[00:00] <dand> powertool08: thank you :-D
[00:00] <powertool08> np
[00:01] <rogan> can any problems arise from trying ubuntu over vista on an emulator?
[00:02] <vonkleist> It depends on the emulator
[00:02] <zerothis> I'm having trouble installing virtualbox. The build failed for the kernel module. and "No suitable module for running kernel found." The installer suggested I install the sources from my kernel, I literally have everything "2.6.24-21" installed under adept. I guess that doesn't include source? how do install 2.6.24-21 source? vbox-install.log <http://pastebin.com/d698a801b>
[00:04] <conanius> tim, its a shame you cant use itunes in ubuntu
[00:11] <zerothis> conanius: have you tried rythmbox ?
[00:12] <jonwalker> help!
[00:12] <oobe> zerothis, im sure conanius may not find rhythmbox very relavent as he is not trying to play music he is trying to run a vurtual machine
[00:12] <jonwalker> ive installed ATI drivers, but my image is 640x480
[00:12] <zerothis> oh, sorry
[00:14] <oobe> conanius, this should work for you http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualbox_ubuntu
[00:17] <conanius> oobe, how do you kill stuck apps in ubuntu
[00:18] <deftone> i need to install a few things through package manger. can somene help me install one so i know the process?
[00:25] <oobe> conanius, from console you type kill PID or killall process name
[00:25] <oobe> if it still wont work try kill -9 or killall -9
[00:26] <oobe> PID stands for process ID
[00:26] <oobe> if you dont know how to find out the pid you can look for it by typing "ps aux | grep mplayer "
[00:27] <oobe> thats an example if you wanted to find out the pid of mplayer
[00:32] <Woody86> why isn't the #kubuntu+1 chat showing up? Is it still around?
[00:32] <Dragnslcr> Think there's only #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <Woody86> Dragnslcr -  oh, ok thx
[00:32] <oobe> i just joined it it redirectd me to that channel
[00:33] <Woody86> would I be better off asking questions about 8.10 here, or in #ubuntu +1?
[00:34] <oobe> i dont like it when people ask questions and dont know how to understand the answers if you mention the console
[00:35] <oobe> :P
[00:36] <Woody86> are you referring to cononius?
[00:37] <Woody86> Can anyone help me try to get the proper screen resolution in Kubuntu 8.10?
[00:37] <ghostcube> hmm set it in xorg.conf
[00:38] <Woody86> ghostcube -  it's that simple? my monitor came with an "installation" disc that I had to use under Windows
[00:39] <ghostcube> u only need the resolution what grafic card is this ?
[00:39] <Woody86> ghostcube -  MSI NX8600GT (Nividia)
[00:40] <ghostcube> just open nvidia-settings
[00:40] <oobe> Woody86, its a general observation
[00:40] <Woody86> oobe -  ah, I see :D
[00:40] <oobe> but yeah conanius made me think of it
[00:40] <ghostcube> Woody86: to let nvidia-settings save the org.conf file u must run it with sudo
[00:40] <Woody86> oobe -  but you actually expect people to know what the console is?!?! Outrageous! :P
[00:41] <oobe> its easier to tell ppl how to do things on console
[00:41] <ghostcube> oobe: not to answer != not understanding
[00:41] <ghostcube> only for info
[00:41] <deftone> is there a fix yet for 3d acceleration on the intel gm965 yet ?
[00:42] <oobe> and there is less chance of an error
[00:42] <Woody86> so sudo kate the file?
[00:42] <oobe> deftone, yes but an nvidia card :P
[00:42] <ghostcube> Woody86: just open nvidia-settings
[00:42] <powertool08> Woody86: sudo nano in a terminal ;)
[00:42] <ghostcube> and set it u want if u want it to be saved in xorg u must run sudo nvidia-settings
[00:43] <Woody86> ah, ok :)
[00:43] <Woody86> I'm re-installing Kubuntu right now, so I'll give it a try as soon as this damn thing works, thanks!
[00:44] <ghostcube> inteprid ?
[00:44] <Woody86> yup :)
[00:44] <ghostcube> ok the 173 repo drivers should work fine th 177.80 is a bit buggy
[00:44] <Woody86> ok, thx :)
[00:45] <Woody86> yeah I noticed the 177 didn't want to do anything when I tried to install it :(
[00:53] <jimmy51_home> if i have a 30 GB drive as my system drive, and a 200 GB drive added for additional storage, is there a typical directory that's typically used to mount permanent storage under?
[01:00] <powertool08> jimmy51_home: mine is mounted under /media/, /mnt/ is available as well, or you can put it wherever you want
[01:00] <jimmy51_home> ok
[01:00] <jimmy51_home> i put it under ~/Storage
[01:00] <powertool08> jimmy51_home: As long as you know where to find it, then its a good place :)
[01:06] <_2> does anyone know why a manufacture might put a choke on an ide cable ?
[01:07] <hernan> hi
[01:13] <BluesKaj> howdy
[01:16] <ubuntu> ciao raga
[01:16] <ubuntu> una info raga
[01:17] <ubuntu> ma a livello di prestazioni mi consigliate ubuntu 8.10 oppure la kubuntu 8.10_
[01:17] <mneptok> !it > ubuntu
[01:19] <redvamp128> Question-- In the updates today I noticed a do not bump Kubuntu up to intrepid? Does it have issues?
[01:19] <LjL> redvamp128: uh? Intrepid was not released
[01:20] <redvamp128> I know-- it is still in beta-- but I noticed it on the updates..
[01:21] <gm04030276> !pastebin
[01:22] <kc8hfi> http://fpaste.org is also nice
[01:26] <gm04030276> the ltsp guys have a really good one :)
[01:26] <deftone> Anyone know how to get 3D Acceleration on the Intel GM965??
[01:28] <nelsonstreet> deftone: I wish I could help you but I have no idea even where to start just waking up
[01:28] <nelsonstreet> !3D
[01:29] <nelsonstreet> !3D Acceleration
[01:29] <nelsonstreet> !help
[01:29] <_2> deftone that is not kde specific, so you can ask in #ubuntu as well
[01:29] <_2> !fishing > nelsonstreet
[01:32] <vote_4_Obama> hey guys, anyone here good with wifi card issues?
[01:33] <nelsonstreet> oh uh played with that last night
[01:33] <nelsonstreet> vote_4_Obama: try looking up Ndiswrapper
[01:33] <nelsonstreet> !wireless
[01:34] <_2> also take note that your political message contained in your name is against freenode policy.
[01:34] <_2> !freenode
[01:34] <vote_4_Obama> whoa, really?
[01:35] <_2> yes reall
[01:35] <_2> y
[01:35] <nelsonstreet> Thank you for the change v4O
[01:36] <v4O> okay, so, can anyone help me out? i am desperate at this point
[01:36] <nelsonstreet> Did you read my post above?
[01:37] <v4O> yes sir, I tried, but i cant find the drivers, its for my girlfriends laptop, compaq presario c700
[01:37] <nelsonstreet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs and then look into Ndiswrapper this may help you
[01:37] <nelsonstreet> I used this and I am on a Compaq Presario R3000
[01:38] <v4O> ok, i will check it out, i will be back later if i need more help....so i will probably be back, lol
[01:39] <Meeso_OS> heh
[01:39] <Meeso_OS> I cant connect to my wireless network
[01:39] <nelsonstreet> @now est
[01:39] <Meeso_OS> when I turned off kubuntu
[01:39] <Meeso_OS> it gives errors in a DOS like screen
[01:39] <Meeso_OS> it says
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> its failing to kill network manager
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> it also says that when booting up kubuntu
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> I think that this is the root of my problem
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> anyway to fix this?
[01:40] <_2> what release ?
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> umm
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> KDE 4
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> the most recent
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> with KDE 4
[01:41] <nelsonstreet> KDE 4 is beta still isn't it?
[01:41] <_2> hardy k4  or intrepid k4 ?
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> idk
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> nelsonstreet- KDE4 has been out of beta for several months
[01:41] <_2> command:  lsb_release -a
[01:41] <Dragnslcr> nelsonstreet- current version is 4.1.2
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> ?
[01:42] <Meeso_OS> is that to me?
[01:42] <_2> Meeso_OS yes
[01:42] <nelsonstreet> Dragnslcr: yeah I know
[01:42] <Meeso_OS> ok
[01:42] <Meeso_OS> so go to terminal
[01:42] <Meeso_OS> and run that command?
[01:42] <_2> sorry i'm too busy for this.   someone else catch that one.
[01:42] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:44] <gm04030276> whats up Meeso_OS?
[01:44] <yousef> who knows
[01:44] <Meeso_OS> heh
[01:44] <Meeso_OS> scroll up :P
[01:45] <gm04030276> yea got it
[01:45] <gm04030276> emm...
[01:45] <Meeso_OS> http://pastie.org/299392
[01:45] <gm04030276> don't know lol
[01:45] <Meeso_OS> >: (
[01:45] <nelsonstreet> Meeso_OS: I personally would just ormat and go back to 3.5 myself
[01:46] <nelsonstreet> format
[01:46] <Meeso_OS> I installed with wubi
[01:46] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:46] <Meeso_OS> that means I have to DL *again*
[01:46] <faileas> Meeso_OS: if you didn't tell it to, it usually keeps the iso somewhere
[01:47] <Meeso_OS> I had to reinstall windows
[01:47] <Meeso_OS> because of kubuntu
[01:47] <Meeso_OS> it wouldnt boot
[01:47] <Meeso_OS> it just said
[01:47] <Meeso_OS> 'Starting service...'
[01:47] <yousef> ..fail
[01:48] <nelsonstreet> ...safe
[01:49] <qara> :\
[01:49] <qara> :/
[01:49] <qara> :\
[01:49] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:49] <Meeso_OS> lol
[01:49] <qara> lol
[01:50] <qara> best solution is reinstall kubuntu withe kde3.5
[01:50] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:50] <Meeso_OS> *sigh*
[01:50] <gm04030276> long live kde 3.5 lol!
[01:50] <qara> :\
[01:51] <qara> i have 3.5
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> heh
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> I like gnome though :D
[01:51] <qara> anti-fail
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> oh lol
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> I has my ubuntu CD !!!
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> I kept it :D
[01:51] <qara> well then there u go
[01:51] <gm04030276> I tried 4...it crashed alot...i went back to 3.5...I hope its better now :)
[01:51] <Meeso_OS> wootage :D
[01:51] <gm04030276> Gnome was good until it didn't like my laptop keyboard :)
[01:52] <gm04030276> and just didn't use it...
[01:52] <qara> gnome looks like crap
[01:52] <nelsonstreet> kde seems to support more drivers and such
[01:52] <mole___> gnome was good before around kde 2
[01:52] <nelsonstreet> 3.5
[01:52] <qara> gnome looks like it as an abandoned project
[01:52] <qara> over 5 years ago
[01:52] <gm04030276> gnome is pretty sexy...in parts...but i still always use kde :)
[01:53] <nelsonstreet> ditto
[01:53] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:53] <Meeso_OS> I like gnome :D
[01:53] <_2> twm for the win
[01:53] <mole___> gnome is good if kde never existed and even then it's still annoying
[01:54] <qara> gnome is good if your trying to make kde look good
[01:54] <faileas> hmm
[01:54] <qara> mmh
[01:55] <gm04030276> haha
[01:56] <deftone> What's a good dock applet to use?
[01:56] <_2> gnome is good for offtopic discussions
[01:56] <faileas> I have a kubuntu system currently dualbooting with a windows box. I'd like to image it somehow so that i can get it onto a VM since i intend to do a wipe and reinstall when intrepid comes out, but don't want to have too much disruption... if i just imaged and restored the linux partition, how hard would it be for me to restore the bootloader?
[01:57] <gm04030276> faileas, why not just use the update tool in adept?
[01:57] <_2> faileas grub is an easy fix.
[01:58] <_2> !grub | faileas
[01:58] <faileas> gm04030276: well amongst other things, if things go wrong, i want to be able to access the system. I also want a fresh install of XP
[01:58] <gm04030276> lol ok
[01:58] <gm04030276> well, you can image the whole drive using the dd command...
[01:58] <faileas> (and i don't need to suffer withdrawal from my nicely tuned set up)
[01:58] <qara> when updating to the new version, how do u get it to unistall unused packages
[01:58] <mole___> before installing windows you should always backup your mbr "dd if=/dev/hda of=/mymbr.bin size=512 count=1"
[01:58] <mole___> then in case of emergency you can always copy it back
[01:59] <gm04030276> qara...it should do that automatically...
[01:59] <faileas> I'm using g4l for that. i just don't want to virtualise te windows partition to save space
[01:59] <mole___> cause windows is like an old school virus that without asking hijacks your mbr
[01:59] <qara> i hope so
[02:00] <_2> mole___ just an fyi  size=512 is redundant. 512 is the default
[02:00] <gm04030276> qara, you should see it saying something like install 500 update 300 remove 200 (highly guessed numbers!)
[02:00] <gm04030276> qara and prepare to wait a few hours :)
[02:00] <mole___> _2: there u go then
[02:01] <faileas> another question, do i need the same version of ubuntu, or can i use a newer one, to fix grub?
[02:01] <_2> any
[02:01] <mole___> you should be able to chroot into your own linux just with the bootcd's kernel then just use your version of grub to fix it
[02:01] <mole___> (i think)
[02:01] <qara> lol ok as long as it keeps things clean
[02:01] <faileas> neat
[02:02] <qara> what does red text mean?
[02:02] <mole___> danger
[02:04]  * nelsonstreet time to fall asleep
[02:04] <gm04030276> qara: its just to highlight that someone has sent a message with your name in ti
[02:05] <nelsonstreet> A private message
[02:06] <_2> faileas did you read the page on fixing grub that the bot posted to you ?
[02:07] <qara> gm04030276: ok
[02:07] <_2> red text?
[02:07] <qara> was that red?
[02:08] <_2> red text?
[02:08] <qara> _2 yea
[02:08] <gm04030276> qara: yes...as is this
[02:08] <qara> lol i see
[02:08] <qara> RED
[02:09] <_2> that is irc client dependant you do know.
[02:09] <mole___> are you high?
[02:09] <qara> no im doing homework but not rly
[02:09] <_2>  looks black to me.
[02:09] <qara>
[02:10] <qara>
[02:10] <qara>
[02:10] <qara>
[02:10] <qara>
[02:11] <_2> anyway to add an ip to listen on while sshd is running ?   or does it require a reset ?
[02:11] <_2> s=anyway=any way=
[02:12] <_2> or even better, how to make ssh listen to all ip's ?
[02:14] <_2> ah maybe omitting "ListenAddress" will do it.
[02:15] <jimmy51_home> i've mounted a partition under /home/jimmy/Storage, but as user jimmy i can't write to it
[02:15] <jimmy51_home> how can i set it such that it and all future subdirectories are read/writable by me?
[02:16] <_2> jimmy51_home what fs ?
[02:16] <jimmy51_home> ext3
[02:16] <_2> sudo chown -R $USER /home/jimmy/Storage
[02:17] <jimmy51_home> _2: thanks
[02:18] <_2> note that the creator of any inode will own it.    so setting "all fueture..." is not possable.
[02:18] <deftone> Anyone know if Ubuntu is gonna have a fix for running compiz-fusion with Intel GM965 ?
[02:19] <_2> deftone you are talking about hardware support.  you might ask the bot about !hardware and !ati
[02:20] <_2> and yes, i know you didn't say ati. just trust me on that one.
[02:21] <_2> !proprietary
[02:21] <_2> !fishing > me
[02:21] <qara> pwnt
[02:22] <grendal_prime> this makes me soooo damn crazy!!!
[02:22] <grendal_prime> i cannot adjust the compiz settings!!!!
[02:22] <grendal_prime> motherfkr
[02:22] <qara> come piss
[02:22] <grendal_prime> ccsm runs...i can make changes..they dont do ANYTHING and when i close it and reopen it they are right back where they were.
[02:23] <grendal_prime> has anyone had this problem??
[02:23] <qara> unknown
[02:28] <Woody86> how can I check for updates in Kubuntu?
[02:28] <mathiasbrito> Hi, Folks i'm trying to compile kde from tunk, i'm getting 'Alsa Not Found' when compiling kdebase... I'm running Kubuntu 8.10 Beta... Any hints?!
[02:29] <mathiasbrito> which package should I install?
[02:29] <claiton> algum brasileiro poraki?
[02:29] <mathiasbrito> i already installed libasound2-dev and libasound2
[02:29] <Woody86> is there some kind of update manager like in gnome?
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Woody86- normally you'll see an icon down in the system tray when updates are available
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Woody86- You can check for updates manually in Adept
[02:34] <Woody86> Dragnslcr -  the lightbulb? I see it, but nothing's happening when I click it or right-click it. I was wondering if there was another way to check by yourself?
[02:35] <col_panic> I'm haivng a problem with grub
[02:35] <col_panic> error 22
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> I don't think it's a lightbulb
[02:35] <Dragnslcr> The tooltip should say something like "X updated packages available"
[02:35] <Woody86> Dragnslcr - I'm using 8.10, so it may be different
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> Maybe
[02:36] <col_panic> I had to do some crazy stuff to get my drive repartitioned, and now it won't boot
[02:36] <Dragnslcr> Might want to check in #ubuntu+1
[02:37] <col_panic> can anybody offer suggestions?
[02:38] <qara> !fail
[02:39] <qara> !girls
[02:39] <qara> hlol
[02:53] <ronnie> so, is the new kubuntu 8:10 still suppose to be released end of the month?  (crosses-fingers)
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Scheduled for the 30th
[02:54] <ronnie> kewl thx can't wait
[02:54] <ronnie> tired of trying the alpha bugs haha
[02:58] <mathiasbrito> i'm trying to compile kde from tunk, i'm getting 'Alsa Not Found' when compiling kdebase... I'm running Kubuntu 8.10 Beta... Any clue guys?!
[02:59] <oobe> yea mathiasbrito dont bother just use the packages
[03:00] <oobe> or you could install alsa dev packages
[03:05] <mathiasbrito> i'm a developer, i need the trunk version
[03:05] <mathiasbrito> i'm trying to compile kde from the truk
[03:06] <mathiasbrito> oobe: which package provide the alsa dev... i didnt found alsa-lib, but i found an a libasound that appears to be the equivalent
[03:08] <oobe> sorry mathiasbrito i said it off the top of my head you could try install the alsa sources though
[03:08] <oobe> aptitude search alsa
[03:08] <oobe> and see for youself whats available
[03:10] <mathiasbrito> it's ok...
[03:10] <mathiasbrito> i found the libasound-dev
[03:11] <mathiasbrito> the description is
[03:11] <mathiasbrito> libasound2-dev - ALSA library development files
[03:11] <mathiasbrito> but nothing
[03:11] <mathiasbrito> oobe: any idea!?
[03:19] <oobe> mathiasbrito, no sorry
[03:20] <mathiasbrito> okz...
[03:20] <mathiasbrito> thanks :)
[03:23] <oobe> mathiasbrito, try asking in #kde
[03:42] <mfree> pxel
[04:15] <Roger_Klotz> hi everyone, im looking for a little help with getting my drivers to work
[04:16] <mr---t-> !ask
[04:16] <nelsonstreet> which drivers exactly
[04:17] <Roger_Klotz> well my main question is about 32 bit vs 64 bit. is 64 bit really hard to find drivers for? Im thinking about dropping back to 32
[04:17] <DaSkreech> depends
[04:18] <Roger_Klotz> I cant get my xfi extreme audio to work, but i just found some linux drivers so that should work. my nvidia 8800 gts has linux drivers but my main problem is with my belkinf5d8001, its an altheros chipset, and from what ive read those things are hit and miss with linux. im wondering if id have better luck in 32 bit mode for my network card specifically
[04:20] <Roger_Klotz> and my other question is if I have 2 partitions on 1 disc, 1 being a windows partition and the other being the ubuntu partition, while im in linux where would i find my windows partition
[04:22] <Roger_Klotz> im just sick of windows failing, and some friends have been recommending linux for stability. Ive been fighting with the drivers for a whole day now, and from what ive experienced so far its very much like windows.
[04:25] <Roger_Klotz> ok...can anyone at least link me to a good networking walkthrough?
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: Creative is very Linux unfriendly though they are giving up some bones now
[04:26] <DaSkreech> I'd like to apologize for them but they are being pretty silly. I will say I'm very sorry for the experience you are going through now but it's probably going to be much better once you get past this
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: What kind of networking?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Wireless or Wired?
[04:26] <Roger_Klotz> wireless
[04:26] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[04:27] <seele> is there a way to use a kubuntu cd to install an older kernel?
[04:27] <Roger_Klotz> thanks ubottu
[04:27] <Roger_Klotz> ok
[04:28] <Roger_Klotz> my specific problem is before step 1 on that networking tutorial
[04:28] <Roger_Klotz> when i open Network it only displays PPPOE
[04:28] <Roger_Klotz> its not even detecting my card
[04:28] <Roger_Klotz> but if i use iwconfig it finds it
[04:31] <Roger_Klotz> and finally my stupidest question of the bunch, when i sudo it doesnt show my password while i type it, just stays blank as if im not typing
[04:33] <DaSkreech> seele: If you know what kernel is on the CD sure
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: That's a good thing :)
[04:35] <mr---t-> Roger_Klotz: are you using 64 bit, if so docs say you need to use ndiswrapper
[04:35] <seele> DaSkreech: do you know where the packages are?  there are about ten folders named the same thing
[04:35] <DaSkreech> seele: Just apt-cdrom and add the cdrom as a source
[04:35] <Roger_Klotz> yeah ive been trying to understand nwrapper
[04:36] <Roger_Klotz> im about to try that
[04:36] <Roger_Klotz> then ill go to 32 bit if that doesnt work
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: It's prtty much a set of software that lies to the driver to make it think that it's on windows
[04:36] <Roger_Klotz> so i just run those 3 files i downloaded? i think i have to add code or something right
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Where are you reading?
[04:37] <seele> huh.. that didn't work
[04:37] <seele> Reading Package Indexes...  It should have your Windows partition on the sidebar
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: Doh! are you on KDE3?
[04:57] <Roger_Klotz> no
[04:57] <Roger_Klotz> i should be huh
[04:57] <Roger_Klotz> :D
[04:57] <DaSkreech> KDE4? Are you running 8.10 ?
[04:58] <Roger_Klotz> no i have xfce 4 i believe
[04:58] <Roger_Klotz> should i switch to 8.4.1 of kubuntu?
[04:58] <Roger_Klotz> i already have the cd made
[04:58] <Roger_Klotz> well 32 bit cd
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Oh I have no idea what Thunar does :)
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Sorry :)
[04:59] <Roger_Klotz> im gonna switch because its a pain in the ass.
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: I'd actually just get the 8.10 RC
[04:59] <Roger_Klotz> production machine
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Roger_Klotz: You will probably be upgrading in a week anyway
[05:00] <DaSkreech> oooooooh
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Ok fine :0
[05:00] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> well if you want you can install from the network or from the CD
[05:00] <Roger_Klotz> had vista, but it keeps crashing, i think its the newest nvidia drivers
[05:00] <DaSkreech> CD is faster but network means you can hang out here :)
[05:00] <Roger_Klotz> i have a laptop
[05:01] <Roger_Klotz> right next to the desktop were talking about
[05:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:01] <Roger_Klotz> im assuming most of this trouble is coming from xubuntu
[05:02] <DaSkreech> It's not
[05:02] <mr---t-> xubuntu is pretty light weight
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Yeah but he's looking for drivers for the kernel which has nothing to do with the desktop
[05:03] <DaSkreech> They all have the same kernel
[05:03] <Roger_Klotz> but isnt it different terminal environments or something?
[05:03] <Roger_Klotz> and the file system thing? i need to get to my music :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Nope
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Well terminal environment
[05:04] <DaSkreech> but even then
[05:04] <DaSkreech> nope :)
[05:04] <Roger_Klotz> intresting
[05:05] <mr---t-> I've had better luck with kubuntu, but he's still going to have to fight the drivers issue
[05:06] <Roger_Klotz> theres a lot of windows releases for my network card though, and a lot of cards that use the same altheros chipset
[05:08] <Roger_Klotz> ohhhh and for the hdd issue, i missed the fact that you have to set mount points for other drives
[05:09] <Roger_Klotz> very cool
[05:09] <mr---t-> I've never worked with your belkin but I did get a f5d7001 working with ndiswrapper
[05:10] <nelsonstreet> Hey mr-t, did you see what mr-t is doing now, those late night adds about food proccessors
[05:11] <mr---t-> and as for crashes , I got into linux to rescue a crashed windows hd
[05:11] <mr---t-> no really I pity the fool
[05:11] <Roger_Klotz> when i was just trying it, i had dropped all the files to home and when i ran the util setup it crashed and said something along the lines of "cannot find common files"
[05:11] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: Yeah it's a very different system from windows :)
[05:11] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: can you paste bin it?
[05:11] <Daskreech> !paste | Roger_Klotz from here
[05:12] <nelsonstreet> paste bin is always kewl
[05:12] <mr---t-> bottom line no crashes in 6 monthes of linux
[05:13] <Daskreech> mr---t-: on the other hand when it crashes it crashes spectacularly
[05:13] <Daskreech> but as long as it's not a hardware or serious serious file system crash you can fix it
[05:13] <mr---t-> I 'll have to see
[05:14] <Daskreech> I've broken all sorts of things from my kernel to X to grub and I can still do work and get things sorted till I fix it
[05:14] <Roger_Klotz> ok im installing kubuntu now ill do that.
[05:14] <Daskreech> then back to normal :0
[05:14] <Daskreech> \Kira: hi
[05:14] <mr---t-> I've been told to keep your prior version of kernel tho
[05:14] <Bones122> Roger_Klotz: great choice
[05:14] <\Kira> Daskreech: hi
[05:14] <Daskreech> mr---t-: Yeah that helps
[05:15] <\Kira> Daskreech: whats up?
[05:15] <mr---t-> I've had a glitch or two but I used to lock up windows with regularity
[05:16]  * Bones122 shutters thinking about windows
[05:16] <mr---t-> ha he said shutters ... get it?
[05:17] <Bones122> right over there heads
[05:17]  * mr---t- tinks windows was invented to keep people out of there own software
[05:17]  * mr---t- thinks even
[05:18] <Bones122> I was reading the source code of vista, on about line 13,534 it states vista was build on the windows me kernal
[05:19] <mr---t-> I hope you rebooted after that
[05:19] <\Kira> Bones122: how did you manage to read the source of a closed source operating system?
[05:20]  * mr---t- thinks he was joking
[05:20] <\Kira> I see
[05:20] <\Kira> :( sarcasm is hard to read without faces
[05:21] <\Kira> or not nessesarily sarcasm, but you know what i mean
[05:21] <mr---t-> well he said the word vista , which tipped me off
[05:22] <mr---t-> Even windows doesn't want to call it that now
[05:23] <\Kira> did you know microsoft got more pushy with having an authenticicated version of vista? Rather than just the annoying pop up box in the corner like windows xp, the screen now turns completely black after an hour of use. The chinese are pissed, since vista costs more than they earn in a month (most of them, anyways)
[05:23] <\Kira> read it on slashdot
[05:25] <Roger_Klotz> if im setting up 2 partitions would i want the / directory or the /home directory bigger
[05:26] <\Kira> Roger_Klotz: my home directory is bigger, but thats because i do alot of iso backups. I would recommend to have the / directory bigger if you install more than you save in your home
[05:26] <Roger_Klotz> nope kira im just like you. 1 program
[05:26] <\Kira> my / directory adds up to 4gigs, and my home to 23
[05:26] <Roger_Klotz> ty
[05:26] <\Kira> np
[05:28] <Roger_Klotz> wooohooo partitions set up let the install begin
[05:32] <Roger_Klotz> can anyone recommend me some must have packages for kubuntu
[05:35] <mr---t-> I personally like firefox and thunderbird and krusader and many of the standard ones that come with
[05:35] <mr---t-> but thats just me
[05:35] <\Kira> Roger_Klotz: Compiz is nessesary for me, I actually took the time to set it up at my school acount :D
[05:36] <mr---t-> I did remove dolphin though
[05:37] <\Kira> At first workspaces seemed so dumb, but when i work on projects and I dont feel the need to close everything as soon as possible anymore. After a while the fact that windows doesnt have workspaces makes it difficult to work with
[05:37] <mr---t-> It didn't like my thumb drive for some reason
[05:38] <\Kira> I hate doplin, everything in the media section doesnt work, the shortcuts allways cause doubles. Theres no up directory button. The only thing thats nice is the icons
[05:38] <mr---t-> Oh when I' on a windows box I miss stuff like being able to just hover the mouse over the speaker and scroll wheel for volume control
[05:39] <coreymon77> mr---t-: when im on a windows box i miss stuff like the computer working
[05:39] <coreymon77> :P
[05:39] <\Kira> lol! I just tried that.  2. I think mac got them from linux (please correct if wrong)
[05:41] <mr---t-> I disagree they are trying to supress linux I think
[05:41] <coreymon77> \Kira: other way around
[05:41] <\Kira> Well, I read articles about microsoft making samba function more smoothly in vista
[05:42] <\Kira> coreymon77: linux got from mac?
[05:42] <coreymon77> well, its sorta a back and forth thing
[05:42] <\Kira> coreymon77: I see
[05:43] <Roger_Klotz> dolphin is so much better than thunar my god
[05:43] <mr---t-> Yeah but with this I can tweak things to suit me
[05:43] <\Kira> coreymon77: well, I just summerize and say that microsoft tried to copy the other ones
[05:43] <coreymon77> everyone copies veryone else
[05:44] <\Kira> coreymon77: but i wouldn't care, normally. I mean, its not like they are going to miss out on great effects just so they arn't "copying". What bothers me is how bad they did and how people think microsoft invented it
[05:44] <mr---t-> Roger_Klotz: you can use konqeror to do the same things
[05:45] <coreymon77> \Kira: well of course, people are idiots
[05:45]  * mr---t- likes krusader better for file manipulation
[05:45] <coreymon77> \Kira: hence why microsoft has a majority market share right now
[05:45] <\Kira> Roger_Klotz: konqeror doesnt work with gmail or youtube for me, and it always makes the amarok usd box appear when I start it
[05:45] <Roger_Klotz> oh thats sweet mr t
[05:45] <coreymon77> !bug #1 | \Kira
[05:45] <\Kira> coreymon77: :)
[05:46] <coreymon77> !bug 1 | \Kira
[05:46] <coreymon77> whoops
[05:46] <coreymon77> wrong one
[05:46] <mr---t-> I meant as a file manager not as a browser
[05:46] <\Kira> coreymon77: ?
[05:47] <Roger_Klotz> which kubuntu standard music player do you guys use
[05:47] <\Kira> Roger_Klotz: I love amarok
[05:47] <coreymon77> \Kira: look at that first link, the one for launchpad
[05:47] <\Kira> Roger_Klotz: I thought rythmbox was good until I switched to kde
[05:48] <\Kira> coreymon77: k, one sec
[05:50] <\Kira> coreymon77: lol, i never thought someone would actually write a bug report for a whole OS. lol
[05:50] <mr---t-> Roger_Klotz: tip #1 use auto complete, Type the first letter of someone name and then hit tab until the right name comes up
[05:51] <mr---t-> saves much typing
[05:51] <coreymon77> \Kira: thats not just any bug, its bug #1
[05:51] <\Kira> coreymon77: yeah, do you know if it was actually the first bug reported, or just moved to first?
[05:53] <coreymon77> no clu
[05:53] <coreymon77> e
[05:53] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: My / is 7 Gigs I've never come close to filling it in 3 years
[05:54] <mr---t-> coreymon77: someone was in here earlier asking how to revert to the alpha 4 kernel , what does this mean?
[05:55] <coreymon77> no idea
[05:55] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: Dolphin's actually pretty crappy in KDE3 It's much much nicer in KDE4
[05:56] <mr---t-> there was an alpha in hardy and is one now in ibex but I have only heard kernels refered to by number
[05:57] <Daskreech> \Kira: First bug reported
[05:57] <Daskreech> mr---t-: They want to go back to using the kernel that was installed with Ibex Alpha 4
[05:57] <Daskreech> hi jono
[05:57] <coreymon77> gnight all
[05:59] <mr---t-> nite
[05:59] <Daskreech> night coreymon77
[05:59] <Daskreech> See you soon
[05:59] <jono> hey Daskreech
[05:59] <Daskreech> !katapult
[06:00] <mathiasbrito> someone compiled kdebase from trunk in kubuntu 8.10 beta?
[06:00] <mathiasbrito> i'm getting a problem with alsa, it is not being found
[06:14] <\Kira> I can't put my virtualboxOSE file into a truecrypt container, I get different errors depending on my method. Any help?
[06:27] <Daskreech> What errors?
[06:43] <\Kira> Daskreech: well, I got file to big errors, the location can not be found. But I reliezed my set-up was in-secure because if someone knew I had an linux OS on the truecrypt drive then they could use the kernel code to get close and eventually crack my password. I'm reconsidering my approach, now. Thanks for the help, though.
[06:46] <Daskreech> ok
[06:53] <rogan> !ntl
[06:54] <grendal_prime> i need a shortcut key to minimize all the running apps on my desktop
[06:54] <grendal_prime> its really frustrating..
[06:54] <grendal_prime> it would be nice if i could set up the middle mouse button for that..but...i just dont see a place to do that.
[06:57] <bkm> test
[06:58] <powertool08> !test | bkm
[06:58]  * shibz tested
[06:58] <powertool08> !botsnack
[06:59] <S3cReT^b0Y> Mmm
[06:59] <Daskreech> grendal_prime: alt+ctrl+D
[07:00] <grendal_prime> ya but how do i bind that to a mouse button?
[07:00] <Roger_Klotz> so im going with madwifi since im on 32 bit now, does anyone have experience with it?
[07:17] <Daskreech> I don't
[07:17] <Daskreech> !wifi
[07:19] <\Kira> I changed my username successfully, but my home directory name remained the same. Is there a way I can change this without effecting other programs?
[07:21] <\Kira> I guess I could just copy the content of my home directory to another name, then make the old name a sym link, but I would perfer to do something more tidy.
[07:25] <rogan> what is yalls prefered irc program for ubuntu?
[07:28] <Daskreech> \Kira: What are you trying to do?
[07:28] <Daskreech> !irc
[07:31] <\Kira> Daskreech: Sorry for not being more clear, but this is my system related. Im trying to change my username, I dont want to make a new account for the work it would take to set up kde how I like again, and have to copy my game data. I just want to have my username changed, wich means my home directory name aswell. Any ideas?
[07:31] <\Kira> I've changed my username throught the kde application, but it doesnt change my home directory name
[07:38] <rogan> whats the best irc program for kubuntu (for running a bot)
[07:59] <Daskreech> \Kira: how did you change your name ?
[08:00] <Daskreech> rogan: That doesn't make much sense :)
[08:08] <cryingtux> hello
[08:08] <cryingtux> a little help
[08:09] <cryingtux> i want to have  File Manager - Super User Mode which is missing, how to enable it?
[08:10] <oobe> use the console so as not to need it
[08:12] <cryingtux> oobe: i have dolphin, that doesnt show open as root option, is there any way to get that? these two things make it more easy for me to manage my system
[08:12] <oobe> or try kdesu dolphin
[08:13] <oobe> yes i understood you i was being a smart arse
[08:13] <oobe> but now i answered your question
[08:13] <oobe> kdesu dolphin will work
[08:14] <oobe> if you dont want to run it from konsole type it it the run dialogue alt + f2
[08:14] <cryingtux> thanks oobe will try that, i had kurumin installed previously , it had that option enabled by default in GUI for dolphin, it was much easy
[08:14] <ardchoille> What is the name of the recommended html editor/environment for Kubuntu?
[08:14] <Roger_Klotz> GUYS IM ALMOST DONE SETTING UP NDISWRAPPER YESSSS
[08:14] <oobe> Roger_Klotz, congratulations
[08:15] <Roger_Klotz> ty oobe
[08:18] <cryingtux> oobe: this  kdesu dolphin is working fine, but sorta long route, in PCMan File Manager and dolphin there is an option "open as root" for any drive/folder that you open, you just enter pw and thats it, much easier
[08:22] <JackWinter> what ftp server would you reccomend (for occasional xfers with friends)
[08:25] <cryingtux> oobe: http://arstechnica.com/news.media/dolphin4_oxygen-1.jpg
[08:28] <Roger_Klotz> what do i do with a shell script file
[08:30] <jason_> hi everyone
[08:31] <jason_> i need help with 8.10 i installed it and cant get it to boot up
[08:51] <hoonteke> hrm, what's the equivalent to gparted included on the kubuntu install disc?
[08:55]  * Daskreech shrugs
[08:55] <Daskreech> Qtparted?
[08:56] <Daskreech> JackWinter: tinyftp ?
[08:56] <Daskreech> !ftp
[08:56] <Daskreech> !ftpd
[08:56] <Daskreech> !gnome
[08:56] <hoonteke> Daskreech: hrm, not seeing qtparted with q<tab><tab>
[08:57] <Daskreech> hoonteke: Install gparted then?
[08:57] <hoonteke> I can do that on a livecd?
[08:57] <hoonteke> sure enough
[08:57] <hoonteke> cool
[08:58] <hoonteke> but ... what does ubiquity use then?
[08:59] <Daskreech> Probably the same thing the Gnome one does
[08:59] <JackWinter> i like gparted better.  seems to work better than qparted.
[08:59] <Daskreech> Qparted hasn't been worked on in years
[08:59] <Daskreech> Gparted hasn't been worked on in about a year I think
[08:59] <Daskreech> Would be nice for a Qt4 frontend toparted
[09:00] <JackWinter> Daskreech: think i'm gonna go with wsftpd.  tinyftp is only a client afaik
[09:00] <Daskreech> Which reminds me I should play with kgrubeditro
[09:00] <Daskreech> editor
[09:00] <Daskreech> !info tftpd
[09:01] <Daskreech> Server ^^^
[09:01] <Daskreech> hoonteke: You can install whatever you want on a live CD as long as you have RAM
[09:02] <hoonteke> yeap, just hadn't occurred to me.  thanks for the pointer
[09:02] <JackWinter> Daskreech: hehe, i made a reall small partition that contains /boot/grub.  in that one i edit the menu.lst.  that way i have a menu.lst that on installation touches and that i can edit like i want.  great for multiboot...
[09:02] <Daskreech> JackWinter: Nice :)
[09:04] <JackWinter> Daskreech: the /boot files reside on each os partition but /boot/grub contains grub and menu.lst.  very happy with this change.  now if there is a new kernel or i install another distro, i just copy the entry i want from menu.lst on the new install, and all is great... highly reccomended
[09:09] <powertool08> JackWinter: You might also want to look into /home on its own partition if you don't have it setup that way
[09:13] <Daskreech> I would hope if he's figured out a premanent /boot/grub then he has /home puzzled alreeady :)
[09:14] <powertool08> Most likely, but possibly not
[09:15] <Daskreech> I'd wager that playing with paritions that much would lead you to that conclusion or revelation in time with it likely to be sooner than later :)
[09:19] <JackWinter> powertool08 & Daskreech: yes indeed, the separate /home i had from the beginning.  the separate /boot/grub took longer and a lot of procrastrination (out of fear), but once I set it up i was real happy...!
[09:20] <Daskreech> JackWinter: Just need to script the management of it now :)
[09:20] <powertool08> JackWinter: Now you can put /lib on its own partition!
[09:20] <JackWinter> hehe, to the both of you :)
[09:21] <powertool08> JackWinter: what? I'm serious...
[09:22] <powertool08> nah, not really, but it would be awesomely random to put each folder on its own partition
[09:22] <Daskreech> You can't
[09:23] <Daskreech> some have to be married to /
[09:23] <JackWinter> don't really see the need/benefit for a separate /lib partition...
[09:23] <powertool08> meh, delete those for being difficult :P
[09:23] <powertool08> JackWinter: I was kidding
[09:24] <JackWinter> ok, i thought so :)
[09:24] <Daskreech> etc with it's own partiton would be assume :)
[09:24] <JackWinter> but separate /home and grub partitions are very nice....
[09:25] <powertool08> JackWinter: I agree, I've distro hopped on my lappy a few times recently but I still have all my stuff :D
[09:26] <roozbeh> hi guys
[09:26] <Daskreech> yo
[09:26] <roozbeh> how can i upgrade my kubuntu 8.10 beta to kubuntu 8.10 RC ?
[09:26] <powertool08> !hi | roozbeh
[09:27]  * powertool08 likes ubottu
[09:27] <Daskreech> roozbeh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:27] <roozbeh> thanks alot
[09:27] <powertool08> !botsnack
[09:28] <Daskreech> I love that :)
[09:29] <powertool08> !botsnack
[09:29] <powertool08> hmm...
[09:29] <Daskreech> Won't do the same factoid twice in a row
[09:30] <powertool08> IIRC there are several responses, I always get the Yum joke though
[09:30] <powertool08> oh...
[09:30] <powertool08> !hi
[09:30] <powertool08> !botsnack
[09:30] <Daskreech> To stop it flooding the chan when someone says Can someone help with my mp3s not working and 6 people say !mp3
[09:30] <powertool08> Well, maybe thats the only one now
[09:30] <Daskreech> powertool08: It is
[09:31] <powertool08> ahh, that is a good idea, I always hated those floods
[09:31] <Daskreech> Yeah
[09:34] <Daskreech> Welcome back
[09:42] <anpu> hi
[09:42] <powertool08> howdy
[09:43] <anpu> can somebody help me,i'm new to linux so i don't know how it's called but that line where u have system tray,k icon,etc. has dissapared
[09:43] <anpu> can somebody tell me how to get it back
[09:43] <powertool08> try alt+f2 kicker
[09:44] <anpu> nah
[09:44] <powertool08> anpu: ?
[09:45] <anpu> doesn't show anything can be launched
[09:46] <powertool08> anpu: Did it give an error?
[09:46] <anpu> no
[09:46] <powertool08> anpu: which version of kde do you have? 3 or 4?
[09:47] <anpu> after i finally fixed grub i loged in kubuntu and it worked fine,than i switched to win to put some music on my external hard and now i loged back in k and it dissapeard
[09:47] <anpu> 4
[09:48] <powertool08> hmm, I haven't really used 4 so I don't know if it has a different name
[09:49] <anpu> has that ever hapend to u?
[09:49] <powertool08> anpu: I use kde 3.5.10 and I just restart kicker, kde 4 is different, I don't like 4 and won't use it
[09:50] <powertool08> anpu: try this in konsole: kquitapp plasma
[09:50] <powertool08> rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma*
[09:50] <Daskreech> anpu: does alt+F2 work ?
[09:50] <anpu> yes
[09:50] <anpu> i mean it shows run
[09:50] <powertool08> plasma&
[09:50] <Daskreech> anpu: type plasma
[09:51] <Daskreech> powertool08: why don't you like it?
[09:51] <powertool08> anpu: its in this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=841310
[09:51] <powertool08> Daskreech: I'm not sure, too flashy I guess
[09:51] <Daskreech> powertool08: Eh?
[09:51] <Daskreech> Welcome back
[09:52] <Roger_Klotz> Guys i did it. I installed NDISWrapper from source sucessfully
[09:52] <Roger_Klotz> ty for the help skreech
[09:52] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: Grats :)
[09:52] <powertool08> Daskreech: and I don't really use alot of kde apps other than k3b so I don't need the DE, just a WM
[09:52] <Roger_Klotz> Now i just need to set up the options, kubuntu is recognizing my device finally :D
[09:52] <Daskreech> kwin4 is great :)
[09:53] <powertool08> Daskreech: I'm not a big fan of the widget style stuff,
[09:53] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: So wireless works?
[09:53] <Daskreech> powertool08: that's plasma
[09:53] <Daskreech> hi zhou
[09:53] <Roger_Klotz> restarting now. I have to set up the device parameters it looks like. Im gonna see what i can do with the network program, might have to go back to Terminal
[09:54] <powertool08> Daskreech: ya... my first thought was, this taskbar is huge... and I suppose I could change it so its not like that, but honestly I think my tweaking time could be better spent with xfce, openbox, or possibly a tiling manager
[09:54] <zhou> hi Daskreech
[09:55] <Roger_Klotz> kubuntu rules i cant wait to get on the repositories
[09:55] <zhou> 我第一次到这来
[09:55] <Roger_Klotz> does anyone else's grub loader display the correct distro or does it always say generic?
[09:55] <anpu> rm: cannot remove `/share/config/plasma': No such file or directory
[09:56] <zhou> Do you speak Chinese?
[09:56] <Daskreech> !cn
[09:56] <powertool08> anpu: did you put the $KDEHOME in there?
[09:56] <zhou> thanks
[09:56] <zhou> yes
[09:56] <Daskreech> Roger_Klotz: generic is the compter type not the distro
[09:57] <Daskreech> zhou: Welcome
[09:57] <Roger_Klotz> ahhh i see. and skreech it looks like kubuntu will be taking care of the rest of the work for me. 28% through activation stage: Configuring device
[09:57] <zhou> I'm first time use Kubuntu
[09:57] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma*
[09:57] <anpu> rm: cannot remove `/share/config/plasma*': No such file or directory
[09:57] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$
[09:58] <zhou> use ls cheek it
[09:58] <Daskreech> anpu: are you on hardy ?
[09:58] <powertool08> anpu: see if there is /home/anpu/.kde/share/config/plasma*
[09:59] <Daskreech> powertool08: wouldn't be unless he's on ibex
[09:59] <Daskreech> anpu: Can you tell me what lsb_release -a says ?
[09:59] <Daskreech> Hardy or Intrepid ?
[10:00] <anpu> don't know
[10:00] <zhou> hardy
[10:00] <anpu> and isb says nothing
[10:00] <Daskreech> not isb
[10:00] <Daskreech> L
[10:00] <Daskreech> lower case
[10:00] <Daskreech> lsb_relase -a
[10:00] <Daskreech> lsb_release -a
[10:01] <anpu> nothing
[10:01] <Daskreech> cat /etc/issue
[10:01] <anpu> > isb_release -a
[10:01] <anpu> > isb_release-a
[10:01] <anpu> > lsb_release -a
[10:01] <anpu> > lsb_release-a
[10:01] <anpu> > lsb_relase -a
[10:01] <anpu> > lsb_relase-a
[10:01] <anpu> >
[10:02] <Daskreech> anpu: third one and paste it in the terminal
[10:02] <Daskreech> Does the terminal have that >  ?
[10:02] <anpu> that was from my terminal
[10:02] <Daskreech> instead of $ ?
[10:02] <anpu> yes
[10:02] <Daskreech> press ctrl+d
[10:02] <Daskreech> You should get $ back
[10:03] <anpu> it's back
[10:03] <Daskreech> ok
[10:03] <Daskreech> lsb_release -a
[10:03] <anpu> No LSB modules are available.
[10:03] <anpu> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:03] <anpu> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[10:03] <anpu> Release:        8.04
[10:03] <anpu> Codename:       hardy
[10:04] <Daskreech> anpu: rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc
[10:07] <anpu> i typed that and it said nothing
[10:07] <anpu> than i typed it again and it said
[10:07] <anpu> rm: cannot remove `/home/anpu/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc': No such file or dire               ctory
[10:07] <anpu> so i typed plasma and it said
[10:07] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ plasma
[10:07] <anpu> <unknown program name>(7062)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x8061e80 31457281
[10:07] <anpu> <unknown program name>(7062)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x805b298
[10:07] <anpu> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[10:07] <anpu>   Extension:    154 (RENDER)
[10:07] <anpu>   Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture)
[10:07] <anpu>   Resource id:  0x50
[10:07] <anpu> plasma(7063) PlasmaApp::PlasmaApp: Setting the pixmap cache size to 20754 kilobytes
[10:07] <zhou> I more like kde than gdk
[10:07] <anpu> plasma(7063) Plasma::Corona::addContainment: loading of containment "" failed.
[10:07] <anpu> plasma(7063) Plasma::LayoutItem::setLayout: layout removed from under us. expect crashes
[10:07] <anpu> plasma(7063) RootWidget::screenOwnerChanged: was, is, containment: -1 0 DefaultDesktop(0x823e9e0)
[10:07] <anpu> plasma(7063) DefaultDesktop::updateBackground: Setting wallpaper to default "/usr/lib/kde4/share/wallpapers/EOS/contents/images/1280x800.jpg"
[10:08] <anpu> plasma(7063) PlasmaApp::createView: Containment name: "Unknown Applet" | type 2 | screen: -1 | geometry: QRectF(0,0 205x47) | zValue: 100
[10:08] <anpu> plasma(7063) KMimeTypeFactory::parseMagic: Now parsing  "/usr/share/mime/magic"
[10:08] <anpu> plasma(7063) PlasmaApp::createView: Containment name: "Desktop" | type 0 | screen: 0 | geometry: QRectF(0,0 1280x800) | zValue: 100
[10:08] <anpu> and i still don have it
[10:08] <Daskreech> zhou: :0
[10:08] <Daskreech> ;-)
[10:09] <Daskreech> anpu: Don't paste more than three lines in here
[10:09] <anpu> ok
[10:09] <Daskreech> use the pastebin
[10:09] <Daskreech> !paste
[10:09] <powertool08> Where was the floodbot on that one?
[10:09] <Daskreech> anpu: Do you have a background ?
[10:09]  * Daskreech shrugs
[10:09] <anpu> i have a wallpaper and opera instalation
[10:10] <Daskreech> Do you get a right click menu?
[10:10] <amerigo> !windows
[10:10] <mefisto__> I want to set the master channel in kmix (for muting kbd global shortcuts, etc) but my soundcard mixer uses 2 channels, not one single master. can I set kmix to treat both channels as master?
[10:11] <anpu> yeah i have run command,add wigets...
[10:14] <Daskreech> harumph
[10:14] <anpu> got an idea what's wrong with it?
[10:14] <Daskreech> anpu: can you press alt+F2 and run kate .kde4/share/config/plasmarc for me
[10:14] <Daskreech> anpu: Some
[10:15] <anpu> An error occurred while loading http://kde4/share/config/plasmarc:
[10:15] <anpu> Unknown host kde4: Unknown error
[10:18] <anpu> sry didn't see kate
[10:19] <anpu> the file /home/anpu/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc could not be loaded,as it was not possible to read from it
[10:19] <anpu> check if you have read access of this file
[10:19] <zhou> I'd to go to supper
[10:19] <zhou> bye
[10:19] <anpu> bye
[10:21] <anpu> daskreech
[10:22] <Daskreech> bye
[10:22] <Daskreech> errrm
[10:22] <anpu> help
[10:22] <Daskreech> anpu: you have a terminal open ?
[10:22] <anpu> yes
[10:22] <Daskreech> ls -l ~/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc
[10:23] <aman> how do i change keyboard layout, my forward slash key is not working for konsole
[10:24] <anpu> ls: cannot access /home/anpu/.kde4/share/config/plasmarc: No such file or directory
[10:24] <aman> anpu: what are you trying to do , use gedit
[10:25] <Daskreech> anpu: ls ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> aman: make sure you are using the right kb layout
[10:26] <anpu> it said /home/anpu/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[10:27] <aman> ActionParsnip: thats what i am trying to do. i need to change keyboard layout to ùs and i cannot access xorg.conf file
[10:27] <Daskreech> anpu: argh :-)
[10:27] <Daskreech> anpu: kquitapp plasma && plasma
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> !keyboard
[10:27] <aman> ActionParsnip: do me a favor, type command here since my slash doesnt work , i will paste it
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> command?
[10:28] <aman> sudo gedit slash etc slash x11 slash xorg.conf
[10:29] <anpu> pastebin
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ahh i see
[10:29] <Daskreech> aman: does tab work ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> aman: you dont sudo gedit
[10:29] <Daskreech> !paste
[10:29] <powertool08> aman: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <Daskreech> when you finish give us back the URL
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> aman: youo kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <anpu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61896/plain/
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> aman: you dont use sudo for gui apps like gedit or kate, you can break permissions and ownerships
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> aman: you need gksudo for gnome and kdesudo for kde to run gui apps
[10:30] <aman> ActionParsnip: I thank you very much
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> np man
[10:31] <aman> ActionParsnip: :)
[10:32] <Daskreech> anpu: hmmm
[10:32] <Daskreech> anpu: can you try logging out and back in? Looks like dbus or something isn't speaking correctly
[10:33] <anpu> ok
[10:33] <anpu> lol
[10:33] <anpu> now i don't have a wallpaper
[10:33] <anpu> and i can't right click
[10:33] <amerigo> !paste
[10:34] <Daskreech> anpu: no terminal ?
[10:34] <anpu> btw i did try that couple of times  before i came here
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> anpu: are you running compiz per chance?
[10:34] <anpu> running what?
[10:34] <anpu> i have my old terminal
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> anpu: cube desktop, wobly windows. that sort of garbage
[10:35] <anpu> i didn't install anything
[10:35] <anpu> i have that wavy wallpaper
[10:35] <Daskreech> ok press up to get back the ls ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*
[10:40] <Assurbanipal> hi there!how can i make openoffice use kde4 colors?
[10:40] <aman> anpu: press ctl+esc
[10:40] <anpu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61899/plain/
[10:41] <anpu> ok aman
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> anpu: id reboot
[10:41] <anpu> w8
[10:41] <anpu> it asks me now display all 1805 possibilities (y or n)
[10:42] <anpu> what should i answer?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> anpu: id say no or your screen is gonna go crazy for a second
[10:42] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ id reboot
[10:42] <anpu> id: reboot: No such user
[10:42] <anpu> lol
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> anpu: sudo shutdown -r now
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> anpu: maybe it'll be nicer afetr a reboot
[10:47] <anpu> now again i have wallpaper,opera instalation icon and rigt click but still no kicker
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> anpu: add a symbolic link to it in kde autostart
[10:48] <anpu> ?
[10:49] <anpu> i don't understand u
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> kicker is a program like any other
[10:49] <anpu> ok
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> you can add a symbolic link in the default kde startup folder  so it will be run
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> anpu: are you on kde4 or kde3?
[10:49] <anpu> 4
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ok then try this
[10:50] <anpu> sry my first day on linux
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> can you give me the output of: which kicker
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> anpu: no worries dude we all start somday
[10:51] <anpu> what do i type in konsole?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> which kicker
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> i need the output ( I use kde but not kwin or kicker )
[10:51] <anpu> says nothing
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> then its not installed
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install kicker
[10:52] <anpu> tnx
[10:52] <anpu> it's downloading now
[10:52] <anpu> but i had it before
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> anpu: well you dont have it now and thats what matters
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> ok give a reboot when its in, if it doesnt autorun then we'll make it
[10:53] <anpu> ok
[10:53] <mefisto__> is kicker part of kde4? I thought it used something else
[10:53] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I think anpu is wanting the plasma taskbar of kde4, I don't think kicker made it to kde4
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> mefisto__: i thought it used its own fancy thing. I dont know. I use fluxox
[10:54] <anpu> will i need to fix things like this all the time?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: you can run kicker in kde4, just looks weird
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> anpu: depends how you use your system
[10:54] <anpu> when i type plasma it says  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/plasma
[10:55] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: ya, but anpu said it was there before and not now, so they probably want what was there (plasma) not what could be there (kicker)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: hmm, good point, we can always remove kicker
[10:55] <powertool08> Although I think kicker > plasma
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> i dont use either
[10:56] <mefisto__> anpu: have you asked in #kubuntu-kde4 ??
[10:56] <anpu> i don't know what it was it had k logo instead of windows logo and a tray
[10:56] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I use kicker with kde 3.5.10 until I upgrade again, then i'll be ditching kde most likely
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> anpu: wait a sec
[10:56] <anpu> why?
[10:56] <Riddell> (RC out)
[10:57] <bolsista> olá
[10:57] <bolsista> tudo bem com vocês?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> anpu: run this mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc  ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc_old
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> anpu: from the mv command
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> mv ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc  ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc_old
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ^ thats the command
[10:58] <mrbig4545> hey guys
[10:58] <mrbig4545> im on hardy, and i want konquoer back the way it should be
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> anpu: kicker is a kde3 thing. Is the bar you are missing black and glossy?
[10:59] <powertool08> mrbig4545: whats the way it should be?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> mrbig4545: is there a folder in your home dir named .konqueror ?
[10:59] <mrbig4545> the profile that is, so i'vetried some stuff off the internet that wants to cp the original profiles back, but they dont exist
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> mrbig4545: cd ~/; ls -a
[10:59] <mrbig4545> ActionParsnip: No I don't have a .konqueror  folder
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> mrbig4545: hmm
[10:59] <bolsista> alguém do Brasil??
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !br | bolsista
[11:00] <anpu> no it was blue i think
[11:00] <anpu> pastebin
[11:00] <mrbig4545> powertool08: the way it should be is the default kde way, with the kubuntu profiles gone
[11:00] <anpu> !pastebin
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !paste > anpu
[11:00] <bolsista> pk
[11:00] <bolsista> sorry
[11:00] <bolsista> ok
[11:00] <bolsista> :)
[11:01] <mrbig4545> http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/Information/KonquerorProfiles i tried that guide
[11:01] <mrbig4545> but it no work :(
[11:01] <mrbig4545> for a start i dont have this folder, /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile
[11:02] <mrbig4545> but i do have a /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile which is strange
[11:03] <anpu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61908/plain/
[11:04] <zerothis> I installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> anpu: this is the command you need
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> anpu: mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc_old
[11:05] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[11:05] <anpu> mv: missing destination file operand after `/home/anpu/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc'
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> anpu: you arent copying the whole command
[11:06] <powertool08> mrbig4545: if you're on kde4 then the folder difference is normal
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> anpu: im not typing it twice by accident
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> anpu: copy the ENTIRE line
[11:06] <anpu> aah ok so that whole thing is one coman?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> anpu: yes, or i wouldnt type it would i (?)
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> anpu: its all one command
[11:07] <mrbig4545> powertool08: im not on kde4 though, thats why its strange
[11:07] <powertool08> mrbig4545: oh... ever had kde4 installed?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ive had it, hated it
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> well the apps are fine, kwin4 is nasty
[11:08] <powertool08> as did I, but I only used it in virtualbox with a live cd image so i probably didn't get the best impression
[11:08] <mrbig4545> powertool08: dont think so, it was originally ubuntu fiest, so i did the upgrade to hardy, then installed kubuntu-desktop or whaterver it is
[11:08] <mrbig4545> should just be kde-3.5
[11:09] <powertool08> mrbig4545: that is odd
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> are all programs now kde4 friendly?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> or is kde3.5 still needed for some
[11:09] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I'd assume they are since its out of the RC stages
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> makes sense
[11:10] <anpu> nah it stil says thesame
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> anpu: its something about that file
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> anpu: i think a reboot may finish it, renaming that file is what people have said
[11:11] <powertool08> anpu: the move command is in the format mv_</path/to/file>_</new/path/to/file> where the underscores are spaces
[11:11] <aman> need to change gnome display manager to kde display manager, ? how?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> anpu: try: sudo / find -name plasma-appletsrc
[11:12] <ubuntoil> Hi, does anyone tried to compile vlc 0.9.4 ??
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> aman: log out, change session type, log in
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !info vlc
[11:12] <powertool08> ubuntoil: vlc is in the repo's sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install vlc
[11:12] <ubuntoil> powertool08: repo = 0.8.6....I want the 0.9.4
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoil: does 0.8.6 not work ok for you?
[11:13] <ubuntoil> ActionParsnip: well I get a strange error when I try to compile
[11:13] <dude> guys, need some help regarding screen resolution under kubuntu
[11:13] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ sudo / find -name plasma-appletsrc
[11:13] <anpu> [sudo] password for anpu:
[11:13] <anpu> sudo: /: command not found
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> oops
[11:13] <ubuntoil> !pastebin
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> sudo find /
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> anpu: switch those around
[11:14] <powertool08> aman: edit this file to change which display manager starts at boot /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:14] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ sudo find /-name plasma-appletsrc
[11:14] <anpu> find: /-name: No such file or directory
[11:14] <anpu> find: plasma-appletsrc: No such file or directory
[11:14] <ubuntoil> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/61913/
[11:14] <aman> ActionParsnip: i need to change logon screen and i am unable to do that by login manager, i  mean i am getting ubuntu logon screen to change session, i want kubuntu logon screen to change sessions
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> anpu: use the first find command and swap the / and find commands
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> aman: oh you want to switch from kdm to gdm?
[11:15] <powertool08> aman: see my previous comment ^
[11:15] <dude> guys, need some help regarding screen resolution under kubuntu, i can't get it to high resolution, stuck in 800x640
[11:16] <ubuntoil> for the configure part I launched: sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr
[11:16] <aman> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:16] <anpu> didn't i do it ok? it said find: plasma-appletsrc: No such file or directory
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoil: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=43276&p=135727
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoil: simple websearch mlad
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> aman: sudo find / -name plasma-appletsrc
[11:17] <Roger_Klotz> i have another question for you guys: ndiswrapper is working perfectly for me, double the download speeds i was getting in vista! now im setting up my sound and video, and the nvidia drivers are .run shell scripts. what do i do with a shell script? ive tried copying them to terminal and terminal in python mode but im getting no result.
[11:17] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: ./script.run
[11:18] <anpu> sudo find / -name plasma-apletsrc
[11:18] <anpu> ups
[11:18] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: you probably need a sudo on there
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: you need alt+f2 to kill x server, chmod +x <file name> then run it with ./<filename>
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: you will need sudo
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: most can be installed from repos though unless your card is super fancy
[11:18] <aman> powertool08: thank you very much, it says gdm there, so kde display manager is suppose to be kdm right?
[11:18] <powertool08> aman: yes
[11:19] <aman> ActionParsnip: appreciate it
[11:19] <Roger_Klotz> its an 8800gts and im not seeing similar ones on the repos
[11:19] <anpu> now it doesn't say anything
[11:19] <aman> powertool08: appreciate it
[11:19] <powertool08> aman: np
[11:19] <Roger_Klotz> by repos you guys mean the adept program manager?
[11:19] <aman> ")
[11:19] <dude> guys, need some help regarding screen resolution under kubuntu, i can't get it to high resolution, stuck in 800x640
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: envyng-qt is pretty sweet too
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dude: whats your graphics card?
[11:20] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: I use the command line with sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude <package> but its all the same
[11:20] <dude> action: nvidia 7300 LE
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> dude: use tab to autocomplete names
[11:20] <dude> ok, tnx
[11:21] <dude> ActionParsnip: nvidia 7300 LE
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> dude: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32322
[11:21] <Roger_Klotz> actionparsnip:
[11:21] <Roger_Klotz> oops
[11:21] <Roger_Klotz> nvm
[11:22] <Roger_Klotz> works though
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: what does?
[11:22] <Roger_Klotz> the apt-get you told me to use
[11:22] <Roger_Klotz> ty
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: np :D
[11:22] <anpu> ActionParsnip: dude with your it says nothing
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> anpu: ok then there is no file
[11:24] <Roger_Klotz> you guys i love kubuntu now
[11:24] <Roger_Klotz> xubuntu was too much for me or something
[11:24] <anpu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/61917/plain
[11:24] <anpu> ages:
[11:24] <anpu>   kicker-applets menu
[11:24] <anpu> The following NEW packages will be install
[11:24] <rogan> .
[11:25] <dude> anpu: what?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> anpu: kquitapp plasma; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc; plasma
[11:25] <anpu> what do i do now?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> my ask.com once again kicks googles ass
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> BAM
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> anpu: better?
[11:27] <anpu> everything works except
[11:27] <anpu> anpu@Anubis:~$ $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[11:27] <anpu> bash: /share/config/plasma-appletsrc: No such file or directory
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ok, is plasma running ok?
[11:27] <anpu> no
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> do you get any errors when yu run plasma?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> on its own from terminal?
[11:28] <anpu> it had no down thingy and i typed in kicker and it started but it doesn't look like i had before
[11:28] <anpu> w8 i'll type plasma again
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> kool
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> anpu: do you have a bar at the bottom now?
[11:29] <dude> ActionParsnip: system? then administration?
[11:29] <anpu> i have since i typed kicker but it's not like it was before
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> dude: i think thats in gnome
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> anpu: then redesign it. Is it the same shape and all the stuff familiar?
[11:30] <dude> ActionParsnip: :) im using kubuntu
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> dude: id look into envyng-qt
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> dude: sudo apt-get -y install envyng-qt; kdesudo envyng-qt
[11:30] <anpu> nah it's completley diferent than it was before now it has 3 buttons instead of 1 (counting desktop acces)
[11:31] <anpu> it's kinda better but uglier XD
[11:31] <anpu> it has quick bar
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> anpu: so it is plasma you're after
[11:31] <Roger_Klotz> i have a question about plasma
[11:31] <anpu> can i make kicker look diferent?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ive no idea about plasma but ive got websearching skills
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> anpu: i believe so
[11:32] <Roger_Klotz> in the latest stable kubuntu release i cant find the setting to make a top panel and a bottom, only 1
[11:32] <powertool08> anpu: you can make it varying shades of opacity, change the color, add/remove quicklaunch icons etc
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> anpu: i'd jump into #kubuntu-kde4
[11:32] <anpu> hmm when i click configure panel arragment hiding and menus show the specified library kicker could not be found
[11:32] <dude> ActionParsnip: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:33] <dude> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> dude: do you have synaptic open or are you doing any updates?
[11:33] <anpu> the diagnostics is:
[11:33] <dude> ActionParsnip: ya, im sorry
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[11:34] <anpu> library files for "kcm_kicker.la_ not found in paths
[11:35] <anpu> ActionParsnip: can u help me fix it?
[11:35] <ubuntu__> ciao a tutti
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> anpu: i think you are after plasma. did it look like the bottom bar on picture 1: http://www.kubuntu.org/system/files/kde4.jpeg or picture 2: http://dt.in.th/images/jtaesr-kde-kicker-windows.png
[11:37] <Roger_Klotz> how do i move buttons on the panels? they get stuck in spots a lot
[11:37] <ubuntoil> ActionParsnip: than you
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoil: ?
[11:38] <amerigo> !windows
[11:38] <anpu> 1.
[11:38] <ubuntoil> ActionParsnip: I succed in compilimg vlc 0.9.4 thanks to the post
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> ubuntoil: nice one. google/ask.com is you friend
[11:39] <Roger_Klotz> would any of you guys happen to know a repo that has xfi drivers
[11:39] <Roger_Klotz> xtreme music
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: can you give us the line from lspci that is the sound card
[11:39] <giuseppe_> salve
[11:39] <dude> ActionParsnip: thank you so much...
[11:40] <giuseppe_> 1list
[11:40] <giuseppe_> !list
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> dude: all better?
[11:40] <Roger_Klotz> 01:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> oh boy another one of those
[11:41] <avihayb> Hello. I had a little package dependency issue. I have some programs (amrok, kaffein, Juk) that depend on libxine-ffmpeg1 to play most types of media that I have. but I couldn't install it, since it has a '=' dependency to libxine1 version x.xx.x-xubuntu3, and I had version x.xx.x-xubuntu3.1
[11:41] <dude> ActionParsnip: yes, can i use the effects?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> dude: if you saw an nvidia logo when yuo booted yes
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> dude: a word of warning though
[11:42] <avihayb> forceing libxine to the older version (from u3.1 to u3) forced me to uninstall some programs in an ugly way
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> dude: the drivers are for your current kernel, if you upgrade your kernel you will have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf BACK to the nv driver so you can get an X server, you will then have to RERUN that app to get the driver installed for the new kernel
[11:43] <plustek> anybody from bulgaria
[11:43] <avihayb> now, everything works, but synaptic/adapt wants me to reupgrade the "offending" packages
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> dude: if you dont modify the file you will not get an x server and have to drop to command line only to edit xorg.conf from there
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> dude: otherwise envyng is AWESOME
[11:44] <avihayb> lies!
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3468892
[11:44] <Roger_Klotz> ty
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: creative are dumb, they dont even support windows properly. some guy tried to code his own drivers and nearly got sued
[11:44] <avihayb> !envyng
[11:45] <dude> ActionParsnip: :) that's deep, im not familiar with those configuration
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> dude: its a simple text file
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> dude: all you do is find the line Driver "nvidia" and change it to Driver "nv"
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> dude: then do the recommended reboot
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> dude: i'd love envyng to be officially supported but its not and its really annoying
[11:48] <dude> ActionParsnip: i found that line, driver 'nvidia'
[11:48] <blip-> hi all,  my laptop brightness buttons (Fn-ArrowKey) work in KDE, but do not work if i login to openbox or fluxbox.    Any idea how i can find out what service/program is handling this in KDE so that I can start it up while in *box ?    Thanks
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> dude: yeah, leave it for now. when you do a kernel update, you will need to change that to nv
[11:49] <anpu> cya and tnx for help
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> blip-: you may need to configure the hotkey in fluxbox. I thought that was all hadware
[11:50] <dude> ActionParsnip: so you mean to say i cannot use compiz?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> dude: did you see the nvidia logo before you logged in?
[11:50] <blip-> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:51] <dude> ActionParsnip: i will reboot my system, thanks
[11:54] <dude> ActionParsnip: i didn't see it
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> hmmm try: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> whats the output
[11:58] <dude> ActionParsnip: YES is the output
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> then it should be ok
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> type glxgears in konsole
[11:59] <eukaryote> Hello All. I recently moved to Hardy (pre-installed on a new machine) and am missing expected functions. How do you make USB devices auto-mount?
[11:59] <dude> ActionParsnip: -info                   display OpenGL renderer info
[12:00] <tinason> i installed kubuntu beta 1 a week ago. what do i do to upgrade to rc1?
[12:00] <tinason> (if anything)
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> eukaryote: you can add an entry in /etc/fstab
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | eukaryote
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> dude: do you see the gears whizzing round?
[12:01] <dude> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> dude: ok, press ctrl+c in konsol
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> how many fps do you get (it should be high)
[12:01] <eukaryote> ActionParsnip: I tried that, but what I want is to auomount any arbitrary key, MP3 player or whatever. Feisty just did it, for example.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> like thousands
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> eukaryote: i dont use automount personally, i dont like automatic stuff
[12:02] <dude> ActionParsnip: 5933 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1186.480 FPS /  5593 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1118.600 FPS
[12:02] <tinason> does anyone know?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> eukaryote: if you add a line in fstab for it it will automount, try asking in #ubuntu, its essentially the same OS
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> dude: looks fine, compiz away
[12:03] <dude> ActionParsnip: ther's an error
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ?
[12:03] <dude> ActionParsnip: XIO:  fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server ":0.0" after 449 requests (449 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[12:04] <dude> ActionParsnip: is that major?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> is that after glxgears?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> looks like the result of control + c so i wouldnt sweat it
[12:05] <dude> ActionParsnip: it seems ok
[12:05] <dude> :)
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> dude: should be fine
[12:05] <dude> ActionParsnip: to compiz :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> dude: its your system. i hate compiz
[12:06] <tinason> did anyone upgrade to rc1?
[12:06] <dude> ActionParsnip: why?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> i think its worthless
[12:06] <dude> tinason: me
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> i hit minimise and i want it gone, not to do a little dance
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> just slows productivity in the name of gloss
[12:07] <tinason> dude:  did you upgrade from beta1?
[12:07] <dude> ActionParsnip: hmmm...
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> i use fluxbox, dude
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> dude: nice and minimal and snappy. but some people love compiz
[12:07] <dude> tinason: from 8.04
[12:08] <dude> ActionParsnip: flubox?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> gimme a sec, i'll get you my desktop screen sot
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> *shot
[12:09] <tinason> did anyone upgrade to 8.10 rc1 from 8.10 beta 4?
[12:09] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: ever talk to snuxoll? He's always in -offtopic. He uses a very minimal compiz setup, no cube, fancy minimize animations, can't remember which window manager though
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> compiz is a window manager
[12:10] <powertool08> ah yes... i forgot that
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[12:10] <powertool08> anyway, he has it toned way down and only uses a few things in it
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> dude: mines like this but i dont have wallpaper
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> dude: http://www.tuxmachines.org/gallery/d/3893-2/fluxbox.jpg
[12:11] <yorkensen> Hi
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> dude: menu for apps is on right click dekstop
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> dude: i use yakuake for command line for file management
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !hi | yorkensen
[12:12] <yorkensen> May I raise a question? For some reason I can not mount either CDROM or disk partitions anymore
[12:12] <dude> ActionParsnip: cool...simple
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: are you a sudoer?
[12:13] <yorkensen> I get the error message 'Feature only available with HAL'
[12:13] <yorkensen> yes I am
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> let me investigate
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: dpkg -l | grep -i hal
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: you got hal installed?
[12:14] <dude> ActionParsnip: what is the comand line to download compiz?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> and libhal-storage1
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> dude: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade; firefox http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml &
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: do you have hal packages installed
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> dude: basically you need this:
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> dude: sudo apt-get -y install compiz compiz-kde compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[12:16] <dude> ActionParsnip: is there a internet explorer for kubuntu :)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dude: you can run 5.5 via wine
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !wineapps
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !wineapp
[12:17] <dude> ActionParsnip: can i install xp under kubuntu
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dude: if you go to www.winehq.org
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dude: you can run vmware or virtualbox
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dude: you cant play games in them though
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> if you have dual core cpu then definately use vmware
[12:20] <dude> ActionParsnip: yes i have, what can you about opera browser
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !opera
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> opera is cool
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install opera
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> synaptic is way too slow for my liking
[12:21] <dude> ActionParsnip: E: Package libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig has no installation candidate
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> dude: ok pull that out of the list
[12:22] <dude> ActionParsnip: what do u min?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> dude: delete the word libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig from the list of packages you are trying to apt-get
[12:23] <yorkensen> sorry for the delay
[12:23] <yorkensen> yes, actually hal is up and running
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> dude: press up on keyoard then use cursors and backspace to delete it
[12:23] <yorkensen> even restarted hal just in case
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: is it ok after a reboot?
[12:23] <yorkensen> it was not after the last one
[12:23] <dude> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: what command are you giving to gte the error
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: can yo give a pastebin of the command and error together
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> !paste > yorkensen
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> dude: better?
[12:26] <yorkensen> I get the error in many different ways
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: just one will do
[12:27] <yorkensen> just right click on the CDROM icon of the desktop and select mount
[12:27] <yorkensen> I get the error
[12:28] <dude> ActionParsnip: yes...cool
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: hmm, ok have you tried manually mounting at command line/
[12:29] <dude> ActionParsnip: all i need is run xp under kubuntu
[12:29] <yorkensen> not right now
[12:29] <yorkensen> should I try
[12:30] <Briareos1> can one tell me a tool that allows multiple editors of a document to work concurrently and immediately seeing the changes another one makes (for example to concurrently write a book)?
[12:30] <KRF> Briareos1, theres a gnome app. google docs also allows this
[12:31] <KRF> but the gnome app is very broken afair
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> dude: grab virtualbox
[12:31] <Briareos1> KRF hmm anything else? i'd prefer a kde or gnome application yes
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: yeah as it will give you more output if it fails
[12:33] <dude> ActionParsnip: how to download virtualbox
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: http://www.fsdaily.com/EndUser/Tip_Easily_Enable_Syntax_Highlighting_in_Nano_Editor/related_links
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> dude: guess
[12:33] <dude> ActionParsnip: :)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> dude: you've been installing stuff all this time. i figured you could gues
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> still want me to tell you?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> dude: im just trying to get you comfortable with the system so you can get more autonymous
[12:36] <dude> ActionParsnip: im just excited, sorry :)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hehe np
[12:37] <tinason> anyone here upgrade from beta 1 to rc 1?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> you also need to add you to the vboxusers group
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> dude: usermod -G vboxusers <your user name here>
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> dude: but do that after installing virtualbox
[12:38] <dude> ActionParsnip: ok, i will, thanks
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> dude: you will ALSO need to get the virtualbox-ose-modules that matches your kernel version
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> dude: you need to run uname -r
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> dude: then sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> for example
[12:40] <dude> ActionParsnip: installation complete
[12:41] <yorkensen> It seems that manually works fine
[12:41] <yorkensen> I've been able to mount the CDROM
[12:42] <dude> ActionParsnip: E: Couldn't find package virtualbox-ose-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: cool
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dude: are you running the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel?
[12:43] <yorkensen> but now, whay the automount does not work?
[12:43] <yorkensen> let me check the kernel #
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: not sure man. weird
[12:43] <dude> ActionParsnip: 2.6.27-7-generic
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dude: are you on intrepid?
[12:43] <yorkensen> yes, I am
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: are you on intrepid?
[12:44] <yorkensen> sorry, I answered the wrong question
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: are you using intrepid ibex?
[12:45]  * SkEmO goes to sleep, nite! und guten tag für alles!
[12:45] <yorkensen> no
[12:45] <yorkensen> kubuntu
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: intrepid ibex is a name of a release of kubuntu
[12:45] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: When I run aptitude upgrade some packages are held back, others automatically held back. How do I upgrade these?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: lsb_release -a | grep -i code
[12:46] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: whats it say
[12:46] <yorkensen> Sorry about that!
[12:46] <yorkensen> looks I'm in hardy
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> good
[12:47] <dude> ActionParsnip: 2.6.27-7-generic
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> dude: try running virtualbox from the k menu, see if it crys
[12:47] <yorkensen> intrepid is the name of the next release! sorry!
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: yep and jackalope after that
[12:48] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: was there a net split or something
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: I didnt see the usual wave
[12:48] <dude> ActionParsnip: ya, it's running
[12:49] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: seems like i was only one then lol
[12:49] <yorkensen> ActionParsnip: Next time I'll remember even the future names
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !register . eagles0513875
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !register > eagles0513875
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> dude: sweet
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: haha, its not necessary really
[12:52] <dude> ActionParsnip: can i use my existing xp sytem in virtual box
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> dude: no, you must make a hard drive image and reinstall to that
[12:54] <dude> ActionParsnip: another installation? :) ok thanks
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> dude: yep, you create a hard drive image in ~/.virtualbox
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> and it gets installed to using your xp cd
[12:55] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: my nick is already registerd im wanting to register a new irc channel
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: register a new irc channel?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: just join the channel and it will be spawned
[12:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: or what ever u have to do to start an irc channel and it appear in the channel  list
[12:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: will it appear in the list of all freenode channels?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: yep
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> try it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> you must sit in it though as the channel dies with no users
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> so you can make a channel named ANYTHING
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> and you'd be the admin too :)
[12:57] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: gotcha
[13:00] <chiller> hey
[13:00] <yorkensen> Sorry ActionParsnit, you know whay it could be that automount does not work anymore?
[13:01] <yorkensen> (sorry I mistyped your name)
[13:01] <Pici> !tab
[13:02] <chiller> kennt sich einer aus will icq instalieren abr mit linux schwierig
[13:02] <powertool08> !de
[13:02] <dude> ActionParsnip: :) nice
[13:02] <yorkensen> ubottu: thanks for the info, I was not awared of this at IRC
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: no idea man, its not someting i use so im not the best person to ask
[13:04] <yorkensen> thanks so much anyway
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: try in #ubuntu
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: can i see your /etc/fstab file
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !paste | yorkensen
[13:06] <berkes> any .desktop servicemenu-guru's around?
[13:07] <berkes> I like to make a servicemenu for kdesvn, but I want it to only appear if the current dir contains a .svn dir
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> berkes: i had a go ages ago and nearly drove myself crazy after it went horribly wrong
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> berkes: try later and try #ubuntu too
[13:08] <berkes> this should follow the same method as e.g. a smart "open this in imageviewer an action only to appear when there are actual images found.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> berkes: i thought it only applied to right clicking on files?
[13:09] <berkes> dolphin shows action-menus in a sidebar
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> i see
[13:09] <berkes> but it uses the exact same .desktop for that, ActionParsnip
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> cool
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> berkes: i use cli for file management, its quicker
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> to me
[13:13] <berkes> ActionParsnip: it often is, but with properly configured .desktops, I foundt klikketyklik to be slightly faster. esp. since dolphin gives most/all the power of the CLI too. a little hidden away, but its there.
[13:15] <yorkensen> ActionParsnip: I got it. There was an error in the fstab
[13:15] <yorkensen> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> yorkensen: thought as much
[13:18] <Roger_Klotz> i found
[13:18] <Roger_Klotz> damn
[13:19] <Roger_Klotz> I have an xfi driver and it tells me to install-sh as root. Im using sudo bash to become root, but its telling me "command not found"
[13:20] <Roger_Klotz> the line is "bash: install-sh: command not found"
[13:21] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: install-sh is most likely a script, make sure its executable, if not chmod +x install-sh then either $sudo sh install-sh or $sudo ./install-sh
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: sudo ./<name>
[13:24] <Roger_Klotz> it says to run ./configure first i guess, and thats giving me an error. "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[13:24] <Roger_Klotz> sudo ./configure
[13:25] <Roger_Klotz> ?
[13:27] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: no
[13:27] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: never use sudo before ./configure. what are you compiling anyway? (sorry, just joined)
[13:28] <Roger_Klotz> its the sound blaster x-fi drivers. they say 1. run configure script 2. run make 3. run make install
[13:29] <Roger_Klotz> and im stuck at step 1 from this C compiler error
[13:29] <LjL> i know what the solution is for that
[13:29] <LjL> however, have you made very sure that ubuntu actually doesn't include x-fi drivers by default?
[13:29] <LjL> if it does, it would be very much preferrable to try and fix any problem that those may have
[13:30] <Roger_Klotz> its not detecting my xfi anywhere but in terminal
[13:30] <Roger_Klotz> also these are official creative drivers for linux so im guessing this is the easiest way to get it working
[13:30] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: ok, yes, google confirms to me that ALSA support for the x-fi is very experimental
[13:31] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: no, that's a common misconception that often causes serious problems. the fact that the drivers come from the manifacturer *doesn't* mean that they'll work better than any drivers included with ubuntu
[13:31] <LjL> actually, they may work worse and cause serious issues, because "Linux" isn't a single operating system, yet they provide "Linux" drivers
[13:31] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: anyway, in this specific case, there's probably no other solution
[13:31] <Roger_Klotz> LjL: im just having trouble installing though i think
[13:31] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: so, type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[13:31] <Roger_Klotz> ok
[13:32] <LjL> then run ./configure again
[13:34] <Roger_Klotz> LjL: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[13:34] <LjL> Roger_Klotz: read what i typed again
[13:34] <Roger_Klotz> :D
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: its singular
[13:35] <Roger_Klotz> ty
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: use tab completion for package names as well as irc nicks ;)
[13:36] <seele> i'm having a weird network issue with the intrepid rc
[13:36] <seele> i can connect to an access point, start a connection, but then it dies
[13:36] <seele> e.g. i can hit the google homepage, but then i times out on the search
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | seele
[13:37] <seele> ActionParsnip: yes, no kidding.  i just don't know what information i need for a bug report
[13:37] <seele> i dont know if it is networkmanager or the driver, etc.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> you could run firefox from command line with debugging turned on
[13:38] <seele> firefox isn't installed by default in intrepid
[13:38] <seele> it was konq, and it wasn't just the browser, like i said, ssh connections would connect but then drop
[13:38] <seele> same with updating adept packaged.. it would pull the first few and then timeout on the rest
[13:38] <seele> nevermin, i'll go back in to kubuntu-devel
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> seele: then check the logs for weirdness
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> dmesg may help
[13:39] <Roger_Klotz> ActionParsnip, LjL: you guys rule ./configure works now, thanks guys
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: awesome
[13:39]  * ActionParsnip hi5s LjL
[13:42] <powertool08> Vim isn't doing syntax highlighting for me, how do I enable it?
[13:42]  * LjL hi256s ActionParsnip
[13:42] <Roger_Klotz> ok 1 more:  make: *** [install] Error 2
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/syntax.html
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: what command generates that?
[13:43] <Roger_Klotz> nvm up directory i think
[13:43] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: ya I guess I can google as easy as you guys... sometimes I just get lazy hoping IRC has an instant answer
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: its all i do for most things
[13:44] <Roger_Klotz> do any of you guys use Kate? mines really buggy it seems
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: a bit, wassup with it
[13:45] <Roger_Klotz> it just crashes almost every time i open it
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: you could try sudo apt-get --purge remove kate; sudo apt-get -y install kate
[13:46] <Roger_Klotz> ok cool
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: run kate from konsole, you will get intelligent output
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: id try that before reinstalling
[13:46] <dude> ActionParsnip: why is it i can't install the opera browser
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> dude: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> dude: go to the bottom and add the line
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> dude: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> all that (without your name
[13:49] <dude> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> press enter on the end of the line too
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> save and exit
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> cd ~/; sudo wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[13:50] <dude> ActionParsnip: i'll finish this update of the linux kernel
[13:50] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: does wget have tab complete functionality? seems like its useless if you don't know the full address, if you have to look it up its faster to use a browser
[13:50] <dude> ActionParsnip: i'll just finish this update of the linux kernel
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> dude: ok cool
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> dude: but you need that repo
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> dude: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install opera
[13:51] <saharagurl> hello
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> hi saharagurl
[13:52] <dude> ActionParsnip: ok, ty
[13:52] <saharagurl> hello
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> !opera | dude
[13:52] <saharagurl> hi every1
[13:55] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: did you see my wget question?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: im not sure. i dont believe so
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: wget is good for batch downloads and scripts
[13:56] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: true
[13:56] <saharagurl> ;)
[13:56] <powertool08> howdy saharagurl
[13:59] <Roger_Klotz> Make isnt working, i keep getting "make: *** [all] Error 2"
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: you have an error code, go see what it means
[14:01] <noaXess> ho can i connect to a mä vista share?
[14:01] <mamr> is it possible to turn the guidance-power-manager off and use powerdevil instead?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: on another pc?
[14:02] <noaXess> hi ActionParsnip
[14:02] <noaXess> fro my kubuntu i try with smb4k to connect to a vista share
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hi noaXess
[14:02] <dude> ActionParsnip: E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: check smbmount
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !opera | dude
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> dude: use that guide
[14:05] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: should i connect the vista share with cifs or smbfs'
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: id use smbfs
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: could try both
[14:07] <noaXess> ActionParsnip:  i try with smb4k.. but get  mout error 2 = no such file or directory
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: check syntax as well as the share name
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> make sure the name resolves to the correct ip
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> make sure your firewall allows connetions
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> make sure you use the right username and password
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> you MUST have a password for it to work
[14:08] <noaXess> under win os's it works..
[14:08] <noaXess> i have one..
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: good, most windows idiots have no password
[14:09] <noaXess> ho.. i have allways password, everywhere i can ;)
[14:10] <noaXess> hm.. no such file or directory..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !smbmount
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> bah
[14:12] <noaXess> hihi.
[14:12] <noaXess> who to list the shares of a win computer?
[14:13] <noaXess> with smbclient?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/smbclient/
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: yep
[14:14] <noaXess> normaly i use smb4k, cause it's a great tool
[14:14] <noaXess> fr handling shares
[14:14] <noaXess> win shares
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[14:15] <thefish> noaXess: you can also do it with dolphin by going to smb://windowsmachine
[14:15] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: thx
[14:15] <noaXess> or konqueror?
[14:15] <thefish> yep
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: if its a frequently used thing i'd mount it
[14:16] <noaXess> ok with konquerer i be now connected to the vista shares.. :)
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: its not mounted though, its like accessing via network neighbourhood in windows rather than mapping a network drive
[14:17] <noaXess> ok.. thats rigth
[14:18] <saharagurl> hey
[14:18] <saharagurl> can somebody help me?
[14:18] <saharagurl> how can i go to mirc?
[14:18] <Roger_Klotz> :|
[14:18] <thefish> noaXess fusesmb is another cool way to browse windows networks, check that out as well :) - needs a little bit of config
[14:19] <noaXess> thefish: ok.. i have heared about it
[14:19] <thefish> saharagurl: use xchat or konversation instead on linux
[14:19] <thefish> noaXess: ye when it works its nifty, i think it relies on nmb though, so can be flakey
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> !irc | saharagurl
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: you can run mirc via wine but there are native clients which will be more stable
[14:20] <saharagurl> ty
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: bitchx has scripting support like mirc
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: what function of mirc do you like?
[14:21] <Roger_Klotz> ActionParsnip: for future reference make error 2 is fixed by using "chmod a+x install"
[14:21] <saharagurl> im checking right now
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: awesome
[14:22] <saharagurl> i jst wanna go to dalnet
[14:22] <saharagurl> from there i know how to join channel
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: well you must have used it to be wanting it in ubuntu surely?
[14:22] <saharagurl> lol
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: dalnet?
[14:22] <saharagurl> uhuh
[14:22] <saharagurl> one of the servers
[14:22] <Roger_Klotz> also chmod has to be run as root lol
[14:22] <saharagurl> like undernet,etc
[14:22] <saharagurl> im not a techi here
[14:22] <saharagurl> sorry guys
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: then connect to dalnet with your current client
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: you dont NEED mirc to connect to dalnet, its an irc server like freenode
[14:23] <saharagurl> im trying dear
[14:23] <saharagurl> im still here
[14:23] <saharagurl> see?
[14:23] <saharagurl> :)
[14:23] <kniolet> saharagurl: also dalnet has a web client thingy at www.dal.net
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: http://www.dal.net/servers/index.php3
[14:24] <saharagurl> http://www.dal.net/servers/index.php3
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> saharagurl: just connect to one of those
[14:24] <saharagurl> ok then
[14:25] <powertool08> *sigh* my cpsc hw was too easy today, now i'm bored...
[14:25] <powertool08> I think I'll be an overachiever and do part B, we had the option of one or the other
[14:26] <Roger_Klotz> AAHHHH this make error is still there. i can get the installer to run but i get a make error again and the install is unsucessful
[14:26] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: isn't installing from source fun? :p
[14:26] <Roger_Klotz> :)
[14:26] <Roger_Klotz> i wish there was an apt-get for the x-fi
[14:27] <powertool08> Roger_Klotz: just think, gentoo users deal with that with every program they install
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: what command are you running and what is the output?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> use pastebin
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: not with emerge ;)
[14:27] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: oh ya...
[14:27]  * powertool08 is not a gentoo user
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: emerge firefox-3.0
[14:28] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: actually it was the first distro of linux I ever tried to install following limited experience with knoppix
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: its like apt-get but downloads source and compiles for you as well as deps
[14:28] <kniolet> so it takes 3 years to get up and running ;-)
[14:28] <powertool08> those around me who actually knew what linux was said I was nuts, sadly I never really got it to a working state before switching to another distro
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> kniolet: took me 2 days. compiling kde takes forever on a soc am2 semperon 3000 1.6Ghz
[14:30] <powertool08> Sometimes I still wish I'd stuck with it, maybe if I had known more I would have, my kernel configs always panicked, when I finally went for the vanilla source I got it installed and didn't realize it since it didn't come with gui
[14:31] <powertool08> I realized how close I was after installing another over it
[14:31] <Roger_Klotz> ok guys: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m6f1be11f   I highlighted my commands at the top and the errors at the bottom
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> who needs a gui
[14:32] <kosmofield> hi
[14:32] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: lol, at the time... me! I was fresh from XP
[14:33] <saharagurl> hi
[14:33] <kosmofield> Is it possible to change the access date & modified date for a file?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: makes sense
[14:33] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I'm confident I could do it now and someday maybe I'll try it again
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> if you got spare time go for it
[14:34] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I'm exploring Arch and the awesome window manager atm so maybe when I'm through with that and need more excitment
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> try fluxbox :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> kicks ass
[14:36] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I've used it on livecd's but kinda skipped it in my minimalization... I went from kde to gnome, back to kde, e17, lxde, xfce, and now kde on the main rig, awesome on the play rig
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kde is fine, kwin is nasty
[14:38] <saharagurl> thanks im in dalnet now
[14:38] <saharagurl> :)
[14:38] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: ya, I won't be sticking with kde much longer
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> why wassup with kde?
[14:39] <Roger_Klotz> if any of you missed my pastebin here it is one more timehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m6f1be11f
[14:39] <Roger_Klotz> awww forgot a space
[14:40] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: its kinda bloated for my needs, I don't use any of the k<application>'s and I've moved towards cli apps for most things
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: try sudo apt-get install make
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: ive stripped most K apps out. I just like amarok which is the main app for my system
[14:42] <||arifaX> Hi, ich hätte mal ne Idee für einen Wettbewerb. - Es gibt derzeit 25016 Pakete für Kubuntu Hardy. - Der Contest wäre, so viele Pakete wie möglich auf einem System zu installieren (mit normalen Bordmitteln übers GUI). - Blöde Idee, ist mir gerade so in den Sinn gekommen!
[14:42] <Roger_Klotz> ActionParsnip: didnt work but thanks
[14:42] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I still use k3b and one superkaramba system monitor widget
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !de | ||arifaX
[14:42] <||arifaX> sorry
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> powertool08: k3b is ok. I use network more for storage so CDs are fairly redundant to me
[14:44] <powertool08> ActionParsnip: I don't use it often, which is probably why I haven't switched to a lighterweight replacement
[14:44] <Roger_Klotz> ActionParsnip: wouldnt I use the purge command like you told me to use for kate?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: what for?
[14:45] <Roger_Klotz> sudo apt-get --purge remove make
[14:46] <Roger_Klotz> then get make
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: sounds like an idea
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Roger_Klotz: if thats no good, jump into #gentoo
[14:47] <Roger_Klotz> still didnt work
[14:47] <Roger_Klotz> ok
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> they are big compilers
[14:58] <juan_> 666
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> the number of the beast
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Hell and fire was spawned to be released
[15:10] <cuznt> !botsnack
[15:28] <MuhopadHuyaj> hellow
[15:28] <MuhopadHuyaj> has anyone tried to install subj on HP nx9010
[15:29] <MuhopadHuyaj> coz I have and found some problems :-(
[15:35] <StevenTyler> http://chucknorrism.com/?mod=fact&id=278 <-- true?
[15:39] <johndelidi> any girl want to talk to me?
[15:40] <bazhang> johndelidi, this is not the channel for that
[15:40] <bazhang> this is Kubuntu OS support
[15:40] <johndelidi> sorry
[15:40] <johndelidi> were i can find channels?
[15:40] <bazhang> !irc
[15:40] <bazhang> check the last link johndelidi
[15:41] <johndelidi> thanks a lot my friend
[15:50] <student> halo?
[15:50] <student_> halooo
[15:50] <DaSkreech> !hi
[15:51] <geek> hmm
[15:51]  * geek ponders trying to compile monopaint ;p
[15:51] <student_> co fajnego robisz na necie??
[15:51] <student> ja?
[15:51] <geek> erf. what languae is that?
[15:51] <student_> ja
[15:51] <student_> Ty
[15:51] <student> polish
[15:51] <geek> !en
[15:51] <geek> ahh
[15:51] <student_> jaaaaaa
[15:52] <student_> po polskiemu pisać nie umita??
[15:52] <DaSkreech> !polish
[15:52] <content> #montreal
[15:53] <student_> co za żenada
[15:53] <student_> :)
[16:06] <paran0id> holas
[16:17] <MarkB1> are the mirrors for Kubu intrepid all bogged down? :)
[16:18] <MarkB1> can't seem to even get a .torrent file, bah
[16:22] <dr_Willis> I find it hard to belive ALL the mirrors are bogged down
[16:22] <dr_Willis> :)
[16:22] <MarkB1> slow as heck, US mirrors -- it appears
[16:22] <DaSkreech> MarkB1: Not yet. Next week will be horrible
[16:22] <MarkB1> unless somelace between me and them is slow...
[16:22] <MarkB1> ya
[16:22] <DaSkreech> SLow servers
[16:22] <geek> MarkB1: the utah one was ok for me
[16:22] <DaSkreech>  Botched upgrades
[16:22] <MarkB1> geek: thanks!
[16:22] <dr_Willis> I grabbed the torrent last week and  torrented it at blazing speeds
[16:22] <DaSkreech> and of course
[16:22] <DaSkreech> What the hell happened to KDE? Why does it look like this???
[16:23] <geek> DaSkreech: KDE4
[16:23] <dr_Willis> releases.ubuntu.com seems  slow/down
[16:23] <MarkB1> I tried 4.1.2 on Hardy -- "blank slate"ui -- does Intrepid fill in the blanks a bit more?
[16:23] <dr_Willis> He missed the KDE4 memo
[16:23] <dr_Willis> :)
[16:23] <dr_Willis> MarkB1,  not really
[16:23] <DaSkreech> geek: I know but people will upgrade and not read the release notes
[16:23] <geek> what annoys me is that a handful of aps use KDE3 and there's no obvious way to configure them
[16:23] <dr_Willis> even gnome is 'cleaned' up a bit
[16:23] <geek> DaSkreech: well i have a intel gig-e card...
[16:23] <DaSkreech> geek: Should be fixed now
[16:23] <geek> if i HADN'T been careful and waited, i might have lost ethernet support ;p
[16:24] <geek> DaSkreech: disabled, until it goes gold
[16:24] <DaSkreech> dr_Willis: is it me or practically none of the visible changes in Gnome are going into Ibex?
[16:24] <MarkB1> where do you all go for Intrepid-kubu "status reports from users"?  mainly here? :)
[16:24] <DaSkreech> ?
[16:24] <geek> MarkB1: in theory kubuntu+1
[16:24] <DaSkreech> #ubuntu+1
[16:24] <DaSkreech> it's in the topic
[16:24] <MarkB1> ah OK!
[16:24] <kniolet> i dont think there is oe though, so #ubuntu+1
[16:24] <dr_Willis> DaSkreech,  I saw some changes in the 8.10 gnome.. but i also kept my old home dir. so i dident really see that big a change
[16:25]  * MarkB1 would love a fleshed out E-17 desktop -- whatever that is -- hoping KDE 4.1.x will "get there" soon
[16:26] <dr_Willis> MarkB1,  theres a few ubutu variants that have a Tweaked E17 desktop
[16:26] <dr_Willis> Gebuntu is one.
[16:26] <dr_Willis> and i found it lacking. :)
[16:26] <MarkB1> dr_Willis: roger that, want something more "used" by folks I guess -- why I am sticking to Kubu for now -- still use WindowMaker a lot too
[16:26]  * geek ran lxde for a bit ;p
[16:27] <MarkB1> geek: really?  sucks how? :)
[16:27] <dr_Willis> Windowmaker is nice in ways.. but lately ive had issues with windowmaker g3etting icon sizes wrong.
[16:27] <DaSkreech> Ebuntu!
[16:27] <dr_Willis> I dident care much for lxde.. it worked.. but id rather use jwm+rox-filer...
[16:27] <geek> MarkB1: not bad once you grab one or two applets off gnome. its very friendly for formwe windows users IMO
[16:27] <MarkB1> dr_Willis: WMaker is pretty olde, but it works and is small
[16:27] <MarkB1> geek: thanks, good to know that
[16:28] <dr_Willis> wmaker is still gettting 'some' work on it. :) i guess theres some sort of 'connection' btween it and OS_X also.. but i never looked into it much
[16:28] <dr_Willis> I tend to use jwm/icewm/windowmaker for my vnc sessions
[16:29] <MarkB1> dr_Willis: I use WindowMaker + konq or xfe file-mangler
[16:29] <dr_Willis> Ive gotten where i perfer rox-filer for my filemanager over most of the others.
[16:29] <dr_Willis> I even figured how to make gnome use rox-filer.
[16:30] <MarkB1> imho windowmakerconf keeps WMaker relevant -- easy to config, more or less -- might want some Dbus integration or "applets" (light, plz) :)
[16:30] <cuznt> !subj
[16:30] <dr_Willis> I do much perfer the windowmaker warf/dock applets to the way other desktops  tend to use them
[16:31] <dr_Willis> all the kde plasmids/gnome desklets.. just seem to be clutter. :( wonder if there will be a more sidebarish type one for kde4
[16:31] <MarkB1> I would like a pager in WMaker -- heresy!  he he
[16:32] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. BY pager you mean? i recall a pager dock applet for wmaker...
[16:32]  * MarkB1 's biggest issue is memory pigish-ness on Gnome and KDE -- blecch
[16:32] <dr_Willis> showed the 4 desktops or whatever ya call them
[16:32] <MarkB1> dr_Willis: right
[16:32] <MarkB1> there's one for fvwm....
[16:43] <CYREX> Anybody needs help?
[16:44] <MarkB1> CYREX: how about a functional mirror for Kubu-intrepid torrent or download? :)
[16:44] <MarkB1> he he
[16:44] <CYREX> hehe
[16:45] <CYREX> well that just shows us how popular and demanded is the distro
[16:45] <geek> MarkB1: if i had more bandwith i'd just point you at my home server ;p
[16:46] <CYREX> @geek - True
[16:48] <DaSkreech> CYREX: My sound sucks
[16:50] <CYREX> DaSkreech: How come?
[16:51] <DaSkreech> clean installed Ibex and my sound went from being my general soundsystem to me having to put my ears to the speaker to hear things and funkiness like having to turn the volume down to hear anything
[16:52] <zerothis> I installed virtualbox, it didn't work for me, I removed it. But now no soundcards are recognized on my system. I purged it, reinstalled alsa-base, rebooted and still no sound. #vbox set me here.
[16:53] <MarkB1> DaSkreech: say it isn't so - still have broken Intel-chip sound on Kubu-hardy -- bah
[16:53] <DaSkreech> MarkB1: I can't explain it. It worked fine until it just didn't
[16:53] <DaSkreech> zerothis: :)
[16:54] <DaSkreech> zerothis: your sound cards don't show up in lshw -C Audio ?
[16:55] <DaSkreech> zerothis: Whoops sudo lshw -C Multimedia
[16:56] <zerothis> consol tools to look for hardware will see it. but no software will , that I've ound
[16:56] <MarkB1> DaSkreech: cool, new to me -- it works  http://dpaste.com/86593/
[16:57] <cuznt>  Chuck Norris is the only human being to display the Heisenberg uncertainty principle -- you can never know both exactly where and how quickly he will roundhouse-kick you in the face.
[16:57] <NickPresta> cuznt, awesome. Off-topic please. :)
[16:58] <cuznt> ;) sorry
[16:58] <cuznt> actually wrong window
[16:58]  * cuznt has 14 diff irc windows... i got to STOP....
[16:59] <DaSkreech> What does the software show?
[17:00] <DaSkreech> zerothis: so cli tools for audio play music?
[17:00] <zerothis> DaSkreech: <http://pastebin.com/d54d0840b>
[17:00] <DaSkreech> zerothis: The UNCLAIMED means it didn't get an IRQ
[17:01] <DaSkreech> check your dmesg errors to see what happened on startup
[17:01] <zerothis> DaSkreech: let me check (currently no of no cli audios)
[17:02]  * DaSkreech only has cli audios
[17:02] <DaSkreech> CYREX: Any clues as to either of those annoyances?
[17:04] <CYREX> DaSkreech: What annoyances? The unclaimed thingy?
[17:04] <zerothis> checking checking my dmesg errors is not something I know how to do yet
[17:04] <DaSkreech> CYREX: My audio going from rumbleiscious to mute
[17:05] <DaSkreech> and for videos I have to turn my sound down to hear anything
[17:05] <zerothis> mp3blaster started, it won't browse for files though
[17:05] <CYREX> i seem whats sound do you have
[17:05] <CYREX> what sound card i mean
[17:06] <DaSkreech> CYREX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/62069/
[17:09] <zerothis> cyrex, its built into the mobo. 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02
[17:10] <zerothis> I also have some of those C-media USB adapters and a USN headset with mic, the work niether
[17:14] <zerothis> mp3blaster "failed to open sound device"
[17:14] <DaSkreech> CYREX: zerothis would be the person who has no sound device as it's unclaimed
[17:15] <Pingjockey> Morning
[17:15] <CYREX> a ok
[17:15] <Pingjockey> Anyone have any experience with ricoh webcams
[17:16] <DaSkreech> Pingjockey: Have you read !webcam ?
[17:16] <Pingjockey> Not yet
[17:17] <DaSkreech> !webcam
[17:18] <zerothis> DaSkreech: <http://pastebin.com/d4234ea63>
[17:18] <gintulis> yra cia lietuviu?
[17:21] <DaSkreech> gintulis: Which language?
[17:21] <gintulis> lithuanian
[17:23] <DaSkreech> Umm
[17:24] <DaSkreech> !lit
[17:24] <DaSkreech> !lls
[17:24] <arthur06> ...
[17:24] <DaSkreech> !lithuanian
[17:25] <DaSkreech> zerothis: can you pastebin the output from lspci | grep audio
[17:28] <kesomania20> hola
[17:28] <kesomania20> quien puede ayudarme?
[17:29] <DaSkreech> gintulis: Any other language would help?
[17:31] <DaSkreech> !es
[17:33] <zerothis> DaSkreech: >http://pastebin.com/m4679fd6<
[17:38] <Guest82027> hi
[17:38] <CYREX> hi
[17:38] <arthur06> hi
[17:39] <Guest82027> good
[17:44] <zerothis> grrr, pidgen lost CYRIX, and I can't remember how to spell his name
[17:45] <zerothis> anywho, the reboot was ineffective
[17:48] <DaSkreech> CRYEX logged out
[17:48] <zerothis> oh well, he said he had no more ideas left anyway
[17:52] <DaSkreech> genii: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081023-study-hot-coffee-may-help-you-make-a-good-first-impression.html
[17:53] <genii> DaSkreech: Hah. Been waiting to show that one I see :)
[17:53]  * DaSkreech coughs. What gives you that impression :-)
[17:54] <genii> DaSkreech: I was on freenode all of 3 seconds before #kubuntu was blinkin at me..... ;)
[17:55] <genii> Any currently outstanding support issues ?
[17:57] <DaSkreech> zerothis: That would be you
[17:58] <zerothis> yes, I have an outstanding support issue
[17:58] <genii> DaSkreech: I have 40 minutes or so left on lunch
[17:59] <genii> zerothis: Could you summarize it for me please?
[17:59] <genii> ( the issue which is not resolved)
[18:00] <zerothis> installed virtualbox, removed virtual box, no sound card is "UNCLAIMED"
[18:01] <genii> Hmm,haven't seen that one before. Gimme a minute to look into it
[18:03] <genii> zerothis: Is it an Intel soundcard?
[18:03] <zerothis> I have several pastbis related <http://pastebin.com/m4679fd6><http://pastebin.com/d54d0840b><http://pastebin.com/m6a137b95><http://pastebin.com/d4234ea63><>
[18:04] <genii> OK, give me some time to scour those
[18:04] <zerothis> yes, intel see pastebin/m4...
[18:05] <zerothis> and this <http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/277>
[18:07] <genii> zerothis: So you are running 6.10 ?
[18:07] <zerothis> 8.04.1 hardy, it was vbox 2.0.2
[18:08] <genii> zerothis: That error ticket is for "After installing "VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386" no sound is available any longer under Kubuntu 7.04 and earlier. "
[18:09] <genii> zerothis: Did you install some deb file that was for Edgy and not Hardy?
[18:11] <dwidmann> zerothis: you probably should have opened a new ticket rather than hijacking that one?
[18:11] <genii> zerothis: Please report the result of:     lspci -nn | grep Audio                             this should give us the vendor:device   code which may be helpful
[18:11] <zerothis> yes, well its back, apparently. I installed virtualbox-2.0_2.0.2-36488_Ubuntu_hardy_i386.deb. I didn't know, it seems like the same problem
[18:11] <DaSkreech> Why -nn instead of vv ?
[18:12] <genii> DaSkreech: Do the two and note the difference in output :)
[18:13] <byteme_> hello all
[18:13] <dwidmann> genii: signficance of the extra numbers being?
[18:13] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:14] <byteme_> for the life of me I cant seem to get the links to work in my email through Thunderbird
[18:14] <dwidmann> byteme_: there are solutions for that out there ... albeit it's a bit of a pain in the butt
[18:14] <byteme_> it used to work
[18:14] <byteme_> then.. nada
[18:14] <genii> DaSkreech: Those are the vendor:device codes    which used by PNP/Udev to decide what the device is and what driver to use
[18:15] <DaSkreech> cool
[18:15] <byteme_> now i have a customer that wants me to show him how to get his working and I'm like ............help
[18:15] <byteme_> lol
[18:16] <Colonel_P> hey all
[18:17] <Colonel_P> I'm having a serious problem after trying to repartition a drive
[18:17] <zerothis> genii <http://pastebin.com/d2316420c>
[18:17] <Colonel_P> I keep getting a boot error 22 from GRUB
[18:17] <dwidmann> byteme_: modify this to suit: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:mIN0najEPaIJ:www-cip.physik.uni-bonn.de/~jupp/2007-07-20-making-thunderbird-open-links-in-opera-revisited.html+thunderbird+links+open+in+opera&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
[18:18] <dwidmann> Colonel_P: which one is error 22?
[18:18] <Colonel_P> dunno... it just says error 22
[18:19] <Colonel_P> when I look it up online, all I see is advice for people dual-booting Windows with Linux
[18:19] <genii> zerothis: OK. This card is actually an Intel HDA, although it seems to think it is an AC97 (although on some bios you can set this fo one or the other).
[18:19] <matisse> hi
[18:20] <matisse> how can i force xmms to read the new id3-tags ?
[18:20] <genii> !intelhda | zerothis
[18:20] <dwidmann> Colonel_P: 22 : "Must load Multiboot kernel before modules"
[18:20] <genii> zerothis: The instructions on the link from the bot are probably your best bet to get it going
[18:23] <diddly_> hi all, since upgrading to kde 3.5.10, konsole seems to unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH that I have set in my .bash_profile.  any ideas?
[18:24] <dwidmann> Colonel_P: make *very* certain that the grub menu.lst entries are correct. Even if you think they're correct back up the current entries and alter them to something else you think might work.
[18:26] <NauarchLysander> When I suspend my Laptop and unlock it, I am no longer able to get any audio output. When I hit the Power Button, it says something like "tpm_inf_pnp activation failed" (I missed some digits before and in between, it's there only a short time). Is there a possibility to fix this?
[18:26] <DaSkreech> matisse: use beep?
[18:27] <matisse> beep ?
[18:28] <matisse> turned beep in xchat on... :)
[18:32] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[18:33] <DaSkreech> beep media player
[18:33] <DaSkreech> Fork of xmms with some new features
[18:35] <matisse> ahh, ok :)
[18:36] <matisse> is it better than xmms ? (i would stop to use xmms, but it doesnt use much cpu power etc)
[18:37] <DaSkreech> beep uses more but not oodles more
[18:39] <matisse> if my computer was fast enough, i would choose amarok...
[18:41] <DaSkreech> Wuldn't everyone? :)
[18:44] <Tm_T> Amarok <3
[18:44] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: hi son
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Hi Tm_T
[18:46] <DaSkreech> how's kwibber? :)
[18:49] <DreadKnight> anyone else having this small issue with ktorrent? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173464
[18:49] <DreadKnight> (talking about latest intrepid... rc i think)
[18:51] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: no idea (;)
[18:52] <mathiasbrito> someone compiled KDE from trunk in kubuntu 8.10?
[18:53] <Tm_T> mathiasbrito: I do, daily
[18:53] <mathiasbrito> i'm having problems compiling kdebase
[18:53] <mathiasbrito> can i paste the error in pvt?
[18:53] <Tm_T> use pastebin
[18:54] <mathiasbrito> pastebin?
[18:54] <DreadKnight> www.pastebin.com
[18:54] <Tm_T> !paste
[18:54] <mathiasbrito> okz
[18:57] <mathiasbrito> Tm_T: i posted it there
[18:57] <mathiasbrito> as mathiasbrito
[18:57] <DaSkreech> isn't there a KDE-daily repos ?
[18:57] <DaSkreech> repo
[18:58] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: closest you're going to get is Neon
[18:58] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: sorta yes, in "neon"
[18:58] <Tm_T> mathiasbrito: please give the address to here
[18:58] <dwidmann> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main
[18:59] <mathiasbrito> http://pastebin.com/d4ed9d8e
[19:00] <Tm_T> mathiasbrito: ok and reason why you are compiling kde4 trunk is...
[19:00] <mathiasbrito> I'm trying to start taking a look at source, and maybe fix bugs!
[19:01] <Tm_T> mathiasbrito: well, first learn to build stuff (;)
[19:01] <Tm_T> because it says clearly why it doesn't build, fix that first
[19:01] <mathiasbrito> i installed libasound-dev
[19:02] <mathiasbrito> if i'm correcty this is the package that provides alsa-lib
[19:02] <Colonel_P> dwidmann: there's some backstory to all this
[19:03] <Colonel_P> my partitioning woes
[19:03] <Tm_T> mathiasbrito: hmmm, in doubt, remove CMakeCache.txt
[19:04] <mathiasbrito> i'll try, a momment
[19:04] <Colonel_P> dwidmann: you stll there?
[19:05] <Colonel_P> Here's what happened:
[19:05] <Colonel_P> I had run out of space on my / partition
[19:06] <Colonel_P> so I booted into PartdMagic
[19:06] <Colonel_P> I successfully shrunk my /home partition
[19:07] <DaSkreech> Colonel_P: Did you try sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[19:07] <Colonel_P> but when I tried to move it over to make room for the other partitions to expand, Gparted kept crashing
[19:07] <Colonel_P> please let me finish this, maybe the problem will be more apparent
[19:08] <mathiasbrito> Tm_T: It is all right now, thanks for your help, maybe it ill take a while to start contributing, but i just made the first step! :) sorry, no experience with cmake..
[19:08] <mathiasbrito> :-)
[19:08] <Colonel_P> after about half a day trying to get this to work, I backed up my /home dir to another large hard drive
[19:09] <Colonel_P> then, I copied my / partition, and pasted it into the free space that had been created after shrinking my /home partition
[19:10] <Colonel_P> so now, where I had once had 3 partitions (/, swap and /home), I now had 4 (/, swap, /home, and the copy of /)
[19:10] <Colonel_P> these partitions were named sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4
[19:10] <Colonel_P> I DELETED sda1
[19:11] <Colonel_P> then expanded my swap partition to fill up the remaining 10G space left by sda1
[19:11] <Colonel_P> so now I have 3 partitions: sda2 (a very big 10G swap partition), sda3 (/home) and sda4 (copy of /)
[19:14] <DaSkreech> what was on sda1 ?
[19:14] <zerothis> sorry for the abrupt leave, 7zip slowed my computer to near froze
[19:14] <Colonel_P> I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst to change these lines: root (hda0,2)
[19:15] <Colonel_P> and kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda4/ ro single
[19:15] <Colonel_P> sda1 had been my root partition
[19:15] <DaSkreech> k
[19:15] <Colonel_P> now I'm trying to boot from sda4
[19:16] <Colonel_P> ...the last partition on the drive
[19:16] <Colonel_P> but I keep getting these error 22
[19:16] <Colonel_P> messages
[19:16] <Colonel_P> is there any way to recover my system?
[19:17] <DaSkreech> Colonel_P: did you ask in #grub what error 22 is?
[19:17] <Colonel_P> no...
[19:17] <dwidmann> Colonel_P: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst and I'll take a look
[19:17] <Colonel_P> maybe I ought to try over there?
[19:18] <Colonel_P> ok I'm goiing to log on from the machine I did this on, from a PartedMagic CD
[19:18] <dwidmann> (that's right, I'm ba-ackkkkkk)
[19:18] <compilerwriter> If one had upgraded to one of the Ibex betas would adept have gone ahead and upgraded the entire distro when the release cantidate came out.
[19:19] <dwidmann> compilerwriter: yeah, installing the beta then upgrading later is the same as having the rc
[19:20] <compilerwriter> dwidmann I am in kde4 now and adept looks different how does one do an entire dist-upgrade now.  Though from what you are telling me it is not needed.
[19:20] <dwidmann> compilerwriter: no, what I'm saying is that's all that's needed
[19:20] <ColPanic-partedm> http://pastebin.com/m57f5a112
[19:21] <dwidmann> I'm not on Ibex so I can't really comment on how one might do it in Adept if it's different ... but sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would still do the trick
[19:21] <compilerwriter> Just let adept do its thing and I now already have the Ibex rc then
[19:21] <ColPanic-partedm> is it ok to have a boot drive with no sda1?
[19:21] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: so, which drive ran out of space? Which drive did you copy things on to? are they both still in the system?
[19:22] <ColPanic-partedm> OK I have 1 500G physical drive and another 1T physical drive
[19:22] <ColPanic-partedm> the 500G drive now has 3 partitions:
[19:23] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: are you part way into ibex?
[19:23] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: so the 500GB drive ran out of space, and you copied things to teh 1TB drive, I presume?
[19:24] <compilerwriter> DaSkreech It appears I am all the way into Ibex now.  Adept did its job wonderfully.
[19:24] <ColPanic-partedm> sda2 (swap) 10.26GB, sda3 (/home) 407.39GB and sda4 (copy of /) 48.1 GB
[19:24] <ColPanic-partedm> yeah I copied most of the crap from my home partition there
[19:24] <rodri_esp> hello
[19:25] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: ah a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should be good then
[19:25] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: so you only copied the home partition to the new drive?
[19:25] <ColPanic-partedm> then I copied the remaining contents of my /home dir there too
[19:25] <rodri_esp> i would like to know how to set up a S3 Unichrome video card
[19:25] <ColPanic-partedm> well, first I copied most of the stuff that had filled my home part
[19:25] <DaSkreech> !unichromw
[19:25] <DaSkreech> !unichrome
[19:25] <DaSkreech> Eh?
[19:25] <ColPanic-partedm> before doing this repartitioning thing
[19:25] <dwidmann> !chrome
[19:25] <genii> !openchrome
[19:25] <genii> Interesting
[19:26] <ColPanic-partedm> then before repartitioning, I copied my entire /home dir to a dir on that frive, so yes everything from /home is backed up
[19:26] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: what's the partition structure of the 1TB drive looking like right now?
[19:26] <ColPanic-partedm> 1 big partition
[19:26] <rodri_esp> don't you know anything about unichrome?
[19:26]  * DaSkreech praises the $BREAK and passes the coffee
[19:26] <ColPanic-partedm> sdb1
[19:27] <genii> Coffee, alright!
[19:27] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: before all of this, did you just recently put the 1TB drive in your system? Maybe BIOS and/or grub are confused?
[19:27]  * compilerwriter Praises the Irish and passes DaSkreech the flask.
[19:27] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: try changing all instances of (hd0...) to (hd1...)
[19:28] <DaSkreech> rodri_esp: Yeah you install the unichrome X driver
[19:28] <DaSkreech> But that hasn't been touched in ooooh a few years
[19:28] <ColPanic-partedm> the 1T drive has been in there  for a couple months
[19:28] <DaSkreech> S3 went from writing their own open drivers to being really really linux hostile
[19:28] <ColPanic-partedm> there's another thing
[19:29] <ColPanic-partedm> whenever I try to boot and I get one of those 22 error
[19:29] <uten> yeh back
[19:29] <uten> as i was sayin
[19:29] <uten> kwibber?
[19:29] <ColPanic-partedm> then I try to reboot from a livecd
[19:29] <Natanaiel> how can I install kde4 on ubuntu 8.10 RC?
[19:29] <ColPanic-partedm> it gets to the initial screen, but as soon as I hit a key it reboots
[19:29] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: That would be you :)
[19:29] <dwidmann> Natanaiel: it should be there by default ...
[19:30] <ColPanic-partedm> last time, it did this like 20 or 30 times before actually rebooting from the CD
[19:30] <ColPanic-partedm> maybe I need to shut down and leave the computer off for awhile before rebooting to the CD?
[19:30] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: that's weird ... I have no idea why it would do that.
[19:30] <ColPanic-partedm> I know
[19:30] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: still, try
[19:30] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: try changing all instances of (hd0...) to (hd1...)
[19:31] <ColPanic-partedm> well, what's hd1?
[19:31] <ColPanic-partedm> isn't that the big disk?
[19:31] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: maybe, maybe not.  I want kde 4.0
[19:32] <ColPanic-partedm> OK well, I guess I'm accomplishing nothing just sitting here
[19:32] <dwidmann> Natanaiel: who would want 4.0? ... I doubt it's there at all
[19:33] <ColPanic-partedm> so in menu.lst, I change *all* instances of hd0 to hd1?
[19:33] <ColPanic-partedm> like, do a find/replace?
[19:33] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: right
[19:33] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: sure
[19:34] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: then save, reboot, and hope for magic
[19:34] <ColPanic-partedm> um... OK
[19:34] <ColPanic-partedm> this is kinda nuts, but I'll try it
[19:34] <dwidmann> ColPanic-partedm: (it's not my fault grub is retarded sometimes)
[19:35] <Colonel_P> here goes
[19:36] <Colonel_P> error 22
[19:36] <Colonel_P> damn
[19:36] <Colonel_P> HULK SMASH!!!
[19:38] <DreadKnight> Colonel_P: that sucks... had that myself a while ago...
[19:39] <Colonel_P> OK
[19:39] <Colonel_P> it booted to the CD just fine this time
[19:39] <Colonel_P> the trick is to completely power down for a few seconds first
[19:39] <Colonel_P> back in Partedmagic
[19:41] <ColP-partdmgc> maybe the folks in #grub can help with this?
[19:42] <Colonel_P> I seem to have really eff'd things up this time
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Colonel_P: It can be fixed
[19:44] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Were you the only person working on it?
[19:44] <Colonel_P> It seems strange not to have an sda1
[19:44] <Colonel_P> well, I was receiving some help
[19:46] <koperton> i need of tester for this http://www.nowardev.netsons.org/?q=node/1
[19:47] <joseph> quick question...... how do I get the title bar back in 8.04
[19:47] <joseph> quick question...... how do I get the title bar back in 8.04
[19:51] <joseph> quick question...... how do I get the title bar back in 8.04
[19:51] <DaSkreech> The what?
[19:51] <joseph> the blue bar accross the top
[19:51] <joseph> all I have now is the window
[19:52] <joseph> I cant move any window arround
[19:52] <DaSkreech> joseph: do you have a terminal open ?
[19:52] <joseph> I can
[19:52] <joseph> ok
[19:52] <DaSkreech> type kwin &
[19:53] <joseph> wow, that was it
[19:53] <joseph> sweet thanks
[19:53] <DaSkreech> sure thing
[19:53] <DaSkreech> If you logout and back in it should save it
[19:55]  * dwidmann is back
[20:00] <xomp> how can I force all windows in KDE to open as maximized? This cascading thing it does is a bit annoying :(
[20:02] <DaSkreech> dwidmann: Catch me up on Colonel_P's situation