[18:20] <aetas> alazare619, connect it and type "fdisk -l" and pastebin what it says
[18:20] <trism> Sterile: you could add: au BufRead,BufNewFile *.sage set filetype=python to your ~/.vimrc (for your other question)
[18:21] <stercor> I'm having trouble installing texlive-*.  Is there another way to get LaTeX installed?
[18:23] <terry> Sterile: It may also work if you just name the file python.vim  AND maybe that is what vim is looking for.  (Just guessing here. It probably doent's matter as long as the name starts with python.)
[18:23] <Abhijit> stercor, what trouble? i think sudo apt-get install latex install it
[18:24] <Raven> I just installed Ubuntu and there's something that really confuses me
[18:24] <Sterile> terry, yay it works :) I typed the command in vimrc and now both .py and .sage files work
[18:24] <Raven> Would this be the place to ask?
[18:25] <terry> Sterile:  Great!
[18:25] <stercor> Abhijit: I have logs of all of it.  But none of it makes sense.  It just says "Error" or "PANIC" with little explanation.
[18:25] <Sterile> terry, what does "au" do?
[18:25] <Raven> Hello?
[18:25] <aetas> dont ask to ask, just ask
[18:25] <Abhijit> stercor, u tried sudo apt-get install latex?
[18:25] <Raven> ugh, never mind
[18:25] <Abhijit> !details | Raven
[18:25] <Raven> oh, ok.
[18:26] <slacker_nl> szal: ping back
[18:26] <Raven> I was wondering if I download a program from firefox
[18:26] <Raven> and it gives a .tar
[18:26] <terry> Sterile: I dono
[18:26] <aetas> Raven, is this your first ubuntu install?
[18:26] <szal> slacker_nl: your EOL Upgrade howto could use a little refreshment ;)
[18:26] <Sterile> terry, did you just google it? lol
[18:26] <Raven> where do I extract it to so that ubuntu considers it an installed program?
[18:26] <terry> Sterile: Prolly puts you in edit mode and prints u
[18:26] <Raven> Yes, this is my first ubuntu install
[18:26] <slacker_nl> szal: which part?
[18:27] <terry> Sterile: No. Was that a joke?
[18:27] <szal> slacker_nl: specifically including upgrading from Hardy or Karmic to Lucid
[18:27] <Raven> I'm running the newest version, by the way
[18:27] <Sterile> terry, no, I mean, how did you find out the command
[18:27] <maco> Raven: for a pre-compiled tarball like firefox uses, it doesn't really matter where it is. it's statically compiled. you can run it from anywhere, as long as the thing to double click stays in the same spot in its untar'd directory
[18:27] <Sterile> terry, is what I'm wondering
[18:27] <aetas> Raven, things in .tar or .tar.gz or .tgz or .bzip2 are usually source packages which have to be built and installed manually (usually scripted) but will never show up as installed in Ubuntu
[18:27] <maco> Raven: what you CAN do is make a launcher and tell it the path to wherever you stashed it
[18:27] <trism> Sterile: :help filetype
[18:27] <maco> aetas: firefox doesn't ship source tarballs, just static compiled ones
[18:28] <trism> Sterile: it was from me, not terry
[18:28] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. My sound has disappeared! What can I do???
[18:28] <slacker_nl> szal: mkay.. I don't have much time on my hands and my VM is broken (at least, unable to connect to it..)
[18:28] <terry> au: command not found
[18:28] <slacker_nl> szal: I will have a look, but no idea when/how
[18:28] <Sterile> trism, oh, my bad
[18:28] <szal> slacker_nl: and perhaps even from Intrepid or Jaunty to Lucid (no idea whether that's supported, but helpers here in the chat keep reiterating that it should at least still be possible to upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid via Karmic, which I somehow doubt)
[18:28] <Sterile> trism, you both have similar names
[18:28] <maco> Raven: there should be a way to make that launcher in the menu, but i use kubuntu so dont knw how to do it in ubuntu
[18:28] <Raven> Well, when I double click the cog icon which appears represent the program, nothing happens
[18:28] <aetas> maco, "usually"
[18:28] <trism> Sterile: indeed
[18:28] <Raven> I've somewhat lost the thread of the explanation
[18:28] <maco> Raven: i'm not sure why you need a static firefox though. firefox should be included in your ubuntu install
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Raven there is a ppa which will give firefox5 and will integrate it into you system packages
[18:29] <slacker_nl> jaunty to lucid?
[18:29] <Raven> but not the newest version
[18:29] <roasted> eth0 is set for static, yet it pulled a dhcp address. uhh???
[18:29] <maco> Raven: which version of ubuntu?
[18:29] <Raven> 11
[18:29] <maco> !info firefox
[18:29] <szal> slacker_nl: and I think everything older than Hardy can be removed or moved to some other place for historical reasons ;)
[18:29] <maco> Raven: 5.0 is in 11.04
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: how did you define it as static?
[18:29] <slacker_nl> szal: 9.04 to 10.04 directly is not possible
[18:29] <terry> Oh you mean for python code.  ... again , I dono.
[18:29] <aetas> maco: he said download a program FROM firefox, not firefox ;)
[18:30] <Raven> No, mine only came with 4.0
[18:30] <aetas> guys stop confusing him, he didnt say hes downloading firefox
[18:30] <slacker_nl> szal: I don't agree, it is already called EOLUpgrades ;)
[18:30] <Raven> actually i am
[18:30] <maco> Raven: you just need to install updates :)
[18:30] <aetas> ok well you said from firefox ;)
[18:30] <szal> slacker_nl: of course not, but some say that it's still possible to go 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04
[18:30] <Raven> but that's not really the point
[18:30] <maco> Raven: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:30] <maco> Raven: or use update-manager
[18:30] <slacker_nl> that is true, that should be possible
[18:30] <roasted> ActionParsnip, I uninstalled network manager and set it as static in the network interface file. I thought it was weird that my network connection wasnt working, then I realized it was 17.11 when the IP should be static @ 17.2
[18:30] <roasted> ActionParsnip, with the dhcp range being 17.10 to 17.254
[18:31] <dualbootah> please helpe me
[18:31] <dualbootah> my wow crashes
[18:31] <slacker_nl> szal: ^^ I'll need to have a little go at it, so I need FF3.x for that, otherwise the VMWare console is not working
[18:31] <dante123> hi all......will name my first child after you if you can help me.......have a dell mini 10v which will not go into 1024x600 resolution but instead goes to 1024x768.  Probelm is that edid is corrupt i think ....so it does what it can but losed 1024x600 resolution on this netbook
[18:31] <dualbootah> even after ive added the SET opengl thing to the config file
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> slacker_nl: its possible, just no advised or supported
[18:31] <roasted> ActionParsnip, I just restarted the net interfaces and now its 17.2, but it legitimently puled a DHCP address when it was set to static, which shocked me.
[18:31] <gentoo> Salam
[18:31] <slacker_nl> ActionParsnip: I know, so not going to advise/document it ;)
[18:31] <Raven> This is incredibly confusing.  Is ubuntu really set up so that you can't download an application from the internet without having to resort to terminal workarounds?
[18:31] <Sterile> terry, trism, thanks for the help :)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> slacker_nl: point taken
[18:32] <dualbootah> gentoo can you help me
[18:32] <dante123> that means bottom is cut off on screen.....running ubuntu 11.04.  I would edit xorg.conf to add 1024x600 res but it is not there....any solutions?
[18:32] <gentoo> blb yа[уq
[18:32] <maco> Raven: you don't need to get firefox from a random point on the internet. it's in the repositories as version 5. there is an update available for your ubuntu to get it
[18:32] <dualbootah> my world of warcraft crashes saying it encountered a serious error
[18:32] <dualbootah> i have the log if you need it
[18:32] <Raven> I was actually trying get the beta, which I think is reasonable
[18:32] <dualbootah> i added the SET gxApi "opengl"
[18:32] <dualbootah> and it still wont work
[18:32] <maco> i see
[18:32] <gentoo> мне похуй
[18:33] <dualbootah> hello?
[18:33] <dante123> so i need to know how to create a custom resolution if there is no xorg.conf in 11.04?
[18:33] <szal> !ru | gentoo
[18:33] <aetas> if you're dual booting can't you just run wow on windows ;)
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Raven: sometimes it really makes life easier. The terminal is very powerful and great for advising as we can give terminal commands here
[18:33] <dante123> ActionParsnip u there?
[18:33] <ikonia> dante123: you make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[18:33] <maco> Raven: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[18:33] <aetas> ActionParsnip, and copy the output instead of screenshot it
[18:33] <maco> Raven: the ubuntu mozilla team maintains a repository for the beta, linked above
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if you make an xorg.conf it will be obeyed
[18:34] <dante123> ikonia, but I don't know what to put in it......everything else works, mouse, synaptics and I dont want to mess that up?  Is there a generic I can use?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> aetas: exactly, very handy
[18:34] <maco> Raven: somewhere in software center (sorry, i use kubuntu not ubuntu) there should be a way to add that repository
[18:35] <ikonia> dante123: you only put in the stuff you want, if your mouse works, don't put any mouse config in there, the auto detect works fine
[18:35] <dante123> like can you point me to a very generic one that will just add the 1024x600 res while leaving everything else as configured?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if you drop to root recovery you can run: Xorg -configure   to make a base file.
[18:35] <ikonia> dante123: you don't want a generic one, that will conflict with the auto detect stuff, just put in the stuff you want
[18:35] <maujhsn> I deleted a config.inp file! Fortunately I saved the original config.inp as a text file. What commands do I use to create anew config.inp file?
[18:35] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[18:35] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[18:36] <MrNthDegree> !question
[18:36] <ikonia> maujhsn: what application use a config.inp file ?
[18:36] <dante123> let me pastebin u all....ikonia and ActionParsnip....hang on...this is what I want to try
[18:36] <dr_willis> !Ask
[18:36] <terry> dualbootah: Only if you ask a question.
[18:36] <aetas> MrNthDegree, thanks
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !ff5
[18:36] <dualbootah> i have terry
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Yeya
[18:36] <dualbootah> my world of warcraft crashes saying it encountered a serious error
[18:36] <ikonia> oghh
[18:36] <dualbootah> i added the SET gxApi "opengl"
[18:36] <aetas> which is why no one answered
[18:36] <dualbootah> and it still wont owkr
[18:36] <ikonia> dualbootah: have you considered asking for help in #winehq where the specialist wine support is
[18:36] <dualbootah> i have
[18:36] <dualbootah> and no one knows the answer
[18:36] <Pici> dualbootah: Did you look at the url I gave you earlier, or in the channel I told you to ask in?
[18:37] <terry> dualbootah: Are you running gentoo?
[18:37] <dualbootah> im running ubuntu
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: they know about all the config tweaks and glitches needed
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: you're running wine
[18:37] <dualbootah> i aksed
[18:37] <dualbootah> no one knows in there
[18:37] <dr_willis> !appdb | dualbootah
[18:37] <dante123> does this look okay?  http://pastebin.com/tunDEGXU
[18:37] <dualbootah> im aware
[18:37] <maujhsn> Ikonia projectM!
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: not everything works well with wine, hence why #winehq knows all the tricks/tips and known issues
[18:37] <Pici> dualbootah: They know more than us about wine issues, its futile to ask in #ubuntu for Wine help.
[18:38] <dr_willis> there the wine forums also
[18:38] <dante123> because this is on dell mini 10v notebook and that is really the only res choice worth using
[18:38] <delac> can anyone tell me why receiving message with Pidgin or changing volume doesn't bring up the notifications anymore?
[18:39] <aetas> delac, since?
[18:39] <maujhsn> Ikonia ProjectM is the application!
[18:39] <dante123> ActionParsnip and ikonia how does that look http://pastebin.com/tunDEGXU
[18:39] <delac> aetas: i think it has been a while
[18:40] <ikonia> orys_: maujhsn I have no idea what that application is
[18:40] <iLogic> help guys, I just downloaded a .iso image of ubuntu on a mac, how do I copy it to a usb drive so I can install on another computer?
[18:40] <aetas> delac, ps ax | grep notification-area-applet
[18:40] <terry> dante123: Looks ok as long as your video card and monitor will suport 1024x600   What does xrandr say?
[18:41] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: Hey, so I was looking through that guide. It talks about here files, but I can't figure out where the code for their "CONFIRM" is.
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Raven: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[18:41] <delac> aetas:  1992 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=41 17169 pts/4    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto notification-area-applet
[18:41] <xibalba> hello all, is it possible to have 2 bond devices? bond0 and bond1?
[18:41] <maujhsn> Ikonia tried using the mv command but the terminal says go to mv --help
[18:42] <aetas> iLogic, I have no idea if this will work but what about "dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb" or whatever your image and flash drive is
[18:42] <ikonia> maujhsn: mv is "move" not create new file
[18:42] <aetas> delac, one sec
[18:42] <Zzarkc-20> mel: Yeah, that would be an option. regardless, I've always wanted to know how to autoinput data when the prompt asks for it. I'm sure I'll need it again soon enough.
[18:42] <dualbootah> i need to figure out this wow problem
[18:42] <maujhsn> Ikonia what command creates a new file?
[18:42] <dualbootah> why does it keep crashing!
[18:43] <ikonia> maujhsn: just open a blank file in a text editor and save it
[18:43] <iLogic> aetas: will try
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc-20: command << inputlist
[18:43] <TheTongue> um, I think pidgin is possesed
[18:43] <xibalba> hello all, is it possible to have 2 bond devices? bond0 and bond1? i've submitted this to the mailing list too, waiting on a response
[18:43] <dr_willis> iLogic:  dd wont work wuth ubuntu isos . yet.. try the pendrivelinux website for tools to put the iso in the flash
[18:43] <dante123> terry, i know it will because it has before.....problem i think is that edid is sending garbled info (this is a netbook and there have been screen hinge issues) my wifes dell is exactly the same and works with this res.....xanr doesnt recognize the rez however
[18:43] <jonatasnona> iLogic, use this app usb-creator-gtk
[18:43] <TheTongue> when my nicklist scrollbar is not at very top or very bottom
[18:43] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: How would I indicate pressing enter?
[18:43] <TheTongue> it jumbles about like its on acid
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> dualbootah: have you asked in #winehq
[18:43] <dualbootah> yes
[18:43] <xibalba> is there an advanced user ubuntu channel?
[18:43] <dualbootah> no one knows the answer
[18:44] <dualbootah> ive talked to the 4 best ppl
[18:44] <aetas> delac, in pidgin's settings under plugins do you have libnotify enabled?
[18:44] <terry> dante123: Try it and see.
[18:44] <maujhsn> Ikonia what commands do I use?
[18:44] <dante123> terry all this stuff happened after 10.04 to 10.10 so I am trying latest and forcing it to go 1024x600 through xorg.conf if possible
[18:44] <ikonia> maujhsn: open a file in a text editor, put whatever data in you want and just save it
[18:44] <iLogic> thanks guys!
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc-20: not sure. My bash-fu is weak. Could ask in #bash as well
[18:45] <terry> dante123: What video card does it have?  What driver are you loading?
[18:45] <delac> aetas: yep
[18:45] <dante123> i put the xorg.conf in etc/X11 still right?
[18:45] <iLogic> I will try the unetbooting for mac os
[18:45] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: Ah yeha... That's a good idea. Forgot they had a channel. Thanks for the help!!!
[18:45] <terry> dante123: Yes
[18:45] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , you've helped me out before and seemed knowledgable. do you know if it's possible to have 2 sets of bonded NICs?
[18:45] <dante123> this is a dell mini 10v......some intel driver....not sure
[18:45] <maujhsn> Ikonia sudo nano?
[18:45] <ikonia> maujhsn: if you want, sure
[18:45] <[THC]AcidRain> omg
[18:45] <maujhsn> OK
[18:45] <marek_> Hi.
[18:45] <[THC]AcidRain> relay access denied. you gotta be shittin me. ive already delt with this problem
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: never used it dude. I would have replied earlier if i did as well
[18:46] <terry> xibalba: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[18:46] <dante123> can i just log out then back in or do i have to reboot in order to use xorg.conf???
[18:46] <aetas> delac, do any other notification events happen up there?
[18:47] <dr_willis> dante123:  restart x.    sudo service gdm restart    is one way
[18:47] <terry> what is meant by "bonded NICs"
[18:47] <aetas> iLogic, I dont think thats gonna work for .iso files, it would need to be .img
[18:47] <dante123> logged out and then logged back in.....still 1024x768.....cant get 1024x600   anymore ideas?  (also how to check edid data)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Dante: any bugs logged for it? Checked in the ubuntu docs? There is a very long page describing issues with lots of netbooks as well as what works well
[18:48] <aetas> iLogic, apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[18:48] <dr_willis> dante123:  loggin/out is not the same as restarting x
[18:48] <yuvilio> anyone deal with this issue when trying to install postgres? Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl .... invoke-rc.d: initscript postgresql, action "start" failed.
[18:48] <delac> aetas: changing volume doesnt show the popups. and I havent noticed any others either for a while
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Terry: 2 connections with a different wan ip joined to make on interface with the combination of the speeds
[18:49] <terry> o
[18:49] <dante123> okay will try shutdown and then start again
[18:49] <dr_willis> dante123:  restart x.    sudo service gdm restart    is one way
[18:49] <iLogic> aetas: unetbooting seems to be working :)
[18:49] <aetas> iLogic, you got it working?
[18:49] <iLogic> thanks for the help, aetas, dr_willis
[18:49] <iLogic> yep
[18:49] <terry> dante123: YOu only have to log out and back in again.
[18:50] <Gunz4MiPPle> how do i connect the wifi from the cli
[18:50] <MagentoPycho> hi guys
[18:50] <dr_willis> dante123:  command is  'sudo service gdm restart'
[18:50] <aetas> iLogic, great, np :)
[18:50] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: wilist wlan scanning
[18:50] <dr_willis> logging out of x may or may not restart the x server
[18:50] <MagentoPycho> i want to redirect /admin to http://mysite/admin/admin using .htaccess
[18:50] <nyuszika7h> dante123: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:51] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning ;  sudo dhclient wlan0  #Where wlan0 is the actual interface name.
[18:51] <aetas> delac, you still have the notify panel up right?  the part where the pidgin icon should be and all?
[18:51] <dante123> well, it didn't work.....under system, pref, monitors my choices are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  This dell mini should run 1024x600 but no choice there.  How to check edid for monitor?
[18:51] <mardi_> hell
[18:51] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwlconfig   #With no arguments will show your wireless NIC's name.
[18:52] <delac> aetas: yes
[18:52] <dante123> Thanks for suggestios so far everyone.  I'm thinking there has to be a way to add custom resolution or force 1024x600
[18:53] <terry> dante123: What display adapter is it?
[18:53] <delac> aetas: but are those even related? I'm talking about the notify-osd popups
[18:53] <shadow98> in natty how do you change visual effects to minimal..
[18:53] <terry> dante123: What driver are you using?
[18:53] <dante123> terry, how do i check lspci?
[18:53] <terry> dante123: yes
[18:53] <alessioalex> hello
[18:53] <ciss> our ubuntu server 10.04 (virtualbox guest) freezes on boot, immediately after "Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done."
[18:53] <alessioalex> I cannot install vcprompt on Ubuntu
[18:53] <aetas> delac, ok well is the notify-osd daemon running?
[18:53] <alessioalex> can anybody help?
[18:54] <ciss> i've seen in another paste that the next step in the boot process would be to mount /dev - is this correct?
[18:54] <ikonia> alessioalex: you need to ask a question for someone to help
[18:54] <Gunz4MiPPle> thanks terry, but its not working
[18:54] <shadow98> how do i set the minimum visual effects in natty?
[18:54] <delac> aetas: not at the moment :) I killed it while trying to restart it. For some reason it never came up again
[18:54] <dante123> intel 945gm/gms/gme
[18:54] <alessioalex> I followed the instructions from here, but I get "vcprompt command not found" : http://vcprompt.com/
[18:54] <dante123> terry
[18:54] <alessioalex> fresh Ubuntu installation 11.04
[18:55] <terry> Gnurdux: What is the NIC's name?
[18:55] <delac> aetas: and I tried to restart it because of the lack of popups
[18:55] <dante123> how to get edid info terry et al
[18:55] <aetas> ciss, I believe so
[18:55] <terry> dante123: xrandr    #What does that tell you?
[18:56] <ikonia> alessioalex: what instructions
[18:56] <aetas> delac, did it die off?
[18:56] <ciss> aetas: then what could possibly prevent /dev from being mounted, without giving any errors?
[18:56] <shadow98> how do i set the minimum visual effects in natty?
[18:56] <alessioalex> curl <url> chmod
[18:56] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What it the NIC name?  What does  iwconfig tell  you?
[18:56] <alessioalex> and export..
[18:56] <delac> aetas: yes, it did die
[18:56] <dante123> terry it says min 320x200, max 4096x4096 and gives the three resolutions i mentioned before plus the refresh rates
[18:56] <ikonia> alessioalex: what is the output you get after the curl command
[18:56] <delac> aetas: and I was kinda expecting it to restart itself, but it didnt
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry:
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> err
[18:57] <dante123> i have my wifes dell mini 10v which i could use to compare with
[18:57] <alessioalex> Everything's fine, I don't get any error
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> wifi@realtek
[18:57] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: Yes?
[18:57] <alessioalex> I made it with sudo
[18:57] <delac> aetas: and I dont know any command to start it again
[18:57] <ikonia> alessioalex: what does "ls -la ~/bin/vcprompt" give you
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> it says wifi@realtek
[18:57] <alessioalex> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alessio alessio 19228 2011-07-22 21:49 /home/alessio/bin/vcprompt
[18:58] <aetas> delac, /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-os
[18:58] <terry> dante123: Then those are the screen size resolutions you have available to you with the driver  you are using now.   Which one is it using now?
[18:58] <ikonia> alessioalex: please do PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[18:58] <ThatSnail> Hi, sorry if this is a dumb question; I'm trying to access an environmental variable from a .sh file but it turns up blank.
[18:58] <dante123> terry my wife is running 10.04 on hers and it gives more resolutions with same graphics card
[18:58] <ikonia> alessioalex: then try vcpompt
[18:58] <ikonia> vcprompt
[18:58] <dante123> terry, how to tell what driver?
[18:58] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What is the essid name of the router?
[18:58] <Bibesko> hi
[18:58] <Gunz4MiPPle> LOVEBOMB
[18:58] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: please don't
[18:58] <terry> dante123: xrandr
[18:59] <terry> dante123: No sorry.....
[18:59] <tzhuang> hello
[18:59] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: this is a support channel, we don't need random offtopic outbursts
[18:59] <alessioalex> ikonia it seems to work now
[18:59] <alessioalex> thanks
[18:59] <ikonia> alessioalex: ther eyou go
[18:59] <Gunz4MiPPle> ikonia: are you reading my conversation
[18:59] <tzhuang> i have a shared desktop between my dual boot winxp and ubuntu natty
[18:59] <terry> dante123:
[18:59] <terry> dante123: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:59] <dante123> terry i have xrandr on screen for this computer and my wifes (which is working in 1024x600)
[18:59] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: ha, I've just realised it was you SID - sorry
[18:59] <tzhuang> problem is, shortcuts on my windows don't work in ubuntu
[18:59] <Gunz4MiPPle> np lol
[18:59] <dante123> you mean open that file terry?
[18:59] <tzhuang> and sym links in ubuntu don't work in win
[19:00] <tzhuang> anyone have a solution to this?
[19:00] <ikonia> tzhuang: shortcuts ?
[19:00] <tzhuang> like windows shortcuts. they show up as [shortcut_name].lnk in ubuntu
[19:00] <tzhuang> folder shortcuts?
[19:00] <ikonia> tzhuang: windows shortcuts won't work in Ubuntu
[19:00] <tzhuang> i know that
[19:01] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwconfig wifi@realtek essid LOVEBOMB
[19:01] <seanzy> does anybody else hate unity?
[19:01] <ikonia> tzhuang: they are a a different format
[19:01] <ikonia> seanzy: this isn't the channel for that sort of thing
[19:01] <dante123> okay terry , i have the log files open on both....what am i looking for?
[19:01] <ikonia> seanzy: if you don't like it, don't use it
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia: and symbolic links don't seem to work in windows
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia:  the quetion is
[19:01] <ikonia> tzhuang: the answer is "no"
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia: is there a problem to replace the both fo them
[19:01] <alex--> lol
[19:01] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: And then: dhclient wifi@realtek
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: *solution
[19:02] <mang0> Hm. I'm looking for getting my UC-Logic tablet working properly in ubuntu, but the forum page I've found is for ubuntu 9.04.....
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: there's no a format that both will recognize?
[19:02] <dante123> terry what am I looking for in this log file?
[19:02] <ikonia> tzhuang: no
[19:02] <crf> hi, how should desktop entry files be named? application.desktop?
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: that's unfortunate =( thanks for the help
[19:02] <george_> hey guys i close the lid so the netbook suspends right? but i see random colors on the screen and my caps lock key goes crazy
[19:02] <mang0> tzhuang: what? a format that windows and that ubuntu recognises?
[19:03] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: Of course, you have to preface those commands with sudo
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry its
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> grr
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle>  Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>"
[19:03] <aetas> george_, not necessarily no, only if ACPI is setup for it
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> but it says adapter not found
[19:03] <ThatSnail> Hey, have a problem with a shell script, there's an environment variable that I have defined in .profile and .bashrc; env makes it appear in root but not in a shell script.  Any ideas?
[19:03] <dante123> terry, it looks to me that it is using the intel driver
[19:03] <alessioalex> ikonia another thing: every time I install gVim, I don't get any shortcut and I don't get any icon
[19:03] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: is   WIFI@REALTEK   really the NIC name of the wifi device?
[19:04] <mang0> !tablet
[19:04] <alessioalex> what's that all about?
[19:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> SET failed on device WIFI@REALTEK ; No such device.
[19:04] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What does iwconfig say it is?
[19:04] <george_> aetas: what do u mean??
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: where are you looking for an icon ?
[19:04] <alessioalex> Applications ... somewhere
[19:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry  Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>"
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: it is in there,
[19:04] <mang0> !uc-logic
[19:04] <alessioalex> I just want to put it at the top (near the Firefox icon)
[19:04] <jerk> hello there... I have the "BOOTMGR is missing" problem... I made a usb boot stick of ubuntu 10.04 32 bit, and booted it from boot menu. however, I get the message that BOOTMGR is missing, and I should press alt ctrl delete for rebbot
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: you have to create your own launcher next to the firefox icon
[19:04] <aetas> george_, when you close your netbook the computer sends an ACPI event to the kernel notifying it that it needs to suspend, which the computer can ignore or isnt even setup to receive it
[19:05] <dante123> terry...have you abandoned me????
[19:05] <jerk> oh and yeah, i used unetbootin (for windows)
[19:05] <dualbootah> i made a log of my wow error
[19:05] <dualbootah> http://pastebin.com/mZvDDzCf
[19:05] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwconfig <wirleless-NIC-name-here> essid <essid-of-router-here> ; dhclient <wireless-NIC-name-here>
[19:05] <terry> dante123: No
[19:05] <dualbootah> can someone read it over
[19:05] <ikonia> dualbootah: you've been give options
[19:06] <alex--> "You can skip this step if your distribution’s package manager provides a sparsehash package that you can install. "
[19:06] <alex--> does apt-get provides a sparsehash?
[19:06] <terry> dante123: Let me first ask you this?  You have upgraded to 10.10, Right?
[19:06] <terry> dante123: Have you done:  sudo apt-get upgrade   Yet?
[19:07] <terry> dante123: If not, do so now.  And then see what you get.
[19:07] <dante123> terry, originally all worked under 10.04.....then after 10.10 (this is my wife's friends netbook) problem happened.  I know that edid on this netbook is not being read....the system defaults to 1024x768 ever since then.  So I decided to install 11.04 celan fresh install
[19:08] <delac> aetas: seems the popups came back. thanks!
[19:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry: durp, i thot you mean Nickname, not the name of the nic
[19:08] <jerk> can anyone help, then?
[19:08] <aetas> dualbootah, pm me
[19:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ROLF
[19:08] <aetas> delac, awesome :)
[19:08] <dante123> but still resolution is 1024x768 terry, I believe there is soemthing wrong with lcd screen sending incorrect or messed up edid info to the system....hence it does not know that this can support 1024x600..
[19:10] <terry> dante123: Did you use ubuntu-10.04.1   or  ubuntu-10.04.2 ?
[19:10] <dante123> 10.10 and upgrade is not part of the problem really, something wrong with edid info and the system does  not realize that this lcd monitor can go into 1024x600....I am trying to force it somethow into 1024x600...becase then all will be well in the universe
[19:10] <aetas> dante123, any chance you have an nvidia card for it?
[19:10] <terry> dante123: It depends on the video driver.
[19:11] <ciss> i've enabled verbose output in grub. my 10.04 server freezes after the line: "EXT4-fs (dm-0): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode". any ideas?
[19:11] <botthead> hi dudes, one question... does the livecd has an option for load it to ram instead of being a live'cd' ?
[19:11] <george__> aetas: hey, strange, when i click suspend, the random colors appear again, and the light on my caps lock key starts blinking
[19:11] <terry> dante123: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <dante123> terry, this was probably running fine with ubuntu 10.04.1 originally......what the woman did in between me installing 10.04.1 is anyones guess....when she brought it back to me it was 10.10 and rez was messed up....and no, this does not have nvidia graphics....intel
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> dante123: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[19:11] <ciss> .. the "freezing" being more of a "hanging", since keyboard input is still displayed
[19:11] <jerk> thanks anyway
[19:12] <aetas> george__, looks like ACPI is confused as hell
[19:12] <george__> aetas: is there a way to fix it??
[19:12] <aetas> george__, what netbook is this?
[19:12] <dante123> ActionParsnip it is intel mobile 845gme
[19:12] <dante123> sorry ActionParsnip intel 945gme
[19:12] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: ROLF  ?   is that in the output of   iwconfig ?
[19:13] <george__> aetas: its an HP Mini 210 1010NR with proprietary driver wl installed
[19:13] <botthead> plz, i want to check a dvd md5sum and i really dont want to install it to hd because it will take me a lot of time... and i just need it for doing a simple task... any hints on how to? i dont need x...just a shell whit noX and whit the cd driver available
[19:13] <seanzy> how can you resize the icons in the launcher in unity?
[19:13] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry: yes, there is something called Nickname, but you meant the adapters name, which is wlan2
[19:13] <george__> seanzy: a program called ccsm will help u out on that
[19:14] <dante123> ActionParsnip how do i get edid info from monitor?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> dante123: you could use the xorg edgers ppa as a very last resort. Its experimental but may fix stuff, may also break stuff but ppa-purge may be able to remove it and reinstall the bad packages
[19:14] <botthead> Welll... just like i tought... downloading and burning ubuntu was a waste of time... time to go back to the old 'n reliable rescuecd... thanks for nothing anyway.
[19:14] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: If so:  iwconfig wlan2 essid LOVEBOB ; dhclient wlan2
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if edid isn't given by default then it doesn't do it
[19:15] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: NIC -  Network Interface Card  (Sorry I should have said what is the network name for your Wireless Netwrok Interface.)
[19:15] <dante123> ActionParsnip and terry, i really think this problem is with edid because even bios now shows up using 1024x768 instead of 1024x600......something physically messed up...not just drivers
[19:16] <Gunz4MiPPle> i shoudl have known thats what you meant
[19:16] <terry> dante123: bios shows screensize resolution?
[19:16] <mang0> Guys I found this page whilst trying to sort my graphics tablet out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen But it's for 9.04. Will it still work in 11.04?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Dante123: that's all i got. Its one reason i always buy nvidia:-)
[19:17] <dante123> terry, when booting the computer (my wifes with exact same hardware) and her friends (messed up one) you can see from the bios screen by the location of the dell logo that they are in different resolutions.....so this is PRIOR to any OS running
[19:17] <aetas> george__, I can't find anything on google relating to it :(
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: worth a try. Just be sure you can roll back whatever you do
[19:18] <dante123> Is there a way to access edid information from command line.....?  like lspci, or lsusb,,,,some other command?
[19:18] <mang0> ActionParsnip: I've got no idea how to roll back anything on ubuntu :/
[19:18] <terry> dante123: Then see what you have on your wife's PC and duplicate it.
[19:18] <mang0> are there terminal commands to undo the last command ActionParsnip ?
[19:18] <terry> dante123: But did you do   apt-get upgrade    yet?  If not. do so now.  Ok?
[19:18] <dante123> terry, wife is running 10.04 and this is running 11.04 so exact duplication is not possible I dont think
[19:18] <aetas> george__, I have some stuff to try if you wanna pm me
[19:19] <dante123> terry, already ran update manager after fresh install of 11.04
[19:19] <TheCyph3r> Question: If I use the "sudo su" command, how can I revert OUT of root in that shell?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: if a guide tells you to edit a file, make a backup copy somewhere else. Its not ubuntu specific
[19:19] <mang0> ActionParsnip: gotcha, thanks
[19:19] <dante123> terry, why should I run upgrade if I just did a fresh install and updated everything after that (will do it if you really think it will help)
[19:19] <th0r> TheCyph3r: exit
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: if its bad you can simply restore the known good file
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm
[19:20] <mang0> yeah, I see. thankyou
[19:20] <terry> dante123:  Then look at what you have on the wife's and duplicate it on the other one.  lsmod  will tell you the modules.  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  will show you X's log file.
[19:20] <dante123> terry, just ran it and there is nothing to upgrade....already running the latest
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i get phpbb3 to relay with my email? i was sure this thing was working 2 months ago
[19:20] <alex--> how can i get something like this? : http://<IP_ADDRESS>/images/eth0-day.png
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> but now im getting emails saying relay access denied
[19:20] <ikonia> [THC]AcidRain: check the phpbb forums
[19:20] <Arcademan> May I ask is there a way to disable the unity dock in Ubuntu 11.04 :)
[19:21] <terry> dante123: You run upgrade to make sure all packages are up to date.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Dante123: if you run Natty in a live cd, is it ok?
[19:21] <ikonia> [THC]AcidRain: your MTA needs to have your domain setup in the smtp relay parameter
[19:21] <th0r> alex--: nagios?
[19:21] <dante123> terry, i compared the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the main difference I see is around edid (wife's computer lists make of monitor etc.) and resolution modes
[19:21] <alex--> what does nagios does?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !classic |arcademan
[19:21] <th0r> alex--: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/images/eth0-day.png
[19:21] <alex--> i mean
[19:21] <alex--> is it a webpage?
[19:21] <alex--> webapp?
[19:21] <alex--> program?
[19:22] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> !info nagios
[19:22] <terry> dante123: what you are looking for is the video driver.
[19:22] <alex--> does it needs a gui?
[19:22] <ikonia> alex--: it's overkill for you, it's a full monitoring suite
[19:22] <Arcademan> Is there another way without changing to gnome classic :)
[19:22] <alex--> why overkill?
[19:22] <th0r> alex--: it is an app you install on a server. It collects snmp data from network nodes and creates those graphs from that data
[19:22] <dante123> ActionParsnip, no, same thing.  Runs in 1024x768 no matter what livecd, ubuntu, BIOS
[19:22] <ikonia> alex--: because it's a full enterprise monitoring tool that needs to be installed, setup and maintained, and you just want a graph for your network card
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Terry: intel drivers are part of a default install
[19:22] <dante123> well not bios setup, but logo screen before booting
[19:23] <alex--> ikonia: i also want to see where traffic goes to
[19:23] <terry> ActionParsnip: Ok, good info.
[19:23] <dwatkins> alex--: that screenshot looks like "MRTG", it needs no GUI and can run in the background
[19:23] <ikonia> alex--: nagios won't do that
[19:23] <Arcademan> Is there a dockable weather App in unity :) may I ask where the extension are placed
[19:24] <alex--> is it nagios or MRGT?
[19:24] <alex--> !info MRGT
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> dante123: I've used puppy Linux in the past to make an xorg.conf file then copied it to my installed ubuntu
[19:24] <dante123> terry, the driver is same as my wifes computer.....intel 945 gme.....the problem is that the monitor is not detected properly.....it does not recognize what the monitor can do.....refresh rates,resolutions etc.....becasue I believe there is a hardware problem....what i am trying to do is force it into 1024x600
[19:24] <bbird1999> !!
[19:25] <th0r> alex--: that is mrtg
[19:25] <alex--> is mrtg easier?
[19:26] <dante123> ActionParnsip, I have used puppy like that too......aside from the fact that I do not have puppy on usb handy....though....I think solution will come from editing existing xorg.conf to get the resolutiion we need.
[19:26] <terry> dante123: I do not think you can force it to use 1024x600 Unless the driver software says you can, it's not gonna happen.  xrandr - what you see is what you get.  Unless you can run a different driver or a diferent kernel that has built in driver that will support it.
[19:26] <jakemp> It would be nice if ubuntu one had something set up so that I could use it to communicate(something like ssh or http) with all of my other ubuntu machines wherever I was.
[19:27] <aetas> dante123, edit xorg.conf?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> dante123: xorg.conf will tell it. The screen/video chip just isn't playing well with your version of xorg
[19:28] <dante123> terry, u r probably right, but I have edited xorg.conf before on another system where acer monitor did not give the edid info correctly and by having refresh rate and resolutions in there....was able to get it to display res i wanted
[19:29] <terry> dante123: was that with a CRT monitor?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: you can. I do it e every day. Just use port forwarding. Different port forwarding to each host
[19:29] <alexleon> ugh this new frostwire sucks -.- there is a program like frostwire but the old one?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> !gnutella | alexleon
[19:30] <dante123> ActionParsnip, then how do you explain that bios spash screen display differently on the exact same netbooks......something has happened to this pc itself...where even spash screens appear different (whereas when they were first purchased were identical)
[19:30] <jakemp> yeah, ActionParsnip  but something a bit more seamless and easier. I can set up a shared directory between all of my machines, but Ubuntu one is so much easier
[19:30] <alexleon> i wanna download sigle mp3's
[19:31] <jakemp> It just seems like a good next step
[19:31] <aetas> alexleon, telling us the feature you're looking for is probably better
[19:31] <dante123> terry, that was a monitor that was NOT crt but ubuntu detected it as such.......again edid issues
[19:31] <alex--> what's the difference between ubuntu server 32 bit and ubuntu server 64 bit?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> dante123: the bios is its own thing. So will always show the splash. It will even shos it if you installed ubuntu server which has no graphical desktop at a
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> All
[19:32] <terry> alex--: 32bit libraries in one, 64bit libraries in the other.
[19:32] <alex--> nothing else ?
[19:32] <alexleon> aetas the old frostwire used to show wich one is mp3 but the new one doesnt it shows only bog torrents i wanna find songs one by one
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> alex--: 64 bit will only run on 64 bit cpu. 32bit will run both
[19:33] <alex--> and about ram?
[19:33] <terry> alex--:  More than that, different kernel etc.
[19:33] <alex--> windows had some problem only couldn't take 3 gb ram
[19:33] <dante123> ActionParsnip, how do you explain how a computer that once had Dell Logo on bootup centred in the middle of screen, suddenly has it lowered and cut off?  Hardware issue...that happens to correspond with display issues that came up in ubuntu.
[19:33] <joshmc> alex--: that may be limited by the model of your processor, maybe not
[19:33] <alex--> intel i7
[19:33] <alex--> i dont know which one
[19:33] <Aleuck> hello, i'm working with ubuntu server and i need a qemu-kvm virtual machine to use the eth0 on bridge.. how is this possible?
[19:34] <joshmc> alex--: well, then it's not likely limited by that, haha
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: you could forward to one system, then have that system mount the other systems. Acting as a center
[19:34] <dante123> Im saying that if you ran windows or anything else on this computer.......the screen is going to go into 1024x768 now (for some unknown reason) when it used to go 1024x600
[19:34] <alex--> why is 64 bit recommend then?
[19:34] <jakemp> any modern CPU is 64 bit, except atoms
[19:34] <jakemp> anything newere than a pentium
[19:34] <jakemp> 4
[19:34] <edbian> Me CPU is modern!
[19:35] <edbian> And it's 32 bits! :D
[19:35] <shj> hi! guys!
[19:35] <terry> dante123: I suppose you could try to create an xorg.conf file while running the LiveCD and then copy it to /etc/X11/ on the HD.   Use  X -configure  See what happens.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Dante: the bios splash would show even if you had no OS installed at all. It means nothing
[19:35] <terry> dante123: Does the LiveCD show porper resolution?
[19:35] <aetas> terry, why can't he edit the one he has?
[19:35] <terry> aetas: He can.
[19:35] <jakemp> edbian, what CPU is that?
[19:35] <edbian> jakemp: Intel Celeron D from 2007
[19:36] <jakemp> okay, modern non celeron CPU
[19:36] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , you've helped me out before and seemed knowledgable. do you know if it's possible to have 2 sets of bonded NICs?
[19:36] <Spikestuff> Hi, how do I change my workstation or computer name on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:36] <aetas> terry, so what was the reason for the liveCD one?  I haven't been able to keep track
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: is my core2duo 1
[19:36] <alex--> what are the cons and tons of me taking 64 bit ubuntu?
[19:36] <alex--> because i have a problem with starting and compiling mta server on ubuntu 64 bit
[19:36] <dante123> terry, the livecd goes into 1024x768 on this system.....so basically that is pointless
[19:36] <alex--> because the program itself is 32 bit
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> 1.2ghz dual core modern?
[19:36] <edbian> alex--: cons and tons?
[19:36] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , if it's n atom
[19:36] <aetas> alex--, 32bit binaries can run fine
[19:37] <terry> dante123: Ok then create one from your wire's PC.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: its a
[19:37] <jakemp> what c2d? I thought they were all 64 bit?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> An intel
[19:37] <alex--> advantages and disadvantages
[19:37] <xibalba> has anyone in t his chan now dont nic-bnding?
[19:37] <alex--> i can't get my mta server running aetas
[19:37] <xibalba> nic-bindongi*
[19:37] <jakemp> also, edbian pentium D is netburst architecture, so that is splitting hairs
[19:37] <terry> dante123: Create one on the wife's PC, test it, see if it works over there, then copy it to the other one and try it.
[19:37] <dante123> terry, now that makes sense
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> alex--: i suggest you research what 64bit is
[19:38] <edbian> jakemp: It's not a pentium.  but who's splitter hairs now?
[19:38] <aetas> alex--, ok well you obviously compiled it fine so what happens when you run it?
[19:38] <edbian> spittling*
[19:38] <Aleuck> I need to bridge my qemu virtual machine's network, can anyone help me?
[19:38] <alex--> no i'm stuck in compiling
[19:38] <alex--> but actually i dont need to compile
[19:38] <alex--> on my linux desktop i just open the file and it works
[19:38] <alex--> but on my linux server it gets me a access denied
[19:38] <alex--> or segmentation fault
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Jakemp: its in a dell d420  dual core 1.2ghz. 32bit architecture
[19:39] <blackhawk> hey everyone
[19:39] <shj> i just installed ubuntu in my brother laptop and @ first boot it showed me msg says something like "due to lack graphic capabilities it unity wont be able to work" and so it switched me to gnome ""no effects .... i installed the graphic card drivers but still i cant run gnome or unity i just have gnome "no effects"!
[19:39] <ikonia> alex--: what are you trying to compile ?
[19:39] <blackhawk> is this the right place for help?
[19:39] <alex--> mta-server
[19:39] <jakemp> ActionParsnip, a dell latitude?
[19:39] <ikonia> blackhawk: if it's ubuntu help, sure
[19:39] <blackhawk> cool
[19:39] <blackhawk> well i installed ubuntu and everything is fine with me till now except one problem,i'm dual booting ubuntu with windows 7,i once logged into windows and it gave me a message to restart then i restarted,everything is fine but on next restart,it didn't give me the screen which make me choose which os do i want to get into and if i don't choose it would go to ubuntu,this page didn't appear and it gave me an error and there was somthing like this written,"Grub
[19:39] <blackhawk> rescue>" or something like that,i had to reinstall ubuntu and everything came back alive,i think it is a problem between the two booting managers of windows and ubuntu,so is there something to unify both of them so this won't happen again??!!
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> jamesbond2: yes
[19:39] <jakemp> heh close enough
[19:40] <aetas> alex--, something else is going on then...if its access is denied then it means you dont have executability set or you aren't running with necessary privileges
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> ;-)
[19:40] <ikonia> !dualboot | blackhawk
[19:40] <ikonia> blackhawk: that url should explain it to you
[19:40] <shj> mmm ... can anybosy help me here plz!?
[19:40] <alex--> i get access denied with root
[19:40] <shj> anybody
[19:40] <alex--> or i get segmentation fault
[19:40] <ikonia> alex--: you shouldn't be root
[19:40] <alex--> why not
[19:40] <ikonia> alex--: the root account is locked, you shouldn't be able to be root
[19:40] <alex--> then i have enough privileges
[19:40] <alex--> no it's not
[19:40] <alex--> i changed the password of it
[19:41] <alex--> and now i can access it
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: then you should know what you're doing
[19:41] <alex--> otherwise i can't edit my websites
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: if you know enough to change the password on root, so you know better than the ubuntu developers
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: yes, you can, that's what sudo and permissions changes are for
[19:41] <blackhawk> thanks ubutto i'll read it now
[19:41] <alex--> how to open the terminal file manager with sudo?
[19:41] <Aleuck> Hi, I have a host ubuntu server with ubuntu serveras guest OS... I need to start the guest OS on qemu-kvm in network bridging mode. can anyone help me?
[19:41] <alex--> to access my websites? because virtualmin places them into another home dir
[19:42] <llutz> alex--: sudo mc
[19:42] <alex--> thx
[19:42] <Spikestuff> How do I change my workstation or computer name on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:42] <llutz> !hostname | Spikestuff
[19:42] <jakemp> ActionParsnip, that's not a core2duo, it's a core duo
[19:42] <shj> guys! how can i activate effects and unity ?!
[19:42] <alex--> *** The curl-config script could not be found. Make sure it is
[19:43] <alex--> *** in your path, and that curl is properly installed.
[19:43] <alex--> *** Or see http://curl.haxx.se/
[19:43] <alex--> configure: error: Library requirements (curl) not met.
[19:43] <edbian> shj: What video card do you have?
[19:43] <shj> invida
[19:43] <shj> geforece
[19:43] <ikonia> alex--: you need curl
[19:43] <alex--> ok
[19:43] <seanzy> ugg i started playing around with ccsm and now my launcher is gone
[19:43] <alex--> i insatlled it now
[19:43] <alex--> apt-get install curl
[19:43] <alex--> same error
[19:43] <ikonia> alex--: what is mta-server the thing you're trying to build
[19:44] <alex--> ikonia: i dont understand you
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: no, the curl libraries and development packages, not the binary
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: what does "mta-server" do ?
[19:44] <edbian> shj: what driver are you using?
[19:44] <alex--> host mta server ?
[19:44] <shj> edbian : recommended one!
[19:44] <alex--> ikonia: how to install the libraries and development packages?
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: mta as in "mail transfer agent"
[19:44] <wols> alex--: what is this software you are trying to build?
[19:44] <alex--> game server
[19:44] <alex--> for gta san andreas
[19:44] <edbian> shj: which one is that?  proprietary or open source?
[19:44] <alex--> multi theft auto
[19:45] <wols> alex--: apt-cache search curl |grep curl |grep dev
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl-ocaml-dev - OCaml libcurl bindings (Development package)
[19:45] <alex--> libflickcurl-dev - C library for accessing the Flickr API - development files
[19:45] <alex--> libghc6-curl-dev - GHC 6 libraries for the libcurl Haskell bindings
[19:45] <shj> edbian : its proprietary
[19:45] <alex--> liblua5.1-curl-dev - libcURL development files for the Lua language version 5.1
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl4-gnutls-dev - Development files and documentation for libcurl (GnuTLS)
[19:45] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl4-openssl-dev - Development files and documentation for libcurl (OpenSSL)
[19:45] <moegreen> hey guys whats a good desktop widget people are using to monitor their system as far as ram, cpu temp, load, etc...?
[19:45] <edbian> shj: Which one then?  (sudo lspci -k will tell you exactly which)
[19:46] <Galaxor> Hey, I'm looking for libgcj.a.  It doesn't seem to come with libgcj.a.  Is there another package that includes it?
[19:46] <alex--> wols: http://pastebin.com/Gbguecn3
[19:46] <ikonia> alex--: sorry to be awkward, but multi theft auto is a windows server, I can't see a linux version
[19:46] <jen_> ello
[19:46] <alex--> http://linux.mtasa.com/
[19:46] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[19:46] <ikonia> alex--: thank you
[19:46] <Stockholm_Angel> TURN ON THE NEWS NOW huge explosion and attack in norway
[19:47] <alex--> every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault
[19:47] <alex--> so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:47] <ikonia> alex--: the mta site says it's binary files, you don't compile it
[19:47] <edbian> ikonia: How do you know it was a lie?
[19:47] <dr_willis> alex--:  and how are you running it?
[19:47] <alex--> every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault, so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:47] <alex--> ./mta-server
[19:47] <ikonia> edbian: didn't say it was a lie
[19:47] <edbian> ikonia: Just OT for the channel?
[19:47] <alex--> dr_willis: ./mta-server
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  its a windows app. use wine.
[19:48] <alex--> it's not a windows app
[19:48] <alex--> it's for linux
[19:48] <ikonia> edbian: yup, and it happens with this user all the time
[19:48] <shj> edbian : mmm.... i got this from additional dirvers (NVIDIA graphic driver (version current) [recommended ]
[19:48] <alex--> :\
[19:48] <ikonia> dr_willis: there is a windows erver too
[19:48] <dr_willis> then chmod +x it.
[19:48] <ikonia> dr_willis: linux sorry
[19:48] <alex--> i already did
[19:48] <shj> edbian : is this helpful
[19:48] <ikonia> alex--: ok - so the file is a binary file, you don't need to compile it
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  you on 32 or 64bit?
[19:48] <alex--> alex--	every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault, so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:48] <alex--> 64 bit
[19:48] <edbian> shj: It's too vague.  I need you to use sudo lspci -k  to see which driver is being used.
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  it may be a 32bit binary.
[19:48] <ikonia> alex--: ok, so you know it's for a 32bit OS
[19:48] <Galaxor> I have some java source code.  I want to compile it down to native code and put it on a machine that doesn't have gcj or java installed, so I figured I'd compile it statically.  But I don't have libgcj.a.  Is there any package that contains that file, or do I have to build it myself?
[19:49] <alex--> ikonia: yes
[19:49] <alex--> it is a 32 bit binary
[19:49] <ikonia> alex--: the website says "The package is built on and for 32bit systems.
[19:49] <ikonia> alex--: it's quite clear
[19:49] <alex--> and?
[19:49] <alex--> how to run it?
[19:49] <shj> edbian : VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1)
[19:49] <shj> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0110
[19:49] <acicula> Galaxor: apt-file might help you locate the package i think
[19:49] <dr_willis> !find libgcj.a
[19:49] <shj> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[19:49] <frank123> hello I am having issues with the "mute" key. "volume-up" and "volume-down" works well, but with the update "mute" does not work no more. The hardware is a thinkpad sl 510. xev does not recieve signals from the key. before the update it worked.
[19:49] <shj> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[19:49] <acicula> !find apt-file
[19:49] <Tigerboy> Regarding Gnome 2 how to I change settings like make it so I can single-click an icon on the desktop to launch it
[19:49] <edbian> Galaxor: any java code requires the JVM (java) to run.  That is the point of java actually.
[19:50] <aetas> alex--, I thought this was something you compiled.  its a 32bit binary they gave ya?
[19:50] <frank123> here I found a tutorial, about kernel modification how it could be fixed, but it seems to complicated for me. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SL_Driver_on_Ubuntu
[19:50] <Galaxor> acicula: Cool, thanks.
[19:50] <alex--> yes it is
[19:50] <alex--> but some guy said: compile it yourself
[19:50] <frank123> can you please fix the kernel for this hardware in the next update?
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: so a.) it's not a compile you're trying to do b.) it's a 32bit binary running on a 64bit system
[19:50] <alex--> so i'm trying to
[19:50] <edbian> shj: So kernel driver in use is nvidia :)
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: ok then ask that guy for support
[19:50] <alex--> he's gone
[19:50] <alex--> nobody answering
[19:50] <Spikestuff> Now once I edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and perform the hostname command, should I reboot to implement the changes?
[19:50] <Galaxor> edbian: not if you compile it to native code with gcj.  That is the point of gcj.
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: I'm looking at the dependencies on the package and I don't think it's going to work on 11.04
[19:50] <alex--> all offtopic talk
[19:50] <edbian> shj: the first thing you said is just the card which is useful because it has the number 7300 :)
[19:50] <shj> edbian : yes! but i cant run unity!
[19:50] <dr_willis> !hostname | Spikestuff
[19:50] <alex--> ikonia: i have 10.04 lts 64 bit
[19:50] <TheCyph3r> what does unity have over standard gnome?
[19:51] <edbian> Galaxor: OH RLY?! :D
[19:51] <Spikestuff> I already did that, dr_willis, but my hostname is still the same.
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: Hmmm it looks like it's designed for 32bit systems, which is why it's built for 32bit stuff
[19:51] <dante123> terry, u still there?
[19:51] <edbian> shj: Yes, I know that.  Hang on I have to look something up.
[19:51] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  well 'standard' gnome (aka gnome2) is being phased out.
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: the dependencies suggest it's not going to build 64bit
[19:51] <dr_willis> Spikestuff:  you missed a step then i am guessing.
[19:51] <shj> edbian : sure! thanks! for trying :)
[19:51] <alex--> ikonia: how to make it work then?
[19:51] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Why??
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: use it on a 32bit system,
[19:51] <dr_willis> Spikestuff:  do the changes then reboot.
[19:52] <aetas> alex--, whats the link for this thing?
[19:52] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  the gnome devs have decided to move on.
[19:52] <alex--> i dont have 32 bit installation
[19:52] <alex--> aetas: http://linux.mtasa.com/
[19:52] <frank123> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SL_Driver_on_Ubuntu
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: boo...maybe I'll just stick with 10.04 forever :P
[19:52] <ikonia> aetas: has quite good documentation
[19:52] <Tigerboy> anyone know what file or program to use for gnome 2 settings?
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: btw, I found a way to rename all of those pictures very quickly
[19:52] <edbian> shj: Could you put the output of sudo lspci -k and sudo lsmod    into this website and give me the link it give you?  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Thunar File Manager did the job :-)
[19:52] <edbian> shj: This is called pastebin
[19:53] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  rox-filer has similer features.
[19:53] <aetas> alex--, lol this is mta?  I used to work on it :p
[19:53] <shj> edbian : sure just a minute!
[19:53] <alex--> aetas: what do you mean?
[19:53] <Tigerboy> anyone can use standard gnome by just choosing classic decktop after you click the username in the log on screen
[19:53] <aetas> alex--, <-- programmer
[19:54] <dante123> how to get out of gui and drop into command line to run sudo Xorg -configure ??????
[19:54] <alex--> you are mta sa programmer?
[19:54] <edbian> shj: thanks
[19:54] <edbian> dante123: ctrl + alt + F1
[19:54] <shj> edbian : do you want the full output or just the one related to the graphic card!?
[19:54] <aetas> alex--, I used to help them with it but it was years ago
[19:54] <edbian> shj: The whole thing
[19:54] <edbian> shj: Easier for you :)
[19:54] <alex--> :)
[19:54] <alex--> can you help me out now?
[19:54] <shj> edbian : :) ok!
[19:54] <aetas> alex--, I have 64bit too, lemme try my luck
[19:56] <aetas> alex--, The MTA:SA server currently cannot be properly compiled in 64-bit mode. Instead, you should compile it in 32-bit mode and run it using 32-bit compatibility mode (use the -m32 flag).
[19:56] <shj> edbian : here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/650198/
[19:56] <edbian> shj: reading...
[19:56] <alex--> ./mta-server -m32 ?
[19:57] <edbian> shj: Missing the output of sudo lsmod    :)  Can I get another one with that in it?
[19:57] <acicula> aetas: not all 32bit dependencies might be available though?
[19:58] <CharlieM2304> Hi everyone! does anyone recommend me any firewall software to control the local network?
[19:58] <aetas> acicula, yeah you need the 32bit libraries
[19:58] <shj> edbian : sure! here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650199/
[19:59] <edbian> shj: No.  That's sudo lspci -k     I need sudo lsmod
[19:59] <shj> edbian : oh! sorry!
[19:59] <Darkfd> anyone know where ubuntu-tweak is hiding on irc?
[19:59] <edbian> shj: It's k
[19:59] <acicula> aetas: yeah but i mean on 64bit pnly some libs are repackaged as 32bit, so any nonstandard dependencies youd need to add
[19:59] <Aleuck> Hi, I have a host ubuntu server with ubuntu serveras guest OS... I need to start the guest OS on qemu-kvm in network bridging mode. can anyone help me?
[20:00] <acicula> Aleuck: look up libvirt, that makes doing that pretty easy, detailed documentation on how to setup bridging on the libvirt site as well
[20:00] <aetas> acicula, it runs on my 64big
[20:00] <shj> edbian : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650201/ .... hopefully that's what u want! :)
[20:00] <aetas> t
[20:00] <edbian> shj: Your username and computer name are strange
[20:00] <joeseph> I'm trying to setup sftp.  I have ssh and ftp setup. What resource is avaliable for a tutorial/walkthrough?  I'm having trouble googling one.
[20:00] <edbian> shj: Yes that's the correct pastebin
[20:01] <edbian> thanks
[20:01] <shj> edbian : yes! i will change later! :) i guess!
[20:02] <balakrishna> hi
[20:02] <edbian> shj: let's try removing the open source driver and reboot ok?  sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:03] <dualbootah> how do i find my flash drive in ubuntu
[20:03] <shj> edbian : so remove current driver and run that command?
[20:04] <aetas> acicula, we got it working, not sure what he was doing but its ok
[20:05] <edbian> shj: Running the command removes the open source driver nouveau  It is generally a good idea to have exactly 1 driver installed at a time.  The restart the machine.  We're going to try to test out the nvidia-current proprietary driver (which does support your card)
[20:06] <shj> edbian : ops! i just removed it!
[20:06] <edbian> shj: Which did you remove?
[20:06] <edbian> shj: What command did you run?
[20:06] <Kazisho> >mfw Americans call a tutti frutti point and shooty a "gun"
[20:06] <shj> edbian : i used "additional drivers"
[20:07] <edbian> shj: That's fine.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:07] <edbian> shj: I don't like using that 'additional drivers' gui because it is buggy and a liar :P
[20:07] <shj> edbian : i runed the command : sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:07] <edbian> shj: good, so we don't have to do that agian.
[20:07] <edbian> shj: restart then
[20:08] <shj> edbian : ok
[20:08] <slim_gaza> hey guys is 11.04 any good yet, i tried it wen if first came out but unity just made me revert plus i have an acer timeline 4810 so it isn't powerful
[20:09] <edbian> slim_gaza: unity runs great on my netbook.  One of it's strong suits is small screens.
[20:10] <slim_gaza> edbian, so i take 11.04 is stable?
[20:10] <edbian> slim_gaza: Not as stable as 10.04 or Debian
[20:10] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, has one would say, "stable...ish"
[20:11] <slim_gaza> edbian, PhoenixSTF   ah! i'll just stick to my good o 10.10
[20:11] <shj> edbian : nothing has changed!
[20:11] <edbian> slim_gaza: sure :)
[20:11] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, thats a bad choice
[20:11] <edbian> shj: alright  so nvidia-current does not help (I didn't expect it to)
[20:11] <edbian> shj: We have many more options.  Before we switch drivers can you give me the output of dmesg in a pastebin?
[20:11] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, but if it holds until the 12.04 comes out
[20:12] <slim_gaza> PhoenixSTF, why is it bad?
[20:12] <edbian> shj: Then sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current    and sudo apt-get install nvidia-173   and restart again
[20:12] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, i think 10.10 has only 1 year or 2 of updates qhile the LTS has 3 or 4
[20:12] <ikonia> non LTS version have 18 months, LTS versions have 3 years on the desktop 5 on the server
[20:12] <acicula> slim_gaza: no its not, though it seems not everyone agrees with the choice of windowmanager, but you can just use the classic gnome look if you want
[20:13] <shj> edbian : sure!
[20:13] <slim_gaza> PhoenixSTF, oh
[20:13] <acicula> as in,its not bad
[20:13] <edbian> shj: awesome
[20:13] <slim_gaza> acicula, okay, i'll give it a spin
[20:13] <PhoenixSTF> ikonia, thanks for the info ;)
[20:13] <acicula> PhoenixSTF: 18 months for normal, 3 year for LTS, 5 year for Server
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> 11.04 its good but if it is a production entreprise enviroment i would stick to a lts
[20:14] <shj> edbian : here is the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650209/
[20:14] <acicula> oh ikonia posted that already, nvm
[20:14] <edbian> shj: k, not runt he apt-get commands and reboot while I read.
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> acicula, all server versions?
[20:14] <acicula> PhoenixSTF: no just LTS
[20:14] <edbian> shj: wait
[20:14] <edbian> shj: there is a whole bunch of stuff about nouveau in here.  I thought we purged that?
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> acicula, ty :)
[20:15] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:15] <dante123> if i want ubuntu 11.04 to use xorg.conf file.......do I put it in etc/X11 or is there a new place it needs to be for 11.04?
[20:15] <acicula> dante123: same old place
[20:16] <edbian> dante123: /etc/X11   :)
[20:16] <shj> edbian : ok!
[20:16] <slim_gaza> fresh install or upgrade which is better?
[20:16] <edbian> shj: ok, so what was installed and what was removed?
[20:16] <PhoenixSTF> dante123, ususaly those things dont change on ubuntu/debian
[20:16] <slim_gaza> got my stuff on dropbox anyway
[20:16] <acicula> slim_gaza: id just upgrade
[20:17] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, IMO fresh... but safe upgrade will do the trick but a lot of trash will be acumulated
[20:17] <terry> dante123: No, that's the right place.
[20:17] <slim_gaza> acicula, PhoenixSTF  thanks
[20:17] <terry> /etc/X11
[20:18] <shj> edbian : nothing removed as nivida was not found! and nivida-137is still in download ... slow connection!
[20:18] <slim_gaza> Is it only me, or are u guys tempted by the new macs and lion?
[20:18] <acicula> slim_gaza: some cruft will remain when you upgrade, but its marginally mostly, i survived 6 consequtive upgrades without any adverse effects. just gotta watch out if you have customized things like nvidia drivers installed by hand
[20:18] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, im with acicula on this one, safe-upgrade it, if you fell it isnt good just fresh install
[20:18] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau        This needs to happen.  Did it?
[20:18] <edbian> shj: without errors?
[20:18] <slim_gaza> aright guys thanks, upgrading now
[20:18] <rww> slim_gaza: It's just you and #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <PhoenixSTF> LOL
[20:19] <dante123> terry, okay i think i made a xorg.conf from my wifes computer and ubuntu 11.04 livecd.....will try same file on the other computer
[20:19] <slim_gaza> haha very funny rww
[20:19] <shj> edbian : home@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[20:19] <shj> Reading package lists... Done
[20:19] <shj> Building dependency tree
[20:19] <shj> Reading state information... Done
[20:19] <edbian> shj: don't do that!
[20:19] <FloodBot1> shj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <shj> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[20:19] <shj>   dkms screen-resolution-extra
[20:20] <slim_gaza> rww i am sure you are probably drooling over the apple store's site at this very moment :P
[20:20] <ANdrw> _12321
[20:20] <acicula> slim_gaza: take a hint when its offered?
[20:21] <shj> floodbot1 : sure! sorry for that!
[20:21] <edbian> shj: I don't care about those extra packages right now.  We'll clean them all up when we're done.  Did you do this:  sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:21] <slim_gaza> acicula, sure just mocking about
[20:22] <slim_gaza> thanks anyways for the info guys
[20:22] <acicula> slim_gaza: thats what -offtopic is for ;)
[20:22] <shj> edbian : just a moment its installing nvida-173 now!
[20:23] <edbian> shj: k
[20:23] <shj> edbian : ok! i ran the command
[20:23] <blackhawk> is the grub app come already installed in ubuntu?
[20:23] <aetas> guys whats the command that brings up an ncurses dialog that you can implement in a shell script?  cant remember the name :/
[20:23] <edbian> shj: ok, so nvidia-173 is installed.  and nouveau is purged?
[20:23] <aetas> it was like "dialog" or something
[20:24] <edbian> shj: restart and if it doesn't work then give me dmesg in a pastebin again
[20:24] <shj> edbain : it says "not installed so not removed"
[20:24] <rww> !info dialog | aetas
[20:24] <rww> so yes, dialog :P
[20:24] <edbian> shj: that's what the nouveau purge command said?
[20:24] <aetas> rww, thats not it is it?
[20:25] <alex--> rww: The program 'dialog' is currently not installed.
[20:25] <aetas> lol yeah I guess it is
[20:25] <rww> aetas: looks like it is to me :|
[20:25] <rww> alex--: and?
[20:25] <shj> edbian : it says : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is not installed, so not removed
[20:25] <alex--> is there any other way
[20:25] <alex--> by not installing it?
[20:25] <xibalba> hey guys
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, ok alex yeah do read
[20:25] <xibalba> has anyone here done dual nic-bonding
[20:25] <edbian> shj: strange... ok restart and give me the output of dmesg again
[20:25] <rww> ,lastlog alex--
[20:25] <xibalba> like having a bond0 and bond1 interface?
[20:25] <alex--> read?
[20:25] <rww> eep
[20:25] <alex--> or dialog?
[20:25] <Caelum> What is the windows installer? Does it run ubuntu in some sort of VM? Is it better than using VirtualBox?
[20:25] <xibalba> anybody?
[20:25] <shj> edbian :
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, dialog draws a little ncurses GUI but if they're not shipping it default then use read
[20:25] <edbian> shj: restart and give me dmesg   and lspci -k and lsmod
[20:25] <xibalba> i've been asking for hours here, but too much data flies by
[20:25] <shj> edbian : ok!
[20:25] <alex--> i just want plain text
[20:25] <edbian> shj: k great
[20:25] <alex--> not a dialog
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, read
[20:25] <rww> Caelum: no, it runs Ubuntu on the actual hardware with the root partition mounted to a loopback filesystem in C:\wubi
[20:25] <terry> dante123: See my pm
[20:26] <RobinJ> what the shit?
[20:26] <xibalba> i've also posted to the mailing list, but my email has gone through yet
[20:26] <Caelum> rww: oh I see, thank you
[20:26] <RobinJ> ubuntu just froze.... how can i flter all those useless crap out of my dmesg logs?
[20:26] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, in terminal?
[20:26] <RobinJ> i need to see what caused the error, not things about my wireless
[20:27] <RobinJ> Phoenix6780: GUI or terminal, doesnt matter
[20:27] <dante123> terry see my reply
[20:27] <edbian> RobinJ: It puts most recent stuff at the bottom of dmesg.  There is a time stamp next to it.  The freeze is probably the most recent thing.
[20:27] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, cat "File" | grep "parameter you are searching for"
[20:28] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, example, cat /var/log/secure | grep login
[20:28] <RobinJ> ed1703: only the timestamps arent readable to human beings xd
[20:28] <aetas> RobinJ, so "dmesg | grep login"
[20:28] <RobinJ> parameter...what parameter
[20:28] <edbian> RobinJ: They're second from when the computer started.
[20:28] <xibalba> is there a more advanced ubuntu channel
[20:28] <xibalba> where someone could answer this?
[20:28] <xibalba> #ubuntu-server is quiet, no one responds
[20:28] <ikonia> xibalba: why do you need a more advanced channel
[20:28] <acicula> xibalba: do you have a specific question?
[20:28] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, parameter is hwat are you lokiin for in the line, if it says Login, Robin, Error or something
[20:29] <aetas> xibalba, you can ask but let em know in advance so you don't get chased out
[20:29] <xibalba> ikonia , acicula , yes i do have a specific question
[20:29] <ikonia> xibalba: this channel is more than capable of answering simple things like nic bonding
[20:29] <ikonia> xibalba: then ask it
[20:29] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, try the example i told you you get the picture
[20:29] <RobinJ> Phoenix6780: i know how grep works...... but how do i know whats important in the dmesg logs
[20:29] <xibalba> ikonia , let me repost my whole Q. I started asking a few hours ago, can you hang on just a moment?.
[20:29] <ikonia> yes
[20:29] <blackhawk> anyone know if grub is preinstalled in ubuntu?
[20:30] <xibalba> ikonia , this is my interface config from /etc/network/interface -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/650125/
[20:30] <acicula> blackhawk: its installed during installation yes
[20:30] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, your computer crashed? try searching for the time it whent down!
[20:30] <xibalba> i have also tried using - inplace of _
[20:30] <justine777w> Hello. I just downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 to my dell laptop but my wireless is disabled and I am unable to click on it to enable it. I do not know why this is happening. Help?
[20:30] <xibalba> so putting - did the trick, however only bond0 come up
[20:30] <ikonia> xibalba: ok
[20:30] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, sorry but i dont Know more hoe to do it.
[20:30] <xibalba> and bond0 is showing it's down and in a RoundRobin setup, when I'm trying for fail over
[20:30] <blackhawk> good,so it over writes the windows boot manager
[20:30] <RobinJ> would be around 22:27... but the dmesg timestamps arent actually timestamps as human beings would write them down are they
[20:30] <shj> edbian : nothing has changed! dmesg output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650215/
[20:31] <Daghdha> I am streaming a video from my unbuntu over SMB. runs fine. Untill i delete a file from the same volume remotely. Then it stops untill the the disks from my raid have wakened. Sound familar/logical?
[20:31] <blackhawk> then why did i had problems booting
[20:31] <acicula> justine777w: can you try connecting a cable and let ubuntu update first?
[20:31] <ikonia> xibalba: how are you trying to fail it over ?
[20:31] <Daghdha> the raid is a totally different volume.
[20:31] <acicula> blackhawk: idk, what do you see at boot?
[20:32] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm trying to use bond-mode 1, ut it looks like is defaulting to bond mode 0
[20:32] <justine777w> acicula: yes, i updated and everything as well as restarted. it still does not work.
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: what makes you think that
[20:32] <xibalba> i can only do screen captures now because i only have IPMI access
[20:32] <shj> edbian : and lsmod : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650217/
[20:32] <xibalba> ikonia , how do you propose i uplaod some screen shots?
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: I don't want screen shots
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: I want to know why you think it's running in mode 0
[20:32] <acicula> justine777w: does the Additional driver tool list a driver for the wireless?
[20:32] <edbian> shj: reading...
[20:33] <blackhawk> acicula it gives me "error" and "grub rescue"
[20:33] <xibalba> ikonia , ok. I checked /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[20:33] <xibalba> i cat'd that file.
[20:33] <ikonia> xibalba: and it shows mode 0 ?
[20:33] <edbian> he quit
[20:33] <edbian> wow
[20:33] <blackhawk> just black screen with those
[20:33] <edbian> shj: You're back
[20:33] <acicula> blackhawk: did you install on a usb disk?
[20:33] <blackhawk> yes
[20:33] <edbian> shj: I am NO CLUE why nouveau is running instead of nvidia.  It isn't even installed!  Can I see sudo lspci -k please?
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , i guess not it's saying "bonding Mode: faul-tolerance (active-backup)"
[20:34] <blackhawk> no,sorry,i did it FROM a usb
[20:34] <xibalba> so that is correctly setting bond-mode 1
[20:34] <edbian> Why is nouveau running on shj's system even though he has purged xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  ??
[20:34] <ikonia> xibalba: right, so it's running in the right mode
[20:34] <justine777w> acicula: where can I find that? I know I have wireless on this laptop. I had 10.10 before but it crashed so I installed 10.04. Now the wireless will not work. I had to do something before when I had 10.10 but I do not remember what it was,
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , ok well that sa good start from where i was before
[20:34] <boywonder> hi,im trying to recover some hd space on a win partition,ive currently got the un partitioned space/formated,can anyone point me in the right direction of what i need todo or use gparted is proving un realiable?
[20:34] <xibalba> but my bond1 interface is not found
[20:34] <shj> edbian : i had a connection problem >> sure!
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , i tried ifconfg bond1
[20:34] <xibalba> and it says no device
[20:35] <edbian> shj: what?
[20:35] <alex--> how to prompt a user in ubuntu server
[20:35] <edbian> shj: oh, with you quitting and joining?
[20:35] <alex--> echo, and if he presses y then do thing1
[20:35] <ikonia> xibalba: does ifconfig show eth2 and 3 ?
[20:35] <alex--> and if he presses n then do thing2
[20:35] <alex--> how
[20:35] <ikonia> alex--: that's not very easy to do
[20:35] <acicula> blackhawk: are there multiple partitions on that disk? probably a bios issue preventing grub from seeing its boot files at boot, i had it too, solved it by making a small partition holding /boot at the start of the disk. it still gives errors but will boot (eventually)
[20:35] <shj> edbian : here is the output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650219/
[20:35] <alex--> ikonia: any other way?
[20:35] <alex--> because i want to ask the user if he want's to edit
[20:36] <edbian> shj: reading...
[20:36] <alex--> otherwise lets continue the script
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: I just said it's not very easy, I didn't suggest a method
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia , checking
[20:36] <alex--> hmm :P
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: you'd have to write a shell script wrapper
[20:36] <edbian> shj: nouveau is still listed there too!!!
[20:36] <alex--> a what?
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia , yes ifconfig shows eth0-3
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: a shell script to act as a wrapper
[20:36] <edbian> shj: Hang on...
[20:36] <alex--> what's that?
[20:36] <acicula> justine777w: you had 10.10 working before? how old is this laptop? do you have a brand name/model?
[20:36] <shj> edbain : ok! sure! :)
[20:36] <boywonder> ill wait patiently thanks
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia,  I have a total of 2 NIC cards in the server, each card is dual port
[20:36] <edbian> shj: open synaptic and search for the word nouveau
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Hello whitehats.. Please I have a serious problem... Any CD i insert into my ubuntu (11.04) machine's drive does not boot. I am trying to create a virtualbox. VM installs but when it's time to boot from the CD I get an error saying "FATAL: No bootable media found! System halted". I tried the same CD on another person's PC and it reads correcty. Please help, why can't my drive detect the XP boot CD?
[20:37] <ikonia> alex--: a shell script is a set of commands put together to do what you tell it to
[20:37] <ikonia> xibalba: ok, good news is that it's seeing the 2 physical nics
[20:37] <ikonia> xibalba: are both dual port cars the same model/brand ?
[20:37] <acicula> justine777w: and/or ist installing 10.10 or 11.04 an option? might simply be that the wireless support for your nic was not added to 10.04 yet?
[20:37] <ikonia> wh1zz0: this is ubuntu support, not "white hats"
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Sorry
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Please help
[20:38] <justine777w> acicula: i am not sure. I guess I could put 10.10 on here since I know the wireless will work
[20:38] <xibalba> ikonia, both dual ports are not the same exact NIC card model. They ar eboth intels, I have matched the bond interfaces with the respective NIC sets. So Bond0 is using the same nic on both ports, bond1 should be using the same nic on both ports too
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: if the cd works on other machines, but not this one, it suggests your cd drive has a problem
[20:38] <shj> edbain : ok! the frameware is no installed!!
[20:38] <alex--> ikonia: can you help me with it?
[20:38] <wh1zz0> The CD drive is good
[20:38] <ikonia> alex--: no, it's quite complex
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: how do you know
[20:38] <shj> edbian : i mean firmware
[20:38] <alex--> :(
[20:38] <xibalba> ikonia , they're both Intel Pro/1000, but slightly different models
[20:38] <ikonia> xibalba: the reason I was asking to make sure both had support for bonding but all intels are pretty good so that's not a concern
[20:38] <wh1zz0> I used it to watch a movie just before I installed ubuntu 2 days ago
[20:38] <alex--> like sensors haves
[20:38] <edbian> shj: the firmware is not* or now* ?
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok - but that doesn't mean it's good now
[20:38] <alex--> "do you want to search for them (yes/no) ?"
[20:39] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[20:39] <alex--> lm-sensors does the job
[20:39] <ikonia> alex--: I know what you mean
[20:39] <shj> edbian : not!
[20:39] <shj> edbian : :)
[20:39] <acicula> justine777w: id try that then and/or move on to 11.04
[20:39] <alex--> can't you get it out of lm-sensors ?
[20:39] <wh1zz0> ikonia: I inserted another CD into the drive and it works
[20:39] <ikonia> wh1zz0: when ?
[20:39] <daniel_> hello i was wondering if anyone has hp mini 210 because im about to install ubuntu onto it and was wondering what issues i might run into and wondering if its worth it cause windows 7 is going slow
[20:39] <wh1zz0> Today
[20:39] <boywonder> wh1zz0,that to me also sounds like drive but you could try booting from the bios?
[20:39] <edbian> shj: Remove all packages with nouveau in the name.  Tell me what they all are please
[20:39] <TrD> bonsoir tout le monde
[20:39] <xibalba> ikonia , next thoughts?
[20:40] <Night-hacks> is there any Whist Card Game for Ubuntu ?
[20:40] <boywonder> can anyone help with my problem>
[20:40] <boywonder> ?
[20:40] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok - so you've proved the media is good, you've proved the drive is good, that must mean your bios is not configured correctly
[20:40] <ikonia> xibalba: just thinking
[20:40] <wh1zz0> Bios? I'm not trying to format the whole PC.. Just trying to create a win xp Virtual Box
[20:40] <xibalba> ikonia , sure thing
[20:40] <acicula> daniel_: the odds of finding soemone with the exact same hw as you arent good, but my guess is it'll work
[20:40] <zack> where am i supposed to install programs i download online?
[20:40] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ahhh, you're trying to boot a virtual box, not your machine
[20:40] <RobinJ> my screen froze for a whiel this time, anyone thinks he can help me if he takes a look at the dmesg?
[20:40] <shj> edbian : only : libdrm-nouveau1a
[20:40] <gnoke> hi folks
[20:40] <RobinJ> may be the same cause as the crash
[20:40] <edbian> shj: purge it
[20:40] <acicula> boywonder: best to ask/describe the problem you are having
[20:40] <wh1zz0> ikonia:  Yes, exacty
[20:40] <mang0> Night all!
[20:40] <gholen> Hello.. I've got a very strange problem with just about every client I could have for Messnger. I cannot connct at all. I've tried changing my pass. Updating my info and so on. NOTHING. PLEASE help.
[20:40] <gnoke> i got an error when i try to install openoffice
[20:41] <daniel_> acicula, well yesterday i put ubuntu on my dell mini and asked the same question and i got 3 responses so was just wondering
[20:41] <gnoke> is there someone that can help me?
[20:41] <ikonia> wh1zz0: you've probably not mapped your physical CD drive to the virtual CD drive of the guest machine
[20:41] <ikonia> xibalba: this one is a bit interesting.......
[20:41] <edbian> shj: and sudo modprobe -r nouveau
[20:41] <xibalba> ikonia , good i'm glad it's not newbish :)
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: there is no standard way to install programs in linux
[20:41] <RobinJ> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650223/
[20:41] <wh1zz0> ikonia: Please how can I achieve this?
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: generally you install them from the software center
[20:41] <ikonia> wh1zz0: the topic in #vbox points you at the documentation
[20:41] <xibalba> ikonia , i was at the data center for 8 hours pounding my head on the rack with this
[20:41] <ikonia> xibalba: you're using the same modes, so if one pair works, the second should
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: the problem is packaging
[20:41] <wh1zz0> Okie let me have a look, thanks.
[20:42] <boywonder> acicula, i already did, im trying to add space to a partition with which the sa
[20:42] <xibalba> ikonia , i heard somethign about a bonding limit and you may have to tune the kernel or some option somewhere
[20:42] <ikonia> xibalba: ok, this is a poor suggestions, but it's all I've got
[20:42] <shj> ednbian : it says : could not apply changes fix broken packages first!
[20:42] <zack> tensorpudding: for example, im installing http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz
[20:42] <xibalba> someone had mentioned it in this chan before but i couldn't find any documentation on this
[20:42] <zack> tensorpudding: where do I need to extract the files to, which directory?
[20:42] <gnoke> when i try to install the package "openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb" for openoffice, i got the following error: dpkg: regarding openoffice.org3.2-debian-menus_3.2-9472_all.deb containing openoffice.org-debian-menus: openoffice.org-common conflicts with openoffice.org-debian-menus openoffice.org-debian-menus (version 3.2-9472) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing openoffice.org3.2-debian-menus_3.2-9472_all.deb (--ins
[20:42] <boywonder> acicula, i already did, im trying to add space to a partition with which the space comes from unformated space if you like?
[20:42] <tensorpudding> zack: it's almost certainly source code that needs to be compiled
[20:42] <ikonia> xibalba: when you "bond" an instance of the kernel module is loaded for bonding, I'm wondering if you have a problem in that something is stopping a second instance of the module for being loaded
[20:43] <zack> tensorpudding: how would i do that then? .. ive ran this same program on windows before
[20:43] <ikonia> xibalba: I'm trying to work out what would possibly cause this
[20:43] <tensorpudding> zack: you'll have to unpack the archive, and read the instructions
[20:43] <acicula> gnoke: you cant mix debian repositories with ubuntu repositories, it breaks the package manager and your system
[20:43] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.    Any assistan
[20:43] <xibalba> ikonia , in my /etc/modprobe.d/bonding.conf i have 2 entries for obnding as specific in the ubunutu doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding , i have one for bond0 and one for bond1
[20:43] <xibalba> ikonia , thats man much appreciated
[20:43] <ikonia> xibalba: so you have an alias bond1 in your bonding.conf
[20:43] <zack> tensorpudding: the website says "you could compile it yourself, but, instead, you can get the latest binary and copy xppaut to /usr/local/bin "
[20:44] <xibalba> ikonia , correct
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: compiling software is a big issue, there is no magic solution that works for everything
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: well, is that what you downloaded?
[20:44] <ikonia> xibalba: that's what should load the module
[20:44] <gholen> I give up. If I cant connect to my class, I might as well do my work in XP or seven instead.
[20:44] <zack> tensorpudding: yeah im just curious which directory im supposed to extract to
[20:44] <edbian> shj: Why didn't you tell me you had broken packages?
[20:44] <edbian> shj sudo apt-get install -f
[20:44] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm going to message a buddy of mine that manages ubuntu boxes too
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: extract it to your desktop or wherever, and copy the binary to /usr/local/bin
[20:44] <xibalba> luckily i have IPMI on this thing
[20:44] <gnoke> acicula: so, what i have to do?
[20:45] <acicula> gholen: dont be discouraged, if noone anserwed your question it may simply be because noone has a solution
[20:45] <ikonia> xibalba: can we do a test
[20:45] <shj> edbian : i did't know that i just installed ubuntu hours ago!!!
[20:45] <zack> tensorpudding: which file is the 'binary' .. theres lots of files.
[20:45] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm all ears
[20:45] <gnoke> i have downloaded that package from the openoffice site
[20:45] <acicula> gholen: try rephrasing the problem you are experiencing and/or be more specific
[20:45] <edbian> shj: apt-get should have been saying there were.  It's ok
[20:45] <ikonia> xibalba: I'm working from memory so you may have to check some of my options out
[20:45] <tensorpudding> zack: presumably it's executable, and named xppaut
[20:45] <boywonder> what software do i use to sort out my partitions?
[20:45] <gnoke> that says to download .deb package if u have ubuntu
[20:45] <acicula> gnoke: try using the ubuntu software package manager instead of downloading deb files
[20:45] <LWade> Any idea how to correct my issue?
[20:45] <tensorpudding> zack: in nautilus, it will be shown with a characteristic icon, with gears on it
[20:46] <ikonia> xibalba: can you do an "sudo ifconfig bond1 <IP_ADDRESS> up"
[20:46] <acicula> gnoke: also if you installed ubuntu desktop then openoffice should already be installed
[20:46] <ikonia> xibalba: it should complain, what does it complain about
[20:46] <tensorpudding> zack: a purple diamond with gears in it
[20:46] <xibalba> ikonia , standby
[20:46] <zack> tensorpudding: im not sure what nautilus is.
[20:46] <winux> how do i see whether a particular process is running?
[20:46] <gnoke> acicula: i can't find openoffice packages in the ubuntu package manager
[20:46] <tensorpudding> zack: sorry
[20:46] <gnoke> i have ubuntu 11
[20:46] <tensorpudding> it's the file manager
[20:46] <th0r> gnoke: I think it has been replaced by libreoffice
[20:47] <gholen> acicula: Well. I cannot, under any circumstances connect with MSN Live, from Pidgon (first try, also first program that wouldt work) ams, empahy, Emesene. or just about anything. I have do do all my instant messgeing from the horribale ebuddy network.
[20:47] <tensorpudding> it's the equivalent of explorer in windows or finder in osx, if you want to think of it like that
[20:47] <acicula> gnoke i think its renamed/replaced with libreoffice
[20:47] <xibalba> ikonia , for this i will need to link you to screen shot
[20:47] <xibalba> unfortuantely i cannot highlight text in IPMI
[20:47] <ikonia> xibalba: just summerise
[20:47] <gnoke> ok, so it's only openoffice renamed?
[20:47] <ikonia> xibalba: don't need exact message, just give me an overview
[20:47] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.    Any assistan
[20:47] <boywonder> fgs,somthing so pitiful..and no help !!
[20:48] <edbian> shj: ?
[20:48] <ikonia> boywonder: complaing doesn't help, just wait
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: did you ask a question
[20:48] <acicula> gnoke: i think its a fork, a variation of openoffice
[20:48] <ikonia> boywonder: or pay for a support agreement from canonical.com
[20:48] <gnoke> acicula: ok, thanks
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: oh,
[20:48] <xibalba> ikonia , ok summary is it loads CAP_SYS_MODULE, which is saying its deprecated, and wants to use CAP_NET_ADMIN instead, then goes on to say no such device. In case you want a screenshot , it's here http://sandbox.vincomm.net/~reza/bond1%20error.jpg
[20:48] <tensorpudding> about partitions
[20:48] <froq> how many in here use Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:48] <ikonia> xibalba: so no such device, rats
[20:48] <ikonia> froq: why ?
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: all sorts of disk partitioning can be done using GNOME Parted
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: search for it in the software center
[20:49] <froq> ikonia, b/c I am considering upgrading to it and want to know how many use it at the moment?  I am currently using 10.10
[20:49] <boywonder> search for what
[20:49] <boywonder> ?
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gnome partition editor
[20:49] <shj> edbian : i went to synaptic and  looked nouveau .... there are too many packages will be affected!
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: or gparted, as it is often called
[20:49] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get install -f   first to fix your broken packages
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: then search for it in applications
[20:49] <acicula> gholen: are you sure its not a network problem? afaik msn works fine under pidgin or empathy. do you get any errors when you try to connect?
[20:50] <ikonia> froq: it's the current stable version, the number of people using it should have no relevance to your upgrade
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: what is it you want to do with your partitions
[20:50] <ikonia> xibalba: that is very frustrating
[20:50] <boywonder> tensorpudding,  i cant get gparted to do what i want do i have to boot from it?
[20:50] <froq> ikonia, okay.
[20:50] <Z00la> Hi all, in practice, is there any difference between dual-booting Windows&Ubuntu and using a virtual windows emmulator of some kind?
[20:50] <xibalba> ikonia , you're telling me. i'm unfamiliar with this error message.
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: what is it you want to do
[20:50] <Z00la> I mean in terms of being able to use softwares.
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: you can't edit a partition which is in use
[20:51] <boywonder> tensorpudding, i have some deleted space i want to reclaim onto my ubutu partition
[20:51] <acicula> froq: this is not a polling station
[20:51] <s3r3n1t7> Z00la, an emulator cannot run graphical programs with the same speed as an installed OS, but it's sometimes faster to use.
[20:51] <shj> edbian : i did ! ..... i get : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) :(
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: the error message isn't a problem, I just don't see why it would give it when bond0 is fine
[20:51] <xibalba> ikonia , was the screenshot helpful
[20:51] <gholen> acicula: Nope, just "connection timed out". Tested it with standalone 3g, wireless, and wire. 3 diffrent networks as wireless and wired
[20:51] <acicula> Z00la: virtualized you do not get gpu acceleration
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: a solution would be to use the ubuntu cd you used to install from
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: not massivly as you gave me good information
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: it has gparted on it
[20:51] <edbian> shj: close synaptic and run the command agian.  You can only have 1 package manager running at once
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: can we do another test ?
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: you can boot from the ubuntu cd into a  "live" environment
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , are you going to be around for a while ?
[20:52] <shj> debian : ok! :) silly!
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , i have to go into a meeting! Argh!!!
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: don't think I'm going anywhere
[20:52] <froq> acicula, I realize that since there is no election, how can it be a polling station?
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: ping me when you come back, lets see if we can fix this
[20:52] <boywonder> tensorpudding, but will gparted definatly move it
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , thanks man. I will gladly ship you a case of beer for this
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: happy to help
[20:52] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gparted can resize partitions, yeah
[20:52] <acicula> gholen:  can you connect when you reboot to windows?
[20:53] <gholen> acicula: Yep.
[20:53] <dell> When i install a program where are it's source code saved?
[20:53] <ikonia> dell: it's sourcecode isn't
[20:53] <boywonder> tensorpudding, thanks for helping, i think i might have a bootable gparted but if it dont work??
[20:53] <joki> How can i use my rams to help the performances of my system?
[20:53] <ikonia> dell: it's binary you download
[20:53] <acicula> dell its not, you can get the source code by typing apt-get source <package>
[20:53] <ikonia> joki: the linux kernel will manage your ram to give you the best performance
[20:53] <shj> debian : i get the same message .... fix broken packages first!
[20:53] <dell> ohh
[20:53] <gholen> In fact, as it seems,I can connect, but I have problems logging in, it takes a while with pidgin, but trillian, msn and so on WORKS.
[20:53] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gparted should be able to do anything which you need to do
[20:54] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.    Any assistan
[20:54] <LWade> no rush anyone just a reminder :P
[20:54] <acicula> gholen: so it works but it just takes some time to login?
[20:54] <joki> ikonia: right now is only using 11% of it. Can't i do anything to use more of it, and make it efficient ?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> acicula: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[20:54] <ikonia> joki: why do you think it's only using %11 ?
[20:55] <LWade> oh hell may not need it now
[20:55] <LWade> i just messed it u
[20:55] <LWade> p
[20:55] <gholen> acicula: ONLY with pidgin, not trillian in windows, MSN LIVE does what its told to, quite fast even
[20:55] <edbian> shj: You're butchering my name and I'm missing things you're saying :P
[20:55] <acicula> Jordan_U: no i dont
[20:55] <edbian> shj: close synaptic.  run sudo apt-get -f install
[20:55] <boywonder> tensorpudding, thank you
[20:55] <shj> debian : i did that!
[20:55] <joki> Ikonia: because that's what conky, and system monitor is telling me,
[20:56] <acicula> gholen: well no surprise there, its their own closed protocol, does pidgin under ubuntu work, if slow at logging in?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | acicula
[20:56] <edbian> shj: My name is not debian
[20:56] <LWade> well to hell with it im just going to reinstall it :P
[20:56] <ikonia> joki: that means it only needs %11 as "active" at thie moment, you'll find more will be use for things such as disk cache, and when it needs it will swap it to active
[20:56] <acicula> Jordan_U: i think you have me confused with someone else
[20:56] <Z00la> s3r3n1t7 , acicula Thanks.
[20:56] <shj> edbian : :) sorry
[20:56] <Jordan_U> acicula: Indeed, sorry.
[20:56] <gholen> acicula: Nope, nither does empahy, amsn, emesene or something else.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> blackhawk: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[20:57] <joki> ikonia: so' in another words i can't use any ram space to make my experience smoother?
[20:57] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:57] <edbian> shj: What is it saying?
[20:57] <ikonia> joki: is your machine behaving slow ?
[20:57] <shj> edbian : i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650232/
[20:58] <acicula> gholen: well empathy or pidgin support msn fine, got any other customizations done on your ubuntu like firewall settings etc?
[20:58] <gholen> acicula: None what so ever.
[20:59] <gholen> acicula: vanilla install so to speak
[20:59] <edbian> If the package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is uninstalled why is nouveau still being used?
[20:59] <lsv> how can I check if Ubuntu recognize my wireless card?
[20:59] <joki> ikonia: a bit slow, yes.
[20:59] <ikonia> joki: how much ram do you have ?
[20:59] <edbian> shj: I'm asking the channel for help.  Open synaptic and remove all the nouveau packages again.
[20:59] <designbybeck> i did a top command... saw that skype is peggin' out one of my CPUs... I tried to do a kill but it will not kill
[20:59] <acicula> gholen: then idk what else to try, double check your login credentials and let it try to connect for awhile?
[20:59] <designbybeck> any ideas how to kill it
[20:59] <ikonia> designbybeck: it maybe zombied, a reboot will clear it
[20:59] <shj> edbian : it refuses .... it says fix broken packages first!
[21:00] <edbian> designbybeck: kill -9
[21:00] <designbybeck> Ah... thanks ikonia, I was hoping to not hae to reboot right now
[21:00] <edbian> shj: what?
[21:00] <designbybeck> i tried that in top edbian
[21:00] <gholen> acicula: Done that. Nothing helps. Thats why I'm asking here :)
[21:00] <designbybeck> with the process id
[21:00] <edbian> shj: This is very strange.  apt-get -f says there are no broken packages. nouveau cannot be removed
[21:00] <edbian> I have no idea what is happening
[21:00] <edbian> designbybeck: then restart
[21:00] <shj> edbian : strange !!! but that's what synaptic says!
[21:00] <edbian> shj: Yeah.  I don't know.  I am confused
[21:00] <shj> debian : i'll try again!
[21:01] <edbian> shj: my name is not Debian
[21:01] <joki> ikonia: about 8gb ddr2 on a laptop
[21:01] <ikonia> joki: ok - so is it visually slow, or slow at doing things
[21:01] <edbian> Why would synaptic say there are broken packages when apt-get says there are not?
[21:01] <shj> edbian : sorry
[21:02] <edbian> shj: it's fine
[21:02] <joki> ikonia: visually
[21:02] <ikonia> joki: so the most realistic option is your video card and xorgs compatability
[21:02] <ikonia> joki: what video card do you have ?
[21:03] <joki> ikonia: psh, is garbage some intel integrated....
[21:03] <ikonia> joki: ok, the most obvious thing to me is that it's not configured to use it properly, or the card is not powered enough
[21:03] <ikonia> joki: your issue is not ram related
[21:03] <shj> edbian : the only package that have nouveau on it is : libdrm-nouveau1a >>>> and i get that broken package message when  i try to remove it
[21:03] <joki> ikonia: ik is most likely that, but i was asking if there was any way of putting my ram to use. It's always 10-20
[21:04] <edbian> shj: I know.  I do not know how to fix it.
[21:04] <ikonia> joki: it's already in use, you'll find that ram that's not "needed" is used as disk cache and other things,
[21:04] <ikonia> joki: then when it's needed it's returned to the active pool
[21:04] <glebihan> shj, what does it say it you run "sudo apt-get remove libdrm-nouveau1a"
[21:04] <shj> edbian : anyway! thank you very much for your effort! .... appreciated!
[21:05] <ikonia> joki: think of it as having 10 legs to pedal a bike with 2 pedals, you can only use 2 legs, no matter how many you've got
[21:05] <edbian> shj: sure, good luck!
[21:06] <shj> glebihan : broken packages
[21:06] <glebihan> shj, what is the exact message ?
[21:06] <alex--> How to 'ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm' but do this only for the tar.gz file?
[21:06] <alex--> not for the folder?
[21:06] <Eighteens> if i play a music cd, my sound card plays the first song ok, "most of the time
[21:06] <joki> ikonia: lol, you're right.. I just seen it somewhere
[21:07] <ikonia> joki: I know where you are going, but trust me, the linux kernel knows how to deal with it's memory best
[21:07] <alex--> How to 'ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm' but do this only for the tar.gz file? not for the folder?
[21:07] <ikonia> alex--: you need to untar it
[21:07] <alex--> yes
[21:07] <alex--> but then i have 1 folder with multitheft
[21:07] <shj> glebihan : here is the message : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650237/
[21:07] <ikonia> alex--: correct
[21:07] <alex--> and 1 .tar.gz file with multithefta
[21:07] <alex--> how to remove the .tar.gz?
[21:07] <Eighteens> i have ubuntu 10.04.2 lucid on this machine, been trying for months to get perfect sound, nothing seems to work, except live cd, then sound always sounds good and crisp
[21:07] <Jordan_U> blackhawk: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[21:08] <alex--> if i do ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm it will remove the folder
[21:08] <alex--> i want it to remove the file
[21:08] <boywonder> tensorpudding, i just thought of somthing, i have this machine dual booted with xp, can i just delete the xp partition or will that cause problems?
[21:08] <ikonia> alex--: rm $filename.tar
[21:08] <alex--> no ls?
[21:08] <zack> im getting 'fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory' after typing 'make' .. any idea how to fix this?
[21:08] <tensorpudding> boywonder: yes, you can delete it
[21:08] <edbian> shj: update the system first.  sudo apt-get update   and sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[21:08] <ikonia> alex--: you do know multitheftauto is not going to work on your system don't you ?
[21:08] <alex--> it's almost working
[21:08] <alex--> thanks to aetas
[21:08] <acicula> Zack you need to install the compiletime dependencies
[21:08] <shj> edbian : ok!
[21:08] <alex--> but now about this
[21:09] <edbian> shj: That will probably help.  It's not saying there are broken packages.  It's saying that what you requested will create broken packages.  I was confused about this before.
[21:09] <boywonder> tens and the boot list ting will just drop it? thanks in advance
[21:09] <acicula> so not just the library but also the -dev version of the library
[21:09] <alex--> rm $filename.tar
[21:09] <ikonia> I don't think it will work properly though when I worked through the dependencies earlier
[21:09] <philipballew> whats lvm mean when i am selecting where to install and do i want it
[21:09] <alex--> rm: cannot remove `.tar': No such file or directory
[21:09] <zack> acicula where do I get that?
[21:09] <ikonia> alex--: what is the name of the tar file
[21:09] <alex--> i dont know
[21:09] <Eighteens> if i killall pulseaudio, it will restart, then i can play music, or watch movies, but if i try to watch any other movie, or listen to any other music after the initial reboot, i get train wreck, or garbled sound
[21:09] <alex--> the script should get it with ls multitheft*
[21:09] <boywonder> tensorpudding,  and the boot list thing will just drop it? thanks in advance excuse typo?
[21:09] <ikonia> alex--: oh come on, yes you do, what is the name of the tar file that you downloaded that contains mta
[21:09] <alex--> no
[21:09] <alex--> i'm creating a script
[21:09] <alex--> to do this automaticly
[21:09] <alex--> name changes every time
[21:10] <tensorpudding> boywonder: i think so
[21:10] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: no - you're not
[21:10] <tensorpudding> boywonder: it won't interfere with booting other operating systems
[21:10] <alex--> will this work?        ls multitheftauto_linux*.tar.gz | xargs rm
[21:10] <boywonder> tensorpudding, cool stuff
[21:10] <Eighteens> i've searched forums, and tried many suggestions, should i just get a better sound card than the integrated intel-hda that it came with
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: the file name does not change
[21:10] <alex--> it does
[21:10] <alex--> mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r734.zip
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: no, it doesn't I've read the revision history
[21:10] <acicula> zack read the INSTALL file or google for the package that header file belongs to and install the development version via the software center or apt-get. the convention is that libabc has a development package called libabc-dev
[21:10] <alex--> will change in mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r735.zip or mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r736.zip
[21:11] <ikonia> alex--: don't script compiling something,
[21:11] <Jordan_U> alex--: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#for_i_in_.24.28ls_.2A.mp3.29
[21:11] <alex--> i'm not scripting to compile
[21:12] <alex--> just to download the files
[21:12] <alex--> and put it in the right folder
[21:12] <shj> edbain : another error message :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/650239/
[21:12] <ikonia> alex--: finish working it through with aetas this isn't an ubuntu issue and we are getting to the point of spoon feeding you
[21:13] <alex--> i'm stuck at read now
[21:13] <alex--> i used read VARNAME
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: work it through with aetas he was helping you earlier
[21:13] <Jordan_U> alex--: Do you plan on distributing this script ?
[21:13] <alex--> he's gone
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: this isn't an ubuntu issue, so it's offtopic for this channel
[21:13] <alex--> Jordan_U: no
[21:13] <alex--> maybe
[21:13] <alex--> actually
[21:13] <alex--> why?
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: we cut you a lot of slack earlier, but this is now getting to the point where we are having to spoon feed you, so I suggest you take it to a channel such as #bash for scripting
[21:14] <alex--> ok
[21:14] <ikonia> alex--: be aware though, #bash are quite tought on you doing your own research
[21:14] <alex--> sorry for disturbing you
[21:14] <ikonia> not a problem
[21:15] <Jordan_U> alex--: Because to be perfectly blunt, I don't think you're ready to be writing scripts that might break people's systems if things go wrong. What you are trying to do with rm is very prone to error and you might accidentily delete much more than you expected to.
[21:15] <alex--> maybe :P
[21:17] <john_rambo> just installed natty.   Getting a black screen with  a cross mouse pointer
[21:18] <gabdantas> good evening!
[21:20] <Jef91> Is there a desktop neutral tool that allows the configuration of synaptics touch pads?
[21:20] <ciss> how do i debug a boot freeze in the /sbin/init phase?
[21:21] <john_rambo> just installed natty.   Getting a black screen with  a cross mouse pointer
[21:21] <ThinkT510> !upstart | ciss
[21:21] <th0r> Jef91: synclient?
[21:23] <Jef91> what package name is that th0r?
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !find synclient | Jef91
[21:24] <Infernet> hey all
[21:25] <Jef91> ThinkT510 that is the drivers - not a desktop neutral GUI to configure them
[21:27] <townes> could someone recommend some simple/intuitive software for creating posters and things of that nature...not something bloated and ram hogging and 10,000 features...just something that does what it does
[21:27] <ThinkT510> Jef91: you first said desktop neutral tool, which is why th0r pointed to synclient that is part of the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package
[21:28] <townes> I know that's a bit of a loaded question
[21:28] <Jef91> ahh
[21:28] <townes> but maybe someone has a few ideas
[21:28] <ciss> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:28] <ThinkT510> ciss: no worries :)
[21:29] <werever> hi guys
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> townes, Inkscape, GIMP => have you actually researched this yet?
[21:29] <ThinkT510> townes: you could try libreoffice draw
[21:30] <werever> anybody can help me? I am on a live cd and need to acces to my user folder data on the hard disk, only need copy some files until I fix some GUI problems
[21:31] <ciss> ok, i added --verbose and can see now that the system hangs at: "init: plymouth post-start process (222)". any advice?
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> ThinkT510, When you're doing large format graphics, you have to have extremely high DPI, mate..."Draw" does not fit that bill. I have to put out posters (well, graphics for banners and rollups and such) and that just don't work. However Inkscape and GIMP do the trick extremely well - especially in comparison to MS based crap graphics programs.
[21:32] <ciss> weird - why is plymouth active on a server install?
[21:32] <townes> YankDownUnder, a little bit, I was just curious if people had other suggestions
[21:32] <shj> hi guys! .... how can i force nvida's card driver to work!!! ... it says in (additional dirvers) "this driver is activated but not currently in use"
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> ciss, Remove the plymouth packages on the server.
[21:32] <townes> YankDownUnder, havent looked at inkscape... scribus looked pretty complicated to me
[21:32] <townes> inkscape similiar?
[21:33] <ThinkT510> YankDownUnder: you can tell i don't have much experience in that area so i said the first thing that came to mind, your suggestions are much better though
[21:33] <townes> ThinkT510, that sounds like it might be a good way to go, office stuff is usually straight forwardf
[21:33] <werever> any body available_
[21:33] <werever> ?
[21:33] <YankDownUnder> townes, If you're wanting "so simple that it does it itself", well, you have to remember that regardless the situation, there IS a learning curve. If you're not willing the learn, the curve is quite steep.
[21:34] <townes> YankDownUnder, oh yeah absolutely, I just..... scribus is beyond me
[21:34] <townes> gimp works, I just wanted other ideas
[21:34] <blade> werever,  if you need help with something ask
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> townes, Scribus IS a bit complex, however, if you have an objective, don't let "a new tool" that is different in dialogues - throw you for a loop.
[21:34] <Jef91> darn net drops
[21:35] <Jef91> synclient is saying that it doesn't appear the synaptics driver is loaded
[21:35] <faLUCE>  hi, is there a simple calendar gui for linux that prints on the console the date when it's picked?
[21:35] <Jef91> and I don't see it in lsmod - is there somewhere else it would be?
[21:35] <townes> YankDownUnder, thanks, I really needed that encouragement... sometimes this stuff is so intimidating
[21:35] <werever> thanks blade, only need some help to remember how to login into my hard disk ubuntu files until I am in a live cd
[21:35] <YankDownUnder> townes, For that matter, anyone that doesn't know how to use Photoshop would think it's an alien - and find it hard to use. However, that being said, if you understand the objective and the tools necessary, dialogues really don't matter.
[21:35] <townes> you're right
[21:35] <blade> werever, from what os
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> townes, Cheers
[21:36] <townes> cheers mate
[21:36] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, hi im back, im booted into persistant ubuntu but its not letting me move the partition?
[21:36] <werever> I am sure there is some help in ubuntu forums or google, but I am not lucky today searching, and I have a not enought time toresearch
[21:36] <werever> I am using ubuntu 11.04 in my hard disk, wich is broken, now I am in a live cd ubuntu 11.04, and I need to login and copy some files
[21:36] <ciss> YankDownUnder: not an option. there's a whole forest of dependencies
[21:37] <zack> why can i not copy stuff to usr/bin, i get permission denied?
[21:37] <blade> werever, what os are you using
[21:37] <werever> 11.04
[21:37] <ciss> looks like plymouth is tightly integrated
[21:37] <blade> werever, you should be able to mount the drive they are on and see them
[21:37] <werever> yep
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> ciss, So the server doesn't get past that - ergo, it ain't booting into the system...ya?
[21:37] <werever> I mounted
[21:38] <werever> bur files are under my user folder, and there are private
[21:38] <werever> any ideas? )P
[21:38] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: you said resize before, not move
[21:38] <blade> werever,  they are encrypted then right
[21:38] <werever> yes
[21:38] <blade> that sounds like it's going to be a bit over my head then sorry
[21:38] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: if you want you can expand partitions, and contract them, but you can't pick them up and move them to a different part of the disk
[21:39] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  my original post said move, do i have a problem?
[21:39] <blade> werever,  i would think you would have to open the folder with terminal but i'm not sure
[21:39] <werever> blade, yes, data is encripted, file explorer say , I have no permission
[21:39] <kids> hello, can anyone assist in installing flash for firefox in edubuntu
[21:39] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, seems that it will only let me move right to left?
[21:40] <babble> hey everyone: does anybody know if there's an ubuntu build of GADMIN-HTTPD that works in natty?
[21:40] <acicula> zack: you can only write in your home directory and the /tmp directory as a normal user
[21:40] <kids> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:40] <kids> is the website I am on but do not know which version to choose
[21:40] <blade> werever, with terminal you should be able to open them but i am unsure how you would do it
[21:40] <YankDownUnder> kids, In the package manager, you can search for flash and install flash-player for Firefox.
[21:41] <TrentH> msg NickServ identify xbox360
[21:41] <ciss> YankDownUnder: we had a blackout, since then the server (10.04, virtualbox guest) doesn't boot up anymore. it idles at the named line without throwing any errors. keyboard input gets displayed, but that's about all
[21:41] <zack> "you could compile it yourself, but, instead, you can get the latest binary and copy xppaut to /usr/local/bin " .. why would it say to just copy to usr/local/bin if i cant do that
[21:41] <TrentH> Hello, everyone!
[21:41] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: if you have something like
[21:41] <acicula> TrentH: best change your password now
[21:41] <rww> !identify | TrentH
[21:41] <TrentH> heheheheheh
[21:41] <werever> blade,  what do you think is faster? fix my ubuntu boot problem or acces to my private folder? , my problem is ubuntu 11.04 says #mountall: disconnected plymouth
[21:41] <TrentH> It's alright acid
[21:41] <ThinkT510> !find gadmin | babble
[21:41] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2:  a partition A, then empty space, then partition B, then more space
[21:42] <acicula> zack: you can copy as root
[21:42] <TrentH> I'm having an issue manually installing the ATI drivers, It error's out on me when it shows the hardware I have.
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: you can expand A to the right or B to left
[21:42] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  thats what i have?
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: but you can't swamp A and B's places
[21:42] <acicula> or with root privelidges rather, but you can execute it just fine in your home directory
[21:42] <babble> ThinkT510, yeah, I saw the rest of the Gadmin packages in the repo, but I can't find one for GADMIN-HTTPD
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: this is entirely a contrived example
[21:42] <zack> acicula: how do i do that then
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: how do i know what your partition layout looks like?
[21:42] <blade> werever, i am unsure that would be a bit over my head, again i would think you could open the folder using terminal
[21:42] <YankDownUnder> ciss, You should be able to "attach" a 10.04 server CD to that VM, boot to the CD, and attempt to repair the build - it would appear (from what I've seen in the past in my clients situations) that the VM is corrupted - so start from the base filesystems on the VM and then work your way out from there...make sense?
[21:43] <roasted> hi
[21:43] <babble> and the sources posted at http://gadmintools.flippedweb.com/ are for i386
[21:43] <roasted> @ mcdonalds
[21:43] <roasted> woops
[21:43] <roasted> wrong channel
[21:43] <acicula> zack: make sure the file is executable and then in the same directory type ./ and then the filename of your program
[21:43] <Hyperling> I have a few folders that were accidentally created as root, and they contain files, which I need to delete. What's the simplest/fastest way?
[21:43] <TrentH> acicula, can you help me install 11.6 ATI driver?
[21:43] <babble> (I'm running AMD64)
[21:43] <ThinkT510> babble: doesn't seem to exist
[21:43] <Hyperling> I need to delete the actual folders too, not only the files
[21:43] <werever> blade, thats I am trying, but Its taking more time than I expected
[21:43] <acicula> TrentH: you can install ati drivers via the additional drivers tool
[21:43] <zack> acicula: its just a folder that im trying to copy over that has a bunch of files
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> Hyperling, Have you thought of using "sudo"?
[21:44] <babble> ThinkT510, there's an x86 source package for GADMIN-HTTPD here: http://gadmintools.flippedweb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=36
[21:44] <babble> ThinkT510, but the posted tarball is for 32bit/i386
[21:44] <blade> werever, i do not know enough about terminal to know the command to open it but i am sure it would be a sudo command
[21:44] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: When I use the sudo folder remove command it tells me I can't while there are files inside
[21:44] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, my partition layout is as, devsda1,devsda3,devsda5(files system),devsda6swap : i want to move devsda3 to devsda5?
[21:44] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: Is there a command to delete folders AND files?
[21:44] <acicula> zack: i understand, but you can just execute the files with the directory in your home directory as well
[21:45] <ciss> YankDownUnder: absolutely. i'll give it a try, thanks
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> Hyperling, "sudo rm -rf foldername"
[21:45] <AlexDevilLX> ubuntu different wallpapers on workspaces metacity
[21:45] <blade> werever, from the sounds of it YankDownUnder know a bit about terminal
[21:45] <TrentH> acicula, but I don't want to use FGLRX. It laggs the special things
[21:45] <kids> @yank, sorry but where do I find the package manager?
[21:45] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: I'll try it, thank you
[21:45] <acicula> TrentH: then you dont need to do anything, ubuntu should load the opensource ati drivers for you
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, the special things I mean the special effects for the graphics they lagg
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, but the newest ati drivers fixed the issue with it lagging on special effects
[21:46] <babble> ThinkT510, but thank you very much for looking for me ;)
[21:46] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: Thanks, it worked :D
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, can you tell me how to keep the installer from closing whenever it errors? Or tell me how to find out why it error'd?
[21:46] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, is there noway i can do this?
[21:46] <werever> blade, YankDownUnder, with this command am I able to open my private user folder from live cd?
[21:46] <ThinkT510> babble: sorry i couldn't help more
[21:47] <acicula> TrentH: how do you know the newer drivers will fix your graphics issue?
[21:47] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: there are ways, possibly, but they're all complex and involve backing up your files elsewhere, deleting partitions and recreating them, and moving files back onto them
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> werever, Eh? If the "private user folder" is encrypted?
[21:47] <TrentH> acicula, alot of people said online that the "newer" driver addresses the lagging issue with compizz.
[21:48] <werever> yankdownunder, yes is encrypted, I found this on google, do you think I am on the correct way?
[21:48] <werever> yankdownunder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live%20CD%20method%20of%20opening%20a%20encrypted%20home%20directory
[21:48] <acicula> TrentH: that sounds like nonsense
[21:49] <alex--> ikonia: my script is almost finished =D
[21:49] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, this sucks surely i should just be able to expand over ?
[21:49] <kids> @ Yank, found the package manager, thank you very much.
[21:49] <ikonia> alex--: I've been following you in #bash
[21:49] <zack> I'm trying to find libxfree86-devel in the synaptic package manager, any reason why its not showing up?
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> werever, Give the "short advanced way" a go - it's less, um, cluttered and more straightforwrad.
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> *forward*
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> kids, Coolbeans. Cheers
[21:50] <werever> yankdownunder, hehehe, do you know this #short advanced way#?
[21:51] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: please state exactly what you want to do
[21:51] <ThinkT510> !find xfree86 | zack
[21:51] <TrentH> acicula, can you tell me how to see the error code the installer gives me?
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> werever, Scroll down to below the initial page tag and you'll see the "advanced short way"
[21:51] <zack> i just need xlib.h :/
[21:51] <werever> yankdownunder, nice, I will try it, thanks!
[21:51] <acicula> TrentH: i dont understand
[21:52] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  as of the table i have 10 gigs of space(sda3)deleted formated whatever, i want to put this into sda5 and kill sda3
[21:52] <blade> with the ati restricted drivers can i use 2 video cards.. one monitor on each
[21:53] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, so that sda5 is 10 gigs bigger
[21:53] <Connelly> does anyone know how well supported ubuntu is on macbook pro?
[21:53] <acicula> !mac
[21:53] <TrentH> acicula, how do I get the terminal
[21:53] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: then resize sda3 and then sda5
[21:54] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: and there is an sda4 in the middle?
[21:54] <acicula> TrentH: the program is called terminal
[21:54] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, no sda4
[21:54] <tensorpudding> wher is the extra space?
[21:54] <tensorpudding> between 3 and 5?
[21:55] <acicula> TrentH: what kind of graphic issues have you been experiencing?
[21:55] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: ah, that is a bit tricky, one is a primary partition the other is logical, you would have to shrink the logical then the extended and then grow the primary
[21:56] <blade> how can i configure ATI CCC for 2 video cards
[21:56] <acicula> TrentH: please keep your questions to #ubuntu
[21:56] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: sorry wrong way round, you want the extra space going to sda5
[21:57] <TrentH> acicula, alright how do I remove fglrx? I ram ati installer through terminal...and I go to install it and it says I still have FGLRX installed?
[21:57] <TrentH> acicula, I tried apt-get purge fglrx* and it says "the following packages will be removed, FGLRX*" but everytime I redo the command it still says it's going to be removed?
[21:58] <acicula> TrentH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , especially the bit about making a deb from the installer is relevant as it makes it easier later if you want to revert
[22:00] <blade> aciula i am unsure how/if i move forward, can i run dual video cards with the restricted drivers from ATI
[22:01] <ciss> i attempted an apt-get update inside a rescue system with my root partition mounted in /. unfortunately the status hangs at 0 %. all servers are reachable. what could cause this?
[22:01] <Darklord6229> Im am having trouble getting my wireless card to work. It is a Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 card. Any Ideas?
[22:01] <acicula> blade: yeah you can
[22:01] <blade> acicula,  2 cards both with monitors on them?
[22:02] <acicula> blade yeah, you will need to run seperate X instances on both cards though
[22:02] <chrisyboy2> thinkt510 why cant i tab your name, lets start off?
[22:02] <blade> acicula,  so it's just a matter of installing the drivers and ccc and then edit the xorg file
[22:04] <chrisyboy2> ThinkT510 ?
[22:05] <fructose_> Unity/compiz seems to have gone haywire and I cant do anything except move the mouse and ctrl.alt.fx ... Is there anything I can try to restore my session without
[22:05] <acicula> blade: you dont need to run two X instances even, you do need to edit xorg though, or use a tool that configures it for you
[22:05] <fructose_> ...losinig my session
[22:05] <acicula> !Xinerama
[22:05] <acicula> start there
[22:05] <fructose_> I had windows open I did not want to lose
[22:06] <Darklord6229> Im am having trouble getting my wireless card to work. It is a Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 card. Any Ideas?
[22:06] <blade> acicula, thank you
[22:07] <fructose_> Can anyone hear me btw, or do I need to login?
[22:07] <acicula> fructose_: we can see you
[22:07] <bbird1999> fructose_: we can hear you
[22:08] <acicula> fructose_: you can try restarting the windowmanager, in a console type export DISPLAY=:0
[22:08] <blade> !dualhead
[22:08] <TrentH> acicula, how do I remove fglrx?
[22:08] <chrisyboy2> im a patient guy but i gotta say this is a funny situation im in lol
[22:08] <acicula> TrentH: deactivate the driver via additional drivers
[22:09] <acicula> fructose_: and then try compiz --replace
[22:09] <fructose_> Acicula: will i lose the windows I had open?
[22:09] <acicula> fructose_: killing the windowmanager should not kill your session or any programs you have open
[22:09] <TrentH> The driver is not activated