[02:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Preparing packages
[02:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Pending binary packages (zesty/storage-framework). Successfully built (xenial/storage-framework)
[02:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Successfully built
[04:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/storage-framework). Successfully built (xenial/storage-framework)
[04:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Preparing packages
[05:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2607 Successfully built
[06:44] <mardy> Mirv: hi! Can you please publish this, when you have a minute? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2572
[07:33] <Mirv> mardy: ok
[07:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2572 Publishing packages
[07:36] <mardy> Mirv: thanks!
[07:42] <Mirv> you're welcome!
[07:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2572 Proposed pocket (zesty/account-plugins). Release pocket (xenial/account-plugins)
[08:40] <jamesh> so, bileto no longer builds silos on zesty/powerpc, but the automated check complains about missing zesty/powerpc binaries
[08:52] <sil2100> robru: ^
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2572 Release pocket
[09:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2603 Publishing packages
[09:18] <Mirv> if we'd running 14400bps modems still I'm sure I wouldn't be allowed to upload 140MB archive to remove one space character
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2603 Proposed pocket
[09:30] <sil2100> Mirv, jibel, davmor2: eh, I be on the HO in a minute, need to setup my chrome again
[09:31] <Mirv> sil2100: ok
[09:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2601 Failed to build (zesty/vmware-nsx). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (zesty/neutron)
[09:56] <rvr> mardy: Hi. Take a look to the comments here https://trello.com/c/GDl0yyNl/4053-2572-2572-account-plugins-mardy-dbarth
[09:59] <mardy> rvr: hi! in unity8 it doesn't work because of bug 1668657
[09:59] <mardy> rvr: nothing should be crashing in unity7, please provide more details
[10:00] <rvr> mardy: Ok
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2601 Diff missing (zesty/sqlalchemy). Failed to build (zesty/vmware-nsx). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (zesty/neutron)
[10:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Preparing packages
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cpaelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2603 Release pocket
[10:53] <alf__> ubuntu-qa: Hi! Automated signoff of 2602 (protobuf) is failing due to an autopackage failure. However, the failure is not caused by the protobuf changes, since I get the same failure with a no-change rebuild of the current package (built as ticket 2607). Can we override the autopackage failure?
[10:54] <alf__> ubuntu-qa: correction, the no-change rebuild is ticket 2606
[10:57] <davmor2> alf__: no idea, sil2100 is this something you might know about at all?  If not it might be down to jibel when he is not so busy
[10:58] <sil2100> hmm
[10:59] <sil2100> Normally we'd want these autopkgtests fixed anyway, since if this goes out to -proposed it'll get blocked anyway
[10:59] <sil2100> I don
[11:00] <alf__> sil2100: davmor2: This is only for xenial+overlay
[11:00] <sil2100> Ah
[11:00] <sil2100> hm
[11:01] <alf__> sil2100: davmor2: (well, I also want to push a similar change to zesty but I am not going through bileto for that)
[11:01] <davmor2> alf__: you should go though billeto for both
[11:01] <sil2100> Ok, then I leave this up to jibel to decide, if he's ok with that then we can override
[11:01] <davmor2> -l
[11:01] <sil2100> For the xenial-overlay part
[11:02] <alf__> davmor2: sil2100: well, in any case it needs to be different tickets since zesty has a different protobuf version, so I think we can decide on each one independently
[11:04] <alf__> davmor2: sil2100: thanks, I will wait for jibel's decision
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> jibel, I want to publish oxide security updates this week
[11:06] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: just land it through a silo should be fine although there are some other constraints that maybe delay testing slightly, like final beta, snapd release and so on
[11:07] <chrisccoulson> davmor2, the problem is when I publish to xenial-security, I break everyone elses landings (unless oxide lands in the overlay PPA first)
[11:09] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: right, so we will test it there are just other priorities to take into account with it is all, it would almost certainly be this week just couldn't guarantee a day
[11:11] <davmor2> chrisccoulson: we can also prioritise the silo once it is in the queue if it isn't already
[11:11] <chrisccoulson> davmor2, ack
[11:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app)
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamespage, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2601 Diff missing (zesty/sqlalchemy). Failed to build (zesty/vmware-nsx)
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app)
[11:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2454 Release pocket
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Preparing packages
[12:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Preparing packages
[12:13] <rvr> mardy: Approved. Couldn't reproduce the crash after rebooting the vm.
[12:13] <rvr> (several times)
[12:14] <mardy> rvr: it probably was Russian hackers, nothing to worry about ;-)
[12:14] <rvr> mardy: lol
[12:14] <rvr> mardy: Do you have an ETA for #1668657?
[12:15] <mardy> rvr: no, I'm not on it
[12:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Preparing packages
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2519 Generating diffs
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2519 Successfully built
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Preparing packages
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2519 Generating diffs
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8)
[12:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app)
[12:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2386 Preparing packages
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/libertine). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/url-dispatcher)
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-filemanager-app). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-filemanager-app)
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2519 Successfully built
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2611 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2386 Pending binary packages
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Failed to build
[13:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2386 Successfully built
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Successfully built
[14:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Preparing packages
[14:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-printing-app, zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras)
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 QA Signoff:
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Kaleo, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2533 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-terminal-app). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-terminal-app)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/libertine). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-app-launch, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/url-dispatcher)
[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 Preparing packages
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Dependency wait (zesty/telephony-service). Failed to build (zesty/telepathy-ofono). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/history-service). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/telepathy-mission-control-5, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/telepathy-mission-control-5)
[14:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2612 Preparing packages
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2599 Publishing packages
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Preparing packages
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 Pending binary packages
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2608 Preparing packages
[15:05] <davmor2> jibel: alf__ has a question about autopackage tests
[15:07] <alf__> jibel: davmor2: (repasting from earlier) Hi! Automated signoff of 2602 (protobuf) is failing due to an autopackage failure. However, the failure is not caused by the protobuf changes, since I get the same failure with a no-change rebuild of the current package (built as ticket 2606). Can we override the autopackage failure?
[15:13] <jibel> alf__, why is appstream failing in bileto? it passes on all the releases http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/appstream
[15:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2612 Successfully built
[15:16] <jibel> robru, what is the purpose of this page https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-2602-excuses/?format=plain#list_of_past_excuses ?
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Bad merges (zesty/qtmir). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[15:17] <alf__> jibel: I don't know, perhaps it has something to do with other packages in the overlay?
[15:17] <dobey> jibel: you can see older excuses, and it's nice to see how long it's taking between britney runs
[15:18] <jibel> dobey, how do you see older excuses? there is no link or urls
[15:19] <dobey> jibel: i don't think the autopkgtest.u.c/packages links show status for ppa builds, only last runs for release
[15:20] <dobey> jibel: copy/paste each line into the url, after the path, ie https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-2602-excuses/2017-03-17_14:15:02/2602_xenial_excuses.html
[15:21] <jibel> dobey, right, my point is that appstream passes for the release but not with the overlay. So which package breaks it in the overlay is the question if it is not protobuf
[15:21] <jibel> davmor2, ah thanks
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2599 Proposed pocket (zesty/ubuntu-printing-app). Release pocket (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app)
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Successfully built
[15:23] <dobey> jibel: no idea
[15:24] <dobey> well the failed autopkgtest is "build"
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2562 Successfully built
[15:24] <dobey> so that's kind of weird anyway
[15:25] <dobey> Aborted (core dumped)
[15:26] <dobey> jibel, alf__: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24215803/ is the specific error there
[15:27] <alf__> dobey: jibel: I noticed something interesting: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/appstream/xenial/amd64 , you will notice that the autopackage test triggered by 1ubuntu2 for itself failed
[15:27] <dobey> tedg, kenvandine: ^^^ yay! successfully built. hurry up and land it before other things break?
[15:27] <kenvandine> dobey, :)
[15:28] <alf__> dobey: jibel: (second line in the page)
[15:28] <alf__> dobey: jibel: the top line is interestingly 1ubuntu1
[15:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Preparing packages
[15:28] <jibel> alf__, ah same error, so that would be appstream itself
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2608 Successfully built
[15:30] <alf__> jibel: right, so it seems it landed in xenial-updates despite of the failure (probably forced)
[15:34] <alf__> jibel: so autopackage test was ran on 2016-12-02, it landed on 2017-01-25 (according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream). In the meantime another autopkgtest ran using 1ubuntu1 (which succeeded) hence we get the deceiving all-green chart autopkgtest.u.c
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Preparing packages
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 zesty/qtmir: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/qtmir/make_sure_surface_not_null
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2599 Release pocket
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Successfully built
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2613 Preparing packages
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Pending binary packages (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/content-hub, zesty/libertine, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/url-dispatcher)
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Preparing packages
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8)
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2612 Preparing packages
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Preparing packages
[16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Preparing packages
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Preparing packages
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Preparing packages
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2613 Abandoning ticket
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Successfully built
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2610 Successfully built
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2612 Successfully built
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Bad merges (zesty/qtmir). Currently building (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir-gles). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, zesty/unity-api)
[16:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Currently building (xenial/history-service). Dependency wait (zesty/telephony-service). Failed to build (zesty/history-service, zesty/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/telepathy-mission-control-5, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/telepathy-mission-control-5)
[16:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Failed to build
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Dependency wait (zesty/telephony-service). Failed to build (zesty/history-service, zesty/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (xenial/empathy, xenial/history-service, xenial/telepathy-mission-control-5, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service, zesty/empathy, zesty/telepathy-mission-control-5)
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Successfully built (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8). Uploading build (zesty/qtmir)
[17:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2381 Preparing packages
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2611 Ready to build
[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Bad merges (zesty/qtmir). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir-gles). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Pending binary packages (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity-api)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/content-hub, zesty/libertine, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/url-dispatcher)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Preparing packages
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Successfully built
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Preparing packages
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Preparing packages
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- camako, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2609 Preparing packages
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2555 Preparing packages
[17:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Preparing packages
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2373 Bad merges (zesty/qtmir). Failed to build (xenial/qtmir-gles). Failed to upload (xenial/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/unity-api)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2264 Currently building (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (xenial/libertine, zesty/libertine)
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2605 Destination version missing from changelog (zesty/ubuntu-ui-extras). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-printing-app, xenial/ubuntu-ui-extras, zesty/ubuntu-printing-app)
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg kenvandine pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2577 Currently building (zesty/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/url-dispatcher, zesty/content-hub, zesty/libertine, zesty/ubuntu-system-settings, zesty/url-dispatcher)
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[18:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2311 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-qt, zesty/telepathy-qt). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-service, xenial/libircclient, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-framework, xenial/mfw-plugin-irc, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/address-book-service, zesty/libircclient, zesty/messaging-app, zesty/messaging-framework, zesty/mfw-plugin-irc)
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[19:27] <oSoMoN> trainguards: could you please re-run https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2615/+build/12149276 and https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2615/+build/12149277 (flaky tests)?
[19:30] <robru> oSoMoN: done
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[23:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2283 Preparing packages


[00:44] <Niedzwiedz> hi all
[00:56] <raj_> hello
[00:56] <raj_> help
[02:46] <Thaurwylth> Hey, this is going to be Ubuntu Touch or Ubu desktop on mobile device related, I swear, even though it may not look like it right away! But, uhm. Anyway. Is this just a local problem or do I spy correctly that it seems pretty hard to find Windows tablets which are 9" or LESS in size?
[02:46] <Thaurwylth> Android devices seem to be plentiful also in the strictly below 9" category.
[02:54] <Thaurwylth> Augh, latter 9" should be 10".
[05:47] <nhaines> Thaurwylth: Which part was Ubuntu-related?  :)
[07:25] <dhbiker> hi there
[07:26] <dhbiker> i'm curious how this core thing in arale works
[07:26] <dhbiker> because i only see mmaximum of 2 cores active (out of 8 ofc)
[07:26] <dhbiker> does it need some fixes or is it done by the CPU itself ?
[07:43] <TonyBoston> can someone tell me what the new way of syncing stuff was in ota6?
[07:43] <TonyBoston> like syncevolution
[07:43] <TonyBoston> but there was something new
[07:43] <TonyBoston> b...something
[07:57] <popey> TonyBoston: its not in ota6
[07:57] <popey> buteo
[07:58] <TonyBoston> ahh buteo, right
[07:58] <TonyBoston> popey, so should one still be using syncevolution then
[07:58] <popey> dhbiker: not all processors (cores) are powered up all the time. under heavy load it will spin up more cores
[07:58] <popey> TonyBoston: sync-monitor and eds, yes.
[07:59] <TonyBoston> monitor?
[07:59] <TonyBoston> eds?
[08:02] <dhbiker> popey, yes... but is it HW controlled or driver side
[08:08] <popey> dhbiker: not sure.
[08:08] <popey> dhbiker: I think there are kernel options to fiddle with, but not sure where
[08:08] <popey> TonyBoston: yes, launchpad.net/sync-monitor and EDS
[08:10] <TonyBoston> popey, do you know if I could sync more than one calendar with it?
[08:10] <TonyBoston> also if its working with owncloud or another caldav service
[08:46] <deejay-bertix> Hello I have one question for install of ubuntu touch in meizu mx4 (ubuntu edition original)
[08:48] <deejay-bertix> I have a meizu mx4 and I would like to install ubuntu touch original version (meizu ubuntu edition) Can you help me please ?
[08:52] <deejay-bertix> j'ai une question j'ai un meizu mx4 et j'aimerai installer ubuntu touch mais la version edition originale comme quand on le commande avec Ubuntu deja installé dedans
[08:54] <deejay-bertix> car aucune personne et pas de documentation sur la manière de procéder appart avec ubuntu-devices-flash ou bien c'est une autre image que l'on met dedans
[08:58] <popey> TonyBoston: no, it only does the default calendar, known issue, we are working on fixing
[08:58] <TonyBoston> popey, thanks
[09:14] <evanwang> deejay-bertix,hey, please refer to this wiki https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuEngineering/QA/Phone/ChannelsToFlash, hope that would help :)
[09:41] <deejay-bertix> I have not acess in Wiki canonical sorry why ? I don't know
[09:42] <deejay-bertix> I have already rigister in wiki/canonical
[09:43] <deejay-bertix> register*
[09:56] <DanChapman> deejay-bertix: here's a public list of image channels https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[11:47] <johnsonSteward> Where can I get the source code of Ubuntu touch?
[12:00] <popey> johnsonSteward: mostly on launchpad
[12:00] <popey> johnsonSteward: anything in particular?
[13:22] <johnsonSteward> popey: is there web view?
[13:24] <johnsonSteward> popey: im trying to port Linux to nexus 5, and trying to understand how ubuntu-touch handles android lxc containers and libhybris
[13:28] <popey> johnsonSteward: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers lists many of the projects that make up ubuntu touch
[13:28] <popey> there is already a nexus port, maintained by Tassadar
[13:29] <johnsonSteward> popey: I'm not porting Ubuntu touch; I'm porting Gentoo and this may be helpful
[13:30] <johnsonSteward> popey: that link doesn't contain low level things, such as HAL
[13:33] <popey> my point was the ubuntu touch port to nexus 5 may be a useful reference
[13:33] <popey> we don't use HAL.
[13:33] <popey> deprecated a while back
[13:34] <johnsonSteward> popey: I have plasma active(based on Ubuntu touch) in multirom now.
[13:34] <johnsonSteward> popey: I mean Android hal for graphics and telephony
[13:35] <ogra_> johnsonSteward, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture
[13:37] <Thaurwylth> Nhaines, I'm trying to figure out devices for my future Ubuntu installation. So after that question the next questions might have become Ubuntu specific.
[14:08] <haky86> hi guys, i managed to port ubutu touch on s2 plus aka s2vep, since my device doesn't support fast boot, i made an odin version to flash boot.img and recovery.img which work fine, after install the system.img and wili package from rootstock, the installation is done now ubuntu stored on /data/ubuntu but stuck on logo and cannot get even logcat to check what are problems, does  required apparmor 3 patch and where can i get it?tha
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> you guys seen this1 yet: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/aiforeveryone/mycroft-an-open-source-artificial-intelligence-for
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> powered by snappy


[07:09] <justCarakas> good morning all
[07:10] <mihir> nik90: when you around , could you please confirm this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1374258
[07:10] <mihir> justCarakas: morning :)
[07:10] <nik90> morning :-)
[07:10] <nik90> mihir: sure, 1 min
[07:12] <nik90> mihir: my phone has no charge, I am charging it, but will comment on the bug report asap.
[07:12] <mihir> nik90: no issues :)
[07:18] <nik90> mihir: it opens in calendar for me...the clock app irc meeting
[07:20] <mihir> nik90: hmmm okay
[07:46] <davidcalle> Morning all
[08:02] <fcole90> Hello everyone :)
[08:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Dream Day! :-D
[08:03] <fcole90> I need to integrate file-qml-plugin in docviewer app, how did you do that in the other apps (like reminders, terminal, file-manager) ? :)
[08:05] <fcole90> I was looking at their source but could not find trace of the original src files of the plugin, so I'm thinking that I need to insert in the source code and not as a plugin.. Is that the way? :)
[08:30] <dpm> ciao fcole90
[08:30] <dpm> yes, the idea is to grab the source code from the plugin's separate project
[08:30] <dpm> and put it into the app's source tree
[08:31] <dpm> once there, it will still be a plugin. Then you'll generally just check out one branch, containing both the plugin and the app, and build them together
[08:32] <dpm> As I say, it will still be a plugin, but shipped into the same click package as the app
[08:33] <dpm> you can see it in the reminders app: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/files/head:/src/
[08:33] <dpm> under the src directory there are 2 other subdirectories:
[08:33] <dpm> - app: contains the app
[08:34] <dpm> - plugin: contains, unsurprisingly, the plugin :)
[08:38] <fcole90> hello dpm :) yes, that's what I had seen, but was looking for the specific qml-file-plugin :D Instead I need to insert it int the same way the other apps are shipping their plugins :)
[08:39] <fcole90> dpm, I will try that, thanks for the help :)
[08:41] <mihir> dpm: ping
[08:41] <dpm> fcole90, yes. If you build the reminders app, you'll see the actual plugin being built. Here's the layout of its click package. You'll see the built plugin in line 16: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8044356/
[08:41] <mihir> dpm: i have pushed mr, when you get time could you please review this ----> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/rewriteGetRecurrenceString/+merge/236013
[08:44] <fcole90> dpm, quite nice and polished, I like it a lot :) I'll try to have a result just as good :)
[08:47] <dpm> mihir, done, thanks!
[08:48] <dpm> fcole90, cool, let us know if you need help :)
[08:49] <fcole90> dpm, I will, thank you for your help :)
[10:06] <rpadovani> hey mardy, when I do login in evernote account there is autocomplete in mail field. I tried to take a look to the code, but I don't find where I can specify to disable it. Any idea?
[10:07] <rpadovani> *keyboard autocomplete on phone
[10:12] <vitimiti> hi
[11:02] <mardy> rpadovani: I noticed as well, it's quite annoying
[11:02] <mardy> oSoMoN: any ideas? ^
[11:03] <nik90> rpadovani, mardy: Quite simple -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.TextField/#inputMethodHints-prop
[11:03] <nik90> rpadovani, mardy : set it to Qt.ImhNoPredictiveText
[11:03] <rpadovani> mardy, another thing, did you change anything in online accounts api? displayName is a void string, but other strings (providerName, serviceName) works well
[11:03] <rpadovani> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/view/head:/src/app/qml/ui/AccountSelectorPage.qml#L55
[11:04] <rpadovani> nik90, we know that, the problem is WHERE to set it :D
[11:04] <nik90> rpadovani: ah fair enough..I got no idea then :P
[11:04] <mardy> nik90: the problem is that this is a webpage inside the browser
[11:05] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, if that’s a webpage you don’t have any control over, then you’re out of luck… basically the type of the input field determines the hints that are set for the OSK, and that’s set as an HTML attribute
[11:07] <mardy> oSoMoN: I wonder, maybe the WebContext could offer a way to disable text prediction no matter what, and we could set this flag to true in OA, since we know that we are only dealing with login forms in our webviews
[11:07] <oSoMoN> mardy, that sounds like a convoluted workaround to me, but feel free to propose the idea to chrisccoulson
[11:08] <mardy> oSoMoN: yeah, I'm not that sure it's a good idea myself... we should aim for something better
[11:08] <oSoMoN> mardy, maybe a user script to change the type of the input field on the fly, if that’s at all possible
[11:09] <mardy> oSoMoN: could we disable autocomplete for all single line text fields? After all, I can't think of many cases where you have a single line of text and you want autocomplete on that
[11:09] <mardy> oSoMoN: usually websites offer a multi-line, when there is free text to be written in
[11:11] <oSoMoN> mardy, not sure we have access to that information where we’d need it, but if we do that’s something that could be tried
[11:11] <oSoMoN> mardy, in any case I’d start by filing a bug
[11:24] <mardy> rpadovani: could you please file a bug? :-)
[11:44] <nik90> dpm: everytime I make changes in the clock app (no string changes), the pot file keeps changing. Is this expected?
[11:48] <mihir> dpm: thanks , i'll update and push the changes, thanks for the review
[12:08] <rpadovani> mardy, can you ping me when you have 5 minutes for a query, please?
[12:08] <mardy> rpadovani: I do have them now :-)
[12:44] <mihir> zsombi: renato___ ping , after debug and discussion with kunal , from Calendar..We are just taking Event & EventOccureence and i believe Alarm is stored as TODO
[12:45] <mihir> renato___: zsombi so as calendar app is concerned , we are just getting Event & and it's occurrence we are not filtering any ToDos
[12:49] <dpm> nik90, perhaps we need to remove the ALL in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/po/CMakeLists.txt#L8
[12:50] <nik90> dpm: ah ok, I will give that a shot
[12:56] <zsombi> mihir: renato___ then it seems something in EDS is messed
[12:58] <mihir> zsombi: renato___ yes , we don't fetch ToDos  , i just had discussion with kunal and i confirmed
[12:58] <renato___> mihir, there is any problem in the app?
[12:58] <renato___> I am confuse
[12:58] <mihir> renato___: you mean calendar ?
[12:58] <renato___> yes
[12:59] <mihir> renato___: nope i believe we don't face any issues in calendar
[12:59] <renato___> zsombi, what is the problem then?
[12:59] <mihir> calendar behaves as expected , EXCEPT the notification
[13:00] <zsombi> renato___: all I do is I deal with Todos....
[13:00] <renato___> charles, has a fix for the notification alreay
[13:00] <renato___> zsombi, but what is the problem with eds backend?
[13:00] <mihir> renato___: the problem is disable alarm is showing as claendar notification https://launchpadlibrarian.net/183212222/calendarevent.png
[13:00] <mihir> calendar*
[13:00] <zsombi> renato___: ... and they don't even ask for todos...
[13:00] <zsombi> mihir: btw, Todo is also an Event...
[13:01] <renato___> zsombi, but the notification is not part of the app
[13:01] <zsombi> mihir: so be sure that you exclude todos
[13:01] <renato___> zsombi, the notification is the date-time indicator
[13:01] <zsombi> renato___: noone talks about that now
[13:01] <renato___> and charles has a fix for that alreay
[13:01] <mihir> hey kunal
[13:01] <mihir> kunal: ^^
[13:01] <kunal> hi
[13:02] <renato___> sorry guys I am lost here, I do not understand what is wrong
[13:02] <mihir> hey kunal if you missed some previous chat, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8432744/
[13:03] <renato___> I thought that the problem was tht the calendar app was showing the alarms events, but mihir is saying that is not a problem
[13:03] <zsombi> mihir: kunal: so, remember, Todo is also an Event!
[13:03] <kunal> zsombi, I believe it type will be Todo
[13:03] <zsombi> renato___: no, you got it wrong... they show up, but they don't filter for Todos, they folter for Events
[13:04] <kunal> let me confirm
[13:04] <mihir> renato___: nope that is not case, i have mentioned yesterday   , we have to change in (Notification System ) not on calendar-app ,
[13:04] <zsombi> uhh.. I got messed ... we all got messed :D
[13:04] <renato___> the notification system does not use qtorganizer
[13:04] <renato___> it talks direct with eds
[13:06] <kunal> so from calendar app side, we are showing event of type Event and EventOccurence
[13:06] <kunal> and Todo and TodoOccurrence are differnet type
[13:07] <kunal> so  I believe we are safe if Alarm;s are stored as todo and type is Todo
[13:07] <kunal> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/QtOrganizer.ItemType/
[13:10] <mihir> Hmm , so zsombi renato___ from calendar side we don
[13:10] <mihir> don't think there is any change*
[13:10] <renato___> ok I believe charles has the fix for indicator already
[13:11] <zsombi> renato___: mihir: and I'm having the tags fix from Alarms API in staging...
[13:11] <mihir> okay great :) so we all are clear now :D & out of mess heheh
[13:17] <brendand> popey, there's an RTM landing in flight that breaks filemanager
[13:18] <brendand> popey, filemanager is still sending out 'file://' urls
[13:20] <Akiva-Thinkpad> morning all
[13:21] <Akiva-Thinkpad> on the terminal app, does anyone else get "TERM environment variable not set"?
[13:24] <nik90> brendand: popey is on his way to the xda dev con and isn't here today.
[13:24] <Akiva-Thinkpad> or rather, does this error occur on an actual device?
[13:25] <brendand> nik90, were you aware of changes to url-dispatcher that would break file-manager?
[13:25] <brendand> nik90, seems like url-dispatcher is no longer going to accept file:// urls
[13:25] <nik90> brendand: I knew about file:// being removed, but didn't know about it breaking file-manager
[13:25] <brendand> nik90, so file-manager will have to send e.g. video:// music:// and image:// seperately
[13:25] <nik90> brendand: I don't have much contact with the file manager devs, so not sure how to proceed
[13:25] <brendand> nik90, which means it will need to be able to tell what kind of file it is
[13:26] <nik90> dpm or balloons ^^ can you help out here pls
[13:27] <dpm> brendand, would you mind filing a bug against lp:ubuntu-filemanager-app for the devs to see it? They're not on IRC atm
[13:33] <brendand> dpm, just going to double check it's happening in utopic (should be since the new url-dispatcher already landed there)
[13:33] <dpm> ok, cool
[14:11] <brendand> balloons, hey
[14:12] <balloons> brendand, howdy
[14:18] <brendand> balloons, did we pick up some AP failures in filemanager because of the url-dispatcher change?
[14:18] <brendand> balloons, i was checking the dashboard, but sheesh - it seems to be quicker to ask here
[14:19] <brendand> balloons, ok i see there are four failures but doesn't look like any of them are url-dispatcher related
[14:19] <balloons> brendand, there's a pending version of filemanager to release to the dashboard. I saw the ping about the url dispatcher change. This hasn't been accounted for by file manager
[14:19] <brendand> balloons, want me to raise a bug ?
[14:19] <balloons> brendand, yes please
[14:21] <balloons> brendand, filemanager's issues atm (until the fix lands in the store) is with the security implementation
[14:21] <brendand> balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1374474
[14:44] <rpadovani> mardy, here the branch we were talking about: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/multipleAccounts
[14:50] <mardy> rpadovani: OK, I'm building it
[14:50] <rpadovani> thanks
[14:50] <mardy> rpadovani: did you try it on the desktop?
[14:51] <rpadovani> mardy, yap, on desktop you have to add two accounts and disable one
[14:51] <rpadovani> mardy, but also on phone it crashes
[14:53] <mardy> rpadovani: I'll try on the desktop, there debugging is easier
[14:53] <rpadovani> definitely
[14:54] <mardy> rpadovani: it's strange that it crashes when you add the second model, because it appears that you are not even using it
[14:55] <rpadovani> mardy, yes, but if you remove the new one it works. I have absolutely no idea on how debug it
[14:56] <nik90> balloons: feel free to release clock app to the store. It is rdy ;)
[14:56] <mihir> balloons: also Calendar app
[14:56] <mihir> nik90: i observed one small issue in clock settings , the sound header is being cut off
[14:57] <nik90> mihir: you mean the sound slider popup text
[14:57] <mihir> nik90: yup
[14:57] <nik90> mihir: yeah that's a known issue due to the SDK
[14:57] <mihir> nik90: okay
[14:57] <nik90> mihir: I don't have a proper design solution yet to fix it
[14:58] <mihir> nik90: i thought if you leave some margin from top still it shows same ( I don't know so asking this )
[14:58] <balloons> mihir, calendar app should have been released last night.. did you see it?
[14:58] <balloons> I can release again though :-)
[14:58] <balloons> nik90, ack, releases away!
[14:58] <nik90> balloons: thnx :)
[14:59] <nik90> mihir: I could but it creates a weird spacing at the top. It was one of the solutions that I already tried that worked but doesn't look good UI wise.
[15:00] <mihir> balloons: ahh , just checked so yeah i do have updates, let me see i guess it should have all the merges
[15:01] <mihir> nik90: one issue , i was not able to reproduce though, when my phone was idle , the clock app was open , now when i unlocked my phone after few hours , i see time difference in System time (Which is on top) and inside clock app
[15:01] <mihir> like lag of 2 mins
[15:02] <nik90> mihir: which image?
[15:02] <nik90> mihir: clock immediately updates its time when brought from suspend
[15:02] <mihir> nik90: yeah i haven't updated to latest, i see there are some issues with dual boot though
[15:02] <mihir> which is current latest image revision ?
[15:02] <mardy> rpadovani: it doesn't crash here, but I don't see the selection page
[15:02] <nik90> mihir: which channel?
[15:03] <rpadovani> mardy, how many accounts do you have?
[15:03] <nik90> mihir: tbh I don't know since each channel has a different image channel for a particular device
[15:03] <nik90> mihir: for n4, it should be 160 something for devel-proposed
[15:03] <mihir> devel
[15:03] <mihir> i am on 242
[15:03] <nik90> mihir: yeah that's why
[15:03] <nik90> mihir: what lagged? the system time or the clock time?
[15:03] <mardy> rpadovani: two accounts, but one is disabled
[15:04] <rpadovani> this is strange
[15:04] <mardy> rpadovani: I even tried with two enabled accounts, but still no screen (and no crash)
[15:04] <mihir> nik90: the clock time , like system time was 7:44 & clock time was 7:42 , i did try to reproduce but wasn't able to
[15:04] <nik90> mihir: strange
[15:05] <rpadovani> mardy, don't you have a popup menu on top right where there is a button named 'accounts'?
[15:05] <nik90> mihir: try to reproduce it with proper steps and I can try on my side as well
[15:05] <mihir> nik90: still i'll reconfirm if i am able to reproduce it
[15:05] <mihir> nik90: you on dual boot?
[15:05] <nik90> mihir: no
[15:06] <mihir> nik90: okay
[15:07] <mihir> balloons: the calendar doesn't required update in store :)
[15:07] <rpadovani> mardy, another thing I found right now: you have to disable the account before starting the app, if you disable it after there is no crash
[15:07] <mihir> btw one question regarding wi-fi , we can't enter username & password for wifi , is any one have workaround with this ?
[15:07] <balloons> mihir, alrighty then, I'll push a new one :-)
[15:08] <mihir> balloons: it doesn't required
[15:08] <balloons> mihir, nope, indeed rev 476 is in the store
[15:08] <mardy> rpadovani: ah! Got the crash, I though that the accounts page would appear automatically
[15:08] <mihir> balloons: okay great :)
[15:09] <mihir> balloons: my office wi-fi is with LDAP so can't connect my phone with wi-fi  in office :(
[15:09] <rpadovani> mardy, only if you didn't login yet, theorically. I have to check that anyway. I'm happy you had the crash :D
[15:09] <balloons> mihir, ahh ;-)
[15:11] <brendand> mihir, you can connect on your laptop though?
[15:18] <mihir> brendand: yeah i can do that with hotspot
[15:19] <mardy> rpadovani: I need to leave now, I'll check it on Monday
[15:19] <rpadovani> mardy, sure, thanks! Have a nice weekend!
[15:19] <brendand> mihir, you can copy your laptop connection to the phone with phablet-network
[15:19] <mihir> brendand: but legally not allowed to create hotspots :(
[15:20] <mihir> brendand: ohh okay , I'll try that
[16:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dpm, heh I'm always so afraid of changing coding style; I'm glad you gave me a reason to put the spaces in front of the curly bracket
[16:08] <balloons> nik90, clock fails click review due to "desktop_Icon (clock) 'clock-app' specified as icon in .desktop file for app 'clock', which is not available in the click package."
[16:09] <nik90> balloons: yeah it apparently was there since the previous clock upload
[16:09] <balloons> but indeed the icon isn't specified properly
[16:09] <nik90> balloons: I didn't change the icon location though ... I suspect the issue might be in the desktop file
[16:09] <balloons> nik90, where is the icon/
[16:10] <nik90> balloons: in the source, it is inside app/
[16:10] <balloons> ahh I see it
[16:10] <balloons> So, let's fix it
[16:12] <balloons> nik90, I'll make the change for you to review
[16:12] <nik90> I will take a look to see where exactly it may have broken
[16:12] <nik90> oh cool
[16:19] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks for pushing to the store :) guess we now wait for the results of #257
[16:22] <balloons> ahayzen, preliminary runs looked great
[16:22] <ahayzen> balloons, \o/
[16:25] <ahayzen> balloons, is it possible to have jenkins running on two branches for an app? eg music ;)
[16:26] <balloons> ahayzen, it is
[16:26] <ahayzen> balloons, thanks :)
[16:27]  * ahayzen continues planning world domination ...
[16:27] <balloons> nik90, https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-icon-name/+merge/236158
[16:30] <davmor2> balloons: hey dude who works on file manager please?
[16:31] <balloons> davmor2,  CarlosMazieri and ajalkane are the primary devs
[16:34] <balloons> davmor2, why do you ask?
[16:34] <davmor2> balloons: there is a new version of url-dispatcher in a silo that is likely to break opening files in the file manager I just wanted to know if they had a fix ready apparently tedg spoke to them, and if there is a version of filemanager with the fix so we can land the silo with that version of filemanager at the same time
[16:35] <balloons> davmor2, ahh right. brendand filed a bug for it, but I don't believe they know or were prepared for it
[16:36] <davmor2> brendand: ^ so we can land it and have filemanager broken for a day or so or give the team time to fix it and land it monday instead maybe?
[16:37] <balloons> davmor2, they meet weekly on Tuesday, I would suspect we would see something to fix it then
[16:44] <balloons> davmor2, brendand do we know why this change occurred? How are other apps handling it? I suppose most apps know the filetype
[16:44] <brendand> balloons, apparently filemanager is the only outlier
[16:54] <nik90> balloons: hey your MP seems to fix it.
[16:55] <nik90> balloons: one tiny change, set(ICON "${ICON}") -> set(ICON ${ICON})
[16:55] <nik90> balloons: I can then top-approve
[16:57] <balloons> nik90, ack
[16:58] <balloons> pushed
[17:13] <zyga> hi, I have a UbuntuListView with a simple ListModel inside, next to that there is a ListItem.Standard as a delegate. The model has a name and a 'selected' flag, the delegate has a CheckBox which manipulates the model's 'selected' flag value. This all works well BUT when I have a separate button (in the header) that alters the model (it sets all selected flags to true) that doesn't refresh my model's delegates. Am I doing something wrong or it that
[18:28] <balloons> nik90, fyi clock is in the store
[18:28] <nik90> balloons: I was just about to ask, thnx
[18:29] <nik90> zyga: hmm, it should do it automatically
[18:29] <nik90> zyga: actually I do the same thing in the clock app for multiselect view for the alarms page
[18:49] <ahayzen> Is "ContentType.Uknown" on http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Content.ContentType/ a typo?
[19:08] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, ping
[19:09] <kenvandine> hey ahayzen_
[19:09] <kenvandine> oh... that looks like a typo :)
[19:09] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, pdf would be of type "documents" in content-hub right?
[19:09] <ahayzen_> and yeah ^^
[19:09] <kenvandine> yeah
[19:09] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, hmm and if i tried to open a pdf in the browser you would expect it to work?
[19:10] <ahayzen_> ...i must have something wrong in the code...docviewer doesn't appear
[19:10] <kenvandine> oh... the browser probably doesn't map that
[19:10] <ahayzen_> oh...
[19:10] <kenvandine> until we get proper mimetype support
[19:10] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, it has to map them?
[19:11] <kenvandine> the browser does it's own mapping
[19:11] <ahayzen_> ah right
[19:11] <kenvandine> does docviewer provide a content-hub handler?
[19:11] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, i'm adding it ;)
[19:11] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, or trying to test what i've written
[19:12] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, guess i'll have to use your hub-exporter again ;) unless some other app can export a document
[19:14] <kenvandine> not that i know of
[19:14] <kenvandine> awesome... i've been wanting to be able to download pdfs :)
[19:14] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, same
[19:15] <kenvandine> we didn't have any handlers for documents, so that's probably why it's not mapped in the browser
[19:15] <kenvandine> file a bug against the browser to map pdf to ContentType.Documents
[19:15] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, ok will do :)
[19:30] <netlar> Is this support for desktop app dev also?
[19:32] <IbrahimA> on that note, is the html5 sdk also suitable for desktop app dev?
[19:33] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, hmm ok i set my custom hub-exporter to documents and i only see the pdfjsviewer app...which means that webbrowser isn't detecting it as we said but also that the docview code i've done hasn't worked lol
[19:40] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, i had missed the .json in the cmake ;) lol
[20:09] <ahayzen_> mhall119, ping
[20:15] <balloons> ahayzen_, mhall119 isn't about today
[20:15] <ahayzen_> balloons, ah thanks
[20:16] <balloons> happy friday to you sir
[20:16] <ahayzen_> yey friday \o/
[20:36] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, when files are imported into the docviewer would you expect it to move the files somewhere or just leave them in ~/.cache/com.ubuntu.docviewer/HubIncoming ?
[20:40] <kenvandine> ahayzen_, move them
[20:40] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, where to?
[20:41] <kenvandine> anywhere the docviewer wants
[20:41] <kenvandine> the HubIncoming will get cleaned
[20:43] <ahayzen_> kenvandine, ok :) loads of other stuff needs rewriting within the app lol mhall119 started doing content-hub before so i was gonna talk to him about some of the refactors he did
[20:55] <mivoligo> mzanetti: any chance you're here?
[20:58] <mzanetti> mivoligo: hi
[21:04] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I put a spec for a difficulty selector in the folder
[21:04]  * mzanetti looking
[21:04] <mivoligo> mzanetti: let me know if it is clear
[21:05] <mzanetti> mivoligo: just fyi, there is a notion of Grid Units (gu) in ubuntu
[21:05] <mzanetti> we might want to stick with that instead of inventing bus :)
[21:06] <mzanetti> how much is 1 bu supposed to be?
[21:06] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I know but here's for gettting proportion to the background right
[21:06] <mivoligo> mzanetti: 10px here but it might change with the interface
[21:07] <mzanetti> mivoligo: so on your desktop 1 GU would be 8px
[21:07] <mzanetti> ok... no worries. I can work with this
[21:07] <mivoligo> :)
[21:08] <mzanetti> looks clear enough
[21:08] <mivoligo> mzanetti: vertically all the elements are centered with the background
[21:09] <mzanetti> and you'll upload the background then as svg?
[21:10] <mivoligo> yes
[21:10] <mivoligo> but there's blur used, so you have to convert it to png
[21:11] <mzanetti> we're still a bit messy when it comes to game artwork
[21:11] <mzanetti> a mix of svg and png, random sizes
[21:12] <mzanetti> probably we should try to clean that up a bit too.
[21:12] <mzanetti> we could move that stuff into some data dir too and export pngs using the script
[21:14] <mzanetti> mivoligo: ah btw. not sure if you know. but you can now also pass a number to the setupdata script
[21:14] <mzanetti> for example: ./setupdata.py 128
[21:14] <mivoligo> what it does?
[21:14] <mzanetti> then everything will be exported with a basesize of 128 instead of 256
[21:14] <mivoligo> nice :)
[21:14] <mzanetti> improves the situation quite a bit on the phones
[21:14] <mzanetti> whole level pack is only 4.1MB with that :)
[21:15] <mivoligo> mzanetti: btw, did you get any more feedback about the game last night?
[21:16] <mzanetti> no...
[21:16] <mzanetti> I think you've seen it all
[21:17] <mivoligo> last thing I saw was nik90 problems :)
[21:18] <nik90> mivoligo, mzanetti: That issue was a fault in my systems...the game works great through the command line.
[21:18] <nik90> mivoligo: well done with the graphical assets :-)
[21:19] <mivoligo> nik90: thanks :)
[21:20] <nik90> mzanetti: adding towers is a bit clunky...it would be nice if it could be done in 1 step which is to click on the tower and it is chosen and placed on the tile. At the moment, I need to click on the tower and then press the add button.
[21:21] <nik90> mzanetti: as a result, by the time I add a tower I have lost precious seconds thereby missing killing robots during that time :)
[21:21] <mivoligo> nik90: it was my idea
[21:21] <nik90> mivoligo: the add button?
[21:21] <mivoligo> nik90: yes
[21:21] <mzanetti> yeah. ux design is mivoligo too
[21:22] <nik90> mivoligo: I can understand the need for other options like tower upgrade, sell towers etc.
[21:22] <nik90> mivoligo: but if a tile is empty, and I click on it and then on the tower it should just add it IMO.
[21:24] <mivoligo> nik90: in my view the add button is like confirmation, that the player really wants to add this tower
[21:24] <zyga> nik90: I think I found a bug in the SDK
[21:24] <nik90> mivoligo: ack.
[21:24] <zyga> nik90: see this G+ post for details:
[21:24] <nik90> zyga: yup read the post :)
[21:25] <nik90> zyga: sdk devs usually appreciate a sample app to reproduce the bug. I will also see if I can reproduce it on my end.
[21:25] <zyga> nik90: I will file a proper bug but I'm too tired today
[21:25] <nik90> zyga: I figured..I didnt mean now
[21:26] <mivoligo> mzanetti: should I create a brunch to add that svg file? Or just put into drive folder?
[21:26] <nik90> I was just relaxing and writing a blog post about LXC containers for ubuntu touch apps
[21:26]  * nik90 goes back to it
[21:26] <zyga> nik90: to reproduce just do UbuntuListView + a ListModel + a ListItem.Standard + CheckBox, add two actions to select/deselect all flags in the model and click on the checkboxes
[21:26] <zyga> nik90: everything clicked at least once starts to ignore model changes
[21:26] <mzanetti> mivoligo: you can put it directly into the right place, yes
[21:27] <nik90> zyga: did you use a control? as in control: checkbox {} ?
[21:27] <zyga> nik90: yes
[21:27] <zyga> nik90: the code is ...
[21:27] <mivoligo> mzanetti: app/graphics/ I guess?
[21:27] <mzanetti> yep
[21:27] <mivoligo> ok
[21:28] <zyga> nik90: http://git.zygoon.pl/gitweb/?p=checkbox.git;a=blob;f=checkbox-touch/components/SelectionPage.qml;h=337d2ec5e1a88a8290bde556ff1848196e503861;hb=refs/heads/launchpad/bootstrap#l80
[21:28] <zyga> nik90: (I hope the URL works, I cannot check it directly on my LAN)
[21:28] <nik90> zyga: erm 404 Not Found
[21:28] <zyga> sigh :)
[21:29] <nik90> :P
[21:29] <zyga> nik90: pi.zygoon.pl/gitweb?
[21:29] <zyga> nik90: does that work?>
[21:29] <nik90> yes that works
[21:29] <zyga> nik90: http://pi.zygoon.pl/gitweb/?p=checkbox.git;a=blob;f=checkbox-touch/components/SelectionPage.qml;h=337d2ec5e1a88a8290bde556ff1848196e503861;hb=refs/heads/launchpad/bootstrap#l80
[21:30] <nik90> yup that works now
[21:30]  * nik90 doesn't see how the url changed ;P
[21:30] <zyga> nik90: git. vs .pi
[21:30] <nik90> ah yes
[21:30] <zyga> nik90: .git is new, probably not propagated via DNS yet
[21:31] <nik90> zyga: curious, why do you use control: AbstractButton{} instead of control: Checkbox{} directly?
[21:31] <nik90> considering you do style: Theme.createStyleComponent("CheckBoxStyle.qml", checkBox)
[21:31] <zyga> nik90: exactly as the comment says
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: because the only effective difference between that code and CheckBox
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: is this:
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: onTriggered: checked = !checked
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: that erases the property binding, it doesn't write through the binding
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: my checkboxes are never intended to store any state, just reflect state from the model
[21:32] <zyga> nik90: and the model is the only "copy" of the state that must exist
[21:33] <mivoligo> mzanetti: ok, I sent a merge request
[21:33] <zyga> nik90: this makes checkboxes synchronize to model changes made outside of onTriggered/onClicked
[21:33] <mzanetti> mivoligo: ok cool. not really working on the game today. but I guess there will be an hour or two during the weekend
[21:34] <mivoligo> mzanetti: I'll try to finish the rest of the welcome screen over the weekend too
[21:34] <mzanetti> nice. we're getting close :)
[21:34] <mivoligo> :)
[21:35] <mivoligo> mzanetti: ok, I wont bother you anymore tonight :)
[21:35] <mzanetti> no problem at all
[21:35] <nik90> zyga: ok, so the issue you have with checkbox is that when you change the model value directly, then it doesn't reflect in the switch
[21:35] <zyga> nik90: yes
[21:36] <zyga> nik90: after the first click
[21:36] <zyga> nik90: on the checkbox
[21:36] <zyga> nik90: it does work before that event
[21:36] <mivoligo> mzanetti: nik90: see you around :)
[21:36] <nik90> mivoligo: gnite. enjoy your weekend
[21:36] <nik90> zyga: ack
[21:36] <mzanetti> o/
[21:36] <mivoligo> :)
[21:36] <nik90> zyga: that might be a sdk bug yes
[21:39] <zyga> bzoltan: ^^
[22:41] <vitimiti> hi
[23:19] <popey> kenvandine: happy birthday!
[23:20] <Akiva-Thinkpad> kenvandine, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1VcgWvhyV0
[23:30] <popey> Akiva-Thinkpad: i know you were looking at file manager UI...
[23:30] <Akiva-Thinkpad> popey, yah
[23:31] <popey> do you have a device?
[23:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> the fellow who was working on that I don't think got back to me
[23:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> unfortunately not
[23:31] <popey> hmm
[23:31] <popey> I will file a bug and post screenshots tomorrow
[23:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> popey, but some fellow already started moving the contents to the header
[23:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> he said he'd upload the branch
[23:31] <popey> the content-hub integration looks messy
[23:31] <popey> buttons which are underneath the bottom toolbar
[23:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ohhh
[23:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> popey, gander we'd like to get this done before rtm?
[23:32]  * Akiva-Thinkpad double checks if he got back to me...
[23:32] <popey> well, i will file a bug and lets see
[23:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1373346
[23:33] <popey> we had a bit of a bug identifying session in the pub tonight ☻
[23:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah; nice
[23:33] <popey> that bug doesn't cover the content hub use case
[23:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sorry I feel stupid asking this, but what is the content hub exactly?
[23:35] <popey> its the system that lets one app pass data to another securely
[23:35] <popey> e.g. you're in the messaging app and you want to send a photo to someone over mms
[23:35] <popey> so you press the camera button in messaging app, it asks which app you want to get data from
[23:36] <popey> you could choose camera and take a picture
[23:36] <popey> you could choose gallery and select an already-taken photo
[23:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah, thanks for explaining that.
[23:36] <popey> or you could choose file manager and choose a file (picture)
[23:36] <popey> problem is the buttons are "under" the bottom toolbar
[23:36] <popey> I'll file a bug ☻
[23:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> heh
[23:37] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad, Go! go
[23:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sounds like rtm stuff
[23:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, power rangers?
[23:37] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad, Go language but that is a great one!
[23:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm going to work on a terminal advanced setting for setting the PS1 tonight
[23:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I think slimming the PS1, or putting it on a line above is actually really useful for a phone terminal
[23:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> PS1=”\n\[\e[0;36m\]┌─[\[\e[0m\]\[\e[1;33m\]\u\[\e[0m\]\[\e[1;36m\] @ \[\e[0m\]\[\e[1;33m\]\h\[\e[0m\]\[\e[0;36m\]]─[\[\e[0m\]\[\e[1;34m\]\w\[\e[0m\]\[\e[0;36m\]]\[\e[0;36m\]─[\[\e[0m\]\[\e[0;31m\]\!\[\e[0m\]\[\e[0;36m\]]\[\e[0m\]\n\[\e[0;36m\]└─[\[\e[0m\]\[\e[1;37m\]\$\[\e[0m\]\[\e[0;36m\]]› \[\e[0m\]”
[23:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> actually ignore that
[23:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I copied it off a site
[23:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and.... it might not be nsfw


[02:22] <bryceh> RAOF, wow, Intel's getting flamed hard for 8xx on phoronix
[02:22] <bryceh> (at least, in the comments)
[02:25] <ScottK> Does Phoronix ever say anything nice about anyone in the comments?
[02:26] <ScottK> Last thread I heard about it was Intel was wonderful and Kwin was just asking too much.
[02:27] <bryceh> tis true, every comment there is a rant against something or other
[02:39] <nigelb> someone ranting about intel 8xx? I should join in
[02:54] <bjsnider> ranting about it isn't going to solve anything
[04:34] <RAOF> Who wants to sponsor an xserver upload!  Fun for one and all!
[04:36] <RAOF> Gah.  I don't think Intel are particularly culpable for i8xx.  Those cards are a decade old, don't work properly in Windows Vista (IIRC), etc.  We have *better* i8xx support than recent windows!
[04:37] <ajmitch_> RAOF: I'd be more impressied if you supported my old i740 card properly, with nice shiny 3d :)
[04:37] <RAOF> ajmitch_: We do!
[04:37] <ajmitch_> with some 3d support?
[04:37] <RAOF> It's just that your *hardware* doesn't support shiny 3D :P
[04:37] <ScottK> My 865 box is only less than 5 years old.
[04:37] <ajmitch_> RAOF: oh it supported some 3D, I think
[04:37] <ajmitch_> I just don't have a motherboard to put it in
[04:38] <RAOF> ajmitch_: Yeah, but you'd be better of with a software rasteriser in any modern system.
[04:38] <ajmitch_> undoubtably
[04:38] <ScottK> ajmitch_ should sponsor it since he needs a break from the last task I gave him.
[04:38] <RAOF> ScottK: Oh, I didn't know you could get 865 cards that recently.
[04:38] <ajmitch_> I look forward to the day when I can replace fglrx with a free driver & get the same features & performance
[04:39] <ScottK> RAOF: Actually I think it's a little over 5 years now that I think about it again.
[04:39] <RAOF> ajmitch_: That'll take a while, although Natty might get you the same features.
[04:39] <ScottK> IIRC it was early 2005.
[04:40] <RAOF> The 855 and 845 are older, though probably not by _that_ much.  I stand corrected.
[04:40] <ajmitch_> RAOF: it's a relatively modern ati chipset in the laptop, the other one has i915
[04:41] <RAOF> We'll almost certainly be switching to r300g for Natty, supporting all the GLL
[04:41] <ScottK> Win2K works with it very nicely.
[04:41] <ajmitch_> RAOF: which ati chips would that support?
[04:41] <RAOF> GLSL, GL 2.x, and suchlike fun.
[04:41] <ScottK> RAOF: How goes the Mesa FFe?  I didn't see much in the way of additional test results recently.
[04:41] <RAOF> r300-r500.  I think that's up to Radeon 2xxx.
[04:42] <ajmitch_> ah
[04:42]  * ajmitch_ has a mobility radeon hd 4650, I think that's r600?
[04:42] <ajmitch_> hard to keep track of them these days :)
[04:42] <RAOF> That's likely to be r700, I thinke.
[04:43] <ajmitch_> looks lik you're right
[04:44] <RAOF> I don't think anyone's waiting on me for more testing on the mesa FFe?  The next activity I expected was “go ahead”, followed by an upload.
[04:44] <ScottK> Oh.
[04:46] <RAOF> I was also expecting to have a 7.9 release branch open up upstream, but that hasn't happened yet.
[04:47] <ScottK> RAOF: You said "I'll test swrast on my nouveau system" in the bug, but didn't report results yet.
[04:47] <RAOF> Ah.
[04:47] <RAOF> Ok.
[04:49] <RAOF> Done.
[05:25]  * ScottK notes to RAOF that he's approved and goes to bed.
[05:41] <Sarvatt> oh sorry about that, I thought I replied on the FFe saying nouveau with and without swrast is what I've been testing mostly with no problems. my wife's been using it and she's good at complaining about broken things :)
[05:42] <Sarvatt> RAOF: release branch tomorrow morning PST
[05:43] <Sarvatt> idr said "I will do this on the morning (US pacific time) of 9/14", there's a release bug tracker at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30124
[05:43] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 30124 in Mesa core "Mesa 7.9 release tracker" [Normal,New]
[05:45] <Sarvatt> only one relevant bug on there - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27831
[05:45] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 27831 in Drivers/DRI/i965 "[regression] DynamicBranching3 does not render correctly" [Normal,Assigned]
[05:49] <Sarvatt> better off getting it in now and updating later though if there's a sponsor around, I can try to find one in the morning and/or pull in the release branch if not
[05:51] <RAOF> So, before I board this plane, the two sponsorship opportunities are: http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xorg-server_1.9.0-0ubuntu6.dsc & http://cooperteam.net/Packages/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.2.2-2ubuntu4.dsc
[05:51] <Sarvatt> ohh, XDS already?
[05:51] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Would you like to shepherd the mesa upload now that the FFe has been granted?
[05:52] <RAOF> Yup.
[05:52] <RAOF> Australia is a long way from *everywhere*, so….
[13:51] <ScottK> Sarvatt: Do you have anything ready for upload for mesa?
[14:03] <Sarvatt> ScottK: just woke up, building it now because RAOF made some changelog changes vs the one I had prepared
[14:04] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/mesa/
[14:09] <ScottK> Looking.
[14:09] <Sarvatt> have it building on that server atm and will put the build log in that directory when its done
[14:14] <ScottK> Sarvatt: Why are you renaming libegl1-mesa-drivers-x11 to libegl1-mesa-drivers?  That means it will have to go through binary New?
[14:15] <Sarvatt> let me find where RAOF did that for the rationale, I'm not sure exactly
[14:15] <ScottK> Also did anyone check if the dropped symbols are used by anything?
[14:21] <tball> Hi
[14:22] <tball> Anyone know if mesa 7.9 make it into the final version of maverick?
[14:22] <tball> makes*
[14:23] <Sarvatt> the only users of openvg and egl were experimental arm packages, the dropped symbols in libopenvg1 don't exist in the proprietary drivers for all of those arm platforms because they split it off into a separate libOpenVGU lib there
[14:23] <Sarvatt> i'm not sure if symbols were dropped in EGL since RAOF updated that, need to go over the history and look
[14:30] <Sarvatt> yes, all of the removed symbols were ones that should have been hidden in the first place, checked libgles1 libgles2 and libopenvg1that had changes. the EGL split was because they used to ship two different drivers for x11 or kms EGL backends but they are now all shipped as a single one
[14:31] <Sarvatt> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/lib/mesa.git;a=commit;h=598176dc22273ef4d3270580338d3eb414d2db27
[14:43] <Sarvatt> alf__: do you know anything about the rdepends on libegl1-mesa-drivers-x11 in linaro? afaik asac knows about the new mesa 7.9 packages, I'm not sure if RAOF discussed it with you guys?
[14:48] <alf__> Sarvatt: at the moment, we just really need libegl1-mesa and the swrast driver. We don't have a direct dependency to libegl1-mesa-drivers-x11.
[14:48] <Sarvatt> yeah thats what I thought but wasn't positive, thanks
[14:49] <Sarvatt> alf__: were you aware of the mesa 7.9 FFe? egl/gles/vg has changed quite a bit in it
[14:50] <alf__> Sarvatt: You mean the on the packaging guide or in general?
[14:50] <alf__> Sarvatt: s/guide/side/
[14:51] <Sarvatt> I was wondering if you guys had tested it at all and had any problems
[14:53] <ScottK> Sarvatt: The binary package renames isn't mentioned in debian/changelog (that I saw).  Also there is some redunancy between your entries and RAOF's that should be cleaned up.
[14:53] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I'm wondering if we really need to do the package rename or if than can wait until Natty.
[14:56] <alf__> Sarvatt: I haven't tested it yet, I don't think asac has tested it either
[14:56] <alf__> Sarvatt: I am not sure about asac, though
[14:57] <Sarvatt> the package rename looks necessary from what I can see, it only builds a single driver that has both the x11 and KMS backends built into it, not sure shipping that in libegl1-mesa-dri-x11 makes sense? we could stuff it in both but the x11 backend will be the default in both
[14:58] <ScottK> OK.  Please clarify in debian/changelog what's going on.
[14:58] <Sarvatt> ScottK: thanks, you're right that this changelog is silly, cleaning things up now
[14:59] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:11] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/merges/mesa/ - anything missing from that changelog?
[15:14] <Sarvatt> RAOF did the egl change so I added it to his section
[15:17] <Sarvatt> went through the git history for debian/ and there isn't really anything else user visible that makes sense in the changelog except maybe mentioning the changes in libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, but we dont really want people installing that package anyway because its unsupported :)
[15:19] <Sarvatt> ack, speaking of which, that needs to be in universe
[15:20] <Sarvatt> it's completely unsupported by upstream
[15:40] <Sarvatt> filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/638097 for the demotion request
[15:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 638097 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Universe binary demotion request for libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[15:40]  * Sarvatt waits for bryceh's script to mark it incomplete because there's no lspci attached
[15:41] <jcristau> heh
[16:14] <ScottK> Sarvatt: Looks much better.  Thanks.
[17:19] <ScottK> Sarvatt and RAOF: Mesa uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.
[17:19] <Sarvatt> thank you so much for all of the help with it ScottK!
[17:19] <ScottK> Sarvatt: LP closing bugs in changelog is broken, so you'll still need to mark all those bugs fixed by hand.
[17:20]  * Sarvatt nods
[18:18] <Sarvatt> In conjunction with the release of the E620 (600 MHz. processing speed) / E640 (1.0 GHz.) / E660 (1.3 GHz.) / E680 (1.6 GHz.) devices and their enhanced temperature (-40° to +85° C) counterparts (E620T, E640T, E660T, E680T), Intel has also concurrently announced the release of a new embedded graphics driver called Intel® EMGD which stand for Intel® Embedded Media and Graphics Driver.
[18:18] <Sarvatt> woohoo? wonder if it supposed > xserver 1.6 now
[18:18] <Sarvatt> supports rather
[18:19] <Sarvatt> or psb in general for that matter
[18:20] <Sarvatt>  Intel® EMGD is NOT a follow-on/next generation driver to IEGD since both drivers support different chipsets
[18:20] <Sarvatt> oh that answers that
[18:41] <Sarvatt> time to close out all these mesa bugs
[18:53] <bryceh> ugh, another intel driver?  is it open or closed?
[18:54] <Sarvatt> closed!
[18:55] <bryceh> :-(
[19:02] <Sarvatt> The Intel® Embedded Media and Graphics Driver and Video BIOS support the following Linux operating systems and APIs:
[19:02] <Sarvatt> Fedora* 11 (Timesys kernel 2.6.29, X.server 1.6 DRI2)
[19:02] <Sarvatt> MeeGo 1.0 IVI Linux (kernel <IP_ADDRESS>, X.server 1.8.0)
[19:03] <Sarvatt> skipped lucid/squeeze xserver video abi completely, yay
[19:05] <Sarvatt> oh wait
[19:05] <Sarvatt> EMGD does work with PSB
[19:06] <Sarvatt> they just dropped all the other intel chipsets noone used IEGD for anyway
[19:06] <Sarvatt> Intel® EMGD 1.0 supports these Intel® Atom™ processor- based platforms:
[19:06] <Sarvatt> Intel® Tunnel Creek system-on-a-chip (SoC). Tunnel Creek integrates an Intel® Atom™ processor core + GPU + other i/o functions.
[19:06] <Sarvatt> Intel® Atom™ processor Z5xx series (with Intel® System Controller Hub US15W/US15WP/WPT Chipset)
[19:06] <Sarvatt> so lucid + xorg-edgers + EMGD will work on PSB
[19:56] <Sarvatt> nautilus sure picked a good time to go belly up - (nautilus:30209): Unique-DBus-WARNING **: Error while sending message: No such interface `org.gtk.UniqueApp' on object at path /Factory
[20:07] <seb128> Sarvatt, restart your session or nautilus
[20:07] <seb128> it's just that the running instance has issue with the installed one
[20:07] <seb128> it's a maverick to maverick issue
[20:07] <seb128> ie will not happen to users running lucid and upgrading
[20:44] <vish> Sarvatt:  seems the new mesa does the same for all ATI in Unity.. its a white screen for me as well :(
[20:46] <Sarvatt> what did you get before?
[20:46] <Sarvatt> also, :(
[20:48] <Sarvatt> multiple people said it was fixed for them during testing, what GPU are you on again?
[20:48] <vish> Sarvatt: well , earlier , it was unity doing a repeated reload , but with mesa 7.9 its just a constant white page
[20:49] <Sarvatt> it's certainly working fine now on r600+ when it wasn't before
[20:49] <vish> and mutter needs to be run with  VBLANK , else even mutter wont work..
[20:50] <vish> i mean CLUTTER_VBLANK=none
[20:50] <Sarvatt> CLUTTER_VBLANK=none?
[20:50] <vish> :)
[20:50] <Sarvatt> i need that on intel to use unity too :)
[20:51] <Sarvatt> (otherwise its a white screen)
[20:51] <Sarvatt> vish: did I ask you to try changing driconf options?
[20:51] <vish> on ATI?
[20:51] <Sarvatt> yeah
[20:52] <vish> havent tried it.. will try now..
[20:52] <Sarvatt> one sec, cant actually change the option i'm gonna ask via driconf
[20:52] <vish> yeah.!
[20:52] <vish> you made me do this the last time too ;p
[20:52] <Sarvatt> oh, put something in ~/.drirc?
[20:53] <Sarvatt> http://pastebin.com/t8nND0bV
[20:53] <vish> no , i think i downloaded the driconf and tried some option you wanted me to change , but it turned out to be for intel..
[20:53] <Sarvatt> try that as ~/.drirc
[20:54] <Sarvatt> ohhh man that was a *long* time ago!
[20:54] <vish> :)
[20:54] <Sarvatt> surprised you remember that :)
[20:54] <Sarvatt> that was texture tiling when they turned it on by default on intel in mesa 7.7 I think
[20:56] <Sarvatt> anyway gotta put that in ~/.drirc manually because you cant edit the dri2 driver options in driconf, they are listed for the actual driver and vblank_mode doesn't do anything there
[20:57] <vish> ok.. in a few ,  making a new daily live...
[21:19] <vish>  http://pastebin.com/t8nND0bV
[21:28] <vish_> was mesa 7.9 released or is it still in sarvatt's ppa?
[21:32] <vish_> oh if its still building in other architectures it wont be available as an update?
[21:49] <vish_> Sarvatt: nope.. that .drirc dint help :(  mutter doesnt work..  but if i start mutter with $CLUTTER_VBLANK=none mutter --replace        mutter works
[21:50] <vish_> this is on an RV515
[21:51] <Sarvatt> white screen with mutter too?
[21:51] <Sarvatt> anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[21:52] <vish_> mutter is not white , its just a background with a few missing windows
[21:56] <vish_> Sarvatt: nope , nothing in .xsession-errors  after i launch mutter --replace
[21:57] <vish_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/493840/  after mutter --replace
[21:58] <vish_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/493839/  before
[22:05] <Sarvatt> darnit, vish_ do you have your bug # handy about this?
[22:05] <Sarvatt> <Sarvatt> darnit, vish_ do you have your bug # handy about this?
[22:07] <vish> Sarvatt: bug 616997 :)
[22:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 616997 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "[RV515] Unity keeps reloading with a white background (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 155)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616997
[22:07] <vish> Sarvatt: btw, i logged in twice ;)
[22:07] <vish_> o/
[22:23] <Sarvatt> vish: so you still get this? (unity:9610): Clutk-WARNING **: [CheckGLError] GL_INVALID_VALUE error in File ./ctk-render-target.c at line: 286
[22:23] <Sarvatt> (unity:9610): Clutk-WARNING **: [CheckGLError] OpenGL Error 1281 in File ./ctk-render-target.c at line: 286
[22:24] <vish> oh.. i need to log in again into unity and check! :D
[22:25] <Sarvatt> sorry :( I'm pretty sure you do, you said you did with the PPA one
[22:25] <vish> yeah , got it with the ppa too..
[22:26] <Sarvatt> MESA_EXTENSION_OVERRIDE=-GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two unity doesn't crash with that same error for me anymore on intel, weird
[22:26] <Sarvatt> its all grey though
[22:28] <Sarvatt> second try using MESA_EXTENSION_OVERRIDE=-GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two unity -p did it
[22:28] <vish_> :D
[22:29] <Sarvatt> are you using -p when you check it?
[22:30] <Sarvatt> just curious cus without -p its different
[22:31] <vish_> oh no.. for unity i just login into a unity session and its a white screen..
[22:31] <vish_> thso i havent tried with -p
[22:32] <vish_> so*
[22:32] <Sarvatt> i really am clueless about all of this clutk stuff, but it seems like things should be checking for NPOT support before using it at least..
[22:34] <vish> the other reporter for the ATI HD also mentioned the same issue..
[22:34] <vish> white screen.
[22:36] <vish> bugs 599741
[22:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 599741 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Major rendering issues using ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 (affects: 8) (dups: 1) (heat: 50)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599741
[22:37] <vish> the mesa task was closed due to new 7.9 upload but the reporter mentions same white screen..
[22:38] <Sarvatt> he isn't the original reporter
[22:38] <vish> oh! then maybe he is having my issue then :p
[22:38] <Sarvatt> he's got a hd3200, not positive but i think that has a r500 based 3d engine?
[22:40] <Sarvatt> nope looks like its really an r600+
[22:49] <Sarvatt> vish: you've really got me stumped here
[22:49] <vish> :s
[22:51] <vish> odd was that the .drirc dint work?  but had to use CLUTTER_BLANK while launching mutter..
[23:47] <Dink> Hello I just posted, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/638496 I am not sure if its X or kernel related.
[23:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 638496 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i945GME] invalid framebuffer id; AOD250 netbook (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[23:48] <Sarvatt> gnome-terminal is causing that?
[23:49] <Dink> That has been the only way for me to actually freeze everything
[23:50] <Dink> without things are slower and windows are locked, as in I can't click the other application.
[23:51] <Dink> sometimes works if I alt-tab to the other windows/apps when the window/app is locked.
[23:51] <Sarvatt> that error is pretty harmless and happens when someone shuts down or X restarts because of the plymouth junk, maybe X is actually crashing
[23:51] <Sarvatt> oh boy, our friend 101_copy-fb.patch again in x-x-v-intel?
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.332] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x80e83bb]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 1: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x5da8d) [0x80a5a8d]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 2: (vdso) (__kernel_rt_sigreturn+0x0) [0x12140c]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 3: /usr/bin/X (FreeClientResources+0xed) [0x808f04d]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 4: /usr/bin/X (FreeAllResources+0x60) [0x808f120]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 5: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a5e6) [0x80625e6]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 6: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xe7) [0x93cce7]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.333] 7: /usr/bin/X (0x8048000+0x1a191) [0x8062191]
[23:52] <Sarvatt> [116756.334] Segmentation fault at address 0x4
[23:52] <Dink> so I guess that is when I do the kill -hup mutter it creates that message
[23:53] <Sarvatt> yeah and that backtrace is from the copy-fb patch, probably not related to the actual problem either
[23:54] <Dink> hmm so what can I run when it freezes to grab logs etc ?
[23:54] <Dink> I am sure I can reproduce it.. the windows are "locking" now
[23:55] <Dink> I will have to do it in vt1 since my screen completely locks up
[23:56] <Dink> I think it started happening during the beta updates phase
[23:56] <Dink> or maybe right after that
[23:58] <Sarvatt> Dink: does it only happen with compiz enabled?
[23:59] <Dink> umm not sure how to enable/disable that.. running this on a netbook right now
[23:59] <Sarvatt> system - preferences - appearance - desktop effects, set to none to disable