 welkam back bot
 https://twitter.com/tsimonquigley2/status/1036075329754984448?s=19
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 So now the person directly responsible of hijacking the qt packaging and maintaining it in repositories where other kubuntu developers don't have access is now part of the council. Very wise vote. Things get better and better here :)
 @Santa, Can you elaborate? I dont Know that story
 @tomaz ububtu Qt branches are maintained in the debian git repositories (where nobody but Simon has access) he is perfectly aware of that and our work in the last few months have been blocked because we didn't have a newer Qt and we don't have access to the git repositories either
 s/ububtu/ubuntu/
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 So...
 Let's see if I get removed from kubuntu.org as I requested
 The fact that I'm listed there with a KDE logo might trick someone into thinking that I or KDE approves a distribution with packages older than debian's
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[16:54] <BluesKaj> is there a ppa for the new vlc 3.0.4 version ?
 @BluesKaj, not in an offical sense IIR. the 'stable' ppa doesn't seem to update now
 A couple of your statements are just factually incorrect, Santa.
 First off, Mirv had maintained Qt in Alioth/Salsa a while before I came along. This isn't anything new.
 Secondly, the reason why Qt was blocked was because of Proposed Migration taking a while, not because of me.
 @tsimonq2, This doesn't make incorrect what I say
 Also, if you wanted to contribute, there is a big green Fork button on Salsa where you can send changes, and then submit an MP.
 Neon frequently submits changes and they don't have commit access.
 But as a rule, we only give commit access to people who contribute.
 Qt is special because it's shared by many projects.
 KDE is one umbrella. One team.
 @Santa, How?
 @tsimonq2, You got like 3 weeks uploading packages to debian, then  syncing them manually. No automation and no teamwork.
 @Santa, I did work with the people who actually contribute on the Debian Qt Team
 I became a Debian Maintainer and I intend on working with people who are Debian Developers...
 And that's why it's taking so long
 Not really.
 We sync packages from Debian because long term that's easier to maintain.
 Because that people you are working with aren't automating Qt are they?
 We don't need automation. If we did, it should have unit tests...
 @tsimonq2, No, it's not, you just have to see what we are doing with frameworks, plasma and applications and it doesn't take so long
 Precisely because we don't get trough all debian's hindering
 @Santa, So why don't you have this discussion with the Debian Qt Team so we can adopt some automation?
 I would be happy if you did.
 You probably remember the channel and the mailing list.
 because I already did Simon
 I want to collaborate; you want proprietary automation.
 I'm starting to think the only reason you dislike Debian is because you were kicked out.
 Like the debian kde automation whose source code is not completely available
 @tsimonq2, And you are wrong
 @Santa, It's probably just maxy's shell history. :P
 @Santa, So you like Debian?
 no
 Where's your mailing list thread about automation?
 Can I see it?
 I'd like to contribute to the discussion.
 I have an IRC log
 How old is this IRC log?
 old
 So it's not recent... Was this before or after you were kicked out?
 and anyway, LOL at "propietary automation" non-sense
 Proprietary in the sense of, only Kubuntu's automation.
 @tsimonq2, yes, and it's also much before you appeared here
 The code is open, but only we know how to use it.
 @Santa, Probably.
 @tsimonq2, it's documented and you can adapt it to debian, too bad you don't have the knowledge or experience to do it
 Children please stop.
 I'm still waiting for the unit tests which were going to save everybodies lives
 I like Debian, I do most of the Qt work in Ubuntu (Dmitry also helps out, and I'm grateful for that) and some of it in Debian, and as long as that stands how it is, we're maintaining our packaging in Salsa and we're taking a Debian-first approach with Qt. Do what you wish with the KDE stack, consulting the uploading Kubuntu Developer of course.
 allright, from now on the Kubuntu Council have five members for me
 The Kubuntu Council is one body.
 No, I don't recognize someone who hijacked the Qt packaging and is now actively harming kubuntu
 So far you are the only person who has objected to keeping Qt in Salsa. I can understand keeping KDE in Ubuntu packaging, but not Qt.
 "Qt is mine"
 If anything, you're the one actively harming Kubuntu.  I intend on continuing to collaborate with these bright individuals and not maintain a sense of superiority here.
 @Santa, Qt is ours, Debian's and Ubuntu's.
 The way it should be.
 You're welcome to contribute.
 Why ubuntu's members don't have access then?
 Stop!
 @Santa, Debian's don't either. It's all about who has the technical merit.
 And you don't
 Who has commit access?
 I do.
 Both @tsimonq2 and Santa
 Do you honestly think you are the only one who is able to package Qt here Simon?
 If you're going to continue to make a deal out of this Santa, please leave. You know where Salsa is to submit fixes.
 Really? Just resign for a year and let's see if we handle Qt better than you or not
 The only way I will resign is if it is forced. I care too much about Ubuntu to do that.
 So much that you block other people way more experienced than you. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to brag about your "technical merits".
 One thing is having the permissions and another one the technical skills, and clearly you don't, you just have to see the mess you made with Qt which we are still fixing btw
 I'm done with this argument.
 same here
 I can see some merit in both positions. Projects with a stake in Qt need more involvement and rights. Just have to figure out how to do this.
 One possible way is applying for MOTU and start to upload Qt ourselves given the current maintainer doesn't want to cooperate, as we can see.
 We could start with a Qt backport to bionic to test the waters.
 @Santa, Are you aware that I'm on the DMB?
 Lets see how we can do that backport. Personal feelings and opinions are one thing, but the test of principal is how things goes in practice.
 Ah, so you ar saying that you are going to cotinue to abuse your position, fantastic, nothing like 16 year old kid without experience bossing you areound
 * around
 @acheronuk, To be honest I think you will have to get ready to work only with Simon. Because at this rate, I think you are going to run out of developers.
 Because Clive didn't complain at all about Qt right? It's just "my problemç"
 * problem
 He complained because he was running KCI Unstable before it was rebuilt for the Qt transition which had just landed.
 Since then we have moved to a dedicated channel.
 Because it shouldn't be a hostile takeover by a single Kubuntu Ninja, it should be done neutrally as an Ubuntu group.
 But if you're going to leave, I'm not stopping you, Santa.
 You have yet to tell me about the "mess" in our dedicated group.
 Which further proves you just want the control.
 Allright, just get ready to work only with him @acheronuk because I honestly don't know for how long I'm going to tolerate this. He will be, of course, MOTU, core dev he will be in a zillion of councils at the same time, but I'm afaraid soon enough he will be the only person you are going to work with.
 @tsimonq2, No Simon, the one who wants the control is the person who hijacked the Qt packaging, and that's you.
 @Santa, ...with the full support of Timo? I don't call that a hijack, I call it a graceful handover.
 You quickly filled a gap and then you locked the Qt packaging down so you are the only one who has access
 Do you have access to the kubuntu git repositories? yes
 Dude, it's had the same ACLs from before and after I took over.
 Ask Timo, the Ubuntu packaging has always been in Salsa.
 do other kubuntu developers have that same access to Qt? NO
 You just have a bone to pick with me.
 It's the same as it's always been.
 why don't you change then?
 Because there is no good reason to.
 hahaha
 oh god
 Qt isn't Kubuntu's anymore, since Lubuntu switched to LXQt. It's Ubuntu's.
 great, why ubuntu's members don't have access?
 mitya57 has access.
 and kubuntu developers doesn't
 Our policy is: work well with us, contribute your patches upstream, and eventually you get your commit access.
 It shouldn't be an automatic right of being a Kubuntu Developer.
 and qt affects us and very much
 It affects Lubuntu too.
 @tsimonq2, which is an outright hostile action against kubuntu
 and people voted you for the *kubuntu* council. LOL
 I have better things to do than sit here and bicker with you Santa.
 Great, goodbye Simon, and keep up that good "work" and blocking of everyone else ❤
 Hah.
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[15:35] <ub_ubuntu> @MonkeyDust Not in the launcher. I meant in the status bar in the top.
[15:35] <minasota> greenbug: I looked. I see where gnupg2 stores the key pair and enigmail in thunderbird looks in usr/bin/gpg2
[15:37] <minasota> greenbug: but placing the imported key in the dirs that the documentation says it looks, doesn't work (fails to find the key or outright doesn't sign or encrypt)
[15:37] <binary01> greenbug: thanks for the suggestion. when i try booting i see the ubuntu bootscreen for a second and goes to a black screen. i cant get to terminal. i cant only boot from a usb now
[15:38] <greenbug> minasota: what gpg software did you use on osx? perhaps you need to give the keys a certain name, or convert them to another format
[15:41] <greenbug> binary01: sorry I can't be of more help, maybe try reading documentation for lightdm?
[15:42] <atralheaven> what is the command to put laptop in sleep? like poweroff for shutting dwon or reboot for rebooting.
[15:42] <minasota> greenbug: I used -> https://gpgtools.org and renamed the imported keys with an *.asc extension for enigmail to read
[15:42] <binary01> thanks
[15:43] <greenbug> atralheaven: I think the shutdown command might have a suspend option? try reading the manual for shutdown.
[15:44] <atralheaven> greenbug: I will check it out
[15:44] <minasota> atralheaven: -r maybe...
[15:46] <minasota> greenbug: I've got get to going, busy day ahead. I'll tackle this some other time. Thanks for your help
[15:46] <greenbug> minasota: I would read the documentation for gnupg2 and GPG tools and look for info about what key format they use
[15:47] <greenbug> minasota: Alright, good luck
[15:47] <minasota> greenbug: thanks... I might need it. Later
[15:48] <sda13> Hi people. I was just wondering. Why does the mini.iso image install bloatware like plymouth?
[15:49] <treeline> Hello everyone. New-ish linux user here. I just installed ubuntu on a usb 3.0 drive and sometimes experience hangs. The system shouldn't be the issue because if I boot either of the OSes on the hd everything runs fine.. Can anybody point me to some possibly helpful resources?
[15:50] <greenbug> sda13: I wonder a lot about the packages included in the isos....
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> treeline: usb will be a bottleneck
[15:51] <greenbug> treeline: I've never has good luck with running stuff from usb drives
[15:52] <greenbug> like lotuspsychje said, usb drives are slow. they're designed to store files, not support an OS (which is too bad imo)
[15:52] <treeline> yeah, I'm aware.. I just wanted to explore the possibility of having a system on a stick I can carry around with me or use inside a vm
[15:53] <EOBeav> treeline: USB 3.0? I don't know if that would be fast enough for you or not
[15:54] <treeline> I just thought the boot process would be slower, not the overall system performance when most of it should reside in ram?
[15:57] <treeline> EOBeav, I don't actually know if it is fast enough, I just thought with the (theoretical) much higher data rates it should work
[15:57] <treeline> (higher transfer rates than 2.0*)
[16:01] <EOBeav> Yeah, I don't know. It would probably depend on how big your RAM is, but I haven't tested that out very much.
[16:01] <EOBeav> At the end of the day it's still needing to get items from the USB drive
[16:01] <treeline> right..
[16:01] <greenbug> it still has to pull files off the usb, like config files and programs.
[16:02] <greenbug> and often usb drives are cheap, with much lower transfer speeds than hdd or ssd
[16:02] <treeline> I mostly notice short hangs during listening to music
[16:05] <treeline> would a ram drive or partition in ram work, if I settled for a more minimalistic system that would fit into it?
[16:06] <treeline> nevermind, persistence would probably be an issue then
[16:06] <greenbug> treeline: the only issue would be losing stuff if you didn't shut down correctly
[16:07] <treeline> how would I go about setting up something like that? Are there distros that work like that?
[16:12] <mrrobotxx> Steam isn't being installed on my system. What should I do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15510309/
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> treeline: best scenario is dualboot/triple or vm your wanted Os
[16:13] <treeline> so, I guess I'm looking for a way to do this: minimalistic desktop distro, boot from usb drive, copy system partition into RAM, be happy?
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> treeline: even then you will get usb bottlenecks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> treeline: liveusb can do some work allright, but once you get heavy works it will freeze
[16:14] <treeline> hm..
[16:15] <greenbug> treeline: see also, puppy linux
[16:16] <treeline> thanks, will do!
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !steam | mrrobotxx
[16:16] <treeline> so, what other options would be there regarding portability?
[16:17] <EOBeav> I dunno...not sure it's meant to be used portably. Another option would be a really light install, something like lubuntu.
[16:17] <treeline> is ubuntu phone (don't remember the exact name of that project) still being worked on?
[16:17] <greenbug> treeline: I've heard that installing an OS on an external hdd or ssd is good
[16:17] <ub_ubuntu> Sometimes ubuntu 15.10 doesnt shutdown properly
[16:17] <EOBeav> I think there's a working model primarly in europe/asia
[16:18] <treeline> wouldn't even an external ssd have said USB bottleneck?
[16:18] <Marezz> How can I automount a partition?
[16:18] <greenbug> treeline: the bottleneck is really in the flash drive hard ware, not usb tech, I think.
[16:18] <ub_ubuntu> How to include scripts to run at boot time
[16:19] <greenbug> like I said, flash drives arent designed to sustain the high read and write rates an OS requires, just copying files periodically
[16:19] <treeline> right, so the transfer rates aren't the problem but the way flash drives are designed. gotcha
[16:19] <greenbug> marezz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> !cron | ub_ubuntu
[16:21] <greenbug> I've run a virtualbox machine where the vm's drive was on my usb hdd, and I had no issues with that.
[16:22] <AlexPortable> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/eglibc/libc6_2.19-0ubuntu6.6_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[16:22] <treeline> I see
[16:23] <EOBeav> There's certainly something to be said about packing up your OS and taking it with you in your pocket, though.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu phone
[16:23] <treeline> yes, the pocket OS seems really neat, that is why I wanted to try it
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> !touch | treeline already possible
[16:25] <treeline> thanks, I'll check that out too
[16:27] <Marezz> greenbug, i dont understand that
[16:27] <kevin__> hello
[16:28] <kevin__> who is using a raspberry pi right now?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> !arm | kevin__
[16:29] <compdoc> I have a few
[16:30] <fhjdsxghjjfss> Ikonya you are a fycking frustrating bitch. Fuck you
[16:30] <en1gma> i have windows 10 installed on a newer motherboard that does have uefi bios. what is best way to get the ubuntu 15.10 desktop iso onto my usb stick so it will recognize it and boot
[16:32] <kevin-5> hello?
[16:32] <ghostmag> hello
[16:32] <treeline> hi
[16:32] <kevin-5> any of you guys on a raspberry pi?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | fhjdsxghjjfss known spammer
[16:32] <rasterman> Does anyone know a power management program that allows customised schemes?
[16:33] <kevin-5> what do you mean?
[16:33] <kevin-5> as in a system monitor?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> rasterman  yes, rtcwake
[16:33] <fatpelt> hey all.  i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'm working on a new .deb package and there are some files that aren't installed by the source make install.  docs indicate that i can put them in debian/tmp, however it seems that debuild removes the directory so a build fails.  i'm not seeing information on how to specify a directory that isn't removed, but isn't part of the source tree?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> rasterman  rtc means real time clock
[16:34] <kevin-5> rpi does not have a rtc
[16:34] <kevin-5> monkeydust
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> kevin-5 rasterman #ubuntu-arm for rpi
[16:34] <rasterman> Is there some power management software that lets the used set up different configurations to tell how long it should wait to turn off the screen, depending on whether a laptop is connected or not? Something like that.
[16:35] <kevin-5> just check the config.txt file
[16:36] <kevin-5> or use the  vcgencmd measure_temp
[16:38] <ikonia> kevin-5: any reason your pm'ing me ?
[16:39] <trism> fatpelt: list them in debian/install: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install
[16:39] <AssociateX> Hello. I'm trying to get my mic working. After an hour of googling I'm now here. How can I test my mic?
[16:42] <Mandeep_Singh> AssociateX, In the "Sound" application
[16:42] <Mandeep_Singh> Click on Input tab.
[16:51] <_llt> hello everybody :)
[16:51] <Bromo> Hello guys, I installed LXLE on an old Mac Mini and Im having some problems.
[16:52] <Bromo> I think I messed up something with the bootloader? Basically the system does not book.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> Bromo  i guess lxle is not supported here
[16:52] <Bromo> Well my question was basically, how do I get into the recovery mode?  The screen freezes, audio continues, mouse moves but cant click, keyboard is not working.
[17:00] <gde33> one other clue is that my clock in my toolbar vanished.
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> gde33: graphics card driver installed properly?
[17:01] <gde33> lotuspsychje: using the default, not sure how to install a better one
[17:01] <gde33> it is an nvidea card
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> gde33: can you check your additional drivers section, wich one?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> gde33: ubuntu version and card chipset could be handy also
[17:02] <gde33> oh it got more intersting now, windows wont play videos in vlc either (not anymore)
[17:02] <gde33> everything else seems to work fine
[17:03] <gde33> flash/html5 video
[17:03] <gde33> should I run some video test utility?
[17:03] <AssociateX> Mandeep_Singh, "multimedia"?
[17:03] <binary01> does anyone know how to reinstall lightdm using a livecd?
[17:03] <ikonia> why do you want to re-install ?
[17:04] <binary01> because i cant boot into dekstop
[17:04] <gde33> media player classic still works -.-
[17:04] <ikonia> so why do you want to re-install ?
[17:04] <gde33> so does the default ubuntu player btw
[17:04] <Mandeep_Singh> AssociateX, Using Unity Desktop Environment?
[17:05] <binary01> i think something got messed up with the config so i think reinstalling might help
[17:05] <ikonia> why do you think that ?
[17:05] <AssociateX> Mandeep_Singh, KDE
[17:05] <ikonia> what basis do you have that re-installing the binaries will do anything postitive
[17:05] <binary01> because i was stuck in a login screen loop and first
[17:05] <ikonia> again - why do you think re-installing will help ?
[17:06] <binary01> i read that installing gdm might allow me to circumvent this issue
[17:06] <ikonia> what understanding of the problem do you have
[17:06] <gde33> lotuspsychje: gtx 550 ti,  have to boot into unbuntu to check the driver
[17:06] <binary01> obviously not a very good one
[17:06] <ikonia> binary01: ok - so instead of asking how to do something you don't really understand, why don't you explain the problem to the channel and see if they can guide you to something that will actually help
[17:07] <binary01> i have been asking
[17:07] <binary01> scroll up
[17:07] <Mandeep_Singh> AssociateX, type this command in terminal:  arecord -d 10 /tmp/test-mic.wav
[17:07] <ikonia> please state again a summary binary01
[17:07] <binary01>  hi all, i am having trouble booting into my desktop. At first after i try to login it would just return to login screen. i read that i may be a problem with lightdm and to try gdm instead. i installed gdm and now i get a black screen on boot. does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:07] <Mandeep_Singh> and After 10 seconds, test it using: aplay /tmp/test-mic.wav
[17:08] <ikonia> binary01: so that seems terrible
[17:08] <ikonia> binary01: no idea why you randomly installed gdm
[17:08] <binary01> yea it is
[17:08] <ikonia> binary01: what is the current situation if you boot now ?
[17:08] <binary01> i read that installing gdm would allow to circumvent the issue
[17:08] <binary01> now i boot to black screen
[17:09] <ikonia> binary01: are you able to boot into recover mode ?
[17:09] <binary01> no. i hold shift on boot. nothing happens
[17:09] <stupid_iconia> Fuck you iconia
[17:09] <binary01> is there another way?
[17:09] <ikonia> binary01: if you can't get to the grub menu - you have a more serious problem
[17:09] <ikonia> as it's got a problem before the system has even booted
[17:10] <binary01> i dont remember ever seeing a grub screen while booting even while things were working
[17:10] <ikonia> binary01: you won't see a grub screen if it's a single OS install
[17:10] <ikonia> you have to escape the boot to get it to display grub on a single boot sytem
[17:10] <ikonia> system
[17:11] <binary01> when i boot now i do see the ubuntu logo briefly before it goes to a black screen
[17:11] <ki7rw> has anyone successfully upgraded to gtk+ 3.2 on 14.04? i installed all the dependencies and now i get "running in low graphics mode" after rebooting
[17:11] <ikonia> binary01: I believe the first thing you need to do is focus on getting the grub screen up
[17:11] <ikonia> that will give you more options
[17:11] <Gallomimia> aw now what??? my OTHER monitor won't turn on after a long sleep.
[17:12] <binary01> ikonia: thanks for your help. i was holding the shift key while booting to try to get to grub. is there another way to do that?
[17:12] <ikonia> binary01: depends on your exact ubuntu version, I can't remember all the options, it's in the ubuntu wiki
[17:12] <ikonia> in some versions I think it was escape
[17:13] <Revian1> How do I: I want to have windows placed in the same place they were when I last launched them
[17:14] <Revian1> s/launched/closed/
[17:14] <binary01> im running ubuntu 14.04.4
[17:14] <AssociateX> Mandeep_Singh, did that and played back with aplay. I was not very loud, but it did record me.
[17:15] <Mandeep_Singh> AssociateX, good sign :P. Did you try increasing the volume?
[17:16] <tarwater> i need help creating user accounts in a bash script
[17:16] <AssociateX> Mandeep_Singh, how would I do that?
[17:16] <ikonia> tarwater: #bash is the channel
[17:16] <tarwater> ikonia, they told me to come here!
[17:16] <tarwater> good lord
[17:16] <ikonia> tarwater: nope, #bash is for bash scripting
[17:17] <Mandeep_Singh> AssociateX, from the volume keys on your keyboard
[17:17] <AssociateX> Mandeep_Singh, it already shows as at 100%
[17:18] <Guest12812> Hey
[17:19] <Revian1> ikonia: He just keeps trying, doesn't he/
[17:19] <Guest12812> Keeps trying what?
[17:19] <Guest12812> Who is he?
[17:20] <Revian1> I have a game (Crack Attack, from the Ubuntu repos) that, when played too long, shuts down the computer. I would like to know how to avoid that. Isn't there some protection in place to prevent this behavior? Shouold I fule a bug?
[17:20]  * Revian1 dislikes laptop keyboards.
[17:20] <jatin30> Hey! I am not able to install google chrome in my ubuntu 15.10 as its not detecting the package. Could anyone help me with it?
[17:21] <baizon> !info chromium-browser | jatin30
[17:21] <Guest12812> Hey, have you tried doing sudo apt-get install chromium?
[17:21] <TopGear> Just a quick question, does anyone know why the /wily/ branch's disappeared from http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/? Getting 404's whilst updating...
[17:21] <baizon> Guest12812: chromium-browser
[17:21] <Guest12812> Or have you downloaded the .deb from the webiste?
[17:21] <Guest12812> Ah okay baizon.  I will fuck your brain  every fuching day
[17:30] <baizon> !ops
[17:30] <ikonia> baizon: ?
[17:30] <baizon> sorry, saw it to late :(
[17:31] <baizon> really sorry
[17:31] <ikonia> ok
[17:31] <baizon> ikonia: Nostradamus1ST
[17:31] <ikonia> yes, I can see
[17:31] <baizon> but he left already
[17:32] <jatin30> but how do I install it
[17:32] <ziz15> hi, i try to install origin via playonlinux..after i managed to install origin (cp files from windows and etc) when it starts it say it cant connect to internet..anyone can help?thanks
[17:32] <Revian1> jatin30: sudo apt-get install chrome-browser
[17:32] <ziz15> also i have installed mono and gecko
[17:32] <jatin30> sudo apt-get install google-chrome version=?
[17:33] <jatin30> ok got it
[17:33] <baizon> jatin30: https://askubuntu.com/questions/250773/how-do-i-install-chromium-from-the-command-line
[17:33] <jatin30> unable to locate package
[17:34] <baizon> ziz15: try #playonlinux
[17:34] <Revian1> jatin30: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:34] <Revian1> jatin30: sorry about that
[17:36] <raketensilo> What is the easiest whay to install php in zts mode with pthreads on a ubuntu machine.  My terminal and the borders of my windows are black.It happened after I upgraded to 15.04. Bumblebee stopped working for me so I tried to reinstall it with these instructions http://rajat-osgyan.blogspot.com/2015/03/how-to-install-bumblebee-on-ubuntu.html
[17:55] <xentity1x> Can anyone help?
[17:56] <acovrig> I have a 3.13.0-83-generic kernel and am trying to pass a PCIe USB card through to a VM (libvirt); and am hitting a groups issue (http://vfio.blogspot.com/2014/08/vfiovga-faq.html); how do I tell if I have kernel support for ACS?
[17:57] <loa> acovrig, you patch for your kernel.
[17:57] <loa> you need *
[17:59] <xentity1x> Hi I'm getting a weird error. My terminal and the borders of my windows are black.It happened after I upgraded to 15.04. Bumblebee stopped working for me so I tried to reinstall it with these instructions http://rajat-osgyan.blogspot.com/2015/03/how-to-install-bumblebee-on-ubuntu.html
[17:59] <dfas> hello! - How do I boot from a USB drive recognized as fd0 via Grub?
[18:00] <skinux> I've a possibly strange question...also a random question. If IPTables is installed and configured for all ports to be blocked for incoming, does that make it unhackable if there aren't really any services communicating with the internet?
[18:01] <Revian1> skinux: I don't think it makes the machine unhackable, but it is much more secure than a machine with world-facing open ports.
[18:02] <MrPurrfect> I must learn how to TYPE to keep up with you people!!
[18:02] <acovrig> loa, OK, do you think installing 4.4.6 would be enough, or sould I patch the source of 3.13 and build it?
[18:03] <Revian1> skinux: The only unhackable operating system is one that is powered off. And, even then, physical access=game over.
[18:06] <loa> acovrig, i can save you some time, and from my personal experience i can save this is very bad idea.
[18:06] <loa> acovrig, if device is not in separate group, there is reason.
[18:12] <acovrig> loa, *sigh* I bought a USB PCIe card just so I could hot-plug USB devices to a VM...
[18:16] <RoundDuckMan> is there any logs that document downloads or connections to servers?
[18:17] <Revian1> RoundDuckMan: Your web browser likely keeps a list of downloads
[18:17] <Revian1> I know Firefox does, unless the user turns that option off
[18:18] <RoundDuckMan> Revian, it didn't keep I download I got a while ago, maybe my fault
[18:18] <RoundDuckMan> *the
[18:18] <RoundDuckMan> Revian1, it didn't keep the download I got a while ago, maybe my fault
[18:18] <Revian1> RoundDuckMan: You might have turned the option off
[18:19] <dartlen> 1
[18:19] <RoundDuckMan> Revian1 No, more like clearing stuff off my things like cookies or download history in Chromium
[18:19] <Revian1> RoundDuckMan: Yeah, that will do it too
[18:19] <RoundDuckMan> Revian1 Is there log files in root?
[18:20] <RoundDuckMan> Revian1 or in home?
[18:20] <RoundDuckMan> that document internet connections or downloads
[18:20] <RoundDuckMan> and maybe other crap I bet
[18:20] <Revian1> RoundDuckMan: For downloads, unlikely if you use the browser to download
[18:20] <Revian1> Not sure about connections
[18:21] <RoundDuckMan> Revian1: Isn't there a log for that stuff? Isn't that how people find what malware does to their computers like connecting them to other sites and all that?
[18:21] <me> Hi all
[18:22] <Guest85310> are you getting me ?
[18:23] <Guest85310> guys I need some help
[18:23] <squinty> !ask
[18:23] <ikonia> then just ask and wait for a response
[18:24] <Guest85310> after upgrading my Ubuntu Mate to 15.10 version its running little slower and getting hung sometimes
[18:24] <ph> !patience
[18:24] <Guest85310> are any of you facing the same issue ?
[18:25] <colept> Yes
[18:25] <colept> I upgraded, not to Ubuntu Mate
[18:25] <colept> but recently, and whenever cron.daily runs, my system goes unresponsive
[18:25] <colept> if I run it directly, not a problem
[18:26] <Guest85310> is there any solution for that yet ?
[18:27] <Capricorn> What is a good all-in one printer, with Ubuntu? My Canon pixma mx850 is not able. Ideas ... let me know
[18:27] <colept> Check your syslog
[18:28] <colept> If your system is stalling, there should be a gap in the logs
[18:28] <colept> for example my hangs on `(test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ))`
[18:28] <dartlen> hi
[18:28] <colept> I've read that it could be something to do with aptitude upgrade
[18:28] <Guest85310> exdit
[18:29] <xentity1x> Hi I'm getting an error where the borders of all my windows are black. It happened after I upgraded to 15.04 and I tried reinstalling bumblebee. Can anyone help?
[18:29] <dartlen> есть русские?
[18:30] <Revian1> !re
[18:30] <Revian1> !ru
[18:32] <antonispgs> !el
[18:33] <squinty> xentity1x,  15.04 is eol  and nvidia-prime is recommended these days instead of bumblebee
[18:33] <dartlen> 1
[18:33] <xentity1x> squinty- should i just upgrade to 15.10?
[18:33] <dartlen> 1
[18:33] <dartlen> 2
[18:34] <squinty> xentity1x,  that is most current supported version
[18:34] <rud0lf> !pl
[18:35] <DaniKitten> Hello?
[18:35] <CyanBlob> DaniKitten, Hi?
[18:36] <DaniKitten> I had a problem with the wireless with ubuntu 12.04
[18:36] <CyanBlob> Are you on a laptop? Is it a fresh install?
[18:38] <DaniKitten> a laptop, multiboot with windows nt 5.1
[18:41] <DaniKitten> when I installed Ubuntu 12.04, everything worked perfectly, but at the third day the wireless just gone
[18:41] <DaniKitten> I tried reinstalling but no one worked
[18:41] <CyanBlob> Is there a reason you went with Ubuntu 12.04 instead of 14.04 or 15.10?
[18:41] <nuno_nunes> DaniKitten, windows NT 5.1 is not exist, windows XP (NT 5.1)
[18:41] <DaniKitten> so I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 and I don't have problems now
[18:42] <DaniKitten> I downloaded 12.04 because I didn't have BitTorrent, and the dounload would be very slow
[18:43] <DaniKitten> nuno_nunes, I known, Windows NT 5.1 is Windows XP
[18:43] <nuno_nunes> yes
[18:43] <nuno_nunes> :)
[18:43] <DaniKitten> nuno_nunes, Nt 6.0 is Vista, 6.1 is Seven and 6.2 is Windows 8
[18:45] <CyanBlob> DaniKitten, Well, it'd probably be better to just say XP. That way people know what you're talking about without having to look it up.
[18:45] <nuno_nunes> i using windows 10
[18:45] <DaniKitten> well, is windows xp
[18:45] <nuno_nunes> for testing
[18:45] <nuno_nunes> .0
[18:45] <nuno_nunes> :p
[18:45] <Whiskey-> Finns det någon från japan här, som kan läsa och skriva japanska?
[18:45] <nuno_nunes> NT 10
[18:46] <Whiskey-> haha
[18:46] <nuno_nunes> !japanise
[18:46] <Whiskey-> is there anyone from japan here that can read and speak japanese?
[18:46] <nuno_nunes> !japan
[18:46] <|avalon|> !jp
[18:47] <DaniKitten> But, why I had that problem with Ubuntu 14.04
[18:47] <DaniKitten> ?
[18:47] <gde33> I added http://ppa.launchpad.net/alex-p/kvirc/ubuntu to the software updates thingy, now I have 2 entries there, the second has (source code) behind it. Should I enable that too?
[18:47] <nuno_nunes> DaniKitten, 32 bits or 64 bits
[18:47] <DaniKitten> 32 bits
[18:48] <Bashing-om> gde33: Are you interested in "source' code ? No, then do not enable .
[18:48] <DaniKitten> I don't have those new expensive laptops, this is just an HP 2140
[18:48] <DaniKitten> With 1 GB RAM
[18:48] <gde33> Bashing-om: thank you
[18:48] <nuno_nunes> DaniKitten, testing lubuntu
[18:49] <Whiskey-> ubottu, i guss then you are from japan?
[18:49] <Whiskey-> hehe
[18:49] <DaniKitten> But, what was the problem? I wanna known
[18:49] <Whiskey-> could be
[18:50] <nuno_nunes> problem?
[18:50] <DaniKitten> If that help, I have a Broadcom network card (I don't known the model)
[18:51] <nuno_nunes> is a not problemn
[18:52] <nuno_nunes> broadcom 43xx
[18:52] <nuno_nunes> '
[18:52] <elacheche_anis> Hey! Anyone here is using a Lenovo G50 and had issues with keyboard and touchpad?
[18:52] <DaniKitten> But why?
[18:52] <CyanBlob> elacheche_anis, I used to use a Lenovy Y580 without problems
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> elacheche_anis  that's a yes/no question ... what brings you here?
[18:53] <nuno_nunes> my old dell is broken using broadcom wireless 43xx
[18:54] <elacheche_anis> MonkeyDust: Just a sec, I'll share the bug report it's better x) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/896922
[18:54] <elacheche_anis> It's an old bug report, but it's affecting me right now..
[18:54] <DaniKitten> nuno_nunes, Broadcom 4315
[18:55] <elacheche_anis> I find that bug report becasue of my dmesg outputs, and I'm trying to locate the keyboard outputs to try to find something else :/
[18:56] <nuno_nunes> DaniKitten, https://beercafe.wordpress.com/tag/bcm4315-install-linux/
[18:58] <elacheche_anis> CyanBlob: MonkeyDust actually I have that kernel output only after I use the keyboard, then the touchpad lose the sync, and of course, the keyboard is not usable :/
[18:58] <elacheche_anis> I don't have this issue all the time, only every X days :/
[18:58] <rud0lf> <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom was bugged on my 4312
[18:59] <rud0lf> it frozen system at cat /proc/brcm_monitor0
[18:59] <rud0lf> same for opening /proc/ directory with nautilus, which (i believe so) reads few bytess from every file to obtain its format
[19:04] <nuno_nunes> rud0lf, why this driver
[19:05] <eelstrebor> i upgraded gtk+ to version 3.20 and now i get "low graphics mode" after a reboot (ubuntu 14.04)
[19:05] <rud0lf> it was installed from "additional drivers" as proprietary driver
[19:06] <DaniKitten> What is "Lubuntu"?
[19:06] <Loquendo18> j
[19:06] <DaniKitten> I known that isn't a typographic mistake because a lot of people taks about it
[19:06] <eelstrebor> i got logged in in a terminal but have no dns so i can't try remove/reinstall
[19:07] <nuno_nunes> DaniKitten, Lubuntu = LXDE
[19:07] <Bashing-om> DaniKitten: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[19:09] <elacheche_anis> :)
[19:10] <DaniKitten> My brother have an old big laptop with DVD drive, I can install the Lubuntu and runs?
[19:11] <DaniKitten> Is 512MB RAM, Intel Centrino
[19:11] <Mzg> What a coincidence! Im installin lubuntu right now
[19:11] <Mzg> I have 256MB Ram on my machine and works fine
[19:12] <Bashing-om> DaniKitten: Will run, but not well. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ .
[19:13] <DaniKitten> Or on my very old PC with 192 MB RAM and Pentium III
[19:13] <Bashing-om> DaniKitten: With that low of sroecs .. you are looking at puppy or tiny core or similar .
[19:14] <ElOco> Hey trying to install Deus Ex Invisible war under play on linux, the torrent readme says the disk has to be mounted in order to play
[19:14] <ElOco> http://pastebin.com/4dcfAKFz
[19:14] <DaniKitten> Puppy is symbol of BUGGY
[19:14] <DaniKitten> I tried it and sometimes hangs
[19:14] <ElOco> I went under configure wine and I see the drive
[19:15] <ikonia> ElOco: we are not helping you with illegal actions
[19:15] <ElOco> it's mounted on thunar
[19:15] <ikonia> ElOco: please don't ask any more
[19:15] <ElOco> but when I run the game it says please insert disk
[19:18] <bluefive> Any idea why when I mute BEEP in Alsamixer I lose some of the annoying background hiss?
[19:18] <bluefive> It's still there but unmuting BEEP makes it more obnoxious.
[19:18] <bluefive> How could that be?
[19:19] <bluefive> When I mute the Master I lose all the white noise entirely.
[19:20] <bluefive> When I set it to 0 it's still there.
[19:21] <Loquendo18> v
[19:21] <Loquendo18> help
[19:21] <bluefive> Folks?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> Loquendo18  let's here it, in one line
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[19:25] <colept> I recently upgraded ubuntu and now "apt-xapian-index" is crashing every day (for the cron.weekly task)
[19:25] <colept> What would cause apt-xapian-index to eat up all the CPU and stall?
[19:29] <jatt> apt-xapian-index is crap, remove it, is not needed
[19:29] <bluefive> "You need a good o/s though, as Ubuntu 14.04 uses 35 CPU but Ubuntu Mate 15.10 uses 10 !"
[19:29] <bluefive> What does this mean?
[19:30] <bluefive> NATE uses less resources?
[19:30] <Kevin`> how can I properly tell ubuntu to boot from an encrypted partition on a system that wasn't previously installed with fde?
[19:31] <ikonia> Kevin`: you can't
[19:32] <ikonia> that would defeat the object of encyption
[19:32] <Kevin`> I don't think you understand
[19:32] <Loquendo18> ayuda
[19:32] <Kevin`> ikonia: I want to encrypt an ubuntu system
[19:33] <EriC^^> Kevin`: your questions sounds odd/misleading
[19:34] <EriC^^> what exactly is it your trying to do?
[19:34] <stacy-> Hello i just unziped a joomla install to /var/www/html but when i go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> i just see the default apache page ?? what is going on ?
[19:34] <Kevin`> EriC^^: encrypt an ubuntu system without reinstalling
[19:34] <EriC^^> oh
[19:35] <EriC^^> Kevin`: i'd back up the data and reinstall using encryption in the installer then copy them back
[19:35] <Kevin`> that's essentially reinstalling just to find the boot line then wiping the install
[19:36] <Kevin`> i'd rather someone tell me what the boot line should look like so I can be done 3 minutes from now
[19:36] <ikonia> it's not just the boot line
[19:36] <EriC^^> that doesn't make sense
[19:36] <ikonia> you need to basically create new crypto devices
[19:36] <Loquendo18> hhgfdgfd
[19:36] <Mathisen> why kick stacy- ?
[19:36] <Kevin`> I already have a copy of the data, I already have the os partition encrypted and lvm set up on it
[19:36] <ikonia> which means you'd need to put new volume groups and file systems together
[19:36] <Kevin`> I just can't boot from it cuz there's no docs
[19:37] <ikonia> Kevin`: does the initrd have all the crypto modules in ?
[19:37] <bluefive> 'Could it be that my HARDWARE ITSELF would make white noise when I have headphones plugged in?
[19:37] <bluefive> Or is that a software issue?
[19:37] <Kevin`> I don't know, but I shouldn't have to manually add entries for those, and scripts, since the package manager knows how to do it
[19:38] <Kevin`> as it is i'm preparing to start up a new virtual machine with ubuntu just to see what the package manager does for encryption
[19:38] <Kevin`> :(
[19:38] <hudson> ola
[19:40] <pistolpete> I have gparted in ubuntu 14.04.... when I started this whole thing, I had Win7... now I dont.... how do I get it back
[19:40] <ikonia> pistolpete: how about tell us what you really did
[19:40] <ikonia> pistolpete: you don't start gparted and windows dissapears
[19:40] <Kevin`> pistolpete: does the partition still exist? if you deleted it, did you overwrite it?
[19:41] <pistolpete> I had Win7in, then ubuntu in... now I dont have Win7?
[19:41] <ikonia> pistolpete: what did you do
[19:41] <ikonia> it doesn't dissapear on it's own
[19:41] <Kevin`> pistolpete: that's what you just said, answer the questions
[19:41] <SierraKomodo> pistolpete: What exactly did you do in gparted on ubuntu? Keep in mind gparted affects the entire disk, not just your ubuntu partition
[19:41] <pistolpete> its deleted
[19:41] <EriC^^> pistolpete: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:42] <Kevin`> ikonia: ..
[19:42] <SierraKomodo> Well I guess that's one way of handling things
[19:42] <SierraKomodo> People like that tend to take some prying and specific questioning to get details from though, probably would've been better to work with him :P
[19:44] <Guest83913> does anyone know of an app where I can do floor plans and design for ubuntu 15.10?
[19:45] <yoink> hey is there any way to do a pre-release upgrade from the commandline from 14.04.4 to 16.04 beta 2?
[19:45] <EriC^^> pistolpete: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:45] <stacy-> i just unziped a joomla install to /var/www/html but when i go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> i just see the default apache page ?? cant see the joomal page..
[19:45] <EriC^^> in a terminal, and paste the link it gives you here
[19:46] <ikonia> stacy-: did you read the documents I gave you yesterday ?
[19:46] <ikonia> stacy-: and the explination on how to setup your web stack ?
[19:46] <EriC^^> yoink: yeah, with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[19:46] <Kevin`> pistolpete: did you overwrite windows with ubuntu or JUST delete it?
[19:47] <pistolpete> just delete it...ty
[19:47] <Kevin`> pistolpete: you can probably restore it with testdisk
[19:47] <SierraKomodo> stacy-: Do you have an index.html file in /var/www/html
[19:47] <LuckyTux> Anyone here had experience with macchanger?
[19:47] <EriC^^> pistolpete: if you type that command, it will tell the extent of the damage
[19:47] <yoink> EriC^^: hah - I had set it to "normal" to try to do the 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10 update and forgot to set it back. thanks
[19:48] <stacy-> sierrakomodo..yes.. i did.
[19:48] <pistolpete> ty
[19:48] <colept> Why would /etc/cron.weekly/apt-xapian-index cause the system to freeze?
[19:48] <ikonia> stacy-: did you read and carry out the documentation I gave you yesterday
[19:48] <jatt> because is crap, uninstall it
[19:48] <SierraKomodo> stacy-: Likely the problem then. Apache apparently defaults to .html over .php. I'd recommend renaming index.html to index.html.backup just in case, instead of deleting it, though, then see if that fixes it
[19:48] <stacy-> sierrakomodo.. i then removed the index.html to test agin...but it still showed the apache page
[19:49] <SierraKomodo> stacy-: In that case there may be something else. Did you follow the documentation ikonia sent you?
[19:49] <ikonia> stacy-: did you READ and Follow the documents I gave you last night
[19:49] <stacy-> i had too many problems with the mysql yesturday.. i didnt work on joomal until today
[19:50] <ikonia> stacy-: did you READ and Follow the documents I gave you last night
[19:50] <stacy-> ikonia..i did not know you gave me documents
[19:50] <ikonia> stacy-: really - you don't know the documents I gave you 3 - 4 times ?
[19:51] <notalentgeek> Hello not Ubuntu related question but what is the differences between this cable http://cdn3.volusion.com/cygqn.ryfhk/v/vspfiles/photos/U3A1-MCB-TO-2.jpg and normal micro USB cable for phone charging? I can use both for transfer data from external HDD into my laptop, but the micro USB definetely lack some pins compared to the first one.
[19:51] <ikonia> notalentgeek: it's not ubuntu - so please don't ask in here
[19:51] <orange_aideron> hi guys
[19:52] <eNull> Oh! My linux showd suddenly terminal screen with this message "Restoring resolver state" !!!
[19:52] <ikonia> stacy-: https://help.ubuntu.om
[19:52] <stacy-> i am sorry ikonia ..i do not know what documents you are refering to..you never gave me any documents
[19:52] <eNull> Saned disabled: /etc/default/saned
[19:52] <ikonia> stacy-: there is a guide in there about how to setup the web services
[19:52] <EriC^^> pistolpete: the more you use ubuntu if it was written over windows, the more you risk losing windows or any data there, it would be better to use a live usb to diagnose stuff
[19:52] <ikonia> !lamp > stacy-
[19:52] <orange_aideron> notalentgeek, I think one only charges the other can do data also
[19:52] <Loquendo18> ayuda estoy haciendome una cunta bnc pero cuando me intentio unirme se me desconecta la cuenta
[19:52] <ikonia> stacy-: ubottu has also once again sent you a document with even more detail on how to setup the lamp stack you ask about
[19:53] <ikonia> stacy-: again - please do not repeat over and over again why it's broken until you have read these documents
[19:53] <ikonia> if you have questions about the documents - please ask
[19:53] <stacy-> my lamp stack is step up almost plese dont flood me with the documents
[19:53] <ikonia> stacy-: I've not flooded you with documents
[19:53] <orange_aideron> stacy-, the documents are the web addresses people are providing
[19:53] <orange_aideron> follow them and take a read
[19:53] <ikonia> I've gien you 1 URL in a public channel - and I've had ubottu send you a private link with more detail on
[19:54] <ikonia> please read them before continuing this discussion, ask any questions about the docs if you're not sure
[19:54] <ikonia> win 7
[19:55] <orange_aideron> ikonia, win7?
[19:55] <ikonia> a typo
[19:55] <orange_aideron> lol
[19:56] <Kevin`> the first 19 windows are on alt-keys
[19:56] <Kevin`> notalentgeek: that's a usb 3.0 cable
[19:56] <er473hrse> google
[19:57] <Loquendo18> ayuda
[19:57] <stacy-> the problems is cause because of lamp having apache and also apache2 ?
[19:57] <Loquendo18> T-T
[19:57] <stacy-> caused
[19:57] <ikonia> stacy-: lamp does not have 2 versions of apache
[19:57] <ikonia> stacy-: lamp has one
[19:57] <ikonia> and if you read the documentation it explains how to install it
[19:58] <stacy-> i have lamp installed and setup already since yesturday
[19:58] <ikonia> how have you validated that ?
[19:58] <stacy-> i feel stressed out.. brb
[20:01] <Emperor_Earth> Jordan_U: Hey
[20:11] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth: Hi. Did you get the link that I posted to the 14.04 mini iso (that can be UEFI booted from a USB drive)?
[20:12] <unicornjedi> hello
[20:12] <unicornjedi> does anyone have time to help me with a short script... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15507248/
[20:13] <p41nk1ll3r> hi
[20:13] <unicornjedi> hiii
[20:13] <ranguli> Hey, trying to get NVIDIA drivers working on 15.10 with a GTX 750ti. I've tried about every article online with no real luck. Can explain further if anyones able to help
[20:13] <p41nk1ll3r> can anyone help me out with booting from a usb
[20:13] <ranguli> @
[20:14] <ranguli> @p41nk1ll3r yea!
[20:15] <p41nk1ll3r> alright, I've manage to burn an image with winusb
[20:15] <p41nk1ll3r> but when i enter the bios
[20:15] <geirha> unicornjedi: numbers starting with 0 will be treated as octal, so the numeric comparisons will fail between 0800 and 1000
[20:15] <p41nk1ll3r> it wont show
[20:16] <unicornjedi> geirha? i just want my screen to rotate right as well in the script
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/tmp/ubuntu_14.04_minimal_uefi_bios_hybrid.iso (I hope that I am correctly remembering both your issue and the version of Ubuntu you wanted).
[20:17] <unicornjedi> geirha, I can't right scripts... someone else wrote this for me. So I'm like stuck haha
[20:17] <unicornjedi> *write
[20:18] <p41nk1ll3r> any ideas? ranguli?
[20:18] <geirha> unicornjedi: does it have to be an sh script?
[20:18] <geirha> unicornjedi: whoever wrote it didn't do a good job
[20:18] <unicornjedi> geirha, really? :( well its working so far
[20:19] <CyanBlob> p41nk1ll3r, What doesn't show? The USB stick, or Ubuntu?
[20:19] <CyanBlob> Where exactly in the process are you getting?
[20:19] <ranguli> @p41nk1ll3r in my experience usually Unetbootin does the job. I've tried other usb installers but I usually end up bouncing back and forth before settling on Unet which almost always works
[20:19] <p41nk1ll3r> the stick
[20:20] <p41nk1ll3r> yeah with unetbootin It would show, but it woundn't boot from it even with it being the first option
[20:20] <ranguli> there's also rufus and universal usb installer. but almost every problem I've had with bootable USB's has been fixed with either changing the installer or using a different usb
[20:20] <ouroumov__> p41nk1ll3r, did you "disconnect the device securely" or whatever it's called in Windows?
[20:20] <unicornjedi> geirha, ye it has to be a sh script.
[20:21] <p41nk1ll3r> i'm using ubuntu
[20:21] <ouroumov__> Okya
[20:21] <ranguli> sometimes formatting the drive before running the installer helps too (if it doesn't do it for you)
[20:21] <ouroumov__> p41nk1ll3r, did you type "sync" after burning the image?
[20:21] <p41nk1ll3r> I did that
[20:21] <p41nk1ll3r> no
[20:21] <p41nk1ll3r> where do I type that?
[20:21] <geirha> unicornjedi: It will fail for the reason I explained earlier, I'd also expect xrandr to fail when DISPLAY contains gibberish, but anyway, if it's "working" as you say, what's the problem you need help with?
[20:21] <ouroumov__> In a terminal, but I've no experience of unetbooting, maybe it does it for you.
[20:22] <ouroumov__> unetbootin *
[20:23] <ranguli> @ouroumov__ which method do you use? i've never used sync
[20:23] <ouroumov__> ranguli,  dd command, then sync command
[20:24] <geirha> Ah, it adds -d :0 to work around that bug
[20:24] <p41nk1ll3r> also, I had to use a version of unebootin that doesn't show on software center
[20:24] <unicornjedi> geirha, can you edit the script so that it includes 'xrandr -o right' in both cases?
[20:24] <ouroumov__> ranguli,  dd command writes but unless a specific option is passed it doesn't write "for real", it writes to buffer
[20:24] <p41nk1ll3r> as the one that shows doesnt recognize my isos
[20:24] <ouroumov__> ranguli, "sync" flushes the output buffer
[20:24] <geirha> unicornjedi: well did you try adding -o right yourself?
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> !info redshift | unicornjedi
[20:25] <unicornjedi> geirha, i cant write scripts... nor do I know its syntax. im a noooooob
[20:26] <binary01>  hi all, i am having trouble booting into my desktop. At first after i try to login it would just return to login screen. i read that i may be a problem with lightdm and to try gdm instead. i installed gdm and now i get a black screen on boot. does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:27] <geirha> I have a hard time editing just that part without fixing the other glaring bugs, but that basically requires the whole script to be rewritten
[20:27] <ikonia> binary01: did you progress what I suggested earlier ?
[20:27] <unicornjedi> geirha, oh... maybe i can try your version
[20:28] <binary01> hi ikonia: yes, i got a grub prompt
[20:28] <ikonia> binary01: great, can you get into recovery shell ?
[20:28] <binary01> not sure how to do that. i dont see a list of options. just a prompt
[20:28] <ikonia> you don't get a grub menu up ?
[20:28] <ikonia> how are you getting into the "prompt" ?
[20:28] <binary01> i didnt see one
[20:29] <binary01> i am pressing e
[20:29] <binary01> shift and esc didnt work
[20:29] <ikonia> you need to get into the menu
[20:29] <ikonia> you need to find out why that's not working then
[20:29] <ikonia> thats pretty key
[20:29] <unicornjedi> geirha, brb
[20:31] <ikonia> binary01: how very dissapointing, it would appear in 14.04 they set the hidemenu option in grub
[20:31] <ikonia> binary01: you'll need to boot from live media to edit the grub.con to disable the hidemenu
[20:31] <bumbar> i've copied windows 10 iso with dd from terminal, but when i try to boot it says disk failure
[20:31] <binary01> ikonia: i got to a list of options. i go to advanced options
[20:32] <ikonia> binary01: fantastic, how did you get that up ?
[20:32] <binary01> i see like 8 options that all look the same
[20:32] <binary01> i pressed e once..
[20:32] <binary01> instead of banging it
[20:32] <ikonia> binary01: interesting,
[20:32] <ikonia> binary01: do you not see a menu option that says recovery, or fall back or anything like that ?
[20:32] <binary01> yes i go
[20:32] <binary01> i clicked it
[20:33] <binary01> i am at a recovery menu
[20:33] <ikonia> what are your options ?
[20:33] <binary01> about 8 options
[20:34] <binary01> resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, fsck, grub, network, root. system-summary
[20:34] <ikonia> hit failsafex
[20:36] <binary01> it seems like its booting but nothing is happening
[20:37] <stacy-> 2 days ago lamp was installed and it came with apache .. and today apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql  for preparation of joomla.. anyway to test to see if lamp installed apache or apache2 ?
[20:37] <ikonia> binary01: what do you see
[20:37] <stacy-> could this be causing the conflict for joomla?
[20:37] <ikonia> stacy-: how did you install lamp the first time ?
[20:37] <binary01> /dev/sda5.... recovering journal
[20:37] <ikonia> as this seems very odd
[20:37] <ikonia> when we spoke less than 24 hours ago yhou didn't have lamp installed
[20:37] <ikonia> now 2 days ago you had it installed ?
[20:38] <robert__>  Hello everyone
[20:38] <ikonia> binary01: thats ok - let that run, that may take some time
[20:39] <binary01> ok thanks. ill come back when i see something
[20:39] <bprompt> stacy-:   you could check I gather with -> dpkg -l | grep apache
[20:39] <stacy-> bprompt thanks
[20:39] <ikonia> that won't help if the install has been something like xammp
[20:39] <ikonia> stacy-: how did you install lamp the first time
[20:40] <ikonia> and what happened after that as we spoke less than 24 hours ago, you didn't have lamp installed, but now you say you've had it installed for 2 days
[20:40] <ikonia> can you clarify what's going on please ?
[20:40] <stacy-> ikonia.. desktop was installed and lamp was installed right afterwards
[20:41] <ikonia> stacy-: how did you install lamp ?
[20:41] <ikonia> and yesterday you said you had a clean desktop install after the server installed failed and you didn't have lamp
[20:41] <ikonia> now you're saying you did this 48 hours ago ?
[20:41] <stacy-> ikonia.. i use the desktop shell to install lamp
[20:41] <ikonia> stacy-: how
[20:41] <stacy-> hold on..let me look for my logs
[20:42] <Mathisen> ikonia, i guided him today.. he said he had lamp installed what i have told him to do is to install apache2 php5 mysql and then made a database with mysql .. then we wget joomla and unziped it the strange thing is apache is showing default welcome for him when joomla is in apache directory
[20:42] <ikonia> Mathisen: thats unrealistic
[20:42] <Mathisen> then i told him to ask here
[20:42] <unicornjedi> geirha, hey hey
[20:43] <stacy-> sudo apt-get install git
[20:43] <stacy-> git clone https://github.com/arbabnazar/Automated-LAMP-installation-git
[20:43] <stacy-> chmod +x lamp.sh
[20:43] <stacy-> sudo ./lamp.sh
[20:43] <ikonia> Mathisen: if they had lamp installed - apache2/php5 would not install
[20:43] <ikonia> there we go
[20:43] <ikonia> so this is a mess
[20:43] <Mathisen> ikonia, um just saying what i know
[20:43] <Mathisen> im
[20:43] <ikonia> stacy-: so stacy - that is exactly the oposite of what I told you to do
[20:43] <ikonia> I gave you documentation with VERY clear instructions of what to do - you've ignored them and done something you where told not to do
[20:44] <stacy-> i installed lamp wrong?
[20:44] <ikonia> stacy-: you need to re-install ubuntu to get to a known good state as what that script does / how it does the install is unsure, and the fact that you can install packages like apache2 means it did not use ubuntu packages
[20:44] <ikonia> stacy-: you did exactly what you where told not to do
[20:44] <ikonia> stacy-: I gave you detailed info on how to install lamp on ubuntu desktop
[20:45] <stacy-> i didnt ask anybbody about lamp in here previous days
[20:45] <ikonia> yes you did
[20:45] <ikonia> hence why I gave you links
[20:45] <ikonia> and I told you very clearly to get your requirements together before coming back to discuss it more
[20:45] <ikonia> as you didn't really have them set out
[20:46] <ikonia> stacy-: your best cause of action is a clean ubuntu install - then move forward with the documentation I gave you from there
[20:46] <ikonia> course of action sorry
[20:47] <unicornjedi> geirha, you there bud?
[20:47] <xangua> ! Ask
[20:48] <Mathisen> ikonia, should it not still use /var/www/html ??? ..
[20:48] <Mathisen> or does it use a diffrent working directory ?
[20:48] <ikonia> what lamp stack is running - how was the other one configured, is the other one runing, what version is the other one etc etc
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> check the config and find out?
[20:48] <ikonia> we just don't know - we know it didn't use the ubuntu apckages
[20:48] <ikonia> packages
[20:48] <ikonia> so a clean install and move forward safely is the best option
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> actually it looks like that script just used apt-get, and set the mysql password to MYPASSWORD123
[20:49] <ikonia> can't have done
[20:49] <ikonia> or the apache packages wouldn't have installed - as they would already have been there
[20:49] <ikonia> something is not adding up
[20:49] <ikonia> a clean install is the safe way forward
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> I agree it does not add up.
[20:49] <ikonia> there is a lot of hidden/missleading information being shared
[20:50] <ikonia> eg: this was done 48 hours ago, yet less than 24 hours ago - this lamp install didn't exist
[20:50] <binary01> ikonia: nothing was happening and i was thinking to try to drop into a root shell and try dpkg-reconfigure lightdm.. that was the last command i did before i got a black screen (i chose gdm before). now i try to choose lightdm again and im getting an error that it cant move the file because it is a read-only file system.. any way i can get this working?
[20:50] <ikonia> binary01: what was the last thing you did
[20:51] <binary01> i ran sudo dpkg-configure gdm and i chose gdm as display manager. now im trying to change it back to lightdm
[20:51] <ikonia> binary01: why !!!!
[20:51] <binary01> but its saying the filesystem is read only
[20:51] <ikonia> binary01: I told you to let the disk recovery finish
[20:51] <ikonia> and warned you it would take time !!!!
[20:51] <ikonia> rushing in blind is why you are in this mess
[20:52] <Emperor_Earth> Jordan_U: Hey, I'm trying it out now. I'll let you know how it goes. Sorry. My IRC log doesn't go back very far so I didn't catch it before.
[20:52] <binary01> yea, i know. i thought of trying this. it seems like a reasonable thing to try
[20:52] <ikonia> why ???
[20:52] <sulfasal> I have a Sansa-clip media player. Lately when I plug it in the OS 15.10 creates a new directory for it like this: /media/sulfasal/6265-3832 the "real name" becomes 6265-38321. So now I have two dirs for the same thing. The wierd part is that the "real dir" is now owned by root and is empty, while the "new dir" has files in it but they can't be played because they reference the wrong dir. How to fix, pleas
[20:52] <ikonia> I TOLD you to let it finish and warned you it would take time
[20:52] <sulfasal> e.
[20:52] <ikonia> binary01: why did you ignore the advice after I told you what to do - and told you earlier you didn't understand the problem so where making things worse
[20:53] <binary01> this seemed like the right thing to do but i guess not
[20:53] <ikonia> why did it seem the right thing to do ???
[20:53] <ikonia> I told you exactly to wait for something that would take time
[20:53] <binary01> because its the reverse of what i did to get into this mess
[20:53] <ikonia> why did it seem the right thign to do to ignore that advice and try random things - more so when I'd told you earlier messing with gdm made things worse
[20:54] <ikonia> binary01: why ignore my advice though ???
[20:54] <andy> howdy linux fags
[20:54] <binary01> im not.. its taking so long i figured i could try this really fast
[20:54] <binary01> i will go back and let it start again
[20:54] <ikonia> so in the middle of a file system check - you thought it would be wise to try to manipulate the file system
[20:54] <ikonia> this is stupid
[20:55] <binary01> i hit ctrl+c.. it exited the system check
[20:55] <p41nk1ll3r> ok, I've managed to boot from the usb drive, but unetbootin doesn't do anything
[20:55] <ikonia> binary01: I'm not going to help you any more - you're making things worse for yourself, you're ingoring advice, don't know what you are doing and just guessing, you are wasting my time
[20:55] <binary01> ok. thanks anyway
[20:55] <ikonia> binary01: yes - it exited the disk check in the middle of it because you canceled it
[20:55] <p41nk1ll3r> it just stands there with a 10s countdown for automatic boot
[20:55] <ikonia> you may have wrecked your file system
[20:55] <p41nk1ll3r> I believe so
[20:56] <p41nk1ll3r> could it be that the fact that I have password protected my drive is keeping unetbootin from doing it's thing?
[20:58] <sulfasal> I have a Sansa-clip media player. Lately when I plug it in the OS 15.10 creates a new directory for it like this: /media/sulfasal/6265-3832 the "real name" becomes 6265-38321. So now I have two dirs for the same thing. The wierd part is that the "real dir" is now owned by root and is empty, while the "new dir" has files in it but they can't be played because they reference the wrong dir. How to fix, pleas
[20:58] <sulfasal> e.
[21:00] <p41nk1ll3r> ikonia do you how to remove the password I've set for the drive?
[21:00] <ikonia> p41nk1ll3r: what ?
[21:00] <Emperor_Earth> Jordan_U: Everythign looks good so far. I'm assuming it's 14.04 x64 minimal, which is the correct version. Thanks so much! I'll let you know if anything pops up or when it's done.
[21:00] <gregor3000> hello need help as the updater is stuck on "waiting for configuration file". what could that mean (Kubuntu 14.04/Muon Updater)
[21:01] <p41nk1ll3r> when I installed ubuntu, I set a password for the disk, thinking I was setting it for the personal account
[21:01] <p41nk1ll3r> now everytime I try to install anything it asks for a password
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth: You're welcome.
[21:01] <p41nk1ll3r> I want to undo that
[21:01] <ikonia> p41nk1ll3r: thats teh sudo password
[21:01] <ikonia> not the disk password
[21:02] <p41nk1ll3r> ah, thanks for clearing that
[21:06] <Kevin`> ikonia: i'm having trouble finding any actual configuration for the initramfs. the modules file is just empty in the vm. i'm close to the point of tracing the code line by line to find out where it's detecting encryption :/
[21:08] <prashant> ok
[21:09] <jameshes1on> anyone use irssi?
[21:09] <Kevin`> the wiki has several pages on encrypted filesystem and they are all wrong for the current ubuntu version. at least all the ones i've found so far
[21:10] <Bashing-om> jameshes1on: Many do, me included . What is the ubuntu question ?
[21:10] <jameshes1on> any general tips on usage?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> jameshes1on  that's a yes/no question ... yes, i use irssi
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> jameshes1on  basically: type some text, then hit enter
[21:11] <jameshes1on> k thx
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> jameshes1on  type   /help
[21:11] <Bashing-om> jameshes1on: No, not really. There is a dedicated channel here . #irssi .
[21:19] <AlexPortable> Can I use the presed i used for debian for ubuntu?
[21:21] <andy> : Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[21:23] <DuncanT> Hi, looks like my ISP has a transparent proxy that break packages (signature fails at random, independent of which mirror I use). I can avoid this using ftp rather than http, but I don't know how to set that for an install iso (specifically minimal install iso)
[21:24] <DuncanT> Can anybody suggest anything please?
[21:24] <andy> can somone send me gnome disc unitity
[21:24] <ikonia> andy: it's in the repos
[21:24] <ikonia> it's installed by default on ubuntu installs I think
[21:24] <ikonia> DuncanT: does the minimal not ask for a host to connect to ?
[21:24] <andy> TY
[21:24] <ikonia> DuncanT: you could just change it in the sources.list
[21:26] <DuncanT> ikonia: I can't find sources.list, the installer bails too early I think - "Invalid Release Signature" - looking at VT4 shows it is trying to do a debbootstap
[21:26] <ikonia> does it not just time out and let you set your own ?
[21:27] <DuncanT> ikonia: No, I get the error, then it drops me back to a long menu. Nowhere I can see to set a manual mirror config
[21:28] <DuncanT> ikonia: The step failing is "install the base system"
[21:28] <ikonia> I'd have to look at the menu options
[21:28] <ikonia> I don't have it to hand
[21:29] <DuncanT> ikonia: Ok, I'll keep trying, thanks
[21:29] <direhawk> hello
[21:30] <LekeFly> Ubuntu on a Google Cloud Compute engine running Ubuntu, i have added my user to the group root, but i still can't upload/edit files in a folder owned by root
[21:30] <ikonia> LekeFly: log out and back in
[21:30] <ikonia> make sure the directory is group writeable
[21:31] <LekeFly> ikonia it's not group writable, and i'm not allowed the change the permissions
[21:31] <LekeFly> Have logged out and in
[21:32] <ikonia> LekeFly: so ther is your problem
[21:32] <ikonia> LekeFly: you've added your user to the group - and it's not group writeable
[21:32] <ikonia> it can't work
[21:32] <Nimms> DuncanT, add "mirror/protocol=ftp" to boot parameters.
[21:32] <LekeFly> ikonia oh, i thought since i was in the root group i should be able anyway
[21:33] <ikonia> no
[21:33] <DuncanT> Nimms: Thanks! I'll try that
[21:34] <AlexPortable> Can I use the presed i used for debian for ubuntu?
[21:35] <ikonia> no
[21:35] <ikonia> it could be a starting point though
[21:40] <Kekko> hey everyone
[21:41] <Kekko> anyone here?
[21:41] <ikonia> many people
[21:41] <Kekko> so ya basically i got a question
[21:41] <ikonia> just ask it, if people can help, they will
[21:42] <Kekko> i want to run a root with steamcmd and a teamspeak server
[21:42] <ikonia> as long as it's ubuntu related, there will be no issue
[21:42] <Kekko> its ubuntu related
[21:42] <Kekko> and i need to create users who can access the different server via ftp
[21:42] <Kekko> servers*
[21:43] <Kekko> i thought about doing the whole chroot stuff but could i not just do the version describes here https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/vsftpd/
[21:43] <ikonia> ftp is a bad move
[21:43] <ikonia> but thats up to you
[21:43] <Kekko> where i create users and put the gameservers in there. and then i deny the shell access?
[21:44] <Kekko> i need to do it like that
[21:44] <ikonia> then do that
[21:44] <ikonia> it's a very bad idea, but up to you
[21:44] <Kekko> cause there are people without shell knowledge who need to access the servers
[21:44] <ikonia> it's up to you, I'm just warning you it's a bad design
[21:44] <Kekko> what would you recommend?
[21:45] <ikonia> sftp as a minimum
[21:45] <Kekko> yea i guess its sftp at a minimum
[21:45] <ikonia> even then, I'd question the design
[21:45] <Kekko> i wanted to do that, sorry for not statinf
[21:45] <Kekko> stating*
[21:45] <Kekko> how would i do it then?
[21:45] <Kekko> as a smart design
[21:46] <ikonia> dependso n a lot of things
[21:46] <Kekko> which would be?
[21:46] <ikonia> your ability, your needs, your software, your usecases
[21:46] <Kekko> ubuntu server
[21:46] <Kekko> not really experienced but willing to learn
[21:47] <Kekko> my needs : people must be able to upload files without shell knowledge
[21:47] <Kekko> which would also be my usecases i guess
[21:48] <Kekko> anything else?
[21:48] <ikonia> it's your system
[21:48] <ikonia> you'll have to manage it
[21:49] <Kekko> i know, but im asking experienced people for their thoughts
[21:49] <Kekko> like you
[21:49] <ikonia> I'd be looking at the inbuilt sftp server in the ssh package
[21:49] <Kekko> openssh?
[21:50] <Kekko> so the chroot stuff basically.
[21:50] <ikonia> yes
[21:50] <Kekko> yea might be more work but better.
[21:50] <Kekko> i guess i will do it that way.
[21:51] <Kekko> can i contact you here if i have further questions sometime?
[21:51] <ikonia> ask anyone in the channel
[21:51] <ikonia> 1500+ people here
[21:51] <Kekko> okay. thanks for helping a noob like me :)
[21:52] <ikonia> no problem
[21:52] <Kekko> i cant see the online people, really bad mobile irc client.
[21:52] <ph> @Kekko, perhaps this is interesting for you: http://serverfault.com/questions/354615/allow-sftp-but-disallow-ssh
[21:52] <Kekko> may i ask how experienced you are? you seem to know what ur doing
[21:52] <Kekko> thx ph
[21:53] <debug-> hi everyone
[21:53] <Kekko> ill have a look
[21:53] <debug-> spent awhile since the last time I was here. good to know there's still activity.
[21:53] <Capricorn> My system has 4 core, but i have notice just one is active most the times. Is that normal? Also will try to kick the CPU with a heavy load
[21:54] <debug-> does anyone know about a room for canvas, 3D vectors and stuff?
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | debug-
[21:55] <debug-> thanks SchrodingersScat
[21:55] <EOBeav> About 3x in the last couple of hours my ubuntu install will freeze up suddenly, and then kick me back to the login screen. Any ideas how to begin troubleshooting that?
[21:56] <Kekko> also im using windows, sadly, to access my server, shouls i use winscp or filezilla? winscp seems better cause it got putty integration.
[21:56] <AlexPortable> how do i preseed?
[21:56] <AlexPortable> auto url says cannot find kernel image auto
[21:56] <ph> @Kekko, winscp works best
[21:56] <Kekko> @ph thanks! :)
[21:57] <Kekko> ima go now, good evening, morning, noon or whatever to you peeps!
[21:57] <EOBeav> frick, it just happened again
[21:57] <Capricorn> My system has 4 core, but i have notice just one is active most the times. Is that normal? Also will try to kick the CPU with a heavy load. How do i change that my system use all 4 cores
[21:57] <Capricorn> ??
[21:58] <menad> hi
[21:59] <dax> Capricorn: if you don't have four things going on at once on four threads, it's not gonna use four cores
[21:59] <menad> hello
[22:00] <ph> @E0Beav, im not that experienced with that, but I would try with checking dmesg output && checking log-files in /var/log/ directory
[22:00] <EOBeav> ph, thx, I'm also finding something here http://askubuntu.com/questions/699078/unexpected-logout-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[22:01] <Capricorn> dax: virtualbox open and a lot of other programs.
[22:01] <dax> are four of them trying to use a full CPU core?
[22:01] <bekks> Capricorn: Open programs doesnt mean that all those programs are currently using all available resources.
[22:01] <dax> ^
[22:02] <Capricorn> dax: win7 under virtualbox, also with mulple cores
[22:03] <Capricorn> okay, how will i be able to test my system with all the cores???
[22:03] <bekks> Capricorn: What is your actual concern behind all that?
[22:04] <Capricorn> my system was show, so i went checking. found that i had just 1 core running most of the time
[22:04] <AlexPortable> how do i preseed?
[22:05] <bekks> Capricorn: Then you dont have a system load which requires all cores currently.
[22:05] <bekks> Capricorn: Which is a good sign, actually.
[22:05] <Kekko> another question: How would i setup a fastdl for a source server, cant see to find anything on google...
[22:06]  * EOBeav tries to not get booted again
[22:06] <Kekko> anyone got experience?
[22:07] <dax> Capricorn: run four copies of "yes > /dev/null" in terminals
[22:07] <Capricorn> How can i test IF all the cores will run??
[22:07] <Capricorn> ok
[22:07] <bekks> Capricorn: All cores will run because all cores are usable.
[22:07] <dax> Capricorn: ctrl-c to quit them when you get bored of making your cpu warm
[22:09] <ikonia> Kekko: what's a fastdl ?
[22:10] <gotlou> hi
[22:10] <gotlou> how is everyone
[22:10] <gotlou> clear
[22:10] <gotlou> oh wait that's a terminal command
[22:10] <gotlou> sorry everyone
[22:11] <gotlou> i am here to deliver a message
[22:11] <ikonia> we don't want it
[22:11] <ikonia> it's an ubuntu support channel only
[22:11] <gotlou> oh sorry
[22:11] <ikonia> please do not pass on messages
[22:11] <EOBeav> Ok, that was weird
[22:11] <Capricorn> patrick@silencio:~$ ps aux | grep yes | wc -l
[22:11] <Capricorn> 36
[22:12] <Capricorn> still just one CPU running
[22:12] <ikonia> Capricorn: show me the ouptut of uname -a please
[22:12] <dax> did you do `yes` or `yes > /dev/null`
[22:12] <dax> because there's a reason i said the latter
[22:12] <Capricorn> Linux silencio 4.2.0-34-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 10 22:13:01 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:12] <ikonia> yes will just hang, yes > /dev/null will keep "working" yes into nothing
[22:13] <Capricorn> did:   yes > /dev/null &
[22:13] <Capricorn> multiple times
[22:14] <ikonia> Capricorn: how are you monitoring the cores ?
[22:14] <Capricorn> using HTOP i see my 4 cores
[22:15] <ZELIG> HOLA
[22:15] <dax> pastebin the contents of /proc/cpuinfo
[22:16] <ikonia> !info stress
[22:16] <ikonia> may want to use stress to really put some load on
[22:17] <dax> meh. if it's not getting load from what they did so far something else is probably going on
[22:17] <ikonia> I was just wondering if it wasn't actually creating enough load to invoke smp
[22:17] <ikonia> interested in seeing the pastebin
[22:18] <AlexPortable> how do i preseed?
[22:19] <ikonia> in what respect ?
[22:20] <Capricorn> System has now load average of 42.95  36.98  21.29
[22:20] <ikonia> thats working for sure
[22:20] <Capricorn> But still JUST one CORE is running
[22:20] <ikonia> Capricorn: lets check something else, can you run "top" press "1" to show cpu core split
[22:20] <ikonia> does top show the same as htop
[22:21]  * dax waits for pastebin
[22:21] <ikonia> that would be interesting to see
[22:21] <Capricorn> Tasks: 283 total,  40 running, 243 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[22:21] <Capricorn> %Cpu0  : 90,7 us,  9,3 sy,  0,0 ni,  0,0 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
[22:21] <Capricorn> %Cpu1  :  0,0 us,  0,0 sy,  0,0 ni, 99,0 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  1,0 si,  0,0 st
[22:21] <Capricorn> %Cpu2  :  0,0 us,  0,0 sy,  0,0 ni,100,0 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
[22:21] <Capricorn> %Cpu3  :  0,0 us,  0,0 sy,  0,0 ni,100,0 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
[22:23] <Capricorn> top - 23:22:55 up 1 day, 11:56,  7 users,  load average: 43,12, 39,85, 25,15
[22:23] <ikonia> lets see the pastein containing /proc/cpuinfo please
[22:25] <Capricorn> processor	: 0
[22:25] <Capricorn> vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
[22:25] <Capricorn> cpu family	: 6
[22:25] <Capricorn> model		: 94
[22:25] <Capricorn> model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600 CPU @ 3.30GHz
[22:25] <Capricorn> stepping	: 3
[22:25] <ikonia> no
[22:25] <ikonia> a pastebin please
[22:25] <ikonia> ughh
[22:26] <gak> o,o
[22:29] <Capricorn> ikonia: did have seens the info you wanted?
[22:29] <ikonia> no
[22:30] <Capricorn> i had posted the /proc/cpuinfo info
[22:30] <krytarik> !pastebin
[22:30] <ikonia> you didn't use a pastebin and got kicked off the network for flooding
[22:30] <Capricorn> ok
[22:31] <xub> hi!
[22:31] <mallard> hi
[22:31] <Capricorn> how do i use pastbin?
[22:31] <ikonia> look at the link krytarik posted via ubottu
[22:32] <Capricorn> thanks .. sorry for flooding :-)
[22:42] <Capricorn> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15515021/
[22:43] <ikonia> so that cpu should be very smp capable
[22:43] <ikonia> has the right flags and is legit physical
[22:44] <Capricorn> ikonia: So ... is there still something i can do about it??
[22:45] <ikonia> just walking through in my head situations why smp would not be engaged
[22:45] <dax> yeah, it's weird. I have an i5 6500 and it performs as expected :|
[22:45] <dax> different version, same architecture, so...
[22:46] <dax> and `yes` shouldn't be bottlenecking anywhere else other than CPU
[22:46] <ikonia> the only time I"ve seen this is when things like libc had been replaced with odd versions that where not smp aware
[22:46] <Capricorn> I am running on my system Ubuntu Desktop version 15.10
[22:46] <ikonia> so all the programs linked through to it could't use it
[22:48] <nickz> where to ask about telnet other than #telnet?
[22:48] <ikonia> ooho wait
[22:48] <ikonia> Capricorn: run "date"
[22:48] <Capricorn> i installed my system yesterday .. meaning a clean install
[22:48] <ikonia> Capricorn: is the date and time right
[22:48] <ikonia> that can screw the scheduler
[22:48] <Capricorn> za mrt 26 23:48:37 CET 2016
[22:49] <ikonia> I assume thats correct for you ?
[22:49] <AlexPortable> how do i preseed?
[22:49] <ikonia> AlexPortable: what do you mean ?
[22:49] <AlexPortable> supply file to ubuntu so it will use that instead of asking me questions for install
[22:49] <Capricorn> yes ... i am from Holland
[22:49] <ikonia> AlexPortable: same as the debian preseed you've got
[22:49] <ikonia> you just need a response file
[22:49] <Capricorn> That will be the right time
[22:50] <AlexPortable> yes but how do i start it?
[22:50] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/armhf/apbs02.html
[22:50] <ikonia> oops
[22:50] <ikonia> sorry
[22:50] <ikonia> wrong one
[22:51] <ikonia> oh that will work
[22:51] <ikonia> not the one I was looking for, but it should work
[22:52] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html
[22:52] <ikonia> thats the one I wanted
[22:54] <Capricorn> Is there already anything i can do to change? to make my system use all the 4 cores?
[22:54] <ikonia> Capricorn: understanding why it's not is key first
[22:55] <CrowX--> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop which has this GPU: Intel HD Graphics 520
[22:55] <CrowX--> should I additionally install some drivers for the gpu?
[22:55] <ikonia> nope
[22:55] <Capricorn> Thats true
[22:55] <CrowX--> like xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:56] <ikonia> nope
[22:56] <CrowX--> cause when I scroll in Chrome, it's a bit slow
[22:56] <recon_lap3> CrowX--: in setting hardware -> additional drivers it should list any other drivers you might be able to use
[22:56] <CrowX--> recon_lap3, if it doesn't list anything there, it means it has all it needs. right?
[22:57] <ikonia> Capricorn: everything thats running through my mind would only impact a non-official ubuntu release or package update
[22:57] <john38> Hi i need a software than can full page print and not leave any white borders on page?????
[22:57] <Guest86973> Hallo :D
[22:58] <Bashing-om> recon_lap3: Intel; Intel provides, there are no other proprietary drivers for Intel graphics without going OEM ( testing ) .
[22:58] <fly_> hi, sorry for this silly question, but is there a *simple* way to share a windows folder within ubuntu ?
[22:58] <Capricorn> Can it be a BUG within Ubuntu Desktop 15.10?
[22:58] <ikonia> Capricorn: very doubtful
[22:58] <ikonia> more likley something in your bios that we don't understand at this point
[22:58] <john38> Hi i need a software than can full page print and not leave any white borders on page?????
[22:59] <Capricorn> Or shall it be more into my hardware
[22:59] <Capricorn> software is just a new install
[22:59] <Capricorn> ok
[23:00] <recon_lap3> CrowX--: not that I know of. dont mean there isn't though.
[23:00] <Capricorn> I will hunt my BIOS for some CPU related settings
[23:01] <ikonia> I'm doing a little research and having a think
[23:01] <AlexPortable> ikonia: "but only if you have network access, and set preseed/url appropriately", yes but how do I add this
[23:01] <ikonia> AlexPortable: add what ?
[23:01] <AlexPortable> i mean where do i write it
[23:02] <ikonia> boot arguments
[23:02] <AlexPortable> preseed/url=http://<IP_ADDRESS>/preseed.cfg ?
[23:02] <recon_lap3> CrowX--: that graphics card is a bit naff though http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+HD+520&id=3255
[23:02] <ikonia> AlexPortable: that looks right
[23:03] <ikonia> but you can't use <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:03] <ikonia> as that is the box your booting - so it's not going to contain the file as the box isn't built yet
[23:04] <Capricorn> my motherboard = MSI B150M PRO-VDH S1151, 4xDDR4, mATX
[23:04] <AlexPortable> yeah example id
[23:04] <ikonia> Capricorn: it should be fine - pretty much any modern board will support it, but I'm wondering if there is either a bug in your bios for linux, or if a setting is switched off by mistake
[23:04] <ikonia> on paper your machine can see all 4 cores, so is aware of them, it's just not sharing
[23:05] <ikonia> the other option is the linux scheduler is miss-configured
[23:05] <ikonia> but I don't see how that could happen
[23:05] <dax> (and it wouldn't be by default, so you'd probably know if you'd been messing with that)
[23:05] <recon_lap3> CrowX--: just checked mine, and it's worse, so must be something going on. cant say I've ever noticed problems scrolling stuff.
[23:05] <dax> ikonia: could always try mainline kernel package. kinda grabbing at straws though.
[23:06] <ikonia> dax: I agree it's a bit random, but the facts don't add up
[23:06] <john38> Hi i need a software than can full page print and not leave any white borders on page?????
[23:06] <dax> do you have a printer that can do that?
[23:08] <dax> Capricorn: ever had any other OSes on this system? if so, same behavior?
[23:09] <vincenzino> hi
[23:10] <Capricorn> dax: No just ... direct Linux. Installed ubuntu directly when i was home yesterday
[23:11] <ikonia> %101 sure it's an official ubuntu build, not something like mint, or elementary stuff like that
[23:12] <Capricorn> Downloaded version 15.10 from: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[23:13] <binary01> hi ikonia, i am still waiting for failsafex to boot. does it usually take this long?
[23:13] <ikonia> can't get clearer than that
[23:13] <Capricorn> So the main Ubuntu
[23:13] <ikonia> binary01: I told you - I am not helping you / taking this forward with you after you wasted my time earlier
[23:15] <ikonia> Capricorn: can you "grep Processor" in the syslog and put the output in a pastebin please
[23:16] <ikonia> I've just read about a situation that you maybe hitting
[23:16] <binary01> hi all, i am getting a black screen when booting. does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:16] <ikonia> something I"ve not seen in a long long time, but it's still plauseable
[23:16] <ikonia> binary01: tell people the full info if you want them to help
[23:16] <ikonia> you're giving them the wrong details - and you'll waste their time too
[23:17] <binary01> thanks for the tip
[23:17] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | binary01
[23:18] <ikonia> Bashing-om: ho ho, it's far beyond that
[23:18] <Capricorn> ikonia: Did you mean: "cat /var/log/syslog | grep Processor"
[23:18] <ikonia> Bashing-om: what he's not telling you is the file system is screwed, and in the middle of an fsck interupted it and tried to mangle a read only file system
[23:18] <ikonia> Capricorn: that will work
[23:18] <binary01> bashing-om: thanks. ill check it out
[23:18] <Capricorn> This will results is empty
[23:19] <Bashing-om> ikonia: :( .. Was a thought ^^ to see if maybe install proprietary driver .
[23:19] <ikonia> Capricorn: do the same for grep -i cpu
[23:19] <Capricorn> meaning no line in syslog with "Processor"
[23:19] <ikonia> Capricorn: corry
[23:19] <ikonia> correct
[23:21] <Capricorn> just one line: "Mar 26 16:49:03 silencio kernel: [62173.865685] SUPR0GipMap: fGetGipCpu=0x3"
[23:21] <Capricorn> Best <ikonia> <dax> ... i think the problem is to big for now ... So i went to my bed now. Hope to see you soon
[23:21] <ikonia> Capricorn: Hmmm not %100 sure of the impact of that line, but it's not what I was looking for, so it doesn't matter
[23:21] <binary01> ikonia: how do you mangle a read-only file system?
[23:22] <ikonia> Capricorn: it's certainly an interesting one
[23:22] <ikonia> binary01: by interupting file system modifications during journal replay,
[23:23] <binary01> if its read-only then there isnt any modifications happening
[23:23] <ikonia> binary01: it's read only to you - not the system
[23:23] <Capricorn> Capricorn: if you have a brainwave .. drop me a mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:23] <binary01> anyway thats not exactly what happened
[23:24] <ikonia> thats exactly what happened
[23:24] <rolphy> holaa
[23:24] <ikonia> Capricorn: drop back in when you wake up
[23:24] <ikonia> be interesting to look at this more
[23:25] <Capricorn> ikonia: Where do you live? timezone wise?
[23:25] <binary01> i did not interrupt system modifications during journal replay
[23:25] <ikonia> binary01: you did
[23:25] <AlexPortable> Why do i get kernel panic when i do preseed?
[23:25] <Capricorn> I have GMT +1
[23:25] <ikonia> Capricorn: GMT
[23:25] <ikonia> AlexPortable: the error message will give you a clue
[23:26] <AlexPortable> kernel offset 0x0 from 0xffffffffff8100000 (relocation range: 0xffffff80000-0xfffffbfff)
[23:26] <ikonia> you need the info before that
[23:26] <AlexPortable> end kernel panic not syncing: FS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[23:26] <ikonia> AlexPortable: there you go - it can't mount the disk
[23:26] <AlexPortable> mount what disk
[23:26] <pam> I've got a large PDF file I want to split into smaller chunks...how can I split a huge pdf...into 5 smaller pdfs?
[23:27] <ikonia> AlexPortable: the one it's trying to boot
[23:27] <AlexPortable> why not
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> pam  pdf-mod, pdf-shuffler
[23:27] <ikonia> AlexPortable: again  you'll need to work that out
[23:27] <recon_lap3> pam : you could do 5 print to PDF file and break it up that way
[23:28] <binary01> ikonia: am i just wasting my time trying to boot failsafex at this point?
[23:28] <ikonia> I suspect it can't process your preseed file so it's trying to mount the wrong thing, thats just a guess based on a common guess
[23:28] <ikonia> binary01: not interested
[23:28] <ikonia> binary01: up to you
[23:28] <ikonia> you blew it with me wasting my time, ignoring me and making things worse
[23:29] <AlexPortable> ikonia: i get it when i load the preseed file
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> !info pdf-shuffler | pam
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> !info pdfshuffler | pam
[23:29] <binary01> i didnt ignore you. im not wasting your time. youre too sensitive
[23:29] <ikonia> binary01: you did exactly what I told you not to do
[23:29] <ikonia> binary01: thats ignoring me - thats wasting my time by making things worse
[23:29] <ikonia> after I'd gone through detail and effort with you
[23:31] <binary01> you didnt tell me not to do anything. it was not my intention to waste your time. thats all i want to say. thanks
[23:31] <stacy-> problem fixed ...did not need a reinstall of the whole ubuntu desktop ...
[23:31] <ikonia> binary01: I told you to let that complete - it will take time
[23:31] <ikonia> you ignored me, cancled it half way through and tried to reconfigure your machine
[23:31] <ikonia> that is ignoring me and wasting my time
[23:33] <pam> monkeydust: how can I use pdfshuffler to break it into 5 separate pdfs?
[23:34] <thetrino> hello
[23:34] <stacy-> ikonia..you are not always right
[23:34] <ikonia> stacy-: ?
[23:39] <pam> got it thanks :D
[23:43] <fearnothing> what's the syntax for supplying the content of a file as the data portion for curl XPUT?
[23:47] <SchrodingersScat> fearnothing: does -T work? check the manual
[23:49] <douglas_quail> SchrodingersScat, you like RAW?
[23:49] <SchrodingersScat> I'm sure I don't know what that is.
[23:49] <douglas_quail> a good book by RAW
[23:50] <douglas_quail> robert anton wilson
[23:51] <douglas_quail> SchrodingersScat, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat_Trilogy
[23:54] <antonispgs> i am reading this right now
[23:54] <antonispgs> Ubuntu 16.04 is all about making this potentially final release of Ubuntu as we know it as rock solid as possible.
[23:54] <antonispgs> potentially final as we know it? why?
[23:54] <ssarah> "ubuntu as we know it"
[23:55] <antonispgs> yes exactly
[23:55] <antonispgs> what does that mean? are there changes in the horizon?
[23:55] <ssarah> maybe related to the few things in linux core that are being discontinued/changed, maybe related to plans to change the ui, maybe related to the fact that the debian creator died
[23:56] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | antonispgs ; ssarah
[23:57] <ssarah> oh, i was just answering antonispgs. thanx SchrodingersScat
[23:58] <antonispgs> ok so we don't really know what they are planning we are just assuming
[23:59] <gde33> The migration from xp to the ubuntu is looking very nice but it sure required a lot of google searches.


[07:24] <davidcalle> Good morning
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <dpm> morning all
[07:57] <dpm> oh, just noticed an e-mail from Alan Bell on the phone mailing list saying he could sync his desktop music with the phone using Banshee
[07:57] <dpm> I might just try that!
[12:26] <popey> hm, kdenlive is broken in wily
[13:13] <dholbach> dpm, can you take a look at the t-shirt design email I sent earlier?
[13:14] <dholbach> dpm, Sturmflut and Svij already responded - with your input I'd send it off to design and they can put together everything for printing
[13:23] <dpm> dholbach, ok
[13:31] <dholbach> dpm, thanks!
[14:32] <popey> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3o3sa2/ubuntu_music_app_adaptive_layout_preliminary_work/
[14:32] <popey> upboat!
[14:33] <dholbach> I'll update ubuntuonair for our uos hangout.
[14:40] <dholbach> https://ubuntuonair.com/ updated
[14:44] <dholbach> I pointed it to this channel
[14:58] <dpm> popey, nice!
[15:03] <dholbach> all right.... just about to start
[15:04] <dpm> https://trello.com/b/XgQDQtu0/uos-15-11
[15:04] <dholbach> http://ubuntuonair.com
[15:04] <dholbach> https://trello.com/b/XgQDQtu0/uos-15-11
[15:04] <dholbach> ah, perfect :)
[15:06] <davidcalle> I'm having some trouble to join, I'll be played by Popey's cat for the next five min... /me relocates to a wired network
[15:22] <argo_> 15.11 = november 2015?
[15:22] <argo_> somone has mechanical keyboarg
[15:23] <dholbach> argo_, yep, I was just thinking of a short enough title for it :)
[15:24] <argo_> :D
[15:24] <popey> dpm is the loud typer :)
[15:24] <argo_> UOS 15.11 (shorter)
[15:24]  * dpm types LO very loudly
[15:24] <dpm> LOL
[15:25] <dholbach> then again I thought it'd be good if people who don't know what UOS is would get what we're talking about :)
[15:25] <argo_> right :P
[15:26] <argo_> wha???
[15:26] <argo_> is fairphone adopting ubuntu?
[15:27] <argo_> me
[15:27] <argo_> :))
[15:27] <argo_> :o(
[15:27] <argo_> ;o)
[15:28] <argo_> it's pretty quiet in here
[15:30] <argo_> when is mark's keynote?
[15:31] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/tracks
[15:32] <mhall119> argo_: it usually depends on mark's availability
[15:32] <dholbach> argo_, sessions are not scheduled yet
[15:33] <argo_> dholbach: mhall119 oh, i see, thanks!
[15:37] <dholbach> popey, we're looking at https://trello.com/b/XgQDQtu0/uos-15-11
[15:37] <popey> thanks
[15:37] <popey> am on it
[15:37] <dholbach> :)
[15:38] <popey> "Hangouts can't detect a microphone connected to your computer. Without a microphone, other participants won't be able to hear you."
[15:38] <popey> stupid stupid
[15:38] <ahayzen> haha
[15:38]  * dholbach hugs popey
[15:39] <dholbach> anything we've forgotten to talk about?
[15:39] <dholbach> any questions from those of you who are watching right now?
[15:39] <ahayzen> popey, have you tried forcing an unexpected reboot ?
[15:40] <popey> haha
[15:42] <popey> My work here is done.
[15:43] <argo_> lol what work!
[15:43] <ahayzen> thanks guys :-)
[15:43] <argo_> bye ahayzen
[15:59] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day!
[15:59] <dholbach> have a great weekend!
[15:59] <davidcalle> Same dholbach!
[16:00] <popey> o/
[16:01] <dholbach> thanks guys :)
[16:02] <mhall119> popey: that video of the music app is *amazing*
[16:02] <ahayzen> :-)
[16:02] <popey> Thanks.
[16:03] <ahayzen> mhall119, still lots of bugs :-) but its getting closer
[16:05] <mhall119> ahayzen: I'm blown away, you guys are fantastic
[16:05] <ahayzen> heh thanks
[16:05] <ahayzen> :-)
[16:10] <popey> btw if anyone complains about adverts on that video - I get zero revenue, it goes to the guy who made the song.
[16:15] <mhall119> that's a good arrangement, I was wondering where you got the music from
[16:25] <davidcalle> mhall119, +1 on the amazingness, this IS a convergent app in all its aspects, love it
[16:38] <popey> mhall119: i heard it on another podcast, http://systemau.net.au/ which is funny and worth a listen
[16:39] <popey> i thought "I must use that track sometime" and then this opportunity came up :)