[00:00] <wish^> well rpm is a bitch so i guess thats good
[00:01] <unit3> haha yeah. sort of my feeling.
[00:01] <unit3> well, current rpm + yum isn't too bad, but dpkg + apt-get is generally nicer.
[00:02] <fallous> I still prefer ports to aptitude, but that's more crotchety old habits instead of anything inherent in the two systems
[00:02] <wish^> apt-get is nice yea
[00:03] <unit3> fallous: yeah, i sort of ditched aptitude these days, i just use apt-get and prevu directly, and don't really miss ports anymore.
[00:03] <unit3> but then again, i'm pretty much not into building packages myself anymore either. too much to do.
[00:04] <unit3> i'd rather just get signed good packages from upstream 99% of the time.
[00:04] <fallous> yeah
[00:05] <unit3> although maybe ports has better selection of binary packages these days? I dunno, I haven't used freebsd for anything serious in ages.
[00:05] <fallous> I never much bothered with binary packages in ports since compiling assured things were built to my system setup and worked pretty much flawlessly
[00:06] <unit3> yeah. that's sort of the ports way of things. it's just not the best for big rollouts. especially when the compiling gets hairy.
[00:07] <unit3> hell, even backporting packages with prevu sometimes gets a little crazy these days. I'm glad there's people upstream working to sort that out for me. :)
[00:07] <unit3> I mostly just have a ton of systems to patch and upgrade, and if upstream has binary packages, then awesome. Ubuntu's good for that. :)
[00:07] <fallous> yeah
[00:11] <jacob__> unit3: hey back again...hoping you might have some other idea why its not working...i unistalled everything related to apache,php,mysql, and only installed bare essentials, apache and the php...still nothing
[00:12] <jacob__> google is also natually unhelpful on the subject
[00:12] <unit3> jacob__: without taking a look at the server, it's hard to say.
[00:12] <unit3> can you put more debugging info into your test file? make it some text, then some php, then some more text, so you can see if it even reads the file or not?
[00:13] <unit3> perhaps you have permission issues.
[00:13] <unit3> as well, I'd suggest *not* setting some random directory in your home dir to your document root. use default settings for everything until you've got the basics working, then make changes one at a time and make sure they don't break anything.
[00:16] <jacob__> kk..will run test and try to get more info to you....i know i'm not giving alot of to go on
[00:22] <jacob__> unit3: information on this isn't very clear....i'm getting this error [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[00:22] <unit3> what's not clear? that's just an informational notice telling you apache shut down at that time.
[00:22] <unit3> it's not an error.
[00:29] <jacob__> unit3: ok maybe now i have some usefull info.....when i go to the default server is list my webpages andd i can click on them they open just fine...but still no php
[00:29] <jacob__> also no error messages
[00:30] <unit3> not sure what you mean by "they open just fine".
[00:31] <jkakar> isg: So, I have a running cloud controller/cluster controller/storage cluster/walrus.  Am installing the node controller now.
[00:31] <jkakar> isg: I forgot to mention earlier that I've been following these instructions: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerECluster http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerENode http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerEConfig
[00:31] <jkakar> isg: I'm on the second one now.
[00:32] <jacob__> sorry....i made a random web page with links to a few other pages added a bunch of text, and a few pictures...all of that works...when i go to the http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ is shows me a index of...then all of my sites info is listed below it as in name, size and descriptions of each
[00:33] <unit3> jacob__: right, so did you try to create a test.php or whatever that had some more content and php in it, like i recommended, to see what happens with it?
[00:36] <jacob__> unit3: wow just realized the walkthrought i had been looking at was stupid....may have solved it
[00:36] <unit3> haha ok
[00:37] <unit3> you're generally best off reading the docs on help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com before looking at generic documentation.
[00:38] <jacob__> lol yea this was  a w3school, they are usually pretty good about it....but sadly didn't fix it
[00:40] <jacob__> and still no errors
[00:40] <unit3> w3school is just for writing web pages, they shouldn't really have any info about apache configuration... and if they do, I suspect it's massively out of date.
[00:40] <unit3> in any case, can you try setting up a test page with more content in it like i suggested?
[00:43] <jacob__> i did that, added a bunch of text, variables for the text...and working on adding a few more things to it atm
[00:44] <unit3> ok, so, you've got some text, some php, and some more txt. can you pastebin the results of "view source" from that?
[00:46] <jacob__> yep give me a sec and i will link it to yo
[00:46] <jacob__> you(
[00:50] <jacob__> unit3: http://pastebin.com/m6f92adc0
[00:53] <unit3> errr... ok, that's the code, and is that the same output you get from the web server, or is it different?
[00:53] <jacob__> lol ignore my comment i figured out why those other two didnt work
[00:53] <unit3> ok...? so it's working now?
[00:55] <unit3> well, good luck, I'm out.
[00:55] <jacob__> ty
[00:57] <wish^> unit3
[00:57] <wish^> ports wins out
[00:57] <wish^> unix ftw
[01:06] <jkakar> Should it take long for a UEC node controller to register with a cluster?
[01:07] <jkakar> I've been following the instructions (http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/), but my node controller doesn't seem to be finding its cluster.
[01:07] <wish^> how long?
[01:11] <jkakar> wish^: 10 minutes?
[01:11] <jkakar> I'll try registering it manually.
[01:11] <wish^> im no expert with ubuntu but it shouldnt take that long
[01:14] <jkakar> Hrm.
[01:14] <jkakar> Even after running euca_conf --register-nodes $IP it still doesn't work.
[01:14] <jkakar> Hmm, key synchronization might be the issue.
[02:32] <mike3> weird issue. when i boot up i don't get the login prompt. I have to hit ctrl+alt+f2
[02:32] <mike3> a different tty or whatever
[02:34] <bogeyd6> mike3, did you check the logs to find the error?
[02:35] <bogeyd6> also, this is a server channel and we assume you didnt install a GUI desktop
[02:38] <mike3> this is ubuntu server
[02:44] <mike3> no errors that i can find
[02:44] <mike3> nothing that shows me why it's just sitting there
[02:53] <usrv> ok ubuntu geniuses, I've got a challenge for you. "/dev/sdc is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!" but it's not mounted or in use
[02:54] <usrv> i'm using ubuntu server
[03:01] <Vanhalt> Hello there !!
[03:03] <Vanhalt> does the ubuntu server edition comes with a GUI packed to install or it must be downloaded ? sorry newbie question
[03:03] <usrv> must be downloaded
[03:04] <Vanhalt> estimated size ? ...
[03:05] <usrv> hmm... not sure
[03:05] <usrv>  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it should tell you how much space
[03:05] <usrv> you'll have the option to continue or not
[03:06] <Vanhalt> mmm ...
[03:06] <Vanhalt> have to try that ..
[03:07] <Vanhalt> 2nd newbie question... Ubuntu cloud it's a local cloud or you have to be connected to the internet ? login in a web or something ?
[03:16] <gQuash> well ... thanks =)
[03:16] <gQuash> going to read the docs
[03:21] <mike3> weird issue. when i boot up i don't get the login prompt. I have to hit ctrl+alt+f2
[03:28] <marks256> How can i return a user's id? I want to be able to (as root) type in "getid bob" and have it return me the UID
[03:32] <marks256> got it. id -u <username>
[04:07] <j416> is acpi-support the right package for 9.10 to enable acpi?
[04:17] <domito> evening
[04:31] <marks256> i tried adding the user "apache" to the sudoers list in the following fassion
[04:31] <marks256> apache  ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd
[04:32] <twb> j416: acpid enables acpi support.  acpi-support-base and acpi-support include some rules which are, generally, Good Things.
[04:32] <marks256> but when i try to run it, it says permission denied
[04:32] <twb> j416: if you only need to power button to trigger shutdown -h now, just get acpi-support-base.
[04:33] <j416> twb: ok! thank you. I only need a way to power down my machine externally (I'm running it inside virtualbox).
[04:33] <j416> so that should be enough then!
[04:35] <marks256> Anyone have any ideas why the user account apache isn't running useradd as root, as it has been instructed to do in /etc/sudoers?
[05:11] <j416> twb: I tried: sudo apt-get install acpi-support-base
[05:11] <j416> and I get: "E: Package acpi-support-base has no installation candidate"
[05:11] <j416> does this mean I have to install the acpi-support package afterall?
[05:12] <twb> j416: maybe it's called something different where you are
[05:13] <j416> where I am?
[05:13] <j416> are package names dependent on .. location?
[05:13] <twb> Bleh, I don't have apt-file(8) on any Ubuntu hosts, and (bleh) ubuntu-server doesn't support the power button by default.
[05:13] <twb> j416: FSVO location = distro and release.
[05:13] <j416> ok
[05:13] <j416> sorry
[05:13] <twb> np
[05:14] <twb> j416: which release are you using?
[05:14] <j416> 9.10 32-bit
[05:14] <j416> there seems to be a package called acpid, I wonder if that will do what I need?
[05:15] <twb> acpid is just the daemon
[05:15] <j416> yeah, seems so.
[05:15] <twb> It needs config files to tell it what to do
[05:15] <j416> need scripts for it eh
[05:16] <j416> I guess I'll just install acpi-support then
[05:17] <twb> Yeah, the main problem with that is that it's so bloody bloated, and it pulls in a heap of useless shite
[05:17] <j416> aah...
[05:17] <twb> j416: ah, it seems that in Ubuntu 9.10, acpid includes acpi-support-base
[05:17] <j416> maybe I can just install acpid and make a config file myself?
[05:17] <j416> oh
[05:17] <j416> cool
[05:17] <j416> I'll try that first then
[05:18] <twb> Because ultimately power button support is these two files: acpid: /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[05:18] <j416> hah it works
[05:18] <twb> apt-file is your friend
[05:18] <j416> yeah :) found that
[05:18] <j416> thanks
[05:19] <j416> The system is going down for halt NOW! Power button pressed
[05:19] <j416> woho
[06:36] <error404notfound> [REPOST from #ubuntu] i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and when i try to build iso i get http://pastebin.com/m64a867e8, any ideas?
[06:36] <twb> error404notfound: ow.
[06:38] <jmarsden> error404notfound: I'd guess the genisoimage command expects to find an hfs.map file and it's not there?
[06:38] <error404notfound> jmarsden, can't say anything, my first experience with building a custom iso
[06:39] <twb> error404notfound: it's much easier to just roll a bootable USB key
[06:39] <jmarsden> And you're doing it for an older Mac... wow... I'd start with customized images for a boring x86 PC if I were you (and I had a boring PC, of course)...
[06:39] <error404notfound> twb, hmmm, thats also fine, i can try that in vbox as well
[06:39] <twb> jmarsden: since he's blessing an HFS partition for PowerPC, I'm guessing NewWorld
[06:41] <error404notfound> jmarsden, me? nope, i am on ubuntu, no hfs stuff, i just copy paste commands from community wiki :)
[06:41] <jmarsden> error404notfound: Then you copied the wrong stuff.
[06:42] <error404notfound> jmarsden, good point, let me get to the other LCD
[06:42] <error404notfound> jmarsden, aah, yes, sorry, dumb me, 4 LCDs are too much for 2 eyes, right?
[06:43] <jmarsden> error404notfound: As a general rule, you will learn more by using man and actually trying to understand the commands you find in any tutorial type page like taht, *before* you try them out.  Especially as root!
[06:44] <error404notfound> jmarsden, aah yes, agree, but i am of the type that learn by doing instead of reading, which doesn't mean that i never read man pages.
[06:44] <jmarsden> Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I simply do not trust random people who create web pages enough to type in commands as root that I do not understand... it is very very dangerous to your system to do that.
[06:45] <andol> jmarsden: Well, copy-n-pastying random commands as root might actually turn into a very learnable leasons :)
[06:45] <error404notfound> jmarsden, you are right, but i am about to format this little thinganyway :)
[06:45] <error404notfound> andol, exactly :)
[06:45] <twb> jmarsden: that's basically your wetware virus protection system
[06:45] <jmarsden> andol: ... lessons in how good your backups are :)
[06:46] <andol> jmarsden: exactly :)
[06:46] <andol> error404notfound: On a more serious note, you really should be listenting to what jmarsden is trying to tell you.
[06:46]  * error404notfound is a sysadmin, and understand this but sometimes i am just fine with "whatever", just see if it works if i have gotta format anwyay :)
[06:47] <error404notfound> andol, i do, i actually never login as root, except when i am using console on servers and recovering data
[06:47] <jmarsden> error404notfound: That's not what your pastebin suggests... :)
[06:48] <error404notfound> jmarsden, this isn't a server and i am not recovering data, but this machine is pretty screwed up already, and its not mine, i was handed this over for a fresh ubuntu install :P
[07:13] <domito> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% is replies get back to the requestor
[07:14] <twb> domito: proxyarp?
[07:14] <domito> proxy_arp did not help
[07:14] <twb> Oops, I don't think that's for bridges.
[07:14] <domito> no that's for nat
[07:15] <domito> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside
[07:15] <domito> very bizarre
[07:15] <domito> been banging my head on it for days
[07:15] <twb> domito: does dmesg say anything?
[07:15] <twb> Have you tried swapping in a different NIC (with a different chipset)?
[07:15] <domito> twb: no, but it is currently full of ebtables logging :)
[07:15] <twb> If it's a shitty old machine, I suppose it could be overloaded
[07:16] <twb> domito: it sounds like you're already at least as competent as I am, so I don't have any other ideas.
[07:16] <domito> twb: no, it's running under ESX ... I have ensured that the vmxnet driver is working and pcnet32 is no longer in the mod stack
[07:17] <domito> twb: it's not old, running 8.04 server
[07:17] <domito> lts
[07:17] <twb> I meant old as in old hardware, but if it's running under ESX then I dunno
[07:17] <domito> anyone ever used parprouted?  would that work?
[07:17] <twb> You should also talk to #vmware, it might just be a known suck with vmware
[07:18] <domito> you really gotta dig for any info on bridging firewalls
[07:18] <domito> ya I may try that channel
[07:18] <twb> FWIW I have OpenVZ hosts on the same 192.168.1/24 as the physical machines, and I remember that I had to turn on proxy arp to make that work.
[07:18] <twb> Because the bridge is at layer 3, not layer 2, if you follow me
[07:18] <domito> I can't really snoop the physical interfaces from the vhost shell, which sucks
[07:19] <twb> domito: get a hub (not a switch) and force everything to promiscuous?
[07:19] <domito> twb: switching is all done via vmware ... it's a virtual switch
[07:19] <twb> Oops, of course
[07:20] <domito> to make matters worse, the co-lo thinks that giving ppl 12 IPs out of a /24 is a good idea, no proper subnetting which would probably have fixed the whole thing
[07:21] <twb> Ah, then the solution is simple!  Switch provider! :-)
[07:21] <domito> working on them to do so
[07:21] <domito> in the meantime I have to give all servers inside the bridge static arp entries to keep the lights on
[07:23] <domito> which brings me here to see if anyone around these parts have done bridging and maybe fixed the same issue
[07:23] <domito> never hurts to ask heh
[07:25] <twb> Not me, sorry.
[07:26] <domito> well thanks for trying, I appreciate it
[08:40] <milestone> hi all
[08:41] <milestone> is it possible to disable a ssh password login for a user and only allow him pubkey authentication? Only for one user though, not server-wide
[08:42] <twb> milestone: if that user is root, yes
[08:43] <twb> milestone: otherwise, I think you can do it by giving that user the "null" password, which will prevent all pam password auth for that user unless they're on a "trusted" tty, as defined by /etc/securetty
[08:43] <twb> You might be able to get that effect by "locking" the account or giving it an invalid password, too -- try it and see.
[08:43] <twb> Note that in either of the latter two approaches, sudo won't work, either.
[08:44] <twb> (Er, assuming you've got sudo configured to prompt for a password.)
[08:53] <milestone> twb: i have setup sudo
[08:53] <milestone> but for this certain account
[08:54] <milestone> with NOPASSWD
[08:54] <milestone> will this work after "locking" the account?
[08:54] <twb> I don't know.
[08:54] <twb> Of course, it would be far simpler to disable sshd's password-based auth outright.
[08:55] <milestone> twb: i know
[08:55] <milestone> but it is a customers machine for whom i do remote services
[08:56] <milestone> he needs password based auth
[08:56] <milestone> i don't
[08:56] <milestone> and i usually disable it on my machines
[08:56] <milestone> for security reasons
[08:57] <soren> milestone: What do you mean by "locking"?
[08:57] <twb> It is a good idea to teach him how to use keys
[08:57] <twb> soren: sticking an "x" or so in /etc/shadow
[08:57] <soren> milestone: If the account is locked such that you can't log into it, it can't get to use sudo anyway.
[09:10] <a_ok> What is the easiest way to migrate an existing 32bit instalation to 64bit?
[09:18] <twb> a_ok: reinstall
[09:19] <a_ok> ok
[09:21] <a_ok> twb: I take it I can install over the existing installation
[09:28] <soren> a_ok: I don't recommend that.
[09:38] <soren> a_ok: I would take the list of installed packages (using dpkg --get-selections), store it in a file, install a 64 bit version of ubuntu, install all the same packages (using dpkg --set-selections < selections.txt ; dselect install), and move all my data (/home, relevant parts of /etc and /var, etc.) to the new system.
[09:40] <da65> Hi, is there a Ubuntu Sever secruity update mail list I can join,
[09:40] <a_ok> soren: Thanks I was thinking the same.
[09:42] <da65> just found it, thanks https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[10:40] <kwork> i cant find dccd from apt, is it included in ubuntus version of dcc ?
[11:08] <da65> anyone know of some open source software I can use on a domain tha will allow people to automatically create an email account from the web browser?
[11:10] <au> da65: citadel groupware I believe
[11:10] <da65> ty, will take a look
[13:23] <zul> morning
[13:25] <szczym> morning, how i could link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mc/+bug/263442 as a Server usability papercut ?
[13:25] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 263442 in mc "mcedit is not longer the default editor" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[13:44] <vish> ttx: hi... could you add https://launchpad.net/bugs/194472 to the server papercuts?
[13:44] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 194472 in sudo "Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback" [Unknown,Fix released]
[13:45] <vish> i brought it up a few days back.. you asked me to remind you when server papercuts were started ;)
[13:45] <ttx> vish: can't you use "Affect project" yourself ?
[13:45] <ttx> and point to "server-papercuts" as the affcetd project ?
[13:45] <vish> ttx: i can , but just wanted to make sure  , if i was allowed :)
[13:46] <ttx> That would track more accurately /who/ proposed it
[13:46]  * vish adding task
[13:46] <ttx> thanks
[13:46] <vish> ty
[13:50] <mathiaz> ttx: hi!
[13:50] <ttx> mathiaz: o/
[13:50] <mathiaz> ttx: should the server team be still subscribed to likewise-open bugs?
[13:50] <ttx> mathiaz: probably not. Let's trade it against python-boto
[13:53] <ttx> mathiaz: I'll stay subscribed to those for a few
[13:53] <mathiaz> ttx: ok. I've swaped likewise-open for python-boto
[13:57] <coffeedude> ttx, mathiaz: I've picked up the two new bugs that will filed against likewise-open.  I'll get a repro in the day hopefully.
[13:58] <ttx> coffeedude: cool, thx
[14:14] <BillyBoy> hi boys need little help, don't know how to start php extensions gd-bundled and imagemagick library.. could someone help me? show me the way?
[14:24] <mathiaz> zul: hi - any reason to sync munin from unstable rather than testing?
[14:24] <zul> mathiaz: upstream prefers us to use the version in unstable
[14:25] <mathiaz> zul: is that the best option given we're targeting an LTS?
[14:25] <zul> mathiaz: i think so
[14:25] <zul> it has a whole bunch of bug fixes as well
[14:25] <zul> and it has all of our changes
[14:53] <smoser> ttx, soren, mathiaz is ubuntu-devel appropriate place for this discusion, rather than a more kernel specific list
[14:53] <ttx> ubuntu-devel is ok
[14:54] <ttx> smoser: you might want to wait until I publish the minutes though, to have some background
[14:54] <ttx> (for free)
[14:55] <smoser> will do
[15:37] <Bullterd> Hey All.
[15:37] <Bullterd> Stupid question time
[15:38] <Bullterd> I have a 8 disc RAID array (RAID 5) - if for whatever reason, power gets cut to like 4 discs
[15:38] <Bullterd> I know the RAID has failed
[15:38] <Bullterd> however, if I think restore power to the 4 discs that lost power, would the RAID come back online?
[15:38] <Bullterd> *if I then
[15:39] <dasunsru1e32> Wrong forum, if the disks come back on, the array should be able to rebuild
[15:39] <Bullterd> would it need to rebuild?
[15:39] <dasunsru1e32> you could suffer data loss though
[15:39] <dasunsru1e32> depends on your adapter
[15:40] <Bullterd> I mean, if you lost 4 discs it couldnt rebuild a RAID 5 array
[15:40] <Bullterd> but then if all the discs came back, surly if I reboote the server it'd recognise the array and chug along?
[15:40] <dasunsru1e32> as long as those disks are readable
[15:40] <dasunsru1e32> it "should" work
[15:40] <Bullterd> k
[15:40] <screen-x> Bullterd: although they probably will be inconsistent
[15:40] <screen-x> too late..
[15:40] <dasunsru1e32> he legt
[15:40] <dasunsru1e32> left
[15:40] <dasunsru1e32> lol
[15:41] <dasunsru1e32> I hope he isn't trying something stupid
[15:41] <dasunsru1e32> lol
[15:41] <dasunsru1e32> sounds like somebody messed up and doesn't know how to fix it
[15:42] <screen-x> Raid failure is a nightmare :(
[15:42] <dasunsru1e32> Yep
[15:42] <domito_> hi folks
[15:42] <screen-x> so use rsnapshot!
[15:42] <dasunsru1e32> backup, and you won't have to worry about it
[15:42] <dasunsru1e32> lol
[15:42] <dasunsru1e32> yep
[15:42] <dasunsru1e32> just replace the disk(s), doesn't rebuild, restore it from a new snapshot
[15:43] <dasunsru1e32> ;-)
[15:52] <smoser> jjohansen, ping
[15:52] <jjohansen> pong
[15:53] <jjohansen> smoser: ^
[15:53] <smoser> do you know how /dev is mounted in the kernel?
[15:53] <smoser> without ramdisk, I still get a 'evtmpfs /dev devtmpfs rw,size=251292k,nr_inodes=62823 0 0'
[15:53] <smoser> mounted
[15:54] <domito_> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% of replies get back to the requestor
[15:54] <smoser> the kernel is doign it, as I verifiy its there by an 'init=' program
[15:54] <domito_> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside
[15:54] <smoser> is it possible that the ec2 kernel is failing to do that devtmpfs mount?
[15:54] <jjohansen> smoser: hrmm, no I don't know how its mounted, I'll need to look into it
[15:55] <jjohansen> smoser: possibly, but I need to figure out what it is doing first
[15:55] <smoser> just looked, on the uec kernel i get a line like:
[15:55] <smoser> [    0.660664] devtmpfs: mounted
[15:56] <smoser> i do not see anything like that in the ec2 kernel's boot log
[15:57] <jjohansen> hrmm, okay I'll poke and see what I can find
[15:57] <jjohansen> smoser: http://lwn.net/Articles/345480/
[16:12] <marks256> I added the user apache to the sudoers file (apache	ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd) to be able to use the command useradd without a password. When i run my command via PHP, it doesn't work. But if i log in as apache, and paste the line into the console, it works. Is something wrong with my sudoers entry?
[16:14] <smoser> jjohansen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/510130
[16:14] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 510130 in upstart "ec2 instance fails to boot if registered without ramdisk" [Undecided,New]
[16:14] <smoser> i think this is related to "# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set"
[16:14] <killaxxl> l
[16:15] <jjohansen> smoser: hrmm, yep.  Will look into it, expect an EC2 update this week
[16:15] <pmatulis> re kvm dhcp-enabled guests, is there any decent way to discover ip addresses (w/o going through the vnc console)?
[16:16] <killaxxl> terminal ifconfig ?
[16:16] <jtrimmer> I might be in the wrong place to ask this question and if so please excuse me.  I have 5 servers at our central office 2 running ubuntu 3 running other flavors.  We have a site2site vpn which connects our remote office into our domain controller and all of our internal resources.  Well my problem is this.  I can ping and connect to every device from the remote office except the ubuntu boxes.
[16:16] <jtrimmer> I've checked iptables and it is flushed and I can ping the box from the central office maches.  Any suggestions what I might check?
[16:16] <smoser> jjohansen, i cant' easily get debug logs without a ramdisk (I'd have to rebundle and upload, which is just time consuming), but at very least its a difference that should be removed.
[16:16] <killaxxl> jtrimmer: ifconfig in console
[16:17] <jjohansen> smoser: yep there are a few other config differences to resolve as well
[16:17] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: do you have access to the DHCP server log?
[16:17] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: nope  :)
[16:18] <Reepicheep> man .. that would be to easy wouldn't it
[16:18] <killaxxl> pmatulis: dig <servername>
[16:18] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: then do you have access to sniff the traffic?
[16:19] <Reepicheep> for instance .. the bridge interface on the KVM machine..
[16:19] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: that's what i tried (tcpdump on the bridge interface) but i have a lot of guests!
[16:19] <Reepicheep> that is assuming that it is on the bridge
[16:19] <jtrimmer> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:c9:fd:9a:d7 / inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS> / inet6 addr: fe80::21e:c9ff:fefd:9ad7/64 Scope:Link / UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1 / RX packets:39168 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 / TX packets:24173 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 / collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[16:19] <jtrimmer> RX bytes:16177505 (15.4 MB)  TX bytes:6110109 (5.8 MB) / Interrupt:16 Memory:f4000000-f4012100
[16:19] <smoser> jjohansen, i assigned that bug to you.
[16:19] <Reepicheep> you should be able to use filter on tcpdump to show you only the DHCP traffic
[16:19] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: i'm working remote right now, usually i would bow down and check the vnc console
[16:20] <marks256> As root, when i type in sudo -u apache /usr/sbin/useradd, i get a permission denied, yet apache is added to the sudoers file, why?
[16:20] <smoser> scream loudly if you object.
[16:20] <jjohansen> smoser: okay
[16:20] <jjohansen> smoser: nope, I need to fix the kernel config
[16:20] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: my b/w seems low b/c i can't x-forward the console
[16:21] <domito_> marks256: it sounds environment related ... processes do not always get the full shell env when running from apache
[16:21] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: yes, i suppose i could try rebooting and checking dhcp traffic
[16:21] <domito_> last time I had this exact same issue tho it was selinux related
[16:21] <marks256> domito_, any ideas on how to fix that?
[16:21] <domito_> might be apparmor if you are using that
[16:22] <domito_> add a wrapper around your call to the shell and trap the error messages might help
[16:22] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: maybe something like "tcpdump -i bridgeinterface port 67 and port 68"
[16:22] <marks256> domito_, i'll have to look into that
[16:23] <domito_> if you are using selinux then check the audit log using audit2why
[16:24] <domito_> create rules with audit2allow
[16:24] <domito_> if you can create a simple script to pump out the env as well as the results of 'sudo -l' it may shed some light
[16:24] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: hell of a way though... rebooting.  thanks
[16:26] <jtrimmer> any thoughts?
[16:29] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: you may need to add -n to make it not resolve IPs and ports
[16:29] <marks256> domito_, well i'm using centos, but selinux is disabled
[16:30] <Reepicheep> also.. I just tried it and by default tcpdump is not decoding the data of the response
[16:30] <jdstrand> marks256, domito_: this should not be apparmor related-- useradd is not confined by apparmor in Ubuntu
[16:30] <jdstrand> you can check /var/log/kern.log to be sure
[16:31] <marks256> jdstrand, i'm using centos *hangs head in shame for being on #ubuntu-server*
[16:31] <domito_> marks256: disabled or permissive?
[16:31] <jdstrand> ah, ok
[16:31] <marks256> domito_, disabled
[16:31] <domito_> ah ok
[16:31] <jdstrand> then it *definitely* isn't apparmor
[16:32] <jdstrand> ;)
[16:32] <marks256> hmm
[16:32] <domito_> then I would check the env
[16:32] <sbeattie> marks256: are you able to to run any commands via sudo -u apache?
[16:32] <marks256> meaning?
[16:32] <marks256> sbeattie, well. that's the thing. i get permission denied when i type in sudo -u apache /usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/dusty -p '$1$r6Gu3ZU/$QpuDJOUcf13xDfPgh724b.' --shell=/bin/bash dusty
[16:33] <marks256> sbeattie, but if i log in as apache, and paste that in (minus the -u apache), it works fine
[16:33] <domito_> what does your sudoers line look like?
[16:33] <domito_> did you specify the path to useradd?
[16:33] <domito_> you may need to use /usr/sbin/useradd* to catch the parms
[16:33] <sbeattie> oh wait, you're trying to run useradd as user apache and not as root; that's surely not going to work, no
[16:34] <marks256> apache	ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd
[16:34] <marks256> domito_, ^
[16:34] <jdstrand> (that sounds kinda scary)
[16:35] <marks256> yeah i know. i've got quite a bit of catches around the command though to keep out as much riffraff as possible
[16:35] <marks256> if all else fails, i'll create a file with the user information in it, and have a cron job run once a minute or so to create the user
[16:36] <domito_> try this
[16:36] <sbeattie> marks256: "sudo -u apache" changes you *to* user apache. useradd still needs to run as root, your sudoer config allows user apache to sudo *to* the root user to run adduser with root's privilege.
[16:36] <domito_> apache ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd*
[16:37] <domito_> or you chould suid useradd, but that would be a bad idea
[16:37] <marks256> sbeattie, aah... you might be on to something there
[16:37] <marks256> domito_, what does the * mean at the end of the line then?
[16:37] <sbeattie> for example, under your config (I think) sudo -u apache sudo useradd [blah...] should work.
[16:38] <marks256> sbeattie, i'll try that quick. when you say under the config, what do you mean? just my command to run?
[16:38] <domito_> marks256: it does not work for all sudo implementations, but it's a wildcard so you can add parameters
[16:38] <marks256> domito_, ok i'll try that
[16:38] <domito_> I have had to add that on a couple boxes, not sure which OS those were offhand tho
[16:39] <sbeattie> under your sudoers config that allows the apache user to sudo to root to run the adduser command.
[16:39] <domito_> sbeattie: I see what you are saying ... not sudo -u apache, apache runs sudo
[16:40] <domito_> so the apache user should not be running "sudo -u apache"
[16:40] <marks256> sbeattie, domito_ right, but i don't understand why i can run my command fine sshed into the apache account, but not from apache its self
[16:41] <marks256> as root i typed in sudo -u apache sudo /usr/sbin/useradd -d /home/dusty -p '$1$r6Gu3ZU/$QpuDJOUcf13xDfPgh724b.' --shell=/bin/bash dusty and it worked
[16:42] <domito_> what does 'sudo -u apache -l' give you?
[16:43] <marks256> that -u and -l cannot be used together :)
[16:43] <domito_> d'oh
[16:43] <sbeattie> marks256: right, in that command you've gone from user root --[sudo -u]--> user apache --[sudo]--> user root where adduser gets run.
[16:44] <marks256> sbeattie, right. that makes sense
[16:45] <marks256> domito_, i logged in as apache and typed in 'sudo -l' here is the output (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd
[16:46] <domito_> and if you run the 'sudo /usr/sbin/useradd ...' in that shell it works?
[16:46] <domito_> not sudo -u apache mind you, it already knows it's apache
[16:47] <marks256> Correct.
[16:48] <smoser> jjohansen, so how do would you  bypass CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_2=y, if you didn't like it?
[16:48] <smoser> (ie, if it was buggy for your hardware)
[16:48] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: using tcpdump with the -X flag and increasing the snaplenth will show you the data.. but you will have to decode the IP address returned by hand..
[16:49] <domito_> ok then my previous advise stands, change your script to capture the environment and full output and then see what it shows you
[16:49] <jjohansen> smoser: hrmm give me a minute need to look up how to do it again
[16:49] <marks256> domito_, i do have it returning all output. There is no return.
[16:49] <Reepicheep> pmatulis: but I just tried an app called dnstop.. it decode it.. if you have a lot of dns traffic you will just need to figure out which one it is
[16:50] <resno> question, im thinking about running ubuntu server as my router. on this server i am storing backups of my machines, pictures, etc. is there anything i should keep my stuff safe?
[16:51] <domito_> marks256: does it return the `env` command output?  if not, can you redirect the output to a file?
[16:52] <domito_> resno: if it's connected to the internet then it's not safe period
[16:52] <domito_> you can lock them down by permissions etc but a root sploit will still give someone access
[16:52] <marks256> domito_, yes. env returns values
[16:52] <domito_> if you want them safe find a network nas appliance or something
[16:53] <domito_> marks256: are the env the same as when you are in a shell?
[16:53] <resno> domito_: so just forget about running the server and use the router instead?
[16:53] <resno> server within the home netowkr isntead of outside it
[16:53] <paulus68> are there any known issues concerning nfs-server in server 9.10?
[16:54] <marks256> domito_, no. There is much less returned from the php vs the shell
[16:56] <pmatulis> Reepicheep: thanks for the info
[16:58] <marks256> domito_, essentially the only thing that the php script returns for env is path and TERM. the shell returns hostname, term, shell, user, and a bunch of other stuff
[16:58] <domito_> and user = apache?
[16:59] <domito_> is there anything in your apache error_log?
[16:59] <marks256> domito_, in the shell, yes, from the script, user doesn't exist
[17:00] <domito_> then capture `echo $USER` in the script
[17:00] <domito_> silly question, but your httpd is running as apache right?  not running as nobody or another user?
[17:01] <marks256> domito_, you know... that is a VERY good question!
[17:01] <marks256> domito_, it should be...
[17:01] <domito_> ps aux|grep httpd
[17:02] <marks256> domito_, yes apache
[17:02] <marks256> domito_, echo $USER in the script returns nothing
[17:02] <domito_> ok, good to clear that possibility anyways :)
[17:02] <domito_> that's very strange
[17:02] <marks256> domito_, whoami returns apache though
[17:02] <domito_> ok
[17:02] <domito_> do you get any output from `sudo -l`?
[17:03] <jjohansen> smoser: sym53c8xx.blacklist=true at the root prompt might do it /me has to test yet
[17:03] <domito_> does sudo need the $USER to work?  perhaps you need to force the variable in your script?
[17:03] <marks256> domito_, no output from sudo -l...
[17:03] <marks256> domito_, that's what i was just thinking...
[17:04] <marks256> domito_, export $USER = "apache" right?
[17:04] <smoser> jjohansen, i assumed such things only hinted to userspace to populate modules.blacklist (or respond similarly) and tha tthey didnt' work for builtin
[17:05] <domito_> marks256: that's right
[17:05] <domito_> or you could `USER=apache /usr/sbin/sudo ....`
[17:06] <jjohansen> smoser: maybe I am not sure about .blacklist I need to look at it more
[17:06] <marks256> domito_, aah. no $ on the export command
[17:07] <domito_> d'oh!  right you are
[17:07] <domito_> was up all night banging my head againt a bridge
[17:07] <domito_> speaking of which ...
[17:07] <domito_> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% of replies get back to the requestor
[17:08] <domito_> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside
[17:08]  * domito_ has been fighting this for a week now ... someone please hit me with some ideas :)
[17:08] <marks256> domito_, hmm... setting $USER to 'apache' doesn't do squat. export USER='apache'; echo $USER returned nothing
[17:09] <domito_> dam
[17:09] <marks256> domito_, well. this idea clearly bad, so i think i'll just do that cron job. Bit extra work, but more likely to actually work :)
[17:09] <marks256> domito_, thanks for the help though!
[17:10] <domito_> for what it was ... you may also have luck calling a different script from php, which is a wrapper for useradd that has a !#/bin/bash
[17:10] <bogeyd6> how can you make the system information shown on the first login of a system after install show everytime you login to the console?
[17:10] <domito_> which may help populate the env
[17:10] <domito_> bogeyd6: /etc/motd
[17:11] <marks256> domito_, ok. i'll give that a go. i've already got a wrapper written, so maybe it'll work.
[17:11] <bogeyd6> domito, think along these lines http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202331
[17:12] <marks256> domito_, although the reason i was running the adduser from the php directly is because i had no luck wiht my wrapper either.
[17:13] <bogeyd6> domito, enough googling reveals this http://joshmoles.com/2009/01/21/supercharge-the-ubuntu-motd/
[17:15] <jeremydei> hi guys, I am sortof fighting with this mysqld_safe bug, on ubuntu hardy server.  it seems rather well known, was wondering if anyone here had any advise on how to fix it in a scriptable fashion ..
[17:16] <jeremydei> basically, you install mysql-server-5.0, then the next time you restart mysqld_safe is runaway consuming 100%cpu
[17:16] <jeremydei> found a ton of bug reports on this, but no real resolution!
[17:26] <domito_> list
[17:26] <domito_> d'oh
[17:27] <domito_> bogeyd6: cool
[17:40] <zul> http://gregdekspeaks.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/announcing-the-fedora-cloud-sig/
[17:55] <mealstrom> \clear
[17:55] <mealstrom> oops
[17:56] <tjaalton> mathiaz: hey, I couldn't resist to try the new sssd. there's a problem though; error: /usr/lib/sssd/libsss_krb5.so: undefined symbol: krb5_cc_retrieve_cred
[17:56] <tjaalton> so the krb provider doesn't work
[17:57] <tjaalton> ldd libsss_krb5.so looks wrong
[17:59] <tjaalton> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/359648/
[18:19] <domito_> anyone know how I can capture just packet fragments in tcpdump/tshark?
[18:26] <Lns> Hi everyone
[18:26] <Lns> I'm coming from the Edubuntu / LTSP community here, decided to add #ubuntu-server to my idle chan list ;)
[18:27] <au> :)
[18:28] <unit3> heya
[18:28] <Lns> Sounds like it'd be a good idea since most LTSP and a lot of Edubuntu installs are multi-user and require some heavy lifting (not to mention some good tools for admin)
[18:31] <unit3> makes sense.
[18:32] <Lns> Has anyone got any opinion on a good LDAP setup/admin GUI?
[18:32] <Lns> We've been struggling to come up with something for the longest time.
[18:34] <unit3> 389 (was fedora) directory server looks nice, but the Ubuntu packaging seems to have stalled, so you'd probably have to run it on CentOS or Fedora.
[18:35] <unit3> alternatively (and better in the long run) would be to poke at the 389 packaging team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-389-directory-server)
[18:35] <unit3> and get them to update their packages.
[18:35] <unit3> ;)
[18:35] <unit3> hell, help them out. I'm sure it's just a matter of manpower, really.
[18:39] <Lns> unit3: thank you! That's some good info
[18:39] <unit3> no problem. i'd like there to be a decent, graphically managed directory server OOTB in Ubuntu too.
[18:39] <unit3> it'd certainly make my life easier. :)
[18:39] <kaffien> how can i edit my network settings from the console?
[18:40] <domito_> kaffien: ifconfig
[18:40] <domito_> what do you need to edit?
[18:40] <unit3> kaffien: look in the /etc/network directory.
[18:40] <unit3> interfaces has a man page.
[18:40] <kaffien> ip address and host name
[18:40] <unit3> /etc/hostname too then.
[18:40] <Lns> unit3: indeed. =)
[18:40] <kaffien> kk
[18:41] <unit3> kaffien: if you change the hostname, you'll likely have to doublecheck /etc/hosts as well, to make sure your ip in there matches the new hostname.
[18:43] <kaffien> yep
[18:43] <kaffien> the problem is this is a duped VM.  it almost looks like it booted up without an eth0 device
[18:44] <unit3> that'd be weird. oh, but it might have!
[18:44] <kaffien> perhaps another reboot with a different host name will help things along
[18:44] <unit3> because udev assigns eth names based on mac address.
[18:44] <unit3> if you cloned the hd, it's likely got a different mac assigned, and so that interface would become eth1.
[18:44] <unit3> check output of "ifconfig -a" and see if it's there.
[18:44] <unit3> if it's there as eth1, I can tell you how to correct that.
[18:57] <domito_> Any experts on bridging/transparent firewalls here?  I have an odd issue which is that arp from the inside segment gets out, but only about 33% of replies get back to the requestor
[18:57] <domito_> the traffic coming back hits the eth0 and the br0, but not all get to eth1 on the inside
[18:58] <domito_> ubuntu-server 8.04 btw
[19:01] <kaffien> vmware tools was botched due to kernel upgrade ... silly me.
[19:02] <kaffien> it's been far to long since i got my 'hands dirty'.
[19:02] <kaffien> ah well at lest its not gentoo
[19:03] <kaffien> I know it's not exactly a good idea but i need an older version of mysql  is it as simple as removing 5.0 and apt-get mysql-4.x ?
[19:03] <kaffien> apt-get install mysql-4.x that is.
[19:05] <unit3> kaffien: no, it's probably been dropped from the repos for the current releases. however, you should be able to grab and install from packages.ubuntu.com.
[19:06] <kaffien> hopefully the dependacy list isn't to large
[19:07] <kaffien> 5.0 upgraded some of the calls which basically screwed over our old CRM.
[19:07] <kaffien> so we had to switch back to our ancient server that likes to die whenever it feelsl ike it
[19:11] <unit3> kaffien: yeah, it'll be an old package, depending on old libs, so as long as it doesn't conflict with new ones, you should be alright.
[19:11] <unit3> also, you could use prevu on the .dsc and forward-port it.
[19:11] <unit3> if deps are a problem, anyway.
[19:22] <mathiaz> tjaalton: thanks - I've filed bug 510295
[19:22] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 510295 in sssd "/usr/lib/sssd/libsss_krb5.so: undefined symbol: krb5_cc_retrieve_cred" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510295
[19:23] <tjaalton> mathiaz: heh, and I filed 510290 :)
[19:23] <tjaalton> mathiaz: sgallach has an idea about it.. I'll keep you posted
[19:24] <mathiaz> tjaalton: great - seems like things are looked at
[19:24] <mathiaz> tjaalton: I'll mark my bug a duplicate
[19:24] <tjaalton> mathiaz: ok, cool
[19:32] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #510299 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/510299
[19:34] <tjaalton> mathiaz: seems to be a tarball bug, fedora builds it with -lkrb5 which shouldn't be necessary
[20:20] <technicallyrite> Hello all, any of you running Jeos in a production environment?
[20:20] <technicallyrite> It's been merged into server now, have been experimenting with it here.
[20:26] <Aison> can I put ubuntu onto an SD-Card and install from there?
[20:26] <RoyK> sure
[20:27] <RoyK> I've got an usb plug for that
[20:27] <unit3> Aison: you can as long as your system will boot off SD.
[20:27] <Aison> i'm not ;) i've got only a sd card slot^^
[20:28] <RoyK> Aison: you can install on an sd card just as you can install on a spinning drive
[20:29] <Aison> I don't want to install it on an sd card, I would like to install it FROM an sd card ;)
[20:29] <Aison> so I need to copy the install cd to the sd card
[20:29] <unit3> Aison: yeah, the default tools to make bootable usb keys should work just as well for an SD card.
[20:29] <unit3> but you'll have to make sure your system boots off SD.
[20:29] <Aison> ok
[20:29] <Aison> I guess that works
[20:30] <unit3> should, yeah.
[20:36] <technicallyrite> Jeos, anyone?
[20:40] <Aison> the howto says, that I have to use usbcreator on linux, to create the bootable usbstick
[20:40] <Aison> but where can I get this tool on non-ubuntu linux platform? ^^
[20:40] <Aison> I mounted the ISO file and there's a usbcreator.exe for windows ;) that's not really a help
[20:40] <RoyK> technicallyrite: I've been running jeos in production, yes
[20:40] <RoyK> same thing as the not-so-stripped-down version
[20:41] <unit3> Aison: there's other tools that run on other variants, like unetbootin or whatever.
[20:41] <unit3> they're slightly more work, but they'll do the job.
[20:47] <technicallyrite> royk: sweet, thanks. I'm assuming you like it, did you add much other than your app dependencies?
[20:47] <RoyK> no
[20:47] <RoyK> and shortly after, I switched back to standard ubuntu server, since it's not really very big anyway
[21:01] <marks256> what is the command to return the full path of the current directory?
[21:04] <kaffien> can i remove JUST the mysql-common package?
[21:04] <kaffien> when i try it tries to remove like 175 packages
[21:07] <kaffien> wierdness
[21:07] <technicallyrite> marks256: pwd?
[21:07] <kaffien> i remove it and it takes kde with it
[21:08] <technicallyrite> kaffien: perhaps kde came with it or vice-versa, try reinstalling kde after mysql-common is gone.
[21:10] <kaffien> so i did it (removed it) then i went to install php5 and it wants mysql-common
[21:10] <kaffien> lol
[21:11] <kaffien> i might not be able to get away with using mysql 4.1
[21:12] <unit3> Maybe not.
[21:14] <kaffien> hrrrm
[21:14] <kaffien> i have remove all the mysql packages that i can figure
[21:14] <kaffien> then i tried dpkg -i mysql 4.1 and its spouting about an upgrade still
[21:25] <kaffien> i wonder if i would be able to use hard haron for this
[21:25] <kaffien> i should be able to downgrade mysql  as it would still be the hardy repositories in theory
[21:37] <unit3> well, use packages.ubuntu.com and check to see if it's in hardy still.
[21:38] <kaffien> its in dapper for sure
[21:38] <kaffien> cant seem to find it in hardy
[21:53] <BeardedChimp> I have ubuntu-server installed on a mac-mini. Occasionally on boot grub appears and without a timeout. This results in a non-booting server. Massive problem and I really don't know how to sort it with grub2
[21:53] <BeardedChimp> Its running ubuntu server 9.10
[22:03] <nuckable> hey everyone, i'm having problems compiling drivers for my nic (which is messing around)
[22:03] <nuckable> when doing "sudo make all" i get "no rule to make kernel/bounds.c"
[22:03] <nuckable> and i can't seem to get the proper kernel source =/
[22:03] <nuckable> i tried following these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047374
[22:06] <nuckable> but when i did "sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.31-17-server.tar.bz" it told me that file couldn't be opened because it couldn't be found (sorry am translating from german)
[22:14] <frenzy_usa> has anyone run QuickBooks in a virtual machine?
[22:15] <BeardedChimp> Ok, I found a work around to my problem but I tried something similar earlier today, and upon doing update-grub it resulted in just grub with a flashing _ after rebooting. It required reinstalling grub from a cd. I want to avoid that but I dont know how
[22:18] <Lns> frenzy_usa: yes
[22:20] <frenzy_usa> Lns: What vm program are you using? VirtualBox, VMware, other?
[22:20] <Lns> frenzy_usa: vmware server
[22:20] <Lns> It works fine for a single person using it....
[22:22] <frenzy_usa> Lns: Planning on installing the QB database server and start testing tomorrow for multi-user
[22:22] <Lns> frenzy_usa: i'm sorry :(
[22:22]  * Lns has had nothing but major issues w/qb database server
[22:22] <Lns> (not on my own install, but one of my clients)
[22:23] <frenzy_usa> Single user didn't give me any trouble so I'm gonna hope multi-user will behave as well.
[22:25] <Lns> uh huh... ;)
[22:27] <Aison> ach, now I managed to get ubuntu netinstall cd to run from USB stick, but now, my networkdevice AR8132 is not detected ;)
[22:27] <nuckable> *sigh*
[22:27] <nuckable> does really nobody have a clue?
[22:28] <unit3> nuckable: why are you compiling drivers, what kind of NIC do you have?
[22:29] <nuckable> it's an asus nx1101
[22:29] <nuckable> and it's jerking around if load is put on it
[22:29] <nuckable> so i'm hoping the official drivers might fix that, otherwise i'd have to send it back =/
[22:30] <nuckable> i got the latest version and the README just tells me to make all
[22:30] <unit3> not helpful.
[22:30] <nuckable> but it keeps complaining about having "no rule to make kernel/bounds.s
[22:30] <nuckable> i mean kernel/bounds.c
[22:30] <unit3> you've got the kernel headers package for your kernel installed, right?
[22:30] <nuckable> yup
[22:30] <nuckable> and the build-essentials
[22:30] <nuckable> and the linux-source
[22:31] <nuckable> apt-get installed them all
[22:31] <unit3> well then, I suspect their build scripts just suck.
[22:31] <mealstrom> hi, I've got some problems with pptpd server. I've managed to set up with static ip's in chap-secrets and some dynamic pool.  Works fine. client gets IP from chap secrets, but (!!!)  I don't know how can I kill that connection (pppX).
[22:31] <mealstrom> ps ax | grep ppp shows ip from dynamic pool, not static.
[22:31] <mealstrom>  (ubuntu 9.10_amd_x64)
[22:31] <unit3> can you tell me what nic it says you have in lspci?
[22:33] <nuckable> unit3, theres 2
[22:33] <nuckable> not sure which one is this one
[22:33] <nuckable> one is "01:05.0 Ethernet controller: Sundance Technology Inc / IC Plus Corp IP1000 Family Gigabit Ethernet (rev 41)"
[22:34] <nuckable> the other is "04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)"
[22:34] <unit3> well, the realtek one will be well supported in-kernel, so it's probably the weird sundance one. I see a lot of problems listed with that one online.
[22:35] <nuckable> *sigh*
[22:35] <unit3> yeah.
[22:36] <nuckable> the other problem i run into is that i'm using the german version of ubuntu, so i'm not always 100% how to translate stuff to get more info =/
[22:36] <unit3> ahhhh...
[22:36] <nuckable> looks like asus really sucks at network devices
[22:36] <unit3> yep, I think they do.
[22:36] <unit3> i've avoided the eee stuff since other netbook options came out, because of that.
[22:41] <unit3> Is Ubuntu's lvm built without support for locking type 3 (internal clustered locking)?
[22:41] <unit3> it doesn't seem to be working here.
[22:46] <nuckable> unit3, sorry was that question for me?
[22:48] <nuckable> *sigh* well good night people, off to bed =/
[22:48] <unit3> no, that was just a general question for the channel. ;)
[22:48] <unit3> later.
[22:49] <mealstrom> who works with pptpd server on ubuntu for windows clients ?
[22:51] <killaxxl> goes any one know of samba sharing with xbox360
[22:51] <unit3> mealstrom: probably not most people in here. given its history of security problems as a protocol, most people tend towards things like openvpn these days, or ipsec if you're getting fancy. ;)
[22:51] <unit3> killaxxl: no, 360 only supports a upnp server, not samba. There's a supported on in Ubuntu though.
[22:52] <unit3> as long as your files are in the right format, anyway.
[22:52] <unit3> ushare is the one. it has a 360 compatibility option, and I've used it recently.
[22:52] <alex_joni> mealstrom: why are you asking?
[22:52] <unit3> aleks: he's having trouble with his pptp setup, he posted above.
[22:52] <mealstrom> in chap-secrets I put static ips for users
[22:53] <killaxxl> thx, i'll look into it
[22:53] <mealstrom> and set one dynamic ip range
[22:53] <mealstrom> and when user conencts with static ip -- it takes that ip ,  but in ps ax | grep ppp --- it has ip from dynamic range
[22:53] <unit3> killaxxl: note that it won't convert media, so it'll only work if your files are in formats the 360 already understands.
[22:54] <alex_joni> hmm I only used dynamic ip's
[22:55] <mealstrom> I don't know how to kill user by his login or static ip :(
[22:55] <alex_joni> you should have a process for each connection
[22:56] <mealstrom> yes. I've got pppX for each connection
[22:56] <alex_joni> I get this:  /usr/sbin/pppd local file /etc/ppp/pptpd-options 115200 <IP_ADDRESS>:<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:56] <mealstrom> /usr/sbin/pppd local file /etc/ppp/pptpd-options 115200 <IP_ADDRESS>:<IP_ADDRESS> ipparam <IP_ADDRESS> plugin /usr/lib/pptpd/pptpd-logwtmp.so pptpd-original-ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <mealstrom> ppp1      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
[22:57] <mealstrom>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  P-t-P:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <mealstrom> ppp1 from ifconfig
[22:57] <alex_joni> yeah, figured asmuch
[22:58] <mealstrom> there is different ip's <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> | 21 is from dynamic range / 25 from static
[23:00] <mealstrom> and I cannt take login parameter for ip-up script :(
[23:00] <mealstrom> hmmm
[23:00] <unit3> hrm... what are the potential problems with using lvm on a shared device without using clvm (since it's a POS that won't stay working without dying for more than a week)
[23:01] <unit3> presumably after doing a change on one machine, I'd need to rescan things on the other.
[23:01] <unit3> and it won't coordinate locking between them, so I'd have to be careful about accessing resources.
[23:01] <unit3> other than that...?
[23:06] <alex_joni> mealstrom: maybe you can cause pptpd or pppd to dump the username to syslog
[23:06] <alex_joni> you have the ip and process number there
[23:06] <mealstrom> it is possible to connect interface to users ip address in ip-up script.
[23:07] <alex_joni> mealstrom: I also notice my pptpd is configure to log users to wtmp
[23:08] <mealstrom> ifconfig pppX down doesn't disconnect user :(
[23:08] <alex_joni> no, but tail/whatever syslog | grep pppX -> find the process and kill it surely will
[23:09] <alex_joni> you could just record the pid of ppp into a /foo/%U file
[23:29] <genii> I'd like to replace the default shell for certain users who ssh in to something like: script -aqf /var/log/theirname     ... seems problemmatic however. Any other kind of solution like this?


[00:22] <bjsnider> graingert, on which site?
[00:22] <graingert> bjsnider: all
[00:22] <graingert> bjsnider: firefox is complaining not the sites
[00:23] <graingert> claims there is a security update
[00:23] <bjsnider> hm, not here
[00:26] <graingert> damn
[00:26] <graingert> oh well
[00:26] <graingert> night night
[00:29] <opti> so i found a rather outside the box way to get past the installer hanging
[00:30] <opti> dd'd zero over the front of the btrfs disks after backing them up, works fine
[00:30] <opti> so partman hates btrfs, it seems
[00:48] <bjsnider> you might have mentioned earlier that your root was going to be btrfs
[01:01] <opti> the root isnt btrfs
[01:01] <opti> i just have 3 'data' drives in there and a single ext4 system drive
[01:02] <opti> oh well, it installed anyway.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, So I see no LXC in that update, why are you running in root?
[03:29] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Because LXC was up to date, kernel needed update.
[03:30] <Rallias> OH. Because the DC installed it that way, never really bothered to change that.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, I don't understand your abbreviations, not LXC, some one will help though. ;)
[03:32] <Rallias> Lines 59-63 indicate LXC containers.
[03:32] <Rallias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5651221/ <- The update. My question is how to get grub-update to not detect those additional LXC containers as bootable OS's.
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, Ah, yes it does, removing from grub is easy by removing the os-prober if not dual booting, not sure if that will hide it from a update probably.
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, just apt-get remove os-prober that is the OS search part of grub and run a grub-update.
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> if you are not booting anything but one OS.
[03:37] <Noize> Does anyone know how to burn DVD's to Raring? and watch them(via dvd)
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> Noize, brasero will burn, add the restricted extras for the desktop you have, vlc has many codecs already.
[03:39] <Noize> where is the restricted extras located?
[03:40] <Noize> nvm found
[03:40] <Noize> thank you wilee-nilee
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> Noize, in a terminal or the ubuntu software center look for ubuntu-restricted-extras if ubuntu if another desktop like lubuntu or xubuntu or kubuntu sub them
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> cool
[04:43] <Noize> I still cant get vlc or media player to play my dvd
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Noize, what is the dvd of?
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> use my nick so I know when you answer, I am multitasking at the moment. ;)
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> Noize, here are two additional codecs beyond the restricted, this should get it to play if playable. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> I guess these are part of the restricted, check though.
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> Noize, here is medibuntu the w32codecs are usefull https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[08:49] <luissk8> hi! my tiny new gdm doesnt wanna let me login. only the curtain background and no login dialog. hapens in few machines. already did apt-get upgrade. still no dialog
[08:49] <luissk8> any1 is havin this problem?
[08:51] <luissk8> ofc trying new Raring Ringtail
[08:57] <luissk8> helooooooo? any1 heeerrre?
[08:57] <luissk8> i tryed installing lightdm (beacuse i  made fresh install) and it worked
[08:57] <luissk8> but supposely gdm should work, right?
[11:09] <elky> oh my, inkscape is horribly broken
[12:04] <nullby7e> how days to a new release
[12:15] <nullby7e> no one is online>
[12:15] <nullby7e> ?
[12:15] <k1l_> Bauer: would you mind taking a look at your connection?
[12:15] <smartboyhw> nullby7e, should be released on the 18th/25th April can't remember
[12:15] <k1l_> nullby7e: exact date is in the release schedule
[12:20] <nullby7e> smartboyhw: intersting, thanx
[12:36] <DJones> Can somebody assist with no sound after upgrading, clicking the speak icon shows sound at 0, going to system settings -> sound & output tab shows no devices list to play sound through, lspci shows 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[12:37] <DJones> I'm using 64bit
[12:38] <DJones> Running pulseaudio gives pulseaudio: error while loading shared libraries: libpulsecommon-2.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:49] <DJones> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav plays sound however
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:20] <lschuetze> Hey. Since they revamped Gwibber with QML, is there any meta bug or launchpad entry or anything else about other 'core' applications (like IMs) that will get revamped or where help is appreciated?
[13:42] <DJones> Has anybody had issue accessing Software & Updates in System settings, I click on it & the icon highlights & then does nothing
[13:43] <DJones> I'm not able to get to Repositories via Synaptic or software center
[13:53] <thebishop> 13.04 is looking like a slick release
[13:53] <thebishop> hybrid graphics remain a big problem
[14:01] <thebishop> i've noticed certain apps don't work properly with unity's launcher anymore. X-Chat and Pidgin dont show the little ">" marker that denotes a running app
[14:27] <abhi_> hello
[14:29] <abhi_> i want to install ubuntu 13.04 beta
[14:29] <abhi_> but it's not yet in my local mirror
[14:30] <abhi_> if i want to install and use it, which mirror i should choose?
[14:37] <bjsnider> i could have told you, but you didn't wait
[14:42] <thebishop> what difference does it make?
[14:42] <thebishop> if you get a fast download...
[14:43] <thebishop> all the UI tweaks are nice.  I really like that you can install an app from Super+A without launching the software center
[14:43] <thebishop> i was hoping the "Client 101 refused switch" with hybrid graphics would be fixed, but i still get that on my laptop
[14:48] <thebishop> pidgin and xchat don't show up in the alt-tab menu when they're running
[14:50] <k1l> xchat does for me
[14:51] <k1l> maybe its on another workspace
[14:51] <graingert> what happned to pdfedit?
[14:52] <graingert> it's been dropped from the 13.04 repositories?
[14:55] <k1l> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfedit maybe its just not packed for raring so far?
[14:55] <k1l> you can make a wishlist
[14:56] <graingert> bjsnider: it seems like it's not needing a security update anymore. Must have been transient
[14:56] <thebishop> k1l, i didn't even have workspaces enabled
[14:56] <graingert> k1l: how do I make a wishlist?
[14:56] <graingert> item
[14:59] <bjsnider> graingert, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfedit/+bug/1060230/comments/1
[15:00] <graingert> bjsnider: oh noes
[15:01] <graingert> bjsnider: that was a really handy project, shame it's basically dead now
[15:02] <bjsnider> the bug is still open. apparently it hasn't been converted to qt4: http://pdfedit.petricek.net/bt/view.php?id=318
[15:03] <graingert> bjsnider: last update " 02-11-11 18:44"
[15:08] <bjsnider> just looking at the source code it's basically dead
[15:08] <bjsnider> they managed it in cvs
[15:08] <bjsnider> website contains numerous spelling mistakes
[15:10] <graingert> yeah, shame it was the only app that can do what it did, bjsnider
[15:11] <bjsnider> wel, maybe you should fork it
[15:15] <graingert> bjsnider: :p
[15:15] <graingert> I'm not a qt3/qt4 expert
[15:17] <bjsnider> you could ask folks who are to help you
[15:51] <gennro> Hello
[15:52] <gennro> Having an issue with Kubuntu 13.04 Beta1 hanging on install
[16:13] <agrester> Hello room, just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04 and I'm loving it.  Just wondering how do I remove the Ubuntu One Indicator Applet in the panel?
[16:47] <taha> I've got a question: date/time on unity panel seems to be missing on my 13.04 beta desktop.
[16:52] <k1l> taha: did you dist-upgrade today?
[16:52] <taha> yes I did.
[16:53] <k1l> there was/is a package depencie that wants to remove that
[16:54] <k1l> but its solved now. just reinstall indicator-datetime
[16:55] <taha> I see. thanks a lot.
[16:56] <taha> got it back..
[16:57] <k1l> as a hint: apt-get tells you if it wants to remove smth. just watch out for that and maybe just run a apt-get upgrade instead
[16:59] <thebishop> i can't put my finger on it, but the screen looks more vibrant in 13.04.  driver change?  better color profiling?
[17:00] <bazhang> better drivers?
[17:01] <thebishop> i'm wondering
[17:01] <taha> this was the first time I did a dist-upgrade since it said there were some packages unable to get updated or smt.
[17:32] <designbybeck> I can't use Disks to format USB's  I think I messed up. Was using "dd" and I tried Gdiskdump.... Here is the error from Disks when I tried to format/delete the partition: http://www.pasteall.org/40841
[17:40] <min|dvir|us> Hi. There is a severe problem with SNA on my machine -- it only works with UXA. Any thoughts?
[18:02] <bjsnider> min|dvir|us, which chip is it? is it snb or ivb or older?
[18:34] <bekks> Whats "SNA" and whats "UXA"?
[18:47] <johnjohn101> going to be a long 4 weeks waiting for this to be released. then off to new worlds.
[18:50] <bazhang> 25th is the official release date then?
[18:51] <min|dvir|us> bjsnider: sorry?
[18:51] <min|dvir|us> It's a Sandy Bridge.
[18:51] <min|dvir|us> 2500K.
[18:51] <min|dvir|us> i5.
[18:52] <min|dvir|us> bekks: they're different rendering modes for Intel cards.
[18:54] <johnjohn101> just wondering if intel or amd or nvidia will be better supported with the next changes
[19:15] <bjsnider> min|dvir|us, i'd look for open bugs and mention it in #ubuntu-x
[19:15] <min|dvir|us> OK, thanks.
[19:25] <palasso> I read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#QuantalQuetzal.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Secure_Boot
[19:25] <palasso> Is Kubuntu 13.04 going to support secure boot?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> palasso, The shim is already in.
[19:26] <palasso> ok thnx :)
[19:28] <johnjohn101> is that secure boot fix going to be backported?
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, It is part of a grub release.
[21:02] <luissk8> hello. need help with Raring Ringtail 3.8.0-13
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> luissk8, Stating you problem is part of the deal. ;)
[21:10] <min|dvir|us> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1161112 ?
[21:10] <luissk8> ok!
[21:11] <luissk8> fresh install, all goes well. even cripted hd. and when the time comes for the login dialog, nothing happens, just the curtain blue screen
[21:11] <luissk8> i realized  that the problem was with gdm so i installed lightdm and i can login normally
[21:12] <luissk8> i already did apt-get update/apgrade and still the same problem
[21:22] <luissk8> wilee-nilee: any idea? i was wondering that since this is a beta version, developers are blocking access to the new window-manager. but thats just evil
[21:25] <yofel> tried looking at the gdm logs? Maybe it's just a bug
[21:28] <luissk8> yofel: nope. can you tell me where are those located? or u meen dmsg?
[21:29] <luissk8> yofel: var log gdm, right?
[21:29] <yofel> probably, haven't used gdm myself in ages. Maybe syslog has something too
[21:30] <luissk8> yofel: so you are using lightdm?
[21:30] <yofel> yes
[21:40] <luissk8> I have 3 sets of logs: 0.log, 0-greeter.log, and 0-slave.log. all goes well with 0.log but in the others i get the folowing errors:
[21:40] <luissk8> 0-slave.log: gdm-simple-slave[2303]: WARNING: Failed to give slave programs access to the display. Trying to proceed.
[21:42] <luissk8> 0-greeter:  JS LOG: IBus version is too old
[21:43] <luissk8> its dificult for you guys to find out what whent wrong here like this. where can i send this report?
[21:43] <luissk8> ubuntu forums?
[21:44] <min|dvir|us> Can someone explain how to "grab a drm.debug=6 dmesg"?
[22:53] <fcuk112> my wallpaper has disappeared - any way to restore it?


[06:53] <Ayush_> Hello.
[06:54] <Ayush_> I am Ayush. I am 13 years old . A beginner to open source world
[06:54] <Sleep_Walker> welcome
[06:54] <Ayush_> I have taken up a beginner's task to create a calendar app
[06:55] <Ayush_> I am facing problem on how to proceed
[06:55] <Ayush_> :(
[06:55] <Ayush_> I have done with burning the image file to my pendrive to dual boot with ubuntu
[06:56] <Ayush_> I have ubuntu now . Can anybody guide me step by step on to proceed this task .
[06:56] <Ayush_> Please help mentors :(
[07:00] <Ayush_> I have 3 days to complete . I am facing a lot of problem now
[07:28] <JanC> Ayush_: why do you have only 3 days to complete?
[07:30] <JanC> and there already is a calendar app for Ubuntu Phone but it has lots of bugs, so maybe you can try to fix those  :)
[07:41] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <Kivi> zbenjamin, just curious; did you get an answer to that?
[07:50] <zbenjamin> Kivi: yes
[07:50] <zbenjamin> [06.12 20:11:32] <Mirv> zbenjamin: should be LGPL, right? to be compatible with other QtC stuff. if ever to be upstreamed, will need Qt CLA.
[07:50] <zbenjamin> [06.12 20:14:15] <Mirv> zbenjamin: I think the standard license short text is probably needed too instead of just url. the other lines are not needed in headers but also don't hurt
[07:50] <zbenjamin> Kivi: ^
[07:51] <Kivi> zbenjamin, so just swap it to lgpl, and put the short form for it in the header, and its good to go?
[07:51] <Kivi> k
[07:53] <zbenjamin> Kivi: something like that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/trunk/view/head:/src/ubuntu/clicktoolchain.cpp
[07:53] <Mirv> Kivi: easiest probably to just copy-paste from eg qt creator sources the GNU LGPL part, for example http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt-creator/qt-creator.git/plain/src/app/main.cpp
[07:53] <Mirv> ah, zbenjamin was faster
[07:54] <Kivi> heh; do you folks over at Canonical need the copyright to be under your banner?
[07:54] <Kivi> I don't mind :)
[07:56] <zbenjamin> Kivi: no we don'T , i said something like that :)
[07:56] <zbenjamin> Mirv: right? we don'T ^
[08:11] <Kivi> Where's sabdfl when you need him?
[08:25] <Ayush_> We are given deadlines right .
[08:25] <Ayush_> So I have 3 Days to go
[08:29] <Kivi> Ayush_, until what?
[08:30] <Ayush_> 9 am
[08:31] <Kivi> 3 days for a calendar app? Lol; I think bzr branch lp:ubuntu-calendar-app is your first step :P
[08:31] <Kivi> Ayush_, are you allowed to fork a project?
[08:31] <Ayush_> Kivi are you a mentor
[08:31] <Ayush_> :)
[08:31] <Kivi> Might as well be if you only have 3 days~
[08:32] <Kivi> so: Do you know what forking a project means?
[08:32] <Ayush_> Ya just 3 days. Creating a calendar app. Tough job eh?
[08:33] <Kivi> Impossible. Can you fork?
[08:33] <Ayush_> Sorry I dont know how to do that
[08:33] <Ayush_> :(
[08:33] <Ayush_> How to fork ?
[08:33] <Kivi> Ayush_, do you know what it means?
[08:34] <Ayush_> To make changes
[08:34] <Kivi> Basically
[08:34] <Ayush_> without affecting the original code
[08:34] <Kivi> sort of~
[08:35] <Kivi> Do you have ubuntu installed?
[08:35] <Ayush_> Yes
[08:35] <Kivi> open a terminal
[08:35] <Ayush_> I have ubuntu
[08:35] <Ayush_> Ok done
[08:35] <Ayush_> opened
[08:35] <Kivi> alright: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[08:36] <Ayush_> What this command does?
[08:36] <Kivi> sudo apt-get install bzr-explorer
[08:36] <Kivi> good question
[08:36] <Kivi> sudo means "Do as S uper U ser"
[08:37] <Kivi> so Super User Do
[08:37] <Kivi> sudo
[08:37] <Ayush_> Oh okay :)
[08:37] <Ayush_> Cool
[08:37] <Ayush_> :D
[08:37] <Kivi> "apt-get install" is how ubuntu installs software (at the moment.)
[08:37] <Ayush_> okay
[08:37] <Ayush_> WHat next :)
[08:38] <Ayush_> after installing bzr-explorer
[08:38] <Kivi> you can also do things like "apt-get update" or "apt-get upgrade"
[08:38] <Ayush_> Okay
[08:38] <Kivi> alright
[08:38] <Kivi> so you installed two things; ubuntu-sdk which stands for , "Software Development Kit."
[08:39] <Ayush_> Ya
[08:39] <Kivi> It also goes by the name of "QtCreator",
[08:39] <Ayush_> Oh
[08:39] <Kivi> bzr-explorer is a gui (graphical user interface) frontend for bzr, which is short for Bazaar.
[08:40] <Kivi> Do you know what a Bazaar is?
[08:40] <Ayush_> Thanks for making me understand so patiently . now I am getting what u r saying :)
[08:40] <Kivi> No problem :P
[08:41] <Ayush_> Bazaar
[08:41] <Ayush_> means
[08:41] <Ayush_> Version control system
[08:41] <Ayush_> I just googled
[08:41] <Kivi> Good, but it has a different meaning as well
[08:41] <Kivi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
[08:41] <Kivi> A bazaar is actually a name for a type of Market in the middle ages.
[08:42] <Kivi> If you ever played zelda, one of the shops where you buy a shield, is called a "Bazaar"
[08:42] <Ayush_> I mean If your using bzr to download a program it means your getting source code which you will need to compile
[08:42] <Kivi> yeah, I'm just giving some history why its called bazaar.
[08:42] <Kivi> here:
[08:42] <Kivi> The Cathedral model, in which source code is available with each software release, but code developed between releases is restricted to an exclusive group of software developers. GNU Emacs and GCC were presented as examples.
[08:42] <Kivi> The Bazaar model, in which the code is developed over the Internet in view of the public. Raymond credits Linus Torvalds, leader of the Linux kernel project, as the inventor of this process. Raymond also provides anecdotal accounts of his own implementation of this model for the Fetchmail project.
[08:43] <Ayush_> Oh okay
[08:43] <Kivi> Ayush_, so just like the open market, where everything is in view of the public, that is how we develop code.
[08:43] <Kivi> Because we primarily rely on open source projects.
[08:43] <Ayush_> Got it :)
[08:43] <Kivi> Ayush_, make sense?
[08:43] <Kivi> cool
[08:44] <Kivi> So now we are going to learn how to branch code.
[08:44] <Kivi> do you know what branching code means?
[08:44] <Ayush_> Yes
[08:44] <Kivi> okay good
[08:44] <Ayush_> No.
[08:44] <Kivi> sec
[08:44] <Kivi> er
[08:44] <Kivi> lol
[08:45] <Ayush_> Oops.
[08:45] <Ayush_> Sorry I dont know
[08:45] <Ayush_> :(
[08:45] <Kivi> its similar to forking.
[08:45] <Ayush_> ok
[08:45] <Kivi> Lets say I write this piece of python code here:
[08:45] <Kivi> print "fun"
[08:45] <Ayush_> ok
[08:46] <Kivi> now you want to contribute to my code, and add something to it. Generally what we do is you branch it, meaning you download an exact copy of the code.
[08:46] <Ayush_> Oh
[08:46] <Ayush_> I download a copy and make changed in it
[08:46] <Kivi> you make an edit, and then you "Propose a merge".
[08:46] <Ayush_> *changes
[08:46] <Ayush_> Oh okay.
[08:46] <Kivi> so you may do :
[08:47] <Kivi> print "more fun"
[08:47] <Ayush_> ya
[08:47] <Kivi> when you propose that for a merge, it will tell me what changes you have made, I review your changes, and I either accept or reject, and the code is merged.
[08:47] <Kivi> blah blah blah
[08:47] <Kivi> anyway lets get to it.
[08:48] <Kivi> Ever heard of github?
[08:48] <Ayush_> Yes
[08:48] <Ayush_> I have
[08:48] <Kivi> Okay good
[08:48] <Kivi> Ever heard of Launchpad?
[08:48] <Ayush_> No.
[08:48] <Ayush_> Not anything about Launchpad
[08:48] <Kivi> Okay Launchpad is like Github,
[08:48] <Ayush_> Okay.
[08:48] <Ayush_> WHere we have repositories
[08:48] <Kivi> its what us Ubuntu users often use alongside or instead of github.
[08:49] <Kivi> Yeah; its where you host your code. You can host open source for free, but closed source you have to pay.
[08:49] <Ayush_> Yeah got it . Ubuntu version of github is Launchpad
[08:49] <Kivi> its very nice and easy to use.
[08:49] <Kivi> sharp lad
[08:49] <Ayush_> Okay
[08:49] <Kivi> okay
[08:49] <Kivi> http://launchpad.net/
[08:49] <Kivi> go there
[08:50] <Kivi> search : ubuntu calendar app
[08:50] <Ayush_> Okay
[08:51] <Ayush_> I searched
[08:51] <Ayush_> and ended up with a lot of pages
[08:51] <Kivi> first one should be it
[08:52] <Ayush_> Yes
[08:52] <Ayush_> Did
[08:52] <Kivi> should have a orange logo with the 28 pasted on it
[08:52] <Kivi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app
[08:52] <Ayush_> Exactly
[08:53] <Kivi> okay so lets go through it. On the first page,
[08:53] <Ayush_> Hmm
[08:53] <Kivi> It should tell you the driver, maintainer, The programming languages, and the license.
[08:53] <bartbes> I'll also quickly ask again: how do I convince qt creator there is a valid cmake executable for my armhf click kit?
[08:54] <Ayush_> Yes
[08:54] <Ayush_> It displays
[08:54] <Kivi> bartbes, is this your project?
[08:54] <bartbes> is what mine?
[08:54] <bartbes> probably not, anyway
[08:55] <Kivi> bartbes, last time I ran into click issues, I honestly just created a fresh project and tranferred my code over. I don't have the patience to learn cmake.
[08:55] <bartbes> oh, these errors, no, they are in the terminal app
[08:56] <Kivi> Ayush_, okay, so the driver is basically the dictator of the project; the head honcho. The maintainer can be a team or a person.
[08:56] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: I heard that you're the right person to ask about ubuntu-sdk, may I bother you for a while?
[08:56] <bartbes> with a freshly built click kit
[08:56] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: it seems that I lack some dependencies I can't locate - http://sprunge.us/EjVE
[08:56] <Ayush_> Okay
[08:56] <Kivi> Sleep_Walker, what are you tryin gto do?
[08:57] <Sleep_Walker> Kivi: install ubuntu-sdk in ubuntu chroot created with debootstrap
[08:57] <Ayush_> The driver here are ubuntu calendar developers
[08:57] <Kivi> o_O
[08:57] <Sleep_Walker> and then hopefully create packages for ubuntu-sdk for my distribution (openSUSE)
[08:57] <bzoltan_> Sleep_Walker:  shoot :)
[08:58] <Kivi> Sleep_Walker, oh wow lol! I honestly love you, but that sounds like a monumental task~
[08:58] <bzoltan_> Sleep_Walker: apt-cache policy ubuntu-sdk ubuntu-sdk-ide
[08:58] <bartbes> I tried docker last week, but ended up with a vm instead
[08:59] <Kivi> Ayush_, anyway. Are you familiar with the basic licenses?  Like gpl v2 and gpl v3?
[08:59] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: http://sprunge.us/EGcX
[08:59] <Ayush_> Liscences like MIT is one
[08:59] <Ayush_> right ?
[08:59] <Ayush_> Yes I know
[08:59] <Sleep_Walker> Kivi: I can't really say what all is needed but I have like 32 hours of spare developer time ;b
[09:00] <Sleep_Walker> (4 working days)
[09:00] <Kivi> Ayush_, impressive 13 year old; thats all I can say~
[09:00] <Ayush_> :D
[09:00] <bzoltan_> Sleep_Walker:  have you tried to apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-ide
[09:00] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: no, I followed documentation
[09:01] <Kivi> I tend to think that gplv3 is for the more, lets just say, zealous developers. Just because it is a version higher, does not mean its better.
[09:01] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: http://sprunge.us/hQLC
[09:02] <Kivi> Ayush_, for example; The Linux Kernel still uses GPLv2, as Linus Torvalds prefers it over 3.
[09:02] <bzoltan_> Sleep_Walker:  we need to figure out what keeps back those packages
[09:02] <Sleep_Walker> your output of `apt-cache policy libbotan' could give a hint
[09:03] <Sleep_Walker> from my POV it seems that either those packages were available once and not anymore or I'm simply missing repository
[09:03] <Sleep_Walker> both can be shown by that command
[09:04] <Sleep_Walker> or I'm doing something wrong as I have the least experience with Debian based distributions :S
[09:12] <Sleep_Walker> I made whole channel silent :b
[09:14] <davmor2> Sleep_Walker: many of the devs will be on later you might want to ask again then
[09:15] <Sleep_Walker> davmor2: sure, I wasn't impatient, only checking connection :)
[09:20] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: have you definitely done an "apt-get dist-upgrade" after adding the ppa? I had issues with the click package needing to be dist-upgraded, rather than a simple upgrade, for the SDK to work properly. Perhaps that is holding things back?
[09:20] <Sleep_Walker> mcphail: I definitely did that and it performed _no change_ at all
[09:20] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: aargh :(
[09:21] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: one of my 15.10 boxes was installed by debootstrap, and I didn't hit this problem. Do you have other PPAs installed?
[09:22] <Sleep_Walker> mcphail: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[09:23] <Sleep_Walker> that is what I followed
[09:23] <Sleep_Walker> so the question is - what other PPAs?
[09:23] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: and when you created your debootstrap install, did you activate all the repos (multiverse etc)?
[09:24] <Sleep_Walker> good point, let me check
[09:25] <Sleep_Walker> mcphail: that's it!
[09:25] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: :)
[09:25] <Sleep_Walker> mcphail: many thanks for your patience
[09:25] <mcphail> Sleep_Walker: I've hit this problem with deboostrap installs many times :)
[09:25] <Sleep_Walker> as I said, something trivial and deb-specific is very well possible
[09:26] <Sleep_Walker> so, now step #2 - check for missing dependencies in my distro
[09:27] <Sleep_Walker> bzoltan_: in case you're still looking at that, mcphail figured it out already. But thanks anyway!
[09:30] <bzoltan_> Sleep_Walker: good job :) thanks mcphail
[10:35] <Kivi> !ping
[11:28] <Kivi> popey, balloons,  I am showing my new friend Ayush  how to start contributing to the core apps. As a first little project, we decided to update the imports for the the ubuntu component libraries.
[11:28] <Kivi> currently they seem to be using
[11:28] <Ayush> Yes
[11:28] <Kivi> import Ubuntu.Components 1.1
[11:28] <Kivi> what is the latest library version for Ubuntu.Components? 1.3?
[11:29] <Ayush> 1.1
[11:30] <Kivi> balloons, popey, dholbach, dpm, mhall119, and probably a few others are bigshots at Canonical, who head the ubuntu community team~
[11:30] <popey> hello hello!
[11:31] <popey> Welcome to the madhouse
[11:31] <Kivi> in fact I think there will be a community on air meeting in a few hours~
[11:31] <Ayush> madhouse :D
[11:31]  * Kivi checks
[11:32] <Kivi> http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/
[11:32] <Kivi> popey, you guys taking a break, or has it not been updated?
[11:33] <davmor2> popey: I remember when that was said as a joke.....nowadays not so much ;)
[11:33] <popey> Kivi, we skipped last week because everyone was madly busy
[11:33] <Kivi> fair enough
[11:34] <Kivi> anyway, do you know what the current version for the ubuntu components are? Its been awhile since I contributed to the core apps.
[11:35] <t1mp> Kivi: yes, Ubuntu.Components 1.3 is the latest.
[11:35] <Kivi> t1mp, thanks!
[11:35] <Ayush> Okay
[11:35] <Ayush> 1.3
[11:36] <Ayush> We shall import 1.3 and make 1.4 thats an updated one
[11:36] <Ayush> if i am not wrong
[11:36] <Kivi> Ayush, also note that popey and the canonical people operate on british time,
[11:36] <t1mp> Ayush: what is 1.4? There is no Ubuntu.Components 1.4.
[11:37] <Ayush> Ok sorry
[11:37] <Kivi> t1mp, hes just a bit green around the edges :) okay lets get to it ~
[11:38] <Ayush> Okay
[12:05] <popey> dholbach, do you have any opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1523255 ? :)
[12:10] <Kivi> bah wheres nskaggs when you need him?
[12:11] <Kivi> I'm getting this bug when trying to use autopilot with ubuntu calendar app - ImportError: No module named 'address_book_service_testability'
[12:11] <Kivi> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-test-cases/fix-1367654
[12:11] <Kivi> oh wait, isn't nskaggs balloons ?
[12:23] <svij> he is
[12:23] <Kivi> svij, ty
[12:29] <dholbach> popey, that's a question for jdstrand and beuno - I don't really. I just know that if we change anything we'll have to review all tests again and see which of them to put in which category.
[12:30] <dholbach> I'm quite sure that the vast majority will ignore warnings if we don't ask them to implement the necessary changes.
[12:31] <Kivi> ughhh jenkins is such a hassle
[12:31] <Kivi> That feeling when you download something from trunk, and it can't even run its own tests. >:[
[12:33] <beuno> well
[12:33] <beuno> warnings are things we'd like people to fix as well
[12:34] <beuno> it's a matter of policy that we don't auto-allow apps with warnings atm
[12:37] <popey> beuno, sure, I'm not trying to change any policy, just make the tool output a sane return code :)
[12:38] <popey> right now programmatically I'm having to greb for ^Warning and ^Error, which seems wrong
[12:38] <popey> *grep
[12:38] <jdstrand> popey, dholbach: conceptually I don't have a problem with different return codes for click-review. ping me next week when I have more time to think about it
[12:38] <jdstrand> beuno: fyi ^
[12:38] <popey> okay
[12:38] <popey> thanks chaps
[12:50] <paarthri_> what does autopilot exit code -6 mean? Ive spent alot of time searching for the answer but cant find it. This is for the tests in the music-app on launchpad.
[12:50] <bartbes> oh, a popey to bother
[12:51] <bartbes> qt creator's saying my armhf click kit's cmake is not a valid executable, what do I do?
[12:51] <popey> "yay"
[12:51] <popey> poke zbenjamin
[12:51] <popey> bartbes, ^
[12:51] <bartbes> well that was easy
[12:52] <paarthri_> i used autopilot3 to run the tests
[13:15] <paarthri> Trying to use autopilot3 to run test scripts in the music-app touch app. All the tests fail and the exit code is -6. What should I do?
[13:35] <zbenjamin> bartbes: could you fix it?
[13:35] <bartbes> fix what?
[13:35] <zbenjamin> [08.12 13:51:05] <bartbes> qt creator's saying my armhf click kit's cmake is not a valid executable, what do I do?
[13:35] <bartbes> I mean, fix it how?
[13:35] <bartbes> words are hard :P
[13:36] <bartbes> it just keeps saying it's an invalid executable, yet it exists and I can run it from a terminal
[13:36] <zbenjamin> bartbes: i meant, were you able to fix it :)
[13:36] <bartbes> no
[13:36] <zbenjamin> bartbes: when did it start? Is that a fresh install?
[13:37] <bartbes> yes, it's fresh
[13:37] <zbenjamin> bartbes: and you have the ubuntu-sdk ppa enabled?
[13:37] <bartbes> I built the click kit and then tried to create a build dir with it
[13:37] <bartbes> no..
[13:37] <bartbes> that sounds like something I should have done, but I do have ubuntu-sdk installed
[13:38] <zbenjamin> bartbes: ok the official release path for the ubuntu sdk is the release ppa
[13:38] <zbenjamin> bartbes: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/11/19/here-comes-brand-new-ubuntu-sdk-ide-tools/
[13:40] <bartbes> thanks, I'll give it a go in a bit
[13:42] <Sleep_Walker> hm, 33 mising dependencies (regardless its complexity)
[13:43] <Sleep_Walker> and at the same time I'm able to run ubuntu-sdk from my chroot env within local Xorg session on openSUSE
[13:43] <Sleep_Walker> it seems that I'd rather write how-to and play with Ubuntu in the rest of my time :b
[15:38] <bartbes> zbenjamin: just updated, same problem
[15:46] <bartbes> hmm, not using 'qtcreator' to open the sdk has given me different prompts so far, and now it's asking me to update the kit
[15:47] <bartbes> ah, now it's running but complaining about a chroot path
[15:51] <zbenjamin> bartbes: hm i wonder if you maybe should just reset your QtC configuration
[15:52] <bartbes> maybe
[15:52] <bartbes> though this is on a different mountpoint
[15:52] <zbenjamin> bartbes: do you have some special sort of setup
[15:52] <zbenjamin> bartbes: like /home on a dedicated partition?
[15:52] <bartbes> it's a vm, so the project's on a shared mount with the host
[15:53] <bartbes> I'll make a local copy
[15:56] <bartbes> yeah that seems to work
[16:00] <zbenjamin> bartbes: cool :)
[16:04] <bartbes> popey: well, I finally managed to reproduce it, it doesn't work on my phone either
[16:04] <bartbes> time to figure out how that input gets into the application
[16:04] <popey> bartbes, great news!
[16:05] <bartbes> depends on your definition of great :P
[16:36] <bartbes> I am so confused
[16:36] <bartbes> I can't find where the osk injects its keypresses
[17:58] <Kivi> zbenjamin, https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot/added-copyright-license-header --
[17:59] <zbenjamin> Kivi: awesome thx, will check it out tomorrow
[17:59] <Kivi> at your leisure


[13:34] <legreffier> hi hi :) anyone up ?
[13:35] <legreffier> got no feedback yesterday , here or through mail.
[15:01] <barry> north american o/
[15:02] <bdmurray> yeah?
[15:02] <robru> \o
[15:02] <sil2100> o/
[15:02] <tdaitx> o/
[15:02] <sil2100> (almost missed it, time shift)
[15:02] <sil2100> If anything, I'll need some time to prep a report
[15:05] <tdaitx> sil2100, hold on until Nov 16, US also drops daylight saving by then
[15:05] <sil2100> I think slangasek is on a sprint this week?
[15:05] <xnox> and pitti too
[15:05] <robru> yeah
[15:05] <xnox> skip?! =)
[15:05] <tdaitx> yes, he is... oh I was waiting for pitti
[15:05] <bdmurray> cyphermox is at some event too
[15:05] <sil2100> Let's just assume everyone was doing 'stuff'
[15:05] <sil2100> ;)
[15:06] <robru> ah, stuff, i'm good at that
[15:06] <cyphermox> well, I'm kind of still around
[15:06] <tdaitx> * stuff
[15:06] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:06] <cyphermox> have yet to go get breakfast and get to the conference venue
[15:06] <bdmurray> I wrote up the stuffs
[15:07] <cyphermox> so I've been trying to get online monday and tuesday, wednesday for part of the day, preparing updates for wpa, crda, wireless-regdb, and also working on finishing up those juju-core SRUs
[15:07] <cyphermox> and now also the merge of devscripts.
[15:08] <cyphermox> network here is abysmal
[15:08] <bdmurray> I hope its not a networking conference
[15:08] <tdaitx> cyphermox, where is that?
[15:09] <cyphermox> Santa Fe.
[15:09] <cyphermox> bdmurray: as if... it's Plumbers, and we noticed the issues Tuesday during the wireless workshop ;)
[15:11] <barry> only 3 of us on mumble.  i think we can skip it
[15:12] <bdmurray> If you are running Xenial please test the apt microrelease in -proposed.
[15:16] <caribou> bdmurray: no problem for me with that apt microrelease
[15:20] <cyphermox> bdmurray: there's other stuff I needed to test in xenial-proposed (juju-core upgrade), so I'll do that in the same container
[15:20] <cyphermox> specific things we should look out for?
[15:20] <bdmurray> not breaking!
[15:50] <slangasek> sil2100: correct!
[15:50] <slangasek> :)


[01:28] <EntropyWorks> the quality of the 12.10 netboot initrd.gz is questionable...
[01:29] <EntropyWorks> missing drivers for mlx4_en devices and also many scsi drivers.
[02:16] <EntropyWorks> WTF! shouldn't http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ install quantal and not precise. I just finish getting the initrd.gz to work and login to find lsb_release -a returns 12.04
[07:26] <jibel> good morning
[08:41] <pitti> Good morning
[08:44] <Noskcaj> evening pitti
[08:45] <Noskcaj> the amd64 kubuntu alpha image freezes when you hit next with install mp3 selected
[08:45] <Noskcaj> can someone confirm?
[08:45] <jibel> good morning pitti
[08:46] <pitti> bonjour jibel
[08:46] <pitti> jibel: OOI, did you see any meaningful difference between the "old" and "new" adt?
[08:46] <pitti> s/difference/regression/ rather, as it actually got better in some regards
[08:48] <Noskcaj> running in Vbox and internet is connected, "download updates while intalling" is not selected
[08:50] <jibel> pitti, I didn't. the only thing was yesterday ubiquity ran and failed because not all the deps were in -proposed. This shouldn't happen anymore once test requests are send by britney
[08:51] <jibel> and also 2 jobs were stuck this morning (eglibc and firefox-extension), but I don't think it's related to the new adt
[08:51] <jibel> I restarted them and they are running fine
[09:23] <Noskcaj> does anyone know where the 12.10 comes from in ubiquity?
[09:23] <Noskcaj> question from shadeslayer
[09:23] <xnox> Noskcaj: I did reply...... one channel is enough =)
[09:23] <shadeslayer> Noskcaj: xnox answered that one :P
[09:23] <Noskcaj> for if someone else had something to add
[09:32] <zyga> better
[09:42] <zyga> :)
[15:01] <xnox> nuclearbob: heya.
[15:02] <nuclearbob> xnox: howdy
[15:02] <xnox> nuclearbob: we are very close to getting jenkins up \o/ well done.
[15:02] <nuclearbob> I added this to my list of channels to always join, but it doesn't seem to be working for some reason
[15:03] <nuclearbob> xnox: woo jenkins!
[15:03] <xnox> nuclearbob: me & cjwatson were pinged about bug 1061242
[15:03] <xnox> I did comment on it. But it is a bit confusing.
[15:03] <xnox> I can fix it in utah (/run must be bind-mounted to /target/run)
[15:04] <xnox> (this is because we are running resolvconf daemon and /etc/resolv.conf is actually a symlink to a file in /run)
[15:04] <xnox> But i also want to fix up a few other cosmetic issues with late_command.
[15:04] <xnox> But the jenkins logs do not match lp:utah.
[15:04] <xnox> Is jenkins using some kind of a local instance of utah?
[15:05] <nuclearbob> the version there should be updated to the daily package, but it usually takes a day or two for the package to get built and updated
[15:05] <xnox> ah.
[15:10] <xnox> nuclearbob: let me propose an update. Is there an easy way to test run the desktop-smoke run_list?
[15:10] <nuclearbob> xnox: yes.  We can use the same command line that's in jekins on a test system, and it will fetch everything it needs from launchpad
[15:11] <xnox> nuclearbob: as in I can just copy what in jenkins? where/how do I look that up in jenkins?
[15:11] <xnox> that would be awesome.
[15:14] <ScottK> balloons: Done with Alpha 1 testing, so you can drop it from /topic.
[15:16] <nuclearbob> xnox: I was wrong, we haven't updated the jobs yet to do the automatic checkout.  I know we merged that, so we'll have to rerun the scripts.  In the interim, if you run run_utah_test.py -t desktop -s raring lp:~javier.collado/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/runlists/default.run  that should work
[15:17] <nuclearbob> xnox: if you're testing a local change, make sure to set the PYTHONPATH environment variable, or the scripts will ignore your path, or if you have a change you want me to test, let me know where it is
[15:25] <ScottK> jibel: (IIRC it was you that does this, if not sorry for the distraction) Will you do a test summary report for Alpha 1 (it should be short).
[15:25]  * smartboyhw wonders if balloons should be the one doing test reports, as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseTaskSignup
[15:25]  * smartboyhw wonders why the link is bolded
[15:28]  * ScottK thinks it's mostly running a script.
[15:28]  * smartboyhw agrees
[15:29]  * smartboyhw finds timezone differences making him difficult to communicate with balloons :P
[15:31] <xnox> nuclearbob: ok, let me work on it.
[16:41] <jibel> plars, balloons the tool to generate the report is in https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/qatracker-tools
[16:41] <jibel> will you generate the report for alpha1?
[16:42]  * balloons looks
[16:43] <balloons> plars,  do you have db access?
[16:47] <jibel> balloons, plars nm, I'll do it
[16:49] <ScottK> Thanks jibel.
[16:58] <plars> balloons1, jibel: sorry, was on a call, what's this about?
[16:59] <balloons> plars, the post milestone testing reports
[16:59] <balloons> I believe you have done one befre
[16:59] <plars> balloons: no, I don't have db access. jibel has generated in the past, but you and I should probably both have the ability to do that too
[17:00] <balloons> plars, I'm requesting now, you should do the same ;l-)
[17:00] <plars> balloons: I don't even know what to request access to at the moment, do you have that info already?
[17:01] <balloons> plars, see your pm
[17:02] <jibel> ScottK, balloons, plars https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/RaringAlpha1TestReport
[17:02] <ScottK> jibel: Thanks.
[17:02] <jibel> the schema of the database changed, so I wish it's ok, if it is not tell me I'll fix it.
[17:03] <ScottK> jibel: You usually send that to ubuntu-release, right?
[17:03] <jibel> ScottK, right
[17:04] <ScottK> Looks right to me.
[17:09] <xnox> nuclearbob: I guess I am missing something.... "Exception: Specified ISO: raring-desktop-amd64.iso not found on mirrors."
[17:20] <xnox> well it's running now. And my laptop is getting hot.
[18:06] <nuclearbob> xnox: that's interesting.  could you tell me the version you're using so I can recreate it here?
[18:10] <nuclearbob> xnox: I figured out what's going on.  Right now for the development version we try to use dl-ubuntu-test-iso if that's in the path, and if it's not, it looks like our fallback download method only works for released images.  I'll file a bug for that.  In the interim, you can install dl-ubuntu-test-iso or use the -i argument to point to an iso you've already downloaded
[18:38] <EntropyWorks> someone here know where I can report a bug with the netboot installer for 12.10
[19:41] <Noskcaj> for today can you all try and install the mp3 codec during the install. i should freeze.(does on xubuntui686 and kubuntu amd64)
[19:45] <Noskcaj> Bug #1087409
[20:38] <Noskcaj> bug 1085577 now has the files the devs needed
[20:47] <Noskcaj> strange, the lubuntu guys have half fixed bug 1084729. it creates a partition table now but it still has the multiple continue bug, even if you back out of "something else" and go back in. any ideas?
[23:46] <xnox> nuclearbob: ok. I will try that sometime. I worked around the download image bug by monkey patching, but it failed later on with something else. But by that point I was already running a frankenstein =)


[18:56] <tomas_arad> hi folks! have anybody ideea why SK1 why not work in xenial (ubuntustudio)? & how fix it?