[00:00] <andresmh> mneptok, I think it's all apps. She has a hard time describing the problem. But from what I see on the screenshot it looks like everything is big.
[00:00] <pacific-blue> How come "places" does not show up when I right click on the panel. Only "system" and "applications" appear to be configurable. Seems stupid...
[00:00] <mneptok> andresmh: do you have another user account on the system to try?
[00:00] <dergringo> aj_444, ahh sorry my fault. You need to add the Frquency Applet to your taskbar: http://linuxundich.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gnomefrequencyapplet.png
[00:00] <andresmh> mneptok, no :(
[00:00] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: otherwise, the '\r' character has no special meaning in your shell, and will remain as literal. in your case, it stuck into the filename of a a file you created.
[00:00] <andresmh> DaZ-, I have no idea what card she has. I should have taken note when I installed the system. It's an old machine.
[00:00] <mneptok> andresmh: create one?
[00:00] <pacific-blue> And what is the name of the application that views files when you click on a folder in the "places" menu?
[00:00] <andresmh> mneptok, good idea.
[00:01] <mneptok> andresmh: then you know if it's a driver issue, or a config issue in her account
[00:01] <aj_444> dergringo: would that be in the ad/remove section?
[00:01] <laclasse> pacific-blue, nautilus
[00:01] <pacific-blue> Thanks laclasse
[00:01] <arand> pacific-blue: places are bound to nautilus (file browser) and configured from there as well, unfortunately even there configuration possibilities are rather limited
[00:01] <magical_walrus> prince_jammys, is there a way I can edit a file in windows without it adding ^M to the end of each line?
[00:01] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: and don't use that editor, else you get further headaches, unless it has an option for 'unix style line endings'
[00:02] <dergringo> aj_444, "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
[00:02] <id1000> apt-get clean/autoclean   typed at terminal did not work
[00:02] <magical_walrus> prince_jammys, I'll check for that
[00:02] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: yeah, an editor that offers that option.
[00:02] <andresmh> mneptok, I don't think it's a driver issue. I installed the machine a few months ago and it all worked fine. She has not applied any updates. But she said that the power went out and things looked bigger after that.
[00:02] <arand> id1000: either: sudo apt-get autoclean OR sudo apt-get clean
[00:02] <aj_444> dergrino: there's a kpowersave
[00:02] <lianimator> how do I send a click to the screen with x and why coordinates with a command?
[00:02] <ikla> arand, yes
[00:02] <adaptr> the power went out and her things looked bigger ? she has bad noght vision, me thinks
[00:02] <dergringo> id1000, sudo apt-get autoclean and sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[00:03] <ikla> annoying it pops up new windows
[00:03] <andresmh> I guess I could ask her to email me the content of Xorg.conf? mneptok
[00:03] <arand> id1000: use apt-get --help to see what they do.
[00:03] <pacific-blue> arand: Why does nautilus sometimes copy the file and sometimes moves the file? If I reboot the system there's a 50/50 chance the next time it will flip the action from move to copy. I'd like to somehow make it's behaviour consistent...
[00:03] <magical_walrus> prince_jammys, It has an option to "Convert to UNIX format"
[00:03] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: great. use that.
[00:03] <pacific-blue> Instead of having to press the shift key depending on its mood...
[00:03] <id1000> error -"could not lock file"
[00:04] <lianimator> pacific-blue: same partition = move, diff partition = copy.
[00:04] <CaptainCrook> how can i cd/read file to file/dir like this one "this dir has space in it" in command line ?
[00:04] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: .. for every file you intend to use in a *NIX (linux, mac osx, etc.) system.
[00:04] <arand> pacific-blue: I have no idea, afaik that is wholly dependent is you copy on one disk or between disks... otherwise it'd be a blatant bug...
[00:04] <kermit> did anyone else's hibernate stop working recently? it just reboots.
[00:05] <pacific-blue> lianimator: unfortunately within the same partition I get different results almost every time I boot
[00:05] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: basically, "anything but windows" ;)
[00:05] <magical_walrus> prince_jammys, Will do. I don't normally write scripts in windows, so this problem has never reared its head before
[00:05] <unop> CaptainCrook, cd "this dir has space in it"
[00:05] <DigitalKiwi> don't macs use a different line ending?
[00:05] <DigitalKiwi> or was that just older macs
[00:05]  * DigitalKiwi thought they used \r
[00:05] <pacific-blue> I guess I'll dig around the nautilus documentation for possible bugs on this
[00:05] <sebsebseb> kermit: How much RAM do you have?   Have you got double  the size of it as SWAP space?   They say that meant to have double  for hibernate.
[00:05] <prince_jammys> magical_walrus: it's pretty common. first thing i suspected when you described the problem.
[00:06] <CaptainCrook> unop,  and if i want to scan for mp3 in command line that have space in it?
[00:06] <DigitalKiwi> or \n\r or something
[00:06] <unop> CaptainCrook, recursively in all subdirectories or not?
[00:06] <cbeck> CaptainCrook: or escape the spaces, which is a bit more tab completion friendly: cd this\ dir\ has\ spaces
[00:06] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: today's macs use UNIX style line endings, '\n'
[00:07] <DigitalKiwi> what was it the old ones used?
[00:07] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: they used to use just '\r'
[00:07] <DigitalKiwi> anything use \n\r?
[00:07] <arand> ikla: there is an option in nautilus preferences for "always open in browser windows" have you made sure that is checked?
[00:07] <CaptainCrook> unop,  let's say everything in /music/
[00:07] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: no. windows uses \r\n
[00:07]  * DigitalKiwi knows
[00:08] <unop> CaptainCrook,  find /music -iname "* *.mp3" -type f
[00:08] <cbeck> DigitalKiwi: Which makes sense from a historical perspective, on a typewriter, you need to both drop one line, and return the carriage to the start of the page
[00:09] <DigitalKiwi> ha
[00:09] <magical_walrus> Just a bit of a random question but can I set mode +x on myself on this IRC?
[00:09] <tonyyarusso> magical_walrus: See http://freenode.net/ "using the network"
[00:09] <magical_walrus> tonyyarusso: Thanks
[00:10] <jiohdi> cbeck  cr carriage return
[00:10] <bucky> CaptainCrook, hey they but that network capability in bash on the last update
[00:10] <cbeck> I know
[00:10] <GPL> magical_walrus: just visit #freenode and ask for an unaffiliated cloak, [polite words, remember]
[00:10] <CaptainCrook> unop,  and to make them appears when i "mpg123 -Z /music/ " they all fails... any way to get around it?
[00:10] <prince_jammys> CR is the hot topic of the hour
[00:11]  * prince_jammys destroys all CRs on sight, with a flamethrower.
[00:11] <unop> CaptainCrook,  find /music -iname "* *.mp3" -type f -exec mpg123 -Z {} +  #perhaps
[00:11] <cbeck> I usually just use dos2unix, but a flamethrower would probably be effective
[00:11] <green_bowl> Hi
[00:11] <id1000> did "sudo apt-get autoremove" get error "dpgk was interrupted, you must manally run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem"
[00:11] <unop> CaptainCrook, failing that, this ought to do.   find /music -iname "* *.mp3" -type f -exec mpg123 -Z {} \;
[00:11] <green_bowl> I use the 9.10 Karmic Koala, and recently updated... however after my restart I had NO SOUND
[00:12] <bucky> CaptainCrook, hey they but that network capability in bash on the last update  you can try it out with this code http://paste.ubuntu.com/260102/
[00:12] <green_bowl> ... and still don't
[00:12] <IdleOne> id1000: so run the dpkg command given to you
[00:12] <prince_jammys> id1000: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[00:12] <DigitalKiwi> how did the networking standard of things being ended with \n\r come about? because of windows or for similiar reasons as windows?
[00:12] <id1000> i did
[00:12] <prince_jammys> id1000: if not, do.
[00:12] <id1000> duh
[00:12] <green_bowl> I uninstalled pulseaudio and installed esound, and I got sound back - but the volume/sound control was gone
[00:12] <green_bowl> So I reinstalled pulseaudio - and my sound was once again GONE
[00:12] <IdleOne> duh?
[00:12] <prince_jammys> id1000: heh, you'd be surprised at how many come here and don't.
[00:12] <jiohdi> green, lately I have found that my boots set my volume to zero... I go into aumix and fix it
[00:12] <green_bowl> I've checked that
[00:12] <arand> unop: #ubuntu+1 and afaik, it's a common issue
[00:13] <green_bowl> I can put it on full blast and nothing comes out
[00:13] <CaptainCrook> bucky, interesting...
[00:13] <unop> arand, sorry?
[00:13] <green_bowl> Everything's connected right, the volumes are up, everything... except pulseaudio is about to make me have an aneurysm
[00:13] <kermit> maybe my hibernate isnt working because i dont see a resume= boot parameter?
[00:13] <adaptr> jiohdi: use alsamixer to set them and save the settings; also make sure alsamixer is run on startup
[00:13] <andresmh> how do I refresh the X11 settings on a machine?
[00:14] <jiohdi> adaptr, I am using xfce and I dont see alsamixer
[00:14] <sim_> Can i use virtualbox to boot my vista partition ???
[00:14] <bucky> CaptainCrook, did you have something to do with that?
[00:14] <adaptr> jiohdi: it's a commandline program
[00:14] <green_bowl> Can anyone help?
[00:14] <kermit> sim_: i couldnt get that to work
[00:14] <andresmh> I have the feeling my mom messed up her screen resolution settings  and I'd like to reset things to the way they were
[00:14] <bucky> CaptainCrook, now i know how to light a fire under the developer's butt
[00:14] <arand> !karmic | unop
[00:14] <bucky> just say it can't be done
[00:14] <green_bowl> Seems like for everything the updates fix, two more things break
[00:14] <sim_> kermit: damn :/
[00:14] <unop> arand, I believe you have me mistaken for someone else
[00:15] <CaptainCrook> bucky hehehe
[00:15] <sim_> kermit: i dnt really see anyother use for VB then..unless ur a dev
[00:15] <kermit> sim_: i got it to TRY but it'd always stop at the same place
[00:15] <green_bowl> Pulseaudio isn't working... I need help
[00:15] <cbeck> Has anyone had issues using evince to read files on local network shares? ATM it loads the file, then hangs at 100%, except when it just quits immediately.
[00:15] <sim_> kermit: does it work for some ?
[00:15] <ikla> arand, I dont see that option
[00:15] <kermit> sim_: i use it to run tax software for windows, the only thing i ever do that i cant do in linux.
[00:15] <CaptainCrook> unop,  thanks a lot it works now!
[00:15] <carl__> green go back to xp that is what i going to do.     with xp at least wireless worked on my msi u100 and was not lose my connection left and right   even tried  wicd and still
[00:15] <green_bowl> I don't have Windows.
[00:16] <green_bowl> All I have is Ubuntu and it has done a massive amount of failing lately
[00:16] <sim_> kermit: you mean u used to use it with xp ?
[00:16] <kermit> sim_: yeah, but it should run vista too
[00:16] <arand> ikla: nautilus preferences, "behaviour" tab
[00:16] <sim_> kermit: is it a straight forward procedure ?
[00:16] <green_bowl> Did anyone else update 9.10 and lose sound?
[00:16] <kermit> sim_: yeah
[00:16] <carl__> that is why i am thinking of putting xp back on my   msi u100  what is the use of having a netbook without wireless working all the time
[00:16] <green_bowl> Pulseaudio doesn't work at all
[00:17] <IdleOne> green_bowl: #ubuntu+1 for help with 9.10
[00:17] <green_bowl> I guess I'll reinstall gay esound for the time being
[00:17] <green_bowl> Ok
[00:17] <inanimate> Anyone know how to mount a drive as a user from the command line?
[00:17] <sim_> kermit: kool, because i wanted to use vista to dl stuff via newsgroups and then access them on linux
[00:17] <carl__> i have sound with    using pcm
[00:17] <sim_> kermit: thanks :)
[00:17] <cbeck> inanimate: the driver needs to have user flag in fstab
[00:17] <id1000> Thxs seed to work but now i have only 200mb free instead on 400mbs, guess the updates have a larger footprint
[00:17] <cbeck> err, s/driver/drive/
[00:18] <inanimate> cbeck: Hmm... So if it's not in fstab, then there's no way to mount it without being root?
[00:18] <sim_> damn does anyone know of a good/main repo which keeps a broad variety of the main programs up to date
[00:18] <sim_> ?
[00:18] <bucky> carl__, try mint 7  they made a bunch of wireless tweaks that usually work out of the box almost 100%
[00:18] <tonyyarusso> sim_: backports is the semi-official place to start
[00:19] <kermit> which hibernate method does ubuntu use?  so i know where to start fixing it.. it worked a few days ago.
[00:19] <sim_> tonyyarusso: shall i enable backports then
[00:19] <tonyyarusso> sim_: PPAs of different packages is the next step
[00:19] <id1000> checked update manager says there is another 314mbs in updates to download - crap
[00:19] <carl__> thx bucky
[00:19] <sim_> tonyyarusso: adding ppa for a single package its pathetic
[00:19] <tonyyarusso> sim_: If you're willing to take that chance of losing the supported packages, yes
[00:19] <tonyyarusso> sim_: If you want things to be frequently broken, you could run Karmic.
[00:19] <sim_> tonyyarusso: why would you lose the supported packages
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> sim_: Because you'd have new ones installed instead
[00:20] <sim_> why cant they keep the community one updated
[00:20] <sim_> i jus checked and vbox is way outdated
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> sim_: Because we use time-based releases, not rolling ones?
[00:21] <DigitalKiwi> if you want constantly updated packages ubuntu, or any time-based release, probably isn't for you
[00:21] <sim_> tonyyarusso: ah i see
[00:21] <BaRs> oo
[00:21] <BaRs> hello
[00:22] <BaRs> lan oruspu copcuklarý :D
[00:22] <BaRs> ananýzý s2m :D
[00:22] <CaptainCrook> unop,  however only one song seem to get thru and it play like 7 time at the time... can't seem to stop it...
[00:23] <cbeck> inanimate: There are ways to make unknown drives user mountable, but they all require superuser privileges to set up
[00:23] <DigitalKiwi> sim_: are you interested in distributions with always up to date packages?
[00:23] <sim_> DigitalKiwi: yep why not :)
[00:24] <unop> CaptainCrook, hmm, yea - gimme a sec.
[00:24] <isleshocky77> What's the best way to install rails 2.2.2 on ubuntu 7.04?
[00:24] <inanimate> cbeck: Right. And I think automout may have been removed, so I guess I'm out of luck then.
[00:25] <inanimate> cbeck: There's no way fuse could help this?
[00:26] <sebsebseb> !7.04 |  isleshocky77
[00:26] <sim_> for vbox do i need virtualgtk too ??
[00:26] <isleshocky77> sebsebseb: ??
[00:26] <sebsebseb> !eol |  isleshocky77
[00:26] <sim_> !virtualbox
[00:27] <sebsebseb> isleshocky77: Ubuntu 7.04 is no longer supported
[00:27] <unop> CaptainCrook, this is a bit length but try it out.    unset mp3; while read -r -d '' file; do mp3+=( "$file" ); done < <(find /music -iname "* *.mp3" -type f); mpg123 "${mp3[@]}"
[00:27] <isleshocky77> sebsebseb: Company server which I don't have control over upgrading..
[00:27] <isleshocky77> sebsebseb: sadly.. :-/
[00:27] <sebsebseb> isleshocky77: well  whoever does,   should upgrade to 8.04 really,   but do they know,  is the thing
[00:27] <IdleOne> isleshocky77: then inform whoever does about it
[00:28] <isleshocky77> sebsebseb: IdleOne: thanks.. lol
[00:28] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: maybe give them this link:
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  IdleOne
[00:28] <unop> CaptainCrook, i'm off for now, if you have any problems - /join #bash  and ask there
[00:28] <IdleOne> isleshocky77: ^^^^
[00:29] <CaptainCrook> unop,  this is gonna make me crazy... can't stop it...
[00:29] <sim_> guys guys...ive read sum things about "archlinux"...whats that all about - it looks promising
[00:30] <IdleOne> sim_: check the website and ask them :)
[00:30] <DigitalKiwi> #archlinux
[00:32] <sebsebseb> isleshocky77: server  version   maybe  stopped being supported April this year,   since three years support,  but  that doesn't matter,  time to upgrade really
[00:34] <sebsebseb> sim_: it's a distro  that is quite a lot difficulter to use than Ubuntu,   with new packages, pretty much straight away after release.  http://www.distrowatch.com to find out about  distros and  ##linux is the general Linux channal
[00:34] <zaid> hey guys
[00:36] <sim_> sebsebseb: cheersss
[00:37] <Polycarbonate> how do i continue downloading a file in wget. ( the file has been saved with -O /media/hda3/slackware option)
[00:37] <arand> Polycarbonate: I think the -c flag might do that.
[00:38] <GSF1200S> anyone know of a metacity theme that integrates the titlebar buttons into the menu bar, or is that even possible?
[00:38] <Polycarbonate> will it remember the path i saved before? because im using a live cd
[00:38] <CaptainCrook> damn... i've uninstalled mpg123 ... it still play!!!
[00:38] <Polycarbonate> are there any option i need to add
[00:39] <GSF1200S> CaptainCrook: sudo killall mpg123
[00:39] <arand> Polycarbonate: you might have to specify it again... (I've only vaguely heard about it, don't trust this for facts)
[00:39] <Stormx2``> Polycarbonate, $ wget --help | grep resume
[00:39] <Stormx2``>   -c,  --continue                resume getting a partially-downloaded file.
[00:40] <GSF1200S> CaptainCrook: its because apt removed the app from the disk, but its still loaded in ram
[00:40] <CaptainCrook> GSF1200S,  ohhhh! thanks a lot!
[00:40] <GSF1200S> CaptainCrook: np
[00:40] <Polycarbonate> so i have to add the same    -O /path     option ?
[00:40] <LnxSlck> does update-manager stops when clicking update to 9.10 ?
[00:41] <LnxSlck> for anyone?
[00:41] <GSF1200S> anyone know of a metacity theme that integrates the titlebar buttons into the menu bar, or is that even possible? 2nd and last time ill ask.. not trying to spam
[00:41] <trism> Polycarbonate: Yeah you probably have to use the same -O option with -c because otherwise wget won't know where to look
[00:42] <Polycarbonate> ok i got it thank you very much :)
[00:42] <apraxas> http://linux.com/fakelinustorvalds
[00:43] <GPL> is there something available, which can serve a replacement for System Notification Tray ?
[00:47] <wANd_> Hello all, I'm using an ubuntu-based distro (XBMC) but their default loading of ATI graphics driver is giving me this garbled screen:  http://i32.tinypic.com/euk7dx.jpg  Does anyone know why this would be happening?  Is it trying the wrong resolution or something?  Second of all, I can start in safe mode but there is no xorg.conf.  How can I set one up, is there a config program?  Thanks!
[00:49] <DigitalKiwi> 18:48 -alis(alis@services.)- #xbmc-linux                                        104 : Official XBMC for Linux Channel | http://xbmc.org | Don't PM  staff!
[00:50] <ubuntu> hey
[00:50] <Out_Cold> where can i find the "kernal source tree" files?
[00:51] <Out_Cold> any particular names?
[00:53] <icarus> when using banshee media player to play music from my ipod a orange  icon with a lock on it appears next to mile files . none of these file will play
[00:53] <icarus> wusic
[00:53] <icarus> .music
[00:53] <FrozenFire[work]> Quick question: Has anyone developed a little pamphlet that can be printed off, with basic information about Ubuntu, to be given to the average Windows user?
[00:54] <ZoeyMarie> can anyone tell me how to change the volume of PCM using my master volume controls (and why I can't find any documentation that tells me how to do this)? :(
[00:54] <Out_Cold> FrozenFire[work], i used to refer people to whylinuxisbetter.net but not sure if that site is still active
[00:54] <icarus> it is
[00:54] <FrozenFire[work]> I often have people come to my resort who ask for help with their computer, complaining about something to do with Windows. I often mention Ubuntu in those cases, but am always scrambling for URLs and basic "marketing" information
[00:54] <GPL> is there something available, which can serve a replacement for System Notification Tray ?
[00:55] <Out_Cold> ZoeyMarie, you can use alsamixer or gnome-alsamixer
[00:55] <FrozenFire[work]> The big things I'd like are information on _why_ Ubuntu rocks, where to get it, and information on Wubi/trying Ubuntu
[00:55] <Out_Cold> could always make one... and forward it to the ubuntu team
[00:56] <FrozenFire[work]> I might do so, though I'd worry about copyright infringement (I know Canonical is fairly lenient in that regard, but you can never be too careful)
[00:56] <icarus> when trying to play music from my ipod on ubuntu none of the files will play
[00:56] <Polycarbonate> :)
[00:56] <Out_Cold> FrozenFire[work], i doubt you will have any worries
[00:57] <Out_Cold> icarus, make sure you have ubuntu-restricted-modules installed
[00:57] <trelayne> hi all, a little mystery. I've successfully gotten two laptops running ubuntu to talk to one another by creating an mesh AP on one and then connecting the other one to it... BUT, I can't ping from the client to the AP unless I have wireshark running on the client.... go figure.. anyone know why that might be?
[00:57] <icarus> Out_Cold, ok
[00:58] <oboxodo> hi there. I'm searching for an alternative syslog package that would allow me to have separate config files like for example in syslog.d/* any suggested package?
[00:59] <adaptr> syslog has that - why do you need an alternative ?
[00:59] <timbojimbo> yo my buddy's dell demension i just installed ubuntu and it isn't getting on the recognizing the onboard ethernet card. any help??
[00:59] <oboxodo> syslog has that?! can't find any reference to that in the man or google. :(
[00:59] <adaptr> oboxodo: you just said it did
[01:00] <adaptr> try syslog-ng
[01:00] <adaptr> it's tehnew
[01:00] <mac_attack09> **incomming reconnect, please stand by for IRC client restart**
[01:01] <oboxodo> adaptr: I didn't say it did. I said I'm looking for an alternative that would have that possibility. AFAIK, normal syslog and rsyslog both depend on a unique unified syslog.conf file. I need to be able to separate config in different files.
[01:02] <adaptr> [2009-08-27 02:00] <adaptr> try syslog-ng
[01:02] <ZoeyMarie> how do I make it so that "Master Volume" in Volume Control controls PCM?
[01:04] <saif> hi ,i cant run my yahoo account on pidgin
[01:04] <saif> any ideas ??
[01:05] <timbojimbo> yo my buddy's dell demension i just installed ubuntu and it isn't getting on the recognizing the onboard ethernet card. any help??
[01:05] <saif> any1 ???!!
[01:05] <xps9000> saif: The login... Are you doing it @yahoo.com or just the username?
[01:05] <saif> tried both
[01:05] <timbojimbo> saif: mess around with it i have gotten it to work
[01:05] <CatEater> what's the best vm to run ubuntu on? i have a windows xp host and my vbox window doesn't show up
[01:05] <saif> the hotmail is ok
[01:05] <CatEater> anyone know a confirmed working vm setup?
[01:05] <trelayne> anyone know what I need to install to use MASQUERADE in iptables?
 i did alot of experements before i ask this question
[01:06] <xps9000> saif: Hmm, have you tried to just connect the yahoo, without the hotmail account running?
[01:06] <saif> yes
[01:06] <icarus> Out_
[01:06] <saif> and i tried gychi too
[01:06] <saif> no use
[01:06] <icarus> Out_
[01:07] <xps9000> Let me ask you this... Have you tried yahoo's web messenger to login to the account?
[01:07] <icarus> outcold
[01:07] <xps9000> Then try logging in with pig
[01:07] <xps9000> pid*
[01:07] <DaZ-> trelayne, imo just iptables :f
[01:07] <saif> no
[01:07] <oboxodo> adaptr: just read syslog-ng's docs. No reference to a way to split config in more than one file
[01:07] <ZoeyMarie> how do I make it so that "Master Volume" in Volume Control controls PCM?
[01:07] <saif> but i can login from the website
[01:07] <trelayne> DaZ-, thanks but when I do iptable -L  i don't see the masquerade entry
[01:08] <ultra> hi i am trying to help a friend, he has ubuntu x86 and his refresh rate wont go above 60hz
[01:08] <ultra> i had him send me his xorg.conf and it is practically empty
[01:08] <xps9000> Saif: Try running the web messenger here: webmessenger.yahoo.com
[01:08] <ultra> he has nv 9400gt 512mb adapter
[01:08] <DaZ-> trelayne, add it? :f
[01:08] <saif> xps9000 : 1min
[01:09] <ultra> and a philips 109b crt that can handle 1920x1440x32bpp@60hz, but we really want to allow 1024x768 to run at 120hz
[01:09] <ultra> is there some kind of easy to use configure screen to help him get a proper xorg.conf
[01:09] <trelayne> DaZ-, I mean if I do:  iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE   ,  I don't see anything about masquerade when I do iptable -L
[01:10] <johny000000> ultra: What is his video card?
[01:10] <lovegrows> HAM
[01:10] <DaZ-> trelayne, me too, so it means you're doing it wrong
[01:10] <DaZ-> unfortunately i suck at iptables [;
[01:11] <trelayne> DaZ-,  ok... will have to take a closer look at my sources :-)
[01:11] <bucky> ultra, System=>Preferences=>Display ?
[01:11] <bucky> ultra, 120 is prolly too high
[01:11] <PRO-DRIVE> hello guys :) what is that error mean ??      This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.
[01:11] <bucky> PRO-DRIVE, did you sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f  ?
[01:12] <stealth-> how can I tell how much ram I have?
[01:12] <PRO-DRIVE> bucky: yup !
[01:12] <trelayne> DaZ-,  no problem, thanks though
[01:12] <DaZ-> stealth-, free -m ? :f
[01:12] <xps9000> free -m, stealth-
[01:12] <xps9000> aye
[01:12] <xps9000> Beat me to it
[01:12] <xps9000> lol
[01:12] <DaZ-> \o/
[01:12] <FloodBot2> xps9000: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <johny000000> PRO-DRIVE: Your sources.list is messed up. It happened to me on 8.10
[01:12] <xps9000> lol, automated bots ftl.
[01:13] <stealth-> xps9000: thanks
[01:13] <ultra> video adapter: geforce 9400gt 512mb
[01:13] <ultra> believe he said he has the 180 series nvidia drivers installed
[01:13] <PRO-DRIVE>  johny000000: so do you have any idea how to fix it ?
[01:13] <rww> xps9000: Using the Enter key repeatedly ftl.
[01:13] <xps9000> stealth-: Daz- beat me to it <.< Thank him
[01:13] <johny000000> ultra: does he have the right driver?
[01:13] <xps9000> rww: A threshold of two characters is rather extreme
[01:13] <ultra> not sure , i am only ssh'd in
[01:13] <stealth-> heh, thanks DaZ- :P
[01:14] <stealth-> didnt see it originally, sorry bout that
[01:14] <ultra> how do people usually do refresh rate overides in linux
[01:14] <bucky> ultra, what does glxinfo say
[01:14] <bucky> ultra nvidia-xconfig
[01:14] <ultra> um when i type it from ssh i get warhell@warhell-desktop:/etc/X11$ glxinfo
[01:14] <ultra> Error: unable to open display
[01:15] <ultra> should He run that?
[01:15] <johny000000> PRO-DRIVE: Rename sources.list to sources.list.old and run apt-get update
[01:16] <johny000000> ultra: open the nvidia terminal and you should be able to adjust the resolution if the driver permits it
[01:16] <PRO-DRIVE>  johny000000: thx for help :) i will try :)
[01:16] <ultra> yea
[01:16] <binarymutant> what's the ubuntu council's irc channel?
[01:16] <ultra> his xorg.conf is boned
[01:17] <ultra> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[01:17] <ultra>                   Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver
[01:17] <ultra>                   line.
[01:17] <ultra> results from nvidia-xconfig
[01:18] <grody> well, erm, you only need to add either nv or nvidia into the driver variable
[01:18] <johny000000> I would try running 'fixvesa' with the xserver down and then reinstall the driver
[01:19] <Schmitty> how can i mount a floppy disc in terminal?
[01:20] <JoeSomebody> hello, i am new to ubuntu (or any linux) got years of windows and other stuff, can somone point me at a real good internet site (or whatever) to learn the basic stuff about running and installing ubuntu programs?
[01:20] <JoeSomebody> pretty impressed so far btw :)
[01:20] <sebsebseb> !new |  JoeSomebody
[01:20] <Flannel> !synaptic | JoeSomebody
[01:20] <darlside420genec> schmitty sudo mount /dev/fd0 /directory name
[01:21] <sebsebseb> !apt |  JoeSomebody
[01:21] <darlside420genec> schmitty your can do a ls /dev/fd* to ensure that is correct
[01:21] <JoeSomebody> nice, thanks
[01:21] <DaZ-> i hate this bot :f
[01:21] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: so  yep you can install graphically or using commands
[01:22] <johny000000> JoeSomebody: Try man 'command' with every program you need info for. it is pretty easy and informative
[01:22] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: I  suggest giving synaptic a good browse, since your new, and trying   things that you want to
[01:22] <Schmitty> darlside420genec: this worked :) Why do I have to specify a filesystem for cd's but nor for floppys?
[01:23] <JoeSomebody> most must go grapically i presume?
[01:23] <mdg> Does anyone know if audio playback can be controlled with a foot pedal?
[01:23] <JoeSomebody> i did 1 thing in synaptic, was straight-forward
[01:25] <mdg> Does anyone know if audio playback can be controlled with something other than keyboard/mouse?
[01:25] <Schmitty> darlside420genec: it says mount point /media/fd0/ does not exist
[01:25] <JoeSomebody> i didnt expect the install to b even easier than windows, nice goin whoever :)
[01:26] <darlside420genec> i'm not 100 percent sure since sometimes you do need to specify
[01:26] <mdg> JoeSomebody: first time installing Linux?
[01:26] <JoeSomebody> yes
[01:26] <darlside420genec> usually mac Os needs vfat iso9660 etc
[01:26] <mdg> JoeSomebody: did you try the live cd first?
[01:26] <JoeSomebody> and i just went for it, didnt read a thing :)
[01:27] <JoeSomebody> i downloaded ubuntu 9.04 desktop, burned and installed it
[01:27] <Schmitty> but why does it say /mount/fd0 doesn't exist? i know it doesn't exist! it's supoosed to create it
[01:27] <mdg> JoeSomebody: make sure you add the medibuntu repos and also let everything update for a much much better experience
[01:28] <JoeSomebody> ok will check that out
[01:28] <mdg> JoeSomebody: welcome to Linux!
[01:28] <darlside420genec> schmitty: type mount to display your current mounts and where they are mounted in your filesystem
[01:29] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | JoeSomebody
[01:29] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: that's a good idea to make sure your download is good, if you stil have the ISO, you can still do it
[01:29] <JoeSomebody> as a respected windows tech in my area i can convert many over once i get to where i need to be :)
[01:30] <rahmu> hey guys i need help. The sound has gone off. I'm using Jaunty (Xfce). Any ideas what to do?
[01:30] <mdg> JoeSomebody: what made you go linux?
[01:30] <JoeSomebody> i need to learn a lot, to be able to help others
[01:30] <jiohdi> rahmu, happened to me just recently... try aumix
[01:30] <rahmu> aumix ?
[01:30] <jiohdi> rahmu, I found all setting had been turned to zero
[01:31] <rhlin99> question:  how do i edit a config file?  I get an error stated that i dont have permission.
[01:31] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody  mdg   I can see this turning into interesting offtopic, but still offtopic,  so  #ubuntu-offtopic  would be better
[01:31] <JoeSomebody> well MS has made such a mes of the pc industry, (vista & windows7) i had to finally commit the time to come over here
[01:31] <jiohdi> rahmu, you will find it under multimedia
[01:31] <sebsebseb> !ot |  JoeSomebody
[01:31] <IdleOne> rhlin99: gksudo gedit
[01:32] <rahmu> yeah i just did. Levels were fine though ...
[01:32] <JoeSomebody> i know linux works much better and faster
[01:32] <jiohdi> rahmu, sorry, must be a different problem
[01:32] <rhlin99> Idleone:  do I have to be in terminal and it the etc directory?
[01:32] <rahmu> yep.thx anyway
[01:32] <mdg> JoeSomebody: ClI commands will get you there fast
[01:32] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: welcome to the channal yeah,   but  the ops  and  people like that,  aren't to keen on  off topic here, hence the suggestion to  move to the other channal
[01:33] <aj_444> My computer doesn't shut down when running ubuntu, does anybody know how to solve this?
[01:33] <JoeSomebody> understandable
[01:33] <IdleOne> rhlin99: you can hit alt F2 and type gksudo nautilus then navigate to the file and open it.
[01:33] <rahmu> rhlin99: no just hit alt+F2, gksudo gedit and the path to the file
[01:33] <mdg> JoeSomebody: you know about synaptic to install software?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: synaptic hmm
[01:34] <JoeSomebody> wel i only used it once, so not really
[01:34] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: you know  the command prompt in Windows? sure you do?
[01:34] <JoeSomebody> yes, i go back to dos
[01:34] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: well  the   terminal/konsole/shell    is way better in Linux/Unix
[01:35] <maco> JoeSomebody: its what powershell was modeled after, if that's any reference
[01:35] <sabot> How do you use find to print absolute paths instead of relative paths?
[01:35] <mdg> JoeSomebody: dpk -l will list all installed apps
[01:35] <JoeSomebody> i wrote apps and delivered them on dos /novell lans in early 90's
[01:35] <IdleOne> dpkg -l
[01:35] <fabiosl> Anybody with ATI VideoCard?
[01:35] <mdg> JoeSomebody: apt-cache search <name of app> will let you search for apps
[01:35] <JoeSomebody> but i am not a coder for many years now
[01:35] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: synaptic  can be useful sure,  but it's  just a gui  for the shell/terminal  and so
[01:36] <sebsebseb> !terminal |  JoeSomebody
[01:36] <mdg> JoeSomebody: apt-cache show <name of app> will tell you about the apps
[01:36] <Lord_Devi> you guys are all answering questions that haven't been asked yet :p
[01:36] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: sudo apt-get install program             sudo apt-get   purge program  will remove it with config files,  and  you can do  sudo apt-get remove on it's own as well,   thousands of programs available to instal just like that from the repos
[01:36] <sebsebseb> !repos | JoeSomebody
[01:37] <JoeSomebody> i am copying/logging this stuff for later of course
[01:38] <rhlin99> idelone:  when dyndns create a block for the config file do I delete the one already created by default?
[01:38] <mdg> JoeSomebody: what app you using for IRC?
[01:39] <Guest40325>  hi, I bought a technika mp3 player but when I plug it in, ubuntu does not see it, its charging but Its not seeing it, any ideas????
[01:40] <mralexandro> i can not seem to get emerald to be primary theme
[01:40] <mdg> Guest40325: is it microsoft based?
[01:40] <JoeSomebody> i used xchat on that, i am on 4 pc here on a switcxhbox, this one is xp/mirc
[01:40] <Guest40325> I have no idea, just a cheap one from tesco, can't see any Msoft logo's
[01:40] <rhlin99> when dyndns create a block for the config file do I delete the one already created by default?
[01:41] <JoeSomebody> i would like a good linux irc client that has loads of features , i am spoiled a bit there
[01:41] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: Konversation is  nice as a graphical app,  KDE though.  and IRSSI  after configuring can be pretty good in the terminal, and people tend to use screen with that
[01:41] <mdg> Guest40325: if its not seen as a "USB" device it is probably MTP based
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !kde |  JoeSomebody
[01:41] <rhlin99> rahmu: when dyndns create a block for the config file do I delete the one already created by default?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !gnome |  JoeSomebody
[01:41] <mdg> Guest40325: install Gnomad2 through Synaptic, or setup Rhythmbox or Amarok for MTP
[01:41] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: KDE apps can be run in Gnome, and Gnome apps can be run in KDE,  most of them, not all of them
[01:42] <exapid> Joe you can download PlayOnLinux and install mirc if your use to it, works really well
[01:42] <JoeSomebody> wow lots of info, i'm gonna be busy :)
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !irc >  JoeSomebody
[01:42] <Guest40325> ok thanks, il give that a go
[01:42] <exapid> still recommend you use a native irc client XD
[01:42] <RonWhoCares> Where are the directions to configure the network card?
[01:42] <RonWhoCares> for high speed internet
[01:42] <sebsebseb> exapid: well obviously, but xchat is
[01:42] <mdg> JoeSomebody: irssi is the way to go for IRC
[01:42] <sebsebseb> exapid: or you meant  for KDE Gnome,  when running in the other one?
[01:43] <darlside420genec> RonWhoCares /etc/network/interfaces
[01:43] <BioVore> JoeSomebody: kvirc and xchat are failry feature ritch.
[01:43] <Lord_Devi> JoeSomebody: If you're a feature whore, try kvirc from kde's desktop for irc.
[01:43] <exapid> Doesnt matter what GUI you use
[01:43] <Stronze> i installed festival via package manger but it didnt add a shortcut to the drop menu and i cant figure out how to get a shortcut in the menu
[01:43] <exapid> PlayOnLinux is virtually wine
[01:43] <darlside420genec> RonWhoCares many configuration file for initalizing your network card dhcp or static
[01:44] <RonWhoCares> Is there a web page that shows it
[01:44] <RonWhoCares> how to do it
[01:44] <rahmu> rhlin99: sorry i really dont know
[01:44] <sebsebseb> !wine >  JoeSomebody
[01:45] <Stronze> i installed festival via package manger but it didnt add a shortcut to the drop menu and i cant figure out how to get a shortcut in the menu
[01:45] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox > JoeSomebody
[01:45] <JoeSomebody> in case y'all havent been thanked lately - I 4 1 appreciate you helpers :)
[01:45] <thiebaude> !dualboot
[01:46] <mdg> Stronze: I think ou can add it to the menu via editing the main menu via control center
[01:46] <mdg> ou/you
[01:46] <Stronze> how i access that?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> exapid: JoeSomebody yep this  is a good way to do it for an app when it comes to Linux,  native Linux app,   then  if  there isn't one  that is good enough Wine, no luck there,    Windows virtual machine
[01:47] <mdg> Stronze: menu button > Preferences
[01:47] <JoeSomebody> can ubuntu access all my ntfs stuff on the netowrk without issues? my shares seem to be there for the browsing ...
[01:47] <lotus> hey, is it possible to automount sshfs at startup if you have to use a password to login?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !samba |  JoeSomebody
[01:47] <mdg> Stronze: menu button > System >Preferences > Main menu
[01:47] <JoeSomebody> wine works fine?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: depends on the program
[01:48] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: a lot of programs work rather well  just like that these days,  but others need configuring,  and  others won't work at all  yet
[01:48] <s0u1t> what's the best way to network period for ubuntu?
[01:48] <JoeSomebody> wow, people never get this much help in "other channels"
[01:48] <aj_444> Ubuntu doesn't shut down properly. Does anybody have a solution?
[01:49] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: I am not sure if they   get it normalley here either,  and it seems to be me doing it mainly now so :)
[01:49] <mdg> aj_444: what seems to be the problem?
[01:49] <JoeSomebody> wel thanks a pile
[01:50] <Stronze> mdg - can fidn the program festival
[01:50] <mdg> JoeSomebody: don't forget to add Medibuntu repos and update before you start playing
[01:50] <aj_444> mdg: I'm dual booting xp and UNR 9.10. When  I shut down XP, the system will turn off. Ubuntu, however, gets stuck at this black screen with one flashing - up in the left hand corner
[01:50] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: your  a  Windows  tech going Linux,   well  I am  someone that would like to be a  Linux tech :)   and not just servers and stuff like that, but right problem,   Windows still dominates on the consumer/homeuser/businessuer?   desktop,  but the times are changing so :)
[01:50] <m0r0n> Hey, is there a program where I can monitor my CPU/System temperature, and useage?
[01:50] <nation> hey peoplez
[01:50] <mdg> Stronze: you can add the entry in the menu where you want to
[01:51] <mdg> aj_444: how much time do you give it?
[01:51] <nation> can someone help me with  a firestarter issue
[01:51] <aj_444> mdg: Admittedly, not that long. I gave it around ten seconds, shut the thing, and walked away. apparently, my computer goes into hibernate when it shuts.
[01:51] <s0u1t> gnome system monitor works for those sort of things but not temperature
[01:52] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: you don't really need medibuntu
[01:52] <mdg> aj_444: give it a good 30 seconds - not that it takes mine that long
[01:52] <m0r0n> s0u1t: Anything that does for temperature?
[01:52] <pappanz> hello. I absolutely need some help. Do anyone know how to import claws mail directly from program folders?
[01:52] <JoeSomebody> ok looking thAt one up ...
[01:52] <aj_444> mdg: I'll try that. I'll be back if that doesn't work.
[01:52] <Stronze> mdg - cant find the damn program :/
[01:53] <arand> aj_444: if you change the /boot/grub/menu.lst entry for your kernel, removing quiet and splash, what is the last thing it says before shutdown (you'll have to reboot with those options), also, are you using any other boot parameters like acpi=off ?
[01:53] <mdg> Stronze: in the console type "whereis festival" and see what it returns
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !codecs |  JoeSomebody
[01:53] <mdg> Stronze: probably in /usr/bin
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu >  JoeSomebody
[01:53] <JoeSomebody> k
[01:53] <aj_444> arand: I'm not that tech literate. I have no idea what you just said.
[01:54] <s0u1t> m0r0n: not sure, never needed to look
[01:54] <pappanz> I've got claws-mail folders from a linux backup and now I have to restore them into claws for windows...
[01:54] <sebsebseb> arand:   aj_444    there's also a graphical program called startup manager, which can help  with  editing  the  Grub bootloader
[01:55] <mdg> Stronze: any luck?
[01:55] <Stronze> mdg - yeah its in menu and linked to the program and i replaced it where i want it.but it wont load
[01:56] <mdg> Stronze: did you add it as a new item or a new menu item?
[01:56] <mralexandro> can anyone who have some knowledge about emerald plz look at this link and tell me how to get those transparent effects inside the folders?
[01:56] <mralexandro> http://www.compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/Black+Crystal+y?content=101121
[01:56] <s0u1t> m0r0n: www.bradtrupp.com/ubuntu-cpu-temperature.html
[01:56] <s0u1t> that seems to have some insight
[01:56] <Stronze> mdg - let me check
[01:57] <miketosh> HELP! Just upgraded to 9.04, and the panel icons keep disappearing (until I hover, sometimes I need to click) and my fonts are blurry, and after a while become blacked out
[01:57] <maco> mralexandro: emerald is not really recommended....upstream's ignoring it in hopes of it going away
[01:57] <maco> mralexandro: the default window decorator for compiz, gtk-window-decorator, is more stable
[01:57] <miketosh> I did a fresh install and got the same problem
[01:57] <mralexandro> maco,  alright, so i should rather use gtk themes then?
[01:57] <mdg> Stronze: first, how do you start festival?
[01:58] <Tonisius> without an emergency disk, or another linux partition to load, how can I force a kernel to load up the filesystem in RW mode.  Currently the fstab has some invalid options, and I can't edit it due to the fact that it defaults the system into RO mode.
[01:58] <Lars_G> hi again
[01:58] <Lars_G> run
[01:58] <mdg> Stronze: I don't have it - do you just type "festival"
[01:58] <mralexandro> maco, is there a configurator for those themes except the normal appearence tab?
[01:58] <maco> mralexandro: compiz can use metacity themes just fine. and itll probably insert semi-transparency automatically
[01:58] <m0r0n> s0u1t: How do I install a program using make, I tried... cd ~/Desktop/lm_sensors-3.1.1; make clean; make; sudo make install;  It completes a task for sudo make install, but I don't see it anywhere
[01:58] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: this is  normalley recommended around here as well  http://www.ubutupocketguide.com  and this site is good for finding out about distros http://www.distrowatch.com  and I think you have enough links now to get started pretty nicely,  good luck with that, altough the learning curve doesn't tend to be that steep with Ubuntu
[01:58] <Stronze> mdg - i dont know.i just got it
[01:59] <thiebaude> JoeSomebody: pocket guide is excellent
[01:59] <s0u1t> sudo apt-get install xsensors
[01:59] <sebsebseb> JoeSomebody: hmm   link  I gave had a typeo  http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[01:59] <mdg> Stronze: try typing "festival" in a console and see if it starts
[01:59] <miketosh> help, jackalope's gnome isn't working
[01:59] <s0u1t> I think
[01:59] <s0u1t> one sec
[01:59] <maco> mralexandro: that's the only way i know besides editing the theme yourself... but i dont use a normal window manager, so i dont know if a tool for creating metacity themes has been created
[01:59] <Lars_G> something's... wrong... I have jaunty the netbook edition, the apt sources seem to be the normal jaunty ones, but there are what I consider "basic" packages missing from the repos, and I have it all, main, universe and multiverse (and partner)
[01:59] <Lars_G> stuff like mc, a full vim, etc
[01:59] <mralexandro> maco, what window manager do you use ?
[01:59] <maco> mralexandro: xmonad
[02:00] <mdg> Stronze: once we know how it starts, we get the correct command in the launcher window
[02:00] <JoeSomebody> right on, you guys rock
[02:00] <mralexandro> maco and that is more stable than metacity and emerald?
[02:00] <maco> mralexandro: its a completely different workflow
[02:00] <Stronze> For details type `(festival_warranty)'
[02:00] <Stronze> festival>
[02:00] <maco> mralexandro: also, emerald is not a window manager
[02:00] <dholbert> Anyone know how to get set up with an account on people.ubuntu.com? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PeopleUbuntuCom )
[02:00] <thiebaude> !emerald
[02:00] <m0r0n> s0u1t: got it, the site was doing what I was doing too, need to restart
[02:00] <Lars_G> Any idea why these packages are missing?
[02:00] <miketosh> anyone? 9.04 seems unusable.  Fonts get corrupted, font rendering is worse every minute
[02:00] <mdg> Stronze: just to confirm, it starts with "festival"?
[02:00] <dholbert> (I can't connect to people.ubuntu.com, using my username & SSH key posted on launchpad)
[02:01] <maco> mralexandro: emerald and gtk-window-decorator are two window decorators for compiz. they draw the colored border and titlebar on windows when you use compiz.
[02:01] <mralexandro> maco,  sorry i mixed, metacity and compiz is window managers, gtk and emerald is decors
[02:01] <paissad-hp> hi everybody !
[02:01] <s0u1t> alrighty
[02:01] <ikla> does a GDM theme  theme the Lock screen?
[02:01] <maco> mralexandro: well "gtk" on its own refers to the widget toolkit. thats why i keep saying the whole g-w-d version
[02:01] <JoeSomebody> i am off now to read tons, i'll try not to bug you too much next week :)
[02:01] <paissad-hp> i have a  cron which never runs, but if i run it into console, everything's ok
[02:01] <paissad-hp> http://pastebin.com/f36486c4d
[02:01] <Stronze> mdg - nothing came up but what i paste what it showed in terminal
[02:01] <paissad-hp> that's the cron job , how can i solve that ?
[02:02] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance
[02:02] <mralexandro> maco, understood:)
[02:02] <administrator__> how do i change directory to my cd drive in the command line and view the contents
[02:02] <maco> mralexandro: xmonad is a tiling window manager. it suits my workflow (all windows either take the whole screen or they squish right up against each other in columns) better. it also doesnt have titlebars
[02:02] <maco> administrator__: cd /media/cdrom ?
[02:02] <mralexandro> ok
[02:02] <mdg> Stronze: ? you lost me
[02:02] <Stronze> mdg - its suppost to bea  text to audio program
[02:03] <Lars_G> any tips? is this somehow being detected as a smaller netbook repo, or is stuff like MC not in the std repos anymore?
[02:03] <administrator__> thanks
[02:03] <LordMetroid> $200 for a hard drive... Man that ain't cheap!
[02:03] <Stronze> mdg - no console control came up.its running in terminal
[02:03] <mdg> Stronze: what kind of text will it be "reading" to you?  webpage or what?
[02:03] <miketosh> how can I keep my panel icons from disappearing
[02:03] <thiebaude> LordMetroid: thats alot
[02:03] <Stronze> as far as i know it will read pdf and such
[02:03] <aj_444> mdg: I waited three minutes. it never shut down
[02:03] <billybigrigger> anyone here familiar with unetbootin?
[02:03] <LordMetroid> thiebaude, yes ssd... now I go to offtopic where I intended to write
[02:04] <aj_444> billybigrigger: yup. why?
[02:04] <thiebaude> billybigrigger: i used it many times
[02:04] <ubuntu> I am trying to install from usbstick all going fine so far..but in prepare disk space im slightly uncertain what its saying..I get sda1 and 2 are stuck as that is vista...but dev3 is 119gb and it wants to put 117.3gb there and 2.5gb to 'ubuntu 9.04'..what on earth does it mean ??? ;)
[02:04] <billybigrigger> i've used it to create a liveusb and when i go to boot the usb stick, i get an error from extlinux saying it can't find linux
[02:04] <rhlin99> which is better gnome or kde?
[02:04] <paissad-hp> how can i make this cron job works please, it does work when i run from theh console but not at crontab :-( http://pastebin.com/f36486c4d
[02:04] <billybigrigger> so do i need to edit extlinux.cfg or something?
[02:04] <Stronze> mdg - bah dont worry about.im gonna remove it and find another program
[02:05] <mdg> Stronze: espeak isanother app - but its console too
[02:05] <mdg> Stronze: I had it read me a web page the other day
[02:05] <Stronze> mdg - i just need a program to read pdf files
[02:05] <sebsebseb__> JoeSomebody: some of us yeah
[02:05] <billybigrigger> thiebaude: ???
[02:06] <billybigrigger> aj_444: ???
[02:06] <mdg> Stronze: you mean read what the pdf contains - i.e. spoken?
[02:06] <thiebaude> im here
[02:06] <Stronze> mdg - i downloaded the healthcare bill in congress but no way in well am i gonna read 1100 pages so i want to listen to it while i do other things
[02:06] <aj_444> I'm having issues shutting down ubuntu. mdg suggested I wait awhile, I gave it three minutes, and still the system wouldn't shut down. Help please.
[02:06] <billybigrigger> thiebaude: can't find linux
[02:06] <mdg> Stronze: ahh, i see
[02:06] <thiebaude> billybigrigger: on their site?
[02:06] <mdg> Stronze: espeak should be able to do that too - just pass it the file name
[02:07] <mdg> Stronze: also, pick a nice voice and speech rate
[02:07] <thiebaude> billybigrigger: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:07] <Kapace> how do i check how much memory is in use from terminal?
[02:07] <mdg> Stronze: espeak -f <file name>
[02:07] <s0u1t> top
[02:07] <s0u1t> kapace
[02:07] <s0u1t> I think is the command
[02:07] <Rocko> is compiz fusion still the main one to use ?
[02:07] <Kapace> s0u1t, ok where do i look>?
[02:08] <s0u1t> the mem line
[02:08] <Kapace> oh right heh
[02:08] <njs_> I keep getting kernel panics. The text is "run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory". Yet I know the file is there and executable and there's nothing wrong with $PATH.
[02:08] <s0u1t> total used etc
[02:08] <Kapace> is 9.8mb free bad?
[02:08] <thiebaude> billybigrigger: besides usb, distros can be installed on the hard drive too
[02:08] <s0u1t> not necessarily
[02:08] <Kapace> i think it is, really slow
[02:08] <Kapace> i don't have a swap
[02:08] <s0u1t> yeah actually
[02:09] <mdg> Stronze: I'm seeing if I can get a PDF to work in espeak right now....
[02:09] <Kapace> i guess im going to have to make file swap
[02:09] <s0u1t> if i'm reading mine right it looks like it segregates that which is being used as buffer
[02:09] <Kapace> (pagefile)
[02:09] <s0u1t> yeah
[02:09] <aj_444> mdg: I tried waiting for the machine to shut down. It never did.
[02:09] <Stronze> mdg - thanks.so just espeak -f file location/filename?
[02:09] <ShawnR> i am using ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop with synaptics touchpad, i am having issues setting up the tap zones, can anyone help?
[02:10] <billybigrigger> thiebaude: can't find anything on it
[02:10] <mdg> Stronze: yes, but you will want to investigate the options for speaker and speed, etc or you will go mad!
[02:10] <njs_> Can anybody help with that kernel panic?
[02:10] <s0u1t> actually kapace, what's your four fvalues
[02:10] <s0u1t> values that is
[02:11] <Lars_G> any tips? is this somehow being detected as a smaller netbook repo, or is stuff like MC not in the std repos anymore?
[02:11] <pablo_> ME pude conectar por Ubuntu..
[02:11] <Kapace> s0u1t, 379528k total, 369720 used, 9800k free 3764k buffers
[02:11] <pablo_> soy feliz..
[02:11] <Stronze> Failed to read file 'home/stronze/Desktop/HR3200.pdf'
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !pr | pablo_
[02:11] <pablo_> llevaba como 6 meses tratando !! ;)
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !br |  pablo_
[02:12] <Balgan> pablo_ is spanish
[02:12] <Balgan> not portuguese
[02:12] <thiebaude> !es
[02:12] <Balgan> so please dont give him wrong channel
[02:12] <Kapace> !es pablo_
[02:12] <pablo_> ohh,, sorry
[02:12] <sebsebseb> !es |  pablo  Balgan
[02:12] <pablo_> bye
[02:12] <Stronze> mdg - Failed to read file 'home/stronze/Desktop/HR3200.pdf'
[02:12] <Balgan> bye pablo_
[02:12] <pablo_> este fue el primer canal que encontré
[02:12] <Kapace> !es
[02:12] <mdg> espeak -f ~/Desktop/HR3200.pdf
[02:12] <aj_444> I am having trouble shutting down ubuntu. I get as far as the ubuntu screen and the line going the opposite direction it does at startup. Then the screen goes black and theres a blinking white - up in the left hand corner. There it stays. I've wa
[02:13] <joako> I started to use Ubuntu yesterday and I had some questions...
[02:13] <s0u1t> yeahI think that's bad, A. ubuntu needs like 256 or something bare minimum these days so your skating the line, B. I was going to say that the buffers looks like it's part of the "used" value, which makes used deceptive because buffers is what's being used to buffer files and can be recycled instantly when needed
[02:13] <aj_444> ed around five minutes and still nothing
[02:13] <Stronze> okay its reading i think
[02:13] <s0u1t> I think
[02:13] <Kapace> s0u1t, i see
[02:13] <Balgan> joako ask
[02:13] <thiebaude> joako: ok
[02:13] <Stronze> mdg - your right it will drive me insane
[02:13] <mdg> I forgotthe option in espeak that tells it to read a webpage
[02:13] <sebsebseb> aj_444: does it turn off  on it's own like it's meant to or not?
[02:13] <joako> What is the ideal way to share logins + home directories? In CentOS we used LDAP and NFS,  which seems to work ok on Ubuntu too.
[02:13] <s0u1t> but you only have a small amount doing that it looks like so likely can't open much more application wise
[02:13] <mdg> Stronze: :)
[02:13] <Stronze> mdg - how i edit voice and speed?
[02:13] <s0u1t> (without a page file)
[02:13] <sebsebseb> aj_444: does the computer still turn off on it's own?
[02:14] <aj_444> sebsebseb: No. I have to hold down the power button to get it to shut down.
[02:14] <mdg> Stronze: espeak --help will list where to find those
[02:14] <Tonisius> /quit
[02:14] <ShawnR> anyone know of a smaller ubuntu channel where i might find some help for more specific problems?
[02:14] <joako> Can I make a custom install disk with the updates already and customize the package selection and some settings?
[02:14] <mdg> Stronze: I can't get past the index with all the dots...... LOL
[02:15] <sebsebseb> aj_444: I see,   well  not sure what's causing it, but   what I do know is, that you can  hold down your power button and turn off  a  Linux distro,  without it  complaining at you the next time you turn it on again, like Windows would
[02:15] <s0u1t> Kapace are you using Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu?
[02:15] <thiebaude> ShawnR: not sure about #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <ShawnR> aj_444 my laptop does the same thing, when i hit Ctrl+Alt+Del there, it then finally stops/unmounts the HDD, and then "reboots" with no problem
[02:15] <Kapace> s0u1t, vanilla ubuntu
[02:15] <sebsebseb> aj_444: basically  you  don't have to  shut down  like  you would Windows,  just use the power button if you like
[02:15] <Kapace> im making my swap file right now
[02:15] <thiebaude> ShawnR: but you can ask away and we can try to answer your questions
[02:15] <s0u1t> I'm not an expert but you might want to try xubuntu or something lighter
[02:16] <aj_444> sebsebseb: I remember reading somewhere it was bad for your comptuer to do that
[02:16] <sebsebseb> aj_444: I  think if you  switch it off via the plug then, yes possibily
[02:16] <Kapace> s0u1t, yeah, but 9.04 is light enough for me for now
[02:16] <aj_444> ShawnR: So, I wait til I get the black screen, then do the Ctrl alt dlt thing then?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> aj_444: ,but  via the power button  it should be alright,  plus then the hardware knows, it's going to turn off?
[02:17] <aj_444> sebsebseb: Mmkay.
[02:17] <rww> sebsebseb: If by "using the power button" you mean pressing it, thus causing an ACPI event that tells the OS to shut down, that's fine in both Windows and Linux. If you mean holding down the power button, that's a bad idea in both as it doesn't cleanly unmount.
[02:17] <Stronze> mdg - it lets me test speeds but i cant figure out how to make it accept that speed
[02:18] <aj_444> rww: I have to hold the power button to get it to shut down. hitting it does nothing.
[02:18] <s0u1t> lol, ok. My experience in the past is that ubuntu and less than 512 is sluggish, (i've tried 384MB on a 700mhz p3 at least)
[02:18] <Stronze> mdg - id like a program that ran on the desktop instead of terminal :/
[02:18] <ShawnR> aj_444 yes, if you try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2, etc, you will see the screen where it shows what it is stuck on
[02:18] <mdg> Stronze: perhaps orca?
[02:18] <Kapace> s0u1t, i find that everything flys without swap until you hit your mem limit
[02:19] <mdg> Stronze: gnome-orca
[02:19] <rww> aj_444: if you do that *after* telling it to shut down and getting to the blinking white line, that's generally fine, since part of the stuff that happens when you get the "going backwards" Ubuntu line is the disks unmounting.
[02:19] <Kapace> then it starts to crash
[02:19] <rww> aj_444: It's equivalent to the "It's now safe to turn off your computer" screen from Windows 9x, basically.
[02:19] <s0u1t> yeah, that sounds about right, but in vanilla ubuntu I think you hit that limit rather quickly!
[02:19] <aj_444> rww: sounds good. Could the white blinking line have something to do with GRUB?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> rww: well   I  have  held the power button down on this computer loads now with Ubuntu,   and  not had any issues as  a  result,  as far as I know
[02:20] <mdg> Stronze: maybe not....
[02:20] <Stronze> hmm gnome-orca is already installed
[02:20] <wo> 能说中文么？
[02:20] <thiebaude> !cn
[02:20] <sebsebseb> rww: unless  when  I had Ext3,   some of  those  former  ages ago,   disk check errors was caused by that, but probably not
[02:20] <rww> sebsebseb: Well, I've done it tonnes of times on Windows and also not had an issue. Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
[02:20] <thiebaude> rww: i've never done that
[02:21] <rww> aj_444: I'm not sure. It started happening to me a while ago when I set some ACPI stuff incorrectly in my BIOS. I suppose if you disabled ACPI from GRUB it might also cause it.
[02:21] <sebsebseb> rww: his error could be to do with HAL?
[02:21] <dividebyzer0> I installed the .deb for cinelerra where does it go so I can run it?
[02:22] <aj_444> dividebyzer0: Search for it in synaptic
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  try typing cine<tab> in a terminal
[02:22] <dividebyzer0> aj_444: it didnt find anything
[02:22] <rww> aj_444, sebsebseb: Probably the easiest thing to figure this out would be to disable usplash in GRUB so you can see the shutdown messages and see if it's successfully terminating running programs, shutting down services (including HAL), unmounting, etc.
[02:22] <Stronze> mdg - i keep googling diff words but it wont give me a direct PDF txt to audio reader
[02:22] <aj_444> rww: howwould I do that?
[02:22] <mdg> Stronze: you using adobe acrobat reader?
[02:22] <michaelc> hello
[02:23] <michaelc> hmmm
[02:23] <mdg> Stronze: or acroread?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> aj_444: your issue will probably disappper in Karmic,  which isn't released as a final yet.   also  HAL is being replaced in that one
[02:23] <aj_444> dividebyzer0: hmm. weird. sometimes you just need to click on the zipped file and it'll install itself
[02:23] <michaelc> hello people
[02:23] <michaelc> how can i stop my microphone muteing
[02:23] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: what is hal being replaced by?
[02:23] <aj_444> sebsebseb: I am actually running karmic currently. jaunty wouldn't recogonize my wireless/ethernet
[02:23] <dividebyzer0> aj_444: hm, Ill look around more.. I did a file search and it didnt find anything, I even restarted
[02:23] <Stronze> emd - i finally got the right combo in google and found a list of programs
[02:23] <sebsebseb> aj_444: ah ha I see
[02:24] <sebsebseb> aj_444: same here,   I think  I  had  a similar issue before,  or was that the vm,   by the way  for Karmic help you should be using #ubuntu+1 really
[02:24] <rww> aj_444: did you upgrade from jaunty or install karmic from scratch?
[02:24] <shamm> hi ubunters
[02:24] <michaelc> anyone no how to stop microphones stop muteing them self in the sound tools
[02:24] <mdg> Stronze: looks like PDFs need to be converted to regular text to be read
[02:24] <mdg> Stronze: in both Orca and espeak and probably festival
[02:24] <aj_444> rww: I installed from scratch. I deleted a partition I had of jaunty.
[02:24] <sebsebseb> aj_444: this psyicail install seems to be shutting down fine, but the vm I had before this was a bit hmm
[02:25] <sebsebseb> !karmic  |  aj_444  rww
[02:25] <LinuxGold> can vmware run in console only?
[02:25] <aj_444> sebsebseb: oh. I didn't know there was a karmic help irc.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  thers ways to 'view' the contents of a .deb and see exactly whats in it and what it puts where.   or update the locate database, and try 'locate cinerella' to see what files exist with that name. (if cineralla) dosent work from the terminal, it may be a Upper Case C
[02:25] <rww> aj_444: then you're probably using GRUB2, and I have no idea if they changed the way you configured that. As sebsebseb said, #ubuntu+1 is probably a good idea :)
[02:25] <rww> s/you configured that/one configures that/
[02:25] <aj_444> I'll check that out.
[02:25] <s0u1t> LinuxGold what do you mean?'
[02:26] <Lars_G> any tips? is this somehow being detected as a smaller netbook repo, or is stuff like MC not in the std repos anymore?
[02:26] <LinuxGold> s0u1t: I'm running ubuntu-server, I do not want to install X server.  I want to run Windows XP in vmware, can that be done?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[02:26] <maco> Dr_Willis, dividebyzer0: dpkg -c <package>.deb will list contents
[02:26] <Lars_G> meh
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> Lars_G:  mc =
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> Lars_G:  mc =  'universe
[02:26] <s0u1t> yes
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:26] <Lars_G> Dr_Willis: I found it, for some reason it hadn't done the apt-get update as I asked.
[02:26] <s0u1t> which version of vmware though?
[02:26] <Lars_G> thanks
[02:26] <LinuxGold> s0u1t: anything that works and free.
[02:26] <LinuxGold> :)
[02:27] <dividebyzer0> thanks, the link is http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb
[02:27] <poet> Hi.  My System Monitor shows one of my CPU's running at 100%, but the process list shows no process using any significant amount of CPU.  Any idea why this is happening?
[02:27] <LinuxGold> poet: try top -i?
[02:27] <Stronze> mdg - im checking out the adobe Read Out Load
[02:27] <mdg> Stronze: http://wiki.soslug.org/wiki/espeak - theres a script to convert PDF to text and then MP3 about two-thirds way down page
[02:28] <mdg> Stronze: let me know if that works...
[02:28] <poet> LinuxGold: it saysa  command called whiptail is using 100% cpu
[02:28] <s0u1t> haha, well vmware server 1.x has the "Vmware console" gui app which requires x to be used on the host but I believe can be "remoted to" when you have the "console" installed elsewhere with gui
[02:28] <LinuxGold> poet: there you go
[02:28] <syntax> whats a good movie player in ubuntu?
[02:28] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi:  this will tell you http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4
[02:28] <bruenig> syntax: mplayer
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> syntax:  vlc, mplayer, xine, totem, take a pick
[02:28] <s0u1t> vmware server 2 has web interface served up over http
[02:28] <LinuxGold> s0u1t: so I need to build VMware file and transfer from one machine to server.
[02:28] <Stronze> mdg - http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Reader/8.0/help.html?content=WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7d15.html
[02:28] <filsuf> hallo NETBOOK USERS ,... why do we want to use that easy-peasy thing?
[02:28] <irfan_> can i use my cell phone as webcam?
[02:28] <bruenig> lulz DigitalKiwi
[02:29] <dividebyzer0> still cant figure out where it went
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> filsuf:  use what you want. I use the netbook remix and install the normal gnome desktop
[02:29] <filsuf> I just use the real ubuntu and I cant really see why some wanna use the easy-peasy ...
[02:29] <m0r0n> Hey, my flash drive, nor my CD rom is being read, any idea what's going on?
[02:29] <dividebyzer0> I figured it would be in synaptic
[02:29] <DigitalKiwi> ah, thanks sebsebseb
[02:29] <DigitalKiwi> lulz bruenig
[02:29] <irfan_> please tell me
[02:29] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: no probs
[02:29] <s0u1t> the actual virtual machines can be created elsewhere and moved to host or you can create them using either of those two methods remotely
[02:29] <filsuf> you know .... hackintosh is also running pretty well on Asus 1000 EEE PC
[02:29] <filsuf> ca va isabellf
[02:29] <irfan_> tell me please
[02:29] <FrozenFire[work]> In regards to the brochure I was talking about earlier, here's what I've come up with. It's simple, but relatively high quality. Unfortunately, I wanted to use Cleartype fonts such as Calibri and Candara, so Ubuntu users will have to install those manually (Details can be found via Google)
[02:30] <FrozenFire[work]> http://thefrozenfire.com/data/Ubuntu.doc
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  that .deb is just docuemt files.......
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !patience |  irfan_
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  theres no actual program in there.. Just docs and  keyring files..
[02:30] <sebsebseb> irfan_: and those links probably won't have your answer
[02:30] <dividebyzer0> I see that hrm..
[02:30] <aj_444> sebsebseb: I went to ubuntu+1.. there isn't anyone responding
[02:30] <sebsebseb> irfan_: does it have a camera on your phone?   by the way this is really off topic for this channal
[02:30] <dividebyzer0> Dr_Willis: well it added a repository though
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  i used 'dpkg -c whatever.deb' like was mentioned earlier
[02:30] <irfan_> can i use my cell phone as a webcam
[02:30] <mdg> Stronze: hmm, I only have evince
[02:31] <michaelc> can someone help?
[02:31] <sebsebseb> aj_444: just wait
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  yes the scripts could do most anything.. but adding a repo does NOT isntall the cineralla program.. you sould still need to update/upgrade/install cineralla then
[02:31] <irfan_> i have cemara in my phone
[02:31] <Biacz> looking for fancy gnome desktop apps. can someone give me a keyword to google for?
[02:31] <alex___> hi
[02:31] <cheetahw26> im trying to install ubuntu from within windows... after running the install it asked me to restart, which i did.. but now I get grub error 17
[02:31] <sebsebseb> irfan_: and can it  be used as a web cam?
[02:31] <Biacz> right now all of them are attached to panels
[02:31] <dividebyzer0> Dr_Willis: so where is the Cinelerra install then?
[02:31] <irfan_> yes
[02:31] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: oh you mean wubi?
[02:31] <irfan_> can i do it ?
[02:32] <cheetahw26> im booting into Puppy linux now, to edit the grub config... but I dont know what to enter/modify to fix
[02:32] <cheetahw26> yes... wubi
[02:32] <mdg> Stronze: is it working for you?
[02:32] <aj_444> sebsebseb: I'll try. <_<
[02:32] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: don't do wubi
[02:32] <dividebyzer0> Dr_Willis: ah.. found an entry in the synaptic
[02:32] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: Wubi can go bad yeah, and looks  like it has for you
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> dividebyzer0:  i would recheck the docs you are following.. You said it isntaleld a 'repository' THUS you need to run the package manager and look for cineralla now and actually install it.
[02:32] <Stronze> mdg - still figuring it out
[02:32] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: better to do a proper partitioned install and it's not hard
[02:32] <cheetahw26> i dont have much of a choice... there is no way to do a net install with a cd currently right?
[02:32] <dividebyzer0> Dr_Willis: it goes by "cinelerracv' thats why
[02:32] <sebsebseb> !install |  cheetahw26
[02:32] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  cheetahw26
[02:32] <cheetahw26> im not worried about the complexity ... or dual booting by any means...
[02:33] <irfan_> please tell me can i use my cell phone camera as a web cam
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> irfan_:  ive never heard of that beind done.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> irfan_: does the device support such a feature?
[02:33] <s0u1t> irfan_ I've never heard of you being able to
[02:33] <cheetahw26> my laptop's cd rom is on the verge of breaking down... i am unable to get a proper install
[02:33] <dividebyzer0> irfan_: let me know if you can do that, ive never heard of it
[02:33] <sebsebseb> irfan_: what your asking, what has it to go to do with Ubuntu?
[02:33] <cheetahw26> i tested the cd on another laptop and the cd is perfectly fine..
[02:33] <irfan_> oh no
[02:33] <sebsebseb> irfan_: got to do above
[02:34] <irfan_> but we can do it into windows
[02:34] <s0u1t> can you?
[02:34] <dividebyzer0> how?
[02:34] <s0u1t> never heard of it in windows either
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> never seen it done in windows either. :)
[02:34] <cheetahw26> ive looked at the documentation about copying the .iso to a separate partition and booting to the install off of the hard drive, but haven't been able to get that to work either
[02:34] <dividebyzer0> unless only a proprietary phone can do it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: you can  boot the ISO in a virtual machine,  if your computer has enough RAM
[02:34] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: that  should work
[02:35] <cheetahw26> yeah... vm will work, but that is not what i want... i want to replace my windows install with ubuntu
[02:35] <s0u1t> no usb flash drive big enough?
[02:35] <sileni> hello everyone
[02:35] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: and I assume  the phone is  a USB device?   and  if so,   then  you should be able to   use it  with the  closed source version of Virtualbox  from http://www.virtualbox.org which has the USB support
[02:36] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: well  yes  that's  what you will be doing basically
[02:36] <cheetahw26> sebsebseb: phone??
[02:36] <centinul> I accidentally had a chown misshap on my 9.04 system. Now I can't use the Switch User portion of Ubuntu anymore. Where should I start looking?
[02:36] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, there is a tool that dose it for you
[02:36] <DigitalKiwi> wront person sebsebseb
[02:36] <DigitalKiwi> wrong*
[02:36] <irfan_> i will try to do it and tell you
[02:36] <bruce89> called a spoon
[02:36] <s0u1t> hehe, I think you have two conversations mixed up sebsebseb
[02:37] <sebsebseb> s0u1t: uh that's happended before
[02:37] <cheetahw26> De-Mentor: what tool ?? wubi ?  thats the one I just tried and got the Grub Error 17
[02:37] <sebsebseb> irfan_: uh see above,  looks like  I  should have been  messaging you
[02:37] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, you can boot from a usb drive
[02:37] <s0u1t> phone is irfan_, cheetahw26 is install ubuntu over windows without cd rom
[02:37] <mdg> Stronze: I'm downloading Adobe reader for linux now...
[02:37] <cheetahw26> im in puppy linux now, and I can rewrite the Grub, but not sure what is causing the error or how to repair... also can't find any documentation on how wubi is supposed to boot using grub
[02:38] <cheetahw26> De-Mentor: that would be great, but my laptop does not support booting from usb..
[02:38] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: unetbootin
[02:38] <sebsebseb> !usb |  cheetahw26
[02:38] <s0u1t> bummer
[02:38] <cheetahw26> s0u1t: thats what I just tried... and after was prompted to restart got Grub Error: 17
[02:38] <michaelc> hi
[02:38] <michaelc> hello
[02:39] <michaelc> when i try turn my mic up it wont go up can someone help
[02:39] <cheetahw26> I will have to repair just to boot back into windows... but if I knew how Wubi wanted the grub or what went wrong, maybe I could boot into the install i actually wanted
[02:39] <sebsebseb> s0u1t: thanks,   but now the phone person seems to have disappeard on us
[02:39] <s0u1t> cheetahw26: I think wubi is capable of making the grub install read and load linux from ntfs partition already on the drive
[02:39] <Schmitty> is there a process history i can use in terminal? for instance. If i wanted to know where pid 2865 orginated from 10 minutes ago can I do that?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> cheetahw26: normalley I woudn't recommend  Wubi,  but it seems you  may have a reason for it
[02:39] <s0u1t> sebsebseb: I think he said he was going to go try using his phone with windows as the webcam
[02:39] <cheetahw26> s0u1t: I am aware that it is supposed to :)    but when attempting to do so, I got an error, and don't know what the proper configuration should be
[02:40] <biggy> any one know how to unlock sony phone
[02:40] <s0u1t> interesting
[02:40] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, your cd dosent work at all?
[02:40] <cheetahw26> sebsebseb: I completely agrea, not really a big fan.. makes me feel like a cross dresser :)
[02:40] <s0u1t> cheetahw26: do you have an unusual partition table perhaps? multiple drives or something?
[02:40] <cheetahw26> it does work, but it crashes after a few minutes or so... and is very sporadic
[02:41] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, because im almost sure there is a boot cd that allows you to boot from usb even thought your laptop dosent support it
[02:41] <kylemerchant> Enter text here...I need help
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !helpme |  kylemerchant
[02:41] <cheetahw26> don't know how you would define unusual... 2 NTFS partitions and one hopefully soon to be ext3 with a swap at the end
[02:41] <sub[t]rnl> cd
[02:41] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, I used it once i just dont remember whats the name of it
[02:41] <mdg> kylemerchant: what are you trying to do?
[02:41] <cheetahw26> but to install using Wubi, I formatted the ext3 & swap to NTFS and installed to that with Wubi
[02:41] <sebsebseb> kylemerchant: that factoid  is a  bit nasty in a way,  this one is more nice though
[02:41] <kylemerchant> hello
[02:41] <kylemerchant> yes
[02:41] <sebsebseb> !ask |  kylemerchant
[02:41] <Stronze> mdg - okay i got acoread installed and now have that option when i load the pdf.now im working on getting to play
[02:42] <s0u1t> well my first guess would be that is the problem because I woudl guess that grub is looking for a default windows installation
[02:42] <cheetahw26> I wish there was I way I could boot from the cdrom partially and then install the rest over ftp
[02:42] <mdg> Stronze: I'm just now installing
[02:42] <syntax> is it good to use the proprieatry drivers ati/amd compared to the ones thats on the ati.com site?
[02:42] <Mark09> was interested if anyone installs cpanel in ubuntu? the google hits I got were from 2006.
[02:42] <kylemerchant> I can't find my mail on my mail, when itt says mail is there
[02:43] <kylemerchant> did you get it
[02:43] <Stronze> mdg - interesting
[02:43] <kylemerchant> ok
[02:43] <sebsebseb> kylemerchant: yeah, but not my area
[02:43] <Stronze> mdg - when i try read out loud.the program freezes
[02:43] <s0u1t> cheetaw26: do you know how to verify that grub is looking at the right partition for your windows install that you installed wubi to?
[02:44] <mdg> Stronze: how are you starting it reading?
[02:44] <De-Mentor> cheetahw26, are you there?
[02:45] <cheetahw26> yeah sorry..
[02:45] <cheetahw26> haven't looked at grub yet will do now
[02:45] <Phrea> hello
[02:46] <IdleOne> cheetahw26: ubuntu has a mini iso that installs the base and gets the rest from the net.
[02:47] <mdg> Stronze: the menu characters turned chinese or something on me LOL
[02:47] <mdg> Stronze: got it
[02:47] <mdg> Stronze: not a nice voice though
[02:48] <Stronze> mdg - i tried highlight then selct view>read out load then click highlighted section froze
[02:48] <Stronze> mdg - just clicked view>read out loud  froze
[02:49] <mdg> Stronze: I didn
[02:49] <mdg> Stronze: I didn't highlight - just picked read page and read to end of document
[02:49] <Stronze> mdg - how did you download it?
[02:50] <Stronze> mdg - i used http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-763211.html
[02:50] <mdg> Stronze: I went to the download page for Adobe Acrobat reader -linux and choose the .deb file and it installed
[02:50] <mdg> Stronze: I see options under Edit menu for picking another voice - gotta check that out!
[02:51] <ran231> I am trying to setup a wpa_supplicant.conf for my university's 802.1x PEAP Network. Will someone please look at the one that I have generated and verify whether it will work? In addition, I don't have any idea how to convert a ,crt certificate to a ,pem certificate. I read the wpa_supplicant.conf can only use .pems. Is that correct?
[02:51] <Dwade09> if anyone in here is running ubuntu on a macbook and it is fully functioning just like if you ran mac, can you please give me a pm.
[02:51] <mdg> Stronze: didn
[02:52] <mdg> Stronze: did change it :/
[02:52] <IdleOne> Dwade09: ask your question in here and benefit from every ones  help
[02:52] <Sirmimer> Hello, i need help installing a windows program useing wine
[02:52] <Stronze> mdg - where in download page?
[02:52] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: wine filename.exe
[02:52] <g8tor> hello all
[02:53] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  i need someone who is running on a macbook, and want to know if everything will work just like it does with the main macbook os x
[02:53] <mdg> Stronze: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
[02:53] <mdg> Stronze: I chose linux x86 .deb
[02:53] <ran231> a
[02:53] <mdg> Stronze: and let the application g-deblet install it
[02:53] <Dwade09> example all the keyboard keys, and their Fn functions as well, and also the, mouse with two finger taps for right click.
[02:53] <IdleOne> Dwade09: best way to find out is download the live cd and test. mileage varies from machine to machine
[02:54] <IdleOne> !pm | Sirmimer
[02:54] <g8tor> I have a ubuntu box @ work that I use for backups and such. I would like to have it send mail from cron jobs but we use exchange.Anyone know how I can get my ubuntu (postfix mta) box to send mail through our exchange server?
[02:54] <Stronze> im pretty sure my laptop is 32 bit
[02:54] <Sirmimer> Oh sorry IldeOne
[02:54] <Sirmimer> Should i ask here, or your busy?
[02:54] <Stronze> mdg - not 100% sure tho
[02:55] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: ask here if I don't know the answer someone else might help
[02:55] <DWonderly> !ask | Sirmimer
[02:55] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  dont want to do that as i do not have a way to back up al my data, if something goes wrong.
[02:55] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: to install wine type in terminal sudo apt-get install wine
[02:55] <cheetahw26> IdleOne: where is that mini install that gets the rest from the net ??
[02:55] <mdg> Stronze: x86 is 32 bit
[02:55] <Sirmimer> I have wine, i installed it from synaptic
[02:55] <netdur1> hi guys, I got a joke... how does ubuntu fix bugs? it makes them rot and die
[02:56] <IdleOne> Dwade09: the live cd runs all in ram it wont install until you tell it to
[02:56] <Stronze> mdg - learn somethin new everyday
[02:56] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: ok now in terminal go to cd Desktop ( if that is where you saved the .exe file ) and type wine filename.exe ( change filename for the actual name )
[02:56] <netdur1> not funny
[02:57] <Sirmimer> I wantet to know how to install Ventrilo on my pc. It's not for linux yet so i have to use wine. I downloaded the install file from their website: "Windows i386 - 32bit - Win2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008m"
[02:57] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  that is why i asked , if everything works like it should, and running the live cd does not tell me if all will work once installed, as i ran live cd before and everything worked like a charm, then when it came to install i had to get drivers for Everything, but in live cd i didnt.
[02:57] <wANd_> Hey all is there a good commandline bittorent client?  I just bought a VPS but it doesnt have the juice to run X
[02:57] <IdleOne> !ot > netdur1
[02:57] <dividebyzer0> well I got cinelerra installed, but it keeps crashing so bleh
[02:57] <Sirmimer> its on my desktop yea, how do i go to cd desktop in the terminal; what do i type?
[02:57] <Flannel> wANd_: The default one will work just fine, the command to launch the one for multiple torrents is btlaunchmanycurses, bt[tab][tab] will get you a list
[02:58] <dividebyzer0> I think I'll just set up a dual boot with XP
[02:58] <IdleOne> Dwade09: I see what your saying.
[02:58] <wANd_> i will look,tahsnk
[02:58] <wANd_> thanks
[02:58] <Flannel> wANd_: You give it a directory as a parameter, and it'll download any torrents you throw in there (and rescan every few minutes)
[02:58] <netdur1> IdleOne: yeah! minutes ago I got email from launchpad saying that nobody cares about bugs I have opened therefore they will close it... like that?
[02:58] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: cd Desktop
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> wANd_:  theres several others . with differnt featutres also
[02:58] <netdur1> that happened to almost every bug I have reported
[02:58] <Stronze> mdg - lmao!! i using the other guide i downloaded the older version of adobe.correcting that mistake
[02:58] <Luig1> IS there a good graphical app for messing with iptables? (i.e. opening a port, for e.g. BitTorrent?)
[02:58] <IdleOne> netdur1: I highly doubt that. #ubuntu-offtopics is a good place to go troll
[02:58] <Stronze> mdg - Error: Breaks exisiting package 'acroread' conflict: adobereader-enu ( )
[02:59] <Flannel> !iptables | Luig1
[02:59] <netdur1> IdleOne: then let me get you url
[02:59] <Stronze> mdg - gonna remove adobe and reinstall
[02:59] <carrie_555> My ubuntu 9.04 has been "freezing!!!" lately, and the unique solution is the reset button. Does any log file exist, that might report the cause of these crashes?
[02:59] <Sirmimer> IdleOne, okay done. Now i type "sudo wine filename.exe" (ofc i change filename to the right one)
[02:59] <Dwade09> Sirmimer,  here is a post on vent and ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[02:59] <Flannel> netdur1: This channel is for support only, please take non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[02:59] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: wine filename.exe
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Sirmimer:  you rarely need to use sudo with wine...
[02:59] <netdur1> IdleOne: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/291836
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Sirmimer:  and doing so may make things less reliable.
[02:59] <Luig1> Thanks, Flannel
[02:59] <Sirmimer> Okay
[03:00] <mdg> Stronze: I need to figure out how to add female voices - the male voices are too harsh
[03:00] <netdur1> Flannel: my laptop fails to reboot, every time... this is a tech problem
[03:00] <Stronze> mdg - your jsut a sexist admit it :D
[03:00] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  glad you understand instead of trying to say im wrong jeje,
[03:00] <mdg> Stronze: LOL
[03:00] <Sirmimer> Okay i got it installed - thanks. Now how do i open it?
[03:01] <Flannel> netdur1: If you'd like support with that problem, feel free to ask a question about it.  But this channel is not an appropriate place to discuss your bug reports
[03:01] <wANd_> Flannel: I don't have that app and i cant find it in apt-cache search
[03:01] <IdleOne> Dwade09: it has happened to me also but usually the live cd is a good test. mac has it's issues not sure if there is a #ubuntu-ppc
[03:01] <wANd_> Dr_Willis: oh?  any suggestions? :)
[03:01] <IdleOne> netdur1: don't see where they said they don't care
[03:01] <mdg> Stronze: actually, I just find the male voices hard to understand - too robotic sounding
[03:01] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  there is but not very many in it jeje.
[03:01] <netdur1> Flannel: I have asked here and was told to report a bug!!!
[03:01] <Flannel> wANd_: It's installed by default in Ubuntu, your VPS must have customized it. The package is bittornado
[03:02] <dividebyzer0> ugh, i dont want to go back to windows... *cries*
[03:02] <IdleOne> Dwade09: well you got to be patient :)
[03:02] <Sirmimer> IdleOne: I got the program installed, how do i open it now?
[03:02] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  i will take this to the local community college and see what the smart guys there have to say as i have to go there tomorrow anyways.
[03:02] <netdur1> IdleOne: that was their "don't care" in _nice way_
[03:02] <Flannel> netdur1: That makes sense.  You should if it's a bug.  But this channel isn't for bug discussions, we have other channels for that.  We can help you work around the bug if possible (although that might be best done in the bug report itself), but this channel is not for discussing your bug
[03:03] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: I searched for what you are having trouble with, but, apparently, I cannot find it. Could you explain to me why you feel you might have to go to back to Failzors (Windows), I might be able to help
[03:03] <MikeC> Anyone know why Xchat locks up when trying to list channels?  I'd take the question to the right channel but...
[03:03] <Dwade09> netdur1,  no, that was not my nice way of saying dont care, u just joined the room, not many in there, but do not mean i wont hit the room up.
[03:03] <Stronze> mdg - interesting.i redownloaded adobe reader 9 and read out load is still crashing it.i only get for options is activate read out load
[03:03] <MikeC> Something related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/276229
[03:04] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: it should be listed in your Applications menu under wine
[03:04] <nocturna> Can ayone help me with a problem? I have grub2 installed (using latest ubuntu alpha), and the menu entries are in the config..but I can't choose them at bootup. It automatically boots into ubuntu and I cannot choose any other OS. Anyone know how I can show the menu options?
[03:04] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: I need to do some video editing and nothing seems to work right on ubuntu
[03:04] <mdg> Stronze: how much ram you have?
[03:04] <xps9000> MikeC: No, but, have you tried. Apt-get remove xchat? and reinstalled?
[03:04] <Sirmimer> IldeOne: It's not :S
[03:04] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Video card make/model?
[03:04] <Stronze> mdg - 2 gigs
[03:04] <Flannel> netdur1: What that's saying is you need to confirm its still a bug, and provide them with the stuff they need (the various log files)
[03:04] <MikeC> xps9000: First time using it, but I can try
[03:04] <rww> MikeC: Try "/msg alis help" for info on Freenode's channel listing bot, which might work better. If you're using xchat-gnome, try xchat. And the xchat (not xchat-gnome) channel is #xchat ;)
[03:04] <mdg> Stronze: oh - that should be plenty
[03:05] <Sirmimer> IldeOne: I do see it in my wine folder. But its not under App --> Wine
[03:05] <wANd_> thanks flannel i see the package
[03:05] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: Nvidia Geforce 8700M-GT
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> nocturna:  ive seen issues with GRUB where it dosent see/use a USB keyboard properly. I either have to use a ps2 keyboard. or enable the 'legacy usb' support in the bios.
[03:05] <lordnikon> i need help.  I have a HP laptop that has a wifi card installed but it does not show up anywhere in the device manager
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> nocturna:  and check #ubuntu+1 for aplha support.. Good luck
[03:05] <lordnikon> what do i do
[03:05] <nocturna> ok thanks!
[03:05] <IdleOne> Sirmimer: #winehq I don't use wine so I am not certain
[03:05] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: What exact problem are you having? By the way, xorg.conf is not hard to edit, if that's where your issue lies.
[03:06] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  i do thank you for your help and will put it to use, and do somemore looking into this tomorrow.
[03:06] <xps9000> problems*
[03:06] <mdg> Stronze: maybe its the size of the PFD
[03:06] <dividebyzer0> Im trying to use cinelerra and when I add my files, it crashes
[03:06] <Sirmimer> IldeOne: Thanks, i did figure out how to open it, but i have to go into the folder and stuff. So i'll ask how to get it up under apps.
[03:06] <IdleOne> Dwade09: no problem and I hope it works well for you
[03:06] <dividebyzer0> just completely closes out
[03:06] <Stronze> mdg - yeah it was.i figured it out
[03:06] <Stronze> mdg - oh god you was right
[03:06] <Stronze> mdg - that is annoying
[03:06] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Descriptions please
[03:07] <Stronze> mdg - how you fix that?!
[03:07] <Dwade09> IdleOne,  i will let you know, when i do find a good guide, and install it.
[03:07] <mdg> Stronze: good question....
[03:07] <xps9000> cinelerra . One moment.
[03:07] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: thats pretty much it.. I add my mp4 and maybe an mp3 and it will crash
[03:07] <mdg> Stronze: how many "chapters" are there?
[03:07] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: cinelerra is a video editing software for linux
[03:08] <xps9000> I am not familiar with cinelerra, just give me a second so I can point you in the right direction, Dividebyzer0
[03:08] <mdg> Stronze: espeak -v en+f2 "Hello there my friend." - what do you think?
[03:08] <Stronze> mdg - you know that 1100 page healthcare bill everyone is freaking out about? thats what im using the ereader for
[03:08] <mdg> Stronze: how come you are reading it?
[03:09] <default> nick acsi
[03:09] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: What program did you use on windows to do your video editing?
[03:09] <dividebyzer0> sony vegas and camtasia studio 6
[03:09] <xps9000> Do you still have copies of this software?
[03:10] <dividebyzer0> yes, I bought them.
[03:10] <Stronze> mdg - cuz i want to know whats in it
[03:10] <Stronze> mdg - if you let someone else do your thinking then your screwed
[03:10] <asci> does brother provider open source linux drivers for all their new printers like hp does?
[03:10] <mdg> Stronze: I thought maybe you were a doctor or something
[03:10] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Ok, I'm trying to give you some options, so, bare with me.
[03:10] <mdg> Stronze: I agree - we should know more, but thats another channel
[03:11] <Manifest> I have a WiFi HP printer. How can I print wireless to it from Ubuntu?
[03:11] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: I've never worked with this software, so, I'm doing alittle research to figure out if this is a known bug.
[03:11] <mdg> Stronze:  espeak -v en+f2 "Hello there my friend." what do you think of that voice?
[03:11] <Stronze> mdg - im just wanting to listen to it and see what the hell everyone is so mad about it or so for it
[03:11] <wANd_> darn, Bittorent wont work, it says unknown URL type UDP
[03:11] <wANd_> i need a client that can use UDP
[03:11] <wANd_> for commandline
[03:11] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: thanks, Ive heard of KDEnLive, cinelerra, and a couple other things but nothing works that great for linux yet
[03:12] <lordnikon> is duanedesign on tonight
[03:12] <LinuxGold> googled for VMware, got mixed answers - is there any Vmware in deb package?
[03:12] <Flannel> Stronze: If you can get the text out of it, you can send it to festival to speak it
[03:12] <LinuxGold> in repo
[03:12] <Stronze> mdg - goes to fast
[03:12] <mdg> Stronze: really?
[03:12] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Have you considered using wine? And installing your video apps on it? (Winters API on linux)
[03:12] <mdg> Stronze: 180 wpm
[03:12] <Stronze> mdg - i cant figure out how to get a female voice to work on mine
[03:12] <MicronXD> Hi all! :D
[03:12] <xps9000> Windows*
[03:12] <Manifest> I have a WiFi HP printer. How can I print wireless to it from Ubuntu?
[03:12] <Stronze> mdg - i got adobe set to 150
[03:13] <LinuxGold> hi MicronXD
[03:13] <mdg> Stronze: I'm trying to figure out how to compile the female voice as espeak default
[03:13] <Stronze> flannel - it be faster to shaving an oak tree with a straight razor than pull all the tect from this
[03:13] <mdg> Flannel: you know anything about espeak?
[03:13] <dividebyzer0> xps9000 yes, and it didnt work that great, I tried with virtualbox too and the video lagged really bad
[03:13] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Also, I need to know... Does Cine crash? Or does it lock up?
[03:14] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: it just exits. completely closes out
[03:14] <Stronze> mdg - adobe uses espeak drivers
[03:15] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: How long have you been running Ubuntu? Have you installed the restricted drivers the Ubuntu recommends?
[03:15] <mdg> Flannel: do you have a link to convert PDF to text?
[03:15] <dividebyzer0> xps9000: probably a couple weeks now, Ive installed everything that it has asked, and the correct one for my video card
[03:16] <maco> mdg: pdf2text
[03:16] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: Ok, still reading on this software, bare with me
[03:16] <mdg> maco: is that an apt-get install?
[03:16] <chuy_max> guys, how can I determine which video driver my computer is using? (it is not in xorg.conf file)
[03:17] <bob12345> hi i cant seem to get hulu website to work on ubuntu 9.04
[03:17] <lordnikon> will the wifi drivers from  gateway laptop work on a HP laptop
[03:17] <Kapace> chuy_max, try looking in lsmod
[03:17] <lordnikon> and is fo how do i find them on m computer
[03:17] <maco> mdg: pdftotext sorry. its in the xpdf-utils package
[03:17] <Formode> Hey all, my Ctrl + C (Escape Sequence) is no longer functioning in URXVT, Xterm, or Terminator... But is working in TTY. Anyone know why? stty -a shows ^C is my escape sequence. >>
[03:18] <mdg> ah... installed already - thanks maco!
[03:18] <nomasteryoda> lordnikon, what kind of wireless? might not even need any more than what is on the ubuntu disk if you have good cards
[03:18] <Sentinel> Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew how to send pulseaudio to shoutcast.  Nothing I could find online works.
[03:18] <lordnikon> nom, regular wifi
[03:18] <xps9000> dividebyzer0: When you installed the software, did you see any errors? Did you install it via terminal or via the manager?
[03:18] <chuy_max> Kapace, well, there's one called video, and one called videodev, I expected to see vesa or nv or nvidia
[03:19] <lordnikon> but the card does not show up under the device manager
[03:19] <bob12345> hi i cant get firefox to work with flash
[03:19] <Formode> Sentinel, If you just want music, use MPD.
[03:19] <MicronXD> When I run knoppix 5.1 on my desktop, and it tries to start xorg? (the gui) it fails once or twice, but then starts to work. With ubuntu, I can't get the gui started. is there anyway i can get the settings from knoppix, and change my ubuntu settings to work the same way?
[03:19] <Sentinel> Formode: I was hoping to get all sound...
[03:20] <Kapace> chuy_max, maybe google could help, i've never seen that before
[03:20] <Kapace> chuy_max, lspci?
[03:20] <Formode> Formode: Does it support saving the stream as an mp3?
[03:20] <mdg> maco: wow works fast!
[03:20] <Flannel> MicronXD: Using the liveCD?  Try to start in safe graphics mode.  Sometimes the liveCD does a bad job with it (and usually it goes away once you actually install)
[03:21] <bob12345> need help with firefox plugins
[03:21] <ctmjr> chuy_max: your looking for what graphics driver X is using?
[03:21] <MicronXD> Flannel: neh... the liveCD and the install both don't work, but the knoppix liveCD works fine. anyway to figure out what settings knoppix is using?
[03:21] <Formode> bob12345, Which one?
[03:21] <chuy_max> ctmjr, yes
[03:21] <amseidler> How do I set up a wifi printer?
[03:21] <bob12345> flash and java dont seem to work right
[03:21] <Kapace> chuy_max, what does lspci say?
[03:21] <Formode> !flash | bob12345
[03:22] <Formode> !javascript | bob12345
[03:22] <Formode> !java | bob12345
[03:22] <ctmjr> chuy_max: ok try this egrep "Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:22] <amseidler> I'm using an HP c7250. How do I print over wifi through Ubuntu?
[03:22] <Stronze> mdg - im googling how to change the voice but everything it finds favors windows
[03:22] <bob12345> thanks guys
[03:22] <LinuxGold> winblowz
[03:22] <nomasteryoda> lordnikon, because the card is a broadcom chip ... do an "lspci |grep bcm" in the terminal to see what you have
[03:22] <chuy_max> ctmjr, (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
[03:23] <chuy_max> ugh, so I guess it is using vesa
[03:23] <lordnikon> ok hold on
[03:23] <lordnikon> ill post it on pm
[03:23] <ctmjr> chuy_max: yep vesa
[03:23] <Formode> Hey all, my Ctrl + C (Escape Sequence) is no longer functioning in URXVT, Xterm, or Terminator... But is working in TTY. Anyone know why? stty -a shows ^C is my escape sequence. >>
[03:23] <Kapace> chuy_max, why do you hide your lspci from me?
[03:24] <exapid> Maybe he thinks you is a h4x0r XD
[03:24] <chuy_max> !paste
[03:24] <mdg> Stronze: I converted a PDF to text with pdftotext and started espeak from the command line to read it.
[03:25] <detonation> Last time I showed me lspci to someone I spent a night in jail, exapid.
[03:25] <chuy_max> Kapace, http://paste.ubuntu.com/260134/
[03:25] <Kapace> :D
[03:25] <Formode> chuy_Max, If you want to direct the bot towards something, append "| <user>" to the end.
[03:25] <Stronze> mdg - im gonna roll with this.ill just tweek it for now and wait for adobe to come out with better voices
[03:25] <Formode> Chuy_max, for example. !flash | Chuy_Max
[03:25] <Stronze> im tired and going to bed
[03:25] <Kapace> detonation, you showed who lspci?
[03:26] <mdg> Stronze: I think we have to "compile
[03:26] <Kapace> ... "i showed me lspci .. to someone"..
[03:26] <amseidler> I'm using an HP c7250. How do I print over wifi through Ubuntu?
[03:26] <Wicked> !3gp
[03:26] <mdg> Stronze: the voice we can and then we can pick it from the Acrobat settings.
[03:26] <MicronXD> When I run knoppix 5.1 on my desktop, and it tries to start xorg? (the gui) it fails once or twice, but then starts to work. With ubuntu, I can't get the gui started. is there anyway i can get the settings from knoppix, and change my ubuntu settings to work the same way?
[03:27] <veinor> Can anybody recommend me a netbook/ultra-small laptop that gets decent battery life and has good Ubuntu compatibility?
[03:27] <Stronze> msg - it lets you pick the driver from prefences
[03:27] <detonation> veinor, i'm currently typing to you from my 1000he by asus
[03:28] <LinuxGold> Googled for vmware install, followed instructions to change includes path, apt-get installed necessary files and still have this error:  Unable to build the vmmon module. (I am running ubuntu-server 9.04 64 bit
[03:28] <veinor> How's the speed? Enough to watch youtube?
[03:28] <Stronze> mdg - just cant figure out how to change that
[03:28] <MicronXD> Flannel: eek did I miss your response? I dno how to scroll up in irssi
[03:29] <LinuxGold> MicronXD: esc p to go up esc n to go down
[03:29] <chuy_max> Kapace, ctmjr, I have a nVidia Geforce 7000M, and the nvidia driver is not listed under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers as the wiki says. Any comments?
[03:29] <Flannel> MicronXD: page up ;)  or alt-p (pagedown or alt-n to o back down)
[03:29] <Flannel> MicronXD: and no, you didn't.
[03:29] <SuperMiguel>  whats the best way to add icons to fluxbox?
[03:29] <Flannel> MicronXD: But you've tried the Safe Graphics Mode on the liveCD?
[03:30] <MicronXD> Flannel: only thing I haven't tried x.X
[03:31] <webbb> dont know what im doing wrong but i cant install gimmie for the life of me
[03:31] <mdg> Stronze: ah, you can change the espeak default...
[03:31] <MicronXD> Flannel: I did safe graphics mode from the HD, normal from the HD, and normal from the live CD... none of em worked... never tried safe graphics mode from the Live CD
[03:32] <mdg> Stronze: /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/default
[03:32] <ctmjr> chuy_max: you can install from synaptic, nvidia's web site or use the nv open source driver i would go to nvidia's web site and see if they recommend a driver http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[03:32] <MicronXD> Flannel: but knoppix liveCD works in reg mode
[03:32] <MicronXD> regular*
[03:32] <Wicked> anyone/j #vlc
[03:32] <Wicked> whoops
[03:33] <Stronze> mdg - run that from term?
[03:34] <mdg> Stronze: no trying to modify it from terminal to change the voice - got permission denied - trying again.
[03:35] <SuperMiguel>  whats the best way to add desktop icons to fluxbox?
[03:36] <Stronze> mdg - i went to it thru the file system and it denied me also
[03:36] <mdg> Stronze: you have to use "sudo
[03:36] <mdg> "sudo"
[03:37] <Stronze> i mean i went to the folder without using terminal
[03:37] <Stronze> sudo gedit /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/default ?
[03:37] <mdg> acrobat is way memory intensive
[03:38] <meekatro1> i think you's should get a life
[03:38] <Stronze> mdg - i gedited from male to female but still that robotic male voice
[03:38] <lee__> Hello!
[03:39] <rhlin99> hello lee
[03:39] <LinuxGold> Googled for vmware install, followed instructions to change includes path, apt-get installed necessary files and still have this error:  Unable to build the vmmon module. (I am running ubuntu-server 9.04 64 bit
[03:39] <meekatro1> yeh you need a life too
[03:39] <mdg> Stronze: I added +f1 to the voice (makes it more feminine), but acrobat is not picking that up, however, espeak is using it as default
[03:40] <meekatro1> boring
[03:40] <meekatro1> yawn
[03:40] <gnubie> SuperMiguel; http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docbook/en/html/faq.html#AEN1111
[03:40] <meekatro1> ........
[03:40] <detonation> it's been a while since I've been on a dedicated leeenucks box, what's the most popular mp3 playing software out there right now?
[03:40] <Stronze> mdg - i gotz no clue
[03:40] <mdg> Stronze: pdftotext worked pretty good
[03:41] <meekatro1> miguel how can you be super it sucks
[03:41] <mdg> Stronze: takes a little bit of text manipulation for what you want to read, but... its doable
[03:41] <Stronze> mdg - most likely that will be a huge headache for what im trying to read
[03:42] <Stronze> mdg - im calling it a night.thanks for your help.seems i showed you something new also :P
[03:42] <mdg> Stronze: yes you did :)
[03:42] <mdg> Stronze:  have a great evening o/
[03:42] <Stronze> grr stupid pidgin and myspace.everytime someone changes their mood it fills an IM with html code
[03:42] <Stronze> night
[03:43] <mdg> Stronze: hang in there :)
[03:43] <MicronXD> Flannel: hope i didn't miss your response >.<
[03:43] <MicronXD> Flannel: page u doesn't work in OSX's terminal to scroll up in irssi
[03:43] <lee8989> Hello~
[03:44] <Flannel> MicronXD: alt-p and alt-n should
[03:44] <meekatro1> do you haf too be boring 2 chat or just a dick
[03:44] <MicronXD> π
[03:44] <dtownhero> how can I change my mouse cursor in ubuntu 9.04?
[03:44] <Critical_Threat> ok i have a quicky.. i have 7.10 and i changed the computer icon in gnome manually and then changed the icon theme. all the icons change now but the computer. how do i reset that so it goes with the theme ?
[03:45] <MicronXD> alt+p in OSX = *
[03:46] <chid> hello.
[03:46] <lee8989> hello
[03:46] <chid> Is there a program that would basically recursively copy files from one folder to another, and then check if they're the same?
[03:46] <chid> ls -R | .. cp -V ..
[03:46] <chid> :p
[03:46] <bptk421_> chid: rsync?
[03:46] <MadGirl> i think rsync is just made for that task.
[03:46] <zanberdo_> I am trying to understand why apache will not serve a symlinked path. I have installed apache 2.2 (from repo) on my ubuntu 9.04 workstation. The default configuration is to follow symlinks from /var/www.  However, when I create a symlink in /var/www and attempt to access it apache returns error 403.
[03:46] <webbb> has anyone in here hear of or used gimmie
[03:47] <chid> thanks. MadGirl
[03:47] <zanberdo_> the error log returns: "Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible"
[03:47] <zanberdo_> I have researched apache docs and I'm at a loss for what I may have over looked
[03:47] <zanberdo_> any help will be appreciated.
[03:47]  * Phrea helps zanberdo_ by not helping
[03:48] <zanberdo_> Phrea, um, what does that me?
[03:49] <avantix> hi people!
[03:49] <avantix> i need help with intel video driver
[03:50] <avantix> i have an intel 865g chipset
[03:50] <avantix> and it has no drivers for ubuntu 9.x?
[03:50] <MicronXD> When I run knoppix 5.1 on my desktop, and it tries to start xorg? (the gui) it fails once or twice, but then starts to work. With ubuntu, I can't get the gui started. is there anyway i can get the settings from knoppix, and change my ubuntu settings to work the same way?
[03:50] <avantix> i can't enable compiz effects
[03:51] <avantix> and when i debug video players they all says the same
[03:51] <avantix> BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[03:51] <avantix> what can i do?
[03:51] <avantix> i don't want to downgrade to older version
[03:52] <avantix> i have not 2d acceleration! all vesa support
[03:52] <avantix> its killing my machine
[03:52] <jikuty> this isn't an ubuntu-specific question, but is there a way to get gnome-do to add certain arguments when launching? for example, when i launch Chrome from gnome-do, i want it to launch like "chrome --enable-plugins" instead of just "chrome"
[03:52] <ejv> !enter | avantix
[03:53] <bing> Do someone know , how to install KDEnlive in Ubuntu ?
[03:53] <sub[t]rnl> avantix: what does 'glxinfo |grep render' show?
[03:54] <veinor> jikuty: launch alacarte and edit the menu from there
[03:54] <veinor> I think that's where gnome-do pulls its options
[03:54] <docX> hello
[03:54] <avantix> sub[t]rnl: direct rendering: yes -> openGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[03:55] <docX> hey!
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> avantix: it's falling back to software because DRI is disabled
[03:55] <avantix> that's right
[03:55] <avantix> dri is not enabled
[03:55] <dragon> I'm trying to setup bugzilla on Ubuntu 8.04 and checksetup.pl script is asking for Templates module, which I'm unable to install. Ideas?
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> avantix: I believe your intel card has a freeze issue with jaunty
[03:55] <sub[t]rnl> avantix: so DRI was disabled intentionally. :/
[03:56] <jikuty> veinor: hm, even after putting the right arguments in the menu shortcut, and re-starting gnome-do, it still seems to just launch "chrome"
[03:56] <sub[t]rnl> !intel | avantix
[03:56] <veinor> jikuty: really? hmm
[03:57] <avantix> sub[t]rnl, ubottu :( thank you! i will read those threads
[03:57] <zanberdo_> !symlink
[03:57] <zanberdo_> !apache2
[03:57] <zanberdo_> !apache
[03:59] <zanberdo_> seriously, I'd appreciate any help with this apache/symlink problem
[04:00] <oldude67> zanberdo_, you might try in #apache if you dont get help in here.
[04:01] <zanberdo_> #apache is not a useless channel that referred me to #httpd which I've tried and am bing ignored (sorry, don't mean to sound impetuous. I know support is free and it's community provided, I'm just getting damned frustrated, as I have this working on another machine and I can see no bloody difference.
[04:01] <anacaona> hello everyone. i'm using jaunty and after changing my password recently i get requests from various software (like gnome do) to access the keyring but no password works. i've tried to erase the default.keyring file but none exists. a google search hasn't been very fruitful either. anyone have any pointers, please?
[04:02] <Jyxt> so i just got a 2nd monitor, dual screens is nice
[04:02] <Jyxt> but how do i force an app to open on the 2nd monitor?
[04:02] <Jyxt> if i open a game, it goes fullscreen...i move mouse to the 2nd monitor and open app via right click menu...it opens onto first monitor
[04:04] <cornjuliox_> i get no sound when playing mp3s stored locally while i've got a youtube video open (buffering), is there any way to fix that?
[04:06] <docx> hello!
[04:06] <coreyman> I need help setting up my epson rx500 scanner
[04:08] <evon> Does anyone know how to drop an email bomb using linux? i really want to get back at the people sending me all this junk mail and scammers
[04:08] <TannerS> I try to installed ubuntu on my harddrive, excpet it did not detect my windows parrtiton so only agve me option to install over whole hard drive
[04:08] <Andrew_DC> did you install over the windows partion?
[04:09] <evon> TannerS: try creating the linux partitions manually
[04:09] <TannerS> evon, last time i tried tthat, it weiped out my windows i dont wanna risk it
[04:10] <coreyman> evon yea it's real easy click the I'm a linux hacker button and there are tons of options... A) Deploy Trojan B)Email Bomb C) DoS Attack etc.
[04:10] <kattman> Tanners: Gparted has allways been good to me
[04:10] <m0r0n> Can anyone help me install Beryl
[04:11] <evon> coreyman where is this button you speak of?
[04:11] <webbb> im looking for a better gnome panel does anyone know of a good alternative
[04:11] <TannerS> kattman, creat an ext3 parition, and hcoose that during install?
[04:11] <kattman> Tanners: yes
[04:11] <jjchmh> how do i switch from ubuntu back to windows?
[04:12] <m0r0n> jjchmh: Put the windows cd in, and reformat, then install
[04:12] <Flannel> jjchmh: Pop the windows CD in and install Windows.
[04:13] <m0r0n> Anyone know how to get Beryl to work?
[04:13] <TannerS> thanks kattman
 its compiz now
[04:13] <dthacker> hello.  I'm unable to change my screen resolution to higher that 640X480.   I'm using Nvidia drivers on Jaunty
[04:13] <TannerS> kattman will it creat the swap parition on the "wat they see as free space" or take part of the exxt2 partiiton to make it?
[04:14] <ramsey1> ok, this is some donkey status i am in, but i need some MBR help lol.  I have a machine with 3 physical HDD and ubuntu is installed on one of them,, i duno which one, and the MBR is on a different one, also I dont know which one
[04:14] <ramsey1> can somebody help me figure out which hdd has the install and which has the boot loader??
[04:14] <kattman> Tanners: it will create a swap for you
[04:14] <TannerS> kattman but for the swap were is the space its using comeing from?
[04:15] <jjchmh> yah but when i put the cd in nothing happens i cant do anything
[04:16] <kattman> Tanners: ubuntu will create it in free space as needed
[04:16] <Ten-Eight> jjcham: is your machine set to boot up on the cd?
[04:16] <webbb> can i use the kde panel in gnome
[04:17] <TannerS> kattman thats my problme, what if it thinks my windows partition, and thinks its free space then some whow messes it up or erases it
[04:17] <Ten-Eight> jjchmh: is your machine set to boot up on the cd?
[04:17] <kattman> tannerS did you resize windows partition?
[04:18] <TannerS> no
[04:18] <jjchmh> i only have ubuntu i do not have the cd to boot up ubuntu
[04:18] <ramsey1> i need help finding my MBR
[04:18] <Ten-Eight> you need to boot up on your windows cd...then you can install from there.
[04:18] <jjchmh> its my main os but i have to go back to school and i cant have ubuntu anymore
[04:18] <jjchmh> i did.. nothing happens
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> "can't"?
[04:19] <kattman> tannerS resize windows partition to givr room for ubuntu
[04:19] <tuntun> the only resolution option is 800*600.  Why cant I get 1280*1024?
[04:20] <TannerS> kattman i am going to do that so that free space is going to be free for both swap and ext3 or?
[04:20] <tuntun> Why cant I get 1280*1024?
[04:21] <Ten-Eight> jjchmh: so you booted up on the Win CD and you can't install it?
[04:21] <kattman> tannerS yes, ubuntu will mak the swap partition
[04:21] <TannerS> kkkk ty
[04:21] <LordBrain> Hey...
[04:21] <qousay> hello
[04:22] <LordBrain> I am trying to connect to a wireless network, and i keep seeing talk about a icon for network manager but i dont see one.
[04:22] <plaoak> re program it
[04:22] <tuntun> Why cant I get 1280*1024?
[04:22] <tsai1> Anybody have the Cowon S9?
[04:22] <Ten-Eight> jjchmh: if you boot up on the winders cd, you should be able to install from there. it's been so long since I've done it...but it should just start up the install routine.
[04:23] <tuntun> Why is Ubuntu limited to 800*600?
[04:23] <LordBrain> I don't have a Network Manager icon in my system notification area
[04:23] <m0r0n> llua: Have you got Compiz to work with the cube?
[04:23] <Ben64> tuntun: ubuntu isn't limited to 800x600
[04:23] <m0r0n> tuntun: It's not, something is wrong, what's your video card?
[04:24] <Ben64> tuntun: what happens if you try to run "glxgears"
[04:24] <dthacker> tuntun: at least you're not stuck at 640x480 like my machine
 yes
[04:24] <tuntun> I have an nvidia. my screen is 1280*1024
[04:24] <Ben64> !details
 you must enable desktop cube and rotate cube
[04:24] <m0r0n> llua: How exactly do you get that working? I checked it, now what?
[04:25] <m0r0n> I don't know the shortcuts
 enable rotate cube
[04:25] <m0r0n> llua: I have
[04:25] <Ben64> m0r0n: system -> prefs -> advanced desktop effects
 then hold alt ctrl, click your mouse, then move it around
[04:26] <tuntun> I am stuck at 800*600. What is wrong?
[04:26] <SuperMiguel> tuntun, video drivers :)
[04:26] <Ben64> tuntun: answer our questions or we can't help you
[04:26] <dthacker> I'm running 9.04 with proprietary Nvidia drivers and an NEC MultiSync 95.   The Nvidia configure utility will not change to a higher resolution.
[04:26] <m0r0n> llua: It's not working
[04:27] <Ben64> dthacker: what happens if you run "glxgears"?
 do you have 4 workstations?
[04:27] <Ingsoc> Please Help: I tried installing wicd on my netbook today and now after removing it nm-applet is gone. how do I fix this?
[04:27] <tuntun> Ben64: "glxgears" shows whirling gears/
[04:27] <dthacker> Ben: I get a lovely picture of spinning gears at a very low resolution
[04:28] <jacoblyles> I have no kernels left on my boot menu, after removing old ones with synaptic. How can I fix this? Right now I can only boot into Windows XP
[04:28] <LordBrain> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I'm using an account i just created using the root account.  I don't see any network manager icon. I'm trying to connect to my wireless network
[04:28] <luftwaffle> int bssid_set = 0;              /* check flag   */
[04:28] <luftwaffle> unsigned char bssid[6];         /* AP's BSSID   */
[04:28] <luftwaffle> int keyid  = 0;                 /* WEP KeyID    */
[04:28] <luftwaffle> / output filename is ESSID.keyid, eg aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff.0
[04:28] <luftwaffle> char output[20];
[04:28] <FloodBot2> luftwaffle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <luftwaffle> FILE *fc;
[04:28] <Phrea> bye
 do you have 4 workstations"desktops"?
[04:28] <Ben64> tuntun, dthacker: try using "nvidia-settings" to set display resolution
[04:29] <tuntun> the driver is the open one
[04:29] <m0r0n> llua: I can't get it to work, any ideas?
[04:29] <LordBrain> ifconfig says i have a wlan0, nm-tool reports that the network is there but state is disconnected
 do you have 4 workstations"desktops"?
[04:29] <dthacker> Ben64: Clicking on Screen 0  Resolution is set to Auto.  No other choices are available on the resolution dropdown
[04:29] <m0r0n> llua: Do I disable Desktop Wall?
[04:30] <llua> yes
[04:30] <m0r0n> llua: Ok I've done that also... hmm
[04:30] <Ben64> dthacker: go to "X Server Display Configuration" in nvidia-settings
[04:30] <tuntun> llua, two workspaces
[04:30] <Ben64> dthacker: then try "detect displays"
[04:30] <dthacker> Ben64: I'm there.
[04:30] <llua> you need 4 workspaces for it to ake a cube
[04:30] <llua> you need 4 workspaces for it to make* a cube
[04:31] <ritztech_> whats a good prog comparable to like FL studio (music editing)
[04:31] <m0r0n> llua: How do I do that?
[04:31] <jacoblyles> does anyone know how to boot into Ubuntu if I've accidentally removed all the kernels from my syste?
[04:31] <jacoblyles> m
[04:31] <jacoblyles> ?
[04:31] <Ben64> dthacker: the problem is *probably* that the system doesn't know what resolution your monitor can use
[04:31] <mgmuscari> hello room
[04:31] <ramsey1> i lost my damn mbr
[04:31] <dthacker> Ben64: screen jumps around a bit, but nothing changes.
[04:31] <evon> is it possible to create a live windows usb using linux? i tried using unetbootin but it did not work out too well
[04:31] <llua> right clikc of the two workspaces and right click
[04:31] <Ben64> jacoblyles: get a new kernel...
[04:31] <ramsey1> and i can't figure out which hd has my mbr on it
[04:31] <Ben64> dthacker: no new options for res?
[04:31] <ramsey1> somebody plz help me
[04:31] <coz_> guys is there a terminal command to delete recent document in gnome?
[04:32] <dthacker> Ben64: Auto, 640x480, 320x240
[04:32] <m0r0n> llua: I have four now, still not working
[04:32] <Ben64> dthacker: what's listed in the "Model:" section
[04:32] <mgmuscari> has anybody else had Shiretoko freeze on them when trying to print with shared printers from another system set up in jaunty?
[04:32] <canthus13> ramsey1: Here's a page that may help you:  http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
 hmm not sure, desktop cube and rotaton cube is checked?
[04:32] <ramsey1> thx
[04:32] <canthus13> ramsey1: I'm assuming that you are working from a LiveCD right now?
[04:33] <jikuty> veinor: i ended up solving that gnome-do problem by doing a "locate google-chrome.desktop" and changing the Exec command in all of them to read "google-chrome --enable-plugins". after restarting gnome-do it worked perfectly
[04:33] <veinor> ah, good to know
[04:33] <ramsey1> the problem is i have 3 HDD and i duno which has the actual install on
[04:33] <dthacker> Ben64: Model CRT-0 (CRT-0 on GPU-0)
[04:33] <canthus13> ramsey1: gparted will help you figure that out.
[04:33] <ramsey1> i know that the MBR and the install are on 2 separate HDD
[04:33] <ramsey1> but i can't figure which lol
[04:33] <mgmuscari> scratch that - has anyone else had setting up shared printers cause ALL printing to be borked?
[04:33] <Ben64> dthacker: what monitor do you actually have?
[04:34] <luftwaffle> #!comment: http://www.openwall.com/wordlists/
[04:34] <luftwaffle> #!comment:
[04:34] <luftwaffle> #!comment: This is a list of passwords most commonly seen on a set of Unix
[04:34] <luftwaffle> #!comment: systems in mid-1990's, sorted for decreasing number of occurrences
[04:34] <luftwaffle> #!comment: (that is, more common passwords are listed first).
[04:34] <FloodBot2> luftwaffle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <canthus13> ramsey1: But mostly it's just gonna take a bit of detective work. I've got a machine like that.  4 drives, 11 partitions.  Old school
[04:34] <luftwaffle> gotta make mah money im done now sry for the trouble
[04:34] <ramsey1> is there a command that tells me?
[04:35] <canthus13> ramsey1: Well, if you're booted from a liveCD, fire up gparted and look at the partitions.  It'll tell you the type.
[04:35] <newser> hello, how can I install a network printer in ubuntu using a router? I have the ethernet cable connected to the router
[04:35] <dthacker> belcher: it was free! :p
[04:35] <ramsey1> i'm on my laptop
[04:35] <ramsey1> but yes
[04:35] <ramsey1> the machine is on a live cd now
[04:35] <belcher> dthacker, even better
[04:35] <newser> I just need to configure the printer in ubuntu as a network printer, but I do not know how to do it
[04:35] <mgmuscari> newser:
[04:35] <canthus13> ramsey1: gparted (partition editor in system > Administration) will allow you to see what type each partition is.
[04:35] <mgmuscari> newser: i've just set up my printer on my desktop as a shared printer
[04:36] <ramsey1> ok i have gparted open
[04:36] <Ben64> dthacker: do you know how to get to a command line if the GUI never starts on ubuntu?
[04:36] <dthacker> Ben64: I
[04:36] <mgmuscari> newser: when i try to do anything with my printer from my laptop, whatever program i'm using freezes...
[04:36] <Ben64> O_o
[04:36] <canthus13> ramsey1: You can view each drive with the dropdown on the upper right.
[04:36] <ramsey1> in gparted it has them labeled as sdb1
[04:36] <dthacker> Ben64: I can ssh over from the machine I'm running xchat on.
[04:36] <sp__> Ben64, start in single-user mode
[04:36] <ramsey1> but i thought grub likes hd0 format
[04:36] <ramsey1> i'm confused
[04:37] <canthus13> ramsey1: Grub does.
[04:37] <sp__> ramsey1, they use different ways to address the drives
[04:37] <ramsey1> and it does have the "boot" flag
[04:37] <ramsey1> here is the problem
[04:37] <canthus13> ramsey1: So am I. :)  I hate dealing with grub.
[04:37] <homovitruvius> anybody has configured amanda on Ubuntu?
[04:37] <ramsey1> i have it pinned down to two of the drives, so i threw the third one out
[04:37] <canthus13> ramsey1: Since you have two machines, you might consider the supergrub CD.
[04:37] <newser> mgmuscari, :S
[04:37] <Ben64> dthacker: what resolution would you like to use?
[04:37] <ramsey1> Drive X: has the install on it
[04:37] <ramsey1> but Drive Y: appears to have the boot loader
[04:37] <ramsey1> when i boot without drive X, it shows the boot options, then dies when i select one
[04:38] <dthacker> Ben64: I'd settle for 1024x768
[04:38] <ramsey1> if i boot without drive Y:, it doesn't show any boot options
[04:38] <ramsey1> make sense?
[04:38] <ramsey1> i need to get the boot loader on the same drive (X) so i can remove the other two
[04:38] <ramsey1> thats where i'm stuck
[04:38] <Ben64> dthacker: ok, you will have to edit your xorg.conf, i highly suggest you make a backup before this
[04:38] <mralexandro> anyone who wants to tutor me/walktrough on how to prepare usb device for ubuntu remix?
[04:38] <mgmuscari> newser: i'm thinking about trying it with ipp
[04:39] <homovitruvius> bema
[04:39] <sp__> ramsey1, drive device numbers change when you add/remove drives
[04:39] <ramsey1> ok
[04:39] <canthus13> ramsey1: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ < Bootable grub repair CD.
[04:39] <ramsey1> that could be the problem?
[04:39] <newser> mgmuscari, do you know how can it be done?
[04:39] <sp__> perhaps use uuid?
[04:39] <dthacker> Ben64: ok I've made a copy of xorg.conf
[04:39] <mgmuscari> newser: i'm googling to figure it out now... i'll let you know if i find anything useful. what's your desktop running?
[04:39] <canthus13> ramsey1: I haven't had to use it in a long time, but I keep an updated copy on hand.
[04:39] <ramsey1> sholdn't i be able to add and remove drives as desired without it affecting my booint?
[04:39] <belcher> I accidentally fell in love with my laptop :(
[04:39] <sp__> use uuidgen and paste that number into grub... it identifies the drive
[04:40] <sp__> with an unique ID
[04:40] <newser> mgmuscari, what do you mean with running?
[04:40] <khacker> i found a strange file.. uhh can some one help me figure out what it is?
[04:40] <mgmuscari> newser: operating system, sorry
[04:40] <userone> In synaptic package manager I noticed there is ffmpeg (supported by canonical) and gstreamer-ffmpeg (not supported). I am using Totem player, so which package should I install?
[04:40] <ramsey1> is there a way to identify what hd0 and hd1 currently are on my system?
[04:40] <ramsey1> any command?
[04:41] <newser> mgmuscari, Ubuntu
[04:41] <dthacker> khacker: pastebin it
[04:41] <newser> mgmuscari, the latest stable version
[04:41] <sp__> ramsey1, cat /boot/grub/devicemap
[04:41] <mgmuscari> well, if you want to try out using shared printers, open system->admin->printing
[04:41] <khacker> do what now?
[04:41] <sp__> ramsey1, /boot/grub/device.map
[04:41] <Ben64> dthacker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/260145/
[04:41] <mgmuscari> then server->settings
[04:41] <Ben64> dthacker: keep the "identifier" line the same as whatever is in your xorg.conf currently
[04:42] <mgmuscari> check the "Publush shared printers connected to this system"
[04:42] <Ben64> dthacker: but replace the entire monitor section besides that
[04:42] <hardly> any way to keep from having the words "read only filesystem" from appearing in my terminal on 64bit Jaunty? I think I'm using ext4, but it says ext3 in /etc/fstab
[04:43] <Ben64> hardly: you might want to update fstab to say ext4
[04:43] <mgmuscari> newser: then right click on your printer and check "Shared"
[04:43] <Ben64> hardly: and give your drive a good fsck before you get back into using it
[04:43] <mgmuscari> on the client computer, open the print settings and check off "Show printers shared by other systems"
[04:44] <hardly> Ben64: I haven't edited it after the install. Wy aould it say that?
[04:44] <mgmuscari> then just wait a few minutes and your printer should show up...
[04:44] <Ben64> hardly: it's always been ext4?
[04:44] <hardly> yeah. I'm very familiar with fsck Ben64.
[04:44] <hardly> Ben64: unless I'm incorrect about the install options I chose.
[04:44] <dthacker> Ben64: editing now.......
[04:45] <hardly> Ben64: any way to check who is correct, me or fstab?
[04:45] <belcher> hardly, fsck doesn't like ppl to get too familiar with it. Take it slow. fsck will come around
[04:45] <Ben64> hardly: well anyway, check the partition then, if you didn't upgrade it to ext4, then it should be fine mounting as ext3
[04:46] <Ben64> hardly: it'd be kind of tricky, don't know of a way.
[04:46] <hardly> lol. so the mount options are basically what decides ext3 or 4... it seems.
[04:46] <dthacker> Ben64: I heard the monitor click on restart.  promising......
[04:47] <irb111> hi guys
[04:47] <irb111> i could use some help
[04:47] <Ben64> hardly: well ext4 does support "extents" if i remember correctly, and if they are enabled, you can't mount as ext3 anymore
[04:47] <mgmuscari> dthacker: what did you say that is? an accusync?
[04:47] <irb111> i used "smart" this afternoon to upgrade my java version from 1.4 to 1.6 and about halfway through it i got a segmentation fault error
[04:47] <Ben64> mgmuscari: nec multisync 95
[04:47] <sp__> irb !details
[04:47] <mgmuscari> lol
[04:47] <irb111> and now i can not reboot and log into my machine
[04:48] <dthacker> Ben64: excellent.  X restarted in 1024x768
[04:48] <mgmuscari> i had one of those
[04:48] <mgmuscari> it died
[04:48] <mgmuscari> a few months ago
[04:48] <mgmuscari> after 10 years of faithful service
[04:48] <dthacker> mgmuscari: NEC MultiSync 95
[04:48] <Ben64> dthacker: hehe, chalk up another win for hacks
[04:48] <sp__> irb111: can you log into single-user mode?
[04:48] <hardly> thanks Ben64
[04:48] <mgmuscari> one day i went to turn it on and was greeted with that wonderful burning electronics smell
[04:48] <irb111> sp: yes, i can
[04:48] <sp__> irb111: sudo apt-get purge xxx ?
[04:48] <Ben64> dthacker: i just modified the xorg.conf i had, horiz sync's dont vary too much :3
[04:49] <sp__> xxx being the program that broke?
[04:49] <mgmuscari> i don't tinker inside high-voltage devices, so i trashed it
[04:49] <irb111> sp: that's the problem, I don't know which program broke my system
[04:49] <Ben64> mgmuscari: smart idea
[04:49] <userone> is ffmpeg a separate player or a set of plugins for totem, or should i install gstreamer-ffmpeg for totem?
[04:49] <Ben64> theres one little wire on a crt that will **** you the **** up
[04:49] <irb111> sp: is there any way to get a list of what i installed today?
[04:49] <dthacker> Ben64: I don't think Nvidia was able to probe this monitor for some reason.
[04:49] <mgmuscari> the coils in those things can hold energy for a long time
[04:49] <mralexandro> do i have usb-imagewriter in ubuntu jaunty 9.04? :)
[04:49] <rww> userone: you want gstreamer-ffmpeg
[04:49] <irb111> sp: i was thinking > ls -lt /usr/local to start with
[04:50] <rww> userone: if you try to play something that needs it, you should get prompted to install it