[00:08] <sithlord48> keeline in system settings
[00:10] <keeline> sithlord48: ? You mean to ask something so that I can verify?
[00:21] <xFeverr> hello
[00:22] <tunguska> keyboard configuration for 11.04 and kde is not working. The language on system settings is set to portuguese brasilian, but my keyboard is US and I want to type apostrofe plus c to get cedilla, but it s not working.
[00:22] <keeline> Is there a way to disable Menu Bar (Ctrl + M) of all the applications (atleast kde apps)?
[00:23] <ybit> alt-f2, oxygen-settings... widget style > scrollbars, scrollbar width...
[00:24] <ybit> someone please tell me what the default setting is :)
[00:25] <slinker1> ybit: 15
[00:25] <keeline> tunguska: there is keyboard layout app, which can switch between many keyboard layouts
[00:26] <tunguska> tried that. not working.
[00:26] <tunguska> I just need one keyboard layout, and the one that should - us alternative internatioinal with dead keys - it s not working whatsoever.
[00:29] <cirdan> hey all. how does kubuntu mount things with dolphin? I just upgraded my dad's box to 11 and his usb drives seem to be unreadable by anyone but himself
[00:48] <katsrc> so i just setup ownCloud, now what?
[00:49] <James147> katsrc: its a web service ^^ you access it through your webbroweser mostly
[00:49] <James147> (assuming you have apache running)
[00:50] <katsrc> James147: is it like only developers preview?
[00:51] <keeline> James147: I did not get the part where they tell that it runs on our own hardware, then why the web service?
[00:52] <kavurt> cirdan: anyone means other users on the same computer?
[00:54] <cirdan> yes
[00:55] <cirdan> also, automount on the external drive would be great
[00:55] <cirdan> it's a shared media drive
[00:55] <kavurt> cirdan: you should add them into the /etc/fstab to automount
[00:56] <cirdan> kavurt: that's the only way?
[00:56] <cirdan> whats the best way for uuid?
[00:56] <kavurt> sudo blkid
[00:58] <James147> katsrc: I think its now more then a developers preview... but you have to ask if you need it... its designed to run on an server to sync up servral other computers (kind of like dropbox... but where you run it yur self rather the relying on dropbox, as well as syncing kde related stuff)
[00:59] <Scunizi> How do you add a radio stream from a local radio station to Amorak 2.3.2??
[00:59] <kavurt> cirdan: i don't know whether there's another way to do it
[00:59] <katsrc> James147: it seems like a good service, we probably need it today
[01:00] <kavurt> Scunizi: do you have the url?
[01:00] <James147> katsrc: ??
[01:00] <katsrc> i'm wondering if there's a way to use local directories
[01:00] <Scunizi> Yea..
[01:00] <Scunizi> kavurt: yes
[01:00] <cirdan> kavurt: can he easily unmonut the drive from kde or gnome?
[01:00] <cirdan> if it's mounted with fstab
[01:00] <katsrc> James147: meant owning and running your own cloud
[01:00] <James147> katsrc: yeah :) though thats only useful if you have the hardware to do it (ie a server type computer)
[01:01] <Scunizi> kavurt: I've got it playing now.. but I want to either bookmark it or add it as a stream to the "Internet" tab
[01:01] <James147> cirdan: not if mounted by fstab
[01:01] <katsrc> James147: it's good for sharing files with friends and family
[01:01] <James147> cirdan: though "sudo umount <drive>" should do it
[01:02] <cirdan> James147: but my dad doesnt use the terminal
[01:02] <James147> cirdan: whats he trying to unmount?
[01:03] <cirdan> i need it mounted and readable by everyone, until he unmounts it and takes it away
[01:03] <cirdan> external 2tb drive
[01:03] <cirdan> it used to work fine if he mounted it himself, but now ubuntu makes it readable only by him
[01:04] <James147> cirdan: what if you make it user mountable and not auto mounted (user,noauto  in fstab).. might show up in dolphin
[01:05] <cirdan> i'll try that
[01:06] <cirdan> something changed in hal's config, tht does the automount
[01:06] <James147> katsrc: for basic instruction of setting it up ^^ http://owncloud.org/index.php/Installation  ^^ though it is basically install it use your browser to configure it (http://localhost/owncloud)
[01:21] <zoe> Hi, I just installed a fresh natty narwhal, and I'm having a strange problem. When I click on the desktop, my windows and panels disappear. I can create a new panel that shows up, and if I choose select "keep above others" for a window, I can see it. Clicking on the desktop makes both disappear again. Disabling desktop effects ends this, and all panels and windows show up. Any ideas what it is in desktop effects could do this?
[01:26] <dirk_> how do I nuke my kde workspace and rebuild it from scratch? At the moment
[01:26] <dirk_> it is so messed up it won't even accept keyboard input.
[01:28] <James147> dirk_: kde configs are in ~/.kde ^^ I would start with ~/.kde/share/config and rename the files in there that sound like they are responsible for the problem
[01:29] <James147> ^^ app data is in ~/.kde/share/apps
[01:32] <dirk_> thanks I'll try that.
[01:40] <dirk_> well that kinda worked. moving ~/.kde/share/config at least gave me back a working kde enviorment
[01:41] <dirk_> I have a dual screen setup and on one screen kde is ignoring keyboard input.
[01:42] <dirk_> I have them set as seperate X-server screens in hopes of getting fullscreen games to work properly again.
[01:43] <dirk_> in xfce4 keyboard input is accepted in the other screen.
[01:44] <James147> dirk_: I dont think kde fully supports seperate screens yet
[01:47] <dirk_> James147: not supported? but it hsa a configuration section and everything for it.
[01:47] <James147> where? I dont remember see one
[01:49] <dirk_> Display & Monitor
[01:49] <James147> dirk_: thats designed for open drivers that use randr extensions... not seperate screens in nvidia or ati
[01:49] <dirk_> of course it doesn't seem to believe in my second monitor anymore.
[02:13]  * genii-around watches Washington try to tie with 1:01 remaining
[02:14] <genii-around> oops, misdirect :)
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> Has anyone else had grub drop into a shell instead of showing a menu since upgrading to 11.04?
[02:31] <Dragnslcr> Or had their session crash repeatedly for no apparent reason?
[02:32] <dirk_> no but I do have grub issues since the last few updates.
[02:33] <dirk_> this was before 11.04 though. One of the regular updates caused it.
[02:33] <dirk_> fixing the grub menu manually worked.
[02:34] <Dragnslcr> Did I miss something you said before that?
[02:36] <dirk_> possibly, my telepathic module has segfaulted again.
[02:36] <dirk_> no but I do have grub issues since the last few updates. this was before 11.04 though. One of the regular updates caused it. fixing the grub menu manually worked.
[02:36] <dirk_> did that repost help?
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> I thought I had run grub-mkconfig, but I'll run it again
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> The new one is identical to the existing one, but we'll see what happens
[02:41] <dirk_> I think the auto generated one is the problem.
[02:42] <dirk_> I modified mine by hand.
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> Are the menu options in yours showing a root of (hd0,msdos1)?
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> That doesn't seem right to me
[02:47] <dirk_> doesn't seem right to me either but I do think that's what it showed, let me check.
[02:48] <dirk_> yup. set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)'
[02:48] <dirk_> I think it is because the drives are formated to use dos type partitions.
[02:49] <dirk_> you know the whole thing of up to 4 primary partitions and x logical partitions.
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Yeah
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> And that root works for you?
[02:54] <dirk_> yup.
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> Do you remember what you had to change in grub.cfg?
[02:59] <plasteline> Тут есть рускоязычные ?
[03:00] <genii-around> !ru
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> dirk_- http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/ suggested doing grub-install and update-grub, and that seems to have modified grub.cfg
[03:04] <dirk_> thanks. As you can tell I have not been paying much attention, fixing my own system :)
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Guess I'll see if it worked next time I reboot
[03:15] <ari_> #irc.hacker-newbie.org
[03:22] <sigra> sup guys
[03:41] <shane4kubuntu> does kde sync wih palmos?  I was thinking the kpilot package was dropped and searching for the package it isn't there.
[04:18] <yarjar> I just installed and my performance is pretty sluggish
[04:18] <yarjar> windows take longer than they should to minimize/maximize
[04:18] <yarjar> and I have very decent hardware with a good graphics card
[04:25] <keeline> yarjar: may be graphics card issue. Try installing vendors driver?
[04:27] <yarjar> I installed the nvidia driver
[04:43] <yarjar> also, my dragonplayer playsback videos with negative colors
[04:43] <yarjar> blue people :x
[04:51] <dan_> !upgrade
[04:54] <dan_> I'm trying to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.  I get the error message "distribution upgrade process exited with code 1".  Has anyone ever seen that?
[06:18] <salaah> can someone help me please...
[06:19] <salaah> i install kubuntu after ubuntu,
[06:19] <salaah> after almost every release
[06:19] <salaah> adjusting the antialiasing fonts in kubuntu always messes up global fonts,
[06:19] <salaah> i need some help
[06:19] <salaah> anyone?
[06:30] <Keshl> salaah: Patience is a virtue. -- You don't need to install Ubuntu before Kubuntu, but I can't help you with your fonts. Just figured I'd tell you that it's kinda pointless to install Ubuntu, then Kubuntu.
[06:33] <salaah> well...
[06:33] <salaah> i actually like to use ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu and unity
[06:34] <salaah> man, this font this is driving me crazy.
[06:53] <mr0wl> Has there been an influx of users switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu recently?
[06:53] <mr0wl> Is anyone keeping count?
[07:00] <Tm_T> mr0wl: try asking in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <mr0wl> K
[07:35] <elijah> What is the feature called where you drag the window to the left/right edge and it tiles it vertically?
[07:37] <jussi> ok, I have kontact/kmail with 4 dimap accounts. When I check email I want it to only check the inbox for new email (not the other folders, like archives or trash). How can I do this?
[07:38] <jussi> elijah: you mean "window snap"?
[07:39] <elijah> jussi: yeah that sounds right
[07:39] <elijah> jussi: is that what it is called, officially?
[07:40] <jussi> elijah: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kcontrol/windowbehaviour/index.html
[07:54] <elijah> jussi: I am not sure if that it is
[07:54] <elijah> it
[07:56] <elijah> I mean where if I drag a small window full to the left/right a outline will appear that perfectly separates the screen in half vertically and if I let go of the mouse in this spot then the window will take on that the new dimensions.
[07:56] <jussi> elijah: ahh, yes, hang on, now I know what you are after
[08:03] <elijah> thanks jussi
[08:04] <faLUCE> hi. how can I encrypt a samba share?
[08:08] <darkrex1986> faLUCE: what did you mean with encrypt ?
[08:09] <faLUCE> darkrex1986: encrypt the network data stream
[08:11] <jussi> elijah: ahh, electric borders: http://community.kde.org/KWin/Screen_Edges
[08:14] <darkrex1986> faLUCE: hmm good question, sounds like MitM ;) did you tried it in bt4-channel?
[08:17] <elijah> jussi: sweet, that is very much appreciated!!! I am so in love with electric borders!
[08:18] <elijah> What is kinda nice is that Windows 7 has this feature too now so whenever I have to work on my bosses computer I can still use them and there is also a paid app for mac that has this too. However, KDE still has it best as the corners don't work on the other systems...
[08:19] <jussi> elijah: you are most welcome :) - if you just feel like chatting and espousing how awesome kde/kubuntu is, come join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <elijah> ahh, good to know about that channel, I didn't know!
[08:49] <nicolaslara> hi there, is anyone else having problems with mouse and keyboard in X after upgrading to natty?
[08:53] <nicolaslara> connecting a usb mouse gets it to work.   I upgraded to natty a couple of weeks before the official release and I've got a problem with the kwallet not remembering any passwords any more, everything is re-prompting.  Is this a known issue?  How can I debug this?
[09:31] <Tm_T> is there some tool or way to control when touchpad is on? I would like to keep it off when I have usb mouse plugged in
[09:38] <darkrex1986> Tm_T: use the fn+FKey on your Notebook ;)
[09:38] <Tm_T> darkrex1986: this one doesn't have any such option for the touchpad
[09:39] <space_madness200> in peoples opinions whats a good music media player for kde? aside from amarok
[09:40] <Tm_T> I'll try synaptiks
[09:40] <Tm_T> ...actually, I don't (:
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> Tm_T:  try   http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad Synaptics
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> Tm_T:  try   http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics    there's a howto on there
[09:45] <darkrex1986> Tm_T: if it is a synaptic touchpad you can disable it in Systemsettings, there is an option for touchpad
[09:46] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root's password in kde?????????????
[09:46] <Tm_T> well_laid_lawn: thanks
[09:46] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root's password in kde?
[09:46] <well_laid_lawn> sudo mount maybe
[09:47] <Tm_T> darkrex1986: if you can point me the exactly where there, I have spent plenty of time trying to spot such switch in that module
[09:47] <SLruan> anyone can help me
[09:47] <SLruan> >>
[09:47] <SLruan> ??
[09:47] <Tm_T> SLruan: patience, please
[09:47] <SLruan> ok
[09:49] <SLruan> When i mount ntfs in gnome,then remind me to need root password ,but nothing in kde .
[09:49] <darkrex1986> Tm_T: I found it
[09:51] <darkrex1986> Tm_T: you have to click on the triangle in the taskabr right down near the colck then synaptics
[09:52] <darkrex1986> Tm_T: this opens a window there you can find the option disable touchpad on mouse connect
[09:52] <Tm_T> darkrex1986: I don't have anything synaptics-related in the systray
[09:52] <well_laid_lawn> you can set things up so if you hit a key the touchpad turns off and turne on again if the keyboard isn't used for so many seconds
[09:53] <Tm_T> well_laid_lawn: aye, there's an app to do that, but I rather turn it off entirely when another mouse is connected
[09:53] <Tm_T> will do some digging with the drivers, thanks for the help
[10:00] <SLruan> how to mount ntfs by root's password in kde?????????????
[10:01] <crashev> after upgrading to 11.04 bightness control stopped working - anyone know how to fix it ?
[10:27] <bigbrovar> .
[10:36] <alquimista> hello Im a new Member linux ;)
[10:39] <Peace-> alquimista: well
[10:40] <rahim> Soo tell me
[10:40] <rahim> what are you doing:D?
[10:41] <Lhademmor> Hey, I've noticed something weird: In Amarok in natty, I'm unable to edit the details of a track unless I start Amarok as root using sudo... is that really supposed to happen that way?
[10:41] <rahim> omg all of you are nurds
[10:41] <rahim> me out
[10:41] <rahim> bye
[11:03] <MadRobot> Hi all.
[11:07] <Peace-> hi MadRobot
[11:08] <MadRobot> I have just install Kubuntu-desktop inside my current Ubuntu installation. And for some reason, after doing that, I started having a problem running my Django project (which is in a virtual environment).
[11:17] <bigjools> hi.  I upgraded to natty a couple of weeks before the official release and I've got a problem with the kwallet not remembering any passwords any more, everything is re-prompting.  Is this a known issue?  How can I debug this?
[11:21] <Peace-> bigjools: mm
[11:21] <Peace-> i have no issue with kwallet
[11:21] <bigjools> my other machine is fine too
[11:22] <bigjools> it's only the one I upgraded early
[11:43] <Dragnslcr> Has any else had problems with their session crashing a lot for no apparent reason since upgrading to 11.04?
[11:46] <bios_> Hey, I have problem with my webcam and its built-in mic: When webcam & mic are running at the same time, there is some kind of noise in the mic channel, if the webcame is off, everything is working perfectly
[11:59] <mfraz74> Can anyone else confirm Bug #777019. Warning you may loose anything you're working on and your wireless connection.
[12:02] <sobczyk_> is there a way to control externally multihead configurations? I have an external screen at work connected to my laptop, kde always forgets the right config, I'd like to create a shortcut with the configuration I use
[12:10] <Bauldrick> I've been having problems booting Kubuntu of late. I had/have windows with 2 partitions C:&D: - I shrank D: and installed Kubuntu there, trouble is sometimes when switching PC on neither OS boot, just get a black screen and have to pull the plug, I thought it may be bootloader, but heres a screenshot - is it the partition type causing problem?  It does boot if I go through recovery, reboot to fsck (mostly)
[12:10] <Bauldrick>  http://img59.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1uj.png/
[12:12] <bios_> Hey, I have problem with my webcam and its built-in mic: When webcam & mic are running at the same time, there is some kind of noise in the mic channel, if the webcame is off, everything is working perfectly
[12:15] <HouseMD> is there a known workarround for eliminating random pixels with the nvidia driver? (desktop effects already disabled, much better but I can still see a few random pixels)
[12:44] <gribouille> hi
[12:44] <gribouille> is there a replacement for kmix ?
[12:46] <asraniel_> gribouille: why would you want to replace it? there is always the pulseaudio interfacethat you can use
[12:47] <gribouille> asraniel_, because it freezes constantly
[12:48] <asraniel_> gribouille: ah ok. never had that problem. any idea what is causing it? i never heard of anybody that had a similar problem
[12:48] <asraniel_> i hope you reported it!
[12:48] <James147> gribouille: there is the widget "veromix"
[12:50] <James147> dont think there is a package for it yet: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Veromix+-+A+Pulseaudio+volume+control?content=116676
[12:50] <gribouille> James147, does it work well ?
[12:50] <James147> gribouille: working fine here (after a logout)
[12:51] <gribouille> James147, let me try it
[12:52] <gribouille> James147, I've unpacked it and typed make, but I get an error
[12:52] <James147> gribouille: thats not how you build software
[12:53] <gribouille> James147, there is no configure script
[12:53] <James147> try this: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/plasma-widget-veromix
[12:54] <James147> gribouille: not all software has a configure script and usually you cannot just run make
[12:54] <James147> most have a readme or install file to tell you how to buiold them
[12:55] <James147> gribouille: but i think with this you just run "plasmapkg -i <downloaded file>"
[12:56] <gribouille> James147, I didn't know that command
[12:56] <James147> assuming you have the dependencies installed
[12:56] <gribouille> I've installed it with dpkg. do I have to restart kubuntu ?
[12:57] <James147> no
[12:58] <James147> gribouille: right click the systray > system tray settings > checck "veromix" in the "extra items" section if its there... if not logout and back in and try again
[12:59] <gribouille> James147, which systray ?
[12:59] <James147> any ^^
[12:59] <James147> though you dont normally have more the one
[13:00] <gribouille> James147, I don't know what you mean by systray, sorry
[13:01] <gribouille> James147, there is the K menu, the panels, etc
[13:01] <James147> The widget in the bottom corner of the screen where kmix and such application sit]
[13:02] <gribouille> James147, I don't thhink the systray is related to plasmoids
[13:02] <gribouille> the systray is for normal applications
[13:03] <James147> gribouille: no... the system tray can hold some plasmoids...
[13:04] <gribouille> James147, I don't see veromix in the systray configuration
[13:05] <gribouille> le me log in again
[13:06] <simion314> the systray is a plasmoid like any other, it is not a container for other plasmoids
[13:23] <gribouille> hi again
[13:26] <gribouille> the is something I find extremely annoying : every day, kpackagekit offers me to upgrade to natty. how can I disable this ?
[13:27] <shane4kubuntu> I was going to install some spanish dictionaries, myspell aspell through the software manager (kpackageit?) however it wanted to remove my english languages?  I usually install both, in kopete the spanish letters don't show up correctly on incoming messages.
[13:27] <noaXess> hey.. my ff 4.0.1 and flash ar not friends.. flash 10.2... if i see a flash graic, eg. from http://piwik.org/ - online demo... any idea?
[13:29] <mfraz74> seriously considering going back to 10.10
[13:29] <noaXess> mfraz74: ??
[13:29] <noaXess> had that also in 10.10
[13:30] <mfraz74> noaXess: Lots of things don't seem to be working properly in 10.10
[13:30] <mfraz74> 11.04
[13:30] <noaXess> hm... i don't have a lot problems..
[13:30] <noaXess> but i have problems in ff4 with flash since ff4
[13:30] <mfraz74> how have you installed Flash?
[13:31] <asraniel_> oh, i was just about to upgrade to 11.04 to get rid of a few 10.10 bugs. so its not ready yet?
[13:32] <mfraz74> asraniel_: I've upgraded 2 laptops from 10.10 to 11.04 and on one laptop wi-fi keeps dropping and plymouth looks ugly and on both xorg crashes after coming out of the screen saver
[13:32] <asraniel_> ok, that sounds bad
[13:32] <mfraz74> still have 3 desktops and a netbook on 10.10 and don't want to risk it
[13:32] <asraniel_> going to wait a few weeks then until 11.04 gets some updates
[13:33] <mfraz74> asraniel_: what problems are you having with 10.10?
[13:35] <asraniel_> mfraz74: copying text in kmail copies html text and not normal text. compositing does not work correctly on my gfs laptop with intel gpu, flash updates do not work (i always have to reinstall flash), somehow amarok plays the sound on the integrated soundcard and not the usb soundcard (vlc and all others do it right, phonon config is correct)
[13:35] <mfraz74> asraniel_: that copying text seems to have been fixed recently
[13:36] <asraniel_> mfraz74: not here at least... so i was hopping it was in 11.04
[13:36] <mfraz74> have you got any of the kubuntu ppas enabled?
[13:36] <bigbrovar> asraniel_: I would advise u wait a bit for things to stabilize before u try 11.04, lots of things are been fixed as I speak.
[13:37] <shane4kubuntu> no one know of kopete and spanish characters?  Google doesn't have a whole lot of info either.
[13:37] <asraniel_> very good :) is there a timeplan? 1 week? 1 month?
[13:38] <mfraz74> still have 4 more computers on 10.10 don't want to risk breaking them too
[13:38] <bigbrovar> asraniel_: usually a month 2 months is a good time to upgrade, then most bugs would have been identified and fixes and walk around released
[13:39] <bigbrovar> asraniel_: this should not mean u should not be involved in bug reporting and fixing . if u have a spare machine u can always help out. just might not the wise to upgrade on a walk machine where stability is top most priority
[13:41] <mfraz74> i've filed some bugs, a couple have been fixed, but the rest haven't
[14:02] <mfraz74> even things like Launchpad no longer knows what version of Ubuntu you're using if you use Firefox
[14:07] <noaXess> noone a idea about ff4 and flash on kubuntu?
[14:08] <NaBoo> noaXess: did You upgrade to new distro?
[14:09] <noaXess> 11.04.. but i had it also on 10.10
[14:09] <noaXess> since ff4
[14:10] <NaBoo> noaXess: did You try simply: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:10] <NaBoo> noaXess: or: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:11] <noaXess> NaBoo: i have flash but poor qulity.. or.. if i mousover over a flash grafic, like that one from piwik.org i can't see any flash popup information
[14:11] <NaBoo> noaXess: maybe probles is in Your X11
[14:13] <NaBoo> noaXess: which graphic card have you?
[14:13] <noaXess> NaBoo: nvidia..  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 240M] (rev a2)
[14:14] <alexb1> Hi, I cannot use the external microphone to record sound. Can anyone help me?
[14:14] <noaXess> alexb1: wowowow... not a easy problem :)
[14:14] <alexb1> I know :( I tried to solve it for some time now
[14:14] <NaBoo> noaXess: which driver have You installed? from nvidia site or from distro?
[14:14] <noaXess> NaBoo: hm.. letmecheck
[14:15] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603263/
[14:16] <NaBoo> noaXess: check this file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:17] <noaXess> NaBoo: and what to check? there is nvidia, i know ;)
[14:17] <noaXess> driver "nvidia"
[14:18] <noaXess> NaBoo: check this.. http://bit.ly/ilvHJh
[14:18] <noaXess> if you go over tha flash grafic.. can you see popup info?
[14:18] <NaBoo> noaXess: ok
[14:18] <noaXess> NaBoo: "Last visits graph"
[14:18] <NaBoo> noaXess: ok i see
[14:19] <noaXess> NaBoo: so on your browser it works?
[14:19] <NaBoo> noaXess: it`s look like problem with flash application
[14:19] <noaXess> NaBoo: so also no popup info..
[14:19] <NaBoo> noaXess: works but there is little problem
[14:20] <NaBoo> noaXess: that`s right
[14:20] <NaBoo> noaXess: use rekonq instead of firefox
[14:21] <NaBoo> noaXess: :)
[14:21] <jedix> hey
[14:21] <jedix> I have the 11.04 amd64 release downloaded, the md5 sum matches what is on the page, but there's an error on the disc
[14:21] <jedix> I tried burning it twice, the second one I verified with the boot option to verify
[14:22] <jedix> it says 1 error found
[14:22] <tertl3> maybe bad media?
[14:22] <jedix> twice?
[14:22] <noaXess> NaBoo: crash... if i use rekonq for piwik, rekonq crashes ..
[14:22] <NaBoo> noaXess: on my kubuntu works well
[14:23] <jedix> I've never had a bad cd before
[14:23] <noaXess> NaBoo: ... ok i don't really use rekonq..
[14:24] <NaBoo> noaXess: what`s you mean?
[14:25] <noaXess> NaBoo: think its a ff4/flash/X11/nvidia issue ;)
[14:25] <noaXess> chrome works fine.. hm.. so ff seems to have a problem
[14:26] <NaBoo> noaXess: so You must to wait :)
[14:26] <NaBoo> noaXess: for ff to fix this issue :)
[14:26] <noaXess> jep
[14:27] <NaBoo> noaXess: ok i back to this ugly perl programming :D
[14:27] <noaXess> NaBoo: and i to openerp/python ;)
[14:27] <NaBoo> noaXess: have a nice day :)
[14:28] <noaXess> NaBoo: we see us...
[14:39] <contrast> greets, everyone... anyone else missing the KPackageKit option that allowed all users to install upgrades without being prompted for authentication?
[14:44] <contrast> Hey BluesKaj, how goes it? :)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hi contrast , ok nd you ?
[14:45] <contrast> Pretty good.  :D
[14:47] <contrast> BluesKaj: Are you using 11.04 yet?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yes, been using it since alpha
[14:49] <contrast> Do you still have the option in KPackageKit to allow all users to install upgrades (without being prompted for a password)?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> contrast, sorry dunno ...i normaly dump packagekit and replace it with synaptic (my only nod to a valuable gnome app )...mostly I use the konsole for upograding , since I'm the only user
[14:53] <contrast> that's exactly the way i did things for the longest time... not sure why but i've just been feeling tempted to do things "the normal way" lately. haha
[14:54] <jedix> I think it's the laptops cd rom drive
[14:54] <BluesKaj> normal to me is the cli :)
[14:54] <jedix> it's the second time I tried to use it
[14:54] <jedix> the first, I had to send it back
[14:57] <contrast> yeah... i don't generally shy away from the cli (yakuake is always the first package i install), but given how often i'm adding different repo's, disabling/re-enabling them, etc., the GUI tools have started to prove quite convenient.
[15:13] <tertl3> is thier a kubuntu-offtopic channel?
[15:15] <Linkmaster> tertl3: Yeah, its #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:16] <tertl3> Linkmaster: is it very active?
[15:16] <tertl3> seems kinda dead with only 30 people
[15:17] <Linkmaster> Its fairly active, though it helps if more people get in it
[15:17] <Linkmaster> I mean, the last post was today at 10:14, and its an ongoing discussion, so its pretty active
[15:19] <zelda> In Kubuntu 11.04 there is no option to select/change/mute fron or back mic.
[15:19] <zelda> All I see are 4 tabs named "playback device", "capture devices", PLayback streams" and "capture streams"
[15:20] <zelda> How should I say to kmix to mute thr front mic and only allow back mic?
[15:21] <zelda> Also I used to have many channles to modify in debian kde, like  PCM, line in, CD. where are they in Kubuntu Kmix?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !alsa | zelda
[15:24] <om76> hi
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zelda, open alsamixer in a terminal , and set your controls there ..it will change them ,kmix is just the gui
[15:26] <BluesKaj> and not very representative of all that alsamixer can do
[15:27] <zelda> BluesKaj: Thanks even the "gnome-volume-control" has no options, alsamixer has everything.
[15:27] <marcin_19883> hello
[15:28] <BluesKaj> yup zelda , and you can use the M key to unmute/mute various ctrls
[15:28] <zelda> but still wondering why debian kde kmix has all the controls alsamixer shows, but here in kubuntu it is not
[15:28] <zelda> yep I am figuring it out thanks.
[15:29] <BluesKaj> zelda, I think you can install a gui that is an alsamixer gui clone , but I forget the app's name
[15:31] <zelda> that would be cool, since I often need to adjust fron and back mics, and falling back to console is abit uneasy for me
[15:31] <zelda> hey but no wrrries, I am really liking alsamixer, it si very simple to use actually
[15:32] <marcin_19883> hello, I'm a new kubuntu 11.04 and I'm wondering how to install windows fonts? please help
[15:33] <BluesKaj> zelda, and,  sudo alsactl store , is supposed to save one's alsmixer settings in the config file , but I'm not real confident about it ,... seems to lose it's settings after upgrades , so keep an eye on that
[15:34] <contrast> zelda: there are a couple plasmoids you might want to look into... compacting the url's now :)
[15:35] <marcin_19883> hello, I'm a new kubuntu 11.04 and I'm wondering how to install windows fonts?
[15:35] <zelda> BluesKaj: Sure I will keep an eye on it.
[15:36] <contrast> Veromix: http://is.gd/uUTIUu and ALSA Volume Control: http://is.gd/5L2paL
[15:36] <contrast> zelda: Those are both just scripts, so you can install them via Get Hot New Stuff (no compiling necessary)
[15:37] <zelda> contrast: wow thanks, they are super handy.
[15:39] <contrast> Veromix is awesome. It's the one and only thing that really sold me on PulseAudio. I disabled KMix months ago (add "AutoStart=false" to ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc and disable KMixD in System Settings -> Service Manager) and haven't missed it at all since.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> cool contrast , that's the gui I was referring to http://is.gd/5L2paL
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I disabled pulseaudio :)
[15:40] <contrast> I always did too back when I was still playing games on Kubuntu... You know if it still give headaches in that department?
[15:43] <snikker> how can i disable the touchpad while using the keyboard on notebook?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> contrast, depends on the soundcard , pci cards benfit from PA ,but mobo/integrateds not so much IME
[15:45] <contrast> snikker: What release of Kubuntu are you using?
[15:45] <snikker> contrast: natty
[15:46] <contrast> snikker: synaptiks; it should be installed by default.
[15:47] <snikker> contrast: yes synapiks is installed, but i don't have the option for disable the touchpad while typing on keyboard
[15:49] <contrast> snikker: http://i.imgur.com/ODoF7.png - Or do you mean you see the option but it's greyed out?
[15:50] <snikker> contrast:  mine is a little bit different... i don't have "touchpad management"...
[15:51] <contrast> snikker: Are you in System Settings? Because you won't find it there. You have to run synaptiks directly (Kickoff -> Applications -> Utilities)
[15:53] <snikker> contrast: ah ok... i was in system settings... (blush)
[15:53] <snikker> contrast: thank you
[15:53] <contrast> No prob ;)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> synaptiks should be in system settings tho , it's the logical place for it
[15:54] <contrast> Agreed.
[15:55] <charolastra> hi, after the upgrade my dragon player doesn't play videos from a samba share anymore (black screen in player and media doesn't load); any idea what's wrong or if there is a logfile or status display somewhere?
[15:55] <contrast> BluesKaj: KCM's always have to have their own .so file, correct?
[15:56] <contrast> In order to show up in System Settings, I mean.
[16:13] <pilmee> saludos
[16:14] <BluesKaj> contrast, could be..never really looked into it
[16:17] <contrast> That reminds me, actually; anyone know of how to get BasKet integrated into Kontact? I read somewhere that this is working in SVN, but it wasn't when I tried it (unless this requires a nightly build of KDEPIM as well).
[16:19]  * BluesKaj removed kmail and kontact ...became too difficult to connect to my ISP since it contracted out to hotmail's servers
[16:20] <contrast> Ouch... I'd be moving to a new area if that's what it took to get an ISP that doesn't do some garbage like that. :P
[16:22] <BluesKaj> I did , it became webmail , so now it's similar to windows live or een gmail , so I use gmail instead and my old email addy is still on the webmail server
[16:27] <contrast> So... Sometime ~shortly before Beta 1 of Natty came out, some of PowerDevil's functionality went out the window on my laptop, namely automatically changing the screen brightness based on the loaded profile and custom power button/lid-closing actions. Any ideas?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> ohh, thanks for the warning contrast , I did see some compaints about no control over screen brightness and power settings , but dunno if there are fixes . Daughter is using my laptop right now til she gets settled in , then we'll deliver her Imac when ready. I'd better keep my eye on that problem for when my laptop is returned to me.
[16:33] <contrast> well, i'm still able to manually change the screen brightness, so it's not that bad... just kinda sucks that the 5 minutes i spent setting up power profiles is now a waste.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah, even back when I had lucid installed on the laptop , the power preofiles were real flaky
[16:36] <contrast> they've pretty much always worked perfectly for me... i guess there has to be at least one thing with each release that doesn't go smoothly for me though.
[16:37] <BluesKaj> contrast, the biggest problem I've seen here with laptops is wifi drivers
[16:38] <contrast> i did have an issue with that at first when i was upgrading my mom's laptop, but "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer" took care of it.
[16:43] <atdprhs> peace and graf_wasterholt!!!
[16:44] <atdprhs> #join overflow
[16:44] <BluesKaj> atdprhs, ??
[16:44] <atdprhs> #join thing is a mistake...
[16:45] <Pici> atdprhs: /join #channel
[16:45] <atdprhs> I figured it out, everytime i join a channel, I have to make that mistake first then I use the right one "/"
[16:45] <Pici> Seems many people do.
[16:46] <atdprhs> not used to the IRC... :S
[16:46] <contrast> The "#" isn't even needed in Konversation. Not sure about Quassel though.
[16:53] <genii-around> contrast: Not needed in Quassel either
[16:55] <contrast> It might just be because Konversation was the first IRC client I used, but Quassel always felt so clunky to me... Its tab previews are the only thing I remotely miss in Konversation.
[16:57] <contrast> Anyone know if it's possible to disable the text on KWin's titlebars? Been googling that for a while now to no avail.
[16:58] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi.
[16:58] <contrast> Yo.
[16:59] <Peace-> hi guys
[16:59] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah quassel was always fugly to me and the sidebar tree isn't to my taste , konversation is my preference
[16:59] <Peace-> +1 BluesKaj
[16:59] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi contrast and Peace-.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> hey Peace-
[16:59] <Peace-> :)
[17:01] <erik333> I'm surprised the influx in this channel ins't larger than it is now that canonical are switching to mobile phone DE
[17:02] <MadRobot> Hi all
[17:03] <MadRobot> For some reason,  it seems I have two keyboard shortcuts for copying. How do I cancel one of them?
[17:03] <erik333> which two do you have?
[17:03] <erik333> out of pure interest
[17:04] <MadRobot> erik333, Ctrl-V and Alt-shift
[17:04] <contrast> I gotta say though, the decision to ship Quassel as a default app is nowhere near as bad as the choice to ship Dragon Player.
[17:04] <erik333> simply marking at text puts iit in buffer as well, typically
[17:05] <MadRobot> erik333, I want to cancel alt+shift because I want t o use it for changing layouts.
[17:05] <contrast> Blah... Life calls. Peace out, y'all.
[17:06] <MadRobot> erik333, as I said, I want to cancel alt-shift because it's assigned for switching layouts. How do I do that?
[17:06] <erik333> menu->computer->common appearance and behavior->shortcuts and gestures->standard keyboard shortcuts
[17:07] <erik333> mine seem to be ctrl+c and ctrl+ins tho
[17:08] <BluesKaj> erik333, this a kde chat  :)
[17:09] <erik333> thats where i find it in my kde menu tho
[17:10] <BluesKaj>  menu->computer->common appearance ?
[17:10] <erik333> whoups a system settings
[17:10] <erik333> missing
[17:11] <erik333> menu->computer->system settings->common appearance and behavior->shortcuts and gestures->standard keyboard shortcuts
[17:11] <BluesKaj> I think in the kmenu it's in system settings/input devices
[17:12] <BluesKaj> erik333, what kde version and OS are you rnning?
[17:13] <erik333> ubuntu 11.04 with kubuntu-desktop installed
[17:16] <erik333> I assume that changing the layout shortcut there is clever enough to remove it from the general shortcut settings?
[17:16]  * BluesKaj is too set in his ways ,,never ued the computer option :)
[17:21] <erik333> I'm very new to kde though, was always a fluxboxer at univ. Switched to kubuntu-desktop since ubuntu-desktop seems to angle for touchpads. (yes im aware there is a -classic mode, for now)
[17:22] <erik333> kde is actually damned nice imo
[17:23] <Peace-> erik333: you can boost it for example
[17:23] <erik333> aatleast now when i can afford proper hardware and never do any programming - so i can waste system resources all i want ;P
[17:23] <BluesKaj> I prefer kde and always have , gnome has always looked like the graphics were generated by Disney or ther cartoon animators :)
[17:23] <Peace-> buhahahhahahhahahaha BluesKaj
[17:23] <BluesKaj> oher
[17:24] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have tried unity...
[17:24] <Peace-> BluesKaj: beta software
[17:24] <erik333> I don't mind normal gnome much tbh, though i hear rumors they are going along the unity tangent in future
[17:24] <wols_> Peace-: that's too generous :)
[17:24] <Peace-> wols_: xD
[17:25] <Peace-> well i am Peace-
[17:25] <erik333> even bug free unity would be complete garbage on a desktop system
[17:25] <BluesKaj> I did try Unity too, just to see what all the fuss was about ...it lasted 2 days on my other desktop :)
[17:25] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ahhahaah i have a funny video about that
[17:25] <erik333> prolly ok on a tablet pc though
[17:26] <BluesKaj> erik333, ubuntu is aiming at mobile devices ?
[17:26] <Peace-> BluesKaj: look 7 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0PsJMylIpk
[17:26] <Peace-> erik333: you can install plasma mobile
[17:26] <erik333> unity desktop is, by appearances
[17:26] <Peace-> plasma netbook
[17:26] <Peace-> xD
[17:27] <erik333> and is the standard DE...
[17:27] <erik333> atleast ask if im on limited screen space before making that default :P
[17:28] <erik333> the damned search field covered 20x40cm screen space on my main monitor
[17:28] <erik333> I mean wtf
[17:28] <JuJuBee> I installed 10.10 fresh and tried to install kde 4.6 using directions from http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-kde-4-6-kubuntu-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick/ but am still at kde 4.5.5
[17:29] <Peace-> guys
[17:29] <Peace-> !offtopic | Peace- erik333
[17:29] <Peace-> xD
[17:29] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee,  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then update and upgrade
[17:29] <JuJuBee> BluesKaj: dist-upgrade or apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[17:30] <BluesKaj>  dist-upgrade, JuJuBee
[17:30] <JuJuBee> K
[17:30] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[17:30] <BluesKaj> np
[17:37] <shannon> .
[17:37] <D-coy> ,
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ducky
[17:45] <BluesKaj> stuff to do ...BBL
[17:50] <designup> anybody knows why my ubuntu 11.04 doesnt "see" my Wireless Network, which is amplified by a FRITZ WLAN repeater n/g ?? ANY other wlan is detected perfectly!! need some help please.... :(
[17:50] <designup> anybody knows why my ubuntu 11.04 doesnt "see" my Wireless Network, which is amplified by a FRITZ WLAN repeater n/g ?? ANY other wlan is detected perfectly!! need some help please.... :(
[17:58] <setuid_w00t> How can I tell which version of grub my system was using when I am booted into a Ubuntu install CD and I have my "/" partition mounted?
[18:04] <arpan> setuid_w00t: are you trying to restore grub using live cd?
[18:37] <darkarchon> hi all, should i take 32bit or 64bit? i'm not quite sure
[18:38] <wols_> darkarchon: depends. how much RAM do you have?
[18:38] <darkarchon> or better said, is highmem support up to 64g enabled in the kubuntu kernel?
[18:38] <darkarchon> 8 gigs
[18:39] <darkarchon> i find it difficult to decide, havnig a binary distro i'd usually prefer 32bit
[18:39] <wols_> yes, (k)ubuntu automatically uses a PAE kernel but with that amount of RAM I'd go 64bit
[18:39] <darkarchon> but having 8gigs of ram makes me feel kind of meh regarding pae etc.
[18:40] <wols_> the distro is not the problem for 64bit ness. it's all the crappy proprietary software. mostly flash and java
[18:40] <wols_> and both have solutions now
[18:40] <darkarchon> ok
[18:40] <darkarchon> i used to use 64bit a while ago in a binary distro and it was kind of a pita, changed to a source based distro though
[18:41] <wols_> maybe 3rd party software like PPAs make it harder to use 64bit. but that's all
[18:41] <wols_> the core distro is fine with it
[18:41] <darkarchon> ok
[18:44] <darkarchon> wols_: also, regarding nvidia proprietary drivers and multimonitorsupport feat. xinerama inkluding opengl acceleration and one display in pivot, possible?
[18:44] <darkarchon> i feel like i'm the only one with such a setup
[18:49] <masterjp> Русский канал????
[18:58] <contrast> Anyone else experienced this bug: http://i.imgur.com/6LYuM.png ? Everytime it happens (>= 2-3 times a day), I have to manually restart Plasma.
[18:59] <Graf_Westerholt> No, I did not experience this bug.
[19:00] <wols_> darkarchon: I can certainly say, I don't have this setup. But generally, if this works in 32bit, so it will in 64, no?
[19:00] <wols_> or what in it is 64bit specific?
[19:00] <darkarchon> wols_: this is in general, not 32-64 specific
[19:00] <darkarchon> i haven't tried yet
[19:01] <contrast> It's pretty maddening... Just an endless stream of resource-hogging untraceable blank file transfers until I kill plasma-desktop.
[19:05] <jozefk> what was the KDE version in kubuntu 10.10?
[19:06] <darkarchon> 4.5.4 i guess
[19:06] <darkarchon> not quite sure though
[19:07] <jozefk> where I can see?
[19:07] <darkarchon> in any kde program in help - about kde
[19:08] <contrast> 4.5.1 - http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/kdelibs5
[19:08] <freakx> hi
[19:08] <jozefk> ok thanks
[19:09] <freakx> i have radeon hd3200 graphic card, lcd brightness buttons doesnt work, but when i set full brightness on battery and unplug power cable, screen is going 100% bright :D how to set it as default?
[19:10] <freakx> i've try to set profile with 100% brightness as default with connected power, but it doesnt work
[19:45] <freakx> anyone?
[20:01] <GeorgeJ> I'm reinstalling the OS on my Asus EEpc 701
[20:01] <GeorgeJ> I'm installing using netinstall
[20:02] <GeorgeJ> Should I go with Kubuntu mobile?
[20:04] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: nope
[20:04] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: netbook
[20:04] <Peace-> kubuntu netbook
[20:05] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: btw use kubuntu-desktop
[20:05] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: then if you want the netbook layout you can click right button on the destkop
[20:05] <Peace-> and select searcha and lauch
[20:06] <GeorgeJ> Peace-: Yeah, the netinstall doesn't seem to have Kubuntu netbook in the tasksel, only Kubuntu mobile and desktop. There is however an Ubuntu netbook edition
[20:06] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: that because kubuntu desktop is fused with netbook
[20:07] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: look at that http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/04/plasma-desktophV1404.jpg
[20:07] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook
[20:07] <GeorgeJ> Peace-: Awesome! Can you post a pic with the netbook interface please?
[20:08] <Peace-> of couse
[20:09] <amichair> what setting needs to be set (in Maverick) in order to get the 'upgrade to Natty' notification?
[20:09] <Peace-> well i keep my panels but you ca delete that
[20:09] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/04/plasma-desktopzY1404.jpg
[20:09] <GeorgeJ> Peace-: That looks awesome! Thanks :D
[20:10] <GeorgeJ> Hopefully there won't be any performance issues on the EEpc 701, its quite an old model
[20:11] <GeorgeJ> I'm runing the net installer, I installed Kubuntu mobile the first time and it wouldn't start the GUI, so I'll just install a minimal console atm then tasksel kubuntu desktop
[20:11] <amichair> what setting needs to be set (in Maverick) in order to get the 'upgrade to Natty' notification?
[20:11] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: i have an intel 945gm here
[20:11] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: it works fine
[20:12] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: mobile it's somethign like this
[20:13] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: xD i have just done this pkill plasma-desktop && plasma-mobile
[20:13] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/04/plasma-desktopG17891.jpg
[20:14] <GeorgeJ> Haha, nice
[20:14] <GeorgeJ> I guess mine didn't start because it lacks drivers or something
[20:14] <Peace-> ups was thsi
[20:14] <Peace-> GeorgeJ: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/04/plasma-desktopx17946.jpg
[20:15] <GeorgeJ> Peace-: Love the look, is that the default?
[20:15] <Peace-> yes
[20:15] <Peace-> just isstalla plasma-mobile
[20:27] <kalib> hi people. I was trying to run: # aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree..
[20:28] <kalib> but got an error exit status 139
[20:28] <kalib> how can I fix it?
[20:28] <kalib> got the same error when trying # aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:30] <BluesKaj> kalib, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer ...flashplugin-nonfree is included
[20:30] <amichair> kalib: no idea, but flashplugin-nonfree is being superceded by flashplugin-installer plugin
[20:30] <kalib> ok...
[20:30] <BluesKaj> kalib, don't use the #
[20:31] <kalib> ok
[20:34] <kalib> BluesKaj, amichair http://pastebin.com/DdUhUx7K
[20:35] <kalib> any idea?
[20:36] <amichair> kalib: sorry, nope
[20:52] <amichair> what setting needs to be set (in Maverick) in order to get the 'upgrade to Natty' notification?
[21:27] <GeorgeJ> What utility can I use to clean up some space?
[21:29] <bigbrovar> .
[21:51] <len> Does anyone know if the bug where the dolphin file chooser dialog opens behind other windows instead of in the forefront when is a KDE bug, or a Kubuntu specific bug?  Example:  Using web-based mail you need to attach a file so you press an attachment button.  A Dolphin dialog pops up and you attach the file.  You then decide to attach another file, so you hit the attach button again, but his time nothing seems to happen.  Then you realize that
[21:51] <len> the dialog did open, becauseyou can see it on the task bar--it just opened behind other windows where you can't see it.
[22:10] <noaXess> hey..
[22:10] <noaXess> normaly with selecting a text, click on left mouse button and then klick both mouse buttons in any other application, the selected text will be copied... but since 11.04 i can't do that.. is there any option to enable this?
[22:57] <astrocub> this guy has the best review of kde ever: http://www.youtube.com/user/bradfrenchenlocher
[23:22] <elric> Can anyone here help me update my Java?
[23:27] <Ricy> Can anyone help me with Kubuntu?
[23:29] <komodo169> len: I've had that happen before when kubuntu was seeking authentication for a root action.  had to do with my edsktop effects settings
[23:29] <komodo169> the authentication dialogue was appearing 'behind' other open windows
[23:30] <komodo169> Ricy:  whats the issue?
[23:33] <ubuntu_> this irc client is unusuable
[23:34] <komodo169> len: look under desktop effects in settings and then under the 'focus' section.
[23:34] <komodo169> len: also, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[23:43] <TheFriendlyOnes> would this be the right place to ask quick questions about kubuntu??
[23:43] <komodo169> TheFriendlyOnes: yes  :-)
[23:43] <TheFriendlyOnes> komodo169: sweet!
[23:44] <TheFriendlyOnes> well i recently got rid of the plague they call unity, and then decided why not ill try kubuntu again.
[23:45] <TheFriendlyOnes> i don't need to change any apt sources do i?
[23:46] <komodo169> TheFriendlyOnes: what version are you installing?  10.04 lts or 11.04, or....?
[23:47] <TheFriendlyOnes> I went from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 then to kubuntu 11.04 all updateing no clean installs
[23:49] <komodo169> wow  O_o
[23:49] <komodo169> so hows that working for ya?
[23:49] <TheFriendlyOnes> say well its been an adventure lol
[23:50] <komodo169> i bet.  so are you having an issue with it?
[23:50] <komodo169> your OS that is?
[23:50] <TheFriendlyOnes> no not at all
[23:51] <TheFriendlyOnes> just checking that im not installing ubuntu packages if there anydifferent then kubuntu packages
[23:52] <komodo169> oh.  i see
[23:53] <komodo169> just looking at my sources.list they are basically the same
[23:53] <komodo169> it's 'natty' that matters and not kde or gnome
[23:54] <TheFriendlyOnes> yea thats what i have
[23:54] <komodo169> i.e - the version and not the flavor
[23:54] <komodo169> now if you are adventurous you can mess around with the sources.list, BUT i would not recommend it for the sake of sanity
[23:55] <TheFriendlyOnes> lol i always do, im just checking
[23:57] <komodo169> okee dokee    :D


[05:39] <hdon> hey guys. i play an FPS game online occasionally. i recently switched to Ubuntu (jaunty) and i am having a problem. it seems that the sound latency is very high. my instinct tells me to blame this on the sound mixer daemon. can anyone give me advice on:
[05:39] <hdon> 1) disabling the sound mixer daemon and giving my game direct access to the audio dac
[05:39] <hdon> 2) changing options for sound mixer daemon to decrease latency
[05:40] <hdon> or 3) getting the source code for the sound mixer daemon so i can see if i can improve it
[07:19] <ebroder> I'm working on a script to install a VM (no, none of the ones that exist work for various reasons). Does anybody know how to install grub onto a block device when, e.g., /dev is laid out differently from how it will be for the guest?
[08:23] <alkisg> asac: I tried putting https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/trunk in my sources and I still got the same problem (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/391040).
[08:23] <alkisg> But there's another problem now, the "[ ] Available to all users" checkbox is grayed out and I can't check it at all, even if I run nm-connection-editor with sudo.
[09:17] <Keybuk> wow
[09:18] <Keybuk> the new "Add comment" not-a-button AJAXness is confusing
[10:05] <TheMuso> c
[10:22] <Keybuk> 1 program still needs to close:
[10:22] <Keybuk> (Waiting for) explorer.exe
[10:23] <Keybuk> Playing logoff sound...
[10:23] <Keybuk> To close the program that is preventing Windows from restarting,
[10:23] <Keybuk> click Cancel, and then close the program.
[10:23] <Keybuk> *seriously*
[10:38] <directhex> Keybuk, is Windows ready for the desktop?
[10:44] <gnarl> cjwatson, Do you know whether fb=false as a boot argument would change something within the alternate installer?
[10:45] <cjwatson> yeah, disables its use of the framebuffer
[10:47] <gnarl> cjwatson, Ok, so that is parsed there then. So the alternative is some serial mode then?
[10:48] <Daviey> talking of which.. /me wonders of the possibility of serial support in the shipped memtest :)
[10:48] <Daviey> it's a compile option now iirc
[10:49] <cjwatson> gnarl: no, plain console
[10:49] <cjwatson> UTF-8 doesn't work right in that case, so the language selection is cut way down
[10:51] <smoser> james_w, i'm told you can bump import priority of a package getting pulled into bzr launchpad.... can you do that for schroot ? ie : https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/schroot
[10:51] <cjwatson> you get only the languages that are representable within ISO-8859-1, so basically Western European languages
[10:51] <gnarl> cjwatson, Ok. Thanks for that. Seems some ati cards do not like the fbcon... but run without
[11:17] <soren> cjwatson: It doesn't look familiar, I'm afraid. I do know, though, that putting the NC on the same box as the CC/CLC is known to be "interesting".
[11:51] <TheMuso> slangasek: like your comment re reiserfsprogs. :) For some reason, I found it somewhat amusing.
[11:52] <slangasek> it leaves so much unsaid
[11:59] <directhex> i missed a joke? :(
[11:59] <james_w> smoser: I'm working on it, but found a bug I want to fix first, sorry
[11:59] <smoser> james_w, no problem
[12:02] <cjwatson> soren: bugger. I really don't want to have to wrangle multiple machines for this test. But regardless I think it's happening even before the NC is started
[12:03] <soren> cjwatson: Did you just installe the packages or did you do any of the configuration bits?
[12:04] <cjwatson> soren: I think I just installed them
[12:04] <cjwatson> (it was yesterday, moved on to iscsi today so dumped some of the swap ...)
[12:05] <cjwatson> I believe I was loosely following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Eucalyptus
[12:30] <TheMuso> c
[12:40] <pitti> Riddell: is this still a valid heuristics for "KDE is running"? "pgrep -x -u 1000 ksmserver"
[12:40] <pitti> Riddell: (it's currently what ubuntu-bug is testing)
[12:41] <ojwb> i'd think $UID would be better than 1000
[12:42] <pitti> ojwb: sure, it does that
[12:42] <Riddell> pitti: yes that should be fine
[12:42] <pitti> well, it uses `id -u`
[12:42] <pitti> Riddell: cheers
[12:42] <ojwb> ah
[14:05] <cjwatson> TheMuso: Constructing pulseaudio-module-rygel-media-server--dbg_0.9.16~test3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[14:05] <cjwatson> TheMuso: shouldn't that "--dbg" be "-dbg"?
[14:40] <blackxored> hello everybody
[14:42] <jpds> jdstrand_: I cannot get on a wireless network after the latest apparmor upgrade on Karmic: [  154.835033] type=1503 audit(1249393261.621:28): operation="capable" pid=4104 parent=3124 profile="/sbin/dhclient3" name="net_raw"
[14:43] <directhex> can someone un-private 408499 ?
[14:48] <Pici> jpds: Is there a bug logged on that? Lots of people in #ubuntu+1 are scrambling around looking for the cause of their network woes
[14:50] <cjwatson> Pici: the kernel team's looking at it at the moment, I believe
[14:50] <cjwatson> apw: ^-
[14:50] <Pici> cjwatson: okay :)
[14:50] <cjwatson> which isn't to say somebody shouldn't file a bug with details ...
[14:51] <Pici> Bug 408862 was logged a little bit ago
[15:08] <jdstrand> jpds: known bug, it is fixed
[15:08] <jdstrand> jpds: just do /etc/init.d/apparmor stop, get networking going, then upgrade apparmor to ubuntu9
[15:09] <apw> cjwatson, the above incantation will be added to the bug shortly ...
[15:15] <jdstrand> jpds: depending on how you start networking, possibly need to also restart networkmanager
[15:23] <jpds> jdstrand: Hmm, OK; looks like ubuntu9 isn't on the gb.archive mirror.
[15:32] <slangasek> mathiaz: ok, no, mysql-dfsg-5.1 doesn't FTBFS for me on Debian/amd64
[15:33] <slangasek> mathiaz: so I guess the symbols file is correct, even if the use of yassl is gratuitous
[15:36] <mathiaz> slangasek: so does it still make sense to remove the symbols.amd64 file in Ubuntu?
[15:36] <mathiaz> slangasek: or should the file just be updated?
[15:36] <slangasek> mathiaz: remove it
[15:36] <stefanlsd> mathiaz: the symbols documentation i wrote help somewhat?
[15:37] <slangasek> stefanlsd: it's a C++ library exporting lots of garbage internal symbols - documentation is not the problem here, it's finding a sane path out :-)
[15:38] <stefanlsd> slangasek: heh. sounds messy.  oki. cool :)
[15:39] <Riddell> ArneGoetje: where are you?
[15:39] <doko> Laibsch: any reason you reset the status of bug reports form triaged to invalid without checking?
[15:39] <jdstrand> jpds: it was uploaded a couple hours ago, so it needs to propagate
[15:41] <jpds> jdstrand: Yep, thanks :)
[15:44] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: Community room
[15:44] <doko> Laibsch: you're undoing the work of the people who did triage the reports. this kind of "work" is no help
[15:44] <Laibsch> doko: yes.  how about "with the help of the OP I confirmed a couple of bugs where errouneously still left open" by just doing that?
[15:44] <Laibsch> doko: nonsense
[15:44] <Laibsch> Look at the reply in the bug
[15:45] <Laibsch> And tell me why you want to discuss this in public
[15:45] <doko> Laibsch: for bug 39068 even you can check where the file is located. then just add a comment `confirmed' or something like this
[15:46] <Laibsch> sorry, I did not really understand the issue in the bug
[15:46] <Laibsch> I'll admit that
[15:46] <Laibsch> a bug untouched for three-and-a-half years should be OK for a ping
[15:46] <mterry> w00t, upgrading-checklist is now published online: http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/upgrading-checklist.txt
[15:46] <Laibsch> I'm not pinging after three month like others do
[15:46] <Laibsch> so, yes, doko, your tone was absolutely uncalled for
[15:47] <doko> Laibsch: well, you'r not touching bug 1 in the same manner, do you?
[15:47] <Laibsch> I don't even know what to answer to that
[15:47] <Laibsch> apples and oranges doesn't even come close
[15:48] <Laibsch> I also don't think that bug hasn't had anybody make an addition for 3,5 years
[15:48] <Laibsch> that bug 1 ...
[15:54] <Riddell> asac: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/kde-4.3/
[15:56] <asac> Riddell: http://tinyvid.tv/ ... those should work
[15:56] <asac> Riddell: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/video/
[16:00] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: do you need anything from me?
[16:00] <Riddell> ArneGoetje: are .pdf files preferred modifiable form?
[16:01] <Riddell> hmm, typo
[16:01] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: ?
[16:02] <Riddell> ArneGoetje: are .odf files preferred modifiable form?
[16:02] <Riddell> no, still wrong
[16:02] <Riddell> ArneGoetje: are .otf files preferred modifiable form?
[16:02] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: for what purpose?
[16:02] <Riddell> for making fonts
[16:03] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: wait a moment, I'm coming over...
[16:05] <ArneGoetje> Riddell: where are you?
[16:08] <Riddell> ArneGoetje: desktop room,
[16:08] <Riddell> o'connel
[16:37] <TheMuso> cjwatson: Ok, so after further processing of the dependencies of pulseaudio needing bi-arch packages to allow pulse libs to be bi-arch, we have a total of 13 packages. Some were trimmed, but some have been added since then. Here is the list of source packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/247292/
[16:37] <TheMuso> Question is, whether this is worth pursuing.
[16:37] <TheMuso> If so, then while I can help with some, I certainly don't think I have the time to help with all, at least not till after feature freeze.
[16:40] <cjwatson> with that sort of number, I guess it's a question of whether slangasek thinks multiarch will be ready enough in time to cover this much
[16:40] <cjwatson> this is a regression from jaunty, I'm told, and therefore it's ipso facto worth pursuing
[16:41] <ogra> cjwatson, can you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/debian-cd/ubuntu once again ?
[16:44] <TheMuso> cjwatson: Ok I think we could ask various teams who maintain some of those packages to help us out, and I could certainly get some of the others done, however I still have a fair bit of code to write before feature freeze, so maybe the community can help with the rest, of which I'd be happy to sponsor.
[16:47] <cjwatson> ogra: done, thanks
[16:47] <slangasek> cjwatson: mutter, mumble, <hack hack>
[16:48] <ogra> cjwatson, thanks as well :)
[16:48] <TheMuso> slangasek: Heh I am not so pleased as to the not so elligant solution.
[16:48] <TheMuso> either
[16:48] <liw`> doko, are you working on the eglibc resolver bug?
[16:49] <slangasek> TheMuso: sorry, I mean "pardon me while I hack on multiarch instead of answering"
[16:49] <TheMuso> slangasek: ah ok. :)
[16:50] <doko> liw`: no, currently in a breakout session :-/
[16:51] <doko> liw`: same with the debian package, so no compiler difference with 4.3/4.4
[16:51] <liw`> doko, ack
[17:00] <TheMuso> Well I'll start working on packages locally, and wont' upload them till an answer is given. :)
[17:17] <Tronic> Why does a bug search for "performous" find a lot of bugs (that apparently don't contain that term)?
[17:17] <Tronic> => how do I search for bugs related to this package?
[17:19] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/performous/+bugs
[17:20] <Tronic> Is it possible to access this from UI or do I need to edit the URL?
[17:21] <Pici> Tronic: Find the package in Ubuntu on Launchpad and then click on the bugs tab
[17:22] <cjwatson> (launchpad.net/ubuntu -> Find a Package)
[17:26] <AnAnt> Hello, is it possible for a python app using notify OSD (pynotify) to disable a certain capability ( which is truncation) ?
[17:29] <Tronic> Thanks, that helps :)
[17:29] <Tronic> I still wonder why performous would find so many bugs, though.
[17:29] <cjwatson> fuzzy matching? somebody's username? dunno
[18:32] <superm1> pitti, i was just running jockey and came across bug 403925 and noticed you fixed it in rev# 364 if you want to add information to debian/changelog to close it on next upload
[18:51] <pitti> superm1: thanks! done
[19:51] <bigon> does anyone use cowbuilder-dist on karmic for building sid pkg?
[19:52] <bigon> because it doesn't work here for me
[19:53] <Daviey> bigon: I just cowbuilder-dist on jaunty for building sid packages, if that helps?
[19:55] <bigon> it is working for me too on jaunty, ok I will investigate
[19:55] <bigon> thx
[21:34] <ebroder> Has anybody ever managed to install grub onto a loop device?
[21:41] <directhex> can't say i've ever felt the need to try
[22:01] <dschulz> hi all
[22:01] <dschulz> just upgraded the kernel to 2.6.31-5-generic #24 and it seems there's a regression
[22:02] <dschulz> inotify is missing events
[22:04] <azeem> dschulz: sounds like something you should investigate upstream
[22:04] <azeem> judd: kernel versions
[22:05] <azeem> hrm, wrong window, sorrrrry :)
[22:05] <ebroder> directhex: I'm working on a VM installer
[22:05] <dschulz> azeem: ok
[22:54] <directhex> doko, irritating contentless ping
[22:54] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dutch/+bug/407951 <- somebody want to check this ?
[23:13] <soren> Do I need to file a bug to get a package synced or can a friendly archive-admin sync poldi from Debian for me?
[23:15] <StevenK> soren: There's no Ubuntu changes, but it builds and installs fine?
[23:15] <soren> StevenK: Yes.
[23:17] <StevenK> soren: Synced.
[23:17] <soren> StevenK: Thanks very much.
[23:18] <TheMuso> cjwatson: I think we need to get bi-arch pulse solved ASAP, as I am already receiving bug reports from users that skype/insert app here are not working due to the pulse alsa plugin missing from /usr/lib32/alsa-lib


[14:08] <mup> PR operator#804 opened: doc fix for config-changed <Created by PietroPasotti> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/804>


[00:00] <czajkowski> so has my vote considering the amount I had to do
[00:00] <czajkowski> right sleep lark before the NYE celebrations tomorrow
[00:00] <JanC> depends on the local shop I suppose
[00:06] <JanC> (by "local shop" I mean "local web shop")
[00:08] <JanC> and really, I think it's more useful to give people the search results *they* want than to force "your selection" on them
[00:19] <AlanBell> JanC: yeah, but that depends on there being a web shop with a functional API and preferably affiliate scheme that can pay out in the currency and country of choice
[00:20] <AlanBell> I am quite keen to do more shops if I can find useful ones to do, probably mainstream shops rather than geeky shops
[00:20] <AlanBell> like supermarkets and hardware stores etc
[00:22] <JanC> AlanBell: as long as searching shops isn't enabled by default, and the selection of shops can be localised, that sounds like a good idea  ☺
[00:23] <JanC> well, a "shopping lens" would have installed shops enabled by default, of course
[00:23] <AlanBell> I like that the thing I did allows someone to shop on amazon.co.jp with descriptions and prices in yen and I can earn commission in GBP
[00:28] <AlanBell> anyone want to reddit http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2012/12/shopping-lens-for-gnome-shell/ or https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/564/amazon-shopping/ ?
[00:31] <JanC> having local shops available is really important
[00:39] <JanC> (that's also an important problem with U1MS BTW)
[01:27] <mhall119> AlanBell: http://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/15p7ie/new_amazon_shopping_search_provider_for_gnome/
[01:28] <mhall119> also http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/15p7kb/new_amazon_shopping_search_provider_for_gnome/
[01:39] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: :)
[03:42] <jussi> AlanBell: are you theopensourcerer?
[09:45] <czajkowski> jussi: nope that would the theopensourcer :)
[09:51] <AlanBell> jussi: no, that is Alan Lord
[09:51] <AlanBell> but theopensourcerer.com is a blog that we both use
[09:51] <AlanBell> thanks mhall119, it found its way to slashdot too :)
[10:58] <Tm_T> alourie: I'm disappointed, the blog is still online, no proper slashdot effect ):
[10:58] <Tm_T> AlanBell: even ^
[10:58]  * Tm_T gets more coffee before he fails more with tabfill
[11:06] <AlanBell> only 1780 blog hits today so far :)
[11:08] <AlanBell> our biggest ever day was 4,707 hits which was another slashdotting
[11:08] <AlanBell> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/07/getting-your-microsoft-tax-refunded-1010-for-amazon-uk/
[11:08] <AlanBell> for that article
[11:10] <AlanBell> http://slashdot.org/story/09/07/23/1855211/Amazon-UK-Refunds-Windows-License-Fee-With-Little-Hassle but that was an Alan Lord article, this is one of my slashdottings :)
[11:16] <popey> slashdot isnt anywhere near as popular as it used to be
[11:16] <popey> probably get more traffic from reddit front page than /.
[11:22] <AlanBell> last time we got more hits from linuxtoday.com than slashdot (just about)
[11:23] <AlanBell> today there are 688 from slashdot and 151 from reddit
[11:23] <AlanBell> oh, actually 902 from slashdot
[11:25] <AlanBell> reddit is odd, just a link and comments, no actual article
[11:29] <popey> you'd get more from reddit if you hit the front page
[11:29] <popey> but they are fickle :)
[11:58] <AlanBell> how does that happen? lots of upvotes or something?
[11:59] <AlanBell> reddit is so slow
[16:38] <mhall119> AlanBell: you're actually responding to /. comments? brave man
[16:48] <nigelb> mhall119: lol
[16:50] <IdleOne> quick scan shows a lot less flames than expected.
[16:52] <mhall119> Yet still more than there should be
[16:52] <IdleOne> Without fire what would be the point
[17:02] <mhall119> greed, didn't you read the comments?
[17:04] <AlanBell> mhall119: yes, I respond to comments in lots of places
[17:08] <IdleOne> greed is a powerful incentive but that lens was not designed with greed in mind I think.
[17:09] <IdleOne> had it been he would not have made it possible to change the affiliate code.
[17:10] <IdleOne> I could be wrong though. AlanBell does sometimes appear to be all about personal gain.
[17:10] <IdleOne> :P
[17:12] <AlanBell> looks like 2 people have bothered to change the affiliate code (and I made the epic fail of putting a typo in the default affiliate code which I have just fixed on the server side)
[17:13] <IdleOne> haha
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> Evening y'all, enjoying New Years Eve?
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; I heard there's an issue with Ubiquity? Do you know how seriously it's been picked up? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1084547
[18:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1084547 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unclear which part of disk will be allocated to Ubuntu when installing alongside other operating systems" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> And for images describing the problem more clearly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150550/installing-ubuntu-with-windows-which-is-left-and-right-when-allocating-space
[18:42] <AlanBell> I was not very aware of that one MrChrisDruif, I don't know if xnox is on the case or not
[18:43] <MrChrisDruif> It's not been allocated to anyone, so I guess not AlanBell ?
[18:43] <AlanBell> probably not
[18:44] <MrChrisDruif> Could you mention it to him/her? It seems like a serious issue if you ask me =)
[18:45] <jcastro> I know it's a known issue for a while now
[18:45] <jcastro> not sure what the status is though
[18:46] <popey> \o/ see http://ubuntu.com/ ☺
[18:49] <MrChrisDruif> 13.04 isn't that close right? What's it counting down to? O.o
[18:49] <daker> MrChrisDruif: new product www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/all-new-ubuntu-product-to-launch-jan-2nd-but-what-is-it
[18:49] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; Apparently it's Importance is "Undecided"
[18:50] <jcastro> bring it up to the desktop list I think
[18:51] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; mailing list you mean?
[18:51] <MrChrisDruif> daker; Thanks! =)
[18:51] <jcastro> yeah
[18:51] <jcastro> ubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <jcastro> or maybe the design list, but that one is kind of worthless
[18:53] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; I know. Not very productive I've noticed.
[19:06] <jcastro> marcoceppi: popey: is omg down for you guys?
[19:07] <marcoceppi> jcastro: appears up from here
[19:13] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; http://isup.me/omgubuntu.co.uk
[19:17] <IdleOne> does OMG not do any proof reading before hitting to POST button?
[19:24] <MrChrisDruif> IdleOne; I doubt it...
[20:13] <mhall119> IdleOne: they probably don't do peer editing, and self-editing doesn't catch nearly as much
[20:15] <IdleOne> mhall119: apparently it doesn't it doesn't
[20:15] <IdleOne>  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[20:20] <mhall119> that's the fanciest smiley I've ever seen IdleOne
[20:20] <IdleOne> I stole it from someone I don't remember who
[20:26] <mhall119> you stole someone's face?
[20:44] <IdleOne> mhall119: just the face, not the whole head :)
[20:44] <philipballew> morning
[20:44] <IdleOne> morning
[20:46]  * philipballew goes back to making pancakes
[20:46] <IdleOne> I'll take a short stack.
[20:46] <philipballew> Come on by IdleOne !
[20:47] <philipballew> ring in the ny in California
[21:25] <mhall119> philipballew: hey, can you do me a favor?
[21:25] <mhall119> can you tell me what the current ubuntu.com countdown time says for you?
[21:25] <mhall119> bkerensa: or you?
[21:25]  * philipballew looks
[21:26] <mhall119> someone on the west coast
[21:26] <philipballew> 36:35
[21:26] <mhall119> :(
[21:26] <mhall119> popey: you around?
[21:27] <mhall119> or AlanBell, anyone in the UK?
[21:27] <bkerensa> mhall119: 36:45:12
[21:28] <mhall119> dammit
[21:28] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: 39:32 for me
[21:29] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: what timezone are you?
[21:29] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: UTC-5
[21:29] <philipballew> http://imagebin.org/241256
[21:29] <mhall119> same as me then
[21:29] <mhall119> I think the countdown is adjusting for localtime, which doesn't seem like what they want
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> it is
[21:30] <mhall119> and even it it is adjusting, it's doing it wrong
[21:30] <mhall119> since PST has less time than EST
[21:30] <mhall119> not more
[21:32] <AlanBell> 44:28:42
[21:32] <mhall119> bugger
[21:32] <AlanBell> heh, yes that is backwards isn't it!
[21:33] <mhall119> looks like they were expecting localtime, but got UTC
[21:34] <AlanBell> oops. So, they will fix it when they get back to work on Wednesday, when the timer runs out
[21:34] <mhall119> :(
[21:35] <JoseeAntonioR> oops, great problem
[21:36] <mhall119> timezones suck
[21:36] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119: isn't there any way you can contact one of the sysadmins so they can fix it?
[21:38] <mhall119> I don't know if a sysadmin could, or if someone from the web team would need to do it
[21:41] <JoseeAntonioR> the code says 18:00 GMT, maybe 18:00 UTC would work?
[21:44] <mhall119> JoseeAntonioR: I think there's a problem in the code
[21:47] <JoseeAntonioR> there is
[23:00] <daker> 43 hours to go for me :)
[23:01] <philipballew> now I have to wait longer...
[23:01] <philipballew> sick of this.
[23:01] <philipballew> :)
[23:02] <AlanBell> oh, is it fixed?
[23:02] <philipballew> apparently.
[23:03]  * AlanBell sees a new line of code :)
[23:03] <daker> d = new Date(d.getUTCFullYear(),d.getUTCMonth(),d.getUTCDate(),d.getUTCHours() + vh,d.getUTCMinutes() + vm);
[23:03] <daker> now it's UTC
[23:05] <AlanBell> thats the one
[23:05] <AlanBell> 42:55:40
[23:13] <JoseeAntonioR> yes, fixed!
[23:28] <mhall119> yup, got it sorted, thanks everyone for helping
[23:32] <popey> evening all
[23:33] <philipballew> almost ny in England I see popey
[23:34] <popey> yeah, not long now
[23:34] <popey> nearly my bed time ☺
[23:42] <IdleOne> you know you're getting old when you're looking forward to midnight on new years eve so you can finally got to bed.
[23:44] <popey> feel free to go to bed before
[23:45]  * philipballew went to bed at 4:30 am last night and thinks it was a bad idea
[23:50] <SergioMeneses> hey hey happy new year!
[23:51] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks y'all =)


[13:13] <jhg_> well, I copied the initrd.img from /boot and that still didn't fix the issue, so I am a bit mystified as to why one kernel can find root and the other cannot.
[13:13] <jhg_> (copied the working one to the non-working variant)
[17:40] <jhg_> I suspect it is a .config difference resulting in the driver availability for the HP ProLiant DL360 Gen10 hardware.
[17:44] <jhg_> Specifically, aacraid.
[18:07] <jhg_> Are there any git repo mirrors? I am finding launchpad to be rather slow.
[20:27] <chiluk> jhg_: which kernel are you wanting to know about?
[20:28] <chiluk> nm ... reading backscroll.
[20:28] <jhg_> chiluk: 4.18.0-rc2+
[20:29] <chiluk> did you make oldconfig using the ubuntu config?
[20:29] <jhg_> It smells like a driver. Looking for differences in .config for kernel build. I expect something to get baked into the ubuntu kernels which would make those work while my homemade kernel build does not (or has it as a module).
[20:30] <jhg_> looking... need to finish checking out from launchpad git repo. =)
[20:30] <chiluk> jhg_: you might have better like running make oldconfig from one of the 4.15 kernels.
[20:30] <chiluk> jhg_: git clone --reference linux  ... if you have a local clone of linus' tree
[20:31] <jhg_> ah... that would save some time.
[20:32] <chiluk> yep..
[20:32] <chiluk> and lots of disk space...
[20:32] <jhg_> the list of drivers to look at is finite. lspci -k | grep module | awk '{print $3}' | uniq >> https://hastebin.com/ahaseqomes.rb
[20:33] <chiluk> make modules ; make modules install
[20:33] <chiluk> then rebuild your initramfs
[20:33] <chiluk> mkinitramfs
[20:34] <chiluk> just throwing out ideas here.
[20:34] <chiluk> sometimes a rubber duck can be useful.
[20:35] <chiluk> jhg_: if you don't need to be developing on a bleeding edge kernel you could be playing with the ubuntu trees...
[20:35] <chiluk> rubber ducking ->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huOPVqztPdc
[20:36] <jhg_> =)
[20:37] <chiluk> jhg_: those are available http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/?q=ubuntu%2F
[20:37] <jhg_> oh, one more thing: my custom kernels work in virtualbox, but not on the bare metal.
[20:38] <chiluk> that's probably because all the configs are set up to run on virtual machines without the need for modules.
[20:38] <jhg_> which is why I suspect it's a .config driver issue.
[20:38] <jhg_> right
[20:38] <chiluk> yep.
[20:38] <chiluk> alright sounds like you are on the right track...
[20:38] <jhg_> thanks, chiluk! =)
[20:38] <chiluk> I don't always pay attention to this channel since I'm no longer full-time Ubuntu dev... so good luck.
[20:40] <jhg_> chiluk: what are you up to these days?