[17:18] <wols> th0r: he said without software. and you need to be admin/root for it to work, even when truecrypt is only on the pendrive. no go
[17:18] <BluesKaj> tim_, sudo lshw -C sound
[17:18] <Oer> mechanist,  paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l "
[17:18] <koshie> iszak, for the directory
[17:18] <wols> iszak: look up scponly
[17:18] <koshie> don't autorize reading for other folder
[17:19] <Oer> mechanist,  paste in paste.ubuntu.com pls
[17:19] <koshie> It's 2 ou 3 easy thing to do, but sorry, I really don't remember >_<
[17:19] <koshie> +s
[17:19] <wols> koshie: and how do you suggest to do that?
[17:19] <wols> !info scponly
[17:19] <mutse> hello
[17:19] <koshie> wols, not to grant the user to see other directory.
[17:20] <wols> koshie: /usr is wrold readable if you haven't noticed :)
[17:20] <mechanist> Oer: let me boot with Ubuntu, then
[17:20] <koshie> wols, I've not understand sorry (not english)
[17:20] <tim_> BluesKaj:   It returns  ' PCI (sysfs)'
[17:20] <bullgard4_> I have installed Ubuntu Natty 64 bit on a new hard disk of a newly bought computer. I installed also a "testuser" account. '~$ grep video /etc/group; video:x:44:testuser'. Why am I no member of the video group, but testuser is a member?
[17:21] <ubuntu__> hi
[17:21] <ubuntu__> i have a doubt
[17:21] <ubuntu__> i am using an acer laptop
[17:21] <ubuntu__> model 4736zz
[17:21] <ubuntu__> model 4736z
[17:21] <wols> !enter > ubuntu__
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> nina_: the url contains your system and sound info we need to troubleshoot
[17:22] <pfifo> bullgard4_, cause the video group is somewhat useless, if you want to 'sudo adduser <username> <groupname>'
[17:22] <koshie> iszak, sorry if i'm not more precis but I think I gave you somes tips, search a little bit or ask on the forum and you will be do that easily and quickly
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: what is your doubt?
[17:23] <bullgard4_> pfifo: If the 'video' group is useless, why die Ubuntu add "testuser" to that group?
[17:23] <bullgard4_> s/die/did/
[17:24] <pfifo> bullgard4_, perhaps video wasnt created when the first user account was setup
[17:24] <tim_> BluesKaj:  Now if I go to Preferences and Sound it says "Waiting for Sound system to respond".  I'm going to trya restart...
[17:24] <Tweasy> BluesKaj: thanks a bunch for helping me out. I'm leaving to the gym right now, I'll be back l8r
[17:24] <BluesKaj> tim_, I should have mentioned the card will show beside , product : somekind of audio controller
[17:24] <ubuntu__> i have an acer laptop 4736z, and there are no nvidia drivers,etc still when i try the live disc the screen is blank actually the os is on but everything is blank or sometimes extremely dim..
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:25] <tim_> I'll be right back
[17:25] <bullgard4_> pfifo: I see your point. --  Thank you.
[17:26] <mechanist> Oer: what was the command? fdisk?
[17:26] <ubuntu__> i want to first try out with the live usb so where do i add this and is it possble to add in a live session and the logout and log in again..
[17:27] <zakwilson> Does anybody have suspend/resume working on a recent Thinkpad with 11.04 or an up-to-date kernel on 10.10?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nina_: run this big command: http://pastie.org/2087821
[17:27] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: Me.
[17:27] <jimms> hi all, i would like to install apache on my ubuntu, can you please help me, i have been googling
[17:27] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: what shud i do?
[17:27] <zakwilson> bullgard4_: which model?
[17:27] <wols> info apache2
[17:28] <wols> !info apache2
[17:28] <pankaj_sharma> !lamp
[17:28] <wols> jimms: apt-get install apache2
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: as I said, add the boot option. Some nvidia chips don't like nouveau on the CD
[17:28] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: I am speaking about Ubuntu 11.04 and Thinkpad T61.
[17:28] <jimms> apt-get command not found
[17:29] <wols> zakwilson: all TPs work fine, except the latest x20 maybe
[17:29] <mechanist> Oer: here's the fdisk -l content:
[17:29] <mechanist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628829/
[17:29] <zakwilson> bullgard4_: did you have to do anything to it, or did it just work?
[17:29] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: i don't have an nvidia chip ! and i can very easily run ubuntu 10.04 infact i have 10.04 installed and working fine
[17:30] <mechanist> someone can help me? a virus screwed my partitions in windows, and now I cannot acces to my data anymore via Ubunti
[17:30] <bullgard4_> zakwilson: It just worked and works. "Out of the box" so to say. I did no upgrade but a clean install. 64 bit.
[17:30] <wols> mechanist: can you boot your ubuntu?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: why fix it then?
[17:30] <mechanist> wols Im in live cd now, ubuntu
[17:30] <zakwilson> wols: They may work, but they don't all work trouble-free out of the box without tinkering. My W500 will not suspend, as of a kernel update to 10.10. I kept using the old kernel on 10.10 and hoped 11.04 would fix things. It did not.
[17:30] <wols> mechanist: that's not what I asked
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: you may need to boot option: nomodeset   if its a non-nvidia chip
[17:31] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: oh no i don't want to fix i just want to try 11.04 and its not working
[17:31] <wols> !fixmbr > mechanist
[17:31] <mechanist> wols I don't know what you mean; ubuntu loads in live cd, I have not installed it in the hard disk
[17:31] <tim_>  BluesKaj:  Restarted the system and still no soundcard found.  Any other suggestions?
[17:31] <jimms> guys what can i use instead of apt-get ? because that doesn't work
[17:31] <wols> mechanist: so you want to use ubuntu to do what?
[17:32] <ubuntu__> i tried nomodeset and it boots fine but in low graphics mode
[17:32] <mechanist> wols to recover my partitions.... interesting this fixmbr
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> jimms: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      Thanks
[17:32] <io> jimms: explain "doesn't work"
[17:32] <mechanist> wols: how can I use it?
[17:32] <wols> jimms: ls -l /usr/bin/apt-get
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: thats fine, get updated and it may help
[17:32] <mrdeb> why dont you log in with live usb and fix your paritions
[17:32] <BluesKaj> tim_, I should have mentioned the card will show beside , product : somekind of audio controller
[17:32] <wols> mechanist: we don't support windows here. ew don't know what things a windows virus does
[17:33] <jimms> wols: No such file or directory
[17:33] <ubuntu__> no i updated in live mode and then  log out and log in it doesn't work out..
[17:33] <BluesKaj> after doing lshw -C sound , tim_
[17:33] <mechanist> wols: ok let's talk of general data, not of windows anymore now. How can I recover those data? I can recover a NTFS partitions with this fixmbr command?
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: you can't. as I said: we support Ubuntu and troubleshoot ubuntu problems. NOT windows problems. if your data is gone, restore from backups
[17:34] <BluesKaj> gotta go...other stuff to do today
[17:34] <milamber> jimms: then something is very broken
[17:34] <jimms> io: apt-get command not found
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: I was under the assumption you ran ubuntu. for a ubuntu user this fixmbr factoid can help. it cannot help a windows user to recover data
[17:34] <mechanist> wols: I don't have any backup, unluckily, is there a way to fix the master boot record with ubuntu?
[17:34] <wols> mechanist: yes. as there is with a windows cd. the package "mbr" can do it
[17:34] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: update did not help i tried ..
[17:35] <itaylor57> jimms, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:35] <mechanist> wols: I AM running ubuntu, I am under ubuntu now
[17:35] <mechanist> live cd
[17:35] <wols> ubuntu__: have you tried the alternate installer to install ubuntu?
[17:35] <tim_> BluesKaj:  It says  'Warning: you should run this program as a super-user.  then the same thing 'CPUID' then PCI (sysfs)'
[17:35] <wols> !info mbr
[17:35] <mechanist> ok then I'll search some documentation about this fixmbr
[17:35] <io> jimms: can you open the package manager GUI?
[17:35] <wols> mechanist: this can write a default, windows compatible MBR in ubuntu
[17:35] <jimms> ah it's a redhat enterprise linux server releae 5.6
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: what video chip do you use?
[17:36] <wols> mechanist: fixmbr (at least the one in ubuntu) will NOT help you. AT ALL. it will make it worse
[17:36] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: intel GMA
[17:36] <io> jimms: then ask in redhat support, not ubuntu
[17:36] <milamber> jimms: we don't support redhat (they use yum, not apt)
[17:36] <jimms> io: and the rest ok thank you and sorry because i am in the wrong chan
[17:36] <jimms> ok i will join there
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: i'm not so good with those, can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga; lsb_release -d       Thanks
[17:37] <thevishy> i botched up my computer after I installed a window manager called
[17:37] <ubuntu__> wols: i haven't tried the alternate disc but i can install with live disc also but the problem remains that the os always boots in low graphics mode..
[17:37] <thevishy> xmonad ...
[17:38] <thevishy> has anyone had this problem with xmonad ?
[17:38] <io> jimms: their IRC channel is #redhat
[17:38] <wols> ubuntu__: you should check your Xorg.0.log then. also: do you use a sandy bridge CPU?
[17:38] <wols> thevishy: depends what you mean with "Botched up"
[17:38] <jimms> ok thanks
[17:38] <eb3ha4el> is there any difference except the pretty case between external HDD and normal HDD that you put in bareborn PC??
[17:38] <eddie> .
[17:38] <thevishy> wols : I just cant login to my user session anymore , I am not in recovery mode as root user
[17:38] <wols> eb3ha4el: ##hardware
[17:39] <wols> thevishy: what happens if you try to login?
[17:39] <eb3ha4el> wols: can you explain bit further?
[17:39] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:39] <thevishy> It hangs when I use my user name
[17:39] <wols> eb3ha4el: hardware questions are OT here. the channel for them is ##hardware.  /join ##hardware
[17:39] <eb3ha4el> wols: thanks
[17:39] <thevishy> you need to join #hardware eb3ha4el , here its different help
[17:40] <mrdeb> is it a good idea to avoid version 11.04 for a while since it is unstable and a first experiment with unity adn use the more mature 10.10
[17:40] <wols> thevishy: press ctrl+alt+f2, login and apt-get remove xmonad again. also check ~/.xsession-errors
[17:40] <eb3ha4el> thevishy: sure. thanks... I just tend to ask everything here...
[17:40] <wols> mrdeb: if you don't want 11.04 and use something more stable, use 10.04. it's called LTS for a reason
[17:41] <mrdeb> wols: lts performs lower than 10.10 so no thanks
[17:41] <ubuntu__> wols: i don;t have sandy bridge, i am using 10.04 and its working fine the problem is when i try ubuntu 11.04, infact i also tried fedora 15 the new version and i faced the same prob.
[17:41] <wols> ah, you have sns then
[17:41] <mrdeb> what is wrong with sandy bridge ubuntu__
[17:41] <wols> ubuntu__: then answer ActionParsnip
[17:42] <wols> mrdeb: support for its GMA chips is a bit iffy and unfinished
[17:42] <wols> to be expected, all linux distros have it to some degree. it's bleeding edge hardware after all
[17:43] <thevishy> is it possible to remove the users setting ?
[17:43] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: there's no problem with sandy bridge, the prob is with 11.04 ubuntu not working on my laptop acer 4736z,actually booting but with black screen
[17:43] <mrdeb> wols: so what is the safest intel graphics chips with graphics for ubuntu now
[17:43] <rype89> a quick question, if I were to download the ubuntu iso onto a usb stick, will i be able to do a uefi boot? or must I use a cd?
[17:43] <ubuntu__> wols: i don;t have sandy bridge..
[17:43] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: did you blacklist broadcom
[17:44] <tim_> I have no sound and no sound card listed.  I get this message when I reinstall alsa 'grep: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory' .  Is that a big problem?
[17:44] <wols> tim_: and what does lspci -nn say what soundcard you have?
[17:44] <mrdeb> rype89: you use usb creator to install the iso to usb
[17:44] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: i dont have broadcom, also how do i blacklist broadcom
[17:44] <tim_> lspci -nn
[17:44] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: ok, that causes blackscreen before boot sometimes. you do it in grub
[17:45] <rype89> mrdeb: yea i meant that. i will still be able to do a uefi boot from the usb drive right?
[17:45] <Udonnome> guys,how to get a mirc for ubuntu?
[17:45] <jnlsnl_> I have just created a new user, but the user dose't have permissions to mkdir in its own home directory
[17:45] <mrdeb> rype89: yes
[17:45] <jnlsnl_> the home directory is owned by the user
[17:45] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: can i try what u suggest in live mode?
[17:45] <rype89> alright thanks
[17:45] <mrdeb> ubuntu__: yes, if taht is the cause but you said you do not have bcom
[17:45] <milamber> rype89: uefi boot?
[17:45] <wols> jnlsnl_: id;ls -al .  in your home dir please
[17:46] <tim_> wols:  How do I show you the results?  I know I shouldn't just paste them in here.
[17:46] <ubuntu__> ActoionParsnip: what to do next
[17:46] <jnlsnl_> wols there are 3 hidden folders owned by my user
[17:47] <jnlsnl_> Im thinking that i need to add the user to some kind of default group ? =)
[17:47] <seidos> !paste | tim_
[17:47] <wols> !paste > tim
[17:47] <ubuntu__> wols: what to do next
[17:48] <wols> jnlsnl_: it's not what I asked. I gave you a clear command to type
[17:49] <wols> ubuntu__: it depends when your screen goes black. I told you to use the alternate installer, you didn't want to. but I don't care: it's not MY problem but yours. if you don't want to take suggestions, no skin off my back
[17:49] <thevishy> is it possible to change a user's X session proerpties
[17:49] <tim_> !paste | tim
[17:50] <jnlsnl_> wols http://pastebin.com/wxc02aAr
[17:50] <mrdeb> how would alternate install differe, wols
[17:50] <tim_> Here is the link:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/628836/
[17:50] <mrdeb> it doesnt from my experience
[17:50] <ubuntu__> wols: when i run the live usb and select try ubuntu till then everythig is visibel and after that everything is blackscreen
[17:51] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: i agree with u
[17:51] <wols> ubuntu__: so it looks like a X problem. check your Xorg log
[17:51] <ubuntu__> :)
[17:51] <ubuntu__> ok
[17:51] <mrdeb> try holding shift after selecting boot from usb to see what hlds it up
[17:51] <perlsyntax> How do  truemobile 1150 pc card to work in ubuntu?
[17:51] <wols> mrdeb: it lets you easier run/start without X and lets you troubleshoot X
[17:51] <perlsyntax> i hope i can get it to work
[17:52] <mrdeb> wols: yeah but that is not practical bec you have to install the whole system vs a few seconds to boot from usb
[17:52] <ubuntu__> mrdeb: how do i check my xorg log
[17:52] <eddie-128> d
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDell
[17:52] <wols> mrdeb: then you help him. have fun. good luck
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax: seems to be out of the box but can only connect to WEP
[17:52] <mrdeb> no
[17:53] <runmike> olá
[17:53] <mrdeb>  /part
[17:53] <ubuntu__> wols: how do i check xorg log
[17:53] <perlsyntax> nope,But i going to try 10.04.2
[17:53] <billy2007> hi im using the new ubuntu how would i get my webcam to work for chatroulette
[17:53] <ubuntu__> what command
[17:53] <yung_son> My desktop seems to be really laggy with this closed source graphics driver, even tho games run great. You guys got some support on this?
[17:53] <tim_> wols:  did I post that correctly?
[17:53] <perlsyntax> ActionParsnip,i not sure how to get it work in ubuntu.
[17:54] <perlsyntax> it work in ubuntu 9.10
[17:54] <ubuntu__> ActionParsnip: how do i check xorglog
[17:54] <wols> tim_: there is no soundcard listed at all.
[17:54] <ImDexter> how many ubuntu 11.04 users can connect and use icq at their site? I can se the applet, log in, but I cannot type any word, the keyboard does nothing
[17:54] <perlsyntax> ?
[17:54] <Udonnome> broadcom
[17:54] <tim_> wols:  I don't mean to be fresh but to all who are trying to help me - That's what I've been saying!
[17:54] <ubuntu__> wols: although there is no problem of x with ubuntu 10.04 then why with 11.04?
[17:55] <billy2007> hi im using the new ubuntu how would i get my webcam to work for chatroulette
[17:55] <tim_> wols:  The sound was working find until about 2 days ago then nothing...
[17:55] <Udonnome> guy how to find the broadcom drivers for my wifi
[17:55] <perlsyntax> anyone
[17:55] <pfifo> billy2007, make sure your webcam works with something else first, try installing 'cheese' or something
[17:55] <wols> tim_: well, when ubuntu doesn't see a soundcard it cannot use one. check your bios if you can enable the soundcard. the rest of your system looks bog standard so I'm very sure you have a AC97 soundcard somewhere
[17:56] <pfifo> !broadcom | Udonnome
[17:56] <yung_son> Why is my desktop so laggy
[17:56] <billy2007> it definatly works ive used cheese
[17:56] <ImDexter> can anyone suggest any general chat website?
[17:56] <david_> \join #ubuntu-fr
[17:56] <Udonnome> pfifo,you using broadcome?
[17:56] <nangie> what best blog for ubuntu
[17:56] <tim_> wols:  I do have a soundcard.  It worked until Wednesday.  I have the case open. It's there and seated properly.
[17:56] <nangie> what best blog for ubuntu ?
[17:56] <pfifo> billy2007, im pretty sure you have to configure flash to automatically allow all sites access to yor webcam, right click a flash video and select global settings
[17:56] <pfifo> Udonnome, yes
[17:57] <Udonnome> i saw that thing but i dont understand anyting
[17:57] <wols> tim_: lspci doesn't agree with you
[17:57] <thezman60> how do I change the channel
[17:57] <Udonnome> is there a page for more stupid ppl
[17:57] <billy2007> pfifo, ive got it working now i had to go to the new site thanks anyway!!
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> nangie: what do you really need?
[17:57] <wols> tim_: old hardware dies sometimes, but you are free to use any other linux distro or live CD and check if it shows up there in lspci.
[17:58] <ubuntu__> although there is no problem for my laptop running 10.04 why is it creating problem with 11.04(black screen from the very start, i.e after boot menu)
[17:58] <ubuntu__> wols: ?
[17:58] <tim_> wols: ok. Thanks for trying.
[17:58] <wols> ubuntu__: kernel mode setting for example
[17:58] <nangie> blog for ubntu
[17:58] <StevenR> Hi. What's the current standard desktop kernel on natty? (i.e. output of uname -rv and package name)... I'm not sure if I've got it back to where it should be. Thanks :)
[17:58] <nangie> blog for ubuntu
[17:58] <ubuntu__> wols: ok..
[17:58] <Udonnome> pfifo,can i pm you?
[17:59] <eliotn> why does Xchat automatically take me to this channel?
[17:59] <pfifo> Udonnome, no
[17:59] <eliotn> can I make it take me to a different one?
[17:59] <Udonnome> :(
[17:59] <pfifo> !pm | Udonnome
[17:59] <wols> StevenR: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[18:00] <pfifo> Udonnome, if its ubuntu support related, you can ask here, otherwise ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:01] <thezman60> # ubuntu-us-nh
[18:01] <Udonnome> is thiss offtopic?
[18:01] <StevenR> wols: I'm still not sure if what I've got is right though
[18:02] <wols> StevenR: dpkg -l |grep linux-image
[18:02] <tim> wols:  The last thing you said did it.  I don't know why it changed but I checked my bios and sound was set to off.  All set now.  Thanks
[18:03] <thezman60> ok what do I need to type to change channels
[18:03] <wols> thezman60: /join #channelname
[18:03] <erkan^> !drm
[18:03] <thezman60> ok thanks
[18:03] <erkan^> !moonlight
[18:03] <wols> thezman60: and edit your xchat configuration
[18:03] <ubuntu__> :(
[18:03] <pfifo> wols, * Cannot join #channelname (Channel is invite only).
[18:04] <wols> pfifo: don't be a smartass
[18:04] <ubuntu__> < . . >
[18:04] <bananstol> when i use -Dndiswrapper to run wpa_supplicant i get "unsupported driver." how do i fix this, do i have to recompile?
[18:04] <ubuntu__> | O O |
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: you must register then, then identify
[18:04] <tim> wols: now it sees the card but no sound.
[18:04] <StevenR> wols: but that still doesn't answer my question. There are lots of kernel packages installed, and more available to me. I asked "What's the current standard desktop kernel on natty?"
[18:05] <pfifo> im not ided
[18:05] <wols> StevenR: and I told you. if you don't want to read it's not my problem
[18:05] <Mobon1> alright
[18:05] <Mobon1> can anyone help?
[18:05] <ubuntu__> why's ubuntu 11.04 not working on my laptop ??
[18:06] <StevenR> wols: I have read. I don't understand how your answers answer my question.
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> not sure i cant see your laptop
[18:06] <mrdeb> StevenR: <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:06] <ubuntu__> can SOMEBUDDY HELLLP !!!
[18:06] <bananstol> O_o
[18:06] <thezman60> Im not sure how to do that wols Im really new to this
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> it works on my netbook
[18:06] <wols> StevenR: linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic, linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae depending on your hardware
[18:06] <twinkie_addict> 11.4 that is
[18:07] <bananstol> i had problems installing ubuntu on an old laptop, then i figured out why. i had removed the memory chip on an earlier occasion ¨
[18:07] <bananstol> ;o
[18:07] <Mobon1> i'm trying to install the latest ubuntu server onto my desktop, i get to the boot screen but if i choose any options it just hangs at a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the corner
[18:07] <wols> thezman60: what channel do you want to join?
[18:07] <compdoc> Mobon1, what kind of options?
[18:07] <ubuntu__> H E L P : (
[18:07] <mrdeb> sometimes it just doesnt work, so you can try latest of LTS
[18:07] <mrdeb> or
[18:07] <bananstol> lulz
[18:08] <thezman60> well i have a list and I want to be able to check the differnt channels out
[18:08] <Mobon1> like if i try to install or check the disc for errors
[18:08] <Mobon1> compdoc
[18:08] <wols> ubuntu__: yelling won't make us help you but ignore you. what I will do now I think. better people to help than such as you
[18:08] <Mobon1> don't know how to properly work this irc so bare with me
[18:08] <pfifo> Mobon1, how long have you waited, it takes a long time for an old computer to boot from CD (like 20 minutes)
[18:08] <wols> thezman60: write "/join <channelname you want to join>" without the quotes
[18:09] <Mobon1> i had it going for nearly 45 minutes
[18:09] <Mobon1> i have it on right now
[18:09] <compdoc> Mobon1, it was going? was the drive light flashing?
[18:09] <StevenR> wols: hmmm.. I seem to have 3 of those installed. The #42-Ubuntu refers to me running the kernel provided by the linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic             2.6.38-8.42
[18:09] <Mobon1> see but my friend had an older computer and it installed quite faster
[18:09] <StevenR> wols: package, right?
[18:09] <thezman60> ok I feel so lost with this whole thing but I want to be able to do it
[18:09] <gNewPower> I just upgraded to U11.04.  Did not like Unity at all. When back to GNOME (aka "Ubuntu Classic).  Now I don't see compiz any more.  Since compiz is now part of Unity, does that mean that it is not available for GNOME?
[18:09] <Mobon1> the drive light is NOT flashing
[18:09] <wols> Mobon1: try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#Disable_framebuffer_at_install_time
[18:09] <Mobon1> so i dunno what's wrong
[18:10] <wols> StevenR: dpkg -l |grep linux-image  pastebin the output
[18:10] <Mobon1> oh thanks wols i'll do that
[18:10] <mrdeb> gNewPower: unity is compiz plugin. compiz is there
[18:10] <udonnomeONu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:10] <gNewPower> mrdeb, where is the config menu for it then?
[18:10] <pfifo> !ccsm | gNewPower
[18:11] <StevenR> wols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628847/
[18:11] <mrdeb> gNewPower: it's not installed by default. you need to install two apps to get it to show up
[18:11] <gNewPower> thanks ubottu - I will try that!
[18:11] <Justfigureitout> am I the only one who didn't know that AIR was available on Linux before the announcement to kill it? Why didn't they promote AIR on Linux?
[18:12] <Mobon1> so i added vga=711
[18:12] <Mobon1> after the 'quiet --' bit
[18:12] <illmortal> anyone know how to get a Lynksis AE1000 (2870) installed onto Ubuntu? I think I installed it correctly but it doesn't pick up my 5Ghz wireless connection
[18:12] <Mobon1> in the boot options
[18:12] <wols> StevenR: pastebin your sources.list? looks like you had proposed updates or such
[18:12] <Mobon1> the drive light isn't showing any indication of working
[18:13] <wols> Mobon1: remove the "quiet" bit next time. that way you see what the kernel actually does
[18:13] <Mobon1> oh
[18:13] <Mobon1> RIGHT
[18:13] <Mobon1> it's not like a vga issue i don't think
[18:13] <Mobon1> or
[18:13] <Mobon1> graphics issue
[18:13] <Mobon1> the card is half decent
[18:13] <wols> !enter
[18:13] <bullgard4_> !enter | Mobon1
[18:14] <Mobon1> oh sorry ubottu, i'll try not to spam, just used to instant messaging like a moron
[18:15] <thezman60> hi everyone Im new to whole xchat  so I would like any advice  for useing it
[18:15] <StevenR> wols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628850/  I tried the server kernel to see if it would fix an issue, but it turned out to be something else that cause the problem. Now I'm trying to get back to the default desktop kernel
[18:15] <mrdeb> yes instant messaging or texting is bad for the mind
[18:15] <theadmin> thezman60: My advice: don't use it, use irssi xD
[18:16] <Mobon1> i removed the quiet option from the boot options. it's not doing anything.
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> thezman60: looks like you are pro
[18:16] <thezman60> lol not really this the frist time in these rooms
[18:16] <Nisstyre> yes
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> thezman60: use tab to complete user nicks is all I can advise really, its a pretty basic protocol
[18:16] <wols> StevenR: well, the <IP_ADDRESS>-22 is the one you want to boot. and you can remove all those old ones
[18:16] <theadmin> thezman60: Also register your nickname with nickserv
[18:16] <theadmin> !register > thezman60
[18:17] <thezman60> well what rooms/chennels
[18:17] <thezman60> I know how to move around after a few screw ups
[18:17] <theadmin> thezman60: We can't help you with that to be honest, nobody knows all channels
[18:17] <Mobon1> anyone want to help? there's no indication that the install is even doing anything
[18:18] <theadmin> thezman60: I stick around here, sometimes in #archlinux-offtopic
[18:18] <thezman60> ok thanks
[18:18] <balin_> hi there
[18:19] <balin_> en espa?ol?????????????????'
[18:19] <wols> !es
[18:19] <twinkie_addict> join ##linux
[18:20] <illmortal> anyone know how to install a Linksys AE1000 USB wireless adapter... used a tutorial last night.. have it showing on my network list, but it's shown as, "disconnected"
[18:20] <Mobon1> right it appears i've lost all attention to solve the issue
[18:20] <Vino> Why doesn't my new ubuntu install have all the nice vim features like the up/down button working in insert mode and auto complete and so on?
[18:20] <esc__> hello, is there a way to delay the alsa output? i want to "synchronize" an mpd stream and alsa output. mpd is configured to output to alsa and httpd.
[18:21] <wols> illmortal: check your kernel logs (anything about firmware for example) and check via iwconfig
[18:22] <illmortal> Ya I see my adapter on ra0 when I use iwconfig
[18:23] <illmortal> but bad status.... seems like it's disabled or something not sure
[18:23] <theadmin> Vino: You probably run it in Vi-compatible mode
[18:23] <theadmin> Vino: Try "set nocompatible" in your .vimrc and try again
[18:24] <Vino> thank you
[18:25] <theadmin> Vino: Did that work?
[18:26] <dougl> how do I install xbmc on ubuntu 10.10 -> err... why isn't it in synaptic package manager?
[18:27] <coz_> dougl,  you probably have to use a PPA
[18:27] <theadmin> dougl: https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ppa
[18:27] <StevenR> wols: ok, so I should have linux-image-generic installed, and it's dependencies... or the linux-image package?
[18:27] <coz_> dougl,     http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1364-install-xbmc-media-center-on-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-and-linuxmint-10-julia-ppa-repository
[18:28] <wols> StevenR: the linux-image package. so that the upgrades later work properly
[18:28] <illmortal> xbmc is awesome :D
[18:28] <dougl> coz_, k - thanks for... hey thanks alot for the info guys :)
[18:28] <StevenR> wols: thanks, lots of apt-work now to  :) (and to mrdeb)
[18:28] <theadmin> *sighs* Just why... ah whatever
[18:28] <StevenR> *too
[18:29] <StevenR> *sigh* my typing sucks today
[18:29] <theadmin> StevenR: Mine does all the time
[18:30] <dumdidum> hi
[18:34] <cronin> how do you run httpd -S on ubuntu?
[18:35] <grappr> Miami, FL
[18:36] <wols> cronin: run apache2
[18:36] <thunder1212> hi
[18:36] <thunder1212> any one using gnome3 ?
[18:37] <wols> thunder1212: ask your real question
[18:37] <cronin> wols: apache2 -S returns apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[18:37] <theadmin> thunder1212: Used to run it, why?
[18:38] <thunder1212> wanna use gnome 3, currently am usin'  gnome2 on 'buntu 10
[18:38] <thunder1212> theadmin
[18:38] <thunder1212> , wols
[18:38] <wols> cronin: well, apache needs to run as root, otherwise it cannot bind to port 80
[18:39] <theadmin> thunder1212: Don't use gnome3 then, it breaks many Ubuntu things and sucks
[18:39] <mrdeb> why does an application block all other sounds from playhing unless you change from alsa to sdl
[18:39] <ubuntuguy> How can I open my homefolder from terminal, what's the command?
[18:39] <wols> mrdeb: cause it opens the soundcard devicefile exclusively most probably. that's why we have sound daemons to use
[18:39] <mrdeb> gnome 3 is ok
[18:39] <mrdeb> it is incomplete but works
[18:39] <wols> ubuntuguy: "open" in what way
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuguy: nautilus $HOME
[18:40] <green91> ubuntuguy: cd ~/
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> thunder1212: note the words in capitals
[18:40] <ubuntuguy> ty Action, and eveyone else
[18:40] <mrdeb> wols: how do you make it not do that. what do you put in config instead of default
[18:41] <thunder1212> theadmin: u know what, to try gnome 3 i downloaded fedora 15, i even installed it on my desk, the interface was indeed very eycandy but it was not that fast  so i thoght i might just try it owt on 'buntu ; /
[18:42] <thunder1212> what words in capitals..
[18:42] <mrdeb> thunder1212: it is made for tablets like unity is, but works if you have no choice
[18:42] <cronin> wols: i switched to root and ran apache2 -S and got the same error
[18:42] <thunder1212> ok
[18:42] <wols> cronin: mybe try www-data? but I'm guessing, sorry
[18:43] <theadmin> thunder1212: It's slower on Ubuntu
[18:43] <theadmin> thunder1212: Use Arch if you want speed.
[18:44] <RPG-Master> Anyone here good with rsync/backintime?
[18:44]  * theadmin haz a system booting in 15 seconds on a netbook
[18:45] <RPG-Master> I've recently been getting this error with backintime: [E] Error: rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32)
[18:45] <RPG-Master> I have no clue what the gibberish means. :/
[18:46] <RPG-Master> Also, "[E] Error: rsync: write failed on "/media/Seagate GoFlex/backintime/matthew-desktop/matthew/1/new_snapshot/backup/home/matthew/Documents/Misc./Documents.7z": No space left on device (28)"
[18:46] <RPG-Master> It says I'm out of space, when I have 24gigs left!
[18:46] <Wisien> hi i need virtualization software what do u recommend
[18:46] <grappr> boaz: how do you like linode?
[18:47] <boaz> lost
[18:47] <boaz> *lots
[18:47] <boaz> lol
[18:47] <grappr> boaz: say bye
[18:47] <boaz> grappr: how did you know I use linode?
[18:47] <wols> Wisien: virtualbox probably
[18:47] <grappr> boaz: i'm going to hit your linode machine with hella ddos, i'll run up $5k in bandwidth costs for you in minutes
[18:48] <boaz> ?
[18:48] <illmortal> anyone know if this is possibly preventing me from fully installing my lynksis AE1000 usb adapter: sudo make install
[18:48] <thunder1212> theadmin ar yu sure that i must not uze gnome3 on 'buntu
[18:48] <illmortal> make -C /home/illmortal/Desktop/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v<IP_ADDRESS>/os/linux -f Makefile.6 install
[18:48] <andycc> boaz: just type "/whois boaz"
[18:48] <illmortal> mkdir: cannot create directory `/etc/Wireless': File exists
[18:48] <boaz> o
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: Do not, it breaks Unity and Gnome2
[18:48] <thunder1212> arch i have tried there's no gui there
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: And many gtk apps
[18:48] <gibran> help pls. The pages on my firefox we browser takes forever to load,i tried to install chrome browser thru ubuntu software center but it won't install
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: So what?
[18:48] <theadmin> thunder1212: pacman -S gnome
[18:48] <thunder1212> ok theadmin i take ur words..
[18:49] <wols> !ops grappr is threatening other users. < grappr> boaz: i'm going to hit your linode machine with hella ddos, i'll run up $5k in bandwidth costs for you in minutes
[18:49] <jnlsnl_> sometimes when I type "ll" in terminal I can see hidden folders and sometimes I can't, just wondering why?
[18:49] <thunder1212> pacman -S gnome will install gnoeme3
[18:49] <boaz> grappr: that's kind of a mean thing to say :(
[18:50] <mrdeb> wols: did you answer my qs about hw to fix the sound
[18:50] <thunder1212> before pacman how do i connect to internet on arch without GUI
[18:50] <thunder1212> theadmin,
[18:50] <wols> mrdeb: no. it depends on the application
[18:50] <andycc> thunder1212: #archlinux is the channel for asking that, I think
[18:50] <boaz> I guess the lesson is don't hang out in #ubuntu
[18:51] <boaz> that sucks
[18:51] <mrdeb> wols: there has to be a name to use instad of default ot tell it
[18:51] <mrdeb> i dont want ot use sdl, bec it uses more cpu power
[18:51] <mrdeb> thunder1212: read the wiki on ifconfig etc
[18:51] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, depends, which alias the account has defined
[18:51] <chanti> jhj
[18:51] <thunder1212> andycc , thnx andy cc byebye
[18:51] <rypervenche> thunder1212: wicd is nice.
[18:51] <edbian> I'm running gedit on xfce.  I can't edit any of the preferences.  Any ideas?
[18:52] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 where is it i can see alias? have forgotten :)
[18:52] <Ampelbein> edbian: any error message? anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[18:52] <wols> edbian: more info needed
[18:52] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, usually in $HOME/.bashrc
[18:52] <kakashi_> is there any deb package for installing hdiutils ?
[18:52] <kakashi_> or can it be ever installed
[18:52] <mrdeb> edbian: try leafpad
[18:52] <thunder1212> thnx mrdeb, will read wiki on ifconfig but i use a wireless modem to connect
[18:52] <edbian> Lots of gconf errors
[18:52] <wols> ,info hdiutils
[18:52] <edbian> mrdeb: I don't have leafpad and I can't install it because I don't have root! :(
[18:52] <mrdeb> edbian: no root?
[18:53] <edbian> mrdeb: no root
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 it says: ll = alias ll='ls -alF'
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> err alias ll='ls -alF'
[18:53] <jnlsnl_> should just be ls, if i dont want hidden folders right ?
[18:53] <edbian> lot's of errors: vailed to contact config server
[18:53] <edbian> Oh heck I'll just use gnome for now
[18:54] <thunder1212> will i be able to config my wireless modem on arch??
[18:54] <thunder1212> i wanna use gnome 3
[18:54] <thunder1212> ; )
[18:54] <chanti> how do one install a software in ubuntu pinguy remix
[18:54] <thunder1212> when's gnome 4 coming : : ) )
[18:54] <wols> thunder1212: #arch. not here
[18:54] <alvin_> is gnome3 out in the synaptic?
[18:54] <thunder1212> alvin: no
[18:55] <mrdeb> alvin_: gnome 3 is not ready for ubuntu
[18:55] <theadmin> thunder1212: #archlinux
[18:55] <rypervenche> thunder1212: #archlinux is very helpful with arch :)
[18:55] <alvin_> ouch, good i didn't upgrade into it :D
[18:55] <thunder1212> thnx all bye
[18:55] <wols> chanti: ask the pinguy folks, not us. we only support ubuntu proper
[18:56] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, the parameter "a" is for showing hidden files (with leading dot)
[18:56] <jnlsnl_> rumpe1 got i now, set the alias to ls -l and ill use ll -a when i need to see hidden, thanks :)
[18:57] <Wisien> anyone used or use Solaris here?
[18:57] <mrdeb> wols: well thanks for tips
[18:57] <ImDexter> im trying to install AA onto my 11.04. I get /home/dexter/.setup15604: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, that library is not in the repos, how do I find it?
[18:57] <ImDexter> libgtk-1.2.so.0
[18:57] <wols> ImDexter: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:57] <oCean> Wisien: do you have an ubuntu question?
[18:57] <rumpe1> jnlsnl_, you don't need the -a for ll
[18:59] <alvin_> if i will remove gnome what will be the appearance of my desktop after it?
[18:59] <DamnSoGooD> alvin_: why will you remove gnome?
[18:59] <ImDexter> packages.ubuntu.com, is there a finder?
[18:59] <Ampelbein> alvin_: that depends on what other desktop environment you have installed.
[18:59] <alvin_> i have kde installed
[19:00] <wols> ImDexter: yes there is
[19:00] <arooni-mobile> just bought a brand new t420 laptop.  has a 500 gb 7200 rpmhard drive. debating throwing ina 32gb ssd drive in pci express slot to run the OS off of (ubuntu) http://cgi.ebay.com/Wintec-Filemate-32GB-SolidGo-Express-Card-SSD-USB-PCIe-/370515672077?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item5644747c0d#ht_2937wt_1169  ...thoughts?
[19:00] <Ampelbein> alvin_: then your desktop will look like kde.
[19:00] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: 1.2 is a very old version of libgtk.
[19:01] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: where did you get the package that needs it from?
[19:01] <wols> arooni-mobile: bad idea
[19:02] <alvin_> if i will also remove kde, will there be a desktop gui ?
[19:02] <arooni-mobile> wols, why?
[19:02] <wols> arooni-mobile: cause it's a PCI Expresscard when your T420 has IIRC 3 Mini PCIE slots. 1 or 2 of them free
[19:02] <wols> arooni-mobile: get a msata ssh
[19:02] <Ampelbein> alvin_: if you have another desktop environment yes.
[19:02] <wols> *msata ssd
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, isnt that external?
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, v
[19:03] <ImDexter> ampelbein, Im trying to install america's army 2.5.0
[19:03] <wols> arooni-mobile: no. your express card is external: it sticks out of the case. a miniPCIE is like your wlan card. built in
[19:03] <arooni-mobile> wols, http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/Laptops/ThinkPad/t-series/t420/index.html
[19:04] <wols> arooni-mobile: I know what a T420 is
[19:04] <ImDexter> ampelbeim im trying to install AA onto my 11.04. I get /home/dexter/.setup15604: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, that library is not in the repos, how do I find it?
[19:04] <arooni-mobile> wols, :) ok
[19:04] <arooni-mobile> wols, but if i found a minipciexpress what douthink
[19:05] <wols> arooni-mobile: what is there to think about? either you want a ssd or no. am I supposed to admire your epeen or what?
[19:05] <Ampelbein> ImDexter: that version is more than 5 years old and installing that old libraries isn't supported.
[19:06] <wols> !info libgtk1.2
[19:06] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 11.04 and when I did the install froze then I logged on and the / wouldnt mount so I manually mounted it and dkpg --configure -a to finish the install but it hung up on winbind. I restarted and 11.04 booted however now when I leave the computer running over 4 hours without activity the ubuntu doesnt respond
[19:07] <Ampelbein> wols: last release with libgtk1.2 was hardy.
[19:08] <dougl> what is the command to start xbmc on my other display... "DISPLAY 0:1" xbmc or something like that?
[19:09] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: HOw do I completely remove gnome from ubuntu?
[19:09] <Ampelbein> dougl: DISPLAY=:0.1 xbmc
[19:09] <dougl> Ampelbein,  - that is it thanks for the info :)
[19:10] <[snake]> i made an ubuntu 11.04 usb with unetbootin, and it comes up boot error at the bios.
[19:10] <arooni-mobile> wols, i missed what you might have said after i said whatdo youthink...my internet connection here sucks
[19:10] <pfifo> thauriswulfa, you would really want to do a cli install insted, it would be much quicker
[19:11] <wols>  < wols> arooni-mobile: what is there to think about? either you want a ssd or no. am I supposed to admire your epeen or what?
[19:11] <thauriswulfa> pfifo: what is cli install?
[19:11] <arooni-mobile> wols, i just dont know if its a smart thing to do
[19:11] <pfifo> thauriswulfa, use the mini.iso or the alternate install, and at the bootsplash, type 'cli<enter>'
[19:12] <wols> arooni-mobile: ask ##hardware. it's not a ubuntu related question
[19:13] <rafal_> test
[19:13] <ImDexter> has anyone installed this? http://commanderstalin.sourceforge.net/
[19:13] <[snake]> i will try ubuntu startup disk creator instead
[19:13] <[snake]> rafal_, you faile
[19:13] <[snake]> d
[19:13] <gNewPower> Hi,  Can I get applets in the top panel in Unity?  I miss my CPU monitoring applet
[19:14]  * gNewPower is away: Я временно ушел
[19:14]  * gNewPower is back (gone 00:00:04)
[19:14] <pfifo> whats the best way to upgrade from lucid to squeeze?
[19:14] <kezzawd> hi all
[19:14] <oCean> gNewPower: please disable announcing away/back
[19:14] <wols> pfifo: you cannot do that
[19:14] <kezzawd> pfifo two separate ditros
[19:14] <gNewPower> oCean, my bad, sorry
[19:15] <pfifo> wols, should i goto natty first?
[19:15] <IdleOne> gNewPower: look up indicator-system-monitor I believe it is called. there is a PPA
[19:15] <gNewPower> what is a PPA? (sorry)
[19:15] <wols> pfifo: you cannot upgrade from ubuntu to debian
[19:15] <IdleOne> !ppa
[19:15] <Ampelbein> pfifo: you can't switch from ubuntu to debian or vice versa.
[19:16] <pfifo> but say I wanted to anyway...
[19:16] <oCean> pfifo: you will fail
[19:16] <rypervenche> pfifo: Then you install Debian over Ubuntu.
[19:16] <wols> pfifo: then neither #ubuntu nor #debian will support you in any way
[19:17] <gNewPower> is it safe to fully remove Ubuntuone from U11.04
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: if you want squeeze, download squeeze and install it fresh. Remove Ubuntu first
[19:17] <Ampelbein> gNewPower: usually yes.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: yes its one of the first things I do
[19:17] <gNewPower> usually?
[19:17] <kezzawd> pfifo are you looking to move from ubuntu to debian and retain your personal files ?
[19:17] <pfifo> couldn't i jusr sed -i sources.lis and replace it with debian repos, then apt-get {update. upgrade}
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: its fine, pull it out if you don't use it
[19:17] <gNewPower> ActionParsnip, via synaptic?
[19:18] <oCean> pfifo: no
[19:18] <rypervenche> pfifo: No, because it wouldn't work.
[19:18] <Jordan_U> pfifo: No.
[19:18] <IdleOne> pfifo: no you can't. it will break everything
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> gNewPower: however you wish
[19:18] <gNewPower> k thanks
[19:19] <Travis-42> The sshd_config says that you should consider using a non-standard port and says that "one above 1024 is preferable" Why?
[19:20] <dr_willis_> below 1024 is normally reserved
[19:20] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  i have an Acer 5552 but it shuts down by itself quite often.  This happened two to three times when watching a movie!  It is very frustrating!  Can somebody help me please?
[19:20] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, but if it's above 1024, users other than root can listen on the port, which would seem to be less than secure
[19:20] <IdleOne> LABcrab: over heating perhaps
[19:21] <kezzawd> Travis-42: And you should use a non-standard port particularly if you are expecting to connect to your machine remotely
[19:21] <rypervenche> LABcrab: I would think overheating. I had the exact same problem. I had to update my BIOS, because my old one wasn't reading the temperature correctly, and the fan wouldn't turn on because of it.
[19:21] <dr_willis_> Travis-42,  i think that statement is incorrect
[19:21] <rypervenche> LABcrab: I can the same problem with an Acer*
[19:22] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, at least traditionally, only root can listen to ports below 1024. is it different now?
[19:22] <dr_willis_> i think the term 'root listen' may not be right..
[19:23] <dr_willis_> normally only root user can start services that are below 1024
[19:23] <wols> Travis-42: only root can bind to ports <1024
[19:23] <wols> Travis-42: this is still the case
[19:23] <dr_willis_> bind thats the term
[19:23] <Travis-42> dr_willis_, right, so if you use a port above 1024 for ssh, then a non-root user could create a service at the same port, and possibly steal your password if you're not using private keys
[19:24] <rypervenche> Travis-42: I use 20022 for my SSH. It doesn't really matter what you use.
[19:24] <crayon> hi everyone i am using ubuntu 11.4, i tried to update my gnome 2 desktop to gnome 3, after updating packages my unity also got disturbed. help me, i m unable to login
[19:24] <dr_willis_> Travis-42,  i dont think so.  but an attacker would always scan the low 1024first
[19:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 11.04 and when I did the install froze then I logged on and the / wouldnt mount so I manually mounted it and dkpg --configure -a to finish the install but it hung up on winbind. I restarted and 11.04 booted however now when I leave the computer running over 4 hours without activity the ubuntu doesnt respond... suggestions?
[19:24] <milen8204> how to change font of .str file on Ubuntu 11.04
[19:25] <Travis-42> rypervenche, a non-root user, perhaps a hacked one, could crash sshd and replace it with a proxy, if the port is > 1024
[19:26] <Travis-42> if there are no other users, maybe it's not an issue
[19:26] <LABcrab> rypervenche: Like i did on the 5315?  Ugh... why the need for BIOS updates?  IdleOne: Yeah, it's Idle all right... it turns on and off!  ;)
[19:29] <rhin0> what would be causing  a problem with 11.04 (and 10.04) on a dell inspiron laptop where the mouse cursor freezes as soon as you have logged in but the rest of the system is running fine -- have just had to re-install
[19:29] <rhin0> mouse cursor just locks up
[19:30] <rhin0> has heppened after a week or so of no problems with 11.04
[19:30] <dr_willis_> tried an external mouse?  that would narrow it down to a touchpad, or usb issue
[19:30] <rhin0> ah ok
[19:30] <LABcrab> All right, i'm outta here.  Thanks, and see you later!
[19:31] <dr_willis_> mouse is ok on the GDM login screen rhin0 ? but not once the user logs in? that would point to some odd compiz/mouse setting issue.
[19:31] <rhin0> maybe I disable compiz -- how would you do that
[19:31] <rhin0> not interested in desktop special effects
[19:31] <dr_willis_> rhin0,  as a test you could install say.. 'icewm' and see if the issue affects other window managers.
[19:32] <dr_willis_> if it affects them all. then it wouldent be a compiz/gnome specific issue.
[19:32] <mrdeb> dr_willis_: is icewm easy
[19:32] <dr_willis_> icewm is trivially easy... :)
[19:32] <dr_willis_> old-skool
[19:32] <dr_willis_> !info icewm
[19:33] <mrdeb> ok nice
[19:33] <dr_willis_> icewm is just a window manager. I always keep it handy for a 'backup' window maanger.
[19:33] <rhin0> right I wait until it happens again if it happens again then deselect current window manager/compiz
[19:33] <dr_willis_> good for when i vnc into a box.
[19:33] <dr_willis_> rhin0,  so it only happens sometimes? thats even weirder..
[19:34] <rhin0> happened at 5am this morning after a week of use
[19:34] <dr_willis_> You mean a week of UPTIME ?
[19:34] <rhin0> no
[19:36] <Goliath> hey
[19:37] <wonka_> Dr_Willis?
[19:37] <Goliath> hey where is syslog.conf in ubuntu?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> wonka_, ?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> ~$ locate syslog.conf
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> /etc/rsyslog.conf
[19:38] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: it got renamed?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> if syslog got replaced by rsyslog that would make sence...
[19:39] <d-_-b> hey
[19:39] <tonyyarusso> Goliath: There are multiple syslog daemons.  Ubuntu uses rsyslog.
[19:39] <oCean> Goliath: there is still a syslog.conf in package sysklogd
[19:39] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/doc/sudo/sample.syslog.conf
[19:39] <d-_-b> Guys, for some reason with y new system build, moving things around n the desktop is really laggy.
[19:39] <d-_-b> games run great tho
[19:40] <Goliath> oCean: ok
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> !info rsyslog
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> its  'important'   :)
[19:41] <oCean> Dr_Willis: hey, you spelled that correctly :)
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> cut/paste
[19:41] <tonyyarusso> He missed the apostrophe in "it's" though.  :(
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> Now heres an interesting bug.... every so often in unity my launcher icons, and top menu bar gets messed up graphics,  The programs i have running are fine. title bar text and so forth are find
[19:42] <tonyyarusso> here's
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> but Unity seems to have just had a brain freeze.. it works but   the icon/text is all garbled
[19:43] <DamnSoGooD> what app can convert a file to ISO?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  you can make a data disk/iso with most of the cd burning apps. k3b. gcombust, and others
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> !burn
[19:44] <DamnSoGooD> no, i will not burn it, i will just convert a file to .iso format
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  that dosent make sence. clarify what the file is to begin with
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> You can gerneate an iso with those tools.. you dont have to burn it.
[19:45] <tonyyarusso> sense
[19:45] <Goliath> PEOPLE FIX KNETWORKMANAGER. IT SHOWS NO WIRELESS NETWORKS. I HAD TO SWITCH TO WICD OR CONNECT FROM CLI. THANKS
[19:45] <tonyyarusso> doesn't
[19:45] <Firstmate> I'm installing Ubuntu, however on the "Install" step. It does not provide the option to install alongside Windows 7
[19:45] <DamnSoGooD> ah see, thank you doc
[19:45] <Firstmate> Any help?
[19:45] <Goliath> tell kde please
[19:46]  * Dr_Willis hands tonyyarusso  a live.
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[19:46]  * Goliath squirts
[19:46] <tonyyarusso> A live what?  Fish?  Monkey?
[19:46] <oCean> Goliath: you can log bugs in launchpad, not here
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  check your disk parittion layout...
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  if you have 4 primary partitions - you will need to do some work befor you can install.
[19:46] <Firstmate> Check what specfically?
[19:46] <Firstmate> I see.
[19:46] <Firstmate> Yeah I have 4
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  outout of 'sudo fdisk -l' for starters.  or gparted
[19:47] <DamnSoGooD> Dr_Willis: does bradero can? or aptoncd?
[19:47] <DamnSoGooD> brasero*
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> i seen way to many windows  installs that use 4 primary parittions.
[19:47] <Firstmate> outout?
[19:47] <Firstmate> Yeah, silly HP adds a few
[19:47] <Firstmate> Meh, I'll be back later.
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  why are you even trying to do this exactly? what do you plan on doing with the ISO?
[19:47] <Firstmate> gotta head out for a bit
[19:48] <neotohin> #codeigniter
[19:48] <laza> How do I quickly get a list of all packages that are removed but still configured (rc). I could use dpkg -l, grep, sed. Is there something easier?
[19:48] <d-_-b> Moving things around is really laggy on my desktop for some reason,
[19:48] <DamnSoGooD> i will use in vbox, i will mount it as a cd because i don't know how to use the shared folder :D
[19:48] <ssheriffe> hi
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  shared folders in vbox are rather easy to use.. you just use the proper mount command - im not even sure if you need to install the guest addations any more
[19:49] <mrdeb> is icewm not being developed
[19:49] <mrdeb> last time was last year
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  or just install ssh tools on the host and guest and transfer files over the network. or use samba.
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  its been around for proberly 10+ years also.
[19:49] <Jake1> hey room in ubuntu 11.04 my mouse doesn't seem to click in the correct spot or something strange
[19:49] <DamnSoGooD> i have vnox-ose, so how can i mount my shared folder to vbox? i have in there XP :D
[19:50] <DamnSoGooD> vbox-ose*
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> DamnSoGooD,  whats the guest OS?
[19:50] <DamnSoGooD> winXP
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> the vbox docs give the exact commands/syntax to use i recall.
[19:50] <mrdeb> so its ok to install it
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  why wouldent it be? :)
[19:50] <wonka_> you mouuse is clicking to you?
[19:51] <mrdeb> support
[19:51] <Jake1> NOOOO like  sometimes when i goto press file and other things it won't let me
[19:51] <Jake1> there cursor is over it but the click won't work
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  what sort of support are you looking for?
[19:52] <Jake1> its like its an entire line off of wher eit should be
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> they have an irc channel and mailing list.
[19:52] <backbox> HE110
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine anything you want to learn about icewm is in its docs or forum posts.
[19:54] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: if its ok, i will try it
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> its just a window manager..  its not like its going to blow up your pc...
[19:55] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: just being careful
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> I imagine thers less bugs in icewm, then there is in compiz :)
[19:55] <mrdeb> oh yes
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> its not like its xmms, or bitchx :)
[19:55] <FishFace> Shadows around application windows. 11.04. How to get rid of this?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> FishFace,  that wiould be a compiz setting,  you can uise the 'ccsm' tool.
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[19:56] <safiyyah> I have a broken machine with an initramfs error. It happened previously 2 days ago, but in the middle of a diagnosis it resolved itself. Today, the system froze so I shut it down using the power button, and on reboot, I got the initramfs error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/628040/ when I tried to use the shift key at boot up to It wouldn't go into the menu and I got a kernel panic error message:...
[19:56] <FishFace> Dr_Willis: Thanks bud :)
[19:56] <safiyyah> ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/628888/
[20:03] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: so icewm has a panel and such. what differs it from xfce
[20:03] <Firstmate> So I have a partition called HP Tools, but I long ago reinstalled a fresh Win7.
[20:04] <Firstmate> Think it's safe to remove that HP TOols partition
[20:04] <Firstmate> ?
[20:04] <Firstmate> I know that wasn't a ubuntu quest, but I figured it was an easy quest.
[20:05] <Freakish> hmmm L1nuxRules, thanks for that wonderful experience yesterday...
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm had it about 10 yrs befor xfce existed...
[20:05] <Freakish> <----- davet
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> if not more.. :)
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm is a window maanger.. xfce is a desktop
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  its gotten where when i get a  new machine. I get a new hard drive and clone the  included HD to it.. and keep  the original as a 'backup' on a shelf. :)   its amazing how complex these partiton layouts can be on these things
[20:07] <netspy> need to access my modem through the console. help needed on howto
[20:07] <Freakish> Does anyone here have experience working with the latest version of VirtualBox?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Firstmate,  you could clone it to a file via dd and keep a copy somewhere safe.
[20:08] <rypervenche> Freakish: latest as in?
[20:08] <Firstmate> hm.
[20:08] <wols> Freakish: ask your real question
[20:08] <Firstmate> Meh
[20:08] <Firstmate> I'll just remove the HP_Recovery one
[20:09] <Freakish> the VirtualBox 4.0.8 version
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> Ok. heres a 'test'  - using Unity,  and chromium browser, or google chrome, go to the  url ->   http://chrome.angrybirds.com/      - here  the unity panel gets all messed up when i mouse into/out of the briowser window. I have to fix it with 'unity --replace'
[20:09] <Firstmate> It won't work anyways since the HP recovery program got removed XD
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> it seems to do it every time
[20:09] <aureianimus> Firstmate, i think hp provides something for that
[20:09] <wols> !anyone > Freakish
[20:09] <Firstmate> aureianimus: for what?
[20:09] <aureianimus> for making the recovery + removing the partition
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> HP proberly has some tool to make a backup/restore dvd set
[20:09] <Freakish> I'm running Natty 11.04, and I'm working on setting up a Mac OS X Snow Leopard VM
[20:09] <Firstmate> Yeah they do
[20:10] <Firstmate> But I can always get a different backup utility.
[20:10] <Freakish> And I was wondering if any of you have tried the same
[20:10] <Freakish> I've followed guide after guide with nothing.
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,   Not really ubuntu related. :) and i think technically not 'legal' either.  ive never gotten it to work either.
[20:11] <netspy> have googled, can't figure how to access the console port of my modem using a console cable
[20:11] <Freakish> It's legal, I bought my .dmg via the Mac website
[20:11] <hiexpo> my  ? is  i already have my terminal settup so if i use ls it will show differant colors for the items  but how could i make it so saywhen downloading the output would have differant colors
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  i think their EULA says it can only be used on real apple hardware..
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo,  downloading via wget or what?
[20:12] <Freakish> Ah, screw 'em.... but at least you didn't send me an evil command :P
[20:13] <hiexpo> Dr_Willis, yes and like updates etc
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo,  theres various 'log/text' colorizer tools in the repos. but it may take some work.
[20:13] <Freakish> Someone with the handle L1nuxRules sent me a very, very wicked command to use, and me being a n00b to Linux, I typed it in without checking on it's usage.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> !info color-tail
[20:13] <mrdeb> Dr_Willis: do i need anything else besides installing icewm to move in it
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> !info colortail
[20:13] <wols> Dr_Willis: like windows where "downloaded files" are treated different
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> mrdeb,  icewm is just a nice simple window manager.. should be trivial to figure out.
[20:13] <mrdeb> thanks
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> i used to use icewm in vnc all the time. years ago.
[20:15] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:15] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: On to my next question though, which is entirely Natty Narwhal... I'm looking to upgrade my BIOS, and all I can get from Toshiba support is an .EXE that won't execute properly with WINE. Any ideas?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  if its a dos executable - use a freedos live cd
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  if its a self-extracting archive. with some special window exe's in it. You will have to use windows of some kind i imagine
[20:17] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: It has an extractable iso that should do the job, but I don't have any CD's handy a.t.m. Are there any Bootable USB solutions through Ubuntu that might do the trick?
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  it would totally depend on the  os on the iso.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> Freakish,  try unetbootin i guess.
[20:19] <Freakish> @Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll see what I can do with it. Thanks!
[20:20] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:20] <wols> one can boot a ISO from grub/grub2
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> wols,  dending on the ISO file. yes..
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> depending
[20:20] <gerson> ola
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux site has some tools for setting up multi-boot USB's that use grub2 and iso files
[20:20] <oCean> !br | gerson
[20:21] <gerson> na proxima verçao voces vao colocar ubuntu sem efeitos
[20:21] <awallin> any guides on how to install/test the ekopath compiler out there? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pathscale_ekopath4_open&num=1
[20:21] <DrSlony> Help, I'm using a 64 bit ubuntu to compile my program, but someone who uses a 32 bit ubuntu would like a binary, can I compile a 32 bit binary on a 64 bit machine?
[20:22] <nerdshell> how to assign a specific ip adress to an alias , e.g 217.293.117.145 will be Myhomeserver, ?
[20:22] <awallin> DrSlony: vn with 32-bit install comes to mind...
[20:22] <awallin> DrSlony: vm :)
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> I think you can do it without a vm. but ive never needed tod o so.
[20:23] <gerson> voces vao tiar ubuntu sem efeitos  na procima verçao
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> 'cross compile'   is the term used I belive
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  one way. edit your /etc/hosts file
[20:24] <wonka_> se voce quiser nos tiramos
[20:24] <pfifo> DrSlony, no cross tools need, just add -m32 to your options
[20:24] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks, now can you give me some help to make my server send me his ip adresse by mail, each time it reconnects to the internet ?
[20:24] <oCean> DrSlony: I think gcc takes the -m32 argument to compile in 32bit mode
[20:24] <wonka_> gmail comes to my mind
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,   thats what people normally use  the 'dyndns' service for.
[20:25] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: I don't really get it, could you explain further please ?
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  i can make my home machine always be at 'drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org'
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  go read up at dyndns.org
[20:25] <spacebug-> Hello! I have problems with syncing big files to ubuntu one. 'u1sdtool --current-transfers' says written bytes (= total bytes) but it gets stuck there
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> if my ip changes. i have a tool running that updates the dyndns information on the dyndns server
[20:26] <pfifo> Oops! Google Chrome could not find drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  :)
[20:26]  * pfifo registers drwillis_lovenest.dyndns.org
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  try   http://chrome.angrybirds.com/
[20:27] <gerson> voces vao tiar ubuntu sem efeitos na proxima verçao
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> see if unity messes up for you like it does for me.
[20:27] <oCean> !br | gerson
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> now how the browwser is messing up Unity.. im not sure
[20:27] <oCean> gerson: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado
[20:28] <gerson> voce quer fazer sexo
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell,  my router has a dyndns feature built in. I dont even need to set  it up on a specific pc.
[20:28] <ortsvorsteher> hi. i need to connect a samsung galaxy 9000i mobile device over usb or cable to a ubuntu 11.04 laptop. the only thing i found, there is no connection possible. does someone have experience whith that?
[20:29] <pfifo> ohh was i not supposed to frag the smiley face?
[20:29] <wols> ortsvorsteher: what happens if you simply plug it in?
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  i start that game, and the unity panel messes up..
[20:30] <Gatekeeper__> hello everyone need help with ubuntu 11.04 have a ati radeon 9600 agp X wont start and the log is telling me (EE) No Drivers Available / No Screens please help !! thanks
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  trying to track down why, or even what to file a bug report against
[20:30] <ortsvorsteher> wols, nothing, the mobile device just tells me : to end samsung kies, press start button. but nothing is mounted...
[20:31] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> ortsvorsteher,  this is some sort of Android Phone?
[20:31] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, xubuntu :(
[20:31] <ortsvorsteher> Dr_Willis, yes, it is.
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> ortsvorsteher,  the #android channel may be able to help
[20:31] <Gatekeeper__> hello everyone need help with ubuntu 11.04 have a ati radeon 9600 agp X wont start and the log is telling me (EE) No Drivers Available / No Screens please help !! thanks <----- Any ideas ...?
[20:31] <ortsvorsteher> Dr_Willis, good idea. thank you
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__,  install the ati drivers?
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> thats an old card.. it may not work with the flgrx drivers however...
[20:32] <wols> Dr_Willis: it won't
[20:33] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis,  there is no driver for that card
[20:33] <coz_> For 7000 to HD4xxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD2xxx and later series cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[20:33] <wols> but radeon works fine
[20:33] <coz_> ^that probably needs updating
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> well theres a 'driver' for the card.. its just its the standard radeon/ati drivers now a days. :)
[20:33] <qolysdhfnlsyxcmn> ciao
[20:33] <PeskyJ> I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/697063 - is there a way to create a boot disc that works and modify the install such that it will boot?
[20:33] <qolysdhfnlsyxcmn> !list
[20:33] <Gatekeeper__> its the RV350 any help to get it running please
[20:34] <james_1313> I need help with getting grub rescue at boot, I think i moved something while rearranging my partitions... Im booting from a live usb right now...
[20:34] <whallz> hi, i'm using ubuntu 11.04 natty, with unity disabled, is there a way to disable the expo mode/windows scale feature? or at least change it's keyboard shortcut?
[20:34] <DrSlony> pfifo oCean thank you
[20:34] <edbian> james_1313: Are you using 11.04 or... ?
[20:34] <Adamfyre> james what live usb are you using?
[20:34] <edbian> whallz: Yes, install ccsm and edit the expo plugin
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> whallz,  those are compiz featuires. use the ccsm tool to tweak it how you want
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[20:35] <Gatekeeper__> how to i install the open source "radeon" driver <--------------------- ...?
[20:35] <rpk> Hello, I'm using 11.04 classic in a vmware vm.  immediately after logging in, I have the nice black bars and classic skin, then it drops back to this grey theme.  how can I keep the black standard theme?
[20:35] <whallz> edbian: thanks Dr_Willis thanks
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  ive seen some iothers mention a grey theme bug. I thought i saw it mentioned at the askubuntu.com  site. i dident read up on it however.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> I can browse askubuntu.com from my android phone. :) i just cant post to it.
[20:37] <edbian> Dr_Willis: he was more thankful for my help! :P
[20:37] <rpk> oh so its a bug :/  I was just hoping it was trying to automatically adjust to my hardware config (which is low, since i'm in a vm)
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  youa re using the latest virtualbox ?
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> oh wait vmeare.. no idea on vmware. :)
[20:37] <rpk> VMware workstation on win 7 x64 host (but os is 32 bit ubuntu)
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> theres some known issues in earlier vbox versions..
[20:38] <PeskyJ> is it possible to boot from some simple image and fix the kernel so that the machine will boot properly?
[20:39] <rhin0> yes PeskyJ
[20:39] <rhin0> you use the live cd PeskyJ -- mount the corrupted volume
[20:39] <rhin0> or you could boot from the USB key -- installed ubuntu
[20:39] <wonka_> be careful
[20:39] <PeskyJ> there's no corrupted volume and the live CD doesn't boot either due to the same problem in 11.04
[20:39] <Gatekeeper__> Dr_Willis, when i use the open source "radeon" driver my screen flashes a few times and just stays on the terminal
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Gatekeeper__,  i got rid of all my ati systems  ages ago.. well all but one.. :)
[20:40] <rhin0> if a cd doesn't boot it's either a problem with the cd,cd player or the machine (not ubuntu) cds are read only
[20:40] <PeskyJ> it's a fresh install on a brand new laptop, the bug is in the wireless driver
[20:40] <Gatekeeper__> kk anyone else know a solution
[20:41] <wonka_> are you kidding?
[20:41] <PeskyJ> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/659143
[20:41] <rhin0> if you have a problem connecting or your machine crashing because of the wireless driver -- connect to the internet with a usb wireless dongle (as I did recently) -- then download the wireless driver
[20:41] <PeskyJ> rhin0: it won't boot
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> a wireless driver bug causes the system to not boot.. that is.. weird
[20:42] <rhin0> I had it recently
[20:42] <PeskyJ> well according to that bug report on launchpad it's in the kernel
[20:42] <rhin0> every time the machine connected it crashed -- I used a usb wiress dongle to download the wireless driver -- all ok
[20:43] <PeskyJ> so it affects the live CD (live CD won't boot) but I installed from the alternative installer and now the machine won't boot for the same reason
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  you could boot a differnt live cd. chroot in, and try to update/upgrade perhaps.
[20:43] <rhin0> live cds don't get 'affected' they are read only you have a problem either with your hardware or with hardware/initial ubuntu install incompatibility
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> assuming theres a update kernel out for it.
[20:44] <pfifo> PeskyJ, have you tried booting with your wireless device disabled? My laptops can toggle it off, and theres probably a way to disable it in the bios too
[20:44] <rhin0> it may be an idea to try to connect with a wireless usb dongle -- then download all the updates / proprietary drivers if ubuntu runs peskyJ
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> theres a boot option to ignore/not load spefific modules also
[20:45] <PeskyJ> Dr_Willis: how do you get the boot options? is there a secret key to press while it's booting?
[20:45] <rhin0> f11 or f12 peskyj on some machines I think f2 or even escape on asus
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  shift key if grub is hidden. or the space key from live cd when yous ee the man-keyboard imnage
[20:45] <rhin0> its a function key anyay -- maybe del
[20:46] <Dr_Willis>  the live cd boot options = space key at the right time i think.
[20:46] <rhin0> ah I thought you mean the bios options
[20:46] <rhin0> not sure if you can disable wireless in the bios on all machines
[20:47] <colin_> HI
[20:47] <rhin0> one idea would be to put yourself and machine into a lead box so it doesn't connect until you fix it
[20:47] <PeskyJ> yeah - this laptop seems to have a very limited BIOS config screen :(
[20:47] <colin_> i just installed zorin, am i in the right place?
[20:47] <jNovice> hi, I have 10.10, and when I run update manager, it suggest ~700mb of updates - it looks like it want to upgrade to 11.04. Why?
[20:48] <PeskyJ> rhin0: it would still break as it happens when the kernel loads the driver I think - when the hardware is detected, not when it trys to connect
[20:48] <wols> PeskyJ: boot options for a ubuntu cd: F6
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  zorin is not ubuntu. its a spinoff with its own support channels and web site.
[20:48] <colin_> does that mean its bad?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  no idea.. i never used it.. you are using it.. so what do you thinjk of it.. :)
[20:49] <colin_> gr8 so far
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  it does mean that its not supported by this irc channel.
[20:49] <colin_> basically i was using mint
[20:49] <centHOGG> hi, how do you edit your host file in gnome ubuntu 10.4?
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> mint also has its own support channels.
[20:49] <colin_> but my ati card was causing it to freeze up
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> centHOGG,  gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[20:49] <colin_> someone suggested zorin
[20:49] <centHOGG> thx
[20:49] <colin_> as soon as i put cd in, it had wobbly windwos and desktop cube
[20:49] <rpk> Dr_Willis: found the bug on launchpad, added myself to it, hopefully it gets resolved eventually :(
[20:50] <colin_> so hopefully it wont start to freeze up, and i can keep it
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  ubuntu variants/spinoffs are a  getting comonplace.. any real impressive features of them.. are not as commonplace.
[20:50] <rpk> (and sudoing the gnome-settings-deaemon resolved it termporarily)
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> rpk,  egads! :)
[20:50] <colin_> its just like windows zorin is
[20:50] <Scunizi>  How do I add someone to sodoers?
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> colin_,  thats a big vague. :) but dosent really matter i guess.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> !sudoers
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[20:51] <colin_> like the menu is hte same and everything
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi,  theres spefific commands used to alter the sudoers file. be CAREFULL when messing with it.
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> and make backups.
[20:52] <edbian> visudo   ?
[20:52] <josePhoenix> Does apt/dpkg overwrite /etc/sudoers in upgrades?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> josePhoenix,  it would /shouild ask what to do if it detects a customuized sudoers
[20:52] <josePhoenix> Okay
[20:52] <edbian> josePhoenix: I don't see why any package would ever want to do that but it is root so it could
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> same as it should do for most all other /etc/ config files
[20:52] <rype89> why is it when I try to uefi boot the livecd, it stays at the loading page for quite a while and then end up in the busybox shell?
[20:52] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis, got it.. I did a fresh install saving my /home on a laptop adn when entering new user name and pass I did a new user entirely.. not my old one.. so I have 2 users for the system but the old one didn't get picked up in sodoers.. the new did...
[20:53] <josePhoenix> Dr_Willis: Okay, because I'm thinking of customizing sudoers and adding /etc/sudoers.d/ or similar. I don't want the reference to that to disappear.
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi,  i think thres a user admin tool that you can use to enable that.
[20:53] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis, probably.. just haven't had time to futz with it.
[20:53] <PeskyJ> if I can boot from another image, how would I prevent it from trying to load that rt2800pci driver?
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  i recall seeing some ignoremodule= option
[20:54] <PeskyJ> Dr_Willis: what conf file would it be in?
[20:55] <chili555> PeskyJ, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf    blacklist rt2800pci
[20:56] <Oer> rype89, as you asked before, i don't own a mac,  these pages maybe any help > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[20:57] <rype89> Oer: i'm not on a mac either, just an efi powered board
[20:57] <PeskyJ> chili555: ok I'll try that thanks :)
[20:57] <pfifo> PeskyJ, that's not what your lookingfor
[20:57] <lacrymology> I just installed a wireless card, apparently it works fine, connects to my router and everything, but the system doesn't seem to be using it...
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  it was a kernel boot option you could type in from the grub/syslinux menus
[20:57] <Oer> rype sorry, my bad, i asumed efi mac system
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> PeskyJ,  i saw it mentioned on an askubuntu question..
[20:58] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, PeskyJ, I just used this today with 'acpi.power_load=1' im pretty sure thats similiar to what you need just a completly unrelated module in this case
[20:59] <chili555> pfifo, sorry 'bout that. i prolly got here a bit late
[20:59] <edbian> lacrymology: You're connected to a network!  How is the machine not using it?
[20:59] <lacrymology> edbian: I have both wireless and wired, I'm connected through wired now
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> pfifo,  well this was somthing like 'ignoremodule=noveau'  (in the question i was reading)
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> but that might be X specific also.. not for kernel moduiles
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find the question now on askubuntu
[21:00] <edbian> lacrymology: What card do you have?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> goodnight all
[21:01] <lacrymology> edbian: a realtec.. 8515, I think. But I tell you, the card is working properly and it's connecting to the access point, and has it's correct IP address and everything, but the system isn't using that interface for internet connection
[21:01] <PeskyJ> I don't really understand why the bug report is saying it's in certain kernel versions, if it's a module then surely just replacing that will fix it?
[21:01] <Gatekeeper__> hello anyone ... my radeon driver is now working but the desktop only shows my mouse cursor no menu's <-------------- Please help >>????!!!
[21:01] <ImDexter> im trying to donwload games from playdeb. some of them are added to software center, but others wont: there isnt a software package called "whatever" in my current software sources. what do I have to do in those cases?
[21:01] <edbian> lacrymology: Unconnect the wire
[21:03] <pfifo> PeskyJ, You can blacklist a module using the following syntax: module_name.blacklist=yes. This will cause the module to be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local both during the installation and for the installed system.
[21:03] <ImDexter> with what do I open games downloaded from playdeb?
[21:03] <DrSlony> pfifo oCean cmake fails when i try that in the latst ubuntu, however it works just fun when i run the exact same command for the same program on my gentoo machine, can you take a look please? http://paste2.org/p/1476944
[21:03] <lacrymology> edbian: if I do that, I'll drop from here =P. Just by the way, lshw -class network only shows the wlan adapter now, eth0 is not showing there (but it's working, it appears in ifconfig)
[21:03] <DrSlony> Do i need to install anything to be able to compile 32 bit code on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[21:05] <oCean> DrSlony: try installing package gcc-multilib
[21:05] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: ok, it worked.. but can't I have it both ways? fallback to wlan if wired fails?
[21:05] <R4D4R> Hello, I am currently trying to remove ebox (2.0.20) from my computer, but the process crashed while running 'apt-get remove --purge ebox-communications', now when I try to run apt it says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'", but when I do so it just says "setting up ebox (2.0.20) and never gets past that.
[21:05] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: That's exactly what you have right now.
[21:05] <pfifo> DrSlony, you might be missing 32bit libs for the project your making, im pretty sure 64 bit ubuntu only ships with 32 bit binaraies and no *-dev, so you probably need to build and install your 32 bit deps
[21:05] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Pulling the wire made the interface 'trail'
[21:05] <edbian> fail
[21:05] <edbian> hahaha
[21:05] <edbian> sorry
[21:06] <guntbert> DrSlony: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingCompilers#32-bit%20Builds%20on%20AMD64 ?
[21:06] <PeskyJ> pfifo: is that in the grub boot commands?
[21:06] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: not really. See, I tried not unplugging the cable but turning the wired modem off. The eth network appeared as connected, but there was no internet access.. that was when it was failing
[21:07] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Mmm, it didn't switch to wifi?  (I'm kind of surprised)
[21:07] <DrSlony> oCean pfifo guntbert thank you, i'll read and try again
[21:07] <pfifo> PeskyJ, yes, youll have to determine the actual module nome from someone else or google, I have no idea what to actually put there, but it can be done
[21:07] <guntbert> DrSlony: Good luck :-)
[21:07] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: Perhaps because it was still on a working network.  Just not connected to the Internet
[21:07] <Gatekeeper__> hello anyone how do i disable unity or access the login screen to bypass unity only have console mode and sesktop no menus
[21:07] <Gatekeeper__> please help
[21:08] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: I'm not sure of a simple way to get what you want.  I'm sure there are elaborate failsafe programs out there.
[21:08] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: you want console only?
[21:08] <diytto> I just got a hardware requirement warning that said I can't run unity...
[21:09] <lacrymol1gy> edbian: it's ok, I'm not really gonna do that, anyways, I think. I just got a new ISP and they gave me a wireless router, but when I can get  along enough cable, I'm wiring this box anyways
[21:09] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok trying it now :) what's the correct way to see the boot log during boot instead of the graphical progress thingy?
[21:09] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, i have desktop but think ,y display card cant support unity because when i login there are no menu's nothing only mouse cursor want to get default gdm login
[21:09] <edbian> lacrymol1gy: :)   sounds great!
[21:10] <pfifo> PeskyJ, remove "quiet splash" from the boot options
[21:11] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: on the login menu, type/select the user name and then (before typing the password) select "ubuntu classic" from the session menu at tha bottom
[21:11] <guntbert> !classic | Gatekeeper__
[21:12] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, how do i do that via terminal i have no buttons nothing to logout
[21:13] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: you mean you don't get any menu? but you get a terminal?
[21:13] <PeskyJ> pfifo: are we talking about in grub here? I don't see anything to do with quiet splash
[21:13] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, yes i got terminal want to change through there if possible
[21:14] <dasupergamer> hi all
[21:14] <pfifo> PeskyJ, press "E" to edit the boot command
[21:14] <Poindexter> Is php5 backwards compatible with php4?
[21:14] <guntbert> Gatekeeper__: now I understand, what happens when you type         sudo service gdm start   ?
[21:15] <pfifo> Poindexter, no
[21:15] <PeskyJ> pfifo: my bad - found it
[21:15]  * pfifo starts to make a pot of coffee, bacon flavored coffee
[21:15] <Poindexter> Pfifo thanks. Should I create a different USER group with Apache2 to use php4 for that application?
[21:16] <dasupergamer> is there any different between ubuntu, kubuntu xubuntu and so on
[21:16] <PeskyJ> pfifo: should the module.blacklist=yes be an option to the 'linux' command or before it on a separate line?
[21:16] <edbian> dasupergamer: The DE they use. That's about it.
[21:16] <Guest27303> help! i accidently turn off the window manager on 11.04 when i tried to enable cube in ccsm
[21:16] <guntbert> !variants | dasupergamer
[21:16] <edbian> Guest27303: metacity --replace&
[21:16] <dasupergamer> so they run wxatly the same
[21:16] <pfifo> Poindexter, apache runs as www-data, you sould keep it that way unless there is a very good reason to change it
[21:17] <dasupergamer> exactly*
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: change the settings back (so that you can use compiz again)
[21:17] <munis> hi
[21:17] <Guest27303> idk how
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: how did you cause the cube problem in the first place?
[21:17] <edbian> Guest27303: CCSM is a good place to start :)
[21:17] <guntbert> hi munis,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:17] <munis> how are everybody today
[21:18] <Poindexter> Thanks Pfifo. When installing a new website should I use /var/www or /usr/share/Apache2/default-site   ?
[21:18] <pfifo> PeskyJ, to the linux command
[21:18] <Gatekeeper__> guntbert, gdmsetup canged login via that thanks all working....
[21:18] <pfifo> Poindexter, /var/www
[21:18] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok retrying :D I'm new to editing the grub commands - it's fun
[21:19] <Poindexter> Pfifo I thought so. Thanks. If I install a default index.html in the /var/www will that become the default?
[21:19] <edbian> nothing is more fun than editing configuration files
[21:19] <dasupergamer> deleting them in fun too
[21:20] <PeskyJ> pfifo: you are a superstar!!!
[21:20] <Poindexter> Pfifo do I need to set a path in a .conf file?
[21:20] <redmenace> help i still cant turn on the window manager!!
[21:20] <edbian> redmenace: metacity --replace&
[21:20] <edbian> redmenace: Did I help you a second ago?
[21:20] <pfifo> Poindexter, its set to /var/www by default. you probably want index.php instead of index.html
[21:21] <redmenace> i tried that, but it didnt work all it did was turn off unity panels
[21:21] <PeskyJ> pfifo: the blacklist thing works great - now I think I will be able to get the fixed module and make it all work (or at least get it to boot to try!)
[21:21] <edbian> redmenace: Ahh, you're running unity!  Didn't know that :P  compiz --replace&
[21:21] <edbian> redmenace: We need compiz to run unity
[21:21] <pfifo> PeskyJ, you shoul;d propose a workaround on that bug report
[21:22] <redmenace> ahh that didnt work either edbian
[21:22] <R4D4R> How can I remove a package that did not completely install with apt-get, and now won't let me run apt-get remove? (Gives message "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'" but hangs there also)
[21:22] <Poindexter> Pfifo I have tried to SSH into the /var/www directory and copy and paste from a Windows remote box to Ubuntu. I get permissions denied. What is the command to give me permission to chmod into /var/www
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: then we need to edit the settings (because they're causing compiz to crash immediately)  mv ~/.compiz ~/.backupcompiz
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: Then try compiz --replace& again
[21:23] <edbian> redmenace: What questions do you have?
[21:23] <redmenace> none i just want a border and buttons on my windows
[21:24] <edbian> redmenace: haha, don't we all?
[21:24] <Poindexter> I do have root access.
[21:25] <redmenace> edbian i tried it still doesnt work!!
[21:25] <redmenace> :(
[21:25] <edbian> redmenace: What happens, any errors?
[21:25] <pfifo> Poindexter, well you could sudo to turn into root, but what I do is make a folder in my home directory called html or Public, then remove /var/www and use a link to point /var/www to /home/pfifo/html `sudo ln -sf /home/pfifo/html /var/www` this makes it so my normal user can work with anything in the html folder.
[21:25] <redmenace> yeah
[21:26] <edbian> redmenace: what errors?
[21:26] <redmenace> idk what there are is there any way to reset compiz?
[21:26] <PeskyJ> pfifo: ok, will do :)
[21:27] <edbian> redmenace: Yes, you move the folder I had you move.  Can you pastebin ls -la ~   ?
[21:27] <redmenace> just a sec
[21:27] <edbian> redmenace: sure
[21:27] <Poindexter> Pfifo so I need to establish a <group> first?
[21:28] <pfifo> Poindexter, you automatically are in a group named after your user ie pfifo is in the group pfifo
[21:28] <Poindexter> Pfifo so by default Poindexter is in  the group as root?
[21:29] <pfifo> Poindexter, no, type groups to get a listing of your groups
[21:29] <Poindexter> So the groups is in the www-data
[21:30] <pfifo> www-data is a user and a group on your computer
[21:30] <hamnegga> Anyone know what file backs up your panel config in gnome?
[21:31] <pfifo> !permissions | Poindexter
[21:33] <jasongriffee> is there a guide to syncing my firefox bookmarks with ubuntu one?
[21:33] <Poindexter> I read those file permissions but it has nothing to do with SSH drag and drop.
[21:34] <pfifo> Poindexter, i have no idea there, i only use cli tools
[21:34] <Ianster_guy> bot
[21:34] <Ianster_guy> Hello floodbot1
[21:35] <Poindexter> Pfifo right now I am using x11vnc ssh into a Linux box from a Windows box talking with you. VNC connected.
[21:35] <wonka_> my mediavision card is not working
[21:36] <anastasis> Please help. When I have two monitors my sticky notes (ubuntu 11.04) are buggy. When I move them around they make trails that dont go away. LIke he box is not rerawing properly and generally acts weird. when in single monitor mode it works fine. ANy idea how to fix for two monitors. OR.. is their a way to use Tomboy notes to create notes that are permanently on the desktop..
[21:36] <Ianster_guy> LOL this room seems quiet on the weekend. and vary active at night
[21:37] <jasongriffee> how do I enable bookmark syncing in ubuntu 11.04
[21:37] <Poindexter> Pfifo I have tried a nice  program namely, WinSCP to SSH into the Linux box but the situation is the same with drag and drop with a GUI Windows box to Ubuntu.
[21:37]  * pfifo needs to go now
[21:38] <wonka_> bye pfifo
[21:39] <anastasis> Please help. When I have two monitors my sticky notes (ubuntu 11.04) are buggy. When I move them around they make trails that dont go away. LIke he box is not rerawing properly and generally acts weird. when in single monitor mode it works fine. ANy idea how to fix for two monitors. OR.. is their a way to use Tomboy notes to create notes that are permanently on the desktop..
[21:39] <jey> In Ubuntu 11.04 is there a way to have separate mixer settings for headphones vs speakers? I know that the OS is capable of detecting whether headphones are plugged into this laptop (other OSes do it)
[21:40] <jey> I want speakers to be muted but unmuted when headphones are plugged in
[21:40] <wonka_> interesting...
[21:41] <redmenace> edbian, im in ubuntu safe mode, and in ccsm what should i put for settings?
[21:42] <jasongriffee> Jey, u mean have speakers run when headphones are not plugged in, then mute when inserted?
[21:42] <zerosniper> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server with a gui installed..  I dont want x to load at boot but i would like to be able to run startx if i need to for some reason.  Can anyone help me do that/
[21:42] <jey> nah, just want to have the speakers always be muted, but headphones be unmuted
[21:42] <auda> Salam alikm
[21:42] <redmenace> help i accidently turned off the window manager in unity by trying to enable cube, now im in safe mode, and in ccsm, what should  i put for settings?
[21:42] <wonka_> Salam, thanks
[21:43] <zerosniper> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server with a gui installed..  I dont want x to load at boot but i would like to be able to run startx if i need to for some reason.  Can anyone help me do that?
[21:43] <jasongriffee> would muting them manually when unplugged be a acceptable compormise, or is there a tech issue perventing that?
[21:43] <jey> zerosniper: you want to change the default runlevel
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: add " text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub
[21:44] <zerosniper> ok
[21:44] <thegladiator> is it possible to remove gnome-panel ?
[21:44] <Raikia> zerosniper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519013&highlight=startup+terminal
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: you do not want to change your default runlevel
[21:44] <jey> oops
[21:44] <jrib> zerosniper: you also do not want to follow that forum thread as it is outdated
[21:44] <jasongriffee> thegladiator, sound gnome panel?
[21:44] <Raikia> zerosniper: Just remove gdm from rc.d
[21:44] <thevishy> gnome-panel I mean
[21:45] <centHOGG> zerosniper: what is so bad about x at boot?
[21:45] <moji_> hey
[21:45] <jrib> zerosniper: you also do not want to what Raikia has just suggested
[21:45] <thevishy> I have docky installed , dont need the gnome-panel - Mac like
[21:45] <Raikia> jrib: Why not?
[21:45] <Raikia> Thats what I did and it works great
[21:45] <bsmith093> how do i know if my soundcard has line in
[21:45] <hamnegga> anyone here have the google-talkplugin working?
[21:45] <zerosniper> thanks jrib
[21:45] <usr13> bsmith093: Look at it.
[21:45] <jrib> !upstart | Raikia
[21:45] <wonka_> these soundcards requests are giving me some weird ideas
[21:46] <usr13> hamnegga: Yep
[21:46] <redmenace> bye wish me luck
[21:46] <Poindexter> CentHOGG perhaps Zerosniper wants to use it as a server without unnecessary resources being used.
[21:46] <jrib> Raikia: gdm is started by upstart because of /etc/init/gdm.conf
[21:46] <jey> is there a way to query the attached monitors? something akin to lspci but for monitors
[21:46] <bsmith093> so how do i check in software? if my soundcard has line in? im trying to rip cassettes to mp3
[21:46] <hamnegga> usr13, you got any advice on that?
[21:47] <jrib> jey: maybe xrandr?
[21:47] <hamnegga> I've been trying to get it working for days
[21:47] <jey> jrib: thanks i'll check
[21:47] <usr13> hamnegga: I don't really remember.  It's been installed for a while now.
[21:47] <wonka_> I will make my software to mute if the headphone is unpluged
[21:47] <usr13> hamnegga: Just works,  that's pretty much all I know.
[21:47] <thevishy> I need to have a simple X session what are my choices ? not lubuntu or xfce
[21:48] <jrib> thevishy: one of the *boxes, like fluxbox?
[21:48] <zerosniper> Should i change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" ?
[21:48] <hamnegga> yeah, none of my plugins wanna show up in firefox, it's wicked annoying.  I have every possible plugin directory all symlinked up too
[21:48] <jrib> zerosniper: you can just change it to "quiet text" if you wish
[21:49] <zerosniper> what command do i use to update grub? is it simply "update-grub" ?
[21:49] <jeff_> I am having a problem with the FN-keys on a gateway laptop after blacklisting acer-wmi for the wifi
[21:49] <jrib> zerosniper: with sudo in front, yeah
[21:49] <zerosniper> cool
[21:49] <zerosniper> thanks jrib
[21:49] <zerosniper> can we pm?
[21:49] <thevishy> would be a good choice yes jrib  , but I have a huge problem , I cant connect to net - because the WIFI thing is tied up to gnome
[21:50] <jrib> zerosniper: better in channel
[21:50] <jeff_> the keys do not connect to the volume
[21:50] <jrib> thevishy: why is it tied up to gnome?
[21:50] <udr> hi!  I have a server with jaunty (9.04), for which support has run out. I want to upgrade, but cannot find a packet source for the upgrade manager.
[21:50] <jrib> !upgrade | udr
[21:50] <zerosniper> im trying to edit with grub but i cant make any changes. its open in read only.  Do i need to change to su?
[21:50] <jrib> zerosniper: do: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[21:50] <thevishy> I have not been able to use a wifi on any other X sessions , because gnome -panel is the only way I know to connect Wifi
[21:51] <zerosniper> what is the gk?
[21:51] <jeff_> anyone know about function keys on laptops?
[21:51] <Hordeking> Has anyone else had issues with the startup disk creator installed with ubuntu creating usb disks that don't start up right (something about a bad syslinux config)?
[21:51] <jrib> thevishy: you should be able to run nm-applet in other environments (I HOPE!), but if not there is always nmcli (cli interface to network-manager) or wicd
[21:51] <djzielin> bzr
[21:51] <zerosniper> it says failed to run gedit as user root?
[21:52] <djzielin> join bzr
[21:52] <thevishy> let me try
[21:52] <djzielin> #bzr
[21:52] <jrib> djzielin: /join #bzr
[21:52] <K1ng`> Hi,
[21:52] <Hordeking> I had to run the windows version under wine to do it, and even then it had issues writing the mbr (fortunately usb-creator-gtk wrote that correctly earlier)
[21:52] <dasupergamer> sup
[21:54] <K1ng`> i have newly installed 10.04 server... the problem is when grub wasnt installed to harddrive. it was installed to flashdrive. but all system file was installed on harddrive
[21:55] <usr13> K1ng`: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:55] <K1ng`> ok hold on i need to start it
[21:56] <usr13> K1ng`: Probably just need to do  grub install /dev/sda
[21:56] <usr13> !grub2 | K1ng`
[21:58] <K1ng`> usr13, i cant install any package. i am its get stuck on 50%.... Segmentation faulty tree
[21:59] <zerosniper> i am not sure ifits connected. but since i changed it to quite text i now dont have a reboot button in the gui?  is that to be expected?
[21:59] <usr13> K1ng`: That's ok. Just re-install grub.
[21:59] <usr13> K1ng`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[22:00] <K1ng`> ok. let me do it then i will let you know
[22:00] <zerosniper> i am not sure ifits connected. but since i changed it to quite text i now dont have a reboot button in the gui?  is that to be expected?
[22:01] <guntbert> !repeat | zerosniper
[22:01] <jas_> test
[22:02] <zerosniper> !repeat | guntbert
[22:02] <guntbert> jas_: please use #test for testing
[22:02] <joost1123> is anyone here using a 2011 Macbook Pro?
[22:02] <centHOGG> $$$
[22:02] <guntbert> zerosniper: I beg your pardon?
[22:02] <Pr070cal> is anyone here using gnome 3 how can i enable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9pmbAo6T-A
[22:03] <zerosniper> sorry, i was just seeing if i could do that cool message too
[22:03] <zerosniper> :)
[22:03] <alexsn> /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: symbolic link to `/bin/true'
[22:03] <alexsn> is this intended?
[22:03] <zerosniper> hey guys, once you have finished with a session in x, how do you close x and leave the command line running?
[22:03] <guntbert> !askthebot > zerosniper
[22:03] <jas_> i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:04] <guntbert> zerosniper: did you start the session with startx?
[22:04] <zerosniper> yes
[22:05] <zerosniper> its ubuntu server, it has been configured to boot with text mode, then if i need gui i use startx, how do i return to text mode once i have completed the task in the gui
[22:05] <centHOGG> gawd
[22:05] <guntbert> zerosniper: usually you just log out, but there is a terminal command too ...
[22:06] <zerosniper> ahh yes, logging out has done it
[22:06] <zerosniper> that is fine
[22:06] <alexsn> guys anyone knows why update-initramfs links to /bin/true on natty?
[22:06] <jas_> admin_: i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:06] <centHOGG> nope
[22:06] <zerosniper> is there a good easy to learn way to manage apache, mysql ect?  for webserver managment?
[22:07] <guntbert> !serverguide | zerosniper
[22:07] <redmenace> ok i fixed the prblm where i didnt have borders and buttons on my windows, but you the black box in the uper-right corner that gives noticfications, how do i get that back
[22:07] <johntramp> hi.   are there any digital video cameras (not a webcam) which can be accessed via /dev/video0 when connected to the pc?
[22:07] <johntramp> or do they all show up as a mass storage device
[22:08] <brontosaurusrex> johntramp, probably the ones that use firewire
[22:08] <K1ng`> usr13, actually i am totally lost
[22:09] <johntramp> brontosaurusrex: ok thanks
[22:10] <redmenace> can some one send me a message on jabber, im<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i need to see if the black box indicator still works
[22:10] <guntbert> redmenace: not here please - keep it to ubuntu support
[22:10] <jey> is there something that lets me contorl the volume from the keyboard (without special multimedia keys)? something analogous to SizzlingKeys for MacOS
[22:11] <redmenace> sorry,  but i think i lost the black indicator box
[22:11]  * jey hasn't used a linux machine as desktop in quite a while
[22:11] <johntramp> jey: alsamixer
[22:11] <zerosniper> When i startx i frequently get a message saying "it seems that you do not have the hardware require to run unity. Please choose ubuntu classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional enviroment".  Can i stop this message showing, perhaps loading the classic mode by default?
[22:12] <guntbert> !classic | zerosniper
[22:12] <moystard> Hello everyone!
[22:12] <jey> johntramp: I mean that I want to bind global hotkeys under X to raise/lower volume -- sounds like this will probably need cooperation of my window manager
[22:12] <moystard> talking about unity, it's crazy to see how much it impacts opengl performances of the other running programs :/
[22:12] <guntbert> hello moystard,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <johntramp> jey: yes it depends on which WM you use
[22:12] <zerosniper> when i "log out" i get back to command line
[22:13] <zerosniper> so i cant log out and switch.
[22:13] <moystard> guntbert, no no, just came to talk why? :D
[22:13] <zerosniper> is there a config somehwere i can edit for this?
[22:13] <jas_> i have a question if the nvidia drivers installed through system -> administration -> hardware drivers are equivalent to the nvidia offical web page drivers
[22:13] <jey> johntramp: how about under Unity? though I should probably just pick a tiling window manager and switch to that, then look into binding these keys...
[22:13] <redmenace> yeah whats the black box that appears in the upper-right hand corner called?
[22:13] <guntbert> moystard: this channel is for ubuntu support only, chatter takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:13] <zerosniper> do you guys think http://webmin.com/index.html is any good?
[22:14] <guntbert> !webmin | zerosniper
[22:14] <centHOGG> <webmin
[22:14] <zerosniper> ok
[22:14] <zerosniper> is there a more recent tool that is preferd ?
[22:15] <redmenace> is there a gnome help channel?
[22:15] <guntbert> zerosniper: no :-(
[22:15] <zerosniper> aww
[22:16] <zerosniper> hmmm.. is there any web administration utility that i can install to manage my server like Plesk or Cpanle but free?
[22:16] <toad`> does someone feel like helping me reinstall ubuntu on a laptop that dual boots with win7 using GRUB2
[22:16] <guntbert> zerosniper: not to my knowledge, but you *could* ask in #ubuntu-server
[22:17] <wonka_> soon I will provide one, this is a promise
[22:17] <zerosniper> im currently using the freenode web chat.  how do i open a new tab with that chan in it?
[22:18] <toad`> bugger all
[22:18] <toad`> anyone?
[22:18] <toad`> I need help quick
[22:18] <Oer> zerosniper, type /join <channel>
[22:19] <toad`> how do I 'destroy' a partition, this one tutorial says to 'destroy' not delete
[22:19] <toad`> :(
[22:19] <BlouBlou> toad`: Do it by gparted
[22:19] <BlouBlou> !gparted | toad`
[22:20] <toad`> from within ubuntu?
[22:20] <toad`> I cant apt-get cause I cant get online, cause network manager is missing, thus why Iwant to reinstall
[22:20] <toad`> cant I do this from within the installation setup? from the LiveCD?
[22:20] <vorbis5> first time, can you people see this msg?
[22:21] <pfifo> vorbis5, what message?
[22:21] <BlouBlou> toad`: yes, you can
[22:21] <vorbis5> hi
[22:21] <SubKid> clear
[22:21] <toad`> so
[22:21] <Oer> toad`, yes, you van choose manually, and then you can re-use the partition, including formatting
[22:21] <toad`> do I just delete the partition ubuntu is on?
[22:21] <guntbert> !who > seven try it out
[22:21] <toad`> how do I reuse?
[22:21] <redmenace> umm, i think i might of lost notify-osd
[22:21] <toad`> should I delete it? it turns into unallocated free space?
[22:21] <toad`> will this mess up GRUB?
[22:21] <toad`> let me stick the livecd in and get the installation going then we'll go from there
[22:22] <pfifo> toad`, can you pastebin?
[22:22] <toad`> what would you like me to pastebin?
[22:22] <pfifo> toad`, the output of "sudo fdisk -l && sudo os-prober"
[22:22] <toad`> I can try sure
[22:23] <toad`> waht will this be telling me?
[22:23] <DrSlony> Help oCean pfifo guntbert or anybody, when I try compiling a program into a 32 bit build on a 64 bit ubuntu machine, it fails at the "Linking CXX executable" stage with this: http://paste2.org/p/1477027 How do I fix it? I don't see any 32 bit caito, pango, lcms etc packages using "sudo apt-cache search cairo | grep 32"
[22:23] <toad`> or you rather
[22:23] <toad`> should I do that from within ubuntu>? cause I'm in the process of booting from the livecd
[22:23] <pfifo> toad`, if you cant get to a pastebin PM it to me and ill copy it over
[22:23] <toad`> honestly I just wanna reinstall. :)
[22:23] <Angelous> Yes, hello. I'm having a problem with my Ubuntu 11. I had to re-setup my router and afterwards now ipconfig doesn't work for my vm. I checked to make sure that net-tools was installed and it is. So does anyone have any idea what my problem is here?
[22:23] <toad`> I tried getting network manager back on but that was far too much trouble, there really isnt much on here so I figure a fresh instal wont be too much trouble.
[22:23] <guntbert> DrSlony: no help from me, sorry (I only found that page ...)
[22:23] <pfifo> DrSlony, the easiest way to do it is by building a 32 bit chroot
[22:24] <toad`> Usually I'll reinstall windows, then install ubtunu and everythign works great, but I've never tried to reinstall ubuntu after having Windows 7 instlaled.
[22:24] <alexsn> Angelous: ipconfig works for windows only
[22:24] <DrSlony> pfifo how?
[22:24] <alexsn> Angelous: use ifconfig
[22:24] <pfifo> DrSlony, check out debootstrap, you said you know gentoo so you should feel at home
[22:25] <Oer> toad`, choose manually, and then you can re-use the partition
[22:25] <vorbis5> help please: I'm connected to the internet obviously, but I'm it says im not connected to a 'network'. I cant ping any of the other computers on my network. whats wrong?
[22:25] <toad`> o I didnt see anywhere to reuse partitions
[22:25] <toad`> only to delete them
[22:25] <toad`> one sec livecd is loading
[22:25] <redmenace> never mind, i didnt lose notify-osd
[22:26] <redmenace> but thanks to all who helped me
[22:26] <pfifo> vorbis5, maybe your router is blocking ping, can you pastebin the output of 'ip addr && ifconfig'
[22:26] <toad`> ok
[22:26] <toad`> so Im assuming I check Specifiy partitions manually
[22:26] <toad`> ok
[22:27] <DrSlony> i think my solution is different: how do I install a 32 bit cairo package, for example?
[22:27] <vorbis5> pfifo, thanks for replying... I pretty good with computers but completely new with ubuntu. what is pastebin?
[22:27] <toad`> so do I hit 'revert'? 'change'?'delete'? pfifo
[22:27] <pfifo> !pastebin | vorbis5
[22:27] <alexsn> vorbis5: run 'tcpdump -i <iface> icmp' where iface is not interface (e.g. eth0)
[22:27] <DrSlony> im sure for a 32 bit ubuntu it would just suffice to type "sudo apt-get install cairo", so how do I specify a 32 bit version when running that from a 64 bit one?
[22:27] <pfifo> toad`, "format" and use as "/"
[22:28] <toad`> there is no 'format'
[22:28] <pfifo> DrSlony, you cant, you would have to build from source
[22:28] <toad`> just what I said
[22:28] <toad`> change, delete, revert
[22:28] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: dpkg -i --force-architecture *.deb
[22:28] <toad`> I'm at the installation setup menu
[22:28] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: but that would conflict with the rest of your system
[22:28] <Angelous> Hey, how do I figure out what port my SSH sever is running on? I forget.
[22:28] <alexsn> vorbis5: then open another terminal and try pinging
[22:28] <centHOGG> 22
[22:28] <toad`> pfifo, ?
[22:29] <pfifo> toad`, change, then use as / and click format ext4
[22:29] <alexsn> vorbis5: if you see sends with no replies it's not your machine
[22:29] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: the fastest was on a amd64 system to compile for i386 is indeed a chroot.
[22:29] <vorbis5> k ill try that
[22:29] <Angelous> That's default, I'm wanting a command that will tell me without having to look in the sshd_config
[22:29] <DrSlony> eh ok, thank you
[22:29] <toad`> what do you mean 'use as /'?
[22:29] <toad`> do I put a 'mount point;?
[22:29] <guntbert> Angelous: lsof -i | grep ssh
[22:29] <toad`> o is that what you mean, 'mount point: /'?
[22:29] <Ampelbein> DrSlony: there is some work going on to make 64 and 32 bit packages co-installable (http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/) but not all libraries have been converted yet.
[22:29] <toad`> click format? aswell I assume?
[22:29] <alexsn> toad`:  / means root
[22:30] <toad`> ok
[22:30] <toad`> cool
[22:30] <toad`> and ext4 journaling is what I want?
[22:30] <toad`> ok
[22:30] <toad`> here goes
[22:30] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:30] <toad`> im going to hit 'ok'
[22:30] <pfifo> toad`, yes the mount point should be "/" the filesystem should be "ext4" and there should be a checkbox to make it format or delete data
[22:31] <diytto> Can someone help me?
[22:31] <green91> sure
[22:31] <vorbis5> alexsn: its telling me eth0 is not a directory
[22:32] <alexsn> vorbis5: type 'ip link show'
[22:32] <toad`> awesome thanks pfifo its installing now
[22:32] <alexsn> paste the output here
[22:32] <guntbert> diytto: you have to ask your question before we can know :)
[22:32] <diytto> green91: I tried to install windows on its partition, but now it screwed up grup and I cant load my ubuntu
[22:32] <diytto> :/
[22:32] <pfifo> !grub | green91
[22:33] <green91>  you generally want to install windows first prior to installing linux/grub
[22:33] <green91> yes, i know what grub is
[22:33] <diytto> Yeaaa
[22:33] <diytto> Uhh
[22:33] <diytto> I forgot
[22:33] <diytto> :p
[22:33] <pfifo> oops wrong dude
[22:33] <FloodBot1> diytto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:33] <alexsn> diytto: try googling it, it's a really common question
[22:33] <diytto> Okay cool
[22:33] <pfifo> !grub | diytto
[22:33] <vorbis5> alexsn, sorry, not to sure what to do from there
[22:34] <Ampelbein> !google | alexsn
[22:34] <vorbis5> vorbis5@solarlight:~$ ip link show
[22:34] <vorbis5> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN  link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
[22:35] <vorbis5> 2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:26:b9:0a:88:89 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:35] <vorbis5> 3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:24:d6:09:ce:b0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:35] <toad`> diytto,
[22:35] <toad`> did you install ubuntu first and then windows?
[22:35] <green91> diytto: you're gonna need to use the livecd to fix grub so that its put back in your mbr
[22:35] <diytto> Well
[22:35] <toad`> I've always installed windows first fresh, then installed ubuntu and itll instal GRUB accordinly
[22:35] <usr13> vorbis5: What is it you are trying to do?
[22:35] <toad`> and it works perfectly eacht ime
[22:35] <alexsn> vorbis5: you're using wireless right?
[22:35] <vorbis5> alexsn, yup
[22:35] <diytto> I actually need to reformat a partition on my hdd
[22:36] <diytto> And use ubuntu
[22:36] <diytto> Then i can install windows
[22:36] <pfifo> green91, be a power user ;) http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[22:36] <alexsn> vorbis5: ok then, run 'tcpdump -i wlan0 icmp &'
[22:36] <toad`> no install windows first man
[22:36] <toad`> then ubuntu
[22:36] <toad`> itll do GRUB automatically
[22:36] <diytto> Well i already have both installed
[22:36] <diytto> :/
[22:36] <diytto> Im not reinstalling both again
[22:36] <alexsn> vorbis5: then ping something
[22:37] <pfifo> diytto, read that link ubottu gave you it has step by step instructions
[22:37] <diytto> Easier to just fix grub
[22:37] <diytto> pfifo: I got that thanks :)
[22:37] <vorbis5> alexsn, "vorbis5@solarlight:~$ tcpdump: wlan0: You don't have permission to capture on that device" :(
[22:37] <alexsn> vorbis5: type 'sudo -s'
[22:37] <alexsn> vorbis5: then try again
[22:38] <diytto> How can I reformat a partition in Ubuntu? :p
[22:38] <guntbert> alexsn: sudo -i is "slightly" better in terms of setting a proper environment
[22:39] <pfifo> diytto, mke2fs mkfs mkreiserfs mkdosfs
[22:39] <diytto> O.o
[22:39] <diytto> Erm
[22:39] <alexsn> diytto: by reformat you mean create a new partition or a new filesystem?
[22:39] <guntbert> diytto: not all commands at once :)
[22:39] <pfifo> guntbert, lol
[22:40] <tripelb> diytto: I'm wanting to do that but I'm antsy about losing some data. I know what you do is to reboot from a livecd (and thus you are rebooting NOT from the partion you wish to change) and then you use gparted to do it.   -- alexsn I'm in the converstion too.
[22:40] <guntbert> pfifo: :)
[22:40] <vorbis5> alexsn, that worked, but when i ping from there its still telling me he host is unknown
[22:40] <diytto> Create a new filesystem on the partition
[22:40] <alexsn> vorbis5: did you configured dns servers?
[22:40] <lapion> hello I have found an important security flaw in the apt system
[22:41] <tripelb> diytto, oh you want something different than I do. (dont forget to back up anything on the partion that you want to keep.
[22:41] <pfifo> here it comes
[22:41] <NoWayJose> Do I need to have an internet connection to install Ubuntu on a system along with Windows using the Wubi program?
[22:41] <tripelb> NoWayJose, nope
[22:41] <NoWayJose> tripelb, Where does it get the data from?
[22:41] <tripelb> NoWayJose, I take it back. I dont know.
[22:41] <tripelb> for sure.
[22:41] <NoWayJose> heh, ok
[22:42] <tripelb> NoWayJose, I take it back. I dont know. --- but this looks like it knows https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[22:42] <pfifo> NoWayJose, are you saying your windows dosent have internet?
[22:42] <diytto> Well the partition is currently Fat32 for windows, which i want it to be, but i want it to be a fresh partition with nothing on it
[22:42] <NoWayJose> pfifo, correct
[22:42] <wildbat> Wubi is slow == y ppl using it ?
[22:43] <centHOGG> vfat32... win98?
[22:43] <pfifo> wildbat, partitioning is scary
[22:43] <tripelb> wubi also means you cant get your data unless you boot into that windows. So if windows goes so does your data
[22:43] <lapion> Today when I was at a train station where there is wifi delivered by my isp, when I did an update of the apt-system, the apt-system downloaded the login page for the wifi
[22:43] <NoWayJose> My laptop is also 64-bit....will the 32-bit ubuntu work on there, or is it a must that I use the 64-bit?
[22:43] <pfifo> NoWayJose, I dont know either but if you do then they wasted 699MB of packages on the CD
[22:43] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:44] <centHOGG> 64bit better than 32
[22:44] <th0r> NoWayJose: you can use 32bit on a 64 bit machine
[22:44] <tripelb> pfifo I dont know if this is good advice but sHe could use ubuntu from a flashdrive.
[22:44] <centHOGG> pleez
[22:44] <NoWayJose> ok thanks.
[22:44] <alexsn> NoWayJose: 32bit will work just fine
[22:44] <wildbat> pfifo: it is more scary when you see CPU usage in disk access under Wubi ~
[22:44] <lapion> an put it in the list directory of the apt system, and all the package managers crashed until I deleted all files in the list folder and updated the lists (after logging in)
[22:44] <tripelb> wildbat, could you expalin that to me (CPU usage in disk access under Wubi
[22:45] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:45] <pfifo> wildbat, yo dawg we heard you like operating systems
[22:45] <NoWayJose> pfifo, I was just wondering, because the wubi exe wasn't but 4MB...then it put ubuntu on this system with no problem...i am guessing it downloaded it from somewhere which made me think it needed an internet connection
[22:45] <centHOGG> !idiot
[22:45] <allu2> Hello, i got a problem with unity 2d, the unity button is on wrong screen on my dual screen system, the side bar does appear when i move mouse on it, but on the screen left to me while the button is on left corner of the right screen.
[22:46] <sobaida> guys newbie here can somebody teach me how to use aircrack
[22:46] <allu2> so pressing the side bar i impossible without pressing the unity button as when i move off from it it hides again
[22:46] <pfifo> NoWayJose, there are all the base and main packages on the CD itself, thats usually where you get your packages from during a normal install.
[22:46] <colin_> hi
[22:46] <colin_> plz hepl
[22:46] <NoWayJose> pfifo, I had no CD in it..
[22:46] <th0r> sobaida: that really doesn't come under the pervue of ubuntu support
[22:46] <allu2> sobaida: if you give me 10 mins maybe :P
[22:46] <diytto> So how can I reformat this partition? Can i do it in Disk Utility?
[22:46] <lapion> sobaida, we do not condone or help people using things such as aircrack... please use the google or read the man somewhere
[22:47] <wildbat> tripelb: it use NTFS and loop mount the root image ~ and ntfs under linux is CPU hogging ~ so
[22:47] <sobaida> ohhh
[22:47] <NoWayJose> wth is aircrack?
[22:47] <pfifo> NoWayJose, then perhaps it just sets up a pre-install enviroment and finishes the rest later on
[22:47] <colin_> im in zorin, when i press on a new window, the ones infront, move out the way and go behind, i dont like this animation, but i dont see how to turn it off
[22:47] <sobaida> i am having a hard time understanding thingd here
[22:47]  * diytto waits
[22:47]  * pfifo fires up his XP VM
[22:48] <wildbat> NoWayJose: it sniff data and crack the Wifi Key
[22:48] <sobaida> allu2 pls teach me?
[22:48] <NoWayJose> wildbat, ah ok thanks
[22:48] <NoWayJose> appreciate you guys, later.
[22:48] <sobaida> allu2 pls teach me?
[22:48] <linuxtweaker36> anyway to change the permissions of the "halt" command so that common users can execute it and shutdown the computer?
[22:48] <diytto> Can I reformat my 8GB FAT32 partition in a live cd? I want it to be an empty patition for a windows XP install.
[22:48] <colin_> can anyone stop my windows from shuffling?
[22:49] <allu2> sobaida: i pm you
[22:49] <vorbis5> alexsn, haha sorry i keep bothering you, closed irc by accident. anyway, it still says that the host is unknown when i try pinging to the comp on my network
[22:49] <sobaida> ok
[22:49] <bindi> diytto: could do that in xp install, no?
[22:49] <sobaida> go ahed allu2
[22:49] <diytto> bindi: Im not sure :s
[22:49] <wildbat> diytto: are you on Live CD ? you can't format a OS while it is running . and you can do it in gparted in LiveCD
[22:49] <diytto> wildbat: I am on a live cd
[22:50] <wildbat> diytto: run Gparted then
[22:50] <muay-guy> hello, has anyone succesfully installed firefox4 + flash in 10.04?
[22:51] <alexsn> vorbis5: what do you ping exactly?
[22:51] <diytto> wildbat: Perfect thanks.
[22:51] <pythoned> Hello, for a ubuntu beginner what books can you recommend except the ubuntu help? I tried googleing but I found only old books about ubuntu.
[22:51] <diytto> Would NTFS or FAT32 be better for windowsxp
[22:52] <vorbis5> alexsn, "ping chiara-pc" (my moms computer upstairs)
[22:52] <th0r> pythoned: check the linux documentation project...tldp.org
[22:52] <wildbat> diytto: NTFS
[22:52] <diytto> wildbat: Thanks
[22:53] <G00053> just bought an ssd and i want to move my os install over to it, whats the best approach ?
[22:53] <alexsn> vorbis5: do you have a dns server on your network or something?
[22:53] <tripelb> diytto, sometimes people who are sopistocated dont understand the simple squestions.  When you use the installer, it will reformat the partition.
[22:53] <th0r> vorbis5: if you don't have dns on your local network you need to add that hostname to /etc/hosts
[22:54] <pfifo> !clone | G00053
[22:54] <vorbis5> th0r, is that hostname like my wan ip?
[22:55] <th0r> vorbis5: no, on your local network you will use local ip addresses...probably 192.168.x.x, you need to add the hostname and ip address to /etc/hosts for anything you want to 'ping' by name
[22:55] <pythoned> th0r,  Thanks so much
[22:56] <th0r> pythoned: your local ip addresses are probably dynamic...they are subject to change on reboot
[22:56] <G00053> pfifo , what your saying is to do a fresh install and just reinstall my packages ? is there any way to just make a direct copy of whats on my hdd ?
[22:56] <sylar_> locam adress is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:56] <pythoned> th0r,  ?
[22:56] <tripelb> diytto, windows XP will reformat the partition too. The installers all do that.
[22:56] <pythoned> th0r,  I think you got the wrong person :)
[22:56] <pfifo> G00053, sure, rsync is best for that, but a reinstall is probably quicker
[22:56] <sveinse> Is there I way I can determine the dirs and order of dirs ld.so is searching for so's?
[22:56] <diytto> Okay
[22:56] <th0r> sylar_: no, that is the loop address, there is also a local ip addres for the net
[22:56] <muay-guy> I keep getting asked to go to http://get.adobe.com/es/flashplayer/ to install flash because I've installef firefox 4
[22:56] <sylar_> [sylar@sylar ~]$ cat /etc/hosts
[22:56] <sylar_> <IP_ADDRESS>	sylar	localhost.localdomain	localhos
[22:57] <olskolirc> so go muay-guy
[22:57] <lolmatic> hi
[22:57] <lolmatic> how do i mount a folder with its sub folders in another folder read only?
[22:57] <muay-guy> but when I install it I get a message from chrome (i'm doing this in chrome, firefox doesn't even allow me to load apt) I get a "Package 'adobe-flashplugin' is virtual" exception
[22:57] <tripelb> pythoned There is a website called introduction to linux I finally found a good one. It's HTML and its free. It's all text.
[22:57] <diytto> !grub2 > diytto
[22:57] <olskolirc> adobe 10 should be in your repository muay-guy
[22:57] <vorbis5> thor, alexsn, ok but when i enter a folder like /home/vorbis5/Documents it says "Operations on this network are disabled because there is no network connection." whats going on there?
[22:57] <Psycho_Mario> hi, is it possible to run a command when ubuntu comes back up after suspend to ram?
[22:57] <muay-guy> well, firefox doesn't seem to be loading it
[22:57] <th0r> sylar_: right, that is the loop address for the local host. If you want to ping other computers by name, and don't have dns, you need to add their hostname/ip to that file
[22:57] <dijonyummy123> i setup vsftp and ftp to mounted cifs. i can put a new file there but for some reason cannot overwite an existing file from ftp, any idea
[22:58] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin muay-guy
[22:58] <pfifo> muay-guy, goto a command line and type 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[22:58] <muay-guy> olskolirc, I downloaded firefox and just left it in ~/bin/firefox though
[22:58] <muay-guy> should I move it somewhere else
[22:58] <G00053> pfifo: fair enough . I can deal with fresh, so since i'm going to keep my dataon a  seperate drive than the os how do i go about setting up my home folder ?
[22:58] <vorbis5> thor, alexsn, operatoins on this *folder...
[22:58] <olskolirc> ok you have to create a soft link
[22:58] <muay-guy> pfifo, I've done that alread
[22:58] <muay-guy> I think the problem is that the firefox folder is not where it's supposed to be
[22:59] <muay-guy> I have it in my home folder
[22:59] <muay-guy> Where should I move it to?
[22:59] <pfifo> G00053, I would use the ssd as my homedrive, thats the speed bottleneck, but either way you want is taken care of in the partitioning screen of the installer
[23:00] <alexsn> vorbis5: one step at a time
[23:00] <alexsn> vorbis5: what are you trying to do, from where?
[23:01] <runelind> I want to install a newer version of openssh detailed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:5.3p1-3ubuntu7
[23:01] <runelind> how do I go about it?  download that .tgz file or is there a ppa I can add?
[23:01] <pfifo> muay-guy, what is this firefox folder in your home? you shouldnt have anything like that
[23:02] <muay-guy> pfifo, I downloaded the tar.gz and uncompressed it there
[23:02] <vorbis5> alexsn, not really sure. i just installed ubuntu so im trying learn a few things. on my win7 in cmd i could just "ping chiara-pc" and it would ping that computer because i was on the network. it seems that im not connected to a network right now
[23:02] <pfifo> muay-guy, ubuntu comes with ff4 now, you dont have to run it like that.
[23:02] <G00053> pfifo:  right just trying to plan this before i pull out my knife... I've got a 64gb ssd and a 1tb hdd . so i think what i'll do is use the hdd for backup of my home folder and for my media. does that sound right ?
[23:02] <lolmatic> how do i mount a folder with its sub folders in another folder read only?
[23:03] <olskolirc> type locate flashplugin-alternative.so muay-guy.  then you will know where to soft link it from
[23:03] <alexsn> vorbis5: show me your ip addresses type: 'ip addr show'
[23:03] <muay-guy> I just added the mozilla repository and I'm upgrading
[23:04] <pfifo> G00053, if you want to get exotic, make a 64 gb raid 1 with mdadm and make it a folder for extreme fast access data
[23:04] <pfifo> G00053, or maybe try mounting the ssd at /home/G00053/Downloads
[23:04] <potisadictos> hi
[23:05] <potisadictos> anybody chating with me now?
[23:05] <zerosniper> guntbert: you still here? anyone know how i can remove ebox from my installations?
[23:05] <vorbis5> alexsn, under wlan0 i found "inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24"
[23:06] <pfifo> it is storming here, lots of lightning, i might get disconnected
[23:06] <alexsn> vorbis5: ok, what other machines are there on the network?
[23:06] <th0r> vorbis5: in windows you have a
[23:06] <alexsn> vorbis5: if you don't know you're need to run a scan
[23:07] <th0r> vorbis5: (oops) 'workgroup' and that is why you could access the other computer
[23:07] <danny> Hey, I think my help thread on ubuntu forums may have died (the guys hasn't responded in a number of hours). Can someone take a look please? the url is ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10954391#post10954391
[23:07] <vorbis5> alexsn, how do i run that scan?
[23:08] <alexsn> you'll need to download nmap: 'sudo apt-get install nmap'
[23:08] <vorbis5> k done
[23:09] <danny> Does anyone have time to check out my thread or should I try a different channel?
[23:09] <sylar_> vorbis5: wlan0 is your wifi adress, to know your bridge you nedd to do "ip route show"
[23:09] <Kr3m1in> I need help regarding my wifi...
[23:09] <alexsn> vorbis5: run: 'nmap -v -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24 | grep -v down'
[23:10] <pfifo> danny, this is in a virtual machine?
[23:10] <danny> Pfifo: yes
[23:10] <Diamondcite> danny: You did the modprobe incorrectly
[23:10] <danny> Diamondcite: oh, how do I do it then?
[23:10] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi in Ubuntu?
[23:10] <Diamondcite> danny: Try "sudo modprobe rtl8187"
[23:10] <pfifo> danny, you cant use that usb device in a virtual machine iirc, only usb storage will work
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody please help me with my wifi?
[23:11] <danny> pfifo: Oh, so I need to dualboot?
[23:11] <th0r> Kr3m1in: you have given us way too much information about your problem....everyone is confused
[23:11] <pfifo> danny, what you need todo is bridge the wireless connection from windows into your VM
[23:11] <Diamondcite> pfifo: Really? I thought Virtual box had the USB working to some extent.
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> th0r: Too much information?
[23:11] <pfifo> Diamondcite, usb mass storage for USB 1.0
[23:11] <danny> pfifo: I have wireless in my VM, but I need to access the actual device for kismet
[23:11] <Kr3m1in> th0r: That must be sarcasm...
[23:12] <Diamondcite> pfifo: But my vbox has usb 2.0 support x.x
[23:12] <vorbis5> alexsn, well i found 192.168.70 .78 .83 .85 and .86
[23:12] <danny> diamondcite: same thing, this time it just asked for my sudo password
[23:12] <pfifo> danny, you need to dualboot, or check out the aircrack livecd for a ready to go patched ndiswrapped drivers for kismet
[23:12] <wildbat> danny: you need sudo for modprobe
[23:12] <danny> diamondcite: I think I incorrectly installed the driver
[23:12] <danny> wildbat: I get the same error when I sudo
[23:13] <Pipmas> Hello, I wish to auto mount a partition on startup. It is called windows and is ntfs, it's address is /dev/sda2. I am not sure what to add to fstab
[23:13] <alexsn> vorbis5: do you know the ip of the machine you're trying to reach?
[23:13] <danny> pfifo: Ready to go? As in I install the things from the cd and my usb device will plug n play?
[23:13] <alexsn> vorbis5: it can be either one of those
[23:13] <vorbis5> alexsn, true haha give me a sec and ill find out
[23:13] <pfifo> danny, ready to go as you put the cd in your computer and boot, no install or anything
[23:13] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi? There is no 'wireless connection' option on my menu.
[23:14] <pfifo> danny backtrack and aircrack livecd are both like that
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: oh I see
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: I tried to use backtrack too but it didn't recognize my usb thing
[23:14] <Kr3m1in> Can somebody help me with my wifi? There is no 'wireless connection' option in my menu
[23:14] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: is the wireless can up?
[23:14] <danny> pfifo: albeit in VM
[23:14] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: type 'ip link show'
[23:14] <pfifo> danny, youll never get it to work in a vm
[23:15] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: in the terminal?
[23:15] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: yes
[23:15] <pfifo> danny, just boot that CD and your set!
[23:15] <Pipmas> Can anyone help me with a fstab entry? :)
[23:15] <alexsn> Pipmas: sure
[23:15] <danny> pfifo: Ok, would the same work for backtrack?
[23:15] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Ok, what am i looking for?
[23:15] <Pipmas> alexsm:  I wish to auto mount a partition on startup. It is called windows and is ntfs, it's address is /dev/sda2. I am not sure what to add to fstab
[23:16] <Pipmas> woops typo on the name :P
[23:16] <danny> pfifo: Like, could I boot from the backtrack live cd and have everything ready to go?
[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: what entries do you have there