[05:12] <yagoo> [THC]AcidRain, just keep an original copy.. no need to reedit..
[05:12] <solid_liq> Captainkrtek, can you successfully ssh into different machines from that source machine?
[05:12] <kubanc> yagoo, i'm not asking about thah, can i access my ubuntu one account over www?
[05:12] <yagoo> [THC]AcidRain, if it fails that bad.. try adding DisplaySize for both monitors..
[05:12] <yagoo> [THC]AcidRain, did u try that?
[05:12] <[THC]AcidRain> yeah
[05:13] <yagoo> kubanc, www is http://
[05:13] <p_res> or if you use emacs it automatically keeps a backup of everything you edit
[05:13] <bousselham> Hello
[05:13] <yagoo> kubanc, maybe you want webdav
[05:13] <p_res> renames it to ~foobar
[05:13] <yagoo> kubanc, a webdav extension to apache maybe
[05:13] <Captainkrtek> yes
[05:14] <freedom> "We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive" and for this reason i want a vpn for ubuntu
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> !repeat | freedom
[05:14] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, port 22 needs to be opened in the firewall.. ssh uses port 22
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> yagoo: the port can be changed in config
[05:14] <p_res> exit
[05:14] <Captainkrtek> yagoo, im using a different port, trust me that is not the issue
[05:15] <yagoo> if he types ssh with a port number.. by default its port 22
[05:15] <yagoo> without a portnumber->port 22
[05:15] <Captainkrtek> yagoo, Im using ssh -p portnumber
[05:15] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, so..?
[05:15] <Captainkrtek> I know a good bit about ssh, this is just an odd issue
[05:15] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, what number u using?
[05:15] <Captainkrtek> 1686
[05:15] <yagoo> Captainkrtek... so fix the firewall for inletting that #
[05:16] <Captainkrtek> it uses it fine..
[05:16] <Captainkrtek> I can ssh to the box from another machine using that port
[05:16] <Captainkrtek> I have a server, im trying to ssh from it to another server, doing that it times out. from my laptop it does not timeout ssh'ing to either box
[05:16] <Captainkrtek> using the same exact commands
[05:16] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, probably a NAT issue
[05:16] <bousselham> HI
[05:17] <solid_liq> Captainkrtek, you should ask in ##linux
[05:17] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, is this client not ssh'ing properly in the same 192.x.x.x network?
[05:17] <Captainkrtek> its not local
[05:17] <Captainkrtek> thanks solid_liq
[05:17] <solid_liq> np
[05:17] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, so it's probably ur NAT box not allowing that port forwarding in
[05:17] <Captainkrtek> ill see
[05:18] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, that's more complicating to fix
[05:18] <yagoo> Captainkrtek, ur ssh server needs to be on a fixed internal address
[05:18] <freedom> in my computer i have 2 os ubuntu 11.04 and linux mint 11.04 and linux mint is fabulous  is faster  and more easy linux mint is the future ubuntu is dead
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> freedom: mint is offtopic here
[05:23] <CeleronCE> I have a question
[05:23] <Darael> !ask | CeleronCE
[05:23] <CeleronCE> Why doesn't the CTRL X and Y work when saving?
[05:23] <Darael> CeleronCE: Um, what?  Cut and redo?  In what program would this be?
[05:24] <CeleronCE> nano
[05:24]  * solid_liq rolls his eyes
[05:24] <Darael> CeleronCE: Ah.  That makes a little more sense.  One moment.
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> CeleronCE: strange, works here
[05:26] <[THC]AcidRain> it appears that no matter what setting i do. it is forcing twinview
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> CeleronCE: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[05:26] <CeleronCE> Yeah, used to work for me but it suddenly stopped working.
[05:26] <Darael> CeleronCE: Perhaps because it doesn't make sense to quit while in the process of saving (they want you to cancel the save first, to make sure that's what you want), or to scroll the page (you should have checked before saving).
[05:27] <Darael> CeleronCE: I can only assume I have misunderstood.  ActionParsnip is known to be much more competent than me anyway.  Good luck.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Darael: really. wow :)
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> CeleronCE: does CTRL+O save the file ok?
[05:28] <CeleronCE> Let me try.
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> CeleronCE: http://linux.goeszen.com/nano-editor-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[05:29] <ScottR4> I have a very dumb question that is only marginally related to ubuntu, but I figure someone in here will know: When your computer is doing serious processing and makes that rattling noise that's common on most computers, what exactly is making that noise?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ScottR4: the hard drive usually
[05:30] <ScottR4> ActionParsnip: thanks. I thought as much, just wasn't sure why anything was getting written to it during some actions
[05:30] <ScottR4> ActionParsnip: you work with 'em so long and you never think to ask about the basic stuff ;)
[05:30] <Guest> is gnome working in ubuntu, or it still breaks the system up?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest: works fine here
[05:32] <lintux> guest: youtube you can search 11.04 with gnome 3
[05:32] <balaji_> if i install one app in a partition. can i use the same app from some other distro?
[05:33] <Guest> ActionParsnip: did you compile it or got it from a PPA?
[05:33] <mrk1> there is a file that i cannot delete on my computer because it is locked how can i delete it
[05:34] <balaji_> mrk1:check the permission
[05:34] <mrk1> balaji yea it says that nobody is the owner
[05:35] <mrk1> and so i have no permission
[05:35] <introuble> which is better fs. ext3 or ext4
[05:35] <introuble> ?
[05:35] <balaji_> mrk1: "sudo su" then try to delete the file
[05:36] <eubey> I can't seem to find the conf file for pure-ftpd. I've searched /etc/pure-ftpd.conf and its not there. I'm trying to find it to set the TLS ports so I can set them in my iptables as well. Any ideas?
[05:37] <mrk1> balaji i am not familiar with the cli what would the command be
[05:38] <balaji_> mrk1: where is the file that is to be deleted?
[05:38] <[THC]AcidRain> ok... so who all knew that every vizio tv has an auto screen adjust that trys to adjust to the video input but fails?
[05:38] <[THC]AcidRain> cause i did a manual adjust, and my screens are beautiful together <3
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest: GNOME is default in Ubuntu
[05:39] <em> eubey: says here it does not read any conf file -- http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README.Configuration-File
[05:39] <mrk1> home mohammed Downloads
[05:39] <Guest> ActionParsnip: I MEAN GNOME 3
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> eubey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureFTP
[05:39] <em> eubey: it says "Unlike many daemons, Pure-FTPd doesn't read any configuration file (but for
[05:39] <em> LDAP and SQL). Instead, it uses command-line options."
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest: you only said Gnome. Kill the caps too please
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest: I can't possibly GUESS what you mean, can I?
[05:40] <rww> !gnome3 | Guest
[05:40] <balaji_> open terminal. type "sudo su", you will be asked to enter password. then "cd /home/mohammed/Downloads" then "rm filename" (all commands should be entered without quotes)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest: it's not stable in anything natty or before. Gnome3 is default in Oneiric
[05:41] <rww> and it's not stable there either :3
[05:41] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip, I got it
[05:41] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip, Yess
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: got what?
[05:42] <mrk1> balaji thank you
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> rww: indeed ;)
[05:42] <mrk1> i am really a novice.. sorry
[05:42] <introuble> which is better fs. ext3 or ext4?
[05:42] <rww> introuble: depends what you're using it for. In general, ext4.
[05:43] <balaji_> mrk1: try to read some beginners guide :)
[05:43] <introuble> which is better fs. ext3 or ext4?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> introuble: in what respect?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> introuble: "better" is a wide area
[05:43] <mrk1> yup that is what i am doing on my other workstation
[05:44] <introuble> ActionParsnip stable. error free, secure
[05:44] <balaji_> mrk1:fine
[05:44] <introuble> which is better fs. ext3 or ext4? stable. error free, secure and other features?
[05:46] <benteknon> #furaffinity
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> introuble: both do security equally well. both are stable and both are definately free
[05:46] <introuble> ActionParsnip whats the difference
[05:47] <Darael> introuble: Well, ext3 has had longer to prove its stability.  In security terms I understand them to be equal.  I understand the error rates to be similarly low.  Ext4, however, has features.  It's the next version, after all, even if it's a "stopgap" on the way to btrfs.
[05:47] <HackNewton> hi
[05:48] <rww> introuble: ext4 is newer and faster.
[05:48] <[THC]AcidRain> why do some of my screensavers not work?
[05:48] <[THC]AcidRain> :/
[05:48] <[THC]AcidRain> i just installed the eternal screen saver, and it doesnt work either
[05:48] <fsdggs> how do i know which driver is currently being used for my graphics card?
[05:49] <introuble> Darael rww , ext3 has had longer to prove its stability.  What do you mean by this . and rww i heard there are some features that are not dealt in ext4 . like error checking. dont know. iam new
[05:49] <[THC]AcidRain> lol@satanic edition of ubuntu
[05:50] <DamnSoGood> hello, i'm on ubuntu10.10, my netbook is Acer AO ZG5 with a 8gb SSD, i notice that it is always freezing randomly, i think it is because of my hard drive.. what ca i do to improve the performance of my HD in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Darael> introuble: Error-checking most certainly is present in ext4.  Ext3, being the version before, has been around for longer and has thus had longer to prove itself stable.
[05:50] <rww> introuble: If you're new, then just use what Ubuntu uses by default: ext4. It's default for a reason.
[05:50] <Darael> introuble: Ext4 is generally better than ext3 for the majority of purposes.
[05:50] <introuble> Darael rww ok.
[05:51] <HackNewton> DamnSoGood, run hdd dignostic utility to view is there any problem
[05:51] <DamnSoGood> what is that app?
[05:51] <introuble> Darael rww thanks !
[05:52] <HackNewton> DamnSoGood, you can use Smartmontools
[05:52] <Darael> DamnSoGood: The SMART Data box, reached from the program "Disk Utility", has an option to start a drive self-check.  That's as good a place as any to start.  Alternatively, do what HackNewton suggests.
[05:52] <andrewh192> hey, i got a question for ya guys..
[05:52] <dli314159> Hello, everybody. I am trying to remove libusb++. However, apt-get remove libusb++ doesn't work since plus signs have special meaning to apt-get remove. Any advice? Thanks.
[05:52] <Darael> !ask | andrewh192
[05:53] <introuble> Darael rww i just LOVE linux. its just 2 problems. one all and majority of worlds apps are for windows. you can find any and you can find veriety. 2. its gives less command as compared to linux but windows is easy (click click thing). if i have to read and configure linux configs . i get head aches.
[05:53] <andrewh192> how do i copy remote files to another remote location via ftp?
[05:53] <DamnSoGood> ok thanks dudes :D
[05:54] <Darael> introuble: Apps are made for Windows in many cases, it's true.  You might want to think about searching for what you want to do, rather than the program you're used to using to do it.  That, in my experience, tends to get better results.
[05:54] <HackNewton> andrewh192, there are many remote computing utilities available Ubuntu also have one which comes with installation
[05:54] <pikkie> hi all
[05:54] <andrewh192> HackNewton: what would that be?
[05:55] <HackNewton> hi pikkie
[05:55] <pikkie> i am in need of solving a network related problem with ubuntu server and windows vista laptop
[05:55] <Darael> introuble: As for "click click thing", software installs are definitely easier in the Debian family, such as Ubuntu (because of the repository system) and the only time I've had to mess with config files was when playing with server software that assumes a certain level of willingness to do so.
[05:55] <HackNewton> andrewh192, there is remote desktop functionalitiey
[05:55] <Darael> !ask | pikkie
[05:56] <pikkie> sorry ubotto,, new here
[05:56] <andrewh192> HackNewton: ok.. I think that would be great, but i am actually tryin to just move files on a ftp server to another site.
[05:56] <introuble> Darael no . not just installs. configs. too.
[05:56] <HackNewton> andrewh192, use filezilla then
[05:56] <Darael> introuble: Hence my /other/ comment, about config files.
[05:56] <Zimm3r> Is there anyway to decrease the time the alt tab window takes to appear
[05:56] <HackNewton> andrewh192, its easy and fast
[05:56] <pikkie> i can create new folders on the server share but not rename it
[05:56] <andrewh192> will it allow me to use the source directory as a remote directory?
[05:57] <andrewh192> as well as the destination directory
[05:57] <HackNewton> andrewh192, yes
[05:57] <andrewh192> kewl
[05:57] <andrewh192> HackNewton: i am using barftp and it only shows my local files, and so that's why i ask if it was possible
[05:57] <andrewh192> bareftp rather
[05:58] <[THC]AcidRain> ha
[05:58] <[THC]AcidRain> it works fine
[05:58] <[THC]AcidRain> :D
[05:58] <introuble> Darael ok.
[05:58] <introuble> thx
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> introuble: i'd use ext4 it is the default fs in ubuntu
[05:58] <HackNewton> andrewh192, you can do it in filezilla but use server version
[05:58] <introuble> Darael i hope it supports ntfs and fat32 . read and writ.
[05:59] <introuble> Darael ubuntu i mean
[05:59] <andrewh192> ok
[05:59] <Darael> introuble: It has done for years, without issue.
[05:59] <Zimm3r> introuble: ya ubuntu supports ntfs and fat32 just used it today and yesterday a bunch
[05:59] <introuble> Darael ya. last time i used to use kubuntu. it had no ntfs write freature.
[05:59] <introuble> Zimm3r ok
[06:00] <Darael> introuble: That must have been some time ago; ntfs writeable has been around since at least Hardy, which was three years ago.
[06:00] <Darael> fsdggs: Pull up the Log File Viewer and look at Xorg.0.log - the info on what driver is in use is in there.
[06:00] <em> ext4 supports nano-second timestamps.
[06:00] <andrewh192> HackNewton: so that version... i went to Ubuntu Software Center and searched for it.
[06:00] <rww> It's been around since a while before Hardy, if memory serves.
[06:00] <andrewh192> HackNewton: there is just one "version" there. or should i download it from the website manually?
[06:00] <rww> I suspect user error ;)
[06:00] <Darael> I thought so, but was only certain for Hardy.
[06:00] <em> writing to ntfs was not depndable in Feisty
[06:00] <rghose> audacity 1.3.12-beta repeatedly getting hung when copying stereo data from 1 track to another in the same project in ubuntu 10.10... any help ?
[06:00] <HackNewton> andrewh192, download from website that will ease you
[06:00] <Zimm3r> I think like 4 years ago i had some problems with ntfs but not anymore
[06:01] <introuble> Darael ya. iam a old user. but i had gaps in my linux passion. go into busines. got married. never used computers since then
[06:01] <introuble> :)
[06:01] <andrewh192> HackNewton: ok, and there should be one marked as a server version correct?
[06:01] <HackNewton> andrewh192, yes you will see it
[06:01] <andrewh192> HackNewton: ok.. thanx
[06:01] <Darael> introuble: Well, good for you for coming back.  You will notice that an awful lot has moved on quite a lot since you last looked.
[06:02] <andrewh192> HackNewton: i found it.. says its only for windows
[06:02] <em> introuble: there's no more xorg.conf by default
[06:02] <introuble> Darael ok
[06:02] <em> introuble: and the audio stack is now more convoluted.
[06:03] <introuble> em aaahh.. ya. i remember . i usually messed with xorg.conf.   so what is the replacement
[06:03] <HackNewton> andrewh192, hmm i just cheacked ok i will find solution for you just hang over here
[06:03] <andrewh192> HackNewton: ok.. thanx
[06:03] <em> introuble: if you find someone who knows please tell me
[06:03] <Darael> introuble: You can place overrides in an xorg.conf that you create, but most of the config gets autogenerated on the fly for X these days.
[06:04] <em> Darael: how is it getting auto-generated?
[06:04] <introuble> Darael hm. ic. so what is the xorg.conf replaced by?/
[06:04] <em> HAL?
[06:04] <andrewh192> HackNewton: i would think there would be a way to do it via a terminal window
[06:04] <Darael> em: The X server does it on the fly.  I'm not familiar with the mechanism.
[06:04] <rww> introuble: Autodetection. If you need to use xorg.conf, make an xorg.conf and it'll read it.
[06:04] <andrewh192> HackNewton: it might not be the prettiest, but i would thnk there would be some command or something that might allow that to happen
[06:05] <introuble> rww ic.
[06:05] <introuble> em <rww> introuble: Autodetection. If you need to use xorg.conf, make an xorg.conf and it'll read it.
[06:05] <em> I think it was HAL but now HAL has also been replaced. I think xorg was replaced by something obscure and magical that few understand and then that obscure thing was replaced with something more mysterious yet.
[06:05] <HackNewton> andrewh192, may be better ask here
[06:05] <pikkie> HackNewon would you know why i cannot rename files on ubuntu server share?
[06:05] <rww> em: Xorg hasn't been replaced by anything.
[06:05] <Darael> em: xorg is still there.  AFAIK it will continue to be there until and unless we move to Wayland.
[06:05] <em> rww: it isn't there.
[06:05] <em> No it isnt there unless you make one.
[06:05] <rww> em: Are you talking about xorg.conf?
[06:05] <HackNewton> Hay guys anyone knows commands fors for transfering files over ftp server
[06:06] <em> yes
[06:06] <Darael> em: You may no longer have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that's because the X server autodetects config.  It still reads xorg.conf if it's present.
[06:06] <HackNewton> pikkie, can you tell your problem in detail please i was not attending
[06:06] <andrewh192> em: was wondering how that might work
[06:07] <em> Darael: between Hardy and Intrepid it changed. Even if you do make your own xorg.conf it no longer works the same way as it used to.
[06:07] <saliak> I'm using a shell script to call a program.  one of my arguments is a string (so ./foo -a "blah blah blah").  how would i include that in a shell script variable?  my specific issue is at http://pastebin.com/vbWNtWny  for some reason the first one doesn't work
[06:07] <pikkie> HackNewton i can create new folders on ubuntu server share but not rename them and i need to do that. only from one laptop in the office.
[06:07] <andrewh192> em: or what command that would be... because i am having trouble with uploading stuff to another site and its rather large, and i already have most of what i need on another server..
[06:07] <pikkie> it runs vista
[06:07] <introuble> rww Darael the install crashed. kubuntu
[06:07] <pikkie> on the laptop
[06:07] <introuble> ...
[06:07] <andrewh192> em: was wondering if there was a way i could get the two servers to connect to each other, me being the mid-point, and i could just transfer it that way..
[06:08] <HackNewton> pikkie, did you share ownership with other users ?
[06:08] <Darael> em: I've been using xorg.conf for several releases since Hardy on my desktop (NVidia binary drivers, doncha know) and I assure you, I haven't encountered any major changes to its function beyond less and less of it being necessary.
[06:08] <HackNewton> andrewh192, there is a command named ftp try to use it
[06:08] <pikkie> the share belongs to nobody:nogroup and everybody else can read write and execute in that share
[06:09] <Defectz> Hello, is this the correct channel for help with ubuntu Server?
[06:09] <rww> Defectz: Here or #ubuntu-server are fine.
[06:09] <Defectz> ok, thanks
[06:09] <em> Darael: with Hardy I was able to put in some settings in xorg.conf that made my logitech marble mouse rollerball mouse have the ability to scroll and then in intrepid, when you put the exact same thing into xorg.conf nothing happened.
[06:09] <HackNewton> pikkie, okay. can you please tell which command you are using to rename your file
[06:10] <Darael> em: So X was updated.  This happens, in software.  The fact that directives for one mouse changed their function does not imply, as you appear to be suggesting, that the entirety of xorg.conf changed the way it works.
[06:10] <HackNewton> andrewh192, seems like ftp command can be used for your requirement
[06:10] <pikkie> HackNewton, i am trying to do the renaming of the file from a Vista pc over the network. not on the server directly.
[06:11] <em> Darael: You have convinced me that you are correct.
[06:12] <andrewh192> HackNewton: ok, so i am looking at a website that goes over the commands and stuff, but was wondering if u could give me like a example of the command line that i would use
[06:12] <andrewh192> to connect to the first server
[06:12] <em> Nevertheless my Logitech Marble Mouse Rollerball was never fully functional ever again after that.
[06:14] <HackNewton> pikkie, yes there is problem you can not change the file . means you dont have write permission if you dont directly connect to server you have only readonly permission even if you have created it ! so you have to connect to server first to access it
[06:15] <Defectz> Hello all, so I have a question about Ubuntu server, I Downloaded ubuntu Server 64 bit v11.04 and i burned it onto a dvd-r disk to install on my other computer. So it says to put in the cd, restart your computer, and follow the instructions on my screen. I did this but there is no instructions only something saying Solinux 4.01, copyright ect. What do i do now?
[06:15] <em> Defectz: trololol
[06:16] <HackNewton> andrewh192, will i never used that command but will try to use it
[06:16] <pikkie> HackNewton, when i first connected to the server share i was asked for the passwd, and then ticked the save passwd block. Now it does not ask for the passwd although the share is accessible, and i cannot disconnect to re-enter the passwd. there is no option for that. how do i disconnect, it is not a mapped drive that i can do that. it appears under the network space
[06:16] <andrewh192> HackNewton: i sorta got it figured out
[06:16] <Defectz> can no one help me?
[06:16] <andrewh192> HackNewton: its going to take i think a little hit and miss to figure it out more
[06:17] <andrewh192> Defectz: i am willing to help ya, but i bet i prolly don't know what ur gonna want help with..
[06:17] <Wulf> Defectz: "solinux"?
[06:17] <rww> Wulf: probably isolinux
[06:17] <HackNewton> well if you want i can send you email about whole information regarding ftp command
[06:17] <Wulf> Defectz: make a screenshot (with your digicam)
[06:17] <Wulf> rww: hmm. I thought about syslinux
[06:17] <Defectz> Its one line
[06:18] <Defectz> on a screen
[06:18] <Defectz> similar to cmd prompt
[06:18] <rww> Wulf: or that. I forget which one Ubuntu ISOs use.
[06:19] <Wulf> Defectz: maybe something went wrong during install. Can you install again?
[06:19] <pikkie> does anybody else have a solution that i can try since HackNewton left
[06:20] <em> oh i thought this guy was making up a story to troll us
[06:20] <Defectz> wulf: should i just hold the power button and force the computer off? Any key i press doesnt do anything
[06:20] <Wulf> Defectz: yeah
[06:21] <bobweaver> Wulf, can you do a ctrl_alt_f2 then a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:22] <Wulf> bobweaver: no.
[06:23] <bobweaver> Wulf, ctrl+alt+f2 nothing ?
[06:23] <bobweaver> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:26] <Wulf> bobweaver: why should I do that?
[06:27] <bobweaver> if you are frozen up un-freeze you and drop you to the cli
[06:28] <bobweaver> wolf, if you are frozen up un-freeze you and drop you to the cli
[06:28] <Wulf> but nothing's frozen up here.
[06:28] <bobweaver> Wulf, I missread I am sorry
[06:28] <Wulf> :-)
[06:31] <bobweaver> ok so I mad a live dvd of my system but after install it brings me to grub and shows my old partition is there a way to stop this ?
[06:38] <Defectz> hey, im currently in the setup of ubuntu server and its asking me to select which network interface i want to use, i have a wireless usb adapter that it detects but it requires software to use, is it still ok to use that one?
[06:38] <Wulf> Defectz: do you also have wired?
[06:38] <Defectz> no
[06:39] <Wulf> then you'll have to use wireless I guess
[06:39] <Wulf> or you install everything from cdrom and add wireless later
[06:39] <Defectz> can i change to lan?
[06:39] <Defectz> wired
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Defectz: sure
[06:41] <Defectz> it failed to work
[06:41] <Defectz> should i just resort to the other one
[06:47] <sunshine1> wish ubuntu had a gorgeous 3d interface
[06:47] <sunshine1> unity is so boring
[06:48] <talntid> Unity is boring, I agree
[06:48] <Defectz> Hey, so im at a part in the installation were it wants me to select a partioning method, there is some guided methods and a manual, which guided one should i do?
[06:48] <sunshine1> i mean why do people try to simplify things
[06:48] <sunshine1> human beings are getting smarter
[06:48] <rww> I'm not sure that's true.
[06:48] <sunshine1> they think we are perplexed by gnome?
[06:49] <Defectz> partitioning*
[06:49] <sunshine1> at the cost of doability
[06:49] <rww> But anyways, #ubuntu is the technical support channel for Ubuntu. We use #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion, like this one ;)
[06:50] <Defectz> Could anyone help me out?
[06:50] <sunshine1> @Defectz: d u hav windows?
[06:50] <Defectz> yes
[06:50] <sunshine1> then is the ubuntu the 11.04 version
[06:51] <Defectz> yes 64 bit
[06:51] <sunshine1> so you have an option,install along with windows automatically,right?
[06:51] <sunshine1> or do u want a specific partition size
[06:52] <Defectz> well i dont see the option to install with windows
[06:52] <sunshine1> fine,lets do manually
[06:52] <rhin0> installing a kde application (with all the dependencies) such as ksnapshot won't give me any system overhead unless I actually run it?  -- kde applications install with a zillion dependencies
[06:52] <rhin0> anyone
[06:53] <sunshine1> u r having this chat on ur installing system,rt??
[06:53] <Defectz> no
[06:53] <Defectz> two seperate computers
[06:53] <sunshine1> so will you be able to do it alongside,coz i dont remember exactly wat the options were,i need u to tell me
[06:53] <rww> rhin0: depends on the dependencies, but generally correct
[06:54] <introuble> rww Darael my isntallation is stuck since 30mins at 19% wiping swap space for security . do i need to wory?
[06:54] <rww> introuble: no. wiping space takes a while.
[06:54] <rhin0> I just don't want to bloat my system rww --- generally correct and 'depends' isn't good enough I will seek another app rather than a kde one
[06:54]  * rww shrugs
[06:55] <introuble> rww its on 19% . 30mins..
[06:56] <HackNewton> hello
[06:56] <Defectz> there are 5 options, manual guided using entire disk, guided using entire disk and setup lvm , entire disk and setup encrypted lvm and guided using scs1 , partion #1 and something else
[06:56] <introuble> HackNewton hello there
[06:56] <rhin0> applicaitons/accessories/take screenshot does it anyway rww (avoiding kde)
[06:57] <introuble> rww the picture is not changing either
[06:57] <HackNewton> can anyone tell where is files located for login screen ?
[06:57] <introuble> rww how do i know its runing
[06:57] <rww> introuble: because your hard disk is doing things and making fun noises, presumably
[06:58] <introuble> rww i also see a graphical error at the blue background
[06:59] <introuble> rww ok . how much should i wait more
[06:59] <HackNewton> can anyone tell where are files located for login screen ?
[07:00] <geirha> HackNewton: The question is a bit vague. What do you need them for?
[07:00] <HackNewton> geirha, i need to tweak them
[07:00] <rzx237> how to change php max upload size setting on ubuntu? tryied on lighttpd and apache php.ini with no luck.
[07:01] <geirha> HackNewton: Ah, then you probably want to look in /etc/gdm/
[07:01] <HackNewton> rzx237, the php file upload size is not depend on os
[07:01] <Spartanii117> does anyone know where i can get some advances pulseaudio help?
[07:01] <rzx237> HackNewton: so?
[07:01] <HackNewton> rzx237, you can control max file upload in php.ini file
[07:02] <HackNewton> geirha, thanks
[07:02] <rzx237> I edit it to "upload_max_filesize = 128M"
[07:02] <introuble> my isntallation is stuck since 30mins at 19% wiping swap space for security . do i need to wory?
[07:02] <rzx237> HackNewton: but still cannot upload 200KB image.
[07:03] <HackNewton> rzx237, i dont think php support that much big size
[07:03] <HackNewton> rzx237, for more info on php files upload go to #php
[07:03] <rzx237> HackNewton: I see that from xampp windows default install :)
[07:03] <citricsquid> Just installed Ubuntu 11.04. I have a file cod_lnxded, I execute with "./cod_lnxded", for some reason it says: "-bash: ./cod_lnxded: No such file or directory". I can edit the file, it definitely exists. I have tried chmod 777 and chmod +x, any ideas why it won't find it? Thx. Paste of stat output http://paste.ubuntu.com/644599/
[07:03] <rzx237> thanks but
[07:04] <HackNewton> rzx237, i know but this is ubuntu only channel (BTW am active on php  too)
[07:04] <geirha> citricsquid: Did you install 64-bit ubuntu, and that binary is 32-bit?
[07:04] <citricsquid> geirha: it works fine on 64bit centos, so I don't think that could be it. I'll try and check.
[07:05] <geirha> citricsquid: run this:  file ./cod_lnxded /bin/bash
[07:05] <geirha> citricsquid: You likely need to install ia32-libs
[07:06] <citricsquid> "./cod_lnxded: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped"
[07:06] <citricsquid> geirha: okay, running now. Thank you :)
[07:06] <citricsquid> geirha: hurrah! It worked, thank you very much :-)
[07:07] <geirha> citricsquid: Great :)
[07:08] <introuble> come onn peaple..... answer me
[07:08] <introuble> anyone..?
[07:09] <HackNewton> introuble , whats your problem please ?
[07:10] <introuble> HackNewton my isntallation is stuck since 30mins at 19% wiping swap space for security . do i need to wory?
[07:10] <HackNewton> introuble, and you are installing ... ?
[07:11] <introuble> HackNewton yes
[07:11] <HackNewton> introuble,i mean  are you installing ubuntu ? or other application ?
[07:12] <introuble> HackNewton kubuntu
[07:12] <benonsoftware> Anyone know a good name for Ubuntu 18.04
[07:12] <Ileden> Hi! I'm experiencing a weird problem. My computer loses its network connection after random amount (~20min) of inactivity, and any user activity (even moving mouse) brings it back up. This is problematic because I'm trying to do a long network file transfer on it... Any ideas what might be causing this OR how to hack around the problem, by e.g. mimicking user behaviour with a script or something like that?
[07:13] <HackNewton> introuble, hmm .... try to wait for another 15 mins ... if it continue .. then its not so big reason to worry !
[07:14] <HackNewton> introuble, just abort installation ... DO NOT RESTART YOUR COMPUTER .... just abort it
[07:14] <introuble> HackNewton there is no abort button
[07:15] <kubanc> hellow! if i have my client computer turned off, and i would like to send out of office reply, i probably need to setup automatic reply on mail server?
[07:15] <HackNewton> introuble, there must be cancle button somewhere
[07:15] <introuble> HackNewton no there isnt
[07:16] <Trond--> Which simple videomaking program can I add a picture to and a mp3 file and save as avi?
[07:16] <HackNewton> introuble, then there only one option left wait for a time and use restart button on your computer and try to install again after some time
[07:17] <HackNewton> introuble, hope you have backed up your data
[07:17] <introuble> i have
[07:17] <introuble> i mean theres no dat a
[07:17] <HackNewton> introuble, then there is no reason to worry
[07:17] <HackNewton> :D
[07:18] <bhavesh> If I am making a linux shell script how can I give command to terminal? like $ echo "sudo update-grub2" or $ sudo update-grub2 ?
[07:18] <introuble> wastage of time is sometime more costly than wastage of data. and sometimes viceversa
[07:19] <HackNewton> introuble, yes but if you dont have other option you may have to waste both
[07:19] <Zimm3r> Is there anyway to decrease the time the alt tab window takes to appear
[07:19] <aksyahba> hi guys, quick question.. how to conference mode using webchat?
[07:20] <kubanc> hellow! if i have my client computer turned off, and i would like to send out of office reply, i probably need to setup automatic reply on mail server?
[07:20] <HackNewton> bhavesh, sudo update-grub2 after you made it executable
[07:20] <introuble> HackNewton yup
[07:20] <bhavesh> ok
[07:22] <jvgeli> kernel panic on Natty with AMD Fusion and ATI radeon HD 6310. anyone having the same issues?
[07:22] <HackNewton> kernel panic ?
[07:22] <sgo11> hi, I rsynced from my local partition to an external partition. both are ext4. Then I did "du -s" in both directories. my local directory shows 5493312. my external directory shows 5493264. they are not the same. does it mean there are some differences btw my original dir and backup? thanks.
[07:24] <jvgeli> HackNewton: let me rephrase. I am having lock ups with a blinking caps lock key.
[07:24] <Kaco> morning
[07:25] <HackNewton> afternoon Kaco
[07:25] <HackNewton> ah !
[07:25] <HackNewton> jvgeli, is this problem occurs consistanly ?
[07:26] <jvgeli> HackNewton: yes, regularlay. It couldbe the gflrx
[07:26] <jvgeli> HackNewton: AMD Fusion is relatively new, support could be buggy
[07:27] <HackNewton> jvgeli, i suggest you to use LST version
[07:28] <jvgeli> hacknew
[07:28] <jvgeli> HackNewton: used the opensource drivers but it is simply worse. fglrx makes my desktop usable
[07:29] <HackNewton> jvgeli, okay ATI have some problems with UBUNTU now a days may that stuck  you
[07:30] <bazhang> !away > Lomex_off
[07:30] <HackNewton> Bye gyes have   a nice Ubuntu time :D
[07:30] <HackNewton> guys*
[07:33] <tobiassjosten> Does anyone know how to remove the invisible 1px column from Unity? When I put my mouse there and try to scroll it doesn't work, like if Unity  eating the signal.
[07:40] <workflow> hi
[07:41] <o0o0> !away > o0o0
[07:41] <workflow> how to install this package http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 ?
[07:43] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install libavahi-compat-libdnssd1   workflow
[07:43] <workflow> bazhang, not work :(  E: Package libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 has no installation candidate
[07:44] <bazhang> workflow, what version of ubuntu
[07:44] <workflow> bazhang, ubuntu-10.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[07:45] <workflow> bazhang, it's name "lucid"
[07:45] <Wouter_> Hi all :)
[07:46] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/amd64/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1/download  workflow  make sure you have the correct repos enabled
[07:47] <workflow> bazhang how to know what repos must be enabled?
[07:48] <bazhang> workflow, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # from in front of the security updates repo, then save, update sources.list and try again
[07:48] <LegendCEO> Anyone here know if the current ubuntu kernel supports the triple core AMD phenom processor?
[07:49] <workflow> bazhang, in my case /etc/apt/sources.list just empty, where to get this list?
[07:50] <Wouter_> I don't really know what the correct procedure here is, so i hope i wont offend anyone with this: I was wondering if anyone could help me with a ubuntu issue, i'm fairly capable at linux but this has me bogling a little bit. I have a Nvidia Mediashield Raid array in my Asrock ION mobo, been using it with 2 x 2TB in mirror raid. I accidentally killed one of the drives with an failed OpenElec instalation (wanted to try it) and now my ra
[07:50] <FishFace> LegendCEO: How current? I installed 10.10 in January and upgraded to 11.04 after that.
[07:50] <Wouter_> When i set my raid array to 'Rebuild' it said that i should boot in to an OS capable of rebuilding, i thought for sure that ubuntu would be fine with it. But now when it boots it goes directly to a busy box , and the recovery console show's that it cant find /dev/randomsymbolsattatchedtomyraidarray.
[07:50] <Wouter_> Any idea how i can rebuild my raid ?
[07:51] <ikonia> Wouter_: fakeraid, you're just onto a downer from the start
[07:51] <LegendCEO> FishFace.  I haven't installed one yet.  Wanted to be sure first.  I'll be downloading the 11.04 x64 build.
[07:51] <neo10101> hi!
[07:51] <FishFace> LegendCEO: Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8250e Triple-Core Processor,  MMX,  3DNow (3 CPUs), ~1.9GHz
[07:51] <Wouter_> @ikonia thanks :)
[07:51] <ikonia> Wouter_: has the array ever worked wth Linux
[07:51] <Wouter_> @ikonia yes, perfectly
[07:51] <ikonia> Wouter_: which versions of Linux
[07:52] <Wouter_> @ikonia 11.04
[07:52] <LegendCEO> And it is using all cores?  Works for me!
[07:52] <Wouter_> @ikonia 64bit
[07:52] <ikonia> Wouter_: ok - so what happened to stop it working
[07:52] <Ileden> Wouter_: btw that's is the correct procedure for asking a question here - just asking it.
[07:52] <FishFace> LegendCEO: Yep :)
[07:52] <LegendCEO> Beautiful!  I
[07:52] <LegendCEO> 'll head over and get it.  Thanks!
[07:52] <FishFace> No prob
[07:53] <LegendCEO> You da man!  (or woman, as the case may be)
[07:53] <FishFace> LOL
[07:53] <FishFace> Mang
[07:53] <Wouter_> @ikonia I tried installing a different linux distribution together with ubuntu and it killed one of the drives, totally reformatted, installer was still in beta apparently
[07:53] <LegendCEO> Never been on irc before.  This is interesting.
[07:53] <ikonia> Wouter_: ok, so your raid array will have been corrupted on both mirrors
[07:53] <Wouter_> @ikonia I was expecting there to be a next option "select your partition" but no.. it just started formatting the first drive, awsome -.-
[07:54] <LegendCEO> Ok, I'm off to go download.  thanks for the help!
[07:54] <ikonia> Wouter_: your raid array data has been ruined then
[07:54] <Wouter_> @ikonia i booted into a linux distro and it said one of the drives is still full of data tho
[07:54] <Wouter_> @ikonia live cd
[07:55] <ikonia> Wouter_: I'm sure it is, but your meta data will have been destroyed
[07:55] <ikonia> Wouter_: (or changed to represent the ruined data to be more exact)
[07:55] <Wouter_> @ikonia aha, so reformat and start over?
[07:55] <ikonia> Wouter_: pretty much, I would strongly advise you against using fake raid, but that is your decision
[07:56] <Wouter_> @ikonia i'm using the Nvidia bios raid, is that considered fakeraid?
[07:56] <ikonia> Wouter_: yes
[07:56] <Wouter_> @ikonia i was thinking of installing windows 7 onto an usb drive and installing the nvraid tool to rebuild the raid array, but that seems prity pointless now then ?
[07:57] <aum> is there any php room
[07:57] <csdserver> what would be the format of a bash script that touch's a file, then saves sequential commands to a file?
[07:57] <ikonia> Wouter_: in my opinion, yes, but your of course welcome to try it
[07:57] <ikonia> aum: ##php
[07:57] <ikonia> csdserver: try in ##bash for scripting help
[07:57] <ikonia> csdserver: but basically it would be just that, touch a file then redirect subsiquent commands to that file
[07:58] <Wouter_> @ikonia hm bah
[07:58] <ikonia> csdserver: look at the commands "script" and "tee"
[07:58] <aum> thank you
[07:58] <llutz_> csdserver: or simply use "script"
[07:58] <llutz_> oops, to slow
[07:58] <csdserver> thank you =)
[07:58] <Wouter_> @ikonia fakeraid seems quite pointless, i got the second drive to avoid these things :P
[07:58] <ikonia> Wouter_: fully agree
[07:59] <Wouter_> @ikonia so; get a decent raid controller.
[07:59] <bluelily> hello
[07:59] <Wouter_> @ikonia or use the both drives seperate and backup them regularely
[07:59] <aum> there is no one in ##php and ##bash
[07:59] <workflow> hey someone show u /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:59] <graingert> ikonia, get a IBM Storwise v7000
[07:59] <ikonia> Wouter_: if you're just using Linux you could investigate software raid whic his excellent
[07:59] <ikonia> aum: yes there is
[07:59] <ikonia> Wouter_: or, of course you can buy a true hardware raid card
[08:00] <sgo11> hi, if both directories have the exact same contents and in the same type of partition, by using du -s in the same OS (same PC, run in same time). Will the results of du in the two dir be difference? is this possible?
[08:00] <Wouter_> @ikonia: software raid sounds good
[08:00] <ikonia> Wouter_: it's excellent if you're just using linux
[08:01] <ikonia> sgo11: then can differ slightly
[08:01] <Wouter_> @ikonia Only linux on that machine, mediacentre.
[08:01] <sgo11> ikonia, yeah, that is what I got. one is 5493312. and another one is 5493264. why?
[08:01] <ikonia> Wouter_: software raid will be a really good option for you
[08:02] <Wouter_> @ikonia thank you for all the help, i'll find some how-to on that :)
[08:02] <ikonia> sgo11: depends where the files are positioned in terms of blocks on the disk, there can be a very slight difference
[08:02] <sgo11> ikonia, basically, I used rsync to backup my directory. the results show different size. I am just afraid if I miss anything.
[08:03] <sgo11> ikonia, one is in my local harddrive. another one is in external harddrive connected through usb. both are ext4.
[08:03] <ikonia> sgo11: so the two directories are 1.) source 2.) rsync - not two identical copies, but an rsync copy
[08:03] <Ileden> Hi! I'm trying to do a long SMB to SMB network transfer on a computer running xubuntu, but I'm experiencing a VERY weird problem. My computer loses its network connection after random amount (~20min) of inactivity, and any user activity (even moving mouse) brings it instantly back up. Any ideas what might be causing this OR how to hack around the problem? (Mimicking user behaviour with xdotool didn't seem to work.)
[08:03] <ikonia> sgo11: are both hard disks using the same sector and block size ?
[08:03] <sgo11> ikonia, i have no ideas. how to check? I created them with ubuntu parition tools.
[08:03] <Ileden> Aslo, there doesn't seem to be any BIOS option related to this.
[08:03] <Wouter_> @ikonia; small question, any idea how i could combine that with an XBMC live build ? Install the xbmc live on one drive and install the software raid later, let the bios just see it as 2 drives?
[08:04] <ikonia> Wouter_: hang on - is this for ubuntu ?
[08:04] <sgo11> ikonia, one is created during ubuntu installation. another one is created by gparted. I didn't change any options.
[08:04] <ikonia> sgo11: quick answer, do a "du -h" on both directories are they the same
[08:04] <Wouter_> @ikonia yes
[08:05] <ikonia> Wouter_: Wouter_ then why are you talking about xmbc live which is it's own OS
[08:05] <sgo11> ikonia, yeah. du -sh will show 5.3G. they are only slightly different.
[08:05] <Wouter_> @ikonia, i'm not using the xbmc build but a build based on ubuntu :)
[08:06] <Wouter_> @ikonia from xbmcfreak.nl
[08:06] <zonema> hi all.. anyone who can tell me how to change the color in konsole "jacob@desktop:~/map" and not the output of konsole?
[08:06] <ikonia> Wouter_: ok - so it's not actually ubuntu, it's it's own build based on ubuntu
[08:07] <tk`> can someone help me setup kdump on ubuntu
[08:07] <Wouter_> @ikonia kind of ubuntu without the windowmanager to keep it lightweight (just an 1.6 atom with vdpau)
[08:07] <ikonia> sgo11: how slightly in du -hs
[08:07] <ikonia> Wouter_: I suggest you contact them for support then as I don't support peoples custom ubuntu distros
[08:07] <iceroot> what is the common way to encrypt a raid1 (md0). encrypting sda1 and sdb1 and then build the raid? or build md0 and then encrypt md0? what is better for performance and when a disc is failing? is encrypting md0 the better way?
[08:07] <tk`> i have compiled the kernel with required config. some reason kdump doesnt start on panic
[08:07] <ikonia> iceroot: the encyption should be done on the filesystem - not the device
[08:08] <ikonia> tk`: we don't support custom kernels
[08:08] <sgo11> ikonia, I mean du -sh will show the same size. but du -s will show slightly different result as what I posted.
[08:08] <tk`> i meant i hv to enable kexec etc for kdump
[08:08] <ikonia> sgo11: then I'd be content it works
[08:08] <r_avalon> zonema: best i can tell you is to go to edit>preferences>colors and just start testing which color goes where
[08:08] <Wouter_> @ikonia seems fair, but i'll try it in ubuntu first :)
[08:08] <ikonia> tk`: we don't support custom kernels
[08:08] <iceroot> ikonia: so you mean md0?
[08:08] <ikonia> iceroot: yes
[08:08] <Wouter_> @ikonia anyway thanks =)
[08:08] <ikonia> iceroot: you can do it on devices, but on my experience that is a bad idea
[08:08] <iceroot> ikonia: so mdadm is syncing the crypted fs to both devices
[08:09] <tk`> so u mean cant talk about it here?
[08:09] <zonema> r_avalon: okay, i will try that way
[08:09] <ikonia> iceroot: well, no, as if you're "using it" it's unencypted
[08:09] <ikonia> iceroot: it's only encypted when you're not using it, so if someone tried to use it without the encyption key it would be garbage
[08:09] <sgo11> ikonia, thanks. but why are the sizes different? low level stuff? :)
[08:09] <ikonia> sgo11: yes, as I suggest slightly different block sizes, head sizes etc etc.
[08:10] <ikonia> sgo11: it's quite unusual these days but can happen
[08:10] <tk`> is there an ubuntu kernel irc channel?
[08:10] <iceroot> ikonia: ok, so in the first step i will build my sw-raid1 and after then i will encrypt md0. thank you
[08:10] <sgo11> ikonia, ok. sure. thanks.
[08:11] <ikonia> iceroot: in my opinion, I think that's a good config
[08:11] <whowantstolivefo> hi people, is there anyone knows how to install oracle jinitiator to ubuntu ? for firefox i need this plugin and i cant display pages where i want to use... please help
[08:11] <iceroot> ikonia: i hope so. its an intel atom with 2 external usb drives which will be the raid1. i hope the performance will be ok on that setup
[08:12] <ikonia> whowantstolivefo: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B12166_01/web/B10470_01/appa.htm
[08:12] <ikonia> iceroot: usb + raid mirror = bottleneck
[08:12] <iceroot> ikonia: i would be happy about 20MByte/s (with no raid/encrypt its about 33MByte/s)
[08:12] <iceroot> ikonia: yes
[08:12] <ikonia> iceroot: I'm sure you'll get acceptale throughput though
[08:12] <ikonia> acceptable
[08:13] <iceroot> ikonia: but hardware-raid is to expensive and (e)sata is not possible on that board
[08:13] <reachingperfecti> i would like to confirm that in ubuntu 11.10 the desktop envornment will be gnome3 or will it officially support gnome3
[08:13] <whowantstolivefo> ikonia:  supported configurations A.<IP_ADDRESS> Windows 98, NT, 2000, XP: <<< so i cant use this page in linux ?
[08:13] <ikonia> whowantstolivefo: ask Oracle, it's their product
[08:14] <ikonia> whowantstolivefo: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B12166_01/web/B10470_01/basics.htm#1010909
[08:15] <whowantstolivefo> ikonia:  thanks
[08:15] <reachingperfecti> i would like to confirm that in ubuntu 11.10 the desktop envornment will be gnome3 or will it officially support gnome3
[08:15] <ikonia> reachingperfecti: try in #ubuntu+1 and check the topic
[08:35] <defswork> can you tell do-release-upgrade to upgrade to kalmic (from jaunty) and not try to go to lucid (which isn't supported)
[08:36] <csdserver> hmm is there something i can do to edit window title bar displaying and desktop layout? i don't like the stuff on the side like that.
[08:40] <introuble> is www.w3schools.com authenticated and helpful for learning any thing like php ? if yes. why http://w3fools.com/ exists ?
[08:40] <dyd> ubuntu keep saying "no space left on device"
[08:41] <csdserver> what does gparted say about it?
[08:41] <Sunny_AK> hello evryone!
[08:41] <csdserver> last ? @ dyd
[08:42] <dyd> let me say a bit of story
[08:42] <dyd> i had ubuntu installed with wubi on a 40gb hd
[08:42] <dyd> soon hd became too small, so i used dd to make a copy on a 160 gb hd
[08:43] <dyd> then i resized it to use all 160 gb
[08:43] <creek> csdserver : when you start your machine, the first screen will be your user name. Click on this. The next screen will be for you to enter your password. At the bottom of the screen you will see your options. Click on Ubuntu and your choices will be displayed. Click on Ubuntu class, and then enter your password and your desktop should be as you like.
[08:43] <dyd> but something's wrong, it acts like if it's empty
[08:43] <dyd> cdserver: that's the story :)
[08:44] <dyd> csdserver: that's the story
[08:44] <xiuzi> so cool
[08:45] <dyd> csdserver: it acts like if it's full*
[08:47] <phax> which service on 10.0.4 distro runs pdftotext and what is it trying to do (at startup)
[08:47] <csdserver> where and when are you getting the messages? on boot? does the disk spin and bios pick up?
[08:47] <csdserver> dyd
[08:47] <Kaco> morning
[08:48] <csdserver> (thanks creek)
[08:48] <dyd> csdserver: when i save files on desktop for example, or when i open opera it says it can't save bookmarks, thinks like that
[08:48] <dyd> *things like that
[08:48] <dyd> csdserver: now it worked, but it's random
[08:49] <dyd> csdserver: btw sometimes it says that disk space is running low
[08:49] <dyd> gparted looks fine
[08:49] <llutz_> dyd: "df -h /"
[08:49] <dyd> use 100% :(
[08:50] <selami_yakalayr> hello!
[08:50] <dyd> llutz_: /dev/loop0             19G   19G 1000K 100% /
[08:52] <selami_yakalayr> i write a one line bash (script) to start chromium as different user agent. but script is not working. the script is :   chromium-browser --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0)" can someone help me plase ?
[08:52] <gob_bluth> hi, for ubuntu 10.04 LTS, how do i set the domiainname? domainname returns (none) and hostname --fqdn doesn't give a dns either? is it /etc/domainname ?
[08:54] <plouffe> quick question: I downloaded sumatra pdf reader and tried to run using "Wine Program Loader", and it warns me that the file is not marked as executable. Should that bother me at all, and should Ubuntu even display that message?
[08:54] <iceroot> gob_bluth: /etc/hosts
[08:54] <iceroot> !host | gob_bluth
[08:55] <iceroot> !hosts | gob_bluth
[08:55] <gob_bluth> iceroot it's there
[08:55] <iceroot> gob_bluth: also /etc/hostname
[08:55] <gob_bluth> <IP_ADDRESS> puppet puppet.mydom.local
[08:55] <gob_bluth>  /etc/hostname is 'puppet'
[08:55] <iceroot> !hostname | gob_bluth
[08:55] <plouffe> it says it may be dangerous to run that file because it has no executable bit, really?
[08:56] <eraggo> plouffe: you need to set runnable flag for the file to run it. chmod u+x filename
[08:57] <plouffe> eraggo, that makes it less dangerous? It's run by wine anyway
[08:57] <eraggo> did it run ok without setting runnable bit?
[08:57] <csdserver> dyd why is it running in loop0? net storage?
[08:58] <plouffe> I changed the bit
[08:58] <plouffe> no it didn't run without
[08:58] <dyd> csdserver: i have no idea
[08:59] <eraggo> plouffe: afaik wine requires each software to be runnable :/
[08:59] <dyd> csdserver: i don't even know what is loop0
[08:59] <dyd> csdserver: now i've used  rm -rf * and it cleared about 50%
[08:59] <llutz_> csdserver: using loopX seems to be the way wubi works
[09:00] <dyd> csdserver: how can i make that thing bigger?
[09:00] <introuble> my kubuntu isntallation is stuck since 30mins at 19% wiping swap space for security . and if it goes to 23% it gives an installer crash.
[09:00] <dyd> csdserver: oh shit. it removed all my files on desktop...
[09:01] <csdserver> o.O
[09:01] <dyd> csdserver: i have nothing on my desktop. jesus
[09:01] <eraggo> dyd: where did you runned rm -rf *
[09:02] <csdserver> well
[09:02] <csdserver> now would be time for a fresh install
[09:02] <dyd> eraggo: on my console
[09:02] <llutz_> and no wubi this time
[09:02] <introuble> csdserver done that many times
[09:02] <eraggo> dyd: home dir?
[09:02] <dyd> eraggo: totally erased
[09:02] <eraggo> why?:D
[09:03] <dyd> eraggo: have no idea, i just typed  rm -rf *
[09:03] <llutz_> dyd: what did you expect "rm -rf *" to do?
[09:03] <dyd> llutz_ was reading here: http://forums.cpanel.net/f189/dev-loop0-tmp-100-full-154501.html
[09:03] <ikonia> dyd: are you using ubuntu ?
[09:03] <dyd> You can remove the files alternatively whilst you manage a mount:
[09:03] <dyd>  rm -rf *
[09:03] <dyd>  That should remove everything in the TMP file, you can always manage a CRONTAB -E command to delete the files of this directory, the TMP will eventually fill up and this is a possible solution to size increase.
[09:04] <dyd> oh yea i got it
[09:04] <dyd> i'm a fucking retard
[09:04] <dyd> i was in home and removed all from there
[09:04] <eraggo> dyd: you didnt cd to it?
[09:04] <dyd> and i had to move in tmp directory before doing that command
[09:04] <llutz_> learning the hard way
[09:04] <dyd> so lol
[09:04] <dyd> well, at least my loop0 now it's half empty
[09:04] <ikonia> dyd: control the language
[09:05] <Calinou> lol? for that?
[09:05] <new_ubuntu_user> Hi! Can some one help me with nvidia proprietary drivers? I do 'apt-get install nvidia-current', after reboot loaded nouveau :( nvidia-detector say 'None'
[09:05] <dyd> ikonia: ok
[09:05] <ikonia> dyd: are you using ubuntu yes/no ?
[09:05] <afsffa> on ubuntu 11.04 with unity, my dual monitor setting is not staying permanent after reboot. I am using propietary ati fglrx drivers and set the dual monitor setup in ati catalyst gui
[09:05] <dyd> ikonia: yes
[09:05] <ikonia> dyd: why are you looking at cpannel forums then ? as cpannel is not built for ubuntu
[09:05] <new_ubuntu_user> my ubuntu is 10.04
[09:06] <dyd> ikonia: i was on google looking for a solution on that loop0 thing
[09:06] <dyd> thank god i have the other hd with my datas on it
[09:06] <dyd> i moved on new hd just a couple of days ago
[09:06] <csdserver> it wasn't a problem i was just asking for clarification on what it was doing =)
[09:08] <new_ubuntu_user> huh
[09:08] <NetBookuser> hi, guys
[09:08] <NetBookuser> I have a problem with the installation of airmon-ng, can anyone help me?
[09:09] <introuble> how to know which is my swap partitions and how to format i t
[09:10] <afsffa> how to make my ati catalyst dual screen settings permanent ? my 2nd monitor goes always back to "mirrored" mode after reboot
[09:10] <llutz_> introuble: sudo blkid | grep swap        then "sudo mkswap /dev/sdXY"
[09:11] <introuble> llutz i dont want to make swap. i want to format it
[09:11] <llutz_> introuble: define "format"
[09:11] <introuble> llutz actually in kubuntu installation. data wiping of swap is giving error.
[09:11] <csdserver> new_ubuntu_user,  in 10.04 try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[09:12] <introuble> llutz the same meaning that of format when you check format button while installing kubuntu.
[09:12] <introuble> llutz FORMAT... dont you know
[09:12] <llutz_> introuble: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXY bs=4k
[09:13] <new_ubuntu_user> csdserver: thank you
[09:13] <introuble> llutz iam using lived cd and i want to format swap of hd.  sudo blkid | grep swap will give different results i think. somehting /dev/ramzswap0
[09:14] <llutz_> introuble: what does that command actually give you?
[09:15] <introuble> llutz ok. tell me how to format /dev/sda6 and make it swap
[09:15] <wildcard-> hey all, i have an ubuntu test system in vmware but i gave it little too less space i noticed, now i enlarged the hdd in vmware and want to extend the partiotion with gparted. but i cant extend it since the swap is at the end of the partition. will it cause problems when i delete the extendet swap partiotion, then resize the root and add the swap again at the end ?
[09:15] <llutz_> introuble: sudo blkid | grep swap        then "sudo mkswap /dev/sdXY"
[09:16] <introuble> llutz will that formate it too?
[09:16] <llutz_> introuble: "sudo mkswap /dev/sda6" in your case. btw: you don't "format" anything since ages, you might create filesystems or a swap-signature in this case
[09:18] <introuble> llutz why do you think iam getting errors at 23% of wiping swap data. repeatedly
[09:19] <llutz_> introuble: diskerror? no idea
[09:19] <skarufue> wildcard-: just make a swap file for the time when you have to delete you swap
[09:19] <introuble> llutz hmm. what can i do to correct disk erors
[09:20] <llutz_> introuble: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda6 bs=4k            if you are sure, /dev/sda6 it the correct drive.
[09:21] <skarufue> wildcard-: you need to follow a-d of this guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/. and then when you are done just swapoff swapfile and deletes it
[09:21] <introuble> llutz what will it do ?
[09:22] <llutz_> introuble: overwrite that with zeros
[09:22] <introuble> Pici u there?
[09:23] <wildcard-> skarufue, im using gparted live cd, do i need to do this anyway ?
[09:23] <introuble> llutz .
[09:25] <skarufue> wildcard-: no then you can just resize. but you will need to change the fstab in your installed system to point to the new swap
[09:25] <skarufue> wildcard-: for that you just mount your / drive into your livecd and then you want to edit /etc/fstab
[09:28] <skarufue> wildcard-: then you look for a line like this: UUID=d9942c12-e674-4fa7-ba54-8d71ed702b2c none            swap    sw              0       0. and just replace the UUID=rtgseftgs part with the  path to your new swap partition
[09:28] <stetho> Hi - Anyone know where I can get support on ircd-hybrid (installed on Ubuntu)? I have installed it and it seems to work fine - with one exception. Even with one room and one user trying to get a room list results in "server load too heavy" message. /list works fine
[09:29] <skarufue> wildcard-: oh beware thoug you actually want to edid /wherever/root/is/mounted/etc/fstab
[09:29] <omegaphi> hi folks please help! When I start my ubuntu I am getting the grub prompt only? I am on a dual boot machine, What do I do? Please help :(
[09:31] <skarufue> omegaphi: well. you will basically need to tell grub on which drive your kernel is and what initrd image to use
[09:32] <omegaphi> skarufue : How do I find it out?
[09:32] <omegaphi> skarufue : Earlier everything was perfect, don't know what cause this grub thing :(
[09:32] <omegaphi> caused*
[09:33] <skarufue> omegaphi: likely you either reinstalled windows or updated ubuntu
[09:33] <omegaphi> No, I did nothing like that, as far as I remember
[09:34] <omegaphi> but anyway, is there any way to restore?
[09:34] <skarufue> omegaphi: doesnt really matter though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:34] <skarufue> omegaphi: the livecd way is probably easiest
[09:34] <omegaphi> skarufue : My CD drive doesn't work :(
[09:35] <skarufue> omegaphi: well no worries
[09:35] <skarufue> omegaphi: did you install your ubuntu from the windows installer?
[09:35] <wildcard-> skarufue, ok thx, i will have a try, i created a clone of the machine so nothing can go wrong hehe
[09:35] <omegaphi> skarufue : I installed via WUBI
[09:36] <skarufue> omegaphi well that complicates shit
[09:36] <omegaphi> oh :(
[09:36] <affafs> hey. how can I open up the system settings gui or the login screen gui from an empty X session. I went to login settings to change logiin type as "user defined" and now I'm logging in to empty X with no unity or any bars to operate with. I need to get to the login gui to change the setting to ubuntu
[09:37] <llutz_> affafs: alt-sysrq-k
[09:37] <tanyouliang> oh,my god
[09:37] <omegaphi> skarufue : Currently I have a ubuntu 10 installed as main OS, over it I have windows 7 and over windows 7 I have ubuntu 11(wubi)
[09:37] <jrib> affafs: just renaming ~/.dmrc should be enough
[09:38] <jrib> affafs: or just change it back at the login screen
[09:38] <skarufue> omegaphi: so which grub doesnt work anymoer?
[09:38] <omegaphi> skarufue : the ubuntu 11 one
[09:39] <skarufue> omegaphi: give this a try: http://www.omaregan.com/?p=608
[09:43] <omegaphi> skarufue :trying this: Restarting my system brb
[09:46] <cjs> What's the recommended command-line tool for encoding MP3 files?
[09:47] <workflow> cjs may be ffmpeg
[09:47] <llutz_> cjs: lame
[09:49] <tanyouliang> It's very strong
[09:49] <cjs> Hm. I think I'll go with ffmpeg, since eventually I'll need that for other stuff, too.
[09:49] <Wally> iTunes
[09:49] <Wally> Wait.. nvm
[09:51] <omegaphi> skarufue : that didn't help :'(
[09:54] <geraud_> hi
[09:54] <geraud_> when I put this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi=off splash" in the file /etc/deflaut /grub my wireless doesn't work anymore
[09:54] <spoek> Hi guys! im fairly new to ubuntu, and have encountered a problem. googling did not help me out, even though many ppl have fixed this problem before me. I connect to a windows computer on my network via places > connect to server.. > windows share > and then the ip
[09:54] <geraud_> I Need this line to fix problem of black screen/brightness
[09:55] <spoek> i get the shared folders up, but when i try to enter any folder i get "Failed to mount Windows share"
[09:55] <geraud_> someone can help me?
[09:55] <spoek> anyone who can help? would be much appretiated.
[09:57] <wildcard-> skarufue, how exatley do i need to replace the UUID= bypath ?
[09:59] <tanyouliang> ls
[10:03] <wildcard-> skarufue, so i replace "uuid=1232526124616" simply by "uuid=/dev/sda1" for example ?
[10:06] <Starman83> I recently noticed that USB media which I plug into my ubuntu system will not get mounted automatically and I think it all comes down to a dbus problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/644686/
[10:06] <Starman83> Any ideas?
[10:06] <Starman83> This happens if I try to stop and start dbus
[10:11] <dyd> guys, i was trying a new fresh installation of ubuntu but it says no root file system is defined...
[10:12] <karthick87> I am not able to join my ubuntu machine to windows domain.Can anyone help?
[10:13] <introuble> in what programing languages. the software developer retains the source coda and customer cannot access it to modify the applications. and in what languages it is possible to make the source code from an compiled application.            for those 2 questions i think php is not one of them. you give the application that means you give the code.   what are others?
[10:13] <UbuntuNew> You cant do what :P?
[10:14] <UbuntuNew> Hello to everyone :).I am curently installing ubuntu and it has stucked at copying files... any help can i take any actions to solve that?
[10:15] <Starman83> UbuntuNew: Try the "check disk" option in the boot menu, see if it gives any errors
[10:15] <UbuntuNew> Hes but am i supposed to close the installation?
[10:16] <UbuntuNew> and if yes HOW ?
[10:16] <Starman83> UbuntuNew: well how long have you been waiting for it to complete?
[10:16] <pacnumber1> i was stuck in copying once and found out that my network was wrongly configured (bad dhcp)
[10:17] <UbuntuNew> 1hour+ and hard disk activity is almost 0
[10:17] <pacnumber1> ctrl+alt+f1 should give you a command prompt
[10:17] <UbuntuNew> hard disk activity stoped after copying files progress bar was filled
[10:18] <Laurenceb> i, i want to install qtcreator >4.7 on lucid
[10:18] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[10:18] <introuble>  what languages can be reverse engineared?
[10:18] <Starman83> UbuntuNew: Do you have any important data on that machine?
[10:19] <nettezzaumana> hi there
[10:19] <nettezzaumana> is anyone using Vuze/azureus ? i can't find there must-to-have feature: `stop once download finished'
[10:19] <nettezzaumana> is it there?
[10:21] <LM> enable x11 in edubuntu?
[10:21] <Fudge> can android be ran in ubuntu
[10:22] <nettezzaumana> Fudge: http://www.usethefuckinggoogle.com/?cx=partner-pub-7949889933715117%3A7178591449&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=run+android+in+ubuntu#1088
[10:23] <popey> nettezzaumana: that's not appropriate for this channel
[10:23] <cjs> Do I need any sort of separate codecs package for ffmpeg? I'm getting a "no code found" error when I try to convert flac to MP3: http://pastebin.com/3y83GWvR
[10:25] <popey> cjs: install libmp3lame
[10:27] <cjs> There's no package specifically with that name; I do have libmp3lame0.
[10:28] <popey> cjs: thats the one
[10:28] <omegaphi> hi, can I have ubuntu live CD in USB drive? My CD drive doesn't work :(
[10:28] <popey> !usb omegaphi
[10:28] <cjs> Yup, that's already installed.
[10:28] <popey> !usb | omegaphi
[10:29] <omegaphi> popey , I don't want to install ubuntu, I want to save my files from a corrupted installation of ubuntu
[10:29] <popey> omegaphi: see the second link
[10:29] <popey> omegaphi: you can use tools like unetbootin to make a bootable usb stick
[10:29] <omegaphi> popey , ok , so would it work like a ubuntu live cd?
[10:30] <popey> yes omegaphi
[10:31] <spacebug-> omegaphi: or just:          dd if=/location/to/ubuntu-cd.iso of=/dev/xxx bs=1M         (where xxx= your usbstick)
[10:32] <Fudge> sdk does
[10:34] <Shikhin> Err!
[10:34] <Shikhin> I use Wubi, and now, suddenly root.disk is missing.
[10:34] <Shikhin> And it isn't even present in found.000
[10:34] <Shikhin> Please help.
[10:35] <Shikhin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11049875#post11049875
[10:37] <FRIED_BRAIN> Hello! I need some hellp here. I'm trying to install ubuntu server 11.04 on a HP Proliant  winth 3 HD on RAID 0. The grub always fails to install maybe beacause de RAID 0. What can I do to solve this problem? Any idea?
[10:41] <FRIED_BRAIN> HELLO! NEED HELP HERE. I  AM INSTALLING Ubuntu Server 11.04 on an HP ProLiant AND GRUB FAILURE IS ALWAYS HAPENNING, PROBABLY BECAUSE THE PROLIANT 3 disks in RAID 0, any ideas?
[10:41] <introuble> ok. what about obfuscation, how to secure java code. or php code even  ?
[10:42] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: omg .. go to google and type "hp proliant raid grub fails"
[10:42] <FRIED_BRAIN> done that for HOURS
[10:43] <Starman83> Does anybody have a clue why my dbus-daemon won't accept system-bus messages? (connection refused)
[10:43] <cjs> popey: It was libavcodec-extra-52 that I needed.
[10:44] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: ... I've been doing that for hours... I'm here crawling
[10:45] <chombee> Hey, anyone know where I can find out about USB surfsticks/dongles that are Ubuntu compatible?
[10:45] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: how it fails ?
[10:45] <popey> cjs: ahh! of course
[10:45] <dragoneye> i have a rougue window that i want to know the PID of, im using xwininfo and get the WIN_ID ..  how can i get the PID of that program spawning that window?
[10:45] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana:  on booting it goes unknow system: grub rescue>
[10:46] <crackerjackz> !gdlib2
[10:46] <Shikhin> Anyone?
[10:46] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: omg, second hit in google .. after clear installation boot off a live system (knoppix, slackware ..) and fix grub by reinstalling it
[10:47] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: I've tried to restore that... in many ways even using recatux... nothing works
[10:47] <mawk> w.irc.hu
[10:48] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: which raid controller ?
[10:48] <Pin> Guys , Im using Ubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu clasic mode and i enabled Desktop Cube and Rotate cube. but my cube is not even a cube its a flat desktop is two sides. How can I get more sides? I want a cube! http://i.imgur.com/11mDH.jpg
[10:49] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: Its on board of the Proliant ML 150 G6
[10:50] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: are you using default grub 2* or previous 1.96 ?
[10:51] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: default Grub2...
[10:51] <jem777> Pin, set the count of your workspaces to more than 2
[10:52] <Pin> jem777 where do i change that?
[10:52] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: then try standard grub .. download for example supergrub live usb (it's small, about 15MB) and install grub from there
[10:52] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: or lilo should work
[10:53] <jem777> Pin, right-click on the workspace-icon (on the lower panel) and select preferences
[10:54] <Pin> jem777 im on ubuntu classic
[10:54] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: Lilo seems to be a good solution... going to try it!
[10:54] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: also depends on where you installed grub, if to MBR or to /boot partition
[10:54] <AMethyst> hi
[10:54] <Laurenceb> how can i add the repo for the next version of ubuntu?
[10:54] <Laurenceb> i need openscenegraph >2.8, which isnt in the lucid repo
[10:54] <nettezzaumana> i remind some issues with grub in MBR on hw raid arrays
[10:55] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: try first standard good'n'old grub 1.96
[10:55] <nettezzaumana> and install it to /boot partition
[10:55] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: OK! then I'll come here to tell you how is may brain...
[10:55] <FRIED_BRAIN> XD XD XD XD
[10:56] <FRIED_BRAIN> *my brain
[10:56] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: no, i have to leave to avoid mind damage .. you could find me in #solaris or #openindiana if you'd leave me /msg
[10:56] <galigaili> :fred_brain: you can try this method http://askubuntu.com/questions/6025/grub-always-fails-to-install-furthest-i-get-is-grub-prompt
[10:56] <nettezzaumana> FRIED_BRAIN: i'm just pure visitor here
[10:58] <nettezzaumana> adieu !!
[10:58] <FRIED_BRAIN> nettezzaumana: ok! thanks... if you have facebook... look for eduardoramos.pt
[11:00] <cipher__> My resolution is completely messed up, nvidia has my screen set to the correct 1440/900 however everything is much too big
[11:00] <Infernet> hello all
[11:00] <cipher__> like 2x the size it previously was
[11:00] <Infernet> from Argentina
[11:00] <cipher__> at a minimum
[11:00] <Pin> Guys, Why does my desktop cube look like this? http://i.imgur.com/7BSmh.jpg  How do i make it look like a cube?
[11:00] <jamis_s> whnever i try to install something in ubuntu 11.04 i get following error Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[11:01] <wally> hi everobody from Poland
[11:01] <jamis_s> can some1 pls help?
[11:01] <Infernet> hi wally
[11:01] <Juozas> !ask | jamis_s
 jamis_s: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[11:02] <cipher__> lol oops?
[11:02] <cipher__> buffer issue
[11:02] <cipher__> My resolution is set to 1440x900 on my display via nvidia however everything is appearing much to large. this is after playing a game in fullscreen in wine, after rebooting as well
[11:03] <omegaphi> hi , I have a corrupted ubuntu on my system and I want to save a particular folder from it. How do I do using a livecd?
[11:03] <cipher__> lol english is a prereq
[11:03] <orwells-iphone> Can't you boot up any live distro and just navigate the filesystem ?
[11:04] <galigaili> jamis_s:sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf   sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <Infernet> orwells-iphone, yes
[11:05] <Pin> Guys, Something is wrong with my desktop cube. http://i.imgur.com/7BSmh.jpg  How do i make it look like a cube?
[11:06] <jamis_s> Pin : in your desktop cube settings change fron inside the cube to outside .. i dont remember where exactly you get this option but in cube settings in compiz
[11:06] <Infernet> omegaphi: just put the cd and boot from him
[11:07] <cipher__> Does anyone know how i can change my dpi settings or vPPI?
[11:07] <wally> comparison dropbox vs ubuntu ONE cloud from practical point of view. Ubuntu ONE seems to be slow
[11:07] <omegaphi> Infernet: I have ubuntu 10 and over it I have windows 7 and over windows I have ubuntu 11which is corrupted, how do I navigate to this?
[11:07] <antonio__> hello
[11:07] <antonio__> what is the spanish channel?
[11:07] <Pin> jamis_s this is fresh install of ubuntu i never changed it? I dont see that option in desktop cube nor rotate cube in compiz
[11:08] <SuBmUnDo> Pin, Ubuntu software center, search for compiz and install
[11:08] <Infernet> antonio__: hola
[11:08] <cipher__> What makes you think there is one? ubuntu-es
[11:08] <antonio__> hola
[11:08] <Pin> SuBmUnDo i have it
[11:08] <cipher__> vi a #ubuntu-es
[11:08] <jamis_s> Pin : go in advanced settings in compiz then desktop cube
[11:08] <antonio__> how to write private messages?
[11:08] <Infernet> omegaphi: boot from the live cd, that's it
[11:08] <jamis_s> are you using 10.10 or 11.04?
[11:09] <Pin> 11.04
[11:09] <Infernet> antonio__: /query nick msg
[11:09] <cipher__> this is such a useless support channel, over the years of being on here, NEVER have I had an answer
[11:09] <SuBmUnDo> Pin, install ccsm
[11:09] <Pin> SuBmUnDo I have ccsm
[11:09] <Pin> what next
[11:09] <s7r> cipher__ this sucks
[11:09] <Pin> I have CCSM open
[11:10] <s7r> cipher__ consider buying paid software to get 24x7 dedicated support
[11:10] <cipher__> I consider #debian
[11:10] <cipher__> it's not as is ubuntu did anything other than rebrand linux anyway
[11:11] <cipher__> (thank you for doing so)
[11:11] <mgolisch> they did?
[11:11] <Pin> SuBmUnDo what do i do now?
[11:11] <Ileden> cipher__: well that's the finest trolling belittling statement of the year :)
[11:11] <vik> hi guys jus wanted to know is it possible to move files from ms dos to ubuntu machine
[11:11] <mgolisch> they reband linux?
[11:11] <vik> through command
[11:11] <cipher__> typo.
[11:12] <Rouse> $ sudo grub-install --root-directory=./ /dev/sdb5
[11:12] <Rouse> when i giv this m getting errors
[11:12] <Rouse> lke
[11:12] <Rouse> /usr/sbin/grub- setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
[11:12] <Rouse> /usr/sbin/grub- setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[11:12] <Rouse> /usr/sbin/grub- setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[11:12] <FloodBot1> Rouse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <SuBmUnDo> Pin, http://www.ehow.com/how_2257535_get-rotating-cube-ubuntu.html
[11:13] <Infernet> update / install grub2
[11:13] <Ileden> cipher__: and as far as anecdotes go: over the years of being here, OFTEN have I had an answer that was actually helpful.
[11:13] <abekat> help
[11:13] <Rouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/644716/
[11:14] <cipher__> We have had very different experiences.
[11:14] <Pin> that doesnt explain how to fix the cube
[11:14] <Rouse> pls look into it
[11:14] <Ileden> abekat: just go ahead and ask your question.
[11:15] <abekat> how do i list the users of this channel? i use the irssi client in ubuntu
[11:15] <tomodachi> abekat: /names
[11:15] <vik> how to copy files from ms dos to linux
[11:16] <Rouse> hello anyone come across that
[11:16] <Rouse> ?
[11:16] <abekat> thx
[11:16] <SuBmUnDo> Pin, http://www.kombitz.com/2006/11/02/compiz-key-combinations-list/
[11:16] <tomodachi> vik: linux supports fat16, and fat32 , just copy the stuff to some medium then linux can read it
[11:16] <x1> for building webpages what do people recommend bluefish or ...?
[11:16] <vik> @tomodachi can u give example
[11:16] <vik> how do i move sample.txt
[11:17] <tomodachi> vik: how to copy things in msdos is not the right place to ask im afraid
[11:17] <Pin> nope, doesnt work either
[11:17] <tomodachi> this is an ubuntu hcanne
[11:17] <Pin> bad links
[11:17] <tomodachi> channel
[11:17] <Pin> links doesnt have solution
[11:17] <tomodachi> vik: but xcopy sample.txt a: should work
[11:17] <tomodachi> or just copy (the xcopy command came in windows dos i thing)
[11:18] <Rouse> whats up ?
[11:19] <vik> @tomodachi thanks im new to linux im sorry if my question was irrelevant
[11:19] <abekat> exit
[11:19] <tomodachi> vik: np hope i could help you
[11:20] <SuperLag> Why does using Natty in classic mode look like a Gnome UI from 10 years ago?
[11:20] <SuperLag> the previous version of Ubuntu didn't look this bad
[11:20] <SuperLag> what gives?
[11:20] <MK``> is the top panel grey with low-res icons?
[11:20] <Rouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/644716/
[11:20] <SuperLag> MK``: yeah
[11:21] <szal> SuperLag: Gnome 2 is almost that old
[11:21] <MK``> that's a bug, it's not loading your theme
[11:21] <MK``> that's the default GTK+ theme
[11:21] <SuperLag> szal: but I'm using the default UI with 10.10, and it's interface is even better than Natty in classic mode
[11:21] <Darael> SuperLag: It looks just like Maverick did to me.  That sounds like your gnome-settings-daemon isn't running.  I don't know why that's happened, but it should be fixed if you open the appearences dialog.
[11:21] <Rouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/644716/
[11:24] <Rouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/644716/
[11:24] <SuperLag> Darael: I just opened Appearance and selected Ambiance, and the body of the windows changed, but the top menu bar looks the same. I'll see how it works when I restart the UI
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Rouse: at least summarize the paste
[11:25] <SuperLag> Second question... other than doing rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/ and apt-get autoclean... is there anything you guys would recommend for saving space on an Ubuntu install? (this is a VM on a laptop, 12GB space total)
[11:25] <MK``> SuperLag I have the same issue, I can't seem to fix it. Whenever I restart, it's seemingly 50/50 whether it loads my theme or not.
[11:25] <SuperLag> MK``: hmm...
[11:26] <SuperLag> let me change that.... I see a mistake
[11:26] <SuperLag> Second question... other than doing rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/* and apt-get autoclean... is there anything you guys would recommend for saving space on an Ubuntu install? (this is a VM on a laptop, 12GB space total)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> MK``: seen posts on askubuntu.com about it
[11:26] <SuperLag> :)
[11:26] <AMethyst> how's it going ya'll?
[11:26] <MK``> yeah I checked. Nothing seemed to help me. I've had a ton of aesthetic problems since I upgraded heh. However, performance is mostly up
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag:  be carefull with that rm command
[11:27] <SuperLag> MK``: for what it's worth... mine is a clean install. No upgrading here.
[11:27] <AMethyst> rm -rf /
[11:27] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: I knew what I meant, just missed the * on the end. That's why I corrected it. :)
[11:27] <Darael> SuperLag: You don't need to rm /var/cache/apt/archives - just apt-get clean instead of apt-get autoclean.  Other than that, there's a tool you can use to bzip your executables to make them smaller... if I can remember what it is.
[11:27] <MK``> Ahh. I assumed it was due to some broken config when I upgraded
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag: id just use the apt commands
[11:28] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: I found localepurge, as well. Got rid of the extra language files
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> SuperLag: not any manual rm commands
[11:29] <AMethyst> where do i get a channel list for freenode?
[11:29] <jamis_s> Ping : you still there?
[11:29] <Darael> AMethyst: Said list is /massive/, but on most IRC clients you could /list
[11:29] <AMethyst> ah duh thanks it's been a while :)
[11:29] <SuperLag> AMethyst: if you do /list, you'll likely get kicked off the network, for a flood. But there's an /alis, or something like it, with helps.
[11:30] <Darael> AMethyst: If you're looking for a channel, look at alis: /msg alis list <pattern>
[11:30] <SuperLag> AMethyst: yeah, what Darael said! ^^^
[11:30] <AMethyst> thanks
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[11:30] <AMethyst> anyone going to linuxcon?
[11:30] <SuperLag> wow, this UI is horrid :/
[11:31] <SuperLag> maybe I should have stuck with Maverick on the laptop :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> so change it. :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> !classic
[11:31] <jami_s> Ping : you still there?
[11:32] <SuperLag> Dr_Willis: This is a laptop that caps at 4GB of RAM, and doesn't have the juice for Unity. I'm also running Ubuntu in a VM, in this case.
[11:32] <Wouter_> i'm using the live cd to install ubuntu with a software raid configuration, everything is partitioned as i want it at the moment (also checked with gparted) and i have a partition on both disks with the flag boot_grub (2x 2TB by the way) but at the step 'installing grub' and 'installing lilo' i get the message that the setup failed. I've searched on 20 forum's for an awnser b ut i cant figure out why, anyone any idea ?=)
[11:32] <Darael> Dr_Willis: SuperLag was mostly complaining about classic in Natty having issues with the theming failing.
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> unity disent work right for me on my desktop
[11:33] <Darael> Wouter_: For software raid, you'd have an easier time using the alternate cd.  Unfortunately I can't actually suggest a fix, but I thought I'd get that suggestion out of the way.
[11:33] <SuperLag> Darael: Dr_Willis: after enabling Ambiance, this looks like a mutation of Ubuntu and Fedora.
[11:33] <Wouter_> @Darael thanks for the tip anyway :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i always cistomize my themes.
[11:34] <Darael> SuperLag: Talking of Classic: You won't be able to use Gnome2 from Oneiric in any case: It's Gnome3, with what that implies: Gnome Shell.
[11:34] <Infernet> kubuntu, a very nice distro
[11:35] <SuperLag> Darael: I thought it was Unity or nothing?
[11:36] <Darael> SuperLag: Nope, Gnome3 is to be available.  Admittedly last time I tried it on my Oneiric box gnome-shell wouldn't start, but I understand that's fixed now.  There's probably a different bug breaking it - that's alpha releases for you.
[11:37] <Wouter_> q:Does ubuntu need an /boot partition for the grub to be installed in software raid?
[11:37] <Darael> SuperLag: It may be the case that only Unity is installed by default, but Gnome3 was definitely to be supported.  And even if it wasn't, it'd be in the repos.  They're good like that.
[11:37] <Ileden> Ok now this is getting awful crazy! my computer seems to HALT EVERYTHING at random interval (10-40min) to wait for any user activity... I kept a script running on terminal, increasing a number every 1 minute, and at the time the computer dropped off the network, the script ALSO halted, and resumed after i moved the mouse. Any idea whatsoever what this could be? I'm flabbergasted!
[11:38] <SuperLag> hardware
[11:38] <SuperLag> that doesn't sound like a software issue at all
[11:38] <SuperLag> that's just my $.02
[11:38] <dli> Darael, it's fixed for 3.0 series, or only in 3.2?
[11:39] <Ileden> SuperLag: yeah... thats the weirdest problem I've seen! Also, I found no bios options relevant to that.
[11:39] <Wouter_> @Darael Is the alternate cd the text based installer? im using that one..
[11:39] <Darael> dli: I haven't a clue.  It's been a few days since I booted my Oneiric box.
[11:39] <_et> Hi, just wondering if I can safely remove the contents of /usr/share/locale except "en" ..
[11:40] <SuperLag> _et: apt-get install localepurge
[11:40] <_et> SuperLag: Localepurge does not remove all of them for some reason
[11:40] <_et> SuperLag: I even tried bleachbit
[11:41] <Darael> Wouter_: It is, yes.  I misunderstood because you said the live CD which is the one with a desktop session.
[11:41] <Wouter_> @Darael thanks
[11:41] <SuperLag> what the... UGH
[11:42] <SuperLag> Restarted the VM, and it looks like the theming is fine, but then it reverts to this ugly crap!
[11:43] <SuperLag> I'm afraid of what 11.10 will bring, if this is the direction things are going.
[11:44] <dli> SuperLag, it's still linux(unix-like), so always choices for users
[11:46] <vikapi> there is no conventional /var/log/messages in ubuntu/kubuntu??/
[11:46] <vikapi> wat is the alternative that we have there instead..
[11:46] <Wouter_> Anyone here can help me with installing grub on a software raid ?
[11:48] <andax> i'm looking for a way to link my phone to a laptop so I can accept/decline incoming calls from the computer. ( like in a car ) What is the name of this feature? I cannot google because I don't know how this is called :) Please someone tell me the name of this feature.
[11:49] <SuperLag> andax: I'd look into Google Voice, and forward your phone to your Google Voice number.
[11:49] <introuble> i am geting installer crash error at 23% or wiping swap area while i install kubuntu repeatidly on 23%. i have changes the swap partition and resized it too but its still on 23%. help?
[11:49] <SuperLag> andax: and when a Google Voice call comes in, you have the ability to accept/reject it from your computer
[11:49] <Dink> How would you view what flags/option a binary was compiled with?
[11:50] <andax> SuperLag: that's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to use a bluetooth link. The same way when I'm in the car I can accept decline calls from the built in stereo.
[11:50] <andax> sorry for not being specific
[11:51] <andax> even the name of this thing/feature/whatever would help
[11:51] <eagleserver> introuble, sounds like a bad iso
[11:51] <andax> what to type in google basically :)
[11:52] <introuble> eagleserver i have check the iso at kubuntu startup
[11:53] <eagleserver> introuble, is it a standalone installation?
[11:55] <varunvyas> Hi all, When I am trying to set executable bit on files in usb-hdd , it's not setting , any help will be appriciated.
[11:55] <omegaphi> I have ubuntu installed via wubi, and thw windows is over another ubuntu installation. Both ubuntus have different versions. How do I access the ubuntu(wubi one) with the live CD?
[11:55] <omegaphi> please help ^^ :(
[11:56] <omegaphi> anyone?
[11:56] <introuble> eagleserver live cd
[11:57] <introuble> how to check swap for disk erros and auto fix
[11:58] <varunvyas> Hi all, When I am trying to set executable bit on files in usb-hdd , it's not setting , any help will be appriciated.
[11:59] <_et> SuperLag: Purged and reinstalled localepurge.. It works somehow! Thanks!
[11:59] <varunvyas> :(
[11:59] <SuperLag> _et: my pleasure
[12:01] <VectorX> hi, i am outputing utf8 chars in a term  eg http://pastebin.com/X3E3jcrn why are the column delimiter |'s are all over the place ?
[12:02] <VectorX> how can i fix this ?
[12:02] <VectorX> term is set to utf8
[12:02] <Wouter_> Anyone here can help me with installing grub on a software raid ?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[12:03] <rdpate> VectorX: whatever program that is, is adding the | based on bytes rather than displayed length
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> varunvyas:  what fs is the hd using
[12:03] <VectorX> rdpate its mysql
[12:03] <Wouter_> @ubottu, i followed all of those, install went fine, it's not installing the grub
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[12:04] <varunvyas> let me chck Dr_wills
[12:04] <varunvyas> msdos
[12:04] <rdpate> VectorX: either mysql has a setting to make it do the right thing, or I expect it will be difficult to change
[12:04] <varunvyas> msdos is fileystem Dr_willis
[12:04] <VectorX> ic
[12:05] <antihero> Is there a way to have all my PPAs automatically update to the latest available dist (oneiric in my case), if it is available?
[12:05] <rdpate> VectorX: there are different frontends to interact with mysql, if it's a big problem
[12:05] <m_> hello
[12:05] <VectorX> rdpate i am trying to use the term so i can copy the output as text easily
[12:05] <Pici> chombee: I'd ask your question again, and if you don't get an answer you may want to wait until later when this channel is more busy or  try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[12:05] <bazhang> antihero, #ubuntu+1 for oneiric support
[12:06] <shadu> could anyone help me with getting the theme selector for gnome 3 working?
[12:06] <antihero> bazhang: It's kind of applicable for any modern Ubuntu, though.
[12:06] <VectorX> rdpate using a front end would just increase the work, ie exporting to a file and then copying whats in that to another single file etc
[12:06] <bazhang> shadu, since thats not supported here, no
[12:06] <bazhang> !gnome3 | shadu
[12:07] <m_> anyone know how to run python .py in apache
[12:07] <shadu> meh, anywhere else i could go ask then? i tried several site methods.. but they dont work >.<
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> varunvyas: thats whyyoucant do it then
[12:08] <bazhang> shadu, the PPA maintainer. contact them
[12:08] <Pici> m_: look into mod_python.  (a2enmod python) its use is out of scope for this channel though, try #httpd for more support.
[12:08] <m_> thnx
[12:09] <pentester> What is the default password for Blackbuntu?
[12:09] <chewy> guys, is there a way to retreive a video in a web page?
[12:09] <bazhang> pentester, thats not a valid distribution
[12:09] <bazhang> chewy, sure firefox video download helper addon for many
[12:09] <pentester> I installed it on usb, so...
[12:09] <bazhang> chewy, or did you mean apple trailers
[12:10] <bazhang> pentester, its a derivate, and not supported here
[12:10] <popey> pentester: we don't support unofficial derivatives here. perhaps the people who made blackbuntu have a channel
[12:10] <chewy> bazhang, i mean some documentaries
[12:10] <pentester> ok, ty
[12:10] <bazhang> chewy, what format? embedded or non
[12:10] <chewy> http://watchdocumentary.tv/home-documentary/  example
[12:10] <popey> pentester: they have a forum.. http://board.blackbuntu.com/
[12:11] <pentester> thx
[12:11] <bazhang> chewy, the video download helper works on that page, for instance
[12:12] <prt1990> hey
[12:12] <prt1990> hi
[12:12] <chewy> bazhang, i use chrome ... but ok, i keep that in mind.
[12:12] <dyd> how can i check how much space left i have on loop0?
[12:12] <dyd> the usage percentage
[12:13] <Pici> dyd: does df not tell you that?
[12:14] <prt1990> oh really
[12:14] <prt1990> kldfsjaljiopjalkgnjah vkdahkvnsjhernlfhghkanueitr
[12:14] <prt1990> dslfnkjthvndbdgilafahgkjh ioh akdfhahcs jhuif akjfgaeroaho
[12:14] <bazhang> prt1990, english please
[12:14] <prt1990> sure
[12:15] <prt1990> wass up?
[12:15] <bazhang> prt1990, ubuntu support question?
[12:15] <prt1990> yeah
[12:15] <m_> Any reason why I cannot send to chanel in #httpd
[12:15] <bazhang> m_ you're not registered probably
[12:16] <dyd> Pici: yes, df was what i was looking for :)
[12:16] <Darael> m_: It may be set +m, for example, which would require you to be voiced.  Or possibly you aren't registered.
[12:16] <Darael> !register | m_
[12:16] <bazhang> m_, join #freenode to do so
[12:16] <whiteshen666> hello all
[12:16] <whiteshen666> i come from INDONESIAN :)
[12:16] <szal> and?
[12:17] <Darael> whiteshen666: Sorry to be unpleasant, but that's offtopic.  This is a support channel.  If you want to chat, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:17] <whiteshen666> oh im sorry
[12:17] <whiteshen666> :(
[12:20] <SinarShebl> I'm planning to buy a sony vaio c series laptop.. but I'm worried about the dual display card issue. does it work fine on ubunu or what ?
[12:22] <bazhang> SinarShebl, is that optimus? or the hybrid intel
[12:22] <bazhang> SinarShebl, ie, what are the two cards
[12:22] <Wouter_> I have mounted my software raid in the Ubuntu Live CD and i'm trying to install Grub to one of the drives. (sudo grub-install /dev/sda) gives me : (/usr/bin/grub-probe : error : cannot stat 'aufs'). Anyone can help me with this ?
[12:23] <SinarShebl> bazhang: ATI , Intel
[12:24] <vikapi> Wouter_: shouldn't it be /dev/md0..im not sure though
[12:24] <Wouter_> @vikapi i did that too, same error
[12:24] <bazhang> SinarShebl, conflicting reports on that one, some have reported that catalyst 11.6 *does* work with the ati card, while others are having issues with card not being recognized
[12:25] <Wouter_> @vikapi but i think the grub should be on the physical drive
[12:25] <Wouter_> seeing as thats what the bios see's
[12:25] <Wouter_> on both drives actually
[12:25] <SinarShebl> well, is it possible to disable this feature ??
[12:26] <bazhang> SinarShebl, only use the one card? ati/intel which
[12:26] <SinarShebl> I mean at the worst case ?
[12:26] <SinarShebl> ATI
[12:26] <bazhang> SinarShebl, of course, thats the main issue. presently
[12:26] <SinarShebl> mmm how ?
[12:27] <vikapi> Wouter, will this help?? http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2003-July/008898.html
[12:27] <bazhang> SinarShebl, could you ask a complete sentence, please; I'm entirely clear on your meaning.
[12:27] <bazhang> err not
[12:28] <noip> How can I see a list of recently updated packages? I'm pretty sure it was an update from two days ago that has completely messed up my internet connection
[12:28] <blinkyb> hi. please browsing on ubuntu is becoming extremely slow! what is that all about? i checked ram, nothing wrong. last week it was just fine. help please.
[12:28] <Wouter_> @vikapi ah, i had forgotten about that one, looked at it when i started this problem.. 7 hours ago -.-
[12:28] <SinarShebl> I mean the display card is expected to switch automatically on need
[12:28] <bluewulf> on my level - wiz
[12:28] <SinarShebl> how could I disable this feature if it didn't work well?
[12:28] <bluewulf> very cool
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> SinarShebl:  that feature is a work in progress on linux and ubuntu. its just too new
[12:30] <Pici> noip: There is a log of all installed packages in /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:30] <noip> Pici, does it show updates or just when I installed packages?
[12:30] <Wouter_> @vikapi thats for when grub is allready isntalled tho..
[12:30] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1736101 SinarShebl here's a recent post on that
[12:31] <vikapi> oh
[12:31] <Wouter_> @vikapi i've tried boot-repair (gui tool) aswell, but it says : no os found
[12:31] <SinarShebl> Dr_willis: so if I bought a new laptop would this be a problem for me or I should wait ?
[12:32] <noip> Pici, I'm looking at that log file. Why does it show dates from next week?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> SinarShebl:  its too new a feature to even predict. do you really need the 2 video stuff?  brand new 'things' are always going to be less supported. but a laptop thats been out for 6mo. should work well.
[12:33] <Wouter_> I have mounted my software raid in the Ubuntu Live CD and i'm trying to install Grub to one of the drives. (sudo grub-install /dev/sda) gives me : (/usr/bin/grub-probe : error : cannot stat 'aufs'). Anyone can help me with this ?
[12:35] <SinarShebl> Dr_williis: actually I don't need it, but it's possible to disable it ?
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> SinarShebl:  no idea
[12:35] <holyguyver> I need to kill -9 synaptic, how do I find it's ID?
[12:35] <bazhang> SinarShebl, did you read the post I linked you?
[12:35] <Wouter_> Or: Anyone know how to set up grub to an software raid?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> SinarShebl:  eventually it should work. but that may be 6mo from now
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> the whole 2 gpu idea. just seems a bit of a cludge.
[12:36] <SinarShebl> bazhang: I had already read it
[12:37] <Adam__> I am having this error when I try to log onto ubutnu Error: cannot find GRLDR in all drive. CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart
[12:38] <bazhang> Adam__, a wubi install?
[12:38] <Adam__> yes
[12:39] <s7r> what is the difference between ubuntu server and desktop?
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> s7r: no gui
[12:39] <blinkyb> hi. please browsing on ubuntu is becoming extremely slow! what is that all about? i checked ram, nothing wrong. last week it was just fine. help please.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> SinarShebl:   for myself. i wont buy a laptop with ati video at all...
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> s7r: server is just a barebones desktop version, with no gui applications but pretty much the same set of basic applications (cli)
[12:40] <s7r> thanks
[12:40] <tomodachi> blinkyb: firefox usually is slow in linux, try google chrome
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> different default kernel i think also
[12:40] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: every site?
[12:41] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, yes, every site. i never had that problem last week!
[12:41] <aeon-ltd> tomodachi: i concur, rendering times are only ms out, not large enough usually
[12:41] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: do you have windows to check it's linux only?
[12:41] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, what do you mean?
[12:41] <tomodachi> if its the initial load time of a page
[12:41] <tomodachi> it can be your dns
[12:41] <tomodachi> try switching or enabling a caching local dns
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <odium> what is oneiric?
[12:42] <Adam__> bazhang, yes
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: can you boot into windows, then use a browser to check it's slow there too
[12:42] <tomodachi> odium: next release of ubuntu
[12:42] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, am just running linux here.
[12:42] <odium> if I'm using 11.4 but downloading the kernel to compile should I get oneiric or natty?
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: check if your internet speed supplied hasn't changed either http://www.speedtest.net/
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> odium: why are you messing with the kernel ata all?
[12:43] <odium> what?!
[12:43] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455078&page=2 Adam__ here's a thread on that, mixed results
[12:43] <AlexDevilLX> Hi all
[12:43] <odium> are you kidding me?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> !oneiric | odium
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> no...
[12:43] <odium> it's a bloat?!
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[12:43] <odium> it's linux
[12:43] <odium> linux <> bloat
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> vague terms bloat..
[12:44] <odium> ok Dr. Willis, I am patching it
[12:44] <bazhang> odium, actual ubuntu support question?
[12:44] <odium> so it will use a logitech unifying receiver
[12:44] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, http://www.speedtest.net/result/1386750899.png
[12:45] <odium> bazhang, no, I was curious about onieric or whatever
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> hmm. those universial usb dongle for mice/keybord?  mine works  here.
[12:45] <odium> and you tell me not to compile my own kernel
[12:45] <odium> ok, I have one, how do I make ubuntu not update my kernel automatically?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> i asked why.. go do what you want
[12:45] <odium> if I'm using git to maintain a current release
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[12:46] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: wireless?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> bloat odium , what's bloat in this day and age of mulitigig RAM and terbyte HDDS and qudcore processors
[12:47] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, wireless. as I told you, never had a problem last week. one more thing, sometimes i use my brother's laptop, which runs ubuntu 10.04 as well, browsing is faster to the point where you can feel the difference.
[12:48] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: anything backgrounding? such as downloads, torrents?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> blinkyb:  as a test try a live cd. see if its faster/slower/same
[12:48] <blinkyb> aeon-ltd, nothing. just browsing the internet in multiple tabs
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> blinkyb:  as a test try a different distro livecd.  for all we know the neighbors microwave could be causeing interfearance
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> blinkyb: i'd go with Dr_Willis's plan or tomodachi's idea of different browser or reinstall firefox; not much to do if nothing siginificant changed
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> the airwaves are getting croweded
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> try different channel on router also. most like to default to the same channels it seems
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[12:53] <AlexDevilLX> Can i ask questions here?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> AlexDevilLX, as kaway
[12:53] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, about ubuntu, sure
[12:54] <AlexDevilLX> Because i was banned on Russian Ubuntu Chanel for asking
[12:54] <blinkyb> Dr_Willis & aeon-ltd, I'm now using Chromuim Web Browser and it is WAY TOO FAST! Still I prefer firefox, is there anyway I could speed that up?
[12:55] <AlexDevilLX> So anyway, I have recently installed Ubuntu and what things i should learn?
[12:55] <bazhang> !manual | AlexDevilLX
[12:55] <bazhang> !wiki | AlexDevilLX
[12:55] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, look at those first
[12:56] <AlexDevilLX> Thanks anyway
[12:56] <AlexDevilLX> But why i was banned on ru?
[12:56] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, ask in #ubuntu-irc
[12:56] <AlexDevilLX> thx
[12:59] <tmcgrath> anyone know the command to remove all non-hidden files recursivly without removing the folders?
[13:01] <AlexDevilLX> Can i hide who joined/leaved room?
[13:01] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, what client
[13:01] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang: pidgin
[13:02] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, never used pidgin sorry, you may also ask in #pidgin
[13:02]  * szal doesn't consider Pidgin a legitimate IRC client
[13:02] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang: ***szal doesn't consider Pidgin a legitimate IRC client How did he make that?
[13:03] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, with /me  but not something we like in a busy channel like this
[13:03] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, a rm * will do this in your actual directory. if you want to remove recursively, you can do it manually.
[13:03] <szal> bazhang: atm it's far from busy here :P -- that was different 10 hours or so ago
[13:03] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, how many subdiretorys do you have?
[13:04] <tmcgrath> ortsvorsteher: thousands
[13:04] <tmcgrath> this will take me forever to do one at a time
[13:04] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, and you only need to remove the files in it?
[13:05] <tmcgrath> ortsvorsteher: yes
[13:06] <AlexDevilLX> A little offtop, but is mac using bash?
[13:07] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, may you try it with an while loop... and an recursively list.
[13:07] <bazhang> !ot | AlexDevilLX
[13:08] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, i'll move there
[13:08] <tmcgrath> ortsvorsteher: yeah I had a feeling I was going to have to script this... guess I'll have to dust off my bash scripting skills (which are very dusty indeed)
[13:09] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, i just made a easy start for this script, i will paste it, hope it helps
[13:11] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/644760 may helps you...
[13:12] <tmcgrath> ortsvorsteher: awesome, thanks!
[13:12] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, wrong! http://paste.ubuntu.com/644762 this one may would work.
[13:12] <mikec> why do i get the fallowing after two weeks of upgrading to natty. "NO WUBILDR"
[13:13] <[diablo]> good afternoon ... guys I have a laptop with 11.04 on, which I bring to work... is there a profile switcher for locations, as currently I keep having to go to Systems -> Preferences -> Proxy , blah blah
[13:13] <[diablo]> want to quick switch
[13:14] <ortsvorsteher> tmcgrath, just try by the awk section to use apostrophes. like it is, it doesn't work. but may it helps you as a starter! have fun :)
[13:15] <tmcgrath> ortsvorsteher: ok, thanks again
[13:15] <AlexDevilLX> Can i run evolution like daemon?
[13:16] <barf> apt-get install makeinfo ncurses
[13:16] <barf> Does not work, did anyone rename them?
[13:18] <szal> barf: define 'does not work'?
[13:18] <freshone> how do i play gta vice city in ubuntu? i have paly on linux i put the install cd  play on linux shows the gta vice city icon but game does not start when do i put the 2nd play cd
[13:18] <barf> does not exist
[13:18] <barf> in the repo
[13:18] <barf> However is refered to in a howto
[13:18] <AlexDevilLX> freshone: Use Wine
[13:18] <freshone> how do i start the game gta vice city?
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> freshone: Install Wine, then setup vice city
[13:19] <freshone> i have wine  can you take me through it
[13:19] <szal> barf: in what howto?
[13:19] <freshone> step by step
[13:19] <freshone> wine is installed
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> freshone: aah, two cds
[13:19] <freshone> yes
[13:19] <barf> http://psl1ght.dashhacks.com/lesson01/linux/index.php box 1
[13:19] <AlexDevilLX> freshone: It's rather difficult
[13:19] <szal> !appdb | freshone
[13:20] <barf> szal: I need the one that matches: libncurses5-dev
[13:20] <AlexDevilLX> Why people use conky instead of putting inciators on panel
[13:21] <freshone> see i installed wine  now play on linux shows a vice city GTa icon i want to proceed further
[13:21] <th0r> AlexDevilLX: those panel indicators can present an appreciate load to the system
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> conky is more configurable and has been zaround for ages
[13:21] <freshone> the options it gives are: confifure wine registry editor
[13:21] <AlexDevilLX> th0r: You mean CPU load?
[13:22] <bazhang> freshone, /j #winehq for particular apps
[13:22] <triple> hello guys. i can't get my sound workin on 11.04 - have been using very old release (6.xx) for many years besides windows. m-audio delta 2496 not working, not recognized - no clue where to start
[13:22] <th0r> AlexDevilLX: cpu, memory, swap sometimes. The idea is that the system monitor itself should be as invisible as possible.
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> AlexDevilLX:  not everyone uses gnome also. conly works with most every wm out.
[13:22] <szal> barf: poke the author and tell them to also clear up typos
[13:22] <barf> Did that already, but no answer yet, would like to get the thing going
[13:23] <AlexDevilLX> I see
[13:23] <andrej4k> Hello, can anybody help me resqueing my borked partition table? parted can't see anything but fdisk and testdisk still see it (also kubuntu live cd)
[13:23] <szal> barf: and while you're at it, tell them that the pkg install part can be put on one line ;)
[13:23] <freshone> please guide what needs to be done
[13:23] <bazhang> freshone, not here
[13:23] <AlexDevilLX> I have 4 GB RAM can i bevare using swap
[13:23] <bazhang> freshone, #winehq as we have said
[13:23] <AlexDevilLX> *beware
[13:24] <szal> AlexDevilLX: beware?
[13:24] <AlexDevilLX> freshone: Try Youtube tutorials
[13:24] <th0r> AlexDevilLX: you might also look at gkrellm as an alternative
[13:24] <freshone> so i go on a web site? wine?hq
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> AlexDevilLX:  system will use swap if needed. dont worry about it
[13:24] <sudeep> hi, i have dell studio 15 and ubuntu natty narhewal installed, my sound is not working at all, kindly help me in this
[13:24] <bazhang> freshone, -------->   /join #winehq   <---- join that channel
[13:24] <BluesKaj> triple, open a terminal and type alsamixer , set the volumes there . make sure none are Muted MM
[13:25] <AlexDevilLX> Dr_Willis: I didnt make SWAP file and disk
[13:25] <bazhang> sudeep, checked alsamixer is not muted anywhere?
[13:25] <mgj> heh, sad and funny that so much work has gone into audio.... pulsaudio, gstreamer, etc etc, but people still rely on alsamixer =)
[13:25] <freshone> ok
[13:25] <freshone> thanks
[13:25] <sipior> AlexDevilLX: you'll want at least a swap file, if not a dedicated partition.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> AlexDevilLX:  hope you dont plan on suspending to disk either..
[13:26] <barf> szal: what can be put on one line?
[13:26] <sudeep> bazhang , ok i will check
[13:26] <barf> I but everything but  makeinfo ncurses on one line and it appeared to install just fine.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> mgj, pulseaudio is ahinderance to audio settings in alot of cases , some consider it redunadant and not progressive at all
[13:26] <szal> barf: exactly
[13:26] <AlexDevilLX> SWAP = pagefile in Windows?
[13:27] <sipior> AlexDevilLX: yes, more or less.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> !swap
[13:27] <TheTongue> how do I stop gcc from crashing so much
[13:27] <AlexDevilLX> sipior: Dr_Willis: Thanks
[13:28] <TheTongue> its always giving a segv when it gets somewhere and always at different spots
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> i mwould start with a memtest TheTongue
[13:29] <andrej4k> no one here who i used to partition tables?
[13:29] <AlexDevilLX> Whats XEN?
[13:29] <AlexDevilLX> in boot
[13:29] <AlexDevilLX> and Linux_20?
[13:30] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, there are not really ubuntu specific questions.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !xen
[13:31] <barf> $ ls /usr/bin/makeinfo
[13:31] <barf>  /usr/bin/makeinfo
[13:31] <AlexDevilLX> but it's placed in /boot/grub
[13:31] <bazhang> andrej4k, whats the real question
[13:31] <AlexDevilLX> !linux_20
[13:31] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, then ask a specific question.
[13:32] <AlexDevilLX> Whats linux_20 in boot
[13:32] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, why is that important to you
[13:32] <Mandrew> hi how do i purge unity from 11.04?
[13:33] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang: because i'm learning linux ;)_
[13:33] <bazhang> Mandrew, installing the gnome 3 session for natty will do that
[13:33] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, then ask ##linux
[13:33] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang: ok
[13:33] <Mandrew> bazhang,  i really dont want to have gnom3 on it
[13:34] <Mandrew> gnome3*
[13:34] <bazhang> Mandrew, no idea why you need to purge it then, just choose classic if you dont like it
[13:35] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang purge command is full deleting of something?
[13:35] <andrej4k> bazhang: Well, XP borked my partition table, parted doesn't see any partition, fdisk and testdisk do. How can I correect the situation?
[13:35] <Mandrew> bazhang, i just dont really want it in the distro taking up space
[13:35] <AlexDevilLX> bazhang: package manager?
[13:35] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, he meant get rid of, not purge in apt-get meaning
[13:35] <AlexDevilLX> andrej4k, restore grub
[13:36] <AlexDevilLX> Mandrew: Use Classic Ubuntu, it's cool
[13:36] <andrej4k> AlexDeviLX: you think, just bu restoring grub the partition will be ok?
[13:36] <sudeep> bazhang , how to check whether alsamixer is muted or not ?
[13:37] <AlexDevilLX> year
[13:37] <bazhang> sudeep, look where the sliders are, at the bottom or the top, experiment with them
[13:38] <surfdue> Hello, how do I configure my server to actually backspace, tab, etc when I send it. Instead of showing ^H^H
[13:38] <andrej4k> btw: if I try to install grub from the live cd it says "cannot stat aufs"
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !grub | andrej4k
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> surfdue:  i recall ages ago a backspace/delete howto at tldp.org
[13:38] <AlexDevilLX> Whats os prober
[13:39] <surfdue> Dr_Willis, I believe its a config flag for ssh, but I may be wrong.
[13:39] <zimnyx> I got dir that contains symlinks to other dirs. Whan I do `tar cfh dir.tar dir/' dir.tar contains only those dereferenced symlink dirs but there is no files inside. Can I make tar dereference symlink dirs recursively ?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | AlexDevilLX
[13:39] <Guest94421> #vectech
[13:39] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, something used with grub2
[13:40] <AlexDevilLX> It s used to boot my windows xp
[13:40] <Lovehappens> hi
[13:40] <Lovehappens> i m new on ubuntu and my webcam is not working with kopete :(
[13:41] <AlexDevilLX> BTW
[13:41] <bazhang> !webcam | Lovehappens check here first
[13:42] <surfdue> Dr_Willis, any ideas?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> surfdue:  on what
[13:43] <andrej4k> reinstalling grub won't help for me.
[13:43] <andrej4k> It's not the lost grub
[13:43] <surfdue> Dr_Willis, how to fix this ^[[A and ^H junk.
[13:43] <andrej4k> it's the whole partition table that is borked.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> you did check that tldp guide?
[13:44] <andrej4k> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: Error: cannot stat `aufs'."
[13:44] <andrej4k> Grub and parted don't see any partitions.
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> could be specific to your ssh client also
[13:44] <surfdue> Dr_Willis, I believe it has to do with term-color
[13:45] <sipior> surfdue: what is the result of "echo $TERM"?
[13:45] <sipior> surfdue: also, try "stty sane"
[13:45] <samineru> "rsync -rvzD --del /home/rob/music/newmusic/ .gvfs/iPhone/Music/" is deleting and recopying files that are already there, what am I doing wrong?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> andrej4k, so what are looking to rescue , if anything?
[13:46] <andrej4k> I have much data on the disk. that's the problem.
[13:46] <andrej4k> I'm trying to rescue the table.
[13:47] <zimnyx> I was wriong about tar. It oes what I expected.
[13:47] <seppi> hi every body
[13:47] <andrej4k> fdisk and testdisk see the partition table.
[13:47] <spacebug-> samineru: I'm just using -avz --delete src dst
[13:47] <BluesKaj> andrej4k, can yo see the data from the ubuntu -live cd ?
[13:47] <andrej4k> Yes
[13:47] <andrej4k> Live cd sees it.
[13:47] <andrej4k> testdisk and fdisk also
[13:47] <andrej4k> grub and parted don#t see anything
[13:48] <surfdue> sipior, xterm-color
[13:48] <surfdue> sipior, I am on a mac, using terminal it works on all my other servers mostly Centos/Debian
[13:48] <surfdue> This one is configured strangely
[13:48] <AlexDevilLX> Cheese records videos from webcam in HD>
[13:48] <AlexDevilLX> ?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> if the cam is hd. i think so
[13:48] <AlexDevilLX> Thx
[13:49] <samineru> spacebug: -a preserves a lot of unnecessary metadata, I'd prefer not to use it. Though that may be causing it to see them as different files...that might be it!
[13:49] <surfdue> sipior, whats happening is it is showing the ^H but it does actually backspace, example when I do TAB it does not show the tab result but it does actually perform the tab.
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> try it and see?
[13:49] <sipior> surfdue: make sure the appropriate entries are checked in the "Advanced" tab of the Terminal.app config.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> grub is gone due to your windows install . andrej4k  , but the data is still there then  i think a grub restore will make it accessible
[13:50] <andrej4k> I tried it, but grub-probe tells me, that it doesn't ssee any file system.
[13:50] <BluesKaj> grub probe ?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> grub-probe?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[13:50] <BluesKaj> :)
[13:51] <andrej4k> grub-probe tells me always an error when I try to reinstall it.
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> what is grub probe?
[13:51] <andrej4k> a grub2 program afaik
[13:51] <surfdue> sipior, fixed it I needed to set my mac term to xterm-color
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> never heard of,  or used it.
[13:52] <andrej4k> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[13:52] <andrej4k> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: Error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[13:52] <kickar> hey guys I am getting this error:  PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 268435456 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 383098285 bytes) in ..
[13:52] <andrej4k> This comes when I try it.
[13:52] <kickar> can someone help me to solve it?
[13:52] <andrej4k> I'm following the instruction there. ;)
[13:52] <rallias> umm... I have an interesting issue...
[13:52] <andrej4k> And get my error.
[13:52] <surfdue> sipior, nope actually I did that and its still not working
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> andrej4k: you are doing this from a live cd?
[13:52] <rallias> I have a full partition, and the trash refuses to empty... how do I fix this?
[13:52] <surfdue> sipior, def. something on the ubuntu server, perhaps on my username
[13:52] <jrib> rallias: what happens when you try?
[13:53] <sipior> surfdue: i also use Terminal.app, and connect to ubuntu boxes just fine.
[13:53] <andrej4k> Yes.
[13:53] <rallias> jrib: The file operations window opens for a few seconds then closes
[13:53] <jrib> rallias: tried just using the terminal to delete the files in trash?
[13:53] <rallias> whats the hidden folder for the trash?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> !trash
[13:53] <andrej4k> It was an example. I actually use parameters. But the error is the same.
[13:54] <andrej4k> "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444/boot /dev/sdb
[13:54] <andrej4k> This is what I use. Exactly like told by the guide.
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> andrej4k:  that /media/path is correct?
[13:55] <andrej4k> Yes.
[13:55] <andrej4k> Doublechecked this.
[13:55] <jrib> andrej4k: what filesystem?
[13:55] <rallias> wow... I had 1.1 gb of stuff in the trash?
[13:55] <andrej4k> Grub ist just a subproblem for me.
[13:56] <andrej4k> jrib: several partitions. all linux stuff on ext3.
[13:56] <rallias> er wait... 2.9 gb...
[13:56] <jrib> andrej4k: the filesystem that you are trying to install grub to
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> you could try chrooting in and using update-grub
[13:56] <andrej4k> I'm trying to install it into mbr. :>
[13:56] <rallias> well, at least now I can do my w4
[13:56] <andrej4k> I tried the chrooting already.
[13:57] <jrib> andrej4k: what filesystems are on the partitions on sdb...
[13:57] <andrej4k> ntfs, ext3, swap and extended (with several logical partitions)
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> aufs sounds like a fs type. but ive never seen that one befor
[13:58] <jrib> andrej4k: apt-cache policy grub-pc, what version is installed?
[13:58] <andrej4k> 1.99
[13:58] <jrib> andrej4k: full version please
[13:58] <andrej4k> And I'm still sure that it's not a problem in grub but in the borked partition table.
[13:59] <andrej4k> 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> sounds like grub is seeing the part. as aufs and not an ext4
[13:59] <jrib> andrej4k: review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/703009
[14:01] <ronqbc> hi, how can i import the backuped bookmarks from win 7? i mean in ff
[14:01] <rallias> ronqbc
[14:01] <edbian> ronqbc: In windows 7 have you saved the bookmarks in a file yet?
[14:01] <jrib> andrej4k: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/700910 has some interesting discussion as well
[14:01] <Wouter_> Hi there. Just installed ubuntu with the alternate installer. partitioned beforehand with gparted. Software raid with two disks. using Ms table, installed the Grub this time. The pc can boot now to the harddrive but it only boots to the grub, nothing after that. any ideas ? i tried boot-repair but it says: no os found
[14:02] <ronqbc> edbian, yes i've it
[14:02] <rallias> ronqbc in the bookmarks menu, there's an option show all bookmarks
[14:02] <rallias> open that up, at the top is "Import and Backup"
[14:02] <edbian> ronqbc: Did you mount the windows 7 partition?
[14:03] <ronqbc> rallias, edbian i couldnt import it here on ubuntu
[14:03] <ronqbc> what version of flash player do i need? i can't install it
[14:03] <edbian> ronqbc: Did you mount the windows7 partition?
[14:03] <rallias> ronqbc did you bork your windows installation or no?
[14:03] <edbian> ronqbc: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree (but one thing at a time!)
[14:03] <ronqbc> rallias, bork?
[14:03] <ronqbc> edbian,  no
[14:03] <edbian> bork = ruin
[14:03] <rallias> ronqbc technical star trek lingua
[14:03] <edbian> ronqbc: no to what?
[14:03] <rallias> ronqbc is the win7 partition still on drive?
[14:04] <ronqbc> edbian, is the the official flash player? can't i just install it from the browser?
[14:04]  * edbian doesn't want to overwhelm...
[14:04] <bazhang> ronqbc, install from repos as edbian suggests
[14:04] <edbian> ronqbc: It's actually much easier to install it using the command I gave.
[14:04] <ronqbc> edbian, win 7 par not mounted
[14:04] <ronqbc> rallias, on drive
[14:04] <rallias> ronqbc I recommend xmarks
[14:04] <edbian> ronqbc: And better because the package manager will keep it up do date for you.
[14:05] <edbian> rallias: Why is xmarks necessary for this?
[14:05] <rallias> edbian reliability
[14:05] <rallias> edbian the file formats aren't 100% the same.
[14:05] <ronqbc> rallias, for importing?
[14:05] <Wouter_> Anyone knowlegable about Software Raid and/or Grub ?
[14:05] <ronqbc> rallias, is it an easy tool?
[14:05] <r3mi> Hi dos anybody know guake? and how to change the width of it?
[14:05] <szal> edbian: flashplugin-nonfree is deprecated, the pkg only still exists for backwards compatibility..  use flashplugin-installer instead
[14:05] <rallias> ronqbc very
[14:05] <Lovehappens> can any one tell me which software should i use for webcam chat with my friends who r using yahoo
[14:06] <Wouter_> @lovehappens digsby
[14:06] <rallias> ronqbc compatibility with IE, Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, and I think opera
[14:06] <edbian> ronqbc: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:06] <edbian> szal: thanks
[14:06] <ronqbc> rallias, can't find xmarks in the manager
[14:07] <rallias> ronqbc its an extension
[14:07] <Lovehappens> brb
[14:07] <rallias> you need to install on windows to push then linux to pull
[14:07] <ronqbc> edbian, but i've already started the command of flash install that you gave before
[14:07] <ronqbc> i see
[14:07] <rallias> ronqbc unless you're in the mood for some fun hoolabalooza
[14:07] <rallias> (whcih isn't much, but its a bit complex)
[14:08] <ronqbc> rallias, what's tgat?
[14:08] <edbian> ronqbc: you can remove that old package like this: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree  but I think even if you left it there it wouldn't do any harm but take up space.
[14:08] <rallias> ronqbc I'm assuming your british?
[14:09] <ronqbc> rallias, israeli
[14:09] <rallias> ronqbc do you know the partition that windows is on?
[14:09] <Lovehappens> i m on ubuntu fellow
[14:09] <Lovehappens> digsby is for windows
[14:10] <Lovehappens> isnt it ?
[14:10] <ronqbc> how can i activate the ati graphic driver?
[14:10] <fjorgynn> Hi
[14:10] <szal> !ati | ronqbc
[14:10] <ronqbc> rallias, sure. i've the file on ubuntu already
[14:10] <aeon-ltd> Lovehappens: on the site they have mac and linux versions too
[14:10] <rallias> lovehappens: I'm sure you'll find pidgin and empathy capable
[14:10] <rallias> ronqbc can you import it?
[14:10] <ronqbc> wait. they say i need to restart.
[14:10] <sudeep> bazhang, yes i tried with alsa mixer but sounds not working, now youtube videos are playing very fast
[14:10] <Wouter_> I installed the OS (ubuntu, alternate cd) made a software raid, it installed fine but now i start to the Grub, any ideas? I think the grub cannot find the kernel (wich is on the array)
[14:11] <Lovehappens> in pidgin and empathy my cam does not works
[14:11] <fjorgynn> Hi can I
[14:11] <ronqbc> rallias, well, i need to try it a bit later.
[14:11] <rallias> Wouter_ Boot into a live cd and do the grub scan...
[14:11] <Wouter_> @rallias how do i do the grub scan ?
[14:11] <Lovehappens> digsby is coming
[14:11] <Lovehappens> soon for
[14:11] <Lovehappens> Mac and Linux!
[14:11] <Lovehappens> Thank you for your interest in
[14:11] <Lovehappens> digsby for Mac and Linux!
[14:12] <FloodBot1> Lovehappens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <Lovehappens> You'll be informed as soon as it's ready.
[14:12] <rallias> @Wouter_ Give me a minnute I'll find the link
[14:13] <Wouter_> @rallias thanks
[14:13] <fjorgynn> what's the "view menu" shortcut key in xfce?
[14:13] <Wouter_> @lovehappens that's strange.. im sure i used it on linux
[14:13] <rallias> Wouter_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Overwriting the Master Boot Record
[14:13] <rallias> (COPY THE WHOLE LINK)
[14:13] <Wouter_> thank you :)
[14:14] <rallias> Wouter_ Yep
[14:14] <rallias> Wouter_ It SHOULD detect... I'm not 100% sure tho... I don't know anything about software raids
[14:14] <ronqbc> how can i paste a printed screen? just gimp?
[14:15] <aeon-ltd> ronqbc: what? if you use the screenshot utility (or use scrot in a terminal) it will save to a jpg or png on your desktop
[14:15] <edbian> ronqbc: You can install gpaint which is a lot like ms paint.  Or you the screenshot utility that comes with ubuntu
[14:15] <aeon-ltd> ronqbc: then you can upload that to something like imageshack or other site
[14:15] <Wouter_> @rallias after i boot in the live cd i get a partition availible wich i called boot, but theres only one map called Lost & Found on it
[14:15] <bazhang> ronqbc, imagebin you mean?
[14:15] <rallias> Wouter_ Look under /dev/mapper
[14:16] <ronqbc> edbian, gpaint can easily crop?
[14:16] <fisherman> halo
[14:16] <ronqbc> i've just found that i can save the screenshot directly. i forgot of this option
[14:16] <edbian> ronqbc: IDK.
[14:16] <fisherman> halo
[14:16] <edbian> ronqbc: yes, use the screenshot utility
[14:16] <mzilla> hoi
[14:16] <fisherman> any know about honeyd honeyview
[14:17] <fisherman> ??
[14:17] <ronqbc> does ubuntu one highly reliable?
[14:17] <bazhang> fisherman, whats that
[14:17] <bazhang> ronqbc, sure
[14:17] <Wouter_> @rallias i only see control.txt
[14:17] <Wouter_> @rallias i can see my Array too however
[14:17] <Wouter_> @rallias but i cant mount it, i need mdma for it , doesnt come with the live cd
[14:17] <ronqbc> do i need to be afraid to leave keepassx open because of hackers?
[14:18] <Wouter_> but im sure that would mount fine and i'd find /boot on it
[14:18] <rallias> wouter_ sudo apt-get install mdma?
[14:18] <ronqbc> how can i show desktop? isn't there a button?
[14:18] <Wouter_> where is grub supposed to be? i think it's on the mbr but not accesable on the array or something
[14:19] <ronqbc> i want to share with you my desktop appearence
[14:19] <rallias> ronbc its prt screen
[14:19] <Wouter_> rallias: ill try that, thanks :)
[14:19] <rallias> wouter_ :D
[14:19] <madprops> Wouter_, you need mdma?
[14:20] <ronqbc> thanks all
[14:20] <ronqbc> i've other things to say but soon.
[14:22] <rallias> Has anyone else had troubles with flash blatently ignoring the volume controls?
[14:22] <hu5h> i need help with rtorrent, why cant i talk in #rtorrent? It says "Cannot send to channel"
[14:22] <ronqbc> can you see it? is it good? http://imageshack.us/f/718/screenshotaw.png/
[14:23] <sudokill> hu5h, what do you nee dhelp on
[14:23] <mgj> hu5h, i dont know that channel, perhaps you need to be registered?
[14:23] <DJones> hu5h: You might need to have a registered nick & be identified to freenode to use that channel
[14:23] <hu5h> sudokill: i want to move an incomplete torrent because the disk has run out.
[14:23] <DJones> !register | hu5h
[14:24] <dbu> Hi, WIth a natty box I'm getting lots of "Some index files failed to download" on `sudo apt-get update` and I can't run sudo apt-get upgrade is this usual, and how do I fix it?
[14:24] <sudokill> hu5h, just stop the torrrent and move the file
[14:24] <hu5h> mgj: ok, thanks. ill check that.
[14:24] <ronqbc> how does ununtu works without a properiety graphic driver? is it bad with out it?
[14:24] <sudokill> ronqbc, its not bad just not as good for 3d
[14:24] <hu5h> sudokill: aah, and set a new download path? gotcha. thanks :)
[14:24] <sudokill> ok
[14:24] <compdoc> ronqbc, sometimes its better, and sometimes the opensource one is better
[14:25] <hu5h> DJones: i see, thanks. ill try to register my nick.
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ronqbc, depends on the graphics card make
[14:26] <sudeep> hi all , i have studio 15 and natty installed, my sound is not working, please help
[14:27] <BluesKaj> ronqbc, some proprietary nvidia drivers don't work despite nvidia's recommendations
[14:29] <sudeep> hi all , i have studio 15 and natty installed, my sound is not working, please help
[14:30] <bazhang> sudeep, whats studio 15
[14:30] <vikapi> using kmail.i want to GPG sign a mail and while tryin to send without askin for passprhase, it says bad passphrase.
[14:30] <vikapi> any idea how to prompt for a passphrase?
[14:30] <sudeep> bazhang , dell studio 15 laptop
[14:30] <bazhang> vikapi, how did you create the keys
[14:32] <depesz> hi. which package should I install to have support for editing remote files (scp:// ...) ?
[14:32] <ronqbc> how can i untick some files while adding a torrent?
[14:32] <bazhang> ronqbc, which client
[14:32] <depesz> i just reinstalled system, installed vim, but it doesn't let me work on those files.
[14:33] <ronqbc> bazhang, transsmition
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> i never noticed vim could do scp:// type urls
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> theres always sshfs
[14:34] <bazhang> ronqbc, right before you add, a window will come up, uncheck there
[14:35] <lotutu> hello all, how can I run vim in perl?
[14:35] <ronqbc> bazhang, can
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> lotutu:  clarify what you mean
[14:35] <ronqbc> bazhang, can't i untick them all?
[14:36] <bazhang> ronqbc, that would mean not getting anything in the torrent, so why bother
[14:36] <lotutu> Dr_Willis: I want to use vim in a perl script, with `vim $filename`, but it says output is not to a terminal
[14:37] <antihero> How do I find outif a package is being downloaded from the right PPA?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> lotutu:  theres prob. a proper way to  start a child process that way. ive not done perl in years
[14:38] <ronqbc> bazhang, i want one file
[14:38] <ronqbc> from 200
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> so..  unselect the rest?
[14:38] <ronqbc> listen. idon't know how to play many mp3 folders at once.
[14:38] <ronqbc> Dr_Willis, it's lot's of files
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> ronqbc: i drag/drop the dirs to  my media players playlist
[14:39] <ingo> greetings
[14:39] <lotutu> Dr_Willis: thanks
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> ronqbc:  i recall a select/all/uneslet all..
[14:39] <sktn07> please view the image http://imagebin.org/163253   what is red line indicates here?
[14:40] <chaddy> ronqbc: music123 -r /path/to/dir1/ /path/to/dir2/ /&c/&c/
[14:40] <ingo> ive got some trouble with my 1tb usb hard drive, wonder if anybody can help :)