[15:01] <alkisg> Hi, I want to test netbooting without an initramfs on amd64. I managed to do it on Raspbian.
[15:01] <alkisg> Question: is there any network driver that is embedded in the default ubuntu kernel? E.g. virtio or intel or something that I could use with vbox or qemu?
[15:11] <alkisg> Found /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.builtin; missing nfs; can't continue :)


[03:08] <Menzador> If you saw me unset -t in #u-o it was an error by my client (ChanServ fixed it)
[19:13] <tatertotz>  i understand how expensive "time" is and how long it would take to "ctrl+f" a IRC chat room, so if it's routine to operate on hearsay and conjecture for $/resources sake that is acceptable. With that having been said what are your "accusations" and how long is your ban?
[19:15] <dax> Hi tatertotz. I'm not sure what "hearsay and conjecture" refers to, can you elaborate?
[19:15] <dax> Also, bans in #ubuntu are not timed, they're removed when we have confidence that the behavior that led to the ban will not reoccur.
[19:25] <tatertotz> dax: yes
[19:25] <tatertotz> dax: hypothetically speaking
[19:26] <tatertotz> dax: if i were to say all (theoretical number) 34098 #ubuntu users called me racial slurs, spat in my face, and made death threats to my life
[19:27] <tatertotz> dax: do you and your friends get busy sending 34098 private messages out
[19:27] <tatertotz> dax: do you and your friends get busy sending 34098 private messages out?
[19:27] <hggdh> tatertotz: I am sorry, but I do not quite follow you
[19:29] <dax> tatertotz: If the entire #ubuntu channel started calling you racial slurs (presumably in #ubuntu), I expect #ubuntu would be heavily moderated until we figured out what on earth was going on.
[19:30] <tatertotz> dax: I understand, thank you
[19:31] <dax> tatertotz: That said, I prefer to stay grounded in reality, so if you could elaborate on what "hearsay and conjecture" has to do with your present situation rather than spinning up a hypothetical, I would appreciate it.
[19:32] <tatertotz> dax: i asked what your "accusations" were
[19:32] <tatertotz> dax: present them
[19:33] <tatertotz> dax: in complete sentences if possible
[19:33] <tatertotz> dax: but if not ..that's cool too
[19:33] <dax> tatertotz: I'd prefer to get an understanding of what your current impressions are regarding your behavior in #ubuntu and our reaction to it. Therefore, as I've already asked, please elaborate on what you mean by "hearsay and conjecture".
[19:34] <tatertotz> dax:  Information heard by one person about another. Hearsay is generally inadmissible as evidence in a court of law because it is based on the reports of others rather than on the personal knowledge of a witness.
[19:35] <dax> tatertotz: Yes, I am aware of what the words mean. I, obviously, am asking for an elaboration of what they have to do with your present situation, as already said.
[19:35] <tatertotz> dax: I'm here....from "accusations"
[19:36] <tatertotz> dax: i'm here
[19:36] <tatertotz> dax: at your request
[19:36] <tatertotz> dax: you asked that I join here...i did
[19:36] <dax> To be clear, I asked you to join here "when you decide to address the repeated concerns #ubuntu ops have expressed about your behavior".
[19:37] <dax> So, presumably, you want to do that. As said, I would like to start that by getting an understanding of your behavior in #ubuntu and what your impression is of our reaction to it. Therefore, as said, please elaborate on your opening comment about "hearsay and conjecture" and how it relates to your current #ubuntu status.
[19:37] <tatertotz> dax: i understand, well as happens in many marriages....we have reached an impasse
[19:37] <tatertotz> dax: (attempt at humor)
[19:38] <tatertotz> dax: I understand, you have a good afternoon sir
[19:38] <dax> That's about what I expected.
[19:38] <dax> @mark #ubuntu-ops tatertotz


[03:18] <sandra_> G'evening my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-)
[03:18] <sandra_> I hope everyone is doing well tonight
[03:20] <sandra_> I'm  new to Linux and Xubuntu and I would like to know if there is a way to incorporate the sound applet found in Ubuntu Oneiric into Xubuntu ?
[03:22] <sandra_> The reason I would like to do this is because I feel Ubuntu Oneiric speaker icon sound applet has a better fit and feel then the current sound speaker icon option found in Xubuntu currently
[03:23] <sandra_> mostly because Xubuntu does not do well my USB headsets.
[03:25] <sandra_> What I'm doing currently is using pulseaudio volume control when using my USB headset.
[03:25] <sandra_> Any help w/my request would be greatly appreciated :-)
[03:48] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: What do you  mean by sound applet? The indicator applet used by ubuntu (or maybe a modified version) is included by default in Xubuntu.
[03:48] <chanelle> all of my window borders are missing! what do i do?
[03:48] <Shirakawasuna> chanelle: xfwm4 --replace &
[03:49] <chanelle> woah thank you @
[03:49] <chanelle> that was quick
[03:50] <chanelle> cheers
[03:50] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: sorry, I think I misunderstood your question. If you want the oneiric icon, my recommendation is to wait a week for oneiric to come out :). Alternatively you can install the oneiric package for the sound indicator applet, but I'm new to ubuntu myself and don't know which one it is.
[03:50] <Shirakawasuna> chanelle: np!
[03:50] <chanelle> :)
[04:09] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna: I'm so sorry I am now reading your responce
[04:09] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: lol, don't worry about it
[04:10] <Shirakawasuna> IRC is all about 30 minute pauses between responses
[04:10] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna,  I'm new to linux and Ubuntu and it's variants too lol
[04:11] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, But under Ubuntu Oneiric it's sound icon which gives one access to one's music player and sound settings seems to me a bit more intuitive and easy to use for a novice such as myself.
[04:12] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: this is what mine looks like: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TbqXu8oL_FI/AAAAAAAAENI/47xG3YPsLHA/xubuntu_11.04_musicmenu.png
[04:12] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, And what I was hoping to do was to hopefully incorporate the sound applet from ubuntu oneiric into Xubuntu so it's not such a challenge to use one's USB headset.
[04:13] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: if you want something like in that screenshot, it's the default for xubuntu. Do you want something different?
[04:15] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, Yes mine is identical to yours but Ubuntu oneiric is slightly different and choosing one's USB headset under Ubuntu Oneiric is much easier then on the current version of Xubuntu Oneiric.
[04:15] <Shirakawasuna> ah
[04:16] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, right now I have to use a work around that involves using Pulseaudio volume control in order to get my USB headset to work.
[04:17] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: Because it's the oneiric package, it might not work, but this is the package you want: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/indicator-sound
[04:17] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, Under Ubuntu Oneiric I just simply click on the speaker icon and then slect Sound Preferences and simply select my USB headset and it works..
[04:18] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[04:18] <Shirakawasuna> well you can click the speaker icon, then 'sound preferences' in xubuntu. I don't know if that menu will appear if you update the indicator
[04:19] <Shirakawasuna> you might want to update the pulseaudio mixer instead
[04:19] <Shirakawasuna> is it the mixer that has the options you want, rather than the indicator pull-down menu (the speaker icon)
[04:19] <Shirakawasuna> ?
[04:20] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, How would I go about updating my pulseaudio mixer ?
[04:21] <sandra_> lol now you know why I would love to incorporate Ubuntu's sound applet if it could be done under Xfce which of course Xubuntu uses.
[04:21] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, and thank you for your help I truly appreciate it.
[04:22] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[04:22] <Shirakawasuna> looks like it's 'xfce4-mixer'.
[04:22] <Shirakawasuna> It probably won't be the same as what the main ubuntu mixer does.
[04:23] <Shirakawasuna> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/xfce4-mixer
[04:23] <sandra_> I truly enjoy using Xubuntu it's quick and very responsive but I need to be able to use  my USB headset by simpy plugging it in as one does under windows or ubuntu.
[04:24] <Shirakawasuna> well, it's probably using something similar to alsamixer
[04:25] <Shirakawasuna> if you open a terminal and type 'alsamixer', it might show up
[04:25] <Shirakawasuna> 'm' will unmute once the right setting is selected
[04:25] <Shirakawasuna> (it toggles mute, so it can also mute things)
[04:28] <Shirakawasuna> I would also play around with the xfce mixer, maybe it's just a little different and takes some jiggeirng
[04:29] <sandra_> yes the default mixer currently used in Xubuntu Oneiric is not very functional or user friendly option at this point.
[04:31] <sandra_> No matter what I did I could not get my USB headset to work using Xubuntu mixer that's why I had to download pulseaudio volume control manager w/it my USB headset works but it's a work around at this point.
[04:31] <Shirakawasuna> ideally you should be able to launch the mixer, select the appropriate device, go to 'select controls' and see your headset
[04:32] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, yest I saw my headset in the mixer but no matter what I did sound would not default to my headset.
[04:33] <Shirakawasuna> ah
[04:33] <Shirakawasuna> I've never done anything with that, sandra_, so I probably won't be much help :/
[04:33] <Shirakawasuna> If I had a headset to test out I'd try it, but I don't
[04:34] <sandra_> good intentions count too :-)
[04:42] <sandra_> Shirakawasuna, it was very nice meeting you . thank you for your help.
[04:42] <Shirakawasuna> sandra_: You're welcome. Sorry I couldn't really help much.
[04:44] <sandra_> it's appreciated Shirakawasuna
[06:58] <ssargennto> Hello all... anybody having problems with thunar file manager opening slow on the first time and producing two windows about 15 seconds apart?
[07:02] <cousin_luigi> hello
[07:03]  * cousin_luigi has been trying to use compiz on 11.10 but it crashes very often. Any chance this is just a passing glitch?
[07:08] <raevol> how is oeneric xubuntu looking at the moment? safe to move to it? will be doing a fresh install
[07:08] <well_laid_lawn> it's released next week afaik
[07:09] <well_laid_lawn> !11.10
[07:09] <raevol> yea, that's why i'm asking how it looks now, usually this late in the game it's pretty stable
[07:09] <well_laid_lawn> the folks in the #ubuntu+1 channel should know - I have no idea
[07:10] <raevol> k
[07:10] <raevol> i guess midnight on a saturday is not the best time to bug people ;)
[07:10] <well_laid_lawn> heh ;)
[07:11] <Unit193> About ~6 days now
[07:12] <raevol> man i really wish i had asked when oeneric is being released :D i'd have 2 excellent answers
[07:12] <cousin_luigi> raevol: xfce desktop is not particularly stable on 11.10
[07:12] <raevol> thanks cousin_luigi
[07:13] <cousin_luigi> raevol: but I'm also using compiz on it
[07:13] <raevol> ouch :(
[07:13] <raevol> what video driver?
[07:13] <cousin_luigi> nvidia binary
[07:13] <raevol> ok
[07:16] <raevol> gonna ppa-purge xorg-edgers and get fglrx
[07:16] <raevol> because i am bored
[07:16] <raevol> ttys!
[07:17] <Unit193> Err, scrictly speaking, 5 days
[09:26] <seemawn> hi
[09:27] <seemawn> i watched a youtube-video of a tiling wm for xfce
[09:27] <seemawn> xfwm-tiling or sth, but this video reffered to the arch aur. Is there also a deb-package of this wm?
[09:29] <Sysi> not anything officially packaged, but you can use tiling WMs with xfce
[09:29] <Sysi> dunno if there's ppa or build somewhere
[09:29] <seemawn> yes i know, but it is nasty to setup.
[09:30] <Unit193> All I know is AwesomeWM
[09:30] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions && $WM --replace and save session on logout
[09:31] <seemawn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAc6vc93jxc
[09:31] <seemawn> i meant this
[09:32] <Sysi> that's officially coming in 4.10
[09:33] <seemawn> in 4.10 what?
[09:33] <seemawn> xfce?
[09:33] <Sysi> yes
[09:33] <seemawn> ok
[09:33] <seemawn> and this is not in 11.10, is it?
[09:34] <Sysi> not since it isn't released yet
[09:35] <Sysi> I can't find any packages for xfwm4-tiling.. you could ask at #xfce if you don't want to build packages yourself
[09:37] <Unit193> ./ubottu says it's not in oneiric either
[09:38] <seemawn> schad.e
[09:38] <seemawn> schade.
[09:38] <seemawn> ok thx :)
[10:04] <seemawn> sry, i must complain.
[10:04] <seemawn> or before I do that, I should rather ask for a reason
[10:04] <seemawn> why is a menu editor not aviable anymore?
[10:04] <seemawn> in xfce
[10:05] <Sysi> alacarte works with 4.8
[10:05] <seemawn> okay.
[10:05] <Sysi> menu editor was gone already in 4.6, I don't really know why, 4.8 brought menu editing back
[10:05] <seemawn> because the wiki entry is possibly wrong
[10:07] <seemawn> ~/.cache/xfce4/desktop/menu-cache--home-user-.config-xfce4-desktop-menu.xml
[10:07] <seemawn> this file is missing
[10:07] <seemawn> there is not an xfce4-dir in my .cache.
[10:07] <seemawn> but this environment variable is set
[10:07] <seemawn> but where?
[10:09] <Sysi> I guess you're looking page for 4.6, in 4.8 you edit .desktop files
[10:09] <Sysi> though you can edit some file too.. I can't remember what
[10:12] <Sysi> default ones are in /etc/xdg/menus/ you should copy them to your home before editing
[10:13] <Sysi> .desktop files in /usr/share/applications place them in ~/.local/share/applications add NoDisplay=true if you want
[10:18] <Sysi> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[10:24] <seemawn> Sysi: thank you! alacarte worked for me.
[10:25] <seemawn> sth different
[10:25] <seemawn> ubuntu one costs 2,99 per month for 20 gigs
[10:25] <seemawn> dollars
[10:26] <seemawn> does anyone know the euro-price?
[10:26] <seemawn> anyway compared to db, this is a good price
[10:40] <mossaiby> Any xubuntu developers here?
[10:41] <mossaiby> Need some help with xubuntu 11.10 beta 2
[10:41] <TheSheep> why do you need help from developers?
[10:41] <TheSheep> users should be enough
[10:42] <mossaiby> I do not think so ;)
[10:42] <TheSheep> try anyways
[10:42] <mossaiby> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/863873
[10:42] <mossaiby> yeah
[10:43] <TheSheep> well, there are already people commenting on that bug
[10:44] <mossaiby> me, and an automated script... no real help
[10:44] <knome> it's not the xubuntu developers who can help you with that, but the canonical/ubuntu kernel team
[10:45] <mossaiby> hmmm
[10:45] <mossaiby> I have no problem with ubuntu 11.10 kernel...
[10:45] <TheSheep> mossaiby: bugging people on irc will not make it better though, I guess
[10:45] <mossaiby> so this should be an xubuntu thing
[10:46] <knome> xubuntu does not have a different kernel.
[10:46] <TheSheep> mossaiby: do you think you could snap a photo of the screen with a cellphone, for example?
[10:46] <mossaiby> it restarts very quickly, but I will do my best
[10:46] <Sysi> isn't beta2 image quite old, grab daily
[10:47] <mossaiby> also will try daily
[10:47] <mossaiby> I am on the same computer... need some time to do that!
[10:47] <Sysi> btw I'd use usb-sticks, burning can cause problems
[10:48] <mossaiby> I use grub to boot off the ISO image. It worked so far for other things
[10:48] <Sysi> that sounds good too
[10:51] <mossaiby> hmmm looking at the history, I have tried with a daily build after the beta2 too
[10:51] <mossaiby> but I am again updating to the latest
[10:53] <mossaiby> A simple question! Does daily only have "alternate" image??? I can't seem to find the .zsync file anymore
[10:54] <Sysi> daily-live is live
[10:54] <Sysi> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[10:55] <mossaiby> lots of thanks
[10:55] <mossaiby> updating (a very slow connection here...)
[12:12] <sutherland> how do i find out if i have  PRISM card?
[12:40] <sutherland> how do i find out if i have  PRISM card?
[12:44] <TheSheep> sutherland: lshw
[12:48] <seemawn> hi
[12:48] <seemawn> again
[12:49] <seemawn> when I open my homedir in tunar, it reports, that it cannot be displayed because it be not able to examine .gvfs, socket not connected.
[12:50] <seemawn> ok, I see. It seems to be a bug.
[14:57] <genupulas> i had lost network applet in my xubuntu , i need help to restore it
[14:58] <genupulas> in the top panel at right side we will have that which will show our connections
[14:58] <genupulas> please help me
[16:48] <GridCube> so im on my sister machine
[16:48] <GridCube> and for somereason when i launch applications xorg dies, bad
[16:49] <GridCube> i cant even alt-f2 to anything
[16:49] <GridCube> or go to a tty
[16:49] <GridCube> i now rebooted an i'm using irssi
[16:49] <GridCube> but im afraid of launching anything again
[16:49] <m6locks> what does it say when it dies
[16:50] <GridCube> nothing
[16:50] <GridCube> it just goes black
[16:50] <m6locks> umm, you can't get to a shell after that?
[16:51] <GridCube> nope
[16:52] <m6locks> try ctrl-alt-f2
[16:52] <m6locks> for a different tty
[16:53] <GridCube> im using several ttys now
[16:53] <GridCube> i haven launched xubuntu yet
[16:54] <m6locks> then you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what happens with it
[16:54] <m6locks> well go for it
[16:55] <GridCube> http://paste.ubuntu.com/704525/
[16:57] <m6locks> there seem to be no errors yet, did it crash?
[16:57] <m6locks> i mean pasting it after the crash
[16:57] <GridCube> it went completely black i couldnt keep using it
[16:58] <m6locks> do it again, press ctrl-alt-f2 to get to different tty, pastebin the error using lynx/links/pastebinit
[16:59] <GridCube> will try
[16:59] <GridCube> but it will most probably dont allow me to crtl-alt-f2 like last time
[17:00] <m6locks> you said you tried alt-f2
[17:00] <m6locks> but whatever, try again :)
[17:16] <GridCube> it happened again
[17:17] <GridCube> i was using the system until i launched firefox
[17:17] <GridCube> then it DIED
[17:18] <m6locks> did you get to another shell/tty?
[17:18] <GridCube> noo
[17:18] <GridCube> well this time it showed me tty1 and a mouse cursor
[17:19] <GridCube> but i couldnt use it
[17:19] <GridCube> and couldnt change
[17:19] <GridCube> and the keyboard light didnt turn on/off
[17:19] <m6locks> hmm you got to change to another tty?
[17:20] <GridCube> it was absolutelly and defenitevily DEAD
[17:20] <m6locks> did you try all of them
[17:20] <m6locks> ok
[17:20] <m6locks> seems like its a hardware issue
[17:20] <GridCube> yeah im kinda figuring that too
[17:20] <GridCube> :/
[17:20] <m6locks> the processor gets overloaded and the whole system dies
[17:20] <m6locks> or somwething
[17:26] <Sysi> or just driver hangs
[17:26] <Sysi> what graphics?
[17:26] <Sysi> does livecd work
[17:35] <GridCube> i do not have a live cd
[17:35] <GridCube> well gonna reboot and see what happens after creating a xorg.conf
[17:41] <GridCube> that didnt work
[17:42] <GridCube> i can't remember how to configure xorg from a tty
[17:42] <GridCube> but i guess i can't do that anymore
[17:50] <genupulas> i had lost network applet in my xubuntu , i need help to restore it
[17:50] <genupulas> in the top panel at right side we will have that which will show our connections
[17:54] <GridCube> oh... this is nice
[18:03] <m6locks> genupulas: right click panel -> add new items
[18:04] <genupulas> m6locks:  thanx finally you pick this
[18:04] <genupulas> m6locks:  no man i had tried all those things
[18:05] <m6locks> its not showing up?
[18:05] <genupulas> m6locks:  i have network monitor but not that applet which is have the ability to maintain network connections
[18:05] <genupulas> no that applet not showing up
[18:06] <m6locks> its liek one line on google http://www.ubuntugeek.com/possible-solutions-to-fix-the-missing-network-manager-icon-in-ubuntu-9-10.html
[18:07] <genupulas> m6locks:  i will check this out  by restarting my pc
[18:07] <genupulas> m6locks:  Thank you
[18:07] <m6locks> np
[18:20] <raju> m6locks,  hi man , i got solved the issue
[18:20] <raju> m6locks,  now i am with xubuntu 11.10
[18:21] <raju> actually old trick worked here
[18:21] <m6locks> raju: nice, what'd you do?
[18:21] <raju> panel preference-_items-indicator applet
[18:21] <m6locks> ok
[18:21] <raju> m6locks,  thank you man
[18:22] <m6locks> you're welcom
[18:23] <YodaRULZ> Hello
[18:24] <YodaRULZ> Can someone please help me with a problem?
[18:25] <charlie-tca> !helpme
[18:25] <charlie-tca> oh, nope
[18:26] <charlie-tca> YodaRULZ: please ask your question, all on one line if possible, and if someone knows the answer, they will tell you.
[18:26] <charlie-tca> No one here seems to answer questions that are not asked, and all problems have details.
[18:32] <rootbeer> Whenever I run a program, the top of the window containing the close, minimize, and restore buttons is missing. Also, the program wont show up in the taskbar.
[18:32] <rootbeer> Does anyone know how to resolve this?
[18:33] <charlie-tca> Press Alt+F2, xfwm4
[18:37] <YodaRULZ> After several minutes, I cannot enter anything into text input boxes other than in my browser. I have tried restarting and it didn't help.
[18:39] <Shirakawasuna> have you tried closing the browser and making sure the process is truly dead? (ps aux | grep firefox)
[18:41] <YodaRULZ> Thats not the problem
[18:41] <YodaRULZ> I cant enter anywhere BUT in my browser
[18:41] <YodaRULZ> Thats how I'm on this irc channel.
[18:52] <YodaRULZ> And mvm
[18:55] <GridCube> !info gnomebaker
[18:55] <GridCube> !info gnomebaker oneiric
[18:56] <GridCube> :/
[18:56] <GridCube> so xfburn doesnt have drag'n'drop whit thunar, gnomebaker did
[18:56] <GridCube> what a proper replacement for xfburn then?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> proper replacement? I use xfburn
[20:03] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-)
[20:04] <sandra_> I hope everyone is doing well today.
[20:04] <zenrox> i am fine
[20:05] <sandra_> zenrox, Glad to hear it
[20:06] <sandra_> I was hoping someone here who has a talent for tinkering and mix & matching could give me a hand.
[20:07] <zenrox> mix and matching what
[20:08] <sandra_> What I would like to do is incorporate Ubuntu Oneiric speaker icon applet into Xubuntu so I can readily use my USB headset in Xubuntu w/out resorting to the work around I'm currently using in order to use my USB headset.
[20:09] <sandra_> I know this can be done because I went to distrowatch.com and downloaded PC/OS which is based on Xubuntu and has same sound preference interface that Ubuntu uses and of course my USB headset worked w/out a hitch.
[20:10] <charlie-tca> Then just install what they use for the mixer?
[20:10] <sandra_> zenrox, I'd like to do the same in Xubuntu Oneiric if I could .
[20:11] <sandra_> I figure if the creator of PC/OS could do it why not Xubuntu ?
[20:12] <charlie-tca> because Xubuntu doesn't want to pull in the gnome dependencies it uses?
[20:13] <zenrox> what about xfce-xfapplet-plugin it will allow you to run gnome applets in the xfce4 tackbar
[20:13] <sandra_> charlie-tca,  why not pull it in ? as it stands something as basic and needed as USB headset support is a must have.
[20:13] <charlie-tca> As a user, why can't you just install their "mixer" to replace xfce4-mixer?
[20:14] <sandra_> charlie-tca, I'm new to linux on the whole if someone told me a few months ago that I would be mix and matching OS components I would of laughed in total unbelief lol
[20:14] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu strives to remain as lightweight as it can, any added gnome dependencies must be carefully considered.
[20:14] <sandra_> I know my dearly departed husband who was a programer wouldn't of believed it lol
[20:15] <charlie-tca> But not so new as to not have found that Ubuntu and PC/OS use the same things?
[20:16] <sandra_> charlie-tca, I work as a project manager so I'm use to researching  things I'm not familiar with lol
[20:16] <sandra_> in order to gain a better understanding of any solution on the whole so to speak.
[20:17] <sandra_> charlie-tca, btw PC/OS ran extremely fast on my HP-HDX-18-Laptop
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I do not know the name of the app they are using, but it would seem easy to install if known. Just open a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get install ???' without the quotes
[20:18] <sandra_> charlie-tca, So I don't believe using Ubuntu's sound preference menu would slow things down
[20:19] <charlie-tca> The question is how much it would slow down for most users of Xubuntu. That's why we let individuals install the things they want. We give you what we consider the best fit for the distribution.
[20:19] <sandra_> it just strikes me as odd that I can't use my USB headset as my default sound unit under the current Xubuntu Oneiric system.
[20:21] <sandra_> I had to install Pulseaudio Volume Control in order to use my USB headset as a work around.
[20:22] <sandra_> charlie-tca, is there a way I can find out what sound mixer program Ubuntu Oneiric or PC/OS is using ?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> Ask in #ubuntu+1, where the Ubuntu Oceiric users are?
[20:23] <charlie-tca> I don't use Ubuntu, and don't have it installed here to try and find it
[20:25] <sandra_> I ran PC/OS off a live USB key w/out loading it on my hard drive in order find out what I did so far.
[20:25] <sandra_> charlie-tca, that IRC addy that you were kind enough to provide me with is it on the freenode server too ?
[20:35] <sandra__> charlie-tca, perhaps you know of way using the  current Xfce mixer to work and allow one's USB headset to be the default sound source ?
[20:36] <sandra__> perhaps anyone who isn't greyed out on the user list have a answer ? thanks.
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> there should be a conf file for the mixer in ~/.config
[20:37] <well_laid_lawn> iirc
[20:40] <sandra__> well_laid_lawn, I am new to linux  and Xubuntu and I'm eager to learn . How would I find this file ?
[20:41] <sandra__> My original thought was to perhaps pull in Ubuntu Oneiric sound preferences  program and use it since it works far better then what Xubuntu is currently using when it comes to using one's USB headset.
[20:42] <well_laid_lawn> it'll be in .config/xfce4
[20:42] <sandra__> well_laid_lawn, I saw this was possible based on a Xfce distro called PC/OS which I saw on www.distrowatch.com
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> it's an xml file
[20:44] <sandra__> well_laid_lawn, is that file under for example etc or usr  or share folder ?
[20:45] <sandra__> it's too bad that the sound preferences option under Xubuntu can't simply handle a simple USB headset option the mixer see's it but can't default sound to it.
[20:45] <well_laid_lawn> the ~ in ~/.config means your home dir
[21:12] <andres-kain> ubuntuone in xubuntu... is it ok?
[21:13] <zenrox> yes
[21:13] <charlie-tca> You can try, you probably will need some help from #ubuntuone if you don't want to install nautilus and a bunch of gnome
[21:13] <charlie-tca> zenrox: you have it working?
[21:14] <zenrox> i was working
[21:14] <zenrox> it
[21:15] <zenrox> till oneiric fliped out
[21:15] <zenrox> but it works in natty
[21:15] <zenrox> yes i still had to install all the gnome shit
[21:15] <charlie-tca> Oh, okay
[21:15] <zenrox> but it works
[21:15] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:16] <charlie-tca> almost better to install Ubuntu and use ubuntuone, it works.
[21:16] <zenrox> nicer to just install bits and peices
[21:16] <zenrox> lol
[21:16] <charlie-tca> Dropbox works well with Xubuntu, though. I did the cli dropbox install, and it is still working
[21:16] <zenrox> i have dropbox too
[21:16] <zenrox> that was easy
[21:17] <charlie-tca> +1
[21:17] <charlie-tca> I got ubuntuone to work in maverick, without the gnome stuff, but it failed in natty for me
[21:18] <zenrox> something was different might have to modify what you did
[21:20] <GridCube> oh well things work now
[21:20] <GridCube> I had to replace lightdm whit gdm
[21:20] <GridCube> :/
[21:21] <charlie-tca> zenrox: fought with it for about 4 months, then stopped paying my money and went to dropbox
[21:22] <charlie-tca> The response from ubuntuone folks was "it should work"...
[21:22] <zenrox> hmm
[21:22] <zenrox> cause thay expect you to install all the gnome shit
[21:22] <charlie-tca> which, of course, I figured out before they said it
[21:22] <zenrox> lol
[21:23] <charlie-tca> it's okay, dropbox hasn't refused any payments either.
[21:23] <charlie-tca> I just prefer giving money where things work for me :)
[21:24] <zenrox> ya agreed
[22:08] <dieterd_> Hi, what's wrong with initrd.img created by update from xubuntu 10.04.2 to 10.04.3. Since then I have grub error 18. Any ideas for repair?  Grub repair and reinstall can't solve this.
[22:19] <charlie-tca> dieterd_: do you have grub installed to a partition or mbr?
[22:24] <charlie-tca> well, alrighty then.
[22:27] <zenrox> tipical
[22:32] <charlie-tca> Heh, they did wait until I responded, at least
[22:43] <zenrox> got to give them that much credit
[23:07] <csenger41> hey everyone :)


[00:13] <EriC^^> heya lotuspsychje
[00:13] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[00:14] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[00:14] <lotuspsychje> fine mate and you?
[00:14] <lotuspsychje> incomnia here
[00:14] <lotuspsychje> insomnia :p
[00:15] <EriC^^> good thanks
[00:15] <EriC^^> put some music on
[00:17] <lotuspsychje> gf sleeps :p
[00:19] <EriC^^> ah
[00:20] <lotuspsychje> so ill tire myself on irc :p
[00:22] <EriC^^> hehe
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> nite nite :p
[07:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:37] <baizon> hi lordievader
[07:41] <lordievader> Hey baizon, how are you?
[07:46] <baizon> lordievader fine and you? :)
[07:47] <lordievader> Doing good, having coffee :)
[07:48] <baizon> got that covered already
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon
[10:41] <EriC^^> afternoon
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> sunny outside today here
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> going for a walk later
[10:42] <EriC^^> cool, here as well
[10:42] <EriC^^> cool
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:16] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Good help had arrived . :)
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om still up mate?
[17:27] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Oh, just starting my day .. Still on consumming my cognitive fluid .
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> hmm im lost in timezones then :p
[17:29] <Bashing-om> WWW ! .. me I be at GMT -5 .
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> 19h30 here
[17:31] <Bashing-om> 12:30 for me ... and still not up to speed .. getting there .
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-unity-8-desktop-progress-video
[17:52] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: No sound on this box, and with video, well .. this graphic's card is on it's last leg and videos stress it to the point of shutting my system down . .. Is unity 8 going to make it into the release ?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: installable, still unity7 by default
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> will be interesting times for touch devices
[17:54] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Uh, huh .. getting ready to move on up with unity . We be testing still, yeah ?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> yep
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> 3 weeks till final :p
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> just ordered a samsung 850 pro 128gig for my netbook for xenial release :p
[17:58] <daftykins> netbooks ;_;
[17:58] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: My desire also .. want to go with an SSD for ny 16.04 install ( and also a new Nvidia graphic's card ) .. now if the other half will allocate the funds - without too much fuss !
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> great
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys movies


[04:59] <soren> cjwatson: Oh, I literally meant "get en error back from the ftp server". Not an e-mail, but an FTP-ish sort of error.
[08:02] <mapreri> That's weired: I received a failure email (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7026248/) while the build was successful: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openmsx-catapult/0.10.0-1ubuntu2/+build/5653147
[08:24] <wgrant> mapreri: Looks like someone retried it in the meantime.
[08:25] <wgrant> mapreri: The email gives the duration as 4 minutes, and was sent at 06:25. The successful build started at 06:31
[08:31] <mapreri> wgrant: ah! didn't note. Thanks :)
[10:40] <cjwatson> soren: ah, no, I don't think it's that clever
[10:43] <soren> cjwatson: Evidently not. I do remember that some combination of circumstances would make the FTP server reject the upload immediately, though.
[10:43] <soren> Yup, found it:
[10:43] <soren> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/798957
[10:45] <soren> I only ever saw it as a false negative, though.
[11:40] <t^2> I'm trying to run apport-collect without X, using lynx, and it fails complaining about lack of REFERER header. As far as I know, lynx can't send REFERER (any more than links), or is there some trick to make it do so?
[11:44] <t^2> Or is there some other way to run apport-collect without X?
[11:48] <cjwatson> Try w3m?
[11:54] <t^2> Nope, w3m has the same problem. :-(
[11:56] <t^2> Is there a simple document somewhere describing what apport-collect sends - I could attach same info to the bug report manually?
[12:08] <cjwatson> You can use "apport-cli -p <package> --save foo.crash" and then pick through the .crash file
[12:08] <cjwatson> Though unfortunately https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/1208508
[12:10] <t^2> Ugh. Well, added myself as one affected by 1208508.
[17:55] <ychaouche> Hello !
[17:55] <ychaouche> is there a way to search in log messages in launchpad ?
[18:20] <dobey> ychaouche: what do you mean?
[18:21] <ychaouche> dobey: I want to search for a particular string in commit messages of a particular project hosted on launchpad
[18:21] <ychaouche> oh sorry I have written log messages I meant commit messages.
[18:21] <ychaouche> something similar to bzr-search
[18:23] <dobey> you could do it with bzrlib in python
[18:23] <ychaouche> I'm currently checkouting the project just to search for a string but it's taking forever to download (151Mb and still downloading...)
[18:23] <dobey> there's no way to search commit messages in branches on launchpad or via the launchpad API
[18:24] <ychaouche> oh ok
[18:24] <dobey> why would you want to find a particular string in all commit messages ever, anyway?
[18:24] <ychaouche> dobey: to understand the rational behind duplicated code in a function.
[18:25] <ychaouche> I thought maybe I'd find a clue in the devs commit messages if I grep the function name.
[18:25] <ychaouche> *IF* the devs write meaningful messages of course, which would be a miracle right ?
[18:25] <dobey> you an use "bzr blame" to see when a change was done, and bzr log to see the message for that commit
[18:26] <ychaouche> dobey: it will only show the last change
[18:26] <dobey> you can also browse the tree on launchpad, and choose "show revision information" when looking at a file, to see when it was last changed
[18:26] <dobey> ychaouche: well, bzr log can also limit the output to changes to a specific file
[18:26] <ychaouche> ah that might be helpful
[18:27] <dobey> and you can pass a revno to bzr blame, so if it wasn't the last revision that the function changed, which made the change you're looking for, you can bzr blame -r $previousrevno to get older info
[18:28] <dobey> and now i have to go get food
[18:28] <ychaouche> bon appétit
[19:37] <ktosiek> Can I add an existing package (but with different series) to my PPA?
[19:51] <dobey> ktosiek: sure, as long as the version doesn't conflict
[21:28] <iulian> Hi. Why is my @ubuntu.com email bouncing up and down and not receiving anything? https://launchpad.net/~iulian
[21:29] <iulian> I haven't changed anything on my LP page in ages.
[21:33] <dobey> iulian: what do you mean by that exactly? do you have specific error messages from trying to send mail to that address?
[21:37] <iulian> dobey: 1148.00 <Laney> I got a mail from CIVS saying that your ubuntu.com email bounced, FYI
[21:37] <iulian> And I can confirm that I haven't received emails for the past... couple of months I presume.
[21:39] <cjwatson> iulian: #canonical-sysadmin stands a better chance of being able to investigate; all Launchpad does here is store data which the sysadmins scrape for building the database of ubuntu.com addresses
[21:39] <cjwatson> ubuntu.com mail doesn't go through Launchpad systems or anything
[21:39] <cjwatson> iulian: That said ... normally your preferred e-mail address in Launchpad needs to be set to something that isn't @ubuntu.com
[21:40] <iulian> cjwatson: Ah, got it. I'll move the conversation over there then.
[21:40] <cjwatson> iulian: Because that's what @ubuntu.com uses as the forwarding address
[21:40] <iulian> I've had that for a couple of years I think and it did work.
[21:40] <cjwatson> It may have been overridden at some point, I don't know, but that's what I always understood to be the rule
[21:40] <cjwatson> However #c-s would be more authoritative
[21:40] <iulian> Cool, ta.
[21:41] <dobey> the address it forwards to is bouncing
[21:41] <dobey> it's not bouncing from the ubuntu.com relay itself
[21:42] <iulian> Ahhh, I think I know what the problem is.
[21:42] <dobey> so change it to one that doesn't bounce, or bug the physics.org admins :)
[21:44] <iulian> Yea, I can't change it to my gmail one because apparently ~iulian-udrea is registered with my gmail account so I have to merge that.
[21:48] <iulian> Should work now. Thanks dobey!