[09:23] <bobweaver> apt-get source <name of package> then  open that file that I said above it has all the copy{right,left} info
[09:24] <golden_fish> bobweaver ; okay, thanks, i see that, i will try them all, and i will be right back
[09:24] <bobweaver> I am sure that there is also a dpkg or apt command that also does that not sure thou
[09:24] <golden_fish> :)
[09:25] <fabio> action i've done that command line results all 0, it's ok?
[09:26] <geirha> All packages should install a copyright notice under /usr/share/doc/package-name/
[09:31] <jacta> ActionParsnip, you dont remember? you're using duckduckgo?
[09:31] <bz> zomg, another duckduckgoer
[09:32] <islandmonkey> I'm using DuckDuckGo as well
[09:33] <nja> Woop DuckDuckGo!
[09:33] <SeH> Hello
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> islandmonkey  me too
[09:34] <freakwent> hey I've been reading up on ubuntu support for fakeraid.  I'm a bit confused by a system I have
[09:34] <freakwent> Windows sees two discrete drives, separate.
[09:34] <freakwent> The RAID features are off in the BIOS
[09:34] <SeH> I use ubuntu 12.04 with genome classic no effects there is a way to modify toolbar place and it size!!!
[09:34] <freakwent> Ubuntu sees hda and hdb as discrete devices
[09:34] <golden_fish> this is so cool, i try gespeaker, i like it :)
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> SeH  that is correct
[09:35] <freakwent> 'mount' reports that only one is mounted as /
[09:35] <freakwent> however if I mount the other at /mnt/test
[09:35] <freakwent> and touch /mnt/test/FILE
[09:35] <freakwent> then I can see /FILE
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> SeH  install xfce and use that, instead, it can be modified more
[09:35] <freakwent> appear on the other drive.
[09:36] <prateekp> hey i am not able to remove openssl issue
[09:37] <prateekp> while i do rails server i get an error .... https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:37] <freakwent> does anyone have experience with this sort of fakeraid phenomenon?  I'm expecting and intending to have separate devices.
[09:37] <rails> prateekp: do you have openssl installed?
[09:37] <freakwent> I woulnd't mind so much but it often won't boot so I'm suspecting there's a strange race condition at some stage in the boot process
[09:38] <prateekp> yes
[09:39] <rails> prateekp: and libssl-dev?
[09:39] <prateekp> rails : how to instal libssl-dev
[09:39] <prateekp> may be i havent installed
[09:39] <rails> sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:39] <mi3> prateekp: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:40] <mi3> !beginners | prateekp
[09:40]  * rails sits on mi3
[09:40] <mi3> lol
[09:42] <golden_fish> shall i install MouseTrap on my ubuntu 12.04 or it won't work, 7 of 7 people said it won't work ?
[09:43] <freakwent> so how can I convince ubuntu to stop using the fakeraid without losing any data?
[09:43] <Erwyn> freakwent: try diplomacy
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> freakwent  you can report a bug if needed
[09:44] <prateekp> mi3 : i am still getting the sameerror
[09:44] <mi3> prateekp: whats the error ?
[09:45] <prateekp> https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:45] <nlko> hi guys, im trying to get java applets working with either chrome or firefox..no idea what to do
[09:45] <nlko> but need it for remote access
[09:45] <Erwyn> nlko: installed java?
[09:45] <golden_fish> guys, shall i install MouseTrap on my ubuntu 12.04 or it won't work, 7 of 7 people said it won't work ?
[09:46] <mi3> prateekp: I cant help, sorry, I dont know what its about :(
[09:46] <nlko> yes, i have the jdk downloaded which includes the jre and java home is set
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> nlko: i use this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> golden_fish  install it, if it doesnt work, remove it
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> golden_fish  install it, if it doesnt work, remove it and report a bug
[09:46] <prateekp> i am getting an error while i do rails server https://gist.github.com/3175302
[09:46] <golden_fish> okay , okay :)
[09:47] <k4v> wo stell ich denn mal gnome xchat auf utf8 um?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> !de
[09:47] <k4v> sorr
[09:47] <k4v> y
[09:47] <nlko> ActionParsnip: will that give me java applet in the browser?
[09:47] <Erwyn> nlko: normally yes
[09:48] <nlko> ok, il do that. but out of interest, i already java sun java 7 jdk and jre downloaded to /opt, what would i need to do for the brwoser to know about this for its applets?
[09:50] <rails> prateekp
[09:50] <rails> rvm package install openssl
[09:50] <rails> rvm remove 1.9.2
[09:50] <rails> rvm install 1.9.2 --with-openssl-dir=$HOME/.rvm/usr
[09:50] <rails> tht should fix it
[09:51] <golden_fish> report for MouseTrap : not working :)
[09:52] <Seryth> I need to completely purge anything to do with b43 and b43-fwcutter, and b43-legacy. I've already apt-get purged them, but I need to remove any leftover config files etc. Where are they stored?
[09:54] <bobweaver> Seryth,  firmware-b43-install bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[09:54] <Seryth> bobweaver: I mean, what location...what dir are they in?
[09:55] <bobweaver> Seryth,  they are moduals in kernel I thought so a simple apt-get --purge remove      sould do the trick   firmware is under /lib/firmare but for reall apt sould handle it all
[09:56] <Seryth> bobweaver: Ah okay, thanks
[09:57] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I have seen alot of times that jockey gets confused and installs the wl is that installed ?  lsmod | grep wl
[09:57] <railsraider> anyone knows a good utility to see the disk usage in terminal, i'm getting lost with du -h
[09:57] <bobweaver> with broadcom cards that is ^^
[09:57] <bobweaver> df -h     ?
[09:58] <Seryth> bobweaver: No result :/
[09:58] <bobweaver> Seryth,  good
[09:58] <Seryth> bobweaver: I just needed to remove everything so that I could go through the setup of b43legacy again
[09:59] <railsraider> bobweaver:  how do i drill down and see folder size i don't wanna see a list of all files just size of folder
[09:59] <bobweaver> Seryth,  can you post a lspci -nn | grep 14e4 && lsmod        then pastebin that the bot will tell you more
[09:59] <bobweaver> !pastebin |  Seryth
[09:59] <Seryth> bobweaver: Yeah, I've already got pastebinit, thanks
[09:59] <Seryth> :P
[09:59] <bobweaver> :)
[10:00] <bobweaver> railsraider,  you have no gui ?
[10:00] <railsraider> no
[10:00] <n8lag> me neither
[10:00] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109826/ bobweaver
[10:00] <n8lag> we don' need no steenkin gue
[10:00] <railsraider> wonder if theres a until that does that in a terminal window
[10:01] <bobweaver> Seryth,  lspci -nn | grep 14e4           plz :)
[10:01] <Seryth> bobweaver: Uh, that's what I did, no?
[10:01] <Seryth> Oh, I did lsmod too
[10:01] <bobweaver> nope just lsmod showed up :(
[10:02] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109829/ same result this time too bobweaver ...O.o
[10:02] <n8lag> who do i ask to turn the latest version of edbrowse into an apt-get package?  ty
[10:03] <Hyperbyte> I have a Precise system which is really slow during disk operations... cpu waiting, i/o timeouts... I'm quite sure the disk is fine though... hdparm -t /dev/sda also reports a speed of 85 MB/sec... any hints on what might be wrong and how I can resolve this?
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  you mean a .deb package?
[10:04] <n8lag> i guess.  not up on the jargon.  but anyway, a package i can install with apt-get
[10:05] <Erwyn> n8lag: you ask the software developper or a packager
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  maybe the repos contain something similar to it
[10:05] <Erwyn> n8lag: or you simply compile it
[10:05] <Erwyn> no need to package
[10:05] <n8lag> whats repos?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> n8lag  software sources
[10:06] <Seryth> bobweaver: Well, now that I've purged b43*, should I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx now? I've actually got internet on cable atm, so I can install following that
[10:06] <n8lag> ok, i can whine at the guy who maintainw it. hope he doesnt say call the ubuntu ppl :)
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> what's edbrowse?
[10:07] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I wrote this about broadcom here might help :)   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10796508
[10:07] <bobweaver> Post #44 ^^
[10:07] <n8lag> edbrowse is a editor / mail client / browser alll in one.  based on ed.  line editor
[10:08] <amory> I have question for my Quadro 4000 on Ubuntu 12.04  Sometimes the computer freezes and I need to reboot the system
[10:08] <Seryth> bobweaver: Thankyou :) I've got to use the b43legacy drivers though....does your page cover that?
[10:08] <bobweaver> Seryth,  all things broadcoom kinda need to re-write it
[10:09] <Seryth> bobweaver: True words :( but it's the only way I've got to access the net atm, so I'm gonna have to get it working :/ (it worked before, until I updated to 64bit
[10:09] <Seryth> )
[10:10] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I thought that all the legacy driver was was just different firmware aka firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:11] <Seryth> bobweaver: I think so, but I'm following your page now. I don't feel lost anymore! (But if it doesn't work, I'll hunt you down....>:))
[10:11] <bobweaver> lol
[10:11] <Seryth> bobweaver: I've spent two days trying to fix this :(
[10:11] <bobweaver>  you know where to find me :)
[10:12] <n8lag> ok, one more.  when i play an audio cd with mplayer, it plays a few seconds then pauses, plays then  pauses, ... but vlc plays it fine.  any idea why mplayer does that?
[10:12] <n8lag> im running ubuntu lucid 64bit
[10:14] <Weed37> have a netbook is their aversion of ubuntu that is built for netbooks ?
[10:14] <samba35> which is best pop3 client ? i am getting error with thunderbird "unable to locate mail spool file"
[10:16] <Seryth> http://imgur.com/xxTFv bobweaver Is that a normal result for that command? Like, I would expect those drivers to not be listed, seeing as I just purged them (the b43 ones)
[10:17] <n8lag> ty elves
[10:18] <Seryth> bobweaver: Or is that saying the drivers I *need*?
[10:19] <bobweaver> yup now is rmmod and restart it      sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[10:19] <bobweaver> do you have wireless if not lets see dmesg | grep b43
[10:21] <Seryth> bobweaver: I've gotta apt-get install the right things first! :P
[10:21] <captainfurious> is there a way to save status of workspace
[10:21] <root_> yes
[10:21] <captainfurious> so i can start up all my open apps automatically
[10:21] <captainfurious> restart*
[10:22] <captainfurious> how
[10:22] <root_> i dont now
[10:22] <bobweaver> Seryth,  :/  lets see     apt-cache policy b43legacy          is it installed ?
[10:23] <Seryth> N: Unable to locate package b43legacy
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: ^
[10:23] <bobweaver> Seryth,  apt-cache policy firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: I need to do sudo apt-get install firmware-b43legacy-installer
[10:23] <Seryth> oh
[10:23] <Seryth> okay
[10:23] <Seryth> bobweaver: Yeah, it's installed
[10:24] <bobweaver> now check to make sure that other firmare is not installed   like         apt-cache policy firmware-b43-installer
[10:24] <bobweaver> ect
[10:24] <Seryth> right
[10:24] <Seryth> bobweaver: Damn, firmware-b43-installer is installed...
[10:24] <Seryth> Should I purge it?
[10:25] <bobweaver> remove it
[10:25] <Seryth> Oky
[10:25] <Seryth> ay*
[10:25] <Seryth> bobweaver: Job done :)
[10:26] <Seryth> bobweaver: So now I want to do sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy, right?
[10:26] <Baralabite> G'day, Could anyone help me with my problem - I'm trying to limit (per user) the download/upload quota using squid
[10:27] <bobweaver> Seryth,  what that does is say to the kernel Hey I dont want this driver please remove it then modprobe says Hey I want this driver please make sure that it is loaded
[10:28] <Seryth> bobweaver: Okay, understood. Running it now :)
[10:28] <ohmy> Can anyone tell me how to set "from shell" gnome-classic instead of unity ? for all user sessions*
[10:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: Great, well my wireless network has popped up on the list now
[10:29] <bobweaver> ohmy,  remove the sessions file and or rename to ubuntu-session-back or what ever
[10:29] <bobweaver> Good News then Seryth
[10:29] <Seryth> bobweaver: Great! So now I've gotta try connecting to it *crosses fingers*
[10:30] <Baralabite> Heh - Having quite a time trying to figure out x chat, and how to connect to a number of servers at once...
[10:30] <golden_fish> the festival is too hard to run
[10:30] <Baralabite> I got it sorted though ;)
[10:30] <Seryth> Baralabite: Want a hand?
[10:30] <Seryth> Oh
[10:30] <Seryth> Hehe :)
[10:30] <bobweaver> Seryth,  I have also seen bug with that driver where it does not start on boot if that is the case you need to add it to /etc/modules
[10:30] <Baralabite> With figureing out xchat, or my other problem?
[10:30] <golden_fish> i run it from terminal then what is next
[10:30] <golden_fish> how to use it
[10:31] <Seryth> Baralabite: xchat
[10:31] <Baralabite> Seryth, if you got a moment though - I could use and hand with something else though, it's to do with bandwidth quota management
[10:31] <Baralabite> Ohh, okay then!
[10:31] <Seryth> bobweaver: Right, well I'm going to try connecting as soon as this apt-get update is done :)
[10:31] <Seryth> Baralabite: Heh, sorry, I'm not the guy to ask
[10:31] <Baralabite> Would you know  who is :P
[10:32] <Seryth> Urm.....ActionParsnip, he knows everything about anything, but he's not online atm! Just ask in the channel, and see what help you get :)
[10:32] <golden_fish> i write in terminal "festival" and nothing happened !
[10:33] <bobweaver> golden_fish,    in terminal   whereis festival
[10:33] <bobweaver> where is it ?
[10:33] <golden_fish> i install it
[10:33] <golden_fish> from software center
[10:34] <bobweaver> that is great golden_fish  but where is the binary ?  whereis festival
[10:34] <golden_fish> i do not know
[10:35] <bobweaver> open terminal and type in  "whereis festival "
[10:35] <OerHeks> festival --tts something2speak.txt
[10:35] <golden_fish> ok
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> bobweaver  type /msg ubottu info festival
[10:35] <Seryth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109874/ bobweaver, no luck :( here's a bit of my dmesg....
[10:35] <golden_fish> festival: /usr/bin/festival /etc/festival.scm /usr/lib/festival /usr/bin/X11/festival /usr/share/festival /usr/share/man/man1/festival.1.gz
[10:35] <OerHeks> better typ: man festival
[10:36] <golden_fish> okay what is next
[10:36] <_gpg_> bobweaver: sorry got disconnected
[10:36] <_gpg_> bobweaver: Can you please remind me what file to rename to what
[10:36] <bobweaver> golden_fish,  great    it is in   /usr/bin/festival   so what happens when you run     /usr/bin/festival --help
[10:37] <_gpg_> bobweaver: to force gnome-session-fallback as default
[10:37] <golden_fish> a long manual
[10:37] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  what are you useing lightdm  ?
[10:37] <golden_fish> a long manual pop up in terminal
[10:38] <_gpg_> bobweaver: yes
[10:38] <Seryth> bobweaver: Right, so there's good news and bad news: The good news is that my WiFi card is now detecting my network, the bad news is that is _still_ won't connect. Here's my dmesg with the lines that are important: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109874/
[10:38] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:38] <fddddddddf> References
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:38] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:38] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <bobweaver> ok _gpg_   cd /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/       do you see all the session files ?
[10:39] <golden_fish> Usage: festival Usage:
[10:39] <golden_fish> festival  <options> <file0> <file1> ...
[10:39] <golden_fish> In evaluation mode "filenames" starting with ( are evaluated inline
[10:39] <golden_fish> Festival Speech Synthesis System: 2.1:release November 2010
[10:39] <golden_fish> -q            Load no default setup files
[10:39] <golden_fish> --datadir <string>
[10:39] <FloodBot1> golden_fish: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <_gpg_> golden_fish: stop pasting please !!!!!!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> References
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <golden_fish> ok , sorry
[10:39] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:39] <bobweaver> Seryth,  reboot the computer
[10:39] <Seryth> bobweaver: Okay, will do, brb, rebooting!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be fixed!
[10:39] <fddddddddf> References
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:39] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <Baralabite> THanks Seryth - I've also asked on  the squid channel, but no response of yet...
[10:40] <_gpg_> bobweaver: i got gnome.session ubuntu-2d.session ubuntu.session inside
[10:40] <golden_fish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109885/
[10:40] <gribouille> hi
[10:40] <fddddddddf> Snardbafulator and ##philosophy must be quit
[10:40] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  these are the files that control what you see in lightdm manager
[10:40] <fddddddddf> must be fixed
[10:40] <fddddddddf> References
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ "Youth protest former Mexican ruling party's rise". Buenos Aires Herald (Editorial Amfin S.A.). Retrieved June 12, 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ a b Zapata, Belén (4 June 2012). "Atenco, el tema que 'encendió' a la Ibero y originó #YoSoy132" (in Spanish). CNNMéxico. Retrieved 29 June 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ Quesada, Juan Diego (May 27, 2012). "Que nadie cierre las libretas: Del 15-M a Yo Soy 132 solo hay nueve mil kilómetros". Animal Político. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <FloodBot1> fddddddddf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ Sotillos, Alberto (June 13, 2012). "#YoSoy132: el 15M llega a México" (in Spanish). Diario Progresista. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <fddddddddf>     ^ "#YoSoy132: Mexican Elections, Media, and Immigration". The Huffington Post. AOL. June 7, 2012. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
[10:40] <Baralabite> Bot?
[10:41] <gribouille> when intalling a package in a .deb file, how can I install the dependencies automaically too?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> bored script kiddies
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:41] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  so if you rename to say ubuntu-2d.session-bakup ubuntu.session-bakup   and log out they should be gone
[10:41] <_gpg_> bobweaver: thank you so much, i'm trying
[10:41] <golden_fish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109885/ < this what i got
[10:42] <mtfk> hi
[10:42] <golden_fish> what is next
[10:42] <mtfk> how to choose only one rule to build using dpkg-buildpackage ?
[10:42] <netw0rm> billyjam, bindi, bipolar, blenderhead, BlueEagle, BlueEagle, BlueEagle, Bryanstein, bzzzz, canadacow2:hi
[10:42] <mtfk> in project i have few rules full, light, extras
[10:42] <mtfk> and I would like to biuld only full
[10:42] <bobweaver> Right golden_fish that is the help page that tells you the commands what about man festival    or    info festival
[10:42] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, do you mean sudo apt-get -f install package.deb?
[10:43] <bobweaver> mtfk,  you set the rules in the control file
[10:43] <golden_fish> ok, how to use the software with GUI
[10:43] <mtfk> bobweaver: which one is control file ?
[10:43] <nja> Why are we talking about fried fish?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: no, install the package with dpkg, as normal. After it installs run:  sudo apt-get -f install   and the system will attempt to satisfy deps
[10:43] <bobweaver> mtfk,  could you explain how you are trying to build package ?   fakeroot  dpkg-buildpackage -F    ?
[10:44] <mtfk> dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b
[10:44] <mtfk> from src directory
[10:44] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, but if there are missing dependencies, the install will fail
[10:44] <mang0> bobweaver: It still doesn't work...http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109888/ dmesg
[10:44] <bobweaver> mtfk,  could you show me the code ?
[10:44] <mtfk> and in debian/rules are all rules
[10:44] <mang0> bobweaver: It just times out over and over again
[10:44] <mtfk> bobweaver: I try to re build existing package of nginx: apt-get source nginx
[10:44] <mtfk> and after adding module I just want to build that
[10:45] <chinabootlegmake> anyone here play minetest
[10:45] <mtfk> but each time it build me all rules but I want just one
[10:45] <chinabootlegmake> the font of this game is so wrong under ubuntu
[10:45] <golden_fish> bobweaver : i don't know how to use it with GUI
[10:45] <bobweaver> mtfk, ok there should be a Hackingme and Copying file also you might want to look at debuild and also pbuilder
[10:45] <bobweaver> golden_fish, me either
[10:46] <mang0> bobweaver: Just going afk for a mo, gotta grab some food
[10:46] <sandieg> hello everyone, i love you all! all of my self and nnothing all :P
[10:46] <bobweaver> I use gespeaker
[10:46] <bobweaver> golden_fish, ^^
[10:46] <synju> does anyone know a good application for virtual machines in ubuntu?
[10:46] <synju> + a link..
[10:46] <synju> :/
[10:46] <_gpg_> synju: virtualbox
[10:46] <bobweaver> mang0,  ok seems like it could be auth stuff
[10:46] <synju> so just apt-get virtualbox ?
[10:47] <golden_fish> ok :) bobweaver :), thanks for you help
[10:47] <bobweaver> np golden_fish  :)
[10:48] <bobweaver> synju, I doenload the deb from virualbox.org then install with software center but that is just me
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> synju: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: yes, but your available repos will be used to satisfy deps
[10:48] <synju> got the ose , tnx guys
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> synju: if you need raw usb access you will need to add the virtualbox ppa and use virtualbox-4.1
[10:50] <synju> hmm ok
[10:51] <mang0> bobweaver: perhaps...let me see
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> virtualbox 4.1.12 here, from the repos!
[10:53] <bobweaver> I seen that Ubuntu business edition comes with vmware out of the box
[10:53] <bobweaver> well the manager that is
[10:54] <mang0> http://pasteall.org/pic/35458 bobweaver, that's a part of the router settings - broadcasting on channel 11...is that right?
[10:55] <bobweaver> mang0,  what is out put of  apt-get policy wpasupplicant   ?
[10:55] <mang0> bobweaver: security+encryption is set to WPA2-PSK/WPA-PSK....that's wrong isn't it. It should be WPA/WPA2 right?
[10:56] <golden_fish> bobweaver ;what variable does festival take, coz the terminal it report > unbound variable : /home/administrator/test.txt <
[10:56] <mang0> E: Invalid operation policy bobweaver
[10:56] <bobweaver> lol sorry mang0  it is apt-cache policy
[10:56] <bobweaver> not apt get
[10:57] <mang0> bobweaver: Ah, heh, of course
[10:57] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109906/
[10:58] <bobweaver> mang0,  humm ... looks good try to remove and install again
[10:58] <Bennit> Hi
[10:58] <bobweaver> mang0,  afkb 10 min
[10:58] <Bennit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix # I'm following this guide to setup postfix
[10:59] <Bennit> in the testing part it says I should see the auth & STARTTSL lines but I don't get them
[10:59] <mang0> bobweaver: Sure, no problem.
[10:59] <Bennit> http://pastebin.com/Buthi0BM # is all I'm getting
[11:00] <golden_fish> what variable does festival take, coz the terminal it report > unbound variable : /home/administrator/test.txt <
[11:00]  * synju is trying to get markets.com metatrader 4 running in ubuntu.
[11:00] <synju> :/
[11:01] <fabio> hi
[11:01] <fabio> hello :)
[11:02] <golden_fish> hi :)
[11:02] <golden_fish> bobweaver ;what variable does festival take
[11:06] <bobweaver> mang0,  please run theses commands and give us the link after running thanks   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109916/
[11:06] <mang0> bobweaver: sure. I just removed all authentication on my wifi, still nothing
[11:07] <TUX_> can i run windows 7 virtually on linux?
[11:07] <TUX_> on ubuntu***
[11:07] <auronandace> TUX_: sure
[11:07] <auronandace> TUX_: virtualbox
[11:07] <TUX_> is it free?
[11:08] <auronandace> TUX_: indeed, you'd need your own copy of win7
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> TUX_: yes, its in software centre
[11:08] <susundberg> ( http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/getting-your-windows-7-fix-in-linux-with-virtualbox/900 )
[11:08] <golden_fish> it is free - just to conform - :)
[11:09] <mang0> cat: /lib/firmware: Is a directory
[11:09] <mang0>  bobweaver
[11:09] <mang0> ^
[11:09] <bobweaver> woops there should be a wildcard there
[11:09] <mang0> /lib/firmware/* bobweaver?
[11:09] <bobweaver> correct
[11:10] <mang0> bobweaver: I helluva lot of errors about "cat: /lib/firmware/x: Is a directory
[11:10] <bobweaver> just take the firmware part out
[11:11] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109925/ bobweaver I took out the part about .wireless too, obviously
[11:12] <tukja> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQUNaC_1bI&list=HL1343214324&feature=mh_lolz
[11:12] <LjL> !ot | tukja
[11:12] <golden_fish> "festival [options] [file0] [file1] ..." this is paste from terminal, any one can tech me it is means :)
[11:12] <auronandace> golden_fish: man festival
[11:13] <golden_fish> i did that
[11:14] <golden_fish> it is the way to use festival but i can't understand it
[11:14] <golden_fish> i think it can be use only from terminal
[11:15] <golden_fish> i decided to remove it
[11:16] <ntoll> hi, during start-up how do I get to the screen that allows me to select which kernel to start up with..?
[11:17] <ghostchick> ntoll, grub change the grub times
[11:17] <auronandace> ntoll: hold left shift during boot
[11:17] <ntoll> ghostchick, auronandace ta
[11:17]  * ntoll -> reboot ;-)
[11:18] <bobweaver> mang0,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109936/      << correct
[11:18] <aether> golden_fish: 'echo "hello golden_fish" | festival --tts'
[11:19] <mang0> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109938/ that was the result of the correct one you sent me
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> golden_fish: grab a text file with normal text in then run:  festival input.txt   for example
[11:19] <golden_fish> aether : i removed it, but what do you mean
[11:20] <bobweaver> mang0,  look at lines 27 and 28
[11:20] <aether> golden_fish: That is an example of how to use festival. ActionParsnip: I think that you need to use the --tts (text-to_speach) option
[11:20] <bobweaver> that needs to be installed mang0
[11:21] <ntoll> auronandace, thanks... that's what I needed :-)
[11:21] <bobweaver> mang0,  sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[11:21] <golden_fish> oh , okay thanks
[11:21] <mang0> bobweaver: Already installing, thanks
[11:21] <zetheroo> is installing Ubuntu on an SSD any different from installing it on a regular HDD?
[11:21] <auronandace> !yay | ntoll
[11:21] <ntoll> :-)
[11:22] <auronandace> zetheroo: the process is no different
[11:22] <mang0> bobweaver: Installed
[11:22] <bobweaver> mang0,  besides that you are looking good you might need to reboot
[11:22] <bobweaver> or rmmod and modprobe again like before
[11:22] <mang0> Yeah, I'll reboot now (need to anyway for some other things). I'll be back ina tick
[11:23] <zetheroo> auronandace: are there any usage complications with running Ubuntu on an SSD?
[11:24] <auronandace> zetheroo: i wouldn't know, i've never used a ssd, i wouldn't expect so
[11:24] <Erwyn> zetheroo: not as far as I know
[11:26] <alankila> zetheroo: I've used ubuntu on multiple SSD-based machines -- 3 in fact. No problems. I tend to enable the "discard" mount option also.
[11:26] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, well I rebooted. Another problem is that the drivers are not being started at boot
[11:27] <zetheroo> alankila: what is that option for?
[11:27] <bobweaver> mang0,  gksudo gedit /etc/modules         then add       b43legacy         to the bottom   of the list  save and reboot  , dang ssb not doing its job
[11:28] <alankila> zetheroo: long-term performance and flash life maintenance. discard makes filesystem send the TRIM command you may have heard of.
[11:29] <burnt> zetheroo, i am usung ubuntu 12.04 on a ssd now, funs like a dream... from finishing post, its about 8 seconds till login screen :)
[11:29] <alankila> zetheroo: to put it simply, it tells flash that data on some sectors on the device is not required by filesystem and that it can remove it whenever it feels like compacting used blocks
[11:29] <burnt> alankila, where is this option found once installed
[11:29] <alankila> burnt: you would add it to fstab
[11:30] <zetheroo> alankila: sounds useful
[11:30] <zetheroo> burnt: nice!
[11:30] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, rebooting again!
[11:31] <_gpg_> May i have your attention please, after uninstalling unity and gnome shell keeping only gnome-session-fallback, i cannot log into gnome, i got "Failed To Load session "ubuntu"" and the session terminates
[11:31] <_gpg_> how can i fix this please ?
[11:32] <ridcully1st_> hello evenrybody   could someone here help me with scim on lubuntu 12.04 ( i know its not the right channel but in #lubuntu ist nobody answering)
[11:32] <zetheroo> I am trying to figure out which direction to go .. ExpressCard SSD or SATA SSD .. reason is that my laptop (Thinkpad T400) does not support msata and I would like to keep my current 250GB Sata HDD for data, and have the OS and apps run from SSD .. but as far as I can tell ExpressCard SSD is slower than Sata SSD - is this correct?
[11:33] <alankila> zetheroo: I haven't seen an expresscard in years, but if the interface bandwidth is less than 300 MB/s it could be a problem -- in fact these days flash disks work up to 600 MB/s
[11:34] <bobweaver> _gpg_,  press ctrl+alt+f1 log in then rename the files back to what they where
[11:34] <mtfk> bobweaver: there is no any files like you write
[11:34] <zetheroo> alankila: so my only SSD option is to simply replace the current HDD altogether ...
[11:34] <pun33ater> sup yo's
[11:34] <alankila> zetheroo: I said no such thing
[11:34] <golden_fish> how to mount a diractory in Dosbox
[11:34] <alankila> anyway wikipedia implies that expresscard 2.0 should be fast enough when it comes to interface
[11:34] <mtfk> bobweaver: is there some common thing how to choose those rules ?
[11:35] <zetheroo> alankila: hehe ... but obviously I will not be getting 500MB/s from a ExpressCard SSD ... no!?
[11:35] <mang0> bobweaver: Rebooted, still not working! dmesg gives me this: [   41.936118] wlan2: direct probe to [mac address] timed out
[11:35] <alankila> zetheroo: I have no idea why you would say that. If the interface is capable of 500 MB/s, then it's up to the flash controller and chips and other engineering considerations what you will get.
[11:36] <bobweaver> mtfk, try to ask about that in the channel #ubuntu-motu
[11:36] <golden_fish> bobweaver : can you help me to mount a diractory in cosbox
[11:36] <mtfk> bobweaver: thanks
[11:36] <alankila> of course there's always some amount of overhead but it's not necessarily very large
[11:36] <bobweaver> mang0,   run the commands again that I gave you and lest see the output plz
[11:36] <mang0> bobweaver: coming up
[11:37] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109969/ bobweaver
[11:37] <alankila> zetheroo: but you need to know precisely how your expresscard is set up internally to understand what its bandwidth will be
[11:37] <krad> rmdir 'directory' <-- this removes the directory only if its empty?
[11:38] <zetheroo> alankila: well I said that about the speed because the ones I have been looking at were mentioning speeds of 115MB/s
[11:38] <bobweaver> mang0,  writing something up
[11:38] <alankila> "Expresscard PCI Express mode" might be acceptable, although another wikipedia page lists its speed at 250 MB/s
[11:38] <mang0> bobweaver: Thanks so much :) I would never be able to do any of this by myself, ahah
[11:39] <alankila> zetheroo: it's probably limited by the flash controller and/or chips, and not the expresscard interface itself, or at least nobody mentions something around 115 MB/s as speed limit for the interface.
[11:40] <alankila> zetheroo: anyway 115 MB/s is pretty slow as flash goes. Modern flash systems routinely do around 500 MB/s.
[11:40] <zetheroo> alankila: ok, so I am possibly looking at the cheaper/slower units ... I see these things get damn expensive
[11:40] <liquidee>  is video0 in /dev/ a video output or input?
[11:41] <bobweaver> mang0,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1109975/
[11:42] <bobweaver> mang0,  If that dont work then I will make a legacy package  if that dont work then we will just try the b43 stright up
[11:42] <Orpheon> I've recorded a video with Record My Desktop and would like to upload it to youtube. Googling revealed a mencoder command to convert the Record My Desktop ogv to avi, which works but gives horrible glitches in the video
[11:43] <Orpheon> ffmpeg says it's deprecated, and recommends using avconv instead
[11:43] <bobweaver> !info kazam | Orpheon
[11:43] <Orpheon> is there no option that wouldn't require re-recording?
[11:43] <Orpheon> :(
[11:43] <golden_fish> i need to run C++ on ubuntu using dosbox > how to mount the TC diractory
[11:44] <bobweaver> not sure Orpheon  maybe someone else knows alot more about screencasting then me I do not know that much about it but yeah gtk-record-mydesktop gives me troble also
[11:45] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, commands have finished
[11:45] <mang0> Orpheon: try ffscreencast
[11:45] <bobweaver> mang0,  sudo rmmod b43legacy && sudo modprobe b43legacy
[11:45] <bobweaver> anything ?
[11:45] <mang0> bobweaver: what was the command to reload the modules without---oh
[11:45] <mang0> heh
[11:47] <mang0> [  824.364129] wlan2: direct probe to [mac address] timed out bobweaver
[11:48] <bobweaver> mang0,  wlan2 huh *o                          rfkill list all && lsmod | grep b43legacy
[11:48] <golden_fish> the only issue in ubuntu that the is no C and D drive the system name it like this "678F82DC7691785C" help
[11:48] <okimoknow> so guys i've got a boot record problem I think. The Windows boot loader is still trying to load even though theres nothing there
[11:48] <integra> Hi
[11:49] <okimoknow> so I cant load my distro after it's installed
[11:49] <okimoknow> just gives me a windows error
[11:49] <mang0> !grub | okimoknow
[11:49] <okimoknow> i've reinstalled it twice
[11:49] <golden_fish> how to mount some thing in dosbox
[11:49] <mang0> See "Lost GRUB after installing Windows"
[11:49] <okimoknow> no i have deleted windows completely
[11:49] <integra>  Did anyone try installing Xen on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[11:49] <okimoknow> the remnants seem to be attacking
[11:50] <mang0> okimoknow: I know, but that will restore your GRUB
[11:50] <mang0> bobweaver: Still nothing
[11:50] <bobweaver> mang0,  Ok making a packgae 20 min or so
[11:50] <bobweaver> -lp time that is
[11:50] <mang0> Thankyou very much bobweaver! I have to go out in about an hour, but I'll be back later this afternoon
[11:51] <alexfp> i am in the right ubuntu ?
[11:52] <alexfp> anyone here ?
[11:52] <golden_fish> i know that the admin is a little bit busy but the dosbox is really can't mount any thing
[11:52] <golden_fish> it just open Z:\ and that is it
[11:53] <alexfp> hello
[11:53] <golden_fish> hello
[11:53] <Erwyn> alexfp: yes?
[11:54] <golden_fish> Erwyn : how to mount in dosbox
[11:55] <golden_fish> i met the ubuntu has no C or D drive
[11:55] <Erwyn> golden_fish: not sure this is the right place
[11:55] <golden_fish> there is just /home
[11:56] <Erwyn> join #dosbox
[11:56] <golden_fish> right place for what it is IT for ubuntu help right ?
[11:56] <bobweaver> mang0, you are on 12.04 correct ?
[11:56] <golden_fish> oh, ok
[11:56] <mang0> bobweaver: Yeah, 12.04 64-bit
[11:56] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you said it, to ubuntu, not dosbox
[11:56] <bobweaver> thanks
[11:57] <golden_fish> Erwyn : okay , okay, sorry :-)
[11:59] <Orpheon> bobweaver, kazam inverted the colors of the recording :/
[11:59] <liquidee> how do i redirect console output to a connected screen? without X :p
[11:59] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you want to mount something is that it?
[12:00] <golden_fish> yes
[12:00] <golden_fish> how to do that
[12:03] <golden_fish> Erwyn : yes, i want
[12:03] <Erwyn> in french documentation mount E /home/erwyn/thegoodfile
[12:03] <Erwyn> within dosbox
[12:03] <Erwyn> for exemple
[12:04] <golden_fish> erwyn : let me try that
[12:04] <kai__> hey
[12:04] <kai__> huh there is more then 2 kai;s in the chat already lolz
[12:05] <nag_> Hi Guys, every time when iam loggin i am facing "http://paste.kde.org/522494/"  of some error problem. Can someone guide me how can i solve it plz
[12:05] <kai__> reinstall xchat?
[12:05] <kai__> might work :/
[12:06] <bobweaver> Ok mang0  I made the driver well a moded one when you are ready
[12:06] <mang0> bobweaver: I'm here
[12:06] <golden_fish> Erwyn : thanks, thanks, thanks :)
[12:06] <kai__> kai__:
[12:06] <bobweaver> mang0,  still waiting on launchpad
[12:07] <mang0> bobweaver: I've not installled from launchpad before, you'll have to gimme instructions if it's anything complicated
[12:07] <aman__> Hi there
[12:07] <aman__> may i know how to set ip in ubuntu 12.04 as static
[12:07] <aman__> ?
[12:07] <aman__> everytime i set,and reboot the system,it doesnot get any ip.?
[12:08] <bobweaver> mang0,  1st lets install my repo     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:josephjamesmills/beta        then      sudo apt-get update
[12:08] <mang0> bobweaver: okay
[12:08] <aether> aman__: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[12:08] <kai__> bob anything intresting in your repo?
[12:09] <aman__> i have went through this document
[12:09] <yuvraj> Hi
[12:09] <bobweaver> kai__,  nothing to cool I am going to add Ubuntu tv v.v.soon
[12:09] <kai__> whats in the repo?
[12:09] <bobweaver> https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta
[12:09] <yuvraj> I want a small help guys
[12:09] <fidel_> !ask > yuvraj
[12:10] <bobweaver> for mang0  it is the driver that I just made
[12:10] <aman__> everytime i make changes to /etc/network/interfaces file and restart networking ,system doesnot get any ip and loses connection with internet too
[12:10] <yuvraj> How to add hindi font support on libre office?
[12:10] <bobweaver> well altered
[12:10] <aman__> and if i try ifup eth0 then it shows ignoring unknown eth0=eth0
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> aman__: can you pastebin the interfaces file please
[12:10] <aman__> any ideas please?
[12:10] <kai__> bobweaver: Is the launchpad like the macs? Screenshots on the website would be great.
[12:11] <aman__> i will do in a while ,right now i cant make changes to it ..pleas wait
[12:11] <mang0> bobweaver: Okay, update has finished
[12:11] <bobweaver> kai__, launchpad is where Ubuntu holds all its code and also you get a repo if you sign the Ubuntu Code of conduce
[12:11] <yuvraj> @Fidel can you guide me?
[12:11] <kai__> oh derp
[12:11] <bobweaver> mang0,  apt-cache search bobdriver
[12:11] <kai__> thought it was a app :/
[12:11] <kai__> taht you were talking about
[12:11] <bobweaver> kai__,  it holds apps that one makes
[12:12] <aman__> may i know what is that manual option there
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> aman__: it doesn't need changing, you are only reading the file
[12:12] <mang0> bobweaver: no result
[12:12] <aman__> actually during installation and even post installation i dint make any change to those files
[12:12] <bobweaver> mang0,  apt-cache search bobsdriver         << forgot the s
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> aman__: inet eth0 inet static     will set the interface to static IP, the next lines define the addressing
[12:13] <aman__> it automatically got all the proper network configuration and got an ip from dhcp
[12:13] <mang0> bobweaver: Uh, still nothing
[12:13] <Erwyn> golden_fish: you're welcome
[12:13] <aman__> but now i want my ip address to be static ,so where would i make changes?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> aman__: then you can use:  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:13] <yuvraj> Is anyone there? :(
[12:14] <aman__> thats what i am saying Sir
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aman__: you get the idea. Be sure to add:  auto eth0   so it comes up automatically
[12:14] <bobweaver> mang0,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit
[12:14] <aman__> anyhow we are making changes to the interfaces file right?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> aman__: yes
[12:14] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110028/ bobweaver
[12:14] <aman__> after making those changes ,i need to restart networking?
[12:14] <aman__> right?
[12:14] <bobweaver> mang0,  update again       sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <bobweaver> mang0,  then apt-cache search bobsdriver      might take a min or two to get to launchpad
[12:15] <mang0> bobweaver: Still nothing. I've gotta go and print something off, I'll try again when that's done
[12:16] <aman__> ?
[12:16] <fidel_> yuvraj: no - as i am not using libre at all - but consider asking as well in #libreoffice if you dont get an answer inhere or using a search engine
[12:16] <bobweaver> Yeah mang0  it say status = 	Pending
[12:16] <bobweaver> you can watch it here https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta/+packages
[12:16] <yuvraj> @Fidel Actually I fixed it myself.. am a ubuntu newbie :/
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> aman__: sudo service networking restart   should do it
[12:17] <yuvraj> I changed current layout to hindi
[12:17] <bobweaver> Once it says Published  run sudo apt-get update again and it will update the package list aka the package that you need that I just built   << mang0
[12:17] <aman__> ya after i restart the service ,my machine doesnt get that ip specified in interfaces
[12:17] <aman__> thats what i m asking
[12:17] <aman__> is there any problem which is being created by network-manager?
[12:18] <aman__> previously i was using fedora and it was not having such setup
[12:18] <ascheel> When making a backup, is it safe to say that I should back up everything except /dev /sys and /proc?
[12:19] <Erwyn> ascheel: is it a personal backup?
[12:19] <ascheel> Erwyn: it is
[12:19] <Erwyn> what do you want to backup?
[12:20] <ascheel> Erwyn: the system in its entirety
[12:20] <Erwyn> hu
[12:20] <Erwyn> clonezilla
[12:20] <ascheel> with possibility of restoration on a new machine
[12:20] <ascheel> No, not clonezilla.  That requires the machinen to be booted to a LiveCD
[12:20] <yuvraj> Ascheel make an iso image file of your hard drive
[12:20] <ascheel> machine*
[12:20] <cppby> HI ...~~~
[12:21] <ascheel> I'm looking at making rolling backups with rsync.  It's not feasible to require my machine to be down for the backup process
[12:21] <Erwyn> ascheel: and? what is the problem
[12:21] <yuvraj>  one small question, I had installed skype but my microphone wasnt working so I re-installed pulse audio.. Microphone is fine but volume setting has disappeard from taskbar
[12:21] <ascheel> Erwyn: clonezilla requires the machine to be booted to a LiveCD.  This needs to happen while the machine is live and running.
[12:21] <Erwyn> ascheel: ok
[12:22] <Erwyn> ascheel: so this is my proposal
[12:22] <Erwyn> ascheel: do you often change installed softwares?
[12:22] <ascheel> Yes.
[12:22] <Erwyn> shit
[12:22] <Erwyn> sorry
[12:23] <Erwyn> il is a dev machine or a test one?
[12:23] <Erwyn> backing up the entire system sounds a bit… overkill
[12:23] <ascheel> I know how to handle the backup process itself.  I need to know which directories are unecessary such as /dev /sys and /proc
[12:24] <alankila> ascheel: you should look at the -x option maybe
[12:24] <ascheel> Ubuntu will recreate the contents of those directories on boot, I don't know if there are others I'm not thinking of.
[12:24] <Erwyn> ascheel: I don't think there are others
[12:24] <aether> Erwyn: you might want to look into lvm and snapshots
[12:24] <Erwyn> aether: ascheel not Erwyn
[12:24] <aether> Erwyn: sorry
[12:25] <mang0> bobweaver: I've got to get ready to go out, (job interview!) but I'll be back later to continue. Hopefully it won't be pending by then :P
[12:25] <bobweaver> mang0,  it just worked try again
[12:25] <mang0> bobweaver: Hopefully you'll still be here too, but if not, thankyou so much for all your help :)
[12:25] <mang0> oh
[12:25] <yuvraj> Best of luck mango
[12:25] <mang0> Thanks!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> aman__: if the network is defined in /etc/network/interfaces then network manager won't be able to manage the interface
[12:26] <Erwyn> ascheel: it sounds like a bad idea in my opinion
[12:26] <mang0> bobweaver: Well it says published now, but apt-cache is still coming up empty
[12:27] <Erwyn> if you are worried about conf files, only backup them
[12:27] <ascheel> Erwyn: it works just fine.  Incremental backups using rsync are incredibly effective.
[12:27] <bobweaver> mang0, you ran sudo apt-get update correct ?
[12:27] <mang0> bobweaver: Yup
[12:27] <delac> in Evolution, what does the red exclamation mark column signify?
[12:27] <ascheel> Erwyn: during restore, just need to drop the files back onto a live Linux install (preferably with the same Distro/Version, reboot and everything is golden
[12:28] <ascheel> Erwyn: the best part, it can be done live.
[12:28] <bobweaver> might have to wait a little bit longer I will be around today thou so do you you got to good luck with the interview
[12:28] <ascheel> The backup half, that is
[12:28] <bobweaver> mang0,  ^%^
[12:28] <mang0> bobweaver: Great, see you later!
[12:29] <Erwyn> ascheel: puppet
[12:29] <aman__> wait Sir i ll show u
[12:29] <Erwyn> I don't know, it sounds really too much, but maybe it's just me
[12:29] <jacta> Erwyn, do you know if theres a way to check current "seedtime" for a transmission torrent?
[12:30] <ascheel> KISS.  Keep It Simple, Stupid.
[12:30] <bobweaver> Yeah mang0  it says that it is going to start in 19 minutes    https://launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+archive/beta/+build/3680872
[12:31] <manoharuss> hi guys
[12:31] <delac> what point is there to have a exclamation mark, if there is no explanation what it means. Even a little tooltip would have worked.
[12:31] <Erwyn> ascheel: and it is not in my opinion but that's good if it satisfies you
[12:31] <Erwyn> jacta: you installed web interface?
[12:31] <jacta> Erwyn, installed the daemon as you said and have it up running
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> delac: what if you hover the mouse over the exclamation mark?
[12:32] <Erwyn> jacta: so i don't know, i use it with web interface
[12:32] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04...could u pls tell me how to
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> jacta: are you running transmission on the desktop or as a service in CLI?
[12:32] <kai__> hey
[12:32] <jacta> As daemon and webinterface
[12:32] <mynotes> hello
[12:33] <delac> ActionParsnip: well, I kinda already tried. That is why I was whining about the tooltip.
[12:33] <mynotes> test
[12:33] <manoharuss> can anyone help
[12:33] <manoharuss> pls
[12:33] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:34] <mynotes> hi. anyone can help me. i'm using ubuntu 10.04. after restart my desktop. after log in i got a black screen
[12:35] <manoharuss> i wanna enable button click sound like in mac in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:35] <aman__> http://fpaste.org/NckC/
[12:35] <jacta> Erwyn, guess its the same with me? daemon with webintreface?
[12:35] <aman__> Sir this is my current interface file
[12:35] <aman__> by default it was like this
[12:35] <zonefull> Hello
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> aman__: thats the default file...
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> aman__: i thought you were adding stuff
[12:37] <mynotes> can anyone help
[12:37] <aman__> now i want to make my ip static and ip shoukld be <IP_ADDRESS> with subnet <IP_ADDRESS> and gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:37] <aman__> Sir i was adding the stuff but due to problems i reverted back to default
[12:37] <ascheel> mynotes: not unless you ask a question
[12:37] <maz__> Hi I am new here..
[12:37] <aman__> did i make the question clear sir?
[12:38] <ascheel> maz__: congratulations!  Unfortunately, we're out of door prizes, though.
[12:38] <mynotes> ascheel: my problem. after login on my desktop i got black screen
[12:38] <ascheel> mynotes: anything on it?  Icons?  Do you get panels?  Anything?
[12:38] <zonefull> im also new :P
[12:38] <mynotes> ascheel:  nothing on login screen then black screen
[12:39] <mynotes> *only
[12:39] <maz__> so what are you talking about here guys?
[12:39] <aman__> ?
[12:39] <ascheel> mynotes: this is drastic, but try moving ~/.gconf to something else like ~/.gconf.backup
[12:39] <ascheel> then log in
[12:39] <namoamitabuddha> How to use JRE?
[12:40] <Erwyn> jacta: so go to the web interface
[12:40] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: sounds like a question for #java
[12:40] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: #jave might be a place for Sun Java. I prefer the free software, say OpenJDK.
[12:41] <namoamitabuddha> I found that JRE is unavailable in my web browser.
[12:41] <x_> Привет всемм
[12:41] <mynotes> ascheel thanks i'm still getting black screen
[12:41] <ascheel> mynotes: sorry, also move ~/.gconfd
[12:41] <kale> how do i install sun java on lucid?
[12:42] <aman__> http://fpaste.org/rjw8/
[12:42] <aman__> sir u may check the file now
[12:42] <mynotes> ascheel what i remember the message 'session' expire on first message then i forgot the complete message
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[12:42] <aman__> \after modification it luks like this
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> The response is "Something is wrong. Java is not working."
[12:43] <aether> aman__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110054/
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> aman__: let me make a new pastebin for you
[12:44] <ascheel> mynotes: what version of Ubuntu you running?
[12:44] <aman__> sure
[12:44] <aman__> @aether
[12:45] <mynotes> ascheel 11.04
[12:45] <aman__> my gatway is <IP_ADDRESS> not <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> aman__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:45] <aman__> Sir its 12.04
[12:45] <aman__> precise it shows
[12:45] <kale> namoamitabuddha: there is no repository for java?
[12:45] <sudo-apt-get> I am willing to pay $5000 for 3 months on contract basis. You need experience with c++/qt. Its a multiplayer poker game which has present scope to run on lan and it needs upnp/dlna integration later. Any takers?
[12:46] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: wrong channel
[12:46] <jacta> Erwyn, im there - does it count total from start - or from done
[12:46] <Erwyn> jacta: for the activity time?
[12:46] <sudo-apt-get> LjL, why?
[12:46] <namoamitabuddha> kale: OpenJDK 6 JRE is installed but when surfing Internet I found that it did not work.
[12:47] <jacta> Erwyn, what field is it taken from?
[12:47] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: this channel is strictly for Ubuntu technical support. your request basically amounts to spam.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> aman__: http://fpaste.org/pPMU/
[12:47] <kale> earlier i believe there was a repository for sun java
[12:47] <ascheel> mynotes: move .gconf .gconfd and .gnome2 (if it exists) out of the way.  See if that helps at all.
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> Sun Java is NON-FREE, or PROPRIETARY.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> sudo-apt-get: i'd ask in #c++
[12:47] <oooaaaoooo1> whats ubuntus general chat room called again?
[12:47] <Erwyn> jacta: select your torrent, then in right upper corner there is a "i"
[12:47] <LjL> !ot | oooaaaoooo1
[12:47] <jacta> Erwyn, yapp
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: it's free as in beer :)
[12:48] <mynotes> ascheel: okay. thanks. i'll try
[12:48] <ascheel> oooaaaoooo1: look at the /topic
[12:48] <Erwyn> click it and you'll have some informations
[12:48] <oooaaaoooo1> yup thnx
[12:48] <Erwyn> jacta: about activity time and so on
[12:48] <ascheel> oooaaaoooo1: sorry, that doesn't include that anymore.  I think it did at one time.
[12:48] <rocky_> hello
[12:48] <sudo-apt-get> ActionParsnip, #c++ is blocked.
[12:48] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: Well, FSF does go against them.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: fine but it's free to install, download and use
[12:49] <mynotes> ascheel:  for clarification i'll will log in through console. right?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> sudo-apt-get: or try #c
[12:49] <jacta> Erwyn, last activity: 15546 days ago one says
[12:49] <kale> sudo-apt-get: i can join c++, so not blocked
[12:49] <ascheel> mynotes: that's fine, yeah.  Ctrl-Alt-F1
[12:49] <Erwyn> jacta: yes, activity
[12:49] <jacta> Aint that alot of days ago ;p
[12:49] <LjL> the channel is ##c++
[12:49] <Erwyn> jacta: but you havve also running time
[12:49] <sudo-apt-get> kale,  Cannot join #c++ (Channel is invite only).
[12:50] <LjL> sudo-apt-get: /join ##c++
[12:50] <rocky_> i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:50] <Erwyn> and things like this, i think you are looking for running time
[12:50] <aman__> after that sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[12:50] <jacta> What does the "stop seeding if idle time(m)" goes after?
[12:50] <LjL> although i'm not entirely sure they'll appreciate job offers in ##c++ either
[12:50] <jacta> ^ Erwyn
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: that is a known issue in Quantal, are you sure you aren't using Quantal?
[12:51] <Siegel> hello people. i just turned computer on again, after installing 12.04 and all of a sudden the language of my computer was chinese, and it was english the last time
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> aman__: sure, or reboot
[12:51] <Siegel> can anyone recognize this bizarre problem?
[12:51] <aether> aman__: I prefer 'ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0'
[12:51] <aman__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110066/
[12:51] <namoamitabuddha> Got it. Icedtea-7-plugin is needed.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> aman__: then just reboot
[12:52] <rocky_> i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:52] <aman__> i have tried that too,after reboot it will not get any ip
[12:52] <aman__> and no network acces
[12:52] <aman__> should i try ifdown eth0
[12:52] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: But we have alternatives, such as OpenJDK, which are FREE as in FREE SPEECH.
[12:53] <kale> sudo-apt-get: get an invitation, OR register
[12:53] <aman__> it shows ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[12:54] <nja> Who here plays Tribes: Ascend?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: if the extra features in java are required then it should be used
[12:54] <bazhang> !ot | nja
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: please drop the caps. I can read lower case
[12:54] <mynotes> ascheel.   i'm still getting black screen
[12:54] <rocky_> ActionParsnip,  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: software is a tool for a job so rather than holding yourself back for the sake of opensourceness, you shoukd use what works
[12:55] <ascheel> mynotes: I think we've ruled out a bad configuration in your stuff.  Got anything fun in /var/log ?
[12:55] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: The word FREE should be emphasized on again and again so that we can fight against the proprietary softwares.
[12:55] <Intraframe> Greetings from Sweden
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: are there bugs reported?
[12:55] <namoamitabuddha> ActionParsnip: such as Windows.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> namoamitabuddha: I just use what works
[12:55] <rocky_> ActionParsnip,  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:55] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: proprietery software is not all evil, however that's definitely off topic
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: you said
[12:55] <aman__> Sir ,did u see the pastes?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> aman__: yes, did you try my suggestion?
[12:56] <aether> aman__: 'sudo ip route flush table all; ifdown eth0; ifup eth0'
[12:56] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, i said this  i am using Ubuntu 12.04, its suspend is not workig OK, it goes to suspend mode, when i turn on from suspend mode, the screen is black, i don't see the password window
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: report a bug
[12:56] <Intraframe> =)
[12:56] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Ubuntu, or Ubuntu GNU/Linux, which is a kind of GNU/Linux, approves of the philosophy of FSF.
[12:56] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, can you something debug
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> rocky_: i don't know what to suggest
[12:57] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: that's irrelevant.  It's still off topic as to the philosophies behind them.  This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[12:57] <rocky_> ActionParsnip, let me tell you what error message i get, this may help to debug
[12:57] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: So your problem is that your browser(s) do not recognize OpenJDK is that correct?
[12:57] <mynotes> ascheel i also hear the sound during log in
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: I installed icedtea plugin and now I'll test it again.
[12:58] <golden_fish> i have to restart >be right back<
[12:58] <ascheel> mynotes: anything in /var/log?
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Before that, I'll purge some useless packages.
[12:59] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: I'd worry about that later unless your hard up for disk space
[12:59] <mynotes> ascheel cd /var/log have a lots of file. and i remember last night i install php
[13:00] <ascheel> mynotes: php shouldn't affect it.  Does /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages show anything that may look relevant
[13:00] <mynotes> maybe it affect my configuration
[13:00] <ascheel> ?
[13:00] <sandieg> hello, is there anyway of installing ugly plugins pack and MPEG1,2,3 plugins trough APT-GET ?!?!?!
[13:00] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: Now it's okay.
[13:00] <sandieg> If you know how let me know
[13:00] <ascheel> namoamitabuddha: so icedtea was necessary?
[13:00] <namoamitabuddha> ascheel: yes.
[13:01] <jrib> sandieg: why?
[13:01] <sandieg> jrib i need to install them
[13:01] <sandieg> to listen to internet radio
[13:01] <jrib> sandieg: apt-cache search -n ugly, then install what you want
[13:02] <sandieg> thx
[13:02] <j0lly>  /msg NickServ identify sticazzi
[13:02] <jrib> j0lly: change your password now
[13:02] <j0lly> -.-
[13:02] <sandieg> lollllllllllllll
[13:02] <saml> how can I make cmd not exit when quiting gnome-terminal?  I tried      nohup cmd &  disown -a
[13:02] <sandieg> one of this days happend the same to me
[13:02] <sandieg> :PPPPP
[13:02] <jrib> sandieg: yes.  (be more specific)
[13:02] <ascheel> saml: nohup cmd &    <--- proper way
[13:03] <jrib> saml: yes.  (be more specific)
[13:03] <ascheel> but the 'disown' I'm unfamiliar with
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> sandieg: try: apt-cache seach plug | grep ugly
[13:03] <saml> ascheel, jrib I created a script  called ~/bin/cmd  (~/bin is in PATH).  cmd  does  nohup ~/path/to/actual/cmd &       when I execute cmd, it's attached
[13:04] <pb> If im running ubuntu 2d. can I switch to gnome to h ave advanced customization?
[13:04] <saml> I need to  nohup cmd &  in the terminal even though the script, cmd,  already does nohup ~/path/to/actual/cmd &
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> pb: Unity2D uses Gnome as the DE
[13:04] <mynotes> ascheel vim syslogs lots of message
[13:04] <ascheel> saml: the script WILL be attached, but any processes that *IT* spawns will not be
[13:04] <ascheel> mynotes: put a hundred lines or so in a pastebin, please.
[13:05] <ascheel> saml: correction, any processes it spawns with nohup and & will not be attached.
[13:05] <pb> so obtain a unity 2d editor and ill be able to customize my gui
[13:05] <saml> so how can I make  a script so that when it's run, itself and its child processes are disattached so that I can close the terminal
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> pb: do you want the old Gnome2 look by any chance?
[13:05] <ascheel> saml: execute the script itself with 'nohup' and &
[13:05] <saml> in other distributions, the script, cmd,   behaves the way i wanted to
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> saml: use the nohup command
[13:06] <saml> i dont' want to use nohup in the terminal.. that's the point of creating the script
[13:06] <ascheel> saml: it's got nothing to do with Ubuntu.  If you want a second opinion, join #bash and ask again there.
[13:06] <saml> maybe i'll alias
[13:06] <pb> i think out of all the gnomes.. gnome / classic.. I enjoy the classic.  thats the one with the bar at the bottom correct?
[13:06] <ascheel> pb: indeed.  I believe that's now 'gnome shell'
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saml: then make a launcher for it in /usr/share/
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> saml: then make a launcher for it in /usr/share/applications/
[13:07] <pb> just trying to move away from ubuntu 2d and explore my options with custimizing 2d gui's.  limited tho w/o 3d graphics
[13:07] <saml> no.. i want to launch in terminal
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> synju: and you can launch it from Unity
[13:07] <day_> i dont want a launcher... i want it to be sentinent!
[13:07] <saml> i thoguht it was gnome-terminal.. but same thing happens with xterm
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> pb: could try LXDE or KDE
[13:08] <ascheel> pb: Try xfce or fluxbox
[13:08] <ascheel> pb: or what ActionParsnip said.
[13:08] <pb> those will be compatable with my 2d graphics hardware?
[13:09] <linux_newbie> can anyone tell me how to set up USB in linux..please..i am using a montavista kernel pro v5.0
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> pb: sure
[13:09] <jrib> saml: what  you describe works fine here.  Example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110090/ .  So again, be more specific
[13:10] <relisher> pb I can also recommend openbox. Much better look then fluxbox, lightweight, and 2d
[13:10] <pb> thank you guys very much. ill give them a wiki to catch up.
[13:11] <aman__> i reebooted and as i told you i dint get any ip
[13:11] <linux_newbie> how to set up USB in linux?im using montavista kernel 2.6.18 please help
[13:11] <aman__> even i was not able to ping 192.168.62.oo network
[13:11] <rocky_> aman__, what is your OS issue?
[13:11] <saml> jrib, maybe it's the program (sublime text). gedit does work as expected
[13:12] <rocky_> aman__, or may be NW issue?
[13:12] <aman__> so i commented out the lines and restarted network-manager and it worked
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> linux_newbie: usb is default enabled in ubuntu
[13:12] <aman__> how to assign static ip to my system now?
[13:12] <rocky_> aman__, to assign static ip configure it in router
[13:13] <arpad2_> hi
[13:13] <aman__> Cm'on man i want it locally
[13:13] <rocky_> aman__, set the ip lease not to expire
[13:14] <aman__> i want to do it the way written in ubuntu documentation
[13:14] <aman__> and its not working
[13:14] <jrib> saml: I don't know your use-case, but maybe consider using dmenu_run instead
[13:15] <jrib> (or similar)
[13:15] <aman__> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[13:15] <aman__> please  help
[13:15] <aman__> or if its a bug then how to report it?
[13:16] <linux_newbie> i have enabled kernel support.I am developing an application for an ip camera on davinci dm365 evaluation board.my part is to connect it to a network using a USB 3g dongle.Normally when a USB 3G dongle is plugged in it should be detected as a flash drive first and then it needs to be mode switched to modem mode.Despite of enabling kernel support,the dongle is not getting detected and I am new to USB..please help
[13:16] <Erwyn> jacta: kay?
[13:16] <brahim> sl8
[13:18] <Siegel-> in case anyone was wondering- the weird bug i just experienced. upon booting, computer language switched to chinese on 12.04. you go to system settings>user accounts>language>upper most option>reboot>problem solved.
[13:18] <aman__> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[13:21] <arpad2_> I used the sudo pppoencf command and after this can't connect with Network Manager to the net. any idea how to restore this? thanx!
[13:21] <BlueEagle> !guidelines | aman__
[13:22] <BlueEagle> aman__: Please read the guidelines. Especially note the part about !enter and !patience. A line with 35 question marks does not make me want to help you at all.
[13:23] <BlueEagle> !bugs > aman__
[13:28] <jacta> is there a way to check what the name of netcard in laptop is?
[13:28] <medicineman> mornin'
[13:28] <Erwyn> jacta: lspci?
[13:28] <drenn> morning
[13:29] <pb> ok 2d graphic cards blow chunks. anyway to change them w/o purchasing  the hardware?
[13:29] <medicineman> anyone have any artifacting issues w/ Xubuntu and nvidia?
[13:29] <slikts> where can I change the shift+alt+uparrow shortcuts?
[13:29] <talsamon> jacta, sudo lshw|grep net
[13:30] <slikts> i.e., the expo mode
[13:30] <BlueEagle> medicineman: Nope.
[13:30] <medicineman> BlueEagle: Not sure what the issue is.  if i leave it on and idle for more than an hour i get squares all over my screen
[13:31] <BlueEagle> medicineman: That's the screen saver...
[13:31] <slikts> f**k me, I can feel the energy draining from this. why isn't shift+alt+uparrow in the Keyboard config panel…
[13:31] <medicineman> BlueEagle: so just remove the screen saver?
[13:31] <BlueEagle> medicineman: I am ofgourse joking. Does a screen shot expose the artifacting?
[13:32] <medicineman> BlueEagle: i'll see if i can get one.  i also figured you were jokin.  wanted to play along
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> slikts: check in ccsm
[13:34] <rloehning_home> Hi Everybody. Is it a known issue that Firefox downloads break when switching users on 12.04?
[13:34] <slikts> ActionParsnip: first I need to figure out how to install it
[13:35] <pb> I run radeon 7200. how do set it up to run 3d accelerated graphics?
[13:35] <medicineman> BlueEagle: Are you using nvidia-current?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> slikts: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:37] <BlueEagle> medicineman: I am.
[13:37] <slikts> ActionParsnip: already done, thanks
[13:38] <pb> help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  states Radeon 7200 has good 3d acceleration support. how do I enable it to run 3d?
[13:38] <medicineman> BlueEagle: then i'm not sure what the issue is then.  what video card?
[13:40] <Erwyn> pb: install the drivers?
[13:40] <pb> yes please.
[13:41] <pb> ubuntu 12.04 device manager won't see my radeon 7200.
[13:41] <Erwyn> pb: ubuntu should propose you to install them through the proprietary drivers interface
[13:41] <pb> should.. dosn't. way to do it manually?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> pb: try:  sudo lshw -C display
[13:41] <drenn> I need for the terminal to be disabled. My brother has broken his last 4 reinstalls of ubuntu.
[13:42] <jrib> drenn: don't give him sudo privileges
[13:42] <Erwyn> xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:42] <medicineman> drenn: have him keep breaking it, and tell him to fix it
[13:42] <pb> vga compatibale r100 32 bits
[13:42] <medicineman> drenn: only way he'll learn
[13:42] <Erwyn> or catalyst, but i'm sorry i don't know that much ati cards
[13:42] <Erwyn> i only buy nvidia
[13:43] <drenn> fair enough. he is almost 11, time for him to man up.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Erwyn: same
[13:43] <medicineman> lol
[13:45] <drenn> I love my lil bro.
[13:45] <drenn> The reason he switched was for apt-get moo.
[13:46] <Erwyn> pb: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:46] <pb>  xserver-xorg-video-radeon TY
[13:46] <pb> missed it the first time.
[13:46] <Erwyn> don't guaranty it will work
[13:46] <pb> checking into it.. howd you come across that page if i may ask
[13:46] <Erwyn> sudo apt-cache search radeon
[13:47] <pb> my google searches turned up allot of dead ends.. saying its supported but not telling me why.
[13:47] <pb> or how to enable..
[13:47] <Erwyn> sudo apt-cache search radeon
[13:47] <pb> thanks allot.. ill check it out.
[13:47] <Erwyn> give you results and afaik when supported, should be there
[13:47] <Coffee321> I am an Ubuntu amateur user running 12.04 lts (and have happily killed windows!!!!) I am wondering if there is a way to enable a better then standard graphics mode, using a Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 graphics card on my 32 bit system...?!?
[13:48] <Erwyn> in the xorg package
[13:48] <Erwyn> Coffee321: what do you want to do with your card?
[13:48] <Erwyn> what is the problem with it?
[13:49] <Coffee321> I am concerned that I have not enabled acceleration.
[13:49] <Erwyn> how do you know it?
[13:49] <pb>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon    0 installed..
[13:49] <Erwyn> pb: already installed
[13:49] <pb> indeed.
[13:50] <Erwyn> pb
[13:51] <Erwyn> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:51] <Erwyn> what does it say?
[13:51] <srabtnom> hi all, i just had an horrible time trying to do a fresh install ... the installer just crashes when i open it ... i "checked disk for defects" and there were none ... what can i do ?
[13:51] <pb> glxinfo not installed.
[13:51] <Erwyn> pb: if needed install mesa-utils
[13:51] <srabtnom> ubuntu really does a big mistake by endorsing so many laptops for dell
[13:51] <pb> allright
[13:51] <Coffee321> well I have enabled the card it's self & Ubuntu recognizes it. however I don't know if 3d acceleration is working. I don't think it is. And the Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 is a low end card - but dose have the capability.
[13:52] <srabtnom> they're all certified but after an upgrade they start to suck horribely ... and bugs are not fixed i feel like i'm the only ubuntu user on this laptop
[13:52] <Erwyn> Coffee321: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[13:52] <Erwyn> Coffee321: and then glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:52] <pb> Direct rendering Yes
[13:52] <Coffee321> also I have not been able to add an xorg.conf file to my system - it will not give me permission to add it.
[13:52] <Erwyn> pb: already activated
[13:52] <diverdude> Are there any PPA for boost 1.5?
[13:52] <te> Coffee321: gksudo
[13:53] <pb> erwyn: so then I log in in ubuntu but shows up unity 2d..
[13:53] <te> Coffee321: or sudo
[13:53] <Erwyn> pb: what do you mean by unity 2d
[13:53] <ModFather> Hi There, i was on channel PHP and they send me here, i own an ubuntu 12.04 i need to install php5 without suhosin patch
[13:53] <pb> ubuntu 2d i ment to say
[13:53] <Erwyn> Coffee321: install mesa-utils and do glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[13:53] <pb> login is ubuntu.  desktop session is ubuntu -2d
[13:54] <Coffee321> right I have used sudo commands - had to, because Ubuntu did not recognize my graphics card when I first reinstalled it.
[13:54] <Erwyn> pb: yes but what do you mean by ubuntu 2d?
[13:54] <pb> im running in 2d mode.
[13:54] <te> Coffee321: What is your display adapter?
[13:54] <te> Coffee321: What does lspci  say about it?
[13:55]  * genii-around thinks about taking "coffee" off his highlight list
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: what are the symptoms
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: how can you say that
[13:55] <pb> but all signs point to me being able to access 3d accelerated graphics
[13:55] <Coffee321> ok ty trying that now.
[13:55] <Erwyn> pb: what did you expect and don't have?
[13:55] <decci> How to install java on ubuntu 10.04
[13:55] <pb> whats command for bring up what gui your running?
[13:55] <decci> It doesnt seem to be in repository
[13:55] <te> Coffee321: lspci |grep VGA will probably tell you in one line.
[13:55] <pb> I cannot do basic 3d tweaks such as launch bar icon size .
[13:56] <auronandace> Erwyn: unity2d uses metacity rather than compiz, takes up less resources
[13:56] <relisher> decci - try openjdk
[13:56] <te> Coffee321: Do not paste more than one line to this channel.
[13:56] <Coffee321> direct rendering "YES"
[13:56] <decci> relisher: what command? apt-get install openjdk?
[13:56] <bobweaver> Does anyone know how to open the "Active Connections"  User interface from the command line. Like the same as going to nm-applet->Connection Information   that Gui thing. How do I launch that from the terminal ?
[13:56] <relisher> I believe so.
[13:57] <te> bobweaver: Does ifconfig or iwconfig not tell you what you need to know?
[13:57] <Coffee321> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[13:58] <pb> as far as I can tell radeon 7200 is 3d supported.. yet im running ubuntu - 2d mode for my desktop session.. Do I need to install a driver or some package to enable 3d ?
[13:58] <te> Coffee321: What display driver are you trying to install? (And how are you installing it?)
[13:58] <pb> bah. out of time /afk
[13:58] <pb> bbl folks.
[13:58] <pb> thanks for the assistance
[13:59] <auronandace> pb: 7200? that sounds rather old
[13:59] <Coffee321> my display driver is installed - I just can't seem to get my desktop out of standard
[13:59] <pb> legacy =)
[13:59] <bobweaver> te, No I need that window for ui design
[13:59] <auronandace> pb: i doubt compiz would work with that
[13:59] <pb> it dosn't..
[14:00] <auronandace> pb: then how do you expect to run unity 3d
[14:00] <te> bobweaver: That window?  Which window?
[14:01] <Coffee321> pb: your problem is rather, the same as mine
[14:02] <auronandace> Coffee321: what graphics card do you have?
[14:02] <Coffee321> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 this is my graphics card.
[14:02] <sandieg> guys what is hroot@bt:~# apt-get install gpm
[14:02] <sandieg> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. appening? im getting this msg from the sistem all the time,
[14:03] <relisher> Is there an ubuntu for android channel?/
[14:03] <DJones> sandieg: Have you run the command it asks you to run?
[14:03] <auronandace> Coffee321: not sure about intels sorry
[14:03] <Baylink> QUERY: Trying to install mtop with apt-get on Ubuntu 12.04 from Amazon AMI.  It's apparently *trying to connect to the MySQL engine during the install*, without a password, and failing.  It *still* does it when I try to install the next package for something else, so clearly something's stuck in its craw.  Not sure if I should be asking #ubuntu, #apt-get, or #mtop; suggestions welcome.  Newbie to Ubuntu/debian, but 30 years of Unix
[14:03] <auronandace> Coffee321: i assume it should work
[14:03] <te> Coffee321: you can't get your desktop out of standard what?
[14:03] <genii-around> relisher: #ubuntu-phone   but not much activity there
[14:03] <Coffee321> no problem there auronandace :)
[14:03] <relisher> Thank you
[14:03] <DJones> sandeman: Its an error message that something hasn't worked properly with installing something, so you have to run the command it suggests to fix it
[14:04] <te> Coffee321: Again:  What display driver did you attmept to install?  And how did you attemp to install it?
[14:04] <Coffee321> Intel is rather proprietary
[14:04] <DJones> sandeman: Sorry mis-tab-complete
[14:04] <Mari_> Hi guys, is anyone able to help me install Ubuntu onto my new harddrive but through a bootable USB?
[14:04] <auronandace> Coffee321: no it isn't
[14:04] <te> Coffee321: The display driver that Ubuntu used by default should have been sufficient.
[14:04] <Kage> what do I need to do to get a application into ubuntu's repos?
[14:04] <auronandace> Coffee321: intel is included in the kernel
[14:04] <Coffee321> the display driver is installed and it was glasen/intel-driver
[14:05] <te> Coffee321: The display driver that Ubuntu used by default should have been sufficient.
[14:05] <Coffee321> te: by default my graphics was unknown
[14:06] <te> Coffee321:  Which was probably i915
[14:06] <te> Coffee321: Unknown by _________ ?
[14:07] <te> Coffee321: lsmod |grep i915
[14:07] <Coffee321> te: unknown by Ubuntu - completely unknown so It was lagging - especially with flash player
[14:07] <Kage> never mind, it is already in the repo
[14:07] <Coffee321> oops
[14:08] <Coffee321> te: now it's doing better like 1 step better no lag - however experiance is still reported
[14:08] <te> Coffee321: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:08] <Coffee321> te: to be standard by the system
[14:09] <te> Coffee321: THen how can we help you?
[14:09] <te> Coffee321: Do you have a question?
[14:11] <Coffee321> te: I think I need to finish my coffee before I continue (just got up)
[14:11] <Coffee321> te: however - my question is how do I get the 3d to work. I can't manage it myself
[14:12] <Erwyn> Coffee321: please glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[14:12] <Coffee321> erwyn: yes it reports "Yes" in Red
[14:13] <Erwyn> Coffee321: though it is activated
[14:13] <zetheroo> any firsthand accounts of someone using hot swap on a Thinkpad running Ubuntu?
[14:14] <Coffee321> Erwyn: I'm still new to Ubuntu - this "yes" is a good step right?
[14:14] <Erwyn> Coffee321: it means: yes your graphical acceleration (3d) is activated
[14:14] <uglyandstupid> can anyone tell me how to add new sudoers on 12.04 ? it looks like the admin group doesnt exist any more (tried sudo "usermod -a -G admin username" i got usermod: group 'admin' does not exist)
[14:15] <Coffee321> Erwin: te: Thankyou! that's what I needed to know.
[14:15] <Erwyn> Coffee321: you'r welcome, Amike
[14:15] <jacta> Ubuntu should have a daemon to disable trackpad while typing, should be installed but not used - anyone remember the name?
[14:15] <te> Coffee321: free |grep Mem > sysinfo.txt ; cat /proc/cpuinfo >> sysinfo.txt ; grep  Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log >> sysinfo.txt ; pastebinit sysinfo.txt ; rm sysinfo.txt #..And paste resulting URL here.
[14:16] <jacta> found it, nvm! syndaemon
[14:16] <theannouncer444> hello world
[14:16] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, theres is a sudo group, but all I do is add users to /etc/sudoers
[14:17] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, theres also an adm group
[14:17] <uglyandstupid> compdoc: trying with this one indeed
[14:18] <zetheroo> is there a solution out there for Pidgin's contact window not showing up in 12.04 ?
[14:18] <uglyandstupid> compdoc: with adm group "user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[14:18] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, when you install Ubuntu and it asks for a username, it adds that user to several groups
[14:18] <compdoc> uglyandstupid, yup, thats what happens
[14:19] <Baylink> Oops.  Not sure how I fell off the channel; my QUERY above still open, about mtop and apt-get.
[14:19] <DJones> zetheroo: Sounds similar to the problem I have, I just close pidgin and restart it and the contact window appears
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: does it show with ALT+TAB?
[14:19] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm thinking of installing Xfce as my DE but I can't understand how to install it, can I get some help with this?
[14:19] <DJones> zetheroo: Not sure if there is a fix for it
[14:20] <DarkSim> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[14:20] <zetheroo> DJones: yeah - same here ... bloody annoying - ha
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:20] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: no
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> .help
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> !help
[14:20] <KYle111111111111> @help
[14:21] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys i am trying to change the GUI installer image/logos
[14:21] <DarkSim> Is this the right command to install xfce?
[14:21] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: You are almost always on here ...  what part of the world do you live in... ;)
[14:21] <Erwyn> !guideline | kyle__
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: yes, the bare minimum xfce
[14:21] <te> uglyandstupid: Not sure why group admin would not exist.  Are you sure?  grep admin /etc/group
[14:21] <Coffee321> cat: Driver: No such file or directory
[14:21] <Coffee321> cat: /var/log/xorg.O.log: No such file or directory
[14:21] <Coffee321> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[14:21] <Coffee321> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:21] <Coffee321> rm: cannot remove `sysinfo.txt#..': No such file or directory
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: i work 12 hour shifts switching nights and days, so you'll see me a lot
[14:22] <Coffee321> maybe I did something wrong at that
[14:22] <DarkSim> I can't run that command
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: isn't it /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:22] <smartboyhw> Hi
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4 | DarkSim
[14:22] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: I have no issue with that since it seems you are one of the smartest people around :P
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: do you have universe repo enabled?
[14:22] <DarkSim> I don't know
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: hardly :)
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: try: apt-cache policy xfce4
[14:23] <te> uglyandstupid: I may have been scrolled up in the buffer a bit, your issue may have already been solved?
[14:23] <Coffee321> I would not know, not yet Linux based systems are so new to me.
[14:23] <theannouncer444> Hello again
[14:23] <ccz> Hey guys I'm relatively new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, how do I temporarily add a IP address to interface tap0?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: it's very case sensitive
[14:23] <DarkSim> there we go
[14:23] <DarkSim> downloading
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Did anyone test the 12.10 Alpha 3 builds using ISO QA Tracker
[14:23] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: #ubuntu+1 for Quantal
[14:24] <aether> ccz: ifconfig tap0:1 xxx.xxx.xx.x
[14:24] <zetheroo>  ActionParsnip: well there is you and there was someone else ... something like bazhang or something ... also iconia ... very clever guys
[14:24] <DarkSim> Is it bad if I install several diffrent DE's?
[14:24] <te> Coffee321: Do you know how to Cut & Paste ?
[14:24] <Coffee321> LoL it's Similar to the old Microsoft Dos systems that I learned on.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: not bad at all, you can install them all if you wish
[14:24] <te> or *"Copy & Paste"*
[14:25] <Coffee321> yes I know how to cut and paste, however Xchat is not letting me cut from it and past to terminal.
[14:25] <Coffee321> te: right
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Coffee321: use CTRL+SHIFT+C/V
[14:25] <DarkSim> Coffee321: you can't ctrl+v in terminal
[14:25] <DarkSim> Oh so that's how you do it
[14:25] <DarkSim> I always used the right click paste command lol
[14:25] <te> Coffee321: Highlight with left mouse button,  dump with middle mouse button.  (or Shift-middle-mouse-button).
[14:26] <Baylink> ubottu: Yeah, yeah, yeah, "patience".  How long does *that* take??  :-)
[14:26] <tusharthantharat> ActionParsnip : do u have any idea about customizing debian installer GUI [Background images and logos]
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> tusharthantharat: you could rebuild the package, not something I've done
[14:27] <te> Coffee321: Or as ActionParsnip suggests Ctrl-Shift-v will paste.
[14:27] <ccz> tyvm aether is there another command that would do that?
[14:27] <te> Coffee321: There is a little more to it than what you had in the previous OS's you used.
[14:27] <tusharthantharat> Yes but i dont know exactly where i need to dump those images.
[14:27] <tusharthantharat> Any channel you are aware of?
[14:28] <tusharthantharat> thanks
[14:28] <Coffee321> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1110216/
[14:28] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: there is an app for that
[14:28] <Erwyn> don't remembre exactly the name
[14:28] <Coffee321> right thanks for the walk through, I managed to copy past from xchat to terminal
[14:29] <te> Coffee321: Highlight with left-mouse-button and then shift-middle-mouse-button will dump text from here to terminal from "clipboard"
[14:29] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: but you could ask arpinux irc
[14:29] <tusharthantharat> Okay thanks Erwyn
[14:30] <Erwyn> tusharthantharat: they use it for their distribution
[14:30] <te> Coffee321: Looks to me like your system is capable of doing all it can with the hardware you have.
[14:31] <te> Ok, gotta run for now folks... ttyl ...
[14:31] <Coffee321> te: yes it is working better then it was yesterday.
[14:31] <martk100> I have a small script which runs an application which requires root privilege to run. I have a file in sudoers.d what is the exact syntax of the commands in this file to run with no password?
[14:32] <smartboyhw> BlouBlou quit because of PI?
[14:32] <Coffee321> te: erwin: again, thankyou for the help. :)
[14:33] <Erwyn> Coffee321: you're welcome
[14:33] <Coffee321> erwyn: :-) sorry about the Tyop
[14:33] <Coffee321> erwyn: you know what I mean :)
[14:34] <Erwyn> Coffee321: yes
[14:35] <biopyte> hi, i'm still looking for a comprehensive package with free sound samples, in particular the famous Westminster Tower Chimes (Big Ben) ... any idea?
[14:35] <theannouncer444> testing
[14:36] <Gnea> biopyte: search google, that is off-topic here
[14:39] <zetheroo> is there a way to get the hard drive in my laptop to spin down when not being used? ... or is that already happening?
[14:40] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: i thought you were using a ssd
[14:40] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: not yet ;)
[14:40] <biopyte> Gnea, hi Gnea, it's not OT if there was  a ubuntu package with sound samples, besides the regular gnome stuff
[14:40] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: but I have come up with a plan for that ...
[14:41] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: SSD will replace my current HDD and the current HDD will be use in an Ultrabay HDD caddy for storage purposes
[14:42] <Baylink> Does apt have its own channel?
[14:42] <genii-around> zetheroo: You might find the manpage for hdparm.conf interesting
[14:43] <smartboyhw> Don't think so
[14:43] <smartboyhw> No channel for apt
[14:43] <biopyte> biopyte, i wonder anyway, why there isnt (is there?) an ubuntu package with a whole bunch of sound samples ... would be nice
[14:43] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: sounds like a plan, t400 wasn't it?
[14:44] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: yep
[14:44] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: good choice
[14:44] <Coffee321> biopyte: like a soundboard?
[14:44] <zetheroo>  ThinkT510: well it was tough ... I am having a hard time with the way things are going with the Thinkpad under Lenovo's management ...
[14:44] <fabio> hello
[14:45] <biopyte> Coffee, sound samples ... all kind of stuff ... chimes, knocking on wood, wind ... whatever
[14:46] <Erwyn> hello fabio
[14:46] <Coffee321> biopyte : there are lots available - for Android if your familiar with it.
[14:47] <fabio> hi
[14:47] <biopyte> Coffee, really, even though it's OT could you give me a hint? i googled it but couldnt find what i want
[14:47] <biopyte> Coffee, wavs, oggs, mp3s ....
[14:47] <Coffee321> biopyte: Android (phone) is what I am, speaking of.
[14:48] <biopyte> ok,
[14:49] <biopyte> we dont need more icon themes and this sort of stuff .... better make a nice package with 5000 sound samples
[14:49] <biopyte> :-))))
[14:50] <Coffee321> biopyte: whoever might do it, should tie the program into some, podcast broadcast programs :)
[14:51] <l3d> was looking to make a slideshow from pics and would like to add video clips to it and make a dvd  out of it all. any idea what app would do that?
[14:52] <ThinkT510> l3d: openshot
[14:52] <zetheroo> genii-around: is it just a matter of enabling DMA in the config?
[14:54] <genii-around> zetheroo: I think you'd want the -S for spindown time
[14:55] <partial_upgrade> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 10.04. Running update brings up a message to do a partial upgrade, is there a way around this?
[14:55] <xangua> patie: yes, do it
[14:55] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: sounds like your last update was interupted
[14:56] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: don't worry, that won't move you to a new release
[14:56] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: The partial upgrade shows a list of everything installed to be removed, which is literally everything on the computer.
[14:57] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: what update got interrupted?
[14:58] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: No idea, I always complete any update successfully.
[14:58] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: when was the last time you did an update?
[14:58] <Richard_Cavell> Is there any limit to the number of sockets/cores Ubuntu can use?
[14:58] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: A week ago.
[14:59] <Richard_Cavell> Oh and by the way I'm talking about 10.04 desktop
[14:59] <zetheroo> genii-around: ok, but the spindown time (default being 24) is that seconds or minutes? ... I saw somewhere someone said 24 = 120 seconds ... !?
[15:01] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: is there a kernel update in the list?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> ThinkT510: What do you mean?
[15:01] <theannouncer444> ping pong
[15:02] <smartboyhw> 12.10 will be Linux 3.5 kernel
[15:02] <uzyn> I've been wondering about Ubuntu LTS repository package update policy. Can someone help me out? http://serverfault.com/questions/410977/ubuntu-lts-repository-package-update-policy
[15:02] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: have you got me mixed up with somebody?
[15:03] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I don't know, there's some gnome2 stuff and metacity, and a bunch of libs.
[15:03] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: if there isn't a kernel update in there then go for it
[15:04] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I did a partial upgrade last year, which caused the computer to stop working. So I want to avoid doing a partial upgrade, and just want to continue with normal updates. Is there a way to do that?
[15:05] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: partial upgrades are only triggered if the previous update failed, you need to go through with them
[15:05] <smartboyhw> You are asking about kernels, right?
[15:05] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: in relation to a partial upgrade
[15:06] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I don't have a spare drive for backup, if I do the upgrade and have data loss, can I restore it?
[15:06] <genii-around> zetheroo: Apparently 60 is 5 minutes, whatever that works out to
[15:06] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: not that i know of, you really ought to have a backup
[15:07] <mang0> bobweaver: Hello?
[15:07] <hanning> hey, i am trying to reinstall grob from a live cd, although i mounted my filesystem inside /home/tmp, and specify the dir using --root-directory, grub keeps on telling me it cannot find a device for /boot
[15:07] <hanning> *grub
[15:07] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: i wouldn't expect data loss, just an updating of packages
[15:07] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: Thats what worries me about partial upgrades, I lost all my uni work last year.
[15:08] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: if it goes wrong you can mount it from a livecd and recover what you need
[15:08] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: but seriously thats the backwards way of doing it, you should have backups in the first place
[15:09] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: I'll wait another week or two in that case, because I'm getting an extra hard disk.
[15:09] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: good, better safe than sorry
[15:10] <partial_upgrade> It is useful to have backups, but I was waiting for hard disk prices to go down a bit.
[15:10] <xrfang> hello I got a new buffalo nas, and found samba file transfer is very slow, I am running ubuntu 12.04, anything I can tweak?
[15:11] <ThinkT510> partial_upgrade: i don't mean to lecture you but i find that if you don't have backups you are essentially saying your data isn't worth keeping safe
[15:11] <Baylink> smartboyhw: Thanks.  Any thoughts on my apt query, up-scroll?
[15:12] <partial_upgrade> ThinkT510: Thanks, I'll get a backup disk, and do the upgrade. I was out of cash for a while, so buying a hard disk was out of the question.
[15:12] <motherbrain> Can somebody tell me how this program http://www.gnu.org/software/pexec/pexec.1.html is anything more then using ssh and & to build parrell process and parrell remote process.
[15:12] <Erwyn> partial_upgrade: for vital things, you can use stuff like dropbox or a git repository; and i'm quite sure you could drop your word on uni's servers
[15:13] <Rikim4ru> Does anyone know a way to connect a Ubuntu box to multiple vpn server simultaniously?
[15:13] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: you just have to create different tun
[15:13] <compdoc> I dont think theres a limit to the number of vpn connections you can have
[15:13] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: and each vpn use its
[15:14] <slikts> why is my cursor getting stuck when moving to a different screen!
[15:14] <Erwyn> slikts: sticky border?
[15:14] <partial_upgrade> Erwyn: I've never used cloud storage before, and the uni's backup was too old, as the projects were new. I'll give dropbox a try.
[15:14] <slikts> Erwyn: sounds like it
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: unity?
[15:15] <Erwyn> partial_upgrade: no but you could drop your stuff on unis server the time to upgrade
[15:15] <slikts> Erwyn: I just disabled it from DIsplay panel
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: and? good?
[15:15] <Rikim4ru> what do you mean different tun?
[15:15] <slikts> Erwyn: it's a good thing because I was starting to feel like murder trying to use it
[15:15] <Erwyn> slikts: :p
[15:16] <aguitel> i heard about the next year ubuntu will come back to gnome 2
[15:16] <slikts> it's a retarded feature
[15:16] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: do you know how a vpn works
[15:16] <Erwyn> ?
[15:16] <Rikim4ru> Yes, but i'm new to the linux environnement
[15:16] <Erwyn> slikts: no it for auto resize
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: when hitting border with a window
[15:17] <_ramok1> hi
[15:17] <slikts> right
[15:17] <Rikim4ru> I'm trying to connect my ubuntu box to multiple windows pptp vpn servers
[15:17] <mang0> bobweaver: I've installed your modded firmware, if you're there
[15:17] <uvictor> Hello, everyone,
[15:17] <slikts> Erwyn: I never use that feature
[15:17] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: but why?
[15:17] <_ramok1> i've got an wildcard certificate from godaddy. i get a chain file gd_company.crt and another file my_company.crt. i guess my_company.crt is my private key. how can i get my public key ?
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: i do it with keyboard :p
[15:17] <aguitel> is this true ?
[15:17] <Erwyn> slikts: ctrl meta arrow
[15:18] <Rikim4ru> Erwyn: to setup a nagios monitor node
[15:18] <slikts> Erwyn: yep, those shortcuts are nice, I know should learn to use them
[15:18] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: mhhhh
[15:18] <ThinkT510> aguitel: gnome2 is dead
[15:18] <Erwyn> in the grave
[15:18] <Rikim4ru> I want my nagios sever to be connect to all remote site.
[15:18] <aguitel> i don t think this
[15:19] <Rikim4ru> Most of them dont have a router that will let me do site-to-site vpn
[15:19] <Erwyn> Rikim4ru: i can't help you, i'm not vpn guru, always struggling with them
[15:19] <Rikim4ru> Erwyn, ok thanks :)
[15:19] <aguitel> ThinkT510, what about mate or cinnamon
[15:19] <LoboX> hi all
[15:20] <ThinkT510> aguitel: i don't know whether ubuntu will eventually support them, but for now they are unsupported
[15:20] <aguitel> ThinkT510, ok
[15:21] <LoboX> onething how can i unistall the last nvida drivers that i updated?
[15:21] <LoboX> from the terminal cause for some reason when i updated, and i log on into the desktop all the menus are gone
[15:23] <uvictor> Nice though it is late for me to sleep
[15:23] <LoboX> weird the global menu is gone, even if i entner a terminal theres no menu
[15:24] <Erwyn> LoboX: unity --replace
[15:24] <DarkSim> Xfce is ok
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> LoboX  logout and in, see if that helps
[15:24] <DarkSim> it's not super nice, but it's ok
[15:24] <DarkSim> Anyone ever installed a wallpaper clock?
[15:24] <LoboX> MonkeyDust did that same issue, and it happen after the driver update from nvida
[15:25] <LoboX> Erwyn ill try that
[15:25] <Erwyn> LoboX: unity --replace in your terminal
[15:25] <LoboX> checking
[15:25] <Erwyn> ok
[15:25] <sony__> DarkSim, using conky?
[15:25] <hanning> is anyone able to lend me a hand at Step 10? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[15:26] <hanning> i am getting "cannot find a device for /boot"
[15:26] <darksifer> hi everyone. my friend has a samsung laptop rc530 and told me to install ubuntu on it which i quickly accepted. my issue is that the laptop does not detect my 2 pendrives on the bios menu. furthermore the boot menu is very tricky. timing is very important. can someone help me here. thanks in advance
[15:26] <DarkSim> sony__: I tried something called screenlets but I can't get it to work
[15:26] <Erwyn> darksifer: did you try pressing escape at startup?
[15:26] <DarkSim> I think I might have to uninstall screenlets
[15:27] <sony__> Maybe it's better to use conky?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  screenlets are nice for screenshots
[15:28] <sony__> You can configure it for yourself as you like
[15:28] <Erwyn> darksifer: ?
[15:28] <darksifer> Erwyn: ya. i pressed ESC button which is very tricky but , i got the menu. but i got only 2 options there(DVD and the hard disk). Even the boot order in the bios does not detect my 2 pendrives.
[15:29] <LoboX> Erwyn onething for some weird reason im unable to type anything on the terminal im able to do alt + ctrl + t to open the temrinal but cant type nothing in it weird, so i boot from the cd again and everything is working how can i switch from the cd to the HD to use that command
[15:31] <Erwyn> darksifer: you probably have to enable something in the bios
[15:31] <RobOakes> Morning everyone. Would there be someone who could answer some questions about how the mdate property of folders?
[15:31] <Erwyn> darksifer: then plug your key, start pc and press esc
[15:31] <darksifer> Erwyn, nevermind. i had to shutdown the computer completely then switch on the computer again. then it worked.
[15:31] <RobOakes> What I need to know is if a folder mdate is a reliable indicator of changes in the folder contents, or just to the folder properties.
[15:32] <Erwyn> darksifer: you're welcome
[15:32] <emanup> ciao
[15:32] <islandmonkey> !it | emaunp
[15:32] <RobOakes> I'm writing a sync client and need a way to detect changes to a directory.
[15:32] <Erwyn> LoboX: boot on HD, login, when logged do ctrl alt f1
[15:33] <Erwyn> LoboX: then log into the console, and unity --replace
[15:33] <LoboX> aight
[15:33] <LoboX> let me chekc
[15:33] <MarcMueller> Hey my network is broken how can I fix it?
[15:33] <MarcMueller> server btw
[15:34] <SiPa_> hi
[15:34] <SiPa_> im pretty new to linux based systems and have some questions regarding the installation of this: http://www.par4all.org/repository/
[15:34] <SiPa_> can some1 help me?
[15:35] <Erwyn> !ask | SiPa_
[15:35] <islandmonkey> SiPa: Go to Ubuntu Software Centre
[15:36] <bigsky> what is the difference between ubuntu-10.04.4-alternate-amd64.iso  and  ubuntu-10.04.4-server-amd64.iso       ?
[15:36] <SiPa_> the last step confuses me (http://www.par4all.org/repository/) how do i use bash or dash? if i use the terminal it just displays an error
[15:36] <Erwyn> SiPa_: pastebin error please
[15:37] <MarcMueller> Hello I have a network problem I can't ping google.com but I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:37] <MarcMueller> something wrong with nameserver or so
[15:37] <islandmonkey> SiPa_: Then go to Edit > Software Sources, Other Software tab and click on add.
[15:37] <ry> bigsky, the alternate allows you to setup LVM during the install, i believe it defaults to LVM
[15:37] <islandmonkey> that first piece of code on the article.
[15:37] <ry> i'm sure there are other differences, but that is the one of primary concern to me in the past
[15:38] <islandmonkey> The deb http://download.par4all.org/apt/ubuntu releases main part
[15:38] <Pici> islandmonkey: he said that he already installed it
[15:39] <SiPa_> Erwyn: bash: fg: %: no such job
[15:39] <DarkSim> I think if I could make the top window bar a bit fatter it would be alright
[15:39] <DarkSim> right now the top window bar is a bit small
[15:39] <Easykiln> hi i am running ubuntu 12.04 desktop and i've encountered some weird glitches lately. whenever i start my computer i am faced with an error: "system problem detected". where i try to get details it loads forever but shows usr/bin/xorg. Whenever I leave my computer on standby for very long, when i go back to it, it wipes out whatever i had been doing as if i hadrestarted. i tried uninstalling and reinstalling xorg, but all it did was wipe out my firefox set
[15:39] <Easykiln> tings that i can tell. any idea what is wrong?
[15:39] <Pici> SiPa_: don't include the % on the front of the line.
[15:39] <ubuntu> Witam
[15:40] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: The first problem is nothing to worry about - the second one - not sure
[15:40] <SiPa_> hmk Pici, i typed it w/o the %...now it does...nothing? idk; how do i start par4all? how do i notice the source /usr/... worked?
[15:40] <Pici> SiPa_: doing 'nothing' is correct.
[15:40] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: And you shouldn't be touching X as well
[15:40] <Easykiln> i assumed they were the same problem
[15:41] <Pici> SiPa_: read the documentation on how to use it
[15:41] <Siegel-> i recently upgraded my internet connection from 5mb to 15 mb. it seems to be even slower at times. sometimes its fast, but more often than not its slow. how can i check my internet speed on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:41] <SiPa_> hm the installation is completed w/ that step and i can close the terminal? (although it says there is still a process running?)
[15:41] <Pici> SiPa_: yes
[15:41] <Easykiln> the second thing is at least very annoying
[15:42] <bigsky> ry: is LVM useful?
[15:42] <SiPa_> thx, have a heart, Pici  --> ♥♥♥♥♥
[15:42] <islandmonkey> Easykiln: Apport is annoyingly sensitive with system errors. I quote from an Ubuntu dev (Bilal Aktar): "System processes die all the time, but usually revive themselves".
[15:42] <jackcholt> I recently "installed" mikogo onto 12.04 by extracting it from a tar.gz and I'm wondering how to add it to the application lens so I can start it with Unity.  Any ideas?
[15:42] <islandmonkey> And the ignore option doesn't work
[15:42] <Siegel-> anyone know how to check your internet speed on ubuntu? i mean, speed for streaming videos,. its extremely slow and they said that im supposedly paying for an inside network only for thei rusers or whatever
[15:43] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Was there a .desktop file in the tar.gz?
[15:43] <TexNixk> Siegel : http://www.speedtest.net/
[15:43] <Easykiln> huh. ok. still, it would able to be able to leave my computer for ten minutes an have everything working when i get back
[15:43] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: let me take a look
[15:44] <emanup> ciao
[15:44] <Easykiln> it would be nice*
[15:44] <emanup> !list
[15:44] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: there is no .desktop file in the mikogo files
[15:44] <Siegel-> TexNixk: thanks its extremely slow, below 5mb, is it possible that ubuntu is causing this? because im paying for 15
[15:45] <TexNixk> Siegel : welcome
[15:45] <Siegel-> does anyone know of ubuntu causing wireless to be slow?
[15:46] <Erwyn> LoboX: so?
[15:46] <Erwyn> Siegel-: did you try win a windows too?
[15:47] <Siegel-> Erwyn i dont have wondows
[15:47] <Erwyn> so maybe it's not ubuntu
[15:47] <Siegel-> windows*
[15:47] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Then you will have to create one. See http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/122427-how-create-desktop-file.html
[15:47] <trasp> First of all, I've made a VPN-config through gnome, but it won't autoconnect even though I've set that option, how may I solve this problem? Also, can I block all (other) access to internet when connected with the VPN?
[15:47] <Siegel-> Erwyn: thats my question,
[15:48] <TexNixk> Siegel : i'm using a 15Mb WiMax connection ... my speed varies from about 8Mb to about 18Mb
[15:48] <islandmonkey> Once you are done, place it in ~/local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications.
[15:48] <Erwyn> Siegel-: it is possible if your wireless card isn't well supported, that's why, try with windows or mac os if possible
[15:48] <Siegel-> TexNixk: well i upgraded from 5 to 15, no way should it be 5.46 which is the final result i got through that website. im calling my provider
[15:48] <jakk> if anyone would like to help with the GNAA sponsored ubuntu based linux distro, please join #linux_for_niggers
[15:48] <Siegel-> Erwyn: its bcm 4318, it seems well supported by the b43 packages
[15:49] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: thanks.  That was my immediate guess after your answer.  I immediately started duckduckgoing (is that a verb like google is?)
[15:49] <islandmonkey> Then Unity and other DE's can detect it.
[15:49] <trasp> when not connected to the VPN, i meant of course. So that I don't manage to connect to anything and hold that connection before I'm connected with the VPN
[15:49] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Of course it is ;) - DuckDuckGo FTW!
[15:49] <pb> nice ban.
[15:51] <Erwyn> Siegel-: so maybe not ubuntu's fault
[15:51] <LoboX> Erwyn man for some reason is sooooo slooooow, i did ctrl + alt + f1 and the terminal is not even coming up >:P
[15:52] <LoboX> i will just format again and dont install that last nvidia driver
[15:52] <Siegel-> Erwyn: im calling my provider. maybe they never changed it for me, so im waiting for them to pickup
[15:52] <LoboX> thanks for the help Erwyn >:)
[15:52] <Erwyn> LoboX: you're welcome. Amike
[15:53] <jackcholt> Once I have a .desktop file for mikogo do I put it in /usr/share/applications? Or where does it go?
[15:53] <jvillejoe> I am running xubuntu 12 and flash video on youtube is choppy and laggy and the sound skips is there a fix for this?
[15:54] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: sudo dpkg -l | grep gnash
[15:55] <islandmonkey> jackcholt: Yes. Or .local/share/applications in your /home folder (You'll need to enable the showing of hidden files to do that).
[15:55] <jackcholt> yea. thanks islandmonkey
[15:56] <islandmonkey> Your welcome
[15:57] <fabio> here can i speak about transmission?
[15:57] <fabio> i 've problem with it
[15:57] <Erwyn> fabio: why not?
[15:57] <islandmonkey> !ask | fabio
[15:58] <jvillejoe> erwyn I entered that into the terminal and it had me enter my password then I hit enter and it didnt do anything
[15:59] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: okay
[15:59] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:59] <sledges> hello
[15:59] <wN> hi
[16:01] <sledges> In a VirtualBox, I was upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 and tried to take a screenshot of "Keep or revert sudoers file" dialog window. It did not work, and after a while whole screen gone stuck and then black after resizing VM window. Still can SSH into it though.. is my dist upgrade borked?
[16:02] <enriq> hi. On ubuntu 10.04 my init.d scripts are not starting (e.g. apache2, tomcat6). They do run OK with service apache2 start, but not on boot. The symlinks are correctly set on the rcx.d dirs, and rc.conf exists in upstart /etc/init dir... what else can be happening!
[16:02] <jvillejoe> erwyn this is what it did after I entered that into terminal. "Reading package lists... Done
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Building dependency tree
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Reading state information... Done
[16:02] <jvillejoe> Note, selecting 'flashplugin-installer' instead of 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[16:02] <jvillejoe> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[16:02] <jvillejoe> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[16:02] <FloodBot1> jvillejoe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:03] <genii-around> enriq: Are there scripts in upstart directory of /etc/init for them instead?
[16:03] <Erwyn> jvillejoe: already installed, sorry don't have any idea
[16:04] <jvillejoe> ok thank erwyn
[16:04] <sledges> hope you can answer my problem above. will check back from home
[16:05] <fabio> i m download a torrent with transmission but it's slow
[16:05] <fabio> why?
[16:05] <fabio> i am downloading
[16:06] <bindi> fabio: because your interent is slow and/or the torrent doesnt have fast uploaders. not at all related to ubuntu
[16:06] <Erwyn> fabio: this is not transmission's fault
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> fabiano: low number of seeds
[16:09] <NewWorld> fabio:  Maybe you're not connectable  (i.e. didn't forward a port for bittorrent)
[16:09] <bindi> NewWorld: he's downloading, not uploading
[16:09] <enriq> genii-around, nope, no upstart scripts, only sys v... but they should be running, don't they?
[16:10] <ry> bigsky, yes it's very useful
[16:10] <NewWorld> bindi:  You connect to more peers if you're connectable. So DLing should be faster
[16:10] <jackcholt> islandmonkey: thanks again.  adding a mikogo.desktop to /usr/share/applications worked great after adding some symbolic links to the mikogo executables in the bin dir on my home folder
[16:11] <genii-around> enriq: Yes, by way of the etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf  ..are these init.d scripts "factory" or ones you made manually or perhaps with update-rc.d ?
[16:12] <kroaken> Hey what ati driver should i installl against my HD 4670 ati?!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> !ati | kroaken
[16:12] <kroaken> once i had the table but i lost it some time ago
[16:12] <HellsBells_> HellsBells
[16:13] <genii-around> enriq: If you made them manually, check they are +x
[16:14] <enriq> genii-around, they look factory, as per comparision with another 10.04 which works ok, and in both cases +x is NOT set for rc-sysinit.conf
[16:16] <genii-around> enriq: The /etc/init.d/<tomcat-or-other-sysv-script>   is what to check , not the rc-sysinit.conf
[16:17] <enriq> genii-around, yes, sorry, they are factory and have +x and owner root:root
[16:17] <kroaken> Does anyone got the table ?!@
[16:19] <enriq> genii-around, and in /etc/rc2.d I have the shortcuts
[16:19] <enriq> genii-around, ... generated by update-rc
[16:21] <osse> I'm trying to find the version number of a package on the command line. I tried 'apt-cache showpkg foo' but it lists nearly no information. It works on other packages, though. The package in question is xkeyboard-config
[16:21] <ossito> hola
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> osse  try apt-cache policy
[16:22] <suprrgshs> hi
[16:22] <ossito> Q tal estais
[16:22] <ossito> ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
[16:22] <suprrgshs> i've a problem with transmission
[16:22] <WhyBotWhy_> Hey guys, really stupid question here, but why does xorg have 4 different log files in my /var/log? are different functions logged to different files?
[16:23] <suprrgshs> anyone can help me?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  i use it, let me try to help you
[16:23] <suprrgshs> ok i'm download a torrent but it is slow, why?
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <ossito> hola
[16:23] <FloodBot1> ossito: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  depends on how many 'sources' there are
[16:24] <suprrgshs> can i write the torrent?
[16:24] <suprrgshs> the are many sources
[16:24] <ossito> kiero ser admin aqui
[16:24] <ossito> se puede
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:24] <suprrgshs> there are
[16:24] <osse> MonkeyDust, it says 'xkeyboard-config: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table:'  Weird. ISn't it a package in the normal sense? A fix was recentely fixed, supposedly in this package
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> suprrgshs  may also depend on the speed of the other pc
[16:25] <suprrgshs> can i post the link?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> rather not
[16:25] <suprrgshs> so you control it
[16:26] <enriq> suprrgshs, most probably it's not an ubuntu related question
[16:26] <WhyBotWhy_> anyone?
[16:26] <suprrgshs> i think that my trans is bad configured
[16:26] <enriq> WhyBotWhy_, logs end with numbers?
[16:26] <Pici> WhyBotWhy_: after a log file gets filled up, it starts a new one.
[16:27] <genii-around> enriq: Is there anything in /var/log/boot.log ?
[16:27] <makezan> hello gurus I have a question, i'm using vino server, to remote into my machine, the problem however is once i'm connected, the image being displayed is like a mirror of my current desktop
[16:27] <amliby> If I'm rolling my own .deb that requires a postgres db to be setup for the software to run, is the proper way to create this db with a postinst script?
[16:29] <suprrgshs> monkey can i post in pv the link?
[16:29] <suprrgshs> so you control it
[16:29] <genii-around> enriq: ( or logs with the names of the failed daemons in /var/log/upstart )
[16:29] <enriq> genii-around, in boot.log only a fsck result
[16:30] <suprrgshs> moneky are you in?
[16:31] <bluewave22> hello ... can someone help me determine why I keep getting this "SYSTEM PROGRAM PROBLEM DETECTED" error message at login (12.04LTS): http://imgur.com/aWrGl
[16:31] <islandmonkey> suprrgshs: There are 2 people that start with monkey, me, and MonkeyDust.
[16:31] <suprrgshs> is there  anybody here?
[16:31] <enriq> genii-around, in /var/log/apache2 there are the usual apache logs with usual contents (i.e. after started with service apache2 start)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> bluewave22: hit report problem to report the issues to the devs
[16:32] <islandmonkey> suprrgshs: There are 1670 people here
[16:32] <islandmonkey> !bug | bluewave22
[16:33] <genii-around> enriq: Anything informative in the apache2 log?
[16:33] <islandmonkey> But nevermind, in 75% of cases no one will reply back to you
[16:34] <bluewave22> okay just we just have a bug... any place I could look or search to let me know what service or program could be the culprit
[16:34] <islandmonkey> bluewave22: Apport is annoyingly sensitive with system errors. I quote from an Ubuntu dev (Bilal Aktar): "System processes die all the time, but usually revive themselves".
[16:34] <islandmonkey> So just ignore it
[16:35] <bluewave22> okay thanks for the feedback guys/gals
[16:36] <enriq> genii-around, normal logs in both access.log and error.log up to the shutdown (in error log it logs about SIGTERM) all this in .1 files, and then the new log starting with the manual service start
[16:36] <enriq> genii-around, the services are not even attempted to start I think
[16:38] <Chamunks> Anyone here point me in the direction to know how to configure gnome3's Screen Recording stuff?  The Ctrl+alt+Shift+R or whatever it is?
[16:38] <genii-around> enriq: Very odd.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Chamunks  try kazam
[16:40] <enriq> genii-around, any other log you can think of?
[16:40] <Chamunks> MonkeyDust, I've been playing with gtkrecordmydesktop but I find that the gnome3 one records really well on the fly but is unconfigurable.
[16:41] <enriq> genii-around, in any case many thanks for your help
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/help-test-new-screen-recording-app-eidete  also another option
[16:42] <Chamunks> !info kazam | Chamunks
[16:43] <genii-around> enriq: Offhand not anything I can think of to check. Did they work previously ? If so, what was the last thing you did before they stopped, etc ( upgrade, network tinkering, hardware replacement, etc )
[16:44] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, doesnt look like it handles the audio all in one go.  From the quick video on that site.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: i'd read the review instead :)
[16:44] <Chamunks> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll do that :)
[16:45] <Chamunks> Oh wow I like the keypress stuff thats neat!
[16:46] <Chamunks> !info eidete | Chamunks
[16:46] <enriq> genii-around, this is a somewhat "inherited" server so... I don't know really, I'm not supposed to check this stuff but I'm the one affected first when the services don't start :) I checked that all looks normal, even compared files by the byte with my local machine (exactly the same 10.04) and all looks normal... really annoying...
[16:46] <Chamunks> phoey
[16:46] <mang0> bobweaver: Hello?
[16:46] <bobweaver> hello mang0
[16:46] <enriq> genii-around, where are startup failures logged... maybe something is failing before the scripts or somehitng
[16:47] <emanuelep> ciao
[16:47] <emanuelep> !list
[16:47] <mang0> bobweaver: I didn't get the job :P, but the boss was quite rude, so I don't really mind.
[16:47] <mang0> bobweaver: Installed your bobsdriver, btw
[16:47] <bobweaver> and ?
[16:48] <mang0> bobweaver: Only just done it, hehe. I'm kinda here and there, but I need to re-boot I guess
[16:48] <bobweaver> mang0,  cool
[16:48] <genii-around> enriq: Might want to check daemon.log if you have it
[16:50] <bobweaver> mang0,  I am also in and out if you post and I dont see it ping me as I am working on Ubuntu TV ATM :)
[16:50] <enriq> ok I will, thanks genii-around. I will eat something, that might help. cheers
[16:51] <mang0> bobweaver: When you say ping, do you mean actually ping as in "/ping bobweaver" or as in high lighting you as I am doing in this message?
[16:51] <bobweaver> as in that last message
[16:56] <mang0_> bobweaver: No luck :/ I just did apt-get update and then checked if your thing was installed (it was) and then rebooted. dmesg says [   75.372118] b43legacy-phy0 ERROR: MAC suspend failed and the normal timeout thing...
[16:57] <Guest55127> is it ok to install 10.12 for my hd 4670 ?!? oO
[16:58] <islandmonkey> Guest55127: Of course it is :)
[16:59] <bobweaver> mang0_,  uninstall and purge th e repo if you like. And Like I was talking about the last time that we talked if this did not work lets just try the b43 all by its lonesome :)     so      sudo apt-get remove bobsdriver firmware-b43legacy && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[16:59] <keirlav87> my audio isn't working on ubuntu (latest version) on a dual boot pc, do i need an additional driver or anything?
[16:59] <ynipo> -))
[16:59] <bobweaver> make sure you uninstall bobsdriver thou 1st :) or it will not know what to do
[16:59] <bobweaver> sorry mang0_  &^^
[17:00] <mang0_> bobweaver: Sure :)
[17:00] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: which cards? which (audio) modules are loaded? does dmesg print anything regarding audio?
[17:00] <Chamunks> Would it be possible to get a general difficulty rating system across the board for ubuntu?  I think that it would be an awesome thing to have  a system that users could rate all things in the ubuntu community if they like on the difficulty of use.
[17:00] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: *card
[17:02] <islandmonkey> keirlav87: Run lspci | grep -i audio
[17:02] <keirlav87> Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[17:03] <keirlav87> I think the problem may be that it's trying to use the front audio jack, which doesn't work, is it possible to specify the rear audio jack instead?
[17:03] <MasterOfDisaster> keirlav87: did you unmute the channels?
[17:03] <ynipo> open the software and see for your self , but it might be tricky :P
[17:03] <keirlav87> yeah i've unmuted everything I can find to unmute :P
[17:04] <MasterOfDisaster> would have been too easy
[17:04] <islandmonkey> keirlav87: Make sure you are using the correct card. I have two audio cards - one NVIDIA (which doesn't work) and the Intel one, which works.
[17:04] <aguitel> i downloaded some movie Re-encoded with [SPLVideo Codec] ,how to see this movie in ubuntu ?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: tried gnome-mplayer ?
[17:04] <MasterOfDisaster> aguitel: vlc, mplayer
[17:05] <keirlav87> how can i do that please?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:05] <Jonii> Is it just me or has Ubuntu 12.04 been getting more and more bugs as it has aged?
[17:05] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, MasterOfDisaster no way with vlc or gnome-player
[17:05] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, i did
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: depends on the apps you use really
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: and w32codecs (or w64codecs) from medibuntu repo?
[17:06] <ThinkT510> Jonii: been solid for me
[17:06] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, i did too
[17:06] <emanueleleop> ciao
[17:06] <islandmonkey> Jonii: It's you. I have a few annoying bugs, but some people may have none, some people may have more.
[17:06] <emanueleleop> !list
[17:06] <emanueleleop> !list
[17:06] <Jonii> When I first installed it, it felt refreshingly stable. Now, alt+ctrl+shift+arrow moving windows doesn't work no more, clickpad ceases to work after few days of use, forcing relogin, X has started crashing, windows have been disappearing, icons not loading on launcher...
[17:07] <MasterOfDisaster> aguitel: no idea then
[17:07] <Jonii> I didn't have such problems for the first few weeks after installing
[17:08] <ThinkT510> Jonii: installed much since?
[17:08] <venkatmangudi> must be compiz acting up, Jonii
[17:08] <Jonii> ThinkT510: maybe 2 months
[17:08] <ThinkT510> Jonii: so its been 2 months since you installed anything?
[17:09] <Jonii> ThinkT510: oh, misunderstood
[17:09] <Jonii> I haven't installed that many programs really. Gnome Do, Emacs, org-mode, spotify, netbeans, chromium
[17:10] <Jonii> That's about it
[17:10] <okay> Hi, I was wondering if the ubuntu desktop cd has gparted on it
[17:10] <ThinkT510> Jonii: gnome do? is that in the repos?
[17:10] <venkatmangudi> what's your display card? have you been updating the system?
[17:10] <ThinkT510> okay: indeed it does
[17:10] <islandmonkey> !info | gnome-do
[17:10] <Jonii> ThinkT510: I think it was
[17:10] <okay> thanks
[17:10] <islandmonkey> !package | gnome-do
[17:11] <ThinkT510> !find gnome-do
[17:11] <ThinkT510> !info gnome-do
[17:11] <islandmonkey> Oh thanks
[17:11] <ThinkT510> Jonii: you using unity?
[17:11] <Jonii> ThinkT510: yeah
[17:11] <hasbreeneehall> I think unity is awsome
[17:12] <ThinkT510> Jonii: i'm not sure gnome-do is meant to work with unity
[17:12] <ynipo> 1bbbbbbeeeeeeeeeee freeeeeeeee
[17:12] <ynipo> got tyhe mail :P
[17:12] <ynipo> ttks all
[17:12] <Jonii> ThinkT510: seems to work just fine
[17:13] <hasbreeneehall> just as i thort
[17:13] <Jonii> I was told that it is better than Unity lenses + HUD
[17:13] <mang0_> bobweaver: Arite, I'm back at kb again, so I can sort this out. I've run that command, now I guess it's another reboot, right
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Jonii: if you fancy testing you could remove it and see what performance is like for a while without it
[17:13] <islandmonkey> HUD FTW
[17:14] <Jonii> ThinkT510: I just recently installed it, I haven't had any new problems after installing it, just the same old
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Jonii: i always thought gnome-do was only for gnome-shell
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Jonii: oh
[17:15] <ThinkT510> Jonii: installed any ppas?
[17:15] <Jonii> ppa?
[17:15] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Jonii
[17:15] <Jonii> I don't remember really :|
[17:15] <bobweaver> mang0_, yea Also make sure that you take out b43legacy out of /etc/modules
[17:15] <Jonii> Spotify is PPA
[17:15] <mang0_> bobweaver: Ah k
[17:15] <bobweaver> mang0_, so it dont load on boot
[17:15] <ThinkT510> Jonii: you can't remember what you've installed?
[17:15] <mang0_> bobweaver: Yeah
[17:15] <Jonii> But I don't remember if there are more PPA things I have attempted
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Jonii: You can find all the PPA's you installed in Software SO
[17:16] <wago> any help on how to change icons that are shown on the alt-tab interface? for example, the android emulator icon right now is pretty low res
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Sources
[17:16] <Jonii> software SO?
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Software Sources
[17:16] <islandmonkey> Sorry accidentally pressed enter
[17:16] <audrianore> Hahaha
[17:16] <bobweaver> mang0_,  this is what I am working on at the moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgQpS8F6_o&feature=plcp    so like I said if I do not anwser right away :)
[17:17] <islandmonkey> audrianore: I don't find how that is funny
[17:17] <islandmonkey> ?
[17:17] <noodles_> hello, i want to setup ubuntu on a sd-card and have grub on the sd-card, i.e. i do not want the system hd (win7) to be touched at all. does the installer provide this scenario?
[17:17] <audrianore> islandmonkey: Oops, sorry.
[17:18] <islandmonkey> audrianore: Don't be sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. :)
[17:18] <Jonii> noodles_: yes
[17:18] <sample64> ciao
[17:18] <sample64> !lista
[17:18] <Jonii> I think, at least. I know I managed to install it on USB stick
[17:19] <audrianore> noodles_: Yes you can.
[17:19] <genii-around> noodles_: If the installer sees the card as a hard drive then you're off to the races ( if it has enough room on it )
[17:20] <Seryth> bobweaver: Bah, now it's not loading the drivers at all! Same ssb problem again I think
[17:20] <Seryth> bobweaver: Oh, I'm mang0 btw
[17:20] <mang0_> Sorry :P
[17:20] <noodles_> card is plain /dev/sdx, but i wonder if i have to hide the hd, or if the installer offers to put grub on the sdcar
[17:20] <jhutchins_wk> !list
[17:20] <MNIchie> Has anyone else had any problems with flash in Chrome since the newest update, running 12.04?
[17:20] <hwkiller-netbook> I haven't
[17:20] <bobweaver> mang0_,  add b43 to /etc/modules
[17:21] <mang0_> bobweaver: Already on it ;)
[17:21] <audrianore> MNIchie: What kind of problem?
[17:21] <bobweaver> at the bottom ....   Sweet mang0_
[17:21] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: What sort?
[17:21] <MNIchie> audrianore, all flash videos are at double speed and fullscreen doesn't work
[17:21] <mang0_> bobweaver: I was waaaaaay ahead of you on that, and to make me even more cool, I used nano instead of gedit ;)
[17:22] <MNIchie> Just started happening after I updated
[17:22] <housam> hello ubuntu room ppl
[17:22] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, MasterOfDisaster  if i use video converter?
[17:22] <bobweaver> mang0_, http://xkcd.com/378/
[17:22] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: I get the double speed thing
[17:22] <bobweaver> :)
[17:22] <audrianore> MNIchie, what did you update? Chrome, or the Flash?
[17:23] <infernox> flash seems to work well.
[17:23] <JPeterson> what's the best way to do the equivalent of "swapoff -a" permanent?
[17:23] <islandmonkey> MNIchie: But only when using th GPU heavily.
[17:23] <islandmonkey> the*
[17:23] <Seveas> JPeterson, remove the swap line from /etc/fstab
[17:23] <JPeterson> Seveas: thx
[17:23] <MNIchie> Chrome(which has its own flash)  Flash still works fine in Firefox
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: comment it out instead
[17:23] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, that's nowhere near as permanent :-)
[17:23] <mang0_> bobweaver: Hehe, gotta love xkcd! Rebooting again.
[17:24] <audrianore> MNIchie, I see. Was it the stable or unstable update?
[17:24] <MNIchie> auronandace, it was the stable update pulled from the repos
[17:25] <islandmonkey> Same here
[17:25] <auronandace> MNIchie: tab complete failure?
[17:25] <islandmonkey> But I've had it all the time using 12.04
[17:25] <MNIchie> auronandace, yeah, my bad
[17:26] <jellyg00se> Hello!, somehow I think I messed up my pulseaudio when trying to make my skype microphone detect. Anyway not 100% what I did but I installed ALSA which is working fine but I've got no media keys fn+volume etc.. and there's no indicator being displayed, I tried reinstalling pulseaudio but this hasn't fixed it along with installing apt-get indicator-sound
[17:26] <housam> can any one help me and tell me how can i make fix my flash player at ubuntu 12.04 in firefox for arabic lang
[17:26] <jellyg00se> any help would be appreciated :)
[17:26] <jellyg00se> version 12.04 fwi
[17:26] <infernox> I have an eeepc 1005 and when i type the cursor sometimes ends up clicking and sometimes pasting, running lubuntu 12.04
[17:26] <jellyg00se> fyi*
[17:26] <MNIchie> audrianore, Version 20.0.1132.57