[12:09] <surgy> draik: didnt cross my mind till just now, why dont i go the torent route man im glad i thought of that
[12:09] <draik> try it surgy
[12:09] <intelikey> CUM_SIURAN ifconfig eth0 [ip]  up
[12:09] <zorgluuu> all the other ones in english explain it for gnome and only put little notes about what to change for kubuntu
[12:09] <intelikey> CUM_SIURAN or did you mean modem ?
[12:09] <draik> Isnt torrent the #1 way to get linux distros?
[12:09] <brkamikaze> zorgluuu: if you can, could you translate it and put it on the english wiki? :)
[12:10] <CUM_SIURAN> I meant ethernet
[12:10] <CUM_SIURAN> well, wlan actually
[12:10] <CUM_SIURAN> but yeah
[12:10] <CUM_SIURAN> what if I get the ip from dhcp?
[12:10] <zorgluuu> brkamikaze, ok i will, first i have to test it tho :)
[12:10] <Stardog> anyone know how to install printer-driver? the ordinary way doesn't work
[12:10] <brkamikaze> CUM_SIURAN: if you get it from dhcp you need to fear nothing
[12:10] <intelikey> getting in ober my head CUM_SIURAN, i'm network illiterate.
[12:11] <CUM_SIURAN> brkm: huh?
[12:11] <intelikey> Stardog which 'ordinary way' ?
[12:12] <brkamikaze> CUM_SIURAN: if dhcp is working, then the network is configured as long as the dhcp server is working
[12:12] <Stardog> intelikey: "add printer" in system settings... every time i try to download the driver i get the msg, that either the driver doesn't exists or i dont have the rights
[12:12] <CUM_SIURAN> well, the network isn't work
[12:12] <CUM_SIURAN> ing
[12:12] <CUM_SIURAN> and the dhcp server must be working
[12:13] <CUM_SIURAN> becuase I am on that same network on another computer right now
[12:13] <intelikey> Stardog kdesu that app
[12:13] <intelikey> become root
[12:13] <Martijn81> CUM_SIURAN: since 6.06.1 i had todo: sudo dhclient ethx
[12:13] <brkamikaze> CUM_SIURAN: sudo dhclient
[12:13] <intelikey> use the force
[12:13] <intelikey> feel the power
[12:13] <Martijn81> CUM_SIURAN: every boot that is
[12:14] <Stardog> intelikey: what command do i run?
[12:14] <routh> damn - loading the module didn't work - ubuntu really needs alsaconf - when I run alsamixer I get "lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" - and my games don't have sound - however beep media player has sound with alsa - because I can choose hw0,0 or hw0,1 with the plugin.. anything that tries to use 'default' fails
[12:14] <Stardog> well.... Im considering meself a newbie :p
[12:15] <routh> anyone have an idea for my plight?
[12:15] <intelikey> i don't know.  i don't run a GUI   maybe cupsdconf "
[12:15] <CUM_SIURAN> I got "no DHCPOFFERS received"
[12:16] <draik> Stardog, have you tried both of the drivers? If there is more than one listed for the same printer? I had that same issue
[12:16] <brkamikaze> CUM_SIURAN: then the dhcp server isn't working OR you can't reach the network
[12:16] <shadowr3d> hello
[12:16] <Stardog> draik: yes... tried everyone.... same errormsg i get
[12:16] <draik> weird
[12:17] <m4rc0sss> good by ;)
[12:17] <draik> what's your printer?
[12:17] <Stardog> draik: hpc 750
[12:17] <shadowr3d> does anyone know how to get a scanner working?
[12:17] <intelikey> draik i might have misread him.  but it sounds like he's not getting root perms.
[12:17] <CUM_SIURAN> brkam: how do I reach the network then?
[12:17] <shadowr3d> anyone
[12:17] <Stardog> draik: HP psc 750 i ment
[12:17] <intelikey> dont ya still gotta be root to add a printer
[12:17] <shadowr3d> LINUX YEAH
[12:17] <shadowr3d> gfgfdgfdgf
[12:17] <shadowr3d> d
[12:17] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:17] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:17] <shadowr3d> dg
[12:18] <shadowr3d> g
[12:18] <shadowr3d> fg
[12:18] <draik> intelikey, that might be the issue
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gdg
[12:18] <InuDuelist> No spamming.
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gd
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfdgfd
[12:18] <InuDuelist> Stop spamming.
[12:18] <shadowr3d> g
[12:18] <shadowr3d> who are you
[12:18] <shadowr3d> who are you
[12:18] <NickGarvey> the ops will be angry...
[12:18] <intelikey> and i have used   HP psc 750    pretty good medium quality multi device.
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfdgfdg
[12:18] <shadowr3d> f
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:18] <shadowr3d> g
[12:18] <shadowr3d> fg
[12:18] <shadowr3d> f
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <Martijn81> op?
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <NickGarvey> !ops
[12:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[12:18] <shadowr3d> g
[12:18] <connyosis> shadowr3d: asswhipe, stop being a little punk
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <InuDuelist> You do realize that I permaban is just a right click away, right?
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfd
[12:18] <routh> grow the hell up kid
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gf
[12:18] <shadowr3d> gfgf
[12:19] <shadowr3d> gfg
[12:19] <shadowr3d> f
[12:19] <InuDuelist> NPOwned.
[12:19] <connyosis> thank you
[12:19] <NickGarvey> thanks
[12:19] <draik> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
[12:19] <routh> woot
[12:19] <InuDuelist> What a nab.
[12:19] <InuDuelist> Continue on with your talking of the printers.
[12:19] <draik> please
[12:19] <intelikey> and i have used   HP psc 750    pretty good medium quality multi device.
[12:20] <routh> Now anyone know anyway to configure the default alsa card in ubuntu - they must have something since they "refuse" to put alsaconf in
[12:20] <intelikey> but the only issue i had was just "be root"  and add it.
[12:20] <connyosis> routh: what do you mean by configure? Isn't alsamixer enough?
[12:21] <draik> I am not sure what I did to fix the printer issue other than reboot and try again
[12:21] <routh> connyosis - I'm going to repeat my ealier message to bring you up to speed
[12:21] <routh> damn - loading the module didn't work - ubuntu really needs alsaconf - when I run alsamixer I get "lsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" - and my games don't have sound - however beep media player has sound with alsa - because I can choose hw0,0 or hw0,1 with the plugin.. anything that tries to use 'default' fails
[12:21] <Stardog> intelikey: so how do i Become root to this kind of operations?
[12:21] <intelikey> repoot   lol
[12:21] <draik> LOL
[12:21] <connyosis> routh: I see.
[12:22] <intelikey> Stardog the way i did it, (this isn't the *buntu way)  was  drop to console and startx as root.
[12:22] <InuDuelist> No, I'm not.
[12:22] <InuDuelist> Deathmaster, but thanks anyway.
[12:22] <intelikey> it's the cli guy  kinda thing    ya know.
[12:22] <draik> Stardog, you're not asked for a password or anything when you go into your System Settings?
[12:22] <routh> connyosis: So I need to configure alsa somehow - anything else I would run alsaconf - I like ubuntu though and would like to find a native resolution to this
[12:22] <intelikey> Stardog want a 123 on it ?
[12:23] <Stardog> draik: no... no passwords
[12:23] <draik> intelikey, I'll take it if stardog doesn't
[12:23] <draik> hmmm
[12:23] <Stardog> intelikey: i would like that yes
[12:23] <draik> ditto
[12:23] <connyosis> routh: yeah I can understand that
[12:24] <routh> connyosis: googling just seems to produce a lot of forums with complaints about not having alsaconf - and I found the thread where the developers explain why they left alsaconf out - but I'm pulling my hair out, as there's lots of complaints - but no solution...
[12:25] <Kr4t05> Is there anything special that I need to do when I upgrade to KDE 3.5.4?
[12:25] <intelikey> [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]    login    sudo su -     then /etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx        when you log out of the root kde restart it like this    /etc/init.d/kdm start & exit
[12:25] <intelikey> Stardog ^
[12:26] <connyosis> routh: what error do you get when trying to load the module for your card?
[12:26] <routh> routh: None-  they load fine
[12:26] <intelikey> pretty simple stuff for a  cli user.
[12:26] <Stardog> ill try
[12:27] <connyosis> routh: what kind of card is it?
[12:27] <intelikey> let me quote actuall typed commands for you.
[12:27] <routh> connyosis: none they load fine - talking to mysefl there - I need to tell alsa to use hw0,0 or hw0,1 - it's a Sound Blaster PCI 128 model ct 4700
[12:27] <intelikey> press keys ->"[ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] "   login    sudo su -     then "/etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx "        when you log out of the root kde restart it like this    "/etc/init.d/kdm start & exit "
[12:28] <intelikey> oops  missed the sudo part.
[12:28] <intelikey> "sudo su -"
[12:28] <phreakys> ow man
[12:28] <routh> connyosis: in beep media player I can specify that rather than default, it should use one of the other two alsa cards showing for my card - if I specify either of the other ones it works
[12:28] <phreakys> i really start to hate ati stuff
[12:28] <intelikey> if the quotes help clear it up any.
[12:28] <boeroe> hello here a stupid question of a newbie . i download firefox and untared it wit tar -xv...
[12:28] <routh> connyosis: if I tell beep to use default - I wind up with the same issue in beep as in games.. no sound
[12:29] <boeroe> waht miust i do to install further firefox?
[12:29] <phreakys> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:29] <phreakys> get it from the repositories boeroe
[12:29] <Kr4t05> boeroe: sudo apt-get install firefox, you don't need to compile it from source.
[12:29] <phreakys> or with adept
[12:29] <boeroe> ok thx will try it.
[12:29] <draik> you already have it ready for install
[12:29] <boeroe> yes i untarred it
[12:30] <nagyv> I can not openany connections in the browsers (Firefox, Konqueror). Although with ping it seems tah I know the IP-address. Any ideas?
[12:30] <boeroe> everything is in a directory firefox
[12:30] <sledge> Does somebody know about a X11 proxy that forwards mouse/keyboard input to an X server?
[12:30] <boeroe> oke thx preakys
[12:30] <phreakys> np
[12:31] <phreakys> if someone can help me with fglrx setup, would be great
[12:31] <intelikey> nagyv been playing with firewall ?
[12:31] <connyosis> routh: checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 ?
[12:31] <connyosis> routh: maybe something there to help you
[12:32] <nagyv> intelikey: there is a firewall, but I do not administer it. This problem comes back from time-to-time, but then I can use the net again.
[12:33] <intelikey> nagyv ;/   sorry no help.
[12:34] <Kr4t05> Gee...
[12:34] <Kr4t05> This camera worked fine in breezy...
[12:34] <Kr4t05> Maybe I should downgrade. :/
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> left grade!
[12:35] <boeroe> Pacific Airways
[12:35] <boeroe> Reading package lists... Done
[12:35] <boeroe> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:35] <boeroe> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:35] <boeroe> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:35] <boeroe> is only available from another source
[12:35] <boeroe> However the following packages replace it:
[12:35] <boeroe>   libnss3
[12:35] <routh> connyosis: That document leads me to the same dead end with no answer - I run aplay -l and get my soundcard - so it tells me to run alsamixer - but it has no info if you have an error with alsamixer - so I dead end and the document is useless
[12:35] <boeroe> this is what i get phreaky
[12:35] <boeroe> what must i do?
[12:35] <phreakys> ah
[12:35] <boeroe> phreaky
[12:35] <boeroe> ?
[12:35] <phreakys> ehm, maybe you have to uncomment some repositories
[12:36] <phreakys> go to console, and enter: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:36] <intelikey> !repos > boeroe
[12:36] <boeroe> i dont understand what is apt get is supposed to do?
[12:36] <Kr4t05> !apt
[12:36] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:36] <boeroe> ok
[12:36] <phreakys> it installs software for you
[12:37] <intelikey> s/installs/manages/ ^
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Hmm  Some how i got a "Kat  Desktop Search Enviroment" - but the kitty wont search for nothing. :)
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> i think i need to RTFM
[12:37] <draik> boeroe, type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[12:39] <routh> connyosis: brb - going to try another idea I found - manually creating asound.conf and rebooting
[12:39] <Martijn81> moment what for?
[12:39] <connyosis> routh: do that, I'll check around as well
[12:39] <boeroe> oke will try that draik
[12:39] <draik> hope it works out for you boeroe
[12:39] <Martijn81> stupid me...
[12:40] <intelikey> Martijn81 where brkamikaze went away to
[12:40] <draik> I remember my physics professor telling us about moments... it's only as good as a picture
[12:40] <Martijn81> yeah i noticed, little late though...
[12:40] <intelikey> :)
[12:40] <boeroe> same sjet draik
[12:41] <draik> hmmm
[12:41] <boeroe> Reading package lists... Done
[12:41] <boeroe> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:41] <boeroe> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:41] <boeroe> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:41] <boeroe> is only available from another source
[12:41] <boeroe> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[12:41] <draik> !pastebin > boeroe
[12:41] <boeroe> what is !pastebin>
[12:42] <connyosis> boeroe: don't paste a lot of lines in the channel, use pastebin.com
[12:42] <connyosis> boeroe: and then just paste the link here
[12:42] <draik> !pastebin
[12:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:43] <boeroe> ok thx
[12:43] <InuDuelist> Any students in here?
[12:43] <InuDuelist> http://www.mynoteit.com/
[12:43] <draik> before you flood the channel and get kicked for it, paste your output in there and paste your link here for us to see
[12:43] <draik> ^ boeroe
[12:43] <boeroe> this is frustrating can install anything
[12:43] <boeroe> ok will do
[12:44] <draik> boeroe, use adept instead
[12:44] <Kr4t05> boeroe: you may need to enable universe.
[12:44] <Kr4t05> !universe
[12:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:45] <draik> Kr4t05, I didn't think about that... boeroe, try that
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> wowsers... kat crashed and crashed and crashed some more. :P
[12:46] <Kr4t05> Dr_Willis: Do you have any advice for someone upgrading KDE to 3.5.4?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> other then DONT do it. :P
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> lol
[12:46] <Kr4t05> Dr_Willis: Why?
[12:46] <boeroe> you maean sudo adeptinstall firefox?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> no idea really, heck - im not even sure what version i am using.
[12:46] <Kr4t05> Mkay.
[12:47] <boeroe> draik you mean sudo adept install firefox?
[12:47] <draik> no
[12:47] <draik> Are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> looks like i am using 3.5.2 here
[12:47] <Kr4t05> boeroe:  sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:47] <boeroe> kubuntu
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> whats so new in 3.5.4 ?
[12:47] <Kr4t05> Dr_Willis: No idea, but I like surprises. :P
[12:47] <draik> K Menu > System > Adept
[12:48] <boeroe> hmm ok
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> you get your ticket.. andyou takes your chances!
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Ride the Bronco!
[12:48] <Kr4t05> Stupid EasyCam2 complains about gnome.ui
[12:49] <Kr4t05> ><
[12:49] <boeroe> and then waht do i do?
[12:49] <boeroe> draik
[12:49] <Kr4t05> boeroe: nothing.
[12:49] <Kr4t05> boeroe: oh, wait.
[12:49] <boeroe> nothing how is firefox installed then?
[12:50] <Kr4t05> boeroe: type 'firefox' in the search field
[12:50] <boeroe> already did that
[12:50] <Kr4t05> Did anything show up in the menu below?
[12:50] <draik> nothing?
[12:51] <Phoul> anyone know of a program that i can use to check to see what folders are taking up the most amout of space on my hd?
[12:51] <boeroe> gave mozilla firefox language package
[12:51] <Kr4t05> Arg...
[12:51] <Kr4t05> BRB
[12:51] <Riddell> Phoul: du -h
[12:51] <Kr4t05> I need to restart. ><
[12:51] <routh> connyosis: That did it
[12:51] <boeroe> draik still there
[12:52] <draik> yup
[12:52] <nonickname_> can anyone help me with setting up dhcpd?
[12:52] <boeroe> so what is the problem
[12:52] <draik> not sure what's going on with your setup
[12:52] <routh> connyosis: had to specify hw:0,0 - alsamixer still fails to work - because of the lack of alsaconf - however my sound works in everything now
[12:52] <draik> ok
[12:52] <draik> open a window to pastebin
[12:53] <draik> !pastebin
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:53] <draik> there's the link for you in case you need it
[12:54] <boeroe> did it already create a link named test but how do i get this link in this chat
[12:55] <boeroe> hmm jsut read something about webboard
[12:55] <richard> I've got a problem with Clamav,Klamav, Clamav-base, fresh-clam. . . . it will not install with adept because it returns an error saying all of the dependency files weren't loaded or could be loaded. . . anyone else have this problem? What's the fix?
[12:55] <boeroe> but then i have to install dpkg again an installation problem
[12:55] <boeroe> :-)
[12:56] <draik> boeroe
[12:56] <boeroe> YES RICHARD me
[12:56] <richard> I run dpkg --configure -a in Konsole to get everything else loaded onto my system. . .
[12:56] <draik> open a Run Command
[12:56] <draik> [ALT]  + [F2]
[12:56] <boeroe> and then?
[12:57] <draik> type          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <richard> Klamav also has problems . . . .in the past it would indicate a new update was needed to be installed so it would download but never really install it. . . .
[12:58] <draik> got it open?
[12:59] <boeroe> yep
[12:59] <richard> Anyways any help with Clamav would be appreciated. ...
[12:59] <draik> copy everything (right click and click on Select All)
[12:59] <draik> paste it into a pastebin
[01:00] <boeroe> done
[01:00] <draik> link to pastebin?
[01:00] <richard> Any idea's  ??
[01:01] <boeroe> i feel so stupid but where is the link how do i get it here?
[01:01] <draik> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <boeroe> i called it sourceslist and can see it at the right
[01:02] <draik> the link is the URL on the top
[01:02] <draik> got it
[01:02] <draik> don't worry
[01:02] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21840
[01:02] <draik> that's your link
[01:02] <boeroe> i clicked on send after typing the name and then it apeared at he right under the heading posts
[01:03] <boeroe> ohhhhh
[01:03] <boeroe> now i het it
[01:03] <boeroe> get it
[01:05] <draik> ok
[01:05] <draik> now open up konsole
[01:05] <brkamikaze> intelikey: he went to dinner
[01:05] <boeroe> done
[01:05] <draik> type          sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[01:06] <boeroe> done
[01:06] <draik> ok
[01:06] <draik> so now you have a backup if this doens't work for you
[01:06] <draik> now
[01:06] <draik> here is my link to your new sources.list
[01:06] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21841
[01:07] <draik> Here is what you do
[01:07] <draik> close konsole
[01:07] <mshade> !qemu
[01:07] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:07] <draik> open the run command again
[01:07] <boeroe> ok
[01:07] <draik> [ALT]  + [F2]
[01:07] <boeroe> done
[01:07] <draik> type          kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <brkamikaze> I updated KDE
[01:08] <brkamikaze> starting logoff procedure...
[01:08] <boeroe> done
[01:08] <draik> then delete everything in there
[01:08] <draik> and paste what I have for you in pastebin
[01:08] <draik> to your sources.list file
[01:08] <boeroe> ok
[01:09] <draik> save it
[01:10] <draik> boeroe, done/
[01:10] <draik> ?
[01:10] <richard> Here are the error messages I get from Clamav: E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:10] <richard> E: clamav-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:10] <richard> E: clamsmtp: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:10] <richard> How do I get it to install?
[01:11] <richard> What dependency files would I be missing?\
[01:11] <richard> Anyone have any idea's
[01:12] <draik> boeroe?
[01:13] <draik> Question for everyone and anyone...
[01:13] <boeroe> ok done cool once you know how to use it with download it puts it for you in a kate editor
[01:13] <boeroe> oke draik
[01:13] <boeroe> whats next
[01:13] <draik> If I attach a 3rd HDD, 80GB, can I install Kubuntu on it and run it from there?
[01:13] <draik> boeroe, open konsole
[01:13] <draik> type         sudo apt-get update
[01:14] <boeroe> done
[01:14] <draik> ok now...
[01:14] <draik> type         sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:14] <boeroe> done
[01:14] <draik> now try it
[01:14] <draik> type         sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:15] <boeroe> oke run it should try to install now?
[01:15] <Martijn81> draik: shouldn't be a problem as long as you keep grub on the first hard disk (asuming you're not taking the alternative road and use NTLDR)
[01:15] <draik> try to install it now with that command
[01:15] <draik> Martijn81, I'm using GRUB
[01:16] <draik> How do I decide where GRUB stays?
[01:16] <Martijn81> draik: you can't AFAIK, it's has to be the first drive because that's where the BIOS is going to look
[01:17] <draik> Martijn81, so when I install it on another HDD, I don't have an option to keep the GRUB on my primary HDD?
[01:17] <Martijn81> so, either the primary master in case of PATA or SATA1 in case of SATA
[01:17] <draik> or do you mean primary HDD as in Master and Slave drives?
[01:18] <Martijn81> draik: yep
[01:18] <draik> oh
[01:18] <draik> yeah
[01:18] <draik> this new HDD will be slave
[01:18] <Martijn81> draik: it always chooses the first drive
[01:18] <draik> that I knew... phew!!!
[01:18] <draik> I thought it was as to where the GRUB wants to be installed
[01:18] <draik> but how do I go about setting up the install?
[01:19] <boeroe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21843
[01:19] <draik> when I choose the drive, I know I'm choosing the new HDD
[01:19] <boeroe> this is what i get
[01:19] <draik> I will look at it right now
[01:19] <draik> boeroe, do you have Adept open?
[01:19] <draik> or anything else controlling your repos?
[01:20] <boeroe> yes hhmm
[01:20] <boeroe> try again
[01:20] <draik> Martijn81, what about the setup? Do I have to tell it to set root (/) to my primary drive or to the new HDD? If I set it to my primary, won't that format the partition I have right now?
[01:21] <draik> boeroe, let me know what happens
[01:22] <MeTa[AwAy] > bb all
[01:22] <boeroe> looks like there where no errors !!!!!!
[01:22] <draik> so you have it installed now boeroe?
[01:22] <boeroe> just checking
[01:23] <draik> K Menu > Internet
[01:23] <boeroe> can not run it...
[01:23] <draik> ???
[01:23] <draik> any errors?
[01:23] <boeroe> with alt f2 firefox
[01:23] <boeroe> let me check what i should do
[01:23] <draik> weird
[01:23] <draik> I can
[01:23] <boeroe> sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:24] <boeroe> and then hwo do i run it?
[01:24] <boeroe> how do i run it
[01:24] <gnomefreak> from the menu
[01:24] <gnomefreak> or from cli with firefox
[01:25] <brkamikaze> gnomefreak: wtf do I always need to run kbuildsycoca after installing a new x11 package?
[01:25] <Martijn81> draik: i have not done a dualboot with linux yet, it might be that the installation give you the option because it detects there's already a / partition, i don't know that, normally grub will just point to / partition installing on for the menu.lst file, but in case of linux dualboot i do not know to be honest
[01:25] <gnomefreak> brkamikaze: i have never run it so i couldnt tell you
[01:26] <ubuntu_> busy busy
[01:26] <draik> Thank your for your input Martijn81
[01:26] <draik> Much appreciated
[01:27] <draik> boeroe, try to reboot
[01:27] <boeroe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21843
[01:27] <boeroe> same eroor when installing
[01:27] <boeroe> error
[01:27] <ubuntu_> ???
[01:28] <draik> hmmm
[01:28] <draik> I'm running out of solutions for you here
[01:28] <draik> I don't think I know what else I can suggest other than a reboot
[01:28] <boeroe> hmm yes man still appreciate your help. i feel so dum and helpless....
[01:28] <draik> you're welcome
[01:29] <boeroe> oke will try that tomorrow is another day
[01:29] <boeroe> thx
[01:29] <draik> don't let anything intimidate you
[01:29] <boeroe> :-)
[01:29] <draik> np
[01:29] <boeroe> so waht where you trying?
[01:29] <boeroe> update the source list?
[01:29] <draik> yup
[01:30] <boeroe> now i  know why people run away from linux :-)
[01:30] <draik> cuz they can't let go of the windoze teet
[01:30] <boeroe> but it is a challenge
[01:30] <boeroe> later
[01:30] <draik> peace
[01:31] <draik> Goodbye everyone... I now attempt an install on another HDD
[01:32] <ubuntu_> ;)
[01:35] <Tim> wow ok
[01:35] <Tim> ??question how do i download a server list???
[01:36] <kraut> !apt
[01:36] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:36] <Tim> !apt
[01:36] <Tim> i see
[01:36] <Tim> thanks
[01:37] <Tim> ;)
[01:38] <Tim> bye all thanks for the info ;)
[01:58] <draik> Martijn81, what good is an attempt when I don't have the necessary cables
[01:58] <draik> I am short on Y-Connectors from my PSU
[02:00] <draik> WHOA!!!!
[02:00] <Martijn81> ops!
[02:00] <draik> brown.freenode really crapped out!!!!
[02:00] <Martijn81> !ops
[02:00] <bLaZeD> big split
[02:00] <draik> oh yea
[02:11] <exobuzz> are there netsplits going on ?
[02:11] <draik> I think so
[02:11] <draik> but I think its done
[02:11] <exobuzz> its bloody annoying..
[02:11] <draik> or it's getting to be a real crawl
[02:11] <draik> exobuzz, it's really annoying with all the joins
[02:11] <bonggnu> hi, i need a program to shrink a mpg file of 890 megas, to record in a vcd
[02:11] <draik> kinda throws off convos
[02:12] <draik> QDVDAUTHOR
[02:12] <draik> ^bonggnu
[02:12] <exobuzz> anyone here used koverartist ? just that its good, and i discovered it recently
[02:12] <exobuzz> and i printing a nice dvd cover today :)
[02:13] <bonggnu> ok,. i will try it, thanks a lot
[02:17] <bonggnu> draik: ** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x08552c28 **
[02:18] <oslo> bonsoir
[02:19] <oslo> sous kubuntu j'aimerais mettre l'ecran de login de ubuntu est-ce possible ?
[02:19] <brkamikaze> !fr
[02:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:19] <oslo> sorry
[02:19] <oslo> & thks
[02:20] <oslo> so under Kubuntu i'd like to switch my logon screen to the ubuntu one how can i do ?
[02:21] <pierreth> hello i cannot burn dvd
[02:21] <pierreth> i have the error Failed to open device
[02:21] <pierreth> what should I do?
[02:21] <CVirus> pierreth: try with sudo
[02:22] <pierreth> CVirus: all the times?
[02:22] <CVirus> pierreth: I suppose
[02:23] <Martijn81> oslo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:23] <brkamikaze> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork
[02:23] <pierreth> CVirus: thank you, I am trying
[02:23] <brkamikaze> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork gdm
[02:24] <Martijn81> no that's not right, damn what was that command...
 and i'll stay under KDE or ..?
[02:24] <brkamikaze> oslo: yes, you will continue under kde
[02:24] <brkamikaze> unless you install gnome-session
[02:25] <oslo> only the login screen after the usplash screen ?
[02:25] <oslo> k
[02:25] <brkamikaze> you will also need to configure the bootscripts to start GDM instead of KDM
[02:26] <pierreth> CVirus: i have the same erroor
[02:26] <oslo> i don't want 4 now KDE is great
[02:26] <CVirus> pierreth: no idea .. really
[02:26] <pierreth> CVirus: is it possible to burn cd or dvd on linux?
[02:27] <CVirus> yes sure
[02:27] <draik> pierreth K3B
[02:27] <brkamikaze> sudo bash -c 'rm /etc/rc3.d/S99kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc3.d/S99gdm; rm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01gdm'
[02:28] <red> when i get on the web at kde-look.org and get wallpapers, how exactly do i install them as well as other programs that are .tar
[02:28] <pierreth> draik: k3b is not better
[02:28] <brkamikaze> red: open then with Ark
[02:28] <red> ok
[02:28] <red> thanxs
[02:28] <brkamikaze> if they have a file named 'configure', then you need to compile
[02:28] <Jucato> but wallpapers, usually, don't need compiling
[02:28] <red> ok
[02:29] <red> ill try some stuff
[02:29] <drgonzo> hello all
[02:29] <red> is that the same with visual themes
[02:29] <drgonzo> is there anyway to check is the kmail spamasssasin flags are working
[02:29] <brkamikaze> Jucato: visual styles however do need compiling :(
[02:29] <Jucato> red, not all
[02:29] <Jucato> brkamikaze, yes... but he did mention "wallpapers"...
[02:29] <drgonzo> i.e which i check something as spam and it gets moved to trash, it's suppose to run the sa-learn command but can i check to see if it's working?
[02:29] <brkamikaze> red: sometimes the publisher of the theme publish a .deb version under another name
[02:30] <red> okay
[02:30] <brkamikaze> just download that deb and run "dpkg -i <file"
[02:30] <brkamikaze> dpkg -i <filename>
[02:30] <red> the ones that i download sar .tar.gz
[02:30] <Jucato> or, when you have download the .deb, right-click on it in Konqueror and choose Kubuntu Package Menu > Install
[02:30] <brkamikaze> red: if it is a wallpaper, don't worry
[02:31] <pierreth> K3b is just so slow
[02:31] <brkamikaze> but if it is a visual style, prefer a .deb version
[02:31] <red> ok
[02:31] <CVirus> pierreth: burning has nuthing to do with the software you're using
[02:31] <red> where would i extract to
[02:31] <red> what folder
[02:31] <red> or does it even mattter
[02:32] <brkamikaze> pierreth: every single burning program for linux uses cdrecord as a backend AFAIK
[02:32] <brkamikaze> red: it doesn't matter
[02:32] <Jucato> red, doesn't matter if it's just a wallpaper
[02:32] <pierreth> CVirus: yes it does, K3b is very just at adding a folder
[02:32] <red> its a theme
[02:32] <red> or should i even try themes
[02:32] <pierreth> Gravman is a lot faster for that
[02:32] <brkamikaze> red: there are some themes available from apt, try those too
[02:33] <red> ok
[02:33] <red> ill try those
[02:33] <otaku-san> Does anyone know of any good Archiving programs beside Ark?  I was thinking 7zip but I want to know if there are any other good ones out there
[02:33] <brkamikaze> otaku-san: file-roller
[02:33] <brkamikaze> but that's part of GNOME
[02:34] <Jucato> red, this post might help clarify some things a bit about themes in KDE: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8189.msg33038#msg33038
[02:35] <Jucato> otaku-san, besides, Ark and all the rest are merely front-ends to the command line utilities. they're abilities are largely dependent on those
[02:35] <Jucato> otaku-san, other archiving programs: file roller and xarchiver (xfce)
[02:35] <brkamikaze> otaku-san: the best archiving tool is 'tar'
[02:35] <brkamikaze> :)
[02:35] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhhh...yeah I was wondering...
[02:36] <otaku-san> brkamikaze: hahah ya it is most defiantly better than a .zip
[02:36] <otaku-san> but windoze has such bad support for it...
[02:36] <Jucato> but seems like RAR has better/smaller compression...
[02:37] <brkamikaze> remember to install p7zip
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> rar often can compress better.. but takes longer
[02:37] <brkamikaze> then Ark will be able to mess with .7z files
[02:38] <oslo> brkamikaze> it didn't work i tried a Ctrl-Alt-Del to see it didn't work
[02:38] <Bbetto> hi, whats mean this checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:38] <oslo> about change the kubuntu login to ubuntu one
[02:38] <brkamikaze> oslo: you need to change the init scripts
[02:38] <brkamikaze> sudo bash -c 'rm /etc/rc3.d/S99kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc3.d/S99gdm; rm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01kdm; ln -s ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc{0,6}.d/K01gdm'
[02:38] <mshade> !composite manager
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <brkamikaze> !gdm
[02:38] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[02:39] <brkamikaze> bah
[02:39] <brkamikaze> Jucato: do you know how to replace kdm with gdm?
[02:39] <brkamikaze> any user-friendly way?
[02:39] <Jucato> brkamikaze, sorry, a bit clueless there...
[02:39] <Bbetto> hi what means this please? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:39] <oslo> ^^
[02:40] <brkamikaze> Bbetto: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[02:40] <brkamikaze> this should install almost every header needed to compile a X program
[02:44] <pierreth> I was able to burn a folder
[02:45] <pierreth> I'm trying to erase now
[02:45] <brkamikaze> somebody on the -br support channel is having this problem with the nvidia driver:
[02:45] <brkamikaze> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA X driver and the
[02:45] <brkamikaze>  (EE) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA GLX module.  X driver version: 1.0-8774; GLX module
[02:45] <brkamikaze>  (EE) NVIDIA(0):     version: 1.0-8762.
[02:45] <brkamikaze> what should be installed to make those versions equal?
[02:47] <Martijn81> damn, md5sum is equal but half the cd is corrupt ;(
[02:48] <brkamikaze> Martijn81: lol
[02:49] <brkamikaze> so the md5 itself is corrupted :P
[02:50] <Martijn81> don't know, i'll burn again and verify the disk this time to be sure
[02:51] <D4rkly> has anyone got xgl working ?
[02:52] <pierreth> i'm trying to burn my home folder, why is it so slow?
[02:52] <brkamikaze> D4rkly: I won't even try
[02:52] <brkamikaze> I own one of those cursed SiS onboard cards :(
[02:53] <InuDuelist> Darn.
[02:53] <InuDuelist> I can't get Imageshack Quickshot working in Wine.
[02:54] <Jucato> pierreth, maybe you have lots of files? or slow burning speed?
[02:54] <pierreth> i think i had a problem because my burner was listed in double
[02:54] <pierreth> Jucato: i have lost of files, but it is not the burning that is taking so much time, it is the preparation
[02:55] <k31th> this server pissed me off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvswi-CAmeU
[02:55] <InuDuelist> Anyone know of a program that lets you take a screenshot and upload an image to the internet?
[02:56] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: I know a duo of programs that can
[02:56] <brkamikaze> ksnapshot and konqueror :)
[02:56] <Jucato> lol
[02:56] <InuDuelist> brkamikaze, seriously.
[02:57] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: I didn't even knew about the existance of such "Imageshack Quickshot"
[02:57] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[02:57] <brkamikaze> post your results on wine's appdb
[02:57] <brkamikaze> and make sure you're using wine 0.9.20
[02:57] <InuDuelist> appdb?
[02:57] <InuDuelist> How do I check?
[02:57] <brkamikaze> http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:57] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: wine --version
[02:58] <brkamikaze> the site http://www.winehq.org contains instructions to add a repository for {,K,X}ubuntu that contains always the latest wine
[02:58] <InuDuelist> Long. Error. Message.
[02:59] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: bah
[02:59] <brkamikaze> apt-cache show wine
[02:59] <InuDuelist> Wait.
[03:00] <InuDuelist> I don't have 0.9.20
[03:00] <InuDuelist> I have 0.9.9.
[03:00] <pierreth> i think i cannot burn my home folder, i will make a copy first
[03:00] <robert_> hm
[03:01] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: that's because you're using official repositories
[03:01] <InuDuelist> I am.
[03:01] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[03:02] <InuDuelist> Do I add that to my repository list?
[03:02] <robert_> I can't seem to (re)start esd
[03:02] <robert_> I get errors when trying to use my onboard soundcard
[03:02] <brkamikaze> InuDuelist: yes
[03:02] <robert_> er, how *do* I restart esd under (k)ubuntu?
[03:03] <brkamikaze> robert_: why are you using esd under kubuntu?
[03:03] <robert_> because I'm used to it
[03:03] <robert_> actuall
[03:03] <robert_> y
[03:03] <brkamikaze> it will be easier to get support for esd on #ubuntu, since it's the default in there
[03:03] <robert_> ah
[03:03] <robert_> yeah
[03:04] <robert_> I started from normal Ubuntu, since I rely on Evolution
[03:04] <pierreth> i think the burning software is having a hard time with FIFO files
[03:05] <brkamikaze> pierreth: is DMA enabled?
[03:05] <Martijn81> (@*#&%^!#$*%^ i forgot to set the verify option ;(   Can i md5sum manually on a CD?
[03:05] <D4rkly> where is sources.list ?
[03:05] <Hawkwind> D4rkly: /etc/apt
[03:05] <D4rkly> for adept
[03:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> D4rkly: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <brkamikaze> Martijn81: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[03:05] <pierreth> brkamikaze: i don't know, I don't know what's the meaning, how can i check
[03:05] <Martijn81> :)
[03:06] <D4rkly> cool :)
[03:06] <brkamikaze> pierreth: dmesg | grep DMA
[03:06] <brkamikaze> check if your cd-rom device is listed
[03:06] <pierreth> [    0.000000]    DMA zone: 196608 pages, LIFO batch:31
[03:06] <pierreth> [    0.000000]    DMA32 zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0
[03:06] <pierreth> [   52.091090]  hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 5
[03:06] <pierreth> [   52.092103]  hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 2
[03:06] <pierreth> [   55.615328]  hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100)
[03:06] <pierreth> [   55.639684]  hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[03:07] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[03:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:07] <Hawkwind> pierreth: Please use pastebin and not flood the channel
[03:07] <brkamikaze> pierreth: it's activated
[03:07] <pierreth> how much text can i paste without the pastbin?
[03:07] <brkamikaze> and you just needed to check, not paste it in here :)
[03:08] <brkamikaze> pierreth: 3 lines tops I think should be enough
[03:08] <pierreth> ok, sorry :-)
[03:09] <brkamikaze> i'll go
[03:09] <brkamikaze> sleep
[03:09] <brkamikaze> =p
[03:11] <Jucato> weee! Hawkwind's still alive! ;D
[03:13] <Martijn81> bad bad, md5sum from server to download to cd is the same, though many packages are corrupted
[03:14] <D4rkly> im trying to install Xgl compiz-kde: Depends: compiz (= 0.0.2-4ubuntu2) but <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:15] <draik> !pastebin > draik
[03:15] <Bbetto> Hi
[03:15] <D4rkly> lol its 2 lines
[03:15] <Bbetto> what is wrong whit this
[03:15] <Bbetto> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:16] <Bbetto> i install kdevelop3 but the mistake is the same
[03:16] <Bbetto> what hapend?
[03:24] <Martijn81> hmm, looks like it was my own fault (duh)
[03:29] <robert_> blah
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <Martijn81> Bbetto: you probably need xlibs-dev
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <Jucato> !ops
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatric, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, or gnomefreak
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <Martijn81> !ops
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <pyehhclj> GNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDEGNOME > KDE
[03:30] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:30] <acwupnwd> GNOME > KDE
[03:31] <fjtowoqp> GNOME > KDE
[03:31] <cevnvopf> GNOME > KDE
[03:31] <xmhrpows> GNOME > KDE
[03:31] <usjmvshk> GNOME > KDE
[03:31] <__mikem> oh no
[03:31] <__mikem> Wow this is getting annoying
[03:31] <Jucato> whoa...
[03:31] <Martijn81> damn, another freak
[03:31] <draik> not again
[03:32] <Jucato> sheesh...
[03:32] <Martijn81> and no ubotu to warn another, and seveas is sleeping...
[03:32] <Jucato> Martijn81: ubotu is there...
[03:32] <nalioth> hi beu
[03:32] <Jucato> people like that $$#!@%$* give GNOME a bad name...
[03:32] <nalioth> beu: you're late to the party  :P
[03:32] <beu> nalioth: hi :p
[03:32] <draik> yup
[03:33] <draik> Hey nalioth
[03:33] <beu> nalioth: heh, same as usual ;)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> op
[03:33] <__mikem> Jucato those aren't people its a bot
[03:33] <Hobbsee> what's the problem?
[03:33] <Jucato> __mikem: well, the person/people he made that bot, then
[03:33] <draik> Hobbsee, go at 'em
[03:33] <draik> I hope it's not that pisshead from earlier
[03:34] <__mikem> Hobbsee, they were klined before you showed up
[03:34] <Jucato> we received a flood of "GNOME > KDE"....
[03:34] <Hobbsee> ah right
[03:35] <Jucato> hm.... but now the channel is +r.....
[03:35] <Hobbsee> it is?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> [11:35]  *** Channel modes: no messages from outside, no colours allowed, R, f
[03:35] <Hobbsee> register to talk, i suspect
[03:35] <Phoul> anyone here use a rca lyra mp3 player?
[03:35] <Jucato> yeah
[03:36] <Jucato> nalioth set it to +R
[03:36] <Hobbsee> cool
[03:36] <Hobbsee> he just told me in ops
[03:36] <Jucato> ehehe
[03:36] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i got the problems fixed :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> i think
[03:37] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:38] <Jucato> Hobbsee: still +4
[03:38] <Jucato> s/4/R
[03:38] <Hobbsee> Jucato: hmm?
[03:39] <Jucato> still +R, and you can't change your nick from an unregistered nick to a registered one unless you leave #kubuntu
[03:39] <Jucato> oh there.... hehehe! thanks nalioth!
[03:41] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahhh...
[03:50] <Kr4t05> Does anyone here used kbfx?
[03:50] <Agios> not me
[03:50] <Kr4t05> Grumble.
[03:52] <pierreth> ok, the burning is now working
[03:52] <Kr4t05> Anyone? Please?
[03:53] <InuDuelist> I do.
[03:53] <InuDuelist> What ya need?
[03:53] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: How do I install a menu theme?
[03:53] <Kr4t05> I click the menu button, and nothing happens.
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[03:53] <InuDuelist> Are you in kbfx config?
[03:54] <Kr4t05> ?
[03:54] <InuDuelist> You installed Kbfx, right?
[03:54] <Kr4t05> From repositories, yes
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[03:54] <InuDuelist> Open up kbfxconfig
[03:54] <Frederick> folks did anyone here installed the google earth package?
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Nope, sorry.
[03:55] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: kbfxconfig from terminal?
[03:55] <InuDuelist> It should be in your menu.
[03:55] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:55] <Kr4t05> Let me restart KDE.
[03:55] <InuDuelist> Try going to "run" and typing in "kbfxconfigapp"
[03:56] <Kr4t05> Could not run.
[03:56] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[03:56] <Kr4t05> I type
[03:56] <InuDuelist> What exactly did you type in to install?
[03:57] <Kr4t05> sudo apt-get install kbfx
[03:57] <InuDuelist> Hm...
[03:57] <InuDuelist> So, you installed it, but can't get the Config menu open?
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Nope.
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Hm.
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Let's see.
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Try going to run, and typing in "kcontrol".
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Let me try something...
[03:58] <InuDuelist> Ok.
[03:59] <blindangel> what if Adept, Konqueror, Katapult and most of the thing in the KDesktop disapeared (kinda newb here)
[03:59] <__mikem> Kr4t05 the package for kbfx in dapper is broken
[03:59] <Kr4t05> __mikem: good to know.
[03:59] <__mikem> you need to go to their website and download a package from tehre
[03:59] <Kr4t05> __mikem: Build from source?
[04:00] <Kr4t05> NVM
[04:01] <Jucato> Kr4t05: you might want to try enabling the dapper-backports repository, as there is an updated kbfx (and KTorrent, whoopee!) there
[04:01] <blindangel> I tried to install QTHEader and some related package, adept crashed and when i restarted i had no more adept, konqueror and all the stuff
[04:01] <Kr4t05> Jucato: Saweet.
[04:03] <Kr4t05> Jucato: I suppose now, I can remove Azureus. XP
[04:03] <Jucato> hahah
[04:03] <Kr4t05> I had to use if for this one tracker that didn't like Ktorrent.
[04:04] <Jucato> only if you're satisfied with KTorrent 2.0.1
[04:04] <pierreth> i made a backup of my user account
[04:04] <Kr4t05> Jucato: I don't mind it, but the tracker I used to use really hated it.
[04:04] <Kr4t05> But, I no longer use that tracker.
[04:04] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:04] <pierreth> how can i use this backup with my next linux install?
[04:04] <Martijn81> AFAIK KTorrent 2.1 will come soon too, seeing they said it will be a minor release
[04:04] <pierreth> i want to restore all my stuff
[04:05] <pierreth> can i just copy back the folder that i saved?
[04:06] <D4rkly> what is the equivalent to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[04:07] <D4rkly> is there a kdm ?
[04:07] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart ??
[04:07] <pierreth> does someone wants a Mac now?
[04:07] <Jucato> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:07] <Martijn81> pierreth: what's the point of doing that? isn't it wiser to backup the config file you actually need?
[04:07] <pierreth> Martijn81: i don't know what I need
[04:08] <pierreth> this is the way I do on mac
[04:08] <Hobbsee> Jucato: has kopete hit dapper-backports yet?
[04:08] <pierreth> i think it is simple
[04:08] <Jucato> Hobbsee: hmm... I'll check. I seem to be using imbrandon's build
[04:08] <pierreth> how should i do?
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahh okay.   yep
[04:09] <Agios> pierreth: how did you create the backup?
[04:09] <Martijn81> pierreth: i works mostly, but a clean start is better in my view
[04:09] <Hobbsee> i think they did a whole lot of backports then said "lets take a break for a bit"
[04:09] <Kr4t05> Ok, it all works, now.
[04:09] <pierreth> Agios: i made a dvd of a copy of my home folder
[04:09] <Hobbsee> oh...most/all of canonical is on holidays, i think
[04:10] <Agios> pierreth: after you reinstall just copy it back over then
[04:10] <pierreth> Agios: it is going to work?
[04:10] <Jucato> Hobbsee: nope. no kopete yet. the Kopete and Konversation that I'm using is from imbrandon
[04:11] <Agios> pierreth: I see no reason why it would not work
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: indeed.  i wouldnt mind backporting konvi either, actually
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: but kopete first :)
[04:11] <Jucato> hehehe!
[04:11] <Hobbsee> Jucato: seeing as i'm the active maintainer of that :)
[04:11] <pierreth> i want to sell my mac to buy a pc and have everything back as it was
[04:11] <Jucato> lol
[04:11] <Jucato> oh man! I forgot about madison!
[04:12] <Agios> pierreth: I do full backups of my systems every night
[04:12] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I went to archive.ubuntu.com to manually check if kopete is there
[04:12] <Hobbsee> Jucato: interesting.  i would have used apt-cache policy
[04:12] <Jucato> I forgot to simply do apt-cache madison kopete....
[04:12] <Jucato> ehehe
[04:12] <Agios> pierreth: I can completely wipe the disk and be back up and running in 30 minutes
[04:12] <pierreth> Agios: have you tried a restore?
[04:12] <Jucato> imbrandon was the one who taught me that...
[04:12] <Agios> pierreth: many times
[04:12] <pierreth> Agios: cool!
[04:12] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i've seen it used, i've not used it
[04:13] <Kr4t05> How do I change the background for Konqueror?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ahhh...neat
[04:13] <jamadagni> hello. does anyone know where i can get the edgy purple theme for kubuntu
[04:13] <Jucato> Kr4t05: View > Configure Background
[04:13] <Agios> pierreth: http://timia.net/agios/index.php?page=BackUps
[04:13] <jamadagni> i mean, colour scheme
[04:13] <Jucato> works only as a file manager, though
[04:14] <Kr4t05> Jucato: Meh...  :P
[04:15] <Jucato> jamadagni: hmm... in edgy?  sorry no idea... better ask in #ubuntu+1 I think
[04:15] <Agios> now there is a waste of a good computer
[04:15] <jamadagni> jucato - is there no kubuntu=1
[04:15] <jamadagni> i mean kubuntu+1/
[04:15] <Jucato> jamadagni: I don't think so
[04:15] <Kr4t05> Agios: Think Kubuntu stability with Vista's look.
[04:16] <Agios> I stand by my statement LOL
[04:16] <Kr4t05> Agios: You're just a hater. :[
[04:16] <Jucato> what's with Vista's look? lol
[04:16] <Kr4t05> Jucato: he's just a flamer.
[04:16] <Jucato> eheheh
[04:16] <Agios> hehe
[04:17] <Jucato> (actually I don't mind it... but I don't prefer it either...)
[04:17] <pierreth> Agios: thank you
[04:18] <Agios> pierreth: np
[04:18] <Guest79988> i have a problem
[04:19] <Guest79988> i was doing an update in the adept manager, and now everytime i boot up i get a screen after the login that just features a konsole in the uper left corner, and thats it
[04:19] <Guest79988> and the login is different
[04:19] <Daniel21> http://www.DJDada.dl.am - HipHop & RnB MusicVidz and MusicTracks to Download!!!
[04:20] <draik> Red, sounds like you got rid of your desktop
[04:20] <Red> how do i fix that
[04:20] <Red> reinstall the whole thing
[04:21] <Red> i was wanting to install different thems but the adept just stopped responding
[04:21] <Red> so u had to restart and now i get nothing
[04:21] <Red> i*
[04:21] <Red> i was installing the kdmtheme
[04:21] <draik> I think you got ahold of something that wasn't made for your version of Kubuntu
[04:22] <Red> and to fix that i have to reinstall the whole thing
[04:22] <Jucato> Red: what do you mean by "now I get nothing"??
[04:23] <Red> i type in my password and it goes to a light blue background with an active konsole in the upper left hand corner
[04:23] <Red> and thats it
[04:23] <Red> but the login screen looks different as well
[04:23] <Jucato> hmmm
[04:24] <Red> is there some sort of recovery or restore
[04:24] <enzo> I know I had that same issue before, but I can't recall the fix
[04:24] <enzo> other than undoing what you did last
[04:25] <Red> how would i go about undoing what i did
[04:25] <enzo> well, what did you do last?
[04:25] <Jucato> Red: do you remember if Adept finished what it was doing?
[04:25] <sophie_>  /join #compiz
[04:25] <Red> nope, it didnt finish
[04:25] <enzo> That pertains to the issue
[04:25] <Red> it hung
[04:25] <Red> at 58%
[04:25] <enzo> what were you getting?
[04:25] <enzo> I think you should try again
[04:25] <Jucato> Red: if you can get to a command line, try typing this "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:25] <Red> kdmtheme
[04:25] <enzo> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:26] <Red> the konsole that pops up is active and i can type in it
[04:26] <enzo> go for it
[04:26] <enzo> do as Jucato said
[04:26] <Jucato> enzo: :-p
[04:26] <enzo> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:26] <Red> ok will do
[04:27] <enzo> What?
[04:27] <enzo> I can admit when I'm wrong...
[04:27] <Red> i have to switch machines real quick
[04:27] <Jucato> of course, I wasn't saying anything ^_^
[04:27] <enzo> Jucato's method was right, I was wrong
[04:27] <Jucato> enzo: what happened to draik?
[04:27] <D4rkly> !transparent
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transparent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <enzo> desktop froze
[04:27] <Jucato> oh...
[04:27] <D4rkly> !transparency
[04:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:28] <Red> sudo dpkg --configure -a that is what i need
[04:28] <D4rkly> !composite
[04:28] <enzo> yup
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Martijn81> !fishing
[04:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[04:28] <draik> BACK
[04:28] <Knightlust> hehehe, ubotu got angry
[04:28] <Jucato> D4rkly: you know you can make ubotu send you the results of your queries privately by doing !<query> > D4rkly
[04:29] <D4rkly> oh cool
[04:29] <Jucato> D4rkly: something like !compiz > D4rkly
[04:29] <draik> ok
[04:30] <D4rkly> any one know how i can enable true transparency rather than pseudo ? i saw a tutorial somewher
[04:30] <draik> Is there a new version of flash available?
[04:30] <_bbeck> I was wondering if anyone knew where I could download the init replacement, I know that it isn't done yet, but I'd like to have a peek at what it looks like so far.
[04:31] <Jucato> draik: what new version?
[04:31] <draik> dunno
[04:31] <Jucato> _bbeck: you talking about upstart?
[04:31] <draik> was viewing a video on MySpace and it told me to update my flash
[04:31] <Jucato> draik: oh... Flash 9 (and 8 I think) ain't available natively...
[04:32] <draik> I hope it's still not talking about Flash 9
[04:32] <draik> right
[04:32] <Jucato> you can try installing firefox in Wine then Flash 9
[04:32] <draik> I press ignore and all I get is audio
[04:32] <_bbeck> Jucato: I'm not certain of the name, but the one outlined here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit
[04:32] <draik> nah
[04:32] <draik> it's not important
[04:33] <Jucato> _bbeck: yes, it's upstart. better ask the people in #ubuntu+1 since it's an Edgy thing
[04:33] <_bbeck> Jucato: thanks.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> _bbeck: it's in universe, for edgy, so far
[04:35] <Jucato> so now Ubuntu has upstart for it's own init system, and USplash for its own bootsplash... well at least they do admit it's an NIH thing...
[04:41] <otaku-san> Hey this is a quick gimp question.  okay when I look at tuts on stuff like Canvas resizing (it's different then I'm used to) they're Canvas Resizing options have more stuff that I need but my Gimp doesn't have...is it because I need some plugin?
[04:42] <D4rkly> ive installed Xgl but all my fonts are tiny how do i fix this ?
[04:45] <Hobbsee> otaku-san: probably ask that in #ubuntu
[04:45] <Hobbsee> Jucato: NIH?
[04:45] <Jucato> Not Invented Here [syndrome]
[04:45] <Jucato> (for which KDE is always accused of...)
[04:47] <otaku-san> Hobbsee: good idea
[04:47] <Jucato> otaku-san: or in #gimp (if there is one...)
[04:47] <Agios> Jucato: the problem is,splash screens are no big deal, but if they hose up init processing in a big way it's not going to go over well.  They just got through apologizing for the xorg foul up.
[04:47] <otaku-san> Jucato: there is....probably better for me to go there
[04:47] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ah right.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> Agios: yes, but this is edgy, and it's supposed ot break.
[04:47] <Agios> lol
[04:48] <Jucato> lol
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Agios: that dapper screw up was *incredibly* bad though
[04:48] <Hobbsee> that's why we keep telling peple "dont use edgy unless you're a developer!  you dont want it!"
[04:48] <Jucato> and I keep telling "Edgy will be released in October, but it will probably be less stable than Dapper"
[04:52] <Jucato> hi imbrandon! glad to see (not your "clone")
[04:54] <imbrandon> heya Jucato
[05:03] <Phrozen_One> hey all, any cons to installing the 64-bit version of kubuntu? (drivers, apps, etc. incompabilities?)
[05:11] <Kr4t05> Gar...
[05:12] <Kr4t05> I try to apply a Theme to my KBFX, and it refuses to stick.
[05:13] <niceman2> hi kubuntu is a shitty os
[05:14] <Festyur> where can i find a list of linux compatible 802.11 NICs?
[05:14] <Hawkwind> niceman2: Watch the language please and don't troll
[05:15] <Ballistik> niceman2: Why do you think that?
[05:18] <KaiHanari> Hawkwind, Ballistik ,  they are just a troll, they are only on here and #bash, they got pwnd over there
[05:18] <KaiHanari> * niceman2<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #bash
[05:18] <KaiHanari> niceman2 hi bash is a shit shell
[05:18] <KaiHanari> TheBonsai then don't use it. easy enough?
[05:18] <KaiHanari> havent said anything anywhere since.
[05:20] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: You there?
[05:33] <InuDuelist> Kr4t05: Yeah, I'm here.
[05:33] <InuDuelist> What's up?
[05:33] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: I can't seem to get my KBFX themes to stick.
[05:34] <InuDuelist> Oh?
[05:34] <InuDuelist> What's the problem?
[05:34] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: I open the KBFX config and go to the Themes tab.
[05:34] <InuDuelist> Have you reached the Config menu?
[05:34] <InuDuelist> Oh.
[05:34] <InuDuelist> OK.
[05:35] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: I point it to the folder containing my themes (~/.kbfx/Themes) and select the theme I want to use. I press Apply.
[05:35] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: Nothing changes.
[05:35] <InuDuelist> ...
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Hmm...
[05:35] <InuDuelist> Let's see.
[05:36] <Kr4t05> I press Reload, still nothing.
[05:36] <InuDuelist> Try pressing save.
[05:36] <InuDuelist> :P
[05:36] <Kr4t05> Nada
[05:36] <InuDuelist> Let's make sure that you at least have the mode set.
[05:36] <InuDuelist> Go to "Menu Style".
[05:36] <Kr4t05> Yeah
[05:37] <Kr4t05> KBFX SPINX
[05:37] <InuDuelist> Hmm.
[05:37] <InuDuelist> Gimme a minute.
[05:37] <InuDuelist> Just to make sure, you've selected to correct theme, right?
[05:38] <Kr4t05> Yes
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Hm...
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Take a screenshot.
[05:39] <Kr4t05> I somehow stumbled onto it.
[05:39] <InuDuelist> I may be missing something.
[05:39] <InuDuelist> Fixed?
[05:40] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: Install New Theme "Apply" Installed Theme "Apply', Save and Reload.
[05:40] <Kr4t05> Gar.
[05:41] <Kr4t05> Well, that's one thing taken care of.
[05:41] <Kr4t05> All I need is a wallpaper and my transformation will be complete! :)
[05:41] <D4rkly>      /j #compiz
[05:42] <D4rkly> anyone know how i run gconftool-2 to configure compiz ?
[05:43] <InuDuelist> ...
[05:43] <InuDuelist> You didn't apply?
[05:43] <InuDuelist> >_<
[05:44] <Kr4t05> InuDuelist: You have to press two different ones, I think...
[05:44] <Wabs> Hey guys, what's the difference between the Kubuntu DVD .iso and the Live CD .iso, because I have both and i'm thinking of changing from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Wabs: AFAIK the Dapper Live CD is the install CD.
[05:45] <Wabs> So what's the DVD iso for?
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Oh, DVD...
[05:46] <Kr4t05> No clue, I haven't used the DVD version.
[05:46] <Kr4t05> If they were offered by shipit, I would get on of Edgy when realeased. :)
[05:47] <D4rkly> i got XGL and compiz running its wicked :) just follow this(read carefully and follow exactly. compiz-kde is not needed compiz-gnome works just fine) after installing and enabling nvidia gl drivers and emabling composite and hardware accel. in xorgconf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[05:47] <Wabs> when does Edgey Eft come out btw?
[05:47] <Wabs> it's a 6 month cycle now right
[05:47] <Jucato> DVD has more apps available for installation without the internet
[05:47] <Jucato> Edgy comes out in October
[05:47] <Wabs> thought so
[05:48] <Wabs> Is it easy to upgrade from Dapper Drake to Edgy Eft?
[05:48] <Kr4t05> Waiting is so hard. ><
[05:48] <DShepherd> Wabs: it depends on what you define as easy
[05:48] <Jucato> lol
[05:49] <Wabs> Well, is it just like, grab the newest version's iso via bittorrent, burn it to a cd or dvd, pop it in and upgrade, or does it appear in a list of updates, or would i go through terminal?
[05:50] <foxjwill> Hi. I have dapper with gnome and am trying to install kubuntu via apt-get kubuntu-desktop. but i keep getting this error: "Depends: kdegraphics-kfile-plugins but it is not going to be installed"
[05:50] <Hobbsee> Wabs: not at the moment
[05:50] <DShepherd> Wabs: well not that I am recommending you to upgrade to edgy just yet.. but changing dapper to edgy in your sources.list should be find
[05:51] <Hobbsee> foxjwill: that would be dapper?
[05:51] <foxjwill> yes
[05:51] <Hobbsee> foxjwill: install kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[05:51] <foxjwill> ok
[05:51] <Hobbsee> or at least i looked at it, and figured it out
[05:51] <DShepherd> Hobbsee: boo boo?
[05:51] <CapNemo> anybody knows a good lib to use socket on c/c++ ?
[05:51] <Hobbsee> DShepherd: not mine.  i'm not sure what's broken there
[05:51] <foxjwill> "kdegraphics-kfile-plugins:
[05:51] <foxjwill>  Depends: libpoppler1-qt but it is not going to be installed"
[05:52] <Hobbsee> install libpoppler1-qt as well then
[05:52] <foxjwill> libpoppler1-qt:
[05:52] <foxjwill>   Depends: libpoppler1 (=0.5.1-0ubuntu7) but 0.5.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:52] <Hobbsee> nice.
[05:52] <DShepherd> heheh
[05:52] <DShepherd> seems pretty deep
[05:52] <Wabs> DShepherd
[05:52] <Hobbsee> hey what...
[05:53] <DShepherd> Wabs: yes?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, that's the generally screwed up thing.
[05:53] <Wabs> I'm not gonna play with the experimental version, but I mean when it comes out in a stable, i'll grab it 8)
[05:53] <Hobbsee> foxjwill: you'd be using extra repos there?
[05:53] <DShepherd> Wabs: kool.. dont be like me ;-)
[05:53] <foxjwill> I was, but I removed them.
[05:54] <Wabs> I'm a Linux newbie, so it's not my bag to be messing with experimentals yet
[05:54] <Wabs> Hell, I know Windows really well but I still don't play with the Vista betas
[05:55] <DShepherd> Wabs: k
[05:55] <DShepherd> Wabs: your wise
[05:56] <Wabs> messed something up playing with the experimental, DShepherd?
[05:57] <DShepherd> me.. I always mess stuff up :-D
[05:57] <Wabs> yeah, that's why i don't wanna mess with it
[05:58] <Wabs> but I think i'm gonna wait until Egdy Eft comes out to upgrade to Kubuntu, cuz nobody uses the Linux Laptop that much because the keyboard is missing keys, so i need to put in a new keyboard and PCMIA Wireless-B/G card
[06:08] <alex_> hey everyone
[06:08] <otaku-san> hey how would I change kubuntu to stop going to Konqueror for browsers and change it to Firefox?
[06:09] <otaku-san> alex_: hello
[06:09] <alex_> why not just use the firefox shortcut directly?
[06:09] <alex_> or you mean how to set it up as a default browser?
[06:09] <intelikey> otaku-san my question is why would you ?
[06:10] <alex_> hehe
[06:10] <alex_> I have the same question, why would you... really?
[06:11] <otaku-san> intelikey: because I prefer Firefox over Konq....among other reasons...I don't hate Konq...just don't want to use it for webbrowsing
[06:11] <intelikey> granted i'm no ff fan.  but konq is 'heep mo betta-n-good'
[06:12] <DFM> isn't konq... based of ff?
[06:12] <otaku-san> but for me my connection goes way slower than with Firefox....Anyways I have everything in Firefox...
[06:12] <otaku-san> yes Konq is based off of FF
[06:13] <intelikey> otaku-san but to answer your Q  prefered application  iirc        (cli guy here)
[06:14] <intelikey> no based on mozilla    but so is everything but IE
[06:14] <otaku-san> intelikey: what do you mean?
[06:14] <intelikey> and i'm not sure IE is moz tech,
[06:14] <jamadagni> hello
[06:14] <otaku-san> not about the based thing...but the other thing
[06:15] <jamadagni> can anyone tell me what the contents of /var/cache/apt/archive/partial are?
[06:15] <jamadagni> i know that /var/cache/apt/archives contains dloaded installation fiels
[06:15] <intelikey> otaku-san set the prefered application   web browser to  ff
[06:15] <jamadagni> but the partial directory does not seem to contain partially downloaded files
[06:15] <jamadagni> but they are also fully donwloaded
[06:15] <otaku-san> IE is taken off of some tiny little no name browser that was supremely buggy...Microsuck gobbled it up and spit out IE...sad freaks
[06:15] <intelikey> kcontrol
[06:16] <otaku-san> thanks
[06:16] <intelikey> jamadagni partial downloaded packages from the apt repos
[06:16] <jamadagni> well they don't seem to be partially dlaoded
[06:17] <jamadagni> but they are full files
[06:17] <jamadagni> you may also notice that on a clean install system too, this folder contains some packages
[06:18] <intelikey> jamadagni do sudo apt-get linux-source   and hit [ctrl] +C when it starts downloading and it will leave the partial in that dir.   if you finish the dl it moves it to ../
[06:19] <intelikey> jamadagni you can safely sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*
[06:20] <intelikey> and  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*    for that matter.
[06:20] <gogeta> or
[06:20] <gogeta> apt-get clean
[06:20] <gogeta> lol
[06:20] <gogeta> that deletes alldownloadedfiles
[06:21] <intelikey> no   sudo apt-get clean
[06:21] <alex_> does anyone know how to get the ATI drivers through the repos (I believe that's the term)
[06:21] <gogeta> yes but there broken
[06:21] <alex_> I heard that if you manually install the drivers by downloading them from the website, then a kernel update will kill the X server
[06:21] <gogeta> better to instakll the newer one from ati
[06:21] <alex_> ok
[06:22] <intelikey> if you don't do it as root it rm's nothing
[06:22] <gogeta> wellit doesent kill x
[06:22] <intelikey> !ati
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <gogeta> but you will lose your driver
[06:22] <gogeta> and will ahve to reinstall it for the newer kernel
[06:22] <alex_> yes I know
[06:23] <alex_> I heard there is a simply script to do it?
[06:23] <alex_> that comes with the driver package
[06:23] <gogeta> well you can genrate a binary deb
[06:24] <gogeta> and it runs all the scripts nedded
[06:24] <wweasel> Hi, I use Kopete under Gnome (sorry guys :P), and I am having an issue. I think it probably has to do with KDE settings, so I am asking here. When I receive a new message the taskbar flashes, even if I am in the chat windows already.
[06:24] <gogeta> easy
[06:24] <gogeta> your running it under gnome
[06:24] <gogeta> lol
[06:25] <intelikey> sounds like a gnome thing to me.
[06:26] <intelikey> a 'nome thang
[06:26] <wweasel> intelikey: I used to KMess and I didn't have this issue.
[06:26] <wweasel> (The KDE chat clients have the gnome ones beat hands down.
[06:26] <gogeta> nope
[06:26] <gogeta> gaim ownz all of them
[06:27] <wweasel> gogeta: I disagree, I hate gaim. But, we all have our preferences. That's why we have KDE, Gnome, Kopete and Gaim...
[06:27] <intelikey> gaim smells of urine
[06:27] <intelikey> i said it stinks.
[06:28] <wweasel> no, gaim thinks that the users want to hear a symphony of alert sound effects.
[06:28] <intelikey> can you hear me now ?
[06:28] <gogeta> lol
[06:28] <gogeta> turn them off
[06:28] <intelikey> :)
[06:29] <intelikey> i looked at gaim one time.   it's awful !
[06:29] <wweasel> gogeta: It also likes to tell you every time your contact minimizes the window.
[06:29] <intelikey> i think i'm being way too graphic........
[06:30] <Modern_Myth> evenin' ... does the latest kubuntu use arts by default?
[06:30] <wweasel> intelikey: But do you have any idea how I could fix this flashy taskbar thing?
[06:30] <intelikey> wweasel actually no.   sorry to be so useless....
[06:31] <InuDuelist> Mmm, bedtime.
[06:31] <intelikey> wweasel i rarely startx and never gnome so ...
[06:32] <gogeta> lol
[06:32] <intelikey> in fact this box has not had an X server started sense i booted it up.
[06:32] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~]  uptime
[06:32] <intelikey> Uptime: 27 days 23 hours 32 mins 04 sec
[06:33] <gogeta> yes yes mr lag
[06:33] <intelikey> hmmm been longer than i thought....
[06:34] <gogeta> ill send you a ping lol
[06:34] <gogeta> youwilllag for 10minuts
[06:34] <gogeta> lol
[06:34] <intelikey> hehhe   this doesn't really look safe.
[06:34] <intelikey> tty21 [root@~]  cat /etc/sudoers
[06:34] <intelikey> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD
[06:35] <intelikey> bet i dont
[06:35] <intelikey> but you may  :)
[06:35] <gogeta> i rember you laging relly bad forlike 2 dayslol
[06:36] <intelikey> yeah data transfer on modem is      well as bad as gaim.
[06:36] <gogeta> yourun without x lol
[06:36] <intelikey> :)
[06:36] <gogeta> doesent textmode get wellannoying
[06:37] <intelikey> !cli
[06:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:37] <gogeta> lol
[06:37] <gogeta> iknoe how to use text only linux
[06:38] <intelikey> i guess you never used a graphic browser in console frame buffer mode     or never watched a vidio on console before.
[06:38] <gogeta> mypc at work suck and are text linux
[06:39] <gogeta> naa i have used xninit befor
[06:39] <gogeta> for gaming
[06:39] <gogeta> so it has no overhead
[06:40] <intelikey> what do you do in X that i can't (and might want too) in a console ?      key word may be "want"
[06:40] <gogeta> but for genrel use i use kde
[06:40] <gogeta> weell some things dont support fb mode
[06:41] <alex_> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <gogeta> also fb is slower then x
[06:41] <gogeta> sence you cant use dri or any other typeof acell
[06:42] <intelikey> faster.   direct kernel fb    not some eumlated stuff
[06:42] <gogeta> oh
[06:42] <gogeta> back in my days dri fb was still very early
[06:43] <gogeta> they finnly got that working hua
[06:43] <intelikey> oh well   dri   i wasn't including.  you may be right there....
[06:43] <gogeta> still softwhere renderd then
[06:44] <intelikey> not being a gammer and never using dri either way   i couldn't say.
[06:44] <gogeta> sri is used for more then gaming
[06:44] <gogeta> it acellsxaswell
[06:44] <intelikey> but with no dri  kernel fb is faster than X
[06:44] <gogeta> yes
[06:44] <gogeta> it wouldbe
[06:45] <gogeta> x withoutdri is slow
[06:45] <gogeta> very very slow
[06:45] <intelikey> yep
[06:45] <wweasel> I'm using Kopete under Gnome and I'm having a bit of an issue. When I receive a new message the taskbar starts flashing, even if I am already in the chat window.
[06:45] <gogeta> iloadeda few 496pcswith slack and x sucks on them
[06:46] <gogeta> does run thow
[06:46] <wweasel> Argh, sorry guys. I meant to put that in another channel
[06:46] <draik> How do I send a file through my network?
[06:46] <draik> I want to force a file through
[06:46] <wweasel> draik: Windows network? Samba
[06:46] <draik> No windows... it's all Kubuntu
[06:46] <intelikey> what couple houndred fps ?
[06:46] <draik> both of them
[06:46] <narg> start a ftp/ssh server on one of them?
[06:47] <narg> so you can use scp or ftp to move the file
[06:47] <draik> I can't just send the file straight through with a command?
[06:47] <gogeta> didnt check there loaded very lightly
[06:47] <gogeta> windowmaker gui
[06:47] <intelikey> sshd
[06:47] <intelikey> rsync
[06:47] <narg> draik: you need to somehow log into the box your trying to send to
[06:48] <draik> sshd?
[06:48] <narg> that will work yea.
[06:48] <draik> rsync?
[06:48] <draik> sudo apt-get install sshd     ?
[06:48] <narg> If you just want simple transfer, do apt-get install sshd
[06:48] <intelikey> draik you can reinvent the wheel if you want to,  but sshd is simple enough i can use it.     and i'm network illiterate.
[06:49] <narg> start it on one of the boxes, and then use fish:// in konqueror on the other
[06:49] <draik> How do I get sshd?
[06:49] <intelikey> yes
[06:49] <narg> apt-get install sshd
[06:49] <draik> I tried that
[06:49] <deb> draik: apt-get install openssh-server .
[06:49] <draik> E: Couldn't find package sshd
[06:49] <intelikey> draik you said it.....   sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:49] <narg> deb: ah, your right
[06:50] <draik> deb: It's downloading and all
[06:50] <deb> draik: sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[06:50] <draik> Is there a tut on this?
[06:50] <narg> tut?
[06:50] <draik> tutorial
[06:50] <intelikey> oh they removed the meta package....   openssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement
[06:51] <narg> hrm, somewhere probably. Perhaps google it?
[06:51] <deb> draik: http://www.openssh.com/
[06:51] <intelikey> man pages also
[06:51] <draik> ok
[06:51] <gogeta> just search for it
[06:51] <draik> so I put server on the sender and client on the recipient?
[06:51] <gogeta> maybe its just ssh
[06:51] <narg> draik: right.
[06:51] <intelikey> kong man://sshd
[06:51] <gogeta> sshd is the deamion
[06:52] <gogeta> probly aruldy installed
[06:52] <deb> draik: u need to have sshd running at server then only u can ssh to that perticular machine .
[06:52] <draik> kew
[06:52] <Modern_Myth> What's the difference between the regualr and alternate isos?
[06:53] <draik> well, my other Kubuntu machine says that the client is already installed
[06:53] <deb> Modern_Myth: I guess some advanced installation option are available .
[06:53] <gogeta> alt iso can run unintended
[06:53] <gogeta> there for mass installs
[06:54] <deb> draik: k. check if it's running . ps wax | grep ssh
[06:54] <gogeta> reg is what 90% of peopleneed
[06:54] <intelikey> Modern_Myth if your new to linux you might like the live cd  (regular) installer    if you want to costumize your install in any way  better use the alternative.
[06:55] <draik> How do I know if its running?
[06:55] <Modern_Myth> ahhh ... no mass installing here. cool. is arts the default sound system? Not new, but new to ubuntu/debian
[06:55] <deb> draik: ps wax | grep ssh
[06:55] <draik> did that
[06:55] <draik> how do I know if its running
[06:55] <draik> just as long as it shows back info?
[06:55] <deb> draik: u should see something like  : 4364 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:56] <narg> it should say /sbin/sshd
[06:56] <narg> or /usr/sbin/sshd :)
[06:56] <draik>  5308 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[06:56] <draik> 17931 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:56] <deb> draik: it's running .
[06:56] <draik> 21900 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep ssh
[06:56] <draik> kew
[06:57] <gogeta> easy enough to log in one of your pcs
[06:57] <gogeta> ssh its ip
[06:57] <deb> draik: try to ssh to some machine . ssh <username>@<ip>
[06:57] <draik> ok
[06:57] <gogeta> that to
[06:57] <draik> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>         ?
[06:58] <gogeta> no<>
[06:58] <draik> right
[06:58] <draik> didn't do any
[06:58] <draik> Connection refused
[06:58] <gogeta> the machines might not allow the conections
[06:58] <gogeta> you needto configure them
[06:59] <deb> draik: thhis means that sshd is not running at the machine u try to connect .
[06:59] <intelikey> ssh draik@localhost
[06:59] <gogeta> not relly
[06:59] <draik> It's running on both
[06:59] <narg> I think sshd disallows interactive logins by default
[06:59] <gogeta> most liux installs have ssh but firewalled off
[06:59] <gogeta> he needs to enable it
[07:00] <draik> How do I enable it?
[07:00] <gogeta> humm
[07:00] <gogeta> if it was a suse install its threw yast
[07:00] <draik> Kubuntu?
[07:00] <gogeta> but i never enabled a kubunto system
[07:00] <actinic> ssh - port 22 is open, right?
[07:00] <draik> how do I check my ports?
[07:00] <gogeta> you need toopen port22on the firewall
[07:01] <draik> on the firewall
[07:01] <intelikey> narg default... no  i don't think so.    ubuntu installs of ssh are pretty much ready to connect.   remember they are not about security.  they are about getting windows users happily linuxed
[07:01] <gogeta> nolinuxdistro leaves ssh open lol
[07:01] <gogeta> not even these guys
[07:02] <narg> gogeta: you'd be surprised
[07:02] <actinic> !ssh
[07:02] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:03] <gogeta> hell even osx has ssh enabld but firewalled
[07:03] <gogeta> and thats all abought easeof use\
[07:03] <gogeta> same for samba
[07:04] <draik> LOL
[07:04] <draik> Great
[07:04] <draik> it worked backwards
[07:05] <draik> LOL
[07:05] <gogeta> ?
[07:05] <draik> I can remote from laptop to desktop, not the other way around
[07:05] <rredd4> I have a 2400 series lexmark usb printer that is connected to a desktop computer that is usually in windows xp.  I have a laptop  that uses dapper and windoze.  I can share the printer in windoze.  Is it possible to do the same in dapper?  is there a wrapper that will work with the windoze driver?
[07:06] <draik> I want desktop to laptop
[07:06] <intelikey> gogeta well ubuntu has no firewall by default.
[07:06] <gogeta> humm
[07:06] <intelikey> so run the server on the other.
[07:06] <gogeta> maybe the laptop doesent have ssh installed
[07:06] <intelikey> draik ^
[07:06] <draik> it does
[07:06] <gogeta> the server
[07:06] <draik> it said it did
[07:06] <draik> and that it was the latest version
[07:07] <intelikey> now what you gonna do with that gogeta ?
[07:07] <gogeta> lol make shure you have the correct ip try again
[07:07] <draik> I do
[07:07] <draik> intelikey, will try that next
[07:07] <draik> deb, thank you for your help
[07:07] <draik> gogeta and intelikey, thank you for your patience as well
[07:07] <gogeta> set c4 on the desktop
[07:08] <gogeta> problem fixed
[07:08] <gogeta> forever
[07:08] <intelikey> draik is the sshd running on the box you are trying to ssh into ?
[07:08] <intelikey> you can ssh into localhost to test it.
[07:08] <draik> it's running on both
[07:09] <draik> I am currently installing the server on the laptop
[07:10] <intelikey> ssh draik@localhost  will test the box you run it on.  it uses loop back   so   lo <IP_ADDRESS>   must be up to ssh into lcalhost    (ip can vary)
[07:10] <draik> yup
[07:10] <draik> I can connect to my own localhost
[07:10] <intelikey> "<draik> it's running on both" ++ "<draik> I am currently installing the server on the laptop"    how can it be running and also being installed ?
[07:11] <intelikey> then the remote should be able to connect to it.
[07:11] <draik> I did the test on both "ps wax | grep ssh" and both were running
[07:12] <gogeta> the server and client are 2 diffrent programs
[07:12] <draik> I installed the server on the desktop and the client was already installed on the laptop
[07:12] <gogeta> thats why it worked backwords
[07:12] <gogeta> lol
[07:12] <draik> so now I installed the server on the laptop
[07:12] <gogeta> laptop should be ready now then
[07:13] <intelikey> posable firewall   or altered /etc/ssh/sshd.conf     or  /etc/hosts.deny   those can break it for you.
[07:13] <intelikey> but generally yes.
[07:13] <michael__> hey all, quick question... is the update fixed now?  just installed on new and dont wanna futz it up..
[07:13] <gogeta> naa these are fresh instalsnofirewall
[07:13] <draik> perfect, I'm in
[07:13] <draik> woohoo
[07:13] <gogeta> itshould work by default
[07:13] <gogeta> and itjust did
[07:13] <gogeta> lol
[07:13] <draik> yup
[07:13] <draik> yippy!
[07:14] <rredd4> is there software available to use windows printer drivers for dapper?  my printer does not have a linux driver
[07:14] <gogeta> it would be wise toblock port22 from outsideconnections from the net at the roughter level
[07:15] <narg> or just disallow password logins on sshd.
[07:15] <intelikey> gogeta which blows your  "<gogeta> nolinuxdistro leaves ssh open lol
[07:15] <gogeta> shure did
[07:15] <gogeta> rembers tofirewallkubunto later
[07:15] <gogeta> lol
[07:16] <intelikey> gogeta yes.  or turn sshd off on the box they can hit.
[07:16] <gogeta> my boxes are a xbox/modbox pc and a imac
[07:16] <BlindDevoshun> rembers tofirewalkubunto later
[07:17] <gogeta> lol
[07:17] <gogeta> i just cleaned this keybord keys still stiff
[07:17] <intelikey> gogeta like i said *buntu is not at all about security.   not in any way shape form or fashion.   they are all about "get that windows **** happily linuxed at all costs"
[07:17] <draik> How do you turn off sshd?
[07:18] <gogeta> disable it at boot
[07:18] <draik> how?
[07:18] <BlindDevoshun> lol
[07:18] <gogeta> arg
[07:18] <deb> draik: killall sshd
[07:18] <draik> can I do that now, or only at boot?
[07:18] <gogeta> killall works anytime
[07:18] <intelikey> draik sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop     then use update-rc.d to switch it so it doesn't restart at boot
[07:18] <gogeta> you can make it neverload by default
[07:19] <gogeta> then instaeedof stopuse start
[07:19] <draik> kew
[07:19] <gogeta> when you whant it on
[07:19] <intelikey> man update-rc.d
[07:20] <intelikey> gogeta as far as that goes.   sshd   works anytime too  :)
[07:20] <intelikey> root that  ^
[07:20] <timbba> still new to kubuntu and linux, so i need some help again..
[07:20] <gogeta> lol
[07:21] <timbba> I installed styleclock for kde, but how can I start it?
[07:21] <gogeta> my newbie linux days i managedto crash the system
[07:21] <intelikey> ask if it's ok to ask if it's ok to ask a question first.
[07:21] <gogeta> lol
[07:21] <gogeta> yes i crashed linux
[07:21] <intelikey> :)
[07:21] <gogeta> a redhat system
[07:21] <gogeta> lol
[07:22] <deoptima> can i ask something?
[07:22] <gogeta> of course
[07:22] <intelikey> lol @ deoptima
[07:22] <deoptima> how so you decompress a bz2 file?
[07:22] <deoptima> i had to ask if i could ask
[07:22] <gogeta> thers a few ways
[07:22] <deoptima> ok command line
[07:22] <gogeta> bunzip2 -d file
[07:23] <gogeta> you can doit with tar as well but i forgotthe command
[07:23] <draik> Thank you deb, gogeta and intelikey
[07:23] <intelikey> timbba try konsole    style[TAB]         see if it dont complete the command for you.
[07:23] <deoptima> sweet works like a charm i tried bunzip but not bunzip2
[07:24] <deoptima> [tab]  rocks
[07:24] <gogeta> yea commion mastake
[07:24] <timbba> intelikey: it doesn't complete..
[07:24] <intelikey> deoptima bunzip blah
[07:25] <intelikey> timbba hmmm     let me check.
[07:27] <intelikey> oh timbba that may not be an app   just skins for the clock app    try right click the clock and properties
[07:28] <timbba> tried that too, but can't find the styleclock there..
[07:29] <intelikey> actually it says it has an executable.      timbba do this.    dpkg -L styleclock | grep 'bin/'
[07:30] <intelikey> see if that shows anything.
[07:30] <timbba> nothing
[07:30] <intelikey> well that's not good.
[07:31] <intelikey> give me a sec
[07:32] <intelikey> i'm getting it now.  it takes me long time  'dialup'
[07:32] <BlindDevoshun> champagne grapes are good too though
[07:35] <intelikey> timbba open    /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/fashionclock/index.docbook
[07:36] <timbba> ok
[07:37] <timbba> what now? opened it by kate
[07:39] <intelikey> timbba let me try one more time.    i'll see if i can make this painless.      in konqueror  dubble click    /usr/share/apps/kicker/applets/styleclock.desktop    and see what happens
[07:41] <intelikey> timbba how did that work out ?
[07:42] <timbba> it gives me an error that the file doesn't have a Type=...
[07:44] <BlindDevoshun> what has magda seen that is so important
[07:44] <intelikey> mercy me.       if you can't find it in the add to pannel menu you must be SOL    </shrugs>
[07:44] <intelikey> there is nothing else executable in that package.
[07:46] <timbba> now it works... sorry for my stupidity.. add to panel, of course... I just supposed that it would replace my clock..
[07:46] <Diabolic> Is there a Windows Media Player plugin for Linux?
[07:47] <intelikey> timbba i think it would have on a restart of X   not sure though.
[07:47] <intelikey> plugin ?
[07:47] <intelikey> !mplayer
[07:47] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[07:47] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:47] <intelikey> !vlc
[07:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:48] <Diabolic> intelikey: For web browsers.
[07:48] <timbba> thanks intelikey
[07:48] <intelikey> Diabolic take your pick ^
[07:49] <intelikey> timbba yeah no problem.  sorry i took the long way around.   just assumed you checked the obvious first....
[07:49] <kevjava> Diabolic: Try apt-get install mozilla-mplayer.
[07:49] <michael__> diabolic-http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/multimedia/
[07:49] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:49] <michael__> lotsa answers out there
[07:50] <kevjava> Diabolic: It's in the multiverse repo
[07:50] <Diabolic> kevjava: k, but would it work for Opera as well?
[07:50] <intelikey> like i said.   take your pick.   there is xine and mplayer plugins as well as other answers.
[07:51] <Diabolic> Yep.
[07:51] <kevjava> Hmm.. dunno, I don't really use opera... maybe it's like konqueror and uses mozilla plugins, though.
[07:51] <Diabolic> Thanks.
[07:51] <intelikey> well fellaz,  i'm went.
[07:54] <jamadagni> hello i am trying to create a local repo using dpkg-scanpackages and it says:
[07:54] <jamadagni> Packages in archive but missing from override file:
[07:54] <jamadagni> what to do?
[07:56] <Diabolic> !codecs
[07:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:57] <BlindDevoshun> !codecs
[07:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <spazz> no programs will open.
[08:04] <spazz> ... argh.
[08:05] <BlindDevoshun> hahaha
[08:05] <jamadagni> hello can anyone help me?
[08:05] <spazz> i can help you break something
[08:05] <spazz> if thats what you need
[08:05] <jamadagni> oh ocme on -- i asked a q above about an error
[08:06] <spazz> ... today?
[08:06] <spazz> i wasnt looking in here.
[08:06] <spazz> i just opened the window.
[08:06] <madhatter_> can somebody tell me how to install a package off the internet?
[08:07] <jamadagni>  i am trying to create a local repo using dpkg-scanpackages and it says:
[08:07] <jamadagni> Packages in archive but missing from override file:
[08:07] <jamadagni>  what to do?
[08:07] <jamadagni> @madhatter_ - pl be more specific. is the package available from the ubuntu repos or no?
[08:07] <Jucato> guess the experts are still out...
[08:07] <Jucato> [ADVERTISEMENT]  Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:08] <spazz> The forums ate my computers soul.
[08:08] <Jucato> O_o
[08:08] <spazz> >-<
[08:08] <madhatter_> qt23-dev-tools
[08:08] <spazz> Argh! I just installed Frostwire.
[08:08] <madhatter_> trying to get wifi working :P
[08:08] <spazz> Buuuuuuuuuuuuut it won't open. It tries to. But it doesn't.
[08:09] <spazz> Programs have been refusing to launch lately.
[08:09] <spazz> What's that mean?
[08:09] <Jucato> madhatter_: don't you mean qt3-dev-tools?
[08:09] <madhatter_> lol
[08:09] <madhatter_> yes
[08:09] <madhatter_> ty
[08:09] <Jucato> madhatter_: you can install it from the repositories
[08:10] <Jucato> !qt3-dev-tools
[08:10] <ubotu> qt3-dev-tools: Qt3 development tools. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1194 kB, installed size 4096 kB
[08:10] <madhatter_> i downloaded a tar/gz file (cant remember) and don't know how to make it work
[08:10] <Jucato> madhatter_: there's no need for you to do that
[08:11] <Jucato> because the package you are trying to install can be installed from the repositories, using Adept (or apt-get)
[08:11] <madhatter_> Jucato: I am brand new at linux, and was barely able to install make / gcc, can you explain how to install from a repo?
[08:11] <jamadagni> @Jucato: while using dpkg-scanpackages I get an error;  Packages in archive but missing from override file:
[08:11] <jamadagni> can you please help?
[08:11] <jamadagni> @madhatter: open adept
[08:11] <Jucato> jamadagni: unfortunately, I have no experience in that field
[08:11] <madhatter_> adept open
[08:12] <Jucato> madhatter_: look for qt3-dev-tools
[08:12] <Jucato> in Adept, I mean
[08:12] <spazz> wtf
[08:12] <spazz> Frostwire wont open. Makes no frekaing sense.
[08:13] <madhatter_> jucato, its not there
[08:13] <spazz> how the heck do you even fix a problem like that?
[08:13] <madhatter_> apt-get told me it couldn't find it either
[08:13] <jamadagni> @spazz: try opening it from a konsole session
[08:13] <jamadagni> you will get error messages there
[08:13] <Jucato> madhatter_: it means that you don't have your repositories enabled.
[08:13] <madhatter_> ok, so what next?
[08:13] <Jucato> madhatter_: in Adept, go to Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[08:14] <spazz> saying i need to update java and use the SUN version.
[08:14] <spazz> I thought I already isntalled the sun version.
[08:14] <Jucato> madhatter_: you will notice a lot of the lines are grayed out
[08:14] <spazz> How do I check what I have installed?
[08:14] <Jucato> !java
[08:14] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[08:14] <madhatter_> jucato: i see.
[08:14] <Jucato> spazz: check the section about selecting the Java version
[08:15] <Jucato> madhatter_: now, right-click on the lines that start with "deb" (not "deb-src")
[08:15] <spazz> im installing the package above
[08:15] <Jucato> spazz: even if you have installed Sun Java, you need to enable it as the default java
[08:15] <madhatter_> jucato: ok, now adept should work??
[08:15] <spazz> how do i do that?
[08:16] <Jucato> the link I gave has a section for that
[08:16] <madhatter_> or apt get i mean...
[08:16] <Jucato> madhatter_: it should. but you have to click on Apply (at the bottom) and then Fetch Updates after you have enabled those lines)
[08:17] <Jucato> madhatter_: you might also want to take a look at this Desktop Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[08:17] <Jucato> specially the part about Adding, Removing and Updating Applications
[08:17] <madhatter_> jucato: thank you so much, i've been working at this for a week now
[08:17] <Jucato> madhatter_: K Menu > Help would be your friend. The Desktop Guide can also be found there for offline reading
[08:18] <Jucato> it's very easy to understand, and written with beginners in mind
[08:19] <madhatter_> i will make sure to check that out ; )
[08:20] <ijeff> Hello.. does anyone know if there's a way to completely remove all KDE + KDE suite apps?
[08:21] <ijeff> I'd like to install the Ubuntu GNOME package instead
[08:21] <ijeff> is there anyway to do so without a total re-installation?
[08:21] <Jucato> ijeff: it's possible, but not easy
[08:21] <ijeff> How can it be done?
[08:21] <ijeff> Or would it mean manually removing each application?
[08:22] <Jucato> well, in a way, it's like that, but maybe this page could help you: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[08:22] <Jucato> there's a guide there about installing GNOME over Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[08:22] <Jucato> and then removing KDE (Pure Gnome)
[08:22] <ijeff> Thanks ^_^
[08:23] <Jucato> but I would personally prefer a fresh install, if you're really sure you want to kick out KDE
[08:23] <ijeff> I can't get ahold of a Ubuntu Dapper disc..
[08:23] <ijeff> and dist-upgrade is kind of sloppy
[08:23] <Jucato> ijeff: you only have a breezy installer?
[08:24] <ijeff> yes
[08:24] <Jucato> ah I see.
[08:24] <ijeff> If I were to dist-update with my Breezy..
[08:24] <ijeff> will it update my boot loading screen and such as well?
[08:25] <Jucato> if you install ubuntu-desktop over Kubuntu, the bootsplash will be changed to Ubuntu. Then during the installation, you will be asked whether you want KDM or GDM as the default
[08:26] <ijeff> oh that's great
[08:26] <ijeff> I'll do that then, along with that Pure GNOME guide
[08:26] <ijeff> thanks
[08:26] <ijeff> can Kubuntu be removed by remove kubuntu-desktop? or when it's a full install i must do it manually?
[08:27] <Jucato> the Pure GNOME page gives you the instructions you need...
[08:28] <Jucato> I'm presuming you have upgrade to Dapper already?
[08:28] <ijeff> this install, was from a Dapper Kubuntu disc
[08:28] <Jucato> aah
[08:28] <ijeff> I want to switch to an Ubuntu build
[08:28] <ijeff> (complete conversion)
[08:28] <Jucato> no, you can't use aptitude remove if it's a complete installation
[08:29] <ijeff> okay, so the manual way from Pure Gnome then?
[08:29] <Jucato> yep, the apt-get remove <long list>
[08:29] <ijeff> okay, great
[08:29] <ijeff> I'm in the process of installing GNOME-Desktop
[08:29] <ijeff> that's the one for complete gnome right?
[08:30] <Jucato> ijeff: better install ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <ijeff> oh that's what I meant (typo) sorry
[08:30] <Jucato> ok... the "Install GNOME" page is your guide
[08:30] <ijeff> I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <Jucato> err
[08:30] <Jucato> you should use aptitude instead...
[08:30] <ijeff> what's the difference?
[08:30] <Jucato> just like what the guide says
[08:31] <Jucato> err.. nvm
[08:31] <ijeff> ><
[08:31] <Jucato> you're sure you won't go back to KDE right?
[08:31] <draik> Jucato, I read the link you sent me... VERY interesting
[08:31] <ijeff> yes
[08:31] <Jucato> draik: hehehe
[08:31] <ijeff> positive :)
[08:31] <draik> It's been going on for 3 years or so... hope to see if anything really happens
[08:31] <ijeff> (if ever not, I have my Kubuntu disc)
[08:31] <Jucato> ijeff: ehehehe
[08:32] <Jucato> draik: yeah, I really hope so. btw, if you want some more info about other KDE-related SoC projects
[08:32] <Jucato> err my mistake..
[08:32] <Jucato> not SoC... SoK
[08:32] <draik> ?
[08:32] <draik> SoK?
[08:32] <Jucato> Seasons of KDE
[08:32] <ijeff> Jucato: so apt-get install is fine? what would be the difference?
[08:32] <Jucato> SoC = Google's Summer of Code
[08:33] <draik> I need to look into that.. SoC... sounds like something I can get into
[08:33] <Jucato> well, that really depends..
[08:33] <Jucato> (that was for draik)
[08:34] <ijeff> (I know ^ ^)
[08:34] <Jucato> ijeff: while you're waiting for everything to install.... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[08:34] <ijeff> ah cool thx
[08:34] <draik> I am looking into it ATM
[08:34] <Jucato> draik: koolness
[08:34] <spazz> O M G
[08:34] <spazz> BITTORRENT WORKING NOW
[08:34] <spazz> lol
[08:34] <Jucato> spazz: ehehehe
[08:34] <Jucato> using what?
[08:35] <spazz> lmao. I installed Bittorrent (BitTornado)
[08:35] <Jucato> draik: this: http://lwn.net/Articles/193723/  and this: http://lwn.net/Articles/193724/
[08:35] <Jucato> spazz: eheheh! go for it!
[08:35] <draik> spazz, none of my torrent clients ever work
[08:35] <spazz> Seems to be picky about some torrens though. Like, tried a Family Guy torrent and it had some kinda error like it wouldn't even conenct to peers.
[08:35] <madhatter_> Jucato: i ran into a problem following an Ubuntu wiki, is it possible you can take a brief look at it?
[08:36] <ijeff> jucato: hmm aptitude looks more efficient
[08:36] <spazz> draik - yea ... it's been a hassle to get things running right here.
[08:36] <Jucato> madhatter_: if I can help..
[08:36] <madhatter_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
[08:36] <Jucato> ijeff: yeah, but the only problem is that if you're going to make Ubuntu your main system
[08:36] <Jucato> ijeff: you might want to be able to remove ubuntu-desktop at one point or another
[08:37] <madhatter_> Jucato: i am at 3.3.4
[08:37] <spazz> What's ubuntu-desktop?
[08:37] <Jucato> madhatter_: I'll check. I'm not familiar with WiFi though
[08:37] <ijeff> jucato: this is a temporary computer of mine (until I order my new iMac) so I format a lot on this machine
[08:37] <spazz> ... lol @ ijeff - I'm getting a Mac too ... in like.. lol... prob another year when I have enough money saved up lol.
[08:38] <madhatter_> Jucato: i ran into my problem when i did make, and it gave me an error but said don't worry, so i moved on and my computer froze when i activated the card
[08:38] <spazz> still have to turbo teh car and all lol
[08:38] <Jucato> spazz: the metapackage which installs Ubuntu's selection of GNOME apps and Ubuntu's default settings
[08:38] <ijeff> spazz: I broke my Powerbook G4 17" =(
[08:38] <spazz> aww.
[08:38] <ijeff> spazz: Logic board failure I believe
[08:38] <Jucato> madhatter_: did you install "build-essential" ??
[08:38] <madhatter_> Jucato: yes.
[08:38] <ijeff> spazz: forgot to apply the extended warrenty... sucks
[08:39] <spazz> I can't wait to get a Macbook Pro ... then can have all three OS's on there... lol running at once. Can have all my games, all my OSX stuff ... and be able to tinker with Linux too (woo...xgl)
[08:39] <ijeff> spazz: waiting for new chips, then getting iMac 20"
[08:39] <Jucato> madhatter_: sorry, I'm not familiar with WiFi so I can't really help...
[08:39] <madhatter_> Jucato: cool thanks anyway
[08:39] <ijeff> spazz: I long to see the day when all OSes can be interchangable and usable all at once, without virtualization =)
[08:39] <D4rkly> how do i install kxdocker ?
[08:40] <ijeff> jucato: hmm how long does ubuntu-desktop usually take to install? I'm considering heading off to bed
[08:40] <spazz> ... that's why they are coming out with those new chips.
[08:40] <Jucato> ijeff: almost half as long as it took Kubuntu to install....
[08:40] <spazz> That have the built in virtualization. So... can run stuff parrallell with no slowdown.
[08:40] <osiris> sudo apt-get install kxdocker ?  D4rkly ?
[08:40] <ijeff> jucato: don't remember how long it too kubuntu to install XD lol
[08:40] <Jucato> ijeff: unfortunately, it will be asking you some questions that you might want to answer
[08:41] <ijeff> jucato: it already asked me the gdm one.. what others are there?
[08:41] <D4rkly> i have it installed but how do i enable it ?
[08:41] <Jucato> ijeff: I really can't tell. downloading speeds and installation may vary
[08:41] <Jucato> ijeff: it's installing already? finished downloading?
[08:41] <ijeff> jucato: quite awhile ago
[08:41] <Jucato> oh...
[08:41] <Jucato> it won't take long...
[08:41] <ijeff> jucato: before you sent me the last link :)
[08:41] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:42] <ijeff> uh oh
[08:42] <D4rkly> how do i run kxdocker ?
[08:42] <ijeff> dpkg: error processing gnome-games-data (--configure):
[08:42] <ijeff>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:42] <ijeff> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-games:
[08:42] <ijeff>  gnome-games depends on gnome-games-data (= 1:2.14.3-0ubuntu1); however:
[08:43] <ijeff>   Package gnome-games-data is not configured yet.
[08:43] <ijeff> dpkg: error processing gnome-games (--configure):
[08:43] <ijeff>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[08:43] <ijeff> Setting up libgnome-mag2 (0.12.5-0ubuntu2) ...
[08:43] <ijeff> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[08:43] <ijeff> jeff@JeffNix:~$
[08:43] <ijeff> XD sorry for spam
[08:43] <ijeff> is that bad?
[08:43] <Jucato> ijeff: don't paste like that
[08:43] <Jucato> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:43] <ijeff> (yeah I forgot about pastebin ><)
[08:43] <ijeff> Was the install interupted?
[08:44] <Jucato> ijeff: try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:44] <ijeff> interrupted or did it finish without gnome-games?
[08:44] <Jucato> if it wasn't finished, it would continue with that command
[08:44] <ijeff> oh it's installing it again :) thanks
[08:44] <ijeff> the -a command means what?
[08:45] <Jucato> all
[08:45] <ijeff> dpkg?
[08:45] <Jucato> dpkg - package manager for Debian
[08:45] <spazz> FREAKING YES! I figured out how to make Frostwire work now!
[08:45] <Jucato> spazz: nice!
[08:45] <ijeff> spazz: congrats ^ ^
[08:46] <Jucato> ijeff: to get some ideas about commands, go to Konqueror and type in: man:/<command> for example, man:/dpkg
[08:46] <ijeff> ah yes man
[08:46] <ijeff> "man"
[08:47] <Jucato> although, man can be crytpic at times, for us mere mortals
[08:47] <ijeff> maybe not for the developers ;) lol
[08:48] <ijeff> Hopefully I'll learn to.. >_<
[08:48] <ijeff> code
[08:48] <spazz> Wait, frostwire gave me error. think it might still work tho
[08:48] <ijeff> spazz: what error?
[08:48] <spazz> I am putting it in pastbin.
[08:49] <ijeff> well I'm off to bed.. I'm beginning to doze off
[08:49] <ijeff> Thank you very much for your help Jucato
[08:50] <ijeff> hope to see you around again
[08:50] <spazz> see ya ijeff
[08:50] <Jucato> heheh! i'm always here.. at least most of the time
[08:50] <Jucato> bye!
[08:50] <spazz> come back in here soon
[08:50] <ijeff> Goodnight everyone :)
[08:50] <ijeff> Will do
[08:50] <spazz> nite
[08:50] <ijeff> *passes out* = =zzzZZzzz
[08:51] <spazz> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/151625
[08:52] <spazz> There's the error I got in the terminal whenever I launched Frostwire.
[08:52] <spazz> Wonder what that means, can't find any Google results on it.
[08:52] <Jucato> O_o
[08:53] <spazz> I don't know though, but my files downloaded in Frostwire.
[08:53] <spazz> Just ... some warning.
[08:53] <stoic> ugh... 2s lag
[08:54] <stoic> hello all
[08:54] <spazz> says my lag is 115ms
[08:54] <spazz> Hi.
[08:54] <Jucato> all says hi to stoic
[08:54] <stoic> thankyou
[08:55] <stoic> i feel loved
[08:55] <Jucato> hehehe
[08:55] <spazz> lol.
[08:56] <spazz> woo. finally can download songs and movies lol.
[08:56] <spazz> im happy about that.
[08:56] <spazz> now i can live with linux lol. until something breaks.
[08:57] <Jucato> lol
[08:57] <stoic> lol
[08:57] <Jucato> I give you 2 days tops
[08:57] <Jucato> ehehehe
[08:57] <spazz> I give it about 8 hours.
[08:57] <Jucato> I'm too kind...
[08:57] <spazz> ... or whenever I decide to take on XGL/Compiz again. lol.
[08:57] <stoic> i think somthing just broke
[08:57] <spazz> Don't jinx it. You might cause everyone's box to explode.
[08:58] <stoic> yeah... best not
[08:58] <spazz> Found a hack... to trick websites into thinking that your Flash 7 is Flash 9...
[08:59] <spazz> Which ... is supposed to make the audio/video sync problem better or go away.
[08:59] <stoic> that sounds usefull... might you share with us?
[08:59] <spazz> yea just a min
[09:00] <spazz> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/flash-9-for-xubuntu/
[09:00] <spazz> Supposed to make some sites that normally wouldn't work, work.
[09:00] <spazz> Like, Myspace, Youtube, ect.
[09:00] <spazz> Although ... Youtube doesn't seem TOO bad. Not perfect, but eh ...
[09:00] <spazz> I changed the default sound server that flash uses through firefox.
[09:00] <spazz> in a config file.
[09:01] <stoic> cool, thankyou
[09:01] <spazz> I want to download some TV series ....... like seaons at once.
[09:02] <spazz> But I'm looking at it ........ ones like 6GB.
[09:02] <spazz> LOL ... I don't think my ISP would like that.
[09:03] <stoic> hmmm... what ISP do you use?
[09:03] <spazz> Comcast, but I mean ... that's 6GB of illegal tv downloading right there lol.
[09:03] <spazz> I think they look for stuff like that.
[09:04] <spazz> Or like, the one time I tried downloading the internet to floppy disks with dial up lol.
[09:04] <stoic> i have heard of people getting their net blackflagged just because of massive ammounts of incomming information, weather it be identified or not
[09:04] <spazz> yea... why i try to stay away from bittorent.
[09:04] <spazz> I'll usually have like ... 700mb files downloading (3 or so at once) about ... 2 times a week.
[09:04] <spazz> So that's probably
[09:04] <spazz> ...  Hate ..damn commercials, and waiting .. want to skip around if I want to...
[09:06] <stoic> ummmm.... i at one point had 3 terrabytes of downloaded.... well... i wont admit to anything so we will just call it.... tacos
[09:06] <stoic> yes... i downloaded 3 terrabytes of... tacos....
[09:06] <stoic> *cough*
[09:06] <spazz> Yea, taco1.jpg , taco2.jpb, taco3wet-tshirt-contest.mpg
[09:06] <spazz> that type thing
[09:06] <spazz> lol
[09:07] <spazz> Woah. Wonder what kind of file a jpb is, lol wut u been downloading...
[09:07] <stoic> maybe... again i will not admit to it online
[09:07] <plugs> lolz
[09:07] <spazz> lol.
[09:10] <z-ro> download divergence eve 1st season
[09:11] <spazz> wtf.
[09:11] <spazz> Well.  At any given time there is probably 5 people talking at once.
[09:15] <spazz> ... find that.. to be the case with majority of IRC rooms.
[09:16] <spazz> more or less a support channel tho, lol.
[09:16] <keittoruokaa> hehe... I guess everyone is just trying to get high uptime while idle
[09:16] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:16] <spazz> yea, lol. or they just leave their apps open
[09:16] <stoic> haha
[09:16] <Jucato> sometimes more than 5...
[09:16] <spazz> and are like, ha ha can windows do that
[09:16] <keittoruokaa> hahaha
[09:17] <Jucato> some of the parked nicks here are KDE or Kubuntu developers, btw...
[09:17] <spazz> ... I want a windows box around though.
[09:17] <Jucato> others are channel ops
[09:17] <spazz> ... so I'm getting a Mac eventually lol. (OSX, Linux, Windows for teh games) all on same comp.
[09:17] <keittoruokaa> lol I'm at school an ppl is using Cygwin, they are training linux commands using Linux emulate program :D
[09:17] <osiris> there are also some of us that park to read the logs, and see what we can learn from others issues
[09:18] <keittoruokaa> But I have my own "server" computer with real Linux :p
[09:18] <spazz> I used Cygin once. Not sure why I even downloaded it, but ... never did anything with it.
[09:18] <stoic> <("<)      <(" )^   ^(")^    ^( ")>    (>")>
[09:18] <spazz> .... wonder if i have logging.
[09:18] <spazz> Yea, I like being in here cuz I can read other people's problems and how they fix them.
[09:18] <keittoruokaa> heh, it doesnt have any good commands like atp-get or aptitude :) so it sux
[09:18] <Jucato> time for my usual advertisements...
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[09:19] <keittoruokaa> O_o
[09:19] <keittoruokaa> I guess I just violated that rule ^^
[09:19] <paul___> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:19] <paul___> oops
[09:19] <spazz> I just joined lol.
[09:19] <spazz> Ok. Now I have a issue to tackle!
[09:20] <spazz> And it was under 8 hours!!
[09:20] <spazz> (cough)
[09:20] <stoic> hm... is there no admin here?
[09:20] <word|sleep> Umm..is there a command that gets simmilar output to the windows 'ipconfig' ?
[09:20] <Jucato> you want me to call them stoic? ehehe
[09:20] <stoic> ifconfig
[09:20] <Jucato> ifconfig
[09:20] <stoic> no thats ok
[09:20] <stoic> i just noticed it
[09:20] <spazz> In Konqueror - when I right click on an image and try to set it as wallpaper... it just turns my dekstop into the default color.
[09:21] <Jucato> hmmm
[09:21] <spazz> Argh, how do I fix that? Cuz I like to browse through all my thumbnails at once to select a new wallpaper. Unless there's another way to do that.
[09:22] <Jucato> spazz: can you choose the same pictures/images using the Configure Desktop dialog box (right-click on desktop)
[09:22] <spazz> Yea, but I can't see all the pictures at once.
[09:23] <stoic> hey spazz, thanks for that hack... it worked on my flashplayer
[09:23] <spazz> It makes me select an invidual file to preview them. I want to see the entire folder at once as thumbnails.
[09:23] <spazz> stoic - lol it did? What site did you test it on?
[09:23] <stoic> myspace
[09:23] <word|sleep> thanks stoic and Jucato. :D
[09:23] <stoic> the most annoying web page in the world when it comes to that stuff
[09:23] <spazz> lmao.
[09:24] <stoic> np word|sleep
[09:24] <spazz> yea. i know about the myspace ....
[09:24] <spazz> friend is nuts about it.
[09:24] <stoic> i haven't visited that site for.... a long time... but i figured this would be a good chance to test how crappy it still is
[09:24] <Jucato> argh.. social networking sites....
[09:25] <spazz> ... eh. I like youtube though.
[09:25] <zero> where to download divergence eve
[09:25] <spazz> what is that about? i never did look it up
[09:25] <spazz> some kinda sci fi series?
[09:25] <Jucato> spazz: I have a trick for you... about the wallpaper thingy
[09:26] <Jucato> spazz: right-click on the desktop > Configure Desktop > then click on the folder icon so you can browse for your images
[09:26] <spazz> yea?
[09:26] <spazz> i did that
[09:26] <Jucato> inside the dialog box that launches, right-click select View > Thumbnails
[09:26] <spazz> it just .. shows file list.
[09:26] <spazz> there's no .......... what?
[09:26] <spazz> I looked there. eh ... cuz that's first thing i thought to do. maybe i overlooked it.
[09:26] <Jucato> .......
[09:26] <spazz> argh hold on lol let me look again
[09:28] <zero> any place for direct anime downloads
[09:28] <Jucato> spazz: you get a dialog box that shows you a list of folder and files right?
[09:28] <spazz> ..... yea
[09:28] <spazz> But ... I have to click on each one to see what it is.
[09:28] <Jucato> right-click on an empty space in that dialog box
[09:29] <Jucato> right-click on an empty space....
[09:29] <spazz> ....... I want to be able to see them all at once, so I can look at which ever one looks coolest and then use it.
[09:29] <spazz> ok
[09:29] <spazz> AUGH! i cant believe it was that simple.
[09:29] <spazz> I was trying to go through all the menus.
[09:29] <Jucato> ....
[09:29] <spazz> ...
[09:29] <spazz> lol i like how u can zoom into the icons
[09:29] <stoic> lets see how easy it is to get banned from the windows channel...
[09:29] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:31] <stoic> and i have been banned
[09:32] <spazz> from where?
[09:32] <spazz> oh LOL
[09:32] <spazz> just read above
[09:32] <stoic> windows room
[09:35] <Tm_T> err
[09:35] <Tm_T> kids
[09:35] <spazz> hi.
[09:36] <Jucato> kids?
[09:36] <stoic> ?
[09:37] <stoic> hm wonder what hes doing...(blazed)
[09:37] <spazz> wtf kde kicker just crashed
[09:37] <spazz> ... argh!
[09:37] <spazz> definately way under 8 hours.
[09:37] <Jucato> lol
[09:37] <Jucato> I was about to say that
[09:37] <spazz> now ... only this window
[09:37] <spazz> and konq is open
[09:38] <spazz> everything else is gone
[09:38] <Jucato> Alt+F2, then "kicker"
[09:38] <Tm_T> 10:20 < stoic> hm... is there no admin here?
[09:38] <Tm_T> what was that?
[09:39] <Tm_T> keittoruokaa: nice nick
[09:39] <stoic> i didn't think there was an admin here
[09:39] <Jucato> stoic: there are. they're just not opped
[09:39] <spazz> crap
[09:39] <spazz> it keeps crashing!!
[09:39] <stoic> gotcha
[09:40] <Tm_T> stoic: yeah, it's part of freenode way, to gain op status only when needed
[09:40] <stoic> cool
[09:40] <spazz> damnit. now my instant messenger crashed too.
[09:41] <Jucato> I hear a reboot coming...
[09:41] <stoic> wtf are you doing to that computer?\
[09:41] <spazz> argh. someone needs to take care of that myth
[09:41] <spazz> about not having to reboot linux ever
[09:41] <spazz> I just ... tried changing the wallpaper
[09:41] <spazz> and kicker crashed.
[09:41] <Jucato> no one ever said about not having to reboot Linux "ever"
[09:41] <spazz> then i got an IM ... and the kopete crashed.
[09:41] <stoic> wow....
[09:41] <Jucato> spazz: try restarting just X? eheheh
[09:42] <spazz> my apps still run in the background?
[09:42] <Jucato> some would
[09:42] <stoic> yeah, theyll run just fine, at least some will
[09:42] <Jucato> actually only those that were started before X, I think
[09:42] <spazz> how do i know which ones will and woont?
[09:43] <osiris> if they depend on X to run, they wont stay running
[09:43] <spazz> well. looks like kopete depends on x.
[09:43] <spazz> ill brb when i log out and in
[09:43] <stoic> irc doesnt
[09:43] <Jucato> almost everything KDE depends on X... almost...
[09:43] <stoic> nvm...
[09:43] <Jucato> stoic: yes it does, if you're using Konversation
[09:43] <stoic> ah
[09:43] <Jucato> or even irssi, if you're running it in Konsole
[09:44] <osiris> linux users need to learn how to deal w/o X
[09:44] <Jucato> irssi ftw!!
[09:44] <Tm_T> irssi <3
[09:44] <Tm_T> I keep my irssi in screen, in separate shellserver :p
[09:45] <stoic> osiris: i agree
[09:45] <pielgrzym> hello, could someone tell me how to remove software I compiled and installed myself (not through the packet manager)?
[09:45] <osiris> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=556.0
[09:45] <pielgrzym> I need to recompile amarok to enable debugging
[09:45] <stoic> i admit i am not 100% unreliable on X, but im working on i
[09:46] <Jucato> pielgrzym: if you still kept the directory where you ./configure, make, and make install, just do "sudo make uninstall"
[09:46] <pielgrzym> Jucato: and if I deleted it? :(
[09:46] <Jucato> pielgrzym: hm... doesn't it appear in Adept or in other package managers?
[09:46] <osiris> screwed unles you know where it wound up
[09:47] <pielgrzym> nope
[09:47] <pielgrzym> wait
[09:47] <pielgrzym> the dir is in the trash
[09:47] <pielgrzym> I'll bring it back
[09:47] <Tm_T> =)
[09:47] <Jucato> osiris: doesn't the KDM login screen have an option for Console Login?
[09:47] <stoic> yes, it does
[09:47] <Tm_T> Jucato: should have
[09:47] <osiris> but kdm still runs in the background
[09:47] <Jucato> it does? hm..
[09:47] <pielgrzym> will it remove all dependant stuff? I just want to remove only amarok to recompile it with debugging enabled :)
[09:47] <osiris> and if X fails kdm wont boot
[09:48] <Jucato> Alt+F1....
[09:48] <Jucato> osiris: you and Hawkwind are business partners in LFD?
[09:48] <osiris> no
[09:49] <osiris> i am just a former mandriva user, that has "made the switch"
[09:49] <Jucato> so was Hawkwind. ehehe
[09:49] <osiris> he IS a good friend of mine, and has taught me alot.  THAT i cant deny
[09:51] <an> hey guys
[09:51] <stoic> hello
[09:51] <Jucato> hi
[09:51] <an> how can i configure my kmplayer? the color of the movie is too bright
[09:52] <an> how can i configure it to more dark?
[09:52] <Jucato> hm.. brb
[09:52] <osiris> idk where the video equalizers are in that program
[09:52] <osiris> i use gmplayer, or vlc
[09:54] <an> anybody use kmplayer?
[09:54] <stoic> sorry no
[10:02] <an> anybody use mplayer?
[10:03] <sir_hc> anyone around here that can help me login to the rescue prompt?
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> sir_hc, what the problem
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> the "recovery mode" or failsafe
[10:05] <sir_hc> i select rescue mode from grub
[10:05] <sir_hc> i have to press ctrl c to skip configuring network interfaces
[10:05] <sir_hc> (coz that's the problem i need fixed)
[10:05] <sir_hc> then i enter the first command (to open up a file in vi) and it does nothing
[10:05] <sir_hc> i hard rebooted
[10:05] <sir_hc> tried another command, nothing
[10:06] <sir_hc> it just sits there flashing, driving me insane
[10:07] <pielgrzym> I've got a question :)
[10:07] <pielgrzym> I uninstalled amarok successfully
[10:07] <sir_hc> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223265&page=1 is the page i'm refering to
[10:07] <pielgrzym> I ran ./configure with debug option enabled
[10:08] <pielgrzym> but when I ran "make" and "make install" it was mostli reporting "it's skipping or not doing anything, because everythin was already made"
[10:08] <pielgrzym> shall I delete something or run some nifty command in the amarok package dir?
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> uhh
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry hold on
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym, what are you doing this for?
[10:21] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: amarok (1.4.2) keeps freezing in various moments
[10:21] <pielgrzym> this drives me mad
[10:21] <pielgrzym> ;)
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym, what moments?
[10:22] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: I just made a post on amarok forum about one of the problems: http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php/topic,12873.0.html
[10:22] <pielgrzym> that's the main problem
[10:23] <pielgrzym> I'd like to see what debugger says :) or at least give the debugger output to some competent people ;)
[10:23] <Mehercle> 'morning
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym, you'll have to forgive me, i'v been drinking and its either IRC or pron
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> how big are the files
[10:24] <Admiral_Chicago> as in Gbs or something
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> it might just be amarok scanning solwly
[10:25] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: these are normal mp3
[10:25] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: around 5000. The normal collection filtering works like a charm (it freezes only sometimes)
[10:26] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: the collection is about 30GB big
[10:26] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: everything on NTFS read-only partition
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i have a 45gb music collection
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> takes a while
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl\
[10:29] <pielgrzym> Admiral_Chicago: 20-30minutes? :) it's a bug for sure:)
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> pielgrzym, yea
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> might just be your system
[10:57] <rlj> what is the default filename encoding used in kubuntu on an ext3 fs?
[10:58] <rlj> since all of my system is utf-8 (i think), i would like the fs structure to use utf-8 as well
[10:58] <Bazzi> should be utf8, but I don't know for sure
[10:58] <rlj> now, when i transfer files from both windows and linux using ssh to the box, swedish letters get messed up
[10:58] <rlj> so i wonder if they don't transfer the names properly
[10:58] <rlj> or if the problem lies on the kubuntu box
[10:59] <rlj> but it would be nice if you can tell somehow in what encoding the fs is mounted
[10:59] <rlj> as i suspect you can specify what encoding to use on mount (although there is probably a default being used since my fstab isn't exotic=
[10:59] <rlj> )
[11:00] <Bazzi> maybe the ssh client is the broken thing in the chain as well
[11:01] <lupine_85> rlj: it should autodetect?
[11:01] <lupine_85> if not, I think you want the nls-(something)= option
[11:02] <rlj> yeah, my ntfs system is mounted with nls=utf8
[11:02] <rlj> so as long as ext3 understands the same parameter
[11:02] <rlj> i can try to explicitly state include it in fstab
[11:02] <rlj> reboot
[11:02] <rlj> and then check if my filenames look intact
[11:02] <rlj> if they do, it should already be utf-8 on the fs and ssh would be the culprit
[11:02] <lupine_85> was the ntfs OS (XP? 2000?) using nls=utf8? or a cp??? ?
[11:02] <rlj> possibly sshd on my sys and not ssh client but i'd have to check that
[11:03] <lupine_85> tbh, it shouldn't be the ssh client
[11:03] <rlj> i'm not sure actually, but currently it's mounted with nls=utf8
[11:03] <lupine_85> or the sshd
[11:03] <lupine_85> utf-8 is only equivalent to ASCII
[11:03] <lupine_85> non-ascii-standard characters won't transcode very will
[11:03] <lupine_85> well*
[11:03] <rlj> well, but when characters like , , , are transmitted in not utf-8 they end up wrong
[11:04] <rlj> only ascii filenames appear correct over ssh
[11:04] <JohnFlux> you can just set the character set to utf8
[11:04] <JohnFlux> what's the problem?
[11:04] <oslo> join ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <oslo> oups sorry
[11:05] <rlj> i just want to make sure swedish characters like ,  and , are encoded as utf-8 in the fs (possibly using 2+ bytes each then) and that ssh/sshd does it correctly as well
[11:05] <rlj> JohnFlux: i just want to verify that the encoding used on my ext3 fs is really utf-8. (since i guess ext3 does not force a specific encoding)
[11:06] <rlj> and if it's not, i want to make it mount as utf-8 and manually go through my files and fix the names to look good again
[11:06] <rlj> the majority of my files are just in ascii anyway, so it's only a part of them that require change
[11:28] <j2daosh> what package do i need to play .wmv?
[11:28] <j2daosh> can linux even play .wmv?
[11:29] <lupine_85> it can
[11:29] <lupine_85> you need to install w32codecs (PLF repo)
[11:29] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[11:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:29] <lupine_85> I think wmv9 isn't supported, and encypted ones aren't (obviously)
[11:30] <j2daosh> ok
[11:30] <j2daosh> thank you
[11:30] <Healot> for DRMed media, Windows is till the best, and the only way perhaps?
[11:31] <lupine_85> hence, windows is not The Way(tm)
[11:31] <lupine_85> and neither is DRM
[11:36] <spazz> hmm. I hosed my system.
[11:36] <spazz> But uh I found out what it was now... lol.
[11:37] <spazz> Jucato here?
[11:39] <Healot> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~leon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?ns=articles&limit=100&month=08%2F2006&wiki=enwiki >> look at entry #6
[11:47] <Jucato> spazz: just got back. what happened?
[11:48] <cox377> Hey all, in recent updates has their been any probs with wireless USB sticks??? basically my mates laptop running kubuntu keep giving an error every time i try and connect to his wifi network. I think the last time it worked properly was before all the updates! sorry new to this so if anything is unclear ask
[11:55] <lupine_85> cox377: the only thing that would affect it really is a kernel upgrade
[11:55] <lupine_85> e.g. the rt2570 wifi driver was in one of the kernels, but not later ones
[11:56] <cox377> hello :lupine_85
[11:56] <cox377> Yeh, it's a netgear usb adapter and i can to use the ndiswrapper to get it to work
[11:57] <lupine_85> if you're using ndiswrapper, it could b
[11:57] <lupine_85> *e that you've not got the kernel module any more
[11:57] <cox377> so i need to look at downgrading the kernal?
[11:57] <lupine_85> or upgrading the kernel module ;)
[11:57] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper
[11:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:58] <cox377> Ok, cheers i shall give it a go
[11:58] <cox377> thing is, the lappy still sees  the wifi router but just wont connect
[11:59] <cox377> would that still be a symptom of the module?
[12:01] <lupine_85> more likely that the (windows) drivers in question aren't working properly under your current revision of ndiswrapper
[12:01] <lupine_85> so a downgrade to whatever you had previously would be your best bed
[12:01] <lupine_85> bet* :D
[12:13] <cox377> lupine_85: do u know what the command would be to downgrade the module?
[12:13] <lupine_85> apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils=(version)
[12:14] <lupine_85> no idea how you'd find out what version you were using before, though :(
[12:14] <lupine_85> (you can do the same with your kernel)
[12:14] <cox377> Ummmm
[12:14] <cox377> lol
[12:14] <cox377> actually, isn't their a downgrade option under apt-get
[12:15] <lupine_85> maybe in adept
[12:15] <cox377> alright, well i'm gonna shoot round my mates and jump back on IRC there
[12:20] <fek> moin
[12:26] <sinkeri> uuuh
[12:27] <sinkeri> i dont know how to use this thing
[12:27] <vge> somebody can help me with wireless, im kinda nood with it?
[12:29] <sinkeri>  what
 whats my accesspoint or essedid if it's "open network" and in windows i dont need to set those, i dont get it?
[12:37] <lupine_85> _vge: by "open network" do you mean "no security"? Or "ad-hoc" mode?
[12:38] <_vge> lupine_85: can i say both?
[12:38] <GenuineBoy> eexexit
[12:40] <_vge> it shows in kde network manager as eth1 and WLM sees it as "Connection speed" max, but when i try to scan for network, no luck
[12:40] <lupine_85> sure. In that case, you need to change your wlan interface to "ad-hoc" mode (default is Managed)
[12:40] <lupine_85> in terminal, that's be "sudo iwconfig <interface> mode Ad-Hoc"
[12:42] <_vge> still, it gives "no networks found", but i know there is one
[12:43] <knob> lupine_85: u about?
[12:44] <lupine_85> for another 10 minutes or so
[12:45] <knob> hey
[12:45] <knob> it's cox377
[12:45] <_vge> can somebody help me to configure BCM4306 wireless? :/
[12:45] <knob> i was speaking to u 15 minutes or so again
[12:45] <knob> #about the wireless
[12:45] <knob> i'm not to sure about how to downgrade the module
[12:47] <lupine_85> me neither
[12:47] <lupine_85> you need to know which version you had previosuly before you can do anything meaningful
[12:49] <knob> lol
[12:49] <knob> any idea how i would go about doing that
[12:53] <knob> !ndiswrapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:04] <cogo_sakrth> halo
[01:08] <josh__> hows it going all? is there a way to make ' show up in man pages?
[01:09] <josh__> right now special characters like ' show up as funked up characters