  It'd be super nice.  It's kino.
 Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls game.  :P
[00:37] <Wafficus> you know it would be sick wxl
[00:37] <Wafficus> wxl: You want people to migrate to Linux,cause it kicks ass
[00:37] <wxl> sick like snotty noses and gross, yes
[00:37] <Wafficus> GUI things help that a lot
[00:37] <wxl> anyways bbl
[00:37] <Wafficus> believe me I hate Windows 10's idea to basically copy Mac OS anyway
[00:37] <Wafficus> but there's some things that are actually good too my dude
 I'm actually +1 on right-click on desktop to lead to a menu to change the wallpaper.
 That's the original intent anyway.
[00:38] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: thank the Lord someone else thinks thats good
[00:39] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: cherry on the top would also have a desktop resolution menu choice, but hey its a start
 I disagree with your particulars but the general concept is good.
[00:39] <Wafficus> I don't mind scripts or menu dives, but think about an average user. You want to help someone with an old laptop give it new life and to want to use it, not scare them away immediately with scripts
[00:40] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: well my idea is to make it optional for slight Windoze users like me
[00:40] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: as long as the OPTION exists, I'll be happy tbh
 Let's discuss implementation details after the release.
 Plasma has wallpaper adjustment in the right click. I love that feature!
 Exactly.
[00:47] <Wafficus> now lets add desktop resolution too in that same right click ^_^
[00:55] <Wafficus> hey guys do you know how to sudo apt install qt?
 @TheWendyPower [Plasma has wallpaper adjustment in the right click. I love that feature!], They (lxqt-) might want to wait for Wayland for that
[01:06] <Wafficus> if I'm in the directory of a .run file, do I just do:
[01:06] <Wafficus> ./(name of .run file).run?
[01:06] <Wafficus> I tried that but am getting a permission denied
[01:13] <Wafficus> I'm getting it thankfully, forgot to do the chmod +x step to the .run fil
[01:13] <Wafficus> *file
[01:13] <Wafficus> its installing now
[01:14] <Wafficus> wxl: I installed the latest qt, as well as the tool kit thing as 3.0, that's ok right?
[01:14] <Wafficus> wxl: *rather its installing now
[01:20] <Wafficus> this QT setup is taking forever lol
[01:20] <Wafficus> at least I'm on the right track
[01:20] <tsimonq2> *Qt
[01:20]  * tsimonq2 trolls
[01:21] <Wafficus> lol
[01:21] <Wafficus> TheWendyPower: let me know if you find any good beginner resources, I'm still gonna use that guide I found on DuckDuckGo
[01:21] <Wafficus> TheWendyPower: for qt that is
[01:21] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: yeah I'm still impressed you're doing this in HS though dude, wish I was on that level then. You def got a future for this kind of stuff man
[01:24] <tsimonq2> Heh, thanks.
[01:24] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: how many programming langs do you know at this point?
[01:25] <tsimonq2> Uh, depends on what you mean. :P
[01:25] <tsimonq2> I've had to work with ~ 12.
[01:25] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: nice :0
[01:27] <tsimonq2> Wafficus: Once you know one really really well it's just a matter of picking up the nuances of other languages.
[01:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA2c1ce150f717: Explicitly enable encryption (thanks marneu!) & remove unnecessary postinst.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA2c1ce150f717
[01:28] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: True. I'm probably only like OKAY at Python now. Javascript is a close second
[01:28] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: I'm still only project based however
[01:30] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[01:30] <tsimonq2> You'll get there.
[01:30] <tsimonq2> We all do with enough elbow grease. :)
[01:30] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: rate my website though seriously: www.musimatic.net
[01:31] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: Is there anything else I could convince a future employer that I'm good at with?
[01:31] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: I'm wondering if they just wanna see projects
[01:31] <tsimonq2> Wafficus: Wanna take this to #lubuntu-offtopic https://telegram.lubuntu.me/offtopic :)
[01:32] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: sure
[01:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAffe03f31e517: Clean up the changelog.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAffe03f31e517
[01:40] <Wafficus> well I'm gonna keep trying to install qt guys
[01:40] <Wafficus> peace for now
[01:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS4bf7f727865c: Updated automirror for urllib.request] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS4bf7f727865c
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[02:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] isuzufan (Jeff) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2101
[02:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2102
[02:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEbf749f2bc809: DSC file for 20181007-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEbf749f2bc809
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[02:32] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: papirus-icon-theme (cosmic-proposed/universe) [20180816-1 => 20181007-1] (lubuntu) (sync)
 Weird question is i386 for an i7 processor like mine on the gaming comp?
 @Wafficus [Weird question is i386 for an i7 processor like mine on the gaming comp?], No
 Ah damn so which cosmic do i need
 Amd64?
 Yeah that's what I need I guess. Weirdly named cause what about Intel :/ either way I got it plus virtual box
 @Wafficus [Amd64?], Yeah
[03:53] <lubuntu> xit
 Wat?
[03:56] <Guest47590> how do I identify myself with weechat + irc?
[03:56] <Guest47590> Wafficus here on a virtual box emulated Lubuntu cosmic
[03:57] <Guest47590> like it so far btw, love the dark theme, sick as heck
[03:57] <Guest47590> I can't find out why it won't identify me on weechat
[03:57] <Guest47590> be back in a sec
[09:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVE1d1308a8fcf8: DSC file for 20181007-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVE1d1308a8fcf8
[12:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#2103
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[14:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPCMANFMQTARCHIVEf786978cd92e: Import patches-unapplied version 0.13.0-2ubuntu2 to ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTARCHIVEf786978cd92e
[14:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPCMANFMQTARCHIVEcecec3a0723d: Fix DND and drop indicator on desktop] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTARCHIVEcecec3a0723d
[14:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPCMANFMQTARCHIVE0a7662d28937: Always drop into the cell behind cursor] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTARCHIVE0a7662d28937
[14:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPCMANFMQTARCHIVE728205b2176c: Import patches-applied version 0.13.0-2ubuntu2 to applied/ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPCMANFMQTARCHIVE728205b2176c
[14:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#2104
[14:16] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you didn't get the webkit fixes in?
[15:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2106
 wxl: qt installed into home/sam/qt is that ok? Weird question
 @Wafficus [wxl: qt installed into home/sam/qt is that ok? Weird question], Maybe use the distribution packages.
 I don't know the binary package names offhand but they're provided by qtbase-opensource-src
 See the full list here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.11.1+dfsg-7ubuntu1
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you didn't get the webkit fixes in?], I haven't quite yet.
 Yeah I installed the open source variant latest version as well as the 3.0 tool kit
 Oh wait this is installed by default in cosmic?
 Or that's a cosmic based package list right?
 @Wafficus [Or that's a cosmic based package list right?], Yeah
[16:30] <wxl> @tsimonq2: webkit?
[16:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: dude, chill for a sec
[16:31] <tsimonq2> Hey @acheronuk, do you have upload access to qtwebkit?
[16:36] <acheronuk> in theory
[16:36] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: The time it will take me to test build this patch exceeds the time I have left at home before I have to leave.
[16:37] <acheronuk> is it building somewhere?
[16:37] <tsimonq2> It will be very shortly.
[16:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: Go test trojita.
[16:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: You'll have lots to test after the respin shortly. :)
[16:38] <wxl> i know :)
[16:39] <acheronuk> I have no context, as the backlog of lubuntu bot spam as hard to parse through
[16:39] <acheronuk> *is hard to
[16:39] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53
[16:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 18.10 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53
[16:39] <tsimonq2> "@tsimonq2 to patch webkit so that Trojitá plaintext mails display correctly"
[16:39] <tsimonq2> Link there to two commits.
[16:43] <acheronuk> don't see any
[16:43] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/annulen/webkit/commit/6faf11215e1af27d35e921ae669aa0251a01a1ab https://github.com/annulen/webkit/commit/76420459a13d9440b41864c93cb4ebb404bdab55
[16:47] <tsimonq2> wxl, acheronuk: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/qt/qt5webkit/compare/5847358b...0343d9f4
[16:48] <tsimonq2> wxl, acheronuk: Test build in ppa:tsimonq2/upload-testing.
[16:48] <tsimonq2> I'll also upload my signed .changes file et. al to people.ubuntu.com so if that build works, you can still blame me. :P
[16:49] <tsimonq2> Which means that wxl just has to download all the files and `dput ubuntu source.changes`
[16:50] <acheronuk> probably better
[16:50] <tsimonq2> But since I'll be ... physically unable to look at it after I leave today, if it breaks wxl it's on you.
[16:50] <wxl> uh wait i need to do what?
[16:50] <wxl> oh you want me to dput to a ppa of my own
[16:50] <tsimonq2> no
[16:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: My test build is in ppa:tsimonq2/upload-testing.
[16:51] <tsimonq2> If that passes, and you test it and it works, grab my signed package and upload it to Ubuntu.
[16:51] <wxl> um, can i do that?
[16:51] <tsimonq2> Yes you can.
[16:51] <wxl> ok i'll take your word for it XD
[16:51] <acheronuk> oh, FFS. I was looking for new webkit commits, and th 2 you linked to are quite old. I see
[16:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/webkit-fixes/
[16:53] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/+archive/ubuntu/upload-testing/+sourcepub/9478956/+listing-archive-extra
[16:53] <wxl> acheronuk: is that because this it the "other" webkit?
[16:53] <tsimonq2> wxl: So one more time, because I physically cannot be around to help you when you do this. If my PPA build passes, you grab every single one of the files in http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/webkit-fixes/ and run `dput ubuntu qtwebkit-opensource-src_5.212.0~alpha2-12ubuntu2_source.changes`
[16:54] <tsimonq2> Then make sure it shows up in the queue.
[16:54] <acheronuk> wxl: dead easy ^^^
[16:54] <tsimonq2> Do I need to clarify anything? :)
[16:54] <wxl> sounds simple enough
[16:54] <tsimonq2> I'm making sure<PHONE_NUMBER>0% you can do this.
[16:54] <wxl> if there's a problem i'll make rik do it XD
[16:54] <tsimonq2> hehe
[16:54] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[16:55] <acheronuk> sure this should be ported to QtWebEngine?
[16:55]  * acheronuk hides
[16:55] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2107
[16:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: By the way, I snuck in a new papirus-icon-theme last night. Please make sure that didn't break the world. :)
[16:58] <tsimonq2> Otherwise wxl, is there *anything* else you need me for?
[17:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2109
[18:48] <acheronuk> wxl: hmm. quiet
[18:48] <acheronuk> oh, right. tsimonq2 is under anaesthetic ;)
 Hey guys where can I put my feature request ideas on the phab.lubuntu.me site? I tried looking at differentials and the manifest sections but idk how do add requests
 *to
 Found the wish list
 Wondering how to add an item to this
 Got it it's under create tasks
 I tried adding a wishlist task but it's saying "you can not select this edit policy, because you would no longer be able to edit the object."
 Doesn't make sense because I haven't even made the wishlist task yet :/
[19:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2110
[19:49] <wxl> @tsimonq2: @acheronuk: ginggs: re: qtwebkit it looks like the build failed on amd64 and i386 and arm is taking its sweet old time, so it looks like we have more work to do.
[19:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeacc341395b8: add useage to discover.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeacc341395b8
[20:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T103: Right Click Menu To Show Desktop Resolution And Wallpaper Options] SBanya (Samuel Banya) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T103
[20:09] <wxl> test errors, too
[20:10] <wxl> QFATAL : tst_QWebView::crashTests() Received signal 11
[20:10] <wxl>          Function time: 1ms Total time: 4480ms
[20:10] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebView::crashTests() Received a fatal error.
[20:10] <wxl>    Loc: [Unknown file(0)]
[20:12] <wxl> qwebpage timedout but that's probably no big deal
[20:12] <wxl> but qwebframe failed
[20:12] <wxl> i wonder if the tests didn't need to be rewritten
 Just tested the new iso. GPG decryption and encryption in Trojitá works! Installer doesn't start, tho: ... lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo -E calamares ... QStandardPaths: wrong ownership on runtime directory /run/user/999, 999 instead of 0 ... QStandardPaths: wrong ownership on runtime directory /run/user/999, 999 instead of 0 ... 20:10:40 [2
[20:13] <lyorian> tsimonq2: wxl:  I think the cronjob that builds the normal manual is broken or the build environment might not be right eg if I build locally after freshly cloning in a new directory htop screenshot appears like it does in my local builds
[20:14] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebFrame::progressSignal() 'progressSpy.size() >= 2' returned FALSE. ()
[20:14] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebFrame::requestedUrl() Compared values are not the same
[20:14] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebFrame::setHtmlWithBaseURL() Compared values are not the same
[20:14] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebFrame::baseUrl(null) Compared values are not the same
[20:14] <wxl> FAIL!  : tst_QWebFrame::setUrlSameUrl() 'frame->url() != url1' returned FALSE. ()
[20:14] <wxl> @marneu `pastebinit -i ~/.cache/Calamares/session.log` please
[20:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T103: Right Click Menu To Show Desktop Resolution And Wallpaper Options] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T103#2122
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ycHTZfnVNK/
[20:22] <wxl> yep looks like it got deleted. i missed that.
[20:23] <wxl> @TheWendyPower you got rid of one file we need in your slideshow commit https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/branding/lubuntu/icon.png
[20:23] <wxl> it would be really nice if the slideshow was in its own separate directory rather than just being in branding/lubuntu :/
[20:23] <wxl> then mistakes like this would be less likely to happen
[20:24] <wxl> that's not your fault though
[20:29] <lyorian> ugh it is like 12 commits behind on manual.lubuntu.me to the source
[20:29] <wxl> lyorian: please make a task for that and assign tsimonq2 and i and we'll figure it out
[20:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2124
 @wxl I just hot home. I can quickly put it back. I saved all the original files.
[20:31] <wxl> @TheWendyPower you can also grab it from the repo, either via the web or thruogh git. thanks :)
[20:38] <wxl> what i don't understand is where this icon is even used
 It was used on the old slides, but I changed that in the show.qml file. I did not think that it was used anywhere else...
[20:40] <wxl> calamares is still asking for it for some reason
[20:40] <wxl> ERROR: FATAL in "/etc/calamares/branding/lubuntu/branding.desc" "\nImage file /etc/calamares/branding/lubuntu/icon.png does not exist."
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T104: cronjob for manual is important] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T104
[20:41] <wxl> um aren't we supposed to have a team meeting at 2? i guess that's not going to happen given the likely incapacitated state of our release manager
 That was the schedule.
 Yep, we are supposed to have a team meeting in about 17 min...
[20:43] <lyorian> yeah
[20:43] <wxl> i guess it will have to go on without him :/
[20:44] <lyorian> and T104 is really quite important as it ends up messing up T98 and all the screenshots needing to be taken
[20:45] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/branding/default/branding.desc#L43
[20:49] <wxl> yeah so it's the window icon and the icon in the panel, essentially
[20:51] <wxl> i'm not sure why we don't make it the default for the desktop file
[21:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2136
[21:02] <wxl> i guess we're late to start this meeting
[21:03] <wxl> so who wants to go firsT? :)
 I should be quick. I can.
[21:03] <wxl> go for it
 Been testing dailies. And trojita earlier.
 Linked a bug in qterminal with @wxls help.
 That is it from me. Helping when I can.
[21:05] <wxl> thanks @kc2bez!!!! who's next?
[21:06] <lyorian> I think I will be
[21:06] <wxl> go for it
[21:06] <lyorian> I have been writing the manual a ton but the cronjob to build it on the website is broken which can be quite discouraging to keep writing at this pace
[21:07] <lyorian> The manual could really use some editing and more screenshots but this won't show up in the final project until the cronjob is fixed
[21:07] <wxl> admittedly that pace you've been writiting at has been AMAZING
[21:07] <wxl> like i'm totally in awe
[21:08] <lyorian> I also have been installing a few dialies but mostly so I can document the install process and am glad that other people are testing as I am not doing as much of that with how much I am writing the manual
[21:09] <wxl> i'm sure we'll get that cronjob fixed quickly
[21:09] <lyorian> I also am a little worried about not neseciarly getting notification when default applications change as I will need to change the manual accordingly and then only finding out when I install it
[21:10] <wxl> i wouldn't worry about that. the only thing we've changed recently is firefox and that's the last one. the other thing i can remember is adding the partition manager, but we had nothing before that.
[21:11] <lyorian> yeah it would be nice if I was subscribed to those conversations on phab
[21:11] <wxl> i will endeavour to ensure that such things are brought to your attention
[21:11] <lyorian> luckily I still have the old firefox saved in the LXDE branch
 @lyorian we could be able to ping you after we change something like that. I'll add it to my checklist.
[21:11] <wxl> one thing i'll mention on this subject is trojita's documentation SUCKS. you might want to pay some extra special attention there.
[21:12] <lyorian> yeah I will need to get started with that as well
[21:12] <wxl> you have a little time as we still need to get a qtwebkit fix in to make displays look good enough for a screenshot
[21:13] <lyorian> I also just had recently had lximage-qt segfault on me with a few different images but the meeting started before I could submit a bug report
[21:14] <wxl> ok well get that one in and we'll work on that
[21:14] <wxl> anything else?
[21:15] <lyorian> and now the manual repository if you clone it and build it locally still looks up to date at least but having it on the website would be ideal for working with others
[21:16] <wxl> especially since we have a new contributor interesting in proofreading who doesn't have a lot of experience with git/arc, that will be a high priority
[21:16] <wxl> in fact i'll up the priority
[21:16] <lyorian> I also wrote a testcase a while back for the iso tracker dealing with manual partitioning and it has not shown up on iso.qa.ubuntu.com but got acceapted
[21:16] <wxl> and add to the 18.10 list
[21:17] <wxl> lyorian: i can merge that if needed. send me an email or something with a link and i'll get it taken care of
[21:17] <lyorian> it did get merged I don't think it got a nubmer
[21:17] <lyorian> I don't have anything else
[21:17] <wxl> oh ok well link me and i'll look into it
[21:18] <wxl> thanks lyorian !!!!!! you are a manual-making machine!
[21:18] <wxl> who's next?
 I can.
[21:18] <wxl> go go go wendy go
 I've had one large task recently and that has been the slideshow. It is not where I want it to be, but it looks good enough for now. I've also been installing dailies, looking at UI tweaks with Hans and taking some screenshots for the release announcement. That has put the Welcome application and the Lubuntu-Devel website on the
[21:19] <wxl> when we get over the hump of release i can look into that some more if someone else with more experience doesn't show up. sadly, i'm less experienced than you when it comes to qt creator :)
[21:20] <lyorian> oh wait it is number 1702
 What is 1702?
 Not having those modules seems like it has been a bit of a hindrance, defiantly slower in testing things.
[21:21] <wxl> (from previous conversation)
[21:21] <lyorian> @thewendypower the testcase number
 Sorry, I'm not up to date on that...
[21:21] <wxl> lyorian: it might be on the backend. just send me a link in email and i'll look into it
[21:22] <wxl> @TheWendyPower @tsimonq2 submitted some change to papirus-icon-theme. you knwo anything about that?
 No, I do not.
[21:22] <wxl> ok cuz he asked me to test it and i'm not sure what i'm looking for XD
[21:22] <wxl> i'll figure it out
[21:22] <wxl> anything else?
 Sorry, I'm not any help there. I think that is all from me.
[21:23] <wxl> ok great. thanks so much!!!!! the slideshow looks pretty darn awesome!!!!
[21:23] <wxl> who's next?
 I can
[21:24] <wxl> go hans go
 today I couldn't do the launchpad bug for the libreoffice things. I hope I can do it now.
[21:24] <wxl> you mean the default theming/
 but I'm not sure where yhey lok at which desktop we are using, I'm a litltle blind here
 I don't know which env variables are they using, and why we can't change them.
[21:26] <wxl> it's all very confusing to me too
 besides that, I don't think there is much I can do before release than test, and try to get more people to test. If you think I can hel in other tasks let me know.
[21:27] <wxl> i'd leave the libreoffice to @tsimonq2
 @lyorian, I have some ideas for something lilke https://lubuntu.me/tips-tricks/
[21:27] <lyorian> ok cool
 or new things or workarounds
[21:27] <wxl> testing is much appreciated @HMollerCl.
[21:27] <lyorian> I think I wanted that as appendix A of the manual
 like the "additional driver"
 How can i contact you directly @lyorian? to tell you my ideas?
[21:28] <wxl> if you want to add to the manual, by all means go for it hans. i know english isn't your first language, but i'm sure we can fix up any language that's not crystal clear
 @wxl [<wxl> if you want to add to the manual, by all means go for it hans. i know engl …], that would be good.
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2142
 I think that's all I have
[21:30] <wxl> if you do want something to do, since papirus-icon-theme was recently re-synced, going through each and every icon and making sure everything looks good would be nice
 btw, all the cosmetics things we do (besides libreoffice) are working nice.
[21:31] <wxl> beyond that, thank you, hans. you've been a lot of help!!!!
[21:31] <wxl> next?
 @wxl [<wxl> if you do want something to do, since papirus-icon-theme was recently re-s …], Good point, I saw that earlier but couldn't find a changelog for it.
[21:31] <wxl> it's just a sync to upstream
 How can I now when was the last sync, to see teh changes in upstream?
[21:33] <wxl> 1s
[21:33] <wxl> so here's the latest https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/papirus-icon-theme/20181007-1
[21:35] <wxl> here's the debian repo which might be helpful https://salsa.debian.org/pkg-deepin-team/papirus-icon-theme
[21:35] <wxl> upstream release is here https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-icon-theme/releases/tag/20181007
[21:36] <wxl> ok anyone else want to go? i don't think we expect anyone else
[21:36] <wxl> otherwise i guess that leaves me
 Go wxl go ;)
[21:37] <wxl> ok so fixed T97 so now the bootloader for UEFI is kind of generic so it should work for every weird edgecase. still want Climby, who actually has one of those weird systems to test before calling it good
[21:38] <wxl> the latest daily includes a check box "Trust this executable" in the right click context menu on e.g. the installer icon. this should allow us to make it so people can jsut execute the installer. haven't figured out how to configure that yet. it wasn't obvious when i looked so that may be a bit of a rabbit hole.
[21:39] <wxl> those paying attention earlier may have noticed that we have a reference to an icon.png that's missing. the workaround to that is detailed in T97 but an even simpler solution is just to `sudo touch /etc/calamares/branding/lubuntu/icon.png`.. it will be a blank icon, but who cares
[21:40] <wxl> got @Wafficus' fixes for the automirror module included in Calamares so that should be good. if anyone is in a different locale than the US, please test this
[21:40] <wxl> actually on that topic.. (one sec)
 I just added it back... Well I think I dit.
 *did
 I had to do a git pull and it seemed to mix that will my commit.
[21:41] <wxl> ii especially want anyone who is not calling from an IP in one of these countries to test: https://mirrorlist.lubuntu.me/list.json
[21:42] <wxl> basically, just run the installer. if there is an error and a mention of automirror in that error, i want to know about it
 I'm not on that list.
[21:42] <wxl> the libreoffice thing is ongoing as seen above and is primarily in @tsimonq2 's wheelhouse
[21:42] <wxl> then go test @HMollerCl!!! a few times if possible
 install with calamares?
[21:43] <wxl> similarly in @tsimonq2 's wheelhouse is the fix to qtwebkit to fix how trojita's emails display (a character or two per line). he did a ppa but the builds failed, at least due to some tests, so we may need to grab some updated tests. don't know. needs further looking
[21:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2145
[21:44] <wxl> (yes @HMollerCl)
[21:44] <wxl> lastly i'll mention that final freeze has officially been announced, so we're on the home stretch https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2018-October/001252.html
[21:45] <wxl> any questions, comments, concerns?
 Thanks @wxl !
 I think we are moving right a long!
 I'ver heard good comments from people testing
[21:46] <wxl> ooh lyorian there is now a second person who wants to help with proofreading on T98. maybe i should do a quick youtube video on how to git/arc?
 Testing what @HMollerCl ?
 What part?
[21:46] <lyorian> yes
 @TheWendyPower [What part?], the whole iso
[21:46] <lyorian> although I am not quite that good at megre proposals into my workload yet with arc
[21:47] <wxl> if anyoen else would rather do such a video *ahem* *ahem*
[21:47] <wxl> i can help with that part of it lyorian. you know enough to be dangerous :)
 A video?
[21:47] <wxl> yep
[21:47] <wxl> just showing you to use git/arc
[21:47] <wxl> a simple sort of beginner level thing targetted specifically at editing the manual
 Okay, that would be easy.
[21:48] <wxl> you just have to wear blue XD
 Well I don't know the manual...
[21:48] <wxl> well the manual is like any other repo, really
[21:48] <wxl> it's easier than anything else because mostly it's not code
 I don't know that I own a blue shirt... I can make my hair blue!
[21:48] <wxl> it's just reStructuredText
[21:48] <wxl> yes!
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2146
[21:49] <wxl> ok, then i think we're done here
 I can look into it @wxl...
 Good meeting!
[21:50] <wxl> thank you everyone for all the help. it's been really exciting and so awesome to have new contributors learning things. i'm really really really happy to have you all here
 Thanks for having us!
 @HMollerCl Can you share specifically what people have not liked about Lubuntu?
[21:51] <wxl> :)
[21:51] <wxl> on that note i'm gonna bbl
[21:51] <wxl> thanks again ya'll!
 Take care @wxl!
 @TheWendyPower [@HMollerCl Can you share specifically what people have not liked about Lubuntu?], sorry, apparently I state my comment wrong. They did like it.
 @HMollerCl Well I'm gld they do like it. 😁
 they say that's also very stable
[22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2147
[22:20] <wxl> huh. so i just did a normal install and it failed. i think using /bin/false for bios was bad. i should have used /bin/true. not sure why this didn't fail for me bef
[22:20] <wxl> re
 I won't be home for a few hours but I can give it a test tonight.
[22:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Online account integration] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#2149
[22:40] <lyorian>  bug 1797478
[22:43] <wxl> lyorian: can you attach or include a link to an example file?
[22:44] <wxl> aw hell i just needed to use "-/bin/false" and it would ignore the return 1. i think i'll change it to /bin/true anyways
[22:44] <lyorian> and file attached
[22:45] <wxl> oh @TheWendyPower you might want to watch to make sure the icons didn't change with papirus on your screenshots.. especially the configuration center one
[22:45] <wxl> lyorian: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392833339/firefox-screenshot.png is kind of telling
[22:46] <wxl>  file firefox-screenshot.png
[22:46] <wxl> firefox-screenshot.png: HTML document, UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines, with no line terminators
[22:46] <wxl> that said, it looks invalid :(
[22:46] <lyorian> I will try uploading another
 @wxl I will keep an eye on it!
[22:47] <lyorian> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392833631/qtstlyescreenshot.png
[22:47] <lyorian> I tried that and it still segfaults grr how did that file get all messed up
[22:47] <wxl> ok that one's definitely valid :)
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEe8d5d9738e91: DSC file for 3.0.4-3] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEe8d5d9738e91
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE72657d3e11b9: Import patches-unapplied version 3.0.4-3 to debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE72657d3e11b9
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEa4ddd79d4d95: configure: fix linking on RISC-V ISA] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEa4ddd79d4d95
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE602687247d9e: x264: drop <148 build support and fix 10bit support] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE602687247d9e
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEd91a77b39c7b: vout_opengl: update for libplacebo 0.6 API] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEd91a77b39c7b
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE658ec41df814: Import patches-applied version 3.0.4-3 to applied/debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE658ec41df814
 @lyorian [<lyorian> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392833631/qtstlyescreenshot.png], That's old!!! Now we have breeze and as default
[23:52] <lyorian> HmollerCI I know I just had that on this machine for a bug with lximage-qt
[23:53] <Wafficus> hey guys I'm around
[23:53] <Wafficus> thanks for the shoutout earlier during that meeting, wxl


[08:12] <adac> Guys where can I see the kernels that are available/released?
[08:12] <adac> Mean like is there  a release website?
[08:17] <oerheks> adac, launchpad ?
[08:17] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[08:17] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-generic all general available ..
[08:18] <oerheks> and mainline testing kernels https://kernel.ubuntu.com/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[08:34] <adac> oerheks, thanks!!
[08:34] <adac> Anfd how to explicitlz search for all kernels in version 6 for jammy?
[08:39] <oerheks> launchpad linux-image jammy
[08:39] <oerheks> see bottom, releases. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/linux
[08:46] <adac> thank you!


[13:20] <hallyn> hm, having a weird corruption issue on 4.13 kernel on artful.  Create an empty file (truncate -s 30G), qemu-nbd attach it, create pv/vg/lv and thinpool-provision;  setup a slew of filesystems;  umount, disconnect, and ...   corruption
[13:20] <hallyn> serge@lxd1:~/sandbox$ sudo qemu-nbd -f raw -c /dev/nbd0 /var/lib/lxd/disks/disk2.img
[13:20] <hallyn> Failed to set NBD socket
[13:20] <hallyn> Disconnect client, due to: End of file
[13:21] <hallyn> ohei.  nbd1 doesn't complain though.
[13:21] <hallyn> (on zesty this all worked fine, exact same recipe, worked many times on zesty, failed 3x on artful)
[13:22] <hallyn> ok so let's try a reboot - though that didn't work last night, but there could always be >1 issues
[13:23] <cpaelzer> hi hallyn: you point to 4.13 - did you already have a chance to run the same with the zesty kernel but the artful lvm/nbd tools?
[13:35] <hallyn> cpaelzer: no, i haven't.  i was kind of constrained in where i coudl run for the results i wanted, but i guess for reproducing this i can be anywhere.
[13:36] <hallyn> well this is frustrating :)
[13:37] <cpaelzer> hallyn: still corrupted?
[13:37] <cpaelzer> hallyn: do you have your "reate pv/vg/lv and thinpool-provision;  setup a slew of filesystems" in a way you could share it to cross check over here?
[13:38] <hallyn> cpaelzer: yeah, mostly - it's kindof a general tool so there's extra cruft, but it's mainly using https://github.com/atom-deps/lpack/blob/master/setup_lvm.sh  and https://github.com/atom-deps/lpack/blob/master/lpack_unpack.sh
[13:39] <hallyn> TBh kernel commit 7a362ea96d0df873397be04f4556e92f7e37c5ec looks suspect: "nbd: clear disconnected on reconnect"
[13:40] <hallyn> All right let me (1) setup a zesty vm and reproduce there, (2) do-release-upgrade -d there but not reboot, then finally reboot into artful kernel;  and see which of those three work
[13:42] <hallyn> but imma do that at the coffee shop, back in a afew
[13:53] <cpaelzer> I tried with losetup but things worked for me (slightly reduced e.g. no snapshotting)
[13:54] <cpaelzer> interested what you'll see in your test in the zesty vm
[13:58] <hallyn> note this is using nbd not losetup
[14:00] <hallyn> lol maybe https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/21/294
[15:03] <hallyn> cpaelzer: weeeeeel crap.  cannot reproduce on vm on my own host.
[15:24] <hallyn> oh, well, maybe it's a race.  now it's acting funky.