[05:43] <arghx> Math^: when you get the black screen, can you still use ctrl+alt+f2?
[05:43] <Math^> nope
[05:44] <Math^> arghx: hold on, I'll try this again
[05:44] <arghx> Math^: laptop or desktop?
[05:44] <Math^> laptop
[05:44] <arghx> intel cpu?
[05:44] <Math^> intel c i7
[05:45] <joshua__> sudo addgroup
[05:45] <arghx> fix you hybrid graphics then
[05:45] <joshua__> woop
[05:45] <Math^> arghx: hmm?
[05:45] <arghx> you have 2 videocards
[05:45] <Math^> arghx: two?
[05:46] <arghx> Math^: your i7 has a videocard, your ati 5670 is a videocard
[05:46] <wiredfool> so, I've got a usb key wifi adapter that doesn't work after suspend/resume. You need to reload the kernel module. I've fixed that with a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d -- is that a bug for the kernel or pm-utils?
[05:46] <Math^> arghx: ah, there's video onboard on my laptop? :/
[05:46] <celltech> May I post a link. and someone help me find the proper driver I need for 11.10 and my graphics adapter?
[05:46] <arghx> wiredfool: kernel
[05:46] <wiredfool> arghx: thanks
[05:46] <arghx> carestad: lspci -nn|grep VGA
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> wiredfool: i've seen that a few times
[05:47] <Confoozled> So my laptop with Ubuntu 10.10 no longer boots....anyonw help this moron?
[05:47] <arghx> Confoozled: how far does it get?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Confoozled: what happens when you attempt to boot?
[05:47] <Confoozled> well
[05:47] <psingh> I just tried Gnome 3 in a virtual machine.  Visually, it seems a bit less unified than Unity.  I've used the Adwaita theme.
[05:48] <celltech> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <wiredfool> ActionParsnip: nice thing is, reloading the module makes the wireless come back in ~3 seconds
[05:48] <Math^> arghx: it says 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies [Radeon HD 5600 Series] [1002:68c1]
[05:48] <Confoozled> Init:  Failed to spawn ureadahead main process: unable to execute: Input/output error          Filesystem check or mount failed
[05:48] <arghx> Math^: use the radeon driver. reboot and check all Xorg.*.log files for one that tried to load the radeon one and pastebin that one
[05:48] <Math^> arghx: ok
[05:49] <arghx> Confoozled: boot a live cd and fsck your filesystem
[05:49] <Math^> arghx: It did work actually one time, but after that I had a black screen everytime
[05:49] <joshua__> the addgroup command told me the group already existed.. I need to join a group, not add a new one.  What's that command?
[05:49] <Spaceghost> Hi.
[05:49] <celltech> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+82845G+Graphics+Controller  What one do I need?
[05:49] <Confoozled> am running off boot cd
[05:49] <Spaceghost> I installed Ubuntu with Wubi in Windows 7 and it looks like didn't work.
[05:49] <arghx> celltech: none of them
[05:50] <Spaceghost> When I boot through the Windows boot is like I boot from the Live CD.
[05:50] <celltech> Well my grapics adapter isn't working right at all since the upgrade
[05:50] <Spaceghost> Tthat request me a new install.
[05:50] <Spaceghost> Also I don't know how uninstall it for try again.
[05:50] <arghx> celltech: that might be, but downloading random software you have no clue about doesn't solve your problem
[05:50] <firelord42> Spaceghost: did you eject teh cd before rebooting?
[05:50] <Spaceghost> firelord42: yes
[05:50] <celltech> It's from the intel site
[05:50] <celltech> my graphics chipset
[05:50] <Spaceghost> I didn't use any CD, I used Daemon Tools.
[05:50] <arghx> celltech: lspci -nn|grep VGA
[05:51] <arghx> celltech: I know what it is. please run the command I gave you twice
[05:51] <Confoozled> er..what is the command exactly?
[05:51] <Spaceghost> Also I can't actually uninstall wubi or ubuntu for try it again
[05:51] <nac-godfather> I guess firefox amd64 7.0.1 (at least) doesn't like symlinks at all.  Now all my plugins are detected and working!  Sweet!
[05:51] <costas> hello. does anyone here have experience playing .m2ts 60i files (panasonic tm700) smoothly on ubuntu???
[05:51] <celltech> I am
[05:51] <Spaceghost> I have a folder which requires 8gb of space, and I don't know if the better will be erase it manually.
[05:51] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo fdisk -l  andpastebin the output
[05:51] <Math^> arghx: I've to install catalyst again, should I just place [catalyst] and [xorg110] in my pacman.conf, or go for the AUR?
[05:51] <arghx> Confoozled: unless you use wubi
[05:51] <celltech> Yes sir now what?
[05:51] <Spaceghost> Because there will be another program files there by sure.
[05:52] <arghx> Math^: what is "pacman.conf"?
[05:52] <firelord42> Spaceghost: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[05:52] <Spaceghost> And the uninstall through Windows Uninstaller doesn't work well, it shows an error that a file didn't find.
[05:52] <Confoozled> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:52] <Spaceghost> What Do I do?
[05:52] <Math^> arghx: oh shit, I'm talking in ubuntu
[05:52] <Math^> lol
[05:52] <joshua__> What is the entire command to add my user to the vboxusers group?
[05:53] <firelord42> Spaceghost: what about teh uninstall-ubuntu.exe on the page i linked?
[05:53] <Math^> arghx: sorry thought I was in archlinux
[05:53] <costas> hello. does anyone here have experience playing .m2ts 60i files (panasonic tm700) smoothly on ubuntu???
[05:53] <Confoozled> arghx: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:54] <arghx> Confoozled: I told you what to do
[05:54] <Math^> arghx: anyways, I'll install it again, and pastebin the xorg log :)
[05:54] <celltech> I ran the command. Now what do I do?
[05:54] <zoon> i accidentally clicked gnome-session after upgraded to oneiric, now i have no icons or the sexy black bar!
[05:54] <Confoozled> arghx er...I did that
[05:54] <zoon> help anyone?
[05:54] <Confoozled> that is what happened
[05:54] <arghx> celltech: you put the output into a pastebin
[05:55] <Spaceghost> I am reading.
[05:55] <celltech> Want me to paste it in here?
[05:55] <Confoozled> arghx or did I do something wrong
[05:55] <arghx> Confoozled: no it did not.
[05:55] <arghx> !paste | celltech
[05:55] <arghx> Confoozled: pastebin the command you used and its output please
[05:55] <costas> anyone have problems win WINFF in ubuntu 11.10?? I can't get it to work..........
[05:56] <bazhang> costas, to accomplish what
[05:56] <zoon> anyone knows how to change the these in unity?
[05:56] <Confoozled> arghx: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -l                   fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:56] <celltech> Pasted
[05:56] <zoon> THEME, sorry
[05:57] <firelord42> costas: what is it doing or failing to work on? have you tried the commands with ffmpeg on the command line?
[05:57] <arghx> Confoozled: this is the wrong command and not the one I gave you. fdisk
[05:57] <arghx> celltech: and the url is?
[05:57] <celltech> http://paste.ubuntu.com/713891/
[05:57] <Confoozled> er sorry
[05:57] <costas> bazhang, it doensn't do anything. I put a file to convert and it says that it's the wrong size or "m4v" is not supported!
[05:57] <arghx> celltech: afaik this one is too old for unity
[05:58] <bazhang> costas, why not use handbrake if you are trying to convert something
[05:58] <Confoozled> arghx should I just paste the whole thing in here now?
[05:58] <nnfx> prixaplan is spamming
[05:58] <DistantStar> Happy Birthday Ubuntu on its 7th year. :)
[05:58] <celltech> Hmm. It was working just fine till I uninstalled libimobile and it wiped the drivers from 11.04
[05:58] <arghx> !paste | Confoozled
[05:58] <celltech> Anything I can do about that? Revert to 11.04 and get my drivers and stuff back?
[05:58] <costas> bazhang, i'll give it a try, thanks!
[05:59] <arghx> celltech: the drivers are part of xorg itself. you cannot "wipe" them. pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:59] <Moodles> how do i set xfce4 to autologin with lightdm instead of gnome/unity?
[05:59] <Space> firelord42: that was the one that I tried.
[05:59] <celltech> ... permission denied?
[05:59] <Space> And it didn't work, it shows an error, maybe I could paste it if it could help-
[06:00] <costas> firelord42, sorry :) . It seems that ffmpeg is not installed correctly in my ubuntu , It's not an upgrade
[06:00] <Confoozled> Did that work?
[06:00] <firelord42> Space == Spaceghost?
[06:00] <Space> Damn, guys, I am really having a headache trying to install any distro here, in this laptop, I can't do it neither with Wubi actually.
[06:00] <Space> Yes, sorry.
[06:00] <arghx> Confoozled: put it in a pastebin and tell us the URL
[06:00] <firelord42> costas: you can can try re-installing the ffmpeg package
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Moodles: if you log in to xfce, it should remember the last session you used
[06:00] <Space> I had a disconnect.
[06:00] <firelord42> costas: or you could (if you feel darring) recompile ffmpeg :P
[06:01] <sim-paf> hi there
[06:01] <firelord42> Space: so you tried the remover and it didnt work?
[06:01] <Math^> arghx: ok, I've installed catalyst again with radeon module, black screen again... will pastebin my xorg log
[06:01] <costas> firelord42, do you mean to compile, or just reinstall ffmpeg and x264 from package manager? which is the best option to work?
[06:01] <sim-paf> can anyone help me installing ati driver with ubuntu oneric
[06:01] <zoon> guys, seriously need some help about the unity theme. it's been confusing. I normally use awesome window manager with the gnome theme but this new upgrade messed gnome. I am trying to get gnome back but ended up breaking unity simply by running gnome-session in a terminal. does anyone know how to change themes? Right now I have lost a lot of icons. hopefully i don't have to do xorgconf...
[06:01] <sim-paf> ??
[06:01] <arghx> !fglrx | sim-paf
[06:01] <Confoozled> I pasted it into paste.ubuntu.com/713893
[06:01] <Space> firelord42: yes, it didn't work.
[06:01] <firelord42> costas: try reinstalling ffmpeg and x264, that would probably be the best option
[06:02] <Space> And I am just trying to remove it because the Wubi's installation didn't work.
[06:02] <tziOm> Couple quick questions: what would be the version to install in prod env atm? 10.04? and: Does it exist a tool (cli/gui) to make a packagelist on what to be installed (for automating installation a little)?
[06:02] <costas> firelord42, thanks, I'll try it
[06:02] <Space> It's so weird.
[06:02] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[06:02] <firelord42> Space, okay, how good is your windows knowledge? 0.o
[06:02] <Space> It starts in the 10.4 version while I downloaded the 11.10.
[06:02] <arghx> tziOm: fai is what you want
[06:02] <Space> and it starts like the live cd, I mean, it just let me do some things and show the option for install it mainly.
[06:03] <KG> I just bought a Epson N11 inkjet printer. Does this printer work with Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:03] <costas> anyone here from greece?
[06:03] <bazhang> kg check the linuxprinting.org website
[06:03] <bazhang> !gr | costas
[06:03] <Space> firelord42: quite enough, I didn't try other methods to uninstall it, should I go for use another way to uninstall it?
[06:03] <costas> thanks!
[06:03] <KG> Thank you
[06:03] <Confoozled> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) /dev/sda1: clean, 275027/29761536 files, 40561977/119024384 blocks
[06:03] <firelord42> Space: if it is enough to understand the manual uninstallation, go ahead and do that
[06:04] <tziOm> arghx: thanks. what about version?
[06:04] <arghx> tziOm: I'd use LTS aka 10.04 yes
[06:04] <zoon> uh, silence is very helpful thanks. shouldn't upgraded at all....
[06:04] <Space> firelord42: what what do you think about the other problem?
[06:04] <zee> Hi, which version of Ubuntu would be ideal for a old Pentium4 - 2.8Ghz, 1GB RAM, 80GB HDD ?
[06:04] <Space> is normal that when I installed 11.10 it starts in the 10.4 (LTS?
[06:05] <bazhang> zee, lubuntu
[06:05] <arghx> Space: no
[06:05] <firelord42> Space: give me a sec to read what it was, I am still getting used to this new irc client
[06:05] <Math^> arghx: http://pastie.org/2728043 (hope you can help me)
[06:05] <Space> and in the Windows boot there are two Ubuntu options, but both starts the 10.4 and requires the install, it requires make againt the partitions, etc.
[06:05] <arghx> Confoozled: when your booting fails, there is another error before the one you told us. we need the first error. not the last line
[06:06] <Space> Oh, wait, I could uninstall it finally, the error doesn't appear again.
[06:06] <Confoozled> arghx: well, ok
[06:06] <Space> now I am thinking in try with the Alternate iso
[06:06] <span89> Can you get rid of the keyring in Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:06] <Confoozled> arghx:  I wrote everything it says
[06:06] <firelord42> Space: if wubi is giving you trouble, you could let your windows do a defragment and then shirnk your windows partition and install it in a seperate partition
[06:06] <zoon> let me try again, does anyone here successfully installed gnome in addition to ununtu unity. if so, what should I do?
[06:07] <Space> In the past I tried with the official i386 live cd iso, now I will try with the amd 64 alternate iso.
[06:07] <Space> firelord42: I tried it in the past, and I had another problems, more hardly
[06:07] <bazhang> zoon, what do you mean by 'gnome' and what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:07] <firelord42> Space: the live one should be fine, it will be harder to handle reparititioning with the alternate if you are not used to linux or command line tools
[06:07] <tziOm> how can I get a list of installed packages?
[06:07] <firelord42> Space: what problems?
[06:07] <Space> about boots, maybe my laptop is a bit weird in boot them.
[06:07] <bazhang> tziOm, dpkg -l
[06:08] <Confoozled> arghx: you did see I gave you both messages....failed to spawn ureadahead _and_ Filesystem check or mount failed
[06:08] <arghx> Math^: radeon driver works fine as it should
[06:08] <firelord42> Space: interesting, what laptop do you have?
[06:08] <arghx> Confoozled: are those the _only_ ones?
[06:08] <Space> asus u81a
[06:08] <tziOm> bazhang: can I use that list to install other machine?
[06:08] <zee> bazhang: lubuntu 11.10 or the earlier version? Would Ubuntu 10.04 LTS work on my old P4?
[06:08] <Math^> arghx: yes, but my screen goes black, or better said off
[06:08] <arghx> zee: will work fine
[06:08] <bazhang> !clone | tziOm you mean this?
[06:09] <Confoozled> arghx: should I try again? would one disappear real quick before that came up?
[06:09] <arghx> Math^: I suggest to boot to console and use startx to start X11
[06:09] <zoon> bazhang, thanks for reply, i have just upgraded to 11.10 and my awesomewm theme failed because it was based on gnome. I gathered that ubuntu is solely supporty unity now instead of gnome. While I am trying to re-install gnome even unity's theme failed. I have lost most of the icons and config...
[06:09] <Math^> arghx: I'll try that
[06:09] <Confoozled> arghx: because that was the message and then it didnt go further
[06:09] <Math^> arghx: wait, that isn't working either
[06:09] <firelord42> Space: biggest issue i see is an lcd brightness bug. if you do choose to use the alternate disks, i recommend you do your repartitioning first though
[06:09] <span89> How do you move app icons up/down the side-panel in 11.10?
[06:09] <bazhang> zoon, you mean something similar to 'classic' in 11.04?
[06:09] <arghx> Confoozled: "mount"
[06:09] <firelord42> Space: the partitioner on the live cd is a bit more friendly
[06:09] <sim-paf> building pkg from ati for ati radeon i m getting some error can someone help me out
[06:10] <Math^> arghx: startx or startxfce4 gives the same thing
[06:10] <gadams> Anyone with 11.10 notice their laptop screens refresh to super high contrast when unplugged?
[06:10] <arghx> sim-paf: use the ubuntu packages
[06:10] <Math^> arghx: I think there's something wrong with my screen settings in xorg.conf
[06:10] <Space> firelord42: the interested of this laptop is that have two power one buttons, with one of them starts Windows and with the other a Linux based system but very reduced, I don't remember exactly, but I saw there that there were people who could replace the boot of that system by Ubuntu.
[06:10] <arghx> Math^: ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo
[06:10] <bazhang> !notunity | zoon you mean this perhaps?
[06:10] <arghx> Math^: you are not supposed to have a xorg.conf. none. nada
[06:11] <Confoozled> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713899/
[06:11] <Math^> arghx: eh not even with catalyst?
[06:11] <Space> firelord42: I would like try with Wubi first, defrag and back up all could take me a lot of time, and I would use it as soon as possible.
[06:11] <sa|obar0> hi guys
[06:11] <DoverOs> howz do you update to 12?
[06:11] <tziOm>  aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed|?automatic'
[06:11] <tziOm> E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression
[06:11] <zoon> bazhang, yes, but I am not in particular looking for "classic" in 11.04 to run. I would like to 1. get my "Ubuntu" back to normal and 2. get my "awesome" to work.
[06:11] <bazhang> DoverOs, you dont
[06:11] <arghx> Math^: with fglrx you need one, but not with radeon
[06:12] <Agu10> I'm trying to use the cube with unity in ubuntu 11.10...
[06:12] <sa|obar0> anyone now wich packages can i download to bt5 android phone?
[06:12] <Agu10> how am i supposed to activate it?
[06:12] <DoverOs> bazhang: aw, so you gotta do some funky stuff huh
[06:12] <zoon> bazhang, does the "Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu2D" still use gnome?
[06:12] <bazhang> sa|obar0, bt5 is not supported here; #backtrack-linux for that
[06:12] <Math^> arghx: I've removed my xorg.conf, and can't log in with X now
[06:12] <Math^> Fatal error: no screens found
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> zoon: yes, both use gnome
[06:13] <sa|obar0> ty m8 :)
[06:13] <bazhang> DoverOs, #ubuntu+1 but it's way too early
[06:13] <DoverOs> bazhang: so liek, stuff would barely work xD
[06:13] <arghx> Confoozled: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt;sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/dev;sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/proc;sudo chroot /mnt
[06:13] <bazhang> DoverOs, check that channel for 12.04 please
[06:14] <arghx> Math^: then check your Xorg.0.log again. should be errors there
[06:14] <zoon> ActionParsnip: thanks. that was confusion no. 1. also do you know why all the aperance went away after I ran gnome-session in a shell?
[06:14] <firelord42> Space: okay, i guess try wubi again xD
[06:14] <Space> firelord42: my touchpad doesn't work at the boot, I must use an external mouse meanwhile, but I think that I could solve it then, right?
[06:14] <Math^> arghx: http://pastie.org/2728043
[06:14] <arghx> Math^: and I still wait for the ls command output
[06:14] <Math^> arghx: hold on :)
[06:14] <Math^> have to type over everytime
[06:14] <Space> I mean, at the live cd boot of whatever
[06:14] <Space> sorry for my English.
[06:15] <Confoozled> arghx: and now?
[06:15] <arghx> Math^: this is the exact smae file you pasted earlier
[06:15] <Space> oh
[06:15] <Space> damn
[06:15] <arghx> Confoozled: you have a "#" prompt now?
[06:15] <Math^> arghx: yes
[06:15] <Space> isn't Wubi at the Alternate CD?
[06:15] <Confoozled> arghx yes
[06:15] <Math^> arghx: I don't have this file
[06:15] <arghx> Confoozled: update-initramfs
[06:16] <firelord42> Space: wubi is not on the alternate cd as far as i know, alternate cd is alternate cd, it basically builds a ubuntu system from the ground up, package by package
[06:16] <zoon> is there any place to edit ubuntu's appearnce other than systemsettings->appearance
[06:16] <firelord42> Space: its a completely different way of packaging linux
[06:16] <arghx> Confoozled: that will recreate your initrd, which runs when the error happens. it might have gotten corrupted. otherwise I'm not sure what it could be
[06:16] <Space> firelord42: but can I use the wubi in the live cd for install the Alternate CD?
[06:16] <Confoozled> arghx wants me to specify
[06:16] <arghx> Confoozled: wants to specify what?
[06:17] <Confoozled> arghx: -c -u or -d
[06:17] <firelord42> Space: you cannot use the alternate install for a wubi install, alternate install will require repartitioning
[06:17] <Space> oh, damn
[06:17] <firelord42> Space:  this may ahve more info on your touchpad issue, i know it says dell but i think it is a similar componet
[06:17] <Space> Well, I will try again with the i386 live cd.
[06:17] <tziOm> did aptitute have different search easlier=
[06:17] <firelord42> Space: helps if i give link, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/512192?comments=all
[06:17] <firelord42> uh, ubottu, thats a new feature, how long have you done that?
[06:18] <arghx> Confoozled: use -u
[06:18] <zoon> man this is frustrating....been using ubuntu since Feisty and now it breaks.......
[06:18] <Space> my laptop could works better with a 64 bits version, but maybe the 32 bits could help me in saving disk space.
[06:18] <tziOm>  aptitude search '?installed' results in: E: Regex compilation error: Invalid preceding regular expression
[06:18] <arghx> Confoozled: scratch that. use -c to create a new one from scratch
[06:18] <Math^> arghx: I'll ask in archlinux, think people need you in here for Ubuntu probs. :)
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx:  alkready using -u
[06:19] <arghx> Space: unless you have >4GB RAM, 32bit is fine
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx: do it twice?
[06:19] <arghx> Math^: are you running arch or ubuntu?
[06:19] <Space> I have exactly 4GB.
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: Arch
[06:19] <arghx> Confoozled: no problem you can run it again
[06:19] <arghx> Math^: then go away
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: I was typing in the wrong channel, sorry
[06:19] <Math^> arghx: lol
[06:19] <Space> The bad is that the Windows 32 bits only recognizes 3 GB of RAM, but I have read that it doesn't happen with Linux.
[06:19] <Confoozled> arghx: does this take a while?
[06:19] <zoon> anyone uses awesome window manager?
[06:20] <zoon> aweful
[06:20] <arghx> Confoozled: not too long normally. it puts a few scripts and some kernel modules into a single archive, that's all
[06:20] <firelord42> Space: linux sometimes ignores some of it i have noticed, but that could also be my shared video memory on that computer :P
[06:21] <Confoozled> arghx:  says Generating now...it will tell me when its done, right?
[06:21] <arghx> yes, you will come back to the # prompt
[06:21] <dai> woot hey
[06:21] <arghx> when it's done, try to reboot
[06:21] <bignono1> hello , i have 11.10 and win 7 on a lapy , need to degrade to 11.10 remix without unity please advise
[06:21] <Confoozled> good.  I really need a smoke
[06:21] <Space> Does anyone here use Smuxi?
[06:22] <dai> could someone tell me how do you scroll in the terminal?
[06:22] <arghx> !notunity | bignono1
[06:22] <Space> I didn't like XChat enough, now I liked pidgin but the IRC's version is plenty of errors and incomplete.
[06:22] <arghx> dai: shift+pgup?
[06:22] <bignono1> yes nounity
[06:23] <arghx> bignono1: ubottu just told you. read it
[06:23] <dai> i tried that, there's too much data for the terminal to show so it won't scroll
[06:23] <Space> Smuxi looks quite interesting, the only bad that its translation is terrible, but there aren't many things to translate, maybe I could translate it for myself.
[06:23] <Moodles> is there a way to list all available sessions to login with (ubuntu, gnome-classic etc)? i want to find out the name for my xfce4 session
[06:23] <ZooMonkey> Are there any plans for a build for openbravo-3 in Ubuntu Oneiric ??? Does anyone know?
[06:23] <Space> Well, reinstall finished.
[06:23] <firelord42> Space: you can always use irssi :P
[06:23] <bignono1> just a command?
[06:23] <Space> firelord42: now I will restart for see if it works.
[06:23] <Space> Hope me luck.
[06:23] <bignono1> nounity?
[06:23] <firelord42> Space: if you suddenly get the urge to go command line IRC :P
[06:23] <arghx> ZooMonkey: oneiric is released. there won't be new packages for it
[06:24] <dai> are there other commands to scroll in terminal?
[06:24] <ZooMonkey> arghx: Should I try a package from the 11.04 repo, I wonder
[06:24] <SunTsu> dai: use screen ;)
[06:25] <arghx> ZooMonkey: you can try. it's unsupported
[06:25] <dai> sun, what do you mean?
[06:25] <arghx> dai: apt-cache show screen
[06:26] <bhavesh> Is there a way to make gnome-session-fallback exactly like Ubutun 10.10 classic desktop?
[06:26] <SunTsu> d: screen is a terminal multiplexer which is able to scroll back. but aside from that: you can pipe your command's output into less and scroll to your heart's content
[06:26] <bhavesh> the top left Ubuntu icon is no more.. also there's no system tab :( :(
[06:26] <arghx> bhavesh: no. cause there is no gnome2 anymore
[06:26] <SunTsu> $command | less
[06:27] <brandonc503> how do find the current permisions on a directory?
[06:27] <arghx> brandonc503: ls -l <path>
[06:27] <brandonc503> thanks much
[06:27] <SunTsu> brandonc503: ls -ld $path
[06:28] <faraway> i'm running ubuntu in as a guest OS in virtual box. i got NAT working on eth1 but connection via my static ip on eth0 doesn't work … does anyone know how i could trac down the problem (i don't know it i have a config problem on ubuntu side, or on the host, the vbox config seems - imho - to be ok)
[06:28] <Confoozled> arghx: requires version argument
[06:28] <ZooMonkey> arghx: Actually, ironically I think I maybe just found my solution! I should goto 10.04 !!! :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[06:28] <SunTsu> brandonc503: don't forget the "-d" else you will see the directory's content
[06:28] <arghx> Confoozled: -c -k all
[06:28] <dai> @arghx,suntsu, apt-cache show screen is an app that splits the terminal into several windows?
[06:29] <arghx> dai: among other things, yes
[06:30] <Confoozled> arghx: E: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/fixrtc failed with return 1. update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-30-generic-pae
[06:30] <SunTsu> dai: yes, that and it allows you to detach and resume terminal sessions as well als scroll around in your terminal's history, copy/paste from it, create logs and so on
[06:30] <arghx> Confoozled: are you running 10.04?
[06:30] <Polah> dai: The package is just called 'screen'
[06:31] <arghx> Confoozled: is that ALL of the output?
[06:31] <Confoozled> arghx: 10.10
[06:31] <Confoozled> arghx: yes
[06:32] <SunTsu> Wow, I just found something that actually works better with oneiric than it did with maverick: NetworkManager actually works for me now
[06:32] <arghx> SunTsu: praise the Lord and sacrfice a goat!
[06:32] <firelord42> SunTsu: the applet? yeah, its picked up everything perfectly this time around for me :P
[06:33] <SunTsu> arghx: I already sacrificed my hbci and my boot process, I think that's enough already
[06:33] <SunTsu> firelord42: yeah, and it's openvpn module can import and export openvpn configs which is great
[06:34] <dai> hmm its already installed...now i gotta find where it is.. lol
[06:34] <firelord42> SunTsu: orly? I will have some fun with that later this week.
[06:34] <ZooMonkey> Sometimes it just takes that IRC trip to figure it out. Peace out yall
[06:34] <dai> arghx,suntsu anyidea where screen is and how do i start it?
[06:34] <SunTsu> dai: just run "screen" - but make sure to read about it, it's the vi of terminal multiplexers
[06:35] <Datsun> Have just installed netbeans on my new Ubuntu 10.11 install to do some php development.  Netbeans wants to store projects in /home/username, but I think they should be under /var/www.  Does that sound right?
[06:35] <bhavesh> And I guess the keep aligned bug from 10.10 is fixed too
[06:35] <bhavesh> 10.11?
[06:35] <arghx> dai: you install it with apt-get and then simply run "screen"
[06:35] <Polah> dai: Install it through apt-get then run screen
[06:35] <nac-godfather> Here's an idea, if a linux application's source package has multiple compiling options that users might wanna use; then make them available as options when installing via deb or apt.  Otherwise us ubuntu users have to deal with a giant dependency mess, every godamn time we want to compile a newer version of a package from source.
[06:35] <nac-godfather> NO?
[06:35] <Polah> dai: Read the man page first.
[06:35] <dai> i checked on synaptic package manager and its already installed
[06:36] <Polah> dai: Just look at the manual and run it then
[06:36] <arghx> Confoozled: sorry I don't know why this error happens :( do you have a initrd? ls -l /boot/initr*  should give you one for your 2.6.35 kernel
[06:36] <nac-godfather> If I wanna run my goddamn vlc player as root, that's my right!  I don't wanna have to recompile X11 from source in order to do so...
[06:36] <tziOm> is there any way to have a resolv.conf.tail in 11.04 ?
[06:36] <demonspork> nac-godfather: apt doesn't compile the application, apt only helps you to install precompiled applications, so someone would have to make an apt with each possible compile time configuration to accomplish what you are suggesting
[06:37] <tziOm> I want to add search ..
[06:37] <arghx> nac-godfather: please create your own distro. have a nice day and good luck
[06:37] <nac-godfather> I plan on it.
[06:37] <arghx> tziOm: what does resolv.conf.tail do?
[06:37] <Polah> nac-godfather, don't see why you'd need to recompile all your X packages to run VLC as root. Or why for whatever reason you need to run it as root...
[06:37] <orated> Since Canonical no longer supports Sun Java on Oneiric, should Canonical archives for lucid/maverick be used to install sun-java-* packages?
[06:37] <dimas_> Hello !!!
[06:37] <Confoozled> arghx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713914/
[06:37] <arghx> orated: oracle doesn't allow canonical to ship their java
[06:37] <tziOm> arghx: adds to end of resolv.ocnf
[06:37] <firelord42> nac-godfather: i do not see why you need to recompile X to run VLC as root as well... maybe i am out of date on the security stuff in X
[06:38] <Datsun> nac-godfather seems to have got the message.  Now, what about Datsun's question???
[06:38] <nac-godfather> because libav is not new enough, then xcb wasn't new enough, then I needed to get libX11 newer in order to get the newer xcb
[06:38] <arghx> Confoozled: then try to boot. and have you tried all of your 4 kernels and they all give the same error when booting?
[06:38] <arghx> nac-godfather: did you recompiled vlc source that your got with apt-get source vlc?
[06:38] <orated> arghx: So you mean even if I sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner”; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts, I won't be able to use Jave from archives?
[06:39] <firelord42> nac-godfather: but why would that mean you cannot run vlc as root?
[06:39] <brandonc503> how do i see the permissions of all files in a folder?
[06:39] <Datsun> anyone?
[06:39] <nac-godfather> Well, we could all just allow packages to be run as root and not block that aspect, I don't know why that's been started over the past year or so, but it's getting pretty popular in deb packages.
[06:39] <arghx> orated: it will work I guess
[06:39] <Confoozled> arghx:  no....just the first one and then the ...uh... whats it called... something mode
[06:39] <orated> arghx: $(lsb_release -sc) natty/lucid/maverick I mean*
[06:40] <arghx> Confoozled: try the other ones too (imho)
[06:40] <Polah> Datsun: Look through your Netbeans settings for where it stores files by default, or choose to save the project wherever you want
[06:40] <Confoozled> ok
[06:40] <firelord42> Datsun: the /home folder seems like a fine place to me, but I do not do php devel
[06:40] <arghx> orated: it might work but is totally unsupported
[06:40] <firelord42> Datsun: *the home folder path
[06:40] <nac-godfather> arghx, no, actually that's a real quick way to get the exact source of the version I need though, thank you very much!
[06:40] <Confoozled> arghx:  thanks...ill be back if it doesnt work
[06:40] <nac-godfather> saves my issue for now, whoohoo!
[06:41] <arghx> Datsun: development is /home/user, yes. only deployment is to /var/www/
[06:41] <Datsun> Ok, so if I develop in /home/user, how do I get my web server to see so I can test it?
[06:42] <arghx> Datsun: you deploy it
[06:44] <orated> arghx: Otherwise I can compile Sun Java from source, right? Could you please link me to a documentation for the same?
[06:44] <Datsun> arghx: thanks.  I have been working on a windows machine without any vcs.  If I am going to be deploying to test that regularly, I should probably use a vcs?  Yes?
[06:44] <francesi82> ciao
[06:45] <francesi82> #ubuntu
[06:45] <francesi82> ciao
[06:45] <arghx> orated: you can download binaries from oracle.com for java7
[06:45] <arghx> Datsun: not necessarily. your choice
[06:46] <Datsun> arghx: so, if I wasn't using a vcs, would I just copy the files from dev to test as required?
[06:46] <orated> ok thanks arghx
[06:46] <francesi82> ciao arghx
[06:47] <arghx> Datsun: no. from http://netbeans.org/features/php/ : PHP projects can easily be deployed from within NetBeans IDE for testing to local or remote servers via FTP or SFTP, or by the use of an upload script for more complex deployments.
[06:47] <nac-godfather> anyone here wanna provide me the lucid sources.list file /standard
[06:47] <Datsun> Thanks arghx.
[06:48] <kriss_> Hi everyone. Ive installed GDM as login manager again since lightdm keeps listing every user logged in. Thats not really working for me. But i need to have GDM (in ubuntu 11.10) select Gnome Classic as the default x session.. How do i do that ? i used to have a GUI in old gnome but thats not there anymore
[06:48] <bazhang> !notunity | kriss_
[06:48] <bazhang> kriss_, classic is gone, try the alternative if you wish
[06:49] <kriss_> well i can select classic manual in GDM.. i just needs it to be the default for every user which logs in
[06:49] <kriss_> but ill try te gnome panel
[06:49] <firelord42> nac-godfather: i just found this, do not know if it works, but it will spit out a sources list http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[06:49] <milind> hi .. gnome 3.2 always logs in to classic mode without graphics ... I can see compositing effects in Unity and KDE though ...
[06:50] <keith_linux123> whats the ubuntu off topic channel ?
[06:50] <bazhang> !ot | keith_linux123
[06:52] <bhavesh> what if sudo rm -rf /* is hidden inside a script?
[06:52] <kriss_> bazhang do you know what the GUI is called in english where you can tell GDM which kind of X session you want as default (such as gnome classic) ?
[06:52] <bhavesh> wont it destroy the whole system?
[06:53] <psycho_oreos> if its executed as root, yes
[06:53] <milind> does any one have gnome 3.2 working in ubuntu 11.10
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: then you have a problem
[06:53] <kriss_> milind i have gnome running with classic yes.
[06:54] <_-XPERT-_> milind: Yep got it working but no screen saver or lock
[06:54] <milind> grt .. i have desktop effects running on unity and kde but not on gnome 3.2
[06:54] <milind> i want to resolve this ... I wanted to check xorg.conf but could not find it in /etc/X11
[06:54] <tziOm> I cannot make /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail work. its 11.04 (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man8/resolvconf.8.html)
[06:55] <kriss_> -_XPERT-_ lock as in lock the screen ?? Thats working just fine here.. Ive set it to the same keys as Windows (Windows-key + L)
[06:55] <milind> how can i confirm if I am using the hardware accelerated version of the driver and not the VESA one ?
[06:56] <kriss_> Anyone know what the GUI for telling GDM to use gnome classic as default when logging in is called in english ? Its not there anymore (even after installing gdm)
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> _-XPERT-_: I've seen a guide online, top things to do after installing oneiric. Shows to to install screensaver and enable lock. Might have been on webupd8 but my brain is too tired to remember
[06:57] <milind> @kriss_ ... doesn't GDM remember the last choice you make ...unless u change it ..
[06:58] <kriss_> milind perhaps. But the problem is that i want every new user to use gnome classic as default
[06:58] <kriss_> not this unity <profanity words used here>
[06:59] <milind> oh ok .. may be there is a config file
[06:59] <kriss_> yeah.. In old gnome there used to be a program which easily lets me change this to classic and it would "suggest" this as default for all users.
[07:00] <kriss_> thats what i like. I just dont know the english name for it.. Basicly id be a happy camper if i could just get the old gnome back.
[07:01] <milind> ya me too
[07:01] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi guys can anybody suggest a good software to create interactive maps? im on a uni project and have to create the map of a city in which i can put images of monuments and attractions that work like links to .odt or .xcf files
[07:02] <kriss_> I was SO happy when i found that setting up 11.10 for domain and assume default domain AND having shortcuts to the users windows server share was easy.. Except now i have like a ton of changes to do just to make the system usable at all.
[07:03] <tdawg> anybody know how to replace the current upower with an earlier version? it's constantly running my cpu at 100%
[07:03] <jayant> howdy, i am new to ubuntu. and i have plenty of quesitons. can someone help me by answering those please...thanks
[07:03] <bhavesh> kriss_ I guess im goin to downgrade my Ubuntu to 10.10 soon.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> jayant: ask away. We're all listening
[07:05] <jayant> i using ubuntu software center while suddenly my touchpad stopped working.(although it's light is still on). I had to connect a usb mouse. Is there some shortcut key that did it..or is it some other problem that will get fixed when i restart?
[07:05] <kriss_> bhavesh id wish i could go down to 10.04 too as its LTS but alas.. Id have to downgrade all the way to 9.10 just to be able to set it up for domain with windows shares.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> jayant: more than likely, yes
[07:06] <jayant> ActionParsnip: yes for shortcut key, or yes about restarting?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> jayant: restart will reload the driver module
[07:06] <milind> kriss_  ..this might be helpful ...
[07:07] <milind> http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en
[07:07] <kriss_> sweet. thanks
[07:07] <jayant> ActionParsnip: ok..thanks
[07:07] <nac-godfather> Nice link firelord42,
[07:08] <milind> does any one know the location of the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 11.10
[07:08] <milind> ?
[07:08] <tdawg> anybody know how to replace the current upower with an earlier version? it's constantly running my cpu at 100% I have a .deb of an earlier version, but can't install it in the software center
[07:09] <jayant> I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F2  and it opened up the terminal. but how do i get back to where i was from that screen ?
[07:10] <popey> jayant: CTRL+ALT+F7
[07:10] <jayant> @popey: thanks
[07:10] <tonysan_> Are there some tools like htop which can monitor IO rates in realtime?
[07:10] <bazhang> tonysan_, iotop?
[07:11] <msepsis> milind - "locate xorg.conf"
[07:11] <jayant> the shortcut key read that it is for "vitual terminal". What is it exactly? how is it different from normal terminal. i googled it, but it just bounces off my head :-)
[07:12] <msepsis> it should be in /etc/X11, maybe they moved it or it's finally fully no longer used
[07:12] <popey> tonysan_: iostat
[07:12] <popey> jayant: CTRL+ALT+T
[07:12] <SwedeMike> milind: non-existing xorg.conf means it runs on default. xorg.conf has seen less use the past few years.
[07:12] <popey> jayant: not sure that keyboard combo is set by default anymore
[07:12] <Calinou> it is...
[07:12] <milind> msepsis I tried that and I get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/713934/
[07:12] <jayant> popey: thanks....but what is the difference between these 2 terminals
[07:13] <Calinou> at least I think
[07:13] <sagarchalise> tdawg, sudo dpkg -i pathtodeb package I guess
[07:13] <popey> jayant: functionally wise, not much
[07:13] <tonysan_> popey: could iostat continunosly monitor?
[07:13] <Calinou> almost none. both work same, just the screen is not the same
[07:13] <jayant> popey: i guess it is, because it works on mine and i installed ubuntu yesterday :)
[07:13] <popey> tonysan_: yeah, iostat can refresh every second
[07:13] <jayant> popey: why is it virtual?
[07:13] <popey> jayant: yay!
[07:13] <popey> jayant: its not a physical terminal on your physical desk I guess ☺
[07:14] <jayant> popey: what does that mean ?
[07:14] <popey> tonysan_: depends what you're trying to monitor
[07:14] <jayant> popey: you mean desk or disk ?
[07:14] <popey> jayant: terminals used to be physical boxes on your desk
[07:14] <milind> SwedeMike  thnks .. How can I figure out if I am using the vesa version or the hardware accelerated version of the driver..
[07:14] <msepsis> miland those are just templates, and what SwedeMike said
[07:14] <milind> msepsis .. thnks
[07:15] <jayant> popey: haha...ok...i thought that the terminal with ctrl+alt+F2 is a virtual one while the one with ctrl+alt+T is not
[07:15] <milind> because  I always login to the fallback gnome 3.2 version without desktop effects
[07:16] <glassresistor> quick question, im trying to build a very quick backuo and restore system for ubuntu on ext4, the current system is a 500Gb ssd with ~200Gb on it, i want to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and switch to an encrypted lvm
[07:16] <msepsis> milind... far as i know/understand if you dont have an xorg.conf you definitely aren't using any accelerated drivers, as that's where they'd be defined (xorg.conf)
[07:17] <glassresistor> firstly is it dumb to use an encrypted fs on a MLC ssd the newest patriot pyro 550r/515w
[07:17] <arghx> msepsis: you understand wrongly
[07:17] <popey> glassresistor: i dont think thats a dumb thing to do
[07:17] <arghx> glassresistor: why would it be dumb?
[07:17] <rhizmoe> dash search isn't finding some stuff it should...what does it run its index off of? is there something i can check is running?
[07:17] <yaron-heb> Whats the name of the Ubuntu translators channel?
[07:17] <jayant> there are plenty of working environments(i guess thats the right word) i came across randomly like gnome, compiz, beryl etc. how do i know which one i am using currently?
[07:17] <tapout> my usb3 external drive keeps powering down.  hdparm won't change the settings.  Anyone know how to disable it from powering down??
[07:18] <milind> because I had hardware acceleration with 11.04 .. my display adapter is intel gma which is well supported I believe
[07:18] <glassresistor> popey: read speed and lifetime of the drive, its a a 500$ drive and encrypted drives use the whole thing and spread out the data onto different blocks
[07:18] <popey> jayant: do you have a list of big buttons down the left hand side?
[07:18] <arghx> glassresistor: no they don't
[07:18] <jayant> poepy: yes
[07:18] <popey> jayant: unity
[07:18] <glassresistor> and so wouldn't that mean it would kill the drive faster?
[07:18] <popey> glassresistor: there is a lot of misinformation around the life of SSDs
[07:18] <jayant> popey: can i get a taskbar\panel in that
[07:18] <popey> glassresistor: take regular backups and get on with your life, if it fails, it fails.
[07:19] <arghx> glassresistor: every filesystem uses "the whole thing" and encrypted fs doesn't spread out the data to different locks
[07:19] <popey> jayant: dunno
[07:19] <arghx> *blocks
[07:19] <jayant> popey: or something else that has the list of all current running items?
[07:19] <msepsis> milind- yeah i don't know then.. I've always had and used NVIDIA cards and their drivers need to be referenced in xorg.conf
[07:19] <arghx> jayant: top shows all running processes, but I dunno if that's what you want
[07:19] <popey> jayant: i dont know, i just use unity as it is, running stuff has a little mark next to it
[07:19] <arghx> oh. you want a taskbar. sorry
[07:20] <jayant> arghx: do you mean the bar at the top?
[07:20] <glassresistor> arghx: im happy to hear that, explain? encryption should make your disk look like noise correct? and mlc's would die fastest if bit are flipped in an even distrobution?
[07:20] <arghx> jayant: ignore my comment
[07:20] <jayant> popey: yeah, but it's annoying when it goes back, and what if it fills up
[07:20] <arghx> glassresistor: no I don't explain. this is a ubuntu support channel. ask ##hardware or such
[07:20] <pc13> ada orang indo gak?
[07:20] <tapout> my usb3 external drive keeps powering down.  hdparm won't change the settings.  Anyone know how to disable it from powering down??
[07:20] <jayant> arghx: ok...thanks anyway
[07:20] <pc13> first time nih pake smuxi
[07:21] <arghx> !id | pc13
[07:21] <glassresistor> arghx: well that you anyways i was getting to the ubuntu part actually, which has to do with how im wanting to run do the backup
[07:21] <jayant> popey: how do i change stuff in that sidebar on the left?
[07:21] <iDorito> Hi, it's me, Linus Torvalds.
[07:21] <iDorito> I just came here to say... I'm sorry. I was wrong.
[07:21] <arghx> glassresistor: then ask a question which actually is a ubuntu problem
[07:22] <zagibu> iDorito: no problem, dude, we forgive you
[07:22] <iDorito> Thanks.
[07:22] <iDorito> Can we clear out the channel please? Everybody head over to #windows. Thanks.
[07:22] <pybit> iDork
[07:22] <iDorito> :(
[07:22] <vijvij> Hi I ran sudo apt-get build-dep firefox. This is the error http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Thanks for your help.
[07:23] <zagibu> i don't think so...everyone has to figure it out for themselves
[07:23] <arghx> iDorito: do you have a ubuntu related problem? if not, please be quiet. you can go to #defocus if you want to simply chat
[07:23] <conntrack> don't mind me
[07:23] <zagibu> it's kind of a spiritual thing
[07:23] <glassresistor> would installing 11.10 using virtualbox(no fs mounted) to install 11.10 on the new ssd work
[07:23] <iDorito> Aye aye sir.
[07:23] <jayant> how do i switch from unity to compiz?
[07:24] <arghx> glassresistor: depends how you set up your VM in vbox
[07:24] <sagarchalise> jayant, unity is a compiz plugin
[07:25] <jayant> sagarchalise: ahhh....thanks...but why is it not as cool as i see it on various websites?
[07:25] <glassresistor> and if so would it then be ok to take my current system run a distrobution upgrade, dump the package list and make a root.tar.xz.nc style encrypted backup of the / dir excluding special folders off /
[07:26] <mynotes> test
[07:26] <sagarchalise> jayant, install compizconfig-settings-manager with compiz-plugins and make it cool as you like
[07:26] <glassresistor> then on the new harddrive uppack the old root fs onto the newly insall base linux system work?
[07:26] <sagarchalise> jayant, what cool functionality do you need
[07:26] <arghx> glassresistor:please look into clonezilla
[07:27] <vijvij> Hi I ran sudo apt-get build-dep firefox. This is the error http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Thanks for your help.
[07:27] <jayant> sagarchalise: anything thats awesome and doesnt work really slow :-) I want to try a lot of stuff
[07:27] <glassresistor> arghx: clonezilla states on the front page it can't go from a larger to a smaller filesystem
[07:27] <arghx> glassresistor: and this is a problem how?
[07:28] <glassresistor> also wanting to perfect this so i can run hot standby rsync jobs throughout the week to gpg encrypted gips
[07:28] <sagarchalise> jayant, check out compiz plugins
[07:28] <conntrack> I'll guess from now on I'll get stupider and stupider if that possible lol
[07:28] <jayant> sagarchalise: i installed compizconfig-settings-manager and compiz-plugins was already installed and was to the newest version
[07:28] <jayant> sagarchalise: how do i use it? i mean, how do i access it's settings?
[07:29] <mkultra> i just fixed my grubs boot image if anyone wants the tutorial i drew up for ubuntu 11.10
[07:29] <sagarchalise> jayant, open up ccsm and enable the plugin you want to check out
[07:29] <glassresistor> i have a 500Gb hd and am moving to a 240Gb ssd, also want to upgrade the ubuntu release and move to an encrypted lvm since the ssd has the I/O speed to make the r/w loss due to encryption livable
[07:30] <kriss_> Am i the onlyone who cant seem to put icons on the desktop of gnome classic in 11.10 ?
[07:30] <jayant> sagarchalise: got it! Thanks a lot for all your help
[07:30] <mkultra> heh i specifically remove the icons from the desktop
[07:30] <mkultra> kriss do you have files for the icons in $HOME/Desktop?
[07:30] <Kartagis> http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/bar.png <--- how do I hide the bar on the left?
[07:31] <glassresistor> which is why i was asking is getting a complete copy of the root filesystem hidden files, perms, and timestamps included  and installing the bootloader and kernel with the server install cd
[07:31] <kriss_> mkultra hmm nope. No desktop in the home folder at all
[07:31] <mkultra> kartagis alt + f2 gksu synaptic / remove unity
[07:32] <mkultra> gksu synaptic run
[07:32] <mkultra> no /home/user folder?
[07:32] <Kartagis> thanks mkultra
[07:32] <kriss_> mkultra sure i have the users folder but no deskop icon or folder inside my users folder
[07:32] <glassresistor> hoping i could install the base system with grub etc. then copy over settings files etc. and some of my opts stuff then apt-get install everything from the pervious build
[07:32] <Daghdha> Hi, i have 10.04 my updater only lists 11.04, not 11.10
[07:32] <mkultra> someone said 11.10 doesnt have synaptic, apt-get install synaptic if you dont have it
[07:32] <Daghdha> Do i have to get 11.04 1st?
[07:33] <glassresistor> its kindov ambious but it seems like it should work
[07:33] <mkultra> i think so daghdha
[07:33] <mkultra> i did 11.04 to 11.10
[07:33] <kriss_> its right you dont have synaptics in 11.10
[07:33] <mkultra> id stick with 10.04 though to be honest
[07:33] <Daghdha> And what are the success rates for upgrading a 10.04 to 100.04?
[07:33] <Daghdha> Oh ok
[07:33] <Daghdha> Well i was only gonna upgrade if 11.x has newer mono
[07:33] <mkultra> so far ive ran into bug after bug on 11, and 10 was rather good about not being so buggy
[07:34] <glassresistor> has anyone had issues going from 11.04 to 11.10?
[07:34] <Daghdha> But i guess i can up mono in 10.x
[07:34] <jayant> sagarchalise: is there a master reset, or restore or something like that for ccsm?
[07:34] <mkultra> yeah id just keep pushing mono up by hand / repository ppa
[07:34] <Daghdha> repositorey ppa?
[07:34] <mkultra> no jayant, you gotta set all your ccsm by hand
[07:34] <Kartagis> Oct 20 10:30:01 vps CRON[3808]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc)
[07:34] <Kartagis> Oct 20 10:30:01 vps CRON[3807]: (CRON) error (grandchild #3808 failed with exit status 1) <--- what can I do about this?
[07:34] <sagarchalise> jayant, basically if you want to reset to default unity you do unity --reset
[07:35] <mkultra> yeah, repo ppa = someones launch pad pre built apt source
[07:35] <jayant> mkultra: sagarchalise: thanks
[07:35] <mkultra> be careful doing that, id almost rather build sources by hand than use other peoples PPAs unless its official like pidgin / virtualbox websites ppa 4 ubuntu
[07:35] <jayant> i tried setting it to wobbly windows, but it doesnt work!
[07:36] <mkultra> wobbly windows requires window movement for me
[07:36] <sagarchalise> jayant, try alt+f2 ccompiz --replace after enabling the plugin if it doesnot do it by default
[07:36] <mkultra> scroll down to window management and select "move window"
[07:36] <seneca> security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'  how do i get out of this
[07:36] <Daghdha> mkultra: Sorry, but i have no idea what you mean with repo ppa, i look for ppa in synaptic but nothing
[07:37] <mkultra> mono
[07:37] <mynotes> hello. I created a symbolic link on my file. the problem I can't see  sign  (-> ) like this on my terminal..even i run this command ls -al .i'm using ubuntu 10.10
[07:37] <jayant> sagarchalise: ok..thanks... does it have a cc in compiz or was it a typo?
[07:37] <mkultra> a ppa makes the repository synaptic default go away, and instead a site specific version of mono would pop up if it was newer than the base repo
[07:37] <mynotes> tried to look if the symbolic link is pointing on right file
[07:37] <seneca> security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.' how do i get out of this
[07:38] <mkultra> mynotes you probably did the symlink backwards
[07:38] <Daghdha> where can i find this mono ppa?
[07:38] <mkultra> should be ln -s /hard/copy/of/file   space    /where/u/want/link
[07:38] <jayant> sagarchalise: i did that, it refreshed all windows...but it still doesn't work
[07:39] <Daghdha> i always do links backwards, even in windows. It's contra-intuitive for my brain smehow :)
[07:39] <mkultra> https://launchpad.net/~mono-testing/+archive/ppa
[07:39] <mkultra> then it gives the line
[07:39] <mkultra> ppa:mono-testing/ppa
[07:39] <SunTsu> er, why the fword does initramfs' conf/conf.d/cryptroot contain the following: lvm=system-root,lvm=system - that of course will go down in flames
[07:39] <mynotes> mkultra: i think i issue a right command.
[07:39] <SunTsu> where does that lvm=system come from?
[07:40] <mkultra> mynotes cp a backup, then get fearless
[07:40] <Daghdha> https://launchpad.net/~mono-testing/+archive/ppa  <- is thaht the APT line for in Synaptic?
[07:40] <mkultra> so take file...   cp file file.backup
[07:40] <mkultra> then ln -s file /boot/virus
[07:40] <mkultra> then stat /boot/virus
[07:41] <mkultra> no the ppa line is the apt line
[07:41] <mkultra> ppa:mono-testing/ppa
[07:41] <mynotes> mkultra: i run the same I got file exists
[07:41] <jayant> I turned on all the effects available in ccsm and then did "compiz --replace" but still nothing changed. no water effect, no wobbly windows :(
[07:41] <mkultra> thats only example 4 you daghdha
[07:41] <iuytfr> hello there
[07:42] <mkultra> then ls -al /boot/virus should give arrow directing back to original
[07:42] <mkultra> hi
[07:42] <netxshare> I am wondering if there is anyway I can use a drive that has data on but it's filesystem id is 8e (LVM)
[07:42] <kriss_> mkultra: do you happen to know how to place a simple shortcut to say Firefox on the damn desktop ?
[07:42] <mynotes> mkultra: but when I run ls -al no arrow
[07:42] <mkultra> yes kriss
[07:42] <kriss_> on gnome classic that it
[07:42] <kriss_> is.
[07:42]  * Daghdha sighs
[07:43] <mkultra> it would be ln -s /usr/bin/firefox $HOME/desktop
[07:43] <mkultra> ekkk
[07:43] <mkultra> ln -s /usr/bin/firefox $HOME/Desktop
[07:43] <kriss_> hmm thanks.
[07:43] <iuytfr> hi to determine the version of bit on ubuntu server ?
[07:43] <mkultra> 2nd one
[07:43] <mkultra> hang on 2 seconds versions gonna take a moment
[07:44] <sagarchalise> jayant, ctrl+super initiates water effect
[07:44] <kriss_> mkultra when i look at files in my home folder (showing hidden files as well) i have no deskop folder or file
[07:45] <jayant> sagarchalise: i dont see any change. what does water effect do?
[07:45] <mkultra> cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:45] <mkultra> = version
[07:46] <mkultra> kriss...  its Desktop, linux is case sensitive
[07:46] <sagarchalise> jayant, it creates a drop on water like effect on screen
[07:46] <reisio> jayant: which is good for efficiency
[07:46] <jayant> sagarchalise: it doesnt work :'(
[07:47] <mkultra> some of my compiz is broken
[07:47] <mkultra> from repo
[07:47] <jayant> reisio: sorry i didn't understood what you meant to say
[07:47] <reisio> 's'okay, small joke
[07:47] <Daghdha> i still have no idea what to do mkultra, where the urls go, and what not.
[07:48] <jasef> I'm about to reinstall Ubuntu (cause I'm having really weird problems), and I was wondering - would I get better battery life out of Xubuntu or won't I get a difference?
[07:48] <mkultra> the ppa:ppateam/file goes into the synaptic repository apt line
[07:48] <mkultra> the real trick is finding the ppa
[07:48] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, just do sudo add-apt-repository and you ppa in terminal
[07:49] <Daghdha> so i wanna google for mono ppa?
[07:49] <jayant> reisio: ubuntu is already playing jokes with me. I tried using it last year, when i had a really reaaly old system and i have millions of problems and i still dont understand anything even though i have a nice system :(
[07:49] <kriss_> mkultra i know. Im lookin.. both via a window showing my home folder and in CLI mode.. no Desktop at all
[07:49] <mkultra> yeah your gonna want to hunt out a stable / dev mono
[07:49] <mkultra> one that works
[07:50] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: do you people have any idea why its not working on my system. could there be any other setting or something that i might look into?
[07:50] <Daghdha> apparently ppa.ppa:gezakovacs/sandbox
[07:50] <Daghdha> or https://raw.github.com/nathanb/iws-snippets/master/mono-install-scripts/ubuntu/update_mono-2.10-to-mono-2.10.1.sh
[07:51] <Daghdha> shell i understand.
[07:51] <sl1ck> is there any way to place my taskbar at the bottom? I'm old school.
[07:51] <mkultra> top left open gl needs turned on
[07:51] <mkultra> theres alot of reasons why it would not work jayant
[07:51] <mkultra> you need 3d drivers
[07:51] <mkultra> from nvidia / ati
[07:51] <jayant> mkultra: i have drivers for my nvidia card
[07:52] <mkultra> that would require alt + f2 gksu jocky-gtk
[07:52] <sagarchalise> jayant, may be driver issue but it should run , just run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  to see what are supported
[07:53] <jayant> mkultra: i ran that command, i have drivers!
[07:53] <enabran> hi
[07:53] <mkultra> ok
[07:53] <sagarchalise> sl1ck, not with unity
[07:53] <Daghdha> What say you experts: This any good? https://raw.github.com/nathanb/iws-snippets/master/mono-install-scripts/ubuntu/update_mono-2.10-to-mono-2.10.1.sh
[07:54] <sagarchalise> sl1ck, gnome-fallback-session or something like xfce or lxde
[07:54] <mkultra> jayant did you make sure compositing was on?
[07:54] <enabran> i'm curious about the cloud installation for 11.10. is there any way of automatic installation like with eucalyptus in 10.04 during installation?
[07:54] <Daghdha> That way i don't need to getit from untrusted PPA
[07:54] <jayant> sagarchalise: heres what i got. Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: unable to create the OpenGL context
[07:54] <reisio> |IlIIIIl|: bit odd to PM strangers :p
[07:55] <reisio> |IlIIIIl|: the only software that's sure to not have spyware is independently audited open source software
[07:55] <jayant> mkultra: if you mean composite plugin, yes
[07:55] <mkultra> that script looks ok to me, it compiles from source
[07:55] <raven> gpodder: how to deactivate left click menu?
[07:55] <sagarchalise> jayant, your hardware doesnot support 3d acceleration what video card do you have
[07:56] <jayant> sagarchalise: it does, i play crysis 2 on highest graphic detail on windows :D
[07:56] <jimmy8888> hi im having trouble with the dash menu in unity 11.10 - the search page is not showing installed applications
[07:56] <jayant> sagarchalise: i have nvidia GT 555M
[07:56] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, you need to build mono that way may run into dependency issue, I would rather go with ppa but that's just me
[07:57] <sagarchalise> jayant, have you installed the driver
[07:57] <jayant> sagarchalise: yes
[07:57] <arvut> if I get this error when I do this.. "arvut@556-wucko:~/nwn$ ./nwmain
[07:57] <arvut> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)" then how would I know what causes it? any way I can debug it?
[07:57] <Daghdha> sagarchalise do you know a trusted PPA that has it?
[07:58] <arvut> err.. first line didn't compute.
[07:58] <Daghdha> i see https://launchpad.net/~directhex/+ppa-packages
[07:58] <jhujhiti> how do i figure out why a package was removed from an ubuntu release? the bug tracker isn't turning anything up
[07:58] <enabran> anyone will to help with the new ubuntu cloud?
[07:58] <reisio> jhujhiti: which'n?
[07:58] <Daghdha> but there's like 175, i dunnow which i need.
[07:58] <jhujhiti> reisio: dbmail
[07:58] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: in "additional drivers" window, i have 2 drivers for my nvidia card. one is recommended and the other one is (post-release updates)(version current-updates). I will try switching back to recommended one...
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: like... hold your hand, or talk about a specific issue?
[07:59] <enabran> or is there another channel where this topic fits better?
[07:59] <arvut> trying to launch nwmain (Neverwinter Night's Main) and I get that lovely segfault with SDL.. what could have gone wrong?
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: what topic
[07:59] <enabran> reisio: more like talking about a specific issue... e.g. documentation for the installation process...
[07:59] <Squarism> Has spotify (with ulitmate account) stopped working in linux?
[07:59] <Daghdha> apparently i have 10.04 wich is lucid links
[07:59] <mkultra> i have current version
[07:59] <mkultra> the 3rd of 4
[07:59] <reisio> enabran: still being vague
[07:59] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: it says to restart the computer to activate that driver, shall i restart right now? If anyone of you says yes, i'll restart and will be back in 5 minutes
[07:59] <SunTsu> somebody experienced with update-initramfs? somehow conf/conf.d/cryptroot ends up containing lvm=system-root,lvm=system which is fscked up, because it tries to mount /dev/mapper/system instead of /dev/mapper/system-root, by that breaking my boot process until I mount and link stuff manually. Where would I find the culprit creating that stuff?
[08:00] <reisio> Daghdha: "10.04" is a fine way to refer to it :p
[08:00] <mkultra> yeah id restart
[08:00] <Daghdha> The list only refers to Lucid Natty and so on
[08:00] <enabran> reisio: but can we expect documentation to show up?
[08:00] <Daghdha> So my confusion grows.
[08:00] <jayant> ok..wil be back soon...thanks a lot guys
[08:00] <reisio> enabran: to show up when?
[08:01] <auronandace> !cloud | enabran
[08:01] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, which ubuntu are you using
[08:01] <|IlIIIIl|> Does QQ for Linux or mirandaqq have spyware
[08:01] <|IlIIIIl|> like myqq3 or the now defunct pidgin
[08:01] <enabran> reisio: don't know, that is basically one of my questions...
[08:01] <Daghdha> 10.04 desktop
[08:01] <enabran> ubottu: i know that one, but it is still for 10.04 based on eucalyptus...
[08:02] <mkultra> gah hang on ill make a page for your release issue
[08:02] <reisio> enabran: I'm pretty sure nobody has any idea what you want
[08:02] <auronandace> |IlIIIIl|: pidgin isn't defunct
[08:02] <|IlIIIIl|> pidgin doesn't work with QQ 2011
[08:02] <|IlIIIIl|> it previously did work with QQ
[08:02] <sagarchalise> Daghdha, 10.04 is lucid so search for one which supports lucid
[08:02] <mkultra> its cat /etc/*release
[08:02] <jayant> sagarchalise: mkultra: i restarted!
[08:02] <auronandace> |IlIIIIl|: ah, sorry, misunderstood you
[08:02] <mkultra> k
[08:03] <enabran> reisio: well, just a documentation for the installation of a uec based on openstack with 11.10...
[08:03] <mkultra> does it say its installed / activated
[08:03] <conntrack> seriously, go for it
[08:04] <jayant> sagarchalise: i did /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p again and got the same thing
[08:05] <sagarchalise> jayant, does gtk-jokey say your driver is activated and in use
[08:06] <varikonniemi> hello, is there some workaround for the volume level slider stopping working after installing 11.10 ?
[08:06] <varikonniemi> it only has 3 modes atm, mute, ~1% and ~100%
[08:06] <jimmy8888> so does anybody know why my unity dash has stopped indexing my installed applications?
[08:07] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell. However, compiz is not ran by default. I have to do "compiz --replace &" to start it... I've searched a lot, but don't know where to put this to automatically start compiz. I don't have the traditional "Appearance" utility anymore to enable compiz
[08:07] <jayant> sagarchalise: i tried gtk-jockey and gtk -jockey  and none of them did anything!
[08:07] <dundee> huhu
[08:07] <jayant> sagarchalise: got it from history. it says driver is activated and currently in use
[08:07] <sagarchalise> jayant, just search for drivers in your dash and see what it says about your driver, install the recommended driver
[08:08] <jayant> sagarchalise: i have the recommended driver installed and in use
[08:09] <mkultra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836890
[08:09] <mkultra> there u go hippies, donate 25,000 dollars to me for a 50 dollar bat house
[08:10] <Daghdha> ppa bs. i just run the script
[08:10] <Daghdha> dir
[08:10] <mkultra> that script is written kind of retarded
[08:10] <mkultra> but it should do the job
[08:10] <mkultra> and doesnt look malicious
[08:10] <Daghdha> using another script
[08:11] <Daghdha> wich fails
[08:11] <mkultra> you gotta make sure the PPA supports your release
[08:11] <Daghdha> 404
[08:11] <mkultra> there are not many ubuntu 11.10 ppas, but theres tons of ppas for maverick and 10.04
[08:12] <Daghdha> PPA means nothing to me i have no idea what to add or do with the urls.
[08:12] <mkultra> hang on 2 seconds, and ill build you a thread
[08:12] <auronandace> !ppa | Daghdha
[08:12] <jayant> sagarchalise: i googled for the error and got this http://askubuntu.com/questions/46065/problems-with-nvidia-drivers-on-dell-xps this guys has the same error as i have. He has 550M and i have 555M.
[08:13] <mkultra> i honestly dont trust a good 90% of the information i find about ubuntu
[08:13] <mkultra> and i doubt that thread is helping you
[08:13] <arghx> jayant: have you checked your Xorg log?
[08:13] <jayant> sagarchalise: doing an "nvidia-xconfig" gives a validation error "Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.                  Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line." and then this error: "ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'."
[08:14] <jayant> arghx: where is that log and what do i need to check in it? thanks
[08:14] <arghx> jayant: use sudo with nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <arghx> and the log is in /var/log  and you better paste it
[08:15] <Daghdha> ok so this chap has made them .. ppa:gezakovacs/mono  so i use the command line and will have it in synaptic? :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gezakovacs/mono
[08:15] <jayant> arghx: it gave the same validation error. but instead of giving other error it backed up xorg.conf file and created a new X configuration file
[08:15] <arghx> jayant: I know. now you restart X maybe?
[08:16] <Egbert9e9> The function keys on the keyboard revert from F1-to-F12 to wifi on off, volume control etc and I have to press the Fn key in order to get to the F1-to-F12 function keys
[08:17] <jayant> arghx: how do i restart X. and how do i post my log? just copy paste everything?
[08:17] <Egbert9e9> This is weird. I've set it on the BIOS that the F1-to-F12 function keys will be the default behaviour of those keys, but sometimes it is reverted into the volume control and other media keys
[08:18] <Daghdha> Ok, i did: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gezakovacs/mono
[08:18] <jayant> arghx: there are 2 logs: Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old which one do i need to post?
[08:18] <BlackBishop> any place ifconfig gets its ethernet alias information ? I don't see ethX:Y in /proc/net/dev ...
[08:18] <mkultra> log, post it to a pastebin
[08:19] <mkultra> i find the tinfoil hat alarming to be honest
[08:19] <iceroot> BlackBishop: udev
[08:19] <jayant> mkultra: pastebin! now i remember. i used it a lot last time, when i tried installing ubuntu :D
[08:19] <kleban> is it safe to install gnome 3 , without messing with current settings ?
[08:19] <BlackBishop> iceroot: please explain
[08:19] <iceroot> BlackBishop: /etc/udev/rules.d/
[08:19] <mkultra> lol
[08:20] <iceroot> BlackBishop: grep there for eth0 to see how it is build up
[08:20] <mkultra> i use pastebin for installing linux from scratch, if im hard up
[08:20] <auronandace> !gnome3 | kleban
[08:20] <mkultra> i dont generally share logs though
[08:20] <BlackBishop> iceroot: that doesn't define the aliases ! just the main interface.
[08:20] <netxshare> can I create a new LVM with out deleting one old LVM partition?
[08:20] <netxshare> I am trying to not to lose data
[08:21] <iceroot> BlackBishop: /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:21] <jayant> mkultra: arghx: here is the log: http://pastebin.com/BAqcRFNF
[08:21] <yagoo> iceroot, u know udev well?
[08:21] <BlackBishop> is that exported by the kernel ? :| Doubt it. what if I manually configure it now ..
[08:22] <iceroot> yagoo: not very well
[08:23] <jesse__> does anyone know a good site where i may browse unity window decorations and themes for ubuntu 11.10?
[08:23] <yagoo> maybe u know (not asking for anything further)-- just on the possibility internal ntfs not to show up on nautilus (I have them locked down and nonnavigable having ntfs partitions in /etc/fstab set to noauto)-- it baffled me yesterday
[08:23] <yagoo> (iceroot or anyone who may know this)
[08:23] <jayant> general question, log files are sooo big and weird. How do you people understand what's in there?
[08:23] <iceroot> jayant: with grep or search-function in less
[08:24] <yagoo> jesse__, well unity is partnered with canonical i guess-- either i'l be a ubuntu or canonical supported website
[08:24] <netxshare> here is my filesystem http://www.privatepaste.com/fae58efe9b
[08:24] <yagoo> jayant, they're repetitious.
[08:24] <yagoo> lol
[08:24] <Daghdha> is 10.04 Maverick?
[08:24] <jesse__> yagoo: do you know of one? or does everyone just use the default themes/window decorations that come pre loaded?
[08:24] <iceroot> Daghdha: lucid
[08:24] <szal> jayant: if you can read you clearly have an advantage, that goes for log files too..  you get an eye for what to look for in there
[08:24] <jayant> iceroot: thats when you are looking for something in it. but say, when i uploaded a log, how do they look in it and tell where (or what) the problem is ?
[08:24] <Ush4O> hi. is there no minimal install (command line system) option on the new (11.10) boot image?
[08:24] <yagoo> jesse__, well u can try "unity theme site:wikipedia.org" (google)
[08:25] <jayant> yagoo: why don't they make them small then?
[08:25] <arghx> jayant: how does a car mechanic know what is wrong with your car?
[08:25] <yagoo> jesse__, or "list of unity themes" ubuntu wiki
[08:25] <jayant> szal: yeah, thats true
[08:25] <jesse__> thanks yagoo, i'll give it a try
[08:25] <iceroot> jayant: timestamp is a good start, to know when it happens, that makes searching easier
[08:25] <jayant> arghx: experience :D
[08:25] <szal> jayant: some logs already have some initial info that tells you what to look for in case of error
[08:25] <iceroot> jayant: also the error-message can maybe be found there but its depending on the case
[08:25] <jayant> iceroot: timestamp! new word. i think i will remember it
[08:25] <yagoo> jayant, you can change the verbosity level.. but i don't think that's necessary.. people just use grep
[08:26] <yagoo> jayant, there's "supercat" (pacakge sc).. which can colorize console logs
[08:26] <ghabit> Hello. Fresh install ubuntu.  How I can see cpu load?
[08:26] <iceroot> ghabit: top
[08:26] <yagoo> ghabit, so u got that netbook workin ?
[08:26] <varikonniemi> so, 11.10 made the sound slider not working, it will mute/unmute, make it so faint u can almost not hear it, or then full volume. Is there some workaround for this?
[08:26] <mkultra> mavericks 10.10
[08:26] <ghabit> yagoo, netbook too, thank you ^)
[08:26] <yagoo> cool
[08:27] <ghabit> yagoo, what is nice and easy file sharing system for ubuntu?
[08:27] <ghabit> pc-notebook-netbook files sharing
[08:27] <yagoo> ghabit, um.. not sure .. i don't know the GUI ins and outs.. but i do know it's a joke with ssh..
[08:27] <jayant> yagoo: sounds really cool...
[08:27] <jayant> thanks a lot everyone for all the info
[08:28] <yagoo> ghabit, u may be able to use fish:// sshhfs:// ssh:// something like this in nautilus (( u can even test ur running ssh server locally)
[08:28] <yagoo> ghabit, there's all kind of gui gadgets i dont know about..
[08:29] <Daghdha> I add ppa:gezakovacs/mono but it keeps adding maverick
[08:29] <yagoo> ghabit, but sftp (which is like ftp.. but runs under ssh)) -- takes no setup.. just apt-get install ssh.. and sftp is read
[08:29] <yagoo> ready
[08:29] <Daghdha> I only see maverickitems  in my package ilist
[08:29] <iceroot> Daghdha: cat /etc/issue
[08:29] <jasef> I think Nautilus uses sftp by default when you connect to an SSH server.
[08:30] <ghabit> yagoo, need smth for my girl ^)
[08:30] <Daghdha> 10.10 o_O
[08:30] <Daghdha> i has 10.10?!
[08:30] <yagoo> ghabit, oh ya.. i also notice a "Connect to.." from the places menu.. i never got used to using the gui for this.. u can try that too..
[08:30] <Daghdha> thanks iceroot
[08:30] <reisio> jasef: since sftp is ssh...
[08:31]  * yagoo says filezilla is multiplatform client.. and can access sftp easily
[08:31] <iceroot> Daghdha: what is the output of that command?
[08:31] <Daghdha> 10.10
[08:31] <Daghdha> and some otehr text
[08:31] <Daghdha> \n 'l
[08:31] <EsbenH> funny thing this where-did-my-window-go-now game of oneiric....
[08:31] <iceroot> Daghdha: then you are using ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[08:31] <Daghdha> grrr.. :)
[08:31] <Daghdha> i thought 10.04..
[08:31] <varikonniemi> so is 11.10 flawless in your opinion, or why are you not even recognizing my question?
[08:32] <Daghdha> Maverick Meerkat .. so synaptic smarter than me ;)
[08:32] <auronandace> varikonniemi: maybe nobody here has had the same problem as you
[08:32] <jasef> varikonniemi, People only usually answer if they have any idea how to fix it - I have 11.10 and have never seen that problem, so I dunno how.
[08:32] <yagoo> ghabit, if you want to do a modern way of sharing (i think ssh is pretty great as a fileserver using sftp)--- u can check out webdav-- but this requires much more homework (who knows maybe there are easy install wizards for this)
[08:33] <EgyParadox> is there a channel for celebration?
[08:33] <varikonniemi> auronandace, so this is not an official channel, but a community one? i see
[08:33] <benoliver999> EgyParadox: Is there a cause?
[08:33] <varikonniemi> an official cahnnel would be interested in at least collecting the bug report and file it, or something
[08:33] <reisio> EgyParadox: #yay
[08:33] <iceroot> varikonniemi: this is the official channel for ubuntu
[08:33] <iceroot> !bug | varikonniemi
[08:33] <auronandace> !bug | varikonniemi
[08:34] <varikonniemi> yeah, i see, well i am not a computer geek, so those launchapad and stuff really goes over my head
[08:34] <yagoo> ghabit, google this-> "list of file sharing software site:wikipedia.org"
[08:34] <EgyParadox> Since the first Ubuntu was released today?
[08:34] <iceroot> varikonniemi: try the ubuntu-bug command, its very easy
[08:34] <EgyParadox> like today*
[08:34] <Wild_Cat> Quick question: in Oneiric, how can I get alt-tab to only toggle between applications *on the current workspace*, as was the case in earlier versions?
[08:34] <iceroot> varikonniemi: no special knowledge needed, just use the command and give a short description about your problem
[08:35] <varikonniemi> i was just expecting a canonical emplyee would be here to answer/document bug reports or something, io don't honestly know how the model works
[08:35]  * Daghdha crosses fingers, presses 'apply' and gets ready to blame everyoen but himself if this goes wrong :)
[08:35] <iceroot> EgyParadox: ?
[08:35] <yagoo> ghabit, there's many solutions for file sharing.. it's how complex you want it.. the simplest one is the one i mentioned..
[08:35] <jasef> varikonniemi, Uh... no, this is a free OS, they don't pay people to hang around to answer questions or stuff :(
[08:35] <iceroot> varikonniemi: with what program you have a problem/bug?
[08:35] <ghabit> yagoo, I think I will just install samba on ubuntu.
[08:35] <reisio> jasef: they do actually :p
[08:35] <reisio> but not very many
[08:36] <jasef> reisio, O-o. I haven't ever noticed any employees around here...
[08:36] <varikonniemi> iceroot, my volume slider stopped working after 11.10
[08:36] <EgyParadox> iceroot, http://planet.ubuntu.com/ <- the first post
[08:36] <reisio> jasef: IME they stick mostly to yelling about the topic
[08:36] <varikonniemi> it has 3 modes, mute 1% and 100%
[08:36] <yagoo> (and of course SSH kicksass with seucurity-- don't go FTP as it sux-- maybe vsftp/proftpd is good << BUT problems with firewall as ftp use 2 ports)
[08:36] <EgyParadox> !sftp
[08:36] <reisio> for its homepage :/
[08:36] <jasef> reisio, lol. That sounds fun.
[08:36] <iceroot> varikonniemi: stopped working means?
[08:36] <reisio> putty is also available for Unixland
[08:36] <reisio> jasef: sounds like a great way to spend your time
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, <varikonniemi> it has 3 modes, mute 1% and 100%
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you cant move the slider? you can move it but no effect?
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, you should start moving forward from samba (this is just my humble opinion)-- try setting up nfs or webdav..
[08:37] <jasef> reisio, If I could get paid for that, I'd do it.
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: ok
[08:37] <reisio> jasef: it's what security guards do, basically
[08:37] <ghabit> yagoo, thx, I wil ltry.
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, the reason is that www is going forward with webdav..
[08:37] <iceroot> varikonniemi: you are using normal ubuntu with unity?
[08:37] <reisio> policemen, principals, etc.
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, yes
[08:37] <jasef> reisio, I'm stuck applying to a billion places for holiday work though.
[08:37] <yagoo> ghabit, webdav made also for web.. smb not so..
[08:37] <varikonniemi> iceroot, clean install
[08:38] <yagoo> ghabit, webdav is http:// with write extensions..
[08:38] <yagoo> ghabit, as well as webdav can be secured as https:// with extensions
[08:39] <Daghdha> yagoo: My windows filemanager dies on certain NFS mapped folders :) It was quite curious
[08:39] <reisio> jasef: just move somewhere where there aren't stupid holidays
[08:39] <varikonniemi> iceroot, i had numerous other problems besides this, but i have managed to work around those with the help of google. This is the one really annoying standing
[08:39] <Daghdha> I have a 3rd party filemanager
[08:39] <brandonc503> how do i whisper a certain person?
[08:39] <iceroot> varikonniemi: "ubuntu-bug indicator-applet-complete" to report your bug
[08:39] <llutz_> brandonc503: /msg nick bal
[08:39] <brandonc503> tnx
[08:40] <iceroot> varikonniemi: just descripe there your problem, thats all (and you need a launchpad-account) then someone will look at your issue and contact you/fix the issue
[08:40] <pdq> how can one check what desktop environment they are logged into from terminal?
[08:40] <yagoo> pdq, maybe one of the set env variables
[08:40] <varikonniemi> iceroot, yeah i will look into that, register and try sending some report..
[08:40] <iceroot> varikonniemi: great
[08:40] <jasef> reisio, Lol, but I like holidays... more hours available to work in :P I desperately need to get a job.
[08:41] <iceroot> varikonniemi: that should be the best way so the persons can ask you about more infos about fixing the problem and so on
[08:41] <Engin> 11.10 image md5sums are missing, and why is x64 stil not recommended ?
[08:41] <auronandace> Engin: 32bit is only recommended because it works on both
[08:42] <iceroot> Engin: because not every cpu can use amd64 so its stupid to suggest amd64 to persons which can only use 32bit
[08:42] <iceroot> !md5
[08:42] <iceroot> !md5sum
[08:42] <varikonniemi> iceroot, it said indicator-applet-complete does not exist
[08:42] <Daghdha> Got 2.10 now for mono. Thanks for helping out mkultra, iceroot, auronandace, sagarchalise and reisio. And everyone else :P
[08:43] <auronandace> !hash | Engin
[08:43] <iceroot> Engin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS
[08:43] <auronandace> !hashes | Engin
[08:43] <randomusr> anyone running on Macbook Pro?
[08:43] <iceroot> !anyone | randomusr
[08:43] <rapt> hi
[08:43] <reisio> randomusr: macbook pro users, I'm sure
[08:43] <van7hu> hi, how could I link against libcrypto in ubuntu? I am using C
[08:43] <iceroot> !mac | randomusr
[08:44] <mkultra> no problem Daghdha
[08:44] <reisio> van7hu: #friendly-coders
[08:44] <van7hu> reisio, okay
[08:44] <benoliver999> jasef: I'm awful with emoticons, is :3 a mustache?
[08:44] <reisio> benoliver999: it's a walrus
[08:44] <jasef> Is not
[08:44] <jasef> It's a cat face.
[08:45] <randomusr> let's try this again.... I'm using 10.10 and want to know if there's any issues if I upgrade to 11.04.
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: normally not
[08:45] <randomusr> using the mactel ppa's
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: but have a backup before upgrading is always a good idea
[08:45] <iceroot> randomusr: ah on mac... i dont know, luckily i am not using something like that
[08:46] <randomusr> iceroot, do I need to do anything with the ppa repos?
[08:46] <randomusr> ah
[08:46] <iceroot> randomusr: but normally there should not be a problem with mac also
[08:46] <devians> hey, i have ubuntu 10.10 in a vm with 2 nics, lspci shows both nics but ifconfig only seems to know about one. where should i start looking to troubleshoot this?
[08:46] <iceroot> randomusr: they will be disabled automaticly
[08:46] <jasef> I know i asked this before - but I think it's been long enough to ask again. Anyone have any idea if Xubuntu has less power usage that Ubuntu? I get really bad battery life atm on this netbook under Ubuntu
[08:46] <iceroot> devians: ifconfig -a  should show both
[08:47] <randomusr> iceroot, are the mactel ppa's specific to distro or just based on which macbook you have?
[08:47] <devians> iceroot ok, duh. cant believe i forgot that
[08:47] <iceroot> jasef: its more like a kernel-problem not a gui problem (there are open bugs for that)
[08:47] <reisio> jasef: hard to imagine it not having less
[08:47] <devians> so to drop this card onto dhcp i should just add it to /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:47] <iceroot> randomusr: specific to distro
[08:48] <iceroot> devians: if you are not using network-manager, yes
[08:48] <devians> er, its a fresh install, im not using anything. what is network manager?
[08:48] <iceroot> devians: you have a gui? or is it a headless server?
[08:48] <jimmy8888> my laptop does not have a windows key and thus i do not have a "super key"... is there a way to reconfigure the super key in unity-2d ??
[08:48] <devians> iceroot headless
[08:49] <iceroot> devians: then use /etc/network/interfaces
[08:49] <devians> kk
[08:51] <peter-sdlkfjad> I use Xubuntu. Until recently, my sound worked fine. Now, not. I created another account, and the sound works for that, but still not for mine. Does anyone have any solutions that are... user-based?
[08:52] <arvut> hi, can anyone in here who has some experience in debugging banshee please have a look at this?: http://pastebin.com/ccC4Z5X5
[08:52] <peter-sdlkfjad> ...or can direct me to a useful website?
[08:52] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, Eh.. not really sure but sounds like an issue with your pulseaudio config.
[08:53] <devians> when mounting cifs shares in ubuntu, if you hit permission denied, how to tell if thats a problem with the mount or with the servers permission config?
[08:53] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, This is just a guess but... you could try putting the following line in a terminal: 'rm -rf ~/.pulse' and relogging, but it's just a guess
[08:54] <jasef> peter-sdlkfjad, run that in the user without sound, I mean.
[08:55] <devians> actually, i think this is on the client side. im mounting to /storage/media, which is root:root and rw-r--r--. the mounted filesystem comes up as d??????? for everything,
[08:57] <peter-adfadfaj> Sound working :')Thank you jasef.
[08:57] <Engin> auronandace: iceroot: so 64-bit is recommended for 64-bit CPUs ? :)
[08:58] <jasef> peter-adfadfaj, np :)
[08:58] <yagoo> devians, u need to know ur server permissions.
[08:58] <iceroot> Engin: if your hardware supports amd64, yes the amd64 version of ubuntu is recommend
[08:58] <auronandace> Engin: yes, unless you rely on something that doesn't work on 64bit (which is rather rare)
[08:59] <jasef> My laptop is an Atom - I bought it earlier this year, and it's only 32-bit capable
[08:59] <arvut> repeating as it's quite urgent: http://pastebin.com/ccC4Z5X5 please help me =)
[09:00] <devians> yagoo, client logs in as herald, server has herald in media group, permissions on the share and contents are generally :media 755.
[09:00] <Engin> well, i'm downloading for a i7
[09:00] <Engin> with 4 HT cores I guess
[09:00] <iceroot> Engin: so its supporting amd64
[09:00] <jasef> Lol, I'd get AMD64 then :P
[09:00] <Engin> jfyi, the site gives the impression that 64-bit is not stable
[09:01] <Engin> so 32-bit is recommended, that's what i thought
[09:01] <iceroot> Engin: its stable
[09:01] <arvut> Engin: which i7 are you running? and how much ram?
[09:01] <auronandace> Engin: 64bit works great for me
[09:01] <jasef> Engin, 32-bit is recommended because there are still computers being sold without 64-bit capable hardware (mainly netbooks)
[09:01] <iceroot> Engin: how much ram?
[09:01] <devians> yagoo i can see the contents of the mount, just go no further. if thats any indication?
[09:01] <Engin> jasef: so better text would be "if you are not sure if your computer supports 64-bit or not, please download 32-bit version"
[09:02] <auronandace> Engin: essentially yes
[09:02] <jasef> Engin, yeah, basically.
[09:02] <Engin> iceroot: no idea, 6 I guess.
[09:02] <iceroot> Engin: with 6gb you MUST use amd64
[09:02] <arghx> iceroot: not really :)
[09:02] <iceroot> Engin: or you only have ~3.3g ram
[09:02] <Engin> linux can address <4GB with a module
[09:02] <iceroot> arghx: dont come with pae
[09:02] <arvut> Engin: should say: "please do dare to try, if everything else fails, fall back to working solution =)"
[09:03] <arghx> iceroot: not even pae is necessary (not exactly a good solution either, but still doable)
[09:03] <iceroot> arghx: what is the other way without pae and without amd64?
[09:04] <arghx> running a amd64 kernel with a 32bit userland
[09:04] <iceroot> arghx: without amd64
[09:04] <iceroot> arghx: using an amd64 kernel with 32bit userland is much more useless then pae...
[09:06] <arvut> iceroot: i installed ubuntu 10.04 64bit on a core2 duo laptop that has 4gb ram and it only shows 3.5gb so there is a issue there too I guess.. or its me missing something? (could it be the 1024 thing again?..)
[09:06] <Engin> arvut: my display adapter taking shared memory.
[09:06] <Engin> maybe*
[09:06] <arvut> Engin: ah yes.. that might be it.
[09:07] <iceroot> arvut: can you paste "uname -r" and "free -m" and "proc /dev/meminfo"?
[09:07] <iceroot> arvut: ah or your vga is stealing it, yes
[09:07] <raven> how to find out the bin path of an application?
[09:07] <iceroot> raven: "which app"
[09:07] <Semtex> someone please help! I have lost root access on my ubuntu 11.10
[09:08] <arvut> did notice that when I started my "new" ex-win98se laptop that has 128mb ram. had to modify shared mem for gfx in bios and share atleast 32mb in order to start system rescue cd with alternative kernel (32bit gentoo build)
[09:08] <raven> iceroot, tnx
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: great, we dont support root-accounts here
[09:08] <yagoo> Semtex, "root" is a very ambiguous term. Speak carefully
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: so use sudo as before
[09:08] <Semtex> I cant sudo
[09:08] <Semtex> I set password to none in user settings
[09:08] <Semtex> now I cant sudo
[09:08] <yagoo> lol
[09:08] <Semtex> I am screwed
[09:08] <iceroot> Semtex: ...
[09:09] <arvut> iceroot: sorry no, not yet atleast. its my friends laptop and hes pretty much asleep and out of reach atm.
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: have you also setup a root-account?
[09:09] <Semtex> n
[09:09] <Semtex> no
[09:09] <llutz_> Semtex: live-cd, chroot
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd  and change your password
[09:09] <yagoo> Semtex, use rescue boot (installer dvd) and chroot to change password
[09:09] <yagoo> Semtex, once chrooted, use passwd command
[09:09] <Semtex> ok thanks guys
[09:09] <iceroot> Semtex: or how do you set the password emtpy?
[09:09] <Semtex> no idea
[09:10] <Semtex> I think I done it through the user settings screen
[09:10] <iceroot> Semtex: normally "passwd" should work to setup a correct password, after that you can use sudo again
[09:10] <Semtex> there is an option to set password to none
[09:10] <iceroot> Semtex: just type "passwd" in the terminal
[09:10] <Semtex> ok cheers guys
[09:10] <conntrack> plop, plop, plop
[09:10] <arvut> iceroot: tried that proc command, my 11.04 build on this sad machine returned the "no command" error.. typo?
[09:11] <jasef> If I have like 60GB available, what's a nice sensible split between two partitions for Ubuntu (/ and /home)
[09:11] <iceroot> arvut: cat /proc/meminfo
[09:11] <Egbert9e9> so how do I make my F1-to-F12 keys to be F keys and not media keys
[09:12] <reisio> Egbert9e9: laptop?
[09:12] <reisio> take your time, think about it, get back to me
[09:12] <Egbert9e9> reisio: yep
[09:13] <reisio> which laptop?
[09:13] <Egbert9e9> Inspiron 1090
[09:13] <Semtex> thanks iceroot
[09:13] <Semtex> that worked great
[09:13] <skaa> hi
[09:13] <iceroot> Semtex: fine
[09:13] <arvut> skaa: welcome to ubuntu support =)
[09:13] <iceroot> Semtex: please dont use an empty password in the future, its a  big security issue
[09:14] <Egbert9e9> I've told BIOS that F1-to-F12 will be the default mode and that media keys will be Fn-F key combination
[09:14] <Semtex> iceroot: you dont have to tell me, I know! thats why I came on here in a panic!
[09:14] <iceroot> Semtex: :)
[09:14] <Semtex> iceroot: I think I have found a bug tho
[09:14] <iceroot> Semtex: which?
[09:14] <reisio> Egbert9e9: and they're still being used for media keys?
[09:15] <Semtex> the user accounts screen lets you set a blank password
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: that sudo is not working with empty passwords?
[09:15] <Semtex> even on a root acount
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: can you paste a screenshot?
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: there is no root-account by default
[09:15] <iceroot> Semtex: there is no enabled root-account by default
[09:15] <Egbert9e9> reisio: Sometimes I'll boot into a session in which media keys are the default and I will only get F1-to-F12 when pressed with Fn
[09:16] <skaa> hey
[09:16] <Semtex> iceroot: thats somthing else
[09:16] <Egbert9e9> reisio: Fn has a functionality like Alt, Shift and Ctrl
[09:16] <iceroot> !bug | Semtex
[09:16] <Egbert9e9> reisio: so it's pretty frustrating
[09:16] <reisio> yeah sounds like your BIOS is lame
[09:16] <reisio> Dell BIOSes usually are, though
[09:16] <arvut> iceroot: if I can't restore a hibernated 11.04 session (with encrypted home) and have 1952 swap (total) and 2002 total mem, is there a way to expand the swap so that it will work?
[09:16] <reisio> Egbert9e9: would check for a BIOS update first
[09:17] <Egbert9e9> ah
[09:17] <Egbert9e9> Thanks
[09:17] <iceroot> arvut: your swap is a partition or a file?
[09:17] <reisio> Egbert9e9: and if that doesn't work you can fix it with xmodmap or something like that
[09:17] <Semtex> iceroot: hold on I will take a screenshot
[09:17] <arvut> iceroot: partition ofcourse
[09:17] <iceroot> arvut: then i guess gparted to resize your swap-partition
[09:17] <arvut> I don't like hiberfiles
[09:17] <arvut> iceroot: while I'm logged in? or with live cd?
[09:18] <Semtex> actually a screen capture isnt going to do it
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: while the partitions are not mounted
[09:18] <arvut> all of swap is free btw
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: so normally a live-cd
[09:18] <arvut> k, but can I umount swap?
[09:18] <iceroot> arvut: but you have to resize another partiton to get free space i guess
[09:19] <iceroot> arvut: swapoff -a
[09:19] <petionet> :P
[09:19] <petionet> i have a sexy hostname
[09:19] <[Sanyi]> bless you..
[09:19] <[Sanyi]> :P
[09:19] <jasef> Nah, you don't :P
[09:19] <iceroot> petionet: you have a support-question?
[09:19] <petionet> inspect me :D
[09:19] <arvut> iceroot: not really an issue, made space for future installs but will format the whole disk soon as I have 10gb unusable space atm..
[09:19] <petionet> ok ill kick myself
[09:20] <iceroot> arvut: ah ok
[09:21] <arvut> question tho, if /home is encrypted (and its own partition), can I then use it if I reinstall the rest?
[09:21] <iceroot> arvut: if you have the key or passphrase, yes
[09:22] <arvut> iceroot: as I thought.. i certainly hope so then. will have a look..
[09:22] <jvm_> arvut, you can only mount it with the encryption key you should have written down at installation time -- you can access it with ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase
[09:22] <wallaby> I'm using a new install of ubuntu 11.10 and firefox takes a long time to load and makes the disk very active for a long time, can anyone help?
[09:23] <iceroot> arvut: best is try mounting it from a live-session to see if you can mount it correctly from a different system. just to e sure
[09:23] <arvut> jvm_: ah, so if I do that before reinstall, I can rescue it?
[09:23] <arvut> iceroot: will give it a shot
[09:24] <lanc> hi all - for 8G laptop RAM, do I go with 32bit install+PAE or do I go straight with 64bit?
[09:24] <hellofoo> what does various app like filezilla, pidgin use to send desktop notifications on my 11.04 gnome ?
[09:24] <applesouce> hi
[09:24] <jvm_> arvut, right.
[09:24] <iceroot> lanc: amd64
[09:24] <jvm_> theoretically. no one has ever tried :p
[09:24] <Semtex> ok iceroot I have just recorded a screencapture of the 'bug
[09:24] <iceroot> hellofoo: dbus
[09:24] <Semtex> if its ok I would like you to have a look
[09:25] <iceroot> Semtex: url?
[09:25] <lanc> iceroot: so 32bit+PAE kernel isn't anymore an option?
[09:25] <hellofoo> iceroot: how can i send a notification to my desktop from terminal ?
[09:25] <arvut> hmm.. not sure I understand ecryptfs..
[09:25] <Semtex> just uploading
[09:25] <arvut> should I rtm?
[09:25] <applesouce> I've bought a Notebook and wanted to ask what partitions I should use
[09:25] <applesouce> I have 320 GB HDD and want to have Ubuntu and Windows
[09:25] <iceroot> lanc: it was never a good option
[09:25] <arvut> or would you care to explain?
[09:25] <lanc> iceroot: okay, thanks
[09:25] <wallaby> is this the Ubuntu support channel?
[09:25] <iceroot> wallaby: yes
[09:25] <reisio> applesouce: half and half?
[09:26] <wallaby> I'm using a new install of ubuntu 11.10 and firefox takes a long time to load and makes the disk very active for a long time, can anyone help?
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: if you're going to use Windows for big games, you might give it a little more <shrug>
[09:26] <mkultra> why did my alt+f2 stop loading run dialog?
[09:26] <applesouce> Yes that's what I thought too but I on't if it is enough
[09:26] <arvut> wallaby: have you used ubuntu before?
[09:26] <applesouce> I don't know I don't really want to play games on the Notebook
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: it's plenty for each OS and plenty of 3rd party software for each
[09:26] <applesouce> it's more for programming and Video + Audio Cut
[09:26] <reisio> applesouce: okay then you won't need to give Windows more
[09:26] <applesouce> yes I think of giving Windows less^^
[09:26] <wallaby> not really
[09:27] <mkultra> jayant, wake up im back
[09:27] <reisio> applesouce: you can store ordinary files on either partition and copy to and from, so it's just a matter of program files
[09:27] <applesouce> but
[09:27] <lanc> also - on http://help.ubuntu.com Oneiric has the same version as Natty. Guess you guys know that already?
[09:27] <wallaby> arvut: but i'm good with computers
[09:27] <applesouce> when I make two partitions
[09:27] <arvut> wallaby: I suggest you give 10.04 a try, less bugs to annoy you for now =)
[09:27] <Semtex> iceroot: its a 6MB mpeg thats 2:14 long
[09:27] <jayant> mkultra :i am awake :D
[09:27] <Semtex> iceroot: http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg
[09:27] <applesouce> I can't format one as NTFS and one as Fat32 or?
[09:27] <reisio> applesouce: hrmm?
[09:28] <Semtex> iceroot: might want to download or open in vlc
[09:28] <reisio> applesouce: make two partitions, let Windows' installer format the first as NTFS, let Ubuntu's installer format the second as whatever you like
[09:28] <iceroot> Semtex: i am talking about pictures
[09:28] <iceroot> Semtex: not videos
[09:28] <lanc> reisio: and swap?
[09:29] <applesouce> what would be the best for Ubuntu?
[09:29] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[09:29] <Semtex> iceroot: I dont have time to take separate screenshots
[09:29] <reisio> lanc: up to applesouce
[09:29] <wallaby> arvut: ok is that a general rule with ubuntu?  Will 11.10 give me the advertised Ubuntu, quick and easy, experiance?
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: I think it uses ext4 by default, which is okay
[09:29] <wallaby> arvut: *10.04
[09:29] <hellofoo> iceroot: so which program (command from bash) will help me to send a notification ?
[09:29] <iceroot> Semtex: i just want to see a screenshot of the gui which is offwering to set an empty password
[09:29] <applesouce> ok
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: you might want to leave space for a third partition for Ubuntu's swap, equal to the amount of RAM
[09:29] <yellabs-r2> alway's when i start google chrome it asks for my keyring, how can i avoid this ? tips are welcome :)
[09:29] <reisio> applesouce: unless you have less than a gig of RAM, then possibly twice the size
[09:29] <iceroot> hellofoo: dont know i am not using dbus very often
[09:29] <applesouce> 4GB
[09:30] <reisio> k
[09:30] <robinsch> hi
[09:30] <applesouce> Should be enough or
[09:30] <reisio> if you leave the second half for Ubuntu, the installer will work that out for you
[09:30] <Loopus> Hi,  I am having a problem with Ubuntu 10.4 was hoping somoene could help me, If I go to Appearance, visual effects and then choose normal I get the message "Desktop effects could not be enabled" I am stuck at "none" setting
[09:30] <applesouce> should I still use swamp
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: I would, yes, particularly for a portable
[09:30] <Loopus> without this I can not use Gnome Do or Docky, it was working yesterday I turn on today and its broke any ideas ?
[09:30] <applesouce> how much?
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: it's utilized for suspend/hibernate, among other things
[09:30] <robinsch> anyone else not being able to access user accounts settings?
[09:30] <robinsch> anyone else not being able to access user accounts settings?
[09:30] <reisio> applesouce: I'd go with 4GB, but you could just let the installer use whatever it likes
[09:30] <robinsch> oops
[09:30] <lanc> hellofoo: there is an xmesg xnotify or so command popping up a window on $DISPLAY and offering buttons (Yes/No/Cancel/whatever)
[09:31] <Semtex> iceroot: its not that simple its a bug
[09:31] <applesouce> So the Ubuntu Installer configurates the things by himself?
[09:31] <devians> hey guys, when i add a cifs mount to /etc/fstab, the resulting filesystem is mounted as root:root, can i change the ownership on it? is it as simple as chown or do i need to change the mount?
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: yes by default
[09:31] <robinsch> can everyone open up the user account settings would a "segmentation fault"
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: you say where to install to, and what filesystem
[09:31] <Loopus> any idea why "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in Appearance settings ? I am stuck to use "none"  this was working yesterday but its broke today wheni turn on
[09:31] <reisio> applesouce: unless you opt to use a more advanced configuration
[09:32] <robinsch> ?
[09:32] <wallaby> ANYONE: Will 11.04. rather than 11.10, give me the advertised Ubuntu, quick and easy, experiance?
[09:32] <Semtex> iceroot: On the user accounts screen there is an option to change your password, clicking on that opens a new window. On that window there is a dropdown box with the option 'login without a password'. THIS WILL REMOVE YOUR ROOT PASSWORD
[09:32] <reisio> wallaby: aren't they both advertized?
[09:33] <wallaby> reisio: ?
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: see http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg for more info
[09:33] <reisio> wallaby: what is it you're after
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: if you dont want to dl I can upload to youtube
[09:33] <robinsch> please help me
[09:33] <Loopus> anyone know why my graphics have stopped working, it says "Desktop effects could nto be enabled" it used to work yesterday
[09:33] <wallaby> reisio: the 'promoted' experiance rather than hangs and having to throw lots of commands at a prompt
[09:33] <Semtex> iceroot: I just want to know if it is worth reporting as a bug
[09:33] <robinsch> is user accounts working at all for anyone?
[09:34] <reisio> wallaby: theoretically any release will give you that
[09:34] <robinsch> just wanna know if I am alone with this issue
[09:34] <Semtex> robinsch: in what sence? lol
[09:34] <reisio> wallaby: there's no magic version that is completely immune to bugs
[09:34] <Semtex> robinsch: you shouldn’t have a segmentation fault if thats what you mean
[09:35] <robinsch> Semtex: the GTK+ widget that runs when you click on user accounts in settings
[09:35] <wallaby> reisio: 11.10 isn't and i'm new through the gate, so i'm after a good first impression, what i've had so far isn't that
[09:35] <robinsch> Semtex: ya I get a segmentation fault and it crashes
[09:35] <Loopus> why does my graphics not have composite enabled anymore ? It was working yesterday I turned off, turn back on today and nothing works???
[09:36] <wallaby> reisio: without getting to deep yes i appriciate that nothing is perfect, but will 11.10 be closer to white than 11.10?
[09:36] <reisio> wallaby: you might want 10.04 LTS, then, it's supported until 2013, and then after that you might have to switch to one of the newer buggier versions anyways
[09:36] <robinsch> I noticed the issue started when I installed ccsm
[09:36] <PhoenixSTF> how do i create a ext4 fs, for large files
[09:36] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: ?
[09:36] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, what options should i use?
[09:36] <robinsch> can anyone confirm this?
[09:37] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: what makes you think the default options won't suffice?
[09:37] <skyball> #fux0r
[09:37] <wallaby> reisio: well at lease thats on par with the bloated buggy commercial os i'm used to
[09:37] <Semtex> iceroot: so is it a bug? should I report it?
[09:37] <Loopus> nobody has answer to my graphics problem ?
[09:37] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, because if I have and accident like I had on a fs, fsck will take forever....
[09:37] <Semtex> iceroot: or am I being an idiot?
[09:37] <wallaby> reisio: where can i find 11.04 LTS?
[09:37] <reisio> wallaby: yeah, too bad Ubuntu seems to be so on par with that OS :p
[09:38] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, and performance for 200mg + files decreases
[09:38] <reisio> wallaby: you can't, the next LTS release is 12.04, yet to happen
[09:38] <reisio> wallaby: and that quite possibly won't have the more stable GNOME 2 available, either, and likely won't use it as default even if it is available
[09:39] <Semtex> wallaby: http://ubuntu.virginmedia.com/releases/ but 11.04 isnt LTS
[09:39] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: your time would probably be better spent implementing a backup system to avoid that situation
[09:39] <Semtex> wallaby: last LTS was 10.04
[09:39]  * reisio sighs
[09:40] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, its on a RAID but still accidents can hapen, i just want a fast FS, to check and use
[09:40] <llutz_> PhoenixSTF: RAID is no backup-replacemet
[09:40] <locodir-user> useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf
[09:40] <locodir-user> useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf
[09:40] <llutz_> nd
[09:41] <locodir-user> i m trying this commamnd to create
[09:41] <locodir-user> user
[09:41] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, no but its the best i can on a personal budget!
[09:41] <stcatto> hello
[09:41] <locodir-user> but its giving me error
[09:41] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm using 11.10 with gnome-shell. However, compiz is not ran by default. I have to do "compiz --replace &" to start it... I've searched a lot, but don't know where to put this to automatically start compiz. I don't have the traditional "Appearance" utility anymore to enable compiz
[09:41] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: sounds like a waste of time, but I guess you want the -i/-I options
[09:41] <llutz_> PhoenixSTF: bad idea if your data is important
[09:41] <locodir-user> useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:41] <Loopus> does anyone know why all of a sudden my Ubuntu 10.4 says "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in the appearance settings, It was working yesterday... without desktop effects I can not use my Gnome do or Docky...please help :(
[09:42] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, inode size? what do you advice?
[09:42] <reisio> Loopus: what'd you change
[09:42] <Loopus> nothing
[09:42] <Loopus> i turned it off last night
[09:42] <Loopus> turn on today...broke
[09:42] <Loopus> :(
[09:42] <reisio> PhoenixSTF: I already advised using the defaults...
[09:42] <FloodBot1> Loopus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <reisio> Loopus: try rebooting?
[09:42] <Loopus> tried that
[09:42] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, yes i agree data is important, that why raid 5 and a large ups
[09:42] <Satanaa> Anyone else got issues with unity and thunderbird? for me it doesnt show email count :/
[09:42] <locodir-user> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:43] <stcatto> one question, i have a COM port device (Barcode scanner) and i want to connect them like keyboard, how may i do that?
[09:43] <PhoenixSTF> llutz, the RAID 5 is the backup NAS of the home PC's
[09:43] <wallaby>                                               thnks everyone i'm being kicked out of my office fire alarm
[09:43] <PhoenixSTF> reisio, ty m8
[09:44] <stanman246> hi in here, how do i reinitialize audio?
[09:44] <Loopus> at most reisio there have been normal updates
[09:44] <zamba> i'm running a host with lvm in vmware.. i have no increased the size of the disk, but how do i now grow the root partition to fill up the new space?
[09:44] <zamba> can this be done live?
[09:44] <Loopus> but I havent made any changes to drivers etc
[09:44] <stanman246> i somehow fumbled my panning L-R wrong, but can't afford to restart the machine
[09:45] <devians> hey, i have two nics, and something is wrong in the config and keeps overwriting resolve.conf so my dns doesnt work. how to fix?
[09:45] <llutz_> devians: install resolvconf-package, add your dns to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:46] <devians> llutz_ i cant install anything because i cant see the internet atm
[09:46] <llutz_> devians: /etc/resolv.conf is not meant to be edited manually
[09:46] <Loopus> does anyone know why desktop effects would suddenly stop working ? and get "Desktop effects could not be enabled" in the appearance settings. If I try to start docky it says I need to enable COmpositing and then restart docky, anybody any ideas what happened to my graphics ? this was all working yesterday
[09:46] <devians> because for some reason ubuntu is looking for internet on eth0 when it exists on eth1
[09:47] <stcatto> can someone help me with txt input from COM port
[09:47] <darshan> useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later
[09:47] <darshan> whats  is the solution for this error "useradd :cannot lock /etc/passwd .try again later"
[09:47] <jasef> devians, you could try disconnecting the ethernet plug from eth0 to install the package
[09:47] <iceroot> Semtex: login without a password does NOT mean empty password
[09:48] <llutz_> darshan: needs sudo
[09:48] <Loopus> I am using an ATI RV370 5B64 [FireGL V3100 (PCIE)] if thats of any use to anyone
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: it means autologin because your password is stored locally
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: so its not a bug its a feature
[09:48] <Semtex> iceroot: so why can I no longer use sudo?
[09:48] <iceroot> Semtex: what was the error-message of sudo?
[09:48] <llutz_> iceroot: if it breaks sudo-usage, its a bug, not a feature
[09:49] <Semtex> iceroot: incorrect password
[09:49] <darshan> <llutz_
[09:49] <darshan> why
[09:49] <iceroot> llutz_: first i want to see if that is the reason why his sudo is not working anymore
[09:49] <devians> jasef, llutz_ could this be a symptom of misconfiguration in the dhcp server on eth0?
[09:49] <stanman246> can i reset the audio balance?
[09:49] <iceroot> Semtex: you used "passwd" as i suggest you, did you put your old password there? or was it empty?
[09:50] <tottto-drummond> Does someone has manage to get his Lexmark printer work properly with 11.10
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: yeah I just used passwd to set my password again and eveything works fine
[09:50] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: there are many lexmark printers out there
[09:50] <llutz_> devians: sound as it sets default-route to eth0, check the settings
[09:50] <darshan> <llutz_ > i have use command "sudu useradd -m - s /bin/bash opensrf" but then it is not asking me for password to submit while making user
[09:50] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd is asking for the old password first
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: but it doesnt login without a password
[09:50] <Semtex> iceroot: I can do passwd fine
[09:51] <diego_> anyone knows glut library? glut.h?
[09:51] <llutz_> darshan:  sudo
[09:51] <devians> llutz_ where would i check those settings sorry?
dat only ,its an speling mistake ,sorry
[09:51] <iceroot> Semtex: passwd is asking for the current password and my question was, did you put there your current password or did you set it blank and then type 2 times your new password?
[09:51] <llutz_> devians: how did you configure your network? networkmanager, /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:51] <iceroot> !anyone | diego_
[09:51] <devians>  llutz_ /etc/network/interfaces
[09:52] <Semtex> iceroot: I put my current password in
[09:52] <bobba> Hi Guys :) I was hoping someone knew how to listen on an IPv6 address allocated by router advertisement? The address is assigned asynchronisly with bringing the interface up, so is there a hook or callback that can notify me when an address has been allocated?
ans me too frnd
[09:52] <iceroot> Semtex: so the option from the gui didnt set the password emtpy
[09:52] <iceroot> Semtex: what ubuntu-version?
[09:52] <llutz_> devians: specify "gateway"
[09:52] <Semtex> iceroot: latest 11.10
[09:52] <jvm_> with the ubuntu 10.04 system update yesterday 3D effects stopped working for me. anyone else having that problem?
[09:53] <iceroot> Semtex: the gui came from unity? or what are you uisng?
[09:53] <Semtex> iceroot: the gui must have
[09:53] <Semtex> iceroot: gnome-classic
[09:53] <llutz_> darshan: sudo won't ask for a password, if you already used it before (within 15 minutes or so)
[09:53] <Semtex> llutz_: I closed the terminal each time to check
[09:53] <Semtex> llutz_:  to get around that
[09:53] <darshan> ya but i need to login through it
[09:53] <llutz_> Semtex: wasn't for you
[09:54] <darshan> so when i loggin through it,why does it ask
[09:54] <Satanaa> Oh i found a fix for unity and thunderbird
[09:54] <iceroot> Semtex: so that i can reproduce the "bug" you set "dont ask for a password on login" after that, sudo was not working anymore
[09:54] <iceroot> Semtex: and said that the password for sudo was wrong
[09:54] <Satanaa> an thunderbird addon called "Unity Launcher Integration"
[09:54] <Semtex> iceroot: yes, it is all in my video http://www.exile8.webspace.virginmedia.com/test-0000.mpeg
ya but i need to login through it, so when i loggin through it,why does it ask
[09:55] <iceroot> Semtex: i cant watch videos here
[09:55] <Semtex> iceroot: that should make it easy to reproduce
[09:55] <Semtex> iceroot: ahh ok
[09:55] <tottto-drummond> iceroot I have a Lexmark X4690 the scanner works ok but I'm unable to print
[09:55] <llutz_> darshan: sry cannot follow you.
[09:56] <tottto-drummond> iceroot with 11.04 everything was working ok
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: working fine here
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: so i guess you misstyped your password
[09:56] <Semtex> hmm
[09:56] <Semtex> iceroot: typed my password wrong where?
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: and that option in the gui is not changing /etc/shadow and not /etc/passwd and sudo is only using that files
[09:56] <darshan>  <llutz_>i want to loggin through my new user ,but as sudo doesnt allow to set password ,how could i give password at login time
[09:56] <Semtex> iceroot: and I have done this a number of times to be sure
[09:56] <iceroot> Semtex: at sudo
[09:57] <Semtex> iceroot: no I am 100% typing my right password
[09:57] <iceroot> Semtex: hm
[09:57] <llutz_> darshan: after creating the user, "sudo password <newusername>" to set a password
[09:57] <Semtex> iceroot: in the vid I try to show that
[09:57] <iceroot> Semtex: i cant watch videos here :( so i guess someone else must have a look there
[09:58] <llutz_> darshan: next time use "sudo adduser username" to create new users
[09:58] <Semtex> iceroot: no worries, I have fixed it enough for what I need so thanks for your help
[09:58] <Semtex> iceroot: I have posted a topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1865468
[09:58] <iceroot> Semtex: ok
[10:02] <roy_> what the hell
[10:02] <roy_> where is everyone
[10:02] <iceroot> roy_: /n
[10:02] <phlak_user> roy_: waiting
[10:03] <tottto-drummond> iceroot have u got any idea on what I could do to fix my printer probleme
[10:03] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: only to have a look at lexmark if they are offering drivers
[10:03] <iceroot> !printer | tottto-drummond
[10:04] <cosmos123> hello
[10:04] <iceroot> hm there was a cups-site which is showing what printer is working imo
[10:04] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: ^
[10:04] <iceroot> or was that only for scanners (sane) i dont know
[10:05] <cosmos123> can you tell me how to install gdm2setup in natty?
[10:05] <reisio> if you're using an HP, you'll want to check the hplip site first
[10:05] <tottto-drummond> iceroot it s kinda of a regression to see my printer working with 11.04 but not with 11.10 right ?
[10:05] <iceroot> tottto-drummond: yes
[10:05] <cosmos123> can u help
[10:06] <vijvij> sudo apt-get build-dep firefox gives me http://pastebin.com/P3rUkXUS . Am using lucid thanks for your help
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apss'
[10:07] <cosmos123> gdm ppa is not working
[10:07] <iceroot> cosmos123: as it seems gdm2setup is some setup-tool for gnome2?
[10:07] <HRT> hello, ubuntu 11.10, can I make ATI Radeon HD 5470+Intel graphics embedded incore i3 work well on ubuntu 11.10? can I enable compiz on them??
[10:07] <mkultra>  i moved my /bin/sh simlink to bash
[10:07] <devians> how can i mount a cifs share under a user rather than root?
[10:08] <mkultra> devians symlink?
[10:08] <phlak_user> vijvij: satisfy those unmet dependencies by installing them
[10:08] <cosmos123> iceroot: can you help me in installing it?
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> I have a prob in Kubuntu 11.10, Every time I start my system , the Volume gets set to mute?
[10:08] <kamilnadeem> That means after every boot I have to uncheck mute from the mixer
[10:08] <iceroot> cosmos123: there is no gnome2 in 11.10 anymore
[10:08] <vijvij> phlak_user : Do we have a command which automatically downloads all the dependencies?
[10:08] <iceroot> cosmos123: so i dont think that tool is helping you
[10:09] <cosmos123> cosmos123: I am using ubuntu natty 11.04
[10:09] <phlak_user> vijvij: not that i know
[10:09] <iceroot> vijvij: the problem is not that it is not automatilcy downloading dependiecies
[10:10] <cosmos123> iceroot: I tried using the ppa but it wont work.
[10:10] <iceroot> vijvij: the problem is that you have installed packages in different versions and so the dependecies doesnt fit anymore (as the error-message says)
[10:10] <iceroot> cosmos123: hm i dont think you get what i am trying to tell you
[10:10] <raven> self compiled ffmpeg with mpeg4 - "parser not found" for any codec - what could have been went wrong there?
[10:11] <cosmos123> iceroot: say what?
[10:11] <iceroot> vijvij: can you paste "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:11] <vijvij> iceroot : sure
[10:11] <iceroot> cosmos123: as it seems the tool is for gnome2-configuration but there is no gnome2 anymore
[10:12] <BoomerBile> i can ssh to my machine but rsync isn't working... any reasons i could be having this problem?
[10:12] <kamilnadeem> Any fix ?
[10:12] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: is rsync installed?
[10:12] <vijvij> iceroot : Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS \n \l   ---cat issue..
[10:12] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, yes
[10:13] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: also what is the command you use to invoke rsync
[10:13] <cosmos123> iceroot: I am actually using linux mint 11, which is actually having only gnome, so I think you can help me out....
[10:13] <BoomerBile> rsync -azv metaphaze@host-ommitted:/home/metaphaze/MyWork/ /home/user/MyWork/ --port=11120
[10:13] <vijvij> iceroot : http://pastebin.com/PdHwmAPf this is sources.list
[10:14] <phlak_user> vijvij: dude where are the other repos? i see only multiverse there
[10:15] <phlak_user> vijvij: nm you've put them all in one line
[10:15] <vijvij> phlak_user : this is all I have. Should I include other repos? can you help me make a proper sources.list file.
[10:15] <Morgz> is there an easy way i can disable network manager so i can try wicd (but so I can revert easily if I choose to?)
[10:16] <BoomerBile> Morgz, i'm using them both at the same time
[10:16] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, my rsync command is a few lines up
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apps'
[10:17] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: are you using rsync over ssh or rsyncd?
[10:18] <BoomerBile> rsync over ssh, i've even tried the --rsh=ssh option
[10:18] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: cos that command requires that you run rsyncd on the remote.
[10:18] <BoomerBile> which command? the one i showed you? your wrong...
[10:18] <BoomerBile> to require an rsyncd server on the remote i would have to double up my ::
[10:19] <newuser> da privet
[10:19] <orated> Hello! What is default path to the running kernel header?
[10:19] <pratz> hey guys on my other computer the ip address is automatically taken by dhcp, though i insert all the ip info manually , any idea ?
[10:19] <pratz> i am using 10.04
[10:19] <vijvij> phlak_user : http://pastebin.com/40YsKm9f does this look like a good sources.list?
[10:20] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: here is how i do it rsync -avPe ssh someuser@x.y.z.w:/home/somethingto/backup .
[10:20] <newuser> /usr/share/linux-headers-...
[10:20] <pratz> when i restart my computer the staticlly given ip address is automatically converted to DHCP manually
[10:20] <phlak_user> pratz: where do you insert them?
[10:20] <pratz> phlak_user: in network manager
[10:20] <pratz> phlak_user: i am using gnome desktop
[10:21] <pratz> phlak_user: when i restart my computer the network manager also shows "automatically DHCP"
[10:21] <phlak_user> pratz: ok; and you saved it with a name? just click on the nm icon and select the profile you saved
[10:22] <Hc96> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. Everytime I change my /etc/hosts and restart it, it is reverted. The file _is_ modified after editing it (checked with cat)
[10:22] <newuser> network manager -> edit-connection -> wired
[10:22] <orated> newuser: I don't see the headers in /usr/share/ ..
[10:22] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, that's the same thing i'm doing... the only difference is the -P which wouldn't matter...
[10:23] <newuser> you may install it via synaptic manager or sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[10:23] <orated> newuser: I've it installed. I just want to know the path where it is located
[10:23] <pratz> phlak_user: just give me a sec dude
[10:23] <HRT> hello, ubuntu 11.10, can I make ATI Radeon HD 5470+Intel graphics embedded incore i3 work well on ubuntu 11.10? can I enable compiz on them??
[10:23] <newuser> find / | grep headers
[10:24] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: where have you asked it to use ssh in that command?
[10:24] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: and if you did you wouldnt need to specify the port (only in 'ssh -p non-standard-port)
[10:25] <iceroot> orated: /usr/src/linux-headers-)
[10:25] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, i told you i tried the --rsh=ssh which is the same as -e ssh
[10:25] <iceroot> orated: /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:25] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, and i have to specify a non-standard port because i don't have a daemon listening on a standard one
[10:25] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: so what errors are you getting?
[10:26] <darshan> i am not able to swith to root user,i am running command su - root,and i dont knew password for it
[10:26] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: my crystal ball is a little fuzzy right now
[10:26] <TehDGM> phlak_user use sudo
[10:26] <jasef> darshan, run sudo -i instead, it gives you a root terminal
[10:26] <iceroot> !sudo | darshan
[10:26] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6057]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc)
[10:26] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6056]: (CRON) error (grandchild #6057 failed with exit status 1) <--- why am I getting this?
[10:26] <iceroot> jasef: we dont like root-shells here, so sudo command is the suggested way
[10:27] <orated> Thanks iceroot
[10:27] <BoomerBile> ssh: connect to host x.y.z.w port 22: connection timed out... which is funny cause i'm not trying to connect to port 22... and yes i've tried specifying the port like this as well user@x.y.z.w:port/directory/
[10:27] <jasef> iceroot, Lol, is it bad that I use sudo -i or sudo su then? :P
[10:27] <iceroot> BoomerBile: ssh -p port user@host
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: sudo su is wrong
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: technical
[10:27] <iceroot> jasef: sudo -i is bad
[10:27] <BoomerBile> iceroot, yeah that works fine..
[10:27] <zniavre> good afternoon
[10:27] <iDorito> Hey guys, it's me, Linus Torvalds. I uh... I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. I was wrong.
[10:28] <BoomerBile> iceroot, but i'm trying to rsync not ssh
[10:28] <iDorito> I was wrong about Linux. Please clear the channel. Thanks.
[10:28] <jasef> Nice fail there, Mr. Troll
[10:28] <zniavre> im using gnome(3.2) + xfce4-panel with indicator-plugin it seems they are reversed http://i.imgur.com/szLEx.png  how to put them in a good arder please ?
[10:28] <zniavre> order*
[10:28] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: which is why you need to specify the port in rsync -e 'ssh -p 1234' and not outside
[10:28] <iDorito> No it's Torvalds, not Troll, though the names sound similar.
[10:29] <BoomerBile> heh, i have been doing this for years, i don't understand why i have to specify anything extra now... but ok
[10:29] <jasef> iceroot, I use sudo su for longer commands like "sudo su -c 'apt get update && apt-get upgrade'" so they function correctly, and cause I don't want to type sudo twice
[10:29] <pratz> phlak_user: hey dude i kind of lost the network icon , any ideas ?
[10:29] <phlak_user> pratz: nope
[10:29] <orated> iceroot: No, its not there either
[10:29] <phlak_user> pratz: what did you do to loose it?
[10:30] <raven> since 11.10 vlc plays videos async ~-600 ms audio - what is the problem here?
[10:30] <BoomerBile> they change rsync? the man page is not the same...
[10:30] <phlak_user> jasef:  couldnt you encapsulate them in backticks sudo `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade`
[10:31] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: you didnt read the Manual first? r
[10:31] <jasef> phlak_user, Yeah, I suppose I could. I guess I'm just too used to using debian as a server :P (and I know I can install sudo there too.)
[10:31] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, back in 1995 i read the manual... haven't needed to since then
[10:32] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: ah good for you;
[10:32] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: so does it work now like it should?
[10:33] <Zylum> what's the terminal command to open the gnome main menu editor?
[10:33] <BoomerBile> yeah it's working... just like it should... i'm checking to see if this is an ubuntu thing or just something some retard did to make rsync easier for other retards
[10:33] <Yyharssargyhaell> Zylum: gconf-editor
[10:33] <Zylum> ok where in that are the main menu settings?
[10:34] <lyrae> Hi. I haven't done this in a while. but which file do i edit to automount a drive on boot? fstab?
[10:34] <Yyharssargyhaell> Zylum: uh... My bad - I think it's alacarte
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> how can i modify Dash? it should open with 'More Apss'
[10:34] <Zylum> that's it, thanks :)
[10:34] <orated> iceroot: $ uname -a gives - Linux   3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux and $ /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) gives - bash: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic: No such file or directory
[10:34] <phlak_user> BoomerBile: you're welcome
[10:34] <godfatherofeir1> Quick question, what section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here).
[10:35] <BoomerBile> phlak_user, must be because i'm going through a couple firewalls and this free attnet free wifi must be complicating things... and thanks
[10:35] <phlak_user> lyrae: /etc/fstab
[10:37] <Kartagis> Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6057]: (iegg) CMD (/usr/bin/znc) / Oct 20 13:20:01 vps CRON[6056]: (CRON) error (grandchild #6057 failed with exit status 1) <--- what can I do about this?
[10:37] <zoLevDotCom> Hello, guys!
[10:37] <Hc96> Hi! my changes in /etc/hosts are lost after reboot, but work before reboot. Whtats wrong there?
[10:37] <Kartagis> !hostname | Hc96,
[10:38] <Kartagis> !hostname | Hc96
[10:38] <phlak_user> !repeat | Kartagis
[10:38] <darshan> when i want to switch as root user it is asking me password,
[10:38] <Kartagis> sorry
[10:38] <osse> How can I add users to groups in Ubuntu 11.10 through the GUI?
[10:39] <Hc96> Kartagis: I think it has nothing to do with hostname, since I dont want to change my hostname
[10:39] <phlak_user> darshan: youre not following the right way to do it. just type sudo -i ; when it asks you for password, enter you normal user password
[10:39] <darshan> my default root user is something like dev11 and password dream something,so wat password should i give to switch to root user
[10:39] <Kartagis> Hc96: if you do it in /etc/hostname, it won't be lost in reboot I believe
[10:40] <phlak_user> osse: in dash home type users in the search bar; click on User Accounts that show up in the results
[10:40] <BoomerBile> Kartagis, you can check your logs for more reasons it failed
[10:40] <phlak_user> darshan: dream something
[10:40] <lyrae> PHLAK, thanks
[10:40] <Kartagis> BoomerBile: no further logs
[10:40] <lyrae> phlak_user, thanks
[10:41] <phlak_user> lyrae: yw
[10:41] <Hc96> Kartagis: I think in Hostname I can only change my hostname? But I want to set an alias for a specific IP I often need to connect to. So I have to change /etc/hosts
[10:41] <osse> phlak_user, I've been there and I can change some basic settings for my user, but not groups :(
[10:41] <godfatherofeir1> Quick question, what section should I insert into xorg.conf and what options should I throw to disable the hardware cursor (using the FGLRX driver here).
[10:41] <Kartagis> oh
[10:41] <OerHeks> osse there is a wiki for users/groups > https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[10:42] <BoomerBile> Hc96, what are you trying to do?
[10:42] <trussrod> go #bookz
[10:43] <sinosoidal> hi
[10:43] <BoomerBile> hc96 open /etc/hosts... add a line like this... w.x.y.z<tab>fully-qualified-domain-name<tab>nickname
[10:43] <sinosoidal> is there any version of ubuntu with xinput 2.1 with multitouch support being shipped already?
[10:43] <trussrod> #join bookz