[00:00] <daftjack> Bashing-om:I actually think it removed it when I did the xubuntu-desktop install. Saw it remove a bunch of items and was concerned but figure if it imploded I could recover one way or another.
[00:01] <Bashing-om> daftjack: :D - when exploding we do get to keep all the pieces.
[00:38] <daftjack> Bashing-om: FYI more problems. You logout of an xfce session and all it does is restarts the WM from what I can tell. Never logs you out. UG
[00:40] <Bashing-om> daftjack: I too run xfce but have never ran into that. What results when shutting down from terminal ?
[00:42] <daftjack> Bashing-om:xfce3-session-logout just pops up the same dialog for logout, restart, shutdown, suspend. Pressing logout just restarts the session but never logs out.
[00:42] <daftjack> If I outright kill -9 stuff then yep. It logs out. LOL
[00:45] <daftjack> Now its really mad. Keeps popping up another dialog about session manager must be in idle state when requesting a shutdown which I didnt I requested a logout. FYI I just installed Ubuntu today so its not like this is an upgrade or a year of junk hanging around.
[00:47] <chris11> I have a server running <IP_ADDRESS> LTS How do I get environmental variables to automatically source when I log in via ssh? I've tried editing .bashrc and .bash_profile, but those aren't automatically sourced.
[00:47] <Bashing-om> daftjack: What about with terminal command ' systemctl poweroff' ? maybe then we can point to some script failing in the GUI.
[00:48] <daftjack> Yah I can command line force a poweroff. This is entirely something the xfce session or maybe lightdm is doing.
[00:49] <daftjack> What is the purpose of "Indicator Plugin" on the panel? It has a lot of duplicate items that are their own panel items or repeated in other areas like menus or in the notification plugin.
[00:49] <daftjack> It as if it has its own session management caller.
[00:51] <daftjack> Um so if I go into the Indicator Plugin and hide the session management button in it the logout now seems to work. Still testing as might just be coincidence.
[00:53] <daftjack> No joy. Same problem I dont know why it suddenly worked once now doesnt again.
[00:55] <Scriptonaut> hey all, I edited my /etc/crontab file directly with vim. It's not running my cronjobs. When I do: sudo crontab -e, I get a completely unrelated file (doesn't have the stuff the original crontab file had in it). Any idea why there's that inconsistency there?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> daftjack: Sorry. I just have no ideas:(
[00:59] <daftjack> Scriptonaut:I presume you made sure you are the user you want to edit as?
[00:59] <sarnold> crontab -e will edit the *users*'s crontab; probably you were editing /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root or similar
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> yes, root
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> I want to edit the system cron
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> so as root, I did: vim /etc/crontab
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> added my jobs (with the user, root, specified)
[00:59] <Scriptonaut> restarted cron
[01:00] <Scriptonaut> not seeing them in the syslog, jobs I added previously are running though
[01:00] <sarnold> no need to restart cron to pick up a changed crontab
[01:00] <Scriptonaut> ah ok
[01:00] <sarnold> it re-reads and reparses files every single minute. heh.
[01:01] <Scriptonaut> h wait nevermind I see it now
[01:01] <Scriptonaut> at least some of them
[01:01] <Scriptonaut> is there a crontab syntax checker if you're not using crontab -e to edit?
[01:02] <Scriptonaut> like a command that will check crontab, cron.d/*, etc
[01:02] <sarnold> I don't believe so, no
[01:08] <Bashing-om> daftjack: If no others here can assist, there is #xfce channel.
[01:12] <daftjack> Bashing-om:Thanks for the ear and recommends. Running xfce4-sessions-logout now works consistently but it is the same dialog. Very odd. Its like another session manager is overriding. Ill keep poking at it over time. Goofy work around.
[01:15] <chris11> what does this do? if command -v pyenv 1>/dev/null 2>&1; then\n  eval "$(pyenv init -)"\nfi It goes in my .bashrc and is for using pyenv when I type pyenv command
[01:20] <sarnold> chris11: take a look at 'help command' -- it'll explain what 'command' is doing better than I can :)
[01:22] <chris11> ok, thanks.
[01:39] <Phruis`> you guys should just remove nodejs from the repos
[01:39] <Phruis`> it is so old
[02:06] <Antonyb> hello guys i could reallyuse some assistance im trying to install xubuntu but it says the grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/ without the grub boot loader the installed system will not boot,i currently dont have any os so any assistance appreciated
[02:07] <sarnold> Antonyb: do you have an EFI partition on that disk? I see a bunch of bug reports filed from folks who try to do an EFI install but don't have an EFI filessytem
[02:08] <Antonyb> the harddrive was completely blank before trying to install, so im not sure
[02:09] <Antonyb> well i did a erase all installl xubuntu
[02:10] <Antonyb> im completely lost right now,  im currenting still using the usb
[02:12] <Antonyb> any suggestions?
[02:12] <Antonyb> because right now ive got nothing
[02:14] <Antonyb> should i just do a custom partition?
[02:15] <OerHeks> boot the usb in live + uefi mode, clean disk, and start the installer again?
[02:16] <OerHeks> maybe do a manual EFI partition, see !uefi
[02:16] <OerHeks> !uefi
[02:19] <antonyb> ok ive restarted   in my boot menu the usb stick was the only option it didnt say anything about uefi  ill try and do a custom partition now
[02:19] <sarnold> antonyb: < OerHeks> boot the usb in live + uefi mode, clean disk, and start the installer again? < OerHeks> maybe do a manual EFI partition, see !uefi  ubottu> UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please
[02:19] <sarnold> read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:20] <sarnold> antonyb: maybe check the bios to see if you're doing legacy or uefi or if it is suspicously silent on the whole thing
[02:23] <antonyb> its uefi
[02:29] <antonyb> ok im still confused it failed again but  i have a /target/boot/efi  file
[02:29] <antonyb> which is fat32
[02:29] <antonyb> like it says
[02:30] <sarnold> cool cool, how large did you make it?
[02:30] <antonyb> 1gb
[02:30] <antonyb> and i got the same error
[02:30] <antonyb> failed to install
[02:30] <antonyb> ive took a screenshot
[02:32] <antonyb> just figuring out how to put it in the ubuntu pastebin
[02:32] <antonyb> :P
[02:32] <antonyb> im having a bad day
[02:34] <sarnold> antonyb: ubuntu's pastebin doesn't do images; imgur.com seems popular
[02:35] <antonyb> i didnt know if thatwas allowed
[02:35] <antonyb> ill do it now
[02:35] <antonyb> http://i.imgur.com/BUrd17U.png
[02:36] <antonyb> http://i.imgur.com/zKI56wX.png
[02:37] <sarnold> can you get to a shell to run journalctl or check /var/log/syslog? the installer should log something much more informative
[02:37] <antonyb> im pretty new to linux
[02:38] <sarnold> btw you probably don't need a swap partition that large unless you want to use suspend to disk -- I don't know if we support that or not -- but a gigabyte swap file is probably fine
[02:39] <antonyb> http://i.imgur.com/eNzMhSz.png
[02:39] <antonyb> i hope it can be resolved some how
[02:39] <sarnold> nice
[02:40] <sarnold> if you pastebin /var/log/syslog I can give it a quick look
[02:40] <antonyb> http://i.imgur.com/S4j1wQE.png
[02:40] <antonyb> oh right
[02:40] <antonyb> sorry
[02:40] <antonyb> ill do that now
[02:40] <sarnold> can you install pastebinit ? or nc ? those would be far easier than other methods..
[02:41] <sarnold> yikes PCI bus errors :/
[02:41] <antonyb> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qT69D6HNTf/
[02:43] <antonyb> if it helps i had ubuntu running fine on it earlier
[02:43] <antonyb> but xubuntu oesnt want to play ball
[02:44] <antonyb> i really dont want to go back to windows 10 :(
[02:45] <OerHeks> did you disable scureboot?
[02:45] <antonyb> yes
[02:45] <antonyb> i can double check though and make sure
[02:45] <antonyb> brb
[02:46] <sarnold> OerHeks: I don't have any good ideas :/
[02:46] <OerHeks> lets see about bios, LENOVO 81H1/LNVNB161216, BIOS 8PCN45WW 08/17/2018
[02:47] <sarnold> fwupd[4387]: disabling plugin because: failed to startup uefi: Error opening directory “/boot/efi”: No such file or directory
[02:47] <sarnold> I wonder if that's normal in whatever environment was loaded.. itmight be
[02:47] <OerHeks> BIOS Update	8PCN57WW	22 Oct 2019	7.53 MB	Recommended
[02:47] <OerHeks> ai, that needs windows
[02:47] <antonyb> ok im back
[02:47] <antonyb> its in uefi bootmode and secure boot disabled
[02:48] <antonyb> so im not sure what the issue is
[02:48] <OerHeks> oke, just checked your bios version, there is a BIOS Update	8PCN57WW	22 Oct 2019	7.53 MB	Recommended
[02:48] <OerHeks> old = BIOS Update	8PCN57WW	22 Oct 2019	7.53 MB	Recommended
[02:48] <OerHeks> LENOVO 81H1/LNVNB161216, BIOS 8PCN45WW 08/17/2018
[02:48] <antonyb> ill need to install windows then  to update it
[02:48] <OerHeks> but that needs windows, afaik
[02:49] <antonyb> like i said earlier ubuntu 19.10 ran fine
[02:49] <antonyb> but xbuntu doesnt want to work
[02:50] <sarnold> hmm if you can get ubuntu of some sort on there, fwupd may be able to do the update
[02:50] <sarnold> the bios update would be nice though, some cpu flaws can only be fixed via bios update. (I don't know of any that affect mobile CPUs, but I wouldn't be surprised if one is found eventually)
[02:51] <antonyb> luckally i have a 2nd pc,  but i cant get linux mint to work even after nomodeset something errors out, i know its not supporte here,  and i cant get xbuntu to work    works fine on my older machine downstairs
[02:51] <antonyb> at the minute im using this laptop in usb mode
[02:52] <sarnold> a bios update *might* also fix those pcie errors
[02:52] <sarnold> maybe that's hardware problem
[02:52] <sarnold> maybe it's busted firmware
[02:52] <antonyb> and what if it doesnt?
[02:54] <antonyb> i dont think it likes my hardware
[02:56] <antonyb> so far im just pulling my hair out because i dont know what to do
[03:04] <antonyb> doesnt seem to be a solution either
[03:10] <antonyb> decided to log into the chatroom on my computer while i try and figure out whats wrong with the lapto
[03:10] <antonyb> so frustrating
[03:14] <antonyb> ill try another ubuntu flavor if that doesnt work ill have to go back to windows 10
[03:24] <CarlFK> antonyb: I only skimmed over whats going on, but it reminds me of installing linux over ThinOS on a https://www.dellemc.com/en-us/wyse/index.htm  ...
[03:25] <CarlFK> he ended up deleting al the entries with efibootmgr and then adding a new one
[03:25] <CarlFK> then it booted.
[03:25] <antonyb> it just takes me to a website about buying computers :P
[03:27] <antonyb> im wondering if the issue is i was trying to install 18.04 on a laptop that came out at end of 2018?  i bought it march 2019
[03:27] <CarlFK> I would not advice trying to install Linux on something that isn't a computer
[03:27] <antonyb> laptops in the past ive had no issues with
[03:28] <antonyb> and like i said earlier  19.10  ran fine
[03:28] <antonyb> ubuntu 19.10
[03:28] <antonyb> but i prefer xfce which is why im trying to install xubuntu
[03:29] <CarlFK> you can also try ubuntu and then install xfce
[03:29] <antonyb> i know i asked about that and then removing gnome,  but people said just install xubuntu on here
[03:29] <CarlFK> not this people
[03:29] <antonyb> i asked about 6 - 7 hours ago
[03:30] <antonyb> on here
[03:30] <CarlFK> also, if you have 30 min to waste, I would like to know if this works on your problem box: https://debconf-video-team.pages.debian.net/ansible/usb_install/usb_quick_start.html
[03:30] <CarlFK> if t works, you will have a minimal debian box running xfce and some video apps
[03:32] <CarlFK> I doubt you will want to use it for normal stuff, more just curious how well it works on problem boxes
[03:32] <jeremyy44> Hi
[03:32] <sharpie> so run 19.10..am i missing something?
[03:32] <jeremyy44> I am pretty new to ubuntu and I just installed it on my laptop but cant seem to be able to make my wifi work im gettin no wifi adapter found in my settings
[03:33] <antonyb> sharpie im putting xubuntu 19.10 on a penstick right now im going to see if that will install on my machine...
[03:37] <sharpie> jeremyy44, your going to have to check the chipset of your machines wifi chip for actual ubuntu wifi support4
[03:54] <scientes> does Ubuntu still release debian-installer DVDs?
[03:55] <scientes> all i can find is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/19.10/release/ubuntu-19.10-server-amd64.iso
[03:57] <Antonyb79> hey guys i managed to install xubuntu succesfully
[03:58] <Antonyb79> i was getting graphical glitches turns out i had to disable compositing
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Antonyb79: \o/
[03:59] <Antonyb79> unfortunately ive got screen tearing when moving windows around now
[04:00] <sarnold> scientes: I thought that link should be the debian installer, and this one is the newfangled one http://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/ubuntu-19.10-live-server-amd64.iso
[04:06] <Antonyb79> i think ive fixe the screen tearing now
[04:47] <macroprep> how do i kill a snap instance
[04:49] <macroprep> as i cant seem to kill it with pkill
[04:52] <macroprep> had to  log out in order to kill it ;-;
[04:55] <macroprep> ah fk i froze it again ;-;
[04:57] <macroprep> stupid unkillable snap program ;-;
[05:25] <johnjbogle1> Hello. I have a 1tb 860 EVO mSATA that is now not being detected, either direct to mainboard via secondary internal bay, &/or via usb external enclosure. I tried via usb enclosure on my laptop and on another ubuntu laptop. Both do not detect it. When I first formatted it (don't remember what filetype) it was installed internally connected to the mainboard in the secondary drive bay, and it was working fine for a while. Not sure what happened or why
[05:25] <johnjbogle1> or when it stopped being detected (roughly a few weeks ago). Any help available please? (moderately tech saavy, but still very much a linux novice here, fyi). TIA!
[05:29] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: when you say 'not being detected', does it show when you type $ sudo blkid
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> johnjbogle1: journalctl -f and plug in your device, pastebin us the output please
[05:32] <johnjbogle1> checking...
[05:34] <johnjbogle1> sorry I forget, how do I do the pastebin?
[05:36] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: cat file | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[05:38] <johnjbogle1> ponyrider: "cat: file: No such file or directory"
[05:39] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: sudo blkid | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[05:40] <johnjbogle1> ponyrider: http://ix.io/1NkT
[05:41] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: but you have to plug in your drive
[05:42] <johnjbogle1> ponyrider: it's plugged in, via usb external enclosure.
[05:44] <ponyrider> well the system is not finding it, so either its not being powered properly or not connected
[05:44] <johnjbogle1> Verified, it is connected properly.
[05:46] <ponyrider> so its dead :(
[05:47] <johnjbogle1> But it's a ssd
[05:47] <johnjbogle1> Brand new.
[05:48] <johnjbogle1> How is that even possible? I though ssd's are nearly fail-proof?
[05:49] <ponyrider> it could be that your usb enclosure is the problem. you can try plugging it in internally again. but yeah, manufacturing error?
[05:52] <johnjbogle1> Already have way too many errors and issues with this machine though, (only boots into Ubunutu On Wayland, headphone/mic jack doesn't work, webcam doesn't work, and probably a dozen and a half other issues that I can't remember about right now)... So it's possible I just need to update my bios then do a fresh OS reinstall. Hopefully that should clear things up.
[05:53] <johnjbogle1> I was just wondering if I might be able to access my data with some terminal code/commands before then.
[05:54] <Nosophorus> Hi
[06:02] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: like i said, plug it in internally to rule out any external enclosure shizz
[06:02] <johnjbogle1> Already did/
[06:03] <johnjbogle1> And just tested with 2 confirmed working enclosures :-/
[06:07] <ponyrider> johnjbogle1: https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5680874752/h3B6C1CD0/ssd-y-u-no-work
[06:07] <OerHeks> sad to read that; hardware breaks within a week, or after 5 years..
[06:16] <johnjbogle1> :'(
[06:26] <Intelo> Hi
[06:27] <Intelo> I did LimitNOFILE=65536  in /etc/systemd/system/some.service. How do I make sure that a) what are current number of files open by this and b) what is the max limit?
[06:31] <doug16k> Intelo, you can see the system-wide file limit with: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:32] <doug16k> it scales with your RAM
[06:32] <OerHeks> LimitNOFILE=infinity # makes it set to 65536, = max?
[06:33] <johnjbogle1> Logging out. Thanks for the help guys, always appreciated.
[06:33] <Intelo> doug16k, that will tell systemwide limit of course. All users combined. But I need the said a) and b) only
[06:34] <doug16k> it's typically max 4096 per process isn't it?
[06:36] <doug16k> ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn tell you the per-process "hard" and "soft" limits
[06:37] <doug16k> hard can only be raised by root, soft limit is the default unless the process increases it
[06:38] <doug16k> i.e. a process can setrlimit to raise it up to the hard limit at most
[06:39] <doug16k> s/it/the soft limit/
[06:41] <doug16k> the soft limit is what is applied to the process
[06:41] <doug16k> Intelo, is that what you mean?
[06:44] <doug16k> Intelo, you can use lsof -p some-pid-here to see how many files a particular process has open
[06:44] <Intelo> doug16k,  ok ; yes I gues
[06:45] <Intelo> lsof will list files and not give a count number I think
[06:45] <doug16k> right
[06:46] <doug16k> Intelo, pipe it to wc -l and subtract one
[06:47] <Intelo> btw, I had PIDFile=/tmp/nbk.pid   but there is no pid file despite service is running
[06:47] <Intelo> doug16k, lsof -p some-pid-here | wc -l
[06:47] <doug16k> yes
[06:48] <Intelo> I wonder about absence of pid file. I think I can't trace the pid then?
[06:48] <doug16k> where "files" means file descriptors. not necessarily all really files
[06:48] <doug16k> might be eventfds and stuff
[06:49] <Intelo> doug16k,  ya but still how to trace my service?
[06:52] <doug16k> Intelo, systemctl status your-service-here
[06:52] <doug16k> Main PID
[06:55] <Intelo> doug16k, I get 9 for sudo lsof -p 11383 | wc -l. Looks impossible. I wonder
[06:55] <Intelo> doug16k,  my node.js app usually get stuck due to too less ulimit
[06:55] <doug16k> or, systemctl show your-service-here -p MainPID
[06:55] <Intelo> doug16k,  9 is like nothing/ too less
[06:57] <doug16k> Intelo, that does sound odd, it probably has more .so files than that open
[06:58] <Intelo> doug16k, so why the odd difference?
[06:58] <doug16k> Intelo, what does this say: sudo lsof -p 11383 | awk '{print $5}'|grep REG|wc -l
[06:59] <Intelo> 3
[06:59] <doug16k> those are actually files
[06:59] <doug16k> not eventfds and devices etc etc
[06:59] <Intelo> ok. how to know file descriptors?
[06:59] <doug16k> just run: sudo lsof -p 11383
[06:59] <doug16k> it will list it all
[07:00] <Intelo> shows 8
[07:01] <doug16k> the wc -l includes that heading line, which is why I said subtract one earlier
[07:01] <Intelo> doug16k,  then if there are no much files + descripters, I wonder why I get EMFILE https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10355501/connect-emfile-error-in-node-js
[07:01] <Intelo> doug16k, ya subtraction understood
[07:01] <doug16k> under load though, right? could be a leak in the code that hasn't occurred yet
[07:02] <doug16k> spray it with some requests with ab
[07:02] <doug16k> (apache bench)
[07:02] <doug16k> assuming it is web serving
[07:03] <Intelo> its web serving;ya
[07:03] <Intelo> doug16k, under load;ya
[07:03] <doug16k> you can synthesize load with ab
[07:03] <Intelo> memory taken by it in status is just half a gig
[07:04] <Intelo> doug16k, are you sure its about memory or its about sockets/connections being too many?
[07:05] <doug16k> memory? I didn't say it is about memory
[07:05] <doug16k> you can leak file descriptors by not closing them
[07:05] <Intelo> ah...
[07:06] <Intelo> doug16k,  file descriptors while writing a file? well I am not writing any file in code. Only piping tee some log.txt in .service file
[07:06] <Intelo> the log file is near 4gig but not an issue I think.
[07:06] <doug16k> reading or writing
[07:06] <doug16k> you can leak sockets too
[07:06] <Intelo> doug16k,  the node.js code is not reading/writing anything to any file
[07:07] <doug16k> generate some webserver load with something like: generate some load with something like ab -n 500 -c 32 http://something.c0m/something
[07:07] <doug16k> that will download the url 500 times (and discard it) with 32 thread parallelism
[07:07] <Intelo> hm
[07:08] <doug16k> can do rest endpoint or whatever too. can pass auth headers or whatever, set cookies, etc
[07:09] <Intelo> k.. btw, how to check sockets open by this service?
[07:11] <doug16k> sudo lsof -i4 -i6 -itcp -p 11383
[07:12] <doug16k> ah sorry, -p seems ignored
[07:38] <murrayn> so i'm using cinnamon as DE, but I've got 40 processes running as 'gdm' e.g  /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/*, are these needed?
[07:55] <guiverc> murrayn, cinnamon is a front end over the gnome stack underneath (gtk+ etc), but I'm no expert.  I'd expect they are required.
[08:12] <Intelo> doug16k,  thanks anyway. Will return
[08:12] <amorris> Is it possible to not display title bars in Ubuntu 19.10?
[08:12]  * Intelo appreciates
[08:16] <BlueShark_> Hi
[08:17] <BlueShark_> snap install jq gives me this error "error: cannot communicate with server: Post http://localhost/v2/snaps/jq: dial unix /run/snapd.socket: connect: no such file or directory"
[08:17] <BlueShark_> Any idea why this could be?
[08:20] <BlueShark_> snap version output => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MFB7VpHm7p/
[08:26] <OerHeks> BlueShark_, on what linux version is this?
[08:26] <OerHeks> snapd should be standard >> systemctl status snapd.service
[08:27] <OerHeks> oh wait, you crosspost and have fun with volunteers
[08:27] <OerHeks> bye
[08:29] <BlueShark_> OerHeks that is discouraged?
[08:29] <BlueShark_> I didn't know
[08:29] <BlueShark_> I'm not having "fun", in any case.
[08:32] <murrayn> guiverc, i can confirm removing gnome didn't fix it :-/
[08:32] <ducasse> murrayn: which release is this?
[08:33] <lesshaste> I am trying to install https://inpaintgimpplugin.github.io. I followed the instructions and did make install. but when I go to Help->Plug-in Browswer I can't see it
[08:33] <lesshaste> how do I access the plug-in I just installed?
[08:37] <OerHeks> that 6 year old project page says:  fire up GIMP and the plug-in will be located under Filters->Misc->Inpainting...
[08:38] <OerHeks> not sure it is valid for gimp 2.8 today..
[08:39] <callipygous> hey
[08:39] <callipygous> is it possible to try Unity 8
[08:41] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop
[08:41] <callipygous> thanks, already googled that
[08:41] <callipygous> but the command doesn't work
[08:41] <OerHeks> install unity8-desktop-session, logout, select user, then change session
[08:41] <callipygous> not found in apt with Ubuntu 19
[08:42] <OerHeks> !info unity8-desktop-session eoan
[08:42] <OerHeks> oh
[08:43] <callipygous> ;(
[08:43] <callipygous> am I missing out on anything?
[08:43] <OerHeks> the old unity is just info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[08:43] <callipygous> I'm very disappointed with touchscreen support in Gnome3, Unity 7 seems better...
[08:44] <callipygous> but I *thought* *maybe* Unity 8 would be perfect
[08:44] <callipygous> though...it could be ... buggy
[08:44] <callipygous> dunno
[08:46] <lesshaste> I am on 16.04 and trying to install gmic via http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/06/install-gmic-2-0-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-16-04-14-04-higher/ . But I get E: Package 'libcurl4' has no installation candidate
[08:46] <lesshaste> when can I do?
[08:46] <callipygous> any thoughts?
[08:46] <lesshaste> the command line is sudo apt install gmic
[08:47] <ducasse> callipygous: unity 8 is very far from ready for general use
[08:50] <callipygous> ok, good to know ducasse :(
[08:50] <OerHeks> lesshaste,  there seems to be no backported libcurl4, so upgrade to 18.04?  https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial-updates/curl
[08:51] <callipygous> any recommendations for a good touch screen desktop environment?
[08:51] <lesshaste> OerHeks, but the page explicitly lists 16.04
[08:51] <OerHeks> lesshaste, yes, but the ppa owner is responsible for these issues
[08:52] <OerHeks> !ppa
[08:52] <lesshaste> OerHeks, hmm.. I really can't upgrade right now. I also tried to install from source but that also fails for a different reason
[08:53] <lesshaste> OerHeks, https://gmic.eu/download.shtml is the download page. Do you think it's possible on 16.04?
[08:54] <ducasse> callipygous: maybe kde would be worth a try? i really don't know, sorry
[08:54] <OerHeks> for gimp, this package gives 100+ plugins > gimp-plugin-registry
[08:55] <OerHeks> lesshaste, seems like for gimp 2.8 only
[08:55] <lesshaste> OerHeks,  I have 2.8
[08:55] <OerHeks> there is a huge jump in plugins, gimp 2.6 > 2.8
[08:55] <lesshaste> OerHeks,  what I don't know how to do is install that plugin
[08:56] <lesshaste> GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.8.16
[08:56] <lesshaste> that's the version of gimp I have
[08:56] <callipygous> thanks, but kde isn't really great with touchscreens, I don't even think it has an OSK
[08:57] <ducasse> callipygous: ok. i'd think something based on gnome3 would be best, so maybe unity or cinnamon if gnome itself doesn't work
[08:58] <ducasse> at least that's what's getting support for touch screens
[10:13] <tiox> Is infinality something I should add in my Ubuntu install to improve how fonts look? Or is there some secret sauce in some 19.10 DEs that make it irrelevant (or worse, detrimental to use) ?
[10:34] <OerHeks> how many snaps can i have installed? 40 max?
[10:34] <OerHeks> sudo snap install openspades
[10:55] <Ecko_> How would one convert a string to the encrypted password format /etc/shadow uses?
[10:58] <Ecko_> Nevermind found it
[10:58] <Ecko_> `mkpasswd -m sha-512 <string>`
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:11] <ryuo> Ecko_: depends what API you're thinking of using. crypt() is the function that is used to create them.
[11:19] <courrier> I'm testing a simple setup with only 2 computers: [Web + dockerised dnsmasq server (Ubuntu server)] <-> [client]
[11:19] <courrier> When performing a simple dig www.site.org from the client, it sometimes succeeds rapidly, sometimes succeeds with a long delay, and it often timeouts
[11:19] <courrier> It looks like the server is flooding itself because dnsmasq constantly displays (query[A] www.site.org from <IP_ADDRESS> forwarded www.site.org to <IP_ADDRESS> with "Maximum number of concurrent DNS queries reached (max: 150)" even if o more dig is running
[11:19] <courrier> Why does the request comes from the server's IP itself? It might be due to the docker config. Ubuntu server's systemd-resolved is down.
[11:26] <courrier> I'm testing a simple setup with only 2 computers: [Web + dockerized dnsmasq server] <-> [client]
[11:26] <courrier> When performing a simple dig www.site.org from the client, it sometimes succeeds rapidly, sometimes succeeds with a long delay, and it often timeouts
[11:26] <courrier> It looks like the server is flooding itself because dnsmasq constantly displays (query[A] www.site.org from <IP_ADDRESS> forwarded www.site.org to <IP_ADDRESS> with "Maximum number of concurrent DNS queries reached (max: 150)" even if o more dig is running
[11:26] <courrier> Why does the request comes from the server's IP itself? It might be due to the docker config
[11:26] <courrier> Oops sorry for the duplicate
[12:56] <isomari> greetings, Where can I get Calligra Flow for ubuntu?
[13:02] <mati_> Hi, I have a nice theme for GTK3 applications but it doesn't have slider backgrounds (screenshot:( https://imgur.com/wmUmQeB.png ). How can I change the background of sliders so that they are of different color than background?
[13:22] <ocx32> hello community, i have a linux machine and mounted a share as follow: cifs  username=u...,password=H...,iocharset=utf8,uid=root,gid=root  0  0   for some reason it mounts correctly, i can write to it as root but i cannot do a chown on it why?i get a permission denied even when i am root
[13:25] <squeezy> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68079/mount-cifs-network-drive-write-permissions-and-chown
[14:21] <vegetarisk> I'm trying to automount a SMB share with an fstab entry. It doesn't mount a boot time, but boots just fine with 'mount -a' so I don't think there's any syntax errors in the fstab entry.
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> vegetarisk: Your network might not be online yet when booting, failing to mount the remote share
[14:39] <Iarla> Is there a globalmenu for Gnome Shell like Unity had? I'm on 19.10. Also, a way to hide the big bar at the top of the windows (even just when maximized) would be great. Looks like the Gnome Global AppMenu project hasn't updated in a year.
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Iarla: can classicmenu-indicator help you?
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Iarla: oh you want probably the top bar menu's, you might want to take a look in dconf-editor
[14:57] <Iarla> lotuspsychje: I'll check those out now, thanks.
[14:57] <Iarla> It's the latter, if anything.
[14:58] <Iarla> This is the old project (screenshot) https://github.com/jiqing112/Gnome-Global-AppMenu
[15:06] <Iarla> Looks like installing Unity itself is the only way to get these features nowadays. When I have everything else set up and backed up, I'll give that a try.
[15:09] <bumbar_> i'm running 16.04 and installed newest nvidia drivers (430 something), and now pc doesn't boot (gets stuck just before it usually asks for disk password)
[15:10] <bumbar_> i've managed to get a root shell in recovery mode
[15:13] <Iarla> bumbar_: I found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1045981/ubuntu-wont-boot-after-switch-to-nvidia-graphics
[15:14] <Iarla> In summary, purge all nvidia packages. It's a while since I've been in this situation so I can't remember the details.
[15:18] <TanaPanda> Hello
[15:18] <TanaPanda> I have a problem I am trying to solve hopefully someone can help me
[15:19] <TanaPanda> I am streaming a video out of VLC. I want it to go out through ethernet. However when I connect to wifi vlc stops streaming out ethernet
[15:19] <TanaPanda> how can I change this so that even when connected to Wifi vlc still send the info out via ethernet?
[15:20] <Iarla> TanaPanda: #vlc might be of more help
[15:31] <bumbar_> Iarla, i've purged everything nvidia in recovery shell, and when i try normal boot with kernel that works, i get an error starting lightdm
[15:42] <tomreyn> bumbar_: if you're looking for help there, please consider disclosing the error message or erroneous behaviour.
[15:45] <bumbar_> erroneous behaviour is i've reinstalled several nvidia packages (418, 410, 396, 304) and tried with several linux images, and none of them work
[15:47] <lupulo> bumbar_, try to see https://bumblebee-project.org/
[15:48] <bumbar_> this is for notebooks, no?
[15:50] <Apachez> whats the proper way to enable desktop icons on 19.10?
[15:50] <Apachez> is through gnome extensions the only way? isnt there some setting through dconf one can alter instead of installing extensions?
[16:28] <johnjay> does anyone know how to change startup parameters for programs either from Activities or in Favorites?
[16:29] <johnjay> i think i have a program launching from /snap but i don't see a .desktop file for it
[16:42] <courrier> I have a dnsmasq process running in background in Ubuntu server, how can I know which service started it in order to disable this?
[16:51] <SimonNL> courrier: does systemctl reveal that info ?
[17:10] <Apachez> sonic trailer (2020)   old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mW9FE5ILJs   vs   new https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szby7ZHLnkA
[17:12] <keden> I'm having issues using the network-manager package on 19.10 to connect to wifi. Does anyone have recommendations around this at all?
[17:13] <keden> A quick online search led me to think that the package might still be unreliable.
[17:25] <akk> keden: Unreliable in what way?
[17:26]  * akk has never actually seen anything to do with wi-fi that could actually be called "reliable"
[17:33] <Cheez> if something is never reliable, is it reliably unreliable?
[17:34] <Cheez> dammit this is not -offtopic. ignore me. >_>
[17:35] <TanaPanda> Hello
[17:37] <keden> akk: I meant unfinished, still under development, therefore unreliable. But yeah, not the best choice of word. :)
[18:04] <TanaPanda> Hello
[18:05] <TanaPanda> I have a problem I could use assistance with
[18:06] <compdoc> tell us about your problem
[18:06] <JimBuntu> TanaPanda, the issue with forcing VLC to use a specific network interface?
[18:16] <ash_worksi> sort -k1 -k2 sorts first by key 1 then by key 2, right?
[18:16] <ash_worksi> why does `printf "%s\n" 10.0.0.{100,2,1} | sort -n -t. -k{1..4}` sort the final octets 1,100,2 ?
[18:24] <TanaPanda> yes
[18:25] <TanaPanda> I need VLC to output via the ethernet port but still allow me to connect to wifi
[18:25] <TanaPanda> sorry I keep getting pulled away
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: You were encouraged to ask your question in the #vlc forum
[18:25] <TanaPanda> I did
[18:26] <TanaPanda> and they said its a OS thing not VLC
[18:30] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: kind of important information there. What it sounds like then, VLC is using which ever network connection is being considered the primary connection. So when you plug into the ethernet, Ubuntu will default all traffic to that connection. Without that application having the ability to identify which network device to use, there isn't really a way to override it
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: Might be something you could setup with a routing table, but I'm unfamiliar with those types of setups
[18:32] <TanaPanda> hmmm
[18:32] <TanaPanda> ok
[18:32] <TanaPanda> I have tried starting the stream with wifi off. and it works but as soon as I turn on wifi it stops
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: sounds like enabling the wifi, which triggers a network configuration change, causes VLC to think the network connection is down
[18:35] <TanaPanda> any thoughts on how to go about fixing this?
[18:35] <TanaPanda> routing table?
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: playing with the routing tables is frought with issues. Because it isn't application specific, so while you could write a rule stating all traffic destined to IP x.x.x.x uses eth0... it means any application attempting to reach x.x.x.x is all sent to eth0, not just VLC.
[18:37] <JimBuntu> start with wifi, then plug in ethernet cable?
[18:37] <TanaPanda> well nothing will be running on the Pi but vlc so I dont think I would have any conflicts
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:38] <TanaPanda> Raspbian
[18:38] <TanaPanda> the latest version I assume
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> TanaPanda: That's not Ubuntu... Help in this channel is for Ubuntu only. Raspbian is based on Debian, however it is its own distribution. You need to seek help in a Raspbian dedicated forum.
[18:39] <TanaPanda> ok thanks
[18:44] <johnjay> what is the /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications dir for?
[18:44] <johnjay> i found the .desktop file for my emacs there. but it's just that and a calc and few gnome apps
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> johnjay: Then you've discovered why it's there... Ubuntu devs have been testing/proof of concept snaps by moving a set of commonly used applications into snap containers.
[18:47] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[18:47] <mahdi_ja> i have a 2 tb hdd and i formated it with 2tb partition ntfs with ubuntu
[18:47] <johnjay> commonly used kind of makes sense.
[18:47] <mahdi_ja> it work with ubuntu but windows can not detect it and detect a raw hard driver
[18:48] <johnjay> i was trying to figure out why there was a separate directory when ~/.local/share/applications exists for this apparently
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> johnjay: Some of that may have to do with application security permissions. Snaps by default cannot exit their containers
[18:49] <johnjay> ok. maybe i need to learn more about how the snaps work. i was very confused why right-clicking on the icons doesn't allow you to set launch parameters
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> mahdi_ja: Ubuntu cannot run on an NTFS formatted drive. When Ubuntu installs to it's partition, it would have formatted it to a compatible file system, usually EXT4
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> mahdi_ja: Windows does not have the built in capability to read EXT4 formatted volumns
[18:50] <mahdi_ja> pragmaticenigma, it is output of fdisk -l
[18:50] <mahdi_ja> pragmaticenigma, Disk /dev/sdc: 1.8 TiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>992 bytes,<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors
[18:51] <mahdi_ja> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[18:51] <mahdi_ja> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:51] <mahdi_ja> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[18:51] <mahdi_ja> Disklabel type: dos
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !paste | mahdi_ja
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> johnjay: Yeah, it's a good idea to do some research. If snaps get in the way of some of your tasks, there is a way to install the application as a system application instead of snap
[18:57] <Guest90294> Got a question regarding efi. I've read in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI that I should mount ( or at least so I understood ) windows efi partition on /boot/efi however the installtion program does not give me any options to alter efi partition
[19:04] <tomreyn> Guest90294: the desktop installer (and i think the server installer, too?), when booted in uefi mode, always installs the grub boot loader to the first (u)efi system partition it finds across all disks (with the exception of the installation media, i would think).
[19:04] <tomreyn> bug 1396379 is related
[19:06] <Guest90294> tomreyn: Damn, I just set grub install to sdb .
[19:07] <Guest90294> tomreyn: if, let's say efi is on sdb2 I should point grub installation to sdb2?
[19:07] <tomreyn> Guest90294: i don't think you are supposed to actually mount any file systems there manually, but the guide you linked suggests that you should, during manual partitioning as part of the ubuntu installation, set the intended (U)efi system partition to the /boot/efi mount point
[19:07] <Guest90294> tomreyn: yup, and that's not an option.
[19:08] <tomreyn> m yunderstanding of above bug report is that it does not matter what you choose for a boot loader installation device
[19:08] <Guest90294> tomreyn: k, thanks for the input.
[19:08] <tomreyn> your choice will always be ignored in uefi mode and the installer will simply install copy grub / the grub shim to the first ESP it finds.
[19:09] <tomreyn> most firmwares will only use the first ESP they find, so this default behaviour also makes a good amount of sense.
[19:10] <tomreyn> (but it's problematic that explicity set configurations are ignored)
[19:20] <Guest90294> I am about to find out which one is it ; )
[20:08] <donofrio> so what does this mean? "W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (6949 vs 6952).   Affected packages: python-minimal:amd64" this was from the 18.04 TLS brand new install
[20:11] <lordcirth_> donofrio, apt asked dpkg to change 6952 packages, and dpkg returned info about 6949 of them
[20:13] <ioria> a bug i think but just 'cosmetic'
[20:14] <donofrio> k tnx
[20:19] <apb1963> Where does simple-scan save scanned files?
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: where you choose it
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> apb1963: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[20:21] <apb1963> lotuspsychje, I don't think it gave me a choice, and even if one changes and makes a new save it doesn't let you choose a new place.
[20:21] <apb1963> 16.04
[20:21] <ioria> apb1963, have you checked in Pictures ?
[20:23] <apb1963> ioria, yes, but I didn't see it from the "attach file" menu in gmail... however I just doublechecked through a terminal/shell, and they are in fact there.   Thank you!
[20:24] <ioria> apb1963, ok
[20:26] <apb1963> ioria, Sorry, I have to reneg... it wasn't the file I thought it was.
[20:26] <apb1963> ioria, what I thought was a scanned file was actually a screenshot; unrelated to the problem at hand.
[20:31] <ioria> apb1963,  It defaults to ~/Pictures afaik unless has been changed (check Documents)
[20:36] <Siamaster> I have a harddisk formatted with NTFS which got corrupted today when computer crashed while writing to it
[20:36] <Siamaster> now I'm trying to recover it using testdisk
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> Siamaster: photorec the whole drive, and recover data to another drive
[20:36] <Siamaster> and I'm not understanding testdisk
[20:37] <Siamaster> photorec is removing structure
[20:37] <EriC^^> Siamaster: what's the table look like? "sudo parted -ls"
[20:37] <Siamaster>  2      135MB   4001GB  4001GB  ntfs         Basic data partition          msftdata
[20:37] <EriC^^> Siamaster: are you able to mount it?
[20:37] <Siamaster> no
[20:38] <EriC^^> Siamaster: what's the error it gives?
[20:38] <Siamaster> bad sector
[20:38] <Noboru55> hello everybody
[20:38] <Siamaster> thing is. I've ran testdisk and it finds the error
[20:38] <leftyfb> Siamaster: stop whatever you are doing. Pull an image of the entire drive using ddrescue. Try to recover files from the image, not your drive. The more you access that drive, the more potential you have for making it worse.
[20:38] <ioria> apb1963,  try this :   grep -i save  /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.SimpleScan.gschema.xml
[20:38] <Noboru55> my google chrome is closing by itself.  only adblock plus extension is in use
[20:38] <Siamaster> I have already created an dd-image of the drive
[20:38] <Noboru55> someone got the same problem?
[20:38] <EriC^^> Siamaster: leftyfb has a point, it'd be wise to image the partition before touching it
[20:38] <Siamaster> of the partition *
[20:39] <Siamaster> I have!
[20:39] <EriC^^> Siamaster: ok, so you said you tried to use backup sector using testdisk?
[20:39] <Siamaster> but I see I should also be able to just fix the boot sector
[20:39] <Siamaster> but I'm not understanding testimage
[20:40] <EriC^^> Siamaster: what are you not understanding in the process?
[20:40] <leftyfb> Siamaster: do not attempt to play with boot sectors. The drive/filesystem is damaged. Making it boot to recover files will make it worse. Recover your files and destroy the drive
[20:40] <apb1963> ioria, I found it.  It's called "Scanned Document".
[20:40] <Noboru55> partition huh..  well, i would like to know why the partition software of ubuntu installation always left behind 1mb space of partition when i create the partitions to install the o.s
[20:40] <Siamaster> leftyfb there is no structure when I use photorec
[20:41] <ioria> apb1963,  in Pictures ?
[20:41] <EriC^^> Noboru55: alignment reasons
[20:41] <apb1963> ioria, (.pdf)
[20:41] <apb1963> ioria, No
[20:41] <Siamaster> and I need the structures
[20:41] <ioria> apb1963, where in Documents ?
[20:41] <apb1963> ioria, In the directory I was in when I was using xsane before simple-scan
[20:41] <ioria> apb1963, i see
[20:41] <apb1963> ioria, a subdirectory of Documents
[20:42] <ioria> ok
[20:42] <EriC^^> leftyfb: i think it's not the boot loader location, it's the backup boot sector of the fs, used to access the fs
[20:42] <apb1963> ioria So, if it's called "Scanned Doc" I don't think I had a chance to name it.
[20:42] <EriC^^> Siamaster: there is a button somewhere in testdisk that lets you see if there's a valid backup BS and lets you use it
[20:42] <ioria> apb1963, idk sorry
[20:42] <Siamaster> that's what I'm trying to do
[20:42] <apb1963> ioria, np  thanks for your help!!
[20:42] <ioria> np
[20:43] <Siamaster> and I'm a bit scared since I don't understand really what it's saying
[20:43] <EriC^^> Siamaster: go to advanced >
[20:43] <Siamaster> so I'm going to send some pictures
[20:43] <Noboru55> EriC^^ is there someway to fix this alignment reasons ?
[20:43] <EriC^^> Siamaster: ok, step by step, type "sudo testdisk"
[20:43] <Siamaster> ok
[20:43] <EriC^^> Noboru55: why do you want the fs to start before the 1mb mark?
[20:44] <EriC^^> Noboru55: 1mb is left cause that's where the partition table and whatnot is located, then empty space, then at 1mb the fs starts so it's aligned and is faster
[20:44] <EriC^^> if you start it at 0.5mb or something it wont be aligned and optimal
[20:44] <Noboru55> EriC^^ did not know that. so i will not fix nothing.... thank you very much...
[20:45] <EriC^^> Noboru55: no problem
[20:45] <Siamaster> testdisk -> Create Log file -> select corrupted drive -> select >[EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...)
[20:45] <Noboru55> EriC^^ now just want to discover why my g chrome closes by itself :(
[20:45] <Siamaster> and Analyze
[20:45] <EriC^^> Siamaster: ok, press on Advanced
[20:45] <EriC^^> Siamaster: no, go back using "q" then advanced
[20:45] <Siamaster> ok
[20:46] <EriC^^> Siamaster: highlight the partition, and press on "boot" at the bottom
[20:46] <Siamaster> done
[20:46] <EriC^^> Siamaster: what does it say about the backup boot sector status
[20:46] <Siamaster> that it's ok
[20:46] <EriC^^> Noboru55: i would start by opening chrome using the terminal
[20:46] <Siamaster> but it's not
[20:47] <EriC^^> Siamaster: you're not using the backup yet though afaik
[20:47] <EriC^^> Siamaster: press on rebuild BS
[20:47] <Noboru55> EriC^^ let me ask you, if i do not create the biosreserved partition i can install the o.s. but if i install it will maybe do something with the grub,  can u explain what is that biosReserved partition ?
[20:47] <Noboru55> EriC^^ i will do, i meant, open the chrome in terminal, not now couz i'm talking here
[20:48] <Siamaster> OK now there is Dump / List
[20:48] <EriC^^> Noboru55: i think you mean the 1mb bios-boot partition? that's used for grub to work with GPT + legacy
[20:49] <Noboru55> EriC^^ really? but i use mbr.. lol.. so i creat for nothing
[20:49] <Siamaster> can it be that I've accidentally fixed it and just need to restart now?
[20:49] <Siamaster> Extrapolated boot sector and current boot sector are identical.
[20:49] <EriC^^> Noboru55: yeah it's not needed then :)
[20:50] <EriC^^> Siamaster: ok, try to remount it
[20:50] <Noboru55> EriC^^ Thank you for the great answers
[20:50] <EriC^^> Noboru55: you're welcome
[20:50] <Siamaster> I will restart first
[20:50] <Siamaster> brb
[20:50] <Noboru55> EriC^^ see u in supertuxkart online, same name of here
[20:50] <EriC^^> as you wish
[20:51] <EriC^^> nope, not me
[20:51] <Noboru55> should try... see u
[20:52] <EriC^^> it's online multiplayer or just leaderboards?
[20:52] <Noboru55> u can play offline.. and online with others
[20:52] <Noboru55> EriC^^ must install version 1.0
[20:52] <EriC^^> ah i see
[20:52] <Noboru55> u can get it in Software Gnome
[20:53] <Siamaster> I'm still not able to mount it
[20:53] <Siamaster> but I notice I can see all of my files inside of testdisk with strucute
[20:53] <Siamaster> structure*
[20:54] <EriC^^> Siamaster: what does it say when you try to mount it?
[20:55] <Siamaster> mount: /media/sdb1: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or mount point busy.
[20:55] <Siamaster> it's busy now because I'm using testdisk
[20:56] <Siamaster> wait
[20:56] <Siamaster> mount: /media/wo: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[20:56] <Noboru55> omg, partition problem it gives me headache
[20:57] <Siamaster> Use Right to change directory, h to hide Alternate Data Stream    q to quit, : to select the current file, a to select all files    C to copy the selected files, c to copy the current file
[20:57] <Siamaster> "current file"?
[20:57] <Siamaster> that's what I mean by not understanding testdisk
[20:57] <Siamaster> MFT and MFT mirror are bad. Failed to repair them.
[20:58] <Siamaster> when I press "Repair MFT"
[20:58] <Siamaster> if I can copy all of the files of this disk to another that I have with structure, it would be great
[20:58] <Siamaster> is that possible?
[20:58] <Siamaster> I can navigate through them with testdisk
[21:00] <Siamaster> hmm, it seems I can do that
[21:41] <kentre> hi all
[22:19] <apb1963> walgreens.com does not come up for me with firefox, but does with chrome.  Do we think this might be a site problem or a firefox problem?
[22:21] <ozzzo> apb1963: Probably your firefox
[22:22] <sarnold> what error message do you get?
[22:22] <elias_a> apb1963: The site works ok checked from Finland.
[22:23] <elias_a> apb1963: Using Firefox...
[22:25] <pnwise> How to change hostname in 18.04 ?
[22:25] <pnwise> Changes with hostnamectl does not survive reboot
[22:26] <cluelessperson> Ubuntu crashes a lot when playing minecraft and playing music.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> pnwise: How about this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux ?
[22:27] <cluelessperson> pnwise,   /etc/hostname
[22:27] <cluelessperson> and in /etc/hosts
[22:27] <pnwise> yeah I edited /et/hostname too
[22:28] <pnwise> the only thing I have not done is adding it to hosts
[22:28] <pnwise> trying that now
[22:28] <pnwise> it does not work
[22:28] <ozzzo> pnwise: did you try the hostname command?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> pnwise: Some instances also include /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg .
[22:29] <pnwise> It was literraly the first thing I wrote - "Changes with hostnamectl does not survive reboot"
[22:29] <pnwise> oh checking that now
[22:29] <ozzzo> there are 2 commands; hostnamectl and hostname
[22:29] <ozzzo> I always use hostname
[22:30] <jeremy31> pnwise: you have to change it in /etc/hosts also
[22:31] <pnwise> I did that too
[22:31] <pnwise> did the hostnamect, /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts
[22:31] <pnwise> reboot
[22:31] <pnwise> the old hostname
[22:32] <pnwise> also how do you change it with just "hostname"
[22:32] <jeremy31> pnwise: mine worked after reboot after using hostnamectl and changing /etc/hosts.  In /etc/hosts you modify the line with the old name
[22:34] <pnwise> I don't have that, it is ubuntu server, it has localhost
[22:34] <pnwise> I guess will use what I have on the desktop
[22:34] <pnwise> <IP_ADDRESS> hostname
[22:34] <rfm> pnwise, ah, ubuntu-server!  it's probably cloud-init changing it back for you
[22:35] <rfm> pnwise, I found some sensible-looking instructions for checking cloud.cfg in https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[22:37] <pnwise> Thanks rfm that preserve_hostname should be it
[22:37] <pnwise> yep that worked
[22:37] <pnwise> thanks again!
[22:40] <rfm> :q
[22:40] <pnwise> rfm did you just try to exit vim in the wrong window :D
[22:42] <rfm> pmwise, actually "less" not vim..  at least I didn't type a password into the channel this time
[22:46] <pnwise> well at least you haven't run chown -R www-data:www-data .
[22:46] <pnwise> in the wrong terminal, in the root dir of your local while logged as root :D
[23:11] <callipygous> I am having difficulties unlocking the screen
[23:11] <callipygous> touch screen seems to not work when the screen is locked
[23:11] <callipygous> so how to unlock it without a bluetooth or usb keyboard
[23:12] <callipygous> this is with Unity
[23:13] <sarnold> ew
[23:13] <callipygous> actually, touch screen is working
[23:13] <callipygous> but the OSK isn't
[23:14] <callipygous> yeah, and Unity is the best desktop on Linux I've used for touch :/
[23:14] <callipygous> KDE and Gnome3...don't go ther
[23:16] <sarnold> it's hard for me to think of how to address it... control+alt+f1 to get a new console requires a keyboard of some sort. sysrq? keyboard. ssh in? well, you've got to have a keyboard somewhere :)
[23:17] <callipygous> oh I can get in...provided I have a keyboard with me
[23:17] <callipygous> which I do
[23:17] <callipygous> but it's not premium solution
[23:43] <tomreyn> callipygous: maybe it's time to upgrade (that's in case you're still on 16.04 LTS), gnomes' screen  keyboard does work while the screen is locked.
[23:44] <tomreyn> it may be a bit more resource hungry, too, though
[23:49] <rfm> I have two ubuntu 18.04 systems with hardwired ethernet connected to the same ethernet switch, both running apache2.   if I transfer a big file with wget or curl, if I use the IPv4 addresses, transfer goes at link speed (~100Mbps).  If I use IPv6 addresses, transfer crawls (60Kbps).
[23:50] <rfm> Seems only to be between Ubuntu systems.  If I try a download from one of the Ubuntu servers from a Windows system, transfer runs quickly.
[23:56] <rfm> scp shows same effect, so it's not something in apache/wget


[09:52] <davef> You guys are now safe, at the gate waiting to board.
[09:59] <zxmpi_> safe flight o/
[22:39] <davef> Landed & got home safe
[23:29] <zxmpi_> huzzah \o/


[09:36] <rmg51> Morning
[09:57] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:13] <JonathanD> hi
[12:17] <teddy-dbear> o/
[13:49] <MutantTurkey> i wish the calvin nick wasn't registered :[
[13:50] <jedijf> calvinn?
[13:51] <MutantTurkey> heh nah
[13:51] <CalvinMorrison> i don't want that though
[13:51] <calvin> I can go as calvin since the actual calvin is like never on
[13:51] <calvin> but i can't go in #python or #archlinux or ##archlinux-offtopic or many others
[13:52] <calvin> if i'm not registered
[13:52] <jedijf> calvinM
[13:52] <calvin> nope
[13:52] <calvin> jedijf: are you a domain-name suggester?
[13:52] <calvin> calvin.com is not available... why not calvin123.com?
[13:53] <jedijf> i had a phase of buying them as i thought of 'great' ones
[13:53] <jedijf> it's like qvc for geeks
[13:53] <calvin> what ones did you have?
[13:53] <jedijf> renewal time that don't seem as great
[13:53] <jedijf> waitressgonewild.com
[13:54] <jedijf> hackadelphia.com
[13:54] <calvin> waitressgonewild.com LOL
[13:54] <calvin> honestly it's so cheap tohugh
[13:54] <calvin> 10 bucks a year
[13:55] <jedijf> yeah that's the problem
[13:55] <jedijf> now i might try to get waitress back
[14:13] <calvin> you in the business of erotic waitress materials?
[14:20]  * ChinnoDog buys membership
[14:29] <jedijf> my mind works in odd ways
[14:30] <jedijf> it was a new diner and i always go to support and check out and there was a waitress that inspired that purchase
[14:30] <jedijf> made the purchase before i left the diner parking lot
[14:32] <jedijf> unfortunately i only used it to f with owners and make the waitresses giggle at the site name
[14:32] <jedijf> http://www.jedijf.com/wgw/
[14:35] <calvin> lol
[14:35] <calvin> sfw?
[14:50] <ChinnoDog> It is pretty safe.
[16:22] <jedijf> waltman: any 'shootback's?
[16:27] <waltman> ?
[16:37] <jedijf> active shhoter training
[16:37] <jedijf> shooter
[21:23] <ChinnoDog> gobble
[22:39] <waltman> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/workplace-shooting-survival-video-run-hide-fight-houston_n_1734334.html # that's the video in case anyone wants to watch it
[22:39] <waltman> It straddles the line between horrifying and ridiculously campy
[22:40] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all and to all some good bacon
[22:41] <JonathanD> hi
[22:41] <SamuraiAlba> how is it going?
[22:49] <waltman> It is going sans bacon, unfortunately.
[22:54] <SamuraiAlba> :(
[23:05] <teddy-dbear> kernel update
[23:05] <teddy-dbear> see ya


  Happy Monday, and happy Lost Sock Memorial Day! 😃
[09:18] <SuperMatt> I currently live in a state where all socks are present, correct, and paired. This has been the case for the last year or so.
[09:19] <SuperMatt> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14415881/pair-socks-from-a-pile-efficiently
[09:29] <Wobbo> Still morning, so morning all, :D At 16.04 Evoltion hase no translation. So I think that only need [/usr/share/locale-langpack/nl/LC_MESSAGES/evolution-3.18.mo]. But where and how can i find this?
[09:29] <brobostigon> http://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/bepicolombo-mercurytransit
[09:47] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO3Z85qE_og but also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-UzXIQ5vw combined with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3y9llDXuM will give losing my tube socks I thank you :D
[10:29] <MooDoo> well two peeople have password my password check social experiment :)
[10:30] <MooDoo> passed *
[10:31] <MooDoo> https://www.paulmellors.net/passwords.html
[10:31] <MooDoo> :)
[10:32] <diplo> Don't click the link!!!!!
[10:32] <diplo> :P
[10:32] <MooDoo> diplo: I was doing a social experiment to see actually how many people would type in their password blatently to a site, it's a safe sight
[10:32] <MooDoo> site
[10:34] <diplo> Where did you put the link ?
[10:34] <diplo> Password validation failure (your choise is weak):
[10:34] <diplo> Should there be something at the end of : ?
[10:35] <diplo> rawr Your password is strong.
[10:36] <MooDoo> diplo: no nothing is there and if you put in your password i'll not be happy ;)
[10:36] <diplo> I put my extra l33t password in
[10:36] <MooDoo> diplo: ;)
[10:37] <MooDoo> diplo: I've already had what appears to be legit passwords in, some people are crazy
[10:37] <diplo> Some people are stupid!
[10:38] <MooDoo> definately....when someone told me that people will put their password into any legit looking site, i couldn't believe them, now i do :)
[10:44] <diplo> yeah, stupid bloody people, and yours doesn't even look legitimate :D
[10:48] <SuperMatt> problem is you have to put your password in so many things, that many seasoned pros could be caught out
[10:49] <SuperMatt> I use keepass on my linux machines. There is nothing to stop canonical or redhat from altering the binary so send my passwords to them in plain text, but keep the source code free of this kind of change
[10:49] <SuperMatt> I have to put my trust somewhere, and hope it never bites me in the backside
[10:52] <diplo> SuperMatt: I do/use the same apart from that it syncs to all my devices ( windows/droid/*nix(
[10:57] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: I use lastpass, it works for me, it was a social experiment just to see if people would put their passwords into my page
[10:58] <SuperMatt> lastpass is a browser extension, no?
[10:58] <SuperMatt> I wouldn't want to trust that because I don't know what will be done with the passwords when they're save t'cloud
[11:02] <MooDoo> it seems to work for me, and my vault pass phrase os over 30 chars log :)
[11:02] <MooDoo> long
[11:29] <Bram___> hello first I'm sorry for my bad english
[11:30] <MooDoo> don't worry about it, welcome.  If you have a question just ask and if anyone can answer it, they will :)
[11:32] <Bram___> so I made a python code and a c code. I want to link both codes with a binary file but I have a problem. somtimes I miss data
[11:32] <Bram___> so this is my python code
[11:32] <Bram___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16316979/
[11:33] <Bram___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16316983/
[11:33] <Bram___> and this is my c code
[11:33] <Bram___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16316993/
[11:34] <Bram___> so when I run both codes I have serial data as 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,.... so 5 and 6 are missing in the data stream
[11:36] <Bram___> I think that the reopening of the file (in the c cod) for clearing the content of the file the problem is
[11:37] <Bram___> have you any solution for resolving this problem?
[11:39] <SuperMatt> I don't think that falls under the umberella of an Ubuntu specific problem
[11:39] <SuperMatt> so finding help here might be difficult
[11:40] <SuperMatt> you could try stackexchange
[11:43] <Bram___> yes thats true I work on a Raspberry Pi
[13:47] <foobarry> eyes so itchy
[13:47]  * Seeker` pokes foobarry in the eye to take his mind off the itching
[13:47] <foobarry> itchy and scratchy
[13:51] <Myrtti> allergies?
[13:51] <foobarry> hayfever and colleagues leaving windows open
[13:52] <Myrtti> I started the first symptoms of the year on the weekend, I'm not happy :-|
[13:54] <Seeker`> mine haven't started yet
[13:54] <Seeker`> I guess they'll start soon
[13:58] <davmor2> foobarry: take hayfever tablets and get some local honey and put a teaspoon of that into you coffee instead of sugar
[14:00] <foobarry> loradatine, and nose torch
[14:00] <foobarry> will be getting beconase, opticrum etc
[14:01] <Seeker`> I need to get some more beconase, the one I've got lying around is over a year old
[14:01] <foobarry> yeah, same here
[14:46] <knightwise> eeeevenin
[14:49] <popey> pip pip
[14:54] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise
[15:14] <davmor2> tally ho
[18:33] <Azelphur> Anyone know of a bluetooth receiver that takes 3.5mm audio in/out? Bonus points if it's mains powered
[18:34] <popey> a bluetooth speaker?
[18:35] <Azelphur> popey: no, I want to be able to, plug a PC headset into it, so it needs 3.5mm jacks
[18:36] <popey> i dont know what you're asking for then
[18:36] <Azelphur> to be able to use my headset (that has 3.5mm jacks for mic/audio) with my phone, but via bluetooth
[18:36] <Azelphur> so it'd be headset -> cables -> bluetooth -> phone
[18:37] <diddledan> I think most bluetooth headset thingies have the headset and bluetooth embedded into the same unit
[18:37] <popey> never heard of such a thing
[18:38] <Azelphur> something like this: http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-sbh52-bluetooth-headset.html
[18:48] <popey> neat
[18:49] <Azelphur> popey: seems like most of them have microphones built into the receiver though, rather than a 3.5mm jack for the mic.
[18:49] <popey> yeah, designed for phones
[18:49] <popey> you could possibly bodge the connector into a 4pin jack
[18:49] <Azelphur> Indeed,p robably could
[18:49] <popey> actually there must be converters
[18:50] <diddledan> how to make a UNIX/Linux geek cringe: claim that BASH was named after Jason Bourne the guy who Matt Damon plays in the movies
[20:58] <foobarry> Azelphur: i have a bluetooth receiver that i use as a poor mans sonos
[20:58] <foobarry> i plug it into my stereo.
[20:59] <foobarry> its from 7dayshop type people i think
[20:59] <foobarry> that would work with a headset, but no auio in
[21:02] <Azelphur> foobarry: yea, I need mic
[21:03] <foobarry> lydia in skyrim is epic.
[21:03] <foobarry> she saves me in so many battles


[00:15] <tjaalton> damnit, I've been banging my head against the wall with hal
[00:15] <tjaalton> it's just strange
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #39822 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Trackpad didn't work with new user first time of use." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39822
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #174840 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Switching users disables synaptic touchpad scroll" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174840
[14:08] <ubotu> New bug: #174810 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "ati driver, right side of LCD screen artifacts, hangs off" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174810
[15:40] <ubotu> New bug: #174899 in xorg-server (main) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174899
[17:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122348 in ubuntu "New nVidia drivers 100.14 fix problems with ACPI / Suspend (dup-of: 120943)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122348
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #160289 in fast-user-switch-applet (main) "User Switcher gives white screen (dup-of: 160264)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160289
[21:07] <tjaalton> oh yeah, singing karaoke (Singstar game for PS2/3) at Lasipalatsi ("Glasspalace", in downtown Helsinki) for seven hours now... an attempt to break the world record :P
[21:08] <tjaalton> glad that we only have 24h to deal with our group, the whole ordeal will take ten days
[23:17] <bryce> whoa
[23:17] <bryce> tjaalton: good luck!


[01:39] <A|an> How can I fix this: when I click Trash, VLC opens.
[01:59] <swift110> hey
[11:57] <acheronuk> I guess mate gets this as well. LP: #1788597
[22:43] <Boyette> hi
[22:44] <Boyette> i have a weird problem
[22:46] <Belial> ...what's your weird problem?
[23:02] <Boyette> i have a VPS
[23:02] <Boyette> and like to configure a VPN
[23:02] <Boyette> but there is no networkconfiguration available to connect the VPN configuration to
[23:02] <Boyette> however the internetconnection works fine
[23:06] <Boyette> maybe because its actually a virtual ethernet controller but that should not create an issue should it?


[10:41] <sil2100> mvo: heeey! Once again, could I ask you to do the usual DDTP update dance for 22.10? :)
[10:41] <sil2100> And/or linking to some documentation so we could do that without bothering you, if that's doable with our permissions?
[14:06] <mvo> sil2100: sure thing, updated and send you details
[14:07] <sil2100> mvo: thank you! <3


[00:09] <ubptgbot> DavidUnboxed was added by: DavidUnboxed
[00:17] <ubptgbot> <Joe Arbes> How do. return to the home screen after opening an app?
 From the right edge of the screen
 Slide left
 @Joe Arbes [How do. return to the home screen after opening an app?], ^^^^^
[00:29] <ubptgbot> <Joe Arbes> Thank you!
 @Joe Arbes [Thank you!], Btw just a heads up, you can slide from the left if you want to open the app drawer :)
[02:14] <ubptgbot> <Alejandro Olivencia> Hello !! Is there any chance to install Firefox or Chromium in UT ? Thanks for read this
 Why is ubports running on my Oneplus One so slow?
 @Alejandro Olivencia [Hello !! Is there any chance to install Firefox or Chromium in UT ? Thanks for r …], There is no native mobile build of either available. Though, Morph uses QtWebEngine which is based on Chromium. You can maybe run Firefox in libertine, but some people have had issues on different devices, and it is not a mobile frien
[02:30] <ubptgbot> dly UI either way.
[02:50] <ubptgbot> <Alejandro Olivencia> Thank you Rodney !! Greetings from Argentina using UT in Lg Nexus 5
[03:51] <ubptgbot> <barbellburak Ntawukuriryayo> (Photo, 512x755) https://irc.ubports.com/ZG9Zo3og.png
[04:22] <ubptgbot> sylvia Dykes was added by: sylvia Dykes
[05:07] <ubptgbot> JoshAF was added by: JoshAF
 Related question. Was at a hospital yesterday and couldn't get on the public wifi. They use The Cloud which is a common provider in the UK.  … Typed google.com into Morph and got redirected to their Captive Portal. Clicked the 'get online' button and it just hung and then eventually gave an error message. … Anyone got any tips & tricks o
[05:57] <ubptgbot> n getting on to such public wifi from UT?
 that's the way I do it. Other than that, not sure how … probably an issue with their site rendered in morph
 Yeah or they didn't recognise the device. Need a little captive portal webview app that identities itself as Chrome on Android, would probably be fine then … Or maybe a Masquerade mode in Morph that does the same? … It's silly but I'm sure a lot of sites and portals like that are hard coded to handle Android / iOS devices in a certain wa
[06:33] <ubptgbot> y and can't cope with a UT device even if Morph can render things 100% fine
 Morning all!  … Have you got any battery preservation tips for Nexus 5?
 @theare27 [Yeah or they didn't recognise the device. Need a little captive portal webview a …], What if you asked for the desktop site in settings and then accessed google?
[07:11] <ubptgbot> bender097 was added by: bender097
 @anvil30november [What if you asked for the desktop site in settings and then accessed google?], Worth a try I guess, but I know some of these portals treat laptips differently. They'll let you on the network for free from a mobile device, but charge for a laptop.  I have got a little problem with my BQ Aquaris FHD10 tablet, I forgot the password and I cannot get it... is there anyway to get inside perhaps... reinstalling it with fastboot or something?
 [Edit] Hello there you all, nice to be here... I have got a little problem with my BQ Aquaris FHD10 tablet, I forgot the password and I cannot get it... is there anyway to get inside perhaps... reinstalling it with fastboot or something? Many thanks in advance
 Your tablet is running UT ?
 yup, the Ubports version 16.04... but from a few months ago... maybe a year ago, more or less
[09:50] <ubptgbot> HVGarg was added by: HVGarg
 Is Mi A2 supported device for using Ubuntu Touch is ?
 short answer: no … long answer: go to xda and check if there's a community port … longer answer: go to xda and check if there's a community port make a community port yourself
 no iirc tbh
 Ok
 [Edit] short answer: no … long answer: go to xda and check if there's a community port … longer answer: go to xda and check if there's a community port make a community port yourself if not
[09:58] <ubptgbot> RostislavSvoboda was added by: RostislavSvoboda
[11:08] <ubptgbot> Almeida M. was added by: Almeida M.
 @JustDevZero [yup, the Ubports version 16.04... but from a few months ago... maybe a year ago, …], You can run UBports installer with option Wipe set to No and you will get your tablet updated to the last OTA and password reset.
 @libremax [You can run UBports installer with option Wipe set to No and you will get your t …], Cool, I'll try it later.
 @libremax [You can run UBports installer with option Wipe set to No and you will get your t …], That's unsecure? Why do you have that feature?
 I'd like to install myself Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung SM-G398FN. It seems not be supported. So I guess I need to compile it myself from the source, right?
 @RostislavSvoboda [I'd like to install myself Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung SM-G398FN. It seems not be …], Check XDA firat
 First
 @TigranKhachatryan [Check XDA firat], Ok. Thanx, I'm checking the https://www.xda-developers.com/tag/samsung/ it seems to be some forum for Phones, but... ???
 There's nothing about "Linux"
 Neiter about "Ubuntu"
 I'd Google it
 And the forum or whatever it id
 s
 @TigranKhachatryan [I'd Google it], yea that's what I'm just doing
 @TigranKhachatryan [That's unsecure? Why do you have that feature?], Yes, unlocking boot is unsecure and that's worse with UT because filesystems are not encrypted.
 hm okay then
[13:48] <ubptgbot> mrcyjanek was added by: mrcyjanek
 Hey!
 I'm having some problems with libertine... They just don't work, when I click 'Get started' and then 'ok' I can see something showing in a list for a half of second and then it disappear
 Are you using the PinePhone?
 @UniversalSuperBox [Are you using the PinePhone?], No... I'm using oneplus6t with GSI
 try to create container from SSH
 I do not know if Libertine works on the GSI. Probably not.
 it should
 @NotKit [try to create container from SSH], I'll try now
 `No module named 'libertine.LxdContainer'`
 you need to use chroot
 Any update for redmi note 7 (lavender) port?
 Something is loading
 @NotKit [you need to use chroot], thanks!
 @erfanoabdi I think you have lavender image?
 https://build.lolinet.com/file/halium/lavender/
 Not sure if it work, but i saw it here
 @mrcyjanek [Not sure if it work, but i saw it here], How i will flash it, and how i will get back to android custom rom?
 @mrcyjanek [thanks!], `rm: cannot remove '/dev/sda16': Permission denied` … Why is it trying to remove this file?
 @mrcyjanek [thanks!], [Edit] `rm: cannot remove '/dev/sda16': Permission denied … `Why is it trying to remove this file? … (debootstrap.log_
 @mrcyjanek [thanks!], [Edit] `rm: cannot remove '/dev/sda16': Permission denied … `Why is it trying to remove this file? … (debootstrap.log)
[14:08] <ubptgbot> Anony Izu was added by: Anony Izu
[14:11] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Hello guys! I have a question, is it possible to do some app development in ubuntu touch?. I think that maybe desktop gui support is probably not ready yet. But is it possible to do some terminal based programming? Can we compile an application? Apk for example. Using this OS?
 yes, though building android apps might be a bit extraneous (and i don't know if Android SDK supports using an ARM device as a host system)
[14:14] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Thats what im thinking too.
[14:14] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> So its about the arm device after all
 and phones aren't really designed for some tasks
[14:15] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> I will.be happy to know if someone made one using this
[14:15] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Yep. But maybe just a good time for exercises
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> And for someone who don't own laptop like me it would be much helpful
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Hope someone that work with give me a feedback on my question. And i hope that it works
 What is default sudo password on PinePhone ?
 it's whatever your screen unlock pin/password is
 if swipe only it's empty string
 Thanks !
[14:22] <ubptgbot> Nuri | IOWNTOKEN | Wolfs.Group was added by: Nuri | IOWNTOKEN | Wolfs.Group
 @mrcyjanek [rm: cannot remove '/dev/sda16': Permission denied … Why is it trying to remove thi …], https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H9g6WyvGmJ/ Still having problems :/
 @mrcyjanek [https://build.lolinet.com/file/halium/lavender/], Yeah this is what I'm using on my device and can confirm working
 Well, libertine is not working at all, can I use apt to install desktop apps?
 only in libertine
 :/
 @mrcyjanek [https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H9g6WyvGmJ/ Still having problems :/], there is probably still stuff that needs resolved on halium 9 ports before libertine can work
 Is there a list of changes/fixes/commits somewhere that show what's in the dev builds? I can see commits for individual community ports, but I'm not sure how to tell what's actually built into what.
 What the heck is wrong with Podbird? Everything sounds like chipmunks being fast forwarded.
 (Video, 6s) https://irc.ubports.com/gacUiHU2.mp4
 @samzn [<reply to media>], who remembers
 @nefariousNIFFIN [<reply to media>], Wow, that sounds weird
 Yep. Only happening in that one app as far as I can tell. I can listen to Audible and Invidious just fine.
 I would like to make a port, I really like this OS
 @nefariousNIFFIN [<reply to media>], that happens most of the tome but sometimes it works 😅
 @stuarttempleton [Is there a list of changes/fixes/commits somewhere that show what's in the dev b …], there's hundreds of git repos, plus whatever updates get pulled in from ubuntu, so no, it's not a simple thing to create a list from each day
 @Javacookies [that happens most of the tome but sometimes it works 😅], So just open and close until it works?
 Podbird playback speed bug (comments have a temp fix) …  https://bugs.launchpad.net/podbird/+bug/1881777
 does it happen with music app too sometimes?
 I've only seen it with podbird
 podbird actually specifies a 3x playback speed by default
 oh
 How do I change the playback speed to something reasonable?
 should be an option in the app i would guess
 not as far as I can tell
 you have to use the suggestion in the comments of the issue I posted
 it worked for me
 I don't think they've added a feature to control it from the UI.
 I’m afraid your solution goes above my head.
 @nefariousNIFFIN [So just open and close until it works?], haven't really identified the pattern but sometimes I just switch between podcasts then it'll work then sometimes it won't again 😄
 Is anyone maintaining podbird? Changing one number sounds not hard to do.
 I only listened to the ubports podcast and never had that issue.
 afaik mike will build and release it to the openstore, but hasn't had time to do actual development. but if people make merge requests, he will review and release podbird
 But it is still at launchpad, right?
 yes
[16:30] <ubptgbot> bronl was added by: bronl
 Does the Ubuntu touch work on the 5x as well...  I’m looking for the best phone to get
 it does not
 Any recommendations?
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 The 5 is good? Been doing the search
 I’ve been check this out yes - thought I would ask here
 nexus 5 is decent if you can find one that isn't emaciated at this point, yeah
 @dohbee [nexus 5 is decent if you can find one that isn't emaciated at this point, yeah], There are two new phones available on Amazon UK
 @stuarttempleton That shouldn't be the case, looks like something slipped through in a recent PR someone submitted
 @stuarttempleton I'll release a fix now
 @MikeSheldon [@stuarttempleton That shouldn't be the case, looks like something slipped throug …], It happens. :)
 I've had problems with libertine, and i needed it only for few cli apps, is this ok to be ran on my phone: https://gist.github.com/MrCyjaneK/9be6ee4b59ab6a18931b232cb360a1e0#file-ubuntu-touch-chroot-ubuntu
 i don't know what that script is
 It just create an chroot
 it may or may not work, but it's not any official thing; and i think it's not an unprivileged chroot
 I have to run it with sudo :/
 right
 what cli things do you want to use? perhaps you could just install them somewhere in your home dir instead?
 But i thing that it is still better than remounting / with read and write to use apt
 Php and nodejs scripts mostly
 Should be possible to I stall those in your home directory
 @dohbee [afaik mike will build and release it to the openstore, but hasn't had time to do …], It desperately needs work. It's fine to manage subscriptions and managing downloads, but as a playback app it's atrocious. I've written a bash script to take the files it's downloaded and auto populate them into a playlist in the Music app. Only
[17:34] <ubptgbot>  thing that works for me
 @theare27 [It desperately needs work. It's fine to manage subscriptions and managing downlo …], It is, of course, open source and seeking help
 Beyond my skill sadly, happy to help test though
 I dunno, seems like you could pick up the skill if you could create such a script.  Just saying...
 [Edit] Should be possible to install those in your home directory
 It's not so much the code hacking, I've failed multiple times to get clickable working. And some of the problems aren't with podbird itself, rather how it interacts with media-hub
 well no software is perfect
 And that's getting into OS level stuff
 No, and that's fair enough, but the issue is that Podbird is basically the only podcast manager for UT
 If there was a choice it'd be a different thing. I'm happy to polish up my sync to Music app script and make that available to others. The setup I've ended up with works OK for my needs
 do you use the tweak tool app at all?
 I've played with it, but not in relation to podbird
 What is the state of Ubuntu Touch native app dev on Ubuntu 20.04 and similar? I checked the ubports course, but I found it confusing enough to kind of deter me. It looked like a lot of conflicting libraries and stuff with qt builder. Or am I just completely misunderstanding?
 @theare27 [I've played with it, but not in relation to podbird], if you use tweak tool to disable app suspension in podbird, does it resolve your playback issues?
 I'm itching to contribute to some stuff
 @stuarttempleton [What is the state of Ubuntu Touch native app dev on Ubuntu 20.04 and similar? I …], With `clickable` you're just building and running things inside a docker container, instead of on 20.04 directly
 oooh
 @stuarttempleton [oooh], you might also want to join https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN
 @dohbee [With clickable you're just building and running things inside a docker container …], You been using clickable of late?
 @ArubIslander [You been using clickable of late?], no, i don't use it
 @dohbee [you might also want to join https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN], thanks!
 @dohbee [if you use tweak tool to disable app suspension in podbird, does it resolve your …], Might help some of it, the forgetting play position & wiping out play queue might be helped by that. But I doubt it'd help with the media-hub related sruff were the track after the one initially played isn't controllable from the dropdown contro
[17:54] <ubptgbot> ls and keeps playing on earphone disconnect. But I'm happy to try it
 Update ver 52, got the return arrow etc ,back on login screen
[19:58] <ubptgbot> Kelly Oboyle was added by: Kelly Oboyle
[20:55] <avbox111> Is there a working app for the camera?
 Not on the PinePhone.
 A different app will not help
 any one have experience with the UBports installer config file? I cant get it to execute any adb commands … P.S. sorry for the cross post but I know not everyone in here is in the porting channel
[22:39] <ubptgbot> Zack Lilly was added by: Zack Lilly
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Is xiaomi redmi note 7 port working now?
[23:36] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> I mean has an official release rn
 You're asking to different questions
[23:39] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> Hmm maybe can someone answer both of them then
[23:39] <ubptgbot> <Anony Izu> ,😁😍😍😍😁😁
 @Anony Izu [I mean has an official release rn], Lemme check (you could do easily too)
 According to https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io Redmi Note 7 is supported and can be found at https://github.com/ubports-lavender … It's WIP, also not recognized by UBports installer.
 (Photo, 353x101) https://irc.ubports.com/pa2zsJ9E.png