[21:08] <qwebirc59437> hi there. i have mythbuntu control centre installed on ubuntu 15.04 but when i go to install primary backend it freezes at applying changes. can anyone help. thanks
[21:10] <tgm4883> qwebirc59437: run mythbuntu-control-centre from the command line and pastebin any error messages
[21:15] <qwebirc59437> be back in a minute
[21:22] <qwebirc96668> hi there. i was on a minute ago abour ubuntu 15.04 and mythbuntu-control-centre.
[21:23] <tgm4883> yep
[21:23] <qwebirc96668> here is a copy of the terminal
[21:23] <qwebirc96668> mark@mythtv-backend:~$ mythbuntu-control-centre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done WARNING: Failed to set from config file. Setting defaults Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/lib/python3.4/configparser.py", line 1116, in _unify_values     sectiondict = self._sections[section] KeyError: 'General'  During handling of the above exception, another exc
[21:24] <qwebirc96668> File "/usr/share/mythbuntu/plugins/python/mythbuntu-bare.py", line 85, in captureState     self.changes['serverip'] = self.config.get("General", "serverip")   File "/usr/lib/python3.4/configparser.py", line 754, in get     d = self._unify_values(section, vars)   File "/usr/lib/python3.4/configparser.py", line 1119, in _unify_values     raise NoSectionError(section) configparser.NoSectionError: No section: 'General' debco
[21:25] <qwebirc96668>  /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied debconf: Unable to initialise frontend: Gnome debconf: (Can't locate Gtk2.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Gtk2 module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20 /usr/share/perl/5.20 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /us
[21:25] <qwebirc96668> 1.) debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[21:25] <tgm4883> !pastebin
[21:25] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[21:26] <tgm4883> qwebirc96668: is this on Ubuntu with Unity?
[21:26] <qwebirc96668> yeah
[21:27] <qwebirc96668> here is the link http://pastebin.com/v7sgpGGb
[21:27] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:27] <tgm4883> qwebirc96668: try this
[21:27] <tgm4883> close mythbuntu-control-centre
[21:28] <tgm4883> in a terminal type
[21:28] <tgm4883> killall mcc-backend
[21:29] <qwebirc96668> it is now closed
[21:29] <tgm4883> and you did the killall command?
[21:29] <qwebirc96668> i had already force quit
[21:29] <tgm4883> mcc-backend is different, you need to run that command
[21:30] <qwebirc96668> mcc-backend: no process found
[21:30] <tgm4883> although I'm wondering if something got broken in the gnome version that ships with 15.04
[21:30] <tgm4883> oh, sudo that process
[21:30] <tgm4883> sudo killall mcc-backend
[21:31] <qwebirc96668> mcc-backend: no process found
[21:32] <tgm4883> ok
[21:32] <tgm4883> so lets try this again
[21:32] <tgm4883> mythbuntu-control-centre from the command l ine
[21:32] <tgm4883> and pastebin any error messages
[21:33] <qwebirc96668> its saying that primary backend is installed
[21:34] <qwebirc96668> when i click system roles
[21:38] <tgm4883> ok
[21:38] <tgm4883> in a terminal, do this
[21:38] <tgm4883> "dpkg -l | grep myth"
[21:38] <tgm4883> and pastebin the output
[21:40] <qwebirc96668> http://pastebin.com/NYM3YvNq
[21:42] <tgm4883> qwebirc96668: ok, so the master backend is installed
[21:42] <tgm4883> I would recommend switching to the update repo
[21:42] <tgm4883> there are a bunch of fixes in there, the mythtv you are running is pretty old
[21:42] <tgm4883> almost 1 year of fixes
[21:43] <qwebirc96668> i have installed front end and a few other things. i have paste bin those errors http://pastebin.com/X92tdCUy
[21:44] <tgm4883> ok
[21:45] <tgm4883> the frontend was also installed, I see it in the previous pastebin
[21:45] <tgm4883> it's possible all those errors are coming from -bare, but they appear to not stop it from installing
[21:45] <qwebirc96668> was it. i have tick all the repositories
[21:45] <tgm4883> try this
[21:46] <tgm4883> close mythbuntu-control-centre
[21:46] <tgm4883> from a terminal do
[21:46] <tgm4883> 'sudo apt-get remove mythbuntu-bare-client'
[21:46] <tgm4883> then try opening mythbuntu-control-centre again and seeing if you still get a bunch of errors
[21:47] <qwebirc96668> (standard_in) 1: syntax error /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythbuntu-bare-client.postrm: 11: [: Illegal number:
[21:48] <tgm4883> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythbuntu-bare-client.postrm
[21:49] <qwebirc96668> no errors doing that
[21:50] <tgm4883> ok, lets try this
[21:50] <tgm4883> sudo apt-get -f install
[21:50] <tgm4883> and see what it wants to do before you say yes
[21:52] <qwebirc96668> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 8 not to upgrade.
[21:52] <tgm4883> ok
[21:52] <tgm4883> now how about
[21:52] <tgm4883> sudo apt-get remove mythbuntu-bare-client
[21:53] <qwebirc96668> Package 'mythbuntu-bare-client' is not installed, so not removed
[21:53] <tgm4883> ok cool
[21:53] <qwebirc96668> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 8 not to upgrade.
[21:53] <tgm4883> now start mythbuntu-control-centre
[21:53] <tgm4883> see if you still get a bunch of errors
[21:53] <qwebirc96668> from terminal
[21:54] <tgm4883> yea
[21:54] <qwebirc96668> mark@mythtv-backend:~$ mythbuntu-control-centre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done
[21:55] <tgm4883> ok, so far so good
[21:55] <tgm4883> make sure the 0.27 repos are enabled
[21:55] <qwebirc96668> that one is
[21:55] <qwebirc96668> and the other 2
[21:57] <tgm4883> ok
[21:57] <tgm4883> so to update the packages, you'll need to update as normal. So either update-manager or via apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[22:00] <qwebirc96668> am a gui man so tring to us software updater and it says failed to download repository information
[22:01] <qwebirc96668> trying terminal
[22:02] <qwebirc96668> error http://pastebin.com/GbWj3qHD
[22:06] <tgm4883> ok, go ahead and disable the mythbuntu-update ones
[22:06] <tgm4883> the mythtv updates are what you want anyway
[22:10] <qwebirc96668> got no errors just running upgrade
[22:11] <qwebirc96668> done
[22:16] <tgm4883> cool, so you should be good to go then
[22:17] <qwebirc96668> cool thanks. so why was it freezing
[22:26] <qwebirc96668> anyway thanks again am off to bed :-)


[02:03] <nagappan> any clues, when I try to join IRC from pidgin, it crashes in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[02:03] <nagappan> is this a known issue ?
[02:09]  * persia tests
[02:11] <persia> nagappan, I'd recommend reporting a bug, either with ubuntu-bug or by enabling apport.  Sounds like there's something special going on, rather than it being widespread.
[02:11] <nagappan> persia, ok
[02:12] <nagappan> persia, actually my system was upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10->8.04->8.10 now :D
[02:12] <nagappan> persia, after every release
[02:13] <persia> Mine is only 8.04 -> 8.10.  Dunno if that makes a difference.
[07:08] <ara> morning!
[10:51]  * ara takes a break
[18:13] <cgregan> stgraber: ping
[18:13] <stgraber> cgregan: pong
[18:14] <cgregan> stgraber: I was wondering what languages ISO Tracker was written in so I could hire some people with those skills to help out.
[18:14] <cgregan> s/help out/help you out
[18:20] <cgregan> stgraber: unless you want to move to Lexington! ;-)
[18:49] <stgraber> cgregan: hehe, I'm not that far from Lexington actually (Quebec) :) but I'm fine with my current job :). The ISO tracker is PHP using Drupal
[18:51] <cgregan> stgraber: Thanks....I'll see what I can do


[02:14] <diddledan> *yawn*
[02:15] <daftykins> yeah it's about that time
[03:55] <jussi> and Im awake already :/
[03:55] <jussi> 0655 WHYYYYY!!!????
[04:00] <nigelb> jussi: that's late
[04:00] <nigelb> also, good morning.
[04:00] <jussi> nigelb: moaning...
[04:00] <nigelb> jussi: TMI...
[04:00] <jussi> hah!
[04:00] <nigelb> :D
[05:02] <diddledan> do the hippy shake!
[06:13] <mapps> sheesh
[06:15] <mapps> lent someone £200 and now hes begging he hadnt borowed it
[06:15] <mapps> ffs
[06:15] <mapps> he borowed it in a vasino
[06:18] <jussi> mapps: was he drunk?
[06:36] <mapps> yea
[06:36] <mapps> hate lending people money
[06:36] <mapps> still could be worse
[06:37] <MartijnVdS> mapps: become a bank, get rich off it :P
[06:37] <mapps> heh
[06:38] <mapps> i was just worrying about getting anothe drink
[06:38] <mapps> got work at 4pm ..7am now
[06:38] <MartijnVdS> don't get another drink if you're worrying :)
[06:38]  * mapps has drink problem
[06:38] <mapps> heh
[06:39] <MartijnVdS> mapps: realizing that is the first step :)
[06:39] <mapps> yea well
[06:39] <mapps> ive done that like 2000x
[07:22] <smittix> Morning people
[07:26] <bashrc> morning
[08:11] <Myrtti> http://www.interactivezoo.eu/index.php?id=3 - have a look at the "Pesa kaamera"
[08:16] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Find a Rainbow Day! :-D
[08:21]  * DJones hums the tune for "Up above the streets and houses"
[08:22] <foobarry> anyone tried using copy.com yet with the linux cilent, or thinking of getting an account?
[08:23] <foobarry> PM me if you do. you get extra 5gb witha referral link
[08:40] <jussi> bah... daily google gripe coming up...
[08:41] <jussi> why is it impossible to sign one user out, instead of all of them when you use multiuser... grrr
[08:51] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:05] <diddledan> *yawwn*
[09:09] <bigcalm> Can one tell these Cisco phones about NTP?
[09:09] <bigcalm> The thought of changing the time on it twice a year seems odd to me
[09:16] <directhex> NTP isn't the issue, TZ is the issue
[09:16] <directhex> NTP gives time in UTC
[09:17] <bigcalm> Good point
[09:17] <bigcalm> With both NTP and proper TZ info, I wouldn't have to set the time at all!
[09:17] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> moo!
[09:17] <directhex> the point is the phone needs to change TZ from GMT to GMT+1 and back again on specific dates
[09:18] <directhex> so i made our polycoms do it rece ntly, but i don't know the syntax for cisco
[09:18] <MartijnVdS> change the config, make all phones reboot, done :P
[09:19] <directhex> it's 15 config settings on the polycoms
[09:19] <directhex>         tcpIpApp.sntp.daylightSavings.start.dayOfWeek="1"
[09:19] <directhex> etc
[09:23] <bigcalm> If I had multiple desk phones to manage, then I'd invest time in making it happen. But as we have 1 desk phone per remote worker (3), not that fussed :)
[09:23] <bigcalm> It's nice that they have a web interface
[09:24] <bigcalm> My only grumble is that it takes up a fair patch of space of my desk
[09:30] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:05] <diddledan> the old ones are the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
[10:07] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: http://www.reddit.com/r/VXJunkies
[10:08] <bigcalm> diddledan: wow :)
[10:11] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:14] <bigcalm> Morning davmor2
[10:14] <bigcalm> Poor Ron
[10:16] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: I was just getting myself together to knock off and head up when hid email arrived didn't seem much point then :(
[11:18] <diplo> Hope someone can help me whilst I google at the same time
[11:18] <diplo> We have a lot of customers hosting email on mini itx boxes, I've resolved a few issues but as they are hosted on Business DSL lines we are getting marked as spam I expect because of no Reverse DNS
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> likely
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> or bad reverse dns
[11:19] <diplo> As far as I am aware, I can contact the ISP to get tha tresolved as it's a business line
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> owner of the IP block, but yes, most likely the isp
[11:20] <diplo> So I get a received from domain.co.uk ( xx-xx-xx-dsl.in-addr.xxx.co.uk )
[11:20] <diplo> I'm guessing the DSL shuld return domain.co.uk or should it return mail.domain.co.uk ?
[11:20] <diplo> That's the bit I'm not clear on
[11:20] <diplo> Only mail hosted on these boxes
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> diplo: the reverse should match the forward
[11:22] <MartijnVdS> diplo: so if they're named mail.domain.co.uk, make that the reverse
[11:23] <diddledan> diplo: AFAICR the reverse dns for your IP should be the hostname of the box (as MartijnVdS says it needs to be matched with a forward record) which should also match what the smtp server says when it says EHLO
[11:23] <diplo> Ah ok great thanks
[11:23] <diplo> Just found the ISP's support site at last which allows me to do it via their portal it seems
[11:26] <diplo> Hmm my issue is the linux box that sends these mails uses the mailserver SMTP but seems to have the HELO record from the linux box that is using that SMTP
[11:26] <diplo> I think I need to play mroe
[11:26] <diplo> :)
[11:47] <diplo> Bah whatever I do it sends the HELO from the server I'm sending the mail from and not the SMTP server
[12:46] <diddledan> I think chocolate is required
[12:47] <daftykins> :D
[12:47] <daftykins> that's a permanent one imo
[12:47] <diddledan> yeah, I could easily agree with that
[12:50] <foobarry> eats chocolate orange and celebrations
[12:51] <daftykins> :O share :(
[12:51] <daftykins> actually don't share, i definitely wouldn't :D
[12:51] <foobarry> minstrels too
[12:54] <daftykins> :O
[12:54] <daftykins> diddledan: i'll distract him, you go for the goods...
[14:31] <bigcalm> Anybody here using a Cisco 303 desk phone?
[14:36] <daftykins> DJones: i like to think you pulled up in a car with flashing lights when you said 'stop' in #ubuntu :D
[14:36] <DJones> Heh
[14:38] <DJones> The phone rang so I couldn't continue with it
[14:39] <daftykins> :)
[14:55] <mapps> ah well
[14:56] <mapps> friend lost 900 quid last night
[14:56] <mapps> was almost in tears!
[14:56] <mapps> every time we go out he barely leaves the blackjack table
[14:57] <dwatkins> so it wasn't lost so much as gambled away?
[14:57] <mapps> yep
[14:58] <mapps> begged me to borrow 250 blows it
[14:58] <dwatkins> still gutting, but not "it fell down a drain"
[14:58] <mapps> withdraw 400 more then more at other casino
[14:58] <mapps> everytime he does this barely leaves table
[14:58]  * bigcalm shudders at gambling
[14:58] <mapps> i have to mither him to get him to leave
[14:58] <dwatkins> likewise, bigcalm
[14:58] <dwatkins> I prefer to spend my money on shiny tech
[14:59] <mapps> i spent years gambling
[14:59] <dwatkins> also, I'm really good at getting addicted to things
[14:59] <mapps> and yea..didnt realy do me any favours
[14:59] <dwatkins> my current addiction is "solving problems", which fits in quite well with my job
[14:59] <mapps> its a horrid feeling worrying about a 50 quid bill
[14:59] <mapps> when you just blew thousands
[14:59] <mapps> so stupid
[14:59] <dwatkins> it makes all kinds of conversations difficult, though - I'm terrible at consoling people, I just want to fix their problems
[15:05] <daftykins> you won't catch me even buying a lottery ticket
[15:07] <dwatkins> same here
[15:07] <dwatkins> I know the odds.
[15:08] <dwatkins> Someone I know occasionally wins a tenner on the lottery, I just think of how much money he spends on tickets each year.
[15:09] <bigcalm> Only place I might win money is on my NS&I bonds
[15:10] <bigcalm> Either way, not losing money is the best feeling
[15:16] <Laney> premium bonds?
[15:21] <bigcalm> Yus
[15:21] <bigcalm> I have £30k of them. Will find out at the beginning of May if I've 'won' any money
[15:22] <Laney> you need to win ${inflation}% to not lose :P
[15:22] <bigcalm> Yep
[15:23] <Laney> to be fair my savings accounts barely manage that
[15:23] <Laney> but at least you know what you're getting
[15:23] <bigcalm> Indeed, same for us
[15:23] <bigcalm> This way it's a bit of fun at the same time
[15:23] <Laney> I cashed out my bonds because they got me naff all over 5 years
[15:23] <Laney> wasn't worth the gamble
[15:23] <Laney> didn't have 30k though, so not as much chance of getting lucky
[15:23] <bigcalm> The money is in there ready for a mortgage deposit. This way we have a bit of fun in winning money
[15:24] <bigcalm> We don't know when we'll need the mortgage deposit. But if it's soon, then they would have made bugger all interest in a normal savings account
[15:25] <bigcalm> This way, there is a slight chance of winning £1m without losing anything
[15:25] <dwatkins> you can take the money out at any time?
[15:25] <bigcalm> Yes
[15:25] <dwatkins> awesome
[15:25] <bigcalm> But it has to be in for a full calendar month to be entered into the prise draw
[15:26] <bigcalm> £30k is the maximum. So we have other money in normal ISA account
[15:29] <dwatkins> hmmm, I need to know my account number to register
[15:29]  * dwatkins e-mails a parent
[15:30] <dwatkins> I had £100 in bonds many moons ago, perhaps there's still some paperwork in a drawer somewhere
[15:30] <bigcalm> Registering for online account management means printing off a form and posting it to Glasgow!
[15:31] <bigcalm> 7 day turn around on getting my login details
[15:31] <bigcalm> Same turn around for a change of address. Though to a different address
[15:31] <dwatkins> I can walk there quicker than that.
[15:57] <ali1234> premium bonds used to be better than most savings accounts if you had the maximum amount (which just increased in the budget btw)
[15:58] <bigcalm> Oh?
[15:58]  * bigcalm goes to look
[15:58] <ali1234> if you calculate the probability i mean, you used to get something like 5%
[15:58] <ali1234> you need a lot to avoid variance though
[15:59] <bigcalm> Website still says the maximum investment is £30k
[15:59] <ali1234> i'm 75% sure they increased it in the budget though it might not have come in to effect yet
[15:59] <popey> yeah, my dad had the max
[15:59]  * bigcalm does more googling
[15:59] <popey> was quite a tidy amount now and then in his retirement
[15:59] <ali1234> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/savings/10708444/Budget-2014-NSandI-Premium-Bonds-limit-to-hit-50000-with-new-1m-prize.html
[16:00] <bigcalm> http://www.nsandi.com/chancellor-announces-plans-nsi-2014-budget
[16:01] <bigcalm> Wah, long way off
[16:01] <ali1234> ISA limits have also been increased
[16:01] <ali1234> or will be
[16:02] <bigcalm> We're hoping that our house buying chain picks up speed and we'll be using our mortgage deposit sooner rather than later
[16:02] <ali1234> you can get instant cash ISAs... they're not great though
[16:02] <bigcalm> That said, it would still be nice to win something before we need to withdraw
[16:03] <bigcalm> Yeah, we already have 2
[16:03] <ali1234> i wish they'd outlawed the "no transfers" thing, it's really annoying
[17:03] <MooDoo> evening all
[17:19] <popey> Hello MooDoo !
[18:12] <SuperEngineer> well, that's my Ubuntu 1 take take complete... thanks U1 - I'll miss you.
[18:12] <SuperEngineer> *take down
[18:13] <SuperEngineer> [though still wondering whether to delete purchased music on site... nah... can't be bothered... have fun listening guys and gals ;)l;kjll
[18:16] <SuperEngineer> It helped being on leave, gave me the time to check & retrieve/delete -nice timing if they had to it i suppose.
[18:19] <SuperEngineer> so now the choice... dropbox [recently hacked], spideroak [hmmm] others [no experience]...
[18:19] <SuperEngineer> USB stick... weee my files are mine!
[18:20] <SuperEngineer> But *will* miss the music store :(
[18:20] <diddledan> ok, I have several computers. I want to maintain a list of known security issues related to any or all of them and have the ability to mark each system as patched individually as I get the job done. so it's a bi-directional list - each system is listed separately and each patch is listed separately and I want to mark each patch against each system depending on whether it's relevant, fixed, or still todo
[18:21] <diddledan> the best I can come up with is creating a spreadsheet
[18:21] <diddledan> does anyone know of a "better way"?
[18:21] <SuperEngineer> diddledan: post-its?
[18:21] <diddledan> hell no
[18:21] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[18:22] <SuperEngineer> [I have seen that done before - i gasped]
[18:23] <popey> i use syncthing and dropbox
[18:24] <popey> https://owncloud.com/blog/canonical-ubuntu-one-users-come-check-owncloud
[18:24] <popey> ☻
[18:24] <diddledan> I've got owncloud running here, now, too
[18:27]  * SuperEngineer hunts for old spreadsheet where this was carried out for over 50 machinesat a financial institution....
[18:29] <SuperEngineer> darn - professionalism & integretity is somtimes annoying - not found - assumed deleted [or MIA if you prefer]
[19:05] <webpigeon> Ubuntu one is getting eaten by the mists of time?
[19:15] <bashrc> nomnomnom
[19:20] <popey> ttp://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2014/04/03/s07e01-the-one-with-the-cat/
[19:20] <popey> dammit
[19:20] <popey> http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2014/04/03/s07e01-the-one-with-the-cat/
[19:23] <bigcalm> Studio L?
[19:25] <popey> I know, right!?
[19:25] <popey> we have so many studios!
[19:25] <bigcalm> What do you do with them all?
[19:26] <diddledan> russian pocast roulette
[19:26] <diddledan> podcast*
[19:26] <davmor2> bigcalm: it's the same studio the Letter is just the dimension it is in
[19:27] <bigcalm> Library space eh?
[20:13] <bigcalm> Right, lets try and get eth working on this laptop
[20:18] <daftykins> \o/
[20:21] <bigcalm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7200377
[20:26] <bigcalm> Humf, it works now
[20:26] <bigcalm> I wonder if a new driver was added to the kernel
[20:28] <bigcalm> Right, lets try and get this switch working
[20:29] <diddledan> I wonder what the other endpoint on pci address 3:00 is in addition to your realtek network
[20:30] <diddledan> specifically 3:00.0 where your ethernet is 3:00.1
[20:46] <daftykins> diddledan: perhaps some kind of intermediary PCI-E chip 0o
[20:53] <bigcalm> !ding
[20:53] <daftykins> wouldn't really make sense for a NIC chip to be non-native PCI-E by this time though eh 0o
[20:53] <bigcalm> Oh good, it is working :)
[20:53] <daftykins> just upgraded to the land of gigabit is it, bigcalm ?
[20:54] <bigcalm> Sadly no
[20:54] <diddledan> no giganuts?
[20:54] <bigcalm> Just swapped out my router hub for a router switch
[20:54] <diddledan> o_O
[20:54] <bigcalm> Now have 8 ports for all my things instead of the 4 on the router hub
[20:56] <bigcalm> Gone from Netgear WNDR3700v2 -> Netgear ProSafe Gigabit 8 Port VPN Firewall FVS318N
[20:56] <daftykins> o rly
[20:56] <daftykins> did you have DD/open-wrt on the former?
[20:57] <bigcalm> open-wrt, yes
[20:57] <bigcalm> I had that router because it has a USB port and I can share my phone's 3g connection via it to the LAN
[20:57] <bigcalm> But I need more ethernet ports
[20:58] <diddledan> moar ethernets
[20:58] <daftykins> i'd have just got a switch ;)
[20:58] <daftykins> as it is i go from a consumer router to a switch to cover all my gear \o/
[20:58] <diddledan> less wallwarts!
[20:59] <daftykins> guess so
[20:59] <bigcalm> daftykins: the latter is a switch
[20:59] <daftykins> oh right so you have done
[20:59] <bigcalm> With lots of lovely routing and a rather slow web interface
[20:59] <daftykins> haha
[20:59] <diddledan> I have a decided lack of power sockets and I believe some of the occupied holes are faking it
[21:00] <daftykins> i seem to have new neighbours now, not that they've introduced themselves. must check the wifi airways to see if they're encroaching on my channels D:
[21:00] <diddledan> gerroff my airwaves!
[21:00] <bigcalm> Looking at the "Known PCs and Devices" connected to the switch, there are 2 devices connected that I don't know what they are
[21:00] <bigcalm> Which is confusing
[21:01] <diddledan> lol
[21:01] <diddledan> I love that
[21:01] <daftykins> bigcalm: nmap's your friend
[21:01]  * bigcalm goes to find out what the IP address of his wife's tablet is
[21:01] <daftykins> two cheeky little dual-channel devices around here
[21:02] <diddledan> I have currently reporting around 20-22 active IP addresses on my lans
[21:02] <diddledan> that includes VMs tho
[21:02] <daftykins> :)
[21:02] <diddledan> and mobiles
[21:04] <daftykins> friends used to remark on how everything in my places talked to one another, heh
[21:04] <daftykins> now pretty much everyone can do it
[21:04] <diddledan> the internet of things hasn't happened yet for me though
[21:05] <daftykins> no?
[21:05] <MooDoo> evening
[21:05] <daftykins> what exactly defines the borderline?
[21:05] <daftykins> heya
[21:06] <diddledan> I need IP ceiling lamps
[21:07] <diddledan> when my illumination can perform a DoS on a government website then I'll accept that I've reached nirvana
[21:08] <bigcalm> I've just seen a 3rd unknown device connect to the router
[21:08] <bigcalm> Then the front door opened as my wife came home
[21:08] <bigcalm> It'll be her phone :)
[21:08] <diddledan> lol, advanced notice
[21:09] <daftykins> hahaha
[21:09] <daftykins> tracking enabled
[21:09] <bigcalm> This device is so bloody slow
[21:09] <daftykins> is nobody as power-paranoid as i, turning wifi off when away from networks i trust?
[21:09] <bigcalm> Argh
[21:09] <daftykins> firmware update?
[21:10] <bigcalm> Not of its own accord
[21:10] <daftykins> nah i do it all manually
[21:10] <daftykins> or do you mean auto firmware update?
[21:11] <bigcalm> Oh, you're suggesting I should do a firmware update?
[21:11] <daftykins> if one's available
[21:11] <daftykins> with worthwhile features
[21:11] <diddledan> which device?
[21:11] <daftykins> there's no network device really, that i don't update prior to even configuring once
[21:12] <diddledan> oh the router
[21:12] <daftykins> tends to be turn on, update, factory reset, configure
[22:40] <bigcalm> !ding
[22:40] <bigcalm> I am here again :)
[22:40] <daftykins> D:
[22:40] <bigcalm> Updated the firmware. Routing stopped happening
[22:41] <daftykins> ooh-err
[22:41] <daftykins> i claim zero responsibility!
[22:41] <bigcalm> Not sure what I've done to get it working. Might have been a case of waiting long enough for things to calm down
[22:41] <daftykins> defaults changed i guess?
[22:41] <bigcalm> It kept my settings prior to the firmware update
[22:43] <daftykins> odd
[22:52] <bigcalm> !ping
[22:52] <bigcalm> Still here :)
[22:53] <bigcalm> My laptop will no longer connect to the wifi
[22:55] <bigcalm> Going to risk it and go to bed
[22:55] <bigcalm> Toodles
[22:59] <popey> ☻
[23:00] <popey> \o/


[11:09] <Toki> Hey, peeps anyone got an internal HDD to spare? Anything that can handle a regular Ubuntu installation would do.
[11:55] <bassem> Toki, ???
[11:56] <Toki> bassem: I need a HDD for my desktop. The old one's ain't working no more.
[11:56] <bassem> Toki, buy one :-)
[11:56] <Toki> bassem: Money.
[11:58] <bassem> Toki, you have 2 options: 1- use your laptop from cd 2- use it from usb
[11:59] <Toki> bassem: It's not about the laptop, I said desktop.
[11:59] <Toki> Laptop still not showing any signs of revival.
[11:59] <Toki> I've got a Pentium IV desktop.
[12:00] <bassem> same for desktop!
[12:01] <bassem> Toki, did you try to boot ubuntu from usb? it's pretty fast
[12:01] <Toki> bassem: Takes too long to boot.
[12:01] <Toki> And I can't take out the USB and use the PC at the same time. >_>
[12:01] <bassem> maybe you have usb 1
[12:03] <Toki> If you mean multiple USBs, back to square one - I"d need to buy a new one.
[18:35]  * nlsthzn falls asleep, good night


[01:45] <keithclark> How reliable is the Ubuntu One service at the moment?
[01:52] <keithclark> I don't want to invest in something that is always doen
[01:52] <keithclark> *down
[02:01] <duanedesign> keithclark: the latest client on Ubuntu 11.04 is real reliable
[02:01] <tntc> keithclark: it's been pretty good for me. I haven't seen an outage, just a slowdown
[02:02] <CardinalFang_> keithclark, file sync has been quite stable for a while.  If you're using music player, the playlist server was flaky for May and June, but should be good now.
[02:02] <keithclark> Nope, just interested in the file sync service
[02:04] <tntc> keithclark: yeah, you should be good to go
[02:04] <tntc> be careful though: I'm 26gb away from my 250gb band cap because I synced 42gb to 3 machines
[02:05] <keithclark> tntc I have no limit
[02:06] <tntc> who's your ISP
[02:06] <keithclark> eyesurf
[02:06] <tntc> I'm jealous :)
[02:07] <keithclark> I had to look hard
[02:07] <keithclark> They are very good and local
[02:08] <keithclark> I also have Primus at both my small businesses and they are unlimited
[02:10] <keithclark> Just not Rogers or Bell
[02:18] <tntc> keithclark: I have Comcast, and they are mostly good, but they have a 250gb cap. There's 100MBit service, but that means you'd hit the cap in 6 hours!
[02:18] <tntc> I only have the 24mbit
[02:19] <tntc> I'd switch to capless fios, but they aren't available anywhere in my state
[02:20] <tntc> wait, ubuntu one is under maint right now XD
[02:22] <keithclark> I have a slow connection but unlimited.  Does streaming just fine
[02:23]  * pmatulis wonders why the down status of u1 is not advertised
[02:24] <tntc> pmatulis: it is if you go to one.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <pmatulis> tntc: should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[02:26] <pmatulis> tntc: or their blog or twitter.  all the places they say it should be
[02:27] <pmatulis> tntc: of course if you try to use it you're going to get the result that it's down
[02:27] <pmatulis> (i.e. going to one.ubuntu.com)
[02:28] <keithclark> It seems to be down a lot.  At least in my recent experience
[02:29] <tntc> When is this maint period going to be over?
[02:32] <pmatulis> "soon"
[02:33] <keithclark> Is this typical?
[02:45] <tntc> it appears to now be soon? I'm not sure. the site is back up at least
[03:12] <keithclark> No, seems to be down
[14:46] <cinnamine> I clicked + 20 GB, then ubuntu one was down. Out of Space Exception? :)
[14:58] <beuno> cinnamine, heh
[14:58] <beuno> no, we're having problems with one of our databse servers
[15:05] <cinnamine> okay thanks for the information :)
[19:20] <pmatulis> beuno: must be pretty serious.  it's been down an awfully long time
[20:23] <beuno> pmatulis, it should be back up, no?


[09:57] <kyanardag_> is ubuntuone syncing for everybody okay? it stopped working for me for a week..
[17:19] <mandel> anyone knows how to update the contents of a couchgrid??
[21:20] <p1x3l> hello
[22:16] <rtgz> testing123


[09:19] <zyga> bjf: hey, do you have a moment to talk about the SRU process?
[09:22] <henrix> zyga: it will take a few more hours before he's around ;)
[09:24] <zyga> oh :-)
[09:24] <zyga> it's my first day as SRU coordinator :)
[09:24] <zyga> henrix: maybe you can help me
[09:25] <henrix> zyga: i can try :)
[09:25] <zyga> henrix: I'd like to know if the SRU schedlue this time is normal?
[09:25] <zyga> henrix: or if there are any changes
[09:26] <henrix> zyga: yeah, i guess the plan is to start a new SRU cycle next week (after the 12.04 point release)
[09:26] <zyga> henrix: thanks, we were anticipating that
[11:30] <blafelixblanicht> pls fix: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71031
[13:48] <henrix> dannf: do you plan to submit a formal patch to fix the ftbfs?
[13:49] <henrix> dannf: i'm asking because we'll have a new SRU cycle starting next week and it would be nice to have this sorted out before that :)
[13:58] <dannf> henrix: if you wanna go that way i can - wasn't sure if apw would prefer backporting the utopic version or not
[14:00] <henrix> dannf: you're patch is definitely non-intrusive and its unlikely for us to have that aufs patch backported and tested for next week
[14:01] <henrix> dannf: obviously, the other solution is to simply revert the ptrace patch, but that wouldn't be my first choice :)
[14:02] <henrix> dannf: but lets wait to see if apw has anything to say about it
[14:03]  * henrix thinks apw is starting to get annoyed by my requests these last few days
[14:36] <apw> henrix, heh no, just distracted by meetings
[14:37] <henrix> apw: yeah, i guess you've been pretty busy this week :)
[14:37] <apw> henrix, i think i've uploaded the apport fix
[14:38] <henrix> apw: ah, awesome!  thanks a lot
[14:38] <henrix> ara: ^^
[14:41] <ara> apw, uploaded as in -proposed?
[14:41] <apw> ara, as in in the queue for -proposed
[14:41] <ara> apw, awesome, thanks!
[14:41] <ara> apw, medium priority?? ;-)
[17:27] <mlindner> Are there any notable drawbacks to using a different kernel that is not ubuntu supplied?
[17:28] <mlindner> Namely I want to use xenomai with their recommended kernel rather than ubuntu's kernel
[22:42] <apw> mlinder (N,BFTL), you are reliant on that other kernel provider for security updates and necessary features