[00:18] <illuminated> pronounced uhhbuntu or ewwwbuntu
[00:19] <madmangun> oo-boon-too
[00:19] <madmangun> https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[01:18] <halvard> My program menu is stuck on the middle of the screen.. How can I restart the dekstop windows manager?
[02:00] <Steven_M> Hi, is ubuntu 16.04.3 still supported?
[02:03] <hggdh> 16.04 is supported untl 2021
[02:04] <nacc> Steven_M: 16.04.3 itself, which implies a very specific kernel, is not
[02:04] <nacc> Steven_M: you should be on 16.04.5 now, and running either a 4.4 or 4.15 kernel, I believe
[02:13] <Steven_M> nacc: Understood :-), I just hope I won't have the same nvidia issues that I'm having with 18.10.
[02:18] <ntd> nacc, did you get anywhere further?
[02:19] <nacc> ntd: sadly no
[02:19] <ntd> any plans for alt kernel for bionic?
[02:19] <ntd> getting 18.10 kernel
[02:27] <texla> I have lost my command to show how much unused space i have left on my hdd..anyone help
[02:29] <slidinghorn> texla, df -h
[02:30] <texla> slidinghorn, Thanks for the info
[02:30] <nacc> ntd: you mean hwe, and yes, eventually i assume so
[02:32] <MannyL> I figured out my sound issue from the past is because I'm an idiot who forgot when I changed main computers I was using a DVI to HDMI adapter so there was no sound. I am low looking for a USB video adaper that has HDMI and most that I found say the don't support linux. Does anyone here use one that they can reccomend? An internal video card is not an option.
[02:46] <cihhan> hi all. i m trying to build a wifi hotspot but im having a problem with the password. somehow the computers say incorrect password whatever i try. here is my hostapd.conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NdbcNqbRHg/ -- anybody has any suggestions please?
[02:59] <cihhan> hi all. i m trying to build a wifi hotspot but im having a problem with the password. somehow the computers say incorrect password whatever i try. here is my hostapd.conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NdbcNqbRHg/ -- anybody has any suggestions please?
[03:13] <cihhan> hi all. i m trying to build a wifi hotspot but im having a problem with the password. somehow the computers say incorrect password whatever i try. here is my hostapd.conf: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NdbcNqbRHg/ -- anybody has any suggestions please?
[03:36] <krytarik> cihhan: A little more patience than 15 mins seems to be in order currently. >_>
[03:46] <drmessano> Hello all, have a question about Chromium in Ubuntu.  I just got a 2017 Macbook and am planning to dual boot with Ubuntu.  In looking through the Chromium builds for OSX and Linux, to find the OSX build I want, I guess I am a little out of touch which channel or channels are the "chromium-browser" in Ubuntu.
[03:47] <drmessano> Is chromium-browser the Chromium nightly at some point where someone decided to update the package?
[03:47] <drmessano> I haven't paid attention to the various chrome builds in years.  Didn't know they had beta, canary, and nightly
[03:48] <drmessano> But it looks like the only one the label "Chromium" is the nightly..
[03:49] <OerHeks> 70 is current, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium-browser
[03:50] <OerHeks> dunno about Chromium builds for OSX, nor on windows, those version numbers can be confusing
[03:52] <drmessano> Yeah, I really want the same level of stability/instability as I guess what i've run in Ubuntu all these years.  I'm looking at what's 70 in Win/OSX
[04:04] <drmessano> OerHeks: Thanks.. It doesn't look like there's a 1-for-1 Chromium for OSX.. No biggie, i'm still gonna do most of my highly suspicious browsing in Ubuntu anyway
[04:54] <raj> is there a more bleeding edge flavor of ubuntu?
[04:55] <epicmetal> raj: Sid :)
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> raj: for more latest packages, try a non-LTS of ubuntu
[04:56] <raj> epicmetal, that's debian, no?
[04:56] <epicmetal> raj: yes, hence the emoticon. Ubuntu derives from Sid
[04:57] <epicmetal> raj: but what lotuspsychje said (18.10)
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> raj: or if you want more experimental, the disco dingo
[04:58] <epicmetal> Does a fully patched 18.10 run 4.19+ ?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: there are known problems with 4.19 kernel, stay away from it , yet :p
[04:59] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: that's why I'm asking
[04:59] <epicmetal> lotuspsychje: does 18.10 stay away from it
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic cosmic
[05:00] <epicmetal> thanks
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: if you stay away from the mainline :p
[05:00] <epicmetal> I wonder how many Arch users got burned
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> epicmetal: or help bugging out, also an option
[05:00] <epicmetal> Huh
[05:01] <epicmetal> Gotta go
[05:01] <raj> thanks epicmetal lotuspsychje
[05:07] <klu3> What happens if I DD command a 256gb HDD to 250gb HDD ?
[05:16] <xet7> klu3: 256gb hdd does not fit to 250gb HDD. You need to make last partitions on 256gb hdd smaller first, before dd.
[05:19] <robert45> hi guys, my syslog log is flooding with all these messages, anyone knows what is it? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JT8HScFkhH/
[05:21] <slidinghorn> robert45, are you in china?
[05:21] <robert45> slidinghorn no, why
[05:21] <slidinghorn> because the login attempt was from an IP near Baotou, China
[05:23] <katronix> Hi all, having an interesting issue. Under kernel 4.18.0-10-generic, my built in wifi works, however under 4.18.0-12-generic while its recognized under lspci it doesn't do anything. Can anyone suggest what changes I need to make so that I don't have to keep running the older kernel?
[05:25] <katronix> here is what lspci -vv says about my wifi: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/76nH4pxgyV/
[05:30] <robert45> slidinghorn I was talking about the other systemd lines
[05:36] <CrazyH> Ubuntu 16.04> When I log in using my laptop ( connected to an external monitor ), I'm able to select Applications:> SystemTools:> System Settings:> Displays:> Mirror Displays ( check box ):> Apply ( button ).  It works fine no problem. The monitor shows exactly what my laptop screen shows. The problem is that every time I reboot, I have to go through the same procedure over and over again. How can I perminantly set it to just ALWAYS m
[05:36] <CrazyH> irror the display when an external monitor is present?
[05:37] <katronix> Or would there be a better channel to discuss my issue in? (or I suppose a better time :))
[05:37] <CrazyH> katronix, sorry man, I just logged in. What is your problem?
[05:41] <katronix> CrazyH, my desktop has a built in wifi. under  kernel 4.18.0-10-generic it works out of the box, but when the system upgraded to  kernel 4.18.0-12-generic the kernel is still seen by lspci but it doesn't do anything
[05:42] <katronix> CrazyH: here is what lspci -vv says about my wifi: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/76nH4pxgyV/
[05:42] <katronix> err kernel = wifi lol
[05:42] <gambl0r3> is there a way to have a split view when using the terminal?
[05:43] <CrazyH> gambl0r3, yes, you can use the screen utility to do ALL kinds of cool terminal control stuff.
[05:43] <CrazyH> gambl0r3, you'll have to read up on it, but when it comes to terminals, there isn't much that screen can't do
[05:44] <gambl0r3> got it working. thanks
[05:45] <CrazyH> katronix, well, it seems like the kernal is happy with your Wifi hardware. What app are you using to configure the connection and connect. Is it the default Wifi app?
[05:46] <katronix> CrazyH, no I was using the default Ubuntu app to configure it
[05:46] <katronix> CrazyH, under the newer Kernel it says I have no Wifi hardware :(
[05:46] <CrazyH> katronix, yeah, that's what I mean. The default Ubuntu wifi app
[05:47] <katronix> CrazyH, then yes I am :)
[05:47] <CrazyH> katronix, I have problems with that app ALL the time. It seems to be somewhat buggy.
[05:48] <CrazyH> katronix, all I'm saying is, don't assume that it's the hardware. It might just be a simple app issue
[05:49] <katronix> CrazyH, any suggestions? staying in an old kernel doesn't seem like the brightest of ideas lol
[05:50] <CrazyH> katronix, first of all, check demsg and /var/log/syslog for errors pertaining to your wifi card
[05:50] <CrazyH> katronix, if you don't find anything there, given that lsmod seems to also be happy, I would venture to guess that the problem is the app
[05:51] <CrazyH> but if you do find a problem in one of those places, then you might have a hardware conf issue which you will need to chace down
[05:53] <katronix> hmmmm, my log files only show this run :(
[06:00] <katronix> CrazyH, guess I have to reboot again
[06:01] <lapion> hmm are packages deleted as soon as they have been installed byt apt ?
[06:09] <katronix> hi CrazyH https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/g6Jz7ymjzd/ here both work
[06:09] <katronix> (and non working)
[06:09] <CrazyH> katronix, what do to mean? Does it work, or not?
[06:10] <katronix> CrazyH, Under the old kernel yes, I put in that url the output of /var/log/syslog for both when it does and doesn't work
[06:13] <CrazyH> well, what does it say now? I don't really care about what it used to say. What does it say now?
[06:14] <ducasse> katronix: can you pastebin the output from 'lspci -k' when it doesn't work?
[06:15] <sixpack> hey all hope all is well! I am wondering how to increase my wifi speed by changing to full duplex 100 instead of current 10 half... googled and found too many old bs solutions that dont work.. anyone have a tip?
[06:16] <sixpack> tried this:  sudo ethtool -s wlo1 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
[06:16] <sixpack> didnt work
[06:16] <sixpack> sudo iwconfig
[06:16] <sixpack> wlo1      IEEE 802.11  ESSID:"Surveillance Van 1"
[06:16] <sixpack>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: BC:2E:48:F4:D8:19
[06:16] <sixpack>           Bit Rate=21.7 Mb/s   Tx-Power=30 dBm
[06:16] <sixpack>           Retry short  long limit:2   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:16] <sixpack>           Encryption key:off
[06:16] <sixpack>           Power Management:off
[06:17] <ducasse> !paste | sixpack
[06:18] <sixpack> sorry about the flood but that is all it showed so I didnt think to pastbin it
[06:20] <lapion> hmm what hapened to gksudo, and how can I use admin:// in it's place ?
[06:21] <lapion> and why am I being asked to select a user when I have sudo rights
[06:22] <sixpack> omg I just found some info that says full duplex is not possible for wifi
[06:23] <lapion> why doesn't it just defaut to current user
[06:23] <Woet> most of my 18.04 servers has the "123 packages can be updated, 123 are security updates" in the motd, but one of them doesn't have any at all.  is it overwritten by the "Canonical Livepatch is enabled." one? is it possible to get it back?
[06:25] <Woet> hm, "90-updates-available" is missing in /etc/update-motd.d for some reason.
[06:28] <Woet> ok, installing update-notifier-common fixed it. thanks anyways.
[06:36] <lapion> so there is no actual usefull replacement for gksu(do) for running applications such as synaptic
[06:37] <lapion> well acutally the problem with synaptic is that it is run with synaptic.pkexec and then the system will ask which user to select in stead simply assuming the current user want to run it
[07:13] <Chaser> Hello when using task switching the order of windows keeps changing and its extremely annoying to cycle through all the windows. Is there a way to keep the order unchanged ?
[07:15] <Chaser> or is it possible to ungroup the windows by the application so that I can hit the window I need with single action ?
[07:19] <krytarik> lapion: And why is being asked a problem there?
[07:23] <gambl0r3> using sass, how can i add a css property to a parent element only if a child element exists?
[07:28] <lapion> krytarik, nvm the problem was related to a broken upgrade
[07:55] <pinkisntwell_> Can I use the standard LTS ubuntu as a "live usb" as well?
[07:55] <pinkisntwell_> To use ubuntu without affecting the hard drive?
[07:56] <geirha> yes
[08:08] <ducasse> gambl0r3: you can probably find a better place to ask that question
[08:08] <ducasse> ask !alis
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> Chaser: for ungrouping windows we have users switching to kubuntu for a better experience
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> Chaser: on gnome, there's activities button, alt+tab and super+pgdn for easy working, and workspaces
[08:17] <pi0> is it possible to create a password usb drive boot
[08:18] <pi0> in ubuntu
[08:19] <ducasse> you can create an encrypted usb
[08:21] <pi0> but how will the os know to look out for it
[08:23] <afx_> Hello everyone ! On Ubuntu 18.04 Gnome there are times the wifi icon is missing from top right panel . Something like the bug described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1755986
[08:23] <afx_> Is there any fix for this ?
[08:24] <afx_> The issue can be illustrated in this pic https://launchpadlibrarian.net/364815822/Screenshot%20from%202018-04-12%2016-23-22.png
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> afx_: is your system up to date?
[08:25] <afx_> lotuspsychje, it is yes
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> afx_: wifi chipset please?
[08:25] <afx_> lotuspsychje, let me check
[08:25] <afx_> wifi is working correctly by the way
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[08:25] <afx_> the icon is missing
[08:27] <afx_> lotuspsychje, wireless 8260 intel corpo
[08:28] <ducasse> pi0: you have an unencrypted /boot partition, or set grub up to unlock it
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> afx_: have you affect yourself to the bug?
[08:28] <afx_> lotuspsychje, what do you mean ?
[08:29] <afx_> ah sorry there are some updates. Let me install those !
[08:29] <afx_> Although after restart the problem fixes
[08:29] <afx_> But occasionally it reappears
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> afx_: update to .42 kernel first & reboot, then lets debug again
[08:29] <afx_> let me restart for a moment
[08:30] <afx_> thankyou !
[08:34] <afx_> lotuspsychje, same problem with .42 kernel installed and after restart
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> afx_: didnt you say after a reboot it fixxed?
[08:34] <afx_> lotuspsychje, on some occasions yes
[08:34] <pi0> shoot is there a tutorial on this?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> ah
[08:34] <afx_> not everytime obv :(
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> afx_: was this a clean install or an lts upgrade?
[08:35] <afx_> lotuspsychje, clean install
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> afx_: ok that sounds like a bug then
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> afx_: you have time to file a new !bug with me?
[08:36] <afx_> lotuspsychje, also on gnome-tweaks I was advised to enable : "Ubuntu appindicators" and "Ubuntu dock" , but this didn't make any difference
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> afx_: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[08:37] <afx_> lotuspsychje, no time but let's do this anygay
[08:37] <afx_> anyway*
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> afx_: will take few minutes
[08:37] <afx_> ok let's go
[08:37] <afx_> :)
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> afx_: in your bug description, add the screenshot and your story, feel free to add the bug url after
[08:38] <afx_> the bug url I pasted earlier?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> afx_: no, the new one that will be created from you
[08:38] <afx_> you mean paste it here
[08:38] <afx_> ok
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[08:40] <ducasse> pi0: i don't know of any, try a web search
[08:42] <pi0> ducasse: will do, but what keywords should i use when searching?
[08:43] <ducasse> pi0: "create encrypted ubuntu usb drive", maybe - you might need to try a few
[08:46] <afx_> lotuspsychje, this is the same bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1774957 . Should I click on "Yes,this is the bug I'm trying to report' ?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> afx_: nice find, yes you can use that bug
[08:47] <pi0> thank you!
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> afx_: add your story there if you like
[08:59] <afx_> lotuspsychje, ok I will
[09:04] <ducasse> afx_: the more people who say they are affected, the more attention the bug gets
[09:04] <ducasse> (and the faster it is fixed)
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> +1
[09:08] <pi0> be right bck
[09:08] <afx_> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1774957
[09:08] <afx_> ducasse,
[09:10] <midori-rus> hello there. I am trying to upgade ubuntu 16.04 desktop to 18.04. I am running a command "do-release-upgrade" in console and got an error "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.". After that I am trying to upgrade packages using command apt update && apt -y upgrade
[09:10] <midori-rus> After that I have got an error that libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa:i386 libgbm1 libgbm1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 did not updated
[09:10] <midori-rus> should I remove this packages to update my OS?
[09:13] <ducasse> midori-rus: try 'apt full-upgrade', if that fails try 'apt install -f'
[09:14] <midori-rus> ducasse: I have ran it. There is 6 packages which did not updated
[09:14] <midori-rus> libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa:i386 libgbm1 libgbm1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[09:32] <afx_> Following this guide https://lampjs.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/remapchange-your-secondaryusb-keyboard-keys/ , there is one comment stating that by unplugging the keyboard the layout will get lost . Is that true with xkbcomp ?
[09:36] <Galactor> Hello! I am running i3wm on lubuntu, with no changes made to its config. Does anybody know how to make the terminal slightly transparent? I am not sure which terminal I am using, how to find out, or how to adjust the settings.
[09:36] <Galactor> not a life or death thing, but I haven't been able to figure it out
[09:37] <ducasse> Galactor: first of all you need to run a compositor, then you need a terminal that supports transparency
[09:38] <zetheroo> Is there any way in Ubuntu 18.04 for the WiFi to automatically be disabled/turned off/disconnected when an Ethernet connection is active?
[09:38] <ducasse> Galactor: i3 does not officially support compositors, btw, so you're on your own if you get problems
[09:41] <Galactor> ducasse: ah I see. A lot of trouble for a little thing. Thanks for the info
[09:42] <ducasse> Galactor: it's not really hard to set up, just install compton or xcompmgr, run it in the background, and set transparency in your terminal
[09:44] <Kazdax> is kubuntu is better looking desktop than the default gnome ?
[09:45] <ducasse> Kazdax: "better looking" is highly subjective
[09:45] <ducasse> Kazdax: also depends on how they are configured
[09:54] <Kazdax> i notice ubuntu runs much faster than windows
[09:55] <Kazdax> like when it boots up ..it loads all the icons and you can just start working without having to wait for all the tasks to startup
[09:55] <Kazdax> then i guess maybe windows has more tasks ..but for the normal work i do on my computer..like browsing , chatting and youtube ..it all works just fine
[10:00]  * BDbas o/
[10:06] <coconut> Kazdax: there is a category "pleasing to work with" too. (at least under linux there is)
[10:07] <coconut> Kazdax: for you to decide what that is
[10:11] <coconut> Is there any alarm function for the battery systray app so that it alarms when adapter should connect/disconnect?
[10:12] <coconut> Configured on %.
[10:27] <sentiment> hello. can someone using bionic check the following on theie system?
[10:27] <sentiment> gstreamer1.0-python3-plugin-loader : Conflicts: gstreamer1.0-python3-dbg-plugin-loader
[10:27] <viktor> after changing my password, kwallet asks for my password again every time after log in. this is really annoying. how do i fix this? (running kubuntu 18.04)
[10:28] <sentiment> is there such conflict after issuing apt-get --reinstall gstreamer1.0* ?
[10:36] <Denis80> hi there. is it possible to install subj on md raid5 ? i failed on grub-install stage ^(
[10:59] <computeiro> I use Eclipse in Ubuntu, the keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+arrow_down is very important for me and I cant disable in Ubuntu. I would like leave to Eclipse this shortcut
[11:05] <computeiro> In Ubuntu keyboard shortcut, I not found `ctrl+alt+arrow_down`
[11:08] <Ben64> computeiro: it's in mine, maybe look harder?
[11:17] <Anthaas> Anybody here use Evolution as a mail client? Every time I try to interact with an existing contact (update, delete, etc.) it says "Failed to [action] contact, Contact ID already exists"
[11:20] <zetheroo> from time to time duplicate hosts pop up randomly. What causes this and how to stop it from happening?
[11:20] <zetheroo> ^ ignore that ... wrong channel :P
[11:28] <necrophcodr> I know this is not really relevant to Ubuntu, but I'm not sure where else to post. Does anyone know if it's possible when creating an Outlook account, how to specify the username for the account? It doesn't appear possible here.
[11:30] <Mathisen> necrophcodr, maybe ask in ##windows-social or ##windows
[11:30] <necrophcodr> Mathisen, thanks!
[11:58] <nullifidian> Anyone has experience with 10bit per channel monitors on linux?
[11:58] <dreamon> hello. after systemupdates I cannot boot into gui. having a notebook with intel gpu Graphics 620. I can only boot in recovery mode. or settng nomodeset n /etc/default/grub options. what can I do?
[12:20] <swensson> Installaing a CMS to my site.. But it want writeaccess to /tmp :O How can I fix this?
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> swensson: what kind of service? running ubuntu server?
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> afternoon ioria
[12:34] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi lotus; you too
[12:48] <katronix> Hi all, anyone available to help me with a driver issue? My box has a built in wifi and I've found under Kernel 4.18.0-10-generic it works out of the box, but under 4.18.0-12-generic its not seen (though lspci still shows it)
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> katronix: didnt you share this with us yesterday?
[12:51] <katronix> lotuspsychje, it was early this morning for me, but fell asleep before it was fixed :(
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> katronix: i would advice a new !bug for this, as you can reproduce this issue on a different kernel
[12:53] <katronix> lotuspsychje, I've only seen it on one kernel, one it works one it doesn't. Would like to fix it so it doesn't happen at all, but yes a bug should probably be submitted for it
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> katronix: if you would take your time to create the bug, would be great for the community, and yourself
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> katronix: ubuntu-bug linux
[12:54] <katronix> lotuspsychje, do I do that as a shell command?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> katronix: yes from the terminal, you can create the bug like this
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> katronix: maybe logged on as your affected kernel
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> (if you can get online over cable)
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> katronix: that will transfer you to the launchpad, from there you can add your story
[12:56] <katronix> lotuspsychje, if I can't get on line with the affected kernel, can I run the command from the affected one but delay uploading it till I'm online?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> katronix: then file the bug with a working kernel no problem. just add your story to the bug then, wich kernel affected and wich not
[12:58] <katronix> k
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> katronix: feel free to share the bugs link afterwards to us
[12:59] <katronix> k
[13:00] <ioria> katronix, is secure boot enabled ?
[13:03] <katronix> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1807388
[13:03] <katronix> ioria, I don't believe so
[13:04] <epicmetal> Are the apt-src repos generally available for PPAs? I don't trust random binaries and want a more AUR-like experience, where you can audit the debian/rules and then decide to build.
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> katronix: thank you for taking your time to file the bug!
[13:05] <katronix> lotuspsychje, np, is it possible to configure grub to boot into the working version of the system till the bug is fixed? by default it wants to do the newer one which then means no wifi
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> katronix: its not very reccomended to keep running older kernels for security reasons
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> katronix: i would suggest perhaps a higher !mainline kernel?
[13:07] <katronix> lotuspsychje, yes but linux isn't as much fun offline lol, do you mean build it myself?
[13:07] <katronix> or just get a newer one from kernel.org?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> katronix: a few ideas for  faster bug solve is: test things out yourself, find other users affected
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | katronix compile is not needed :p
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> katronix: every time you test something, add it to the bug ok
[13:08] <katronix> k
[13:09] <kreyren> Where is ubuntu's kernel saved? I want to invoke `make install` to copy kernel image for ubuntu in /boot.
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> katronix: also keep in mind, 18.10 is a non-lts version, did you try your wifi on LTS?
[13:09] <kreyren> since i can't find it in /usr/src
[13:09] <kreyren> ah nwm its in /usr/src im dumb
[13:10] <katronix> lotuspsychje, no I didn't would that require a complete re-install?
[13:11] <ntd> will there be an upgraded policykit today?
[13:11] <kreyren> is invoking `make && make modules_install && make install` the correct approach to compile ubuntu's kernel?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> kreyren: we dont reccomend compiling own kernels, use !mainline instead
[13:12] <kreyren> mainline meaning?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ntd: for package questions, ask in #ubuntu-release
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | kreyren existing kernels here ==>
[13:13] <kreyren> like i'm aware that ubuntu's kernel is full of `y` and `m` so its going to take forever.. but i need it recompiled for script to fix boot in case its corrupted by other distro
[13:13] <kreyren> ah  i see
[13:14] <katronix> lotuspsychje, would you recommend that I do a mainline kernel or switch to LTS more?
[13:14] <kreyren> lotuspsychje: and if i wanted to compile it myself can i invoke mensioned commands?
[13:14] <blackflow> kreyren: can't treat ubuntu like gentoo. it's unforgiving to tiniest of mistakes.
[13:14] <ntd> is there a non-intrusive way to get 18.10 (4.18) kernel on bionic?
[13:14] <kreyren> blackflow: i know i'm trying to stabilize it
[13:14] <ntd> alternatively the xenial kernel (4.4
[13:15] <blackflow> kreyren: then sure, those steps are linux kernel specific, not ubuntu
[13:15] <kreyren> blackflow: but im asking if thats the correct approach for compiling ubuntu's kernel since some distros might change the process
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> katronix: test both :p
[13:15] <blackflow> kreyren: just be careful, ubuntu has certain ubuntu specific patches (called "SAUCE") so removing them or not using ubuntu source, might render your system unusable.
[13:15] <kreyren> i'm aware of it thanks for warning
[13:16] <kreyren> but those are present in .config right?
[13:16] <blackflow> kreyren: technically, you should be using the src deb, modify and install the package regularly but yeah, for testing purposes, you can run that series of steps
[13:16] <ioria> katronix, i don't see the wifi specs in your report
[13:16] <blackflow> kreyren: yes, if the source came from ubuntu
[13:16] <kreyren> ok thanks for info ;3
[13:17] <kreyren> blackflow: is there any special configuration that is required excluding SAUCE that might brick the system if removed from the kernel?
[13:17] <blackflow> kreyren: oh also make sure grub picks up any filename changes, run update-grub afterwards and re-check which kernel is being loaded
[13:17] <kreyren> noted
[13:17] <blackflow> kreyren: I would not specifically.
[13:18] <blackflow> *I would not know
[13:18] <kreyren> any place i can ask? I would like to make custom kernel for ubuntu for my usecase
[13:18] <katronix> ioria, which command should I run to get the needed info?
[13:18] <blackflow> kreyren: maybe #ubuntu-devel but you'll be met with "don't do it". ubuntu users aren't supposed to be power users with that level of detail of customization  :)
[13:19] <ioria> katronix, lspci -nnk
[13:20] <kreyren> noted thanks for info
[13:20] <katronix> ioria, updated
[13:21] <ioria> hug RTL8822BE
[13:22] <blackflow> ioria: kernel CoC "hug"?  :)
[13:23] <ioria> lol
[13:25] <kreyren> yep thats hugged up xD
[13:25] <ioria> katronix, mokutil --sb-state    what it tells ?
[13:25] <viktor> after changing my password, kwallet asks for my password again every time after log in. this is really annoying. how do i fix this? (running kubuntu 18.04)
[13:26] <Dragnslcr> Is the transcode package not in 18.10? It got uninstalled when I upgraded from 18.04, and now I don't see it in the repositories.
[13:26] <katronix> ioria, on the working kernel it says secureboot enabled
[13:26] <kreyren> blackflow: what is the ETA for answer on #ubuntu-devel? dont you know? :X
[13:26] <ioria> katronix, so go in bios anddisable it
[13:26] <kreyren> or shoudn't i ask on askubuntu ?
[13:27] <blackflow> kreyren: sorry, I don't know. most of my advanced questions there were unanswered
[13:27] <kreyren> i see o.o
[13:49] <HaMsTeRs> hello, anyone here using linuxsurface?
[13:49] <HaMsTeRs> I'm looking for a fully compatible kernel
[13:49] <HaMsTeRs> Thanks
[13:49] <slidinghorn> HaMsTeRs, try #kernel
[13:51] <HaMsTeRs> thank you
[14:17] <MJCD> Hiya I have a new install and I want a script to run for every user I adduser after now
[14:17] <MJCD> that runs when they first log in
[14:18] <MJCD> so 1) where's the skeleton
[14:18] <MJCD> 2) which is the correct script
[14:18] <MJCD> to just run when they FIRST log in
[14:19] <katronix> lotus|NUC, LTS version didn't work either :(
[14:23] <JimBuntu> MJCD, I suppose you could create a script within /etc/profile.d that checks the last time $USER logged in... if never, do your thing.
[14:23] <MJCD> JimBuntu, hm that sounds like a good idea
[14:23] <MJCD> better idea than having it delete itself
[14:24] <MJCD> which id imagine would delete a whole bunch of stuff removing their .bashrc or w/e
[14:25] <JimBuntu> There are a fair number of one-off options... such as having the default .bashrc look for the existence of a file in their ~/path/as/you/despire, if not there... run command and create the file in that location upon successful completion.
[14:25] <MJCD> simplest solution would be best
[14:26] <MJCD> someone else suggested systemd event hooks
[14:26] <MJCD> from what I understand systemd is pretty easy to work with
[14:29] <geirha> another option is to touch a file somewhere in .config/..., and not run if that file exists
[14:30] <geirha> a slight race condition there though, if the user decides to login multiple times at the same time
[14:30] <JimBuntu> Yeah, that's what I meant in my second option, although, I wouldn't put it in ~/.config only because sometimes people want to blast that away to start fresh
[14:32] <leftyfb> the script should remove whatever mechanism ran itself at the end of the script
[14:33] <geirha> that has the same race, but larger
[14:33] <Malgorath> Hey all, I'm trying to copy a file to a micro SD card and it keeps only mounting Read Only, I have locked and unlocked the tab on the card but still neither way lets me mount the card RW. I can only mount as RO and I see nothing on the drive. Google for 30 minutes without luck
[14:33] <JimBuntu> Malgorath, a quick thing to check... put tape on the switch area and reinsert. If that doesn't help, maybe some dmesg output pastebin'd in would be good
[14:34] <leftyfb> Malgorath: look in dmesg to see if there's I/O or CRC errors from the sd card. It might be bad
[14:35] <Malgorath> its brand new but as far as dmesg, its sdb1 and I see no entries but sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 62521344 512-byte logical blocks: (32.0 GB/29.8 GiB)
[14:37] <JimBuntu> silly question, but Malgorath, are you sure it's mounted as RO versus you simply not having permission to write to it?   mount | grep sdb
[14:42] <Malgorath> I am positive JimBuntu I have mounted it with RW as an option and it still craps back to RO
[14:42] <JimBuntu> Are you grepping dmesg when you only see that single line? If so, try only typing dmesg
[14:43] <JimBuntu> Malgorath, There was no message about an issue when you tried to mount it as RW and it came back as RO ?
[14:43] <leftyfb> Malgorath: if it's changing to RO, that will show up in logs and possibly explain why and is more likely due to a bad SD card or filesystem
[14:45] <MJCD> hey I completely can't remember
[14:45] <MJCD> I have 1 ubuntu system
[14:45] <MJCD> and I want like 5 people to remote in at once
[14:45] <leftyfb> !enter | MJCD
[14:47] <MJCD> apologies - what is the name of the technology i'm after? It's not rdp, it's not vnc as that's single user
[14:48] <leftyfb> MJCD: both of those technologies will do what you want, if each person has their own account and you set them up properly
[14:48] <leftyfb> MJCD: Why do you need 5 people logging into 1 machine with a GUI?
[14:48] <Malgorath> I got it to work finally, had to testdisk the drive then fdisk and rebuild partition then format
[14:48] <MJCD> leftyfb, I just want people to have it available. Some people prefer gui's
[14:49] <MJCD> and to have all their coding stuff on the dev server
[14:50] <leftyfb> MJCD: Do you really have multople developers developing GUI applications on a remote machine?
[14:51] <leftyfb> sounds very inefficient and self-defeating to me
[14:51] <MJCD> yes, we do, we were using vscode live sharing
[14:51] <MJCD> but it's not complete enough for general use
[14:54] <MJCD> so I guess realistically all they do is ssh in, and then if they want to, do like, xstart &
[14:54] <th34lch3m1st> hi all
[14:57] <th34lch3m1st> Is there a list where I can check when a certain software was updated in ubuntu? (I mean, 6 months ago for example...)
[14:59] <CrazyH> It looks like the answer to the question that I asked like 12 hours ago is to use xrandr in a start up script to configure the screen and output displays
[14:59] <CrazyH> here is my original question:
[15:00] <CrazyH> Ubuntu 16.04> When I log in using my laptop ( connected to an external monitor ), I'm able to select Applications:> SystemTools:> System Settings:> Displays:> Mirror Displays ( check box ):> Apply ( button ).  It works fine no problem. The monitor shows exactly what my laptop screen shows. The problem is that every time I reboot, I have to go through the same procedure over and over again. How can I perminantly set it to just ALWAYS m
[15:00] <CrazyH> irror the display when an external monitor is present?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> th34lch3m1st, your package manager/application/changes list maybe
[15:11] <th34lch3m1st> BluesKaj thanks for info
[15:26] <prof2004> hi, I am back again, ioria
[15:27] <ioria> prof2004, hey
[15:27] <prof2004> can we resume our problem resolution activities
[15:27] <prof2004> ?
[15:27] <ioria> prof2004, sure
[15:27] <prof2004> I will provide an upgrade
[15:28] <ioria> ok
[15:29] <prof2004> system is running with one asus prime 370 board, 1 intel i7 8700 proc, m2 samsung ssd, and von rx graphics card
[15:30] <prof2004> one
[15:30] <ioria> prof2004, but iirc, you are on intelright now
[15:30] <prof2004> yes
[15:30] <prof2004> I am using a laptop to communicate
[15:31] <prof2004> the problem is, that the system stalls during boot process
[15:31] <prof2004> we have had intensively searched for graphics problems 2 days ago
[15:32] <prof2004> with no result
[15:32] <ioria> prof2004, yes, and you cannot have a regular boot with the  intel integrated
[15:32] <prof2004> to come the problem nearer, I have taken the rx graphics out of the system now
[15:33] <ioria> prof2004, yes i remember that, still you cannot boot if not in recovery ?
[15:33] <prof2004> I have prepared a live cd for ubuntu 18.04.1, with a fresh download from ubuntu
[15:33] <prof2004> yes, you are right
[15:34] <prof2004> I have tested the usb stick with ubuntu at my laptop, it is working fine, no disk errors
[15:34] <prof2004> I am able to startup the system with this live system
[15:34] <prof2004> but
[15:35] <prof2004> I get for short time error messages
[15:35] <prof2004> I have made a picture, is it possible to poste a picture here?
[15:35] <mirazi_heket> hey, can you help me please change default java version? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/99ycd2q6JP/
[15:36] <ioria> prof2004, https://imgur.com/
[15:38] <prof2004> moment pls
[15:42] <Richard_Cavell> I have Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit MATE.  Do I have bgfx installed by default?
[15:43] <prof2004> do I have to create a signin to poste?
[15:43] <compdoc> with imgur? no
[15:44] <prof2004> what to do to upload a pic?
[15:44] <ioria> prof2004, try this . http://tinypic.com/
[15:44] <lordcirth> Richard_Cavell, I don't think so.  I don't think it's in repos. 'apt-file search bgfx' here on bionic finds nothing.
[15:44] <compdoc> click 'new post'
[15:46] <prof2004> done, I have named it pro2004 errors
[15:47] <compdoc> you paste the url here
[15:47] <prof2004> http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e0ie4j&s=9#.XAqHtNtKjIU
[15:48] <prof2004> there are all acpi errors
[15:49] <lordcirth> I don't think any of those are actually problems
[15:50] <prof2004> so, it seams start with this live usb is working, even if the resolution of the biggest monitor is not the best
[15:53] <prof2004> for me it looks like the setup of the system is damaged
[15:53] <prof2004> 2 questions
[15:54] <prof2004> 1) is there any way to "reinstall" ubuntu keeping the current setup working?
[15:55] <prof2004> 2) what can i do to get the max resulution on the biggest monitor, driving the system with 3 monitors based on the intel build in graphics?
[15:56] <prof2004> the monitor in question is  big LG Monitor, connected with displayport 1.2
[15:57] <Some_Person> I really do not like how newer versions of Nautilus don't allow dragging the breadcrumbs to other windows. Is there any way to restore this behavior?
[15:57] <ioria> prof2004, the point is that you cannot boot (without nomodeset)
[15:58] <ioria> prof2004, using a supported intel chipset (core 8th is supported in 4.15 kernel)
[15:58] <prof2004> Do I use an older kernel?
[15:59] <prof2004> It is the latest upgrade level
[15:59] <ioria> prof2004, you shoulduse the latest 4.15.0-42-generic
[15:59] <prof2004> And it has been working until now with the rx card
[15:59] <ioria> prof2004, please lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga
[16:00] <prof2004> Im using <IP_ADDRESS>.44
[16:01] <ioria> prof2004, ok
[16:01] <airking> Hello!  I need help installing the xmlrpc-c package
[16:01] <airking> I can't seem to get it to work
[16:01] <airking> I need it to implement xmlrpc-c in some c++ code
[16:02] <airking> I found this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmlrpc-c  But "apt-get install xmlrpc-c" doesn't find the package
[16:03] <ioria> prof2004, if you have problems using that pc, install ssh server and connect from your laptop
[16:03] <prof2004> I have the live system up and running, but need to modify the language to german, to find the pipe symbol :(
[16:04] <ioria> prof2004, pastebinit <(lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga )
[16:04] <ioria> no pipe
[16:05] <prof2004> the letter after nnk, I mean
[16:05] <ioria> sy
[16:05] <ioria> prof2004, xsetkbmap de
[16:06] <ioria> prof2004, setxkbmap de
[16:06] <prof2004> Only a minute, have it installed, have to relogin
[16:07] <nacc> airking: that's a source package.
[16:08] <nacc> airking: the package you want is probably libxmlrpc-c++ something
[16:08] <prof2004> here we go: 00:02:0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:3e92] Kernel driver in use: i915
[16:08] <nacc> prof2004: note that intel cards have a kernel limit on maximmum total screen size
[16:09] <prof2004> If I start with only this monitor connected, I get another resolution
[16:12] <prof2004> fyi, just checked the unix version in the live system, it is 4.15.0-29-generic
[16:12] <ioria> prof2004, and is all good with that kernel ?
[16:12] <prof2004> if 0.42 necessary, we should first solve the question 1
[16:13] <prof2004> ioria, how can I check that. For me it looks working, yes
[16:14] <prof2004> I have already copied the old home to another disk
[16:14] <ioria> prof2004, sudo lshw -c Video | pastebinit
[16:15] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v9927xkvsq/
[16:17] <ioria> prof2004, are you on livecd atm ?
[16:17] <ps-ax> hi guys
[16:17] <prof2004> what is atm?
[16:17] <ps-ax> i came here for help...
[16:17] <ioria> at the moment
[16:17] <prof2004> I have started with a live CD, yes
[16:17] <ps-ax> at the moment
[16:18] <prof2004> that was the way to identify, if the problems are hw based
[16:18] <ioria> prof2004, have you tried to reboot the machine with a previous kernel ?
[16:19] <prof2004> yes, I have only one kernel before in access via grub
[16:19] <prof2004> it does not work
[16:19] <ps-ax> i just installed Kubuntu, but when i boot usually it doesnt load graphics... i mean... the screen stay in a black screen and its like the GPU doesnt send any signal to the monitor...
[16:19] <prof2004> If you want, I can restart without live CD
[16:20] <ps-ax> i have an ATI and i said usually because after many "reboots" it shows the system
[16:20] <ioria> prof2004, yes, and try from grub -> advanced option the -39 kernel or what you have
[16:21] <ps-ax> and when it worked i tried to see the logs of the boots.. but everything seeems normal that time.. and dunno how to see the previous logs
[16:21] <ps-ax> and btw.. this happens with Kubuntu/ubuntu and even Elementary
[16:22] <prof2004> I am starten -39 Kernel
[16:22] <ps-ax> its kinda annoying because i have to push power button for 10 sec everytime it doesnt show something on the screen
[16:22] <ps-ax> right now i had to boot windows jujst for ask for help
[16:23] <ioria> ps-ax, try nomodeset
[16:23] <ps-ax> editing the grub line?
[16:23] <pnwise> I am trying to set sleep time on external wd elements, but it needed additional parameters to work and somewhere there was a table what to use for each drive, but I can't seem to find it
[16:23] <ioria> ps-ax, yup
[16:23] <ps-ax> o9k gotta check how to do it...
[16:24] <ioria> ps-ax, https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en
[16:25] <ps-ax> thanks ioria
[16:25] <ioria> np
[16:25] <ps-ax> already foend it :) gotta check it
[16:25] <ps-ax> gimme luck
[16:25] <ioria> l
[16:25] <prof2004> ioria, there have been the blinking red dots during start, freezing, and after a while i got the start messages desplayed. all green ok
[16:26] <ntd> nacc, still no joy re /sys/bus/iio? who are the powers that be?
[16:26] <ioria> prof2004, and ?
[16:26] <prof2004> the last one was Started LSB: Starts or stops the xinetd daemon.. kernel crash signatures .... as shut down ....
[16:26] <ioria> prof2004, not good
[16:26] <prof2004> now it is stalled again, do not know, if it does something in the background
[16:27] <ioria> prof2004, if 29 works and installed 39 not, you might have dome something wrong on your system
[16:27] <ioria> *done
[16:28] <ioria> prof2004, like installing external video drivers packages
[16:29] <prof2004> thats the reason I asked question 1, how to reinstall the system without loosing all setups
[16:30] <prof2004> I am not remembering, to install another graphics driver, after running 18.04 since long time
[16:30] <me-1> hi... I am looking for a video editing software for Ubuntu
[16:30] <ioria> prof2004, you should tell us what you did
[16:31] <prof2004> you know, I was running the rx card, not using the internal graphics
[16:31] <ioria> prof2004, you tried the proprietary amdgpu-pro ?
[16:31] <prof2004> I have removed the rx card, after getting in trouble, to identify the problem, assuming, that the build in graphics is easier to handle
[16:32] <prof2004> I have used the amdgpu-pro under 16.04, but it does not work with 18.04
[16:32] <ioria> prof2004, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu | pastebinit
[16:34] <prof2004> ioria, my current status is a stalled system, what shall I do, to be able to enter this command?
[16:35] <ioria> prof2004, you know, recovery  (or try to open a console)
[16:35] <prof2004> when we talked last time, we have modified the.42 system to start with the intel graphics
[16:35] <ioria> prof2004, or simply add 'nomodeset'
[16:36] <ioria> prof2004, we did what ?
[16:37] <prof2004> we have modified the grub file with the content from the web, based on your analysis. I can look to the history, if you want to now the address
[16:37] <prof2004> but we can go on with nomodeset
[16:37] <prof2004> what is the file to modify? which kernel shall i use?
[16:38] <ioria> prof2004, nope, i remember you changed /e/d/grub, but it has nothing to do with intel
[16:38] <prof2004> ok
[16:38] <prof2004> what revovery version shall i start with resume
[16:39] <ioria> prof2004, recovery -> resume done
[16:39] <ioria> prof2004, no matter the version
[16:39] <prof2004> yes, but what version .42 or .39
[16:39] <ioria> prof2004, 42
[16:46] <prof2004> ioria, I am still starting, pls wait
[16:54] <prof2004> 42 is not starting anymore, screen is flickering
[16:54] <prof2004> i will try .39
[16:57] <cosimone> hi everyone, do you know how i can permanently store changes made to network interfaces made using ip, say, ip addr add...?
[16:58] <cosimone> they are lost after reboot
[16:58] <xamithan> You can't,  put those changes into the config files instead
[16:59] <xamithan> or into networkmanager | netplan
[17:04] <prof2004> ioria, I do not get a recovery system up and running with resume, neiter with starting failsafeX
[17:04] <prof2004> The live system works still
[17:04] <ioria> prof2004, you did the last ime what changed ?
[17:05] <ioria> *time
[17:05] <prof2004> when I just entered the .42 recovery with resume, it works, then I got the update msg from the system and agreed, after reboot, no graphical display anymore
[17:07] <prof2004> the display is flickering a little bit, but all is dark
[17:07] <ioria> prof2004, recovery should work nonetheless
[17:07] <prof2004> I have no idear, what shall I do?
[17:07] <ioria> prof2004, boot in recovery
[17:08] <roracle> hey guys, i'm using lightdm and the option to change desktop session isn't available. how do i enable this?
[17:08] <prof2004> I did, monitor is dark
[17:08] <ioria> prof2004, change monitor
[17:08] <prof2004> I have 3 monitors connected, will remove 2
[17:09] <ioria> prof2004, and no displayport or stuff
[17:09] <HaMsTeRs> te
[17:10] <ioria> roracle, you just installed anothe de and logged out to switch ?
[17:11] <roracle> yeah, no options for changing sessions
[17:11] <ioria> roracle, reboot
[17:11] <roracle> did that, too.  still no options.  is there a setting i should add or edit in the lightdm conf file/files?
[17:12] <ioria> roracle, it works with no changes
[17:12] <prof2004> ioria, sorry it does not work, have now 1 monitor connected via DPMI
[17:12] <roracle> well, i am using ubuntu-mate, and it would seem they've disabled the option
[17:13] <ioria> prof2004, what does not work ?
[17:14] <prof2004> I get no monitor picture, only dark and flicker. made alt+control+F2, have now a stable login picture
[17:14] <tgm4883> roracle: that's unlikely, what desktop session are you trying to switch to?
[17:14] <ioria> prof2004, do you have a shell prompt ?
[17:14] <prof2004> yes
[17:15] <ioria> prof2004, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu | pastebinit
[17:15] <Strykar> on Ubuntu 18.10, how do I check what options/data the PC has received from the DHCP server? short of running a packet trace
[17:16] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y6S8h5HQfJ/
[17:17] <ioria> oibaf
[17:17] <ioria> prof2004, why di dyou install it ?
[17:18] <prof2004> it was stupid, was it?
[17:18] <ioria> prof2004, you need to revert
[17:19] <prof2004> ok, what shall i do?
[17:19] <ioria> prof2004, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge  and sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[17:19] <prof2004> ok
[17:20] <kumul> Is there a program that would install all the required dependencies a program is missing?
[17:21] <teward> kumul: is the program you're referencing from the repositories or something you've compiled or installed separately?
[17:21] <prof2004> done
[17:22] <kumul> teward, installed separately
[17:22] <nacc> kumul: you can use `checkinstall` to wrap installation, which will try and figure out deps
[17:22] <nacc> kumul: if you've already installed something, no, there's no magic program that will fix a manual install
[17:23] <kumul> nacc, `apt checkinstall`?
[17:23] <nacc> kumul: no, checkinstall is a program
[17:23] <nacc> kumul: `sudo apt install checkinstall` and then read the manpage
[17:23] <kumul> alright, thanks
[17:23] <teward> kumul: note you might need to uninstall the application first to use checkinstall, if you've already installed the other program
[17:23] <teward> just a thought :p
[17:23] <ioria> prof2004, dpkg -l | grep intel | pastebinit
[17:24] <kumul> teward, wait why?
[17:24] <teward> checkinstall does the installation steps IIRC as well as tries to find deps
[17:24] <teward> at least, according to the last time I read the manpage
[17:24] <nacc> kumul: that' what i just said "if you've already installed something, no, there's no magic program that will fix a manual install"
[17:24] <teward> ^ this
[17:24] <teward> kumul: so if you've "already installed the program" checkinstall won't help you
[17:25] <nacc> kumul: you use `checkinstall` to wrap `make install` or whatever
[17:25] <teward> kumul: there's nothing that can extrapolate the deps *after* it's installed
[17:25] <roracle> tgm4883: sorry, nature called lol.  i'm trying to switch to Pantheon
[17:25] <nacc> I *guess* you could try and build the deb via `checkinstall` and it might emit the deps
[17:25] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qwjq9WhmGQ/
[17:25] <kumul> but isnt this simple? ldd gives you the dependency names already, i havent looked into dpkg, but i imagine it lists the files its going to install to no?
[17:26] <ntd> nacc, i do not intend to nag: just wondering if you or any of the -kernel devs made any progress
[17:26] <ioria> prof2004, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu | pastebinit
[17:27] <nacc> ntd: well given you didn't put any comments in the bug, it's not likely to be a high priority for anyone. And I've not spent any time on it since yesterday
[17:27] <nacc> kumul: ok, well, it *might* be so simple. Try it and see
[17:27] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rG6pzt7hb6
[17:28] <ntd> nacc, you mean, like some sleep/hibernate and all iio sensors are currently broken on bionic and have been since at least 4.15.0-39?
[17:28] <ioria> prof2004, modinfo i915 | pastebinit
[17:28] <ntd> don't have a launchpad account
[17:28] <nacc> ntd: then you aren't going to magically get a fix :)
[17:29] <nacc> ntd: and it's not clearly all. It might just be some.
[17:29] <kumul> nacc, i guess its not that simple then. well thanks for the help
[17:29] <nacc> kumul: did you try?
[17:29] <ntd> apparentl affects dell, lenovo and this no-name tablet model i've got
[17:30] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pdcs3ft4gR
[17:31] <ioria> prof2004, glxinfo | grep -i opengl | pastebinit
[17:33] <prof2004> i have to install mesa-utils
[17:34] <prof2004> I remember, that after upgrading from 16.04 the system worked fine with mesa driver, or so
[17:34] <prof2004> got Error: unable to open display
[17:34] <ioria> oh, sorry
[17:35] <ioria> prof2004, cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d  | pastebinit
[17:35] <ioria> prof2004, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d  | pastebinit
[17:36] <prof2004> cat or ls?
[17:36] <ioria> ls
[17:37] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RN7RfdTTqm
[17:37] <ioria> prof2004, also amdgpu-pro... did you remove it correctly ?
[17:39] <prof2004> did everything you told me
[17:40] <ioria> prof2004, btw,  you have a lot of unsupported ppa from trusty and xenial
[17:40] <kumul> nacc, i did an ldd and scanned what was required and it was libssl1.0.0:i386, didnt have to use checkinstall but since i will be installing more things i'll try to make a script that will help automate some parts of this
[17:40] <prof2004> apt list amd* gives amd64-microcode/bionic-updates plus 2 other versions not listed
[17:41] <prof2004> I am on ubuntu since 2013, and a user
[17:41] <kumul> I will try later when i'm not busy though
[17:41] <ioria> prof2004, if you ask me , it's a mess
[17:41] <prof2004> If I have a problem, I could solve it with web support, which needs sometimes to add ppa sources
[17:42] <ioria> prof2004, try reboot
[17:42] <prof2004> I am with you, obviosly :(
[17:42] <prof2004> std reboot
[17:45] <prof2004> boot process stalled, then gives the boot messages, last one "Started Hold until boot process finishes up."
[17:45] <prof2004> With a green OK in front :)
[17:46] <ioria> prof2004, ctrl+alt+f2
[17:47] <prof2004> no reaction
[17:47] <prof2004> restart in recovery mode?
[17:47] <Sven_vB> hi! is it safe to reboot with an fstab where some unimportant partitions have invalid uid/git options?
[17:47] <Sven_vB> *uid/gid
[17:48] <ioria> prof2004, did yo uget a gui in recovery -> resume ?
[17:54] <prof2004> ioria
[17:55] <prof2004> back again, have .41 in resume mode started, up and running
[17:55] <ioria> 41 ?
[17:55] <prof2004> with one monitor connected, good resolution
[17:55] <prof2004> sorry, .42? The last one
[17:55] <ioria> prof2004,  cat /proc/cmdline
[17:56] <prof2004> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-42-generic root=UUID=1cc12ebe-9674-46ab-9a0a-cc038fa9a835 ro recovery nomodeset
[17:56] <ash_worksi> is there a way to pipe `!!:p`?
[17:56] <prof2004> now in hexchat on ubuntu, can make cut and paste :)
[17:57] <ash_worksi> maybe using exec
[17:57] <ioria> prof2004,  df -h | pastebinit
[17:57] <ash_worksi> probably not
[17:58] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBkwGrgz6N/
[18:00] <ioria> prof2004,  dpkg -l | grep xinet  | pastebinit
[18:01] <ioria> prof2004,  and can you plea umount tha stuff at bottom
[18:02] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TkW4Z3kwV7/
[18:02] <prof2004> ioria, what do you mean with stuff at bottom?
[18:03] <ioria> prof2004,  //nasdo2/qmultimedia   //nasdo2/public
[18:03] <prof2004> do you have acces to it?
[18:03] <puff> Good afternoon.  My logitech wireless mouse appears to be dying/dead.  It wasn't working last weekend, replaced the batteries and unplugged/replugged the USB dongle and it started working again.  Now it's not working again...  Any suggestions for diagnostics before I conclude that the hardware is just dead?
[18:04] <prof2004> should be unmounted now
[18:05] <JimBuntu> puff, change the batteries
[18:05] <puff> More weirdly... I just unplugged/replugged it and checked dmesg, but dmesg is giving me a timestamp from 3 days ago.
[18:05] <JimBuntu> puff, at least once more.
[18:05] <puff> JimBuntu: I just did.
[18:06] <JimBuntu> sudo dmesg -c && <puff reconnects the mouse dongle> && dmesg
[18:06] <puff> JimBuntu: ?
[18:06] <Finalight> puff; he's trolling you. just ignore
[18:06] <JimBuntu> Finalight, no I am not.
[18:06] <puff> Finalight: aha.
[18:07] <JimBuntu> I said to clear your dmesg, then reconnect the dongle, then check your dmesg
[18:07] <puff> JimBuntu: aha.
[18:07] <puff> So, sudo dmesg -c followed by sudo dmesg -T still shows a timestamp of Dec 4.
[18:08] <nacc> puff: dmesg doesn't generally have dated timestamps
[18:08] <coconut> Finalight: don't expect trolls too soon here.
[18:08] <puff> But it *is* showing new messages... this timestamp thing is weirding me out.
[18:08] <JimBuntu> if you cleared your dmesg,... it shouldn't have old messages ?!
[18:08] <Finalight> coconut; go for it. lol
[18:09] <puff> aha, checked man dmesg, it says -T is unreliable.  Ok...
[18:09] <ZorroT> (hopefully) quick question -- I've got an intel compute stick -- when it comes up, it is immediately in shutdown mode (says "shutdown 1 in one minute") on the graphical login screen, and just hangs there. attempting to ssh in gets the same message and kicks back out...
[18:09] <ZorroT> any suggestions on how to get past this?
[18:10] <nacc> puff: oh yes, i've never used that option, sorry
[18:10] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[18:10] <ZorroT> i can't seem to get to an interactive shell
[18:10] <nacc> puff: dmesg -w is also your friend, and you don't need sudo for dmesg
[18:11] <prof2004> done
[18:11] <crised> can't play a bluray in ubuntu 16.04, have tried with vlc, makemkv, but the pc thinks there is no PC
[18:11] <ioria> prof2004,  paste the outtput maybe
[18:12] <puff> nacc: thanks, forgot about -w
[18:12] <JimBuntu> nacc, can you dmesg -c without sudo?
[18:12] <puff> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PqwCHHJRs8/
[18:12] <nacc> JimBuntu: oh no, you cann't, but they were also passing it to -T
[18:12] <nacc> JimBuntu: clearing the buffer isn't necessary in this case anyways
[18:12] <prof2004> er@udo:~$  sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[18:13] <JimBuntu> nacc, I honestly didn't even look at that part. not necessary, but good to remove old messages, I agree
[18:13] <ioria> prof2004,   locate xorg.conf | pastebinit
[18:13] <JimBuntu> puff, that looks like you have other issues
[18:14] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bsTrsh3GPG/
[18:15] <puff> JimBuntu: Yeah, not sure what's going on there.
[18:16] <ioria> prof2004,   cat fstab  | pastebinit
[18:16] <ioria> prof2004,   cat /etc/fstab  | pastebinit
[18:16] <JimBuntu> puff, it looks like one of your other USB devices is causing some issues. You may want to figure out which, remove it and then try your mouse again
[18:16] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8PqGjkVb6K/
[18:17] <puff> JimBuntu: Thanks, I'll try that.  At the moment it's docked in an IBM minidock that has a wireless micrsoft ergo keyboard plugged into it, and has a thumb drive and wired mouse plugged directly into the laptop.
[18:18] <ioria> prof2004,   comment 14,15 and 24
[18:20] <prof2004> done
[18:23] <Kali_Yuga> Hello, I just installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 manually. It booted straight into windows after installation it did not show the grub menu. I tried to use command prompt as admin in windows and used "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi". Now Grub shows up and I am able to boot into both Operating systems. But now grub looks like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDNzzk7xKj/ . Can I
[18:23] <Kali_Yuga> just use grub-customizer now to remove those entries?
[18:24] <ioria> prof2004,   you know what this is ? /usr/share/xresprobe/xorg.conf
[18:24] <prof2004> no
[18:24] <Kali_Yuga> and why are there so many entries now in grub anyway?
[18:25] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo mv  /usr/share/xresprobe/xorg.conf  /usr/share/xresprobe/xorg.conf.back
[18:25] <prof2004> done
[18:26] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:27] <prof2004> done, but there are errors and nothing happens
[18:28] <prof2004> first one, public key not accessable
[18:28] <prof2004> all packets are actual
[18:28] <ioria> prof2004, paste theerrors
[18:28] <prof2004> signature verification error
[18:29] <prof2004> old index files will be uses
[18:29] <Alb0t> Greetings ! I am trying to find out if this is a bug for Ubuntu or for Centos. My NVMe queue depth is not being rolled up from patition to the device stat line in /proc/diskstats on Ubuntu 1810 or Ubuntu1804. I originally thought this was intentional behavior, but seems like a bug after discussing on https://github.com/prometheus/node_exporter/issues/1190
[18:29] <prof2004> GPG error
[18:29] <ioria> prof2004, paste the errors
[18:29] <prof2004> ubuntu precise release: signatures could not be verified
[18:30] <prof2004> is cut and past for more than one line possible?
[18:30] <prof2004> erros messages are mostly german
[18:31] <ioria> prof2004, export LC_ALL=C    and run again the command
[18:31] <prof2004> I can copy and paste into a file and provide it by pastebinit, shall i?
[18:32] <ioria> prof2004, export LC_ALL=C    ;  sudo apt full-upgrade | pastebinit
[18:33] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fZ6KfvvM88/
[18:34] <ioria> prof2004, export LC_ALL=C    ;  sudo apt update | pastebinit
[18:37] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2rVz2Nv9g6/
[18:37] <prof2004> this is, what comes to my display; no pastebinit result. I have copy and paste to a file made this pastebinit result
[18:39] <ioria> prof2004, cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[18:39] <Majost> I have noticed that `lxc image copy` for zfs images from the ubuntu upstream is very slow,  usually aroun d 300-500kB/s and sometimes just times out. Is there any way to make this faster?
[18:40] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKNPhfHrMM/
[18:41] <Kali_Yuga> Hello, I just installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 manually. It booted straight into windows after installation it did not show the grub menu. I tried to use command prompt as admin in windows and used "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi". Now Grub shows up and I am able to boot into both Operating systems. But now grub looks like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDNzzk7xKj/ . Can I
[18:42] <Kali_Yuga> just use grub-customizer now to remove those entries?
[18:42] <ioria> prof2004, not relevant for your issue,but you can comment  the line 49
[18:44] <ioria> prof2004,   remove xinetd if you don't need it
[18:45] <prof2004> you mean from sources.list
[18:45] <prof2004> ?
[18:46] <ioria> prof2004,   xinetd it's a pkg
[18:47] <fmulti> I have given an Ubuntu 16.04 laptop to users who are complaining that applications/windows/terminal/etc are disappearing within a set amount of time (approx 5-10 mins, they did not time it) of inactivity... I am at a loss and have not witnessed this myself, but what could be causing this? They said it does not KILL an application, but when they try to open a new one, it wont let them as it is already running (verified via ps)
[18:49] <prof2004> line 49 of sources.list is commented. what line do you mean to comment?
[18:49] <prof2004> 51 precise partner?
[18:50] <ioria> prof2004,   comment line 49
[18:51] <prof2004> gedit shows me in line 49 "## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
[18:52] <prof2004> xinetd is removed
[18:52] <ioria> prof2004,   line 49 of this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SDNzzk7xKj/
[18:52] <ioria> prof2004,   line 49 of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sKNPhfHrMM/
[18:52] <ioria> prof2004,   deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[18:54] <prof2004> thats what I mean, it is 51 for me
[18:54] <prof2004> done
[18:55] <ioria> prof2004,   run sudo apt update again
[18:55] <prof2004> done
[18:56] <ioria> prof2004,   still errors ?
[18:56] <prof2004> no error
[18:56] <prof2004> All packages are up to date.
[18:57] <ioria> prof2004,  reboot ,if hangs, you wait a bit and ctrl+alt+f2
[18:57] <prof2004> ok
[19:00] <prof2004> back again, boot in recovery mode was without any problem
[19:01] <ioria> prof2004,  not in recovery
[19:01] <prof2004> ah, ok, then I will boot normal, pls wait
[19:03] <crised> 18.1 or 18.04?
[19:03] <crised> for a new pc?
[19:07] <jvasallo> Hey all, I have a question around some recent changes around unattended-upgrades. Basically when I craft new base images for our infrastructure, I tend to get unlucky with unattended-upgrades running at the same time as my setup scripts. Typically this was checked with a simple: `while pgrep unattended; do sleep 10; done;` and this worked great up until past two days. I've noticed this same behavior as in this post: https://askubuntu
[19:07] <jvasallo> Noticed this same mention in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/1803137
[19:08] <stinkleg> crised: it depends.. if you don't need anything special from 18.04, then I'd go with 18.1
[19:08] <Some_Person> Is there any way to configure the newer Nautilus in 18.04 to type to select an item in the current view instead of search?
[19:08] <Some_Person> This is bugging the heck out of me
[19:08] <crised> thanks
[19:08] <jvasallo> Basically, I am seeing this python3 process running in the background and as a result my "fix" to check for unattended upgrades is no longer valid. I want to know if this process running is expected or something wrong with the way im curating images.
[19:09] <jvasallo> The process is: "/usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown --wait-for-signal"
[19:10] <Some_Person> The problem with type-to-search like they've done now is that it's slow, and unnecessary when I'm already in the right directory
[19:11] <Some_Person> So now, I can't just type "osprey-api-sjt" and hit enter to navigate to that folder... the search mechanism is so slow that doing that dumps me in "osprey-api" instead unless I sit there and wait
[19:12] <TJ-> jvasallo: disable the u-u service whilst your scripts are busy. As in "systemctl mask unattended-upgrades.service; systemctl stop unattended-upgrades.service" then re-enable after "systemctl unmask unattended-upgrades.service; systemctl start unattended-upgrades.service"
[19:12] <prof2004> back again
[19:13] <prof2004> normal reboot failed, control alt F2 did not work
[19:13] <prof2004> I have startet in recovery mode with resume
[19:13] <ioria> prof2004,  we need the specific error you got at boot
[19:13] <prof2004> this was very fast without problems
[19:13] <jvasallo> TJ-: That is a much more elegant solution. So basically disable unattended before I "bootstrap" my images, then at the end enable it back
[19:14] <TJ-> jvasallo: you can also use "while systemctl is-active --quiet unattended-upgrades.service; do sleep 1; done" to wait for the service to be inactive
[19:14] <prof2004> the message was still the same, waiting for the boot process
[19:14] <ioria> prof2004,   'the specific error'
[19:14] <jvasallo> TJ-: the issue is it never it never seems to go inactive :(
[19:15] <stinkleg> Some_Person: I think this change is permanent, reading from this page: https://askubuntu.com/questions/967022/how-do-i-disable-search-as-you-type-text-in-ubuntu-17-10-and-later/982209
[19:15] <TJ-> jvasallo: I'd suggest using the test /after/ stopping the service, to be sure you don't kick off prematurely :)
[19:15] <jvasallo> TJ-: Running with your idea :) Thanks
[19:16] <prof2004> shall I start again and write down the latest line?
[19:16] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target   and reboot
[19:16] <Some_Person> I might need to find a new file manager, and figure out how to get ubuntu to pretend that nautilus doesn't exist
[19:17] <stinkleg> Some_Person: wait a sec, I might have missed something here
[19:17] <jvasallo> TJ-: last question, so it is expected to see: "/usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown --wait-for-signal" basically running all the time right?
[19:17] <stinkleg> Some_Person: you might be able to fix this using this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~lubomir-brindza/+archive/ubuntu/nautilus-typeahead
[19:18] <Some_Person> stinkleg: Yeah, but that's a pretty dumb solution... switch to an unsupported package managed by somebody random just to fix extremely dumb behavior that apparently can't be turned off
[19:19] <prof2004> hi, I am no back from my laptop
[19:19] <prof2004> reboot leads directly into the console
[19:19] <prof2004> I am able to login, but no graphical interface
[19:19] <ioria> prof2004,   and the console works ?
[19:19] <prof2004> yes
[19:20] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo stystemctl restart gdm3
[19:20] <Some_Person> stinkleg: Also doesn't seem very future-proof
[19:21] <prof2004> done, screen is black
[19:22] <ioria> prof2004,   ctrl+alt+f3
[19:22] <arndff> Hi.
[19:22] <arndff> I have a problem with non-latin keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu's login + Google Chrome. Hope someone can help me!
[19:23] <prof2004> no reaction
[19:23] <jjbuggle> I need help editing a pdf.  I am trying to open it with libreoffice, per google-fu'd advice, but, it is giving an error.   Bad version.  Is there another app that can edit pdfs?    (I thought this was something I could do on ubuntu, so I'm not sure why I'm having so much trouble)
[19:23] <ioria> prof2004,   ctrl+alt+f4
[19:23] <ioria> prof2004,   and you need to wait
[19:23] <diverdude> Hi, when i install ubuntu i can create a swap area. Can i always change that later?
[19:23] <arndff> When I'm with English layout, everything's fine. When I switch it to Bulgarian (which is cyryilic -> non-latin), some of the kbd shortcuts don't work.
[19:23] <prof2004> no reaction
[19:23] <Alb0t> diverdude - yes.
[19:24] <ioria> prof2004,   ok, reboot so we have a console working
[19:24] <diverdude> Alb0t: i have 128G memory and i am thinking to just make a 30G swap area for starters....and i can then always change that later
[19:24] <arndff> Anyone?
[19:25] <prof2004> done
[19:25] <Some_Person> My god, reading reports for this on GNOME's bug tracker... it's amazing how much the developers are not listening to the users
[19:26] <ioria> prof2004,   paste lspci -nnk
[19:26] <qwebirc57828> I have a enermax EB311SC hard drive station, plugged on an lenovo X230, but I can't get USB 3 super speed working. Any idea ?
[19:26] <Alb0t> diverdude: does it partition a disk for swap? I'm not sure. If it does, that'll be the most annoying part - you may have to boot into a live image and resize partitions if you want to increase it. Decreasing it should be as simple as swapoff'ing the swap, resizing the partition and growing the fs. 30G is a lot of swap though. If you are using 30G of swap you probably need more RAM.
[19:27] <prof2004> thats a lot of lines, and I am now chatting on a laptop
[19:27] <ioria> prof2004,    lspci -nnk  | pastebinit
[19:27] <ioria> prof2004,    and you can chat from console with weechat
[19:28] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BDTNY3Yq2V/
[19:28] <TJ-> jvasallo: Ahhh, that means that a u-u ran and needs to do some 'stuff' at shutdown time. see "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades" for options you can change to affect that
[19:29] <ioria> prof2004,    ok,  sudo apt install lightdm   and set it as default when it asks for it
[19:29] <Alb0t> diverdude: alternatively, if you want to add more swap, you could use a swapfile which would make things easier. But the short answer to your question is definitely yes.
[19:29] <diverdude> Alb0t: >>Decreasing it should be as simple as swapoff'ing the swap, resizing the partition and growing the fs. <<  What is swapoff'ing ?
[19:30] <TJ-> jvasallo: but as far as I can tell here from /lib/system/system/unattended-upgrades.services, that is the process controlled and so should be stopped if the service is stopped
[19:30] <prof2004> lightdm was already installed in the newest version
[19:30] <Alb0t> diverdude: command: `swapoff -a` will move the swap into memory. Then the swap partition/file should no longer be in use and you can change it.
[19:30] <tgm4883> diverdude: running the 'swapoff' command. Do you really need 30GB of SWAP?
[19:30] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:31] <Alb0t> tgm4883: I eat 5TB of swap for breakfast.
[19:31] <diverdude> tgm4883: i just heard a rule of thumb saying 50% of memory....and i thought 64G was a bit much so i landed on 30G
[19:31] <tgm4883> Alb0t: sounds like you have a misconfiguration then
[19:31] <Alb0t> haha, kidding. i dont swap. swap is bad for my health :)
[19:31] <tgm4883> diverdude: it really depends on your use case
[19:31] <diverdude> tgm4883: but i can always decrease it i guess
[19:32] <prof2004> i am now in a dialog, management system gdm3 or lightdm?
[19:32] <ioria> prof2004,   lightdm
[19:32] <prof2004> done
[19:32] <prof2004> back to prompt
[19:32] <tgm4883> diverdude: for example, I don't think I've ever heard of 50% of memory being the rule of thumb. The rule of thumb for desktops is 1.5X memory (up to a point). But this isn't a desktop
[19:32] <ioria> prof2004,   reboot
[19:32] <Alb0t> diverdude: 50% of memory may be a rule of thumb.. some of these 'rule of thumb' sizing exercises stop making sense at a certain scale...  I'll probably set 10GB because our app doesn't like swap.
[19:33] <tgm4883> diverdude: so it really depends on what you're running here, but 30GB of SWAP would generally be a bad idea IMO
[19:33] <Alb0t> ^^ ditto
[19:33] <diverdude> ok i see
[19:33] <tgm4883> diverdude: so what exactly are you running here
[19:33] <diverdude> yeah, i guess a waste of good HDD space
[19:34] <diverdude> tgm4883: data science
[19:34] <diverdude> tgm4883: machine learning, AI, data analysis etc
[19:34] <tgm4883> diverdude: do you understand what SWAP is used for?
[19:34] <diverdude> tgm4883: yes
[19:34] <prof2004> ioria, the red points are running...
[19:35] <ioria> prof2004,   they should not
[19:35] <prof2004> now I got a black screen and system is rebooting
[19:35] <TRPM8> https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html
[19:36] <prof2004> I am back in the console
[19:36] <ioria> prof2004,   you're booting in text mode, there are not red dots
[19:36] <tgm4883> diverdude: Since you aren't moving swap to a separate drive, a swap file seems to be a better solution here (it's the default now in ubuntu too)
[19:38] <prof2004> I am in a console
[19:39] <ioria> prof2004,   sudo service lightdm restart
[19:39] <tgm4883> TRPM8: IMO that link contridicts itself, but thanks for the info
[19:39] <prof2004> I got a std login, and it works
[19:40] <ioria> prof2004,   login
[19:40] <prof2004> done
[19:40] <ioria> prof2004,   ah, ok  paste  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:40] <prof2004> I am moving the chat back to ubuntu, moment pls
[19:41] <TRPM8> tgm4883: just something to have a look at, not saying it is correct or not.
[19:42] <Alb0t> diverdude: if tgm4883 is correct and you get a swapfile by default then it should be very easy to change as needed. Check out the swapfile section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:43] <tgm4883> TRPM8: it's not wrong, it just sets up "swap is not emergency memory" and then basically explains in other words that it's used in what someone would consider an emergency (high memory contention)
[19:43] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F6K92Qpd82/
[19:45] <tgm4883> Alb0t: diverdude it's been a SWAP file by default for about 18 months  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes#Swap
[19:45] <jvasallo> TJ-: Correct, when I stop the process I noticed it stopped, which is great. Your stop and start of the u-u service is working fantastic...plus I got rid of these dirty sleeps so you also helped cut down some seconds :D
[19:45] <diverdude> tgm4883: ok so i dont even need a swap partition?
[19:46] <jvasallo> TJ-: the other issue is that im using Packer/Ansible to curate base images so the image process never really "shutsdown" so I can imagine something going awry. Regardless thanks for your help. I paid it forward by writing it to another issue on the askubuntu. :)
[19:46] <tgm4883> diverdude: if you are using a swap file, then that is correct
[19:46] <tgm4883> !swap | diverdude
[19:47] <ioria> prof2004,  ok  (much better)  lspci -nnk | pastebinit
[19:47] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z6j645VzD7/
[19:48] <ioria> prof2004,  sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target   and reboot
[19:50] <prof2004> back again, boot was fine and very fast
[19:50] <ioria> prof2004,  ok, so it was at last a gdm3 issue
[19:50] <prof2004> what is gdm3?
[19:51] <ioria> prof2004,  a display manager
[19:51] <prof2004> graphical device manager
[19:51] <prof2004> you have substituted with lightdm?
[19:51] <ioria> prof2004,  yes
[19:51] <prof2004> shall we now try to add the other monitors?
[19:52] <ioria> prof2004,  as you wish , i have no great experience with multi-monitor nsetup
[19:52] <robertparkerx> I guarantee you will tell me this is a Windows topic but here goes.
[19:52] <robertparkerx> I'm trying out WSL and I picked ubuntu. I'm doing this to install a linter. The problem I am having is the repo doesn't have PHP. I'm using the default that were installed with ubuntu by default.
[19:52] <prof2004> ok, then I will shut down the system, adapt the 2 monitors and try a normal boot, okay?
[19:53] <ioria> yep
[19:53] <prof2004> see you
[19:53] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: what php package exactly
[19:53] <relipse> why does ubuntu start with php-fpm does anyone know how to disable it and instead use regular php and apache?
[20:02] <prof2004> hi ioria
[20:02] <ioria> prof2004,  hi
[20:02] <prof2004> system has booted very well
[20:02] <ioria> prof2004,  ok
[20:02] <prof2004> 2 of three monitors working fine, both samsung monitors are identified correct
[20:03] <ioria> prof2004,  very good, good job
[20:03] <prof2004> The lg monitor is identified as Goldstar Company 28" and runs on 1680x1050, which is bad
[20:04] <prof2004> sorry 1024x768
[20:04] <ioria> ah, ok
[20:05] <prof2004> when I was running the monitors wiht the rx graphics card, there was also not the full resolution available, but I have found a solution to add the solution.
[20:05] <ioria> prof2004,  go in system-settings and type 'display'
[20:05] <prof2004> done
[20:06] <prof2004> what do you mean, shall I stay with the build in intel based graphic or shall we move on to reinstall the rx graphics card?
[20:07] <prof2004> give me 15 min, I have find something to eat, cau
[20:07] <prof2004> cu
[20:07] <ioria> prof2004, i'd stay with intel, and i'd try to set the right resolution
[20:15] <phox_> hi! My wifi randomly stopped working, i cant see any other networks. What would be a first thing to check?
[20:18] <mutante> if the chipset is Realtek  (maybe kidding, but just kind of)
[20:19] <mutante> phox_: have you tried turning it off and on again? like, the button to click and/or hardware switch on laptop
[20:19] <phox_> mutante, were you replyin to me? :) i think it is a Realtek 8723DE
[20:19] <mutante> or restarting network-manager or all these things
[20:20] <phox_> mutante, i have done sudo reboot but no, now the hardware button. does it make a difference?
[20:20] <mutante> phox_: yea, but that was just semi-serious because the "rtl" modules used to be known as flakier
[20:21] <mutante> phox_: well, just try one by one and see if it comes back at all
[20:21] <phox_> mutante, oh it's flaky alright. ill try the hardware button reset, brb..
[20:21] <mutante> if they all fail, reboot.. i guess
[20:21] <OerHeks> try this github, realtek is an headache https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Wireless-and-Networking/Realtek-8723DE-wifi-module-amp-Bluetooth-Linux-driver/td-p/6477307
[20:21] <OerHeks> or better, buy a good intel wifi card
[20:25] <prof2004> ioria, I am back
[20:25] <prof2004> what shall we trial
[20:26] <ioria> prof2004, have you tried to go in system-settings -> display ?
[20:26] <prof2004> yes
[20:26] <ioria> prof2004, and ?
[20:26] <prof2004> i am there :)
[20:27] <ioria> prof2004, can't you set uparight resolution for your monitor ?
[20:27] <prof2004> that is the place, I can see, that the monitor is identified as Goldstar Company Ltd 28"
[20:27] <prof2004> I can, but only to entries in the list, 800x600 and 1024x768
[20:28] <ioria> prof2004, can you paste  'xrandr' output ?
[20:30] <prof2004> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/67pPdyPgKY/
[20:30] <robertparkerx> it was kaspersky that was blocking my issue
[20:33] <ioria> prof2004, DP-1 is the worng one ?
[20:33] <Mesp> Hello!
[20:33] <prof2004> no, DP-3
[20:33] <Mesp> I couldn't find anywhere else to ask but suddenly (today) my USB ports stopped working even though it worked for a few months now and it's definitely not hardware failure.
[20:34] <ioria> prof2004, i don't see a DP-3
[20:35] <prof2004> yes, you are right, DP-1, in setup it is monitor 3
[20:35] <ioria> prof2004,  xrandr --output DP-1 --auto
[20:36] <prof2004> done
[20:36] <ioria> prof2004,  nothing changes ?
[20:36] <prof2004> no, no response either
[20:37] <ioria> prof2004,  xrandr -d :0 --output DP-1 --mode 1680x1050
[20:37] <prof2004> xrandr: cannot find mode 1680x1050
[20:38] <TJ-> that mode isn't available on DP-1
[20:38] <ioria> TJ-, didn't know that
[20:39] <prof2004> I have just checked, what I did, to get the solution wanted
[20:40] <ioria> sill on vga :þ
[20:40] <ioria> *still
[20:41] <leftyfb> Mesp: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:41] <prof2004> xrandr --newmode "4096x2160_60"<PHONE_NUMBER> 4104 4136 4176 2160 2208 2216 2222 +hsync +vsyncxrandr --addmode DisplayPort-0 4096x2160_60 xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --mode "4096x2160_60" --primary
[20:41] <ioria> oh, yeah
[20:42] <ioria> newmode
[20:42] <TJ-> ioria: if I recall correctly, you first have to add the modeline to the output, then can select it (if the hardware/display will support it)
[20:42] <ioria> yeah yeah
[20:42] <prof2004> this was written in a file and saved under /etc/x11/Xsession.d
[20:43] <prof2004> file was named 45x11-custom_xrandr-settings
[20:43] <prof2004> I will check, if the file is not there...
[20:45] <prof2004> It is still there
[20:45] <diverdude> Hi, I have added this line to fstab: UUID=b01def9a-11a7-466b-8732-2d305b34a49c /mnt/hotstorage ext4 defaults 0 2       <--- it mounts the drive as expected, but i get permission denied when i try to create any files there or directories. What am I missing?
[20:45] <prof2004> you can see in the last output provided, that hdmi-3 aht this resolution
[20:45] <Mesp> Yeah i tried a bunch of stuff and no luck
[20:46] <prof2004> but the monitor assigned, is not able to do that, or it is the no 3
[20:46] <prof2004> I think, this entry is wrongly assigned
[20:48] <kumul> is there a ubuntu repository with all packages?
[20:48] <prof2004> or better not assigned, because there is no DisplayPort-0
[20:49] <kumul> debian has a bittorrent that has all of its packages
[20:49] <prof2004> Only DP-1, and HDMI-1 to 3
[20:49] <TJ-> kumul: the Ubuntu archive contains all Ubuntu packages; what are you actually wanting?
[20:51] <kumul> TJ-, I need to run a dpkg -S for all packages
[20:51] <coconut> kumul: for fixing dependencies (your earlier post here), you might want to look at https://www.howtogeek.com/106526/how-to-resolve-dependencies-while-compiling-software-on-ubuntu/
[20:52] <kumul> I'm not compiling anything, though the software has already been compiled
[20:52] <prof2004> ioria, still there?
[20:52] <TJ-> kumul: that only lists the packages known to the local PC, not everything in the archives :)
[20:52] <ioria> prof2004,  i'am leaving, sy,but i cannot help in that
[20:53] <prof2004> is there any problem, if I try to reinstall the rx card?
[20:53] <ioria> prof2004, it's a desktop rigth ?
[20:53] <prof2004> yes
[20:53] <ioria> prof2004, plug the card, reboot , wait,and see
[20:54] <prof2004> ok, I will try and come back to you
[20:54] <ioria> prof2004,  i'am leaving, sy
[20:54] <prof2004> many thanks for your support, you my hero :-)
[20:54] <ioria> prof2004,  no proble,good luck
[20:54] <prof2004> cu
[21:03] <fcastillo> lapion: I'm not sure what you mean, are you talking about the .deb installer it downloads when installing something? If that's the case, then apt does not delete them right after installing
[21:18] <kumul> TJ-, nacc was like "its impossible" well dpkg -S with some server containing all packages installed would work. not even installed, could probably build an index with that
[21:22] <tgm4883> kumul: out of curiosity, what are you going to do once you have run dpkg -S for every package?
[21:24] <kumul> tgm4883, nothing. i just wanted to see if it was possible
[21:24] <TJ-> kumul: I'd prefer 'apt list' over dmesg
[21:25] <hggdh> one can use apt-file to search the repository
[21:25] <hggdh> er, repositories
[21:26] <tgm4883> kumul: sorry it doesn't make much sense to me, are you sure you want -S?
[21:26] <TJ-> apt-file is limited the same as the local tools by the apt sources.list
[21:27] <gst568923> hi guys I should install Legrand UPSMAN for Linux, I have extracted upscomm_1.28.tar.gz but when I run sudo ./install  ,terminal  show me "sudo: unable to execute ./install: No such file or directory"
[21:28] <gst568923> Fileinfo of "./install" is: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, stripped
[21:29] <tgm4883> kumul: if i'm reading this correctly, you just want to search every package (both installed and not installed) in a repository for a file that matches some string?
[21:29] <kumul> tgm4883, yes
[21:29] <kumul> a filepath
[21:30] <tgm4883> kumul: why dpkg? Why not use existing resources to do this?
[21:30] <gst568923> the link of file is : https://ups.legrand.com/media/software/upscomm_linux.zip
[21:30] <kumul> tgm4883, i will use anything, it doesnt really matter
[21:30] <tgm4883> kumul: honestly, this sounds like an xy issue
[21:30] <tgm4883> !xy | kumul
[21:30] <tgm4883> kumul: use https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[21:31] <tgm4883> kumul: there's a handy search on that page that let's you search for packages containing strings
[21:31] <kumul> tgm4883, do you have a CLI interface for it?
[21:33] <tgm4883> kumul: I do not
[21:34] <tgm4883> kumul: this is why you should state what you're trying to do from the start (maybe I didn't read far enough back log)
[21:37] <tgm4883> kumul: so to hopefully answer your question, which I'm assuming is "How can I search for a package that contains a file, from the command line, for packages that aren't installed", you can install the package "apt-file"
[21:37] <kumul> tgm4883, I'm trying to find a dependency for a game i've installed, using ldd i found the lib but now i need to know what actually installs the lib
[21:38] <tgm4883> kumul: so there's really no requirement for it to be from the command line...
[21:39] <coconut> kumul: have you tried reading the url i just gave you?
[21:39] <kumul> there is because i want to automate every missing dependency
[21:39] <kumul> yes, the url work
[21:40] <coconut> try it
[21:40] <kumul> worked*, maybe i can do something with wget and parsing. thanks tgm4883
[21:49] <strixdio> I plug in my iPhone and there are two things that show up in the file explorer: "Documents on iPhone" and "iPhone". The iPhone directory is empty, if I click on the other, it tells me "unable to access documents on iphone" "unhandled lockdown error (-2)" any thoughts?
[21:49] <strixdio> this is in ubuntu 18.10
[22:00] <smellsLikeGoatSp> Hey there, something quick and something silly, I am trying to tweak my laptop fan to come in earlier, but had no luck with fancontrol and pwmconfig doesnt find my fan. althogh sensors gives me information about its rpm when it is spinning. how do I go about this? second question, is it just me or web.whatsapp.com is acting up, it launches fine from chromium in one machine, but will require google chrome 36+ on the other. I run
[22:06] <strangerr> how do i cause a command to run in the background when an xsession begins
[22:06] <strangerr> which file do i place the command into
[22:13] <Mesp> Something is definitely up with my firmware, lsusb doesn't show my ports, mouse not working but the ethernet-to-usb lights are workig but ethernet is not
[22:14] <leftyfb> Mesp: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:14] <ducasse> strangerr: ~/.xsessionrc
[22:14] <Mesp> Ubuntu 18.04
[22:14] <Mesp> I have been using it for a few months and everything was fine then suddenly this happened a few hours ago.\
[22:14] <leftyfb> Mesp: try booting a live cd/usb and see if it works then
[22:14] <SimonNL> strangerr: search for    daemonizing a command    is there any help for you in there
[22:15] <Mesp> It does not, it doesn't recognise USBs
[22:15] <Mesp> Like all ports are not recognising stuff
[22:15] <leftyfb> Mesp: then it's a hardware issue
[22:16] <Mesp> Thing is the ethernet to usb has three lights on it and they are all working meaning the ethernet is working but it actually isn't
[22:16] <Mesp> I will see if I can send itt
[22:16] <TJ-> Mesp: have you done a full, complete, capacitor-draining power off?
[22:16] <Mesp> I have not, only reboots and shutdowns
[22:16] <leftyfb> Mesp: the lights only means you're getting 5V from the port. That doesn't mean it's working
[22:17] <TJ-> Mesp: also, if that doesn't work, try a firmware setup-time factory default settings reload
[22:17] <Mesp> So should I just let it on for the battery to drain for now?
[22:18] <leftyfb> Mesp: if it's a laptop, unplug the power, remove the battery and press the power button for a moment
[22:18] <Mesp> It is an Acer Swift 3 so I don't think the battery can be removed
[22:18] <leftyfb> Mesp: if you cannot remove the battery, there's no easy way that I know of to completely discharge the battery
[22:19] <Mesp> I have to do something in a bit so I will just let it drain I guess
[22:19] <leftyfb> the computer will power down before the battery is completely drained
[22:19] <Mesp> ah alright
[22:20] <Mesp> I think the USB module isn't loading in
[22:20] <Mesp> I had a Failed to connect to lvmetad followed by volume group ubuntu-vg not found
[22:21] <leftyfb> Mesp: if it worked on a fresh install of 18.04 and you booted a live usb/cd, then more likely it's loading everything it needs and it's a hardware issue
[22:21] <Mesp> No I had the 18.04 for a few months now, no fresh installs or live usbs.
[22:21] <leftyfb> lvme/volume groups are related to storage, not usb
[22:21] <leftyfb> Mesp: you installed 18.04 fresh at one point right?
[22:22] <Mesp> Also dmesg --level=err gives me this:
[22:22] <Mesp> [   20.562695] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: can't setup: -110 [   20.562974] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: init 0000:00:14.0 fail, -110 [   20.630217] Couldn't get size: 0x800000000000000e [   33.071378] dell_smbios: Unable to run on non-Dell system
[22:22] <Mesp> Yes, when I first got it.
[22:22] <leftyfb> Mesp: and usb's worked then?
[22:22] <Mesp> Yes.
[22:22] <Mesp> They stopped working a few hours ago
[22:22] <leftyfb> Mesp: ok, booting a live usb/cd is basically the same thing as when you installed it fresh
[22:23] <Mesp> Like last night everything was fine and I didn't even move it or anything and next day it just didn't work
[22:23] <ntd> TJ-, just booted bionic with debian kernel 4.18.20 and /sys/bus/iio is there and sensors are working
[22:24] <ntd> so def kernel, not userspace. mind telling nacc?
[22:25] <leftyfb> leave it running till the batter dies. Power it back on and go into the BIOS. Leave it in the BIOS till it dies again. Then try powering it back on. Keep repeating till you can't turn it back on anymore. Then plug it in and try booting and check your usb ports. Start with something simple like a keyboard
[22:25] <Mesp> Alright
[22:25] <Mesp> I will try to do that I guess, thankfully it's at the end of the semester
[22:26] <TJ-> Mesp: spilled liquids? someone stuck something into the vents or ports as a 'joke' maybe?
[22:26] <Mesp> Nope, no liquids near my laptop and it's in my locked room all the time so nobody can get in.
[22:26] <ntd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1807250
[22:27] <leftyfb> ntd: not sure that would be the case if he booted a live usb
[22:27] <ntd> so this goes back to friggin 4.15.0-20? that has been a while. how on earth am I (yet again) the first to notice stuff like this? support for an entire bus class just *poof*?
[22:27] <leftyfb> since it's still the same kernel
[22:27] <leftyfb> ntd: oh, sorry, wrong problem
[22:28] <Mesp> lsusb is empty also so I have no idea what's going on
[22:29] <Mesp> I had one time an error screen saying PCIe Bus Error severity=Corrected and it was spammed
[22:29] <Mesp> But it never reappeared
[22:30] <ntd> this and the amdgpu-pro situation have me worried about just how few people actually use linux and ubuntu for other than blogging
[22:35] <Mesp> I don't know what to say, I will let it drain and I might contact Acer or something
[22:39] <ps-ax> hi guys...
[22:39] <ps-ax> i came early this day asking for some help about the boot and my AMD GPU
[22:40] <ps-ax> it didnt "showed" nothing once it starts ubuntu.. i mean it was just a black screen and the monitor light flashed like if it didnt was turned on the pc, but it is...
[22:41] <ps-ax> ioria helped me to edit the grub line and put nomodeset on it
[22:41] <ps-ax> now runs most likely a real startup, but when i put the
[22:42] <ps-ax> the password to login
[22:42] <ps-ax> it stays on a black screen with the mouse icon on it only... nothing else
[22:42] <ps-ax> i can move the mouse but there arnt desktop
[22:42] <ps-ax> does someone have any idea what can i do?
[22:42] <ps-ax> maybe its the driver... gotta check it
[22:50] <TJ-> Here's a message you don't see every day: "W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (3 vs 7)."
[22:51] <ntd> unsigned kernel?
[22:51] <ntd> ... present in /boot?
[22:52] <genii> TJ-: I got that before when I had already run apt-get dist-upgrade earler but not rebooted before running it again
[22:52] <genii> ( like a day or two later )
[22:57] <TJ-> genii: this came from one of my custom scripts
[23:00] <TJ-> I just thought it sounds so polite, it made me laugh
[23:14] <cloudy_nz> there must be one of those revolving doors in here...
[23:33] <ntd> was plicykit updated?
[23:42] <puff`> Good evening.
[23:43] <hggdh> ntd: a policykit-1 update was being set, IDK if it is already released
[23:44] <puff> JimBuntu: So I spent the afternoon dealing with other stuff, I've unplugged everything else, undocked the laptop and plugged in the mouse USB dongle. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/b7ksVPzGSk/
[23:54] <mattfly> how do i use a ps3 joubuntu 18.04 trhu bluetooth
[23:54] <mattfly> because with sixad running if i press the ps button nothing happnes


[02:54] <NARKOZ> %b hi
[09:37] <DNAngel> hi
[09:37] <[NikO]> hi
[09:39] <DNAngel> I wanna ask something
[09:40] <DNAngel> will next ubuntu supporting new hardware?
[09:40] <Myrtti> depends on kernel
[09:40] <DNAngel> coz original ubuntu can't installed on acerv 4530
[09:41] <DNAngel> but ubuntu ultimate does
[09:41] <DNAngel> why can be like tht?
[10:12] <jussi01> DNAngel: this isnt a support channel - please use #ubuntu
[10:13] <DNAngel> oh, sorry... :P
[10:13] <DNAngel> kk,
[10:15] <DNAngel> I not read the topic. but, this a honnor to meet u guys. I love ubuntu ;)
[11:24] <elkbuntu> jussi01, ping?
[11:25] <jussi01> elkbuntu: pong
[11:25] <elkbuntu> can -sg have some bot love please?
[11:26]  * Myrtti suggests prodding nali
[11:26] <elkbuntu> if ubottu is getting full, either of the others will do
[11:26] <jussi01> jpds: nalioth ping
[11:26] <elkbuntu> or jpds :)
[11:26] <jussi01> ^^
[11:26]  * elkbuntu goes to hunt for icecream
[11:26] <Myrtti> ICECREAM?!
[11:27] <elkbuntu> yah.
[11:27] <elkbuntu> rocky road cones
[11:27] <jussi01> shush you
[11:28] <e-jat> :)
[11:28] <e-jat> one for me ..
[12:51] <[NikO]> -sg == ?
[12:51] <Myrtti> singapore
[13:00] <adityaduggal> hi every one
[13:00] <Myrtti> hello
[13:00] <adityaduggal> is there any one who can help me with finalising my UBUNTU installation
[13:00] <Myrtti> please use #ubuntu for support
[13:01] <adityaduggal> I m having trouble installing the drivers of my notebook on UBUNTU
[13:01] <adityaduggal> ok thanks Myrtti
[13:01] <adityaduggal> just out of curiosity what is this room for?
[13:01] <Myrtti> see /topic
[13:28] <jpds> elkbuntu, jussi01: Hmm, ubot3 is already in -ke.
[13:29] <elkbuntu> jpds, -sg dear
[13:30] <jpds> I scrolled too far up.
[13:30] <elkbuntu> hehe
[18:10] <techno_freak> just to clear this doubt, is there any different between ubottu and ubot5?
[18:10] <Pici> techno_freak: Ones just a working backup of the other
[18:11] <techno_freak> Pici, ah, thanks :)
[19:33] <jpds> pressenter: Good evening, which user are you having problems with?
[19:33] <pressenter> jpds: Good evening jpds .
[19:33] <pressenter> User goes by the nickname of DaZ`
[19:33] <pressenter> His nick is already on the banlist.
[19:34] <pressenter> Unfortunately his dynamic ip overrides that.
[19:34] <Pici> Is his name always DaZ`  ?
[19:35] <pressenter> No, sometimes its DaZ, but he keeps changing his hostname so that won't work.
[19:35] <Pici> You could do +b daz?!*@*
[19:36] <pressenter> Exactly as you spelled it?
[19:36] <Pici> pressenter: yes.  That will match all users whose nicks start with daz and have at most 1 other character afterwards.
[19:37] <pressenter> Ok, will try.
[19:37] <jpds> That could do it, unfortunatly he has no real name set, so one cannot +d him.
[19:38] <[NikO]> jpds, hello
[19:38] <pressenter> Yea, i tried that already, but i did not know about "?".
[19:38] <jpds> 'soir [NikO]
[19:38] <jpds> pressenter: It matches a single character.
[19:39] <pressenter> Great, thank you for your help.
[19:39] <[NikO]> jpds, i ask some questions on ircbots-team channel
[19:40] <pressenter> Have a good evenig y'all. :)
[19:40] <pressenter> *evening
[19:41] <jpds> [NikO]: Apologies, having 70+ channels makes one miss certain things.
[19:42] <[NikO]> ^^
[21:59]  * [NikO] adding @ and > pipe support on supybot
[22:16] <Slart> who runs ubottu?
[22:18] <Slart> nevermind