[08:37] <elacheche> Morning folks
[09:00] <nzoueidi> morning o/
[09:32] <elacheche> Wassup nzoueidi :)
[09:44] <nzoueidi> as usual, fine ty what about you?
[10:27] <elacheche> Good :)
[10:37] <elacheche> praisethemoon: how are you doing?
[10:38] <praisethemoon> elacheche, was terribly sick last two days, didnt work :(
[10:38] <praisethemoon> but now i am much better, thanks for asking ^^
[10:42] <elacheche> Take care of yourself
[15:49] <pavlushka> Hello every one:)
[15:51] <pavlushka> I see someone is back!
[15:51] <u-la-la> Hello praisethemoon
[15:52] <praisethemoon> XD
[15:52] <praisethemoon> hello pavlushka :3
[15:52] <praisethemoon> yes I'M BACK
[15:52] <praisethemoon> muahahaha
[15:53] <pavlushka> :pppppppppppraisethemoon
[15:55] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: can you see it?
[15:57] <praisethemoon> XDDD
[15:57] <praisethemoon> I see .. <.<
[15:57] <praisethemoon> >.>
[15:57] <praisethemoon> u-la-la msg pavlushka: bad bad pavlushka
[15:57] <u-la-la> praisethemoon: I don't know who pavlushka: is. Say 'pavlushka: on freenode' and I'll take your word that pavlushka: exists
[15:57] <praisethemoon> XDDDDDD
[15:58] <pavlushka> u-la-la: tell praisethemoon something
[15:58] <u-la-la> pavlushka: Okay, I'll tell praisethemoon on freenode
[15:59] <pavlushka> praisethemoon: have you noticed this "pavlushka: Location: Dinajpur, Bangladesh ~ pavlushka: Temp: 19°C (66°F) ~ Cond: Haze ~ Humid: 93% ~ Wind: 0 km/h (0 mph) ~ Time: 21:00" here a minute ago?
[16:00] <praisethemoon> U HAZ NO WIND
[16:00] <u-la-la> praisethemoon: By the way, pavlushka on freenode told me "tell praisethemoon something" 1 minute and 47 seconds ago
[16:00] <praisethemoon> D:


[00:00] <vandelsoncleitos> yep, i had some problems with sonic mania specifically, of course, i am using extremelly old hardware, but it should run
[00:01] <vandelsoncleitos> I was using a 2010 laptop, and it overheated,despite the fact that i cleaned it an changed the termal paste
[00:01] <oerheks> no diea, depends on GPU i guess
[00:01] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/steam
[00:01] <oerheks> maybe a more recent version solve things?
[01:27] <rodrigo> hi drone!
[02:09] <oerheks> 🤪
[02:16] <arraybolt3> oerheks: ?
[02:47] <ravisankarj> hi
[02:49] <ravisankarj> i installed ubuntu 22.04 lts alongwith windows 11, while installing using live usb it detected my ethernet network, but after installation of Ubunutu it is not showing ethernet connection, but I am able to successfully connect to internet using wireless Lan adapter
[02:49] <ravisankarj> could anyone help me to resolve the issue?
[02:56] <ravisankarj> Hi, I installed ubuntu 22.04 lts alongwith windows 11, while installing using live usb it detected my ethernet network, but after installation of Ubunutu it is not showing ethernet connection, but I am able to successfully connect to internet using wireless Lan adapter, could anyone help me to resolve this issue?
[03:04] <arraybolt3> ravisankarj: Boot into Windows 11 and disable Fast Startup.
[03:05] <arraybolt3> https://www.howtogeek.com/856514/how-to-disable-fast-startup-on-windows-10/
[03:05] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3 I already disabled it before installing ubuntu
[03:05] <arraybolt3> oh. Uh... ok that's weird.
[03:06] <arraybolt3> Can you run `sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999` and share the link that spits out? That will let us see your kernel log and hopefully diagnose what's gone wrong. (Please don't paste kernel log output directly into the chat.)
[03:06] <Menzador> arraybolt3: Mind explaining why disabling Fast Startup is helpful in this situation?
[03:07] <oerheks> fastboot can capture devices, sata, network, usb
[03:07] <arraybolt3> Menzador: If it hadn't already been disabled, it would have been likely that Fast Startup was causing the Ethernet device to not be properly initialized by Linux (this happens frequently with lots of devices, for reasons I don't understand).
[03:07] <Menzador> Ah, gotcha
[03:08] <arraybolt3> A lot of times people will complain of WiFi not working in a dual-boot setup, and turning off Windows Fast Startup usually fixes it.
[03:08] <arraybolt3> (Sadly it doesn't appear to be the problem this time.)
[03:08] <oerheks> what laptop and what network adapter?
[03:08] <oerheks> maybe there is already an answer
[03:08] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3: https://termbin.com/nu80k
[03:08] <oerheks> * if 2 ports, choose the other one
[03:10] <oerheks> ravisankarj, last bios update F18c	20.36 MB	Sep 20, 2023
[03:10] <oerheks> https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-DS3H-rev-10-11-12-13/support#support-dl-bios
[03:10] <arraybolt3> ravisankarj: Can you also do `sudo lspci | nc termbin.com 9999` and share that link?
[03:11] <oerheks> see changelog what fixes are in it
[03:11] <arraybolt3> that will let us see your system's PCI hardware, which will hopefully include the Ethernet adapter
[03:11] <arraybolt3> I don't see any errors in the kernel log.
[03:11] <ravisankarj> https://termbin.com/4efh
[03:12] <oerheks> no network at all
[03:12] <Menzador> I don't see anything there either
[03:12] <arraybolt3> I literally do not see any network devices in there
[03:12] <arraybolt3> No Ethernet, no WiFi, nothing.
[03:12] <oerheks> reset bios, and boot again
[03:12] <arraybolt3> Are you using a USB WiFi adapter by any chance?
[03:13] <arraybolt3> That might explain why WiFi isn't showing up, but doesn't explain why Ethernet isn't here.
[03:13] <Menzador> (That would explain why there isn't an icon in the top right, anyway)
[03:13] <Menzador> hey you, stop reading my mind :P
[03:13] <arraybolt3> lol
[03:13] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3: yes, i am using usb wifi adapter, since my ethernet is not working
[03:13] <arraybolt3> ah ok
[03:13] <arraybolt3> so we've not collectively lost our minds or vision :D
[03:14] <Menzador> how about `sudo lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
[03:14] <Menzador> We could at least get that working in the meantime if a BIOS reset doesn't work
[03:14] <oerheks> is it worth it, without proper bios update?
[03:14] <arraybolt3> Menzador: I think he said WiFi works already.
[03:15] <Menzador> Oh right
[03:15] <Menzador> I missed that
[03:15] <arraybolt3> oerheks: I personally don't run BIOS updates if I can avoid it. Too risky :P That being said, if this isn't a simple misconfiguration issue, a BIOS update might help.
[03:18] <Menzador> I don't think oersaid anything about updating* the BIOS, just resetting it to its defaults
[03:19] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3: do i need to update the bios or reset?
[03:19] <arraybolt3> Reset to default settings.
[03:19] <Menzador> ravisankarj: Load the optimized defaults first
[03:19] <arraybolt3> Usually your BIOS will have some "Restore Defaults" button somewhere in there.
[03:20] <arraybolt3> (If you had to tweak the settings before for some reason, bear in mind you'll lose those tweaks doing this)
[03:20] <arraybolt3> (but those tweaks may have been what caused the issue in the first place)
[03:25] <ravisankarj> ok I am going to start ping from mobile using IRC cloud using the name ravisankarj
[03:27] <ravisankarj> sorry using libre chat
[03:27] <Menzador> not a problem
[03:36] <ravisankarj88> hi, i did reset bios
[03:39] <ravisankarj88> @arraybolt3, @Menzador: I did reset bios
[03:39] <arraybolt3> any luck?
[03:39] <aje> moo
[03:39] <aje> I said moo
[03:40] <ravisankarj88> @arraybolt3: nope, still no ethernet interface
[03:40] <arraybolt3> aje: moo back
[03:47] <arraybolt3> ravisankarj: Does your Ethernet device happen to be a PCIe card?
[03:47] <ravisankarj> No
[03:47] <arraybolt3> Does Windows see it?
[03:48] <ravisankarj> Just now checked it, in windows too it is not working
[03:48] <arraybolt3> Hrm. Sounds like hardware failure.
[03:49] <arraybolt3> Might try updating the BIOS just in case it might help.
[03:49] <ravisankarj> I replaced ethernet cable with a new one, but no luck, all this happened after the installation of Ubuntu
[03:49] <Menzador> (Assuming you looked in Windows' Device Manager too)
[03:50] <arraybolt3> Another possible trick would be to remove the BIOS battery, leave it out for a while, then put it back in and reboot.
[03:50] <arraybolt3> That trick has rectified crazy hardware issues for me more than once.
[03:50] <ravisankarj> In windows device manager it shows wireless lan, wan mini ports
[03:51] <arraybolt3> So no Ethernet device?
[03:51] <ravisankarj> Yes
[03:51] <arraybolt3> That's definitely hardware-related if so. (Unless the Linux kernel somehow fried the device, which is exceedingly unlikely.)
[03:52] <arraybolt3> I'd start with the BIOS battery trick and see if that fixes it.
[03:52] <ravisankarj> Do I need to remove and place the CMOS battery?
[03:53] <arraybolt3> Well... are you using BitLocker with Windiws?
[03:53] <arraybolt3> *windows
[03:54] <ravisankarj> No
[03:54] <arraybolt3> If not, then yeah, I'd remove and replace the BIOS battery. If you are using BitLocker, though, doing that could make Windows ask for a recovery key.
[03:54] <arraybolt3> Ah, good, then yeah, try removing and replacing the BIOS battery.
[03:54] <arraybolt3> (I've had systems that were entirely dead start working again after this, so it's worth a shot.)
[04:04] <ravisankarj> I removed and placed the battery again, now windows is able to detect ethernet, but Ubuntu is keep on restarting
[04:06] <arraybolt3> like Ubuntu can't boot up now?
[04:06] <arraybolt3> Or it tries to connect to Ethernet but fails?
[04:07] <ravisankarj> Ubuntu can't boot
[04:08] <arraybolt3> What error does it fail with, if any?
[04:08] <arraybolt3> Are you still getting a GRUB menu at bootup?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> ravisankarj: Windows now in Hybernation mode ?
[04:09] <ravisankarj> I can't see any error, just trying to boot and then restarts, sometimes after logging in, sometimes before logging in
[04:10] <arraybolt3> oh weird, like it boots but then randomly resets?
[04:11] <arraybolt3> This is going to sound weird, but if that's what's happening, can you try plugging your computer into some outlet other than the one it's plugged into right now? Preferably plug it into an entirely different circuit in your house.
[04:11] <arraybolt3> This sounds a bit like power supply issues, which could be the PSU's fault, or it could be that the computer isn't getting enough power (perhaps because of something using up a lot of power on the same circuit, like a coffee maker or some such)
[04:12] <ravisankarj> But windows working properly
[04:12] <arraybolt3> I'd try it anyway just in case.
[04:13] <arraybolt3> I mean these sorts of things don't sound like any kernel issue I've ever heard of before.
[04:13] <JeffH> apt-get upgrade shows that gitlab has an update.  I install the update and during installation I get an error "No space left on device". None of my disks are anywhere close to being full.  Any ideas?
[04:14] <arraybolt3> JeffH: Perhaps your /boot partition is out of space?
[04:15] <arraybolt3> ravisankarj: Another possible problem could be a malfunctioning RAM stick. See https://serverfault.com/questions/1035618/my-ubuntu-20-04-1-lts-pc-restarts-randomly
[04:15] <arraybolt3> Windows appeared to work but Linux spontaneously rebooted for no apparent reason for that guy.
[04:15] <JeffH> "/boot" shows 1.6G available.
[04:16] <arraybolt3> JeffH: Are you using BTRFS by any chance?
[04:17] <JeffH> arraybolt3: not that I know of.  I did just notice that "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv" shows 100% full.  Not quite sure what that is.
[04:18] <arraybolt3> Sounds like you're using LVM and one of your logical volumes filled up, maybe?
[04:18] <JeffH> I'm running a VM
[04:19] <arraybolt3> I mean, I don't think I'll be much help except to just keep suggesting things that might be out of space. If it's a VM, make sure the host isn't out of space, make sure the guest isn't out of space, check volumes, partitions, etc., all that sort of stuff.
[04:19] <JeffH> I should google and see if I can dynamically increase a UTM VM
[04:19] <arraybolt3> You can run `df` to quickly see what drives have how much space.
[04:40] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3: if I switched off the system and leave it for few seconds, then I am able to login in ubuntu successfully, and ethernet is detected. If I restart it or if I restart it after logging in windows Ubuntu is not working, keeps in restarting, ethernet is not working
[04:41] <arraybolt3> yeah that's really weird. Intermittent weirdness like this can oftentimes be intermittent RAM failure. Try running https://www.memtest86.com on your system for several hours and see if it turns anything up (leaving it to run overnight would be a good idea).
[04:42] <arraybolt3> you could also use https://www.memtest.org if you'd prefer using an open-source tool, either one should work
[04:43] <ravisankarj> Ok I will try, but this is a new PC
[04:46] <arraybolt3> That makes it even more likely that hardware failure is the problem. Hardware is most prone to fail very early on, or after a long life. Usually if it works for a while it should keep working, but when it's brand new there's the potential for the hardware to be defective.
[04:51] <ravisankarj> Also during those times my usb devices are not working properly like keyboard, mouse etc, only the serially connected keyboard working
[04:51] <ravisankarj> I will run the memtest
[04:52] <ravisankarj> But this is all after the installation of Ubuntu, windows is working properly for a week
[05:10] <arraybolt3> ravisankarj: RAM issues can be weird like that. The person on Stack Exchange I sent you a link to had Windows working perfectly, even through stress tests, yet Linux was rebooting randomly. Ended up being a RAM problem.
[05:11] <matsaman> Linux is better at exploiting RAM
[05:11] <arraybolt3> If it is a RAM issue, you'll be glad to know even if you end up using Windows, since RAM issues can end up causing very strange problems with any OS (Windows included). Perhaps the issues don't show up on Windows as easily, but they can still show up and potentially cause major problems (data loss for instance).
[05:17] <Kadigan> Hmhm
[05:18] <Kadigan> I have a 5700G in my server running Debian. I'm normally at multi-user, since I'm running headless.
[05:18] <Kadigan> However, I've recently found myself needing a GUI for some stuff.
[05:19] <Kadigan> Here's the funny thing: if I boot into graphical, the system *shuts off* after a few minutes.
[05:19] <guiverc> Kadigan, this is a Ubuntu support room, not Debian
[05:19] <Kadigan> Yeah, I know, but since this guy's CPU is a 5600G,
[05:19] <Kadigan> it's possible that the issue is the iGPU.
[05:19] <rbox> lol
[05:20] <Kadigan> At the very least, I wanted to mention that this started happening as soon as I started switching to graphical.target,
[05:20] <Kadigan> and it STOPPED as soon as I went back to multi-user.
[05:20] <guiverc> sorry Kadigan, i thought you were asking a question, not responding.. but yes GPU heat can cause hardware to reach threshold & cause shutdown; if server the machine logs should provide details
[05:21] <ravisankarj> @arraybolt3: okay I will run the test after sometime, thank you all for your support
[05:21] <Kadigan> guiverc: Yeah, nothing in the logs. It just... ends. :)
[05:21] <Kadigan> But yeah, I just wanted to mention, to provide a second google query option.
[05:22] <guiverc> server hardware (enterprise grade) often have their own logs which can provide more beyond what OS logs can (esp. on kernel panic or emergency triggered shutdown events)
[05:22] <en1gma> im on ubuntu 22.04.3 and im trying to flash my router over lan. when router is off the lan is disconnected. can i force it to stay on somehow? i only have a short time from when i turn router on to when the flashing starts the tftp server over the manual ip address i set for lan
[05:23] <Kadigan> Not server-grade hardware. Gigabyte B550 board + 5700G.
[05:23] <en1gma> windows can do it but i dont want to boot to windows and set tftp32 server up there
[05:23] <Kadigan> en1gma: you can set it to a static configuration, yes
[05:24] <en1gma> i already did that. im talking about forcing the lan to stay on even when no power is going to lan cable. as it turns the lan off
[05:24] <Kadigan> It should stay on with a static configuration, it's the autoconfiguration doing that. Or, it should be. If it's doing signal detection, I'm not sure you can influence that. Huh...
[05:25] <en1gma> on the router i have to have it powered off then i hold the reset button in and power on and i have 10 seconds until it starts flashing. when ubuntu detects the connection the flashing is over and never completes
[05:26] <Kadigan> Possible that the hardware is now trying to be too smart for its own good... I recall TFTPing fw with no issues a few years back...
[05:26] <en1gma> dang. i have it already and just set up tftp-hpa server and its ready. crap
[05:27] <Kadigan> Hm.
[05:27] <Kadigan> It's over IP, right?
[05:28] <Kadigan> Have you tried using a switch in the middle?
[05:29] <Kadigan> Would at least keep the link negotiated.
[05:30] <en1gma> dont have a switch
[05:30] <Kadigan> Hub? Second router?
[05:30] <Kadigan> Some other device that won't break the link when the target router is depowered.
[05:32] <claw> claw> Can you share with me how real CloudStack is? I tried reviewing with Ubuntu pro services in architecture call and they were not aware of CloudStack as a supported offering under the Ubuntu open source library support. Everything is ostack, micro, sunbeam, etc.
[05:34] <Kadigan> Is there some sort of !tell here?
[05:37] <Kadigan> Well, I have to go, but one more idea for en1gma is https://superuser.com/a/1639793 using ethtool to force the link, but AFAICT the driver needs to support it
[07:17] <neil__> Ok,now what?
[07:18] <neil__> Hi?
[07:19] <toddc> !support | neil__
[07:20] <toddc> ask your questions
[07:21] <neil__> Testing
[08:21] <kotgc> Hello, anyone know some good CD to mp3 programs? My old list shows Asunder or Lame?
[08:31] <CosmicDJ> kotgc: I have used rip many many years ago...
[08:33] <kotgc> CosmicDJ, thank, but no results in Ubuntu?
[08:38] <CosmicDJ> kotgc: ripit seems similar https://packages.ubuntu.com/mantic/ripit
[08:39] <kotgc> CosmicDJ, sorry, no results.
[09:22] <cent> Comming from RHEL I'm implementing cgroups at Ubuntu 20.04 (cannot use a higher distro release).
[09:22] <cent> I am finding out there is no systemd service prepared for cgroups as there is for RHEL/CentOS.
[09:22] <cent> Am I missing a package that deliver an appropriate config for the service?
[10:32] <Yosho> whats going on??
[10:32] <Yosho> im new on ubuntu
[10:44] <TomyWork> I'm on kubuntu desktop, I use NetworkManager and strongswan to connect to an ipsec/ikev2 VPN. its routes are on table 220 instead of the default table. The VPN doesn't have routes that fit my specific needs, so I want to set custom routes. NetworkManager allows setting custom routes, but the GUI doesnt have a way to select the table to place those routes into. nmcli does, but they get overwritten every time I connect, for some reason. So I was going to
[10:44] <TomyWork> set those routes statically instead.
[10:44] <TomyWork> How do I best set static routes on ubuntu desktop?
[10:45] <TomyWork> do I do that via netplan or via NetworkManager?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:57] <uwu_linux_openbs> BluesKaj: hello
[11:08] <BluesKaj> hi uwu_linux_openbs
[11:27] <TomyWork> https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/networkmanager/networkmanager-and-netplan so netplan generates NM config and vice-versa? eww
[11:28] <TomyWork> also what is /etc/Netplan? I only have /etc/netplan and /etc/NetworkManager
[11:28] <TomyWork> is ubuntu core something else than ubuntu desktop/server?
[11:29] <TomyWork> oh, "Ubuntu Core is a secure, application-centric IoT OS for embedded devices", so I'm looking at the wrong docs :D
[11:51] <Soni> trying to figure out why distcc cannot find the c++ (cross-)compiler...
[11:55] <Soni> like what, if anything, is wrong here? https://github.com/SoniEx2/wasm2kotlin/actions/runs/6732001710/job/18297815055#step:8:952
[11:56] <Soni> it'll find the c (cross-)compiler just fine...
[13:29] <rastys> hello
[13:30] <rastys> I have problems with keypad on my netbook, I'm using 20.04 lts
[13:35] <rastys> keypad remain as scroll page instead move cursor
[14:22] <zor> Please command for Ubuntu?  'Link'
[14:23] <leftyfb> zor: what?
[14:23] <zor> I only know two commands
[14:24] <zor> sudo apt install
[14:24] <zor> sudo aptitude install ..
[14:24] <leftyfb> ah, you're "sima" from the other day
[14:24] <zor> ja
[14:24] <zor> yes
[14:24] <leftyfb> zor: what do you need help with exactly?
[14:24] <zor> hah
[14:25] <zor> apache2 I installed and working
[14:26] <zor> but
[14:27] <zor> i don't know how to have access www ?
[14:27] <leftyfb> zor: define access
[14:27] <zor> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[14:28] <leftyfb> zor: what do your logs say? Is the apache2 service running?
[14:30] <zor> It is no longer necessary to me  I just wanted to do that but I didn't make it
[14:32] <zor> The Spring Spring Server is no longer interested in Ubuntu
[14:32] <leftyfb> zor: ok, good luck
[14:33] <zor> The problem I don't know to use Ubuntu ?
[14:33] <leftyfb> zor: this is the same link I gave you 2 days ago: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/command-line-for-beginners#1-overview
[14:34] <zor> I use opensuse of 9.2
[14:34] <leftyfb> zor: let us know when you need help with ubuntu
[14:35] <zor> Thanks I was on all these sites I am an amateur ;)
[14:38] <zor> All Linux I only tried ubuntu doesn't suit me ;(
[14:39] <zor> leftyfb:  thank you :)
[14:43] <zor> I installed Ubuntu 23.10
[15:19] <impermanence> Kadigan: turns out I may be able to assign a public IP by giving verizon more $.
[15:19] <impermanence> I'm on hold with them right now for tier 2 support haha
[15:20] <impermanence> so...it *can* be done, but it might be the case that only business accounts can receive this feature. It may also take a month lol, which would totally negate the need for it.
[16:56] <adrian02993> should i use kubuntu instead of lubuntu??
[16:59] <rbox> adrian02993: flip a coin
[16:59] <CosmicDJ> adrian02993: dual boot both?
[17:00] <adrian02993> i'm serious!! i don't want to distrohop!! besides, kubuntu has native dark mode support and lubuntu doesn't
[17:00] <leftyfb> adrian02993: it's called a personal preference. Try them each and choose the one you prefer. Or ask take a poll in #ubuntu-offtopic and go with the one that has the most users on IRC at that time
[17:01] <adrian02993> alright thank you
[17:05] <toddc> lubuntu is a bit faster on older hardware but it really comes down to try it and find the one you like   most guides are based on Gnome it all depends on needs likes what you use it for
[17:41] <Soni> nvm figured things out
[18:13] <matei> yayyyyyytyyyy!!!!11!11!!!
[18:14] <matei> bahamat hi!!!!
[18:14] <matei> and b0b to!!!
[18:15] <leftyfb> matei: can we help you with something?
[18:15] <matei> thancks but no!!
[18:15] <leftyfb> !chat | matei
[18:16] <matei> wat the hell???
[18:16] <matei> hi bayangan!!!!
[18:17] <matei> hello B113!!!!
[18:17] <matei> and others!!
[18:18] <leftyfb> matei: this is a support channel. Feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:18] <matei> thanks!!!
[20:01] <tanja_> I'm sorry to ask but is there anything for me to do. I'm not sure why but after I ran apt upgrade on my ubuntu 22.04 server at home today then it looks something has fucked up systemd ( based on what I see as traces from journalctl ). There were no issues at all prior but after apt upgrade it has now started literally exiting the process when I use
[20:01] <tanja_> Tab to autocomplete like when want to autocomplete in /var or /etc etc
[20:08] <tanja_> at first I thought it was disconnecting me so tried then to run it in tmux and that were where I noticed it then exited tmux ( so killed the process ) and when I then also tried to update rkhunter ( installed it to look if the server were infected ) and there it then also killed the process.
[20:08] <tanja_> I see also that the log says that it has started saying "dbus-daemon[PIDXXXX]: [session uid=1000 pid=XXXXX] AppArmor D-Bus mediation is enabled" wich is weird since apparmor is removed since I dont use  it
[20:09] <JanC> what command(s) are you trying to autocomplete? and is it options or filenames or something else being autocompleted?
[20:10] <tanja_> just sudo cat /var/log/syslog and it does it allready at cat /va<tab> then it kills
[20:11] <CosmicDJ> what is killed? your shell?
[20:11] <tanja_> and faced it also with cat /et<tab> then the process is dying
[20:11] <tanja_> if im in tmux then tmux exits and if I'm just in bash then logged out
[20:12] <tanja_> so looks like the process that its called in
[20:12] <tanja_> so yes you could say the shell
[20:15] <CosmicDJ> you mentioned related journal entries, what do they say?
[20:15] <tanja_> just tried to do it with ls /ho<tab> for autocomplete /home and the shell does also die
[20:17] <tanja_> actually just noticed this one "systemd[1]: /lib/systemd/system/ramdisk-sync.service:5: Failed to parse service type, ignoring: oneshoot"
[20:21] <tanja_> and that is the only think there sticks out except it also says that systemd said it ran with apparmor even that apparmor is removed
[20:22] <JanC> apparmor is in the kernel
[20:25] <tanja_> ufff ohh and yeah one of the upgrades were kernel :/
[20:26] <JanC> also, it should be 'oneshot', not 'oneshoot' in that service file
[20:26] <tanja_> how do I then install a prior version?
[20:27] <tanja_> well copy pasted directly from the log since I have the ssh open with the log
[20:27] <JanC> what I mean is that there is probably a typo in that ramdisk-sync.service file
[20:28] <JanC> you should fix it & see if the problems persist then
[20:28] <tanja_> well I have not changed anything there and the only thing there has been done is the apt update and apt upgrade here today there broke everything :(((
[20:29] <JanC> you probably did reboot after?
[20:30] <JanC> maybe it only breaks things on boot...
[20:30] <tanja_> and where is that file then and would I risk it completely not starting up after
[20:30] <tanja_> Well I didnt do first since it were automated, but when I saw it had updated yeah I did reboot sincec I saw there were kernel in there
[20:31] <tanja_> and I have it like that when kernel and grub things are upgraded then I always reboot
[20:31] <JanC> your error message says where the file is
[20:35] <JanC> and as far as I can tell that file is not part of Ubuntu
[20:35] <JanC> so either you created it yourself, or something 3rd-party you installed did?
[20:35] <tanja_> but how do I recover the server :( :( :(
[20:35] <tanja_> Like just noticed that file is 3 years old and has always worked thats the service to save my ramdisk at reboot ( totally forgot that one ) thats for the ramdisk to plex to not wear to much out on ssd for transcoding
[20:36] <tanja_> that one were mine but that one is not the issue since it has always worked :( guess the server is dead then and all data lost
[20:36] <JanC> why would it be dead?
[20:37] <tanja_> Well kernel broke it THAT FUCKING KERNEL THAT UBUNTU PUSHED TODAY WITHOUT TESTING IT
[20:37] <tanja_> it kill sessions on purpose so unuseable
[20:37] <JanC> kernels are tested extensively before they are released
[20:38] <JanC> do you mean "Plex" as in the server management thing?
[20:38] <JanC> that's not officially supported, AFAIK
[20:38] <tanja_> YOU FUCKING DONT LISTEN UPDATED KERNEL TODAY AS IT WERE IN APT UPGRADE AND NOW ALL SESSIONS ARE KILLED FROM APPARMOR
[20:39] <JanC> but in any case, what you described doesn't really stop you from moving data off the server
[20:39] <tanja_> EVEN TRIED NOW TO SUDO TO ROOT AND EVEN THHAT KILLED THE SHEL
[20:39] <tanja_> SO YES ITS DEAD
[20:39] <CosmicDJ> RIP server
[20:39] <JanC> it's just scared because you keep yelling at it so loudly
[20:40] <elias_a> :)
[20:40] <JanC> I would kick you out too if I was your server
[20:40] <tanja_> YEAH YEAH YOU DRUG ADDICT KID JanC
[20:41] <CosmicDJ> I had some unpleasant moments with a tanja from .dk in #freebsd, wonder if they were the same person...
[20:43] <en1gma> i have ubuntu 22.04.03 updated as of today. when i use wxhexeditor i cant scroll down with mouse or even drag the scroll bar and it move the data. im new to wxhexeditor but i not sure where the problem is
[20:43] <en1gma> is it ubuntu or is it wxhexeditor or is it me
[20:46] <en1gma> im following a guide and thats what hes using to examine a .bin file. i could try another hexeditor but i dont want to install 799MB for binwalk
[20:47] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: do you use vscode? https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-vscode.hexeditor
[20:47] <en1gma> ah. im in ubuntu. does it work for linux too?
[20:47] <nobody1> hi
[20:48] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: snap or deb, see https://snapcraft.io/code / https://code.visualstudio.com/#alt-downloads
[20:48] <en1gma> CosmicDJ it looks nice
[20:48] <en1gma> let me try it. it looks similar to wxhexeditor as far as ui
[20:48] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: well it's from an evil corp, so don´t build your life on it
[20:48] <tanja_> even running sudo dpkg –list|grep linux-image does also kills the shell actually everythhing with sudo kills it
[20:48] <en1gma> :)
[20:49] <tanja_> so yes it is dead after that faulty ubuntu kernel
[20:49] <JanC> there is also ghex & a number of other hex editors, but they might all have different features
[20:49] <CosmicDJ> tanja_: you know, you could just boot an older kernel
[20:50] <tanja_> its a headless I have no access to grub exept from inside
[20:50] <JanC> you said it has Plex?
[20:51] <tanja_> so when it even kills all sudo commands even also sudo -i then I cant change grub kernel yes installed from their apt repo last updated weeks ago
[20:51] <CosmicDJ> tanja_: man grub-reboot
[20:52] <CosmicDJ> guess you have to use a serial console/hook up a screen/keyboard then
[20:52] <tanja_> CosmicDJ changing grub does require sudo again I cant change in reboot since its a headless pc
[20:53] <tanja_> the only access I have is ssh
[20:53] <JanC> and the web, I presume?
[20:54] <tanja_> JanC its a home server its not a vps its at home, but there is no posibility to get keyboard on it at this time
[20:55] <tanja_> but I am trying now to see if there is a way to format it without sudu
[20:55] <tanja_> and then find my unatended usb
[20:55] <JanC> if you can format it you can also fix it instead...
[20:57] <tanja_> well it depend because I have no sudo access sunce it kills the shell / process so it require a I find a way without sudo access
[20:57] <JanC> en1gma: I don't seem to have a problem scrolling in wxHexEditor?
[20:58] <en1gma> i cant even grab the drag bar and pull down
[20:59] <tanja_> bbl gonna try to reboot it again again and then my dns goes down ( so could lose connection )
[21:00] <CosmicDJ> en1gma: wild guess here: Xorg or Wayland?
[21:01] <Bardon> Hello, I would like to upgrade my laptop's internal SSD. I have a SATA to USB device. Could I boot on a liveUSB, then copy the whole old SSD into the new one, then swap them, and boot fine?
[21:01] <JanC> (I am on Xorg, and here it works)
[21:01] <Bardon> I mean, boot in a liveusb, with the old SSD in place, and the new one plugged in via USB
[21:03] <JanC> Bardon: an image copy of the whole disk should work if the new disk is at least as big as the old one, maybe expanding the partitions & filesystem afterwards if the new disk is larger
[21:03] <Bardon> It is larger (2 To vs 100 Go)
[21:04] <Bardon> JanC: What tools would you use? cp/rsync?
[21:05] <Bardon> I think I'd like to copy partition per partition instead of the whole disk as I'd like to set up a LVM
[21:05] <Bardon> So, for each partition: mount both the old one and the new one, rsync? Is that it?
[21:07] <toddc> Bardon: clonezilla
[21:07] <JanC> is there a reason why you can't do a new install?
[21:08] <JanC> and then copy your data over from the old disk?
[21:10] <Bardon> JanC: It's not my laptop and I thought it was easier to copy the whole thing as if I reinstall, there will be missing packages, and I'll get messages for days asking me to install that package or why such icon moved
[21:10] <Bardon> but maybe I'm wrong
[21:11] <Bardon> Or should I just mount the old partition, the new one and then just dd the old one into the new one?
[21:12] <Bardon> toddc: Can I set up a LVM from clonezilla?
[21:13] <JanC> you might also need some configuration (e.g. fstab & grub) changes related to adding LVM etc.
[21:14] <Bardon> Right
[21:14] <toddc> yes easy if the old drive is lvm but there is a option to partition by partition sio I think it can but that is a optiion I have not tried myself
[21:14] <JanC> and you can export a list of installed packages & re-install them all (might have to do that for each of APT, Snap, etc. whatever is used)
[21:14] <Bardon> toddc: The old drive isn't LVM sadly
[21:15] <Bardon> Ok, I'll just partition the new drive, then copy partition per partition with either clonezille or dd
[21:15] <Bardon> Then I'll see what breaks :)
[21:17] <toddc> Bardon: to safe I would set the drive lvm then copy the contents from partitions to the lvm partition  and cross your fingers but it should work
[21:18] <JanC> make sure to always copy from the old disk to the new one  :)
[21:18] <JanC> (having a back-up would be best too)
[21:19] <toddc> servers I like lvm and zfs but desktops/laptops I reccomend ext4 + a backup solution  (simplicity)
[21:27] <tanja_> okay got in as root now ( got it to sudo but still fails with autocomplete etc as the user with sudo permissions )
[21:34] <tanja_> how do I from within ubuntu tell grub to use the lower version just so I dont make it worse
[21:36] <CosmicDJ> 21:51 < CosmicDJ> tanja_: man grub-reboot
[21:45] <tanja_> CosmicDJ thank you exept looks like it didnt boot the prior version ( checked with uname -a ) gonna try again
[21:49] <loswedseded> after upgrading I got:  Canonical released microcode updates for both Intel (CVE-2022-40982) and AMD
[21:49] <loswedseded> # (CVE-2023-20593). ‘Unattended upgrades’ provide security updates by default. # Ensure it remains enabled to always get all updates as they become available.
[21:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Information exposure through microarchitectural state after transient execution in certain vector execution units for some Intel(R) Processors may allow an authenticated user to potentially enable information disclosure via local access. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-40982>
[21:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- An issue in “Zen 2” CPUs, under specific microarchitectural circumstances, may allow an attacker to potentially access sensitive information. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-20593>
[21:49] <loswedseded> I don't know how to proceed. What do I install?
[21:49] <oerheks> nothing, you got the latest.
[21:50] <loswedseded> how do you know?
[21:50] <loswedseded> notice that I didn't upgrade to 23.10, simply upgraded the system
[21:51] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2023-20593
[21:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu- An issue in “Zen 2” CPUs, under specific microarchitectural circumstances, may allow an attacker to potentially access sensitive information. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-20593>
[21:51] <oerheks> old.
[21:52] <loswedseded> i see
[21:52] <oerheks> and for microcode update version https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2022-40982
[21:52] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Information exposure through microarchitectural state after transient execution in certain vector execution units for some Intel(R) Processors may allow an authenticated user to potentially enable information disclosure via local access. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-40982>
[21:53] <loswedseded> do-release-upgrade returns: Checking for a new Ubuntu release... Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading. I've updated (apt) and upgraded (apt as well) and I still get that message. what do I need to update? snap?
[21:53] <tanja_> CosmicDJ unfortunately I have tried what it say in the man page to boot two other versions dpkg say are installed but every time the uname -a still says its running on the newest
[21:53] <tanja_> so looks like it doesnt choose the others at boot
[21:58] <tanja_> CosmicDJ so I'm starting to think it cant write to the environment block ( what ever that is  )
[21:58] <tanja_> "NOTE: In cases where GRUB cannot write to the environment block, such as when it is stored on an MDRAID or LVM device, the chosen boot menu entry will remain the default even after reboot."
[22:04] <tanja_> btw I have narrowed it down now to actually maybe something I havnt spotted in the logs only affecting my account ( maybe from the past ) because created a extra account and also added that to sudo and that does not have the issue
[22:13] <tanja_> for my case the issue / reason is found and temporary deactivated until I can get it fixed tomorrow
[22:14] <loswedseded> how can it be that sudo apt update + sudo apt upgrade gives me a different list of packages to install than sudo synaptic? Synaptic tells me I need em, command line suggests I don't need em. what gives?
[22:15] <rbox> !phasedupdates
[22:15] <tanja_> and apoligize everyone in here it were a issue there never would pop up in the logs an never given it a thought
[22:16] <loswedseded> do you guys default upgrade or smart upgrade?
[22:19] <bodom> Hi there! Is there a way to disable fake snap packages in apt? I see this issue is getting worse on every release and now it is starting to become annoying
[22:20] <rbox> if you're unahppy with the packages in ubuntu, you can use another dist...
[22:21] <oerheks> there are no fake snap packages in apt, there are apt packages that pull in a snap version.
[22:21] <tanja_> CosmicDJ and JanC the issue were actually a corrupt script file for my bash functions and for some reason even it didnt exit on loading of .bashrc it still were the cause ( having a bad habbit to use set -e for scripts to end at error and by habbit also putted that in the functions files )
[22:22] <bodom> rbox: well, that's a solution indeed
[22:22] <bodom> oerheks: yup, i mean those packages
[23:02] <anaru> Good Afternoon
[23:10] <yin> good morning
[23:11] <anaru> good morning yin or afternoonm
[23:12] <anaru> what you upto
[23:21] <anaru> Kia Ora kotou katoa


[02:12] <eddyTV> I don't have any udev rules configured, so it's just being automatically configured based on matching a line in lib/modules/5.0.0-36-generic/modules.alias...
[02:15] <eddyTV> (unless I'm misunderstanding how hardware is discovered and its module get loaded in recent kernels... which is entirely possible)
[02:23] <eddyTV> I like the idea of adding a custom udev rule though. I'll see if I can add something like ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="module", KERNEL=="e1000e", RUN+="ip link set eno1 up" and maybe that will work
[11:51] <fling> Where do I get 5.4 shiftfs patches?
[11:51] <fling> eoan?
[13:05] <sforshee> fling: our 5.4 tree is currently git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/unstable, will move to focal once 5.4 is in focal-proposed
[13:10] <fling> how do I clone it properly if I already have linus tree and eoan tree?
[13:32] <fling> sforshee: are there only 20 patches needed?
[13:48] <sforshee> fling: I don't know the exact count
[13:50] <sforshee> fling: actually unstable is missing a couple that eoan has, so eoan currently has the most up-to-date version
[13:50] <sforshee> they're probably on the list waiting to be applied
[13:50] <sforshee> so probably better to get the patches from eoan atm
[13:52] <fling> ok
[13:58] <sforshee> fling: upon closer inspeection shiftfs is the same in eoan and unstable, eoan just has a patch and a later revert of that patch which is missing from unstable
[13:58] <sforshee> so taking shiftfs from either should give you equivalent results
[13:59] <fling> eoan is missing enable-overlayfs-on-shiftfs.patch
[14:00] <fling> thanks
[14:00] <fling> Is it fine to use zfs 0.8.2 with 5.4 ?
[14:02] <sforshee> fling: not sure which was the first version compatible with 5.4, we've currently got 0.8.2-3ubuntu1 in focal which does work with 5.4
[14:02] <sforshee> so based on 0.8.2, but it may have extra patches for 5.4 compatibility
[14:03] <fling> good news!
[14:03] <fling> sforshee: how can I check which extra patches are applied?
[14:04] <sforshee> fling: if you download the source package then extra patches should be in debian/patches
[14:05] <fling> Not sure how to do so, I'm an ubuntu noob
[14:05] <fling> I'm building things on gentoo, could install ubuntu to a container
[14:06] <sforshee> if you do that then 'apt-get source zfs-linux' will download the source package, you'll likely have to uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get update' first though
[14:07] <fling> ok
[14:08] <fling> do I need eoan?
[14:08] <sforshee> you'll want focal, likely eoan's version doesn't work with 5.4
[14:10] <sforshee> you might just try 0.8.2 first, and if it doesn't work then look at focal's patches
[14:10] <fling> I believe it works
[14:10] <fling> I just want to use it properly :P
[14:42] <fling> sforshee: ubuntu people are trolling me, can't get the package :P
[14:45] <sforshee> fling: you can always download the files manually, you'll need the .orig.tar.gz, .debian.tar.xz, and .dsc files from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/0.8.2-3ubuntu1, then run 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc'
[14:46] <fling> thanks
[15:18] <fling> I found nothing related there.
[15:31] <sub526>  As per https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html , i understood that a manual intervention is required in order to capture the memory for 'machine exceptions' or ‘Hardware Failures’. What exactly ‘manual intervention’ means? And how to get the crash dump in case of  'machine exceptions' or ‘Hardware Failures’?