[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> they updated, now it works, not sure if it needed a patch or what?
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> it is fixed
[12:33] <gnomefreak> its fixed than fix released == correct status
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> good, i thought it was, just making sure.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> brb while this is transfering if needed ill be back in like 3 minutes
[12:37] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[12:41] <gnomefreak> anytime
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ok guys anyone hav e aproblem with mondays meeting time?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> i will check email when i get in ubuntu but im doubting i have heard back
[12:57] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: 20UTC?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> sure works for me
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i have no problem
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i dont remember the times i listed off hand
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: 20 UTC?
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82060 in firefox (main) "A web page Firefox can't print." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82060
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82063 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.k15d0H.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82063
[05:49] <Admiral_Chicago> sent an email out to the team, check it please.
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> night
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #47173 in firefox (main) "Color of selected text not consistent with rest of the applications" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47173
[07:51] <AlexLatchford> yeah 20UTC on the 5th is good
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: it's the 5th, thought it was tomorrow
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: might want to put that in the email i sent
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> err reply to it
[07:52] <AlexLatchford> lol, you put today?
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> a bit tired and not sleepy
[07:53] <AlexLatchford> lol ok
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> going to try again
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82075 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Pound sign lost when sending email in ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82075
[08:54] <AlexLatchford> hehe
[09:05] <AlexLatchford> Meh, cleaned up a few pages on the wiki, still needs a lot of work though
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63265 in firefox (main) "Firefox fails to open in Ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63265
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82106 in firefox (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82106
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Im gonna try to get this on frdige so we can use #ubuntu-meeting for the meeting that way seb and daniel and anyone else are there. (since they are there 100% of time when they are on line and that way its more of an open meeting and see if people dont get intrested and want to join :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> fridge even
[12:49] <gnomefreak> any objections to that?
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82116 in firefox (main) "firefox close without message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82116
[02:06] <Admiral_Chicago> i've got no objections to fridge
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ok i want meetings in -meetings because people hang there and they get intrested in differetn meetings (might help get people on team
[02:12] <gnomefreak> plus daniel and seb and afflaw can give thier input
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> we can do that
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82122 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash during java applet load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82122
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: do you use rsync?
[02:54] <jwendell> Ubugtu here, cool
[03:04] <crimsun> really? I love it.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> its not commenting to the damn servers im getting IO errors
[03:05] <gnomefreak> i guess i try a differnt mirror
[03:06] <crimsun> meaning "connecting"?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> failed to connect to mirrors.uol.com.br
[03:06] <crimsun> ah, right.
[03:06] <gnomefreak> error: error in socket IO (code 10)
[03:08] <gnomefreak> its doing it on any mirror i seem to try :(
[03:09] <gnomefreak> gonna try thier main mirror
[03:17] <gnomefreak> hm it seems the mirrors i was trying are messed up in some way. the uk mirror seems to work (atleast its downloading files
[03:21] <jwendell> Ubugtu here, cool
[05:05] <AlexLatchford> Howdy guys
[05:06] <AlexLatchford> so are we changing the venue of the meeting?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> yes so more people can see it and stuff. i talked to daniel h. and i will be posting it on fridge-devel list and so on. he should be ablet o make it.
[05:21] <AlexLatchford> aha ok
[05:22] <gnomefreak> good way to build the team and it helps to have open meetings you never know what good people you will find :)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> does firefox limit downloads by chance
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78719 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) ""Unread: -1" in thunderbird" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78719
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: no what is rsync?
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> also, what do you mean "limits downloads"
[07:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82157 in firefox (main) "Firefox often crash when it's rendering a new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82157
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #45008 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45008
[08:08] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). and i downloaded 2 isos lastnight & this morning i went to download the 3rd and firefox gav eme a popup that i reached my limit but i restarted firefox and it works (also changed mirrors so maybe the mirror is restricted
[08:14] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: rsync is a great way to fix md5sum mismatches for isos :)
[08:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82166 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crash then listen imap quarantaine server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82166
[08:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82168 in firefox (main) "autoscroll shows the "resize up" cursor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82168
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see, well i don't work too much with iso's so I never had a problem
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> only when I download Linux CDs
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82172 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "crash when (perhaps) moving large folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82172
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: i think it can be used for anything. i use it for ISOs but fairly sure it can be used for anything.
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i'll check it out
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> right now, I'm a bit busy fixing this computer
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> fixing it to use Kubuntu that is
[09:33] <gnomefreak> been working on getting suse up and running here :(
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> This poor girl broke her windows build, but it was broken to begin with
[09:36] <gnomefreak> windows is always broken
[09:54] <ausimage> Hello I think we may have conflict with meetings on the February 5th
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ausimage: no offense but that is the time we core members can meet
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> ausimage: what is the conflict?
[09:55] <ausimage> We made note in UWN 29 that the Scribes Team was meeting in #ubunutu-meeting at the same time
[09:55] <gnomefreak> no conflict of meetings if it was i couldnt have gotten the spot
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ausimage: needs to be on fridge
[09:56] <gnomefreak> ausimage: thats how you save spots for meetings
[09:56] <ausimage> I understand but I did not understand how to get it on the fridge
[09:56] <ausimage> It was not obvious how to get it on the fridge
[09:57] <gnomefreak> ausimage: how long of a meeting?
[09:58] <ausimage> Not sure lets say a half-hour at most... If it is longer we will move to a different channel....
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> ausimage: give us a minute
[09:58] <ausimage> We are trying to establish our team as well... thanks
[09:59] <gnomefreak> ausimage: can you give me ten minutes or so i have 2 other problems to work out atm
[09:59] <ausimage> sure PM me when you have made a decision....
[10:00] <gnomefreak> like ill remember :(
[10:00] <gnomefreak> damnit
[10:33] <gnomefreak> whos here atm?
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: i'm not :)
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> alex and I are, you are, Kees is here, as in Daniel
[10:56] <gnomefreak> it looks like we have the meeting. they have 2 people in htier team
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago>  /names
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: here as in not away
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well we better have it then
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: and all you need is /n
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> really? didn't know that. nixternal told me /names
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> well i'm here, anything you needed gnomefreak
[11:06] <gnomefreak> nothing i think i got them to move it
[11:07] <gnomefreak> we will be keeping our time but im not gonna resnd 100 emails because 2 people want to look official
[11:08] <gnomefreak> sorry was working things out
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #74152 in firefox (main) "Crash during change which player should be used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/74152
[11:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82191 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82191


[07:43] <Fantu> hi, I saw that ubuntu cinnamon version is still 3.6.7-4, there is a 3.6.7-5 version uploaded 2 days ago in sid that contain important fix, need manual operation to sync it to bionic?
[08:21] <Unit193> Yes, since autosync is off, it does.
[09:32] <Fantu> thanks for the reply Unit193
[09:33] <Fantu> is there someone that can sync cinnamon 3.6.7-5 from debian to bionic please?


[09:18] <Kvark> reka: one last question, recompile kernel with the drivers or go for the x server version of the drivers?
[09:18] <Seveas> nuttychicken, then use that script I sent you :)
[09:18] <skel_> cause mine has stopped working
[09:18] <gavin> how do you talk just to me?
[09:18] <TPC> I haven't tried it, but from what I've heard captive ntfs enables safe writing to ntfs
[09:18] <Seveas> gavin, i don't , i talk to the channel :)
[09:18] <mig`> and i'm still leaving 100GB on this drive, i'm only copying the smaller directories, the 2 big directories i'm leaving are for when i get my 300GB hdd next week
[09:18] <nuttychicken> thanks seveas
[09:18] <gavin> oh ok
[09:18] <mig`> then i'm going to love this livecd even more ;)
[09:18] <gavin> how do i edit that config file
[09:18] <reka> Kvark: eek.  i defer to nalioth or Seveas for that question. :-/
[09:18] <Seveas> TPC, it does, but there are no packages for it and installing from source is troublesome
[09:18] <TPC> Seveas, hmm
[09:19] <mig`> hmm, 'safe writing' in ntfs ?
[09:19] <reka> Kvark: does it have a readme or install file?
[09:19] <mig`> what does 'safe' mean ?
[09:19] <Seveas> gavin, which one..?
[09:19] <TPC> that it won't break anything
[09:19] <mig`> that was quick in copying
[09:19] <gavin> for firefox
[09:19] <mig`> now let me umount this drive
[09:19] <Raskall> gaaaaawd, I've missed ubuntu. Reinstalled fedora on a smaller partition and installed ubuntu for home use today..
[09:19] <Kvark> reka, yeah, there it doesn't say which is best between the kernel and x server versions
[09:19] <Seveas> gavin, it's not a config file
[09:19] <Seveas> just open firefox
[09:19] <Raskall> Ubuntu is beautiful on a Dell latitude D810.
[09:19] <reka> Kvark: well, do you know how to do either?
[09:19] <Seveas> and go to the page about:config
[09:19] <nuttychicken> thanks for all the help
[09:19] <mig`> heh, i'm running the livecd on my ASUS M3Np
[09:19] <mig`> looks GREAT
[09:19] <mig`> performs good as well
[09:20] <Seveas> search for vendorSub and change it
[09:20] <Kvark> reka: nope, just know how to use apt-get
[09:20] <james21> Hi guys, totally new to linux user here, trying to install Ubuntu, linux-386, linux-image-386, linux-image-2.6.10-5-386........ ?
[09:20] <gavin> can you tell me how to update it then?
[09:20] <mig`> that it won't break anything?... hmmm
[09:20] <Kvark> reka: and alien
[09:20] <Seveas> james21, linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd)
[09:20] <reka> ahem, me too. :)
[09:20] <mig`> what's missing though?
[09:20] <reka> Kvark: i'd go with the x server one.  sounds easier to remove...i think
[09:20] <Seveas> gavin, just edit it, it's instant update :)
[09:20] <mig`> let me read up on it
[09:20] <gavin> edit what
[09:20] <james21> Ok Seveas but which one out of those 3?
[09:20] <nalioth> Seveas: you need to feed that to the python (ff fooolery)
[09:21] <james21> They all 386, lol.
[09:21] <Seveas> james21, linux-386 if you want 386
[09:21] <runedude_> eh, you guys know a graphical SCP Client for ubuntu Hoary?
[09:21] <chonny69> when i do the apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, and i see the terminal message getting a new kernel, does that mean it's compiling it?
[09:21] <james21> Cool
[09:21] <james21> Ok then, thanks.
[09:21] <Seveas> nalioth, I did, but gavin did not understand the FAQ entry :)
[09:21] <chonny69> i just don't know when i should compile
[09:21] <Seveas> james21, that will infact install the others too (it's a chain of metapackages)
[09:21] <HappyFool> runedude_: i think nautilus might be able to do that
[09:22] <nalioth> Seveas: ah, F0C7
[09:22] <runedude_> HappyFool, k, ty
[09:22] <Seveas> chonny69, no, you never compile packages you get with apt-get
[09:22] <runedude_> chonny69,  you shouldnt need to compile the kernel
[09:22] <Seveas> nalioth, F0C7..?
[09:22] <x[x] > woop! for easy install of unbuntu
[09:22] <james21> cool
[09:22] <Kvark> reka, thanks for talking it through with me
[09:22] <x[x] > guys got a Question about the hardrive for ubuntu
[09:22] <HappyFool> runedude_: Places -> Connect to server, choose 'Service type' ssh
[09:22] <chonny69> oooh... thanks, very helpful
[09:22] <x[x] > where do u find out the sixe?
[09:22] <x[x] > size*?
[09:22] <james21> "Retrieving and installing"
[09:22] <runedude_> ok, thanks
[09:22] <nalioth> Seveas: i've been PM'g you all morning (locally) long
[09:22] <reka> Kvark: sorry i'm not more knowledgeable :)
[09:22] <Seveas> nalioth, ahhh sorry, I was on PM ignore...
[09:22] <mig`> one of the things i've always loved about linux
[09:23] <Seveas> (was AFK most of the time)
[09:23] <mig`> is the speed of what it does, specially when done from terminal
[09:23] <skel_> uhh
[09:23] <TPC> what do I need to install to make sftp:// work in gnomes file manager?
[09:23] <skel_> what some good reposiutories
[09:23] <skel_> got a url for them
[09:23] <Seveas> TPC, nothing...
[09:23] <mig`> on linux i would reach 700KB/s uploads, where in windows I wouldn't get past 400KB/s
[09:23] <TPC> Seveas, but it doesn't work
[09:23] <skel_> tahst i can add to my sources list?
[09:23] <nalioth> Seveas: so are the PMs there or did they all go to /dev/null?
[09:23] <Seveas> TPC, what's the error
[09:23] <Seveas> nalioth, /dev/null i'm afraid
[09:23] <nalioths_dog> skel_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:24] <TPC> Seveas, I don't remember, it was a few hours ago that I tried it. let me try again
[09:24] <nalioth> Seveas: ya still on pm-ignore?
[09:24] <Seveas> nalioth, nope
[09:24] <skel_> nalioths_dog,  paste that were?
[09:24] <skel_> in my sources list?
[09:24] <TPC> Seveas, hm.. it worked now
[09:24] <TPC> strange
[09:24] <Seveas> TPC, lol :)
[09:24] <Seveas> hickup in the internet ;)
[09:24] <Kvark> euh, i got source code and a .diff patch, what should I do with the diff thingy?
[09:24] <nuttychicken> this may sound stupid but what is a good mp3 player for linux?
[09:24] <nalioths_dog> skel_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:25] <mig`> nuttychicken, for console? mpg123 is good
[09:25] <mig`> for gui, many people prefer xmms
[09:25] <Seveas> nuttychicken, beep-media-player
[09:25] <reka> or beep-media-player
[09:25] <nuttychicken> xmms won't play my mp3s
[09:25] <Seveas> b-m-p is xmms but better :)
[09:25] <skel_> thank u very much nalioths_dog
[09:25] <Seveas> nuttychicken: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[09:25] <reka> nuttychicken: change the output plugin to esound
[09:25] <Kvark> xine, or totem-xine (not totem witout xine) are other options for gui
[09:26] <chonny69> nuttychicken
[09:26] <reka> damnit
[09:26] <chonny69> i had the same problem
[09:26] <TPC> nuttychicken, xmms plays mp3s, you need a codec
[09:26] <chonny69> it could be an alsa or els thing too
[09:26] <Kvark> anyone know how to use a .diff file?
[09:26] <reka> TPC: it comes with it's own
[09:26] <TPC> oh
[09:26] <TPC> nuttychicken, ignore what I said then :)
[09:26] <runedude_> nuttychicken,  yes, i use xmms for mp3s, it will play mp3s.. make sure you have the correct codec
[09:27] <mig`> hmm
[09:27] <nuttychicken> i like xmms , but hwere can i get the codec?
[09:27] <reka> nuttychicken: : it comes with it's own
[09:27] <mig`> i wonder if i can install ubuntu on a usb hdd
[09:27] <Seveas> nuttychicken: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[09:27] <mig`> and run it from the usb hdd
[09:27] <mig`> what do you guys think?
[09:27] <Seveas> you need no codecs
[09:27] <Seveas> mig`, that's possible
[09:27] <mig`> because i don't have space to put another physical drive in the machine, and windows is where i make money
[09:27] <nuttychicken> ok output plugin to esound....thanks
[09:28] <Kvark> to get codecs: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:28] <aeolist> you like xmms?
[09:28] <aeolist> xmmm
[09:28] <reka> Kvark: those are video codecs iirc
[09:28] <Raskall> is there a known problem about flashplayer in ubuntu? text does not show in flash thingys on any of the ubuntu-machines I have installed it on.
[09:28] <TPC> mig`, that would work and be really cool because you can use your install with multiple computers
[09:28] <nuttychicken> yea i'm a transfering windows user
[09:28] <Kvark> oh, not both? :(
[09:28] <dao> wowie... artwiz is a bitch on this distro :S
[09:28] <mig`> hmm ok, then i think i will give it a try (installing on a usb2 hdd)
[09:28] <TPC> mig`, but only if your bios supports it
[09:28] <TPC> mig`, booting from usb I mean
[09:28] <mig`> tpc - yeah, thats another thing
[09:28] <reka> Kvark: actually, i'm not certain now. :)
[09:28] <Seveas> nuttychicken, good luck in the healing process, it may be rough at times, but you'll love it ;))
[09:28] <chonny69> nuttychicken: try messing around with the multimedia systems selector on sound output
[09:28] <mig`> i am thinking of install it on this mobile 60gb hdd i have
[09:29] <mig`> (its actually where i'm copying the files to now)
[09:29] <mig`> the one i just formatted to fat32
[09:29] <chonny69> i use alsa, and that made xmms work for me, but i can't share sound with another app
[09:29] <Seveas> TPC, you can still install grub on the hard drive and Ubuntu on the USB one iirc
[09:29] <jtan325> in ubuntu, how do you manage "file associations"? i.e. i want .bittorrent files to open with azureus by default
[09:29] <Seveas> so you don't need to boot from USB
[09:29] <nuttychicken> i'm liking it alot more than windows no more bluescreen...*cringe*
[09:29] <x[x] > guys where do i find the hard drive size in ubuntu .. i just installed it like an hr ago and when i go to what i THINK is the system folder to check the hard drive size it says "..."
[09:29] <mig`> hmm
[09:29] <Seveas> jtan325, rightclick on a .torrent file and go to options
[09:29] <Seveas> jtan325, "Open with" tab there
[09:30] <mig`> x[x] : there is the device manager in ubuntu
[09:30] <Seveas> x[x] , df -h (in the terminal)
[09:30] <mig`> try that, it will enumerate the system devices for ya
[09:30] <jtan325> x[x] : you can click on "file system" from "computer" in "places"
[09:30] <mig`> heh, that too
[09:30] <x[x] > hmm
[09:30] <x[x] > ok
[09:30] <reka> chonny69: multiple sounds: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567
[09:30] <mig`> i tried making a live usb key about a year back
[09:31] <mig`> that failed miserably ;)
[09:31] <x[x] > yeah
[09:31] <x[x] > i did that
[09:31] <x[x] > u right click file system go to properties right?
[09:31] <x[x] > and look at size?
[09:31] <jtan325> nah, double click on filesystem
[09:31] <psycho`jkl> Hello all, I have just started up the Ubuntu AMD64 LIVE CD, and I am wondering how to set up an SSH session so a friend to connect
[09:31] <jtan325> and then at the bottom it should tell you
[09:31] <x[x] > shit
[09:32] <nalioth> psycho`jkl: your friend wants to connect to YOU?
[09:32] <nuttychicken> ok i hate to be a pain but ubuntu uses nautilus(sorry can't spell) i'm not to fond of it, anyone know of something better and how i would change it?
[09:32] <jtan325> psycho`jkl: you can do this through "connect to server" under "places"
[09:32] <x[x] > i would of thought any form of linux would of recognized the full size of the hd
[09:32] <psycho`jkl> yes, he wants to connect to my machine
[09:32] <Seveas> psycho`jkl, apt-get install openssh-server (it'll install into memory, so you'll have to do it all the time)
[09:32] <mig`> ok, well thanks for the help everyone
[09:32] <mig`> appreciate it
[09:32] <mig`> i'll be around
[09:33] <psycho`jkl> well... do you know if he can isntall an amd64 distro, with a 32 bit live cd?
[09:33] <Seveas> x[x] , just use df -h in a terminal it's the easiest option
[09:33] <x[x] > pl
[09:33] <Seveas> psycho`jkl, no
[09:33] <samy-ubuntu_part> lut
[09:33] <x[x] > this is my first time using linux dude
[09:33] <reka> nuttychicken: i'm sure you could install any file manager you want.
[09:33] <x[x] > pl* = ok
[09:33] <nalioth> nuttychicken: use kubuntu
[09:33] <Seveas> x[x] , welcome aboard :)
[09:33] <chonny69> reka:  thanks
[09:33] <x[x] > lol thanks
[09:34] <runedude_> HappyFool, No.. Nautilius didnt work to use SCP.
[09:34] <nuttychicken> any idea how i would install a biffrent file manager?? linux newbie sory
[09:34] <Seveas> runedude_, hmm, works fine here, what's the error..?
[09:34] <x[x] > i opened a terminal and typed df-h?
[09:34] <keir> anyone get quake2 to work on ubuntu?
[09:34] <jtan325> Seveas: is there no "central file association management" tool like there is in windows?
[09:34] <Seveas> nuttychicken, use the package manager (system -> admin -> synaptic)
[09:34] <runedude_> Seveas, Cannot display location 'address.....' Details: THere is no default action associated withi this location.
[09:34] <Seveas> jtan325, there is
[09:35] <psycho`jkl> do i start the ssh with sshd?
[09:35] <psycho`jkl> if so. how do i setup the password
[09:35] <gavin> how do i update firefox?
[09:35] <keir> Seveas, i discovered my problem with sata-- i had compiled in SATA to the kernel, but had the entire SCSI subsystem as a module. oops.
[09:35] <Seveas> keir, hehe :)
[09:35] <gavin> please help
[09:35] <jtan325> Seveas: then what's the tool, if you know?
[09:35] <nalioth> psycho`jkl: if you are using the livecd, you cant run a sshd
[09:35] <Seveas> gavin, i told you twice already
[09:35] <sean_> how can i remove the gnome titlebar  and border?
[09:35] <Seveas> gavin: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[09:35] <psycho`jkl> what?
[09:35] <Seveas> jtan325, i'm searching for it, hang on :)_
[09:35] <reka> Seveas: heh
[09:36] <dao> this distro is wierD! lol
[09:36] <psycho`jkl> its dumb
[09:36] <dao> anyway to get rid of graphical login?
[09:36] <nalioth> psycho`jkl: to my knowledge, openssh-server is not on the liveCDs
[09:36] <dao> i'd like command line
[09:36] <psycho`jkl> no it isnt
[09:36] <psycho`jkl> but i just apt-get
[09:36] <keir> dao: try apt-get install rcconf
[09:36] <Seveas> psycho`jkl, apt-get starts it for you
[09:36] <keir> dao, then rcconf and disable 'gdm'
[09:36] <nalioth> psycho`jkl: i don't think apt-get works on the livecd
[09:36] <dao> k
[09:36] <Seveas> nalioth, it does
[09:36] <dao> sounds good
[09:36] <Seveas> it installs into memory
[09:36] <psycho`jkl> looks like it worked
[09:36] <nalioth> Seveas: wow
[09:36] <dao> cuz i need to kill x right now to refresh some font stuff i added
[09:37] <nalioth> hope users have lots of ram
[09:37] <mebaran151> anyone have a solution
[09:37] <runedude_> What is the Gnome CD  Recorder?
[09:37] <runedude_> baker something?
[09:37] <mebaran151> for a remote filesystem
[09:37] <mpm> gnomebaker
[09:37] <runedude_> Ty.
[09:37] <mebaran151> that I can only ftp and ssh to
[09:37] <psycho`jkl> i still need a password for the ssh tho. . . so he can log in
[09:37] <mebaran151> I would like to be able to mount the directory
[09:38] <mebaran151> in like /mnt/ftp
[09:38] <Seveas> mebaran151, try LUFS
[09:38] <sean_> anyone know how to remove gnome title bars and borders?
[09:38] <mebaran151> and just directly open and save files to it
[09:38] <Seveas> or nautilus ssh:// paths
[09:38] <mebaran151> Seveas, does it need any special modules
[09:38] <Seveas> mebaran151, it's Userland so no kernel modules
[09:38] <mebaran151> how do you use it
[09:39] <Seveas> mebaran151, search google ;)
[09:39] <mebaran151> I dll'ed the utilities
[09:39] <GouramiGP> If I have a central machine on a network with various user folders that I only want the specific user to have permission to, must I create an accout for every user that has a folder ?
[09:39] <psycho`jkl> ok, i have ssh setup and working with a password on amd64 live cd
[09:39] <psycho`jkl> thanks for the help S
[09:39] <gavin> seveas, thanks
[09:39] <psycho`jkl> sevas*
[09:40] <Seveas> jtan325, I can't find it :S
[09:40] <Zyzznder> when i was installing the ubuntu it show me some error like faild to install  the grub and other thing's cvr/bar/ (or something like that)
[09:41] <Seveas> i though it was stored somewhere in gconf
[09:41] <jtan325> Seveas: oh well, this method will do
[09:41] <AnguS> hello! i have some troble with mailman, i keep getting these errors and don't understand where the problem is: /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py:175: DeprecationWarning: get_type() deprecated; use get_content_type()
[09:41] <AnguS>   ctype = part.get_type(part.get_default_type())
[09:41] <Seveas> GouramiGP, either that or use PureFTPD with virtual users
[09:41] <jtan325> Seveas: another thing though, what's the best method for writing to ntfs with as little risk as possible
[09:41] <AnguS> any ideas?
[09:41] <Seveas> AnguS, #mailman
[09:41] <Seveas> It's waaaay off topic for here :)
[09:42] <AnguS> sooorry
[09:42] <runedude_> Wow. Impressive. I am very happy that ubuntu detected my cdwriter/dvdwriter instantly. Thanks guys, keep up the good work ^^
[09:42] <AnguS> i pasted in the wrong channel hehe ioepened mailman
[09:42] <Seveas> jtan325, captive NTFS
[09:42] <GouramiGP> Seveas what type of user would I create if I only wanted file access read and write to that folder ?
[09:42] <Seveas> jtan325, I spotted packages for it once
[09:42] <jtan325> yeah, i actually used that once when i was using mandrake
[09:43] <nalioth> jtan325: use windows NT, 2000 or XP for minimal risk writing to NTFS
[09:43] <Seveas> GouramiGP, if you don't mind that it's only FTP access, i'd go with pureftpd and virtual users
[09:43] <nalioth> GouramiGP: are you back causing trouble?
[09:43] <Seveas> nalioth, that is *exactly* what captive does :D
[09:43] <jtan325> nalioth: well, when i try to play a video file on an ntfs hard drive with VLC, it for some reason wants to write to the ntfs drive
[09:43] <mebaran151> is the lufs module precompiled with the kernel
[09:43] <nalioth> Seveas: i don't like the idea of a windows library in/near my linux kernel
[09:43] <GouramiGP> lol hello nalioth :)
[09:44] <Seveas> nalioth, me neitjer ;)
[09:44] <Seveas> s/j/h/
[09:44] <_SWAT_> my Ubuntu doesn't recognize my primary IDE device on my secondary IDE channel (Pioneer DVD writer). Anyone got any ideas? (somehow disabling DMA worked, partially). Anyone got a 'permanent' solution? (I'm not the only one with this problem)
[09:44] <Zyzznder> Anyone?
[09:44] <GouramiGP> Seveas no i think ftp would confuse the users and they are on windows machines
[09:44] <Seveas> GouramiGP, ah, you want samba filesharing I guess?
[09:44] <denial> que pasa
[09:45] <denial> ?
[09:45] <denial> quit
[09:45] <GouramiGP> yes Seveas, preferably so I can just map a drive
[09:45] <_SWAT_> denial, english plz
[09:45] <Seveas> Zyzznder, we can't really help you without a more precise error...
[09:45] <mebaran151> ok
[09:45] <mebaran151> I research lufs
[09:45] <mebaran151> it looks pretty nice
[09:45] <Zyzznder> another thing was a message that said " to burn the CD in a lower speed
[09:45] <mebaran151> but I dont want to compile a kernel from scratch
[09:45] <Seveas> GouramiGP, then you will have to create normal users indeed
[09:45] <mebaran151> it needs to have a module in the kernel to run
[09:46] <mebaran151> is this module included in the current ubuntu stock kernel
[09:46] <GouramiGP> ok thanks Seveas
[09:46] <sean_> is there a way to browse windows partitions as a user?
[09:47] <sean_> when i mount them i can only view as root
[09:47] <Seveas> sean_, you need to add certain options to the fstab line
[09:47] <DodGeR_X> add them to fstab as user,ro maybe ?
[09:47] <sean_> i put in user
[09:47] <Seveas> sean_, add umask=0000
[09:47] <sean_> ok
[09:47] <sean_> and can u write to ntfs?
[09:47] <Seveas> no(t easily)
[09:48] <sean_> ok
[09:48] <_SWAT_> wouldn't recommend it, but it's possible
[09:48] <_SWAT_> big chance you'll have data loss
[09:48] <GouramiGP> Seveas sorry one more Q, presumably the best place to store their folders would be under their home directory
[09:48] <Seveas> GouramiGP, yes indeed
[09:48] <Zyzznder> Seveas, does that tell you something?
[09:48] <gavin> how do i play a dvd
[09:48] <Seveas> you can simply share these home directories :)
[09:48] <GouramiGP> k
[09:48] <Seveas> gavin: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:49] <mrpickles> how do i change the plash screen in ubuntu ?
[09:49] <jtan325> how do i change my system to use alsa? currently my speakers sound like crap when they play any music :-(
[09:49] <Seveas> mrpickles, which one, the one you get during login..?
[09:49] <mrpickles> the splash screen after I login
[09:49] <Seveas> mrpickles: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[09:50] <Seveas> jtan325, disable ESD and configure all applications to use alsa :)
[09:50] <Seveas> system -> prefs -> sound "Enable sound server startup" <-- for the first part of that
[09:50] <Vjaz> Is there any alternative kernel package that's more minimal than the standard package? I want a kernel with the serial driver modularised, but I have trouble compiling my own because of udev, hotplug and folks.
[09:51] <Raskall> is it my imagination, or is ubuntu actually a lot faster to use than Fedora Core 4? I have dualboot between the two and ubuntu is superior to fedora performance-wise.
[09:51] <_0kills> hello
[09:51] <Seveas> Raskall, that is not your imagination
[09:52] <mebaran151> so is the lufs module prebuilt?
[09:52] <mebaran151> anybody know
[09:53] <jtan325> Seveas: i.e. i configured beep to use the alsa 0.9.7 output plugin, but it still sounds pretty bad
[09:53] <jtan325> Seveas: and the "enable ..." option was already checked
[09:54] <Seveas> you need to uncheck it ;)
[09:54] <Seveas> checking it enables esd
[09:54] <Raskall> Seveas: strange, really. both runs gnome 2.10, marginally different kernels and on the exact same hardware.
[09:54] <jtan325> Seveas: OHHHHHHHH
[09:55] <Evans> hello
[09:55] <aldo> aldef222hotmail.com
[09:55] <aldo> hello
[09:56] <GouramiGP> hello evans, any luck ?
[09:56] <sean_> grr, still cant access windows partition, it belongs to, root
[09:56] <jtan325> Seveas: it still doesn't sound as good as when i play it in windows... under beep, do i need to do anything under the "preferences" for "ALSA 0.9.7 output plugin"?
[09:56] <sean_> and it wont let me change it because the disk is read only
[09:56] <jtan325> Seveas: or do i need to reboot or something
[09:57] <Seveas> sean_, simply remove it from fstab and...
[09:57] <Seveas> sean: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[09:57] <Evans> goruami: no
[09:57] <Evans> i tried reinstalling
[09:57] <Evans> the drivers...
[09:57] <Evans> it says modem
[09:57] <Seveas> jtan325, ENOIDEA, I sticked to esd...
[09:57] <Evans> not repsnngi
[09:57] <Evans> responding i do an eagle stat
[09:57] <Evans> ...
[09:58] <gero|fool> how to open the sources.list?
[09:58] <jtan325> Seveas: but then doesn't your music sound crappier?
[09:58] <Seveas> not really
[09:58] <GouramiGP> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources/list gero|fool
[09:58] <GouramiGP> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list gero|fool
[09:59] <GouramiGP> evans did you check the url I pasted
[09:59] <Evans> yea
[09:59] <Evans> i asked rebell to...
[09:59] <Evans> he told me to type Startadsl
[09:59] <Evans> which i did
[09:59] <Evans> ...
[09:59] <gero|fool> thx
[09:59] <GouramiGP> bummer
[10:01] <Evans> i know
[10:01] <Evans> hello JsShanoon
[10:01] <Evans> may i ask is there an Op.Admin in here
[10:02] <Seveas> op.admin..?
[10:02] <Seveas> you mean channel op?
[10:02] <Evans> yeah
[10:02] <jtan325> so i still don't really understand this process of mounting and unmounting a device
[10:03] <Evans> oh lol...
[10:03] <Seveas> hi :)
[10:03] <TPC> Evans, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[10:03] <jtan325> it seems like anything that's mounted will appear in /etc/fstab
[10:03] <jtan325> and you have to use the "mount command" or something?
[10:03] <Evans> thanks
[10:03] <Evans> Seveas
[10:03] <Evans> may i suggest a faster network and free
[10:03] <jtan325> and then for some reason, it's very important to unmount drives and stuff before shutdown
[10:04] <jtan325> can anyone explain this in a quick sentence or two? i'd really appreciate it
[10:04] <Seveas> Evans, of course you may suggest, but Ubuntu will most likely stay on freenode
[10:04] <Evans> irc.darkfuture.org
[10:04] <Seveas> jtan325, unmounting flushes all drive caches
[10:04] <Evans> very very very fast
[10:04] <rasputnik> jtan325: you're confusing fstab and mtab
[10:04] <Seveas> so the state is stable
[10:05] <rasputnik> jtan325: a mount maps a disk or devices filesystem in the toplevel filesystem
[10:05] <jtan325> ok
[10:05] <rasputnik> s/in/into/
[10:06] <rasputnik> so 'mount /dev/cdrom /foo' says 'make the files in /dev/cdrom appear under /foo'
[10:06] <LeaChim> i have just tried to mount my home partition on an sata drive
[10:06] <runedude_> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[10:06] <runedude_> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[10:06] <rasputnik> on ubuntu a lot of mount operations are done for you by a little daemon called udev
[10:06] <runedude_> ^^ what package fixes that?
[10:06] <LeaChim> /dev/sda3 to be precise
[10:07] <LeaChim> however, it seems to take slightly too long starting up
[10:07] <LeaChim> so the mount fails, and i have to mount it manually
[10:07] <Evans> Seveas that server us better#
[10:07] <jtan325> rasputnik: where is this "udev"?
[10:07] <jtan325> "ubuntu device manager?"
[10:07] <LeaChim> so any ideas on how to delay the mount?
[10:07] <jtan325> rasputnik: or i mean, "ubuntu device database"?
[10:08] <rasputnik> jtan325: man udev
[10:08] <Will__> LeaChim: Is it in /etc/fstab ? You could comment it out
[10:08] <LeaChim> Will__, but it's the home partition - i don't want to manually mount it every single timei boot
[10:09] <Seveas> Evans, but ubuntu has quite strong binding with freenode
[10:09] <rasputnik> LeaChim: anything in /var/log/messages you could google
[10:09] <frozsyn> hello
[10:09] <rasputnik> ?
[10:09] <frozsyn> i have a laptop with a linux system installed
[10:09] <Evans> ok seaves just suggested anyway
[10:09] <frozsyn> i want to know if unbuntu can be installed on another partition using my installed linux system
[10:09] <frozsyn> ?
[10:10] <Seveas> evans: --- Looking up irc.darkfuture.org..
[10:10] <Seveas> --- Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[10:10] <Seveas> very fast indeed :)
[10:10] <LeaChim> rasputnik, it mounts fine - after i wait for the device to start up
[10:10] <jasoncohen> i can't view movie trailers on yahoo.com as it complains i don't have windows media player or quicktime installed. I have w32codecs, xine, mplayer, and kaffeine installed and i'm using the kaffeine-mozilla plugin. the same setup works fine on debian. what's going on?
[10:11] <chaps0063> how do I get version 1.0.4 of mozilla-firefox installed, apt-get install mozilla-firefox only gives me version 1.0.2?
[10:11] <rasputnik> LeaChim: just wondered if there's a mount option you can use. sda makes me think the scsi subsystem is involved somewhere, and scsi buses can need a few seconds to 'settle'
[10:11] <jasoncohen> chaps0063, ubuntu's 1.0.2 has the security fixes from 1.0.4 backported. if you want to use 1.0.4 anyways you can use backports
[10:11] <pinky> dsdf
[10:11] <pinky> sd
[10:11] <Seveas> chaps0063, that one actually has all 1.0.4 security paches applied
[10:12] <chaps0063> hmm...I didn't know that.  Nevermind then.
[10:12] <jasoncohen> can anyone here play yahoo.com movie trailers in firefox?
[10:12] <Seveas> you do not need (and really shouldn't) use the backports version
[10:12] <jasoncohen> Seveas, why not?
[10:12] <Evans> irc.dark-future.org
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu version of firefox doesnt allow middle button paste..
[10:12] <lsuactiafner> thats annoyin
[10:12] <Evans> irc.dark-future.org try this
[10:12] <chaps0063> Seveas, so then how would I go about installing version 1.0.4?
[10:12] <TPC> lsuactiafner, works for me
[10:12] <pinky> stop ot
[10:12] <pinky> *ot
[10:12] <pinky> *it
[10:12] <rasputnik> lsuactiafner: I think you'll find that the X protocol :)
[10:12] <pinky> im the real pinky
[10:12] <jasoncohen> chaps0063, add a backports source, run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[10:12] <pinky> not some fake cunt
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> chaps0063 : run a chroot which has a glibc firefox 1.0.4 compatible version
[10:13] <concept10> jason, you need to install mozilla-mplayer
[10:13] <lsuactiafner> rasputnik : it not related to firefox?
[10:13] <concept10> jasoncohen, mozilla-mplayer
[10:13] <jasoncohen> concept10, no- i use kaffeine-mozilla on debian
[10:13] <rasputnik> lsuactiafner: no, middle button paste is part of all X programs
[10:13] <jasoncohen> and it should work in ubuntu
[10:13] <pinky_> stop
[10:13] <jasoncohen> i prefer kaffeine's plugin
[10:14] <randabis> anyone have a moment?
[10:14] <lsuactiafner> yeh but firefox doesnt accept it, if its a url bein pasted onto firefox then it should link there
[10:14] <randabis> I can't get java working in firefox for some odd reason
[10:14] <randabis> I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide.org and it still does not work :/
[10:14] <jasoncohen> randabis, did you enable java?
[10:14] <chaps0063> is there anyway i can get apache preconfigured with php/mysql support?
[10:14] <randabis> yes
[10:14] <pinky> pinky_: sucker !
[10:15] <randabis> jasoncohen: java works. I can run azureus just fine for example
[10:15] <jasoncohen> preferences > web features
[10:15] <Seveas> chaps0063, of course :)
[10:15] <jasoncohen> randabis, no- i mean in firefox
[10:15] <pinky_> why are you called pinky then?
[10:15] <randabis> jasoncohen: yes
[10:15] <chaps0063> Seveas, how do I go about that?
[10:15] <Seveas> chaps0063, aptitude instapp libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql
[10:15] <concept10> jasoncohen, kaffeine-mizilla
[10:15] <Seveas> (and mysql-server too perhaps)
[10:15] <pinky_> answer fool
[10:15] <jasoncohen> concept10, yeah, it's installed
[10:15] <rasputnik> lsuactiafner: it works here (I mean I can paste into the location bar). do you mean onto the shortcut or something?
[10:15] <concept10> jasoncohen, did you restart browswer after install?
[10:15] <randabis> jasoncohen: yes, java is enabled in firefox
[10:16] <jasoncohen> concept10, yes- apparently, yahoo only sees windows media player & quicktime with mozilla-mplayer installed
[10:16] <randabis> it says the plugin is missing, but I know the plugin is in there..I checked /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:16] <concept10> jasoncohen, well install that
[10:16] <LeaChim> rasputnik, i can't find any sort of delayed mount option. if i changed it to noauto, where could i put a command to mount it on system boot?
[10:16] <tina_> hi all! scuse me, can somebody help me?  i have problems with my sound drivers, common users can't play sounds, but if i exceute for examble xmms trough root i have no problem
[10:17] <jasoncohen> concept10, ok- now it works
[10:17] <jasoncohen> concept10, i had to set it up with mozilla-mplayer and then uninstall mozilla-mplayer
[10:17] <tina_> the same happens with games llike quake
[10:17] <TPC> tina_, your user needs to be in the right group. its called sound or audio or something.
[10:17] <randabis> anyone have any ideas I could try to get java working in firefox?
[10:18] <rasputnik> LeaChim: it'd be something in fstab, but it'd be specific to the sata mount command, which I'm not familiar with
[10:18] <Evans> randabis: download Java
[10:18] <Seveas> randabis, maybe ln -s the plugin...
[10:18] <chaps0063> what is the best way to install java?
[10:18] <Seveas> (if java is installed already that is)
[10:18] <Seveas> chaps0063: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[10:18] <LeaChim> rasputnik, there doeosn't seem to be any sort of delay option though - i'm thinking if i stopped it mounting by useing noauto, and then mounted it using a script later on in the boot process?
[10:19] <pinky_> root@pink-panther:/home/pinky # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[10:19] <pinky_> Reading package lists... Done
[10:19] <pinky_> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:19] <pinky_> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[10:19] <odie5533> anyone know why when I open doc files in AbiWord, some of the words are missing?
[10:19] <pinky_> anyone help me :(
[10:19] <jasoncohen> concept10, i guess in debian i first used mozilla-mplayer so it was already setup in yahoo.
[10:19] <rasputnik> LeaChim: yeah, see what you're saying - does ubuntu have something like rc.local?
[10:19] <synd> odie5533: abiword is finiky
[10:19] <Seveas> pinky_, do NOT paste in here
[10:19] <DodGeR_X> Seveas, it seems one cannot make-jpkg on the new jdk1.5.04 (which is the latest jdk)
[10:19] <jasoncohen> i just checked on debian. w/o mozilla-mplayer installed, it only sees realplayer
[10:19] <odie5533> synd: So the only alternative is OO.o?
[10:19] <DodGeR_X> not sure what version the make-jpkg works for
[10:19] <synd> odie5533: have you tried OpenOffice?
[10:19] <sean_> is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partition to take up my whole hd?
[10:19] <randabis> Evans: dude, I'm not stupid. I have java and it works. It works in konqueror and azureus
[10:19] <Seveas> pinky_, and enable universe/multiverse
[10:19] <rasputnik> LeaChim: just feel there should be a neater way...
[10:19] <randabis> java just won't work in firefox
[10:20] <odie5533> Open Office is slow... low ram machine needs to edit ms doc files =/
[10:20] <LeaChim> rasputnik, yes, but i can't seem to find anything.... :(
[10:20] <Seveas> randabis, probably a symlink is missing
[10:20] <pinky_> how do I enable ?
[10:20] <pinky_> and why cant I paste :/
[10:20] <Seveas> pinky_: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:20] <Seveas> pinky_: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:20] <pinky_> I did that :x
[10:20] <synd> odie5533: what kind of machine are you on
[10:20] <Seveas> pinky_, because it is disturbing
[10:20] <pinky_> ?
[10:20] <randabis> Seveas: possibly..I'll investigate, but it looks like the links are there
[10:20] <odie5533> emachine
[10:20] <odie5533> its like 6 years old
[10:20] <synd>  odie5533: i mean specs
[10:20] <Seveas> randabis, check for a link to libjavaplugin-oji.so
[10:20] <jasoncohen> #ubuntu needs a bot like dpkg in #debian to answer these questions
[10:20] <jasoncohen> dpkg is great
[10:21] <odie5533> cpu is like 1gHz and 3xx mb RAM
[10:21] <Seveas> ubotu is a bot
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:21] <chaps0063> Seveas, make-jpkg not found
[10:21] <Seveas> ubotu, shut up!
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[10:21] <concept10> pinky_, did you do a apt-get upgrade?
[10:21] <synd> !synd
[10:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, synd is a badass
[10:21] <Seveas> chaps0063, enable multiverse
[10:21] <synd> :>
[10:21] <Seveas> rofl
[10:21] <pinky_> yeas
[10:21] <sean_> is there a way i can resize my ubuntu partition to take up my whole hd?
[10:22] <chaps0063> not a shell builtin
[10:22] <tina_> TPC: i have tried with kuser but i have problems because the applicaTION CRUSHED,
[10:22] <synd> odie5533: open office should do fine on that once its up and running
[10:22] <tina_> TPC: how can i add the user to the audio group throough konsole?
[10:22] <synd> odie5533: i run it on a pentium III 650Mhz, 128MB
[10:22] <Seveas> tina_, adduser USERNAME audio
[10:22] <odie5533> synd: the other problem I am having (well, my family is having... I never had it) is that the computer closes firefox and just leaves them at the desktop
[10:22] <concept10> sean_, what is on the other partitions(s)
[10:23] <Evans> i getting a new PC i blew my other one up lol...
[10:23] <sean_> windows ntfs
[10:23] <sean_> im going to erase it
[10:23] <odie5533> I have never had it happen to me, so thats all the info I have. I checked mem usage, we have over 100mb free at the time of the "crash"
[10:23] <chaps0063> Seveas, enable multiverse = "not a shell builtin"
[10:23] <odie5533> snyd: what desktop manager do you use?
[10:23] <Seveas> chaps0063: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:23] <concept10> sean_, use qtparted
[10:23] <synd> odie5533: the computer closes firefox and just leaves what on the desktop?
[10:23] <Seveas> chaps0063: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:24] <synd> odie5533: XFCE
[10:24] <sean_> concept10, ok ty
[10:24] <odie5533> synd: leaves whatever was on on the desktop. It just takes them to it is all
[10:24] <odie5533> synd: what login manager do you use?
[10:24] <synd> odie5533: login manager? the regular ubuntu one
[10:25] <randabis> Seveas: I think that might have been the problem. :)
[10:25] <odie5533> not boot loader, login manager
[10:25] <tina_> TPC: should i login again with the user if i want that the changes have effect?
[10:25] <chaps0063> Seveas, added those...
[10:25] <TPC> tina_, yes
[10:25] <concept10> gosh QT apps look horrible under gnome
[10:25] <tina_> ok, i will try, thanks a lot for all
[10:25] <sensayshun> Whenever I type sudo apt-get install gdesklets it starts to work before saying E: Couldn't find package gdesklets
[10:25] <tina_> bye
[10:25] <synd> odie5533: yes, the regular ubuntu login manager
[10:26] <sensayshun> can anyone help?
[10:26] <Seveas> concept10, you could have skipped the last 2 words of that line :)
[10:26] <odie5533> synd: how do I install that?
[10:26] <Seveas> sensayshun, enable universe
[10:26] <synd> odie5533: install what?
[10:26] <synd> odie5533: OFCE?
[10:26] <concept10> heh.
[10:26] <synd> XFCE*
[10:26] <odie5533> synd: the regular ubuntu login manager
[10:26] <sensayshun> Seveas, Lost me there :P Where can I go about enabling universe?
[10:26] <shamus> i'm trying to set up a dual boot system, and my mobo only has 2 ide slots which are being used, so my second harddrive is going to have to be slave, but i only have a jumper for one drive, anything i can do?
[10:26] <Se7h> i forgot the dev package to compile gcc stuff
[10:26] <Se7h> :|
[10:26] <Seveas> sensayshun: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:26] <Seveas> sensayshun: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:26] <synd> odie5533: it comes with the regular ubuntu installation?
[10:26] <odie5533> synd: mine loads with kdm always
[10:27] <synd> odie5533: KDE?
[10:27] <odie5533> synd: kdm
[10:27] <odie5533> synd: kdm to kde then
[10:27] <sensayshun> Seveas: thanks
[10:27] <synd> whats KDM?
[10:27] <odie5533> synd: you dont use like WDM
[10:28] <Vjaz> synd, KDE Display Manager. It's what you login to KDE from usually.
[10:28] <synd> youre gonna have to spell out these acronyms
[10:28] <concept10> shamus, just set one for master, one slave or if your motherboard has the feature, use cable select.  Also, consult the manufacturers site that makes your drive
[10:28] <odie5533> synd: how do you login to xfce, and what did you install to get all on your computer, such as server or normal install?
[10:28] <synd> Vjaz: ah. i figured it had to do with KDE
[10:28] <Vjaz> synd, Most software with a K in their name are KDE software. :-p
[10:28] <synd> odie5533: I did a regular Ubuntu Gnome installation.
[10:28] <Heimdall> hey all !!!
[10:28] <NoNiCkS> thauros, aeeeeeeeeee
[10:28] <odie5533> synd: ohh
[10:29] <thauros> aeee NoNiCkS
[10:29] <thauros> ;]
[10:29] <synd> Vjaz: and did a simple apt-get install xfce4
[10:29] <chaps0063> Seveas, says no matching plugin was found, removing temporary directory: done, never makes a .deb package.
[10:29] <synd> odie5533: hard to believe you put such a bloated interface on that little 1ghz
[10:29] <Seveas> chaps0063, then you perhaps downloaded the .rpm.deb
[10:30] <Seveas> chaps0063, then you perhaps downloaded the .rpm.bin
[10:30] <odie5533> synd: I did it for my family, they wanted it, but xfce will have to do
[10:30] <Heimdall> hey I'm looking for a good msn-like for my ubuntu (except amsn which has problems) which one could you advise me ,?
[10:30] <synd> odie5533: i dont even like KDE on my Pentium 4's
[10:30] <Seveas> you need the regular .bin
[10:30] <LeaChim> Heimdall, gaim
[10:30] <Vjaz> 1Ghz is plenty. RAM is what makes a difference in the end.
[10:30] <Seveas> Heimdall, by default gaim is installed
[10:30] <LeaChim> Heimdall, applications, internet, gaim
[10:30] <odie5533> synd: I use gnome on my pc, amd 2600
[10:30] <chaps0063> Seveas, and that will do it?
[10:30] <Seveas> kopete (for KDE) seems to be good to
[10:30] <Seveas> chaps0063, yes, then you can use make-jpkg
[10:30] <Heimdall> yeah I know but gaim is not very good, for files for example
[10:30] <DodGeR_X> chaps0063,  u trying to get jdk installed ?
[10:30] <chaps0063> yes
[10:31] <odie5533> well, I am going to reboot, and reinstall ubuntu with XFCE4 only, thanks for the help, later
[10:31] <chaps0063> well just java
[10:31] <chaps0063> for mozilla
[10:31] <DodGeR_X> ahh
[10:31] <chaps0063> Seveas, seems to be working...
[10:31] <sensayshun> seveas, I've enabled universe, but I still get the same error message
[10:31] <DodGeR_X> which jdk did u download chaps0063?
[10:32] <Heimdall> a friend of mine told me about mercury do you know about it ?
[10:32] <chaps0063> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:32] <DodGeR_X> sweet , and jut the .bin ? and jpkg works ?
[10:32] <Seveas> sensayshun, try an apt-get update
[10:32] <DodGeR_X> jut = just
[10:32] <chaps0063> yea..
[10:32] <DodGeR_X> nice , thanks for info :)
[10:33] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, the messenger mercury?
[10:33] <Heimdall> yes
[10:33] <Heimdall> www.mercury.to
[10:33] <NoNiCkS> i install here for a short time
[10:33] <Heimdall> and ?
[10:33] <sensayshun> seveas, yeah just found it in the ubuntu starter guide, doing it now
[10:33] <chaps0063> Seveas, thanks.
[10:34] <NoNiCkS> i have just 120 of ram
[10:34] <Heimdall> NoNiCkS ?
[10:35] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, need more ram
[10:35] <yuacht> how do i resize pictures in the terminal? i wanna do it in the terminal, no gui
[10:35] <Heimdall> NoNiCkS,  oh... you're under ubuntu ?
[10:35] <NoNiCkS> and my can dosent work
[10:35] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, yes
[10:35] <Seveas> yuacht, with mogrify
[10:35] <Heimdall> NoNiCkS,  where di you download it ? on the web site ?
[10:35] <Seveas> or resize
[10:35] <Seveas> yuacht, both part of the imagemagick package
[10:36] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, a friend send me a package
[10:36] <yuacht> thx
[10:36] <NoNiCkS> to test
[10:36] <chaps0063> Seveas, thanks, got it working.
[10:37] <sensayshun> seveas, another one just sayiong thanks, got it working :D
[10:37] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, if you want merury just to use the webcan you can uso de amsn
[10:37] <NoNiCkS> *use
[10:37] <Seveas> yw both :)
[10:37] <Heimdall> NoNiCkS, amsn has got problems with my computer, I don't know why sometimes it just freeze
[10:37] <DodGeR_X> im gonna download just the .bin (not the .rpm.bin) and im sure ill get it working too , in a bit
[10:37] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, the same here
[10:38] <pinko> so... can anyone describe simply how to configure an ssh server?
[10:38] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, this happens just in unbuntu..
[10:38] <pinko> I can already ssh to it from the network, but not from outside.
[10:38] <flodine> a guys i change my tv card from ati to hauppauge why wont it see it
[10:39] <Heimdall> NoNiCkS,  oh okay, I'm glad to see this is just for me :)
[10:39] <NoNiCkS> Heimdall, me to
[10:39] <echylo> hi
[10:39] <echylo> little problem
[10:39] <echylo> I just updated to breezy
[10:39] <echylo> and it keeps giving me error when starting X
[10:40] <frozsyn> i would like want to know if unbuntu can be installed on another partition using my installed linux system ?
[10:40] <pinko> heh.  good luck getting any help, echylo.
[10:40] <echylo> It gives me the error that .dmrc file has wrong permissions
[10:40] <echylo> but it has the right one's, even when I delete the file it says it's wrong
[10:40] <Will__> Could you paste your error into a pastebin? If you've not already googled it, we could help, possibly
[10:41] <echylo> I'm in irssi
[10:41] <echylo> I can't acces X for the moment
[10:41] <Will__> Yes you are
[10:41] <JHK> hi guys
[10:41] <Will__> use lynx? elinks?
[10:41] <flodine> guys got a new tv card how do i grt ubuntu to see it
[10:41] <echylo> hmm, wait how do you reconfigure a package?
[10:41] <Seveas> echylo, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && startx | ./pastebin
[10:42] <Seveas> spkg-reconfigure
[10:42] <Will__> Seveas: I'll write that one down
[10:42] <Seveas> dpkg-reconfigure
[10:42] <echylo> k
[10:42] <flodine> help a homeless man
[10:42] <JHK> does anyone know how to rename mounted harddisks from the "locations -> computer" menu?
[10:43] <TFK> Howdy guys, it seems that the default apt repositories that Synaptic gives me by default are a bit outdated (I'm particularly interesting in up-to-date clamav and cgoban), so I've been trying to find some kind of unsafe repository, but no luck.
[10:43] <TFK> Or are the repositories the same as Debian's?
[10:43] <rasputnik> TFK: have you enabled the universe repos?
[10:43] <TFK> Yes.
[10:43] <Seveas> TFK, maybe backports can help you
[10:44] <rasputnik> TFK: and the ones in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:44] <TFK> What are backports?
[10:44] <TFK> Thanks, will check it out
[10:45] <Octane> has *ANYONE* here gotten WINE to work w/ an amd64
[10:46] <Seveas> Octane, impossible if you use the amd64 Ubuntu
[10:46] <chaps0063> has anyone gotten the fglrx drivers to work with an ATI Radeon 9600XT?
[10:46] <Octane> Seveas: youre kidding
[10:46] <Seveas> with the i386 ubuntu it might work
[10:46] <rasputnik> TFK: I got the impression that 'backport' referred to bleeding edge packages from cvs that were hacked to work with releases
[10:46] <Seveas> rasputnik, they are sort of
[10:46] <Seveas> they are packages originally measnt for breezy built in a Hoary environment
[10:46] <depi> Hi I can't unpause the song after pausing it when using the ALSA output in XMMS, anyone has this problem?
[10:47] <aeolist> stop using xmms
[10:47] <aeolist> it's evil
[10:47] <aeolist> gtk 1
[10:47] <Juhaz> gtk1 is ugly as hell but what does that have to do with evil?
[10:48] <djp> i like rhythmbox
[10:48] <aeolist> you think evil can be beautiful?
[10:48] <Seveas> yes it can
[10:48] <rasputnik> Seveas: and 'breezy' is like ubuntu-devel?
[10:48] <Seveas> rasputnik, sort of
[10:48] <aeolist> yes rasputnik
[10:49] <Seveas> highly unstable right now (but backports are OK)
[10:49] <echylo> how do you start gnome from command line?
[10:49] <rasputnik> aeolist: of course - like the princess in the buck rogers tv series
[10:49] <Seveas> echylo, invoke-rc.d gdm start
[10:49] <echylo> thx
[10:50] <echylo> hmm
[10:50] <echylo> failed
[10:50] <Seveas> startx then
[10:50] <Seveas> (that gives more info on the error)
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> rofl invoke.. rofl
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> a simple run wouldnt do.. invoke it man
[10:51] <echylo> Seveas: then I get a grey screen with a cross as mousepointer
[10:51] <rasputnik> yargh just enabled backports and multiverse, 'apt-get update' is pulling a *shitload* of new stuff down
[10:51] <echylo> Seveas: I think it tries to start xfce, which is uninstalled, can I configure it somewhere?
[10:51] <rasputnik> echylo: ctrl-alt-backspace will get you back to the command line.
[10:51] <echylo> I know :)
[10:52] <echylo> otherwise I wouldn't be typing in irssie :p
[10:52] <rasputnik> echylo: now edit ~/.xinitrc and add 'exec whatever'
[10:52] <echylo> and if the file doesn't exists?
[10:52] <echylo> just making an new ?
[10:53] <rasputnik> yes. gdm does'nt use it. 'exec gnome-session' will get you gnome
[10:53] <echylo> hmm why did I updated to breezy in the first place :s
[10:53] <echylo> cannot open display error
[10:53] <rasputnik> echylo: when?
[10:54] <echylo> when I do 'exec gnome-session"
[10:54] <rasputnik> echylo: no dude that needs to be in .xinitrc, then run startx
[10:54] <echylo> oh
[10:54] <echylo> ok
[10:54] <echylo> :s
[10:54] <rasputnik> see you should have taken the other pill
[10:54] <klaym> hey people, what's wrong with my VLC player. it gives me no sound on videos and gives me this error: oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp). it also gives me this: [mpeg4 @ 0x83f003c] looks like this file was encoded with (divx4/(old)xvid/opendivx) -> forcing low_delay flag
[10:55] <echylo> rasputnik: yup, cause I get the grey screen again :)
[10:56] <chaps0063> is anyone available to assist me in the installation of fglrx drivers for my ati radeon 9600xt?
[10:56] <aeolist> i am on a fresh ubuntu hoary installation
[10:56] <aeolist> and azureus asks for 75 mb of data wtf?
[10:56] <rasputnik> echylo: right, see if there's a new file in your home dir, sometimes X writes an error log. are you sure gnome is installed?
[10:56] <Seveas> klaym, let vlc use esd or disable esd
[10:56] <klaym> Seveas: how to ?
[10:57] <echylo> yes gnome is installed, it started it a couple of minutes a go, but now it doesn't
[10:57] <Seveas> klaym, check the vlc config :)
[10:57] <klaym> ok
[10:57] <echylo> rasputnik: errors with ICE, alot of errors in that genre
[10:57] <echylo> rasputnik: like cannot create /dev/X
[10:58] <rasputnik> echylo: wierd. But if you get the greyscreen and the X, that *is* X
[10:59] <littlefae> Hi people. :)
[10:59] <echylo> rasputnik: I have the feeling it doesn't use .xinitrc, but somewhere I think it refers to xfce
[10:59] <littlefae> Can someone enlighten me.  What is reiserfs, and whats the benefits?
[10:59] <linuxboy> littlefae: its a filesystem
[11:00] <DodGeR_X> echylo, u try restarting gdm ? ie kill all open X windows , then start gdm , and choose gnome session ?
[11:00] <bremac> >_>
[11:00] <echylo> DodGeR_X: yes :) then I have a brown screen ;)
[11:00] <echylo> doing nothing
[11:00] <vudeux> howdy...
[11:00] <littlefae> Is it true that it's 'faster than ext2'? :)
[11:00] <bremac> reiserfs information: www.namesys.com/
[11:00] <echylo> if I would have taken backups, I would format it now
[11:01] <vudeux> why is it that when I installed Apache 2 off of Synaptic, it made the conf files read only, and root as the owner? I can't do anything wiff the conf files
[11:01] <littlefae> Is it possible to convert ext2 to reiserfs, in an Ubuntu environment?
[11:01] <vudeux> any way around that?
[11:02] <chaps0063> how do i enable dma on a drive, and enable it on startup also
[11:02] <TFK> Woo! The backprots, thanks! But not for all packages, unfortunatelly. Any other big sources for the latest software for Ubuntu?
[11:02] <js_> chaps0063: use hdparm
[11:02] <TFK> *the backports worked
[11:02] <james21> Hi i am trying to set up Ubuntu but it won't let me type in the 'Enter a password for the new user' field ..
[11:02] <echylo> rasputnik: if I try to start gdm, it keeps giving me errors about that .dmrc file
[11:03] <chaps0063> js_, and that does it automatically on bootup?
[11:03] <linuxboy> littlefae: i think ext3 might be better... but I'm not too sure about reiserfs
[11:03] <Se7h> i forgot the dev package to compile gcc stuff. can anyone tell me bout it?
[11:03] <_SWAT_> I want to rename 100 files. I need to remove the first 3 chars. How do I do that fast?
[11:03] <pgidz> echylo what does it say in that file
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> how do i get this mouse workin :   idVendor 0x0458 KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) iManufacturer  1 Genius  iProduct 2 NetScroll+ Superior
[11:03] <echylo> rasputnik: it tells me it has wrong permissions(should be 644, and that it should be owned by user), it refers to the $HOME/.dmrc file, which is empty here, and has permission 644
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> anyone have any experience?
[11:04] <pgidz> echylo in that file put [Desktop]  then on a newline put Session=gnome
[11:05] <echylo> ok i'll try , thx
[11:05] <echylo> gnome or gnome-session?
[11:05] <pgidz> echylo just 'Session=gnome'
[11:06] <echylo> hmm
[11:07] <pgidz> echylo i think the permission should be 600
[11:07] <echylo> pgidz: now I keep getting: "the configuration file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running the default command, please fix your configuration"
[11:07] <chaps0063> alright, got DVDs workin now..
[11:07] <james21> For some reason it wont let me type in the password field for new username, can i go back to the Ubuntu installer main menu & proceed with the next step ????
[11:07] <pgidz> echylo what permission have you set the file too
[11:08] <echylo> pgidz: first 644, now 600, same error
[11:08] <pgidz> echylo what have you got in that file now
[11:09] <cavediver> Hi guys. I get an annoying solid brown background for about 5 sec, while the gnome-splashscreen loads and before my desktop gets displayed. How can i remove or change the colour of this ?
[11:09] <umarmung> echylo: IMHO you need another line too, Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-session
[11:09] <echylo> in that .dmrc?
[11:09] <pgidz> echylo yes
[11:10] <echylo> damned , still the same error
[11:10] <umarmung> echylo: sorry my mistake, thought you talk about the .desktop file not .dmrc :(
[11:11] <echylo> this is tiring
[11:11] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > hey, im having wireless problems.  It was working yesterday, but I restarted and now its not.  The channel is not right.  I try to set it and here is exactly what I type "sudo iwconfig eth0 freq 2.463" and it says "SET failed on device eth0 ; operation not supported"
[11:11] <echylo> It keeps saying it has wrong permissions
[11:12] <Seveas> maybe you need exec permissions on it
[11:13] <jaco^> mmm, anyone has compiled vlc for google video?
[11:13] <echylo> I'm giving up actually
[11:13] <echylo> is there another window manager installable from breezy repo's
[11:13] <echylo> or is there a way to auto reconfigure the whole X
[11:13] <bpuccio> cavediver: it you right click your desktop, go to change background, set the color to something else
[11:13] <echylo> or reinstall
[11:13] <nalioth_wrkn> echylo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:14] <Coyctecm> is breezy how usable?
[11:14] <echylo> NO
[11:14] <Coyctecm> ok
[11:14] <echylo> ;)
[11:14] <cavediver> bpuccio: I have nothing in there that resemble that colour even :=)
[11:14] <echylo> i'm fighting with alot of X problems now
[11:14] <bpuccio> cavediver: basically, gnome loads a solid color first, the color specified there and then loads the wallpaper on top of it, however, as you noticed, there exists a few seconds during which the wallpaper isn't loaded
[11:14] <bpuccio> cavediver: hmmm, I'm lost then
[11:14] <Coyctecm> bugs does not matter, i can fix them ;)
[11:15] <nalioth_wrkn> Coyctecm: it's not (unless you are a dev)
[11:15] <_4strO> yop yop all
[11:15] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > hey, im having wireless problems.  It was working yesterday, but I restarted and now its not.  The channel is not right.  I try to set it and here is exactly what I type "sudo iwconfig eth0 freq 2.463" and it says "SET failed on device eth0 ; operation not supported"
[11:15] <Coyctecm> nalioth: Ok =)
[11:15] <cavediver> I've set the solif colour under the image to blue. But it still load that ugly brown thingy... :(
[11:16] <Seveas> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , maybe you need to modprobe the driver..?
[11:16] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , are you sure its eth0 and not wlan0
[11:16] <bpuccio> cavediver: I'm sorry, I can't help you then
[11:16] <cavediver> ok thanks anyway
[11:16] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > ya, it says eith0 in network preferences or whatever
[11:17] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > it did this before
[11:17] <pablo928> I'm doing a dual boot install on a 80 GB Hdd. 20 GB for XP on a FAT32 partition and 80 GB for Ubuntu with 3xt3 partition. Is this going to work? (I'm installing XP right now).
[11:17] <Big_O> hmm
[11:17] <cavediver> pablo928: sure it will.
[11:17] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > and as soon as i change the channel on my router the computer changes the channel to the next lowest one
[11:18] <cavediver> pablo928: however, you can't have 20GB of XP and 80 GB of Ubuntu on a 80 GB hd..
[11:18] <nalioth> pablo928: sounds good, but linux can read/write easily to fat32 (while windows ...well it's windows)
[11:18] <amgad> hello every body
[11:18] <DodGeR_X> anyone ever manage to fill more then 10GB of a linux install with installed software ?
[11:18] <pablo928>  cavediver-I-ve done it before with XP on a NTFS partition but thought I'd try a Fat32 for the Linux compatibility.
[11:18] <nikkia_> does anyone here know how to get /etc/network/interfaces to assign a IPv6 link-local address to a static IP'ed interface? it generates one with the dhcp method, but not with static
[11:18] <cavediver> pablo928: ok.
[11:19] <amgad> can any bosy help me with j-pilot syncing problem?
[11:19] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , you could set the channel in etc->network->interfaces
[11:19] <jaco^> azz
[11:19] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > umm in a newb and have no idea where that is
[11:19] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , you could set the channel in etc/network/interfaces
[11:19] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > etc that is..
[11:19] <amgad> 'body'
[11:19] <echylo> hmm i'm ruining my system now, updated to breezy, installing hoary packages, can't go right
[11:20] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , etc is a folder look for it in nautilus
[11:20] <hondje> hey look, a fellow coloradan
[11:20] <Big_O> ah i can see now
[11:20] <hondje> we're infecting #ubuntu :D
[11:20] <Seveas> hondje, are you from colorado? That explains the low IQ...
[11:20] <hondje> Seveas: yessir, lack of O2
[11:20] <echylo> hondje sounds dutch
[11:21] <Seveas> echylo, he's not :)
[11:21] <echylo> yea
[11:21] <echylo> doggie
[11:21] <Big_O> hmm...my sound isnt working T_T
[11:21] <hondje> But I sure sound it :)
[11:21] <Seveas> you're just the 10,000th person to fall for it :)
[11:21] <echylo> yea probably
[11:21] <hondje> It's like, the best troll I've ever had, and it's totally not intentional :)
[11:21] <echylo> 9999 people from the netherlands probably ;)
[11:21] <echylo> :p
[11:21] <hondje> No, belgies mostly :)
[11:21] <Big_O> ugh >.>
[11:21] <echylo> :P
[11:22] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > i just type it in there somewhere and save the file?
[11:22] <vudeux> I need help with permissions
[11:22] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , do you have a line that says wireless_channel
[11:22] <Seveas> _SWAT_, as are echylo and myself :)
[11:22] <hondje> I don't like Colorado today though...I just got back from a few days up in the mountains, where the highs were a nice 75, and now I'm back home and it's 100 :-(
[11:22] <hans__> i cant load a logical fat32 partition..i followed the suggestions on ubuntugiude.org
[11:22] <echylo> :)
[11:23] <_SWAT_> Seveas, I thought so :)
[11:23] <cavediver> hans__: load ?
[11:23] <Seveas> Shamir, _SWAT_ #ubuntu-nl
[11:23] <Big_O> hmm anyway it works sometimes when i reboot
[11:23] <Big_O> O.o
[11:23] <hans__> mount:)

[11:23] <hondje> My website is in .nl, does that count? :)
[11:23] <_SWAT_> one more channel to join then :P
[11:23] <cavediver> hans__: oh i see. :)
[11:23] <nalioth> hans__: stay away from ubuntuguide
[11:23] <nalioth> hans__: wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <Big_O> but the sound server is crashing in kde
[11:23] <hans__> nalioth: why?
[11:23] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > no i do not have a line that says wireless channel
[11:23] <hans__> ok
[11:23] <cavediver> mount -t fat32 /dev/hdawhatever /mnt/windowsb0rk
[11:23] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > it also says that the file is read only]
[11:23] <nalioth> hans__: reason is item number 3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[11:24] <Seveas> hans__: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[11:24] <Big_O> or you could just add it to fstab O.o
[11:24] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , what do you have after iface, it will be because it is root
[11:24] <hans__> thx
[11:25] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:25] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , and under that
[11:25] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > network
[11:25] <Big_O> http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows <.<
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > brodcast
[11:26] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , then
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > # wireless
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] >  tools package
[11:26] <hondje> wait a second
[11:26] <hondje> backports are okay now?
[11:26] <Seveas> hondje, yeah
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > mode
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > essid
[11:26] <Big_O> O.o;
[11:26] <Big_O> ok then
[11:26] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > key1
[11:26] <hondje> Seveas: are they really okay, or just part of that 'hey look, they're official' thing?
[11:27] <bpuccio> is there a tool to edit themes (controls, window borders, etc)
[11:27] <Seveas> hondje, they're really ok
[11:27] <Seveas> I even use them myself :)
[11:27] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > # DNS
[11:27] <amgad> hello people
[11:27] <Seveas> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , stop it...
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> hello amgad
[11:27] <hondje> wow, up is down and down is up
[11:27] <amgad> can anybody help me to sync my m505 with jpilot under ubuntu??
[11:27] <ubuntumax> help
[11:27] <Seveas> pleh
[11:28] <ubuntumax> i did some updates to ubuntu and now grub won't boot my win2000 drive
[11:28] <ubuntumax> it hangs
[11:28] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , open a terminal and type sudo gedit //etc/network/interfaces and then add channel 11 under your iface eth0
[11:28] <amgad> tiglionabbit:???
[11:28] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > its channel 10, but ook
[11:28] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , or what ever channel your router is using
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> ubuntumax: tried looking at your menu.lst and saying `update-grub` ?
[11:29] <ubuntumax> before it hung on grub, it passed the grub screen then hung on the win2000 screen saying i had a corrup ntoskrnl.exe file
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> ubuntumax: that's a windows problem
[11:29] <ubuntumax> can i run update-grub from command line
[11:29] <yuacht> is there a app that quick converts a avi to gif animation?
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> ubuntumax: yes
[11:29] <Michel> My boot freezes in the network setup. I have to hit ctrl-C to make it go further. Anyone knows what the problem may be? I have 1 ethernet card, usually not conected and I have a wireless relying on ndiswrapper
[11:29] <ubuntumax> does update-grub find my partitions and update them accordingly?
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> amgad: uh, I have very little knowledge of what your question means.  I'm googling
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> ubuntumax: no, it just updates grub's menu
[11:30] <Seveas> ubuntulog, update-grub only updates the debian automagic kernel list...
[11:30] <amgad> thanks man..
[11:31] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > ok i added it, now just save?
[11:31] <tiglionabbit> amgad: does it work with gnome-pilot?
[11:31] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , yes
[11:31] <amgad> yes
[11:31] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > do i have to re-connect or anything before it works?
[11:32] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , you could try deactivating and activating your eth0
[11:32] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > ok
[11:32] <pallav> hey ppl
[11:32] <tiglionabbit> amgad: does this help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268
[11:32] <pallav> what software can i use to view .avi file?
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> pallav: vlc
[11:33] <pallav> for ubantu??
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> pallav: or any software if you have the correct codecs
[11:33] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > should it be taking a really long time to activate?
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> pallav: yes.  grab it off apt
[11:34] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , that means it is not finding you router
[11:34] <pallav> what can i get the codec for playing .avi files??
[11:34] <sunldn> hello all
[11:34] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > that what i thought
[11:34] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > damn
[11:34] <nalioth> if i was to use a x86 arch on a dual processor amd64 box, could i use the 686-smp kernel?
[11:34] <Michel> My boot freezes in the network setup. I have to hit ctrl-C to make it go further. Anyone knows what the problem may be? I have 1 ethernet card, usually not conected and I have a wireless relying on ndiswrapper
[11:34] <sunldn> i am a newbie here
[11:34] <shamus> I just installed ubuntu, or attempted to rather. The x server wasn't installed/configured correctly and i have no idea what to do
[11:34] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > so i need to click ok in the netwrok settings before it takes effect?
[11:34] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , are the channel freqs the same on the router and your card, my router channel 11 is not the same as channel 11 on my card
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] : are you using `network-admin`?  That program is kind of slow and sucky.  To get something faster, activate or deactivate by saying `sudo ifup eth0` or `sudo ifdown eth0` respectively, on the terminal
[11:34] <sunldn> i need some advice on how to connect ubuntu to Windows Printer.
[11:35] <amgad> nop, it didn't work
[11:35] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > i have no idea
[11:35] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > i woudl think so, they are both linksys
[11:35] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > but, can i type the freq in instead of the channel in that text file?
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> sunldn: windows printer?  Do you mean a printer you have "shared" on a windows machine?
[11:36] <pgidz> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , not sure you could try it
[11:36] <sunldn> yes
[11:36] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > should i say freq or spell it all out?
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> sunldn: I believe you can add a networked printer from the system -> admin -> printing thing
[11:36] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > terminal seems to reconise freq
[11:36] <sunldn> i just finished installed Ubuntu 10 minutes ago.
[11:37] <sunldn> i love it.
[11:37] <sunldn> thanks
[11:38] <sunldn> and how to do next.
[11:38] <ompaul> does dsub = serial ?
[11:39] <sunldn> i don't know what Host is.
[11:39] <JanC> nalioth : I think you could even use k7-smp
[11:39] <sunldn> any utility that allow me to browe for a printer in Windows wrokgroup.
[11:39] <JanC> but i'm not sure  :)
[11:40] <Lordjaag> hola, alguien en espaol que tenga experiencia con ubuntu???
[11:40] <tiglionabbit> sunldn: places -> network servers
[11:40] <nalioth> JanC: reason is: usability vs efficiency
[11:41] <tiglionabbit> Lordjaag: #ubuntu-es
[11:41] <Lordjaag> ok thanks
[11:41] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > yesterday, it worked with DHCP, but im looking on my winidows computer and it has all the ip info filled in instead
[11:41] <nalioth> JanC: more pkgs avail elsewhere than amd64 arch
[11:41] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > but as far as i can tell that doesnt work either on ubuntu
[11:42] <sunldn> tiglionabbit, it shows me only ShareDocs, no printers show.
[11:42] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > my router says dhcp is enabled
[11:42] <gardenia> I see that nvidia drivers in breezy aren't working but i presume they  can be source compiled right ?
[11:43] <Will__> Why are you using breezy>
[11:43] <Seveas> gardenia, indeed
[11:43] <Will__> <-tired
[11:44] <Michel> gardenia: Praise be given to NVidia for their Linux support!
[11:44] <mwe> heh
[11:44] <gardenia> Seveas, k thx
[11:44] <sunldn> anyone can help me to set Ubuntu joining Printer in Windows Workgroup.
[11:45] <JanC> nalioth : i386 architecture with the k7 kernel works on a single CPU amd64 system
[11:45] <gardenia> Michel, well almost..looks like ATI beat them to a X installable driver though..how lame is that ?
[11:45] <JanC> I have no experience with -smp though
[11:45] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > ati is better
[11:45] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > more band for your buck
[11:45] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > bang*
[11:45] <Michel> gardenia: How so? Not sure what you mean.
[11:45] <gardenia> there is a  GUI intsallable driver for ati now
[11:46] <gardenia> you dont have to 'exit' X to deal with it..like windows
[11:46] <gardenia> to me thats smart and nvidia should be ashamed
[11:46] <nalioth> JanC: well i was just wondring. i'm fixin to build a amd64 (dual proc) and really didnt want to compile everythng from scratch so that it ran
[11:46] <Michel> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , I find ati's support on laptop totally lame. They refer you to the laptop manufacturer and that never leads anywhere. Unless things have changed recently.
[11:47] <gardenia> maybe ati has lame support in some arenas but at least they are showing innovation
[11:47] <Michel> gardenia: I installed the nvidia drivers on ubuntu without having to exit X
[11:47] <Seveas> both ati and nvidia require an X restart to get the drivers working
[11:47] <gardenia> Michel, yes ubuntu makes it painelsss mostly..but not all distros offer this luxury
[11:47] <Seveas> you have to edit xorg.conf
[11:48] <Michel> Seveas, of course, but that's to be expected.
[11:48] <Seveas> and these changes are only effective after an X restart
[11:48] <gardenia> well sure even windows requires reboot ;-)heh
[11:48] <Michel> gardenia: I was quite pleased wth ubuntu. I come from a SuSE background as of late.
[11:48] <tiglionabbit> thing is though, X restarts in a few seconds, whereas windows requires a full power-off reboot
[11:48] <gardenia> sorry for mentioning THAT OS but hey <G>
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> hey, there's nothing wrong with it.  I'm proud to dual boot
[11:49] <gardenia> Michel, wow suse huh..one of the easiest to use distros period
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> suse?  ew, that wasn't easy to use, it screwed up everything I told it to do
[11:50] <gardenia> Michel, I was not overall pleased with their IRC channel..seems kinda childish sometimes but here they keep things decent I find
[11:50] <zip_> does anyone know why when i open certain programs i get "open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory".
[11:50] <zip_> then a segmentation fault(SDL parachute deployed)
[11:50] <Michel> gardenia, agreed and there are still things that I think are better on SuSE (like access to removable media) but I was getting problem on my laptop after a while. Things would disappear and the removable media feature would stop working.
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> zip_: that means it crashed.  Go ask the people who make the program what's wrong
[11:50] <gardenia> Michel, yeah ubuntu rocks for me except for my dain X crashing...I dont know how to solve so im thinking to try breezy and cross fingers LOL
[11:50] <zip_> tiglionabbit: i know what it means, i'm interested in how to fix it =\
[11:51] <nalioth> i'm proud to dual-boot, also (i own 2 iBooks)
[11:51] <Michel> gardenia, never have had X crashing in 10 years :)
[11:51] <gardenia> bizarre
[11:51] <zip_> its a sound problem evidently, i have no /dev/sequencer =p
[11:51] <gardenia> Michel, hoary ?
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> zip_: oh, yeah, I suppose that could cause a crash if the programmers didn't anticipate that..
[11:51] <Michel> Well I just installed hoary 2 days ago. So I cannot speak of its stability yet
[11:51] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > can soemone help me with my wireless?  I cant imput the channel or freq
[11:52] <[j] [a] [r] [e] [d] > it was working yesterday
[11:52] <Michel> [j] [a] [r] [e] [d] , perhaps....
[11:52] <gardenia> Michel, hmm well maybe i'm running into some bad ram or something equally depressing ..seems unlikely on this 2.5 year old dell but its possible ..bigtime sorrow of true..but I do see others have weird issues with gnome though
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> zip_: what are you trying to run?
[11:52] <gardenia> Michel, ah ok
[11:52] <zip_> tiglionabbit: TMW and Daimonin, both RPG games, seperate projects but they give the same error
[11:52] <Michel> gardenia, I do not use gnome. Coming from suse, I installed KDE
[11:52] <gardenia> Michel, I love ubuntu though so its worth sticking with and making better if need be
[11:52] <gardenia> Michel, true
[11:53] <Michel> gardenia, I do not quite get the gnome desktop. Can't get used to it....
[11:53] <MantasV> hi. i have small, but wery important question: what version of kernel is in newest ubuntu?
[11:54] <cavediver> 2.6.12 in Breezy, 2.6.10 in Hoary
[11:54] <gardenia> Michel, ah ok..well if you like kde I can understand..two totally different DE'
[11:54] <GrammatonCleric> 2.6.10-5-386
[11:54] <gardenia> s
[11:54] <MantasV> thank you :)
[11:54] <mwe> Linux freja <IP_ADDRESS>-eurus #3 Fri Jun 24 18:31:13 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> Michel: don't like gnome?  You can always install another WM.  'xfce4' and 'kubuntu-desktop' are easy to get from apt
[11:56] <cavediver> xfce4 are great.
[11:56] <mwe> fluxbox rox
[11:56] <gardenia> yeah..so fast.xfce4 is sweet
[11:56] <gardenia> and you can still run gnome panel if you want
[11:56] <mwe> gnome doesn't like me
[11:56] <Michel> tiglionabbit, I put K :) So it's kubuntu indeed.
[11:57] <gardenia> fluxbox is epitomy of quickness but kinda light for my tastes i guess
[11:57] <gardenia> Michel, heheh
[11:58] <Vjaz> PWM rules
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> Michel: well you could potentially install any wm you want, if you find some debs and do a little work
[11:59] <nalioth> Michel: or you could compile from source
[11:59] <Michel> tiglionabbit: Of course. I am happy with kdm though :) I am so used to it.
[11:59] <mwe> most popular wms are on the repos
[12:00] <synd> mwe: most WMs, regardless of popularity are in the repos