[12:02] <nexus> tar.bz2
[12:02] <NeoChaosX> okay, you have to extract the file's contents
[12:02] <UFO> Tar is packed to smaller size and deb package managing system so you know what you have on your system
[12:03] <NeoChaosX> then open up a terminal and go to the directory that gets created when you extracted the files
[12:05] <nexus> yup
[12:05] <UFO> Type:  Theme-Manager Theme
[12:06] <NeoChaosX> nexus: now in ther terminal, enter "./configure --prefix=/usr" (without the quotes, of course)
[12:06] <UFO> probably you need to install theme-manager, dont know?
[12:06] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:06] <NeoChaosX> UFO: he already has it installed, he needs to compile the theme
[12:06] <jeroenvrp> hi folks
[12:06] <ubuntu> kubuntu is pretty cool
[12:06] <jeroenvrp> does anyone anything about dapper's new adept-notifier?
[12:06] <NeoChaosX> nexus: when ./configure is done, then type "make". when that is done, type "sudo make install"
[12:08] <nexus> hold on im confuzed, ok i am in the directory with the .kth theme file
[12:09] <NeoChaosX> okay
[12:09] <NeoChaosX> you have a terminal opened in that directory, right?
[12:09] <Sh4d0x> is it true that kubuntu crash chances are higher then ubuntu ones?
[12:09] <nexus> yup
[12:10] <NeoChaosX> you did "./configure --prefix=/usr", correct?
[12:10] <NeoChaosX> was there an error?
[12:10] <nexus> no just ./configure
[12:10] <Sh4d0x> then i guess i stay with breezy
[12:11] <NeoChaosX> nexus: you want the "--prefix=/usr" after configure, otherwise it won't install properly
[12:11] <Sh4d0x> untill dapper is released =D
[12:11] <nexus> still get the same error, Bash: ./configure: no such file or directory
[12:11] <as_284> does anyone know a GUI software like FDISK?
[12:11] <NeoChaosX> Sh4d0x: chances of crashing in Kubuntu and Ubuntu are about the same, there's really no difference
[12:12] <NeoChaosX> nexus: what theme did you download?
[12:12] <Hobbsee> as_284: gparted
[12:12] <nexus> beauty of darkness
[12:12] <NeoChaosX> okay, lemme see
[12:12] <UFO> Hobbsee, it can do serius damage for system
[12:13] <Sh4d0x> NeoChaosX: no difference?? oh yes my dear, kubuntu is kde ;) (not that it makes that much difference) and kubuntu is muuuuch more graphicly than ubuntu
[12:13] <UFO> If you dont know what you are doing
[12:13] <nexus> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=32241
[12:13] <as_284> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:13] <NeoChaosX> thanks, nexus, lemme look at it
[12:13] <Hobbsee> UFO: indeed, so can fdisk
[12:13] <as_284> another Q, do you know where is the folder of the mailbox files?
[12:14] <NeoChaosX> mailbox? you mean the Unix mailbox?
[12:14] <UFO> nexus, do you have installed KDE 3.5.x
[12:14] <nexus> i think so, i downloaded the latest ISO for Kubuntu
[12:14] <Red_Herring> no
[12:14] <Red_Herring> that doesnt have kde3.5
[12:14] <nexus> but im pretty sure its KDE 3.5.x
[12:14] <Red_Herring> that still has kde3.4.3
[12:14] <Red_Herring> well
[12:14] <Red_Herring> lets check
[12:15] <Red_Herring> alt-space
[12:15] <NeoChaosX> oh, then i got it wrong
[12:15] <Red_Herring> hit alt-space
[12:15] <NeoChaosX> nexus: forget what I've been saying
[12:15] <nexus> ok
[12:15] <Red_Herring> what happens?
[12:15] <NeoChaosX> just run the command kcontrol
[12:15] <Red_Herring> if ya get a nice black box in teh middle of the screen with a kde logo
[12:16] <Red_Herring> its kde3.4.3
[12:16] <Red_Herring> if it has a nice slingshot
[12:16] <Red_Herring> its 3.5
[12:16] <nexus> yup, now what?
[12:16] <NeoChaosX> nexus: the control center should pop up. in the left panel, click on Appearance & Themes and then Theme Manager
[12:16] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me if there exists a shipit for kubuntu?
[12:16] <NeoChaosX> then just click "Install New Theme" and browse to the tar.bz2 file
[12:16] <nexus> ahhh, found it, cheers again
[12:16] <Red_Herring> Sh4d0x: ya
[12:16] <nexus> lol all that n it was that simple :P
[12:16] <Red_Herring> !shipit
[12:16] <ubotu> well, shipit is For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[12:17] <NeoChaosX> Sh4d0x: there will be one for Kubuntu Dapper
[12:17] <Red_Herring> nice
[12:17] <UFO> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[12:17] <Sh4d0x> thnx
[12:17] <NeoChaosX> since there's going to be a LiveCD installer for Kubuntu
[12:17] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5.1
[12:17] <ubotu> Red_Herring: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:17] <Red_Herring> !kde351
[12:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Red_Herring
[12:17] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5
[12:17] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[12:17] <Sh4d0x> i just orderd 15 ubuntu cd's, received them yesterday, but yet i saw kubuntu looks better =D it's time to order again
[12:17] <Red_Herring> Sh4d0x: noooooooo
[12:18] <Red_Herring> thats wasteful
[12:18] <NeoChaosX> Sh4d0x: they don't ship Kubuntu CDs, yet
[12:18] <Red_Herring> you realize that you can install kubuntu from ubuntu?
[12:18] <Sh4d0x> :o
[12:18] <Red_Herring> it is 100% kubuntu
[12:18] <NeoChaosX> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <Red_Herring> just by installing "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:18] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:18] <Red_Herring> thats what i do
[12:18] <jay> hi
[12:18] <NeoChaosX> installs all the necessary kubuntu files
[12:18] <Red_Herring> i never have installed kubuntu by itself
[12:18] <Sh4d0x> nice to know =D
[12:18] <jay> can someone help me with a fresh kubuntu install on a laptop?
[12:18] <Sh4d0x> i'm now on live cd
[12:18] <Red_Herring> that'll save ya some time
[12:19] <Red_Herring> jay: what about it?
[12:19] <Sh4d0x> got breezy installed (dual boot)
[12:19] <Red_Herring> i have kubuntu on my desktop
[12:19] <Red_Herring> and laptop
[12:19] <NeoChaosX> Sh4d0x: then boot into breezy and install kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <Red_Herring> can anyone help me with CVS?
[12:19] <Red_Herring> !e17
[12:19] <jay> Red_Herring: i installed breezy on this laptop, went fine.  but when it boots up, it never loads any gui
[12:19] <Red_Herring> ah yes
[12:19] <reagleBRKLN> anyone get sound working with vmware? (playing around)
[12:19] <Red_Herring> can you get the command line?
[12:20] <reagleBRKLN> urd:/e> artsdsp -v vmware
[12:20] <reagleBRKLN> artsdsp works only for binaries
[12:20] <jay> Red_Herring: it stops at the checking battery line...
[12:20] <Sh4d0x> NeoChaosX, i'll keep that in mind
[12:20] <Red_Herring> jay: type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:20] <jay> Red_Herring: i'm a newbie so i don't know how to do that.  coudl you walk me through it?
[12:20] <Red_Herring> thats not really stalling
[12:20] <Red_Herring> ok
[12:20] <Red_Herring> when it stalls
[12:20] <Red_Herring> hit ctrl-alt-f1
[12:20] <Red_Herring> log in
[12:21] <Red_Herring> then type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:21] <jay> Red_Herring: k, let me try.  i'll keep you updated.  thanks for all your help
[12:22] <Red_Herring> well
[12:22] <Red_Herring> lemme know how it goes
[12:22] <NRG88> uups
[12:22] <Red_Herring> anyone know CVS?
[12:22] <Red_Herring> i wanna install e17 using cvs
[12:22] <jay> Red_Herring: i did a bit of research on this.  does this have to do with the new ATi driver, or the fact that my laptop is a widescreen?
[12:23] <UFO> I do
[12:23] <Red_Herring> but it complains "disk full"
[12:23] <Red_Herring> which it isnt AT ALL
[12:23] <Red_Herring> jay: ati
[12:23] <Red_Herring> they suck
[12:23] <Red_Herring> you are gonna hafta do a bit of extra work
[12:23] <Red_Herring> but its not too bad
[12:23] <Red_Herring> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:23] <Red_Herring> dont do that yet
[12:23] <UFO> No they dont i got my ati x700 mobile working great on 64bit
[12:23] <Red_Herring> but thats what you are gonna need ta do when you get it working
[12:24] <Red_Herring> UFO: try getting video overlay with a tv tuner
[12:24] <Red_Herring> and then try playing opengl games
[12:24] <jay> Red_Herring: ok, so i'm at the "Configuring xserver-xorg" screen
[12:24] <Red_Herring> like doom 3 and quake 4
[12:24] <Red_Herring> then you will realize nvidia is god
[12:24] <Red_Herring> ok good
[12:24] <jay> Red_Herring: shold i let it auto detect the video hardware?
[12:24] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:24] <UFO> On laptop?
[12:25] <Red_Herring> you can always do it again if it doesnt work
[12:25] <Red_Herring> UFO: on anything
[12:25] <Red_Herring> like AMD ;-)
[12:25] <jay> Red_Herring: should i "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"  i used the default for everything else
[12:26] <Red_Herring> no
[12:26] <Red_Herring> htats what is bad about ati
[12:26] <Red_Herring> it sucks at that
[12:27] <jay> Red_Herring: which X.org server modules should be loaded by default?
[12:27] <Red_Herring> well
[12:28] <Red_Herring> i would do all that are already selected
[12:28] <Red_Herring> not mess with that
[12:28] <jay> Red_Herring: so go with the default?
[12:28] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:28] <Red_Herring> if that doesnt work
[12:28] <Red_Herring> you can change it
[12:28] <Red_Herring> as many times as you like
[12:28] <jay> Red_Herring: "Write default Files section to configuration file?"
[12:29] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:29] <UFO> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post423584
[12:29] <jay> Red_Herring: "Write default DRI section to config file"?
[12:29] <UFO> this works great with ati
[12:29] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[12:29] <Red_Herring> i would try "no"
[12:29] <Red_Herring> because that may be the problem
[12:30] <UFO> yes write it
[12:30] <Red_Herring> UFO: well...
[12:30] <Red_Herring> that was the problem when i tried it on a MAC
[12:30] <Red_Herring> and IT had an ATI card
[12:31] <jay> Red_Herring: ok, done.  do i just reboot now?
[12:31] <Red_Herring> well
[12:31] <Red_Herring> sure
[12:31] <Red_Herring> if ya dont mind waiting
[12:31] <Red_Herring> if you are impatient
[12:31] <Red_Herring> just type in startx
[12:31] <nexus> cheers all, bye
[12:32] <UFO> jay do you have 64bit prosessor?
[12:33] <jay> Red_Herring: ok i got an error saying "XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining."
[12:33] <Red_Herring> ok
[12:33] <jay> UFO: no, it's a celeron M laptop
[12:33] <Red_Herring> can you copy and paste any of this?
[12:33] <UFO> and if you are using widescreen on laptop you should get the package from ati and do the deb packages with the binary
[12:33] <Red_Herring> can you type in anything that looks important
[12:34] <jay> what am i looking for?
[12:34] <Red_Herring> something mentioning drivers, ati, dri?
[12:34] <UFO> which ati gpu its in it
[12:34] <Red_Herring> because that error says that something didnt work right
[12:34] <jay> it's Xpress 200m IGP
[12:35] <Red_Herring> :-(
[12:35] <Red_Herring> well
[12:35] <Red_Herring> i had an x200se
[12:35] <Red_Herring> and it was ok
[12:35] <UFO> ok, do you have widescreen on the laptop
[12:36] <jay> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.0": No symbols found (EE) RADEON(0): [dri]  DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI"
[12:36] <jay> UFO: yes, widescreen
[12:36] <jay> it has other "No symbols found" do you need those too?
[12:36] <benkong2> how can I get my sound to not be muted each time I login to ubuntu? It works I just have to reset the slider each time after boot to get sound.
[12:36] <Red_Herring> well
[12:37] <UFO> Ok... the ati package whic is on repsitorys does not support widescreen resolution... and you should look the link
[12:37] <Red_Herring> if there are no symbols, no
[12:37] <Red_Herring> i think it is DRI
[12:37] <Red_Herring> try running that dpkg-reconfigure
[12:37] <Red_Herring> using all of the same things as before
[12:37] <Red_Herring> cept now DONT write DRI config stuff
[12:37] <EightiesK> hey all
[12:37] <EightiesK> !deb
[12:38] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:38] <UFO> i had 5 hours fight today with ati and this was only solution to my problem
[12:39] <UFO> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post423584
[12:39] <Red_Herring> ATI == bad
[12:41] <jay> Red_Herring: i tried it 2x. one with DRI enabled and one disabled. same result
[12:41] <UFO> 3050 frames in 5.0 seconds = 610.000 FPS
[12:41] <EightiesK> I hate the new kde
[12:41] <EightiesK> :-(
[12:41] <Red_Herring> Jay:hmm
[12:41] <UFO> Why
[12:41] <heanol> UFO: how do you get that benchmark
[12:41] <heanol> ?
[12:42] <heanol> i tried running glxgears but it doesnt print anything anymore
[12:42] <Red_Herring> i would suggest pastebin
[12:42] <brexel> glxgears
[12:42] <Red_Herring> but since its on a laptop w/o internet or a gui
[12:42] <UFO> fgl_glxgears
[12:42] <Red_Herring> that would be a huge oain in the ass
[12:42] <Red_Herring> *pain
[12:42] <jay> so....
[12:42] <Red_Herring> well
[12:43] <UFO> look with fglrxinfo if you do have the 3d acceleration on
[12:43] <Red_Herring> when i have had this problem before
[12:43] <Red_Herring> and usually i just look at that output after xserver dies
[12:43] <Red_Herring> and the answer is pretty clear
[12:43] <jay> are there any other critical settings?
[12:43] <Red_Herring> but with this...
[12:43] <UFO> if you have mesa or something... you dont
[12:43] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:44] <Red_Herring> those drivers
[12:44] <Red_Herring> disable...
[12:44] <Red_Herring> the one with "gl" in it
[12:45] <jay> Red_Herring: GLcore and glx?
[12:45] <Red_Herring> ya
[12:45] <jay> Red_Herring:
[12:45] <Red_Herring> those will crash it
[12:45] <jay> k
[12:45] <jay> Red_Herring:  still write DRI or not?
[12:45] <Red_Herring> no
[12:45] <Red_Herring> that last output said clearly that it hates DRI
[12:46] <UFO> jay, have you installed the package from ati?
[12:46] <Red_Herring> and its not to worry if you get the official ATI Drivers
[12:46] <jay> no, i haven't, this is a fresh install
[12:46] <Red_Herring> Jay:do you mind getting the official ati drivers?
[12:46] <UFO> Trust me you dont get working until you got your monitor rigt
[12:46] <Red_Herring> its kinda tough from the CLI
[12:46] <UFO> right
[12:46] <jay> no, i don't mind...
[12:46] <Red_Herring> but it might be the only way
[12:46] <jay> umm, can't do it right now though...
[12:46] <Red_Herring> !ati
[12:46] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:46] <Red_Herring> !seveas
[12:46] <jay> i gotta run actually
[12:46] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:47] <Red_Herring> Jay: the ati drivers are in the seveas packages
[12:47] <jay> i'll come back in here another time and hopefully someone can help me with it
[12:47] <Red_Herring> check it out when you can
[12:47] <jay> get them from the link UFO sent me?
[12:48] <Red_Herring> Jay:you choose
[12:48] <jay> ok thanks
[12:49] <__mikem> Where do I get an mp3 decoder
[12:49] <UFO> lame
[12:49] <jay> actually, nvm, change of plans
[12:50] <lampshade> How stable is kubuntu?  Very stable or is it still kinda the new kid on the block compared to Ubuntu?
[12:50] <jay> Red_Herring: where should i download them to if i'm going to be doing it through windows on the same laptop?
[12:50] <brexel> lampshade: it is the same distro
[12:50] <lampshade> brexel:  Yeah but that really means nothing to me
[12:50] <crimsun> !tell __mikem about mp3
[12:51] <lampshade> brexel:  I mean I know what a distro is, but I have no idea considering Ubuntu is technically at some point based on debian, but I don't think that automatically means it is good.
[12:51] <brexel> laszlok: you compared ubuntu to kubuntu
[12:51] <brexel> lampshade: you compared ubuntu to kubuntu
[12:51] <brexel> sry laszlok
[12:51] <brexel> lampshade: but ubuntu = kubuntu
[12:53] <Flosoft> hey
[12:54] <Flosoft> how do I setup a Server where I can load up a Kubuntu Image (ISO) and a remote pc (LAN) fires up the image?
[12:57] <UFO> flosoft, i hadn tried it but i think you find more of it on debian site
[12:58] <UFO> Or, actually what do you mean fires up the image?
[01:00] <UFO> jay: select vesa with dpkg-reconfigure and you get the x-server running it more fun to get ati card working after that
[01:00] <jay> Red_Herring: which driver do i want?  the installer or the X-windows versions?  and if the x-windows versions, which one of those?
[01:00] <jay> or UFO
[01:00] <Red_Herring> ?
[01:00] <jay> thanks for all your help, both ofyou
[01:00] <Red_Herring> driver?
[01:00] <Red_Herring> ati
[01:00] <Red_Herring> or fglrx?
[01:01] <jay> ya, didn't you say get the ati driver?
[01:01] <Red_Herring> !fglrx
[01:01] <ubotu> I heard fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <Red_Herring> that right?
[01:01] <__mikem> I installed those packages and still have the same problem
[01:01] <jay> i don't know?...
[01:01] <jay> you tell me, haha, i know nothing
[01:01] <Red_Herring> well
[01:01] <Red_Herring> did you insatll anything?
[01:01] <UFO> fglrx
[01:01] <jay> no
[01:02] <syst> any one know of an IM client that can log you in as invisable (like msn)?
[01:03] <brexel> any?
[01:03] <UFO> can paste my xorg.conf here?
[01:03] <Red_Herring> !pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:03] <Red_Herring> USE THAT!
[01:04] <jay> Red_Herring/UFO:  so what do i need to install?
[01:04] <Red_Herring> !ati
[01:04] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:04] <Red_Herring> those drivers
[01:04] <__mikem> o now it works
[01:04] <Red_Herring> ati calls them fglrz
[01:04] <Red_Herring> *fglrx
[01:04] <UFO> do exatly what says on the link i send to you
[01:05] <as_284> hello, does anyone know where are the mbox files of the kmail? y need to backup them
[01:05] <jay> Red_Herring/UFO: or just do the VESA drivers first?
[01:05] <UFO> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8461
[01:05] <UFO> the vesa works at least
[01:05] <UFO> then you can work with ati
[01:06] <brexel> as_284: either in Mail or in .kde/share/apps/kmail
[01:06] <UFO> there is my xorg.conf... i have the 64bit prosessor
[01:08] <UFO> i had to uncomment the int10 line before everything worked fine
[01:08] <jay> UFO: are you talking to me?
[01:09] <UFO> Yes
[01:09] <jay> UFO: i don't really understand what you're talking about...
[01:10] <UFO> Try the way on the link, i really did alot of research around the net to find solution to exatly same problem you have...
[01:10] <as_284> brexel: i will chek it out, thanks
[01:10] <brexel> yw
[01:10] <fetish> hello
[01:11] <jay> UFO: BinaryDriverHowto?
[01:11] <NRG88> hm
[01:11] <fetish> can somebody help me ?
[01:11] <UFO> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423584#post423584
[01:12] <NRG88> grr
[01:12] <fetish> i use kmail
[01:12] <fetish> and i want to download all messages from gmail
[01:12] <NRG88> how can i make ame to work only on specific networks?
[01:12] <NRG88> i'm on undernet to, and i wan't to use it only there
[01:13] <NRG88> but it looks like, the ame-s go here to :)
[01:13] <fetish> but i get just inbox
[01:13] <brexel> fetish try to use imap if gmail supports it
[01:13] <as_284> brexel: thanks
[01:13] <brexel> :)
[01:14] <UFO> jay: let me know if helped in your situation
[01:14] <jay> UFO: ok thanks
[01:16] <UFO> on the morning i was thinking to throw out all kubuntu/ubuntu shit and know i actually like most the people on channels ;)
[01:17] <Ivegotaquestion> could somone kindly point me to a KDE 3.5.1 howto?
[01:17] <UFO> its on kubuntu website
[01:17] <apokryphos> ubotu: kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[01:17] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[01:17] <apokryphos> Ivegotaquestion: there :)
[01:18] <Ivegotaquestion> thanks apokryphos
[01:19] <jay> UFO: i had to do the remove the madwifi package b/c i have that wifi
[01:19] <Ivegotaquestion> I only need 1 of thoes mirrors right?
[01:20] <UFO> ok. that i didnt have to do but there are ndiswrapper for wifi cards
[01:21] <apokryphos> Ivegotaquestion: yes
[01:21] <Ivegotaquestion> ok ^^
[01:21] <jay> UFO: now i'm rremoving the included drivers
[01:21] <Ivegotaquestion> apokryphos, is there some way to remove KDE items from gnome's menu and gnome items from KDE's menu?
[01:21] <apokryphos> no idea
[01:21] <jay> and it outputted "E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-flgrx"
[01:21] <UFO> just follow step by step
[01:21] <apokryphos> Ivegotaquestion: with regard to removing gnome items from  KDE menu: not sure of any way but manually
[01:22] <jay> UFO: do i need to do anything b/c of it?
[01:22] <Ivegotaquestion> alright thanks brb
[01:22] <UFO> b/c?
[01:23] <jay> UFO: b/c of "E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-flgrx"
[01:23] <UFO> ok... you had the laptop connected with wifi?
[01:24] <jay> not connected, no
[01:24] <jay> UFO: i thought i needed to remove those packages if i had that wifi card at all
[01:25] <UFO> Did you download from ati the package for linux?
[01:26] <Ivegotaquestion> apokryphos, I'm getting a gpg error :-\
[01:26] <jay> UFO: which package?
[01:26] <Ivegotaquestion> I'ts saying the public GPG key is not avalible
[01:26] <Ivegotaquestion> W: you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:27] <Ivegotaquestion> but I've apt-get update'd 3 times :S
[01:27] <UFO> ati******.run or something
[01:27] <Hobbsee> Ivegotaquestion: you can ignore it if you like
[01:28] <Ivegotaquestion> it says the following packages have been kept back: and it lists 71 of them =\
[01:29] <Ivegotaquestion> I've found the key and imported it but I'm still getting the 71 kept back packages
[01:29] <Hobbsee> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:29] <Ivegotaquestion> thats not going to break gnome is it?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> it shouldnt do - you're on breezy?
[01:33] <Ivegotaquestion> yeah
[01:33] <Ivegotaquestion> breezy
[01:33] <Ivegotaquestion> after its done just logout and in?
[01:34] <jay> UFO: i rebooted when it said, but it's still stuck at "Checking battery state...."
[01:34] <UFO> ok... change the driver dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to vesa
[01:36] <Ivegotaquestion> brb
[01:38] <jay> UFO: how do i open a usb key?
[01:38] <UFO> No idea.
[01:39] <UFO> why?
[01:39] <jay> UFO: i had to download the drivers to my usb key since i don't have an internet connection for the laptop
[01:40] <UFO> ok. now i have to think for a while :)
[01:40] <UFO> do you own a cdwriter
[01:41] <en0x> hi someone using katapult?
[01:41] <jay> ya
[01:41] <en0x> I have problem with it my images are so ugly
[01:42] <en0x> and I dont know why
[01:44] <jay> ugh
[01:44] <UFO> jay do you have the laptop networked with the windows
[01:44] <jay> i think i know why i got those error msgs
[01:44] <jay> UFO: ? what do you mean?
[01:44] <jay> UFO: those instructions assume you're networked...
[01:45] <UFO> yep
[01:45] <jay> UFO: the laptop only has wireless...
[01:45] <UFO> ok, do you have wireless router?
[01:45] <jay> UFO: yes
[01:46] <jay> UFO: but didn't i just remove the wifi drivers?
[01:47] <UFO> so the laptop does not have ethernet?
[01:48] <jay> ya it does... i gotta find an extra cable, bbiab
[01:58] <jay> UFO: i plugged in a cable, but in the network settings, it says my eth0 interface is disabled.  how do i reenable it
[01:59] <Red_Herring> ifup
[01:59] <Red_Herring> or dhclient eth0
[01:59] <UFO> ifup eth0
[01:59] <Red_Herring> ya
[01:59] <jay> i enter this into Konsole?
[02:00] <UFO> dhclient eth0
[02:00] <Red_Herring> ya
[02:00] <UFO> yes
[02:01] <UFO> so you got xserver running with vesa?
[02:01] <jay> yes
[02:01] <UFO> great
[02:01] <jay> i got an "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[02:01] <jay> error...
[02:02] <Red_Herring> oh
[02:02] <Red_Herring> just do "dhclient eth0"
[02:02] <Red_Herring> sudo
[02:02] <jay> "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776"
[02:03] <jay> "can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Persion denied"
[02:03] <UFO> hmm..
[02:03] <jay> "Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permision denied"
[02:03] <jay> "drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted"
[02:03] <Red_Herring> ya gotta run it as sudo
[02:04] <Red_Herring> "sudo dhclient eth0"
[02:04] <jay> NICE! thanks
[02:04] <jay> ok now i'll try those commands all over again
[02:04] <UFO> try ping www.google.com
[02:04] <jay> yup works!
[02:05] <UFO> :)
[02:05] <UFO> try first atp-get update
[02:05] <UFO> and then apt-get upgrade
[02:05] <Ivegotaquestion> How can I easily remove "kubuntu-desktop" and _every_ thing it installs?
[02:06] <UFO> probably you need to reconfigure the apt sources
[02:06] <brexel> Ivegotaquestion: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <Ivegotaquestion> thanks ^^
[02:06] <brexel> Ivegotaquestion: see what it depends on and remove all of that :)
[02:06] <jay> nothing needed to be updated
[02:06] <Ivegotaquestion> wow
[02:06] <Ivegotaquestion> tons of stuff
[02:07] <UFO> yes i think you got only cdrom used at the moment
[02:07] <UFO> nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:07] <Ivegotaquestion> brexel uhh is there some way to remove kde & all of its programs leaving python and all the other stuff that gnome would use?
[02:07] <brexel> hmm
[02:07] <brexel> apt-get remove kde\*
[02:08] <brexel> try
[02:08] <Red_Herring> why?
[02:08] <brexel> i don't know ^^
[02:08] <Ivegotaquestion> -s = simulate?
[02:08] <brexel> yea
[02:08] <Ivegotaquestion> ok
[02:08] <Ivegotaquestion> hey that works ^^ thanks
[02:08] <brexel> manpage says :)
[02:09] <brexel> yw :)
[02:09] <Ivegotaquestion> theres a few things I have to dig through synaptic to remove but it worked ^^
[02:10] <Red_Herring> ya
[02:10] <Ivegotaquestion> brb switching back to gnome ^^
[02:10] <Red_Herring> but they *do* run ubder gnome
[02:10] <jay> Red_Herring/UFO: what do i do in the sources list?
[02:10] <UFO> there was an article where you could install both gnome and kde without they could see other ones software
[02:10] <Red_Herring> !repos
[02:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:11] <UFO> do not enable multiverse
[02:11] <Red_Herring> why?
[02:11] <jay> Red_Herring/UFO: what do i do in the sources list to enable more sources?
[02:11] <brydenn> beefsprocket:  you there?
[02:12] <Red_Herring> there?
[02:12] <UFO> take # marks away from deb lines
[02:12] <Red_Herring> look there:
[02:12] <Red_Herring> !repos
[02:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:12] <Red_Herring> ^ there
[02:12] <beefsprocket> brydenn: sure, what's up?
[02:12] <Ivegotaquestion> is there a GTK web browser with KHTML's rendering engine? :O
[02:13] <Red_Herring> no
[02:13] <Red_Herring> its konqueror, and safari
[02:13] <Ivegotaquestion> aw thats not cool :-\
[02:13] <Red_Herring> thats all
[02:13] <Ivegotaquestion> What about GTK-Webcore?
[02:14] <jay> what program can i use in kubuntu to connect to mIRC?
[02:14] <Red_Herring> thats ff core
[02:14] <jay> easier than going back and forth from desktop to laptop
[02:14] <Red_Herring> jay: connect to mirc?
[02:14] <Red_Herring> ya cant
[02:14] <Red_Herring> but you CAN get to the channel here
[02:14] <jay> ya, i'm talking to you from my windows desktop
[02:14] <Red_Herring> irssi
[02:15] <Red_Herring> is xserver running?
[02:15] <Ivegotaquestion> Red_Herring, its nokia's port of KHTML to GTK
[02:15] <UFO> i use konversation
[02:15] <jay> ya running xserver with VESA drivers
[02:15] <Red_Herring> wierd
[02:16] <UFO> the VESA is safe bet if got any problem with video
[02:16] <Red_Herring> jay: xchat is free under linux
[02:16] <Red_Herring> use it to connect to here
[02:16] <jay> where can i find xchat in the kmenu?
[02:16] <beefsprocket> i hear good things aoubt bitchx
[02:16] <Red_Herring> jay, under internet
[02:16] <brexel> bitchx rox
[02:16] <brexel> but is a pain in the ass to cfg :D
[02:17] <UFO> apt-get install xchat
[02:17] <beefsprocket> ah
[02:17] <jason> jay = jason
[02:17] <jason> !repos
[02:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:17] <beefsprocket> brexel: didn't bitchx have some major backdoors at one point?
[02:18] <UFO> Think what a work to use mouse ;)
[02:18] <brexel> beefsprocket: dunno about that sry, i use it only on my private irc server :D
[02:18] <beefsprocket> ah
[02:21] <UFO> Yep, this actually works for me... kubuntu :)
[02:21] <Ivegotaquestion> ahh! I cant type on my desktop =[
[02:22] <UFO> i wonder why it does not have eny default firewalling
[02:23] <Ivegotaquestion> thanks for the help guys :)
[02:23] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: in case if you want to configure it yourself later, its not that hard :P
[02:23] <jason> UFO/Red_Herring: should i enable security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe repositories?
[02:23] <hatake_kakashi> UFO: there's scripts that you can google for it
[02:24] <UFO> iptables this iptables that :)
[02:24] <UFO> yes i probably put the shorewall
[02:24] <Red_Herring> jason: ya
[02:25] <jason> UFO/Red_Herring: so just not the "main restricted" ones?
[02:25] <UFO> yes, and uncomment the cdrom
[02:26] <UFO> sorry comment out the cdrom
[02:26] <jason> ok
[02:26] <UFO> now you can get the cdrom out of it
[02:27] <UFO> and then apt-get update && upgrade
[02:28] <eternaljoy> hello
[02:28] <eternaljoy> in Konqueror, how can you set it up to display 2 windows so you can drag and drop files?
[02:28] <jason> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:28] <jason> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:28] <eternaljoy> jason: any ideas please?
[02:28] <UFO> close the synaptic
[02:28] <brexel> eternaljoy: right click at the bottom -> split view
[02:28] <UFO> or other package software
[02:29] <brexel> http://www.qwuh.com/xx.jpg
[02:29] <brexel> ^^
[02:29] <UFO> it can only used by on at time
[02:29] <eternaljoy> brexel: LOL!  thanks :)  that was easy ;)
[02:29] <brexel> yw :)
[02:29] <brexel> i had that prepared for some funny reason ^^
[02:29] <eternaljoy> brexel: one last question :)  how can I add support for compressing into single files?
[02:29] <jason> ok it's going!!!!
[02:30] <jason> eternaljoy: i'm a newb, the guys in here are helping me with stuff too...
[02:30] <brexel> eternaljoy: dunno what u mean exactly
[02:30] <eternaljoy> brexel: how can I add archive support?
[02:30] <eternaljoy> brexel: so I can highlight many files and compress them all into a single file
[02:30] <eternaljoy> brexel: like a zip file
[02:30] <brexel> hmm
[02:30] <brexel> just select the files
[02:30] <brexel> right click
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: tar gzip/bzip2
[02:31] <brexel> compress->gzipped tar archve
[02:31] <nrdb> where do I set the name for DHCP on kunbuntu
[02:31] <hatake_kakashi> tar supports minimal compression, gzipping can compress it better unless if tar has some of it compressed, then your mileage may vary
[02:32] <eternaljoy> brexel: I dont have that
[02:32] <brexel> nrdb: what do you mean?
[02:32] <eternaljoy> brexel: do I need to install that support for Konq?
[02:32] <brexel> eternaljoy: hmm maybe some extension for konqueror
[02:32] <brexel> not sure sry
[02:32] <nrdb> brexel: I have a DHCP/DDNS server the kunbuntu install isn't sending a name DDNS, do you know where to set this up.
[02:33] <brexel> i have had my kde cfg for YEARS so i don't know what is default ad what i enabled :)
[02:33] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: I don't know if konqueror has built-in support for it, but you can try Ark
[02:33] <brexel> nrdb: you want the dhcp server to assign a hostname to the client or what? :)
[02:33] <UFO> Jason: it takes a min i have to reboot for kernel change...
[02:33] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi: how can I add Ark support in Konq?
[02:34] <jason> ok
[02:34] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: I do not know if it can set to be integrated, but you can apt-get it and then use that
[02:34] <eternaljoy> ok its working now
[02:34] <brexel> :)
[02:34] <eternaljoy> i needed to install konq-plugins
[02:35] <brexel> how did u enable it?
[02:35] <brexel> ok :) thanx :)
[02:35] <eternaljoy> brexel: i needed to install konq-plugins
[02:35] <brexel> good to know next time someone asks
[02:35] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: I've learned to avoid using many things through GUI, therefore I prefer the CLI method..
[02:35] <eternaljoy> whats best? Gzip or Bzip2?
[02:35] <brexel> you figured that out pretty fast
[02:35] <brexel> bzip2
[02:35] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: there's no better, they compress differently
[02:35] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi: yeah, but im lazy ;)
[02:35] <eternaljoy> ok thanks
[02:35] <brexel> though the best compressor ever is rar
[02:35] <eternaljoy> :)
[02:36] <eternaljoy> brexel: define "best" :)
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: the best compressor is uharc
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> :p
[02:36] <brexel> not on text ^^
[02:36] <nrdb> brexel: it is, a long string of number, I what the kubuntu to send a name instead.  with FC4 the file "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1" has a "DHCP_HOSTNAME", where do I do this for kunbuntu?
[02:36] <brexel> but uharc is great yes
[02:36] <brexel> hmmmmm
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> when I was on windows, it compressed CS1.5 (~1.4 GB) to a mere ~500MB
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> s/it/I
[02:37] <eternaljoy> lets have a "best" compressor debate ;)
[02:37] <eternaljoy> jk :)
[02:37] <brexel> nrdb: my guess would be /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:37] <ubuntu> hi
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: to be frank, its like buying a car, not all cars are all round/perfect, each has their strengths and weaknesses
[02:37] <brexel> eternaljoy: no :) but i feel rar is pretty good and a lot better than bzip2
[02:37] <ubuntu> #nick
[02:38] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: you can get rar for linux if need be
[02:38] <brexel> once a friend sent me an email with  a 600 kB attachment
[02:38] <brexel> i know thx :)
[02:38] <brexel> and it turend out to be a 2.5 GB text file :D
[02:38] <Sylvian> I vote 7z ftw in "best compressor"-category. 7zipped 6.7 gigs of old console roms inte about 680mb
[02:38] <nrdb> brexel: that looks like it.
[02:38] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi: that sounds like women you just described ;)
[02:38] <Janexho> hi friends
[02:38] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: well, either way :p
[02:39] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi: ;)
[02:39] <brexel> but i admit, there was the same text over and over in it :) but still a good laugh
[02:39] <nrdb> brexel: is there any way to reconfigure the DHCP without resetting the computer?
[02:39] <Janexho> is possible mount a hard disk from a live cd ??
[02:39] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi eternaljoy: to be frank, its like buying a car, not all cars are all round/perfect, each has their strengths and weaknesses <-- replace car with women and it still makes sense :)
[02:39] <brexel> nrdb: yes: dhclient eth0
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> in most cases I do my usual compression for linux with bzip2.. tar -cvf foo.tar * && bzip2 -9vv foo.tar
[02:39] <eternaljoy> :)
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> eternaljoy: some don't like to compare it like that.. if you were a female, you'd be saying about males too :
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> :P
[02:40] <Janexho> is possible mount a hard disk from a live cd ??
[02:40] <brexel> nrdb: or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> Janexho: yes
[02:40] <eternaljoy> hatake_kakashi: :)
[02:40] <Janexho> how ??
[02:40] <eternaljoy> bye everyone
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> Janexho: man mount
[02:40] <nrdb> brexel: that worked a charm, thanks.
[02:40] <jason> Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:40] <jason> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:40] <jason> is only available from another source
[02:40] <jason> E: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate
[02:41] <jason> Package gcc-3.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:41] <jason> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:41] <jason> is only available from another source
[02:41] <brexel> nrdb: yw :)
[02:41] <jason> E: Package gcc-3.4 has no installation candidate
[02:41] <jason> Red_Herring/UFO: following the ati driver install instructions i got an error saying above
[02:41] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[02:41] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:41] <Hobbsee> use apt-cache search
[02:41] <UFO> apt-get update
[02:41] <UFO> apt-get upgrade
[02:42] <jason> UFO: i did, it finished with no errors
[02:42] <UFO> apt-get install build-essential
[02:43] <brexel> UFO: do you have any good string to give apt-get to find that packeage?
[02:43] <brexel> i keep forgetting that ^^
[02:43] <jason> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:43] <jason> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:43] <jason> is only available from another source
[02:43] <jason> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> jason: use pastebin ffs
[02:44] <brexel> build-essential
[02:44] <brexel> right here
[02:44] <eternaljoy> hi again :)
[02:44] <brexel> hi ^^
[02:44] <eternaljoy> how can I add kgpg support to Konqueror so I cam decrypt etc?
[02:45] <UFO> jason: you got something wrong in sources.list
[02:45] <brexel> oh man i love this channel
[02:45] <brexel> people actually are willing to learn :)
[02:45] <UFO> :)
[02:45] <brexel> and to listen and also give their knowledge :)
[02:45] <jason> !repos
[02:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:46] <eternaljoy> brexel: how can I add kgpg support to Konqueror so I cam decrypt etc?  atm it keeps saying 0 keys imported!
[02:46] <UFO> don not enable the multiverse
[02:46] <brexel> eternaljoy: sry no experience with that ^^
[02:46] <_sara> my cpu frequency is all messesd up
[02:46] <jason> UFO: ok
[02:47] <nrdb> brexel: I think there needs to be a refinment done to the 'Network Settings' config system.  If an interface is set to DHCP the 'Domain Name Sytem->Host name' should be put in the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file.  Don't you?
[02:47] <jason> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:47] <brexel> no, DNS is something different
[02:47] <_sara> anyone knows how to fix my CPU frequency?
[02:48] <brexel> it's the ip address of your DNS server (that translates IPs into hostnames and vice versa
[02:49] <UFO> jason: probably you didnt have the main restricted
[02:49] <UFO> _sara: do you have a laptop?
[02:49] <_sara> no its a desktop
[02:49] <nrdb> brexel: where you talking to me then.
[02:49] <jason> UFO: i'm gonna pastebin my screenshot of adept and let you have a look, one sec
[02:50] <UFO> jason: ok
[02:50] <brexel> nrdb: i think so :D sorry i'm wasted :D
[02:50] <UFO> _sara: it probably in bios
[02:50] <_sara> bios?
[02:50] <_sara> I dualboot windows at its fine there
[02:50] <brexel> nrdb: i must admit i do not think the graphical config utils are perfect yet...it is always good if you know where to look in the cfg files :)
[02:51] <UFO> ok.. then i think its acpi
[02:51] <_sara> acpi
[02:51] <nrdb> brexel: for a LAN which is where this gets used mostly the name is important.  yes I agree with that but the better they are the easier the whole thing is to setup.
[02:52] <jason> UFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8464
[02:52] <brexel> nrdb: the name is only important if you have a DNS server or use wins or netbios
[02:52] <jason> UFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8465
[02:53] <UFO> jason: uncomment everything else but not the backport section
[02:53] <UFO> jason: and the cdrom
[02:53] <nrdb> brexel: if you supply a name it can hurt to put in the DHCP file if there isn't a DDNS it wont get used anyway.
[02:53] <UFO> jason: then it should work
[02:54] <brexel> nrdb: still, for TCP/IP a name is worth nothing
[02:54] <UFO> mac addres
[02:54] <UFO> ;)
[02:55] <jason> UFO: it's working!
[02:55] <UFO> jason: great
[02:55] <UFO> jason: do the update and upgrade
[02:56] <nrdb> brexel: the first place I tried to set this up is with the GUI.  I agree with TCP/IP names aren't anything but all I am saying is that the 'Network Settings' should set it up if it can, It would have made my life a lot easier, and as said before it can't hurt.
[02:56] <UFO> tcp/ip its working on mac addres see arp
[02:56] <UFO> nrdb: to what do you need dhcp name?
[02:57] <brexel> nrdb: you're right about that. probably you should file a bug report so that the kde team know about that ^^
[02:57] <nrdb> UFO: I sometimes connect in other computers.
[02:57] <nrdb> brexel: I thought that app was done by ubuntu/kunbutu team.
[02:57] <UFO> nrdb: you meen you are usin another dhcp server?
[02:58] <_sara> so no one knows?
[02:58] <nrdb> UFO: I have setup one of my computers to be a DHCP/DDNS server (as well as other things)
[02:59] <brexel> sorry i really don't kow abou that :) as i said befor i am used to doing system stuff in text files ^^ i thin i've never used that utility ^^
[03:00] <UFO> nrdb: yes but dhcp discovery goes with broadcast addresses
[03:01] <UFO> nrdb: every machine on same fysical network gets those <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:02] <XyFeX> oy
[03:02] <nrdb> UFO: I know it uses broadcast, my firewall stops the broadcasts.
[03:02] <jason> UFO: one of the commands to install the ati driver is ati-driver-installer-8.22.5-i386.run
[03:02] <nrdb> UFO: i don't think my ISP passes them on ether.
[03:02] <jason> UFO: sorry
[03:03] <XyFeX> got kubuntu on ppc (teal imac, G3), trying to use extrernal mic but cant seem to be able to
[03:03] <jason> UFO: it's sudo sh ./ati-driver-----------.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/breezy
[03:03] <XyFeX> by default the system uses the little mic on top of the comp...
[03:03] <jason> UFO: does it matter that i'm running kubuntu? should i still enter Ubuntu/breezy as the command?
[03:04] <UFO> jason: yes
[03:04] <jason> UFO: thx
[03:04] <UFO> nrdb: you would like to get ip from your own dhcp server?
[03:07] <nrdb> UFO: for just the computer on my local LAN, every thing is going fine, with one minor problem that I am not worrying about for now, the remotes can use things like '$> ping compaq' where the server needs to use '$> ping compaq.localdomain'.
[03:08] <UFO> use your own dns server and create in there own domains for difrent ip adresses
[03:09] <jason> brb, gotta reboot
[03:09] <jason> UFO: is there a command to reboot?
[03:09] <UFO> reboot
[03:10] <swim> hey, what do you guys preffer for a file-sharing app?
[03:10] <UFO> nrdb: it nice becouse it does leave dnsquerys most on your own computer, it just updates its database from root servers
[03:10] <UFO> ssh
[03:10] <UFO> swim: ssh
[03:11] <swim> UFO: I meant something that uses p2p like kmldonkey
[03:11] <nrdb> UFO: the DNS querys are working, my problem was finding out how to setup kubuntu to give the DDNS a name, that has been fixed.
[03:12] <flyingheart> hi everyone  :)
[03:14] <jason> UFO: IT WORKED!!!!
[03:15] <m_tadeu> hi...how do i format a partition as an ext3?
[03:15] <jason> UFO: confirming the install isn't working though...
[03:16] <jason> jason@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo
[03:16] <jason> libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[03:16] <jason> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[03:16] <jason> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:16] <jason> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:16] <jason> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:16] <jason> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:16] <jason> is that an ok error?
[03:17] <jason> UFO: is that an ok error?
[03:19] <jason> Red_Herring?
[03:21] <jason> hello?
[03:22] <jason> anyone there?
[03:23] <_Johnny> so yea... G3 mac, default mic is /dev/dsp... what would be the soundcard port? (coz it doesent seem like theres any autoswitching going on)
[03:27] <jason> has anyone installed the ati drivers?
[03:28] <jason> UFO: hi
[03:29] <UFO> jason: hi did it work?
[03:29] <jason> UFO: yes it did, but when i did the confirmation part of the install, it gave an error
[03:29] <jason> jason@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo
[03:29] <jason> libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[03:29] <jason> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[03:29] <jason> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:29] <jason> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:29] <jason> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:29] <jason> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> !tell jason about pastebin
[03:31] <UFO> jason: try modprobe fglrx
[03:32] <jason> UFO: that didn't return anything
[03:32] <analisa> hello guys, I just installed kubuntu... can someone tell me the root password??? the instalation never ask for one... and know I only have one user account
[03:32] <UFO> jason: try now the fglrxinfo
[03:33] <UFO> analisa: it does use the sudo
[03:33] <jason> !pastebin
[03:33] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:33] <UFO> analisa: it does not have the root password
[03:33] <analisa> UFO: so there's no root password? sudo?
[03:33] <_Johnny> hehe
[03:33] <analisa> god this is too user friendly for me...
[03:34] <jason> UFO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8466
[03:34] <UFO> analisa: sudo whatyouwant
[03:35] <_Johnny> Anyone knows how to change from intergrated mic to sound card port with an old G3 ppc?
[03:35] <jason> UFO: so there's a libGL error....
[03:35] <UFO> jason: try to change the monitor settings... is the size of your screen 15.4 inch
[03:35] <analisa> UFO: how can I add a new account?
[03:36] <jason> ya i think so
[03:36] <jason> what settings am i changing?
[03:36] <analisa> UFO: there's a user account system settings but there's no new user option...
[03:37] <UFO> analisa: sudo adduser
[03:37] <UFO> jason: try to change the monitor settings more near your screen use 60hz if possible
[03:38] <jason> UFO: the resolution and refresh rate are right
[03:38] <jason> 1280x800 @ 60Hz
[03:38] <analisa> UFO: god who was the genius that come with that idea!?? User and groups in system administration is asking me for root password!!! what's the point in not setting a password for root, if all the graphical stuff need password... so I need to go to one terminal and type sudo adduser!??? this really sucks... I want my root password set up!!!!!!!
[03:39] <UFO> analisa: sudo password and put first your password and then two times your root password
[03:39] <_Johnny> in kcontrol and various apps u will be simply prompted for it
[03:39] <analisa> UFO, thanks
[03:39] <UFO> jason: i have to think for a second
[03:40] <jason> UFO: does that error even matter? i mean, i'm running kubuntu now, it seems to work as far as i can see...
[03:40] <jason> UFO: thanks
[03:40] <UFO> jason: its not using the 3d acceleration
[03:41] <UFO> try the fgl_glxgears
[03:41] <jason> jason@ubuntu:~$ fgl_glxgears
[03:41] <jason> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[03:42] <jason> libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[03:42] <jason> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[03:42] <jason> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[03:42] <jason>   Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
[03:42] <jason>   Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
[03:42] <jason>   Serial number of failed request:  36
[03:42] <jason>   Current serial number in output stream:  36
[03:42] <UFO> jason: if you are not planning for games so it does not matter so much, but it would be nice to get working
[03:42] <jason> not really planning on gaming, i guess i can stop now, if i have time, i'll pop back in here and ask you guys...
[03:43] <UFO> jason: ok...
[03:43] <jason> UFO: are there anymore websites/wiki's that have ways to fix this problem?
[03:43] <UFO> jason: google ati x300 ubuntu
[03:43] <jason> UFO: it's not an x300...
[03:44] <UFO> jason: what was it?
[03:44] <jason> UFO: Xpress 200M
[03:45] <UFO> jason: ok x200 ... pci express 200 mobile igp
[03:45] <jason> UFO: so just google it... ok
[03:45] <jason> UFO: thanks for all your help!!!!
[03:45] <ilba7r> any one running fglrx 8.22.5 having prob with occasional x crash?
[03:46] <jason> UFO: this channel and the whole ubuntu community is great!
[03:46] <UFO> jason: No problem :)
[03:47] <jason> UFO: Ohh!!!
[03:47] <jason> UFO: to install these drivers i had to disable my wireless
[03:47] <jason> UFO: how do i renenable them?
[03:47] <robotgeek> jason: you are not _jason, are you?
[03:48] <UFO> jason: try to install linux-restricted-modules
[03:48] <jason> cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile
[03:48] <jason> sudo cp ath_hal.ko ../madwifi
[03:48] <jason> UFO: i did this:
[03:49] <UFO> jason: try with windows drivers with ndiswrapper
[03:49] <jason> UFO: is that what it's called?  cause i did "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[03:49] <jason> UFO: google that?
[03:50] <UFO> jason: yes google is the solution for most of the problems... put your laptop type wireless and ubuntu it should give something
[03:50] <UFO> jason: wlan or sometihing
[03:51] <jason> UFO: ok thanks
[03:51] <UFO> jason: or just try to enable it in network conf in system-settings
[03:54] <jason> UFO: i only see eth0 under Network interfaces
[03:55] <ilba7r> !ndiswrapper
[03:55] <UFO> jason: what is your laptop model?
[03:55] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:55] <UFO> jason: the ndiswrapper was only way i got my broadcom wlan card working... but it seems to work fine
[03:56] <jason> UFO: toshiba M70
[03:58] <ilba7r> jason in a terminal type lspci |grep Wireless
[03:59] <ilba7r> will tell you what card you have
[03:59] <jason> i have an atheros card
[03:59] <ilba7r> !atheros
[03:59] <ubotu> ilba7r: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:00] <ilba7r> you have to consult the wiki on that but i think you need madwifi for it
[04:01] <UFO> jason: or try copy the .inf and the .sys files from windows drivers and getit work with ndiswrapper
[04:01] <Knowerrors> anybody know how to test computer battery?
[04:02] <UFO> Knowerrors: what would you like to test
[04:04] <UFO> jason: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[04:05] <Knowerrors> UFO: the motherboard battery, clock seems to be loosing time, but not sure
[04:05] <Knowerrors> UFO: want to see if I should replace it
[04:05] <ilba7r> jason there is a wiki on compiling ati prop drivers on ubuntu forums and have a sect on how to reset the madwifi package
[04:06] <UFO> jason: try modprobe ath_pci
[04:07] <Hostile> anyone here on dapper?
[04:08] <ilba7r> jason look at the last section on madwifi http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[04:09] <UFO> Hostile: i did give a try for it but got network troubles
[04:10] <Hostile> Yeah its breaking my Crossover and I read thats a common issue and I was wondering if there was a fix, I mean I'm not complaining, I know running unstable will have problems like this
[04:13] <UFO> Hostile: try ifup eth0
[04:14] <Hostile> UFO: I'm talking about CrossOver Office, You know codeweavers wine
[04:15] <UFO> Hostile: heh... ok
[04:16] <UFO> Hostile: did you ever got working
[04:16] <Hostile> I didn't try using it until I upgraded to dapper, Ive read on the Ubuntu forums that people didn't get this error before dapper, It's interesting to say the least, No one seems to know the cause exactly
[04:17] <UFO> !crossover
[04:17] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, UFO
[04:18] <Hostile> ?
[04:19] <ilba7r> Hostile: i am running crossover here on breezy no probl. Have you tried reinstalling it?
[04:20] <ilba7r> and exct what probl you have with it?
[04:21] <Hostile> I get this error message:
[04:21] <Hostile> Unable to convert 'c:/" to a Unix path:
[04:21] <Hostile> Thats what other dapper people are getting also
[04:22] <ilba7r> Hostile
[04:22] <ilba7r> ok try this work around might help
[04:22] <Hostile> k
[04:22] <ilba7r> cd .crossover
[04:22] <Hostile> You mean .cxoffice?
[04:22] <ilba7r> yap sorry
[04:22] <Hostile> k
[04:23] <ilba7r> did you try to change the symbolic link in the dos devices
[04:23] <Hostile> Yeah I played around with that
[04:24] <ilba7r> eh i used to configure it the old way from the configuration file but they changed all that now
[04:25] <Hostile> Yeah its alot different than it used to be
[04:25] <ilba7r> hostile and i assume you tried re install too
[04:25] <Hostile> Yep.
[04:25] <Hostile> Some people are pointing the finger at the 2.6.15-15 kernel
[04:26] <ilba7r> thanx Hostile you just give me a reason not to upgrade not yet anyway
[04:28] <bert_> I had a lot of signal 11 messages in KDE, couldn't find which program or lib fos the problem.
[04:28] <Hostile> ilba7r: yep, at least I can warn other people thinking about upgrading
[04:28] <Hostile> I just realized im running the i386 kernel...Im switching to i686 smp, That may fix it
[04:28] <Hostile> doubtful though.
[04:29] <ilba7r> Hostile if you use it for personal use and need it you can use deebootstrap and reinstall a minimal breezy
[04:29] <bert_> But I installed Knome and now I don't have signal 11 meesages
[04:30] <Hostile> ilba7r: I can downgrade your saying?
[04:30] <monteiro> how do i install window decorations in kde ?
[04:30] <ilba7r> Hostile: nope running both breezy and ubuntu side by side
[04:30] <bert_> Might have been KDE looking for libs in gnome
[04:31] <Hostile> ilba7r: breezy and dapper at the same time, how does that work?
[04:31] <ilba7r> !dapper drake
[04:31] <ubotu> I heard dapper drake is the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[04:31] <UFO> Hostile: do you have two prosessors for i686 smp
[04:31] <ilba7r> look at the link with Debootstrapchroot
[04:31] <Hostile> UFO: I have Hyperthreading, which uses SMP
[04:32] <UFO> Ok...
[04:32] <ilba7r> ggod luck my friend got to go
[04:32] <Hostile> UFO: and with smp installed I can do large compiles with make -j3 which can compile 2 files at the same time, I get compile a kernel in 4 minutes
[04:33] <UFO> Hostile: is it intel?
[04:34] <UFO> yes
[04:34] <Hostile> UFO: yeah a 2.8ghz P IV
[04:35] <Hostile> brb I'm going to reboot the new kernel
[04:40] <monteiro> what do i need to compile kde decorations ?
[04:40] <monteiro> when i compile it , it says xorg-dev is missing, but i don't have a package with that name
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> monteiro: apt-cache search xorg| grep dev
[04:42] <httpdss> where do i get the fixed version of kword ?
[04:43] <monteiro> hatake_kakashi: its xlibs-static-dev ?
[04:43] <hatake_kakashi> monteiro: nfi, try it
[04:43] <monteiro> ok
[04:54] <QueenSara> damnit
[05:26] <jmarrero> Naruto rocks :D
[05:35] <Uno> any link to upgrade my firefox to 1.5.01 from 1.0.7
[05:38] <Knowerrors> Anybody use Simple Backup program in ubuntu?
[05:40] <Uno> any link to upgrade my firefox to 1.5.01 from 1.0.7
[05:42] <Knowerrors> !firefox
[05:42] <Uno> !firefox
[05:42] <Uno> ! firefox
[05:42] <Uno> hmm?
[05:42] <Knowerrors> follow the links ubotu sent you
[05:43] <Uno> i mean any website that teaches me how to upgrade?
[05:44] <arrinmurr> !firefox1.5
[05:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:44] <Uno> thanks
[05:44] <Uno> <IP_ADDRESS>? or 1.5?
[05:45] <arrinmurr> Uno: it doesn't really matter what version of firefox it is. the way to install it is the same
[05:45] <Knowerrors> yeah, Id go with 0.1, bugs fixed and such
[05:46] <arrinmurr> ah, yes, the latest should be used of course :)
[05:46] <Snake__> Can someone help me with kcron
[05:47] <Knowerrors> So how do people around here backup there root and home to dvd?  I was looking at either using Simple Backup, K3B, or partimage
[05:47] <Uno> thanks
[05:48] <Snake__> anyone
[05:50] <manveru> hey guys, i've got a odd problem... there are no keyboard-layouts for me to switch anymore
[05:50] <Uno> i got access denied when downloading file from konqueror, what should id o?
[05:50] <manveru> Uno: well, maybe you don't have access :)
[05:50] <Uno> problem with konqueror it can't use sudo
[05:51] <manveru> it can
[05:51] <manveru> kdesu konqueror
[05:51] <Uno> kdesu?
[05:51] <Uno> in console?
[05:51] <manveru> [alt] +[f2]
[05:51] <manveru> or in the console - what you prefer
[05:52] <Uno> kdesu is sorta like sudo?
[05:52] <manveru> yeah, it's sudo for graphical apps
[05:52] <Snake__> Uno: kdesu is sudo for GUI applications
[05:53] <Uno> k
[05:53] <Snake__> manveru: beat me to it :)
[05:53] <manveru> ^^
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> something just occured to me I haven't run into with ubuntu's no root password policy. What happens when reboot fsck finds errors and it wants root password so you can run fsck manually?
[05:54] <Snake__> manveru: Id help if I knew :(
[05:56] <manveru> hmm
[05:56] <manveru> looks like kde 3.5.1 expects to be running on xfree86 :|
[05:57] <manveru> k... let's restart x
[05:58] <manveru> it has a sweet uptime of 16 days already :)
[05:58] <manveru> brb...
[06:02] <Uno> "To ensure that other programs use version 1.5 of firefox and not the old 1.07 version, go to Preferences -> Preferred Applications in the System menu. For the "Web Browser" tab, choose "Custom" and then enter the command", I can't find the preferred application menu
[06:16] <CellarDoor> hey folks
[06:17] <CellarDoor> Still couldnt get kubuntu onto the amd64 system but we think we know what the problem is - His BenQ drive
[06:17] <Uno> "To ensure that other programs use version 1.5 of firefox and not the old 1.07 version, go to Preferences -> Preferred Applications in the System menu. For the "Web Browser" tab, choose "Custom" and then enter the command", I can't find the preferred application menu
[06:18] <CellarDoor> We're gonna put my drive in his system and install it that way
[06:19] <CellarDoor> I'm not going to bother with Firefox 1.5 till its on the repositories
[06:20] <Knowerrors> Uno: its different in KDE
[06:20] <Uno> nvm
[06:20] <Uno> found it
[06:20] <CellarDoor> :)
[06:20] <Uno> is there anything to make the font look smooth
[06:21] <CellarDoor> Uno are you using kubuntu ?
[06:21] <CellarDoor> breezy ?
[06:22] <Uno> yeah
[06:22] <CellarDoor> ok, first port of call is System Settings
[06:22] <Uno> hmm, not sure if it's breezy
[06:22] <Uno> how can i check?
[06:22] <CellarDoor> do you have System Settings in the K menu ?
[06:23] <Uno> yeah
[06:23] <CellarDoor> if you click on it do you get a panel thats a bit like what you get on an apple mac ?
[06:23] <Uno> yes
[06:24] <CellarDoor> your using breezy :)
[06:24] <Uno> ok
[06:24] <Uno> now how do i make my font look smooth
[06:24] <Uno> :)
[06:24] <CellarDoor> click on 'appearance'
[06:24] <CellarDoor> first icon
[06:24] <Uno> yeah
[06:24] <CellarDoor> choose fonts
[06:24] <Uno> yup
[06:25] <CellarDoor> make sure anti-aliasing is on
[06:25] <Uno> yeah, it's already on
[06:25] <CellarDoor> you could click on the configure button and have a fiddle
[06:25] <CellarDoor> see if that helps
[06:26] <Uno> k
[06:26] <Uno> thanks
[06:26] <CellarDoor> There are 'more technical' things you can do but I've never had any luck with that sort of thing
[06:26] <Uno> oh i see
[06:26] <Uno> well i'm happy i got firefox <IP_ADDRESS> working
[06:27] <CellarDoor> :)
[06:28] <CellarDoor> I had crappy looking fonts for a while, but since I upgraded to kubuntu 5.10 (breezy) on my new monitor it looks good now... I think there's other things you can do but I'm not the person to ask :P
[06:28] <Uno> CellarDoor: tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976&highlight=smooth+font
[06:29] <CellarDoor> Thats for 5.04 (hoary) but It might work
[06:29] <Uno> oh
[06:31] <CellarDoor> Have a go with it, if it works, add a post to that forum thread telling people how you went with the same thing on Breezy (if someone else hasn't already done so). :)
[06:32] <Uno> k
[06:32] <Uno> but it's for Ubuntu
[06:32] <Uno> gnome
[06:33] <CellarDoor> yeah
[06:33] <CellarDoor> And those two screenshots look the same to me :P
[06:35] <Uno> yeah..haha
[06:35] <CellarDoor> Either he can see better than us all or he's had too much coffee and needs to go outside :P
[06:42] <theball> hi
[06:43] <CellarDoor> hi theball :)
[06:43] <theball> whats goin on tonight?
[06:43] <CellarDoor> not much :P
[06:43] <theball> why come?
[06:43] <Uno> <<<< linux noob
[06:43] <Uno> how do i restart X
[06:44] <theball> ctrl alt bckspace
[06:44] <CellarDoor> Uno: ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:44] <theball> sorry forgot my manners
[06:44] <CellarDoor> And you'll be plonked back at your login screen
[06:44] <Uno> thanks
[06:45] <CellarDoor> theball: just came to see whats going on and tell people how things went with a kubuntu install on an AMD64 that was going pear shaped last night
[06:45] <theball> so whats goin on in your part of the world CellarDoor
[06:45] <CellarDoor> Its Saturday, day off, I'm vegin out
[06:45] <theball> i enjoy loading systems and getting hardware to work
[06:46] <theball> wierd huh?
[06:46] <CellarDoor> We learned how to partition Windows and Kubuntu
[06:46] <CellarDoor> Which was good
[06:46] <theball> i quit love how  my laptop works now that I have a few glitches worked out
[06:46] <Uno> CellarDoor: i think http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116482&highlight=font works
[06:46] <Uno> yeah it works
[06:46] <Uno> make font smooth
[06:47] <Uno> even thought i don't use nvidia
[06:47] <theball> is that a   commin type of thing learned and tried here?
[06:47] <CellarDoor> Uno: Might do
[06:47] <moonade> crimsun: moved
[06:48] <moonade> crimsun: (i am a kubuntu user)
[06:48] <crimsun> ok, sure
[06:48] <crimsun> does iptables -vnL confirm that everything is ACCEPTed?
[06:49] <CellarDoor> theball: I have a friend who wants to use Windows and Kubuntu on his AMD64 and we weren't having any luck getting Kubuntu to install, but we figure its his BenQ drive.
[06:49] <Uno> would be nice to hv a 12 hr clock
[06:49] <moonade> yes, pretty much so
[06:49] <moonade> crimsun: yes, pretty much so
[06:49] <moonade> crimsun: but i can stop the firewall
[06:49] <crimsun> moonade: yes, stop it completely, and flush all the rules
[06:50] <theball> CellarDoor: some drives are a real pain
[06:51] <CellarDoor> Uno: Right click on your clock and choose 'Date and time format' In the menu
[06:51] <CellarDoor> I think that is where you go
[06:51] <Uno> thanks
[06:51] <CellarDoor> theball: yeah, I'm gonna download the DVD version and see if that works, if not we'll put my Pioneer drive in his computer and install it that way
[06:51] <CellarDoor> Uno: np
[06:52] <theball> CellarDoor: i had alot of problems with the drive in my snell laptop but a new cd fixed the issue for me
[06:53] <CellarDoor> theball: yeah, we tried two different downloads and two different brands of CD... no luck. I think we'll probably have to put my drive in his computer to get Kubuntu installed.
[06:53] <theball> ah ha
[06:54] <theball> is anyone familliar with getting a command line run app to load pre xwindows on boot up?
[06:54] <CellarDoor> Not me :P
[06:55] <crimsun> you need to place it in a script and use update-rc.d to configure it
[06:55] <theball> crimsun i understand the concept but do not know how to go about doing it
[06:56] <_felipe> does anyone here know how to modify a deb package?
[06:56] <crimsun> _felipe: anything more specific than that?
[06:57] <crimsun> theball: start by reading the man page for update-rc.d
[06:57] <theball> thanks ill do that
[06:57] <crimsun> theball: the basic idea: put your command in a script, place the script in /etc/init.d/something, then use update-rc.d something defaults
[06:58] <_felipe> i have the qemu 0.8.0 package which i downloaded form the kubuntu repository. I want to put the kqemu module inside so it compiles everything at once
[06:58] <theball> crimsun i get that, i want to start lineak for my keyboard buttons.
[06:59] <_felipe> i dont if the module can be added after the installation as all manuals say to compile from tar
[07:00] <_felipe> or maybe do you know if there is a program to make a deb package from a tar. in that way i can join 2 tars and make a new deb
[07:03] <crimsun> _felipe: how is kqemu related to qemu? I presume it's a frontend?
[07:03] <_felipe> it is an accelerator module
[07:04] <_felipe> in the tar installation it says i only have to put the kqemu tared folder inside the qemu tared folder before the ./configure make ...
[07:05] <crimsun> I presume you pulled deb-src?
[07:06] <crimsun> if so, just dump it in there and modify debian/* as appropriate
[07:07] <_felipe> please specify, what should i do with deb-src?
[07:07] <crimsun> _felipe: deb-src is what I called Debianised source
[07:09] <_felipe> oh
[07:09] <_felipe> what i pulled was qemu_0.8.0-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:09] <crimsun> that's the binary deb that's generated
[07:09] <crimsun> you want the Debianised source
[07:09] <_felipe> is it the dsc?
[07:10] <_felipe> with the tar and the diff?
[07:10] <crimsun> it's the orig.tar.gz + diff.gz
[07:11] <_felipe> and how do i modify that to add the kqemu  module?
[07:12] <crimsun> _felipe: extract the orig.tar.gz, apply the diff.gz to it, and add the kqemu files
[07:12] <_felipe> ok ill try that
[07:12] <_felipe> thanks
[07:13] <CellarDoor> hey folks, I'm new to burning DVD iso's of Kubuntu... Can I use K3B for that ?
[07:13] <moonade> crimsun: sorry, i was afk. yes, i flushed all rules. no firewall.
[07:13] <crimsun> moonade: and now?
[07:13] <moonade> crimsun: (and still same results)
[07:13] <moonade> crimsun: Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[07:13] <moonade> crimsun: (when running ssh)
[07:13] <crimsun> moonade: telnet localhost 22
[07:13] <crimsun> ...
[07:15] <CellarDoor> ah, nevermind, I see the "New data DVD project" thingy :P
[07:27] <mistworks> Hi to all
[07:34] <EightiesK> !tar
[07:37] <Mungallo> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:37] <Mungallo> any ideas?
[07:37] <Mungallo> Ati driver install off of http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 gives me this error
[07:43] <ice_1963> bur
[08:06] <Mungallo> so heres a novel question, is it possible to switch from an amd64 kernel to an x86 kernel?
[08:07] <Mungallo> obviously without reinstalling the entire os.
[08:07] <CellarDoor> hmm doesnt sound promising
[08:08] <CellarDoor> I don't think I'd wanna try it
[08:08] <Mungallo> I would figure it's possible with the x86_64, but I'm not really sure.
[08:08] <Mungallo> lol
[08:08] <CellarDoor> But then, if youre using an AMD64, why would you want to ?
[08:09] <Mungallo> support isn't currently where I want it to be. granted its far better on kubuntu than elsewhere, but i find myself doing too many workarounds.
[08:10] <CellarDoor> support for amd64 ?
[08:10] <Mungallo> yeah.
[08:11] <keqiuguang> hi
[08:11] <Mungallo> lo
[08:11] <keqiuguang> evryone
[08:11] <CellarDoor> hi keqiuguang :)
[08:11] <keqiuguang> ty
[08:12] <keqiuguang> i am new here
[08:12] <CellarDoor> welcome :)
[08:12] <keqiuguang> first time using tis
[08:12] <CellarDoor> oh...
[08:14] <robotgeek> Mungallo: i don't think that's possible
[08:15] <Mungallo> dunno.
[08:15] <robotgeek> all the apps are compiled against 64 bit
[08:15] <Mungallo> yeah I was thiking about that.
[08:15] <Mungallo> makes sense that they would be.
[08:16] <_rob> !w32codecs
[08:16] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:09] <cold_m> do you have anybody
[09:09] <cold_m> ?
[09:10] <cold_m> Removing vpopmail-bin ...
[09:10] <cold_m> /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)
[09:10] <cold_m> invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "stop" failed.
[09:10] <cold_m> dpkg: error processing vpopmail-bin (--remove):
[09:10] <cold_m>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:10] <cold_m> /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)
[09:10] <cold_m> invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "start" failed.
[09:10] <cold_m> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[09:10] <cold_m>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[09:10] <cold_m> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:10] <cold_m>  vpopmail-bin
[09:10] <cold_m> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:10] <cold_m> why i cant remove
[09:10] <cold_m> ?!!?!??!
[09:15] <cold_m> larsivi, are you here?
[09:16] <cold_m> eiiii
[09:17] <cold_m> where are you
[09:17] <cold_m> ?!
[09:18] <larsivi> cold_m: yes?
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m Removing vpopmail-bin ...
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "stop" failed.
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m dpkg: error processing vpopmail-bin (--remove):
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m /etc/init.d/vpopmail: xmalloc: /Users/chet/src/bash/src/parse.y:2716: cannot allocate 64 bytes (0 bytes allocated)
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m invoke-rc.d: initscript vpopmail, action "start" failed.
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m  vpopmail-bin
[09:18] <cold_m> cold_m E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:18] <cold_m> why i cant remove
[09:18] <cold_m> ???
[09:19] <larsivi> cold_m: hmm, I don't really know, but are you using dpkg directly or apt-get?
[09:20] <cold_m> i use apt-get
[09:20] <cold_m> but this is the error
[09:22] <skypa> greetings
[09:28] <larsivi> cold_m: then I don't know. sorry
[09:28] <cold_m> ok :(
[09:29] <skypa> any of you guys know, if xchat can in any way support composite (real transparency) or know a irc client that does/can?
[09:31] <skypa> and excuse my grammar, I didn't sleep for 48 hours ;)
[09:41] <Mungallo> cold: have you tried a ps -ef | grep vpop? and then kill any procs running?
[09:47] <cold_m> no
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> !info vpopmail
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> !info vpop
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> heh that's what you get for installing it, its under multiverse.. probably there is something wrong with the uninstall script, or you ran out of mem, or you tried to manually delete it, etc
[09:55] <Mungallo> The other thing you can do is  a find / -name vpopmail  and then manually delete it.
[09:55] <Mungallo> that might get kinda dirty though
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> lsof comes in handy if there is something using it, etc
[09:56] <cold_m> if i reboot the computer ?
[09:56] <Mungallo> o_O?
[10:41] <luisito> hello
[10:42] <Blippe> lo
[10:42] <luisito> if you use openoffice and have the application menu in the mac os style, the openoffice menu is in kde or in its own window?
[10:44] <Blippe> it's in the office menu, right beside lyx, gnumeric and scribus if you install 'em too :D
[10:46] <MeTa> hi all
[10:46] <Blippe> hi ther morpheus, meta
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i modify the PATH?
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> or add sg ?
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> !path
[10:47] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> argh
[10:48] <Blippe> path?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> for ex, i type firefox in terminal
[10:48] <Blippe> like the $path$ in windows?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> it starts firefox from /a/b/c
[10:48] <Blippe> oh.. i c
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> this is the symlink?
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know, but i found this
[10:49] <MetaMorfoziS> !symlink
[10:49] <ubotu> symlink is, like, ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link
[10:49] <Blippe> lets see... I just remember how i do that at campus... they had a shortcut...
[10:49] <luisito> Blippe: thanks
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not the symlink
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox
[10:51] <luisito> my god! this KDE is far, far, far beyond gnome. now I feel I was using windows 95 with gnome. (i'm surprised!!)
[10:51] <Blippe> easy way out might be to put a shortcut in /usr/sbin/ to the prog
[10:51] <MetaMorfoziS> ok...
[10:51] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:52] <Blippe> MetaMorfoziS, and that is NOT by far a good way to do it
[10:52] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[10:52] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:52] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[10:53] <MetaMorfoziS> To ensure it is used as the default version, modify the symbolic link in /usr/bin:
[10:54] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[10:54] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> ok i'm soluted
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> thx.)
[10:56] <fatejudger> !sources.list
[10:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:56] <keqiuguang> hi
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[11:03] <mo0osah> i'm dualbooting with windows xp, is there a way to boot windows while in linux
[11:05] <Blippe> mo0osah, you're able to start windows programs with wine, if that is what you want!
[11:05] <Blippe> mo0osah, the results aren't always the greatest
[11:05] <_mindspin> hi, after a dist-upgarde to breezy, kaffeine plays some videos (mpg) extremely slow, any suggestions?
[11:09] <Zeusz> mo0osah: Win4Lin
[11:12] <cold_m> Zeusz, do you know how work with Win4Lin
[11:12] <cold_m> ?
[11:12] <Zeusz> No ideea
[11:13] <Zeusz> just heard of it
[11:13] <cold_m> :)
[11:13] <Zeusz> From Romania cold_m
[11:14] <Zeusz> just i'm not registered
[11:14] <cold_m> mo0osah, also you may use cedega
[11:14] <Zeusz> how can I register
[11:14] <Zeusz> yes Cedega is good for the games
[11:14] <cold_m> ./msg nickserv register pass
[11:14] <cold_m> cedega is good also for programs
[11:14] <cold_m> CrossOver is very good for programs
[11:14] <cold_m> :)
[11:24] <mo0osah> cold_m: i have vmware istalled
[11:24] <mo0osah> do you know how to use it to boot my windows parittion
[11:24] <cold_m> what is vmware
[11:24] <cold_m> no
[11:24] <mo0osah> k
[11:41] <shenchien> how to install baghira?
[11:41] <Tm_T> shenchien: apt-cache search baghira
[11:41] <Tm_T> you get package name
[11:41] <Tm_T> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install <package>
[11:44] <mo0osah> anyone experienced with vmware
[11:45] <carlos> buenos dias como puedo  poner el canal de kubuntu espaol
[11:45] <bimberi> !es
[11:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:45] <carlos> gracias
[11:46] <bimberi> yw :)
[11:46] <mo0osah> I am dual booting currently but am tired of rebooting again and again to switch between windows and linux, so i installed vmware.  Now is there a way to boot my windows partition using vmware?
[11:47] <Tm_T> bimberi: yay!
[11:47] <Tm_T> shenchien: got it?
[11:48] <Tm_T> ...looks like it
[11:48] <bimberi> Tm_T: :)
[11:54] <syahira1> fiE_deE
[12:26] <tchize> Hello
[12:26] <robotgeek> hi tchize
[12:27] <tchize> i have a desktop station to reinstall, it was previously a now deeply broken debian distro
[12:28] <tchize> am used to debian but not to ubuntu, is there some place i can find minimal iso install (and download all package at installation time) or is it mandatory to downlaod a 600M iso?
[12:28] <robotgeek> tchize: there is no minimal iso install, but since it's already broken, you might want to experiment with upgrading directly?
[12:28] <tchize> robotgeek: no i want a fresh install :)
[12:29] <tchize> it's broken at kernel level :)
[12:29] <tchize> be back
[12:29] <robotgeek> tchize: ah okay
[12:30] <Tonio_> hi
[12:30] <robotgeek> hey Tonio_
[12:31] <robotgeek> Tonio_: did the desktop wallpaper guy mail back?
[12:31] <Tonio_> robotgeek: nope.......
[12:31] <Tonio_> I need to find a good one under a free licence, can be gpl, lgpl, bsd or even CC
[12:32] <robotgeek> i'll look and see if i can find something
[12:32] <Tonio_> if some of you have something clean, not agressive (consider it has to be the default for dapper), and eventually NOT blue, should be nice
[12:32] <Tonio_> I would appreciate a green one
[12:32] <robotgeek> Tonio_: heh, okay. green it will be
[12:33] <Tonio_> robotgeek: mail me the ones you may find ;) to busy today for irc ;)
[12:33] <Tonio_> robotgeek: tonio (at) ubuntu.com
[12:33] <Tonio_> thanks by advance, hehehe
[12:33] <robotgeek> Tonio_: okay, i'll mail you some stuff. or i'll ask around.
[12:34] <robotgeek> i meant if someone knew offhand
[12:34] <Tonio_> no pb, I'm leaving you, few bugs to work on today....
[12:34] <robotgeek> Tonio_: heh, i am working on the Desktop Guide
[12:34] <Tonio_> hum, that's important
[12:35] <Tonio_> although, you may need my package when accepted to notice on it the configuration...
[12:35] <Tonio_> the desktop config is way different with that package.....
[12:35] <robotgeek> Tonio_: which one?
[12:35] <Tonio_> robotgeek: in fact I'm actually working on kubuntu-desktop-settings package....
[12:36] <robotgeek> Tonio_: ah, nice
[12:36] <Tonio_> we will discuss it during the kubuntu meeting on 02/16
[12:36] <robotgeek> cool, i think i'll be there to atleast understand what it does
[12:36] <Tonio_> many little improvements on the default desktop configuration, like fonts (which were ungly till now), kopete default config, usage of a moodin kdm theme, konquerors config improvements and many more things
[12:37] <robotgeek> i just love moodin :)
[12:37] <Tonio_> robotgeek: I'll write a guide in pdf with screenshots to explain why I did this and that and the purpose.... then the differents points will have to be accepted, modifed or rejected
[12:37] <robotgeek> i dunno how it works, but I installed it, and my login manager looked very sleek
[12:38] <robotgeek> Tonio_: sounds cool, hopefully i will be done with the first draft of Desktop Guide next week
[12:38] <Tonio_> yep moodin is fine, but it has to be in main to become the kubuntu defaults
[12:38] <robotgeek> yeah, i caught that bit in the meetings page
[12:38] <Tonio_> robotgeek: don't mind everything is still kde ;)
[12:39] <robotgeek> Tonio_: heh
[12:39] <Tonio_> you can start without my specific settings for sure
[12:40] <robotgeek> Tonio_: most of it is done, I'm not touching stuff with KDE documentation
[12:40] <jarlath> Just installed kubuntu.  A clean install and my wireless network card and everything works perfect! :)
[12:40] <Tonio_> robotgeek: what formats are you working on ? could be interesting to let the documentation easy to translate
[12:40] <robotgeek> Tonio_: i'm with the documentation team, and we are using docbook
[12:40] <Tonio_> jarlath: even wifi ? wow........ lucky guy ;)
[12:40] <robotgeek> jarlath: great!
[12:40] <Tonio_> robotgeek: perfect ;)
[12:40] <robotgeek> Tonio_: i got my airport extreme to work in dapper
[12:40] <jarlath> Thanks, I'm extatic!
[12:41] <Tonio_> robotgeek: did you notice klamav is packaged for dapper ?
[12:42] <robotgeek> Tonio_: hmm, actually i don't use a windows machine, so i havent installed a antivirus ever!
[12:42] <Tonio_> could be interesting put a notice on it, because ms windows users coming onto linux are searching for an antivirus software, before understanding that's not usefull :)
[12:43] <robotgeek> Tonio_: funniest are when you get popups to check for spyware!
[12:43] <Tonio_> robotgeek: hehe
[12:43] <jarlath> hehe, yes with ms style gui.
[12:43] <Tonio_> anyway, I think the antivirus is important for the dualbooting people :)
[12:44] <Tonio_> should be interesting to put a note on the documentation on that point
[12:44] <Tonio_> agree ?
[12:44] <robotgeek> Tonio_: yes, good idea
[12:44] <heanol> is amarok supposed to use 20-60% cpu while playing?
[12:44] <Tonio_> the package is klamav, and is maintained by your servant
[12:44] <Tonio_> ;)
[12:44] <robotgeek> heanol: nope
[12:45] <Tonio_> heanol: nope, absolutly not, but that happens with buggy version sometime....
[12:45] <Tonio_> heanol: what version do you use ?
[12:45] <robotgeek> Tonio_: as long as it installs, and appears in the menu, it will document it
[12:45] <heanol> 3.5.1
[12:45] <robotgeek> heanol: and what engine?
[12:45] <Tonio_> robotgeek: it is in universe, so has to be installed manually........
[12:45] <Tonio_> cause it is not installed by default........
[12:45] <heanol> i was using xine-engine but now i tried switching to gstreamer
[12:45] <heanol> now it seems to be stable at 15%
[12:46] <robotgeek> Tonio_: sure, i'll find it and document it
[12:46] <Tonio_> and not usefull anyway for regular full linux users
[12:46] <robotgeek> heanol: initially it might be high as it scans for files and stuff. also turning of the last.fm stuff helps
[12:46] <Tonio_> heanol: gstreamer is a pain at the moment, you really should use xine, or even arts engine
[12:46] <heanol> 15% still sounds much
[12:46] <heanol> Tonio_: yeah i've noticed. kaffeine is unusable :/
[12:46] <isodude> argh
[12:46] <Tonio_> heanol: yep
[12:46] <robotgeek> kmplayer is very nice :)
[12:46] <Tonio_> kubuntu had lots of bugs be default
[12:47] <Tonio_> heanol: actuvate the backports repos
[12:47] <isodude> wht about this that vlc quits whenever one tries to play .img / .iso
[12:47] <Tonio_> update, and you'll get a perfect kaffeine :)
[12:47] <robotgeek> isodude: vlc shouldn't be opening those files
[12:47] <Tonio_> heanol: the stable dapper version has been backported to breezy cause kaffeine is horrible in it....
[12:47] <isodude> does in windows =)
[12:48] <robotgeek> isodude: hmm, interesting
[12:48] <isodude> anyhow, tried to mount those files via losetup , but vlc wouldn't take that as a device eiter
[12:48] <isodude> either
[12:49] <isodude> ended up with mounting it and playing the .vob files
[12:49] <isodude> the files are dvd images
[12:49] <robotgeek> k
[12:49] <isodude> but if one mounts it via losetup.. that must work must not it?
[12:49] <Tonio_> robotgeek: kmplayer is very nice, but when stable, kaffeine is really fantastic too
[12:50] <robotgeek> Tonio_: i just compiled kmplayer in breezy, otherwise used to use kaffeine
[12:51] <heanol> Tonio_: yeah kaffeine works much better :) thanks
[12:51] <heanol> *better now
[12:51] <jeroenvrp> how to get apt's default settings back (sources.list, apt.conf, etc) ? dpkg-reconfigure apt doesnt work
[12:54] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: dunno an automatic process.....
[12:54] <Tonio_> anyway, you can get the deb, rename it to tgz, then take the files manually in it....
[12:54] <jeroenvrp> Tonio_: there must be a better way, I did it once, but somehow I dont know anymore
[12:55] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: apt-get source apt
[12:55] <robotgeek> that might work
[12:56] <jeroenvrp> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:56] <jeroenvrp> I dont have those off course
[12:56] <Tonio_> robotgeek: ho, I didn't thought about that.......
[12:56] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: you need deb-src in your sources.list
[12:57] <jeroenvrp> robotgeek: yeah I knw :-)
[12:57] <robotgeek> heh
[12:57] <robotgeek> Tonio_: i just added to your idea
[01:00] <jeroenvrp> robotgeek: Tonio_
[01:01] <jeroenvrp> no config files in there
[01:01] <_tijn> hi all
[01:03] <_tijn> is there something like a "packages.kubuntu.org" ?
[01:03] <robotgeek> _tijn: no it's just packages.ubuntu.com
[01:04] <_tijn> ah :D ok thnx
[01:04] <_tijn> gonna find me some w32codecs :D
[01:04] <robotgeek> Tonio_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8482 is a nasty bug in konqueror, not a screenshot
[01:04] <robotgeek> i meant the link is a screenshot
[01:05] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell _tijn about w32codecs
[01:05] <_tijn> heej thnx :D
[01:06] <Tonio_> robotgeek: argh.........
[01:06] <robotgeek> that is after i say increase text size
[01:07] <Tonio_> okay let me check
[01:08] <Tonio_> robotgeek: no bugs for me
[01:08] <jarlath> Amarok cant play mp3s by default?
[01:08] <Tonio_> jarlath: ubuntu can't...
[01:09] <robotgeek> Tonio_: dapper?
[01:09] <Tonio_> robotgeek: same, ubuntu never will
[01:09] <Tonio_> robotgeek: ho excuse me, no breezy :)
[01:09] <Tonio_> and no bugs for me
[01:09] <jarlath> Is there a workaround?
[01:09] <robotgeek> Tonio_: i am on dapper, i presumed you were on dapper
[01:09] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:09] <robotgeek> jarlath, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:10] <Tonio_> jarlath: it is explained about 10 000 times on the ubuntuforums, and there is a wiki page that explains this...
[01:10] <Tonio_> robotgeek: nope, I use breezy only
[01:10] <robotgeek> Tonio_: hmm, okay. my bad
[01:10] <jarlath> okay, thanks. Im looking at the unoficcial faq and dont see it, thats why I asked.
[01:10] <Tonio_> raphink: you are on dapper, can you confirm robotgeek's bug ???
[01:11] <raphink> I'm not on dapper :p
[01:11] <Tonio_> hu ? you changed ?
[01:11] <robotgeek> heh, i'll put it up on launchpad , i guess
[01:11] <raphink> ben non je suis  paris
[01:11] <Tonio_> robotgeek: maybe needs one confirmation before..... can be a local problem only
[01:11] <robotgeek> Tonio_: true
[01:12] <Tonio_> robotgeek: you'll get confirmation today :)
[01:12] <robotgeek> Tonio_: ah, thanks!
[01:13] <jeroenvrp> the problem is that i dont ahve an apt.conf
[01:13] <robotgeek> i need to provide confirmation  a few other bugs as closed
[01:13] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: wait
[01:14] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: no apt.conf.d directory ?
[01:14] <jeroenvrp> Tonio_: yes I have, but there should also be a apt.conf file
[01:14] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: there's an example one in /usr/share/doc/apt
[01:14] <_tijn> gonna restart x, cya all! :D
[01:14] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: nope, I don't have too personnaly ;)
[01:15] <jeroenvrp> I don't the example one :-) , I want the defasult one
[01:15] <jeroenvrp> default one
[01:15] <jeroenvrp> Tonio_: and if you do locate apt.conf
[01:15] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: i think it's blank, i'll check up
[01:15] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: I don't have an apt.conf file either, juste apt.conf.d folder
[01:15] <jeroenvrp> Tonio_: and are there two files in apt.conf.d folder
[01:15] <Tonio_> jeroenvrp: yep
[01:16] <jeroenvrp> ok strange
[01:16] <Tonio_> nope, normal I think ;)
[01:16] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: i don't have one, lol
[01:16] <jeroenvrp> Tonio_: robotgeek : and if you do apt-config dump | grep Period | grep Lists
[01:17] <jeroenvrp> gives it output?
[01:17] <robotgeek> jeroenvrp: no
[01:17] <jeroenvrp> aha
[01:17] <Tonio_> no
[01:17] <jeroenvrp> so it's not me , pffff
[01:18] <jeroenvrp> are you two one dapper?
[01:18] <robotgeek> i am on dapper, and on breezy too (another machine)
[01:19] <jeroenvrp> I ask
[01:19] <jeroenvrp> there is a default config option: APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1" , that makes sure apt-get update is done every night
[01:20] <jeroenvrp> tehre should be
[01:31] <landerro> can I use my 5.1-surround system on kubuntu?
[01:31] <heanol> jeroenvrp: there's a cron-apt package
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> heanol: yes I know, but it nees that default
[01:32] <heanol> that feels a little out of place for apt, imo.
[01:32] <heanol> apt is a util, not a daemon :)
[01:38] <_guigui> how can i find the french irc?
[01:40] <guigui_> how can i join the french irc?
[01:40] <guigui_> who can hsay me ?
[01:42] <raphink> guigui_: /join #kubuntu-fr
[01:43] <guigui_> thanks how can i
[02:08] <`Nomad_Away> guigui_:  Es-tu toujours l?
[02:27] <jkelly2005> i need some help with setting up eth0. i done sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> and the connection now works but if i restart the computer, it doesnt. how do i make kubuntu remember my changes for sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:34] <Pupeno> I can't get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-[36] 86, any ideas why ? It is not in any repository I checked.
[02:37] <bert_> Anyone got Klik working in KDE 3.5.1?
[02:38] <Pupeno> it is wierd because it is listed on packages.ubuntu.com. Is it possible that it didn't reach the mirrors ? any particulary up-to-date mirror that I could try ?
[02:46] <visik7> what's klik '
[02:46] <visik7> ?
[02:47] <bert_> I can't see Klik in packages.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <visik7> me too
[02:48] <bert_> Try http://klik.atekon.de/
[02:50] <raphink> there's no reason why klik would be in packages.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <raphink> since it's made to be apart from installable packages
[02:52] <Toge> hello
[02:52] <bert_> hello
[02:52] <Toge> do you know ide-cd ASPI error?
[02:52] <Toge> can I repair it?
[02:53] <Toge> I tried to install kubuntu in portable pc
[02:53] <visik7> anyone got a gpg storing key server ?
[02:53] <visik7> lik gpg.mit.edu ?
[02:54] <tchize> you mean the url of a gpg jey server or the package to create you own private enterprise server?
[03:03] <visik7> tchize: a url of a gpg key server
[03:07] <srdjant> Hi. Is there any place I can get X.org 6.9/7.0 pre-compiled for Kubuntu?
[03:07] <tchize> visik7 keyserver.kjsl.com
[03:08] <visik7> I try
[03:08] <tchize> http://www.ch.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html#ch
[03:08] <tchize> it's just a personal site referencing some public key servers :)
[03:09] <paines> hi
[03:10] <paines> i just installed dapper flight 3, upgraded everything. amarok-xine doesn't play mp3's. in the past i just needed to install libmad0, but this isn't doing the trick anymore. any ideas for this ?
[03:18] <visik7> check the engine
[03:18] <visik7> libmad0 is for xine backend
[03:18] <visik7> are u using xine backend
[03:18] <visik7> ?
[03:18] <paines> i just foundit. i needed to install libxine1c2
[03:18] <paines> thanks man
[03:18] <visik7> :)
[03:21] <DevGet> is*
[03:22] <UFO> !skype 64bit
[03:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, UFO
[03:22] <UFO> !skype
[03:22] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:23] <UFO> enyone got skypw
[03:23] <UFO> skype 64bit howto?
[03:23] <UFO> i cant get the skype working?
[03:24] <UFO> does enyone know howto get working at 64bit?
[03:24] <skypa> greetings
[03:24] <Toge> Gentoo 2005.1 Universal install CD or Gentoo 2005.1 Package CD? what should I download to install gentoo? package requires universal version first, isnt it?
[03:25] <UFO> The universal
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> Toge: why ask gentoo question in kubuntu? :P
[03:26] <Toge> ups, confusion
[03:27] <Toge> thanks ufo
[03:27] <visik7> this is #kubuntu or #gentoo ?
[03:28] <UFO> I have to say the gentoo USE flags are real pain in the ass...
[03:28] <Toge> sorry, I typed in wrong channel
[03:28] <UFO> But the source based installation is intresting.
[03:34] <srdjant> Hi. Is there any place I can get X.org 6.9/7.0 pre-compiled for Kubuntu?
[03:34] <ubijtsa> UFO: nothing stops you recompiling kubuntu from source ;)
[03:34] <ubijtsa> srdjant: in dapper perhaps?
[03:35] <ubijtsa> srdjant: if you want it in Breezy, you are most likely out of luck.. IIRC, it will not be back-ported.
[03:35] <srdjant> What is dapper?
[03:35] <vega-> srdjant: the next release of ubuntu
[03:35] <ubijtsa> srdjant: next version of Kubuntu, 6.04
[03:35] <srdjant> oh
[03:36] <srdjant> i have 5.10
[03:36] <ubijtsa> Breezy is 5.10
[03:36] <ubijtsa> :)
[03:36] <srdjant> Badger :)
[03:36] <srdjant> darn, ok. thanks. I'll go back to slackware and try X 6.9 then.
[03:37] <ubijtsa> srdjant: you can add the dapper repos and install it that way
[03:37] <srdjant> I'm trying to get this Xgl stuff working. I was impressed by the video demos.
[03:37] <ubijtsa> someone on the mailing list did that
[03:37] <srdjant> Would it be 'safe'?
[03:37] <ubijtsa> IMHO - no
[03:37] <srdjant> hah, ok.
[03:37] <ubijtsa> but he managed to get it working
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> srdjant: may as well compile it yourself
[03:37] <visik7> xgl isn't safe itself
[03:38] <srdjant> I compiled it last night for slackware, not just installed it. Need to do it carefully so that I backup the current X install.
[03:38] <srdjant> but xgl looks nice :)
[03:39] <ubijtsa> lots of stuff looks nice
[03:39] <ubijtsa> I'd like Composite, DRI, GL and Xinerama all together, but that ain't happening yet
[03:39] <srdjant> how come?
[03:40] <ubijtsa> the closed nVidia drivers can do Composite and GL at the same time, but that is experimental
[03:40] <skypa> it works quite nicely for me actually
[03:40] <skypa> although I used to use the proprietary xinerama-ripoff twinview
[03:40] <ubijtsa> DRI and Xinerama is mutually exclusive..
[03:41] <tchize> lol, is there a way to prevent ubuntu from copying all install cd package from cd to hdd during install process?
[03:41] <srdjant> you can't get DRI on nvidia closed drivers anyway
[03:41] <visik7> tchize: install in server mode
[03:41] <vega-> Al-Daja: nobody cares
[03:41] <tchize> well it's a desktop computer not a server
[03:41] <tchize> if it is installing packages it's ok
[03:42] <Al-Daja> lololol vega- ok
[03:42] <srdjant> When you talk about Composite, is that the composite video output on the card, or some X extension name a bit like Damage?
[03:42] <tchize> but it is just copying to have them at end, it's a problem, cause the partition is only 4g :)
[03:42] <ubijtsa> srdjant: Composite is the stuff for the alpha channel
[03:42] <srdjant> ah ok
[03:43] <vega-> Al-Daja: if everyone used public away etc. this channel wouldn't have room for real messages
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> and it would be annoying too
[03:44] <Al-Daja> vega oukidouki sorry it's normal standard to me, i promise you next time i don't put away in here, can be?
[03:44] <ubijtsa> Composite is a bit slow still, I have tried it now and then, but usually switch it off soon after
[03:44] <srdjant> Well I hope I won't need composite for xgl then.
[03:45] <ubijtsa> don't thinx you will
[03:45] <ubijtsa> s/x/k/
[03:45] <srdjant> great :)
[03:45] <visik7> btw to get the desktop demo of novell u need xgl and compiz
[03:45] <visik7> not just xgl
[03:45] <srdjant> compiz?
[03:46] <srdjant> strange, the 'o', 'm' and 'p' get mashed together in my irc client :(
[03:47] <visik7> uh ?
[03:47] <srdjant> must be some weird thing with the fonts
[03:47] <UFO> do i really have to install 32bit version for skype?
[03:48] <visik7> there is only a 32bit version of skype
[03:49] <monteiro> i cant find xorg-dev to compile themes for kde, anyone knows which is the exact package to install ?
[03:49] <visik7> monteiro: probably libx11-dev
[03:50] <srdjant> right, i'm off to slackware to try to install x.org
[03:50] <srdjant> bye
[03:51] <monteiro> visik7: tks
[03:53] <monteiro> visik7: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! -> this is the error
[03:53] <visik7> xlibs-dev
[03:54] <monteiro> tks
[03:54] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[03:55] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:55] <monteiro> tks
[04:00] <Uno> ubuntu = gedit... kbunutu=?
[04:00] <visik7> kate
[04:00] <visik7> ?
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> Uno: there's kedit
[04:02] <monteiro> !qt
[04:02] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:03] <tchize> Is there a graphical tool to manage installation in kubuntu?
[04:03] <visik7> is there for ubuntu ?
[04:03] <hatake_kakashi> tchize: yes, you can see it when you load the cd and press enter when cd is booted
[04:04] <visik7> adept ?
[04:04] <visik7> or the sys installation ?
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> I think tchize means sys installation
[04:04] <tchize> need to add aditional packages :)
[04:04] <tchize> ok so i put cd and that all?
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> well what visik7 said above.. adept
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> there's also aptitude
[04:05] <visik7> aptitude is for console
[04:05] <UFO> or synaptic
[04:05] <tchize> well all i see i cd content
[04:06] <tchize> no manager app
[04:06] <tchize> mm adept is probably what i was looking for :)
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> !adpet
[04:07] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> !adept
[04:07] <ubotu> it has been said that adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:09] <Uno> how do i restart a daemon
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: its easy to use though, its not like you need to do alot of typing
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> Uno: /etc/init.d/<name of daemon> restart
[04:09] <antlarr> hi
[04:09] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: i like typing
[04:09] <Uno> how do i use konqueror make use of samba also
[04:09] <visik7> uno: smb://ip/share
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: so do I, hence I use apt-get most of the time rather than adept/synaptic/aptitude
[04:09] <visik7> there's a wiki for this kind of thinks
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> !samba
[04:09] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:10] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: i don't use adept/synaptic
[04:10] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: I'm not the one who ask for these tools
[04:10] <antlarr> I'm installing kubuntu for the first time (expert mode). When asking the kernel I want to use, I have three options: linux-386, linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-386
[04:10] <antlarr> what's the difference?
[04:10] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: so you either use apt-get or aptitude? :)
[04:10] <visik7> why u select expert if u are not an expert ?
[04:10] <Uno> visik7: what if i want to look at computers in workgroup
[04:10] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: apt-get most the time
[04:10] <hatake_kakashi> antlarr: linux-386, it includes all
[04:11] <visik7> aptitude sometime but from cli not using ncurses iface
[04:11] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: heh, ncruses seems to run abit slower when on konsole though
[04:11] <tchize> wow adept seems very nice :)
[04:11] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: I really don't undestand the behaviour of ncurses iface
[04:12] <antlarr> hatake_kakashi: thanks, I'll do that, but still, I wonder what's the difference :)
[04:12] <visik7> of aptitude
[04:12] <monteiro> !headers
[04:12] <ubotu> monteiro: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:13] <Uno> got it
[04:13] <Uno> smb:\\\
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> antlarr: linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-386 are pointing to specific ones, you only have one choice anyway, choosing any of those are pretty much the same
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: heh, compiling kernels requires ncurses, lynx (I think) as well as elinks requires ncurses
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> Uno: you may need smbclient
[04:15] <antlarr> hatake_kakashi: ok, thanks
[04:15] <visik7> hatake_kakashi: what we are talkin' about ?
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> visik7: ahh, we are talking about ncurses now, but nm :)
[04:16] <visik7> :)
[04:16] <dutch> how come I keep getting a cookie request from fridge.ubuntu.com ?  what program is running that does that ??
[04:17] <Daillew> Hi Everyone
[04:18] <Daillew> could anyone tell me what protocols to allow in Guarddog firewall to listen to shoutcast streams in xmms
[04:20] <dutch> I'll try later..gotta go
[04:21] <monteiro> which package is the kde headers ?
[04:23] <visik7> kdelibs4-dev
[04:23] <monteiro> tks :)
[04:23] <visik7> install apt-file
[04:23] <visik7> and use it
[04:23] <monteiro> ok
[04:30] <Uno> for some reason, my ntfs partition can't bemounted
[04:30] <Uno> it says permission denied
[04:31] <_slash> hi guys
[04:31] <_slash> how do I disable time synchronize on bootup?
[04:33] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...when I use unrar it just deletes me the file. whats wrong?
[04:41] <fetish> join #albalug
[04:52] <boha> hy
[04:52] <boha> anyone here?
[04:55] <trispace> boha: hi
[04:59] <luisito> hello
[04:59] <_julian> grub?
[05:00] <luisito> anybody can tell wich one is better: openoffice or koffice?
[05:00] <luisito> anybody can tell me which one is better: openoffice or koffice?
[05:03] <claydoh> well, Openoffice has more widespread use, but my wife prefers Koffice as it is a little simpler
[05:04] <claydoh> try both and see what you think
[05:05] <Daillew> i use open office on both kubuntu and windows, i have office xp but prefer open office, its very good
[05:06] <luisito> oks
[05:18] <lkm> hi
[05:18] <cristian> hola
[05:18] <cristian> algun chileno XD
[05:18] <lkm>  is there anyone knows why did my GL Screensaver just shows half of my
[05:18] <lkm>  screen
[05:19] <m_tadeu> is there a way to recover a file deleted with unlink?
[05:19] <jarlath> I followed the wiki for adding sources, and I see that some of them have 'hoary-extras'. Since I'm using Breezy, am I right in thinking that they shouldnt be there?
[05:21] <UFO> Uuuhhh... this kubuntu/ubuntu life....
[05:22] <UFO> why cant they get simple things to work properly
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Such as...
[05:23] <UFO> wlan... display....
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> My display and wlan work fine.
[05:23] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: have tryed SuSE. Ubuntu is far away...
[05:25] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: Yes it works but its really buggy... if i shut down the wlan from the switch on my laptop, its difficult to get work again.
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, I've noticed that.
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although I very rarely shut down my wlan.
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Presario V2000?
[05:26] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: Yes same here, but i noticed this when my son got hand on the switch :)
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:27] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: No i got fujitsu 1667g
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, Windows won't detect my wireless network at all, so I consider Kubuntu doing pretty well.
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[05:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> I do remember the display problems, but I didn't mind it 'cause it helped me get comfortable in the shell. ;)
[05:29] <jarlath> Is adept now preferred over synaptic? I see synaptic mentioned in the FAQ, but I dont have it.
[05:29] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: But i really hate the rpm system, and the closed source idea on linux, Probably Xandros could be quite usefull
[05:29] <UFO> jarlath: adept is quite close synaptic
[05:30] <jarlath> thanks UFO.
[05:31] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: And why wont they do ubuntu or kubuntu to use debian repository an only kubuntu related files on their own repos...
[05:31] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: or ubuntu offcource
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> I use Kubuntu
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> But...I haven't a clue.
[05:33] <UFO> CheeseBurgerMan: after few years they got with deb packages same problem wich is for rpm... suse package wont work on redhat
[05:34] <UFO> and now debian package or ubuntu packages are doing allmost same
[05:34] <jarlath> apt-get update fails on me. I get this error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/549906 Can anyone help?
[05:35] <jarlath> I'm running kubuntu breezy by the way.
[05:37] <jarlath> I dont understand why all these servers are being used in the fisrt place. I only have about 8 uncommented in my sources.list. The FAQ doesnt go into any detail either.
[05:38] <UFO> you should get the cdrom away from /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <jarlath> thanks UFO, just did that
[05:38] <jarlath> It still hangs at the same point though.. (well, not hanging, but stalls and gives an error)
[05:38] <UFO> and are you using the kde update repository for kubuntu?
[05:38] <jarlath> erm...Ill post my sources
[05:39] <UFO> you need to get the key with wget...
[05:39] <Elsan_> YAY! Google maps now works with Konqueror!!!!
[05:39] <jarlath> I did that actually. Its in the FAQ.
[05:40] <Elsan_> Thanks then :)
[05:40] <ubijtsa> Elsan_: when did it not work?\
[05:41] <UFO> jarlath: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[05:41] <jarlath> Elsan, sorry, crossed wires - I was speaking to UFO
[05:41] <Elsan_> Oh lol :p
[05:41] <Elsan_> ubijitsa: Always, Flickr did not work at all before, had to load firefox
[05:41] <jarlath> UFO, I followed that too. I put in the source, but I commented it out until I sort out this problem. As it stands, adept wont install any software whatsoever.
[05:42] <ubijtsa> Elsan_: hmm, worked for me in KDE 3.4.3
[05:42] <ubijtsa> also worked in 3.5 and now it 3.5.1
[05:42] <Elsan_> Never worked for me
[05:43] <Elsan_> Frappr does't work still :(
[05:43] <ubijtsa> okidoki..
[05:43] <UFO> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:45] <UFO> jarlath: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8496
[05:45] <UFO> jarlath: there is my sources.list
[05:46] <UFO> but offcource it got few finnish sources...
[05:47] <jarlath> Thanks UFO. I dont mind going the extra few miles if it works :)
[05:49] <tchize> I need some information on ubuntu install on raid system
[05:50] <tchize> i have 3 raids on my computer . One is made for boot, one is made for / and the other very big one is not supposed to be mounted by ubuntu for now. (in fact it contains a big lvm)
[05:50] <tchize> i try to have kubuntu install install on the 2 first raid partitions
[05:51] <tchize> however, despite the fact i don't touch the third raid
[05:51] <tchize> it says it will change partition table on raid device 3 :s
[05:52] <UFO> Are they software raid or hardware raid
[05:52] <tchize> sofware raid
[05:52] <UFO> if software are they on same fysical disk?
[05:52] <tchize> they spread
[05:53] <tchize> 2 disks
[05:53] <UFO> yes but the 3rd partition is on same disks as 2 first ones...
[05:54] <tchize> first raid is for /boot, it's a raid1 spread across those hdd partitions. second raid is a raid0 spread accros 2 partition. third raid is a raid0 spread accros 2 partition. All thos on 2 hdd which are symmetrical in configuration
[05:54] <tchize> that is each read device uses a bit of both disks
[05:54] <UFO> yes you have alter partition table for all partition becouse they alla are on same fysicaldisks
[05:55] <UFO> partition tables are written on both disks
[05:55] <tchize> it says i will alter partition inside my third raid (that is where my lvm is stored) it mention nothing about the 2 other raids :s
[05:55] <tchize> i fear it detroy my lvm
[05:56] <tchize> to be clear, i don't want ubuntu to alter any partition table, the dissks and raids are already partitionned
[05:57] <tchize> i just want to tell ubuntu install yourself on raid device 1 and raid device 2
[05:57] <tchize> but it says he will alter raid device 3 :s
[05:57] <UFO> hmm.. be carefull i cant really say but it can be it changes the partition number only and not data.....
[05:59] <tchize> no it really states 'the partition table on following device will be modified' and mantion RAID0 N3. If it puts a partition table there, my lvm is dead
[06:00] <tchize> huhoo
[06:00] <tchize> this is worse then i thought
[06:01] <tchize> it detected a raid device too much :s
[06:07] <Snake__> Can someone here tell me why IRC Freezes my net?
[06:08] <abut> any kommander freak here ?
[06:08] <tchize> Yeahhh
[06:09] <tchize> 'Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/md/3p1 - Invalid argument.
[06:09] <abut> could you have a look at : http://rafb.net/paste/results/PJ3Iis66.html and tell me what the problem is please ?
[06:13] <brexel> abut: i have no idea which language this is but could it be that in line 2 you should use == instead of = ?
[06:13] <morten> hey, i have a problem with azureus, i can only start it as root. does anyone know what i can do so that i can start it without goin in konsole and write sudo /path/to/azureus ?
[06:13] <gamma> in kde.. i know it's possible to hold a file over a directory to change to that directory, but is it possible to go up a directory while holding a file?
[06:14] <tchize> morten: install it as a user :)
[06:14] <abut> brexel, line 2 is bash script so that can't be
[06:14] <abut> brexel, this is kommander: weird thing .... powerful but not documented :( thanks for your help
[06:16] <morten> tchize: i only extracted a tar.bz2 archive with azureus, i havent installed it as root.
[06:17] <tchize> morten: strange. Why does it requires root?
[06:17] <tchize> did you get any message in console when running as user?
[06:18] <tchize> also what does echo $JAVA_HOME says when in user mode? and what does it says when in root ?
[06:18] <morten> tchize: yes, i get an error message, but i dont know what it means
[06:18] <tchize> morten send the message :)
[06:19] <morten> send the error i get when i try to start azureus as user?
[06:19] <tchize> yes
[06:19] <brexel> :)
[06:19] <morten> Starting Azureus...
[06:19] <morten> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[06:19] <morten> Suitable java version found [java = 1.5.0_06]
[06:19] <morten> Configuring environment...
[06:19] <morten> Loading Azureus:
[06:19] <morten> java -Xms16m -Xmx128m -cp "/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/Azureus2.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt-mozilla.jar:/home/morten/Desktop/azureus/swt-pi.jar" -Djava.library.path="/home/morten/Desktop/azureus" -Dazureus.install.path="/home/morten/Desktop/azureus" org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main ''
[06:19] <morten> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "1,2"
[06:19] <meta> !firefox1.5
[06:19] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:19] <morten>         at sun.misc.FloatingDecimal.readJavaFormatString(Unknown Source)
[06:20] <morten>         at java.lang.Double.parseDouble(Unknown Source)
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationChecker.checkConfiguration(ConfigurationChecker.java:328)
[06:20] <tchize> ok stop
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.initialise(ConfigurationManager.java:88)
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.impl.ConfigurationManager.getInstance(ConfigurationManager.java:46)
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.core3.config.COConfigurationManager.initialise(COConfigurationManager.java:41)
[06:20] <morten>         at com.aelitis.azureus.core.impl.AzureusCoreImpl.<init>(AzureusCoreImpl.java:102)
[06:20] <morten>         at com.aelitis.azureus.core.impl.AzureusCoreImpl.create(AzureusCoreImpl.java:67)
[06:20] <morten>         at com.aelitis.azureus.core.AzureusCoreFactory.create(AzureusCoreFactory.java:46)
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.<init>(Main.java:35)
[06:20] <morten>         at org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main(Main.java:100)
[06:20] <morten> Azureus TERMINATED.
[06:20] <tchize> remove ~/.azureus of the user account
[06:20] <brexel> yep
[06:20] <brexel> your cfg is broken
[06:21] <tchize> probably an azureus crash when saving config :)
[06:21] <tchize> just remove the config and azureus will think it is the first time it starts :)
[06:22] <tchize> hohooo
[06:22] <tchize> another thing you might try instead of removing
[06:22] <tchize> change your locale :)
[06:22] <morten> thanks, it works fine now:D
[06:22] <tchize> seems your azureus config was writtent with a french locale (1,2) while you probably are in an english locale now (should be 1.2)
[06:23] <hatake_kakashi> morten: ffs use pastebin
[06:23] <morten> hatake_kakashi, pastebin?
[06:23] <hatake_kakashi> !pastebin
[06:23] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:25] <morten> hatake_kakashi, okey, i will remember that next time:)
[06:29] <antlarr> what firewall do you recommend for kubuntu?
[06:30] <antlarr> I'm used to SuSEfirewall, which works quite well and most important, it's _easy_ to configure
[06:38] <visik7> antlarr: why do u abandon it ?
[06:40] <UFO> antlarr: have you tryed webmin packages there is allmost everything you need to conf your system.
[06:43] <meta> !s3
[06:43] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meta
[06:43] <meta> anybody have notebook with integrated s3 graphics system?
[06:43] <meta> please help me about drivers..
[06:44] <asraniel> hi there, is it normal that i dont have /etc/ld.so.conf ?? if yes,where is that file=
[06:44] <UFO> meta: try using vesa drivers, you dont problably need 3d
[06:44] <meta> vesa?
[06:45] <meta> what is vesa?
[06:45] <UFO> meta: like vga or svga
[06:45] <ehjay> Any idea why /dev/cdrom has root user and group ownership and how I can fix that? k3b can't access my writer (using kubuntu breezy)
[06:45] <UFO> meta: standard
[06:45] <Flosoft> hey
[06:45] <Flosoft> why isn't java working anymore?
[06:46] <meta> !java
[06:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:46] <meta> :)
[06:46] <meta> hmm i found in adept
[06:46] <meta> xserver-xorg-driver-vesa
[06:46] <Flosoft> well me 2
[06:46] <meta> (installed) sorry for flooding
[06:46] <Flosoft> and it worked b4
[06:46] <Flosoft> but then there was an update of it ... and now I can't get it back to work
[06:47] <meta> i dunno...
[06:48] <Flosoft> how can I check if it is installed?
[06:48] <tchize> why same kubuntun install on 2 different computer brings, just after first startup , big visual differences? Font are big and bold on one computer and at a regular size on the other :/
[06:49] <ehjay> tchize: are your displays different resolution?
[06:49] <Flosoft> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/549993
[06:49] <Flosoft> I installed 1.5 following Synaptic
[06:50] <boha> --> help -->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[06:50] <boha> i get this on screen when i boot live cd
[06:50] <ehjay> tchize: grep DPI /var/log/Xorg.0.log - make sure the DPI (dots per inch) matches the size and res of your monitor)
[06:51] <tchize> ok
[06:51] <tchize> *outch*
[06:51] <tchize> DPI set to 104,113 that's curious value
[06:52] <ehjay> tchize: I had a similar issue.  My laptop display is 15.4 in 1900x1200 and my desktop is 19 in 1280x1024.  I had to manually set the DPI to get things reasonable
[06:52] <tchize> whe do you set dpi? in kdm?
[06:53] <ehjay> tchize: I editied /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:53] <ehjay> tchize: I don't know if there is a gui for setting it
[06:53] <tchize> am pretty sure
[06:53] <tchize> there is none :)
[06:54] <ehjay> tchize: under Section Monitor you need to add a line like "DisplaySize  number number"  where the numbers are the width and height of you monitor in mm.
[06:54] <BlueDevil> how do i turn the caps lock off?
[06:54] <BlueDevil> logged in via VNC
[06:54] <boha> ehjay?
[06:55] <ehjay> boha: yes?
[06:55] <boha> check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i8443
[06:55] <boha> i get this on screen when i boot live cd
[06:56] <ehjay> boha: what am I looking at?
[06:56] <boha> my screen :D
[06:56] <tchize> ehjay: a big crach of livecd? :)
[06:56] <boha> i get this on screen when i boot live cd
[06:56] <ehjay> boha: uhhh, it looks nice?
[06:56] <boha> and then nothing happen
[06:57] <ehjay> boha: got me there...
[06:57] <boha> ?
[06:57] <tchize> do you have an usb ide device?
[06:57] <aladds> hey, i just installed kubuntu on my pc, and i enabled the universe repositories and did 'apt-get update' but it's updating very slowly and the mouse moves very sluggishly
[06:57] <boha> i pulled out al usb things
[06:58] <tchize> boha: could you go in bios and deactivate usb?
[06:58] <boha> hmm i will try
[06:58] <boha> so, do yo thing usb is the problem?
[06:58] <tchize> anyway this is worth a bug report :)
[06:59] <ehjay> tchize: what's that?
[06:59] <tchize> usb_hcd_irq  : something is wrond handling you usb by the kernel, probably a kernel bug
[06:59] <aladds> when i go to the console i get some kind of error relating to irq 11
[07:00] <aladds> tchize: i believe i am having that exact problem
[07:00] <tchize> ehjay: is it a recent motherboard?
[07:00] <aladds> usb_hcd_irq
[07:00] <aladds> usbcore
[07:01] <ehjay> tchize: are you asking someone else that question?
[07:01] <aladds> "irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"
[07:01] <aladds> that message is being repeated over and over again
[07:01] <tchize> nope, only talking to you ehjay. But when a stack trace gets out of kernel it's nothing good :)
[07:02] <ehjay> tchize: I don't have any problems besides wondering how /dev/cdrom gets assigned root ownership on boot
[07:02] <UFO> have anyone tryed to install kubuntu over network
[07:02] <tchize> aladds: that mean somehardware is sending 'answers' to irq11, but kernel don't know what to do with it because no driver did claim this irq
[07:03] <aladds> ah
[07:03] <aladds> so, what can i do?
[07:03] <tchize> discover what is the faulty hardware :)
[07:03] <aladds> how can i work out what irq 11 is?
[07:03] <aladds> i have a PnP BIOS
[07:03] <aladds> :/
[07:04] <tchize> aladds: that's the problem, even the kernel was unable to work it out :)
[07:04] <ehjay> aladds: lspci is a good start
[07:04] <aladds> hmm
[07:04] <aladds> ok
[07:04] <ehjay> aladds: looks like lscpi doesn't give interrupt info
[07:05] <aladds> :/
[07:05] <ehjay> aladds: cat /proc/itnerrupts
[07:05] <ehjay> except spell it right :)
[07:05] <aladds> lol
[07:06] <aladds> aaaah!!!
[07:06] <aladds> i cannot get to a shell, they all have the error over and over
[07:06] <tchize> textmode shelles?
[07:06] <aladds> yeah
[07:06] <tchize> use a graphical one
[07:07] <aladds> i would
[07:07] <ehjay> aladds: is that aaaah!! as in surprise and alarm?
[07:07] <aladds> yes
[07:07] <aladds> :p
[07:07] <tchize> so it's not aaaaaaah as 'gotcha'
[07:08] <tchize> aladds:   alt-f2 in graphical mode and type xterm
[07:11] <antlarr> visik7: I abandones SuSEfirewall because I installed kubuntu :) and the other one is specific for SuSE (although it's based on iptables, so it should work too if it's installed correctly)
[07:11] <antlarr> UFO: I don't want a complete webmin installation to configure iptables correctly on my laptop...
[07:12] <visik7> antlarr: I mean why do u have abandoned suse ?
[07:12] <antlarr> ah
[07:13] <UFO> antlarr: you could install shorewall and use that from webmin
[07:13] <antlarr> I'm still using suse in my normal computer, but I had to reinstall it on my notebook and since I have a bunch of kubuntu CDs to give away at a conference next week, I thought it would be more correct if I had kubuntu on my notebook to show it
[07:14] <abda101> hi all
[07:14] <antlarr> I've been using suse since 1997, so I thought it was time to try something debian-based
[07:14] <visik7> antlarr: btw there is kmyfirewall (not provided by default anyway)
[07:15] <DevGet> since I  updated the flight3 cd install, the ndiswrapper module won't load, anyone with the same problem?
[07:16] <UFO> DevGet: ndiswrapper -m
[07:16] <antlarr> visik7: ok, I'll try that
[07:16] <DevGet> UFO: I have tried that, and rebooted after, but it still doesn't load the module...
[07:16] <visik7> antlarr: www.kde-apps.org reported a breezy package
[07:17] <antlarr> btw, do you usually add other sources to the apt source list after installing a new kubuntu system?
[07:17] <antlarr> visik7: thanks
[07:17] <m0ns00n> Anyone know if AMD 64 smp is stable now?
[07:17] <visik7> antlarr: editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:17] <visik7> ah
[07:17] <visik7> yes I do
[07:17] <antlarr> visik7: :)
[07:17] <visik7> kde351
[07:17] <visik7> wine
[07:18] <visik7> plf
[07:18] <antlarr> can you tell me the complete line in sources.list ?
[07:18] <visik7> of what ?
[07:18] <antlarr> to add wine, plf, etc.
[07:18] <visik7> and obviously universe and multiverse
[07:18] <antlarr> (I already added kde351)
[07:18] <UFO> DevGet: or add the ndiswrapper in /etc/modules file
[07:18] <antlarr> universe was added by the installation application
[07:19] <visik7> and amarok
[07:19] <DevGet> UFO: I have tried that too
[07:19] <UFO> hmm... actually i had the same problem but cant remember what i did...
[07:20] <DevGet> UFO: are you also runing the unstable?
[07:20] <UFO> DevGet: No i had it but it has the network bug so had to get rid of it
[07:20] <UFO> DevGet: why unstable? test reason?
[07:21] <DevGet> UFO: just for fun, I had som free space on the hard drive, so I run dualboot stable/unstable
[07:21] <visik7> antlarr: http://pastebin.com/550026
[07:22] <visik7> antlarr: this is my sources.list striped from useless stuff
[07:22] <visik7> opera repo is useless since it provided by plf
[07:23] <antlarr> visik7: thanks a lot
[07:24] <NRG88> hi, where can i set my default browser in KDE?
[07:24] <NRG88> i whould want to set firefox
[07:25] <kkathman> NRG88: kdecontrol, KDE components, Web Browser
[07:25] <kkathman> oops sorry kcontrol, not KDE control :)
[07:25] <Tm_T> hi kids
[07:25] <NRG88> ok, thanks
[07:25] <kkathman> hi Tm_T :)
[07:25] <NRG88> hi Tm_T  :)
[07:26] <jarlath> I (think I) have upgraded to kde3.5.1. Do I need to reboot or just log out for it to take effect?
[07:27] <visik7> jarlath: logout and ctrl+alt+backspace to restart kd,m
[07:27] <visik7> jarlath: logout and ctrl+alt+backspace to restart kdm
[07:27] <jarlath> thanks visik7 !
[07:27] <Tm_T> visik7: first logout...
[07:28] <Tm_T> oh well, hope nothing bad happened ;)
[07:30] <cjnodell> Hello
[07:30] <cjnodell> I have a question
[07:30] <UFO> cjnodell: tell
[07:32] <cjnodell> I was thinking about using Kubuntu as opposed to ubuntu but have a question about wireless. Assuming i have already set up my wirles card using ndiswrapper, is there a gui in kubuntu like network-admin in ubuntu that i can use to connect my wirless card with?
[07:33] <UFO> cjnodell: kde got everything gnome has and a bit more ;)
[07:33] <Blissex> cjnodell: kwifimanager usually
[07:34] <cjnodell> I have played around with kwifimanager, but have never gotten it to work
[07:36] <cjnodell> the wireless dose work when using network-admin in gnome. I could use the commandline, but i am trying to convince my family to switch and they hate the commandline
[07:36] <UFO> cjnodell: there is also network conf for network devices... kwifi manager handles the wifi networks if you got ie. home and work
[07:38] <cjnodell> Unfortunatles my wifi card is a bit silly and i have to constantly deactivate the interface, disconect the adapter, reconnect the addapter, then reactivate the interface using network-admin. (it is a problem with the adapter, i have to do this in windows too). doing all this with the commandline is too much for my family
[07:39] <cjnodell> ok, where is the network conf utility?
[07:39] <_micha> hallo
[07:39] <monteiro> how do i now that the pendisk i've connected to the computer is working at usb 2.0 ?
[07:39] <apu> hi all
[07:40] <_micha> mein kde startet nicht mehr. wo kann ich da die fehlersuche beginnen?
[07:40] <UFO> cjnodell: system-settings--->network-settings
[07:40] <apu> i have a problem with multiple users
[07:40] <cjnodell> I saw that when i was playing. I set up my home network on config 1 and made it default, and activated it. Kwifimanager says all is well and connected but no other apps (firefor kontact, so on) can acess the net
[07:40] <apu> i've been created a second acc (this)
[07:40] <cjnodell> k, i iwll check it out
[07:40] <apu> and when i'm log in during the loading screen i ahve this error:
[07:40] <apu> title: arts message
[07:41] <UFO> set the defaultgateway to wlan
[07:41] <UFO> cjnodell: set the default gateway to wlan device
[07:41] <apu> sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device/dev/dsp can't be opened (perm. denied) The sound server will continue, using the null output device
[07:42] <apu> please help me
[07:42] <aladds> try setting it to automatic
[07:42] <apu> where?
[07:42] <aladds> control center
[07:43] <UFO> cjnodell: its in routes section of network conf
[07:43] <apu> where?
[07:43] <apu> the sound, multimedia menu -> sound service and hardvare tab have a select sound device option
[07:43] <apu> and it setted to automatic
[07:44] <aladds> hmm
[07:44] <cjnodell> k. I went to system settings/internet &network/network settings and it says that i need to be root to make changes. i dont see a way to enable root mode... and no password was asked for
[07:44] <apu> it's not in english
[07:45] <apu> aladds: any idea?
[07:45] <aladds> you installed it in english?
[07:45] <apu> no
[07:45] <apu> @ hungarian
[07:45] <aladds> ah
[07:45] <aladds> ok
[07:45] <UFO> cjnodell: yep this is the wonderfull ubuntu option... :)
[07:46] <apu> i need arts?
[07:47] <aladds> dunno
[07:47] <aladds> i use alsa
[07:47] <aladds> when it works
[07:47] <apu> this problem is only with the second user
[07:47] <apu> with the first it works good.
[07:47] <aladds> hmm
[07:48] <apu> hmm
[07:48] <apu> and i can't start adept
[07:48] <apu> with second user
[07:48] <UFO> cjnodell: i use the kubuntu without the stupid sudo... this is the reason for the problem
[07:48] <aladds> is it in group wheel?
[07:48] <apu> it asks the root pw
[07:48] <aladds> or staff?
[07:48] <apu> but i don't know...
[07:48] <apu> i don't know what is groups, i saw it
[07:49] <apu> but i don't know...
[07:49] <aladds> in order to use sudo to get root, you need to be in group staff or wheel, or in the /etc/sudoers file
[07:49] <aladds> iirc
[07:49] <aladds> but only edit the file with the visudo command
[07:50] <apu> in kcontrol system setting -> users  & groups?
[07:50] <UFO> cjnodell: if you want this, type sudo passwd and give first your password then two times new root password... and edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.rc and there allowrootlogin=true
[07:50] <aladds> yes
[07:50] <aladds> but you need to do it from the first account
[07:50] <apu> ok, i'm go to the first
[07:50] <apu> yes..
[07:50] <UFO> cjnodell: then login to kde with your new root pass...
[07:50] <apu> the first nick is meta or metamorfozis
[07:50] <apu> i'm be back 1-2 minutes
[07:50] <apu> thx.
[07:50] <cjnodell> k, will give all that a try
[07:50] <aladds> :)