[21:29] <slickymaster> good night all
[21:29] <belkinsa> Hey there.
[21:29] <belkinsa> We got the logging bot now.
[21:29] <slickymaster> yeah, I saw it listed
[21:31] <slickymaster> but it's still sot showing in the IRC log site http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[21:31] <jenni> [ Index of / ] - https://j.mp/19CMGDT
[21:31] <belkinsa> It might take time.
[21:31] <belkinsa> It updates once in while.
[21:31] <slickymaster> yeah it takes same time to update it's cache
[21:31] <slickymaster> its
[21:32] <slickymaster> but it's all fixed up, now
[21:37] <belkinsa> slickymaster, who is BlinkinCat again?
[21:37] <slickymaster> he's Geoff,
[21:38] <belkinsa> Okay, thanks.
[21:38] <slickymaster> he's the one who thought of NewDocs in the first place
[21:38] <belkinsa> I se.e
[21:38] <belkinsa> And Bunny is L. Tate?
[21:38] <slickymaster> yeapds
[21:38] <belkinsa> Okay, thanks you.
[21:38] <slickymaster> np :)
[21:39] <belkinsa> Geoff told me via PM that 50% of the team are female.
[21:39] <slickymaster> yeah, it's me and him versus you and Leigh
[21:40] <belkinsa> Small world, eh?
[21:40] <slickymaster> what is the jenni's feature you were complaining about this afternoon that wasn't working?
[21:40] <slickymaster> how come, small?
[21:40] <belkinsa> It's just four of us in the team.
[21:41] <belkinsa> It was the question feature of jenni.
[21:41] <slickymaster> it's bound to grow
[21:41] <belkinsa> But that's just for fun.
[21:41] <belkinsa> Yeah.
[21:41] <slickymaster> tell me about that feature
[21:42] <belkinsa> You can ask her a question (yes or no) and she picks randomly.
[21:42] <belkinsa> jenni: are you jenni?
[21:42] <slickymaster> what's the command like?
[21:42] <belkinsa> [16:42] <jenni> belkinsa: Am I?
[21:42] <belkinsa> Well, you get \my point.
[21:43] <slickymaster> yeaps
[21:43] <belkinsa> https://github.com/myano/jenni/wiki
[21:43] <jenni> [ Home · myano/jenni Wiki · GitHub ] - https://j.mp/hstVJs
[21:43] <slickymaster> I should have bookmarked that one yesterday
[21:43] <belkinsa> [16:43] <Unit193> jenni: Haya, baby. ;)
[21:43] <belkinsa> [16:43] <jenni> Unit193, What do you mean by baby?
[21:43] <belkinsa> Yeah, same.
[21:44] <belkinsa> But yano said that most of the features are turned off for this channel
[21:44] <slickymaster> I remember that
[21:45] <yano> they are
[21:45] <slickymaster> hi yano
[21:45] <yano> the .ask does the random thing
[21:46] <yano> but if you address her as "jenni: " her AI takes over
[21:46] <yano> both of which are disabled in here
[21:46] <slickymaster> ok
[21:46] <belkinsa> And the spelling correction one is off too, right?
[21:47] <yano> foo
[21:47] <yano> s/o/a/
[21:47] <yano> yes
[21:47] <belkinsa> Okay, but we are waiting for the netsplit for that to be on.
[21:47] <belkinsa> Duh, I remember now!
[21:48] <yano> oh, one moment
[21:49] <yano> this will be a few moments
[21:49] <belkinsa> Okay, sorry for forcing you do this on all of your channel that jenni is on
[21:50] <belkinsa> foo
[21:50] <belkinsa> s/o/a
[21:53] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: fao
[21:53] <belkinsa> W00t!
[21:53] <belkinsa> jenni: You rock!
[21:53] <belkinsa> Yano, I mean.
[21:53] <slickymaster> yes
[21:53] <yano> :)
[21:54] <slickymaster> thanks a lot for everythinnj yano
[21:54] <yano> yup! :)
[21:54] <belkinsa> Yes.  Thank you.
[21:55] <belkinsa> Oh, yano. if you live near OSU, you have a cool campus.  It's like a village.
[21:55] <yano> Ohio State University?
[21:55] <yano> yea, it's pretty cool
[21:55] <belkinsa> Yeah.
[21:56] <belkinsa> I been there only once but only to the stadium for the OSU marching band contest.
[22:16] <knome> slickymaster, i'm here
[22:16] <slickymaster> welcomw
[22:16] <slickymaster> let me ask you something
[22:17] <slickymaster> is it really necessary to have users with channel ops other the ChanServ itself?
[22:17] <knome> nope
[22:17] <knome> if the access rights are set properly, you don't need to keep yourself opped
[22:18] <slickymaster> belkinsa, ^^
[22:18] <slickymaster> thanks knome
[22:18] <knome> no problem
[22:18] <belkinsa> And they are.
[22:18] <knome> ping me if you need more help with it, or something else
[22:18] <slickymaster> anyway just to you get to know this other place
[22:18] <knome> you can try it
[22:18] <knome> slickymaster, deop yourself
[22:19] <slickymaster> õk
[22:19] <knome> slickymaster, then do /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-newdocs
[22:19] <knome> or belkinsa
[22:19] <slickymaster> ok
[22:19] <knome> if only one of you does that, you'll be able te regain ops if the access rights *aren't* set up properly ;)
[22:22] <slickymaster> thanks belkinsa, my son was calling me
[22:22] <belkinsa> Okay.
[22:22] <slickymaster> I think that finally we're all set
[22:22] <belkinsa> Sorry for doing that, but I think we don't need to OP all the time
[22:22] <belkinsa> Thank yoy knome.
[22:22] <belkinsa> s/yoy/you
[22:22] <jenni> belkinsa meant to say: Thank you knome.
[22:23] <knome> awwh
[22:23] <belkinsa> I heart jenni.
[22:23] <knome> slickymaster, try if you can gain the ops as well.
[22:26] <slickymaster> yes, knome, I can
[22:27] <knome> cool
[22:27] <slickymaster> now back to work :P


[03:08] <zaki> morning pavlushka and others.
[03:08] <zaki> have a nice day. :)
[03:42] <pavlushka> Morning zaki !
[04:00] <pavlushka> QA tell AudaciousTUX that on FB what will do MH Murshed now?
[04:00] <QA> pavlushka: Sure, I'll tell AudaciousTUX on freenode
[04:08] <zaki> pavlushka: it's done, now he can write using avro, to switch input method he have to press ctrl+space may be.
[04:08] <pavlushka> zaki: then post that there, :)
[04:17] <pavlushka> zaki: RemonShai gave both of us the exactly the same testimonial on wiki, lol
[04:17] <pavlushka> zaki: and that is almost copied from your testimonial, :p
[04:23] <zaki> he he..
[04:24] <zaki> i told him about that, tried to convince him but no luck. :|
[04:26] <zaki> pavlushka:  you answerd that alrdy.
[04:26] <zaki> about avro!
[04:31] <Researcher> salaam and good morning
[04:31] <zaki> Researcher: w salam. :)
[04:33] <zaki> QA: coffee on
[04:33]  * QA puts the kettle on
[04:37] <QA> Coffee's ready for zaki!
[04:43] <zaki> QA: ty
[04:43] <QA> Only a pleasure zaki
[04:51] <zaki> wb AudaciousTUX
[05:00] <pavlushka> hellu AudaciousTUX
[05:00] <AudaciousTUX> hellu pavlushka
[05:00] <QA> AudaciousTUX: By the way, pavlushka on freenode told me "tell AudaciousTUX that on FB what will do MH Murshed now?" 1 hour and 1 second ago
[05:00] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: RemonShai was telling that hellu is actually coined by him, :p
[05:01] <AudaciousTUX> :o
[05:01] <AudaciousTUX> finally mh murshed problem solved :3
[05:02] <zaki> bbl
[05:04] <pavlushka> :3
[05:40] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: I think you have to gain some karma in order to get approved in the ""wiki editors" team, :)
[05:41] <AudaciousTUX> :o :'(
[05:48] <pavlushka> Salam Researcher !
[07:59] <pavlushka> Hello Tuhin !
[08:03] <Tuhin> hello
[08:04] <pavlushka> Tuhin: how is it going for you?
[08:08] <Tuhin> aito
[08:09] <Tuhin> doing some construction work
[15:14] <zaki> welcome back Kilos
[15:14] <Kilos> hi guys
[15:14] <Kilos> just got back from hospital
[15:14] <zaki> hi Kilos :)
[15:14] <Kilos> very tired and many emails to answer
[15:14] <Kilos> one is the bug in spreadubuntu
[15:15] <zaki> how is the medical report?
[15:15] <Kilos> lungs in good condition for someone thats been smoking for 49 years
[15:15] <Kilos> hehe
[15:16] <AudaciousTUX> :v
[15:16] <Kilos> ephysema is there though so need to stop soon
[15:16] <zaki> sure?
[15:16] <Kilos> have the ok guys been active zaki
[15:18] <shishir> Emphysema gradually damages the air sacs (alveoli) in your lungs, making you progressively more short of breath.
[15:19] <zaki> :|
[15:20] <Kilos> yeah well ive been working at that for 49 years so soon will stop smoking and let those goodies rest a bit
[15:23] <zaki> yes kilos, pk guys doing fine
[15:23] <Kilos> yay
[15:23] <zaki> some new guys joined today.
[15:24] <Kilos> hi shishir
[15:24] <shishir> hello Kilos
[15:25] <zaki> what about spread ubunt site?
[15:25] <Kilos> have ther guys been friendly with you shishir ?
[15:25] <Kilos> im working on getting the ssh login repaired
[15:26] <zaki> oh!
[15:27] <Kilos> shishir ty for joining us here
[15:28] <zaki> shishir: is in silent mode
[15:29] <Kilos> maybe he is shy
[15:29] <zaki> he he. :P
[16:11] <Kilos> http://iterum.io/
[16:11] <Kilos> first step in new bot
[16:13] <zaki> how it work?
[16:14] <Kilos> i havent looked yet but pavel should know
[16:14] <zaki> oh
[16:16] <Kilos> its the new version of the ibid bot like QA
[16:16] <Kilos> first step
[16:16] <AudaciousTUX> yoo... |o? pavlushka
[16:16] <AudaciousTUX> \o/
[16:17] <zaki> wb pav
[16:17] <zaki> pavlushka: *
[16:17] <Kilos> wb pavlushka
[16:18] <pavlushka> Looks like someone is very happy to see me, :p
[16:18] <pavlushka> Thanks everyone!
[16:18] <AudaciousTUX> :p
[16:18] <Kilos> hehe
[16:19] <Kilos> http://iterum.io/
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> whats that Kilos
[16:19] <Kilos> the new version of QA
[16:19] <AudaciousTUX> :o
[16:20] <AudaciousTUX> QA u're improved bro??
[16:20] <QA> AudaciousTUX: What?
[16:20] <Kilos> haha
[16:20] <AudaciousTUX> Kilos:  see?? doesn't matter :/
[16:20] <AudaciousTUX> QA can you kill kilos?
[16:20] <Kilos> yeah but will be easier to install on ubuntu after 12.04
[16:21] <AudaciousTUX> wow..  জীবনে একদিন গেছিলাম :v
[16:42] <zaki> same here. :D
[16:42] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: :V
[16:42] <zaki> wb dipraw
[16:42] <pavlushka> Welcome dipraw !
[16:42] <Kilos> hi dipraw
[16:42] <NaSb> pavlushka Thanks ;)
[16:42] <zaki> housefull. :)
[16:43] <Kilos> ohi NaSb
[16:43] <pavlushka> zaki: \o/
[16:43] <NaSb> Hello Kilos, How are you?
[16:43] <Kilos> ok ty and you NaSb ?
[16:44] <shishir> hi pav
[16:44] <pavlushka> shishir: please, tell us about you, :)
[16:44] <NaSb> I'm very busy with my present working status >>> startup, projects, Mozilla QA, etc . . .
[16:44] <AudaciousTUX> pavlushka: ... irc niya je doc ta banaichilen oita koi??
[16:45] <shishir> i think i know you pavlushka :p
[16:45] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: amader group e ase
[16:45] <NaSb> AudaciousTUX: সাইটে সময় দেন না কেন?
[16:45] <AudaciousTUX> porikkha
[16:46] <AudaciousTUX> porikkhar por 1 mash er moddhe banai sarum inshallah :3
[16:46] <pavlushka> shishir: that's nice, but all here would be happy if you tell us something about you, :)_
[16:46] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: thumbs up on that, :)
[16:47] <zaki> AudaciousTUX: https://www.facebook.com/notes/pavel-sayekat/how-to-irc/10209386543358117
[16:48] <pavlushka> shishir: because you have just registered your nick/username almost in two hours back, :p
[16:48] <shishir> i'm afraid :(
[16:49] <pavlushka> shishir: so you know a things or two about irc, and you seems to be smart, :)
[16:49] <pavlushka> *seems/seem
[16:50] <Kilos> dont be afraid shishir pavlushka will guide you
[16:52] <shishir> oky..
[16:57] <pavlushka> Kilos: its Walrider!
[16:57] <Kilos> aha
[16:58] <pavlushka> Kilos: shishir is his bouncer nick. good that he has configured and been able to talk through that, :)
[16:58] <Kilos> yes very good
[16:58] <AudaciousTUX> jaiga... https://www.facebook.com/mokhlesur.rahman.372 ashte pare irc te....
[16:58] <AudaciousTUX> @pavlushka:
[17:00] <pavlushka> ha ha ha
[17:01] <shishir> why you loughing?
[17:10] <Kilos> must be something funny in that link shishir
[17:11] <Kilos> im not browsing much, need to save data
[17:12] <shishir> hmm Kilos everything seems funny. :p
[17:12] <pavlushka> Sorry Kilos , wrong guess, coz I am not sitting in a chair atm, shishir is zaki, :)
[17:12] <Kilos> hi russell_
[17:12] <pavlushka> Welcome russell_ !
[17:12] <Kilos> haha
[17:12] <Kilos> is that you ekus
[17:12] <Kilos> ekushey
[17:12] <AudaciousTUX> nope
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> he's not ekushey.... ;)
[17:13] <Kilos> oh
[17:13] <zaki> hello russell_
[17:13] <Kilos> russell_ welcome to ubuntu-bd
[17:13] <russell_> hello
[17:13] <AudaciousTUX> russell_:  add hexchat to autostart applications
[17:13] <russell_> ok
[17:14] <pavlushka> Kilos: russell_ is https://www.facebook.com/mokhlesur.rahman.372, :)
[17:14] <AudaciousTUX> ajke eto typo hoiteche ken :3
[17:14] <Kilos> im not fbing pavlushka data waste
[17:15] <Kilos> got 800 meg to month end
[17:15] <zaki> Kilos: you don't have to. we'll take care of fb.  Kilos :D
[17:18] <Kilos> yeah
[17:19] <Kilos> hee hee
[17:19] <zaki> (y)
[17:19] <pavlushka> may be we hit today the maximum nick, :)
[17:19] <AudaciousTUX> yooo
[17:20] <pavlushka> nicks
[17:20] <zaki> may be pavlushka
[17:20] <AudaciousTUX> how many human here??
[17:20] <zaki> 15 i think
[17:20] <AudaciousTUX> actually i've seen more people in irc long long time ago :'(
[17:21] <zaki> that's a long time ago
[17:21] <NaSb> Since 2014 ...
[17:21] <AudaciousTUX> 13
[17:21] <zaki> russell_: where are you from?
[17:21] <Kilos> was about 3 5 months ago
[17:21] <Kilos> we are winning
[17:23] <zaki> :)
[17:23] <AudaciousTUX> russell_:  maybe playing left4dead :D
[17:24] <Kilos> lol
[17:25] <zaki> he he.
[17:25] <AudaciousTUX> NaSb: give me some stickers :'(
[17:25] <NaSb> কোনটা লাগবো?
[17:26] <AudaciousTUX> kiser kiser ache??
[17:26] <NaSb> অনেক গুলাই তো আছে
[17:26] <NaSb> এখন সাথে ব্যাগ নাই থাকে ছবি দিতে পারতাম
[17:26] <AudaciousTUX> linux or pengu or ubuntu??
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> uh.... somoy paile pic diyen
[17:27] <NaSb> tux আছে
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> josss
[17:27] <AudaciousTUX> firefox er ektai badge chilo.... brishtite noshto hoi geche :'(
[17:28] <zaki> i lost my one. :(
[17:30] <NaSb> Firefox এর ব্যাজ, স্টিকার, রিজব্যান্ড সবই আছে, তাছাড়া কয়েকদিনর মধ্যে আরো আসবে নতুন কিছু
[17:30] <AudaciousTUX> amar wristband tao college er sir e khaiya diche :3 :'(
[17:31] <zaki> lol
[17:32] <zaki> i need tux, how to get one NaSb?
[17:33] <zaki> tux sticker*
[17:34] <NaSb> Here the sample of my Tux sticker, https://imgur.com/oqrNxjU
[17:34] <NaSb> https://imgur.com/k0PzrRq
[17:35] <NaSb> see AudaciousTUX
[17:35] <zaki> :(
[17:35] <zaki> how can i get one? at chittagong
[17:35] <zaki> nice
[17:35] <Kilos> download and print
[17:35] <NaSb> আমি ঢাকায় থাকি তাছাড়া আমার কাছেও খুব কম পরিমাণ আছে
[17:35] <AudaciousTUX> joss... amar lagpe ^_^
[17:36] <zaki> he he.
[17:36] <NaSb> ঢাকায় কখনো আসলে স্মরণ কইরেন দিবো ইনশা-আল্লাহ্ zaki
[17:36] <zaki> that one is funny, GNU/LINUX INSIDE
[17:37] <AudaciousTUX> gnu/linux inside ki richard ashar por je onusthan hoilo tokhon nichilen??
[17:39] <zaki> bbl
[18:05] <Tuhin__> facebook killed the old internet
[18:05] <zaki> hmm
[18:05] <Kilos> hi Tuhin__
[18:06] <Tuhin__> i was reading the old chat log...
[18:06] <Tuhin__> hi
[18:06] <zaki> chat log of what?
[18:07] <Tuhin__> this channel
[18:07] <zaki> oh.
[18:07] <Tuhin__> i meant i scrooled up and saw old messages
[18:08] <zaki> oh
[18:09] <zaki> you missed all that
[18:09] <Tuhin__> not really
[18:09] <Tuhin__> was playing with my niece
[18:09] <zaki> how is she? :)
[18:09] <Tuhin__> 3 year old
[18:09] <Tuhin__> she likes playing cat
[18:10] <zaki> he he.
[18:11] <zaki> like my niece. :)
[18:30] <zaki> AudaciousTUX: https://shop.fsf.org/stickers/gnulinux-inside-sticker-pack
[18:30] <Kilos> zaki arent there stickers at spreadubuntu as well
[18:31] <Kilos> i dont think you have to login to be able to download
[18:31] <zaki> i don't know Kilos
[18:31] <zaki> oky i wi'll give a try
[18:45] <zaki> Kilos: http://spreadubuntu.org/files/source/stickers_tux_10.04_12.04_en.svg
[18:46] <Kilos> will check now now zaki just trying to fix sso logins
[18:47] <zaki> oh. great. :)
[18:47] <Kilos> dunno how to delete cookies in opera browser sigh
[18:47] <zaki> he he
[18:48] <zaki> which version?
[18:48] <Kilos> i dunno
[18:49] <Kilos> the latest i spose
[18:49] <Kilos> i run opera and opera-dev
[18:49] <zaki> http://www.allaboutcookies.org/manage-cookies/opera.html
[18:51] <Kilos> im looking here http://www.opera.com/help/tutorials/security/cookies/
[18:52] <zaki> (y)
[19:06] <AudaciousTUX> hei jedi ভাউ
[19:11] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: jedi is a bouncer nick, and is not registered, :p
[19:11] <AudaciousTUX> :|
[19:12] <zaki> AudaciousTUX: http://spreadubuntu.org/files/stickers_tux_10.04_12.04_es.png
[19:12] <AudaciousTUX> dhaka te sticker koi print koray??
[19:12] <zaki> ami khoj nia falaisi ctg te :p
[19:12] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: Neelkhet, :p
[19:12] <AudaciousTUX> :3
[19:13] <pavlushka> AudaciousTUX: supposed to print all indigo, :p
[19:13] <zaki> http://spreadubuntu.org/files/Ubuntubaloonconsloganoriginale500x500.png
[19:13] <pavlushka> QA ddg indigo plant
[19:13] <QA> pavlushka: Huh?
[19:14] <pavlushka> QA define indigo plant
[19:14] <QA> pavlushka: Indigo \In"di*go\, a. Having the color of, pertaining to, or derived from, indigo. [1913 Webster]  {Indigo berry} (Bot.), the fruit of the West Indian shrub {Randia aculeata}, used as a blue dye.  {Indigo bird} (Zool.), a small North American finch ({Cyanospiza cyanea}). The male is indigo blue in color. Called also {indigo bunting}.  {Indigo blue}. (a)
[19:14] <QA> The essential coloring material of commercial indigo, from which it is obtained as a…
[19:14] <AudaciousTUX> somoy ashle group er jonne print korano jabe :3
[19:15] <zaki> QA: ddg four color
[19:15] <QA> zaki: *blink*
[19:15] <zaki> define four color
[19:15] <zaki> uff
[19:15] <zaki> QA: define four color
[19:15] <QA> zaki: I don't have a definition for that.


[00:08] <SunStorm> does xubuntu have cd labels?
[00:11] <zoredache> SunStorm: doesn't look like any where made for 8.04
[00:12] <SunStorm> found it
[00:13] <zoredache> where?
[00:23] <SunStorm> diy marketing, generic
[00:23] <SunStorm> not 8.04 :(
[00:24] <zoredache> ah, I didn't notice the generic one
[00:42] <bassboi> :|
[00:42] <bassboi> i just installed UT2004
[00:42] <bassboi> and it won't run :|
[00:43] <zoredache> why?
[00:45] <bassboi> i have no clue
[00:45] <bassboi> the installer, upon finishing, told me to type 'ut2004' to run it
[00:45] <bassboi> so i tried that in the terminal, command not found
[00:45] <bassboi> i even tried running some of the scripts in the install folder
[00:48] <bassboi> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:49] <zoredache> perhaps you need to install 'libstdc++5'
[00:50] <bassboi> lol
[00:50] <bassboi> doing that now
[00:50] <bassboi> thx :)
[01:34] <unix_infidel> anyone know how big ubuntu-desktop is?
[01:40] <bassboi> like, 500 lbs
[01:40] <bassboi> j/k... i know xfce is like 500MB or so
[01:40] <unix_remote> sorry about that.
[01:40] <unix_remote> anyone happen to know how big xubuntu-desktop is off chance?
[01:41] <bassboi> lemme see
[01:42] <bassboi> i think i remember it being somewhere between 500~600MB
[01:42] <bassboi> maybe less
[01:42] <unix_remote> not the iso, the xubuntu-desktop package.
[01:45] <unix_remote> anyone
[01:45] <unix_remote> ?
[01:48] <Myrtti> the iso takes the usual 650ish M
[01:48] <Myrtti> xubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage
[01:48] <Myrtti> I bet cody would remember the size by heart
[01:48] <unix_remote> Myrtti: i mean the size of the packages associated with the metapackages and all dependencies.
[01:49] <unix_remote> i plan on downloading ubuntu-server and then getting xubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <Myrtti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613294
[01:50] <Myrtti> do you have server hardware?
[01:50] <unix_remote> Myrtti: just do aptitude install xubuntu-desktop again and see how many things it tells you to download.
[01:50] <unix_remote> Myrtti: no, it's a lightweight install.
[01:51] <Myrtti> I think you can get ubuntu-minimal with the normal alternate disk too, so you don't have to use ubuntu-server which is basically (if I understand correctly) customized for server hardware
[01:53] <unix_remote> Myrtti: no, that's not correct.
[01:53] <Myrtti> doing aptitude install xubuntu-desktop on this computer would do...
[01:53] <Myrtti> Need to get 49.6MB of archives. After unpacking 229MB will be used.
[01:53] <Myrtti> but I've got gnome already
[01:53] <unix_remote> Myrtti: good times.
[01:53] <Myrtti> so...
[01:53]  * Myrtti shrugs
[01:53] <unix_remote> Myrtti: ya, an extra 100MB or so isnt a big deal.
[01:54] <unix_remote> i wonder how big an ubuntu-server install is.
[01:58] <bassboi> i wasn't talking of the iso
[01:58] <bassboi> >:(
[02:19] <nubuntu> has anybody else had a recent rash of pop up windows in firefox on ubuntu or xubuntu?  i just closed out a survey window by some voicefive outfit, and earlier today some site popped up and clicked itself thru till it was telling me it was scanning my system for viruses... what up with this?
[04:03] <hi-z> hi, does this channel cover the xubuntu for xbox?
[05:23] <bassboi> jingle bells
[05:50] <chao1> HI. I have an issue. I am trying to mount a hdd that is in an external enclosure. I have tried lsusb and sudo fdisk -l
[05:51] <chao1> I have not seen any mention of the partitions on the other device. Only the partitions that are on the IDE cable are listed
[05:51] <chao1> any thoghts?
[05:51] <bassboi> it doesn't auto-mount when you connect it?
[05:53] <chao1> no. I have issues on the partitions. I am trying to mount -o ro so that I can get the files off that I need and I think that the filesystem is messed up
[05:54] <chao1> I need to know which /dev/sdxx to type in so that I can mount it read only
[06:22] <bassboi> hey what does "vme" in lshw mean?
[06:22] <bassboi> virtual machine environment... if i guess right?
[06:24] <bassboi> ah nvm, virtual mode extensions
[06:25] <keram> hello
[06:25] <keram> i am trying to install xubuntu 8.04 but it is failing at the keyboard layout step
[06:25] <bassboi> what exactly you mean by failing
[06:26] <keram> it says that this step failed and exited with an error code '2'
[06:28] <keram> more specifically: "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 2..."
[06:29] <bassboi> wait a bit, someone may be able to help you more than I can
[06:29] <keram> ok thanks
[06:30] <mean-jean> i'm having trouble booting a live cd on an old HP. It gets to a bootloader screen, where i choose to run or install, and then goes to boot, and says "buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0."
[06:32] <mean-jean> I'm thinking it's a hardware issue, I think the harddrive is bad anyway, it wouldn't boot into XP
[07:29] <nubuntu> mean-jean, where you from approximately?  florida by any chance?
[07:29] <nubuntu> oh, dang, mean-jean left the building
[07:31] <nubuntu> can anyone help me with an ecommerce question?  if you are working on a new website, would you normally build that site directly within your webhosting services servers? or would you build it locally on your own computer, and then upload everything when ready to publish?  any thoughts?
[07:41] <indra> good mornign
[07:41] <indra> morning
[07:41] <indra> does anybody know how writte rules for makefile
[07:55] <keram> indra, there are lots of resources on the net. heres the first hit on google: http://www.opussoftware.com/tutorial/TutMakefile.htm
[09:59] <marc> hi@akk
[09:59] <marc> ll
[10:44] <lesshaste> how would I turn off the screensaver?
[10:44] <bassboi> applications ~> settings ~> settings manager ~> screen saver
[10:45] <TheSheep> lesshaste: you can also just kill the gnome-screensaver process in system monitor
[10:45] <bassboi> uncheck "activate screensaver when computer is idle"
[10:46] <lesshaste> hmm.. it seems to be off already! Let me check something
[10:47] <bassboi> i'm wondering if nvidia ever sorted out the issue with 8xxx and 9xxx series GPUs
[10:48] <ablomen> bassboi, my 8something works fine, havnt had a problem
[10:52] <bassboi> ah, great
[10:52] <bassboi> ty
[10:52] <bassboi> i've heard that 2D performance was abyssmal
[10:53] <ablomen> hmm weird, must be one of the lucky ones, the pc that i have a 8xxx in is still running gutsy, and it always worked fine
[11:00] <bassboi> ok awesome
[11:03] <bassboi> 8600gt it is then
[11:44] <Quest_> is there a way to erase data from ram while system is runing?
[11:47] <TheSheep> Quest_: what do you mean?
[11:48] <Quest_> physical ram. del data
[11:48] <TheSheep> Quest_: usually each process is in control of the memory it has allocated
[11:48] <Quest_> ~$ sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mem
[11:48] <Quest_> bash: /dev/mem: Permission denied
[11:49] <TheSheep> Quest_: what are you actually trying to do?
[11:53] <arf`> you can't overwrite the ram in use, so the only ram you can erase is the ram not in use, so you just have to use the free ram :)
[11:53] <arf`> Quest_: ie opening a big big file, or something like that
[11:54] <bassboi> system overload
[11:55] <arf`> huhu
[12:17] <the-erm> I'm having an odd problem.  I'm setting up hot keys via applications->settings->keyboard  I have 3 scripts pause.sh/prev.sh/next.sh
[12:17] <the-erm> pause.sh executes, but next.sh and prev.sh do not.
[12:17] <the-erm> It's weird.
[12:18] <the-erm> I can execute the scripts ./next.sh and ./prev.sh (they work)
[12:18] <cody-somerville> You might have to set the executable permission. :]
[12:19] <the-erm> Like I said ./next.sh and ./prev.sh work :)
[12:19] <the-erm> there is' an x bit.
[12:19] <the-erm> the file in ~/.config/xfce4/shortcuts/ even has the right stuff in it.
[12:23] <the-erm> most perplexing in deed.
[12:26] <cody-somerville> Maybe we'd be able to help more if you told us a bit more about your problem
[12:27] <the-erm> cody-somerville: What don't you understand?
[12:28] <the-erm> next.sh, and prev.sh are not getting executed when I press the "next" and the "prev" button on the remote :) that's pretty much it.
[12:28] <the-erm> Pause oddly enough works.
[12:29] <cody-somerville> the-erm, can you pastebin the related config files?
[12:29] <the-erm> sure
[12:30] <the-erm> http://pastebin.ca/1167870
[12:34] <the-erm> As near as I can tell that's the file that's being used.
[12:35] <cody-somerville> the-erm, can you change the pause button to execute the next script?
[12:35] <cody-somerville> the-erm, lets see what that does
[12:35] <the-erm> ok
[12:37] <the-erm> works
[12:37] <the-erm> Well it executes the next script.
[12:37] <the-erm> It's like something else is catching the event.
[12:41] <the-erm> I'm going to check out gnome-control-center and see if something is set in there.
[12:44] <cody-somerville> hmmm
[12:48] <the-erm> I think a setting in gnome or kde is interfering.
[12:49] <the-erm> Time to do a major grep.
[12:56] <the-erm> Maybe if I restart X ...
[12:58] <TheSheep> famous last words...
[13:00] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, where are the autostart config files again?
[13:00] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: local in ~/.config/autostart, global in /etc/xdg/autostart
[13:02] <cody-somerville> Thanks
[13:03] <cody-somerville> I'm wondering how much of a performance gain we'd get from letting Thunar run something when printers connect instead of having that python printer config applet running all the time.
[13:04] <cody-somerville> Oh, I guess it also shows current print jobs and stuff which I'd miss
[13:04] <IronJan> hi. I try to use xfce to anage my desktop. but everytime i logout and login again, it is managed by gnome. i already tried to use the option "let xfce manage your workspace" (don't know the the exact English label of this option), but it did not help. it is reset by loggin out. can anyone help me, to get xfce to manage my Desktop?     PS: Panels are ok, only my desktop is managed by gnome
[13:18] <TheSheep> IronJan: kill nautilus and save the session when logging out
[13:21] <IronJan> ok thanks a lot. it worked^^
[15:00] <Kardoso> Hi
[15:01] <Kardoso> Is wubi works with Vista?
[15:06] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[16:58] <allu1> hi
[16:59] <wols> allu1: dpkg -l|grep wine
[16:59] <allu1> do i put that in terminal?
[17:00] <allu1> wols: nothing happened
[17:00] <wols> no wine installed
[17:00] <allu1> yes
[17:01] <allu1> i have installed it
[17:01] <allu1> but i can't find it
[17:02] <allu1> +my xubuntu can't shut down it self if i sost klik shut down :(
[17:02] <allu1> and i can't get  flash instaled :(
[17:02] <allu1> or soundcard to works
[17:03] <Myrtti> so is this xubuntu or eeexubuntu or anything else odd?
[17:03] <allu1> or irssi or eny othere :(
[17:03] <allu1> i download this from xubuntus web site its hardy i quess
[17:04] <allu1> also might be that i installed it on dell optiplex gx 1
[17:04] <allu1> not very new  computer :P
[17:04] <allu1> and how du i make some short of sorcuts or  something like that on my desktop?
[17:05] <allu1> *do
[17:17] <zoredache> right click on the desktop and choose create launcher
[17:18] <allu1> ty
[17:33] <wols> allu1: if dpkg -l doesn
[17:33] <wols> allu1: if dpkg -l doesn't find it you haven't installed it. not with a .deb and it's not supported any other way
[18:34] <chris_debian> Hi, all.
[18:35] <chris_debian> I currently have a Ubuntu install.  The more I use Gnome, the more I hate it.  I love xfce.  Can anyone tell me what I need to apt-get and/ or change in my /etc/apt/sources.list, so that I can turn my box into a Xubuntu one?
[18:35] <chris_debian> Thanks,
[18:35] <chris_debian> Chris.
[18:36] <chris_debian> Missing text: The more I use Gnome, the more I hate it......
[18:37] <wols> xubuntu-desktop
[19:03] <zoredache> chris_debian: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <chris_debian> Cool.  I'll do that, now.
[20:54] <mn> how do I upgrade to FF3 in Xubuntu 8.04.1
[20:54] <mn> ?
[20:55] <zoredache> in 8.04.1 ff3 should be the default
[20:55] <mn> no its 2
[20:55] <mn> i downloaded 3 for linux and i can figure out how to extract it
[20:55] <mn> cant*
[20:55] <zoredache> you shouldn't install a version you downloaded... you should use a version from the repository
[20:56] <mn> repository? (sorry im a linux n00b)
[20:57] <zoredache> to make life easier many distros give you a tool to automatically install tons of prepackaged software.  In the case of ubuntu/xubuntu you use something like synaptic or apt-get
[20:58] <zoredache> mn: so if you run 'firefox -v' in a terminal what does it say?
[20:59] <mn> I dunno.  Before lemme ask if i can even do this on a livecd?
[21:00] <zoredache> you can, but it won't stick around...
[21:00] <zoredache> if you are using the livecd you DO have firefox 3
[21:01] <mn> I downloaded the .iso and burned it. i didnt order it.  you sure i got 3?
[21:02] <zoredache> 99.5% sure
[21:03] <mn> k. ill boot up from the cd and type firefox -v
[21:03] <bassboi> LOL
[21:03] <zoredache> or look at help->about
[21:03] <bassboi> * mn has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]"
[21:04] <zoredache> he is probably confused because the firefox buttons don't look like the buttons in windows
[21:05] <bassboi> i agree
[21:33] <mn> ok, so I do have ff3.  It doesnt have tools -> options like in ff3 for windows.  What's the equivalent?
[21:33] <TheSheep> mn: edit->preferences
[21:33] <TheSheep> mn: for consistency with all other apps in linux :)
[21:34] <mn> ah, thanks.  That's exactly what I was lookin for :)
[21:42] <mn> whats the chance of corrupting other data when partitioning and installing?
[21:42] <TheSheep> make a backup
[21:43] <TheSheep> there are two kinds of people: those who make backups and those who will be making backups
[21:46] <zoredache> heh... thats great...
[21:46] <mn> Lol that seems like a lot of work though
[21:46] <Gnarfoz> heh
[21:46] <Gnarfoz> certainly sounds true enough
[21:47] <mn> is the chance of failure really that great?
[21:47] <zoredache> mn: making backups should be easy... either save up for a spare external hard drive, or use one of the internet based services
[21:48] <zoredache> mn: the chance of failure is directly related to the technical ability and level of linux experience of the user
[21:48] <mn> yeah
[21:48] <mn> i better do a backup then
[21:48] <TheSheep> mn: it's not that the chance is so great, it's that the cost is so huge
[21:49] <TheSheep> once it happens to you, the chance is irrelevant :)
[21:49] <mn> lol i im not bad with computers but my linux experience almost doesnt exist
[21:49] <mn> that's true
[21:50] <mn> can i just make a .iso image of my C:\ and then burn that to a disk to backup my computer
[21:52] <TheSheep> but your disk doesn't use an iso filesystem
[21:52] <TheSheep> you can make an image of it, though, but it's probably pretty large
[21:54] <bassboi> are you tryin to backup your windows install?
[21:55] <TheSheep> mn: just backup your data, not the things you can recreate easily
[21:56] <mn> well i don't have my boot disks for windows anymore
[21:56] <TheSheep> mn: how large is your disk?
[21:57] <mn> Hard drive is like 55 GB.  lemme check though
[21:57] <TheSheep> heh, that a dozem dvd disks :)
[21:57] <TheSheep> dozen
[21:58] <mn> well only 14.19 GB are used
[21:58] <TheSheep> that's just 4 disks
[22:00] <TheSheep> mn: maybe you have an usb drive or something?
[22:00] <mn> 1 GB
[22:00] <TheSheep> or an extra hdd you could backup to
[22:02] <mn> nope just a 1 GB USB drive
[22:03] <TheSheep> well, backup your important data, I guess you can get the windows disks from somewhere if it damages something, the chance is small
[22:04] <mn> Well i got 4 700 MB cds and a 1 gig usb drive so i can do that
[22:20] <Bytor4232> Quick question
[22:20] <Bytor4232> how do I get rid of that keyring annoyance?
[22:22] <zoredache> run a network without encryption?  :|
[22:22] <Bytor4232> I could do that at my house, but that won't fly at my corporate locations.
[22:23] <Bytor4232> sheesh
[22:24] <Bytor4232> I'm such a dork
[22:24] <Bytor4232> maybe I should check "automatically unlock this keyring
[22:25] <bassboi> a dork
[23:03] <mn> is there a way to search for a file by name like ctrl + f in windows?
[23:09] <favro> mn: in thunar?
[23:10] <mn> it doesnt matter.  i just need to see if i have a certain application
[23:11] <mn> thunar would probably be best though
[23:12] <favro> mn: I use locate in a terminal - locate "file"
[23:12] <favro> mn: if it is a new file then - sudo updatedb && locate "file"
[23:23] <mn> where can i get a c++ ide like Dev-C++ that will compile for linux?
[23:25] <zoredache> there are lots available... startup add/remove and choose your favorite...
[23:26] <zoredache> I mostly do webdev.  On the few occasions when I need to do something with c/c++ I just use a text editor...
[23:37] <mn> i can't find anything on add/remove
[23:38] <mn> nevermind
[23:38] <mn> i got anjuta ide


[01:03] <OMGmate> Hi All, after imaging the microSD and first boot I got to the desktop and did a software update. Got an error saying I needed to delete 4.074kb to do the update. Any help on this?
[01:04] <sixwheeledbeast> shantorn: been a while, but should simply be install windows then install ubuntu via a live image it will detect windows installation and install along side
[01:04] <sixwheeledbeast> OMGmate: this RPi?
[01:07] <OMGmate> Yes.
[01:08] <OMGmate> Can I gpart the mSD while in the OS?
[01:09] <OMGmate> Or resize the two parts.?
[01:12] <OMGmate> The /root is initially set to 63Mb on a 8GB mSD. Can I reset it  by a script in the img.tz file?
[01:12] <sixwheeledbeast> you cant change the size of a mounted partition. Have you accidentally udist-upgrade instead of update?
[01:12] <OMGmate> Nope.
[01:13] <sixwheeledbeast> so you are on 16.04LTS?
[01:13] <OMGmate> Yep.
[01:14] <sixwheeledbeast> is common that people upgrade to 17.10 and have issues
[01:14] <OMGmate> Downloaded it from the RPI download area about 6 hrs ago.
[01:15] <sixwheeledbeast> only 16.04 LTS is supported for RPi. Ok. i am surprised you have filled your space up from updates.
[01:17] <OMGmate> Even when I tried to uncheck some of the updates (about 100Mb) it still compained about the 4.073Mb needed to be removed. Total space in /root was 23Mb used.
[01:18] <sixwheeledbeast> what does df -h show?
[01:22] <OMGmate> sorry. Not available now. I looked around and tried to find a tool that would allow me to resize /root or show me just what in /root I could delete without hammering the OS. Anything I can do to with the image to have it reset /root to 100Mb on initial resizing after first boot?
[01:22] <sixwheeledbeast> Looks like they are recommending 9GB of space minimum on the site now. So you may run into issues with a small size card.
[01:24] <OMGmate> Gotcha! have a 16Gb mSD. will try that tomorrow. Thx for all the help, have a great nite.
[01:24] <sixwheeledbeast> the installer should partition the card for you to use all of it. this was implemented in 16.04.02LTS I believe.
[01:24] <sixwheeledbeast> np,
[01:24] <sixwheeledbeast> ty
[01:25] <OMGmate> It does part the card but always with 63Mb for /root and the rest for the other part.
[01:26] <OMGmate> Gone
[03:09] <Belial`> anyone know if compiz will continue to be  supported/updated now that ubuntu is using gnome shell?
[03:14] <TaZeR> you can continue to use compiz with ubuntu-mate if you want, it has nothing to do with ubuntu's switch from unity to gnome shell
[03:15] <Belial`> i know it'll still be there. i was just curious if it would still be patched
[03:15] <TaZeR> it will keep receving upstream updates from compiz its not related to unity or ubuntu
[03:16] <Belial`> and if, eventually, ubuntu mate would drop it because lack of upstream support.
[03:16] <TaZeR> unless you are confusing compiz for unity?
[03:16] <Belial`> sorry, i was under the impression ubuntu was maintaing compiz.
[03:17] <Belial`> maintaining*
[07:17] <marseille> bonjour
[09:00] <ubuntu-mate> Twinkelstar
[13:05] <andywhite> hi guys ubuntu mate never requested a root password when I installed it what is is ?
[13:06] <andywhite> how do I reset it ?
[13:26] <hasith> hi
[13:26] <diogenes_> hi
[17:06] <CoderEurope> Looking for this applet : https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/volume-control-applet/15795
[17:39] <mate|22408> kipasa
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[20:43] <mate|piterke> Witam szacowne grono
[20:44] <mate|piterke> mam takie malutkie pytanko czy pomoze mi ktos z Was spolszczyc linuksa lite
[23:12] <CoderEurope> sup ?
[23:45] <CoderEurope> hey PaulW2U o/


[07:15] <mup> Bug #1842872 opened: Error during adding and commission identical UUID <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842872>
[09:25] <mup> Bug #1842896 opened: [VM Provisioning] If constraints: zones=<ZONE> causes Juju to provision new VMs on same node of correct zone in disrespect of overcommit restrictions <juju:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842896>
[09:28] <mup> Bug #1842896 changed: [VM Provisioning] If constraints: zones=<ZONE> causes Juju to provision new VMs on same node of correct zone in disrespect of overcommit restrictions <juju:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842896>
[09:31] <mup> Bug #1842896 opened: [VM Provisioning] If constraints: zones=<ZONE> causes Juju to provision new VMs on same node of correct zone in disrespect of overcommit restrictions <juju:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842896>
[09:34] <mup> Bug #1842896 changed: [VM Provisioning] If constraints: zones=<ZONE> causes Juju to provision new VMs on same node of correct zone in disrespect of overcommit restrictions <juju:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842896>
[09:37] <mup> Bug #1842896 opened: [VM Provisioning] If constraints: zones=<ZONE> causes Juju to provision new VMs on same node of correct zone in disrespect of overcommit restrictions <juju:New> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842896>


[08:03] <Burgundavia> ajmitch: you got me some auth tool code yet?
[08:04] <ajmitch> sorry, why am I giving it to you?
[08:04] <ajmitch> it's ogra that is needing it
[08:04] <Burgundavia> cause it would make my life easier :)
[08:04] <ajmitch> heh
[08:04] <ajmitch> I'm doing some UI remodelling right now
[08:04] <Burgundavia> just badgering you to make you certain you get it done and get your money
[08:05] <ajmitch> I've been working on it these last few days
[08:05] <Burgundavia> rock
[08:06] <ajmitch> some important things fixed, like not asking questions when config file/preseed is used
[08:06] <Burgundavia> so it can be scripted via kickstart?
[08:07] <ajmitch> yeah, that's one of the more important things to do, since ogra will roll an edubuntu-network-auth-client package that handles stuff with debconf
[08:07] <Burgundavia> that will rock
[08:08] <ajmitch> doing php all day makes me appreciate python so much more
[08:08] <Burgundavia> I have some tcl code if you want
[08:08] <Burgundavia> and then I learnt of a new abortion at work
[08:08] <ajmitch> I'd rather find some cyanide
[08:08] <Burgundavia> we have forked cups and added some print control features
[08:08] <Burgundavia> in c++
[08:08] <ajmitch> oh dear
[08:09] <ajmitch> template madness?
[08:09] <Burgundavia> all because we need one stupid function
[08:09] <Burgundavia> I think that might be it
[08:09] <ajmitch> what a waste of time
[08:11] <Burgundavia> oh joy
[08:11] <Burgundavia> now the company wants to deduct money off our paycheque if we lose a receipt
[08:11] <Burgundavia> too bad that is illegal
[08:14] <ajmitch> hah
[08:14] <ajmitch> isn't it fun working for them?
[08:14] <Burgundavia> they are so stupid sometimes
[08:14] <Burgundavia> but lots of companies do dumb things
[08:15] <ajmitch> sadly
[05:26] <tmh__> how does GDM use a different PAM setup from a login on e.g. tty1?
[05:26] <tmh__> I can login fine with my winbind account from the console, but gdm refuses


[00:27] <Unit193> https://sigma.unit193.net/source/pasystray_0.5.2-0ubuntu1.dsc was the dsc.
[07:05] <dholbach> good morning


[12:50] <tseng> wow beagle actually works 100% out of the box
[12:54] <ajmitch_> is user_xattr set, or does it not need to be now?
[12:55] <tseng> its not a hard requirement now
[12:55] <ajmitch_> great
[12:55] <tseng> its more like "you really want this"
[12:55] <tseng> it falls back on sqlite and is slow
[12:56] <ajmitch_> might be good to put something in README.Debian or even NEWS.Debian about that
[12:56] <tseng> well it soon wont be my package anymore
[12:56] <tseng> we get to complain to someone else
[12:56] <ajmitch_> you'rr going to use the debian package?
[12:57] <tseng> sure, after a few swings of the cluebat
[12:57] <tseng> oh how about that, he just responded
[12:57] <ajmitch_> hopefully he can put it under group maintenance
[12:58] <ajmitch_> or at least in svn
[12:58] <tseng> yeah he mentioned putting it in arch for him and me
[12:58] <tseng> i will propose pkg-mono
[01:01] <tseng> oh you did mail him the gaim fix right?
[01:03] <ajmitch_> no I haven't sorry
[01:03] <tseng> ok
[01:03] <ajmitch_> will file that as a bug
[01:03] <tseng> hm right
[01:03] <tseng> debugs baffles me
[01:03] <ajmitch_> I've had a few years to get used to it
[01:03] <tseng> when is a web interface not a web interface?
[01:04] <ajmitch_> when it doesn't let you interface with it
[01:04] <tseng> a: dbs
[01:05] <tseng> hm i thought id fixed f-spot in ubuntu
[01:05] <tseng> i guess not
[01:06] <tseng> i should just sync yours
[01:06] <tseng> that is uploaded, right?
[01:08] <tseng> mailed
[01:08] <ajmitch_> yes, thanks
[01:08] <ajmitch_> was going to ask elmo for sync
[01:08] <ajmitch_> got distracted (again)
[01:09] <tseng> is it wrong that i want a *second* $800 lcd?
[01:10] <ajmitch_> no, it's wrong that you have *one* & I don't
[01:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, where did you get those beauties?
[01:10] <ajmitch_> although I do have a 21" & a 17" crt on my desk at home
[01:10] <tseng> Burgundavia: apple.com
[01:10] <ajmitch_> dual-head goodness
[01:10] <Burgundavia> tseng, lucky bastard
[01:12] <tseng> i dont know about that
[01:13] <tseng> i do have to work for it :)
[01:13] <Burgundavia> right
[01:14] <ajmitch_> only new hardware I've bought recently is a phone
[01:47] <tseng> im feeling pretty good about breezy now that ive just done a clean install
[01:47] <tseng> pretty much everything is working
[01:47] <tseng> even my stuff
[01:47] <tseng> :P
[01:48] <ajmitch_> that's a good sign
[01:48] <ajmitch_> even universe is in a fairly good shape, which is a surprise :)
[01:48] <tseng> i wish i knew what to do with mythtv
[01:48] <tseng> i miss it
[02:02] <Burgundavia> geez, the buildlogs are all green
[02:03] <Burgundavia> you think we actually produce working code around here or something
[02:14] <hub> " -automated control managment... remove this please ;)"
[02:14] <hub> what does that mean ?
[02:14] <hub> I'm not allowed to regenarte control from control.in ?
[03:02] <ajmitch_> hub: yes, that's what it says, a number of people don't like control.in, and others, like debian gnome team, use it a lot
[03:29] <bmonty> is there other things besides the cdbs build-depends that the control.in buys you?
[03:29] <hub> well, that's what the cdbs tells to use
[03:29] <hub> btw, I was just asking
[03:30] <ajmitch_> bmonty: for debian, the Uploaders field
[03:30] <bmonty> hub: I'm curious myself :)  but it doesn't sound like control.in really gets you much, is that why people don't like it?
[03:31] <bmonty> seems like it would make the build process a little more complicated without much gain
[03:31] <hub> well, no really
[03:31] <ajmitch_> it's not nearly as evil as modifying debian/rules at build time ;)
[03:32] <bmonty> who modifies the rules at build time?
[03:32] <ajmitch_> noone sane
[03:32] <ajmitch_> and I doubt it would work
[03:32] <bmonty> BTW, for breezy packages is cdbs or debhelper prefered?
[03:33] <ajmitch_> bmonty: what do you mean, 'or'?
[03:33] <ajmitch_> cdbs uses debhelper for a lot of tasks
[03:33] <bmonty> ok....to use or not to use cdbs :)
[03:33] <ajmitch_> depends on the package, but we recommend using cdbs once you understand what is going on :)
[03:34] <bmonty> I like the fact that I don't have to create long lists of debhelper scripts in the rules file
[03:36] <ajmitch_> yes, btu it does mean that you can package stuff without knowing what is going on underneath
[03:36] <ajmitch_> which can be dangerous
[03:37] <bmonty> you could say the same thing of debhelper....I felt that way the first time I messed with it
[03:39] <ajmitch_> that's why some AMs in debian require their NM candidates to package shomething without debhelper
[03:39] <ajmitch_> my typing has really gone downhill lately :)
[04:35] <ajmitch_> nasty, someone still having issues with bugzilla #6805 (muine/ppc)
[04:37] <ajmitch_> tseng: I'll test it out on the ppc box at home & see if it's still valid
[05:07] <sol> hello
[05:07] <sol> running hoary amd64, installed seagate sata, fdisk freezes
[05:07] <sol> something about...  deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO
[05:08] <sol> is there an existing kernel that will allow me to use the sata with hoary?
[05:08] <sol> kernel pkg that is
[05:09] <crimsun> sol: default Hoary kernel should, unless your SATA chipset is too new. In that case you can try recompiling Breezy's kernel. (Btw, this is better asked in #ubuntu.)
[05:10] <sol> i did ask in ubuntu, sorry
[05:10] <sol> thanx
[05:10] <crimsun> np, I've only now reattached.
[05:11] <sol> crimsun: is breezy's kernel a deb package?
[05:11] <sol> oh
[05:11] <sol> breezy the ubuntu release?
[05:12] <Lathiat> indeed
[05:12] <sol> should i only grab the kernel? or go forward with distro upgrade?
[05:12] <Lathiat> well
[05:13] <Lathiat> ... an upgrade might work ;p
[05:13] <sol> lol
[05:13] <sol> right
[05:13] <Lathiat> fdisk shoudlnt break with that error tho
[05:13] <Lathiat> thats just a warning
[05:13] <Lathiat> not an error
[05:13] <Lathiat> tried cfdisk?
[05:13] <sol> it never breaks
[05:13] <sol> that is dmesg
[05:13] <Lathiat> you said it freezes
[05:13] <sol> cfdisk and parted same thing
[05:13] <sol> freezes yes
[05:13] <Lathiat> its not from that
[05:16] <sol> may i paste two lines here?
[05:19] <Lathiat> sure
[05:23] <sol> sorry
[05:23] <sol> here is the dmesg line upon parted attempt
[05:23] <sol> Aug 14 17:03:58 localhost kernel: program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it
[05:23] <sol> to SG_IO
[05:23] <sol> er, messages
[05:23] <Lathiat> like i siad, its just a deprecation warning
[05:24] <sol> there are no other meaningful messages i can find other than ata1 being busy at shutdown
[05:24] <sol> etc...
[05:24] <Lathiat> well that sucks :)
[05:24] <sol> lol
[05:24] <Lathiat> sure the disk isnt bad or something?
[05:24] <sol> i have no way of checking really
[05:24] <sol> brand new
[06:06] <chillywilly> bah, old openvpn package in hoary
[06:07] <crimsun> hoary-backports should have 2.0-3 built from breezy
[06:07] <crimsun> (yes, I know 2.0-4 is in sid)
[06:08] <chillywilly> hmmm, I have backports added thoguh
[06:10] <chillywilly> oh, backports does not cover my architecture
[06:10] <chillywilly> will have to rebuild the package anyway
[06:11] <chillywilly> this is a dual amd64 box :)
[06:14] <chillywilly> 2.0-3 should be good enough ;)
[07:04] <chillywilly> hey, what version can I give a package that I built from sid sources for my own personal use so that if breezy gets the newer version it will then be upgraded?
[07:06] <crimsun> 2.0-4 from sid?
[07:07] <chillywilly> yea :)
[07:12] <crimsun> try 2.0-4~3ubuntu1
[07:13] <chillywilly> why 4~3...?
[07:14] <crimsun> so -4 is higher than what's currently in breezy (-3) [presuming 2.0-4 goes in OR 2.0-4ubuntuX goes in] , but your local (-3ubuntu1) is higher than what's in hoary
[07:15] <crimsun> at the same time it attempts to retain the original sid versioning
[07:15] <crimsun> you don't have to mark it ubuntu1; you can use chillywilly1 or whatever
[07:16] <chillywilly> ok
[08:23] <sivang> hello everyone
[08:28] <cat> hello sivang
[08:29] <sivang> hey cat , how is it going?
[08:30] <cat> here fixing my bugs on bx
[08:34] <cat> and you'r self
[09:27] <HostingGeek> hmmm
[09:27] <HostingGeek> who said they will fix x-g
[09:27] <HostingGeek> oh yea
[09:27] <HostingGeek> me
[09:27] <HostingGeek> /slap HostingGeek
[09:38] <ajmitch_> tseng: malone #1770 looks odd, as muine has deps on mono-classlib-1.0, perhaps not tight enough?
[10:49] <\sh> ogra: pingeling
[10:50] <ogra> pongelung
[10:50] <cat> darn it,
[10:50] <\sh> ogra: do u have any objections for having special not official main supported kernel packages in universe?
[10:51] <\sh> ogra: what I'm thinking about is having kernel images for different computer models, with patches applied, which will never make it into main
[10:51] <\sh> or vanilla kernel
[10:52] <ogra> \sh, please contact the kernel team about that... i.e. fabbione :)
[10:53] <ogra> i fthey have no objections its fine with me... but remember the many people that installd the totally broken bitkeeper snapshot fromuniverse in hoary
[10:53] <ogra> just because it was 2.11
[10:53] <cat> hey ogra listen i'm a bitchx developer is there any way i can take the bx packaged on ubuntu?
[10:54] <\sh> ogra: well..actually I'm thinking about providing special kernels for installation media and running kernels for things like these crappy toshiba drivers
[10:54] <\sh> cat: we don't know something like maintainers...in ubuntu. so if you want to change something on the package...please do and provide patches, become a motu and help us
[10:55] <ogra> cat, you are upstream maintainer or debian maintainer for it ?
[10:56] <cat> i'm just a bitchx developer ogra
[10:56] <ogra> so upstream ...
[10:56] <cat> yeah
[10:57] <ogra> and the 1.0 version we ship is to old ?
[10:57] <cat> naw
[10:58] <ogra> hmm, then i dont understand the question i fear
[10:58] <cat> well i wanted it to take over the bitchx packaged for ubuntu but i fear someone has it (:
[10:58] <\sh> ogra: he wants to maintain the package in ubuntu
[10:58] <\sh> cat: again...we don't have maintainership in ubuntu..
[10:58] <ogra> cat, we dont have personalized packages
[10:59] <cat> aj
[10:59] <cat> *oh
[10:59] <ogra> cat, we do everything as a team... even if some have their favorite packages ....
[10:59] <cat> oh ic
[11:00] <cat> damn there's nothing i can do on ubuntu =)
[11:00] <cat> hehe
[11:02] <\sh> cat: we have enough to get u working for ubuntu :)
[11:02] <cat> such as \sh ?
[11:02] <ogra> and indeed you could maintain the bitchX package.... (if ubuntu specific changes are required)
[11:04] <ogra> we all have ur favorite packages nobody else would touch without asking... but unlike debian you dont get a flamewar if you really touch someone elses stuff :)
[11:04] <cat> true,
[11:04] <cat> well my main goal is to worked, on ubuntu doing something
[11:04] <cat> but i still haven't find anything
[11:05] <siretart> cat: if you think, something needs to be done on the ubuntu bitchx package, just go on and improve it. we appreciate every contribution :)
[11:05] <siretart> hi folks
[11:06] <ogra> cat: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo
[11:06] <ogra> (assuming thats up to date)
[11:06] <cat> siretart: well there's nothing to be changed (:
[11:06] <ogra> morning siretart
[11:07] <siretart> hi ogra
[11:07] <ogra> cat, look at "How to help / Ongoing tasks"
[11:21] <herve> hello
[11:29] <\sh> herve: nice to see u :)
[11:29] <herve> yeah, sometimes my life gets back to normal :-)
[11:29] <herve> though it's hard to type with a cat in your arms
[11:34] <herve> ho, there will be a xorg 6.9
[11:34] <herve> I though 7.0 was the next one
[11:37] <Mithrandir> 6.9 and 7.0 are equivalent, except for the build system
[11:37] <Mithrandir> 6.9 is the last monolithic
[11:37] <herve> ho, we really are heading the 7.0
[11:40] <\sh> ok...lets try to build something in this baby
[11:43] <jsgotangco> ooohh portege toy...
[11:44] <ajmitch_> jsgotangco: you got your laptop now?
[11:44] <ajmitch_> or is it still held up in customs? :)
[11:45] <jsgotangco> oh i love those customs people
[11:45] <\sh> jsgotangco: what u r getting?
[11:45] <ajmitch_> heh
[11:45] <jsgotangco> im getting the Tecra M2 tommorow
[11:46] <ajmitch_> nice
[11:46] <jsgotangco> ajmitch_, are you getting one as well?
[11:46] <Treenaks> I'm getting "a HP", but I don't know which one yet
[11:46] <ajmitch_> jsgotangco: dell inspiron 710m
[11:46] <ajmitch_> that's what I heard, anyway
[11:47] <jsgotangco> i think the dells are a bit delayed
[11:47] <ajmitch_> 510m, sorry
[11:48] <ajmitch_> wouldn't surprise me if they were
[11:48] <jsgotangco> nice review on the 510m though
[11:50] <ajmitch_> yep
[11:52] <Treenaks> I have no idea what to expect yet :)
[11:53] <Treenaks> so I've started filling the template for my old 600MHz craptop :)
[11:53] <ajmitch_> heh
[11:53] <Treenaks> \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AsusL7300G
[11:54] <herve> I have a 386SX 16 MHz, now beat this :-)
[11:54] <Treenaks> herve: that won't run ubuntu afaik
[11:54] <ajmitch_> herve: laptop? :)
[11:55] <herve> portable at least :-)
[11:55] <jsgotangco> CGA graphics? :)
[11:55] <herve> no vga, but gray
[11:55] <Treenaks> MCGA 8)
[11:55] <jsgotangco> talk about vintage on the wiki :)
[11:56] <herve> I see this: "the laptop when I didn't even know how to walk"
[11:56] <Treenaks> herve: my parents have one of these: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5705/p70.html
[11:56] <Treenaks> herve: and one of these: http://www.computercloset.org/IBMPortablePC.htm
[11:57] <herve> ho no, it's not that old
[11:57] <Treenaks> herve: then you're too young ;)
[11:57] <jsgotangco> we used to have a portable trs 80 then
[11:57] <herve> no I exagerated, I don't even know its year
[11:58] <ajmitch_> Treenaks: I want one!
[11:59] <ajmitch_> ooh, nice usplash
[12:00] <\sh> ajmitch_: usplash? if this is the thing what I'm looking at when I'm booting up the actual dev kernel...then it's shiddy ,-)
[12:01] <ajmitch_> \sh: it's a start ;)
[12:01] <ajmitch_> hmm
[12:01] <ajmitch_> laptop not booting, I wonder what's wrong now...
[12:01] <ajmitch_> ah, 180 days without fsck
[12:02] <\sh> ajmitch_: we should have something like the gentoo splash...this was really nice...and a windowed vga console ,-)
[12:02] <ajmitch_> \sh: and we're limited to vga16fb, of course :)
[12:02] <Treenaks> ajmitch_: what? an IBM Portable?
[12:02] <ajmitch_> Treenaks: sure
[12:03] <\sh> ajmitch_: change it ,-)
[12:03] <ajmitch_> \sh: change what part?
[12:05] <ajmitch_> yay, xkb complaints on login
[12:10] <tseng> ajmitch_: luis did the same thing
[12:10] <tseng> ajmitch_: there was some kind of upgrade issue
[12:10] <ajmitch_> tseng: right, that's a worry
[12:10] <ajmitch_> since the Depends look fine
[12:10] <tseng> i just did a clean install yesterday and its fine
[12:11] <jsgotangco> brb
[12:23] <tseng> is there a known issue with no sound in clean breezy installs, btw?
[12:29] <tseng> ajmitch_: sounds like beagle et al will be in baz to start
[12:30] <tseng> ajmitch_: he is really excited about giving us power to branch and merge
[12:30] <ajmitch_> yeah, baz is pretty nice for that
[12:31] <tseng> buh at ppc mono bug
[12:31] <ajmitch_> madduck just held a baz & debian packaging session the other day on irc
[12:31] <tseng> right
[12:31] <ajmitch_> tseng: yeah I'll try & get the downstairs imac booted up & test it
[12:31] <tseng> i think i had this bug filed a year ago
[12:31] <ajmitch_> installed hoary on it a few weeks back
[12:32] <tseng> and invalidated it after a few ppc tests
[12:32] <tseng> and upstream says fixed
[12:32] <ajmitch_> yes, and it only seems to show up on a few boxes - now after a few months someone has it again
[12:32] <tseng> $ mcs --version
[12:32] <tseng> Mono C# compiler version <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:32] <tseng> i mean
[12:32] <ajmitch_> ancient..
[12:32] <tseng> thats ancient history
[12:33] <tseng> the bug is from 05/2004
[12:33] <ajmitch_> then why does someone see it on a current hoary box?
[12:33] <ajmitch_> it just doesn't make sense
[12:34] <tseng> yheah
[12:34] <tseng> not that we can do much about hoary anyway
[12:36] <tseng> oh this is the same bug
[12:36] <tseng> that i closed
[12:41] <ajmitch_> yep
[12:41] <ajmitch_> ok, on the mac now
[12:46] <ajmitch_> looks like it'll take a few minuts
[12:57] <ajmitch_> tseng: wonderful, I get the SIGILL on hoary
[01:08] <ajmitch_> brb
[01:08] <Q-FUNK> who maintains the bazar branch of planner/main?
[01:09] <Q-FUNK> is that ever merged back into the Ubuntu packages?
[01:09] <Q-FUNK><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:11] <Mithrandir> that's probably a mirror of the planner CVS.
[01:12] <Q-FUNK> hmm. ok
[01:13] <shawarma> Question: I've upgraded to Breezy (and hence firefox 1.0.6) and the fonts in firefox are QUITE a bit larger than before.... Can anyone tell me why?
[01:22] <shawarma> Ok, let me rephrase: Does anyone else have larger fonts in firefox after upgrading to Breezy?
[01:23] <ogra> shawarma, this is not a support channel and i'm sure there are some bugreports open about it
[01:26] <shawarma> The topic of #ubuntu says not to use Breezy and I figured there would be more people actually running Breezy in here. I'm asking because I'm willing to work on fixing it, and it helps a lot to know if it's a common wellknown problem or something specific to my system..
[01:28] <ogra> this is the channel for universe package development... we dont even touch firefox if you want to help fixing, go to #ubuntu-devel ...
[01:28] <ajmitch> ah, faster DSL finally :)
[01:29] <ogra> shawarma, it helps a lot if you look in bugzilla first, thats an ancient cairo/ff bug.... ;)
[01:29] <ogra> there must be several reports
[01:33] <shawarma> ogra: Cairo?
[01:35] <shawarma> ogra: Oh, and I can't seem to find any bug report about it in bugzilla? Do you have a link available?
[01:57] <Yagisan> ajmitch, whats DSL like over in NZ ?
[02:05] <Yagisan> Odd. Is there anyway I can force my package to uninstall the previous version BEFORE installing my new one ?
[02:07] <Yagisan> it is causing some issues with leaving files behind. I could rm them, but that seems like a hack
[02:12] <ajmitch> Yagisan: DSL in NZ is bad
[02:12] <ajmitch> nearly as bad as .au :)
[02:13] <ajmitch> I'd say worse, but we *just* got 2Mbps available
[02:13] <ajmitch> Yagisan: w.r.t your packages, use Conflicts/Replaces fields in debian/control
[02:14] <ajmitch> if files are moved between packages.. otherwise I'm not sure what you mean?
[02:31] <Yagisan> Sorry ajmitch - had to feed bub.
[02:32] <Yagisan> WRT my packages, a dpkg-divert moved packages, and became policy compliant at the same time
[02:33] <Yagisan> DSL does look better in NZ :(
[02:33] <ajmitch> Yagisan: that's funny, I was on 256/128 until yesterday
[02:33] <ajmitch> I wouldn't call that better :)
[02:33] <Yagisan> I had dialup until I went to UDU
[02:34] <Yagisan> I pay for 1500/256 but I wouldn't say its reliable
[02:34] <Yagisan> and I know the copper cables could do better
[02:35] <Yagisan> WRT my packages - go with a rm hack ?
[02:38] <Yagisan> I have replaces, but no conflicts in my control. I'll rebuild a see if I still need a rm hack
[02:38] <ajmitch> rm hacks are not good to do
[02:39] <ajmitch> ah, you were at UDU as well?
[02:39] <Yagisan> I know - I'll find out in 10mins if I still need to do it
[02:39] <Yagisan> yeah, I met you andrew
[02:39] <ajmitch> yeah sorry, I don't recognise irc nicks I don't see often :)
[02:40] <Yagisan> I signed your key and 6days later had my machine die taking my old key down with it :(
[02:40] <ajmitch> ouch :)
[02:40] <Yagisan> lesson to self, never store backups on cheap cds - when you need them they don't restore
[02:40] <Mithrandir> or verify your backups.
[02:41] <Yagisan> verified yes, but that was 4 weeks prior
[02:41] <Yagisan> moved to a RAID5 for hdd, and DVD+RW for backups now
[02:43] <Yagisan> anyone ppc here ?
[02:44] <ajmitch> yes, I've got ppc running at the moment
[02:45] <Yagisan> after I've finished with my package, could you see if it builds in ppc for me
[02:45] <ajmitch> ok, it's only got hoary at the moment
[02:45] <ajmitch> but I can test
[02:46] <Yagisan> that's fine - it's targeted at hoary while I develop it.
[02:47] <ajmitch> ok
[02:51] <Yagisan> hooray - succesfull migration
[03:07] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:07] <Yagisan> G'day
[03:11] <ajmitch> hi bddebian
[03:12] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[03:13] <bddebian> Heya \sh
[03:14] <\sh> re
[03:14] <\sh> grmpf
[03:15] <\sh> why are they delivering a dvd rom for recovery when there is no dvd rom..
[03:15] <\sh> stupid
[03:15] <\sh> i can't even pxe this image
[03:17] <ajmitch> bzr is certainly interesting, just playing with it for packaging some of my stuff
[04:14] <mbreit> hi
[04:16] <bddebian> Heya mbreit
[04:23] <bddebian> Heya ogra
[04:26] <Nafallo> yay microsoft centered supports!
[04:26] <bddebian>  ?
[04:27] <Nafallo> I just talked to my laptops supportcentre after my optical unit acting up
[04:27] <Nafallo> they can't ensure things will work on linux
[04:28] <Nafallo> so I told them I can, I got a log of the errors the kernel tell me when I insert a CD, I'm in the developteam for the operative system I'm using and their hardware just turned crappy.
[04:28] <Nafallo> they'll send me a new burner this week :-).
[04:30] <bddebian> Ahh :-)
[04:31] <Nafallo> I knew something was up when I couldn't use one of those hoary livecds I got with the mail ;-)
[04:32] <Nafallo> seems to work with one of my burned CDs though
[04:32] <Nafallo> but not with a blank one
[04:32] <Nafallo> anyway, odd, and I'll get a new drive ;-)
[04:35] <Seveas> Nafallo, lol :)
[04:46] <mbreit> can someone upload my passepartout-fix for me?
[04:59] <tseng> ajmitch: "wonderful" indeed
[04:59] <tseng> ajmitch: tried breezy?
[05:52] <Yagisa1> Anyone here with experience in putting a shell script "doghouse" around a badly designed program ?
[05:52] <tseng> like a chroot?
[05:52] <Yagisa1> more like a diversion
[05:53] <Yagisa1> the app in question, craps in the CWD
[05:53] <Yagisa1> I set up a doghouse to contain it to $HOME/.deng
[05:53] <Yagisa1> but I seem to have made a mistake in setting up dpkg-divert
[05:54] <Yagisa1> in my preinst
[05:55] <Yagisa1> I set up two diverts, one to move the app to .real, and one to move my .sh to the original command location
[05:56] <Yagisa1> but it errors on install, so this is a bad thing
[06:00] <Yagisa1> OK. I'll go with one divert, and symlink. See if it works better like that.
[06:26] <Nafallo> what's wrong with kazehakase?
[06:27] <ogra_ltsp> is there something wrong ?
[06:27] <ogra_ltsp> except the strange name
[06:27] <Nafallo> Build-Dep: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.8)
[06:27] <Nafallo> Build-Conflict: mozilla-dev (<= 2:1.7.9)
[06:28] <Nafallo> the binary deps mozilla-browser and conflicts with the same versions
[06:28] <ogra_ltsp> ouch
[06:32] <Nafallo> ogra_ltsp: I take care of it though. I'll ask the user to file a bug on malone :-).
[06:32] <Nafallo> karma, here we come! :-)
[06:33] <ogra_ltsp> :)
[06:35] <highvoltage> ogra_ltsp: you're on ltsp?
[06:36] <ogra_ltsp> zup
[06:36] <ogra_ltsp> with breoken kezmap as zou can see :)
[06:37] <ogra_ltsp> tried the edubuntu daily..... but its still to broken ... you cnt easily work wround the breakage yet
[06:37] <Nafallo> ogra_ltsp: what steps shall I take when I want to book #ubuntu-meeting? ;-)
[06:37] <ogra_ltsp> just look at the Calendar... if nothing is scheduled, grab it
[06:40] <Nafallo> oki :-)
[06:41] <siretart> re
[06:41] <siretart> Does anyone know if Andrew McMillan does irc?
[06:44] <siretart> and more importantly, do DD cound as reviewer fuer REVU purposes?
[06:44] <siretart> I'd say yes, but wanted to hear a second opinion
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> anyone: ndiswrapper will not modprobe insert. Modprobe reports a fatal error. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:48] <jabra> what is the error?
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> the error is not specific
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> it simply states fatal error can not insert
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> or something real close to that
[06:49] <ogra> can you carry that to a support channel like #ubuntu please ?
[06:50] <ogra> this is one for universe development...
[06:50] <ubuntuguy> ogra: sorry, I tried there, I'm desperate.
[06:52] <ubuntuguy> several people have reported this error on a thread on the ubuntuforums.org
[06:52] <ubuntuguy> thanks anyway
[06:53] <ogra> someone should tell the people that forums are not the place to report bugs if they want them solved *sigh*
[06:54] <zul> yeah especially when the kernel-team doesnt really read the forums :)
[06:54] <Nafallo> does any team? ;-)
[06:54] <Treenaks> maybe the docteam?
[06:55] <Treenaks> speaking of the kernel team, *points at bugzilla#2129*
[06:55] <bddebian> heh
[06:57] <siretart> ok, bye folks. cu tomorrow
[06:57] <bddebian> Later siretart
[06:58] <Treenaks> ogra: there is a "Burgundavia team"?
[06:58] <bddebian> Hehe
[06:58] <Treenaks> I mean.. fanboys OK, but a whole team?
[07:00] <ogra> Nafallo, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1775 ;)
[07:03] <Nafallo> ogra: thanx :-). I assigned it to me and marked it accepted. dep-wait on eveything else I have to do (meeting in 2h and aspell transition) :-)
[07:05] <ogra> dylis in #ubuntu-bugs is very helpful ;)
[07:05] <ogra> err dilys
[07:06] <zul> what is the url for the package search?
[07:07] <bddebian>  packages.ubuntu.com
[07:08] <zul> thanks bddebian
[07:41] <Treenaks> "Configuring bicyclerepair" ??! WTF?
[07:42] <ogra> whats wron with that Treenaks ?
[07:42] <tseng> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bicyclerepair
[07:42] <Treenaks> ogra: It's a laptop, not a bicycle :)
[07:42] <Treenaks> tseng: oh cool
[07:43] <\sh> i can't use the laptop as phone
[07:43] <Treenaks> \sh: why not?
[07:43] <\sh> cause no mic jack
[07:43] <Treenaks> \sh: most laptops have builtin mics
[07:43] <\sh> only internal one
[07:43] <\sh> but's bull**** cause of my headset
[07:44] <\sh> a external mic is even better
[07:44] <ogra> hey, dont complain, at least it can fix your bike :)
[07:44] <\sh> what?
[07:46] <\sh> the other things like bluetooth can only be enabled via acpi call...and without a kernel patch nothing happens
[07:46] <\sh> the applies to suspend and hibernate
[07:46] <\sh> there i have to patch acpid
[07:47] <\sh> all patches even the NIC driver are refused from upstream
[07:47] <\sh> so I have to build my own kernel and acpid for this laptop
[07:47] <\sh> and provide some experimental install media
[07:48] <\sh> let me all document this with coreys new template
[07:48] <\sh> so..this laptop is not ubuntu compatible at all
[07:49] <\sh> ,-)
[08:30] <Tonio> hi everyone
[08:30] <Tonio> I have a little problem complying with md5sum with a package
[08:30] <Tonio> can someone give me just 2 minutes ?
[09:45] <bddebian> Heya Mez
[09:45] <\sh> Mez: did fabbione reached u?
[09:46] <Mez> er, no
[09:46] <Mez> sup?
[09:46] <\sh> Mez: somebody backported the kernel
[09:47] <Mez> what the fuck?
[09:47] <bddebian> Such language.. :-)
[09:47] <Mez> sorry..
[09:47] <bddebian> I'm kidding :
[09:47] <bddebian> )
[09:47] <Mez> \sh: unofficial?
[09:48] <\sh> Mez: he just mentioned it...and wanted to assign some bugs to the backport SPOC :)
[09:48] <Mez> \sh: the kernel shouldnt have been backported
[09:48] <\sh> Mez: thats what he said
[09:49] <Mez> Looking at this, it's only been backported for warty
[09:50] <Mez> and thats only 2.6.10
[09:50] <\sh> email him..
[09:56] <Mez> \sh - It's not backports..
[10:09] <Treenaks> \o/ -> foodfight.org/log (now all I need is syndication on planet)
[10:47] <ajmitch> morning all
[10:56] <bddebian> Morning ajmitch
[11:02] <jdong> hey, why's breezy's clamav not in sync with debian?
[11:05] <ajmitch> jdong: because it's after upstream version freeze & noone has requested an exception?
[11:06] <ogra> ajmitch, after feature freeze even .... which is more strict
[11:06] <ajmitch> true
[11:07] <ajmitch> ogra: so do you think I can get f-spot 0.1.0 into breezy?
[11:07] <ogra> i'd like to hear tsengs opinion, but if it works on amd64 i'll vote for it *g*
[11:07] <ajmitch> heh
[11:08] <ajmitch> I'll do a pkg-mono upload for debian & see how it goes
[11:18] <whiprush> that photo import from the camera for fspot
[11:18] <whiprush> need it so ... badly ...
[11:20] <ajmitch> whiprush: don't worry, we can feed your addiction..
[11:20] <whiprush> <3
[11:21] <whiprush> then next cycle we can argue about media players all day
[11:22] <StoneTable> rol
[11:23] <ajmitch> ah, f-spot_0.1.0-1_i386.deb built
[11:24] <ajmitch> bbiab
[11:29] <tseng> ogra: im cool with f-spot, after i look at it
[11:30] <ogra> oki, go for it then :)
[11:30] <ogra> to make whiprush happy ;)
[11:31] <tseng> i have been using cvs
[11:36] <tseng> nice
[11:36] <tseng> crasher
[11:36] <tseng> help - about
[11:43] <ajmitch> ah this work box is unbearably slow in the morning
[11:44] <mbreit> hi all...
[11:44] <mbreit> could somebody upload my passepartout-fix?
[11:50] <crimsun> url?
[11:50] <mbreit> http://ubuntu.mobr.de/sources/debdiffs/passepartout_0.6-1ubuntu1.debdiff
[11:50] <mbreit> (and yes, i hate those config.sub/.guess things in a debdiff...)


[00:01] <arraybolt3[m]> As for the installer prompt still being open when the user clicks "Install Lubuntu" and then backs out of the installer, I think that's actually a feature. It keeps the user from getting in a difficult situation if they back out of the installer - they can relaunch the installer or try Lubuntu, depending on what they wanted to do.
[00:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): RISC-V 64 builds successfully and Lintian clean except for it has a slightly different syntax for the "no-manual-page" override (using Jammy as host on RISC-V64, Kinetic as host on amd64, both building for Kinetic), so it has some extra warnings in there, but nothing to worry about IMO.
 if you were asking me about libfuse2/appimage on reddit... I don't use flatpak or appimages, and don't normally test with them.. so have no comment sorry.  I do monitor reddit & comment when I have something to say (most sites actually) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> I want to know what guiverc @guiverc:matrix.org thinks too :))
[03:05] <tsimonq2> @guiverc: Let me rephrase my question... from an end user perspective, all things considered, do you think it's worth it?
[03:07] <guiverc> I'm neither for/against it. I can't given any useful opinion sorry Simon
[03:25] <tsimonq2> All good :)
[03:25] <tsimonq2> Seemed to be up your alley so figured I'd ask
[03:25] <tsimonq2> Good morning btw :)
[03:25] <tsimonq2> ...or afternoon already? Can't tell ;)
[03:25] <guiverc> G'day & yep worth asking ... (arvo already yep)
[20:29]  * tsimonq2 uploaded an image: (124KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/linuxdelta.com/pZEjmdyNkehbMMthiiSnbVVd/Screenshot_20220702-152937_Reddit.jpg >
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Someone come get me I'm starting fights ;P
[20:33] <kc2bez[m]> Switch users sadly isn't an option though :(
[20:37] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix.org: I'm going to be hacking away at many more Debian uploads today. Feel free to lmk if you have PRs or need help :) will review and hopefully upload your new package today!
 Where? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> Someone come get me I'm starting fights ;P)
 XD
[20:42] <kc2bez[m]> lubot: Reddit
[20:43] <tsimonq2> Someone just said "oh install LXDE on 22.04 it'll do it" and I said "LXDE is a downgrade not an upgrade" >:P
[20:45] <kc2bez[m]> I agree
[20:46] <kc2bez[m]> I don't think I'll be much help keeping you out of the fight :P
[20:48] <tsimonq2> XD
 *drops Simon into Dependency Hell*
 There he can work developing lxde
[23:17] <guiverc> arraybolt3[m], if your ears are burning.. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/wiki-editors/971/4 maybe why


[08:40] <Guest56> https://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ seems to be down. http is still working.
[08:43] <sajoupa> Guest56: Ah, that's because the usual host for nl.a.u.c is down, so we redirected the address to our servers. And our servers don't support https.
[11:02] <Fluor> Guest56, sajoupa, afaik nl.archive points to the usual server again, i dont see any issues with http/https at this moment.
[12:10] <sajoupa> yup, it was redirected back to the normal server since then


[06:15] <j1mc> hi all
[14:03] <j1mc> mdke: are you around?
[18:39] <issyl0> Evening.
[18:44] <Pendulum> hi issyl0
[18:44] <issyl0> Pendulum: \o/
[18:44]  * issyl0 was just looking at the Wiki and forgot she was already in the channel.


[03:49] <jiohdi> I have two options lxde and lubuntu on my login screen... is there a difference?

[11:03] <NRWlion> hey there
[11:03] <MrChrisDruif> Hai NRWlion
[11:03] <NRWlion> the guy from Holland who seems to have no job :D *runs*
[11:04]  * MrChrisDruif is a student and works only part-time on some evenings :)
[11:06] <NRWlion> i am a student to with 3 part time jobs and no private life any more
[12:32] <hungmanmoojoo> hiya
[12:32] <hungmanmoojoo> is the luuntu dl x64 or x86?
[12:34] <MrChrisDruif> x86
[12:34] <MrChrisDruif> But x86_64 is possible :)
[12:36] <MrChrisDruif> hungmanmoojoo: ^
[12:37] <hungmanmoojoo> ok?.. where do i find the 64bit dl?
[12:38] <MrChrisDruif> Let me find the link explaining it :)
[12:38] <hungmanmoojoo> or should i use the i386 version?
[12:38] <JoeMaverickSett> mini-iso should do it.
[12:39] <hungmanmoojoo> but this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-10.10.iso is i386 right?
[12:39] <MrChrisDruif> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall
[12:39] <MrChrisDruif> hungmanmoojoo: Yes :)
[12:39] <MrChrisDruif> JoeMaverickSett: Yes :)
[12:39] <MrChrisDruif> But there are a few commands to use before you can install Lubuntu :)
[12:40] <MrChrisDruif> (There isn't a lubuntu-desktop meta package in the repos yet ;))
[12:41] <hungmanmoojoo> dagn
[12:41] <hungmanmoojoo> dang
[12:41] <hungmanmoojoo> even
[12:41] <MrChrisDruif> Dang? What's wrong?
[12:41] <hungmanmoojoo> you said there isnt any lubuntu-desktop metapackage in the repo
[12:42] <hungmanmoojoo> ooh.. wait.. you mean the ubuntu repo?
[12:42] <hungmanmoojoo> now i get it.. you add the lubuntu-desktop repo
[12:43] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah :D
[12:44] <MrChrisDruif> Lubuntu isn't an official derivative yet, but we're working hard on it :)
[12:44] <MrChrisDruif> The other teams really want us to succeed :)
[13:45] <topmail> hi there!
[13:45] <topmail> i am from greece
[13:45] <topmail> can i make a question please ?
[13:46] <topmail> how i manually fix the position of the desktop-icons ?
[13:47] <topmail> hello ??
[13:47] <MrChrisDruif> topmail: I'm not sure if it's the same in Lubuntu, but in Gnome you can drag'n'drop
[13:47] <MrChrisDruif> And it stays there :)
[13:48] <topmail> no it is not the same
[14:53] <b0o-awesome> How do i install unrealircd for lubuntu?
[14:53] <b0o-awesome> There is only source code
[14:54] <b0o-awesome> where can i get .deb?
[15:32]  * Mkaysi wants to know that ^^ too.
[15:32] <bioterror> haha
[15:33] <Mkaysi> bioterror: I mean <b0o-awesome> How do i install unrealircd for lubuntu?. Not those quit messages.
[15:34]  * Mkaysi needs IRCd on localhost to do botspamming there.
[15:34] <bioterror> debian stable doesnt have it neither
[15:35] <bioterror> Mkaysi, ircd-ratbox - advanced, stable and fast ircd
[15:35]  * Mkaysi tries sometime.
[15:35] <bioterror> ratbox > * ;)
[15:36] <Mkaysi> It sounds better than UnrealIRCd. OperaNet which g-lined me as botnet used UnrealIRCd. Rottalaatikko?
[15:37] <bioterror> Wed17:37    XSiRC :: ircd-ratbox-3.0.2(20090327_2-26491). irc.deathwish.net (egGIKMpZ6 TS6ow 6DW)
[15:38] <bioterror> Wed17:38    EFnet :: ircd-ratbox-3.0.1(20090303_1-26467). efnet.xs4all.nl (egGHIKMpZ6 TS6ow 4XS)
[15:38] <bioterror> ;)
[16:44] <kosaidpo|> hello guys
[16:44] <kosaidpo|> idk why icant install skype even all repo are active
[16:45] <kosaidpo|> it says this package its unavailable or its old
[16:45] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: just seeing where I installed it
[16:46] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: sorry didnt get you :P
[16:47] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: it's in main so it should work, it's possible your mirror is updating so I'd suggest "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" then if there are no errors retry your skype installation. If that fails wait a few hours and retry so it has time to sync
[16:48] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: okies thnaks
[16:48] <kosaidpo|> ill
[17:07] <MrChrisDruif> Skypes servers are a bit wacky <_<"
[17:09] <head_victim> Everytime I've had installation problems with packages it's turned out that the mirror I was using was halfway through a resync. So if I left it an hour or two it would just work again.
[17:16] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: i forgot to tell you itried last night to install it but got same thing as today : D
[17:17] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: oh in that case I'd suggest possibly trying a different mirror. If that doesn't work please pastebin the exact error message
[17:17] <head_victim> Unfortunately I am about to head to bed (it's 320 am here) but phillw or bioterror might be able to help you out further if need be
[17:18] <kosaidpo|> here you go http://pastebin.com/552v48fS
[17:18] <kosaidpo|> wow go rest head_victim n sleep tight
[17:18] <head_victim> Did you get errors with the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[17:18] <head_victim> Oh, night mate
[17:25] <rtdos> what changes are in store for Lubuntu 11.04? I know about the changes in Ubuntu 11.04 but what about Lubuntu 11.04?
[18:55] <odium> hi
[18:56] <NRWlion> hi odium
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> hi guys
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> can ozone be used in Maverick??
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> as in, the theme..
[22:37] <mark76> I'm using it
[22:37] <mark76> There's a repo Hang on
[22:37] <mark76> PPA I mean
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> thanks :)
[22:38] <mark76> http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> ok, I have applied the button and panel theme manually
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> is there a package to change it all automagically?
[22:41] <mark76> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Natty/Ozone
[22:42] <mark76> Nah. Just download the packages and install them
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> yeah I've seen that, it's where I got the components I applied manually
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> it's just the theme I can't apply
[22:43] <mark76> Where have you put it?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> I have ozone_theme.tag.gz but I'm not sure where to use it
[22:43] <mark76> Right. First you need to decompress it
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ok, done
[22:44] <mark76> Try clicking on the icon and see if Xarchiver pops up
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> I used guake (Terminal(
[22:45] <mark76> Is terminal in the folder that the directory for ozone is in?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Yeah It generated an Ozone folder with 2 subfolders, gtk-2.0 and openbox-3
[22:46] <mark76> Okay. open a terminal in the desktop folder
[22:46] <mark76> Which is where I assume the ozone folder is
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> its in downloads but doesn't matter, I can adapt
[22:47] <mark76> Okay. So open a terminal in that folder then type
[22:47] <mark76> sudo cp ~/downloads/ozone /usr/share/themes
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> ahhhhhh thats the magic bullet
[22:47] <mark76> Adapt as needed
[22:48] <mark76> It's Downloads, right?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Yeah its in /usr/share/themes now :)
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Got it now :)
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> cheers dude. Massive help
[22:49] <mark76> K. Now open obconf
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Got it, set theme to ozone there :)
[22:50] <mark76> You'll need to import it first
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> yeah it's all good dude, looks like the screenshots now
[22:51] <mark76> Excellent
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> cheers man, I'll see if I can make a script for this so we can have a deb for the theme ;)
[22:51] <mark76> Cool :D
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> make the appropriate changes in postinst
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> etc
[22:51] <mark76> Yeah
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> I'll email the list when I have something decent
[22:52] <mark76> k
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> recommend gloss blue theme for chrome too, matches the theme nice
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> https://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/themes/images/thumb_glossyblue.jpg
[22:54] <mark76> You can sort of use the GTK theme in Chromium
[22:54] <mark76> It doesn't pick it up very well, though
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> yeah its always been kinda rubbish like that
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> anyways bedtime kids
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> thanks again :)
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> peace
[23:00] <drexl> wait! (process:235): GlibWarning **: get pwuid_r() failed due to unknown user id (0)
[23:15] <Juanantonio> Hello
[23:27] <Juanantonio> I have lubuntu installed in one hard disk inside a PC I am going to send it away, can I just plug this disk to another PC to have lubuntu?
[23:29] <mark76> I should think so
[23:29] <Juanantonio> Or maybe shall I reinstall it to make it work?
[23:29] <mark76> Can you actually remove the hdd?
[23:30] <Juanantonio> In this moment? No, I can't, it's working
[23:30] <Juanantonio> but I will tomorrow if it works
[23:32] <mark76> K
[23:34] <Juanantonio> Mark, this disk is 10 Gb, can I copy it to another with 80 Gb with no problem?
[23:35] <mark76> Probably
[23:35] <mark76> I've never done that
[23:36] <Juanantonio> You know, thing is, I had one 800 Mhz PIII with this 10 Gb disk, and i installed lubuntu there going very well
[23:36] <mark76> What happened?
[23:37] <Juanantonio> I have been given a 3 Ghz PIV with 80 Gb disk and what I wanted is to "pass" it to this new one
[23:37] <mark76> Fair enough
[23:38] <Juanantonio> My question is, if I need a special application to copy image of the little disk or not
[23:42] <Juanantonio> Ok, I will do it just that way


 welcome Doruk. which flavor are you testing?
[06:16] <ruenoak> Hi all is there another name in Ubuntu for Gnome's Activities Overview? I'm trying to report a bug for it but Activities Overview  doesn't seem to be the correct name. thanks.
[06:24] <guiverc> ruenoak, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-introduction.html.en will be helpful
[06:25] <guiverc> I'd also not worry that much about a wrong term, if it's gnome-shell or a gnome package I'm sure vanvugt will see & understand it
[06:30] <ruenoak> Thanks guiverc , I see it's called Activities Overview  on that site as well. I've tryed application-grid and application-overlay  with no luck. Yes I might just try gnome-shell with a description and screenshot.
[06:33] <guiverc> Thank you for taking time to test and report your findings, and help make Ubuntu better ruenoak
[06:34] <ruenoak> Not a problem glad to hep where I can