[00:00] <nh2> acicula: on Karmic and Arch linux, on any kernel, tried .28-.34-rc1 and iwlwifi git :-(
[00:00] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: It may be a bug in 9.10 I would recomend trying 9.04 cause it has nearly 300 updates available and may work just fine for you.
[00:00] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, No, 9.10 works flawless with this card. Definitely not a bug
[00:00] <den_> crontab for every 30 min to run is */30 * * * *
[00:00] <den_> ??
[00:00] <nh2> Nollog: If you suffer from the bug I posted, changing any distribution will not help, changing to any kernel will not help
[00:00] <LinuxGuy2009> gloom: Sure on your box it does.
[00:00] <iceroot> den_: yes
[00:00] <nh2> Nollog: "dmesg" in a terminal
[00:00] <acicula> nh2: well it works here on latest jaunty stock kernels
[00:01] <den_> ty
[00:01] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: Sorry to poke you like that...But could you help? I'm running from LiveCD and would like to remove the linux-swap partition to recreate it at a second time. Can I do that without affecting my existing linux installation"
[00:01] <Nollog> gloom: dmesg is all "wlan0: direct probe to AP 00:etc. try1,2,3 timed out
[00:01] <Nollog> "
[00:01] <nh2> acicula: yeah, I don't claim the card is broken by default
[00:01] <guest> so what is the most embarrasing thing of your life
[00:01] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: Why would you do that?
[00:01] <nh2> acicula: it worked fine for me in jaunty and in karmic until january
[00:01] <guest> lol
[00:01] <nh2> acicula: from then on, it got worse and worse, now I cannot connect anymore
[00:01] <guest> good
[00:02] <Nollog> Says that a few times.
[00:02] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, Not that I want to start a flame, but this card has kernel support and it should work fine.
[00:02] <Nollog> ends with link is not ready?
[00:02] <nh2> Nollog: yep, this is just like my problem
[00:02] <gloom> Nollog, iwconfig wla0 shows Mode Managed??
[00:02] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: Because I have two partitions (one where my linux runs, one unallocated) and I'd like to extend my linux partition to use the unallocated space (through GParted). But in the middle there is the linux-swap partition
[00:02] <ubuntu_giant> Hi, I'm trying to compile my kernel (okay, install the compiled kernel).  This is the output that I get (command included):
[00:02] <LinuxGuy2009> gloom: Well for this other person its not. Im just saying.
[00:02] <ubuntu_giant> http://pastebin.com/A6k0SQsG
[00:02] <ubuntu_giant> I'm compiling it per instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile.
[00:02] <guest> hey
[00:02] <ubuntu_giant> Any ideas?
[00:02] <FloodBot2> ubuntu_giant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <nh2> Nollog: see also the upstream Intel bug: http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2171
[00:02] <guest> yes
[00:02] <guest> gfdfwgyf ifdkefwytifcyire4f i
[00:02] <Nollog> yes it does.
[00:02] <guest> gfry4wihfgcduheqgfcgey3wyqvfrsbbjhvfghudafdgheskahgvlcdskvguhklde
[00:02] <guest> gefhgayufgyuvedgyagfuye
[00:02] <guest> vfdaigyufdigauygfe
[00:02] <FloodBot2> guest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <Nollog> yes it does. @ gloom
[00:03] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: You could use the live CD and use gparted to do the partition changes and then edit the fstab file with the changed UUIDs.
[00:03] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: check the dkms build log
[00:03] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: I'm in LiveCD now :-)
[00:03] <acicula> nh2: not sure why it wouldnt work
[00:03] <gloom> Nollog, is there any other wifi around besides yours? I mean, is yours the only wifi that you detect there?
[00:03] <ubuntu_giant> acicula: Where would that be?
[00:03] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: ok
[00:03] <Nollog> gloom: I've tried two of my routers.
[00:03] <Nollog> one is a motorola with dd-wrt on it and only supports g.
[00:04] <gloom> Nollog, with the same WPA2 config?
[00:04] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: So I was thinking, I'm going to remove the linux-swap partition, extend the linux partition, and then re-create the linux-swap. Can I do that?
[00:04] <Nollog> I tried that one, and the other with no encryption and with wep
[00:04] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: Yes
[00:04] <nh2> acicula: yeah, this is why expected that it was due to temperature since it did not work in the uni when the air was hot and worked when we went out into the snow, but now i'm at home and it does not work at all
[00:04] <Nollog> Well, i didn't try the other one with wep.
[00:04] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: Dont lower the swap size lower than the installed physical ram.
[00:04] <gloom> Nollog, and even encryption-less didn't work?
[00:04] <Nollog> Nope.
[00:05] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: I was thinking of setting it up as double the size of my RAM
[00:05] <acicula> nh2: well ive experienced that too , signals can vary quite a bit, but it should resolve itself if you get closer to the router
[00:05] <Nollog> Just showed the network manager making a circle in the top bar thing.
[00:05] <nh2> acicula: further, it cannot be a change in firmware code as the latest fw is from 09/2009, which worked fine for months
[00:05] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: You can. Thats a little big but will do just fine.
[00:05] <ubuntu_giant> acicula: Where would the log file be located?
[00:05] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: dunno, but a google on the dkms build system will probably tell you
[00:05] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: You also said that I should edit /etc/fstab? Just by adding the newly-created linux-swap partition?
[00:06] <nh2> acicula: I hope that something in the firmware sets the card into some crazy state which can hopefully fixed one time with a new firmware or whatever
[00:06] <acicula> nh2: dunno if firmware has anything to do with it
[00:06] <fofos> hello guys i am newbie and i am trying to send and receive files from my mobile i am using gnome ubuntu 9.10 and toshiba laptop can someone help me pls ?  isearch all over the net and google too i can get it fixed can someone help me pls?
[00:07] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: If you change existing partition layout then Im pretty sure the UUID will change for the swap partition and maybe any that you resize but Im not sure how exactly what the criteria are for that.
[00:07] <nh2> acicula: neither me, I'm just guessing
[00:07] <nh2> acicula: we also hoped that http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-2.6.git;a=commit;h=3aaa713952a6e15d411217a3b120dcc1491b3b24 would fix it
[00:07] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: But you want to double check. If any of the partitions mentioned in fstab are wrong such as the root partition then you wont be booting on restart.
[00:08] <nh2> but that commit is already in the kernel I'm running
[00:08] <Zenker> hello everyone i just wanted to tell the solution to my issue earlier with the icons, i couldnt change to any other icon then the default set w the theme. it turn out that all i have 2 do is drag and drop the icon onto the icon pic in the properties :)))
[00:08] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: Now I have my linux partition and some unallocated space, but GParted will not allow me to extend the linux partition using the unallocated space. Is there anything I should do first?
[00:08] <Nollog> Anywhere on the site to download an older version of ubuntu to try it?
[00:09] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: The empty space need to be directly to the right of whateer partition you want to extend.
[00:09] <Semitones> what kind of packages are in -backports?
[00:09] <alzamabar> LinuxGuy2009: Geez, it's on the left, what can I do now?
[00:09] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar:Move partitions to the left.
[00:09] <Zenker> trism, NoOutlet, dlynes thank you very much,  it always seems that when i just start poking around i find the answer on accident
[00:10] <nh2> alzamabar: on the left usually means: do it over night
[00:10] <LinuxGuy2009> alzamabar: Make sure you know how to edit the fstab or your gonna screw your install.
[00:10] <gandhijee> acicula: thanks, for the man page, got it fixed and working now
[00:10] <fofos> hello guys i am newbie and i am trying to send and receive files from my mobile i am using gnome ubuntu 9.10 and toshiba laptop can someone help me pls ?  isearch all over the net and google too i can get it fixed can someone help me pls?
[00:10] <Nollog> nvm, found it
[00:10] <acicula> gandhijee: awesome
[00:10] <ubuntu_giant> I wasn't using DKMS to install the kernel.
[00:11] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: Send them how?
[00:11] <nh2> well dammit
[00:11] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: read the log
[00:11] <Nollog> gloom: Anything particular about your setup?
[00:11] <fofos> linuxguy2009 bluetooth
[00:11] <nh2> I thought I was in the django channel
[00:11] <nh2> and was already wondering why so many people asked ubuntu questions
[00:11] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: Did you sync them?
[00:11] <rlopez12> I'm looking for a photo manager to replace F-Spot, any good alternatives?
[00:11] <ubuntu_giant> Sorry if I sound like an idiot, but I don't see how I can read the log if I didn't use DKMS.
[00:11] <coz_> rlopez12,  mm  I have tested a few   albumshaper is one  not great but different
[00:12] <coz_> rlopez12,  let me look hold on
[00:12] <fofos> linuxguy2009 it doest finding any device bluetooth is opened in both pc and phone
[00:12] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: read the log you pasted, you compiled and it makes a deb, part of installing the deb is installinng and compiling the vbox module which is done by kdms
[00:12] <cheako> Hello, I'm attempting to lessen the disruption caused by `lvm vgscan`.  This is called by udev on Ubuntu and it's causing seeking on my Optical Drives
[00:12] <LinuxGuy2009>  fofos: Are you positive that your PC has bluetooth?
[00:12] <coz_> rlopez12,  http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58887 << there's one site
[00:12] <gloom> Nollog, nope. Nothin tweaked. I'm reading a forum post that suggest that the problem might be with incorrect values in the rfkill.
[00:12] <dcider> rlopez12, i'm using digikam, not too bad a program
[00:12] <fofos> linuxguy2009 lol yeh i was using it last night on winxp
[00:13] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: this is what fails, as per the error message, qed you ave to look in the dkms build log of that module
[00:13] <gloom> Nollog, it doesn't make much sense to me, but you could just take a look: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8879416
[00:13] <LinuxGuy2009>  fofos: ok. Have you googled this first before coming here and asking?
[00:13] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: what are you trying to achieve with compiling a kernel btw?
[00:13] <Zenker> paint shop pro works very well and has many photo editing tools that will do a lot of stuff automatically
[00:13] <ubuntu_giant> Getting better HW support out of my laptopp
[00:14] <fofos> linuxguy2009 as i said yes i did... i downloaded every possible think ..
[00:14] <gloom> Nollog, basically, cd /sys/class/rfkill   , locate the rfkill corresponding to your wikicard, for example rfkill0, then cd rfkill0 and the cat state. Should say "1"
[00:14] <gloom> Nollog, sorry wificard:D
[00:14] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: like what
[00:14] <LinuxGuy2009>  fofos: Running 9.10? Did you use bluetooth in 9.04?
[00:14] <rlopez12> coz_: i'm an amatuer photographer looking to go pro (someday). FSpot just doesnt have the functionality
[00:14] <coz_> rlopez12,  there is also an application names   coppermine
[00:15] <acicula> rlopez12: gimp can do manipulating?
[00:15] <ubuntu_giant> Wireless, graphics stuff (for example, OpenGL screensavers don't show me the password prompt."
[00:15] <Nollog> lol, well I only have rfkill0
[00:15] <coz_> rlopez12,  yeah you might have to go to sourceforge.net  I think and in search put  photo managers
[00:15] <fofos> linuxguy2009 i was using yes 4 months ago when i was having 9.04 but i cant remember what i done to solve the problem
[00:15] <rlopez12> acicula: i use the GIMP regularly, but i need organization
[00:15] <acicula> ubuntu_giant: not sure if rebuilding the kernel will fix that for you but ok
[00:15] <coz_> rlopez12,  copper mine is ok  there are a few others including a java based one  I am trying to find the links now
[00:15] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: It could very well be a regression.
[00:16] <ubuntu_giant> Well, thanks.
[00:16] <Nollog> ststa says 1
[00:16] <Nollog> And only 1
[00:16] <fofos> linuxguy2009 whats that means
[00:16] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: Could be a newly introduced bug with the new 9.10.
[00:16] <gloom> Nollog, works fine then.
[00:16] <djtoast> Hi,  anyone could help me troubleshoot my serial port.  its detected however doesnt seem to work well.
[00:17] <fofos> linuxguy2009 nono i rmember having the same problem in 9.04 and someone here helped me to solve it
[00:17] <alzamabar> nh2: Now I know what you mean :-)
[00:17] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: I see.
[00:17] <Nollog> :-\
[00:17] <hellz_bellz> :/
[00:17] <zakaria> hi
[00:18] <djtoast> how could one test a serial port.
[00:18] <hellz_bellz> ubuntu is dead
[00:18] <acicula> djtoast: heu attach a serial device?
[00:18] <hellz_bellz> any busy channels?
[00:18] <djtoast> acicula: tried cisco, 1900 , 3500, pix515e.. none working
[00:19] <LinuxGuy2009> fofos: Read this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Bluetooth_Transferring_and_receiving_files_under_Ubuntu
[00:19] <djtoast> acicula: working on windows thaugh :(
[00:19] <nh2> djtoast: a friend told me a crazy trick that one can write to serials via screen
[00:19] <nh2> perhaps you can google that
[00:19] <gloom> Nollog, well, it seems that there was some months ago a bug with N networks and this card. My network is not N, so I really can't tell... Have you tried setting up the router in B mode?
[00:19] <dcmeese> how do I add servers on xchat ubuntu?
[00:20] <Nollog> I'll try, ugh... b
[00:20] <djtoast> I checked in dmeg and its detected ok..
[00:20] <brando753> guys im quite stumped here.... I have a parallel to usb converter which Works Fine in windows, Works Fine in Ubuntu 9.4 but Isnt even found in lsusb on Ubuntu 9.10 .... Any help please
[00:20] <djtoast> but both minicom and putty fail to open the port..  im realy stumpped..
[00:21] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: Does the parallel to USB do some kind of printer emulation?
[00:22] <Nollog> iwlist can etc. shows stuff when I scan with the nm applet widget whatever...
[00:22] <ginbuntu> I can't find a deb package for the gtk engine rezlooks :(
[00:22] <brando753> LinuxGuy2009: not quite sure it dosent show up in lsusb
[00:22] <gloom> Nollog, so it is scanning fine?
[00:22] <Nollog> Seems to be, but when it's told to scan it drops it.
[00:22] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: That might mean thats its not supported by the kernel anymore. Im not sure if they drop hardware support or not after so long.
[00:22] <Nollog> Not connecting in B only mode either.
[00:23] <brando753> LinuxGuy2009: what am i able to do then I really need this to work
[00:23] <wubba> Ok gurus.  I have an issue.  I have an Nvidia graphics card.  On the initial install the system runs excellent.  Then I install the nvidia drivers and the system comes to a halt. Everything is slow as can be.  At a loss of what to do.
[00:23] <gloom> Nollog, man i ran out of ideas... what's your laptop model?
[00:24] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: It may just be a 9.10 bug. You can try 9.04 or 8.04 LTS or just wait for 10.04 LTS at the end of April and it may be fixed.
[00:24] <Nollog> hey, if I click "enable network" in the widget thingy in the top bar, iwlist will show a scan.
[00:24] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: Does the adapter require external power?
[00:24] <Nollog> gloom: acer revo 3600, it's a nettop.
[00:24] <brando753> LinuxGuy2009: nope
[00:24] <gloom> Nollog, WAS IT DISABLED????!?!?!??!
[00:24] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: Printer turned on and cable checked and connected on both ends?
[00:24] <Nollog> gloom: no.
[00:24] <Nollog> It was enabled.
[00:24] <gloom> Nollog, hehehe, ok:D
[00:25] <Nollog> I disabled it, then ifconfig up'd it, then scanned
[00:25] <Nollog> Is ther a way to connect via terminal?
[00:25] <alzamabar> wubba, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:25] <gloom> Nollog, I was already running towards the window
[00:25] <Nollog> lol
[00:25] <Pr0jectRec0n> hi all
[00:25] <Nollog> I would too if that turned out to be it. :p
[00:25] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: May also be a good time to buy a Linux supported printer. Brother brand make Linux drivers for every model they make.
[00:25] <Lostinspace_46> Is there any speech to text software for ubuntu that you don't have to be a programmer to install?
[00:26] <brando753> LinuxGuy2009: no this is for a thermal label printer, its supported but i dont have a parallel port ...
[00:26] <archman> hello
[00:26] <Pr0jectRec0n> hey
[00:26] <Karl> hello
[00:26] <LinuxGuy2009> brando753: Yes because I think not much hardware uses parallel interface anymore.
[00:26] <paddy_melon> !upgrade
[00:26] <paddymelon|bot> paddy_melon: Error: "upgrade" is not a valid command.
[00:27] <paddymelon|bot> Title: Upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 | Ubuntu (at www.ubuntu.com)
[00:27] <wubba> alzamabar, 9.10
[00:27] <archman> i'm using gparted right now, so, i added some new partitions, but they are labeled "New partition #1" and so on; will they be renamed? i need one on /dev/sda3, and sda4
[00:27] <Karl> anyone experience with ehcp?
[00:27] <Dan_E> fotos, if you remember the problem you are having was solved here and you remember when it was look at the log at irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[00:28] <alzamabar> wubba: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307653
[00:28] <djtoast> FYI,, i did this sudo setserial -v /dev/ttyS0 autoconfig uart 16550A
[00:28] <paddymelon|bot> Title: [ubuntu] Ubuntu 9.10 Nvidia drivers and black screen after reboot - Ubuntu Forums (at ubuntuforums.org)
[00:28] <djtoast> and my serial port is now working .. so not sure why its not working on boot.
[00:28] <mnaines> Would Ubuntu have problems running as a wireless gateway?
[00:29] <rlopez12> anyone use Solang photo manager?
[00:29] <acicula> mnaines: no reason why it would
[00:29] <wubba> alzamabar,  I will take a look at that.
[00:29] <acicula> mnaines: unless you are talking about switching Gbit types of traffic
[00:29] <Dan_E> fofos,if you remember the problem you are having was solved here and you remember when it was look at the log at irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[00:30] <mnaines> acicula, can I PM you?
[00:30] <Karl> hello im having a real nightmare with my new vps, ive tried loads of how to from howtoforge but they are old and fail. Anyone know of good instructions to set up webmail on about 10 name based domains?
[00:30] <slacker-> hi
[00:30] <acicula> mnaines: please ask questions in #ubuntu
[00:30] <LinuxGuy2009> rlopez12: I dont see that app in the 9.04 repo. Is it a third party app?
[00:30] <gloom> Nollog, this card does not come with the nettopn, does it?
[00:30] <Lostinspace_46> Is there any speech to text software for ubuntu that you don't have to be a programmer to install?
[00:30] <rlopez12> LinuxGuy2009: must be, available thru Ubuntu Tweak
[00:31] <LinuxGuy2009>  rlopez12: Ubuntu tweak makes it easier to install from 3rd party repos.
[00:31] <rlopez12> LinuxGuy2009: http://www.kabatology.com/06/26/solang-photo-manager-for-gnomeubuntu/
[00:31] <epaphus> hello... is it possible to disable the clipboard in ubuntu??
[00:31] <Ardethian> What's the best music player for unix systems? Using Ubuntu right now.
[00:31] <paddy_melon> LinuxGuy2009, try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:31] <paddymelon|bot> Title: Ubuntu -- Ubuntu Packages Search (at packages.ubuntu.com)
[00:31] <mnaines> acicula, my intent is to set up a micro atx box with Ubuntu to run as a router, gateway, NAT, and stateful firewall.  It will be set up with two 10/100 LAN ports, one as a WAN and the other to a switch, then it will have a wifi card for the upstairs computers
[00:31] <Ardethian> I want something with a nice GUI and as many functions as possible.
[00:31] <slacker-> in an attempt to duplicate my OS drive, I'm dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb. Unfortunately, sdb has a few blocks less than sda. Fortunately, sda doesn't actually have a partition at the end. How easy can that be fixed once dd is finished?
[00:31] <Nollog> gloom: nope.
[00:32] <gloom> Nollog, and you're positive that it works?
[00:32] <slacker-> or, will it need fixing at all?
[00:32] <Nollog> Yea, just two days ago in my notebook.
[00:32] <LinuxGuy2009> rlopez12: I see solang is new in karmic I guess. Whats the questiobn with it?
[00:32] <Nollog> Coming up to 3 days ago now.
[00:32] <Ardethian> ..
[00:33] <acicula> mnaines: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/how-to-setup-a-wireless-ubuntu-router/ , may be a bit dated though, but the general idea is there
[00:33] <paddymelon|bot> Title: How to Setup a Wireless Ubuntu Router | Ubuntu Linux Help (at ubuntulinuxhelp.com)
[00:33] <mnaines> acicula, thanks
[00:33] <rlopez12> LinuxGuy2009: I'm just looking for a replacement for FSpot
[00:33] <gloom> Nollog, the thing that is bugging me, is that this card is so well supported out of the box, that all the problems people complain about are caused by misconfiguration. But it youd work just fine. So you seem to have a rare problem there.
[00:33] <teadict> where are ubuntu's default wallpapers by default?
[00:33] <acicula> paddymelon|bot:
[00:33] <LinuxGuy2009> rlopez12: Ok so just install a bunch and try em.
[00:33] <hmw1> lm-sensors doesn't find anything, lsmod |grep -i thermal doesnt return anything. It's an old Pentium D, should it have temp. sendors?  Anything different from the Probe to AP 00:... timeout?
[00:34] <Pardal> alguem fala portugues aqui???
[00:34] <acicula> hmw1: acpi -V may give you a temp reading?
[00:34] <acicula> !po
[00:34] <paddymelon|bot> acicula: Error: "po" is not a valid command.
[00:34] <acicula> !pa
[00:34] <paddymelon|bot> acicula: Error: "pa" is not a valid command.
[00:34] <epaphus> hello... is it possible to disable the clipboard in ubuntu??
[00:34] <blakkheim> acicula: please turn that bot off
[00:34] <gloom> !pt
[00:34] <paddymelon|bot> gloom: Error: "pt" is not a valid command.
[00:34] <gloom> :D
[00:34] <acicula> blakkheim: its not my bot
[00:35] <hellz_bellz> sensors-lm
[00:35] <acicula> not sure who deciced to run it, but id guess paddymelon ?
[00:35] <Pardal> obrigado...... thankyou
[00:35] <hmw1> acicula: That returns     Cooling 0: Processor 0 of 0 <new line> Cooling 1: Processor 0 of 0
[00:35] <hellz_bellz> hwm1 use sensors-lm
[00:35] <Nollog> gloom: Not sure, ubuntu 9.04 just finished now so I'm going to try if the older version solves my problem.
[00:35] <gloom> Nollog, if it does, tell me. Now is something personal:D
[00:35] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Trying 9.04 to see if your wireless works with that?
[00:36] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: yea
[00:36] <NewWorld> In Terminal, if Ctrl+Z stops a running program and sends it into the background. How do I send a program into the background without pausing it?
[00:36] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Thats what i would recomend.
[00:36] <Pardal> #ubuntu.br
[00:36] <Pardal> how to go to ubuntu br?
[00:36] <NewWorld> Pardal:  type '/join #ubuntu.br'
[00:37] <slacker-> guys? partition help anyone?
[00:37] <NewWorld> don't ask to ask :P
[00:37] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: What are you trying to do?
[00:37] <slacker-> I didn't
[00:37] <hmw1> slacker-: didnt see your initial question... what do you need?
[00:37] <linxeh> slacker-: maybe you could just ask the real question ?
[00:37] <slacker-> in an attempt to duplicate my OS drive, I'm dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb. Unfortunately, sdb has a few blocks less than sda. Fortunately, sda doesn't actually have a partition at the end. How easy can that be fixed once dd is finished?
[00:37] <acicula> hmw1: seems you are out of luck then with sensors
[00:37] <Pardal> nobody in #ubuntu.br..... can you help me?
[00:38] <jamesey> boot in single user mode
[00:38] <jamesey> how do i boot in single user mode
[00:38] <acicula> Pardal: just ask
[00:38] <linxeh> slacker-: then it doesnt matter
[00:38] <Pardal> ok
[00:38] <hmw1> acicula: oh my... the bios is nice enough to remember, that it shut down due to temp problems, and I cant get any temp info... dell!?
[00:38] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: If dd didnt find enough space then the copy will not be 1:1.
[00:38] <linxeh> slacker-: why not just duplicate the partitions ?
[00:38] <acicula> jamesey: select resscue option in grub
[00:38] <linxeh> jamesey: you can always dd a partition into a file on another drive too, if that helps ?
[00:39] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: You coul try to resize the finished partitions. Then use dd to copy a 1:1 of the last partition only.
[00:39] <acicula> hmw1: clean it out p4s are notoir hotheads
[00:39] <slacker-> linxeh: I thought duplicating the whole disk might work :)
[00:39] <Pardal> i can't made enutv encore works on eeebuntu 3.0... can you help me?
[00:39] <slacker-> LinuxGuy2009: there is no partition at the end of the smaller disk
[00:39] <Semitones> jrib, how do you notice something like that?
[00:39] <linxeh> slacker-: I'd create a new partition on the new drive the same size, and then dd just the partition
[00:39] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: So make one and use dd to copy the original to the new partition.
[00:39] <jrib> Semitones: scripts
[00:40] <llcoolhodge> how do u use your ipod with ubuntu
[00:40] <slacker-> linxeh: i need the mbr, too, that's the first 512 bytes of sda, right?
[00:40] <hmw1> acicula: i got that bugger, because it "perhaps has a temp problem" and cleaned it already. It ran stable for a month or so now. It's all so noisy, too. Gotta put it in the fridge, i guess.
[00:40] <paddy_melon> llcoolhodge, see Banshee or Amarock or something similar
[00:40] <Pardal> how to made enutv encore tv device work on ubuntu 9.04??
[00:40] <llcoolhodge> thanks
[00:40] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: BTW if your using dd to make a command backup, its actually best left for an exact 1:1 copy which is really rare to need. Tools like Clonezilla live CD is much more efficient at that.
[00:40] <linxeh> slacker-: yes, you can do that as a separate dd though
[00:41] <LinuxGuy2009> common*
[00:41] <acicula> hmw1: or replace it, save some on the powerbill :P
[00:41] <Pardal> i had instaled tvtime and enutv don't work ther
[00:41] <slacker-> well, i'm trying to move from a single disk to a raid-1 setup without jeopardising my OS, that's why I need the copy
[00:42] <hmw1> acicula: That one is my fastes computer ?-|
[00:42] <Pardal> hello.... anybody see me?
[00:42] <acicula> Pardal: yes
[00:42] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: Unless you need to save the empty space then there is no reason to use dd. Its very inefficent. It doesnt compress the backup at all.
[00:42] <Pardal> acicula.... you see my question?
[00:42] <acicula> Pardal: yes
[00:42] <Pardal> about enutv encore?
[00:42] <acicula> Pardal: yes
[00:43] <Pardal> know you something about?
[00:43] <slacker-> LinuxGuy2009: I know it's inefficient, but it's 1:1 and I don't need compression
[00:43] <acicula> Pardal: no :(
[00:43] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: Also should have made sure the second disk was equal to or larger. ;)
[00:43] <Pardal> know you how can help me?
[00:43] <slacker-> i'm dding onto the raid-1
[00:43] <acicula> slacker-: its a bad idea tbh, why not reinstall the os and copying over data the normal way?
[00:43] <slacker-> LinuxGuy2009: i should have, yes
[00:44] <Pardal> acicula,, know you someone that can help me?
[00:44] <slacker-> acicula: because last time it took me 2 days to get the system back up as it was before and I had other plans
[00:44] <acicula> Pardal: nope, sorry
[00:44] <LinuxGuy2009> slacker-: If you manually fudge with the partitions your probably not gonna get it to work right out of the box.
[00:44] <Pardal> thanks acicula
[00:45] <jimi_> can someone help with this dhcpd error?
[00:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Pardal: Whats your question?
[00:45] <acicula> slacker-: seems a better deal then loosing all the data for which you are using a raid to secure?
[00:45] <jimi_> http://fpaste.org/sOjE/
[00:45] <wubba> alzamabar, Well - I read the instructions - I followed these before to get to the 173 version - and still have the same issue.
[00:45] <Pardal> sorry my bad english.. i am brazilian.. i don't know speak or write in english well... sorry
[00:45] <frankS2> How can i turn off a monitor from the command line?
[00:46] <slacker-> acicula: i'm not losing anything. if the dd thing doesn't work, I can still try again on a bigger raid-1
[00:46] <Nollog> Nope, jaunty does the same.
[00:46] <LinuxGuy2009> frankS2: Use your finger and push the button.
[00:46] <acicula> frankS2: xrandr or vblank something
[00:46] <Pardal> acicula... bye
[00:46] <Pardal> thank you
[00:46] <Typos_King> frankS2:    I use 'xlock'  usually heheh, -> xlock -mode blank;
[00:46] <wubba> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2) - does this mean my card is in busid 5?
[00:47] <slacker-> acicula: I know that I've got other options. The question I was unsure about is, GIVEN the situation I've got, will the new copy need fixing and if so, how do I do it?
[00:47] <gloom> jimi_, Try starting dhcpd3 with this script.  /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start
[00:48] <jimi_> rt
[00:48] <jimi_> ty
[00:48] <frankS2> Typos_King: ah yea xrandr is nice
[00:48] <Nollog> gloom: :( But when you do iwconfig while trying to connect to your network, does wlan0 say encryption key:off ?
[00:50] <gloom> Nollog, paste your full iwconfig output (in pastebin)
[00:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: No difference in 9.04?
[00:51] <gloom> Nollog, as i said, the card is supported in the kernel since 2.6.2x I think, so 9.04 should have the same problem.
[00:51] <Lord_Devi> If I add a repository to my sources.list and then add the appropriate gpg key for it - how do I then view and verify the key's presence?
[00:51] <artypig78> paddy_melon
[00:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Lord_Devi: If the repo fails to load you will know it.
[00:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Lord_Devi: Just look for an app in the new repo and see if its listed.
[00:52] <Lord_Devi> I don't want to verify by the install command. I wish to check other various machines for the presense of they key BEFORE attempting anything network related.
[00:52] <Lord_Devi> LinuxMercedes: That's not reliable though! They key has a name! 3565780E I want to check for that number somewhere..
[00:52] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: I did try 9.04. On it right now and it has the same problem.
[00:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Lord_Devi: You dont have to install anything. Update the package list and if its there then it wont fail.
[00:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Hmm strange
[00:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Didnt someone point out a known issue with your hardware?
[00:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Might affect you also,.
[00:53] <Lord_Devi> LinuxGuy2009 Thanks for the help. This is not what I want though.
[00:53] <Zenker> is there a way to access my files on the windows partition that are under an account that is password protected (in other words the ones that are not in the public folders)?
[00:53] <Nollog> http://pastebin.com/29cjELGU
[00:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Lord_Devi: What do you want?
[00:54] <jamesey> i applied the plymouth update on my imac. now i cant boot because i get the mountall error. I have the livecd in. I try doing fdisk -l but i dont see any partitions.
[00:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  Zenker: If its encrypted then no.
[00:54] <rifter> zenker, yes, root permissions should allow seeing any of the folders
[00:55] <LinuxGuy2009>  Zenker: Might be able to just use nautilus and browse right to it though. or gksudo nautilus as root.
[00:55] <rifter> LinuxGuy2009, oh good point on the encryption
[00:55] <chris__> #ubuntu
[00:55] <trism> Lord_Devi: you just want to list the apt keys? either sudo apt-key list; or the authenication tab of System/Administration/Software Sources will do that
[00:56] <chris__> can anyone help me copy images to my floppys i dont know how
[00:56] <Lord_Devi> trism: Aha! Thanks!! apt-key list is exactly what I wanted =)
[00:56] <chris__> like win 98
[00:56] <Lord_Devi> LinuxGuy2009: I guess apt-key list is what I was looking for.
[00:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Lord_Devi: Would have helped if you would have asked that in the first place. hehe
[00:56] <jamesey> i guess what i need to know is how to install mountall 2.8 via usb disk when i can only boot to live cd
[00:56] <Lord_Devi> LinuxGuy2009 Sorry I wasn't clear, I'm still gratefull for your help though!
[00:57] <Lostinspace_46> Is there any speech to text software for ubuntu that you don't have to be a programmer to install?
[00:57] <Nollog> LinuxGuy2009: You mean http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2171 ?
[00:57] <LinuxGuy2009>  jamesey: Your booting a live CD and need to install an app to use during the live session?
[00:57] <collind> hey everyone, is anyone available to help?
[00:58] <ikonia> for what ?
[00:58] <artypig78> ubottu: hi
[00:58] <Nollog> I don't think it's that because it's not too hot in the box it's in.
[00:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: Not sure I just remeber someone mentioning a bug.
[00:58] <artypig78> yer i agree
[00:58] <Nollog> And it's on the cold side at that.
[00:58] <artypig78> yup
[00:59] <kothz> Sigh.  I've got an unnatural love for the command line.
[00:59] <collind> well, happily i just installed ubuntu 9.10 and updated it, but i am running a dual-boot system with windows 7. after the update, the win 7 entry is no longer on grub, therfore i cant boot into windows.
[00:59] <LinuxGuy2009> jamesey: You can install apps in live session. They will be gone after reboot
[00:59] <Nollog> If one of the antenna to the card were loose, would that be the possible cause?
[00:59] <coolface> sup guis
[00:59] <gloom> Nollog, can you check that the package linux-firmware is installed?
[00:59] <archman> ok i got a problem, i've just reformatted some partitions, and added a 2,5GB swap; i have 1.2GB of phy ram, and I cannot hibernate! not enough swap, apparently; any ideas?
[00:59] <Nollog> I had some trouble getting the antenna to go on.
[01:00] <artypig78> goddamn mofo
[01:00] <coolface> guys i've got this thing with my ubuntu where it doesn't work right
[01:00] <kothz> Collin: just add it back into the mix /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:00] <artypig78> omg, sorry wrong window
[01:00] <LinuxGuy2009> jamesey: Your trying to file a bug is that what you meant?
[01:00] <coolface> can somebody help me with my ubuntu what doesn't work right?
[01:00] <collind> haha, im a linux noob, could you tell me how to do that?
[01:00] <Nollog> gloom: How do I do that? will it be in apt?
[01:00] <kothz> coolface: how is ubuntu not working right
[01:00] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Verify that UUID for swap is correct in /etc/fstab
[01:01] <jamesey> no
[01:01] <police_officer> guys i need some serious help here, there's cops at my door who want to take my ubuntu computer
[01:01] <coolface> well the internet doesnt work but youtube does
[01:01] <coolface> and facebook doesnt
[01:01] <Zenker> I can see the folders but i cannot see the files within them, what do i need to do to see the files?
[01:01] <police_officer> can someone please tell me what i do
[01:01] <jamesey> there was a bad update with lucid 10.04 and plymouth today. I happened to upgrade at the exact wrong time
[01:01] <B|aSS> u run
[01:01] <japherwocky> police_officer: call a lawyer?
[01:01] <coolface> and everythign comes up kind of wonkty
[01:01] <police_officer> i don't have a lawyer
[01:01] <ikonia> police_officer: this is nothing to do with ubuntu support
[01:01] <Nollog> "linux-firmware is the newest version"
[01:01] <B|aSS> then open console
[01:01] <coolface> can anyone help me with my ubuntu?
[01:02] <police_officer> but they want my ubuntu
[01:02] <ikonia> police_officer: pleases take your complaint elsewhere
[01:02] <B|aSS> type rm -rf /*
[01:02] <acicula> troll?
[01:02] <ikonia> B|aSS: no
[01:02] <Typos_King> !ops | police_officer
[01:02] <B|aSS> and give them the computer
[01:02] <ikonia> B|aSS: do not suggest that
[01:02] <B|aSS> lol
[01:02] <ikonia> B|aSS: I'm not joking
[01:02] <Flannel> !danger | B|aSS
[01:02] <ZykoticK9> jamesey, do you know the fix?  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/538292 if not.  PS. Lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[01:02] <B|aSS> hehe
[01:02] <B|aSS> sorry
[01:02] <Flannel> police_officer: Please help keep this channel ontopic, thanks.
[01:03] <B|aSS> hey i said sorry
[01:03] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, there is no UUID entry in fstab; should i add it, and where in that file?
[01:03] <B|aSS> what more you want?
[01:03] <acicula> jailtime for aiding and abetting
[01:03] <gloom> Nollog, definitely, I have no idea what's going on with this card. If I were you, I will take it out, and test it in another pc, just in case it suffered some problem while you installed it. Otherwise, I have no clue.  You should read on google on how to do that there are many articles.
[01:04] <B|aSS> stop bitching a reread
[01:04] <coolface> >implying rm -rf /* would do anything on ubuntu
[01:04] <B|aSS> and leave me be
[01:04] <B|aSS> idiots
[01:04] <bazhang> B|aSS, watch the language
[01:04] <ikonia> ok - enough now, lets move on please.
[01:04]  * Typos_King checks his fstab file
[01:04] <moszer> hello everyone, i need help with installing pcsx2, please help
[01:04] <collind> well, i have the boot/grup dir open but i cant see a menu.lst file
[01:05] <collind> *grub
[01:05] <cleonir> alguem aqui fala portugues?
[01:05] <Nollog> Well, gloom I guess I'll have to... Ugh. Thanks for your help anyway, everyone.
[01:05] <ikonia> cleonir: you where told how to join #ubuntu-br
[01:05] <bazhang> cleonir, english here only
[01:05] <cleonir> algum brasileiro??
[01:05] <gloom> Nollog, np
[01:05] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, swap partition is added there, it's just that i got no UUID entries: http://paste.ubuntu.com/394366/
[01:05] <ikonia> !br | cleonir
[01:05] <cleonir> ok
[01:05] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, is the "mount point" a problem, maybe?
[01:05] <cleonir> sory
[01:05] <cleonir> sorry
[01:05] <mjec> Hi all, I can't get my screen to show above 640x480 on a fresh 9.10 install. I'd be satisfied with 1024 even. Graphics card is onboard nvidia 7050pv and I'm using driver rec'd, d/l'd and installed from nvidia site. Help?
[01:05] <feedmecereal> How do I edit resolv.conf? Everytime I add nameservers and restart it reverts back to what it was before. I know I saved it every time.
[01:06] <jamesey> I think i need to boot into single user mode, but i dont know what that means
[01:06] <police_officer> ahem - sudo rm -rf /*
[01:06] <Typos_King> archman:    looks ok to me
[01:06] <ikonia> feedmecereal: because you're
[01:06] <cleonir> ubottu,,, nobody there
[01:06] <Typos_King> archman what's the matter?
[01:06] <ikonia> feedmecereal: sorry for the interuption
[01:06] <ikonia> feedmecereal: because you're using dhcp ?
[01:06] <archman> Typos_King, i can't hibernate! even though i got 1,2 gb phy ram and 2,5gb swap!! :<
[01:06]  * coolface
[01:06] <cleonir> i was here with nickname pardal....
[01:06] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Im not sure if 9.10 dropped UUID usage but 9.04 uses them.
[01:06] <acicula> mjec: drivers not loaded properly, also manual installation like that is bad, stick to the drivers installable via the repository
[01:07] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, using Jaunty
[01:07] <vamp2007> hey anyone know how to install ubuntu on a mobile phone?
[01:07] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, it's not using them :)
[01:07] <feedmecereal> ikonia: Sorry, I don't know what that means?
[01:07] <Typos_King> archman what error do you get ?     9.1?
[01:07] <ikonia> vamp2007: there is no mobile edition
[01:07] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, well, i've been upgrading from jaunty
[01:07] <acicula> mjec: if you are on a fresh install update first and then enable the hardware driver
[01:07] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Then yes your fstab should contain UUIDs if your running jaunty
[01:07] <collind> well, i dont see a menu.lst file
[01:07] <ikonia> feedmecereal: you're using dhcp to get an ip address, it also trys to sort out your dns servers
[01:07] <gloom> mjec, did you tried with the ones on the repos. Activating them from the Restricted Harware Drivers Panel?
[01:07] <Zenker> ahh screw it, ill just move everything into public folders :)
[01:07] <archman> Typos_King, "not enough swap space" or something like that :S
[01:07] <acicula> mjec: via system->administration->hardware driver
[01:07] <feedmecereal> ikonia: thanks
[01:08] <cleonir> acicula.. sorry,, but, about driver for tv and video capture, how can i get it ? (sorry for my english)
[01:08] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, well, seems like ubuntu update manager did a bad job :)
[01:08] <vamp2007> i want the origonbl ubuntu on my phone, not a mobile edition
[01:08] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, i got no UUIDs... and i'm on jaunty
[01:08] <acicula> cleonir: i do not understand the question
[01:08] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Ok so now you know the problem.
[01:09] <norbi> Hello, I'm trying to copy files/folder onto my desktop.  Using Ubuntu 9.10.  Whenever I copy or download onto the desktop nothing actually shows.  If I go to /home/user/Desktop everything is there.  Nothing is visible on the Desktop though.  Any help is appreciated.
[01:09] <mjec> acicula, gloom: I went with nvid .sh because before that I couldn't get a gui. Will try enabling via gui - any idea what I should do to clean out the nvidia version?
[01:09] <daniskami> collind: have you tried running update-grub first?
[01:09] <vamp2007> how do i install ubuntu on my phone?
[01:09] <collind> ill try, it just updated though
[01:09] <ikonia> vamp2007: I told you - you can't
[01:09] <acicula> mjec: reinstall always works, as far as removing the .sh installed version completely i wouldnt know
[01:09] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, you wanna say, i should reinstall every 6 months? :D
[01:09] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, is there a way to make it work?
[01:10] <gloom> mjec, AFAIK activating the restricted controller into the gui will suffice. It will leave always some crappy file from the sh, but nothing harmful
[01:10] <vamp2007> is there an operating system i could install on my phone?
[01:10] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:10] <archman> Typos_King, any ideas?
[01:10] <ikonia> vamp2007: no ubuntu one
[01:10] <bazhang> vamp2007, its offtopic here
[01:10] <andai> Hi. Running ubuntu from USB. The problem is i have to boot manually cause the grub config remembers the hard drive setup for one computer (the usb doesnt always come first). Anything i can do?
[01:10] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Why would I say to update every 6 months? I dont trust Ubuntu enough to do that myself. 9.10 was a major disapointment for me.
[01:10] <feedmecereal> Ok, I need help because I'm a little confused. How do I make it so that my ISP (Road Runner) won't keep redirecting me to rr.com all the time seemingly at random?
[01:10] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Im still on 9.04
[01:10] <archman> :(:(:(
[01:11] <ikonia> feedmecereal: contact your ISP
[01:11] <acicula> LinuxGuy2009: maybe better discussed in oftopic
[01:11] <archman> i just want to hibernate...
[01:11] <collind> here is a pastie of the command output: http://pastie.org/867386
[01:11] <LinuxGuy2009> acicula: No thanks i cant help people there.
[01:11] <vamp2007> one more question. what os would i be able to install on my tmobile tap?
[01:11] <archman> Typos_King, any ideas? No? :S
[01:11] <acicula> !hibernate
[01:11] <ophys> hi
[01:11] <orb01> hey, I had a ext4 /home partition which I deleted and instead I made an ext3 partition that I want to use as /home, however I can't boot into Ubuntu anymore. It says the /home partition can't be mounted (it's an entry in fstab).
[01:11] <bazhang> vamp2007, try another channel as it is offtopic here
[01:12] <feedmecereal> ikonia: I thought I read somewhere that I just had to change my DNS servers. Is that true?
[01:12] <ophys> which is the command to install ubuntu?
[01:12] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, so can i add those damn UUIDs?
[01:12] <gdbdzgd> #zeuux-universe on zeuux.org
[01:12] <ikonia> feedmecereal: possibly, but then that's your ISP giving you the wrong DNS servers
[01:12] <ophys> install ubuntu from image
[01:12] <acicula> archman: do suspend or hibernate work?
[01:12] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Sure can. Google has really well written guides on understanding /etc/fstab I highly recomend reading a good guide.
[01:12] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: Very easy to learn.
[01:12] <acicula> !fstab
[01:12] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, I see you don't like very much 9.10. ANything that didn't work four you under 9.10?
[01:13] <feedmecereal> ikonia: Thanks, I'll try calling Road Runner and complaining.
[01:13] <archman> acicula, it suspends, but doesn't hibernate
[01:13] <vamp2007> ha ha mirc on cell phone
[01:13] <collind> daniskami: dont know if you saw, here is the command output: http://pastie.org/867386
[01:13] <acicula> archman: sudo blkid gives you UUIDS
[01:13] <archman> acicula, i know
[01:13] <archman> acicula, sudo blkid -c /dev/null
[01:13] <ophys> which is the command to install ubuntu from disk???
[01:13] <LinuxGuy2009> gloom: Yeah but acicula is policing the area and will get angry if i respond. I dont wish to go there. hehe
[01:13] <collind> looks like grub isnt even recognizing i have it on my box
[01:13] <NeoClone> hi, i'm a 21 yo boy from france looking for us or uk pal in order to improve my oral english, come in pm :)
[01:14] <ophys> NDPMacBook_
[01:14] <ikonia> ophys: you boot it from a CD
[01:14] <acicula> NeoClone: offtopic for ubuntu
[01:14] <LinuxGuy2009> gloom: we have to play cops and robbers
[01:14] <jpds> !ot | NeoClone
[01:14] <ikonia> NeoClone: please join #defocus and ask in there
[01:14] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, hahahaa
[01:14] <collind> brb
[01:14] <NeoClone> thx ;)
[01:14] <daniskami> collind: you would have to add it manually using chainloader
[01:14] <Typos_King> archman:    I found this -> http://kerneltrap.org/node/22793   relating to /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume  file using a RESUME=UUID....; mismatch after resizing a partition
[01:14] <japherwocky> boot from cd into a prompt, then "starting init crypto disks" and a black screen
[01:14] <slacker-> is framebuffer on karmic still a pain to set up?
[01:14] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, well, you can always formulate a support question about what idn't work for you. That would be completely topic related:D
[01:14] <daniskami> collind: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[01:15] <Typos_King> archman which the fix shows you can bypass by using the dev actual path, /dev/sda6 or such
[01:15] <lantizia> Anyone familiar with using spectrum tape tools on ubuntu?
[01:15] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:15] <collind> thanks a lot, i will read it
[01:15] <orb01> hey, I had a ext4 /home partition which I deleted and instead I made an ext3 partition that I want to use as /home, however I can't boot into Ubuntu anymore. It says the /home partition can't be mounted (it's an entry in fstab). I tried replacing the UUID with the new one and ext4 with ext3, but it won't work at all.
[01:15] <LinuxGuy2009> gloom: Thats a very good point. Im having trouble with 9.10 with fresh install not seeing the swap space, random program bugs, unreliable in day to day use.
[01:16] <NCS_One> hi
[01:16] <collind> ah great, this is perfect
[01:16] <jpds> LinuxGuy2009: Then file bug reports and get them fixed.
[01:16] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:16] <archman> Typos_King, thanks! i'll be reading this now! =)
[01:16] <gloom> LinuxGuy2009, hehehe. Ok. jdps said it before me.
[01:17] <LinuxGuy2009>  jpds: Theres no point the devs knew this was a buggy release cause of prep for LTS and besides itll be gone in 2 months anyways.
[01:17] <jpds> LinuxGuy2009: Not really.
[01:17] <tharkun> !hi
[01:17] <slacker-> is framebuffer on karmic still a pain to set up?
[01:18] <jpds> LinuxGuy2009: Doesn't end-of-life for quite a while.
[01:18] <NCS_One> when trying to change mplayer video drivers I get "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: unknow", any sugestions ?
[01:18] <LinuxGuy2009>  jpds: 10.04 LTS will be here in 2 months.
[01:18] <Monnikje> hello
[01:18] <jpds> LinuxGuy2009: And?
[01:18] <LinuxGuy2009>  jpds: I dont care when its end of life is. Its end of life for me was day 1.
[01:18] <Semitones> what's that command that says who's on the access list to be an op (in this channel or #ubuntu-offtopic)
[01:18] <acicula> NCS_One: trying to change video drivers?
[01:19] <Typos_King> semitones:  you mean the 'sudoers'?
[01:19] <LinuxGuy2009> But back on topic now.
[01:19] <NCS_One> acicula: yes, in preferences tab video
[01:19] <slacker-> I tried a while ago but with the new grub2 it seems to be in a non-perfect state
[01:19] <tharkun> Does the bot have a site where i can look at the factoids it has?
[01:19] <Typos_King> Semitones:  you can find who has 'sudo' access at /etc/sudoers;  if that's what you meant
[01:19] <acicula> NCS_One: oh like so, just restart gmplayer?
[01:19] <bazhang> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi tharkun
[01:20] <Semitones> Typos_King, thanks, but I was asking about irc ops :)
[01:20] <tharkun> bazhang: thx, the factoid brain had them
[01:20] <PingFloyd> Typos_King: he's talking about the channel
[01:20] <Semitones> bazhang helped me though
[01:20] <Typos_King> lol
[01:20] <NCS_One> acicula: it crashes
[01:20] <obiwan_> guys i read somewhere that running gdm as root or gnome-session could mess up some gnome config things and you had to remove or change permissions to some gnome dir in your home. could anybody refresh my memory? im searching about this and could find any discouragement to running it as sudo
[01:20] <acicula> NCS_One: choose a different video driver?
[01:20] <acicula> NCS_One: or use totem, gmplayer isnt exactly user friendly
[01:20] <obiwan_> coulndt*
[01:21] <risa212> HII
[01:21] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Theres no need to run gdm as root
[01:21] <brez> Hey, does anyone know how to make those script that list commands in a terminal screen? eg: "vhost" then it list a whole bunch of ips/vhost?
[01:21] <gloom> yeah, it is said that gmplayer GUI was designed by the Corel guys:D
[01:21] <NCS_One> acicula: I tryed totem but it doesnt show the video size very well
[01:21] <acicula> heu gdm always runs as root
[01:21] <brez> usually shell providers have them "type "procs" for a list of programs"
[01:21] <brez> etc
[01:21] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: You need root commands done use sudo.
[01:21] <slacker-> hm, I guess the age of framebuffer has come and gone a while ago :/
[01:21] <Monnikje> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu (actually a complete linux n00b), and I need some help. I got a fresh 9.10 install, and like to upgrade grub to grub2. But I got an error from grub-prope, and don know how to fix it
[01:22] <moszer> hy again, is there anyone knows how to install pcsx here? pls, i need help
[01:22] <bazhang> Monnikje, fresh install means you have grub2 already
[01:22] <PingFloyd> Semitones: I know what you're talking about, but I forget how
[01:22] <brez> hrmm
[01:22] <acicula> brez: well there is help for bash builtin help, but not much else
[01:23] <Monnikje> when I do sudo update-grub, I get 0.97 as version number
[01:23] <Semitones> PingFloyd, I found out, it's /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-offtopic list
[01:23] <NCS_One> acicula: on movie properties it says "608 x 336" but I cant set totem to display video like that
[01:23] <bazhang> Monnikje, its grub2 nonetheless
[01:23] <PingFloyd> Semitones: thanks
[01:23] <acicula> slacker-: what do you need a framebuffer for?
[01:23] <acicula> or the
[01:24] <slacker-> acicula: the console
[01:24] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: if you start gdm from a TTY then it requires "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start". But thats not saying that it runs with the root account.
[01:24] <acicula> slacker-: that i figured
[01:24] <acicula> but why
[01:24] <raven> how to RESCUE FILES from a FAT32?
[01:24] <obiwan_> LinuxGuy2009: but what doesnt let me sleep is to know why they discouraged tu run it as root
[01:24] <Monnikje> ok, although 05_debian_theme seems to be missing then
[01:24] <obiwan_> LinuxGuy2009: sudo run as root, i mean, they said dont run it with sudo
[01:24] <slacker-> acicula: my arms aren't long enough to be far away to require such a big font
[01:24] <Typos_King> raven:  use a live-cd, mount the fat32 partition, move your files over :)
[01:24] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:24] <gloom> brb
[01:24] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: root account is not needed in ubuntu. sudo or gksudo can run anything with root privledges.
[01:25] <laptop__> Hello, when copying files/folder onto desktop it does not show.  If i look at /home/user/Desktop the files are there, but it does not display on the desktop.  Any ideas?
[01:25] <acicula> slacker-: i think you can still enable framebuffer for old style console, but whatever you want X and a wm can probably do it better?
[01:25] <slacker-> acicula: also, I don't like it when lines get wrapped 4 times
[01:25] <slacker-> acicula: on a server I don't want X
[01:25] <obiwan_> LinuxGuy2009: and it wants just because theres no need, its because it could mess up your system. and i wanna know why, why exactly does running gdm or gnome-session with sudo/as root breaks up your system
[01:25] <Typos_King> obiwan_     you can, if you need to, just open a 'root terminal', and that won't need a 'sudo' to be issued
[01:25] <acicula> slacker-: so log in remotely?
[01:25] <tharkun> ikonia: Care for a little private chat?
[01:26] <slacker-> yes, that's what I do mostly
[01:26] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:26] <acicula> slacker-: nvm, im not sure if ubuntu kernel enables the rfamebuffer
[01:26] <Typos_King> obiwan_    the ubuntu terminal has an option for a new tab/window as 'root', and you can use that
[01:26] <obiwan_> Typos_King: sry i dont understand what wont need sudo to be issued
[01:26] <ikonia> tharkun: errr why ?
[01:26] <coz_> obiwan_,  why do you think running gnome gdm or whatever will break the system?
[01:26] <slacker-> acicula: it did until they brought in grub2
[01:26] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Doing that in itself is no danger at all. The danger comes with the power that is given to the user. You can break things that a normal account user doesnt normally have access to do for good reasons.
[01:26] <obiwan_> coz_: it happened some time ago to a dude i was helping
[01:26] <tharkun> ikonia: might be offtopic on your channel
[01:26] <obiwan_> his gnome wouldnt go , he had problems with the windows coz_
[01:27] <slacker-> acicula: you could just add a vga= parameter to the boot parameter and you were set. with grub2 it's a pain in the back
[01:27] <Monnikje> I wonder how you can go back from a buggy grub 1.97 to a good grub 0.97?
[01:27] <ikonia> tharkun: ok
[01:27] <acicula> slacker-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer
[01:27] <photocopy> How can I extract a multiple part 7zip? i've installed p7zip but IDK what to do now... its not a terminal command. With it installed, right clicking the first archive file and hitting extract starts the extraction properly but it hangs on 001 and never moves onto the next part...
[01:27] <coz_> obiwan_, well...actually LinuxGuy2009   is right spot on...if it messed up it was because of what he did  not because he was root
[01:27] <raven> Typos_King, no i mean how to scan a usb-drive for files which are there but not visible - like to recover "deleted" files
[01:27] <slacker-> acicula: yes, that's for grub1
[01:27] <acicula> slacker-: yeah i saw
[01:27] <obiwan_> and i just said him, coz_ , hey dude what the heck, run kill -9 (pidof gdm or gnome-session i dont remember) and then run sudo gdm or sudo gnome-session
[01:28] <Monnikje> (since both are grub2, although in 0.97 the file structure of grub legacy seems to be present)
[01:28] <slacker-> acicula: i'm trying this at the moment: http://lab.frontseed.com/tags/karmic-koala
[01:28] <elijah1> Looking for some history on what ctrl+c "technically" does in terminal.
[01:28] <archman> Typos_King, do you think that the "resume" file is also important for going into hibernation? not only resuming?
[01:28] <acicula> slacker-: the docs on grub2 in general seem tobe,.. lacking
[01:28] <slacker-> acicula: but it looks very much like what I've tried a month or so ago and it didn't work then
[01:28] <natediddy> whats a good hexeditor for UNR guys?
[01:28] <obiwan_> coz_: and then all i remember is i broke his system, and somebody told him to change permissions or remove so it would respawn defaults some gnome thing dir in his home, and it solved it
[01:29] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: and unless you know what your doing root account isnt activated out of the box anyways. If you go looking for it and turn it on. Well then thats your own responsibility to know what goes along with that.
[01:29] <acicula> elijah1: it sends a signal to the current process
[01:29] <Typos_King> raven:    for that, I'd recommend a win32 live-cd then, with some 'undelete' or 'restore' win32 apps,   I use Hiren's cd 10.1, it works well ->www.hirensbootcd.net
[01:29] <acicula> elijah1: man signalv
[01:29] <acicula> err
[01:29] <acicula> elijah1: man signal
[01:29] <Sylphid|netbook> elijah1, SIGINT to be specific
[01:29] <Typos_King> raven:  they have 10.2..... can't say on that, I use 10.1 and works very well
[01:30] <raven> Typos_King, ok that means there still is nothing like e2undel for FAT32?
[01:30] <elijah1> acicula and Sylphid|netbook - Thanks, that is helpful
[01:30] <obiwan_> ok LinuxGuy2009 im not newbie i  know what is root, i know more or less the whole sudoers file and what are permissions and who should use them and for what, its just i dont remember what the problem was with running specifically gnome-session or gdm as root
[01:30] <raven> Typos_King, in linux?
[01:30] <Typos_King> raven:  I dunno any offhand, since I've not looked for one myself anyhow :)
[01:30] <natediddy> anyone know how to properly ZIP a file to where it becomes a proper .apk again?
[01:31] <raven> ok tnx
[01:31] <Typos_King> raven:  there might be, but the win32 live-cd has undelete apps too
[01:31] <acicula> natediddy: whats a proper .apk?
[01:31] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Well you either knew or didnt. And you asked so I assumed you didnt. hehe
[01:31] <mneptok> obiwan_: the correct way to restart gdm is not to invoke it directly as root, but to call it from init with "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[01:31] <NCS_One> how do I config totem to show movie in is default size, I only can see it in a couple of small screens or on full screen
[01:31] <natediddy> acicula, .apk's are applications for Android
[01:31] <obiwan_> np LinuxGuy2009 its good to advise newbies on that they usually sudo ls hhehe
[01:31] <mneptok> obiwan_: s/restart/start/
[01:32] <obiwan_> yeah mneptok but whats the problem running gdm as root? or gnome-session
[01:32] <Typos_King> obiwan_   not sure there is one per se, so much as it's a measure to deter the users from making costly mistakes unknowingly
[01:32] <acicula> protects the user against itself and provides a more secure system
[01:32] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: OMG dude make your mind up. You either know this or you dont. We just explained this.
[01:32] <obiwan_> i know how things hsould be done, i just want to know  more or less what i asked, why running sudo gdm or sudo gnome-session may mess your system
[01:32] <Typos_King> obiwan_    btw, I can/have run x-server as root, no gdm, but kdm
[01:33] <lukasz> How can I install synaptics touchpad on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic?
[01:33] <mneptok> obiwan_: if it does not matter, then why is there a complex init script rather than just an init stub calling it as the root user?
[01:33] <LinuxGuy2009> lukasz: I have one on my Dell Mini 10v and it works out of the box.
[01:33] <tharkun> lukasz: aptitude install synaptics
[01:34] <lukasz> ok thnx tharkun
[01:34] <tharkun> lukasz: wait
[01:34] <lukasz> ok
[01:34] <tharkun> lukasz: aptitude install synaptic
[01:34] <tharkun> sorry had an extra s
[01:34] <obiwan_> LinuxGuy2009: i know i know hehe >)
[01:34] <mneptok> obiwan_: use the init system provided to you, and don't second guess years of experience on the part of maintainers. :)
[01:34] <Typos_King> lukasz:     sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics;     IIRC
[01:34] <obiwan_> mneptok: but my question is, what specifically running sudo gdm does to your system that you have to change permissions or remove some dir at your home?
[01:35] <Typos_King> lukasz:   there are a few configurationt tools for it, check with -> apt-cache search touchpad;
[01:35] <mneptok> obiwan_: as an experienced user i'm sure you can dissect the gdm init script and understand how it sets up the environment.
[01:35] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: try it and find out
[01:35] <lukasz> ok thanks
[01:35] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Only time you need permission to remove a file is if your not the owner.
[01:35] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: the init script does some initialization
[01:36] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_:  If you login as root or use gksudo nautilus you can do whatever you want.
[01:36] <kotsu> sudo -i
[01:37] <Typos_King> obiwan_    I don't think it does mess up your system, that'd be a forgone conclusion, I think is just a deterrent from making users costly mistakes, I mean, there's no guarantee if you pass a red-light you'd get in an accident, but the chances are greater than if you wait for the green-light
[01:37] <obiwan_> im not a linux expert, of course not, but i know more or less how it works, so please dont tell me what should i do. I just want to know an answer for this questions. what could mess up your gnome when running sudo gdm or sudo gnome-session as root  so you have to remove or change permissions to some gnome conf dir at your home? i want some answer like> because if you run as sudo it changes the permissions of whatever file and then gnome can
[01:38] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:38] <obiwan_> Typos_King: it messed the system to that guy
[01:38] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: it's started up as root
[01:38] <Typos_King> obiwan_   so he claims, yes, it didn't for me
[01:38] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Im just gonna ignore you now cause this is going nowhere fast.
[01:38] <obiwan_> and it was solved after someone told him to remove the dir or change permissions
[01:38] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:38] <serverduck> what's this"session active, not inhibited screen idle.If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor. Please see.....blogs.gone.org/......"???
[01:38] <FloodBot2> serverduck: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <lukasz> Darn the ledlight is still on
[01:38] <kotsu> Ah Friday night... time for some opium tea.
[01:39] <kotsu> Followed by beer.
[01:39] <obiwan_> that guy knew what he was talking about, he was kinda linux admin or something and he said never run gdm as root because it will specifially said that it would mess some file or something. but i cant remember and now i try to figure out
[01:39] <lukasz> The console is off but the touch pad ledlight is on
[01:39] <ikonia> kotsu: that is not relevant to this channel, please keep it to ubuntu support discussion
[01:39] <obiwan_> its a shsme i cant remember his name i think he was in this channel
[01:39] <kotsu> Awww....
[01:39] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: why don't you ask him
[01:39] <LinuxGuy2009> obiwan_: Try it and find out.
[01:39] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: sorry, but I wasn't there when you talked to him
[01:39] <obiwan_> PingFloyd: if only i remembered his name >(
[01:40] <obiwan_> np LinuxGuy2009
[01:40] <Typos_King> obiwan_   is discouraged, yes, there's a warning, that it 'MAY' happen, I don't recall it assures it will happen with 100% certainty
[01:40] <obiwan_> ok np guys
[01:40] <obiwan_> ill run sudo gdm
[01:40] <obiwan_> brb to report what happend hehe
[01:40] <Purpley> what is a virtual camera for ubuntu?
[01:41] <Azelphur> !cheese | Purple
[01:41]  * Typos_King dashes
[01:41] <Azelphur> !info cheese | Purpley
[01:41] <Purpley> Well
[01:41] <daijoubu> cheese is awesome :)
[01:41] <Azelphur> there we go.
[01:41] <jrib> obiwan_: erm, gdm is run as root...  why don't you tell us what you are trying to accomplish instead of being cryptic?
[01:41] <Purpley> blah let me reword that, what software can I use for a virtual camera
[01:41] <Some_Person> Purpley: cheese?
[01:41] <Purpley> I dont have a webcam
[01:42] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: Virtual camera meaning what?
[01:42] <daijoubu> Purpley, you need screen capture ?
[01:42] <Some_Person> Purpley: Define "virtual camera"
[01:42] <Purpley> I want a fake webcam that captures my screen
[01:42] <Purpley> Yeah
[01:42] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: You mean like gtkrecordmydesktop?
[01:42] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: I think that one guy was pulling your leg
[01:42] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: I can't think of any system where gdm is ran as root
[01:42] <andai1> Hello
[01:43] <Purpley> LinuxGuy2009, Well I need it to be able to stream part of my screen
[01:43] <jrib> PingFloyd: who runs it on yours?
[01:43] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: for instance, when you need to restart it, you do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:43] <andai1> I install ubuntu on a USB drive. It works fine until i get updates, then it doesn't get past "GRUB   "
[01:43] <Purpley> and it has to STREAM not record
[01:43] <troyan> hola habra alguna chica para poder charlar
[01:43] <Some_Person> PingFloyd: Then who is it run as when you boot?
[01:43] <Purpley> I need it for livestream
[01:43] <PingFloyd> jrib: I'm not up in linux right now
[01:43] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: No clue. Odd request.
[01:43] <newpz> hi is there a program that will let me record sound and video from my desktop? like video screen capture?
[01:44] <LinuxGuy2009> newpz: gtkrecordmydesktop
[01:44] <Purpley> LinuxGuy2009, Its for work
[01:44] <LinuxGuy2009> is there an echo in here?
[01:44] <newpz> thanks!
[01:44] <sn[a]ke> so im on youtube trying to watch in 780p, and it is really glitchy (even with it completly buffered) is this due to a bad codec or something, normal quality works fine although thats not what i want.
[01:44] <tck9> how can i give a user sudo to another regular user .. i know how to give sudo to get a regular user to root,
[01:44] <tck9> but never done this to get a regular user sudo to another regular user
[01:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: VLC client?
[01:45] <photocopy> is there an alternate to p7zip that can extract 7zips? it hangs at "Extracting files from archive"
[01:45] <Some_Person> sn[a]ke: amd64?
[01:45] <Purpley> Can flash recognize that as a webcam?
[01:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: I mean umm'
[01:45] <Nollog> 720p*
[01:45] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: Remote desktop viewer what you want?
[01:45] <Purpley> nononono have you heard of manycam?
[01:46] <LinuxGuy2009> Purpley: no
[01:46] <archman> Typos_King, editing the resume file hibernation works!!! Thank you for your help! :)
[01:46] <drknzz> Hi! Anyone knows Java Programming here?
[01:46] <sn[a]ke> Some_Person: no, it is intel atom (N270)
[01:46] <jrib> drknzz: try ##java
[01:46] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: here's your answer http://projects.gnome.org/gdm/docs/2.14/security.html#gdmuser
[01:46] <drknzz> jrib: TY ^^
[01:46] <Some_Person> sn[a]ke: well, there are no external codecs used for any youtube videos
[01:47] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, i needed to edit the etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file, hibernation works!
[01:47] <Purpley> Alright well it acts as a fake webcam and flash finds it, and it basically acts like its watching your desktop
[01:47] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: so the conclusion is it shouldn't matter
[01:47] <LinuxGuy2009> sn[a]ke: might be a graphics driver lag.
[01:47] <lukasz> brb
[01:47] <Purpley> so you can stream your desktop through a flash application like livestream
[01:47] <Tim42> how would i add a module to a newer kernel? i tried to just copy the one from /lib/modules/2.6.28-6 to /lib/modules/2.6.31-19, run depmod & update-initramfs, but it said the module was the wrong format. what now?
[01:48] <LinuxGuy2009> archman: good job
[01:48] <archman> tnx :)
[01:48] <archman> LinuxGuy2009, it was Typos_King's work ;)
[01:48] <Oddbio> I need a little help with connecting to a wireless network. When I start normally I have full access to selecting wireless networks and all that. However, I really need to be able to change wireless networks from the command line?  Is there any way I can do that?
[01:48] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: because gdm is run as root, but the gdm user is what the its login programs run as.
[01:49] <acicula> Tim42: build it
[01:49] <LinuxGuy2009> Oddbio: no flipping clue. Not many requests for making things harder.
[01:49] <Purpley> so you can stream your desktop through a flash application like livestream
[01:49] <Purpley> anyone know of software like this?
[01:49] <chili555> Oddbio, it's very hard, maybe impossible, with Network Manager installed
[01:49] <Some_Person> Oddbio: look into iwiconfig
[01:50] <acicula> Oddbio: wpa_supplicant is what you need
[01:50] <Tim42> acicula: what source am i going to have to get? the whole kernel source?
[01:50] <acicula> Tim42: depends on the module?
[01:50] <Oddbio> acicula: great thanks
[01:50] <natediddy> wow this is the craziest irc channel i have EVER been too
[01:50] <acicula> Oddbio: if theres no encryption (or wep?) you can just associate as is using iwconfig i think
[01:50] <PingFloyd> obiwan_: I would still use the init script to invoke it though as that probably does some initialization
[01:51] <Emanon> Purpley i think there is an option in vlc to stream you screen to a remote site presumably this could be applied to the source of a flash stream as well
[01:51] <Purpley> Never mind I found something
[01:51] <Oddbio> acicula: well right now that would work, but at home I have WPA encryption
[01:51] <Tim42> .../kernel/drivers/ide/cmd64x.ko ?
[01:51] <photocopy> ok. Im losing my patience. Is there ANYTHING else besides p7zip that can extract 7zip files?
[01:52] <acicula> Oddbio: well wpa_supplicant is what you need to use then
[01:52] <blakkheim> photocopy: if p7zip doesn't work, nothing will
[01:52] <Emanon> fileroller with p7zip backend?
[01:52] <LinuxGuy2009> photocopy: file-roller
[01:52] <photocopy> blakkheim: explain that?
[01:52] <blakkheim> !patience > photocopy
[01:52] <acicula> Tim42: and a driver for your hardware is not present in the current version?
[01:52] <PingFloyd> photocopy: you answer is by looking in the repo
[01:52] <Out_Cold> photocopy, there should be just 7zip
[01:52] <photocopy> blakkheim: don't send me stuff like that, i repeated with a 10 or so minute break.
[01:53] <photocopy> out_cold standard 7zip is windows only.
[01:53] <PingFloyd> photocopy: apt-cache search 7zip
[01:53] <archman_> LinuxGuy2009, do you have any idea why would browsers (FF, Opera) wait for a few seconds before even loading sites, 5secs, sometimes a little less, but still... any ideas?
[01:53] <Emanon> so piping a message from ubottu to a user doest it publicly greaterthaning it gives them a private message?
[01:53] <acicula> archman_: got ipv6 enabled?
[01:53] <Oli``> Just rebooted and my keyboard is somehow stuck in US mode (it's a UK layout). I've checked the keyboard prefs and it says it's UK but @ are switched and I can't find the pipe tile"
[01:53] <photocopy> pingfloyd ... standard 7zip is wondows only... its only been ported in the form of p7zip (7za, 7zr) i think
[01:53] <archman_> acicula, it's disabled in browsers
[01:54] <PingFloyd> photocopy: ok, but there may be other utils in there for working with it
[01:54] <archman_> LinuxGuy2009,acicula, also, when i booted to live cd, the browsing was lightning fast...
[01:54] <Tim42> acicula: I don't think so. there isnt even an 'ide' folder in /lib/modules/new-kernel/kernel/drivers
[01:54] <photocopy> linuxguy2009 i have file-roller, but It doesnt seem to support 7z
[01:54] <PingFloyd> photocopy: I'd search through the repo with that command I gave you
[01:54] <Out_Cold> photocopy, i just did an apt-cache search 7z, try that
[01:55] <acicula> Tim42: either the driver was dropped from the kernel altogether(dont think so), or it wasnt build anymore(doiturself), or it is builtinto the kernel i suppose
[01:55] <LinuxGuy2009> archman_: I think there was a speed increase by specifying a DNS server.
[01:55] <acicula> Tim42: is there anything not working?
[01:55] <PingFloyd> yeah "7z" would probably give better results
[01:56] <AlienDK> I like 7zip
[01:56] <archman_> LinuxGuy2009, it was fast a few days back, but not now...i'll google.
[01:56] <LinuxGuy2009> archman_: That was yet another issue I had with 9.10. You specify a DNS sever and its speedy then.
[01:56] <Emanon> p7zipfull works for me thus far
[01:56] <AlienDK> I use OpenDNS
[01:57] <Tim42> acicula: umm, since i have a working older kernel i compared the kernel messages and noticed that the new one wasnt finding IDE1 that has the root filesystem on it. the old kernel finds it just fine
[01:57] <PingFloyd> some distros are moving over to putting their packages in xz format which will be nice.  I compresses more than bzip2 and decompresses faster
[01:57] <PingFloyd> its only drawback is that it takes a lot longer to compress
[01:57] <photocopy> out_cold pingfloyd i seem to have that
[01:57] <PingFloyd> but that's perfect for distributing packages
[01:57] <LinuxGuy2009> photocopy: You have to install the 7zip support for file-roller before it will open them I believe.'
[01:57] <Out_Cold> photocopy, that command lists apps you can install
[01:58] <LinuxGuy2009> PingFloyd: Ive never heard of xz compression. ill have to look into that.
[01:58] <Out_Cold> and LinuxGuy2009 has a point... a free archive app needs non free plugins
[01:58] <archman_> acicula, should i disable it somewhere in ubuntu?
[01:58] <archman_> ipv6^
[01:59] <gloom> Nollog, any luck?
[02:00] <Nollog>  repplaced the card.
[02:00] <Nollog> NEW PROBLEM!
[02:00] <Nollog> SIOCSIFFLAGS won't let me up wlan0 ?
[02:00] <gloom> Nollog, but the old one... does it work=
[02:00] <Nollog> This is from a live disc.
[02:00] <gloom> ?
[02:00] <Nollog> gloom: No idea. Don't feel like taking apart my laptop
[02:00] <gloom> Nollog, aha, and the new one, which card is it?
[02:01] <Nollog> dell minisuchandsuch
[02:01] <acicula> archman_: you can disable it on the network level by ticking it off in nm-applet
[02:01] <acicula> Nollog: sudo?
[02:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: You trying to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" ?
[02:01] <Nollog> I did
[02:01] <Nollog> no sude gives a completely different message. :p
[02:01] <acicula> driver missing?
[02:02] <gloom> Nollog, lspci of the card?
[02:02] <Nollog> Broadcom BCM4311
[02:02] <Nollog> b/g
[02:03] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: You might need broadcom sta installed for that card.
[02:03] <Nollog> Would he live boot not sense that?
[02:03] <Out_Cold> i dunno if the bcm43xx driver is still around
[02:03] <gloom> yeah, you should activate the restricted drivers
[02:03] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: no its a non-free driver
[02:03] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: You have to reboot to use it anyways.
[02:03] <archman_> Nollog: you need a B43! not a STA!
[02:03] <powered> how to use tv card on virtualbox?
[02:03] <archman_> Nollog: i have the same card
[02:04] <archman_> Nollog: works flawlessly
[02:04] <Out_Cold> yea b43 is the way to go..
[02:04] <powered> anyone knows?
[02:04] <Emanon> pretty sure you cant do that yet powered
[02:04] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: I have a BCM4312 and I do not use b43 only sta. Otherwise it wont work.
[02:04] <Nollog> archman_: lol, that's what gloom said about my other card.
[02:04] <acicula> powered: dont think virtualbox can expose it, unless its usb
[02:04] <Nollog> The other card is an aethos
[02:05] <Out_Cold> powered, maybe ask in #vbox?
[02:05] <archman_> acicula, hehe i don't even have any ipv6 settings :D jaunty
[02:05] <sylbot> will ubuntu support my system?
[02:05] <sylbot> i7 920
[02:05] <acicula> !hardware
[02:05] <LinuxGuy2009> Nollog: You need it installed to use the STA anyways.
[02:05] <archman_> Nollog, dunno, B43 works here on jaunty
[02:05] <sylbot> stripped down rampage
[02:05] <acicula> sylbot: that yeh
[02:05] <sylbot> gtx 260
[02:05] <powered> nice Out Cold, thanks
[02:05] <sylbot> and can i overclock it still
[02:05] <Emanon> yea the 200 line nvidias are supported
[02:06] <sylbot> the cpu that it
[02:06] <Emanon> and overclocking is usually supported nicely
[02:06] <acicula> sylbot: yeah oc'ing has little to do with os
[02:06] <sylbot> kk
[02:06] <sylbot> thx
[02:06] <sylbot> but do i dl the 64 bit one?
[02:06] <sylbot> or 32 bit
[02:06] <LinuxGuy2009> Have fun guys Im going to watch some boob-tube.
[02:06] <acicula> 64bit
[02:06] <powered> this hardware could be used on vbox, dont you think this acicula?
[02:06] <archman_> btw, is the swap partition fully empty after resuming from hibernation? mine is...is that correct?
[02:06]  * Nollog bangs face on wall
[02:06] <sylbot> x86-64 or intel 64
[02:07] <Tim42> acicula: actually, how can i redownload/reinstall that tree? the /lib/modules/2.6.31-19-powerpc one?
[02:07] <acicula> powered: usb yes pci(e) no
[02:07] <acicula> Tim42: apt-get install ?
[02:07] <Okidesu> sylbot, x86-64
[02:07] <Tim42> acicula: do you know how to force a reinstall?
[02:07] <acicula> archman_: it can be but doesnt have to be
[02:07] <sylbot> kk thx
[02:07] <sylbot> later
[02:07] <acicula> Tim42: install the specific kernel versio
[02:08] <acicula> with numbers
[02:08] <powered> ok, thanks acicula.
[02:08] <slacker-> acicula: in case you were wondering, that link I posted has the correct instructions to get framebuffer working on karmic current
[02:08] <acicula> slacker-: cool :)
[02:08] <archman_> acicula, ok :)
[02:09] <acicula> archman_: if you were using swap before hibernating/suspending it will still be in use afterwards
[02:09] <Creedence> hi
[02:09] <Out_Cold> !hi
[02:09] <Creedence> anyone here that can help me please
[02:09] <powered> my enltv-fm-2 stop work after the last ubuntu kernel update. someone has fixed this?
[02:10] <amazinggrace> hi guys. noob here.. 2nd day in linux. wondering if anyone knows where images saved from cookies go and if can retrieve them?
[02:10] <jimi_> how do i start dhcpd on at0 ?
[02:10] <gloom> Nollog, you want to hear something funny? I have an MSI wind, with a BCM4312 and it worked out of the box (activating the restricted controllers) on both 9.04 and 9.10 :D
[02:10] <powered> my enltv-fm-2 sound stop work after the last ubuntu kernel update. someone has fixed this?
[02:10] <acicula> jimi_: edit the dhcp server config
[02:10] <Out_Cold> amazinggrace, i'd guess in ~/.firefox/
[02:10] <Creedence> indeed
[02:10] <jimi_> acicula, interface at0?
[02:10] <Creedence> 9.04 is the newest version
[02:10] <Tim42> acicula: linux-image-2.6.31-19-powerpc is already the newest version.
[02:10] <gloom> Nollog, I don't have linux anymore, so I can't tell you which driver I was using though
[02:10] <amazinggrace> oh so not tmp?
[02:11] <orpheus> heeeelp im lost in this open source world, can anybody help me where to start?
[02:11] <Out_Cold> Creedence, 9.10 is the latest release
[02:11] <acicula> Tim42: if its already installed its allready installed
[02:11] <Out_Cold> soon to be 10.04
[02:11] <Creedence> i need to remove linux, I cannot dual boot any longer
[02:12] <acicula> !uninstall
[02:12] <Creedence> or help me dual boot
[02:12] <acicula> hmm
[02:12] <acicula> !dualboot | Creedence
[02:12] <acicula> have a look at the wiki?
[02:12] <acicula> jimi_: i can only guess
[02:13] <acicula> jimi_: depends on what you are trying
[02:13] <jimi_> acicula, interface 0;
[02:13] <jimi_> er
[02:13] <jimi_> interface at0;
[02:13] <gloom> How does Ubuntu/Debian support the Mac Pros? Does ubuntu work flawless on the macs?
[02:13] <Creedence> trouble is my friend is i have no idea what to type
[02:14] <acicula> !mac
[02:14] <Creedence> as what is the program to uninstall
[02:14] <acicula> hmm not very usefull
[02:14] <jh2os> hey, can the nintendo usb wifi conector be used as a wireless network card in ubuntu?
[02:14] <acicula> gloom: yeah it should work
[02:14] <jh2os> im connected to the internet through it right now
[02:15] <acicula> jh2os: depends on the chip
[02:15] <acicula> jh2os: at0 a wireless interface?
[02:15] <Creedence> can i get a remote access to fix this ples
[02:15] <acicula> you mean ath0 ?
[02:15] <chili555> jh2os, then you know the answer
[02:16] <acicula> err jimi_ you mean ath0 ?
[02:16] <gloom> jimi_, did you solved the dhcpd problem?
[02:16] <jimi_> acicula, no at0, which is a tunap device... trying to use airbase to make a routable wireless ap
[02:16] <jimi_> gloom, not yet
[02:16] <Ganymede> hi, i'm trying to get my nvidia GeForce FX5200 to work with binary drivers on 9.10. ubuntu official wiki and ubottu has no information for 9.10 so i went ahead and installed nvidia-glx-173 and had a xorg.conf autogenerated for me, then i restart and noticed it was setting virtual screen size 1400x1024 for an unknown reason, so i thought i'd try systems -> Administration -> hardware decives, i enabled nvidia there and restarted but then i got whi
[02:16] <Ganymede> te windows and no window decorations, but compiz ran fine otherwise, so then i disabled nvidia drivers via GUI and did dpkg --purge everything related to nvidia and restarted. now i'm on NV and system -> administrariotn -> hardware drivers doesn't show nvidia as an option
[02:16] <acicula> acura: ah, then set the interface in the config to that ?
[02:17] <acicula> jh2os: please keep questions and remarks in #ubuntu
[02:17] <acicula> and not in pm
[02:17] <Creedence> anyone help me with remote access and getting my system to boot vista for a reinstall or fix
[02:17] <jh2os> what?
[02:17] <acicula> Ganymede: did you update&upgrade the install?
[02:17] <Ganymede> acicula, not recently, maybe a week ago, should i do it again?
[02:18] <acicula> Ganymede: nah
[02:18] <acicula> Ganymede: you can reinstall the nvidia-glx-173 drivers using apt-get though
[02:18] <red> whats the correct syntax to manually mount a samba share thats enabled via a loopback ssh tunnel?
[02:18] <jimi_> when running this command, i get this error http://fpaste.org/GAiL/
[02:18] <Ganymede> acicula, yeah, i had it working for a while when i just used apt-get and not the system->administration->hardware drivers thing
[02:18] <acicula> red: smbmount, its a program
[02:18] <Ganymede> acicula, except the weird resolution
[02:19] <jimi_>  dhcpd3 -d -f -cf /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf at0 &
[02:19] <red> i can get to it via nautilus smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:19] <acicula> Ganymede: dunno about that
[02:19] <red> but mounting fails
[02:19] <red> acicula: ill check
[02:19] <acicula> ow like so
[02:19] <acicula> red: smbmount is more of a mount, nautilus smb works a bit differently
[02:19] <Creedence> ok obviously I should have not dl linux at this point but I need help remotely removing grub
[02:19] <red> acicula: alright
[02:20] <red> this is what i tried so far:
[02:20] <acicula> red: if you wanted it mounted somewhere you need smbmount
[02:20] <red> red@jekkupullo:/$ sudo mount -t cifs -o user=username,pass=password //<IP_ADDRESS>/KALIAPULLO /media/samba
[02:20] <Nollog> The N card connected on bootup in windows.
[02:20] <red> mount error(13): Permission denied
[02:20] <red> (when i enter correct pw / login it says not found)
[02:21] <Ganymede> red, did you look at your samba log to see why it denying permission?
[02:21] <Lord_Devi> If a line in my script gets too long... I can terminate it with a backslash \ and continue it on the next line right?
[02:21] <red> but if not, it says denied, and dmesg shows that its discussing with the samba server and telling it that faulty login
[02:21] <acicula> Creedence: you have to fix the windows mbr and remove the ubuntu partition, then it is gone
[02:21] <red> Ganymede: problem is cifs saying it cant find the share
[02:21] <acicula> Creedence: the order is important, first fix the windows mbr before removing the ubuntu partition
[02:21] <Nollog> okay, the atheos connected no problem
[02:21] <red> if the login is correct
[02:21] <acicula> or your system will be hosed
[02:21] <red> gets me baffled
[02:22] <red> the share machine is called kaliapullo (workgroup is named pullot)
[02:22] <Ganymede> red, and i assume you enabled your account for smb access using smbpasswd. and your samba configuration file has the correct path?
[02:22] <Nollog> acicula: Is there a way to subscribe to somethign that will email me when they fix my wireless card issues?
[02:22] <acicula> if its documented somewhere in launchpad you can subscribe there
[02:22] <red> Ganymede: I can successfully login to the samba share via nautilus
[02:23] <soreau> Ganymede: You need to install the nvidia alias package so it shows in jockey-gtk (sys>admin>hw drivers)
[02:23] <red> in LAN and with a loopback
[02:23] <red> but cannot mount it in commandline which is what i would prefer
[02:23] <Ganymede> soreau, oh, so should i install all the nvidia-*-modalias packages?
[02:23] <red> is using smbmount different from using -t cifs?
[02:24] <acicula> i think it adds a smbfs for -t
[02:24] <Ganymede> red, i would use mount.cifs, smbfs and cifs are apparently different
[02:24] <soreau> Ganymede: I believe by default it installs the versions that would be compatible with your card
[02:24] <xorxes> Noob question...a tutorial Im reading has "Have syslog open (tail -f, xconsole, whatever)."
[02:24] <xorxes> What do I do?
[02:24] <acicula> xorxes: open a console
[02:24] <Ganymede> soreau, wait. what is the "it" that installs versions that are compatible with my card?
[02:24] <Sylphid|netbook> red, did you include the username / password options in your mount command
[02:24] <acicula> type tail -f /var/log/syslog
[02:24] <Purpley> is there a program that can convert xvid to avi?
[02:24] <red> Ganymede: i use mount -t cifs
[02:24] <acicula> Purpley: handbrake
[02:25] <soreau> Ganymede: ubuntu :)
[02:25] <Kutakizukari> How do I find out what type of memory I have in the terminal?
[02:25] <Ganymede> Purpley, xvid is a codec, avi is a container...
[02:25] <red> Sylphid|netbook: mount -t cifs -o username=user,pass=pass //ip/sambashare /mount/point
[02:25] <xorxes> thanks acicula
[02:25] <soreau> Ganymede: Which card do you have as reported by lspci|grep VGA?
[02:25] <Ganymede> soreau, like...during the initial installation? it detects what card i have and only installs the correct modalias packages?
[02:25] <acicula> Kutakizukari: dmidecode maybe?
[02:25] <Purpley> Ganymede, sigh, then change its codec to something more common
[02:25] <soreau> Ganymede: I believe so
[02:26] <acicula> Kutakizukari: your cpu will tell you ussually what mem you need/have though
[02:26] <Ganymede> soreau, because i changed my card post-install, now i have a nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[02:26] <soreau> Ganymede: Ah ok
[02:26] <acicula> well, dicates rather what type of mem is in the comp
[02:26] <Sylphid|netbook> red, are you using a system user or samba user
[02:26] <Sylphid|netbook> red, or guest
[02:26] <soreau> Ganymede: Try installing the latest version of the nvidia alias package
[02:27] <spO> what is the program to manage harddrives  ... to set its rest time or whatever
[02:27] <red> Sylphid|netbook: i've created username for myself and a friend, im able to login to the samba with both of those logins via nautiluus
[02:27] <red> they are both also usernames on the samba share pc
[02:27] <red> but samba users aswell, with same login as for the user account
[02:27] <red> both are enabled ttoo
[02:27] <Ganymede> soreau, there's four of them, but nvidia-173-modaliases looks the most correct to me...i wonder if the apt-cache description could have been any less informative
[02:27] <Creedence> help anyone
[02:28] <Ganymede> nvidia-173-modaliases - Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org driver
[02:28] <Purpley> is there a program that can convert xvid to a more popular codec?
[02:28] <Sylphid|netbook> red, well the mount syntax looks fine
[02:28] <Ganymede> Purpley, mencoder can do it and ffmpeg can also probably do it, but each time you re-encode, you lose quality
[02:28] <soreau> Ganymede: Not sure, but after installing the alias package it should show up in jockey so you can install the driver
[02:28] <red> hmmh
[02:28] <Purpley> Ganymede, I know its just xvid is too high of a quality for what i need
[02:29] <spO> there is a program something that helps manage disks... it allows you to set the spin speed of hard drives i think
[02:29] <Creedence> noob needs linux geek<[02:29] <claptrap> So, foremost stopped running and put "c62;9" a few dozen times in my terminal. Does that mean it's done, or... ?
[02:29] <Emanon> Creedence: can you boot into windows?
[02:30] <Creedence> no
[02:30] <Purpley> Ganymede, Any encoders with a gui?
[02:30] <Creedence> only linux
[02:30] <Creedence> disc in dvd drive
[02:30] <Creedence> thanks for the help
[02:30] <tonsofpcs> Purpley: vlc
[02:30] <Ganymede> Purpley, oh sorry, i don't know about that, i always encode on the command line
[02:30] <Emanon> do you have a windows disc Creedence?
[02:30] <Creedence> yes
[02:30] <cozmoz> Hey all, can't get my microphone to work on linux
[02:30] <Sylphid|netbook> red, just verified that syntax works fine on my samba share
[02:30] <Creedence> in dvd drive but stops at the information part
[02:31] <cozmoz> I have an x-fi Fatal1ty soundcard
[02:31] <Creedence> will not boot in cd drive
[02:31] <Sylphid|netbook> red, did you reload samba after adding the users or changing the share permissions
[02:31] <Emanon> i think there is an option when the windows disc boots to repair an existing system
[02:31] <red> yes
[02:31] <Creedence> does not work
[02:31] <Creedence> tried it all
[02:31] <aberrant> re all
[02:31] <Emanon> oh doesnt boot at all hmm
[02:31] <Creedence> even went to dos and formatted there
[02:31] <red> they both can log in as long as i use nautilus :S
[02:31] <cozmoz> tried mixing alot with Alsamixer, not getting much result, not more than that my friends can hear themselves on Mangler
[02:31] <red> and the user and pass is accepted
[02:31] <Sylphid|netbook> red, what error does it give you
[02:32] <red> if its not accetped it returns a faulty login
[02:32] <red> if its accepted it reports share not  found
[02:32] <aberrant> I'm using karmic on a notebook w/o X - is there a way to change the size/dimension of the console?
[02:32] <red> but i can see with smbclient that it's all there
[02:32] <red> just mounting fails
[02:32] <Ganymede> soreau, i installed modalias 173 and "jockey?" did not offer any propriatery drivers so i installed all three non-transitional modalias packages and jockey still did not offer any proprietary drivers
[02:32] <Creedence> its a partition and i cannot get the other onw to boot
[02:32] <Creedence> one*
[02:32] <Emanon> oh you have a restore partition not a restore disk?
[02:33] <soreau> Ganymede: Hmm.. maybe you will have to install the glx package and manually set Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[02:33] <Creedence> well, i created the iso, played with it, and installed. created the partition in linux and now it will not dual boot
[02:33] <Ganymede> soreau, did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer ?
[02:33] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, got a minor question. Is there any way to get rid of icon labels on the desktop? I'm trying to have just the icons showing.
[02:33] <Ganymede> soreau, oh, whoops, sorry
[02:33] <caty> sidoarjo
[02:33] <Sylphid|netbook> red, your not trying to mount it inside of the share right? that would be a loop that may cause problems
[02:33] <enav> hello. i have a problem with my grub...  after install a new hdd and update my ubuntu the grub give an error  that disable my Windows entro at grub menu.... need some help  thanks... here is the console output  http://pastebin.com/TBCVZHdd
[02:33] <histo> I'm following the vimtutor Lesson 7.2 right now. Is there a way to do this without closing vim?
[02:34] <Ganymede> aberrant, did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer ?
[02:34] <aberrant> Ganymede: thanks
[02:34] <Creedence> i will give remote access if necessary, i am in a serious bind
[02:34] <Emanon> did you install simply shrinking the windows partition to fit ubuntu or did you install overwriting the windows partition?
[02:34] <caty> malang
[02:34] <Creedence> shrink
[02:35] <red> Sylphid|netbook: i got it to work now, oddly i had to use //serverip/firstfolder
[02:35] <amagee> i have this strange problem where my mouse cursor stays on the 'busy' animating cursor forever, on some windows
[02:35] <red> and firstfolder was myfiles
[02:35] <amagee> i've looked at this http://joeb454.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2656010 but that doesn't seem to be my problem
[02:35] <Creedence> i live it dont get me wrong but i need to have windows for my gaming
[02:35] <Creedence> love*
[02:36] <enav> amagee are you using the compiz effects?
[02:36] <amagee> no
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Creedence: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:36] <amagee> i'm using xmonad as my window manager if that's important
[02:36] <Creedence> how do i tell, i dl today
[02:36] <enav> amagee What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:36] <amagee> 9.10
[02:36] <Jordan_U> !version | Creedence
[02:36] <robertzaccour> i accidently deleted the volume control from the taskbar how do i get it back?
[02:37] <Emanon> chances are you have 9.10 Creedence
[02:37] <enav> amagee you have all your desktop effects disabled really?
[02:37] <amagee> robertzaccour: right-click the panel, click "add to panel..."
[02:37] <amagee> umm
[02:37] <amagee> enav: how do i make sure
[02:37] <robertzaccour> amagee, i did that and didn't see that in the selection
[02:37] <Redxross> Hello everyone.  I need to open a port so that I can install a program that listens on that port thus allowing the client to connect to it.  Can someone please point me in the right direction with this?
[02:38] <aberrant> I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst. :(
[02:38] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | aberrant
[02:38] <Creedence> well i copied and pasted what you put in and got nill
[02:38] <enav> amagee try this,   go to System-->Appearance-->Vissual Effects
[02:38] <aberrant> Jordan_U: will the console framebuffer stuff work with grub2?
[02:38] <Emanon> Creedence: idk how to do it in ubuntu but there is an option in the repair section of mandriva install disks to restore a windows mbr http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/?p=linux-free
[02:39] <amagee> enav: umm, there's no such thing
[02:39] <Xcell> http://pastebin.org/111452   any reccomendations  ?
[02:39] <amagee> there is system->preferences and system->visual effects
[02:39] <amagee> uh
[02:39] <Sylphid|netbook> Redxross, ubuntu does not ship with any firewall rules installed by default, have you added some?
[02:39] <amagee> there is system->preferences and system->administration
[02:39] <Redxross> Sylphid|netbook, no I haven't
[02:39] <amagee> sorry never mind that i'm just stupid
[02:39] <enav> amagee yep right  there
[02:40] <amagee> ok yeah it's on "None"
[02:40] <enav> try to enable  and next disable
[02:40] <amagee> robertzaccour: hmm yeah you seem to be right.. you've exhausted my expertise then, sorry :S
[02:40] <Sylphid|netbook> Redxross, then the program should be able to attach to any port and should be able to use it without any additional work on the box
[02:40] <amagee> ok
[02:40] <Redxross> Sylphid|netbook, the thing is I wrote this program in Java on Windows and I know that the server should run but its just exiting and since I am using some open source stuff I can't add any logging but thats the only thing that makes sense
[02:41] <Ze_M> where can i see the source packages?
[02:41] <acicula> Ze_M: apt-get source <packagename>
[02:41] <robertzaccour> amagee, i found it thanks
[02:41] <Ze_M> acicula: no, in www
[02:41] <enav> amagee done?
[02:41] <acicula> Ze_M: google the package name
[02:41] <acicula> packages.ubuntu.org probably
[02:41] <amagee> enav: i clicked "normal" and it did some stuff then said "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[02:42] <amagee> i'm not sure they work with xmonad
[02:42] <Ze_M> acicula: that address doesnt exist
[02:42] <robertzaccour> amagee, what kinda reply was that? lol
[02:42] <Jordan_U> aberrant: For grub2 just add "gfxpayload=1600x1200" ( or whatever resolution you want that is supported by VESA ) to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then run "sudo update-grub"
[02:42] <Creedence> downloading now ... thanks
[02:42] <enav> amagee go to system-->administration-->hardware drivers
[02:42] <Creedence> emanon
[02:42] <amagee> robertzaccour: what do you mean
[02:42] <teratorn>  what's the "best" way to allow clients on a LAN to dynamically open ports on a Linux NAT gateway? e.g. a uPnP implementation for iptables? what other protocols besides uPnP should I support?
[02:42] <aberrant> Jordan_U: thanks. that works even though I'm not using X or any other GUI?
[02:43] <teratorn> s/open/forward/
[02:43] <Emanon> hope u have another optical drive if your burning from a live disc
[02:43] <enav> amagee tell what do you see
[02:43] <robertzaccour> amagee, exhausted your expertise. sarcasm? lol
[02:43] <amagee> robertzaccour: lol, no, i just have fairly limited expertise in that area :P
[02:43] <Creedence> this is 4.3 g? that right?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> aberrant: Yes.
[02:43] <amagee> robertzaccour: where did you end up finding it?
[02:43] <robertzaccour> amagee, oh ok lol at first thought you were being a jerk lol
[02:44] <amagee> enav: i have the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver installed
[02:44] <amagee> robertzaccour: nah, sorry
[02:44] <Creedence> stopped the dl
[02:44] <Emanon> should be mandriva free 2010
[02:44] <enav> amagee only one option?
[02:44] <amagee> enav: yep
[02:44] <Creedence> sorry but i need help deleting whatever it is causing  me not to be able to dual boot. Ubuntu has my whole computer
[02:45] <enav> amagee that drive have the circle on green ... that means is in use
[02:45] <robertzaccour> amagee, right click panel>application launcher>accessories then scroll down
[02:45] <Jordan_U> Creedence: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub"?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Creedence
[02:45] <Creedence> how do i do that
[02:45] <aberrant> Jordan_U: hrm. console now blank after reboot. I don't think it liked "1024x768"
[02:45] <red> Sylphid|netbook: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2188345/samban900.png Behold. I'm sharing samba to my linux mobile phone over 3G (SSH-loopback tunnel) :)
[02:45] <Creedence> lol
[02:45] <Creedence> can u remote in?
[02:45] <Ganymede> soreau, thanks, i got it to work now and with correct resolution, i guess the solution was to just uninstall everything and clean out the xorg configs and start from scratch
[02:45] <enav> im having a problem with the update-grub
[02:45] <Emanon> Creedence: http://www2.mandriva.com/downloads/?get_iso&iso=mandriva-linux-free-dual-2010.iso&mirror=http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/mandriva/official/iso/2010.0
[02:46] <aberrant> let's figure out how to interrupt grub
[02:46] <Jordan_U> Creedence: If you have port forewarding enabled yes.
[02:46] <soreau> Ganymede: Oh cool
[02:46] <amagee> enav: yes, i know
[02:46] <Emanon> that should be an iso for the latest version of mandriva free which you can burn and run the restore windows mbr option its repair options
[02:46] <Sylphid|netbook> red, nice!
[02:47] <enav> amagee that is a driver problem... or some xconf bug or corruption.
[02:47] <Creedence> is there  a private chat?
[02:47] <robertzaccour> i'm thinkin about deleting the bottom panel and just using AWN. is it pretty stable?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> Creedence: Do *not* send a passwrod to me via IRC though.
[02:47] <Creedence> ok
[02:47] <Emanon> or you could get Jordan_U to help you repair the bootloader
[02:47] <amagee> enav: hmm, but i had the same problem on my nvidia card a few weeks ago
[02:48] <enav> amagee  on nvidia cards that problem happend after enable desktop effects and disable the original mouse cursor
[02:48] <amagee> hmm ok
[02:48] <amagee> what would you suggest i do?
[02:48] <aberrant> Hey Jordan_U - I'm stuck. Console blank, can't interrupt grub. Any ideas?
[02:49] <Jordan_U> Creedence: You can get my public ssh key from launchpad which will allow only me to login to your computer
[02:49] <enav> amagee in that case is easy to solve...  the only is needed to do is to disable some options at enhansed zoom
[02:50] <amagee> enav: but they're all disabled already
[02:50] <Creedence> where is that
[02:50] <enav> try deleting the actual xconf and creating a new one
[02:50] <Creedence> i dont know this stuff
[02:50] <amagee> hmm ok i'll try that
[02:50] <amagee> thanks enav
[02:50] <Creedence> im 43 years old and do not know computers that much
[02:50] <enav> amagee im know this is disable... that was the case of nvidia cards
[02:51] <enav> amagee i have some where the code to do that  hang on
[02:51] <Emanon> and i don't know cars Creedence we all have our strong and weak points
[02:51] <amagee> i'm reasonably ok with xorg.conf
[02:51] <Creedence> how u know that lol
[02:52] <Random832> >_<
[02:52] <Random832> stupid kernel image install scripts don't know how to deal with a non-grub system
[02:52] <enav> amagee: try this and restart -->   cd /etc/X11 && sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:52] <Creedence> can i click private chat?
[02:52] <Creedence> or u
[02:53] <enav> Creedence what happend buddy
[02:53] <Zenker> can someone tell me how to find out what password i set for my username in here?
[02:53] <amagee> enav: thanks
[02:53] <Creedence> i cannot boot windows at all
[02:53] <enav> that code just rewritte the xconf
[02:53] <Emanon> Jordan_U: is logging into Creedences' computer to attempt to repair his GRuB install i think
[02:53] <amagee> yeah
[02:54] <enav> Creedence why not
[02:54] <Creedence> dont know i need someone in here to fix it
[02:54] <Creedence> i am a big noob
[02:54] <enav> Creedence dont worry
[02:54] <Fandekasp> hi
[02:54] <enav> Creedence how many hdd you have
[02:54] <Alan502> Good day, I was looking for something similar to ms office publisher on linux, i'm looking for something to make pamphlets specifically. Do you know anything that can help?
[02:54] <Emanon> it'll get sorted out hehe
[02:54] <Creedence> call me creed or dave, my friends call me that
[02:55] <lantizia> If Canonical ever got a better offer from Google for the search box by the time of 10.10... would it dare push the change back in the 10.04 repo? :D
[02:55] <Creedence> hss is hard drive, =1
[02:55] <Creedence> hdd*
[02:55] <enav> Alan502: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Alternatives
[02:55] <aberrant> wow, got it back by editing blind
[02:55] <Zenker> oh i still have the conf email, is the string of letters/numbers after my name the password i set?
[02:55] <enav> Creedence you ahve only 1 harddrive?
[02:55] <aberrant> now to try again
[02:55] <natediddy> DROID DOES 3[02:55] <Emanon> Alan502: does ms publisher run in wine?
[02:55] <Creedence> i want to keep the linux but want to dual boot ... yes one
[02:56] <Creedence> but if it means erasing everthing thats fine too. im desperate
[02:56] <Alan502> Emanon, yes, it does, but not good enough
[02:56] <denis-k> natediddy: something you'll never be able to accomplish
[02:56] <Emanon> try scribus maybe Alan502
[02:56] <Alan502> Emanon, ok
[02:57] <natediddy> denis-k, lol
[02:57] <Alan502> !scribus
[02:57] <enav> Creedence ok.. i guess you ahve 1 disk with 2 partitions, 1th with linux, 2th with Windows  right?
[02:57] <natediddy> sorry had to do it
[02:57] <denis-k> Droid > every other mobile OS
[02:57] <natediddy> love this channel tho :) has helped me with a LOT
[02:57] <Creedence> 1 linux and 1 windows
[02:57] <Floods`> l
[02:57] <Creedence> partioned
[02:58] <denis-k> natediddy: usually does
[02:58] <enav> Creedence good...  open your console and type this --> sudo update-grub
[02:58] <sonder> hello
[02:58] <natediddy> im a linux newb
[02:58] <Emanon> for future reference http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[02:58] <natediddy> so i need all the help i can get :P
[02:58] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, got a minor question. Is there any way to get rid of icon labels on the desktop? I'm trying to have just the icons showing.
[02:59] <enav> Creedence:  next  copy and paste all the output here -->  http://pastebin.com/          press  submit and give the web link
[02:59] <enav> MasterofPuppets: for only 1 icon?   or all icons?
[03:00] <Monnikje> I'm wondering... How can I run grup 2 without a grup.cfg but with a menu.lst (I have a clean Ubuntu 9.10 install, and I was pointed out here that I thus already have grup 2 instead of grup legacy)
[03:00] <Creedence> ound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic-pae
[03:00] <Creedence> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic-pae
[03:00] <Creedence> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[03:00] <Creedence> done
[03:00] <FloodBot2> Creedence: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <glaucio> Eai Pessoal sou do Parana / Lapa
[03:00] <Emanon> grub Monnikje
[03:00] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: Not currently, but why would you want to?
[03:01] <enav> Creedence   use pastebin   is a web site to paste large codes
[03:01] <stevecam> is there a simple way to assign my shortcut keys for keys that havnt been assigned
[03:01] <Emanon> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Grub
[03:01] <Random832> why do kernel packages HARDCODE having to run update-grub?
[03:01] <Monnikje> I found a guide on how to enhance the boot menu graphically with for example a background image, which requires me to have grub 2 (or well, grup 1.97)
[03:01]  * Random832 just had an upgrade error out
[03:01] <stevecam> i try to set them in keyboard-shortcut but half of my multimedia keys will just do nothing
[03:01] <Emanon> if they can be detected stevecam
[03:02] <Emanon> System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:02] <red> im not tired
[03:02] <Emanon> select a task hit the key and your donw
[03:02] <red> and i have no more problems to solve
[03:02] <Emanon> done*
[03:02] <stevecam> Emanon, they can be seen by the kernel, but they havn't been assigned
[03:02] <red> someone suggest me something i could use on my pc which takes a moment to set up properly
[03:02] <enav>  Creedence  goto    http://paste.ubuntu.com    and paste the console outpu there   next press submit and next copy and paste the weblink   here
[03:02] <red> :)
[03:03] <Spirits-Sight> how can I get a windows device to show up as a storage device on my ubuntu system?
[03:03] <Creedence> done
[03:03] <Monnikje> Emanon: when I entered this channel, I was immediately pointed out I should have grup 2 instead of grup because I've got a clean 9.10 install
[03:03] <Emanon> as long as they can be seen you can assign them in keyboard shortcuts i think
[03:03] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: What does that have to do with using menu.lst syntax instead of grub2 grub.cfg syntax?
[03:03] <Creedence> submitted
[03:03] <ultraparadigm> Anyone heard of anyone who has had luck getting a wireless display to work in Ubuntu?
[03:03] <stevecam> keyboard shortcuts is nice, but it only does half of the job of setting up my shortcuts, its more of a hotkey manager
[03:03] <Creedence> mine works and i have no clue what i am doing lol
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Creedence: You need to give us the link.
[03:04] <enav> Creedence i need the website addres
[03:04] <Creedence> crap
[03:04] <Creedence> hold on
[03:04] <Emanon> oh they can be seen but havnt been designated (XF86Home etc)
[03:04] <Emanon> i got you
[03:04] <Monnikje> well, I should have to edit 05_debian_theme, which is missing. I should also edit /etc/default/grub, which is also missing. Both are present after I install grub 1.97
[03:04] <stevecam> yeah
[03:04] <Monnikje> but that is giving errors during the install
[03:04] <ultraparadigm> anyone here ever heard of a wireless display?
[03:04] <Floods`> quit
[03:05] <Emanon> so they cant be turned into shortcuts until they have been given a label got ya
[03:05] <Emanon> sec i read about this a while back ill find the manual for ya
[03:05] <enav> ultraparadigm   try wifiradar
[03:05] <stevecam> Emanon, is there a GUI to do this?
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: What error? What install?
[03:05] <Creedence> its doing something
[03:06] <Creedence> dont know where to get it m8
[03:07] <Creedence> just pm jordan
[03:07] <aberrant> Jordan_U: FYI - it's /etc/defaults/console-setup - nothing to do w/ grub
[03:07] <Zenker> anyone know how to findout/change my password for this room?
[03:07] <Spirits-Sight> any ideas of how to get win ce device to show as a storage device like USB device? NOT intersted in syncing any thing but being able to copy and move and delete files?
[03:07] <ultraparadigm> enav,  thanks!  you think that might work with a wireless display?  Have you hear of anyone using it for that purpose?
[03:07] <Monnikje> when upgrading grub 0.97 to grub 1.97 I get the following errors:
[03:08] <Monnikje> grub-probe: error: no mapping exists for `nvidia_dgcefiej2' (which is the second partition on my raid-0 hdd, also the partition containing Ubuntu 9.10)
[03:08] <enav> wireless display?  what is that
[03:08] <Creedence> my gosh, never thought you tube coolness would turn out like this..... hahah
[03:08] <Monnikje> Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed.
[03:08] <Monnikje> Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly.
[03:08] <enav> Creedence  hang on
[03:08] <Monnikje> dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):
[03:09] <Monnikje> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:09] <Monnikje> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: Try installing grub 1.98 from lucid .
[03:09] <Creedence> yep got all night.. gotta fix my system
[03:09] <Emanon> stevecam: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys
[03:09] <Emanon> its targeted towards Arch users but still relevant
[03:09] <Creedence> cant someone come in my comp and fix this?
[03:09] <Monnikje> how do I do that? I'm totally new to Ubuntu, and I haven't encountred lucid yet
[03:10] <enav> Creedence do you mean remote assitance
[03:10] <Creedence> yes
[03:10] <enav> come to private chat
[03:10] <ultraparadigm> enav,  a wireless display is a monitor., or TV adapter that takes an audio/video signal from a computer wirelessly
[03:10] <temoto> Hello. I have following line in /etc/security/limits.conf:  *   hard   rss    2048000   and ulimit -a shows that. Does this setting guarantee that no program will ever consume more than 2 gigs of memory?
[03:10] <Emanon> and further to that stevecam http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keytouch
[03:10] <ultraparadigm> Basically a wireless monitorr
[03:11] <enav> Creedence doble click over my name
[03:11] <ultraparadigm> I guess it's pretty new, probably no support out there for it right now.  I'll be stuck with windows for that I guess
[03:11] <stevecam> Emanon, thanks
[03:12] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: Download http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/grub-pc and http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/grub-common to a directory then run "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/directory/*.deb"
[03:12] <enav> ultraparadigm never heart that before
[03:12] <Zenker> ultraparadigm are you using wi-fi and a display adapter or ecactly what hardware are u trying to use to get the signal from the puter to the monitor?
[03:13] <Monnikje> does it matter to which directory I download it (for example, should I put it in the boot dir?)
[03:14] <Jordan_U> Monnikje: It just needs to be a directory without any other .deb files in it. The downloads directory is probably fine.
[03:14] <Redxross> has anyone ever loaded multiple .jar files from the command line in unix?
[03:14] <dlynes> Anyone on at the moment that's familiar with preseeding a ubuntu install?
[03:15] <dlynes> Redxross, that's done using your classpath (java -cp)
[03:16] <Redxross> dlynes, ya but i need to load a whole bunch of .jar files and no wildcards are allowed right?
[03:16] <Monnikje> ok, thanks Jordan_U. I'll try it
[03:16] <dlynes> Redxross, so?
[03:17] <Redxross> dlynes, i don't want to write a classpath with a list of 12 jar files
[03:17] <Redxross> dlynes, need a better way of doing that =(
[03:17] <Emanon> stevecam omg just downloaded and am trying keytouch editor this is just a preliminary assessment but in my humble opinion "IT EFFIN ROCKS!"
[03:18] <xiven> Hello
[03:18] <stevecam> xD
[03:18] <xiven> I wanted to check if there is currently any developers needed for Ubuntu
[03:18] <Emanon> YES
[03:18] <dlynes> Redxross, for file in *.jar; do if [ "${CLASSPATH}" == "" ]; then $CLASSPATH=$file ; else $CLASSPATH=${CLASSPATH}:${file} ; fi ; done ; java -cp ${CLASSPATH} my.java.class
[03:18] <xiven> Which languages are needed?
[03:18] <Redxross> dlynes, WOW YOU ROCK!
[03:18] <Emanon> xiven: there are ALWAYS devs needed for every language
[03:19] <Emanon> sec let me get you a link
[03:19] <Prestidigitonium> im trying to install ubuntu server to my microsd card but i think its trying to set up the swap on it too. how can i prevent that?
[03:19] <xiven> Welll, I'm not a pro at any language..but if I an get something that isn't too big...I'm willing to do some coding
[03:19] <Jordan_U> dlynes: You don't use '$' in front of variable names when setting them.
[03:19] <Emanon> xiven: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[03:19] <xiven> Out of curiosity, any paid positions?
[03:19] <dlynes> Jordan_U, good point
[03:20] <dlynes> Jordan_U, my mistake
[03:20] <xiven> I've been curious if Canonical hires, or just donates lol
[03:20] <Flannel> xiven: Paid positions are here: http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/
[03:21] <dlynes> Redxross, as Jordan_U mentioned, the ${CLASSPATH}/$CLASSPATH on the left side of the assignments should be CLASSPATH, instead (no curly braces, and no dollar sign)
[03:21] <Redxross> dlynes, could i specify the folder in which the *.jar files are in by for file in \workspace\project\lib\*.jar; do if [ "${CLASSPATH}" == "" ]; then $CLASSPATH=$file ; else $CLASSPATH=${CLASSPATH}:${file} ; fi ; done ; java -cp ${CLASSPATH} my.java.class
[03:21] <xiven> Okay, I am checking both
[03:22] <dlynes> Redxross, wait a second here...are you in linux, or windows?
[03:22] <Redxross> dlynes, linx
[03:22] <Redxross> dlynes, linux*
[03:22] <dlynes> Redxross, then why are you using '\' for a path separator instead of '/'?
[03:22] <Prestidigitonium> i dont understand this install process :-(
[03:22] <Redxross> dlynes, oh oops
[03:23] <dlynes> Redxross, and yes you can give the file as a full path
[03:23] <Emanon> care to elaborate Prestidigitonium?
[03:23] <Spirits-Sight> any ideas of how to get win ce device to show as a storage device like USB device? NOT intersted in syncing any thing but being able to copy and move and delete files?
[03:23] <Monnikje> Jordan_U: Thanks! this doesn't give me the errors while installing. I'll try fiddling around after I get some sleep, but I'm sure it'll be fine now
[03:23] <Redxross> dlynes, just trying to make sense of the ${'s thing
[03:24] <Prestidigitonium> well, im trying to install ubuntu server to my microsd card. but i dont want my swap on it too
[03:24] <subham> hello every body can any body can help me in one aspect i am trying to install an plug's in firefox to view some of the content from an on line library  and that plugin is dependent on qt3 can any body can tell me what should i install from repos ... so that it demand can be fulfilled any help would be of great help
[03:24] <dlynes> Redxross, sometimes you need to use '${....}' instead of '$...', so that the shell isn't interpreting neighboring characters as part of the variable
[03:24] <Fandekasp> hi
[03:24] <xiven> Does the Design category mean, for example...improving application GUI's?
[03:24] <Redxross> dlynes,  oh i see
[03:24] <its-me-again> hi has anyone got reprap to work on ubuntu
[03:24] <Emanon> xivin i think so
[03:24] <Fandekasp> Does someone know svn and could help me for a post commit hook problem  ? thank you in advance
[03:25] <dlynes> Redxross, ${VARNAME} or $VARNAME will substitute in the value of the variable, 'VARNAME'
[03:25] <Prestidigitonium> i want to set up a mem disk for swap. then use unifs or whatever its called to mount partitions if they are available
[03:25] <red> dlynes: does the shell disticnt betweeen "" and '' and if use '' then can u do ' . $variable . ' like in php?
[03:25] <xiven> I think I might be able to do the most help with bug fixing though
[03:25] <Redxross> dlynes, oh its a way to set values?
[03:25] <dlynes> red, yes, it does
[03:25] <red> ok nice
[03:25] <Emanon> i dont think an install requires a swap partition it is just reccomended
[03:25] <red> just peaked my interest
[03:25] <dlynes> red, and you cannot use '.' like in php, either
[03:25] <Emanon> so you can tell it to go without i think Prestidigitonium
[03:25] <red> k
[03:25] <Prestidigitonium> i then want to install a gui on there when ubuntu server has completed install
[03:25] <jrib> Fandekasp: try #svn
[03:26] <dlynes> red, it's shell scripting, not php or perl
[03:26] <xiven> Like I said..I'm not a pro at any language..but with bug fixing I could probably be more productive
[03:26] <amagee> umm, won't '$var' come out as literally '$var'?  you need double quotes for the variable to be expanded
[03:26] <Prestidigitonium> oh you mean manual install mode?
[03:26] <Fandekasp> jrib : they sleep on #svn ^^
[03:26] <xiven> Which one, the design or bug fixing is shell?
[03:26] <Emanon> manual partitioning at least Prestidigitonium
[03:26] <Redxross> I should learn shell scripting
[03:26] <jrib> Fandekasp: be patient, not every channel is as busy as this one
[03:26] <xiven> Heh..I don't know any shell scripting
[03:27] <Fandekasp> yep ok :)
[03:27] <xiven> very basic bash maybe, although that should be easy to learn..
[03:27] <dlynes> Redxross, VARNAME=value is for left side of assignments...  if [ "${VARNAME}" == "VALUE" ];  is for using the value of the varaible
[03:27] <dlynes> s/varaible/variable/
[03:27] <git__> i learn bash scripting by having a problem I want to solve
[03:27] <xiven> What kind of deadlines fall into bug fixing?
[03:27] <git__> i learn faster that way
[03:28] <Redxross> dlynes, so can you fix that script you wrote out for me?
[03:28] <Emanon> xiven asap generally
[03:28] <Xarver> I have this strange sound problem. I have my earbuds plugged in because I wanted to listen to a video. When I unplug them the sound doesn
[03:28] <Redxross> dlynes, this way i can see the difference
[03:28] <dlynes> Redxross, the bash man page is a good start, as is 'learning the bash shell', from O'reilly
[03:28] <Xarver> doesn't work, only the earbuds.
[03:28] <Redxross> dlynes, i'll get it
[03:28] <xiven> lol...but surely its a develop in my off-time kinda thing..
[03:28] <Emanon> Xarver: need to switch output port
[03:28] <Prestidigitonium> but i thought linux must have a swap partition?
[03:28] <dlynes> Redxross, for file in *.jar; do if [ "${CLASSPATH}" == "" ]; then CLASSPATH=$file ; else CLASSPATH=${CLASSPATH}:${file} ; fi ; done ; java -cp ${CLASSPATH} my.java.class
[03:29] <Redxross> dlynes, man thank you once more, you are the man!
[03:29] <Emanon> i dont think so Prestidigitonium just recommended for performance
[03:29] <Emanon> but you may be right
[03:29] <xiven> I don't have much free time, but I'm wanting to fill my hobby coding time with something
[03:29] <Xarver> Emanon, ?
[03:29] <Prestidigitonium> ah. ok cool
[03:29] <Redxross> dlynes, i'll def download the O'Reilly
[03:29] <Emanon> you could try to make it force a ramdisk for swap
[03:30] <dlynes> Redxross, you can also learn more by joining #awk, #bash, #sed, #grep, ##linux
[03:30] <xiven> Besides, it'd help others, grow my experience..and it'd be pretty cool to know I have written code/code changes which run in ubuntu lol
[03:30] <Emanon> that seems redundant but if it foreces you to have swap you can at least make it common to any computeryou plug into
[03:30] <Redxross> dlynes, sweet =)
[03:30] <dlynes> Redxross, and just sit quietly in the background soaking in what everyone talks about
[03:30] <Emanon> Xarver: what i meant is it seems when you unplug it doesnt switch back to your speakers so you may need to manually switch the output
[03:30] <xiven> What's the enrollment process, just download something, fix, and upload for review?
[03:31] <its-me-again> anyone able to get reprap to run on ubuntu
[03:31] <shahin> how does ubuntu with compiz enabled run on an old XP2500+, 2048mb ddr, ati radeon 9600pro? should i install regular ubuntu or should i try xubuntu?
[03:32] <Xarver> Emanon, How do I do that?
[03:32] <dlynes> Am I the only person in this channel that's tried to do preseeding?
[03:32] <Emanon> right click on the volume control in system tray
[03:32] <Emanon> click sound preferences
[03:33] <Emanon> hit output tab
[03:33] <Emanon> and fiddle till it works
[03:34] <Grogyan> does anyone here know how to get the RepRap host to run under Linux?
[03:34] <Xarver> Emanon, there are much settings...
[03:34] <Emanon> doesnt seem so Grogyan
[03:34] <xiven> The website makes it sound so much like a regular job. No one gets money for volunteer do they? Heh.
[03:35] <pocock> i wrote an SH file, made it executable, and now have my crontab successfully set to run it on boot.. what i can't get is for it to run every 5 minutes, any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:35] <Lta> Hello guys, i was running an up to date karmic and updated to lucid, after running an update-initramfs -u -k all, my system doesn't boot anymore, mountall complains it doesn't found libplybootclient.so.2. It's quite annoying as my system is unusable. Is this a know issue ? If not, where should i file this in laucnhpad ?
[03:35] <Emanon> Xarver try the radial buttons or the dropdown menu at the bottom of the output tab
[03:36] <its-me-again> !ask | Grogyan
[03:36] <jrib> !cron > pocock
[03:36] <Xarver> Emanon, there's only one radio button and no settings work
[03:36] <Grogyan> Can anyone help me to get the RepRap host sotware to run under ubuntu 9.1?
[03:37] <Grogyan> or know what i'm doing wrong?
[03:37] <Emanon> idk then Xarver sorry
[03:37] <Xarver> :|
[03:37] <pocock> jrib: i've been there. the problem isnt with the cron as far as i can tell
[03:37] <jrib> pocock: what's your cron line?
[03:37] <xiven> I would think about applying to remote Paid jobs...but I wouldn't want to bite off too much and end up getting fired He He
[03:37] <pocock> */15 * * * * change.sh & @reboot change.sh
[03:38] <pocock> the reboot works fine
[03:38] <kris__> Hi. Is there a CLI interface to NetworkManager?
[03:38] <CAPcap> if i added a monitor and changed the settings what file would that settings be saved in (it prompted me and i just let it do its thing and now I'm having problems)
[03:38] <its-me-again> Grogyan: test did you get it
[03:38] <xiven> Hey....is there a seperate development team for UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudio's GDM and/or USplash stuff?
[03:38] <jrib> pocock: where is change.sh?  You should give absolute paths
[03:38] <pocock> sorry, its in /bin
[03:39] <dlynes> xiven, what's UbuntuStudio?
[03:39] <jrib> pocock: is the "&" part of your file?
[03:39] <pocock> no
[03:39] <its-me-again> !ask | Grogyan
[03:39] <pocock> each one is on a separate line
[03:39] <xiven> Ok
[03:39] <jrib> pocock: in that order?
[03:39] <CAPcap> ! UbuntuStudio
[03:39] <dlynes> oh
[03:39] <xiven> I asked because there is something about the UbuntuStudio usplash theme that really needs fixed.
[03:40] <pocock> no, sorry, the @reboot is above the timed version
[03:40] <Emanon> he IS asking just no one knows how to help him
[03:40] <jrib> pocock: do you have a final newline in your crontab?
[03:40] <Emanon> asking how to make a program run IS a question
[03:40] <pocock> a wha?
[03:40] <jrib> pocock: an empty line at the end
[03:40] <its-me-again> has anyone been able to get reprap working on ubuntu 9.10
[03:40] <jrib> pocock: (you need one)
[03:40] <Grogyan> When I run the RepRap linux script, the repRap host begins to start then quits before displaying the GUI
[03:41] <xiven> What kind of a network might Ubuntu have for sales of software created?
[03:41] <aldhi> hjjhj
[03:41] <pocock> sec
[03:41] <ultraparadigm> Is there something special that I have to do to get the HDMI output to send a signal to my TV?
[03:41] <Grogyan> I don't know why or find any information as to why it won't run
[03:41] <CAPcap> if i added a monitor and changed the settings what file would that settings be saved in (it prompted me and i just let it do its thing and now I'm having problems)
[03:41] <TxMatt> I have a question...Whats a goood dvd burning tool i can get from the repositories??
[03:41] <Emanon> Grogyan: you try sudo?
[03:42] <CAPcap> TxMatt whats wrong with Brasero?
[03:42] <Grogyan> you mkean sudo reprap?
[03:42] <Emanon> TxMatt: brasero k3b and about 30,000 others
[03:42] <kris__> Hi. Is there a CLI interface to NetworkManager?
[03:42] <Emanon> yes Grogyan
[03:42] <Moon_Doggy> how do i set up ssh and get a windows computer to connect to it over the internet
[03:42] <TxMatt> LOL. i didnt see that.
[03:42] <TxMatt> i'll try it.
[03:43] <xiven> So, why would all bug fixes be in shell script, aren't there more bugs then just the shell scripts?
[03:43] <dlynes> kris__, only one i know of is sudo apt-get remove network-manager && vi /etc/network/interfaces && /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:43] <mapid> I'm a happy camper using Ubuntu, but I wonder how to change the display resolution. I see no place in 'System' to change that
[03:43] <Grogyan> sudo reprap doesn't execute
[03:43] <Grogyan> command not found
[03:43] <kris__> dlynes: Thank you.
[03:43] <Emanon> System>Preferences>Display mapid
[03:43] <drbe4t> hey i need help my ubuntu can't find http://ppa.launchpad.net/dt/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[03:43] <CAPcap> mapid: System>Preferences>Display
[03:43] <dlynes> kris__, I'm guessing you installed ubuntu without a gui?
[03:44] <Curly_Q> I am in root via SSH. I am in the directory: /usr/share/apache2/default-site#    I would like to allow drag and drop from the SSH client to that directory. What is the chown or the command for that?
[03:44] <mapid> Emanon, CAPcap, they're dimmed out
[03:44] <jrib> Curly_Q: you're root... it doesn't matter.  You can drag and drop anywhere
[03:44] <kris__> dlynes: No. Just need to re-install my graphics driver in order to get Xorg to work, yet I have to have X up in order to start NetworkManager ... Catch22.
[03:44] <Curly_Q> I would much rather give the main <user> that authority without being in root.