[12:00] <frank23> PsyberOne: its equivalent to a reinstall
[12:00] <clem_yeats> Maxus : some kind of Samba client..
[12:00] <Seveas> PsyberOne, impossible
[12:00] <oklinux> I was using debian before using ubuntu my hd crashed on me.
[12:00] <wweasel> Could someone please help me with setting up wpasupplicant? I am following the instructions on a HOWTO but am running into trouble.
[12:00] <PsyberOne> i was afraid of that
[12:00] <brenner> smellican, oklinux: debian-based
[12:00] <MaXuS> ow i was looking in the filebrowser at connect to server.
[12:00] <kameron> !tell firstent about xgl
[12:00] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, malone is a component of launchpad
[12:00] <wweasel> I get the error message "Failed to read configuration file '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'." even though I have made that configuration file.
[12:00] <oklinux> brenner debain-base ?
[12:01] <dispanser> wweasel: do you have read permissions on that file?
[12:01] <smellican> it's debian :P
[12:01] <clem_yeats> wweasel : is there sufficient permissions ?
[12:01] <loki> having issues getting an ms optical wireless mouse working properly (it moves, but it constantly brings up the right-click menu in fluxbox and the buttons are dodgey). The keyboard works fine though? I've tried all the protocols in xorg.conf (now using ImPS/2). would this be an X thing or a kernel thing?
[12:01] <robertj> how do you turn an .mp4 into a video dvd?
[12:02] <brenner> smellican: tell that to the guy who tried to dist-upgrade from sarge to breezy
[12:02] <smellican> LOL
[12:02] <clem_yeats> lol
[12:02] <smellican> brenner, it uses apt-get...it's debian for all intents and purposes :P
[12:03] <smellican> oklinux said it best:  easier debian
[12:03] <wweasel> dispanser, no I didn't. It was root only. I figured it was OK because I was accessing it using sudo, but from a root terminal it works now.
[12:03] <clem_yeats> I wouldn't said easier... I'd say preconfigured, ready to use Debian.
[12:03] <wweasel> dispanser, how would I change the permissions on it from a terminal?
[12:03] <Sanne> oklinux, this explains it nicely: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:03] <frank23> robertj: there is a program called   tovid  that does that.  takes any format and converts to dvd
[12:04] <Travis_> what package do I need to make apache2 have SSL? so like https://?????????
[12:04] <dispanser> wweasel: chmod +r <filename>
[12:04] <Makaraki> can I get
[12:04] <dispanser> this sets the read permission (for yourself)
[12:04] <Seveas> Travis_, libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:04] <fdsfsdf> I ned some help : My internet connection won't work at all even tho my cards are detected :(
[12:04] <Makaraki> frank_: are you there?
[12:04] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah
[12:04] <Travis_> thanks
[12:04] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i install and DL gksudo ?
[12:04] <Wizz_kidd> gk
[12:04] <robertj> frank23:  is that packaged?
[12:05] <Makaraki> I don't know why they log me out....
[12:05] <Travis_> root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:05] <Travis_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:05] <Travis_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:05] <Travis_> E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:05] <nilew> is it just me that has problems with rt2500 on my wifi?
[12:05] <frank23> robertj: no. google for it
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> my packamager isnt working casue its not there
[12:05] <robertj> http://tovid.berlios.de/
[12:05] <frank23> Makaraki: its because you pasted a bunch of lines
[12:05] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, if apt-get install ubuntu-desktop didn't install it, you have bigger problems
[12:05] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, in which case you'd better simply reinstall
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> well the apt install thing
[12:05] <dispanser> wweasel: but you will probably want to do: chmod o+r because you want to allow read permissions for other users (that's what the 'o' is for)
[12:05] <robertj> frank23: it does hvae one!
[12:05] <Makaraki> frank_:I tried a lot of time to join but ubuntu doesn't allow me
[12:05] <gilesw> how do i change the default app to run files?
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> tried to install from the CD
[12:05] <gilesw> i want to use vlc for videos
[12:05] <gilesw> not totem
[12:05] <Wizz_kidd> and i guess those sectors of the CD is corrupted
[12:06] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i dl and install it form the internet ?
[12:06] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah you were banned for a while
[12:06] <Makaraki> frank_: I think there are a special way to give you the error report with a special paste
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell Makaraki pastebin
[12:06] <Seveas> !tell Makaraki about pastebin
[12:06] <robertj> frank23: but thanks
[12:06] <Wizz_kidd> Seveas, kknow what i mean ?
[12:06] <frank23> robertj: np
[12:07] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, remove the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:07] <Makaraki> so many things for a newbie but I wil tri
[12:07] <Travis_> Seveas what other package could it be?
[12:07] <Travis_> root@snoopy:~# apt-get install libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:07] <Travis_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:07] <Travis_> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:07] <Travis_> E: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-ssl
[12:07] <Seveas> Travis_, do NOT paste in here
[12:08] <Travis_> k
[12:08] <Wizz_kidd> can i do a apt from the internet ?
[12:08] <brenner> gilesw: right-click media file>properties>open-with tab
[12:08] <frank23> Makaraki: give me the pastebin link when you you paste the errors there
[12:09] <Makaraki> ok
[12:09] <redguy> Wizz_kidd: sure you can
[12:09] <Seveas> Wizz_kidd, yes
[12:09] <mivecz> update  manager  and  synaptic  crash  how i  resolve  these provlem
[12:09] <Makaraki> frank23: ok
[12:09] <MaXuS> is there a package for hdtv codec ?
[12:09] <ubtnwb> hi
[12:09] <b_e_n_z> any xen (http://xen.sf.net) package for ubuntu?
[12:10] <brenner> mivecz: run them in terminal.  you might get some errors
[12:10] <Knorrie> mivecz: what exactly did you do (or try to do) when it crashed?
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> Seveas, could you give me thatapt code again
[12:10] <mivecz> update  manager  start 2-3 seconds  after  disappear
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> for the ubuntu desktop  htingy
[12:10] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <Wizz_kidd> thanks
[12:10] <mivecz> synaptick is  workk   but  after
[12:11] <mivecz> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
 E: Unable to correct dependencies
[12:11] <ubtnwb> somebody can say me a dapper repository with decent transfer rate?
[12:11] <freenodes> when upgrading breezy->dapper, is that thru apt-gets or need reinstall?
[12:11] <Knorrie> freenodes: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:11] <dispanser> b_e_n_z: i have xen-tools package in my repository, but i'm using dapper so i'm not sure about breezy users
[12:11] <ubtnwb> i am doing dist-upgrade and archive.ubuntu.com downloads at 10 kn/s...
[12:11] <b_e_n_z> dispanser, ic
[12:12] <balu1> how do i go about installing a new video card ???
[12:12] <balu1> its a PCI card
[12:12] <Makaraki> frank23: I'm not used to use the english lenguage and once I had already filed the form how to send it to you?
[12:12] <mivecz> i use  kde 3.5
[12:12] <brenner> balu1: take the old one out and put the new one in? :P
[12:12] <kbrooks> is ubuntu easy?
[12:12] <Knorrie> mivecz: sounds bad, can you open a terminal, and type 'sudo apt-get update', and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and paste all output to pastebin.com?
[12:12] <balu1> brenner well its sorta diff..
[12:12] <frank23> Makaraki: just paste the link here
[12:13] <NiskuP> Later
[12:13] <mikebot> does anyone know why it is that sometimes in firefox it doesn't display images?
[12:13] <maximaus> Seveas, I think I switched off cron when editing the run levels, would explain those files getting huge. LOL. Thanks, deleted files then touched them.
[12:13] <smellican> who knows why synaptic is giving this error on fluxbox install :     " E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox
[12:13] <mivecz> mivecz@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <mivecz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:13] <mivecz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:13] <balu1> brenner:  i have a integrated gfx card on my mobo.  I want to install my 3dfx Voodoo card.. but when i installed it, xserver isnt starting properly
[12:13] <Wizz_kidd> ey Seveas thanks for helping a Gnome n00b out that worked ;) thanks again
[12:13] <firstent> does any of u uses limewir?
[12:13] <balu1> brenner: so im not sure what to do.
[12:13] <firstent> does any of u uses limewire?
[12:13] <mikebot> anyone please?
[12:13] <Seveas> mivecz, don't paste in here
[12:13] <Knorrie> mivecz: paste to pastbin.com, not here
[12:13] <mivecz> ok sorry
[12:13] <brenner> balu1: did you try reconfigging xorg?
[12:13] <gazanfer> i got an error while installing fluxbox, can anyone please help me?
[12:14] <dispanser> mikebot: maybe you have activated the option to only show images from the same server?
[12:14] <Makaraki> frank: its called frank23: Azureus error
[12:14] <oklinux> no just tequilla and lime firstent
[12:14] <Knorrie> mivecz: first, close al other package manager programs, like synaptic
[12:14] <balu1> brenner: well i dno when to do that??? ive never installed a card in linux b4..
[12:14] <mivecz> is  close
[12:14] <mivecz> :)
[12:14] <brenner> kbrooks: depends.  you usually have to buy her a few drinks.
[12:14] <mivecz> how  can i  restart kde
[12:14] <brenner> balu1: have you already put the card in and tried booting?
[12:15] <mivecz> in terminal
[12:15] <ompaul> mivecz, ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:15] <mikebot> dispanser, well i saw the images  second ago, but now they don't appear
[12:15] <balu1> brenner: right. it disables xserver
[12:15] <Knorrie> mivecz: why restart kde?
[12:15] <balu1> brenner: put my gfx card in, and x doesnt load..
[12:15] <gazanfer> can anyone help me about this error? i got it while installing fluxbox: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fluxbox_0.9.12-1build1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/bsetroot.1.gz', which is also in package blackbox
[12:15] <dispanser> strange. never seen that, sorry
[12:15] <frank23> Makaraki: I don't know. I can tell you how I installed azureus. the way you did it, the auto update won't work anyways
[12:15] <mikebot> it's okay
[12:15] <Wizz_kidd> iu like this gnome over kde seems more well put together
[12:16] <ubtnwb> a mirror to for archive.ubuntu.com with decent DL rate?
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: b0rk3d packages....
[12:16] <Makaraki> frank23: Ok thanks again
[12:16] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, i prefer kde.  it depends somewhat on what's important to you.  they each have advantages
[12:16] <brenner> balu1: right.  you should get dumped to a prompt.  you should then run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <gazanfer> Knorrie, what does that mean?
[12:16] <Wizz_kidd> what is a good music player for Gnome similar to amarok for kde
[12:16] <mivecz> before  superkaramba crash  before  1-2 months someone  tell me  a  command to  restart kde and is  work ok
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: packages shouldn't use the same filenames while not conflicting with each other
[12:16] <mivecz> restart for  terminal
[12:16] <Knorrie> gazanfer: that's debian policy
[12:16] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, you can use amarok with gnome
[12:16] <dispanser> mivecz: so your kde is currently not running?
[12:16] <frank23> Makaraki: download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.tar.bz2?download
[12:17] <Wizz_kidd> sethk, i do more developing etc kde might be a little mroe user friednly but i like this a lil better
[12:17] <Sanne> ubtnwb, there's a tool for finding the fastest mirror... apt-spy, I believe.
[12:17] <mivecz> dispanser now kde is  running
[12:17] <Wizz_kidd> sethk, I was trying to keep things native ;)
[12:17] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: banshee maybe?
[12:17] <dispanser> mivecz: if it's running, why don't you just use the menu for a restart?
[12:17] <sethk> Wizz_kidd, I'm a developer also.  I'm still trying to figure out how to resize windows with alt-right click in gnome.  I've heard that it's possible, but I haven't found the secret
[12:17] <gazanfer> Knorrie, now what should i do?
[12:17] <mivecz> is now  work
[12:18] <dispanser> k
[12:18] <gilesw> dunno why they don't use vlc as the default movie player..
[12:18] <mivecz> nothing  i  do   33 times:P
[12:18] <Eleaf> hi
[12:18] <gilesw> it just plays everything no hastle
[12:18] <frank23> ubtnwb: use a local mirror us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:18] <Knorrie> gazanfer: remove blackbox, or tell apt to force things
[12:18] <dispanser> gilesw: mplayer does that, too :)
[12:18] <Makaraki> frank23: do I have to dpkg --purge azureus before?
[12:19] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah ok
[12:19] <gilesw> k i'll try that
[12:19] <gazanfer> Knorrie, weird thing is, i never installed blackbox :)
[12:19] <gilesw> apt-get install azereus
[12:19] <balu1> brenner thanks, ill be afk for a few min..
[12:19] <gilesw> oops
[12:19] <gilesw> lols
[12:19] <Stormx2> gilesw: Wrong window :P
[12:19] <gilesw> where's me xterm!
[12:19] <Knorrie> gazanfer: dpkg -l | grep black
[12:19] <AnObfuscator> Can anyone help me figure out why I can't mount my IDE HFS+ drive? I keep getting a weird "unable to find superblock" error
[12:20] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: what's the mount command you are using?
[12:20] <gilesw> hmm it's not in me repos..
[12:20] <mivecz>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? (what is these?
[12:20] <SAM_theman> yo people
[12:20] <Makaraki> frank23: it is that correct after cheking with dpkg -l azureus : pn  azureus        <ninguna>      (no hay ninguna descripcin disponible)
[12:20] <SAM_theman> my sound still doesn't work :C
[12:20] <brenner> mivecz: close synaptic
[12:21] <mikebot> does ubuntu come with another web browser besides firefox?
[12:21] <frank23> Makaraki: do a sudo apt-get remove azureus
[12:21] <brenner> mivecz: w3m :P
[12:21] <dispanser> mikebot: mozilla suite is installed, too
[12:21] <dispanser> mikebot: at least on my system
[12:21] <mikebot> dispanser, how do i open that?
[12:21] <frank23> Makaraki: mkdir ~/opt   and copy the file you downloaded to ~/op
[12:21] <brenner> dispanser: not on mine :-/
[12:21] <gazanfer> Knorrie,  seems like you were right. i got blackbox installed
[12:22] <mikebot> dispanser, oh,..i don't see that under internet
[12:22] <dispanser> mikebot: then it's probably not installed... apt-get install mozilla
[12:22] <Makaraki> frank23: ok
[12:22] <mikebot> dispanser, thanks
[12:22] <AnObfuscator> Dispanser: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdc1 [mountpoint]
[12:22] <brenner> mikebot: what's wrong with ff?
[12:22] <mivecz> brenner  i dont  look  synaptic   no  where in desktop so   grrrrrrrr
[12:22] <mikebot> brenner, for some reason, sometimes it doesn't display images
[12:22] <mivecz> i  close synaptic  maybe is  run   behind?
[12:23] <Chodder> Is there a way to use apt-get to remove all of gnome?  apt-get remove gnome is only going to remove the base
[12:23] <frank23> Makaraki: then   cd ~/opt    tar zjvf Azureus.filename
[12:23] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: that mount cmd looks good...
[12:24] <brenner> mikebot: is this 1.5 or 1.0.7?
[12:24] <Knorrie> gazanfer: so there's a bug in the fluxbox package, because it should have a 'Conflicts' line against blackbox
[12:24] <pramz> hi
[12:24] <Chodder> BTW, im using kubuntu dapper, and i installed gnome but don't really want it anymore
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, 1.5
[12:24] <frank23> Makaraki: if you speak spanish you can also try  #ubuntu-es  for spanish discussion
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, and like i'll see the images, but later i wont
[12:24] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: yeah, it's how I mounted other drives i've added. I get the HFS+ superblock error from dmesg
[12:24] <mikebot> brenner, like if i go to the page again
[12:24] <dispanser> from dmesg?
[12:24] <TheUltimateWarri> Anybody managed to install postfix with SASL?
[12:24] <dispanser> not on the cmd line? That's strange
[12:24] <vincenz> Why can't the new totem-gstreamer not play any formats that totem-xine could... it just shows drawings of what is most likely an audio-display
[12:25] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: mount tells me to check dmesg
[12:25] <Knorrie> TheUltimateWarri: yes
[12:25] <TheUltimateWarri> Knorrie, Any step-by-step directions available?! :D
[12:25] <gilesw> hmm mplayer looks nice but it goes crazy when playing
[12:25] <gilesw> keeps asking for pcm device 0
[12:25] <Stormx2> gilesw: Just use Audacious :P
[12:26] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html ?
[12:26] <dispanser> AnObfuscator: hm, no idea, sorry.
[12:26] <Makaraki> frank23: I used tar jxvf instead of yours but It seems being well descompressed
[12:26] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: or isn't the answer to your question around there?
[12:26] <mivecz> brenner?
[12:26] <RemyLaptop> hi guys: how do I add an application to start up ?
[12:26] <mivecz> brenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these
[12:26] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Let me take a peek and I'll let you know! :)
[12:26] <AnObfuscator> dispanser: thanks anyway
[12:27] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah. I made a mistake there ;)
[12:27] <SAM_theman> i gives me this http://pastebin.com/600667
[12:27] <SAM_theman> I get that
[12:27] <frank23> Makaraki: cd azureus,  ./azureus
[12:27] <Knorrie> RemyLaptop: (gnome) system -> preferences -> sessions
[12:27] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I think that's the thing... But would you remember which Ubuntu packages you've installed to get it working?
[12:27] <Stormx2> RemyLaptop: Careful doing that though. it waits for the apps to finish before continuing... I think
[12:27] <Psykus> i'm having problems again with gnome starting to fail to refresh windows, and then freezing hard where I can't do anything...I asked in here before, and with help I determined it was being caused by some sort of network printer problem, I did something and was able to stop it from happening, but i've had to recently install ubuntu again, and it's started again. i've turned off printer sharing on the windows box it's connected to, and even disabled file/pri
[12:27] <Psykus> nter sharing altogether, yet it still keeps freezing. i've also tried killing the cupsd process
[12:28] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: what exactly are you trying to do, and what errors do /var/log/syslog show?
[12:28] <SAM_theman> Try openin termianl and type " killall gnome-panel  "
[12:28] <Wizz_kidd> what is a location i can use with apt-get that has Opera in it ?
[12:28] <Makaraki> frank23: well now its on the screen
[12:28] <Psykus> if I could figure out a way to uninstall cups without uninstalling the gnome-desktop package, I would
[12:28] <Stormx2> "Update your system using your favorite apt tool for the visible user password fix" <-- What is this about?
[12:28] <Psykus> but the package manager won't let me force it
[12:28] <Knorrie> Wizz_kidd: you can use the .deb from opera.com, use the etch version
[12:29] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I just want that everybody not in 'mynetworks' could authenticate with their regular unix password to be able to use the smtp service.
[12:29] <frank23> Makaraki: the program started?
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: The breezy installer left the 1st user's password in a world readable file in /var/log/installer
[12:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ok, that helps me to help :)
[12:29] <Makaraki> frank23: time to chek if it works ... he he a lot of thanks
[12:29] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, :D
[12:29] <Stormx2> cafuego: And you only just noticed? :
[12:29] <Stormx2> :P
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: me?
[12:29] <frank23> Makaraki: no problem. you installed as a user in your home directory so the auto-update will work this way
[12:29] <cafuego> Stormx2: No, I never had this problem.
[12:30] <Stormx2> cafuego: Well, *we* only just noticed
[12:30] <Psykus> if I kill the GUI fast enough when it starts to happen, I can save myself from rebooting
[12:30] <cwillu> anybody know of a gnutella client that has good/reasonable provisions for scripting?
[12:30] <johnny22k> hello all
[12:30] <cwillu> python or http bindings would be preferred :D
[12:30] <frank23> Makaraki: make a link in the menu for it somewhere to start it more easily
[12:30] <Psykus> but once it freezes, I can't move the cursor or switch to virtual terminals
[12:30] <Makaraki> frank23: how?
[12:30] <mivecz> brenner? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10144 look  these
[12:30] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: (clickety)
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: auto-update? it will be automatic
[12:31] <mivecz> can n ayone help me
[12:31] <cwillu> #gnutella
[12:31] <cwillu> bah
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: if there is an update the program will tell you
[12:31] <frank23> Makaraki: oh the link
[12:31] <brenner> mivecz: what command are you running?
[12:31] <Makaraki> frank23: I understand the utility it has but not how to create the link
[12:31] <gilesw> E: Package azureus has no installation candidate
[12:32] <gilesw> i got this but it say it's mentioned
[12:32] <gilesw> i enabled every repo in the sources.list
[12:32] <frank23> Makaraki: there is a menu editor for gnome. someone here should know about it. I don't use gnome
[12:32] <dabear> alacarte(old: smeg)
[12:33] <mivecz> Sudo apt-get  update  complete ok
[12:33] <gilesw> hmm all 3rd party repos i add look for binary-amd64/Packages
[12:33] <mivecz> Sudo apt-get  dist-upgrade
[12:33] <Makaraki> frank23: Thats good enough you help I will keep in mind
[12:33] <frank23> Makaraki: no problem ;)
[12:33] <gilesw> is there a way to specifiy i386 binaries?
[12:34] <techrush> im gonna try to code a craps game in python
[12:34] <techrush> lol
[12:34] <gilesw> even though i'm runnin a64
[12:34] <techrush> good learnign project i think :)
[12:34] <Makaraki> frank23: I will search information about it, greetings from spain here its late and tomorrow time to work again...
[12:34] <frank23> gilesw: if you want to try that look in the forums for the chroot howto
[12:34] <Jambon> ok random question: how are drivers implemented in linux?
[12:34] <frank23> Makaraki: later
[12:34] <poromenos> can someone help me set up my dual head desktop? :/
[12:34] <balu1> brenner: it is asking me to select an xserver driver, im using a 3dfx voodoo3 2000, should i pick glide?
[12:34] <mikebot> brenner, why do you use ff over epiphany?
[12:34] <techrush> jambon they are kernel modules
[12:34] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, 'Dovecot provides an alternative that may be worth considering.' - What do you think about that?
[12:35] <frank23> !tell gilesw about chroot
[12:35] <Makaraki> frank23: hehe ok have fun man, ans see you here other day
[12:35] <frank23> Makaraki: ok. glad I could help
[12:35] <wickers> hey, kinda off topic, but who here knows of a good ad placement company (like adsense) that's, well, not adsense?
[12:35] <brenner> mikebot: ff was already installed. :)
[12:35] <mikebot> brenner, hehe okay
[12:35] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10145
[12:36] <Jambon> techrush: ok. how does that differe from having a binary layer? I saw this discussion on slashdot a while back, and I'm wondering how Linux's implemenation of drivers may hinder people from making drivers for linux?
[12:36] <brenner> mikebot: they both use the gecko engine don't they?  i guess i just prefer the interface
[12:36] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: dovecot is an imap server, it's not like postfix
[12:36] <mikebot> brenner, yeah they do, okay
[12:36] <Wizz_kidd> 8,000 emails on my server  damn shit
[12:36] <brenner> mikebot: but i was a long time user of mozilla
[12:36] <brenner> before i switched to ff
[12:36] <poromenos> how can i configure the X server to behave correctly on my dual screen setup
[12:36] <poromenos> ?
[12:36] <techrush> jambron im not sure....sorry
[12:36] <mikebot> brenner, me oto, until it stopped displaying images
[12:37] <brenner> balu1: i'm not sure to tell you the truth.
[12:37] <gazanfer> smellican, are you here?
[12:37] <Jambon> anyone else know about this?
[12:37] <brenner> balu1: but you could always choose vesa as a failsafe
[12:37] <UltimateWarrior> UltimateWarrior, Ok, I'm already running qpopper through inetd (pretty unstable, by the way) for POP3 access, which is all I want. I just wanted postfix to be able to authenticate users, the simplest way as possible.
[12:37] <balu1> brenner: actually i think i fiugerd that part out.. how do i figure out the PCI Bus ID??
[12:37] <gazanfer> how can i restart x server?
[12:37] <dabear> does anybody know where I can get binaries for the latest firefox development version?
[12:37] <mivecz> i  give  up
[12:37] <mivecz> :(
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: if you're unsure of something, the default is usually the right thing to choose (i.e. just press enter)
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: but you could always run lspci
[12:38] <balu1> brenner: but couldnt it be picking up my previous integrated gfx card?.. how do i run lspci during x set up?
[12:38] <cwillu> gazanfer:  ctrl+alt+backspace is an ugly way to force the issue
[12:38] <brenner> balu1: you can't.  you'd have to quit the setup
[12:38] <gazanfer> cwillu, it jumps to graphical interface in a second...
[12:38] <poromenos> someone help me, ubuntu is displayed on the wrong screen :(
[12:39] <cwillu> dabear;  check mozilla.org;  those builds will work, they're just a bit trickier to integrate completely into ubuntu
[12:39] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the pastebin i just gave you is the way to get postfix to accept relaying outbound mail and checking passwds against the local /etc/passwd
[12:39] <cwillu> gazanfer; did you want to shut it down or restart it?
[12:39] <balu1> brenner: ah i c. k well i ll figure the rest out by some trial and error.. gotta learn linux some way.. thanks man :)
[12:39] <brenner> mikebot: so epiphany works for you?
[12:39] <cwillu> ctrl+alt+backspace will restart it, taking you back to the gui
[12:39] <brenner> balu1: np good luck
[12:39] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm, got it! Thanks a lot!
[12:39] <mikebot> brenner, hrm..i thought it did...
[12:39] <Snake__> Hey guys, where are the ubuntu irc log files at?....
[12:39] <gazanfer> i think i need to restart it, but i dont know if atrl alt backspace works, because there should be a fluxbox option when i restart, its not there...
[12:39] <cwillu> oops
[12:40] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i'm sorry it's a bit complicated, but hey... sasl is too complicated :|
[12:40] <mikebot> brenner, when you go to amazon and click on a book and click look inside this book, do yous ee images?
[12:40] <brenner> cwillu: not always in my experience.  he might have to login and type 'startx'
[12:40] <cwillu> nvm the oops
[12:40] <mikebot> cause for me they aren't appearing
[12:40] <cwillu> (oops the oops)
[12:40] <dabear> cwillu, Having problem finding anything newer than  <IP_ADDRESS>. I want to test the bleeding edge, not the latest stable..
[12:40] <frank23> dabear: firefox 2 alpha came out I think
[12:40] <cwillu> dabear;  look around for tinderbox or the nightly builds;  you should be able to find something on their dev site
[12:40] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: just look at the postfix lines in your /var/log/syslog to see whatever you forgot to do
[12:41] <Snake__> Oh comeone I Know someone here knows lol
[12:41] <cwillu> gazanfer; elaborate on that;  you just installed a new wm?
[12:41] <nalioth> dabear: mozilla.org click on "developer"
[12:41] <brenner> mikebot: do you have a sample url?
[12:41] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Thanks, man! Indeed!
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: have you not already asked this?
[12:41] <gazanfer> cwillu, yes. fluxbox
[12:41] <Snake__> nalioth: I have without answer...
[12:41] <cwillu> gazanfer; there's an option on the login page to choose your session;  hit that, and you should see any new wm's in the list
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: the site is down atm
[12:41] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: actually, i do things like that on debian servers, but ubuntu is the same way.. :)
[12:41] <Snake__> nalioth: alright thats all I needed lol
[12:41] <nalioth> Snake__: have patience, the logs aren't goin anywhere
[12:41] <gazanfer> i did that, but its not there...
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, yeah..
[12:42] <gazanfer> cwillu, i did that, its not there...
[12:42] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, A little 'better', I'd say! :)
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/041522862X/sr=8-1/qid=1142293352/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2000169-1794258?%5Fencoding=UTF8
[12:42] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ahum, please don't start flame wars
[12:42] <mikebot> brenner, and click on the picture of the book
[12:42] <cwillu> gazanfer; sudo gdm restart should do the trick too, but I get the feeling fluxbox isn't installed right
[12:43] <cwillu> or is it gdm stop followed by gdm start...
[12:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, okeedokee
[12:44] <brenner> mikebot: i get a white box...
[12:44] <brenner> actually
[12:44] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i, personally prefer debian on server and ubuntu on desktop, but ymmv and perhaps you have other thoughts ;)
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, and not text from the book, right?
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, it should be showing pages
[12:44] <brenner> mike-e: the cover just loaded
[12:44] <mikebot> brenner, oh..odd
[12:44] <brenner> and i see text
[12:45] <gazanfer> cwillu, how can i test if its installed right or not?
[12:45] <mikebot> brenner, for me it says 'Done' in the bottom corner, and nothing loads
[12:45] <cwillu> gazanfer; I think you did, and it's not :)
[12:45] <mstt> anyone know how to make icons smaller (gnome)
[12:45] <mstt> ?
[12:45] <brenner> mikebot: odd.  and i'm on dialup too!
[12:45] <cwillu> gazanfer; one sec, I think I've installed it on mine, let me check what packages were involved
[12:45] <judgen> Anyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?
[12:46] <gazanfer> cwillu, when i dpkg -l | grep flux, it shows up... doesnt that mean its installed?
[12:46] <mikebot> brenner, oh,...i was forcing a black background
[12:46] <brenner> matt_: which icons?
[12:46] <cwillu> not if that's not the package that makes it work
[12:46] <mikebot> brenner, and i guess this thing is a gif with the white part being transparent
[12:46] <cwillu> like installing gnome vs ubuntu-desktop :)
[12:46] <balu1> anyone here ever install a 3dfx voodoo3?
[12:47] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I completely 'moved' to Ubuntu when installing a DELL machine with a PERC controller or something like that and Debian required a lot of struggling with driver diskettes while Ubuntu would simply support it out-of-the-box... But as you said, your mileage may vary... ;)
[12:47] <balu1> wooot. got it. it worked :)
[12:47] <brenner> balu1: nice.
[12:47] <balu1> thanks brenner, go tit up and runnign, had tro change the pci slot
[12:47] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: true
[12:47] <balu1> it was picking up my integrated gfx card. had to manually put in the voodoo
[12:48] <judgen> Anyone got a repository with realplayer 10 in it?
[12:48] <brenner> balu1: by specifying the pci slot?
[12:48] <brenner> judgen: seveas' one might have it.
[12:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell judgen about realplayer
[12:48] <Knorrie> judgen: don't repeat please, we have eyes, we can read
[12:48] <mikebot> hrm, but epiphany doesn't load these images..odd
[12:48] <mikebot> oh there it goes
[12:48] <mikebot> takes quite a while
[12:49] <brenner> *nod*
[12:50] <judgen> brenner: what is  the deb url?
[12:50] <Makaraki> Frank23: hehe ejem... I have a problem
[12:50] <brenner> judgen: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:50] <brenner> judgen: i'm not certain they are in there though
[12:51] <Makaraki> frank23: Still you here?
[12:51] <cwillu> gazanfer;  sorry, I don't have it installed;  I'd try removing it and reinstalling it though, also, run a google and see if you can find anything regarding fluxbox gdm integration
[12:51] <frank23> Makaraki: yeah. azureus is not working?
[12:51] <gazanfer> cwillu, thx
[12:51] <SAM_theman> what does it mean when u have a nvidia card with the "Binary Drivers"??
[12:52] <SAM_theman> from ubutnu of nvidia's site??
[12:52] <cwillu> gazanfer; also, you can try running a bare xserver, and then running fluxbox by hand pointing it to that
[12:52] <Knorrie> SAM_theman: the nvidia ones
[12:52] <frank23> SAM_theman: binary drivers give you 3d acceleration
[12:52] <Knorrie> SAM_theman: the 'closed source'
[12:52] <SAM_theman> so it's better?
[12:52] <Knorrie> wel.... :)
[12:53] <The_Isle_of_Mark> hey all, anyone know of a good regex crib sheet out there?
[12:53] <frank23> SAM_theman: if you need 3d yeah.  you can install them easily with synaptic
[12:53] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Man... After editing FSTAB to get SASL working I though 'Man, THAT's complicated!!' :o
[12:53] <SAM_theman> how
[12:53] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; the python regex docs are okay
[12:53] <SAM_theman> i have the nv drivers from synaptic already
[12:53] <SAM_theman> but can't seem to run glx gears it's not giving me fps
[12:53] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; I've also used sun's java docs, but they're much harder to find stuff in
[12:53] <Makaraki> frank23: its about sound , after closing the lastfm I can not listen to the sound of a youtube video
[12:53] <frank23> !tell SAM_theman about nvidia
[12:53] <Travis_> how can I use AuthType Digest with apache2 on Ubuntu
[12:54] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: oh, but that's because saslauthd uses a unix socket and postfix is in chroot
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu thanks, I'll check it out, just nee a quick guide when I am doing stuff
[12:54] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; I've been unimpressed by the free standing tutorials I've found though
[12:54] <frank23> Makaraki: I don't know that lastfm program
[12:54] <brenner> SAM_theman: glxgears doesn't print the fps by default
[12:54] <SAM_theman> o
[12:54] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark;   python.org, 2.4 docs, module 're'
[12:54] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: a mount --bind can be more safe than not-chrooting postfix
[12:54] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, I have been using the learning perl oreilly book, but it is a pain since I dont have it in e format
[12:54] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I get the point, but let's agree that this step adds a lot of 'complication' to the whole thing! :D
[12:54] <SAM_theman> cause when i play my games i have alsome fps but no sound
[12:54] <frank23> !glxgears
[12:54] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[12:54] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure.
[12:55] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yeah, it's not really excellent documented
[12:55] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; are you doing stuff online?  i.e., trying examples as you see them?
[12:55] <SAM_theman> don't know whats up with my sound
[12:55] <cwillu> best way to learn 'em
[12:55] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, What do I need to restart to get the whole thing working? I guess I'll have to mount that mountpoint and restart postfix, right?
[12:55] <Makaraki> frank23: it also hapends when for exemple I am listening to rhythmbox ans after closing the music player the youtube videos or thevideo google not sound
[12:55] <gazanfer> cwillu, i removed and reinstalled fluxbox and it worked :)
[12:56] <SAM_theman> can u just help me on this on to
[12:56] <cwillu> gazanfer; yay!
[12:56] <SAM_theman> its about my sound
[12:56] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: mount /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd
[12:56] <Stormx2> how do I check what apps are listing to what ports?
[12:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, when I need them I use grep or sed to check them, etc. I sometimes have to write some complicated searches so I just want a quick reference
[12:56] <frank23> Makaraki: sorry I don't know
[12:56] <cwillu> The_Isle_of_Mark; no better way to figure out what match(r"(?:foo)bar(baz)", "foobarbaz") actualy does :)
[12:56] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sudo invoke-rc.d postfix restart
[12:56] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, right
[12:56] <Ads_> Hello All! ^_^
[12:56] <UltimateWarrior> I've mounted the shorter string :D -> 'mount /var/run/saslauthd'
[12:57] <gazanfer> cwillu, now can i remove gnome and everything related to it?
[12:57] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: if you want to use TLS also, you got to have ssl certificates
[12:57] <The_Isle_of_Mark> cwillu, I use sed for testing mostly...gotta love sed
[12:57] <o|AhfeeL> hi all
[12:57] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: thats ok
[12:57] <cwillu> gazanfer; depends on if you want whatever gnome integration fluxbox has or not
[12:57] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Not sure what TLS is about. Is SASL enough for plain simple password authentication?
[12:57] <Makaraki> frank23: well man no problem thanks again becouse azureus is working quite goog
[12:57] <ahFeel> could someone help me ? i need to create the /dev/tun0 device to set up a VPN
[12:57] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/600706
[12:57] <ahFeel> but i don't have any idea of how creating this device :/
[12:57] <cwillu> ahFeel; look up mktun
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yes it is, but the passwords travel in 'plain' text over the internet
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Also: What's the big deal about invoke-rc.d? I always run /etc/init.d/service blahblah...
[12:58] <SAM_theman> thats what i get when i try to play music or my games
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: so blah tcpdump... ethereal etc etc
[12:58] <ahFeel> cwillu ? a lil more details please ? :)
[12:58] <gazanfer> cwillu, i dont know what you mean (im total noob), but im pretty sure i will not use anything related to gnome anymore.
[12:58] <ahFeel> is it a command ?
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: it's almost the same
[12:58] <Makaraki> Hi people I can not listen the audio from the youtube or videogogle after closing an audio player why it hapends?
[12:58] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d is the 'official' way
[12:58] <Wizz_kidd> what are some sources ......i dont have many avalibale applications in my synnaptic
[12:58] <cwillu> ahFeel; what vpn are you using?  openvpn?
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm... And is it a pain-in-the-@$$ to get TSL working?
[12:58] <Wizz_kidd> like no gnomebaker etc
[12:58] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Got it. Let's switch to the official stuff, then!
[12:59] <ahFeel> ahhh ok cwillu
[12:59] <ahFeel> i saw in the help
[12:59] <IdleOne> Wizz_kidd>  wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories
[12:59] <cwillu> :p
[12:59] <ahFeel> i'll try to go on on that
[12:59] <ahFeel> =]
[12:59] <ahFeel> thank you man
[12:59] <cwillu> gazanfer; you can try removing it, if things break you should be able to reinstall ubuntu-desktop to fix it
[12:59] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: depends... it's handy to know things about ssl, certificate authorities etc
[01:00] <SAM_theman> !soundproblems
[01:00] <ubotu> soundproblems is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:00] !lilo:*! Channel hint.... in addition to the various existing channels on web site design and standards, a new group, on #httpcraft, a channel for friendly and knowledgeable assistance to folks putting together web sites. I think they'd like your help in growing a bit. :)
[01:00] <cwillu> gazanfer; unless you're running on a 300mhz with a 500MB hard drive, it's probably not worth it (imho)
[01:00] <Rubin> what exactly is the difference between the stock kernel.org kernel and an ubuntu one?
[01:00] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok. So I'd have to generate keys and stuff like that? What about client configuration after doing that?
[01:00] <rob138> what would cause all my repositories being 404 not found?
[01:00] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: but there are lots of howto's on the web about creating a simple self-signed cert
[01:00] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: eg http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html
[01:00] <Rubin> i need to build a 2.6.16 kernel should i try to patch it with ubuntu?
[01:00] <Ads_> Hello all, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.
[01:00] <cwillu> rob138, paste your sources.list (use the pastebin)
[01:00] <cwillu> !paste
[01:00] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:00] <Wizz_kidd> IdleOne, where are the repsositories?
[01:01] <gazanfer> cwillu, thx again. bye all
[01:01] <cwillu> Rubin; I believe there are packages in synaptic with the ubuntu patches already applied
[01:01] <IdleOne> Wizz_kidd>  you need to enable universe and multiverse. follow that link I gave you
[01:01] <Rubin> cwillu: i need 2.6.16 specifically, and its not in there yet
[01:01] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Cool. By the way, how can I test the authentication now? I'm familiar with 'telnetting smtps' but I don't have a clue about how I'd authenticate on it...
[01:01] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the client doesn't need configuration most of the time. fetchmail won't complain, thunderbird etc users will see a dialog telling them if they want to trust your server
[01:01] <b33r> how can I install java?
[01:01] <rob138> where is my sources.list?
[01:01] <IdleOne> !java
[01:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:02] <ReadTopicForTime> I'm so psyched for tomorrow's meeting
[01:02] <b33r> ty
[01:02] <IdleOne> rob> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <IdleOne> rob138> > /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: fetchmail?
[01:02] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: ow no
[01:02] <silvaran> Rubin: There was a wiki post on digg awhile back on compiling your own kernel (with or without ubuntu patches--I'm afraid you're going to have to go without), I'll see if I can find it.
[01:03] <cwillu> IdleOne; gotta love it when completion requires more keypresses than just typing the thing in the first place :)
[01:03] <rob138> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10147
[01:03] <IdleOne> lol yeah
[01:03] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: erhm... using a mail client and configuring smtp server with a login is the most simple i guess
[01:03] <jdmpike2> hello
[01:03] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I think I'll just set up something like that, thanks.
[01:03] <felix_> hi, i am searching for the command to run Open Office writer in terminal ? can someone help
[01:04] <Rubin> silvaran: i know how to do it, with. just curious if i need to keep anything in mind when going without
[01:04] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: on the cli... i used to use esmtp
[01:04] <slynux> hey I need install the  libqt-mt.so.3 library
[01:04] <LucasArruda> People, is there a way to install Dapper Drake from a LiveCD with a ISO on a ReiserFS?
[01:04] <jdmpike2> when is Dapper RC going to be released?
[01:04] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Last, but not least... I'm having some weird behaviour with qpopper/inetutils-inetd. It just becomes unavailable after a while, then I have to restart inetd. Any suggestion?
[01:04] <cwillu> rob138; are all the repositories giving 404's, or just some/most?
[01:04] <mikeo1> hmmm
[01:04] <silvaran> Rubin: Well you're going to lose stuff like linux-restricted-modules (including the nvidia stuff) which you'll need to add back on yourself if you have an nvidia card... if you're using ndiswrapper you're also going to have to compile it yourself (for the ndiswrapper module).
[01:05] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: no, i never used qpopper
[01:05] <cwillu> rob138; next, do you use a proxy?
[01:05] <felix_> How cna i run Oowriter from console ?
[01:05] <Kyral> felix_, oowriter?
[01:05] <silvaran> Rubin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835 lists some of the gotchas.
[01:05] <Rubin> thanks
[01:05] <rob138> some/most, i am also cannot connect to gaim, and had to ping irc.freenode.net before connecting to irc, i think there is something wrong with my computer figuring out adresses
[01:05] <felix_> doesnt work :\
[01:05] <cwillu> rob138; finally, can you enter any of the url's in firefox and have them show up?
[01:05] <felix_> command not found
[01:05] <slynux> Hi b33r, I can help you step by step
[01:05] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10148
[01:05] <rob138> i am on a wireless router (not sure about proxy)
[01:06] <Kyral> felix_, uhh, go to Menu Editor and find out what command the Menu Entry is runnign?
[01:06] <judgen> haha i just tried to install ksirc from dappers repo and now im apperantly upgrading the entire system =P
[01:06] <cwillu> rob138; paste the output of "host -v archive.ubuntu.com"
[01:06] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: without TLS(encryption) dont use the TLS section from main.cf, and dont use smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
[01:06] <cwillu> also, what model/type of router is it?
[01:07] <slynux> How I can refresh the Ubuntu Bredzy to Dapper, I can't
[01:07] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Thanks a lot!
[01:07] <firstent> !c
[01:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firstent
[01:07] <rob138> cwillu, what part of it?
[01:07] <firstent> !c++
[01:07] <cwillu> the whole thing
[01:07] <cwillu> paste bin it
[01:07] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Do you suggest anything to replace qpopper?
[01:07] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: when using tls, be sure tlsmgr is uncommented at the bottom of /etc/postfix/master.cf (no problem :)
[01:08] <Ads_> people, any chance I can fix this keyboard and touchpad lag on my laptop? I've noticed it to be a common problem among first time users such as myself. Sometimes it will be fine then on other times I would need a reboot to stop the jerky mouse movements and key lag. Any help much appreciated.
[01:08] <judgen> slynux: just rename every instance of breezy to dapper in the sources.list and then type "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:08] <silvaran> slynux: Followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:08] <cwillu> Ads_; firefox open?
[01:08] <Wizz_kidd> why isnt Opera in any repsotitory
[01:08] <judgen> Wizz_kidd: it is
[01:08] <Ads_> yes cwillu
[01:08] <Wizz_kidd> what one
[01:08] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i dont know, if you want to use /var/spool/mail to collect incoming mail in mbox and just have some users who pop it from there...
[01:08] <stoat> anyone know how I can get my rtl8180 wlan card going on a PPC laptop?
[01:09] <cwillu> Ads_; check how much vm and resident its using (top in a terminal)
[01:09] <rob138> cwillu, i can get the repositories if i first ping them in the terminal, as with most sites,
[01:09] <silvaran> !tell Wizz_kidd about opera
[01:09] <Ads_> ok cwillu
[01:09] <cwillu> rob138; I really need to see the host -v archive.ubuntu.com :)
[01:09] <rob138> sure, one sec
[01:09] <slynux> I did this but I had Erros
[01:09] <cwillu> rob138; and what brand of router is it?  :)
[01:09] <Wizz_kidd>  opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:09] <cwillu> pay attention dammit :p
[01:09] <Wizz_kidd> thoght u saiud it was in the repos
[01:10] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i use Cyrus IMAPd for imap access most of the time, also for virtual hosting, with accounts that don't exist in /etc/passwd
[01:10] <silvaran> cwillu: ;)
[01:10] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: but cyrus is also a @# in the #@% for the first time
[01:10] <cwillu> Ads_; if it's more than 200Mb virtual or so, and things get immediately better when you "pkill firefox" from a terminal (which kills it)
[01:10] <rob138> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10149
[01:10] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, I wouldn't like to concern about Maildir and all that stuff... Just something that offers POP3 to the regular mbox thing.
[01:10] <cwillu> rob138; thx
[01:10] <cwillu> rob138; one sec
[01:10] <Ads_> cwilli thats fine, it does it any too
[01:11] <Ads_> anyway*
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> how cna i install a .deb file
[01:11] <judgen> plenet penguin racer rox! =)
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> sorry for sounding like a n00b
[01:11] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: there are lots of pop3 daemons outta there
[01:11] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i <pkg>.deb
[01:11] <cwillu> rob138; it's a problem with your router; it's screwing up the dns resolution just enough to confuse apt-get
[01:11] <cwillu> !<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:11] <ubotu> 1
[01:11] <cwillu> bah
[01:11] <Wizz_kidd> wjat dir will that point 2
[01:11] <cwillu> who deleted that
[01:11] <rob138> cwillu, what should i do then?
[01:11] <cwillu> rob138; what type of router is it?
[01:12] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: Current directory.. so cd to where your deb file is (opera-....deb) and do a dpkg -i opera-....deb
[01:12] <cwillu> I really want to know :)
[01:12] <silvaran> cwillu: sudo apt-get install nmap :)
[01:12] <cwillu> lol
[01:12] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10148
[01:12] <rob138> cwillu, what should i do then?
[01:12] <cwillu> and I still am looking for a good solution for override dhcp's dns setting in resolv.conf
[01:12] <rob138> oops
[01:12] <Ads_> device ra0 activated but no lights on my wireless card are flashing and its not showing any activity for the network :(
[01:12] <rob138> cwillu, it is an actiontec
[01:12] <cwillu> rob138; .... :/
[01:12] <cwillu> :p
[01:12] <Wizz_kidd> thanks silvaran
[01:12] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: http://www.openwall.com/popa3d/ looks nice
[01:12] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I'll check them out. Strange... My mail client is asking for the SMTP password (as expected) but the password doesn't match, though I'm SURE it's right. I've just selected the client's option to use the same password it uses for POP3. :'(
[01:13] <silvaran> cwillu: Can you pass parameters to dhcpcd via the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[01:13] <cwillu> okay, go into the router configuration page, and look around to figure out what your isp's dns server is
[01:13] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: syslog
[01:13] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: invoke-rc.d saslauthd start
[01:13] <rob138> cwillu, do i need the username/password?
[01:13] <lechuck_> can anybody tell me what's better: server hosting at /srv or /var ... never had /srv earlier
[01:13] <cwillu> silvaran; the best I've seen so far is to do an 'up' action to add the data to resolv.conf;  I really don't like that though because if they ever fix it, you'll start getting a huge resolv.conf file
[01:13] <cwillu> rob138; probably admin|admin or admin|<blank>
[01:14] <silvaran> Ahhh...
[01:14] <cafuego> lechuck_: it makes exactly _no_ difference.
[01:14] <lechuck_> thx
[01:14] <cwillu> silvaran; I've usually been getting people to just use a static address, but I don't like doing that either
[01:14] <rob138> cwillu, no luck with those two
[01:14] <silvaran> cwillu: Yeah, I feel your pain, I was trying to help him out earlier, but couldn't figure anything out...
[01:14] <stoat> any wifi gurus around?
[01:14] <James_> hello
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; I know the problem, it's just complicated by the behaviour of dns and dhcp :)
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; his router is mangling the dns packets it passes through, just enough to confuse apt
[01:15] <Nwallins> so... i was trying to follow some instructions from /. on how to fix the cleartext passwd...  one step was 'sudo passwd base-config' but got error message 'Unknown user base-config'
[01:15] <tabby_> Does postgresql-8.1.3 need an additional source to install?
[01:15] <cwillu> silvaran; the major symptom is the warning message you get when you do a 'host <some host name>'
[01:15] <silvaran> cwillu: Can I see that output?
[01:15] <jdmpike2> I CAN'T WAIT FOR DAPPER!!!
[01:15] <cwillu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10149
[01:15] <soron> Ok, I managed to do something stupid.  I deleted the entire Gnome Panel and now can't figure out how to get it back.
[01:16] <cwillu> ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet.
[01:16] <silvaran> Ahhhh...
[01:16] <rob138> cwillu i got in!
[01:16] <Ads_> any link to a decent guide on using ndiswrapper anyone?
[01:16] <cwillu> yay!  look for a status page;  might end up going through every page on it
[01:16] <Nwallins> what's the sound of a thousand hands wanking?
[01:17] <rob138> i'm on the status page, and see two dns servers
[01:17] <logical_mark> So is XGL ever going to get to the point that it is not a pain in the but to setup?
[01:17] <silvaran> This room got blue really quick.
[01:17] <cwillu> rob138; your looking for "dns server" or "name server" or something along thos lines
[01:17] <jdmpike2> where are things in the trash can actually stored?
[01:17] <jdmpike2> I need to delete them
[01:17] <cwillu> logical_mark; -->#ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:17] <silvaran> jdmpike2: Right-click, Empty Trash :)
[01:17] <rob138> cwillu, dns #1 and #2...
[01:17] <millenium_hand> I dont know what is the sound of a thousand hands wanking
[01:17] <cwillu> rob138; what are the ip addresses?
[01:17] <bluesign> hi all, what does eject command do ?
[01:18] <Nwallins> millenium_hand: it's louder than the sound of one hand clapping
[01:18] <tabby_> ok i need to upgrade my postgres to 8.1.3 (from 8.0.3). apt-get doesn't recognize that package though
[01:18] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie,  warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied
[01:18] <silvaran> jdmpike2: Seriously, ~/.Trash, but you should be using the trash can icon.
[01:18] <rob138> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:18] <Eleaf> woaahh
[01:18] <intelikey> ok i guess i need help with 'alsa'  anyone game ?
[01:18] <jdmpike2> silvaran, it won't let me delete a few things
[01:18] <tabby_> is this not compaitble with ubuntu?
[01:18] <jdmpike2> silvaran, so I am going to cd into it and rm -r
[01:18] <cwillu> rob138; k, one second, I'm going to see if I can find a better fix than the one I'm about to tell you :)
[01:18] <Eleaf> rob138, those are my dns servers... o.o
[01:19] <Nwallins> tabby_: open synaptic, search for postgresql, and see what's available
[01:19] <logical_mark> cwillu, thanks
[01:19] <intelikey>    alsamixer returns "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[01:19] <rob138> heh
[01:19] <Toma-> is there a wiki for kernel build?
[01:19] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: adduser postfix sasl
[01:19] <Nwallins> tabby_: most likely, it hasn't been packaged for ubuntu proper.  there may be a 3rd-party package
[01:19] <silvaran> Toma-: Try FindPage on the main wiki, there's also a forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835
[01:19] <bimberi> Toma-: yep, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:20] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Adding user `postfix' to group `sasl'... Done. <- Is that what you wanted?
[01:20] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: yes
[01:20] <Toma-> thanks bimberi i was looking at this page but thought it was a bit iffy...
[01:20] <tabby_> okay that's helpful! thanks
[01:20] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: drwx--x---  2 root     sasl     1024 2006-02-12 18:54 saslauthd
[01:20] <blrich> can someone help? KDE won't start because it says it can't find the .DCOPserver_myhost file. this is after a bad reboot, so I assumed it was some sort of lock issue - I deleted all the lockfiles I could find, the existing .dcop_myhost file, everything in /tmp, but still it won't work and comes up with the same error at startup. what do i do?  Then all my sounds were muted and i got a 2 users using the system while only one was and i did not have any terminal opened at the time?
[01:21] <Nwallins> Ads_: accuweather.com, the website for the forecastfox, will crash firefox if you load the animated radar overhead
[01:21] <blrich> can anyone help? please?
[01:22] <Nwallins> Ads_: well, it won't crash immediately, more like a slow death spiral that consumes all your RAM and CPU
[01:22] <abhorsen> Ok, can anyone help me out here?
[01:22] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sorry man, what did you mean with that? The saslauthd binary?
[01:22] <Ads_> nwallins, i see
[01:22] <Nwallins> Ads_: sorry, just venting my ff frustrations, too :)
[01:22] <intelikey> blrich the lock file will be in  ~/.kde/
[01:23] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: no, just to show that to use the saslautd socket, a process has to be in the sasl group
[01:23] <intelikey> or some sub dir
[01:23] <Ads_> nwallins, its ok lol
[01:23] <blrich> intelikey: deleted everything i could find in there too, still has the same error
[01:23] <silvaran> mikeo1: "Please set the correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script"
[01:23] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, So if my saslauthd is owned by root.root I'd have to chgrp it to sasl?
[01:23] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: hmmmm
[01:24] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: wait a moment (getting complicated lalalala :P )
[01:24] <intelikey> blrich perhaps a 'clean' reboot would find it for you ?
[01:24] <abhorsen> can someone help me?  I was trying to install second life with their new linux installer, but I am new to Ubuntu, and linux, and I got this error:  2006-03-14T00:17:28Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:24] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, sorry to ask so much info...
[01:24] <abhorsen> What does that mean?
[01:25] <UltimateWarrior> By the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P
[01:25] <blrich> intelikey: i would do that, except i can't run 'reboot' from the commandline kdm has provided for me. everytime i try sudo or sudo su it says 'can't lookup yourhost' and it wont work
[01:25] <Nwallins> hmm, why do i have a user 'irc'?
[01:25] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, By the way, I've just removed qpopper and installed popa3d. Now POP3 auth also doesn't work. :P
[01:25] <nalioth> Nwallins: are you running an irc server?
[01:25] <Nwallins> nalioth: no
[01:26] <Ivaldi> There's alot of traceroute entries showing up in my firestarter events log. should I be concerned?
[01:26] <Nwallins> nalioth: home folder shows /var/run/ircd
[01:26] <intelikey> blrich there it the problem 'hostname is not set.'  so  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    and reboot the thing from there.
[01:26] <Toma-> you have an irc server installed
[01:26] <Nwallins> nalioth: which doesn't exist
[01:26] <abhorsen> can someone please help?  Im sorry to be a pest, But it seems noone is talkin to me. . .
[01:26] <Nwallins> Toma-, nalioth: /var/run/ircd doesn't exist
[01:27] <Toma-> Nwallins: did you install an irc server at some point?
[01:27] <nalioth> Nwallins: i'm not good at mysteries, perhaps Toma- can help
[01:27] <blrich> intelikey: ctrl+alt+f1, like, break out of kdm?  how do i set the hostname, it *says* the hostname, it just can't 'look it up' according to the error
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: maybe.. i'm pretty sure i haven't
[01:27] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Just rebooted the f machine... Sometimes it just fixes everything! :D
[01:27] <Toma-> Nwallins: what time/date was it created?
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: i have a debian box that functions as a server. ubuntu is my desktop
[01:27] <cwillu> silvaran; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf has the approriate line commented out
[01:27] <Nwallins> Toma-: i am looking at /etc/passwd right now
[01:27] <UNiXWHoRe> hmmm peepz?
[01:27] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: install postfix-doc and look at /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz, i'm gonna quote from there now
[01:28] <cwillu> silvaran; easy enough to put in the dns server and uncomment to unbreak this, I think
[01:28] <Nwallins> Toma-: irc's home folder does not exist (/var/run/ircd)
[01:28] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok, installing it...
[01:28] <Toma-> Nwallins: well the easiest thing to do is just remove the user and go on with your life...
[01:28] <XpCrash> i know this has nothing to do with linux but does anyone know how to get into the bios on a g3 i mac
[01:28] <UNiXWHoRe> how do i compile a new kernel under ubuntu? tells me i need qt for xconfig and ncurses for menuconfig
[01:28] <intelikey> blrich yes "break out of kdm"     get in linux and and [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]  reboot
[01:28] <Nwallins> Toma-: easy, sure, but I'd like to sleep at night too
[01:28] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: less /usr/share/doc/postfix/SASL_README.gz
[01:28] <abhorsen> can somebody pleeeeeeease help me?
[01:28] <UNiXWHoRe> why arent these packages already installed?
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> silvaran, mikeo1: I saw that once.  I think it's looking for fonts in the old X (What's that called again?) directory, and can be fixed by placing a symlink to the X.org one.
[01:28] <bimberi> Nwallins, Toma-: I have an irc user too
[01:28] <ruzgar> i have a problem with evolutin i cant change the pop ports
[01:29] <Toma-> Nwallins: what permissions does this user have?
[01:29] <ruzgar> i cant find that atribute
[01:29] <Nwallins> bimberi: but no irc server/daemon installed?
[01:29] <Toma-> or what groups is it in?
[01:29] <bimberi> Nwallins: never
[01:29] <blrich> intelikey: got it, i'll try that
[01:29] <ruzgar> can anyone help me?
[01:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: erhm.. :| it's not in there... i'm searching for a dpkg-override like command
[01:29] <intelikey> abhorsen that warning you posted just means that that particular function will not be used.
[01:29] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: is your /var/run/saslauthd really root:root?
[01:29] <bimberi> Nwallins: haven't even run an irc client on that machine
[01:30] <Toma-> cool, i have an irc user aswell
[01:30] <Nwallins> Toma-: uid = 39   i guess it's setup by the installer?      no groups, btw
[01:30] <abhorsen> I got a warning for something, odd
[01:30] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Oh no, I was talking about `whereis saslauthd`
[01:30] <Nwallins> Toma-: i guess the mystery is solved ;)
[01:30] <Toma-> Nwallins: well no need to worry. no groups generally means no permissions
[01:30] <silvaran> Nwallins: If it makes you feel any better, I have that user too... I wouldn't worry about it.
[01:30] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sorry! `which saslauthd`
[01:30] <intelikey> other than the lldlinux one abhorsen ?
[01:30] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: what permissions does /var/run/saslauthd have?
[01:31] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Let me see...
[01:31] <Nwallins> the thought of some script kiddie using my box and pipe for a irc warez server...   :/
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; are you getting any of my messages in the other chat
[01:31] <Toma-> sif a script kiddie could break a linux box
[01:31] <UNiXWHoRe> somebody help me please, i need to get qt-devel or ncurses-devel, so i can configure and compile a new kernel...
[01:31] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, drwx--x---  2 root sasl 136 2006-03-13 21:31 /var/run/saslauthd/
[01:31] <rob138> cwillu, no did you get mine?
[01:31] <bimberi> Nwallins: looks like it comes with the default install
[01:31] <abhorsen> Im sorry, Im slow, I have no freakin Idea what I am doing intelikey
[01:31] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: oh thats ok
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; yep :)
[01:31] <rob138> try again
[01:31] <cwillu> rob138; I wrote like 30 lines of instructions :)
[01:31] <rob138> i was disconnected
[01:31] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: just try to send some mail :)
[01:32] <rob138> sorry
[01:32] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Ok! :)
[01:32] <cwillu> rob138; I take it you're not seeing them still :p
[01:32] <abhorsen> all I did was run the program, and the last thing in the log was that.  What it means, no clue.
[01:32] <cwillu> rob138; how did you end up fixing it?
[01:32] <rob138> yeah do i need to turn them on in xirc?
[01:32] <abhorsen> I just want it to work!!!
[01:32] <Nwallins> Toma-: i am part of a hosting cooperative..  a hole in Drupal allowed an italian warez group to use our main debian box to serve movies
[01:33] <Toma-> what the heck is drupal?
[01:33] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: nonetheless i recommend reading some docs about what you're doing now, so you understand all of it... that's a good thing
[01:33] <Nwallins> Toma-: CMS for php
[01:33] <Makura> Is it possible to use remote desktop between a computer using Linux and a computer using Windows?
[01:33] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe if you don't even know how to install a devel package why are you compiling a kernel ?    but at any rate,   use  apt-cache search <package>  to find the full package name you are trying to get and then   sudo apt-get install <package>
[01:33] <silvaran> Makura: yup, vnc or rdp
[01:33] <rob138> well i first went to networking from administration in gnome, and saw that one of the dns servers was not one of the two i mentioned, in fact it was an old one from another wireless connection, so i changed that, but it didnt seem to do me any help, so i edited resolv.conf and saw the same results as networking, so i again changed it, and now everything is working perfectly
[01:33] <Toma-> Nwallins: i see.
[01:33] <Makura> silvaran: Awesome, I didn't know VNC worked for Linux.  Thanks.
[01:34] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure! Just to let you know, sendimg mail succeeded, but now POP3 sucked! :P
[01:34] <mettallicat> hey dudes ... i'm wondering why i've this error
[01:34] <cwillu> rob138; okay, that's the root cause :)
[01:34] <mettallicat> root@aragon:/etc/X11# nano xorg.conf
[01:34] <mettallicat> Error opening terminal: gnome.
[01:34] <Toma-> anyone know what Timer Frequency is in the kernel options? ive got 100, 250 and 1000 mhz...
[01:34] <cwillu> rob138; your problem however will now be that resolv.conf gets overwritten by dhcpd everytime it renews the lease :)
[01:34] <mettallicat> i'm trying to do something by ssh
[01:34] <rob138> oh thats not good
[01:34] <rob138> heh
[01:34] <cwillu> lol
[01:34] <Nwallins> Toma-: watching that go down taught me about the perils of complacency
[01:34] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i know how to download it, i was just wondering if a package for it already exists on ubuntu, or if i need to compile it from source, and if i will be missing any more trivial packages after that...
[01:34] <silvaran> 100 = low latency, 1000 = high throughput, 250 = somewhere in between :)
[01:34] <brenner> is there a specific package that fixes the password flaw?  i'm on dialup and would like to try and minimise the amount od d/loading i need to do (updates are currently ~65mb)
[01:34] <rob138> is there a fix?
[01:34] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: w00t, i dont know that pop3 thing, but im sure there will be info in syslog or you need to do some configuratin
[01:34] <abhorsen> Just got a different error: LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
[01:35] <brenner> s/od/of
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[01:35] <mettallicat> i've tried forums but no solve for that
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138;  there's a line
[01:35] <Toma-> silvaran: i see. i just enabled preempt, so should i go the whole she-bang and go 100?
[01:35] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i just dont understand why these packages werent installed initially, you need those to compile pretty much anything...
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>;
[01:35] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Hmmm, I've just found the problem while grepping for popa3d in syslog... Bad file permissions... :( (sorry!)
[01:35] <rob138> that line is #'d
[01:35] <cwillu> rob138; uncomment it and change <IP_ADDRESS> to your dns server
[01:35] <UNiXWHoRe> ubuntu is very nice and smooth, but its missing a LOT of key packages...
[01:35] <cwillu> yep, it'll override what the dhcp client passes you
[01:35] <bimberi> brenner: the updates to passwd and base-config are the ones
[01:36] <bluefoxicy> http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/  Is anyone else offered a free ipod nano?!
[01:36] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: syslog rocks :)
[01:36] <bluefoxicy> >:|
[01:36] <cwillu> then if-down eth0 and if-up eth0, and see if everything still works
[01:36] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure!
[01:36] <Wizz_kidd> why is it saying my mp3 files are not audio streams
[01:36] <rob138> cwillu, is there a better way to do that? (i am on wlan0 btw)
[01:36] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Which packages do you miss?
[01:36] <brenner> bimberi: thanks
[01:36] <cwillu> rob138; host archive.ubuntu.com should not give you any warnings
[01:36] <bimberi> brenner: np :)
[01:36] <cwillu> rob138; it doesn't replace the entry, it just adds the hard coded one in front
[01:36] <abhorsen> INTELIKEY, ARE YOU THERE?
[01:36] <cwillu> so if it can't find that dns server, it'll fail over to whichever the dhcp provides
[01:37] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe pardon my saying so, but you prove that you don't know by the question you just asked.   if apt-cache finds it it is a ubuntu package.  and the reason that 'not all devel' packages (any really) are installed is because the base install would be over 6g
[01:37] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: i get some crappy advert *updated his hosts file*
[01:37] <Knorrie> abhorsen: guess he's awake now :D
[01:37] <rob138> but what will happen in four days, when i am going to be on a different wireless router?
[01:37] <cwillu> rob138; it's better than my usual fix (using a static address :)
[01:37] <abhorsen> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
[01:37] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: you know about tail -f?
[01:37] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: it doesnt, and please stop being an ass
[01:37] <brenner> hehe
[01:37] <Knorrie> abhorsen: press caps lock please
[01:37] <bluefoxicy> Toma-:  doesn't that violate sf.net policy
[01:37] <abhorsen> Sorry
[01:38] <cwillu> rob138; you could try playing around with the network-locations stuff, but I haven't played with that before
[01:38] <bluefoxicy> toma also wtf anjuta 2.0 is awesome look at the screenshats.
[01:38] <cwillu> rob138; the prepend line shouldn't break other providers
[01:38] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Sure, that's a handy one!
[01:38] <Knorrie> abhorsen: nice :)
[01:38] <Wizz_kidd> what package do i need ot get my mp3 fiels to work
[01:38] <cwillu> it just uses it first if its available, otherwise it'll use the dhcp provded one
[01:38] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: they might have been hacked
[01:38] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Do you know about 'grep -v' :)
[01:38] <silvaran> !tell Wizz_kidd about mp3
[01:38] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: and these BASIC devel packages are installed by default with pretty much any linux distro ou there, and i havent see any go over 1.5/2 gig
[01:38] <intelikey> abhorsen you have build-essential installed ?
[01:38] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sure
[01:38] <abhorsen> Unless it came with Kubuntu, I dont have it.
[01:38] <rob138> cwillu, Oh okay, i gotcha, should i bother using wifi-radar?
[01:39] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: qt-devel and ncurses-devel
[01:39] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, That's another precious tool sometimes...
[01:39] <bluefoxicy> Toma-:  doubtful.
[01:39] <abhorsen> *Ubuntu*
[01:39] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: mp3 fiels?
[01:39] <intelikey> devel packages are default install in what distro ?
[01:39] <cwillu> rob138; sorry, I don't know anything about that
[01:39] <Toma-> bluefoxicy: well email them
[01:39] <cwillu> rob138; my laptop doesn't like ubuntu :)
[01:39] <Toma-> intelikey: sourcemage :D
[01:39] <Knorrie> intelikey: gentoo? :)
[01:39] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: any that lets you choose development packages
[01:39] <cwillu> (hardware problems that windows copes with better)
[01:39] <rob138> mine barely does
[01:39] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, I'm not sure, but have you added 'universe' and 'multiverse' to your '-src' entries in sources.list?
[01:39] <intelikey> lol Toma-
[01:40] <akcom> how would I restart inetd (I need to enable tftpd, which I just installed).  i tried /etc/init.d/inetd restart and it said inetd was not found
[01:40] <abhorsen> what is build-essential?
[01:40] <rob138> how do i turn on private messages in XIRC
[01:40] <akcom> abhorsen, it is used for compiling applications
[01:40] <nalioth> !info build-essental
[01:40] <intelikey> but "lets you choose" hardly qualifies as default anyway.
[01:40] <akcom> includes gcc, g++ etc
[01:40] <Kyral> abhorsen, the GCC compiler and its friends
[01:40] <cwillu> akcom;  try a locate inet to see where it might be
[01:40] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope, where is that sources.list?
[01:40] <cwillu> akcom;  locate inetd that is
[01:40] <abhorsen> does it come with ubuntu, or do I have to get it online?
[01:40] <abhorsen> Im such a noob
[01:40] <brenner> rob: you need to register with nickserv
[01:40] <mikebot> can someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..
[01:41] <rob138> i am registered...
[01:41] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Man... Many many thanks for the great help. Now I have got something to study, the whole sasl process... I just need to know what we just did! :o)
[01:41] <bimberi> abhorsen: build-essential is on the CD, just not installed by default
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: as i said before, stop being an ass, please
[01:41] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:41] <Knorrie> abhorsen: if possible *always* use official ubuntu packages
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: i asked for help, not flames...
[01:41] <intelikey> abhorsen in a terminal type    sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:41] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarriorL thanks m8
[01:41] <silvaran> mikebot: Make sure the options column of /etc/fstab has "ro,umask=0222" for your ntfs entry.
[01:41] <cwillu> rob138; can you see me?
[01:41] <brenner> rob138: is the person your pm'ing registered too?
[01:41] <MeetThaFocker> Hi, can anyone tell me how to fix the password problem in ubuntu Breezy?  There is a file that actually has the root password listed, should I delete the file or just delete the password entry?
[01:41] <silvaran> There he is!
[01:41] <mikebot> silvaran, i haven't edited fstab at all...do i need to do that?
[01:41] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: i spend some hours to get this thing working, so i m happy i can help you
[01:42] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, You could try adding 'universe multiverse' right after 'main restricted' to your 'deb-src' entries and run 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'aptitude search packages-you-want'.
[01:42] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe if the little bit of light i gave caused flames  Stop hagnifying it.
[01:42] <silvaran> mikebot: TO keep the ro,umask=0222 settings between mounts, yes.
[01:42] <judgen> Where can i find the cool graphical tool for configuring ATI Remote wonder remotes found in distros like geekbox
[01:42] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, I understand that feeling. ;)
[01:42] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: sasl is not very well documented
[01:43] <wbarnes> can someone explain what purpose initrd serves
[01:43] <abhorsen> It is installing now
[01:43] <Knorrie> UltimateWarrior: the postfix docs (also on www.postfix.org) are reallly good
[01:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Yeah, you were right when you sais it was complicated.
[01:43] <silvaran> wbarnes: It's a miniature filesystem-in-a-file to serve as a launchpad for booting the system.  abbreviation for "initial ramdisk"
[01:43] <bimberi> MeetThaFocker: a fix has been released if you are up to date with updates.  The fixed packages are base-config and passwd
[01:43] <abhorsen> In terminal, it says its done, what now?
[01:43] <UltimateWarrior> Knorrie, Agreed. I just wanted to make sure I would install the whole thing in Ubuntu-way. :)
[01:44] <intelikey> wbarnes yes.  it provides the kernel with ext#fs support and you can not boot without it.
[01:44] <balu1> anyone here ever run a 3dfx voodoo card?
[01:44] <MeetThaFocker> bimberi Ok thanx
[01:44] <cafuego> Only a voodoo2
[01:44] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Keep in mind that sometimes package names aren't written like you'd expect. Make sure you try a few variations if you don't find them at the first time.
[01:44] <UNiXWHoRe> intelikey: please tell me why whenever someone asks for help in this so-called linux "community", hes called a newbie or flamed... i mean this is a fairly new linux distro, and i recompiled kernels countless times on RH, Slack, and Mandrake, i know how to do it, i just dont get why this distro seems so windows wannabe, hiding everything you need or want from linux..
[01:45] <mikebot> silvaran, i still can't access it
[01:45] <wbarnes> silvaran: why can't the kernel just boot directly.  both kernel and initrd are pointing to same device .... so it seems both should be able to access?
[01:45] <cafuego> if you have either of those, trash it and go buy a cheap nvidia card
[01:45] <cafuego> it'll 1) work and 2) be about 1000% faster
[01:45] <balu1> hmm nah.. any 3dfx voodoo3s??? (2000 if possible)
[01:45] <mikebot> silvaran, right now it is this in ftasb: /dev/hdb5       /media/f:ntfs     ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,umask=0222        0       0
[01:45] <Protocol1> cafuego, holy cow voodoo cards are pretty old.....
[01:46] <cafuego> Protocol1: only a decade or so ;-)
[01:46] <Protocol1> i remember having one back in 97
[01:46] <NCLife> to get for example a realplayer movie to work, i need the w32codecs installed right? to install them is the guide given at wiki still up to date?
[01:46] <silvaran> wbarnes: It can... but to make things as general as possible, core drivers (for scsi, ide, etc.) are put in the initrd.  Then it grabs that initrd on bootup (using very simple disk access code), and loads whatever it needs from the initrd to access the rest of the system.  It's a conservative approach to the chicken-and-egg problem of needing a hard disk driver off a hard disk to access a hard disk :)
[01:46] <abhorsen> What now, it still wont install, and in terminal, I did what you said.
[01:47] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, The Ubuntu-way-of-life tries to get the best out of the abstraction layers the distro implements. This is vital for administration purposes.
[01:47] <Protocol1> so April 20th is the launch date for dapper?
[01:47] <dcode> I just bought this Intel SRCS28X serial ATA raid controller to drop in my ubuntu file server, and I found that the card doesn't fit in my PCI slot.  The card is PCI-X but backwards compatitable with 32-bit PCI
[01:47] <brenner> NCLife: w32codecs don't cover realmedia files iirc
[01:47] <rukuartic> !seen Seveas
[01:47] <ubotu> seveas is currently on #ubuntu+1 (49m 53s) #ubuntu-offtopic (49m 53s) #ubuntu (49m 53s)
[01:47] <ssam> Protocol1, yes, if its not delayed (we'll find out tomorrow)
[01:47] <dcode> my friend told me that it works in older PCI slots if you turn it around...is that true?
[01:47] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Slackware is great, and it's surely the best distro to do things 'by hand'. Ubuntu tries to abstract many things to make everything more scalable, upgradable, etc.
[01:47] <mikebot> hrm
[01:47] <mikebot> can someone help me: i unmounted then remounted an ntfs partition, and now i can't access it..
[01:47] <dcode> I think it would fit
[01:48] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: at the cost of flexibility...
[01:48] <brenner> mikebot: weren't you having this problem yesterday?
[01:48] <Protocol1> ssam, i see
[01:48] <intelikey> UNiXWHoRe i can't answer that.  i neither coded nor packaged any part of ubuntu,  i agree completely that it is a windows wanabeee   the answer i got on that was that it is made for the windows users first step into linux.   as to being called .... or flamed    if you stop wareing your feelings on your shirt sleve, people wont destrub them near as much.
[01:48] <Protocol1> cool
[01:48] <mikebot> brenner, yeah, it was never resolved
[01:48] <ssam> Protocol1, mark shuttleworth has suggested a 6week delay to get everything highly polished
[01:48] <brenner> mikebot: pastebin /etc/fstab
[01:48] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, It's not 'Windows-like' though, since it keeps everything open and it's not so difficult to understand how things work.
[01:48] <mikebot> brenner, okay
[01:48] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, as a newbie that i am, how would u compare ubuntu with say, Mandriva? I have both distros installed now.  Which is more "newb friendly?"  Mandrivia seems to be slightly moreso to me
[01:48] <mikebot> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:48] <Protocol1> ssam, thats ok.....the more stable the better
[01:48] <silvaran> Shoot what's the name of that vnc viewer for gnome?  vino or something?
[01:48] <NCLife> brenner, uh. is it impossible to watch them on ubuntu then?
[01:49] <abhorsen> Is this the last thing that is supposed to be displayed? Setting up build-essential (11.1) ...
[01:49] <rukuartic> Does anyone know about #shadowserver and SoBe-?
[01:49] <mikebot> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10152
[01:49] <ssam> Protocol1, indeed, and the adventurous can help do the final testing, there shouldnt be any serious bugs left by april
[01:49] <intelikey> abhorsen yeah
[01:49] <shiv> how do I know which version of gnome do I have?
[01:49] <dcode> can someone help me?  Is it possible to get a PCI-X card into a PCI slot by turning it around?
[01:49] <dcode> (and it works)
[01:49] <shiv> I got it
[01:49] <brenner> NCLife: no.  you just need to install realplayer
[01:49] <Protocol1> yeah
[01:49] <abhorsen> then now what do I do?
[01:49] <rukuartic> dcode: Probably a bad idea :P
[01:49] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: I still wish a future release would include development packages, maybe not install them by default, but at least include them...
[01:49] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, I think everybody has a distro that fits best their needs and that's a very personal choice. I haven't tried Mandriva yet, so I couldn't try to comment on it. But I really think Ubuntu is a great distro for beginners, all of my family (all ages) use it at home.
[01:50] <dcode> :-(
[01:50] <Knorrie> rukuartic: sounds like botnets and so
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, now here's the thing...it's hdb5 that i can't access..and yesterday it worked, but i wanted to change the name from hdb5 to f:ntfs, so i unmounted it from hdb5 and mounted it on f:ntfs
[01:50] <brenner> NCLife: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:50] <Toma-> if i build a kernel for k8, will i break my 32-bit system?
[01:50] <dcode> why doesn't anything ever work out for me :'-(
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, and now it says i can't access it
[01:50] <UNiXWHoRe> I mean, its pretty complete, but it's not linux if its not customizable...
[01:50] <rukuartic> Knorrie: Yea... Can you answer a few questions for me? No, its not about getting back :P
[01:50] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, So you couldn't find the packages even after adding 'universe multiverse'?
[01:50] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, Well I suggest trying Mandriva.  I really like it, and it gives you the choice of Gnomne or KDE or Xfce or others
[01:50] <NCLife> brenner, okay. So, ill install the w32codecs anyway in case i need them later. Is the faq provided at the wiki reliable?
[01:50] <dcode> thnx rukuartic
[01:50] <brenner> mikebot: did you create /media/f:ntfs ?
[01:50] <engla> with gnome/metacity, is there a way to create a "temporary workspace" on-the-go.. like you press some magic combo and you make a fifth workspace, even if you use 4 by default
[01:50] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: didnt check yet, just added it, was busy talking... :)
[01:50] <mikebot> brenner, yeah
[01:51] <brenner> NCLife: yes.  it's the official wiki
[01:51] <silvaran> UNiXWHoRe: apt-cache stats... I've almost 24,000 packages available.
[01:51] <engla> I don't want it to stay until next login
[01:51] <abhorsen> intelikey: what do I do next?
[01:51] <mikebot> brenner, and when i mounted it on that, i got the fodler on my desktop..but when i try to open it i get the error:
[01:51] <NCLife> brenner, thanks!
[01:51] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Ubuntu also gives you that choice. You can easily get a complete KDE or Xfce solution by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' or 'xubuntu-desktop'.
[01:51] <intelikey> try what ever you were trying that brought us to that point,  again    abhorsen  :)
[01:51] <mikebot> brenner, The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "f:ntfs".
[01:51] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, yeah but I am on dial-up and am not downloading KDE, which is probably 100 or more MBs
[01:52] <abhorsen> I did, no change, unfortunatly
[01:52] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Please try it, I'm almost sure you'll find them! :)
[01:52] <Knorrie> rukuartic: i read some article about an irc conversation with a teenager involved in running botnets some days ago
[01:52] <Wizz_kidd> how do you install .deb again :P
[01:52] <UNiXWHoRe> okay synaptic is downloading new package info now...
[01:52] <MeetThaFocker> Of course, I do have KDE 3.5 on a DVD but have no idea how to compile and install it
[01:52] <silvaran> Wizz_kidd: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[01:52] <brenner> mikebot: well, the fstab options are ok
[01:52] <Wizz_kidd> thanks again :p
[01:52] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: seems to work, thanks again man...
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z WARNING: LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <abhorsen> 2006-03-14T00:52:18Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
[01:52] <MeetThaFocker> Mandriva comes with KDE and Gnome on the CD
[01:52] <brenner> mikebot: do you get that when you dbl-click on the icon?
[01:52] <shiv> how do i upgrade to gnome 2.14? is it advisable?
[01:52] <fiendskull9> hello
[01:52] <mikebot> brenner, yes
[01:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell abhorsen about paste
[01:52] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim located?
[01:53] <nalioth> shiv: join #ubuntu+1 to discuss gnome 2.14
[01:53] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Got it. I must admit I only switched to Ubuntu after getting my ADSL connection. Before that I had to compile my winmodem drivers by hand and used Slackware. But you can also get the Kubuntu CD, which provides KDE.
[01:53] <Toma-> Ive got a 64-bit cpu on a 32bit system, if i build a kernel with K8/64bit processor family, will it break my 32bit system?
[01:53] <abhorsen> sorry, wont happen again
[01:53] <MeetThaFocker> Man its been years since I have been on IRC, this is the first channel I came to tonight that people were actually TALKING
[01:53] <intelikey> abhorsen one line pastes are tolerated very well here    but do not flood.
[01:53] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, No problem, man!
[01:53] <abhorsen> like I said, wont happen again
[01:53] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim?
[01:54] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, I am on dial-up and 14.4K at that.  Why? because I am not paying Linuxant.com for the "full version" of my drivers...I wish I could find a hack.
[01:54] <engla> MeetThaFocker: you'll find that there is too much talk here, it moves too fast
[01:54] <bimberi> engla: not that i know of, but you add more new workspaces by right-clicking on the switcher applet and selecting Preferences, Number of Workspaces
[01:54] <fiendskull9> please send answer to my question through pm
[01:54] <silvaran> MeetThaFocker: Same here, I just joined yesterday after a 5-6 year hiatus :)
[01:54] <fiendskull9> agaqin
[01:54] <fiendskull9> q is
[01:54] <abhorsen> what now, intelikey?
[01:54] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: why not? did linux cost too much to buy? :)
[01:54] <fiendskull9> where is the install path to gaim located?
[01:54] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Have you tried the Smartlink drivers? Those were the best drivers I could find when I had to struggle with my now-disabled winmodem!
[01:54] <engla> bimberi: of course. I'd like a solution with some flow.. guess I need a cooler wm than metacity for that
[01:54] <brenner> mikebot: can you access it thru terminal?
[01:54] <^Odd^> whats the command to set up lm-sensors for the first time?
[01:54] <intelikey> abhorsen what do you mean what now ?   i didn't see any error message ?
[01:55] <NCLife> mh, got another question. Im experiencing jerky dvd playback. I've already enabled the DMA transfer, is there another thing i could do to avoid this?
[01:55] <silvaran> fiendskull9: dpkg -L gaim will list files.
[01:55] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, no I have not, do they work with Conexant HCF winmodems?
[01:55] <bimberi> engla: kk
[01:55] <engla> Still for me, it's dissapointing that workspaces in os x > workspaces in gnome
[01:55] <bpuccio> what's do I have to delete in .evolution to get rid of the IMAP cache, but not clobber all my settings, filters, etc?
[01:55] <abhorsen> It was the same error message
[01:55] <mikebot> brenner, do i just cd /media/f:ntfs?
[01:55] <intelikey> abhorsen notice     warning != error
[01:55] <brenner> mikebot: yes
[01:55] <UNiXWHoRe> hehehe
[01:55] <abhorsen> LLDir_Linux not fully implemented!
[01:55] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, I don't agree with forcing people to pay for hardware they ALREADY own.  that's what linuxant does.
[01:55] <OmegaAlpha> hello all, i was wondering is someone knew of a data recovery program to use from a partition screwup
[01:56] <intelikey> abhorsen that is a warning, not an error.
[01:56] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: theyre giving you support for a devious peice of hardware. reverse engineering something like a winmodem is no easy task. throwing them a little bit of money isnt evil.
[01:56] <abhorsen> then what does it mean, it still isnt installed, is it?
[01:56] <mikebot> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10153
[01:57] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, yeah but if there is an alternative to their driver, I will gladly resist giving up my money.
[01:57] <silvaran> Toma-: I suspect it's more of a personal preference than an ethical dilemma... paying one company to make up for another company's shortcomings.
[01:57] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, That's one of the modems I have had in the past and I can't remember it right, but I think it's worth a try!
[01:57] <^Odd^> anyone know what the configure command to set up lm-sensors
[01:57] <MeetThaFocker> UltimateWarrior, have a link?
[01:57] <intelikey> abhorsen it's telling you that that function is not going to be used.     i have no idea what the function will or wont do but the program should work.
[01:57] <UltimateWarrior> MeetThaFocker, Just a minute and I'll see if I can find some useful information from my past experiences!
[01:58] <Toma-> hmm k. anyway, who would wanna support linux anyway.
[01:58] <MeetThaFocker> Toma, I would think designing and developing KDE is no easy task, yet I don't see them setting up a paypal account on their website
[01:58] <Toma-> MeetThaFocker: they still make a pretty penny.
[01:58] <intelikey> abhorsen in linux   no error    generally means  no error.
[01:59] <abhorsen> well, The program has not launched, is there something i have to do to make the program RUN?
[01:59] <abhorsen> Im sorry, Im used to the windows point and click
[01:59] <intelikey> abhorsen probably  what program are you installing there ?
[01:59] <mikebot> brenner, any idea?
[01:59] <seren> anyone know when flight-5 kubuntu iso will be released?
[02:00] <blrich> can anyone help? having trouble starting kde because of ICE/DCOP not working. there's something wrong with my host. I can't even sudo on the command line, because it says 'cannot lookup <myhostname> - loclahost via gethostbyname()'
[02:00] <abhorsen> it is just a game, but Ive been having problems installing a number of programs.
[02:00] <abhorsen> it is called second life
[02:00] <brenner> mikebot: ls -l /media | grep ntfs
[02:00] <intelikey> abhorsen and did you follow the instruvtions provided by it's author ?
[02:00] <mikebot> brenner, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 f:ntfs
[02:01] <blrich> my host seems to be r00ted but this is all after a bad reset, so i don't know what could have happened.
[02:01] <techrush> not to but in here as im not all that familiar with your problem abhorsen but i believe second life for linux is still in alpha stages
[02:01] <nickrud> blrich, your hostname doesn't match what's in /etc/hosts ; type  hostname && cat /etc/hostname | head -1
[02:01] <abhorsen> It is, but Ive had errors and problems with a number of programs, such ass WINE and others
[02:01] <intelikey> abhorsen if it was a source package (file.tar.gz)  look for any files in the unpacked directory that are all caps.   README  INSTALL ...
[02:02] <brenner> mikebot: you should be able to read it.  i don't know to be honest.  you stumped me.
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> bleh
[02:02] <UltimateWarrior> Does anyone know if the '/notice' irc command is client or server based?
[02:02] <Toma-> hmmm. do i need to build this kernel with initrd or no initrd? that is the question...
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: doesnt work
[02:02] <UNiXWHoRe> apt-cache stats still gives me only about 1500 packages
[02:02] <mikebot> brenner, heh okay
[02:02] <brenner> could someone help mikebot access his ntfs partition?  his ftsab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10152.  his error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10153
[02:02] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Damn, I wanted to leave a note for MeetThaFocker
[02:03] <mikebot> brenner, ah thank oyu
[02:03] <blrich> nickrud: it comes out as richcorp localhost richcorp
[02:03] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: mind sending me a copy of your sources.list?
[02:03] <nickrud> blrich, how about pasting just the first line of /etc/hosts
[02:03] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: im starting to think it might be broken
[02:03] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Just a second!
[02:03] <FlannelKing> UltimateWarrior: you can leave him a message via MemoServ
[02:03] <Toma-> UNiXWHoRe: what are you looking for?
[02:03] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Does anyone know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:04] <UltimateWarrior> FlannelKing, Hmmm... Thanks!
[02:04] <abhorsen> forget second life.  I need help installing WINE
[02:04] <UNiXWHoRe> Toma-: ncurses-devel and qt-devel
[02:04] <blrich> nickrud: the thing was, this problem was happening before when my /etc/hosts was <IP_ADDRESS> loclahost, <IP_ADDRESS> richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp. so i got rid of the second entry, fixed things up, this is still happening tho
[02:04] <abhorsen> Can you help me with that?
[02:04] <Toma-> djs_2_6: acidrip does it for me
[02:04] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Please pvt msg me.
[02:04] <Toma-> UNiXWHoRe: i just installed "ncurses-dev"
[02:04] <Toma-> for qt, i imagine its qt-dev
[02:04] <djs_2_6> Toma- - Does that work with already ripped dvd files?
[02:04] <Toma-> djs_2_6: nope
[02:04] <mwe> how can you know what package a specific file belongs to?
[02:05] <Toma-> djs_2_6: like, vobs?
[02:05] <UNiXWHoRe> Toma-: except synaptic or apt doesnt find it...
[02:05] <djs_2_6> Toma- - Yep
[02:05] <Toma-> quirky
[02:05] <nickrud> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp <--- make it look something like that blrich
[02:05] <Toma-> !info ncurses-dev
[02:05] <Toma-> whaaat
[02:05] <nickrud> info libncurses5-dev
[02:05] <nickrud> 1info libncurses5-dev
[02:05] <Unity> lol
[02:05] <brenner> mikebot: you *could* try and change the fstab option to just: umask=0222
[02:05] <Toma-> !info libncurses-dev
[02:05] <nickrud> !info libncurses5-dev
[02:06] <Unity> you ok there nickrud ?
[02:06] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: (Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 5.4-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 1218 kB, Installed size: 5656 kB
[02:06] <brenner> mikebot: that's what the starter guide in the help menu says to use
[02:06] <Toma-> ahh :/ thx nickrud
[02:06] <bimberi> hoo-ray!
[02:06] <nickrud> I dropped my cigarette, and paniced
[02:06] <mikebot> brenner, okay, i'll try that
[02:06] <Toma-> ahh well
[02:06] <Toma-> bbl
[02:06] <^Odd^> so does anyone know what the command to configure lm-sensors is?
[02:07] <Kyral> sensors-detect
[02:07] <mikebot> brenner, so tak away fmask and dmask?
[02:07] <Toma-> ^Odd^: sensors-detect
[02:07] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:07] <beppe> salve a tutte......sono nuovo....ma credo di essere nel posto sbagliato
[02:07] <noce_br> !it
[02:07] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:07] <abhorsen> can you help me install WINE intelikey?  You have been very helpful so far
[02:07] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: crap, server doesnt accept privates unless registered
[02:07] <Toma-> djs_2_6: anything that uses mencoder will do
[02:08] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Damn!
[02:08] <mikebot> brenner, same error...it may have somethign to do witht he fact that i partioned this in windows using partition magic?
[02:08] <beppe> ok....... sorry........
[02:08] <intelikey> abhorsen sudo apt-get install wine
[02:08] <tomypreach> hi all -
[02:08] <noce_br> djs_2_6: try dvdrip for ripping dvds into avis
[02:08] <brenner> mikebot: everything except umask=0222
[02:08] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Let's see what happens if I...
[02:08] <intelikey> abhorsen it's in the repos
[02:08] <tomypreach> i need a divx player ? do any of you know a good one ?
[02:08] <raph> vlc
[02:08] <djs_2_6> noce_br - Thanks, but I already have some ripped dvds that I need to convert...
[02:08] <mikebot> brenner, ah okay
[02:09] <noce_br> djs_2_6: ripped into what? .vob files?
[02:09] <bimberi> !tell abhorsen about wine
[02:09] <djs_2_6> noce_br - Yep
[02:09] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: ill try and ctcp you my e-mail adress, hold on...
[02:09] <tomypreach> is there an installer for it ? :-(
[02:09] <mikebot> brenner, same error...all i'm doing is saving fstab then trying to open it again--i don't have to restart or anything, right?
[02:09] <blrich> nickrud: should i do the same for the second line with the <IP_ADDRESS> ip?
[02:09] <tomypreach> hey mike
[02:09] <brenner> mikebot: you have to remount!
[02:09] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, I'm trying to DCC chat you... Did you get any request?
[02:09] <brenner> mikebot: sudo mount -a
[02:09] <UNiXWHoRe> got it?
[02:10] <intelikey> abhorsen  wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     wine-utils - Windows Emulator (Utilities)     wine-doc - Windows Emulator (Documentation)     winesetuptk - Windows Emulator (Configuration and Setup Tool)   <--- they are all in the repos.
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, nope. :(
[02:10] <PuppiesOnAcid> The proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> bleh
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Do you have ICQ?
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, ahhh
[02:10] <tomypreach> bababooey ?
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, okay, let me try
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: nope, msn
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> ironic, isnt it?
[02:10] <sadok> wassup?
[02:10] <nickrud> blrich, I don't know, I've just seen your error before. I run from real network problems
[02:10] <UNiXWHoRe> lol
[02:10] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Hmmm... Yahoo! Messenger? :)
[02:10] <Wizz_kidd> wtf lol my bad one more time someone ........how do you install .deb packages my comp restarting
[02:10] <sadok> dude ubuntu is awsome
[02:10] <blrich> nickrud: as do i
[02:10] <mikebot> brenner, same thing
[02:10] <sadok> ubuntu rules!!!
[02:11] <blrich> nickrud: oh well thanks for your help =)
[02:11] <UltimateWarrior> UNiXWHoRe, Sorry, I don't have an MSM account... (and proud of it! :D )
[02:11] <tomypreach> What do i do - if i wanna install vlc ?
[02:11] <brenner> mikebot: damn
[02:11] <bimberi> UNiXWHoRe, UltimateWarrior: just make your own channel - /j #unixwarrior (or the like)
[02:11] <raph> apt-get install vlc
[02:11] <sadok> i wanna get red hat though
[02:11] <tomypreach> okey
[02:11] <nickrud> blrich, make that change to /etc/hosts, it'll fix the sudo problem. You may need to boot into recovery mode, if sudo's broken
[02:11] <intelikey> abhorsen   man apt-cache       apt-cache  is your friend.
[02:11] <UNiXWHoRe> UltimateWarrior: yeah join me on privatetest
[02:11] <UltimateWarrior> bimberi, LOL!! :D
[02:11] <mikebot> brenner, =/
[02:11] <bimberi> :P
[02:12] <vars> blender rocks you should check it out
[02:12] <brenner> mikebot: what about the script found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[02:12] <abhorsen> ok thanks for the help!!!
[02:12] <mikebot> brenner, i'll install it, one second
[02:12] <svu> what is the correct way to enable automatical beagle startup on ubuntu? just putting beagled into the session?
[02:12] <bimberi> UltimateWarrior, UNiXWHoRe: I did think that was better than #ultimatewhore :P
[02:13] <PuppiesOnAcid> The proprietary nVidia drivers are the nvidia-glx, correct?
[02:13] <intelikey> brenner mikebot not to but in but you should comment out the lines in fstab that pretain to ntfs before running that script.
[02:13] <nickrud> mikebot, brenner mount -a doesn't remount ; umount the disk directly then remount to test
[02:13] <shiftoi> damn, i can't find any player to read my ape tags properly
[02:13] <brenner> intelikey, nickrud : thanks guys
[02:13] <vars> shiftoi, what is an ape tag?
[02:13] <UltimateWarrior> bimberi, ROTFLMAO!!
[02:13] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:14] <vars> mplayer
[02:14] <balu1> anyone ever get a 3dfx voodoo3 direct rendering to work?
[02:14] <djs_2_6> tritium - I linke your Sn.  Any particular reason?
[02:14] <nickrud> balu1, sure did
[02:14] <shiftoi> ape is the tagging format for monkeys audio files, and a few other formats
[02:14] <enyc> meep
[02:14] <balu1> nickrud: NO WAY NICK
[02:14] <brenner> nickrud: gee, the help menu entry is misleading then: "How do I remount /etc/fstab without rebooting? sudo mount -a"
[02:14] <balu1> nickrud: please share your heavenly knowledge.
[02:14] <tritium> djs_2_6: thanks.  A few reasons, one of which is I'm from Albuquerque, and our baseball team (from the Simpsons) is the Isotopes.
[02:15] <mikebot> okay so wait, what should i do
[02:15] <mikebot> i'm going to change that ntfs back to umask, then unmount and mount it
[02:15] <djs_2_6> tritium - Ah.  I always was fascinated with the experiments that scientists had been trying with Deuterium and Tritium...
[02:16] <tritium> djs_2_6: agreed
[02:16] <brenner> nickrud: do you want to take over? :)
[02:16] <nickrud> brenner, from the man page: -a     Mount all filesystems (of the given types) mentioned in fstab.
[02:16] <balu1> djs_2_6: u like fusion/fission concepts huh?
[02:16] <Protocol1> is the a way I can get win32 codecs onto mplayer?
[02:16] <UltimateWarrior> Ok, great people... Gotta plat at least one 'coin' of WWF Superstars on xmame before going to bed! :D See ya!
[02:16] <bimberi> :)
[02:16] <Protocol1> or for it?
[02:16] <tritium> bimberi: :)
[02:16] <nickrud> balu1, I wrote it up, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Vodoo3doesnotdo3D
[02:16] <balu1> nickrud: um ;x that didnt work for me?
[02:16] <djs_2_6> balu1 - Yeah, for what my little brain can comprehend of them...
[02:17] <nickrud> balu1, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on a pastebin for me
[02:17] <balu1> nickrud: xserver just dosnt start up on the voodoo.conf.accel
[02:17] <brenner> mikebot: what options line are you going back to?
[02:17] <balu1> nickrud: k will do.
[02:17] <balu1> !pastebin
[02:17] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:17] <mike_> i just  got linux and i need to know a audio plugin to play audio files
[02:17] <mikebot> brenner, umask=0222
[02:17] <tomypreach> hmm - cant install it - damn
[02:17] <UNiXWHoRe> bimberi: ROFL
[02:17] <brenner> mikebot: didn't you try that already?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> mike_: Specifically?
[02:18] <mike_> well mp3 files
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: tell mike_ about mp3
[02:18] <insidious|zzz> so what time is the discussion tomorrow?
[02:18] <mikebot> brenner, but they said that that i can't just do mount -a, but have to unmount then remount
[02:18] <nickrud> brenner, mount -o remount /dev/hda5  is remounting (I did have to look it up again ;)
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> mike_: The link from ubotu should get you started.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Oops.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell mike about mp3
[02:19] <Toma-> mike_: xmms will play mp3's and look good doing it
[02:19] <mike_> ok thx
[02:19] <brenner> mikebot: ah, ok.  then yeah, follow nickrud's syntax
[02:19] <nickrud> except I got hda5 there , a typo
[02:19] <mikebot> nickrud, brenner, okay, i can open the ntfs now, except it doesn't display any of the files
[02:19] <mikebot> brenner, nickrud, this is with only the umask=0222 line
[02:20] <brenner> nickrud: hence the "follow his syntax", not "use the command" ;)
[02:20] <engla> I wonder... what is gam_server? Is beagled running that?
[02:20] <nickrud> mike-e, ls /media/f:ntfs -d , what permissions
[02:20] <mikebot> nickrud, it displayed this: /media/f:ntfs
[02:20] <nickrud> engla, that's what gnome uses to watch for general file changes, it's how nautilus knows to refresh it's windows
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of a gui frontend to ntfsresize?
[02:20] <brenner> mikebot: you did use /dev/hdb5 right?
[02:20] <mikebot> brenner, yeah
[02:21] <mikebot> brenner, hehe
[02:21] <nickrud> mikebot, sorry, ls -l /media/f:ntfs -d
[02:21] <brenner> ok, just asking :)
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: I always kind of wondered how it did that...it's just so cool that way.
[02:21] <mikebot> nickrud, dr-x------  1 root root 28672 2006-03-12 15:48 /media/f:ntfs
[02:21] <antisocial_boris> what's this i hear about any user being able to find the first registered user's password?
[02:22] <Unity> !installerbug
[02:22] <ubotu> A fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.
[02:22] <nickrud> mike-e, you still haven't got the access right. cd / && umount /media/hdb5 && ls /media/hdb5 -ld
[02:22] <brenner> tonyyarusso: can't the parted utilities do that?
[02:22] <engla> nickrud: you sure? I've never seen it running like it does now.. grabbing lots of memory
[02:22] <lull> antisocial_boris: i suppose we know the answer to the age old question "got root?"
[02:22] <jean> whats a gmail fs?
[02:22] <engla> nickrud: how do I find out what the "parent" of this process is?
[02:22] <nickrud> engla, yeah, it screws up sometimes, just type killall gam_server in a terminal, it'll reset
[02:22] <balu1> Nickrud:  This is my noaccel:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10155        ::::: and This is my ACCEL  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10154
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Not to my knowledge anyway.  They make some overtures like they're thinking about it, but don't quite pull through.  G anway, maybe QT works?...
[02:23] <lull> engla: `pstree` is a neat display of the process hierarchy.
[02:23] <engla> nickrud: hehe okay. I love that kind of robustness
[02:23] <engla> lull: ooh. New command to me, great, I love good commands
[02:23] <blrich> can someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start
[02:23] <mikebot> nickrud, after unmounting: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-02-27 13:17 /media/hdb5
[02:23] <blrich> i'm in a major bind
[02:23] <brenner> tonyyarusso: dunno.  just a stab
[02:24] <nickrud> mikebot, then put your current fstab up again :)
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Wait, maybe it just requires the suggested package, let me check something.
[02:24] <mike_> whats the universal codec for playing audio files
[02:24] <lull> antisocial_boris: it's not letting me PM you.
[02:24] <mikebot> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[02:24] <engla> lull: sadly most of the applications are started by "initng", that doesn't give that much information. Neat command anyway
[02:24] <mikebot> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10157
[02:24] <engla> nickrud: thanks
[02:24] <balu1> nickrud:  ps , when i ran the reconfigure xserver, i had to enter alot of stuff manually.. so i may have mssed up there..: x
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> hfs is mac's filesystem, right?
[02:25] <lull> tonyyarusso: yup
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> 'k.
[02:25] <blrich> can someone help? having a problem with ICEauthority/DCOP and kde won't start
[02:25] <bimberi> jean: lets you use your dmail account as a filesystem
[02:25] <mike_> wats the universal codec for playing music files
[02:25] <bimberi> *gmail
[02:25] <lull> blrich: did you try running dexconf ?
[02:25] <Wizz_kidd> how do i install .debs ??????
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> whats the terminal command ?
[02:26] <bimberi> !deb
[02:26] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:26] <engla> mike_: there is no universial codec. But there are some packages that keep track of mostly all of them
[02:26] <brenner> mike_: there isn't a codec for everything.
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> thanks
[02:26] <brenner> Wizz_kidd: what are you installing?
[02:26] <mike_> i just need one for common audio files like mp3
[02:26] <Wizz_kidd> Opera
[02:26] <bimberi> Wizz_kidd: np
[02:26] <LinuxJones> blrich: delete the .iceauthority file using sudo and then re-login
[02:26] <jean> bimberi: did u try it?
[02:26] <blrich> lull: no whats that?
[02:26] <nickrud> mikebot, try the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10158
[02:26] <brenner> mike_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <jean> !tell gmailfs
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones: did that, hasn't worked
[02:27] <mikebot> nickrud, so mount hdb5 again?
[02:27] <nickrud> mikebot, yes.
[02:27] <bimberi> jean: no i haven't, nice idea, not sure about the privacy though
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones lull I also can't sudo because it says it can't lookup my host
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> brenner: That did it.  I just didn't have the extra part because it was suggested and not a dependancy.
[02:27] <LinuxJones> blrich: you re-started the login manager after deleting the file ?
[02:27] <blrich> LinuxJones: lull but i haven't changed the /etc/hosts file
[02:27] <brenner> mikebot: lol. waasn't that your original fstab?
[02:27] <nickrud> balu1, still looking :)
[02:27] <nickrud> a good one :)
[02:27] <balu1> nickrud: ya dont worry :) take ur time.. ill occupy myself with super mario world
[02:27] <engla> mike_: for mp3, it's "gstreamer0.8-mad" but you could just get all of "gstreamer0.8-plugins" and "gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse"
[02:28] <blrich> LinuxJones: yep, del'd everything, del'd the .DCOPserver files, del'd .kde/tmp* and socket* and so on, del'd /tmp/*
[02:28] <blrich> LinuxJones: nothing seems to work
[02:28] <_jason> blrich: pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[02:28] <brenner> tonyyarusso: so qtparted works?
[02:28] <LinuxJones> blrich: do it from a virtual terminal (ie ctrl + alt + F3) once you delete the file /etc/init.d/gdm restart then login normally
[02:28] <blrich> _jason: can i msg them to you? they're only 2 lines
[02:28] <Salah> does 3D work with Intel graphic chipsets in Ubuntu?
[02:28] <mikebot> brenner, i don't know hehe
[02:28] <_jason> blrich: just paste it here then
[02:28] <blrich> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[02:29] <zyth> Salah, only Mesa, not accelerated
[02:29] <blrich> <IP_ADDRESS> richcorp.richcorp.localhost richcorp
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> brenner: Yep; gparted too.
[02:29] <mikebot> nickrud, is it: sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/f:ntfs
[02:29] <Salah> zyth, what's the different?
[02:29] <zyth> Salah, mesa = all done in software = slow
[02:29] <trans_err> Is there any simple way to get faad (mp4) support into gstreamer0.10 (ie. in dapper)
[02:29] <nickrud> mikebot, since it's in the fstab, all you need is sudo mount /dev/hdb5
[02:29] <_jason> blrich: the first one is hostname I assume?
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, okay
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> What's the newest kernel for Breezy?
[02:30] <blrich> _jason: yep
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, ahhhhhhh
[02:30] <engla> mike_: tell us if it works or not later
[02:30] <Salah> zyth, how much is the difference between mesa and accelerated? :)
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, brenner, works thanks a bunch
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, thanks
[02:30] <brenner> nickrud: afaict, that was his original fstab.  why can he access the part. now and couldn't before?
[02:30] <_jason> blrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '/home/jasonr/docs/school/cse398/hw2.pdf
[02:30] <blrich> _jason: i'm worried i might have mangled some file iceauth or dcop uses, there was a bad reset and then this trouble started
[02:30] <nickrud> mikebot, if that fails , I have one last suggestion, which I"m gonna make anyway: get rid of the name f:ntfs, I can see that : touching off silly bugs
[02:30] <_jason> blrich: one sec, that was a typo :)
[02:30] <mikebot> nickrud, nono it works
[02:31] <brenner> well, actually, the original had an extra tab
[02:31] <mikebot> nickrud, thank you
[02:31] <nickrud> mikebot, somewhere else, somewhere
[02:31] <HymnToLife> question : how do I restart the network without rebooting ?
[02:31] <mikebot> nickrud, sorry?
[02:31] <_jason> blrich: change hostname to 'richcorp' all by itself and /etc/hosts to '<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost richcorp'.  That's what mine look like.  That should let you use sudo at least
[02:31] <djs_2_6> Anyone else know of a good app for breezy for converting dvd rips into avis or mpegs?
[02:31] <LinuxJones> blrich: the .iceauthority file will be re-created when you login to your system
[02:31] <zyth> Salah, let's just say, i wouldn't try playing any games ;)
[02:31] <HymnToLife> djs_2_6> avidemux
[02:31] <blrich> _jason: why not richcorp.localhost richcorp localhost?
[02:32] <nickrud> mikebot, I know it's a legal character for a directory name, but I cringe on some of the programming errors that will kick out
[02:32] <_jason> blrich: sure that will work too I suppose
[02:32] <mikebot> nickrud, even though it's working?
[02:32] <LinuxJones> djs_2_6: dvdrip or theoggen (but thoggen rips to .ogg and is painfully slow)
[02:32] <nickrud> mikebot, I'm talking about other programs using that dir, not the mounting of it.
[02:32] <mikebot> nickrud, ah okay...do i just edit fstab, then unmount and mount it?
[02:32] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones oh my *god* found problem - in my /etc/hostname i have richcorp<new line>localhost
[02:33] <nickrud> mikebot, that name is what caught my attention in the first place, and yes.
[02:33] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones so that explains that
[02:33] <LinuxJones> blrich: heh
[02:33] <mikebot> nickrud, okay..can i ask you one more question?
[02:33] <blrich> _jason LinuxJones thanks for your help, rebooting and fixing it now =P
[02:33] <zyth> Salah, is your system a notebook or a desktip?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> blrich: how did that happen ?
[02:33] <grout58> nickrud what was that command to mount the ext3?
[02:33] <nickrud> grout58, I was helping him with getting an ntfs partition readable by all
[02:33] <jmoncayo> what should i do so instead of typing <IP_ADDRESS> i only type for example linuxbox2
[02:33] <blrich> LinuxJones: my senile 54yo developer father stuffed it up on his new kubuntu system and i've been trying to fix it for an hour
[02:34] <flodine> anyone use mtail for there log files?
[02:34] <LinuxJones> blrich: haha
[02:34] <grout58> whats the command to mount hdb1?
[02:34] <blrich> LinuxJones: that would explain why the prompt always came up as user@richcorp<nl>localhost$
[02:34] <V4Vendetta> sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[02:34] <V4Vendetta> how do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?
[02:35] <LinuxJones> blrich: yeah your not from the Netherlands :)
[02:35] <mikebot> nickrud, for an ext3 partition, what are the options in fstab/
[02:35] <blrich> grout58: mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/<dir you want to mount it in>
[02:35] <nickrud> balu1, now, would you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log error from the acell
[02:35] <themachine> where can I configure programs for start-up?
[02:35] <ph1qt10n> i need to restore the GDM
[02:35] <blrich> LinuxJones: no <nl> = \n  newline i mean
[02:35] <ph1qt10n> im getting the ugly blue KDE KDM
[02:35] <nickrud> mikebot, pretty much all the same, except for the fmask & dmask
[02:35] <_jason> themachine: system > prefs > sessions > startup
[02:35] <Salah> zyth, my system is a notebook :)
[02:35] <jbeagley> How do I change the properties of my USB drive so users other than root can use it?
[02:35] <grout58> says cant find hdb1 in fstab or mtab
[02:35] <balu1> nickrud :x um.. how do i know its from my accel?
[02:35] <jmoncayo> what permission should I give to a *.jpg file so i can opened from the internet in my apache web server
[02:35] <mikebot> nickrud, just take those out?
[02:35] <LinuxJones> themachine: system > preferences > sessions > startup programs
[02:35] <zyth> Salah, ahh, no chance to upgrade the graphics then :(
[02:35] <V4Vendetta> jbeagley, sudo chmod 777 /mnt/point
[02:35] <LinuxJones> blrich: yeah I know that was a lame attempt at humour :P
[02:36] <Eleaf> Does anybody know of any dns servers?
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> how do i find out if i have the root password vulnerability?
[02:36] <blrich> LinuxJones: =P
[02:36] <zyth> 777? is that necessary? :P
[02:36] <Eleaf> V4Vendetta, try opening the file I guess?
[02:36] <nickrud> balu1, copy over the acell to x.org, then restart X. when it fails, save /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and send me that
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, what file is it?
[02:36] <Eleaf> uhh
[02:36] <Eleaf> /var/log/something...
[02:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell V4Vendetta about installerbug
[02:36] <Eleaf> I forgot it, somebody else here probably knows
[02:36] <Eleaf> yea thanks ;p
[02:36] <Drakeson> !visible password
[02:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Drakeson
[02:36] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:37] <grout58> is there a command where i can see all hd's in my comp even if there not monuted?
[02:37] <Eleaf> V4Vendetta, which one is that?
[02:37] <_jason> !installerbug
[02:37] <ubotu> A fix for the breezy installer password bug is out - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1.  The bug is described at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/34606.  If you haven't changed your initial user's password since installing then do so.
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> Eleaf, comcast
[02:37] <Eleaf> mmk
[02:37] <nickrud> mikebot, nah, those defaults are pretty much vetted
[02:37] <balu1> nickrud: sorry.. how would i save the log?
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> so
[02:37] <nekostar> hey
[02:37] <V4Vendetta> just changing my password fixes it?
[02:37] <Salah> zyth, anyways, thanks :) the nvidia drivers are better supported ;)
[02:37] <nekostar> k3b keeps complaining that it cant close dvd tray for verification on burns
[02:38] <nekostar> any clues as to what is REALLY going on?
[02:38] <brenner> grout58: you need to mount them to see them
[02:38] <MaRk182> hi guys
[02:38] <nickrud> balu1, just cp it to your home dir
[02:38] <mikebot> nickrud, sorry?
[02:38] <MaRk182> im having some problems with the nic
[02:38] <grout58> how do i find the name of the second drive?
[02:38] <Drakeson> has anybody decided how to handle the installer bug crisis? (or we are waiting for the crisis to happen then figure it ;)
[02:38] <nickrud> mikebot, I though you asked about ext3 changes
[02:38] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:38] <grout58> how do i find the name of the second drive?
[02:39] <brenner> V4Vendetta: well, someone told me to update passwd and base-config
[02:39] <MaRk182> its a intel 815 with pro/100 ve any help?+
[02:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell Drakeson about installerbug
[02:39] <V4Vendetta> brenner, how do i update base-config
[02:39] <mikebot> nickrud, yes
[02:39] <nickrud> grout58, sudo fdisk -l should tell you
[02:39] <mikebot> nickrud, what defaults are we talking about?
[02:39] <brenner> V4Vendetta: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install base-config
[02:39] <nickrud> mikebot, your fstab is excellent for what you have in it; enjoy
[02:39] <jean> do sempron 64bit systems require 64bit software?
[02:39] <zyth> jean, no they can run 32bit
[02:40] <Drakeson> bimberi: of course I know about it, I just meant if there will be any news break or so
[02:40] <brenner> V4Vendetta: i meant passwd the package btw
[02:40] <bimberi> Drakeson: a fix is out ...
[02:40] <jean> zyth: then why is this so flaky
[02:40] <zyth> jean, I have no idea what you mean
[02:40] <mikebot> nickrud, hehe okay thanks
[02:40] <Protocol1> my kernel updated today
[02:40] <purpleidea> !pastebin
[02:40] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:40] <MaRk182> its ubuntu having problems with intel pro/100 lan?
[02:40] <jean> stuff keeps crashing
[02:41] <mikebot> nickrud, wait, so just to make sure: /dev/hdb6       /media/fext3   ext3    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000        0       0
[02:41] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> does anyone know how to change a hostname from command line ?
[02:41] <zyth> MaRk182, never has for me.
[02:41] <grout58> i can see the hdb1 in fdisk but it says its not there when i try to mount it
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> brenner, got it, thanks
[02:41] <overrider> HymnToLife, man hostname
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> HymnToLife, sudo gedit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:41] <zyth> jean, which version of ubunutu are you using?
[02:41] <nickrud> mikebot, no, don't add those masks, i meant the available options where the same, not make them the same :)
[02:41] <HymnToLife> V4Vendetta> I did it, now the network won't restart
[02:41] <V4Vendetta> HymnToLife, hm... weird
[02:42] <concept10> Anyone need some server racks?
[02:42] <overrider> me
[02:42] <grout58> nickrud help!!!
[02:42] <_jason> HymnToLife: hostname command will do but you need to update /etc/hosts as well or you will lose the ability to sudo
[02:42] <zyth> concept10, you paying for shipping? ;) hehe.
[02:42] <mikebot> nickrud, no, nick, i'm sorry, i didn't explain...i'm adding an ext3 that wasn't in fstab yet, cause i hadn't added it yet, so i didn't know what to put for the options
[02:42] <concept10> zyth, no, thats the only problem, you could have em for free
[02:42] <nickrud> mikebot, what you were doing with those mask was applying a static permission to all the files in the partition; ext3 permissions are dynamic, so you don't need those entries
[02:42] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: busy?
[02:43] <MaRk182> zyth, is not installing the nic driver
[02:43] <jean> zyth: i386 upped to k7 breezy
[02:43] <zyth> concept10, hehe, the shipping cost alone would be nuts.  hehe. :)
[02:43] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: never
[02:43] <V4Vendetta> what kind of school do i go to when they ask you what the word diverse means
[02:43] <mikebot> nickrud, so i don't need any options?
[02:43] <V4Vendetta> Lmfao
[02:43] <jean> zyth: too many problems
[02:43] <nickrud> mikebot, all you need is 'defaults'
[02:43] <jean> zyth: its like why me zyth
[02:43] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: how do i restore the GDM
[02:43] <lewix> yop
[02:43] <mikebot> nickrud, oh okay, thanks
[02:43] <zyth> Jean, and you're not trying to run any 64bit software, right?
[02:43] <nickrud> mikebot, for your new ext3
[02:44] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm   ?
[02:44] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: didnt work
[02:44] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  ?
[02:44] <jean> zyth: no i havent
[02:44] <grout58> it says theres no /etc/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:44] <mikebot> nickrud, i don't have permission to write on it now...the new ext3
[02:44] <mikebot> nickrud, haha
[02:44] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: after i installed kubuntu desktop, when i turn my laptop on the blue GDM comes up from kubuntu
[02:45] <nickrud> mikebot, of course, you need to set the permissions :)
[02:45] <jean> zyth: i go away and programs i have running are just missing off the screen
[02:45] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: you are talking about the "splash screen" ?
[02:45] <mikebot> nickrud,  how do i do that?
[02:45] <ph1qt10n> nalioth: yes
[02:45] <grout58> it says theres no /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab but its in fdisk
[02:45] <jean> zyth: they crash
[02:45] <nickrud> mikebot, do you intend this partition to be readable by only you?
[02:45] <nalioth> ph1qt10n: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:45] <ph1qt10n> ok
[02:46] <mikebot> nickrud, i'm the only user, so i don't mind
[02:46] <MaRk182> zyth did you install something or it just detects it?
[02:46] <mikebot> nickrud, i just want to use it as storage
[02:46] <djs_2_6> Anyone know how to install avidemux?  I am getting an error that it cannot find spidermonkey, even after I have installed it, the -bin, the -dev, libjs, and libjs-dev...
[02:46] <MrRio> wow, im loving flight 5
[02:46] <nickrud> mikebot, then sudo chown mike:mike /path/to/mount/point
[02:46] <jean> zyth: not sure how long its gonna take before i become the guy who kills his family. but i dont have any wife and kids so its ok :D
[02:46] <mikebot> mike is my ubuntu log on name?
[02:46] <nickrud> mikebot, exactly
[02:47] <mikebot> so michael:michael?
[02:47] <grout58> how do i mount hdb1
[02:47] <nickrud> mikebot, if that's who you log in as, yes
[02:47] <zyth> jean, well, unfortunately 'stuff crashes' is kinda like  taking your car to the mechanic and saying 'it's making a weird noise, what's wrong'.  They won't be able to tell from just that.
[02:47] <grout58> it asks for the file system
[02:47] <mikebot> nickrud, sudo chown michael:michael /media/fext3
[02:47] <mikebot> okay
[02:47] <witte> jean,
[02:47] <V4Vendetta> ls
[02:47] <V4Vendetta> oops
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> :-P
[02:48] <witte> stuff crashing could be problems with memory
[02:48] <witte> sorry
[02:48] <balu1> nickrud:  the log was long so i had to split it up in 3 parts... part 1 :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10160                 PART 2:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10161                                           Part 3:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10162
[02:48] <mikebot> nickrud, ah wonderful, thank you; can i delete that "lost and found" folder in it?
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> damn a new kernel is out
[02:48] <nickrud> mikebot, it's a filesystem housekeeping thing, let it live
[02:48] <balu1>  a new kernel is out?
[02:48] <V4Vendetta> balu1, yes
[02:48] <witte> I've seen mozilla die unexpectedly, memtest found problems with the memory
[02:48] <nickrud> balu1, k
[02:48] <balu1> nickrud: thanks again
[02:48] <mikebot> nickrud, can i hide it?
[02:48] <jean> witte: im running a full gnome with 256mb
[02:48] <zyth> there's *always* a new kernel out.  Don't run off and upgrade like a lemming :P
[02:48] <djs_2_6> witte - My firefox dies all the time...
[02:48] <grout58> how do i mount hdb1
[02:49] <devians> my phpmyadmin directory got rm-rf'd, and apt wont remove or reinstall it. any ideas to get it working again?
[02:49] <grout58> it asks for the file system
[02:49] <zyth> grout58, -t fstype
[02:49] <zyth> like -t ext3
[02:49] <nickrud> balu1, do you have libglide3 installed?
[02:49] <zyth> er assuming you're using the mount command
[02:49] <balu1> nickrud: yes i folowed ur instructions and installed it.
[02:49] <balu1> nickrud: i can check it if u can tell me how ;p
[02:50] <witte> djs_2_6, have you run memtest86?  I've also seen firefox randomly crash on a computer with good memory
[02:50] <nickrud> apt-cache policy libglide3
[02:50] <japanlover> For some reason it won't let me check off the add check box for the multiverse...any idea why?
[02:50] <zyth> personally, I'd reccomend opera 9 over Firefox, but I'm a heretic :P
[02:50] <grout58> it says hdb1 does not exist
[02:50] <mikebot> nickrud, okauy, one more thing..hehe...as for the f:ntfs...if i want to change the mount point to fntfs, can i just edit fstab then do that remount command, and i wont have to do all this editing again?
[02:50] <zyth> japanlover, have you specified any multiverse repos in your sources?
[02:50] <rukuartic> devians: http://phpmyadmin.sf.net :)