ISO image:                            ubuntu-bug syslinux
[07:10] <valorie> ... while booting the system after installation:            ubuntu-bug grub2
[07:10] <valorie> ... with the graphical display after installation:          ubuntu-bug xorg
[07:11] <acheronuk> lol. as with most Nvidia cards, if you google nvidia + your card number + linux + black scree, you get hits
[07:14] <acheronuk> right. gotta go. hope there is a workaround for those issues :/
[07:20] <valorie> ttyl
[07:20] <valorie> going to finish reporting the bugs then head to bed
[07:24] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1724467
[07:37] <valorie> bleah, it looks like to even fix anything I'll have to chroot in from the USB and put nomodeset in
[07:37] <valorie> what a pain and I'm not doing it tonight
[07:38] <hateball> valorie: why would you need to chroot to edit grub.cfg ?
[07:39] <hateball> To edit /etc/default/grub and regenerate "proper", sure, but I'd personally just liveboot and directly edit grub.cfg to get the installed system booted
[07:40] <valorie> it boots to a black screen
[07:40] <valorie> I installed to a different hd -- this fancy laptop has 3!
[07:41] <valorie> but now one boots to black
[07:41] <hateball> yeah, so put in usb, boot, edit grub.cfg on affected install?
[07:42] <valorie> the "try Kubuntu" option boots black too
[07:43] <valorie> anyway, almost 1am here and I'm not doin' nuffin more
[07:47] <hateball> valorie: you can press F6 (I think) to edit the grub boot line
[07:48] <hateball> And so you can append nomodeset to that as well
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[14:49] <marco-parillo> Last night from home, I successfully tested 64-bit in a VM. However, today, from work, I seem to have DNS problems in a 32-bit VM. Is anybody else testing 32-bit?
[18:23] <acheronuk> marco-parillo: weird. can't test at the moment
[18:35] <marco-parillo> I do not want to raise undue alarms, because last time my testing went south at work I learned that they installed a "man in the middle" proxy server. There were automated scripts to load certificates for the corporate laptops, but those did not get automatically installed in my VMs.
[19:22] <mparillo> My 32-bit DNS resolution on AA is magically working now. I wonder why in the same office, same host, same VM S/W, 64-bit was working, and 32 was not. But all fixed. I will mark two test cases as passed.
[19:22] <acheronuk> odd
[19:23] <mparillo> In the TTY I was getting a strange error when I tried to ping google.com; now I ge results
[19:24] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Did you ever get to preparing the 0 day SRU paperwork etc. and uploading that Frameworks package or am I free to upload that at the same time as menu-cache (also needs a 0 day SRU)?
[19:24] <mparillo> Something about temporary DNS something or other.
[19:24] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I left it for you
[19:25] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Excellent.
[19:25] <tsimonq2> While I'm at it, anyone have anything else I need to 0 day SRU in? :P
[19:26] <mparillo> Plasma 5.11.1
[19:27] <acheronuk> hahahaha
[19:27] <tsimonq2> Hehehehehehehe
[19:27] <tsimonq2> I might see if I can poke around and fix any other Lubuntu or Kubuntu bugs that seem easy
[19:28] <tsimonq2> For the life of me I can't figure out why the About box in Gnumeric doesn't show me credits, though...
[19:28] <tsimonq2> I've easily burned 5 or 6 hours if not more looking into that bug.
[19:28] <tsimonq2> I might end up paying someone more skilled in GTK 2 than I to fix it
[19:29]  * tsimonq2 shrugs
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[19:30] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: and #1719746 ?
[19:30] <tsimonq2> bug 1719746
[19:30] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/1719746
[19:30] <tsimonq2> Oh
[19:30] <tsimonq2> Shoot
[19:30] <tsimonq2> I might as well upload a fixed gdebi too
[19:31]  * tsimonq2 adds to todo list
[19:31] <acheronuk> yeah. not a big deal here, but I think that one may get noticed by some people
[19:32] <tsimonq2> Ubuntu MATE and Lubuntu ship with it by default...
[19:32] <tsimonq2> Sooo
[19:32] <tsimonq2> :)
[19:32] <tsimonq2> (might get some words from Wimpress if it isn't solved...)
[19:33] <acheronuk> it's one of those things that falls down the cracks
[19:33] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: But yeah, thanks for the pointer.
[19:33] <tsimonq2> SRU All The Things.
[19:33] <acheronuk> new linux users don't use it as in not the package manger
[19:33] <tsimonq2> True.
[19:33] <tsimonq2> Buuuuuut...
[19:33] <tsimonq2> It's still broken.
[19:33] <acheronuk> experienced users don't use it as it's too gui
[19:34] <acheronuk> yep
[19:34] <tsimonq2> Being out of it the past week certainly didn't help... Now I have to catch up on All The Things...
[19:35] <acheronuk> yeah, that was not good timing....
[19:35] <acheronuk> gotta run. back later, perhaps
[19:36] <acheronuk> or I'll catch up on what is left to do in the morning
[19:36] <valorie> sorry to bug out for awhile, but getting a flu shot
[19:38] <mparillo> Get the shot so you don't catch the bug.
[19:39] <tsimonq2> Bai acheronuk.
 Yes, bugz on the brain
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[21:12] <llucas> hi all
[21:12] <clivejo> hi llucas
[21:13] <llucas> So here is the link to Kubuntu 17.10 release video
[21:13] <llucas> https://youtu.be/eW2gEPUvJws
[21:14] <llucas> I can still do some small changes
[21:15] <llucas> lets call (the video) rc for now ;)
[21:16]  * clivejo really likes it!
[21:16] <clivejo> was hoping we would have a Kubuntu channel sorted out by now
[21:17] <tsimonq2> llucas: In the intro text, s/have/has/
[21:18] <clivejo> and has all the applications you need
[21:18] <clivejo> 0:08
[21:19] <llucas> ahh yes please check grammar ;p in all text
[21:19] <llucas> will fix it
[21:19] <llucas> btw where shoudl I upload the video?
[21:20] <llucas> or I can give you a link so you can do it yourself
[21:20] <clivejo> I'm not sure
[21:20] <clivejo> there was talk of having a Kubuntu channel
[21:21] <llucas> kubuntu podcast channel you mean?
[21:21] <clivejo> no, turning that into just Kubuntu
[21:21] <llucas> so what is the problem?
[21:22] <clivejo> maybe not having a podcast as histortically
[21:22] <llucas> just change the name
[21:22] <clivejo> the problem is getting the people with the access to do it :P
[21:24] <clivejo> I did ask for access, but don't think its been actioned yet
[21:25] <clivejo> ahoneybun do you have access?
[21:25] <ahoneybun> to what?
[21:25] <clivejo> YouTube channel
[21:25] <ahoneybun> I do
[21:25] <clivejo> did you read the notes of the meeting?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> the new show type I kinda did
[21:26] <ahoneybun> I've been out of the loop a bit
[21:27] <clivejo> maybe to have one channel "Kubuntu" and post all videos on it?
[21:27] <llucas> I think that only the owner can change the name of youtube channel
[21:27] <clivejo> what would be Rick Timmus I think
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Timmus lol
[21:28]  * clivejo growls @ tsimonq2
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Hey, people growl at me when I say Timmus!
[21:31] <clivejo> llucas: are you pretty well up on YouTube functionality?
[21:37] <llucas> clivejo well kind of it depends what needs to be done ;)
[21:37] <clivejo> try and make the channel more prominent on YouTube
[21:38] <clivejo> link to other videos like plasma releases etc
[21:38] <clivejo> reviews of Kubuntu by 3rd parties
[21:42] <llucas> try and make the channel more prominent on YouTube - that is the hardest part ;p the other two cases should be relatively easy
[21:46] <clivejo> can't get hold of Rick, probably have to wait until tomorrow
[21:46] <clivejo> so the channel can be renamed any time?
[21:47] <llucas> guys do you have google plus account?
[21:48] <clivejo> https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874
[21:49] <clivejo> again, I don't know who controls that!
[21:49] <clivejo> we also have https://plus.google.com/+KubuntuPodcast
[21:50] <llucas> well I guess that your channel is connected with that second g+ site
[21:54] <clivejo> valorie: do you have youtube access?
[21:55] <valorie> no
[21:55] <valorie> I think ahoneybun made the G+ podcast site?
[21:56] <clivejo> valorie: did you see the video?
[21:56] <llucas> ok please check my video once more time and if you have some suggestions  or you spotted some mistakes  in text please let me know
[21:57] <llucas> https://youtu.be/eW2gEPUvJws
[21:57] <valorie> oh thanks
[21:58] <clivejo> llucas: do you use kdenlive for that?
[21:58] <valorie> love it!
[21:59] <clivejo> just that small change
[21:59] <valorie> nice to see some KDE software featured there at the last
[21:59] <valorie> the music is nice and it looks good
[21:59] <llucas> clivejo blender
[22:01] <clivejo> do you do tutorial vids for KDE software at all?
[22:04] <llucas> only  official plasma release videos and some unofficial stuff on  my kdeok channel
[22:06] <llucas> however I hope that with Michael Tunnell  maybe we will
[22:06] <clivejo> I am of the opinion that KDE software should be showcased a lot better on Youtube
[22:06] <ahoneybun> valorie: google account really
[22:07] <llucas> clivejo like for example?
[22:07] <valorie> ahoneybun: what?
[22:07] <clivejo> all of it
[22:08] <ahoneybun> it's all one thing
[22:08] <valorie> what's all one thing?
[22:12] <llucas> valorie you said something about kde apps in the video or the lack of it if I understand correctly?
[22:12] <valorie> llucas: you featured one
[22:12] <llucas> as a matter of fact I wanted to add dolphin and gwenvew but
[22:12] <valorie> and to be fair, you featured the stuff that's new on the ISO this time
[22:12] <valorie> which is newsworthy
[22:13] <valorie> so YOU did a good job
[22:13] <ahoneybun> valorie: google+ , youtube
[22:13] <valorie> we didn't have much of a choice but to drop some non-building stuff etc
[22:13] <valorie> ahoneybun: ah
[22:13] <valorie> got it
[22:13] <valorie> so kudos llucas
[22:13] <valorie> thank you very much
[22:14] <llucas> actually I have all materials ready, for dolphin and gwenview ( screen recording + text)
[22:15] <llucas> I just didn't use that in the video
[22:17] <llucas> valorie is there a draft of  the  kubuntu 5.10 release announcement somewhere?
[22:17] <llucas> tfu 17.10
[22:18] <valorie> yes, all on the website
[22:18] <llucas> link please
[22:18] <valorie> ah, I doubt you can see it without editing credentials
[22:19] <llucas> screenshot would be fine
[22:19] <valorie> plus your vid isn't in it yet, etc.
[22:20] <llucas> valorie I asked Paul to mention Kubuntu 17.10 on our (kde) social channels
[22:20] <llucas> that is why I am asking
[22:21] <valorie> https://imgur.com/a/qKBK5
[22:25] <llucas> Maybe it would be good to put some screenshots  in there?
[22:25] <valorie> oh yes
[22:25] <valorie> that's just some text, no links yet, no screenies
[22:26] <llucas> ah ok so you will add it later?
[22:28] <valorie> yes
[22:28] <valorie> we have maybe 18 hours or so until release
[22:28] <valorie> lots more to do in that time
[22:28] <valorie> including testing, which I'm about to do
[22:31] <llucas> ok so where should I put final video?
[22:33] <valorie> I think on the kubuntu podcast channel
[22:34] <valorie> perhaps we can get rick to change the name by release time
[22:34] <valorie> does that sound right to everybody? ahoneybun, clivejo, acheronuk?
[22:35] <ahoneybun> I don't think you can
[22:35] <clivejo> yeah, but I dunno who has the keys
[22:36] <clivejo> I asked Rick to be added, but nothing yet
[22:36] <ahoneybun> mm I have the keys
[22:36] <ahoneybun> what name valorie ?
[22:37] <ahoneybun> Kubuntu Live Cafe
[22:37] <clivejo> the idea was to have just one channel "Kubuntu" and have videos properly tagged under that
[22:38] <clivejo> create playlists for 3rd party reviews etc
[22:39] <ahoneybun> changed to Kubuntu
[22:43] <llucas> ahoneybun how should I sent you a video?
[22:43] <llucas> gdrive is ok?
[22:46] <ahoneybun> Yea sure
[22:47] <llucas> will do, once i finish rendering of the video
[22:51] <clivejo> llucas: are you any good at artwork/banners?
[22:51] <genii> My spidey sense thinks someone is about to be volunteered
[22:52] <clivejo> I have tried, but my artist skills are non-existent :(
[22:52] <clivejo> https://i.imgur.com/Rkxt3CF.png
[22:53] <clivejo> https://i.imgur.com/NjB866W.png
[22:53] <clivejo> https://i.imgur.com/PcQPZOK.png
[22:54] <clivejo> we kinda want the wallpaper, Ubuntu Artful creature and Kubuntu logo in a nice banner
[22:56] <clivejo> and need it for tomorrow!
 I like the bold text from the first one and the opacity of the last one.
[23:01] <clivejo> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-September/011424.html
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[23:24] <llucas> clivejo  Ubuntu 17.10 logo looks like some anime girl
[23:25] <llucas> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJwznOHXoAAjtQr.jpg
[23:25] <llucas> hehe
[23:26] <llucas> clivejo maybe ask on kde vdg channel?
[23:26] <valorie> powerpuff girls?
[23:26] <valorie> they aren't quite anime I think
[23:28] <llucas> meh bad choice of words  on my side, more like comic ;)
[23:28] <valorie> sure
 Sorry, heading to bed. @llucas sure, ask the VDG group, but its very short notice :(
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[23:56] <llucas> ahoneybun?
[23:57] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:57] <llucas> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxDJoO8w2-J5dU1Tem8yU3JnTm8
[23:58] <llucas> you can upload it to kubuntu you tube channel
[23:59] <ahoneybun> Looks really good


[12:53] <davef> You'll all be pleased to know I got a negative malware test and return home tomorrow morning. All Jaffa Cakes will once again be safe.
[14:31] <zxmpi> \o/
[15:31] <daftykins> phew, well since you've been good, we'll bring a small slice out of the secret store that you can carry as duty free - then we'll repopulate the shelves once we verify you are onboard at departure ;)
[18:45] <davef> Sounds like a plan
[18:46] <daftykins> have a good time all in all?
[18:59] <davef> Oh yeah. It's been wonderful to reconnect with family after two years.
[19:01] <davef> And I will be back in August for my nieces wedding. I've been roped into being a groomsman.
[19:01] <davef> I just told them, make sure there's a bunch of single women about my age are there.
[19:02] <daftykins> :D
[19:02] <daftykins> the only reason to say yes to weddings
[19:14]  * davef needs to get .. *cough*
[19:17] <daftykins> nah you don't want covid ;)
[19:47] <davef> Lol, that's not what I need.
[19:47] <davef> Just trying to keep the chat PG
[19:50] <daftykins> heh yeah i thought i would misinterpret for comedy
[19:50] <daftykins> clearly you meant more jaffa cakes ^_^


[13:09] <soomsoom> hi
[17:03] <Avihay> http://eatthecat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/oops21-620x.jpg
[22:00] <Avihay> ok, this is really related to the group: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=785094444902821


[00:05] <Len-1204> knome, you are welcome, our menu files are a bit of a mess...
[00:06] <knome> :)
[00:10] <Len-1204> I think I will actually import the xubuntu file and edit/rename it.
[00:11] <Len-1204> Because our menu file has as much "funny" stuff as it does, I will probably comment it a bit more though.
[00:11] <Len-1204> It is handy having xubuntu on one drive and US12.04 on the other.
[00:14]  * knome is off for now
[00:14] <knome> see you later :)
[01:59] <Len-1204> ScottL, the menu file belongs in ubuntustudio-default-settings. How do I set up a bzr branch... first and second how do I set up a package that will not interfere with the settings package?
[02:01] <Len-1204> I could take over the menus file.... but it might be nice to leave it around as backup.
[02:03] <Len-1204> Anyway, gone for a minute to reboot. I think I have the menu done.
[02:09] <Len-1204> ScottL, I have removed the start file for menus as well as renaming the merge file.
[02:10] <Len-1204> after rebooting we seem to be using the one file in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus
[03:06] <ScottL> Len-1204, we can put the menu files into whatever package we want, we have it currently in the ubuntustudio-menu package and xubuntu has it in xubuntu-default-settings
[03:06] <ScottL> to streamline the process, i would suggest we just keep the menu in ubuntustudio-menu for now
[03:07] <ScottL> we always have the revisions in launchpad if we need to revert to a previous version
[03:08] <Len-1204> ScottL, Ok, what do I need to do to have access?
[03:09] <Len-1204>  I think I need to reboot to a permanent account so I can do an ssh key thing.
[03:15] <Len-1204> Time to reboot
[03:20] <ScottL> len-nb,  my suggestion would be to use bzr to pull the branch for ubuntustudio-menu
[03:20] <len-nb> Pull?
[03:21] <len-nb> ScottL, i thought I was putting stuff in it...
[03:21] <ScottL> aye, you are going to push, but not before pulling
[03:21] <len-nb> I have to get ssh stuff figured out first...
[03:22] <ScottL> because this is a version control system you want to pull the bzr branch from the main trunk first
[03:22] <len-nb> So they know I am who I am... whoever that is.
[03:22] <ScottL> no problem, but i'll still type this because i will probably be away from irc for a bit with the family
[03:22] <ScottL> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu says to
[03:22] <ScottL> Get this branch:
[03:22] <ScottL>     bzr branch lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu
[03:23] <len-nb> Ok,
[03:23] <len-nb> Does it end up on my system then?
[03:23] <ScottL> yes
[03:23] <len-nb> Or my own branch on theirs
[03:23] <len-nb> ok
[03:23] <ScottL> you will have a local copy of the code that you can change
[03:24] <ScottL> then you will push it to your own branch under your launchpad id
[03:24] <len-nb> ok
[03:24] <ScottL> also, you will probably want to set 'bzr whoami' as well
[03:24] <len-nb> ok
[03:24] <ScottL> and also 'bzr launchpad-login' or similar
[03:25] <len-nb> I have a login with them already
[03:25] <len-nb> or is this different?
[03:26] <ScottL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaunchpadStepByStepInstructions is an okay tutorial
[03:26] <ScottL> bzr whoami 'Your Name<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:27] <len-nb> I may have that already too. It spits that out when I login
[03:27] <ScottL> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html#publishing-your-changes
[03:27] <ScottL> this shows the launchpad login (which i think allows you to push to launchpad)
[03:28] <ScottL> and right below that section is the pushing to your own branch as well
[03:29] <len-nb> I could ask more questions, but it is prolly best if I work through the tut.. and stumble though
[03:29] <len-nb> I think you have given me enough.
[03:30] <len-nb> I'm going to try setting up the account and branch under my account first then pull and push.
[03:35] <len-nb> Anyone... I got two different ways of making an ssh key thrown at me
[03:36] <len-nb> when I try to make my own code branch it asks for rsa and the tutorial says dsa.
[03:37] <len-nb> what is the difference? and dose it matter which kind I use?
[03:37] <len-nb> s/dose/does
[03:58] <len-nb> bzr pull seems to be telling me I have to have a user called ubuntustudio-dev
[04:14] <len-nb> Ok, I used branch. I have a copy on my drive.... busy messing it up
[04:15] <len-nb> Then I guess I put it in my own branch and tell you it is there.
[04:35]  * micahg waves to ScottL
[07:47] <len-nb> ScottL: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-menu
[07:48] <len-nb> Off to bed
[09:43] <saidinesh5> hehe
[15:00]  * ScottL waves back at micahg
[15:00] <ScottL> micahg, i have the copyright file, but i have a concern
[15:00] <ScottL> the original image (start-here.svg) was in the ubuntustudio-icon-theme package....checking on version
[15:03] <ScottL> ubuntustudio-icon-theme version 58 in bzr
[15:03] <len> ScottL, good morning
[15:03] <ScottL> there is a copyright file but i can't tell who should be attributed to the image
[15:03] <ScottL> good morning len
[15:04] <len> I don't know if you saw things or not. I have only one question though.
[15:04] <len> does it matter who the owner on the files is? does it matter what group does it matter what permitions?
[15:05] <len> LP doesn't show any of that.
[15:05] <ScottL> i have not had to worry about that, len, so i suspect it does not
[15:05] <ScottL> as to why...i can't say thoughn
[15:05] <len> Makes sense as it is all copied by root.
[15:06] <len> Ok menus is done then.
[15:06] <len> ScottL, you will do the copy from where it is?
[15:09] <len> I don't know if it matters, but the copyright is set up to the person who first made the package... I don't know that there is anything in there that is original ;-)
[15:10] <len>  Maybe a few *.directory files
[15:13] <len> Does the copy right have to be a person? If it could be the project that would mean less worries.
[15:20] <len> All, The Meetings page lists the "next" meeting as last week. Is there one this week and where?
[15:21] <len> Speaking of the Meeting web page... the top still says first sunday of the month which last week was not. Should the web page be changed?
[16:24] <ScottL> len, i'm not up to date on how copyright files should be handled
[16:24] <ScottL> len, re: meeting - nobody is keeping up with the meeting wiki page and we had decided to do every 2nd week for meeting but that has fallen through mostly so i don't know how the meeting announcement should go at this time
[16:25]  * ScottL is off to the store, this is my weekend that i'm taking care of a lot of yard work
[17:31] <len> OK, I off to do stuff too.
[17:38]  * astraljava notices our meetings aren't effectively no more.
[18:58] <shnatsel> meeting? what? where?
[19:25] <astraljava> *sigh* bi-weekly formal, and alternating informal. But yeah, seems no one cares anymore.
[19:26] <astraljava> I shouldn't complain, though. I'm going to drop my contribution significantly, anyway.
[19:49] <micahg> ScottL: yeah, I'm not sure either, that was part of my hesitation in uploading originally
[21:00] <ScottL> micahg, there was a single copyright file with those images, i can make an authors file explaining that i created the images based on a previous image that is one of the other authors listed and even link to the original version of the code
[21:00] <ScottL> micahg, shouldn't that take care of the copyright (and author) file(s)?
[21:01] <micahg> yes, as long as we know who created and owns the copyright and what license's they're usable unser
[21:01] <micahg> created is less important than owns the copyright
[21:02] <ScottL> well, the original authors file listed a lot of authors but doesn't attribute to a particular image
[21:02] <ScottL> however, the copyright appears to be the same for all of them
[21:03] <ScottL> i'll be happy to license my work under the same (after i make sure it isn't something like MIT or other crazy one) to make it simple
[21:03] <ScottL> micahg, with ^^^ allow us to move forward then?
[21:04] <micahg> I think so
[21:05] <ScottL> okay, is there any reason that i can't update (or pull) the branch from bzr and add this?  (i.e. did you have other changes)
[21:05] <micahg> I pushed everything up IIRC
[21:06] <ScottL> okay, doing this now
[21:08] <micahg> I won't be able to upload for a few more hours, so no rush
[21:14] <len> ScottL, is the menu going to be included? or not yet? Maybe one thing at a time.
[21:49] <ScottL> len, i would say let's keep the menu in the menu package
[21:50] <ScottL> len, i would like to include it but i don't think we have time to get it by monday
[21:50] <ScottL> micahg, i have pushed to default-settings to bzr
[21:56] <len> I have left in the same package ScottL I think we will all be happy to have something that has X again right now.
[21:57] <ScottL> len, i don't think it's the menu package that is causing the loss of x, it was the lightdm configuration (which was in the -default-settings package) that was causing problem, i believe
[21:58] <ScottL> len, i'm sorry, i completely misread your statement
[21:58] <ScottL> disregard my previous statement
[22:00] <len> No prob. I'm going to finish what I have for panels. I want to have a clear drive for installs again this week.
[22:01] <len> I will do two sets. One with a second panel as on my web page and one without so it doesn't haunt us...
[22:02] <len> In both cases the clock will be replaced with orage. but look the same.... unless otherwise requested.
[22:03] <len> The main reason I wanted to be here for the meeting today was to see if there was a firm thought one way or the other about the second panel.
[22:05] <len> BTW I don't care if you use my panel setup (either one) I just spent some time on it and feel I shouldn't just toss it.
[22:06] <len> The panel stuff would be part of the settings package as it all ends up in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce (i think.
[22:07] <len> I can email the few files, or set up a branch in my login. Your choice...
[23:07] <len-nb> ScottL, Just checking through things to see what I could pull to base panel settings on.
[23:08] <len-nb> ScottL, found the settings package, but looking through things it looks like the menu files have already been merged into settings.
[23:09] <len-nb> Warning, if you grab my branch for menus and install it beside the current settings I think things may end up broken again.
[23:11] <len-nb> So it looks like ubuntustudio-settings and ubuntustudio-menus are no longer compatible.


[13:38] <realtime-neil> Does anyone else have trouble getting `preseed/early_command` and `preseed/late_command` to work in Ubiquity? Could I be doing better than just putting all my arbitrary shell tweaks into a `ubiquity/success_command`?
[13:40] <realtime-neil> One thing I have noticed is that a failure in the `ubiquity/success_command` is never communicated to the caller (which I'm assume is the Ubiquity UI).


[02:01] <mortenoh> anyone awake? have bad issues with email notifications...
[02:04] <mortenoh> bad as it seems to be sending out more than 20k old commit email to all our users..
[02:11] <wgrant> mortenoh: DO you have an example email?
[02:12] <mortenoh> its just regular commit emails
[02:12] <mortenoh> i pushed a new branch https://code.launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/2.21
[02:12] <mortenoh> and enabled email notification as i always do
[02:12] <mortenoh> just this time, it started from rev 1
[02:12] <mortenoh> (of almost 21k)
[02:13] <mortenoh> there must be some kind of max limit i hope
[02:13] <wgrant> You didn't do anything special, like cancel the initial push?
[02:13] <mortenoh> no
[02:13] <mortenoh> bzr push lp:~dhis2-devs-core/dhis2/2.21 from trunk
[02:13] <mortenoh> we have done this for at least 2 years or so
[02:14] <mortenoh> if someone can cancel the email queue somehow, that would at least make the emails stop
[02:16] <mortenoh> is this the expected behavior now? or a bug?
[02:16] <wgrant> It's a bug, possibly two scans raced.
[02:17] <wgrant> Trying to stop the flood now.
[02:17] <mortenoh> Ok, thank you
[02:17] <thumper> blr: can I have private blueprints?
[02:17] <thumper> I don't recall if anyone ever got around to adding privace to them
[02:17] <wgrant> thumper: Yes.
[02:18] <wgrant> Same as branch privacy.
[02:18] <thumper> wgrant: how?
[02:18] <wgrant> thumper: https://launchpad.net/PROJECT/+sharing
[02:19] <thumper> wgrant: who turns on the ability for us?
[02:19] <wgrant> thumper: The project needs to have a commercial subscription. Which project?
[02:20] <thumper> thinking juju-core, but chatting and perhaps we'll just live with public
[02:21] <wgrant> thumper: Let me know if you need any help.
[02:21] <wgrant> mortenoh: The flood should have stopped now.
[02:21] <wgrant> Tell me if it doesn't!
[02:22] <mortenoh> wgrant: seems to have stopped.. thank you, I will leave email notifications off for now..
[02:23] <wgrant> mortenoh: Two things raced to scan the branch at a time, so the normal checks against this were defeated.
[02:24] <wgrant> Some locking failed somewhere in a way that I haven't seen before.
[02:24] <wgrant> I'll purge the queue for that branch.
[02:24] <wgrant> And add more guards to prevent it from happening again.
[02:24] <thumper> wgrant: thanks
[02:24] <wgrant> Sorry about that, and thanks for letting us know about it.
[02:24]  * thumper wanders off again
[02:26] <mortenoh> wgrant: ok, thanks.. 3 months until next time I do it, so hopefully it will be fine :)
[17:14] <FlavioDicas> Hi guys