[16:47] <profligacy> What can I do?
[16:47] <Rory> !password
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> Reliant: then reboot and try again. repaste the Xorg.0.log
[16:47] <halfburnttoast> foo499, yeah grub will become the bootloader. windows will probably want to do a chkdsk on the next reboot, but it should be fine
[16:48] <theseb> halfburnttoast, OerHeks: i naively didn't handle uefi properly but just tried to install ubuntu like 5 years ago......does that mean i toasted the laptop and erased uefi by not RTFM'ing?
[16:48] <Reliant> ok. The BIOS is set to use the NVIDIA GPU, and so is grub. Grub auto-selected Ubuntu, and Ubuntu has booted to the graphical shell
[16:48] <halfburnttoast> theseb, er, well what happened to the laptop?
[16:49] <halfburnttoast> theseb, you probably didn't toast uefi by leaving secure boot on
[16:49] <profligacy> Rory: Can you help me out?
[16:49] <profligacy> I'm lost.
[16:49] <as_>  is there any software which can build/generate  Lyrics from audio/video files?
[16:49] <profligacy> I believe it's the root password.
[16:49] <profligacy> I'm on a VM
[16:49] <profligacy> I can't log in to my user.
[16:49] <as_> what is VM?
[16:49] <halfburnttoast> well, actaully, if it's a 5 year old laptop it probably doens't have uefi
[16:49] <profligacy> Virtual Box
[16:50] <as_> vm=virtual box?
[16:50] <profligacy> virtual machine
[16:50] <Reliant> Xorg.0.log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892310/
[16:50] <profligacy> I can't believe I forgot my password.
[16:50] <profligacy> I feel like an idiot
[16:50] <as_> how iit is useful & why it is required?
[16:50] <foo499> halfburnttoast: thanks for your fast answer, i'll see if it works :)
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you will have to perform similar steps using the recovery iso provided by your vendor
[16:51] <profligacy> vendor??
[16:51] <profligacy> Can you speak in layman's terms?
[16:51] <profligacy> I have this ubuntu on a VM
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> profligacy: do you have another account you can use?
[16:51] <z0ran> profligacy: can you go in single user mode
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: vendor = company you rent the vm from
[16:52] <profligacy> I'm trying to log into my user
[16:52] <profligacy> but I cant
[16:52] <z0ran> and change passwd from there
[16:52] <profligacy> I can get into guest
[16:53] <Reliant> Is there a way for me to boot into X with my 2nd monitor plugged into the GPU?
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> Reliant: not without a newer driver it seems
[16:53] <Reliant> I mean even if the GPU is disabled and the 2nd screen stays black
[16:53] <as_> is there any channel which talks about new release software/tools/websites?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> you could try blacklisting nouveau but that could cause issues of it try to load vesa
[16:54] <profligacy> ActionParsnip: I have a Guest. z0ran
[16:54] <Reliant> the BIOS is sending grub to the GPU, and it's a dual boot machine (Ubuntu / Windows), so it would be a big hassle if I need to unplug/replug that screen and go into the BIOS each time I want to switch OSs
[16:54] <ikonia> sending grub to the gpu ??? what
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> profligacy: dont think that will be enough access to reset passwords
[16:55] <Reliant> ikonia: the monitor that's plugged into the APU doesn't see grub
[16:55] <arcsky> if i edit the motd file its generated back after a reboot
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you can't do anything from guest, you need to get into the recovery iso that your vendor provides
[16:55] <root_> yYоҸDдӨgжйБq$ЭZ1Ч…ПтlЪsэ4ZrҜьSя’0ыЛ4І·ЎоЗЪ>+hюңИhҘА@йhҗӨ
[16:55] <root_> 3zLЭНD4Pӣү-ғСТ‘лҪ‘ф<җ_Лӯ?ZпrХш\зұрҒ"УҗҠfyC9І· кеҫ’-$ жн2Ц¶ҡгbҖҳЩl}Ёs~ү•yEШgкніВқFQҲэұdё3б|G-нНhЯе
[16:55] <ikonia> APU ?
[16:55] <root_> *ДЯ3yК`әҹҙ$Жҙн+lҸФI·СГe№ДЈӢ6aФ;!}ХА
[16:55] <root_> вҖҡBГҹГ—ГӯВҰx/TВЁ;588Лң;
[16:55] <root_> ncҗыҙЖәBrҘУ\ю
[16:55] <root_> ГҚГ°вҖҳGiГәГҶВЎ:
[16:55] <root_> hГ®h_6f{sГӨГҚ
[16:55] <root_> <ВЎВҰГҚГ…]В©ЕЎВ»RВӘГҺ-WDГӣyВөtГҡ_~pГҸqВ©hГ—ГӮKВ¬rГЁ
[16:55] <root_> ГөГҡ@ZВҝ}2Г·В ГҜ~ВЁвҖ ГҖ8aYVГӢГҚГӢ%ГҺВ©Г¬]^ГёГә|ГҒ6ВұГҶ>4)rВёzЛҶВЈЛҶyoBГ°ВҰвӮ¬Е ~`ГәВІ!В®hВҜГӣГҜГ–WВ©}Гҫ
[16:55] <ikonia> root_: stop
[16:55] <root_> [ңғҸec&«ҠQкEРЗҺYp:ҖО\жҚм2x—9"FЯ{я`nЁмА
[16:55] <root_> )ГҰu7r:ВӨu	Г»[Dx
[16:55] <root_> ГҹYВөZOГҶВІzВ§QwtвҖ ВҰВҘ
[16:56] <Reliant> ikonia: A GPU that's built into the CPU. It's easier just to say APU to distinguish it from the separate GPU that's in a PCI slot
[16:56] <ikonia> ok, so it's the descirete gpu
[16:56] <ikonia> that should be configured in the bios
[16:56] <Reliant> yeah, but I need the GPU for Windows
[16:56] <ikonia> what has windows got to do with it ?
[16:56] <Reliant> as I said, it would be a hassle if I have to go into the BIOS each time I want to change OSs
[16:56] <tajamul> any anyone tell me if ubuntu is ready for phones
[16:57] <Rory> !touch | tajamul
[16:57] <ikonia> !ru | root_
[16:57] <profligacy> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'm really stupid, but I logged in and I have no idea which password I used.
[16:57] <profligacy> I tried so many.
[16:57] <ikonia> Reliant: why do you have to change it for each OS
[16:57] <profligacy> I'm trying to change it ActionParsnip but I need the current pass.
[16:57] <ikonia> Reliant: just point the bios at the gpu on the card.
[16:57] <tajamul> dear all ubuntu experts try to make ubuntu work on samsung wave ii mobile phone
[16:58] <impossible> the new 12.04-4 desktop mean i can also use it on my laptop?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> profligacy: you may need to call the provider to dig you out
[16:58] <Reliant> ikonia: That's what it is, but Ubuntu won't load if my screen is plugged into the GPU
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> impossible: sure
[16:58] <profligacy> ActionParsnip: What provider?
[16:58] <tajamul> it currently works on bada os andhas great hardware but crap os
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> tajamul: you've already been told that such discussion is in #ubuntu-touch
[16:58] <ikonia> Reliant: ahh what is the problem with it loading then
[16:59] <Reliant> ikonia: compatibility, apparently. It's a GTX 780
[16:59] <ikonia> Reliant: but what do you see, corruption, black screen ?
[16:59] <Reliant> a bit of corruption at the top, but mostly black screen
[16:59] <ikonia> ok, so tried disabling framebuffer ?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> Reliant: you would need to install the xorg edgers to get later drivers
[17:00] <Reliant> I haven't tried disabling framebuffer (how?), and I'm ok with installing xorg edgers
[17:00] <ikonia> I'd advise not rushing in with PPA's until you know the full situation
[17:00] <ikonia> eg: try booting it with vesa (as a test)
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> Reliant: give ikonias suggestion a try first. he's much more of an expert when it comes to most things
[17:01] <impossible> curious if someone had any screen brightness problems w the new LTS 12.04-4
[17:01] <impossible> on a laptop
[17:01] <Reliant> how do I boot with vesa?
[17:01] <ikonia> Reliant: you'll need to confiure an xorg.conf
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> impossible: lots of peeps do. what exactly is your issue
[17:01] <profligacy> ActionParsnip: What provider are you talking about??
[17:01] <ikonia> Reliant: setting the driver to "vesa"
[17:02] <Reliant> I don't have a xorg.conf
[17:02] <ikonia> you'll need to create one
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: vendor = provider = company you rent the VM from
[17:02] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: It's free
[17:03] <profligacy> Oracle Virtual Box
[17:03] <Reliant> is that just X -configure ?
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: where is the vm?
[17:03] <impossible> hitsujiTMO, i had screen brightness probs w 13, and 12lts wouldnt find my wireless drivers, but 14.04 worksperfect. I was wondering if the new 12lts will have that fixed
[17:03] <ikonia> Reliant: that's a good way to get a template
[17:03] <profligacy> When you guys try to change your password, it shows you your current password with asteriks. Can I use that to determine the length of my password??
[17:03] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: ^ on my pc
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> profligacy: the company who are giving you an Ubuntu system. They are 'providing' you with a box, yes?
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ok, then in that case you should be able to boot a live cd, chroot in and change that password
[17:03] <ikonia> profligacy: 1 star = 1 char, so work it out
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: when you said vm we assumed you meant you were renting a vps
[17:04] <profligacy> oh no
[17:05] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: chroot in?
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: boot a live cd and i can talj you through it
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> talk*
[17:05] <Reliant> ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't seem to be shutting down X
[17:07] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Where can I download the liveCD?
[17:07] <mikubuntu> studio 12.04 is getting buggy on me in the last 24 hours --- browsers (chrome and firefox) keep freezing up, and i don't know whats causing. when i try to upload docs like to scribd and other sites, it becomes unresponsive. can't figure out -- unless its related to updates in last day or two?
[17:07] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: I need an iso image
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: do you not have the iso you installed from?
[17:07] <Reliant> X -configure:  number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.  I have xorg.conf.new
[17:08] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: No
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:08] <profligacy> does it matter which one
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: grab either 12.04 or 13.10
[17:09] <profligacy> im on 12.04
[17:09] <profligacy> ill get that
[17:10] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, I will wait for it to download.
[17:10] <profligacy> damnn
[17:10] <profligacy> i got logged outtt
[17:11] <Reliant> hurrah. I set the 2nd screen to use the vesa driver. I have grub, I have a successful boot. The 2nd screen is full white with a different cursor, but that's acceptable until drivers catch up
[17:12] <Reliant> thanks hitsujiTMO and ikonia
[17:13] <as_> any one knows about command like "sudo apt-get python-pip"?
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> as_ sudo apt-get install python-pip
[17:14] <profligacy> I don't even know how i got in
[17:14] <profligacy> there is only 2 passwords i can think of of tha length
[17:14] <profligacy> and theyre not working now
[17:14] <as_> hitsujiTMO: what is equivant commands to install libarary/package/modules from ruby & perl languages?
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> as_: not a ruby or perl dev so no idea
[17:15]  * genii sips and ponders cpan
[17:15] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: GOT IT
[17:15] <profligacy> it's auto logging in
[17:15] <profligacy> that's why
[17:15] <profligacy> because my vm has a saved image
[17:16] <profligacy> that's why
[17:16] <profligacy> anyway
[17:16] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: got the iso
[17:16] <profligacy> loaded the cd; can you run me through this?
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: boot the iso and choose "try ubuntu"
[17:17] <profligacy> ok
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: open software center and ensure that the universe branch is enabled
[17:18] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Don't see that
[17:18] <theseb> halfburnttoast: what happened to laptop is when i try to boot now i get a black screen..i can't get into bios or anything
[17:18] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: boot from frinst hard disk?
[17:18] <profligacy> should i choose that
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: no
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you got the desktop iso right?
[17:19] <halfburnttoast> theseb, if you haven't already, I would remove the power and the battery from the laptop and let it sit for a while
[17:19] <profligacy> i thikn so hitsujiTMO
[17:19] <halfburnttoast> if it has a button-cell battery you can get to, remove that as well
[17:19] <mikubuntu> studio 12.04 is getting buggy on me in the last 24 hours --- browsers (chrome and firefox) keep freezing up, and i don't know whats causing. when i try to upload docs like to scribd and other sites, it becomes unresponsive. can't figure out -- unless its related to updates in last day or two?
[17:19] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu-12.04.4-alternate-amd64
[17:19] <profligacy> is that not the right one?
[17:19] <MikenJonn> Juhaz: are you online?
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ... ahh no... grab the desktop one
[17:20] <MikenJonn> prurigro: Are you online?
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: sorry, should have specified that earlier http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:20] <Ziber> On my when doing mdadm --detail on a RAID array, I notice that it says "localhost". Is there a way I can do remote hosts?
[17:21] <root____2> '@"sГңвҖ°ГҡГҢвҖЎГ–ВҪВҘГҙdВӘ"?39ГӘГӣвҖ°Г®ГҲВөГө
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[17:21] <root____5> 7Ј¶—җ`•	nҪg=d|тЫэ№ҸфқЦ14Ғ–Г[BuһВG2ҹДэм”Щm,
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[17:21] <profligacy> it's all good
[17:21] <root_> -РҮя!w_жпНSз7-ғm5xҝҚkТщЫ{МOYMUЭ1@щU•-©Жҷ|
[17:21] <root____6> }_©һЗт¬aшҚл'QЩҚҲҘAј®8Һ„ю[¬ҡtлӢцЧLж)'s”ЬF
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[17:21] <root_> ЬRVV4RbбҸҜНVXъҸ;ZLэю`Щ'OQЛb\е
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[17:21] <root____2> ГӘLГ§
[17:21] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: I'm dowloading the right one now
[17:21] <root____2> В°ГҜBM!`ВҙГӮ-ГҪ
[17:21] <root____6> `ВЈ
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[17:21] <halfburnttoast> spambots eh?
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[17:21] <kostkon> :(
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[17:21] <root_> В·6FГҜВ°Гҹ%;Гё4Г№Г©ГҒВұs
[17:21] <Ziber> You should kick 'em, too.
[17:22] <YOURBESTFRIEND> WHY can IВ see colors
[17:22] <treehouse> is lxc something I just can install and use as a sandbox for skype?
[17:22] <YOURBESTFRIEND> this channel has +c
[17:22] <kostkon> each one from different ips, clever...
[17:22] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Im' still getting auto-loggied in so its still good
[17:22] <tichy> hi
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> kostkon: not root_'s first time here either
[17:23] <treehouse> so what do you think root___ was trying to say?
[17:23] <bhkenny> is ubuntu an amazon botnet?
[17:23] <Pici> YOURBESTFRIEND: I assume you're using a cli IRC client? They're sending the proper escape sequences to tell your terminal to display colors.
[17:23] <tichy> have you tried compile gnome-mplayer from source?
[17:23] <belgianguy> what was the plan there, spam the ubuntu channel? Or was there some logic in that gibberish
[17:23] <theseb> halfburnttoast: good idea..thanks
[17:23] <Pici> Lets move on.
[17:23] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, yeah
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> bhkenny: please troll elsewhere
[17:24] <bhkenny> hitsujiTMO: you butthurt ?
[17:24] <tichy> I made it but I can't see the movie, but I can hear the sound. and the window of the program freezes
[17:24] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Pici: IВ thought my client would filter them out?
[17:24] <Ziber> Does mdadm support remote raid arrays?
[17:25] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: got it
[17:25] <MikenJonn> When I manually replace gnome-shell and do a logout: At the end there are 2 gnome-shell processes. How can I avoid that>?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: cool, boot up then: "try ubuntu"
[17:26] <theman> where can i get avg for ubuntu
[17:27] <profligacy> got it hitsujiTMO
[17:27] <profligacy> It's taken me to an unusual ubuntu desktop
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: open software centre and enable the universe branch
[17:27] <OerHeks> thethere is a wiki >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus/Avg
[17:27] <OerHeks> theman ^
[17:28] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: how do i enable it?
[17:29] <profligacy> I'm un the ubuntu software center
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: edit -> software sources          i think
[17:29] <profligacy> oh
[17:29] <profligacy> dont' see software branch
[17:30] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: where do i find "unvirse branch?
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> on the first tab is there something that says "universe" ?
[17:30] <profligacy> no
[17:31] <profligacy> http://i.imgur.com/M4eqDAt.png
[17:31] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: ^
[17:31] <treehouse> can I make apt-get install needed dependencies by force, without removing stuff as a solution?
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: """Community-maintained free and open-source software (universe)""" tick that
[17:32] <j3f0> it's my firt logg on this channel and i try connect to channel backtrack and he say. i rdy banned.. D: wtf..
[17:32] <profligacy> dough
[17:32] <profligacy> sorry
[17:33] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: enabled
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: now. close software centre and open the terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:34] <OerHeks> j3f0, LoLz, that is bacause you are root, bad idea to join irc as root.
[17:34] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[17:34] <j3f0> jajajajaja loool
[17:35] <j3f0> how can try connect me again ?
[17:35] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: done
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[17:35] <OerHeks> j3f0, you need to register, ask in #freenode
[17:36] <j3f0> kk thanks for helpme
[17:36] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: done
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: can you paste the link it generates here please
[17:37] <mikubuntu> studio 12.04 is getting buggy on me in the last 24 hours --- browsers (chrome and firefox) keep freezing up, and i don't know whats causing. when i try to upload docs like to scribd and other sites, it becomes unresponsive. can't figure out -- unless its related to updates in last day or two?
[17:37] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892547/
[17:37] <linguini> What's the easiest way to work with an ipod shuffle on ubuntu?  My mom would like to do so, but can't seem to get any songs on the shuffle.
[17:37] <ZIPY> hi, im looking for a software that can print pdfs in a handout format like this: http://powerpointsymphony.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/ppt-handouts.jpg
[17:38] <joshu> hi for ubuntu 13.10 is netboot iso the same as mini iso?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: cd ~; mkdir install; sudo mount /dev/sda1 install; sudo mount --bind /dev install/dev; sudo mount --bind /sys install/sys; sudo mount --bind /dev/pts install/dev/pts; sudo mount -t proc none install/proc; sudo chroot install
[17:38] <daftykins> mikubuntu: try clean profiles would be my first suggestion
[17:38] <profligacy> do that in one command hitsujiTMO ?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: just copy and paste the entire thing to the terminal
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: wait, you're on irc in the vm with this. :P yeah type the lot in.
[17:39] <profligacy> ytpe the lot in?
[17:39] <profligacy> no
[17:39] <profligacy> im on irc (not on the vm)
[17:40] <fr0ggie> Hello! i'm helping a friend out with kubuntu 13.10 on their HP touchsmart 600 PC -- The nwfermi (nextwindow) touch screen stuff seems to be broken in the latest releases of ubuntu. Anyone know where to get some help with this?
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: yeah. type everything in that line into the terminal
[17:40] <profligacy> damn
[17:40] <profligacy> trying to finda a way to copy
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892565/  load this page in the vm
[17:42] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: chroot failed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: mount | pastebinit
[17:43] <treehouse> eh... why do skype need my uuid and MAC address?!
[17:44] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892574
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: just: mount | pastebinit
[17:45] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892577
[17:45] <profligacy> Ugh, it's so frustrating tying in QWERTY there.
[17:45] <profligacy> ha
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, you seem to have run it twice
[17:46] <profligacy> i did
[17:46] <profligacy> because it didnt work
[17:46] <profligacy> the first time either
[17:46] <profligacy> i think
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: sudo umount /home/ubuntu/install/dev/pts
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: sudo umount /home/ubuntu/install/dev
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: sudo umount /home/ubuntu/install/sys
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: mount | pastebinit
[17:47] <profligacy> damn
[17:47] <profligacy> can i put that in one line?
[17:48] <profligacy> i cant type in qwerty
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: then change the keyboard settings in the system settings
[17:48] <profligacy> but i dont see dvorak there
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ok try this: sudo umount /home/ubuntu/install/{dev/pts,dev,sys}
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: then: mount | pastebinit
[17:49] <profligacy> no
[17:49] <profligacy> i did it already
[17:50] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892594
[17:50] <Ziber> What sort of performance would I expect from RAID5 vs RAID6?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ok. now: sudo chroot install
[17:50] <profligacy> flaied to run
[17:51] <profligacy> chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exect format error
[17:51] <profligacy> *Exec
[17:51] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892594
[17:51] <profligacy> sorry
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: interesting. something weird going on there. ls -l install | pastebinit
[17:52] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892598
[17:52] <user> hi
[17:52] <profligacy> God, typing in QWERTY is rough. not sure why dovrak is not showing
[17:52] <user> anyone downlaod black ops 2
[17:53] <Pici> !piracy|  user
[17:53] <fr0ggie> Is there a channel for more advanced discussion? We are needing help with getting nwfermi drivers to work after upgrading to 13.10
[17:54] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892598 hitsujiTMO
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: also: ls -l install/bin | pastebinit
[17:55] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892611 hitsujiTMO
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: did you install a 32bit copy of ubuntu?
[17:55] <profligacy> not sure
[17:55] <profligacy> i think that was the only one availabe
[17:55] <profligacy> at the time
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: uname -a | pastebinit
[17:56] <profligacy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892620
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you downloaded the 32bit iso is the problem
[17:56] <profligacy> agggggg
[17:57] <theman> how can i change my theme ubuntu
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: use this link http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:57] <starrats> WOOHOO, just installed ubuntu 12.04LTS with all the updats/upgrades on term, very happy!!
[17:57] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: im not on amd
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: amd64 is just a generic name for both intel + amd 64bit arch
[17:58] <kingfisher64> what learning websites do other's subscribe/regulary visit for learning ubuntu? a friend recommends explainshell.com, whatelse?
[17:58] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: oh ok
[17:58] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: sorry about that man
[17:58] <profligacy> i'm new to ubuntu
[17:58] <profligacy> this is a littel overwhelming for me
[17:58] <starrats> I'm new to ubuntu too
[18:00] <daftykins> kingfisher64: i'm afraid that's more off-topic conversation best handled in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:00] <daftykins> general support queries in here only please
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: amd created x86_64 spec. Intel licence it from amd
[18:00] <kingfisher64> oh, ok no probs daftykins
[18:00] <profligacy> oh
[18:00] <theman> oh ya
[18:03] <anshulk> trying to build a kernel module but getting an Error 2 regarding syscall_32.tbl. Any ideas ?
[18:03] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: ok starting up
[18:04] <_Amen_> #join #archlinux
[18:04] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: hit "try ubuntu"
[18:05] <rOuGe-_-c0nnectI> Anyone know any good IRC clients the are have CLI's
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: yup. then once again run this script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892565/
[18:05] <k1l_> rOuGe-_-c0nnectI: irssi is the golden oldie there
[18:05] <Pici> rOuGe-_-c0nnectI: irssi and weechat are the two most popular ones
[18:05] <Ziber> irssi++
[18:06] <rOuGe-_-c0nnectI> k1l_ Pici thanks i'll check them out
[18:06] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: done
[18:06] <profligacy> it looks like im in root?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you're are in root of your installed system. now what user do you need to reset the password for?
[18:07] <profligacy> USER
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: USER is the login name for your user?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ls /home
[18:08] <j3f0> :D
[18:08] <j3f0> allready xd
[18:08] <daftykins> j3f0: don't run IRC clients as root
[18:08] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: yes
[18:08] <j3f0> lol.. nice experience
[18:09] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: it says "user"
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: ok: su USER
[18:09] <temp-pc> I just installed the nvidia drivers on 13.10 and it won't start any gui. It says starting in low gfx mode but never does.
[18:09] <daftykins> temp-pc: can you get to a TTY?
[18:09] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: done
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: sorry actually: exit
[18:10] <temp-pc> Don't know, may be ... have to edit the grub menu I guess?
[18:10] <daftykins> temp-pc: no - just hit ctrl+alt+f1 and see if you get a CLI login screen
[18:10] <profligacy> ok
[18:10] <profligacy> back to root hitsujiTMO
[18:10] <temp-pc> ok, then what? I'm on 7 now. just tell me the steps and I"ll get back after trying
[18:11] <daftykins> temp-pc: wireless or wired network connection on that system?
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: echo "USER:newpassword" | chpasswd
[18:11] <temp-pc> daftykins: Wired.
[18:11] <daftykins> temp-pc: ideally pastebin'ing /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be nice
[18:11] <daftykins> temp-pc: were you able to install pastbinit you could run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" i think
[18:12] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: yes
[18:12] <profligacy> it doesnt say aynthing back
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: now. you're done. reboot and use the new password
[18:12] <temp-pc> daftykins: Is that some plugin for pastebin? No, unfortunately this is the first time I'm hearing this :P
[18:12] <profligacy> wait whatt
[18:12] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: what new pass
[18:13] <daftykins> temp-pc: it's a program that'll paste to pastebin nice and easily yeah
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: newpassword if you typed exactly what I wrote
[18:13] <temp-pc> Can I install it from the cli ?
[18:13] <daftykins> temp-pc: yes "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[18:13] <daftykins> assuming a working internet connection
[18:14] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: ohh
[18:14] <profligacy> let me give it a shot
[18:14] <hydra7> does desktop environment help to reduce the power usage on ubuntu? i mean installing some light weight desktop environment like Xfce4
[18:14] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: eject the cd and start it up
[18:14] <profligacy> ?
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: yup
[18:15] <daftykins> hydra7: yes it would
[18:15] <swatson> daftykins: how would it reduce power consumption?
[18:15] <hydra7> daftykins in noticeable way?
[18:15] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: should i be concerned that everyone in here now knows my password?
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: just change it
[18:15] <daftykins> swatson: unity uses 3D acceleration, by not loading the graphics card it wouldn't consume so many watts in operation
[18:15] <profligacy> ha
[18:16] <daftykins> it'd be minor at any one moment, but it would add up over hours
[18:16] <profligacy> i'm starting it up
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: once you get in that is :P
[18:16] <profligacy> it seems to have frozen
[18:16] <profligacy> going to restart my VM
[18:16] <swatson> daftykins: gotcha. thanks for the explanation.
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> o.O ?
[18:16] <daftykins> np
[18:16] <daftykins> hydra7: did you see the above also? sorry i mixed you two up :D
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: you said you had auto login enabled right?
[18:16] <profligacy> yeah
[18:16] <hydra7> not a problem daftykins
[18:16] <hydra7> i got the point
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: did you also have encrypted home directory?
[18:17] <temp-pc> daftykins: OK. I"ll try that.  See you soon
[18:17] <profligacy> not sure hitsujiTMO i think
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: hmm... should be ok then
[18:19] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: WORKS; GOD BLESS YOU!! THANK YOU SO MUCH DUDE. you're a godsend
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: np :P
[18:20] <tajamul> nobody is there on ubuntu touch
[18:21] <profligacy> WO HOOOOOOOOO
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> tajamul: you'll have to be patient. its still early in dev and not much takeup yet with the lack of supported devices
[18:21] <diablo43000> hi all
[18:22] <tajamul> will u people allow me to talk about it here
[18:22] <diablo43000> does anyone know how I can make TvHeadend generate the cjhannels in .hts/tvheadend/channels/ ?
[18:22] <Matt_von_Mises> If my deb package contains shared libraries used in different packages how do I get it so that dpkg will install my package even when the shared libraries are installed by another package? I also need my package to "Provide" those packages without causing conflict. So essentially I need to be including other packages in my debian package.
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> tajamul: we know nothing of ubuntu touch. it's not supported here.
[18:22] <LinxCat> if i installed lubuntu over ubuntu is there any cleaning up i need to do with ubuntu?
[18:23] <daftykins> LinxCat: depends if you really care about disk space
[18:23] <tajamul> ok
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> tajamul: maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <LinxCat> dafty: what about memory?
[18:24] <daftykins> LinxCat: it shouldn't run the DE you're not using
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> LinxCat: do you mean install lubuntu on top of an existing ubuntu installation from the iso?
[18:24] <LinxCat> hit: yes
[18:24] <diablo43000> does anyone know how I can make TvHeadend generate the channels in .hts/tvheadend/channels/ ?
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> LinxCat: don't do that. you'll most likely end up with a broken system. from the current system just install lubuntu-desktop
[18:25] <k1l_> LinxCat: a package that is not in use doesnt do harm besides using disk space. but the disk space doesnt matter in most systems
[18:25] <temp-pc> daftykins: Here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892770
[18:25] <LinxCat> kl: thanks. just want to keep system/clean and efficient since its an older laptop im running on
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: dmesg | pastebinit
[18:26] <jaynvora> Need help over recovering ubuntu
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> !details | jaynvora
[18:27] <jaynvora> had ubuntu 12.04,  got grub issues...had to try recovering it...failed..so installed 12.04 again
[18:27] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: I'm on 7 now
[18:27] <daftykins> temp-pc: see lines 181 onward, it's failing to init the nvidia kernel module so it's not installed correctly. try pastebinit'ing /var/log/kernel.org too
[18:27] <temp-pc> daftykins: ok man!
[18:28] <kickr> hi guys, how do you configure wpa_supplicat if your connected to a public wifi but needs to input user/password on a browser to authenticate:?
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: is this a problem after a dist-upgrade?
[18:28] <jaynvora> need to recover databases which was in old ubuntu
[18:28] <shreezbot> Have any of you been able to get League of Legends to run on Ubuntu?
[18:28] <jaynvora> @ubottu
[18:28] <jaynvora> pleae help
[18:29] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: No. I downloaded the 13.10 iso and did a clean install then ran update and lastly installed the nvidia drivers
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ok. how did you install the 331 driver exactly?
[18:29] <jaynvora>  have a problem with ubuntu...was using 12.04...it crashed..so I had to reinstalll
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: did you format the old system when installing the new one, or did you just install on top of the old system?
[18:30] <jaynvora> I wantto recover my postgresql datbse from old ubuntu
[18:30] <jaynvora> any help?
[18:30] <temp-pc> copy paste from ubuntuforums :P
[18:30] <jaynvora> repartitioned
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: what exactly did you do?
[18:31] <temp-pc> see ya soon
[18:31] <jaynvora> root overwritten
[18:32] <jaynvora> old home has come up with a new drivein new installaltion
[18:33] <jaynvora> but the file system is overwritten, I wish to recover my postgrsql   /va/lib
[18:33] <guerrierodl> hello
[18:33] <jaynvora> var/lib
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: ok. did you format root before overwriting?
[18:33] <jaynvora> no
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: ok. thats why you ended up with a broken system. you should be able to pull the database from a live cd
[18:35] <jaynvora> I nowone ubuntu runingon it... kindly help me with the steps with live cd
[18:35] <jaynvora> old root was showing corrupted
[18:36] <jaynvora> hitsujiTMO: Can you help me knw steps ?
[18:37] <guille>  recordar la direccin del chat en espaГұol
[18:37] <Pici> !es | guille
[18:37] <jaynvora> hitsujiTMO: I have an ubuntu running on it and is there a possibility to find old ubuntu'spostgresql?
[18:37] <guerrierodl> audio
[18:37] <guerrierodl> salve a tutti
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: i don't know exactly where postgresql store the db so i can't help i'm afraid
[18:37] <John_John_> i would like to install ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on my mac but then I don't know how share folders/files between them. Can you tell me how please ? What I want to achieve is to have Ubuntu as a LAMP server only and do the development on my mac.
[18:37] <jaynvora> its under va/lib
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> !it | guerrierodl
[18:37] <jaynvora> var/lib
[18:38] <temp-pc> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892880
[18:38] <tmmunq> db is somewhere in /var i think
[18:38] <John_John_> ** i didn't mention vmware did I ?
[18:38] <daftykins> temp-pc: weird, it says it doesn't currently exist
[18:38] <jaynvora> no, because I hve new ubuntu on it and will sow mew dbonlt
[18:38] <jaynvora> new db  only*
[18:38] <temp-pc> oops, sorry, 820
[18:39] <temp-pc> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6892820
[18:40] <quidnunc> Can anyone on  13.04 confirm that uuid-dev is uninstallable?
[18:40] <jaynvora> hitsujiTMO:  May I ping in personal please?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: no. keep all chat to this channel
[18:40] <daftykins> temp-pc: hrmm doesn't look useful, how did you install the driver?
[18:41] <jaynvora> Alright thanks.
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: are you able to mount the old root partition in the live cd?
[18:41] <jaynvora> Do you see a way /possibility to recover data of root filesystem of previous ubuntu installation ?
[18:42] <jaynvora> I believe NO, because system might show current partition only. (running ubuntu)..isnt it?
[18:42] <tmmunq> wait, what did you do? install ubuntu over another ubuntu?
[18:42] <yuradoc_> Hello
[18:42] <jaynvora> I will give a try soon...if it shows old root....can I recover /
[18:42] <jaynvora> ?
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> jaynvora: on the live cd: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[18:43] <jaynvora> yes tmmunq, Installed ubuntu over not working (grub failed ) one....
[18:43] <jaynvora> HAD to
[18:43] <jaynvora> home now shows as a new drive now
[18:43] <jaynvora> so  I m little hopeful
[18:43] <yuradoc_> I made a chown user:group -R / by mistake on the server
[18:44] <yuradoc_> i haven't now access to it by ssh and ftp
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> yuradoc_: reinstall.
[18:44] <yuradoc_> is it possible to repair?
[18:44] <tmmunq> if you formated, most likely not
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> yuradoc_: no. too many permissions to fix
[18:44] <jaynvora> I am not sure, this can be said as 'formatted' or not
[18:45] <yuradoc_> why you talk formatted? i think that data is OK there
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> yuradoc_: the provider may have some sort of recovery iso that will allow you to back up any existing data you need
[18:45] <yuradoc_> thank you
[18:46] <yuradoc_> i'm freelancer...i taked a project...and get such trouble for my client
[18:46] <yuradoc_> never did such damn things
[18:48] <Aeo_> hey, anybody willing to help mee out with an fsab problem
[18:48] <Aeo_> *fstab
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Aeo_
[18:50] <Aeo_> i have a problem with chowning files, im on 12.04LTS,when i try to chown it dosent do it, but throws no error
[18:50] <Aeo_> ubottu: ^
[18:50] <bekks> Aeo_: Whats the filesystem the files are on?
[18:51] <Aeo_> mounted as a cifs share, here's the line //<IP_ADDRESS>/Torrents /mnt/mounts/Torrents cifs credentials=/home/dhash/.smbcredentials,rw,uid=shareuser,gid=sharegroup 0 0
[18:51] <bekks> Aeo_: you cant chown in CIFS.
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: cifs doesn't use linux permission
[18:51] <Aeo_> is there any way to get write perms
[18:52] <Aeo_> its actually a samba share, any difference
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: you need to mount with th right uid and gid
[18:52] <Aeo_> uid and gid are provided by AD
[18:53] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: bekks ubottu i have the gid assigned by AD
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: in the mount options use the uid and gid of the user/groups you need to allow write access
[18:54] <Exp0sure> whats the main difference between say liek NFS and CIFS
[18:54] <temp-pc> daftykins: sorry for the delay. I  basically copy-pasted some code from ubuntuforums. It didn't complain. It was 3 command as far as I remember . It involved adding some repository and lastly installing the drivers by apt get
[18:55] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: the uid and gid are provided by samba and AD, and are assigned based on user. How to i allow write access?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit
[18:56] <Aeo_> thats why the uid and gid are uid=shareuser,gid=shareuser
[18:56] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok
[18:56] <daftykins> temp-pc: erk - yeah that's not the best way
[18:56] <Exp0sure> whats the main difference between say liek NFS and CIFS
[18:56] <daftykins> hitsujiTMO: do you mint taking over with temp-pc? i have to disappear :)
[18:56] <daftykins> *mind not mint, lol
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: you can set uid and gid to what you want. thats who is the perceived owner of the filesystem
[18:56] <temp-pc> daftykins: What IS the best way?
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: np
[18:57] <daftykins> temp-pc: i'll pass you over as i have to run :) good luck with it
[18:57] <temp-pc> daftykins: np. Thanks :)
[18:57] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: any reccommendations so i do not get  into uid conflicts
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: add your self to shareuser group
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> daftykins: and he's run away :(
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: is your user on the client supplied by AD?
[19:04] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: yep
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: and can you not supply your uid / gid for the mount option?
[19:05] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: yeah, AD handles all that
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: so if you supply your uid/gid in fstab do you still have an issue?
[19:07] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: then samba throws an error with conflictind info from AD
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: ok. try using: forceuid and forcegid options, or try noperm options
[19:09] <rostam> do u know how to set unlimited file handles on a particular user?
[19:10] <hddmonster> Do you know a good indicator to show Upload Download and Memory usage
[19:10] <hddmonster> ??
[19:11] <bekks> hddmonster: "iftop" and "free".
[19:11] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: no dice
[19:12] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: That didn't work because the stuff you told me to cat was a dir. So I did an ls instead and the content was: xorg-edgers-ppa-saucy.list. A cat on that returned: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu saucy main
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ok, so you have xorg edgers ppa. what gpu do you have?
[19:13] <temp-pc> msi geforce gts 250 1gb
[19:14] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: I have used this card with many versions of ubuntu
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> ok. you didn't need xorg edgers for that. purging the ppa tends to break xorg. so looks like we'll have to fix the broken install.
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:15] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: any more ideas?
[19:15] <ezio> what's the name of that standalone boot disk for reparing mbrs
[19:15] <ezio> it's slipped my mind
[19:16] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Do I have to completely remove the package and start from scratch, or can the existing download be "fixed" ?
[19:16] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[19:16] <jhutchins> ezio: grub-rescue or something.
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: depends on how its broken. we'll have to see exactly what in installed first.
[19:17] <Aeo_> jhutchins: ezio i think it's grub-repair
[19:17] <ezio> there's a standalone one though
[19:17] <ezio> you can boot from it
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: can you tell me the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:17] <ezio> it's an iso
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[19:18] <ezio> it has an interface
[19:18] <ezio> like an ncurses interface
[19:18] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok. Will reboot into ubuntu . Please bear with the delays
[19:18] <guts> If I am in a live environent, and I have an existing Linux installation mounted via External HDD, don't you use chroot to run programs that are installed on that drive instead of the live environment?
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> guts: yes
[19:20] <Aeo_> hitsujiTMO: i can do a touch now, but only with sudo
[19:21] <alami> hello, i have used a command to start web server on my ubuntu without installing anything, does any one know this command?
[19:22] <barcelona1937_> ei hello
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> Aeo_: i'm ou of ideas beyond that
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> alami: you need to have a webserver installed to start a webserver, so not sure what this miraculous command could be. are you sure you didn't instll
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> alami: you need to have a webserver installed to start a webserver, so not sure what this miraculous command could be. are you sure you didn't install a web server?
[19:23] <OerHeks> alami, in ubuntu-desktop?
[19:23] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893055
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: are you mining with that card or something?
[19:24] <Guest36890> hallo
[19:24] <alami> OerHeks: yes
[19:24] <temp-pc> No man, just an old card for gaming :P
[19:24] <alami> or that was a script that i downloaded
[19:24] <barcelona1937_> in ubuntu 12.04 how to do a harddisck defrag and get free space?
[19:25] <OerHeks> alami never heard of a standard webserver in ubuntu-desktop, tell us the command?
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ok, odd that opencl got installed then.
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: try purging these first: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-libopencl1-331 nvidia-opencl-icd-331
[19:25] <alami> when i find it
[19:25] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Then?
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> alami: was it a python script?
[19:26] <willwh> OerHeks: nginx is all you need baby
[19:26] <alami> ohh i have found it
[19:26] <alami> python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[19:26] <Seven_Six_Two> kite.me
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: then reinstall nvidia-331: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-331
[19:27] <ToBeFree> alami: also python3 -m http.server
[19:27] <Joe_knock> Hello. How do I check what the name of my input device is?
[19:28] <alami> ToBeFree: what is the difference?=
[19:28] <Xuisce1> hi Joe_knock
[19:28] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry that was pagekite.net
[19:28] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok man
[19:28] <Joe_knock> Hi Xuisce1
[19:28] <barcelona1937_> i got 0bytes of space disk and i erase a lot of files
[19:28] <ToBeFree> alami: python3 is the newer Python version; maybe the webserver has also been improved somehow
[19:29] <Urchin[emacs]> if I want to install kubuntu to a usb drive with unetbootin, should I use live or alternate install?
[19:29] <Guest36890> any1 got some .bashrc usefull aliases ?
[19:29] <ToBeFree> http://docs.python.org/3/library/http.server.html
[19:29] <Guest36890> trying to tweak stuffs
[19:30] <TeraJL> when i run steam i get this: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Depends: libglapi-mesa:i386 (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.7)
[19:30] <ToBeFree> Guest36890: that depends on what you need, right? :D Something like "la" for "ls -la" might be interesting
[19:30] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: I quit without writing up that stuff. Can you please tell me the purging and installing commands again? :P
[19:30] <Guest36890> thx toBeFree, will try it out
[19:30] <Guest36890> ^
[19:30] <ToBeFree> :-)
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-libopencl1-331 nvidia-opencl-icd-331
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-331
[19:31] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Thanks man!
[19:31] <Seven_Six_Two> Guest36890, try zsh. It's what I use.
[19:31] <barcelona1937_> in ubuntu 12.04 how to do a harddisck get free space?
[19:31] <ToBeFree> Seven_Six_Two: don't forget to suggest using another IRC client and maybe entire OS too :-)
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> barcelona1937_: df -h
[19:32] <barcelona1937_> k
[19:32] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_ : What are you trying to do?
[19:33] <Seven_Six_Two> ToBeFree, haha. something against zsh?
[19:33] <barcelona1937_> i dunno but i erase files and erase trash but anyway when login ubuntu i get a message warning tellme 0 bystes of free space in harddisck
[19:33] <barcelona1937_> Joe_knock,
[19:33] <kostkon> barcelona1937_, pastebin the output of df -h
[19:34] <barcelona1937_> k
[19:34] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_ how big is your harddisk?
[19:34] <kostkon> barcelona1937_, also there is the disk usage analyser utility, baobab, you could use
[19:34] <barcelona1937_> i paste here?
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> barcelona1937_: also look at: df -i
[19:34] <Seven_Six_Two> barcelona1937_, can you pastebin output of df
[19:34] <barcelona1937_> yes
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> barcelona1937_: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:35] <barcelona1937_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893133/
[19:36] <Seven_Six_Two> barcelona1937_, uninstall stuff
[19:36] <kostkon> barcelona1937_, your root parition is full
[19:36] <JasonTheAdams> Greetings! I'm trying to install a partion on an empty portion of disk, and I'm getting an error. It's all here (along with fdisk output): http://pastebin.com/SzVWTnz7
[19:36] <ToBeFree> Seven_Six_Two: no, but if a Windows user asks me how to ping an IP, I won't answer "use Linux instead". :-)
[19:36] <Sander^lap> What kinda password do I need to enter for "authentication request".. for account "personal"?
[19:36] <JasonTheAdams> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[19:36] <Seven_Six_Two> barcelona1937_, it's your / partition, which includes logs, installed programs,
[19:36] <kostkon> barcelona1937_, remove packages, clear the cache, apt-get clean, remove old kernels etc
[19:37] <Joe_knock> When using audacity to record streaming audio, should the output volume be high or the input volume?
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> barcelona1937_: also: sudo apt-get clean
[19:37] <Aeo_> barcelona1937_: dond forget to autoremove
[19:37] <Sander^lap> I have no clue whats that password is for.
[19:37] <barcelona1937_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893144/
[19:37] <tarBaby> Seven_Six_Two: it seems like he partioned wrong or has a massive amount of videos. barcelona1937_ do you torrent much?
[19:37] <Seven_Six_Two> ToBeFree, sorry? is zsh not supported by Canonical?
[19:38] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_: I think this is the problem: /dev/sda4
[19:39] <ToBeFree> Seven_Six_Two: that's not what I mean; they were asking for bashrc aliases and your answer was "use zsh". That's all I meant, I wasn't being too seriously.^^
[19:39] <Seven_Six_Two> ToBeFree, he was looking for some "tweaking", implying "something different" or possibly "exploring". zsh is close enough to bash to not be confusing, and has what I consider to be better configuration options.
[19:39] <barcelona1937_> yes
[19:39] <Joe_knock> barcelona did you install ubuntu on a partition?
[19:39] <tarBaby> Also he may of used truecrpyt or like and has hidden partitions
[19:40] <barcelona1937_> Joe_knock, i think yes i got problems with this aprtition
[19:41] <barcelona1937_> cause i don't remember to create this
[19:41] <Seven_Six_Two> ToBeFree, to use your analogy, if someone asked how to get their W8 box to do desktop cube, I would definitely suggest that they use Ubuntu.
[19:41] <barcelona1937_> i don't remember when has been created
[19:41] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_: I dont think 14gb of hdd is big enough to run ubuntu
[19:42] <barcelona1937_> tand now seems be blocked
[19:42] <ToBeFree> Seven_Six_Two: yeah, sure.^^
[19:42] <Joe_knock> or it could be, but you've filled it up with system software
[19:43] <barcelona1937_> tyes
[19:43] <Aeo_> Joe_knock: i think it is, but you wont be able to do much
[19:43] <Joe_knock> Aeo_ : true, I corrected myself above
[19:43] <barcelona1937_> but i erase empathy right now and appears this log with 0 bytes
[19:44] <barcelona1937_> cause i wanna install pidgin
[19:44] <barcelona1937_> and aftter erase empathy i got much problems
[19:44] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_ What system software do you have installed? Firefox? Chrome? Libre Office?
[19:44] <tarBaby> barcelona1937_: sda4 is your root directory. Place where Ubuntu and programs live.
[19:44] <barcelona1937_> before erase i got 30 Mb aprof of free space
[19:45] <barcelona1937_> aprox.
[19:45] <barcelona1937_> firefox
[19:45] <barcelona1937_> tor explorer bundle
[19:45] <Seven_Six_Two> I often install too much and fill /
[19:45] <barcelona1937_> that's all
[19:46] <Joe_knock> barcelona1937_ : 30MB is too little to install even small software packages
[19:46] <barcelona1937_> k
[19:47] <barcelona1937_> i try
[19:47] <barcelona1937_> thx
[19:47] <tarBaby> barcelona1937_: look at this. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[19:48] <barcelona1937_> k
[19:48] <Seven_Six_Two> did you install games like nexuiz, sauerbraten, 0ad
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ok, where are you at now with it?
[19:49] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Did all those purging and reinstalling but still no gui
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ok. once again: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[19:49] <tarBaby> barcelona1937_: gparted will give you visual of what's your hard drive is.
[19:50] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok man. 1 min
[19:53] <tarBaby> barcelona1937_: you have no swap!
[19:53] <barcelona1937_> 4 gb ram
[19:54] <barcelona1937_> LOL
[19:54] <bekks> barcelona1937_: And?
[19:54] <barcelona1937_> don't need more
[19:54] <phet> Hi
[19:55] <bekks> barcelona1937_: If you want suspend/hibernation, you need as much swap as RAM.
[19:55] <barcelona1937_> i found a secretly trash as a root i erase
[19:55] <barcelona1937_> lol
[19:55] <phet> I tried to configure my netbook for 2 screens, but I did something wrong, and none work. When I boot the netbook alone it goes to blank screen. I can login to console
[19:55] <dukeNubem> Hi, I've got a question. How do I report bugs? I couldn't make heads or tails of launchpad.
[19:55] <phet> I dont know how to fix it. It is a fresh xubuntu installation
[19:55] <DJones> !bug | phet
[19:56] <phet> DJones: it is not a bug. I am the bug
[19:56] <barcelona1937_> lol i'm a noob in linux bekks
[19:58] <DJones> phet: Thats not a bug thats just PEBKAC - Problem exists between keyboard and chair :)
[19:58] <phet> yes, i need help
[19:59] <Seven_Six_Two> phet, did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:00] <dukeNubem> Hi. How do I report bugs?
[20:00] <daftykins> !bugs
[20:00] <daftykins> dukeNubem: ^
[20:01] <Timvde> I have a wireless tv which supports screen sharing (through Miracast, iirc). I was wondering: would it be possible to use it, wireless, to extend my desktop?
[20:01] <aspire_> i have a question what is better, a macbook pro or an lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon?
[20:01] <kostkon> !poll | aspire_
[20:02] <aspire_> okay
[20:02] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893233
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: do you have the second link?
[20:03] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: What second link?
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: from: dmesg | pastebinit
[20:04] <temp-pc> DAMN! I forgot that.
[20:04] <dukeNubem> Thank you. The command is great.
[20:05] <Tech1> is *.ubuntu.com down?
[20:05] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Once again, where do I add that part ?
[20:06] <Tech1> archive and security are both failing during aptitude update
[20:06] <k1l_> Tech1: which ubuntu?
[20:06] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Sorry for all the trouble, but some of my cats are very sick and I'm having to attend them...
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: just run the command as: dmesg | pastebinit                     dmesg is a complete log
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: np
[20:06] <Tech1> k1l_: saucy
[20:07] <k1l_> Tech1: can you put a apt-get update into pastebin?
[20:07] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: I"ll be back with it in a min
[20:08] <Tech1> k1l_: вҖҰ.i think it may be my AWS settingsвҖҰ..i may be retarded.
[20:09] <Tech1> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/hmrGK6LW
[20:09] <fishbrain> i have trouble upgrading 13.04 -> 13.10. clicking "update..." has no effect. neither does command line "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> Tech1: can you: ping google.com
[20:10] <k1l_> Tech1: does a ping to any ip/domain work?
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | fishbrain follow the upgrade instructions here
[20:10] <cyborg4> Hey, I just got Lubuntu on a 507mb laptop with an Intel Pentium 4 processor. Recommendations on what projects to do / software to download / stuff?
[20:10] <k1l_> fishbrain: use "sudo do-release-upgrade" in terminal
[20:11] <Tech1> hitsujiTMO: k1l_ ping to google fails, but ping to their dns <IP_ADDRESS> works
[20:11] <fishbrain> thank you
[20:11] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893291
[20:11] <derpityserpdr> hi
[20:12] <Tech1> maybe EC2 was being weird.  going for restart
[20:12] <derpityserpdr> exit
[20:12] <derpityserpdr> test t
[20:13] <fishbrain> k1l_: doesn't work. it says my release is no longer supported.
[20:13] <n-iCe> hello my laptop is not sending the audio through the hdmi cable, to the tv any idea? I can see image though
[20:13] <guts> I have an existing Linux RAID0 installation using mdadm. The bootloader got overwritten mistakingly when I was installing something else. If I am in a live environment, would installing grub back to the md1 (sda1+sdb1) partition work?
[20:13] <k1l_> fishbrain: you are sure its a 13.04?
[20:13] <cyborg4> tech1 try pinging malwarezero.org if it doesnt work after restart - it's my site so I can verify the pings and the ports. it's up definetely.
[20:14] <fishbrain> yes
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: no sign of nvidia kernel module at all. Maybe try purging nvidia-331 and install nvidia-319
[20:14] <cyborg4> guts: it should do
[20:14] <Tech1> cyborg4: 1 sc
[20:14] <Tech1> ec
[20:15] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: May be tomorrow. Can I just remove it and revert back to the default ubuntu drivers?
[20:15] <guts> cyborg4: thanks. Something in the back of my mind is telling me that grub is only installed ot one of the disc's /boot partition, but I'll give it a shot
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: yup can can try that alright: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-331 nvidia-settings && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:16] <GunArm> is it safe to run smartctl -t long on multiple drives at once?
[20:17] <cyborg4> guts: if that's the case then this might take longer :/
[20:17] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: Will that automatically start the default drivers or I have to install it?
[20:17] <guts> cyborg4: I'll give the first option a shot. Worst cae, it doesn't work :/ I have backups
[20:17] <fishbrain> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893334/
[20:17] <cyborg4> guts: that's a good thing :)
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: you make have to manually remove a blacklist entry
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: but it should restore you back to nouveau
[20:18] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: No idea what that is or how to do that :P
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep 'nouveau'          if anything shows up there then you need to remove it. but purging the driver should remove that automatically
[20:20] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok m,n
[20:20] <temp-pc> man
[20:21] <k1l_> fishbrain: run a "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:21] <fishbrain> k1l_: tried it. upgrades nothing.
[20:22] <whitefox> Hiya
[20:22] <squeakytoy> Can I ask a totally newbie question? I have just downloaded dart (dart language), unzipped it. Don't you start apps in ubuntu, in a terminal, with .appname?
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> squeakytoy: ./appname
[20:23] <xeno> Further problems with apt-get update after my upgrade from 12.04 to whatever it now is.
[20:23] <Seven_Six_Two> squeakytoy, there is no ".", and you must be in the app's folder, or the folder must be on your path, or you must state the full path.
[20:23] <xeno> http://pastie.org/8709790
[20:23] <squeakytoy> oh its a slash too
[20:24] <Seven_Six_Two> squeakytoy, that's when you're in that folder.
[20:24] <phet> can anyone help me? X not working. I see xubuntu logo for a few seconds and then all black
[20:24] <fishbrain> k1l_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after apt-get update) returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893354/
[20:24] <squeakytoy> duh, its ./dart <-- my lack of linux is dreadful
[20:25] <Guest36890> hello
[20:25] <squeakytoy> Seven_Six_Two, yea. Thanks.
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | xeno
[20:25] <computer> hi guys, I got no sound with 12.04, I got HDMI
[20:25] <fishbrain> can't do it from dvd or usb-stick at the moment
[20:25] <computer> I can hear from headphone, but HDMI is not working
[20:25] <Guest36890> no sound eay....
[20:25] <k1l_> fishbrain: i am not sure if its a translation error to your language somehow. with that specific error i only find russian users with that error
[20:25] <Guest36890> hmm, did u select hdmi from sound options?
 hi, I don't really know lol, how to check that?
[20:26] <fishbrain> k1l_: hmm..
[20:27] <fishbrain> k1l_: maybe it's my sources.list or something
[20:27] <n-iCe> hello my laptop is not sending the audio through the hdmi cable, to the tv any idea? I can see image though
[20:27] <computer> I've opened pavucontrol, sound seems to be playing but no output
[20:27] <jhutchins> Isn't there an upgrade package you need to install prior to dist-upgrade?
[20:28] <fishbrain> k1l_: ubuntu-support-status shows that i have just 377 unsupported packages
[20:28] <k1l_> fishbrain: jhutchins i am not sure if you already need the eol-upgrade repo-change procedure or 13.04 upgrades.
[20:29] <xeno> Looks  like I'm on 14.04 alright.  Oh well.  I'll have to pay more attention as to how I do it next time.
[20:29] <emplox> i'm looking for some help with a crash i'm having
[20:29] <emplox> http://pastebin.com/SyyB8sfM
[20:29] <emplox> anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> xeno: -d flag upgrades to the development release
[20:30] <k1l_> !eol | fishbrain
[20:31] <fishbrain> k1l_: i'm trying to install upgrade-system package now. no idea if that has anything to do with it
[20:31] <k1l_> fishbrain: see eolupgrades in bots message
[20:31] <phet> the mouse appears for a second and then all black
[20:31] <fishbrain> k1l_: i did. it seems to concern much much older versions
[20:31] <k1l_> fishbrain: 13.04 is EOL since 27thjanuaray, too
[20:32] <smw> Hi all, what is the easiest way to blacklist a certain package from being updated? I don't want to pin a specific version. I just want to pin it as "never update"
[20:32] <bekks> smw: Which means "pin it to the version currently installed".
[20:33] <smw> bekks, yes
[20:33] <smw> I am writing some vagrant stuff and upgrading grub-pc causes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/751057
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> smw: sudo apt-mark hold packagename
[20:33] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: That command gave 2 lines of o/p. First one is after a hash, telling not to autoload nouveau as it can prevent nvidia drivers from loading, and the second line is just "blacklist nouveau". I have no idea what file has that entry.
[20:33] <smw> hitsujiTMO, sweet, thanks
[20:33] <bekks> smw: So you actually want to pin a specific version.
[20:33] <smw> bekks, yes, I just don't want to specify the version :-)
[20:34] <John_John_> i have installed ubuntu server 12.04 in vmware fusion and when i login and issue ls for example, i get nothing back. have i done something wrong ?
[20:34] <TJ-> emplox: You have a PCI(e) device that is not responding
[20:34] <temp-pc> Hmm, ma\y be if I wasn't so damn drunk I'd  try the above command with that quoted grep :P
[20:35] <n-iCe> any hand?
[20:35] <John_John_> any ideas guys ??
[20:35] <ammar__> hi guys
[20:36] <ammar__> I wanna ask about battery when I unplug charger it always tell me battery critically low
[20:36] <daftykins> John_John_: no as you probably don't have any files in your home directory yet. try "ls /"
[20:36] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: What file has the blacklist entry?
[20:36] <daftykins> ammar__: perhaps your laptop's battery is toast
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> temp-pc: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d                      usually the file is named like XX-nvidia-YYYY.conf  delete that if it exists. otherwise look in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf       towards the end it would be listed. just comment out the lines
[20:36] <emplox> i'm looking for some help with a crash i'm having, does anyone know what may be causing this?
[20:36] <ammar__> no it is ok it says low but it continue to work
[20:36] <emplox> http://pastebin.com/SyyB8sfM
[20:37] <John_John_> daftykins: You are the man!!
[20:37] <temp-pc> hitsujiTMO: ok man
[20:37] <ammar__> I just don't want it to say that annoying messagwe
[20:37] <ammar__> message
[20:37] <John_John_> its my first time installing this OS.
[20:37] <smw> hitsujiTMO, worked like a charm
[20:37] <smw> hitsujiTMO, thanks :-)
[20:38] <John_John_> now the hard part is over i guess :)
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> smw: np
[20:38] <ammar__> any ideas ?
[20:38] <fishbrain> k1l_: that article doesn't seem to help me much :(
[20:39] <Teduardo> did 12.04.4 never come out
[20:39] <k1l_> fishbrain: it doesnt name 13.04. but you need to follow the steps
[20:39] <k1l_> Teduardo: it did already
[20:40] <fishbrain> k1l_: you mean add the sources?
[20:40] <k1l_> fishbrain: yes, change the sources.
[20:40] <Beldar> Teduardo, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/current/  the daily
[20:40] <fishbrain> k1l_: should've just upgraded in time :P
[20:40] <k1l_> fishbrain: i cant reproduce that error because i dont use 13.04 and dont have finish or russian as language
[20:40] <John_John_> wmware tools told me that have installed vmware tools and also shared my mac home directory. how can i access that ?
[20:41] <daftykins> John_John_: this is really vmware support, i'd recommend you read through their documentation on shared folders
[20:41] <fishbrain> k1l_: there's no error. it just says that nothing was upgraded, removed or added.
[20:42] <Teduardo> hrm, there is no new netboot image for 12.04.4
[20:42] <emplox> i'm looking for some help with a crash i'm having, does anyone know what may be causing this?
[20:42] <emplox> http://pastebin.com/SyyB8sfM
[20:42] <Teduardo> 12.04's netboot image has terrible support for NICs
[20:43] <TJ-> emplox: You have a PCI(e) device that is not responding
[20:43] <mikubuntu> daftykins: when you said 'use a clean profile' did you mean create a new user to log in as?
[20:44] <daftykins> mikubuntu: no, just a clean firefox profile to start
[20:44] <John_John_> what is the paste key combination in ubuntu terminal ?
[20:44] <k1l_> fishbrain: did you change to old-sources?
[20:44] <daftykins> shift+insert or middle/right click mouse
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Teduardo: mini.iso doesn't get updated afaik
[20:45] <mikubuntu> daftykins: i guess would be the same for chromium, set up a new profile?
[20:45] <daftykins> yep
[20:45] <fishbrain> k1l_: working on it now. my sources.list is a mess :D
[20:45] <daftykins> mikubuntu: starting a guest user session would probably be quicker than both though :)
[20:45] <daftykins> anywho must go, gl
[20:46] <kostkon> mikubuntu, man firefox
[20:46] <kostkon> mikubuntu, it's easy to create a new profile in firefox
[20:46] <pietro10> Hi. How do I find out which repository a package will come from?
[20:47] <pietro10> *from the command line
[20:47] <Pici> pietro10: apt-cache policy packagename
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> pietro10: apt-cache policy packagename
[20:47] <kostkon> nice
[20:47] <pietro10> ok
[20:47] <pietro10> is there a way I can install the source code to a apckage then?
[20:48] <pietro10> in this case I'm using oracle's official virtualbox but htye odn't provide a virtualbox-source
[20:48] <bekks> pietro10: BEcause the provide a source code svn repository.
[20:48] <tarBaby> pietro10: source code can take hours to days to compile
[20:48] <bekks> tarBaby: On an Rasperry Pi :P
[20:48] <pietro10> I know, I'm a programmer; I'm not compiling it from source though
[20:49] <Pici> pietro10: do they provide a deb-src repo?
[20:49] <pietro10> I need the source code for vdfuse
[20:49] <pietro10> hm, not immediately
[20:49] <pietro10> let me try adding it manually
[20:49] <bekks> pietro10: vdfuse isnt part of vbox.
[20:49] <kostkon> !find vdfuse
[20:50] <pietro10> yes, it has to be built from source
[20:50] <pietro10> the package used to be virtualbox-fuse that was removed in raring
[20:50] <bekks> pietro10: It is not part of the official vbox source code.
[20:50] <bekks> pietro10: It is something else.
[20:50] <fishbrain> k1l_: it can't load the sources. 404 Not Found
[20:50] <pietro10> it requires the official source code to compile
[20:50] <pietro10> see: https://github.com/Thorsten-Sick/vdfuse
[20:50] <bekks> pietro10: So check out the svn repo.
[20:50] <neyder_> hi mivec
[20:51] <fishbrain> k1l_: i used "raring" in place of CODENAME like the article said :O
[20:51] <RocketPenguin> Is there a channel for Backtrack?
[20:51] <bekks> !backtrack | RocketPenguin
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> !kali | RocketPenguin
[20:51] <k1l_> fishbrain: hmm, maybe ask the finish ubuntu guys if that is a known translation problem?
[20:52] <RocketPenguin> Aha.
[20:52] <fishbrain> k1l_: hmm ok
[20:52] <RocketPenguin> I am having a liveUSB booting issue. anyone know much about that?
[20:52] <bekks> RocketPenguin: We dont know anything about backtrack.
[20:52] <RocketPenguin> bekks What about liveUSB and booting issues?
[20:52] <k1l_> fishbrain: you are right. the old-releases doesnt include 13.04 so far. so i bet its a translation problem wich ruins the updater
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> RocketPenguin: only thing we know about backtracjk is that its end of life and no longer supported
[20:53] <bekks> RocketPenguin: backtrack liveusb?
[20:53] <tarBaby> RocketPenguin: how'd you create the USB
[20:53] <k1l_> RocketPenguin: ask the backtrack guys. this is ubuntu support.
[20:53] <fishbrain> k1l_: great. i'm stuck with 13.04 :D
[20:53] <RocketPenguin> tarBaby I used unetbootin
[20:54] <RocketPenguin> k1l_ Please, show me the direction of the "Backtrack guys" and i will be on my way
[20:54] <pietro10> ok yep they don't have deb-src; will need to use the svn
[20:54] <pietro10> thanks
[20:54] <Scunizi> I'm trying to get lightscribe working and came across a QT package that needs compiling... mkdir build, cd build, cmake .. after the cmake is there a file ready to install or is that done already? How do you start it?
[20:54] <k1l_> !backtrack > RocketPenguin
[20:54] <DJones> RocketPenguin: Backtrack isn't supported here, please don;'t ask again
[20:54] <RocketPenguin> Ah, thank you.
[20:55] <mikubuntu> thx kostkon i'll check it out -- now my sister calling me with dell d600 prolblems, it won't start up
[20:55] <fishbrain> k1l_: btw what is sources.list.distUpgrade ??
[20:56] <tarBaby> RocketPenguin: I had problems with certain programs. It think it boiled down to newer programs defaulted to uefi older ones used bios. Dd seemed to work
[20:56] <fishbrain> k1l_: i was just thinking if i should try removing it..
[20:57] <adac> I was wondering if it is possible to use  shortcuts via vnc connection over vino
[20:57] <ammar__> hey I am using ubuntu 13.10 when I unplug charger it pop a message "battery critically low.." even if the battery is not low and it indicate that it's 3 hours charged .. any ideas ????
[20:58] <tarBaby> ammar__: what message if you boot with charger disconnected.
[20:59] <ammar__> tarBaby: no message the message come only when I unplug charger
[20:59] <Beldar> ammar__, I would look through these, and check the ubuntu forums, this is a problem seen on occasion, may be a bug involved. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=battery+critically+low
[21:00] <emplox> i'm looking for some help with a crash i'm having, does anyone know what may be causing this?
[21:00] <emplox> http://pastebin.com/SyyB8sfM
[21:00] <impossible> the software in the softwarecenter is considered safe?
[21:00] <preview> What's the most recent Mono that will compile on Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:00] <bekks> emplox: Line 58.
[21:00] <tarBaby> emplox: you have nvidia
[21:01] <emplox> i have AMD
[21:01] <emplox> bekks: cpu issue?
[21:01] <bekks> emplox: Yes. Last time I saw that, the CPU was about to die.
[21:01] <emplox> yike
[21:01] <emplox> s
[21:02] <bekks> emplox: To be honest, that was 10y ago.
[21:02] <ejbs> Guys, my HDD access has become reeaallyyy slow on Ubuntu. We're talking over a second to save a text file slow/constant artifacts when watching films. I don't have a lot of HDD space left (10.7GB/216GB), do you think I need to defrag? What kind of stuff can you do about this on Ubuntu?
[21:02] <emplox> okay
[21:02] <emplox> hrmm
[21:02] <tarBaby> emplox: you just recently install proprietary AMD driver
[21:02] <ammar__> Beldar: I searched online for a solution - tried to update acpi and used power management programs also battery optimizer but no use
[21:03] <tarBaby> ejbs: try restarting
[21:03] <emplox> tarBaby: i'm using amd-catalyst-13.11-beta-v9.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run.zip
[21:03] <emplox> i tried using a newer version and they won't install
[21:03] <tarBaby> emplox: did problem happen after installing the AMD driver?
[21:04] <emplox> it's a fresh install
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> ejbs: can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog       and the ouput of: dmesg
[21:04] <emplox> it happens when i start using the GPU though
[21:04] <emplox> otherwise, system is fine
[21:04] <emplox> i thought it was a driver issue, but have no idea how to fix it
[21:05] <tarBaby> emplox: the GUI uses the GPU. What do you mean. Playing games?
[21:05] <Bridge|> Hey All, I'm using the built-in windows Remote Desktop Connection client and connecting to Ubuntu 12.04 threw XRDP via a sesman-xvnc session works fine minus some annoying hotkeys ('D' shows desltop) I can network manager figure that out later but I been googling and aint find anything on how/why I cant see the Network Manager on the top right and I cant edit network connections, not seeing
[21:05] <Bridge|> anything related to this problem in searches or forums... Anyone care to point me in the right direction?
[21:05] <Beldar> ammar__, Good to know you have tried some methods, I don't have an answer myself. If it were me I would try a search with the exact computer model/hardware and ubuntu release, but that is my usual starting point, you may have already tried.
[21:05] <emplox> tarBaby: i'm using it to mine scrypt coins
[21:05] <emplox> it's been up and stable for 2 months
[21:05] <ejbs> hitsujiTMO: I'm on it. I'm including a call to hdparm too.
[21:05] <emplox> now all of the sudden this is happening
[21:06] <emplox> no config changes or driver changes
[21:06] <axelm7> hi guys, I have Ubuntu 13.10 Desktop running on an Athlon X2 4000+ with onboard nVidia 6150 SE and 3gb RAM. It is HORRIBLY slow. I tried switching from nouveau to nv to no avail. Any ideas?
[21:06] <TJ-> emplox: Have you reseated the adapters? checked for heat issues?
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> emplox: constant mining tends to kill hardware
[21:07] <Bridge|> When I login via the local box and start a network connection I can see the connection icon top right but only option is 'About' cant change anything, and if I just start the box and rdp in then there is nothing
[21:07] <Scunizi> axelm7: there's a menu item for "Additional Drivers".. You should find a compatable Nvidia driver to activate in there. That might help.
[21:07] <ejbs> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/zwSaPpM1
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: try a non accelerated desktop environment like xfce
[21:08] <emplox> TJ-: i haven't checked adapters...i have temps all monitored and are fine though
[21:08] <axelm7> is there a way to know if the rendering is hw or sw?
[21:08] <tarBaby> emplox: so its just one game crashing?
[21:09] <emplox> will try reseating everything
[21:09] <TJ-> emplox: The kernel backtrace indicates the PCI device isn't responding to an enquiry
[21:09] <emplox> does it state which slot? 0,1,2,3?
[21:10] <Mongo44> How do I find out what graphics card I have
[21:10] <sdem> hello
[21:10] <egolost_> I'm trying to download trusty sources from my precise setup by adding trusty repo to the sources.list but somehow it wont show up when i do apt-cache policy. Someone know what can be wrong?
[21:10] <TJ-> emplox: Have any updates been applied automatically, kernel drivers or libraries?
[21:10] <Mongo44> ?
[21:10] <tarBaby> TJ-: so worst case he fried his GPU.
[21:10] <sdem> j'ai suprimer le dossier ~/private et ne peut plus lancer mon gestionnaire de fenetre
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: unity is only 3d accelerated do hw bound
[21:10] <sdem> que puis-je faire pour remedier a cela?
[21:10] <emplox> TJ-: no, i have everything off/manual
[21:10] <guntbert_> !fr | sdem
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> s/do/so
[21:12] <TJ-> emplox: other than it being from firegl, there's no information on the device that is obvious
[21:12] <emplox> okay
[21:12] <emplox> thx for the info TJ-
[21:12] <axelm7> hitsujiTMO, sorry I didn't get it. do hw bound? what does that mean?
[21:12] <emplox> i'm going to unplug/reseat everything
[21:12] <emplox> and see what happens
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: sorry meant "so" not do
[21:14] <axelm7> hitsujiTMO, ok got it now. still seems strange that even windows 7 runs fine on this box and unity makes it feel like a pentium 4 with 256mb ram
[21:14] <Beldar> Mongo44, in the cli lspci has a nice list for you.
[21:14] <axelm7> used to have latest Fedora on this box and it worked fine
[21:14] <axelm7> will try xubuntu
[21:14] <Mongo44> Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:15] <Mongo44> Is that it?
[21:15] <Code|Teal> can I ask a simple question about Ubuntu Server in here? Or is that a separate channel?
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: unity uses some very expensive filters unforunately
[21:16] <DJones> Code|Teal: Here is fine, although there is #ubuntu-server which may have a more specific answer
[21:16] <axelm7> is there a way to disable the eye candy in unity?
[21:16] <Code|Teal> I can't just get it to boot, loading the CD I get to the language selection and lose ability to use the keyboard
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> ejbs: not seeing anything odd. have you looked at iotop for unusual activity?
[21:16] <Beldar> Mongo44, what does 'lspci | grep VGA' show
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: you can minimise it with unity-tweak-tool   but not remove it
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> axelm7: main thing is to disable background blur
[21:17] <TJ-> Code|Teal: Is it a USB keyboard?
[21:17] <Mongo44> What I posted earlier.
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> code_zombie: 13.10?
[21:17] <Code|Teal> TJ-, yeah
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> Code|Teal: 13.10 ?
[21:18] <Code|Teal> I think so
[21:18] <ejbs> hitsujiTMO: I've been looking through the processes on the System Monitor and there is nothing unusual. This has been active even after several reboots, so I dunno what's going on. It sucks though, that's for sure.
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> ohci_pci bug
[21:18] <TJ-> Code|Teal: I'd look first at the motherboard's BIOS/Firmware setup, and ensure "Legacy USB" support is enabled
[21:18] <Code|Teal> TJ-, that is good
[21:18] <Code|Teal> hitsujiTMO, yeah it is 13.10
[21:19] <Code|Teal> I get to the boot menu and I select "install Ubuntu Server" and the next screen I have no keyboard
[21:20] <Code|Teal> wrong button
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> Code|Teal: theres a known bug where ochi_pci is missing from initramfs so usb host isn't active. good chance its that issue
[21:20] <Reliant> I have X failing to start (yet again), and when I reboot to a safe mode, my Xorg log files are all empty
[21:20] <Mongo44> I think I might need a graphics driver as my VM only runs in 640x480.
[21:20] <Beldar> Mongo44, That appears to be it, intel has driver kits, some install if the dependencies are available. Go here only if you have actual troubles would be my rhetoric.
[21:21] <k1l_> Mongo44: you are still confusing VM and real hardware
[21:21] <k1l_> Beldar: he is mixing up install inside vm and a real install.
[21:21] <Code|Teal> hitsujiTMO, do you by chance know if that is an issue in the 12.04.4LTS release?
[21:21] <k1l_> Mongo44: install the guest-additions
[21:21] <Mongo44> I did that.
[21:21] <Beldar> k1l_, Thanks, heh good to know.
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> Code|Teal: no, that issue is 13.10 specific
[21:21] <Code|Teal> I can head over to the server specific channel if I need to
[21:21] <Code|Teal> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[21:21] <Code|Teal> doubt that there is anything in 13 that I *need*
[21:22] <Code|Teal> just setting up a simple media server for my living room lol
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> Code|Teal: you can do a debootstrap install from 13.10 desktop iso if you want 13.10. but 12.04 would prob be a better option for a server
[21:23] <Code|Teal> hitsujiTMO, it is not a big deal, there is not anything that I need in 13.10
[21:23] <Code|Teal> I doubt that there is rather
[21:23] <k1l_> Mongo44: install the guest additions in the OS that runs in the VM
[21:24] <Mongo44> I did that.
[21:24] <TJ-> ejbs: less than 5% free space; I'd say the disk is spending more time seeking the heads than reading/writing ... latency on seeks is killing performance
[21:25] <k1l_> Mongo44: inside vm you dont need the hardware drivers because the VM software only fakes the vm-os that its running on hardware and not in a vm
[21:26] <Mongo44> My host OS Debian runs just fine. I got the guest addition and the dkms package.
[21:26] <k1l_> Mongo44: you need the guest-additions inside the ubuntu in the vm
[21:27] <Mongo44> Yes I have that.
[21:27] <ejbs> TJ-: I did a read benchmark (I have no idea what a good latency would be), here's the screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/ap8NrcQ.png
[21:27] <Mongo44> I had to boot in root priveleges, but I got it installed.
[21:27] <k1l_> Mongo44: maybe debian got an old vbox version that makes problems?
[21:27] <bekks> s/maybe/for sure/
[21:27] <Reliant> I had Ubuntu working perfectly before, and now when I reboot, my primary screen is black, the keyboard doesn't work, I can't drop to a shell, and the only way to reboot is to hit the button on the box
[21:28] <parents_> !Surolac Vilain Pingouin --- Roche et roule --- 04 --- Chu tu seul Г  soir.mp3
[21:28] <parents_> !Surolac Vilain Pingouin --- Roche et roule --- 05 --- TГ©moin.mp3
[21:28] <parents_> !Surolac Vilain Pingouin --- Roche et roule --- 06 --- DГ©linquance.mp3
[21:28] <Mongo44> Yes it has VBox 4.1.
[21:28] <parents_> @surolac
[21:29]  * ldlework wonders how DJones forced parents_ to leave without kicking.
[21:30] <genii> IdleOne: Stealth mode.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> ldlework: quote remove channel user
[21:30] <Shar> night98 has Quit (Client exited)
[21:30] <Mongo44> k11, you could be right.
[21:30] <DJones> ldlework: Facility of freenode network lets your remove without a kick
[21:31] <xeno> It is really really hard to find a posting from google simply showing how to re-initialize a pen drive.  Ugh!!!
[21:31] <DJones> genii: Wrong nick tab completion there
[21:31] <guntbert_> !tab | Mongo44 (you typed the wrong nick)
[21:31] <Reliant> how can I edit gub from the command prompt? There's a 5 second timeout that I want to completely remove, and I can't get into X to use the graphical editor
[21:32] <axelm7> well, moved from unity to XFCE and the difference is like day and night. I can finally use the PC. Couldn't even alt-tab quickly in unity
[21:32] <genii> DJones: I blame it on lack of coffee!
[21:32] <TJ-> xeno: Because "reinitialize" isn't well-defined as to what it means
[21:32] <John_John_> how to install X in ubuntu server ?
[21:32] <guntbert_> !grub | Reliant
[21:32] <kostkon> John_John_, install one of the *buntu-desktop metapackages?
[21:32] <axelm7> John_John_ did you try tasksel?
[21:33] <John_John_> nope i have no idea what are all these
[21:33] <John_John_> maybe i should have installed ubuntu desktop ?
[21:33] <axelm7> John_John_ giyf
[21:33] <Shar> night98<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has Joined #ubuntu
[21:34] <John_John_> axelm7: ?
[21:34] <arvut> sushi connection networks
[21:34] <arvut> we chop chop some stick
[21:34] <axelm7> if you installed ubuntu server, you can add the desktop easilyusing tasksel
[21:34] <kostkon> John_John_, depends on what you really want to accomplish
[21:34] <TJ-> xeno: If you mean reinitialize the device to map failing blocks, then for NAND you'd write 0x00, for NOR, you'd write 0xFF. If you mean repartition you'd use "fdisk" or "gdisk", if you meant re-format file-systems, you'd use one of the mkfs.* commands
[21:34] <John_John_> i just want the vmtools to play correctly!!!
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> Shar: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:35] <John_John_> and to be able to share files between host and guest(ubuntu)
[21:35] <guntbert_> !google | axelm7
[21:35] <arvut> TJ-: you forgot to mention parted/gparted
[21:36] <John_John_> so how do i use tasksel to install GUI ?
[21:36] <arvut> fdisk is old, even tho it works. parted can do newer stuff like lvm
[21:36] <axelm7> sudo apt-get install tasksel
[21:36] <axelm7> sudo tasksel
[21:36] <John_John_> thanks axelm7
[21:36] <axelm7> then choose Ubuntu Desktop from the list of options and let it install
[21:37] <arvut> John_John_: you download install-minimal-amd64-20140130.iso and go on from there
[21:38] <guntbert_> John_John_: a word of warning though: tasksel is helpful for installing - never use it to remove something
[21:38] <TJ-> arvut: I deliberately didn't :)
[21:38] <guntbert_> !tasksel | John_John_
[21:38] <John_John_> and how to remove then ?
[21:38] <arvut> TJ-: what?
[21:38] <arvut> TJ-: very stoned here. please pardon the memoryloss. we dont have ecc memory
[21:39] <John_John_> how to remove something i installed with tasksel ?
[21:39] <axelm7> arvut, lol about the ecc
[21:39] <arvut> axelm7: too much green. tmux is green.. in xterm
[21:40] <arvut> axelm7: sudo apt-get install tmux
[21:40] <guntbert_> John_John_:  sudo apt-get remove  package-name ...    (so essentially each package)
[21:41] <axelm7> John_John_ I still don't understand exactly what you are trying to fix
[21:41] <arvut> axelm7: use ctrl+b to initiate, then press either h, %, " or o, for different things to happen
[21:41] <arvut> axelm7: " and % are spilts, horizontal and vertical.
[21:42] <arvut> axelm7: h is obviously help
[21:42] <John_John_> axelm7: i ll tell u now
[21:42] <arvut> John_John_: if you gonna use sudo a lot, I suggest "sudo -i"
[21:43] <John_John_> i am using a mac(host) and installed vmware fusion and on it i installed ubuntu server
[21:43] <arvut> *P0WER* to the _USER_!
[21:43] <John_John_> then i have installed the vmware tools in ubuntu following the instructions from the vmware site
[21:43] <xeno> TJ-
[21:43] <arvut> John_John_: sudo apt-get install elinks
[21:44] <arvut> John_John_: best browser
[21:44] <xeno> What I mean is I have a pen drive, and nothing I do makes it become an empty pen drive so I can install an Ubuntu iso on it.
[21:44] <xeno> Last thing I tried makes it unseeable by Ubuntu, apparently.
[21:44] <John_John_> but still i can't see the shared folder on my mac !!!
[21:45] <guntbert_> arvut: sudo -i should be reserved for the few cases where it is really needed, not just for lazyness
[21:45] <axelm7> John_John_ so what does that have to do with desktop or server Ubuntu
[21:45] <arvut> John_John_: uninstall macOSX. Go to www.gentoo.org and search for a mac build. unless you have an intel cpu. then get amd64 iso
[21:45] <xeno> I guess at this point I have some long number on it, and it isn't seen as a pen drive anymore.
[21:45] <axelm7> arvut, that stuff you are smoking is pretty strong
[21:46] <arvut> guntbert_: I'm perfectly happy being root at all times. even tho I dont run irc as root, I ssh into irc box as root.
[21:46] <arvut> axelm7: no shit
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> !language | arvut
[21:46] <John_John_> arvut: uninstall macosx ?? i have an actual mac machine
[21:46] <guntbert_> arvut: I don't care what you are happy with, but I care very much about what you recommend here
[21:46] <arvut> can you use wget to get a complete folder from a webserver/ftp?
[21:46] <axelm7> maybe if I had some of that I'd be able to fix my zoneminder on Ubuntu issue
[21:47] <pnielsen> Why does this say 10.04 is EOL? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-6393.html
[21:47] <John_John_> i am working on mac osx mavericks
[21:47] <Pessimistic_Pete> anyone here?
[21:47] <arvut> like all the files in http://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/ubuntu/
[21:47] <impossible> I am running LTS how do i make Ubuntu save my brightness settings? for next boots
[21:47] <arvut> hello hitsujiTMO
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> pnielsen: 14.04 desktop is EOL
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> pnielsen: 10.04 desktop is EOL even
[21:48] <pnielsen> hitsujiTMO: This is server
[21:48] <pnielsen> 10.04 LTS
[21:48] <arvut> guntbert_: good thing is, I dont care about what you think or care for
[21:48] <axelm7> John_John_, why don't you reinstall the VM using ubuntu desktop image if you are not comfortable using tasksel to add the desktop?
[21:48] <xeno> make startup disk gets this lovely popup error:  http://pastie.org/8709964
[21:48] <pnielsen> this page doesn't list 10.04 either: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2098-1/
[21:49] <thurstyl1rk> I had issues with an invidia driver upgrade
[21:49] <xeno> Since it is telling the user to do something on the command line with --force, it would be nice if the instructed command could be stated, instead of just lavishing us all in mystery.
[21:50] <John_John_> axelm7: i already have started installation with tasksel but its taking too long and i ll stop it in oreder to download a gui version
[21:50] <arvut> IdleOne: what did he do?
[21:50] <arvut> IdleOne: was it the dongforce?
[21:50] <axelm7> you will have to install ubuntu updates after 13.10 and that will also take a long tome
[21:50] <DJones> arvut: It was a bot
[21:50] <arvut> aha
[21:50] <arvut> I see force
[21:50] <TJ-> xeno: The USB device is partitioned GUID partition table style, which 'sfdisk' (used as the startup disk back-end) cannot edit - it only understands MBR (Master Boot Record) style partition tables
[21:51] <axelm7> might just as well use tasksel to get it off the net
[21:51] <arvut> and cannot help but think: #dongforce
[21:51] <xeno> (effective)
[21:51] <thurstyl1rk> I had issues with an invidia driver upgrade a month ago, and there's another one availible to upgrade to. Does anyone know of any issues with the current driver upgrades?
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> pnielsen: 10.04 has 1.3, the rest have 1.4. dies the bug effect 1.4+ and not 1.3?
[21:52] <arvut> hitsujiTMO: can you place a 2 month ban on me pls?
[21:52] <xeno> TJ-:  So is the USB device just worthless now?
[21:52] <xeno> Cannot it be initialized to something useful?
[21:53] <arvut> IdleOne!
[21:53] <xeno> I want to install a bootable Ubuntu iso on it.  Nothing more.
[21:53] <xeno> I'll wait and check back in a bit.  I can see people are busy.
[21:54] <pnielsen> hitsujiTMO: As far as I know, it affects 1.3 as well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rubysec-announce/3sx25iR7yHQ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=737076
[21:54] <Dj-Wolf> why was shar removed from the channel?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> Dj-Wolf: advertising bot
[21:54] <k1l_> Dj-Wolf: discuss that in #ubuntu-ops please
[21:55] <Dj-Wolf> i was just wondering that's all
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> pnielsen: all i can suggest is report a bug.
[21:56] <thurstyl1rk> I had issues with an invidia driver upgrade a month ago, and there's another one availible to upgrade to. Does anyone know of any issues with the current driver upgrades?
[21:56] <pnielsen> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I will
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> thurstyl1rk: cat /etc/issue
[21:58] <TJ-> xeno: If you don't care for what's on the device now, simply "sudo sgdisk -Z /dev/sdX" where "X" is the device letter of the USB storage device. That will zap the partition tables of the device leaving it 'raw'.
[21:58] <JohanR> Hi, what irc proxy do you use?
[22:01] <xeno> TJ- Did that.  Messing with it now.
[22:01] <xeno> Thank you...
[22:01] <xeno> Not sure yet if it worked...
[22:06] <axelm7> seems that the best combination for this crappy box is xfce and nvidia proprietary drivers
[22:07] <starrats> is there another site other than someone's ppa to download hexchat for ubuntu?
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> starrats: official ppa is https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> starrats: otherwise build from source
[22:08] <kostkon> starrats, it's an official ppa and provides only the hexchat package so i guess it's safe enough
[22:09] <starrats> ah okay thanks
[22:09] <kongthap> if i like to run GUI app from the command line by typing the app name "subl myfile.php", how to make terminal back to the shell prompt without waiting for the app to be closed first ???
[22:10] <greeter> try "subl myfile.php &" although to be honest i'm not sure if that will take you back to the terminal or not
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> kongthap: subl moo &                         but closing the terminal will still close sublime
[22:10] <TJ-> kongthap: Put the process into the background, suffix the command with &
[22:11] <kongthap> hitsujiTMO, TJ- , thanks :)
[22:11] <TJ-> kongthap: or use "nohup <command....>" if you want to be able to close the terminal
[22:13] <kongthap> TJ-, i used & but it still ok when closing the terminal, i only did with sublime, don't know about the others
[22:13] <JoshuaP> if i have assigned failover IPs to a server, do i have to use the server to grab the IPs before they reply to ping?
[22:19] <xeno> So after my usb drive  initialization, and two reboots from crashes, I get:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893946/
[22:19] <xeno> Trying to erase the drive, which is still seen as unaccessible by "Startup Disk Creator"
[22:20] <xeno> Also, Startup disk creator had a tantrum just before I my 14.04 crashed.
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> xeno: #ubuntu+1 for anything trusty related
[22:21] <kostkon> xeno, you were in the wrong channel all along?
[22:22] <xeno> Ok.  Sorry.
[22:24] <treehouse> I've got 5 harddisks. They're put to sleep in windows, but I don't know whether they're put to sleep in linux when not used. How do I put the other 4 to sleep?
[22:27] <gobblette> hello
[22:27] <gobblette> i have a problem and not sure if it's with ubuntu or the USB adaptor
[22:27] <gobblette> my mouse keeps freezing up. when i disconnect it and reconnect it, though, it works
[22:28] <starrats> I thought I did it right but I guess I didn't what is the command to get adobe on ubuntu. thought i download it ok and I used sudo apt-get install adobe and nothing happened,
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> starrats: you want to install a company on ubuntu?
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> starrats: what exactly are you trying to install?
[22:30] <starrats> lol no adobe reader for youtube music
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> starrats: flash player?
[22:30] <theadmin> wat
[22:30] <starrats> yes
[22:30] <theadmin> starrats: You want "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[22:30] <starrats> flash player
[22:30] <theadmin> Adobe Reader is for PDFs. And Ubuntu has a much better reader built-in
[22:31] <kostkon> starrats, open the software centre, select edit -> software sources, enable the Partner repo in the 3rd party software tab, then search for adobe reader, flash etc
[22:31] <starrats> ah ok and thank you, first day with ubuntu
[22:32] <hexhaxtron> Is there a google script that provides links to a search? For example, $ google wikipedia, and it gives http://en.wikipedia.org among other links.
[22:36] <theadmin> hexhaxtron: https://code.google.com/p/googlecl/
[22:37] <theadmin> hexhaxtron: It's ancient, but may still work.
[22:38] <xeno> BTW:  Is there a clear document on how to upgrade from something like 12.04 to something like 13.10 so that people don't need to make the mistake of going to far from the most popular docs out there?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | xeno
[22:40] <starrats> got the flashplayer installed and listen to music.  by the way on software center could not find edit thing
[22:40] <treehouse> can I slim down ubuntu to take about.. no resources? I just need it to run ONE app, and that's all. I don't even need the desktop environment.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> !minimal | treehouse
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: install ubuntu-server or use the mini.iso, or do a debootstrap install
[22:42] <treehouse> good ideas. Already have a desktop installed though
[22:42] <ghostlines> man ubuntu is getting real lean, it looks like it's even using less memory than debian after a clean install
[22:42] <Jordan_U> treehouse: What is your end goal?
[22:42] <treehouse> took hours on my slowpoke mini-computer
[22:42] <treehouse> Jordan_U: virtualization to jail evil skype
[22:42] <treehouse> evil needs jails
[22:43] <bekks> jails are NOT for security.
[22:43] <master_op> hello, can anyone tell me how to set up an smtp server and use it ot just send email without receiving
[22:43] <bekks> Jails are for process separation.
[22:43] <treehouse> bekks: virtualization
[22:44] <treehouse> though, chroot adds a layer of "security"
[22:44] <mallocate> Hi, one question, I recently install a Ubuntu (gnome-ubuntu) on a macbook air 6.2 (mid 2013 version), and when I log in the gnome (or gnome classic) the brighness of LCD and the keyboard is adjustable, and also the sound controls, but when I install another WM (dwm, xfce...) this functions don't work. Anyone know who is the responsible? the name of daemon? to launch it manually, thanks!
[22:44] <bekks> jails have absolutely nothing to do with virtualization.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Ahh. Next time it would help to state that from the start. What type of virtualization (full, paravirt, or containers), and specifically what virtualization software.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:44] <bekks> jails do not add security.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> treehouse: No. chroot does not add security.
[22:44] <edurne> hola
[22:45] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Containers are lightweight like chroot, but actually do provide secure isolation.
[22:45] <treehouse> Jordan_U: let's assume that a program does this: system("rm -rf /"); .. chroot will certainly make sure that your HD isnt wiped out.
[22:46] <edurne> en espaГұol, porfi
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> !es | edurne
[22:47] <edurne> ya me entere
[22:47] <bekks> treehouse: Using a sane linux, that command will do actually nothing.
[22:47] <xeno> Sorry for the delay:  Thank you Jordan.
[22:47] <edurne> que lio
[22:47] <bekks> !es | edurne
[22:47] <treehouse> how do I set the default display for the whole ubuntu system?
[22:47] <treehouse> or all the graphics at least?
[22:47] <treehouse> is editing bashrc enough?
[22:48] <master_op> hello, can anyone tell me how to set up an smtp server and use it  just to send email without receiving
[22:48] <Jordan_U> treehouse: But if it does "chroot /../../../../../" then that same command (please avoid entering such commands in the channel) then it will remove all file in your actual root FS. chroot *does not* provide security. Period.
[22:49] <compdoc> master_op, easier to just install nullmailer
[22:49] <master_op> ok
[22:49] <kostkon> !info nullmailer
[22:49] <master_op> thank you
[22:49] <Jordan_U> treehouse: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/03/27/is-chroot-a-security-feature/
[22:49] <CrazyGangster> !ban
[22:49] <ldlework> !behaviour
[22:50] <compdoc> master_op, also install mailutils
[22:50] <compdoc> so you can send fromthe command line
[22:50] <master_op> i want to use it as an smtp to send from php or python
[22:51] <compdoc> hmm, dont know about those
[22:51] <compdoc> but it sends mail
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> master_op: mailgun is also a safe alternative if you want to outsurce it
[22:51] <master_op> ok, i will tak a look
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> if I have a custom root CA I want to add to ubuntu so that client programs which use openssl can verify against it, how do I do that?
[22:53] <master_op> hitsujiTMO, can i use mailgun or nullmailer as an smtp to send from php ?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> master_op: mailgun.com is a service with a php/python/ruby and even a curl api
[22:55] <master_op> thank you very much
[22:58] <treehouse> master_op you're welcome
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> zerowaitstate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73287/how-do-i-install-a-root-certificate
[23:01] <treehouse> so how do I set the display for ubuntu? (I want it to be a remote X session once the graphical things boots up)
[23:02] <Netwolf> 220 Opium.Pharm.Guru ESMTP ****** Authorized Users Only! All Opium Deals are final. Don't drink and drive ******
[23:03] <schreber> has anyone been experiencing shockwave crashing more since the update a few days ago specifically in Chromium?
[23:03] <whodat> my eth1 network card shows up in syslog, but it's not showing up in ifconfig....i have it in /etc/networking. what should I check?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> whodat: ifconfig -a
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> whodat: have you it configured in /etc/network/interfaces ???
[23:05] <whodat> ahh thanks hitsu.... that grabbed it as eth5 though...? it was eth1 in syslog
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> whodat: whats thew output of: ls /sys/class/net
[23:06] <whodat> hitsujiTMO: yes, but its eth1 in there. i guess i should change it to eth5 in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:06] <whodat> hitsujiTMO: checking...
[23:07] <whodat> hitsujiTMO: /sys/class/net shows eth0, eth1, lo
[23:07] <whodat> errr i mean eth0, eth5, lo
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> whodat:  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is prob responsible for it bing eth5 and not eth1
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> s/bing/being
[23:10] <whodat> hitsujiTMO: okay i will take a look at that thanks man
[23:13] <FourFire> hello
[23:13] <FourFire> I have an old hard drive which I stopped using because it started getting bad blocks
[23:14] <FourFire> is there some way I can get it to mark the bad blocks and reallocate (less) space so that I can still use it
[23:14] <FourFire> for some storage
[23:15] <FourFire> (It's turned into an external drive)
[23:16] <nightfly> Just get an old disk, the thing is dying
[23:16] <nightfly> *new disk
[23:17] <Dbugger> I have run a weird bug. I run grunt-contrib-jasmine in my machine (Ubuntu 13.10) in the desktop and it works with no problem. But when I move it to my other Hard Drive, mounter in /media/dbugger/Storage, it gives me a: Running "jasmine:src" (jasmine) task<EOL>Testing jasmine specs via PhantomJS<EOL><EOL>Fatal error: spawn EACCES... Can someone please explain me what is happening?
[23:18] <FourFire> nightfly, yeah I have
[23:18] <FourFire> but I'm wondering whether I can use the disk because it's still functional apparently apart from those bad blocks
[23:18] <FourFire> or whether I just have to chuck it, which is sort of giving up
[23:19] <profligacy> Does anyone in here speak spanish
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: EACCES means node doesn't have permission to read that directory. maybe you have an absolute path specified in your grunt config?
[23:20] <CrazyGangster> FourFire: You can repar the Bad bocks with http://www.piotrkn22.republika.pl/drev/
[23:21] <macosx> Say, unlike before installing Ubuntu, I was able to get to the Bios of this Mac Tower.  Now I cannot.  What group should I be in to ask about this?
[23:21] <macosx> Sorry., unlike after installing Ubuntu.
[23:21] <macosx> That was a lousy sentence anyway.
[23:21] <FourFire> CrazyGangster, sounds like really arcane stuff
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: bad blocks are almost always followed by more bad blocks.
[23:22] <CrazyGangster> FourFire: I successfully recover my HDD with BB
[23:22] <nightfly> FourFire: It's better to give up rather than lose data, since th disk is gonna only get worse over time
[23:22] <CrazyGangster> belive me
[23:22] <FourFire> CrazyGangster, I'm wondering more whether I can somehow cordon off the bad blocks and reuse the disk with less space
[23:22] <macosx> So, I have Ubuntu on a Mac tower and I cannot get to the bios any longer.  Please recommend somewhere to ask about this.
[23:22] <FourFire> data isn't an issue since anything important has been rescued already
[23:22] <greeter> FourFire: not gonna happen. my own hard disk is failing. it's a very slow failure, but eventually it will just give up and die someday
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> CrazyGangster: thats not repairing the bad blocks, thats moring them as bad blocks so they get ignored
[23:23] <greeter> in the past year i lost 33 sectors because they went bad
[23:23] <FourFire> how many sectors do you have?
[23:24] <CrazyGangster> hitsujiTMO: no it doesn't, im know what i talking about
[23:24] <CrazyGangster> if u dont belive try it
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> CrazyGangster: bad blocks are PHYSICAL errors. you cannot repair physical errors with software
[23:25] <greeter> i don't know, i've never counted them. suppose i should at some point
[23:26] <CrazyGangster> hitsujiTMO: some BB are magnetic problems and Yes are recoverable
[23:26] <CrazyGangster> i use all the time
[23:26] <CrazyGangster> just try it
[23:30] <CrazyGangster> FourFire: if u prefer cordon off the bad blocks and reuse the disk with less space, use fsck
[23:30] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, I dont! Its a relative one :(
[23:31] <Valduare> gah wish my macbook pro 7.1 worked with ubuntu
[23:31] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, why would it work otherwise in the Desktop and not in the other location?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: what filesystem is the other location?
[23:35] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, Im not sure. How can I find out?
[23:35] <Viking667> quick question about custom resolutions... how do I add them and where?
[23:36] <Viking667> currently I've got no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:36] <bekks> Create that file if you need it.
[23:36] <Viking667> sigh. Then I've got to stuff around with all the schlock I need. Okay.
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> Viking667: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[23:36] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, It is NTFS
[23:37] <Viking667> I was hoping that the /usr/X11/.../xorg.conf.d/ stuff had what I wanted...
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: maybe it exact operation is expecting a linux filesystem permission
[23:38] <Dbugger> You mean that I can only run JS tests in a Linux Partition?
[23:38] <Dbugger> That is really weird...
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: jasmine is trying to execute something but can't because it doesn't have the linux executable permission.
[23:40] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, and thats dependant on the location?
[23:40] <student> hey, can anyone help me out with a question?
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: see second last comment here https://github.com/yeoman/generator-webapp/issues/106
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: ntfs doesn't support linux permissions. so scripts can't be made exectable
[23:41] <student> I'm having a lot of trouble installing ubuntu alongside windows 7 and have exhaused every existing thread I can find
[23:41] <Dbugger> Oh wow, that sucks
[23:41] <Dbugger> I wonder if I can fix it somehow
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: format the ntfs partition as ext4? :)
[23:43] <locodir-user> Hello!
[23:43] <Dbugger> Oh, well, then I wouldnt be able to reach it from my Window OS
[23:45] <locodir-user> if we have a shared hard disk of 500GB and we want to make a triple boot system, how we can install the linux on one of partition? Must we create sub partitions on the main partition for /home and swap or we just choose the partition and the next to continue the installation?
[23:46] <locodir-user> Hello!!!!!
[23:47] <locodir-user> Helloooooooooooooooooooo!
[23:47] <greeter> greetings locodir-user
[23:47] <locodir-user> greetings greeter,too
[23:48] <locodir-user> could you help me?
[23:48] <Ben64> !patience | locodir-user
[23:48] <greeter> maybe. i'm by no means a linux guru. what's your issue?
[23:48] <locodir-user> I don't know how to install the linux ubuntu
[23:49] <locodir-user> I am not sure If I have to make sub parts in linux partition to install them
[23:49] <Ben64> have to? no
[23:49] <skd5aner> Hello, my SATA3 SSD is loading as 3.0Gb/s vs 6.0Gb/s, even though the port is SATA3.  Here's the output from smartctl -x /dev/sdb1:  "SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)" - any ideas on how to force that to 6.0Gb/s?
[23:49] <locodir-user> could you help me?
[23:50] <Ben64> locodir-user: you'd need to fully explain your issue
[23:50] <z0ran> locodir-user: is simple to install, try and you cant miss ;)
[23:50] <locodir-user> I have a 500 GB hard disk and I shared it in threed partitions
[23:50] <locodir-user> one for windows, one for mac os x and one for linux
[23:50] <student> I've been trying to partition my ssd to install ubuntu alongside windows. I have windows on one primary partition, and unallocated space leftover. Every time I try to format that partition to a linux filesystem, it seems to erase the windows partition. Does anyone have experience with this?
[23:51] <locodir-user> I want to install the linux ubuntu on the third partition
[23:51] <locodir-user> but I don't know how
[23:51] <z0ran> i never installed mac os, but windows and linux is very simple task
[23:51] <Ben64> locodir-user: the installer will guide you, but i'm not sure of its effect on mac
[23:51] <locodir-user> Must I choose the partition or I have to create something more?
[23:51] <locodir-user> no no
[23:51] <Ben64> student: the installer only removes partitions if you tell it to
[23:52] <locodir-user> the linux will be installed in a seperate partition not in the same
[23:52] <locodir-user> but I don't know how to install them
[23:52] <z0ran> you have a lot howtos on the net, just google a little....ubuntu have so many good documentation locodir-user
[23:52] <Ben64> locodir-user: right, but i'm still not sure about the booting process of osx, it could mess with it
[23:52] <locodir-user> just choosing the partition and the next til the final step or I have to make something more?
[23:53] <student> It didn't remove the partition - it's still visible in disks on my livecd, but I can't boot into windows and now ubuntu no longer shows the drive in "files"
[23:53] <student> So it seems to have been formatted
[23:53] <student> this has happened two or three times now
[23:54] <Ben64> student: pastebin "sudo blkid"
[23:54] <student> Each time, I start with a fresh install of windows, leaving 25 GB for the future ubuntu install
[23:54] <student> sure
[23:54] <student> disks shows the two partitions
[23:54] <student> but gparted just shows all free space
[23:54] <student> or unallocated space, I should say
[23:54] <Ben64> gparted where
[23:54] <locodir-user> at my previous tries when I chose only the partition and the next, after restart I could get in windows
[23:55] <student> on my live cd
[23:55] <locodir-user> no the hard disk is ready shared
[23:55] <student> http://pastebin.com/jYLacYuM
[23:55] <locodir-user> the only that I want the steps to install the linux ubuntu on the third partition
[23:55] <student> sda is the destination
[23:56] <Ben64> uh... there is no sda
[23:56] <student> oh hmm
[23:56] <student> sda shows in disks
[23:57] <student> and even shows 85GB free space where windows was
[23:57] <locodir-user> no no the windows is ready also the mac os x
[23:57] <locodir-user> installed
[23:57] <student> when I booted the livecd the first time before formatting the leftover space for ubuntu, I could see my windows files in "files"
[23:57] <student> now I can't and I can't boot into windows either
[23:57] <locodir-user> the only that remain is the linux ubuntu
[23:58] <locodir-user> that's right student
[23:58] <student> thanks for taking the time ben64
[23:58] <Ben64> student: anyway, i'd guess that you're installing windows using gpt, and windows' gpt is strange and doesn't play nicely with linux. if you make the partitions in gparted before installing either, then install windows into the ntfs partition that gparted made, then ubuntu in the ext4 one, it should work fine
[23:58] <locodir-user> we have the same problem
[23:58] <locodir-user> anyway
[23:58] <locodir-user> is there somebody with kindness here to help us or not?
[23:58] <student> so completely wipe the disk again?
[23:58] <student> ben64 has been great
[23:58] <Ben64> student: would be easiest
[23:59] <student> ok, thanks
[23:59] <student> one related question
[23:59] <locodir-user> everywhere we face the same spoof
[23:59] <locodir-user> nobody try to help us
[23:59] <locodir-user> and they play with us
[23:59] <Ben64> locodir-user: again, i'm not sure how installing ubuntu would affect osx's boot
[23:59] <student> I do have a backup of my  system for windows - when I do a fresh reinstall and restore, it won't reformat the disk, right?