[12:14] <WaltherFI> ionite_: try typing jockey-gtk on the terminal or the unity shell if you're running 11.04
[12:14] <bteres> dr_willis: Sorry, my connection dropped. The _restore stuff is in System Volume Information. I think its Windows stuff. Not too sure
[12:14] <ubuntu__1> Plz help me out
[12:14] <Pici> ubuntu__1: This sounds like a hardware issue to me, why do you think this is Ubuntu related?
[12:14] <ionite_> WaltherFI: why i'm puzzled is that why does nvidia allow a driver that doesn't work on natty or is it natty cannot handle the old graphics card?
[12:15] <ionite_> and why is natty so laggy or is it really my video card that's giving all these visual lag?
[12:15] <daan> Hi, I've just installed irssi, but I don't know how to scroll up to see previous messages.
[12:15] <Pici> daan: page-up, also #irssi for more help.
[12:15] <llutz> daan: pgup
[12:15] <daan> Ok, thanx
[12:16] <llutz> daan: http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[12:16] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me?
[12:16] <ionite_> why can't i change my monitor resolution on natty?
[12:17] <WaltherFI> ionite_: well, nvidia does allow you to install thw drivers, but ubuntu can't support every driver version of every gpu so i'd go with the recommended drivers from jockey-gtk
[12:17] <ionite_> so what do i type at the terminal to use jockey-gtk?
[12:17] <WaltherFI> ionite_: and i'm sure that when you'll have the correct, functioning drivers on, you can change your resolution
[12:17] <Pici> ionite_: just that
[12:18] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i'm totally noob to terminal and just came out from the cluthes of Windows XP pro. please advise me.
[12:19] <WaltherFI> ionite_: you can find the jockey app from the menu also. It is called 'Additional drivers' or something similar
[12:19] <WaltherFI> ionite_: or, just type jockey-gtk to the terminal and press enter
[12:19] <aetas> ionite_, Im gonna show you this wonderful command "dpkg -L jockey-gtk" will list all files owned by that package
[12:20] <aetas> can use that to find where it puts things
[12:20] <ebanias>  Hi. Can I pull files off a windows hdd, put them on a ubuntu hdd, and then transfer them to another windows hdd.. or are the file systems not compatable enough to do this?
[12:20] <aetas> no, it'll work if you have NTFS support
[12:20] <WaltherFI> aetas: ionite_ won't need it
[12:20] <ionite_> all i wanna do is to just make sure i can change my monitor resolution to my monitor display capability and also solve the lag.
[12:20] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:21] <DiploCat> 11.04 is entirely disappointing
[12:21] <WaltherFI> ionite_: Yeah, so pop up a terminal and type jockey-gtk and press enter
[12:21] <ionite_> alright my terminal is opened now.
[12:21] <WaltherFI> ionite_: and then, doubleclick the 'current' driver, let it install it
[12:21] <ebanias>  thanks aetas
[12:21] <aetas> WaltherFI, he needs to know how to use his OS or do you disagree
[12:21] <WaltherFI> aetas: sure, but for a person who just wants to set a correct resolution it is unnecessary to know 'what's under the hood'
[12:22] <WaltherFI> ionite_: Did the additional drivers thing pop up?
[12:22] <aetas> WaltherFI, that sounds more like laziness
[12:22] <ionite_> aetas: mesa-util is already the newest version
[12:23] <kamidi> aetas: give me a break. not everyone want to know whats under the hood. many people just want their system to be functional
[12:23] <ebanias>   just started using ubuntu, wow this built in chat client , empathy, leaves much to be desired lol
[12:23] <Tyrnis> plop all
[12:23] <WaltherFI> ionite_: did you open the jockey-gtk?
[12:23] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i already had my latest driver installed.
[12:23] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: What I attempted to ask ionite_ before was if they reboot after successfully installing the correct driver. Got no answer though.
[12:23] <ionite_> WaltherFI: yes.
[12:24] <aetas> kamidi, then tell me, if he installs a package how is he going to know what it provides if he doesn't come in here and ask you guys?
[12:24] <ionite_> DistroJockey: it rebooted fine?
[12:24] <WaltherFI> ionite_: did you install the 'nvidia-current' from there
[12:24] <ionite_> WaltherFI: how do i install current from additional drivers?
[12:24] <DistroJockey> ionite_: I am asking the question.
[12:24] <rigved> chrisg4u: you can try on #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[12:24] <kamidi> aetas: true, but after he has installed propriatary display drivers, issue is solved, no need to ask questions about that anymore
[12:24] <WaltherFI> ionite_: doubleclick the driver on the list that is labeled current and recommended
[12:25] <aetas> kamidi, I didnt show him that command just so he can get this one thing running, I showed it so he could do this in the future
[12:25] <ionite_> DistroJockey: it rebooted but i still cant change my resolution even after a successful installation of linux nvidia driver.
[12:25] <DistroJockey> ionite_: Ok, ty for answering. Carry on :)
[12:25] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: ionite installed newest drivers from nvidia website, probably the reason
[12:25] <kamidi> aetas: yes i know you've got point there but still, sometimes it's just easier and more productive to tell how to fix the problem
[12:25] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: That they did
[12:25] <mang0> Catcha later guys, I'm off to play tennis :)
[12:26] <aetas> kamidi, he already got the resolution from another user, why would I reiterate
[12:26] <oCean> aetas: enough, let's move on
[12:26] <Mrokii> Hello. I am looking for an OCR-software that turns scans into searcheable PDF-documents.
[12:26] <Mrokii> Or images.
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey Folks
[12:26] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:27] <ionite_> WaltherFI: on my additional driver screen there's no current or recommended buttons
[12:27] <slinzex> Hi, got a question > why cannot download wget -r http://photoshop.demiart.ru/
[12:27] <WaltherFI> ionite_: there should be a list of drivers, one of which has 'current' in its name
[12:27] <ionite_> WaltherFI: i'll do a print screen for yer.
[12:27] <Incarus6> !ocr | Mrokii
[12:28] <WaltherFI> ionite_: great
[12:28] <sysdoc> !voice recognition
[12:29] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: can you help them out, i should be going
[12:29] <slinzex> I can't install themes for pidgin . This command fail  cd ~/ && bzr branch lp:~spoidar/pidgin-webkit/karmic-fixes
[12:29] <slinzex> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~spoidar/pidgin-webkit/karmic-fixes": No such person or team: spoidar
[12:29] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:29] <ansumanb> What is the version of python in ubuntu 11.04
[12:29] <Pici> slinzex: Sounds like the branch no longer exists.
[12:30] <WaltherFI> ansumanb: pop up a terminal, write python -v
[12:30] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: I'll, try. Not much left in me tonight either but I've been watching them for the last 2 hours with thiss. Be well :)
[12:30] <Pici> ansumanb: 2.7
[12:30] <luoshu> python 2.7
[12:30] <ansumanb> Ahaa thanks
[12:30] <ionite> WaltherFI: how do i send u my print screen?
[12:31] <WaltherFI> ionite: i'm sorry, i've got to go now, but i'm sure there are other people around here who can help you out too
[12:31] <Pici> ansumanb: python2.5 and 2.6 are also in the repos, as is 3.1 and 3.2
[12:31] <DistroJockey> ionite: upload it to something like tinypic.com
[12:31] <ionite> WaltherFI: Will any kind soul help me please?
[12:31] <WaltherFI> DistroJockey: thanks, and have a great night too
[12:31] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: ty :)
[12:32] <ebanias>  Supposedly ubuntu usually comes with built in orca (text to speech program).  Also when i check the software section it shows orca as being installed, but i can't for the life of me figure out how to launch it.
[12:32] <Bomster> Anyone in the UK reccomend a good ISP?
[12:32] <WaltherFI> Someone help ionite: wrong resolution after nvidia driver install from nvidia website, can't fallback for recommended
[12:32] <oCean> Bomster: that has nothing to do wiht #ubuntu
[12:32] <oCean> *with
[12:32] <WaltherFI> and now, bye all
[12:32] <Pici> !ot | Bomster
[12:32] <ansumanb> so is there any way to switch between them?
[12:33] <ionite> WaltherFI: thanks
[12:33] <Bomster> I know, I just cant find an active channel to ask the question. Apologies.
[12:33] <DistroJockey> WaltherFI: Cheers, goodnight :)
[12:33] <ebanias>  can anyone tell me how to launch orca(text reader) in ubuntu?
[12:33] <ndxtg> I once run "export http_proxy=..." on command line at work, now at home my terminal cannot connect at all, does anyone know how to reverse?
[12:33] <ThinkT510> ebanias: tried typing it from the terminal?
[12:33] <donato> it
[12:33] <oCean> !it | donato
[12:33] <WaltherFI> ionite: try copypasting that line over here until someone helps, it contains some helpful information about your issue so it's easier for people to help you
[12:34] <donato> IT ?
[12:34] <Pici> ansumanb: I wouldn't do it globally, as many things in Ubuntu use python, and may require a specific version.  You can use #!/usr/bin/env python2.5   (or whatever) at the top of your scripts to force a particular version (assuming you have that installed of course)
[12:34] <donato> o.k.
[12:34] <ansumanb> OK
[12:34] <ansumanb> Thanks a lot.
[12:35] <Pici> Bomster: You could try #ubuntu-uk
[12:35] <Bomster> kk, cheers :)
[12:35] <ionite> wrong resolution after nvidia driver install from nvidia website, can't fallback for recommended
[12:35] <ionite> DistroJockey: inypic.com/r/aeb80h/7
[12:36] <donato> questa è la "Ubuntu" ?
[12:36] <ionite> DistroJockey: http://tinypic.com/r/aeb80h/7
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> hey guys sorry for posting here but, what's a good internet traffic analyzer for windows7 ?
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> my PC keeps slowing down internet connection and i don't know why;(
[12:36] <jinjonBoo> not virus or spyware
[12:36] <ebanias>  thanks ThinkT510 it seems to have launched an option dialog and says it will launch it next time i log in.  But it sounds like something that talks as you type, i was more looking for something that would read selected text.  :P
[12:36] <Incarus6> !ot | jinjonBoo
[12:37] <aetas> what are you guys generally using for DVD burning?
[12:37] <ionite> DistroJockey: u got the link?
[12:37] <jinjonBoo> ok Incarus6 sorry :)
[12:37] <aetas> images specifically
[12:37] <DistroJockey> ionite: Activated but not currently in use Nvidia driver is a little outside my area atm. Sorry
[12:37] <albech> what the IRC channel for OpenOffice?
[12:37] <albech> !openoffice
[12:38] <ThinkT510> ebanias: sorry, i've never needed that funcunality and haven't used orca myself so i wouldn't know what to recomend to you
[12:38] <Incarus6> ionite, have you tried to remove the driver in jockey and enable it again?
[12:38] <ionite> why does banshee plays weird noises? and why i smy comp so lag?
[12:38] <DistroJockey> ionite: The only thing I can suggest is to hit that Remove button and reboot and then go back there and try again. But there may be better ways.
[12:39] <chenthu> Try to install 64bit 11.04 (direct)-fail, 11.04(alternate)-fail, 10.04 LTS(Dierct)-Fail, 10.04 LTS (Alternate)-Fail....all these fails inspite of trying for almost 6 days following every bit of instructions from other users and volunteers from here and on forums and in help manuals....still fail....what to do?....I am fed up ..... :(...But thank you very much for all your support....many of...
[12:39] <chenthu> ...you here were really helpful...
[12:39] <ionite> Incarus6: i dun even know how to use a jockey and my whole comp is lag after installing natty. i dun know where went wrong.
[12:39] <Incarus6> ionite, sounds like your computer is using the nouveau driver, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:39] <ebanias>  that's alright ThinkT510.. i just came over to ubuntu from windows.. i know a nice one  that i can use with wine
[12:40] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i paste? please help me as i'm a noob to natty here.
[12:40] <Incarus6> !paste | ionite
[12:41] <ionite> Incarus6: no i mean, how do i paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[12:41] <aetas> ionite, you're in X or terminal?
[12:41] <ionite> aetas: what's X?
[12:41] <oguncak> hi friends. i lost my "gnome settings" entry in ubuntu-tweak. how can i take that back?
[12:41] <aetas> ionite, the GUI
[12:41] <Incarus6> inoite, open the file in a editor like gedit and copy and paste the content to a site like paste.ubuntu.com and give the the link ;)
[12:42] <ebanias>  btw i can't believe how nice ubuntu is.. coming from vista .. it's such a pleasant surprise
[12:42] <ebanias>  and free .. :P
[12:42] <ionite> aetas: i'm on the mainframe of natty?
[12:42] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:42] <ionite> Incarus6: open what file in the editor?
[12:43] <aetas> ionite, X is the graphical system for linux.  It draws all the pretty windows and stuff on your screen.  Terminal conversely is the text-only screen
[12:43] <ionite> aetas: i'm on X
[12:43] <Incarus6> inoite, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or type in the terminal "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log")
[12:43] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[12:43] <ionite> ionite: thanks! i really need this kinda specific instructions because i'm totally noob to natty
[12:44] <aetas> ionite, sometimes we have to know beforehand because things in X and terminal are done differently
[12:44] <Incarus6> ionite, Natty is just the developement name of version 11.04 ;) the general name is Ubuntu (11.04)
[12:44] <ionite> Incarus6: so how do i paste the whole chunk of text where?
[12:45] <ionite> aetas: so any idea how i can solve the lag problem and the banshee prob sound card prob?
[12:45] <ebanias>  if i'm in version 10.x of ubuntu, any importance to upgrade to 11?
[12:45] <aetas> ionite, you'll need to put it into the pastebin website and paste the link here
[12:45] <Incarus6> ionite, paste the content in the following textfield, press submit and give me the new link: http://pastebin.com/
[12:46] <ionite> aetas: ok. please take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[12:46] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[12:47] <Incarus6> ionite, the proprietary nvidia driver seems to be working properly (I suppose its the one from nvidia.com
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, Im running nvidia driver 275.19, you have 173.14.30
[12:48] <ionite> Incarus6: So whats should I do?
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, dpkg -l nvidia-current
[12:48] <aetas> ionite, run that in a terminal please
[12:48] <ionite> aetas: alright.. sounds alien to me. but anyway, so how do i go about to fix my resolution?
[12:49] <aetas> ionite, gonna grab a soda while you do that
[12:49] <VagaBand> #c++
[12:49] <ionite> aetas: No packages found matching nvidia-current.
[12:50] <ionite> Incarus6: No packages found matching nvidia-current.
[12:50] <renaldocreative> Hello everyone
[12:50] <DistroJockey> aetas: ionite is running a legacy card, hence the version number difference
[12:50] <oguncak> hi. i backed-up my files using deja-dup on an external hd. after i format my computer, can i restore those files using deja-dup again?
[12:50] <Incarus6> aetas, the proprietary driver from nvidia.com isn't called nvidia-current
[12:51] <aetas> Incarus6, I know.  I run the nvidia-current one and I wanted to see if it was installed
[12:51] <aetas> DistroJockey, you know which one he has?
[12:51] <chrisg4u> can anyone help me figure out why thunderbird keeps crashing?
[12:51] <Incarus6> ionite, have you tried to choose "Ubuntu Classic" during the login screen? Unity isn't supported on every card
[12:52] <zakzakzak> does anyone know how to install "brcm_bcm43xx-0.fw" +hdr of same. I put them in lib/firmware/brcm:)
[12:52] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, have you tried to run it from terminal to get an output?
[12:52] <ionite> Incarus6: yes i chose ubuntu classic. but now it's still so laggy visually.
[12:52] <chrisg4u> Yeah ran it from Terminal, same issue.
[12:52] <aetas> Incarus6, fair point...the 3d effects could be weighing him down if hes on a legacy card
[12:53] <DistroJockey> aetas: FX5500 I think it was
[12:53] <ionite> aetas: so i'm using classic now.
[12:53] <Incarus6> ionite, which nvidia card are you exactly using?
[12:53] <ionite> Incarus6: FX5500
[12:53] <aetas> ionite, still slow?
[12:54] <ionite> aetas: visually it's laggy.
[12:54] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Still crashes even ran from terminal :\
[12:54] <syrinx_> Unity isn't gonna run very good on an FX5xxx
[12:54] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, what does the program return? output?
[12:54] <ionite> aetas: as compared to windows, it's more laggy.
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> But when i unplug it and boot from the usb it starts normally
[12:54] <chrisg4u> I get nothing on the terminal just killed
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> I m currently booting from the usb with live ubuntu 9.10 old version
[12:54] <renaldocreative> Do anybody use Phpmyadmin I cannot find my shortcut  in the menu bar. I tried localhost/phpmyadmin but it don't work. I Have Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop editon 32bit.
[12:54] <ubuntu__1> Plz help me out
[12:55] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, I get nothing on the terminal just killed
[12:55] <sushireclame> I remember seeing a blog post about the Gnome 2.30 development in the Natty cycle, but I can't find it now... does anyone have the link?
[12:55] <ubuntu__1> I m curently encountering a prob. with my hard disk
[12:55] <ionite> aetas: should i switch to 3d mode?
[12:55] <ubuntu__1> Whaenever i turn on the sys with the hd p[lugged in, it does not boot up
[12:55] <ionite> Incarus6: should i switch to 3d mode now?
[12:55] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, a good way to fix that is allways just using another email client ;)
[12:55] <Pici> ubuntu__1: This sounds like a hardware issue to me, why do you think this is Ubuntu related?
[12:56] <aetas> ionite, no, leave it there for now
[12:56] <DistroJockey> ionite, Incarus6, aetas: My suggestion would be to log out and then log in using Ubuntu Classic (No effects) and see what it is like.
[12:56] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, what is the next best thing as I don't like using evolution as I use 3 different mail accounts for different purposes and it merges them together
[12:56] <Incarus6> ionite, don't write the message two times, just write both names in the same message
[12:56] <aetas> ionite, do me a favor and run this in a terminal "lspci -v" and then look for your NVIDIA card and there will be a number next to it like 0b:00.0, tell me what it is please
[12:57] <aetas> ionite, actually don't even need the -v
[12:57] <stephenthemartyr> for under 300 bucks can anyone tell which audio interfaces work withy linux,specifically jack and ardour?
[12:57] <Pici> stephenthemartyr: The folks in #ubuntustudio probably have a better idea than us.  You'll need to be patient though.
[12:57] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, or you could try to install a newer version of thunderbird, latest in natty is 3.1.11
[12:58] <DistroJockey> I'm out. Good luck all and have fun :)
[12:58] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[12:59] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, That is the version I am currently using.
[12:59] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654476/
[12:59] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, you can try the thunderbird stable channel "ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable", their latest version is 5.0
[13:00] <jfrench> when
[13:00] <jfrench> How do I pull the number of security updates that need to be installed?
[13:00] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:01] <zlude> BUG!? http://pastebin.com/Z0MUcAu8
[13:01] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Where would i type that, sorry, am new to all this :)
[13:01] <aetas> ionite, ok run: lspci -n | grep "00:06.0" and paste the line here
[13:02] <ionite> Incarus6: aetas can u guys see it? it's very laggy on my side. it's just so miserable to see my comp so lag.
[13:02] <aetas> ionite, yeah
[13:02] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:02] <ionite> aetas: 00:06.0 0300: 10de:0326 (rev a1)
[13:02] <Pici> zlude: No, 'locate' works off of a database which may not have been updated since the deletion of that file.  I prefer to use 'find' to find files, it's slower since it searches all the files in real-time, but it is always accurate.
[13:02] <oCean> zlude: you might have misplaced the iso in the meantime. First run  sudo updatedb  then try the locate command again
[13:02] <ThinkT510> zlude: try ls without the -la option
[13:03] <ubuntu__1> exit
[13:03] <syrinx_> zlude: oops
[13:03] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, add the line "ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable" in the software-sources dialog, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories after that just update all packages
[13:03] <syrinx_> sorry, that wasn't for you
[13:04] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Thanks.
[13:04] <aetas> ionite, yeah you're running the right version for your card....hrmm
[13:04] <zlude> oCean: thanks!  sudo updatedb works fine!
[13:04] <quiescens> zlude: 'locate' uses a pre-generated database of files which by default is updated once per day
[13:04] <aetas> ionite, lemme look at something real quick
[13:05] <Incarus6> ionite, I suppose another desktop environment could work fine for you since your graphic card isn't the newest. You could try XFCE for example
[13:05] <ionite> aetas: it's puzzling because if i were to revert back befor the update for the additional drivers i was able to select resolution but after i installed the latest driver i can't change my resolution.
[13:05] <sedavi> can someone tell me why the flash games do not work well in full screen?
[13:05] <ionite> Incarus6: so what shoul di do?
[13:05] <quiescens> oops
[13:05] <quiescens> oh well
[13:05] <aetas> ionite, is it running in a higher resolution that is normal?
[13:06] <ionite> aetas: right on the dot.
[13:06] <ionite> aetas: before the update of drivers.
[13:06] <Incarus6> ionite, first that resolution thing: start "nvidia-settings" and try to change the resolution there
[13:06] <captainjackstraw> why doesn't oracle vbox doesn't sync calender. do I have to restart vbox everytime?
[13:06] <aetas> ionite, lets work on that then
[13:06] <bazhang> captainjackstraw, try #vbox
[13:07] <saliak> I'm trying to setup a ssh tunnel to a remote system.  It's a reverse tunnel initiated by the remote system on startup, that forwards traffic from my local server, to the remote computers ssh port (note, i'm mixing "reverse" tunnel, and what i'm calling "remote and local").  right now, my remote system sets up the reverse tunnel, and forwards port 4000 on my local server, to it's local port 22.  to ssh into my remote system, i login to my local
[13:07] <saliak> server, and ssh to port 4000.  is there a way i can make any computer on my local network simply ssh into a port  on my local server, and have that forwarded to the remote system?
[13:07] <ionite> Incarus6: progress!!
[13:07] <ionite> Incarus6: but i can't save to my X config files
[13:08] <Incarus6> ionite, try running it as root, use "gksu nvidia-settings"
[13:08] <gorakhargosh> I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a MacBook Pro 17 along side Windows 7 and Mac OS X 10.6.8. I'm using reFit to triple-boot, however, when I try to boot Linux from it, the screen goes blank and nothing happens. How does one fix this?
[13:08] <aetas> ionite, actually if you're using the nvidia gui there should be a save button in there
[13:08] <gorakhargosh> I'm able to boot OS X properly.
[13:09] <aetas> ionite, goto the nvidia-settings Configuration setting
[13:09] <gorakhargosh> I have the same problem with Windows 7 too. Booting it makes the screen go blank. So there's definitely something that isn't allowing either Windows/Linux to boot.
[13:09] <ionite> aetas: i can select a higher reso but it's very pixelated.
[13:09] <aetas> ionite, not lower?
[13:09] <gorakhargosh> Any help is appreciated. =)
[13:09] <ionite> Incarus6: i tried.
[13:10] <hyper_ch> hi there, I'm trying to get OS9 to talk to my *buntu box with netatalk
[13:10] <Incarus6> ionite, you allways need to reboot that changes will have an effect. This seems to be related to your issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107336
[13:10] <ionite> aetas: now the display my screen is basically two thick black walls surroudning my monitor
[13:11] <hyper_ch> on OS9 I do see the server listed there but when I try to connect it just says that shis fileserver does not use any known way of registration
[13:11] <Incarus6> aetas, have a look at line 251 of ionite's Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/654470/
[13:11] <aetas> ionite, yeah its probably just a widescreen resolution you selected that your monitor doesn't support....which res do you have?
[13:11] <ionite> aetas: 1360x768
[13:11] <aetas> Incarus6, 0 bytes doesn't seem that demanding ;)
[13:12] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, All packages updated, is that all?
[13:12] <aetas> ionite, and which resolution were you able to get this working with before?
[13:12] <lizhenyuan19901> hello
[13:12] <ionite> aetas: what's puzzling is that why doesn't the monitor in preferences allows me to change resolution?
[13:12] <ionite> 1300X(forgot)
[13:12] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, close all instances of thunderbird, start it again and look in the info dialog if version is now 5.0
[13:12] <aetas> Incarus6, wonder if thats the last actual line or if its possibly doing that again and again and we only have the top part of the file
[13:12] <ionite> aetas: 1300X(forgot)
[13:12] <aetas> ionite, ok try that one
[13:13] <Incarus6> aetas, its the last line
[13:13] <joppan> how to recover grub 2 after overwrting mbr single ssd with win7
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !grub | joppan
[13:13] <aetas> ionite, you have to understand what happens behind how X selects its resolution, it queries the monitor and then removes invalid ones, etc
[13:13] <Incarus6> aetas, according to the following website that line seems to cause the speed issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107336
[13:14] <aetas> Incarus6, that guy is also running a video card close to his model
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: but i hv a doubt i hav sep / and /boot partion on same hdd
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: bot means
[13:14] <joppan> ubottu: k
[13:14] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, Now using 5.0 will see if problem is resolved
[13:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   joppan please read
[13:15] <aetas> Incarus6, I dont think hes running KDE however, so I wonder what the actual resolution was for him
[13:15] <joppan> bazhang: thanks
[13:15] <ionite> aetas: i dont' get u
[13:15] <Incarus6> aetas, it's not a KDE related issue in my oppinion
[13:16] <aetas> yeah more than likely his switching just caused something else to happen that resolved it
[13:16] <chrisg4u> Incarus6, still crashes, I dunno what to try to not make it crash :(
[13:16] <ionite> Incarus6: so what should i type?
[13:16] <aetas> ionite, what monitor is this?
[13:17] <aetas> Incarus6, I've gotta do a quick 10 minute dev meeting, can you help him for a bit while Im gone?
[13:17] <Incarus6> chrisg4u, is it crashing while you're trying to read an e-mail?
[13:18] <Incarus6> aetas, sure
[13:18] <ionite> aetas: samsun sync master SA300
[13:18] <chrisg4u> It crashes about 5 seconds after opening the program, If i am fast enough I can check a few email quickly but it doesnt matter what I go on it freezes
[13:18] <ne2k> I upgraded to natty a few days ago and everything was working fine, but now sound has stopped working. I hear clicks and pops from the sound device but no actual audio playback. I have tried rebooting, I have tried sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload, I have tried rm ~/.pulse*, I have tried pulseaudio --kill; pulseaudio --start; none of these fixes the problem
[13:19] <ionite> Incarus6: how can i fully utilitse my display resolution? it still got two thick black walls
[13:19] <Incarus6> ionite, can you paste the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me which resolution you actually want?
[13:19] <gorakhargosh> also, i'm not able to boot into Ubuntu from a Live USB either on a Macbook Pro
[13:19] <gorakhargosh> again the screen goes blank. =(
[13:20] <raluxgaza> gorakhargosh: get a regular laptop, thnkpad maybe :p
[13:20] <gorakhargosh> raluxgaza: haha
[13:20] <raluxgaza> gorakhargosh: :D
[13:20] <Incarus6> gorakhargosh, are you sure that computer /(or graphic card) is completly supported?
[13:21] <ionite> Incarus6: what command do i type to copy the text u want?
[13:21] <gorakhargosh> Incarus6: yes. i had both Windows and Ubuntu running earlier.
[13:21] <gorakhargosh> Incarus6: i had working partitions of both and suddenly both stopped working.
[13:21] <ne2k> this is incredibly frustrating and I now wish I had never upgraded. what a complete and utter mess
[13:21] <Incarus6> ionite, just start "gedit" and open the file ;)
[13:22] <ionite> Incarus6: mind giving me the exact commands? because i'm an idiot to ubuntu terminal
[13:23] <Incarus6> ionite, gedit is a graphical editor, you can start it via the menu (no need for the terminal here). But I can give you a command: "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.con"
[13:23] <Incarus6> ionite, * "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:23] <jrib> ne2k: I'm in a similar situation to you... sound worked great on maverick but on natty I'm randomly presented with dummy output in pulse.  Can you check if your issue is the same?  Does pavucontrol show dummy output or something else?
[13:23] <kooth> ne2k, did you try one music player or several? maybe this is about changed settings
[13:24] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654484/
[13:24] <ne2k> jrib: kooth: my real sound card is really there in alsamixer and in "sound preferences". I have tried "play" (from sox) as well as rhythmbox, flash video, and hardware->test speakers in sound preferences
[13:25] <gorakhargosh> so does anybody here use UBuntu on a Macbook along side OS X and has this problem?
[13:25] <jrib> ne2k: I don't know what "sound preferences" is exactly, would you mind checking pavucontrol?
[13:25] <ne2k> I'm going to try purging and reinstalling alsa
[13:25] <captainjackstraw> @gorak, what problem?
[13:25] <Incarus6> ionite, do you know the difference between the proprietary nvidia and the open-source nouveau driver?
[13:26] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: booting into Ubuntu using reFit blanks the screen. Nothing happens thereafter.
[13:26] <ionite> Incarus6: no idea.
[13:26] <captainjackstraw> @gorak, I havent had that problem, try reinstalling refit
[13:26] <ne2k> jrib: sound preferences is under the speaker icon on the panel
[13:27] <humbolt> I have converted an EC2 ubuntu 10.04 image to a xen image. Now I am experiencing strange freezes of the system.
[13:27] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: i did.
[13:27] <jrib> ne2k: yes, but as I said, I am not sure what that is
[13:27] <ne2k> jrib: what is pavucontrol?
[13:27] <humbolt> I have remove landscape-client and cloud-init but left the rest as is
[13:27] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i adjust my resolution? my monitor preferences doesn't allow me to change the resolution?
[13:27] <humbolt> what could be the problem?
[13:27] <gorakhargosh> captainjackstraw: still no go.
[13:27] <jrib> ne2k: it is a program that allows you to play with pulseaudio settings
[13:28] <robin_> exit
[13:28] <Incarus6> inoite, I think it's not important at the moment, but we will keep that in mind. Try to remove the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, reboot after that. type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" as one command. reboot after that
[13:28] <Incarus6> *ionite
[13:29] <ignerious> wow
[13:30] <ionite> Incarus6:  alright see u
[13:31] <Incarus6> ionite, is your problem fixed after reboot?
[13:31] <ne2k> I'm thinking I've really got no option but to do a fresh install
[13:31] <gorakhargosh> brb
[13:31] <jrib> ne2k: what did pavucontrol say?
[13:33] <ne2k> jribit shows my sound device, with the correct port listed
[13:33] <max06|work> Good evening - Noone wants to answer in #ubuntu-server, so I need to ask here :)
[13:33] <jrib> ne2k: and when you play something, what happens?  Do you see it in playback tab with meter bouncing?
[13:33] <ne2k> jrib: and when I play sound, the meter goes up and down to show the sound, but it doesn't come out of the headphoens
[13:34] <kooth> ne2k, I can't understand if you're using pulseaudio or just alsa? maybe you could try to use just alsa
[13:34] <jrib> ne2k: no speakers?
[13:34] <ne2k> jrib: headphones are speakers, they've just got foam pads and a band attached to them
[13:35] <ne2k> kooth: I'm using pulseaudio. I installed ubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04, and I haven't changed anything fundamental about the way the whole thing works
[13:35] <robinlox> whois zyro
[13:35] <ionite_> Incarus6: i' mback
[13:35] <max06|work> I need to modify the ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server-Install-Image. I've written a script, which needs to be executed after the first boot after installation. Problem is, I'm not running ubuntu as working system, so I canÄt use Remastersys... any ideas?
[13:35] <brianherman1> hello
[13:35] <brianherman1> i am using gnome3
[13:36] <dr_willis> sorry to hear that brianherman1  :)
[13:36] <brianherman1> and i am missing the system settings application
[13:36] <bazhang> brianherman1, its not supported
[13:36] <brianherman1> well
[13:36] <bazhang> !gnome3 | brianherman1
[13:36] <ne2k> jrib: this program is much the same as the "sound preferences" app, it's just got those meters which is handy
[13:36] <dr_willis> itsnt it still called gnome-control-center or somthing liek that
[13:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:36] <brianherman1> oh but the system settings application
[13:36] <brianherman1> i have installed from a server install
[13:36] <bazhang> brianherman1, please dont ask for help here, its not supported
[13:36] <kooth> ne2k, well, maybe you could try to use just alsa with no pulseaudio? you could try to change settings in your player to alsa and see if it works
[13:36] <jrib> ne2k: haha yes of course headphones are not different than speakers, good point.  Though sometimes computers will have separate jacks that people use for headphones.  Is that the case for you?
[13:37] <ionite_> Incarus6: i still got 2 thick black walls on my display
[13:37] <ne2k> jrib: yes. but the jack is working, because I get pops and clicks.
[13:37] <brianherman1> can you please tell me what the package name of the system settings application is
[13:37] <brianherman1> this has nothing todo with gnome3
[13:37] <Incarus6> ionite_, is the speed issue fixed?
[13:37] <bazhang> brianherman1, please no, its not supported
[13:37] <brianherman1> :\
[13:37] <brianherman1> ok
[13:38] <ionite_> Incarus6: i think so. but i still cant change into the desire resolution which is not pixelated.
[13:38] <ionite_> Incarus6: do i need to update my monitor drivers?
[13:38] <brianherman1> but it wont show up in regular gnome either
[13:38] <brianherman1> oh you guys support unity right
[13:38] <Incarus6> ionite_, there is no newer version of your graphic card driver then this one which you're actually using. Do you know which resolution would be fine?
[13:39] <ionite_> Incarus6: 1280X768
[13:39] <jrib> ne2k: if another jack does exist, you may try it as a troubleshooting step
[13:39] <brianherman1> i get this error when i tried to run unity
[13:40] <ne2k> jrib: yep, alraedy done that. same result
[13:40] <Incarus6> ionite_, on both screens?
[13:40] <brianherman1> gconf python package not found
[13:40] <ne2k> kooth: if I play a file with aplay (direct alsa player), I still get no sound
[13:40] <ionite_> Incarus6: what do u both screen?
[13:40] <ionite_> Incarus6: what do u mean both screen?
[13:41] <jrib> ne2k: you'll likely see aplay show up in pavucontrol
[13:41] <Incarus6> ionite_ you are just using one screen? or do you have a second screen?
[13:41] <ionite_> i only have 1 screen.
[13:41] <ionite_> Incarus6: i only have 1 screen
[13:42] <ne2k> jrib: so does that mean it's not actually using alsa directly, but going through PA?
[13:42] <ne2k> jrib: you're right, it comes up
[13:42] <Incarus6> ionite_, please paste "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" again
[13:42] <aetas> well that was pointless
[13:42] <aetas> alright, where we at?
[13:42] <jrib> ne2k: I believe so.  I have not troubleshooted much (I've just been booting debian instead of ubuntu) but it seems like pulse gets started automatically, even if I kill it, and then do something like mplayer -ao alsa
[13:43] <sc30317> hey, i'm having problems running a cron job
[13:43] <sc30317> i edited it with crontab -e
[13:43] <sc30317> using my regular user
[13:43] <jrib> sc30317: you need to be more specific (on one line please)
[13:43] <ne2k> jrib: it seems alsa is configured to be an emulation layer that points back to PA
[13:43] <fedy> can some help on how to installing ubuntu?
[13:43] <sc30317> jrib, I can run a script manually but when I put it in crontab it doesn't run
[13:43] <Incarus6> aetas, according to his xorg.conf file he is using twinview http://paste.ubuntu.com/654484/ he said he doesn't have another screen. we deleted xorg.conf
[13:44] <jrib> sc30317: pastebin the script and your crontab line
[13:44] <ionite_> Incarus6: there's nothing ongedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:44] <sc30317> jrib ok
[13:44] <aetas> Incarus6, odd
[13:44] <jrib> ne2k: though it's not clear that your issue is a pulse-specific issue to me.  What sound card do you have?
[13:44] <oCean> fedy: do you have a particular question, or are you looking for general installation instructions?
[13:45] <ionite_> aetas:  Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654496/
[13:45] <ne2k> jrib: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) It was working fine yesterday!
[13:45] <Incarus6> aetas, I want to check if the speed issue still exist after deleting the xorg.conf file. If not we can change the resoultion properly - if it still exist we could change the driver to nouveau
[13:45] <fedy> oCean: yes
[13:45] <sc30317> jrib, crontab -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/654497/
[13:45] <oCean> fedy: that is not a correct answer to my question
[13:45] <Psydoll> whats the ubuntu admin channel plz?
[13:45] <fedy> oCean: I been trying to install from usb but it installing
[13:45] <oCean> Psydoll: #ubuntu-ops
[13:45] <syrinx_> Psydoll: that was lame
[13:45] <ne2k> jrib: I could sort of understand it if I'd upgraded and it hadn't worked, but it's worked since I upgraded, and it just suddenly stopped
[13:46] <bazhang> fedy, using unetbootin?
[13:46] <jrib> ne2k: no package upgrades since?
[13:46] <aetas> Incarus6, how is nouveau anyway?  I haven't used it
[13:46] <ne2k> jrib: I think there have been a couple
[13:46] <Nismo6921> Can anyone please give me an easy solution to enabling sound on Ubuntu with a GTX470 Fermi Graphics Card with HDMI out?
[13:46] <sc30317> jrib, script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654499/
[13:47] <ionite_> aetas: Incarus6  i need to put my monitor in 1280X768
[13:47] <Incarus6> aetas, some things like 3D isn't fully supported so I have no use for that driver, but it would work better then the proprietary driver with that bug
[13:47] <aetas> Incarus6, has he trying running with no effects?
[13:47] <jrib> ne2k: it was similar for me.  Everything seemed to work fine, then one upgrade and seemingly randomly I'll get dummy output in pavucontrol.  And sometimes restarting udev fixes it, and sometimes not...
[13:47] <fedy> oCean: I been trying to install using the universial usb installer
[13:47] <Nismo6921> Can anyone please give me an easy solution to enabling sound on Ubuntu with a GTX470 Fermi Graphics Card with HDMI out?
[13:47] <ionite_> aetas: should i remove the additonal driver part?
[13:48] <bazhang> fedy, I'd try unetbootin then
[13:48] <Incarus6> ionite_, please paste "xrandr"
[13:48] <aetas> ionite_, additional driver part where?
[13:49] <fedy> bazhang: thank you
[13:49] <jrib> sc30317: add 2>&1 to the end of the line in your script, then check /home/capgemini/Desktop/output.txt
[13:49] <tyler_d> I'm trying to roll back my nvidia driver to use the default one provided with ubuntu? help please?
[13:49] <fedy> I check it out
[13:49] <Incarus6> aetas, I read that this issue will also occur with disabled effects when running a game for example
[13:49] <bazhang> fedy, unetbootin.sourceforge.net if on another distro or windows
[13:49] <ne2k> jrib: have you been able to fix it?
[13:49] <Infernet> ionite_: have you installed the system to hdd? or boot it from a live cd?
[13:49] <ionite_> Infernet: installed to HDD
[13:49] <bazhang> fedy, if from ubuntu its in the ubuntu repos
[13:49] <Infernet> ionite_: sure?
[13:49] <fedy> can you use unetbootin on windows>
[13:50] <fedy> That was my next question
[13:50] <jrib> ne2k: no, I've just been booting debian :P  It also seems to be some sort of race condition because if I just wait like 10 minutes to login I usually don't have dummy output
[13:50] <fedy> yes
[13:50] <ionite_> Infernet: of cousre
[13:50] <ionite_> aetas:  Incarus6 http://paste.ubuntu.com/654503/
[13:50] <Nismo6921> so no one has an answer for me
[13:50] <Nismo6921> cool
[13:50] <ionite_> aetas: meaning i revert back to the original auto detection by ubuntu the resolution was perfect.
[13:50] <wols> Nismo6921: you're welcome
[13:51] <bazhang> fedy, yep, they have a windows version on that website
[13:51] <jrib> ne2k: have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com for your card/issue?  Also in my search for a solution to my own problem I see a lot of people adding things to alsa-base.conf to resolve sound issues
[13:51] <fedy> bazhang: ty iam cheching it out now
[13:52] <aetas> ionite_, this was working before right?  did this happen when you installed the new nvidia driver off their website?
[13:52] <ne2k> jrib: I don't have a dummy output, I have the real thing but no sound comes out of it
[13:52] <Nismo6921> wols: what gives man?
[13:52] <ionite_> aetas: ya it happened after installed it from nvidia website
[13:52] <sc30317> jrib, that fixed some issues; but now it is giving me an issue about shared libraries that I am not seeing when I just run the script by hand
[13:52] <Nismo6921> im really looking for assistance here
[13:52] <jrib> sc30317: hmm?
[13:52] <Nismo6921> it seems im being ignored
[13:52] <ionite_> aetas: i was told that the lag i am experiencing was due to the video card so i had to update with the latest driver
[13:52] <matbee> does anyone here know how to remove the 'clear' option from chats in Empathy?
[13:53] <Incarus6> !patient | Nismo6921
[13:53] <safe> Hi! If I was to put a GUI on my server(ubuntu server 11.04) do you think it would sloow it down? IF not which one should I install?
[13:53] <matbee> It's where 'copy' should be, and im constantly clearing my chats
[13:53] <bazhang> Nismo6921, help with what
[13:53] <jrib> Nismo6921: if we don't the answer, we can't answer :/
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, the output of the script now is:
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, sqlplus: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlplus.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[13:53] <Nismo6921> i have no sound on Ubuntu with GTX470
[13:53] <aetas> ionite_, right but was this ever working in ubuntu?
[13:53] <sc30317> jrib, but thats not the output when I run it as my user
[13:53] <ionite_> Incarus6: aetas: worsestill additional drivers recommended me to install it.
[13:54] <Infernet> ionite_: u need the "current" version of nvidia driver
[13:54] <CrusaderAD> Any know of anything different in empathy 3 as opposed to 2.34?
[13:54] <sc30317> CrusaderAD, look at the changelog
[13:54] <ionite_> aetas: what do u mean?
[13:55] <ionite_> Infernet: are u sure?
[13:55] <CrusaderAD> sc30317 where is that?
[13:55] <Incarus6> ionite_, he wondered if it was working properly before (and since when/what)
[13:55] <safe> What GUI should I install?
[13:55] <sc30317> CrusaderAD, probably on the empathy website
[13:55] <sc30317> google
[13:55] <Infernet> ionite_: of course
[13:55] <sc30317> jrib, any ideas?
[13:55] <Nismo6921> Please help I love Ubuntu but I dont want a sound issue to be the thing that makes me hate working with it
[13:56] <Nismo6921> GTX470 hdmi out no sound
[13:56] <ionite_> Incarus6: before i used additonal driver, it was working properly.
[13:56] <ionite_> Infernet: how do i go about? what does it solves?
[13:56] <jrib> sc30317: I guess you have some sort of custom install with this sqlplus thing?
[13:56] <sc30317> jrib, that is correct
[13:56] <aetas> ionite_, ok there...what did you do that made it stop working?
[13:56] <CrusaderAD> sc30317 their website is garbage, been there, oh well
[13:56] <Troy^> i still dont think i have the proper graphics driver installed because when i move windows arround my screen they sort of jitter. i'm running a mobile hd 5870
[13:56] <fedy> bazhang: thanks it also got alot of other utililies that I was looking for like Ophcrack
[13:56] <sc30317> jrib, it works fine when I invoke the script manually, so I know it isn't a script problem
[13:56] <ionite_> aetas: use addtional driver installation.
[13:57] <safe> Anyone?
[13:57] <mankeletor_> hi all
[13:57] <tyler_d> what are the default display drivers in ubuntu?
[13:57] <Incarus6> ionite_, so before you enabled that driver in the dialog?
[13:57] <jrib> sc30317: pastebin « env » as your user
[13:57] <th0r> safe:  the one that matches your car
[13:57] <aetas> Incarus6, Im assuming the default installed in ubuntu is nouveau?
[13:57] <safe> th0r: I don'#t have a car
[13:57] <Incarus6> aetas, I suppose it was using nouveau as default before enabling the proprietary driver
[13:57] <aetas> lol
[13:57] <Incarus6> aetas, correct ;)
[13:57] <th0r> safe: the gui is a personal choice; no one can tell you what to install
[13:58] <aetas> ionite_, yeah lets switch back to nouveau in that case
[13:58] <ionite_> Incarus6: i think so.
[13:58] <safe> th0r: which one do you think is faster? what does clientos use?
[13:58] <sc30317> jrib, my env: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654512/
[13:58] <Nismo6921> my gui is gooey
[13:58] <ionite_> aetas: so i go to additional driver and click REMOVE?
[13:58] <gorakhargosh> nope. captainjackstraw didn't work.
[13:58] <th0r> safe: lxde is probably one of the lightest
[13:58] <jrib> sc30317: guess: setup LD_LIBRARY_PATH (and maybe ORACLE_HOME) the same way in your crontab
[13:59] <aetas> ionite_, yeah try that
[13:59] <Incarus6> safe, it isn't called GUI, it is called a desktop environment. There are many environments that doesn't slow down your server
[13:59] <safe> th0r: Okay, thanks. How can I make  it so you have to enter a command to start the GUI like in backtrack you have to do 'startx'
[13:59] <sc30317> jrib, thanks ill try that H/O
[13:59] <Nismo6921> Nvidia GTX470 hdmi out no sound on Ubuntu 10.10
[13:59] <wols> safe: disable your displaymanager
[13:59] <wols> Nismo6921: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[14:00] <mankeletor_> how can I do to find files without this chars: [A-Za-z0-9\,\.\&\(\)\-] I'm trying to find files with invalid characters
[14:00] <Nismo6921> Wols: then tell me how I need to properly word my question so that it will be answered
[14:00] <ionite_> aetas: my banshee makes weird repeating noise whenever my comp lags.
[14:01] <Troy^> hmm
[14:01] <wols> Nismo6921: the article I linked tells you how to maximize your chances. but you obviously don't want to read it
[14:01] <aetas> ionite_, is this new or an old problem?
[14:01] <Incarus6> aetas, ionite_, we should enable nouveau again
[14:01] <Nismo6921> Wols: im reading it now
[14:01] <Troy^> im having some ubuntu classic(gnome 2) issues seems unstable like i'll get interface freezing :S
[14:01] <Incarus6> aetas, it's an old problem because it is related with the proprietary driver
[14:01] <wols> mankeletor_: how can the yhave invalid chars? if they do, how could they exist on the filesystem?
[14:02] <gorakhargosh> nevermind. i'll simply run ubuntu in a vm
[14:02] <ne2k> jrib: it seems there is a mismatch between the alsa driver version and the library and utilities versions
[14:02] <jrib> ne2k: that's weird
[14:02] <ne2k> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/166005
[14:02] <ionite_> Incarus6: how should i enable?
[14:02] <ionite_> aetas: it's a lagging problem? which causes these weird noises? how do i updated my sound card driver?
[14:04] <aetas> ionite_, one thing at a time...did you remove that driver?
[14:04] <Incarus6> ionite_, just to clarify that: have you downloaded the driver from nvidia.com or have you just enabled it in the additional driver dialog?
[14:04] <ionite_> Incarus6: i did both
[14:05] <ionite_> aetas: Incarus6 let me now restart BRB.
[14:05] <mankeletor_> wols, they are some special spanish characters that looks like this �... and the files was unpacked from a rar archive created in windows (charset ISO-8859-1 i guess)
[14:05] <Incarus6> aetas, I wondered if he really installed the nvidia.com driver because many newbies doesn't know how to do that, ionite_
[14:06] <Nismo6921> Im trying to enable sound with the use of Alas Mixer but it will not see my GTX470 card. The hdmi output is shown in the audio preferences but neither of which produce sound. I've read a few articles saying I need to discover which device is producing sound. But I do not know how to do this. Can someone please guide me in enabling my sound. Thank you.
[14:06] <ne2k> jrib: I'm trying the fix there
[14:08] <jkeats> how do i add a "lock" widget to the panel in kde?
[14:08] <tyler_d> what is the default display driver in ubuntu called please?
[14:08] <sc30317> jrib, that didn't help
[14:08] <aetas> Incarus6, no telling....I just installed nvidia-current instead of the ones off the website.  I dont see much of a point in installing those really
[14:09] <blkdg> hi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 86 bit and i installed LAMP using aptget for the individual packaged outlined here http://tech.mobiletod.com/how-to-install-lamp-serverapache-mysql-php-on-ubuntu-10-10/ My question is this. when i use aptget purge to remove the packages, it removes php and phpmyadmin and mysql. but apache2 is still running. i can see it from my browser.
[14:09] <jrib> sc30317: where is libsqlplus.so located?
[14:09] <blkdg> how do i remove apache2 if apt-get purge apache2 dosn't get rid of it?
[14:09] <Incarus6> aetas, Im allways installing the latest (beta and final) drivers from nvidia.com ;)
[14:09] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6  i'm back
[14:10] <aetas> Incarus6, do you run games?
[14:10] <Nismo6921> wols: i dont know what else to do bro i tried to compose my problem in a neater fashion and yet i still received no assistance
[14:10] <ionite> aetas: Incarus6  screen looks great & wonderful.
[14:10] <Incarus6> aetas, of course, and Windows 7 in VirtualBox
[14:10] <th0r> blkdg: did you install with apt-get or synaptic?
[14:10] <Incarus6> ionite, speed issue fixed?
[14:10] <blkdg> th0r apt-get.
[14:10] <aetas> Incarus6, makes a different...this is just my laptop
[14:11] <th0r> blkdg: then apt-get should remove it.
[14:11] <blkdg> th0r, i also did a full remove using synaptic.
[14:11] <th0r> blkdg: what makes you think it isn't uninstalled?
[14:11] <safe> th0r: Okay, I've installed lxde how do I activate it?
[14:11] <blkdg> th0r, i can get to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:11] <ionite> Incarus6: significantly though some applications are little slow
[14:12] <Incarus6> ionite, you are now using the open-source driver called "nouveau". It seems to be working better in your case because the nvidia proprietary driver got that speed and flat-panel issue. So you could wheter use the nouveau driver from now or use the nouveau driver 'til this was fixed
[14:12] <th0r> safe: at the login screen choose lxde from the Sessions menu. I don't use lxde so I am not sure, but from the command line you might try 'startlxde' ...
[14:12] <Nismo6921> ok then let me ask this is Ubuntu more compatible with an Optical Audio Output that is onboard than an HDMI that is on my video card?
[14:12] <ionite> Incarus6: so i guess i can't use the 3d unity then
[14:12] <sc30317> jrib, /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/client/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:12] <sc30317> /usr/lib/oracle/xe/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/server/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:12] <sc30317> /usr/lib/oracle/11.2/client/lib/libsqlplus.so
[14:13] <ionite> Incarus6: how do i install the latest java plugin?
[14:13] <th0r> blkdg: did you stop apache before uninstalling?
[14:13] <blkdg> no
[14:13] <Incarus6> !java | ionite
[14:13] <llutz> blkdg: dpkg -l '*apache*'|grep ii
[14:14] <ionite> Incarus6: anyway to speed up ubuntu?
[14:14] <pdrm> \join #tehlug
[14:14] <ne2k> jrib: that has fixed it! amazing
[14:14] <jrib> ne2k: heh, good job
[14:14] <sc30317> jrib, this pastebin has my crontab, my script, and my env output: http://pastebin.com/5NPWrihA
[14:14] <blkdg> llutz, ii  apache2-mpm-prefork                       2.2.16-1ubuntu3.1                                 Apache HTTP Server - traditional non-threaded model
[14:15] <Incarus6> ionite, define "speed up". Are just some applications slow or the whole environment?
[14:15] <llutz> blkdg: sudo apt-get purge apache2-mpm-prefork
[14:15] <ionite> Incarus6: the whole environment
[14:15] <herbster> hey guys
[14:15] <ionite> Incarus6: and applications
[14:15] <blkdg> llutz, as well as the other four that showed up in the dpkg list?
[14:15] <llutz> blkdg: yes
[14:15] <herbster> anyone know what the situation is with maximum number of logical partitions on a linux drive?
[14:15] <herbster> i've got this 2TB drive here
[14:16] <Incarus6> ionite, can you paste "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"?
[14:16] <herbster> if i use fdisk, the maximum number of partitions of equal size i can create is about 55
[14:16] <Nismo6921> im done i cant any response from anybody but annoyed moderators
[14:16] <herbster> if i use fdisk
[14:16] <herbster> err sfdisk
[14:16] <herbster> then i can create at least 100 logical partitions
[14:16] <ionite> Incarus6: i read the java link but i still don't get it. what do u  mean?
[14:16] <jrib> !support | Nismo6921
[14:16] <goodtime> lo herbster
[14:16] <herbster> but only the first 10 (i.e. /dev/sda5 through 15) show up in /dev
[14:16] <jrib> Nismo6921: if no one can help you here at the moment, try later or the alternatives ubottu gave above
[14:16] <Incarus6> Nismo6921, most people doesn't know the answer because they aren't using audio over hdmi, please be patient
[14:17] <Nismo6921> oh finally a response
[14:17] <herbster> nobody?
[14:17] <Nismo6921> thats all you had to say dude
[14:17] <jrib> sc30317: why is "capgemini" in your user's crontab?
[14:18] <tyler_d> what is the default display driver in ubuntu called please?
[14:18] <sc30317> jrib, user permissions
[14:18] <llutz> herkupus: its an old limitation to max 15 partitions on scsi-devices
[14:18] <Incarus6> ionite, install "sun-java6-plugin"
[14:18] <brianherman1> hello
[14:18] <jrib> sc30317: username isn't specified in a user's crontab
[14:18] <sc30317> jrib, just took it out; forgot I had put it in there
[14:18] <brianherman1> i am missing the thing that installs the restricted drivers
[14:18] <sc30317> just tried it a couple minutes ago
[14:18] <llutz> herkupus: no you, sry
[14:18] <blkdg> llutz, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:19] <blkdg> th0r, looks like some pkgs were still lying around. thanks again.
[14:19] <jrib> sc30317: inside /home/capgemini/scripts/runsqlcommand.sh  have it spit out the value of LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[14:19] <goodtime> herbster:please wait a minute
[14:19] <ionite> Incarus6: command not found
[14:19] <sc30317> jrib, okay
[14:20] <herkupus> llutz: yeah, block-8-15 is sda15, block-8-16 is sdb
[14:20] <Incarus6> tyler_d, that depends on your graphic card. There isn't something like the ultimative default driver
[14:20] <ionite> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654522/
[14:20] <sc30317> jrib, fixed it :)
[14:20] <jrib> sc30317: eh?
[14:20] <sc30317> jrib, yea I just had to put those paths at the top of my cron job
[14:20] <jrib> sc30317: ok
[14:20] <goodtime> herbster: pm
[14:21] <tyler_d> Incarus6: I am running an nvidia gt330M ; alternately how would I figure out which driver(not the nvidia one) would be in use?
[14:21] <ionite> Incarus6: my sound card still got the repeating noise whenever my system is busy booting something.
[14:21] <blkdg> Nismo6921, what's the hdmi question? i just read back...
[14:21] <sc30317> jrib, thanks for your help; you're the man!
[14:21] <sc30317> (or woman)
[14:21] <jrib> ne2k: I guess I'll give that alsa script a try later to see if it finds anything interesting on my ubuntu
[14:21] <jrib> sc30317: no problem :D
[14:22] <Nismo6921> blkdg: I cant get any sound out of my GTX470
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> I am using wine's First startup wizard.  The wine paths are wine bin:/usr/bin/wine, wine server:/usr/bin/wineserver; wine loader: /usr/bin/wine; what is the path for wine libs?
[14:22] <sc30317> who am I kidding?  we are all men in here :D
[14:22] <krosh> is there a tool to monitor the ssh logs?
[14:22] <blkdg> Nismo6921, laptop or desktop
[14:22] <Nismo6921> desktop
[14:22] <Bisu[Shield]> am I invisible?
[14:23] <blkdg> forget the hdmi for a sec. do you get audio out of the 1/4 jack?
[14:23] <ionite> aetas: do u know how to solve the repeating noise @ banshee whenever my system is busy booting?
[14:23] <olzhas> hey guys
[14:23] <olzhas> any xorg synaptics developers are here?
[14:24] <ThinkT510> !wine | Bisu[Shield]
[14:24] <Incarus6> tyler_d, the default driver is nouveau. start jockey, if the priprietary driver isn't enabled you are using nouveau
[14:25] <ionite> Incarus6: did i paste correctly for u to see?
[14:26] <tyler_d> Incarus6: ok, so with nouveau installed, what is the "driver" reference in xorg.conf please?
[14:26] <Nismo6921> blkdg: do you need any additional information?
[14:26] <Incarus6> inoite, the previous issue seems to be fixed, I don't know why your computer is still slow
[14:26] <blkdg> Nismo6921, forget the hdmi for a sec. do you get audio out of the 1/4 jack?
[14:26] <Nismo6921> oh to be honest I have not tried
[14:27] <blkdg> there is no try ;)
[14:27] <Nismo6921> my only speakers are a 5.1 surround sound system
[14:27] <blkdg> use headphones
[14:27] <Nismo6921> I can hook them up via optical or hdmi
[14:27] <blkdg> whatever
[14:27] <Incarus6> tyler_d, reference? can you paste xorg.conf file?
[14:27] <Nismo6921> should I try optical hook up?
[14:27] <ionite> Incarus6: what about my sound card?
[14:27] <blkdg> try to get 1/4 inch jack to work. use headphones if you have too.
[14:27] <blkdg> to
[14:28] <Nismo6921> for testing purposes or all the time?
[14:28] <blkdg> Nismo6921, testing.
[14:28] <Nismo6921> cause Id rather not use headphones all the time
[14:28] <Incarus6> ionite, a good solution is allways to just not use something. can you try VLC instead of banshee?
[14:28] <blkdg> testing purposes
[14:28] <Nismo6921> unfortunately im not on the system currently with the issue nor am i near it
[14:29] <tyler_d> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654533/ <--- I only have the one created by nvidia-xconfig as I was trying to use the proprietary driver. I was forced to remove(not use) xorg.conf as a result of this in order to get a gui back
[14:29] <ionite> oh.. alright. i tot ubuntu preinstalled software are better. hehe
[14:30] <blkdg> ok, then. when you're near it, go to sound prefrences, then unplug any hdmi connections and plug only one thing into the soundcard, a simple speaker or a pair of headphones. trouble shoot from there.
[14:30] <ionite> Incarus6: last part. how do i import all my URLs to firefox?
[14:30] <Incarus6> tyler_d, it's the third driver calld nv, it's obsolete. what version of ubuntu are you currently using?
[14:30] <tyler_d> Incarus6: 11.04
[14:30] <blkdg> i can't help much more than that without you there.
[14:30] <Nismo6921> blkdg: are the most current updates able to handle hdmi output...i may have a bunch of updates that I have not yet installed
[14:30] <Incarus6> ionite, is that another question? and which URLS?
[14:31] <ionite> Incarus6: yep
[14:31] <ionite> Incarus6: i backed up all my bookmarks from windows using firefox
[14:32] <Xethron_> Hello
[14:32] <blkdg> Nismo6921, updates are free and easy with *buntu, so yeah, keep system up to date.
[14:32] <Incarus6> tyler_d, correct me if I'm wrong but "nv" doesn't exist in 11.04 anymore. Have you wrote that manually in the file or is it just an old file?
[14:32] <Nismo6921> blkdg: i mean the only other thing I can think of is try using the optical audio output from the motherboard that should be more compatible than the hdmi right?
[14:32] <Incarus6> ionite, how have you backed up them. with an addon or manually?
[14:32] <tyler_d> Incarus6: flying by the seat of my pants, I believe you are correct. what should that read please?
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, my hdmi audio works well, but occasionally i have to remember to force shut off the sound adaptor in my soundprefrences.
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, no. i think the opposite.
[14:33] <tyler_d> Incarus6: p.s. manually configured
[14:33] <Nismo6921> wait what?
[14:33] <Nismo6921> what sound adaptor
[14:33] <Nismo6921> maybe thats why mine does work
[14:33] <blkdg> Nismo6921, i think that hdmi sound support will come faster than digital audio out
[14:33] <Nismo6921> not*
[14:33] <Incarus6> tyler_d, why have you wrote "nv" in the file? Are you using old documentaries?
[14:34] <Nismo6921> what adaptor are you disabling
[14:34] <prezident> hello people im trying to back up my ubuntu 11.04 system, i looked on the internet and found rsync, simple backup and something with tar i want to use rsync because i can backup and restore can somebody show me how to properly use rsync to backup my whole system excluding the normal folders that nobody would back up
[14:34] <prezident> ?
[14:34] <blkdg> Nismo6921, internal audio analogue stereo out
[14:35] <Nismo6921> oh!!!
[14:35] <blkdg> i then turn on the hdmi one.
[14:35] <Nismo6921> i have to have that disabled?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> !rsync | prezident
[14:36] <blkdg> Nismo6921, IN MY CASE, i have to turn off the analogue out and turn on the hdmi out when i use hdmi cable
[14:36] <blkdg> i am using a rs780 azalia module / card
[14:36] <prezident> ubottu so whats the best way i can back up my system to my drive ?
[14:36] <prezident> lmao
[14:36] <Nismo6921> now that you mention that i think i read that somewhere that all other audio options have to be disabled before the hdmi works
[14:37] <Nismo6921> i dont why i didnt even think to try it ill do that when i get back home
[14:37] <Nismo6921> thanks blkdg!
[14:37] <blkdg> good luck
[14:38] <prezident> whats the best way to backup my ubuntu 11.04 to my drive
[14:38] <Incarus6> tyler_d, try to remove the xorg.conf file and start jockey and enable the proprietary driver, reboot and it should work
[14:38] <OerHeks> !backup
[14:38] <tyler_d> Incarus6: what is "jockey" please?
[14:39] <Incarus6> tyler_d, that additional-driver-dailog-thing
[14:39] <Incarus6> *dialog
[14:39] <blkdg> llutz, if i dig through dpkg again looking for mysql this time, and purge the mysql pkgs that i find, will that eliminate any mysql config files that are haunting my installation?
[14:39] <blkdg> Hey MarkShuttleworth !
[14:39] <blkdg> :)
[14:39] <llutz> blkdg: only systemwide config-files, not your personal
[14:40] <MarkShuttleworth> Hello
[14:41] <Incarus6> UK IP? no cloak? fake :D
[14:41] <stevethepirate> Hey, my graphics card is being picked up by lspci, but the drivers for it are not available (via restricted drivers section). Any help?
[14:41] <MarkShuttleworth> I don't wear a cloak, it's the downfall of superheros
[14:42] <tyler_d> Incarus6: apt-get install jockey?
[14:42] <Incarus6> tyler_d, no, jockey is preinstalled, it should be called "Additional Driver" in the menu (or similar)
[14:43] <tyler_d> Incarus6: sorry, which menu are you refering to ?
[14:43] <blkdg> do you mean cape?
[14:44] <blkdg> llutz, and i;m assuming that the personal ones are stored in /home in a hidden dir, right?
[14:44] <Incarus6> tyler_d, nevermind, just type "jockey-gtk" in terminal
[14:44] <llutz> blkdg: afaik its only ~/.my.cnf
[14:45] <blkdg> ok
[14:46] <ionite> Incarus6: how do install respositories?
[14:47] <Incarus6> ionite, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories
[14:48] <tyler_d> Incarus6: under driver, what does your machine have listed? ie. nv?
[14:49] <ThinkT510> tyler_d: nv is depreciated
[14:49] <stevethepirate> Hey, my graphics card is being picked up by lspci, but the drivers for it are not available (via restricted drivers section). Any help?
[14:49] <stevethepirate> ThinkT510: should I compile noveau from source?
[14:49] <tyler_d> ThinkT510: what should the "driver" say then please?
[14:50] <tyler_d> ThinkT510: for noveau?
[14:50] <ThinkT510> tyler_d: either nouveau or nvidia, depending on what you have installed
[14:50] <Incarus6> tyler_d, nv is dead. Usually "nvidia-current", its the priprietary driver
[14:50] <tyler_d> Incarus6: that. is fantastic, tyvm guys
[14:50] <ThinkT510> stevethepirate: why would you want to do that?
[14:50] <ionite> Incarus6: i tried /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:51] <ionite> Incarus6: but it says permission denied
[14:51] <sandyd> ionite: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:51] <Incarus6> ionite, try the graphical way which is mentioned in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Ubuntu%20Software%20Repositories
[14:51] <nikitis> Question, does anyone know what program or script is used to auto detect your gateway when using a live cd?
[14:51] <stevethepirate> ThinkT510: I mean, I have a nvidia gfx card, but the drivers for it not getting picked up.
[14:52] <Incarus6> tyler_d you're welcome
[14:52] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, do you prefer the priprietary or the open-source driver?
[14:52] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: The one that'll be the best?
[14:52] <sandyd> stevethepirate: are you connected to the net? If your not, the propreity drivers don't show
[14:53] <stevethepirate> sandyd: I was on the net when I did the check
[14:53] <nikitis> Is there a ubuntu development channel?
[14:53] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, depends on your card and on your needs
[14:53] <stevethepirate> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1)
[14:53] <stevethepirate> I'd just like decent support for average rendering processes.
[14:53] <b0ba> Can anybody help with latest GRUB2 update ?
[14:54] <stevethepirate> Most importantly, maybe a higher desktop resolution.
[14:54] <stevethepirate> (1024x768 :<)
[14:54] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, please paste lspci
[14:55] <stevethepirate> http://pastebin.com/bbvpCTws
[14:56] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, is your computer or your card new?
[14:56] <b0ba> how to enable debug mode in Grub2 console ?
[14:57] <nikitis> What is the ubuntu development irc channel?
[14:57] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: both.
[14:57] <DJones> nikitis: #ubuntu+1 for the unreleased version in testing etc
[14:57] <nikitis> DJones: thanks
[14:57] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, do you know which graphic card your computer is using?
[14:58] <blkdg> llutz, i looked for the file in dpkg's descritopns and got rid of purge mysql-common that did the trick. i can loginto phpmyadmin not (i reinstalled it as well) thanks again. llutz
[14:58] <damno> hi
[14:58] <blkdg> have a good weekend folks. i'm off to play with php !
[14:59] <cupcakeone> hey all
[14:59] <wols> stevethepirate: you will need the latest nvidia.com drivers most probably.
[14:59] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: one sec.
[14:59] <ThinkT510> !grub | b0ba
[14:59] <cupcakeone> if you take the bootable flag off from a partition during installation, do you loose the data on it?
[14:59] <wols> Incarus6: a gf119 which translates to a low end GF5xxM GT. a mobile chip
[15:00] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: N520GT
[15:00] <damno> previously vdos bufferd in FF or chrome would usually reside in /tmp which I would simply copy. but now there are no buffrd vdo files in /tmp :( neither for chrome nor FF . is something  wrong or may the browsers have changed the way they handle buffered vdos?
[15:01] <wols> stevethepirate: how do you know the restricted drivers don't work? any error messages? checked Xorg.0.log?
[15:01] <sandyd> damno: youtube changed it a while ago. use flashgot
[15:01] <ne2k> after upgrading to natty, gtk-window-decorator crashes with a segmentation fault whenever I click the top left "window operations" button on any window
[15:01] <stevethepirate> wols: They are not shown as offers to download
[15:01] <wols> stevethepirate: and which ubuntu version are you running?
[15:01] <stevethepirate> 11.04
[15:01] <damno> sandyd: flashgot in ubuntu??
[15:01] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, GT 520? try to install that driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-275.21-driver.html
[15:01] <sandyd> damno: flashgot firefox extension
[15:01] <prezident> what is the best way to back up your ubuntu system to a drive?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !backup | prezident
[15:02] <sujian> j
[15:02] <ne2k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/654550/
[15:02] <prezident> thinkt510 are you a robot 2 ?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> prezident: nope
[15:02] <damno> sandyd: yeah.. bt none of the sites I used to save buffered vdos from are working :/
[15:03] <ne2k>  btw, the clock on paste.ubuntu.com is completely wrong
[15:03] <Incarus6> prezident, just ubotttu is a bot. please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[15:03] <damno> sandyd: and am a avid chrome user
[15:03] <prezident> thinkt510 ok im reading now
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: I got the restricted drivers menu to work
[15:04] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, fixed?
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: Which are recommended? Free or proprietary?
[15:04] <stevethepirate> Incarus6: it was an /etc/hosts error, I'd been working on stuff.
[15:04] <Incarus6> stevethepirate, I ALLWAYS recommend the proprietary nvidia driver
[15:05] <cupcakeone> does changing the bootable flag affect the data on the drive?
[15:05] <cupcakeone> im trying to install ubuntu and turn the bootable flag off
[15:05] <cupcakeone> from one of my drives
[15:05] <ne2k> cupcakeone: the bootable flag is in the partition table, which is on the drive, so yes
[15:05] <cupcakeone> shit
[15:06] <cupcakeone> :(
[15:06] <sandyd> damno: I don't think that theirs any flashgot for google chrome. yet. but flashgot still works in firefox. You should see the icon on the bottom-right hand side of firefox when you get to a video
[15:06] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: why are you turning th bootable flag off?
[15:07] <cupcakeone> i have a couple hard drives, trying to install ubuntu on the second one
[15:08] <cupcakeone> but after install it keeps saying insert bootable media
[15:08] <Troy^> im using the propertiary amd driver for my mobile hd 5870
[15:08] <sandyd> cupcakeone: grub does not deal with bootflags
[15:08] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: you can only have 1 bootable flag per mbr
[15:08] <sandyd> cupcakeone: it deals with mbr
[15:09] <cupcakeone> so its a bios problem?
[15:09] <dr_willis> or its trying to boot the wrong hd.
[15:09] <dr_willis> or grub is not on the MBR.
[15:09] <sandyd> cupcakeone: no, just reinstall grub manually to HD
[15:10] <cupcakeone> ive installed grub on /dev/sda
[15:10] <ruser> hi, i've got a weird problem on ubuntu i'm trying to start a game server binary but when i execute it, it complains no such file but the file is clearly there!    included direcotry listing, stat listing, uname, and file entry, with strace  http://paste.ubuntu.com/654557/
[15:10] <dr_willis> I dident think grub/linux used the bootable flag.. but ive never really noticed  to be sure.
[15:10] <wols> ruser: it usually means a shared library it needs isn't there
[15:10] <cupcakeone> which is the hard drive i want linux on
[15:10] <ne2k> ruser: "no such file" when the is clearly there usually means a missing shared library
[15:10] <wols> ruser: run "ldd <execuable>"
[15:10] <ThinkT510> cupcakeone: i have a few os's installed and windows is the one with a boot flag
[15:10] <sandyd> cupcakeone: is the bios set to boot from that HD though>
[15:11] <ruser> wols: ne2k:         not a dynamic executable
[15:11] <cupcakeone> yeah boot priority is set to that HD
[15:11] <Troy^> hah i love how easy it was to find my wireless printer on the network and it found a driver by itself, im impressed lol
[15:11] <wols> ruser: file <executable>
[15:11] <ruser> wols: already in pastebin
[15:11] <cupcakeone> its strange
[15:12] <dr_willis> Troy^:  mine did even better.. it found 5 printers and 5 drivers.. for my single printer. :)
[15:12] <wols> cupcakeone: what is the error message?
[15:12] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you chrooted to install right?
[15:12] <ruser> wols: paste.ubuntu.com/654557/
[15:12] <sandyd> cupcakeone: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Methods%20of%20Reinstalling
[15:13] <wols> ruser: line 27:  dynamically linked (uses shared libs),
[15:13] <cupcakeone> im installing from the server edition disk
[15:13] <ruser> wols: and yet ldd reports not a dynamic :)
[15:13] <cupcakeone> "Reboot and select proper boot device"
[15:13] <cupcakeone> thats the exact msg
[15:13] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you can still chroot into the install
[15:14] <sandyd> cupcakeone: you need to chroot into the server install from a livecd, and install grub from there
[15:14] <dr_willis> cupcakeone:  so the pc has how many hd's ? tried booting any of them?
[15:14] <cupcakeone> the pc has 5 hds
[15:14] <NotreDev> i performed sudo apt-get upgrade -y, but ran out of space on my disk. now that i've freed some space, i tried again, but it doesn't seem to believe there are any upgrades available. how can i make apt more aware of what packages are currently installed?
[15:14] <wols> ruser: strings <executable> |grep ".so"
[15:14] <wols> ruser: strings <executable> |grep lib
[15:14] <ravishekhar> hello everyone
[15:15] <wols> NotreDev: apt-get -f install
[15:15] <antlong> hello, whats the pre 11.x desktop window manager package name?
[15:15] <cupcakeone> so its a problem with MBR not grub?
[15:15] <ravishekhar> I m using 11.04 version
[15:15] <ruser> wols:  silly me i forgot to install ia32-libs
[15:15] <wols> antlong: gnome-desktop-environment ?
[15:15] <rww> antlong: the same as it is now, compiz
[15:15] <antlong> rww the actual gui?
[15:15] <wols> antlong: sorry, ubuntu-desktop-environment
[15:16] <antlong> ah, ty wols
[15:16] <NotreDev> wols: did nothing different (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded)
[15:16] <rww> antlong: "the actual GUI" isn't the same as "window manager". Perhaps you're looking for "gnome-panel" or this:
[15:16] <wols> rww: wasn't it metacity like usual for gnome?
[15:16] <ravishekhar> But no .exe file run on this although I hav installed winehq
[15:16] <rww> !classic
[15:16] <rww> wols: nope, Ubuntu's used compiz for a while
[15:16] <antlong> yeah unity, thanks
[15:16] <wols> NotreDev: apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:16] <rww> wols: well, unless 3D acceleration doesn't work, then it's metacity
[15:17] <cdauth> hey there
[15:17] <adriano> ciao
[15:17] <antlong> unity-2d
[15:17] <adriano> nessuna di bari?
[15:17] <wols> ravishekhar: in a terminal, run "wine <exe file>"
[15:17] <wols> !it
[15:17] <sandyd> cupcakeone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099 The Chroot section should be enough to get your bootloader back.
[15:17] <ravishekhar> wols:thanks
[15:17] <anoob> do you have an Intel HD 3000 Graphics? I want to know if it works without extra configuration ... something like plug and play :)
[15:18] <cupcakeone> sandyd: thanks ill try that
[15:18] <cdauth> i need to install a recent version of apache on an old ubuntu 8.04 lts. what is the usual technique for this? look for a deb file on the internet? use a deb file from a newer ubuntu version? compile it myself?
[15:18] <rww> anoob: I have an HD 3450. It works fine.
[15:18] <NotreDev> well now i have (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded)
[15:18] <wols> cdauth: backport. you get the _sources_ of the package you want to backport from a newer ubuntu version and build a package from that and install it via dpkg -i
[15:19] <wols> cdauth: using a newer package will simply destroy your 8.04 LTS
[15:19] <wols> cdauth: but in this case I strongly suggest an upgrade to 10.04 at least
[15:19] <ruser> wols: ne2k thanks guys,  the problem was i forgot to install ia32 libs
[15:19] <sandyd> cdauth: you will have to compile it yourself if there are no newer packages on the net
[15:20] <anoob> rww, what's fine? do you have to do any manual work to get it working?
[15:20] <rww> anoob: no
[15:20] <Troy^> empathy keeps giving me network errors hmm
[15:20] <anoob> can you play games with wine rww? which games?
[15:20] <ruser> cdauth: you could try palying around with pinning
[15:20] <dr_willis> anoob:  a great many games work with wine.  see the wine app database.
[15:20] <rww> anoob: The only 3D accelerated game I play is Minecraft. It works with the default driver, and works better with fglrx.
[15:20] <cdauth> okay, that’s enough information to start. thanks everyone ;-)
[15:21] <wols> ruser: no he could not. pinning is a great way to kill the install
[15:21] <wols> cdauth: please ignore ruser
[15:21] <delinquentme> how to run a continuous ping command .. every 5 second ?
[15:21] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  pint has options for that..
[15:21] <ruser> wols: please explain?
[15:21] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  or write a little script.
[15:21] <anoob> which driver is the default rww?
[15:22] <rww> anoob: it's called "radeon"
[15:22] <wols> ruser: pinning is 99% of the time a very very bad idea. and you never want to mix packages from different versions, which is what pinning would do in this case
[15:22] <anoob> rww, thank you very much
[15:22] <wols> delinquentme: man ping. look at the "-c" option
[15:22] <oCean> delinquentme: ping -c -i 5
[15:23] <delinquentme> yeah i was doing it right ... loosk like AWS blocks pings .. meh!
[15:23] <ruser> wols: fair enough. however the way i see it, if the package is super small with minimal dependencies, pinning works ok, as long as you are agnostic of what you are doing
[15:23] <wols> ruser: "agnostic of what you are doing" == "if you don't care what you are doing" fyi
[15:23] <anoob> rww, isn't radeon about ati cards?
[15:24] <oCean> delinquentme: actually   ping -c 20 -i 5  will give a sequence of 20 pings, with interval of 5 seconds
[15:24] <oCean> delinquentme: oh, didn't see your last post, nvm
[15:24] <wols> ruser: and apache is not small. a script which is available for architecture "all" is fine with pinning usually. a binary, especially like apache, is not
[15:24] <rww> anoob: oh, crap, you said Intel. Sorry, I read HD 3xxx and assumed ATI. Is Intel using that versioning now too?
[15:24] <ikonia> rww: only for sound
[15:24] <rww> :|
[15:24] <wols> ikonia: huh?
[15:24] <ruser> wols: point taken on apache.
[15:25] <ikonia> wols: are there now intel video cards with HD as the reference
[15:25] <ruser> wols: anyhow thanks for the troubleshooting :)
[15:25] <wols> ikonia: yes. since the GMA4500 HD
[15:25] <ikonia> ahhh that's not HD* that's *HD
[15:25] <wols> which was around 3 years ago. newer cards are named GMA HD for first gen core i, and HD200 HD 3000 for 2nd gen core i
[15:26] <wols> *HD 2000
[15:26] <ikonia> I still reference the GMA
[15:26] <wols> not in the latest ones. there it's called simply HD 3000
[15:26] <cba123> I've been trying different file index searchers, but tracker, beagle and google desktop don't seem to search everything I have.  Are there any alternatives?
[15:27] <anoob> no problem
[15:27] <ikonia> wols: certainly not seen them
[15:27] <anoob> no problem rww
[15:28] <wols> ikonia: intel marketing dept is very sorry to hear that. all those billions spent in vain :(
[15:28] <ikonia> wols: I am a hard sell
[15:29] <wols> that's why they packaged it into the cpu: so you have to buy it if you buy a cpu, no matter what. sly buggers these intel guys
[15:29] <ravishekhar> wols:I have installed oxforddictionary.exe using wine but it doesn't work properly.the same software run smoothly in windows.wat sud i do??
[15:30] <oCean> ravishekhar: #winehq for application help with wine
[15:30] <wols> ravishekhar: appdb.winehq.org  check if it runs properly in wine at all. and not every windows program does. what you can do is fix wine yourself by making it better
[15:30] <ravishekhar> wols:tanx
[15:30] <ravishekhar> ocean:tanx
[15:31] <ThinkT510> ravishekhar: if you want windows programs running flawlessly use a windows vm in virtualbox (with the exception of 3d apps)
[15:32] <ravishekhar> Think...:ok
[15:32] <ThinkT510> ravishekhar: most times though it is better to look for native alternatives
[15:35] <ravishekhar> when I install a new package,after installation a window opens ,showing operation failed. Wat is d prblm?
[15:35] <wols> ravishekhar: apt-get install <package>    then paste us the output
[15:35] <ravishekhar> wols:ok
[15:40] <p01son> try apt-get clean
[15:45] <krzysz00> Does anyone know how to do a permission-preserving backup to an ntfs filesystem with fsync?
[15:45] <krzysz00> *rsync
[15:45] <adubz> i accidently created a symbolic link to an existing directory /var/www/  how do i remove htis symbolic link
[15:45] <fabiobik> hi guys
[15:45] <ThinkT510> !rsync | krzysz00
[15:45] <fabiobik> can please test this page if works? http://gatinhamolhadinha.pt.vu/  here gives me an 404 error ...
[15:46] <fabiobik> im at my ubuntu server
[15:46] <tyler_d> what happened to Xorg's -scanpci command? anyone know where it is please?
[15:46] <dr_willis> theres an works here fabiobik
[15:47] <Infernet> work
[15:47] <fabiobik> ok
[15:47] <fabiobik> mayble its the cache
[15:47] <fabiobik> here
[15:47] <fabiobik> thanks
[15:47] <Infernet> nice index
[15:49] <b0ba> ubottu: GRUB2 doesn't detect software raid as md0. my server is bricked
[15:49] <wrtiii> Where's the best place to make a forum post for generic linux problems?
[15:50] <Pici> wrtiii: ##linux
[15:50] <tyler_d> linux.org
[15:50] <tyler_d> Pici: forum
[15:50] <Pici> tyler_d: Ask in ##linux then, as it clearly isn't on-topic for #ubuntu
[15:50] <AndreiT> hello
[15:51] <wols> tyler_d: what do you need this command for?
[15:51] <AndreiT> I have a file that is supposed to fix the perl-tk package from cpan, but it is a dpatch, how do i execute this?
[15:52] <b0ba> what channel is the best for grub2 questions ?
[15:52] <tyler_d> wols: trying to configure the xorg.conf with the BusID - found hte card using lspci | less however I don't know the correct formatting, ie. PCI:xxxx:xx:xx
[15:53] <tyler_d> wols: and supposedly Xorg -scanpci works for this
[15:53] <wols> tyler_d: lspci shows it to you too. and why do you need the BusID? do you have more than one card?
[15:53] <wols> why do you need a xorg.conf in the first place?
[15:54] <tyler_d> wols: yes, and no it gives it in formatting such as: 01:00.0 xorg expects formatting such as PCI:0000:00:00 does it not?
[15:54] <tyler_d> wols: p.s. the above 01:00.0 is directly from mine
[15:55] <wols> tyler_d: why do you need the bus id?
[15:58] <faint545> is there like a social ubuntu channel?
[15:58] <faint545> instead of a support channel?
[15:59] <hilikus> Can't this be both?
[15:59] <faint545> well i figured since it says it a support channel.
[15:59] <ThinkT510> !ot | faint545
[15:59] <hilikus> well there you have it
[16:01] <juemo> Hi pals !  My server do not respond to ARP requests.  Anyone got an idea ?
[16:01] <ikonia> juemo: it's not on the network then
[16:02] <juemo> ikonia: this is a LAN, connected by my hand
[16:02] <ikonia> juemo: so ?
[16:03] <ne2k> juemo: what makes you say that it doesn't respond to ARP requests?
[16:03] <juemo> ikonia: I checked with wireshark, sniffed all his interfaces, from itself and from other computers on the network
[16:04] <ne2k> juemo: it is possible to turn off ARP but unless you've done that deliberately it's extremely unlikely
[16:05] <ikonia> just do an arp -a on a device it's connected to
[16:05] <juemo> ne2k: I check with wireshark and I am pretty sure I haven't turned it off
[16:05] <girl> Hi, I have an Intel Gma 950  Graphic Card. My overall performance in natty seems worse than what it was in maverick. I tried xorg-edgers but there was no improvement . Any ideas?
[16:05] <ikonia> juemo: wireshark normally shows tcp
[16:06] <ikonia> juemo: just do an arp -a on something connected to it
[16:06] <ne2k> juemo: so, on the server, you see "ARP who has" broadcasts coming in for an IP that is assigned to the server on the interface that they are coming in on, but no reply going out?
[16:06] <ne2k> juemo: can you paste "ip addr" from the server?
[16:06] <ikonia> arp -a will show the arp
[16:07] <ne2k> ikonia: I think we're slightly more advanced than that
[16:07] <ikonia> why ?
[16:07] <ikonia> you don't need to be
[16:07] <girl> Can someone help me?
[16:07] <juemo>  ne2k: routeur ARPs with right ip, serveur nerver respond
[16:07] <ne2k> girl: just ask your question
[16:07] <sktn07> in 10.4 how to zoom desktop?
[16:07] <girl>  Hi, I have an Intel Gma 950  Graphic Card. My overall performance in natty seems worse than what it was in maverick. I tried xorg-edgers but there was no improvement . Any ideas?
[16:08] <ne2k> juemo: you see the arp who has going out of the router, right? do you see the arp who has coming in on the server?
[16:08] <juemo> arp -a, considering server's ip :? (<IP_ADDRESS>) à <incomplet> sur eth1
[16:08] <ne2k> juemo: what are you running that command on? a client? the router?
[16:08] <juemo> ne2k: yes, i sniffed the interfaces from the routeur and saw the requests
[16:08] <juemo> ne2k: a computer on the network
[16:09] <ne2k> juemo: but how abotu on the server? did you sniff on the server and see the arp who has coming in?
[16:09] <juemo> ne2k: yes,
[16:09] <ne2k> juemo: is the computer on the same subnet as the server and router? if so, why would it be going near the router?
[16:09] <girl> anyone?
[16:10] <sktn07> in 10.4 how to zoom desktop?
[16:10] <sktn07> windows + scroll not working
[16:11] <sktn07> please help
[16:11] <ne2k> sktn07: install compizconfig-settings-manager and then look in there to set up your keybindings
[16:11] <juemo> ne2k: this is a class c network.
[16:11] <ne2k> juemo: oh, not that again
[16:11] <wrtiii> What is the default root password on a ubuntu install
[16:11] <girl> sktn07: elaborate on that
[16:11] <juemo> ne2k: what do you mean ?
[16:11] <rww> !root | wrtiii
[16:12] <girl> wrtiii: See ubottu
[16:12] <sktn07> ne2k : commands to install that?
[16:12] <hilikus> girl:  what about your performance has changed since your upgrade?
[16:12] <girl> wrtiii: You can set a root password with "sudo su" then "passwd" in terminal
[16:12] <ne2k> sktn07: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager then look in system->preferences; accessibiliyt->zoom desktop
[16:13] <rww> !noroot | girl
[16:13] <wrtiii> that bs
[16:13] <robin> #openra
[16:13] <girl> hilikus: Yes using intel arkendale gma 950
[16:13] <wrtiii> thanks girl
[16:13] <ne2k> sktn07: there is "enhanced zoom desktop" too which is better, it hink
[16:13] <girl> wrtiii: No prblem
[16:14] <rww> wrtiii: setting a root password is both pointless and not supported by this channel. If you do it, please do not ask for help with it here.
[16:14] <reaper> whats the point of a root password?
[16:14] <sktn07> ne2k : terminalshows: could not find that package
[16:14] <ne2k> reaper: to be able to log in as root
[16:14] <natty-user> @wrtiii: i've got the same sort of ubuntu installation problem on a pc, still haven't managed to fix it.
[16:14] <Algorith> protection obviously...
[16:14] <maco> reaper: to allow the root user to login. but if you do that, then all your apps are running as root, making you nicely ownable
[16:14] <rww> ne2k: There is no point in doing that.
[16:14] <wrtiii> lol
[16:15] <wrtiii> why is everyone so afraid of root?
[16:15] <reaper> ahh so kind of like the admin?
[16:15] <ne2k> sktn07: do you have universe enabled?
[16:15] <girl> hilikus:Graphics performace in OK but slower than natty and some KDE effects make it really slow, they worked fine on maverick
[16:15] <hilikus> root = admin
[16:15] <juemo> This is a pretty simple class c network: router, laptop, server.  dhcp request from the server to the routeur are ok, but all other never pass through the mac resolution
[16:15] <reaper> got cha
[16:16] <maco> wrtiii: because running as admin all the time is how win95 got to be a hotbed of malware
[16:16] <rww> and 98, and ME, and XP...
[16:16] <sktn07> ne2k : probably not...how to check
[16:16] <ne2k> rww: do not tar XP with the same brush as ME!
[16:16] <reaper> I could see it being useful if you were the only 1 that uses the machine and wasnt online much
[16:16] <ne2k> rww: XP was a solid OS, particularly once it reached SP2, because it was NT-based. 95/98/ME were still DOS-based
[16:16] <hilikus> is this a linux channel or what?  How can people not know what root is?  :S
[16:16] <rww> ne2k: They share the issue of being easier to exploit if you're running as an administrative user, which they use by default.
[16:17] <wrtiii> how the hell are you supposed to efficiently preform administrative tasks without using root
[16:17] <Algorith> more like only if it never goes online and you always know exactly what you're doing
[16:17] <ne2k> hilikus: no, it's not a linux channel, it's a ubuntu channel.
[16:17] <rww> wrtiii: sudo, as you've been told
[16:17] <reaper> loltrue
[16:17] <hilikus> lol
[16:17] <reaper> er true
[16:17] <ne2k> rww: I guess XP home did, yes, I agree
[16:17] <rww> ne2k: true
[16:17] <wrtiii> I said efficiently rww
[16:17] <rww> wrtiii: and I said sudo
[16:17] <wrtiii> lol
[16:18] <qin> wrtiii: sudo -i, or extend sudo time
[16:18] <wrtiii> you've obviously never been getting shot @ while trying to work on a system, lol
[16:18] <hilikus> I just installed ubuntu on my netbook... mostly run openSuSE
[16:18] <Algorith> hopefully few people have
[16:18] <ne2k> juemo: can you try connecting computer directly to server with a crossover cable and see if ARP works then? (you'll need to set static addresses)
[16:19] <ne2k> juemo: this will narrow it does to any APs or switches as the source of the problem
[16:19] <ne2k> juemo: is the laptop connected to the network with wireless? how is the AP configured? could it have any restrictions on it?
[16:24] <xt3mp0r> which term from /proc/meminfo shows the actual free RAM? -/+ buffers/cache
[16:25] <daan4711> hi
[16:26] <Blackhold> hi, someone could sayme where I could find repos for ubuntu 9.04?
[16:26] <roasted> Is there a quick way to add 60 new users to Ubuntu?
[16:27] <roasted> I just need 60 test users. user1, user2 user, 3etc.
[16:27] <ikonia> roasted: script
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, would it be possible to do the password thing in a script?
[16:27] <hilikus> xt3mp0r: memfree
[16:27] <ikonia> roasted: yup
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, hm. can you give me an example of how this would work?
[16:27] <reaper> so in natty, how do I adjust things like time it takes for the screen saver and stuff?
[16:27] <roasted> ikonia, just 60 lines with sudo useradd user1 etc?
[16:28] <ikonia> roasted: while loop, 1 - 60 useradd user$ that sort of thing
[16:28] <roasted> ikonia, okay... I'm a little rusty in this area. I remember using that sort of command before...
[16:30] <joao> oaskeoas
[16:30] <xt3mp0r> hilikus: It doesn't show the actual free RAM. http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ you need to read this if you haven't yet.
[16:31] <plustax> Can someone help me out? I am trying to put win 7 back on my laptop. Right now I have just Ubuntu on it taking up the full disc but I dont know how to switch back
[16:32] <ikonia> plustax: just install windows over the top
[16:32] <ikonia> plustax: the guys in ##windows can help you with that
[16:32] <redmarv> hi all
[16:32] <plustax> ikonia thats it?
[16:32] <wols> plustax: boot from a live cd and resize your ubuntu partition so you make room for windows. then boot a windows CD and install it to that free space. last, reinstall grub
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, you want JUST windows?
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, no ubuntu?
[16:32] <redmarv> anyone have used ocrad or tesseract or gocr?
[16:32] <plustax> wols I want JUST windows
[16:32] <plustax> right
[16:32] <wols> plustax: then as ikonia said
[16:32] <roasted> plustax, yep, that's all you do
[16:33] <mang0> plustax: in that case just do a fresh windows install
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, just put windows CD in, format drive, install windows, good to go :)
[16:33] <mang0> if you don't want ubuntu
[16:33] <plustax> okay so its just a regular install then.
[16:33] <mang0> yeah
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, absolutely
[16:33] <mang0> plustax: you will lose all your data on your ubuntu.
[16:33] <mang0> be warned.
[16:33] <sktn07> in appearance preference > visual effect screen is not ok....see http://imagebin.org/165471
[16:33] <plustax> That's fine, I just backed everything up.
[16:33] <mang0> In that case go go go!
[16:33] <roasted> plustax, you typically format a drive when you install an operating system. formatting is wiping and preparing the drive. This thereby deletes ubuntu in the process.
[16:33] <mang0> :)
[16:33] <redmarv> plustax: or just find for a Fix MBR on your windows
[16:33] <plustax> No worries, I am still running Ubuntu on my desktop!
[16:33] <mang0> oh
[16:33] <mang0> good
[16:33] <mang0> :D
[16:33] <sktn07> please help with proper direction
[16:33] <roasted> redmarv, he doesn't have windows installed at all
[16:34] <roasted> redmarv, he just wants to ditch ubuntu entirely and install windows back
[16:34] <redmarv> ah, so, install windows :P
[16:34] <redmarv> however
[16:34] <roasted> :)
[16:34] <plustax> Well thanks guys.
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, we'll miss you! :P
[16:34] <redmarv> Someone knows ocrad or similar software?
[16:34] <plustax> So I dont have to reinstall some bootloader or something?
[16:34] <ikonia> plustax: no
[16:34] <mang0> plustax: no
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, no, installing Windows takes care of installing the Windows boot loader.
[16:34] <plustax> I dont know how to boot to the windows cd
[16:34] <mang0> Only if you're having ubuntu as well
[16:34] <roasted> plustax, do you have a dell?
[16:34] <wols> plustax: windows does this by default on its own
[16:34] <mang0> plustax: put the cd in. reboot
[16:34] <plustax> oh okay
[16:34] <plustax> cool
[16:34] <mang0> lol
[16:34] <reaper> is there a way to set lik screen saver time and stuff?
[16:34] <sktn07> i am using 10.4 version....in notebook atom processor
[16:34] <plustax> well Ill see you in a few!
[16:35] <roasted> plustax, good luck
[16:35] <mang0> gl
[16:35] <mang0> :)
[16:35] <sktn07> please  help
[16:35] <redmarv> guys? have you used ocrad or gocr or tesseract on ubuntu?
[16:35] <redmarv> I need advice...
[16:35] <redmarv> uhm I mean help
[16:35] <wols> redmarv: ask your real question
[16:36] <mang0> Right guys, I'm setting up a blog with blogger. I've found a theme that I like, but I need to edit it. I know basic HTML, but I'd quite like to edit it graphically as well as the raw code. Is there a program that I can edit it with? Like, with clicking and dragging, and also with re-writing code....
[16:36] <mang0> (for ubuntu, of course)
[16:36] <tyler_d> if anyone would please help me with a PCI bus address here are the details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654610/
[16:36] <wols> tyler_d: I'm still waiting for an answer btw
[16:37] <redmarv> so, if I use one of those software with an image created with gimp (with some numbers) they recognize it very well, finding the right chars in it, but i I use an image from a cam (mobile phone camera) it doens't work...
[16:37] <tyler_d> wols: what was the question again please
[16:38] <wols> tyler_d: nvm. what drivers do you intend to use?
[16:38] <tyler_d> wols: I would like to use the proprietary nvidia drivers
[16:38] <wols> tyler_d: with optimus?
[16:39] <tyler_d> wols: sorry, what is optimus?
[16:39] <wols> tyler_d: if you use the proprietary nvidia drivers, run nvidia-xconfig (IIRC) and you're done
[16:39] <wols> tyler_d:no need for Bus ID
[16:39] <Eighteens> i just updated my ubuntu 10.04 lucid, and after reboot, my sound icon is muted, and WONT un-mute, and it shows no hardware installed, can somone help me
[16:40] <redmarv> wols: that was my real question :P
[16:40] <wols> redmarv: no it was not
[16:40] <tyler_d> wols: unfortunately no, as xorg grabs the first pci bus it finds the nvidia in this laptop is on a lower pci bus and therefor needs to be hard-coded
[16:40] <tyler_d> wols: I have attempted that, and many variations of that
[16:40] <wols> tyler_d: you put in "nvidia" into your xorg.conf and it will grab that
[16:41] <wols> tyler_d: and your Xorg.0.log clearly shows how the busid needs to look
[16:41] <tyler_d> wols: no it does not. maybe it is supposed to..
[16:41] <redmarv> wols: ehm,  wanted to know if there is a reason for this. Pics from camera don't work with gocr ocrad or similar software/
[16:41] <shinkamui> how do I start the installer in text mode on 10.10 and above
[16:41] <ikonia> shinkamui: you use the alternative CD for that
[16:41] <tyler_d> wols: that is how it was set the last time I booted, the star beside the bus from Xorg.0.log indicates the card it tried to load
[16:42] <wols> redmarv: "real question" was in response to "anyone use X" you asked. that is never the real question but a waste of time of others
[16:42] <shinkamui> ikonia, this isn't a standard ubuntu disk, whats the command line command tos tart the text installer normally
[16:42] <ikonia> shinkamui: sorry, we don't support non-standard ubuntu installers
[16:42] <wols> tyler_d: can you paste your xorg.conf and your Xorg.0.log output for it. I think you rather have a mux problem, since you have an Optimus enabled laptop
[16:42] <BluesKaj> shinkamui, alternate?
[16:43] <tyler_d> wols: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11098771#post11098771
[16:43] <tyler_d> wols: ty for your help btw
[16:43] <redmarv> wols: man I'm not using X, I'm working remote via ssh if you want to know, so, I asked only if anyone knows if there are some particular condition to have those software working well with pics from a camera. just this
[16:44] <redmarv> ah
[16:44] <pingveno> Is there any lovely, wonderful place to get python2.7 packages for Ubuntu versions 10.04 and 10.10?
[16:44] <wols> tyler_d: that's not what I asked for at all and I don't troubleshoot nvidia.run installers which break things all the time
[16:44] <redmarv> X was not x.org... btw I wrote down the real one later...
[16:44] <ikonia> pingveno: no
[16:45] <tyler_d> wols: ok, I will repost them to pastebin
[16:45] <pingveno> No extra backports area that someone has set up?
[16:45] <pingveno> set up Python 2.7*
[16:46] <tyler_d> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654616/
[16:47] <Eighteens> what would cause ubuntu to not see my sound card after a year of having it working, after update, and reboot, no sound anymore
[16:47] <tyler_d> wols: to clarify as well, the only way I could get an xorg.conf file was to use the nvidia-xorg command, hence the comment at the top of xorg.conf
[16:48] <wols> tyler_d: that is the proper command for nvidia proprietary drivers
[16:48] <tyler_d> wols: ok.
[16:48] <Spikestuff> Is there a way to install Fedora Linux using Ubuntu, possibly by using apt-get or some other method?
[16:48] <ikonia> shinkamui: no
[16:49] <Troy^> Spikestuff: no, you need to install fedora similiar to the way you did ubuntu
[16:49] <ikonia> Spikestuff: no
[16:49] <TheTongue> Qemu / Virtual Box
[16:49] <wols> tyler_d: cat /sys/http://paste.ubuntu.com/654616/
[16:49] <ikonia> TheTongue: read what he asked
[16:49] <wols> tyler_d: cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[16:50] <Troy^> hmm i have 12,000 songs and banshee doesnt seem to really like it
[16:50] <Troy^> i cant seem to play songs in it because its always trying to download album cover art
[16:50] <Spikestuff> Actually ikonia, TheTongue is correct... it is possible to use VirtualBox and qemu to create a virtual image from Ubuntu and via a Live CD to bypass certain things that the Live CD requires, such as a RAM requirement...
[16:50] <ikonia> Spikestuff: sorry, no it's not
[16:50] <Spikestuff> ikonia: http://dcr226.co.uk/blog/?p=87
[16:50] <ikonia> Spikestuff: that is not installing fedora using ubuntu, that is using a virtual machine
[16:51] <Spikestuff> It's through Ubuntu if you're running the VM on Ubuntu. :>
[16:51] <Troy^> doh!
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: no, it's not
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: hence why you asked like using "apt-get" the answer is "no"
[16:51] <ikonia> Spikestuff: if you question is can you install Fedora in blank virtual machine, yes, you can
[16:51] <Spikestuff> I am off that subject now, I am just telling you that TheTongue is correct. :)
[16:52] <TheTongue> Thanks you Spikestuff :) , but I didn't read any other lines above what he said
[16:52] <ikonia> Spikestuff: and I'm telling you he's not, or your question was incorrect
[16:52] <Troy^> any suggestions for mp3 player? banshee doesnt like my huge library
[16:52] <Spikestuff> How can a question be incorrect? :o
[16:52] <ronqbc> i've weird behivour with ubuntu. the desktop is often appears and some windows get opened. then the window control is getting away. i don't like the classic system at all. what can i do? switch to win 7?
[16:52] <TheTongue> then use a chroot jail, but thats not 100% safe
[16:52] <ikonia> Spikestuff: you asked can you install fedora using ubuntu - no you cannot, ubuntu is a self contained operating system
[16:53] <wols> ikonia: isn't there something like debootstrap for fedora?
[16:53] <tyler_d> wols: unsure which file you would like.
[16:53] <ikonia> wols: totally, but it won't work with version 15
[16:53] <tyler_d> wols: acer-wmi  bdi  bluetooth  dri  extfrag  gpio  ips  kprobes  mce  pktcdvd  regulator  sched_features  tracing  usb  wakeup_sources  x86
[16:53] <wols> tyler_d: there is no file. there is some output, hopefully
[16:53] <mang0> How do I remove a PPA?
[16:53] <Tbruff13> can someone help me with a totem error i am just warning i am using debian
[16:53] <friendlyfire> can someone help me figure out how to mount an external drive to ubuntu 10.04 i am new to ubuntu and cannot figure it out. I am guessing it's not just plug and play and it doesn't just show up under "computer"
[16:54] <wols>  /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  is a single file. if there, I want its content
[16:54] <wols> friendlyfire: it should be
[16:54] <vlt> friendlyfire: Usually it should.
[16:54] <friendlyfire> it should just show up?
[16:54] <Troy^> hmm my subwoofer on my asus g73jh laptop is not working
[16:54] <vlt> friendlyfire: Yes. Is it USB?
[16:54] <friendlyfire> i have one of those adapters that allows you to hook up an internal drive to a usb port
[16:54] <friendlyfire> but it doesn't just show up
[16:55] <TheTongue> whats a PPA ?
[16:55] <tyler_d> wols: stat: cannot stat `/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch': No such file or directory
[16:55] <Troy^> anyone want to help and get my built-in subwoofer on my asus g73jh laptop to work? or know where i could start
[16:55] <friendlyfire> it is usb
[16:55] <vlt> friendlyfire: Can you open a terminal and type "lsusb" to list the devices recognised?
[16:55] <Autodidactite> Okay how go I force quit a GUI app in 11.04
[16:55] <Autodidactite> ?
[16:55] <Tbruff13> the error happens when ever i try to use the youtube plugin in totem i get the error gstreamer general library error
[16:55] <shishir> how to make pendrive bootable ?
[16:55] <HeatHawk[R5]> ubuntu on usb3 seems to fuck up uuid stuff so it wont boot, whats the solution for that? hard code the root= to a device id?
[16:55] <friendlyfire> ok i typed lsusb
[16:56] <vlt> shishir: By installing GRUB on it, for example.
[16:56] <friendlyfire> i see my logitech wireless thing for my mouse
[16:56] <vlt> friendlyfire: Is your USB/HD adapter listed?
[16:56] <friendlyfire> i don't see it
[16:56] <friendlyfire> should it say "western digital"
[16:56] <Tbruff13> this is the technical error i get swf @ 0x24ba590] Compressed SWF format not supported
[16:56] <Tbruff13> ** Message: Error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.
[16:56] <Tbruff13> gstffmpegdemux.c(1243): gst_ffmpegdemux_open (): /GstPlayBin2:play/GstURIDecodeBin:uridecodebin0/GstDecodeBin2:decodebin20/ffdemux_swf:ffdemux_swf0:
[16:56] <Tbruff13> Input/output error
[16:56] <hilikus> Autodidactite:  in terminal type "top".. you should see the acting up program... get the PID and then type kill *PID*
[16:56] <vlt> friendlyfire: Depends on the device.
[16:57] <friendlyfire> well i only have 4 usb ports
[16:57] <shishir> vlt i want to install one more OS (windows)thats why i want to make it bootable please tell me the whole process
[16:57] <vlt> friendlyfire: type "dmesg" please to see a list of system messages from the kernel.
[16:57] <friendlyfire> i have linux foundation  2.0 root hub
[16:57] <vlt> friendlyfire: Then have a look at the last 20 lines or so
[16:58] <vlt> friendlyfire: Does something happen with "usb", "ehci", "ohci" or similar?
[16:58] <friendlyfire> it says attached scsi disk
[16:58] <vlt> friendlyfire: Type "blkid" to list all block devices with file systems on it.
[16:58] <tyler_d> wols: did I miss something there?
[16:59] <friendlyfire> it says usb-storage: device found at 3
[16:59] <friendlyfire> i typed blkid
[16:59] <shishir>  i want to install one more OS (windows)thats why i want to make pemdrive bootable please tell me the whole process
[16:59] <vlt> shishir: Where do you want to install anothe OS?
[16:59] <vlt> !repeat | shishir
[17:00] <Eighteens> i get a message cant find alsamixer, this was after todays update, no sound, thanks ubuntu... gota love it
[17:00] <shishir> vlt in my computer
[17:00] <shishir> vlt i want to operating systems
[17:00] <vlt> shishir: So, why do you think you need a bootable USB drive then?
[17:01] <shishir> vlt i dont have cd/dvd rom
[17:01] <wols> tyler_d:sudo mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug/   then check for the switch file again please
[17:01] <vlt> shishir: Can you please elaborate?
[17:01] <tyler_d> wols: mount: none already mounted or /sys/kernel/debug/ busy
[17:01] <tyler_d> mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys/kernel/debug
[17:02] <antlong> how do you switch from the newer unity to the classic one?
[17:02] <antlong> im over vnc, so i cant do it from the login screen
[17:02] <wols> tyler_d: then it should be there :(
[17:02] <dr3mro> gnome 3 vs unity memory usage who have any idea ??
[17:02] <shishir> vlt i dont have cd rom drive thats why i can't install it with CD/DVD therefore i want to install through USB
[17:02] <dr3mro> which is lighter unity or gnome 3
[17:02] <Mark[Ping]> ok can someone help me please.
[17:03] <vlt> shishir: I'm not sure whether another OS will let itself install from a USB drive.
[17:03] <tyler_d> wols: soooo....
[17:03] <Mark[Ping]> Linux fails so badly... Why wont it let me click allow on adobe flash player settings
[17:03] <lulu> luisal
[17:04] <wols> tyler_d: I have a similar setup like yours: internal intel graphics and a amd 3470m. and that vgaswitcheroo file decides which ones ir run when loading X
[17:04] <shishir> vlt then how i can install new OS please tell me
[17:04] <lulu> hello everyone
[17:04] <lulu> need some help
[17:04] <lulu> got some probs with the wifi
[17:04] <tyler_d> wols: CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y
[17:04] <wols> tyler_d: can you paste the output of ls /sys/kernel/debug and the output of cat /etc/fstab  please?
[17:05] <hilikus> shishir, maybe this will help; http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[17:05] <wols> tyler_d: that's a kernel parameter. needed for the debug file above to work but there is more needed :)
[17:06] <tyler_d> wols: pretty sure if the dir doesn't exist you have to touch it no?
[17:06] <ronqbc> i've weird behivour with ubuntu. the desktop is often appears and some windows get opened. then the window control is getting away. i don't like the classic system at all. what can i do? switch to win 7?
[17:06] <wols> tyler_d: no
[17:06] <wols> tyler_d: kinda pointless to touch stuff in /sys... it's not a real filesystem you know
[17:07] <Mark[Ping]> wols. Linux fails so badly... Why wont it let me click allow on adobe flash player settings
[17:07] <vlt> shishir: For installing another OS you need to make some room for it. You can use tools like cfdisk, parted or gparted to resize your current and create new partitions for a new OS. Then follow the install manual of your OS.
[17:07] <tyler_d> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/654624/
[17:07] <hilikus> shishir you can always go the VM route....
[17:07] <pingveno> Mark[Ping]: synaptic is your friend
[17:07] <wols> Mark[Ping]: ask adobe. it's their POS software
[17:07] <tyler_d> wols: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[17:07] <MrNthDegree> Mark[Ping], that isn't the fault of Linux, Flash sucks in general
[17:08] <shishir> vlt i have available room for new OS
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> Well for some odd reason... Adobe always lets me click allow in any other os.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> Windows, OSX.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> But when i try ubuntu all i get is erros and problems.
[17:08] <Mark[Ping]> errors*
[17:08] <Timvde> gnome-power-manager is using 102MB RAM atm. I guess it's not meant to do that? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d: have you tried what's described on that page?
[17:09] <tyler_d> wols: not yet, your helping me and I didn't want to throw a wrench in it. however thought it note-worthy and possibly worth a try
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d:also, google for your laptop model and "Linux"
[17:09] <wols> tyler_d: it is worth a try and you should try it
[17:10] <tyler_d> wols: probably comes back with explicit lang in google
[17:10] <tyler_d> wols: :p
[17:10] <wols> tyler_d: but /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch is not there  as you said
[17:10] <wols> you have enabled KMS?
[17:10] <wols> tyler_d: very much possible. you have an acer after all... :P
[17:11] <wols> tyler_d: btw, why do you want the nvidia drivers?
[17:11] <tyler_d> wols: wouldn't surprise me; work just got it for me **shrugs** -- I don't really care what driver is specified, the important thing to me is that its utilizing the right video card, and its not
[17:12] <chocolates> how do i get steam to work on 10.10?
[17:12] <wols> tyler_d: I suggest you set it to "discrete" in BIOS and check the Xorg.0.log. you can always install irssi in text mode and come here to get help debugging the problem too
[17:13] <wols> tyler_d: what do you need the nvidia card for? the intel is fine for most stuff, no? no 3D but a lot less battery usage
[17:13] <tyler_d> wols: I will give that another try, I did try it before with poor results however. and no x-loading either
[17:13] <wols> chocolates: install wine, run it in wine.
[17:13] <reaper> steam.. did't even think thatwas possible
[17:13] <wols> tyler_d: it doesn't matter if X loads then. just save you Xorg.0.log when it doens#t run so we can look at it :)
[17:13] <tyler_d> wols: as of right now even the default won't load with unity :( and it did before all this garbage started
[17:14] <wols> tyler_d: you installed nvidia proprietary drivers therefore killing your mesa. and you installed it via nvidia.com drivers which is stupid to do
[17:15] <tyler_d> wols: not overtly impressed at this point. you would think an app that builds from source would have its bits and bobs together
[17:15] <chocolates> Does anybody know how to get steam working on ubuntu?
[17:16] <hilikus> chocolates...like previously said, use wine... it works perfectly.
[17:16] <chocolates> hilikus: It says connecting to (myaccounthere)... And then nothing happens
[17:16] <chocolates> ._.
[17:17] <tyler_d> wols: so no the question is how do I blow away the .run garbage
[17:17] <Troy^> how does one change the read only setting of a conf file (/etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:18] <dr3mro> is there any other kernel derived from linux kernel that can be used instead of the generic kernel of ubuntu to boost more speed ???
[17:18] <chocolates> What is the wine channel???
[17:19] <hilikus> check the wine db website, they have lots of info on troubleshooting, most likely your issue is already listed and resolved.
[17:19] <Troy^> i need to help to edit a config file it is read only i even used this command but it seems like im still not able to edit it sudo chmod u+w /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:20] <chocolates> hilikus: Do you know the name of the IRC channel? :x
[17:20] <__sorin__> Hi. What's the terminal sequence for the META key similar to ^[ for ESCAPE?
[17:20] <hilikus> sorry, no I don't
[17:20] <reaper> you could use mint for more speed
[17:20] <tyler_d> __sorin__: ctrl-d?
[17:20] <reaper> nvm dumb answer lol
[17:20] <tyler_d> __sorin__: or in ssh its ~
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: gksudo gedit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[17:21] <newb> Is there a way to strenthen the reciever of the wifi in ubuntu?
[17:21] <lulu> sorry again
[17:21] <__sorin__> tyler_d: ctrl-d, as in kill my shell? Very funny… not.
[17:21] <lulu> may i ask someone's help
[17:22] <lulu> wifi is no more recognized
[17:22] <hilikus> lulu: just ask
[17:22] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: ty
[17:22] <lulu> from my pc
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: just ask :-)
[17:22] <tyler_d> __sorin__: wsan't trying to be funny sorry, what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:22] <lulu> can't fix the problem
[17:23] <lulu> since i distupgraded
[17:23] <__sorin__> tyler_d: Setup key bindings. So, I need to know the escape sequence for the meta key, aka ALT, or option on Mac.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: if you explain the issue on one line we may be able to hell
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Help
[17:23] <hilikus> lulu: in the terminal, what is the results of the command ip addr show ??
[17:23] <antlong> what is this? http://d.pr/nFM0
[17:23] <hilikus> do you see wlan listed?
[17:23] <lulu> it seems like it doen't recognize the pw
[17:24] <lulu> but the pw it's fine
[17:24] <lulu> found many threads
[17:24] <lulu> on line
[17:24] <lulu> about this
[17:24] <lulu> it seems it's a prob that came with 11.04
[17:24] <Xpistos> Hi everyone. I was hoping someone could help me with a problem. I am trying to update my wife's Natty desktop but when I do I get several error messages that look like - W: Failed to fetch http://us.sudo/dists/wget/universe/i18n/Index  No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.sudo_dists_wget_universe_i18n_Index
[17:25] <Xpistos> not sure what is wrong. I am in the CLI and it using sudo apt-get update
[17:25] <tyler_d> __sorin__: sorry, not a clue :(
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> antlong: my guess is scoll/caps/numlock indicator
[17:25] <ikonia> Xpistos: thats an external repo that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:26] <__sorin__> tyler_d: I noticed when you suggest CTRL+D.
[17:26] <ikonia> Xpistos: it also appears to not be an valid fully qualified domain
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: why are you hitting enter after every 3 words?
[17:26] <tyler_d> __sorin__: ssh escape sequence is ~ .... thats as far as I go :P
[17:27] <juemo> ne2k: excuse me for the long wait.  I am connect to the server with static adress on another interface.  No wireless connexion are enabled.
[17:27] <tyler_d> __sorin__: sorry, not true, screen escape sequence is ctrl+a, esc
[17:27] <Nebula> Hey everyone, is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.04?
[17:27] <ikonia> !upgrade | Nebula
[17:27] <Xpistos> ikonia: what about this - Get:27 http://us.sudo wget/universe TranslationIndex
[17:27] <Xpistos> Err http://us.sudo wget/http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release i386 Packages
[17:27] <Xpistos>   Undetermined Error
[17:27] <Xpistos> Sorry
[17:27] <lulu> sory, bad habit
[17:27] <lulu> sorry*
[17:27] <wols> tyler_d: reinstall mesa for starters
[17:28] <Nebula> ikonia, does that really work for LTS to a normal version?
[17:28] <ikonia> Xpistos: first one is not a valid fully qualified domain, second is a repository that's nothing to do with #ubuntu,
[17:28] <wols> tyler_d: and later if you want to, reinstall nvidia drivers. this time from the ubuntu repos
[17:28] <ikonia> Nebula: have you read the url ?
[17:28] <tyler_d> wols: what package is mesa specifically :(
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: indeed, i did say use one line. You didn't even explain your issue
[17:28] <Nebula> ikonia, im opening them now.... but i did a google on it before i came in here :D
[17:28] <wayne> ok this is my first time on here
[17:28] <wols> tyler_d: dpkg -l |grep mesa. reinstall them all
[17:28] <ikonia> Nebula: how about reading the URL then
[17:29] <Troy^> there got my built-in subwoofer on laptop to work
[17:29] <Nebula> ikonia, yeah im on it :P
[17:29] <lulu> don't know how to explain when i click on the icon to connect it takes forever
[17:29] <lulu> and it doen't connect
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: all we currently know is there is a password involved and you took all those lines.
[17:30] <lulu> asking again and again the pw (that o enter right)
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: so its a WIRELESS issue?
[17:30] <lulu> it's not the pw
[17:30] <wayne> alright, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on my fujitsu lifebook t 4215 and my battery life indicator says six hours but it really is only about 2 hrs what is wrong?
[17:30] <lulu> it's a wireless issue
[17:30] <lulu> YES
[17:30] <lulu> as i wrote
[17:30] <lulu> first line
[17:30] <FloodBot1> lulu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <gizmobay> How can I allow a user to run this command without sudo? sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:30] <lulu> of those many line
[17:30] <hilikus> lulu: are other computers able to connect to the wireless?
[17:30] <lulu> yes
[17:31] <tyler_d> wols: dpkg -l |grep mesa | awk '{ print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Lulu: then why not say that? Why was that not part of your details?
[17:31] <ikonia> gizmobay: you don't you give them sudo access to that command
[17:31] <gizmobay> You mean add them to the sudo'ers file
[17:31] <gizmobay> the command that is?
[17:31] <ikonia> gizmobay: I mean create a sudo rule for them , that will only allow them to run that command
[17:32] <Nebula> yeah, got it, thanks ikonia.... and /facedesk for me since it was just a setting that needed change... :P
[17:32] <tyler_d> wols: tyvm for your help. I'm going to bounce this and see how she goes
[17:32] <wayne> can someone help me with my problem please
[17:32] <ikonia> gizmobay: that option will be set in the /etc/sudoers file using the command visudo
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: i recommend you remove the ppa you added so it is smooth then readd it properly
[17:33] <gizmobay> ikonia: this still means I need to use the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:33] <gizmobay> I can't have sudo
[17:33] <Xpistos> I havent' added a ppa in the last 6 months that I know of
[17:33] <fVckingmania> alguien que me pueda ayudar con un parche en el kernel!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
[17:33] <ikonia> gizmobay: why ?
[17:33] <ikonia> Xpistos: no-one said you have
[17:34] <UbuntuFan> guys, how can I enable desktop icons on Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[17:34] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: Xpistos: i recommend you remove the ppa you added so it is smooth then readd it properly
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: looks like you tried to add the medibuntu repo but either botched the command or pasted the command in sources.list which is incorrect
[17:34] <fVckingmania> hi I need help with my kernel!!
[17:34] <Technicus> Is it possible to install glibc?
[17:35] <vlt> !dedatils | fVckingmania
[17:35] <ikonia> fVckingmania: then ask a question
[17:35] <ikonia> Technicus: it'e already installed, it's the most important library on your system
[17:35] <shoenig> Technicus, i would certainly hope so
[17:35]  * vlt fail
[17:35] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: This started happening on monday and I add medibuntu to her computer when I installed it in April
[17:35] <UbuntuFan> googles not helping, the alt-f2 doesnt work to open the run window
[17:35] <fVckingmania> can any one tell me how too list all patch charged to my kernel??
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntufan: there is no netbook remix these days
[17:35] <gizmobay> ikonia: My problem is I need the comand to restart my wifi since it goes down. I have a script and cron to check. The problem is without a network sudo doesn't work as it says host not found.
[17:35] <ikonia> fVckingmania: you can't, it's a precompiled binary
[17:36] <ikonia> gizmobay: then your machine is setup incorrectly
[17:36] <UbuntuFan> so you wont help?
[17:36] <Technicus> ikonia: How do I check to see that it is insatlled?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: back out the change you made
[17:36] <ikonia> Technicus: does your ubuntu machine boot
[17:36] <vlt> fVckingmania: You can install linux-source packages and read ;-)
[17:36] <ikonia> gizmobay: what version (exactly) of ubuntu are you using
[17:36] <gizmobay> 10.04
[17:37] <ikonia> gizmobay: please paste your /etc/hosts file
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntufan: do you have a desktop with a top bar and icons down the left?
[17:37] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: I didn't make any changes
[17:37] <fVckingmania> ikonia, I compile the kernel <IP_ADDRESS> and I add a patch, how can I know if it's charged??
[17:37] <ikonia> fVckingmania: if you're compiling kernels, you should know what you're doing, we don't support your custom kernels in this channel
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: you must have, medibuntu is not a default repo
[17:38] <Tigerboy> anyone mind giving me the ifconfig and route commands to get networking working in recovery mode...or if there is a better way.
[17:38] <Technicus> ikonia: From what I am learning Ubuntu uses eglibc which is a fork of glibc: [ http://www.eglibc.org/faq ].  I don't totally understand what it is though.
[17:38] <juemo> Hi pals !  My server do not respond to ARP requests.  Anyone got an idea ?  Details here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/654640/
[17:38] <newb> can you increase the wifi recieve strength in a laptop?
[17:38] <gizmobay> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/g4nQJvNe
[17:38] <ubuntuuseronlyju> yeah i have the icons down the right side
[17:38] <ikonia> Technicus: correct, but it is your libc library, so it's installed if your machine boots
[17:38] <Xpistos> ActionParsnip: I have not added anything new on this computer since I installed it in April except gprename
[17:38] <Xpistos> and that was 2 weeks ago
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tigerboy: sudo dhclient eth0    assuming you use wired connection
[17:39] <gardnan> ok, as a poll, how many people are currently using a GUI/Desktop Environment?
[17:39] <ikonia> gizmobay: please show me the ouptut of the command "hostname"
[17:39] <ikonia> gardnan: please don't take polls in here
[17:39] <gardnan> oh sorry
[17:39] <fVckingmania> ikonia, any idea?
[17:39] <ikonia> fVckingmania: totally, and I've just told you that we do not support your custom kernels in here
[17:39] <tapple> is there a way to install ubuntu packages in your home directory without root access? I need to install trickle on a research cluster running ubuntu x64
[17:39] <ikonia> tapple: not using the package manager
[17:39] <gizmobay> john-desktop
[17:40] <Technicus> Technicus: Well . . . ok, thanks :)
[17:40] <noc> seen madara`
[17:40] <tapple> ikonia: didn't think so. thanks
[17:40] <ikonia> gizmobay: ok, so what happens if you try to use sudo
[17:40] <ikonia> noc: the bot does not have a seen function
[17:40] <noc> !seen madara`
[17:40] <tapple> how do I tell which versions of gcc are installed? I need gcc3 to compile the package from source
[17:40] <gizmobay> with network, it works, without i get a host not found
[17:40] <ikonia> tapple: gcc -v
[17:40] <rullie> hi, is there a place where I can find prebuilt debs of like.. everything?
[17:41] <rullie> synaptics is giving me dwm 5.7, but i want 5.9
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: you must have. You can use software centre to remove it, or if you can pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list   we may see the issue
[17:41] <ikonia> gizmobay: that shouldn't be the case as yout hostname is mapped to <IP_ADDRESS> which is localhost
[17:41] <gizmobay> *unable to resolve host I mean
[17:41] <fVckingmania> ikonia, I didn't customize the kernel I just add a patch!!
[17:41] <Tigerboy> rullie: getdeb.net
[17:41] <Technicus> ikonia: Is it possible to switch the system from eglibc to glibc?
[17:41] <ikonia> fVckingmania: that is a custom kernel then
[17:41] <tapple> that only shows the default gcc version
[17:41] <ikonia> Technicus: that is not something you want to do, switching libc versions in any way shape or form is not advised
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | rullie
[17:41] <fVckingmania> ikonia, yes you're rigth
[17:41] <ikonia> tapple: then look in the package manager for other versions installed
[17:41] <tapple> I thought linux systems usually had several gcc versions installed
[17:42] <chocolates> Does mono work on ubuntu?
[17:42] <Technicus> ikonia: How come that is the case?
[17:42] <ikonia> tapple: no, they do not
[17:42] <PatrickC> i just installed chromium
[17:42] <PatrickC> but i dont know where to find it
[17:42] <PatrickC> how do i launch it?
[17:42] <ikonia> Technicus: because it's a core library that everything is built against, changing it will stop things working
[17:42] <Technicus> ikonia: Ok then.
[17:42] <Tigerboy> tapple: yes but there is a default gcc usually the gcc which the kernel was built with..
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: press ALT+F2 and run: chromium-browser
[17:43] <tapple> hmm. well, my gentoo system had 4 gcc versions installed
[17:43] <ikonia> tapple: because you installed 4 versions
[17:43] <rullie> Tigerboy, ubottu they failed
[17:43] <ikonia> chocolates: yes
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Tapple: its a different distro.
[17:43] <Tigerboy> rullie: failed what?\
[17:44] <PatrickC> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[17:44] <Tigerboy> any distro can have multiple gcc's on it
[17:44] <rullie> Tigerboy: they don't have dwm
[17:44] <Tigerboy> rullie: I bet they have it somewhere
[17:44] <tapple> ok. thanks
[17:44] <Tigerboy> rullie: you can always try to find the source and compile it on your system
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: welcome to a better browser ;-)
[17:45] <rullie> Tigerboy: yeah, don't have X11
[17:46] <rullie> X11 libs
[17:47] <Tigerboy> rullie: you have to install all the libs needed by the source code.
[17:47] <Tigerboy> it will tell you what is missing
[17:48] <Tigerboy> it took me a while to compile bzflag's latest version
[17:48] <Xpistos> http://pastebin.com/ceMLUM0a
[17:48] <lulu> ok, sorry agan...i'll be brief: got a prob with the wifi, it seems the pw is wrong even if i checked it was right; this doen't happen with other computers. I read some threads and it seems it's a prob that came with the upgrade to 11.04
[17:49] <ikonia> Xpistos: line 15
[17:49] <lulu> solutions posted in the threads don't fix my problem
[17:49] <lulu> can anybody help me?
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> is there a live ubuntu-netbook-arm image available from cd?
[17:50] <linuxguy101> http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/house-committee-approves-bill-mandating-that-internet-companies-spy-on-their-users/
[17:50] <ikonia> linuxguy101: why are you posting that inhere ?
[17:50] <Xpistos> ikonia: what is wrong with line 15
[17:50] <ThinkT510> !arm | mynameisdeleted
[17:50] <ikonia> Xpistos: remove it, it's nonsense
[17:50] <Xpistos> isn't line 15 medibuntu?
[17:50] <ikonia> Xpistos: it's garbled nonsense
[17:52] <f3bruary> I cannot send files from phone (nokia e71) to ubuntu via bluetooth. output of syslog, http://pastebin.com/7LYQEW42