[09:43] <erUSUL> kevin: it depends on your workload
[09:43] <gyaresu> joey237: Common problem at the moment try hitting ESC at the first menu and adding  acpi=off or pci=noacpi to the end of the 'linux' line.
[09:43] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:43] <kevin> just have a simple emachines desktop
[09:43] <abelstr> Thibaut__: use ifconfig (man ifconfig)
[09:43] <Kronuz> hey, what's the directory hierarchy in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <kevin> athlon 22oo+
[09:43] <Kronuz> where am I supposed to install stuff?
[09:43] <erUSUL> !install > Kronuz
[09:43] <joey237> gyaresu thanks i will try that
[09:43] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:43] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: you need to unmount the drive and you only partition devices not folders ;)
[09:43] <abelstr> Kronuz: binaries in /usr/bin, all peristent files in /usr, actually.
[09:44] <LycanNyc-work> gyaresu, i dont know the device for it :0
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: /dev/sda or whatever (not /dev/sda1 )
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: dmesg
[09:44] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[09:44] <Kronuz> abelstr, so there's no /usr/local ?
[09:44] <abelstr> Kronuz: yes, preferably /usr/local for manually installed stuff
[09:44] <Kronuz> abelstr, (or it is not used)
[09:44] <Thibaut__> ive got troubles with my ehternet card , how to reduce link speed of my gigabit's card to 100mb on ubuntu please ?
[09:44] <Kronuz> oh, I see
[09:45] <Defro_G> gyaresu: nothing on dmesg
[09:45] <gyaresu> LycanNyc-work: Defro_G Sorry dudes. Gotta go rock climbing.
[09:45] <abelstr> Kronuz: if it's not there, create it. Linux is linux, after all.
[09:45] <Thibaut__> abelstr what i have to do with ifconfig i dont understand ?!
[09:45] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[09:45] <Defro_G> gyaresu: ok thank a lot y search........
[09:45] <abelstr> Thibaut: it's a tool for configuring ethernet hardware, and there's an option for speed somewhere
[09:45] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu
[09:45] <Thibaut__> ok thanks
[09:46] <LycanNyc-work> ty gyaresu
[09:46] <Slim> touchscreen for ubuntu?
[09:46] <gyaresu> Defro_G: 'ifconfig' ?
[09:47] <Dougie> abelstr: ok i set the horiz and vert refresh rates and even adjusted the default resolution and still not getting anything. I'm not sure thats the problem because i don't get past the Ubuntu Boot Splash thats where it goes hay wire....like there is an issue with the video drivers or something...
[09:47] <gyaresu> Defro_G: Once you've got a device listed then you need to assign and IP to it.. I hope this is worth it. You'd be better off with a couple of network cards... Anyway. Good lukc.
[09:47] <Juhaz> Slim, wacom screen in a tablet pc worked, perhaps the desktop ones do as well...
[09:47] <abelstr> Dougie: you get absolutely nothing? black screen?
[09:48] <Defro_G> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8981/
[09:48] <Dougie> abelstr: no the splash image gets stuck on the screen and then some funky color lines show up a blue one and a green one
[09:48] <Dougie> abelstr: you know with the Ubuntu logo and the loading bar
[09:48] <abelstr> Dougie: if you press Ctrl-Alt-F1 when the funky colors come in, does anything happen?
[09:49] <islan> sounds like an X / graphic card issue
[09:49] <Dougie> the green line shifts a little
[09:49] <xelados> Hah, the script to get rid of GNOME canned Xchat, too.
[09:49] <Dougie> abelstr: the green line just moves a little like something happend but other then that nothing
[09:49] <xelados> So I had to get it again >_>
[09:49] <abelstr> Dougie: are you sure about the VertRefresh value, that it's correct?
[09:49] <Dougie> abelstr: i just pressed it again and most of the green line went away
[09:50] <aixing> side note: for that of you with Laptops OMG the new Ubuntu owns all other distro. finally my laptop is happy :)
[09:50] <Enoch> how so, aixing?
[09:50] <Dougie> abelstr: it can support up to 60hz vert refresh and i didn't set it higher then that...should be just fine
[09:50] <abelstr> Dougie: are you able to login then, using the login prompt on the black screen?? Or is the screen too garbled?
[09:51] <matej> i have problems with my cedega 5.3.2. When i wanna run Steam with right click (open with cedega), it comes out with error "unable to change directory to /home/user/Trans..."what could be wrong?
[09:51] <Dougie> abelstr: i don't see the login prompt or command prompt or anything
[09:51] <aixing> Enoch: for one, my sony actually shutsdown when I select shutdown
[09:51] <Dougie> abelstr: just the messed up image and the 2 lines
[09:51] <aixing> I'm using a Sony VAIO VNG-S4XP
[09:52] <Dougie> aixing: my laptop doesn't seem to like it to much...lol
[09:52] <aixing> lol
[09:52] <aixing> not edgy
[09:52] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[09:52] <abelstr> Dougie: if you boot using the Live CD, then mount the Ubuntu partition and read the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and see what's there
[09:52] <aixing> I'm refering to the one after: due in April
[09:52] <Dougie> oh i think i'm useing edgy
[09:52] <xelados> gyaresu: About that dualboot idea, will I absolutely need to disconnect my Linux HD's SATA/power cable? If so I don't mind, but it'd be better if I didn't have to.
[09:52] <aixing> na.. not that one
[09:53] <Jowi> Dougie, try to disable the framebuffer in grub (press "e" in the grub boot menu and add vga=normal at the end of the kernel line, then "enter" and press "b" to boot). you will not get the bootsplash but hopefully it will get you to the login screen.
[09:53] <Dougie> abelstr: the live cd wont boot in graphical mode it gives an xserver error
[09:53] <aixing> the newer one is focussed on laptops
[09:53] <aixing> and they seem to be doing a good job so far
[09:53] <omegacenti_> Easy way to find out the exact name of my wireless adaptor in my laptop?
[09:53] <Dougie> Jowi: ok hold on
[09:53] <abelstr> omegacenti: lspci
[09:54] <omegacenti_> abelstr: Thankyou :)
[09:54] <omegacenti_> Ive been searching forever in forums and gateway site to find the name.
[09:54] <abelstr> omegacenti: no problem :)
[09:54] <chade1> Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who's helped me today
[09:55] <chade1> Still working on fixing the error but getting there now atleast
[09:55] <abelstr> great
[09:55] <chade1> Going to try and get my USB modem working first
[09:55] <Dougie> Jowi: when i press e it gives me and edit commands before booting and will only let me change the commands that are there not add a new one
[09:55] <chade1> Then see if I can update the linux boc
[09:55] <chade1> update ubuntu rather
[09:55] <Jowi> Dougie, yes, change the "kernel" line
[09:55] <DeLude> hi all
[09:56] <tinram> it
[09:56] <andre_> hello everyone
[09:56] <tinram> hi
[09:56] <Slim> does anyone know of a touchscreen solution for ubuntu?
[09:56] <Jowi> Dougie, add "vga=normal" without the quotes to the end of that line
[09:56] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?
[09:56] <Jowi> Dougie, the changes you make is only temporary
[09:57] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah i figured that...not sure it did anything lol
[09:57] <Dougie> nope still same lines
[09:57] <abelstr> Slim: what touchscreen? there are some drivers
[09:57] <Jowi> Dougie, you added vga=normal to the end of the line, enter, and pressed "b"  to boot the modified entry?
[09:58] <matej> i have problems with my cedega 5.3.2. When i wanna run Steam with right click (open with cedega), it comes out with error "unable to change directory to /home/user/Trans..."what could be wrong?
[09:58] <Dougie> Jowi: ok i highlight the kernel line and hit e to edit it
[09:58] <AlexC_> matej: #cedega maybe?
[09:58] <dsl1171> goodday all
[09:58] <matej> AlexC_, no answer :(
[09:58] <Jowi> matej, the directory does not exist probably.
[09:58] <abelstr> matej: /home/user propably doesn't exist, you'll need to change 'user' to the chosen username
[09:58] <matej> Jowi, it exist
[09:58] <Dougie> Jowi: but what it brings up is "< quiet splash" instead of that kernel line that was shown on the screen before
[09:59] <matej> abelstr, thats example
[09:59] <abelstr> matej: ok
[09:59] <owner__> what is the best guide to install lamp on ubuntu edgy eft
[09:59] <nipples> matej check your permissions
[09:59] <AlexC_> owner_hold on, getting a link
[09:59] <erUSUL> !lamp > owner__
[09:59] <matej> nipples, hm?
[09:59] <Jowi> Dougie, it's because the whole line won't fit into the window. it's normal. remove splash and add vga=normal in its place.
[09:59] <AlexC_> owner_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:59] <dsl1171> does anyone got time for me with some problem; been struggling for 6 hours with it
[10:00] <abelstr> dsl1171: yes, what is it?
[10:00] <AlexC_> dsl1171: we can't help if you ask no question now can we =)
[10:00] <Jowi> !ask | dsl1171
[10:00] <ubotu> dsl1171: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <dsl1171> =)
[10:00] <dsl1171> good
[10:00] <Dougie> Jowi: ok now it is booting in text mode i guess lol
[10:00] <dsl1171> here's the situation; i've got a mainHD with debian, WinVIsta and Xp on it
[10:00] <Jowi> Dougie, very good. at the minimum you should be able to see where/if it hangs.
[10:00] <dsl1171> i found two old HD's (4gig and 2gig) and i've put them in my pc
[10:00] <joshjosh> How do I uninstall a windows app I installed in wine?
[10:01] <K3nto> !search
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <dsl1171> installed ubuntu on the first one and the second one contains MS-dos
[10:01] <Jowi> joshjosh, "wine uninstaller"
[10:01] <AlexC_> dsl1171: it's far easier to keep everything to one line
[10:01] <dsl1171> np
[10:01] <PCgenieme> Hi there
[10:01] <AlexC_> hi, PCgenieme
[10:01] <dsl1171> ok, it's hard to explain since i don't get it
[10:01] <Dougie> Jowi: ok here we go "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[10:02] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?  This seems to be one of the major issues stopping a lot of people from switching to ubuntu
[10:02] <dsl1171> grub can't seem to list the XP and Vista partition
[10:02] <joshjosh> thanks
[10:02] <Jowi> Dougie, "yes" you do want to see it. have a look and see if you can spot an error somewhere
[10:03] <peter1984> ANyone who knows how to install beryl with a ati radeon 9600 card? I just cant seem to get it right
[10:03] <omegacenti_> Okay, I am having problems as I have no idea on how to install this file on my computer: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/df-support/11780/eng/ipw2200_linux_1_2_0.tgz&agr=&ProductID=1637&DwnldId=11780&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng
[10:03] <Dougie> Jowi: Fatal server error: no screens found                 f"
[10:03] <peter1984> Ive looked at all the info at beryl and nothing works
[10:03] <dsl1171> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
[10:03] <AlexC_> peter1984: #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <K3nto> how can i uninstall an app that i installed via deb
[10:04] <peter1984> AlexC_: okay:-)
[10:04] <abelstr> K3nto: 'sudo apt-get remove *appname*
[10:04] <xelados> Synaptic is displaying packages that are listed as "autoremovable", but I want to keep them. What do I need to do to make it so they can't be autoremoved?
[10:04] <K3nto> kk
[10:04] <Jowi> Dougie, ok. reboot the machine into single user / recovery mode. log in and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" chose VESA for your graphic card and the approximate size of your LCD screen.
[10:04] <Jowi> Dougie, in all other questions go with the defaults
[10:04] <dsl1171> soooo; the first question is; how can it be i can't mount my winxp (dev/hda1) == (hd0,0)?
[10:05] <dsl1171> partitionɎj
[10:05] <Dougie> Jowi: Ok just a min
[10:05] <Jowi> Dougie, VESA will work with any video card on the market
[10:05] <ekimus> a little off topic but does anyone know how to install FC6 thru a chroot, I need to create a domU with it (or how to install a domU without booting)
[10:05] <livingdaylight> are there any guis for converting .avi files to iso?
[10:05] <livingdaylight> dvdauthor keeps crashing
[10:05] <ekimus> err how to install FC6 without booting
[10:05] <andre_> !rules
[10:05] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:05] <omegacenti_> Need help with ipw2200 install
[10:05] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: first you're gonna have to download the file and then you'll have to either click on it and untar it with file roller or whatever you have or use tar -xvzf and the file name
[10:05] <livingdaylight> ekimus, how about checking in at #fedora
[10:05] <alleyoopster>  livingdaylight: devede and tovidgui
[10:06] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, thx, either?
[10:06] <ekimus> livingdaylight: no answers there :)
[10:06] <omegacenti_> its sa downloaded carlosqueso, now the only thing is doing what you said.
[10:06] <alleyoopster>  livingdaylight: yes either, both have worked for me
[10:06] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, cool, :D
[10:06] <K3nto> !find
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <omegacenti_> filer rolleR?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> ekimus, yea...ubuntu community support is unrivaled :D
[10:06] <AlexC_> ekimus: that's no excuse for asking in the Ubuntu support channel, now is it?
[10:07] <K3nto> you know the command "find"? how do i find a certain file?
[10:07] <omegacenti_> !file roller
[10:07] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[10:07] <Jowi> !info file-roller
[10:07] <ubotu> file-roller: an archive manager for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 680 kB, installed size 4952 kB
[10:07] <abelstr> dsl1171: what command did you use to mount? just 'mount /dev/hda1 *somelocation*'?
[10:07] <livingdaylight> ekimus, considered switching to #ubuntu?
[10:07] <K3nto> nvm i got it
[10:07] <dirken> have problems with dual monitoring, get my dual monitoring but all my programs opens up on my second monitor. How arrange this that it all opens on the first?
[10:07] <ekimus> livingdaylight: what do you mean?
[10:08] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: or just open a terminal, navigate to where you put it and type 'sudo tar -xvzf <name of file>'
[10:08] <AlexC_> ekimus: I think he meant use Ubuntu instead,
[10:08] <omegacenti_> How do you use file roler though?
[10:08] <omegacenti_> roller*
[10:08] <livingdaylight> ekimus, do you know the story of the guy who lost his wallet and was looking under the streetlamp; when asked where he had lost it he replied over there in the dark but there is no light there
[10:08] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, you shoudl be able to double-click on the downloaded file and it shoudl come up
[10:08] <omegacenti_> k one sec.
[10:08] <ekimus> livingdaylight: i am using ubuntu, as the question implies I need FC6 as domU inside xen which is running on ubuntu
[10:08] <abelstr> !ntfs > dsl1171
[10:08] <Jowi> omegacenti_, "file-roller nameofarchive.tar.gz"
[10:09] <carlosqueso> then just click extract (or something...I'm in front of a text only setup right now
[10:09] <dsl1171> jump
[10:09] <andre_> has anyone ever been able to get a Pocket PC like IPaq to SYNC with Evolution?  This seems to be one of the major issues stopping a lot of people from switching to ubuntu
[10:09] <omegacenti_> Okay its unzipped.
[10:09] <carlosqueso> cool...now there should be some sort of readme file with the instructions in there
[10:10] <omegacenti_> one sec checking.
[10:10] <ekimus> andre_: yes about 1.5 years ago (but that was gentoo) and it worked flawlessly :)
[10:10] <osotogari> hey all, im looking for some help with my samba server set up. I have two drive here that i want to share, an external usb hard drive and a partition called shares. I have installed samba server, added two smb users with passwords, associated these with the two users on my system. Now i want to connect via two xp machines. I can connect perfectly, however the other user can only access the shares partition and not the exter
[10:10] <osotogari> nal hard drive. Any ideas?
[10:10] <ekimus> osotogari: are the rights (unix rights) set correctly?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> alleyoopster, you sure its tovidgui? i don't see it in repos
[10:10] <andre_> ekimus:  1.5 yrs... would you happen to know where to look to get it working?
[10:11] <dirken> have problems with dual monitoring, get my dual monitoring but all my programs opens up on my second monitor. How arrange this that it all opens on the first?
[10:11] <osotogari> on the external hard drive?
[10:11] <K3nto> how can i search my HD for files?
[10:11] <AlexC_> locate, K3nto ?
[10:11] <K3nto> ok
[10:11] <abelstr> K3nto: use 'locate *somefilename*
[10:11] <K3nto> sudo locate
[10:11] <K3nto> or just locate
[10:11] <Flannel> K3nto: just locate
[10:11] <Dougie> Jowi: ok it doesnt say anything about the LCD size... what about kernel framebuffer device interface? enable or not?
[10:11] <K3nto> ok
[10:11] <abelstr> K3nto: depends, if the user has read access to the file you're looking for, just locate
[10:12] <AlexC_> actually, locate doesn't even work for me!
[10:12] <Jowi> Dougie, disable framebuffer for now
[10:12] <AlexC_> I just ran "locate class_module.php" and it returned nothing...yet I know it does exist :P
[10:12] <livingdaylight> ekimus, sorry, i just stepped into #ubuntu, just saw you asking how to install fc6
[10:12] <ekimus> andre_: i know that my main problems were that it would not sync on the first try from time to time but other than that it was just working with evolution :)
[10:12] <owner__> if i do apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[10:12] <owner__>  will everything be configured for me or do i need to configure some files for the programs to work together]
[10:12] <abelstr> AlexC: maybe the database wasn't updated yet. use 'updatedb' to do so
[10:12] <osotogari> drwx------ 33 patrick patrick 32768 2007-03-06 21:05 EXHD - this is the drive i want to share.
[10:12] <dyrne> K3nto: bear in mind if it is a new file youll have to update the locate db first like sudo locate -u
[10:12] <andre_> ekimus:  how complicated was it to get it working but everyone seems to be having one hell of a hard time.
[10:13] <dirken> need support for dual monitoring, anyone?
[10:13] <TheVault> I got a problem, I keep getting this error in wine----- wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\sol.exe": Module not found
[10:13] <AlexC_> abelstr: ahhh I see,
[10:13] <TheVault> How do I fix that?
[10:13] <abelstr> TheVault: it usually means you didn't specify the correct path: if the specified file does not exist, it will look in the system32 folder
[10:14] <osotogari> from what i understand i am the only one who can access that hard drive, with those permissions.
[10:14] <ekimus> andre_: at that time is was pretty fluent in compiling kernels, I just set it up to support some usb options i missed in the first place udev then created the device for me. evolution knew how to talk to that. that's about it afair
[10:14] <AlexC_> abelstr: nah that didn't work. No worries anyway, I never use it
[10:14] <TheVault> abelstr: But I copy and paste the address to my exe I am looking for
[10:14] <dsl1171> abelstr, i cant seem to explain it properly; it seems like the first partition of my mainHD crashed, is that possible? other OS like debian and Vista seem to be fine
[10:14] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Didn't quite understand what it was saying
[10:14] <K3nto> !delete
[10:14] <allie> hi folks. i have a problem starting software when ubuntu boots.
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about delete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <K3nto> whats the delete command?
[10:15] <TheVault> sudo rm filename
[10:15] <AlexC_> rm, K3nto
[10:15] <K3nto> rm
[10:15] <K3nto> i have to write this stuff down
[10:15] <carlosqueso> omegacenti_ what didn't you understand?
[10:15] <AlexC_> K3nto: you get use to it,
[10:15] <osotogari> it gets easier K3nto
[10:15] <TheVault> K3nto: yuppers
[10:15] <Kronuz> hey, trying to umount, I'm getting a device is busy, how can I know why it is busy?
[10:15] <abelstr> dsl1171: theoretically, yes, your filesystem could be just really er, messed up.
[10:15] <Kronuz> (or who's using it)
[10:15] <ekimus> andre_: but it may well be possible that things changed and newer handhelds (don't use them any more) use different means of synchronisation which aren't open or reverse engineered yet
[10:15] <allie> when i go to system > prefs > sessions and add a program under startup it doesnt seem to get saved. when i close and go back it isnt there and doesnt start when i reboot. any ideas?
[10:15] <abelstr> Kronuz: install 'lsof' and use it on the device to see what programs are accessing it
[10:16] <dyrne> Kronuz: usually your still in the /directory  at least thats what i usually do :)
[10:16] <hack_> hej
[10:16] <TheVault> so how do I fix my sol.exe problem in wine then abelstrl
[10:16] <Kronuz> dyrne, hehe, I know... but not this time ;)
[10:16] <andre_> ekimus:  yeah,  my handheld is  a few years old, I synce and multisync recognises it... I just can't get evolution to sync up
[10:16] <abelstr> TheVault: use the complete path to the exe, noting case sensitivity. If you already did, I can't help you i'm afraid.
[10:16] <TheVault> All exe programs should run in wine right?
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: note the first shouldn't be necessary
[10:17] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Wow, too much information in such amount of time. The INSTALL file has so much information that I do not know where to start.
[10:17] <I-kido> TheVault:  go check /home/YourName/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32, if sol.exe is there double click it
[10:17] <AlexC_> TheVault: nope,
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: mind you, the .exe needs to be executable
[10:17] <andre_> ekimus: thanks for the help... if it's ok I'll keep posting my question everyonce in a while in hopes people respond.
[10:17] <TheVault> what is the sol.exe is not in there?
[10:17] <abelstr> TheVault: chmod u+x sol.exe
[10:17] <TheVault> what if the sol.exe is missing, where can I retrieve it?
[10:17] <carlosqueso> omegacenti_, it's probably something you have to compile in  what kind of card is it?
[10:18] <ericz> i'm using dapper drake, pretend i wanted to upgrade to edgy, i remember update-manager used to have a button to upgrade for me.. but i told it to stop bugging me i guess, how do i get that back so i can upgrade to edgy?
[10:18] <omegacenti_> Intel/Pro internal 2200BG wireless
[10:18] <Dougie> Jowi: ok i have the login splash now lol
[10:18] <omegacenti_> ibe sec,
[10:18] <AlexC_> !update | ericz
[10:18] <ubotu> ericz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:18] <Dougie> Jowi: resolution does not look like its right though
[10:18] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[10:18] <kevin> anyone know why i am getting a error after make menuconfig?
[10:18] <ericz> AlexC_, thanks
[10:18] <abelstr> kevin: what is the error?
[10:18] <tbodine> I've got an optical mouse. and recently it's been acting up. The cursor is really shaky when I move it.. Anyone know if I can fix this with software or cleaning or something?
[10:18] <kevin> [menuconfig]  Error 2
[10:19] <Kronuz> abelstr, oh, I think it's beagled :P
[10:19] <Jowi> Dougie, cool. at least your system is functional. the resolution is probably way off if you have a wide screen lcd and now you use the basic vesa drivers even.
[10:19] <abelstr> kevin: before that?
[10:19] <I-kido> erikz: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[10:19] <TheVault> abelstr: I don't see the sol.exe in there, what do I do now?
[10:19] <tj007s13> does anyone know a good command line text editor for the ubuntu server edition?
[10:19] <tbodine> tj007s13, Vim.
[10:19] <MKR> tj007s13, nano, vim
[10:19] <starly> vim or emacs
[10:19] <Jowi> Dougie, what kind of computer is this and what video card do you have and what is the expected resolution you want?
[10:19] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13576/ is a howto in english, i'd try there
[10:19] <abelstr> TheVault: try a 'locate sol.exe' incase you're quite sure it's on your system. If you didn't already, run 'updatedb' first.
[10:20] <abelstr> TheVault: the latter as root
[10:20] <AlexC_> abelstr: I did that before, but it did not update the db.... it still didn't find the files
[10:20] <omegacenti_> thanks carlosqueso
[10:20] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:20] <Dougie> Jowi: Its a gateway MX8523 notebook it has a 17" LCD and will do 1440x900 @60Hz the video card is an ATI Radeon X700 Mobility 64Mb PCIE
[10:21] <kevin> abelstr here is the first error i see, there are alot of errors all beginning with scripts/Kconfig
[10:21] <abelstr> AlexC: it does update the database, about your problem I don't know, frankly
[10:21] <omegacenti_> Okay now my firefox wont even load properly
[10:21] <omegacenti_> what the heck is going on.
[10:21] <MKR> osotogari, you need to speficy a user name
[10:21] <abelstr> kevin: something about permission denied?
[10:21] <tj007s13> so a command for vim would be "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:21] <MKR> wait
[10:21] <tj007s13> ?
[10:21] <omegacenti_> nm fixed.
[10:21] <MKR> misread
[10:21] <dsl1171> abelstr, can grub or wrong mbr settings corrupt one partition on a HD?
[10:21] <kevin> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:97: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before chtype
[10:21] <abelstr> kevin: always possible... because you'll need to be root for write access in /usr/src, I tend to forget that.
[10:21] <dyrne> tj007s13: looks good
[10:21] <osotogari> ahhh, i see. Where will i specify the username  in the syntax?
[10:22] <kevin> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:187: error: expected ) before * token
[10:22] <abelstr> kevin: argh. That looks bad. I have, frankly, no idea.
[10:22] <n-iCe> Hi how can i put the gaim in the tray icon? when i close it ?
[10:22] <kevin> ok
[10:22] <tj007s13> thx im noob :D
[10:22] <Jowi> Dougie, ok. you need to do some reading. first make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf then read about !ati and !resolution. I have no experience with ati cards though so I might not be able to help much there.
[10:22] <kevin> thanks anyway
[10:22] <abelstr> dsl1171: the latter can, GRUB shouldn't
[10:22] <TheVault> abelstr: Alright I did that, heres what I got
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$ sudo locate sol.exe
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$ locate sol.exe
[10:22] <TheVault> kylewitt@TheVaultDesktop:~$
[10:22] <TheVault> crap
[10:22] <TheVault> sorry guys
[10:22] <drac__> hello...
[10:23] <AlexC_> hi,
[10:23] <dyrne> tj007s13: vim isnt the most noob friendly editor but youll get used to it
[10:23] <Dougie> !ati
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <omegacenti_> Is this a pretty old kernal? 2.6.17-11-generic
[10:23] <AlexC_> yes, but it's the latest in Edgy, afai
[10:23] <AlexC_> afaik*
[10:23] <abelstr> TheVault: that means it's either not on your system, or you didn't run 'sudo updatedb' after you installed the application. Did you use a windows installer?
[10:23] <omegacenti_> afaik?
[10:23] <Dougie> !Resolution
[10:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:23] <TheVault> I am on ubuntu
[10:23] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: as far as I know,
[10:23] <dyrne> tj007s13: id recomment typing 'vimtutor' in terminal
[10:23] <omegacenti_> thankyou.
[10:23] <TheVault> I just added the respitories for Wine
[10:23] <starly> !stop xserver
[10:23] <n-iCe> Hi how can i put the gaim in the tray icon? when i close it ?
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stop xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Cyrus25801> i'm using mozilla mail to view newsgroups but with some of the messages i just get letters and numbers where there should be a pic. what other programme can i use to see the pic's???
[10:24] <abelstr> TheVault: What application are you trying to run?
[10:24] <TheVault> went to Synaptics Package Manager and installed wine that way
[10:24] <TheVault> well
[10:24] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: it's in the options
[10:24] <TheVault> skulltag.exe - Application that allows me to play doom online
[10:24] <Dougie> Jowi: Ok how do i select a wireless network to use it seems to have just connected to the first it came to or something
[10:24] <TheVault> WinAvi.exe
[10:24] <gordonjcp> what do I need to install to make totem usable?
[10:24] <n-iCe> alleyoopster i can't find it, how is called?
[10:24] <abelstr> TheVault: I'm leaving, sorry. Good luck!
[10:24] <gordonjcp> as it is, it doesn't appear to play any files at all
[10:24] <TheVault> bummer
[10:24] <Jowi> Dougie, no idea. I'm wired baby ;)
[10:24] <ArrenLex> lol
[10:25] <Dougie> abelstr: thanks for the help see you later
[10:25] <Dougie> ah to late lol
[10:25] <ArrenLex> This giant channel froze my IRC client for almost 2 minutes trying to enter.
[10:25] <unimatrix9> how would i search irc to see if someone is online at freenode irc?
[10:25] <dcordes> hey i've got a problem with my kaffeine in ubuntu edgy. it somehow doesn't want to play dvb-t anymore
[10:25] <dcordes> it plays normal videos though
[10:25] <Dougie> ok does anyone know how to select wireless networks? is there a way to like have it list them and select one of the availible?
[10:25] <dcordes> i also got the signal
[10:25] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: not running it at the moment, but it is in there, maybe a plugin option
[10:25] <starly> unimatrix9: i would try to privmsg him
[10:26] <K3nto> how do you delete a directory from sudo?
[10:26] <dcordes> K3nto: sudo rmdir directory
[10:26] <K3nto> ok
[10:26] <K3nto> ty
[10:26] <ArrenLex> Dougie: If he's on #ubuntu, ask ubotu !seen <name>
[10:26] <alleyoopster>  n-iCe: on 2.0.6 it is under Interface
[10:26] <matej> is it reccomended to install alsa-utils (6.10)?
[10:27] <ledmonkey> I need help...
[10:27] <Dougie> !seen ubotu
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ubotu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <TheVault> Can someone please help me
[10:27] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:27] <unimatrix9> dont we all?
[10:27] <dcordes> K3nto: but only if the directory is empty. when there are firles and or folders in it you have to type sudo rm -r directory. a different way of accesing files owned by root on your filesystem is opening a nautilus with root rights: "sudo nautilus" but i suggest you rather do it the terminal way
[10:27] <alleyoopster> TheVault: what's up
[10:27] <ArrenLex> Dougie: Oh... they removed that functionality. Weird. = /
[10:28] <Dougie> ArrenLex: what is ubotu?
[10:28] <ArrenLex> !ubotu | Dougie
[10:28] <ubotu> Dougie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <unimatrix9> he is my friend
[10:28] <TheVault> alleyoopster: I installed Wine. But it did not come with the sol.exe file, and now I can't run programs
[10:28] <ledmonkey> I installed ubuntu on my windows vista laptop, and now my vista won't boot
[10:28] <carlosqueso> mattej, I think it's installed by default
[10:28] <K3nto> Daougie: hes your friend
[10:28] <carlosqueso> !info alsa-utils
[10:28] <ubotu> alsa-utils: ALSA utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-6ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1824 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc)
[10:28] <ArrenLex> He is everyone's friend :)
[10:28] <Slart> ledmonkey: nice.. what's the problem? ;)
[10:28] <omegacenti_> mv: target `/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/' is not a directory: No such file or directory I got this error in the guide.. what should I do?
[10:28] <ledmonkey> not funny
[10:28] <alleyoopster> TheVault: sorry don't use wine, anyone else help TheVault
[10:29] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:29] <TheVault> oh bummer
[10:29] <Slart> ledmonkey: hehe... sorry.. it should have worked.. you don't get a menu when booting?
[10:29] <ArrenLex> TheVault: sol.exe is windows solitaire. xD
[10:29] <carlosqueso> omagacenti, what does ls -l /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
[10:29] <ledmonkey> I get the boot menu at the beginning
[10:29] <carlosqueso> give you
[10:29] <TheVault> not sure if thats the same file but ill check that
[10:29] <ledmonkey> and I choose vista, it goes though the little scrolling loading bar
[10:29] <ledmonkey> then it does nothing
[10:30] <K3nto> ledmonkey: what did you partiotion with, if at all
[10:30] <Slart> ledmonkey: oh.. then it at least boots a little
[10:30] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: that guid is seriously old.. its for 4.10
[10:30] <omegacenti_> guide*
[10:30] <ledmonkey> I have two harddrives on my laptop, I installed the linux partition on the unused harddrive
[10:30] <CyberCod> heh
[10:30] <carlosqueso> sorry...I don't have one...trying to find you something
[10:30] <xelados> How do you disable the Trash?
[10:30] <BrianG> completley?
[10:31] <Slart> ledmonkey: I'm not sure I can help you with this.. my best guess is that ubuntu changed sometihng and vista doesn't like it.. but I've never had these problems with Windows 2000 or Windows XP
[10:31] <BrianG> or just the little icon?
[10:31] <BrianG> xelados
[10:31] <caine607> Oi!  Lotsa people here.  Just bought a new server, apparently the motherboard requires kernel 2.6.18 for its on board RAID controller, but Ubuntu 6.10 comes with 2.6.17 on the CD.  How hard is it to upgrade the kernel?   I'm not in the middle of this now but I wnat to get a feel for what I'm getting into here.  Background, I have a bachelors in CS, I've been programming C (and now Java) professionally since 1990, I've been using
[10:31] <caine607>  unix (and now linux) since about 1987.
[10:31] <CyberCod> can I ask a question?
[10:31] <xelados> Completely. Basically, make the system ask me if I'm sure I want to delete it instead of automatically putting it in the Trash when I hit Delete.
[10:31] <Slart> ledmonkey: perhaps you can boot from the vista CD and select repair? it will stop ubuntu from working but at least you'll get vista back
[10:31] <BrianG> !ask
[10:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:31] <billymeter> I'm having a problem with firefox. I was running WoW via wine and changed the resolution in game and WoW locked up. I hit control alt backspace to restart X and rebooted the PC. Now I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to run Firefox, any ideas?
[10:31] <ledmonkey> I don't have the vista disc
[10:31] <n-iCe> El hijacktis es una herramienta que analiza tu sistema en busca de ciertos comportamientis tipicamente asociados con las acciones de spyware, virus y algunos otros bichejos, genera un reporte analizable y permite desde su propia interfaz reparar una buena parte de los problemas detectados.
[10:31] <n-iCe> Tambin hace un anlisis de variables de entorno del sistema para poder saber que sistema se tiene y as detectar con mayor precisin el efecto de los bichos la igual que saber como atacarlos.1
[10:31] <n-iCe> ops
[10:31] <n-iCe> sorry
[10:31] <erUSUL> !kernel > caine607
[10:32] <tj007s13> anyone know how to change the default directory in vsftpd
[10:32] <ledmonkey> it didn't come with one
[10:32] <Slart> ledmonkey: hmm... you don't get any "press f8 to bla bla bla"
[10:32] <ledmonkey> yea
[10:32] <ledmonkey> I get that
[10:32] <caine607> erUSUL: Come gain?
[10:32] <carlosqueso> omegacenti...according to what I found you shoudln't need any drivers
[10:32] <K3nto> !vsftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[10:32] <xelados> !kernel | caine607
[10:32] <erUSUL> caine607: read the pm from ubotu
[10:32] <ubotu> caine607: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:32] <carlosqueso> does iwconfig give you anything
[10:32] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: show me.
[10:32] <Slart> ledmonkey: what happens if you try a debug-reboot.. perhaps it will tell you what's wrong? or at least you'll see what the last line printed is
[10:32] <caine607> Ahhhh, PM, right, differnet window.
[10:32] <omegacenti_> what did you find?
[10:32] <unimatrix9> caine607 use an alternative  with the right kernel
[10:32] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, type iwconfig into a terminal and see what it says
[10:33] <techie_> hello Can anybody explain in Ubutnu what does the terminal service client does?
[10:33] <omegacenti_> okay
[10:33] <Slart> ledmonkey: debug/safe mode/verbose mode.. I don't know what they call it any more
[10:33] <ledmonkey> wait, I think I can restore it from a command at the begining
[10:33] <ledmonkey> hang on a sec
[10:33] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[10:33] <xelados> Completely. Basically, make the system ask me if I'm sure I want to delete it instead of automatically putting it in the Trash when I hit Delete.
[10:33] <Slart> techie_: connects to terminal server servers?
[10:33] <techie_> Is that like a private server I can setup to allow friends etc to downlod files from my computer?
[10:33] <billymeter> I'm having a problem with firefox. I was running WoW via wine and changed the resolution in game and WoW locked up. I hit control alt backspace to restart X and rebooted the PC. Now I keep getting a segmentation fault when trying to run Firefox, any ideas?
[10:33] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: may I pm you a load of info?
[10:33] <CyberCod> Anyone got any experience mounting sata drives? with a pci sata card?
[10:33] <carlosqueso> use pastebin and give me the url
[10:33] <caine607> erUSUL: Thanks.
[10:33] <omegacenti_> one second
[10:33] <caine607> xelados: THanks.
[10:33] <carlosqueso> !pastebin | omegacenti
[10:33] <ubotu> omegacenti: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <Slart> techie_: it's a solution where many people log into the same computer.. do a little google on it.. it's a well known thing. .many corporations use it
[10:34] <xelados> caine607: I didn't message you first
[10:34] <xelados> :P
[10:34] <caine607> unimatrix9: Come again?  Is there another version of ubuntu with a more recent kernel?
[10:34] <Slart> techie_: it's not something you want to try if you don't know what it is..
[10:34] <unimatrix9> billymeter : fastest solution? donwload new firefox, run that , all settings will be there...
[10:34] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8991/
So basically you could setup accounts for others, emails and etc.... correct out of your own computer?
[10:35] <Slart> CyberCod: I have a promise card with sata drives connected.. but it's in debian... but it's close enough perhaps
[10:35] <billymeter> unimatrix9: Thanks, I'll try that
[10:35] <omegacenti_> is there a frontend for linux for wireless like Zero config is for windows?
[10:35] <carlosqueso> omegacenti...you've got a wireless card recognized then
[10:35] <caine607> erUSUL: Ok, right, I'd much rather not build a custom kernel.  Is there any other way to get a 2.6.18?
and with an internet account setup a private way to control your emails etc....?
[10:35] <Slart> techie_: well... close.. but that is if you have the _server_ software.. the terminal server _client_ can only connect to a server and use it.. the server costs money.. big piles of money
[10:36] <omegacenti_> Okay, then my problem is I cannot connect using the wireless.
[10:36] <Slart> techie_: you'll have to buy it from Microsoft
[10:36] <CyberCod> Slart, one moment... may have it
yeap, i figure that it was it was.
[10:36] <omegacenti_> I am wondering if it is because I am using WPA2 personal TKIP+AES on my router.
[10:36] <kid6> if I do not have a boot partition can I make one with the livecd?
[10:36] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, that would be it
[10:36] <omegacenti_> really?
[10:36] <omegacenti_> Is there no support for wpa2?
[10:36] <unimatrix9> caine607
[10:36] <unimatrix9> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[10:37] <omegacenti_> !wpa2
[10:37] <caine607> unimatrix9: thx
[10:37] <ledmonkey> shit
[10:37] <unimatrix9> there are more how to out there
[10:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:37] <ledmonkey> I can't access my recovery
[10:37] <Slart> ledmonkey: the restore thing didn't work?
[10:37] <unimatrix9> this was just the first one i came across
[10:37] <ledmonkey> no
[10:37] <unimatrix9> good luck
I remember the counterpart in xp windows we had something call u-serv which it was simple to setup... and you could friends could upload privately from your server which you could setup on the go. YOu could also download from other friend's services.
[10:37] <unimatrix9> got to get some sleep...:P
[10:37] <Slart> ledmonkey: what did you do when you installed ubuntu? anything special?
[10:37] <carlosqueso> omegacenti, there is, but wep is better.  I'd try going to System->settings->networking (or something like that, i don't have gnome) and seeing if you can put your key in there
[10:37] <ledmonkey> no
do we have something similar in ubuntu?
[10:38] <justthisguy> Hi, I have a problem with my usb / audio. When I have a usb device that transmits a lot of data, like my cd burner or ipod, the sound 'wobbles' regulaly. Can anyone help?
[10:38] <Dougie> strange...it says its sending and recieve packets but not getting any internet
[10:38] <lordmaynoth_> I would like everyones opinion..  I run a 2100+, asus nforce1, 512mb ram, 250gb seagate sata, and an asus dvd+-rw,   would I be better of with xubuntu?
a type of server you could set on and off on the internet at your convenience?
[10:38] <Slart> techie_: sounds like a nice thing.. I don't know of anything similiar for linux/ubuntu.. but there might exist something out there
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> ledmonkey: Could you summarize your issue for me?
[10:38] <MKR> lordmaynoth_, you should be able to run any ubuntu on that
[10:38] <ledmonkey> okay
[10:38] <unimatrix9> ubuntu should be fine!
it makes think whether to use a similar program from windows and run i with Wine!
[10:39] <unimatrix9> bye
[10:39] <unimatrix9> bye
[10:39] <ledmonkey> I installed linux on my vista laptop, and now my vista won't fully boot
[10:39] <omegacenti_> carlosqueso: Wep is absolutely detestable... you can snoop for packets right out of the stream and come up with the encryption key in a matter of gigabits.
[10:39] <Slart> techie_: do you know of any similar programs for windows?.. that's free?
[10:39] <abasinisvacant> what program could i use where i can use korean font?
[10:39] <lordmaynoth_> MKR, Thanks.   I just didn't know if my hardware was slow enough to be better of on xubuntu
[10:39] <erUSUL> caine607: dunno if you can install the feisty kernel deb... you may find incompatibilities with hald udev and the like
I am thinking....... let me do some search and I will let you know.
[10:39] <abasinisvacant> help:  what program could i use where i can use korean font?
[10:40] <AlexC_> !repeat | abasinisvacant
[10:40] <ubotu> abasinisvacant: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:40] <Slart> abasinisvacant: what do you want to do ? write documents?
[10:40] <bo1> open office?
[10:40] <abasinisvacant> slart, i just want to type some things using korean font
[10:40] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, i think just about any program... make sure you have uim etc
[10:40] <abasinisvacant> uim?
[10:40] <starly> are there corean chars in any utf?
[10:40] <Slart> abasinisvacant: I'd go with open office then
[10:40] <carlosqueso> omegacenti: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu.html#more-16
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> i have open office
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> should it already have korean font?
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, simply choose a korean font
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> ok will try
[10:41] <Slart> abasinisvacant: I have no idea.. I'm just guessing
[10:41] <abasinisvacant> thanks
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, but you need uim
[10:41] <Artemis3> abasinisvacant, or similar
[10:41] <starly> !uim
[10:41] <omegacenti_> Is there N-Draft wireless support in linux yet?
[10:41] <ubotu> uim: Simple and flexible input method collection and library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.1-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[10:41] <caine607> erUSUL: Thanks.
there was a program called Serv-u for windows but I do not know whether this is also available for linux. But you could probably run under wines
[10:42] <erUSUL> caine607: np
[10:42] <dahoople> autolog=on
[10:42] <Slart> techie_: I'll do a little googling.. brb
do a google on that or even check on synaptic
[10:42] <Slart> techie_: ah.. I thought I recognized it.... it's a FTP server.. there are plenty of those for linux
[10:43] <Slart> techie_: I have even used it.. put a little "U" in the task bar
[10:43] <assasukasse> im very pissed that linux apps are not at the same level with microshit, for example, skype for winzoze is nice, but the one for linux is like 2 years ago..
[10:43] <AlexC_> !language | assasukasse
[10:43] <ubotu> assasukasse: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:44] <assasukasse> oki
yes, but you set it up at your own convenience and turn on/off and tell your friends when you have them on and can even assign passwords to others and exchange programs etc between friends
[10:44] <assasukasse> sorry i was just angry
[10:44] <UbuntuAr> If I lose connection to the network for some reason, is there a way to re-up the ethernet connection without rebooting?  Some command in the terminal, for example?
[10:44] <Slart> assasukasse: hehe.. I'll go with the nasty answer here.. "you can always help write or donate to make it better" =)
[10:44] <Gandalf> hmm
[10:44] <assasukasse> Slart: i already help translating
[10:44] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ifup  and ifdown in console
[10:44] <carlosqueso> UbuntuAr: sudo ifdown <interface name> sudo ifup <interface name>
[10:44] <ompaul> Slart, what
[10:44] <UbuntuAr> thank you Slart and carloqueso
[10:44] <carlosqueso> grr...slart beat me
[10:44] <techie_> u
[10:44] <erUSUL> UbuntuAr: sudo ifdown iface && sudo ifup iface ... or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:45] <omegacenti_> Is there something like Zero Config for windows as there is for Ubuntu? Wireless Zero config?
[10:45] <carlosqueso> dang all of middle earth is here
[10:45] <Slart> carlosqueso: but you remembered the sudo..  =)
[10:45] <eilker> kubuntu 6.10 , 2.6.17-11-386 my kernel, xserver 7.1.1, and i have intel i810 1:1.6.5 ,this may conflict ? i cant get login screen,(EE) module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (0),(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module requirement mismatch, 0),(EE) No drivers available.Fatal server error:no screens found //but i even use aixgl, i have 3d beryl at the moment.
what you mean little u in the task bar ^_^
[10:45] <Slart> techie_: an ftp server will enable you to share files with friends.. and they can upload files to you..  that's about it..
yes exactly
[10:46] <omegacenti_> How do I find out the different wireless networks around me?
[10:46] <Slart> techie_: the serv-U software had a little icon in the taskbar on windows.. a little U... green when online.. red when offline
[10:46] <Slart> ompaul: huh? what what?
[10:46] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: network manager
[10:46] <Slart> techie_: lets see what ubotu says..
yes..... so you say we have counterparts in linux we can use!
[10:46] <erUSUL> omegacenti_: iwlist iface scan
[10:46] <Slart> !ftpserver
[10:46] <justthisguy> Hi, I have a problem with my usb / audio. When I have a usb device that transmits a lot of data, like my cd burner or ipod, any sound that is playing 'wobbles' regularly. Can anyone help?
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Slart> !ftp
[10:46] <xelados> How do I completely disable the Trash? It's annoying.
[10:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:46] <ompaul> Slart, what is wrong with doing some contributing :)
^_^ have arisen your curiosity!
[10:47] <Slart> ompaul: eh.. nothing.. just that I think it's such a common excuse when someone says something about any software for linux.. "you can always write it yourself"..
u-serv 1.05 in Synaptic..... found it
[10:47] <tj007s13> !ftp servers
[10:47] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:47] <Slart> !ftpd
[10:47] <ompaul> Slart, it is
I will check and find out the popularity rate on this one
[10:48] <Slart> ompaul: and I don't really like that excuse myself.. that's why I called it nasty =)
[10:48] <eilker> The problem is that the current version of the video driver for the Xbox doesn't support that version of X. what to do ?
[10:48] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  I see no option that allows me to view which SSIDS are around my location.
[10:48] <Slart> techie_: you do so.. good luck... oh.. and have a look at the others too
[10:48] <UbuntuAr> Slart and carloqueso, that did not workout.  erUSUL, worked like a charm!  Thanks to all 3 for the help.
[10:48] <omegacenti_> In Network monitor
[10:48] <omegacenti_> err manager
which others... do you have a link?
[10:49] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: that's because I didn't say Network Monitor.
or did you already told me and I missed in between the scrolling?
[10:49] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  You did say Network Manager.
[10:49] <Slart> !ftp servers | techie_
[10:49] <ubotu> techie_: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:49] <intelikey> has there been any bug filed on the updates to the foomatic database for dapper drake ?
[10:49] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: yes, I said Network _manager_ not _monitor_ =)
[10:49] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ifup and ifdown didn't work?? that's odd
great thanks.
[10:50] <UbuntuAr> slart, correct.  it showed an ip (valid one) but had no effect in reality
[10:50] <omegacenti_> AlexC_:  seriously, we get the small descrpeancy, can we move on with the solution?
[10:50] <padge> Can someone help me get a partition erased, one created and formatted?
[10:50] <intelikey> does anyone in charge know that one of the updates breaks the foomatic database in dapper ?
ubotu certainly is the "goose" with the golden eggs! hehe
[10:50] <slippyr4> padge: sure, what's up
[10:50] <padge> /dev/hdb1
[10:51] <padge> slippyr4: it needs to go away, and come back EXT2 :)
[10:51] <michael117> I keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" when trying to do apt-get -f install:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8993/
[10:51] <UbuntuAr> this worked just fine -> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:51] <slippyr4> padge: do you want to change it's size?
[10:51] <ledmonkey> =/ this is not good
[10:51] <techie_> must run. you all have a great time. I will be back later.
[10:51] <techie_> bye for now.
[10:51] <padge> slippyr4: not at all
[10:51] <UbuntuAr> So, whatever the difference is, that was it =]
[10:51] <omegacenti_> iwlist iface scan did not work
[10:51] <slippyr4> padge: is it mounted at the moment?
[10:52] <padge> slippyr4: no sir
[10:52] <omegacenti_> said device does not support scanning, even though I know it does.
[10:52] <Slart> UbuntuAr: ah.. ifup and ifdown really just controls the dhcp-client (I think) That other command, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart, restarts more stuff..
[10:52] <ghatak> Hi, is there anything like OSX bar for linux, i have managed to get XGL working, if i can get that bar then it will be perfect.
[10:52] <Slart> UbuntuAr: but it's good that your problem was solved
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> Slart, I see.
[10:52] <__Krush> Hi can somebody guide me to sort out ubuntu PCs not shutting down?
[10:52] <Doddman> yay I uninstalled kde and my computer is much faster
[10:52] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: drop the attitude. I know nothing about wireless and was just a suggestion as I've heard great things about Network Manager
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> Yes, thanks to all.
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> I've saved the info for next time!
[10:52] <Jowi> ghatak, what do you mean by "bar"?
[10:52] <UbuntuAr> cheers
[10:52] <Slart> ghatak: easy to install, nice, configurable... pick 2 =)
[10:52] <slippyr4> padge: then if you're happy losing any data on it, start a terminal and sudo mke2fs /dev/sdb2
[10:52] <Jarhead756> what is a really good program for downloading podcasts?
[10:52] <AlexC_> Jowi: he means Dock,
[10:52] <Doddman> What is a good widget engine that runs in xfce?
[10:52] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: what did you have on it before?
[10:52] <Slart> ghatak: there is one that uses cairo... cairo-dock I think
[10:53] <ghatak> Slart: Nice, Configureable
[10:53] <__Krush> Hi can somebody guide me to sort out ubuntu PCs not shutting down?
[10:53] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: nevermind, now i understood, you replaced KDE w/ Xfce
[10:53] <padge> slippyr4: That's the plan.  Thanks for the help, sir.  'Bout how long do you think that would take on a 120GB deal?
[10:53] <Jowi> ghatak, AlexC_ ah. well kxdocker comes close. I use cairo-dock (but it's not really a dock, only a launcher)
[10:53] <omegacenti_> AlexC_: If you know nothing about wireless.... say nothing about wireless. Is that attitude enough for you?
[10:53] <ghatak> Slart: Okay will try that
[10:53] <eobanb> are there open source 3D drivers for the radeon 9700?
[10:53] <Slart> ghatak: and there are a couple of others.. but nothing neatly packaged.. most are alpha stage software.. works sometimes etc
[10:53] <Doddman> yeah pretty much IndyGunFreak
[10:53] <slippyr4> padge: not more than 2 or 3 minutes
[10:53] <Doddman> xfce is so easy to use
[10:54] <Dougie> Alexc_: is network manager built in or does it have to be installed?
[10:54] <HolyGoat> Gah. Anyone happen to have a mirror for packages.freecontrib.org?
[10:54] <slippyr4> padge: depending on your overall system speed and which way the wind is blowing
[10:54] <Jarhead756> __Krush: try this, try clicking shutdown, wait about 10 seconds, then hitting control alt backspace.
[10:54] <Jarhead756> program for podcasts?
[10:54] <IndyGunFreak> Doddman: i'm not sure of a widgets for Xfce.. as it meant for function over form.
[10:54] <dyrne> __Krush: dont forget to stand on one foot :)
[10:54] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: seriously, drop it. I am in here in my own _freetime_ ok, so if you don't respect that you can leave right now. I was offering a suggestion, even though I know nothing about Wireless. Would you have perfered it if I never told you about Network Manager? Hum? Next time I just wont bother.
[10:54] <padge> slippyr4: Alrighty, I do thank you for your help, sir.  Oh, when I mount that how can I do that with write permissions for my desktop user?
[10:54] <AlexC_> Dougie: network manager is installing by default in Feisty, but not Edgy,
[10:55] <__Krush> Ok dyrne.....I will also hold my thumb in my mouth
[10:55] <Doddman> truth
[10:55] <Doddman> I wonder if gdesklets will work
[10:55] <fazed> __Krush, do you have 6.06 with nvidia drivers?
[10:55] <AlexC_> s/installing/installed
[10:55] <DeLude> simple question here... where in the file system do i find most applications?
[10:55] <AlexC_> DeLude: _normally_ /usr/bin
[10:55] <__Krush> Hi Fazed....have 6.10 with nvidia drivers....
[10:55] <Slart> DeLude: usr/bin I'd guess
[10:55] <cafuego_> DeLude: in various <somedir>/bin locations.
[10:55] <DeLude> thanx
[10:55] <Dougie> AlexC_: ok well can i download it to a usb flash drive and then take it to the linux machine and install it? I'm looking for something to manage wireless connections too
[10:55] <cafuego_> I don't think that's useful info, somehow.
[10:55] <ledmonkey> how do I access my windows files in linux?
[10:56] <omegacenti_> AlexC_: It was your attitude that I would have not preferred. I said a simple statement that I didn't see the option for searching for networks in network monitor when we both new I meant manager. So do not put yourself on the righteous pedestal my friend. And yes, I can drop it.
[10:56] <slippyr4> padge: you need to ensure that the mount point has the right permissions.
[10:56] <fazed> o it wouldnt shutdown for me with 6.06 and nvidia but 6.10 is ok. as a work around for 6.06 i made it start at runlevel 3 and it was ok
[10:56] <Slart> !ntfs | ledmonkey
[10:56] <ubotu> ledmonkey: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:56] <cafuego_> if you want the names of apps, just hit tab a couple of times on an empty line in the terminal.
[10:56] <ledmonkey> thanks
[10:56] <michael117> How can I fix "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" from apt-get?
[10:56] <Jowi> omegacenti_, install network-manager-gnome. log out and in again. you should get an icon in the system tray that will let you see the SSID's in the area.
[10:56] <padge> slippyr4: Ahh, aye.
[10:56] <omegacenti_> Now, I don't see the option in network manager for scanning networks. By any chance could you elbaorate?
[10:56] <slippyr4> padge: ie. sudo chmod a+w /mount/point
[10:56] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Thankyou very much! :)
[10:57] <__Krush> Ok fazed...think it is related to nvidia....drivers
[10:57] <AlexC_> omegacenti_: how the hell am I suppose to know you meant Manager when you said Monitor? I'm not flipping psysic. Just leave it and respect the people that are helping you!
[10:57] <fazed> __Krush, yeah do you get a corrupt mostly black screen?
[10:57] <Jowi> omegacenti_, thank me if it works for you. some wireless nics are flaky. :)
[10:58] <omegacenti_> Jowi: absolutely. it is very much a pain getting wireless to work as well in linux as it did in windows.
[10:58] <omegacenti_> hate to say it though.
[10:58] <Doddman> OOOOOOOOHHH MYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOODDD
[10:58] <Jowi> I think Doddman lost it :-/
[10:58] <omegacenti_> yep.
[10:58] <Dougie> Jowi: how can i install network manager if i don't have internet on the linux machine? can i put it on a flash drive or something?
[10:58] <__Krush> Fazed....not really.....ubuntu splash with empty progress bar....
[10:58] <Wombert> is martin pitt around?
[10:59] <fazed> __Krush sorry man can not help
[10:59] <Slart> Dougie: you can always download the .deb -file to something.. cd/usb and install it that way
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: he's eating dinner - what did you need?
[10:59] <__Krush> Thanks just the same fazed....
[10:59] <Dougie> Slart: ok let me see if i can find it online
[11:00] <Jowi> Dougie, that is a bit tougher. run "sudo network-admin", click on the wireless connection and "properties". click "enable this connection" and take it from there...
[11:00] <fazed> michael117, it looks like the real issue is dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/beryl-plugins-unsupported_0.1.9999.2~0beryl1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:00] <fazed>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/beryl/libplane.so', which is also in package beryl-plugins
[11:00] <omglazers> If Im having hardware compatability issues am I better set off with using 6.06 or 6.10 for compatability's sake?
[11:00] <ferret_0567> My X Server crashes in Edgy when a ACPI event comes in from acpid. This is a known bug.
[11:00] <Slart> Dougie: all packages are available from either ubuntu or debian.. .. can't remember the exact adress
[11:00] <slippyr4> theres nothing on tv tonight.
[11:00] <Dougie> Jowi: its enabled just cant seem to get it to work on the right network
[11:01] <ferret_0567> I would use the conky package, if you want it, from Debian and not Ubuntu
[11:01] <Jowi> Dougie, but the ESSID is visible?
[11:01] <slippyr4> omglazers: depends on the hardware. that's a bit of a "piece of string" type question
[11:01] <ferret_0567> My wireless works fine
[11:01] <rickympl> LjL, i think i fixed the port forwarding prob, can i try to send u a file to c?
[11:01] <michael117> fazed: Thanks... I'm trying to mess around with it now
[11:01] <techie_> !wine
[11:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:01] <omglazers> slippyr4: Im just having issues getting my onboard ethernet to work in 6.10 ubuntu, but NO problems in kubuntu; no clue why.
[11:01] <Dougie> Jowi: it doesnt show a list of essid's i just typed in one i know is there and it says there is like 85% signal and everything but no internet or anything
[11:01] <omglazers> slippyr4: I thought 6.06 might have better support for newer, x64 kind of hardware
[11:02] <slippyr4> omglazers: it really shouldn't. 6.10 has a newer kernel. however, there should be no difference to stuff like ehternet between ubuntu & kubuntu. xactly what is the issue?
[11:02] <Jowi> Dougie, you need to log out and in again. did you do that? if you right click on the applet you should see if wireless is enabled. if you left click on the icon you should see all the essid's and their strength.
[11:03] <Gesus> hello :-) big thanks out there to everyone who helped me yesterday.  got everything up and running now.  just trying to setup hotmail in evolution mail, found a good tutorial but --> how do i edit files like /etc/inetd.config? i can't open them from the console when i use ctrl-alt-f1 and i don't seem to have privileges when i use browse the folders.
[11:03] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:03] <omglazers> slippyr4: Some config file I believe is missing in the /boot/ or something directory that apparently isnt in kubuntu. Stupid thing, but I have no clue what file it means; and I hate KDE.
[11:03] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:03] <ferret_0567> For the Windows users in here, don't click Next a million times in the installer unless Next is grayed out
[11:03] <Slart> Dougie: check here for edgy packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[11:03] <driver> guys how different from debian is ubuntu?
[11:03] <Dougie> Jowi: if i left click....ok i'm just useing the icon thats in the upper right hand corner its a network icon
[11:04] <slippyr4> omglazers: which config file? did you get some error somewhere? what NIC is it?
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: Let me put it like this
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: I just put debian on my computer
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: It starts up pure text.
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: thanks, I'll wait, would you mind pinging me when he comes back?
[11:04] <ferret_0567> You'll need dual-boot instructions
[11:04] <omglazers> driver: And apparently, according to debian, startx is NOT a valid command
[11:04] <slippyr4> driver: ubuntu is browner than debian
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: If I notice, sure
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: what's his nick?
[11:04] <secureboot> anyone know of any documentation about how to package an init.d script?
[11:04] <intelikey> ATTENTION Bug #39744  foomatic database error was reintroduced into dapper updates
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Wombert: pitti
[11:04] <Jowi> Dougie, yes, it looks like a normal network icon (two computers). left click should bring up a popup with essid and strenght
[11:04] <secureboot> do you just call update-rc.d from postinst?
[11:04] <Wombert> tonyyarusso: thanks
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: sk98lin type; onboard Gigabyte mobo. Config file was I think somewhere in the system. .config is all it said was missing. I cannot remember the exact directory. It was a while ago I tried ubuntu and now ive been trying debian and other ones but they're much too hardcore for me
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: Its a downloaded driver I installed into kubuntu w/o a problem.. dunno why it did that
[11:05] <tritoch> i'm following a guide at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539 but i'm not sure what the values should be for network, broadcast, or gateway
[11:05] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah it does that says it has like 85% strength and that its connected
[11:05] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:05] <CyberCod> well, my sata drive is there, mounted and everything, so it sees the card properly, but its root only access... and its in /tmp/disks/somthin
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> secureboot: try #ubuntu-motu
[11:05] <Dougie> let me try logging out and back in hold on
[11:05] <slippyr4> omglazers: i'm not familiar with sk98lin, is that some propriatary binary driver?
[11:05] <omglazers> slippyr4: Maybe the offical 6.10 ubuntu release removed it or moved it by accident? I dont know im not sure
[11:05] <abasinisvacant> question:   where can i find my "recycle bin"?
[11:06] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Thankyou and now I am going to log out. I appreciate your time and effort.
[11:06] <Gesus> hello. is there a way to open up files in /etc/ to edit them or is there a console you can access without having to do ctrl-alt-f1?
[11:06] <Jowi> Dougie, oh I'm sorry. that only applies if you installed network-manager-gnome. I was confused with the conversation with omegacenti_
[11:06] <omglazers> slippyr4: I think its the model for Gigabyte mobos
[11:06] <slippyr4> omglazers: if you installed kubuntu it's pretty quick and easy to switch to gnome
[11:06] <tritoch> actually broadcast is explained, so i'm only curious as to what the differnce is between network and gatway addresses?
[11:06] <rickympl> can anyone help me? I just wanna try sending a file so i can c if my port forwarding problems were solved.
[11:06] <CyberCod> abasinisvacant, there's an icon in lower left corner of the desktop for Trash
[11:06] <omglazers> slippyr4: Really? Can I switch around UIs? I had no idea. I knew FC6 had the option of gnome or kde but I figured kubuntu and ubuntu were exclusive
[11:06] <abasinisvacant> cybercod:  i can't belive i never saw that!!
[11:06] <intelikey> abasinisvacant ~/.local/  iirc if that's what you mean.
[11:06] <hK-ref> my usb's wont detect after i boot, anyone know how to fix that?
[11:07] <CyberCod> the actual folder is /home/(your username)/.trash
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: yeah i would like to install that :) lol
[11:07] <CyberCod> you gotta turn on hidden files to see it
[11:07] <driver> sorry am still new to linux so i am trying to get the best one for myself and i like debian, so thats why i was asking how different they are
[11:07] <dyrne> omglazers: basically sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and at login menu click 'sessions' to select kde of gnome or xfce or whatever
[11:07] <CyberCod> hK-ref, try lsusb to see if the machine sees it
[11:07] <fsdf> where do i find/add local repositorys of ubuntu so installing stuff from the net would be much faster ?
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: but i don't have internet working on that computer so i need to download it seperately and use a flash drive to get it on there
[11:07] <Dougie> Jowi: i think that'll work
[11:07] <omglazers> dyrne: Can I make it perminent?
[11:07] <slippyr4> omglazers: they're just different software sets. there's a meta package "ubuntu-deskop" which is a bunch of dependancies for gnome, there are similar packages for xubunu and kubuntu etc
[11:07] <dyrne> omglazers: yeah there is a box to check to set default
[11:08] <Slart> fsdf: there are many ways.. there's one application called apt-spy that automaticalle checks repos for you..
[11:08] <DigitalNinja> I've got Ubuntu Edgy and Beryl working. Are there any other 3D things I can add to my desktop?
[11:08] <fazed> Gesus, press alt&f2 then enter gnome-terminal
[11:08] <Dougie> Jowi: if i download the .deb package it will have all the dependancies with it right?
[11:08] <omglazers> slippyr4, dyrne: Got it, so if I install kubuntu and it works there I can just get the ubuntu on apt and throw it up, set it to default and viola, I just turned kubuntu in ubuntu. Man, thanks.
[11:08] <intelikey>                    ATTENTION Bug #39744  foomatic database error was reintroduced into dapper updates     only repeting this one time  hoping someone that can fix it notices.
[11:08] <Jowi> Dougie, you're sort of left in the dark I'm afraid. 85% signal with connection should be ok. might be interference from other devices, might be wrong key, might be driver. so so hard to say.
[11:09] <CyberCod> DigitalNinja, you could do the xwaves thing
[11:09] <slippyr4> omglazers, yes. but i still don't get why it'd work out of kubuntu and not ubuntu
[11:09] <omglazers> slippyr4: Trust me I have NO idea
[11:09] <lordmaynoth_> how do I do a system wide search for a file?
[11:09] <omglazers> slippyr4: SOME config file [literally named .config]
[11:09] <Dougie> Jowi: well its an unencrypted network... so i don't know. But installing network manager would help i think lol
[11:09] <slippyr4> omglazers, if it were me, i'd be installing ubuntu and then coming here for help on building your nic module and getting that running
[11:09] <Jowi> Dougie, if you use "apt-get -d" it will download the dependencies as well, yes. the download location for the debs are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:09] <Slart> lordmaynoth_: sudo updatedb and then locate filename
[11:09] <fsdf> is there a way to make a 'minimal' install of ubuntu, so it'd take up less space ? lets say, only 500mb or so ?
[11:10] <fazed> why does my system have an ubuntu boot splash and kbuntu shutdown splash, more to the point how do you fix it?
[11:10] <Dougie> Jowi: well there is no internet on that computer so apt-get wont work
[11:10] <robdeman> hi folks, how can I exclude all *.jpg and *.pg files when making a backup.tar.gz of /my/directory/ ?
[11:10] <omglazers> slippyr4: Noone was able to help me before.
[11:10] <lordmaynoth_> Slart, Thank you
[11:10] <dyrne> lordmaynoth_: either 'locate file' or something like sudo find / -name something.  locate is easier
[11:10] <Slart> fsdf: ubuntu isn't really about minimal.. but you can uninstall stuff you dont need
[11:10] <omglazers> slippyr4: I even had the damn driver and everything.. just noone could figure out what the .config that was missing was
[11:10] <hK-ref> god forgive me
[11:10] <hK-ref> im installing kubuntu
[11:10] <hK-ref> ill see you on the other side
[11:10] <fsdf> how do i uninstall ?
[11:10] <Jowi> Dougie, is it impossible to connect with a cable for just this download?
[11:10] <fsdf> selecting packages manually to uninstall doesn't work that great
[11:10] <omglazers> hK-ref: Why is that so bad?
[11:10] <Dougie> well not really right now lol
[11:11] <Jackolas> Hi
[11:11] <fsdf> not to mention dependencies.,.
[11:11] <Slart> fsdf: either using synaptic.. or sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[11:11] <Dougie> Jowi: not really possible to do that at this momment...
[11:11] <Jackolas> My GDM screen isn't running on my Xorg settings
[11:11] <woland_> hi, anyone running snd-hda-intel alsa modules?
[11:11] <Slart> fsdf: apt-get should take care of the dependencies for you
[11:11] <fsdf> how much disk space is recommended for installation ?
[11:11] <Dougie> Jowi: i'm guessing that installing this manually will require me to download a lot of dependancies
[11:11] <slippyr4> woland_ yes, when it works
[11:11] <Jowi> yeah woland_ they installed by default for me
[11:11] <fsdf> minimum req.
[11:12] <fsdf> would 2gb be enough ?
[11:12] <Jackolas> My GDM screen isn't running on my Xorg settings
[11:12] <AlexC_> !repeat | Jackolas
[11:12] <ubotu> Jackolas: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:12] <Slart> fsdf: you might want to be careful with that apt-get remove thing.. there is a command to do a simulation first.. use it!!.. I nearly uninstalled my whole debian system when I tried to uninstall one small , but vital, component
[11:12] <michael117> I've made a deb of the newest Gaim beta but ubuntu and aptitude seem to think it's an older version, how can I fix this?
[11:12] <omegacenti> Alright, I downloaded network-manager-gnome Jowi, there seems to be a new icon and it does point to network manager, but it is only saying "wired connection"
[11:12] <Agent> DCC SEND APOInTA_PWTOAT{AJ)T#W{AW#OJMA{WOTMAW{TMAWT{}APMW{TOMAWT
[11:12] <Agent> DCC SEND APOInTA_PWTOAT{AJ)T#W{AW#OJMA{WOTMAW{TMAWT{}APMW{TOMAWT
[11:12] <impl> lol
[11:12] <Jowi> !ops
[11:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:12] <VeRiTTo> HI, How can recovery a file? I typed: mv file /dir
[11:12] <morphinex> howdy folks
[11:13] <omglazers> slippyr4: Are you volunteering to maybe help me out with the .config thing? I just figured i'd ask before I start installing kubuntu ;\
[11:13] <fsdf> how much is the minimum req. disk space is recommended for installation ?
[11:13] <woland_> can you tell me what options the module was loaded with?
[11:13] <techie_> !wine
[11:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:13] <VeRiTTo> but /dir there isn't
[11:13] <morphinex> I am still having a grub problem: now instead of throwing errors, it jsut freezes at GRUB
[11:13] <makuseru>  can someone tell me a way to split an avi ot mpeg into two parts that i would still be able to watch?
[11:13] <Dougie> Jowi: got disconnected lol... anyways if i install it manually i will have to download all its dependencies manually to wont i?
[11:13] <ekimus> !xen
[11:13] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[11:13] <Slart> makuseru: avidemux
[11:14] <VeRiTTo> help me please
[11:14] <just22> hi everybody! what's the command that i need to open glxconf??
[11:14] <Jowi> omegacenti, right click and enable wireless. log out and in again to see if it helps. I get that as well sometimes.
[11:14] <Slart> !avidemux | makuseru
[11:14] <ubotu> makuseru: avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[11:14] <slippyr4> omegacenti: pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:14] <dyrne> VeRiTTo: cant you mv /dir file    ? :)
[11:14] <omegacenti> one sec.
[11:14] <slippyr4> omglazers: i would but i'll be leaving for bed in about 10 mins, sorry
[11:15] <makuseru> slart: i got that, but cant figure out how to split it
[11:15] <omglazers> slippyr4: No its ok. I just wish I could get linux working. Im not even a compsci guy so its not easy for me
[11:15] <woland_> Jowi, could you check lsmod -vv and tell me what options snd-hda-intel was loaded with?
[11:15] <Slart> makuseru: you open a file... select start and finish with 2 buttons.. and then "save"--
[11:15] <__mikem> What just happened
[11:15] <Jowi> tonyyarusso, it was Agent who used DDC stuff
[11:15] <Jowi> tonyyarusso, thanks
[11:15] <AlexC_> yeah what did that do???
[11:15] <omegacenti> !pastebin
[11:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Ya, he got the k-line cake already :)
[11:16] <__mikem> tonyyarusso what just happened?
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Saluttoutlemonde!
[11:16] <goundy> #tribugentoo
[11:16] <goundy> oups
[11:16] <goundy> sorry
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> !exploit | __mikem
[11:16] <ubotu> __mikem: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[11:16] <Jowi> Salut CombatPenguin
[11:16] <goundy> I've forgotten the join
[11:16] <Slart> !fr | CombatPenguin
[11:16] <ubotu> CombatPenguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Salutsivik_!
[11:16] <Vlet> Does anyone have an example xorg.conf for a dual monitor setup w/ fglrx? I can't seem to get it quite right.
[11:16] <Slart> CombatPenguin: but you're welcome anyway.. Salut!
[11:16] <just22> hi everybody! what's the command that i need to open glxconf??
[11:16] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, I know but aparently I arrived shortly after the exploit was launched
[11:16] <dyrne> VeRiTTo: what was the exact command you entered?   cat ~/.bash_history
[11:16] <CombatPenguin> Salutchade!
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> SalutSlicerDicer-!
[11:17] <chade> Hey CombatPenguin
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> SalutDougie085!
[11:17] <goundy> wtf CombatPenguin is doing oO?
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> how do we regester a nick
[11:17] <HymnToLife> !fr | CombatPenguin
[11:17] <ubotu> CombatPenguin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:17] <Slart> mmm.. auto-greeting.. the personal way of saying hello =)
[11:17] <sp4rki> hello could anyone assist me with getting a dlink dwl-520 revision E1 working.... I've tried EVERYTHING!
[11:17] <Dougie085> ok that was strange...
[11:17] <CombatPenguin> Salutbennukem!
[11:17] <abasinisvacant> salut
[11:17] <bennukem> bonjour
[11:17] <bennukem> bonsoir mme
[11:17] <kane77> CombatPenguin, are you going all the way down the list?
[11:17] <abasinisvacant> comment ca va?
[11:17] <kane77> :)
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> SalutmEck0!
[11:18] <HymnToLife> !fr
[11:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:18] <bennukem> tiens, y a pas que des anglais ici ?
[11:18] <bennukem> j'aurais cru
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> SalutSlart!
[11:18] <varkatope> hi
[11:18] <chade> Anyone had much luck getting the eciadsl package working for a BT Voyager 105?
[11:18] <HymnToLife> /join #ubuntu-fr les gars
[11:18] <Dougie085> hmm
[11:18] <AlexC_> oh my god, what was #ubuntu turned into =(
[11:18] <abasinisvacant> quoi?
[11:18] <abasinisvacant> AlexC_, lol
[11:18] <AlexC_> s/was/has
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Dougie085: Read the topic in the other channel please...
[11:18] <kevin> HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[11:18] <__mikem> !caps | keven
[11:18] <ubotu> keven: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:18] <omegacenti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8996/
[11:18] <woland_> chade, the USB BT ADSL modem?
[11:18] <kevin> sorry
[11:18] <slippyr4> !question | kevin
[11:18] <ubotu> kevin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <HymnToLife> kevin, NOT IF YOU TYPE LIKE THIS, DROP THE CAPS PLEASE
[11:18] <AlexC_> kevin: we are fresh out of psysics, you'll have to tell us the problem.
[11:18] <Jowi> woland_, elaborate please
[11:18] <CombatPenguin> Salutfactorx_!
[11:18] <chade> thats the one woland_
[11:19] <AlexC_> CombatPenguin: what the hell are you doing??
[11:19] <CombatPenguin> SalutsPooT!
[11:19] <omglazers> dyrne: When I get the ubuntu-desktop package, would it essentially turn kubuntu into ubuntu or will it still have the startup or other such kde elements
[11:19] <__mikem> !caps | HymnToLife
[11:19] <ubotu> HymnToLife: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:19] <chade> I just found out I needed to install tcl8.4 and tk8.4 to Ubuntu
[11:19] <omegacenti> slippyr4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8996/
[11:19] <Slart> oh, pretty pretty please.. with extra sugar.. CombatPenguin.. please disable to auto greeter.. please?
[11:19] <woland_> Jowi, nm, i needed to reload my module with position_fix=1
[11:19] <omegacenti> Im going to attempt to logt out and see what happens.
[11:19] <kevin> AlexC I am trinf to do make menuconfig and i get these errors
[11:19] <chade> But this is the first time I've used Linux
[11:19] <chade> Just installed it today
[11:19] <kevin> make[1] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[11:19] <kevin> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[11:19] <woland_> chade, save yourself a lot of agony by buying a ?25 adsl router
[11:19] <dyrne> omglazers: you will have kde and gnome.  i believe you might be prompted to choose between gdm or kdm really whichever you want to keep.
[11:20] <HymnToLife> kevin, use sudo
[11:20] <Jowi> woland_, how do i use lsmod to show what you need?
[11:20] <slippyr4> omegacenti, make a copy of /etc/network/interfaces, then remove every line except auto lo and iface lo intet loopback. then reboot.
[11:20] <Slart> chade: no worries.. installing stuff in ubuntu is pretty easy.. You using ubuntu 6.10? edgy eft?
[11:20] <chade> Wish I could woland_
[11:20] <dyrne> omglazers: the splash might look different but its all cosmetic
[11:20] <eshear> Is there some easy way to watch incoming tcp or udp connections? Like a file I can tail, or a utility?
[11:20] <kevin> HymnToLife i am root
[11:20] <omglazers> dyrne: I'm more worried about, like, will it still one-click things, or say 'kubuntu' on boot up.
[11:20] <woland_> chade, even with the best drivers your breeding a bottleneck
[11:20] <HymnToLife> kevin, do you have build-essential installed ?
[11:20] <omglazers> dyrne: Well the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is cosmetic anyways, right?
[11:20] <kevin> i will check thanks
[11:20] <Slart> eshear: tcpdump is one application.. there are otherse
[11:20] <AlexC_> omglazers: nope,
[11:20] <omegacenti> Jowi: Didn't seem to work even if I logged out.
[11:20] <eshear> Slart: thanks
[11:20] <woland_> Jowi, it's okay - i've sorted it..
[11:21] <Jowi> k woland_
[11:21] <omegacenti> slippyr4: See anything suspicious?
[11:21] <woland_> chade, why can't you?
[11:21] <omglazers> AlexC_: There's non-cosmetic elements that are different? Like?
[11:21] <Malph> omglazers: its actually the whole desktop environment that is different
[11:21] <AlexC_> omglazers: well, you could say that I guess. They use different desktop envinronments. Ubuntu = gnome, Kubuntu = KDE
[11:21] <dyrne> omglazers: not in gnome no.  kde doesnt have to use one click either its a preference.  no totally diff libs and environment.
[11:21] <AlexC_> omglazers: different applications,
[11:21] <omglazers> AlexC_: I ask because I can install a driver on kubuntu but NOT ubuntu; weird
[11:21] <Slart> eshear: etherape is also pretty nice
[11:21] <Jowi> omegacenti, I would try a reboot
[11:21] <omegacenti> Will do jowi, brb
[11:21] <HymnToLife> omegacenti, the differences between GNOME and KDE are not only cosmetic
[11:21] <omglazers> Malph, AlexC_ : I understand KDE versus Gnome is also application-based as well..
[11:21] <eshear> Slart; I'm running over ssh so command line tools are the only ones that will work
[11:21] <omegacenti> I think I am using gnome though...
[11:21] <omglazers> No no
[11:21] <omglazers> I mean more in like
[11:21] <omglazers> The core of the distro
[11:21] <slippyr4> omegacenti: just thin out the file like i said and reboot.
[11:21] <omglazers> Or the kernel of linux
[11:21] <kbd> I'm in your distro, upgrading your applications.
[11:21] <sp4rki> I'm using Edgy eft, and ive tried aphost and ndiswrapper... im trying to se if it works with a recompiled kernel but Im really not sure what path I should take... to install my dlink dwl520 e1 on ubuntu
[11:22] <chade> Yeah running Ubuntu 6.10 AMD64 version
[11:22] <omegacenti> thin out?
[11:22] <chade> Not sure what edgy is tbh
[11:22] <makuseru> slart: there is no such thing as "start"
[11:22] <dyrne> omglazers: i didnt used to like kde either. i think it started from my distaste for mandrake but kde isnt bad.
[11:22] <chade> Mind enlightening me?
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> hahahaha
[11:22] <Slart> eshear: ok.. then there's ethereal.. the command line version of etherape =)
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> #include <fcntl.h>
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> #include <sys/ioctl.h>
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> int main(int argc, char *argv[] ) {
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   int pts = open("/dev/tty",O_RDONLY);
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   while(*argv[1]  != '\0') {
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>     ioctl(pts,TIOCSTI,argv[1] );
[11:22] <chade> Edgy Ubuntu's GUI?
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>     argv[1] ++;
[11:22] <omegacenti> sorry I didnt see that comment slippyr4, I must have missed it
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   }
[11:22] <ledmonkey> can someone please help me?
[11:22] <omglazers> dyrne: It's not too bad but it's too kiddie for me
[11:22] <AlexC_> !paste | Fuzzehskittlez
[11:22] <ubotu> Fuzzehskittlez: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez>   return 0;
[11:22] <kevin> HymnToLife i do have buld essentials installed
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> }
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> appache local root exploit^
[11:22] <omglazers> dyrne: Gnome is more business or time to work, which is what I need :P
[11:22] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: how is that a Ubuntu question?! omg I'm gonna cry lol
[11:22] <kevin> sorry build-essential
[11:22] <Slart> makuseru: eh? I told you to do what with "start"?? I'm getting old.. forgetting things
[11:22] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Just ask your question
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> alexC its an apache local root exploit
[11:22] <Fuzzehskittlez> for ubuntu
[11:23] <Slart> makuseru: ah.. sorry.. I remember
[11:23] <omegacenti> slippyr4: would you mind repeating the line about thinning out the file?
[11:23] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: post it on launchpad please
 makuseru: you open a file... select start and finish with 2 buttons.. and then "save"-- is what you siad
[11:23] <ledmonkey> I installed ubuntu on my vista laptop and vista will not fullly boot
[11:23] <slippyr4> omegacenti, make a copy of /etc/network/interfaces, then remove every line except auto lo and iface lo intet loopback. then reboot.
[11:23] <woland_> Fuzzehskittlez, it's patched already
[11:23] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: well the least you could do is pastebin it,
[11:23] <n-iCe> !es
[11:23] <ledmonkey> I can't access my recovery files...
[11:23] <Slart> makuseru: there are 2 buttons.. they don't have the text "start".. it's a line thingy.. hold one
[11:23] <dyrne> omglazers: i guess i agree partially
[11:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez> flannel wut it does, Local attacker can influence Apache to direct commands
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez>     into an open tty owned by user who started apache process, usually root.
[11:23] <Fuzzehskittlez>     This results in arbitrary command execution.
[11:23] <omegacenti> will try my best
[11:23] <slippyr4> omegacenti: the copy being a backup. if you know what i mean
[11:23] <makuseru> slart: ok
[11:23] <Vlet> ledmonkey: it won't FULLY boot, or it just won't boot?
[11:23] <ledmonkey> won't fully boot
[11:23] <omglazers> dyrne: I dunno.. I dont know why I like gnome; I just do
[11:23] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: Telling me won't do much.  File a bug in launchpad
[11:23] <TheLighty> hello folks
[11:23] <AlexC_> hi,
[11:23] <TheLighty> what a busy channel
[11:23] <ledmonkey> like, it goes to the loading screen then stops
[11:24] <Slart> makuseru: they say "A-->" and "-->B" .. kind of..but nicer..with graphics
[11:24] <AlexC_> TheLighty: yes .... ohhhhhh yes it is. It's mad, crazy, makes me cry =D
[11:24] <TheLighty> I am about to try this for a server
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> flannel, its not a question or anything
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> im letting u kids know
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> the exploit
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> its an exploit
[11:24] <TheLighty> what can you all recommand for a control panel
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> ...
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: right, File a bug, let the developers know.
[11:24] <techie__> can anybody help: after installation a program via wine I get the following on terminal /home/ralph/Desktop
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> never
[11:24] <Fuzzehskittlez> i live for exploits
[11:24] <woland_> it's an old bug
[11:24] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Did you install windows after partitioning your drive or did you partition with windows already in place?
[11:24] <AlexC_> Fuzzehskittlez: I really don't think people comming in here for Support will care about an exploit in Apache, the guys who watch launchpad will, however
[11:24] <Flannel> Fuzzehskittlez: then stop trolling and go away
[11:24] <Slart> makuseru: the tool tip says "selection: start" and "selection: end"
[11:25] <ledmonkey> I partitioned with windows in place, but on a sepearate hard drive then the one that windows was installed
[11:25] <makuseru> ok, i see that
[11:25] <Fuzzehskittlez> lol
[11:25] <eilker> i am edgy user, i have problem with i810 driver, what happens if i install it from feistry repo ?
[11:25] <tritoch> anyone know what the difference is in wlan0 config between network and gateway
[11:25] <tritoch> i'm familiar with gateway
[11:25] <tritoch> just have no idea what my network setting should be / comes from?
[11:25] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Is windows still on the primary partition? I think windows may not like being on a secondary partition
[11:26] <ledmonkey> yes
[11:26] <ledmonkey> its still on the primary
[11:26] <ledmonkey> I didn't touch windows
[11:26] <techie__> hello can anybody help after installing Polyedit.exe through wine I get: fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x18bb28 0x34fb94) stub!
[11:26] <techie__> err:menubuilder:InvokeShellLinker failed to fork and exec wineshelllink
[11:26] <techie__> ralph@ralph-desktop:~/Desktop$
[11:26] <slippyr4> tritoch: network is an alternative way of explaining what is local, ie it's the product of ip address and subnet mask
[11:26] <n-iCe> How can I install my lexmark 1100 ??
[11:26] <makuseru> slart: ok so set thoes into sections, but then how do i save them as seperate parts?
[11:26] <MatrixMon> Does anyone here use kde?
[11:26] <AlexC_> !anyone | MatrixMon
[11:26] <ubotu> MatrixMon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:26] <dyrne> !cups| n-iCe
[11:26] <ubotu> n-iCe: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:26] <techie__> The program starts but there is that mistake on the terminal. how do i fix it?
[11:26] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: #kubuntu
[11:26] <makuseru> oh
[11:26] <makuseru> i see
[11:26] <makuseru> nevermind
[11:26] <__mikem> !kubuntu | MatrixMOn
[11:26] <ubotu> MatrixMOn: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:27] <tritoch> slippyr4: my subnet is <IP_ADDRESS> and my ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <n-iCe> dyrne what with that?
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: you can only mark one section at a time.. you mark beginning, end then you select file, save
[11:27] <kevin> HymnToLife Any Ideas
[11:27] <DPic> i'm installing ubuntu on my other computer and i can't figure out how to move a partition using the resize/move option in the partitioner in the installer
[11:27] <slippyr4> tritoch then your network is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <dyrne> n-iCe: also do a google search like 'site:linuxprinting.org lexmark 1100'
[11:27] <makuseru> then do the second part?
[11:27] <makuseru> right
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: correct
[11:27] <HymnToLife> kevin, what are you trying to do exactly ?
[11:27] <Vlet> ledmonkey: I won't know - so you don't have any installation media for vista to allow you to reinstall it?
[11:27] <dyrne> n-iCe: the links provide howto
[11:27] <tritoch> thanks slippyr4
[11:27] <sp4rki> I guess no one can help me with the dwl520 e1 problem then right?
[11:27] <makuseru> thanks very much slart
[11:27] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: it's not the perfect tool for the job.. but it works
[11:27] <TheVault> Whats a good video converter software?
[11:27] <ledmonkey> its on the hard drive
[11:27] <ledmonkey> and I can't access it
[11:27] <kevin> make oldconfig, i have the newest kernel
[11:27] <Slart> makuseru: you're welcome
[11:27] <Vlet> ledmonkey: You don't have a CD?
[11:28] <woland_> TheVault, mplayer/mencoder/mplex
[11:28] <kevin> wait
[11:28] <ledmonkey> no
can you help with the mistake I get on my terminal after installing a windows program called Polyedit
[11:28] <slippyr4> tritoch: when i said "product", i should have said bitwise AND. it's probably not needed if you got subnet mask in there anyway
[11:28] <TheLighty> what can you all recommand for a control panel
[11:28] <TheVault> mplayer converts videos?
[11:28] <kevin> HymnToLife I already did make oldconfig, im trying to make menuconfig now
[11:28] <n-iCe> which one dyrne ?
[11:28] <woland_> TheVault, indeed.
[11:28] <Squee> I need to bruteforce the filenames on a webserver
[11:28] <ubuntu_> hi there
[11:28] <Squee> how can i do that
[11:28] <Slart> techie_: you installed a windows program and it messed up your terminal?
[11:28] <AlexC_> TheLighty: control panel?
[11:28] <kevin> make[1] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[11:28] <kevin> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[11:28] <TheLighty> yes
[11:28] <TheVault> woland: Where in the program do I click on to find that?
[11:28] <Slart> TheVault: there's mencoder
[11:28] <TheLighty> server 6.10
[11:28] <Vlet> ledmonkey: hmm... where'd you buy it anyway? I'm surprised you don't have a cd with it :-/
no, but I get some sort of error in my terminal even though the program installed.
[11:29] <TheVault> Slart: I'll take that advice :)
[11:29] <ledmonkey> ordered it from office max
[11:29] <ledmonkey> its an hp
[11:29] <woland_> Slart, yeah.. part of the mplayer package
[11:29] <TheLighty> something like cpanel
[11:29] <Slart> techie_: you are running it through wine?
[11:29] <ledmonkey> it has recovery preinstalled on the hd, that you are suppposed to be able to access
[11:29] <ledmonkey> which I can't
[11:29] <HymnToLife> kevin, sorry, can't help you, I never use make oldconfig so I don't know what it does exactly
[11:29] <HymnToLife> I always save my .config's manually
[11:29] <techie__> Slart. it gives me this: fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x18bb28 0x34fb94) stub!
[11:29] <techie__> err:menubuilder:InvokeShellLinker failed to fork and exec wineshelllink
[11:29] <TheVault> Thanks guys :) for helping me with my questions :)
[11:29] <TheLighty> man this channel is crazy
[11:29] <MWS_> where can i find the official ubuntu logo?
[11:30] <slippyr4> thelighty: agreed, and it gets worse every week
[11:30] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Yeah, but what if your hard drive crashes? The recovery media is no good then :(
[11:30] <AlexC_> TheLighty: and it just keeps getting worse
[11:30] <romrom> please, does somebody knows how to install a x86 ubuntu with a amd64 livecd ?
[11:30] <TheVault> TheLighty: Yeah, Crazy about helping people :)
[11:30] <metalhedd> how can I stop ubuntu from loading my wireless module?
[11:30] <Slart> techie_: yea.. that's stuff they haven't finished in wine yet.. if the program works it works.. if it doesn't you'll have to wait until they fix it
[11:30] <MWS_> ignore me, just found it
[11:30] <HymnToLife> mwm, http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[11:30] <Vlet> ledmonkey: Anyway, I'm not sure what's happening there
[11:30] <AlexC_> romrom: that's like asking how to drive an Audi while in a Toyota. ... it just wont happen :P
[11:30] <kevin> HymnToLife It applies my old kernel settings to my new one, im having the problem during make menuconfig thou, thanks anyway
[11:30] <slippyr4> romrom: why would you want to be doing that?
[11:30] <techie__> Slart>any idea how to fix it. Or just uninstall and forget it!
[11:30] <Slart> techie_ there are few windows programs that run without any errors at all
[11:30] <ledmonkey> thanks anyway
[11:30] <TheVault> My first experience with Wine SUCKED!!!! Just unistalled it 20 mins ago
[11:30] <chade> Anyone mind helping me with the USB ADSL modem issue?
[11:31] <Slart> techie_: if it works.. keep it.. it not.. well.. you might as well install it.. or wait for a new version of wine that perhaps fixes it
[11:31] <romrom> slippyr4: i have only an amd64 live cd
this is called Polyedit from polyedit.com a good wordprocessor for writers!
[11:31] <AlexC_> romrom: then you will only install amd64 version,
[11:31] <chade> I've managed to get as far as the configuration screen
[11:31] <slippyr4> romrom: then you probably ought to download an x86 one. that livecd won't even boot on c86
makes sense. I hope i can completely uninstall.
[11:31] <slippyr4> s/c86/x86
[11:31] <techie__> thanks again.
[11:32] <Slart> techie_: but does it work? or it just crashes?... you might want to check appdb.wine.org to see if it's a known application with workarounds etc
[11:32] <slippyr4> omegacenti: any luck?
[11:32] <romrom> AlexC_, slippyr4 : yes it does... the proof is i'm using konverstion livecd
[11:32] <xxenon> hi. In what does ubuntu do the binding between X events (ex. : XF86AudioMute) and the command started ?
[11:32] <AlexC_> romrom: but you wont be able to install a 32bit version of Ubuntu with a 64bit version !
[11:32] <xxenon> In what file , I meant
[11:32] <dirken> somebody who knows how to handle dual monitoring?
[11:32] <romrom> AlexC_: why ?
[11:33] <AlexC_> romrom: because the programs on the disk are complied for amd64...and not i386
[11:33] <TheLighty> can anyone recommand a cpanel like interface for Ubuntu on the server
[11:33] <romrom> AlexC_: well... i can acces to internet
[11:33] <Slart> dirken: not yet.. but I'm thinking of buying another monitor soon.. if you can wait a week or so ;)
[11:33] <AlexC_> romrom: that's not installing Ubuntu now, is it?
[11:34] <xai> I'm having a lot of problems with nut (network upstools) the driver for our belkin ups works ok, but udev needs to be re-started to make it work. Also the files in /etc/udev/rules.d for nut look very wrong:  it used 025_ for name.
[11:34] <Slart> TheLighty: I've used webmin in the past.. it seems to disliked by the community for some reason.. but I kind of liked it
[11:34] <omegacenti> slippyr4: I am now using my wireless internet connection with network manager :)
[11:34] <dirken> Slart: i can but i already have got i it working but my cursor is messed up and my programs are opening by default on that monitor and i don't linke that one
[11:34] <omegacenti> Thankyou jowi and slippyr4 :)
[11:34] <chade> Hmm is it possible to change the version of the Kernel I'm running?
[11:34] <TheLighty> does anyone here run Ubuntu for a server
[11:34] <poquedoraqu> No one has helped me more than people on his group, so now i come with hope in my heart to ask for help with my new homemade computer O.O *starry eyes* any people know hardware stuff?
[11:34] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to open a dir?
[11:34] <romrom> AlexC_: ... the worst is that installing works... but badly
[11:34] <chade> I think thats the issue I'm having with EciAdsl
[11:34] <slippyr4> omegacenti: no problem, pleased it's working for you. i like network-manager, it works well
[11:34] <TheLighty> don't like webmin
[11:34] <AlexC_> romrom: do you have a 64bit cpu?
[11:34] <slippyr4> thelighty: yes i do
[11:35] <TheLighty> can I pm you
[11:35] <romrom> AlexC_: no... a centrino !
[11:35] <omegacenti> know of any other useful wireless tools?
[11:35] <Jowi> omegacenti, worked after the reboot?
[11:35] <omegacenti> Jowi:  Yes.
[11:35] <AlexC_> romrom: then you can't install 64bit Ubuntu on a 32bit processor,
[11:35] <Slart> dirken: hmm.. sorry.. don't know anything about that yet.. but I'm sure there are others out there with the same problems
[11:35] <Jowi> omegacenti, network-manager-gnome is nice. no idea why it isn't installed by default.
[11:35] <techie_> !wine
[11:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:35] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:36] <woland_> omegacenti, you mean you need something other than iwconfig??
[11:36] <TheLighty> slippyr4 check pm here please
[11:36] <romrom> AlexC_: ok man... i know that... that's why my question is how to install 32bit ubuntu
[11:36] <poquedoraqu> whats it mean when you try to turn on a (new) computer, and the fans and lights run, but the drives dont open and the screen stays off?
[11:36] <slippyr4> jowi: i think it just doesn't work with some wireless nics
[11:36] <dirken> Slart: Thx anyway!
[11:36] <AlexC_> romrom: buy downloading the 32bit disk
[11:36] <cefx> What are all of the different entries in df for? I understand /, /var*, /proc/bus/usb, and /dev, but what's /dev/shm and what's lrm /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile ?
[11:36] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you haven't connected the monitor?
[11:36] <romrom> AlexC_: thx for your help anyway...
[11:36] <omegacenti> woland_: I guess I do not know the extent to which iwconfig works
[11:36] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to open /etc/apt ?
[11:36] <n-iCe> !es
[11:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:36] <poquedoraqu> Slart: : Its in there
[11:37] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: isn't that a directory? do you mean /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[11:37] <dyrne> MatrixMon: its a directoy so youd 'cd /etc/apt/'
[11:37] <woland_> omegacenti, it's an interface to your wireless adaptors. for anything other than WPA it's all you need.
[11:37] <AlexC_> MatrixMon: if so "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst"
[11:37] <TheLighty> this is hopeless
[11:37] <Slart> poquedoraqu: eh.. what else to look for.. broken graphics card?
[11:37] <xelados> xfmedia won't play mp3s. What package do I need to download?
[11:37] <woland_> omegacenti, wpa_supplicant is the other tool you may need
[11:37] <AlexC_> !mp3 | xelados
[11:37] <ubotu> xelados: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <Gesus> !ntfs-3g
[11:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:37] <xelados> Ah, thanks.
[11:37] <poquedoraqu> Slart: I dunno, I thiink its fine. I just got it. its a Radeon X700 512MB PCIe w/DVI/TV-OUT
[11:37] <omegacenti> I am using wpa as of right not
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: the cable to the monitor is broken.. or something else on the motherboard is broken..
[11:38] <omegacenti> I will download wpa-supplicant then
[11:38] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Could it be the processor badly installed?
[11:38] <woland_> omegacenti, wpa_supplicant/ifconfig is all you need
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: most computers will do something on screen when started.. try switching monitors, if you have another
[11:38] <Slart> poquedoraqu: yes.. that could do that
[11:38] <slippyr4> woland_ wpasupplicant seems to be out-the-box in edgy
[11:38] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Because i was really confused installing it.
[11:39] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Any way to check?
[11:39] <Slart> poquedoraqu: but then the computer usually beeps and makes all kinds of noises
[11:39] <woland_> slippyr4, sorry, i don't run ubuntu
[11:39] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Oh... that didnt happen
[11:39] <slippyr4> w00t?
[11:39] <Slart> poquedoraqu: hmm.. no easy ones.. I'd take it out.. read the manual.. check that all the little pins are ok.. apply thermal grease put it back and see if it works
[11:40] <paparapa> Hello
[11:40] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Do AMD 64s work with Radeon X700s okay?
[11:40] <paparapa> Can any give me a hand to find how install my printer? please is a lexmark1100
[11:40] <paparapa> !es
[11:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:40] <Slart> poquedoraqu: second option is..... ,I'm guessing you're a guy, find a friendly computer geek.. buy him pizza if he fixes your computer.. if female.. do same.. but you wont have to buy pizza ;)
[11:40] <Slart> poquedoraqu: I haven't heard of any such problems..
[11:41] <poquedoraqu> Slart: lol ;)
[11:41] <osotogari> i cant seem to change the permissions on my external hard drive, im using sudo chmod g+rwxs /media//EXHD/ is this correct?
[11:41] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Im a guy. Well, what about the fact that my board's an nforce?
[11:41] <woland_> osotogari, why the +s?
[11:41] <romrom> from what refere "dpkg --print-architecture", please ?
[11:41] <slippyr4> osotogari, and why the extra / ?
[11:41] <Slart> poquedoraqu: I think it would still start... you'd get some kind of error message.. or beeps
[11:42] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you could check the memory too.. I don't think the computer will boot without memory
[11:42] <puff> Evening. Just got a new motherboard in the mail and surprise, surprise, it requires the 2.6.18 kernel in order to use the on-board RAID.  How much pain am I im for?
[11:42] <metalhedd> how can I stop ubuntu from loading my wireless module?
[11:42] <poquedoraqu> Slart: Well i put memory in... well thanks
[11:42] <AuraithX_> Hey, quick question.
[11:42] <UUbun2> HymnToLife just wanted you to know i ended up needinf ncurses
[11:43] <osotogari> @woland: i took that from a tutorial
[11:43] <puff> The last time I mucked about with kernels, it turned out to be quite easy;  there was apt support for the kernels I needed, I just needed to issue some apt-commands and then to re-do some other apt installs that depended on the particular kernel.  Is it going to be the same for 2.6.18?
[11:43] <Slart> poquedoraqu: you're welcome.. good luck
[11:43] <Slart> !ask AuraithX_
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask auraithx_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <Slart> !ask | AuraithX_
[11:43] <ubotu> AuraithX_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:43] <Slart> oops
[11:43] <osotogari> @slippy: thats what autocomplete calls it
[11:43] <AuraithX_> woo
[11:43] <AuraithX_> too many people
[11:43] <AuraithX_> couldn't type
[11:44] <omegacenti> wine will allow me to use Diablo II eh?
[11:44] <AuraithX_> okay im making the thumbdrive bootable, using syslinux.. followed the tutorial and typed
[11:44] <woland_> osotogari, what permissions do you want to set?
[11:44] <vdo1138> irc looks so strange with kopete..
[11:44] <AuraithX_> syslinux -f G
[11:44] <Slart> omegacenti: I think diablo is on the platinum list.. check appdb.wine.org
[11:44] <osotogari> i want to set share an external drive with Samba to two xp machines.
[11:44] <AuraithX_> and I get the error "Usage: syslinux.exe [-sfma]  <drive>: [bootsexfile] "
[11:45] <omegacenti> Slart: Thankyou!
[11:45] <AuraithX_> *bootsecfile
[11:45] <chade> Sorry newbish question here, what do I type to edit xorg.conf in the terminal?
[11:45] <xelados> :o
[11:45] <omegacenti> SWEET
[11:46] <xelados> chade: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf' or similar
[11:46] <woland_> osotogari, chmod 0666 /media/EXHD/
[11:46] <omegacenti> Slart: It is appdb.winehq.org though. just for reference. :) thankyou very much
[11:46] <Slart> AuraithX_: ehh.. I have no idea.. never used syslinux... perhaps someone else knows better
[11:46] <osotogari> @woland: thanks, ill try that and report back :)
[11:46] <vdo1138> chade:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <Slart> omegacenti: hehe.. fingers don't obey me after midnight =)
[11:46] <DPic> can ubuntu safely read off of an ntfs drive?
[11:46] <chade> Hmm i opened xorg.conf using that command line and no file
[11:46] <xelados> !ntfs-3g
[11:46] <woland_> osotogari, might wanna do that recursively
[11:46] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:46] <AuraithX_> :(...anyone
[11:46] <AlexC_> chade: it's X11 not x11
[11:47] <AlexC_> chade: Linux is a case senestive OS, /etc/X11 is not the same as /etc/x11
[11:47] <Slart> DPic: ntfs can be read safely.. I think write support is pretty good nowdays.. but I'm not sure
[11:47] <yomm> When I do a "sudo mount -a" my samba share mounts fine ; so I'm assuming fstab is ok ,yet the samba share doesn't mount after boot ..Any Ideas ?
[11:47] <DPic> can ubuntu read ntfs safely without using anything like ntfs-3g?
[11:47] <chade> Ahhh thank you
[11:47] <osotogari> @ woland: that didnt change the permissions when i did a ls -l, to do it recursively i add a -r right?
[11:47] <metalhedd> DPic: Reading is safe
[11:47] <xelados> yomm: Have you tried manually adding the entry to fstab?
[11:47] <DPic> cool thanks
[11:47] <Slart> DPic: yes.. there's the "normal" ntfs module.. that works for reading
[11:48] <woland_> yomm, is noauto set in the fstab?
[11:48] <yomm> xelados : that's what I did !
[11:48] <xelados> osotogari: Use the "-R" trigger when using chmod/chown/chgrp to make it recursive.
[11:48] <yomm> xelados : no !
[11:48] <xelados> yomm: Weird. o_O
[11:48] <osotogari> thanks xelados
[11:48] <yomm> woland : no
[11:48] <omegacenti> Well, I might just convert totally over to Ubuntu if wireless-N draft ever becomes available.
[11:49] <yomm> xelados : that second "no" was for woland :)
[11:49] <xelados> I figured :p
[11:49] <chade> AlexC_: just did 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' & 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' exactly like that and both opened empty files, any ideas?
[11:50] <woland_> yomm, paste the fstab entry
[11:50] <AuraithX_> ah, figured it out! the tutorial really should be amended :)
[11:50] <omegacenti> a frontend to iwconfig would be sweet to see though.
[11:50] <aib> i just opened up a zip file and inside I found an 'executable.elf'
[11:50] <AlexC_> chade: that's weird...do you have a GUI at the moment?
[11:50] <Gesus> hello i'm a noob.  how do i access partitions on my hdd?  it says it's in /dev/hda3 but when i try to access that through the window browser it says it can't open it. ??
[11:50] <yomm> woland ; noauto should be off to mount at boot right ? ok i'll paste .. a sec :)
[11:50] <aib> what on earth do I do with it?
[11:50] <omegacenti> With graphs on power/noise ratios. Any thing that is like that in ubuntu?
[11:50] <AuraithX_> away to boot, bbs
[11:50] <Slart> Gesus: try /mnt/hda3 or /media/hda3 instead
[11:50] <metalhedd> aib: run it! ./executible.elf
[11:50] <woland_> omegacenti, frontends are slow and needless
[11:50] <ardchoille> chade: There shouldn't be a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  (notice the "'"
[11:50] <dyrne> Gesus: this is ntfs?
[11:50] <omegacenti> woland_: I disagree, frontends have their uses.
[11:50] <yomm> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <chade> AlexC_:Yeah i'm in the GUI atm
[11:51] <woland_> omegacenti, for people who wont RTFM?
[11:51] <AlexC_> chade: in terminal, do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:51] <aib> i tried that. it says "-bash: ./executable.elf: cannot execute binary file"
[11:51] <chade> AlexC_: Having some problems with my GUI too, it freezes occasionally, mouse clicking won't work
[11:51] <Hattori> i used gparted to clone and hdd to get used with same system. from 12gb hdd to 40gb hdd. i cloned it and created grub back. all seems fine except the fact that after boot, everyting i do, each command, like starting tomcat or open terminal, takes ages and hdd keeps loading to infinite... any guess?
[11:51] <omegacenti> woland_:  no, for people who like grpahical representations of data. i.e. Statistics.
[11:51] <Slart> Gesus: /dev/hda3 is the device (or device file I think), /mnt/hda3 is the mount point. The difference is.. well.. big
[11:51] <AlexC_> chade: yeah that's probably cos you have no xorg.conf - run that command to reconfigure xorg
[11:51] <lordmaynoth_> !pastebin
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[11:51] <aib> oh nevermind. `file executable.elf told me that its a './executable.elf: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped'
[11:51] <chade> AlexC_: Onlyway to get the mouse working again is to ctl+alt+left/right or alt-tab a few times
[11:52] <AlexC_> weird,
[11:52] <chade> Ahhh, thank you AlexC
[11:52] <chade> Will run it now
[11:52] <yomm> woland : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9002/
[11:52] <AlexC_> chade: you're welcome, hope it fixes everything
[11:52] <omegacenti> woland_: do you disagree that graphs have their uses?
[11:52] <xelados> I have a bunch of packages that apt-get says I can autoremove. Does this mean they will actually get removed, or just the package files?
[11:52] <xelados> They're mostly relevant to XFCE, which I'm using now.
[11:52] <woland_> omegacenti, there are a finite number of options you can assign to a wireless interface, to make a gui of it is patronising.
[11:53] <Slart> omegacenti: we're using linux.. we all write documents using a car battery and a screwdriver directly on the motherboard... gui's are evil ;)
[11:53] <Slart> xelados: it just removes the install packages from the local cache.. it's safe
[11:53] <omegacenti> woland_: What if you are warchalking a neighborhood and would like to put a map and graphical intensity color scheme overlay on it. What would you do?
[11:53] <xelados> Slart: Alright, thanks.
[11:53] <dyrne> for a second there i thought i was in #slackware :)
[11:54] <omegacenti> Slart: I understand the mentality all too well.
[11:54] <chade> ok running xserver-xorg now
[11:54] <omegacenti> <-- EE
[11:54] <chade> I take it I just configure everything in there?
[11:54] <woland_> omegacenti, we're talking about configuring a wireless interface, something a gui has no purpose for.
[11:54] <chade> Running an ATI Radeon x1400 so I select ati as the graphics driver?
[11:55] <xelados> whoa, a bunch of my GUI changed.
[11:55] <omegacenti> woland_: I am not talking about configuration, I am talking about graphical intensities of wireless signals. Does anything like that exist for the world of linux?
[11:55] <Kronuz> hey, how do you unload a loaded kernel module?
[11:55] <woland_> omegacenti, thats' not what iwconfig is fore
[11:55] <woland_> s/e$//
[11:56] <omegacenti> woland_: but it does give signal and noise strengths :) I would just like that to be made graphical.. thats all
[11:56] <dyrne> oni-dracula: theres a cli app but im not sure of name. havent used it in a while. its in repos
[11:56] <Slart> woland_: I would have to say that having a list of available networks, a time graph of network strength etc is kind of nice... at least for the initial configuration.. but opinions are like.... well.. no.. family friendly..*grmpf*
[11:56] <woland_> omegacenti, use kismet
[11:56] <Kronuz> 'cause I want to manually update the fuse module and after compilation, I'll need to unload and reload the kernel module
[11:56] <dyrne> omegacenti: ^
[11:56] <kbd> Kronuz: rmmod
[11:56] <omegacenti> one sec.
[11:56] <lordmaynoth_> I was wondering if anyone knew which config file kept track of your default browser (when I click in xchat it opens with terminal)
[11:56] <woland_> Slart, iwlist is not enough?
[11:57] <AlexC_> lordmaynoth_: system->prefs->Prefered applications
[11:57] <Slart> woland_: I don't use my wireless in linux.. it was just a general opinion on gui's
[11:57] <hilldu_> Hi, how can i make beryl stop detecting xserver as AIGLX and detect xgl?
[11:57] <Bartek> Greetings to everyone
[11:57] <AlexC_> hi
[11:57] <lordmaynoth_> AlexC_: Thanks!
[11:57] <linuxor> Please,, Is it possible to use kopete to talk???
[11:57] <omegacenti> downloading
[11:57] <AlexC_> linuxor: of course ......
[11:57] <omegacenti> very easy to install things as long as its in the package manager :)
[11:58] <yomm> woland : did u catch the paste ?
[11:58] <woland_> gui's have a purpose, but to make a gui for everything is not just a complete waste of time but seriously patronising
[11:58] <linuxor> AlexC : I mean by microphone
[11:58] <kbd> If you are looking for an application to function like the wifi list in XP, gtkwifi is decent
[11:58] <woland_> why not create a gui for true(1)
[11:58] <bigjohnto> i execute a file and i get mpermission denied --> its  a script with mode of 777 whats the problem?
[11:58] <yomm> illdu : try disabling aiglx in xorg.conf
[11:58] <AlexC_> linuxor: oh right sorry, erm I think it is but I've never done it (I use gaim on Gnome), why not pop into #kopete or #kde
[11:59] <bigjohnto> works on all machines except my desktop
[11:59] <osotogari> does this fstab entry look ok for mounting an external hard drive read/write for everyone? /dev/sdb1	/media/EXHD	vfat	auto, user, rw	0	0
[11:59] <AlexC_> s/#kde/#kubuntu
[11:59] <omegacenti> woland_: I dont know, I just enjoy graphical interfaces.
[11:59] <hilldu_> yomm: how would i do that?
[11:59] <kbd> woland_: Click "Yes" or "No" to send this message to the IRC server irc.freenode.net in the channel #ubuntu.
[11:59] <kbd> hehehe
[11:59] <woland_> omegacenti, you should get out more
[11:59] <Slart> woland_: I don't think that having a gui is bad.. bad is _only_ having a gui.. I hate it when I can't run some software using only a ssh command line.. or telnet
[11:59] <luiX_> nas
[11:59] <Slart> woland_: after all.. with both everyone is happy..
[12:00] <luiX_> hi
[12:00] <omegacenti> woland_: hahaha, maybe :)
[12:00] <yomm> !xgl | hilldu
[12:00] <linuxor> AlexC_ : ok thx I'll do it
[12:00] <ubotu> hilldu: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:00] <Bartek> Would anyboy be able to give some help or guidance with Bittorent, please???
[12:00] <hilldu_> thanks
[12:00] <dyrne> Bartek: whats the question im sure someone knows
[12:00] <kbd> omegacenti: if you mother loved you, she would have installed ratpoison and taught you to write ncurses applications and let you play nethack as a child
[12:00] <Slart> Bartek: perhaps.. give us a try
[12:00] <mrpoundsign> XGL crashes a lot, for me.  :)