[15:44] <medvind> hello! lately my proprietary graphics driver (flgrx for ati cards) has been misbehaving. I'm not sure what has happened, but now I've got loads of latency with JACK and my firewire card, it worked fine with the same settings just the other day, and with flgrx on too. now it only works if i disable flgrx. any ideas about how I can troubleshoot this?
[15:47] <ailo> medvind, What kernel have you been using? What version of Ubuntu Studio?
[15:59] <medvind> ailo, Ubuntu studio 10.10 (maverick) and right now it's 2.6.35-28-generic. I tried going back to 2.6.35-27, but that wouldn't even boot when the proprietary graphics driver was enabled
[15:59] <medvind> sorry for the slow answer
[16:03] <ailo> medvind, It's strange that it used to work, and now doesn't
[16:03] <ailo> Don't know really what would cause that
[16:03] <ailo> You could try filing a bug report
[16:08] <medvind> ailo, yeah, the question is, for what package
[16:08] <medvind> ailo, it might be that something that I recently got from an upgrade caused the issue
[16:08] <medvind> ailo, or that the gfx driver was updated perhaps
[16:09] <ailo> medvind, Could be. You can check the logs..
[16:09] <medvind> ailo, ah, right. which logs should I check?
[16:10] <ailo> medvind, I'm looking around a bit. Not all end up in the same log. How do you usually update?
[16:11] <medvind> from the console, apt-get upgrade
[16:12] <medvind> I can live without my gfx driver for now though
[16:12] <medvind> thanks anyhow
[16:12] <ailo> medvind, Check /var/log/apt/history
[16:12] <ailo> history.log*
[16:12] <medvind> alright, thanks
[16:13] <ailo> medvind, You could grep for the graphics driver package. What is it called?
[16:14] <ailo> medvind, cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep <package>
[16:14] <ailo> Only, that didn't show the date :P
[16:14] <medvind> fglrx
[16:15] <ailo> medvind, cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep -n fglrx
[16:15] <ailo> That will give you the line number
[16:16] <medvind> thanks
[16:16] <ailo> Then just use gedit to look for that line, and see when you installed or upgraded it - if it shows up, that is
[16:18] <medvind> yeah, it shows that I installed it yesterday and removed it today.. this particular log goes back to april 8. it must have been something else I installed during that time
[16:18] <ailo> medvind, The kernel could be the reason too, I guess
[16:19] <medvind> i remember that after an upgrade, compositing in compiz was disabled and docky seized to function
[16:19] <medvind> yeaeh
[16:19] <medvind> *yeah
[16:19] <medvind> and then i noticed that fglrx was not installed (any more)
[16:19] <ailo> medvind, Then it failed to add a module for the kernel probably
[16:20] <ailo> If you upgraded the kernel, that is
[16:21] <medvind> i did
[16:22] <ailo> medvind, You could file a bug report about the driver, and see if anyone already did that
[16:22] <medvind> I'll have  a look
[16:22] <medvind> thanks
[16:23] <ailo> medvind, In case you haven't filed one before: ubuntu-bug fglrx
[16:26] <medvind> ah, great. I didn't know you could do it like that
[16:49] <medvind> ailo, thanks again! bye
[23:38] <Superstar> I can't seem to install Ubuntu Studio. When I insert the CD I get to the menu where first I choose the language then I can choose to install ubuntu studio, verify the data, advanced settings etc. I can select any of those options but as soon as I press install ubuntu studio and loads up the installation interface with the first section about choosing my language but it won't let me select anything. What is the problem?
[23:39] <holstein> Superstar: im not sure
[23:39] <holstein> Superstar: might i suggest
[23:39] <holstein> just get the normal vanilla ubuntu
[23:39] <holstein> and install what you need
[23:39] <holstein> !vanilla
[23:40] <Superstar> holstein: will this include the low latency kernel?
[23:40] <holstein> Superstar: no
[23:40] <holstein> but neither will ubuntustudio
[23:40] <holstein> you need to add a PPA
[23:40] <holstein> no big deal :)
[23:44] <Superstar> holstein: thank you very much
[23:44] <holstein> Superstar: sure
[23:45] <holstein> sorry you are having a hard time
[23:45] <holstein> Superstar: feel free to look in the log if you can get to ti
[23:45] <holstein> it*
[23:45] <holstein> and/or file a bug
[23:49] <Superstar> I'm trying to install it on my laptop and I've disconnected the internal keyboard. Is it possible that the installation is not detecting my usb keyboard but only the internal?
[23:50] <Superstar> Nonetheless, I'm going to update the to the real time kernel in Ubuntu 10.10, if that succeeds and there's a performance improvement I'll try again
[23:53] <holstein> Superstar: try a normal CD
[23:53] <holstein> run it live
[23:53] <holstein> thats the kind of experience from the hardware we should expect
[23:53] <holstein> during the installation
[23:55] <Superstar> There's still a delay using midi keyboards even on my 12 core macpro
[23:56] <holstein> Superstar: what audio interface?
[23:56] <Superstar> holstein: Anyway thank you for your time I'm going to reboot and see this new kernel. I'll be back


[09:03] <ogra> slangasek, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ still has no server images, are they supposed to show up somewhere else or are they just not done yet ?
[09:05] <elmo> ogra: umm, server images are on releases.u.c?
[09:05] <ogra> elmo, armel/ports :)
[09:06] <ogra> (steve knows i'm talking about ports i suppose :) )
[09:06] <elmo> ah, yes, for all the armel servers :-P
[09:06] <ogra> right
[09:06] <ogra> not really, but for easy development systems without net connection :)
[09:07] <ogra> you dont really want netbook for those ona  256M beagleboard
[09:19] <slangasek> mmh, it looks like antimony is out of disk space
[09:19] <slangasek> elmo, lamont: can you cycle old-images off of antimony?
[09:20] <slangasek> ogra: ^^ once that's done, I can publish the ports server images


[00:00] <seb128> ok, that's your issue
[00:00] <seb128> use apport to report the crash
[00:00] <seb128> could be bug #387036
[00:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:03] <seb128> anyway enough work for today
[00:03] <seb128> but that's probably due to a floppy drive if that's the same bug
[00:03] <pace_t_zulu> it appears to be bug 387036
[00:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:04] <pace_t_zulu> i marked bug 387548 as a duplicate of bug 387036
[00:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387548 in ubuntu "Could not display "computer:///"." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387548
[00:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387036 in gvfs "gvfsd-computer crashed with SIGSEGV in strchr()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387036
[00:06] <BUGabundo> enjoy your break seb
[00:06] <BUGabundo> oh he is out
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> BUGabundo: is that bug report appropriate then?
[00:09] <pace_t_zulu> hggdh: ^
[00:09] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:14] <hggdh> sounds correct
[00:21] <kklimonda> hggdh: can we use need-*-retrace for bugs than contain only core file and not a whole "bundle"?
[00:31] <hggdh> kklimonda, no, it will not work. Only bugs generated via apport are retraces
[00:31] <hggdh> retraced
[00:55] <micahg> what's the next hugday on?
[00:58] <BUGabundo> !hugday
[00:58] <ubot4> Factoid 'hugday' not found
[00:58] <BUGabundo> !bugday
[00:58] <ubot4> Factoid 'bugday' not found
[00:59]  * BUGabundo slaps the bot
[00:59] <micahg> !info hugday
[00:59] <ubot4> micahg: Package hugday does not exist in jaunty
[01:01] <micahg> empathy is the answer
[01:42]  * BUGabundo cd ~/caminha
[01:55] <bcurtiswx-mini> bug, that was random
[05:47] <cwillu> bcurtiswx-mini, another second and we'd probably have had sudo -s and his password :)
[05:59] <jsmidt> Is there a IRC channel that shows bugs in Ubuntu as they come in/are changed?
[05:59] <TheNo1Yeti> as they come in yes
[05:59] <TheNo1Yeti> #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[05:59] <jsmidt> TheNo1Yeti, thank you
[06:21] <jsmidt> I found a bug report with a very small description that isn't very helpful.  Is there a standard template that says "thank you... need more info X, Y and Z"?
[06:21] <jsmidt> Somewhere on the web?
[06:26] <thekorn> good morning
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:20] <micahg1> is anyone in here involved with the papercuts prioject?
[07:39] <micahg> Can launchpad retrace Karmic coredumps?
[08:21] <mrooney> How might I figure out which spell checking library firefox and gedit are using? It seems to be different from OO.org
[08:29] <micahg> mrooney:  libhunspell
[08:35] <mrooney> micahg: that is what OO uses? gedit seems to use aspell perhaps and I'm not sure about FF
[08:35] <micahg> mrooney: apt-cache show xulrunner-1.9 :)
[08:36] <mrooney> xulrunner does spell checking?
[08:36] <micahg> in Firefox
[08:36] <mrooney> no way, fascinating
[11:05]  * BUGabundo bbl
[14:41] <pedro_> best report of the day bug 387715
[14:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387715 in gnome-games "Crying icon in mines too sad " [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387715
[14:56] <thekorn> hehe, good one
[15:03] <bddebian> Boo
[15:13] <hggdh> bdmurray, do you have an idea of how many private bugs we currently have (powers of 10 is good enough)?
[16:06] <jsmidt> what is the package name for the volume controls in Ubuntu called?  I have a bug about this and I want to know what package to assign it to.
[16:08] <charlie-tca> jsmidt: gnome-volume-manager
[16:09] <jsmidt> charlie-tca, thanks
[16:09] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:10] <persia> Um, no.  "gnome-volume-manager" is an old system for managing disks.
[16:11] <jsmidt> persia,  do you know the new system?
[16:11] <persia> I'm looking for it now.
[16:12] <charlie-tca> well, that's what I get for looking at xfce. Sorry
[16:12] <persia> gnome-applets
[16:12] <jsmidt> persia, thanks
[16:24] <bdmurray> hggdh: total or open?
[16:25] <hggdh> bdmurray, open -- BTW, I opened a bug on the retrace hook, and subscribed you (and pitti)
[16:26] <bdmurray> hggdh: apport crashes or not
[16:29] <hggdh> heh. Sorry, apport crashes only
[16:41] <bdmurray> james_w: any idea why bug 274069 would have had a branch linked to it recently?
[16:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 274069 in dhcp3 "error send_packet:message too long" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274069
[16:44] <bdmurray> james_w: the same thing happend with bug 131751
[16:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 131751 in consolekit "Unable to switch Virtual Terminal with C-A-F[1-6] on Intel-based new laptop" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131751
[16:50] <bdmurray> hggdh: it shows up at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/launchpad-database/private-apport-crashes.html - 2055 is the answer at the moment
[16:50] <hggdh> bdmurray, thanks
[16:51] <micahg1> can LP retrace karmic crash reports yet?
[16:53] <hggdh> yes. But it is currently being updated so fast that you can get retrace failures
[16:56] <micahg1> hggdh: I saw some failures, that's why I was wondering :)
[16:57] <hggdh> :-) and today we had a truckload of new versions...
[17:21] <thekorn> bdmurray, see bug 387731 as an explaination for this new branch links
[17:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387731 in malone "Too many mails on new bug-branch links for Ubuntu branches" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387731
[17:25] <bdmurray> thekorn: thanks
[17:39] <hggdh> bdmurray, pidgin private bugs have been cleared
[17:42] <Lademord> Hey, anyone here who knows of a good java program in Ubuntu that I can hack to get my feet wet? :)
[17:44] <brettalton> Lademord: This program needs some help (http://sourceforge.net/projects/iplist/)
[17:47] <Lademord> thanks brettalton, I'll try looking at it
[17:55] <Lademord> brettalton, from what I can see it seems to be coded in C++
[17:55] <Lademord> damn, he left
[17:55] <kklimonda> Lademord: java isn't really widely spread in ubuntu
[17:56] <Lademord> kklimonda, I know. Problem is that I'm new to programming (studying it at school) and Java is the only language they want to teach us!
[17:57] <Lademord> Personally I would rather learn something such as Python, but I'm afraid to take on multiple languages at the same time
[17:59] <Lademord> (also, I need an IDE for Python. Right now I am forced to use JDeveloper for java, and I'm not that comfortable with 'raw' coding in e.g. gedit.
[18:00] <kklimonda> I know only komodo ide and wing ide - both commercial
[18:01] <kklimonda> Lademord: the only java app that need some love I can think about is eclipse but I'm afraid fixing it isn't a task for a beginner programmer..
[18:01] <kklimonda> (also eclipse is pretty nice ide ;) )
[18:07] <Lademord> I always wanted to help the apps that I use (X-Chat, emesene/empathy, banshee, picard, evolution etc.) but I take it they are not very simple to get to understand... Maybe I should try to find a pretty simple and straightforward Ubuntu app and hack away at that until I'm more skilled
[18:09] <yoasif> Lademord,  picard is probably the easiest of those apps to get into -- it's python
[18:09] <kklimonda> emesene is python too
[18:10] <yoasif> kklimonda, never used emesene
[18:10] <Lademord> picard sure needs some love.. it tends to fail at rendering when I expand albums to view tracks
[19:56] <dtchen> bdmurray: do you have a moment and a current karmic amd64 pbuilder?
[19:57] <bdmurray> dtchen: Unfortunately I don't but could set one up
[20:00] <dtchen> bdmurray: ok, it's in pursuit of bug 384683
[20:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 384683 in haskell-x11-xft "[karmic] FTBFS on no-change source rebuild" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384683
[20:01] <dtchen> i've just booted into a karmic alpha 2 desktop cd, installed pbuilder and associated bits, and can still reproduce the symptom
[20:04] <dtchen> it's such a blindingly simple fix that i have no idea why it's stuck
[20:08] <dtchen> bdmurray: thanks for triaging the ubuntu-audio bugs, BTW
[20:34] <bdmurray> dtchen: by the way in preparation for the reviewers team I've been looking at bugs with recently added patches and have found some that might not fit into the process we discussed at UDS
[20:35] <dtchen> bdmurray: i imagine there are some that won't fit snugly. which ones have you encountered?
[20:35] <Lademord> What do you guys use to develop python? geany? Komodo? gedit?
[20:36] <bdmurray> dtchen: I've just started to make a list but I ran into bug 387043 and bug 387262 today
[20:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387043 in osm-gps-map "[jaunty] Python bindings are still built against 2.5 rather than 2.6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387043
[20:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387262 in sudo "pam_env's and localechooser's usage of quotes for /etc/default/locale conflicts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387262
[20:39] <dtchen> bdmurray: right, those could be raised in other avenues as well, e.g., ubuntu-devel{,-discuss}
[20:40] <hggdh> Lademord, you can run eclipse with pydev
[20:41] <Lademord> hggdh, I've heard a lot about Eclipse.. maybe I should try it out again
[20:42] <Lademord> but the Eclipse in the repos is obsolete, right?
[20:42] <hggdh> Lademord, it is a hog, but it works. And yes, the eclipse in the repos is sort of oldish
[21:19] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[21:42] <yofel> hey guys, could somebody tell me who I could ask for help on the state of bug 280188 ?
[21:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 280188 in zenity "libgtkada2-bin : trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gdialog', which is also in package zenity" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280188
[21:43] <yofel> the 'fix' results in libgtkada2-bin being impossible to install (at least not without removing metacity...)
[21:45] <micahg> ping hggdh
[21:54] <micahg> nevermind hggdh
[21:54] <BUGabundo> ahahha
[21:54] <BUGabundo> poor guy
[21:55] <BUGabundo> he comes late, and has nothing to do :|
[22:00] <hggdh> micahg, pong & nevermind also ;-)
[22:01] <micahg> had a Q about graphics driver bugs affecting firefox, but got a sac to answer
[23:22] <kklimonda|emp> hey
[23:22] <kklimonda> well, irc in empathy work.. but i don't see a list of users..
[23:23] <hggdh> trying empathy also...
[23:23] <hggdh> kklimonda, what is the server for the channel?
[23:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: I've just selected freenode from list
[23:24] <hggdh> hum. and the channel name?
[23:25] <kklimonda> hggdh: Room->join and #ubuntu-bugs
[23:25] <hggdh> huh? here?
[23:26] <kklimonda> hggdh: also I can't imagine myself joining 11 channels in empathy.. It would just make tabs too small to be usable.. :/
[23:26] <micahg> I hope xubuntu keeps pidgin
[23:27] <kklimonda> micahg: I think empathy is gnome dependent..
[23:27] <micahg> ok
[23:27] <hggdh> you mean like insulin-dependent?
[23:27] <micahg> because it would take 25 packages for me to install it
[23:28] <kklimonda> no wait, it doesn't..
[23:28] <kklimonda> it uses gconf though..
[23:28] <hggdh> yeah, I guess this is part of my problem... I see no option for IRC
[23:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: in account creation?
[23:29] <hggdh> yes
[23:29] <kklimonda> hggdh: have you installed telepathy-idle ?
[23:29] <hggdh> if it was not selected for auto install, no
[23:30] <kklimonda> it's in Suggests..
[23:30] <hggdh> sigh. The default install for empathy does *not* install -idle... my suggests are disabled, due to package clutter
[23:31] <kklimonda> yes, I think they will move it to recommends/depends if empathy is to replace pidgin..
[23:38] <hggdh> interesting. I added a test account to IRC, and it immediately gave network errors on my other accounts (Jabber, etc)


[09:54] <CMooney> Hi, I'd like to package up pdftk-java as a backbport for Bionic. I've struggled to find information on source packaging, there seems to be quite a lot for binary packaging. Has anyone got any helpful links?
[09:58] <CMooney> Is it worth just following (broadly) the "Fixing a bug" section of the Ubuntu Packaging guide?


[03:08] <armourz> Can anyone teach me a few things about ubuntu dev?
[03:15] <sarnold> irc works best with concrete questions :)
[03:17] <Unit193> sarnold: How are you doing today?
[03:17] <sarnold> Unit193: I'm great super, thanks for asking! :)
[03:17] <sarnold> Unit193: how're you tonight?
[03:17] <Unit193> Quite alive, though coffee gone now.
[03:17] <sarnold> oh no! I too am without coffee
[03:17] <sarnold> but tomorrow morning I shall get more
[09:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: FYI - I found prior art to my packaging problem in several other packages, libhwloc seems to be the closest to my case
[09:31] <cpaelzer> rbasak: on that "template" I'll start to develop a solution for DPDK - except some feedback convinces me otherwise
[09:32] <cpaelzer> I might reply to my own ubuntu-devel post once I have tested it successfully
[09:32] <cpaelzer> it might be easier to ack/nack a proposed solution than to create a new one based on my description
[09:40] <rbasak> cpaelzer: sounds good
[10:28] <doko> nacc: so dropping everything from ldb is fine for now. I had a chat with jelmer at fosdem about python3 & samba, so we might re-introduce these packages again, but not yet for 17.04. about the s390x bits ... maybe drop those as well, and see what happens
[10:28] <xnox> s390x ldb was fixed upstream, so recent upstream should be fine without any s390x delta
[10:29] <xnox> nacc, ^
[10:29] <xnox> doko, i missed both you and jelmer at fosdem =(
[10:29] <doko> xnox: have you been there?
[10:30] <xnox> doko, yeah i was at fosdem.
[14:08] <cyphermox> wxl: looking
[14:37] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: nothing debian-cd related is on my to-do list, nor do I intend for it to be; while I gave some initial advice, somebody else will need to review
[14:43] <cyphermox> fossfreedom: fwiw that won't make the cd boot straight to maybe-ubiquity, it should just happen by default if you don't touch anything, unless what you want is a CD that behaves a bit like Kubuntu
[16:02] <nacc> doko: xnox: ack, I'll refresh my merge and verify
[16:06] <nacc> xnox: i'm guessing, though, debian has not picked up a recent enough upstream (1.1.27 is what is currently packaged, I see 1.1.29 at least on upstream tarball page). Looking for a changes/news to figure out which version included the fix
[16:07] <nacc> xnox: hrm, upstream (in the bug) said it was fixed in 1.1.26, but we are carrying it currently as delta...
[16:08] <xnox> debian is frozen, and will not take new point releases.
[16:08] <xnox> nacc, if you want to can request ship newer release in ubuntu.
[16:10] <Laney> experimental exists
[16:12] <nacc> xnox: ack, i'll see if it is needed or not
[16:15] <nacc> xnox: oh nm, we probably coudl have dropped it on last merge, it was added in 1.1.24, fixed upstream in 1.1.26, duly noted!
[16:25] <nacc> doko: so the only two bits of delta that i'd like (double) verification on then are the "symbols for the extension" module and the encoding of the SOABI (which does have a hardcoded py3, so can probably also be dropped). So presuming neither of those are critical, would you suggest we sync ldb?
[16:29] <rbasak> mterry: is the MIR in bug 1619239 approved then? I think so as you set Fix Committed, but I want to make sure.
[16:34] <mterry> rbasak: yeah -- now it just needs an archive admin to push the button to promote it
[16:35] <rbasak> mterry: thanks. We need to sync clamav first to pull it in first I think.
[16:35] <rbasak> caribou: ^
[16:35] <mterry> rbasak: ah yeah
[16:36] <rbasak> I just wanted to check we were good first, because otherwise our delta can stay.
[16:43] <nacc> rbasak: do you have bugs filed for the two pkgs you looked at before that failed to import (and which were they?)
[16:43] <rbasak> Yes, one moment.
[16:43] <nacc> rbasak: thanks
[16:43] <rbasak> nacc: bug 1661212 is one.
[16:44] <rbasak> I didn't note the package name :-(
[16:44] <nacc> rbasak: yeah that's what i needed :)
[16:44] <rbasak> I can dig it out I think.
[16:44] <nacc> rbasak: can you update the headline with it onc eyou find it?
[16:44] <rbasak> ack
[16:45] <rbasak> nacc: the other was bug 1661092: snapd.
[16:45] <nacc> rbasak: ok, just to check, was the other bind9?
[16:47] <rbasak> nacc: it was ntfs-3g
[16:47] <nacc> rbasak: ack
[16:47] <rbasak> nacc: we want one bug per importer bug. Perhaps the importer failures should be separate bugs?
[16:48] <nacc> rbasak: they are right now
[16:48] <nacc> well, i'm filing them one at a time as we get them :)
[16:51] <rbasak> nacc: trouble is, I'm turning the bug into "importer can't do X" where X is quite specific. Because that's what the importer bug actually is.
[16:51] <rbasak> But then we'd end up duping multiple failures. Really catching up on old imports is a separate dimension.
[16:52] <nacc> rbasak: yeah, i'm suggesting do that and eitehr also file a bug for a failed import
[16:52] <nacc> rbasak: or put the specific case in the subject line as well
[16:52] <nacc> rbasak: right now, i'm filing a bug per failed import, independent of bugs in the code
[16:52] <rbasak> nacc: I think we should have separate bugs. One for the root cause, one per failed import.
[16:52] <nacc> rbasak: agreed
[16:53] <rbasak> Because otherwise as soon as the importer bug is fixed, the failed import notes disappear.
[16:53] <nacc> rbasak: so you'll file two more? :)
[16:53] <rbasak> nacc: I should be able to just import snapd. But yeah, I can file one for ntfs-3g.
[16:56] <nacc> rbasak: sounds good
[16:56] <nacc> rbasak: oh right, you have the fix for snapd ready, i guess (that's the symlink one right ?)
[17:41] <rbasak> nacc: right
[17:44] <nacc> rbasak: thanks
[17:48] <rbasak> nacc: snapd imported and pushed
[17:48] <rbasak> (successfully)
[17:48] <nacc> rbasak: awesome, nice work
[17:49] <rbasak> nacc: and I filed an import bug for ntfs-3g bug 1662611
[17:51] <nacc> rbasak: appreciate it
[18:05] <nacc> slangasek: re: the cloud-image change for open-iscsi initiator name. Do you have any suggestion for how to test my change locally?
[18:07] <slangasek> nacc: to test that the image builds and boots the way you expect?
[18:07] <nacc> slangasek: yeah
[18:07] <nacc> slangasek: specifically generating a new initiator name
[18:07] <slangasek> nacc: you might want https://github.com/OddBloke/ubuntu-standalone-builder
[18:07] <slangasek> (not "local", it needs a cloud - but doesn't require special LP setup)
[18:08] <nacc> slangasek: ok, thanks!
[18:28] <rbasak> nacc: looks like phpunit-mock-object is a really minor merge left over from your work on the PHP transition. Would you like to take care of it?
[18:30] <rbasak> cpaelzer: how do you feel about looking at the nis merge? That's from when you first started - remember? :-)
[18:31] <nacc> rbasak: ack, i'll get the php one(s) done this week, ideally
[18:48] <rbasak> doko: are you planning on merging ldb?
[18:48] <nacc> rbasak: i'm doin git
[18:48] <nacc> *doing it
[18:48] <nacc> rbasak: in consultation with doko, as it's needed for samba
[18:49] <rbasak> Ah, OK. I'll give you the work item then :)
[18:49] <nacc> rbasak: ack
[19:03] <rbasak> tjaalton: so the latest sssd in Debian requires src:http-parser which is in universe. Looks like the new "secrets" support?
[19:03] <rbasak> For now, I can build without that it looks like, as there's a configuration flag for that. Or, do you want it MIR'd?
[19:03] <rbasak> "http parser" sounds security sensitive. Especially for the "secrets" feature.
[19:03] <rbasak> So maybe it'll have to be next cycle?
[19:30] <sbeattie> rbasak: there's a MIR request for http-parser already.
[19:30] <sbeattie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/http-parser/+bug/1638957
[19:31] <tjaalton> yeah, the ball is on the security team now ;)
[19:32] <rbasak> Oh. Thanks!
[19:32] <rbasak> I just prepared an upload to disable the secrets service for now.
[19:33] <rbasak> Should I upload that pending the MIR, and then we can revert and sync when appropriate?
[19:33] <tjaalton> I'm fine either way
[19:33] <rbasak> Then at least we'd get testing on the newer sssd, even if without the secrets service.
[19:33] <tjaalton> it's in debian testing too
[19:34] <rbasak> OK I'll upload for now. Then if the MIR doesn't get done in time at least we have something automatically.
[19:34] <tjaalton> right
[19:51] <rbasak> So dogtag is holding up nss migrating, which presumably is due to tomcat 8.5 too?
[19:51] <rbasak> tjaalton: are we certain that tomcat 8.5 needs removing?
[19:52] <rbasak> It has made it to testing.
[19:52] <tjaalton> rbasak: yes
[19:53] <rbasak> Is there an ~ubuntu-archive bug on this?
[19:53] <tjaalton> no
[19:53] <rbasak> I'm not sure I follow the reasoning, so if not would you mind filing one with an explanation please?
[19:53] <tjaalton> didn't think of that
[19:53] <tjaalton> https://fedorahosted.org/pki/ticket/2560
[19:53] <tjaalton> I'll file one
[19:53] <rbasak> Thanks!
[19:53] <tjaalton> did send an email to ubuntu-release, but a bug makes more sense
[19:53] <rbasak> Then I can point people to the bug for current status and when explaining blockers :)
[19:54] <tjaalton> the reason why 8.5 was "rushed" for stretch was that 8.0 will be EOL before stretch is
[19:54] <tjaalton> but it's not an issue for 17.04
[19:54] <rbasak> That makes sense.
[19:55] <tjaalton> well, building reverse-depends would've shown that it was a bad decision.. though it makes my life easier not having to support freeipa on stretch :)
[19:58] <tjaalton> so, a bug against tomcat with ubuntu-archive assigned?
[19:59] <rbasak> Yes
[20:01]  * rbasak EODs
[20:02] <tjaalton> done, bug #1662654
[23:27] <jgrimm> nacc, one thing noticed while getting powersj going on merges.. ubuntu-git-tools isn't documented there, tho the tools are part of the process.. always good having someone new go through documentation
[23:27] <nacc> jgrimm: what's ubuntu-git-tools?
[23:28] <nacc> jgrimm: oh, rbasak's old repo? they are all in the importer repo now
[23:29] <jgrimm> nacc, oh, didn't realize they are in there too, i'm using from cloned repo
[23:29] <nacc> jgrimm: yeah, we migrated it a while back
[23:29] <nacc> the other repo is defunct at this point
[23:30] <jgrimm> nacc, i see them there now. i only had ./bin in my path too, so i'll switch
[23:30] <nacc> jgrimm: yeah, probably should move them now that we have a bin upstream
[23:30] <nacc> jgrimm: please file a bug on that, it's probably a worthwhile cleanup
[23:30] <jgrimm> nacc, cool cool. tx


[07:35] <Wulf> Hi
[07:38] <Wulf> I've got a few VMs running in libvirt / qemu and would like to use cloud-init. I.e. this isn't any real cloud environment. Where would I put my cloud-init config so it gets loaded?