[00:00] <bprompt_> he may try checking /etc/X11 for any xorg.conf files.... in "recovery mode", and remove it, or just "mv" it to somewhere in case it may need to put it back, then boot back up
[00:01] <VolUTFan> what would he be looking for specifically
[00:01] <VolUTFan> and how to tell if its in recovery mode
[00:05] <VolUTFan> there is a file called xorg.conf.failsafe, but its the only xorg.conf file i see in the /etc/X11/ directory
[00:06] <VolUTFan> would that indicate recovery mode?
[00:08] <bprompt> VolUTFan:    once in the root shell, the system gets mounted as read-only, so you have to set ti to RW  with -> mount -o remount,rw /   <-- and then you do whatever else
[00:08] <bprompt> anyhow.. he could that I gather from a liveUSB session as well
[00:09] <VolUTFan> according to what I am reading, there is no longer a xorg.conf file in the /etc/x11 dir anymore
[00:09] <VolUTFan> i know I don't have one either
[00:10] <bprompt> VolUTFan:     right.. but you said his was an update... and depending on whatever he may have had installed, one may have been created by a package installation
[00:10] <bprompt> s/update/upgrade/
[00:11] <VolUTFan> so what were you referring to by the commands above?
[00:11] <bprompt> well....  have him check for an xorg.conf   and remove if there, and reboot
[00:12] <VolUTFan> even the xorg.conf.failsafe file?
[00:12] <VolUTFan> in etc/x11
[00:12] <bprompt> sure
[00:12] <VolUTFan> ok
[00:13] <bprompt> just an "mv", don't have to rm it, so if anything, can always put it back
[00:20] <VolUTFan> understood bprompt.  good idea!
[00:20] <VolUTFan> that was done just now
[00:57] <VolUTFan> what is the default lightdm or sddm in 14.10 kubuntu with plasma4
[00:57] <qdata> lightdm
[01:00] <VolUTFan> if a new user is created and they login and there is nothing except white, no kicker panel, no icons, no nothing, could that indicate a problem with lightdm
[01:01] <qdata> I think so, I'm no expert but I gave seen that if I enter a wrong password everything stops with no way to proceed, so I know of at least that is wrong w/lightdm
[01:17] <VolUTFan> i have a 13.10 version in vbox.  what is the command from terminal to bring me upto 14.10
[01:21] <VolUTFan> i don't want 15.x, just doing some testing
[01:25] <VolUTFan> nm found it.  problem was the apt update
[01:25] <VolUTFan> im doing the dist-upgrade now
[10:11] <zeki> hi i've installed plasma 5 on kubuntu 14.10, there are two issues that i cant find a solution on int. the wallpaper selection dialog is not working properly, images are not visible and navigation through is not wotking
[10:13] <zeki> plus desktop view is not working too, nothing different than palsma desktop + no icons over there
[10:13] <zeki> anyone experiencing the same issue?
[10:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:06] <VolUTFan> Morning ya'll
[13:06] <lordievader> o/
[13:06] <VolUTFan> hey lordie
[13:19] <VolUTFan> I started an upgrade on my 13.04 vbox kub last night doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.  This morning it was at 13.10.  I thought it would bring me upto 14.04.  What did I do wrong lol
[13:19] <VolUTFan> i was actually expecting to see 14.10, yet alas...  13.10
[13:20] <VolUTFan> oh oh oh i know what I did wrong...  "It was me that tried to do the upgrade"  lol
[13:20] <VolUTFan> no seriously, anyone know what happened
[13:21] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Nothing went wrong, 13.04 cannot upgrade directly to 14.04.
[13:21] <VolUTFan> ahh... and there it is!!  LOL
[13:22] <VolUTFan> so, there is an upgrade path to get to 14.10
[13:22] <VolUTFan> got it...  good information
[13:22] <VolUTFan> thanks lordie
[13:23] <VolUTFan> lordie, is there a log for the root crontab?  I am curious if some jobs run that I moved over last night
[13:24] <VolUTFan> where would I look
[13:25] <lordievader> VolUTFan: It can email you... so it probably ends up in the local root mail.
[13:29] <VolUTFan> according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log you use "grep CRON /var/log/syslog" but the only entry I see is Mar  1 08:17:02 Chewbacca CRON[14471]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) which only tells me  nothing really
[13:29] <VolUTFan> still looking
[13:29] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Login as root and run 'mail'.
[13:32] <VolUTFan> I figured it out.  it will be in /etc/cron.hourly most likely, but I moved the times to 1700 est
[13:33] <VolUTFan> nothing is going to be in there yet
[13:33] <VolUTFan> I forgot about moving the time.  I checked crontab -l
[13:34] <lordievader> VolUTFan: "nothing is going to be in there yet" what do you mean with that?
[13:34] <VolUTFan> going to check mail now lol
[13:34] <VolUTFan> good point lordie
[13:35] <VolUTFan> brb
[14:22] <VolUTFan> since avcov is no longer in 14.10, what replaced it?
[14:22] <VolUTFan> **avconv I mean
[14:22] <lordievader> ffmpeg is back, or so I've heared.
[14:23] <VolUTFan> interesting.  its not in the default install.  just tried the command.  Let me see if it will install
[14:24] <BluesKaj> yes ffmpeg is back on 15.04
[14:25] <BluesKaj> in the repos
[14:25] <VolUTFan> oh, im at 14.10
[14:26] <VolUTFan> so, in 14.10, there is neither avconv or ffmpeg.  Is avconv in 15.04?
[14:27] <VolUTFan> is 15.04 in stable release?
[14:27] <lordievader> VolUTFan: Not yet.
[14:27] <VolUTFan> ok, I will hold on that for now
[14:28] <VolUTFan> I may put it on my vbox to test
[14:38] <proteusguy> Just did a apt-get update on my kubuntu trusty. Now my Network Manager is broken (although my existing network settings still work) and my Audio manager things I have no audio device (which I haven't been able to confirm as I have no speakers hooked up at the moment). This is for 14.04 Kubuntu on a Dell XPS-16 laptop. Been running Kubuntu on it for almost 3 years steadily now.
[14:39] <proteusguy> Also did an apt-get autoremove as well... not sure which one broke it
[14:43] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, try a dist-upgrade
[14:47] <roshan> hi
[14:48] <roshan> Im new to kubuntu and install netbeans on /home and need to create a dektop shortcut
[14:54] <BluesKaj> roshan, drag it to the desktop afaik
[14:57] <BluesKaj> roshan, yes choose the icon option
[14:58] <BluesKaj> no need to pm , we can talk about it in here , we can all help that way roshan
[14:59] <roshan> i installed it from downloading and running the netbeans.sh file
[15:00] <roshan> and draged and droped netbeans from the bin folder
[15:00] <roshan> to desktop but no icon for it
[15:01] <BluesKaj> dunno anything about netbeans, does it have a launcher or does it use a browser etc/
[15:03] <roshan> its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kumuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:03] <roshan> its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kubuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:03] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, dist-upgrade? You mean upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, dist-upgrade just upgrades your existing packages , it's not a release upgrade
[15:05] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, how does one do a dist-upgrade then? :-) Thanx.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> doesn't upgrade to 14.0
[15:05] <BluesKaj> 14.10
[15:05] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[15:06] <BluesKaj> oops dist-upgrade
[15:07]  * BluesKaj needs a break ..eyes need a rest
[15:09] <roshan> BluesKaj, its jst a launcher , what i want to no is in kubuntu when u add shortcut to desktop the icon image does not come
[15:12] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, dist-upgrade found nothing to do. I'm all upgraded into this broken mess. :(
[15:14] <VolUTFan> lordie, may I please post a link for informational value?  Its a youtube video of minix, which if very interesting so far on the topic of creating a new operating system.  It may be beneficial for review.  It is about an hour long.  Was sent to me yesterday and I am watching it now
[15:14] <VolUTFan> not sure if anyone knows about minix or not
[15:15] <VolUTFan> i just thought that some folks may be interested in the information contained in the video
[15:15] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, minix is offtopic for this chat
[15:16] <VolUTFan> I get that part, but information is information
[15:16] <lordievader> VolUTFan: No, as BluesKaj Minix is not Kubuntu, post it in #kubuntu-offtopic or something.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, that's what google is for
[15:18] <VolUTFan> Blue, thanks..  I will make sure to ask their CEO
[15:18] <VolUTFan> I will post that link in the offtopic channel if anyone wants to look
[15:18] <VolUTFan> Humor guys...  HUMOR..  It makes work easier!
[15:18] <VolUTFan> :)
[15:19] <VolUTFan> I am one of those guys that just has to smile and laugh.
[15:20] <roshan> BluesKaj ok i found out thanks just right clicked on the file on desktop and clicked the icon then u can upload any icon
[15:20] <VolUTFan> are you guys in europe?  I am in the USA
[15:20] <hypokrit_> how to check in console if my hd is full
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Canada here
[15:21] <VolUTFan> Dang Blues..  I bet your burried in snow
[15:21] <VolUTFan> I am down in TN
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hypokrit_, sudo fdisk -l
[15:22] <VolUTFan> we got about 20 inches of snow
[15:22] <hypokrit_> thanx
[15:22] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:22] <VolUTFan> Blues, I just posted the link a few minutes ago, did you see it?
[15:22] <VolUTFan> it was in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[15:26] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, any more ideas? No idea how to deal with Kubuntu losing track of it's network & sound configuration controls.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, hda-intel audio ? and does your internet connection still work , if so just rightclick on the desktop add widget and type in network management and drag the icon into the panel
[15:33] <VolUTFan> do any of you guys know what on earth would cause a completely white screen when you log into Kubuntu 14.10 as a new user
[15:33] <VolUTFan> it was happening to a user yesterday I was trying to help out
[15:34] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, it says "NetworkManager 0.9.8 required found ."
[15:35] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, and yes, hda-intel audio I believe. Network still works, just the network manager shows everything missing/off. Can't confirm audio works as have no speakers here.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> then run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , thiws bug is very common after upgrades, there will be no output from the command if the driver loads properly , and a reboot is usually required
[15:36] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, ^
[15:36] <VolUTFan> this is theory proteus, but during my windows systems administrator position, I ran across times where that would happen on a server box.  I had to remove the driver for the network card and readd it, because it freaked out.  Once I did that, it worked fine again.  So to apply that in theory, could it be possible that your network card driver in Kubuntu could be problematic and remove and readd it?
[15:36] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, when I hover over the widget in the add widget selection it claims to be <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:37] <proteusguy> VolUTFan, no the network is working find. Command line controls are good. It's just the networkmanager thinks there's no network.
[15:38] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, no output on the modprobe. And I've rebooted several times already.
[15:38] <VolUTFan> oh i see what your talking about.  It is the wrapper utility that isn't finding the network.  Got it.  Its blind to the fact there is a connection
[15:38] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[15:38] <VolUTFan> good idea Blues
[15:38] <VolUTFan> omg, my vbox for my kub test system is SLOWWWWW.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> yes, but that loads the driver properly proteusguy no mater how many reboots were doine before
[15:39] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, looks promising... time to reboot. brb
[15:41] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, vbox is ok if a little clunky , gotta give it more memory and diskpace than the recommendations
[15:42] <VolUTFan> As so I noticed LOL
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I liked kvm-qemu a lot for running W7 as a guest , but the LAN networking on windows was non existent
[15:45] <BluesKaj> no homegroup etc
[15:47] <VolUTFan> is there still a vmware-player package for Kub?
[15:47] <VolUTFan> I couldn't find vmware-server package for Kub when I was looking for it a couple of weeks back
[15:48] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, weird, apt-get said it was installing v <IP_ADDRESS> of network-manager but when I try to install the widget it still says it's <IP_ADDRESS>. How do I make this thing go away?!?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> proteusguy, as a temporary measure, in krunner/run command, kdesudo dolphin /usr/bin , find and click nm-applet
[15:59] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, there is a vmware-manager pkg in the repos, but I imagine it's for their proprietary/paid linux version of the pkg
[16:00] <VolUTFan> at one time, a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.  LOL, I found the vmware-server package, but they must have went to paid
[16:00] <BluesKaj> there was afree vmware player version iirc
[16:06] <VolUTFan> iirc is the name of the package?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> no, iirc is short for "if I remember correctly"
[16:09] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, Idon't see vmware player anywhere nowadays
[16:10] <VolUTFan> what is kvm-qemu?  Is it like vbox or vmware-player?
[16:10] <VolUTFan> never used it before
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !qemu
[16:12] <BluesKaj> !kvm
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !qemu-kvm
[16:14] <proteusguy> How do I remove widgets from the panel? I've got a few dead ones I need to clear off.
[16:15] <proteusguy> I see add-widget but nothing about remove-widget.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> pro click on the cashew on right then move your cursor over the widget and popup with an X will show , click the X
[16:15] <BluesKaj> proteusguy,^
[16:16] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, it's actually qemu-kvm in the package manager
[16:19] <proteusguy> BluesKaj, many thanx.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> np
[16:33] <VolUTFan> Blues, I installed the qemu-kvm app, how do I launch it
[16:39] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, in the kmenu>setrtings>virtualizer
[16:39] <BluesKaj> err apps>settings
[16:40] <VolUTFan> interesting...  I don't see it
[16:40] <BluesKaj> oops I'm all mucked up apps system>virt
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ikeep most  favs in favs, so forget
[16:41] <VolUTFan> i still don't see it in apps/system/virt
[16:41] <VolUTFan> interesting
[16:41] <VolUTFan> but I do know its installed.  Used package manager
[16:42] <BluesKaj> libvirt or some such, check that it's installed
[16:42] <VolUTFan> maybe it would require a log off and back on?
[16:42] <VolUTFan> what is the command from the terminal to launch it?
[16:43] <VolUTFan> maybe, I can just launch it that way for now?  I just wanted to see what it looks like
[16:44] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, hang on , I'm reinstalling it , then I'll find it
[16:44] <VolUTFan> thanks Blues.
[16:45] <VolUTFan> its prob something like kvm& or qemu&
[16:47] <BluesKaj> think you're right , it's not there for me either ..rebooting
[16:48] <VolUTFan> okie dokie
[16:51] <alket> is there any PPA for kdevelop
[16:54] <VolUTFan> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kdevelop-4.6  what about this alket
[16:56] <alket> VolUTFan: thanks, but I need 4.7.1
[16:56] <VolUTFan> okie dokie let me look
[16:57] <VolUTFan> what about this?  https://launchpad.net/~rjvbertin/+archive/ubuntu/kdevelop
[16:57] <VolUTFan> there is a dropdown for the repos you can pick your version.  its 4.7, but I would imagine that the install would include, hotfix 1
[16:57] <alket> thanks VolUTFan
[16:58] <VolUTFan> no problem alket
[16:58] <alket> another question
[16:58] <alket> Why when opening directory of current download from Firefox it opens Gwenview instead of Dolphin
[17:00] <VolUTFan> sounds like the file association for whatever you downloaded is associated with gwenview
[17:01] <VolUTFan> what file extension are you trying to open
[17:01] <VolUTFan> hey Blues.. wb
[17:01] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, I found the page i used for 64 bit architecture for 10.04 or later, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation , using this command sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm libvirt-bin ubuntu-vm-builder bridge-utils
[17:01] <VolUTFan> did the qemu ever show up
[17:02] <VolUTFan> yes, I found that same page.
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ran the command and it will install what's not aready there
[17:03] <VolUTFan> did that as well
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:05] <VolUTFan> did the qemu-kvm app ever show up in your app menu
[17:08] <alket> VolUTFan: well I ned everything to open to dolphin , since i do Open Directory
[17:13] <VolUTFan> alket, goto system settings/File Associations.  You can review that there
[17:30] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, ok install virt-manager, odd that one has to scroll to the bottom of the page for the key app :/
[17:30] <VolUTFan> doing that now
[17:32] <BluesKaj> it's in kmenu>apps>system>virtual machine manager , no need to logout
[17:33] <VolUTFan> still installing.  I will check it in a minute.  Ive got my cpu taxed out.  upgrading 1 VM to 14.10 and installing Minix R3 on the other
[17:35] <VolUTFan> i found it...  :)  awesome.  now to add my account to the libvirtd group
[17:36] <BluesKaj> but I have a / and /home partitions and unfortunately / is the default for qemu-kvm guest OS installation and it's only 16G so it's not practical for me ...windows needs more than 10G for proper operation
[17:37] <BluesKaj> tried installing to ./home , but it kept erroring
[17:38] <BluesKaj> err /home
[18:10] <rushilpaul> I'm having a problem with apt-get utility
[18:16] <VolUTFan> whats the problem rush
[18:16] <BluesKaj> apt-get is a package manager, and what's the issue, rushilpaul?
[18:22] <roshan_> has anyone installed android studio on kubuntu
[18:23] <roshan_> getting an error Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool.
[18:50] <roshan_> Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool
[18:50] <roshan_> android studio error
[18:50] <roshan_> has  any one installed the latest version of android studio
[18:51] <BluesKaj> roshan_, ubuntu-touch ?
[18:54] <Stern> Thunderbird is showing the wrong dateformat (mm/dd/yy) in Kubuntu 14.04; not according to the locale setting which is dd/mm/yy. Anyone got a solution?
[19:17] <VolUTFan> Stern, try reading this
[19:17] <VolUTFan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1670601
[19:18] <VolUTFan> I don't use thunderbird personally
[19:41] <Stern> VolUTFan: Thanks, followed the instructions but they didn't help for me. I ended up installing an add-on which solves the problem.
[20:20] <VolUTFan> anyone know how I can make an offline copy of a wiki?
[20:20] <VolUTFan> i may be asking too much on that one lol
[20:25] <sympto> VolUTFan: httrack or wallabag
[20:26] <VolUTFan> thanks sympto.. will check that out
[20:26] <sympto> any1 can tell me why i cant see anything on apple2 screensaver? or at least where to configure it? http://i.imgur.com/nXOsJxA.png
[20:46] <hyper_ch> hmmm, 15.04 beta still has issues with custom partioning like created raid1 with 1 device and manual set encrypted drives
[21:23] <VolUTFan> anyone know how to send a running process to a specific cpu core, like you can in windows using affinity
[21:24] <VolUTFan> im tarring a directory with several GB of data and its eating too much cpu time across my multiple processors.  Its not a priority task, so it wouldn't bother me to isolate it to 1 core, so i can have more cpu for more important tasks
[21:29] <VolUTFan> i found something on the topic
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: 'renice' for CPU
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: and 'man 0-k affinity'
[21:31] <Walex> VolUTFan: and 'man -k affinity'
[21:32] <VolUTFan> thanks walex
[21:33] <Walex> VolUTFan: note that "eating too much cpu time across my multiple processors" is a priority issue not an affinity one.
[21:33] <VolUTFan> how would you suggest I handle that issue ?
[21:33] <Walex> VolUTFan: that's why I suggested 'renice'. Affinity is to minimize cache misses and context swaps across CPUs.
[21:33] <VolUTFan> ive heard of renice, thats about all I know about it
[21:34] <VolUTFan> I will check it out
[21:34] <Walex> or in rare cases affinity is useful when CPUs have slightly different configurations
[21:34] <VolUTFan> what I have is a tri-core
[21:58] <Walex> VolUTFan: same here BTW
[21:59] <Walex> VolUTFan: probably you just use 'renice' and the 'tar' (or rather compression) will go on in the background
[22:02] <VolUTFan> can you give me an example of how you would use renice?
[22:02] <VolUTFan> im reading the man btw, but an example would still be cool
[22:02] <VolUTFan> I guess Blues called it a day.  He must have logged off
[22:04] <VolUTFan> priority range -20 to 19..  wow, um what should I pick?
[22:15] <Walex> VolUTFan: just 'renice $PID'
[22:15] <Walex> VolUTFan: most likely it is not 'tar' that is consuming CPU, it is the compression process if you are compressing.
[22:16] <Walex> VolUTFan: you can 'renice' with 'top', command "r"
[22:16] <VolUTFan> would the compression process be literally listed as "compression"
[22:17] <VolUTFan> so $top, compression "r"
[22:17] <VolUTFan> or is the r the priority
[22:17] <Walex> VolUTFan: no, probably 'gzip' or 'bzip2'
[22:17] <Walex> VolUTFan: just run the command 'top' and it will be clear
[22:19] <VolUTFan> ill take a look
[22:19] <Walex> VolUTFan: but this is Kubuntu, you can do it with KDE: just press Ctrl+ESC and then right click on the process with high CPU and set it low priority
[22:19] <VolUTFan> the slider bar?
[22:19] <Walex> with high CPU%
[22:19] <Walex> VolUTFan: yes.
[22:20] <VolUTFan> i seen that earlier.  that is to renice the process?
[22:20] <Walex> VolUTFan: yes, the same
[22:20] <VolUTFan> oh ok.  I know that then
[22:20] <VolUTFan> thanks
[22:23] <VolUTFan> any idea how I can switch from gui to terminal in kubuntu running inside of vbox?  Usually its ctrl-alt F1
[22:33] <sympto> does at least anybody mess around harder with kscreensaver?
[23:01] <Blueleaf> i have an issue swapping the caps lock and esc keys. I can do it in the GUI but when i ctrl-alt-f1 to a login terminal it is not in effect. i have tried putting a command in my .profile but either that doesnt work or i have the wrong command. any ideas? o
[23:55] <VolUTFan> Im telling ya what..  My connection to my local repos is kick@$$ now that I have used apt-mirror.  I knew it would be fast, but goodness, I didn't expect this kinda speed.
[23:55] <VolUTFan> im even doing an upgrade to my other box, just simply updated my sources.list
[23:57] <VolUTFan> fetched 858 MB in 2min 23s


[02:41] <George_> Hi. I'm trying to get Ubuntu to boot on my omap zoom2 but the leds are just green for a second and seems to boot loop. I don't have the debug board. Can anyone help me?
[08:34] <tpw_rules> hey so i have ubuntu 16.04.4 for arm running on my odroid xu4. i did an apt update && upgrade and now update-initramfs is hung. Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.11) ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.14.5-92 is what it has been doing all night. this morning i killed dpkg and ran dpkg --configure -a to restart it and it doesn't seem to be doing much better
[09:55] <tpw_rules> update: it turned out to be a screwed up mount point somehow? a reboot fixed it


[00:00] <tallmtt>  I am able to have mythtv flag commercials without producing an errror in the job queue - how do I skip commercials though?
[00:07] <majoridiot> tallmtt: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Keybindings
[00:09] <majoridiot> there is also a setting to auto-skip in frontend setup
[00:16] <majoridiot> (yer welcome)
[00:24] <Seeker`> how well does frontend backend communication work over wireless?
[00:26] <majoridiot> Seeker` depends.  in my experience, not very well.
[00:28] <Seeker`> hmm
[00:28] <majoridiot> depends on the construction materials, line of sight, etc.  if you have a good, *stong* signal, you habe a chance
[00:28] <majoridiot> ^have
[00:28] <Seeker`> Well, I'm likely to move into a flat at some point in the near future
[00:29] <majoridiot> wooden studs and drywall better than brick, in my experience
[00:30] <majoridiot> cat5 is pretty easy to run and to hide.  that's what i wound up doing here.
[00:30] <Seeker`> I cant imagine that anywere i live will be particularly large / thick walls
[00:52] <nwidger> hi what should i do if mythbuntu installed fine but there's no mythconverg mysql database?
[00:52] <nwidger> does mythtv have a way to initialize all the mysql stuff in case things go wrong?
[01:27] <alexvd> laga: I cant create a lircd with irrecord.  Can you help?
[01:41] <tallmtt> majoridiot: thanks for the info - I had some emergency erronds to make
[01:50] <HunterSThompson> I think I just broke my buntu
[02:00] <alexvd> tgm4883_laptop: can you help with lirc issue?
[02:05] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe
[02:34] <HunterSThompson> let us, for a moment assume that mythbuntu is installed on a harddrive with a standard ext3 filesystem and a second filesystem mounted in /var/lib/mythtv on which all media is held...
[02:34] <HunterSThompson> if one were to reinstall mythbuntu to the ext3 filesystem, the media (movies, etc...) should still be on the other partition and fully mountable correct?
[04:10] <ddgoose> HunterSThompson yes correct
[04:57] <AlsMe> I've got a STB .. however, what digital tuner card can I get for my PC
[04:58] <AlsMe> is anyone here?
[06:00] <robotgeek> hi, i have a pchdtv hd-5500 card. I have tried to follow the instructions here: http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1529 to try and get my remote to work. i have been unsuccessful so far. anybody else here solve this issue?
[06:51] <tgm4883_laptop> AlsMe, you don't go from a STB to a digital tuner card
[10:40] <Balachmar> Hi, i have a few problems with my mythbuntu box
[10:40] <Balachmar> The first one, is that I can't seem to use mythwelcome to automatically shutdown when it is idle
[10:41] <Balachmar> In the terminal I do get a message saying that it got a shutdown_now event, but nothing happens and the counter starts again.
[10:41] <Balachmar> I need this to work, because I want my box to automatically boot for a recording and then shutdown afterwards.
[10:42] <laga> you pcan turn up verbosity
[10:42] <laga> --verbose all ;)
[10:42] <Balachmar> This leads me to my next problem and that is that mythbuntu changes my biosclock to the current time -2. Which would make it boot up at the wrong time.
[10:43] <Balachmar> @laga: I know that, and I did that. It didn't help me much further. But I will try again.
[10:43] <laga> if linux is the only system on your box then setting the BIOS clock to UTC is actually a good idea.
[10:43] <laga> Balachmar: maybe you can pastebin the output.
[10:44] <laga> i'm not sure if having the CMOS clock set to UTC will interfere with wakeup. i think it works for me.
[10:45] <Balachmar> well, then mythtv needs to know that the biosclock is utc, so that it will put the right time in the bios. Maybe it does... I don't know yet because I have only tried the command manually, since mythwelcome doesn't work :)
[10:45] <Balachmar> I'll try the mythwelcome thing right now
[10:45] <laga> i probably use a script to modify the time.
[10:45] <laga> let me WoL my backend
[10:46] <Balachmar> Well, since it uses a time variable, it should be possible to just substract 2 hours, but then it would fail if it gets wintertime
[10:47] <laga> i believe you can modify the time format.. but i'm not sure if mythwelcome uses that as well. i believe it used to be hard coded.
[10:47] <laga> i set this up 1.5 years ago, so my memory is a bit hazy.
[10:49] <laga> http://www.pastebin.ca/1021741 - here's the script. you can use line 6 if your cmos has trouble seeing the correct year or something
[10:49] <laga> i'll check my mythbackend settings
[10:49] <laga> interesting. wakeup time is
[10:49] <laga> yyyy-MM-ddThh:mm
[10:49] <laga> for me.
[10:50] <laga> i use mythshutdown, so i need to check mythwelcome settings. interesting.
[10:50] <laga> Invalid argument: --geometry
[10:50] <laga> grr
[10:51] <Balachmar> Well I need to use nvram-wakeup
[10:51] <laga> oh.
[10:51] <laga> sorry, i didn't know that.
[10:51] <laga> i used to use nvram-wakeup, but that box has been retired
[10:51] <Balachmar> my box doesn't work with acpi...
[10:51] <laga> surely the mythwelcome manual should work out of the box?
[10:53] <Balachmar> well, last time I used this howto: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Shutdown_Wakeup
[10:53] <Balachmar> But now it is a bit shady, because it says some things are different in newer versions, but it doesn't explain what should be done
[10:54] <laga> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythwelcome - i think i used this
[10:54] <Balachmar> it refers to that page right
[10:55] <Balachmar> but will it interfere, that I also have set a few options the old way?
[10:55] <laga> what old way? :)
[10:55] <Balachmar> using mythtvsetup
[10:56] <laga> i'd just follow the howto from start to finish.#
[10:56] <laga> if your CMOS time troubles you, you can still fix that afterwards
[10:56] <Balachmar> yeah I know
[10:57] <Balachmar> that is actually the least of my problems :)
[10:57] <Balachmar> By the way do you know how to clear the program information data, so that I can refill it?
[10:57] <laga> Balachmar: you can probably truncate the program data
[10:57] <Balachmar> It actually contains to much data atm, also for channels that we cannot watch
[10:58] <laga> hum, then you probably need to delete those channels
[10:58] <dbmister> im just wondering if anyone could test my patch? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/231577
[10:58] <laga> dbmister: foxbuntu is our mythbuntu-lirc-generator monkey, i'm sure he'll take a look :)
[11:00] <dbmister> laga: thanks!, would be great if people tested it? - as i only have Asus Mycinema and Hauppuage PVR 250 remote at hand
[11:00] <dbmister> i thought i was going mad.. when pressing enter
[11:01] <laga> haha :)
[11:01] <dbmister> :P
[11:15] <Balachmar> @laga: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m4119b092
[11:16] <Balachmar> it says the backend is active... but why does mythwelcome first thinks it is inactive?
[11:16] <Balachmar> and it isn't active at all
[11:17] <laga> um.. okay, that log is a bit had to read :) so you're using mythshutdown? and it doesn't shut down?
[11:19] <Balachmar> no, the shutdown command is sudo shutdown -h now
[11:20] <laga> in mythwelcome?
[11:20] <laga> i think mythwelcome uses mythshutdown
[11:20] <laga> as per the manual.
[11:49] <peoples> hey guys
[11:49] <peoples> i've some suspend trouble with my mythbuntu 8.04
[11:50] <peoples> mythbackend doesn't wort after resume .. so i've created a hook for pm-suspend that restarts the mythbackend on resume
[11:51] <peoples> works fine .. but only 1-3 times .. then the pc wakesup but does nothing ... no ssh no keyboard no screen nothing -> dead
[11:52] <peoples> resume without mythbackend hook works all time ..
[11:52] <peoples> some ideas ?
[13:11] <michael_> Any one solved the NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times issue?
[13:27] <jduggan> are you getting that during livetv?
[13:27] <jduggan> or regular recordings?
[13:29] <pteague> well, my old compaq armada e500 (500mhz intel, 128mb ram, ati rage mobility) worked pretty good yesterday as a frontend... watched all of the 1st indiana jones movie & got through most of the 2nd movie until suddenly mythtv exited... i'm guessing it got to hot
[13:36] <michael_> i'm getting it when pressing watch tv
[13:36] <michael_> it managed to work once since rebuilding on 8.04
[13:36] <michael_> latest nvidia driver
[13:37] <michael_> then my gf changed the channel and it broke...
[13:37] <michael_> black screen, sitting in a loop displaying that in the log
[13:37] <michael_> i.e. /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[13:38] <michael_> recordings play sometimes, sometimes not
[13:38] <michael_> same with livetv
[13:38] <michael_> more often not than play
[14:16] <michael_> just rebooted the mythbox and its working... for how long... :(
[14:20]  * Penfold hrms. My mythfilldatabase isn't.
[14:54] <mxpower> i have a newbish question, how do i determine what port my sql server is running on?
[15:10] <pteague> mxpower> i think netstat will show you a list of all the ports being used on your local box...
[15:12] <Seeker`> more /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[15:12] <Seeker`> there will be a "port=number" line
[15:37] <ddgoose> netstat -na | grep 3306
[15:42] <mxpower> hmm, my front end works locally, but, cant connect remotely and mysql is enabled, its there a way to check the security on the database?
[15:48] <ddgoose> open terminal on frontend and try -> mysql --host=<your host ip> -u mythtv -p mythtv
[15:49] <ddgoose> enter the correct password
[15:50] <ddgoose> and if you get something like --> ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'<frontendIP>' to database 'mythtv'
[15:51] <ddgoose> you need to fix grants
[15:53] <leimer> hi guys
[15:54] <leimer> can anyone help out ?
[15:54] <leimer> need a litle help here ....
[15:55] <ddgoose> you have to ask the question before we can tell you if we can help :P
[15:56] <leimer> lol
[15:56] <leimer> I was checking if there was someone first loooool
[15:56] <leimer> ok
[15:58] <leimer> it's like that :       I have hardy installed (server version with desktop)   .    Then I installed mythbuntu packages.  It's working, but there is a problem : the image in tv mode apears repeated  in the upper midle and downer midle of the screen
[15:59] <leimer> it's like having two TV's one up and one down
[15:59] <laga> i guess you're using ATI's proprietary driver?
[15:59] <leimer> ddgoose: get it
[16:00] <leimer> I am in Portugal ... does it have anything to see with the TV mode here?    PAL / SECAM ?
[16:04] <leimer> not at all ....     I'm using a      Brooktree  bt878   chip
[16:05] <ddgoose> tv-out from pvr card?
[16:12] <leimer> ddgoose:       what you mean with pvr card ?
[16:13] <leimer> it's a tv card with radio as well
[16:13] <ddgoose> what tuner card are you using and how do you output to tv.
[16:14] <leimer> in the back it has an entrance like "antena"  for both video and radio, a jack out witch I use to connect to the sound board directly
[16:14] <leimer> lol    I'm a litle newbie still :s    but i'll try to tell you what i know
[16:15] <ddgoose> what brand is your tuner card?
[16:15] <Balachmar> PVR stands for Personal Video Recorder. A pvr card refers to a card with which you can record video
[16:15] <leimer> Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[16:15] <leimer> it's this ?
[16:17] <leimer> ahhh one more thing .... with      "TV time television viewer"      it's ok
[16:17] <Balachmar> that seems like a video capture card yes
[16:17] <leimer> but when I start mythtv
[16:17] <leimer> the video splits
[16:18] <leimer> or better .... clones it self in the screen
[16:18] <leimer> like I said before  it's like having one tv under the other
[16:18] <laga> i guess you're using ATI's proprietary driver?
[16:18] <leimer> no
[16:18] <laga> ah
[16:19] <leimer> i'm not using any proprietary driver
[16:20] <leimer> I installed video driver by hand, but it's working great with Xorg
[16:20] <ddgoose> help me laga I'm drowning
[16:20] <ddgoose> :P
[16:20] <laga> what video driver did you install by hand?
[16:21] <AlsM1> heyy...Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800
[16:21] <AlsM1> does anyone have the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 1800
[16:21] <AlsM1> if so.. is the quality good? (compared to other cards)
[16:22] <leimer> VIA  CHROME
[16:22] <leimer> from VIA linux drivers
[16:22] <Balachmar> @AlsM1: I am using a PVR150 from Hauppauge and it works great
[16:23] <laga> leimer: does it work if you start mythfrontend like this "NO_XV=1 mythfrontend"
[16:23] <AlsM1> where's the hardware wiki for mythtv?
[16:24] <ddgoose> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Hardware
[16:24] <leimer> sorry laga but as I said, i'm a little newbie :(
[16:25] <leimer> didn't catch that one :s
[16:25] <leimer> laga: what you mean with that ?
[16:25] <ddgoose> leimer: you know how to open a command line terminal?
[16:25] <leimer> ahhh ok
[16:26] <AlsM1> Balachmar, that's for only analog signal tho right?
[16:26] <leimer> that is a option to run with mythtv in command line
[16:26] <leimer> do i have to run it with sudo ?
[16:26] <Balachmar> @AlsM1: yes that is right, but digital signal is easier, that is just a dump of the datastream
[16:26]  * Penfold hrms. running latest mythbuntu from CD - it looks like my initial config off CD ran as user ubuntu, my backend is running as mythtv, but my frontend's running as my user (mike), and it seems all my channel config stuff's run as mike as well :)
[16:26] <Penfold> that wouyld explain why mythfilldatabase isn't working :)
[16:27] <laga> Penfold: make sure to file a bug report :)
[16:27] <laga> http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[16:27] <ddgoose> leimer: no
[16:27] <Balachmar> @Penfold, could that also explain why mythwelcome isn't able to shutdown?
[16:30] <Balachmar> @laga: I really am having a lot of trouble getting my mythbuntu 8.04 running. also my wireless connection is rubbish with 8.04... I should never have upgraded my system...
[16:30] <Balachmar> But I WILL PREVAIL
[16:30] <laga> hah
[16:30] <Balachmar> But my grilfriend is laughing at me... :S
[16:31] <Penfold> I see the GAF is weak in this one ;)
[16:31] <laga> Penfold: in Balachmar or in his mythtv box?
[16:31] <Penfold> laga: the latter, methinks,
[16:32] <Penfold> oh - reminds me - using PVR150/PAL/Composite - my TV picture is a good 10% bigger than teh screen top-to-bottom - how to fix?
[16:35] <Balachmar> What is the GAF?
[16:36] <Balachmar> Girlfriend Acceptance Factor
[16:36] <Balachmar> nevermind..
[16:38] <ddgoose> wth! my ltsp-update-image is hung at 71%
[16:39] <laga> patience
[16:40] <leimer> ddgoose:  sorrry again ... I just have entered the config files of mythbuntu, then entered the mysql database and have not found anything like that string :S
[16:41] <ddgoose> futex(0x82b6b84, 0x80 /* FUTEX_??? */, 911
[16:41] <ddgoose> she's dead Jim!
[16:42] <AlsM1> I need to get a "Digital" signal from a STB to my Myth-tv box .. is a STB with firewire the only option?
[16:42] <ddgoose> leimer: all you needed to do was open a terminal, and in it type ->NO_XV=1 mythfrontend
[16:44] <leimer> ups :s    sorry :s      lol    i'll do that
[16:46] <ddgoose> makesquashfs - Take 2
[16:47] <ddgoose> and Action!
[16:59] <ddgoose> penfold: i guess http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I.27m_using_the_TV-Out_on_the_PVR_350_and_X_is_larger_than_the_screen._Parts_of_the_desktop_and_Myth_interface_are_cut_off_around_the_edges
[16:59] <ddgoose> Thats one long url there
[17:00] <ddgoose> wth! my ltsp-update-image is hung at 71% ... Again
[17:01] <laga> file system full?
[17:02] <laga> maybe there's a missing mount somewhere?
[17:02] <ddgoose> strace shows it just sitting there with same futex call
[17:02] <ddgoose> lemme chack diskspace
[17:02] <ddgoose> check even
[17:02] <ddgoose> 26g avail
[17:02] <ddgoose> not fs
[17:04] <alexvd> hi trying to get lirc working with irman.  Can anyone help?
[17:05] <alexvd> problem i have is i cannot create a lircd file for my tivo series2 remote.
[17:05] <alexvd> irrecord wont work
[17:05] <Penfold> ddgoose: doh - thanks.
[17:11] <ddgoose> well the only thing I did to my i386 directory was add a directory in usr/share/
[17:11] <ddgoose> pulled it to see if its the problem
[17:20] <ddgoose-boxen> well that was it
[17:20] <ddgoose-boxen> now to figure out the why
[17:26] <ddgoose> hmm I don't see anything unusual in there wtf
[17:27] <laga> what did you add
[17:27] <ddgoose-boxen> xbmc nightly build
[17:28] <laga> hum, i've never tried that
[17:28] <ddgoose-boxen> running mksquashfs on it by itself
[17:28] <ddgoose-boxen> see what happens
[17:28] <laga> i wonder if it hits a broken something on your hard disk or file system
[17:29] <ddgoose-boxen> cp'd it to my home dir and ran mksq.. on it, locked on futex again
[17:29] <ddgoose-boxen> something in there aborken
[17:30] <ddgoose-boxen> I don't see a verbose on mksq.. to see what file is hanging it
[17:31] <laga> -info                   print files written to filesystem
[17:32] <ddgoose-boxen> gah I am blind lol
[17:38] <alexvd> laga: could you help troubleshoot a lirc issue?
[17:39] <laga> no
[17:39] <laga> :)
[17:39] <laga> doing homework right now
[17:39] <alexvd> laga: for real?  Ok homework is more important.  I will try to keep at it
[18:11] <ddgoose-boxen> was hanging on an directory inode
[18:11] <laga> odd
[18:12] <laga> how did you solve that?
[18:12] <ddgoose-boxen> researching now
[18:13] <ddgoose-boxen> ls -iR
[18:14] <ddgoose-boxen> list diectories with inode
[18:14] <ddgoose-boxen> directories even
[18:16] <ddgoose-boxen> but unfortunately mksq.. hangs before it spits out which directory
[18:21] <ddgoose-boxen> doing strace on it to see if I can catch the file/directory
[18:43] <nwidger> hey guys
[18:43] <nwidger> the default sound card isnt the one i want, does anyone know how to change it?
[18:43] <nwidger> it chose the onboard chip but i want to use my audigy :\
[18:49] <ddgoose-boxen> ok wasn't a directory after all, was 2 font files in the mplayer osd fonts
[18:49] <ddgoose-boxen> individually they squash
[18:49] <ddgoose-boxen> but in that directory they will not
[18:49] <ddgoose-boxen> very strange
[18:51] <laga> ddgoose-boxen: why does it ship its own copy of the mplayer osd fonts? dod
[18:51] <laga> odd*
[18:51] <ddgoose-boxen> not sure, but I am dissecting the files now to see whats up with them
[18:53] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: are you at UDS, too?
[18:53] <ddgoose-boxen> osd-mplayer-a.raw & osd-mplayer-b.raw
[18:57] <ddgoose-boxen> both files squash on their own, or together, but when placed in there source folder they wont squash
[18:58] <laga> very odd.
[18:59] <laga> sounds like a bug in mksquashfs?
[18:59] <tgm4883_laptop> laga, no
[18:59] <tgm4883_laptop> is UDS right now?
[19:01] <ddgoose-boxen> going to build current svn release and see if it still happens
[19:01] <laga> FOSScamp is happning now AFAIK
[19:01] <ddgoose-boxen> what is UDS?
[19:02] <tgm4883_laptop> Uber Dork Session
[19:02] <tgm4883_laptop> or Ubuntu Developers Summit
[19:02] <laga> yeah, that's why i was wondering if you were going
[19:02] <tgm4883_laptop> I forget
[19:03] <laga> duh
[19:03] <laga> now i know what that guy in the forums meant: "Nova-T 500 not detected (and no its NOT the reversion!) "
[19:04] <laga> he was referring to the revision
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> bah, I seem to be having DPMS issues since I started using the internal player for mythvideo instead of xine
[19:04] <laga> or not? seems the novta td 500 is a "diversity" model
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> can I run xset commands through ssh?
[19:08] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: yes, set DISPLAY first
[19:08] <laga> export DISPLAY=:0 xset -foo
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[19:08] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks
[19:09] <MythbuntuGuest87> Hi! Does anybody know the steps to get the propper channel line up fron Schedules direct in mythtv
[19:09] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest87, proper channel lineup?
[19:10] <MythbuntuGuest87> yes, I get maybe 12 channels out 70 with the right info the rest get a repeat like "SHOPNBC"
[19:11] <tgm4883_laptop> is it the right info on the SD website?
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest87> yes, I have contacted SD even followed a few steps to make sure I was getting the rifht info from them... They say is on mythtv's side
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> strange
[19:13] <tgm4883_laptop> what tuner?
[19:13] <MythbuntuGuest87> thanks TGM4883!  I have a PVR-500 running under Mythbuntu 8.04
[19:16] <tgm4883_laptop> are the channel numbers correct?
[19:16] <tgm4883_laptop> where do you live?
[19:17] <MythbuntuGuest87> Coronado,CA zip is 92118
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest87> the channel numbers are correct but most of them don't have the name right. SPIKETV appears as SHOPNBC
[19:18] <tgm4883_laptop> did you try removing the lineup and cards from mythtv-setup, then re put them in there then mythfilldatabase again?
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest87> and of course the shows are not right either
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> the shows are not right either?
[19:19] <MythbuntuGuest87> on 75% of the channels, no.
[19:19] <tgm4883_laptop> what do you mean?
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest87> I have about 10 channels that show the correct name to it and also the right show.
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest87> the rest of them show incorrect names to the channel number and incorrect shows
[19:21] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[19:21] <tgm4883_laptop> try what i suggested above
[19:22] <tgm4883_laptop> theres another way, but it's more tedious
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest87> Ok, so go into mythtv setup remove the capture cards and then create them again?
[19:24] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest77, and the channel lineups
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest87> ok, just a min
[19:30] <MythbuntuGuest87> TGM: still getting the same, I just ran mythfilldatabase --refresh all
[19:31] <MythbuntuGuest87> This is a fresh install I just did yestarday, but I've always ran into the same issue with the lineups
[19:33] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[19:33] <tgm4883_laptop> go into mythweb
[19:33] <MythbuntuGuest87> already there...
[19:34] <tgm4883_laptop> go into settings and channel info
[19:34] <tgm4883_laptop> there is a column called xmltvid
[19:35] <tgm4883_laptop> look and see if the numbers for the wrong channels are all the same
[19:35] <MythbuntuGuest87> ok, went into settings.... looking for the xmltvid column
[19:36] <tgm4883_laptop> you are on the channel info page right?
[19:36] <tgm4883_laptop> the xmltvid column should be the 3rd column
[19:37] <MythbuntuGuest87> I clicked ont the icon with a key and a hex key
[19:38] <MythbuntuGuest87> got it
[19:38] <tgm4883_laptop> got it, good
[19:38] <MythbuntuGuest87> xmltvid third column
[19:38] <tgm4883_laptop> so check the numbers for the wrong channels now
[19:38] <tgm4883_laptop> see if they are all the same
[19:39] <MythbuntuGuest87> ok just a min
[19:41] <MythbuntuGuest87> mhhh! the ones that have problems actually show the channel two times.  one of them appears as SHOPNBC and the other one apperas with its propper name
[19:41] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[19:42] <MythbuntuGuest87> should i just delete the incorrect ones
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> lets go ahead and try deleting the wrong ones
[19:42] <MythbuntuGuest87> jsut a min
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> you could try deleting just a few and seeing if it fixes it for those
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> before doing them all
[19:45] <MythbuntuGuest87> dang! i just did 'em all expect one
[19:45] <MythbuntuGuest87> should i try running mythfildatabse again?
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> you already should have the data
[19:46] <MythbuntuGuest87> i'll go back to listings in mythweb
[19:47] <MythbuntuGuest87> well! you are the man!
[19:47] <MythbuntuGuest87> bravo!!
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> no prob ;)
[19:48] <MythbuntuGuest87> is there anything to be backed up with these settings? will I loose theis  whenever i run mythdill database again
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> good question
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> lets run it and find out
[19:49] <MythbuntuGuest87> I guess this is a quick fix, if not I'll just delete 'em whenever needed!
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> well if they come back we can add a command to mythfilldatabase to not add new channels
[19:51] <MythbuntuGuest87> nice, would you know that command off you head?
[19:58] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest87, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythfilldatabase#Command_line_options
[19:58] <tgm4883_laptop> look at the --remove-new-channels  option
[19:58] <MythbuntuGuest87> thanks a lot!
[20:00] <MythbuntuGuest87> do you have time for one more question? I'm currently using mythbuntu 8.04 and would like to have ubuntu hardy added to it. is it a better to go from and installed mythbuntu to ubuntu or  start with ubuntu and add mythbuntu to it?
[20:01] <tgm4883_laptop> either is fine
[20:02] <tgm4883_laptop> although if you have a slow connection, it's probably better to start with ubuntu
[20:02] <tgm4883_laptop> if you have a fast connection, shouldn't matter
[20:02] <ddgoose> yeah, you can just apt-get ubuntu-desktop, or use mythbuntu-control-center to add it
[20:02] <MythbuntuGuest87> since I already have mythbuntu and a decent connection I would just need to go to synaptic?
[20:03] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest87, you can add it from mcc
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest87> so hardy is already compatible and updatable ?
[20:03] <MythbuntuGuest87> nice nice nice!
[20:04] <tgm4883_laptop> yes providing you are running mythbuntu 8.04
[20:04] <tgm4883_laptop> mythbuntu and ubuntu are closely relate
[20:04] <tgm4883_laptop> d
[20:06] <MythbuntuGuest87> very helpful chat, thanks again TGM
[21:45] <nespinosa> On mythbuntu 8.04, when I want to watch TV, the screen becomes black and then return to the menu. What could be the problem?
[22:55] <leprechau> anyone know if it's possible to bet more than 800x600 out of the svideo out on a radeon 9000.....I would like to get at least 1024x768 from it
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, no
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[22:55] <leprechau> ?
[22:56] <leprechau> I don't mind getting my hands dirty and patching/building source or whatever...just would like to not have to go ebay another card
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> leprechau, I refer you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svideo
[22:57] <leprechau> and? ... i know it's possible... I can get 1024x768 on svideo on my old gf4 ... but it's pci and I need an agp card to fit my 2x pvr150s + sblive in there
[22:57] <leprechau> it just won't do it with the radeon 9000
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> no idea then
[22:59] <leprechau> aight...thanks
[23:22] <leprechau> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250247442610
[23:22] <leprechau> found one ;}
[23:22] <leprechau> only $20 too
[23:53] <pteague> hehe, my frontend is 500mhz, 128mb ram, & 8mb ram on graphics board
[23:54] <pteague> i'm hoping the vid card uses shared ram...


[08:59] <ubotu> New on thefridge: Launchpad in October: Bazaar and Mirror additions <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/624>


[00:39] <sergiusens> cjwatson: for testing purposes, I'm looking into adding extra data into the manifest under our CI, something like source: {vcs-bzr: 'lp:...', vcs-rev: '...'} ... technically it works and I can retrieve the autopilot tests from bzr. I'm just wondering if you had a better idea
[02:23] <SpamapS> Hrm.. something wonky in Ubuntu 13.04 vs. 12.10 and earlier..
[02:23] <SpamapS>     sed -i -e 's/\(^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.*\)"$/\1 nomodeset vga=normal"/' /etc/default/grub
[02:23] <SpamapS> used to ensure we'd get no graphical consoles
[05:42] <mardy> dobey: pong :-)
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[09:00] <infinity> @pilot out
[11:38] <mdeslaur> diwic: there is an apparmor API that pulseaudio can use to determine if a client is confined. Please ask tyhicks about it when he gets here
[11:39] <diwic> mdeslaur, okay
[11:39] <diwic> mdeslaur, so yet another build dependency for PulseAudio (apparmor) then?
[11:39] <diwic> mdeslaur, do you think we should have a meeting about PulseAudio + touch + security?
[11:40] <mdeslaur> diwic: we can do that...please invite me, tyhicks and jdstrand
[11:41] <diwic> mdeslaur, btw, a quick question; I added rtkit to my test image, which PulseAudio talks to over system dBus. Is this prohibited on touch?
[11:41] <mdeslaur> diwic: no, that's fine
[11:41] <diwic> mdeslaur, if it's working just like on the desktop then it's something else, but I figured it was worth asking before digging deeper
[11:42] <mdeslaur> I'm not aware of any reason that wouldn't work on touch
[11:42] <diwic> ok
[11:42] <mdeslaur> unless consolekit isn't working on touch or something
[11:44] <diwic> mdeslaur, consolekit? I thought we switched to logind.
[11:44] <mdeslaur> d'uh, yes, logind
[11:47] <tumbleweed> doko: the bug I mentioned last night http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=719485
[12:17] <tkamppeter> I have removed the binary package ghostscript-cups and have moved the contents into cups-filters, is it OK if cups-filters has breaks/conflicts/replaces: ghostscript-cups? Or do I need a ghostscript-cups transitional package (provided by which source package and what should it depend on?). How can I make an update uninstall the current ghostscript-cups when cups-filters 1.0.36 gets installed?
[12:17] <tkamppeter> pitti: ^^
[12:51] <sergiusens> cjwatson: hey, did you see my Q about click manifest entries for testing?
[12:54] <tkamppeter> Anyone can help me with a packaging issue?
[12:58] <pete-woods> fginther: good morning!
[12:59] <pete-woods> fginther: would you be able to regenerate the libqtdbustest and libqtdbusmock jenkins jobs? they don't seem to have picked up the test and coverage reporting that is configured in the back-end configuration
[13:54] <fginther> pete-woods-lunch, updating jobs now
[14:43] <fginther> pete-woods-lunch, I've finished regenerating the jobs, please let me know if they need more love
[15:05] <pete-woods> fginther: thanks! that seems to have fixed it!
[15:07] <bdmurray> ev: bug 982082 has a couple of links to errors that no longer work (see comment #6).  Do you know what might have caused this?
[15:07] <ev> bdmurray: they're probably on the old database
[15:08] <ev> they're not gone forever. We have a plan to merge the data back in, but it's going to take a couple of weeks
[15:08] <nemo> http://m8y.org/images/temp.png (??) http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt (what I see on terminal)
[15:09] <bdmurray> ev: but I should be able to find similar ones just with a lower count?
[15:11] <jamespage> barry, hey - I was looking at setuptools/distribute merging upstream and someone pointed me at your mail to the debian-python ML
[15:12] <jamespage> barry, are you planning any work in that area this cycle?
[15:19] <stokachu> dholbach: i updated that keepalive merge with your suggested changes
[15:19] <stokachu> dholbach: i dont think it qualifies as a full sync so i kept it as a merge
[15:27] <barry> jamespage: i'd like to, but i'm pretty busy with phone stuff so i don't know if i'll get to it :(
[15:27] <jamespage> barry, thats fine - I just wanted to check that I'm not stepping on your toes or anything if I do
[15:27] <barry> jamespage: no, it would be fantastic if you take it on
[15:28] <barry> jamespage: and i'd be happy to review/test/sponsor
[15:28] <jamespage> barry, thanks
[15:30] <mdeslaur> bdrung: any chance of a new version of ubuntu-dev-tools soon?
[15:31] <ev> bdmurray: I don't follow your question
[15:32] <ev> bdmurray: oh right. Yes :)
[15:32] <bdmurray> ev: I could go to e.u.c/?package=ubuntu-release-upgrader and look for similar IOError crashes
[15:32] <ev> bdmurray: you could look it up by the actual crash signature
[15:43] <dholbach> stokachu, ok cool - will take a look in a bit
[15:44] <stokachu> dholbach: no worries, thanks for the help
[15:46] <pete-woods> fginther: so that change seems to have enabled coverage reporting, but I can't seem to autoland any more (with strange build errors)
[15:46] <pete-woods> fginther: http://s-jenkins:8080/job/libqtdbustest-saucy-amd64-autolanding/4/console
[15:46] <fginther> pete-woods, looking
[15:46] <pete-woods> fginther: thanks :)
[15:46] <fginther> gah!!!
[15:55] <fginther> pete-woods, I found the problem, I've reapproved to retest and will monitor
[15:59] <pete-woods> fginther: excellent, thanks!
[17:56] <punter> I'm new: I have 3 packages I want to upload to launchpad, 1 is dependent on 2 and 2 on 3. Should I offer them through the same PPA or set up different PPAs given that some people might want to download just 3, or just 2+3 ?
[17:58] <beuno> punter, I don't think you can depend on packages in other PPAs, so you would have to ship them all in the same one
[17:59] <punter> Thanks beuno
[18:40] <knocte> Cimi: ping
[19:24] <achiang> punter: yeah, what beuno said. just put them all in the same PPA
[19:24] <punter> thanks achiang
[20:26] <bdrung> mdeslaur: i wanted to upload it to debian after you asked me, but it fails in an unstable pbuilder instance: https://paste.debian.net/24738/
[20:29] <mdeslaur> bdrung: :(
[20:29] <mdeslaur> lool: ^
[20:34] <mdeslaur> bdrung: perhaps replace "name = name.decode(encoding)" with "name = name and name.decode(encoding)"
[20:56] <bdrung> mdeslaur: name and name.decode(encoding)?
[20:56] <mdeslaur> yeah, if name != None, it will do the decode
[20:57] <mdeslaur> else it won't
[20:57] <bdrung> okay. if name: name = ... is easier to read
[20:57] <mdeslaur> sure, that works too
[20:57] <bdrung> mdeslaur: will you commit that change?
[20:58] <mdeslaur> uh, sure, one sec
[20:58] <bdrung> thanks
[21:00] <punter> I'm new: When I upload a source package to launchpad, does it automatically get built for every (recent) release of Ubuntu? If not, is there an automatic way to do it other than submit many times?
[21:02] <mdeslaur> bdrung: done, thanks
[21:04] <punter> someone? :(
[21:04] <beuno> punter, so, this is not the right channel to ask for help with PPAs, this is specifically targetted to developing the core of Ubuntu
[21:04] <beuno> punter, I'd suggest #launchpad
[21:05] <punter> Ok, thanks!
[21:19] <bdrung> mdeslaur: thanks & uploaded.


[05:01] <kratkit> hello
[12:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> [05:42 pm] <76b3The_LoudSpeakerQuery: How do I install steam on eoan? I tried apt install steam-installer but it says unmet dependencies, depends on steam but it is not installable.
[12:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Should have asked here only. Trying in lubuntu.
[12:23] <guiverc2> The_LoudSpeaker, I gather from #ubuntu you had a prior question answered; you could always search irc logs for that conversation  (just a thought; I've done it before..)
[12:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> That was more than a month ago. I don't remember the date. Plus considering the no of users and daily queries on that channel. It wouldn't be easy.
[12:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> But I will give it a try in an hour or so. If someone answers before that then it's good.
[12:25] <guiverc2> I've found my conversations before by searching my username; I'd hope yours is unique enough to work too... I don't know anything about steam so can't help sorry
[12:26] <tMH> guiverc2 - hiya. I've installed lubuntu 16.40 and discovered, that _no_ browsers are about to run on my system.. honestly, I don't need much GUI and browing on that machine - it's a filehoster, but I just wonder - why ? old xubuntu 12.* was able to run freshly updated firefox, srware iron (chrome fork) etc...
[12:28] <guiverc2> Lubuntu 16.04 LTS had 3 years of support; it ended 2019-April and is no longer supported by the Lubuntut team.  I'd recommend Lubuntu 18.04 LTS; or using Ubuntu 16.04 Server for hosting/file-serving functions
[12:28] <guiverc2> tMH, ^
 tMH: Firefox doesn't run? Also, End of Support.
[12:28] <tMH> guiverc2 - so - no chance to run gui browsers at all ?:/
[12:29] <guiverc2> gui browsers may work; but given the GUI is EOL; it's not wise.  It's also off-topic (16.04) due to EOL
[12:30] <guiverc2> packages found in 'main' still have support for 16.04, packages found in 'universe' (or community supported) are EOL
 Firefox is in main only right?
[12:32] <tMH> sad to hear...
[12:32] <guiverc2> yes Firefox for 16.04 is in main/security so is okay, but the rest of Lubuntu desktop is from 'universe'
[12:32] <guiverc2> Kylin & Unity 7 (ubuntu-desktop) still have support in 16.04
 Ouch.
 tMH: I suggest you should upgrade to 18.04 atleast to get proper support and working software.
[12:34] <guiverc2> tMH, You may still get responses in Ubuntu Forums; I'm trying to follow on-topic details (where 16.04 Lubuntu is off-topic due to being EOL)
[12:34] <guiverc2> (I mention Ubuntu forums primarily as its the least worried about rules/EOL in my experience...)
[12:50] <tMH> guiverc2 - you know, I'v tried to upgrade xbununtu to 18.04 and met nvidia drivers problem... this is the reason why I stopped on 16.04 ...
[12:50] <tMH> xubuntu even
[12:56] <guiverc2> tMH, others may help, we all follow the rules as we see them, and as Lubuntu see's 16.04 as EOL, it's off-topic here, and I'll abide by that sorry.  Modern browsers require certain CPU flags; I suspect your 12.04 had really old browser (thus didn't require the flags), and I have boxes here that won't use modern chromium/firefox; ie. it's not the Lubuntu, but the browser that is rejecting your cpu as non-compliant.. but it's an educated guess)
[12:57] <guiverc2> I'll power up an old nokia here,  it's so old it won't use modern browsers... and see if I can gain info on what I remember...
[13:00] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: For your steam problem you may be running into this issue https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848001 We'll need some further information to be sure.
[13:02] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly.
[13:18] <guiverc2> tMH, my old nokia box runs firefox 31.8 fine, but had issues with SSE2 & other flags not being present; https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/62.0/system-requirements/ shows SSE2 is required, but I don't know which release of firefox introduced that requirement (thus P4 or newer & not some celeron & newer by more limited cpus)
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly …], https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95jngHXD9Y/
 I thought Steam only provided Steam for LTSes?
 o.O
 @The_LoudSpeaker you *do* have Multiverse repos enabled yes?
 and you did an `apt update` (i'm assuming)
[15:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> I had run steam on 19.04. so it's definitely not only for LTSes
[15:09] <kc2bez> Steam has their own repos, you might need them too. Did you try installing from the deb on the Steam website?
[15:09] <kc2bez> It should add them for you.
 ... just for kicks, what happens if you try and do `sudo apt install steam`, I'm wondering what deps its brekaing on.  But yes you should also install using the .deb from the Steam site
[15:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> Umm. I am behind sophos so can't access the website.
 then even if you DID manage to install it, you wouldn't be able to use it
 because it needs to access Steam's sites too ;)
[15:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> Apt install steam says it's it has no installation candidate.
 then your repos are out of date, 'cause `steam` is in the repos... it's an i386 package mind you but...
[15:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> Actually there's a catch. If I just connect and start a csgo game using mobile data then shift to lan. It still runs.
 CS:GO has different internals it reaches out to than Steam ;)
 i think you're missing my point - Steam *itself* needs to access Steam's site and resources, if *that* is blocked even if you install it it won't work
[15:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will connect to my own vpn after dinner later and try the deb from steam's site?
[15:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> *!
[16:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> Pros and cons of Installing lubuntu in an extended partition.
[16:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> ?
[23:26] <exit70> can lxqt power mgmt show time to empty? i find myself running upower command from time to time.
[23:30] <guiverc> exit70, https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.12/power_management.html is the manual page on it; I rarely use laptops so have no idea; but I'd suspect it'd be an annoying figure (constantly changing as you vary what you do, unless they smooth out the jumps & make it inaccurate..)
[23:31] <exit70> this is exactly what i see :)


[08:56] <slickymasterWork> knome: you around?
[09:00] <slickymasterWork> knome, do you think it's worth to file a new bug against ubiquity-slideshow referring that the Utopic ISO welcome slide still referrers to 14.04 and that the last slide still holds a goat image?
[09:02] <ochosi> meh, we'll change the slideshow rather late in the cycle as usual
[09:02] <ochosi> and it'll probably need more work than those two things
[09:03] <slickymasterWork> yes, I know ochosi, just asking if it's worth to do it, so to sort of having some kind of paper trail
[09:03] <ochosi> i guess i'd rather add an item to a blueprint saying "Update slideshow for 14.10" :)
[09:03] <ochosi> depends a bit on how we want to track our things this cycle
[09:04] <ochosi> from my pov, the blueprints worked fine in 14.04
[09:04] <gry> how do I add a blueprint item?
[09:04] <gry> and why do you mention .10 while the other one of you mentions .4?
[09:05] <slickymasterWork> yeah, agree ochosi It would serve the same purpose
[09:05] <slickymasterWork> even though we're still going to decide if we're going to be working with Trello
[09:07] <ochosi> you mean trello over blueprints?
[09:07] <ochosi> i'm generally okayish with that, but the whole process-tracking and buglinking can't really be done in trello
[09:07] <slickymasterWork> yes ochosi
[09:07] <ochosi> imo we can use trello within teams, but for the overall performance the blueprints provide a good overview
[09:08] <slickymasterWork> I'm referring to use Trello to keep track of the workflow progress
[09:09] <ochosi> i guess you have to give me an example for that
[09:11] <slickymasterWork> https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa <- ochosi, this what elfy and I use during the T cycle
[09:12] <slickymasterWork> that's what I was referring to
[09:12] <knome> depends if there is a branch for utopic for the slideshow already or not
[09:13] <slickymasterWork> I think there's already one knome. Let me confirm it
[09:13] <knome> gry, you don't, the team does that
[09:14] <knome> slickymasterWork, would need to log in to trello to see that pad ;)
[09:14]  * knome shrugs
[09:14] <slickymasterWork> knome, yes there is -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[09:15] <knome> good, then i could land that change in today
[09:15] <slickymasterWork> knome, ochosi, give me a sec and I'll add you both to that pad
[09:16] <ochosi> thanks slickymasterWork
[09:16] <ochosi> i'm already on trello, so it should be straightforward
[09:16] <knome> i'm not on trello though ;)
[09:16] <slickymasterWork> what's your username on Trello ochosi?
[09:17] <ochosi> my realname
[09:17] <slickymasterWork> knome, can you please check your mail?
[09:17] <slickymasterWork> ochosi, Simon or full name?
[09:17] <ochosi> full realname :)
[09:18] <ochosi> don't you think the username "simon" would already have been taken? ;)
[09:18] <slickymasterWork> ochosi: Simon Steinbeib or am I way off :P
[09:18] <ochosi> (note: i wasn't among the first ten users to register on trello )
[09:19] <knome> slickymasterWork, ss or ß
[09:19] <ochosi> s/b/ss
[09:19] <ochosi> it should be Ã anyway
[09:19] <ochosi> err, weird keyboard encoding
[09:19] <knome> yes
[09:19] <slickymasterWork> ok, you're both in
[09:22] <slickymasterWork> knome, another think I wanted to discuss with you is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1299286
[09:22] <ochosi> that's how i'd imagine it
[09:23] <ochosi> but yeah, the buglinks etc are missing a bit
[09:23] <ochosi> i had a similar board with bluesabre towards the end of 14.04
[09:23] <ochosi> as i said, i think it works well for smaller entities, like teams, to manage the workflow
[09:23] <knome> i think trello can be helpful
[09:23] <slickymasterWork> the only way to do that in trello would be to add full url's to them ochosi
[09:23] <knome> but the work items are pretty much the same
[09:23] <knome> and they track bug statuses automatically
[09:24] <knome> and everything is linked in to launchpad
[09:24] <slickymasterWork> but on otho you can mail directly the users with tasks pending in Trello
[09:24] <slickymasterWork> s/otho/otoh
[09:25] <slickymasterWork> and that's a good work asset imo
[09:26] <slickymasterWork> knome: when you marked that bug as Wishlist your intention was just to postponed it until .1 cycle or was it something else?
[09:27] <knome> slickymasterWork, both. it's generally not something we *need* to add, or anything critical
[09:27] <knome> people can subscribe to blueprints in launchpad as well
[09:27] <knome> and they get more meaningful mails
[09:27] <knome> from what i've understood
[09:30] <slickymasterWork> yes, they can knome, but with trello you can set deadlines to particular tasks/members within the same 'project/blueprint' which is something that LP blueprints doesn't allow
[09:31] <slickymasterWork> and this feature provides a better control of the workflow within a specific project
[09:32] <knome> actually, LP work items *do* allow specific deadlines...
[09:42] <sidi-valencia> light-locker just failed to lock
[09:42] <sidi-valencia> and prevented me from going to any tty
[09:42] <sidi-valencia> except my X session's
[09:42] <sidi-valencia> which got opened directly
[09:42] <sidi-valencia> scary!
[09:44] <slickymasterWork> damn connection
[14:02] <knome> slickymasterWork, did you see my reply...
[14:02] <knome> "launchpad allows settings deadlines to specific time"
[14:06] <slickymasterWork> yes knome, I had to consult the logs
[14:06] <slickymasterWork> but I did saw it
[14:07] <slickymasterWork> didn't knew about that, tbo, the team have never used before as much as I can remember
[14:07] <knome> no, we haven't used that feature
[14:07] <knome> the limitation in it is the milestones set by the release team in LP
[14:08] <knome> but that's hardly a limitation
[14:08] <slickymasterWork> we should as it permits a rigorous control on the workflow per item of any givem project
[14:08] <slickymasterWork> * givem
[14:08] <slickymasterWork> *given
[14:08] <knome> again, if people think it brings any additional value... we can start doing it
[14:10] <slickymasterWork> well, at least it's an added point to the discussion
[14:10] <knome> i understand why trello is good for some teams and for some projects
[14:10] <knome> while you've been using trello, i've used the pad a lot with other things
[14:11] <slickymasterWork> elfy and I did found productive in -qa last cycle
[14:11] <slickymasterWork> + it
[14:11] <knome> then by all means use it ;)
[14:12] <slickymasterWork> on a different subject, that Whishlist bug in docs, about VirtualMachines, in your opinion we should leave it for the time being?
[14:12] <knome> the status just means it's very low priority :)
[14:13] <slickymasterWork> my only doubt about it would be where to put it
[14:13] <knome> it it's potentially more FAQ material than something for the docs
[14:13] <slickymasterWork> I mean, I can write something addressing the issue, but in what section should it be added?
[14:13] <slickymasterWork> exactly
[14:14] <knome> -it
[14:14]  * knome sucks at typing today
[14:14] <knome> also, i should go out
[14:14] <slickymasterWork> lol, join the club ;)
[16:01] <elfy> mornafternooneveight everyone
[16:02] <knome> hey elfy
[16:02] <ElderDryas> g'day (it's shorter:)
[16:02] <elfy> ElderDryas: indeed :)
[16:04] <knome> bbl
[17:51] <brainwash> light-locker article ready for the public audience?
[17:53] <elfy> brainwash: appears to still be waiting images
[17:53] <brainwash> waiting images?!
[17:54] <elfy> seems so
[17:54] <elfy> nothing to do with me
[17:54] <brainwash> mmh ok
[18:30] <knome> waiting some css...
[18:37] <elfy> knome: any reason not to do the QA blueprints that you can think of?
[18:39] <knome> the new project lead does not wish to use blueprints at all :P
[18:41] <elfy> mmm
[18:41] <elfy> I'm going to use bits of paper and e-mail the new XPL my address - door's usually open ...
[18:42] <knome> lol
[18:42] <knome> practically, feel free to set up the blueprints :P
[18:42] <elfy> :)
[18:43] <elfy> knome: so - quick question is the Name box - the bit that sets the url - e.g. xubuntu-t-qa
[18:44] <knome> "it doesn't matter"
[18:44] <knome> but do xubuntu-u-*
[18:44] <elfy> yea
[18:45] <elfy> that was how I thought it worked
[18:45] <knome> yep
[18:45] <elfy> ty :)
[18:45] <knome> the only name that matters is the umbrella blueprint
[18:45] <knome> the others are pulled in automatically as long as they are linked to that
[18:45] <elfy> yep - I'm not doing that :)
[18:45] <knome> so the only thing we want to have is a consistent scheme ;)
[18:46] <elfy> yea - well I'm just going to do the 2 QA ones -bugs and -qa
[18:46] <knome> wondering who should be the approver...
[18:47] <knome> put yourself for now, then change that to the XPL when we know who it is
[18:47] <elfy> ok
[18:47] <elfy> just want to get them done so I can throw away another scrap of paper :p
[18:48] <knome> ;)
[18:55] <elfy> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-u-qa https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-u-bugs
[18:56] <elfy> knome: ask in -release to get them registered? or leave till we have them all?
[18:57] <knome> leave them until we have the correct approver
[18:58] <elfy> yep - I thought so
[18:58] <elfy> also - should -team be the assignee for the QA one - I would have thought -qa - but I don't know if this some bizarre LP thing :)
[21:35] <ochosi> brainwash: it still depends on some css changes that knome asked IS to land...
[21:35] <ochosi> the article has been ready for a while now
[21:38] <knome> he he :P


[03:32] <SmallwoodDR82> fresh install of mythbuntu 14.04, and when I goto make any changes to MySQL Config inside Mythbuntu Control Centre, I get the message "Exception in compareState of Plugin MYSQL" Any ideas?
[19:36] <Kwisher> need help with mythweb after upgrading to xubuntu 14.04 and myth .27
[20:23] <tgm4883> Kwisher: whats the issue?
[20:31] <Kwisher> tgm4883: nevermind, restoring my old image
[20:32] <Kwisher> did an inplace upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 and had all kinds of issues
[20:32] <Kwisher> think i'll just wait till later this summer and do a clean install