[05:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, setup output plugin to alsa
[05:50] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope. doesn't help.
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try different output plugin settings and see if any of them work
[05:51] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok. don't think it will help though. but will try.
[05:51] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:51] <hybrid_2> I want to set VNC up on my account that's currently logged in on the console
[05:51] <hybrid_2> (remotely)
[05:52] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: hey, would this have anything to do with anything? A lot of times the crash handler thing says "artsd" crashes. i dunno what that is
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> artsd is the kde sound daemon iirc
[05:53] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: what does iirc mean?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, it actually crashes when you try to play mp3's?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> iirc = if i remember correctly
[05:54] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: no, when I startup my computer I think the artsd comes up. Now, when I play a mp3, the program locks up and I have to terminate it.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try disabling the kde system sounds, should be under system settings, sounds
[05:55] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: and its in every progrogram
[05:55] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, the sound daemon may be causing a conflict
[05:56] <apus> how do I make it so that when the system boots it runs a command
[05:57] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: wont unchecking the "enable the sound system" disable all sound?
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, no, just the kde system sounds, the actual sound module is loaded at kernel level
[05:57] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, media player programs access that
[05:58] <dthacker> HymnToLife:
[05:58] <dthacker> argh
[05:58] <dthacker> hybrid_2: do you have a question?
[05:59] <surgy> can someone help me install my nvidia video card driver on feisty, i read what ubotu had to say, but i cant seam to figure out the feisty instructions, will someone help me please?
[05:59] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: nope.
[05:59] <Toyd> hitmanWilly, :)
[06:00] <dthacker> apus: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> Toyd, ?
[06:00] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: though its doing better. the progress bar moves a bit, stops, then jumps up a few seconds, but no sound.
[06:00] <surgy> hitmanWilly: hi
[06:00] <hybrid_2> dthacker: yes, I am logged into a a PC through console at home, VNC is setup but not configured for that user.. I want to be able to connect to that user and view that console session
[06:01] <ses1959_> jermain found good web site about mounting usb hard drive
[06:01] <ses1959_> http://www.smorgasbord.net/book/export/html/195
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, well, im not sure what the issue is then
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> surgy: hello
[06:01] <ses1959_> i got my hd to mount but have a permission problem now
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, sounds like an alsa problem maybe
[06:02] <dthacker> hybrid_2: having never played with VNC, I would imagine you sudo to root on the target machine, configure the user you wish to view, and then back out an connect to that user
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> !alsa
[06:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:02] <surgy> hitmanWilly: mind helping me again brother?
[06:02] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: i usually use oss
[06:02] <ses1959_> it is now showing on media list but to click it I do not have permission
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, i don't think feisty has actuall oss, i belive its emulated thru alsa
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> surgy: whats up
[06:03] <ses1959_> i used the chmod 777 on the file but still have a permission error
[06:03] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ah, ok, it says there ensure "arts" is running? and artsd keeps crashing, so I assume its related/
[06:03] <surgy> hitmanWilly: "<surgy> can someone help me install my nvidia video card driver on feisty, i read what ubotu had to say, but i cant seam to figure out the feisty instructions, will someone help me please?"
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, arts was crashing? sorry, missed that, yeah, that's the problem right there
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy: sorry missed it
[06:04] <ses1959_> can i run a chmod on sdb1 that is the drive that is now mounted?
[06:04] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: ok, when I click on  "test sound" I don't hear anything
[06:04] <surgy> hitmanWilly: np can you assist me?
[06:04] <jtt> ses1959_, yes you can
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy, use nvidia on feisty, so yes :)
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> surgy, what exactly is the issue?
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> surgy, or where in the install are you having problems?
[06:05] <surgy> hitmanWilly: i cant find those entrys in my kmenu
[06:05] <apus> how do I add a script to execute when i login
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> surgy, the best way to do it is from the cmd line
[06:06] <dthacker> apus: did you see the link I sent you?
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: look at the tutorial at the feisty instructions, i cannot seam to find those entrys in my kmenu
[06:06] <apus> dthacker I got disconnected
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: the old way from edgy then?
[06:06] <_ron> Hello, How can I change a "always do this action" selection?
[06:06] <dthacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> surgy, should still work
[06:06] <dthacker> apus:^^^^^^
[06:06] <mrdlouisd> is gzip as reliable as rar in compression?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> surgy, i didn't even know there was a special way to do it for feisty
[06:06] <surgy> hitmanWilly: its the "should" that scares me, you know what it took for me to get feisty up.
[06:06] <Scott_> quick question to the group - how do you upgrade from dapper straight to feisty? ...somewhere i wasnt paying attention when edgy came out apparently...
[06:07] <surgy> hitmanWilly: you should check the tut
[06:07] <dthacker> apus: halfway down the page it discusses adding bootup scripts
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> surgy, i used the cmd line w/ no problems
[06:07] <surgy> !nvidia | hitmanWilly
[06:07] <ubotu> hitmanWilly: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ the only way to do that is to reinstall if the root is on a seperate partition
[06:07] <mrdlouisd> !cmds
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cmds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <mrdlouisd> !list
[06:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ otherwise, you are going to have to update to edgy, then feisty.
[06:07] <Scott_> thanks _ron
[06:07] <_ron> scott_ no problem :)
[06:08] <_ron> Can anyone help me with my default action problem?
[06:08] <Scott_> kinda thought that would be the route, but thats ok... Im totally new to linux (ok off and on) and kubuntu just locked it in for me...
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> surgy, ok, do NOT use that automated tool, all it does is try to pick the right driver for your card
[06:08] <Scott_> well, and Vista locked in it for me too... ;)
[06:08] <_ron> scott_ it is not that bad, I actually just did it myself from breezy to feisty (for my father in law)
[06:08] <dsmith_> !ubotu
[06:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:09] <_ron> scott_ vista... lol
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> surgy, the instructions were written for gnome anyway
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: ahhh, thank you
[06:09] <Alonea> !arts
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <dthacker> _ron: is this on a menu?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> !artsd
[06:09] <theshadow> Alright, in Feisty I accidently removed my task back and now I don't know how to get it back all I can find is an "External Task Bar" can anyone give me a hand?
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: i forgot that pos os still exsisted
[06:09] <apus> dthacker got it
[06:09] <dsmith_> !vista
[06:09] <_ron> dthacker: is what on a menu?
[06:09] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[06:09] <surgy> hitmanWilly: well pos windows manager anyways
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:09] <apus> can someone explain chmod 777 doesn't that corespond to rwr-rwx-rwx
[06:10] <Scott_> badvista.org lol...have to see this...
[06:10] <dthacker> _ron: default action?
[06:10] <flaccid> chmod is read, write and execute for all users -rwxrwxrwx
[06:10] <_ron> dthacker: OH lol... I accidentally selected the wrong action when I plug in a camera, and I want to change it now. Any ideas?
[06:10] <apus> so, isn't that unsafe?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> surgy: what model card are you running, or at least what driver version did you use on edgy?
[06:10] <surgy> hitmanWilly: ok i got the I386 version of feisty, that means i need linux-restricted-module-386 correct?
[06:11] <surgy> hitmanWilly: glx
[06:11] <flaccid> apus: it is unsafe for some files
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> surgy, just apt-get install nvidia-glx and it will get all the neccessary depends
[06:11] <flaccid> obviously
[06:11] <flaccid> but totally safe if that was the intention. eg. to share a file to all users
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> ie restricted modules etc
[06:12] <apus> flaccid, but if its a script run at boot, 777 means anyone could edit it
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> surgy or should anyway
[06:12] <dthacker> _ron: hmmm, somewhere in systems settings, but my laptop is down atm and I'm stuck on a SuSE box.
[06:12] <surgy> hitmanWilly: no it wont, or at least it didnt last time, i struggled for weeks on end with crashing xserver till i figured out i didnt have the correct module
[06:12] <dsmith_> Mark Shuttleworth & Ubuntu, for those that want to check this out...  Brief interview with Mark Shuttleworth, founder of the Ubuntu Foundation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke-kel9zOFo
[06:12] <apus> its root-user-usergroup right?
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: thats correct. 777 anyone can write to it
[06:12] <apus> to thats unsafe if anyone can edit a file that is executed at boot
[06:12] <dthacker> _ron: hang out for 5 min while I boot?
[06:12] <flaccid> ower|group|world
[06:12] <_ron> dthacker: sure, thanks!
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: yes
[06:12] <surgy> hitmanWilly: but then again i have been plagued by the strangest of problems
[06:12] <flaccid> apus: google unix permissions and start learning.
[06:13] <_ron> dthacker: default applications maybe/
[06:13] <surgy> brb
[06:13] <apus> well, if I want something to execute at startup, and I link the script in the crontab, what permissions should the script have
[06:13] <Alonea> does anyone know anything about artsd crashing on startup after fiesty upgrade? I am unable to play music without programs locking up.
[06:13] <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:14] <_ron> what is the command to change my default browser in konsole?
[06:14] <hitmanWilly> surgy, ok, its linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:14] <apus> its just to run a command at start up
[06:16] <hybrid_2> dthacker: yes, I am logged into a a PC through console at home, VNC is setup but not configured for that user.. I want to be able to connect to that user and view that console session
[06:16] <hybrid_2> can someone assist?
[06:16] <hybrid_2> Hi guys, can someone please assist.. i Have got VNC working on this machine, done it all remotely..
[06:17] <AbortD> when u upgrade in terminal it doesnt auto reboot?
[06:17] <MuJ> it's not windows you know
[06:17] <_ron> Can anyone give me the terminal command to select the default web browser?
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> AbortD, no, i don't think so, but the only time you really need to is after a kernel upgrade
[06:18] <flaccid> apus: like i said: [14:13]  <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> everything else is handled on the fly
[06:19] <apus> flaccid: I told you what it was, its a script to run a command
[06:19] <dthacker> _ron: don't see a setting to change, still digging
[06:20] <jtt> apus he is asking what command?
[06:20] <_ron> dthacker: thanks
[06:20] <MuJ> _ron: for firefox you'd do: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[06:20] <apus> what does it matteR? if its 777 anyone could change it to anything they wanted
[06:21] <apus> thats why its unsafe
[06:21] <dthacker> _ron: oh joy, I found google ref on how to do it in gnome.....
[06:21] <jtt> apus that is why he asked?
[06:21] <flaccid> apus: like i said: [14:13]  <flaccid> apus: that would depend on what the script is and what it is for
[06:21] <apus> what?
[06:21] <flaccid> it would help i you told me what sort of command it is
[06:22] <apus> why does the command matter? its automatically executed at start, so if its 777 any user could change it
[06:22] <apus> and then when its executed it could mess things up
[06:22] <flaccid> its about access
[06:22] <flaccid> and ownership
[06:22] <_ron> Muj: I found it, but thank you so much.
[06:22] <flaccid> who needs access to it
[06:22] <flaccid> if anyone etc.
[06:22] <flaccid> you really should learn before you make assumptions..
[06:23] <apus> crontab needs access
[06:23] <flaccid> wtf is it for apus
[06:23] <hybrid_2> can someone tell me how I can access my console session via VNC? I am not at the console, but have SSH access.
[06:23] <flaccid> we don't even know who should own the file because you wan't say what it is for
[06:23] <apus> jesus, the command it "imwheel"
[06:23] <apus> and its linked to by crontab
[06:23] <dthacker> _ron: Look at KDE components under System Settings
[06:23] <apus> so it starts at boot
[06:24] <apus> I just need to know what chmod level it needs to be so when the system boots, it will execute
[06:24] <flaccid> what is imwheel, what does it do and what does it need access to ?
[06:24] <flaccid> apus: you really don't understand do you
[06:24] <apus> flaccid, quit treating me like an idiot
[06:24] <flaccid> i will until you answer the question i need to know
[06:24] <apus> imwheel is a command, that when I typed in console, with no sudo or anything, does what its supsose to do
[06:24] <dthacker> _ron: that will get you default apps, still looking for camera question
[06:24] <flaccid> otherwise i cannot answer your question
[06:24] <apus> all im trying to do it make it so the command runs each boot
[06:24] <flaccid> apus: and what does the command actually do
[06:24] <apus> so I made a script like somsone said, and linked to it with crontab
[06:25] <apus> its a program
[06:25] <apus> google it
[06:25] <flaccid> no im asking you
[06:25] <apus> the command doens't  need access
[06:25] <apus> why?
[06:25] <flaccid> im sick of this
[06:25] <apus> do you even know my question flaccid?
[06:25] <Alonea> anyone know how to access the crash handler thing? does it have a history/log of previous crashes?
[06:25] <apus> your sick of this? you keep calling me an idiot
[06:25] <flaccid> i do but your're an idiot and won't answer my question, so i can't really help
[06:26] <apus> the likes of you dont need to be here, and if you know my question, repeat it for me
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> apus, does imwheel need access to the hdd, cause the hdd is mounted ro until a certain point in the boot process
[06:26] <apus> hitmanwilly, I dont know, I dont know the interworkings of the program
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> apus, that may be the problem right there
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> How can I find Real Player in the repositories?
[06:27] <apus> look, an hour ago I asked someon "how do I make a command execute each login
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> !real player
[06:27] <jtt> hitmanWilly, looks like imwheel starts after x is running
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <apus> he said, make a script, and link to it with crontab
[06:27] <Kevlar_Soul> !realplayer
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> .xinitrc then ?
[06:27] <flaccid> apus: its pretty easy. answer what the program does and we can advise suitable permissions.
[06:27] <apus> so I did, and now im asking what chmod level it needs, because in tuts people keep chmoding files 777 but that seems stupid and unsafe
[06:28] <jtt> hitmanWilly, dont know just answering your query as to when it needs access etc.
[06:28] <flaccid> apus: you did not say what imwheel actually does
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> jtt, ok cool
[06:28] <apus> flaccid, its a very common program, google it, apparently I dont know enough
[06:28] <apus> its a mouse thing
[06:28] <apus> my questio has nothing to do with that
[06:28] <flaccid> i don't want to google it, i'm asking you. if you want your answer, then you'll need to answer mine
[06:28] <jtt> jtt  imwheel   Program to support non-standard buttons on new mice.
[06:28] <apus> my question, is what level does an executable need to be for crontab to be able to execute it
[06:28] <flaccid> it has everything to do with that.
[06:29] <flaccid> it needs only +x and read to that user.
[06:29] <apus> what user?
[06:29] <flaccid> the user that is calling the binary
[06:29] <apus> no user!?
[06:29] <apus> CRONTAB OMG
[06:29] <flaccid> you havnt even told me which user is running it
[06:30] <apus> ive said that over and over
[06:30] <flaccid> don't shout!
[06:30] <flaccid> you can get crontab to go under any user...
[06:30] <apus> the automatic at boot sort of thing
[06:31] <flaccid> like i said it can be run under any user, not just cron
[06:31] <apus> cron?
[06:31] <apus> alright flaccid, lets start over
[06:32] <apus> as it stands, once I get into KDE I need to run "imwheel" from terminal
[06:32] <apus> I dont want to do that, I want it automatic, what should I do?
[06:32] <flaccid> what is imwheel and what access does it require?
[06:32] <Kevlar_Soul> How does one install a .bin file?
[06:32] <flaccid> ok
[06:32] <flaccid> !autostart
[06:32] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart.   Please file a doc bug on Launchpad
[06:36] <apus> flaccid: I want you to admit you completely misunderstood my question, then called me an idiot when I said the command didn't matter, you give any file 777 (as far as I understand) and it doesn't matter what is in it because anyone can make it anything they want
[06:36] <flaccid> running imwheel on cron on boot won't work because its an X program. so it was imporant that i asked you those questions!!!
[06:36] <jtt> apus please drop it
[06:36] <flaccid> apus: i'll admit that you are wrong. now leave me the fuck alone.
[06:36] <apus> jtt: hes the one calling people trying to convert to kubuntu an idiot
[06:36] <kalorin> apus, in all fairness, it's hard as hell to follow things on this channel with 8 or 10 conversations going on at a time
[06:37] <_ron> dthacker How do I do that/
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, i will agree to that
[06:37] <apus> well can at least someone reafirm that giving  a file 777 is unsafe, regardless of whats in it?
[06:37] <apus> or is that wrong?
[06:37] <jtt> apus, i am not taking sides, i am just asking both to stop
[06:37] <kalorin> he's a bit crusty, but he's here trying to help folks for nothing
[06:37] <kalorin> it's not worth it
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> apus, not necessarily, but usually, yes
[06:37] <jtt> apus, yes it is quite unsafe
[06:38] <flaccid> apus:  things are not black and white
[06:38] <kalorin> temp space is generally set so that anyone can write to it
[06:38] <kalorin> symlinks obviously
[06:38] <kalorin> there's several things that get 777 and that's just how it is
[06:38] <apus> so if you go read what I said at 23:21 you will see I said that exact thing, and he immediately started calling me an idiot, saying I dind't understand permissions
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> for example, a jpeg could be set to that more or less safely
[06:39] <flaccid> for example you might wanna give 777 on a public ftp or shared folder. but you wont want to give 777 to a process that only requires 755
[06:39] <kalorin> text files
[06:39] <kalorin> or a shell script that gets called by another user
[06:39] <kalorin> that's inviting trouble
[06:39] <apus> kalorin: so what stops them from making it a script file and executing it?
[06:39] <flaccid> apus: stfu and move on already.
[06:39] <dthacker> _ron: log into launchpad (may need to set up account), hit the big bug icon, and then tell them what you want to do, and that you could not locate docs for it in kubuntu docs
[06:39] <apus> flaccid: your just angry im right
[06:39] <kalorin> from making a jpg a shell script?
[06:39] <apus> kalorin a text script
[06:39] <abortd> i updated to feisty and now i cant load it under the new kernel
[06:39] <apus> kalorin text file*
[06:39] <abortd> i have to use the one in edgy
[06:40] <abortd> can someone help me?
[06:40] <flaccid> apus: no i believe in progress
[06:40] <kalorin> doesn't matter if they do, what matters is who runs it
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, true on that...actually never thought about it
[06:40] <jtt> abortd, boot in recovery mode see where it stops
[06:40] <Kevlar_Soul> how do I list folders in terminal?
[06:40] <vbgunz> Kevlar_Soul: ls
[06:40] <abortd> see where it stops?
[06:40] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: ls
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ls
[06:40] <kalorin> really it's all about who executes the thing, not the permissions on it
[06:40] <Kevlar_Soul> I type ls I get nothing
[06:40] <abortd> i try to boot and it doesnt even load
[06:40] <apus> obviously they cant script commands that need sudo, but they could execute a script from a text file
[06:40] <abortd> the bar stays at 1%
[06:41] <Kevlar_Soul> ahhh because Im in root
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, what directory are you in ?
[06:41] <Kevlar_Soul> sorry
[06:41] <kalorin> apus, why couldn't they?
[06:41] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: sudo ls -l
[06:41] <apus> they would need the password?
[06:41] <jtt> abortd, you mean from the grub menu it wont even start
[06:41] <abortd> yeah
[06:41] <abortd> but .17 will
[06:41] <abortd> .20 wont
[06:41] <kalorin> I could script up a nice command to format your drive or wget a keylogger down and install and start it
[06:41] <Phalure> in feisty's kde3.5.6's kcontrol, my "use antialiasing for fonts" checkbox has three states instead of just two! checked, unchecked, and greyed out check. what does the third state mean? (greyed out check)
[06:41] <apus> so that means any 777 is unsafe
[06:41] <abortd> from the ubuntu sign
[06:41] <abortd> it wont start
[06:41] <kalorin> all that would take root, and all that is scriptable, it just wouldn't work unless someone with root priviledges did it
[06:42] <jtt> abortd, ok get to grub menu, highlight recover for that kernel and hit ENTER
[06:42] <kalorin> apus, i would say it is for a file
[06:42] <jtt> abortd, what happens
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, the keylogger maybe, but the drive reformat would need root permissions
[06:42] <flaccid> apus: 777 is totally safe if you want to give full access to everyone.
[06:42] <Eternalz> Question for pro, i have no sound in kubuntu and i dont know where the problem is, could anyone help me :/
[06:42] <abortd> alright after these updates are done
[06:42] <abortd> im on the pc i will have to leave and come back
[06:42] <apus> what prevents them from making a script and executing it
[06:42] <kalorin> but I would also say that there are some places you want it like symlinks and directories for public access
[06:42] <apus> there are some commands that dont need root access that I dont want people running on my system
[06:42] <kalorin> do an ls -al on /tmp for instance
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, and if you're sudoing a .jpg, something is seriously wrong with you :)
[06:42] <kalorin> k
[06:42] <dthacker> ubotu: !sound
[06:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <kalorin> so change them to where root owns them and root is the only one that can execute them
[06:43] <Eternalz> Question for pro, i have no sound in kubuntu and i dont know where the problem is, could anyone help me :/
[06:43] <kalorin> and remove the users from the sudoers list
[06:43] <apus> anyways
[06:43] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: I could format your drive with a command if you ran it with sudo or were root
[06:43] <dthacker> ubotu: ! sound | Eternalz
[06:43] <ubotu> Eternalz: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:43] <apus> !autostart
[06:43] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:43] <kalorin> I'll even occasionally sudo su -
[06:43] <kalorin> and be root
[06:43] <Kevlar_Soul> Okay I found the Bin file in terminal
[06:43] <kalorin> BECAUSE I CAN!
[06:43] <kalorin> :)
[06:43] <Kevlar_Soul> now I just type realplayer10gold.bin
[06:44] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[06:44] <Cable86> that bot is crazy, i dont get how it just got that
[06:44] <dthacker> Kevlar_Soul: ./first
[06:44] <kalorin> no type ./<name of file>
[06:44] <dthacker> ./your_command.bin
[06:44] <kalorin> cause it's unlikely that file is in your path or set executable
[06:44] <dthacker> what kalorin said ^^^^^
[06:44] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, but like i said, one wouldn't give root access to a jpg or simple text file, unless they had no idea what they were doing or were on crack
[06:44] <kalorin> ( I'm not all fun and games, sometimes I know something )
[06:45] <dthacker> :)
[06:45] <apus> so how come a link to a command that takes almost no time to run, sits there for 10 seconds starting it
[06:45] <kalorin> hitmanWilly: sure, I'd agree with that, but there are a LOT of crack addicts
[06:45] <kalorin> :)
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[06:45] <kalorin> apus, depends what it's doing
[06:45] <underdog5004> which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> they use windows tho
[06:45] <kalorin> could it be starting a JVM?
[06:45] <aktep> hi all. anybody know how to i must install ATI Radeon x600 driver on feisty kubuntu? I try some FAQs and have no result. Default driver not work
[06:46] <apus> I just made a link to imwheel
[06:46] <kalorin> has to allocate memory, set up the virtual machine, do all the security stuff, then get around to loading dependency classes and then start your program
[06:46] <apus> and the way it does it as of now is unacceptable
[06:46] <flaccid> apus: do you want help with that?
[06:46] <kalorin> what's imwheel?
[06:46] <kalorin> eh?
[06:46] <kalorin> symlinks are always 777
[06:46] <kalorin> nothing wrong with that
[06:46] <apus> flaccid: can you be civil? or is ignorance too much for you
[06:46] <Alonea> ok, artsd crashes on startup and so far this is the error reports I have been able to find. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17165/  &  http://www.pastebin.ca/453714
[06:46] <apus> imwheel is a little program that lets multi button mouse work
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: i am civil. im also not ignorant which is why i know the answers.
[06:47] <kalorin> how many multi buttons?
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> malum@Kevlar:~/Desktop$ ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: Permission denied
[06:47] <apus> flaccid: but can you tollerate those that are ignorant?
[06:47] <kalorin> I have left, right, wheel in the middle that's a button too
[06:47] <Jack131> how do i search for a running process in console?
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Permission Denied?
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: some, but not you.
[06:47] <apus> kalorin: I have 5 other buttons thats why I use it
[06:47] <underdog5004> Jack131, top | grep process-name
[06:47] <kalorin> Kevlar_Soul: sudo bash ./RealLame10Copper.bin
[06:47] <Jack131> thx
[06:47] <apus> flaccid: then no
[06:47] <flaccid> apus: i'll help you because i'm a nice guy. you need to go to advanced and run in terminal if its a cli binary.
[06:47] <kalorin> ( I hate real)
[06:47] <Kevlar_Soul> kalorin:  lol thanks
[06:48] <Kevlar_Soul> Everything else wont play real media
[06:48] <flaccid> apus: too late apus, you friggen tool
[06:48] <kalorin> apus, cool, I have one of those at work I'm going to want to use next week :)
[06:48] <underdog5004> which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> !find artsd
[06:48] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.8-artsd
[06:48] <apus> kalorin: you will need to modify your xorg file and stuff hang on Ill get a link
[06:48] <Jack131> underdog5006 that just make the cursor move down to a blank area, like its not doing anythign
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, try reinstalling gstreamer0.8-artsd
[06:49] <underdog5004> Jack131, which process are you looking for?
[06:49] <Kevlar_Soul> :~/Desktop$ sudo bash ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[06:49] <Kevlar_Soul> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:49] <kalorin> apus, email it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:49] <kalorin> :)
[06:49] <kalorin> ( I'm too tired to remember or bother to sort out where it goes and stuff )
[06:50] <Jack131> underdog5004, adept manager
[06:50] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: its not even installed. no gstream is installed.
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, ok, the bot search dumped a lame result then
[06:50] <underdog5004> Jack131, try searching for adept, apt, or adept-manager
[06:51] <jtt> 777 is going to bed, i hope i have sleep permissions,  nite all be nice!
[06:51] <kalorin> kewel thanks
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, but the artsd daemon might be corrupted somehow
[06:51] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: hmm, I can install it and see what happens
[06:51] <walla> could anyone give my a hand with getting my sansa player to mount?
[06:52] <Rictoo> I see all these packages that mention "X window root"
[06:52] <Rictoo> What's that mean?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, thats for non gnome/kde wms (ie blackbox) usually
[06:53] <Rictoo> hmm
[06:53] <Rictoo> does that mean like Terminal (Konsole)? :S
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, no
[06:53] <Rictoo> pests such as roaches hide under your X windows (xroach clone)
[06:53] <Rictoo> Like the classic program xroach, this program makes pests appear in your X window root who then quickly scramble to hide beneath your windows.
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, they may still work in it tho
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, that just means they run in any x environment, more or less
[06:55] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: guess what! Installing that gstreamer thing worked!
[06:55] <Jack131> is there a task manager in kubuntu?
[06:55] <Jack131> like ctrl/alt/del
[06:56] <flaccid> !info ksysguard
[06:56] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 (feisty), package size 508 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[06:56] <flaccid> usually ctrl + escape
[06:56] <Jack131>  thx
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, wow...that may have been the issue right there, ie not available
[06:56] <flaccid> np
[06:56] <underdog5004> Which method should I use to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to feisty?
[06:56] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: that is so screwy...
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> underdog5004, i usually reccomend backup then clean install
[06:56] <kalorin> underdog5004: use the FM method... friggin Magic! :)
[06:57] <kalorin> no idea
[06:57] <underdog5004> ah, thank you, hitmanWilly
[06:57] <kalorin> I'm staying with 6.10 for a while
[06:57] <underdog5004> kalorin, why?
[06:57] <Rictoo> I'm bored, what's a good game I can apt-get?
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, or it may just have reconfigure some arts settings for you, not really too good with sound stuff
[06:57] <underdog5004> Rictoo, sudo apt-get install supertux
[06:57] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: thats not an upgrade.
[06:57] <Jack131> wtf
[06:57] <Alonea> hitmanWilly: well, as long as it works, I am happy.
[06:57] <Jack131> ive checked thru the process, there is no adept running
[06:57] <Jack131> yet automatix claims it is and i ned to close it
[06:58] <underdog5004> Jack131, sudo apt-get udate
[06:58] <underdog5004> Jack131, sudo apt-get update
[06:58] <flaccid> !upgrade
[06:58] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:58] <underdog5004> it should say that there is a lock file...
[06:58] <underdog5004> if you are sure you don't have anything running, rm /path/to/lock/file
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> Alonea, im just trying to figure out WHY it worked, sorry :)
[06:59] <flaccid> !kubuntu-upgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <abortd> !ntp
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <flaccid> !find upgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> Found: unattended-upgrades, update-notifier, upgrade-system
[06:59] <flaccid> hmm
[06:59] <abortd> whats ntp.conf?
[06:59] <flaccid> !info ntp
[06:59] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 319 kB, installed size 856 kB
[06:59] <flaccid> network time protocol configuration, abortd
[06:59] <Kevlar_Soul> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: cannot execute binary file
[06:59] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[06:59] <abortd> jshould i let adept update it?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, sudo it
[07:00] <flaccid> abortd: no
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> :~/Desktop$ sudo bash ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> I did that
[07:00] <bill_k> eeeeew realplayer
[07:00] <Kevlar_Soul> sudo bash
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, actually chmod +x the file then run it
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ie sudo chmod +x <name of bin file>
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then just run it by itself ie sudo ./<name of bin file>
[07:02] <Kevlar_Soul> Nice
[07:02] <Jack131> underdog5004, the only error i gget is a 503 on one of the sources
[07:02] <mcanedo> hi anyone of fasty knows when 3v1n0 repos will be available?????
[07:02] <underdog5004> Jack131, weird...I don't know then, sorry
[07:02] <kalorin> I bash things cause I don't care if they're executeable
[07:02] <Kevlar_Soul>  You must specify the full pathname of the directory and have write privileges to the chosen directory.
[07:02] <kalorin> i wrote an entire automation framework that runs around informatica at work that we use, I make everyone bash all the commands
[07:02] <Jack131> :\
[07:02] <kalorin> and I named them cutesy names like brain.sh and skull.sh
[07:03] <kalorin> skull of course being a wrapper script for the brain script
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> Which Directory Should I Chose?
[07:03] <kalorin> both of which you bash :)
[07:03] <kalorin> keeps me entertained
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, where did you download this too, your home folder
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> My desktop
[07:03] <flaccid> time for lunch
[07:03] <Kevlar_Soul> Directory:  [/home/malum/Desktop/RealPlayer] :
[07:03] <flaccid> bbl
[07:03] <kalorin> see ya
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, right click it, go to permissions, click allow execute file as a program
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, that will chmod it
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then run it as discussed before
[07:04] <Kevlar_Soul> okay and it will automatically choose a directory?
[07:05] <kalorin> yeah it's just likely not an shell script
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, run it as sudo, and yes, it SHOULD put everything in the right places
[07:05] <kalorin> never can tell with those .bin files
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> How do I cancel the installation
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> Its asking me for the directory now
[07:05] <Kevlar_Soul> TO restart
[07:05] <kalorin> the ati drivers for instance are in fact a shell script wtih an embedded .tar file in them
[07:06] <kalorin> kind of neat
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, try ctrl-c to cancel
[07:06] <tmbg> guess not
[07:06] <kalorin> kevlar, close the window
[07:06] <kalorin> tmgb?
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> kalorin, i think the nvidia ones are the same way
[07:06] <Kevlar_Soul> okay
[07:06] <kalorin> I think that's kind of cool
[07:07] <kalorin> I'd have not thought to wrap a tar with a shell script
[07:07] <kalorin> kind of cool
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> well, it confused me to no end until i realized what was going on
[07:07] <Kevlar_Soul> STILL asking for a directory
[07:07] <calcmandan> Running 6.06.2, considering changing the repos to reflect 7.04 and doing a dist-upgrade.  Is this suggested or shall I do a data backup and do a complete reinstallation?
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, then pick one, i would reccomend somewhere in your home folder
[07:08] <Cable86> calcmandan: you should upgrade to 6.10 first, then 7.04
[07:08] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  okay, thanks for your help.
[07:08] <calcmandan> Cable86: ugh.
[07:08] <dhorn> Anyone know why I can't apply a .diff file unless I do a dry run?
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, if you ran it as sudo, it should put a link in /usr/local/bin or some such place for the program executable
[07:09] <Mad> calcmandan: or just run a clean install, someone in here earlier tried that and their system wouldn't boot
[07:09] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  /home/usr ?
[07:09] <Cable86> calcmandan: you shouldnt skip releases in upgrading...so, update to 6.10 and make sure that it is completely up to date, then upgrade to 7.04 from there
[07:09] <Cable86> !upgrade
[07:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:09] <abortd> i just upgraded and tried to use sudo and i get this now
[07:09] <abortd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:09] <abortd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, did it give a suggested directory?
[07:09] <Kevlar_Soul> nope only the one that it is in....
[07:09] <abortd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:09] <Rictoo> abortd: Type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, id say something like ~/realplayer
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> /home/realplayer ?
[07:10] <abortd> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:10] <abortd> oops
[07:10] <calcmandan> Cable86: Well, I didn't upgrade to Edgy because the devs said it wasn't stable enough for a production box. I have a cd and booted it live. With the exception of removing the network software to get it online, it was rather smooth.
[07:10] <Rictoo> lol
[07:10] <abortd> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ~ is a shortcut to the current users home directory
[07:10] <Mad> has anyone here expiremented with putting vmware server on feisty, i hear it takes an additional patch
[07:10] <dhorn> Anyone know why I can't apply a .diff file unless I do a dry run?
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  so I can type "~/realplayer
[07:10] <Kevlar_Soul> "
[07:10] <Rictoo> abortd: Check ksysguard
[07:10] <Rictoo> is a package manager running?
[07:10] <calcmandan> Cable86: though, I do have a few issues with software starting up slowly that may be cleared up with a fresh installation. Though, it may be fixed up with an upgrade too. Thanks for your advice.
[07:10] <abortd> im not in k :P
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, yes, that'll put it in your home folder
[07:11] <Rictoo> -.-'
[07:11] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you.
[07:11] <abortd> haha
[07:11] <abortd> im just banned from the other chan
[07:11] <Cable86> calcmandan: well, if youre having slowness problems, i might suggest a fresh install as well
[07:11] <Rictoo> LOL
[07:11] <abortd> so i kinda get help in here
[07:11] <Rictoo> ??
[07:11] <Rictoo> Well find the process manager in gnome
[07:11] <Mad> calcmandan: you can never go wrong with a fresh install if you have everything you need to get it back working
[07:11] <Rictoo> and check if some package manager is running
[07:11] <Cable86> calcmandan: there are big changes from dapper>feisty, so a fresh install might indeed be thee best way to go
[07:12] <calcmandan> Cable86: yeah, i'm aware of the huge changes.
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, plus you don't have to install edgy first that way
[07:12] <mardi> anyone here familiar with the ktorrent plugin schedulerplugin?
[07:12] <apus> !alsa
[07:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:12] <calcmandan> Cable86: i may just stick with 6.06 and await a release with kde4.
[07:12] <Kevlar_Soul> prefix for symbolic users?
[07:13] <Cable86> calcmandan: thats a plausible route as well..kde4 sounds like it will be amazing
[07:13] <Mad> calcmandan: if this is a production box, you better make sure you have known compatible hardware with feisty, several people have had troubles with it
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, ?
[07:13] <Kevlar_Soul> prefix for symbolix links??
[07:13] <Kevlar_Soul> sorry its asking for a prefix for symbolic links
[07:13] <calcmandan> Cable86: everything I've read and seen about kde4 has me excited.
[07:13] <Rictoo> Will KDE4 look different than KDE3?
[07:13] <Cable86> have they mapped out a release schedule or date for kde4?
[07:14] <apus> what does ctrl alt backspace reset? if Im messing with a sound config file will that suffice to fully restart it
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, id say leave it blank
[07:14] <calcmandan> Mad: yeah, thanks for the advice. I did run the live cd and played around with it. I had an issue getting wireless to work, but resolved it easily.
[07:14] <Cable86> Rictoo: kde4 looks to be almost a complete revamp of kde
[07:14] <calcmandan> Cable86: it is.
[07:14] <Rictoo> COOL
[07:14] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you, right answer
[07:14] <Rictoo> AWESOME
[07:14] <Rictoo> I NEED PICS
[07:14] <Rictoo> lol
[07:14] <calcmandan> http://dot.kde.org/1177286088/
[07:15] <calcmandan> many of the kde programs had to be rewritten too
[07:15] <Mad> calcmandan: yeah, that is a common problem, especially if you have certain boradcom cards, i just finished a clean install myself I had several problems, but i'm new to linux so that was to be expected
[07:15] <Cable86> looks like the KDE 4 target release date is October 23 of this year
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, my question is how compatible will it be with NON-kde apps?
[07:15] <Cable86> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kde_4
[07:15] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  thank you it works perfectly now. I appreciate that.
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, np
[07:16] <hendaus> hiya
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, bin files can be tricky
[07:16] <calcmandan> hitmanWilly: i don't know. i doubt the programs would run just fine with the needed libs.
[07:16] <hendaus> please anyone help me i make update for edgy kubuntu and amsn needs TLS module,can anyone help me please
[07:17] <Jack131> how do i find the name of my wif?
[07:17] <Jack131> like wheather is eth0
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> calcmandan, there shouldn't be any issues, but sometimes things don't work as planned
[07:17] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  I am learning, what does chmod +x do exactly?
[07:17] <Ch1ppy> hey, with my upgrade to feisty I have noticed that Kopete's popup for a new message shows up on the top right of my left screen, rather than the bottom right of my right screen where my system tray is, and where it came from in edgy... is there any way to fix this?
[07:18] <Cable86> calcmandan: i wonder if KDE 4 will be in the next release of Kubuntu, as theyre both set to be release during the same month...i have my doubts
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, chmod changes permissions on a file
[07:18] <Mad> I'm looking to use vmware server for virtualization, but it requires a patch to work with the kernel version that feisty uses, has anyone experimented with this and had it work, or other suggestions on virtualization software?
[07:18] <calcmandan> hitmanWilly: i miswrote that. you get the gyst.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> +X is a permission?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, in linux executability is handled as a file permission
[07:18] <Cable86> Kevlar_Soul: +x makes a file executable
[07:18] <calcmandan> Cable86: mark did mention it.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> oh interesting.
[07:18] <Kevlar_Soul> Thank you
[07:18] <calcmandan> do yall use kontact?
[07:18] <hendaus> somebody help me please!!
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, and file extensions don't really matter
[07:19] <Cable86> calcmandan: did he really?  awesome...i wonder if theyll make a freeze exception for it...i know theyve done that for GNOME before
[07:19] <Mad> jack131: open a terminal and type ifconfig
[07:19] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  like .bin?
[07:19] <kalorin> hendaus: yeah for about 5 minutes, then I went to thunderbird
[07:19] <calcmandan> hendaus: in konsole, type sudo apt-cache search TLS
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, most binary files in linux dont have any extension at all
[07:19] <hendaus> kalorin,  thanx , but i make update for edgy kubuntu and amsn cannot open just if u install TLS module
[07:20] <hendaus> calcmandan,  thanx i try
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, because its handled as a permission, you could make foo.heylookatme execute
[07:20] <Ch1ppy> Actually, If I move the System Tray around on my right panel, the bubble moves around, but it is still at the top of the wrong screen... any help?
[07:20] <calcmandan> hendaus: no worries, just a blind guess. i'm not really suited to help people technically. i'm a permanewb.
[07:21] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok done then what can i do
[07:21] <Kevlar_Soul> hitmanWilly:  so, why bin?
[07:21] <calcmandan> hendaus: did you see the pertinent library listed?
[07:21] <apus> I need some help getting envy24control working, anyone use it?
[07:21] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, just for reference purposes
[07:21] <Kevlar_Soul> interesting
[07:21] <calcmandan> hendaus: then type sudo apt-get install _________
[07:22] <calcmandan> hendaus: then type sudo apt-get install TLSwhatever
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> Kevlar_Soul, its a different way of doing things
[07:22] <Cable86> anyway yeah.....KDE4 looks to be simply amazing
[07:22] <calcmandan> yeah
[07:22] <calcmandan> In my mind, I was hoping 7.04 would come with kDE4.  I was hoping the group would have it released by then.
[07:22] <calcmandan> It is worth waiting for.  Either way, 6.06.2 is very stable.
[07:23] <calcmandan> works just fine.
[07:23] <hendaus> calcmandan,  but i cant see TLS in the list,
[07:23] <calcmandan> do you see anything pertaining to TLS?
[07:23] <Cable86> anyone else here use yakuake?  its really cool
[07:23] <calcmandan> YES!
[07:23] <hendaus> calcmandan,  sslwrap - Simple TCP service encryption using TLS/SSL
[07:23] <hendaus>  <-- this is show from list
[07:23] <kalorin> yakuake?
[07:24] <Cable86> !info yakuake
[07:24] <ubotu> yakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB
[07:24] <calcmandan> yakuake is RAD
[07:24] <calcmandan> i use it constantly.
[07:24] <Cable86> i just installed it today...VERY cool
[07:24] <calcmandan> just F12 and BOOM, got console.
[07:24] <Cable86> yup
[07:24] <abortd> !pastebin
[07:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <Cable86> i just switched to KDE today actually
[07:24] <calcmandan> hendaus: sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:25] <calcmandan> see what that does.
[07:25] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok thanx
[07:25] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170/
[07:25] <abortd> anyone know how to fix that?
[07:25] <calcmandan> hendaus: crosses fingers for hendaus.
[07:26] <Lynoure> It seems kpilot does not work anymore. It worked in some betas of Feisty
[07:26] <hendaus> calcmandan,  after done it opens an ubuntu configuration
[07:26] <calcmandan> open amsn.
[07:27] <Shiva88> hey all.... just wondering, do most of you kubuntu users use koffice or open office?
[07:27] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17170/ plz help
[07:27] <hendaus> calcmandan,  ok
[07:27] <Cable86> Shiva88: openoffice...simply because i dont think koffice can handle .doc files
[07:27] <calcmandan> Shiva88: i use both.
[07:28] <Lynoure> Shiva88: feel free to choose the one you prefer :) I haven't tried koffice, for some reason.
[07:28] <pplant> hi
[07:28] <calcmandan> Shiva88: i use open file formats unless someone just absolutely must send me a .doc or .xls.
[07:28] <Shiva88> i was just curious, because i'm running kubutun in VMware on my desktop and i'm really impressed with koffice
[07:28] <Shiva88> er...kubuntu :)
[07:28] <arthur> hello - does anyone know if the realtek sound problem ahs been fixed in feisty?
[07:28] <flaccid> im pretty sure kword can do msword doc
[07:28] <Cable86> that and i dont see the point of having 2 office suites installed :-P
[07:28] <arthur> I downgraded to edgy until this problem is/will be fixed
[07:28] <calcmandan> koffice loads quicker and utilizes fewer resources.  this matters to me most while i'm running qemu.
[07:28] <Shiva88> i thought that it could handle .doc, but i haven't used it extensively
[07:29] <hendaus> calcmandan, i open amsn and when login it opens a window TLS module installation wizard
[07:29] <flaccid> the point of two office suites is dif rendering of prop. documents
[07:29] <calcmandan> hendaus, then follow the prompts.  I don't use amsn and i'm on 6.06.
[07:29] <tmbg> .
[07:31] <Cable86> flaccid: what do you mean?
[07:32] <hendaus> calcmandan,  modules: linux-x86 , linux-x86-64, linux-powerpc,linux-sparc,netbsd-86,netbsd-sparc64,freebsd,solaris,mac,windows,source(need comppiling and instaling),dont install tls it will install it myself
[07:32] <flaccid> like if your word doc looks bad in one suite, it might come out ok in the other
[07:32] <kalorin> how can i tell what version of kde I'm running?
[07:32] <Cable86> ah yes
[07:32] <pplant> does anyone know if it is possible to enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[07:32] <kalorin> ah forget it, I'm stupid 3.5.5
[07:33] <Cable86> but in the scenario where placement is important, wouldnt something like a pdf be more appropriate?
[07:33] <apus> whats the command to see my hardware detected
[07:33] <Shiva88> maybe if you don't want to edit it any further :)
[07:33] <Cable86> apus: lspci?
[07:33] <hendaus> calcmandan,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17171/ <-- this message when i make sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:33] <Lynoure> Ok, does kpilot sync for anyone here on Feisty?
[07:34] <eljefe> good evening.  can anyone tell mw which package to install to allow me to watch mpeg1 videos?
[07:35] <calcmandan> select neither
[07:35] <pplant> eljefe: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:35] <hendaus> calcmandan,  which one
[07:35] <Cable86> eljefe: libxine1-ffmpeg
[07:35] <eljefe> how about in kaffeine?
[07:35] <calcmandan> hendaus, first of all, you didn't paste the complete message.
[07:35] <Cable86> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[07:35] <calcmandan> Select 'neither' if you only intend to use sslwrap by your own request    ?
[07:35] <calcmandan>  ? or want to manually configure it
[07:35] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB
[07:36] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes this when i make sudo apt-get install sslwrap
[07:36] <eljefe> xine-ffmpeg looks right, thanks!
[07:36] <hendaus> calcmandan, and it says the word [ok]  but i cant click it
[07:36] <ForMatter> Hey,everyone..Where i can get kubuntu 7.04 without download it..
[07:36] <calcmandan> hendauys: http://amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3053
[07:36] <Cable86> ForMatter: you could request shipit cd's, but youd have to wait several weeks before they would arrive
[07:37] <ForMatter> Where i can request it..
[07:37] <calcmandan> ForMatter: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[07:37] <apus> my chaintech card is no longer recognized, help please
[07:38] <apus> formatter: why can't you download?
[07:38] <Cable86> ForMatter: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[07:38] <ForMatter> Cable86: where the site address that i can request kubuntu 7.04?
[07:38] <Cable86> bah, you beat me calcmandan
[07:38] <ForMatter> Thanks..
[07:38] <calcmandan> HAH
[07:39] <calcmandan> time for some bach.
[07:39] <madmike_> ok I keep crashing after awhile but it's a weird crash almost like it half way shuts down but out of nowhere can't make it happen it just does it any ideas?
[07:40] <calcmandan> on the live cd for 7.04, i love how konqueror prompted me to install flash automatically when i loaded a site with flash within it.  It works more like firefox does.  it's rather nice as I prefer konqeuror over firefox.
[07:42] <hendaus> calcmandan,  there is one user solve it by saying this -> I created symlink from /usr/lib/tls1.50 to ~.amsn/plugins and it works!
[07:42] <hendaus> calcmandan,  how can i do that
[07:42] <calcmandan> anyone remember how to do a symlink? i haven't done it since redhat 5.
[07:43] <Cable86> konqueror is definitely nice....i had never used it before today since i had always used gnome
[07:43] <hendaus> calcmandan,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17172/ ,-- see this please
[07:43] <calcmandan> well, i've always preferred kde over gnome.  finally decided to do only one of them.  i used to have both installed and would switch back and forth.  but, i like hard drive space.
[07:43] <Cable86> calcmandan: dont you just use -l -s?
[07:44] <calcmandan> hendaus, i read that already.
[07:44] <calcmandan> it's likely not usable for your situation as it is used to run with a web server.
[07:44] <Cable86> calcmandan: ah, its "ln -s"
[07:44] <calcmandan> hendaus...
[07:45] <hendaus> calcmandan,  yes
[07:46] <calcmandan> ln --help
[07:46] <calcmandan> then, i believe it is ln -s TARGET LINK_NAME
[07:46] <dsmith_> is demmocracy player any god?
[07:46] <Cable86> calcmandan: correct
[07:46] <dsmith_> *good
[07:47] <calcmandan> i'm trying to help hendaus here.
[07:47] <hendaus> calcmandan,  it works :)
[07:47] <calcmandan> cable86, what do you think?
[07:47] <hendaus> calcmandan,  thank u friend :))
[07:47] <calcmandan> hendaus: HURRAY. PROST!
[07:47] <Cable86> dsmith_: its pretty good, but its GTK-based
[07:47] <Cable86> calcmandan: what do i think about what?
[07:47] <calcmandan> most welcome hendaus
[07:47] <hendaus> :))
[07:48] <dsmith_> ok
[07:48] <calcmandan> cable86, i was helping hendaus and i was asking what you thought of my suggestions to him.  but it doesn't matter since it is fixed.
[07:48] <Cable86> calc ok :-P
[07:49] <Cable86> so how many here have taken the plunge into 7.04?
[07:50] <flaccid> i have
[07:50] <Cable86> same, its great
[07:51] <flaccid> it seems more stable than dapper which is suprising
[07:52] <Cable86> wow, the #ubuntu channel has an unbelievable number of people in it
[07:52] <calcmandan> I loaded a live disc and played around with it.
[07:52] <Mad> i'm in feisty as well, only problem i still have is getting vmware server, or player to work right
[07:52] <Mad> everything else is amazing
[07:52] <calcmandan> has anyone gotten attempted to get parallels to work on 6.06?
[07:52] <mefisto__> after edgy-to-feisty upgrade, Kicker is always crashing. Nothing to do with my profile (renaming /.kde folder or creating a new user has no effect). Any ideas how I can solve this?
[07:53] <ian_> I've gotten it to work, but it doesn't seem as full-featured as vmware
[07:53] <apus> can anyone help me get my sound card working, ive been googling for an hour
[07:53] <Cable86> mefisto__: you may be looking at a fresh install
[07:53] <calcmandan> i could never get it to work.  said it required a recompile of the kernel.
[07:54] <calcmandan> and that, my friend, is something i would rather not do.
[07:54] <jussi01> can someone tell me what the kde equivalent of libpam-keyring is?
[07:54] <mefisto__> Cable86: but it's just kicker not working. Has anyone had this kind of problem with kicker before?
[07:54] <ian_> calcmandan, you have to ensure that you have the kernel sources loaded, and the kernel headers.  Usually vmware complains it can't find a module that matches the running kernel, so it goes ahead using the kernal source and kernel headers to compile what it needs.
[07:55] <calcmandan> yeah, ian, i did that.  even with all the sources and headers, it never stopped complaining about the same old thing.  felt like i was married.
[07:55] <calcmandan> then the product key expired as it was a demo.
[07:57] <abortd> how do i enable compiz in feisty?
[07:57] <mefisto__> before I do a fresh install, can I somehow get a list of currently installed apps? or maybe just the apps in the Kmenu?
[07:58] <ian_> calmandan, I should hasten to point out that I'm not running Kubuntu, but rather Mepis, which is based about 90% on Dapper Drake. I just wandered in here to try out a new IRC client that I just downloaded from the repositories....
[07:58] <calcmandan> abortd: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/20/1424223&from=rss
[07:59] <ian_> The nice thing about it is, that I even managed to download a virtual machine from the pirate bay and now have OS X reasonably well, except that the sound stutters....
[08:00] <calcmandan> ian_ oh i appreciate the tips.  i gave up as it wasn't really that needed.  just another software toy, if you will.
[08:00] <calcmandan> besides, qemu works just fine fromwhat i hear.  Now I just need to figure out how to create a virtual machine for qemu so i can test stuff in windows without dual booting.
[08:01] <apus> ian what soundcard do you have
[08:01] <ian_> calcmandan, I had absolutely no luck with qemu... perhaps I didn't give it enough of a try.
[08:02] <calcmandan> ian_ my success in qemu has been limited to loading .iso files.  so, for instance, if i want to run 7.04.iso, i type qemu -cdrom 7.04.iso and it loads it like it would as a live CD.
[08:02] <calcmandan> it's just quite slow on my machine as it is running on a 3yo processor.
[08:02] <ian_> apus, it's an Intel HDA on an Asus p5b motherboard... apparently, it's a soundmax AD1988A.
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the command to check a release one is using?
[08:03] <mrdlouisd> how can a transfer files from my win server to linux laptop?
[08:03] <jussi01> calcmandan: what are you trying to do?
[08:03] <flaccid> Admiral_Chicago: lsb_release -a
[08:03] <ian_> Admiral_chicago, try uname -a
[08:03] <flaccid> !samba > mrdlouisd
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks fl
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks all*
[08:04] <calcmandan> jussi01: well, leisurely researching how to create a virtual machine in qemu so I can load an instance of windows as a test environmnet.
[08:04] <mrdlouisd> lot of samba distros got a preference flaccid?
[08:04] <ian_> calcmandan, vmware runs at near native speed on this box... but it is new, with a Dual Core 2.13Ghz, and just over 3GB ram.
[08:04] <abortd> calcmandan, if i have beryl installed did it update it?
[08:04] <calcmandan> abortd: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[08:04] <jussi01> calcmandan: why qemu? dont you like virtualbox or vmware....
[08:05] <abortd> haha im running ubuntu feisty
[08:05] <calcmandan> jussi01: i simply haven't tried them yet. qemu is in the repo and was easiest to get going. no hassle at all.
[08:05] <calcmandan> abortd: feisty has beryl installed. read that article i linked and it'll explain how to enable it.
[08:05] <flaccid> mrdlouisd: there is only one i know of. samba3
[08:05] <ian_> calcmandan, one thing... don't mix vmware workstation and player... they don't play nicely together.
[08:05] <jussi01> calcmandan: fair enough...
[08:06] <mrdlouisd> ah thanks flaccid
[08:06] <mrdlouisd> much appreciated
[08:06] <jussi01> calcmandan: what ian_ said
[08:06] <abortd> i did a upgrade not a fresh install calcmandan and i have beryl installed already
[08:06] <calcmandan> good tip. :)
[08:06] <calcmandan> it just needs to be enabled.
[08:07] <flaccid> ubuntu does need better default samba support. its a very common question here.
[08:07] <calcmandan> ian_ where did you get the virtual machine for xp with vmware?
[08:07] <jussi01> so anyone know how to get the wallet to not ask me for my password every boot?
[08:08] <ian_> calmandan, I made the machine with vmware workstation.
[08:08] <calcmandan> i'm running AMD AthlonXP 1.5GHZ, 1gb RAM, 128mb nvidia video card
[08:08] <calcmandan> ian_: ah, i'm too cheap to buy workstation.
[08:08] <sepeck> you could just get the server edition
[08:08] <ian_> calcmandan, you can run a demo, and if you're really cheap, use a key generator
[08:09] <calcmandan> if i'm too cheap for workstation, i'm definitely too cheap for server.
[08:09] <sepeck> server is free
[08:09] <abortd> im going to just do a new install...
[08:09] <calcmandan> ian_ yeah, but the good folks at vmware deserve the dollar, in my opinion.
[08:09] <saladasalad> hi all, i just hit this bug while upgrading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konq-kim/+bug/99019
[08:09] <saladasalad> now the upgrade manager is just sitting there
[08:09] <mefisto__> before I do a fresh install, can I somehow get a list of currently installed apps? or maybe just the apps in the Kmenu? Can apt do that?
[08:09] <pgquiles> was the ata2 bug with laptops fixed in time for feisty-release?
[08:09] <sepeck> http://www.vmware.com/products/free_virtualization.html
[08:09] <saladasalad> what should i do with it?
[08:09] <calcmandan> mefisto_ good question.
[08:09] <jussi01> !cloning | mefisto__
[08:09] <ubotu> mefisto__: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[08:10] <ian_> calcmandan, You don't hear me arguing there.... the folk over at vmware deserve the money--it's a great product.  It's just too bad that they can't legally make an XP machine and post it.
[08:10] <abortd> how do i mount a partition?
[08:10] <mefisto__> thanks jussi01
[08:10] <jussi01> mefisto__: np
[08:11] <abortd> !mount
[08:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:11] <ian_> calcmandan, some people apparently have used qemu to make virtual machines that they later run with vmware player.
[08:11] <calcmandan> well, i have an authentic copy of xp (given to me), never installed anywhere.  I would like to set aside 20gb for a VM of xp so I can run tests whenever it is needed.
[08:11] <abortd> !diskmounter
[08:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:11] <pgquiles> abortd: mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/disk1 mounts an ext3 partition (/dev/sda1) in disk1
[08:11] <calcmandan> ian_ oh really?
[08:12] <ian_> calcmandan, Now that I think of it, there is apparently a way to use an already-created physical partition, perhaps you should look into that?
[08:12] <saladasalad> anyone?
[08:12] <calcmandan> ian_: uh, i don't have a free partition, to be honest. i suppose I can resize my current partition and create a new one.
[08:14] <apus> if I know the name of a driver, how do I install it?
[08:14] <pgquiles> apus: modprobe driver
[08:14] <calcmandan> sudo apt-get install driver
[08:14] <kalorin> heh
[08:14] <kalorin> too funny
[08:14] <kalorin> run the vmware server on your box
[08:14] <kalorin> connect to it via rdesktop
[08:15] <kalorin> just like being there :)
[08:15] <apus> pqguiles so I need to manually download it?
[08:15] <kalorin> have it mount a samba share of your home directory back
[08:15] <kalorin> now you're all sorts of capable
[08:15] <calcmandan> oh server is free.
[08:15] <calcmandan> hmm, if it's free, it's me
[08:16] <abortd> why wont my new partition let me copy and paste files to it?
[08:16] <calcmandan> abortd: check permissions.
[08:17] <abortd> which one should i set?
[08:17] <ian_> calcmandan, vmware server is really more for server installations as opposed to desktop.  According to what I've read, desktop performance is sluggish using vmware server, as it isn't optimized for desktop use.
[08:17] <calcmandan> oh ok
[08:17] <calcmandan> strike that
[08:17] <saladasalad> can anyone help me out here?
[08:18] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to determine what the UID of a user was after reinstalling Ubuntu?  I need to create 3 new users (who have their own home folders on a separate partition)... but would like all the permissions to remain the same.  However, I lost the paper that I wrote their UIDs on...
[08:19] <calcmandan> saladasalad: i read your question, but it is beyond me.
[08:19] <saladasalad> ok, thanks anyway
[08:19] <calcmandan> try kubuntuforums.net or justlinux.com for soluions.
[08:20] <ian_> calcmandan, try going to www.demonoid.com and search using vmware image.  The first item you'll find is a Windows XP virtual machine.
[08:20] <calcmandan> already downloading one, HAHA
[08:20] <calcmandan> i use ktorrent.
[08:20] <TheCreationist> Is it possible to determine what the UID of a user was after reinstalling Ubuntu?  I need to create 3 new users (who have their own home folders on a separate partition)... but would like all the permissions to remain the same.  However, I lost the paper that I wrote their UIDs on...
[08:21] <ian_> What I like is being able to run OS X under vmware-=it's a bit of a conversatio piece, especially when you run it full-screen....
[08:21] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: Kmenu->System Settings->Users&Groups
[08:21] <flaccid> TheCreationist: no its not. if its wiped, its wiped.
[08:22] <calcmandan> oh
[08:22] <abortd> mount: can't find uuid=12f68f16197e6891 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:22] <abortd> ?
[08:22] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Well, the /home partition hasn't changed at all... is there some way to look at the users' files and determine what user ID number the owner was?
[08:22] <apus> flaccid: I challenge you to get my sound card working
[08:22] <flaccid> apus: why should i
[08:23] <TheCreationist> apus: You using Feisty?
[08:23] <apus> TheCreationist: yes
[08:23] <apus> flaccid: because no one else can
[08:23] <flaccid> TheCreationist: you can check /etc/passwd for IDs on the current system.
[08:23] <TheCreationist> apus: lol good luck.  TONS of people have that problem, and NO ONE knows how to fix it.  I finally just went back and installed Edgy again... because they screwed up hardware stuff in Feisty.
[08:24] <flaccid> apus: thats a lengthy support session. i might be able to do it tonight as im at work now
[08:24] <apus> TheCreationist: its recognized, just doesn't work
[08:24] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Actually, I just found out that I can just right-click on any of the old users' files and look at the permissions... it tells the UID right there.
[08:24] <TheCreationist> apus: Yeah, I know... same here.
[08:24] <TheCreationist> apus: Never looked like something was wrong, it detected the hardware fine, but just wouldn't work no matter what I did.
[08:24] <flaccid> thats right. the current UID
[08:24] <flaccid> you can't get a previous installs UID
[08:24] <flaccid> if its the default admin users, its probably going to be 1001
[08:25] <TheCreationist> flaccid: You sure?  Because I don't have any new users added yet, but each old user's files all have different UIDs
[08:25] <apus> TheCreationist: mine works but no spdif
[08:25] <Mad> apus: have you tried loading only the firmware from a windows driver, it sounds a lot like the problem some broadcom wireless users including myself had
[08:25] <dognews> hi
[08:25] <abortd> i wish i could make a backup partition...
[08:25] <Cable86> broadcom sucks
[08:25] <flaccid> TheCreationist: um yes i'm sure. im not sure what your problem is here at all...
[08:26] <fabon> hello
[08:26] <Mad> cable86: that it does, althought i got mine working riht without ndiswrapper
[08:26] <Mad> right*
[08:26] <TheCreationist> flaccid: I just know that when I add new users to a fresh install, and then assign their OLD /home folder to the NEW user, unless the NEW user has the same UID as the OLD, they won't be able to access their /home files.
[08:26] <fabon> i'vE  problem with my dlink g650+ i cant connect
[08:26] <TheCreationist> flaccid: So I needed to make sure that when I create the NEW users, I give them the same UID.
[08:26] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:26] <Cable86> Mad: really?  i had a 4306 and never ever got it to work....ended up buying an atheros card
[08:26] <flaccid> TheCreationist: yeah but thats just solved with 1 chmod command..
[08:27] <apus> mad there is a program called envy24control designed specifically to make this card work, it just wont run for some reason, says I have the wrong driver (1724) when the program was made for 1712, but people on the net, including the creators of it, say its works for the chaintech av710
[08:27] <Mad> cable86: same card i had, working fine now
[08:27] <flaccid> TheCreationist: don't worrya bout the UID. if you added them correctly just chown
[08:27] <fabon> knetworkmanager stay in 28%
[08:27] <TheCreationist> flaccid: True... but why not save a step if possible?
[08:27] <flaccid> TheCreationist: there is no step to save.
[08:27] <fabon> i'm really san about this
[08:27] <Cable86> Mad: interesting....thing is, last time i tried it i was running dapper :-P
[08:27] <flaccid> sudo chown -R flaccid:flaccid /home/flaccid
[08:27] <TheCreationist> flaccid: Nevermind... I must not be explaining it right.  I figured it out, though...
[08:27] <Mad> apus: well i'm not much of a linux buff, windows expert, but new to linux so i won't even try then
[08:27] <flaccid> thats all you would do
[08:28] <fabon> can you helpe please
[08:28] <fabon> im desperate
[08:28] <apus> kinda ticked, ive heard linux has great hardware support unless its new
[08:28] <apus> this card has been around for 4 years
[08:28] <dognews> I just tried to update my kubuntu with adept_manager and then had this message: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unterprozess gzip ist mit einem Fehlercode zurckgekehrt (1)
[08:28] <dognews> Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unterprozess gzip ist mit einem Fehlercode zurckgekehrt (1)"
[08:28] <Mad> cable86: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[08:28] <fabon> i'vE  problem with my dlink g650+ i cant connect
[08:28] <flaccid> it depends on the vendor. linux has bad support for a lot of hardware still and thats the vendors fault as they don't write drivers etc.
[08:28] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:29] <fabon> mi chip its based on acx111
[08:29] <fabon> sorry
[08:29] <Cable86> Mad: yep, tried that in dapper too, no dice
[08:29] <calcmandan> when i loaded 7.04 on a live disc, i was ripping my hair out trying to get past 28% on my wireless router.  i have a broadcom card.  after removing that knetworkmanager and setting the proper IP for the default gateway, it connected automatically for me and worked fine.
[08:29] <Mad> cable86: they say it is hit or miss, i got lucky i guess
[08:30] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Does Edgy work well for you?
[08:30] <Cable86> Mad: must have...although my replacement card was cheap, so i wasnt too pissed about it
[08:30] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: never tried 6.10 bro, i'm still on 6.06.
[08:30] <Mad> cable86: was it a 100mW card though? or a 40?  the broadcom is a 10mW card so you will lose range if you buy a cheaper 40mW card
[08:31] <calcmandan> i had apt remove knetworkmanager.  then used the network control in system settings.
[08:31] <Cable86> Mad: i honestly have no clue
[08:31] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Ah.  Well, I learned the hard way after using 6.10 for a few months - if it's not broke, don't fix it.  Edgy worked well for me, but I still decided to upgrade to Feisty... lost my sound AND cd burner... no one could help fix it. :P  So just be careful.  If the LiveCD doesn't work, give it a few weeks and see if they offer some bug fixes.
[08:31] <fabon> calcmandan do'u remove knetwork manager?
[08:31] <Mad> cable86: something you can check on, although if it is doing everything you need, then i wouldn't even bother with it
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: well, i got everything to work. the only issue was the wireless card. but, i am going to hold off until kde4 comes out.
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: we were discssing it earlier. 6.06 is really stable and nothing is really wrong with it.
[08:32] <Cable86> Mad: how do i check that?  just the packaging or whatever?
[08:32] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: besides the desire to use the new amarok, i'm happy with what i have.
[08:32] <Mad> this is my first time to run linux in a non-virtual enviroment, put 7.04 on my laptop and working to completely rid it of all that is windows
[08:33] <Mad> cable86: might be on packaging, if not chec vendor website
[08:33] <Cable86> calcmandan: isnt there a repo for the latest amarok?  or is that for edgy?
[08:33] <Mad> cable86: or newegg, sometimes they have stats
[08:33] <fabon> mi card was detected but still in 28%
[08:33] <TheCreationist> calcmandan: Yeah, my biggest reason for not staying with 6.06 for long was Firefox 2...
[08:34] <calcmandan> Cable86: that's edgy
[08:34] <Cable86> calcmandan: ok, just checking
[08:34] <Mad> has anyone here used VirtualBox, and how does it compart to vmware?
[08:34] <calcmandan> TheCreationist: i followed kubutnu.org's instructions on installing firefox 2 manually.
[08:34] <Mad> compare*
[08:34] <fabon> :( mi wifi doesnt work
[08:34] <fabon> i will come back to windows :(
[08:34] <firecrotch> fabon: Are you on Edgy?
[08:35] <Mad> fabon: what card do you use?
[08:35] <fabon> fesity
[08:35] <abortd> why cant i get this partition mounted?
[08:35] <fabon> feisty
[08:35] <Cable86> fabon: is your internet slow or something?
[08:35] <fabon> i cant connect via wifi
[08:35] <Cable86> fabon: my networkmanager % is very low as well, but it works just fine, not slow or anything
[08:36] <fabon> i cant connect still in 28%
[08:36] <calcmandan> Cable86: i removed knetworkmanager and connected wirelessly through network settings.
[08:36] <calcmandan> Cable86: that was on the live disc though. maybe you should try it first via a live disc.
[08:36] <fabon> i can see the networks, in this case my network called "ubuntu"
[08:36] <Mad> fabon: which card do you have?
[08:36] <Cable86> calcmandan: i simply did a manual config without knetworkmanager and that seems to work quite well
[08:36] <fabon> but when i entered the wep key
[08:37] <fabon> plaf!!!!!!! a very large pause in 28%
[08:37] <fabon> and nothing happen
[08:37] <calcmandan> Cable86: well, yeah. i was connecting and pinging, but couldn't surf until i removed the manager soft.
[08:37] <calcmandan> everyone is different i suppose.
[08:37] <Cable86> fabon: do you have SSID broadcast enabled or disabled on your router?
[08:37] <fabon> Mad i have dlink g650+ chip acx111
[08:38] <fabon> enabled
[08:38] <Mad> fabon: i'll see if i can find anything on it, but no promises
[08:38] <fabon> i cant connect none etworks
[08:38] <Cable86> fabon: hm ok...im not sure then
[08:38] <abortd> how do u open a folder with sudo?
[08:38] <fabon> i cant connect in university, in mcdonald XD nothing
[08:38] <Cable86> ive found that feisty doesnt like wireless networks with SSID broadcast disabled
[08:39] <Mad> mine at home works just fine
[08:39] <fabon> i cant connect a s....hit
[08:39] <Cable86> weird...mine wouldnt connect until i enabled it, then it worked perfectly
[08:39] <Mad> although not every feisty install is equal is what i have learned heh
[08:40] <calcmandan> they must've rushed this release.
[08:40] <calcmandan> beta didn't last but a week.
[08:40] <Mad> has anyone here used VirtualBox, if so how does it compare to vmware?
[08:40] <calcmandan> madmike_: not me
[08:40] <fabon> :(
[08:40] <firecrotch> calcmandan: Just because the beta didn't last long doesn't mean that they rushed it
[08:40] <fabon> i dislike windows
[08:40] <fabon> i donde wanna come back
[08:41] <calcmandan> firecrotch: touche.
[08:41] <firecrotch> calcmandan: In fact, I would say that when it was in "alpha", it was beta quality, at least
[08:41] <Mad> me either fabon, hang in there man
[08:41] <Mad> took me a few days to get shit working right, couldn't be happier now though, just need a good virtualization option now
[08:41] <jussi01> Mad: its very good, although i have heard of some troubles on feisty
[08:41] <Cable86> calcmandan: beta was out for almost 1 month
[08:41] <Cable86> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28feisty%29%7C%28schedule%29
[08:41] <Mad> my school requires windows 2k or xp for online software
[08:42] <firecrotch> Mad: What kind of online software?
[08:42] <Mad> jussi01: really, they recently added it to supported versions list
[08:42] <fabon> so i dont have solutions?
[08:42] <Mad> firecrotch: for the online classes
[08:42] <abortd> !fstab
[08:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:43] <firecrotch> Mad: ITT Tech, by chance?
[08:43] <jussi01> Mad: oh, ok, well i was talking to a guy who used it on the beta, maybe they fixed the small prob he had.. others i know have had no probs..
[08:43] <Mad> firecrotch: nope, a&m commerce heh, ecollege is what they use
[08:43] <Mad> jussi01: ty much, is the performance similar to vmware?
[08:44] <apus> so when a 4 year old sound card ISN'T supported, I thinks to myself, switch back to windows
[08:44] <Cable86> Mad: bleh, tell them to use moodle or something :-)
[08:44] <fabon> :( im so sad :(
[08:44] <jussi01> Mad: yeah, its very good performancewise... maybe slightly faster than vmware
[08:44] <Mad> cable86: lol even the techies hate ecollege, it shouldn't be long
[08:44] <firecrotch> fabon: have you tried ifdown <interface>  then ifup <interface> from the command line?
[08:44] <calcmandan> hey, i'm not talking down about kubuntu.  man, this is the best distro i've ever used.
[08:44] <fabon> yep
[08:45] <Mad> jussi01: well i'm going to start the process, thanks much
[08:45] <calcmandan> i'm a big distributor of this OS.  I must've switched two dozen people.
[08:45] <calcmandan> big, in my eyes..
[08:45] <pplant> is anyone else here having problems with audio in feisty? my sound cuts in and out, and is very quiet.
[08:45] <pplant> noticed this in ubuntu and kubuntu, on a toshiba laptop.
[08:45] <Cable86> pplant: nope, my sound is just fine
[08:45] <firecrotch> fabon: well, since you can actually see the network, you're in at least decent shape.  Are you using WEP or WPA?
[08:45] <pplant> sound is fine on my sony vaio, and my dell laptop.
[08:45] <Mad> heh my other option is to put ie on my linux, i don't know what is more evil, being windows dependent, or running the one program i would take out of windows if i only had one choice
[08:45] <fabon> wep
[08:46] <fabon> firecrotch i use wep
[08:47] <firecrotch> fabon: Using a 64 bit key or 128 bits?
[08:47] <calcmandan> g'night folks.  it was fun.
[08:47] <pplant> I have 4 machines here running (k/x/ubuntu) and only the toshiba seems to be having problems with the audio...
[08:47] <firecrotch> goodnight, calcmandan
[08:47] <fabon> 64
[08:47] <fabon> firecrotch 64
[08:48] <firecrotch> fabon:  Try changing the key to 128 bits on your wireless router
[08:48] <fabon> ok
[08:48] <red22> anyone know how to get your winkey working if it's not doing anything? after feisty install it's dead.
[08:48] <Mad> fabon: try taking security off first, and see if it works
[08:49] <Cable86> winkey?
[08:49] <fabon> security off?
[08:49] <fabon> what is that?
[08:49] <Mad> fabon: just make it an open, unsecured connection, and see if it works
[08:49] <red22> cable86: super key, windows key, menu key whatever you want to call it
[08:49] <fabon> oh ok
[08:49] <mattrperry1976> can anyone help with cd/dvd drive mounting?
[08:49] <Cable86> red22: ah, i was pronouncing it as one word, that makes much more sense lol
[08:50] <red22> hehe
[08:50] <firecrotch> Cable86:  lol
[08:50] <red22> don't worry  it's late
[08:50] <Cable86> red22: anyway...in kde the win key is used as a modifier, not as a key in and of itself
[08:50] <red22> point is, anyone know how to get it working again? if you all press it, does your kmenu pop up?
[08:51] <pplant> anyone here running beryl?
[08:51] <firecrotch> pplant: I am
[08:51] <pplant> firecrotch, are you having any issues with playing video with beryl?
[08:52] <red22> cable86: if you press your windows key, does your kmenu open?
[08:52] <nani> hello!!
[08:52] <mattrperry1976> can anyone help with disk/filesystems mounting cd/dvd drives?
[08:52] <firecrotch> pplant:  Nope, haven't had a problem with that
[08:52] <Cable86> red22: no, as i said...it is used as a modifier in KDE....you can configure shortcuts like Win+L (for example), but cant use it as a shortcut by itself
[08:52] <red22> pplant i get a weird green line across the top with beryl
[08:53] <nani> im a beginer with kubuntu and the inglish!!
[08:53] <pplant> :-( I love beryl but I am tired of having to quit out to metacity or kwin to play video on vlc... :-(
[08:53] <firecrotch> pplant: Try disabling effects and stuff one by one, and you'll probably figure out what is causing it.
[08:53] <red22> pplant what happens when you try video under beryl?
[08:53] <pplant> ahh... good idea, I have them all cranked up
[08:54] <nani> good bye people
[08:54] <pplant> red22.. the video flickers when I move the window by dragging the title bar.. and when I let go, just black in the region where the video should be.
[08:54] <red22> cable86: for example, what is a key combo with the windows key to test if it's working?
[08:54] <shrimants> hello, i am having problems with Kubuntu, Amarok, and my MP3 player
[08:54] <faboncito> ready i change to an uot of password network
[08:54] <firecrotch> pplant:  my guess is it's the Put plugin
[08:54] <Cable86> red22: well, you would have to configure one
[08:54] <faboncito> let see what happend
[08:54] <pplant> video appears to play (decode) just fine otherwise.. when I switch back to the default window manager it works okay
[08:54] <red22> pplant: no i don't get that problem here
[08:55] <pplant> (disabling put.. brb)
[08:55] <shrimants> i was able to make amarok recognize the player, but now i do not know how to transfer files from the player to the computer
[08:55] <pplant> hm.. put is already disabled.. that's not it.
[08:55] <red22> cable86: so under feisty the windows key by defalut does nothing?
[08:55] <faboncito> the same shit :(
[08:55] <faboncito> the network doenst work
[08:55] <Cable86> red22: correct
[08:55] <faboncito> i cant connect to my wireless
[08:55] <jordo23> !version
[08:55] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:56] <red22> older kubuntu versions all have used it to open the kmenu by default..
[08:56] <jordo23> !nvidia
[08:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:56] <faboncito> :(
[08:56] <shrimants> help? anyone?
[08:57] <Cable86> goodnight all, its 2am and bedtime for me
[08:57] <shrimants> night
[08:57] <red22> gn
[08:58] <red22> anyone else know how to get your windows key on your keyboard working pls?
[08:59] <kraut> moin
[08:59] <red22> i installed beryl and i can do everything except that which requires the windows key.  (it works if i bind the command to another key so apparently the win key is dead)
[08:59] <JohnFlux> !winkey
[08:59] <ubotu> To use the windows key in keyboard shortcuts as a modifier (like ALT): Run 'xmodmap' and see what Super_L corresponds to.  Then follow method B at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560 and use <mod4> (or whatever Super_L corresponded to with 'xmodmap') as the modifier. For example, a shortcut to use windows key + d would look like '<mod4>d'
[08:59] <JohnFlux> red22: ^
[09:00] <red22> ah ty i will read. brb.
[09:00] <fabon2> hello again
[09:00] <fabon2> :(
[09:00] <shrimants> help me please
[09:00] <jordo23> To installl Nvidia drivers on Feisty, the wiki says to use the Restricted Device Manager.....where is this in Kubuntu?
[09:01] <firecrotch> red22: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2006/10/kde-multimediaextended-keys-setup-on.html   may be helpful to you
[09:03] <fabon2> so i cant use my wifi :(
[09:03] <fabon2> i will come back to windows :(
[09:03] <fabon2> sorry friends
[09:03] <fabon2> but i need wifi
[09:04] <trym> Im having trouble running the live cd on an ati radeon mobility x1350
[09:05] <trym> isnt that supposed to be supported?
[09:05] <TheCreationist> So in the guide to upgrading from Edgy to Feisty, it says to Enable edgy-upgrades in my sources... I don't see it listed there anywhere...
[09:07] <jordo23> How do you initiate the Restricted Package manager?
[09:07] <jordo23> Or where?
[09:12] <Tired_> Hi.  I just felt compelled to pop in and say how thoroughly impressed I am with my new Feisty desktop.
[09:12] <Tired_> Kudos.  :)
[09:12] <red22> JohnFlux + firecrotch: thanks, both links pretty useful.  i used xev to see my key bindings and it does capture the win key fine when pressed (super_l) it's just not bound to anything.  weird that beryl doesn't like it for shortcuts..
[09:13] <JohnFlux> red22: beryl is gtk, so maybe there's something there
[09:15] <mad_dawg> hey all, i'm looking for a good, fully functional, free compiler, similar to bloodshed dev c++ for windows if possible, and suggestions?
[09:15] <red22> true, i'll try searching for it in regards to that and see.
[09:16] <igi> hi, how to install package I have on my hd with all its depes. from repos?
[09:21] <Endler> Is anyone here using Firestarter?  It works for me under Kubuntu 7.04, but crashes if I click the "Lock Firewall" button.  I does, it fact lock down the firewall before hanging, I will put it back in normal mode if you terminate it and relaunch it.  But you can never lock, and they right away unlock it by hitting the unlock button, because it freezes up immediately after locking.
[09:21] <jordo23> What do I do if the restricted-manager says I have my Nvidia driver enabled, I have a supported card, but do not see any Nvidia boot screen nor have access to any higher screen resolutions?
[09:25] <Ayabara> Has anyone seen a .deb for Thunderbird 2.0 yet?
[09:26] <Hobbsee> Ayabara: doesnt exist
[09:28] <Ayabara> Hobbsee, ok. maybe I can build it myself to install?
[09:28] <Ayabara> what a sentence..
[09:28] <Hobbsee> Ayabara: see wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[09:29] <Ayabara> Hobbsee, just what I wanted. thanks :-)
[09:30] <gh> c/lose
[09:31] <jordo23> I Installed the Nvidia driver through the restricted device/driver manager, and see it enabled. I have a supported card and it worked fine under Edgy. I can't access any higher resolutions nor see an nvidia splash screen when x starts....any ideas?
[09:38] <crweb> how do i get the installer to let me install without formatting my / ?
[09:39] <lithium> i have a logitech  MX518 mouse.. how to enable the side buttons on tis one ?
[09:39] <Hobbsee> crweb: you cant, unless you make another partition
[09:40] <crweb> thats not a good thing
[09:40] <crweb> all i have is /backup on the partition
[09:41] <Hobbsee> you need to stick the backup on another partition, or burn it to cd or something
[09:42] <crweb> that is just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard
[09:42] <lithium> cant anyone help ma with my mouse ?
[09:42] <crweb> is there not a console or advanced installer anymore?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> does *any* os let you do that?
[09:42] <Hobbsee> sure, it's on the alternate cd
[09:43] <Hobbsee> but it will format / and install on it
[09:43] <crweb> Hobbsee: *any* other os i've ever used will yes
[09:43] <crweb> especially when you're trying to recover
[09:43] <apokryphos> Ubuntu has another CD for the more advanced installation
[09:44] <crweb> i suppose i'm suppose to magically download it into ram, and burn it to cd..
[09:44] <crweb> lukey thing _i_ can...
[09:44] <crweb> lucky
[09:45] <crazy_bus> can k3b burn video dvds from any video file.  Or do I need to use another program?
[09:45] <tenmoi> join #kubuntu
[09:47] <boyke> how can i install java on kubuntu?
[09:48] <boyke> how can i install java on kubuntu?
[09:48] <boyke> hallo
[09:48] <boyke> kubuntuers
[09:48] <boyke> can you help me?
[09:49] <tenmoi> what version is it
[09:49] <boyke> 6
[09:50] <tenmoi> 6.10?
[09:50] <boyke> ya
[09:50] <kinus_> isn't there a java6 package in universe?
[09:50] <boyke> i try adept installer but return me an error
[09:51] <tenmoi> have an internet connection
[09:52] <boyke> yes
[09:53] <tenmoi> wait a minute. i know where to get help.
[09:53] <boyke> ok tks
[09:53] <pgquiles_> boyke: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse to the repositories
[09:53] <sean__> hi i just installed kubuntu
[09:54] <sean__> how can i get rid of animations and shadows?
[09:54] <boyke> can you tell me how?
[09:54] <boyke> open a source list
[09:54] <boyke> and?
[09:55] <pplant> I got an error when installing java too.
[09:56] <pplant> I had to roll it back to java5
[09:56] <boyke> i already open source.list
[09:56] <boyke> how should i add a line?
[09:57] <boyke> theres multiverse to there
[09:57] <boyke> can anybody help me installing java?
[09:57] <pplant> go into adept and add the sun java componenets, version 5
[09:58] <boyke> pplant : i get an error message
[09:58] <pplant> use the gui, it's easiest
[09:58] <pplant> what error do you get?
[09:58] <boyke> wait
[09:58] <boyke> what section?
[09:59] <boyke> internet?
[09:59] <pplant> umm.... yes, internet
[09:59] <pplant> use the "sun" ones
[09:59] <renato> Hi, I have swiftbox 32 bit installed on a box with feisty amd64. Does anybody know how I can install on it the 32 bit vlc and vlc plugins?
[10:00] <boyke> wait my adept is still runing
[10:00] <pplant> renato, i dunno, never ran the 64 bit versions of ubuntu
[10:01] <pplant> boyke: quit all of your adepts and also quit any konsole windows you may have recently run apt-get inside of, as they can leave behind instances
[10:01] <boyke> ok
[10:04] <pgquiles_> boyke: paste your sources.list
[10:04] <sean__> how do i get rid of the animation when i scroll over a window in the taskbar
[10:05] <pplant> in kde, sean?
[10:06] <MementoMori> hi all
[10:07] <sean__> yeah
[10:07] <MementoMori> which package should I install in order to have svn text client?
[10:07] <MementoMori> !svn
[10:07] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:07] <pplant> it's in settings>look and feel>appearance
[10:07] <david_> :)  Helpful people: xorg.conf says all my display modes are able to go to 1280x1024, but the silly KDE junk won't let me change it beyone 800x600... Any ideas?
[10:08] <sean__> not in settings manager
[10:09] <david_> ?
[10:09] <pplant> hmm
[10:09] <pplant> "enable hover" didnt work for you?
[10:10] <litropy> guys, I'm getting a white screen when starting beryl
[10:11] <litropy> nobody's in #beryl right now
[10:11] <pplant> white screen when starting beryl, means you are out of video memory
[10:11] <litropy> nvidia card, feisty 7.04, latest version of beryl.
[10:11] <pplant> disable any intensive GL screensavers that may be running, games, etc... reboot to clear memory.
[10:12] <sean__> where is that?
[10:12] <pplant> sean, I just tried it and it doesnt look like it works.. i want to disble those things too because they conflict with beryl's thumbnails
[10:13] <litropy> it is a white screen, sean, but I still have my cursor
[10:13] <litropy> err not sean pplant
[10:13] <pplant> too tired/drunk to go a-hunting for it now.. suspect it's in the settings manager somewhere
[10:13] <tenmoi> boyke. are you there
[10:13] <pplant> litropy, when the white screen comes up, can you control-alt and click to get to the cube?
[10:14] <litropy> I'll try. might have to ctrl-alt-delete so I might brb
[10:14] <sean__> now to get hardware acceleration to work :P
[10:14] <jordo23> I have just installed Kubuntu Feisty. Fresh install. What's the best way to install the driver for my Nvidia 6800?
[10:14] <pplant> if the white screen hangs you up hit control-alt-backspace to kill/restart X
[10:14] <sean__> i have an old card, tnt and it won't let me switch
[10:15] <david_> okay.... kubuntu recognized my Nvidia card's model.... It recognized my monitor.... Would it help to install a proprietary driver?  And if so, why doesn't "su -" work?
[10:15] <pplant> had the white screen bite me a couple of times on this lousy GMA945 adapter
[10:15] <david_> yet it still isn't letting me switch resolution!
[10:16] <jordo23> I tried installing with the Restricted Device Manager and it did nothing...
[10:16] <jordo23> david_:  same thing happened to me.....can't get higher resolutions....
[10:16] <sean__> how do you get restricted device in kubuntu?
[10:16] <jordo23> sean_: I installed restricted-manager through apt....
[10:16] <david_> That sux... What's funny is that I magically got it to work yesterday, but I re-installed.... Now it won't work again.
[10:16] <david_> wish I remembered how i did it lol
[10:17] <litropy> yes, got the cube
[10:17] <sean__> i say i prefer kubuntu over ubuntu so far
[10:17] <jordo23> david_: I used the restricted manager, and everything installed fine...it said....but I never got an Nvidia splash or access to higher resolutions...
[10:17] <litropy> pplant^
[10:17] <pplant> litropy: okay. that's your card running out of video memory
[10:17] <david_> What's restricted manager?
[10:17] <pplant> what kind of video do you running?
[10:18] <litropy> NTSC
[10:18] <nnael> so can't get rid of the toolbar thing :/
[10:18] <jordo23> david_ it's the program the wiki says to install the drivers with...
[10:18] <nnael> affect
[10:18] <nnael> effect
[10:18] <pplant> ati, nvidia, intel, ?
[10:18] <litropy> nvidia
[10:18] <david_> oh ok
[10:18] <pplant> what model nvidia?
[10:18] <litropy> geforce fx I believe
[10:18] <david_> nvidia=evil
[10:18] <pplant> how much memory on the card?
[10:19] <litropy> I need to know how to do that, pplant
[10:19] <nnael> boy does the Opensource NV driver blow
[10:19] <jordo23> david_: ati = evil
[10:19] <nnael> full software rendering :/
[10:19] <david_> ati=satan nvidia=servile demons
[10:19] <nnael> and nvidia legacy thing crashed
[10:20] <jordo23> !nvidia
[10:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <pplant> litropy, what happens when you enable the default desktop effects built into feisty? (compiz)
[10:20] <dettoaltrimenti> ok, so I have sda1, 2, 3, and 4- when I type mount, only sda1 and 2 seem to be used: I'm guessing another one of them is the swap. Is there any way I can tell what they do?
[10:21] <pplant> dettoal: type "mount" by itself, or type "df"
[10:22] <litropy> checking, pplant
[10:22] <david_> how do you get to the main kcontrol panel?  I don't see it in the menu
[10:22] <david_> I actually think that's how I got my card fully working yesterday
[10:23] <litropy> pplant, I'm in Desktop - System Settings. What would you like for me to enable?
[10:23] <_4strO> david_: alt + F2 then kcontrol
[10:24] <pplant> oh sorry litropy you are running kde.. forgot
[10:24] <david_> thx 4strO
[10:24] <pplant> they didnt include the desktop effects in kubuntu
[10:24] <litropy> it's all good, pplant
[10:25] <pplant> my ubuntu has both gnome and kde installed
[10:25] <litropy> nice, pplant
[10:25] <pplant> it sucks actually... they clobber each other's settings. I am going to reinstall with just kubuntu tomorrow
[10:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> you having a problem with feisty?
[10:27] <pplant> no, feisty has been good to me so far, except for intermittent audio on my toshiba laptop
[10:27] <litropy> I am, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> im on a toshiba satellite- what's the audio problem
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> what's up, litropy
[10:27] <litropy> I get the white cube when starting beryl.
[10:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> what kind of graphics card do you have
[10:27] <pplant> audio is quiet, flickering in and out between high and low volumes
[10:27] <litropy> not directly deisty...
[10:27] <sean__> lol glinfo crashes :P
[10:27] <litropy> nvidia
[10:28] <pplant> it worked fine under dapper and edgy
[10:28] <pplant> toshiba satellite A105
[10:28] <_roconnor> how do I stop KDE from autmatically mounting my usb drive partitions?
[10:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> pplant: have you looked at the settings in Sound System under system settings?
[10:29] <sean__> kubntu needs a tweakui :P
[10:29] <sean__> to turn off all the stupid animations in one place :/
[10:29] <pplant> yes. I am pretty sure it's a kernel problem. had this problem under herd 5, the march beta, ubuntu and kubuntu feisty
[10:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: do you have the correct drivers installed?
[10:31] <litropy> it's a GeForce FX 5200
[10:31] <litropy> 16 and 128 m
[10:32] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ how do I check that
[10:33] <MementoMori> !nvu
[10:33] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[10:33] <litropy> how do I get to my restricted devices manager? it's not listed in the menu the docs say it is.
[10:33] <david_> Okay.. I just downloaded a butt-load of driver tools for NVIDIA from Adept Manager... I'll let you know if it works or not.
[10:33] <MementoMori> !html
[10:33] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: see if you have the packages nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-glx
[10:35] <pplant> that 5200 is an older card, it might not have the beans to run beryl... but with 128mb it should...
[10:36] <pplant> it might be covered with the nvidia legacy drivers, which in my experience have been more reliable than the new ones
[10:36] <sean__> nvidia legacy causes glxinfo to crash :P
[10:36] <litropy> adept shows nothing nvidia, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:36] <sean__> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:37] <litropy> checking synaptic
[10:37] <david_> Hey pplant-- I got it to 1280x1024.   Viola!  (And I added my monitor... )
[10:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy- no, stay in adept
[10:37] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- type in nvidia, and look at what you don't have installed. you need one of those drivers: don't ask me which one though, because I have no idea
[10:38] <pplant> sometimes that's all it takes david
[10:38] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_, adept shows nothing when searching for nvidia
[10:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- the legacy drivers are for older chipsets, and nvidia-glx is for newer ones
[10:38] <david_> i hope you have better luck with your evil hardware.....
[10:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh litropy- do you have the extra repositories enabled?
[10:39] <litropy> probably not, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:39] <pplant> my hardware is fine... they broke the kernel!
[10:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> after you do that, hit 'fetch updates' and they should show up
[10:40] <litropy> reading and following, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- and like it says, you want the main, universe, multiverse, and restricted repositories
[10:41] <pplant> I have found that it really helps to have multiple linux boxes in the lab at the same time to troubleshoot these problems
[10:41] <root__> whether xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-vedio-savage is very essential package for os
[10:41] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> one sec
[10:41] <pplant> I don't think they put as much attention into kubuntu as they do into ubuntu
[10:42] <ferret_0567> How do I change the X server command line in KDM? I need to add "-dpi 96" to it
[10:43] <sivaji> !xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-vedio-savag
[10:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia about halfway down the page is the instructions for kubuntu- I know it's already installed, but it's probably just a matter of something that didn't download- just follow those instructions
[10:43] <sivaji> !xserver-xorg-video-all
[10:43] <sivaji> !startx
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <jussi01> hi all can someone tell me which option to choose? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17183/
[10:43] <litropy> okay, dettoaltrimenti_
[10:43] <jussi01> which one do i install??
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> doesn't really matter, jussi01
[10:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> install all of them
[10:45] <_4strO> jussi01: sudo apt-get install qmake
[10:45] <sean__> how can i get rid of all window animation? :/
[10:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> there is no package 'qmake'
[10:47] <kipseron> somone can help me i install update from my kubuntu and stop the update in 80% and now i can get into the system someone can help finish the update from the live cd
[10:47] <kipseron> ?
[10:47] <kipseron> i am now in the live cd
[10:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> sean__ kmenu- system settings- appearance- style- uncheck "enable GUI effects"
[10:49] <_4strO> kipseron: now i can get into the system <-- what does it mean ?
[10:49] <sean__> 	error	Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:49] <sean__> yay
[10:49] <kipseron> can't
[10:49] <kipseron> no can
[10:49] <_4strO> yes
[10:49] <_4strO> but were you block ?
[10:50] <kipseron> i need to finish the update from the live cd
[10:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> sean__ I don't know where that error came from, or if that means you need help, but you could download the nvidia driver from adept
[10:50] <kipseron> _4strO:
[10:50] <kipseron> so yoy can help me
[10:51] <kipseron> finish the update forom live cd
[10:51] <boyke> i got a message that my adept are running when i run add/remove program
[10:51] <boyke> what should i do?
[10:51] <_4strO> kipseron: perhaps i can help you, but not to finish the update from the live CD ...
[10:51] <darren> anyone used microsnot office 2007 in kubuntu ?
[10:51] <kipseron> konsole
[10:51] <kipseron> pkill adept
[10:52] <_4strO> boyke: close adept ?
[10:52] <kipseron> so what i need to do now
[10:52] <sivaji>  when i enter some website name my firefox browser terminated automatically
[10:52] <_4strO> kipseron: where you block ?
[10:52] <kipseron> i cant get into the kubuntu
[10:52] <_4strO> can you enter you login ?
[10:52] <kipseron> /dev/hdb1
[10:52] <kipseron> no
[10:52] <boyke> it said
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can you log into the terminal?
[10:53] <boyke> another process is using the package system database
[10:53] <kipseron> yes
[10:53] <kipseron> but i can run commands
[10:53] <ferret_0567> What's the error?
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can't run commands- what does it say when you try to run commands?
[10:53] <kipseron> when i type somthing it ask for password
[10:53] <kipseron> and i enter password
[10:53] <ferret_0567> Is adept, dpkg, aptitude, or apt-get running?
[10:53] <sivaji> !startx
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <boyke> please close the other application before using this one
[10:53] <kipseron> and its say it not right password
[10:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- is synaptic or another adept running?
[10:53] <boyke> adept
[10:53] <boyke> installer
[10:53] <kipseron> i know what is startx but i cant do that
[10:54] <boyke> no
[10:54] <_4strO> how can you get a kpnsole kipseron?
[10:54] <boyke> i allready pkill adept at console
[10:54] <kipseron> what i start the system
[10:54] <kipseron> its give me errors
[10:54] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- type sudo X, then tell me the error
[10:54] <kipseron> and after this i click ctrl+alt+f3
[10:54] <boyke> but its still gives me same message
[10:54] <kipseron> ok
[10:54] <kipseron> sex
[10:54] <kipseron> sec
[10:55] <sivaji> !
[10:55] <_4strO> boyke: ps -A | grep adept
[10:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- type 'less ps -e' and see if there are any programs running named adept or synaptic
[10:56] <boyke> ps: No such file or directory
[10:56] <boyke> -e: No such file or directory
[10:56] <_4strO> boyke: ps -A | grep adept
[10:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh yeah sorry, ps -A | grep adept
[10:57] <boyke> boyke@doeabelas:~$ ps -A | grep adept
[10:57] <boyke>  5781 ?        00:00:01 adept_installer
[10:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> sudo kill 5781
[10:57] <sean__> going to try restricted, see if it helps
[10:59] <boyke> now i cannot run my add/remove program
[10:59] <ferret_0567> dettoaltrimenti_: about your post at 03:46:58 AM, it's 'ps -e | less'
[10:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah thanks ferret
[11:00] <ferret_0567> boyke: run sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Just to get a error...
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Paste that into pastebin
[11:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> or you could just restart!
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Pfft
[11:00] <_4strO> lol
[11:00] <ferret_0567> Restart? Restart!?!?!?!
[11:00] <_4strO> windows solution
[11:01] <ferret_0567> Yup
[11:01] <athena> _4strO i have a question]
[11:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> you _almost_ never need to restart in linux. sometimes it's just easier
[11:01] <kipseron> ok
[11:01] <kipseron> iu bac
[11:01] <boyke> boyke@doeabelas:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:01] <boyke> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:01] <athena> _4strO is it possible to have a auto login?
[11:01] <_4strO> athena: !!! ;)
[11:01] <kipseron> i cant get konsole
[11:01] <_4strO> athena: did your soundsystem ok ?
[11:01] <kipseron> _4strO:
[11:01] <kipseron> i cant get console
[11:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- that's it, run the command dpkg -configure -a, and it will work after that
[11:01] <ferret_0567> then run dpkg --configure -a , like it said, boyke
[11:01] <athena> _4strO perfect
[11:01] <renato> mc
[11:01] <_4strO> ^^
[11:01] <athena> _4strO how are you?
[11:01] <ferret_0567> I trusted it when it said that
[11:02] <ferret_0567> It worked perfectly!
[11:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- what happens when you try to run the terminal?
[11:02] <ferret_0567> err...
[11:02] <kipseron> when i start the system
[11:02] <kipseron> its tell me error
[11:02] <kipseron> unknown stanza
[11:02] <kipseron> in event.d
[11:02] <boyke> dpkg: pilihan -o tak dikenal
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[11:02] <ferret_0567> boyke: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", without quotes, like the error said
[11:02] <boyke> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[11:02] <boyke> Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[11:02] <boyke> Options marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[11:02] <kipseron> and after this more error
[11:02] <kipseron> and its stucks
[11:02] <_4strO> athena: auto login where ? in KDE ?
[11:02] <kipseron> stuck
[11:02] <ferret_0567> !flood | boyke
[11:02] <ubotu> boyke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <athena> _4strO gnome so i dont have to login
[11:03] <ferret_0567> 8 lines, wow
[11:03] <ferret_0567> Has that record been beaten already?
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> aha kipseron
[11:04] <_4strO> athena: K / system settings / advanced
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- are you on the live cd?
[11:04] <kipseron> yes
[11:04] <kipseron> i am on live cd
[11:04] <kipseron> i cant get into the system
[11:04] <athena> _4strO back in five
[11:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- can you mount your hard drive?
[11:04] <kipseron> yes
[11:04] <ferret_0567> boyke, did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[11:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok, so mount it
[11:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> kipseron- mount it, then try this command 'sudo chroot /mnt(or whatever your HD is) apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken'
[11:06] <kipseron> ok
[11:06] <_4strO> kipseron: you get error message before the login screen exact ?
[11:06] <kipseron> my login screen dont exact
[11:07] <boyke> yes
[11:07] <boyke> i run sudo
[11:07] <boyke> but still error
[11:07] <_4strO> kipseron: sudo mkdir linuxtmp && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda* /linuxtmp
[11:07] <_4strO> where * is your partition number
[11:07] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke you did the dpkg configure command and there's still an error?
[11:07] <boyke> ya
[11:07] <kipseron> /dev/hdb1
[11:07] <_4strO> kipseron: ok
[11:08] <ferret_0567> Then, run sudo apt-get install firefox to test
[11:08] <_4strO> whatever
[11:08] <ferret_0567> ...again
[11:08] <kipseron> i think
[11:08] <kipseron> its work
[11:08] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes
[11:08] <kipseron> i think your way fix it
[11:08] <kipseron> sec
[11:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> awesome
[11:08] <kipseron> if you fix it for me you my god
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> hah- what country are you from?
[11:09] <kipseron> isreal
[11:09] <kipseron> =]
[11:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> cool- im form russia
[11:09] <kipseron> we have a lot from you in isreal
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh yes I know
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> I think there are no native english speakers in here
[11:10] <kipseron> you know russian
[11:10] <kipseron> ?
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes of course
[11:10] <kipseron> wow
[11:10] <kipseron> what a big
[11:10] <kipseron> upgrade
[11:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> you know hebrew yes?
[11:10] <kipseron> sec back
[11:10] <kipseron> ok
[11:10] <sivaji> how to configure firefox for  java applet
[11:11] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- are you running Edgy or Feisty?
[11:11] <sivaji> feisty
[11:11] <ferret_0567> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[11:11] <ferret_0567> Then close firefox
[11:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes, that
[11:12] <ferret_0567> You can use Adept, and install the packages beginning with sun, if you want
[11:12] <athena> _4strO what do i have to do again?
[11:12] <nbcb> is there a tvuplayer  in linux?
[11:12] <ferret_0567> That's just a alternative way
[11:12] <_4strO> athena: K /system settings /
[11:12] <_4strO> athena: advanced
[11:13] <ferret_0567> nbcb: yes
[11:13] <nbcb> ferret_0567: what's the package name?
[11:13] <ferret_0567> Some KDE media player will do it
[11:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> nbcb a tv player? or is tvu something else
[11:13] <ferret_0567> I forget
[11:13] <_4strO> athena: ok ?
[11:13] <ferret_0567> kaffeine might do it
[11:14] <vbgunz> !compiz > vbgunz
[11:14] <athena> _4strO Cant find system settings
[11:14] <ferret_0567> I think it's kmplayer
[11:14] <nbcb> its a online tv streaming player on windows
[11:14] <_4strO> athena: you're on KDE right ?
[11:14] <ferret_0567> hmmm...
[11:14] <athena> _4strO GNOME
[11:14] <_4strO> haaaaaa
[11:14] <_4strO> sorry cant help with gnome :p
[11:14] <nbcb> !kmplayer
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <ferret_0567> athena: join #ubuntu
[11:14] <athena> _4strO OK COOL..
[11:15] <ferret_0567> !show kmplayer
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about show kmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <nbcb> kmplayer is a tv streaming online player?
[11:15] <kipseron> i back
[11:15] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:15] <ferret_0567> no
[11:15] <ferret_0567> Maybe
[11:15] <kipseron> I KNOW HEBREW YES
[11:15] <kipseron> you know hebrew
[11:15] <ferret_0567> It plays streaming media
[11:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh no, I am russian, I know russian
[11:15] <kipseron> you know 1 word in hebrew
[11:15] <kipseron> ?
[11:15] <ferret_0567> Not sure if it's compatible with your tv thingy
[11:16] <ferret_0567> Not sure about kaffeine either
[11:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> ya-weh is god, I think
[11:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> nbcb VLC may play it
[11:16] <kipseron> what the word
[11:17] <kipseron> ya-weh
[11:17] <kipseron> what is ya-weh
[11:17] <boyke> i already restart my pc but stikk u cannot run my add/remove program
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> god in hebrew, maybe?
[11:17] <kipseron> no
[11:17] <kipseron> its tov
[11:17] <kipseron> god
[11:17] <kipseron> you mean
[11:17] <boyke> i already restart my pc but still i cannot run my add/remove program
[11:17] <kipseron> you mean
[11:17] <kipseron> god or good
[11:17] <kipseron> ?
[11:17] <_4strO> mazel tov
[11:17] <kipseron> hh
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- did you already run the command 'sudo dpkg -configure -a'?
[11:17] <kipseron> tov its good in hebrew
[11:18] <kipseron> and god its alohim
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah mazel tov, mitzhvah
[11:18] <ferret_0567> You need to run that command in Konsole, boyke
[11:18] <kipseron> hhh
[11:18] <kipseron> lol
[11:18] <kipseron> hag sameah you know
[11:18] <kipseron> |?
[11:18] <kipseron> its happy holiday
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> now I know
[11:19] <lenscape> !real
[11:19] <boyke> -o its not recognizq
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> !offtopic
[11:19] <vbgunz> honestly, anyone know why Feisty is much faster than Edgy? I know it's a good thing but it is virtually very surprising how much quicker it is for me... wtf happened?
[11:19] <kipseron> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes kipseron
[11:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <kipseron> i think you fix my problem
[11:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:19] <boyke> -o its not recognize
[11:19] <kipseron> i love you]
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> hah thanks
[11:20] <_4strO> boyke: .... -a ...
[11:21] <boyke> yes but it come up en error message said -o option unrecognize
[11:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- run the command and then put it all in the pastebin
[11:22] <_4strO> sudo dpkg -configure -a cant say -o is not reconized ...
[11:22] <boyke> yes
[11:22] <boyke> astro right
[11:22] <ferret_0567> Huh?
[11:22] <ferret_0567> That is weird!
[11:23] <boyke> hehehehehe
[11:23] <boyke> but its true
[11:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- try again, and copy it into the pastebin
[11:23] <_4strO> boyke: itsn't
[11:23] <bbm4n> i anyone experiencing system freezes with feisty?
[11:23] <boyke> sudo dpkg -configure -a right?
[11:24] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes boyke
[11:24] <boyke> dpkg: pilihan -o tak dikenal it is the result
[11:24] <boyke> in english it means -o its unrecognize
[11:25] <boyke> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*] ;
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, boyke
[11:25] <boyke> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> two dashes before configure
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> dettoaltrimenti_:
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thank
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:25] <_4strO> ^^
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> _4strO:
[11:25] <KiPSeRoN> thanks to you to
[11:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> I swear the first time I wrote it, both dashes were in there!
[11:26] <boyke> hehehehehe sorry my mistake
[11:26] <bbm4n> yesterday i upgraded to feisty and my system freezes like i have unplugged mouse/keyboard
[11:26] <boyke> yes it worked
[11:26] <boyke> thanks guys
[11:27] <_4strO> bbm4n: all the time ?
[11:27] <bbm4n> yes
[11:27] <boyke> can you explain why whould that happen?
[11:27] <bbm4n> no apparent reason
[11:27] <bbm4n> either  when i am surfing with firefox
[11:27] <bbm4n> or using kaffeine
[11:28] <bbm4n> or whatever
[11:28] <bbm4n> it hangs like for 20sec's totally
[11:28] <bbm4n> and then its back
[11:29] <boyke> i cannot install java on my kubuntu
[11:29] <bbm4n> i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/106728 this
[11:30] <sivaji> is there any gui based download manager for feisty
[11:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- Adept and Synaptic
[11:30] <_4strO> sivaji: kget
[11:30] <bbm4n> and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405993
[11:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, download manager
[11:31] <bbm4n> any ideas??
[11:32] <sivaji> E: Couldn't find package kget
[11:32] <_4strO> bbm4n: nop :/ did you do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[11:32] <_4strO> sivaji: you're on kde ?
[11:32] <sivaji> yes
[11:33] <_4strO> weird
[11:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji, do you have the universe repository enabled
[11:34] <bbm4n> _4strO: no i just used a pop up window asking me if i wanted to upgrade to kubuntu last version ( previously i had edgy )
[11:34] <sivaji> i dont know
[11:34] <litropy> not working out.
[11:34] <_4strO> bbm4n: then do
[11:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_add_extra_repositories follow the instructions there
[11:35] <litropy> I have all the visual effects disabled and it still goes white on me
[11:35] <bbm4n> _4strO: kk
[11:35] <litropy> still there pplant and/or dettoaltrimenti_?
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> sivaji- after you do that, click on 'Fetch Updates' in adept (or sudo apt-get update) and look for it again
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy, what's up
[11:36] <boyke> why i cannot install java ??
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- are you getting an error message?
[11:36] <boyke> ya
[11:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- ok, so what command did you type, and what error message are you getting
[11:36] <boyke> i've tried to install java almost for 5 hours
[11:37] <boyke> i use add/remove program
[11:37] <boyke> i choose internet
[11:37] <boyke> an sun java
[11:37] <bbm4n> _4strO: where are kde logs located? i could try and check if there are any error messages or something...
[11:38] <_4strO> bbm4n: /var/log
[11:38] <sivaji> dettoaltriment : thank u very much
[11:38] <bbm4n> thanks :)
[11:38] <nbcb> how to connect mplayer to localhost:8901 ?
[11:38] <nbcb> to stream it
[11:38] <boyke> error commiting changes posibly there was  a problem downloading some packages
[11:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> bbm4n- you could try in /var/log, the xorg logs (X windows)
[11:39] <boyke> or the commit would break packages.
[11:39] <litropy> still getting the white screen with cursor even with all visua;l effects off
[11:39] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_ ^^^
[11:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- go to the terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-bin'
[11:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> and tell me what errors you get
[11:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy do you have beryl or compiz installed?
[11:40] <litropy> both, dettoaltrimenti_
[11:40] <litropy> kde is my default and my backup
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- do you want them? I personally don't use either
[11:41] <boyke> wow you are great
[11:41] <boyke> it worked
[11:41] <boyke> thanks
[11:41] <litropy> beryl or compiz? yes.
[11:41] <litropy> beryl is the reason why I'm getting the whoite screen
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> no problem boyke- I would suggest using the program Adept, instead of add/remove programs- it's better
[11:42] <boyke> ok
[11:42] <boyke> tks
[11:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- in the terminal, type in 'cat /etc/xorg.conf' and tell me what the last section is
[11:43] <boyke> i open java.com and verivy my installation
[11:43] <boyke> it come up with this message
[11:43] <boyke> You do NOT have the latest version of Java software.
[11:43] <boyke> The latest version of Java software = Java Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 1
[11:43] <boyke> oops
[11:43] <boyke> sorry flooding
[11:44] <iLeana> I boot in initramfs after updtate ... where do I take it hrom here ?
[11:44] <boyke> what should i do?
[11:45] <litropy> dettoaltrimenti_: no such file or directory
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- are you trying to get java for a specific website, or program?
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy yeah sorry, I forgot where the file is, one sec
[11:45] <boyke> website
[11:45] <Vedo> hi
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- go to the website and it should say that you need the java plugin- if you're using feisty, and using firefox, you should be able to install it from there just like if you were in windows
[11:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> hi Vedo
[11:47] <boyke> what should i choose linux rpm or self extracting?
[11:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy after that, also in terminal type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me if it says Yes or No
[11:48] <Vedo> i've try to upgrade my distro (6.10) to new kubuntu 7.04 but upgrade tool crashed
[11:48] <Vedo> there are solution
[11:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo can you still log onto the computer
[11:49] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: you are italian?
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo in terminal type 'lsb_release -a' and tell me if it says you're running feisty... no, I'm russian, but I thought this was a nice name
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> boyke- self extracting
[11:51] <boyke> ok i try now
[11:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo you there?
[11:52] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: the output from lsb_release  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17189/
[11:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo ok before it crashed, it basically installed most of Feisty. Do you use Adept to install programs? is this your first time using kubuntu?
[11:55] <iLeana> I boot in initramfs after updtate ... where do I take it hrom here ?
[11:56] <Eyeless> how do i set the default soundcard (asoundconf seems not to work very well for me)
[11:56] <Vedo> use ubuntu - kubuntu  by 6.06 but it's the firt time i've do distro upgrade
[11:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- Kmenu- system config- sound system- hardware
[11:57] <litropy> same place as last time. did you get that cat path, dettoaltrimenti_?
[11:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo ok in terminal type 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and put in the pastebin please
[11:58] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: and then?
[11:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy sorry I didn't get it- in terminal type 'glxinfo | grep direct' and tell me what it says
[11:58] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: i can select soundsystem there, but how do i go about to set the default soundcard
[12:00] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_change_default_soundcard tell me if that helps
[12:00] <Eyeless> will do, thanks
[12:00] <litropy> direct rendering: No
[12:00] <litropy> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:00] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: asoundconf does not work :/
[12:00] <_4strO> litropy: wich type of video card ?
[12:01] <_4strO> nvidia or ATI ?
[12:01] <litropy> nvidia geforce fx 5200
[12:01] <litropy> 128M
[12:01] <_4strO> cant help sorry
[12:01] <Vedo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17191/
[12:01] <_4strO> never try on a box with nvidia
[12:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok litropy- in terminal type 'kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and add to the bottom "Section "Extensions"" and under that "Option "Composite" "Enable"" then under that "EndSection"
[12:02] <cesarb> http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/knetworkmanager/knetworkmanager_0.1-0ubuntu12_i386.deb is a broken file (full of zeroes), should I report on launchpad or will rsync take care of it next time the mirror is updated?
[12:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy- then save, and ctrl-alt backspace to restart X
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> litropy and sorry, leave out the outmost quotes, but include all other quotes I wrote
[12:03] <litropy> k
[12:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- are you getting error messages with asoundconf?
[12:03] <_4strO> cesarb: think you have to wait
[12:04] <_4strO> many people seems to have pb with wireless and knetworkmanager so think thez are working on it
[12:04] <litropy> k dettoaltrimenti_ brb then
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless- put the errors in the pastebin so I can see them
[12:05] <Eyeless> dettoaltrimenti_: nope, it just does what its told, and quits silently
[12:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> Eyeless so did you do it then restart and see if it worked?
[12:05] <Eyeless> only that when i reboot, it stil uses my built in soundcard as default
[12:06] <Vedo> dettoaltrimenti_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17191/
[12:06] <_4strO> Vedo: there is no error here
[12:06] <Eyeless> if i boot into windows first it uses my  SBLive sometimes which is weird
[12:08] <_StefanS_> hi there
[12:08] <Eyeless> im currently trying this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410263 , well see if it works
[12:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> Vedo- you have feisty, tcongratulazioni
[12:09] <_4strO> Eyeless: if you want desactivate your onboard sound card, do it in the BIOS setting
[12:09] <_4strO> Vedo: lsb_release -a to be sure :)