[05:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:18] <rbasak> jamespage: bug 1475910 looks like it would be relevant to you
[10:18] <rbasak> Argh. Now we have two bots?
[10:22] <jamespage> rbasak, yuck
[10:28] <Daviey> testing bug 1475992
[10:28] <Daviey> rbasak / jamespage: fix0rd
[10:29] <Daviey> Damn.
[10:32] <rbasak> Daviey: thanks
[14:03] <whollyjordan_> I'm learning the basics of running a linux server (ubuntu.) I want to get feedback on whether it would be considered irresponsible of me to setup and manage websites on a linode.com VPS? No email server. Just a web server. I have a tech background but not in servers. No idea if this is considered a big no no or not for beginners?
[14:38] <fcefan> whollyjordan_: "Just a webserver" is not that easy. You need to choose the webserver (Apache, Lighttpd, Nginx) and configure it accordingly for HTTPS, PHP and the like
[14:48] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I print specific emails from command line? (and also check for new emails all the time?) basically I have a gmail account and I want to be able to print automatically all receiving emails with specific subject.
[14:57] <jerto> mojtaba: I don't see how your question is related to ubuntu server
[15:02] <ogra_> jerto, it is a printserver :)
[15:11] <jerto> ogra_: I don't know anything about print servers ;-). I guess it's a simple Cron task to set up though.
[15:12] <ogra_> :)
[15:17] <obi12341> hello ppl, is there any reason why there is only unbound 1.4.22 in the repos and no 1.5?
[16:38] <teward> anyone know what the minimum specs are to run a Landscape Dedicated Server (personal license)
[17:27] <Luke> I'm trying to run "systemd --user" commands but everything fails because the user dbus isn't running. Is this correct or should there be a dbus already running for the user?
[17:28] <Luke> what's the proper way to start the dbus user instance?
[18:25] <mrtee> my server has two network cards and i assigned openvpn to the secondary one. How can i see what it’s outside ip address is?
[18:26] <enleeten> /sbin/ifconfig
[18:26] <enleeten> or if you're behind a nat, google for whats my ip address
[18:27] <mrtee> i am behind a nat… i tried curl ifconfig.co but it only shows me the one of my primary interface
[18:30] <enleeten> you could try using links2
[18:30] <enleeten> cli browser :)
[18:30] <enleeten> I was thinking traceroute
[18:32] <sarnold> mrtee: you can use curl --interface to select which local addrfess to use as a source
[18:34] <mrtee> the syntax would be curl —interface em1 ifconfig.co ???
[18:35] <sarnold> --interface
[18:36] <sarnold> and if you've configured your openvpn to use a tunnel, and you want to test the other peer's address, you'd use whatever tunnel you configured
[18:36] <mrtee> i signed up for a VPN, all i did was download their config and then load openvpn with —local
[18:37] <enleeten> if you're the client you don't need to know your external ip
[18:37] <enleeten> unless they require it (e.g. for opening a port)
[18:37] <mrtee> well it’s more out of couriosity really
[19:03] <linuxgec1o> hey guys.  i tried this question in #ubuntu, and they seemed to think you guys would be better suited to help. I'm trying start a pxe install of ubuntu from a non-ubuntu pxe server. i have ubuntu iso's, and i have files in what i think are the right places.    but i get kernel panics on pxe boot. anyone able to help me get the files/options right to get a working install?
[19:12] <Luke> Guys i think i've run into a ubuntu specific systemd error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/650665/how-to-use-systemd-user-instance
[19:12] <Luke> my suspicion is that ubuntu isn't set up properly
[19:13] <sarnold> Luke: please file a bug in launchpad if you  think you've found a bug
[19:13] <sarnold> Luke: ubuntu-bug systemd   ought to do the  right thing
[19:13] <Luke> sarnold: ok thank you
[19:14] <Luke> i'm not 100% certain it's a bug yet. i'm not sure exactly what the proper behavior is. but gentoo, for example. does it differently
[19:14] <Luke> i'm looking for confirmation it's a bug basically
[19:16] <sarnold> Luke: systemd is new enough to us that there's probalby only a few people who could say, and the easiest way to get their feedback is a bug report ;) if it's a bug, they'll deal with it there, if it is n't a bug, hopefully they'll explain why before closing :)
[19:16] <Luke> yeah
[19:16] <Luke> ty
[19:16] <Luke> doing it now
[19:20] <Luke> sarnold: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1476364
[19:21] <sarnold> Luke: very nice
[19:23] <Luke> sarnold: seems like a big oversight if it is a bug though... lots of people use user-level upstart for example and systemd is now default
[20:40] <helo> should rescue mode on the server installer have bash?
[20:41] <sarnold> probably
[20:41] <sarnold> dash at a minimum
[20:41] <jamespage> coreycb, congrats!
[20:41] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks!
[20:42] <helo> it apparently does not have dash or bash
[20:42] <helo> or fsck -.-
[20:43] <genii> Perhaps you're confusing grub prompt with rescue prompt
[20:43] <helo> heh, no.
[20:45] <helo> i'm familiar with the ncurses interface (from which i selected rescue mode without root)
[20:50] <genii> The /bin/sh should point to dash, yes
[21:35] <helo> sh may be dash, but there is no dash
[21:36] <helo> oh well, i was just using the server installer as a bootable custom root installer
[21:36] <helo> the live desktop works well enough
[21:43] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey guys - what's the simplest way to get one of these images booted after applying cloud-localds to it?  http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/
[21:52] <Luke> FunnyLookinHat: hey man!
[21:52] <Luke> haven't talked to you in like... 10 years
[22:23] <YamakasY_> any knows if I can set LANG in puppet.conf ?
[22:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Luke, yo!
[22:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry - doing like - a dozen things at once...
[22:31] <FunnyLookinHat> lhoerste ?
[22:33] <Tzunamii> YamakasY_: LC_ALL=<change me> LANG=<change me> service puppet start
[22:34] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: doesn't work
[22:35] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: I need to set it in the init.d file
[22:35] <Tzunamii> YamakasY_: What did you substitute <change me> with?
[22:35] <YamakasY_> en_US.UTF-8
[22:36] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: it's a known issue
[22:36] <YamakasY_> Tzunamii: https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/SERVER-779
[22:37] <sarnold> ewww. gross.
[22:38] <YamakasY_> sarnold: wazzup ?
[22:38] <sarnold> hey YamakasY_ :)
[22:38] <sarnold> YamakasY_: that's some ugly looking errors..
[22:38] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yes and I already know it for months and everyone thought I was nuts
[22:39] <YamakasY_> now you see this error popping up everywhere
[22:39] <FunnyLookinHat> OK - So it looks like uvtool is the best way to test cloud images... but it seems to require root to do everything.
[22:39] <FunnyLookinHat> And it's a big buggy - like it wouldn't attach my ssh keys correctly.
[22:40] <YamakasY_> sarnold: and it seems I can only set the lang in /etc/init.d/puppet
[22:40] <sarnold> FunnyLookinHat: I'd hope being in the libvirtd group would suffice
[22:41] <sarnold> YamakasY_: yeah, the environment variable needs to be set before the program starts
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yap, so ALL doesn't do shit ?
[22:42] <sarnold> YamakasY_: you may also have some success if you use locale-gen to create the locales that your system is missing
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yeah tried that, doesn't work out
[22:42] <sarnold> dang
[22:42] <YamakasY_> or did I need to restart puppet ?
[22:42] <sarnold> no idea about LC_ALL
[22:42] <FunnyLookinHat> sarnold, sudo usermod -a -G libvirtd funnylookinhat && uvt-kvm create test
[22:42] <sarnold> YamakasY_: yeah, you would need to restart it
[22:42] <FunnyLookinHat> That yields: uvt-kvm: error: libvirt: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied
[22:42] <YamakasY_> sarnold: you shitty person, why didn't you told me that earlier ? :P
[22:43] <sarnold> FunnyLookinHat: you don't automatically get added to the group; use newgrp libvirtd to spawn a new shell with the new group
[22:43] <sarnold> YamakasY_: lol :)
[22:43] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok, let's hug and share the feeling
[22:45] <FunnyLookinHat> sarnold, ah duh - yes, thank you.
[22:50] <YamakasY_> sarnold: you!
[22:54] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok fixed
[22:54] <YamakasY_> but the gen and so on doesn't work
[22:55] <sarnold> YamakasY_: I wonder why :/
[22:58] <YamakasY_> sarnold: me also
[22:58] <YamakasY_> I know my gender tho
[22:58] <YamakasY_> gen/gender
[23:00] <YamakasY_> sarnold: what about env in the puppet.conf ?
[23:00] <sarnold> YamakasY_: that's unlikely to work; most programs try to initialize the locale immediately so error messages are properly localized
[23:01] <sarnold> YamakasY_: maybe they added some support for it, but I would be surprised
[23:02] <YamakasY_> sarnold: also the PATH is set in init.d for puppet
[23:05] <YamakasY_> sarnold: this is weird, I remove LANG from environments and restart puppet and it still works :S
[23:06] <sarnold> YamakasY_: how did you remove LANG from the environment, and how did you restart puppet?
[23:06] <YamakasY_> sarnold: just removed the line and did a puppet restart
[23:07] <sarnold> does puppet restart use the init script to restart puppet? or does it just re-exec puppet?
[23:07] <YamakasY_> I just stopped and started it again.. testing now
[23:08] <YamakasY_> sarnold: same, doing a reboot
[23:13] <YamakasY_> sarnold: ok, than it happens again
[23:13] <YamakasY_> where does export place the export ?
[23:17] <sarnold> YamakasY_: 'export' in the current shell? or in an init.d script?
[23:23] <YamakasY_> sarnold: no it's temp in current sheel
[23:23] <YamakasY_> shell
[23:23] <YamakasY_> shall I puppetize it or not ?
[23:23] <sarnold> YamakasY_: then it gets set into the envirnment of the processes spawned by that shell
[23:24] <YamakasY_> yap
[23:24] <YamakasY_> ok, so option... puppetize it I think ?
[23:25] <sarnold> .. do you mean, try to write a puppet recipe to fix the /etc/init.d/puppet on all your systems to set them to e.g. LANG=C?
[23:26] <YamakasY_> sarnold: yes but than in /etc/environment
[23:26] <YamakasY_> I think that is most wise
[23:26] <YamakasY_> most if UTF-8
[23:27] <sarnold> YamakasY_: /etc/environment is only used by PAM services with pam_env -- it shouldn't have any effect on services started via sysvinit scripts
[23:27] <YamakasY_> sarnold: I restart puppet after it ;)
[23:27] <YamakasY_> sarnold: oh btw it does
[23:27] <YamakasY_> for puppet
[23:28] <sarnold> it does? that's odd.
[23:28] <YamakasY_> is it ?
[23:52] <h0mer_> Hopefully im in the right place, but is this the right channel to ask questions about openstack/ubuntu/landscape?
[23:57] <h0mer_> i guess not


[02:17] <jtv> Hi wgrant, hi lifeless
[02:18] <wgrant> Morning jtv!
[02:34] <jtv> Not a very busy channel these days, is it?
[02:35] <lifeless> o/jtv
[23:18] <wgrant> cjwatson: On bmp-webhooks, what's the motivation behind *_git_ref?
[23:19] <cjwatson> wgrant: I think it's cleaner to give a unified description of changes in any of the refs being used; a change in the repository alone isn't very meaningful, say
[23:19] <wgrant> cjwatson: We don't issue ObjectModifiedEvents on supersede, do we?
[23:20] <wgrant> Unless we do, they can't change at all.
[23:20] <cjwatson> wgrant: We do now, I fixed that.
[23:20] <wgrant> Oh.
[23:20] <wgrant> Hm, that's inconvenient.
[23:20] <cjwatson> (back in consistent-bmp-events or so)
[23:20] <cjwatson> That said, supersede would be a "modify old, create new" pair
[23:21] <wgrant> I'd prefer that we special-cased those fields to emit both when either changed.
[23:21] <wgrant> Oh
[23:21] <wgrant> Apart from git_repository.branches and snap.git_ref, git_ref is input-only.
[23:21] <wgrant> BMP never exposes them on the API today
[23:21] <cjwatson> We issue an OME to describe the state change to Superseded, is all.
[23:21] <wgrant> Oh
[23:21] <cjwatson> (Which means that now people actually get mail about that)
[23:21] <wgrant> So the fields can't appear to change in an event?
[23:22] <wgrant> That's what I suspected would be the case.
[23:22] <cjwatson> Yeah, I wonder why these are in BMPDelta to begin with
[23:25] <cjwatson> Maybe a better fix is to delete those *and* their *_branch partners from BMPDelta.delta_values (with a bit more hunting around to make sure of this) and move the webhook payload composition directly into lp.code.subscribers.branchmergeproposal since once it needs to be a superset of BMPDelta's list it doesn't derive very much benefit from being there
[23:25] <wgrant> That's certainly my preference.
[23:25] <wgrant> It seems very weird to have them there.
[23:25] <cjwatson> I probably wouldn't have started down that path had *_branch not been in BMPDelta.delta_values to begin with.
[23:26] <wgrant> Yep
[23:26] <wgrant> It gives us more flexibility with the payload composition.
[23:26] <wgrant> And makes it slightly less strange.
[23:26] <wgrant> (I also don't really know why the new_values thing is separate... surely that's a property of the output format, not the delta... but anyway)
[23:30] <cjwatson> Oh.  Helpful.  Blame leads me back to r5608.7.5, whose commit message is "Further updates".
[23:31] <wgrant> Heh
[23:31] <cjwatson> Trunk-only blame is r6060, which added MP notifications.


[09:26] <justxux> Hi, did anyone encounter this strange bug, when you install an app and it's now shown in the menu, Ubuntu 16.04 Unity?
[10:42] <davmor2> justxux: do you want to run by that again, that has long been a feature, that I think was missing from ubuntu-software-center but worked if you installed from the dash if you mean launcher when you say menu
[10:58] <justxux> davmor2, No, it's about some random Joe that installed an app from a site in deb format,and installed it but didn't find the program in the launcher (menu). After relog it appears, but leaves a sense of incomplete OS.
[14:00] <dobey> davmor2: it's a bug. jusxux should have said "not" instead of "now" there
[14:00] <dobey> davmor2: something wrong with bamf-daemon i guess
[14:02] <davmor2> dobey: ah cool


[07:05] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:06] <didrocks> good morning
[07:06] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi
[08:00] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks
[08:01] <jpnurmi> i should clearly change the irc notification because somehow i keep missing them
[08:01] <didrocks> I removed them :) feeling more focused this way
[11:54] <jbicha> good morning
[11:59] <didrocks> hey jbicha
[12:09] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 0a483bd Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * debian: Prepare for ubuntu branching * https://deb.li/3wdnE
[12:09] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 6841782 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/ control control.in * debian/control: Update gnome-control-center breaks version for ubuntu * https://deb.li/itTde
[12:09] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 0285130 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/VVD
[12:09] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy a8d4bbc Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Upload to jammy * https://deb.li/3OOlz
[13:22] <KGB-2> glib pristine-tar c5f72fe Jeremy Bicha glib2.0_2.72.1.orig.tar.xz.delta glib2.0_2.72.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib2.0_2.72.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/aOFg
[18:37] <KGB-0> gdm signed tags 1154052 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/42.0-1ubuntu4 * gdm3 Debian release 42.0-1ubuntu4 * https://deb.li/34LSi
[18:37] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master e2f0cca Jeremy Bicha debian/patches/ (5 files) * Drop patch disabling Wayland on hybrid laptops using Nvidia's drivers * https://deb.li/ijoXh
[18:37] <KGB-0> gdm ubuntu/master 1b5b2ad Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gdm3 version 42.0-1ubuntu4 * https://deb.li/iGkc
[20:39] <GunnarHj> jbicha: There are reasons why we currently don't have any Ubuntu specific screenshots in the desktop guide. And it's not only because of a lack of docs team resources.
[20:57] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags 93e42c5 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/42.0-3ubuntu2 * mutter Debian release 42.0-3ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/1nJy
[22:28] <holman> Hello o/
[22:30] <holman> I want to report what appears to be a Gnome bug in Jammy. Attempting to connect to an Xfinity (comcast) wifi login page (public wifi), a popup window appears that is useless and unusable and therefore can't log in and connect to wifi.
[22:31] <holman>  I found a workaround to connect through Firefox, but it took 5 minutes and wasn't seemless, so I figured it's worth reporting.
[22:31] <holman> Where would be the best place to report?
[22:32] <holman> I didn't see mention of this behavior in the release notes.
[22:32] <jbicha> holman: thank you for mentioning the issue, but there is already a fix pending for it (LP: #1966418)
[22:33] <jbicha> lots of things use webkit, sorry we didn't mention the captive portal in the release notes
[22:36] <holman> jbicha: no worries, just wanted to make sure it was reported
[22:37] <jbicha> 👍


[06:28] <dodobas> Yutro
[06:38] <hbogner> o/
[06:48] <dodobas> https://sadservers.com/
[07:28] <jelly> pff
[07:28] <jelly> > Get a full remote Linux server with a problem and fix it.
[07:28] <jelly> znači da iDRAC / iLO / IPMI radi
[07:29] <jelly> nagažen im je servis, VM se ne diže :-)
[07:30] <obrut> ni meni se ne dize ! :P :)
[07:30] <jelly> twss
[07:30] <jelly> no wait
[07:30] <jelly> n: A developer created a testing program that is continuously writing to a log file /var/log/bad.log and filling up disk. You can check for example with tail -f /var/log/bad.log. -- This program is no longer needed. Find it and terminate it.
[07:34] <obrut> kill -9 -1 ...
[07:38] <jelly> nažalost traže da ostaviš druge procese a vjerojatno i provjeravaju


 2 machines tested tested here.... fw 5.52 working well.  Testing a 3rd box shortly...
[00:24] <mparillo_> Added the PPA to a VM via the command line. After Discover calmed down, did the upgrade via Discover. Rebooted. Kicker and krunner appear to work. Konsole, System Settings, Kate, Ksysguard, and Discover seem to work, and kinfocenter reports 5.52. Thanks to you and Santa.
 I tried finding something to verify in the fw 5.52 release notes, but most updates are fairly obscur and hard to test.... https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.52.0.php
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[06:00] <valorie> yay, tsimonq2 renewed his Kubuntu membership!
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[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
 hi
 Hello 😃
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hi MichaelTunnell, Sick_Rimmit
 anyone here watch FLOSS Weekly on the TWiT network?
 No but I watch security now
 if so, I will be co-hosting that podcast tomorrow :D … if not, then check out This Week in Linux or Destination Linux instead :D
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 @MichaelTunnell, wouldn't even know wher to look 😳
 @acheronuk, https://twit.tv
 oh right yea that site
 https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/505?autostart=false
 ill watch it but i dont usually watch floss weekly cuz its the most boring floss podcast
 but michael tunnell will probably make it more exciting
 wow youtube commenters are a bit harsh
 on your podcast
 They always are.
 ALWAYS.
 i'm not
 : P
 I didn't say you were.
 most of the time
 I'm saying it's ALWAYS harsh.
 yeah


[17:47] <cmaloney> greets and salutations
[17:48] <rick_h> afternoon
[17:48] <greg-g> morning
[18:04] <cmaloney> How goes the battles?
[18:07] <rick_h> wheee
[18:07] <rick_h> first PT appointment today and walking around w/o a crutch so yay!
[18:07] <rick_h> of course...10 days until they cut it up and I'm back on crutches 24/7 ...
[18:08] <jrwren> ugh.
[18:08] <jrwren> i definitely overdid it on Saturday. Sunday was painful.
[18:11] <rick_h> that's why weekends are two days :)
[18:11] <jrwren> lol, true!
[18:20] <cmaloney> heh


[00:08] <zartoosh> HI I am getting this error during installation of my debian packages;  "libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.1) but 2.19-0ubuntu6.3 is to be installed"
[00:08] <zartoosh> why please help?
[01:03] <valorie> zartoosh: you can try `sudo apt-get -f install`
[01:03] <valorie> which will force it
[04:02] <zxq9> Ugh. Why does the Japanese local adhere to outdated Windows standards by default? Backslashes have yen mark glyphs in several fonts, jis7 instead of utf-8, etc. :-/
[04:03] <zxq9> I think Ubuntu is the only distro that behaves like this in ja-JP locale.
[04:05] <valorie> very strange
[04:06] <valorie> please file a bug zxq9
[04:06] <valorie> best way is `ubuntu-bug locale` in the commandline
[04:07] <zxq9> I'm almost certain the response will be "that's a feature" -- but I'll file it anyway.
[04:08] <valorie> it doesn't sound like a feature to you, or to me
[05:08] <blahblahblah99> anyone here
[05:08] <blahblahblah99> Hi could anyone help me my kubuntu kde x64 issue please
[05:13] <blahblahblah99> Or can anyone point me in the right direction to fix my issue.  Its about my video card?
[05:17] <valorie> blahblahblah99: can you give more detail?
[05:18] <blahblahblah99> Valorie yes I can
[05:21] <blahblahblah99> So I have laptop with the GeForce 8200M G in it and I installed Kubuntu KDE x64.  So my screen or desktop is huge and I'm trying to get it to normal.  When I type a command in terminal it reads the GeForce 8200M G but in the "Driver Manager" it reads GeForce 9200M G.  I'm guessing that's the issue.  I also have not found anything that helped on line, but I'm also a newbie with linux.
[05:24] <blahblahblah99> I'm just looking for steps or command to do.  I don't want to install ubuntu, and I really wanted to use OpenSuse but samething although suse felt way too savy for me.  But i'm liking the Kubuntu just stuck, I appreciate it ""Valorie"" for your time.
[05:26] <valorie> !nvidia
[05:26] <valorie> pfff
[05:27] <valorie> there it is
[05:27] <blahblahblah99> tha's the link?
[05:27] <valorie> blahblahblah99: I've found a lot of help in the above link
[05:30] <blahblahblah99> "Valorie" where in the link, so sorry I also can't read
[05:31] <valorie> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto <<< blahblahblah99
[05:37] <blahblahblah99> "Valorie" is this the same if it's a the 14.04
[05:38] <valorie> if you go through the steps, and determine the correct driver, yes
[05:40] <blahblahblah99> daumn this way harder than what i thought
[05:40] <valorie> did you try this bit? "
[05:40] <valorie> Video Cards
[05:40] <valorie> Note: Most nVidia-cards will work if you just install the nvidia-glx ("nvidia-glx-legacy" for older cards) package, and run this command: "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[05:40] <valorie> it isn't hard, there are just lots of steps
[05:40] <valorie> and you have to be sure you don't skip any
[05:41] <valorie> I would try the above bit first, if you haven't already tried that
[05:41] <blahblahblah99> I can I give you my email incase I gotta ask you some more questions? I gotta get ready for work
[05:43] <valorie> I'm no expert, blahblahblah99
[05:43] <valorie> your best bet is this channel
[05:43] <valorie> also I'll be out of town quite a bit soon
[05:43] <valorie> there are also forums if you can't use irc
[05:43] <valorie> !forum
[05:44] <blahblahblah99> ok I appreciate it a lot thanks again.  I'll be back when I fail
[05:44] <valorie> IF you fail!
[05:44] <valorie> you may very well succeed
[05:44] <valorie> :-)
[05:45] <blahblahblah99> I sure hope so, thanks again you helped out tons, at least got me in the right direction.  How does someone become awesome with linux?
[05:45] <valorie> hang out in irc!
[05:45] <valorie> lol
[05:45] <valorie> and read stuff, try things out, don't give up
[05:46] <valorie> also I write a blog so when I learn something new, I can consult it later to refresh the knowledge
[05:46] <valorie> 'linuxgrandma' blog
[05:47] <blahblahblah99> lol sweet I will check that out
[05:47] <blahblahblah99> Thank you very much again Valerie have a great day
[05:49] <valorie> you too
[07:03] <Naphatul> how do i keep firefox consistent with my default applications? this time it's opening images in internet explrorer, last time it was opening pdfs in gimp, is there a way to automatically sync them? i had to edit the mime list manually last time
[07:42] <bipul> Hello My headphone is not working with youtube videos. I have checked the volume and all inside my Kubuntu, all seems ok. Don't knwo what to do?
[07:57] <valorie> bipul: that's controlled by pulseaudio
[07:57] <valorie> !pulseaudio
[09:08] <skramer_> Hi. I seem to have a problem with the Meta+Tab key combination, it doesn´t switch activities anymore. Using KDE 4.14.0 on Trusty.
[09:08] <skramer_> I did check in systemsettings already, Meta+Tab is set...
[09:08] <skramer_> Anybody has an idea how to get it working?
[09:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:46] <krissi> how can i get power manager configuration modle to load so can make my screen stay alive on kde neon 5 ?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:55] <kubuntuplasma5> hi
[13:56] <kubuntuplasma5> can anyone help me with advanced utopic beta installation?
[13:56] <kubuntuplasma5> I want to setup crypto+lvm+btrfs and got key error when creating crypto partition
[13:57] <kubuntuplasma5> and even when I install using guided sddm displays blank screen and complains about object being created in different QThread
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kubuntuplasma5, this is a question for #ubuntu+1, but if you installed the new kernel for beta and using nvidia graphics sddm fails if you use plasma5..plasma 5 isn't ready for regular use, it's very broken
[14:13] <kubuntuplasma5> BluesKaj: I'm using Intel gfx and I tried clean install from beta image; as for the crypto part I think it was broken even in trusty
[14:15] <kubuntuplasma5> BluesKaj: but thanks for info, I'll try asking in #ubuntu+1
[14:15] <BluesKaj> kubuntuplasma5, i have no experience with crypto ..no need for it since my pcs are home user machines
[17:43] <alesan> hello
[17:43] <alesan> is it safe to install pulseaudio?
[17:43] <alesan> on kubuntu?
[17:44] <tsimpson> alesan: it'll be installed already
[17:45] <alesan> tsimpson, well but pgrep pulse gives me nothing
[17:45] <alesan> is there anything special I should do?
[17:47] <tsimpson> no, it should just work from a default isntall
[17:47] <alesan> I started it on the command line and now... I see it
[17:47] <alesan> and also skype 4.3 works
[17:48] <alesan> skype 4.3 needs pulseaudio
[18:05] <hid> hello
[19:03] <rberg> anyone have experience with the sipe protocol? I may need to try and connect mto MS lyrc in the future :(
[20:23] <ed653> hi, quick question, I installed krfb on my desktop, set it to allow uninvited connections, set password, port etc, how do I connect to this machine from my (also) kubuntu laptop
[20:30] <BluesKaj> ed653, krdc or a vnc client I believe
[20:43] <jerware> sudo: unable to resolve host jerware
[20:43] <jerware> hi
[20:44] <jerware> so how do I make sudo work?
[20:46] <BluesKaj> jerware, more detail please
[20:54] <ScottyK> Hi! I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 with Libreoffice <IP_ADDRESS>. How can I upgrade it to 4.3.1?
[21:24] <valorie> ScottyK: 13.04?
[21:24] <valorie> I believe that is EOL
[21:24] <valorie> !eol
[21:25] <valorie> yes, that is no longer supported
[21:35] <ScottyK> valorie - correction, 14.04! UGH can't even type right, LOL
[21:35] <valorie> ok, that certainly is supported!
[21:36] <valorie> !libreoffice
[21:36] <valorie> oh pfff
[21:36] <valorie> !info libreoffice
[21:36] <ScottyK> So it's best to wait for 14.10 for the latest libreoffice?
[21:36] <valorie> so that's the package; if you want newer you'll have to get it from elsewhere
[21:37] <valorie> I dunno what they have released; I imagine we package the newest available as long as it is stable
[21:38] <ScottyK> I'm not having any problems with <IP_ADDRESS>, just thought it would be fun to grab the latest. But I can wait for 14.10
[21:40] <valorie> no guarantees, ScottyK - kubuntu packages KDE stuff
[21:41] <valorie> libreoffice is done by the ubuntu packagers -- MOTU probably
[21:41] <valorie> I assume it has a launchpad pad you can check out for progress
[21:42] <valorie> or ask in #libreoffice perhaps
[21:42] <ScottyK> sounds good. thanks!
[21:43] <Unit193> Utopic has the RC, ppa backports from there.  I'm pretty sure LO is in main, thus not MOTU.
[21:43] <Unit193> Erm, duh it's right there, in universe. :P
[21:43] <mhlds> where can i find info of my hdd in kubuntu and disks ?
[21:43] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice says main, actually.
[21:43] <mhlds> and so i can format my usb
[21:46] <valorie> thanks, Unit193
[21:47] <repos> hello
[21:48] <repos> i am new arround here
[21:48] <valorie> hi repos
[21:48] <valorie> what can we help you with?
[21:49] <repos> i installed ubuntu today and changed the desktop to the kde and i wondered that should i remove the unity?
[21:53] <valorie> repos: if you want to
[21:53] <valorie> no necessity to do so, however
[21:54] <valorie> use the applications you enjoy on either desktop
[21:54] <repos> thanks for the reply
[21:54] <valorie> personally I just install kubuntu directly, but I know what I like
[21:55] <repos> i guess i will make clean install with kubuntu
[21:56] <mhlds> where do i find, disks in kubuntu ?
[21:58] <valorie> disks?
[21:59] <valorie> not sure what you mean, mhlds?
[21:59] <Unit193> valorie: It's what gnome-disks is called, for drive info and such.
[21:59] <mhlds> i want to format my usb
[21:59] <mhlds> i had lxde before. and all i needed to do was clicking on disks
[22:00] <mhlds> then id get info of my hdd and usb and such
[22:00] <mhlds> but i cant find it in kubuntu
[22:00] <mhlds> diskutilities
[22:02] <repos> did you tried dolphin?
[22:03] <mhlds> yes
[22:04] <mhlds> i want something like this http://ttcshelbyville.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/ubuntu-disk-properties.jpg
[22:05] <valorie> KDE Partition Manager is perhaps what you need
[22:05] <repos> Gparted can help you i guess
[22:12] <mhlds> i find a solution
[22:12] <mhlds> sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility
[22:12] <mhlds> it worked ;)
[22:13] <mhlds> but i cant se any eta when transferring files to usb
[22:14] <mhlds> fixed that to :P
[22:14] <mhlds> i haver never tried kde before now
[22:14] <mhlds> allways used lxde and windows
[22:15] <valorie> lots of choices, mhlds
[22:15] <repos> same club mhlds
[22:15] <mhlds> :)
[22:15] <valorie> this isn't religion, it's tools to make your life easier
[22:16] <mhlds> kds is much mor fancy than lxde
[22:16] <mhlds> i like how it looks :)
[22:16] <valorie> me too!
[22:24] <repos> i came from the ubuntu unity and kde is the best :D
[22:26] <valorie> repos: I so agree, and again, it's not religious but a matter of taste (and also I love the KDE community)
[22:29] <mowdy> hey
[22:29] <mowdy> What is the best c/c++ editor for linux
[22:33] <valorie> mowdy: lots of choices; most choose kdevelop or Qt Creator
[22:33] <valorie> if not vim, kate, or other editors
[22:33] <mowdy> does any of them shows syntax colors ?
[22:34]  * valorie is not a coder; no clue
[22:34] <mowdy> ;)
[22:34] <valorie> they are easy to google
[22:34] <mowdy> ill try out kdev
[22:34] <Unit193> vim and kate do, at least.
[22:34] <valorie> obv. qt creator is useful if you are using qt
[22:34] <valorie> kdevelop has a lot of fans
[22:38] <mowdy> kdev seems to do the job :D
[22:38] <mowdy> Thank you 1
[22:38] <mowdy> !
[22:39] <valorie> yay, one more kdev lover!
[23:09] <alex_rock> hello @ all
[23:10] <valorie> hi alex_rock, how can we help?
[23:11] <alex_rock> i got a problem with displaying the remaining battery time on my dell 7537 inspiron. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=Linux" fixes the problem. but now i had no wifi after suspend to ram
[23:11] <alex_rock> (standby)
[23:11] <alex_rock> only a reboot fixes the problem...
[23:11] <alex_rock> to avoid this i removed the grub parameter
[23:12] <alex_rock> valorie: thank you for asking :-)
[23:17] <valorie> !acpi
[23:17] <valorie> hmmm, ubottu has no help
[23:18] <valorie> do you have battery monitor widget?
[23:18] <valorie> oops
[23:21] <rocket_nozzle> valorie: yes. i modified ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc . there is now a empty space where the battery widget have to be, or was before..... after removing grub entry.
[23:23] <valorie> perhaps re-add it?
[23:23] <rocket_nozzle> valorie: i have reconnet via wifi and have now another name  (was alex_rocket before)
[23:23] <valorie> you do that in the plasma toolbar directly
[23:23] <rocket_nozzle> yes
[23:23] <rocket_nozzle> can i send u a snapshot?
[23:24] <valorie> !paste
[23:24] <valorie> I'm not the expert here, so you are talking to the channel of experts
[23:25] <valorie> unfortunately, it's friday night in europe, so many are away or asleep
[23:25] <rocket_nozzle> hehe
[23:26] <rocket_nozzle> http://i.imgur.com/MXbWNNs.png   the battery icon is displayed, when the mouse pointer is over the empty field
[23:27] <valorie> even after re-adding via the plasma "cashew"?
[23:27] <rocket_nozzle> valorie: but why was no battery symbol at beginning. Dont worry about the Debian button. Its kubuntu. changed the button, because i like debian
[23:28] <valorie> ok
[23:28] <rocket_nozzle> cashew? what?
[23:28] <valorie> well, it's possible to just trash your old plasma panel and instead add a new one
[23:28] <valorie> and see if that fixes it
[23:30] <rocket_nozzle> ah ok. I backup my settings before. Which file is for the panel? PS where are u from? europe?
[23:30] <valorie> Washington state in the US
[23:31] <valorie> you click the cashew at the end of the panel
[23:31] <rocket_nozzle> ok
[23:31] <valorie> I see in your image that you have the battery icon on your desktop, rather than down in the panel
[23:31] <valorie> I think that's part of the problem
[23:31] <valorie> you added it to the desktop
[23:32] <valorie> the cashew is on the very end of the panel
[23:32] <valorie> rather small and faint
[23:32] <rocket_nozzle> it is only shown when i go to the panels free space, where it have to be
[23:32] <valorie> I see it on your desktop
[23:32] <valorie> and I suppose you can't drag it down to where it belongs
[23:33] <rocket_nozzle> it is only diplayed at mouse over
[23:33] <vendre_> hello currently have 3/4 versions of the same ubuntu 14.10 as well as a couple of other distros that I dont use all on one netbook. How do I delete all except the one?
[23:34] <valorie> vendre_: are you speaking of ISOs?
[23:34] <valorie> actual installed versions?
[23:34] <vendre_> yes
[23:35] <vendre_> yes
[23:35] <valorie> isos are easy, since they are just a file
[23:35] <valorie> right-click and delete
[23:35] <valorie> installed versions are a bit trickier
[23:36] <valorie> unless you just do a fresh install "use whole disk"
[23:36] <valorie> which is quite fast and easy
[23:37] <valorie> you realize that 14.10 is only in beta?
[23:37] <valorie> sorry, I need to leave
[23:37] <valorie> good luck to you, vendre_ and you rocket_nozzle
[23:38] <vendre_> that did not work
[23:38] <rocket_nozzle> valorie:  http://imgur.com/FpTzzcU so no battery icon. I said before the grub parameter fixes the problem with battery completly. But after thet my wifi does not work after suspend...... so i have to choose diplayed battery correct, or wifi after suspend
[23:39] <valorie> I hope you find someone more expert than me!
[23:39] <rocket_nozzle> ok
[23:39] <rocket_nozzle> have fun
[23:39] <rocket_nozzle> thank you
[23:39] <rocket_nozzle> :-D
[23:40] <valorie> that image shows that your battery widget is NOT installed
[23:40] <valorie> it will have a green checkmark if used on the panel
[23:40] <valorie> bye!
[23:40] <rocket_nozzle> yes! the problem with the dell is known
[23:40] <rocket_nozzle> its nothing with kde
[23:40] <rocket_nozzle> dell 7537
[23:41] <vendre_> It is showing Cntl-x  or F10 to boot, Cntl-c or F2 for a command line or ESC to discard and return t the GRUB menu


[06:25] <cpaelzer> good morning
[10:10] <jamespage> coreycb: hey  so I unwedged b-o-m - and re-did your upload of sphinx-contribwhatever with a ~cloud suffix
[10:10] <jamespage> I've paused bom until we can get sphinx in and built - however its failing with a test error now
[10:40] <MJCD> hey all
[10:40] <MJCD> does anyone know a really control centric 'window manager'
[10:40] <MJCD> I know screen and all that stuff
[10:40] <MJCD> but I want like a mouse and stuff haha
[10:40] <MJCD> so like semi-gui
[10:41] <MJCD> basically all I really want is like 4 tiles gui terminals
[10:41] <MJCD> that'd be aces
[10:41] <MJCD> though if I can configure that on the fly that'd be dope
[12:43] <coreycb> jamespage: great thank you
[12:54] <Olanzapin> hello anyone using ubuntu/debian as server to csgo? I need ta ask a few questions.
[13:00] <hateball> Olanzapin: Just ask the real question(s)
[13:06] <Olanzapin> ahh but they are irellevant in main chat. I use gamesevermanagers script to setup csgo server. Everything is working well no errors. When i start the server i automaticly shutdown the server silently.
[13:07] <Olanzapin> googled on same problem but did not find a solution
[13:07] <hateball> Olanzapin: For something like this I would probably try asking in #gamingonlinux or #steamlug since those channels are for gamers
[13:08] <hateball> More likely to have someone with the same setup I guess
[13:08] <ikonia> Olanzapin: state the version of ubuntu and where the package came from
[13:20] <Olanzapin> ok thx
[13:26] <Olanzapin> ubuntu 16.04 and http://www.gamservermanagers.com
[13:27] <Olanzapin> gameservermanagers.com
[13:42] <ikonia> Olanzapin: so the software isn't from the official repos ?
[13:42] <ikonia> Olanzapin: the best advice would be to verify the logs of what's happening, then work with the people who support that software to debug it
[17:52] <mun24> installed virtualbox on ubuntu by using apt-get install virtualbox
[17:52] <mun24> How to install VBoxWebSrv?
[17:55] <hallyn> rharper: smoser: isthere a tool on ubuntu to create a .ova from a qemu disk image?  I mean it looks not too hard by hand (convert to .vmdk, write a .ovf and .mf, and tar it up), but a tool woudl be sweet.
[18:30] <rharper> hallyn: not that I know of
[18:30] <smoser> note you dont specifically have to have file format of vmdk
[18:31] <smoser> to be "ovf".
[18:31] <smoser> but to use it in vmware, you probably do ;)
[18:31] <smoser> i think that virtualbox can export a ovf
[18:35] <smoser> but other htan that i dont know of any tools.
[18:36] <smoser> hallyn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/588426/how-to-export-and-import-virtualbox-vm-images
[18:50] <hallyn> smoser: yeah, virtualbox isn't out of the question but I don't want gui and hate the vbox commandline :)
[18:53] <hallyn> Ok thanks - just wanted to make sure there wasn't an obvious existing tool i should be using
[18:59] <smoser> hallyn: well, yes. the command line does suck.
[18:59] <smoser> but basically you're just creating a vmdk and substituting text.
[18:59] <smoser> you're actually uinsg vmware ?
[19:05] <hallyn> I'm not :)
[19:05] <hallyn> Well, in some palces I am, through vsphere...  but i want to do this on any linux system, hence want to use qemu-img adn tar as far as possible
[19:31] <jamespage> coreycb: thanks for sorting out the backport of sphinx - what was the issue/
[19:31] <jamespage> ?
[19:32] <coreycb> jamespage: hey np. the imagemagick package needs to be installed on xenial to get alternatives for /usr/bin/ commands configured.
[19:33] <jamespage> I thought it might be something like that
[20:02] <jge>
[20:21] <necrophcodr> I'm running a postfix server, and recently I've started getting "User unknown in virtual alias table" errors with emails sent to my adress. Is there any way to resolve this?
[20:23] <necrophcodr> Oh..
[20:23] <necrophcodr> Turns out that unsetting my "myorigin" fixed it somehow


[17:56] <jerome> HI, I need some help with a sof-firmware issue getting speakers to work on US22.04.  I have a fresh install and I"m following a set of instructions, but I don't have a certain sof.conf file in the directory the instructions anticipate.
[18:01] <kotilo25> HI, I need some help with a sof-firmware issue getting speakers to work on US22.04.  I have a fresh install and I"m following a set of instructions, but I don't have a certain sof.conf file in the directory the instructions anticipate.  Details in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/yikcnc/need_help_porting_a_manjaro_tutorial_for_a_ubuntu/


[21:29] <thumper> wallyworld: https://codereview.appspot.com/53590044/
[22:10] <thumper> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/useing-youre-types-good
[23:24] <bigjools> hello sprinters in dunners


[01:00] <Na3iL> o/
[01:27] <michi> robru: ping
[01:27] <robru> michi: hi
[01:27] <michi> Could you give me hand with my error?
[01:27] <michi> silo 26
[01:27] <michi> All I’m trying to do is merge a branch into devel for testing.
[01:28] <michi> I’m not sure what it means by “sync destination version"
[01:28] <robru> michi: so there's a version of this package in the destination archive that is not in the trunk changelog you're trying to build.
[01:28] <robru> michi: which means if you proceed with this build you will effectively regress whatever that release is
[01:28] <michi> But I have no intention of merging anything into trunk.
[01:28] <michi> The MR targets devel.
[01:29] <michi> And merging trunk into devel correctly says “ nothing to do"
[01:29] <robru> michi: then just use FORCE_REBUILD to ignore the issue and build anyway.
[01:29] <michi> Ah, cool, thanks, that’s the bit I didn’t know about! :)
[01:30] <robru> you're welcome
[01:30] <michi> Thanks!
[02:28] <robru> I'm off to the gym, will be back in ~2 hours in case anything explodes.
[09:26] <robru> ugh there hasn't been a single concurrent build yet since I rolled out that fix 12 hours ago
[09:27] <sil2100> People taking it slow it seems
[10:11] <dbarth> ugh, i guess i need the help of a trainguard for that silo ^^
[10:18] <robru> sil2100: you around? ^ I'm not here and I don't have permission anyway
[10:18] <sil2100> robru, dbarth: sure, on it now
[10:18] <robru> thanks
[10:19] <dbarth> robru, sil2100: landing on xenial; vivid, we're not part of the hotfix release
[10:19] <sil2100> dbarth: we'll need a preNEW review for this one anyway - did you get an archive admin to look at it?
[10:20] <dbarth> sil2100: nope, how can i do that?
[10:20] <sil2100> dbarth: let's just find some ubuntu archive admin that has a free cycle to check the package, since after publishing it goes straight to the overlay PPA
[10:21] <sil2100> (in xenial it's in the NEW queue, but we don't have a queue like that in the overlay)
[10:21] <dbarth> ok
[10:22] <sil2100> I'll look at it first briefly, then we can poke seb128 or slangasek or pitti
[10:22] <seb128> I can have a look to a NEW package after lunch
[10:23] <sil2100> seb128: thanks :)
[10:23] <sil2100> I go prepare a quick breakfast and then take a look at it
[10:24] <seb128> yw!
[11:41] <diwic> trainguards: Please copy pulseaudio 1:6.0-0ubuntu9.10 from ppa:diwic/temp into silo 47
[11:41] <sil2100> diwic: on it
[11:42] <diwic> sil2100, thanks :-)
[11:44] <sil2100> diwic: copy done, builds should start in a moment
[11:59] <sil2100> diwic: hmmm
[12:00] <sil2100> diwic: a sticky situation: I'm reviewing now (packaging wise) silo 9 which has pulseaudio 1:6.0-0ubuntu9.11
[12:00] <sil2100> diwic: once I release it, the 1:6.0-0ubuntu9.10 version will be too small
[12:01] <sil2100> And you'll need to re-base on top of morphis's changes
[12:01] <diwic> sil2100, ok
[12:01] <diwic> sil2100, is it about to be released?
[12:01] <diwic> sil2100, I mean, is a matter of hours or weeks before silo 9 is in the overlay ppa?
[12:01] <sil2100> Yeah, looks good so far, if I find nothing then it should be released to the overlay in a few minutes
[12:01] <diwic> sil2100, ok, then I can rebase on top of morphis changes
[12:02] <sil2100> (not sure why he vesioned it as 1:6.0-0ubuntu9.11 and not as 1:6.0-0ubuntu9.10 tho)
[12:02] <diwic> probably .9 and .10 was internal testing stuff
[12:05] <morphis> diwic: yes it was :)
[12:06] <sil2100> morphis: hey! I had some questions related to the bluez changelog :)
[12:06] <diwic> morphis, anything else in the silos that I need to be aware of / rebase on ?
[12:07] <morphis> sil2100: sure
[12:07] <morphis> diwic: just the patches I added, both are mentioned in the changelog
[12:08] <diwic> morphis, sure, I was asking if you had any other silos in the pipeline
[12:08] <morphis> diwic: no
[12:08] <diwic> good
[12:08] <morphis> no other silos for pulseaudio :)
[12:08] <sil2100> morphis: so, I'm a bit worried when I see that some changelog entries are gettin reverted
[12:09] <sil2100> morphis: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-009-2-publish/2/artifact/bluez_vivid_packaging_changes.diff
[12:09] <bzoltan_> jibel: do you know who is going to play with the UITK in the silo31?
[12:09] <sil2100> morphis: is that intentional?
[12:11] <jibel> bzoltan_, no, why? do you want someone in particular?
[12:12] <bzoltan_> jibel:  i have no preference :)
[12:12] <jibel> bzoltan_, good :)
[12:12] <bzoltan_> jibel:  it is a big beast.. so the one who takes it should be prepared for all
[12:12] <jibel> bzoltan_, if there are any specific points of attention, mention it on the card or in a comment in the silo
[12:15] <jibel> bzoltan_, we've already tamed this kind of beast, thanks for the heads up
[12:41] <morphis> sil2100: feel free to ask :)
[12:42] <morphis> sil2100: btw are the device tarballs from rc-proposed released with ota 8.5 too?
[12:44] <sil2100> 13:08 < sil2100> morphis: so, I'm a bit worried when I see that some changelog entries are gettin reverted
[12:44] <sil2100> 13:09 < sil2100> morphis: is that intentional?
[12:44] <sil2100> morphis: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-009-2-publish/2/artifact/bluez_vivid_packaging_changes.diff
[12:49] <morphis> sil2100: a bit yes, this is a merge with xenial and we want the same on both vivid and xenial soon (still some work needed etc) and cyphermox didn't really liked this funcy citrain based version number to appear there so I took the chance and overwrote what we have in the overlay with what we have in xenial to make sure they are and stay in sync
[12:53] <sil2100> morphis: ok, so cyphermox was ok with such changelog changes?
[12:53] <morphis> sil2100: he didn't reviewed what is in the silo yet but I thought it is ok as we're now fully back in sync with what the changelog looks like in xenial
[12:53] <anpok> trainguars: could you copy the libinput from silo-56 https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/610 to silo-021 https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-021 .. I will not be able to land usc/libinput without the mir hanges in silo-21
[12:53] <anpok> trainguards ^
[13:09] <morphis> sil2100: btw. will the device tarballs we pushed after ota8 in rc-proposed land with ota 8.5 too?
[13:47] <sil2100> morphis: no, no new tarballs
[14:13] <morphis> sil2100: good
[14:16] <dbarth> mardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webapps-sprint/+bug/1512732
[15:03] <boiko> robru: while stuff is in proposed we can't rebuild packages on other silos?
[15:03] <boiko> robru: other silos touching the same packages
[15:25] <anpok> ping trainguards
[15:52] <bfiller> popey: new camera-app in the store needs review when you have a chance
[15:52] <popey> sure bfiller
[15:53] <popey> bfiller, 	'ubuntu-sdk-15.04.3' is not a supported framework
[15:54] <popey> oh, that was intentional?
[15:54] <bfiller> popey: I think sil2100 just added that fw to the store
[15:54] <bfiller> popey: it is intentional, it's uploaded but won't be available until ota9 (but will be inclued in the rc-proposed image)
[15:54] <sil2100> popey, bfiller: yeah, I just now added that, it should be good now
[15:54] <popey> is click-reviewers-tools updated too?
[15:55]  * popey updates his machine to find out
[15:55] <pmcgowan> popey, that "should" pull from the store?
[15:55]  * sil2100 knows nothing about click-reviewers-tools
[15:55] <sil2100> ;)
[15:55] <popey> Well, it's the sdk tool which checks clicks on build
[15:55] <popey> it needs to be in sync
[15:56] <popey> (and what I manually run to verify clicks)
[15:57] <popey> hmmm
[15:57]  * popey pokes it some more
[15:57] <diwic> trainguards: please copy pulseaudio 6:0-0ubuntu9.12 from ppa:diwic/temp to silo 47
[15:57] <sil2100> diwic: on it!
[15:58] <diwic> sil2100, I've rebased it on top of 9.11 which you released earlier
[15:58] <diwic> today
[15:58] <sil2100> Yeah, +1 on that, copy in progress
[15:59] <diwic> sil2100, thanks
[16:11] <bfiller> popey: any luck on the click-reviewers-tool?
[16:12] <popey> bfiller, no, updated... it still complains here.
[16:12] <bfiller> popey: going to ask on sdk channel
[16:13] <popey> I suspect jdstrand might be the one to ask
[16:13] <popey> or beuno, they own that tool
[16:15] <cyphermox> sil2100: morphis: fwiw, still fine for now, but we should try to keep bluez in the overlay a lower version than what's in xenial given that that distro isn't based on xenial. that way, you're sure you get the xenial version if you were ever to upgrade to xenial.
[16:15] <popey> bfiller, aha, yes, the click-reviewers-tools looks at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/api/click-framework/ as pmcgowan suggested
[16:16] <sil2100> popey: yeah, and the API does have 15.04.3
[16:16] <bfiller> popey: seems it's there.. so should be working?
[16:16] <sil2100> So not sure what's happening
[16:16] <bfiller> popey: maybe cached?
[16:16] <popey> perhaps
[16:17] <popey> yup! ./.cache/click-reviewers-tools/frameworks.json
[16:17] <popey> deleted that file, great success!
[16:17] <popey> approved bfiller !
[16:18]  * popey mutters about caching a 1.5KB file
[16:19] <pmcgowan> popey, yeah but then it can work offline, maybe needs a tweak to the logic
[16:21] <popey> I guess I just used it during the sweet spot between a new one landing in the store and the cache expiring, no worries, learn something new :)
[16:26] <morphis> cyphermox: isn't that what adding ~overlay1 allows us?
[16:26] <cyphermox> morphis: not quite, right now you're lower than any new version
[16:27] <cyphermox> but you'd probably want to upgrade to the "official" xenial version even if it's not different if you were to upgrade from a system with the overlay enabled
[16:27] <cyphermox> so it's not exactly the same
[16:30] <morphis> sure, so right now I have 5.36-0ubuntu2~overlay1 and if I upgrade to xenial which has 5.36-0ubuntu2 then I would get the xenial one, right?
[16:32] <cyphermox> yes
[16:33] <cyphermox> oh wait
[16:33] <cyphermox> right, except xenial doesn't currently have 5.36-0ubuntu2
[16:37] <anpok> trainguards: please copy libinput from silo 56 to silo 21
[16:38] <sil2100> anpok: on it!
[16:38] <anpok> thx
[16:39] <sil2100> anpok: does it need a rebuild?
[16:39] <sil2100> anpok: or do you want the binaries to be copied as well?
[16:40] <anpok> either way is fine, the binaries used to fine though
[19:12] <robru> boiko: you can FORCE_REBUILD to get around that
[19:14] <boiko> robru: well, the silo merged already, so all fine, thanks :)
[19:15] <robru> Yw
[21:30] <veebers> robru: Hi, you around?
[21:36] <robru> veebers: hey what's up?
[21:38] <veebers> robru: query, I'm pushing something to autopilot trunk to fix those issues, for my silo is it just a mater of rebuilding once those changes are there (then testing etc.)
[21:44] <robru> veebers: sorry I didn't really understand. if you push commits to trunk you'll need to rebuild the silo, yes.
[21:46] <veebers> robru: ok cool, makes sense. I'll probably bother you with a couple other questions once it's finally merged
[21:46] <robru> veebers: ok I'm off sick today, please email unless it's urgent
[21:48] <veebers> robru: ack will do. Get well soon!
[21:48] <robru> thanks