[00:00] <OerHeks> gskellig, maybe you want to checkout the #bumblebee channel too
[00:00] <Celso> gskellig, stick with bumblebee because with vgaswitcheroo, i can't alternate from intel to ati.
[00:00] <xius> is there anyone around that can help me install 12.04 onto my mac? I'm experiencing some issues I haven't seen in any tute.
[00:00] <gskellig> Celso, I'm confused, isn't that the point? That you can switch back and forth
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Do you understand what happened now?
[00:01] <pamela> hi can eny one know program "gnome disk utility" ? I have install it but i cant see my hardrives there
[00:01] <blunted> Xius ask away no idea if help can be given
[00:02] <Celso> gskellig, well, it is but hybrid graphics on linux is curently problematic. in theory, vgaswitcheroo should work but for now, i didnt found yet a solution.
[00:02] <xius> when I ran the installer, it encountered an error when installing grub, so I decided to restart my mac holding "alt" so I could boot into OS X again
[00:03] <xius> except, the only disk it showed availible to load was "Windows" which I had not seen before
[00:03] <blunted> Gskellig, this doesn't work right windows yet and its nvidia.  I wish you the new of uck
[00:03] <jhutchins_wk> xius: Try thatl refit may have mistaken it.
[00:03] <xius> rEFIt didn't even load.
[00:03] <gskellig> I'm not really interested in the "hybrid" as much as I am just being able to switch between one or another
[00:04] <gskellig> I don't mind doing it manually, I want my laptop on the integrated graphcis 90% of the time anyway
[00:04] <Celso> gskellig, for me, to be able to use intell i need to use sleep 6 comand on /rc.local file  but if i dont use that command, i am not able to switch it
[00:04] <gskellig> ah gotcha
[00:04] <L3top> gskellig: I assume you are on an ati hybrid?
[00:04] <roasted> Well that's fun. I have my server running with two mirrored drives via mdadm. To test a fault, I powered it off, unhooked one drive, and booted up. I said y to boot degraded and things worked fine on a single drive. So, I powered back off, plugged in the other hdd, powered up, and now it's booting up degraded each and every single flipping time. Nice.
[00:05] <gskellig> no L3top nvidia
[00:05] <daftykins> roasted: sounds epic
[00:05] <gskellig> Nvidia GT218M
[00:05] <roasted> it pretty much is
[00:05] <roasted> never hadt his happen before
[00:05] <Celso> gskellig : yes, ati 5000 series+ intel hd3000
[00:05] <L3top> gskellig: you want bumblebee
[00:05] <blunted> Xius are you doing a dual boot or standard load
[00:05] <Celso> gskellig : but mst of time i use intel.
[00:06] <xius> both produce the same result
[00:06] <L3top> no
[00:06] <Celso> gskellig : by the way, did the brightness link worked?
[00:06] <xius> "Missing operating system"
[00:06] <gmulak_> Is anyone here going to SCaLe 11x?  So Calif Linux Expo at the LAX Hilton?  Here? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x
[00:06] <L3top> I am
[00:06] <gskellig> Celso, I'm waiting for a minute because I read that installing a different nvidia driver might work
[00:06] <L3top> re SCaLe
[00:06] <gskellig> going to try that first then try your link. It's bookmarked =P
[00:06] <Celso> oh ok
[00:06] <Celso> no problem
[00:06] <gmulak_> L3top:  cool - I will be at the Ubuntu booth
[00:07] <daftykins> roasted: never used it if i'm honest, but are there any status utils you can try to see if it's even trying? or something to run to 'provoke' it?
[00:07] <L3top> gskellig: there is only one solution worth seeking with nvidia hybrid... bumblebee
[00:07] <L3top> gmulak_: I will be there under LinuxMCE
[00:07] <roasted> daftykins: I have no idea. I ran cat /proc/mdstat and I can see it thinks /dev/sdc is missing. However, blkid shows sdb and sdc are there and active.
[00:07] <Celso> true L3top
[00:07] <blunted> Xius what error on installing grub
[00:07] <gmulak_> L3top:  What is LinuxMCE?
[00:08] <L3top> !linuxmce
[00:08] <xius> just said it couldn't install on the selected drive
[00:08] <L3top> lol
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Blind mice Linux
[00:08] <histo> L3top: What makes you think every sector was overwritten by windows?
[00:08] <L3top> gmulak_: linuxmce.org
[00:08] <histo> L3top: specifically anything in the ubuntu partition was overwritten by windows for that matter
[00:08] <gmulak_> L3top:  let me check it out....
[00:08] <blunted> I assume normal MBR install
[00:08] <Celso> gskellig : for more info check this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[00:08] <L3top> histo it isn't an issue of sector overwrite exactly... if you would like to discuss this in depth hit ubuntu-offtopic...
[00:09] <Celso> gskellig : in the middle of the page you will see about nvidia cards
[00:09] <histo> L3top: are you going to join?
[00:09] <daftykins> roasted: how frustrating. i'm glad i run with hardware controllers at times :>
[00:10] <roasted> daftykins: one hardware controller was all it took to jump that ship bro :D
[00:10] <daftykins> haha
[00:10] <roasted> daftykins: I've had boards fry and taken my mdadm RAID'd drives into a completely different system, installed mdadm, and had my array running on totally different hardware.
[00:10] <daftykins> i've had a few 3wares
[00:10] <daftykins> liked 'em all
[00:10] <L3top> No histo... I am not. Nor are you going to provide a source. Your position is, however, off topic.
[00:10] <histo> L3top: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_carving
[00:10] <histo> L3top: NOTICE THE ABSENSE OF FILESYSTEM PART
[00:10] <daftykins> roasted: that's pretty good
[00:10] <gmulak_> L3top:  That is sooo cool  Mobile computing.  I have to check that out.
[00:12] <Celso> ok. time to go. bb all
[00:12] <L3top> gmulak_: it is beyond the scope of ubuntu support to explain what we are. You are free to /join #linuxmce for a discussion on what we are.
[00:12] <histo> L3top: Also from what Sara describing what happened. She didn't even overwrite any of the vfiles on the ubuntu partition. That data was most likely untouched on the drive.  The partion was deleted it was dual partitioned at the half way point of the disk.  Then windows created a parttion and installed to the begining of the desk where it was originally. Not even touching the second half of the disk
[00:13] <L3top> histo... this is a support channel... you can come complain at me in #linuxmce too.
[00:13] <L3top> I AM there.
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Wow I wish I were an admin here.
[00:13] <gmulak_> L3top:  I think I get it, thanks.  I will join it later - thank you.
[00:13] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: inorite
[00:13] <histo> L3top: I'm not complaining. I'm just trying to help you understand so you can stop telling people that their files are gone when they are infact not.
[00:13] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: though kicking never helped anything ;)
[00:14] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: There are admins here.
[00:14] <gmulak_> L3top:  Have to run erands now. bback later....
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> I know.
[00:14] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I'm using the netflix for Ubuntu app and WINE tells me to install Mono and Gecko, it's best if I install the package for my distro, what packages should in install??
[00:14] <pamela> mageia
[00:14] <L3top> I await your link to show how to recover an ext4 partition overwritten by a factory restore of windows. I know how to read.
[00:14] <L3top> until that happens... this is an off topic discussion
[00:14] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: that netflix thing pulls them all in as needed
[00:15] <L3top> and I dont have time for off topic
[00:15] <histo> L3top: She didn't want to recover the parttion just the files
[00:15] <L3top> source
[00:15] <Sara_> ok im back i was frozen can you send me a messege america..
[00:15] <L3top> again... this is not what this channel is for
[00:15] <histo> I already explained that the partition was gone but the files aren't.
[00:15] <L3top> you win
[00:15] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis, so...I don't have to do anything?
[00:15] <L3top> better?
[00:15] <frowni> Is there anyway to remove unity ?
[00:15] <L3top> Off topic
[00:15] <frowni> I cant get used to it
[00:16] <L3top> !nounity
[00:16] <histo> frowni: you can uninstall it. Or just switch de's
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> frowni: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity ]
[00:16] <Sara_> Im back send me a message please
[00:16] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: i dident have to
[00:16] <histo> Sara_: A message about?
[00:17] <L3top> fix her histo.
[00:17] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis, well ok then.  Thanks you :)
[00:17] <L3top> I will await your success
[00:17] <L3top> You cannot use the word because.
[00:18] <histo> Sara_: Are the files that were on your ubuntu partition worth the time to attempt to recover? ex: jpgs oo docs etc....
[00:18] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: are you catching the messages from Sara_ above?
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins, I did.
[00:18] <daftykins> ok :)
[00:19] <L3top> histo... why would her arbitrary evaluation of worth matter? Sounds like backing down from the challenge to me.
[00:19] <gmulak_> frowni:  Yes there is, but I don't remember the command.  Even better, it goes back to Gnome!  It's slick.
[00:19] <Brewster> is there a suggestion box of some sort for ubuntu?
[00:19] <L3top> I should probably log off this chan. I am off topic
[00:19] <gmulak_> frowni:  sonikkuamerica has it I think
[00:19] <histo> L3top: because scanning the unallocated space on her drive will take overnight most likely
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> frowni: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity ]
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> There it is again.
[00:20] <histo> L3top: if the files are trivial to her she maynot wan't to waste the time.
[00:20] <OerHeks> Brewster, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[00:20] <Brewster> ty
[00:20] <L3top> This is off topic histo. I am feeding at this point. Ignore me.
[00:20] <frowni> i did it SonikkuAmerica  :) thank you. now installing gnome-shell
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: i'm partly amused you're still on this but mostly horrified.
[00:20] <roasted> Question - is it a bad idea to have an ext file system on your hard disks BEFORE you add them to a mdadm array?
[00:20] <histo> daftykins: Sara just asked for a message? I'll ignore her if you want.
[00:21] <daftykins> histo: is it one of those - i need to go to bed but WAIT! Someone is WRONG on the INTERNET! moments?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh hallowed Internet. :P
[00:21] <magma> hi, I just want to allow ssh connections to my machines through key authentications. How can I do that, disable passwords?
[00:21] <histo> daftykins: well I know i'm right and I hate for someone to lose files that are important to them.
[00:22] <daftykins> histo: roger that.
[00:22] <histo> Sara_: Did you boot off of the live cd?  Also do you have an external drive we can recover files to.
[00:23] <hplc> talking of live cd, how well does "hirens boot cd" do in comparison to other distros?
[00:23] <magma> How can I disable authentications with password to my machine via ssh?
[00:23] <OerHeks> hplc hirens boot cd is illegal
[00:24] <histo> hplc: not really a distro but a group of tools I thought.
[00:24] <hplc> OerHeks, it is? :s
[00:24] <Hamtechperson> Hey, can someone help me with installing Wine?
[00:24] <roasted> That's the first I ever heard of this.
[00:24] <OerHeks> hplc use UBcd instead, it has all the tools too
[00:24] <histo> magma: edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:24] <Ben64> magma: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530
[00:24] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get remove wine
[00:24] <hplc> OerHeks, thanks
[00:24] <magma> thanks
[00:25] <Ben64> histo: that does not install wine...
[00:25] <histo> Hamtechperson: sorry installing thought you typed uninstalling
[00:25] <histo> lol
[00:25] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:25] <gmulak_> bb for now
[00:25]  * histo eyes are blurred with rage.  jk L3top
[00:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Heck, use UBCD
[00:25] <histo> heath: What is it that you want to accomplish with HBCD?
[00:25] <Hamtechperson> Ok, any repositories to add?
[00:26] <histo> hplc: like what is your goal with it?
[00:26] <Ben64> Hamtechperson: you could add the wine ppa, find it at winehq.org
[00:26] <histo> !info wine | Hamtechperson
[00:26] <histo> Hamtechperson: just make sure universe is enabled
[00:26] <hplc> histo, just came to mind that i often find it useful to have a toolset on cd just in case i really need them
[00:26] <Drumroll> I'm having a hell of a time
[00:27] <Ben64> hplc: offtopic, but i use TRK a lot
[00:27] <histo> hplc: well having a ubuntu cd bootable is pretty usable. You can install any tool in the repos and use it to fix.
[00:27] <Hamtechperson> Quantal is 12.10?
[00:27] <Drumroll> How do I download a package and all of its dependencies onto a USB?
[00:27] <Drumroll> I've been googling it for a while
[00:27] <histo> !releases > Hamtechperson
[00:27] <Drumroll> keryx did not work for me
[00:27] <OerHeks> !offline
[00:28] <Drumroll> thank you ubottu
[00:28] <OerHeks> Drumroll, i would choose apt-on-cd
[00:28] <Drumroll> is that appropriate for just a single package and its dependencies?
[00:28] <histo> Drumroll: apt-get with the -d option will download only
[00:28] <Drumroll> I was under the impression that apt-on-cd would install a lot of packages
[00:28] <Drumroll> someone said you have to do it from a clean install
[00:28] <Hamtechperson> I'll need a precise version.
[00:29] <histo> Hamtechperson: precise is 12.04
[00:29] <Hamtechperson> That's what I have.
[00:29] <histo> Hamtechperson: okay then why do you need it still?
[00:29] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll need a precise version... O.o
[00:30] <Hamtechperson> I was late to the 12.04 party, wanted the LTS.
[00:30] <histo> Hamtechperson: did you just say that's what you have?
[00:30] <histo> Hamtechperson: You aren't making any sense.
[00:31] <L3top> Hamtechperson: can you please provide an actual support problem? In enough detail on one line, that will provide me understanding enough to help you?
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !circles
[00:32] <histo> When will then be now?
[00:32] <Hamtechperson> Best way to install Wine on 12.04.1.
[00:32] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:32] <L3top> +1 histo
[00:33] <Hamtechperson> Ok.
[00:33] <histo> Hamtechperson: Oh I see you got confused by the response from ubottu. Yeah ignore that. quantal part. I was just showing you that wine was in universe
[00:33] <histo> !info wine precise | Hamtechperson
[00:33] <histo> Hamtechperson: Is that better?
[00:33] <Hamtechperson> Yeah, that was what had thrown me.
[00:34] <memand> Is there something in bash that represents any integer?
[00:34] <Ben64> Hamtechperson: and newer versions are available with a ppa
[00:34] <Hamtechperson> PPA?
[00:34] <escott> i cant get gdb to attach to a process. I have changed the value of /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0 and have tried running sudo gdb ./myprogram. neither works
[00:34] <Ben64> !ppa | Hamtechperson
[00:34] <histo> !ppa | Hamtechperson I would only use them if the default doesn't work
[00:35] <dr_willis> memand:  i thought bash only did ints..  but you may want to douvbke check in #bash  i haventg scripted in bash in ages
[00:36] <Hamtechperson> Hash bash?
[00:36]  * SonikkuAmerica facepalms
[00:36] <dr_willis> Hamtechperson:  irc basics.... channel names start with a #
[00:37] <escott> ahh nevermind
[00:37] <memand> thanks :)
[00:37] <Hamtechperson> I know. It's just how things read. It was slightly humorous.
[00:40] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  Repeat question from earlier today (I had to step away).  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[00:40] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[00:43] <dr_willis> ive seen systems (bios's) that swap hds around. so that whatever hd boots.. becomes sda.  that would mean when you boot the win8 drive directly its sda. but when grub boots it from the 2nd hd.. it would become sdb..  that might confuse windows..   (not sire if this IS the issue. but ive seen that issue)
[00:46] <phoenixsampras> hellowzor
[00:49] <OerHeks> dr_willis, should UlyssesGa set boot on the 2nd drive and run update-grub to change the windows entry /
[00:49] <OerHeks> ?
[00:50] <dr_willis> OerHeks:  he could try.
[00:50] <dr_willis> but hes allready ran update-grub to get grub on the hd.. i dont think the entry will change
[00:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[00:53] <UlyssesGa> Yes - I did run update-grub.  Further details- I was running Win7/Ubuntu but then upgraded to Win8.  Win7/Ubuntu (in the configuration noted above) functioned OK.
[00:54] <_porque> Hello world!
[00:55] <david_> hello all
[00:56] <UlyssesGa> here's the link to the boot-repair output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591745/
[00:56] <aaas> i have a headless server and I have this annyong problem that periodically the computer does not reboot because grub no longer countsdown...anyone experience this before..I've had this problem for the last several versions  a grub-update sometimes fixes it but I have no idea why it does this periodically
[00:57] <david_> I want to intstall ubuntu on my machine. My machine has two hard drives. onw with mint and one with windows. Whitch install option should I pick so that I can still launch into windows to linux depending on the drive
[00:57] <david_> ?
[00:57] <_porque> I have this code: https://github.com/gerep/opengit/blob/master/.opengit I want to be able to accept options when calling it, like opengit -m file.dat
[00:57] <_porque> can someone please tell me how?
[00:57] <david_> 'I hvae that set up this way now with linux mint
[00:57] <david_> works fine
[00:58] <david_> in other words dual booting but with seperate drives. Just want to know the right install option to pick, ef "install alongside " ect.......
[00:59] <UlyssesGa> bbl...
[01:00] <david_> in other words dual booting but with seperate drives. Just want to know the right install option to pick, eg "install alongside " ect.......
[01:00] <roasted> hello friends. Any mdadm experts?  But it comes up each and every time as degraded. I expected that it would slide back into working mode but the 2nd drive isn't cooperating. Thoughts?
[01:03] <somsip> _porque: you would be best adding an issue to github repo, or asking in #bash if you want advice on coding in bash script
[01:03] <tripelb> I can't understand the grub2 tutorial. I would like someone to help me. PC machine. LiveCD cannot find any OS's. Grub can but....
[01:04] <vish> Hi
[01:05] <vish> I am unable to find the enable wireless option in my system..
[01:05] <vish> I tried to install wicd... But it dint go through..
[01:05] <tripelb> Fish it's on by default.
[01:06] <vish> Not in my case :(
[01:06] <tripelb> Vish it is on at startup, by default. If all works it just connects.
[01:07] <vish> I installed ubuntu on my new laptop it worked fine.. When i installed on my old laptop it is giving this prob..
[01:07] <roasted> tripelb: I've used this guide in the past, for what it's worth - http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[01:07] <tripelb> Vish I am suggesting that the problem is not in the turning the wireless on- sofgware on off switch.
[01:08] <tripelb> Roasted, will look. I was stumped at grub rescue (and no one here responded) and do not know how it got what looks like npbetter. OK looking at link.
[01:09] <roasted> tripelb: I never bothered with grub once I hit the grub rescue menu. I always restored via liveUSB/liveCD like that link suggests.
[01:16] <xxiao> is there a way to list all ubuntu server release packages?
[01:16] <Revaski> Hello, I have a problem with running Ubuntu(12.10 &12.04) on my PC(AMD Athlon 64 x2 2.5GHz; Asus M2N4-SLI; 2GB RAM). It always freezes and forces me to reboot the PC.
[01:24] <Miebster> When I plug in my iphone 5 into my macbook pro retina 10,1 with ubuntu 12.10, I get a modal dialog box that says "unable to mount iphone" the okay button doesn't work, the close button doens't work, there is no window title.  Any thoughts on what this is or how to fix it?
[01:25] <god> hello
[01:26] <jbas> Hi
[01:26] <jbas> I am trying to understand what is happening with the Skype for Linux
[01:27] <Guest97420> i was wondering if there is any good programs to run that will help videos buffer faster and play better
[01:27] <jbas> I just installed and after 5 min, shutdown
[01:27] <somsip> jbas: how did you install?
[01:28] <jbas> I just downloaded from skype web site
[01:28] <histo> jbas: dunno you'd have to ask them.
[01:28] <somsip> jbas: maybe best to use the version in the repos if you're having problems. I think you have to enable the partners repo list
[01:28] <histo> jbas: see if you can file a bug or something.
[01:29] <jbas> Sorry, but I am new in Linux
[01:29] <nathan_> can anyone help me with wifi drivers for my W530?
[01:29] <jbas> What is Repo List?
[01:29] <Guest97420> i have plash aid and download helper, can anyone tell me if there is something that will make videos buffer faster?
[01:29] <somsip> jbas: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:29] <Guest97420> *flash
[01:29] <jbas> 12.04 LTS
[01:30] <tylerwoodward> Is it safe to remove everything in Not Installed (residual config) or would it mess something up?
[01:30] <somsip> jbas: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:30] <jbas> 64
[01:31] <somsip> jbas: remove the downloaded version you installed and follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[01:31] <joshts> hello
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> skype is easy, ive just installed 10 mins ago
[01:32] <joshts> i have a question
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> download it from skype.com, dpkg -i skype.deb
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> apt-get -f install
[01:32] <arbit30719> Hi every one
[01:33] <graves> guys
[01:33] <graves> huge problem
[01:33] <graves> my pc
[01:33] <graves> (1.9 ghz, 4 gigs ram)
[01:33] <graves> won't run MC on xubuntu
[01:33] <arbit30719> I have face some problem deploying juju with MAAS
[01:33] <FloodBot1> graves: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <phoenixsampras> got Windows ?
[01:33] <graves> (minecraft)
[01:33] <arbit30719> the detail is shown in http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[01:33] <graves> mc gets five frames
[01:33] <phoenixsampras> omg... another Minecraft lad
[01:33] <graves> it got 50 on vista
[01:33] <joshts> i am trying to get videos to buffer faster, is there something i can do to help?
[01:33] <graves> pheonix, get over yourself
[01:33] <somsip> !enter | graves
[01:33] <jbas> SOMSIP. Thank you very much. I will try
[01:33] <graves> !enter
[01:33] <graves> ?
[01:34] <graves> I need help
[01:34] <phoenixsampras> maybe in #minecraftfans ?
[01:34] <graves> when mc crashes, it leaves this hs_err_pid1843.log:
[01:34] <somsip> jbas: there are reported problems with skype sometimes, but highly recommended to start with the ubuntu package rather than the deb. YMMV for other users
[01:34] <arbit30719> can somebody help me ?
[01:34] <jbas> Great.! Thank you very much
[01:35] <jbas> Bye Folks and thank you!
[01:35]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[01:36] <phoenixsampras> the skype .deb worked fine for me by years
[01:36] <somsip> phoenixsampras: As I said, YMMV for other users
[01:36] <joshts> does anyone have any tips on how to speed up buffering time?
[01:36] <phoenixsampras> YMMV? you moda ..... ?
[01:37] <somsip> phoenixsampras: Your Mileage May Vary. It means it's not always the same for everyone and it's intended to prevent people popping up saying 'But it worked/didn't work for me'
[01:37] <phoenixsampras> oh i see
[01:38] <arbit30719> Hello guys
[01:40] <bashnoob> Can someone here point me to a good guide for booting a Live session of Ubuntu (or any linux distro really) from a USB drive on a Macbook running OSX 10.8 (Mountain Lion)?
[01:41] <bashnoob> ah hell im in unreg arent I?
[01:41] <bashnoob> Stupid macbook not knowing my reg handle.
[01:41] <dcope> anyone running 12.04 on a carbon x1? curious as to driver support and battery life.
[01:41] <dcope> i'm about ready to unload my macbook air
[01:42] <NotIronic> I've noticed when I do an ls -l some of the permissions end with an @ or a + what do those mean?
[01:42] <dcope> NotIronic: + for executable
[01:43] <NotIronic> you could have an executable directory in Linux?
[01:43] <dcope> sorry, brainfart
[01:44] <NotIronic> dcope:  no prob.. here's a sample of what I see:  drwxr-xr-x@
[01:45] <janderson91z> hey guys, could i possibly get some help?
[01:45] <janderson91z> i have an amd 4850 and want to install the catalyst 13.1 drivers for legacy cards so i can download steam and play tf2. is version in jockey 13.1?
[01:46] <NotIronic> ah, looks like it's specifically for my version -- thanks anyway
[01:47] <phoenixsampras> what version?
[01:47] <janderson91z> i'm on 12.04
[01:48] <arbit30719> can some body help me solve juju and MAAS problem
[01:48] <arbit30719> I have also posted on ask ubuntu
[01:49] <arbit30719> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[01:51] <Guest34347> hello, I am trying to get youtube videos fired up but get a message 'could not load shockwave player'. I installed ubuntu-restricted extras, but no luck. Also, I get this message when I do an update on my computer: http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[01:51] <NotIronic> phoenixsampras: I'm using Mac OS X and Ubuntu 12.04 (VM).. I saw this is OS X
[01:52] <NotIronic> forgot which box I was working on for a second there since I've been using SSH between the systems
[01:52] <phoenixsampras> NotIronic: ok
[01:53] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, what browser are you using?
[01:53] <Guest34347> chrome
[01:53] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Chrome
[01:54] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, where does the message pop up?  In a message bar at the top of the window?
[01:55] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Yep, just below the addy bar
[01:55] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, I know this one seems obvious, but have you tried restarting the browser?
[01:55] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, I restarted the whole freaken 'puter
[01:56] <_helios_> ubuntu has got to be the coolest OS ever.
[01:56] <Guest34347> what about this issue: http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[01:57] <bravis> oi
[01:57] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, do you have Flash Player installed?
[01:57] <Guest34347> I did run apt-get update, the same issue pops up
[01:57] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Does ubuntu-restricted-extras not do that?
[01:58] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, Adding restricted-extras to your sources allows you to download additional packages not supported by connonical, it doesn't automatically install anything for you thoguh
[01:59] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, Open up the software center and search for Adobe Flash
[01:59] <arbit30719> can some body help me solve juju and MAAS problem : I have also posted on ask ubuntu  http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[02:00] <LikePuzzle> My ubuntu 10.04 is without sound.. Any device? Is KDE!
[02:00] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you need to install Adobe Flash plugin
[02:01] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, What do you make of this? http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[02:01] <josesierra> hi guys.  So, I'm trying to install Sublime text editor right...?  I can get the app running, but how do I get the app into my gnome menus..?  Am I even in the right channel to ask this question?
[02:01] <josesierra> (I'm using gnome shell)
[02:02] <nomodeset> I've tried to install ktechlab, but when I run ./configure I have: hecking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:02] <nomodeset> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[02:02] <nomodeset> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:02] <penguinman> josesierra, look into alacarte
[02:03] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you have duplicate entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:03] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, do you want to fix it using the software center or manually with the terminal?  I haven't used Lubuntu in a log time so I don't know what else is available to you
[02:04] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Command line, baby
[02:04] <Miebster> I tried to update my boot loader, grub asks me what to boot, I select ubuntu, and then just a blank purple screen.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591988/
[02:05] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, open up a terminal and enter: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  (no quotes)
[02:05] <LikePuzzle> How can I fix a sound problem in the ubuntu 10.04?
[02:06] <dr_willis> !alsa
[02:06] <nomodeset> !mint
[02:06] <nomodeset> !irc
[02:06] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, that will bring up the file that lists all of the software repositories available to your system in a terminal-based text editor called nano
[02:07] <JokesOnYou77> Guest343
[02:08] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, The lines that start with a # are commented out and not read by apt. All you should have to do is comment out those duplicate lines.  If they're not there is one other place to look as well, but it's unlikely
[02:08] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, http://pastebin.com/LH5q0wSY
[02:10] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, unless you're not finished installing your system or you always run with the disk in for some reason you should comment out both of the lines with the cdrom
[02:15] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, I just installed flash through the synaptic thingy, should I do a reboot?
[02:15] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:15] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, according to the command line I already have adobe flash plugin
[02:15] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:16] <Guest34347> latest and greatest
[02:16] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:16] <Guest34347> "could not load shockwave flash" wtf?
[02:17] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you shouldn't have to reboot.  Windows makes you reboot all the darn time because it has to make changes to protected system files and such, unless you're changing drivers you rarely have to reboot in ubuntu
[02:17] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, what do you mean according to the command line?
[02:18] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, restart chrome and then in a new tab go to chrome://plugins
[02:18] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:19] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:19] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:20] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:20] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:20] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:20] <LikePuzzle> NewUbu, What is your machine?
[02:20] <NewUbu> ubuntu 10.12
[02:20] <NewUbu> the latest one
[02:21] <LikePuzzle> 12.10? Just search for keypad and change the configurations!
[02:22] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  In 11.10  Disable mouse hover function of Oneiric Oeclot .  On the top right of your desktop, click on your name  Click “System settings”  Click “Universal access”  Click “Pointing and clicking” tab  Set “Hover click” to “OFF”
[02:22] <NewUbu> yes. 12.10
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> I'm using a Sabrent usb-snd8 sound box
[02:23] <rob___> is there a way to easily purge the entire ubuntu-desktop in 12.10 in favor of another DE?
[02:23] <LikePuzzle> NewUbu.. More detail the fella post upthere!
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> but the headphone jack for it doesn't seem to work
[02:23] <NewUbu> got it.
[02:23] <dr_willis> !purekde
[02:23] <rob___> thanks ubottu
[02:23] <NewUbu> thanks gmulak1
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> the sound just plays out the laptop speakers
[02:24] <NewUbu> and <LikePuzzle>
[02:24] <dr_willis> not sure how acutate those guides are for 12.10 rob___
[02:24] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Do you have your name in the top right hand corner?
[02:24] <NewUbu> no but i went to the system setting
[02:25] <NewUbu> I have 12.10
[02:25] <NewUbu> it does not have the name in the top right
[02:25] <NewUbu> but in the bar on the left I have system settings
[02:25] <NewUbu> the rest was similar to what you said
[02:26] <gmulak1> newUbu:  Are you running Unity desktop or Gnome?
[02:26] <_porque> is someone here thats a boss in bash scripting?
[02:26] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:26] <dr_willis> _porque:  people in #bash are
[02:27] <LikePuzzle> NewBu, The name is optional. You can access the seetings clicking on the wheel on the corner top left of screen!
[02:27] <_porque> dr_willis, thanks ;)
[02:27] <NewUbu> dono... how can i check that
[02:27] <pertinate> Could I get some help mapping a mouse key to another mouse key using xbindkeys?
[02:28] <gmulak1> Do you have a little gear in the top right hand corner of your computer screen?
[02:28] <dr_willis> yea - top RIGHT = a system menu ;)
[02:29] <gmulak1> NewBu:  Look for the system menu.  You can even type it into search
[02:29] <NewUbu> yes
[02:29] <pertinate> Could I get some help mapping a mouse key to another mouse key using xbindkeys?
[02:30] <dr_willis> pertinate:  what have you done so far with it?
[02:30] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Did you find systems settings?
[02:31] <bravis> woot
[02:31] <pertinate> dr_willis: I have the code down, I just don't know how to call the middle mouse clicking function when I press the extra key on my mouse.
[02:32] <NewUbu> ye
[02:32] <NewUbu> yes
[02:32] <NewUbu> but in the bar on the left
[02:32] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Yes what?  If you found system settings than click universal access
[02:34] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Doesn't really matter where, it could be placed differently in dif desktops.    Did you find the system settings menu?
[02:38] <NewUbu> I fixed it with your initial comment
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> I took my laptop apart and replaced the video cable. Now my wifi is blocked and I can't remember how to unsoftblock it
[02:38] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  You are good!  thanks.
[02:38] <folorn> does anyone got time to help me resolve this error please  ive got something running in the software center but the process is refusing to quit any ideas how to kill it?
[02:38] <NewUbu> i though you wanted to know what distro <I was using
[02:39] <NewUbu> i asked how can i find that out
[02:39] <folorn> because ive tried reboots shutdowns nothing seems to kill it
[02:39] <NewUbu> :)
[02:39] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  No problem.  I thought you were stuck.  lol
[02:39] <NewUbu> but still thanks for the help
[02:39] <NewUbu> highly appreciate it
[02:39] <jerry_l> hello room
[02:40] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  No prob.  Are you going to SCaLE?  So. California Linux Expo on Feb 22?
[02:40] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, what process? it might be a child of another process, so the parent is restarting it
[02:40] <tripelb>  roken ubuntu installer soea not see any paeritions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk
[02:40] <folorn> its stuck on applying changes !!
[02:41] <NewUbu> unfortunately can't... just started a new program at Uni
[02:41] <NewUbu> in toronto
[02:41] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  I understand.  It looks like it's going to be good.  I am going to be at the Ubuntu booth.
[02:42] <NewUbu> wish i could make it
[02:42] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:42] <folorn> any ideas seven_six_two
[02:43] <folorn> any ideas then seven_six_two?
[02:43] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Perhaps next year.  Always in Feb.
[02:43] <phoenixsampras> RocketLauncher: use chrome?
[02:44] <NewUbu> will keep that in mind
[02:44] <NewUbu> thanks again
[02:44] <jerry_l> i want to set up ubuntu 10 as a media server for a bunch of xp computers. " http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324 " asus rock, amd-e240, sata3, ddr3, 1gbLom, $60.00
[02:44] <tripelb> Broken install: ubuntu installer does not see any partitions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk -l then > sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt  Which said that 'LVM2_member is an unknown filesystem type
[02:44] <RocketLauncher> phoenixsampras: >Using Chrome
[02:44] <jerry_l> i have 4 2TB HDs
[02:44] <RocketLauncher> nope
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, ubuntu 10.04 I presume?
[02:45] <jerry_l> longterm 10?
[02:45] <phoenixsampras> thats a lot of pr0n
[02:45] <jerry_l> :) porn
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, 10.04 is LTS
[02:45] <designbybeck__> I'm not saying I'm Lazy!... I'm just wondering how I can login to the other ubuntu machine acrsso the room that is plugged into the same router I'm on wifi with? If i wanted to browse or use it's files and such?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, FYI latest LTS is 12.04 ...
[02:45] <RocketLauncher> jerry_l: as a porn expert, how do you feel about implants
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !ot
[02:46] <jerry_l> ...
[02:46] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, oh you were installing something?
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> cfhowlett: Autism
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> i'll ask my question then
[02:46] <tripelb> i have been on this over a week.
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:46] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, I don't know why it would be stuck. You said that it's like that after a reboot too?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, I think the VNC function would do that ...
[02:47] <designbybeck__> cfhowlett:  so I just setup VNC on both machines?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, yes.  One to "dial out" and one to "accept call".  Forgive the imprecise verbiage, but you get the concept?
[02:48] <jerry_l> i have to go to home depot for a big shelf. any comments about ubuntu 10 or 12 as a better headless media server for a bunch of XP machines?
[02:48] <jerry_l> i will read when i get back. AFK.
[02:48] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, 12.04
[02:48] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, but also post this query is #ubuntu-server
[02:48] <jerry_l> my girl says hers are all natural and very nice. :)
[02:49] <jerry_l> ubuntu-server cool will go.
[02:49] <gmulak1> :-)
[02:49] <jerry_l> afk
[02:49] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, vinagre comes with all ubuntu version if I'm not mistaken ...
[02:50] <designbybeck__> never herad of it cfhowlett.... I'll look into it. Thank you
[02:50] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, that
[02:50] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, that's the VNC launcher
[02:51] <folorn> ya seven i dunno what to do its locking me out of the Var folder so i can't even update stuff
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> is there a chat for ubuntu server?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> phoenixsampras, ironically enough #ubuntu-server  :)
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> phoenixsampras, #ubuntu-server
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> thanks
[02:54] <phoenixsampras> im so bored
[02:54] <hatake> hy how to fix this  chroot . /bin/bash = groups : cannot find name for group ID 19
[02:54] <hatake> can help my
[02:54] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, can you see the software center window on the screen? what's the process called?
[02:54] <tripelb> i need help. i have the web page, follow instructions and got stuck. problem is a Broken install: ubuntu installer does not see any partitions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk -l then > sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt  Which said that 'LVM2_member' is an unknown filesystem type
[02:54] <phoenixsampras> brasero is hung...
[02:55] <phoenixsampras> wont let me burn again
[02:55] <tripelb> lvm was invoked in error
[02:55] <cfhowlett> tripelb, can you see that lvm partition?
[02:55] <folorn> its called applying changes while doing so it crashed plus ive got quite afew broken packages dunno how to repair them as well
[02:56] <cfhowlett> tripelb, start over, delete the lvm and install as normal
[02:56] <phoenixsampras> help Brasero aint responding
[02:56] <tripelb> this has been over a week, grub-human please emerge for me.
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> stupid brasero
[02:57] <ChaozHenchman> how do you install sound drivers in ubuntu 12.10?
[02:57] <tripelb> cfhowlett: how do o do that? gparyed cannot see anything. fdisk can (so sorry for ignorance)
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> alsamixer/.
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> ?
[02:57] <cfhowlett> ChaozHenchman, you mean for a hardware device?  sound card?  what?
[02:58] <ChaozHenchman> sabrent usb-snd8
[02:58] <folorn> so i take it no idea then seven_six_two?
[02:58] <ChaozHenchman> usb soundbox
[02:58] <folorn> think anyone else could help with killing a process please ?
[02:58] <cfhowlett> tripelb, if this an ubuntu only machine?  restart your installation, wipe/format the hdd and then install.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> folorn, kill -9 process
[03:01] <folorn> thanks cfhowlett lemme see if it works
[03:02] <tripelb> i have a windiws partition too. cfhowlett ans an nt recovery. i
[03:02] <cfhowlett> folorn, kill -9 PID   (process identification number)
[03:02] <gskellig> Can someone help me get nvidia drivers working
[03:02] <folorn> how can i view the process's again?
[03:02] <tripelb> cfhowlett: reading man fdisk
[03:02] <gskellig> they are not showing up in additional drivers
[03:02] <cfhowlett> tripelb, OK.  reboot the installation media, delete that LVM partition
[03:03] <folorn> how ya list all of the process's running?
[03:03] <ulkesh> folorn: ps -ef
[03:04] <folorn> thanks ulkesh
[03:04] <ulkesh> np
[03:05] <mikehaas763> Hello. I noticed in Win 7 when using keyboard shortcuts to align a window to say the right half of my screen, if I keep doing it will move to my other monitor (I have dual screen). Is there a similar functionality in Ubuntu?
[03:05] <tripelb> how? cfhowlett gparted sees no partitions at all. i just checked.
[03:05] <mikehaas763> I guess any kind of keyboard shortcut to move a window to my other monitor would be awesome
[03:08] <folorn> here's a vpaste of the processes running on the box atm any ideas then which i should kill?
[03:08] <folorn> http://vpaste.net/RcUpD
[03:09] <ulkesh> folorn: what's stuck again?
[03:10] <cfhowlett> ulkesh, updates ... see the bottom of the image
[03:10] <gizmobay> df -h will tell me my temp size?
[03:10] <gizmobay> tmp
[03:10] <ulkesh> cfhowlett: good call :)
[03:10] <somsip> gizmobay: du -h /tmp
[03:11] <ulkesh> folorn: update-notifier (4141) or python /usr/lib/software-properties/softwa (4962) would be my guess
[03:11] <folorn> ya its stuck in like the updateing part wont let access to my updater
[03:12] <folorn> i kinda was thinking the same 1sec
[03:12] <gizmobay> ls -al what is the units for the file size? Kb or MB?
[03:12] <ulkesh> folorn: i sometimes see the updater look like it's stuck, but actually it's simply wanting some input on the "command line" of it (where you expand the details of what's going on)
[03:12] <ulkesh> folorn: usually during the configuration phase of some update/new install of an app
[03:13] <tripelb> dear cfhowlett i have deleted it. when man was no help i googled ...
[03:13] <cfhowlett> tripelb, fingers crossed
[03:14] <folorn> ya it liked asked for my pw but then lagged and quit out during it
[03:14] <tripelb> cf now gparted still sees no partitions at all
[03:14] <fresno> waz going on room
[03:14] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett, not even your windows parts?
[03:14] <tripelb> cfhowlett:  now gparted still sees no partitions at all
[03:15] <fresno> windows 7 suxs
[03:15] <ulkesh> folorn: also look at this one:  root      4155  4037  0 20:26 pts/6    00:00:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 14 --configure -
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> can anyone think of a reason that generating an 8192-bit SSH key would be practical?
[03:15] <folorn> well wtf
[03:15] <tripelb> cfhowlett: no means no. i refreshed devices.
[03:15] <folorn> yes that was one as  well it was giving a error before the install
[03:15] <RocketLauncher> It looks like i have NO FONTS. I can select them but it shows no preview and it doesnt work. Profont is the only font that works and that's probably because I manually installed it myself.. how do i get everything back
[03:16] <fresno> zorin is good liunxs
[03:16] <Drumroll> i want to make a live USB for my brand new PC build
[03:16] <ulkesh> TheLordOfTime: to require a computer a gazillion years of something to do by trying to brute-force crack it? :)
[03:16] <tripelb> cfhowlett: for a while i was stuck in grub rescue, then i reinstalled windows xp and afterwards got a choice at boot.. but nada from gparted
[03:17] <folorn> finally got it
[03:17] <Drumroll> checked it ahead of time for compatibility drivers-wise, but got rev 1.1 with new network card
[03:17] <ulkesh> folorn: sweet, which one?
[03:17] <folorn> thanks you guys ..any ideas how to repair
[03:17] <folorn> that dkg deal
[03:17] <Drumroll> My network card is not supported by the kernel, but there is a package.
[03:17] <Drumroll> Anyway to create the USB with that package installed. so that the netowkr will work??
[03:17] <tripelb> Fresno  xp
[03:18] <fresno> boot usb stick
[03:18] <folorn> ulkesh now it will update again lol woot thanks alot
[03:18] <TheLordOfTime> ulkesh:  heh
[03:18] <codepython7771> how do i test the speed of my network using a ssh login? Both incoming and outgoing? Is there a tool to do this?
[03:18] <ulkesh> folorn: oh sweet, i hope it stays happy!
[03:18] <fresno> to make boot usb stick
[03:18] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  what kind of package?
[03:19] <Drumroll> package: linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-precise-generic
[03:19] <tripelb> cfhowlett: i need to switch debices brb
[03:19] <fresno> brb
[03:19] <Drumroll> + dependencies
[03:19] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  and its in the repos?
[03:19] <fresno> rbr
[03:20] <zykotick9> codepython7771: test or monitor?  bmon is a terminal network monitor.  no idea on "test".
[03:20] <Drumroll> dr_willis: yes its in the repo
[03:20] <Drumroll> would install with apt-get install package_name
[03:20] <Drumroll> BUT without network, that's not an option
[03:20] <Drumroll> I would like to download updates as I install as well
[03:20] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  issues ive seen with live  usbs are that if you apt-get install kernel and drivers.. they may not get used by the live setupo
[03:20] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  a full install would let you install them however.
[03:21] <dr_willis> but a full instal on usb.. wont let you install to other systems
[03:21] <Drumroll> Ok so I should install first, then download the packages onto USB later and install them manually
[03:21] <Drumroll> i dont want to install ON usb, just from
[03:21] <Drumroll> I was hoping to install the drivers with the OS
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Drumroll, use the DVD iso, install THEN update
[03:21] <fresno> UNetbootin
[03:21] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  and that woul dbe a live usb.. and from what ive seen.. you dont  just install new kerneles/drivers on a live usb and expect them to work.
[03:22] <Drumroll> got it
[03:22] <fresno> ok
[03:22] <tripelb> Flannel I have partitions I do not want to overwrite
[03:22] <fresno> ok
[03:22] <Flannel> tripelb: So, you don't know which ones they are then? or what?
[03:22] <dr_willis> ive had issues in the past with live-usbs where you insstall for example a newer kernel. or nvidia drivers.. well they get stored in the persistant save file.. but the system cant boot from them
[03:22] <fresno> do u got a windowz t
[03:23] <fresno> do u got windos 7
[03:23] <cfhowlett> fresno, think he said he's got XP  :)
[03:23] <dr_willis> you may need to remaster your own live setup
[03:23] <fresno> do u got windos 7
[03:24] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  or do a full install to a 8gb usb. install what you need.. then clone the usb to the hd of the system you want to install on.   ;)
[03:24] <folorn> is there anyway to check and see if your wireless driver is up to date?
[03:25] <fresno> are u new to liunxs
[03:25] <cfhowlett> folorn, if it works?  Also, enable backports will capture, well, backports.
[03:25] <dr_willis> !backport
[03:26] <xorox90__> is there any default log(connection ip, time .. etc) on ubuntu? should I install additional program?
[03:26] <Drumroll> dr_willis : can I do a full install to USB using unetbootin? or different method?
[03:26] <dr_willis> !u | fresno
[03:26] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I have to mount something to update grub  it says. Since I have no idea I am going to try to fix grub. I am a bit in the dark. There's a web page roasted suggested..   http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[03:26] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  that wouldent be a full install..
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !grub|tripelb,
[03:27] <tripelb> That's where I was when we started
[03:27] <cfhowlett> tripelb, OK.  Take you time.  I had multiple grub headaches when I was triple booting ubuntu/windows/osx but it can be done.
[03:28] <Drumroll> dr_willis would I need ... two usbs, or a usb and a DVD?
[03:28] <tripelb> cfhowlett: been there no help. That's when roasted came in some hours ago. Took me a while to read the page and see what applied, sadly it didn't.
[03:28] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  yep.. one to install from to a usb...
[03:28] <fresno>   do u got windoes 7
[03:28] <dr_willis> fresno:  do you  have an actual ubuntu support question?
[03:29] <fresno> usb boot program
[03:29] <fresno> n
[03:29] <cfhowlett> tripelb, Assume that your windows and ubuntu are actually installed.  Just need to configure grub correctly.  I made the mistake of reinstalling multiple times.  Ultimately, it was  an easily fixed grub issue
[03:29] <fresno> windos 7 usb boot
[03:29] <tripelb> cfhowlett: roasted it is my fault. I said install and didn't realize that *I* had to make a swap partition. I was trying to replace an Ubuntu partition and if messed me up.
[03:29] <janderson91z> can someone tell me how to open the catalyst control center? i have the drivers installed and working, but i don't see the icons in 12.04 and when i type in the terminal "gksudo amdcccle" nothing happens
[03:30] <fresno> if u all need help hit me up
[03:31] <dr_willis> fresno:  im not sure anyone has  unstood anything you have said in the last half hour.
[03:31] <tripelb> cfhowlett: windows is installed. Ubuntu is not. In fact there is no longer a partition there. NT is installed. I used that to run a dell "check your hardware" way back over a week ago when I was given this old underpowered computer.
[03:32] <tripelb> I booted to that partition
[03:32] <cfhowlett> tripelb, old computer?  OK.  Try this.  Stop with the ubuntu and install lubuntu or xubuntu.  Both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.
[03:33] <folorn> is there a way to do that ?
[03:34] <fresno> zliunxs is good
[03:36] <dr_willis> folorn:  do what? ive missed somthing.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> tripelb, had a thought: if this machine has NT, then I assume it was configured as a server, which would explain why it defaulted to the LVM, i.e. server, partitioning scheme.  Start over, wipe all the buntu partitions, leave the windows partitions in place.
[03:37] <Drumroll> is a swap partition always necessary?
[03:37] <Drumroll> If I understand correctly, swap partition comes into use when ram is maxed out. What if you have 16GB ? Can you go without?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> Drumroll, only if you want to be able to suspend/hibernate
[03:38] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  i got no swap on my desktop box
[03:38] <dr_willis> 8gb ram.. just hope you dont run out of ram ;)
[03:38] <zykotick9> Drumroll: wap CAN be used when ram is maxed, but it's used more often to move non-used stuff out of physical memory.  with 16GB you can certainly get away without swap, but it will be slightly slower (see "/msg ubottu swap" for more details)
[03:39] <janderson91z> can someone help me get the amd catalyst control center to open?
[03:40] <Coded1> I'm running a FX-6100 @ 3.2GHz, Vertex 3 120GB SSD, 16GB PC1600 system on 13.04.  Why is software centre so slow?  I click to install one app and it greys out the window for about 40s and remains unresponsive for another 30s.  Clicking to install subsequent packages takes even longer.
[03:40] <dr_willis> try running it as  user janderson91z ? if theres no error messages..  not a lot we can really debug.. guess you coud run the debugger    gdb on it as it runs
[03:40] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I may have misspoken, not a server. Reading more on the web, I just did  >lsb-l /Dev/disk/by-label
[03:40] <tripelb> Noooo
[03:41] <dr_willis> Coded1:   13.04 in #uubntu+1    -- its in testing... so expect issues
[03:41] <dr_willis>   #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <janderson91z> run it as user as in just type in amdcccle in the terminal?
[03:41] <janderson91z> says command not found
[03:41] <janderson91z> is that not what it's called? amdcccle
[03:41] <dr_willis> janderson91z:  i  have no idea what its called
[03:41] <dr_willis>  try amd<tab>
[03:42] <cfhowlett> tripelb, noted.  still if this box was running NT, I'd say x/l/ubuntu are the way to go ...
[03:42] <Coded1> dr_willis: the release you run has no such problems?
[03:42] <dr_willis> Coded1:  never really noticed it being slow.. i tend to use the cli tools...
[03:44] <janderson91z> well
[03:44] <Coded1> same here but mostly because it's faster than the gui, which on a decently quick system that I'm using kinda sucks
[03:44] <janderson91z> in synaptic it says i have fglrx-amdcccle installed
[03:44] <janderson91z> so i tried running it with that name
[03:44] <janderson91z> and same story, nothing happened. sorry, i'm new to actually using the terminal lol
[03:44] <dr_willis> janderson91z:  check the  'properties' of tghe package. and see what path it has to what files
[03:45] <Coded1> janderson91z: the command is 'amdcccle'
[03:45] <janderson91z> it says command not found
[03:46] <janderson91z> here are the file locations
[03:46] <janderson91z> http://pastebin.com/Xma4Ldw9
[03:46] <Coded1> should be in /usr/share/ati/amdcccle
[03:46] <Coded1> or /usr/bin/amdcccle
[03:46] <proto> trying to use a bootable usb to install ubuntu on my laptop, reformatted the HDD and now it says 'Image failed to verify with *ACCESS DENIED*. Press any key to continue. and then powers off when I press a key
[03:47] <Drumroll> is there any reason not to use LVM ?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> proto, image?  iso image?  presumably you verified the iso integrity with md5sum??
[03:48] <proto> cfhowlett how do I do that?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|proto,
[03:49] <Coded1> proto: check the permissions of the image.  Is it owned by your user?
[03:49] <proto> cfhowlett, I can't even get to terminal
[03:50] <proto> Coded1, I'm not sure, I used Universal USB Installer, is there a way I can check that on my windows desktop?
[03:51] <janderson91z> well i found out it's located in /usr/share/ati and i am in that directory
[03:51] <proto> Looking through BIOS, does AHCI affect it? BIOS tells how it affects windows installations, but not linux
[03:51] <janderson91z> however when i type in amdcccle it says command not found, yet the file is clearly there when i type LS
[03:51] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I may have misspoken, not a server. And I clicked LVM by accident.  Reading more on the web, I just did  >lsb-l /Dev/disk/by-label  And my result shoed only 3 things now, not the 5 disk shows. They are, backup ..../sda4 which disk callsHPFS/NTFS/exFAT  And DellUtility..../sda1 Which fdisk calls the same.  And Ubuntu\x2012\x20LTS\x20i386   .../sr0 (sic)  which could be swap.  Meanwhile, XP is on /Dev/sda3 which fdisk callsW95 Ext'd
[03:52] <tripelb> cfhowlett: that was a bear to type
[03:52] <Coded1> proto: my bad if it's during the install then it's not your windows computer (not likely).  Try booting off the usb key and select verify image (or what ever the closest option is)
[03:52] <proto> cfhowlett, Coded1, I have a windows 8 laptop, and it looks like bios had some secure boot setting enabled, disabled that, rebooting now
[03:52] <cfhowlett> tripelb, no doubt.
[03:52] <tripelb> Random NOTE
[03:53] <cfhowlett> proto, proceed carefully.  secure boot weirdness ...
[03:53] <proto> cfhowlett, Coded1, secure boot was the problem, looking at desktop now.
[03:53] <proto> thanks for the help =D
[03:53] <Coded1> proto: ya that's likely it.  After the format it will try to install a GPT / MBR.  Secure boot will thwart that
[03:53] <cfhowlett> proto, smile son.  Have a beer.
[03:53] <proto> I'll have a glass of milk, going to bed now. =D
[03:54] <Coded1> better yet send some money to the "buy Coded1 beer foundation"
[03:54] <proto> rofl
[03:54] <Coded1> it goes to a good cause
[03:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Coded1
[03:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Hate to say it but...
[03:54] <Coded1> ouch
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Legalism: Gets me through the day!
[03:55] <Coded1> !ot|SonikkuAmerica
[03:55] <Coded1> ;)
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[03:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey Maxx__!
[03:56] <Maxx__> Ummm Hey.
[03:57] <folorn> anyone know how to repair broken packages from the terminal?
[03:57] <Coded1> janderson91z: can you run the file from the directory?
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Try [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[03:58] <hexacode> anyone know the opposite of modprobe -r  ?   i need to remove a module but then ill need to put it back...anyone know how to? also, does modprobe -r only remove the module until next reboot, or permanently?
[03:58] <Maxx__> Is anyone having trouble logging into ubuntu?  I did updates today, and now cannot get past the login screen
[03:58] <penguinman> hexacode, just modprobe by itself
[03:59] <hexacode> thanks
[03:59] <janderson91z> coded: that's what i was doing
[04:00] <folorn> okay 1sec sonikkuamerica
[04:00] <tripelb> cfhowlett: now reading http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/
[04:00] <dartos> Can anyone tell me why I keep getting this IO error "INPUT OUTPUT ERROR ON READ /DEV/SDA" when I try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a. It is not a bad HDD I have run many MANY SMART tests and they all come back okay. Any ideas?
[04:00] <Coded1> janderson91z: what happens?
[04:02] <Coded1> dartos: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[04:02] <zykotick9> dartos: file system corruption possibly?  have you tried fscking it?
[04:02] <Coded1> dartos: is it a SSD?
[04:02] <dartos> I am not amazing with linux so bear with me. What is dmesg and no I don't know how to fschk :$
[04:02] <folorn> sonikkuamerica you wouldn't happen to know if theres a way to see if  a wireless driver is up to date?
[04:02] <dartos> no it's a HDD with a windows and ubuntu partition
[04:02] <janderson91z> coded1: actually i just went into that directory in nautiluls and all i see is files named 'amdcccle_cs.qm and such
[04:02] <dartos> the windows partition works fine
[04:03] <Coded1> dartos: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit" paste the url here
[04:03] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: AFAIK drivers are updated via the package system.
[04:03] <dartos> oh dmesg is a command :D okydokey
[04:04] <janderson91z> Coded1: ok, i found the correct directory with the two legit amd catalyst control center icons. when i click on either (regular or administrative) it says Details: Failed to execute child process "amdcccle" (No such file or directory)
[04:05] <dartos> the dmesg was larger than 500 kbs -_-
[04:05] <coolspot> How do I make a WiFi hotspot in 12.04 using WPA, not WEP?
[04:05] <folorn> k
[04:05] <dartos> Coded1: it was too big for pastebing :(
[04:05] <tripelb> cfhowlett: that's too old sends me to fdisk, so I looked at man parted and going -l tells me --- can't have overlapping partitions. Oh I made the Ubuntu and the swap. I could have done it wrong. This is the first bit of meaning I see.
[04:06] <tripelb> Anyone here repartitoned with parted ? I seem to have overlapping partitions.
[04:06] <dartos> Coded1: it is basically this error over and over again http://pastebin.com/yKTNQQqT
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: Why parted... as opposed to gparted?
[04:07] <tripelb> Is /xev/sr0 where grub goes?
[04:08] <dartos> zykotick9: I am runnin fsck on /dev/sda .. it's says superblock invalid
[04:09] <lauratika> how can i check the ink levels?
[04:09] <dartos> lauratika: thats more of a driver thing than an ubuntu thing. What printer do you have?
[04:09] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica: gparted sees no partitions. That's the problem. fdisk does but is not for large partitions. Hence parted.
[04:10] <Coded1> dartos: can you paste the output of 'smartctl --all /dev/sda'
[04:10] <Coded1> smartctl --all /dev/sda | pastebinit
[04:10] <dartos> Coded1: it's not installed... I can't use apt-get because of the whole dpkg thing
[04:10] <dartos> But I ran smart tests with the disk utility and they all came back OK
[04:11] <coolspot> Why is WPA hotspot/adhoc disabled in 12.04?
[04:11] <Coded1> dartos: are you running a laptop?
[04:11] <dartos> Coded1: nope
[04:12] <dartos> Coded1: I had fedora running on here before but I decided to swtich.. more stable updates
[04:12] <dartos> Coded1: or so I thought -_- I remember 11.04 worked fine
[04:12] <Coded1> dartos: not sure if this will help but in your bios try to enable AHCI and disable any power saving options
[04:12] <tripelb> Should fdisk be listing /dev/sd0 ? Because it is not.   <-- basic idea need to clarify
[04:13] <dartos> AH
[04:13] <dartos> all of the sudden it found windows 7??
[04:13] <Coded1> dartos: apparently there was a problem with some distros where the HDD was parked too quick
[04:13] <dartos> Coded1: parked?
[04:14] <Coded1> dartos: power saving features will tell the drive to stop spinning and bring the needle to rest (park).  If that happens when the kernel isn't expecting it you get ... errors ;)
[04:14] <dartos> Coded1: I'll check if that's on during reboot
[04:14] <dartos> But I don't think it is
[04:14] <kerf> test
[04:15] <kerf> screen -d
[04:15] <kerf> woops
[04:15] <dartos> Coded1: NOW I can install the nvidia drivers and have a whole other mess to clean up -_-
[04:15] <dartos> I'll be back after reboot
[04:15] <Coded1> dartos: good luck
[04:16] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica:  I need to retire for the night. I thank you for your attention. NN
[04:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Okie-dokie.
[04:18] <Drumroll> How do I install these packages offline?
[04:18] <Drumroll> How do I resolve the dependencies I mean
[04:19] <Drumroll> For example: how do I resolve this message: "Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>"
[04:19] <Drumroll> sorry linux-headers-3.5.0-22
[04:19] <Drumroll> how do I fix that
[04:20] <Coded1> Drumroll: can you download that package on a different computer?
[04:20] <Drumroll> Coded1: yes
[04:21] <Coded1> Drumroll: download it and install it with "dpkg -i linux-headers-..."
[04:21] <dartos> Coded1: Okay so I don't have that option but apparently if I just want the error goes away for that process... idk
[04:21] <Drumroll> Coded1 thanks, I will hop on linux and brb
[04:22] <Coded1> Drumroll: actually wait
[04:22] <Drumroll> ok
[04:22] <dartos> Coded1: but do you, by chance, know how to install the nvidia drivers? I tried installing linux-source and linux-headers-generic then the nvidia-current-updates package but nothing seems to work
[04:22] <g0rs> Does anybody use gedit ? Can you please include line numbers feature in the editor in next version of gedit?
[04:22] <laurus> How do I connect a Nexus 7 running Ubuntu to my Ubuntu computer via USB cable?
[04:22] <Coded1> Drumroll: try installing the package with "apt-get install --simulate packagename"
[04:23] <Coded1> dartos: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: 12.10.
[04:23] <zykotick9> g0rs: gedit has line numbering already?
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: I hearded after I installed it about the nvidia drivers problem -_-
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: sorry for saying hearded... I feel stupid
[04:23] <Coded1> lol np
[04:24] <dartos> It has been a long day of trying to get drivers working
[04:24] <dartos> I love these IRCs though the people are so helpful :D case in point Coded1
[04:24] <Coded1> dartos: when you say it doesn't seem to work what do you mean?
[04:24] <Drumroll> I am trying to install my atheros 8161 network drivers, linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-18.2_amd64.deb is what I found suggested via google, but couldn't find that package. Found linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-22.28_amd64.deb | "apt-get install --simulate linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-22.28_amd64.deb"??
[04:24] <dartos> Coded1: low resolution and unity no loading
[04:24] <Coded1> the "buy beer for coded1 foundation" is always open :)
[04:24] <dartos> Coded1: actually in my last try it didn't look like X loaded at all
[04:24] <Coded1> lol
[04:25] <dartos> lol
[04:25] <dartos> I have the "feed my hungry wallet" trust
[04:25] <Coded1> always a good thing to have
[04:25] <Drumroll> I will be right back
[04:25] <dartos> Coded1: if only problems == money
[04:26] <dartos> Coded1: but back to topic. Do you happen to know what to do? Does  that x-swat repo actually work or... idk
[04:26] <kunji> dartos: They do, they just need to be other people's problems :P
[04:26] <dartos> kunji: lol... thats true... but then money is spend solving your own problem
[04:27] <Coded1> sudo apt-get install --simulate build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:27] <dartos> kunji: plus you always end up having more problems than others... but with a smaller apartment... makes no sense...
[04:27] <lauratika> dartos: sorry... didnt read your. is a epson nx130... it works fine is just to chek ink levels
[04:27] <dartos> Coded1: ill give it a shot
[04:28] <Tdog676> how do i download a c complier for ubuntu?
[04:28] <dartos> lauratika: check epson's site to see if they have drivers for linux
[04:28] <Coded1> dartos: sorry that was for someone else
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:28] <dartos> Coded1: oh okat :(
[04:28] <Tdog676> tks dartos
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: np
[04:28] <kunji> dartos: I thought gcc was included?  just not g++?
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: I think that also gives you a debugger
[04:28] <dartos> kunji: It wasn't in fedora... idk if it is here
[04:29] <Coded1> dartos: try "sudo lsmod | grep nvidia"
[04:29] <dartos> Coded1: nothing
[04:29] <dartos> btw what is the difference between su and sudo?
[04:29] <Coded1> dartos: try "sudo lsmod | grep nouveau"
[04:30] <dartos> Coded1: yeah things... I know thats the driver i'm on now. It works fine... just not for steam :(
[04:30] <kunji> dartos: I have it, and I know I haven't installed it
[04:30] <dartos> kunji: have what?
[04:30] <kunji> dartos: gcc
[04:31] <Coded1> dartos: k, try "sudo apt-get remove --purge nouveau"
[04:31] <dartos> kunji: ah... I like gcc when I have an IDE to go with it
[04:31] <dartos> Coded1: WHY? that is the only thing keeping my video alive
[04:31] <Coded1> dartos: lol, that's also keeping your nvidia drivers from loading... try "apt-get install jockey-gtk"
[04:32] <kunji> dartos: I actually don't know of any C or C++ IDE that I like, I do like some syntax highlighting though, so I usually use gedit.
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: codeblocks is nice
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: small and functional
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: also someone started maintaining devc++ again... i never liked it though... then there is emacs :D
[04:32] <dartos> Coded1: no package nouveau
[04:33] <kunji> dartos: yuck, yuck, and yuck, to each his own though.
[04:33] <dartos> kunji: i have become dependent on auto-complete
[04:33] <Coded1> dartos: did you install 'jockey-gtk' ?
[04:33] <dartos> kunji: I havn't really used C++ for much besides Qt as of late. I have been loving haxe and monogame... I usually only make games though
[04:33] <dartos> Coded1: downloading
[04:34] <Coded1> k
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: actually I tried jockey on another intall of 12.10 (this is the 3rd one) and it failed at the driver install
[04:34] <Techeavy> Has anyone installed ubuntu 13?
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: and from what I have seen it failed on all 12.10...
[04:34] <laurus> How do I connect a Nexus 7 running Ubuntu to my Ubuntu computer via USB cable?
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: but I'll try again if you want
[04:35] <zykotick9> !13.04 | Techeavy
[04:35] <kunji> Techeavy: Future releases are not supported here.  I would tell you the room where they are... but I forgot the name of it.
[04:35] <becom33> is there a way to link in android to keep a log of the installed applications in my machine and reinstall them automatically after I reinstall ubuntu ?
[04:35] <becom33> like in android *
[04:35] <dartos> Coded1: I installed it.. but when I run jockey-gtk it doesn't run... strange
[04:35] <kunji> Techeavy: Oh, nvm, zykotick9's got it covered :P
[04:36] <zykotick9> !clone | becom33
[04:36] <becom33> !automate
[04:37] <threex5> could someone explain to me how there could be broken repositories in synaptic that don't appear in sources.list?
[04:37] <gskellig> I was trying to fix my nvidia drivers, and now when I login I just get a desktop and a mouse. Unity/gnome are gone
[04:37] <gskellig> I can get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 though
[04:38] <dartos> Coded1: it doesn't look like jockey is going to work... should I install the additional drivers thing from the software center>
[04:38] <Coded1> dartos: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/to-do-list-after-new-installation-of.html
[04:38] <Techeavy> Ok thanks guys.
[04:38] <Coded1> dartos: ya they stopped using jockey apparently
[04:38] <Maxx__> I can't even get a desktop
[04:41] <fas> What would cause my server to not log me in as myself when loggin in via ssh?
[04:41] <dartos> Coded1: they have a built in jockey now 0.o
[04:41] <dartos> sir you are amazing
[04:41] <fas> After a reboot, I log in via ssh
[04:41] <gskellig> aha! i fixed it
[04:41] <gskellig> still have nvidia problem though
[04:41] <gskellig> can anyone help me with bumblebee?
[04:41] <dartos> Coded1: applying changes... lets see if this fixes it
[04:41] <fas> But I still need to 'su user' to my user to get my user
[04:43] <sulit> heloo
[04:43] <sulit> hello
[04:43] <sulit> everyone
[04:43] <dartos> I am going to try restarting lightdm... for teh lulz
[04:43] <sulit> o,yeah
[04:43] <dartos> 80% sure thats a bad idea
[04:43] <Maxx__> Hello
[04:43] <sulit> I want to use it
[04:45] <Coded1> dartos: your best off rebooting
[04:45] <Maxx__> I'm using 12.04 and cannot get past the login screen.
[04:45] <dartos> Coded1: yeah i see that
[04:45] <Coded1> proprietary drivers are fickle beasts
[04:45] <fas> Maxx__: what's it saying is wrong?
[04:45] <dartos> Maxx__: did you type in your password?
[04:45] <Maxx__> Yes, I did.
[04:45] <dartos> Maxx__: was it the right one?
[04:46] <dartos> Maxx__: you are not giving us much to work with here... sorry
[04:46] <dartos> Coded1: X didn't start
[04:46] <Maxx__> Yes.  When I tried typing the wrong one, it simply highlighted the box and allowed me to re-enter the password. When I enter the right one, it goes off the login screen for a second then comes right back
[04:47] <kunji> fas: Have you checked that all is as it should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?  Also you can run ssh more verbosely to figure out exactly what is happening.
[04:47] <dartos> Coded1: I need to manually startx... and it doesn't look like unity is starting either
[04:47] <fas> kunji: thanks for answering, I just looked at it and nothing seems different
[04:47] <dartos> -_- if conical keeps messing ubuntu up like this people will never switch
[04:48] <fas> kunji: when I log in via ssh, it asks for my username, then I give it and I have the pubkey auth. Then I get a terminal but it's not normal
[04:48] <fas> I use oh-my-zsh but I just get normal zsh
[04:48] <fas> Also, cd brings me to what seems like a guest acount's hime
[04:48] <Coded1> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  look for device
[04:48] <fas> kunji: does that make sense?
[04:49] <Coded1> dartos: you should see a "Driver" listing under "Device"
[04:49] <fas> Then, I type 'su myuser' and I get oh-my-zsh back and cd brings me to the right directory
[04:49] <dartos> Coded1: okay ill check
[04:49] <dartos> Coded1: no xorg.conf
[04:50] <kunji> fas: Hmm, I think I know what you're saying, but it's not behavior I've ever seen before.  Maybe the BASH environment is wrong?
[04:50] <dartos> just xorg.conf.failsafe
[04:50] <dartos> and that says the driver is not vesa
[04:50] <dartos> now*
[04:50] <Coded1> dartos: cool, try "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:51] <Coded1> then "startx"
[04:51] <dartos> okay
[04:51] <ThePhoenix> Looking for a good media converter… Anyone have any suggestions?
[04:51] <ThePhoenix> I tried ConvertMe!, but… didn't install properly
[04:51] <fas> kunji: how can I check?
[04:51] <giggazilla> Anyone familiar with having a drive fail in raid 5 using intel ich9 and replacing.... it rebuilt both the array's, but my 2tb is showing as no data.
[04:51] <disco-eel> 'Evening
[04:51] <fas> I have my user set up to use zsh through /etc/passwd
[04:52] <dartos> Coded1: random reboot?
[04:52] <Coded1> ThePhoenix: check out "gstreamer gui" on google
[04:52] <kunji> ThePhoenix: ffmpeg, vlc, mplayer, though the later two may use ffmpeg underneath, not sure.  ffmpeg will take some learning to use correctly, but it's by far the most powerful media converter I've seen.
[04:52] <giggazilla> I was able to boot into initramfs and run some dmraid commands to see the mappers still listed under /dev
[04:52] <ThePhoenix> Didn't know vlc did converting as well as playing
[04:52] <Coded1> dartos: what command made it reboot?
[04:52] <giggazilla> Plus blkid returns the path to all the partitions I had defined previously
[04:52] <ThePhoenix> will check out those various suggestions, thanks
[04:53] <dartos> Coded1: it just kinda did... but it was a normal reboot so...
[04:53] <Coded1> dartos: see what happens when it comes back up
[04:53] <kunji> fas: I'm not sure, I don't mess with mine, sorry I couldn't be more help.  I would recommend running the ssh daemon with -v or whatever it is for verbose, maybe -vvv?  Then it will give you a lot more output and there may be some indication in all of that of what is happening.
[04:53] <dartos> Coded1: x didn't start by itself
[04:53] <dartos> I started X and still see no unity
[04:54] <fas> kunji: I'm accessing it via putty
[04:54] <dartos> Coded1: nvidia's xorg is still there
[04:54] <fas> is that something I set on the server side?
[04:54] <disco-eel> did you look at the lightdm logfile yet?
[04:54] <dartos> Coded1: oh yay system problem detected -_-
[04:54] <disco-eel> theres always juicy stuff in there
[04:55] <dartos> I am looking at the details... and something with Xorg...
[04:55] <Maxx__> Gotta love those system problem detected(s)
[04:55] <dartos> Maxx__: ikr
[04:55] <disco-eel> Its samba giving me mine
[04:55] <Coded1> dartos: pastebin
[04:55] <giggazilla> Anyone?
[04:55] <dartos> Coded1: idk if I can...
[04:55] <Coded1> dartos: which nvidia card do you have?
[04:56] <disco-eel> I havent checked why casue im lazy
[04:56] <dartos> Coded1: GTX 560Ti
[04:56] <dartos> Coded1: crysis 2 edition ;)
[04:56] <kunji> fas: That's fine, yeah, you would set it on the server side.  I don't want to accidentally lock you out of your server, but i think something like sudo service ssh stop && sudo service ssh start -v  will run both commands and then you can just connect again, you should confirm that with someone else before trying it though.  I'm not sure about the -v when calling it through upstart.
[04:57] <Coded1> dartos: do you see anything with "EE" in the error log?
[04:57] <dartos> Was there ever an ubuntu version Linaro?
[04:57] <fas> thanks for your help
[04:57] <fas> I'll look into that
[04:57] <fas> I have physical access if anything goes haywire anyways
[04:57] <dartos> Coded1: where would I look?
[04:58] <dartos> Coded1: it is like a whole system log
[04:58] <disco-eel> Why do I hear sometimes that modprobe.conf is depreciated? The man page doesn't seem to say so
[04:58] <dartos> Coded1: the actual error was
[04:58] <Maxx__> Well. I guess I will tackle my problem anew tomorrow.  Thanks everyone.
[04:58] <fas> kunji: odd. I didn't get kicked out of my connection
[04:59] <fas> is it ssh or ssh server? or openssh?
[04:59] <disco-eel> where should I be configuring my modules?
[04:59] <fas> It told me it stopped and restarted
[04:59] <Coded1> dartos: can you try "dmesg | pastebinit && cat /etc/var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"?
[04:59] <dartos> Coded1: It's too big
[04:59] <dartos> wait I have an idea... let me try something
[05:01] <kunji> fas: Actually it should be that smooth if all is well.  ssh-server should be the package for openssh I think.  I'm not sure about the -v when running it as a daemon though, using the debug modes is probably better, this should help: http://fixunix.com/mandrake/122505-run-sshd-debugging-mode.html
[05:03] <giggazilla> Ok, well I guess the first step is to boot from the ubuntu livecd
[05:03] <dartos> Coded1: I don't thiknk trying the experimental ones is a good idea...
[05:04] <dartos> btw does anyone know if you can get an ubuntu thinkpad in the USA?
[05:05] <disco-eel> sure, why not?
[05:05] <fas> kunji: it appears it's logging me in as root
[05:05] <dartos> disco-eel: no I mean buy one with ubuntu already on it
[05:05] <disco-eel> right
[05:06] <Coded1> I've personally used the 310 drivers and they work pretty good, It may be a good idea however to try one of the other drivers first and switch
[05:06] <disco-eel> hmm
[05:06] <fas> kunji: which is odd since that's disallowed in my confg
[05:06] <dartos> disco-eel: they sell those in the UK but I don't see any on their US site
[05:06] <dartos> Coded1: okay
[05:06] <disco-eel> best to call I say
[05:06] <dartos> Coded1: trying the nvidia-current instead of nvidia-current-updates
[05:06] <kunji> fas: That's not good at all, I thought that wasn't allowed in the default sshd_config, ... that could be really bad then.
[05:06] <dartos> disco-eel: probably... but that means interactions with... humans....
[05:06] <chriys> my server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[05:06] <chriys> .[00:06:20] <chriys> and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[05:06] <disco-eel> you will get handed off a bunch but if your persistent Id think
[05:07]  * dartos makes a face of disgust
[05:07] <disco-eel> yeah I understand
[05:07] <coolspot> So no solution to make a WiFi hotspot with WPA in 12.04?
[05:07] <chriys> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1661802/apache-server-keeps-crashing-caught-sigterm-shutting-downmy server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down  and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM*
[05:07] <kunji> coolspot: That is highly dependent on your hardware as far as I know
[05:08] <Coded1> dartos: what happened?
[05:08] <coolspot> kunji: Worked in previous releases, so hardware is not at fault.
[05:08] <dartos> Coded1: same thing
[05:08] <kunji> coolspot: It should work then, maybe you're using a different driver or something?
[05:08] <dartos> Coded1: going to try the 310 i guess...
[05:08] <chriys> :x sorry guys little mistake here is the message: my server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down  and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[05:09] <trkmstrwggy> whats up guys
[05:09] <fas> kunji, https://gist.github.com/4680390
[05:09] <coolspot> kunji: No, just vanilla. WPA and related are greyed out for whatever reason, same in other distros based on 12.04.
[05:09] <dartos> Coded1: they need to really work on linux GPU support....
[05:09] <dartos> Coded1: do you have the default kernal?
[05:09] <disco-eel> I was never a fan of the phone deal until this strange day..I had to call Micro**t for my w box
[05:09] <kunji> coolspot: Where are you looking to see this WPA option?
[05:09] <RigidWig> anyone know what this is all about: http://pastebin.com/zxREG1Xa ??
[05:10] <disco-eel> I was shocked...
[05:10] <drumroll> I need help installing a package containing network drivers on my computer that has no internet
[05:10] <drumroll> I'm not having much luck with google
[05:11] <disco-eel> usb key?
[05:11] <drumroll> do I need apt-offline installed on the destination pc?
[05:11] <drumroll> I do have a USB key
[05:11] <disco-eel> did you find your chipset yet?
[05:11] <drumroll> just not sure how to get packages onto it, including dependencies, and then install them on dest. pc
[05:11] <drumroll> My chipset is atheros 8161
[05:11] <Coded1> dartos: I'm running 13.04 I have 3.8.0-2-generic
[05:11] <fas> kunji, the end of that file is from today
[05:11] <drumroll> I found a package with the driver but it said "dependency is not satisfiable"
[05:12] <dartos> Coded1: is 13.04 more stable then 12.10... I have had NOTHING but problems with 12.10... these damn drivers
[05:12] <drumroll> "dependency is not satisfiable: linux-image-3.5.0-18-generic
[05:12] <coolspot> kunji: "Create New Wireless Network", and "nm-connection-editor" and wherever. Do you have such hardware and if so could you see if they are greyed out for you too?
[05:12] <disco-eel> hmm
[05:12] <dartos> I am thinking of just reinstaling 12.04...
[05:12] <drumroll> would 13.04 have the drivers I need?
[05:13] <drumroll> I didn't realize there was a 13.04 already
[05:13] <Coded1> dartos: not a chance buddy.  I'm having stuff crash all day long.  Luckily I have an SSD :)  It makes the error reporting much faster
[05:13] <dartos> Coded1: ug...
[05:13] <Coded1> just upgrading crashes things
[05:13] <fas> kunji: specifically line 2000+
[05:13] <Coded1> dartos: sometimes it makes it easier installing from scratch and following the step by steps right from the start
[05:13] <dartos> Coded1: if only i could curse in this channel.... I am really mad right now... it didn;t work... again
[05:14] <dartos> Coded1: that would be litterally the 12 time I did that
[05:14] <dartos> today....
[05:14] <adamshumpisxxx> Is anyone available to help me with an Xbox 360 wired controller issue?
[05:14] <disco-eel> was it alx?
[05:14] <dartos> Coded1: wait... WAIT
[05:15] <kunji> coolspot: I think my card is a different one, just to be clear you mean in the Security dropdown menu?  WPA & WPA2 Personal and WPA & WPA2 Enterprise are both options for me.
[05:15] <freestylesno> im trying to figure out what i need to do to dual boot on a laptop that came with win8
[05:15] <Coded1> drumroll: try "sudo apt-get install --simulate build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-headers-`uname -r`" and download all the packages separately
[05:16] <dartos> Coded1: IT SEEMS to be working... unity started up and the 310 driver is still selected in software sources
[05:16] <dartos> I am going to run a benchmark to check
[05:16] <coolspot> kunji: Yes, "Wireless Security", as you can see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171914/sharing-wireless-connection-with-other-pcs-and-phones
[05:16] <Coded1> drumroll: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
[05:16] <drumroll> Coded1 couldn't make those instructions work
[05:16] <bravis> why is Gstreamer not in ubuntu?
[05:17] <adamshumpisxxx> If anyone can weigh in on this issue I would appreciate it:
[05:17] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110717
[05:17] <juniour> hi
[05:17] <Coded1>  drumroll; what happens?
[05:17] <coolspot> kunji: And others are having the same issue with different hardware, and I'm also testing on two different machines. http://askubuntu.com/questions/142379/unable-to-use-wpa-security-when-using-laptop-as-hotspot-with-an-intel-3945abg
[05:17] <drumroll> the irony of instructions to download a network driver...
[05:17] <dartos> Coded1: if this is working... I will buy you a beer :D
[05:17] <disco-eel> im seeing something that says you ought to blacklist the atl1c mod too
[05:18] <disco-eel> drumroll check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/105607/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar8131-ethernet-card-working
[05:18] <Coded1> dartos: your success is a gift on its own buddy
[05:18] <disco-eel> did you already look at that?
[05:18] <kunji> coolspot: Hmm, those aren't grayed out for me.  That's not how I usually create a hotspot though myself, I usually use a much more manual method.  I never had much success with those actually working through the GUI, despite that all the options are available.
[05:18] <dartos> Coded1: well lets see i didn't run the benchmark yet...
[05:18] <coolspot> kunji: You're on 12.04, right? Not 12.10.
[05:20] <kunji> fas: It looks like it changes your identity after checking the blacklist?  Check if you're on the blacklist, also do confirm that sshd_config has root login disabled, just so that is absolutely for sure.
[05:20] <Coded1> dartos: well unity loading is a good sign
[05:20] <juniour> coolspt ubuntu provide wep for hotspot
[05:20] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know of anything like landscape, but absolutely free, so i can manage an entire net of systems?
[05:20] <dartos> that it is
[05:20] <kunji> coolspot: It is working on a 12.04 machine and two 12.10 machines here.
[05:20] <fas> kunji: it has it disabled
[05:20] <coolspot> juniour: Yes, WEP is available but not WPA* which used to be available.
[05:21] <drumroll> it's not that those instructions don't work
[05:21] <kunji> TheLordOfTime: Umm, I don't know what landscape does, but Nagios is a good way to do some server monitoring.
[05:21] <drumroll> it's just that the destination pc does not have internet
[05:21] <drumroll> I'm downloading network driver packages
[05:21] <giggazilla> How can you tell the live cd to stop trying to locate harddisks and just load the live cd?
[05:21] <coolspot> kunji: Just to make sure, you're trying hotspot/adhoc and not regular connection?
[05:21] <juniour> coolspot i never seen wpa
[05:21] <TheLordOfTime> kunji:  i'm aware of nagios for montioring, but i need remote management as well... perhaps i should just ask in -server :/
[05:21] <fas> kunji: also, I don't have anything blacklisted.
[05:21] <juniour> coolspot when i turned hotspot its wep ony
[05:21] <drumroll> So I need to get the packages from "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-precise-generic
[05:22] <drumroll> and put them via usb to another pc
[05:22] <giggazilla> Is there a certain key I can press or something?
[05:22] <coolspot> juniour: Yes, older versions had it available, which is what I want. Which is why I'm trying to figure out why it's disabled and how to enable it again.
[05:22] <disco-eel> yeah
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: the haven benchmark is beautiful
[05:23] <Coded1> dartos: congrats
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: especially at 60 FPS
[05:23] <disco-eel> that page was just one of the things that came up
[05:23] <drumroll> where does apt-get install --download-only put the packages?
[05:23] <adamshumpisxxx> Does anyone know how to configure the Xbox 360 controller driver dead zone?
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: sir... I can't thank you enough
[05:23] <Coded1> dartos: no problems buddy have at er
[05:24] <juniour> ohhh
[05:24] <dartos> Coded1: ...just...just...thank so much
[05:24] <kunji> coolspot: Ah, I see what you mean now, I still have WPA & WPA2 Personal though, The Enterprise one is grayed out though, as is LEAP and Dynamic WEP.  Anyway, is it actually important that this be reproduce on my system?  Especially considering that we don't have the same hardware...
[05:24]  * dartos bursts into tears
[05:24] <dr_willis> drumroll:  /var/cache/apt/ perhaps - or whever the resst of the .deb gets cached at
[05:24] <Coded1> lol now don't get too sentimental I'm gonna cry too
[05:25] <dartos> lol
[05:25] <dartos> Coded1: you don't understand what this means
[05:25] <juniour> kunji i dont think its hardware issue
[05:25] <coolspot> kunji: Well, others are having the same issue with hardware I don't have. What WiFi cards do you have? And you don't have to enable any hotspot, just check if the things are greyed out or not, which they are for me and others.
[05:25] <Dr_Physicist> Can I install Ubuntu 12.10 QQ by side of two others OS and later change the size of them with, for example: Gparted?
[05:25] <dartos> I can move all my game development to linux now :D no more windows :D
[05:25] <giggazilla> Anyone?
[05:26] <disco-eel> does anyone understand what I mean about the modules?
[05:26] <juniour> kunji the same hard ware provide wep.wpa * in windows os but in ubuntu it provides wep ony
[05:26] <Coded1> dartos: you're not gonna propose are you, I don't think I can handle that
[05:26] <Coded1> lol
[05:26] <dr_willis> giggazilla:  in not sure we are clear on the question.
[05:26] <juniour> so  i think its not the hard ware issue
[05:26] <disco-eel> oh ok
[05:26] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis, Can I install Ubuntu 12.10 QQ by side of two others OS and later change the size of them with, for example: Gparted?
[05:27] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  yes
[05:27] <dartos> Coded1: lol no... btw how would I know if upgrading to the next release of ubuntu would break this
[05:27] <dartos> Coded1: should I just wait and look up forums and stuff?
[05:27] <disco-eel> well Im just a bit confused on where I should pass options for my modules
[05:27] <kunji> coolspot: Right I did check, my card is an Atheros AR9300.  You could try using hostapd for this, it's what I usually use for this kind of thing, this could help getting started with it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-setting-wireless-access-point/
[05:27] <disco-eel> modprobe.conf?
[05:28] <Coded1> dartos: wait it out buddy, next release they want to start with Wayland
[05:28] <Coded1> I can smell the borked boxen already
[05:28] <dartos> Coded1: wayland?
[05:28] <disco-eel> ls /etc/modprobe.d/
[05:28] <disco-eel> oops
[05:28] <kunji> Coded1: Wayland... well, we'll see how that actually goes over.
[05:28] <Coded1> dartos: it's a sweet idea, check it out on youtube
[05:29] <Coded1> think of a 3D game where all the surfaces are your desktop
[05:29] <kunji> Coded1: Did they ever find a way to reincorporate network transparency?
[05:29] <adamshumpisxxx> Does anyone know how to configure the Xbox 360 controller driver dead zone?
[05:29] <drumroll> dr_willis thank you that is where the packages downloaded
[05:29] <Coded1> kunji: network transparency?
[05:30] <dartos> Coded1: it looks like compiz...
[05:30] <coolspot> kunji: I also have "AR9300", which is a generic name for these models, the specific card I have is AR9382, you might have the same or AR9380, I think. So you're not using any other software to have WPA available as an option for hotspot?
[05:30] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Thank you for the answer. Just one more thing. Does not any kind of problem?
[05:31] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  theres alwyas potential for problems..
[05:31] <fas> kunji: I think I figured it out
[05:31] <kunji> Coded1: Well, that's just the thing right, X is actually a server and can send to clients, it lets us do neat things like using the -X option with ssh.  Also it lets you do things like run many end terminals on the same server, whatever they're calling that these days.
[05:32] <kunji> fas: What did you find?  I've been looking at the log, but I haven't figured anything out yet T.T
[05:32] <Coded1> kunji: ahh you mean wayland remote "X" sessions
[05:32] <giggazilla> dr_willis: the live cd hangs and when I esc out of the graphic it keeps trying to discover /dev/sda...b... etc
[05:32] <fas> kunji: I installed xwindows the other day, when logging in via ssh and if I do 'cd' and then 'ls' I get a .desktop file and a README
[05:32] <kunji> Coded1: So they did end up doing it?
[05:32] <Coded1> I think that's going to turn into a VNC kinda thing
[05:33] <chriys> it'S alright i found solution -_-'
[05:33] <chriys> ethernet cable was unplugged
[05:33] <fas> the README says something like, this directory has been unmounted for your safety, use the gui to click the .desktop file or type in *some command*
[05:33] <Coded1> kunji: Wayland basically replaces X
[05:34] <chriys> does somebody can test this website and tell me if it works please http://regroupementjeunesseenaction.com/
[05:34] <chriys> i'm verifying if it works outside of my local network
[05:34] <adamshumpisxxx> That website does not work.
[05:34] <kunji> Coded1: I know, but those functions of X were originally planned to be scrapped in wayland because of difficulties doing it with Wayland's very different architecture.  It's been some time since I looked at the project though, they may have changed their minds.
[05:34] <Coded1> kunji: you could always run X as headless and still have remotes
[05:35] <disco-eel> so for instance, if I want to add support for more loop devices, I set "loop options loop max_loop=64"
[05:35] <threex5> is there a particular version of ubuntu that works better in gnome fallback mode? I'm running 12.10 and it's a little buggy
[05:35] <kunji> Coded1: You mean side by side with wayland?  Hmm, we'll have to see if they play nice, but I would expect some contention between them.
[05:36] <threex5> i would be willing to downgrade if it was worth it.
[05:36] <kunji> threex5: You mean using gnome-panel?
[05:36] <threex5> correct
[05:36] <dr_willis> threex5:  gnome-fallback mode is scheduled for eventual  removal.. but it may have gotten a stay of execution for a few more releases
[05:36] <fas> kunji: does that infor help?
[05:37] <Coded1> kunji: I doubt there will be many issues, they are so different now that they probably won't even notice eachother
[05:37] <cyberman_> ls
[05:37] <giggazilla> dr_willis:  I'm wondering if it's messing up with the chipset raid array I have
[05:37] <dr_willis> threex5:  if you like the old skool type desktop. you may want to check out Lubuntu
[05:37] <threex5> dr_willis, I know. this is causing me anxiety.
[05:37] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Yes. Where can I find a tutorial to up the partitions for start of installation?
[05:37] <dr_willis> threex5:  gnome2 is dead... time to move on
[05:37] <threex5> I might try lubuntu again. I really, really like gnome 2 though
[05:37] <adamshumpisxxx> That website does not work.
[05:37] <threex5> no!
[05:37] <dr_willis> gnome2 has had issues for ages....  people just overlooked them
[05:38] <chriys> adamshumpisxxx seriously ? this is weird
[05:38] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  i just use a gparted live cd normally
[05:38] <threex5> I don't understand why I have to move on from software that works exactly the way I like it, that I've already mastered
[05:38] <adamshumpisxxx> Yes. Seriously.
[05:38] <kunji> fas: Hmm, it doesn't help me, someone else probably would know more than I do though.
[05:38] <threex5> So frustrating. Mate is buggy too
[05:38] <adamshumpisxxx> I would say if you love GNOME2 then use MATE.
[05:38] <dr_willis> threex5:  the gnome devs gave many reasons for moveing  away from gnome2
[05:38] <chriys> can you try to add the www admshumpisxxx
[05:38] <chriys> what is mate ?
[05:38] <coolspot> kunji: Could you provide a quick screenshot of the available WPA options regarding hotspot/adhoc that you see?
[05:39] <threex5> mate is a fork of gnome 2
[05:39] <adamshumpisxxx> But the big problem I have with it is the "Shut Down..." option under System is missing for me.
[05:39]  * dr_willis finds the desktop hes using really dosent matter much....
[05:39] <adamshumpisxxx> The website does not work even with the "www" in front of it.
[05:40] <Edve> adamshumpisxxx: try to reinstall the GUI
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> I already did. I even reinstalled the DM.
[05:40] <giggazilla> dr_willis:  I will try the live cd without dmraid enabled and see what happens.
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> Nothing works.
[05:40] <Coded1> dartos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs
[05:40] <Edve> hmm
[05:40] <dr_willis> giggazilla:   i dont use raid. so no idea how it affects thingss
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> If you want to check out my issue I can send you my current thread link in UBuntu Forums.
[05:40] <Edve> how you shut down the computer since ?
[05:41] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Thank you.
[05:41] <Edve> Yeah send it up though
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2109915
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> I use "sudo shotdown -P now".
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> Or "sudo reboot".
[05:41] <chriys> i'm lost my webserver won't work -_-
[05:42] <kunji> coolspot: My memory is failing me, what site is it for posting images again?
[05:43] <chriys> i can access to my webserver from local but not from outside somebody has a solution ?
[05:43] <coolspot> kunji: ompldr.org for example
[05:43] <adamshumpisxxx> Check your DNS setup.
[05:43] <dr_willis> chriys:  soiunds like router is not port forwarding
[05:43] <adamshumpisxxx> And make sure your router allows a connection from the outside.
[05:44] <chriys> i can even access it using mydomain.com
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> Try SSHing from your cell phone.
[05:44] <kunji> coolspot: http://ompldr.org/vaGFpOQ/Screenshot%20from%202013-01-31%2000:40:28.png
[05:44] <chriys> adamshumpisxxx how to SSHing ?
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> You don't know how to SSH?
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> Uh oh...
[05:44] <Edve> hmm
[05:44] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:45] <adamshumpisxxx> What do you think Edve?
[05:45] <drumroll> so im trying to run a script
[05:45] <Edve> hmm you did use which repo ?
[05:45] <chriys> i know it but never did from a cellphone. I'm using iphone 3g
[05:45] <coolspot> kunji: And in the "Wireless" tab "Mode" is set to"Ad-hoc" instead of "Infrastructure"?
[05:45] <drumroll> "./driver-select alx" -> PERMISSION DENIED
[05:45] <drumroll> "sudo ./driver-select alx" -> command not found
[05:45] <adamshumpisxxx> Check your PM Edve.
[05:45] <drumroll> help?
[05:45] <kunji> coolspot: Yeah, with infrastructure nothing is grayed out.
[05:46] <jbud> drumroll: sudo su
[05:46] <dr_willis> dont use sudo su.....
[05:46] <dr_willis> sudo -s  or sudo -i will work
[05:46] <coolspot> kunji: Hmm, ok. Thanks. How did you get it available? You must've done something..
[05:47] <dr_willis> drumroll:  get a root shell  via 'sudo -i' and try the script again
[05:47] <kunji> coolspot: I wouldn't worry about my system being different though, it's not a fresh install, it's using hostapd and various other things, something might have been installed as a dependency.. who know, I really wouldn't sweat it.  I really couldn't tell you how, this is the first time I looked at it on this system, because as I said, I usually do that with hostapd and dnsmasq and iptables.. in the terminal.
[05:48] <drumroll> dr_willis: still getting permission denied
[05:48] <coolspot> kunji: And that's from the 12.04 system?
[05:48] <kunji> coolspot: yeah
[05:48] <dr_willis> drumroll:  it is an executable scrit/file?
[05:48] <drumroll> yes
[05:48] <coolspot> kunji: Ok, I'll have to dig deeper then. Thanks.
[05:48] <drumroll> -bash: ./scripts/driver-select: Permissoin denied
[05:49] <drumroll> I've got a # prompt
[05:49] <kunji> coolspot: No problem, but if you know that it works in 12.10, upgrading might be the way to go, or there are ways to install the newer packages on 12.04.
[05:50] <dr_willis> drumroll:  what does ls -l say about the ./scriptss/driver-select file       what does the 'file' command say abvout it also
[05:51] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110717
[05:52] <drumroll> -rw-r--r-- 1 aaron aaron 11736 jul 3 2012 ./scripts/driver-select
[05:52] <coolspot> kunji: Well, I'm not looking to use Ubuntu actually, I'm just checking on the issue as it appears on distros based on Ubuntu. I will soon use Trisquel 6.0 (100% fully free), which is 12.04, and LTS obviously, so.. yeah. I'll have to try newer packages and hostapd and so on. :/
[05:52] <drumroll> ./scripts/driver-select: a /usr/bin/env bash script, ASCII text executable
[05:54] <drumroll> dr_willis got thanks
[05:54] <drumroll> chmod 777
[05:54] <kunji> coolspot: Actually, the kernel handles this, no?  This might be the machine I installed the newer kernel on, in which case that might be precisely the difference that is important between 12.04 and 12.10.  I see this bug report here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=818214  That is for the 3.3 kernel, it might have been broken in 3.2 as well (I think 12.04 uses 3.2 by default).  Maybe it's fixed in the 3.5 kernel (I think what 12
[05:54] <drumroll> how do I chmod every file in a folder
[05:54] <dr_willis> drumroll:  ;) guess it wasent executable eh...
[05:54] <drumroll> nope it wasn't
[05:55] <drumroll> I thought I chmod'd it already, but I did something wrong
[05:55] <dr_willis> drumroll:  best to not go wild with chmod
[05:55] <coolspot> kunji: You got cut off at "(I think what 12".
[05:55] <drumroll> i haven't gotten a handle of chmod yet
[05:55] <drumroll> I only know 777
[05:55] <dr_willis> !permissions
[05:55] <drumroll> makes things work
[05:55] <dr_willis> drumroll:  and forgetg about 777 you RARELY ever want to use 777
[05:55] <kunji> coolspot: at the end?  Maybe it's fixed in the 3.5 kernel (I think what 12.10 is using).
[05:55] <coolspot> kunji: And yes, I was looking at that bug report earlier..
[05:56] <drumroll> 766?
[05:56] <dr_willis> !permissions | drumroll
[05:56] <dr_willis> learn about them ;)
[05:56] <kunji> coolspot: If that is what the problem is, then the packages aren't going to make a difference and messing with them will just be a waste of time.
[05:57] <jbud> drumroll: u means user, a means anyone, r means owner/root ;; r means read, w means write, x means execute ;; chmod ua+rw file    means user and anyone has read and write abilities for file
[05:57] <coolspot> kunji: What version of Linux did you install? It's not so nice for this to appear in the LTS release..
[05:59] <kunji> coolspot: I did install 12.04, but I'm not using that kernel anymore.  That kernel did not play nice with any of my wireless devices, they would hang and broadcast, effectively jamming the entire wireless band.  It was not pleasant.
[06:00] <drumroll> make worked woo
[06:00] <coolspot> kunji: So, what version of Linux did you install on that 12.04 machine to get WPA available?
[06:01] <fas> Anyone know how to uninstall x? Or at least stop it from logging me into X when logging in via ssh?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !text | fas
[06:01] <kunji> coolspot: I'm using 3.5.0-22 at the moment, the same as what 12.10 is using, the only reason I did that instead of just upgrading to 12.10 was as a learning experience really.
[06:01] <fas> dr_willis: that's not what I want
[06:01] <dr_willis> i dont see how  logging in via ssh.. logs you into X
[06:01] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, is there a way to set a more specific location for gnome weather?
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> WOO IM ONLINE
[06:02] <dr_willis> fas:  the you should give more details..
[06:02] <fas> dr_willis: after installing x I get problems logging in via ssh
[06:02] <dr_willis> fas:  problems  such as ?
[06:02] <fas> dr_willis: It logs me in as my user but typing 'cd' doesn't bring me to my home
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> thanks dr_willis jbud Coded1
[06:02] <coolspot> kunji: Ah, ok. So 12.04 is borked with regards to this. Sad thing on LTS. Well, cheers for the help.
[06:02] <kunji> dr_willis: His .bashrc maybe?  I could be completely off track though
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> brand new build complete
[06:02] <fas> I then have to do 'su myuser' and then 'cd' to get to my home
[06:03] <Coded1> drumroll_itworke: congrats buddy
[06:03] <giggazilla> Is there a way to limit dmesg output from the initramfs prompt?  less and more aren't available
[06:03] <drumrolll> thanks Coded1
[06:03] <kunji> coolspot: anytime, yeah, I've actually found 12.10 to work out much better for me in pretty much every regard.
[06:03] <drumrolll> it was a pain
[06:03] <fas> dr_willis: after logging in via ssh I don't get my home, I get a .desktop file and a README, which both look like they pertain to X
[06:03] <drumrolll> I buckled and bought windows for this build too, just for games
[06:03] <drumrolll> windows won't even install
[06:03] <drumrolll> Linux: 1 Windows: 0
[06:03] <fas> dr_willis: does that make sense?
[06:04] <dr_willis> fas  youa re using an encrypted home.. so it makes sence...
[06:04] <dr_willis> its not unencrypting the home when you sssh in
[06:04] <fas> How do I get it to do that when sshing in?
[06:04] <dr_willis> and what is IN the readme?
[06:04] <dr_willis> I dont use encrypted home.. so no idea...
[06:04] <seeqwell> uptime tells me I have 4 users in my system and I only have one terminal open which one is for me, one is auto assigned to root.  What are the other two and how to I kill the pid please?
[06:04] <fas> It wasn't like this prior to a recent reboot
[06:05] <dr_willis> you may want to check on askubuntu.com for ssh and encrypted home issues
[06:05] <coolspot> kunji: I was looking to use Trisquel 6.0 (Ubuntu 12.04) as a server, also doing this hotspot, so I'd want WPA obviously. But doesn't seem to be the solution. Unless I just use a router on the ethernet port and let that do the wireless bit, but I'd prefer not to do that.
[06:06] <fas> dr_willis: I think I figured it out
[06:06] <fas> thanks for your help
[06:07] <drumroll> how do I update from os
[06:07] <drumroll> from *terminal
[06:07] <kunji> coolspot: It still might work with hostapd, seems like it did for this person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835274
[06:07] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <drumroll> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[06:07] <dr_willis> drumroll:  yes...
[06:07] <billytwowilly> why trisquel?
[06:07] <Coded1> drumroll: yup
[06:07] <drumroll> thx
[06:07] <fas> kunji, dr_willis, prior to reboot I had logged in physically (at my desk) as my user thus whenever sshing in it was already unencrypted. Then after a reboot I didn't log back in so I need to unencrypt home every time I log in.
[06:08] <giggazilla> Looks like I have grep at least so that's plus
[06:08] <coolspot> kunji: That's not regarding 12.04 though?
[06:09] <dr_willis> fas:  makes sence to me.. I dont se emuch point in using encrypted home on my desktop machines
[06:09] <fas> dr_willis: it's a server
[06:09] <fas> but yeah, I did it just for fun
[06:09] <fas> didn't know of any downsides
[06:09] <dr_willis> seen LOTS of people with encrypted issues in here.
[06:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:10] <kunji> coolspot: Ah, you're right, my bad.  Not sure why I thought it was.
[06:10] <fas> haha good, not just me
[06:10] <dr_willis> unless its on a laptop and you have critical stuff you dont want to get stolen.
[06:10] <dr_willis> i dont see much point.
[06:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:10] <fas> dr_willis: unfortunately it's a pain to stop home encryption
[06:12] <aaron_> uh what do I do if I get a general protection fault
[06:12] <aaron_> screen turns black, scrolling white text
[06:15] <drumroll_> what causes general protection fault
[06:17] <coolspot> kunji: How about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1046918
[06:19] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc"
[06:19]  * momo_ test
[06:19] <gnomefreak> test cnfirmed
[06:19] <hillary> When i click ok it start working well
[06:20] <hillary> what could be the issue here
[06:20] <hillary> It reads generalinput/output error
[06:22] <hillary> Any help?
[06:23] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc"
[06:23] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli"
[06:23] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[06:25] <kunji> coolspot: Hmm, that looks good, but as they say, they need the kernel changes, otherwise it will actually be creating an unsecured network.  That probably means the option on my 12.04 install actually creates an unsecured network though -_- good thing I wasn't using it.
[06:27] <coolspot> kunji: Yeah, dang it :/
[06:32] <fsvehla> Even though I have set /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to prompt=Lts, I get “New release '12.10' available.” on login. Is that normal?
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> fsvehla: try lower case 'l'?
[06:34] <somsip> book_list_for_tag (probably)
[06:34] <somsip> ooops
[06:34] <fsvehla> aeon-ltd: Ooh
[06:35] <fsvehla> aeon-ltd: Good catch, but that wasn’t it.
[06:35] <xrs> go into the software sorces and adjust there
[06:35] <xrs> tell it you only want lts notifications
[06:37] <greenmang0> !eol
[06:38] <pen9u1n> is it safe to remove a partition with parted, and add it again, and the partition still mount able?
[06:38] <xrs> sure but any data on the partition will be gone
[06:38] <pen9u1n> why? I will do nothing on that area
[06:38] <vbgunz> anyone here pretty familiar with the quirks of ssh? I have a private key that can log into a host over lan without a problem *but* using the exact same key, going over the internet through the public ip, connects to the same exact RSA verified host but my private key does not get accepted and neither does my password.
[06:38] <pen9u1n> actually i want to resize a part
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> pen9u1n: if you are mounting it like /dev/sdx/ and the x is the same
[06:39] <vbgunz> none of these problems exist if I connect over lan, but over the internet, the key fails and so does the password
[06:39] <vbgunz> does anyone know what I can look into for fixing this?
[06:40] <xrs> could be your router is not forwarding
[06:40] <aeon-ltd> vbgunz: if you have a firewall restriction that only allows connections over lan that could be it
[06:40] <xrs> have you set up port forwarding for SSH on the router? no firewall restrictions that conflict?
[06:41] <vbgunz> it is and should be forwarding, I connect to the same RSA host, it checks the private key and fails then prompts for a password and that fails too
[06:43] <RiXtEr> How can I remove a directory when there is so many files in it I can't even do a ls in it? (I have done rm -fr /path/to/directory, but it ran for about 10 hours, any my cpu load was cruising about 8 )
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: how did you get so many files>
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> ?
[06:43] <RiXtEr> I think a bug in another program.
[06:44] <hillary> anybody with a remedy to my problem?
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: if the progam's running then it could be generating faster than you can rm
[06:44] <xrs> vbgunz,  there is also #ssh and #openssh
[06:44] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, hrm, I doubt it, but I will give it a shot.
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: if it is, try booting to a livecd then managing the files there
[06:45] <RiXtEr> well, I can end the program, but it doesn't seem that is the issue.
[06:45] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, I ran rm with the program down for about 10 mins and the folder size never changes
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: do you own all the files?
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, the problem is I don't even know how many files are in this folder, but most are 0k
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, running this as root.
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> ah
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, the only reason I noticed it at all, is that I ran out of inodes.
[06:47] <xrs> have you tried the verbose switch to see what its doing?
[06:48] <RiXtEr> xrs, it looks to be working...
[06:50] <xrs> well i cant think of anything becides cloneine the drive but ignoreing that dir, then format n restore
[06:50] <kwerk> becides?
[06:50] <xrs> i should sleep
[06:50] <RiXtEr> xrs, I didn't know if anyone had a clever dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/directory command.
[06:52] <litropy> Hi, all - I'm running stock 12.04; I have no sound. I guess I'd like to start with pulling my soundcard info, which I need help with, and also seeing if it's properly active, which I also need help with. But, if you guys have a better idea, I'm all ears.
[06:52] <litropy> This is the first time I've tested sound on this box, btw.
[06:52] <CHIex> hello, I am choosing Linux distribution.. I am new Linux user, is UBUNTU user friendly?  is it hard to install software?
[06:52] <litropy> Although it's been operating fine in all other respects for months.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> CHIex, yes it's user friendly.  software install is easy.
[06:53] <kunji> RiXtEr: dd can't ignore just a file, it doesn't have a concept of filesystems, only of block level devices.
[06:53] <litropy> CHIex, Ubuntu is just about the friendliest linux distro you'll find.
[06:53] <abdullah> hello
[06:53] <RiXtEr> kunji, I know, I was just hopeful ;)
[06:53] <kunji> CHIex: what litropy said, and installing most software is very easy
[06:54] <cfhowlett> abdullah, greetings
[06:54] <abdullah> is there a good beginners for mono ?
[06:54] <kunji> RiXtEr: Are you just trying to get rid of the folder?
[06:54] <RiXtEr> kunji, yep
[06:55] <abdullah> cfhowlett thank you
[06:55] <RiXtEr> kunji, I have had rm -fr /path/to/folder running for about 10 hours, and ls -alhd reports the same size as 10 hours ago, 473 mb
[06:55] <cfhowlett> abdullah, what's your ubuntu question??
[06:55] <RiXtEr> err... 443 mb
[06:56] <litropy> CHIex, you're also in just the right place, for here is where your questions will be answered most effectively. You can count on this channel being active nearly 24 hours a day, into the foreseeable future.
[06:57] <abdullah> sorry it is my mistake :) i loged in both mono and ubuntu chanel sory for that guys
[06:57] <litropy> CHIex, just keep in mind, your questions may not be answered immediately. Case in point: my sound question up there.
[06:57] <RiXtEr> litropy, first check, double check, and check again if the card is just muted, then from a terminal run lspci (assuming its a pci card) and look for your sound card, then hop on google and see what module it uses and check to see if its loaded with lsmod
[06:57] <cfhowlett> abdullah, no worries
[06:57] <litropy> Yay, RiXtEr. Reading and executing.
[06:58] <kunji> RiXtEr: That's really strange, I thought that would have deleted in seconds.
[06:59] <RiXtEr> kunji, what I can tell you is I was at 100% inode usage (df -i) and now I am at 11%
[06:59] <RiXtEr> /dev/sda1            16138240 1679125 14459115   11% /
[07:00] <RiXtEr> kunji, and if what I read was right, 1 file takes 1 inode, so I cleared 14459115 files already.
[07:01] <RiXtEr> kunji, and gaining...
[07:01] <RiXtEr> 14466615 in just the amount of time we talked..
[07:01] <kunji> RiXtEr: Hmm, I don't know what to think of that, I've never seen something like that.  I guess I've heard of an attack or two designed to fill a disk, but I've never seen it happen.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> kunji, this is either a samba or cups bug, its a print spooler directory.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> kunji, which I know some of the samba devs personally, so I will hit them up first.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> (I know just last week they revamped a lot of the printing code)
[07:04] <kunji> RiXtEr: Isn't the print spool a notorious attack vector on windows?  Or am I getting mixed up with something else?  It certainly could be a bug, not something I've seen before, but yeah, those could certainly be involved, the devs will know much more than I do ^_^
[07:04] <RiXtEr> kunji, by my math, if I have killed of 90% in 10 hours, then the next 10% should only take maybe 1 more hour ;)
[07:04] <kunji> RiXtEr: When it gets down to 5% it will trigger a regen :P
[07:05] <RiXtEr> kunji, not funny.
[07:05] <RiXtEr> ;)
[07:05] <RiXtEr> Thanks for the help guys, I am out.
[07:12] <CHIex> what would be the minimum advised computer requirements to be able to open a lot of videos in UBUNTU?
[07:13] <CHIex> I mean YOUTUBE and similar...
[07:13] <CHIex> a lot of tabs open in browser
[07:13] <chriys> does someone can try this website and tell me if it works. Im verifying if its accessible from outsite thanks http://regroupementjeunesseenaction.com
[07:14] <cfhowlett> CHIex, minimum advice is just don't.  YT is a known resource hog in ANY system.
[07:14] <rypervenche> chriys: En dehors de quoi ?
[07:14] <kunji> CHIex:...flash... umm, I don't know about minimum, I don't have anything in between a 1.6 dual core and a 3.2 quad core.  The 1.6 is not really up to handling a lot of flash videos.
[07:14] <cfhowlett> CHIex, grab the firefox extension to download those videos for offline viewing
[07:14] <DR01D-Engineer> is anyone else getting weird pms?
[07:14] <rypervenche> DR01D-Engineer: Yep.
[07:15] <CHIex> well its mostly illegal to download videos, isnt it?
[07:15] <chriys> rypervenche j'essaie de voir s'il est accessible hors de mon réseau local parce que je peux y accéder moi. Je l'ai placé sur le port 8080 parce que le 80 est bloqué
[07:15] <cfhowlett> CHIex, mostly no
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !fr|chriys,
[07:15] <kunji> DR01D-Engineer: Yeah, not sure how to report that, they all want people to joing the calculus and philosophy channel...
[07:15] <rypervenche> chriys: Let's chat is PM
[07:15] <rypervenche> in*
[07:15] <CHIex> on youtube is allowed to download videos?
[07:16] <chriys> ok thanks. sorry for french
[07:16] <DR01D-Engineer> yeh
[07:16] <cfhowlett> CHIex, see vimeo.  Download option right on the page.  Also see mininova for free movie downloads
[07:17] <kunji> CHIex: I'm not sure about the youtube terms of service, but the youtube-dl package will download youtube videos, just remember to update it using the method in the program after installing it, the version in the repos is old.
[07:17] <rooty_> hey!!!
[07:17] <rooty_> whats up
[07:19] <purplerain> my Ubuntu sometimes failed to boot, what should i look at?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> CHIex, there are LOTS of free movies, videos and such available legally.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> purplerain, not enough info ...
[07:20] <kunji> cfhowlett: I think he's asking what info to gather, but yeah a better description of the failure would be good.
[07:21] <pnkbst> how do I run other window managers in ubuntu 12.10?  the old way of apt-get installing, rebooting and selecting the new wm at login doesn't seem to be an option anymore
[07:21] <purplerain> cfhowlett: idk what info i should provide, it just failed to boot after BIOS screen
[07:21] <cfhowlett> purplerain, could be hardware or software.  Are you dualbooting?  Is it only ubuntu failing to boot?   Is there any other off-key behavior you've noticed?
[07:21] <kunji> purplerain: a good first place to check is /var/log/syslog, also /var/log/xorg.0.log
[07:21] <cfhowlett> purplerain, did it free altogether or what?
[07:22] <kunji> purplerain: After bios screen, but before GRUB2?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> *freeze**
[07:22] <purplerain> kunji: after GRUB2
[07:23] <kunji> purplerain: Mmmk, does the OS start to load, if so, then I would expect some useful info in the syslog
[07:24] <kunji> purplerain: Unfortunately I'm no expert, but post the syslog and any xorg logs in /var/log and it will help others to help you.
[07:25] <kunji> purplerain: Also maybe dmesg and the kernel log, though I think problems there are less common.
[07:26] <timfrost> chriys: what are you trying to test? I can resolve your IP, but HTTP to it is blocked
[07:27] <chriys> yeah i know i just need my website to work
[07:27] <chriys> using different port
[07:27] <hillary> how do empty tmp folder in ubuntu 12.04
[07:27] <savagecroc> how do i set a path for a system user in ubuntu?
[07:27] <savagecroc> permantly that is
[07:27] <kunji> hillary: You can just delete the stuff in it like any other folder, also it is cleared on a reboot.
[07:27] <savagecroc> and is there someway i can set it for all the system users
[07:28] <savagecroc> add to /etc/environment or /etc/profile?   also i need it to work for multiple shells
[07:28] <hillary> kunji, ok. how about removing junks from my system 12.04?
[07:29] <kunji> hillary: What sort of junk?  apt-get clean comes to mind.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> hillary, apt-get clean && apt-get autoremove
[07:30] <eric_> Hey
[07:30] <purplerain> kunji: the OS doesnt start i guess, i dont use the plymouth so it just the _ that keeps blinking
[07:30] <cfhowlett> eric_, greetigns
[07:31] <eric_> Can I ask if anyone knows when we can get Ubuntu on our phones?
[07:31] <kunji> hillary: be careful with autoremove, just make sure to read anything it wants to remove and verify that you actually want to remove it.  But it's typically safe
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !phone|eric_,
[07:32] <hillary> kunji, when i start libreoffice i get a pop which says
[07:32] <hillary> kunji, "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli"
[07:32] <timfrost> chriys: I suspect that you need to talk to your ISP (videotron?) - it is possible that they may be blocking all traffic not initiated by you. A dynamic DNS service might work (dyndns.com or the like) if protocol blocks aren't the issue
[07:33] <kunji> hillary: I saw you mention that earlier, I don't know anything about it, otherwise I would have tried to help then.
[07:33] <CHIex> UBUNTU has some special IRC rooms for begginers?
[07:33] <chriys> ok i see. thanks for advie timfrost
[07:33] <hillary> what could have coused that?
[07:34] <kunji> hillary: Maybe it will be easier to find someone that knows by going directly to the libreoffice support?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> hillary, run your updates.  If that fails, you might need to sudo apt-get install libreoffice --reinstall
[07:35] <cfhowlett> hillary, and libreoffice support is highly recommended as this might not be an ubuntu glitch
[07:35] <hillary> cfhowlett, what caused this  "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli" when i start libre office
[07:37] <hillary> cfhowlett, could you be having there link?
[07:38] <CHIex> do you have any IRC channels for begginers?
[07:39] <vijay_> hi,  ':is not a valid identifier  error in terminal.  pls is not a valid identifier help on this....
[07:39] <kostkon> !irc | CHIex
[07:40] <kunji> hillary: I don't know and I don't think he does either.  From the error, well, the document might be gone, corrupted, or misformatted, or it could be a bug with how libreoffice parses the file, there are a lot of possibilities.  Try the channel #libreoffice
[07:40] <Ububegin> I have a video file in ogv format and a few audio files in wav format.. I want to add them together so that I can place the audio files at certain segments in the video file.. Any ubuntu sw capable for this ?
[07:41] <kunji> CHIex: Beginner can ask questions here, that's not a problem.
[07:43] <kunji> Ububegin: Maybe Audacity?
[07:45] <Ububegin> kunji: now i am trying openshot.. I will try audacity ... tks.. :)
[07:46] <PatrickC> i have the ubuntu mini iso, and just flashed it to my usb drive
[07:46] <PatrickC> but it says "ERROR: No configuration file found"
[07:46] <PatrickC> and i am just at a boot prompt
[07:46] <subdesign> hi any quick help with "No system traya detected on this system" error?
[07:46] <subdesign> -a
[07:54] <subdesign> can I reach Startup applications from command line?
[07:55] <phoenixsampras> is there something i can do to improve the Unity performance? ive already have nvidia drivers..... its a bit better, but its lame compared to fedora for example..... help plz
[07:56] <sgo11> join #rsync
[07:56] <kunji> subdesign: yes... but I forget how T.T, some googling will probably turn it up pretty easily.
[07:57] <subdesign> yes meantime got it
[07:57] <kunji> subdesign: ^_^
[07:57] <subdesign> then where i found the startup prog. settings?
[07:58] <subdesign> i need to modify the hp settings to work with my task bar
[07:59] <kunji> subdesign: hp?  task bar?
[07:59] <kunji> !details | subdesign
[07:59] <subdesign> ok this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system
[08:02] <subdesign> can find the path of autostart apps
[08:03] <WhiteRook> Anyone have experience dualbooting Ubuntu and WIN 8 AND/OR running it in VirtualBox?
[08:04] <fas> WhiteRook: both
[08:04] <fas> Successfully
[08:04] <hillary> when i click on libreoffice writer it opens terminal window. whats up?
[08:04] <fas> I'm on Win8 right now with 12.04 desktop on another partition
[08:05] <kunji> subdesign: Does this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74031/startup-applications-missing-from-system-settings-screen-where-can-i-find-it  ?  Also it sounds like an update fixed that problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/335662  Have you tried updating?  Your problem might be with a different application?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the command to adjust update alternatives?
[08:05] <WhiteRook> I am trying to avoid losing my current install of Win8 (dont have files to reinstall programs) but dont know whether I would be better off dual booting or using VM to run Ubuntu
[08:05] <dysun> Hi all. I installed GNS3 from source doing the make/make install. i was wondering how I can figure out where the program is located
[08:05] <kunji> WhiteRook: Yes indeed, though not using gpt if that's what your setup is.
[08:06] <subdesign> kunji, i installed yesterday latest hp driver, and have the prob so..
[08:06] <fas> dysun: most likely in that directory
[08:06] <fas> idk GNS3 though
[08:06] <fas> just a guess
[08:06] <opalepatrick> I keep moaning about this. unity 12.10 64bit - Every boot up, the hud and launcher are behind all the startup programmes or any that I open. Have logout/in to fix. Any clues what may cause this?
[08:06] <fas> if you didn't add it to your bin/ you won't beable to just call it from command line
[08:06] <hillary> kunji, Help me my ubuntu 12.04 messing me up. when i click libreoffice writer it opens terminal window instead
[08:07] <kunji> WhiteRook: I like to dualboot for the better performance, but you would need to be careful doing the formatting.  A virtual machines is the most fool proof way to keep windows running as normal.
[08:07] <fas> Wubi is pretty good, but kinda slow
[08:07] <fas> Dual booting is pretty sure-fire
[08:08]  * gnomefreak cant reproduce that issue hillary  sorry not much help
[08:08] <dysun> fas: Is there a way to find it? It's been a while since installed the thing. If I do the apt-get install GNS3, it runs an older version f GNS3. I wanted a newer version so i compiled it all from source. If i have the apt-get install instance of GNS3 and i run gns3, it runs the older one, but if I remove it, ti'll run the one i compiled.
[08:08] <fas> If you make a backup of win8 first you should be safe
[08:08] <subdesign> kunji, the bug you pasted, comment #10, where to find this code line?
[08:08] <kunji> fas: Wubi isn't really slow, Wubi installs are also not virtual machines.
[08:09] <fas> kunji: my experience has been noticeably slower, but better than VM
[08:09] <fas> wubi is sightly better at keeping win8 in tact though compared to dual booting
[08:09] <WhiteRook> I want to go ahead and repartition now just in case, any suggestions on how much space on my primary HDD to allocate for use in the event I dual boot? Including swap and any other partitions i may need, total size?
[08:09] <fas> dysun: sorry, someone else might know
[08:09] <phoenixsampras> what is wubi?
[08:10] <fas> WhiteRook: how much physical ram
[08:10] <WhiteRook> Wubi is a loader for windows systems i think
[08:10] <somsip> !wubi | phoenixsampras
[08:10] <hillary> i should embark on serious reading of ubuntu linux. where are the best easy to learn materials
[08:10] <WhiteRook> 8GB physical
[08:10] <dysun> fas: ok. the question i guess is really more about where software packages go
[08:10] <fas> hillary: the main site
[08:10] <dysun> fas: thanks though
[08:10] <kunji> fas: Yeah, that's what I mean, it is somewhat slower than a native install, but I find it vastly faster than in a virtual machine, but that's probably less noticeable on systems where you can devote more resources to the VM.