[12:00] <eyequeue> islander:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/view?searchterm=adding%20repositories
[12:00] <lonewolff> SilentKiller: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5151.html has some useful information
[12:00] <mkde> spanglesontoast, "locate alias|grep alsa"?
[12:01] <SilentKiller> lonewolff: that is awesome. i will check it out. thanks.
[12:01] <islander> thank you for the link
[12:01] <islander> I am going to try to see how much can accomplish
[12:02] <Kpjas> Hi anyone using ubuntu on a laptop ? What are HW requirements to run Ub smoothly ?
[12:02] <spanglesontoast> ah but where would I put index=0 etc?
[12:02] <P229> has anyone tried the .deb distributed by Juno in Ubuntu? does it work?
[12:02] <lonewolff> Kpjas: i run it on 2 laptops
[12:03] <lonewolff> not sure of the minimum spec but it runs alright on a p41.6m with 512mb ram
[12:03] <lonewolff> ((thats the slowest ubuntu machine i have))
[12:03] <mkde> i bet
[12:03] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> wonder if debian would install on my secondary pc ?
[12:03] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: works with patience in 128mb 800mhz
[12:03] <nate__> i run ubuntu on a p4-1.5m with 512 MB RAM
[12:03] <Kpjas> lonewolff: I have something much slower on mind
[12:03] <nate__> and its pretty fast
[12:03] <nate__> fast enough
[12:03] <holycow> Pop_pa_FrEaK, there is very little linux cannot be installed on
[12:03] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: occasional swapping is the only problem
[12:04] <lonewolff> i have debian sid on p2 133mhz with 80mb of ram (no x tho)
[12:04] <mkde> Kpjas, ubuntu is not the faster distro you will see. If you have low spec its not the best
[12:04] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: tell us the specs
[12:04] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> holycow well ubuntu won't install on my secondary pc
[12:04] <mkde> tell us!
[12:04] <Kpjas> any experience with Thinkpads, Toshibas Compaqs ?
[12:04] <Fator_Dee> mkde: installing a lighter DE helps a *lot*
[12:04] <mkde> i have a compaq
[12:04] <mkde> Fator_Dee, sure
[12:05] <Fator_Dee> and I mean lots
[12:05] <Fator_Dee> or not using one at all :-)
[12:05] <Seveas> twm!
[12:05] <Kpjas> Toshiba Tecra 8100
[12:05] <Kpjas> PIII 600 and 128 RAM
[12:05] <stuNNed> does xfce work well on low end machines?
[12:05] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: the actual specs, brand and model wont say a word
[12:05] <Kpjas> 12 GB storage
[12:05] <Fator_Dee> stuNNed: yes
[12:05] <P229> no one uses Juno/NetZero here?
[12:06] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: install xfce or fluxbox or another lighter DE and you are good to go
[12:06] <Kpjas> Fator_Dee: DE ?
[12:06] <Fator_Dee> Desktop Environment
[12:06] <Fator_Dee> or Enviroment?
[12:06] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[12:06] <Kpjas> I see
[12:06] <Fator_Dee> who cares :-p
[12:07] <Amaranth> smeg may or may not work on Ubuntu's KDE due to them breaking the the menu-spec :/
[12:07] <P229> Fator_Dee with an "n" is correct :)
[12:07] <Kpjas> but OO is out of question on PIII 600MHZ ?
[12:07] <mkde> Amaranth, you need to go and kick some ass
[12:07] <mkde> Kpjas, imo yes
[12:07] <Fator_Dee> P229: I started thinking that too afterwards
[12:07] <Amaranth> mkde: I reopened a bug report about it. :)
[12:07] <mkde> Kpjas, it will take about a minute to load up
[12:08] <mkde> Amaranth, thats not kicking ass
[12:08] <spanglesontoast> take it no one will ever help me
[12:08] <lonewolff> Kpjas: OO like to have a lot of ram#
[12:08] <Amaranth> mkde: I bitched in #ubuntu-devel
[12:08] <mkde> Amaranth, go smeg them up
[12:08] <mkde> Amaranth, yeah i saw ;)
[12:08] <Kpjas> I wonder if it is straightforward to expand ram in a laptop ?
[12:08] <mkde> Kpjas, yep
[12:08] <lonewolff> Kpjas: yeah, no bother
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> Kpjas: and when you install it, you might want to do a server install and then install the DE on "empty space"
[12:08] <Seveas> Kpjas, depends on the laptop
[12:09] <mkde> Kpjas, on mine there is a little thing you open and stick in the RAM
[12:09] <Seveas> Kpjas, and usually, laptop-mem is expensive
[12:09] <Kpjas> Seveas: Toshiba Tecra
[12:10] <Amaranth> every laptop i've seen seen they put 486s in laptops has had a little panel you open and pop in some ram
[12:10] <Kpjas> ppl they selling them with Mandrake 10.1 and Openoffice (?)
[12:10] <Amaranth> err, seen since
[12:10] <spanglesontoast> can anyone help with sound?
[12:10] <mkde> spanglesontoast, find that file?
[12:11] <Kpjas> Thnx ppl for your opinions
[12:11] <spanglesontoast> ya
[12:11] <Kpjas> and advice
[12:11] <toxicfume> Could someone please help me with Ubuntu's display problems on my l aptop?
[12:11] <spanglesontoast> I had both files
[12:11] <toxicfume> *laptop
[12:11] <spanglesontoast> what do I need to put in it?
[12:13] <Kpjas> I must say Ub supports my digital camera (Canon PShot) very nicely and prev distros had problems
[12:13] <mkde> spanglesontoast, no idea, maybe there is some information on the internet
[12:14] <spanglesontoast> ...........
[12:14] <mkde> spanglesontoast, or you could use one sound card
[12:14] <spanglesontoast> i just wanna know how to change the sound cards number
[12:14] <spanglesontoast> so it's 0 instead of 1
[12:14] <mkde> spanglesontoast, i'm sure you will find a guide on google
[12:14] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, by disabling the on board sound?
[12:15] <mkde> toxicfume, whats up?
[12:15] <spanglesontoast> no I want to use the onboard sound
[12:15] <toxicfume> mkde: well i am having display problems in my laptop, it's a ATI Radeon x700 64mb
[12:15] <toxicfume> mkde: I tried following throughthis link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto but it doesn't complete successfully
[12:16] <JStrike> Amaranth : What is smeg?
[12:16] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, by removing your PCI card or adding its driver to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:16] <Amaranth> JStrike: menu editor
[12:16] <spanglesontoast> how do I find out what the sound module is called?
[12:16] <toxicfume> mkde: when i typed sudo apt-get update..some of the files couldn't be downloaded it seems..it report GPG Error
[12:16] <Seveas> toxicfume, paste the error please
[12:16] <mkde> toxicfume, post me your sources.list in private
[12:17] <JStrike> Amaranth : Wasn't aware Gnome had adopted a menu editor yet
[12:17] <mkde> toxicfume, or better, on a paste website
[12:17] <mkde> JStrike, Amaranth has written one
[12:17] <Amaranth> JStrike: They have their own for 2.12, but it doesn't do much. Mine is unofficial.
[12:17] <toxicfume> mkde: and then when I typed sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx it reported some dependencies missing
[12:17] <toxicfume> mkde and JStrike: how do i do that? I don't have X running in ubuntu :(
[12:17] <Amaranth> JStrike: And it runs on hoary x86 installs too. :)
[12:17] <Seveas> toxicfume, do you have restricted & universe enabled?
[12:18] <mkde> cough multiverse
[12:18] <toxicfume> Seveas: i guess i do
[12:18] <toxicfume> multiverse too i think
[12:18] <mkde> toxicfume, did you copy the conf file from that page I posted you?
[12:18] <JStrike> toxicfume : Hoary?
[12:18] <toxicfume> mkde: i can't copy..i don't have X working, i manually typed the chagnes(yes i know that's prone to typo's)
[12:18] <toxicfume> JStrike: yes
[12:19] <nickrud> mkde, I wanted to thank you for this link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles, but got called way at the time :)
[12:19] <mkde> toxicfume, ok there is likely a typo. Just to be clear, it is only the FIRST or SECOND box on that page you need to copy
[12:19] <JStrike> toxicfume : Not sure. Never heard of xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:19] <mkde> toxicfume, the second is a bit more clear
[12:19] <mkde> nickrud, np its not my work ;)
[12:20] <toxicfume> mkde: i copied only the second
[12:20] <nickrud> mkde it's still on the wiki, and I'll remember it
[12:20] <hajiki> has anyone had problems editing a remote file by using 'Places>Connect to Server' ?
[12:20] <mkde> toxicfume, perfect!
[12:20] <mkde> toxicfume, check for typos
[12:20] <mkde> nickrud,*nods*
[12:20] <toxicfume> JStrike: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto is where i am getting the file from
[12:20] <toxicfume> mkde: okay, wil ldo that :)
[12:20] <Amaranth> mkde: Do you ever go to #php, #python, or #twisted?
[12:20] <mkde> toxicfume, once apt-get update is working, then go back to the BinaryDriverHowTo
[12:20] <mkde> Amaranth, no i can't code, why?
[12:21] <Amaranth> mkde: Your nick looks familiar.
[12:21] <mkde> i am mdke
[12:21] <mkde> Amaranth, i use two nicks, cos i'm on with my laptop right now
[12:23] <stevenj77> Can somone please help me - a fresh hoary install and my SB audigy (1) works..I installed totem-xine, codecs, and set multimedia to ALSA...no sound works....I get no errors BUT no sound in XMMS, TOtem-xine, it was working
[12:23] <mkde> Amaranth, this network?
[12:23] <toxicfume> mkde: i can't find any typos :S
[12:23] <Amaranth> mkde: yeah
[12:23] <mkde> toxicfume, ok can you describe the error
[12:23] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  where should i send a bug report about smeg 0.6? (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'appendChild')
[12:23] <stevenj77> I have checked alsamixer, mutes etc
[12:23] <toxicfume> mkde: the sudo apt-get update error?
[12:24] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  forum? #flood? email?
[12:24] <mkde> toxicfume, yah
[12:24] <stevenj77> does anyone know of some additional test I can run to figure out my sound problem
[12:24] <Amaranth> eyequeue: if you're using 0.6.2 email the full error to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>along with what you did when the error occured
[12:25] <hajiki> can anyone help me verify if this issue i'm having is a bug or just on my system?
[12:25] <penguin42> DOes anyone here use backuppc with tar as the transport?  Is it possible to store the tars rather than the individual files?
[12:25] <mkde> hajiki, you have to be a bit more specific
[12:25] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  dang, it's just 0.6 .. i was adding a new item to the accessories submenu, the first use of smeg, so i don't know if it's my system or the app
[12:25] <toxicfume> mkde: "W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:25] <mactiny> how would u guys rate linspire for a first time linux user
[12:26] <mkde> toxicfume, ooh interesting
[12:26] <mkde> mactiny, ubuntu is good for a first timer
[12:26] <mkde> but then again, what did you expect me to say
[12:26] <mactiny> hehe
[12:26] <Amaranth> mactiny: You're in an Ubuntu channel so you'll get biased replies but linspire is horrid.
[12:26] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  i only found 0.6 on the site the other night, is there a url for 0.6.2?
[12:26] <Amaranth> mactiny: It sets you up as root.
[12:26] <toxicfume> mkde: and another error which is similar: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:26] <Amaranth> eyequeue: It's in the forums.
[12:26] <mactiny> yes, i thought u lot would be biased
[12:26] <hajiki> when i create a mount to an sftp sever using the ssh transport on Places>Connect to Server, I can't edit the files with the Text Editor. Whey I type nothing happens... I can create new files, drag them in, just not edit them.
[12:26] <mactiny> exactly what about linspire dont u aprove of
[12:26] <mkde> toxicfume, ok there must be something wrong with your ubuntu gpg keys hang on
[12:27] <Amaranth> mactiny: It sets you up as root.
[12:27] <toxicfume> mkde: i never messed around with that :S alright...
[12:27] <mkde> hajiki, that is normal i think
[12:27] <Amaranth> mactiny: Which means one wrong command or program bug can completely wipe your HD.
[12:27] <mactiny> but surely that cant be the main complaint
[12:27] <mactiny> but i get what yoy gettign at
[12:27] <hajiki> oh
[12:28] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> anyone here use amarok for playing music ?
[12:28] <mactiny> i am a noob, but dont most distros set you up as root
[12:28] <mkde> toxicfume, ok have you got the package ubuntu-keyring
[12:28] <mactiny> im not trying to stir, just asking so that i can undertsand
[12:28] <Seveas> hajiki, you need to use a gnome-vfs aware text editor
[12:28] <mkde> mactiny, no most set you up as user
[12:28] <Seveas> mactiny, the opposite!
[12:29] <Amaranth> mactiny: Ubuntu doesn't even have a root. most set you up as a user
[12:29] <mactiny> heh ok
[12:29] <mactiny> i understand now
[12:29] <Amaranth> mactiny: Only Linspire and Windows set you up as root
[12:29] <lonewolff> Pop_pa_FrEak: yes
[12:29] <toxicfume> mkde: how do i know that?>
[12:29] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> lonewolff, how did you get an engine to work in amarok ?
[12:29] <mkde> toxicfume, good question. dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-keyring i think
[12:29] <hajiki> Seveas, can u name one please?
[12:29] <Seveas> gedit
[12:29] <lonewolff> Pop_pa_FrEak: engine?
[12:29] <mactiny> thanks for asking my questions
[12:29] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> yes like alsa or akode
[12:29] <hajiki> thats what im using
[12:30] <stevenj77> why is sound so crappy in ubuntu-it works then does'nt?
[12:30] <mkde> toxicfume, if it comes up with ii on the left, you've got it
[12:30] <mactiny> i shall be getting to bed now
[12:30] <toxicfume> mkde: looks like i do
[12:30] <lonewolff> Pop_pa_FrEak: im not using one (it says no engine) it just worked when i opened it
[12:30] <mactiny> "thanks for asking my questions" - from that i think we can see that i need to get to bed
[12:30] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> ok I'll search around
[12:30] <Amaranth> hajiki: I can't edit with gedit over sftp either.
[12:31] <Strife> you should edit with vim
[12:31] <mkde> toxicfume, ok try doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-keyring"
[12:31] <Strife> because vim > *
[12:31] <mkde> gedit is quite nice
[12:31] <Amaranth> Strife: Since when was vim gnome-vfs aware?
[12:31] <Strife> yeah gedit really isn't so bad I guess
[12:31] <penguin42> is gvim? I doubt it
[12:31] <Strife> Amaranth: why the hell do you need that?
[12:31] <toxicfume> mkde: done
[12:31] <mkde> toxicfume, then try update again
[12:31] <hajiki> i love vim and all but like someone said it isnt vfs aware :(
[12:31] <Amaranth> Strife: You'd be surprised.
[12:32] <mkde> toxicfume, btw did you get some "added" messages?
[12:32] <Strife> actually, I think gvim is vfs aware
[12:32] <Amaranth> i doubt it
[12:32] <Strife> well
[12:32] <toxicfume> mkde: nope, didn't get any added messages
[12:32] <Strife> why do you need it to be vfs aware?
[12:32] <penguin42> hajiki: sftp is an evil hack - its not surprising editing is dodgy with it
[12:32] <mkde> toxicfume, what messages did you get?
[12:32] <Amaranth> on ubuntu vim-gtk and vim-gnome are the same thing, not a good sign
[12:32] <penguin42> Strife: Someone trying to edit things over sftp
[12:32] <hajiki> anyone else think thats a bug? or should i not bother with a bug report...
[12:32] <toxicfume> mkde: okay ran the update, and the error is still there but reduced by 1(there were 2 earlier)
[12:32] <Amaranth> Strife: So I can edit files that you access with gnome-vfs?
[12:32] <mkde> toxicfume, which is left?
[12:33] <Amaranth> Strife: Like files somewhere else on a network.
[12:33] <Strife> Amaranth: bah, who needs that?
[12:33] <toxicfume> mkde: i just remember seeing something like processed: 2 unchaged: 2
[12:33] <Strife> :)
[12:33] <mkde> toxicfume, k
[12:33] <dimeo> is there a way to find out what synaptic just installed?
[12:33] <toxicfume> mkde: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid BADSIG (alphanumeric characters here) Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:33] <mkde> shit
[12:33] <mkde> anyone else have any ideas on that GPG error?
[12:34] <Amaranth> bad mirror
[12:34] <mkde> we just did a dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-keyring
[12:34] <mkde> Amaranth, but but...
[12:34] <mkde> its the main mirror no?
[12:34] <Amaranth> does security have mirrors? :)
[12:34] <Amaranth> i know archives.ubuntu.com is on a round-robin DNS or some similar feature
[12:35] <mkde> Amaranth, i thought there were only 2 mirrors...
[12:35] <Amaranth> so it looks like the same server but is actually any one of them
[12:35] <mkde> toxicfume, try editing your sources.list and putting us. in front of all the addresses, like this:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <toxicfume> so can i somehow change the mirror url?
[12:35] <penguin42> security.ubuntu is one of two machines
[12:35] <toxicfume> mkde: okay
[12:36] <oferw> when is the date for the next release?
[12:36] <mkde> oferw, october
[12:36] <penguin42> mkde: the error is from security.ubuntu.com not archive
[12:36] <mkde> good point
[12:36] <mkde> toxicfume, yeah scrap that idea
[12:36] <mkde> its working here
[12:36] <toxicfume> mkde: even us.security?
[12:37] <toxicfume> okay i'll scrap that
[12:37] <mkde> is there a mirror for security?
[12:37] <penguin42> mkde: there is no us.security
[12:37] <mkde> toxicfume, ^^
[12:37] <mkde> penguin42, could you direct your remarks to toxicfume too pls
[12:37] <penguin42> nod
[12:37] <Lithi> Is there a way to use apt-get to install a package to ramdisk while working off the livecd?
[12:37] <toxicfume> mkde: yeah i saw that
[12:38] <mkde> toxicfume, no idea what is wrong, its working fine here
[12:38] <toxicfume> mkde: damn sucks for me :/
[12:39] <Shuddertrix> Lithi: As far as i know, no, but you can use klik on the livecd (I think)
[12:39] <Lithi> Shuddertrix: Whats klik?
[12:39] <giggsey> [23:38:46]  * mez huggles giggsey -> oO
[12:39] <penguin42> toxicfume: please try changing security.ubuntu.com to   <IP_ADDRESS>  and if that doesn't work try <IP_ADDRESS> - those are the two addresses of security.ubuntu.com (I got that by doing dig security.ubuntu.com)
[12:39] <Mez> :D
[12:40] <Shuddertrix> Klik is meant for knoppix and the likes, it might work for the ubuntu livecd
[12:40] <oferw> any events planned before the release?
[12:40] <giggsey> lol Mez :P
[12:40] <stevenj77> why would sound appear to play in xmms, totem-xine (NO errors) yet no sound from speakers???
[12:40] <Shuddertrix> Lithi: kilk.atekon.de
[12:40] <toxicfume> penguin42: okay, i'll try that now
[12:41] <eyequeue> Amaranth:  mail enroute
[12:41] <nickrud> hmm, isn't hoary updates on archive ubuntu.com, not security?
[12:41] <stevenj77> The volumn monitor (Applications --> sound and video --> volumn monitor)
[12:41] <penguin42> nickrud: Certianly I have archive and security in my apt sources
[12:41] <toxicfume> penguin42: looks like i'm getting some more packages with the first ip
[12:42] <Lithi> Shuddertrix: dns error.. Anyways with this kilk can I install Etheral?
[12:42] <nickrud>  "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-updates penguin42
[12:43] <Shuddertrix> Lithi: klik.atekon.de
[12:43] <Shuddertrix> Just noticed my typo.
[12:43] <toxicfume> ugh, now i'm beginning to get "503 service unavailable" from the 1st ip
[12:43] <Shuddertrix> Ethereal is on the klik page, yes.
[12:44] <giggsey> Mez -> how long is the kline?
[12:44] <Mez> 10m
[12:44] <giggsey> kk
[12:45] <carlos> hi
[12:45] <nickrud> penguin42 deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[12:45] <penguin42> nickrud: Nod, I have that - but I also have:   deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[12:46] <mkde> nickrud, hoary-updates are separate to hoary-security
[12:46] <eyequeue> penguin42:  both are appropriate
[12:46] <mkde> *grins*
[12:47] <mkde> things are getting surreal
[12:47] <eyequeue> penguin42:  "updates" aren't necessarily related to security issues at all
[12:47] <mkde> eyequeue, we're talking about something else, penguin42 knows that
[12:47] <carlos> can someone tell me how to install a file in ubuntu linux_
[12:47] <nickrud> I defer, I just was suprised that a repository that was security would also have updates
[12:47] <toxicfume> penguin42: i'm trying the 2nd ip now, hopefully i don'tget 503 errors with this
[12:47] <lonewolff> carlos: what king of file?
[12:47] <stevenj77> well after I updated...My sound broke..this is bullshit
[12:48] <toxicfume> er..guess i spoke too soon
[12:48] <hugo> need some help
[12:48] <penguin42> hugo: What's up?
[12:48] <mkde> carlos, you can use the Add/Remove Programs utility in the Applications->System Tools menu, or the more advanced Synaptic package manager in the System->admin menu
[12:48] <hugo> iwconfig keeps saving a key    i dont need      i need different key
[12:48] <hugo> how cani purge the key form iwconfig   in the script
[12:48] <carlos> thanx i will try that
[12:48] <hugo> i think it is using this as default
[12:49] <hugo> penguin42,  any ideas ?
[12:49] <penguin42> toxicfume: OK - if everyone else is fine then it is more likely that something is special about your setup that is broken; so lets put that apt.sources back to the way it was - and then figure out whats up with oyur system
[12:49] <penguin42> hugo: Nope - I'm not a wireless person
[12:49] <hugo> penguin42,  iwconfig i thin is overridung the networ setting for gnome
[12:49] <hugo> penguin42,  where can i edit network devices ??
[12:49] <mkde> hugo, you can set the key in the gnome network utility, iwconfig shouldn't override it
[12:50] <toxicfume> penguin42: so i chnge the ip back to security.ubuntu.com?
[12:50] <penguin42> toxicfume: Nod
[12:50] <hugo> anyone wireless/ubuntu guru here ??
[12:50] <oscarh> hugo, guru or just wireless user?
[12:50] <toxicfume> penguin42: done
[12:50] <oscarh> hugo, i'm on wireless now
[12:50] <penguin42> hugo: System menu->administration->networki settings   - but you need to ask others about wireless
[12:50] <hugo> oscarh,    either  i need to fix this
[12:50] <pirroH> is there some quick how-to for ubuntu+cups web interface enabling??
[12:50] <TriniTriggs> no guru, but my laptop works with wireless.... but if not pinged for 20 minutes, connection dies and works only with system reboot
[12:51] <lonewolff> hug0: whats up with your wireless?
[12:51] <hugo> penguin42,    iwconfig is saving an old essid and old key
[12:51] <penguin42> toxicfume: So how are you connected to the net?
[12:51] <hugo> lonewolff,  i need to change key and have it save
[12:51] <lonewolff> hugo: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:51] <pirroH> I've already tried using lppasswd
[12:51] <lonewolff> i had the same problem a while back
[12:51] <hugo> lonewolff,   kewl  ill look now
[12:52] <toxicfume> penguin42: okay here's my config: this computer i'm on ight now (windows) is connected direcly to the internet via the USB ADSL modem. and the ubuntu laptop is connectedto this computer with a crossover cable
[12:52] <lonewolff> toxicfume: set up ICS on the windows machine?
[12:52] <toxicfume> *right
[12:52] <toxicfume> lonewolff: already
[12:52] <oscarh> hugo, iwconfig key off
[12:53] <penguin42> toxicfume: So on the ubuntu box does just going to some random web site work?
[12:53] <jake> Anyone here know a some kind of program to store all sort of login-info?
[12:53] <hugo> oscarh,   doesnt work
[12:53] <hugo> lonewolff, that was it  ty  very much
[12:53] <lonewolff> toxicfume: give the linux machine an ip and tell it to use the windows machine as gateway and all should work
[12:53] <hugo> lonewolff,  the old code was there   i overwrote it there
[12:53] <toxicfume> penguin42: well, X doen't work for me (which i need apt-get update for it to work) so i don'tknow how to try that
[12:53] <hugo> im off to test  ty guys
[12:53] <lonewolff> i had a similar setup a but ago
[12:54] <oscarh> hugo, i see u managed to make it without me :D
[12:54] <lonewolff> s/but/bit
[12:54] <toxicfume> lonewolff: no the internet works fine, that's not the problem  i think
[12:54] <lifeless> yay unison
[12:54] <lonewolff> toxicfume: whats the problem?
[12:54] <penguin42> toxicfume: OK, from the command line try typing   lynx http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:54] <jeff25> heh
[12:54] <toxicfume> penguin42: lynx: command not found...do i have to be in /?
[12:54] <penguin42> lonewolff: He has weirdo gpg errors on trying to do upgrades - but I'm wondering if his network is broke
[12:55] <jake> Anyone here know a some kind of program to store all sort of login-info?
[12:55] <penguin42> toxicfume: Can you install lynx from the install cds ?
[12:55] <toxicfume> penguin42: i have only 1 install cd :/
[12:55] <penguin42> toxicfume: OK, just try apt-get install lynx
[12:56] <toxicfume> penguin42: okay, it's d/ling
[12:56] <penguin42> toxicfume: Is it sucking that over the net?
[12:56] <toxicfume> penguin42: yes
[12:57] <penguin42> hmm - if it manages that then you'd think it would manage the other stuff
[12:57] <hmsmariano> i think i need a plugin for mp3
[12:57] <hmsmariano> may somebody help with this?
[12:57] <hmsmariano> (under ubuntu)
[12:57] <toxicfume> penguin42: yeah, it seems quite wierd
[12:57] <lonewolff> hmsmariano: info in the faq about restricted formats
[12:58] <toxicfume> penguin42: and well, if you still wanted to know lynx can surf ubuntu fine
[12:58] <lonewolff> hmm that is very strange
[12:58] <penguin42> toxicfume: OK - so that means your network isn't horribly broken!
[12:58] <ShadowRage> how do I get tv-out with a nvidia chipset?
[12:59] <toxicfume> penguin42: ah, now wth's causing the gpg error :/
[12:59] <dimeo> can't ubuntu read a msdos floppy disk?  I click on floppy under "places" and it says it can't read the filesystem
[12:59] <lonewolff> di
[01:00] <bzbb> I setup fglrx, and OpenGL stills runs really bad, and fgl_glxgears doesn't work
[01:00] <penguin42> toxicfume: Damned if I know - you need to find someone who really knows how the key stuff works
[01:00] <lonewolff> dimeo: try sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/point from command line
[01:00] <penguin42> bzbb: if you do glxinfo does it tell you that rendering is direct?
[01:00] <toxicfume> penguin42: ah..guess i have to wait..this error's irritating hehe
[01:00] <bzbb> penguin42, no
[01:01] <penguin42> bzbb: That's normally a bad sign for 3D stuff
[01:01] <toxicfume> until this complete's, ubuntu wouldn't be ableto display X on my screen :(
[01:01] <bzbb> penguin42, yeah
[01:01] <bzbb> I figured that was the problem
[01:01] <toxicfume> *completes
[01:01] <Enkidu> what does a red file in ls mean?
[01:02] <penguin42> toxicfume: ok, two things I can think of - since I know nothing about how the key stuff works - 1) run a RAM test on your machine - I've seen authentication things fail due to randomly corrupted downloands (unlikely)   2) Is your ISP/windows box adding some crap to your http downloads (e.g. a header or something from a proxy) - I don't know if that would mangle it - but again I think thats unlikely
[01:02] <penguin42> Enkidu: It is normally a symbolic link whose destination file is missing
[01:03] <Enkidu> penguin42, the file is a zip file tho
[01:03] <penguin42> oh
[01:03] <synd> hey guys, how do i put shortcuts (icons) onto the Xfce desktop?
[01:03] <penguin42> Enkidu: Show us the full line of output for an ls -l of that zip file
[01:04] <penguin42> Enkidu: I take it back - red is just compressed files; (red on invert background is broken link)
[01:04] <Enkidu> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 37432551 2005-05-20 12:06 linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[01:04] <penguin42> Enkidu: Its just highlighting compressed files for you - nothing to worry about
[01:04] <Enkidu> ok
[01:07] <dimeo> is everyone here able to mount their floppy drive properly? This seems pretty stupid...
[01:07] <giggsey> swish!
[01:08] <jake> Anyone know what Gnome uses instead of Kwallet?
[01:08] <Mez> your memory ;)
[01:08] <jake> Hehe
[01:09] <carlos> hi, can someone tell me how to install a downloaded file (like firefox 1.04_)
[01:09] <refuze2looze> is there a program i can browse winamp's internet TV in linux?
[01:09] <fishie> carlos:did you extract it?
[01:09] <carlos> yes i did
[01:10] <fishie> go to terminal. then ./install-sh
[01:10] <ShadowRage> anyone here have composite enabled?
[01:10] <carlos> ok fishie
[01:10] <dimeo> how do I mount the floppy?  system-->computer-->floppy doesn't work
[01:10] <Anubis>  tar -cvvfZz pix.tar.gz stuff/
[01:10] <Anubis> tar: pix.tar.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[01:11] <twisted_steel> refuze2looze: maybe http://lintelkku.sourceforge.net/
[01:11] <Anubis> whats that mean?
[01:11] <Anubis> and how can I tell tar where to put the new tar.gz?
[01:12] <john6001> hello
[01:12] <Eddie> hello
[01:12] <nbk> whats up people
[01:12] <john6001> how do i install a .deb?
[01:12] <jeff25> aterm -name "Gentoo Terminal" -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-c-*-iso9859-2 -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr +ls -si -sk -bg black -shad
[01:12] <jeff25> oops
[01:12] <plovs> john6001: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:12] <john6001> ok
[01:12] <john6001> thanks
[01:13] <penguin42> Anubis: Well normally I use tar -cvzf blah.tar.gz stuff   - so what you did looks right although I've never seen z and Z used together
[01:13] <spiderworm> hey all, im trying to figure out where the nfs server share configuration file is.... according to nfs website, it's supposed to be /etc/export, but it's not there and I can't find it anywhere
[01:13] <spiderworm> anybody know where it would be?
[01:13] <penguin42> spiderworm: If you haven't got any yet it won't exist
[01:13] <spiderworm> o i c i create it
[01:13] <spiderworm> penguin42: well that explains it.  thanx
[01:13] <penguin42> nod
[01:13] <lonewolff> spiderworm: /etc/exports actually and it wont exists untill you make it
[01:14] <john6001> any ops here?
[01:14] <Mez> er
[01:14] <Mez> question
[01:14] <john6001> irc ops?
[01:14] <penguin42> spiderworm: No prob - man exports   tells you the format
[01:14] <Mez> the default PHP build doesnt include
[01:14] <refuze2looze> twisted_steel: thanks i'll check it out
[01:14] <Mez> the string functions
[01:14] <Mez> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: stripos() in /var/www/test.php on line 74
[01:14] <spiderworm> No manual entry for exports
[01:14] <lonewolff> spiderworm: got nfs installed?
[01:15] <spiderworm> but i got a website that shows the formats, thanx for the speedy & helpful tips
[01:15] <penguin42> spiderworm: Try installing the nfs-kernel-server package
[01:15] <spiderworm> lonewolff: yes
[01:15] <spiderworm> tyvm
[01:15] <dimeo> off to find out how to fix this stinkin unmountable floppy  l8rz
[01:15] <Eddie> Having problems with installation of Ubuntu 5.04.  After installed it boots up but stops and displays the following: GRUB Load Stage 1.5., Error 2.  Can anyone help me on this
[01:16] <penguin42> ooooh
[01:16] <penguin42> Eddie: Is there anything odd about your machine - os it a nice simple one?
[01:16] <Eddie> its a simple machine
[01:16] <penguin42> hmm; any usb storage devices plugged in?
[01:17] <Eddie> no
[01:17] <penguin42> hmm - what size is your hard drive? Do you know if it is ATA, SATA or SCSI ?
[01:17] <Eddie> 20 G, ATA
[01:17] <nbk> hey, just instaled ubuntu from debian, and gotta say i was freaking amazed when it recognized my wireless card off the bat (1st time thats ever happened to me!). However the OS drivers for my card just plain suck donkey balls, so what do i gotta do to uninstall them so I can ndiswrapper the windows(sry) drivers (works great)
[01:18] <penguin42> Eddie: Dual booting or just ubuntu ?
[01:18] <Eddie> just ubuntu
[01:18] <penguin42> Eddie: Damn - well theres no obvious reason it should break then :-(
[01:19] <stuNNed> nbk: add the OS drivers to /etc/hotplug/blacklist, install ndiswrapper-utils ?
[01:19] <penguin42> Eddie: How did you partition it? How old is the machine it is in?
[01:19] <nbk> acx111 chipset i think
[01:19] <nbk> will that totally stop pthem from loading? thx
[01:20] <ritalin> hello
[01:20] <ritalin> any familiar with scp here?
[01:20] <ritalin> anyone*
[01:20] <penguin42> yes
[01:20] <Eddie> Follow the instructions on the ubuntu cd and partitioned it automatically.
[01:20] <stuNNed> nbk: it should
[01:20] <lonewolff> ritalin: yes
[01:20] <Rev_Fry> Anywho... if folks are getting hangs with AMD64s in either i386 or AMD64 install... try disabling powernowd... it appears to have worked for me
[01:20] <othernoob> anyone know a powerful math program ? (linear algebra, analysis, numerics )
[01:20] <penguin42> Eddie: How old is the machine?
[01:21] <ritalin> othernoob: irb
[01:21] <Eddie> The motherboard is a shuttle MK40 V1.3A
[01:21] <othernoob> ritalin: where can i get it ? is it in universe/multiverse ?
[01:21] <penguin42> Eddie: It should just work
[01:22] <nova> how well does enlightenment run on uuntu?
[01:22] <jake> Anyone know what the ubuntu symbol in synaptic means?...
[01:22] <Eddie> About a 1 year old
[01:22] <ritalin> othernoob: heh its ruby's interactive shell
[01:22] <nova> ubuntu that is
[01:22] <ritalin> python would work too
[01:22] <nbk> cool, im not exactly sure what the OS driver is called though?
[01:22] <psyc> hey, anyone here has ubuntu with amd64 ?
[01:22] <penguin42> othernoob: There is a thing called 'octave' - I don't know if its the type of thing your after
[01:23] <othernoob> ritalin: heh, isnt ruby a programming language while im looking for a math prog ;)
[01:23] <penguin42> othernoob: 'octave - The GNU Octave language for numerical computations'
[01:23] <ritalin> programming languages are good at math
[01:23] <ritalin> othernoob: bc wont cut it?
[01:23] <Eddie> I have read that maybe it cannot find certain files at startup.
[01:24] <othernoob> ritalin: heh yea i could do my own prog in java or haskell, but that's not quite what i want to spend my time with. bc ?
[01:24] <ritalin> type bc in prompt
[01:24] <othernoob> penguin42: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:24] <ritalin> it should be stanard
[01:24] <nova> ok let me phrase a diffrent way if i installenlightenment will i break ubuntu? hehe
[01:24] <ritalin> err standard
[01:24] <penguin42> Eddie: Nod - it sounds like its not able to find either the kernel or more likely some important part of grub; is your drive attached as the primary drive on the first controller?
[01:24] <ritalin> man bc for more info
[01:24] <Eddie> yes
[01:25] <ritalin> i always use irb for math but then again i dont do much math
[01:25] <nbk> stuNNed: from lsmod  "acx_pci               134816  0" would that be it?
[01:25] <lonewolff> night all
[01:25] <stuNNed> nbk: probly so, and everything associated with it
[01:25] <stuNNed> night lonewolff
[01:26] <penguin42> Eddie: Damned if I know then; I suggest   1) See if there are any existing bug reports in the ubuntu bugzilla  2) Boot off a rescue/install cd and see what is actually on the drive - you should find a /boot/grub with a handful of files
[01:26] <Madpilot> does anyone know if it's possible to add more genres to SoundJuicer's listings? it's pretty limited...
[01:26] <othernoob> ritalin: just checked out bc, and no, i'd need a quite a bit more advanced prog. not just simple 1+1=2 (or 0 in F_2 ;) )
[01:27] <ritalin> heh
[01:27] <ritalin> othernoob: http://www.5z.com/jirka/genius.html
[01:27] <ritalin> i hear its pretty powerful
[01:27] <ritalin> like a opensource mathematica
[01:27] <nbk> stuNNed: associated with it? any way to tell whats associated with it?
[01:27] <Eddie> Do I use the same installation CD or Do  I have to make a rescue CD
[01:28] <othernoob> ritalin: now we're talking :) looks promising :)
[01:28] <stuNNed> nbk: any others that have acx next to them or wlan or the like
[01:28] <penguin42> Eddie: If you are good with a command line then the install cd can get a prompt on alt-f2 I think; else I think youre probably going to have to find other suggestions
[01:28] <stuNNed> nbk: hopefully if you add them to the blacklist when you reboot they will not load and you can use ndiswrapper
[01:28] <alfonso> alguien en espaol?
[01:29] <nbk> stuNNed: cool, thanks, guess ill go try it out, later
[01:29] <stuNNed> nbk: cya, good luck
[01:29] <ritalin> ok scp question time
[01:29] <thechitowncubs> Does anyone know the IRC channel for NVU?
[01:29] <thechitowncubs> channel and server...
[01:30] <ritalin> Im connected to my webserver via ssh, id like to download my index.html so i can work on it at home
[01:30] <Eddie> Well I am new to the world of Linux.  I am an older of Windows operating system
[01:30] <stuNNed> ritalin: scp file user@remotebox:/somedir
[01:30] <Eddie> should I say oldie of windows
[01:30] <penguin42> Eddie: You've hit a problem that shouldn't happen - you're going to need to have someone sit down at your machine and help - is their a LUG near you?
[01:30] <ritalin> i hav4e been using sftp but it seems like alot of trouble to have to end the connection
[01:30] <ritalin> stuNNed: k ill try it
[01:30] <alejandro_> hello .... a quick quistion
[01:31] <alejandro_> how to change folder's permissions by root terminal ??
[01:31] <Eddie> what do you mean by "LUG"
[01:31] <stuNNed> alejandro_: with chmod command
[01:31] <tenebrous> Linux User Group
[01:31] <penguin42> Eddie: A Linux User Group - there are lots - find one and they should be able to help
[01:31] <alejandro_> an example plz ....
[01:31] <penguin42> Eddie: There is probably one near you
[01:31] <bexandy> hola a todos
[01:32] <bexandy> hi people
[01:32] <airox> hi bexandy
[01:32] <bexandy> somebody spaak in spanish here ?
[01:32] <bexandy> speak spanish?
[01:32] <bexandy> somebody?
[01:32] <stuNNed> bexandy: there is #ubuntu-es or something
[01:32] <airox> #ubuntu-es
[01:32] <airox> :)
[01:32] <penguin42> ritalin: If you open the file browser then you can open a network connection via ssh and use the filebroweser to copy things if you find that more convenient
[01:32] <bexandy> thx
[01:33] <Eddie> How do I find a LUG?
[01:33] <ritalin> penguin42: nah cause its more then just a webserver so im always ssh'd into it
[01:33] <stuNNed> Eddie: there is listing at linux.org afaik
[01:33] <ritalin> my school gives me a sunOS account to play with
[01:33] <penguin42> Eddie: I'd google for LUG and your nearest city - where are you?
[01:33] <Eddie> New York City
[01:34] <stuNNed> ah, plenty LUG's there i'm sure :)
[01:34] <penguin42> Eddie: http://www.nylug.org/home/index.shtml
[01:35] <bexandy> excuse, how can i connect to ubuntu-es ?
[01:35] <Eddie> ok, thank you
[01:35] <alejandro_> how do i change permissions by chmod ?? (example: /home/myfolder)
[01:35] <Merlin615> hey all, need some help setting up a printer
[01:35] <ritalin> bexandy: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:35] <bexandy> where?
[01:35] <ritalin> from the prompt you type with
[01:36] <mz2> how'd i run the similar X autoconfiguration that Ubuntu does during the installation?
[01:36] <ritalin>   /join #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <bexandy> ok thx
[01:36] <ritalin> np
[01:36] <bexandy> thanks ritalin
[01:36] <bexandy> :)
[01:36] <penguin42> Eddie: Sorry I couldn't fix the problem
[01:37] <Eddie> no problem, I appreciate your interest in helping others.
[01:38] <Merlin615> any had experience setting up a lexmark z35 or similar usb printer?
[01:41] <Madpilot> Merlin615: I've got a Lexmark Z32 w/ USB
[01:42] <Merlin615> ok, got a z35, found the suse driver on the net
[01:42] <Merlin615> get an error when running it though
[01:43] <Madpilot> Merlin615: I didn't have to install any drivers for my Z32, it auto-detected when Ubuntu started...
[01:43] <Merlin615> 32, 35 isn't though
[01:43] <othernoob> isnt suse rpm based ?
[01:44] <othernoob> did you alienate the rpm ?
[01:44] <Merlin615> no
[01:44] <Merlin615> .gz.sh
[01:44] <Merlin615> type
[01:44] <othernoob> Merlin615: here's a guide for the z615 http://www.staerk.de/thorsten/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=43
[01:45] <othernoob> maybe you can use it accordingly
[01:46] <MauroNet> Hi, Do you install any Postgre on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <Madpilot> Merlin615: Linuxprinting.org has no listing for the Z35...
[01:46] <Merlin615> ok, thanks
[01:47] <othernoob> Madpilot: linuxprinting.org has no listing for brother hl-2030 , hl-2040 and both work flawlessly..
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way to use "soft links" in nvu?
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> For Example, i have my webpage in this directory on my computer ( /home/thechitowncubs/website/thechitowncubs/ )   and all my files are in there the same way they are on the website... but when i use the same files from the website locally, they css doesn't get loaded or any of the images because it is looking for it in my root directory of my computer, not my /home/thechitowncubs/website/thechitowncubs directory... get it n
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> ow?
[01:47] <Madpilot> othernoob: true, and I've noticed a lot of the newer printers aren't listed at all, either.
[01:48] <Madpilot> which is too bad, because I'm looking to ditch my Lexmark...
[01:48] <Madpilot> anyone want a Z32 that works when it feels like it? :)
[01:48] <othernoob> Madpilot: yea :/ and it also doesnt mention anything about official drivers, if there are some
[01:48] <thechitowncubs> lol
[01:48] <othernoob> heh Z32.. i had the z31..no thanks lol never lexmark again..
[01:49] <Madpilot> othernoob: yup, I'm going Canon or Epson this time. Lexmark has the most INSANE ink prices!
[01:49] <othernoob> Madpilot: are you getting a laserprinter?
[01:50] <Madpilot> othernoob: no, another inkjet.
[01:50] <othernoob> it's always been cheaper to buy a new lexmark than buying their ink cartridges ;)
[01:51] <Madpilot> othernoob: no kidding...
[01:51] <raDeon> what up
[01:55] <Madpilot> othernoob: neither of the inkjet models I'm interested in are listed at linuxprinters.org... :(
[01:57] <beginner> hello
[01:57] <hybrid> everyone leavin
[01:57] <hybrid> beginner: hello
[01:57] <beginner> is any metod to install aol?
[01:57] <JStrike> beginner : AOL instant messenger?
[01:57] <hybrid> beginner: aol...
[01:58] <fortran01> beginner: you can use gaim
[01:58] <beginner> aol soft
[01:58] <hybrid> beginner: isp im browser
[01:58] <othernoob> Madpilot: did you check out the forums at linuxprinting.org ? maybe they are mentioned there, the hl 2030 and 2040 were mentioned there as well
[01:58] <othernoob> which is why i got the 2030 :)
[01:58] <hybrid> beginner: what is soft
[01:58] <JStrike> beginner : Not sure what aol soft is
[01:58] <beginner> like in xp
[01:58] <beginner> when i install all of it
[01:58] <hybrid> beginner: explain plz
[01:58] <beginner> all aol
[01:58] <fortran01> beginner: you can use http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
[01:58] <JStrike> beginner : It is called AOL Soft?
[01:59] <JStrike> fortran01 : He said it wasn't instant messenger
[01:59] <beginner> i dont know how it is named:)
[01:59] <Madpilot> othernoob: didn't even know there were forums there. ;| will have to check them out
[01:59] <hybrid> beginner: what does it do
[01:59] <beginner> did u on xp ever have aol?
[02:00] <othernoob> Madpilot: :)
[02:00] <hybrid> nope
[02:00] <beginner> i had it
[02:00] <hybrid> b/sides aim
[02:00] <JStrike> beginner : I think he might be talking bout the whole AOL shebang
[02:00] <othernoob> Madpilot: are you an experienced linux-user ?
[02:00] <JStrike> beginner : Only the AOL Instant Messenger is available
[02:00] <othernoob> oO shebang :O reminds me of the good ole pornsites i used to go to :/
[02:00] <Madpilot> othernoob: hardly! been on Ubuntu less than two weeks, WinXP & 98 before that!
[02:01] <othernoob> Madpilot: ah i see.
[02:01] <beginner> on xp i take aol8+ and with install i install it
[02:01] <beginner> ok
[02:01] <JStrike> beginner : No. That isn't available
[02:01] <beginner> ok
[02:01] <beginner> thankyou
[02:02] <JStrike> beginner : What part of it do you need? You can do similar things with different programs. i.e the app you are using now as apposed to AOL ChatRooms
[02:03] <beginner> i loved aol
[02:03] <beginner> :)
[02:03] <refuze2looze> i'm trying to open a video stream in VLC that is full so i want it to keep re-trying over and over again.. i tried putting it in a play list and enabling repeat playlists and that didn't work.. anybody have any idea how i can have vlc keep retrying to play it?
[02:03] <othernoob> you're a weird person beginner ;)
[02:03] <beginner> maybe
[02:03] <beginner> ;)
[02:04] <refuze2looze> nvm i got it =)
[02:04] <JStrike> othernoob : A large part of the internet populace loves AOL
[02:04] <hybrid> JStrike: that percent is dropping though
[02:04] <othernoob> JStrike: i don't deny their weirdness ;)
[02:04] <Madpilot> JStrike: but the rest of us can't figure out why they love it... :)
[02:05] <hybrid> JStrike: come on who is goin to pay for an extra service ontop of your existing broadband
[02:05] <JStrike> Madpilot : I can easily understand it
[02:05] <hybrid> JStrike: genuis for them stupid for the consumer
[02:05] <othernoob> hybrid: depends on the "service" ;)
[02:07] <hybrid> othernoob: AOL service rofl
[02:09] <raDeon> LOL AOL
[02:10] <refuze2looze> AOL
[02:10] <JStrike> I really dislike people with superior attitudes
[02:10] <refuze2looze> i saw everyone else writing it
[02:11] <JStrike> refuze2looze : :-)
[02:11] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone have a suggestion for a "good" GUI for wlan-management? eg. changing/searching hotspots etc.
[02:11] <Fanskapet> im not really satisfied with the GNOME network-management app.
[02:12] <Fanskapet> and that GNOME-applet sucks big time.. runs slow as hell.. may well be some missconfiguration from my side that makes it slow though.
[02:12] <Jeezis> Fanskapet: kwifimanager is the only other one i know of
[02:12] <refuze2looze> wtf.. wxVLC keeps exiting due to Segmentation Fault
[02:12] <Fanskapet> Jeezis, oh that's the one with that terrible GUI :)
[02:12] <Jeezis> yup :-p
[02:12] <Fanskapet> yuck :)
[02:13] <Fanskapet> it's a coder who done that one :) not a designer :) that's for sure :)
[02:13] <Jeezis> true that
[02:13] <Jeezis> but my wireless never worked
[02:13] <Prophet> hey everyone, i keep getting this error when i try to compile stuff "No acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  See 'config.log' for more details" any ideas how to fix this?
[02:13] <glick> prophet apt-get install gcc
[02:13] <Burgundavia> Prophet, you need to install build-essential
[02:13] <Prophet> i have it thoug
[02:14] <Prophet> h
[02:14] <JStrike> Prophet : You probably dont have an acceptable C compiler installed
[02:14] <Prophet> 3.4.4
[02:14] <Burgundavia> Prophet, that will get gcc
[02:14] <Fanskapet> hmm okey.. well i have it running in my current install it's just that the network-administration app sucks for management of a wlan card.
[02:14] <Prophet> im running ubuntu
[02:14] <Burgundavia> Prophet, and other things you need
[02:14] <Prophet> i have gcc
[02:14] <Fanskapet> or well it works but not as i want it too.
[02:15] <Prophet> is there a way i can get gcc into $PATH or something?
[02:15] <Fanskapet> Jeezis did you use the ndiswrapper?
[02:15] <glick> Prophet, type 'which gccc'
[02:15] <glick> Prophet, type 'which gcc'
[02:15] <Prophet> which gcc
[02:15] <Prophet> ?
[02:15] <Jeezis> Fanskapet: nope the atmel driver
[02:15] <glick> Prophet, type that into the command prompt
[02:15] <Prophet> ok
[02:15] <Fanskapet> Jeezis ahh okey.. well ndiswrapper worked for me
[02:16] <Fanskapet> running a 64bit driver from windows..
[02:16] <Jeezis> i have a belkin f5d6020ver 2
[02:16] <Prophet> nothing comes up
[02:16] <glick> prophet that means its not installed
[02:16] <Prophet> then distrowatch lies lol
[02:16] <Jeezis>  god my 2 yr old cousin is wreaking havoc with my comp
[02:17] <glick> 'apt-get install gcc' at the command line as root
[02:17] <Jeezis> asdgfeft7u
[02:17] <Fanskapet> :)
[02:17] <Jeezis> rrjyyy3uki
[02:17] <nbk> stuNNed: hey whats up, got it working, now i just have to add "modprobe ndiswrapper" somewhere so it loads at startup but i forget where
[02:18] <Jeezis> rui90o.uirf45gffhyrerybhiQWQ XS3GVdrj3e5] sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[02:18] <Jeezis> wwgtj[
[02:18] <hybrid> Jeezis: STFU
[02:18] <ajmitch> Jeezis: please don't
[02:18] <othernoob> couldn't have said it better Jeezis
[02:19] <Fanskapet> hehe i have some kind of ugly installation of mine :)
[02:19] <hmsmariano> hey people
[02:19] <hybrid> hello hmsmariano
[02:19] <Jeezis> sorry 2 yr old kives buttons
[02:19] <hmsmariano> anybody can help with mp3 plugins for ubuntu?
[02:20] <J35U5> hmsmariano, use xmms
[02:20] <thingfish> hmsmariano: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:20] <hmsmariano> yes J35u5
[02:20] <Fanskapet> i followed some newbie tutorial and ndiswrapper is being activated at startup.. however i get some nasty error something like "couldn't load driver module" blahablaha.. but my wlan is working anyway :)
[02:20] <hmsmariano> i've done that but xmms and beep hang up
[02:20] <J35U5> hmm.
[02:20] <hmsmariano> when trying to play an mp3
[02:21] <nbk> hey, i just set up my wireless card with ndiswrapper, what file do oi gotta change so ndiswrapper gets modprobed at boot though? thx
[02:21] <hmsmariano> is it necessary to install a plugin?
[02:22] <Fanskapet> rc.d should work i guess
[02:22] <jhave> Hi
[02:22] <Shuddertrix> Odd. Gnome is not saving the list of startup applications correctly.
[02:22] <hmsmariano> hi jhave
[02:22] <jhave> can i get 600*400 in grub ?
[02:22] <Fanskapet> hmm gotta reinstall my ubuntu installation, it's just so messy right now.
[02:22] <Fanskapet> and maybe i could get that damn FGLX driver to work this time.. hummz
[02:22] <Fanskapet> crappy shit
[02:23] <jim64654> can someone help me configure a modem?
[02:23] <hybrid> jim64654: MORE INFO PLZ
[02:23] <jhave> sombody there get the new cdroms ?
[02:23] <hybrid> srry for the caps
[02:23] <raDeon> HAHAHA CAP GUNS
[02:23] <jhave> i ordre some but dont get it
[02:23] <jim64654> i made a post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=190881#post190881
[02:23] <spanglesontoast> anyone know how to compile programs?
[02:24] <reisio> spanglesontoast: man gcc
[02:24] <Fanskapet> btw anyone here that had successfully got the glfx driver to work with an ATI Mobility 9700?
[02:24] <hmsmariano> which ones, jhave?
[02:24] <hmsmariano> hoary=
[02:24] <Prophet> ok i got gcc and it works, no i get "C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[02:24] <Prophet> now*
[02:24] <raDeon> HAHAA HOARY TIGER
[02:24] <glick> when do you think xfce 4.2 will be put into debian testing or unstable?
[02:24] <Fanskapet> have tricked around alot with it.. but i always got a black screen upon xorg startup.
[02:24] <Fanskapet> (64bit driver)
[02:24] <Shuddertrix> glick: this isn't #debian, this is #ubuntu
[02:25] <glick> oops
[02:25] <hybrid> glick: ubuntu has 4.2.1
[02:25] <glick> :)
[02:25] <Burgundavia> glick, to answer your question, I suspect after the sarge release
[02:25] <Burgundavia> Prophet, did you install build-essential?
[02:25] <raDeon> HAHAHA YOUR MOTHER'S NAME IS MURRAY
[02:25] <glick> BurgerMann, should be after a couple of days no?
[02:26] <Prophet> doing so now
[02:26] <Burgundavia> glick, no idea when, but RSN
[02:26] <reisio> Shuddertrix: that's a horrible thing to say :/
[02:26] <reisio> Shuddertrix: Ubuntu should aim for Debian compatibility
[02:26] <glick> RSN>
[02:26] <glick> ?
[02:26] <reisio> where would it be without Debian
[02:26] <raDeon> reisio: ideally.
[02:26] <spanglesontoast> is there a package for firestarter?
[02:26] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, yes
[02:26] <CowBrain> evening yall
[02:26] <hybrid> reisio: ubuntu is compatible but we are not *debian*
[02:26] <Burgundavia> reisio, we do, at the source level, not at the binary level
[02:26] <Prophet> ok works now thanks
[02:26] <raDeon> however in an ideal world, we wouldn't have to deal with john kerry
[02:27] <jhave> hmsmariano, some of INTEL32 and some of AMD64
[02:27] <reisio> hybrid: according to Ian Murdock, Ubuntu packages are often not compatible :p
[02:27] <BR0KEN> nautilus automatically opened when i stuck a data cd in the drive.  how can i stop this behavior?
[02:27] <spanglesontoast> where?
[02:27] <Burgundavia> raDeon, your statement are off topic and somewhat rude, can you please tak yourself somewhere else
[02:27] <thingfish> I second that
[02:27] <Burgundavia> reisio, on SARGE, not SID, which Ubuntu syncs to
[02:27] <PacoBCN> Hi people. Anyone works or managed to work with infrared port?
[02:27] <BR0KEN> raDeon is funny.
[02:27] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, in universe. Have you enabled it?
[02:27] <spanglesontoast> not sure
[02:28] <reisio> derivative distributions are silly imo
[02:28] <spanglesontoast> I tend to use synaptic
[02:28] <navreet> John Kerry!
[02:28] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, in syn settings-->repos
[02:28] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, add --> click on universe and multiverse
[02:28] <CowBrain> man kubuntu i didnt know there was one with kde in it
[02:29] <CowBrain> hmmmm
[02:29] <CowBrain> i may have some work to do heh
[02:29] <Burgundavia> reisio, Ubuntu aims to be as close to Debian as possible. We are very aware of the debt we owe them
[02:29] <spanglesontoast> ah ty
[02:29] <spanglesontoast> yea but you beat them lol
[02:30] <raDeon> Burgundavia my comment was not off-topic at all
[02:30] <raDeon> it was highly on topic
[02:30] <Jeezis> good lord sorry about that
[02:30] <jim64654> can anyone help me configure my modem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=190881#post190881
[02:30] <Burgundavia> raDeon, john kerry and someones mothers name is completely off topic for #ubuntu
[02:30] <thingfish> *plonk
[02:30] <thingfish> for raDeon, that is.
[02:30] <kikdadog> i need a little help with my cd writer, anybody want to try
[02:30] <raDeon> No it's not because john kerry does not support the ubuntu project
[02:31] <Jeezis> my little cousin discovered the limitless fun that are laptop keyboards
[02:31] <thingfish> hehe
[02:31] <kikdadog> but al gore invented the net
[02:31] <raDeon> kikdadog
[02:31] <raDeon> your mother's name is al gore
[02:31] <CowBrain> whats the best info site for ubuntu
[02:31] <kikdadog> umm,
[02:31] <spanglesontoast> what does sun-rpc portmap mean?
[02:32] <Burgundavia> CowBrain, what sort?
[02:32] <kikdadog> anybody a ubuntu genius
[02:32] <Burgundavia> spanglesontoast, if you don't know, you don;t have to worry about it
[02:32] <Burgundavia> RPC is remote procedure call
[02:32] <kikdadog> ???
[02:32] <Burgundavia> Sun is Sun, of Java
[02:32] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[02:32] <raDeon> CowBrain www.google.com
[02:32] <spanglesontoast> so I can let it through?
[02:32] <kikdadog> i need a guru
[02:32] <CowBrain> hmmm not sure i understand the question Burgundavia though im using the latest release the hoary hedgeho i think it is
[02:32] <hybrid> kikdadog: i am a genuis and use ubuntu do i qualify
[02:32] <Lafitte-> anyone familiar with the built in wireless gui and iwconfig both ?    have question about connecting
[02:33] <Burgundavia> CowBrain, forums at ubuntuforums.org
[02:33] <Burgundavia> CowBrain, help here or there
[02:33] <CowBrain> ok thanks
[02:33] <Burgundavia> CowBrain, wiki for help
[02:33] <kikdadog> if u can figuire out my prob u will qualify
[02:33] <jim64654> i posted there and no help
[02:33] <hybrid> kikdadog: whts up
[02:34] <kikdadog> when i insert a blank cd it is automatically recognised, but when i try to burn , it cant find the cd
[02:34] <kikdadog> the writer i mean
[02:35] <othernoob> how do i install gnome ?
[02:35] <thingfish> apt-get install gnome
[02:35] <hybrid> is the burner prog  config to see the burner
[02:35] <othernoob> thanks, thought so, wasnt sure if that's all
[02:36] <thingfish> how did you get ubuntu installed, without installing gnome?
[02:36] <othernoob> kubuntu ;)
[02:36] <thingfish> I was thinking that...
[02:36] <jhave_> sombody there can help me whit grub ?
[02:36] <spanglesontoast> could have told us that we were hanging there
[02:36] <spanglesontoast> :D
[02:36] <thingfish> hehe
[02:36] <othernoob> i prefer kde, but the prog genius needs gnome ..
[02:37] <kikdadog> yea k3b sees it, all graveman and, gnomebaker see it. the strange thing is when i try to configuire xcdroast it doenst see a thing freeses on the looking for devices screen
[02:37] <Fanskapet> agh.. i feel the need for a virtual-cdrom device in XP64!
[02:37] <Fanskapet> don't have CDR's at home right now :/
[02:38] <hybrid> can u burn w/teh rest?
[02:38] <kikdadog> nope
[02:38] <hybrid> o
[02:38] <jim64654> god this sucks, fuck linux if i can't even install modem.
[02:38] <spanglesontoast> does firestarter sit on top of my iptables?
[02:38] <kikdadog> same prob, they run to the point of just about writing to the cd and they stop
[02:38] <thingfish> modems can be tricky, since a lot of them are winmodems.
[02:38] <Fanskapet> jim64654 is your kernel compiled with PPP ?
[02:38] <cg88> anyone willing to help me out with a weird audio problem?
[02:38] <Shuddertrix> spanglesontoast: I'm pretty sure that firestarter uses iptables, if that's what you mean..
[02:39] <kikdadog> they dont stop they freeze
[02:39] <spanglesontoast> yea
[02:39] <thingfish> Fanskapet: he's a newbie, how does he know?
[02:39] <jim64654> umm, wouldn't know. i just freshly installed it from the cd i got today.
[02:39] <spanglesontoast> what's SSDP?
[02:39] <Fanskapet> thingfish, ok.. probably not then :)
[02:39] <thingfish> hehe
[02:39] <Fanskapet> agh.. damn i miss BeOS :(
[02:39] <thingfish> aack
[02:40] <Fanskapet> the simplicity.. the neat fast little GUI
[02:40] <Fanskapet> ahh
[02:40] <Fanskapet> those were the days
[02:40] <thingfish> Fanskapet: you want #beos
[02:40] <cg88> Fankapet: What's the last version of BeOS you ran?
[02:40] <Fanskapet> cg88 Zeta
[02:40] <kikdadog> i always fiddleing with crap, i must have buggered something up
[02:41] <Fanskapet> thingfish i want what? :)
[02:41] <kikdadog> and seeing i cant burn a cd, i cant back my stuff up
[02:41] <jim64654> why isn't there the usr/src/<version> directory to make my driver?
[02:41] <kikdadog> its a vicious cycle
[02:42] <J35U5> anyone know how to play WMV's in xmms?
[02:42] <thingfish> I'll swear, there is nothing but crazy people in this channel.
[02:42] <J35U5> lol why do you say that?
[02:42] <CowBrain> where is the apt sources list again
[02:42] <mr_XP> Hello Does Ubuntu have somekind of register to configure applications and os settings?
[02:42] <Fanskapet> nothing wrong with crazy people..
[02:43] <jim64654> all i want is my modem to work god damnit
[02:43] <jim64654> lol
[02:43] <Shuddertrix> J35U5: Try using a video player instead of a music player.
[02:43] <Fanskapet> it's normal to be un-normal
[02:43] <raDeon> crazy people are the BEST
[02:43] <Davey|Ubuntu> I do miss YaST :/
[02:43] <othernoob> thingfish: after installing gnome, will kde still be the standard windowing system ?
[02:43] <spanglesontoast> are there such thing as debian girls ?
[02:43] <hybrid> othernoob: yea
[02:43] <J35U5> Shuddertrix, There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/lateralus/Desktop/Nocturne/05%20Walk%20Away.wma", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:44] <spanglesontoast> install gdm aswell othernoob
[02:44] <othernoob> hybrid: thanks
[02:44] <J35U5> oh crap its a wma
[02:44] <thingfish> othernoob: I don't know, but regardless, if gdm is installed along with gnome, you should be able to select it.
[02:44] <othernoob> gdm ?
[02:44] <hybrid> othernoob: np
[02:44] <Shuddertrix> J35U5: Oh, you mean wma. You need xmms-wma then.
[02:44] <thingfish> othernoob: even if it's still using kdm, you should then have gnome as a choice.
[02:44] <J35U5> Shuddertrix, thanks im gonna get it now.
[02:44] <Shuddertrix> You can get it on the ubuntu guide addon cd, it even alienates the rpm for you
[02:44] <mr_XP> Hello Does Ubuntu have somekind of register to configure applications and os settings?
[02:45] <jim64654> someone go to my post on the ubuntu forums, figure out my problem, then post the solution, i will give you 50000+ PPCDs
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> yea trust me install for now it will make life easier
[02:45] <thingfish> mr_XP: there is no windows style registry
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> it allows you to switch guis
[02:45] <raDeon> where can i find pictures of debian girls
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> desktop guis
[02:45] <apollo2011> mr_XP Linux doesn't have an equivalent to the Windows registry
[02:45] <hybrid> jim64654: PPCD?
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> I just asked that radeon
[02:45] <jim64654> yeah
[02:45] <hybrid> whats PPCD
[02:45] <othernoob> spanglesontoast: i wasn't doubting that, i didnt know what gdm is ;) but thanks, i'll install it
[02:45] <spanglesontoast> windows registry sucks.
[02:45] <mr_XP> Then how can I configure settings?
[02:45] <thingfish> mr_XP: IT'S A WHOLE NEW WORLD, BABY!
[02:46] <Shuddertrix> spanglesontoast: If you mean women that use Debian and the likes, my wife enjoys using ubuntu on her notebook. ;)
[02:46] <spanglesontoast> use your brain
[02:46] <spanglesontoast> think mr xp
[02:46] <jim64654> i will give you 50000 maybe 60000 if you figure out my modem problem
[02:46] <spanglesontoast> lol shuddertrix
[02:46] <othernoob> Shuddertrix: do you mind sharing ;)
[02:46] <mr_XP> ok
[02:46] <Shuddertrix> othernoob: Yes, infact i do mind.
[02:46] <spanglesontoast> I was going to start being bitchy but I'll stay put
[02:46] <Shuddertrix> No begging for pictures, either.
[02:46] <hybrid> 50000 wat? wat is PPCD
[02:46] <othernoob> :/ lol
[02:46] <mr_XP> one more question
[02:47] <Fanskapet> raDeon, do you live up to your name?? then solve this.. why.. do i get a black screen upon starting xorg with ATI's own glx driver? :D
[02:47] <Fanskapet> raDeon you have 10 seconds counting from not :)
[02:47] <Fanskapet> now even :)
[02:47] <othernoob> Shuddertrix: id get in trouble with my gf anyway ;)
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> has anyone got any attractive debian girl pics ?
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> :P
[02:47] <thingfish> hehe spanglesontoast
[02:47] <hybrid> spanglesontoast: heh
[02:47] <Fanskapet> spanglesontoast there are no such thing as debiangirls
[02:47] <Davey|Ubuntu> what is the preferred path for non-standard binary installations?
[02:47] <thingfish> sure there are
[02:47] <spanglesontoast> told you I was bitchy
[02:48] <mr_XP> Does onyone know how to configure the plugin for firefox to play videos from msn.com?
[02:48] <jim64654> fine, no one gets my reward then
[02:48] <CowBrain> grrr whats the package tag for mplayer in apt
[02:48] <Fanskapet> probably some odd strange geek invented in his sick brain
[02:48] <Fanskapet> :)
[02:48] <Shuddertrix> spanglesontoast: You'll have to figure out how to get into my /photos if you want any.
[02:48] <thingfish> they all weigh about 185 and have pimples.
[02:48] <Davey|Ubuntu> CowBrain: apt-cache search mplayer
[02:48] <spanglesontoast> lol
[02:48] <CowBrain> hmmmm thanks davey ill try that im new to apt
[02:48] <Fanskapet> and no... it wasn't me :D
[02:48] <Davey|Ubuntu> CowBrain: not a problem :)
[02:49] <jim64654> anskapet> and no... it wasn't me :D
[02:49] <jim64654> <Davey
[02:49] <jim64654> wtf?
[02:49] <Fanskapet> hmm time to hit the pillow for the night soon.. getting late here in sweden..
[02:49] <CowBrain> Davey|Ubuntu, hmmm you have any idea what this is this is the output of that command
[02:49] <spanglesontoast> ok is there some fit woman in clothes then?
[02:49] <CowBrain> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[02:49] <Davey|Ubuntu> CowBrain: thats not it
[02:50] <CowBrain> suddenly i look even more confused :P
[02:50] <jim64654> im going back to windows 2kpro
[02:50] <Fanskapet> tired after bitching with a new CPU-fan installation and FreeBSD a whole day.. *yawns*
[02:50] <cafuego> Please tell me breezy has not been fixed yet.
[02:50] <Davey|Ubuntu> CowBrain: look for something with the same description as mplayer :)
[02:50] <CowBrain> i didnt think that was it but thats what came out with the apt-cache
[02:50] <raDeon> where can i find the debian girls
[02:50] <Davey|Ubuntu> CowBrain: I guess its not in apt
[02:50] <Shuddertrix> raDeon: how about this, try #debian ;)
[02:51] <Shuddertrix> you should say, "where can i find the ubuntu girls"
[02:51] <spanglesontoast> theres not really a mascot thou for ubuntu
[02:51] <hybrid> ubuntu pR0n
[02:51] <spanglesontoast> it's like this weird circle
[02:51] <hybrid> lol
[02:51] <Shuddertrix> it's a circle of 3 people.
[02:52] <hybrid> circle o' friends
[02:52] <CowBrain> man i miss ports in FBSD but give me a couple days ill get the hang of this apt system
[02:52] <cafuego> The debian girl are out the back, in the shower, soaping eachother up.
[02:52] <cafuego> CowBrain: It's pretty good, sort of like ports minus the wait whilst stuff compiles.
[02:52] <spanglesontoast> yea but it would be good if ubuntu had a mascot
[02:53] <cafuego> spanglesontoast: I offered mnyself, but the judges vomited...
[02:53] <Shuddertrix> does it need one?
[02:53] <Fanskapet> mascot's sucks
[02:53] <Fanskapet> looks so unproffersional
[02:53] <geetergod> is this ubuntu chat?
[02:53] <spanglesontoast> yes geeter
[02:54] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: if this is still #ubuntu, then yes.
[02:54] <Fanskapet> it's way better that the team works some more on the kernel than inventing a stupied ugly mascot
[02:54] <cafuego> Fanskapet: Must be why toyota is doing so badly
[02:54] <geetergod> i just downloaded Americas Army, saved it on my desktop, how do i install it?
[02:54] <Fanskapet> cafuego probably
[02:54] <spanglesontoast> oh dear.
[02:54] <darko__> is it possible to make a link with arguments? for example a link to 'mplayer -lavdopts 1'
[02:54] <geetergod> it opens it up in a word editor program when i double click it
[02:54] <hybrid> AA for linux?
[02:55] <hybrid> will it work on PPC?
[02:55] <geetergod> ya AA for linux
[02:55] <Davey|Ubuntu> cafuego: perhaps you know the answer to my question, where is the preferred default path for 3rd party binary installs?
[02:55] <Fanskapet> geetergod, if it's a binary.. just click it i guess. if it's a compressed file.. just unpack it :)
[02:55] <cafuego> hybrid: 99% certain it won't.
[02:55] <cafuego> Davey|Ubuntu: /usr/local
[02:55] <hybrid> cafuego: :'(
[02:55] <hybrid> there is NO ppclin games
[02:55] <cafuego> hybrid: commericla linux developers (especially for games) invariably do x86 (i386) only
[02:55] <geetergod> why does it wanna open it with Text Editor?
[02:56] <Fanskapet> geetergod try running it from a terminal
[02:56] <spanglesontoast> I love how many new games are coming onto linux
[02:56] <hybrid> cafuego: bigger market
[02:56] <cafuego> hybrid: there's supertux, tuxracer, frozen-bubble
[02:56] <othernoob> spanglesontoast: such as ?
[02:56] <darko__> spanglesontoast: there are?
[02:56] <cafuego> hybrid: Maybe their code is so bad it won't compile on non-x86
[02:56] <spanglesontoast> erm
[02:56] <geetergod> i just had my bro put ubuntu on my puter, i couldnt take windows anymore
[02:56] <Fanskapet> ./american-army-crappy-game-blahablaha
[02:56] <spanglesontoast> that one
[02:56] <spanglesontoast> enemy territory
[02:56] <nekohayo> someone, is there a way to WRITE ntfs on the ubuntu live cd?
[02:56] <hybrid> cafuego: heh I want AA tho
[02:56] <hybrid> lol
[02:57] <Fanskapet> hmm ntfs rw is not a good choice
[02:57] <cafuego> hybrid: A one-way ticket to Iraq shouldn't be too expensive ;-)
[02:57] <geetergod> what do i type in the terminal?
[02:57] <hybrid> cafuego: yea
[02:57] <darko__> nekohayo: try captive-ntfs, but since you don't know how to seacrh google i doubt you get captive working :P
[02:57] <Fanskapet> the ntfs write support screwed up my last w2k3 installation
[02:57] <cafuego> hybrid: Seriously though, for linux gaming you'll need an x86 box.
[02:57] <darko__> there's also a commercial solution...
[02:58] <nekohayo> I wanted to ask here for the U LIVECD, not for general linux applications since I didn't know which one was in use, and I have no time
[02:58] <nekohayo> so thanks
[02:58] <hybrid> cafuego: ok i wont have games
[02:58] <cafuego> spoonman2: That's coz they have intelligence
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> what does port 8008 do?
[02:58] <spoonman2> cafuego, :-/
[02:58] <geetergod> Fanskepit u here?
[02:58] <hybrid> spanglesontoast: boob port?
[02:58] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: 'sh ./armyops230-linux.run' should work, without the '
[02:58] <Fanskapet> yes
[02:58] <cafuego> hybrid: Well, there's the prepackaged ones...
[02:59] <geetergod> thanks
[02:59] <Fanskapet> if you mean Fanskapet that is
[02:59] <cafuego> hybrid: ... but not the new commericla ones.
[02:59] <Davey|Ubuntu> how do I mount an NTFS filesystem?
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> :(
[02:59] <darko__> Fanskapet uses beos?
[02:59] <hybrid> cafuego: yea i have played gnu tetris for ever
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> well it's coming from my router
[02:59] <cafuego> hybrid: <heh> There's better ones :-)
[02:59] <spoonman2> Davey|Ubuntu, man mount
[02:59] <hybrid> cafuego: XFCE so kde games n gnome
[02:59] <cafuego> hybrid: frozen-bubble is nice. I prefer gnocatan myself (but that's based on a boardgame)
[02:59] <Davey|Ubuntu> spoonman2: well, I did mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/C but it no workie :/
[02:59] <Fanskapet> darko__, not at the moment since my only workstation "Ferrari 3200 laptop" doesn't work well toghether with BeOS/Zeta.
[03:00] <hybrid> i love tetris
[03:00] <geetergod> says no such file or directory
[03:00] <darko__> hehe :) visste jeg hadde sett deg anng beos :)
[03:00] <Davey|Ubuntu> ah, the problem is I'm not root :/
[03:00] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: you are in the directory it downloaded to, right?
[03:00] <Shuddertrix> and it downloaded as armyops230-linux.bin?
[03:00] <darko__> Fanskapet: petter kanskje?
[03:01] <Fanskapet> Davey|Ubuntu, should work with just mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah, ubuntu should know the filesystem type as default.
[03:01] <cafuego> hybrid: 'apt-cache search game' should list a few hundred for you.
[03:01] <hybrid> lol
[03:01] <Fanskapet> darko__, mjao.. petter?
[03:01] <geneo93> beos was great in its day
[03:01] <spoonman2> Davey|Ubuntu, try to find out what /dev/C is? it could be that C is not the name of the device, the devicename would be /dev/hda[1 or 2 or...]  or something similar.
[03:01] <nekohayo> I hate SP2 -_-
[03:01] <cafuego> hybrid: 'bzflag' is a little bit like a 3d shooter, and is networked.
[03:01] <geetergod> i just opened up the terminal
[03:01] <hybrid> lol
[03:01] <geetergod> i saved it to the desktop
[03:01] <hybrid> cafuego: bzflag is nice
[03:02] <spanglesontoast> why is my browser so slow at loading pages?
[03:02] <darko__> Fanskapet: du som lagde en del beos sider og snn :) det hukser jeg, var ogs noe med opera?
[03:02] <geneo93> freecraft is nice also
[03:02] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: did you clear your cache?
[03:02] <dabaSlon> and cookies.
[03:02] <darko__> geneo93: haiku is on it's way though :P
[03:02] <cafuego> spoonman2: Just felt like it
[03:03] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: cd Desktop
[03:03] <Fanskapet> darko__: mjo hll i BeGaming tillsammans med BeEmulated snubben en svng.. hmm opera?
[03:03] <spanglesontoast> this is more or less a brand new install
[03:03] <geetergod> i downloaded it from the AA site on the desktop
[03:03] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: yeah, I was here when you installed it, it depends on the amount of web pages you visit, not the time.
[03:03] <cafuego> fried too
[03:03] <darko__> Fanskapet: ah
[03:03] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: tahts only the first thing you can try, tho.
[03:04] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: do that, and tell me if it is faster.
[03:04] <geneo93> darko__:  i dont see that for a few more years
[03:04] <geetergod> sorry i suck at this, first day with it
[03:04] <geneo93> and then it will be at R5 level
[03:04] <spanglesontoast> nope
[03:05] <spanglesontoast> it isn't
[03:05] <spanglesontoast> althought it started when I install firestarter
[03:05] <dabaSlon> ok, thats a legit reason too. fireewalls slow down your computer.
[03:05] <dabaSlon> try disabling it.
[03:05] <darko__> geneo93: yeah... i need my wine and games :)
[03:05] <ced_> I'm just curious, but how are shipit cds free? Wouldn't it cost substantially more to ship a cd with cdart and a case with coverart then a blank cdr?
[03:05] <darko__> that's wine as in linux wine
[03:05] <ced_> err not to ship, but to make
[03:05] <Davey|Ubuntu> wtf...
[03:06] <dabaSlon> I would  just like to point out that a game called Americas Army is just fooling young americans into thinking it is fun and games in the army...
[03:06] <Davey|Ubuntu> Music Player (Rythmbox) says it can't play MP3 files :/
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> I got rid of it
[03:06] <geetergod> its fun tho :)
[03:06] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: good, so, you cleared out the cache?
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> I don't care I'm not american lol
[03:06] <geetergod> im old enough to know better hah
[03:06] <dabaSlon> and copokies?
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> yea
[03:06] <Fanskapet> agh my drink-glass is empty now :/ does that mean that it's the end of the night? :/
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> all
[03:07] <darko__> haha
[03:07] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: great, please tell me if you know your ISPs home page, and if you do, please type it in.
[03:07] <LinuxJones> dabaSlon, that's why they developed it :)
[03:07] <Fanskapet> or does it mean that I need to get a refill? :D
[03:07] <spanglesontoast> why would you need to know that?
[03:07] <dabaSlon> so you can ping their site, to see if there is congestion.
[03:07] <dabaSlon> :)
[03:07] <hybrid> Fanskapet: refill always
[03:07] <dabaSlon> I work for COmcasgt tech soupport, I get 5 ppl with slow speed every day:)
[03:08] <hybrid> dabaSlon: heh]
[03:08] <geetergod> can u guys help me install it tho? my first day on ubuntu
[03:08] <Fanskapet> hybrid ahh oke
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> 1919 ms
[03:08] <thingfish> Fanskapet: I haven't heard "last call" yet.
[03:08] <Fanskapet> okey even...
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> jeez something is odd on here
[03:08] <dabaSlon> I would if I knew how, well, maybe not, but in any case I dont:)
[03:08] <geneo93> darko__:  i have dano/exp and R5 on this box
[03:08] <LinuxJones> geetergod, we can help sure :)
[03:08] <dabaSlon> ok, yes, that is too high.
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> fluxing to 29 ms
[03:08] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: run the sh armyops230-linux.run again
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> then going back up to 2000s
[03:08] <Fanskapet> geneo93, lucky bastad!
[03:08] <Shuddertrix> but, after doing a cd Desktop
[03:08] <dabaSlon> Please traceroute to there now.
[03:09] <geetergod> where do i go to run it, in Terminal correct?
[03:09] <Shuddertrix> yes
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> where?
[03:09] <dabaSlon> and paste the rwesult onto pastebin.com
[03:09] <Fanskapet> geneo93, BeOS won't boot with my monitor on the lappie... im forced to connect an external monitor to get it to work
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> what's the command for traceroute?
[03:09] <mpm> anyone have experience configuring multiple keyboard layouts with xkb directly (without gnome gui too) that can help me?  I can't seem to get it working
[03:09] <dabaSlon> I dont know:)
[03:09] <dabaSlon> Let me find out.
[03:09] <LinuxJones> geetergod, you put the cd in your drive and re-boot...press and hold the c button while it boots
[03:09] <Davey|Ubuntu> grrrr
[03:09] <thingfish> Fanskapet: you want #deadend
[03:09] <Davey|Ubuntu> I can't get MP3s to play :/
[03:10] <hybrid> Davey|Ubuntu: mplayer?
[03:10] <hybrid> thingfish: heh
[03:10] <thingfish> ;)
[03:10] <spanglesontoast> either way is there a way to restore iptables
[03:10] <geetergod> theres no CD, i downloaded it
[03:10] <JStrike> Davey|Ubuntu : And you have the gstreamer0.8-maad plugin?
[03:10] <spanglesontoast> to it's defaults/
[03:10] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:10] <geetergod> i donloaded it from the AA site
[03:10] <LinuxJones> geetergod, your installing on a seperate computer jsut for Linux or are you dual-booting with windows ?
[03:10] <dabaSlon> Davey|Ubuntu: did you read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ?
[03:10] <Davey|Ubuntu> JStrike: for what exactly? :)
[03:10] <geneo93> hmmm thats not nice i thought nvidia dad flat screens covered
[03:10] <dabaSlon> thats the one for mop3s.
[03:10] <geetergod> yah, i just got linux, no windows
[03:11] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: oh, it was you with iptables?
[03:11] <geetergod> but i dont have the CD for AA, just downloaded it
[03:11] <JStrike> Davey|Ubuntu : You need the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin to play mp3's
[03:11] <dabaSlon> man iptables, I guess.
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> huh firestarter and shorewall
[03:11] <LinuxJones> geetergod, AA ?
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> I got rid of them
[03:11] <dabaSlon> ok, get rid of the iptables, as well.
[03:11] <geetergod> AmericasArmy
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> cos I thought they had done something weird
[03:11] <LinuxJones> geetergod, ohh
[03:11] <dabaSlon> iptables did something weird more likely, cause you are new, and it is an expert tool/
[03:11] <geetergod> sorry if i type slow, i got a cast on, broke my elbow
[03:12] <spanglesontoast> if I remove and reinstall the iptables
[03:12] <spanglesontoast> will my problem be ok?
[03:12] <geneo93> Fanskapet:  what video card you have
[03:12] <LinuxJones> geetergod, your installing Ubuntu right or AA ?
[03:12] <dabaSlon> it is possible, I doubt it tho. Cause...you need to specify that you want the config files purged, let me find the command.
[03:12] <geetergod> im trying to install AA
[03:12] <geetergod> im on Ubuntu now
[03:12] <dabaSlon> and, I cant tell the future:)
[03:12] <thingfish> yikes how does one break one's elbow?
[03:12] <CowBrain> wierd no gcc by default on ubuntu installs
[03:12] <LinuxJones> geetergod, it's just a file that ends in .sh or .bin right ?
[03:13] <wulfy814> does anyone know how to get randr support (rotate my lcd portrait?)
[03:13] <geetergod> .run
[03:13] <spanglesontoast> ok
[03:13] <wulfy814> it's always greyed out in all linux distros for me
[03:13] <LinuxJones> CowBrain, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential
[03:13] <LinuxJones> geetergod, perfect
[03:13] <geetergod> ok
[03:14] <dabaSlon> dpkg --purge iptables , does anyone think that is the right command to remove a program and its config files?
[03:14] <LinuxJones> geetergod, do you know where you downloaded the AA installer file ?
[03:14] <CowBrain> oh LinuxJones i got gcc installed but i just found it wierd they dont have that install when doing base installation
[03:14] <thingfish> that would about do it, dabaSlon.
[03:14] <geetergod> on the desktop
[03:14] <dabaSlon> ok, do that, spanglesontoast, then see your speed, then reinstall again, if you want it.
[03:15] <dabaSlon> thanks^
[03:15] <thingfish> although I would be more tempted to use synaptic or apt-get to remove it.
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> done it
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> works
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> :D
[03:15] <dabaSlon> faster?
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> ya
[03:15] <thingfish> safer
[03:15] <LinuxJones> CowBrain, one of the goals of Ubuntu is that nobody will have to compile anything :)
[03:15] <geneo93> i thought you could purge with apt
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> how can I be sure that iptables is running?
[03:15] <mpm> Anyone know a way to invoke the gnome-keyboard-layout-daemon/tool from another WM (ie xfce)??
[03:15] <dabaSlon> yeah, I thought it would be iptables, it is an expert tool, I never mess around with firewalls, and port forwarding, and what not, Ill have to learn it one day...
[03:15] <CowBrain> ahhh gotcha but mplayer isnt on apt list and i cant find a .deb for it sigh
[03:16] <jhave> where can i find convert ?
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> got any funky apps I can try out
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:16] <geetergod> when i try opening it it opens in gedit
[03:16] <JStrike> CowBrain : Why do you need mplayer?
[03:16] <geneo93> CowBrain:  enable universe
[03:16] <jhave> where can i find convert ?
[03:16] <geetergod> and just kinda freezes gedit
[03:16] <CowBrain> i did enable universe
[03:16] <jhave> where can i find convert ?
[03:16] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: because it isn't a text file
[03:16] <dabaSlon> a command to print out all processes taht are running | grep 'iptables'
[03:16] <dabaSlon> :)
[03:17] <CowBrain> JStrike, because Mplayer is the ultimate video player available for nix platforms today
[03:17] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: are you asking me if I have funky apps?
[03:17] <geetergod> yah i know thats why i wanna find out how to open it in the right spot
[03:17] <JStrike> Nah
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> yea
[03:17] <LinuxJones> geetergod, you need to cd to the directory holding the file and type sh whateverAAsfilename.run is from within gnome-terminal
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> i get bored lol
[03:17] <hybrid> how do i remove a directory
[03:17] <dabaSlon> Im more into rap...:-p
[03:17] <dabaSlon> jj
[03:17] <geneo93> cow look at restricted formats
[03:17] <dabaSlon> k, well, do you have a picture viewer?
[03:17] <CowBrain> JStrike, what have you found that is better maybe you can convert me :)
[03:17] <mpm> hybrid rmdir if it's empty rm -r if it's not
[03:17] <nickrud> heh, sources.list is now http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> me?
[03:17] <dabaSlon> nice:)
[03:17] <raDeon> WHERE DO I FIND HOT DEBIAN WOMEN
[03:17] <dabaSlon> yeah, sorry
[03:17] <nickrud> and it's been fun
[03:18] <dabaSlon> hehe, radeon.
[03:18] <JStrike> CowBrain : Well, I like gstreamer, but if not use totem-xine
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> don't think I do have it installed
[03:18] <raDeon> dabaSlon are you a hot debian woman
[03:18] <dabaSlon> no, sorry.
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> lol
[03:18] <Davey|Ubuntu> so, I'm still trying to find the preferred third part software installation path - any suggestion
[03:18] <raDeon> are you an ugly debian woman
[03:18] <raDeon> i'm getting desperate
[03:18] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: there is a program called gqview, it is good for pictures/
[03:18] <JStrike> raDeon : Dude, you are irritating
[03:18] <geetergod> that like the Yoper CD?
[03:18] <raDeon> JStrike ok.
[03:18] <LinuxJones> raDeon, they don't exist :)
[03:18] <hybrid> mpm: ty
[03:18] <dabaSlon> JStrike: why are you always trolling?
[03:18] <CowBrain> annoying is an understatment JStrike
[03:19] <spanglesontoast> slideshows?
[03:19] <dabaSlon> so what if he said that?
[03:19] <raDeon> you're a troll get out from my bridge
[03:19] <othernoob> what do i need to download to get libtermcap.so.2 ?
[03:19] <CowBrain> err irritating i mean
[03:19] <mpm> this look familiar anyone?   Option  "XkbLayout" "us,es"
[03:19] <JStrike> dabaSlon : Where have I been trolling?
[03:19] <dabaSlon> I dont kno, you always have an attitude, it seems.
[03:19] <raDeon> OH YEAH WELL I HOPE YOU GET BOVINE SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY
[03:20] <CowBrain> hmmm
[03:20] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: well, preview, and taht, prolly has a sliedshow, not sure.
[03:20] <JStrike> dabaSlon : And where have I shown attitude?
[03:20] <LinuxJones> raDeon, please stop using caps ;)
[03:20] <dabaSlon> radeon, please dont use caps like that, one of the ops will ban you.
[03:20] <Q_Continuum> *sigh* I dont' want to have to figure out how to get this processor running at max speed, but I so want 2.4GHz not 1.6GHz...
[03:20] <spanglesontoast> ya has a slidshow
[03:20] <dabaSlon> JStrike: ok, sorry, just forget it, its not important.
[03:21] <Madpilot> dabaSlon: trouble is there aren't any mods around right now. This clown as been here for a couple hours already...
[03:21] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: I use gtk-gnutella for p2p...
[03:21] <Q_Continuum> the RAM is automatically upped when I increase the CPU clock...and I can't change the ratio >.<
[03:21] <dabaSlon> really?
[03:21] <dabaSlon> haha
[03:21] <dabaSlon> sorry:(
[03:21] <raDeon> LinuxJones that's a reasonable request.
[03:21] <Hackmo> Hey all, anyone know how I can turn on surround sound support?
[03:21] <LinuxJones> raDeon, TYVM
[03:21] <Hackmo> I have cambridge soundworks speakers
[03:21] <spanglesontoast> limewire my fav
[03:22] <dabaSlon> spanglesontoast: well, this one is for a fact better.  I used limewire, but it does not even have a search more function.
[03:22] <raDeon> no problems
[03:22] <LinuxJones> ;)
[03:22] <raDeon> i like this ubuntu crew very polite
[03:22] <dabaSlon> it just gives you as many results it wants, no regards of how many you want.
[03:22] <spanglesontoast> ah okies
[03:22] <dabaSlon> This one is real GNU, I think.
[03:22] <spanglesontoast> eventally trying to build a user friendly version of freshmeat
[03:23] <dabaSlon> then, glabels for making cd labels, and any  labels you can imagine, I think.
[03:23] <geneo93> CowBrain:  look here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> no printer here
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> hehe
[03:23] <dabaSlon> thanks, raDeonwe want to like you too:)
[03:23] <geneo93> business cards also
[03:23] <abarbaccia> hey all - how do i setup the samba config file so I have a username and password to log into my samba shares (i can see them but can't log in to access them on anything but localhost)
[03:24] <dabaSlon> well, I never used it neither, jsut ahve it cause some ppl I find know lots on this channel, recommended it.
[03:24] <giga1> hello
[03:24] <spanglesontoast> aho k
[03:25] <raDeon> see i ordered the ubuntu cds and im going to give it a go so i'm test driving the irc channel
[03:25] <Hackmo> can anyone help me with my webcam problem?
[03:25] <Hackmo> It is picked up on boot up but wont work
[03:25] <dabaSlon> thats it, I have a dj app, and maybe some programming IDEs, and standard ubuntu stuff, I use epiphany for browsing tho, I like its appearance bettetr, and it is built on mozilla-ff, in fact wont install without ff.
[03:25] <dabaSlon> hackmo, usually webcams are not working i linux.
[03:25] <dabaSlon> try googleing to find if your model is supported.
[03:25] <dabaSlon> done?
[03:25] <giga1> does anyone know if 802.11b wi-fi stuff works?
[03:25] <pepsi> uhm
[03:25] <Hackmo> dabaSlon: i've googled but not found anything
[03:25] <dabaSlon> giga1: depends on the card, i think.
[03:26] <pepsi> hey, can i use breezy yet? ;)
[03:26] <giga1> yea i was kinda worried about that.... i have a cheapo trendware wi-fi card...
[03:26] <dabaSlon> Hackmo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras is a list...:)
[03:26] <cafuego> pepsi: not if you like X
[03:26] <dabaSlon> not complete, tho.
[03:26] <geetergod> So i downloaded Americas Army onto the desktop now i dont know how to install it
[03:26] <geneo93> no
[03:26] <pepsi> cafuego, i heard there was a fix for the X-not-starting problem
[03:26] <dabaSlon> giga1: look into ndiswrapper, it will tell you if yours works in linux.
[03:27] <dabaSlon> cafuego: lol
[03:27] <dabaSlon> If you like x...:)
[03:27] <geneo93> look at the readme file
[03:27] <cafuego> pepsi: Yeah, downgrade X to the hoary version.
[03:29] <Hackmo> dabaSlon: my camera is supported and it supposed to work on bootup
[03:30] <glick> hot damn my desktop rocks!
[03:30] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: open terminal, chmod +x Desktop/armyops230-linux.run && sh Desktop/armyops230-linux.run
[03:30] <dabaSlon> Hackmo: nice...well, then, I dunno:)
[03:30] <Hackmo> dabaSlon: ok then thanks for your help
[03:30] <dabaSlon> no need for sudo, raelly.
[03:30] <dabaSlon> welcome:)
[03:30] <giga1> ok cool, thanks a bunch for the info, i'll give it a whirl and see if i can make some magic happen
[03:30] <geetergod> ok i did cd Desktop
[03:30] <dabaSlon> scroll up:)
[03:30] <geetergod> sudo sh, then i typed my password...
[03:31] <dabaSlon> good.
[03:31] <geetergod> then it came up with sh-3.00#
[03:31] <cafuego> giga1: If you google for "Linux tew-229ub" you'll find a whole heap of stuff.
[03:31] <dabaSlon> :)
[03:31] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: no, sudo sh ./armyops230-linux.run
[03:31] <Shuddertrix> don't run sh, use sh
[03:31] <dabaSlon> where is that file from?
[03:31] <geetergod> k
[03:32] <Shuddertrix> dabaSlon: it's the America's Army file
[03:32] <dabaSlon> I just wanna see it.
[03:32] <dabaSlon> maybe it is a script, or whatever, I kinda wanna see it.
[03:32] <giga1> coolness
[03:32] <Shuddertrix> I have it running now, it is an installer.
[03:32] <dabaSlon> ah, cool, then you are good.
[03:33] <dabaSlon> im out, I am sick, I have to rest...I got a cold at the end of May:-/
[03:33] <Shuddertrix> shell script, about 745mb (complete installer) ;)
[03:33] <dabaSlon> ha:)
[03:33] <Shuddertrix> Been meaning to install it anyways.
[03:33] <geetergod> Verifying archive integrity...
[03:33] <kestas> for some reason mounting things with smbfs doesnt work in /etc/fstab, but it does work doing it manually
[03:33] <Shuddertrix> I want to know why my GTK fonts are all large, however
[03:33] <kestas> heres the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/291517
[03:33] <giga1> ok thanks everybody for your help!
[03:33] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: congrats, you have it working.
[03:33] <kestas> can someone explain how the hell that is possible?
[03:33] <geetergod> umm now what?
[03:34] <geetergod> sweet
[03:34] <geetergod> uncompressing it
[03:34] <dabaSlon> kestas: should include the fstab:)
[03:34] <raDeon> what's the difference between the ubuntu value tshirt and the regular one
[03:34] <dabaSlon> hahahaha
[03:34] <Shuddertrix> Wait for it to open the license agreement screen.
[03:34] <dabaSlon> lol
[03:34] <kestas> dabaSlon: I did http://pastebin.com/291517
[03:34] <Shuddertrix> Then, it's fairly simpy to install
[03:34] <dabaSlon> ah:)
[03:34] <dabaSlon> I suck.
[03:35] <Shuddertrix> Anyone know why Ubuntu has a weird GTK1 font size and font by default?
[03:35] <Hackmo> If I plug in my USB webcam after the computer has booted up will it automatically work or will I need to mount it?
[03:35] <Dr_Melectaus> Is the torrent tracker still down ??
[03:35] <dabaSlon>  /topic
[03:36] <kestas> /mnt/PubStore mounts just fine, why would one smbfs server mount fine, and another not??
[03:36] <Dr_Melectaus> jesus h christ when will the tracker be back up
[03:36] <dabaSlon> :-/
[03:36] <kestas> theyre both FreeBSD with samba3, and the same config
[03:36] <pepsi> what _was_ jesus's middle name?
[03:36] <pepsi> henry?
[03:36] <kestas> h is for holy
[03:37] <pepsi> hrm
[03:37] <kestas> (its not his real middle name)
[03:37] <dabaSlon> ??
[03:37] <spinifex> I don't think peoeple had middle or last names at that time.    You just type a command before your message, and it translates it into really annoying warez d00d speak
[03:42] <Shuddertrix> armyops works fine ;)
[03:42] <Brad_c> yo
[03:43] <kestas> can any geniuses/geniei tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?
[03:44] <Dr_Melectaus> So when the hell is the tracker going to be back up then??
[03:44] <Brad_c> guys i have a major prob
[03:44] <kestas> it works on the command line, but not in fstab?
[03:44] <geetergod> ok its been installing 4ever
[03:44] <Dr_Melectaus> its been down for about a week now
[03:44] <kestas> it works in fstab for one server, but not for another server?
[03:44] <Brad_c> i installed ubuntu but when i go into Synaptec Package Manager i see no kde desktop environment
[03:45] <Brad_c> any ideas?
[03:45] <Brad_c> i installed ubuntu but when i go into Synaptec Package Manager i see no kde desktop environment
[03:45] <pepsi> uhm
[03:45] <pepsi> install the kubuntu package
[03:46] <Brad_c> ill lool
[03:46] <Brad_c> look*
[03:46] <pepsi> wtf
[03:46] <geneo93> Brad_c:  is that warty or hoary
[03:46] <Brad_c> huh
[03:46] <Brad_c> ?
[03:46] <pepsi> your date
[03:46] <pepsi> is she warty or hoary?
[03:46] <pepsi> or grumpy?
[03:46] <geneo93> uname -r
[03:46] <kestas> so can anyone here answer questions which dont get asked thousands of times per day?
[03:47] <pepsi> no
[03:47] <geneo93> sleezy
[03:47] <pepsi> yes! that should be next
[03:47] <geetergod> who helped me to install Americas Army?
[03:48] <geneo93> kestas:  your samba mounts failed
[03:48] <raDeon> that was me
[03:48] <kestas> geneo93: okay thanks for the response, but I can see that from the "SMB connection failed" message, I want to know why
[03:48] <kestas> geneo93: in particular why it works when I type mount -t smbfs blablabla instead of mount /mnt/storage/
[03:49] <kestas> geneo93: how can there be a difference? they should be exactly the same thing
[03:50] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:50] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <kestas> why doesnt sound work, is there a firewall, how do I get xmms, why doesnt mplayer play .wmvs, how do I get kde, which wm is the best?
[03:51] <abarbaccia> kestas, the problem then is in your fstab file, because it gets the info from fstab when you type mount /mnt/storage
[03:51] <kestas> there have I got your attention?
[03:51] <kestas> SMB connection failed
[03:51] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <geneo93> sorry kestas was watching tv
[03:51] <Brad_c> does kde install off the internet?
[03:51] <kestas> abarbaccia: but theyre the same damn thing, they use the same options, the same everything
[03:51] <abarbaccia> Brad_c, STOP or LEAVE
[03:51] <Brad_c> answer me
[03:51] <abarbaccia> yes
[03:51] <natex> Brad_c, no
[03:51] <ahammond> Brad_c: two things you need to know
[03:51] <abarbaccia> natex, it does too - from apt-get
[03:51] <Brad_c> does it or not?
[03:51] <geneo93> Brad_c:  yes
[03:52] <ahammond> Brad_c: 1) nobody here is obliged in any way to help you
[03:52] <natex> abarbaccia, I wasn't answering his pestering question
[03:52] <abarbaccia> oh
[03:52] <Brad_c> isnt this tech support?
[03:52] <abarbaccia> sorry
[03:52] <geetergod> ive been installing Americas Army for like 10minutes now....
[03:52] <natex> abarbaccia, s'ok
[03:52] <LinuxJones> Brad_c, of course it does don't be rude !!
[03:52] <geetergod> its Installing Base Install
[03:52] <geetergod> is this normal?
[03:52] <Shuddertrix> Brad_c: it's community support.
[03:52] <ahammond> Brad_c: 2) so, if you want help, you need to ask politely and respect other people
[03:52] <xoz> kestas: possible that storage is owned by root? ls -ld /mnt/storage
[03:52] <kestas> its the FAQ channel ffs
[03:52] <geneo93> its not on the cd (hint)
[03:52] <Brad_c> funny if i spam people help
[03:52] <Brad_c> lol
[03:52] <abarbaccia> Brad_c, we are not paid, and please use google first for obvious questions
[03:53] <Brad_c> lol
[03:53] <Brad_c> ahahaha
[03:53] <pepsi> dont be an ass, dude
[03:53] <kestas> xoz: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 48 2005-05-16 04:23 /mnt/storage/
[03:53] <Brad_c> when i spam i get answers
[03:53] <Shuddertrix> Brad_c: You annoy us with the spam, we had to make you stop.
[03:53] <kestas> xoz: it is owned by root, is that a prob?
[03:53] <natex> too late he alreadu is
[03:53] <LinuxJones> Brad_c, if you spam you will get a ban ... is that funny to you ?
[03:53] <Shuddertrix> Do it again, and I think you might just get banned
[03:53] <abarbaccia> we need a mod in here to kick him off
[03:53] <xoz> kestas: that's it. change is to the user
[03:53] <pepsi> i think its funny!
[03:53] <ahammond> Brad_c: consider who you're annoying and then recall that your IP is visible.
[03:53] <Brad_c> when i ask politely i get NO answers
[03:53] <xoz> *it*
[03:53] <Brad_c> well thanks anyway
[03:53] <Brad_c> take it easy
[03:53] <pepsi> bye, loser
[03:53] <abarbaccia> Brad_c, patience pays off - and google has 95% of the answers - a lot faster than we do
[03:53] <ahammond> Brad_c: it's possible that nobody knows the answer to your question
[03:54] <natex> hehe pepsi
[03:54] <kestas> xoz: Ill try it, but isnt that what uid=1000 is for? and why would it work using 'mount' if that was a problem?
[03:54] <raDeon> that guy's a moron
[03:54] <geneo93> maybe thats because we are helpig someone else
[03:54] <ahammond> pepsi: that was a little quick
[03:54] <pepsi> :(
[03:54] <raDeon> how dare he show disrespect
[03:54] <novaflare> brad_c ive asked questions here and waited for 2 hours to get a answer and i dont complain. Just look at the number of users in here
[03:54] <xoz> kestas: because you used sudo
[03:54] <abarbaccia> pepsi did you boot him?
[03:54] <geetergod> Shuddertrix, u here?
[03:54] <ahammond> pepsi: he came in kinda stupid but maybe woulda learned
[03:54] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: what do you need?
[03:54] <pepsi> eh? no, he said he was leaving
[03:54] <Shuddertrix> I've installed it fine..
[03:54] <natex> pepsi booted him with the force
[03:54] <pepsi> wtf
[03:54] <abarbaccia> lol
[03:54] <kestas> xoz: well its the exact same problem Im afraid
[03:54] <abarbaccia> pepsi - why are you so mean, he was just confused
[03:55] <kestas> xoz: looks like it didnt make a difference
[03:55] <abarbaccia> and ignorant
[03:55] <geetergod> its STILL installing, its installing Base install, should it be taking this long?
[03:55] <geetergod> oops its done
[03:55] <xoz> kestas: while just reading using fstab means mount is run by the user which has no access to the dir
[03:55] <abarbaccia> lol
[03:55] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: you might not have DMA on
[03:55] <geetergod> im so impatient sorry
[03:55] <pepsi> im an ass, i guess
[03:55] <kestas> xoz: not to mention that the other share, which is on another server //<IP_ADDRESS>/Data /mnt/PubStore works fine with fstab, and its owned by root
[03:55] <natex> pepsi, don't be so hardon yourself
[03:55] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda
[03:55] <geetergod> ok now where do i go to play it?
[03:55] <novaflare> why you say that pespsi?
[03:55] <ahammond> pepsi: yeah, we were already plenty hard on you. :)
[03:56] <LinuxJones> geetergod, it's large file it takes a while to decompress ;)
[03:56] <kestas> xoz: but I run it with sudo, of course I have access Im running as root
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: either in your gnome menus or by typing armyops
[03:56] <xoz> kestas: have you changed it?
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> in the console
[03:56] <kestas> xoz: yes
[03:56] <pepsi> you guys are hard on me :P
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> then, it should work fine.
[03:56] <geetergod> army ops in the gnome terminal?
[03:56] <pepsi> i want to install breezy and i get yelled at and such ;D
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> yes
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> as one word
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> armyops
[03:56] <novaflare> lol
[03:56] <kestas> xoz: but still no difference, why would it say "Access Denied" if it was a problem with the mount point ffs?
[03:56] <geetergod> i think i got it
[03:56] <geetergod> thanks again
[03:56] <Shuddertrix> it will show the splash screen for AA and it should start running soon
[03:56] <pepsi> although after trying multiple times to install it, i think ill wait till the big "PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY" is gone from the topic
[03:57] <LinuxJones> pepsi, /topic :D
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> no problem.
[03:57] <novaflare> heh had somethign damn funny happen today under cedega
[03:57] <geneo93> pepsi:  just dont ask for help
[03:57] <novaflare> i got a bsod error lol
[03:57] <xoz> kestas: access denied in my interpretation is that you don't have access to the target dir
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> novaflare: hmm, isn't that kind of impossible?
[03:57] <novaflare> went to run some app and it crashed with a blue screen error message i damn near fell off my chair
[03:57] <novaflare> nope
[03:57] <pepsi> geneo93, i dont intend to really.. i just wanted to see if it would work or not, but i dont want to bother with it until its less broken
[03:57] <novaflare> was a windows app running under cedega
[03:57] <Shuddertrix> odd
[03:58] <novaflare> obviusly it didnt give me a full on bsod
[03:58] <kestas> xoz: no the error comes from smbmount
[03:58] <novaflare> but sure gave me all the wonderfull error codes heheh
[03:58] <pepsi> the topic makes installing breezy ever more tempting, though
[03:58] <Shuddertrix> usually, if that happens, wine/cedega/cxoffice will crash.
[03:58] <natex> how does ubuntu configure X during fresh install? (command)
[03:58] <kestas> xoz: its as if the password is wrong, but the same username and password works fine if I mount it using 'mount -t smbfs -o blablabla'
[03:58] <novaflare> well i ran with cedega appname.exe
[03:58] <dabaSlon> pepsi not to all.
[03:58] <LinuxJones> pepsi, it's very broken :)
[03:58] <novaflare> so it did crash out back to terminal window
[03:59] <geetergod> now it couldnt set video mode: Couldnt find matching GLX visual
[03:59] <dabaSlon> pepsi I am fine waiting, as long as my comp works...
[03:59] <novaflare> all i could think of is damn im glad i wasnt in windows heh
[03:59] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: Do you have your FGLRX/NVIDIA drivers installed?
[03:59] <Shuddertrix> (depending on what video card you have)
[03:59] <geetergod> prolly not
[03:59] <Shuddertrix> what video card do you have?
[03:59] <geetergod> is that something easy to do?
[03:59] <xoz> kestas: possible also that you have to enable encryption in the smb.conf because pain text passed may not work. this is one bug in the latest tiger of OS X.
[03:59] <xoz> *plain*
[04:00] <Shuddertrix> if it's a Radeon, i don't know, if it is an Nvidia card, it's newbie-proof.
[04:00] <xav> hi... i'm back... switched from debian to ubuntu today...
[04:00] <geetergod> im gettin better so i can do it quicker maybe :)
[04:00] <xoz> s/passed/password
[04:00] <xav> but i can't get mplayer working from marillat repository
[04:00] <xav> libc6 need to be upgraded it seems
[04:00] <natex> does anyone know? how does ubuntu configure X during fresh install? (command)
[04:00] <Strife> why does grip complain that I have an invalid encoder executable (lame) when I indeed have lame installed?
[04:00] <dabaSlon> xav there is one in our repos...
[04:00] <hondje> xav: add multiverse to your regular ubuntu repos and try again
[04:01] <kestas> xoz: tell me this: why would it work doing it with mount -t smbfs -o blablabla, but not when I mount it with the same options specified in /etc/fstab?? how could plain text passwords possibly be a problem from /etc/fstab but not doing it directly??
[04:01] <xav> dabaSlon: where ?
[04:01] <dabaSlon> ^^
[04:01] <geetergod> i have a GeForce III vid card
[04:01] <hondje> xav: multiverse
[04:01] <xoz> kestas: so it must be with the fstab then. i think you have to check access ownership of the dir...
[04:01] <kestas> Strife: sorry your question wont get answered as its not in the ubuntu FAQ, we only answer FAQ questions here
[04:01] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[04:02] <geetergod> ok
[04:02] <kestas> xoz: its NOT ownership of the dir
[04:02] <natex> I changed my xorg.conf and now I boot straight to command line :(
[04:02] <Strife> kestas: LIES!
[04:02] <Strife> heh
[04:02] <Shuddertrix> when that's done, tell me
[04:02] <xav> i do have multiverse in my repos
[04:02] <geetergod> type that in terminal?
[04:02] <Shuddertrix> don't want to have to repeat myself if i type it now
[04:02] <Shuddertrix> yeah
[04:02] <Strife> kestas: plenty of non-FAQ questions get answered in here... hell, I've answered a number myself
[04:02] <dabaSlon> xav remove marillat:)
[04:02] <kestas> Strife: well they must have been pretty simple, or repeated frequently
[04:03] <cyphase> does anyone here want a wordpress blog? I'm working on improving my linux server admin skills, and im trying to get more people on my server..
[04:03] <Davey|Ubuntu> anyone installed MySQL 4.1 using apt-get in Hoary? Where is the data directoy?
[04:03] <Shuddertrix> natex: It says something at the comments at the beginning of the xorg.conf about a debconf something or other..
[04:03] <Davey|Ubuntu> well, no, how do I set it up, after apt-get
[04:03] <xav> dabaSlon: don't tell me that's the way ...
[04:03] <cyphase> Davey|Ubuntu, /var/lib/mysql
[04:03] <natex> Shuddertrix, ok I'll check that out, thanks
[04:03] <Strife> bah, for some reason it didn't like the executable being 'lame' even though it was in my path... I just changed it to /usr/bin/lame and it works
[04:03] <dabaSlon> natex need to reconfigure it?
[04:03] <Davey|Ubuntu> cyphase: and if its not there, I missed something right?
[04:03] <xav> i just forced version ...
[04:03] <cyphase> yea
[04:03] <geetergod> can u tell me what to type each time?
[04:03] <xav> it seems ok
[04:03] <dabaSlon> good
[04:04] <Davey|Ubuntu> ah, just no root password yet
[04:04] <natex> dabaSlon, I changed my refresh rates now GDM doesn't start ("startx" works fine)
[04:04] <Shuddertrix> geetergod: ?
[04:04] <xav> force version of libfaad2-0 (not to use rareware-compression repo)
[04:04] <geetergod> to install invidia
[04:04] <dabaSlon> dpkg --reconfigure xorg(something) I dont do this myself... I heard it from others/.
[04:04] <novaflare> oh i remembersomething i wanted to ask
[04:05] <dabaSlon> as sudo, natex
[04:05] <mp1> does anyone have a clue howto set up 2 languages with xkb?  I'm wasting far too much time on this.
[04:05] <novaflare> ubuntu reports that i have 504 megs ram instead of 512 megs
[04:05] <novaflare> any idea as to why?
[04:05] <dabaSlon> yeah...
[04:05] <Shuddertrix> novaflare: Normal, i presume.
[04:05] <natex> I'll try dabaSlon
[04:05] <dabaSlon> Ram dint work that simple.
[04:05] <hondje> xav: [hondje @ jihad:~] $apt-cache show mplayer-686 | grep Section:     Section: multiverse/graphics   ...It's in there already
[04:05] <kestas> novaflare: I think it uses 8MB for a ram disk
[04:05] <novaflare> k kind of thought this was probably the case
[04:05] <kestas> novaflare: if you want to get it back try compiling your own kernel without initrd
[04:06] <mp1> or what the name of the gnome-keyboard layout manger/daemon is called??
[04:06] <novaflare> na was more curious as to if it was normal
[04:06] <dabaSlon> yes, normal.
[04:06] <novaflare> k
[04:06] <xav> hondje: yes but libfaad2-0 prevented the installation
[04:06] <sidharta> hola alguien que hable espaol???
[04:06] <dabaSlon> like Ihave 512, and shows only 480...shared with graphics.
[04:06] <dabaSlon> xav, not installed?
[04:07] <dabaSlon> sidharta did you try #ubuntu-es ?
[04:07] <neofax> dabaSlon: Do you know how to get a Netgear MA311 NIC(Prism2) USB working?
[04:07] <natex> hey sidharta, that is my favorite book.
[04:07] <hondje> xav: Are you using the mulitverse one or the marillat one?
[04:07] <sidharta> tanx
[04:07] <dabaSlon> neofax no, but Ivoks likely does.
[04:07] <ahammond> natex: dude that was kind of a cornball book
[04:07] <sidharta> yes but no body there
[04:08] <hayden> when i try to play a movie in totem the video and audio is out of sync, any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:08] <dabaSlon> well, try sxpeaking in spanish, and we will speak in english, depends on how deifficult your proble is.
[04:08] <neofax> dabaSlon: Is he here now?  I don't see his nick registered.
[04:08] <dabaSlon> No, it seems not, he lives in Croatia, it is like, 4am there.
[04:08] <cafuego> neofax: you load the prism drivers eh
[04:08] <kestas> hayden: sorry that question isnt generic enough
[04:08] <neofax> hayden: What type of CPU are you using?
[04:08] <natex> ahammond, no way dude. it teaches alot about good life
[04:08] <kestas> hayden: try 'how do I install kde'
[04:09] <sidharta> i instaled ubuntu in my pc but i dont have network
[04:09] <paul_> anybody know how to install java in firefox?
[04:09] <sidharta> but i have ip adres in my pc
[04:09] <neofax> cafuego: They automatically get loaded using hotplug.
[04:09] <cafuego> neofax: *nod* Then all you need to do is set the essid and key using iwconfig (in wireless-tools)
[04:09] <dabaSlon> sidharta router?? modem?? dial-up?? DSL??
[04:09] <pepsi> hayden, if you use VLC you can adjust the synchronization
[04:09] <sidharta> router
[04:09] <kestas> can any geniuses/geniei tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?
[04:10] <hayden> peppsi: ok thanks
[04:10] <paul_> how do i install java in firefox in ubuntu?
[04:10] <neofax> cafuego: OK, I have tried iwconfig wlan0 essid "ATHENEOS".  That does not work I get an error
[04:10] <sidharta> i using a ruter for my network i conected windows en linux mepis and work bun in my ubunto dont work
[04:10] <Davey|Ubuntu> hmm, where are init scripts stored?
[04:10] <cafuego> neofax: Did you run it as root?
[04:10] <dabaSlon> sidharta wired or wireless?
[04:11] <neofax> cafuego: Yes, both as root and as sudo root.
[04:11] <cafuego> neofax: hoooold on. 'wlan0' ? That's not the prism driver.
[04:11] <dabaSlon> paul_ ubuntuguide.org has a walkthru
[04:11] <paul_> trying to install java in firefox here, any tips?
[04:11] <sidharta> wired
[04:11] <mp1> paul_: ubuntuguide.org
[04:11] <dabaSlon> ifconfig? valid IP?
[04:11] <cafuego> neofax: Does 'ifconfig -a' show wlan0 at all?
[04:11] <neofax> cafuego: That is what gets loaded when I plug in the usb
[04:12] <sidharta> yep
[04:12] <Davey|Ubuntu> how do I add an init.d script for postgresql? can I just copy the one from my debian box? :)
[04:12] <dabaSlon> thank god for freenode not allowing too many nick changes at once:-p
[04:12] <neofax> cafuego: Yes, it does
[04:12] <dabaSlon> sidharta eth0?
[04:12] <sidharta> yes
[04:13] <cafuego> neofax: and just running 'iwconfig' lists it as having wireless extensions?
[04:13] <dabaSlon> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 does that help at all?
[04:13] <neofax> cafuego: Yes
[04:13] <cafuego> neofax: Which error do you get when you try to set the essid?
[04:15] <cafuego> neofax: Ah I see, you're probably using linux-wlan-ng drivers.
[04:15] <hondje> anyone else having problems going back to X if you switch to a console while the fast user switching applet is running?
[04:15] <cafuego> neofax: Do you have 'wlanctl' installed?
[04:15] <dabaSlon> sidharta^ bump...
[04:16] <neofax> cafuego: SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[04:16] <sidharta> whait
[04:16] <neofax> cafuego: I have wlanctl-ng
[04:16] <dabaSlon> k
[04:17] <cafuego> neofax: try 'wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=ATHENEOS'
[04:18] <sidharta> not work :(
[04:19] <dabaSlon> ok, did you try shutting the devices down, and rebooting them, first turn on the modem, then router in a minute, then turn on computers?
[04:19] <neofax> cafuego: It errors saying that authtype and resultcode are required
[04:19] <cafuego> neofax: Ha, ok. that's promising :-)
[04:19] <cafuego> lanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable
[04:20] <sidharta> ok
[04:20] <cafuego> neofax: Check 'man wlanctl-ng' for the proper syntax to the essid line; I've never used it myself, so don't know.
[04:20] <dabaSlon> you can try that, sometimes that helps.
[04:20] <cafuego> neofax: I've been looking at http://www.fuw.edu.pl/~pliszka/hints/prism2.html
[04:21] <dabaSlon> shut everything down, then turn oin modem, and when it gets solid lights, router, then computers.
[04:21] <kestas> hahah thatll help
[04:21] <dabaSlon> kestas, are you drunk:)
[04:21] <kestas> drunk on rage
[04:21] <dabaSlon> so not drunk, tho?
[04:21] <neofax> cafuego: Thanks, that gave a result of success
[04:21] <kestas> because noone can tell me why this [ http://pastebin.com/291517 ]  happens?
[04:21] <dabaSlon> wow, good work, cafuego.
[04:22] <dabaSlon> ah, right, kestas.
[04:22] <dabaSlon> did you try what the guy that was talking about the root said?>
[04:22] <dabaSlon> is the folder owned by rooot?
[04:22] <dabaSlon> that kinda makes sense.
[04:22] <kestas> that makes no difference
[04:22] <kestas> why would it?
[04:22] <dabaSlon> well, what can it hurt?
[04:23] <kestas> and why would it give an SMB error?
[04:23] <kestas> but yes I did try it
[04:23] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, good.
[04:23] <dabaSlon> did you try the encryption they mentioned>?
[04:24] <liable> kestas: maybe try changer user to username?
[04:24] <kestas> if it was a problem with 'encryption' (what he meant to say was that smbmount was authenticating using plaintext but it needed to authenticate with lm or ntlm or ntlm2) why would it mount in fstab?
[04:24] <ubuntu> hi
[04:25] <kestas> yay!! liable gets the prizew
[04:25] <ubuntu> still cant get java support in firefox
[04:25] <dabaSlon> wow
[04:25] <kestas> damn what a stupid mistake
[04:25] <dabaSlon> ubuntuguide.org worsk, and also, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java works too.
[04:25] <kestas> thanks, you have restored my faith in #ubuntu
[04:25] <liable> hehe
[04:25] <ubuntu> lol,
[04:26] <Davey|Ubuntu> hmm, not sure about this postgresql init.d script :/
[04:26] <ubuntu> ubuntu is actually kind a crappy
[04:26] <LinuxJones> kestas, nobody told you to save your data in a ghey format !!!
[04:26] <ubuntu> too much configuration
[04:26] <dabaSlon> hehe, ubuntu did you try one of those two sites?
[04:26] <ubuntu> mp3, codecs, java shit that should all be working outta the box
[04:27] <Cyber|Zzz> I'm setting up free hosting on my server. If you would like please visit http://hosting.cybermagellan.com and I'll help you out
[04:27] <kestas> LinuxJones: what? are you going to pretend like you knew the answer all along now?
[04:27] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, well, you dont know that, tho...its meant as a free software, all =together,.
[04:27] <Shuddertrix> ubuntu: Too bad it's against licenses and things to provide that out of the box.
[04:27] <hondje> If you can talk Sun into it, you'd have many thanks from the world.
[04:27] <ubuntu> then they should charge a nominal fee to cover license issues
[04:27] <novaflare> yup
[04:27] <dabaSlon> I couldnt care less.
[04:27] <novaflare> java is a major piss off
[04:28] <Shuddertrix> ubuntu: It's designed to be free, however. Sorry.
[04:28] <dabaSlon> I dont even surf some weird sites, that use that...so what an animation is not working...:-/
[04:28] <novaflare> stnking sun and not allowing it to be included
[04:28] <Shuddertrix> I wouldn't pay for linux in a million years, anyways.
[04:28] <novaflare> yet they let you download for free
[04:28] <novaflare> :\
[04:28] <ubuntu> well, your never going to convert the windows world by making it a configuration nightmare, sorry
[04:28] <hondje> I'd hope not
[04:28] <novaflare> heh
[04:28] <novaflare> linux wont ever be like windows
[04:28] <Shuddertrix> ubuntu: It didn't take me long to get java, mp3, or codecs working.
[04:28] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, well, you know...I have friends, so they set it up for me...till I learned.
[04:29] <kestas> you can always get the java deb, and install, its pretty easy
[04:29] <novaflare> it prob wont ever be as popular and who cares
[04:29] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, windows and linux both at this time have their place...
[04:29] <novaflare> not matter what that aloan is a slight boost in security
[04:29] <Shuddertrix> I used the scripts from ubuntuforums.org and the Ubuntuguide's add-on CD, works like a charm ;)
[04:29] <kestas> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[04:29] <JDahl> ubuntu, who said anything about world dominance? some of us are quite content with what linux does
[04:29] <LinuxJones> kestas, if you want to use your computer in a reasonable way use reasonable formats to store your data. Complain to Microsft about incompatbility with Linux not the other way around and see what you get ?
[04:29] <ubuntu> its strange that i cant use the firefox pluggin installer to get java working
[04:29] <novaflare> i never thought id see the day when i could dump windows
[04:29] <novaflare> yet that days getting damn close
[04:29] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, yeah that does not work.
[04:29] <gaZoo> just finished setting up ubuntu for the first time .. so far so good .. even got my dual monitors working fine with a little tinkering ..
[04:30] <hondje> Why can't this chan get high quality trolls?
[04:30] <ubuntu> by the way, xandros open circulation edition has none of these problems, its free, so why is that?
[04:30] <dabaSlon> novaflare you actually think about these things:)
[04:30] <hondje> The witty ones
[04:30] <gaZoo> lol
[04:30] <novaflare> just need to get rid of a couple graphiics glitches in a game i play and its essentialy good by to windows for me
[04:30] <novaflare> dabaslon i always think about security etc
[04:30] <ubuntu> so i doubt its a license issue
[04:30] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, not free in that sense.l..
[04:30] <dabaSlon> Not free like that, made only from free software.
[04:30] <ubuntu> sun doesnt charge for java
[04:30] <dabaSlon> only gpl software.
[04:30] <kestas> LinuxJones: what the HELL are you talking about?? this wasnt a compatibility problem, it was a typo mistake
[04:31] <novaflare> security tweaking building repairing computers etc
[04:31] <novaflare> as for buying linux
[04:31] <dabaSlon> kestas didnt you say you were upset cause it didnt work?? now its working...
[04:31] <cafuego> Shuddertrix: on i386, sure.
[04:31] <alainm> how do i find out what /dev a particular device is on?
[04:31] <novaflare> if that linux included 6 months sub to cedega and a few other thinggs id buy it
[04:31] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, I dont expect you to understand this...
[04:31] <novaflare> id not think twice about doing so
[04:31] <levander> Anybody remember the name of that web site that had pirated binaries from usenet on it?  It was like newzbinz.com or something like that.
[04:31] <dabaSlon> alain, mounted ones, or noty mounted ones?
[04:32] <ubuntu> the only saving grace i can see about ubuntu, is its speed compared to xandros oce
[04:32] <kestas> dabaSlon: now Im 'upset' at LinuxJones for misunderstanding
[04:32] <novaflare> i see alot of saving graces in ubuntu
[04:32] <novaflare> like oh i dont know ease of install
[04:32] <FR500> msg nickserv ident 2430561
[04:32] <novaflare> 12 or 15 keystrokes and it was set and forget
[04:32] <hondje> The saving grace of ubuntu is that their official IRC chan is so tolerant, IMHO
[04:32] <ubuntu> its so so distro, not the best , not the worst
[04:32] <levander> ubuntu: i've also found better support forums for ubuntu, namely ubuntuforums and freenode than other similar distributions
[04:32] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, I mean, humanity can prosper in another way than capitaism, and I am extremely glad that in my profession this is the most manifested,..you are just a computer user, and I respect your opinion, and trust me, they are working on it.
[04:32] <cafuego> hondje: I expect it's much like #debian. Nothing high quality about the weekend at all.
[04:32] <kestas> jejejej
[04:32] <novaflare> yeh that to hondje
[04:32] <hondje> cafuego: Yeah, and that's a shame :)
[04:33] <novaflare> this is one of the best irc chans out there for friendly people
[04:33] <ubuntu> well i dont see anyone charging for java lmao
[04:33] <dabaSlon> kestas:)
[04:33] <hondje> well, I wouldn't go that far, novaflare
[04:33] <cafuego> hondje: And for most of 'em it's saturday night even, they shouldn't be at home at all!
[04:33] <novaflare> its not that you can download java freely
[04:33] <LinuxJones> kestas, your whining about samba not working or am I mistaken ?
[04:33] <novaflare> but to include it in the os by default youd have to pay for it
[04:33] <kestas> LinuxJones: you are
[04:33] <cafuego> hondje: At least my excuse is I'm hiding in the dark with a hangover ;-)
[04:33] <ubuntu> samba is awesome in xandros, its better
[04:33] <novaflare> every one was bitching ms out about it
[04:33] <hondje> cafuego: I can cite a lack of babysitting :)
[04:34] <kestas> samba is samba
[04:34] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, the freedom to excel  is more important in some ppls opinion that the freedom to buy a case of beer.....
[04:34] <kestas> jejejej
[04:34] <cafuego> hondje: Most people old enough to require (to hire) a babysitter wouldn't be trolls.
[04:34] <ubuntu> mmmm beer sounds good right about now
[04:34] <dabaSlon> alainm what, then, mounted devices, or ones not mounted?
[04:34] <ubuntu> unfortunatly i only have crown royal
[04:34] <hondje> cafuego: Unless they mastered the artform, reaching new heights of subtlety :)
[04:34] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, I am sickk:( I would hatge beer..
[04:34] <LinuxJones> kestas, sorry but I mis-understood something ..what is your problem ?
[04:35] <dabaSlon> ubuntu,  haha...
[04:35] <cafuego> hondje: The few that are will probably go away if you tell them there's a Springer re-run on.
[04:35] <kestas> LinuxJones: no problem , my problem was-- wait 1 sex
[04:35] <novaflare> one thing i love about ubuntu is ive already did some of the same things that totaly killed red hat 9 shrike
[04:35] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:35] <kestas> anyway
[04:35] <kestas> *sec
[04:35] <hondje> yeah, and that's a shame...trolls once took pride in their work :)
[04:35] <ubuntu> so i guess ill settle for a crown on the rocks, thanks, got one good idea out of here, hehe jk
[04:35] <novaflare> yet i was able with help from people here to recover it easly
[04:35] <dabaSlon> one sex, how long is that, Kestas:-p?
[04:35] <cafuego> dabaSlon: In between 20 seconds and 45 minutes.
[04:36] <ubuntu> anybody care for a crown on the rocks? cheers
[04:36] <kestas> closer to 20 seconds probably
[04:36] <dabaSlon> you know that swatch commercial>
[04:36] <levander> Nobody remembers the name of that site that had all the pirated binaries from usenet on it? It was called something like newsbinz.net or something.
[04:36] <cafuego> levander: This isn't #pirated-binaries
[04:36] <hondje> Well, as a certified GNU/Hippy, I'm not big on pirated anythings
[04:36] <ubuntu> try newsgroups for good flicks
[04:36] <dabaSlon> alainm last time Ill ask, you need to list devices, mounted ones, or nonmounted ones?
[04:36] <levander> cafuego: yeah, but somebody in here remembers, i'll check that channel, thanks cafuego
[04:36] <cafuego> Or maybe thiose debian girls, if they're still in the shower...
[04:37] <hayden> how do i change the computer name so i can ping computername or somethign like that?
[04:37] <levander> cafuego: ha, it's dead channel
[04:37] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:37] <hondje> cafuego: I had a debian girl :(
[04:37] <hondje> Then one day she said 'screw this', and made me buy her a dirty mac....it's never been the same
[04:37] <dabaSlon> hondje cmon...
[04:38] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:38] <dabaSlon> hey, Im on a ppc, OS X right now:)
[04:38] <ubuntu> ok whats the apt-get command for getting java ?
[04:38] <LinuxJones> kestas, here is your problem from your own post >> #
[04:38] <LinuxJones> kestas@kestaspc:~$ sudo mount /mnt/storage/
[04:38] <LinuxJones> #
[04:38] <LinuxJones> 8000: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[04:38] <LinuxJones> #
[04:38] <LinuxJones> SMB connection failed ....is that not a Samba problem ?
[04:38] <hondje> I'm serious, it was wonderful. She was apt-getting her way to freedom, and decided that 'just works' would be more fun :(
[04:38] <levander> cafuego: screw you, found it without your help!
[04:38] <dabaSlon> bitchX...I said bitch...:o
[04:38] <LinuxJones> oops
[04:38] <kestas> LinuxJones: yeah but that was because of a typo: I used user=kestas in fstab, and username=kestas in the mount command
[04:39] <kestas> LinuxJones: and I never badmouthed the samba project
[04:39] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:39] <ubuntu> sounds like a router or firewall problem to me
[04:39] <limer> lively conversation tonight
[04:39] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, read ubuntuguide.org for java, or www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java
[04:39] <LinuxJones> kestas, so what's your problem ?
[04:39] <ubuntu> ya i did, it didnt help
[04:39] <kestas> LinuxJones: no problem, you seem to have the problem
[04:39] <dabaSlon> how could that happen??
[04:39] <ubuntu> ill try again however
[04:40] <Lafitte-> anyone here know about wireless problems with Ubuntu ?     i have one  and wanted to try and correct it
[04:40] <dabaSlon> do the ubuntuguide.org, that one is easier.
[04:40] <kestas> ubuntu: add "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:40] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:40] <hondje> oh, that's cheating :-(
[04:40] <dabaSlon> Lafitte- do ask, tho...
[04:40] <ubuntu> i get couldnt find package message
[04:40] <Lafitte-> dabaSlon,  the key for my home Ap  wont remove when changed
[04:41] <kestas> ubuntu: add "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:41] <kestas> ubuntu: then go into synaptic
[04:41] <Lafitte-> i want to save passwords    for different ap  but it always befaults to my home key
[04:41] <kestas> ubuntu and search for jre or java or something
[04:41] <ubuntu> ive been there too
[04:41] <ubuntu> synaptic doesnt show anything
[04:41] <kestas> ubuntu: press refresh then
[04:42] <dabaSlon> use name and description
[04:42] <ubuntu> speaking of which when i enable universal debian support it doesnt take
[04:42] <kestas> ubuntu: and have you ran the "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" command?
[04:42] <LinuxJones> kestas, maybe it was just your condescenting remark >> kestas thanks, you have restored my faith in #ubuntu
[04:42] <ubuntu> no ill try that tho
[04:43] <dabaSlon> LinuxJones lets all forget about that non-constructive converstation.
[04:43] <dabaSlon> one t.
[04:43] <kestas> LinuxJones: yeah well when youve got a weird question which noone is answering, yet questions which are in the FAQ are getting answered left right and center you get testy
[04:43] <dabaSlon> ah, that is what that remark meant, kestas...
[04:43] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:43] <kestas> what did you think it meant?
[04:43] <dabaSlon> youre just drunk, I can tell.
[04:43] <kestas> you have one bad connection FR500
[04:43] <dabaSlon> wasnt sure, I thought you were like serious, or something.
[04:43] <novaflare> ill install mozilla windows version and java and run with cedega when i need to use somethign java based on web pages
[04:43] <LinuxJones> dabaSlon, agreed :)
[04:44] <novaflare> now thats cheating :)
[04:44] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:44] <Lafitte-> freeze
[04:44] <ubuntu> permission denied lol
[04:44] <ubuntu> very very aggravating
[04:44] <novaflare> remove the >>>
[04:44] <ubuntu> roadblocks everywhere i go
[04:44] <dabaSlon> novaflare, yeah, thats not a obfuscated solution at all..
[04:44] <novaflare> heheh
[04:44] <novaflare> has its benifits though
[04:44] <kestas> "sudo "echo "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"" command?
[04:45] <novaflare> talk about sandboxxing heh
[04:45] <kestas> "sudo "echo \"deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java\" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"" command?
[04:45] <LinuxJones> kestas, this channel is filled with people who try their best to help out,  if it's not good enouth for you why not try another channel ?
[04:45] <kestas> FR500 why do you keep leaving and then coming back?!
[04:45] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:45] <hondje> Sun should just open source java, or we should start using gcj more....
[04:46] <dabaSlon> ubuntu, you need basic Unix knowledge, I think, maybe that would help...
[04:46] <dabaSlon> Altho, my first java install was nto friendly neither..
[04:46] <hondje> We don't cry because Intel's cc is only gratis free, because we have gcc
[04:46] <ubuntu> what i need is a distro, that isnt so messed up
[04:46] <kestas> LinuxJones: I tried 3 channels, all of them answering dumbass FAQ questions like 'where is my sound' 'what extra compile options are there to get better speeds' etc
[04:46] <dabaSlon> funky moron....:)
[04:47] <FR500> something is disconecting me each time
[04:47] <dabaSlon> change your nick
[04:47] <kestas> yeah FR500 whats up with that??
[04:47] <dabaSlon> that will help
[04:47] <ubuntu> oh well
[04:47] <kestas> jejejejej
[04:47] <hondje> Then perhaps you can try another distro like SuSE, ubuntu. I tried it out on a lappy, very nice.
[04:47] <ubuntu> close but no cigar
[04:47] <ubuntu> back to xandros
[04:47] <hondje> automagically set up wireless, suspend, etc.
[04:47] <novaflare> some one guessed his pass word and is ghosting him i bet
[04:47] <NigroCubed> ubuntu is greatest
[04:47] <dabaSlon> heh, I love when ppl give up on ubuntu cause of Java, or something like that.
[04:47] <LinuxJones> kestas, those are frequent questions that folks that havn't been using Linux all that long have, it's natural.
[04:47] <dabaSlon> you are politically incorrect...drew..
[04:48] <novaflare> id not mind having java
[04:48] <novaflare> but its far from make or break for me
[04:48] <dabaSlon> novaflare well, is it a pc??
[04:48] <novaflare> yeh