[02:55] <tw|sT3d> how did u install ur modem?
[02:55] <iter> Suspekt: are sda1 and sdb1 the same size?
[02:55] <cryptonic> airlean : Hurray for Ireland
[02:55] <javaJake> ailean, Oh, heheh, yea, well....
[02:56] <Suspekt> iter, yes
[02:56] <ailean> tw|sT3d, i have a cable modem. didn't need to install ethernet access
[02:56] <Terminus> maria: aptitude install smbfs
[02:56] <javaJake> Is anyone here experienced with Xorg to help me?
[02:56] <tw|sT3d> =((
[02:56] <apokryphos> !anyone
[02:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:56] <javaJake> Xorg.0.log reports that it has enabled Direct Rendering, but glxinfo says something different. Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/820115 Xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/820120 Syslog: http://pastebin.com/820118
[02:56] <cryptonic> ailean : Hurray for Ireland
[02:56] <Suspekt> iter, its possible this is an issue with my 'hardware' raid provided by the promise controler
[02:56] <Jordan_U> cryptonic: OK, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and choose the nvidea driver when prompted.
[02:56] <ailean> cryptonic, i'm scottish :)
[02:57] <iter> Suspekt: might be but I doubt it
[02:57] <apokryphos> javaJake:         Option          "RenderAccel" "false" #More stable this way... I think
[02:57] <apokryphos> javaJake: and that comment is wrong
[02:57] <javaJake> apokryphos, Yuck yuck, doy. :D
[02:57] <Suspekt> iter, ok... the goal is to get this raid working with both sides...  my linux box and my DirectX9 box
[02:57] <javaJake> apokryphos, I'll give it the good ol' shot.
[02:58] <eobanb> is there a way to use the rss-glx screensavers (flurry, lattice, etc.) with xscreensaver instead of just gnome-screensaver?
[02:58] <apokryphos> javaJake: so s/false/true/
[02:58] <iter> Suspekt: perhaps this link might help
[02:58] <eobanb> i switched to xscreensaver and now i can't see the rss-glx screensavers
[02:58] <freeze> hey
[02:58] <javaJake> apokryphos, Yep
[02:58] <iter> Suspekt: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[02:58] <xeem> Anyone willing to have a short private chat with me about my "bootlevel" problem? In here it is quite messy.
[02:58] <Suspekt> iter, is it because i am attempting to use vfat
[02:58] <freeze> does your system have to be up to date when using gksudo "update-manager -c"
[02:58] <freeze> ?
[02:58] <skelter> is there any news on the eclipse problem with 64bit edgy systems?
[02:58] <cryptonic> Jordan_U how do i use the latest drivers, is it nvidia or nv drivers i choose?
[02:59] <apokryphos> javaJake: though actually I've never used ATI, so I'm not sure if hardware acceleration is enabled in the same way
[02:59] <ailean> okay, now i have a question. i set up my GRUB with a selection for Windows, which is installed on my 2nd (slave) hard disc.  It works. No problem there.  But whenever I load up Windows from GRUB, the second (slave) hard disc claims the boot again and just launches windows instead of going to GRUB. what can i do?
[02:59] <iter> Suspekt: don't know
[02:59] <javaJake> apokryphos, well, worth a shot
[02:59] <freeze> bc im on 6.06 and i used that command and i dont se  " New distribution release '6.10' is available, UPGRADE"
[02:59] <apokryphos> certainly
[02:59] <iter> Suspekt: bbialb
[02:59] <Suspekt> iter, bbialb?
[02:59] <javaJake> apokryphos, BRB... going to try that
[03:00] <xeem> Q: I have a problem stopping X. I use "telinit 3" and kill manager, but asap I log in to console, the x server starts itself back. How can I prevent it from stopping and stay in shell. (I can't find inittab and those rcN files in /etc/event.d don't help). Thank you
[03:00] <Flannel> freeze: is all of your stuff up to date currently?
[03:00] <chewy> when Xorg bitches about fonts what do i need to do to fix it
[03:00] <chewy> when it won't start cause of it
[03:00] <boggle> cryptonic: I think this is covered in help.ubuntu.com, how to use the nvidia and ati drivers
[03:00] <Jordan_U> cryptonic: nvidea.
[03:00] <freeze> Flannel no
[03:00] <freeze> says 188 updates
[03:01] <powercat> I got beryl installed, but for some reason it's not showing any of the "window decorator" I'm using nvidia
[03:01] <freeze> i just installed 6.06 without knowing about 6.10
[03:01] <Ashley`> On two of my Ubuntu Edgy upgrades, clicking a location from the Places menu sometimes spawns a random number of new instances of the nautilus file browser. Is anyone else having this problem?
[03:01] <chewy> i cant start Xgl cause it crys about fonts
[03:01] <chewy> powercat: i'm having trouble with Xgl
[03:01] <ailean> powercat, did you type "beryl-manager" in a terminal?
[03:01] <Flannel> freeze: 6.06? or 6.06.1?  you'll want to be up-to-date before upgrading, or at least, have update-manager up to date
[03:01] <chewy> powercat: its crying about fonts
[03:01] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell chewy about xgl
[03:01] <Jordan_U> freeze: then it will take less downloading / time to download the Edgy CD.
[03:01] <powercat> ailean: It's already opened. When I choose beryl as my manager, all windows lose their borders and the X at the corner. It's just a square.
[03:01] <freeze> flannel how do i check
[03:02] <freeze> edgy cd kept freezing
[03:02] <powercat> chewy: I'm as much a noob as you are. I wouldn't know
[03:02] <freeze> so i made a dapper cd
[03:02] <ailean> powercat, sounds like it's not installed properly. there is a channel set up for these problems at #ubuntu-xgl
[03:02] <Flannel> freeze: check what?  6.06 or 6.06.1?  there's no difference, you'd have to check which ISO you downloaded.  If you just got it, it's most likely 6.06.1, but anyway, that's far less important.  Update update-manager (I believe the upgrade howto mentions that) then try again
[03:03] <B_166-ER-X> what would be a goog Benchmark program for the CPU , on ubuntu ?
[03:03] <powercat> Thanks ailean
[03:03] <ailean> powercat, np
[03:03] <inglor> you guys still here? I'm getting an odd error, can't ping google
[03:03] <freeze> flannel i dont see anything about updating update-manager
[03:04] <calamari> hi
[03:04] <Jordan_U> inglor: Are you connected with ethernet or wireless?
[03:04] <LjL> inglor: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:04] <inglor> Jordan_U, ethernet
[03:05] <inglor> LjL, yeah, I can
[03:05] <Flannel> freeze: you're right.  It's not in there.  Anyway, you'll want to update update-manager then try again
[03:05] <Hyperion2010> if my livecd kernel panics on me, is there anything I can do to get around it?
[03:05] <LjL> inglor: then i guess your DNS settings are wrong... can you ping other sites, or reach them in the browser?
[03:05] <Languid> hi im trying to install edgy on my desktop computer which has two HDs set up as RAID0.  the edgy installer sees them as two 160GB drives when it should be one.  is there anyway i can get ubuntu to recognize them as a RAID drives?
[03:05] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Hyperion2010 about install
[03:05] <freeze> flannel, thanks got it :)
[03:05] <freeze> i see 6.10 upgrade available now
[03:05] <freeze> teehehe
[03:05] <freeze> tyvm
[03:05] <Suspekt> iter, any suggestions?
[03:05] <calamari> my smokey blue icon theme seems to be gone now that I upgraded to edgy.  I tracked it down to the package gnome-themes.  The description still mentions the theme, but I guess it was forgotten.  Any ideas how to get it back?
[03:06] <javaJake> apokryphos, That didn't work
[03:06] <inglor> LjL, nope, it worked fine a minute ago
[03:06] <freeze> re instasll it
[03:06] <tom_> china
[03:06] <Jordan_U> Hyperion2010: Yes, you can change the kernel parameters at boot, try for instastance adding: noapci
[03:06] <LjL> inglor, check the nameserver entry (if any) in /etc/resolv.conf and make sure it's the actual DNS server
[03:06] <tom_> new york
[03:06] <Hyperion2010> ok, I'll look into it, thanks
[03:06] <tom_> distance
[03:06] <freeze> hey how do i change the word after @ sign in terminal
[03:06] <apokryphos> javaJake: I just suggest checking google if you already checked in the ubuntu wiki guide for ati trivers
[03:06] <empty_mind> can i  install a package from edgy into a drapper box ?
[03:07] <Hyperion2010> btw, is there anyway to just dump an install on a partition, and then compile a kernel from another linux environment?
[03:07] <LjL> empty_mind: no
[03:07] <javaJake> apokryphos, But what do I google? The logs all have sucess messages. Nothing error-ish.
[03:07] <LjL> empty_mind: you can possibly get the source package and compile it
[03:07] <inglor> LjL, got two entries,
[03:07] <inglor> not sure if they're right or not
[03:07] <freeze> empty...you could but it might depend on another app which might depend on another and it will just all need to be upgraded
[03:07] <FidO-DidO> xchat update the channel list when I enter in a server, what I can do to stop it????
[03:07] <apokryphos> javaJake: well you're not going to get an error if you haven't declared the option properly. Google something like direct rendering ati linux
[03:07] <LjL> inglor: what are they
[03:07] <Languid> hi im trying to install edgy on my desktop computer which has two HDs set up as RAID0.  the edgy installer sees them as two 160GB drives when it should be one.  is there anyway i can get ubuntu to recognize them as a RAID drives?  anyone?
[03:07] <Jordan_U> Hyperion2010: Do you have another Linux machine?
[03:08] <pudland> whats the fglrx command to test the driver?
[03:08] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Languid about raid
[03:08] <javaJake> apokryphos, Except it worked BEFORE I compiled in the latest git/cvs drm, Mesa, and xf86-driver-ati
[03:08] <Hyperion2010> I'm running on a gentoo install right now
[03:08] <eobanb> pudland, you mean glxinfo?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Hyperion2010: If so, you can create your own custom LiveCD with a custom kernel.
[03:08] <pudland> that works
[03:08] <inglor> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:08] <inglor> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:08] <FidO-DidO> pudland: fglrxgears or something like that
[03:08] <Flannel> !tell Hyperion2010 about install
[03:08] <inglor> I'm connected through ehternet to a modem
[03:08] <inglor> that's connected through cable to the www
[03:09] <Flannel> Hyperion2010: believe theres a howto on that page for just what you're doing
[03:09] <Hyperion2010> ok, great, thanks
[03:09] <FidO-DidO> xchat update the channel list when I enter in a server, what I can do to stop it????
[03:09] <pudland> fido-dido: its something close, cant remember though
[03:09] <javaJake> apokryphos, Except the logs say "Direct Rendering enabled"!
[03:09] <apokryphos> javaJake: sounds like a bug in those latest things then
[03:09] <LjL> inglor: <IP_ADDRESS> is possibly the address of your modem
[03:10] <FidO-DidO> pudland: use the tab completion
[03:10] <inglor> that would be my guess, so basically there is nothing I can do?
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Hyperion2010: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues ( comment stolen from Ubotu )
[03:10] <pudland> fido-dido: ?????
[03:10] <FidO-DidO> fgl_glxgears
[03:10] <pudland> fido-dido: ahhhhh
[03:10] <LjL> inglor: fix your modem's built-in DNS proxy, if it's broken, or set your DNS manually to something else - like the DNS servers from your ISP (which you should find somewhere in your ISP's site)
[03:10] <javaJake> apokryphos, Maybe... but I'd rather narrow it down first.
[03:11] <LjL> inglor: <IP_ADDRESS> is a DNS server that should work, though very slowly
[03:11] <pudland> fido-dido: perfect!!! thanks
[03:11] <Jordan_U> pudland: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:11] <inglor> lemme see if the welcome cable page works, it's supposed to work even if I'm not connected
[03:11] <Suspekt> do you HAVE to use the 'raid-autodetect' filesystem for RAID to work in linux??
[03:11] <Jordan_U> pudland: If it says "direct rendering = yes" then they are installed correctly.
[03:11] <calamari> ahh I see.. they removed it.. stupid gnome retards
[03:11] <M0E-lnx> does ubuntu install debian packages too?
[03:11] <pudland> fgl gives 350fps w/ pci 9200
[03:12] <inglor> the odd thing is that it worked just fine until about a minute ago
[03:12] <apokryphos> M0E-lnx: it uses .debs, but installing debian packages on ubuntu can cause real problems
[03:12] <M0E-lnx> aahh.
[03:12] <M0E-lnx> anyone know where I could find an ubuntu package for rp-pppoe
[03:12] <M0E-lnx> I installed it, but can't get online to do anything
[03:12] <pudland> jordan_u: yes for direct.. thnks
[03:12] <M0E-lnx> without rp-pppoe
[03:13] <variant> !pppoe
[03:13] <charizardrulz> how do i shot web
[03:13] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:13] <inglor> LjL, not working... so what do I do?
[03:13] <apokryphos> charizardrulz: what?
[03:13] <variant> !pppoe | M0E-lnx
[03:13] <ubotu> M0E-lnx: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[03:13] <M0E-lnx> thanks ubotu
[03:14] <variant> M0E-lnx: ubotu is a bot
[03:14] <LjL> inglor: what is not working, the welcome page? anyway try putting <IP_ADDRESS> as your first nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf and see
[03:14] <M0E-lnx> in that case thanks variant
[03:14] <inglor> ok, I'll try
[03:14] <variant> M0E-lnx: yw :)
[03:15] <powercat> How do I change my screen depth from 32 to 24 in xorg.conf?
[03:15] <inglor> LjL, done, now do I try to ping?
[03:15] <eobanb> powercat, 32 is the same as 24.  32 is just 24 with 8 bits of alpha channel
[03:16] <inglor> LjL, it works, hmmm
[03:16] <inglor> I guess I'll call my ISP later
[03:16] <boggle> powercat: Depth and DefaultDepth
[03:17] <powercat> eobanb: But when I try to use beryl, I get this error in the console: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[03:17] <powercat> eobanb: And I don't see any borders to my windows
[03:18] <inglor> powercat, please move this talk to #beryl
[03:19] <powercat> inglor: No.  I've futzed with the BIOS a bunch. Sometimes I boot and it sees the Ethernet, sometimes it doesn't. It never sees the WiFi
[03:22] <mnepton> inglor: if you have like 17,000 beers, the memory of powercat may be rm'ed *shrug*
[03:22] <zliners> i inted  to learn with experimentation
[03:22] <doctorow> inglor Thanks
[03:22] <inglor> zliners, google a bash guide, it's pretty simple
[03:23] <Jordan_U> zliners: cd into the directory the source files are in, then run: javac filename
[03:23] <zliners> i thought man java would tell me more but it dous not contain compile
[03:23] <variant> zliners: I am thinking of writing an interactive tutorial :)
[03:23] <inglor> zliners, what do you wish to accomplish?
[03:23] <zliners> Jordan thnx
[03:23] <zliners> simple
[03:23] <zliners> learn bit linux
[03:23] <zliners> :D
[03:23] <doctorow> mnepton Yup
[03:23] <inglor> oh right, javac is the java compiler :)
[03:23] <Droit> Bonsoir
[03:23] <variant> zliners: man javac
[03:24] <doctorow> mnepton Yup\
[03:24] <zliners> maybe i would change to linux in a few months :D
[03:24] <variant> zliners: you will need a jdk installed
[03:24] <Jordan_U> zliners: man javac, a good command to remember is "apropos" it will give you the names of apps having to do with a given word :)
[03:24] <youser> guys how do i navigate in terminal to folders with spaces inthe names/
[03:24] <youser> ?
[03:24] <variant> zliners: not a jvm
[03:24] <inglor> zliners, why wait :)?
[03:24] <mnepton> doctorow: are you actually in CA for Web2.0?
[03:24] <inglor> youser, backslash
[03:24] <doctorow> mnepton Hi. Sorry -- I'm having a really shitty crisis right now
[03:24] <doctorow> mnepton Nope -- I live in LA
[03:24] <youser> i put backslask in place of spaces?
[03:24] <variant> zliners: apropos or man -k does the same thing
[03:24] <Jordan_U> youser: folder name = folder\ name
[03:24] <inglor> youser, for example "my documents" would become "my \documents"...
[03:25] <youser> thNKS MAN
[03:25] <gorilla> youser: no no.. like so-> cd sub\ directory
[03:25] <inglor> oops, my\
[03:25] <mnepton> doctorow: i know, i was hoping you were in the Bayarrhea. you could come to the UDS hotel and we could all help you.
[03:25] <mnepton> doctorow: are you using Edgy with a MadWiFi supported card?
[03:25] <zliners> :d
[03:25] <doctorow> mnepton Thanks for the thought
[03:25] <Flannel> youser: use tab completion, it makes everything easier ;)
[03:25] <zliners> why i wait simple i am uber nppb @ linux :D
[03:25] <youser> i tried it wouldnt work
[03:25] <youser> i love tab completion
[03:25] <doctorow> mnepton I'm using the WiFi that came stock with the ThinkPad -- dunno whether it's MadWiFi
[03:26] <Flannel> youser: remember it's case sensitive, but tab completion works, and will work on inserting slashes for spaces too
[03:26] <inglor> zliners, there isn't really that much to know about it
[03:26] <mnepton> doctorow: probably the Intel 3945abg
[03:26] <zliners> :D
[03:26] <zliners> Jordan_U javac filename => dous thad also work fopr a dir ?
[03:26] <inglor> zliners, unless you LIKE to mess with it, which is half the fun
[03:27] <mnepton> doctorow: fire a phone number at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and i'll call you from the Googleplex and see if i can't help you get it sorted.
[03:27] <zliners> i am messing with it ;)
[03:27] <Droit> Can someone here help me? I just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and i can't find my files anymore
[03:27] <Jordan_U> youser: folder name = folder\ name = "folder name" ( you can use quotes intead of escaping each space )
[03:27] <jws> I have a puzzling installation problem. Once the X portion fires up, I see the screen resolution change, but the remains black. The keyboard goes dead- even capslock and numlock are unresponsive. Both mouse and keyboard are usb. Ideas?
[03:27] <inglor> Droit, which files?
[03:27] <doctorow> mnepton Thanks! Mail sent
[03:27] <pcgigabyte> I have lost the top panel in ubuntu. How can I reset the top panel and bottom panel back to default?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> zliners: To compile everything in a given directory, cd into the directory and run: javac *.java
[03:28] <Flannel> pcgigabyte: right click near the top, "add panel" then on the panel right click, "add to panel", etc
[03:28] <Jordan_U> pcgigabyte: killall gnome-panel
[03:29] <pcgigabyte> jordan if I type that will it reset them all to default?
[03:29] <Droit> inglor: All my files on my other hard drives. I'm back to using win XP because i can't find nothing on Ubuntu, it's like my hard drives don't exist anymore
[03:29] <Jordan_U> pcgigabyte: No, I thought you meant that it just didn't show up, not that you deleted it, sorry :(
[03:29] <inglor> Droit, what fileformat is your other hard drive using?
[03:29] <pcgigabyte> Lol I deleted it
[03:29] <pcgigabyte> is there a way to reset them back to default?
[03:30] <Flannel> pcgigabyte: right click near the top, "add panel" then on the panel right click, "add to panel", then re-add all the stuff
[03:30] <youser> damnit im trying to install propellerheads reason on linux
[03:30] <youser> not easy
[03:30] <zliners> Jordan_U witch compiler do u suggest ?
[03:30] <pcgigabyte> flannel I just to reset them. Not add all stuff again. Is there a way to reset all of it?
[03:30] <Droit> inglor: NTFS
[03:30] <zliners> cause i cant fint javac in my apt
[03:31] <ailean> youser, under wine?
[03:31] <zliners> *find
[03:31] <Suspekt> iter, any suggestions?
[03:31] <youser> yep
[03:31] <Flannel> pcgigabyte: no.  Just re-add the stuff, its not too bad
[03:31] <youser> after first cd it said installed, then it said cant run cuz gui had problems
[03:31] <inglor> Droit, NTFS is very problematic with linux but it tends to work, reading the files should work but writing and modifying them tends to be problematic, I suggest using FAT32 to share data between windows and linux
[03:32] <Jordan_U> zliners: I used plain old javac when I was taking java classes, but I prefer python now and I havn't really tried any other java compilers.
[03:32] <ailean> youser, the reason gui is very advanced
[03:32] <youser> i know
[03:32] <Droit> inglor: Ok, sure, but i have a 120 gig hard drive formatted in NTFS and i can't re-format it without loosing all my files.
[03:32] <ailean> youser, it has bouncy cables and twisting windows...
[03:32] <youser> but i had saw stories on ubuntuforums of it working
[03:33] <tich_> i installed flash9 beta and it isn't working, what steps should i take to fix it?
[03:33] <ailean> youser, cool
[03:33] <Droit> inglor: I can't read them if i can't even find them
[03:33] <worstenboy> hi zliners ;)
[03:33] <zliners> hi wosr :d
[03:33] <youser> i used to use reason on windows
[03:33] <inglor> Droit, can't you resize it?
[03:33] <Jordan_U> zliners: If you are new to programming I highly reccommend python though :)
[03:33] <youser> is possibly my graphics card not good enough to run on ubuntu?
[03:33] <_`casey> NTFS-3G
[03:33] <_`casey> Works like a charm for me.
[03:33] <ailean> youser, what is your card?
[03:33] <inglor> youser, doubtly, my 915 built in intel can run ubuntu smoothly with AIGLX and BERYL
[03:33] <youser> no video card
[03:33] <youser> i have built in 4mb graphics
[03:34] <youser> lol
[03:34] <youser> on my old emachines from 2001
[03:34] <ailean> youser, i would say, NO chance
[03:34] <Languid> LjL, hi, i read that page about raid and that doesnt really help me.  im using a hardware sata raid controller (a via vt6420), and already have xp installed on it.  when i boot into the livecd, however, ubuntu recognizes it as two partitions, two separate hard drives.  is there no way for it to recognize it as a raid properly?
[03:34] <youser> cant run it?
[03:34] <ailean> youser, i would doubt it
[03:34] <Jordan_U> youser: You can it without X.
[03:34] <inglor> youser, it can run ubuntu, but I doubt it can run x
[03:34] <youser> errori got is "failed to open gui supportlibrary"
[03:34] <youser> what is x?
[03:35] <Droit> inglor: If you are talking about re-partitionning, i don't know but i'd rather not take the chance of loosing everything.
[03:35] <ailean> youser, did you check the wineHQ?
[03:35] <youser> nope
[03:35] <inglor> youser, x is the graphical bit
[03:35] <nofxx> i saw X with kde on my k6-500 4mb shared memory.... it can
[03:35] <youser> ahh wine graphics?
[03:35] <Droit> inglor: Isn't Ubuntu supposed to be able to "see" the files?
[03:36] <Flannel> Droit: it can, assuming you've mounted the drives
[03:36] <Flannel> !ntfs | Droit
[03:36] <ubotu> Droit: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:36] <Languid> im using a hardware sata raid controller (a via vt6420), and already have xp installed on it.  when i boot into the livecd, however, ubuntu recognizes it as two partitions, two separate hard drives.  is there no way for it to recognize it as a raid properly?
[03:36] <LjL> Languid: i don't know honestly
[03:36] <nofxx> video memory isnt  problem on a 2d situation...
[03:36] <iter> Languid: I saw someone else with the same problem
[03:36] <ailean> youser, it's not listed on www.winehq.com
[03:36] <Languid> iter, any idea what he did?
[03:36] <iter> Languid: we weren't able to solve it
[03:36] <youser> reason 3.0 is a 3d program
[03:37] <youser> i think
[03:37] <inglor> Droit, did you try looking for them in /dev ?
[03:37] <iter> Languid: he ended upusing sw raid via mdadm
[03:37] <Languid> iter, hmm, okay.
[03:37] <nofxx> youser  you asked if you can ran ubuntu with that card
[03:37] <iter> Languid: my guess is that "hardware raid" is acutally fakeraid
[03:37] <iter> Languid: and so you gotta use sw raid in linux
[03:37] <Mantice> Any one know why my Beryl is whiteing out ?
[03:37] <nofxx> if you are going to play a game or develop a game for sure you should know what you need for it
[03:38] <youser> no
[03:38] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Mantice about beryl
[03:38] <youser> i know i can run ubuntu with that card
[03:38] <iter> Mantice: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:38] <youser> since i urrently am
[03:38] <Droit> Flannel: Nope, what's that about mounting drives? they're plugged into the IDE.
[03:38] <Mantice> !beryl
[03:38] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[03:38] <youser> :)
[03:38] <Jordan_U> youser: I would try installing from the alternate install cd without any of the GUI options , then install fluxbox.
[03:38] <youser> alternate install cd?
[03:38] <inglor> mantice, #beryl
[03:38] <youser> i am running linux ubuntu dapper 6.06
[03:39] <Droit> Is there a downloadable document for the Windows users switching to Ubuntu?
[03:39] <youser> im trying to install a program under wine
[03:40] <Madpilot> Droit, not currently, but you could join the Ubuntu Documentation Team & help us finish one for the next release!
[03:40] <inglor> Droit, is it under /dev ?
[03:41] <Jordan_U> inglor: It seems there are more people in #ubuntu-xgl than in #beryl ( currently none )
[03:41] <tekon> Hi all, new to Ubuntu and looking for help getting internet connection
[03:41] <Jordan_U> inglor: ignore that last comment, user error :)
[03:41] <Droit> inglor: I don't think so. i'm pretty sure i looked nearly everywhere
[03:41] <Languid> iter, hmm.. even though i can get into a config screen after the bios to configure the controller?
[03:42] <iter> Languid: yep
[03:42] <sigger_> I just moved a hard drive from a PC with Damn Small Linux to one with Ubuntu.  Does it matter that the users and groups have different uids and gids?  (Sinking feeling in stomach says yes)
[03:42] <Languid> iter, so if it is fakeraid, what do i need to do?
[03:42] <iter> Languid: the other guy had a nice, brand new x series server from ibm
[03:42] <calamari> Droit: ls /dev/hd*
[03:42] <iter> Languid: you want to keep the data on your disks?
[03:42] <Droit> Madpilot: How can i help with documents? I don't know how Ubuntu works. I just barely know how win XP works.
[03:42] <inglor> Droit, tried in /dev/disk ?
[03:42] <youser> ahh my mistake
[03:43] <youser> its known to work on suse
[03:43] <Languid> iter, i would like to dual boot, so yes
[03:43] <youser> and gentoo
[03:43] <iter> Languid: and I assume fs is ntfs on those disks?
[03:43] <Madpilot> Droit, make notes as you discover how it does work. That's how I got started on the docteam last year
[03:43] <Languid> iter, yup
[03:43] <youser> sorry for the confusion
[03:43] <Mantice> Can any one solve why mu azureus is gliching up it does not boot propley
[03:43] <calamari> Droit: what does that command give you?
[03:43] <iter> Languid: sounds like you're going to need another hdd
[03:43] <Droit> inglor: i'm not sure, but i can't check right now coz i'm on win XP. Can't connect to the net with Ubuntu yet
[03:43] <youser> by the way does anyone know how i can organize my xchat room list in order of 3 of ppl
[03:44] <calamari> Droit: ahh ok
[03:44] <youser> # of ppl
[03:44] <iter> Languid: I could be all wet, but I don't know a way to get that raid to boot ubuntu
[03:44] <Languid> iter, that sucks....
[03:44] <iter> :\
[03:44] <calamari> Droit: if you happen to have another system you can connect with, then it will be a lot easier to troubleshoot things hehe
[03:45] <Languid> iter, if i choose to just wipe the xp install, can i actually use the two disks in a raid setup with ubuntu?
[03:45] <Droit> calamari: Ya, i know. The problem with internet support is that your internet has to work in order to get support. ;-)
[03:45] <Suspekt> can some one help me set up a RAID1 in ubuntu?
[03:45] <izm99> edgy has made my laptop retarded!  Ever since a failed resume (battery died while in "suspend") my laptop can't seem to find the swap.  what should i do?
[03:46] <calamari> Droit: hehe yep.. so only the one computer then?
[03:46] <Suspekt> can some one help me set up a RAID1 in edgy
[03:47] <Mantice> Can any one solve why mu azureus is gliching up it does not boot ?
[03:47] <Droit> calamari: Yep, one computer, dial-up internet access and no matter how much i hate microsucks, Win XP is the easiest to setup.
[03:47] <river> I have booted from a live cd on a system which won't boot due to interrupted upgrade to edgy. I have mounted and chrooted to my original root, hower to complete the upgrade, I want to apt-cdrom add the edgy alternate but having trouble how to see it from my chrooted terminal. Can someone help ?
[03:47] <Suspekt> can some one help me set up a RAID1 in edgy
[03:47] <calamari> Droit: ahh, dialup.  I can help you with that, I even wrote a guide on it at one point
[03:48] <calamari> Droit: what modem do you have?
[03:48] <river> I have 2 cd drives one has the live cd and the other has the alternate. I see it on my livecd desktop but can't seem to find it on my chrooted terminal
[03:48] <Droit> calamari: Well, i think i'v found where i have to put the phone number, username and password, now i only have to find what they are. It's in a text file somewhere.
[03:49] <Droit> calamari: USR
[03:49] <digi_> hey everone
[03:49] <digi_> is there a way to see with what ./configure options a certain package was compiled with ?
[03:50] <Mantice> Is Edgy the latest ?
[03:50] <worstenboy> l
[03:50] <river> Can someone help me to list my devices and identify the second cd rom so that I can mlount it if need be in my chroot terminal
[03:50] <Mantice> Because I think my beryl dont work because no one supports dapper O.o
[03:50] <Suspekt> can some one help me set up a RAID1 in edgy
[03:52] <calamari> Droit: sounds like you know what you need to do to get online then
[03:52] <inglor> !raid
[03:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:52] <Mantice> Im going to update to Edgy every one here assumes you have it right ?
[03:53] <calamari> Droit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:53] <inglor> Mantice, it's not a must, but upgrading is easy
[03:53] <Mantice> Is it better ?
[03:53] <Mantice> Im updating at the moment.
[03:54] <Droit> calamari: I started using computers with a Commodore 64, so you could say i have had some experience. it's just linux that i'v never played around with.
[03:54] <Droit> well linux or unix
[03:54] <Mantice> Its to late to stop now, some one told me edgy was like paper cutting your eyes.
[03:55] <Suspekt> can some one help me set up a RAID1 in edgy? that link ubotu gave me is usless
[03:55] <asusathlon> i was wondering if anyone can help me i have lost the location of my wine c drive. anyone know where the default location would be?
[03:55] <Xenguy> Mantice: of course you read the docs, and visited the forums first :-)
[03:56] <LjL> asusathlon: ~/.wine/drive_c or something
[03:56] <Mantice> Xenguy: Yeah I read the first paragraph that said the latest stable release is edgy and heres the command to update, Thats what you ment right :)
[03:57] <Xenguy> Mantice: haha
[03:57] <Mantice> Theres no X Button I cant close it O.o
[03:57] <ubuntugrrrr> !java plugin for firefox
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java plugin for firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <ubuntugrrrr> !firefox
[03:57] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:57] <user-land3> Hello, did you read about the new vulnerability in Firefox ?
[03:57] <Mantice> I herd the wifi is broken but I dont use that so yay :)
[03:58] <Mantice> Xenguy: I hope it fixes my azureus and my Beryl problem.
[03:58] <Xenguy> Mantice: good luck - I haven't bothered to try yet for some reason
[03:59] <dope> if i ssh into my linux box now do i copy files from the linux box to my computer
[03:59] <igor> how there is a ubuntu website that explains how to run Windows programs in Ubuntu...using Wine...anybody knows...
[03:59] <Mantice> Xenguy: I saw a whole bunch of Beryl effects in Ubuntu and I thought that I could live with a couple of games in linux just for the eye candy.
[03:59] <kitche> dope: you would use scp
[03:59] <dope> what's that
[04:00] <kitche> dope it's ssh cp you would do scp user@host
[04:00] <dope> ah
[04:00] <kitche> if it's windows you would need to find a client for it
[04:01] <asusathlon> anybody know of a way to burn .img dvd images on ubuntu?
[04:03] <kitche> asusathlon: I have never heard of .img dvd images before what I normally see is .iso or .img for a floppy
[04:03] <igor> how there is a ubuntu website that explains how to run Windows programs in Ubuntu...using Wine...anybody knows...
[04:03] <kitche> igor: do you mean where in the website?
[04:03] <LjL> !wine | igor
[04:03] <ubotu> igor: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux.  Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[04:07] <LjL> !scp | dope
[04:08] <dope> i say scp pic.jpg me@localhost:pic.jpg
[04:08] <whatthedeuce> Hey.  Would anyone care to help me get dialup set up on my laptop.  I've opened up the Network settings program, and set up interface ppp0 with all of my information (phone number, username, password, etc).  I wasn't sure about what my modem port was, so I stuck with the default (/dev/modem).  Sadly, it's not working.  I've never set up dialup on Ubuntu before, so I may have missed an obvious step.  Could anyone help me out?
[04:08] <dope> i'm using putty to ssh in
[04:08] <Xenguy> dope: scp file user@host:/path/to/destination
[04:08] <dope> from windows
[04:08] <Xenguy> dope: pscp  ?
[04:08] <dope> ?
[04:08] <Xenguy> dope: dos or cygwin
[04:08] <Xenguy> ?
[04:08] <dope> putty
[04:08] <kitche> whatthedeuce: try /dev/ttyS0
[04:08] <dope> putty.exe
[04:09] <Xenguy> dope: you need pscp.exe
[04:09] <dope> maybe i'll just get cygwin
[04:09] <cryptonic> gnome-xgl
[04:09] <dope> ok kewl thx
[04:09] <Xenguy> dope: both are good
[04:09] <kitche> dope: you don't directly connect to the machine though ssh you do it outside of a connection really
[04:09] <dope> i'll probably just put ubuntu on here anyway
[04:09] <ubuntugrrrr> grrrr
[04:09] <ubuntugrrrr> :(
[04:09] <Xenguy> dope: best :-)
[04:09] <dope> heh
[04:10] <Zarephath> Ok a problem..for some reason alternat cd PPC didn't get my sound setup correctly...anyone here know what modules to load for PowerPC?
[04:10] <whatthedeuce> kitche: Still nothing (unless I have to do something to get it to reconnect).  Is there any way of seeing if the connection worked?  It's not giving me any errors, it just can't find any web pages, so for all I know, I could have put in some incorrect information
[04:11] <lwizardl> hi
[04:11] <Pelo> Zarephath,  alsa-mixer maybe ?
[04:11] <kitche> !modem | whatthedeuce
[04:11] <asusathlon> Xenguy looks like i may have to reformat to get this to work?
[04:11] <ubotu> whatthedeuce: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:11] <Zarephath> Pelo: Says no volume control?
[04:11] <kitche> might help you whatthedeuce if you haven't tried that already
[04:12] <lwizardl> I just reinstalled ubuntu went from 6.06 to 6.10 and the logon screen resolution is off but the screen resoultion after login is correct (1024x768) how do i edit it for logon
[04:12] <Pelo> Zarephath,  I think your best bet is to look up your model number in the forum,  chances are you might find instructions from someone else who had the same problem
[04:12] <jstew> Can anyone tell me why my temp dir is being cleared out every time I reboot?
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Help!  IBM Netvista M42 desktop.  Dapper.  6.06.1 was fine, with updates the system clock is horribly broken, system bell malfunctions, and keyboard input doesn't work right.  Any ideas?
[04:12] <jstew> I dont particularly care for that behavior
[04:13] <Zarephath> Pelo: I have up to prior to installing edgy never had an issue with sound...
[04:13] <Jordan_U> jstew: That is the point of the tmp dir
[04:13] <NDPowerBook> Because its a temp dir
[04:13] <jstew> ptth.
[04:13] <NDPowerBook> As in temporary
[04:13] <hou5ton> hmmm .. what port is a web site ?
[04:13] <jstew> I dont want it cleared unless I write a script to clear it
[04:13] <kitche> jstew: it's in the initscripts if you don't want it to do that
[04:13] <Pelo> Zarephath,  edgy was disapointing for several ppl
[04:13] <hou5ton> 22?
[04:13] <jstew> ty kitche
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> hou5ton: Usually 80
[04:13] <Jordan_U> hou5ton: 80
[04:13] <Pelo> hou5ton,  70 I think
[04:13] <kitche> jstew: I just don't know which one does it for ubuntu
[04:14] <river> I have 2 cd drives on my machine and I need to identify them so that I can mount the second one, can someone help ?
[04:14] <jstew> I'll figure it out.
[04:14] <Pelo> river,  they didn'T mount automaticaly ?
[04:14] <Zarephath> Pelo: Yeah I had to download the Alternate CD just to get it installed...it booted to livecd..however the video was completely hosed and I couldn't see crap to get the installer started as I couldn't read what it was asking :-(
[04:14] <Jordan_U> river: ls /dev | grep cd
[04:15] <whatthedeuce> kitche: I'm trying to get dialup working so I can install the things necessary to get wireless working.  It doesn't look like dialup will work without downloading anything, so I may as well just download the wireless things onto a USB and install them.  How would I put packages in apt onto a USB (would apt-get source work?)?
[04:16] <river> Pelo, Jordan_U, I'm want to 'apt-cdrom add' from a chroot session...so I can mount an edgy alternate without ejecting the livecd
[04:16] <zspada15> its quiet....
[04:16] <zspada15> perhaps too quiet
[04:16] <Vicente> too quiete....
[04:16] <kitche> whatthedeuce: what chipset is your wireless card?
[04:16] <Zarephath> Pelo: Well aint' that somethin' did a modprobe snd_powermac and lo and behold I have sound at least as far as the audio tests went..
[04:16] <noodles12> noob question: is it recommended to add sources using synaptic or just adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list? or does it matter?
[04:17] <Pelo> Zarephath,  congrats
[04:17] <Jordan_U> noodles12: Which ever you prefer, it doesn't matter.
[04:17] <Pelo> noodles12,  if you're a noob use synaptic
[04:17] <kitche> noodles12: doesn't matter really just depends on what you use really
[04:17] <pepoX> ati-installer.sh: 176: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[04:17] <Zarephath> Pelo: I don't remember however since I mod probed it, it will auto load at boot now?
[04:17] <pepoX> problem trying to install ati driver
[04:18] <kitche> pepoX: why not install the package?
[04:18] <Pelo> Zarephath,   unfortunately I didn'T have any problem installing any hardware,  so I can't help
[04:18] <tritium> pepoX: please use the ubuntu packages
[04:18] <pepoX> name?
[04:18] <tritium> !ati
[04:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:18] <pepoX> ok
[04:18] <PsiKloPx> hey all
[04:18] <zspada15> how come mine just worked?
[04:18] <whatthedeuce> kitche: Airplus DWL-650+.  I found this guide on getting it to work: http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/debian/DWL-650+_Howto.html
[04:18] <Zarephath> Did they do away with the developer channel? I don't see ubuntu+1 listed anymore..
[04:19] <kitche> Zarephath: it's secret right now
[04:19] <youser> is there a jack room on freenode?
[04:19] <Zarephath> Ahhh...
[04:19] <tritium> Zarephath: #ubuntu+1 is not the developer channel
[04:19] <river> Jordan_U, from my livecd terminal I get cdrom cdrw ptycd ttycd but from my chroot session I get tons of them
[04:19] <jstew> jack rules.
[04:19] <tritium> And #ubuntu+1 hasn't been reopened yet
[04:19] <jstew> just had to say that :)
[04:19] <kitche> Zarephath: anyways #ubuntu+1 is for the development version of ubuntu
[04:20] <Zarephath> tritium: Ummm it was the place to go to ask edgy questions prior to its official release...however I stand corrected...
[04:20] <dope> does ubuntu come witl a c++ compiler?
[04:20] <zspada15> no
[04:20] <dope> WHAT?!
[04:20] <mzli> dope:gcc
[04:20] <kitche> whatthedeuce: and this card doesn't work in ubuntu by default?
[04:20] <zspada15> dope: sudo apt-get gcc
[04:20] <dope> ok thx
[04:20] <tritium> dope: you install build-essential
[04:20] <mzli> dope:but you need apt it.
[04:20] <whatthedeuce> It doesn't get detected during the install
[04:20] <tritium> not just gcc
[04:20] <Jordan_U> dope: no, sudo apt-get install build essentials
[04:20] <Zarephath> kitche: After I modprobe a module will Ubuntu keep it and reload the next time a reboot occurs?
[04:20] <zspada15> build-essential
[04:20] <dope> ok thx
[04:20] <tritium> Zarephath: #ubuntu+1 is for each development release, not just edgy
[04:20] <gnomefreak> dope: install build-essential (its on the cd/dvd if you dont want to install it from net.
[04:21] <mzli> tritium:I know lots compiler. gtk ..etc
[04:21] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu+1 will be open aftter the UDS
[04:21] <tritium> mzli: build-essential doesn't install gtk
[04:21] <gnomefreak> should be
[04:21] <jstew> jack is a modular sound system that can run in realtime and allows mixing of lots of channels, among other neat stuff. It's mainly for sound studio type apps
[04:21] <dope> ok it's going
[04:21] <dope> what does this install?
[04:21] <kitche> Zarephath: no unless you add it to the /etc/modules.d forgot the name of the file that the module has to be added to though
[04:21] <zspada15> !jack
[04:21] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[04:22] <whatthedeuce> kitche: Sorry, that comment was directed at you but I forgot the to put your name at the start.
[04:22] <kitche> mzli: anyways gtk isn't a compiler
[04:22] <tritium> dope: apt-cache depends build-essential will tell you
[04:22] <Zarephath> kitche: Thanks
[04:22] <dope> i see g++
[04:22] <mzli> kitche:ok, gtk is an env.
[04:22] <pepoX> DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"
[04:22] <pepoX> need #?
[04:22] <Aven> hello
[04:23] <Aven> what program can I use to record a voice/
[04:23] <Aven> Pelo: what? :(
[04:23] <kitche> whatthedeuce: hmm there is a way to get packages on a usb you have to download them then go to the /var/cache/packages directory and get the packages that you need there
[04:23] <campbch> hello.
[04:23] <Aven> Pelo: you're attractive
[04:23] <Aven> what program can I use to record microphone?
[04:23] <campbch> i'm trying to get CoD to run, on a graphics card that can handle it, and after 3 days of trying to get it to install i have done so, and found a wine version that can handle it
[04:23] <Aven> what program can I use to record my voice on the microphone?
[04:24] <Aven> I wanna hear myself sing
[04:24] <whatthedeuce> kitche: Would there be a better way to do this that I'm not thinking of?
[04:24] <Pelo> Aven,  look up recorder or recording in synaptic
[04:24] <Aven> mkay, thats pela
[04:24] <Aven> lol
[04:24] <Pelo> ...
[04:24] <campbch> but now the game itself is telling me my graphics card (intel 915 family) is lacking in minimum features
[04:24] <Aven> pela in spanish is a bad word
[04:24] <campbch> i need to install intel's drivers
[04:24] <Aven> AHAHAHAHA
[04:24] <campbch> but i dont know how
[04:24] <campbch> at all
[04:24] <Aven> IM SO FUKIN FUNNY
[04:24] <campbch> and after 4500 lines of output
[04:24] <tritium> Aven: not really
[04:25] <campbch> make exited with Error 2
[04:25] <campbch> which doesnt tell me anything
[04:25] <campbch> how can i fix this?
[04:25] <kitche> Aven: you want a really good program there is audacity
[04:25] <youser> jack audio production
[04:25] <river> Jorden_U,  the 'ls /dev | grep cd' on my chrooted session produces a long list, how do I know which are mounted and as what ?
[04:25] <youser> im trying to mak beats on reason
[04:26] <zspada15> audacity is awsome
[04:26] <youser> i just unloaded my gigs of amples
[04:26] <youser> no, audacity isnt awesome
[04:26] <MiD> hi ppl
[04:26] <youser> its good for sequencing already made tracks
[04:26] <MiD> how can i get all universe/multiverse packages onto a dvd for upgrading a machine without a connection?
[04:26] <kitche> whatthedeuce: the way that I todl to get he packages is the best way I do not know much about that chipset myself
[04:27] <campbch> for the love of god!
[04:27] <techNiKal> hi i heard it is possible to open and close ports directly from a file ?
[04:27] <techNiKal> is it possible in ubuntu linux
[04:27] <campbch> in a non-religious exasperated sense, of course
[04:27] <jStefan> !firewall | techNiKal
[04:27] <ubotu> techNiKal: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:28] <M0E-lnx> hey, how do you start services like sshd, samba, etc in ubuntu?
[04:28] <zspada15> !hosts
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hosts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <zspada15> !host
[04:28] <ubotu> host: utility for querying DNS servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 20000331-9 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 168 kB
[04:28] <Jordan_U> river: run mount with no arguments to see what is mounted where.
[04:28] <youser> !jack
[04:28] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[04:28] <tritium> M0E-lnx: they start on boot
[04:28] <techNiKal> jStefan no i am talking about ports opening through file
[04:28] <tritium> (or after being installed)
[04:28] <M0E-lnx> so you can't mannually stop one?
[04:28] <youser> is there a way i can sort my xchat room list?
[04:28] <jStefan> techNiKal, iptables saves to a file, read the wiki it might say something on it
[04:28] <tritium> M0E-lnx: sure you can.  sudo invoke-rc.d <service name> start | stop | restart
[04:29] <kitche> techNiKal: umm do you mean the internet super daemon since that's what popped in my mind when you said it?
[04:29] <jStefan> M0E-lnx, start stop sripts are located in /etc/init.d/    you just run them and the first parameter could be: start stop restart etc
[04:29] <campbch> is there anyone available who can help me build intel 915 graphics chipset drivers?
[04:29] <campbch> i do not understand them
[04:29] <Pelo> youser,  there is an option in the prefs to order the channels by alphabetical order or by opening order
[04:29] <whatthedeuce> kitche: If there are dependencies for the package that I don't know about, will it tell me?
[04:30] <campbch> but need to compile them and use them
[04:30] <tritium> campbch: they're already included by default for you
[04:30] <newtoubuntu> Can I get some help?
[04:30] <MiD> no one can help me? how can i get all universe/multiverse packages onto a dvd for upgrading a machine without a connection?
[04:30] <campbch> the game says they arent good
[04:30] <campbch> they need to be upgraded
[04:30] <M0E-lnx> mmm. jStefan, so sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop will stop the sshd server?
[04:30] <newtoubuntu> Ubuntu locks up before it ever starts.
[04:30] <campbch> so i need to use the newest version from the intel site
[04:30] <lun_> who has HandelGotD font maybe can send ir for over dcc?
[04:30] <Pelo> campbch,  I think intel cards just work off the default drivers
[04:30] <techNiKal> kitche i heard that a file is available in linux by which you can mention the name and the number of port such as ssh/22 you can change it to some other as well
[04:30] <lun_> *it
[04:30] <newtoubuntu> It hangs on the splash screen
[04:30] <campbch> no
[04:30] <jStefan> M0E-lnx, yes, or what tritium said
[04:30] <kitche> whatthedeuce: well it should if you are downloading them using apt-get but it also says the dependencies on the website
[04:30] <campbch> i need it for a GAME (and screensavers dont work) that is telling me it is NOTworking
[04:31] <kitche> techNiKal: think you are looking for inetd.conf but not sure
[04:31] <campbch> i need the intel drivers from the website, the official linux drivers, something that MIGHT help
[04:31] <campbch> forgive me for being rash, but i am on day 3 of trying to get this game working
[04:31] <campbch> and now im stuck
[04:31] <campbch> trying to compile drivers from source
[04:31] <ervin> alguien que hable espaol...........necesito ayuda
[04:31] <campbch> !es
[04:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:32] <Pelo> campbch,  sorry but I can't help
[04:32] <campbch> noone can help :'(
[04:32] <campbch> i dont understand
[04:32] <campbch> at all
[04:32] <campbch> what its telling me
[04:32] <tritium> !enter > campbch
[04:32] <campbch> i have literally 4500 lines of soomething that could have gone wrong
[04:33] <tritium> campbch: if you're trying to compile source, have you installed build-essential?
[04:33] <campbch> yes
[04:33] <the_tich> has anyone used the the .deb (+gdebi) to install flash9 beta?
[04:33] <newtoubuntu> Hello
[04:33] <zspada15> whats the difference between iso and utf-8?
[04:33] <Pelo> campbch,  does ./compile finish ?
[04:33] <campbch> no
[04:33] <campbch> its different
[04:33] <Pelo> the_tich,  it's easier to just copy over the files
[04:34] <campbch> i dont even understand
[04:34] <Kervan> hey can anybody help me about slow dns request?
[04:34] <kitche> !flash9
[04:34] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:34] <campbch> it wants me to
[04:34] <newtoubuntu> Am I being ignored?
[04:34] <zspada15> Pelo: you want to typically run ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:34] <zspada15> newtoubuntu: no
[04:34] <lun_> who has HandelGotD font maybe can send ir for me over dcc?
[04:34] <kitche> newtoubuntu: you didn't say anything you just said hello
[04:34] <Pelo> zspada15,   I'm not the one with the problem
[04:34] <newtoubuntu> Can someone give me some direction?
[04:34] <campbch> it says Make World
[04:34] <zspada15> oh
[04:34] <newtoubuntu> ubuntu freezes at the splash screen
[04:34] <zspada15> !make
[04:34] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:34] <campbch> NO
[04:34] <newtoubuntu> It never runs. even in safe mode...
[04:34] <campbch> i already read that it doesnt apply
[04:35] <pcgigabyte> Could someone help me. I got gyache working in ubuntu with voice. But I the voice is all jarble any suggestions?
[04:35] <alc> newtoubuntu, smp?
[04:35] <jstew> Anyone else having trouble with nvidia and xv tearing in edgy? I figured out how to fix it.
[04:35] <Pelo> campbch,  what do the last the or four lines of the compilation tell you
[04:35] <the_tich> Pelo, you mean just unpack the compressed folder and drop the files somewhere? where would i drop them?
[04:35] <newtoubuntu> I've tried everything I know but I'm stuck
[04:35] <campbch> this source is different, there is no configure, there is nothing, autoconf does nothing im just supposed to do stuff
[04:35] <magickal1> jstew Im all ears
[04:35] <newtoubuntu> It just freezes about 10 seconds after selecting run or install from the CD boot menu
[04:35] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, did the CD burn ok?
[04:35] <zspada15> campbch: what are you trying to do?
[04:35] <Pelo> the_tich,  there is just one file to copy replace,  just search for it on your hdd and copy over the locations you find
[04:35] <newtoubuntu> The screen is a Graphical screen that says UBUNTU on it...
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> Yes it burned fine...
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> I even checked the hash
[04:36] <zspada15> newtoubuntu: let it load for 10 minutes and then if it doesnt load come back
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> I even ran the check cd from the boot menu
[04:36] <kitche> campbch: it doesn't have a ./configure but does it have a MakeFile.am or something close that that?
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> I've been letting it sit there for over an hour.
[04:36] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, platform?
[04:36] <Pelo> the_tich,  the package I got  just had to files in it , a lib* and a txt file for install instructions
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> The caps lock is frozen
[04:36] <campbch> make[3] : *** No rule to make target `/X11R6/SourceForge/Mesa6.2/Mesa/include/GL/gl.h', needed by `gl.h'.  Stop.
[04:36] <campbch> nope
[04:36] <whatthedeuce> kitche: Thanks for all the help.
[04:36] <newtoubuntu> I have an Intel 3.2Ghz Cpu...
[04:37] <campbch> it has makefile, xmakefile
[04:37] <pepoX> for 3d i need Driver          "ati" of Driver "fglrx" ?
[04:37] <jstew> magickal1: sudo nvidia-config --no-composite (assuming youre not using the composite ext) composite is enabled by default and has tearign problems.
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> It's an Abit IS7 Motherboard
[04:37] <Pelo> campbch,   look up  gl.h in synaptic and if you find it , install it
[04:37] <kitche> campbch: your missing Mesa-dev files
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> 1 GB DDR 400 Ram Dual Channel Mode
[04:37] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, is it the desktop CD or alternate CD ?
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> 300GB SATA Hard Drive
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> 200GB IDE
[04:37] <Volodya_> Volodya
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> another 300GB IDE
[04:38] <newtoubuntu> an 800GB RAID 0
[04:38] <the_tich> Pelo, oh so i can just follow the install instructions then... i don't have flash 7 (it is a fresh install) that shouldn't be a problem right?
[04:38] <tritium> as opposed to "my" missing Mesa-dev files
[04:38] <newtoubuntu> An ATI All in wonder 9800 pro
[04:38] <jstew> also when I disabled composite it had the side effect of brining the system load from 3.7 back down to .9 when watching TV with myth
[04:38] <zspada15> newtoubuntu: thats confusing
[04:38] <Volodya_> send me ubuntu christian edition
[04:38] <newtoubuntu> That's just what's in my sytstem
[04:38] <Pelo> the_tich,   you got me there, I would install flash 7 first
[04:38] <the_tich> Pelo, okay thanks.
[04:38] <splintax> hrm
[04:38] <jstew> google jesux Volodya_
[04:38] <tritium> Volodya_: that's an independent project
[04:38] <kitche> the_tich: why not just install the package that Sveas made?
[04:39] <newtoubuntu> Is there a step by step boot process so I can see where it locks up?
[04:39] <splintax> you know how you can use vmware to run windows within linux
[04:39] <splintax> is there any way i could run a copy of windows from a local hard disk, within windows?
[04:39] <the_tich> kitche, what file is this, where do i get it, and what are its benifits?
[04:39] <kitche> splintax: yes and yes
[04:39] <zspada15> whoops closed the wrong window
[04:39] <kitche> !flash9 | the_tich
[04:39] <ubotu> the_tich: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:39] <Volodya_> ubuntu ce - christian edition
[04:39] <river> Jordan_U, ok finally mounted /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom1 I now ant to add this via apt_cdrom add so that I can continue my interupted upgrade without ejecting the livecd from which I booted
[04:40] <splintax> kitche: how would i go about it? vmware?
[04:40] <newtoubuntu> Is there a way to step through the boot process to see where it freezes up?
[04:40] <jstew> thats interesting, I never knew there was a christian edition of ubuntu
[04:40] <kitche> splintax: yes need vmware
[04:40] <the_tich> kitche, thanks.
[04:40] <tritium> newtoubuntu: yes, boot into single-user mode, and step through the init scripts
[04:40] <splintax> kitche: at the moment i'm dual booting - what i want to do is jump into my windows install without having to reboot
[04:40] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, you could disable splash and quiet
[04:41] <campbch> !X11r6
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about X11r6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <kitche> jstew: it's not from ubuntu though
[04:41] <tritium> newtoubuntu: they're all numbered
[04:41] <splintax> kitche: ok, thanks. i'll look into it.
[04:41] <newtoubuntu> I just want to diagnose the lockup at boot...
[04:41] <jstew> yeah, I figured, but the webpage even stole the ubuntu look and feel lol
[04:41] <newtoubuntu> I need to step through the boot process
[04:41] <river> Jordan_U, never mind I think I've got it used 'sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom1 add'
[04:41] <newtoubuntu> Is there a way?
[04:41] <Pelo> are you the splintax from utorrent ?
[04:41] <tritium> newtoubuntu: see my comments to you above
[04:42] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, edit the boot command (the menu will have an option for that) replace "quiet splash" for "single"
[04:42] <newtoubuntu> You sais they are all numbered
[04:42] <newtoubuntu> What does that mean?
[04:42] <newtoubuntu> Trying that....
[04:42] <kamui> I've tried two edgy upgrades, each progressively more successfull than the last
[04:43] <kamui> but even in my last upgrade my system became very unstable and I had a sparatic touchpad
[04:43] <jStefan> kamui, that's good
[04:43] <campbch> ok, it didnt work again, with the mesa-dev package, and is returning the same error
[04:43] <jStefan> kamui, i spoke too soon
[04:43] <jstew> thans for the /tmp clearing tip kitche, I was able to modify the rc script to keep the files I needed :)
[04:43] <campbch> ake[3] : *** No rule to make target `/X11R6/SourceForge/Mesa6.2/Mesa/include/GL/gl.h', needed by `gl.h'.  Stop.
[04:43] <zspada15> !tmp
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <zspada15> !temp
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <kamui> jStefan: well, I wonder if I should just stop fuxkin with whats not broken (dapper is perfectly running on this laptop), or should I just download the Edgy live cd and try a fresh install from there
[04:44] <specialbuddy> what kind of laptop would be good for linux
[04:44] <newtoubuntu> I'm getting IDE: failed opcode unknown
[04:44] <Kingsqueak> specialbuddy: got a Dell Latitude D820, it works very well
[04:44] <zspada15> newtoubuntu: sounds to me like ur Raid is b0rked
[04:45] <jStefan> kamui, i'm a bit lost, what exactly is failing? an upgraded system or the CD ?
[04:45] <specialbuddy> cool
[04:45] <kamui> jStefan: the upgrade from dapper
[04:45] <newtoubuntu> RAID works fine....
[04:45] <newtoubuntu> In XP that is...
[04:45] <jStefan> kamui, ignore that last one, i'm not lost anymore
[04:45] <kamui> jStefan: Im doing a dist-upgrade each time
[04:45] <zspada15> well, your going to have problems
[04:45] <sigger> just added a bunch of passwd's.  I notice that in shadow they're stored in cleartext.  that's not right is it?
[04:45] <newtoubuntu> It does come up flagges as dirty all the time though....
[04:45] <jStefan> kamui, that's what i get for supporting 2 people at the same time :(
[04:45] <Kingsqueak> specialbuddy: it was free from work, I'd buy it if I had to, like it tons, nvidia vid works good, does beryl/xgl, also Intel wireless works well
[04:45] <Kingsqueak> dvd burner works
[04:46] <newtoubuntu> chkdsk does not find anything wrong with the RAID
[04:46] <jStefan> kamui, updata-manager is preferred over dist-upgrade
[04:46] <jStefan> update-manager*
[04:47] <harry> Can a winmodem be used to fax as well?
[04:47] <river> How do I get 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to use the cd in /media/cdrom1 when it asks for a media change ? it keeps asking for '/cdrom/' instead
[04:47] <kitche> harry: depends some modems don't have that feature
[04:47] <kitche> river check your /etc/source.lst to make sure it's pointing at /media/cdrom1
[04:47] <Pelo> harry,  you also need to give yourself permission to fax,  in user under admin
[04:47] <jStefan> river check your sources.list and see what it sayd (then do sudo apt-get update)
[04:48] <kamui> jStefan: a lot of people have stated that edgy has a ton of great new features and software and compatibility, and it seems to work well for them.  For one, my network card bcm43xx works with the native driver in edgy, but in dapper I haev to use ndiswrapper.  Another thing is that kubuntu supports all of my keyboard special keys on this laptop (not that I use kde, but it was nice to know that it worked.  Edgy still won't suspend, but dapper d
[04:48] <kamui> oes hibernate.   So its a tossup, I think I can make dapper do everything that edgy does, but manually, and It will take a lot of research.
[04:48] <jStefan> says*
[04:48] <harry> What version of the kernel has the ltmodem drivers built in or do I need to add the modules?
[04:49] <river> kitchie, jStefan, I did ' sudo apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom1 add' is that not enough ?
[04:49] <cari_sohib_ce>
[04:49] <tritium> kamui: to clarify, edgy _does_ suspend, but evidently not on your hardware
[04:49] <jstew> Dapper is more stable and seems to be less "rushed", at least in my experiences
[04:50] <Volodya> hey send me ubuntu christian editions
[04:50] <Pelo> harry did you try installing a fax app from synaptic,  I would the think the proper dependencies would get added to
[04:50] <jstew> But now that I have edgy working almost the way I want, it's all good.
[04:50] <kitche> jstew: Edgy is meant as the name says from what I have read
[04:50] <kamui> tritium: thats more or less what I meant, I can't get suspend to work on either dapper or edgy with my hardware, it just doesn't come back.  But I can hibernate in dapper, but edgy doesn't hibernate for me,  I reboot back into the os from scratch
[04:50] <cari_sohib_ce>  /
[04:50] <Pelo> Volodya,  what's special about the christian edition ?
[04:50] <tritium> Volodya: I told you, that's an independent project.  We can't send it to you.
[04:50] <tritium> Please stop asking
[04:50] <h3htimo> how can i get the gdesklets config gui to appear when i accidentaly removed the icon from the system tray??
[04:50] <jstew> lol. seems to be a bad pun kitche buy it's true imho
[04:50] <jstew> s/buy/but/
[04:50] <newtoubuntu> can I get ubuntu to ignore the RAID?
[04:50] <cari_sohib_ce> n
[04:51] <harry> Do I need to add the drivers to the winmodem first before installing the fax app?
[04:51] <cari_sohib_ce>       13       cdv
[04:51] <tritium> kamui: do you have a sufficiently sized swap partition?
[04:51] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, try temporarily removing un-needed drives, and see if it works
[04:51] <zspada15> somebody please ban cari_sohib_ce
[04:52] <newtoubuntu> Like Disonnnect them>
[04:52] <zspada15> yes nemish
[04:52] <jStefan> newtoubuntu, yeah, that should at least help you isolate the problem
[04:52] <tritium> zspada15: for what?
[04:52] <zspada15> s/nemish/newtoubuntu
[04:52] <zspada15> hes trolling
[04:52] <zspada15> or at least kick him
[04:52] <jStefan> zspada15, why so harsh?
[04:52] <jstew> trolling, looks more like a malfunctioning bot to me
[04:53] <tritium> aye
[04:53] <newtoubuntu> I may just fubar this install and put it on another PC. I just wanted to dualk boot to it....
[04:53] <newtoubuntu> It would have been cool...
[04:53] <newtoubuntu> But Linux still does not hev the hardware support that Windows does...
[04:53] <knapp> I am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.
[04:53] <zspada15> newtoubuntu: take that back
[04:54] <zspada15> it has a fuck of a lot more
[04:54] <jStefan> !language | zspada15
[04:54] <ubotu> zspada15: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:54] <zspada15> sorry, strong feeling
[04:54] <jstew> newtoubuntu: I find it to be the opposite.. Ive had better luck with linux installs than windows
[04:54] <cari_sohib_ce>
[04:54] <tritium> zspada15: none of that please
[04:54] <zspada15> sorry
[04:54] <tritium> Or it'll be /mode +q for you
[04:55] <kamui> tritium: 2 gig swap
[04:55] <zspada15> ok im sorry wont happen again
[04:55] <jStefan> mute would be more fair
[04:55] <tritium> thanks
[04:55] <tritium> jStefan: that's +q
[04:55] <jStefan> ...but i meant it for the malfunctioning bot, not zspada15
[04:55] <kamui> tritium: 1.250 gigs of real mem
[04:55] <wastrel> "Ubunto"
[04:55] <tritium> kamui: okay, good
[04:57] <kamui> tritium: is there a log or other way to trace what hardware or drivers may be causing the suspend to crash?  That way I think I could write a script to attempt to diable the drivers (modprobe -r them) before the suspend
[04:57] <zspada15> kamui: put cat modprobe < log.text into your shutdown scripts?
[04:57] <tritium> kamui: if you have an idea of which they are, modprobe -r them prior to suspending
[04:58] <tritium> kamui: if that works, there are settings in /etc/default/acpi-support that you can edit to modprobe -r modules before suspending
[04:58] <XiCillin> how can i make nessusd start at startup?
[04:59] <B_166-ER-X> question here... and so help please : I just installed  a new nvidia Geforce card on my pc, and  I am desperately searching to find how to 'tell' ubuntu that there is a New (much newer) nvidia Card... I have 'reinstalled' the nvidia-glx drivers, but in the xorg.conf under 'device' its still the name of my old card ..
[04:59] <kamui> tritium: the problem is that i have NO idea what might be causing it.  Im pretty sure its not the graphics driver or the wifi, the crash happens when X is runnnig without acceleration using the standard ATI driver and with ndiswrapper blacklisted
[04:59] <B_166-ER-X> and so.. : and some, sorry
[04:59] <Pelo> XiCillin,  system > prets > session
[04:59] <kamui> tritium: I just don't know how to track down where the resume halts
[04:59] <Volodya> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html            http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/linuxforchristians/blog.html
[04:59] <Jordan_U> B_166-ER-X: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh
[05:00] <Jordan_U> B_166-ER-X: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:00] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[05:00] <XiCillin> Pelo, yea but nessusd needs to be started as root
[05:00] <zspada15> what is phigh?
[05:00] <kamui> tritium: Im not even sure how far back up the system gets, I don't have access to a second computer that I can attempt to ssh into the blank laptop with ATM.
[05:00] <Jordan_U> zspada15: Only ask questions of high priority.
[05:00] <tritium> Volodya: please don't advertise here
[05:01] <kamui> tritium: could I try modprobe -r ing EVERYTHING and then putting it all back at resume?  I don't know how unstable that would make the system if most all of the hardware modules were removed...
[05:01] <wastrel> the device name in xorg.conf is just a label.
[05:01] <wastrel> afaik
[05:01] <dragonfly7> Is there a command to restart alsa?
[05:01] <tritium> kamui: doesn't sound like a reasonable approach.  What makes you think it's a kernel module?
[05:02] <Volodya> advertise-what is it??  i am russian...
[05:02] <harry> Hey everyone, thanks for all the advise.
[05:02] <river> jStefan, ok my source.list says "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025.1)] / edgy main restricted" can I just change that to "cdrom1:.." since I want to use /media/cdrom1 ?
[05:02] <mzli> Volodya: a method to make other know your product.
[05:02] <mzli> Volodya:or your service.
[05:03] <B_166-ER-X> Jordan_U,  now under device its 'Generic video card'    :/
[05:03] <jStefan> river, you could remove that line, run sudo apt-get update, and then run apt-cdrom
[05:03] <Volodya> send me ubuntu CE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:03] <B_166-ER-X> Generic is a dull name for a 7300Gs ..
[05:03] <tritium> Volodya: enough!
[05:03] <Flannel> Volodya: UbuntuCE is not an official ubuntu distribution, please ask about it in #ubuntu-offtopic, or other more appropriate places
[05:03] <Jordan_U> B_166-ER-X: Somebody said earlier that the device name is just a label, if everything works, it works :)
[05:04] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[05:04] <theBeno> I need to "make install", what package do I need to install to do that?
[05:04] <wastrel> feel free to go in and change it, just make sure you change it in both places.  (backup the working copy first )
[05:04] <Flannel> theBeno: build-essential will get you a compiler, are you sure you need to compile something though?
[05:05] <theBeno> Flannel, yes.
[05:05] <Pelo> theBeno,   you need to have build-essential package install
[05:05] <Volodya> oooooohhh :-(
[05:05] <theBeno> Flannel, I just could remember the name of the package. :P
[05:05] <river> jStefan, this is an upgrade that was interupted by a machine restart I am trying to recover while booted from a livecd...and would removing it get it to use the alternate edgy cd I have in /media/cdrom1 ?
[05:05] <theBeno> Thanks guys!
[05:05] <jstew> stop trolling Volodya, that's the 5th time you've asked
[05:06] <cevia1> anybody know of boot options I can try to get a really old laptop to boot
[05:06] <jStefan> river, apt-cdrom should add the CD correctly
[05:06] <Pelo> Volodya,   look it up on google
[05:06] <mzli> jstew:what's his problem?
[05:06] <cevia1> it freezes when I try to boot it
[05:06] <jStefan> river, if all else fails, try a symlink
[05:06] <cevia1> err install it
[05:06] <Jordan_U> B_166-ER-X: Since you have run that command though, you may want to restart x and make sure everything works ( if not there is a backup of your old xorg.conf )
[05:07] <zcat[1] > cevia1: how old? It might not be grunty enough to boot (<128M is the usual problem)
[05:07] <theBeno> Pelo, there is a whole bunch of build-essential packages, which one?
[05:07] <jstew> mzli: I dont know if he does not understand internet customs, but he insists on someone sending him an unofficial ubuntu based distro.
[05:07] <DEDHED> Hollo
[05:07] <DEDHED> I upgrade My Winderz Xp to Ubuntu Xp?
[05:07] <Pelo> theBeno,   the one that says just build-essentials,  in synaptic
[05:07] <Volodya> ok. good day for you!
[05:07] <cevia1> its like 7 yrs
[05:08] <zcat[1] > DEDHED: nah, we're all runing ubuntu vista already
[05:08] <cevia1> it boots win95
[05:08] <river> that's what I thought, and I added it usind the 'apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom1 add' however, when I do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it ask me for a media change looking at /media/cdrom instead which has my livecd I booted from
[05:08] <theBeno> Pelo, ahh, Found it.  There is no s on essentials.  It's just build-essential.  That's what threw me off, thanks.
[05:08] <zcat[1] > my pocket calculator boots win95 :)
[05:08] <cevia1> lol
[05:08] <jstew> lol
[05:08] <mzli> jstew: oh, maybe language problem.
[05:08] <cevia1> i gotta check the ram I guess
[05:08] <river> jStefan, soory missed to include your handle above
[05:08] <cevia1> the amount
[05:09] <zcat[1] > otherwise perhaps look at xubuntu, or if it's really low-spec try something like feather linux...
[05:09] <jStefan> river, maybe it requires removal of what existed before
[05:10] <river> jStefan, ok removing the deb cdrom: line
[05:10] <Jordan_U> river: There is an upgrade script on the cd also, you may try that.
[05:11] <Kervan> hello. when i do "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" and then "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" i can not resolve internet can any body help pls...
[05:11] <the_tich> kitche, do you know if i should use the deb http://seveas or the deb -src http:// for flash9?
[05:11] <Jordan_U> !flash9 | the_tich
[05:11] <ubotu> the_tich: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:11] <cevia1> it has 80M ram
[05:12] <DEDHED> where can i download Ubuntu XP
[05:13] <jstew> who let the weirdos out tonight?
[05:13] <DEDHED> is Ubuntu Vista out yet
[05:13] <zero742> is flash 9 a whole lot differenty?
[05:14] <Madpilot> jstew, full moon?
[05:14] <Pelo> jstew,  well the democrats won the elections  and Bush told us that would mean the end of the world
[05:14] <DEDHED> hollo?
[05:14] <Jordan_U> zero742: Yes, it fixes sound issues and lets you play all the flash 8 content you couldn't before.
[05:14] <DEDHED> anyone there
[05:14] <zero742> neato
[05:15] <jstew> lol
[05:15] <zero742> what was that cool
[05:15] <zero742> thanks for the link ubto
[05:15] <Flannel> DEDHED: http://ubuntu.com/download
[05:15] <Pelo> DEDHED,  there is no such thing as ubuntu xp,  you have ubuntu or you have windows xp
[05:15] <DEDHED> my computer is windows xp
[05:16] <DEDHED> so it need the xp version of ubuntu
[05:16] <jStefan> !windows | DEDHED
[05:16] <ubotu> DEDHED: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:16] <DEDHED> vista doesnt't work
[05:16] <mzli> DEDHED:remove it.haha
[05:16] <Flannel> DEDHED: no, your operating system is Windows XP, Your computer is a 386
[05:16] <Flannel> DEDHED: download the 386 version of ubuntu, from that page
[05:16] <DEDHED> no my computer is a DELL
[05:16] <zero742> lol @ dedhed
[05:16] <zero742> I can only hope your fckin around
[05:16] <Pelo> DEDHED,  dell in the maker,  386 is the type of cpu
[05:16] <lun_> who has HandelGotD font maybe can send ir for me over dcc?
[05:17] <stopher> Wow look! It's eracc
[05:17] <DEDHED> no Pelo it say DELL on the front lol
[05:17] <mzli> DEDHED: the brand of your computer has nothing to do with that.
[05:17] <jStefan> troll maybe
[05:17] <zero742> hahah
[05:17] <mzli> i386 is computer's framework
[05:17] <zero742> this is great
[05:17] <troxor> is there a way to list the files and permissions of a dpkg?
[05:17] <DEDHED> do you want me to send you a picture
[05:17] <Flannel> DEDHED: it says "Intel Inside" somewhere on it though, most likely
[05:17] <Kervan> why i can not get back my ethernet after "sudo ifconfig eth0 donw -> up"
[05:17] <DEDHED> i thought intel was something in the government
[05:17] <zero742> yes dedhed get a pick of your dell
[05:17] <zero742> I want proff
[05:17] <zero742> proof
[05:18] <cevia1> i386 is the language the little voices use to speak to your cpu
[05:18] <DEDHED> you dunt believe me zero742
[05:18] <mzli>  DEDHED: I suggest you do not use ubuntu now. it's too agony for you now.
[05:18] <zero742> lol
[05:18] <zero742> this is probably the best conversation I've ever seen
[05:18] <DEDHED> yes it is too agony for me now =(
[05:19] <theBeno> I install build-essentials and I still can't seem to get ophcrack to compile.
[05:19] <Flannel> theBeno: what error does it give you
[05:19] <jStefan> theBeno, try apt-get builddep
[05:19] <Pelo> theBeno,   do you have all the dependencies installed ?
[05:20] <theBeno> There was a problem with GTK
[05:21] <Pelo> theBeno,  when you type  ./configure , what are the last couple of lines you get ?
[05:22] <Pelo> theBeno,  actualy, you might find this usefull   http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[05:22] <Jordan_U> If I decide I am really lazy, is there a way to install the -dev packages corrosponding to all of the libraries I have installed?
[05:22] <theBeno> Pelo, ***couldn't run GTK+ test program...
[05:22] <Pelo> theBeno,  ok , that's a new one to me
[05:22] <wastrel> Jordan_U:  not that i'm aware of but you can apt-get build-dep for whatever you're wanting to compile
[05:23] <radioaktivstorm> i updated ubuntu recently, but for some reason my swap didnt come with it. what do i do?
[05:23] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, how much ram do you have?
[05:23] <Kervan> can any body help me pls i need sleep :(
[05:23] <radioaktivstorm> 256MB
[05:23] <Jordan_U>  wastrel: I know, but not all programs are known by apt-get build-dep,it isn't important though.
[05:24] <Pelo> Kervan,  get sleep now come back fresh tomorrow
[05:24] <DEDHED> EAT CAFFEINE
[05:24] <Kervan> thanks good idea but i cant sleep with a problem
[05:24] <wastrel> Kervan:  ifconfig doesn't call your dhcp client
[05:24] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, I have 256MB RAM
[05:24] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, you could see if you have any unpartitioned space left and create it there, otherwise you could resize a partition
[05:24] <wastrel> try ifup  instead Kervan
[05:25] <radioaktivstorm> ok, but shouldnt i already have a partition for swap?
[05:26] <Jordan_U> Kervan: sudo ifup eth0
[05:26] <santeria[FL] > i have a problem... i tried installing ubuntu 6.10 on my computer and when it started loading it shows random colored lines on teh screen, while the same cd, on my dads computer which is older than mine, it works perfectly. could it be because i have a 64bit processor compared to his 32 bit?
[05:26] <zcat[1] > santeria[FL] : probably different video chipset
[05:26] <theBeno> Pelo, do you know anything about rainbow tables?
[05:26] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Is it an ATI card?
[05:26] <santeria[FL] > hmm
[05:26] <Pelo> theBeno,  no I am sorry
[05:26] <santeria[FL] > nah i got an nvidia 6800gs
[05:27] <santeria[FL] > he is on an integrated graphics card from his celeron
[05:27] <theBeno> Pelo, one other question... When I run ./configure, does it change any files outside of the folder that I extracted?
[05:27] <dredhammer> whats the name of the program to have your program windows go into tray icons when minimized?
[05:27] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Are they diagonal lines? ( I had a similar problem )
[05:27] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, I upgraded to the latest release of ubuntu  recently so there was already a swap partition,,, but i dont know what to do to get it back
[05:27] <santeria[FL] > what was wierd is on the kubuntu installer when i tried that it didnt have the lines, but it went into some command prompt that had some stuff that i didnt understand
[05:28] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, you can check with "free"
[05:28] <santeria[FL] > oh theyre horizontal lines
[05:28] <Pelo> theBeno, , ./configure only check to make sure you have all the dependencies to run the app,    make  creates the proper installation file and  make install  does the actual installation
[05:29] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : And when you mive the mouse up or down there is a thin black line moving left and right?
[05:29] <techNiKal> hi i want to use azureus and it is saying open your 6889 udp port ?
[05:29] <techNiKal> how do i do that ?
[05:29] <santeria[FL] > i didnt try to move the mouse up and down
[05:29] <theBeno> Pelo, ahhh, thanks. I kindof wondered what those always did. :P
[05:29] <santeria[FL] > should i try that?
[05:29] <Kingsqueak> techNiKal: are you running a firewall?
[05:29] <Pelo> techNiKal,  do you have a router ?   open it in the router
[05:29] <techNiKal> no it is disabled on the router
[05:30] <techNiKal> Pelo it is disabled on the router
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> techNiKal: then you are all set if the firewall forwards that port to your client machine
[05:30] <santeria[FL] > should i try to hook my monitor into my integrated vga port instead of my graphics card port?
[05:30] <Pelo> techNiKal,  then you need to open it
[05:30] <tgelter> hey guys, where do I modify my PATH?
[05:30] <techNiKal> Pelo how to open it ?
[05:30] <jStefan> techNiKal, ubuntu does not block any ports by default (but i can)
[05:30] <Pelo> techNiKal,   and in the firewall if you have one , but I can'T help you with that
[05:30] <techNiKal> Pelo and where to open it ?
[05:30] <Pelo> tech  www.portforward.com
[05:30] <Kingsqueak> tgelter: in .bashrc if you use bash     export PATH=$PATH:/something/new/here
[05:30] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, swap is 0 but if  i look through the device manager...i get that i have 4 partitions: ext3, ntfs and two unlabeled ones (im dual booted with XP)
[05:31] <techNiKal> Pelo what is portforward.com ?
[05:31] <Pelo> techNiKal,   the linux equivalent of ipconfig is if config
[05:31] <tgelter> Kingsqueak: I thought I looked through the .bashrc and didn't find anything, but I'll look again
[05:31] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : If you are having the same problem as me you should be able to fix it by installing the nvidea drivers or using vesa.
[05:31] <Pelo> techNiKal,  that's a site that gives you info on how to open a port in your specific router
[05:31] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, don't know what happened there
[05:31] <Kingsqueak> tgelter: may be .bash_profile
[05:31] <techNiKal> Pelo thanks i will try now
[05:32] <santeria[FL] > if i retry the kubuntu installer what should i do when it goes to that wierd command prompt thing?
[05:32] <wastrel> .bash_profile is for login session  .bashrc is non-login
[05:32] <Wiseguy> hey guys, is there a lot of known issues with updating 6.06 to 6.10 through the internet updates?
[05:32] <Pelo> techNiKal,  if you need more help with that go and ask on #azureus-support
[05:32] <Flannel> santeria[FL] : what command prompt thing?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh and choose vesa
[05:32] <river> jStefan, ok, I removed the cdrom: line in sources.list, then did apt-get update, then 'apt-cdrom --cdrom /media/cdrom1 add' , this indeed added the liine back into source.list
[05:33] <santeria[FL] > so type that when
[05:33] <santeria[FL] > i guess ill write that down cause i wont remember it lol
[05:33] <Flannel> Wiseguy: believe Xubuntu has an issue with upgrading via update-manager, you'd have to check launchpad for others though
[05:33] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : But first, did you try booting in safe graphics mode?
[05:33] <jStefan> river, exactly the same line? or a fixed one ?
[05:33] <santeria[FL] > no i didnt try that i will though
[05:33] <tgelter> PATH=~/bin:/usr/local/lib:"${PATH}"  ... does that work?
[05:33] <jStefan> river, more importantly, is it working?
[05:33] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:33] <wastrel> my bad, both .bashrc and .bash_profile are for login shells
[05:34] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, hmm...i dont know. Is there a way for me to gain access to the other partitions on my HDD through ubuntu? or do i need to run a live cd or something to tweak?
[05:34] <santeria[FL] > once i do that if i get into ubuntu can i install my nvidia drivers to ubuntu?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes.
[05:34] <santeria[FL] > does nvidia have linux drivers?
[05:34] <river> jStefan, exactly the same, so how does it know which drive to use.
[05:34] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes, verry good ones in fact :)
[05:34] <jstew> santeria: yes
[05:34] <theBeno> Pelo, thanks for the help/
[05:34] <santeria[FL] > schweet
[05:34] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, ubuntu needs to mount swap partitions maybe the entry is missing from fstab ?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | santeria[FL]
[05:34] <ubotu> santeria[FL] : To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <tgelter> ahh...got it...The global $PATH is defined in /etc/profile
[05:35] <jStefan> river, dont know :(
[05:35] <faddatp> Does anyone know how to make glx work with the G965 chipset?
[05:35] <rBlong2us> hi all
[05:35] <rBlong2us> I do this and isn't working sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsever-xorg
[05:35] <rBlong2us> what the heck
[05:36] <river> jStefan, now tried 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and it want me to put the edgy cd into '/cdrom' then press enter
[05:36] <rBlong2us> sorryI forgot the r
[05:36] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: In what way is it not working?
[05:36] <jStefan> river, try symbolic links
[05:36] <river> jStefan, how ? sorry I'm already at the edges of my noobness
[05:37] <rBlong2us> Jordan_U: I just forgot to put r on server now it's fine
[05:37] <santeria[FL] > one more thing before i try this: how easy is irc to get for ubuntu ;)
[05:37] <garrett__> does anyone know how to explain how to install wolfenstien ET onto ubuntu to a noob?
[05:37] <rBlong2us> howeverr which one is better vesa, fbdev or vga?
[05:37] <jStefan> river, man ln, you are looking for -s option
[05:37] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: What card do you have?
[05:37] <rBlong2us> sis X driver jerks the LCD screen like hell
[05:38] <rBlong2us> I hate this shit
[05:38] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, how would i figure out whether the entry exists or not??
[05:38] <rBlong2us> Jordan_U: a BS SIS
[05:38] <rBlong2us> sis agp pro and jercks the screen maddly, I've been already a week trying to figure this shit out
[05:39] <the_tich> Jordan_U, is downloading from the seveas site usually slow?
[05:39] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: I remember you now :)
[05:39] <rBlong2us> I've tried a thousand refreshes and so on'
[05:39] <garrett__> does anyone know how to explain how to install wolfenstien ET onto ubuntu to a noob?
[05:39] <rBlong2us> is fdev better than vesa?
[05:39] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, you will need to check if one of those partitions is in fact a swap, i dont know how to to that. IF so, it just needs to be mounted in fstab.
[05:40] <rBlong2us> I will miss the dri based games though
[05:40] <rBlong2us> hi anyone?
[05:40] <rBlong2us> any suggestions?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: Try each and see which does best, use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh to speed up the process by only having it ask you what driver and resolution to use.
[05:40] <rBlong2us> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:41] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: Have you filed a bug report?
[05:41] <nicolas_> is the sata2 ok with edgy ?
[05:42] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, Thanks for the help! ill see if i can figure out how to determine which partition is what :d
[05:42] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, most likely swap, as what could have been there before?
[05:42] <rBlong2us> Jordan_U: I think I should, you know what because all the new X driver for sis, from Gentoo, Ubuntu and PuppyOS make the lcd flicker like hell. I've got an old puppy LiveCD from summer with X working fine, so I am just suspecting something has gone wrong with a new X sis driver
[05:43] <niru> can anybody let me know which all indian languages does ubuntu edgy support
[05:43] <jStefan> !swap
[05:43] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[05:43] <niru> And also what architectures does ubuntu edgy supports
[05:43] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, well, i have the ntfs winXP partition....an ext3 partition, and two others
[05:43] <jStefan> !swap > radioaktivstorm
[05:43] <jStefan> that wiki might say something helpful
[05:43] <aro_ron> hey all
[05:44] <Jordan_U> rBlong2us: File soon, while Feisty is still in the begginning stages and mabie a fix will be included by release.
[05:44] <aro_ron> I need some help installing edgy
[05:44] <sigger> I may have borked my password file.  before I exited sudo -i I noticed that the passwd's were in cleartext.  when I exited sudo -i, I couldn't sudo and now I can't log in.  anyone?
[05:44] <Kingsqueak> niru what architecture are you curious about?
[05:44] <niru> jStefan:could you please answer to my previous messages
[05:44] <aro_ron> I had been running dapper since its release in june
[05:44] <niru> I want to prepare a difference chart.so I need to know aout what all arch. does ubuntu edgy support
[05:44] <jStefan> niru, don't know the answer
[05:44] <aro_ron> but managed to bork my upgrade to edgy, so I am tryingto instal from scratch
[05:45] <MasterOfDisaster> niru: i386, AMD64, PPC, SPARC...
[05:45] <aro_ron> but I cant get the installer to actually install
[05:45] <jStefan> MasterOfDisaster, we still have SPARC ?
[05:45] <Kingsqueak> niru go to the ubuntu.com site
[05:45] <MasterOfDisaster> for server, yea
[05:45] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: On what architecture
[05:45] <niru> MasterOfDisaster:And which all indian languages
[05:45] <aro_ron> I tell it to put the mount point for root on the existing ext3 partition, but it refuses to mount and install
[05:45] <aro_ron> keeps saying there isno root file system. well duh, I havent installed it yet
[05:45] <MasterOfDisaster> 6.06 anyways...
[05:45] <aro_ron> any ideas?
[05:46] <ala> anyone know how to pipe a file into eclipse?
[05:46] <aios> Akuma_:
[05:46] <aro_ron> jourdan_U its x86
[05:46] <rBlong2us> ok re-starting
[05:46] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: x86 arch
[05:47] <radioaktivstorm> jStefan, this looks really promising... maybe ill just go with making a swap file and deal with the partition later....
[05:47] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: Did you reformat the partition first? ( the liveCD installer is picky )
[05:47] <specialbrad> Anyone know how to deal with unresolvable dependances with Synaptic?
[05:47] <str0ng> hello..
[05:47] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, ok
[05:47] <broyce> Hello - I could use some help with postfix - anyone out there that can handle this
[05:47] <Jordan_U> specialbrad: What package?
[05:47] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: not yet, think that will do it? cause the instaler has a reformat option, but it wont run it
[05:47] <str0ng> is there a tool that i can use in order to explicitly enable specific IP's for NAT?
[05:48] <MasterOfDisaster> dependancy issues are from too many repositories, usually
[05:48] <specialbrad> Jordan_U: libusb-dev
[05:48] <jStefan> radioaktivstorm, check the troubleshooting section too
[05:48] <Jordan_U> specialbrad: What error does it give when you try to reformat?
[05:48] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: What error does it give when you try to reformat?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: That last comment was for aro_ron, sorry.
[05:49] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: it simply says no root filesystem
[05:49] <river> jStefan, in my chroot terminal session, I unmounted /media/cdrom which was my /dev/hdc and instead mounted /dev/hdd in its place and the upgrade seems to be away
[05:49] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: When in gparted?
[05:49] <jStefan> river, sounds good
[05:50] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: no, gparted seems to deal with it alright, its when I click next to set the mount points that it stops
[05:50] <specialbrad> MasterOfDisaster: Hrmf, I'll trying removing my non official ones and see if that works out
[05:50] <MasterOfDisaster> yea, disabling the 3rd party ones usually works
[05:50] <tgelter> if I installed something with sudo python setup.py install , how do I remove it?
[05:50] <specialbrad> MasterOfDisaster: Worked, thanks a ton
[05:50] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: I am running it live right now, so I can try anything
[05:50] <river> jStefan, and Jordan_U thanks for your very patient assist over the last couple of days...with some luck, this will complete and fix the interupted upgrade and will be able to boot of the hdd once again
[05:50] <santeria[FL] > ok i tried ubuntu in safe graphics mode and it did the same vertical line thing, now kubuntu doesnt even take me to that command prompt thing it does the same as ubuntu
[05:51] <Jordan_U> specialbrad: Also try: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:51] <bimberi> tgelter: sudo python setup.py uninstall   ??
[05:51] <santeria[FL] > and i tried moving my mouse but i dont think thatll work anyway because i ahve a usb mouse
[05:51] <tgelter> bimberi: no go...thanks for trying though
[05:51] <timbobsteve> hi all
[05:51] <MasterOfDisaster> HI!
[05:51] <santeria[FL] > im gettin frustrated
[05:52] <aios> is it safe to delete the mounted drive icons that ubuntu sets on the desktop when installing?
[05:52] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : You can press ctrl+alt+F2 to get to an ungarbled terminal.
[05:52] <santeria[FL] > i is confoosed
[05:52] <timbobsteve> i just apt-get'd linux-image-2.6.17-10-powerpc .... but after a reboot `uname -r` still says I am using 2.6.15-26-powerpc.... any idea how to switch them over?
[05:52] <santeria[FL] > so when it shows the horizontal/some times verticle lines and color stuff, press control alt f2?
[05:53] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes.
[05:53] <santeria[FL] > ok ill try...
[05:53] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: I still have all the leftover files from my borked dapper install, inclusing my GRUB instal for dual booting with XP. could any of that be affecting it?
[05:53] <Cholito> weird stuff: I can't hear anything (the computer I mean....) but I see amarok showing the analizer moving. I was watching a movie today so I KNOW the sound card works
[05:53] <linlin> anyone in or near Miami, FL ?
[05:53] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : You may need to install the nvidia drivers from the terminal also, but ther is also a possibility neither of those things will work.
[05:54] <Cholito> I tried using headphones and speakers and nothing
[05:54] <timbobsteve> can anyone help with a kernel upgrade?
[05:55] <skelter> Cholito: same thing happened to me
[05:55] <skelter> i came in here to figure out how to fix it :s
[05:55] <Cholito> skelter: really?
[05:55] <Cholito> crap
[05:55] <Jordan_U> aro_ron: If you still have files from dapper, did you not reformat or do you just have another partition?
[05:55] <Cholito> dist-upgraded?
[05:55] <skelter> yes, but sound worked after the upgrade
[05:55] <skelter> stopped i think yesterday
[05:55] <Cholito> uhmmmm
[05:55] <skelter> i didn't notice till i tried to run some music
[05:56] <Cholito> same here LOL
[05:56] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: I havnt reformatted yet, as I was expecting the installer to do that. I have a NTFS and an EXT3 partition
[05:56] <Cholito> do you have amaroth repositories?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Cholito: Did you watch any flash videos recently by any chance?
[05:56] <skelter> i don't believe so
[05:56] <Cholito> Jordan_U: yeap :S
[05:56] <MasterOfDisaster> *sigh*
[05:56] <skelter> and i know i didn't see any flash, since i am on a 64bit proc...flash doesn't work
[05:56] <orangey> mysql
[05:56] <MasterOfDisaster> flash is so screwed up for linux...
[05:57] <Cholito> yes I was trying to see the new Ikea catalog LOL
[05:57] <Jordan_U> Cholito: Flash 7 screws up sound, restart then install flash9 instead
[05:57] <Cholito> restart FF?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> !flash9 Cholito
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash9 Cholito - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <skelter> how about for me...any way you could help me troubleshoot?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Cholito: Your system, there is a command to just restart the sound but I can't find it again, restarting the computer will do it though.
[05:58] <Jordan_U> !flash9 | Cholito
[05:58] <ubotu> Cholito: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:58] <Cholito> Jordan_U: just did it as I couldn't hear anything
[05:58] <LGKeiz> Kingsqueak I fixed it
[05:58] <Cholito> will try it dou ;)
[05:59] <Jbirk> how do I take desktop screenshots?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Cholito: And what applications have you run since then? ( anything that uses OSS instead of alsa can scew sound up )
[05:59] <Jbirk> I mean a movie?
[05:59] <Jbirk> I want to record a quick video of everything on my screen
[06:00] <santeria[FL] > ok the ctrl+alt+f2 took me to that command prompt thingy with the root or sodu or whatever but i dont know what to do to get it to actually go to ubuntu
[06:00] <Cholito> crap, can't remember how did I installed the player
[06:00] <skelter> Jbirk: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+screen+capture+movie
[06:00] <Jordan_U> !flash9 | Cholito
[06:00] <ubotu> Cholito: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:00] <Cholito> Jordan_U: got it the first time
[06:01] <Cholito> I meant I cant remember if I did it manually or via apt
[06:01] <santeria[FL] > so when it went to the lines thing i hit ctrl alt f2 and it took me to a command prompt looking thing and then i had no idea what to do so im back
[06:01] <cedriczg> hello there
[06:02] <santeria[FL] > anybody have any ideas?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Do you have another machine, or do you have to quit IRC to use the liveCD?
[06:02] <santeria[FL] > i have to quit irc
[06:02] <broyce> postfix trouble shooting help need
[06:03] <Cholito> skelter: any luck?
[06:03] <skelter> no, but i don't have much to go on at the moment
[06:03] <skelter> i can't do anything with flash
[06:03] <santeria[FL] > i mean it works perfectly on my dads computer but on mine when i tell it to start the livecd it does that colored lines thing and when i hit ctrl alt f2 it went to a command prompt looking thing where it had like root and something else
[06:03] <radioaktivstorm> how do i edit files that require root privileges?
[06:03] <skelter> 64 bit proc
[06:03] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : I can give you intructions on what commands to type to install the nvidea drivers if you are willing to try it / wait a bit.
[06:04] <smoenux> can someone help me with a Router problem? For some reason when I connect to it, it sometimes just doesn't do anything, or pages just does not load.  Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:05] <aro_ron> Jordan_U: wel, seems like reformatting did the trick, installer is running fine now,thanks!
[06:06] <santeria[FL] > he has a really old celeron and i have an amd 3500+ with nvidia 6800gs and 2gb ram
[06:06] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yeh, intell releases open source drivers so support for them "out of the box" is much better than for nvidia
[06:06] <santeria[FL] > so youre saying i can install nvidia drivers from that command prompt thingy?
[06:07] <niru> can anybody say whether ubuntu edgy detects existing linux partitions
[06:07] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes.
[06:07] <santeria[FL] > complicated right?
[06:08] <niru> Jordan:Does ubuntu edgy detect existing linux partitions
[06:08] <bimberi> niru: it did on my install
[06:08] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Only for me, for you, you just need to type in the commands I give.
[06:08] <niru> and what about windows partition
[06:08] <bimberi> niru: yes, that too
[06:08] <santeria[FL] > so should i just write them down on a piece of paper, or...
[06:08] <santeria[FL] > lol
[06:09] <santeria[FL] > i dont think the other computers in my house have irc or anything
[06:09] <niru> bimberi:what about ubuntu edgys indian language support
[06:09] <bimberi> niru: no idea sorry
[06:09] <knapp> Anyone familiar with this error: ""checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"" ?
[06:09] <sigger_> is there a "single user/rescue mode" in ubuntu server that gives root to local term? Appears I've messed up shadow/passwd.
[06:09] <niru> I am not getting any site for checking which all indian languages does ubuntu edgy support
[06:10] <morphish> sigger: from grub you can choose that mode, the menu.lst is setup that way
[06:10] <nicolas_> niru: try the live livecd you'll see
[06:10] <bimberi> niru: try contacting the Ubuntu Indian LoCo Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam
[06:11] <sigger_> morphish: no password needed to gain root, right?
[06:11] <niru> nicolas:I just now tried and saw only Hindi and Bengali language support among indian languages
[06:11] <santeria[FL] > yea thats the command prompt htingy mine goes too
[06:11] <santeria[FL] > to
[06:11] <Chippy> hey, is anyone else noticing bugs with the new NVIDIA drivers as compared to the beta ones?  I'm getting a sort of "tearing", where parts of the screen don't update properly until something forces them to
[06:11] <santeria[FL] > root or some other thing
[06:11] <morphish> sigger: shouldn't, worst case boot your desktop CD, mount your / and chroot in, setting root password
[06:11] <bimberi> sigger_ if there is no root password set up recovery mode goes straight to a root shell
[06:11] <Cholito> uhmmm I just rebooted and got no sound
[06:12] <santeria[FL] > so jordan is it a set list of commands i can just write down and punch in?
[06:12] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : sudo software-properties -e universe
[06:12] <Jordan_U> sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <Jordan_U> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx
[06:12] <Jordan_U> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[06:12] <Jordan_U> ( choose nvidia when asked what driver to use )
[06:12] <Jordan_U> sudo gdm
[06:12] <Vuen> hey all, i set up ssh on this computer, but i also have a guest account. how can i disable guest from logging in through ssh?
[06:12] <stylus> Hmm, lookups are taking ages since I installed ubuntu. Anything I should know?
[06:13] <sigger_> I never set a root pw and I thought I read that root account was "locked" by default
[06:13] <noxxle> how long does it take YOU to reach a fully loaded desktop from power on?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Except that first line should say restricted instead of universe :)
[06:14] <wastrel> see why would you need to chroot when you can just edit the file on the mounted drive?
[06:14] <Flannel> sigger_: you're correct, ubuntu uses sudo
[06:14] <santeria[FL] > so sudo software-properties -e restricted?
[06:14] <Flannel> !sudo | sigger_
[06:14] <ubotu> sigger_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:14] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : Yes.
[06:14] <bimberi> sigger_: 'locked' means that it doesn't have a password setup.  So you should get straight to a root shell in recovery mode
[06:15] <sigger_> I was using sudo (hehe, that's how I got in this mess ;)) but since my pw's are borked, no access
[06:15] <pungie> I am a newbie... I had my wireless with wep key workig great.. I just bought a new linksys router and now, I can't get dhcp to work.. I try static ip that fails. Yet I can see it in the gui. I can see it when I do iwlist scanning... And if I leave the machine on overnight, sometimes it will magically be working again
[06:15] <noxxle> edgy is WAY slower to boot than dapper
[06:15] <pungie> <--- very frustrated
[06:16] <Xaxafrad> hi, i'm a stoopid noob, finished installing xubuntu and am trying to change grub's default boot option. i made the proper edits to /boot/grub/menu.lst, but it can't open the file for writing. am i supposed to use a special program for editing this file?
[06:16] <cyrenity> hi
[06:16] <Jordan_U> noxxle: Usually it is the other way around.
[06:16] <Cholito> crap, sound still not working
[06:16] <pungie> xaxafrad : use sudo
[06:16] <bimberi> Xaxafrad: you need to edit it as superuser - eg. sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:16] <noxxle> jordan how long does it take you to reach your desktop after powr on?
[06:17] <Xaxafrad> ah, thanx
[06:17] <Jordan_U> noxxle: never timed it.
[06:17] <concept10> if he didnt use sudp in the first place, he wouldnt have been able to save (modify) the file
[06:17] <LGKeiz> pungie - make sure you have the correct mode, channel, etc
[06:17] <noxxle> you should.
[06:17] <LGKeiz> I just recently got mine working :P
[06:17] <Jordan_U> noxxle: Why?
[06:17] <noxxle> because i want to know, and im important
[06:17] <pungie> Hmm. mode and channel, how do I do that in /network/interfacces?
[06:17] <LGKeiz> you don't
[06:17] <LGKeiz> pungie - get wifi-radar
[06:18] <Xaxafrad> should i have sudo?
[06:18] <jmoncayo> sorry to bother with an out of topic question but is there somebody from paris around here?
[06:18] <mikebot> can someone here help me with the opera web browser?
[06:18] <pungie> ok, apt-get install wifi-radar and then do what with it... very new, so any more direction before I reboot and try?
[06:18] <LGKeiz> pungie - go to .. err
[06:18] <LGKeiz> sec
[06:18] <Vuen> i set up ssh on this computer, but i also have a guest account. how can i disable guest from logging in through ssh?
[06:18] <LGKeiz> let me boot up my system
[06:18] <dungodung> what's the file for setting up what partitions are going to be automounted?
[06:18] <Madpilot> mikebot, sure, if you actually ask a question about it ;)
[06:18] <viikio> hi guys, i need help playing flash videos in firefox.. i can play them in windows but not in ubuntu.. i've already installed flash player 7 for linux
[06:18] <pungie> googling wifi radar rihgt now
[06:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: heh, ok, i am trying to add a serach thing, and i want it to put a '+' for a space instead of a '%20'
[06:19] <LGKeiz> pungie - dapper or edgy?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> !fstab | dungodung
[06:19] <ubotu> dungodung: The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:19] <dungodung> ah, thanks
[06:19] <pungie> dapper
[06:19] <LGKeiz> ah
[06:19] <Madpilot> mikebot, ah... not sure; %20 is just the encoding for a blank space
[06:19] <LGKeiz> pungie it is really recommanded to upgrade
[06:19] <pungie> the old router worked fine before... now this new one is 'flakey'
[06:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: ok, i have another question for you then
[06:19] <LGKeiz> o_o;
[06:19] <pungie> Yeah need an inet connection to upgrade =)
[06:19] <sigger_> Vuen: you can use the usermod program to make the default script for guest /bin/false
[06:20] <Xaxafrad> i don't think i have sudo....
[06:20] <sigger_> Vuen: i.e. do not let them execute a login script
[06:20] <LGKeiz> pungie okay. the dapper repo doesn't have wifi-radar so you gotta manually find it, and install it
[06:20] <pungie> ok can do that
[06:20] <tuxtheslacker> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/48185-2.jpg what desklet manager is that?
[06:20] <pungie> So I will take over my ifconfig and ifup ifdown network interfaces etc?
[06:20] <smoenux> does anyone know of any link to help me with my router?
[06:20] <smoenux> !router
[06:20] <Jordan_U> Xaxafrad: Why do you say that?
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <mikebot> Madpilot: i tried to get ubuntu to work on this computer, but i can't get internet (i am on a school lan), and when i type in a terminal 'dhclient' i get: 'No DHCPOFFERS recieved. No working leases in persistent database.'
[06:20] <Xaxafrad> it's not in /bin
[06:21] <LGKeiz> pungie - yeah it'll take over everything
[06:21] <santeria[FL] > here goes nothing
[06:21] <pungie> thanks LGKeiz, I will give that a chance
[06:21] <tuxtheslacker> mikebot, are you sure they don't assign you an IP?
[06:21] <wastrel> sudo is in /usr/bin
[06:21] <Kingsqueak> Dapper has wifi-radar in it
[06:21] <dungodung> one more question: is it safe for me to format (using gparted, if that matters) the first (boot) partition of a secondary hdd
[06:21] <Vuen> sigger_: ah. that works, thanks :)
[06:21] <Kingsqueak> apt-cache search wifi-radar    it's there
[06:21] <pungie> Its  bizarre because it works some tmes and I can't get static to work for me for the life
[06:21] <sigger_> Vuen :)
[06:21] <LGKeiz> pungie when you get this installed, you will need to iwlist <device> scan and get the mode and channel and manually set it in wifi-radar which has a gui to help you, and automatically detects networks
[06:21] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : You need to be connected to the internet also. See you when you get back :)
[06:22] <pungie> cool
[06:22] <pungie> thanks LGKeiz I will hopefully get this happy
[06:22] <santeria[FL] > roger roger
[06:22] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz: you finally get your driver working?
[06:22] <squeee> Can you run beryl with 2 monitors with ati?
[06:22] <Madpilot> mikebot, I know very little about networking; mine's always just worked, happily. For the Opera question, do try the Opera Forums, they can be very good.
[06:22] <LGKeiz> Kingsqueak of course
[06:22] <pungie> rebooting now.. thanks
[06:22] <mikebot> Madpilot: ok, well, thanks
[06:22] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz: you should have stuck to nm-applet ;-) it would do WPA for you at least
[06:22] <clop> when i try to apt-get remove totem, it tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop... is that an important package?
[06:22] <LGKeiz> Kingsqueak ndiswrapper -> driver, I had the wrong driver, kingsqueak, network-manager wouldn't work for me.. but wifi-radar worked perfectly
[06:22] <Madpilot> clop, only when it's time to upgrade to the next release of Ubuntu
[06:23] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz: weird, glad you got it working
[06:23] <Jordan_U> squeee: Try #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl , they know more about the specifics of beryl.
[06:23] <squeee> jordan: k thanks
[06:23] <clop> Madpilot, is there a way for me to find out what is in that package?
[06:23] <tuxtheslacker> can someone tell me of another desklet program aside from gdesklet?
[06:24] <Jbirk> CAn someone tell me a package that lets me record video of what is on the screen?
[06:24] <Madpilot> clop, it's just a meta-package, to get other stuff w/ content to actually install. Removing it doesn't remove the rest of the packages it installs.
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> hihi
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak :)
[06:24] <Kingsqueak> heh
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak mIRC @ linux = funny
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Wine <3
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[06:24] <Kingsqueak> try irssi
[06:24] <clop> Madpilot, oh, alright, thanks :)
[06:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I'm a mIRC scripter
[06:25] <Kingsqueak> or if you like GUI, xchat
[06:25] <Kingsqueak> heh
[06:25] <Vuen> sigger_: ah, found a better way. i can simply add AllowUsers nick in the sshd_config to only allow myself to login. that way guest can still log in to a terminal.
[06:25] <dungodung> yeah, crazily enough, wine works with mirc
[06:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> :p
[06:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I use it.
[06:25] <Kingsqueak> time for sleep
[06:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> later mate
[06:25] <Kingsqueak> night
[06:25] <viikio> hi guys, i need help playing flash videos in firefox.. i can play them in windows but not in ubuntu.. i've already installed flash player 7 for linux.. i can play videos on youtube but.. im trying to view something which is on my machine, a webpage which plays videos.. it displays the page properly but the videos dont work.. is there something else i need?
[06:25] <sigger_> Vuen: ok, but  I thought you didn't want guest to be able to login
[06:26] <Vuen> sigger_: i don't want guest to login through ssh. i want them to be able to login locally
[06:26] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> l>.>
[06:26] <sigger_> oooh
[06:26] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> School tomorrow :
[06:26] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> :(
[06:26] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, try flash 9 beta?
[06:26] <skelter> viikio - 64bit proc by any chance?
[06:26] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, the site probably requires newer version of flash.
[06:27] <viikio> ok.. i'll try flash 9
[06:27] <skelter> because adobe doesn't make a 64 bit version of flash player for linux
[06:27] <viikio> hm.... 64 bit? how do i know if im 64 bit?
[06:27] <Cholito> alsamixer works for me and still no sound
[06:28] <Xaxafrad> is /usr/bin not in the path already? i click on "applications", "run program...", then type "sudo gedit <file>" but nothing happens
[06:28] <skelter> generally it is one of the listed features when you get a new computer
[06:28] <ThomBrown> any pointers for me?  I'm trying to mount my Kodak camera in Edgy
[06:28] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, what processor do you have? intel or AMD?
[06:28] <viikio> ....somebody gave this to me.. i have intel centrino duo
[06:28] <B_166-ER-X> !edgytorrentproblem
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgytorrentproblem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <skelter> torrent works fine for me w/ edgy
[06:29] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> hmm..
[06:29] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> You know that bottom gui on MAC
[06:29] <B_166-ER-X> why does on edgy, i cannot start more than one torrent download ? (with bittorrent client, and freeloader just doenst work)
[06:29] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Can you get that Ubuntu somehow?
[06:29] <ThomBrown> no camera mounting help, then?
[06:30] <jStefan> viikio, "uname -a" in terminal
[06:30] <Cranky-E17> !eclair
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclair - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <wastrel> Xaxafrad:  sudo is a command-line program, for gedit use gksudo
[06:30] <tuxtheslacker> jStefan, what's he looking for?
[06:30] <Xaxafrad> oh
[06:30] <cedriczg> B_166-ER-X,  Maybe it is a today problem with torrent.. For me right now it is really slow
[06:30] <jStefan> tuxtheslacker, 32bit / 64bit
[06:31] <squeee> Is it possible to do a vnc connection while a computer is at gdm?
[06:31] <viikio> uname -a: 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:31] <Xaxafrad> so "gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst" should work?
[06:31] <B_166-ER-X> cedriczg,  nope, i read about it on forums , but it wasnt resolved...
[06:31] <B_166-ER-X> and its not 'slow' it just dont want to start
[06:31] <skelter> viikio: that looks like 32bit to me. so try installing the latest flash player
[06:31] <tuxtheslacker> jStefan, lspci | grep processor should do it, not uname.
[06:31] <Flannel> Xaxafrad: you need to stick gedit in there (your editor)
[06:31] <cedriczg> B_166-ER-X,  So what's the real problem?
[06:31] <jStefan> tuxtheslacker, he asked for "running"
[06:31] <viikio> seems like flash 7 is the newest.. i just visited the site
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> ohhhh!
[06:32] <skelter> flannel: if you have a 64 bit, you will see x86_64 in uname
[06:32] <Jordan_U_> Xaxafrad: no "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, flash 9 is in beta.
[06:32] <digivore> why can't i view my root files in konqueror?  i used to be able to...?  i can only see my home dir...
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> there's a link to it in the restricted formats.
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, ^^
[06:32] <B_166-ER-X> cedriczg,  that i cannot start more than one torrent ?
[06:32] <tuxtheslacker> viikio, it comes out officially in january.
[06:32] <Jordan_U_> !flash9 | viikio
[06:32] <ubotu> viikio: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:32] <cedriczg> B_166-ER-X,  ok
[06:33] <Jordan_U_> viikio: IMHO flash9 seems much less "beta" than the joke that is flash 7.
[06:33] <squeee> jordan: I can crash flash 9 easily, flash 7 i have a harder time with
[06:34] <B_166-ER-X> cedriczg,
[06:34] <B_166-ER-X> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/69598
[06:34] <viikio> thanks for the links!
[06:34] <Cholito> the funny thing is that amarok looks like is playing sound...
[06:34] <Jordan_U_> squeee: But at least it doesn't break your sound ( I know aoss, but still )
[06:35] <squeee> jordan: both have sound that work just fine for me, but the av sync sucks in 7
[06:35] <Xaxafrad> i don't see gedit in either /bin or /usr/bin
[06:36] <Jordan_U_> squeee: Try playing sound from another application at the same time though... and yeh, the av sync sucks for everybody :)
[06:36] <Xaxafrad> i tried mousepad but got a empty file
[06:36] <MM2> My distro upgrade seems to hang up setting up libpam-modules. Should I kill it, reboot or what?
[06:37] <mardi_soir> hello i have a problem when a lauch X with Driver "savage" in xorg.conf it does not work no reponse the computer does not seems to be crashed but a can' t do anything and a i have to reboot ... lspci tell me it s a s3 savage
[06:37] <mardi_soir> so i need hep
[06:37] <mardi_soir> it is dapper lts
[06:39] <asarch> Hi everyone, how is it getting along?
[06:40] <tich> i just tried to load my nvidia driver (following the wiki) which i have done many times before and this time it won't load. help?
[06:40] <Jordan_U_> tich: Any errors?
[06:40] <Xaxafrad> if the 'r' key is broken on my laptop, is there an alternate way to maybe copy and paste an r into the run program box?
[06:41] <Cholito> Xaxafrad: use the mouse (the middle button
[06:41] <asarch> Hi guys, I am having a little problem with the installation program
[06:41] <tich> Jordan_U_, yes. unable to load nvidia kernal driver be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[06:41] <cedriczg> Xaxafrad, or if you don't have middle button push lef and rifght button at the same time
[06:41] <Xaxafrad> cholito: you mean the scroll button, or do i have the wrong kind of mouse?
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> ausimage, and nobody else is experiencing what you are, to my knowledge. sounds like the problem is on your end
[06:42] <ro1> hey i did a lshw -C
[06:42] <asarch> You'll see: I already been using Fedora and when I select the first partition of my hd the programs shows an error that there is no root partition
[06:42] <ro1> on network
[06:42] <ro1> i saw my wireless is disabled
[06:42] <tich> Jordan_U_, which should be no problem because that is the first step in the wiki
[06:42] <ro1> where do i go from there
[06:42] <cedriczg> Xaxafrad, I think the scroll button should work as well
[06:43] <asarch> Xaxafrad: press both mouse button from your laptop to paste the text
[06:43] <ro1> can anyone help with
[06:43] <Jordan_U_> tich: Did you compile a custom kernel?
[06:43] <Xaxafrad> yeah! (l+r did the trick :)
[06:43] <ro1> lshw -C
[06:43] <cedriczg> Xaxafrad, select the text (don't even have to do a crtl-c) and then use the middle button of the mouse to paste
[06:44] <tich> Jordan_U_, i don't think so... if i could do it accidently i might have but i don't think that is possible.
[06:44] <ausimage> Can anyone explain why bash scripts located on a mounted partition under /media gives me a bad interpreter: no permission? The script runs fine from the home directory.
[06:44] <ro1> Jordan: Can you help with lshw stuff
[06:44] <Jordan_U_> tich: No, it isn't :)
[06:44] <Xaxafrad> thanx guys
[06:44] <tich> Jordan_U_, i switched from the generic to 386 (restricted modules)
[06:44] <Xaxafrad> (and gals?)
[06:44] <cedriczg> Xaxafrad, Your welcome
[06:45] <Cholito> Xaxafrad: sorry, yes, the one in the scroll
[06:45] <Jordan_U_> tich: You need to install the generic package, it will still use the 386 modules.
[06:46] <Cholito> I see you got it working...
[06:46] <tich> Jordan_U_, should i uninstall the 386 package, the first time i tried to enable it they were both installed
[06:46] <Jordan_U_> tich: No, they should both be installed.
[06:47] <darius_> Is Easy Ubuntu a good tool for Edgy?
[06:47] <jStefan> !easyubuntu | darius_
[06:47] <ubotu> darius_: easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:47] <Jordan_U_> darius_: You don't need it, but I havn't heard of problems with it like I have with automatix
[06:47] <Cholito> crap, no sound yet...
[06:48] <tich> Jordan_U_, when i uninstalled it removed something else as well but it isn't going to put it back with the reinstall is that okay?
[06:48] <darius_> if not easyubuntu, is there a good wiki page that covers edgy?
[06:48] <Jordan_U_> tich: What isn't it going to put back?
[06:49] <cedriczg> I am trying to compile again my scilab
[06:49] <Jordan_U_> darius_: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:49] <cedriczg> I had to reinstall ubuntu
[06:49] <cedriczg> but now I have this error
[06:49] <cedriczg> configure: error: Unable to configure: no Fortran compiler found
[06:50] <Jordan_U_> !restricted | darius_
[06:50] <ubotu> darius_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:50] <cedriczg> Can anyone tell me the better fortrtand compiler to use? or other solution
[06:50] <Vuen> question, how can i make sudo require the root password instead of my user password? and this information used to be in ubuntuguide, where has it gone?
[06:50] <Vuen> cedriczg: apt-get install gfortran g77
[06:50] <tich_> Jordan_U_, if you responded to my last question i missed it my connection stopped for a coupe of seconds. sorry.
[06:50] <cedriczg> thanx
[06:51] <Jordan_U_> Vuen: In that case you might as whell just enable the root account.
[06:51] <Jordan_U_> tich_: What isn't it going to put back?
[06:52] <cedriczg> Vuen, merci beaucoup
[06:52] <tich_> Jordan_U_, i don't know, i didn't write down what it removed, i thought it was okay
[06:53] <Jordan_U_> tich_: It should be, I just wanted to be sure.
[06:53] <ausimage> Could I get an answer to my query about why bash scripts are being difficult on mounted drives. It worked under dapper.
[06:53] <Vuen> cedriczg: no problem. keep in mind this is two different compilers, one for fortran 95 and one for fortran 77.
[06:53] <Vuen> so make sure you compile with the right one
[06:53] <Jordan_U_> ausimage: Are you using #!/bin/sh at the start?
[06:53] <Caplain_> is there a guide for ethernet bridging in ubuntu?
[06:54] <cedriczg> Vuen, ok. I am trying now again the compilation process...
[06:54] <viikio> waaaaah :((! i was able to play the video after installing flash player 9.... but it wont play again..
[06:54] <DavidCraft> How do you make an instence of X-Server that does NOT output to the screen?
[06:54] <ausimage> Yeah... I am these scripts are liked on a /media/* mounted partition and complain loudly about bad interpreter permission denied
[06:54] <Fallen_Angel> Caplain_ : see this "how to" http://www.howtoforge.org/
[06:54] <Jordan_U_> ausimage: In Edgy /bin/sh != /bin/bash
[06:54] <cedriczg> viikio, flash 9 in lnux?!!
[06:55] <tich_> Jordan_U_,  i tried to enable it again but i still get the same warning.
[06:55] <Daehlie> labs.adobe.com
[06:55] <Jordan_U_> ausimage: Use /bin/bash
[06:55] <Caplain_> Fallen_Angel: ok thx
[06:55] <viikio> yeah.. the guys gave the link to me
[06:55] <ausimage> Jordan_U the same script on /home/* runs no problem
[06:55] <cedriczg> viikio, is it available?
[06:55] <NewcomerXb> Hey everyone. Im having issues with this "cannot detect HAL" thing
[06:55] <joelliot> hi ,,, can grub be installed to root partition with ubuntu 6.10 live cd?
[06:55] <viikio> it's in beta
[06:55] <NewcomerXb> I think its affecting my graphics
[06:55] <floating> how do I know if I have ndiswrapper-utils installed ? I have installed ndiswrapper, but I cvant get it work, and plannin to try older version. uninstallation guide says also to "apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils" and I cant do that
[06:55] <Jordan_U_> tich_: It said your running kernel, so you may need to restart.
[06:56] <genbie> anyone can access http:www.optionsxpresseurope.com with firefox here please?
[06:56] <Jordan_U_> joelliot: Yes.
[06:56] <tich_> Jordan_U_, yeah i give it a shot.
[06:56] <floating> http://www.optionsxpresseurope.com
[06:56] <e_machinist> I'm using Dapper, 6.06, and firefox 2.0 is not in any of my repositories (I have mutli and univ enabled). Is there a backports repository from Edgy or something that I am missing?
[06:56] <Jordan_U_> joelliot: There is an option during the installer to install grub to a different partition.
[06:56] <santeria[FL] > grr linux hates me
[06:56] <genbie> yes floating thanks
[06:57] <floating> can access
[06:57] <joelliot> Jorddan_U  thanks ,,, will give it a try
[06:57] <Jordan_U_> santeria[FL] : Didn't work I guess?
[06:57] <NewcomerXb> Ubuntu isnt mounting my drives right at all. I have to flick off and flick on my external HD suddenly when it lags during bootup
[06:57] <genbie> floating i can't!! can you tell what could possible be wrong?
[06:57] <NewcomerXb> That must have somnething to do with "cant detect HAL"
[06:57] <abes> Hello :]
[06:57] <goose> how do you figure out where a package has installed files?
[06:57] <Daehlie> e_machinist: just dist upgrade if you want firefox 2.0 or build it from source
[06:57] <floating> genbie: no i cant tell :i
[06:57] <NewcomerXb> hello abes
[06:57] <genbie> ok!!
[06:58] <goose> i know synaptic has something but is there a way to do it from command line?
[06:58] <santeria[FL] > ok on the second line: sudo apt-get update it said somehting like ign www.ubuntu.com some file [191b]  and i figured 191 bytes should take less than a second but it just stayed there
[06:58] <abes> Can anyone tell me if thats possible to get my turn off and restart buttons back to the screen that appears after I click on the [( I )]  button?
[06:58] <abes> the turn off button
[06:58] <e_machinist> Daehlie: I will build from source. One Q though: when I do the full upgrade, will this redownload everything, or only whats out of date and new stuff? (Which is probably most everything).
[06:58] <NewcomerXb> So i guess nobody knows :(
[06:59] <abes> i just have log out, lock screen, switch user and hibernate
[06:59] <Daehlie> it will only download what is updated, which is almost every package
[06:59] <genbie> network access issue: happens with all browsers on ubuntu but no problem on windows: anyone can access http://www.optionsxpresseurope.com please?
[06:59] <abes> and also my wi-fi was working properly and just stopped randomly... tried most of the stuff i found online but no luck
[06:59] <e_machinist> Daehlie: yah, that is what I figured. I'll just get an ISO.
[06:59] <tich_> Jordan_U, nvidia didn't load even after the restart. i get the same warning.
[07:00] <abes> genbie: works fine with firefox 2.0
[07:00] <tich_> nothing about this edgy install has been simple
[07:00] <santeria[FL] > tru dat
[07:00] <genbie> abes thanks i get a "Firefox can't find the server at www.optionsxpresseurope.com" error
[07:00] <santeria[FL] > ugh
[07:00] <abes> genbie: hmmm... is it with only that website?
[07:00] <Cholito> still no sound
[07:00] <Daehlie> e_machinist: thats the way to go, i did a dist upgrade, waited 2 hours, when it was done gnome is broken and I end up running the install anyway
[07:00] <genbie> yes abes
[07:01] <Cholito> I have no idea where to look =(
[07:01] <abes> genbie: have you tried pinging that host?
[07:01] <pradeep> Hello, I need help installing ubuntu from iso (without cd rom). I've looked at ubuntu forums, but none seem to helpful.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> tich_: Try asking on #ubuntu-xgl , just tell them you just need help with the drivers and not XGL.
[07:01] <Cholito> amarok still looks like it's playing sound (no error or anything) but nothing comes from the speakers
[07:01] <tich_> Jordan_U, okay thanks
[07:01] <santeria[FL] > anyone got any ideas with my little delimma?
[07:01] <abes> so anyobody? any idea about why there are not turn off and restart options anymroe?
[07:01] <abes> or why would wi-fi randomly stop working
[07:02] <abes> ?
[07:02] <genbie> abes pinging is OK
[07:02] <abes> genbie: do u have firefox 2.0?
[07:02] <santeria[FL] > ok on the second line: sudo apt-get update it said somehting like ign www.ubuntu.com some file [191b]  and i figured 191 bytes should take less than a second but it just stayed there
[07:02] <genbie> yes abes
[07:03] <e_machinist> Daehlie: thanks for your assistance.
[07:03] <pungie> Ok I am back.. I got wifi radar, did iwlist ath0 and got the info.. it connects but with DHCP I get no ip address =(... I try static and I can't even ping teh gateway
[07:03] <Jordan_U> santeria[FL] : It shouldn't have, did any of the files download or did it get stuck on the first?
[07:03] <pradeep> bah ! :/
[07:03] <abes> genbie: hmmm maybe theres something with your dns
[07:03] <santeria[FL] > i think it might have gotten thruough a couple
[07:03] <NewcomerXb> Nobody knows what to do about the "can't detect HAL" thing? Anyone? c.c >.>
[07:03] <genbie> how can i solve that abes plz?!