[11:08] <adhemar> hello
[11:09] <adhemar> I have a problem with Ubuntu One: i can't access my folders trough the 'Go to Web' option.
[11:09] <adhemar> I'am on Kubuntu
[11:39] <teknico> adhemar, it works for me, it runs Konqueror on https://ubuntuone.com/files/
[11:39] <teknico> oh, he's gone already
[13:22] <facundobatista> Hola a todos
[13:26]  * jblount scowls at the sun
[15:01] <jblount> MEETIN BEGINS
[15:01] <vds> me
[15:01] <jblount> or MEETING BEGINS
[15:01] <jblount> me
[15:01] <urbanape> me
[15:01] <CardinalFang> me
[15:01] <dobey> me
[15:01] <teknico> me
[15:02] <dobey> jblount: in the south, the G is silent
[15:02] <vds> dobey: so it will be meetin beins ? :)
[15:02] <jblount> statik: ?, rodrigo_: ?
[15:02] <teknico> in Florence, the C is silent
[15:03] <statik> me
[15:03] <rodrigo_> me
[15:03] <jblount> vds: You!
[15:03] <vds> DONE: worked on funambol ds config nearly done, need to fix some detail before I propose it, planning session with the other guys of the team.
[15:03] <vds> TODO: finish this branch
[15:03] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <dobey> vds: indeed
[15:03] <vds> jblount: your turn
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: some email content stuff, some javascript bug triage
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: finish upgrade path stuff, ping urbanape about path to js freedom
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: nossir
[15:03] <jblount> urbanape: tagged!
[15:03] <urbanape> DONE: Gained more context for new files UI.  Put together the start of a Makefile for Bindwood, stealing some of the linty goodness from ubunet, and provide for .xpi building and dev linking.
[15:03] <urbanape> (SUN)BLOCK: SPF 70. It's a beautiful day outside.
[15:03] <urbanape> CardinalFang: The comfy chair, if you please
[15:04] <CardinalFang> DONE: Helped figure out Spawning and how we can use it.
[15:04] <CardinalFang> TODO: Bastille Day!  On-call review.  Write Spawning factory that reads our config/ and uses LAZR to load and configure middleware.
[15:04] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: No.
[15:04] <CardinalFang> >>> mtg.pop()  ->  'dobey'
[15:04] <dobey> DONE: MIR wiki page updates, Tarmac branch to use preserver reviewers for a branch
[15:04] <dobey> TODO: Finish setup.py removal, UL/DL status notifications, syncdaemon start-up error reporting
[15:04] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:04] <dobey> teknico: ciao
[15:04] <teknico> DONE: planning session for w13, fixed an error in contacts web UI tests, refactored the createCouchContacts.py script
[15:04] <teknico> TODO: adding more contacts web UI tests
[15:04] <teknico> BLOCKED: nothing
[15:04] <teknico> NEXT: statik
[15:04] <statik> DONE: worked on spawning for WSGI (finally got working packages in the PPA). Updated packages for simplesettings and functest in REVU. A few code reviews.
[15:04] <statik> TODO: Publish desktop-contacts python module. Make an ubuntu package for lp:bindwood. Maybe make a package for desktopcouch if chad is still busy with wsgi. Several 1:1 phone calls.
[15:04] <statik> BLCK: None.
[15:04] <statik> rodrigo_, your turn
[15:04] <rodrigo_> DONE: tried to do some more tomboy syncing testing, but make start is failing for me. Integrated couchdb-glib and evo-couchdb in code review. Package newest tomboy (jaunty failed, so that's missing)
[15:05] <rodrigo_> TODO: tomboy sync testing, more evo-couchdb work to make it store the UUIDs of email and postal addresses and phones
[15:05] <rodrigo_> BLOCKED: postgres seems borked in karmic, at least for me, which makes start not work
[15:06] <rodrigo_> no more me's AFAICS
[15:06] <jblount> ZOMG AWESOME MEETING ENDS
[15:06]  * CardinalFang uploads severl photos to Flickr, "Ubuntu Artwork".
[15:06] <statik> heh, urbanape i just made a branch that builds an xpi file. maybe we can share?
[15:06] <urbanape> sure
[15:06] <rodrigo_> is anyone running karmic?
[15:06] <statik> rodrigo_, i am
[15:06] <jblount> urbanape: I just guilted pfibiger into reviewing that bindwood branch, you should totally bother him about it in a few hours.
[15:06] <rodrigo_> statik: what version of postgres do you have installed?
[15:06] <rodrigo_> statik: I've got 8.3 but pg_config says it's 8.4
[15:07] <urbanape> jblount: thanks
[15:07] <rodrigo_> statik: and so fails when trying to run commands in /usr/lib/postgres/$version
[15:07] <statik> rodrigo_, i have postgresql-8.3 installed, and a separate packages postgresql-8.4 that is available for installation
[15:07] <rodrigo_> hmm
[15:07] <urbanape> statik: I was thinking also of adding a simple "make dev" that would create the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>file pointing to the src directory. That will be easier for developers so that changes are more easily updated.
[15:08] <statik> rodrigo_, i am seeing that pg_config reports 8.4 though
[15:08] <rodrigo_> statik: ah, I'll try installing the 8.4 packages then
[15:08] <statik> urbanape, that sounds great!
[15:08] <statik> urbanape, what i have so far is adapting the xpi build script from the ubufox package
[15:09] <statik> urbanape, i'll push it up for review and feel free to reject any of it depending on how well it meshes with what you have
[15:09] <urbanape> should be just a matter of zipping up the contents and renaming the zip file .xpi
[15:09] <urbanape> k
[15:09] <urbanape> well, it was on my TODO, so I hadn't gotten to it yet. I'll just springboard off what you have.
[15:10] <statik> urbanape, one thing i'm not sure about, the build script wanted me to move the subdirs out of chrome/ and put them at the base level. i don't know whether that breaks anything
[15:10] <urbanape> don't think you want to do that.
[15:11] <urbanape> I'll take a look
[15:11] <statik> thanks
[15:12] <urbanape> ah, I see.
[15:12] <urbanape> well, that's all arbitrary. the chrome.manifest describes the layout of the content, locale, and skin directories.
[15:12] <urbanape> so, yeah, that should be fine, as long as the manifest is updated to play along.
[15:12] <statik> yeah, i updated it
[15:12] <urbanape> perfect
[15:13] <statik> urbanape: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~statik/bindwood/build-stuff/+merge/8750 for your enjoyment
[15:13] <urbanape> looking now
[15:13] <statik> urbanape, once we are happy with that, i should be able to layer a debian package on top pretty easily
[15:13] <urbanape> sw00t
[15:13] <statik> i get an error message while running the build script though, while trying to copy one of the files. and i haven't yet tested that the generated XPI installs and works
[15:15] <urbanape> sounds like a good test case for review.
[15:17] <statik> ah, the error message is just because we don't have any files in defaults to copy in
[15:17] <statik> probably harmless
[15:23] <urbanape> brb, rebootie
[15:34] <statik> urbanape, the xpi i built seems to be installing fine, but i don't see any records in my system couchdb. do i need to do anything special?
[15:35] <urbanape> hmm, it should be pushing on startup. Another of the things aquarius and I talked about was keeping the debug info, but only surfacing it on either a debug build or with some prefs or something.
[15:36] <urbanape> we've stripped a lot of the debug logging out.
[15:36] <motyR> Hi
[15:36] <motyR> i have problem autorizing or adding my computer
[15:37] <motyR> "u1sync --authorize"    gives me   "Error: no display specified"
[15:37] <motyR> what can i do?
[15:38] <motyR> anyone?
[15:38] <statik> hi SteveA: mentalguy just called me, and asked me to let everyone know that his cable modem is out again, but he isn't going to a coffee shop to get back online because the repairman is scheduled to arrive soon, and hopefully can fix the problem since it's happening while the repairman is there. he still wants to have his call with you today though.
[15:39] <statik> urbanape, will it push to the system couchdb i have running on the default port, or do i need to do something special? is there a couchdb log that i can look at to see if it even connected?
[15:40] <urbanape> it does the dbus scan now, but should fall back on 5984
[15:42] <dobey> motyR: i presume the issue is that gnome-keyring wants to open a dialog to ask you the passphrase for your keyring, but it doesn't have an access to a display because $DISPLAY is unset in your environment
[15:43] <motyR> dobey, i'll check it, 10x
[15:43] <motyR> dobey, env | grep DISPL
[15:43] <motyR> DISPLAY=:0.0
[15:44] <dobey> motyR: are you trying to run it over ssh?
[15:44] <motyR> nop
[15:45] <dobey> motyR: how are you running it?
[15:45] <wzk> ubuntuone's icon is spinning all the time and i can't add my computer to it (running Jaunty x86_64).. help?
[15:46] <motyR> dobey, amm form the menu
[15:46] <motyR> ubuntuone-client-applet
[15:46] <dobey> motyR: there is no menu item for u1sync
[15:46] <motyR> and "u1sync --authorize" from console
[15:47] <motyR> gives same error
[15:47] <dobey> running ubuntuone-client-applet teslls you that "no display specified"?
[15:47] <motyR> yes
[15:48] <dobey> odd indeed
[15:48] <motyR> :S
[15:48] <dobey> does the icon appear in the tray with ubuntuone-client-applet?
[15:48] <motyR> yes
[15:49] <motyR> and i have no keyring for ubuntu one yet
[15:49] <dobey> you're using GNOME on Jaunty? or something else?
[15:50] <motyR> jaunty
[15:50] <motyR> gnome
[15:50] <dobey> have you tried logging out and back in?
[15:51] <motyR> amm i've installed the app before i had the subscription if that helps
[15:51] <dobey> that doesn't matter
[15:51] <motyR> i'll try that, couldnt hurt
[15:51] <motyR> BRB
[15:51] <motyR> 10x
[15:51] <dobey> it seems like the problem is that the keyring daemon doens't know about the display
[15:57] <motyR> dobey, amm same error :/
[16:01] <dobey> motyR: very weird. it's like your gnome-keyring daemon is getting started without knowing about the DISPLAY
[16:40] <CardinalFang> dobey: instead of os.uname() for puternames, I think platform.dist() is prettier.
[17:01] <teknico> ehi face, ;-) how do I restart the sync daemon, just for testing?
[17:18] <teknico> ok, u1sdtool --quit
[17:20] <verterok> teknico: or just quit the applet, it should quit syncdaemon too
[17:21] <teknico> verterok, it didn't, but then again I'm on KDE
[17:21] <teknico> maybe that's the problem
[17:22] <verterok> teknico: it shouldn't be a problem, it's just a dbus call :/
[17:23] <cliffb> Hi, quick question.  I'd like to report a minor bug in the web interface. All the bug links on the website direct me to the ubuntuone-client launchpad.  Should I put my bug there, or in the ubunet launchpad?
[17:23] <verterok> teknico: if the share was created via webui, yes. there is no notifications between webui/storage server
[17:23] <verterok> teknico: but there is no need to restart to refresh the shares, just do:  u1sdtool --refresh-shares ;)
[17:24] <verterok> cliffb: don't know for sure, so file it in ubuntuone-client :)
[17:24] <teknico> verterok, great, thanks, I hadn't noticed that one
[17:25] <cliffb> verterok: k, thanks.  :-)
[17:26] <cliffb> verterok: Actually, your chat with teknico prompts another question.  I don't seem to be able to click the Sharing tab on the web interface.  Is sharing currently disabled, or is there a different way to share?
[17:26] <verterok> cliffb: depends on the context, only folders can be shared
[17:27] <cliffb> verterok: Ah, that explains it!  Thanks.
[17:27] <verterok> cliffb: np :)
[17:30] <dobey> clearly the web ui needs to show the sharing tab in reference to the folder the selected file is in, rather than being disabled
[18:13] <jblount> dobey: That kind of makes sense, although it would have to be clear that it's referencing the surrounding folder.
[18:15] <dobey> jblount: well disabling or hiding it doesn't make sense. it is VERY difficult to get the selection back to only being on the folder
[18:16] <jblount> dobey: That might be the true problem, but I agree mostly about dealing with the surrounding folder.
[18:16] <pfibiger> dobey i think we considered that, but didn't want people to believe they were sharing only a file, but end up sharing an entire folder.
[18:16] <pfibiger> at least, when disabled, it could open and say "you can only share folders. select a folder to share" or something
[18:18] <dobey> it really should behave more like nautilus
[18:20] <verterok> dobey: don't know about trying to make it like a desktop app. it's a web ui, it shoulld behave more like a web ui file browser, a good one :)
[18:21] <dobey> eh, well a file browser is a file browser. it doesn't matter if it's on the web or on the desktop
[18:22] <dobey> perhaps the sharing tab is just the wrong answer and it should have a label bar at the top of the files list, like we have in nautilus for the ubuntu one folders
[18:22] <dobey> and it can have a [share this folder] button or something
[18:22] <verterok> dobey: yes it matter,  one is a desktop app, the other is a web page ;)
[18:22] <verterok> dobey: I think the new ui is doing something like that
[18:22] <dobey> verterok: that doesn't give one the right to make inconsistent/broken UI :)
[18:23] <dobey> well then, all the more reason to get it done and deployed :)
[18:23] <verterok> dobey: absolutely no! I fully agrre that it should be better
[18:23] <verterok> *agree
[18:24] <verterok> dobey: I'm just thinking loud: IMO, trying to mimic desktop apps in the web is a dead end
[18:24] <dobey> the UI should be as consistent as possible. there are different ways that people use nautilus on the desktop even.
[18:24] <dobey> verterok: i didn't say mimic
[18:24] <dobey> verterok: i said behave more consistently
[18:24]  * jblount hugs verterok
[18:25] <jblount> mimicing the desktop is a bad idea (but I see that dobey didn't say that)
[18:25]  * verterok blushes
[18:25] <dobey> the web and desktop are both dead ends. mobile devices and services are where the money is :)
[18:25] <jblount> dobey: I don't want the money, give me something useful. :)
[18:26] <rmcbride> you young whippersnappers and your fancy graphics. telnet, ftp and gopher FTW!
[18:26] <verterok> dobey: hah! :)
[18:26] <dobey> jblount: you can exchange money for goods and services... like hipster music albums and beer
[18:26]  * rmcbride looks around for his cane and his medication
[18:27] <dobey> hrmm, firefox actually takes longer to quit than to start up
[18:27] <dobey> how quaint
[18:33] <jblount> dobey: Apparently I'm a hippy (currently trying out the "don't shave until you look like a hobo" look) so no need for money. ;)
[18:35] <pfibiger> jblount: you are a 'hippie', or you can be 'hippy'
[18:35] <pfibiger> your choice :)
[18:36] <rmcbride> jblount: I just orderd this shirt from woot! last night: http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootsaleimages/The_Filthy_Hippies287Detail.png
[18:36] <dobey> nice
[18:36] <jblount> something
[18:37] <jblount> http://store.muledesign.com/featured/one-less-hippie.php
[18:38] <rmcbride> hehe
[18:39] <JamalFanaian> jblount: haha, that site has funny shirts
[18:39] <jblount> JamalFanaian: Agreed.
[18:40] <dobey> o/~ livin the hobo life, cuttin with my hobo knife o/~
[19:09] <philsf> how can I configure ubuntu one applet? I can't find any preferences menu or window, and it seems not to know my login credentials
[19:10] <x2mirko> hi, i've got some problems installing the client. mainly, the link which should add the PPA to my sources list does not work. Can anyone tell me which PPA to add to my sources?
[19:11] <philsf> this is what I get when I open the applet from the command line http://paste.ubuntu.com/218176/
[19:12] <philsf> x2mirko, the link should download a deb package
[19:14] <jblount> verterok: Hi! Will you build a gtk lp frontend ? please?
[19:15] <x2mirko> philsf: right. it does. I can even install it, but it does not add anything to my sources.
[19:17] <philsf> x2mirko, then the link works. how exactly did you find that it didn't add anything, after you installed it?
[19:18] <x2mirko> well, i've checked my third-party-sources
[19:19] <x2mirko> nothing new in there
[19:19] <verterok> jblount: lo que? whaat?
[19:19] <verterok> jblount: gtk?
[19:20] <pfibiger> x2mirko: it is added in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:20] <jblount> verterok: You are smart with the LP api, I hate adding one tag to multiple bugs, it's so slow, so I want a small gtk front end. pfibiger wants it to, but he's scared to ask you :)
[19:20] <pfibiger> ubuntuone.list and ubuntuone-sources.list
[19:21] <verterok> jblount: heh
[19:21] <pfibiger> philsf: this is the bug you're experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/376087
[19:22] <verterok> jblount: I'm not a gtk guy, but I think there is a project that is a lp frontend
[19:22] <verterok> jblount: only to edit tags?
[19:22] <x2mirko> found it. ok. next problem: the next link REALLY does not work :D (the "install" one) - clicking it just does exactly nothing (i've read the note and tried clicking it twice, but it does not work)
[19:22] <verterok> jblount: only to edit bugs?
[19:22] <verterok> jblount: I could do it qt
[19:23] <philsf> pfibiger, it seems so, thanks. Differently from the title, my applet starts, with a disconnected status
[19:23] <verterok> jblount: or I can teach hal to do that (more karma to verterok :p )
[19:23] <pfibiger> philsf: it looks like it might be a firefox location issue
[19:23] <jblount> verterok: heh, you should teak hal to do it! that would be fun :)
[19:23] <philsf> pfibiger, hmm, I'm using FF3.5, could it be it?
[19:24] <jblount> verterok: like this " hal <search team on lp showing some bugs> <new-tag-name> "
[19:24] <jblount> s/teak/teach
[19:24] <pfibiger> philsf: possibly. how did you install ff3.5?
[19:24] <pfibiger> philsf: do you still have ff3 installed?
[19:24] <philsf> pfibiger, from the repo. I'm using Jaunty
[19:24] <philsf> pfibiger, I still have 3.0, yes
[19:25] <pfibiger> try making 3.0 your default browser for right now
[19:25] <pfibiger> and see if it connects correctly
[19:27] <philsf> pfibiger,  wow, I don't remember logging in u1 from ff3, but somehow it got logged. I thought the cookies were separated in different dirs
[19:28] <pfibiger> philsf: are you able to log in now?
[19:29] <philsf> pfibiger, no, same error from the applet
[19:29] <philsf> afaict
[19:34] <dobey> philsf: the error is UnknownLoginError?
[19:34] <philsf> dobey, yes, it is
[19:35] <pfibiger> oh, i was thrown by the warning. sorry.
[19:35] <dobey> yeah, the deprecation warnings are annoying
[19:35] <pfibiger> dobey: would it make sense to blow away his oauth token, see if that helps?
[19:36] <dobey> i don't think he has one
[19:36] <dobey> since that error is from the oauth token getting code
[19:36] <philsf> dobey, so, how do I configure the applet to know my login?
[19:37] <dobey> philsf: are you behind a proxy?
[19:38] <philsf> dobey, no
[19:41] <philsf> dobey, this is the bug that caused my problems Bug #369038
[19:42] <philsf> I'll subscribe to it, and wait
[19:44] <philsf> dobey, how exactly does the u1 authenticate? does it read cookies from the firefox profile dir?
[19:45] <statik> hurrah, a couchdb editing widget from rickspencer! https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rick-rickspencer3/desktopcouch/couchwidget/+merge/8768
[19:45] <CardinalFang> Ooo.
[19:46] <dobey> philsf: i thought you said you were getting UnknownLoginError?
[19:46] <dobey> philsf: what error are you getting *exactly*?
[19:47] <philsf> dobey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/218176/
[19:47] <dobey> philsf: ok, that is not the browser failing to start then :)
[19:48] <philsf> dobey, no :)
[19:48] <philsf> but this happened before. I never got through step 4, in the tutorial
[19:49] <dobey> yes, but there are many things that could go wrong
[19:49] <philsf> I thought missing step 4 was the cause of this login problem, since I didn't add my computer to the conf
[19:49] <dobey> i should just smack aquarius
[19:50] <dobey> because UnknownLoginError is totally misleading
[19:50] <dobey> it seems to raise that exception when there is an issue getting the request token from the server (not the access token or anything else)
[19:51] <statik> ok, but wait to smack him until after oscon, we want him charming and charismatic for his oscon talk
[19:55] <dobey> philsf: at the end of your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log file, is there a line that reads something like: "There was some unknown login error" ?
[19:59]  * philsf checks
[20:00] <philsf> yes
[20:02] <dobey> philsf: cool, can you pastebin that bit of the log?
[20:02] <philsf> it's followed by '(60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')'
[20:02] <dobey> ah ha
[20:02] <pfibiger> huh!
[20:03] <dobey> oh fun
[20:03] <pfibiger> we should see if he has the godaddy ca file installed correctly.
[20:03] <philsf> the contents of an error session: http://paste.ubuntu.com/218229/
[20:05] <dobey> philsf: do you have /etc/ssl/certs/Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pem on your system?
[20:06] <philsf> yup /etc/ssl/certs/Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pem -> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.crt
[20:07] <dobey> philsf: if you run "sudo update-ca-certificates" and then run the ubuntuone-client-applet again, do you get the same error?
[20:08] <philsf> same error
[20:08] <philsf> 2009-07-14 16:08:09,771:771.941900253 UbuntuOne.OAuthDesktop.auth There was some unknown login error '(60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')'
[20:11] <pfibiger> dobey: shouldn't he be looking for the Ubuntuone-*.pems
[20:12] <dobey> pfibiger: oauthdesktop doesn't use them afaik
[20:14] <pfibiger> well, i was looking for where oauthdesktop was getting its ssl context
[20:14] <dobey> pfibiger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/218239/
[20:14] <dobey> pfibiger: that's the relevant piece of code
[20:14] <dobey> i would be quite happy to get rid of pycurl
[20:14] <pfibiger> and it doesn't appear to be in that code, so maybe it's getting it elsewhere, where we do use them?
[20:14] <dobey> we don't in oauthdesktop afaik
[20:15] <pfibiger> ah ok
[20:15] <dobey> this specific task uses pycurl, which handles ssl stuff
[20:16] <pfibiger> so, this is an another artifact of our somewhat janky ssl cert
[20:16] <pfibiger> that needs both of those CA files, one of which doesn't come w/ ubuntu
[20:16] <dobey> but i would expect this to fail for everyone if that was the case
[20:16] <pfibiger> dobey: looks like LP has the issue too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/311053
[20:17] <pfibiger> dobey: i dunno how pycurl handles exploring for CA certs
[20:18] <dobey> i think it uses the "don't ask, don't tell" method
[20:18] <pfibiger> could it be that he didn't get the certs installed, and for most people it discovers our certificates we install?
[20:18] <dobey> i doubt it
[20:18] <dobey> the client wouldn't get that far if storageprotocol was missing
[20:18] <pfibiger> ok
[20:18] <dobey> would get an ImportError instead
[20:18] <philsf> do you guys want me to post these informations I gave here to a bug (new or otherwise)?
[20:19] <dobey> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/376087
[20:19] <dobey> is the most relevant bug for us
[20:19] <philsf> ok
[20:20]  * dobey changes the summary to make more sense
[20:20] <pfibiger> dobey: we can feed pycurl our CA files, but like you said, it makes no sense that he'd see this problem and everyone wouldn't.
[20:21] <dobey> pfibiger: can we do the same with urllib2?
[20:22] <dobey> pfibiger: i have a feeling some of these occurances might be due to proxy requirements, or people hitting the server at odd times and got HTTP 500 back or something
[20:22] <pfibiger> to move to, or because use that someplace else?
[20:22] <statik> hey urbanape, how did my branch for building the XPI look? anything I should change?
[20:23] <urbanape> There were a few things that needed tweaking. That build script JARs up everything, which I gather from the moz dev crowd is fine and dandy.
[20:23] <dobey> pfibiger: i don't think it makes sense for us to use pycurl for only this one piece of code when python comes with urllib2 (which we are using elsewhere as well), and we also use twisted
[20:23] <dobey> pfibiger: how many HTTP libs do we need? :)
[20:23] <pfibiger> hah
[20:23] <pfibiger> fair enough
[20:23] <dobey> i think aq used it because it was simple and it worked
[20:23] <statik> urbanape, are you merging that branch into your own and making the changes there, or should I change things in my branch and get it landed?
[20:24] <dobey> at least, in his testing of that piece of code
[20:24] <urbanape> The dbus.sh script isn't technically chrome, so shouldn't live in the chrome dir, but should be peer with, say, install.rdf. Beyond that, I'm trying to figure out why the couch queries, while providing most of their information, don't actually seem to be providing the URIs to query locally.
[20:24] <pfibiger> philsf: just out of curiosity, in /etc/ssl/certs
[20:24] <urbanape> statik: yeah, I'm working locally on a branch pulled from yours
[20:24] <pfibiger> do you have any files like UbuntuOne-*.pem
[20:24] <urbanape> I've merged everything up to your branch back to trunk
[20:24] <philsf> pfibiger, UbuntuOne-Go_Daddy_CA.pem and UbuntUbuntuOne-Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pemuOne-Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pem
[20:24] <philsf> regular files, not links
[20:25] <pfibiger> yes ok.
[20:25] <philsf> sorry ]UbuntuOne-Go_Daddy_Class_2_CA.pem
[20:25] <statik> hey chad, can you review rickspencers couch widget branch? I just did one review on it, and i'd like to get it landed today if possible
[20:25] <pfibiger> philsf: thanks. dobey was right, that's not the issue.
[20:25] <statik> urbanape: ok. the only reason i'm asking is because i'd like to make the debian package, and i want to base it on something stable
[20:26] <philsf> so, what should I post to that report, if anything?
[20:26] <urbanape> gotcha. lemme check in what I've got (just added some more debugging stuff and the aforementioned organization.
[20:26] <dobey> philsf: the one line with the SSL verification error from the log is sufficient
[20:26] <philsf> the log excerpt? I think the applet error is the same
[20:26] <philsf> ok
[20:27] <statik> CardinalFang: sorry, i asked you about a review above ^ but forgot to use your nick
[20:28] <CardinalFang> Rgr.
[20:29] <urbanape> statik: lp:~urbanape/bindwood/xpi-refinement
[20:30] <statik> urbanape, thanks!
[20:30] <urbanape> I'll propose it for merge, and if you'd like, you can ditch yours (mine includes your changes)
[20:33] <dobey> pyflakes is pretty nutty too
[20:33]  * dobey hangs pyflakes and pylint and lowers them very slowly into a pool of sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads
[20:34] <dobey> why isn't there a SANE lint checker for python code? eh?
[20:34] <CardinalFang> statik: Of review, also,   [""] * 20
[20:34] <statik> mm, cool
[20:34] <urbanape> @reviewlist
[20:35] <statik> urbanape, yeah i'll drop mine now
[20:46] <verterok> urbanape: hal isn't here :)
[20:47] <urbanape> silly bot. Can't count on him for anything. Prolly off killing the rest of the crew in hibernation.
[20:49] <urbanape> oh, duh. Also, welcome to freenode, Mr. Bir.
[20:51] <jblount> urbanape: hilarious. +12
[20:54] <CardinalFang> urbanape: We decided your name is pronounced ur-ba-nah'-pay.  KTHX.
[20:56] <urbanape> my license plate is URBNAPE. Some lady once stopped me and tried to decipher it as an acronym. "yoU aRe BeiN' A Perfect Example?"
[20:56] <urbanape> "Yup, that's right."
[20:57] <pfibiger> hah
[20:57] <statik> for the second time in my life i just wrote the test before the bugfix
[20:58] <statik> i didn't hate it
[20:58] <rmcbride> statik: now you're cooking with gas, sir
[20:59] <dobey> heh
[20:59] <dobey> tests are hard
[21:01] <statik> and now i finally hit the postgres-8.4 problems rodrigo was talking about this morning
[21:06] <solexious|netbk> I have folders marked .conflict , how should I resolve it?
[21:07] <solexious|netbk> They should be removed....
[21:07] <jblount> Chipaca: ^^ Can't solexious|netbk just removes these?
[21:08] <verterok> solexious|netbk: folders/files with .conflict are the local versions, depends on what you want to do :)
[21:08] <Chipaca> well...
[21:08] <Chipaca> right
[21:08] <Chipaca> solexious|netbk: usually, the .conflict file is the one you actually *don't* want to lose
[21:08] <Chipaca> solexious|netbk: (yes, there is a bug in the client right now that has it create more than necessary of those) (working on it atm)
[21:09] <Chipaca> solexious|netbk: but in any case, I say again: the .conflcit file is almost certainly the version you want to *keep*
[21:09] <solexious|netbk> I moved folders around on my main box, now this one has the new folder locations, and the old locations are maked with the .conflict
[21:11] <Chipaca> solexious|netbk: the client seems to think you modified the folders in some way, and it wasn't able to 'push' the changes to the server before the server told it there were newer versions available
[21:14] <solexious|netbk> Chipaca, Ok, well will make a backup and remove them, and see what happens
[23:14] <solexious|netbk> How often is the main mapnik rendered now?
[23:14] <solexious|netbk> oops, wrong channel
[23:15] <BUGabundo> heh


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[00:07] <duanedesign> hello askhawk_
[00:07] <askhawk> hi
[00:07] <duanedesign> askhawk: have some issue with ubuntu one?
[00:07] <askhawk> I can not find the button to add my computer to the account
[00:08] <askhawk> can you please help
[00:08] <duanedesign> askhawk: aha, yes i can help with that
[00:09] <duanedesign> askhawk: close ubuntu one preferences if it is open
[00:09] <duanedesign> askhawk: open a Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal)
[00:10] <duanedesign> and run the commmand:  killall ubuntuone; u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c
[00:10] <duanedesign> oops sorrry
[00:10] <duanedesign> the right command is
[00:11] <duanedesign> killall ubuntuone-login; u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c
[00:24] <rotten777> i guess it worked
[00:24] <rotten777> hi duanedesign,
[00:25] <rotten777> any updates on being able to delete folders from u1?
[00:25] <rotten777> i still have yet to finish sync'ing nearly a month later :P
[00:26] <duanedesign> rotten777: looks like mine finished that i started last night
[00:26] <rotten777> yeah mine has never finished.. i've done the quit and reconnect
[00:26] <rotten777> i can't delete folders from the syncdaemon
[00:29] <duanedesign> rotten777: what do you get from running the command: u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[00:30] <duanedesign> and also u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[00:33] <duanedesign> since 18:30 my --waiting meta-data has gone from 39 to 37
[01:25] <rotten777> matthew@bits:~/.cache/ubuntuone/log$ u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[01:25] <rotten777> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:25] <rotten777> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.UnicodeEncodeError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:25] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb
[01:25] <rotten777>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[01:25] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 204, in waiting_metadata
[01:25] <rotten777>     waiting_metadata.append(str(cmd))
[01:25] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py", line 1442, in __str__
[01:25] <rotten777>     for attr in str_attrs]
[01:25] <rotten777> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 6: ordinal not in range(128)
[01:25] <rotten777> 2
[01:27] <duanedesign> rotten777: hmm. I have seen this bug. one sec...
[01:30] <mkarnicki> I think aquarius explained someone, that had a funky non acsii sign in the track name, that they have implemented the fix, but it will be published in some time (I understood that, no sooner than few days)
[01:30] <mkarnicki> Maybe this info helps, I didn't follow your talk.
[01:34] <duanedesign> bug 578022
[01:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 578022 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "UnicodeEncodeError when u1sdtool --waiting-metadata (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578022
[01:34] <duanedesign> +
[01:34] <duanedesign> ++
[02:19] <allquixotic> So is it just me or are there known issues with syncing down music from Ubuntu One? I bought an album today on a vanilla install of 10.04 + all updates; I enabled my Ubuntu One account (so the Ubuntu One applet shows me logged in); and I can download my music from one.ubuntu.com/files just fine. But after several reboots, Rhythmbox's Ubuntu One page under My Downloads just says "Transferring to your Ubuntu One
[02:19] <allquixotic>  storage".
[02:19] <allquixotic> I'm actually listening to the music right now because I grabbed all the files manually, so I'm not in "irate customer" mode; just wondering if reporting a bug is redundant or whether it'd actually help.
[02:21] <allquixotic> the Ubuntu One Preferences app says "Synchronization in progress..." but it's been like that for a very long time. No indication of any network I/O in system monitor.
[02:31] <mkarnicki> goodnite duanedesign
[02:33] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  Could someone tell me if I'm losing my mind or not? I seem to remember in beta, being able to pay for music purchases via paypal. Does anyone else recall that?
[02:52] <duanedesign> allquixotic: hello
[02:53] <duanedesign> allquixotic: do the songs appear at http://one.ubuntu.com/files  'purchased Music'
[03:19] <slashiiboy> i need help
[04:29] <allquixotic> duanedesign: as I said in my message, yes they do, and I can download them from there.
[04:30] <allquixotic> duanedesign: I read your forum post about how it is either the cloud side at fault, or the synchronization side. and in my case I can verify that it's the sync side, since the files exist in the cloud, and I can grab them manually.
[04:33] <duanedesign> allquixotic: what do you get from the command :  u1sdtool -s
[04:36] <duanedesign> also i wonder what you get from the commands: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[04:36] <duanedesign> and : u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[05:17] <allquixotic> duanedesign: looks like it downloaded a song, but the rest are still hung up. u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l returns 13.
[05:18] <allquixotic> http://fpaste.org/zemJ/
[06:54] <duanedesign> allquixotic: check this command again and see if the number is getting smaller:  u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[06:55] <allquixotic> duanedesign: same size.
[06:59] <duanedesign> what about   u1sdtool --waiting-metadata    ?
[06:59] <duanedesign> what about   u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[10:30] <bux> Hello =)
[11:50] <zybex> hi
[11:51] <zybex> need help to sinchronize ubuntu one with my pc
[11:53] <rye> zybex, currently the service is extremely slow, is that what you experience?
[11:55] <zybex> in the manual shown that i need add pc to ubuntu one but i cant find how to do it
[11:56] <rye> zybex, so you opened ubuntuone-preferences and no browser window/tab was opened to add your computer - right?
[11:56] <zybex> no, browser is open
[11:57] <rye> zybex, what page you are on now?
[11:57] <zybex> https://one.ubuntu.com/dashboard/
[11:57] <rye> zybex, could you please go to https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/ and see whether you have any computers registered?
[11:58] <zybex> You haven't added any computers or devices to your Ubuntu One account. To get started please visit the installation details.
[11:58] <zybex> how to add the machine?
[11:59] <zybex> i cant find add button nowhere
[12:16] <Munge> Hey guys, I thought I would try out ubuntu one, but my files takes forever to sync, and then when I get the green tick they still don't show up in the web interface...(I can upload files directly) Is there a general problem right now?
[12:18] <Peter222> Hello, I found today that many subfolders and files in subfolders are not synchronized in my Ubuntu One
[12:21] <Peter222> in my local folders I see red X on that folders
[12:23] <Peter222> when go to system/preferences/ubuntu one and select CONNECT in devices, it start "synchronizing" but freeze on 0.0%
[12:23] <Peter222>
[12:25] <rye> Yes, there is an ongoing issue that causes file sync to be extremely slow
[12:26] <Peter222> will be it fixed? I don;t know if my data is safe
[12:27] <Peter222> I was sure data is backed up in real time
[12:27] <Peter222> when I tested it some days agi it was OK so I was sure I'm protected :(
[12:27] <Peter222> ago*
[12:31] <rye> Peter222, yes, this is going to be fixed as the server team is working now to improve the speed of the service. There were several bits of improvement over the last month but there are some other items to implement
[12:31] <Peter222> I see
[12:32] <Peter222> thanks for info
[13:16] <larsemil> any news on the evolution -> contacts sync?
[13:29] <beuno> larsemil, everything is in place to re-enable it
[13:29] <beuno> we need a final user migration and we're set
[13:29] <beuno> I think it'll be re-enabled Mon/Tue next week
[15:59] <joj> hi
[15:59] <joj> just to check if there is a problem with files sync too
[16:09] <joj> ?
[16:50] <sticks> quick question: are updates that improve the performance of U1 file syncing going to be available for lucid?
[16:52] <rye> joshuahoover, ^ I know we agreed to do that, but is it formalized anywhere?
[16:53] <joshuahoover> rye, sticks: that is the plan...how we do that has not been decided yet but that is the goal
[17:38] <dobey> rye, joshuahoover: also, note that there is a significant difference between "for" and "in" :)
[17:38] <joshuahoover> dobey: yes, definitely :)
[17:48] <josephnexus> hi all
[17:49] <josephnexus> is there a place to suggest features for ubuntuone?
[17:55] <dobey> josephnexus: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone
[17:55] <dobey> josephnexus: you'll have to pick the appropriate sub-project for your request though :)
[17:56] <josephnexus> wow
[17:56] <josephnexus> lots of business there
[17:56] <josephnexus> perhaps I should wait since my idea is a feature suggestion
[18:04] <Panda_Oli> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'makefile'
[18:04] <Panda_Oli> Anyone know this?
[18:08] <dobey> Panda_Oli: from desktopcouch?
[18:09] <Panda_Oli> dobey: Yeah, exacly
[18:09] <Panda_Oli> dobey: from ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/desktop-couch-replication.log
[18:10] <dobey> Panda_Oli: ah, it's a bug in httplib i think, where the underlying socket connection disappears and it doesn't reset itself properly, but it's an indirect thing for desktopcouch coming up through python-couchdb iirc
[18:11] <Panda_Oli> dobey : Thanks for the info, any suggestions to try to fix this?
[18:11] <dobey> Panda_Oli: workaround is to restart desktopcouch, by running /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-stop, and then running evolution or something will cause it to just start up again
[18:11] <Panda_Oli> ok
[18:11] <Panda_Oli> i will try that
[18:13] <Panda_Oli> ok i killed & restarted it, i will check whats up
[18:19] <Panda_Oli> i'll reboot just to check things out
[18:20] <dobey> ok
[19:48] <otto_> Hello! Is here anybody who could help me debug why my desktop client does not sync files to the cloud?
[20:40] <rye> otto_, unfortunately currently file sync is extremely slow
[20:42] <kklimonda> again? ;)
[20:43] <autarch> so I think my u1 syncing is basically stuck
[20:43] <autarch> is there anything I can do to diagnose or speed it up?
[20:43] <autarch> honk
[20:44] <otto_> rye: u1sdtool -s says State: QUEUE_MANAGER all the time an nothing happends. Not even slowly..
[20:44] <duanedesign> hello autarch
[20:45] <autarch> duanedesign: hi
[20:45] <autarch> I kind of wonder if there's any way to wipe my account and start all over
[20:45] <autarch> it's stuck syncing things I later changed my mind on syncing
[20:47] <duanedesign> autarch: how many items do you have waiting .  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l;  u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[20:48] <rye> autarch, duanedesign, currently this is completely server-side issue
[20:49] <rye> official status is "performance is degraded, we're working hard on a solution."
[20:49] <autarch> ok
[21:27] <rotten777> duanedesign: any updates on the bug I am having?
[21:40] <duanedesign> hello rotten777
[21:40] <rotten777> duanedesign, hey there
[21:40] <duanedesign> rotten777: do you have the bug number? I lost my scrollback?
[21:40] <rotten777> matthew@bits:~/.cache/ubuntuone/log$ u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[21:40] <rotten777> Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:40] <rotten777> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.UnicodeEncodeError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:40] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/dbus/service.py", line 702, in _message_cb
[21:40] <rotten777>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[21:40] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 204, in waiting_metadata
[21:40] <rotten777>     waiting_metadata.append(str(cmd))
[21:40] <rotten777>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/action_queue.py", line 1442, in __str__
[21:40] <rotten777>     for attr in str_attrs]
[21:40] <rotten777> UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 6: ordinal not in range(128)
[21:40] <rotten777> I don't have the number but that's the issue
[21:41] <duanedesign> bug 578022
[21:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 578022 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "UnicodeEncodeError when u1sdtool --waiting-metadata (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578022
[21:43] <duanedesign> rye: do you know much about this bug ^^? Is this something that is only affecting --waiting-metadata?
[21:46] <duanedesign> rotten777: right now "performance is degraded, we're working hard on a solution."
[21:46] <rotten777> i haven't synchronized anything in weeks :\
[21:47] <rye> duanedesign, yes, searching for bug report
[21:47] <duanedesign> rotten777: I dont know much about that bug, but I do not think it should cause issues  outside of the u1sdtool.
[21:48] <rotten777> any eta on the client update?
[21:49] <rotten777> so far I haven't been able to use my account and now the thing i use to troubleshoot issues doesn't even work lol
[21:50] <duanedesign> :(
[21:50] <rye> bug #561638
[21:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 561638 in ubuntuone-client "u1sdtool does not support utf-8 symbols in --waiting-meta (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/561638
[21:51] <duanedesign> rye: aha. Thank you sir
[21:52] <rye> duanedesign, switched existing bugs to be a duplicate of this one
[21:52]  * duanedesign nods
[22:41] <flexo_> hey. quick question... settings up my address book, and i'm considering ubuntu one.. now.. one thing that puzzles me...
[22:43] <flexo_> why is there no FAQ like "omg omg! you are one giant privacy-hungry spider, using this will expose my businness contacts to the world, spammers will obtain my whole address book for their purposes and my sick sexual preferences will come out!111"
[22:43] <flexo_> (seriously though: tell me something to calm me down and i'll use it)
[22:44] <beuno> flexo_, I don't follow
[22:44] <beuno> we don't share any private information at all
[22:44] <flexo_> well who knows?
[22:44] <facundobatista> flexo_, nobody (not us, not the rest) will look into your contacts or files, they are private to you
[22:45] <beuno> flexo_, https://one.ubuntu.com/privacy/
[22:45] <flexo_> is there someone to sue if you do? :)
[22:45] <flexo_> yea, i've read it
[22:45] <beuno> flexo_, yes, Canonical
[22:45] <flexo_> okay. i suppose that's fine then
[22:46] <flexo_> it's just that i just spent two hours flagging thousands of email as spam
[22:46] <facundobatista> flexo_, having something to sue makes your privacy concerns go away?
[22:46] <flexo_> facundobatista: no, but not existing someone to sue makes them worse
[22:46] <flexo_> obviously i would never sue anyone over it
[22:47] <flexo_> i mean
[22:47] <flexo_> i'm just asking if this is a "hey, let#
[22:47] <beuno> flexo_, we're not in the business of fooling around with people's information
[22:47] <flexo_> i'm just asking if this is a "hey, let's make up a central mgmt thingie for contacts and stuff" project by some kid in his basement
[22:48] <beuno> Canonical has a pretty good track record at that  :)
[22:48] <beuno> no, it's a multi-million dollar/year project
[22:48] <beuno> so, a pretty big basement  ;)
[22:48] <flexo_> based in the US i suppose?
[22:48] <beuno> UK
[22:48] <flexo_> oh. really?
[22:49] <beuno> yes
[22:49] <flexo_> (we have some policies in my company about avoid to use us-based services due to industrial espionage things)
[22:49] <flexo_> (sorry for my english. it's late and i've taken a rather large amount of benzodiazepines)
[22:49] <flexo_> well
[22:49] <flexo_> this is great
[22:49] <mkarnicki> flexo_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd. (good reading material :) )
[22:50] <flexo_> hm.. ltd.. right
[22:50] <flexo_> should've thought of that :)
[22:50] <mkarnicki> ok, I pasted that so you could read where they are located and registered..
[22:50] <flexo_> it's a ltd, so it must be registered in uk
[22:50] <flexo_> no?
[22:51] <mkarnicki> Isle of Man it is.
[22:51] <flexo_> yea well. that's uk.
[22:51] <mkarnicki> anyway, gotta go. I have a test tomorrow. and my laptop awaits some reparing. l8r guys
[22:51] <flexo_> ciao
[22:51] <flexo_> and thanks
[22:51] <mkarnicki> flexo_: yes it is
[22:51] <mkarnicki> np, bye
[23:06] <abjohnson1> hello! my first time with ubuntu and IRC chat and got it to work!
[23:17] <duanedesign> :)
[23:45] <marcosroriz> hello guys
[23:45] <marcosroriz> are the server overflowed again? :3
[23:49] <mkarnicki> marcosroriz: yes, I saw a msg here in the channel, that they had server issues (and working on it). perhaps it's even posted somehere, like the dashboard or the wiki
[23:49] <marcosroriz> ok :)
[23:50] <marcosroriz> btw I'm loving every time more UNE and one
[23:50] <marcosroriz> it's like a perfent sync between them
[23:50] <marcosroriz> netbook never been so fun!
[23:50] <mkarnicki> marcosroriz: you mean UNR ?
[23:50] <mkarnicki> this is the same, right?
[23:50] <marcosroriz> netbook edition
[23:51] <mkarnicki> UNR = ubuntu netbook remix :D
[23:51] <mkarnicki> so yes, I think so
[23:51] <mkarnicki> yea, I've seen it, it's cool :D
[23:51] <mkarnicki> gotta go :_: take care marcosroriz
[23:51] <marcosroriz> ahh
[23:51] <marcosroriz> sorry :3
[23:51] <marcosroriz> mkarnicki, ^_^ bye
[23:52] <mkarnicki> ^ ^


[10:06] <rmg51> Morning
[10:07] <rmg51> jedijf: JonathanD, what time do you plan on getting to FOSSCON?
[10:13] <JonathanD> rmg51: 8am
[10:13] <JonathanD> rmg51: we can't get in before that.
[10:13] <rmg51> that's what I thought
[10:14] <rmg51> where can I meet you?
[10:23] <JonathanD> rmg51: main lobby of FI
[10:23] <JonathanD> FI staff will be directing traffic.
[10:23] <rmg51> k
[11:25] <rmg51> off to FOSSCON
[11:26] <rmg51> talk to the bear :-D
[12:11] <calvin> the turkey has not been awake this early in 5 months
[13:19] <teddy-dbear> Greeting from FOSSCOM peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[23:45] <waltman> MutantTurkey: if you'd stuck around you would've won a door prize!


[10:42] <sagaci> jaddi27: you're around for the membership meeting, yeah?
[10:42] <jaddi27> sagaci, that is tomorrow, isn't it?
[10:42] <sagaci> ah, confusing you with an ebay item ending soon
[10:43] <sagaci> yeah, tomorrow night
[10:43] <jaddi27> ok. you had me worried for a minute
[10:43] <jaddi27> I should go and work on the last few precise translations
[10:43] <jaddi27> I finally have time to do it now that Uni is finished
[10:54] <sagaci> two weeks off?
[10:57] <jaddi27> a bit more - 3 + 1 for orientation
[11:41] <head_victim> sagaci & jaddi27 it's tonight
[11:41] <jaddi27> head_victim, really?
[11:42] <jaddi27> I must have got my days mixed up
[11:42] <head_victim> Yeah, we're the 1200 UTC baord
[11:42] <head_victim> Despite it being at 2200 our time
[11:42] <head_victim> That might have been the confusion
[11:42] <jaddi27> Is the 2200 one on Thursdays?
[11:44] <jaddi27> Yep, that is what it must have been
[11:44] <jaddi27> head_victim, is there anything I need to get ready?
[11:45] <head_victim> As long as your wiki is up to date I don't think so
[11:45] <head_victim> Bonus points if you can get evolution to talk exchange to my uni email :D
[11:45] <jaddi27> Ha, that could be fun
[11:45] <head_victim> Nah, I can't figure out what the domain should be
[11:46] <head_victim> Evolution needs a server, username and domain for exchange mapi to work :/
[11:46] <jaddi27> Are you using MS hosted email, or an exchange server?
[11:46] <head_victim> qut student email is all hosted on outlook.com
[11:46] <head_victim> I got android to talk to it, just can't get evo to do it.
[11:46] <jaddi27> ok. try pod51000.outlook.com
[11:46] <jaddi27> I use that for imap
[11:47] <head_victim> Yeah, I wanted to calendaring :/ Hence the hope for exchange.
[11:48] <jaddi27> Right. If you log in to outlook.com, and then go to the '?' image on the right side, and select about
[11:48] <jaddi27> it has some details of servers
[11:48] <head_victim> Yep
[11:49] <head_victim> Android worked straight up with the right settings, server was pod51000.outlook.com and user was<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:49] <head_victim> It didn't ask for a domain but for some reason evolution needs one for it to work?
[11:50] <jaddi27> I would think you could leave the domain blank - i always have done
[11:50] <head_victim> Error box - Server, username and domain name cannot be empty. Please fill them with correct values.
[11:50] <jaddi27> damn, my translation graph has stopped working after a module update
[11:53] <jaddi27> I am not sure why it would need all of that. I just use thunderbird for the email - haven't tried calendar sync
[11:53] <head_victim> Yeah, I'm just being a bit special I think.
[12:06] <jaddi27> head_victim, good sign - enough members
[12:07] <head_victim> jaddi27: HEAPS :)
[12:07] <sagaci> enough to not postpone
[12:07] <sagaci> felt like we had one a/o membership meeting last cylce
[12:08] <sagaci> cycle*****
[12:11] <sagaci> looks professional
[12:20] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah, fingers crossed it's improved this cycle
[12:24] <head_victim> Well done jaddi27 :)
[12:24] <head_victim> Our newest Ubuntu Member
[12:25] <jaddi27> head_victim, I hope you will guide me through anything I need to do now
[12:25] <jaddi27> Thanks very much for supporting me with it
[12:25] <head_victim> jaddi27: it's all explained on the membership wiki page
[12:26] <head_victim> But after the meeting I'll run you through it
[12:26] <jaddi27> head_victim, ok. I will have a better read through it
[13:19] <head_victim> jaddi27: you'll have mail real soon :)
[13:20] <jaddi27> head_victim, just got it
[13:20] <head_victim> And https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership is the place for the benefits
[13:20] <jaddi27> I think they have added more information to that since I last looked
[13:20] <head_victim> you need to request most of it yourself but there are instructions
[13:21] <jaddi27> Who does the IRC cloaks?
[13:21] <head_victim> The generally just pop into -irc and ask who's about, it needs a freenode staffer to do it and an IRCCC member to approve it
[13:22] <jaddi27> ok. I will look at doing that sometime soon
[13:40] <jaddi27> head_victim, just got another email
[13:41] <head_victim> Yeah, slowly getting it all done :)
[13:41] <jaddi27> How much do you have to do?
[13:41] <jaddi27> Are you now the main person for the 1200 board?
[13:41] <head_victim> Not heaps, just it's late and my hands aren't working :)
[13:41] <head_victim> There is no official "main person", it just comes down to who has the time at any given point in time.
[13:41] <jaddi27> My hands were not working well during the meeting
[13:41] <head_victim> Tonight, that's me :)
[13:42] <jaddi27> ok. As usual, you did an excellent job
[13:42] <head_victim> Thanks, we do have a hideout where we coordinate so everyone did have a say :)
[13:43] <head_victim> Feel free to ping me with any questions but for now, I think I need sleep.
[13:43] <jaddi27> Ok. I think I should sleep too. Goodnight
[13:43] <head_victim> Cheerio and well done
[13:44] <jaddi27> Thanks again for your help


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