[05:12] <Jucato> MK_Mike: you can see the previous Beta and Herd 1-5 release announcements for the new features
[05:14] <marcos> ,..
[05:15] <zak_> how do i make packages like eclipse use the sun JRE instead of gij?
[05:16] <intelikey> man update-alternatives
[05:16] <zak_> i have sun-java6-jre [or whatever it's called]  and friends... but i can't work out how to re-install eclipse to use it
[05:17] <Jucato> zak_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:17] <zak_> ah thanks Jucato
[05:18] <hak5fan> Hello. For some time now I have expirienced a somewhat strange problem when I boot up kubuntu. I'm dropped to tty1 when the machine is booted allthough kdm is running I have to swich to that virtual desktop with ctrl + alt + f7 In order to get to the graphical login screen. Why is this happening?
[05:18] <kkerwin> Hi. For some reason, by /usr partition was automatically mounted read-only for even root, and it cannot be remounted rw. This has happened three days running. Anyone know how I can remount it rw without having to reboot (mount -w /usr and mount -a don't work), and also what is going on to cause the problem in the first place?
[05:21] <intelikey> kkerwin could be failing fsck ?    could be set ro in /etc/fstab ?    at any rate    sudo mount -o remount,rw /usr     should work.
[05:22] <kkerwin> intelikey: mount: block device /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i've seen three different daemons that appear to do the same thing - powernowd, cpufreqd, and cpudyn.  powernowd is installed by default, is there any reason to use any of the others?
[05:22] <anti_pop> my K-Menu doesnt add fresh installed stuff, why is that ?
[05:23] <intelikey> hak5fan is kdm set to give you a console login?   (i refuse to use the convoluted "kdm" it writes in /root)
[05:23] <kkerwin> intelikey: Problem with the drive?
[05:23] <intelikey> anti_pop don't know what you installed...   sudo update-menus
[05:24] <hak5fan> intelikey: I don't know what it's set to. How do I change it?
[05:24] <intelikey> kkerwin fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/421679a2-333b-4fb5-9d6c-0f2ea72d3c3a
[05:24] <woo> i need filemanager as far at win, it exist?
[05:24] <anti_pop> i installed package: kdegames.. sudo: update-menus: command not found
[05:24] <kkerwin> intelikey: Do I need to unmount first?
[05:24] <intelikey> hak5fan look in the kdm menu
[05:24] <intelikey> kkerwin no.  it's mounted ro.
[05:24] <hak5fan> intelikey:
[05:24] <hak5fan> ok
[05:24] <kkerwin> intelikey: K. Just playing it safe. Thanks.
[05:24] <Daisuke_Ido> woo: ...what?
[05:25] <intelikey> anti_pop mmmm ....   install menu  and run it    :)
[05:26] <Yorokobi> !ru | woo
[05:26] <ubotu> woo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:26] <intelikey> anti_pop but kde-games should show in your kmenu without "menu" installed
[05:26] <anti_pop> did it, no success
[05:26] <seb_> helo ya des fransais ici ?
[05:27] <anti_pop> intelikey: yup, but it doesnt here
[05:27] <kkerwin> !fr | seb_
[05:27] <ubotu> seb_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:27] <intelikey> anti_pop what release ?
[05:27] <anti_pop> intelikey: feisty, should i go in #ubuntu+1 ?
[05:27] <intelikey> yeah prolly.
[05:27] <anti_pop> /jon #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> /join #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> some clients accept   /j ubuntu+1
[05:28] <intelikey> some don't
[05:28] <anti_pop> was a typo
[05:29] <anti_pop> intelikey is it possible to reset the menu somehow ?
[05:30] <Yorokobi> anti_pop, you could try kappfinder, perhaps
[05:30] <anti_pop> already did
[05:30] <anti_pop> will add some stuff but nothing i need or miss
[05:30] <kkerwin> intelikey: Rebooting. Hopefully that did it.
[05:30] <anti_pop> ill restart x, maybe that will do it
[05:31] <danny500> yo
[05:31] <danny500> big problem
[05:31] <blekos> hi, there's supposed to be a pre-installed option for having 3d desktop etc, any idea?
[05:31] <carl__> is there some way I can view a kernel boot log other than the one I'm currently running?
[05:31] <danny500> some of my programs won't work at all
[05:31] <intelikey> anti_pop ummm reset as in remove customizations yes.   i think it's in ~/.kde/apps/config/kicker*   not sure.
[05:32] <danny500> Hi Jucato
[05:32] <cntb> lokder ?
[05:32] <cntb> !ping lokder
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping lokder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Jucato> yo danny500!
[05:33] <hak5fan> intelikey: I've looked all over the kdm menu and it doesn't say anything about wheter or not to give me a console login
[05:33] <intelikey> Filthpig look in /var/log/
[05:33] <danny500> been a while lol whats up man
[05:33] <Mena> Hi
[05:34] <Jucato> danny500: doing ok. about to hit the sack :)
[05:34] <intelikey> Jucato can you point hak5fan at the option for "terminal login" kdm    ?
[05:34] <Jucato> hak5fan: Console Login?
[05:34] <danny500> Jucato: I have a problem getting some programs working, I try opening them and nothing happens, I've installed them, uninstalled, and reinstalled them and I don't know what else to do
[05:34] <Mena> i have a file for an onine listenning ans when i put it on amrok it dont play...any idea
[05:34] <Mena> and*
[05:34] <intelikey> Jucato yes he's getting dumpped into console  but kdm is running.
[05:34] <Jucato> danny500: have  you tried starting them from Konsole to see if you get error messages?
[05:34] <Mena> its .ram file
[05:34] <danny500> hold on
[05:35] <danny500> brb
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> Mena: do you have a codec for realaudio installed?
[05:35] <hak5fan> Jucato: I want to set the default login meathod to gui login... As of now it drops me to a shell and then I use ctrl + alt + f7 to get to the gui
[05:35] <Jucato> is it real media?
[05:35] <Jucato> hak5fan: laptop or desktop?
[05:36] <hak5fan> desktop
[05:36] <Filthpig> hmm
[05:36] <danny500> is it real media?  you talking to me?
[05:36] <Jucato> hm.. strange... I seem to be getting that on a  new edgy install on a laptop... did you install Kubuntu normally?
[05:36] <Filthpig> I have a slight problem. All of a sudden neither Opera or Ark will run
[05:36] <danny500> nm
[05:36] <hak5fan> Jucato: yes I did
[05:37] <_dennis_> Jucato: yes, Opera doesn't run anymore afther the latest dist upgrade, it's a bug
[05:37] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, yes
[05:37] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, w32
[05:37] <Mena> codecs
[05:37] <danny500> ok I'm back
[05:38] <danny500> I tried opening it in terminal and got this
[05:38] <danny500> oops
[05:38] <hak5fan> Jucato: Here Is a guide I followed that might have screwed up things. It's about Installing g15 support in linux.. It's the visudo thing I'm thinking of. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267118
[05:38] <Filthpig> _dennis_: but I'm still running kernel 20-13-generic, as I have for a while now. Kernel 20-14 won't boot, gives something about ext3 mount error, kernel panic, attempting to kill init and stops
[05:38] <danny500> rtrying to create local folder /home/danny500/.kde/socket-Netkiller: Permission
[05:38] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, when i open it on kmplayer it working
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> then amarok can't handle the stream
[05:38] <danny500> Could not bind to socket '/home/danny500/.kde/socket-Netkiller/kdeinit__0'
[05:39] <danny500> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[05:39] <danny500> so whats wrong?
[05:39] <Jucato> er.. hm... :(
[05:40] <danny500> theres all ways something wrong with Linux, well at least it gives me something to do lol
[05:40] <_dennis_> Filthpig: hmm, sry i have no idea, i'm a newbie myself
[05:40] <brosioz> excuse me when will be release faisty ???
[05:40] <brosioz> the date exists ?
[05:40] <danny500> I always get a different set of problems with each new Ubuntu installation lol
[05:40] <Jucato> brosioz: target date April 19. may be a later
[05:41] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, ok
[05:41] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, realaudio is a format about a decade past its prime :\
[05:41] <Bluesaway> brosioz, April 19
[05:41] <Mena> yes ok
[05:41] <danny500> oh another thing, my Linux has mixxed up the location of my disc drives
[05:42] <Jucato> hak5fan: sorry, really not sure what's happening here :(
[05:42] <danny500> It thinks that my burner is just a reader and my reader is a burner
[05:42] <Mena> Daisuke_Ido, Thanks
[05:42] <Mena> bye
[05:42] <danny500> I'm going to take it out back and shoot it
[05:42] <danny500> brb
[05:42] <danny500> lol
[05:42] <brosioz> Bluesaway: Jucato thx
[05:43] <danny500> wait a minute
[05:43] <danny500> does anyone know anything about DCOP communication?
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> poor ol' yeller :(
[05:43] <Jucato> danny500: is dcopserver running?
[05:44] <danny500> cause it's complaining about that so if I fix that it might work
[05:44] <danny500> I don't know
[05:44] <danny500> how do I check?
[05:44] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc :)
[05:44] <danny500> nothing happened
[05:44] <gdiebel> alt+f2 and type kdcop
[05:45] <intelikey> danny500 if you get it all fixed and do;    sudo passwd -dl root ;echo '' | sudo tee /etc/sudoers    you'll stop having new problems            NOTE.  cause you wont be able to do anything admin'ish   :)
[05:45] <Jucato> gdiebel: that only runs kdcop
[05:45] <Jucato> danny500: the Process Table up didn't show up?
[05:45] <intelikey> the more you play as uid=0 the more chance of issues.
[05:46] <danny500> I typed kdcop
[05:46] <danny500> it said can't connect to x server
[05:46] <Jucato> hm... what have you done... :/
[05:47] <danny500> uh oh
[05:48] <danny500> how do I get it back/
[05:48] <stevethepirate> that was a cockup... nvidia drivers crashed my x11 conf file..
[05:48] <stevethepirate> *sigh*
[05:48] <danny500> Jucato, I'm emailing you what I just got
[05:48] <danny500> check gmail
[05:49] <Jucato> danny500: um.. I'm about to go to bed :(
[05:49] <stevethepirate> Whats a good linux dc++ client? apart from valknut..
[05:49] <aeergalus> ayuda por favor
[05:49] <danny500> sent it
[05:49] <stevethepirate> anyone?
[05:50] <aaroncampbell> Where can I go to see if my card needs nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[05:50] <intelikey> !nv | aaroncampbell
[05:50] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <intelikey> that page should have a link
[05:51] <aaroncampbell> intelikey: I've been through most of those, but I'll go check again.  They all talked about nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-legacy, but not the new nvidia-glx-new
[05:53] <intelikey> aaroncampbell ah yes it's seems you are right....   sorry for the blank help.
[05:55] <intelikey> hmmm here's what happens if you rm root from /etc/passwd   user@localhost# sudo echo yes
[05:55] <intelikey> sudo: no passwd entry for root!
[05:55] <intelikey> sendmail: fatal: chdir /var/spool/postfix: No such file or directory
[05:55] <intelikey> oh the last is not related   sorry.
[05:59] <jhutchins> intelikey: Anything particular you were trying to accomplish by removing root, or was it a random experiment?
[05:59] <intelikey> jhutchins yeah.
[06:00] <the_hammer> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz 2047.968 MHz | Bogomips: 8195.79 | Mem: 847/1011M [||||||||||]  | Diskspace: 72.29G Free: 62.81G | Procs: 99 | Uptime: 20 mins 35 secs | Load: 0.21 0.37 0.32  | Vpenis: 64.2 cm | Screen: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 (rev a1) @ 1024x768 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 117.66M Out: 3.21M
[06:00] <mrigns> Sysinfo for 'mrigns-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-14-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz at 1867 MHz (3724 bogomips), HD: 59/227GB, RAM: 1974/2026MB, 144 proc's, 4.4d up
[06:03] <jhutchins> intelikey: Got it fixed now?
[06:03] <anti_pop> is it safe to use kleansweep ? it found more than 1 gig "waste" ??
[06:04] <jhutchins> !info kleansweep
[06:04] <ubotu> kleansweep: File cleaner for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 131 kB, installed size 448 kB
[06:04] <intelikey> i really don't much like ubuntu's dpkg   cause there are so many errors in the  prerm and postinst  scripts.  it keep the package database messed up...
[06:04] <intelikey> jhutchins sure.   weren't nothin.
[06:06] <hak5fan> Jucato: I'll ask my question on LQ or something then
[06:06] <yaccin|laptop> !w32codecs
[06:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:07] <esmarch> list
[06:08] <intelikey> one would think that   "dpkg -P --force-all postfix"  would work.  but no!      dpkg: error processing postfix (--purge):
[06:08] <intelikey>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[06:09] <sppt> hello, how do i get a midi device working? im using an ALi M5455
[06:09] <hak5fan> How do I set a task to run every minute.. I think I need to use cron, but I'm really not sure how to configure things
[06:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hak5fan: you are correct that you need to use cron
[06:11] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to use it myself though
[06:11] <intelikey> the offending line in the script is    "  /etc/init.d/postfixd stop "    so if it's not running you simply can't remove it.   thus if you have an issue with postfix it can't be removed.   stupidest thing i've ever... no,  no it's not.  but close maybe.
[06:11] <intelikey> i have setup a cron job just to learn how.... don't remember much more than that about it...
[06:12] <intelikey> * * * * * * 59 command args        ummmm or one less *    maybe.    i don't recall...
[06:14] <tang^> man 5 crontab will tell you how the crontab file is set up
[06:14] <tang^> man crontab tells how to edit your crontab
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah 5 stars.  should run each minute of each hour of each day ...
[06:20] <hak5fan> This is very complicated
[06:23] <Vrenn> Good evening, I installed Kubuntu 7.04 Beta on a PC ad It works perfekt (exept of acpi=force putting in grub after each update), now what happens if final 7.04 comes out? becomes it automatically stable?
[06:24] <intelikey> hak5fan not really.    add a line in /etc/crontab that reads     * * * * *  <user> <command> <args>     <<< inturpret all within <>
[06:25] <blekos_> i need ur help!! i run sudo deborphan | sudo xargs apt-get remove -y to remove the orhpan packaged and now i am without openoffice, firestarter, firefox etc...
[06:25] <blekos_> i need ur help!! i run sudo deborphan | sudo xargs apt-get remove -y to remove the orhpan packaged and now i am without openoffice, firestarter, firefox etc...
[06:25] <blekos_> any ideas?
[06:25] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, no you have to upgrade to the official release, which will be different than your beta version.
[06:26] <intelikey> echo boo | xargs echo
[06:26] <danny500> YES!
[06:26] <danny500> I DID IT!
[06:26] <danny500> WOPPY!
[06:26] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: thanks, then I'll wait until final comes out and then search for a guide/toolbutton to do that
[06:27] <danny500> all I had to do was tell Ubuntu to run DCOP lol
[06:27] <danny500> now my program are working better
[06:27] <danny500> thanks guys
[06:27] <danny500> actually I keep getting this error message
[06:27] <danny500> Will not save configuration.
[06:27] <danny500> Configuration file "/home/danny500/.kde/share/config/konversationrc" not writable.
[06:27] <danny500> Configuration file "/home/danny500/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[06:27] <danny500> Please contact your system administrator.
[06:28] <BluesKaj> yeah, I tried Feisty but i had no joy...broke my kernel :(   I fooled with it too much
[06:28] <TheInfinity> hmm ... is there a way to switch the keyboard layout fast? something like an switch button in controlbar?
[06:28] <Eruantalon> Vrenn: It should.
[06:28] <Vrenn> Eruantalon: should what? upgrade automatically?
[06:29] <Eruantalon> yes
[06:29] <hak5fan> intelikey: done
[06:29] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: feisty is beta ;)
[06:29] <BluesKaj> no kidding
[06:30] <danny500> DAMNIT!
[06:30] <danny500> whats wrong with this thing?
[06:30] <danny500> Failed to run /usr/bin/software-properties
[06:30] <danny500> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[06:30] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: Its on a PC for my mom, easy using was the goal, but for me (just Gentoo used) it's a big learning to let graphically tools do their job ;)
[06:30] <blekos_> is there a way that i can change startup programs?
[06:30] <BluesKaj> TheInfinity, thought it was abit more stable than it was
[06:31] <danny500> anyone?
[06:31] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: i always update my working system at release date - not before - because of those problems ;)
[06:31] <BluesKaj> yeah Vrenn..graphics are difficult , but Feisty promises easier installation of the required pkges ...we can only hope :)
[06:31] <danny500> nm I'll just go back to talking to the wall again, cya
[06:32] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: you are right, but I needet knetworkmanager for wpa, and kubuntu 7 is in this case easy going
[06:32] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: you have networkmanager also in 6.10 or 6.06
[06:32] <blekos_> anybody having problems with doing "version upgrade" via synaptics
[06:32] <TheInfinity> i use it since 6.06
[06:32] <TheInfinity> because i have wpa2 wlan ;)
[06:32] <blekos_> meant adept manager
[06:32] <runix> what package do i need to install to get kdevelop and/or qtdesigner ?
[06:33] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: but you have to install it seperately, I needet it fast
[06:33] <TheInfinity> installing/updating a whole distribution takes much longer then installing 2 packages ;)
[06:33] <Vrenn> and at last, its doing openoffice, firefox and thunderbird, all fine and easy
[06:34] <Agent_bob> is there anything in gnome like kfax ?
[06:35] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: I tried 6.0.6 (kubuntu and ubuntu) and opensuse, and knoppix (which had the worst hardware-dedection), kubuntu 7.04 did fit and was choosen
[06:35] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, what do think of open office ? ..I had a question about it's ease of use and compatability with MS Office docs etc .
[06:35] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: if you have new harware then its difficult with 6.10 - yes
[06:35] <Agent_bob> nobady ?
[06:36] <TheInfinity> i had to recompile the kernel because of a vista only board
[06:36] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: new... a P4 1,5Ghz system, a Dell, pure intel and a madwifi-card
[06:36] <Vrenn> and a ati rage 128
[06:36] <TheInfinity> oh okay ;)
[06:36] <TheInfinity> i had a mainboard from january 07 *g*
[06:36] <runix> damn i feel my desktop is bloated, somehow :(
[06:37] <TheInfinity> -> no sound and no network
[06:37] <Vrenn> but all debian-like-os seems to have problems with acpi, genoo or SuSe have no such poweroff problems (acpi=forse solves it)
[06:37] <alexicon> !gnome
[06:37] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:38] <BluesKaj> Vrenn, what's your opinion of Open Office vs MS Office ?
[06:38] <TheInfinity> debian is somehow blind in this - it trusts acpi too much - and then a lot of hardware factorys make bad acpi code ...
[06:38] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: thats why I personally use Genoo, no hardwaredetection, but you can add every driver manually you get from Linus or community :-)
[06:39] <bobstro> runix: kubuntu isn't exactly a "light" desktop!
[06:39] <TheInfinity> BluesKaj: openoffice is much more logic, ms office has only some things where it is better then ms office. and the ms office formula editor is crap *g*
[06:39] <Vrenn> BluesKaj: Openoffice is more Stable (images-position, big documents) and its portable, but I'm using them only as student, not as a workaholic...
[06:39] <TheInfinity> and BluesKaj: if you want to make really exact documents - use scribus or latex ;)
[06:40] <BluesKaj> Thinking of a friend who needs an office suite for his small online business
[06:40] <Vrenn> TheInfinity: you are true, give me a 48h-day and Ill learn that on my freetime...
[06:40] <TheInfinity> Vrenn: you save a lot of time if you make for example nature scientific protocols with latex
[06:41] <TheInfinity> its some work to get in it but then you save a lot time
[06:42] <Vrenn> yep, but its my last year before my final exam, latex has to wayt (hat enoughto do to learn c++ for my diplom/Master-work)
[06:43] <TheInfinity> diplom ... you are from germany, hmm? :9
[06:44] <Vrenn> no, a little bit south
[06:45] <TheInfinity> sireich?
[06:45] <Vrenn> yes
[06:45] <Vrenn> you?
[06:45] <TheInfinity> jut :) ... vielleicht an der sprache erkennbar deutsch :) ... but now back to english ;)
[06:46] <atidem> hi
[06:47] <BluesKaj> <---- english & svenska ...but have lived in Canada for 58 yrs :)
[06:47] <Mena> why the knetwork manager told me there is no device
[06:47] <Mena> this happened after an update
[06:48] <Mena> !knetwork
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Mena> !knetworkmanager
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <TheInfinity> 58 years ... wow :)
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !network
[06:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm old retired guy learning Linux :)
[06:48] <Mena> this wouldnt help as i guess
[06:49] <Vrenn> ok, thanks for the information, I'll have to go, have a nice evening
[06:49] <BluesKaj> c ya Vrenn
[06:49] <Mena> Thnaks any way
[06:49] <kenshiro1981> hi all
[06:50] <firecrotch> hi, kenshiro1981
[06:50] <arhangel> helo
[06:50] <kenshiro1981> i need your help
[06:50] <kenshiro1981> i want to install beryl
[06:51] <firecrotch> !beryl
[06:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:51] <kenshiro1981> oki thks for your help ubotu
[06:51] <arhangel> i wana install aol
[06:51] <arhangel> !aol
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <azrael_> ... lol
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> mdr
[06:52] <arhangel> azrael_ ...
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> lol
[06:52] <firecrotch> kenshiro1981: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy   is a great guide for installing beryl
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> ok firecrotch thhx
[06:52] <firecrotch> kenshiro1981: you're welcome :)
[06:52] <kenshiro1981> ^^
[06:53] <juan> im having trouble loading  firmware is there anything that can give me a more specific output than dmesg
[06:54] <spawn57> is it a usb device?
[06:54] <spawn57> if it is, then check out udevmonitor
[06:56] <juan> it stops on a line "UDEV  [1176224118.452074]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:57] <Filthpig> hmmm
[06:58] <Filthpig> I'm trying to do a make, but I get "autoconf not found, KDE needs autoconf 2.53 or newer!" But I have installed autoconf 2.61 :s
[06:59] <Filthpig> trying to install some baghira stuff to make kde look like macosx
[06:59] <Filthpig> anyone got a clue?
[07:01] <jermain> hi everyone
[07:01] <jermain> !usb
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <jhutchins> !build | Filthpig
[07:01] <ubotu> Filthpig: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:02] <jermain> I cant put files on my usb stick, does anyone have an idea what the cause might be?
[07:02] <jermain> :(
[07:03] <Filthpig> can you see the usb stick when you insert it?
[07:03] <jermain> yes i can
[07:03] <jermain> and when i put a file on it
[07:03] <jermain> its there too
[07:03] <jermain> but when i take it out
[07:03] <sputnik`> and when you unplug it, it doesn't exist correct?
[07:03] <jermain> and put it into another comp
[07:03] <jermain> the file is gone
[07:03] <Filthpig> have you unmounted it first?
[07:03] <jermain> ,..
[07:03] <sputnik`> i have this problem aswell.. does your USB drive have a LED indicator?
[07:03] <jermain> no i cant say i unmounted first
[07:03] <jermain> yea it does
[07:04] <sputnik`> okay.. the way how i went around this problem, was to wait until the LED indicator stopped flashing
[07:04] <Filthpig> if you right-click on the icon on the desktop, you can select "Safely remove" or something in that direction
[07:04] <sputnik`> even tho the file says it's done copying.. it's actaully not
[07:04] <sputnik`> wait until the drive is done
[07:04] <jermain> oic
[07:04] <jermain> I'll try that right now
[07:05] <Cantthinkofname> Hi!  So, I upgraded from dapper to edgy, and now my mouse doesn't work.
[07:06] <jhutchins> Anything you write to disk is buffered in ram until a "sync" command occurs.  When you unmount somethng, that sync's it, so the file is actually written to the device.
[07:07] <Cantthinkofname> I'm using a microsoft wireless intellimouse explorer 2.0, connected through a usb port.
[07:07] <jhutchins> Try this: copy some files to a mounted floppy.  Swap floppies without unmounting, then unmount.  Where will the files be?  Not on the first floppy.
[07:08] <david48> hello everyone. I have an issue with wine. Accentuated letters don't work on wine, though they work on kubuntu. any ideas ? I've tried looking for a solution on the web, no success.
[07:08] <sputnik`> hm inteesting.. how does the drive retain data if you wait for the USB flash drive to become idle?
[07:08] <sputnik`> does a sync command occur when the kernel resets the USB device?
[07:09] <intelikey> jhutchins not on the second either
[07:09] <jermain> sputnik, fitlhpig: thanks guys, it worked!
[07:09] <jhutchins> intelikey: No?
[07:09] <sputnik`> :)
[07:10] <intelikey> jhutchins not for me.   if you change disks on a mounted device all you get is io errors
[07:11] <jhutchins> intelikey: Ah, either mine doesn't signal, or the last time I did that it was before linux could detect the unmount.
[07:11] <Filthpig> erm
[07:11] <jhutchins> eject, whatever.
[07:11] <intelikey> jhutchins now usb may act differently than /dev/fd0
[07:12] <Filthpig> what was the command to enter the KDE system setting so I can change themes etc
[07:12] <Filthpig> ?
[07:12] <sputnik`> kcontrol ?
[07:12] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, I know if I don't unmount, pictures I delete from my camera will still be there.
[07:12] <Filthpig> aaaaaaah, thanks
[07:12] <Filthpig> haha
[07:12] <intelikey> jhutchins i was keying on the "Try this: copy some files to a mounted floppy.  Swap floppies..."
[07:13] <jhutchins> intelikey: Yeah, as I recall there are issues about when the floppy drive detects a disk change, it's not consistent in DOS either.
[07:13] <jhutchins> You know, we've been telling people various things to set programs to start with a session.  I found this on the beryl page: Go to System->Preferences->Sessions, click the "Startup Programs" tab, click the "Add" button.
[07:15] <intelikey> jhutchins i have done that by accident,   and you get io errors until you umount it.   but umounting it doesn't write the files...  it just stops the io error messages.
[07:15] <intelikey> ummm is that beryl specific tho ?
[07:16] <tang^> well, they get you to add beryl specific programs
[07:16] <tang^> but that's a standard functionality
[07:16] <jhutchins> intelikey: Nope, not bery specific as far as I can tell.
[07:17] <intelikey> k.    then it's in kcontrol i guess
[07:17] <jhutchins> s/bery/beryl/
[07:26] <franky> hello!!.. who is from romania?
[07:27] <jhutchins> !ro
[07:27] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[07:31] <jermain> !nl
[07:31] <jermain> !ne
[07:31] <jermain> ><
[07:31] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ne - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <jermain> :)
[07:31] <jermain> ubotu is cool
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is cool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <jermain> lol
[07:32] <jermain> well im gone, bye everyone!
[07:35] <don_jr__> Anyone help me out with using ndiswrapper?
[07:37] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[07:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:43] <premier_> hello, I'm running 6.10.  Should I upgrade to 7.04 yet?
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> premier_, well its like 7 days til the final 7.04 is released so you should probably wait a week
[07:45] <don_jr__> I run iwconfig and it doesn't show my essid, could someone please tell me the file that's kept in so I can add it?
[07:47] <geggam> /etc/network/interfaces
[07:48] <don_jr__> geggam thanks, I just found it, how do I run the network interfaces in kde as sudo? I know kdesu I just don't know the name of the network manager within kde?
[07:49] <don_jr__> also, rausb0 shows up in the iwconfig, but it does not show up in the /etc/network/interfaces file...where else can I look?
[07:49] <premier_> I use knetworkmanager, and sometimes if I'm switiching back and forth between wireless and ethernet, it'll stop working, sometimes it'll say "no network devices found".  Is there a way to restart my network devices?
[07:50] <geggam> don_jr__, just add it with an editor
[07:50] <geggam> man interfaces is very explanatory
[07:50] <don_jr__> geggam I don't know exatly what all to add.....I'll look at the file on my laptop that has working wireless and get it from there, be back in a sec
[08:04] <Kite_DH> !aptfix
[08:04] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:08] <busfahrer> I'm sorry this is apparently the wrong place to try out Konversation
[08:09] <mia> Is anyone able to play midi files with kubuntu ? Neither kmidi or amarok can play them here . :(
[08:14] <jhutchins> !midi | mia
[08:14] <ubotu> mia: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:21] <carlos> is there a way to get with dcop the configured default mail client in KDE?
[08:28] <Filthpig> hi
[08:28] <Filthpig> how do I run a script?
[08:28] <Filthpig> heh
[08:28] <mia> ./scriptname
[08:29] <mia> maybe doing chmod +x scriptname for making it executable
[08:29] <Filthpig> I mean, I found a script in a howto, but how do I get the #! /bin/sh line so I can run it?
[08:30] <mia> you just put the script in a textfile and then make it executable and run it ?
[08:30] <Filthpig> am I making sense? hahah
[08:30] <Filthpig> hm
[08:30] <mia> Or i misunderstood you :)
[08:31] <Filthpig> I don't know which
[08:31] <Filthpig> haha
[08:31] <don_jr__> I disconnected my network cable then reconnected it, how do I reset the network to see that it's connected again?
[08:31] <Filthpig> ok, let's start again
[08:31] <mia> ifconfig eth0 up ?
[08:31] <trpr> mia: beat me to it
[08:31] <Filthpig> I found some lines that are to be added to a script so that I don't have to do a lot of work on my own.
[08:31] <mia> trpr: what do you mean ?
[08:32] <trpr> mia: i mean you pressed enter two seconds before i did ;)
[08:32] <mia> ah ok :)
[08:32] <Filthpig> and the screenshot for the script contains this "#! /bin/sh" and I'm supposed to paste the lines beneath it
[08:32] <don_jr__> got it up, thanks
[08:32] <mia> hmm , i'm still not able to get my midi files playing argh
[08:32] <Filthpig> but how did I do that?
[08:33] <don_jr__> working and running!
[08:33] <mia> There is no package timidy in the package manager
[08:33] <don_jr__> thanks alot
[08:33] <don_jr__> i'm outta here for a bit
[08:33] <mia> no problem :)
[08:33] <TabCtrl> kubuntu
[08:33] <TabCtrl> yubuntu
[08:39] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone know of a way to use the lightscribe capabilities of my DVD burner on Kubuntu?
[08:39] <mia> doesn't K3B has some options for it ?
[08:40] <Vincent_k> anyone have some advice of a good howto to configure a wireless connection with wpa in textmode?
[08:40] <mia> !wpa
[08:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:41] <mia> Vincent , that's a nice place to start searching ?
[08:41] <gemidjy> in Kubuntu Feisty will/is there (be) a way to activate Beryl as easy as in Ubuntu Feisty ?
[08:41] <Vincent_k> thanks I'll check it out
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> gemidjy: yes but more questions should go to #ubuntu+1, that is the Feisty channel
[08:42] <mia> gemidjy: I didn't used beryl in kubuntu , but i now that it's very easy to use under gentoo , just installing it and adding it to kde/autostart
[08:42] <gemidjy> Admiral_Chicago: :) thanks
[08:42] <tuco> Kubuntu is not switching off normally anymore. I have to press the reset key for 5 secs to stop the pc. Added acpi=force into boot/grub, but still not working. Help
[08:42] <philzink> yop!
[08:42] <gemidjy> mia: that is not my question, I was interested in weather endusers will be able to make beryl work by default since Beryl-settings manager is way too heavy for endusers
[08:42] <mia> why is that gemidjy ?
[08:43] <gemidjy> why is what?
[08:43] <gemidjy> beryl-manager heavy ?
[08:43] <mia> I didn't found it really hard to install under my dear gentoo ... i'm not a 'experienced' user
[08:43] <mia> yes
[08:43] <gemidjy> u are not experienced user and u use gentoo?
[08:43] <mia> by default beryl manager gives some nice settings
[08:43] <aaroncampbell> mia: not that I've seen
[08:43] <mia> True , i just like portage more then apt :)
[08:43] <gemidjy> I am talking for users that come from Windows, much more unexperienced
[08:43] <mia> ok
[08:44] <mia> but after all , do they want some alpha/beta software ?
[08:44] <mia> When they got some problems with beryl , like black/White screens , lock-ups , ...
[08:44] <mia> Do they know how to fix it then ?
[08:44] <gemidjy> they wouldn't
[08:44] <mia> In my opinion not , so they are stuck with some beryl ... they can't change to kwin and they can't fix
[08:44] <carlos> how can I use the tar protocol instead of ark by default?
[08:45] <mia> So maybe it's better to give them kwin , wich works very stable , out of the box
[08:45] <mia> and let the 'a bit more expierenced' users install beryl themselves
[08:45] <tuco> Guys why can't I switch Kubuntu normally anymore?
[08:45] <mia> when they got a 'not working beryl' , they kan easily remove the autostart script from /kde/autostart
[08:45] <wolferine> can you match up html tags in Bluefish?
[08:46] <tuco> added acpi=force into boot/grub but it still doesn't work
[08:48] <tuco> Kubuntu not turning off normally anymore. Anyone can help?
[08:50] <cpk1> "switch" kubuntu normally?
[08:50] <tuco> Well basically when I want to log out, it goes back to desktop and then all I get is black screen and it stays there still powered on.
[08:51] <tuco> I have to press the rest button to switch the pc off.
[08:51] <cpk1> can you go to a different terminal?
[08:51] <tuco> like what cpk1?
[08:51] <cpk1> like tty1
[08:52] <tuco> tty1....ooooh never heard of that!
[08:52] <tuco> this works though: konsole poweroff -h now?
[08:52] <cpk1> ctrl alt and an f-key will take you to a different terminal tuco
[08:53] <tuco> I press ctrl alt and the f key...nothing happens
[08:53] <mia> F1 tuco
[08:53] <mia> or F2
[08:53] <cpk1> i suppose, whenever I want to shut down via console I just use sudo poweroff
[08:53] <mia> some F key like that ;)
[08:53] <mia> F7 to get back in this session
[08:54] <mia> why not doing 'sudo shutdown -h now' ?
[08:54] <cpk1> f1 - f6 are command line and f7 and up are for X servers
[08:54] <cpk1> traditionally
[08:54] <tuco> you lost me now...
[08:55] <mia> tuco: That wasn't really important
[08:55] <mia> can you shutdown your computer by typing 'sudo shutdown -h now' in Konsole ?
[08:55] <tuco> yes
[08:56] <mia> and what happens if you try to shutdown it on the normal way ?
[08:56] <tuco> via the Log out/ turn off computer?
[08:56] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[08:56] <mia> yes
[08:57] <tuco> Basically it shows the desktop with only the wallpaper and then becomes black. Nothing happens and the power stays on
[08:57] <tuco> And Bob isn't my uncle anymore!
[08:57] <puppetmaster> the screen resolution is not configured
[08:57] <btse> how about ctrl-alt-backspace?
[08:58] <puppetmaster> I tried every thinf
[08:58] <puppetmaster> I tried every thing
[08:58] <puppetmaster> and every refresh  rate
[08:58] <cpk1> puppetmaster: you mean you are stuck at a low screen resolution?
[08:58] <puppetmaster> it's not like that
[08:59] <puppetmaster> there is a black slides
[08:59] <btse> tuco, ?
[08:59] <tuco> I have added acpi=force into boot/grub but it didn't change anything
[08:59] <puppetmaster> on the corner of the screen
[08:59] <mia> puppetmaster: Are you using Beryl or XGL ?
[08:59] <tuco> yes btse?
[08:59] <puppetmaster> my VGA card is NVIDIA
[08:59] <btse> tuco, if you try ctrl-alt-backspace?
[08:59] <jhutchins> tuco: what happens if you remove that, same thing?
[08:59] <cpk1> so just stretch the monitor out then
[08:59] <mia> You are running nvidia drivers ?
[08:59] <puppetmaster> I'm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS Gnome
[09:00] <puppetmaster> my VGA is: Nvidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 6
[09:00] <mia> puppetmaster: Are you running nvidia (blob) drivers ?
[09:01] <puppetmaster> no it was installed automatically
[09:01] <puppetmaster> I'm new to linux world by the way
[09:01] <tuco> well I did
[09:01] <tuco> looked like it restarted the session but very quickly
[09:01] <puppetmaster> SO
[09:02] <btse> tuco, and then...?
[09:02] <tuco> then what?
[09:02] <tuco> back to the desktop :-)
[09:02] <btse> ah, ok...
[09:02] <cpk1> the problem with sudo shutdown -h now is that it doesnt save any of your session stuff does it?
[09:03] <tuco> but when I did it looked like it very quickly restarted
[09:03] <tuco> I have an ati card and fglrx installed if that helps
[09:03] <btse> tuco, yes c-a-bs restarts X so remeber to save :-)
[09:03] <btse> tuco, but if X hangs you can sometimes kill it and restart
[09:04] <puppetmaster> please anyone help me
[09:04] <tuco> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash acpi=force
[09:04] <tuco> I've added the acpi=force but but nada
[09:04] <tuco>  c-a-bs?
[09:04] <btse> control-alt-backspace
[09:05] <tuco> I don't understand...save what btse?
[09:05] <btse> save your work, all open applications will get killed too
[09:05] <tuco> yes it did
[09:05] <puppetmaster> mia where are you?
[09:06] <tuco> but why the normal turn off doesn't work anymore...it was fine before
[09:06] <mia> I'm still here
[09:06] <puppetmaster> so what should I do?
[09:06] <mia> But i think you're problem is caused by you graphical driverr
[09:06] <mia> try installing nvidia drivers
[09:06] <puppetmaster> is there any package gor my VGA card
[09:06] <mia> !nvidia | puppetmaster
[09:06] <puppetmaster> ?
[09:06] <ubotu> puppetmaster: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <puppetmaster> yes
[09:06] <puppetmaster> RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 6
[09:06] <mia> follow that wiki :)
[09:07] <puppetmaster> I'll then I'll get back to you
[09:07] <tuco> btse?
[09:07] <puppetmaster> thanks alot
[09:07] <thill2708> is there a daemon program that I can run that will download nzbs in an rss feed I provide?
[09:08] <thill2708> er, specify?
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: The problem would appear to be that your power management chipset isn't being properly accessed.
[09:08] <tuco> Ah
[09:08] <tuco> What can I do Admiral?
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: There are a number of different ways to handle that, apic, acpi, apmd.
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: I would recommend googling for your exact laptop model and linux, and maybe power, see what you find.
[09:09] <tuco> I have added acpi=force to the boot/grub
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: Which apparently did no good, right?
[09:09] <tuco> No my lord
[09:09] <tuco> I have to try something else
[09:09] <jhutchins> tuco: apic is likely, apmd is older.
[09:10] <ASmith42> Can I open an Outlook calendar?
[09:10] <tuco> it did nothing as far as it seems
[09:10] <thill2708> anyone? Does anyone know of an rss downloader daemon?
[09:10] <jhutchins> thill2708: akregator
[09:10] <thill2708> jhutchins, will it run in the background?
[09:11] <tuco> what about: ap power_off=1?
[09:11] <jhutchins> thill2708: Yup.  System tray applet.
[09:11] <thill2708> jhutchins; even more background than that.
[09:11] <jhutchins> tuco: Like I said, search your specific laptop.  It's a bios level thing, not something that's going to be standard on other comptuers.
[09:11] <thill2708> no gui, nothing
[09:12] <tuco> Well I never had problems before :-(
[09:12] <thill2708> totally automatic and in the background
[09:12] <jhutchins> thill2708: How will you get output?
[09:13] <thill2708> log file, perhaps? Maybe I'll run it in a screen session, like hellanzb
[09:13] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, tell me your specific laptop model and _I'll_ google it.
[09:13] <tuco> acer 5672
[09:13] <jhutchins> thill2708: snownews?
[09:14] <tuco> duo core, ati x1400, 1 gg ddII, 80 hdd
[09:14] <tuco> aspire 5672
[09:15] <thill2708> jhutchins; I basically want a damon that will check an rss feed, download the newewst nzb (or whatever is attached), and put it in a specified directory
[09:18] <jhutchins> tuco: WHat did you most recently update?
[09:18] <tuco> well the ati drivers, logitech webcam
[09:19] <jhutchins> thill2708: Sourceforge or Freshmeat might have something.  I think most people would just write a bash script and run it with cron, possibly using wget.
[09:19] <jhutchins> tuco: Kernel?
[09:19] <tuco> change sound card defaut
[09:19] <tuco> nope still .<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:19] <jhutchins> Is apmd running?
[09:20] <tuco> ampd?
[09:20] <tuco> how can I check?
[09:21] <ASmith42> Answered my question: Outlook calendars can be merged into Kontact.
[09:24] <lol> anybody here?
[09:24] <Black_Cat> no.
[09:24] <lol> where can i see all channels?
[09:24] <Black_Cat> in /list
[09:24] <tuco> Jhutchins?
[09:24] <lol> aha?
[09:24] <eagles0513875> how can i extract an ini file needed for my internal wifi to work from an exe
[09:25] <lol>  /list aha nice thx
[09:25] <alakhia> I have vim installed. But I don't get color highlighting ... how can I fix this please?
[09:27] <lol> u can change
[09:27] <eagles0513875> !feisty |eagles0513875
[09:29] <lol> i dont understand this
[09:29] <eagles0513875> understand what
[09:29] <lol> is this Ubuntu IRC only channels with ubuntu things?
[09:30] <tuco> Has Jhutchins been beamed yet?
[09:30] <carlos> alakhia: add :syntax on to ~/.vimrc
[09:32] <lol> hi
[09:34] <lol> how too change kdm theme in kubuntu?
[09:34] <flipjarg> Hello all,
[09:35] <lol> ?
[09:35] <flipjarg> Does anyone know what could be causing Kubuntu to login to the login screen?
[09:35] <flipjarg> i login with the correct pass and it returns to the login screen.
[09:35] <bronze_0_1> %rephrase  Please rephrase the question or clarify the scope|requirements of what you want
[09:36] <flipjarg> bronze_0_1: are you a bot?
[09:36] <bronze_0_1> why?
[09:36] <lol> try give us output
[09:36] <flipjarg> bronze_0_1: Because the way you typed that seems like the output of a bot.
[09:37] <bronze_0_1> thats just a macro.  saves typing
[09:37] <flipjarg> oh lol
[09:37] <lol> ?
[09:37] <flipjarg> Well, i boot up as usual. It brings me to the login screen.... i type my password then it acts as if it is going to login....
[09:37] <flipjarg> it returns to the login screen.
[09:37] <bronze_0_1> no error message?
[09:37] <flipjarg> no
[09:38] <lol> go to tty1
[09:38] <flipjarg> already have. i can login.
[09:38] <bronze_0_1> hmm, well either its the wrong password, or something is bombing out, or your system has been pwned
[09:38] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[09:38] <alexicon> how can i find out which version of gtk+ i have installed?
[09:38] <puppetmaster> Anyone knows how to setup Beryl
[09:38] <puppetmaster> ???
[09:38] <lol> yes
[09:38] <puppetmaster> how
[09:38] <lol> read on internet
[09:39] <alexicon> indeed
[09:39] <puppetmaster> I'm using ubuntu 6.06LTS
[09:39] <alexicon> lol
[09:39] <flipjarg> http://wiki.beryl-project.org
[09:39] <lol> :P
[09:39] <lol> how u write in red?
[09:39] <puppetmaster> When I updated my source.list I got error
[09:40] <lol> give us eroor messenge
[09:40] <lol> but why u have 6.06 ?
[09:40] <puppetmaster> ????
[09:41] <lol> why you not upgrade your system too 6.10
[09:41] <puppetmaster> that's the error message
[09:42] <puppetmaster>  Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection tim ed out
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Err http://givre.cabspace.com dapper Release.gpg
[09:42] <puppetmaster>   Could not connect to givre.cabspace.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed o ut
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Fetched 61.2kB in 2m0s (507B/s)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Co uld not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed o ut
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg  Could  not connect to givre.cabspace.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[09:42] <puppetmaster> Failed to fetch http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-backports/main/ source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com dapper Release: The following signatur es couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CC919 A31E23C5FC3
[09:42] <puppetmaster> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[09:42] <puppetmaster> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[09:42] <puppetmaster> so what should I do?
[09:42] <lol> open terminal and write  sudo update-manager -c -d
[09:42] <puppetmaster> ok wait please
[09:43] <wolferine> why, when I go to a .php page, does my browser attempt to dl it, instead of displaying it?
[09:43] <wolferine> i know this is something simple....
[09:43] <puppetmaster> then
[09:44] <lol> i dont know try look in u browser konfigurestion
[09:44] <Daskreech2> !feisty
[09:44] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:44] <lol> april 19.
[09:45] <tuco> So should I reinstall Edgy now since the lappie doesn't turn off normally?
[09:45] <puppetmaster> should I upgrade to 6.10
[09:46] <puppetmaster> ?
[09:46] <lol> dunno but why not? its a newer version
[09:46] <tuco> well in 10 days you have fawn wait me thinks
[09:46] <Daskreech2>  !schedule
[09:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:46] <smile> hi linuxian .. i have a problem in windows
[09:46] <wolferine> anyone?
[09:47] <wolferine> i know its something real simple, not to do with the browser
[09:47] <lol> ubotu, but why they make new version so fats? it stress me
[09:47] <tuco> Anybody encountered a problem with turning the machine off normally in Edgy?
[09:47] <smile> can i read and modify *.EXE &  *.DLL files under Linux ?
[09:47] <vlt|home> Hello. How can I tell the X-server or kdm/kde that my display is rotated 90 CW and mouse movement and screen orientation have to be transformed? Is X the one in charge here?
[09:48] <vlt|home> smile: You can modify any file under Linux ;_)
[09:48] <smile> vlt|home: can i do that with Kate ?
[09:49] <vlt|home> smile: No, I don't think so 'cause kate is a text editor.  Do I have to add these lines at the end of the script?
[09:57] <tuco> suggestion is to add "acpi=off apm=power_off" to menu.lst and "apm power_off=1" to /etc/modules
[09:58] <robert^> lol: see http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=50240 ?
[10:00] <lol> robert, you danish?
[10:00] <robert^> lol: no
[10:00] <lol> how did you understand then?
[10:00] <tuco> how do I upgrade my kernel?
[10:01] <lol> robert thx i like that suse menu ;) now i will se if i can install it
[10:02] <blekos> is anybody having problems with the repos?
[10:03] <wolferine> blekos which?
[10:04] <blekos> i try to install vlc but i get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:04] <HaSH> blekos, only one prosses can use the package manager at a time
[10:04] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[10:04] <HaSH> you must have more then one open.
[10:05] <puppetmaster> Anyone know how to repair the source.list file???
[10:06] <markelhas> hi, i've removed sun java 5 and installed sun java 6, but now when i type java one my shell i can't use it. how can i fix this?
[10:06] <blekos> sorry, the right message is:
[10:06] <blekos> Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main libcucul0 0.99.beta11.debian-2build1
[10:06] <blekos>   404 Not Found
[10:06] <pollyo> !adept
[10:06] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:06] <lol> puppetmaster what is in it?
[10:06] <pollyo> !fixadept
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <HaSH> puppetmaster, yea its in /etc/apt/source.list you can generate a new one with source o matic
[10:06] <pollyo> !adeptcrash
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <puppetmaster> how to???
[10:06] <HaSH> !sourceomatic | puppetmaster
[10:06] <ubotu> puppetmaster: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:06] <tuco> Guys how can I make sure I use the latest kernel?
[10:06] <markelhas> now i cant run azures to :( and other tools that need java vm
[10:07] <markelhas> any tips!?
[10:07] <pollyo> !adeptfix
[10:07] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:07] <HaSH> tuco, sudo apt-cache search kernel then uname -r to see the current kernel version
[10:07] <lol> puppetmaster open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sourc.lst
[10:07] <lol> puppetmaster open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[10:08] <lol> ups
[10:08] <lol> 2.
[10:08] <tuco> and if I need to update it?
[10:08] <HaSH> sudo apt-get install linux-image.2.x.x.x
[10:08] <markelhas> i've also tried to reinstall the java 6 but nothing seems to work
[10:09] <tuco> <IP_ADDRESS> is what I have
[10:09] <HaSH> tuco, or you can try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...that should update the kernel
[10:09] <tuco> nothing...ah well maybe I have the latest kernel :-)
[10:10] <tuco> Thanks Hash
[10:10] <markelhas> any one!?
[10:10] <HaSH> tuco, what poe
[10:10] <HaSH> *one
[10:10] <tuco> But my most important issue is the machine doesn't turn off normally
[10:10] <HaSH> paste the output of uname -r here
[10:11] <tuco> 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:11] <HaSH> 2.6.17-11-generic is the newest for me.
[10:11] <tuco> Doh!
[10:11] <HaSH> did you set you your sources correctly?
[10:11] <HaSH> !sourceomatic | tuco
[10:11] <ubotu> tuco: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:12] <HaSH> do there and copy pate the contents of that to /etc/apt/source.conf
[10:12] <HaSH> *go
[10:12] <HaSH> * /etc/apt-sources.list
[10:12] <HaSH> bah
[10:12] <HaSH> * /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:13] <HaSH> tuco, are you fimiler with repositorys and stuff?.
[10:13] <HaSH> !repositorys
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <HaSH> !repository
[10:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:13] <HaSH> !repository | tuco
[10:13] <ubotu> tuco: please see above
[10:13] <HaSH> haha smart little bot
[10:13] <lol> lol
[10:14] <tuco> I am on it now Chief :-)
[10:14] <HaSH> looks weird when you lol lol
[10:14] <HaSH> tuco, once ya do that youll have access to ALOT of packages around 20,000
[10:15] <tuco> 20261 to be exact :-)
[10:15] <HaSH> hehe.
[10:16] <ASmith42> How to install SDL?
[10:16] <tuco> and there goes 134 mb of updates...sweet as! ;-)
[10:16] <tuco> Hope it corrects my turning off problem
[10:17] <puppetmaster> The source.list still gives error when I upgrade to ubuntu 6.10?
[10:17] <puppetmaster> please help
[10:18] <ASmith42> Gives errors?
[10:18] <groux> Hi to All
[10:18] <lol> lol
[10:18] <groux> someone speak Spanish
[10:18] <lol> haha?
[10:18] <puppetmaster> anyone
[10:18] <lol> weird why?
[10:18] <puppetmaster> please
[10:18] <groux> I Need Help
[10:18] <groux> :S
[10:19] <groux> shit
[10:19] <groux> sorry
[10:19] <ASmith42> !es
[10:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:19] <lol> puppetmaster DO THIS : open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst      and give us all there is stand there
[10:21] <lol> ups sry forgot "i"
[10:21] <lol> puppetmaster DO THIS : open terminal write   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and give us all there is stand there
[10:21] <lol> now with i
[10:21] <puppetmaster> it gaved me a wite page
[10:22] <puppetmaster> it didn't give me anything
[10:22] <lol> sry i forgot i
[10:22] <puppetmaster> what??
[10:23] <lol> look agin just sources.list  not sources.lst
[10:24] <puppetmaster> the same
[10:24] <lol> no
[10:25] <puppetmaster> ok wait
[10:25] <lol> you have kubuntu?
[10:25] <puppetmaster> you need what's written inside?
[10:26] <lol> yes
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # Automatically generated sources.list
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[10:26] <puppetmaster> #
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[10:26] <puppetmaster> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[10:26] <puppetmaster> So
[10:26] <lol> thats all?
[10:27] <puppetmaster> yes
[10:27] <puppetmaster> that's all I'm sure
[10:27] <blekos_> vlc
[10:27] <lol> you have ubuntu 6.06?
[10:27] <blekos_> cannot b installed in feisty fawn, any ideas?
[10:27] <puppetmaster> yes
[10:27] <lol> i have vlc
[10:27] <puppetmaster> and I want to upgrade to 6.10 ?
[10:27] <lol> w8
[10:28] <puppetmaster> So what's the solution?
[10:28] <markelhas> hi, i've removed sun java 5 and installed sun java 6, but now when i type java one my shell i can't use it. how can i fix this?
[10:28] <lol> u remove all and put in this 2 sec
[10:29] <wolferine> markelhas, java what?
[10:29] <puppetmaster> lol R u there
[10:29] <puppetmaster> ?
[10:29] <wolferine> did you use the extension?
[10:29] <lol> yes
[10:29] <lol> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:29] <puppetmaster> so
[10:29] <lol> look
[10:29] <markelhas> wolferine: i've used adept manager
[10:29] <puppetmaster> ok
[10:30] <markelhas> wolferine: installed sun java 6 jre and bin
[10:30] <markelhas> wolferine: and now can run tools that need java
[10:30] <lol> blekos , i have vlc in 7.04 and it is working fine
[10:31] <puppetmaster> It didn't help me?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: maybe something wrong with adept manager!
[10:31] <wolferine> markelhas, what command did you type (which gave you the error) ?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: java -version
[10:31] <lol> what did you do?
[10:31] <markelhas> wolferine: bash: java: command not found
[10:32] <puppetmaster> i tried that a moment ago
[10:32] <wolferine> you installed the JRE
[10:32] <puppetmaster> and it didn't help
[10:32] <wolferine> not sure if thats what you want
[10:32] <markelhas> wolferine: yap bin and jre
[10:32] <puppetmaster> Do U have a source.list
[10:32] <wolferine> check the Ubuntu Guide (google it), for installing Java
[10:32] <puppetmaster> which I can use it
[10:32] <puppetmaster> and u r sure of it?
[10:33] <markelhas> wolferine: ok i've done that, i'll keep trying.
[10:33] <puppetmaster> Do U have lol?
[10:33] <carlos> is there any package of kio_rar for kubuntu out there?
[10:33] <lol> do this open terminal write  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and replace it all with  :
[10:33] <lol> ## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
[10:33] <reagleBRKLN> how do you configure/find-out the super key? I have a kinesis keyboard and wonder what my super key is.
[10:33] <lol> ## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.
[10:33] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:33] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:33] <wolferine> markelhas, what did you do already?
[10:33] <lol> ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[10:34] <lol> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> lol
[10:34] <wolferine> thats what pastebin is for
[10:34] <markelhas> wolferine: i've gone to java sun page and look the guide to install java for linux
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> !pastebin | lol
[10:34] <lol> ## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[10:34] <ubotu> lol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:34] <wolferine> lol, please stop
[10:34] <lol> ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[10:34] <lol> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ dapper free non-free
[10:34] <lol> ## CANONICAL COMMERCIAL REPOSITORY (Hosted on Canonical servers, not Ubuntu
[10:34] <lol> ## servers. RealPlayer10, Opera and more to come.)
[10:34] <lol> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[10:34] <lol> ?
[10:34] <lol> pasterbin???
[10:34] <wolferine> markelhas, which is different then what I told you
[10:35] <lol> sorry but its first time i use irc
[10:35] <wolferine> lol, why do you think we want to see you flood the channel like that
[10:35] <markelhas> wolferine: i've reinstall tthe java 5 and now it works, but the azures does run
[10:35] <wolferine> markelhas, installing Axureus is also in the Guide
[10:35] <wolferine> gives step by step for everything
[10:35] <lol> how should i write it then?
[10:36] <wolferine> i think you might want to read it over
[10:36] <wolferine> !pastebin | lol
[10:36] <ubotu> lol: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <markelhas> wolferine: ok
[10:36] <lol> !pastebin | lol
[10:36] <lol> ?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> why azureus ...ktorrent is better IMO and not as hoggy
[10:38] <blekos_> well for some reason the repos 4 awhile were closed... now i installed vlc
[10:38] <wolferine> i cannot help to get around the hoggy, because of my router
[10:39] <wolferine> lol, if you read what is posted after I typed in !pastebin | lol :: then you will clearly read what you need to know
[10:39] <MinceR> rtorrent is even better :>
[10:39] <wolferine> the message that ubotu posts to you
[10:40] <BluesKaj> ktorrent can configged with your router , wolferine... it works well behind mine
[10:40] <BluesKaj> err can be configged
[10:41] <wolferine> but this is because of this exact router
[10:41] <jhutchins> tuco: I seem to have the same problem with a toshiba Satellite a15 running off the CD.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> use azureus if ya love java
[10:41] <lol> wolferine, so i just give link then? after i make a pasterbin
[10:41] <wolferine> so I know it is the same issue no matter which torrent client I use
[10:42] <wolferine> lol, correct, that way the ppl helping can look at your pastebin
[10:42] <lol> but how long is it gonna stand there?
[10:43] <wolferine> lol, some pastebins will allow you to set a time frame
[10:43] <wolferine> others, may not
[10:43] <wolferine> why are you posting it anyways?
[10:43] <wolferine> where is the issue?
[10:44] <lol> okey thx
[10:45] <wolferine> BluesKaj, I have tried other clients
[10:45] <wolferine> i just didnt "fiddle" with the settings as much as I did with Azureus
[10:46] <BluesKaj> wolferine, what probs do you have with torrent clients ?
[10:48] <wolferine> lagging during web surfing
[10:48] <wolferine> but thats about it
[10:48] <BluesKaj> wolferine, you map the the required ports on the router and it should work, unless yer using proxy or behind a FW
[10:51] <comosicus> well i find in my com that i have something named "sound recorder" but when i record something the sound is very bad...with an echo...can i do something to improved the sound?
[10:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm... My KNetworkManager icon has a weird little X over it... But, I have a perfectly stable connection...
[11:00] <ForteenX> hi. I have a folder that i am sharing between users by giving it a group "share". One problem if a user writes to this shared folder other people cant delete that persons files. I want to be able to do this. Any pointers? Thanks
[11:02] <lol> zd1201
[11:04] <comosicus> well i find in my com that i have something named "sound recorder" but when i record something the sound is very bad...with an echo...can i do something to improved the sound?
[11:06] <lol> when i rigth click on deskop can i edit that menu?
[11:09] <confuzed> Can anyone help me figure out how to restart the 7.04 upgrader?  I stopped it because I thought it had frozen (there was a hidden dialog box open) and now it will not restart.
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> lol: afaik, no but that probably just means I don't know how to do it
[11:10] <lol> lol?
[11:11] <confuzed> Ironically, when I stopped it, it told me that my system my be unstable and to restart it... but it won't restart... hmm
[11:12] <lol> afaik???
[11:14] <lol> BUT can i add terminal to that menu?
[11:15] <Neil-> can kopete do msn voice chat?
[11:15] <lol> dont know
[11:16] <Neil-> anyone?
[11:17] <confuzed> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete%20MSN says "Many users ask to know if video or voice chat will be possible soon. Good news: KDE 3.5 will have Webcam support, but will not support audio.
[11:17] <confuzed> "
[11:17] <Neil-> balls
[11:19] <lol> any danish men here?
[11:19] <jhutchins_lt> Is there an option to save settings for the live CD to a USB drive or something?
[11:19] <lol> installet it to usb?
[11:20] <lol> install it to usb?
[11:20] <confuzed> He means like Knoppix does.
[11:20] <lol> ohh
[11:20] <lol> ups i dont know :P
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, like knoppix.
[11:21] <confuzed> Where any changed files are stored to the USB key, allowing you to preserve configuration changes, even install additional packages.
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> Right, or even just user settings, like for konversation and kmail.
[11:21] <confuzed> I would venture to guess not.  that's what knoppix is for ;-)
[11:21] <jhutchins_lt> This laptop has no hard drive.
[11:22] <confuzed> You could, however, install to a USB drive.
[11:23] <Red_Tear> is it hard to upgrade dapper drake point one to edgy?
[11:23] <jhutchins_lt> Isn't there some sort of wireless network monitor applet?
[11:23] <Red_Tear> (to a beginner ;) )
[11:24] <confuzed> Red_Tear: google for a guide... there are a few out there... just google dapper to edgy or something like it.
[11:24] <jhutchins_lt> KSysguard on the CD, but no sensors. Dumb.
[11:25] <ericj2190> can someone help me?
[11:26] <ericj2190> knetworkmanager stpped showing my wireless networks.
[11:26] <ericj2190> *stopped
[11:26] <confuzed> ericj2190: why?
[11:26] <confuzed> ericj2190: I mean... what was the last thing you did before this happened?
[11:26] <HaSH> can someone help me with this please? http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505
[11:27] <ericj2190> i installed the network-manager-pptp package.
[11:27] <HaSH> i realy need to recompile ffmpeg and that wont work.
[11:27] <ericj2190> removing it didn't help
[11:27] <jhutchins_lt> ericj2190: You've tried just restarting it, haven't you?
[11:28] <ericj2190> yep
[11:28] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Why?  Just use the package from the repos.
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> ericj2190: Does lsusb show the card(s)?
[11:29] <HaSH> jhutchins, that has no non free support. i need codecs that arnt built into the default one.
[11:29] <confuzed> eric: you might run aptitude and make sure that all of knetworkmanager's dependancies are installed.  Sometimes installing packages, like network-manager-ppp, can conflict.
[11:29] <HaSH> plsu obviously something is wrong with apt...
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> !plf
[11:29] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[11:29] <HaSH> yea plf sources suck. they do *not* work for me
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> PLF has the full version, although it should be in multiverse.
[11:29] <jhutchins_lt> !info mplayer
[11:29] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[11:30] <jhutchins_lt> Is that the version you have?
[11:30] <HaSH> jhutchins, every tutorial ive read says i need to build ffmpeg myself
[11:30] <pparker> hi, my problem is when i want to quit kde (stop or reboot ) it takes long timee
[11:30] <ericj2190> jhutchins_lt: no, but it isn't a usb card. i can still connect using the terminal though
[11:30] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I can show you tutorials that say you need to rebuild the kernel from scratch.  Doesn't mean you do.
[11:30] <HaSH> yes thats the mplayer ihave
[11:31] <jhutchins_lt> !info ffmpeg
[11:31] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[11:31] <HaSH> jhutchins, ..ok
[11:31] <HaSH> jhutchins, but i still need to compile it.
[11:31] <jhutchins_lt> !build
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:32] <HaSH> it says to. find me a tutorial to encode and add videos to a ipod that doesnt require you to have a ffmpeg that allows using the correct formate
[11:32] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, now we are up to the specific problem, you need iPod video format support.
[11:32] <HaSH> plus i should be able to use apt like that. there is obviously a porblem.
[11:33] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946
[11:34] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Doesn't seem to be an apt problem, I would guess it's something on your setup.
[11:34] <Dell190> Would anyone have the time to help me get GRUB back when my PC starts up
[11:34] <HaSH> jhutchins, that *still* needs a ffmpeg that does these formates.
[11:34] <jhutchins_lt> WHere does it say to get it?
[11:34] <HaSH> jhutchins, u went to source o matic and selected everything but the backports and bazrr packsg
[11:35] <HaSH> jhutchins, the way i am try to .
[11:35] <HaSH> *trying to
[11:35] <confuzed> Dell190: what do you mean... the system still boots, but you don't get the menu?  Or you system doesn't have a bootloader at all?
[11:35] <HaSH> jhutchins, step 1 for ffmpeg from that tutoriasl is : sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg
[11:36] <Dell190> Confuzed: it boots, but it goes straight to windows and bypasses Linux altogether
[11:36] <HaSH> which doesnt work.....this was my 1st post.
[11:36] <jhutchins_lt> Heh. "The .deb Method source has been taken offline recently. Please follow the Source Method below."
[11:37] <HaSH> like i said something is wrong and sourceomatic should be updated
[11:37] <confuzed> Dell190: Ahh... ok... one sec I'll find you a tutorial... though I bet with a little googling you could find one too.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ah, yes, you will need the headers for several things, and the source for what you're actually compilling.  The latter can be obtained from mplayer.hu, but not the headers.
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: No, I don't think it's source-o-matic, or we'd have had a storm of other users with problems.
[11:37] <Dell190> confuzed: i did,and none of the ones on google worked
[11:37] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: What does apt-get update do?
[11:38] <HaSH> jhutchins, this is a fresh install. 1st thing i did was add sources from sourceomaitc then did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. it *IS* somthing wrong with sourceomatic
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:38] <HaSH> not unless sourceomatic discriminated against me
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I didn't ask you that.
[11:38] <confuzed> Dell190: what have you tried
[11:38] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I asked what apt-get update returns?
[11:39] <HaSH> jhutchins, apt-get update updates the sources according to the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <Dell190> confuzed: i tried that on you gave me there, and even the "Super Grub Disk" to no avail
[11:39] <HaSH> jhutchins, alot. want me to pastebin it?
[11:40] <confuzed> are you sure your menu.lst file isn't just loading windows with 0 delay?
[11:40] <HaSH> jhutchins, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/506
[11:40] <confuzed> Dell190: are you sure your menu.lst file isn't just loading windows with 0 delay?
[11:40] <Dell190> confuzed: i dunno, i am new to linux, so i wouldn;t know
[11:42] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ok, you're missing the keys.
[11:42] <HaSH> jhutchins, yea i know. but thats not gonna cause my error
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> Yes it is.
[11:43] <jhutchins_lt> What error?
[11:43] <HaSH> jhutchins, also some of the mirrors sourceomatic gives me are dead...another reason it should be updated
[11:43] <confuzed> Dell190: I doubt that it's the problem then... did you just install windows on an empty partition?
[11:43] <Dell190> i have Windows and Linux on 2 seperate drives
[11:43] <HaSH> jhutchins, ive pasted it 3 times. http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505 this error
[11:43] <tuco> guys I have this folder "install_flash_player_9_linux" in hom. The error message says: error konqueror Access denied to /home/tuco.local/share/Trash/files/install_flash_player_9_linux
[11:44] <Dell190> confuzed: i have Windows and Linux on 2 seperate drives
[11:45] <confuzed> Dell190: Ahh.. ok... how did you install them... windows 1st or second... which drive is linux installed on?
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I'm just a fellow user, I don't follow this channel 24x7.
[11:45] <Dell190> confuzed: Windows then Linux
[11:45] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: Just out of curiosity, did you try that URL I sent you and fail?
[11:46] <confuzed> Dell190: Did Linux ever boot?
[11:46] <lol> what the hell?
[11:46] <confuzed> jhutchins_lt: he said he did
[11:46] <Dell190> confuzed: no i done all the commends and it all worked.. but the bootloader still wont show
[11:46] <Dell190> confuzed: yes it did, until i reinstalled windows
[11:46] <lol> i have a dell inspiron 9150
[11:46] <Dell190> lol: i have the 2200
[11:47] <lol> no diemension i meaned
[11:47] <HaSH> well this is rediculous. there should be one official repo list. not a whole bunch of random ones that dont work.
[11:47] <confuzed> Dell190: Ok...I am betting that your not installing the bootloader to the correct drive when you install grub
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: There is, check the main site.
[11:47] <tuco> can somebody help me delete the file please?
[11:47] <lol> how to get whet pants?
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Do you understand how the repositories work?
[11:47] <confuzed> Dell190: the bootloader needs to install on the primary master disk... or first disk in the system.
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Somebody pays to run the server and put it on line, then they volunteer to carry the ubuntu packages.
[11:48] <Dell190> confuzed: so i need to put it on the Windows Drive??
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> Dell190: Yes.
[11:48] <HaSH> jhutchins, yea im very aware of how they are made.
[11:48] <HaSH> err work
[11:48] <confuzed> Dell190: yes... the system will always look at the same location for a boot loader... always the first drive's MBR
[11:48] <frojnd> is there posible to connecto to a local maschine via krd and not knowing vnc's pass. I only know what's this maschine's pass and username ??
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Looks like you failed to download the source list, so you can't find the file.  I'd try apt-get update again.
[11:49] <Dell190> confuzed: ok i will try it and come back and let ya know how it went
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I thought key handling was automated, but perhaps not, perhaps it needs a manual override
[11:49] <confuzed> Dell190: well theoretically... not really.... just pretend thats true
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Also, the servers have to be maintained, and sometimes you hit them in the middle of maintenance and stuff fails.
[11:49] <HaSH> jhutchins, ive run apt-get update at least 20 times
[11:49] <HaSH> over 2 days
[11:50] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: I would suggest that you remove your sources list, and generate a new one with only the basics, and get that working.
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Because if the main US mirrors had been down for two days this channel would be full of complaints about it.
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Dell190, one more suggestion if i may , DL and burn "SuperGrub" it'll restore the windows MBR ...worked for me
[11:51] <HaSH> jhutchins_lt, ive dont that also :/
[11:51] <BluesKaj> just be sure your boot sequence in the BIOS is set to cdrom
[11:51] <confuzed> BluesKaj: He already tried that... I assume his issue is because he has two drives
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: apt-get --clean
[11:52] <HaSH> jhutchins, ill try that.
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: It could be that kubuntu is not for you.
[11:52] <fairman_> Hi, how can i remove apache2 and mysql server from autostart? The home/user/.kde/autostart is empty ....
[11:52] <tuco> Help guys...I just want to get rid of that annoying folder.
[11:52] <HaSH> it was. ive used ubuntu before. im in no way a compleate noob with *ubuntu
[11:52] <jhutchins_lt> I believe SuSE has the option of paid access to officially maintained repositories.
[11:53] <HaSH> f suse in its dirty behind
[11:53] <HaSH> E: Command line option --clean is not understood
[11:53] <confuzed> jhutchins_lt: take it easy... I've had weird problems with repositories before
[11:53] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: It has the feature you asked for
[11:53] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: Ok, apt-get clean or whatever then.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> well, his windows drive or his linux drive neds a bootloader , one way or another
[11:53] <HaSH> yea to bad you recomend a sell out distro
[11:53] <Dell190> confuzed: OMG THANKYOU SOO MUCH !!!!
[11:54] <confuzed> HaSH: I missed most of what your discussion was about, but I know once I couldnt' connect to the ubuntu repo's with FTP... switched to HTTP and I was good to go,.
[11:54] <confuzed> Dell190: no problem
[11:55] <confuzed> HaSH: Never did figure out the cause, as FTP worked for everything else.
[11:55] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:56] <HaSH> ok this is rediculous. i did the apt-get clean and then did apt-get update ...and it still wont let me attampt to build ffmpeg
[11:56] <HaSH> jhutchins, im well aware how to use apt-get
[11:56] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: You don't know how to use clean.
[11:56] <jhutchins_lt> I'm done.
[11:57] <jhutchins_lt> HaSH: You know all about everything, you've already done everything, you're just here to trash talk.
[11:57] <HaSH> jhutchins, well like i has stated before ive used ubuntu before and am aware how to use apt-get
[11:57] <HaSH> jhutchins, and your here to ask me the same thing 2+ times?.
[11:58] <HaSH> all im trying to do is get help the 1st thing i hadent tried was the clean option.
[11:58] <confuzed> HaSH: don't mind him... he has no patience
[11:58] <HaSH> guess not.
[11:59] <confuzed> HaSH: I completely lost track of what was going on... what's the problem.
[11:59] <HaSH> confuzed, in short i need to encode video for my ipod. every guide i read says i need to make my own ffmpeg with support that the default one doesnt have.
[12:00] <confuzed> and what's stopping you
[12:00] <HaSH> confuzed, but i get this error : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/505
[12:00] <HaSH> confuzed, i used sourceomatic to add sources and well..they all work.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> HaSH, http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
[12:01] <confuzed> HaSH, your not having trouble with any other packages or sources?
[12:01] <spark_> kubuntu-de
[12:01] <BluesKaj> copy and paste those repos and you can apt-get install ffmpeg
[12:01] <HaSH> confuzed, not that ive found yet.
[12:01] <HaSH> BluesKaj, they are for edgy?.
[12:02] <HaSH> BluesKaj, and use ALL of them?
[12:02] <confuzed> BluesKaj: he needs to build it with AAC and h.234 support
[12:02] <TheDebugger> Personally, i use medibuntu repos
[12:02] <HaSH> TheDebugger, ive never been fond of thouse automatic installers.
[12:03] <HaSH> ive heard of many issues with some of them..
[12:03] <HaSH> TheDebugger, wait its a reposiroty
[12:03] <TheDebugger> HaSH: It's a repository... not a software
[12:03] <confuzed> I mean h.264
[12:03] <HaSH> ohh
[12:03] <BluesKaj> try them and find out ...won't do any harm
[12:03] <TheDebugger> HaSH: It has w32codecs dvdcss2 etc..
[12:04] <HaSH> TheDebugger, ive installed most of that stuff from other repos(ones that sourceomatic provieds)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> they'll either work or not...I used the restricted ones myself but...
[12:04] <HaSH> BluesKaj, using repos for different distros wont hurt this?.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> no
[12:04] <reldruh> hello. I have kind of a weird problem I was hoping somebody could help me solve. I have two copies of my music collection, one on my laptop and one on my server. My amarok collection is straight from my laptop but I'd like to keep both of them up to date. Is there a simple way to setup keeping them in sync?
[12:04] <meo> why is is that I can't find vlc or audacity or azureus for linux anywhere?
[12:04] <KrAmMeR> can anyone help me sound issue?
[12:04] <KrAmMeR> issues*
[12:04] <BluesKaj> they just may not work ,...kubuntu is debian based after all
[12:04] <confuzed> reldruh: rsync
[12:05] <meo> oh, I didn't know that
[12:05] <HaSH> TheDebugger, turns out i already have that repo.
[12:05] <meo> would they work in ubuntu
[12:05] <reldruh> confuzed: that looks perfect. Thank you very much
[12:06] <confuzed> meo: he wasn't talking to you
[12:06] <meo> oh :P
[12:06] <BluesKaj> sorry , didn't mean to cause confusion ...I'll use nicks from now on
[12:06] <confuzed> meo: ubuntu has a vlc package
[12:07] <confuzed> meo: it's in the universe repository
[12:07] <meo> ok, but is there any way to get it on kubuntu?
[12:07] <lol> fuck
[12:08] <BluesKaj> HaSH, can you paste your  /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin ...we need to look at what's wrong with it
[12:08] <lol> how to change the ubuntu from the dsoc of there?
[12:08] <confuzed> meo: yep... enable the universe repository, and install it like any other package... audacity is there as well
[12:09] <HaSH> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/506
[12:09] <confuzed> meo: azuraus is available on the plf (penguin liberation front) repositories.
[12:09] <HaSH> i removed a few of the sources and now it seems to work i think its Seveas' Ubuntu Packages that is messed up
[12:10] <HaSH> i didnt use that one this time and now it seems to have worked
[12:10] <lol> i downloaded a kickoff deb file and after install how to get it on?
[12:10] <HaSH> (this one thing at least)
[12:10] <lol> hallo?
[12:11] <confuzed> meo: are you following me?
[12:11] <meo> uh, ya kinda
[12:11] <meo> Where do i get hte universe repository
[12:12] <confuzed> meo: you enable repositories in adept... adept -> manage repositories... it will open your /etc/sources.list file... where you can uncomment out the universe and multiverse repositories
[12:13] <lol> how to suck dick on a lolita if it onle have a pussy?
[12:13] <confuzed> You can add additional repositories, like the plf, by adding them to this list
[12:13] <HaSH> well crap. this just isnt working i now get this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/507


[16:10] <Unit193> Seems I've been talking to the wrong one all this time...
[18:47] <mr_pouit> micahg: thanks for the ristretto sync (you're too fast :p). I've synced xfce4-netload-plugin that entered testing at the same time.
[18:48] <micahg> ok, was going to do that later, would you prefer me to leave those for you?
[18:49] <mr_pouit> no no, that's fine
[18:52] <knome> micahg, mr_pouit prefers if you handle it all, always
[18:53] <micahg> heh, well, xubuntu new stuff I know we want, I sync right away, ubuntu studio stuff I sync with the same rules as the rest of universe in that if there's something beneficial, I sync it
[18:55] <mr_pouit> I only check when I receive the "$prog $version MIGRATED to testing" mails, so if you've already synced the packages, I won't complain ;-)
[18:56] <micahg> well, I get those which is why I sync'd ristretto, but I also check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+localpackagediffs?field.name_filter=&field.package_type=non-ignored&field.package_type-empty-marker=1&field.packageset=105&field.packageset=98&field.packageset=100 with the xubuntu, mozilla, and ubuntustudio packagesets enabled
[23:11] <GridCube> ochosi, look :D http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/get-better-looking-qt-applications-in.html
[23:12] <ochosi> GridCube: already commented there
[23:13] <GridCube> oh
[23:13] <GridCube> :P
[23:13] <ochosi> and mr_pouit promised to include the workaround/fix in xubuntu-default-settings
[23:13] <GridCube> :D thats pretty awesome
[23:13] <GridCube> i ten
[23:13] <GridCube> d
[23:13] <GridCube> to leave qt applications out when choosing because of their looks
[23:14] <ochosi> actually this has never been a problem since (i guess) 10.04
[23:14] <ochosi> in fact this behavior is a regression
[23:14] <ochosi> no clue whether it's qt or ubuntu
[23:15] <micahg> hmm, that's using gconf, I wonder if we're using gconf or gsettings in 12.04 (Ubuntu is using gsettings)
[23:15] <ochosi> whatever works is fine for me
[23:15] <ochosi> i basically run a script for qt apps that adds the gtk-theme to an environment variable
[23:16] <ochosi> (export GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 and that file only contains the info that the theme to use is greybird)
[23:16] <ochosi> even the qt4-qtconfig tool fails miserably in oneiric
[23:25] <pleia2> knome: finally updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website to reflect our current "To Do" based on the latest revision
[23:41] <mr_pouit> micahg: yep, I'm not sure why, it seems to work with vlc, even on precise. I guess something in qt somewhere checks gconf and not gsettings


[02:54] <Randy_O> Hello, I've got a click package that is failing to be published, but the error is unclear, it starts with: found binaries for architecture 'all': share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES and ends with lint_control_architecture_valid_contents. Any ideas?
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[09:13] <davmor2> popey: hey dude calendar app is there any way to stop it ringing, I unchecked my work calendar and hit the sync but which made all the appointments go away in calendar but the alerts for them still went off :(
[09:13] <davmor2> I assume this is a known bug
[09:34] <popey> davmor2, i think this goes away once we move to the other indicator
[09:35] <davmor2> popey: nice
[14:21] <popey> dbarth, heya happy new year - looking at your merge for calendar.. https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/ubuntu-calendar-app/push-helper/+merge/280697
[14:21] <popey> dbarth, what are you expecting the outcome of that merge to be if I install that on my device?
[14:30] <dbarth> popey: hey Alan, happy new year too!
[14:30] <dbarth> popey: it should enable or suppress /all/ calendar notifications
[14:31] <dbarth> popey: not just events, but also alarms if you take the corresponding indicator-datetime patch
[14:31] <dbarth> i had a silo i think
[14:32] <dbarth> popey: well, blocked, but here you can find the other branch: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/790
[14:32] <dbarth> popey: my i-datetime patch is a bit crude
[14:32] <dbarth> popey: strictly to your question though, the single calendar-app branch should have it just appear in system settings > notifications
[14:33] <dbarth> the toggle won't have any effect though; that's what the 2nd branch is about
[14:43] <popey> dbarth, excellent, thanks
[15:11] <popey> dholbach, https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SzymonWaliczek/posts/P9Pupxb3hEv seen this?
[15:11] <popey> I keep seeing apps in the store with mo files attached
[15:11] <popey> and they get flagged as binary files
[15:15] <dholbach> popey: no, I haven't seen it
[15:15] <beuno> right
[15:16] <beuno> I just asked jdstrand_ about it
[15:16] <beuno> I guess .mo's are technically binaries
[15:17] <popey> people re-submit their app as armhf or whatever to pass the tests, which seems flawed for qml based apps
[15:17] <beuno> indeed
[15:21] <dholbach> so the problem (I think is in _list_all_compiled_binaries()), python-magic seems to return 'application/octet-stream; charset=binary' for all .mo files
[15:21] <dholbach> is there a bug open for it?
[15:22] <dholbach> nm, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1530894
[15:22] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1530894 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools ".mo files don't seem to be allowed in packages of arch 'all'" [Undecided,New]
[15:45] <popey> thanks dholbach!
[15:45] <popey> left a comment on the G+ thread
[15:45] <dholbach> cool
[17:22] <balloons> happy new year ahayzen. Would you mind merging my MP's for the manual tests from last year?
[17:22] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-weather-app/manual-tests/+merge/280775 https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/music-app/manual-tests/+merge/280777
[17:22] <ahayzen> balloons, sure no problem :-)
[17:22] <balloons> Provided, of course, you are happy with them
[17:22] <ahayzen> hehe :-)
[17:27] <balloons> DanChapman, btw, I just found your mail on the dekko manual tests. My filtering is busted I see, I was wondering why I still hadn't heard back, lol
[17:32] <DanChapman> balloons, heh, no worries! :-) I assumed you was leaving it until after your xmas break anyway
[18:02] <ahayzen> balloons, so for the music one we are just leaving it as links to the images ?
[18:03] <balloons> ahayzen, my thought was to merge things as-is in Pilot so things were in sync. Fixing the images so they embed can come next
[18:03] <balloons> I won't be attempting it though :p
[18:03] <ahayzen> balloons, coolio, if anything changes in checkbox to allow that let me know :-)
[18:04] <balloons> ahayzen, it should be possible, I think we linked to the documentation. But I'm not sure images make sense anyway
[18:04] <ahayzen> yeah, as the design morphs anyway
[18:04] <ahayzen> maybe better expected result descriptions :-)
[18:06] <ahayzen> balloons, i'll check Victor is cool to land the music one as he hadn't approved that
[18:37] <balloons> ahayzen, thanks.
[18:37] <balloons> ahayzen, also, while I have you, can you create some more autopilot tasks for needed tests? Some of the students have been asking for them
[18:38] <ahayzen> balloons, hehe, ok I'm sure we can come up with some more tests :-) speaking of that we need to finish the test_empty_library one
[18:38] <balloons> ahayzen, do we?
[18:38] <ahayzen> think Victor wanted to test that it was working on all devices but then we all went on break
[18:38] <balloons> ahayzen, I thought it was all fixed and merged?
[18:38] <ahayzen> fixed, not tested by us :-)
[18:39] <balloons> ohh, feel free to link. Trying to catch up on these type of loose ends today
[18:40] <ahayzen> balloons, this is the MP https://code.launchpad.net/~fazerlicourice/music-app/test-empty-library/+merge/280794
[18:41] <ahayzen> balloons, i can try it a bit later, but my phone is in bgplaylist testing mode at the moment :-)
[18:42] <balloons> ahayzen, ahh fazer was one of those asking for more
[18:42] <ahayzen> :-)
[18:43] <ahayzen> balloons, the music-app autopilot test code needs sorting as well, its all in one test_music.py whereas weather is now nicely split by page
[18:43] <balloons> right. That's a choice, which at some point, becomes needed. Once one file is SO big, it gets a bit nuts
[18:44] <ahayzen> yup :-) and then the classes make a bit more sense as you can do more in the setUp() etc
[18:45] <balloons> exactly
[19:00] <ahayzen> balloons, FYI your manual test things have landed :-)
[19:01] <balloons> excellent
[19:01]  * balloons closes out task
[19:01] <ahayzen> :-)
[20:24] <mhall119> ogra_: ping
[20:43] <ogra_> mhall119, yes ?
[20:48] <mhall119> ogra_: hey, I heard a rumor that you had an IRC bouncer snap
[20:48] <ogra_> i have a bip snap, yes
[20:49] <mhall119> can I get a copy of that?
[20:49] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/ircproxy
[20:49] <ogra_> just branch it and run snapcraft in the toplevel dir
[20:49] <ogra_> once installed you can use "snappy config" to configure it
[20:50] <mhall119> thanks
[20:50] <mhall119> does it use ZNC?
[20:50] <ogra_> i'm still fiddling on the arm64 version, once thats there i'll push all arches to the store
[20:50] <ogra_> bip
[20:51] <mhall119> ah, does bip support multiple networks?
[20:51]  * ogra_ plans to land that stuff (and a bunch of other snaps like a package proxy) befoe end of his holidays :)
[20:51] <mhall119> you're still on holiday?
[20:52] <ogra_> til 16th ... i had to burn a lot of vacation days (all)
[20:52] <ogra_> so i bruned the leftover ones and try to additionally kill some off for this year already :)
[20:53] <ogra_> the package should support multiple networks (untested though)
[20:54] <mhall119> having to burn excess vacation days is about as #firstworldproblems as it gets :)
[20:54] <ogra_> heh
[20:54] <ogra_> well, i always only remember that there is that holiday thing around begin of december :)
[20:55] <ogra_> *beginning
[21:21] <ahayzen> balloons, i tried the empty_library one via adt and the empty test fails due to there being songs found
[21:22] <balloons> ahayzen, it doesn't remove them?
[21:23] <ahayzen> balloons, not sure, i can upload the subunit file if that is useful ?
[21:24] <balloons> a pasted log is fine if you've got it
[21:27] <ahayzen> balloons, i'm not sure which bit is which, as it joins the app log together as usual lol but here is the subunit https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XynHVKfrvMUnFqN3BJemlEeUk/view?usp=sharing
[21:30] <balloons> looking
[21:31] <balloons> ahayzen, it's missing the full output
[21:31] <balloons> did you run with -v?
[21:32] <ahayzen> ah
[21:32] <ahayzen> maybe not
[21:32] <balloons> anyways you are correct, it's not removing the files
[21:32] <ahayzen> balloons, also outside of autopilot those test files are 'seen'
[21:33] <ahayzen> so yeah its not deleting them by the looks of it...i'll run that one test on its own
[21:33] <balloons> you'd have to peer into the code. It must be a simple fix honestly
[21:33] <balloons> copy the files for all tests, except that one. And for that one, clear any files in there
[21:36] <balloons> a full log will tell us what is happening
[21:37] <ahayzen> balloons, the -v like this right? ADT_AUTOPILOT_MODULE="-v music_app.tests.test_music.TestEmptyLibrary.test_display_message_when_no_music"
[21:37] <ahayzen> or in the adt-run part?
[21:37] <balloons> yep, looks good
[21:37] <ahayzen> okies, that's running :-)
[21:38] <balloons> pitti might know of something better by now if the syntax has improved
[21:38] <ahayzen> hah, i end up with commands like $ ADT_AUTOPILOT_MODULE="-v music_app.tests.test_music.TestEmptyLibrary.test_display_message_when_no_music" adt-run -o /tmp/music-app/empty-3 . com.ubuntu.music_2.3.986_all.click --- ssh -s adb -- -p <passcode>
[21:39] <ahayzen> balloons, test log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14404536/ \o/
[21:39] <ahayzen> "21:38:15.571 DEBUG __init__:174 - Music deleted, files ['1.ogg', '2.ogg', '3.mp3']"
[21:40] <balloons> indeed.. But the files are still there?
[21:41] <ahayzen> mediascanner thinks so
[21:41] <ahayzen> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls Music/
[21:41] <ahayzen> 1.ogg  2.ogg  3.mp3
[21:41] <ahayzen> yup
[21:42] <ahayzen> balloons, in the except OSError: it has a pass ... i wonder if we are silently failing ?
[21:42] <balloons> add some logging for every possible scenario in there and see
[21:42] <ahayzen> balloons, and when running under AP do you inherit the apparmor permissions of the app ?
[21:43] <balloons> well AP has an apparmor exception, but otherwise yes
[21:43] <ahayzen> ok, well there would be something in syslog then as well i guess, i thought maybe we don't have permission to delete
[21:47] <ahayzen> balloons, "FileNotFoundError" :-)
[21:48] <ahayzen> balloons, so the path to remove must be wrong
[21:52] <ahayzen> balloons, its trying to remove this path ... /tmp/adt-run.XH20gO/tree/tests/autopilot/music_app/content/blank-mediascanner-2.0/songs/1.ogg
[21:58] <ahayzen> balloons, got the test to pass \o/
[21:59] <balloons> excellent
[21:59] <balloons> thanks ahayzen!
[21:59] <ahayzen> commenting on the MP :-)
[23:12] <ahayzen> zsombi, t1mp, I was trying to move the music-app to use the GridView, but have noticed that the header judders when you scroll (only on the desktop) if it is inside Tabs/PageStack are you able to confirm bug 1531016 ?
[23:12] <ubot5`> bug 1531016 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "GridView that is inside tabs or pagestack on desktop judders when the header scrolls in/out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1531016