[07:17] <dholbach> good morning
[07:50] <Chipaca> seb128: welcome back. Anything else I need to fix in system settings other than that dependency?
[08:17] <sil2100> mandel: ping
[08:18] <sil2100> mandel: so, it seems the ofono landing from image #170 caused some regressions
[08:18] <sil2100> mandel: see bug LP: #1352744
[08:22] <Chipaca> mardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571
[08:23] <Chipaca> mardy: i can haz review? ^
[08:23] <mardy> Chipaca: I'll have a look ASAP
[08:23] <Chipaca> mardy: thanks muchly
[09:02] <mandel> sil2100, looking
[09:03] <Chipaca> Laney: I don't see the inconsistent indentation, what am I missing?
[09:05] <sil2100> mandel: abeato mentioned that it might be something we'll have to support from the indicator-network side
[09:06] <sil2100> mandel: but we also saw, generally, many many crashes in smoketesting as well for indicator-network, most probably caused by the same issue
[09:07] <mandel> sil2100, they issues is simple, they are querying an interface that is not exposed by ofono and they do not handle the exception, that is clearly a bug in their side, there is no way the ofono guys could deal with this bug
[09:07] <mandel> sil2100, and it is happening because they do not consider the case when there is no sim
[09:23] <sil2100> There was no indicator-network upload recently, so I wonder why it suddenly became a problem
[09:24] <sil2100> mandel: do you know why that started being a problem after the ofono upload?
[09:24] <mandel> sil2100, abeato t knows the exact changes
[09:26] <abeato> sil2100, maybe a change in the exposed interfaces in ofono: some interfaces that did not appear when there was no SIM now appear
[09:26] <abeato> for valid reasons
[09:26] <abeato> RadioSettings interface, for instance
[09:43] <nik90> MacSlow: ping
[09:48] <MacSlow> nik90, hey there... what's up?
[09:48] <nik90> MacSlow: Hi, I changed the alarm notification from snap decision to interactive notification since we had less than 2 actions to show.
[09:49] <MacSlow> nik90, good
[09:49] <nik90> MacSlow: however we are regressing in the timeout feature. The snap decisions were shown for xx minutes (10, 15, 30, 60 -> chosen by the user)..
[09:49] <nik90> MacSlow: however this doesn't seem to be available for interactive notifications
[09:49] <MacSlow> nik90, by design configureable timeouts are restriected to snap-decisions.
[09:50] <nik90> MacSlow: hmm, then we need to revert back to using snap notifications :/
[09:50] <MacSlow> nik90, speaking about the alarm-reminder notification...
[09:50] <nik90> MacSlow: this design was given to me by the design team, https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g18895458d_00
[09:52] <MacSlow> nik90, there's this "2 over 1"-button layout-case for snap-decisions I had to implement... (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI-uBmr_TNQ&t=0m17s) might that be something for your use-case?
[09:53] <seb128> Chipaca, hey, sorry was away, no just the depends
[09:53] <Chipaca> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/gsettings-schema-depends-fix/+merge/229567
[09:53] <seb128> Chipaca, thanks
[09:53] <nik90> MacSlow: in that notification at 00:18, can we show only the Ok button?
[09:53] <MacSlow> nik90, no
[09:54] <Chipaca> seb128: sorry i seem to have pushed that a bit too hard
[09:54] <MacSlow> nik90, this three-button layout is mandatory
[09:54] <nik90> MacSlow: not sure how that helps me here
[09:54] <MacSlow> nik90, I think there's a design-alighment issue within the design-team :)
[09:54] <nik90> MacSlow: :D
[09:56] <nik90> MacSlow: I can think of two actions "Dismiss" and "Show" that we could add in the alarm notification, but the "Show" action seems unnecessary. Ofc we need this one button solution only until RTM. Post RTM we will have the snooze functionality implemented
[09:56] <nik90> well few months POST-RTM
[09:57] <MacSlow> nik90, stick with interactive then for the time being
[09:57] <nik90> MacSlow: I can't. The alarm then stops ringing after 5 seconds.
[09:57] <nik90> MacSlow: I can't wake up to that short duration :P
[09:59] <nik90> Mirv: Would you know when sergieusens generally comes online? If not, would you have some time to help with some cmake issues for the clock app?
[09:59] <MacSlow> nik90, I could add another hint (*sigh²*) to allow custom timeouts for interacitve notifications... but I'm already at 12 branches (just for notifications) in the pipe and don't want to inject something like this from the side without all involved parties knowing (and having thought) about it
[10:00] <dpm> hi Saviq, do you know if the phone reboot/shutdown dialog is part of Unity8? It's missing translations and I'm trying to figure out what to file the bug against
[10:00] <nik90> MacSlow: I understand. How about I check with the concerned parties and then let you know. This way you don't need to start on anything until I confirm this 100%.
[10:01] <nik90> MacSlow: Can you let me know who I should talk to about this? Obviously design team is one.
[10:13] <Chipaca> Laney: if you're around, i've just pushed fixes for the issues you found in review. I'm unsure as to the translations fix, as I don't know when those rules are run (they don't seem to be run as part of the package build)
[10:16] <Mirv> nik90: sergiusens was awake 3h ago, so I'm afraid he's now gone for some hours. I've not used cmake much myself.
[10:16] <nik90> Mirv: no worries. I will wait for sergiusens to return. Thnx
[10:16] <Mirv> ok!
[10:52] <Waleed> hello
[11:35] <Chipaca> mpt: question for you sir: http://people.canonical.com/~john/settings-notifications.png anything we can do to avoid that?
[11:41] <mgreg> does anybody know anything about building and using libhybris, or is there a better place to ask these kind of questions?
[11:56] <bzoltan1> slangasek:Hello,  I would need this MR to land on the utopic seeds -> https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-seeds/add_settings/+merge/229602 So we can announce the Settings API to the app developers. For the same (and even more) reason we need this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/click/extend_1410_fw/+merge/227675 merged so the click chroots contain all the necessary APIs and documentation.
[11:58] <mpt> Chipaca, yes, set the text so that it overflows the box in preference to wrapping within a word
[12:00] <mpt> Chipaca, also, widen the box for each category (note that the wireframe shows only three columns in portrait mode, not four)
[12:00] <Chipaca> mpt: hmm. Sounds like a bug in system settings itself.
[12:00] <Chipaca> will file.
[12:01] <mpt> thanks
[12:02] <mardy> elopio: hi! Do you have a minute to talk about U1 reauthentications?
[12:02] <slangasek> bzoltan1: the latter has a 'needs fixing' review from cjwatson, does it need re-reviewed?
[12:02] <Chipaca> mpt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1352866
[12:03] <mpt> thanks!
[12:03] <slangasek> bzoltan1: I assume you want him reviewing this rather than me anyway :)
[12:03] <bzoltan1> slangasek: I do not know. cjwatson seems to be super busy and the changes we need for the SDK is just piling up.
[12:04] <bzoltan1> slangasek: we have the Settings API, the UITK documentation and a bunch of other QML APIs.
[12:04] <bzoltan1> slangasek: I just want these changes in to the click chroots as soon as possible.
[12:04] <slangasek> bzoltan1: ok, I'm asking whether you've addressed cjwatson's previous "needs fixing" points and if it needs re-review
[12:05] <cjwatson> bzoltan1: I already told you I'd deal with it this week
[12:05] <bzoltan1> cjwatson: no bad feeling, but that MR is a trivial one and it is celebrating its two weeks age today
[12:05] <cjwatson> Everything you do is allegedly critical
[12:05] <cjwatson> I have something else critical I'm working on right now
[12:05] <cjwatson> I'll get back to you
[12:06] <bzoltan1> cjwatson: The click chroot is the core and foundation of the SDK. Sure it is critical for me.
[12:06] <cjwatson> I'll get back to you
[12:06] <cjwatson> I'm fully aware it needs to be done
[12:07] <cjwatson> Right now I have most images other than touch broken and need to fix those
[12:07] <bzoltan1> cjwatson: I understand. can somebody else take care of this rather trivial MR?
[12:07] <cjwatson> My backup for click is away
[12:07] <cjwatson> And no it's certainly not trivial given that you've broken it multiple times in the history of the MP
[12:08] <cjwatson> I have no faith in it any more and will have to test it independently
[12:13] <ogra_> bzoltan1, hmm, could you stick to one persone in one channel when pinging people about merges ... i see you also asked slangasek for the seed change ...
[12:14] <bzoltan1> ogra_: sorry
[12:15] <ogra_> np, i just dont want to cause mid-air crashes with changes being committed by two people :)
[12:40] <nik90> sergiusens: ping
[13:20] <cwayne1> artmello: ping -- any update on opening gallery to a specific image?
[13:21] <artmello> cwayne1: unfortunately not yet, ther eis some bugs with gallery that took the priority
[13:22] <robotfuel> Wellark: ping, has there been any progress on this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1343341
[13:28] <robjh> i'm enjoying the channels topic
[13:30]  * popey wonders which bit
[13:33] <Chipaca> mpt: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/wider-grid/+merge/229616
[13:33] <mpt> \o/
[13:36] <pmcgowan> Chipaca, ;)
[13:36] <mpt> Chipaca, do you know why the “Accounts” category is missing from your screenshot?
[13:36] <robjh> popey, all the pipes!
[13:38] <Chipaca> mpt: probably because i built it on the phone myself
[13:39] <dholbach> sergiusens, barry: maybe you could have a chat about bug 1347745 :)
[13:39] <barry> dholbach: sure
[13:41]  * barry waves to sergiusens
[13:41] <sergiusens> barry: dholbach added myself and a task for u-d-f for tracking later. But I think I understood it fine
[13:42] <sergiusens> I can pingback when I find something over irc/bug
[13:42] <dholbach> thanks muchly!
[13:42] <barry> thanks!
[14:15] <Chipaca> kenvandine: who should top-approve that system settings branch?
[14:15] <Chipaca> pmcgowan: hah! now i see my mail and finally understand what you were a-winking about :)
[14:16] <Chipaca> kenvandine: (the one about the looser grid)
[14:16] <zyga> hi
[14:16] <kenvandine> Chipaca, i will
[14:16] <Chipaca> kenvandine: thanks
[14:16] <kenvandine> after we get a CI pass
[14:16] <kenvandine> Chipaca, i'll also get it in a silo
[14:16] <kenvandine> along with a couple other branches
[14:16] <Chipaca> kenvandine: CI has been hit-n-miss, fwiw
[14:16] <kenvandine> Chipaca, yeah... not surprised
[14:17] <kenvandine> :/
[14:17] <Chipaca> kenvandine: if you get them in a silo, please add https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/gsettings-schema-depends-fix/+merge/229567 to it?
[14:18] <Chipaca> that leaves just https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571 to get sorted
[14:18] <Chipaca> which reminds me, gatox, this branch ^ might be relevant to your interests
[14:18] <gatox> Chipaca, ack
[14:18] <kenvandine> Chipaca, ok, will do
[14:19] <Chipaca> kenvandine: thanks
[14:19] <kenvandine> np
[14:20] <zyga> I have a question about app lifecycle
[14:20] <zyga> let's say I have an unconstrained application
[14:20] <zyga> and it has additional processes running
[14:20] <zyga> what happens when I switch to another app (for any reason)
[14:21] <zyga> is the whole process group suspended?
[14:23] <sergiusens> zyga: should be correct
[14:24] <Chipaca> zyga: if it's unconstrained, the other processes can probably escape though
[14:33] <nik90> sergiusens: hey, you got a minute
[14:34] <zyga> thanks
[14:34] <sergiusens> nik90: yeah
[14:34] <zyga> I'll try a few things out and see how it works
[14:34] <sergiusens> on multiple threads
[14:34] <kenvandine> jgdx, i'm noticing multiple branches, unrelated to cellular have 100% failure of the cellular tests
[14:34] <nik90> sergiusens: hey, we are currently working getting the debian packaging ready for the new clock app. However we are hitting some cmake issues.
[14:34] <sergiusens> Chipaca: zyga not lifecycle; they need an exception for that
[14:34] <kenvandine> jgdx, have you seen that?  maybe with dual sim it isn't setting up phonesim right? seems like a much lower level problem
[14:35] <nik90> sergiusens: I was wondering if you could take a look at it when you have time and suggest some fixes.
[14:35] <sergiusens> nik90: have an MP I can look at or branch?
[14:35] <nik90> sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot-packaging/+merge/229173
[14:35] <sergiusens> nik90: I'll check later today if you don't mind (+2h)
[14:36] <nik90> sergiusens: np
[14:36] <sergiusens> I'll try and just give you a working diff
[14:36] <nik90> sergiusens: its not urgent
[14:36] <nik90> sergiusens: ok
[14:37] <dholbach> sergiusens, nik90: added a quick comment with what's missing AFAICS
[14:38] <nik90> dholbach: I know how to fix files in "usr/lib probably need their own, a bit more descriptive directory name", but the rest is something I am struggling with. Took a look at reminders and file manager app, but their cmake file is a bit to what we have which makes it harder to use.
[14:39] <dholbach> yeah... I'm not sure how to solve each of them
[14:39] <dholbach> that's why I thought I would at least mention what I saw
[14:43] <elopio> mardy: I am here.
[14:43] <elopio> I can get some time to talk to you. Let me know when's a good moment.
[14:44] <mardy> elopio: hi! Even now, we can "talk" here on IRC
[14:44] <elopio> ok, tell me how can I help you.
[14:45] <mardy> elopio: I'm working on covering the case when the U1 password has been changed remotely in the server
[14:45] <mardy> elopio: that is, when we need to ask the user for a new password
[14:45] <mardy> elopio: I see that U1 has its own signon authentication plugin (which is good)
[14:46] <mardy> elopio: do I understand correctly that ATM this use-case is not implemented?
[14:47] <elopio> mardy: I am almost sure it is not implemented. But alecu is your man.
[14:48] <mardy> elopio: thanks, I'll talk to him then
[14:48] <mardy> alecu: ^ :-)
[14:48] <elopio> as far as I can tell, not even on the desktop was that ever implemented. You just got unsuccessul authentication, and had to go to edit the password manually. But he'll be able to tell you more.
[14:50] <jgdx> kenvandine, I think it's gsettings-qt, but I don't understand why
[14:50] <alecu> elopio: mardy: I know nothing about that use case, but I can investigate what's the status.
[14:50] <kenvandine> jgdx, those passed when we landed your branch
[14:50] <jgdx> kenvandine, looking at it, the dep isn't there, but I thought the latest version of gsettings-qt was in the archives.
[14:51] <kenvandine> ? i remember having you bump the dep version
[14:51] <jgdx> kenvandine, I woke up in the middle of the night remembering that I've might have missed that.
[14:51] <kenvandine> ah :)
[14:51] <kenvandine> well it landed though
[14:52] <kenvandine> the gsettings-qt branch that is
[14:52] <kenvandine> it's in the archive
[14:52] <kenvandine> qtdeclarative5-gsettings1.0 amd64 0.1+14.10.20140801.1-0ubuntu1
[14:52] <kenvandine> was installed for the test
[14:53] <kenvandine> settings-ubuntu-schemas all 0.0.2+14.10.20140802.1-0ubuntu1
[14:53] <mardy> alecu: thanks
[14:53] <kenvandine> right schemas right?
[14:53] <jgdx> kenvandine, no, it's gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas
[14:54] <kenvandine> jgdx, oh... and actually without that gsettings-qt fix, you only had one test failing
[14:54] <kenvandine> jgdx, i think that got renamed or something
[14:54] <kenvandine> i think they consolidated the schemas
[14:54] <kenvandine> Laney had a branch that landed i believe
[14:54] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah they wanted to remove the touch fix..
[14:54] <kenvandine> since your's
[14:55] <jgdx> kenvandine, what's the way forward? Landing a branch with the right deps?
[14:55] <kenvandine> do you really think the dep is the problem?
[14:56] <jgdx> kenvandine, what specific build failed due to cellular tests? do you have the link handy?
[14:57] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/gsettings-schema-depends-fix/+merge/229567
[14:57] <kenvandine> notice the branch name :)
[14:57] <kenvandine> it's exactly what you mentioned
[14:57] <jgdx> elopio, I've hit a dead end in the page object pattern in this branch[1]. Care to take a look? :) [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/call-fwd-wait-dual-sim
[14:57] <kenvandine> but that fails
[14:57] <jgdx> ah :)
[14:58] <Chipaca> jgdx: kenvandine: what did i break now? :-/
[14:58] <kenvandine> Chipaca, not you... it failed in at least one other branch too
[14:58] <jgdx> Chipaca, nothing :P
[14:58] <kenvandine> CI hasn't run since you added the .1 though
[14:58] <jgdx> kenvandine, looking at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7961789/
[14:58] <elopio> jgdx: of course. I will in ~30 minutes.
[14:59] <jgdx> elopio, thanks!
[14:59] <jgdx> kenvandine, fails in the exact same way as https://bugs.launchpad.net/gsettings-qt/+bug/1349787
[14:59] <kenvandine> jgdx, that does look like the problem
[15:03] <jgdx> kenvandine, I need someone smarter than me looking at why. HINT :P
[15:03] <jgdx> kenvandine, if you're swamped I could try to investigate.
[15:04] <kenvandine> i'm looking.. but rather confused too
[15:04] <kenvandine> jgdx, the version the fix landed in is there... and i know we tested it
[15:04] <jgdx> kenvandine, dual sim call forwarding/wait/simservices seems to be on track. Good work on that btw
[15:04] <kenvandine> cool
[15:05] <cwayne1> beuno: ping
[15:05] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, nerochiaro: https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/camera-app/content_source/+merge/229250 will require approval (and top-approval) for it to build in a silo
[15:06] <beuno> cwayne1, hi
[15:07] <cwayne1> beuno: hi, do we have a standard terms of service for uploading an app to the store? third-party partners asking for them
[15:07] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, unless you flip the right switch :)
[15:07] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, bfiller said there was a switch somewhere
[15:08] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, yeah, but given that nerochiaro has reviewed the MR already, I’d rather have a formal approval
[15:08] <nerochiaro> Kaleo: i top approved it
[15:08] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ^
[15:08] <oSoMoN> thanks
[15:09] <beuno> cwayne1, it got lost in some redesign, I need to bring it back
[15:09] <cwayne1> beuno: ah, okay.  do we have them locally anywhere then?
[15:11] <beuno> cwayne1, I don't have it handy, jpugh might
[15:11] <beuno> (otp)
[15:16] <cjwatson> beuno: I went out and bought a stack of USB keys for the click store master key this afternoon, so making gradual progress on that ...
[15:16] <cjwatson> EOHMYGODITISASPRINTSONOTIME
[15:17] <beuno> cjwatson, this is how I imagine it's generated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Planet_and_the_Planeteers#mediaviewer/File:ThePlaneteers.JPG
[15:18] <beuno> cjwatson, in the mean time, we're using an IS-controlled self-generated key on staging, rattling all the stack to do a first pass of QA and iteration
[15:26] <cjwatson> beuno: it is EXACTLY like that
[15:27]  * beuno adds "security expert" to his linkedin skills
[15:40] <sergiusens> cjwatson: can you look at the packaging preNew stuff for http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?q=sergiusens ?
[15:40]  * sergiusens notices he sent this on the wrong channel :/
[15:42] <cjwatson> sergiusens: would another archive admin be available?  I've been trying to concentrate on a critical parted bug for most of the day and failing
[15:43] <sergiusens> no worries cjwatson
[15:43] <elopio> ping ricmm_: do you have at hand the bug to track the various improvements that will get us better app start up time?
[16:04] <ajalkane> I deleted from SDK my UbuntuSDK armhf kits since I've been having trouble compiling. What's the easiest way to get it back?
[16:10] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, camera-app building in silo 8 with your MR
[16:13] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, thank you, I pushed 2 revs since I asked, are they in?
[16:13] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, although I'm confused slightly
[16:13] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, what is the point of a silo in this case
[16:13] <ajalkane> well, I'll just purge ubuntu-sdk and reinstall
[16:13] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, since it is a click app
[16:13] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, and I only touched the app (no dependent lib)
[16:14] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, yes, but system apps need to land in the archive first, as they are debian packages as well, afaik
[16:14] <Mirv> ajalkane: just guessing, but if you can afford losing Qt Creator configuration you might want try resetting that
[16:14] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, I do want to kill myself :)
[16:15] <ajalkane> I have no modifications that I couldn't lose
[16:16] <Mirv> ajalkane: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1164504 in that case but don't typo :) (maybe safer if you cd .config first before using "rm -rf" and "*" near each other...)
[16:16] <ajalkane> thanks
[16:17] <Chipaca> kenvandine: also, also: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-1352988/+merge/229657
[16:25] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, once the build is complete in the PPA, we can check the package diff to verify that your last revisions are in
[16:26] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, ok
[16:26] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/181590709/camera-app_3.0.0%2B14.10.20140730-0ubuntu1_3.0.0%2B14.10.20140805-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[16:26] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, does that contain your latest revs?
[16:27] <oSoMoN> looks like it does
[16:40] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, packages in silo 8 are built, now you should test them (testing a click generated from the exact same branch in fact I guess) against the test plan (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/camera-app), and once you confirm it’s all good, let me know and I’ll mark it ready to publish
[16:45] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, I did that already
[16:47] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, ok, marked tested, I’ll request the landing team to publish it
[16:47] <Kaleo> oSoMoN, thx
[16:58] <oSoMoN> Kaleo, camera-app is landing, once the landing is complete we’ll need a new click package to be pushed to the store, I believe popey can help us with that
[17:17] <daker> Chipaca: yo, know how twitter notifications works on the phone ?
[17:17] <Chipaca> daker: very well
[17:18] <Chipaca> allegedly :)
[17:18] <Chipaca> daker: what do you need to know?
[17:19] <daker> Chipaca: i am having an issue with it, it's keeps pulling notifications from february on every reboot/upgrade
[17:19] <Chipaca> daker: I believe that that is a known issue that sergiusens has fixed or is fixing as i type
[17:19] <Chipaca> daker: but i might be wrong on that
[17:20] <daker> ok, thanks
[17:20] <Chipaca> i think that twitter was done, and gmail was pending still.
[17:22]  * daker is running r173
[17:26] <Chipaca> sergiusens: poke
[17:30] <sergiusens> Chipaca: poke avoided, pokes back
[17:31] <Chipaca> sergiusens: twitter notifications repeating on boot or reinstall
[17:31] <Chipaca> sergiusens: that was the persistence thing you were working on,y es?
[17:33] <ogra_> mterry, oh ... what happens if i defined a PIN and then set a password from the terminal ... will the screen locking etc cope with that ? (since it needs to change the security type)
[17:34] <mterry> ogra_, it will present the PIN dialog  :-/
[17:34] <ogra_> ouch
[17:34] <mterry> ogra_, you'll need to update another AS field to change the presentation
[17:35] <ogra_> something could check for the password lenght to do that ;)
[17:35] <ogra_> anyway, just a corner case
[17:38] <Chipaca> mpt: if you thought Notification\ns was nice, wait till you see http://people.canonical.com/~john/lovely.png
[17:40] <mterry> ogra_, how do we check for password length?
[17:40] <mterry> not to mention someone could have 4 letter passphrase  :)
[17:40] <ogra_> hmm, no idea ... yeah, you would have to check for numeric too ...
[17:41] <mterry> ogra_, ideally maybe we would move our password setting logic into some new pam module, that could make sure the two things are in sync
[17:41] <ogra_> i guess you would need to decrypt it and parse it ... then pick a UI based on the result
[17:41] <mterry> ogra_, hah, just brute force their password while they wait at the welcome screen?  ;)
[17:42] <ogra_> heh, well, you need to know the username
[17:43] <ogra_> i guess a pam backend would actually be a good idea
[17:43] <ogra_> i dont think it is urgent or that this is a common case ... i was just curious :)
[17:44] <ogra_> long term it would be nice to fix it though :)
[17:57] <peter____> hi
[17:57] <Chipaca> peter____: hi
[17:57] <peter____> I just wanted to ask whether it is possible to install ubuntu touch on a locked phone
[17:58] <peter____> I spotted a reasonably priced nexus 4 that is locked to O2
[17:58] <peter____> (on ebay) ;)
[18:08] <sergiusens> Chipaca: affirmative
[18:08] <sergiusens> Chipaca: working on that now
[18:08] <sergiusens> Chipaca: I will not report anything from twitter until something new happens since started
[18:14] <peter____> I just found a website saying it would be possible. Can anyone verify that?
[18:20] <Chipaca> daker: you read that?
[18:25] <daker> Chipaca: yes‚ thanks
[18:32] <daker> Chipaca: sergiusens can you please point me to the code ?
[18:33] <sergiusens> daker: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-push-hackers/account-polld/trunk/view/head:/plugins/twitter/twitter.go
[18:34] <daker> sergiusens: thanks
[18:51] <ajalkane> How can I debug what's wrong: Trying to build a project in SDK for device. I have the correct UbuntuSDK kit selected, htiting Ctrl+B gives error: "No targets speiecified and no makefile found"
[18:52] <ajalkane> I try to run "Build -> Run CMake" but apparently nothing happens - no errors given either. I'm a bit at loss. Can I somehow build a click package for arm from command-line?
[18:52] <charles> nik90, did you have a chance to talk to macslow about the interactive notifications?
[18:53] <nik90> charles: I did. I will be having a hangout with him and the designers to discuss this tomorrow afternoon 12:00 UTC.
[18:54] <charles> nik90, sounds good
[18:54] <charles> nik90, let me know what happens
[18:54] <nik90> charles: Interactive notifications indeed do not accept custom timeouts due to design decision. Since this conflicts with our requirement, we will be discussing to see what should happen.
[18:54] <nik90> charles: definitely will let you know how it goes
[19:11] <nik90> kenvandine: hey I see the silent mode option in the system settings sound panel. Any plans to expose this in the sound indicator? Also enabling sound mode doesn't change the sound level in the sound indicator.
[19:11] <nik90> kenvandine: is this a WIP or should I report them as bugs?
[19:13] <kenvandine> nik90, there's already a bug for the silent mode in the indicator
[19:14] <nik90> kenvandine: ah ok
[19:15] <kenvandine> nik90, bug 1342151
[19:16] <kenvandine> nik90, just need someone to implement it :)
[19:16] <nik90> kenvandine: :)
[19:18] <nik90> rsalveti: hey, I haven't had much luck in getting the recent emulators to run. The latest one I am trying now atm is 176. It doesn't have the unity8 process started
[19:18] <rsalveti> nik90: yeah, known, fix in the archive, next image should be a working one
[19:18] <rsalveti> nik90: caused by latest uitk update
[19:18] <nik90> rsalveti: ah ok
[19:19] <rsalveti> sorry for the trouble :-)
[19:19] <nik90> np
[19:48] <nik90> jdstrand: how do you check for denials? Sry I forgot to note down when you mentioned this last time :/
[19:49] <nik90> jdstrand: I did sudo dmesg -T | grep DEN, but that didnt show any
[19:50] <jdstrand> nik90: grep DEN /var/log/syslog
[19:50] <jdstrand> nik90: dmesg has some, but not dbus denials so always look in syslog
[19:50] <nik90> jdstrand: ah ok. I noticed something strange now. The old clock present in the default image shows some denials when I try to run it
[19:50] <daker> sergiusens: while you are on it, can you use https instead of http ?
[19:51] <nik90> jdstrand: Aug  5 21:44:15 ubuntu-phablet dbus[2413]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="session" path="/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/SourceManager" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.ObjectManager" member="GetManagedObjects" mask="send" name=":1.53" pid=25217 profile="com.ubuntu.developer.nik90.ubuntu-clock-app_ubuntu-clock-app_0.1"
[19:51] <nik90> peer_pid=2809 peer_profile="unconfined"
[19:51]  * nik90 notes down the command meanwhile
[19:51] <sergiusens> daker: you should ge redirected; I did http initially as the url dispatcher was only configured for http; I can change that now
[19:53] <daker> sergiusens: i suspect that using the http url make the webapp-container to not load the userscript that hides the android ios
[19:53] <daker> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/Web/twitter-no-omniprompt.js#L20
[19:56] <jdstrand> nik90: you need the (reserved) calendar policy group
[19:57] <nik90> jdstrand: hmm strange that I see in trunk but it wasn't there when I executed the clock app locally. But I will figure out why that is. thnx
[20:29] <ajalkane> for histories sake... I had to remove the old Kit and add a new Kit targeting 14.10
[20:30] <bzoltan1> nik90:  yes, the apparmor.json file must be in the root
[20:31] <nik90> bzoltan1: okay, I will report bugs against the concerned core apps to fix that.
[21:02] <tedg> Hmm, someone from Germany downloaded my app. Guessing ogra_ ;-)
[21:03] <tedg> beuno, Is there something like an rss feed of new apps?
[21:11] <beuno> tedg, not at the moment, no
[21:12] <tedg> beuno, Ah, okay. If I wish really hard will it happen? :-)
[21:13] <beuno> tedg, lets see
[21:14]  * tedg wishes really hard
[21:25] <tvoss> tedg, it was me :)
[21:25] <tedg> Ha!
[21:25] <tedg> :-)
[21:25] <tvoss> tedg, or Merkel ... aluding to your theory of 5 people living in germany
[21:26] <tedg> tvoss, Heh, I have her cell phone logs, just like everyone in the US, I know it wasn't her.
[21:26] <tvoss> tedg, lol
[22:22] <ogra_> tedg, which app is that ?
[23:10] <tedg> ogra_, Ubuntu App Startup, displays the data QA has been gathering
[23:10] <tedg> ogra_, But tvoss took credit for being the German.


[00:19] <shadowmancer> Anyone home O.O
[01:56] <APesch> How do I join ##java?
[01:56] <APesch> Keeps saying I need to be identified?
[01:57] <persia> APesch: /msg nickserv help
[01:57] <APesch> I already registered and Identified with this username
[01:58] <persia> No idea then.  Sorry.
[01:58] <APesch> Alright, thanks
[01:59] <lifeless> APesch: you haven't identified to nickserv
[01:59] <APesch> Check again
[01:59] <lifeless> APesch: you can tell, by typing '/whois apesch' and comparing with '/whois lifeless'
[01:59] <APesch> I just reconnected to the server
[01:59] <lifeless> APesch: connecting doesn't identify you, in fact, if you were identified, it unidentifies you
[01:59] <APesch> Hey wait
[02:00] <APesch> The nickserv responded that I was identified
[02:00] <APesch> But it didn't actually identify me?
[02:00] <APesch> What gives?
[02:00] <APesch> I re-identified after I reconnected
[02:02] <lifeless> well, you're not identified
[02:02] <lifeless> I'd chat to a freenode staffer
[02:02] <APesch> Alright, thanks
[02:25]  * nDuff supposes that most of a week of delay is probably enough to make reposting his previous question less of a faux pas...
[02:25] <nDuff> How is JAVA_HOME set in Ubuntu? Somewhere, libvirt-java's configure script is getting "/usr/lib/jvm/java" as the path to use for JAVA_HOME, regardless of what's set in the environment.
[02:25] <nDuff> (creating a symlink from /usr/lib/jvm/java to my desired JRE *does* work around the issue, but seems somewhat less than optimal)
[02:29] <lifeless> nDuff: no idea ?
[02:30] <nDuff> huh. Oh, well -- at least I have a workaround. :)
[02:30] <nDuff> lifeless, btw, how goes it?
[02:31] <lifeless> pretty good
[02:31] <lifeless> working up some review support stuff for bzr
[02:32] <lifeless> have a huge merge is no use if you can't review it easily
[02:32] <nDuff> *nod*; that might be interesting to see.
[02:33] <lifeless> I'm taking a web2y approach - tagging content in the tree
[02:33] <lifeless> calling it marks to avoid confusion with revision tags
[02:33]  * nDuff has a new employer (Dell's SAAS division) now; his immediate team is using git, but having some compelling use cases for bzr might come in handy if there's a future opportunity to switch.
[02:33] <lifeless> cool
[02:33] <lifeless> we do quite a bit with Dell :)
[02:36] <nDuff> I've seen press releases and such to that effect, though the particular group (read: acquired startup) I'm in is currently a CentOS shop (a context in which Dell's Red Hat and Fedora engineering contacts are quite handy).
[02:36] <nDuff> ...well, for the servers; internal desktops are largely Ubuntu, which is the context I'm here for.
[02:37] <lifeless> nice :)
[02:37] <nDuff> (officially lab machines, not supported by Dell IT... but arguably that's for the better, as it means we get root on our own workstations).
[05:44] <dholbach> gooooood morning


[17:36] <Kilos> evening superfly and others
[17:37] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:37]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:41] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:41] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, botsnack
[17:41] <Maaz> *crunch*
[22:31] <Squirm> fp
[22:32] <highvoltage> sp
[22:32] <Squirm> bed
[22:32] <Squirm> night


[01:12] <greg_> why won't gpg give my keys a public id?
[01:12] <greg_> it just says rsa3072
[01:13] <sarnold> what is "it" in this case?
[01:13] <greg_> gpg --list-keys
[01:14] <sarnold> and that's where it stops?
[01:14] <sarnold> pub   rsa2048/F32172599D8D2E97 2012-09-17 [SC]
[01:15] <sarnold> that's the first line of mine..
[01:15] <greg_> i have rsa and date
[01:15] <greg_> but not that number
[01:15] <greg_> https://imgur.com/4flTqGa.png
[01:15] <sarnold> oh very strange. gpg --list-keys | grep rsa shows keyids on every line
[01:16] <greg_> tried twice now its not given me an id on either
[01:16] <sarnold> try gpg --list-keys --with-colons --- that forces it into a "standardized" output
[01:17] <greg_> https://imgur.com/MhlGFjl.png
[01:18] <sarnold> the fpr line has it
[01:19] <greg_> where
[01:19] <greg_> the 16 digit thing?
[01:20] <greg_> https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey
[01:20] <greg_> list it as like 6 digits
[01:20] <sarnold> yeah, that guide was written ages ago
[01:20] <sarnold> everyone uses fingerprints now instead of the short keyids https://evil32.com/
[01:25] <greg_> why does launchpad log me out every 15 seconds
[01:27] <sarnold> excellent question; do you perhaps block cookies or something similar?
[01:29] <greg_> nope
[01:39] <greg_> i pushed my key and its been atleast 10minutes but I still cant add it
[01:50] <wgrant> greg_: Why can't you add it?
[01:51] <greg_> how would I know?
[01:51] <wgrant> Did you try to add it? What happened when you did?
[01:51] <greg_>  Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key
[01:51] <greg_>     Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly? (Help with fingerprints)
[01:51] <greg_>     Is your key in the Ubuntu keyserver yet? You may have to wait between ten minutes (if you pushed directly to the Ubuntu key server) and one hour (if you pushed your key to another server). (Help with publishing keys)
[01:52] <wgrant> Launchpad doesn't log you out automatically, but if you're editing sensitive information like authentication keys it will prompt for your password or 2FA if you haven't authenticated in the last five minutes.
[01:52] <wgrant> What's the fingerprint you entered?
[01:52] <greg_> 6625 7ED0 74E7 5DAC 205D 9605 0517 CC87 9AAF 4A82
[01:52] <wgrant> How did you push the key?
[01:53] <greg_> https://imgur.com/ShJ4gdJ.png
[02:00] <wgrant> greg_: There's a typo in the fingerprint
[02:00] <wgrant> It's 0157, not 0517
[02:03] <greg_> ah
[02:03] <greg_> im dyslexic
[02:03] <wgrant> A properly formatted but typoed fingerprint is not something I've run into before, heh
[02:04] <greg_> i swear i checked it 5x
[02:05] <greg_> bleh now what do I do with this email
[02:08] <wgrant> It'll have a blob of encrypted text. Just run "gpg" on the commandline, paste the text in (including the BEGIN and END lines), and hit Ctrl+D
[02:08] <wgrant> Then you'll get a link
[02:09] <greg_> bleh I cant copy paste to this vm
[02:09] <greg_> i wanna die
[02:10] <wgrant> A pastebin might be your friend.
[02:10] <wgrant> Since it's encrypted
[02:12] <sarnold> heh :)
[02:12] <greg_> trying to enable ssh but ubuntu
[02:12] <sarnold> you could also ssh into your vm, then you can use you terminal's copy-and-paste rather than the VM's copy-less-paste-less thing
[02:13] <wgrant> "but ubuntu"?
[02:13] <wgrant> "sudo apt install ssh"
[02:13] <sarnold> oh handy, I didn't know we had an ssh metapackage :)
[02:14] <wgrant> Yeah, pulls in openssh-{client,server}
[02:14] <greg_> yes I did that
[02:15] <greg_> but [greg@greg-desktop ~]$ ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:15] <greg_> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[02:15] <greg_> and I dont see any other adapters
[02:16] <wgrant> <IP_ADDRESS> is most likely to be your VM host
[02:16] <wgrant> That's the default libvirt IPv4 subnet, and .1 is the host, not a VM
[02:16] <greg_> somehow vm has 10.x ips that I cant even ping so idk
[02:18] <greg_> this like step 20 and every steps been pita
[02:19] <wgrant> That's something that's going to completely depend on how you are running the VM
[02:22] <greg_> i got in
[02:24] <greg_> jesus christ
[02:24] <greg_> https://imgur.com/C9FLDpx.png
[02:25] <greg_> ok worked second time for no clear reason
[02:29] <greg_> ok now im back where I started
[02:29] <greg_> gpg: skipped "greg <greg@greg-vm>": No secret key
[02:29] <greg_> gpg: /tmp/debsign.z79jEt3O/lcov_1.14-2~ubuntu18.04.1~ppa1.dsc: clear-sign failed: No secret key
[02:30] <wgrant> Your email address in debian/changelog needs to match an email address on your OpenPGP key, or you need to rerun the command with -k$KEYID
[02:31] <greg_> i havent made any changelog
[02:31] <greg_> backportpackage -u ppa:cheeseboy16/travis-backports -s focal -d bionic lcov
[02:31] <greg_> all im trying to do
[02:31] <wgrant> Ah. That will have automatically generated it, and you can probably override it with the DEBEMAIL environment variable
[02:31] <sarnold> then try -k $KEYID there
[02:32] <wgrant> But I'm not particularly familiar with Ubuntu's backportpackage tool
[02:33] <greg_> ok it did *something*
[02:33] <greg_> im not sure what
[02:35] <greg_> https://paste.debian.net/1132493/
[02:36] <greg_> I don't see anything in my ppa
[02:36] <greg_> is it building somewher?
[02:38] <wgrant> You'd normally receive an email within a minute or two.
[02:38] <wgrant> It's not on https://launchpad.net/~cheeseboy16/+archive/ubuntu/travis-backports so you probably have a rejection email
[02:38] <sarnold> wgrant: hmm I get the "Lost something?" page from https://launchpad.net/~seth-arnold/+archive/+builds?build_state=all&build_text=  -- linked from https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors
[02:39] <greg_> I have zero emails
[02:42] <greg_> any clue on what happened?
[02:45] <wgrant> sarnold: ah, because you don't have a PPA named "ppa" that old-style link doesn't work
[02:48] <wgrant> greg_: I'd need to check the upload processor's logs, but I'm currently afk.
[02:48] <wgrant> Are you sure you have no email?
[02:48] <greg_> yes
[02:48] <wgrant> Since it was signed properly there's very little that could go wrong and not generate an email
[02:48] <sarnold> I ran a very similar command and mine's building https://launchpad.net/~seth-arnold/+archive/ubuntu/doghouse/+packages
[02:49] <greg_> my latest email was the one confirming my gpg
[02:49] <greg_> nothing in spam
[02:50] <greg_> should i run the cmd again?
[02:51] <wgrant> It can't hurt
[02:52] <greg_> I'm still not seeing anything
[02:52] <sarnold>  sbuild-build-depends-lcov-dummy : Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
[02:52] <greg_> oh I got email now
[02:52] <sarnold> it looks like it'll take a bit more work to backport this package
[02:53] <greg_> so what do I do?
[02:53] <greg_> Unable to identify 'greg':<greg@greg-vm> in launchpad
[02:53] <greg_> Further error processing not possible because of a critical previous error.
[02:56] <greg_> the gpg key has<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so idk why its using my hostname
[02:58] <wgrant> Set DEBEMAIL. backportpackage expects that your system is set up for packaging already
[02:59] <wgrant> The key is just used for authentication. There's a separate email address in the changelog, which backportpackage must be automatically generating. That email address is used by default to choose the key, which is why you had to use -k
[02:59] <greg_> export DEBMAIL=MYEMAIL?
[02:59] <sarnold> that's easy enough to test but I suspect that's not it; my changelog has:  -- Seth Arnold <sarnold@millbarge>  Thu, 27 Feb 2020 02:45:57 +0000
[03:00] <greg_> what?
[03:00] <greg_> is that how i set it?
[03:00] <sarnold> no
[03:00] <greg_> then how
[03:00] <wgrant> Hopefully the backportpackage manpage says
[03:00] <wgrant> I'm not familiar with that tool
[03:01] <sarnold> hmm, so the first time I clicked on the openpgp key link on https://launchpad.net/~cheeseboy16 I got a "not found" error or something similar -- but now I'm getting a real key from https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?fingerprint=on&op=index&search=0x66257ED074E75DAC205D96050157CC879AAF4A82
[03:01] <sarnold> I wonder if it's just wroth yet another try without changing anything?
[03:01] <wgrant> No.
[03:01] <greg_> oh i was right
[03:02] <wgrant> Once you get a rejection email, it was properly signed
[03:02] <greg_> its just an env var
[03:02] <wgrant> Yes
[03:02] <sarnold> wgrant: ah cool, thanks
[03:09] <greg_> ok got it but how do I fix Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12) ?
[03:12] <greg_>  bionic-backports  has it I see
[03:14] <wgrant> On https://launchpad.net/~cheeseboy16/+archive/ubuntu/travis-backports you'll find an "Edit PPA dependencies" link, where you can enable backports
[03:16] <greg_> yes I saw that
[03:16] <greg_> i pushed again but nothing happened
[03:18] <wgrant> You can't re-upload the same version twice (unless it was never accepted in the first place). In this case you'll want to retry the build. Click the failed build link on https://launchpad.net/~cheeseboy16/+archive/ubuntu/travis-backports/+packages, and click the Retry link
[03:21] <greg_> i think it built
[03:22] <wgrant> It did!
[03:22] <sarnold> yay :)
[03:22] <wgrant> Will take a few minutes until it's available on PPA.launchpad.net; wait for the green flashing gear to turn into a tick
[03:37] <greg_> ok and the package is working on my ci.
[03:37] <greg_> that was huge pain
[04:32] <wgrant> sarnold: I've updated Packaging/UploadErrors to not assume you have a default PPA.
[04:32] <wgrant> Thanks for the report
[17:52] <sarnold> wgrant: nice, thanks :)
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+question/689032
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> One more post by Snooper. Same nonsense
[22:34] <cjwatson> I've suspended "Snooper" now
[22:46] <sarnold> thanks


[22:47] <zequence> Doing yet another mixdown on ardour which requires me to shut down pulseaudio in order to complete it.
[22:47] <zequence> One could hardly think one is living in the 2010's
[22:51] <zequence> It's actually a pretty bad problem.


[02:40] <saltlake2> Champs, I am really confused on how to add my VM nodes to the maas controller. Does anyone have a step by step guide on how to create VM using virsh and then provision it in maas controller ?
[02:41] <saltlake2> MarkBaker ?
[05:53] <saltlake> anyone up for helping me figure out why a VM does not leave the commisioning state in my maas
[09:30] <p_l> hi, I found some information that MaaS supports installing CentOS in version 1.7.0, is there any documentation on how to set it up (or where can I find it?)
[10:40] <kiko> p_l, blake_r would be the best person to help, but I do believe there is documentation
[19:39] <saltlake> experts, am trying to run this command sudo maas-import-pxe-files. It appears a new node tftps to the maas server and looks for files such as pxelinux.0 ..
[19:39] <saltlake> Howver that command needs a sources-file. Can somehelp help me by giving me their sources-file contents
[20:10] <blake_r> saltlake: what version of MAAS?
[20:14] <saltlake> blake_r: I have "  Installed: 1.7.0~beta8+bzr3272-0ubuntu1.2"
[20:21] <saltlake> blake_r: "
[20:21] <saltlake> any ideas ?
[20:22] <blake_r> saltlake: yes so your using a command from an older version
[20:22] <blake_r> saltlake: just visit the WebUI and go to the images page
[20:22] <blake_r> saltlake: you will be able to start the import there
[20:22] <saltlake> I did download a ubutnu image from the ui as well
[20:22] <blake_r> saltlake: then that is all you need
[20:23] <saltlake> However when I start a client node .. I see on the client nodes console: tftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/pxelinux.0 ... No such file or directory
[20:23] <blake_r> saltlake: did you configure the cluster interface?
[20:23] <saltlake> Yes the cluster interface looks connected
[20:24] <blake_r> saltlake: no did you go the cluster page and configure an interface to provide dhcp and dns?
[20:24] <saltlake> Do I have to add the ndoe manually on the UI or does it show up automatically
[20:24] <saltlake> blake_r: yes I did
[20:24] <blake_r> saltlake: okay and <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip address of the maas server?
[20:25] <saltlake> blake_r: yes that is so and I set the interface to manage DHCP and DNS and gave it a DHCP range from <IP_ADDRESS> -200
[20:25] <blake_r> saltlake: okay
[20:25] <blake_r> saltlake: check that the import completed successfully
[20:25] <blake_r> saltlake: see if there is any errors in /var/log/maas/pserv.log
[20:26] <saltlake> I just saw an error when I started the client VM
[20:26] <saltlake> blake_r: I started the client VM thus: virt-install --connect qemu:///system -n client1 -r 1024     --arch=x86_64 --pxe     --network=network:default,mac=AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:01     --vnc --accelerate     --disk=/var/lib/libvirt/images/client1,size=30
[20:26] <saltlake> blake_r: I see this: WARNING  The guest's network configuration does not support PXE
[20:26] <blake_r> saltlake: that is fine, its a lie
[20:27] <saltlake> blake_r: :-( oh
[20:27] <blake_r> saltlake: you need to check that pserv.log for me
[20:27] <blake_r> saltlake: you can just paste the whole thing if you want
[20:27] <blake_r> saltlake: pastebinit /var/log/maas/pserv.log
[20:28] <saltlake> blake_r:http://pastebin.com/HgREdVPi
[20:29] <blake_r> saltlake: that is only listening of internal interfaces
[20:29] <blake_r> saltlake: it should show it connected to an external interface
[20:29] <saltlake> is that not enough ?
[20:29] <blake_r> saltlake: does the server have an eth0?
[20:29] <saltlake> Hmm.. even if it has an image downloaded to it ?
[20:30] <saltlake> blake_r: the maas server has eth0 which is the cluster interface network <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:30] <saltlake> network
[20:31] <saltlake> the maas server is a VM
[20:31] <blake_r> saltlake: okay lets restart the clsuter service
[20:31] <saltlake> service maas restart ?
[20:31] <blake_r> saltlake: "sudo service maas-clusterd restart"
[20:31] <blake_r> saltlake: also I would recommend upgrading to the latest version that we have in stable,
[20:32] <blake_r> saltlake: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maas-maintainers/stable
[20:32] <blake_r> saltlake: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[20:32] <saltlake> blake_r: thanks for the tip.. will do .. do you recommend aborting this totally ?
[20:32] <blake_r> saltlake: aborting what?
[20:33] <saltlake> blake_r: aborting working with 1.7 and update
[20:33] <blake_r> saltlake: its just going to upgrade to 1.7.0 stable
[20:33] <blake_r> saltlake: the version you have is a beta
[20:33] <blake_r> saltlake: just small fixes no large changes
[20:33] <saltlake> blake_r: ok I want to wait.. this is the most progress I have made so want to make some more before I tear it down and restart
[20:34] <blake_r> saltlake: it can upgrade without a restart
[20:34] <saltlake> blake_r: Do i restart the VM
[20:34] <blake_r> saltlake: it will restart the services for you
[20:34] <blake_r> saltlake: no need to restart anything
[20:35] <saltlake> blake_r: ok I srestarted clusterd.  Now I see one image in the images section of the UI
[20:35] <saltlake> blake_r: the client1 boot window does not progress I think that is given up, do I try to add the node manually ?
[20:35] <saltlake> blake_r: By going on the UI->add node ?
[20:35] <blake_r> saltlake: no you still need the client to boot
[20:36] <saltlake> blake_r: so restart the client VM ?
[20:36] <blake_r> saltlake: yes restart the client vm to see if it pxe boots
[20:37] <saltlake> blake_r: It appears to be installing!!
[20:37] <blake_r> saltlake: awesome
[20:38] <blake_r> saltlake: it will not install yet, it will just enlist the node into maas
[20:38] <saltlake> blake_r: Muah!! Thank you brother!! So after a cluster interface config. . I shoudl restart the service.. !!
[20:38] <blake_r> saltlake: you will need to go to the newly added node in the maas ui and add the power parameters
[20:38] <blake_r> saltlake: no you dont need to do that, it will restart the dhcp service for you on save
[20:39] <blake_r> saltlake: it was just that for tftp service wasnt listing on an outbound interface, for some reason
[20:39] <blake_r> saltlake: could have been that maas-clusterd came online before eth0 was ready
[20:39] <saltlake> blake_r: the client rebooted by itself .. is that normal
[20:40] <blake_r> saltlake: since this is a vm, maas cannot setup the power parameters for you, you need to add that information
[20:40] <blake_r> saltlake: maas did not reboot the machine, virt-install did
[20:40] <blake_r> saltlake: you now should power the machine off
[20:40] <saltlake> blake_r: OK I will try that now and see if the gues will start back up
[20:40] <blake_r> saltlake: add the power parameters on the maas ui and then commission the node
[20:40] <blake_r> saltlake: once the node has commissioned you can then acquire and start the node
[20:41] <blake_r> saltlake: starting the node will install Ubuntu for you
[20:41] <blake_r> saltlake: you will then be able to ssh into your newly installed ubuntu machine
[20:41] <blake_r> saltlake: here is some information about using maas to control virtual machine nodes
[20:42] <blake_r> saltlake: http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/nodes.html#virtual-machine-nodes
[20:43] <saltlake> blake_r: The status changed to commissioning.. any ideas how long this takes ? I have been stuck at this for many days
[20:43] <saltlake> I mean in all the diff install tries i nthe last week
[20:43] <blake_r> saltlake: it should take at most 10 minutes
[20:43] <blake_r> saltlake: if its stuck there then something went wrong
[20:44] <saltlake> blake_r: But should I see something on the console of the client1 vm ?
[20:44] <saltlake> I see it stuck on "No bootable devices!!
[20:44] <blake_r> saltlake: is maas able to power the node on and off?
[20:44] <saltlake> blake_r: It did a power node on for sure
[20:44] <blake_r> saltlake: oh that is virt-install for you! it didnt make the first device pxe
[20:44] <blake_r> saltlake: you need to change the first boot device to be pxe
[20:45] <blake_r> saltlake: i bet its not even set to boot from pxe
[20:45] <saltlake> blake_r: It is actually
[20:45] <blake_r> saltlake: does it get an ip?
[20:46] <saltlake> blake_r: Its got IP <IP_ADDRESS> but the console window of the client1 vm does not mode. That said.. I just saw the xml file fir the client1 Vm.
[20:46] <saltlake> It has boot dev='hd'
[20:46] <saltlake> It should have it pxe as u said right !!
[20:47] <saltlake> :q!
[20:47] <blake_r> yeah "--pxe" with virt-install only means for the first boot
[20:47] <blake_r> so if you reboot it manually it will then commission
[20:47] <saltlake> blake_r: got it.. let me kill the VM and edit the xml and restart the vm in virsh
[20:48] <saltlake> blake_r: Can I PM u for a minute ?
[20:48] <blake_r> saltlake: sure
[20:58] <saltlake> blake_r: I added the boot order to include nwteork in the client1 virsh file. I restarted the node commissioning This time it does not an IP address and virt-viewer client1 shows "Waiting for guest domain to start"
[21:00] <saltlake> blake_r: Thanks a bunch!! The node finally moved from commissioning to "ready"
[21:01] <blake_r> saltlake: awesome glad to hear it!
[21:01] <blake_r> saltlake: no problem anytime
[21:01] <saltlake> blake_r: Thanks really!! You have no idea how frustrated I have been with the state of commissioning!!!!!
[21:01] <saltlake> Thank you!!
[21:02] <blake_r> saltlake: haha, your welcome!