[09:42] <godtvisken> Slart: yeah. maybe i need to change something in alsamixer or in the sound configuration (system -> prefs -> sound?)
[09:43] <Slart> godtvisken: I'm not sure.. I've never heard of anyone getting your kind of errors just because the mixer settings aren't correct.. you usually just end up with no signal from the mic or something like that
[09:43] <krinns> hi all
[09:43] <krinns> am not getting GUI
[09:43] <krinns> confd (admin-5205): starting (version 2.14.0), pid 5205 user 'admin'
[09:43] <krinns> what this mean
[09:44] <godtvisken> Slart: well, would it matter if i tried another recording program?
[09:45] <Slart> godtvisken: I wouldn't think so.. but why not try.. it would at least confirm that it's alsa being stubborn and not audacity
[09:45] <laneesh-k> mnnmbn
[09:46] <godtvisken> Slart: clicking record in GNUsound just made X crash apparently
[09:46] <laneesh-k> how to install 3d chess
[09:46] <tatters> I got 3 files in folder, main.c, c source file and a .h header file , how do I run run or compile this ?
[09:47] <Slart> godtvisken: ouch.. perhaps you need a reboot... just to get things reset (sorry to offer such a windows-based solution =)
[09:47] <godtvisken> Slart: heh, yeah. should i do anything else in the process?
[09:47] <Slart> godtvisken: I can't think of anything else at the moment
[09:47] <Frogzoo> !compile > tatters
[09:47] <godtvisken> Slart: ok. brb then
[09:48] <neoice> is there a pageup command from the Ubuntu server shell?
[09:49] <rausb0> neoice: pageup command?
[09:49] <neoice> like if I'm viewing a directory with more files that fit my screen
[09:49] <neoice> is there like a ls pause command or a scroll up/down
[09:49] <rausb0> neoice: just pipe the command output to less
[09:49] <rausb0> neoice: like this: ls | less
[09:50] <neoice> and less appears to truncate and hold the data until I press enter
[09:50] <neoice> neato
[09:50] <rausb0> neoice: you can quit less by pressing q
[09:50] <rausb0> neoice: you can use cursor up/down keys too
[09:51] <neoice> well now I'm not crazy then... wheres my httpd?
[09:51] <crdlb> and you can search with /
[09:51] <chico``_> :)
[09:51] <rausb0> neoice: huh? httpd is a process, not a file
[09:52] <neoice> but isnt there an httpd FILE that I use to start the httpd process?
[09:52] <tatters> Frogzoo:  there is no make file or ./configure option just 3 files main,source and header so not sure what to do with those.
[09:52] <chico``_> neoice: apache puts a script in /etc/init.d to control the server
[09:52] <rausb0> neoice: are you sure you're in the right directory?
[09:52] <neoice> because it doesnt auto run and I've tried reading through the apache docs to start it
[09:53] <chico``_> neoice: /etc/init.d/apache start
[09:53] <chico``_> neoice: or /etc/init.d/apache2 start depending on which version you have installed
[09:53] <rausb0> neoice: read what chico``_ said, you don't start httpd directly
[09:53] <tatters> Anyone got a abit kv8 pro found a suitable uguru replacement?
[09:54] <chico``_> neoice: you can start it directly from /usr/sbin but there's not much point to that
[09:54] <krinns> hi all
[09:54] <krinns> am not going to start my ubuntu machine
[09:54] <rausb0> tatters: what are the names of the .c files?
[09:54] <krinns> when i start machine it ask for runlevel
[09:54] <sjapbnc5> Anyone can help me with my mic?
[09:54] <krinns> whats this
[09:54] <Julius> hi... anyone know how I could go about finding the pci slot version  on a motherboard?
[09:54] <krinns> any idea
[09:54] <sjapbnc5> i can hear my self
[09:55] <sjapbnc5> on my headset
[09:55] <sjapbnc5> i cant mute it either
[09:55] <tatters> rausb0: main.c ,openguru.c and openguru.h
[09:56] <Radian1> How do I open my source list?
[09:56] <rausb0> tatters: gcc -c openguru.c ; gcc -c main.c ; gcc -o openguru main.o openguru.o
[09:57] <Radian1> Can anyone tell me how to access my source.list?
[09:58] <rausb0> tatters: maybe you have to give some -lLIBNAME options to the last gcc command. i don't know openguru so i can't tell which libs it needs.
[09:58] <sascham83> Radian1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <Radian1> Thanks, sas.
[09:59] <sascham83> np ;-)
[09:59] <Radian1> sascham83: Oh. Problem. It says Permission Denied. What do I do?
[10:00] <sascham83> Radian1: that's funny, i can access it.... how are you trying it? with nano or vi or gedit?
[10:00] <Madpilot> Radian1, type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:00] <Madpilot> you need "sudo" in front, because that's a system file
[10:00] <tatters> rausb0: thnx its doing something now at least ,so I got something to work on now, what sort of compiling is this, I assumed all compilng was done with make?
[10:01] <sascham83> Madpilot: why can i access it without sudo?
[10:01] <Radian1> Madpilot:  Thank you very much.
[10:02] <rausb0> tatters: make is not the compiler, gcc is. but make is the tool for managing more complex source trees, keeping track of dependecies of source files and which file is changed and has to be recompiled
[10:02] <Madpilot> sascham83, you probably have read-only access? gedit will open it w/o sudo, but you can't save it
[10:02] <rausb0> tatters: so make reads the Makefile and calls gcc accordinly
[10:03] <sascham83> yes, that's possible
[10:03] <sjapbnc5> Can anybody help me
[10:03] <sjapbnc5> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451492
[10:03] <sjapbnc5> with this
[10:03] <sjapbnc5> its a big problem atm for me :*
[10:03] <sivaji> ple tell me package name for chess game
[10:04] <Madpilot> sascham83, if you do "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" it should show [Read Only]  alongside the filename in gedit's top bar
[10:04] <rausb0> !info xboard
[10:04] <ubotu> xboard: An X Window System Chess Board. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.7-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 505 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[10:04] <sascham83> Madpilot: yes, it does :-)
[10:04] <maarten> sivaji: apt-cache search chess
[10:05] <sascham83> Madpilot: thx for the info
[10:05] <Madpilot> sascham83, no problem
[10:05] <DarthShrine> How does one type with accents?
[10:05] <mwe> press the accent then a letter
[10:06] <maarten> DarthShrine: you could use deadkeys, or use some compose key.
[10:06] <DarthShrine> Deadkeys?
[10:06] <RAOF> Madpilot, Radian1: You should use "gksudo" rather than "sudo" when running graphical programs.  You'll have less problems (sometimes sudo can mess with graphical apps)
[10:06] <krinns> helo
[10:06] <krinns> any idea
[10:06] <Madpilot> RAOF, true. Good point.
[10:06] <krinns> my ubuntu machine wont start
[10:07] <maarten> DarthShrine: with deadkeys, the accent-keys itself will not give any output until you press the second character that goes with it.
[10:07] <rausb0> tatters: i looked at the openguru source. what is uGuru anyway, is it abit specific?
[10:07] <krinns> it hangs on mounting root file system
[10:07] <DarthShrine> maarten, Oh yes, I know what you're talking about now. How do I get that?
[10:07] <tatters> rausb0:  thnx for info and help , I ran command and it appears to have built a binary
[10:07] <maarten> DarthShrine: with a special compose key, this will only by like that if you press the accent key in combination with the compose key
[10:08] <DarthShrine> maarten, Yeah, I'm familiar with that way as well.
[10:08] <maarten> DarthShrine: if you only use accents occasionally, the compose key is the best solution.
[10:08] <tatters> rausb0: yup its abits uguru motherboard monitor and tweaker
[10:08] <krinns> it says no inittab file foung enter runlevel
[10:08] <DarthShrine> maarten, Well, it'll only be to type up this French thing I guess.
[10:08] <rausb0> tatters: okay
[10:09] <maarten> DarthShrine: i have in my System/Keyboard Preference/Layout Options: Compose Key Position: Right Alt is Compose
[10:09] <hilts50> Any one have the low down on how to make a bootable copy of my install?
[10:09] <maarten> DarthShrine: so, I press Right-Alt + ' , followed by an e, and I get
[10:09] <DarthShrine> maarten, Awesome, thanks.
[10:13] <happytron> need help: my internet is constantly crapping out, aborting tcp connections and such.  restarting the networking helps for a little while.  any clues?
[10:13] <Chousuke> broken router/nic/isp?
[10:14] <happytron> i'm on a lan in my office at a college.  my officemates aren't having any problems
[10:14] <Chousuke> might be your nic then
[10:14] <hilts50> happytron: wireless or networked?
[10:14] <happytron> wired
[10:15] <Chousuke> laptop?
[10:15] <haptiK> hello
[10:15] <happytron> desktop.  my nic is onboard...
[10:15] <Chousuke> hmm
[10:15] <avis> in gnome i am unable to get a 1280x1024 resolution despite the fact that i have a 7100GS geforce
[10:15] <haptiK> I am looking for a decent PHP IDE for linux.  Could someone suggest something?
[10:16] <Chousuke> happytron: I can't make a better guess, but you could try installing another nic. Or change the cable :)
[10:16] <happytron> yeah, the cable seems secure, and the lights blink and all... even when it seems that I don't have connectivity
[10:17] <gentoo> good morning everyone
[10:17] <Chousuke> happytron: you could also test with a livecd
[10:17] <tiddi> morning gentoo
[10:17] <Chousuke> happytron: to see that it isn't a software problem
[10:17] <gentoo> I am currently in the process of testing out gentoo
[10:17] <happytron> yeah, i'll try that
[10:17] <gentoo> ubuntu is the lust of all linux program
[10:17] <godtvisken> Slart: hm.. same problem. not sure what to do
[10:17] <lethal_protector> avis: What drivers are you using?
[10:17] <chuck`_> is UNIX authentication enabled by default when starting pure-ftpd?
[10:17] <gentoo> whats the problem I may be able to show concernt
[10:17] <happytron> do you know are there any system resources that might be being consumed, thats preventing the kernel from servicing some network connections?
[10:18] <Chousuke> shouldn't be
[10:18] <Slart> godtvisken: what was the error message when selecting the audio device in audacity
[10:18] <feenster> Hi all. I'm setting Ubuntu up and using an Adaptec 3805 SATA RAID card to store my data on (in RAID-5). It is currently running at 1TB of storage, but i'll be expanding it in th near future. How should I set this up in Ubuntu? Can i just format it as a normal EXT3 volume, then resize it at a later date?
[10:18] <Chousuke> happytron: run dmesg in a console and see if there are any suspicious messages
[10:18] <Radian1> How do install Compiz in Ubuntu?
[10:18] <Slart> godtvisken: and is there anything in /var/log/syslog when you select it in audacity
[10:18] <Slart> Radian1: in feisty?
[10:18] <ompaul> !nickspam
[10:18] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[10:18] <Blackl33t> Can u help me with this file please ? http://www.unbase.com/n/4267606248 , its showing up missing "source.i" :??
[10:19] <Slart> Radian1: I think it's already installed in feisty
[10:19] <Radian1> Slart:  I think so. I've got 7.04
[10:19] <Slart> Radian1: that's feisty, yes... it's called "Desktop effects"
[10:19] <Slart> Radian1: in system, preferences
[10:19] <Radian1> Slart:  How come I can't install Compiz themes?
[10:20] <tondar> hey all
[10:20] <tondar> any ps2 emulators for ubuntu?
[10:20] <Slart> Radian1: I have no idea.. I haven't tried myself.. how are you trying to install them?
[10:20] <Radian1> Slart:  Dragging them to the Theme window.
[10:20] <chuck`_> tondar : ps2 emulators barely even function for windows
[10:21] <chuck`_> tondar : unless you consider getting 1-5FPS on almost all games "functional" :)
[10:21] <tondar> chuck`_: yeah thats y I asked :)
[10:21] <Slart> Radian1: theme window? where is this theme window?
[10:21] <Tarkus> is it possible to make all the icons on the desktop the same size? instead of having to manually stretch each icon?
[10:21] <neoice> is it easy to use a flashdrive from ubuntu server CLI or should I just burn a CD?
[10:21] <crdlb> Radian1: you can only use regular gnome themes with compiz
[10:21] <crdlb> (metacity themes)
[10:21] <Radian1> Slart: They've got a weird format, though. "cqwdtheme"
[10:22] <Slart> neoice: all my flashdrives are recognized and mounted automatically.. cli or gui
[10:22] <crdlb> Radian1: those are not compiz themes
[10:22] <crdlb> they are themes for the predecessor to emerald
[10:22] <crdlb> Radian1: there is a special version of emerald available that supports compiz
[10:23] <Radian1> Slart:  What's that?
[10:23] <Slart> Radian1: look at crdlb's answers.. he seems to know what he's talking about =) I've never used themes in compiz
[10:23] <Tarkus> is it possible to make all the icons on the desktop the same size? instead of having to manually stretch each icon?
[10:24] <picosam> hello all; how can I get a ~/.fonts directory?
[10:24] <picosam> as in, how can I configure fontconfig to allow private fonts?
[10:24] <Radian1> crdlb: How can I get Emerald then?
[10:24] <iwanvosloo_>  /msg nickserv link iwanvosloo
[10:24] <crdlb> Radian1: it would be a lot easier to just use beryl
[10:25] <Radian1> crdlb: Oooh, that...
[10:25] <crdlb> Radian1: sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes
[10:25] <Tarkus> crdlb, what do you recommend? XGL or Aiglx? cause i have issues with both. 2 different issues mind you.
[10:25] <Radian1> crdlb:  I'm guessing I should type that in the Terminal.
[10:26] <chuck`_> could someone link me to an online guide that I can follow step-by-step for upgrading the kernel?
[10:26] <crdlb> Radian1: yep
[10:26] <crdlb> Tarkus: well it depends on the video card
[10:26] <Tarkus> Nvidia Geforce 7800GT
[10:26] <neoice> so after plugging in the flashdrive it will be where?
[10:26] <leStat666> chuck`_,  ?? u mean to feisty from edgey?
[10:27] <crdlb> Tarkus: kind of a hard decision on that card
[10:27] <crdlb> it should perform fine with either
[10:27] <chuck`_> leStat666 : no, I mean the kernel... from 2.6.20-15 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:27] <chuck`_> leStat666 : feisty to edgy would be a downgrade, too, FYI
[10:27] <Slart> neoice: /media/something
[10:27] <picosam> so you guys can anyone please tell me how to configure fontconfig to allow private fonts (or how can I achieve a ~/.fonts directory)?
[10:28] <chuck`_> Oh nevermind I read that backwards
[10:28] <Slart> picosam: I have no idea, sorry
[10:28] <chuck`_> haha
[10:28] <leStat666> err i said to fiesty from edgey
[10:28] <leStat666> :P
[10:28] <chuck`_> I noticed
[10:28] <chuck`_> :]
[10:28] <chuck`_> dyslexia
[10:28] <leStat666> hehe
[10:28] <rage_ext> I wounder if there might come a fix for brightness controll thru Fn+(Decrease brightness) for Lenovo Thinkpad x60?
[10:28] <Tarkus> aiglx comes with my restricted drivers i think.. and when i use that (gnome session), then all the effects are kind of laggy. (slow fps). but when i use XGL session, then it runs amazingly smooth (fast fps), but i get these wierd lines that look like its redrawing horizontally in certain places, it chops up the motion, and it happens in everything, all the effects, in video files, pretty much anything in movement.
[10:28] <IndyGunFreak> leStat666: why do you think edgy to feisty is a downgrade?
[10:29] <leStat666> um
[10:29] <leStat666> i didnt?
[10:29] <leStat666> say that
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> thought you did, my bad
[10:29] <leStat666> lol
[10:29] <Slart> it's to early in the morning for irc =)
[10:29] <leStat666> man am i writing invisible code that i cant see?
[10:30] <rage_ext> moore coffe?
[10:30] <chuck`_> should I be downloading the full kernel off kernel.org or just the patch?
[10:30] <Tarkus> crdlb, aiglx comes with my restricted drivers i think.. and when i use it (gnome session), then all the effects are kind of laggy. (slow fps). but when i use XGL session, then it runs amazingly smooth (fast fps), but i get these wierd lines that look like its redrawing horizontally in certain places, it chops up the motion, and it happens in everything, all the effects, in video files, pretty much anything in movement.
[10:30] <picosam> okay can anyone please take a look at the bash script at http://plasmasturm.org/code/vistafonts-installer/vistafonts-installer and tell me why I'm getting this error when trying to execute it: "24: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[10:31] <varka> [10:27]     <leStat666>edgy to feisty is a downgrade
[10:31] <crdlb> Tarkus: upgrade to nvidia-glx-new if you aren't using it
[10:31] <leStat666> chuck`_, : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428845&highlight=kernal+upgrade
[10:31] <Slart> picosam: tried running it with bash?
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[10:31] <leStat666> varka, haha
[10:31] <Tarkus> i upgraded yesterday using that command.
[10:31] <leStat666> sure
[10:31] <fotf> Ugh, I don't think I like fiesty too much
[10:31] <leStat666> i never said that
[10:31] <picosam> umm... no, how? bash [scriptname]  ?
[10:31] <Slart> picosam: yes
[10:31] <shadeofgrey> i REALLY want to start dual booting ubuntu and macosx on my macbookpro
[10:32] <chuck`_> leStat666 : thanks
[10:32] <leStat666> sure
[10:32] <leStat666> np
[10:32] <Slart> picosam: if it's designed for bash you usually get weird errors like that
[10:32] <shadeofgrey> can it be done without buying parallels?
[10:32] <picosam> yeah thanks that worked; now the first problem again; it can't find a ~/.fonts directory
[10:32] <Tarkus> crdlb, im using the latest drivers, upgraded yesterday.
[10:32] <picosam> I wish I would know where fontconfig keeps it's configuration files :S
[10:32] <Slart> picosam: tried creating it? mkdir .fonts ?
[10:32] <chuck`_> well that didn't do much
[10:32] <hilts50> Shadefgrey: yes you can do it with out parralells.
[10:32] <crdlb> Tarkus: and you had the problem with nvidia-glx too?
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> hilts50, is it complicated as hell?
[10:33] <picosam> I could do that, but I'm afraid it requires more than this to tell fontconfig that this directory is the one that contains the privately installed fonts
[10:33] <Tarkus> crdlb, what is nvidia-glx?
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> hilts50, and am i putting my main osx partition in harms way?
[10:33] <crdlb> Tarkus: the regular version
[10:33] <Tarkus> aiglx?
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> wellwait a sec
[10:33] <crdlb> what the restricted manager installs
[10:33] <Slart> picosam: why not give it a try.. it's easy to remove the folder again if it doesn't work
[10:33] <hilts50> Shadeofgrey: not too bad.  I have it pretty much figured out now.  Done it twice in the last week.
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> im drunning a macbookprop
[10:33] <fotf> Hey, can someone help me fix my Package manager? When I try to edit my repositories to make my MP3s work, this appears: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22114/
[10:33] <picosam> Slart: you're right
[10:33] <Tarkus> crdlb, yes, but its a diferent problem than if i use XGL session.
[10:33] <shadeofgrey> hilts50, can we speak in private then?
[10:33] <hilts50> Shadeofgrey: sure
[10:35] <shadeofgrey> hilts50, can you see my messagwes?
[10:35] <hilts50> Shadeofgrey: yes.
[10:35] <shadeofgrey> in the querty windowe?
[10:35] <hilts50> let me make sure Im registered by the nickserv
[10:35] <Gumby> fotf: you could remove that package and then continue
[10:36] <shadeofgrey> okay
[10:36] <shadeofgrey> you need to be or i cangt send yuo private messages'
[10:36] <Tarkus> crdlb, with nvidia-glx. its just laggy for some reason. my friend has a 64MB integrated intel video. and it runs amazingly fast compared to mine, and im using a 256MB 7800GT card... doesnt make sense to me.
[10:36] <fotf> Gumby: How would I do that? Forgive my newbieness, I installed ubuntu a week ago
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[10:36] <Gumby> fotf: oops, I misread the output.   it looks like wherever you got that package from no longer has it.  or maybe you added that package manually...
[10:37] <crdlb> Tarkus: the nvidia drivers are much worse than the intel drivers sadly
[10:37] <fotf> Gumby: It was a debian file
[10:37] <crdlb> particularly the texture_from_pixmap implementation
[10:37] <thedonvaughn> Tarkus, are you using the closed source drivers?  nvidia runs great on my machine
[10:37] <Gumby> fotf: its not wise to just go adding packages from other distros.  it can screw up apt as you've found out
[10:38] <Tarkus> thedonvaughn, im using the ones that install with restricted drivers.. not sure if those are open/closed..
[10:38] <fotf> Other distros?
[10:38] <crdlb> Tarkus: try: rm ~/.beryl-managerrc
[10:38] <fotf> So, don't dl anymore .deb files?
[10:38] <thedonvaughn> Tarkus, ok so your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the "Driver" section shows "nvidia" and not "nv" ?
[10:38] <Gumby> ubuntu is not debian and debian is not ubuntu
[10:38] <avis> i just hooked up a 40 gig drive to backup my windows data and want to know how to mount it so i can mount it after a reinstllation of ubuntu
[10:38] <avis> its an atapi drive
[10:38] <Tarkus> crdlb, im only using compiz. not beryl
[10:38] <fotf> Oh crap, so how can I manually remove it?
[10:38] <avis> i dont know what its /dev/hdx is
[10:38] <crdlb> Tarkus: oh really?
[10:39] <crdlb> have you tried beryl?
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> avis, you can find out by issuing "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal
[10:39] <Gumby> fotf: sudo apt-get remove virtualbox
[10:39] <avis> thank you
[10:39] <Tarkus> crdlb, yes, it runs slower (more laggy)
[10:39] <leStat666> is new Nvidia driver out?
[10:39] <crdlb> leStat666: there's a beta driver (released a while ago actually)
[10:39] <thedonvaughn> beryl runs great on my nvidia ubuntu-amd64 install.  However I do use AIGLX, and not Nvidia's direct rendering.  I get much better results.
[10:39] <Tarkus> crdlb, although i havent tried beryl with XGL, only tried it with nvidia-glx.
[10:39] <crdlb> that adds support for the 8xxx line
[10:40] <leStat666> im runnng GLX
[10:40] <Tarkus> thedonvaughn, let me check.
[10:40] <leStat666> i think
[10:40] <crdlb> Tarkus: beryl+Xgl rarely works well
[10:40] <fotf> It says it needs to be reinstalled, but it can't find an archive
[10:40] <johns^> fotf: dpkg -r virtualbox/
[10:40] <johns^> no / :)
[10:41] <Gumby> fotf: try sudo dpkg -r virtualbox
[10:41] <neoice> mount /media/cdrom/ isnt working, is that not the correct command?
[10:41] <Tarkus> thedonvaughn, there is no "Driver" section in my xorg.conf..
[10:41] <thedonvaughn> leStat666, if you right click on beryl-manager->advanced beryl options->render plantform i have set to "Force AIGLX".  I had to manually edit my xorg.conf however to use AIGLX with nvidia
[10:41] <thedonvaughn> Tarkus, sorry "Device" section
[10:41] <johns^> neoice: remove the last /
[10:42] <fotf> I got another error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22116/
[10:42] <Tarkus> thedonvaughn, yes it shows "nvidia"
[10:42] <leStat666> AIGLX?
[10:42] <riaal_> !multivers
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <neoice> johns: doent work either, I'd hit that varient already
[10:42] <Grummus> !multiverse
[10:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:43] <johns^> neoice: what does it say?
[10:43] <thedonvaughn> Tarkus, hrm, yah you're using nvidia closed source.  Mine runs great... weird
[10:43] <riaal_> Grummus, cheers =)
[10:43] <Grummus> :)
[10:43] <Gumby> fotf: try dpkg -P virtualbox
[10:43] <johns^> fotf: sudo dpkg --force -r virtualbox  ?
[10:43] <neoice> johns^: mount: no medium found
[10:43] <thedonvaughn> leStat666, yup I use that to render.  I get much better results... my nvidia card sometimes shows distroted windows if i do not.
[10:43] <johns^> neoice: no cd in it
[10:43] <johns^> 2 drives/
[10:43] <leStat666> AIGLX is a new driver??
[10:43] <neoice> CD is in, 2nd drive is unplugged
[10:43] <leStat666> i have GLX v 1.4
[10:43] <JinRoh> Hello, I can't watch videos with Subtitles in TOTEM media player :(
[10:44] <neoice> (to eliminate these troubles ;) )
[10:44] <Gumby> fotf: if you have the virtualbox .deb on your hard drive still try installing again.  sudo apt-get install /path/to/file.deb
[10:44] <fotf> Gumby, same error, I'm trying your meathod now john
[10:44] <crdlb> leStat666: err no you have nvidia-glx
[10:44] <fotf> l
[10:44] <fotf> k
[10:44] <leStat666> hehe i have nfi
[10:44] <leStat666> all i know is that it works
[10:45] <Tarkus> is it possible to make all the icons on the desktop the same size? instead of having to manually stretch each icon?
[10:45] <JinRoh> Hello, I can't watch videos with Subtitles in TOTEM media player :(
[10:45] <picosam> I have a built-in Intel video card; how do I know how much shared memory is available to it ?
[10:45] <fotf> I think I'll just do a fresh install on my secondary HD and retreive my data
[10:45] <thedonvaughn> Tarkus, most icon themes keep icons the same size.  Little confused on your question.
[10:46] <Gumby> fotf: nonsense!!  you dont learn anything that way :)
[10:46] <cion> how do I add user to plugdev group?
[10:46] <fotf> I learned not to use .deb files :P
[10:46] <thedonvaughn> picosam, you might be able to set it in BIOS.  Other than that, good question :)
[10:46] <neoice> john^: disc in there, only 1 cd drive
[10:46] <thedonvaughn> fotf, well Ubuntu is built off of .deb packaging.. the key is to only use .deb packages officially released from Ubuntu's repos though :)
[10:46] <picosam> no what I meant to say was: how do I know the Videoram line that I have in xorg.conf really is respected?
[10:47] <thedonvaughn> fotf, and recommend to use apt
[10:47] <Tarkus> thedonvaughn, some of my icons are big, and some are small. and i need to resize them all the be the size i want.. is there just a way to make all of them strech to a certain size?
[10:47] <Gumby> fotf: but thre is so much more to learn :)
[10:47] <CroX> Could someone recommend an open archive/compression format?
[10:47] <crdlb> picosam: look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:47] <crdlb> CroX: tar.bz2
[10:47] <picosam> crdlb: thanks ;)
[10:47] <PrimoTurbo> Where do I put the crusor theme for xubuntu?
[10:47] <CroX> crdlb: Right. Anything that windowsers could access easily?
[10:48] <Gumby> CroX: tar, zip,
[10:48] <CroX> Gumby: I thought those were proprietary?
[10:48] <Gumby> CroX: windows users can easily use tar/tar.gz with winrar
[10:48] <fotf> Wait a sec!!! It says on the site I downloaded it for the fiesty host, here's the site http://www.virtualbox.org/
[10:48] <crdlb> CroX: winzip can open tar.gz and tar.bz2
[10:48] <PrimoTurbo> In regular GNOME where is the crusor theme installed?
[10:48] <cion> how do i add a user to plugdev group?
[10:48] <Enverex> I'm having a nightmare getting DVDs to play. Totem, MPlayer and VLC won't play them and I've installed all the DVD libs and libcss. Is there anything else I'm likely to be missing?
[10:48] <CroX> Alright. Thanks alot!
[10:49] <crimsun> cion: sudo adduser foo plugdev
[10:49] <picosam> by the way, does a log file parser exist (like a GUI tool that analyses these log files and displays information in a report-style manner)?
[10:49] <crdlb> bz2 is better commression than gz
[10:49] <crdlb> but it uses more CPU
[10:49] <Moduliz0r> rar sucks
[10:49] <cion> crimsun: foo is username?
[10:49] <crimsun> cion: yes.
[10:49] <thedonvaughn> !restricted
[10:49] <cion> crimsun: thx
[10:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <thedonvaughn> !restricted > enverex
[10:49] <Enverex> thedonvaughn, Done all those. Anything else?
[10:50] <thedonvaughn> are you receiving any error messages?
[10:50] <Radiant> How do I use the Emerald theme manager? Am I supposed to just click on the theme and it'll change? If that's how it works, then it's not working. Help would be appreciated.
[10:50] <CroX> bz2 it is then, with zip as backup for those inept.
[10:50] <crdlb> Radiant: you're using beryl now?
[10:50] <cables> Why did the "Eject" option in the USB drive context menu just change to Unmount Volume?
[10:50] <fotf> Are there any open source Windows Emulation software out there?
[10:50] <Radiant> crdlb: Yes. Supposedly.
[10:50] <cables> !wine | fotf
[10:50] <ubotu> fotf: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:50] <crdlb> Radiant: is select window decorator set to emerald?
[10:51] <fotf> I need one with a GUI
[10:51] <crdlb> in the jewel menu
[10:51] <fotf> Besides, WINE stands for Wine is not an emulator
[10:51] <Radiant> crdlb: Standard Beryl Decorator (Emerald)?
[10:51] <cables> fotf, it's the only one out there.
[10:51] <crdlb> Radiant: that's it
[10:51] <Enverex> theconartist, Yeah, VLC says "nothing to play!" in the terminal. Totem says "Seems encrypted, are you trying to play without libdvdcss"
[10:51] <cables> fotf, and it does have a gui configuration (run the command "winecfg")
[10:51] <Anathema> hello, im trying to install something, in the description it says i have to place the file in the kernel source folder, but where is it?
[10:51] <crdlb> Radiant: are you in Xgl?
[10:51] <Radiant> crdlb: Yes, it's selected
[10:52] <Radiant> crdlb:  Err... that is?
[10:52] <cables> fotf, it's not an emulator, it's a wrapper.
[10:52] <crdlb> Radiant: what video card?
[10:52] <Radiant> crdlb: No clue.
[10:52] <crdlb> Radiant: try hitting reload window decorator
[10:52] <crdlb> after changing the theme
[10:52] <Anathema> hello, im trying to install something, in the description it says i have to place the file in the kernel source folder, but where is it?
[10:52] <Radiant> crdlb:  Is that supposed to make it work?
[10:53] <Anathema> wheres the kernel source folder?
[10:53] <crdlb> Radiant: it's supposed to change automatically
[10:53] <crdlb> but since it's not, that's worth trying
[10:53] <cables> fotf ?
[10:53] <Radiant> crdlb:  It didn't do anything.
[10:53] <thedonvaughn> Anathema, /usr/src if you have it installed is the traditional place
[10:53] <fotf> I'm trying to figure out wine atm
[10:53] <Anathema> thanks thedonvaughn
[10:53] <cables> fotf, what would you like to know about it?
[10:53] <fotf> and I am also trying to remove virtualbox (I still don't get it)
[10:54] <cables> fotf, virtualbox will actually make a virtual computer. You need a copy of windows to install on that virtual computer.
[10:54] <fotf> Well, I would like to know how to start using it (Like build s c drive)
[10:54] <fotf> I have a copy of windows
[10:54] <timma> has anyone got a 7900gt with recent graphics drivers running on ubuntu - whenever i do it it crashed :S hawlp
[10:54] <cables> fotf, how much RAM do you have?
[10:54] <crdlb> Radiant: no idea then
[10:55] <fotf> I'm upgrading to a gig and 256 mb soon
[10:55] <Radiant> crdlb:  Is there any other settings I have to change to get it to work?
[10:55] <crdlb> Radiant: no
[10:55] <edfromballarat> hey all, just a quick question.  running Ubuntu Feisty with Sempron 3000 and nvidia FX series.  I DID have a 2800 and I swapped it for the 3000 and now when I use any 3d accelerated program there is weird lines and redraws.... any suggestions?
[10:55] <crdlb> it's /supposed/ to just work
[10:55] <crdlb> Radiant: what does: lspci|grep VGA
[10:55] <crdlb> say?
[10:55] <crdlb> in a terminal
[10:55] <PrimoTurbo> Can someone please help me? How do I install Cursors in xubuntu?
[10:56] <edfromballarat> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[10:56] <cables> fotf, that should be enough to run VirtualBox. The thing about VirtualBox is that since it actuall creates a virtual computer running Windows, it'll work with all Windows apps. The thing is, it'll be slower and require tons of RAM. Wine doesn't need any extra RAM, but doesn't work with everything.
[10:56] <Radiant> crdlb:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video (rev 01)
[10:56] <PrimoTurbo> Is there a directory I place them? Mouse settings has no way to import the crusors, please help :(
[10:56] <crdlb> Radiant: and compiz/beryl work at all?
[10:56] <fotf> cables: Can I just do a fresh install of Windows and install a windows virtualbox EXE to run Ubuntu?
[10:56] <timma> can anyone help me?
[10:56] <crdlb> that card isn't supported afaik
[10:56] <timma> with graphics drivers and installation
[10:56] <cables> fotf, yep, that would work.
[10:57] <Radiant> crdlb:  My card?
[10:57] <crdlb> Radiant: yes
[10:57] <edfromballarat> beryl works with occasional glitches, white lines running diagonally across the screen
[10:57] <fotf> cables: Cool! I'm doing this first thing in the morning
[10:57] <Radiant> crdlb: So that means I can't use it?
[10:57] <fotf> Well, I'm out, thanks everyone
[10:57] <crdlb> Radiant: unless you get a better card
[10:58] <timma> :S:S anyone?
[10:58] <Gumby> using windows to run ubuntu  LAME!!
[10:58] <Radiant> crdlb: Well, that was a total disappointment...
[10:58] <edfromballarat> yeah, but it was working fine with the 2800, thats all :-c
[10:58] <Radiant> crdlb:  Thanks for helping me, anyway.
[10:58] <timma> can anyone help me with graphics drivers and installation - 7900gt
[10:59] <PriceChild> timma, running feisty?
[10:59] <timma> PriceChild: yeh mate
[10:59] <kaiyilen> Hello! I'm trying to install my nvidia drivers but it says i need to get the libc header files. don't the libc files automatically come with the install?
[10:59] <crdlb> kaiyilen: nope
[10:59] <PriceChild> timma, system > admin > restricted drivers manager
[10:59] <crdlb> kaiyilen: but you should just use the packaged version
[10:59] <PriceChild> kaiyilen, you don't need to install the drivers that way
[11:00] <crdlb> kaiyilen: unless you have an 8xxx
[11:00] <PriceChild> kaiyilen, you can use ubuntu's packaeg
[11:00] <PriceChild> s
[11:00] <kaiyilen> for the drivers?
[11:00] <PriceChild> crdlb,
[11:00] <timma> PriceChild: Will they be good drivers for games etc ???
[11:00] <PriceChild> crdlb, nvidia-glx-new has drivers for the 8***
[11:00] <crdlb> PriceChild: only the 8800
[11:00] <chuck`_> how can I prevent a user in pure-ftpd from navigating to parent directories above their home directory?
[11:00] <crdlb> and last time I checked, it was broken
[11:00] <Frogzoo> kaiyilen: libc does, the headers don't - install build-essential
[11:00] <crdlb> the rest of the line needs that 100.x.x driver
[11:01] <timma> ????
[11:01] <PriceChild> crdlb, ah ok
[11:01] <PriceChild> timma, yes
[11:02] <timma> PriceChild:  Sweet thanks mate
[11:02] <Jenna_80> soo, I was burning a cd with gnomebaker and it gave me a funny error message
[11:03] <timma> is gnomebaker easy to use / nero like?
[11:03] <gregshallard> quit
[11:04] <Jenna_80> now I need to find a new cd-r to see if I can reproduce the error
[11:04] <timma> does anybody use ventrilo on wine and have sound working well?
[11:04] <Jenna_80> :-<
[11:05] <Enverex> I'm having a nightmare getting DVDs to play. Totem, MPlayer and VLC won't play them and I've installed all the DVD libs and libcss. Is there anything else I'm likely to be missing?
[11:05] <kaiyilen> Frogzoo: I just use apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:05] <timma> is vlc isnt playing it somethig is wrong
[11:05] <timma> it plays eveyrthing
[11:05] <timma> if*
[11:05] <Frogzoo> timma: just use k3b
[11:05] <lori> my system will not boot any longer... instead, i get this message after the boot splash: "unable to execute '/bin/sh' for rcS:no such file or directory"   please tell me that this is fixable...
[11:05] <timma> Frogzoo: ok
[11:06] <Frogzoo> lori: how did you manage that?
[11:06] <lori> i dont know
[11:06] <lori> i dont know anything about linux really...
[11:06] <Frogzoo> lori: quickest would be to reinstall you know
[11:06] <lori> i suspect it has to do with creating symlinks in terminal and trying to remove them...
[11:06] <Frogzoo> lori: I mean, for someone who doesn't know linux
[11:07] <Frogzoo> lori: removing things as root when you don't know what you're doing causes - this kind of stuff
[11:07] <lori> i see
[11:07] <timma> hehe
[11:07] <lori> well, it would be nice if i could keep my files
[11:07] <Frogzoo> lori: reinstall, & think of it as a learning experience
[11:08] <lori> i dont want to reinstall... i got beryl working perfeectly
[11:08] <leftcase> Hi, can anyone suggest a backup tool to backup a dapper server to a windows share ?
[11:08] <Frogzoo> lori: you can boot the cd live, & try to fix you file systems
[11:09] <rausb0> chuck`_: start pure-ftpd with option -a
[11:09] <lori> im afraid i dont even know what is wrong
[11:09] <Jenna_80> *sigh*
[11:09] <Jenna_80> no cd's left
[11:09] <chuck`_> rausb0 : thanks
[11:09] <Frogzoo> lori: there's almost no way to tell from here what you've done
[11:10] <lori> well, like i said, i removed symlinks that someone had me create in terminal so that i could accomplish compiling a program
[11:11] <eshaase> i'm interested in using LVM to combine two partitions on different drives to store all of my media but i'm cautious as to how reliable it is as i keep a large collection of things that I don't want to lose, is lvm pretty safe to use assuming that my hard drives don't fail or have bad blocks?
[11:11] <lori> so someting to the effect of 'sudo rm ls /bin/sh /bin/dash
[11:11] <mjr> Esha, you should indeed mostly worry about your hard driver
[11:12] <mjr> ves
[11:12] <Enverex> Are there any good Gnome bluetooth GUI apps out there?
[11:12] <nko> hi, i have a very big problem with my feisty: my gdm start but when start gnome-session i have this error: $ gnome-session
[11:12] <nko> gnome-session: error while loading shared libraries: ace: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:13] <chuck`_> how do I execute a file from a bash script?  do I just supply the full path to the file?  and does it need to be in quotes or ticks if I want to supply CL arguments?
[11:13] <nko> help me please
[11:13] <Frogzoo> lecter: you can use any of the backup tools to backup to a samba share
[11:13] <crdlb> chuck`_: yep just put the full path (or just the name if it's in the $PATH)
[11:13] <yobrien> chuck`_: its just like you where typing it on the command line ....
[11:13] <jxxxt> Chuck_: just type the name of the app you wish to start for example tuxpaint
[11:13] <rausb0> chuck`_: depends on whether the file is in a directory that is included in PATH or not. and you don't have to quote options.
[11:14] <chuck`_> kk
[11:14] <timma> after installing the restrcited driver for my graphics card i still cannot get a decent resolution can anyoen help?
[11:14] <Frogzoo> eshaase: LVM doesn't work that way - you need to have the LVM layer on the disk before you try to merge partitions
[11:14] <timma> refresh rate*
[11:15] <lori> is there really no way to fix  'sudo rm ls /bin/sh /bin/dash' ?
[11:15] <rausb0> chuck`_: however if one the the command line arguments in a filename with spaces, you have to quote the spaces
[11:15] <Frogzoo> lori: if that's the only thing you did, boot off the cd and someone will help you put the symlink back
[11:16] <jxxxt> lori: my guess is no!!
[11:16] <lori> okay, will any live cd work?
[11:16] <lori> i mean such as dapper or edgy?
[11:18] <Frogzoo> lori: the process is - mount your / fs on /mnt, then cd /mnt/bin ; ln -s dash sh
[11:18] <Frogzoo> lori: any live cd will work
[11:18] <Jenna_80> oh shoot.
[11:19] <Frogzoo> lori: copy this down, I won't be here "the process is - mount your / fs on /mnt, then cd /mnt/bin ; ln -s dash sh"
[11:19] <CarinArr> !paste
[11:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:20] <lori> thanks, frogzoo
[11:21] <CarinArr> I'm trying to mount a DVD that seems to work okay in windows, and i get the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22125/
[11:21] <CarinArr> can anyone tell me how i might fix this?
[11:22] <haptiK> can someone suggest an FTP CLIENT other than gFTP. the thing crashes on large downloads
[11:22] <Enverex> I'm having a nightmare getting DVDs to play. Totem, MPlayer and VLC won't play them and I've installed all the DVD libs and libcss. Is there anything else I'm likely to be missing?
[11:22] <rockbasil> does anyone know anything about lmsensors?
[11:23] <Frogzoo> !dvd
[11:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:23] <VoX> Enverex: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[11:23] <Enverex> VoX, already done it
[11:23] <Enverex> Frogzoo, Already been through those
[11:23] <VoX> o_O
[11:23] <yobrien> haptiK: how about the one in nautilus?
[11:24] <haptiK> yobrien: is nautilus the "explorer" type program?
[11:24] <Frogzoo> Enverex: w32codecs ?
[11:24] <yobrien> haptiK: yeah it can do ftp
[11:24] <rockbasil> can anyone help with some advanced battery management questions?
[11:25] <Frogzoo> !anyone > rockbasil
[11:25] <Enverex> Frogzoo, It's an x86_64 machine but I have w64codecs installed
[11:25] <kaiyilen> D:
[11:25] <jxxxt> Enverex I have te same problem on my acer laptop it will play 'free' dvd but not the commercial ones I did all the libs and stuff too
[11:25] <rockbasil> frogzoo: I am having some trouble with lm-sensors, any advice :)
[11:25] <AdvoWork> help :p i ran a query for postgresql, which sort of hung. so then i closed the terminal window, but it must be running somehow and its killing the connection. any ideas how i could stop this?
[11:26] <emile> what is a (linux/ubuntu) tool for xml editing and xslt transformations?
[11:26] <haptiK> yobrien: checking that now. thanks alot. i was installing filezilla because thats what ive been using on windows. but if its built into the filebrowser why not just use that... thanks ill check it out.
[11:26] <Enverex> Well this sucks
[11:26] <Frogzoo> Enverex: it's libdvdcss2 btw
[11:26] <Enverex> Frogzoo, Yeah, that's installed too
[11:26] <rockbasil> I am having problems with lm-sensors...any advice?
[11:27] <Frogzoo> Enverex: if you follow that guide, your dvd will work
[11:27] <Frogzoo> g2g
[11:27] <Enverex> Frogzoo, I have and it doesn't
[11:29] <rockbasil> I am trying to configure my battery consumption on my laptop and I want to know how much voltage my cpu/hard drive/ and fan consume.  How do I do this?
[11:30] <moDumass> hey all, has anyone installed "america`s army" because i would like to play it
[11:31] <haptiK> yobrien: wow. this lets me work on files locally directly on the remote machine via ftp. that is pretty slick. it actually just maps the ftp connection. that is fantastic. thanks a lot!
[11:31] <DavidHKMrPowers> how to pronounce ubuntu?
[11:31] <haptiK> ooohboontoo
[11:31] <haptiK> or oooboontoo its african
[11:32] <HeFFy> hello may i get some help?
[11:32] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that none of my usb devices are charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[11:32] <haptiK> ubuntu comes with a film starring nelson mandela. they pronounce it in that film DavidHKMrPowers
[11:33] <DavidHKMrPowers> haptiK :)  oo bon too ?   it's bon or bun ?
[11:33] <thedonvaughn> HeFFy, ask your question and if someone knows how to help you or has a suggestion they will speak up
[11:33] <HeFFy> when i try to install some files i get error saying "wrong architecture"
[11:33] <HeFFy> such as opera
[11:33] <HeFFy> or yafray
[11:33] <thedonvaughn> HeFFy, are yourunning amd64?
[11:33] <HeFFy> its in .deb
[11:34] <HeFFy> yeh
[11:34] <thedonvaughn> opera is only 32bit i believe
[11:34] <thedonvaughn> you need amd64 binaries
[11:34] <HeFFy> ooo >.>
[11:34] <thedonvaughn> not i386 or i686
[11:34] <HeFFy> darn
[11:34] <magnetron> HeFFy: or you need Ubuntu x86
[11:34] <x0x_> anyone?
[11:34] <magnetron> HeFFy: or a chroot jail
[11:34] <HeFFy> wat do u mean by chroot jail?
[11:35] <DavidHKMrPowers> haptiK and, which is the strong sound?  ooo, boon, too ?
[11:35] <magnetron> ubotu, tell HeFFy about flash64
[11:35] <HeFFy> thanks
[11:35] <haptiK> DavidHKMrPowers: watch that film i was referring to. It is in the Examples directory called Experience ubuntu.ogg
[11:36] <rockbasil> I am trying to configure my battery consumption on my laptop and I want to know how much voltage my cpu/hard drive/ and fan consume.  How do I do this?
[11:36] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that none of my usb devices are charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[11:37] <x0x_> if i do a while loop, and call lsusb, my phone will keep charging!! strange?
[11:39] <Grummus> x0x_, strange indeed :)
[11:39] <x0x_> any suggestions?
[11:39] <x0x_> only since i upgraded to feisty
[11:39] <rockbasil> I am trying to configure my battery consumption on my laptop and I want to know how much voltage my cpu/hard drive/ and fan consume.  How do I do this?
[11:39] <Lowe> x0x_: lsusb does not turn of the power of the usb-port
[11:39] <akaihol1> gs seems to eat lots more memory in Feisty than before, e.g. over 350M for a really simple ps2pdf job. I can't find any information about this, is it a known issue?
[11:39] <x0x_> and on my desktop, i did a fresh install, and the same problem
[11:39] <x0x_> Lowe: i know
[11:40] <DavidHKMrPowers> haptiK what is Examples directory?
[11:40] <x0x_> what im saying is when i plug my phone in, it charges for a second, then stops
[11:40] <dave66554> hey is anyone good at fixing soundisses?
[11:40] <Lowe> x0x_: sorry, didnt read the complete question
[11:40] <sipxnpy> hola
[11:40] <x0x_> then when i type lsusb it charges for a second, cos its obviously probing the device, then it stops again
[11:40] <x0x_> so i decided to call lsusb in a while loop, and the phone stays charging
[11:40] <Grummus> x0x_, i wonder that charging via usb worked in the first place
[11:41] <x0x_> well it worked in edgy fine
[11:41] <Frogzoo> !anyone > dave66554
[11:41] <sipxnpy> holaaaa
[11:41] <h4wk0> Whats better compiz or beryl?
[11:41] <picosam> would somebody please take a look at this and tell me what's wrong: http://paste.debian.net/28645 (it's my xorg log grepped to display only the I810 entries). My problem is even though 3d is enabled, windows and shadows on my desktop are very very slow; they tend to flicker horribly (video tearing) especially when I (for instance) choose log off or any other command that dims the screen
[11:42] <sipxnpy> como paso a canal espanol?
[11:42] <Frogzoo> picosam: grep also for EE & update paste
[11:42] <CheshireViking> !es | sipxnpy
[11:42] <ubotu> sipxnpy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:43] <crdlb> h4wk0: beryl has more features and plugins, and compiz is usually a little faster and works better in Xgl than beryl does
[11:43] <paolo_> hi. how can i ping a specific address+port? (linux)
[11:43] <rockbasil> I want to know the specifics of my laptop's battery consumption.  I want to know how much voltage my cpu/hard drive/fan and other components consume.  How do I do this?
[11:43] <Frogzoo> paolo_: nmap
[11:44] <Lowe> paolo_: you can only ping an ip-address afaik
[11:44] <paolo_> thnks Frogzoo
[11:44] <dave66554> Hey all im having issues with NO SOUND, can anyone help me?
[11:44] <x0x_> Grummus: can you think of any possibilities/suggestions?
[11:44] <rausb0> paolo_: if you mean connecting, you can do that with netcat (nc)
[11:44] <picosam> there's only one line (repeated 3 times) that begins with EE in the whole log: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[11:45] <zathras_laptop> how do i change the mime-type of a file?
[11:45] <jxxxt> dave66554: sounds a bit basic but is your sound turned on?
[11:45] <rausb0> paolo_: nc ipadress port
[11:45] <zathras_laptop> for some reason gedit is saving files with an audio mime-type?!
[11:45] <picosam> Frogzoo: I don't think this can be an issue with the video driver?
[11:45] <akaihol1> This makes my 512M RAM Feisty machine swap wildly and get very slow: echo Test | mpage -b A4 -L 62 -1o - | ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=a4 - test.pdf
[11:45] <Frogzoo> picosam: you don't need the wacom devices, backup your xorg.conf, then remove those devices
[11:46] <dave66554> hey jxxt...yes its defintley on
[11:46] <jxxxt> dave66554: OK that the extent of my knowledge
[11:46] <dave66554> :(
[11:46] <picosam> Frogzoo: okay; I'll do that; but this isn't the video driver issue at all, right?
[11:47] <Grummus> x0x_, no sorry, try using a separate powered usb hub, that should give enough power anytime
[11:48] <Frogzoo> picosam: try it & see
[11:48] <Grummus> x0x_, i have seen various reports with usb power problems, esp on laptops
[11:48] <picosam> just did; restarting machine
[11:48] <heroin> how do i make sure mu video card has propper drivers for games?
[11:49] <paolo_> thnks rausb0
[11:49] <awk> good day, how stable is gusty?
[11:49] <mr_simpson> visit: www.ccmplanet.co.za - Exclusive RSS Feed, Music News, Exclusive Concert Photo Gallery, Blogging, Music Features
[11:49] <crdlb> heroin: glxinfo|grep direct
[11:49] <paolo_> rausb0: it gets stucked
[11:49] <Grummus> awk, is it october yet?
[11:49] <picosam> Frogzoo: I really doubt that removing the three extra InputDevice lines would fix the video issue though; I might be wrong, we'll see
[11:49] <dave66554> Anyone any good with sound issues?
[11:49] <awk> Grummus: what are you on about
[11:50] <awk> I asked a simple question, are you using it, have you had issues, if no you ahve not had issues, then its pretty stable for what you using it for
[11:50] <crdlb> awk: I would wait at least until tribe 1
[11:50] <crdlb> or whatever they're calling the alphas
[11:50] <heroin> crdlb: i said yes
[11:50] <picosam> Frogzoo: yeah; machine just booted; it did nothing; the dimming of the screen is tearing very badly
[11:50] <awk> i bet you an ex windows user
[11:50] <crdlb> heroin: what video card is it?
[11:50] <rausb0> paolo_: terminate with ctrl-c. if you want connect only, without keeping the connection, use the -z option
[11:50] <awk> as you have no idea about *nix
[11:50] <heroin> crdlb: ATI Radeon 9200 SE
[11:50] <picosam> and now there are no errors at all in the log file
[11:50] <crdlb> heroin: ok then you're using the only driver available
[11:50] <Frogzoo> picosam: vid card?
[11:51] <crdlb> heroin: fglrx doesn't support your card
[11:51] <paolo_> rausb0: ok for -z option. now, how can i make it more verbose?
[11:51] <picosam> Intel i810 built in (945G)
[11:51] <heroin> crdlb: u think i can play CounterStrike?
[11:51] <crdlb> heroin: no idea
[11:51] <HJT> hi there
[11:51] <heroin> crdlb: but i do have good drivers setup atm?
[11:51] <crdlb> if you're using cedega, you may have problems passing the tests
[11:51] <picosam> Frogzoo: although there aren't any errors in the log file, there are warnings; they're in the file I pasted
[11:52] <jxxxt> dave66554: what sounds do you need to play?
[11:52] <paolo_> rausb0: found it
[11:52] <paolo_> sorry for the stupid question
[11:52] <crdlb> heroin: the only ones you could get (other than installing a really old version of the proprietary driver)
[11:52] <heroin> crdlb: i use wine :X cedega just isnt my thing
[11:53] <HJT> im running ubuntu on a sony a-417m and i have the creative PCMCIA soundcard (Z2 Laptop) and now: how do i enable sound output on taht card coz all sound i get is through the laptop speakers :s
[11:54] <rausb0> paolo_: no problem
[11:54] <Frogzoo> picosam: you're using xserver-xorg-video-intel or xserver-xorg-video-i810 ?
[11:54] <picosam> currently the latter (i810) but I switched to intel with the exact same results
[11:54] <picosam> *and had the exact same results
[11:54] <liuyang> Hello everyone, I can't umount a NFS mount when the NFS hosts shutdown, I got device or resource is busy, and i can't use nautilus or ls any more, how to solve it?
[11:55] <mjr> liuyang, try umount -f (force) or -l (lazy)
[11:56] <Frogzoo> liuyang: that's a feature
[11:56] <h4wk0> Is there a package to install fonts?
[11:56] <h4wk0> !fonts
[11:56] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:56] <liuyang> mjr: thanks, i've tried it , but got the same error, device is busy
[11:57] <Frogzoo> liuyang: if it's hard mounted, it won't unmount, but mount will resume when you restart the nfs server
[11:57] <Adross> whats the command to download a torrent in server mode?
[11:57] <Adross> that is, no gui
[11:57] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[11:57] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[11:58] <Adross> oww
[11:58] <crdlb> Adross: I'm a fan of rtorrent
[11:58] <crdlb> it's an ncurses torrent client
[11:58] <jxxxt> dave66554: Knoppix is suppossed to be the god of live cds
[11:58] <Adross> crdlb: ok, say i have the torrent file, what's the command to start downloading?
[11:58] <PriceChild> Adross, have you got a torrent application installed?
[11:59] <crdlb> Adross: well you run rtorrent to open it
[11:59] <PriceChild> !away > Feldegast
[11:59] <dave66554> jxxxt.... i have been advised here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=446180&page=3
[11:59] <crdlb> Adross: then press backspace and enter the path to the torrent
[11:59] <crdlb> and press enter
[11:59] <dave66554> i will check out knoppix
[11:59] <Adross> thanks heaps
[11:59] <picosam> I don't understand why I always have video driver issues with Ubuntu :(
[11:59] <h4wk0> !codex
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <h4wk0> !codecs
[11:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <HJT2> im running ubuntu on a sony a-417m and i have the creative PCMCIA soundcard (Z2 Laptop) and now: how do i enable sound output on taht card coz all sound i get is through the laptop speakers :s
[12:00] <HJT2> so where do i set the output for all sounds?
[12:00] <picosam> I still can't get my ati mobility to work properly on my PowerBook; now THAT one no one was ever able to help me with
[12:00] <picosam> I was hoping the Intel one would at least work well !!
[12:00] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that none of my usb devices are charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[12:01] <HeFFy> hmmm anybody here using blender?
[12:01] <Catoptromancy_> ya
[12:01] <heroin> in nautilus when i enter a difrent mount point it keeps saying CANNOR CONAINT CHARACTERS.. G_DIR_SEPERATORS (usually /)
[12:01] <jxxxt> dave66554: just to be sure why dont you go to the gui sound config and check for little red x's by default soe are off
[12:01] <liuyang> Frogzoo: yes, i can use it when the NFS server restart, but before it is restarted, i can't use nautilus any more.... and ls..
[12:01] <Catoptromancy_> Use or attempt to use?
[12:01] <HeFFy> Catoptromancy_: r u using yafray?
[12:02] <Catoptromancy_> I dont know heh
[12:02] <Madcow> yafray rocks
[12:02] <Catoptromancy_> I jsut barely started
[12:02] <Madcow> but yafaray is better
[12:02] <HeFFy> i need help installing yfray in ubuntu.. T.T
[12:02] <HeFFy> Catoptromancy_: o alright
[12:02] <HeFFy> Catoptromancy_: i hope u have fun^^
[12:02] <dave66554> jxxxt: whee is that?
[12:02] <Catoptromancy_> is yafaray like blender? or a plugin?
[12:02] <Frogzoo> picosam: what res'n you running?
[12:03] <HeFFy> Catoptromancy_ plugin
[12:03] <Madcow> No. its a seperate render engine, but it has close ties to blender
[12:03] <picosam> Frogzoo: 1280x1024
[12:03] <picosam> that's the native LCD res
[12:03] <HeFFy> Madcow: hav u succeeded installing yafray in ubuntu?
[12:03] <jxxxt> dave66554: there is a little speaker on the desktop click on it for the options and configs
[12:04] <Madcow> HeFFy: nope, I've only just started using ubuntu
[12:04] <dave66554> i get preferences?
[12:04] <Madcow> well sort of, I have a problem that I need advice on
[12:04] <jxxxt> !yafray
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yafray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <HeFFy> hmmm... im sure i installed 64bit ver of ubuntu..
[12:05] <Frogzoo> !info yafray
[12:05] <Madcow> If you get yafray running.....I can give you all the advice you want....I can give you advice on blender as well
[12:05] <HeFFy> how do u check it?
[12:05] <ubotu> yafray: a modern, xml-speaking raytracing-based rendering system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.9-2 (feisty), package size 621 kB, installed size 1724 kB
[12:05] <HeFFy> Madcow: thank u very much I still need to run
[12:05] <HeFFy> *learn
[12:05] <dave66554> Asks me which device to control.....HDA INTEL (Alsa mixer) or REALTEK OSS MIXER
[12:06] <HeFFy> oops
[12:06] <Frogzoo> dave66554: alsa
[12:06] <jxxxt> dave66554: double click and the sound controller comes up check both tabs for on/off
[12:06] <hana> I can't install 32-bit Java jdk on 64-bit Kubuntu. Anyone know how to do it?
[12:06] <Madcow> HeFFy: #blenderchat is a great place to ask....there are some ubuntu users in now
[12:06] <eyessssssss> I have Ubuntu installed now. But, I can't run a song or a movie... I need your help please.
[12:06] <Madcow> I suspect they'll be able to help
[12:06] <m0u5e> Does anyone know what canonical's / the ubuntu community's stance on anti virus software for linux?
[12:06] <Frogzoo> !restricted > eyessssssss
[12:06] <HeFFy> Madcow: ok i will try
[12:07] <Frogzoo> m0u5e: apt-cache search virus
[12:07] <dave66554> mmm....it does not offfer me anything like that...just list FRONT MIC etc....with no options to do anything
[12:07] <m0u5e> frogzoo: im not necessarily looking for an antivirus package, im just wondering whether or not the community even deems it necessary
[12:08] <Jenna_80> I like hate printing
[12:08] <Madcow> Guys....I need help with my installation....basically Im trying to install 7.04, and dual boot it with Xp
[12:08] <Madcow> but the installer is different to the tute that Im using
[12:08] <jxxxt> dave66554: You should get playback/master/pcm/speaker
[12:08] <m0u5e> frogzoo: at least for me, as long as your smart and don't run questionable scripts or are careful with using root privileges, it seems malware, virus, and that sort of thing does nothing :/
[12:08] <Madcow> and the partitioning section is scaring the shit out of me
[12:08] <Madcow> the tute is here: http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu
[12:09] <Frogzoo> m0u5e: only necessary if you're running a mailserver for doze clients :) - if there was a virus, there'd be a security update pushed out through the repos, so not really an issue
[12:09] <eyessssssss> how do I install VLC in Ubuntu?
[12:09] <m0u5e> for that matter, do people recommend that ubuntu users get a firewall or just use the built in ip tabes?
[12:09] <m0u5e> eyessssssss: use synaptics and search for VLC
[12:09] <Frogzoo> m0u5e: iptables IS a firewall
[12:10] <m0u5e> frogzoo: when i say firewall, i mean gui iptables :D
[12:10] <HeFFy> Madcow: are u using live cd?
[12:10] <Madcow> Basically, when I get to the partitioner....I don't see an option to resize the partition
[12:10] <Madcow> HeFFy: yeah
[12:10] <eyessssssss> m0u5e: I am a new user to Ubuntu.. whats a synaptics and how do I search? :)
[12:10] <m0u5e> frogzoo: i know there are a few, like bulldog, and firestarter... but is it really even necessary? :X
[12:10] <DBO> Frogzoo, it would be helpful if you would describe iptables as something that can be configured into a firewall =)  users tend to get a little confused about what it is
[12:10] <dave66554> in volume conroli have PCM / FRONT / FRONT MIC / CAPTURE................in preferneces of volume control...on top right (little speaker)
[12:10] <heroin> synaptics is a progman tool to download and remove programs
[12:10] <Frogzoo> m0u5e: the default config has no open ports, if you start opening up ports, configuring iptables (direct or firestarter) is a good idea
[12:11] <HeFFy> Madcow: well i had the sroll bar thing to controll the partition but i actually used manual setting
[12:11] <m0u5e> eyessssssss: click "system" then "synaptic package manager"
[12:11] <DBO> m0u5e, all those firewalls are all using iptables as a backend to actually do their work, and as Frogzoo just mentioned, running any of them wont hurt
[12:11] <CheshireViking> !synaptic | eyessssssss
[12:11] <ubotu> eyessssssss: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:11] <eyessssssss> ok thanks guys :)
[12:11] <jxxxt> dave66554: You are running fiesty and you are looking at alsa?
[12:11] <m0u5e> DBO: do you have any suggestions / ones you've used that you like?
[12:11] <Frogzoo> DBO: fair point
[12:12] <DBO> m0u5e, most users are into firestarter, its very user friendly.  I am a network admin, so I have the bad tendency to write my own =P
[12:12] <dave66554> im running feisty..........i have gone to speaker clicked preferences and selected ALSA from drop down box
[12:12] <Jenna_80> oh well.
[12:13] <eyessssssss> one more question please: the sound ain't working.. how do I fix this? :
[12:13] <jxxxt> dave66554: Did you get the options I said?
[12:13] <osfameron> does "acme" from Plan 9 ports exist in repos somewhere ?
[12:13] <osfameron> I can't find it in synaptic
[12:13] <Madcow> HeFFy: http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28622&highlight=installing+yafray+linux
[12:13] <Madcow> that might help....dunno
[12:13] <DBO> eyessssssss, what output do you get from "lspci | grep audio"
[12:14] <dave66554> no....i dont get any otions....only to select ALSA or OSS.....they show different things but there is no options
[12:14] <Madcow> Anyone have any useful advice on my partioner problem?
[12:14] <DBO> Madcow, single sentence summary please?
[12:15] <jxxxt> dave66554: not really options just on or off but if off no sound to or from that device
[12:15] <eyessssssss> <DBO: Ali Corporation M5451 PCI AC-link controller audio Device ( rev 02 )
[12:15] <dave66554> i dont get on or off options..
[12:15] <Madcow> D80: I really can't summarize it in a single sentence :)
[12:15] <Madcow> basically Im trying to dual boot with xp
[12:15] <Madcow> and Im following this tute
[12:16] <Madcow> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu
[12:16] <Madcow> which is for an older version
[12:16] <jxxxt> dave66554: you might have to reask you Q dave sorry:-((
[12:16] <Madcow> so when I get to the partioner part, the options are not there
[12:16] <DBO> eyessssssss, in System -> Preferences -> Sound...  do you see any devices available for selection?
[12:16] <dave66554> i dont get any output from this command eiher...lspci | grep audio
[12:16] <DBO> eyessssssss, last drop down box on the first page
[12:16] <kupesoft> Madcow: Why not use the Ubuntu documentation?
[12:16] <nervnix> Ciao a tutti
[12:17] <nervnix> hi
[12:17] <HeFFy> Madcow: hav u installed window already?
[12:17] <dave66554> ok jxxt i will ask...cheers for you help. ill ask DBO
[12:17] <eyessssssss> DBO yes I see many
[12:17] <nervnix> im trying to configure the wifi... someone can help me?
[12:17] <si_> good day
[12:17] <si_> any sugestions
[12:17] <si_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:17] <si_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:17] <si_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:17] <DBO> eyessssssss, what options do you have in that last drop down box?
[12:17] <si_>  ?
[12:17] <DBO> si_, try running the command again
[12:17] <jxxxt> dave66554: Good luck!
[12:18] <si_> DBO I have and tried with aptitude update and apt-get update
[12:18] <DBO> dave66554, you're having a similar issue?  no sound?
[12:18] <DBO> si_, are you over wireless?
[12:18] <tatters> I have accidently deleted a ext3 partition using gparted which I use for storage, I have not formatted or created a new partition yet,is there any way to recover the data or restore the partition without destroying data?
[12:18] <si_> DBO nope
[12:18] <eyessssssss> DBO: I don't understand what you mean!!
[12:18] <dave66554> hi DBO....yes i am... i think mine is related to  big problem in ubuntu or ALSA driver creation tho....
[12:18] <DBO> eyessssssss, I will get you a screenshot, please hold
[12:19] <eyessssssss> DBO : ok
[12:19] <chuck`_> can anyone help me enable WPA w/ AES encryption for my wireless NIC so I can connect to my router?
[12:19] <cbx33> anyone know about route tables here?
[12:19] <cbx33> I'm tryingto demonstrate ARP poisoning to someone....it works fine using Cain, but doesn't work using ettercap
[12:20] <cbx33> is it possible my route in the kernel isn't right for the gateway
[12:20] <chuck`_> Every guide I see online is WPA w/ TKIP or TKIP+AES
[12:20] <Flannel> tatters: yes.  Its just not happy.
[12:20] <DBO> everyone talking to me, on hold for a bit while i get the screenie
[12:20] <chuck`_> instead of just AES
[12:21] <tatters> Flannel: not happy as in ?
[12:21] <DBO> dave66554, I think you have a driver issue too
[12:21] <DBO> dave66554, what sound card do you have?
[12:22] <babo> guys, can anyone talk me through my apache sites config for the ubuntu debian way of doing things ?
[12:22] <si_> babo?
[12:22] <si_> what does that mean
[12:22] <DBO> eyessssssss, http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotko5.png  <--- the part circled in red, do you see anything in that drop down box
[12:22] <chuck`_> babo : what do you need help with?
[12:22] <babo> At the moment, I have default in my sites-available, which just points my server to /var/www/  where I have all my sites ..
[12:23] <Flannel> tatters: as in not a fun process.  But doable.  I don't know specifics very well, and I'm hesitant to suggest things for fear of breaking stuff further (a dd to copy the stuff, for example).  Google might be your best bet
[12:23] <Flannel> babo: What do you want to do?
[12:23] <dave66554> DBO....not to sure... lspci | grep audio gives me no output, aplay -l gives me card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: ALC861VD Analog [ALC861VD Analog]
[12:23] <dave66554>   Subdevices: 0/1
[12:23] <dave66554>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:23] <chuck`_> babo : so what's the problem? :<
[12:23] <dave66554> and card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
[12:23] <babo> I want to set it up properly. I have 4 sites. I should have four files in sites-available right ?
[12:23] <dave66554>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:23] <dave66554>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:23] <Madcow> kupesoft: Well, I can't seem to find much regarding installation and dual booting in the documentation
[12:23] <heroin> How do i mount a SFS partition?
[12:23] <Grummus> chuck`_, TKIP+AES may be what you mean with "only AES" since you need some way of authentication besides encryption
[12:23] <DBO> si_, there is a tiny chance someones abusing your internet connection... can you give the output of "dig security.ubuntu.com" please
[12:24] <babo> I have php sites and I have a django site which is served from my home directory ...
[12:24] <kupesoft> Madcow: resize your current Windows XP partition, install ubuntu on the free space, that's it (;
[12:24] <babo> ... by python ...
[12:24] <Flannel> babo: yeah.  Make them in sites-available, and then use a2ensite to enable them (symlink to -enabled)
[12:24] <dave66554> DBO, i have worked thro this post.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:24] <kupesoft> Madcow: The Ubuntu installer does all that for you,
[12:24] <DBO> dave66554, yeah I was about to direct you there...
[12:24] <babo> Flannel, so put their virtual hosts in sites-available ...
[12:24] <chuck`_> Grummus : well, for instance, on the Linksys GUI config, for "WPA Pre-Shared Key" securyity there's 3 encryption modes: AES, TKIP, and TKIP+AES
[12:24] <chuck`_> Grummus : and I'm using AES
[12:25] <eyessssssss> DBO: in that place I see " ALI 5451 ( Alsa mixer )
[12:25] <DBO> eyessssssss, any other options in there?
[12:25] <Flannel> babo: yeah.  Each thing in s-a is a different host. Well, each thing in sites-enabled is a different host.  Things in sites-available are hosts that aren't necessarily activated.
[12:25] <dave66554> DBO, well i did not have a sound card installed before i started those instructions........now i do...but no sound.
[12:25] <Madcow> kupesoft: well, that's the problem. when I install the only option I see is to use the entire partition
[12:25] <Madcow> and theres no way Im taking that option and just hoping
[12:25] <kupesoft> Madcow: What about manually edit partition table?
[12:25] <Grummus> chuck`_, ah i got confused sry
[12:25] <eyessssssss> yes. when I click there is an the option " Conexant Cx20468 rev i, Conexant ( OSS Mixer)
[12:26] <diablos_raven> hello
[12:26] <diablos_raven> all
[12:26] <eyessssssss> -an
[12:26] <DBO> dave66554, can you tell me if cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp produces any noise at all?  (you can use ctrl+c to stop that white noise once you hear it)
[12:26] <diablos_raven> i need help
[12:26] <Grummus> chuck`_, forget what i said, it's nonsense :)
[12:26] <chuck`_> :)
[12:26] <kupesoft> Madcow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[12:26] <amorphous_> I'm wanting to work with dates (adding & subtracting days etc) but the bash 'date' command doesn't have these capabilities... does anyone know of a command that does? I ask because I'm hopeing not to have to use seconds and convert back and forth hundreds of times...
[12:27] <diablos_raven> my system keeps freezing when i play movie files and few flash
[12:27] <babo> Flannel: right. I'm running a dev server from a dyndns setup at eire.homelinux.com. The sites won't actually have proper top level domains. What should I put in as Servername ?
[12:27] <diablos_raven> *view
[12:27] <babo> eire.homelinux.com/mysite ...
[12:27] <chuck`_> I should use WEP since it's a little more secure (WEP is like an open window, WPA is like an open door) but for some reason my Wii doesn't want to connect to the router when it's using WEP -- even though the Wii "supports" WEP
[12:28] <crdlb> chuck`_: eh?
[12:28] <frying_fish> chuck`_, lies, wpa is a better protection than WEP
[12:28] <crdlb> WEP is completely insecure
[12:28] <Madcow> kupesoft: thank you so much bro :)
[12:28] <chuck`_> Did I have it backwards?
[12:28] <crdlb> yes
[12:28] <frying_fish> yes
[12:28] <chuck`_> haha okay
[12:28] <chuck`_> You guys jumped on that quick
[12:28] <dave66554> DBO, mmm says /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy. I will check to see if im doing anything. Oh yes had youtube open..............now it says nothing like it is running the command but no sound
[12:28] <DBO> chuck`_, WEP is less secure than simply doing MAC filtering, which in turn is fairly insecure... WEP will not stop someone with no experience but access to google, MAC filtering will
[12:28] <chuck`_> WEP isn't like an open door, I guess, it's more like not having a wall
[12:29] <ccooke> no, WEP is *more* secure than mac filtering.
[12:29] <DBO> dave66554, thats our first sign that something is majorly wrong
[12:29] <Grummus> chuck`_, TKIP+AES  means "TKIP or AES" so the right encryption layer both side support should be choosen automatically
[12:29] <kupesoft> WEP is like having an open network,
[12:29] <frying_fish> wep purely stops casual people getting in
[12:29] <kupesoft> So is mac filtering.
[12:29] <osfameron> it's not like an open door as much as it's like not locking your door
[12:29] <kupesoft> I'm a pretty casual kind of guy (;
[12:29] <osfameron> most people don't try to break through doors
[12:29] <DBO> ccooke, mac filtering is harder to get around than WEP when it comes to your average joe...
[12:29] <ccooke> not by much, mind, but it requires a greater burden of time and software to break
[12:29] <diablos_raven> can anyone help me
[12:29] <dave66554> DBO, wicked! :) i bought a Tosh as i thought it would have good Linux support, as they are popular....and well regarded. LOL
[12:29] <chuck`_> Grummus : oh okay, I thought it was something seperate, like it encrypted the password twice with each algorithm, re: used TKIP to get a salt or something and used the salt in the AES algorithm
[12:29] <ccooke> DBO: your average joe doesn't break WEP.
[12:30] <frying_fish> yeah, wep will merely stop people who are just randomly after a network, not forcefully trying to get into your network
[12:30] <kupesoft> DBO: No it's not: ifconfig wlan0 hw ether <address>
[12:30] <chuck`_> I guess I can use one of these guides
[12:30] <tondar> hey all
[12:30] <babo> Flannel: nothing happens, it just points to my /var/www/ folder as usual ...
[12:30] <chuck`_> None of them are very concise, though, so I don't expect much
[12:30] <ccooke> DBO: also, we're talking about linux where MAC address changes are just an ifconfig away...
[12:30] <lethu> is there any utility like rc-update in ubuntu to launch apps at boot time?
[12:30] <Enverex> DBO, Yeah but when using Mac filtering there's no encryption at all
[12:30] <tondar> FIFA 2007 works fine with wine, tested it, also installed in windows ran on ubuntu using wine ;)
[12:30] <frying_fish> for example, in my house we have wep, because next doors wireless is totally open
[12:30] <Flannel> !bum | lethu
[12:30] <ubotu> lethu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:30] <DBO> ccooke, the fact is there are applications anyone can download and use to break WEP, the same is not true (afaik) for MAC filtering.
[12:30] <babo> [Wed May 23 11:29:54 2007]  [error]  VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undef\
[12:30] <babo> ined results
[12:30] <lethu> Flannel, thanks
[12:30] <chuck`_> lethu : you can put scripts in /etc/init.d and they'll be executed at boot
[12:30] <frying_fish> so, if people want to just steal internet they use the open one, if they want into our network thats different.
[12:31] <chuck`_> lethu : or symlinks to programs
[12:31] <ccooke> DBO: they don't need to download an application to break MAC filtering - all that's needed is to run a command already installed.
[12:31] <ccooke> besides, arguing which is *less* secure is pointless.
[12:31] <lethu> chuck`_, oki thanks :)
[12:31] <Flannel> babo: you're defining virtualhosts based on port? or what?
[12:31] <DBO> ccooke, thats linux... I am assume an attacker with google and windows... you know... your average script kiddie =P
[12:31] <kupesoft> DBO: You're wrong. The necessary software to spoof a MAC address *comes* with Linux. To crack WEP, you need to download software...
[12:31] <ccooke> if you are serious about security on a wireless network, use ipsec or openvpn.
[12:31] <Enverex> DBO, You can spoof macs
[12:31] <ccooke> DBO: it's easy in Windows, too.
[12:32] <DBO> ccooke, not to spoof MAC addresses on wireless controllers its not... I know... I've tried =P
[12:32] <planktonboy> hi all
[12:32] <dave66554> DBO ,is there anything i can do?
[12:32] <DBO> kupesoft, Enverex, ccooke if you all join #DBO real quick I can explain what I was saying
[12:32] <babo> Flannel: dunno ... I have this in my virtual hosts ...
[12:32] <babo> NameVirtualHost *
[12:32] <soyporti> hello i need some helP! somebody!
[12:32] <eyessssssss> DBO: did you figure it out why I don't hear a sound?
[12:32] <babo> <VirtualHost *:80 >
[12:32] <DBO> dave66554, yes just hold on
[12:32] <chuck`_> !paste
[12:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:33] <chuck`_> babo ^
[12:33] <dave66554> DBO - sorry - really appreciate your time
[12:33] <Flannel> babo: Right.  You're running four virtualhosts, How do you distinguish between them in your URLs?
[12:33] <soyporti> i need to convert a pdf document to .doc or odt with the original format
[12:33] <soyporti> ???
[12:34] <planktonboy> been looking at the ubuntu forums regqrding nvidia drivers for feisty, and was just wondering if its worth trying to use proprietry nvidia drivers from nvidia website, or just sticking with the ones from ubuntu repos
[12:34] <soyporti> help!
[12:34] <diablos_raven> does anyone want to talk about faulty gpu drivers for a sec
[12:34] <babo> Flannel: ServerName eire.homelinux.com/my_site ... ?
[12:34] <frying_fish> planktonboy, unless the ones that come with ubuntu (in the l-r-m) so that you are using "nvidia" not "nv" are buggy then stick with them
[12:35] <stefg> planktonboy: stick with the repos, they are up to date and won't break X after kernel updates
[12:35] <Flannel> babo: And the other one is /my_other_site?
[12:35] <frying_fish> there is no major difference between the ones in l-r-m and on the nvidia site (only 1 version difference) and just make sure you have l-r-m installed and then xorg is using nvidia not nv and you will notice a big difference
[12:35] <babo> Flannel: no, but it will be in about 2 seconds ;-)
[12:36] <planktonboy> what is l-r-m
[12:36] <kupesoft> linux restricted modules
[12:36] <frying_fish> linux-restricted-modules
[12:36] <planktonboy> ah
[12:36] <planktonboy> thanks :)
[12:36] <DBO> alright who was I working with?
[12:36] <planktonboy> ok
[12:36] <kupesoft> linux-restricted-modules-generic is probably the package you want,
[12:36] <DBO> eyessssssss, can you please do the following
[12:36] <planktonboy> thanks for the advice chaps :)
[12:36] <diablos_raven> im using l-r-m and they are buggy but mines ati
[12:37] <Grummus> chuck`_, TKIP is the key exchange protocol, it uses WEP by default, but that's not a real problem since the keys change every 1-2 hours or so, but you can add even more security with using AES as the symmetric encryption algorithm, but not every client may understand this, also it's take a bit more processing power without special hardware
[12:37] <Flannel> babo: Right.  Those aren't different virtualhosts.  Those are all the same virtualhost.  You'll be editing some stuff within the virtual host though
[12:37] <DBO> eyessssssss, "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and tell me if you hear white noise (press ctrl + c to stop the noise)
[12:37] <edfromballarat> hi, anybody free to help me with an nvidia related prob?
[12:37] <CarinArr> edfromballarat: what's the problem
[12:37] <claude> Tora 1.2.31 I can't connect with oracle
[12:38] <chuck`_> I have an nVIDIA-related problem myself... I can't afford an 8800GTX :<
[12:38] <chuck`_> Fix it
[12:38] <Madcow> kupesoft: that was an excellent link. very informative. thank you.
[12:38] <DBO> dave66554, have you gone through alsa-mixer and made sure PCM and Master are both unmuted and at a reasonable volume?
[12:38] <CarinArr> chuck`_: why do you need one?
[12:38] <edfromballarat> just changed cpu from sempron 2800 to 3000, everything works fine but when I load 3d games there is lots of flashing and redraws and then the system crashes.... any ideas?
[12:38] <chuck`_> CarinArr : for the DX10 games that don't exist yet
[12:38] <kupesoft> Madcow: I try!
[12:38] <eyessssssss> DBO yes I hear the noise
[12:38] <CarinArr> edfromballarat: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:39] <der|kunstler> hi, how can I send an email from the command line ?>
[12:39] <chuck`_> CarinArr : and because I don't like my 6600
[12:39] <CarinArr> chuck`_: and won't run in linux;)
[12:39] <DBO> eyessssssss, is that the first time you have heard any noise out of your speakers thus far?
[12:39] <Madcow> oh shit!
[12:39] <edfromballarat> what am i looking for?  **doing it now**
[12:39] <diablos_raven> hey kupe, you seem to know a littel about gpu problems can you help me
[12:39] <Madcow> this doesn't look good
[12:39] <CarinArr> edfromballarat: normally errors will generate an (EE) line in there
[12:39] <Madcow> 'most current Linux distributions, including Ubuntu, do not support write-access to NTFS partitions; only read access is supported'
[12:39] <kupesoft> der|kunstler: w3m http://www.gmail.com/
[12:39] <Madcow> oh oh
[12:39] <CarinArr> edfromballarat: you need to do it straight after it's crashed though, or it's overwritten by the new x session
[12:39] <claude> Tora 1.2.31. I can't connect with oracle db
[12:39] <dave66554> DBO - i dont have a master in alsamixer, PCM is at full so is FRONT, HEADPHONE is at 0, how do i save settings in alsamixer?
[12:39] <eyessssssss> DBO I heard before and hey the sound is working now.. i think the problem is the speakers :(   sorry
[12:40] <chuck`_> CarinArr : Really?  no one's hacked a driver for it?  That's surprising
[12:40] <h4wk0> Whats the program that installs rpm?
[12:40] <der|kunstler> kupesoft: w3m ?
[12:40] <Madcow> kupesoft: does that mean Im screwed?
[12:40] <stefg> !ntfs-3g | Madcow
[12:40] <ubotu> Madcow: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:40] <DBO> Madcow, sudo aptitude install ntfs-config
[12:40] <kupesoft> Madcow: Not at all!
[12:40] <DBO> Madcow, then run ntfs-config from your menus (forget where it is exactly)
[12:40] <claude>  Tora 1.2.31. I can't connect with oracle db !!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:40] <kupesoft> Madcow: You don't need to write to your Windows partition, anyhow. Reading from it will suffice.
[12:41] <diablos_raven> DBO, you dont need to run it from menu just run it from terminal
[12:41] <kupesoft> Madcow: Basically you want to split your hard disk in to two portions, one for your existing Windows partition, one for Ubuntu Linux!
[12:41] <DBO> diablos_raven, he would need to know to run it as root then
[12:41] <diablos_raven> sudo
[12:41] <DBO> gksudo
[12:41] <Madcow> kupesoft: ok....so I think Im ready to try the installation again....hopefully next time I come in here I'll be using Ubuntu
[12:41] <^^rian> how to copy file from gateway to client ? im using the client to remote the gateway
[12:42] <chuck`_> Madcow : good luck :)
[12:42] <diablos_raven> madcow, goodluck
[12:42] <kupesoft> Madcow: Feel free to pm me,
[12:42] <kupesoft> Madcow: Good luck (;
[12:42] <diablos_raven> kupesoft, can i pm you with a problem
[12:42] <Madcow> thanks XD
[12:42] <] [kOrEy^8] [> server irc.chatland.es
[12:42] <CarinArr> chuck`_: it's not as easy as that..
[12:42] <] [kOrEy^8] [> mis cojones
[12:42] <] [kOrEy^8] [> perdon
[12:42] <] [kOrEy^8] [> xD
[12:42] <kupesoft> diablos_raven: You'd be better served by asking your question / explaining your problem here...
[12:43] <DBO> dave66554, can you run the sound mixer and check in there (double click the sound volume applet)
[12:43] <chuck`_> Anyone here running using BitchX?
[12:43] <chuck`_> -running
[12:43] <diablos_raven> kupesoft, the only reason i asked is cause ive been trying to get help for liek 20 minutes but anyways
[12:43] <h4wk0> Ewww bitchx :D
[12:44] <h4wk0> Ive ran it before
[12:44] <CarinArr> irssi ftw
[12:44] <chuck`_> how do you switch the input to send to another channel? :<
[12:44] <diablos_raven> my problem is that my system keeps freezing when i load video files and flash pages
[12:44] <HJT2> can any1 assist me with a problem with my PCMCIA soundcard on my laptop?
[12:44] <kupesoft> diablos_raven: I'm not really sure what to tell you,
[12:44] <xtknight> Flannel, were you the one that told me about ntp-simple?
[12:45] <dave66554> DBO - not sure i understand what you mean by sound mixer? alsamixer or SYSTEM > Preferences > Sound or little speaker in top right.
[12:45] <diablos_raven> im using l-r-m ati drivers and even without them my system would freeze
[12:45] <DBO> diablos_raven, during these freezes, is the scroll lock and caps lock light flashing?
[12:45] <kupesoft> diablos_raven: Is the system completely unusable?
[12:45] <tiddi> damn Rhytmbox keeps crashing
[12:45] <Flannel> xtknight: hows it working out for you?
[12:45] <xtknight> Flannel,  it didn't seem to work (although i haven't restarted my system (init/services) yet)
[12:45] <DBO> dave66554, top right, double click it
[12:45] <diablos_raven> DBO, i dont think so
[12:45] <xtknight> time is 4 mins off at the moment
[12:45] <Flannel> xtknight: is ntpd running?
[12:45] <Flannel> xtknight: how much was it last night?
[12:45] <DBO> diablos_raven, well at least its not a kernel panic... when these freezes happen can you switch to a tty?
[12:45] <chuck`_> irssi looks exactly like BitchX; what's the difference?
[12:46] <xtknight> Flannel, ntpd isnt running..should it be?  im not really sure how this works
[12:46] <diablos_raven> kupesoft, im using the fawn
[12:46] <diablos_raven> DBO, nope complete freeze
[12:46] <dromer> hi all, I'm having trouble with setting a disklabel to this 2.5" hd I have hooked up to usb
[12:46] <dromer> gparted sees the program, but the console gives: Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label.  whan I try to make a new partition
[12:46] <xtknight> Flannel, ' sudo /etc/init.d/ntp start ' sound right?  will that make it work?
[12:46] <xtknight> that was probably the problem but i'll see
[12:46] <Flannel> xtknight: yeah.  ntpd runs constantly.  yeah, probably.  on dapper it's ntp-simple
[12:46] <Flannel> er, ntp-server
[12:46] <`AnthraX> hello i want to learn how to get the sources list manually from terminal...
[12:46] <xtknight> last night it was probably 2 mins off, now it's 4......tonight itll be ~6
[12:47] <xtknight> didnt pay attention last night
[12:47] <diablos_raven> kupesoft, ive only had one other problem with panel icons which i still havent figured out yet
[12:47] <xtknight> Flannel, after it started it hasn't sync'd the time yet, although i hope it will eventually
[12:47] <dave66554> DBO - Ok found it, PCM is at 100% so is FRONT, there is no MASTER option, the play back device is the HDA INTEL ALSA.
[12:47] <coolgeek> Could any one help me with an issue im having with GAIM it will not minimize to the system tray no matter what i try?
[12:47] <DBO> diablos_raven, next time you get that, see if you can press ctrl + sysrq + k to get to a terminal
[12:47] <h4wk0> !w3m
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w3m - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <Flannel> xtknight: ntpd is designed to not give you jumps.  so it won't "sync" right away.  Itll work slowly.
[12:48] <dromer> chuck`_: irssi is much better ;)
[12:48] <xtknight> Flannel, why is my time desynchronizing in the first place?  any clues?
[12:48] <DBO> dave66554, that lack of Master sounds like it might be our issue... lemme do some googling
[12:48] <xtknight> Flannel, i do have a core 2 duo (risk of desync between cores), although dapper and edgy worked great
[12:48] <chuck`_> ./slap
[12:48] <h4wk0> Whats the program that installs rpm?
[12:48] <xtknight> !alien
[12:48] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:48] <coolgeek> h4wk0: rpm
[12:48] <dave66554> DBO - ok buddy, many thanks
[12:48] <diablos_raven> DBO, ok
[12:48] <Flannel> xtknight: because computer clocks have never been good.  They have to work under a variety of conditions and because of it, they do rather crappily
[12:48] <coolgeek> Could any one help me with an issue im having with GAIM it will not minimize to the system tray no matter what i try?
[12:49] <h4wk0> Ty xtknight
[12:49] <DBO> diablos_raven, my mistake, thats alt sysrq k
[12:49] <xtknight> Flannel, i am running a custom kernel..that could be it
[12:49] <xtknight> realtime and some various patches
[12:49] <OutoLumo> HIh, all!
[12:49] <xtknight> maybe messing it up
[12:49] <OutoLumo> U have a udev problem.
[12:49] <diablos_raven> DBO, and if it dont work
[12:49] <OutoLumo> I have.
[12:49] <ph8> where will firefox store cookies on my pc?
[12:50] <coolgeek> has any one else had issues getting things to miniize to the system tray?
[12:50] <DBO> diablos_raven, then come back and ask
[12:50] <Flannel> xtknight: nah, it has nothing to do with the kernel.  and realtime wont affect it either
[12:50] <frederick> where are firefox temporary internet files?
[12:50] <diablos_raven> DBO edgy didnt have any problems then i switched over feisty and ive had problems
[12:50] <^^rian> how to copy file from gateway to client ? im using the client to remote the gateway
[12:51] <h4wk0> coolgeek, do you want a sarcastic answer like you gave me?
[12:51] <xtknight> Flannel, oooh it just synced my time
[12:51] <OutoLumo> At startup /dev/null has permission 600, instead of 666, though /etc/udev/rules.d/40-something has mask 0666...
[12:51] <happytron> hi, my networking is very frequently crapping out.  i'm on a wired lan on which everyone else seems to have good service.  things worked fine until a few days ago.  /etc/init.d/networking restart always fixes the problem, but never for long.  any clues on how to track this down?
[12:51] <DBO> diablos_raven, sounds like you are having the same issue I was having... please check and see if you are getting flashing scroll lock and caps lock lights next time =)
[12:51] <xtknight> Flannel, sounds like it happens every 5 mins maybe
[12:51] <jxxxt> frederick: they are called 'cache"
[12:51] <frederick> where is the cache for firefox stored
[12:51] <DBO> diablos_raven, also can I have the skinny on your hardware please?
[12:52] <jscinoz> When i make a deb pkg where should i tell it to put a .desktop to create a menu item?
[12:52] <xtknight> frederick, ~/.mozilla/
[12:52] <jxxxt> frederick: they are called 'cache"
[12:52] <xtknight> cd /home/andy/.mozilla/firefox/
[12:52] <xtknight> cd /home/$USER/.mozilla/firefox/something.default/
[12:52] <diablos_raven> DBO, i have an amd athlon xp an ati radeon 9800 sapphire over 700MB of RAM and a raptor drive on an asus board
[12:52] <jxxxt> frederick: type about cache in your browser or if you want to get rid of them delete cache in preferences
[12:53] <xtknight> about:cache
[12:53] <stefg> happytron: i heard several times that avahi was causing problems, but don't know about details, If you don't need it i'd rry to uninstall that first
[12:53] <`AnthraX> hello i want to learn how to get the sources list manually from terminal...
[12:53] <DBO> diablos_raven, wireless?
[12:53] <xtknight> `AnthraX, view it?
[12:53] <`AnthraX> yes
[12:54] <`AnthraX> i want to add something in there
[12:54] <xtknight> `AnthraX, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | less
[12:54] <xtknight> ok, edit it..
[12:54] <xtknight> `AnthraX, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:54] <`AnthraX> thanks man
[12:54] <diablos_raven> DBO, nope hardwire
[12:54] <LJHarb> is there a php 5.2.0 package for dapper yet?
[12:54] <jxxxt> frederick: to view files with a ./ prefix you have to change your folder view to "show all files"
[12:55] <xtknight> !search php dapper-backports
[12:55] <ubotu> Found: latest kde, 11:57]  <ubotu> strigi, koffice, thunderbird, newton, flash-also*, amd64-#ubuntu-effects, download-#kubuntu, flash, gparted
[12:55] <h4wk0> No LJHarb
[12:55] <happytron> stefg: i just stopped avahi-daemon... I'll see if this helps
[12:55] <LJHarb> k... i just apt-get upgraded and all i have is 5.1.2
[12:55] <LJHarb> any ideas when php 5.2 will be out in a package?
[12:55] <happytron> stefg: i haven't figured out how to reproduce the problem, or succeeded in correlating it with anything...
[12:55] <DBO> dave66554, im still with you
[12:56] <stefg> happytron: unhappy relationship between eth0 and router :-) ?
[12:56] <dave66554> DBO - its cool, i appreciate you are one popular guru! :) I have some reading to do...so ill check back every couple of minutes...
[12:56] <Flannel> LJHarb: PHP 5.2 is already in Feisty
[12:56] <happytron> stefg: perhaps, but things have worked fine for months
[12:57] <LJHarb> Flannel: i suspect switching from dapper to feisty would be an undertaking, can i install the feisty package in dapper?
[12:57] <stefg> happytron: someone stepped over the cable and broke it? i/f going to retire soon?
[12:57] <Flannel> LJHarb: Undertaking... perhaps.  As for backporting, yeah.
[12:57] <Flannel> !prevu | LJHarb
[12:57] <ubotu> LJHarb: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[12:57] <LJHarb> hm, k
[12:57] <xtknight> you'll have to go from dapper->edgy->feisty, or install feisty cleanly
[12:57] <xtknight> LJHarb, ^
[12:57] <LJHarb> i'll see if i can do that
[12:57] <xtknight> dapper->feisty with sources.list change may work but it'll be really messy if it does
[12:58] <DBO> dave66554, can you add this line to your /etc/modprove.d/options "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" though make sure its not already there please
[12:58] <happytron> stefg: well, /etc/init.d/networking restart always fixes the problem... so it doesn't seem like cable failure
[12:58] <Flannel> xtknight, LJHarb: no.  dapper to feisty won't work.
[12:58] <LJHarb> even with prevu Flannel?
[12:59] <tuna_> so, I messed up my graphics drivers with envy and x wont start. Where do i get help for envy?
[12:59] <Flannel> LJHarb: Prevu isn't upgrading.  You can backport feisty stuff to dapper with prevu, yes.
[12:59] <CarinArr> !envy
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <stefg> happytron: just a general rule checking the hardware never hurts if there are unexplainable/unreproducable bugs...
[12:59] <CarinArr> meh
[01:00] <LJHarb> Flannel: is there likely to be any stability issue installing php5.2 feisty on apache2 dapper?
[01:00] <happytron> stefg: yeah, i know.  the lights still blink and everything.  plugging/unplugging the cable never helps
[01:00] <coolgeek> Could any one help me with an issue im having with GAIM it will not minimize to the system tray no matter what i try?
[01:01] <happytron> stefg: was hoping to find some signs of error in a log, but nothing in dmesg
[01:01] <Flannel> LJHarb: hmm.  Probably.  Since Feisty uses apache2.2, You'll most likely wind up with a mess
[01:01] <CarinArr> tuna_: you could try http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html.. there's a faq there and a contact email address
[01:01] <stefg> happytron: so you went through the routine... see if disabling avahi changes something
[01:01] <LJHarb> sigh, alright... so its either upgrade to feisty, or wait for a dapper package.
[01:01] <Flannel> LJHarb: there won't be a dapper package
[01:01] <happytron> stefg: yup, still works so far
[01:02] <happytron> stefg: i'll modulate turning avahi on and off, see if i can tease out a signal =]
[01:02] <Flannel> LJHarb: you'd end up waiting 1-1.5 years for the next LTS, and upgrade to that, or upgrade to feisty (through edgy)
[01:02] <LJHarb> ok how involved is the feisty/edgy upgrade process, how long would it take, and how likely is it to mess up my existing settings?
[01:03] <DBO> dave66554, can you add this line to your /etc/modprove.d/options "options snd-hda-intel model=3stack" though make sure its not already there please
[01:03] <ruif13> help me :/
[01:03] <dave66554> DBO - having trouble opening the file as su....
[01:03] <DBO> dave66554, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options
[01:03] <Flannel> Each upgrade requires the download of all of your packages.  So, with a default install, thats about... what? I guess about 500mb per release.
[01:03] <DBO> sorry I made a type on the filename the first time
[01:04] <dave66554> DBO - sudo gedit /etc/modprove.d/options just opens a blank file
[01:04] <stefg> LJHarb: i'd strongly advocate to backup and do a fresh install... quicker and cleaner. See !clone how to get your package selection from dapper to feisty
[01:04] <chuck`_> modprobe, probably
[01:04] <DBO> dave66554, yeah sorry, its modprobe.d
[01:04] <chuck`_> Not prove
[01:04] <LJHarb> hm ok thanks
[01:04] <LJHarb> !clone
[01:04] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[01:04] <ferronica> fedora and ubuntu are same ???
[01:04] <ruif13> hi ... i have installed the ubuntu in a resizedd disk but when finish the install i reeboot and only show up the windows ... nothing of grub or ubuntu show :S
[01:04] <ruif13> anyonoe can help?
[01:04] <ruif13> :(
[01:04] <Flannel> ferronica: no.  What gave you that idea?
[01:04] <DBO> ruif13, just ask =)  we're listening
[01:05] <chuck`_> ferronica : They're completely different linux distros.  Fedora branched off from Red Hat
[01:05] <ruif13> yes DBO
[01:05] <ruif13> hi DBO ... i have installed the ubuntu in a resizedd disk but when finish the install i reeboot and only show up the windows ... nothing of grub or ubuntu show :S
[01:06] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that none of my usb devices are charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[01:06] <DBO> ruif13, how many hard drives do you have?
[01:06] <ruif13> 3
[01:06] <dave66554> DBO - i have added the line to the end of the file and saved
[01:06] <DBO> dave66554, reboot
[01:07] <Bogaurd> what is the difference between nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx?
[01:07] <dave66554> DBO - roger that ,see you in a min...
[01:07] <DBO> ruif13, do you know how to change hard drive boot priority in your BIOS?
[01:07] <ruif13> yes
[01:07] <DBO> Bogaurd, support for the 8800GTX
[01:07] <ruif13> of course in setup bios
[01:07] <DBO> ruif13, change it until you find the one with GRUB
[01:07] <tatters> I accidently deleted a second drives partition I use for storage using gparted, I used testdisk to find and recover partition which it has done sucessfully, however it asking me if I want the drives new partition to be extended or primary, should I choose primary wthout boot flag
[01:07] <Bogaurd> DBO: is that all? it's not a newer driver at all?
[01:08] <chuck`_> alias ws window new double on;window server $0
[01:08] <ruif13> ok i've done that apears grub and error 22
[01:08] <chuck`_> er
[01:08] <DBO> Bogaurd, no its newer, its just thats the major difference
[01:08] <stefg> tatters: what type was it before? was it inside an extended partition?
[01:08] <tatters> if I got a second hard drive would it normally be a primary drive or extended
[01:09] <frederick> :q
[01:09] <tatters> stefg: not sure what it was bfr
[01:09] <Bogaurd> DBO: thanks :)
[01:09] <stefg> tatters: so it was just one big oartition over the whole drive?
[01:09] <DBO> ruif13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  <-- follow that please
[01:09] <Frogzoo> tatters: how many partitions on this drive?
[01:09] <ruif13> yes :P
[01:10] <tatters> stefg: it was one large disk no other partitions,I just formated ext3 then mounted it
[01:10] <LJHarb> ok Flannel: im trying to back up my system state so i can quickly restore it when i upgrade. i saved my crontab, and my package selection, and ive backed up the files i need, now im looking at the config files ive modified. i have symlinks to them all in a directory, if i copy the dir, does it copy the symlinks, or the orig files?
[01:10] <stefg> tatters: primary is ok then
[01:10] <Frogzoo> tatters: if there was only one partition, it had to be primary
[01:11] <yobrien> LJHarb: -d to copy symlinks
[01:11] <LJHarb> yobrien: without -d, it copies the original contents?
[01:11] <tatters> k thnx folks just making sure I dont want to lose a single byte i
[01:12] <Frogzoo> LJHarb: consider cp -pR
[01:12] <dave66554> DBO - back, no sound still from the test option in SYSTEM / Preferences / sound.Also no master bar in little speaker or alsamixer
[01:13] <yobrien> LJHarb: with -d it copies  them as symlinks ... other wise it copies them as directories/files containing the file/directories the link points to
[01:13] <GeorgeAScott> i can't delete files from my creative zen nano.?
[01:13] <Frogzoo> LJHarb: consider cp -spR
[01:14] <Frogzoo> LJHarb: ah, get this right eventually cp -dpR
[01:14] <chuck`_> :]
[01:14] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that none of my usb devices are charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[01:14] <DBO> dave66554, unfortunate...
[01:15] <jxxxt> dave66554: I just noticed in the gui file/edit/preferences show then you can select master
[01:15] <LJHarb> thanks Frogzoo and yobrien
[01:16] <dave66554> DBO - yep it sure is.....just found this post : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/92825 / Is that related to me do u think?
[01:17] <Frogzoo> LJHarb: actually -a = -dpR :)
[01:17] <kajide> Guys I am a new user of Ubuntu could you help me setting up a VPN connection
[01:17] <Frogzoo> !vpn
[01:17] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[01:18] <DBO> dave66554, lets try this...
[01:18] <kajide> Thanks
[01:19] <DBO> dave66554, add "snd-hda-intel model=3stack" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, and remove the line we added to the options file
[01:19] <tatters> eh. I  now understand the warning gparted gives now about it being a "weapon of mass destruction" :/ thankfully I managed to recover my partition.
[01:21] <Parmenion> hey guys
[01:21] <dave66554> Ok have done, did not add the " " marks tho....thats right isnt it?
[01:22] <x0x_> hi, looking for some help, ive noticed since i upgraded to feisty that some of my usb devices are not charging anymore.. any suggestions?
[01:22] <Stormx2> x0x_: I don't think that is anything to do with ubuntu
[01:22] <DBO> dave66554, thats right, no quotes
[01:22] <Stormx2> x0x_: USB ports supply a voltage regardless of the operating system
[01:22] <DBO> dave66554, now reboot please
[01:22] <dave66554> DBO - reboot?
[01:22] <x0x_> Stormx2: well its only since i upgraded
[01:22] <x0x_> Stormx2: worked fine in edgy
[01:23] <Parmenion> Stormx2, but honestly, ive had this problem as well ... it says its charging, but it actually isnt
[01:23] <Stormx2> Hmm
[01:23] <Stormx2> Odd
[01:23] <Stormx2> What devices?
[01:23] <x0x_> Stormx2: if i run a while loop calling lsusb, the phone keeps on charging
[01:23] <x0x_> obviously cos its probing
[01:23] <Stormx2> hmm
[01:23] <Stormx2> well, I have no idea
[01:23] <Stormx2> File a bug!
[01:24] <Parmenion> its my Creative Zen, mp3 player
[01:24] <x0x_> its an imate.. i noticed that if i plug my motorola in, the maxoutput in lsusb -v for that device is 100ma
[01:25] <x0x_> for the imate its at 500ma
[01:25] <Stormx2> Parmenion: let me check if mine charges, one mo
[01:25] <x0x_> i think this might have something to do with it
[01:26] <Stormx2> Parmenion: Can you ensure that the device is off, and interfaces (kzenexplorer, gnomad2, etc) are not running, and that it is switched to "lock"?
[01:26] <x0x_> Parmenion: try an lsusb -v with the device plugged in and check out the maxpower for me?
[01:27] <Parmenion> Stormx2, its a zen v plus, no lock function, x0x_ a moment, ill get my charging cable
[01:27] <DBO> so dave66554, lets here how it went wrong this time =P
[01:28] <aa^way> How to run .pl f iles in ubuntu apache?
[01:28] <Stormx2> Well. Mine is charging. lsusb -v shows Max Power as 500mA. i've charged the device from ubuntu before
[01:28] <aa^way> i did sudo apt-get install apache-perl
[01:28] <mardi> hi all, i've just installed feisty. don't remember it asking for root password during install, can that be set later?
[01:28] <Stormx2> !root | mardi
[01:28] <ubotu> mardi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:28] <chuck`_> aa^way : you need chmod the scripts so they can be executed, and put them in your cgi-bin
[01:28] <aa^way> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:28] <aa^way>  apache-perl
[01:28] <aa^way> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:28] <mardi> Stormx2: thanks!
[01:29] <Parmenion> x0x_, i cant find the darned cable right now :\ sorry
[01:29] <Stormx2> mardi: Root is disabled, basically
[01:29] <aa^way> thanks chuck
[01:29] <pisq> what does xox mean?
[01:29] <chuck`_> aa^way : Or, if you want the scripts to be executed in directories other than cgi-bin, you need to edit your apache2.conf to set .cgi and .pl files to be executed by the perl interpreter
[01:29] <x0x_> Stormx2: its very strange though, cos i charge my phone everyday through my usb, and as soon as i finished the upgrade to feisty and rebooted, i noticed it wasnt charging
[01:29] <x0x_> same problem on my desktop and my laptop
[01:30] <dave66554> DBO - sorry your gonna be dissapointed... no change.. did u check that link i sent?
[01:30] <Stormx2> x0x_: File a bug
[01:30] <pisq> oh
[01:30] <DBO> dave66554, yes I did... and yes its related
[01:30] <DBO> dave66554, there have been lots of problems with hda-snd-intel in this kernel
[01:31] <rausb0> x0x_: check the output of "dmesg" for something like "over current on port ..."
[01:31] <dave66554> DBO  - well i suspose thats a good thing....in that if its many ppl that will grab suitable ppls attention to fix....hopefully!
[01:31] <moggio> which runlevel is non x?
[01:31] <DBO> dave66554, lspci | grep -i audio
[01:32] <dave66554> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:32] <Frogzoo> moggio: there isn't one per default
[01:32] <x0x_> [172184.929388]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 18
[01:32] <x0x_> [176433.818390]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 19
[01:32] <x0x_> [176434.016557]  usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:32] <aa^way> hey chuck`_ : i did all it, the pl file is in cgi-bin/form.pl
[01:32] <x0x_> thats from dmesg
[01:32] <aa^way> form.pl is chmod ( it can do whatever )
[01:32] <x0x_> nothing out of the ordinary
[01:32] <aa^way> what it does, the browsers asks download form.pl
[01:32] <rausb0> x0x_: hmmm
[01:33] <dromer> hi all, I've been getting this hundred of times it my dmesg lately: [58215.924000]  APIC error on CPU0: 01(01)   anybody know what it is?
[01:33] <diablos_raven> DBO, no flashing lights
[01:33] <aa^way> my reg.html: /ii/reg.html and form.pl : /ii/cgi-bin/form.pl
[01:33] <aa^way> should the cgi-bin be placed in HOME?
[01:33] <Parmenion> x0x_, its 500mA :P
[01:33] <Stormx2> dromer: Changed any bios settings lately?
[01:33] <DBO> diablos_raven, ah it just happened I take it?  can you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old for error messages please?
[01:33] <dromer> Stormx2: nope
[01:33] <moggio> Frogzoo:what's the easiest way to boot without X?
[01:33] <Stormx2> aa^way: In your http root directory
[01:33] <dromer> Stormx2: not that i know of
[01:33] <x0x_> rausb0: ive searched quite thouroughly through google, and i see theres quite a lot of ppl have the same prob, but no solutions
[01:33] <amorphous_> I just pressed ^s at a prompt and got a search prompt! anyone know what this is/how to use it? i cant seem to type anythng into it...
[01:34] <qos> hey guys, it there a way to change the default system filemanager nautilus against thunar?
[01:34] <Stormx2> dromer: Google it? ubuntuforums.org search?
[01:34] <gmvsgm> ola
[01:34] <rausb0> x0x_: i don't such a phone, sorry i can't help
[01:34] <x0x_> Parmenion: and it used to work fine in edgy?
[01:34] <Filthpig> does ubuntu have some program to convert bin/cue-files to iso?
[01:34] <mjr> Filthpig, bchunk
[01:35] <gmvsgm> ii
[01:35] <gmvsgm> olaola
[01:35] <gmvsgm> 8979'7bv9867v0960
[01:35] <gmvsgm> 87 8v0
[01:35] <Parmenion> x0x_, the last version i used before feisty was hoary :P
[01:35] <diablos_raven> DBO, is there a way to send it to you i dont know what imlooking at or what your looking for
[01:35] <Parmenion> so yeah, no edgy :P
[01:35] <x0x_> rausb0: it happens with quite a few devices, but thanks
[01:35] <Filthpig> mjr: ah, thanks. I remembered there was a program, but I couldn't remember the name :)
[01:35] <l-form> hello there
[01:35] <dromer> btw, since the last upgrade (edgy->feisty) I can't use my dual-boot with windows aynmore, grub then gives an Error 13
[01:35] <Frogzoo> moggio: sudo mv /etc/rc3.d/S13gdm /etc/rc3.d/K13gdm   - then add a grub option in /boot/grub/menu.lst "# altoptions=(nox) 3" - sudo update-grub
[01:36] <x0x_> Parmenion: im gonna get my ipod from the car, wanna see if the same thing happens
[01:36] <aa^way> Stormx2 : root? whats that
[01:36] <XBehave> !grub2
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <aa^way> i got /var/www/ so i put it in /var/ ?
[01:36] <DBO> diablos_raven, put it on www.pastebin.ca and give me the link
[01:36] <moggio> Frogzoo: thanks
[01:36] <l-form> fatal:locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[01:36] <l-form> what's that?
[01:36] <Frogzoo> moggio: cheers
[01:36] <Xeonwales> Hi there, im new to linux & need some help with accessin my windows vista after installing ubuntu. Grub does not show windows. Can anyone help?
[01:36] <chuck`_> is there a keyboard shortcut to restart X and the default window manager?
[01:36] <chuck`_> Or something I can put in the terminal
[01:36] <l-form> ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:37] <qos> it there a way to change the default system filemanager nautilus against thunar?
[01:37] <Pici> chuck`_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart , and its safer than ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:37] <Stormx2> aa^way: By default, /var/www. Create cgi-bin and put it there
[01:37] <chuck`_> Thanks
[01:37] <chuck`_> Pici : why safe?
[01:37] <chuck`_> +r
[01:37] <Pici> chuck`_: ctrl-alt-backspace does a force kill, the restart cleans up after the processes
[01:37] <x0x_> Parmenion: ipod charges fine..
[01:38] <DBO> qos, as dumb as this is going to sound... and please dont shoot the messenger here... no there is not
[01:38] <chuck`_> Oh, okay
[01:38] <Frogzoo> chuck`_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:38] <diablos_raven> DBO, http://www.pastebin.ca/504970
[01:38] <Xeonwales> Hi there, im new to linux & need some help with accessin my windows vista after installing ubuntu. Grub does not show windows. Can anyone help? I installed ubuntu on a partition i already had
[01:38] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Sure you didn't overwrite it?
[01:38] <DBO> diablos_raven, nothing handy... did alt + sysrq + k help you out?
[01:38] <Parmenion> x0x_, i just gave up on it for now :p charging it on my communal home pc now ... ive got a major exam on monday... dont want to spend time medding atm :P
[01:39] <x0x_> Parmenion: no worries, its just irritating, cos all my pc's have feisty on!!
[01:39] <Xeonwales> sure, ubuntu is installed on a 7gb partition. I cant access my 300gb hdd from ubuntu, get an error message: Unable to mount the selected volume
[01:39] <diablos_raven> DBO, i forgot to try it
[01:39] <andrew[andrboot] > hey geys my problem is this, my res in my xorg config is 1204x768 on all 3 counts.. but my res in the system-administratorion-res is only 1024x768 anyway to change that or force it to run at 1204
[01:39] <Parmenion> x0x_, tell me about it .. thank god i left one box out of my purges :P
[01:39] <diablos_raven> DBO ill try it again
[01:40] <DBO> diablos_raven, can you do the crash consistently?
[01:40] <diablos_raven> DBO, alli was doing was looking at a flash web page
[01:40] <diablos_raven> DBO, yes
[01:40] <qos> DBO, damn cause there is an option to change the default browser and email apps ...
[01:40] <DBO> so flash = hard lock...  niiice
[01:41] <DBO> qos, I know... annoying isn't it?
[01:41] <x0x_> Parmenion: one other thing, can you still access it if its connected? and upload music?
[01:41] <Xeonwales> Hi there, im new to linux & need some help with accessin my windows vista after installing ubuntu. Grub does not show windows. Can anyone help? ubuntu is installed on a 7gb partition. I cant access my 300gb hdd from ubuntu, get an error message: Unable to mount the selected volume
[01:41] <Parmenion> x0x_, yep
[01:42] <x0x_> kewl
[01:42] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Filesystem?
[01:42] <qos> DBO, yeah ... i am still missing a commander style filemanager full of features ...
[01:42] <diablos_raven> DBO, in about 10 - 15 minutes with a flash page and various with movie file(avi, vob, etc.)
[01:42] <nuu> Xeonwales: which is the partition Vista is on ?
[01:42] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: NTFS?
[01:42] <Xeonwales> NTFS
[01:42] <diablos_raven> DBO, with and without l-r-m drivers
[01:42] <aa^way> Stormx2 : The cgi-bin is made /var/www and inside it formmail.pl, now i write localhost/cgi-bin/formmail.pl and it says the file is not found, hmm?
[01:42] <nuu> Xeonwales: you need to manually add a GRUB entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst that will access the Vista partition and make the boot from there
[01:43] <aa^way> if i access cgi-bin, it says access denied
[01:43] <aa^way> The requested URL /cgi-bin/formmail.pl was not found on this server.
[01:43] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: One moment, please
[01:43] <Xeonwales> nuu cheers... uumm..... how do i do that?
[01:43] <DBO> diablos_raven, what if you disable sound all together (just unload the module that your sound card uses)
[01:43] <Xeonwales> Stormx2 ok
[01:43] <nuu> Xeonwales: do a "sudo fdisk -l" and paste its contents on pastebin
[01:43] <Me> the GUI will not work on start up
[01:44] <diablos_raven> DBO, why
[01:44] <Me> it says somethings turned off
[01:44] <nuu> about pastebin,
[01:44] <Me> and yeah//
[01:44] <nuu> !paste | Xeonwales
[01:44] <DBO> diablos_raven, just want to rule out your sound card as a potential cause
[01:44] <Me> what to do?
[01:44] <nuu> Xeonwales: pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:44] <ubotu> Xeonwales: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:44] <andrew[andrboot] > hey geys my problem is this, my res in my xorg config is 1204x768 on all 3 counts.. but my res in the system-administratorion-res is only 1024x768 anyway to change that or force it to run at 1204
[01:44] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Applications > Accessories > Terminal. Type this without the quotes: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[01:44] <Me> hey
[01:44] <Me> guys
[01:45] <diablos_raven> DBO, it froze loading thumbs of movie files as well so i already ruled that out
[01:45] <Me> my problem is that i got a copy of ubuntu off apc
[01:45] <Me> and burnt it
[01:45] <Me> it boots
[01:45] <Xeonwales> Reading package lists... Done
[01:45] <Xeonwales> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:45] <Xeonwales> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-3g
[01:45] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Wait, no. Better idea! sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:45] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Please use a pastebin.
[01:45] <nuu> Stormx2: he's trying to boot into vista from what i understand, not get write access to its partition, no ?
[01:45] <Me> but it goes into terminal after i use start ad install
[01:45] <Xeonwales> udo fdisk -l
[01:45] <DBO> diablos_raven, ahhhh hmmm now you have managed to complete detach symptoms here...
[01:45] <nuu> Xeonwales: that'll help you get write access to your partition, but didn't you say you want to boot into it ?
[01:45] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: You need to enable universe
[01:45] <Me> then it says cannot staert (i forget) (iforget) turned off
[01:45] <Xeonwales> pastebin?
[01:46] <Stormx2> nuu: uhg.... who was trying to mount an ntfs partition then?
[01:46] <nuu> Stormx2: no idea :)
[01:46] <Me> so what do i do?
[01:46] <diablos_raven> DBO, ive used my friends streaming audio site without any conflict
[01:46] <Xeonwales> chris@chris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:46] <Xeonwales> Reading package lists... Done
[01:46] <Xeonwales> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:46] <Xeonwales> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-config
[01:46] <Xeonwales> chris@chris-desktop:~$
[01:46] <Stormx2> nuu: "I cant access my 300gb hdd from ubuntu, get an error message: Unable to mount the selected volume"
[01:46] <DBO> diablos_raven, does it only do this on flash videos?
[01:46] <DBO> or does all flash do it
[01:46] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: For the last time. People have explained what a pastebin is to you.
[01:46] <Stormx2> !pastebin | Xeonwales
[01:46] <yobrien> tsk tsk
[01:46] <ubotu> Xeonwales: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <Xeonwales> thanx
[01:47] <Me> anyonje gpnna elp?
[01:47] <Me> anyone gonna?
[01:47] <nuu> Stormx2: ok he asks for both then :)
[01:47] <Xeonwales> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22132/
[01:47] <nuu> Stormx2: he also says "grub doesnt show windows anymore" :)
[01:47] <yobrien> !ask ....
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask .... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <yobrien> !ask
[01:47] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:47] <Stormx2> Me: First thing, don't say "anyone gonna help?" etc. Second, what errors do you receive?
[01:47] <Me> i have
[01:47] <diablos_raven> DBO, my system has froze running flash sites, loading thumbs for movie files and in the examples folder which is loaded by install and running movie files
[01:48] <Stormx2> !universe | Xeonwales
[01:48] <ubotu> Xeonwales: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:48] <Me> when i try and installl it say: cant access tty: job control turned off
[01:48] <Me> what do i do?
[01:48] <Stormx2> Me: Could you verify the CD please? It is an option when you boot
[01:48] <diablos_raven> DBO you see my confusion but other than that it runs fine even sites that run gif files in php like www.phantasyrpg.com does without conflict
[01:48] <nuu> Xeonwales: there's a slight understanding problem here: stormx is trying to help with write access to the ntfs partition, i'm trying to help with booting into vista again. now WHAT do you want to be helped with ? so that we don't talk together, with the obvious result of your head exploding into tiny little pieces
[01:48] <yobrien> Me: search on g00g13?
[01:48] <DBO> diablos_raven, to be honest those dont have very much in common... which makes it hard to figure out what is going on...
[01:49] <Stormx2> Me: Did you verify the iso before you burnt it?
[01:49] <Me> mmkay.
[01:49] <Stormx2> yobrien: not helpful... this is a common problem
[01:49] <Me> mmmhm.
[01:49] <Xeonwales> nuu lol, ok, i want to be able to boot into vista
[01:49] <Me> yeah
[01:49] <yobrien> Stormx2: yeah thats the whole point
[01:49] <Me> ,i have solaris at the mo
[01:49] <nuu> ok Xeonwales. use pastebin and put there the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:49] <Me> but my sister wants to burrn it.
[01:49] <Stormx2> yobrien: A common problem with multiple causes
[01:50] <diablos_raven> DBO, i have reinstalled 3 times with my raptor drive by itself and with my other drives all connected
[01:50] <Stormx2> Me: Please verify the CD and get back to us, k?
[01:50] <Me> so check cd for errors?
[01:50] <Stormx2> Me: Yup =]
[01:50] <DBO> diablos_raven, and it always does this?
[01:50] <Me> kl
[01:50] <Me> thnx
[01:50] <diablos_raven> DBO yes and its making me crazy
[01:50] <Xeonwales> nuu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22133/
[01:50] <Stormx2> diablos_raven: Which version on flash do you have installed?
[01:50] <yobrien> this channel starting to sound like tech support call
[01:50] <DBO> diablos_raven, can I please have your /var/log/kernel in pastebin
[01:50] <DBO> just for kicks
[01:51] <sarthor> Hi, I have 3com isdn pro ta card.. connected with com port to my linux pc/ how to creat dialer???
[01:51] <diablos_raven> stormx2, default i never installed anything for flash
[01:51] <Me> its still starting up/
[01:51] <Stormx2> diablos_raven: You may want to go grab flash 9 (I think it's the latest version). There is certainly a guide on ubuntuforums.org and it may be in the wiki
[01:52] <nuu> ok Xeonwales. try editing /boot/grub/menu.lst as root, and add these lines: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22134/
[01:52] <Me> it says the same thing.
[01:52] <Merjin> is there a way to make 'ls' always return stuff like 'ls -l'?
[01:52] <diablos_raven> DBO, kern.0.log?
[01:52] <rausb0> Me: you missed the point. the check cd option is in the boot menu.
[01:52] <Me> and below it it says (initramfs)-
[01:52] <Me> *_
[01:52] <DBO> diablos_raven, yeah sure, whatever they are calling it now days
[01:52] <Stormx2> Me: Sounds like a bad ISO or a bad burn.
[01:52] <nuu> Merjin: edit your user's ~/.bashrc
[01:52] <Me> the check cd for errors?
[01:52] <diablos_raven> stormx2, its not just flash that freezes its movie files 2
[01:52] <Stormx2> !verify | Me
[01:52] <ubotu> Me: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:52] <Me> cause thats what i  clicked
[01:52] <rausb0> Me: yes
[01:53] <Stormx2> diablos_raven: Are they played using flash?
[01:53] <rausb0> Me: *clicked* that?
[01:53] <nuu> Merjin: and add an alias at the bottom, saying something like alias ls='ls -l'
[01:53] <Me> u no
[01:53] <Me> selected
[01:53] <Stormx2> diablos_raven: Youtube, etc. Or are they actual files (.avi etc)
[01:53] <Me> click is easier to type
[01:53] <Me> ,
[01:53] <nuu> Merjin: btw, are you the same merjin that coded hijackthis ?
[01:53] <rausb0> Me: i suppose you selected with cursor keys and pressed return
[01:53] <diablos_raven> DBO, http://www.pastebin.ca/504997
[01:53] <Stormx2> Me: Please collect your thoughts before hitting "enter".
[01:53] <DBO> Stormx2, it freezes even with the totem thumbnailer
[01:53] <Stormx2> Odd.
[01:53] <diablos_raven> stormx2, both and thumbs of avi files
[01:53] <Me> i ran check cd for defects
[01:54] <enigma_> nuu: that would be funny if it was
[01:54] <chupacabra> Does anyone have a recommendation for a document that outlines how to make DEB packages under Ubuntu?
[01:54] <nuu> what would enigma_? the same merjin you mean ? :)
[01:54] <Me> ohkay.
[01:54] <Xeonwales> nuu do i need to be logged in as root to edit it?
[01:54] <Stormx2> chupacabra: I think checkinstall does that...
[01:54] <enigma_> nuu : yes
[01:54] <DBO> diablos_raven, do you have a kernel.1.log?
[01:54] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: Use sudo
[01:54] <nuu> Xeonwales: you can use a text editor like nano, by typing "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[01:54] <Stormx2> Xeonwales: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:54] <nuu> Xeonwales: that will launch nano as root
[01:54] <rausb0> Me: and did the check cd return any error messages?
[01:54] <diablos_raven> DBO, nope ust kern.log and kern.0.log
[01:55] <Merjin> nuu > wouldn't ls='ls -l' make a recursive loop?
[01:55] <diablos_raven> DBO sorry kern.log.0
[01:55] <Merjin> yes I made Hijackthis
[01:55] <chupacabra> Stormx2: Thanks, I'll check out checkinstall.
[01:55] <Me> so i pressed the down arrow a few times till it was over check cd for errrors
[01:55] <Me> then i pressed return
[01:55] <Stormx2> Merjin: :O You did?
[01:55] <Stormx2> Me: And?
[01:55] <DBO> diablos_raven, ok thanks... and nothing that helpful in there =/
[01:55] <nuu> Merjin: nope, no recursive loop. an alias gets parsed first and then the ls command gets invoked. and good job on those anti tools;)
[01:55] <Me> and now its showing the ubuntu loading screen and reving the drive a lot
[01:56] <Me> and it says what it was saying the last few times.
[01:56] <DBO> diablos_raven, you wanna try something fun?  playing a movie with cause it to freeze right?
[01:56] <Stormx2> Me: Okay. if it returns any errors, let us know, k?
[01:56] <Me> cant access ttty: job control turned off
[01:56] <enigma_> Merjin : what made you want to make hijackthis?
[01:56] <Stormx2> Me: Okay. You've had a bad burn or a bad iso.
[01:57] <Stormx2> !verify | Me
[01:57] <ubotu> Me: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:57] <Stormx2> Me: Please follow the first link ubotu just gave you. Thanks
[01:57] <diablos_raven> DBO, the only thing with that is that i dont know how long its going to take to freeze but with flash it takes a specific amount of time
[01:57] <Me> ohka
[01:57] <Me> ll just burn again.
[01:57] <Me> thanx.
[01:57] <Merjin> enigma_ > a lot of the removal procedures back then were the same so I thought it could be automated
[01:57] <Stormx2> Me: Wait just a second.
[01:57] <Me> anyway
[01:57] <Merjin> ls='ls -l' works but the pretty colors are gone, how come?
[01:57] <Stormx2> Me: Burn at a slow speed. 4x or below
[01:58] <Me> do i still need to use terminal like in solaris to install drivers?
[01:58] <DBO> diablos_raven, ok, open a flash site/video whatever, and switch to a TTY
[01:58] <Me> k
[01:58] <DBO> see if you get any error message diablos_raven
[01:58] <Stormx2> Me: Depends on the driver, etc
[01:58] <Stormx2> Me: Chances are, no.
[01:58] <Me> \dlink wierless?
[01:58] <enigma_> Merjin : quick question about hijack this, why does it return error 75 when I run it?
[01:58] <Me> great
[01:58] <nuu> Merjin: alias ls='ls -l --color=auto'
[01:58] <Xeonwales> nuu ok, done that, gonna reboot now
[01:58] <diablos_raven> DBO, tty switch is ctrl+alt+f1 or whatever right
[01:58] <Merjin> enigma_ > are you running vista?
[01:58] <Me> its really annoying installing them through it.
[01:59] <Xeonwales> brb
[01:59] <DBO> diablos_raven, you got it
[01:59] <nuu> Merjin: you may wanna use another command for that type of ls anyway. "l" is my favorite alias
[01:59] <Stormx2> Merjin: Good work on HijackThis! I constantly use it on my brother's machine
[01:59] <nuu> good luck xeo
[01:59] <enigma_> Merjin: no, but the system i am running it on is
[01:59] <diablos_raven> DBO its been awhile since ive used linux so im trying to retrain myself
[01:59] <DBO> Merjin, standard is to alias ll to ls -l
[01:59] <diablos_raven> DBO, ok brb
[01:59] <rausb0> Me: however, knowledge of shell commands is helpful on *any* unixlike system