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[16:04] <vorlon> rolling back haskell-gi-gobject
[16:15] <vorlon> irony is: a package called haskell-byte-order failing to be portable to big-endian architectures
[16:18] <vorlon> rolling back haskell-gi-atk
[16:19] <vorlon> rolling back haskell-gi-dbusmenu
[16:27] <vorlon> rolling back haskell-gi-gio, haskell-gi-pango
[22:36] <mwhudson> good morning
[22:49] <Ukikie> ....Vietnam?
[23:15] <vorlon> rolling back haskell-quickcheck, because breaks pandoc which is kinda important :P
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[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: intellij-community-idea [amd64] (groovy-proposed/none) [183.5153.4-1] (no packageset)
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[23:51] <vorlon> ugh.  old version of haskell-quickcheck is incompatible with current ghc, so... reverting that
[23:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted x265 [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [3.4-2]
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[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted git-repo-updater [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.5.1-1]
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[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lomiri-app-launch [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.0.90-1]
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[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-bifurcation-mint [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.0~git20200214.93c820e-1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mystiq [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [20.03.23-1]
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[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libdistlib-java [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.9.1+dfsg-1]
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[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-commentjson [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.8.3-1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: hcxtools [arm64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [6.0.2-1] (no packageset)
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-fluffle-goirc [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.0.3+ds-1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-yvasiyarov-newrelic-platform-go [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.0~git20160601.9c099fb-1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hslua-module-system [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[23:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hslua-module-system [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
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[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-robfig-go-cache [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.0.0+git20130306.9fc39e0-1]
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hslua-module-system [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
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[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: new-session-manager (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
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[00:11] <RaamizH> I'm trying to build a port for a new device, I'm installing all the things I require. when I enter the command <phablet-dev-bootstrap phablet> I get this error <ERROR:phablet-dev-bootstrap:/home/USERNAME/phablet is not empty and not using -c> Can anyone offer any help?
[00:24] <RaamizH> I managed to fix it, hopefully
[09:36] <Blekpug> What is already installed as an address book ?
[10:30] <SebVillemot> Hi. Since OTA-8, the dialer-app GUI freezes after I dial a number (I have to minimize then maximize it to hang up). Not fixed in OTA-8.5. Any idea?
[10:35] <JanC> minimize?
[10:35] <JanC> also, I haven't seen that on my bq 4.5
[10:36] <SebVillemot> by minimize I mean wiping to the top
[10:36] <SebVillemot> the the top bar becomes green and I can reopen the app
[10:36] <SebVillemot> and I have a BQ 4.5
[10:37] <SebVillemot> so the call goes on, but it's a pain to hang up
[10:38] <SebVillemot> I can't find any bug report corresponding to this, but maybe am I searching at the wrong place
[10:38] <teve> I'd the same problem yesterday, E5 and rc201
[11:01] <SebVillemot> looks like I fixed it by deleting ~/.config/com.ubuntu.dialer-app/
[11:03] <onla> is it possible to install ubuntu on honor 4x
[11:03] <onla> would it support everything
[11:33] <popey> !devices | onla
[15:43] <RTE68> hey there
[15:44] <ALIBALI> CAN I INSTALL UBUNTU TOUCH ON SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 3
[15:45] <ALIBALI> ANY ONE HERE
[15:45] <RTE68> I'd like to be at ease about something. My Aquaris E5 (Ubuntu edition) is particularly slow, specially when starting up applications. Is this a weak hardware issue, or the OS development not being performance-focused yet? I'd be glad if it was the second, because this could be the perfect mobile OS and development target for me
[15:46] <RTE68> ALIBALI, I don't know sorry
[15:46] <ALIBALI> IS TEHER ANY  SITE WEB WERE I CAN SEARCH THE INFORMATIONS
[15:46] <k1l_> ALIBALI: i have not seen a working port. so you could start making one. but that is not a beginners task. its difficult
[15:46] <howefield_afk> !devices | ALIBALI
[15:51] <ALIBALI> UBOT5 THANKS DOES ANY DEVICE SAMSUNG GALAXY ?? COMPATIBLE WITH TAB 3
[15:51] <RTE68> Could someone tell me about the performance situation of Ubuntu Touch? Is this a problem that's not being tackled yet, or the E5 hardware at fault? The camera takes several seconds to boot, for instance. I find this not ideal.
[15:52] <RTE68> Also, is there a place where developers from outside the community can contribute to sorting out bugs and stuff?
[15:52] <ALIBALI> I KNOW DON'T WORRY , IF YOU ARE HERE FOR LEARNING NEW THINGS AS ME :-)
[16:13] <howefield_afk> RTE68: have you been to this page ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[16:22] <RTE68> howefield_afk, I hadn't thanks
[16:24] <RTE68> However, why is performance so bad across the board? From input lag and scroll stuttering to application boot times (6 to 7 seconds to get the camera working, or more than 4 seconds to get the contacts list to show up, for instance). Where is the bottleneck?
[16:26] <RTE68> Surely if Java-based Android can manage comfortable reponse times, this is something that hasn't still been considered a priority on this C++ based platform, right?
[16:31] <howefield_afk> well I am simply a user, and as far as I am concerned the software is still young and has been been continually improved and will contiue to be so. How many developers do you think work on Android ? I don't know the answer to that but I'd guess it is orders of magnitude more than work on Ubuntu Touch, so if you are here to help, I'm sure you will be welcomed with open arms. :)
[16:37] <RTE68> howefield, yeah, the ecosystem is stil really young
[16:37] <howefield> it is, and of course the hardware itself is adequate but far from stellar.
[17:21] <dobey> ugh caps lock
[18:52] <Mdm_> any dev there
[18:53] <Mdm_> can't able to complete sources Completed 50 Gb Downloads but it still Stuck at 93%
[18:54] <Mdm_> :(
[19:55] <Clubuntu> ciao a tuttiù
[19:56] <Clubuntu> qualcuno ha provato a collegare il meizu mx4 al televisore
[20:00] <Clubuntu> o ad un monitor esterno
[20:13] <k1l_> Clubuntu: you might have better chances in english in this channel
[20:15] <Clubuntu> someone has tried to connect to the TV meizu MX4 or to an external monitor
[20:16] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: what kind of connection would you use for that?
[20:24] <Clubuntu> MicroUsb - HDMI
[20:24] <Clubuntu> you want me to load a picture?
[20:27] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: no, it's ok, i did not realize they existed
[20:28] <Clubuntu> It exists but does not work
[20:30] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: i think there is software support required
[20:30] <Clubuntu> I also tried to usb scart
[20:31] <Clubuntu> What can I try
[20:31] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: does that cable work with other devices to connect to the tv?
[20:32] <vandenoever> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#Standard_Micro-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_.28five-pin.29
[20:33] <vandenoever> screen and device must support MHL
[20:33] <Clubuntu> a friend of mine he said he tried to connect his note 3 and it works
[20:34] <Clubuntu> the meizu MX4 ubuntu supports mhl?
[20:34] <vandenoever> no: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/meizu-mx5-2749-vs-meizu-mx4-ubuntu-edition-2737
[20:35] <howefield> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16675.html
[20:36] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: i think there are not many phones that support mhl
[20:38] <Clubuntu> ma con l'aggiornamento ota 8 era previsto il supporto a monitor esterni
[20:39] <Clubuntu> but with the update ota 8 was expected to support external monitors
[20:43] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: but not on meize, which misses hardware for mhl
[20:43] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: i guess some chipset support is needed
[20:46] <Clubuntu> then with meizu you will not be convergence?
[20:48] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16147.html
[20:48] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: it's not clear if the required chip is present
[20:48] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: was you friends Note 3 running ubuntu touch?
[20:49] <Clubuntu> No Android
[20:53] <vandenoever> widi is not widespread either, popular site lists 6 tvs with widi out of  1015
[20:55] <Clubuntu> so you can still connect to any monitor
[20:55] <vandenoever> Clubuntu: there is a branch for adding miracast support: https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/ubuntu-system-settings/miracast-support
[20:56] <k1l_> does the meizu support mhl/hdmi connect at all?
[20:56] <k1l_> i thought no bq nor meizu supports that. only the nexus4
[20:58] <Clubuntu> we hope we can do sooner or later
[20:59] <k1l_> imho the hardware doesnt support it.
[20:59] <vandenoever> k1l_: howefield pasted a link that says as much indeed
[20:59] <vandenoever> k1l_: does confluence work on nexus 4?
[21:00] <k1l_> convergence? yes, the nexus4 is the development device so far. but i dont have the proper cables yet.
[21:02] <Clubuntu> thanks a lot
[21:10] <Walex2> I quite like Touch, but it is a bit incomplete yet: on my Acquaris GPS worked only briefly a few updates ago...
[21:23] <kowak> i tried to switch /hardware/qcom/display and media to display-caf-new media-caf-new but i got a blank display on device anyone know about this issue?
[23:18] <hester> exit
[23:18] <hester> whoops, sorry


[08:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[14:24] <Guyag> Somehow, my ubuntu server seems to have stopped accepting my key for authentication, despite me having no recollection of amending my authorized_keys file. Is there any way to check what the server sends as a challenge (i.e. can I check what public key it has on record for me?)
[14:25] <lordievader> Guyag: Start ssh with the -v flag.
[14:38] <rbasak> Guyag: I think it works the other way round. The client sends what it has, and the server says whether it is acceptable.
[14:39] <Guyag> Mhmm, that's what it seems like rbasak
[14:40] <lordievader> Hence the ssh -v, then you can see what is actually goin on.
[14:42] <Guyag> debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
[14:42] <Guyag> that'll do it
[14:56] <lordievader> Guyag: Could you pastebin the full output?
[14:59] <dine909> how can i get a gpg-agent to run on a server, with no grpahical or user input?
[14:59] <dine909> so i can script git-buildpackage with no intervention
[15:11] <Joe_Spencer_> hi
[15:12] <lordievader> o/
[15:13] <Joe_Spencer_> i need help with isc-dhcp-server i can start and stop but system recognise its down
[15:13] <Joe_Spencer_> its a fresh install with 14.10
[15:13] <Joe_Spencer_> with 14.04 there were no problem
[15:13] <Joe_Spencer_> then i cannot start stop from webmin
[15:13] <Joe_Spencer_> can somebody help?
[15:15] <dine909> try: sudo cat /var/log/upstart/isc-dhcp-server.log
[15:16] <dine909> or
[15:16] <dine909> tail /var/log/syslog
[15:16] <lordievader> !webmin | Joe_Spencer_
[15:16] <dine909> also, look at using dnsmasq instead
[15:17] <dine909> instead of isc-dhcp-server
[15:22] <Joe_Spencer_> so i misconfigured first from webmin, but now its corrected
[15:22] <Joe_Spencer_> here is my configuration
[15:23] <Joe_Spencer_> http://pastebin.com/D6WUxb0f
[15:24] <Joe_Spencer_> and the log error code is
[15:24] <Joe_Spencer_> http://pastebin.com/rWNQT6Sw
[15:26] <Joe_Spencer_> then system alive writes service down, but dhcp server alive and giving ip adress, and webmin see dhcp server not running
[15:26] <Joe_Spencer_> so i try to start
[15:27] <Joe_Spencer_> then it writes: start: Job is already running: isc-dhcp-server. is it a webmin bug?
[15:27] <lordievader> Joe_Spencer_: Did you see the webmin factiod? This is probably one of its quirks.
[15:28] <Joe_Spencer_> now i can say, dhcp server works well, and every pc gets his ip :)
[15:33] <Joe_Spencer_> now i trying to find the bug
[15:34] <lordievader> Joe_Spencer_: Read the factoid...
[15:34] <lordievader> !webmin | Joe_Spencer_
[15:35] <Joe_Spencer_> wow and do you know ehy not?
[15:36] <Joe_Spencer_> why
[15:38] <lordievader> Joe_Spencer_: Says so in the factiod. Furthermore I have no experience with Webmin.
[15:49] <cfhowlett> webmin has been downvoted for about 2 years now iirc
[15:50] <lordievader> It ain't in the repo's either.


[04:21] <philipballew> hardware question: where would you guys recommend getting a new Internet modem? i'm fine with buying used. just need to make sure it works
[04:25] <sn9> define "internet modem"
[04:26] <sn9> a modem is nominally a device for dial-up
[04:27] <philipballew> dsl modem
[04:27] <philipballew> phone line in. cet5 out
[04:27] <sn9> garage sales and craigslist, as well as dumpsters
[04:27] <sn9> oh, wait, you said "new"
[04:27] <philipballew> haha. but would all dsl modems work with att?
[04:28] <sn9> no
[04:28] <philipballew> no. i prefer used
[04:28] <sn9> most would
[04:28] <philipballew> yeah. most should
[04:28] <sn9> relatively few exceptions
[04:28] <philipballew> how so?
[04:28] <sn9> but i'd recommend against at&t
[04:30] <philipballew> i dont like it either. but its that or satellite here. what do you dislike about them?
[04:30] <sn9> satellite is not worth it
[04:30] <sn9> but i'd STILL recommend against at&t
[04:31] <sn9> how is it possible for there to be fewer choices in roseville than in sac?
[04:31] <philipballew> its auburn. and the other choises dont go our way of town here
[04:32] <sn9> hmm. lemme try a prequal
[04:33] <philipballew> alright!
[04:33] <philipballew> its been several years since we looked at other options
[04:34] <sn9> should i check by phone# or address?
[04:35] <philipballew><PHONE_NUMBER>
[04:35] <akk> There's no rhyme or reason to where there are broadband choices.
[04:35] <philipballew> akk very true
[04:35] <akk> I'm a short bike ride from downtown SJ, and we have hardly any choices.
[04:35] <akk> I knew people who lived up on Skyline and had broadband 2 years before we could get it.
[04:37] <philipballew> heres my choice http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-Westell-DSL-Modem-/140566772438?pt=PCC_Modems&hash=item20ba6ebad6#ht_500wt_1156
[04:37] <sn9> it says you already have dsl
[04:37] <philipballew> i do have dsl
[04:37] <philipballew> and its att dsl
[04:37] <philipballew> i just need a new modem
[04:37] <sn9> then you can have any isp you want
[04:38] <sn9> just file a change of isp form
[04:38] <philipballew> hum. ill have to look into this
[04:39] <sn9> what are you putting behind the dsl modem, btw?
[04:39] <philipballew> a firewall and router connected to a desktop and a desktop server
[04:40] <sn9> so you have 3 separate boxes? firewall, router, modem? you know you can use just one as all 3 if it runs linux, right?
[04:41] <philipballew> yeah. i have the server and firewall on the same box but i want my own desktop as i would prefer my server/firewall to be more stable then my computer habbits  make things
[04:42] <philipballew> so i have 2 boxes
[04:43] <sn9> server/firewall, router, modem is 3
[04:43] <sn9> unless the server is also the router
[04:46] <philipballew> well the modem and router are not was i thought you ment by boxes
[04:47] <sn9> why are the router and firewall separate?
[04:49] <philipballew> i have a firewall on the router. biut i have a firewall with my server
[04:49] <philipballew> i gtg!
[20:28] <philipballew> ifa laptop wont boot from usb and has no internal cd drive. what would you say is a good way to install a linux bassed system?
[20:34] <MarkDude> put it in another system, and install Puppy Linux
[20:34] <MarkDude> wait for reboot after installing- take it out, put it in system
[20:35] <philipballew> hum. makes scene. would it pull all the drivers then on reboot in the new system?
[20:36] <MarkDude> yes
[20:36] <MarkDude> taht is how Puppy works
[20:36] <MarkDude> I have seen it done with Ubuntu, Fedora, it depends on the video card - if it will let you do it
[20:37] <pleia2> yeah, I've done it with Ubuntu, it's pretty clever if you don't have complicated hardware
[20:37] <pleia2> (one of the good things about non-static xorg.conf)
[20:43] <MarkDude> the main thing with it is removing video drivers if there is an issue, although it will let you go to a failsafe mode


[03:22] <Rockwood> https://gist.github.com/Cyberiaaxis/14bf86f069cc6898b820bd7eae0740ec i am unable to upgrade node versio
[03:23] <Rockwood> any active?
[03:27] <yukiup> i'm alive
[03:32] <yukiup> Johnny Five is alive
[03:32] <Rockwood> yeah but late
[03:32] <Rockwood> i deleted my npm and node too
[03:32] <Rockwood> bcz i was unable upgrade that why stuck
[03:33] <Rockwood> now i am upgrading OS first
[03:37] <yukiup> good
[03:54] <Rockwood> now upgraded
[03:54] <Rockwood> now time to install node and npm
[03:55] <Rockwood> yukiup, what should be next step
[03:56] <yukiup> dist-upgrade
[03:56] <Rockwood> okay
[03:59] <Rockwood> yukiup, https://gist.github.com/Cyberiaaxis/14bf86f069cc6898b820bd7eae0740ec
[04:01] <Rockwood> should i do autoremove thing?
[04:02] <yukiup> don't normally see that many, i would double check with someone else
[04:02] <Rockwood> i have done
[04:02] <yukiup> ok, good luck
[04:02] <Rockwood> you replied bit lately
[04:02] <Rockwood> i don't have much time to wait
[04:02] <Rockwood> i have goo office soon
[04:03] <Rockwood> have to go
[04:03] <Rockwood> that why i am in hurry
[04:04] <Rockwood> yukiup, autoremove done
[04:04] <Rockwood> what should be next?
[04:04] <Rockwood> yukiup, ^^
[04:05] <yukiup> run the dis-upgrade one more time
[04:05] <yukiup> then reboot
[04:05] <yukiup> then try your nom thing
[04:05] <Rockwood> okay
[04:06] <Rockwood> https://gist.github.com/Cyberiaaxis/14bf86f069cc6898b820bd7eae0740ec yukiup
[04:09] <Rockwood> yukiup, rebooted too now
[04:10] <Rockwood> now i wanna upgrade my NPM + Node
[04:10] <yukiup> i guess there is also full-upgrade... whatever
[04:12] <Rockwood> yukiup, https://gist.github.com/Cyberiaaxis/6a11bd606e530a95d85d38945746e2c4
[04:13] <Rockwood> i am unable to install npm manager
[04:13] <yukiup> maybe look for a ppa
[04:14] <Rockwood> npm ERR! notsup Required: {"node":"^12.13.0 || ^14.15.0 || >=16"}
[04:14] <Rockwood> npm ERR! notsup Actual:   {"npm":"8.3.0","node":"v15.14.0"}
[04:15] <yukiup> https://snapcraft.io/node
[04:16] <yukiup> that looks the way to do it to me, but i haven't played with snaps yet
[04:32] <kenwoodfox> Heyo! Is there a way i could setup a sorta simple video playlist with ubuntu frame without compiling my own snap for it?
[04:33] <kenwoodfox> im just not so confident making snaps yet and it would be nice if something like mir-web existed but, for running video files?
[04:36] <MrMobius> hi, i installed ubuntu on my laptop that already had windows and i can choose between the two with grub at start up. id like to totally remove ubuntu since i now have a separate ubuntu machine. i set the BIOS to now use the windows bootloader instead of grub
[04:37] <MrMobius> do i need to do anything to get rid of grub before i reformat the partition ubuntu is on?
[04:47] <yukiup> well grub is separate from the partition
[04:47] <yukiup> you would reformat the drive to get ride of grub
[04:47] <yukiup> look up a guide
[05:00] <MrMobius> ya guides all seem to be showing what to do if you uninstall ubuntu with grub still enabled
[05:53] <quidnun> I've got a new 4TB drive, I'm trying to partition it with gparted as gpt, but it's showing up at 1.8TB. What am I doing wrong?
[05:54] <quidnun> Sorry, 1.65TB
[06:04] <yukiup> are you wiping the disk and then formatting?
[06:04] <yukiup> if that makes sense
[06:14] <quidnun> yukiup: After some research I suspect the problem is my old USB enclosure can't report drive size above some value (~2TiB)
[06:14] <quidnun> yukiup: (It's a new disk so it's already blank)
[06:15] <shadow255> quidnun: are you switching the unit size to TB in parted before trying to create partition?
[06:16] <quidnun> shadow255: Yeah I tried that. Like I said I think the problem is a shitty USB enclosure
[06:16] <shadow255> quidnun: seems plausible too
[06:17] <shadow255> quidnun: any possibility to connect without using the enclosure?
[08:48] <morganu> 20.04 is there a way I can access my computer's files over the internet?
[08:48] <gry> morganu: yes, sftp
[08:48] <gry> morganu: requires running ssh server on the host, and a working sftp client on the guest
[08:48] <gry> morganu: sorry
[08:49] <gry> morganu: requires running ssh server on the server, and a working sftp client on the client
[08:49] <morganu> does it have to be a server.. oic ... can I do that with a desktop ubuntu and not a server ubuntu? Is that a reason to make my next ubuntu installation a server?
[08:50] <KBar> It doesn't have to be a server per se.
[08:50] <morganu> why did you say sorry gry?
[08:50] <gry> morganu: server can be desktop ubuntu, that's fine
[08:50] <KBar> ^
[08:50] <gry> morganu: it was incorrect to call them 'host' and 'guest'; 'server' and 'client' are correct
[08:50] <morganu> tell me what to read to begin to learn if you can
[08:50] <morganu> master and slave
[08:50] <KBar> there are two packages: openssh-client and openssh-server
[08:50] <nicoz-> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-openssh
[08:51] <morganu> I am old, lol
[08:51] <nicoz-> for more information
[08:51] <gry> morganu: so i was apologizing for my mistake
[08:52] <morganu> i dint understand no worries. I copied kbar and nicoz- lines and will wirk on that this week
[08:52] <nicoz-> you need to understand the subject first, it depends on your safety
[08:52] <KBar> morganu: I'd also suggest reading the Linux Command line book by William Shotts
[08:52] <nicoz-> ;)
[08:53] <morganu> ok I have so much to learn.
[08:53] <KBar> morganu: especially chapter 16. Networking.
[08:53] <KBar> We all do.
[08:53] <nicoz-> morganu it is not very difficult to quiet
[08:53] <morganu> ???
[08:54] <KBar> morganu: https://webwerks.dl.sourceforge.net/project/linuxcommand/TLCL/19.01/TLCL-19.01.pdf
[08:54] <morganu> nicoz-, to quiet ?
[08:54] <KBar> morganu: great introduction to the Linux command line for beginners.
[08:54] <nicoz-> i'm sorry i was wrong
[08:55] <nicoz-> I wanted to tell you that the subject is not difficult
[08:55] <morganu> np.  I will say this https://freecomputerbooks.com/The-Linux-Command-Line.html
[09:00] <farkaan> I'm getting this strange sort of transparent box in Ubuntu Budgie: https://i.postimg.cc/wvxZP5mK/Screenshot-from-2021-12-11-14-28-30.png
[09:00] <farkaan> Anyone know what this glitch is called?
[09:02] <farkaan> It runs along the entire length of the sidebar: https://i.postimg.cc/MZV3Dr4c/Screenshot-from-2021-12-11-14-31-17.png
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> farkaan: try create a new user and see if you can reproduce that
[09:08] <farkaan> lotuspsychje: Alright
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> farkaan: can you make it happen?
[09:26] <farkaan> lotuspsychje It was a materia-gtk-theme bug, I'm configuring reportbug right now
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> farkaan: doublecheck the existing ones first please; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[09:27] <Unit193> reportbug is for Debian, ubuntu-bug is the Ubuntu one.
[09:27] <farkaan> Oh okay
[09:29] <farkaan> Materia GitHub says that downstream desktop sessions are unsupported, I won't file the bug I think it's better to use another theme
[09:29] <farkaan> Budgie is in this weird spot where it's GNOME and not GNOME at the same time (with their own wm/compositor), I guess that's what happens when you use niche stuff
[10:38] <jmd> How can I create a user with no password?
[10:41] <lousiF> liveusb
[10:42] <Maik> jmd: what does google say? ;)
[10:43] <KBar> jmd: check out this question on AskUbuntu: https://askubuntu.com/questions/281074/can-i-set-my-user-account-to-have-no-password
[10:45] <Aarch64debian> hello how do you emulate if a cd/iso is bootable
[10:46] <jmd> KBar: Yeah.  It tells me how to create a user without a password.  But it seems that there's some higher level of security that stops such users logging in.
[10:48] <KBar> jmd: well, pressing Enter wherever there is a prompt should let the user login. At least, that's the case during a Live session.
[10:49] <KBar> Sudo will complain though. That's why the answer explains that you also need to edit the sudoers file
[10:50] <jmd> No I always get "Permission denied, please try again."
[10:51] <jmd> I'm not worried about sudo
[10:53] <KBar> jmd: what exactly do you want to achieve?
[10:53] <KBar> Autologin?
[10:54] <jmd> Not exactly.  more like non-interactive login
[10:55] <KBar> jmd: add your user to the group `nopasswdlogin`
[10:56] <jmd> There is no such group
[10:56] <KBar> jmd: create it. https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/02/enable-passwordless-login-ubuntu-18-04/
[10:56] <jmd> Let me add it and see what happens
[10:57] <KBar> you're gonna have to edit the PAM configs
[10:58] <KBar> jmd: you can also just turn the autologin option on...
[10:59] <jmd> KBar: How do I do that?
[11:00] <KBar> jdm, Settings > user accounts or something similar depending on what DE you're running.
[11:00] <Maik> auto login can be set in system settings --> users
[11:00] <jmd> I don't do DEs
[11:00] <KBar> jmd: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/user-autologin.html.en
[11:01] <KBar> literally the first result
[11:01] <Maik> KBar: he has no DE
[11:01] <Maik> jmd: next time please tell earlier you don't use DE's
[11:02] <KBar> jmd: https://people.gnome.org/~pmkovar/system-admin-guide/automatic-login.html
[11:03] <KBar> jmd: does the file /etc/gdm/custom.conf exist?
[11:03] <jmd> KBar: no
[11:05] <KBar> jmd: create it...
[11:05] <KBar> and add those lines
[11:05] <jmd> I really don't think that is going to make any difference but I will do as you say.
[11:06] <jmd> gdm is a DE thing isn't it?
[11:07] <jmd> No.  That made no difference.
[11:07] <KBar> jmd: I'm confused. Is that Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server?
[11:08] <Maik> gdm = Gnome Display Manager
[11:08] <Maik> KBar: as said he doesn't use a DE so it must be a server then
[11:08] <jmd> It's a server
[11:09] <jmd> (and before anyone starts lecturing about security, it's disconnected from the world)
[11:09] <KBar> jmd: why wouldn't you tell it from the very beginning…
[11:10] <jmd> I thought the question was very clear and concise.
[11:10] <jmd> Why does server/desktop DE/no DE make any difference?
[11:11] <Maik> jmd: most people suspect you are using Ubuntu Desktop
[11:11] <KBar> jmd: `How can I create a user with no password?` is not clear at all. As you saw, there are tons of methods if you have GUI installed.
[11:11] <Maik> since you didn't mention any of that info it went sideways
[11:11] <KBar> Don't just assume people possess telepathic abilities.
[11:11]  * Maik doesn't have a crystal ball
[11:11] <KBar> jmd: try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/getty#Automatic_login_to_virtual_console
 Why does server/desktop DE/no DE make any difference? --- it does in how to provide support...
[11:14] <jmd> Well seeing as you are wanting the minutae of detail.  I am loging in over ssh and not a virtual console.  But so as not to confuse people let us just assume that I want a method that will work for all methods of loging in: ssh/console/getty/gdm ....
[11:14] <akik> jmd: "sudo passwd -d username" removes the password
[11:15] <jmd> akik: Yes.  I have done that.
[11:15] <jmd> But as I said earlier, it seems that there is some global security setting which prevents such users logging in.
[11:28] <akik> jmd: oh sorry i tested that on fedora, not ubuntu
[11:33] <Guest22> Hi all, trying to determine if my system is vulnerable for this log4 exploit. is there a way to test this? or know specifically if I am vulnerable?
[11:38] <tomreyn> Guest22: since this is very recent information, the Ubuntu security team has not yet triaged how this vulnerability affects packages in Ubuntu (other than taking initial notes): https://ubuntu.com/security/cve-2021-44228
[11:39] <tomreyn> Guest22: i would therefore suggest referring to the reporting parties' and upstream's (apache project) documentation on this vulnerability for now.
[11:41] <tomreyn> upstream's advisory is located at https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/security.html#Fixed_in_Log4j_2.15.0
[11:43] <tomreyn> https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/2021/12/10/widespread-exploitation-of-critical-remote-code-execution-in-apache-log4j/ seems to provide a good summary of your options
[11:49] <Guest22> looks like im using an old vversion of log4, 1.2 from what I can see, does this mean I have been "ok" thus far? I will of course look to upgrade these to the latest version now
[11:49] <Guest22> but wondering if I have been exposed so far?
[11:50] <Guest22> from the link it suggests only the 2.X and above were at risk
[12:55] <Aarch64debian> what is a lighter and stable desktop after xfce
[12:56] <tomreyn> is this an ubuntu support question?
[12:56] <tomreyn> !flavors
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:07] <Sbazzeguti> hello can someone help me : ubuntu 20.04 NAs into LAN , I can't reach the NAS .. Itried a "ping IP_NAS" and is ok .. but if I hit windows LAN in the file manager the folder seems empty, if I type " smb://IpaddressNAS open window  asking me for password but NAS isnt' protectedwith the previous OS ( mint) I use reach the NAS only clink the icon inthe file manager
[16:25] <MarcUK> Hi all how do you remove icons that are unwanted for the applications menu
[16:29] <Photonux> @MarcUK: Just right click in the icon in the menu and then remove from favorites ;-)
[16:31] <MarcUK> it just says add to fav and new window no remove
[16:32] <Photonux> Running the daily build now (22.04). So far, so good... :-)
[16:34] <Photonux> @MarkUK: Mmm, that´s odd. I assume you´re running the Gnome version?
[16:36] <Photonux> I´m running the dutch translated version. But something like ´remove from favorites´ should be presented...
[16:38] <Photonux> You only have to hover above the icon (application) and then right click it...
[16:40] <MarcUK> 5.11.0-41-generic #45~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 10 10:20:10 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:41] <MarcUK> it says new window or add to fav you canoot remove it
[16:41] <MarcUK> cannot
[16:43] <MarcUK> and it looks like its Gnome yes
[16:44] <Photonux> I assumed you ment the apps in the menubar on the left of the screen :-)
[16:45] <MarcUK> Show applications
[16:45] <Photonux> *meant*
[16:47] <Photonux> You could use the ´Ubuntu software´ app or remove apps within the terminal.
[16:48] <MarcUK> no wine put the icons in this menu
[16:49] <MarcUK> This is why linux isnt for the masses simple thing like deleting an icon cant be done with a right click
[16:53] <Photonux> I think that´s a bit short sighted. There is no perfect OS. There is always a way to achieve it ;-)
[16:58] <Photonux> @MarkUK: Also refer to : https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-remove.html.en
[17:10] <tiny_user> hu
[17:12] <Photonux> @MarkUK: wine related: https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wine-uninstall-apps.html
[17:23] <jhutchins> MarcUK: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[17:26] <Photonux> ^
[17:28] <XoloX> I got this windows tablet / laptop. (HP x2 210). To my surprise I could just get into the BIOS from this Atom device! Installing KDE Neon right now. It seems to work fine from the live USB. Only thing that's not working is auto rotate. Looked trough all the settings but can't find a thing! Under Windows it was rotating the screen depending on the
[17:28] <XoloX> way you hold it. Is this possible under KDE?
[17:31] <Photonux> @MarkUK: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1143/how-can-i-uninstall-software
[17:43] <maxzor_> hello, I  wanted opencl, so tried to install amdgpu pro drivers. Fails during dkms. Now I am talking to you via a TUI IRC client because I'm left with a tty after reboot :D. Can anyone help?
[17:43] <jhutchins> XoloX: I've never heard of an auto-rotate function. You'd have to have a driver that would interpret the output of the orientation sensor, then call sommething to process that as input for screen rotation, maybe through xrandr.
[17:44] <jhutchins> XoloX: It should be possible, there are several projects focused on tablet linux, but you'll probably have to look outside of ubuntu.
[17:48] <krisstern> maxzor_: Can you tell us more about what you are seeing onscreen now?
[17:49] <maxzor> krisstern, I am in a tty session
[17:49] <maxzor> well talking here with "maxzor_" from workstation tty, and "maxzor" from laptop GUI --"
[17:50] <krisstern> I see
[17:51] <maxzor> here is the lspci http://ix.io/3HIT
[17:52] <maxzor> I tried installing drivers from the amd website. Running ubuntu 20.04 LTS, with a RadeonVII GPU
[17:53] <maxzor> got this log from the amd install script http://ix.io/3HIV
[17:54] <krisstern> Have you tried cleaning up after the failed install?
[17:55] <maxzor_> yes, in a few ways
[17:56] <krisstern> I see you have this in your error log: "Local GCC version 90303 does not match kernel compiler GCC version 90201"
[17:56] <maxzor_> i ran the /usr/bin/amdgpu-pro-uninstall
[17:56] <maxzor_> yes I saw that
[17:57] <maxzor_> could it really be the problem, a "minor minor" revision in semver?
[17:57] <krisstern> Have you tried updating local gcc version as well?
[17:57] <maxzor_> gcc --version
[17:57]  * maxzor_ hums
[17:58] <maxzor_> not as far as I know
[17:59] <krisstern> You better change that first before trying to reinstall the driver again, you will need your gpu drivers
[17:59] <maxzor_> what do you mean?
[18:00] <maxzor_> I thought that given the errors in the log - arguments count being wrong in c functions... - the problem had to come from a mismatch between kernel and proprietary driver version
[18:01] <krisstern> Yeah, think so
[18:02] <maxzor_> what can I do? contact AMD to tell them their latest driver is not working with kernel 5.5? Reinstall amdgpu (non pro)?
[18:02] <krisstern> BTW, how did you install the amdgpu drivers the first time?
[18:02] <krisstern> I think the gcc version should be simpler to fix
[18:03] <maxzor_> I don't thing I have touched my linux drivers ever before this day
[18:03] <maxzor_> was not needing anything that amdgpu was not offering
[18:06] <krisstern> Maybe you can try this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[18:08] <krisstern> More here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/36250528/9959070
[18:08] <maxzor_> "cannot find package" :/
[18:10] <krisstern> What do you see if you do uname -r?
[18:11] <maxzor_> 5.5.0-rc1+
[18:12] <krisstern> What if you do "apt search linux-headers-$(uname -r)"?
[18:13] <krisstern> See anything useful?
[18:13] <maxzor_> when I run apt autoremove, it tries to reinstall the kernel module right away, which fails again...
[18:14] <krisstern> How about "apt --fix-broken"?
[18:14] <maxzor_> nothing
[18:14] <krisstern> You may need sudo for that
[18:14] <maxzor_> for the headers
[18:14] <maxzor_> y
[18:16] <maxzor_> I seem stuck in a loop, every --fix-broken, autoremove... removes the kernel module, but tries to build it back right away, and fails again...
[18:17] <krisstern> I see... Just do fix-broken first but no autoremove
[18:17] <krisstern> Did you remember to do apt update as well?
[18:18] <maxzor_> apt install --fix-broken equals to the same outcome
[18:18] <maxzor_> yes I updated
[18:19] <krisstern> I think you will need to fix your compiler-gcc mismatch issue first...
[18:20] <maxzor_> can I downgrade easily with apt?
[18:22] <krisstern> With the right linux headers, yes...
[18:23] <maxzor> Is it normal that I have a release candidate kernel? oO
[18:23] <krisstern> Not really
[18:24] <krisstern> Like the one I am using is 5.4.0-80-generic...
[18:25] <krisstern> Have you ever tried to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" or something similar?
[18:26] <maxzor> yes i did
[18:26] <maxzor> (and it failed)
[18:27] <maxzor> some days ago
[18:27] <krisstern> Oh, do you know why?
[18:27] <maxzor> I don't remember exactly, but do_release_upgrade rolled back
[18:28] <maxzor> (do you know that you can just say apt instead of apt-get?)
[18:29] <krisstern> Yup, I do
[18:30] <krisstern> Do you still remember where you got your image?
[18:30] <Photonux> I use the 5.13.0-19-generic kernel in the daily build of Ubuntu (22.04). Sudo apt update will do. You can leave ´get´ away ;-)
[18:30] <krisstern> Yeah, I like apt-get more for some funny reason...
[18:30] <Photonux> sudo apt update for example in this case ;-)
[18:31] <krisstern> Sometimes I do use apt only
[18:31] <maxzor> I got my image from ubuntu a few years ago
[18:32] <krisstern> Unless you can get the headers from the same source as the image, it is harder to fix
[18:32] <maxzor> well, guess I am overdue for a clean system install
[18:33] <maxzor> thank you for your help
[18:33] <krisstern> Okay, all the best
[18:33] <maxzor> you too
[19:26] <maxzor_> krisstern! I just deleted all release candidate stuff in /boot/efi, update-grub2, rebooted, apt update && upgrade, rebooted, and here I am with my DE back :)
[19:26] <maxzor_> thanks again
[19:26] <krisstern> Cool!
[19:26] <maxzor_> now trying again to install those damned proprietary driveers
[19:27] <maxzor_> I have not matured enough my decision to try guix, so I chickened out on the fresh install :)
[19:27] <primejade> Hi, I'm on lubuntu 18.04.5, I was wondering is it possible to upgrade to the 20.04 and be able to still use this Desktop (LXDE) ?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> primejade: i think lubuntu 20.04 is lxqt now, might give issues to lts upgrade from bionic
[19:31] <krisstern> maxzor_: Guix surely looks cool though
[19:32] <maxzor_> Yes it does, but learning monads, scheme, a dsl, dropping systemd for shepherd... that's a lot at once
[19:32] <krisstern> Yeah, agreed
[19:32] <maxzor_> + installing manually realtek drivers, like my debian days
[19:33] <krisstern> Thumbs up
[19:33] <primejade> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> primejade: i would reccomend 20.04 lubuntu clean install, tested on a few boxes and its real solid
[19:36] <primejade> lotuspsychje: I will give it a shot, Thank you. I'm new to IRC btw XD
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome to the ubuntu community primejade
[19:38] <primejade> Thank you :)))
[19:42] <xu-irc8w> Can we install OVS ,KVM and lxc on implish release
[19:49] <tomreyn> xu-irc8w: i don't see why you could not do so.
[19:49] <tomreyn> are you asking for assistence with any of these?
[19:50] <xu-irc8w> KVM i manged to install but having errors in installing ovs
[21:22] <Apachez> is it me or is 21.10 buggy when it comes to multiple terminal windows in gnome? only last will show when clicking on the dash... in 21.04 I could see a thumbnail of each window and select which one I want to see
[21:22] <Apachez> ?
[21:47] <tomreyn> Apachez: they all show for me. do you have additional gnome-shell extensions installed?


[00:08] <bazhang> Please don't invite random teams to join   <----- odd mailing to myself as #xubuntu op; in reference to ubuntu-al
[00:09] <bazhang> err me
[00:47] <IdleOne> !membership > omega
[01:50] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo
[01:50] <Jordan_U> !no bootinfo is <reply> Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).
[05:15] <bazhang>  vibhav<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[05:15] <bazhang> ban evading again vibhav
[05:15] <vibhav> NO
[05:15] <vibhav> I have a dynamic IP
[05:15] <vibhav> Thats why
[05:15] <vibhav> I can prove it
[05:16] <bazhang> thats ban evading
[05:16] <vibhav> but it was not my fault
[05:16] <bazhang> sure it is.
[05:16] <rww> You know you're banned from #ubuntu. You go in #ubuntu anyway. This is bad.
[05:16] <vibhav> Everytime I open my computer , my ip is changed
[05:16] <vibhav> and Xchat always leads me to the Ubuntu Channel
[05:16] <bazhang> vibhav, your chances of being unbanned just went way down.
[05:16] <rww> Then tell it to stop.
[05:17] <vibhav> WHY?
[05:17] <bazhang> rww, you want to handle this, or me
[05:17] <vibhav> Ok I am deleting it from the favourite channels
[05:17] <rww> bazhang: if you're familiar with the history, I'll step back. I'm not.
[05:18] <bazhang> rww, sure, I can handle it
[05:18] <vibhav> vibhav, your chances of being unbanned just went way down Why?
[05:18] <vibhav> And BTW i was goin to offtopic
[05:18] <vibhav> So bazhang why have my chances went down?
[05:19] <vibhav> hey bazhang!
[05:20] <bazhang> vibhav, just a moment please.
[05:20] <vibhav> ok
[05:21] <vibhav> Ban is removed
[05:21] <IdleOne> not it isn't
[05:21] <vibhav> IdleOne removes ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>what does this mean then?
[05:22] <IdleOne> you were told not to return for 96 hours
[05:22] <IdleOne> Now I am wondering if I should just make it a full 30 days
[05:22] <IdleOne> but I am stepping back
[05:23] <vibhav> You removed the ban?
[05:23] <IdleOne> vibhav: bazhang is going to help you in a minute
[05:23] <bazhang> vibhav, please be patient.
[05:23] <vibhav> Ok
[05:24] <Flannel> vibhav: The ban removed was not your ban in #ubuntu, which is currently still there.
[05:24] <vibhav> which ban was removed then Flannel ?
[05:24] <Flannel> vibhav: You were banned in this channel for two minutes.  Prior to that, a ban on someone else was removed (again, in this channel).
[05:25] <Flannel> vibhav: I expect it'll be made clear in english that your #ubuntu banned is removed once it is.  You won't have to try to decypher anything.
[05:25] <vibhav> ok
[05:25] <vibhav> but atleast I can be on the offtopic community?
[05:27] <bazhang> vibhav, sure
[05:28] <bazhang> vibhav, your ban in #ubuntu will be the original 96 hours, provided you dont try to join #ubuntu in that time, nor your MOM using that IP address, etc
[05:28] <bazhang> vibhav, please come back here at that time, and we can then move forward.
[05:29] <vibhav> OK
[08:42] <Jordan_U> WoundedPhoenix in #ubuntu appears to be lying and giving edited (s/parted/fdisk/)output from parted rather than the requested output from fdisk. I have no idea why, and I'm hoping I'm just missing something but I can't explain the output any other way.
[08:43]  * Jordan_U is confused.
[08:46] <rww> I usually shrug and stop replying when that happens. Too many people, too little time.
[08:47] <Jordan_U> This has me intregued though. Either this person is lying about something really odd or something even more odd is happening on their system.
[09:05] <Jordan_U> I learned something new, there is a separate GNU fdisk based on libparted in universe that when installed superceeds util-linux's fdisk.
[09:08] <rww> !nickspam > squirming
[09:10] <rww> hell of an attitude on yagoo all evening, btw.
[09:10] <rww> I almost had words with them about accusing another user of trolling.
[09:27] <vibhav> I have a slight requesy
[09:27] <vibhav> *request*
[09:27] <Tm_T> yes?
[09:28] <vibhav> can my ban be shortened to 48 hours or 72 hours??
[09:28] <Tm_T> no
[09:28] <vibhav> please
[09:29] <Tm_T> we have asked you to stay away until given time, and you still fail to follow it
[09:29] <vibhav> ok
[09:29] <vibhav> Sorry
[11:48] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu yagoo being clueless and mildly annoying
[13:16] <ikonia> vibhav is not getting unbanned soon - he is clearly ot listning to what is being aid to him
[13:19] <Tm_T> ikonia: same in english?
[13:19] <ikonia> "not"
[13:19] <ikonia> "said"
[13:19] <Tm_T> makes sense now (:
[13:19] <ikonia> my keyboard is lagging due to a large repo sync]#
 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freenode+register
[13:46] <bazhang> !lmgtfy
[13:52] <LjL> bazhang: did you send that and !register to him or shall i?
[13:53] <bazhang> LjL, he presumably saw it the few times others got when asking about it.
[13:53] <bazhang> again, with his 'u' and 'ur' and 'cos' perhaps not
[13:59] <bazhang> Chris_H, hi
[13:59] <Chris_H> Hi, why am I banned in #ubuntu
[13:59] <bazhang> LjL, thanks for getting him to drop the "u"
[13:59] <Chris_H> or is it my username
[14:00] <LjL> let me look at it chris
[14:00] <Chris_H> ok
[14:00] <LjL> Chris_H: you've changed your nickname, that's why
[14:01] <LjL> Chris_H: unfortunately webchat clients have to be treated specially on #Ubuntu
[14:01] <LjL> Chris_H: so if you change nicknames, you need to part and rejoin
[14:01] <LjL> please try doing that
[14:01] <Chris_H> ok
[14:01] <Chris_H> thanks
[14:41] <bazhang> sug is jungli?
[14:42] <bazhang> seem to be from same IP
[14:43] <bazhang> ie victor and alejandro
[14:47] <Tm_T> hmm, all these are from same IP?
[14:47] <bazhang> yep
[14:48] <bazhang>  a simple +q perhaps
[14:48] <Tm_T> ye, about to do that
[14:49] <bazhang> that should fix it
[14:49] <Tm_T> ...I pressed the enter with the same mask at the same time as you did (:
[14:49] <bazhang> hehe
[14:50] <Tm_T> and no, I'm not slow
[14:50] <bazhang> anything but
[14:58] <bazhang> if sug is in fact jungli, he's ban evading again in #ubuntu
[15:09] <rukix1x> quti
[20:14] <LjL> !surround is <reply> If you're having trouble getting surround sound working in Ubuntu, try the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[20:14] <Logan_> LjL: thanks :)
[20:14] <LjL> no prob
[20:30] <Amaranth> Dave2: You around? Or any other staff?
[20:30] <Amaranth> Wondering who owns urd
[20:53] <micahg> hi, how do we get ubottu to recognize the xfce bugtracker/
[21:00] <tsimpson> what kind of tracker is it?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> bugzilla.xfce.org
[21:05] <charlie-tca> modified bugzilla, as far as i know
[21:06] <asac> who is tunning the ubotX nowadays?
[21:06] <asac> and running?
[21:06] <tsimpson> depending on the bot, me
[21:06] <asac> ubot2 ;)
[21:07] <tsimpson> then you want jpds
[21:07] <ikonia> bazhang: sug is jungli and he was removed for ban evading using sug yesterday,Corey was pushing this with staff, I note he's done it again
[21:07] <asac> tsimpson: gratias
[21:09] <ikonia> tsimpson: apologies for missing you yesterday
[21:09] <tsimpson> ikonia: no problem
[21:09] <ikonia> tsimpson: my question was around the same as bazhang's I got an email response from the #xubuntu-ops launchpad team, but it's not something I'd triggered, do you know what this was about ?
[21:09] <tsimpson> charlie-tca: ubottu should now work with it
[21:09] <ikonia> the response came from you, hence asking you
[21:10] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[21:10] <micahg> thanks tsimpson
[21:10] <charlie-tca> Great! it does work!
[21:10] <tsimpson> ikonia: LP being silly, it was "to" another team which invited ~irc-xubuntu-ops to join it, but LP apparently isn't too discreet
[21:11] <ikonia> ahh
[21:11] <ikonia> so not something I should be actually bothere about
[21:11] <ikonia> I wondered if something had gone wrong, or I'd actually requested something by accident
[21:11] <tsimpson> nope, they invited just about every team with "ubuntu" in it from what I could tell
[21:12] <charlie-tca> Yes, I don't know who sent the invite out.
[21:12] <charlie-tca> I thought it was me, at first, too.
[21:12] <ikonia> excellent, so another quality team who are just behaving like idiot facebook processes
[21:12] <charlie-tca> yes, but I thought tsimpson responded very good.
[21:13] <ikonia> totally
[21:17] <topyli> yes the reply was nice and to the point
[21:44] <asac> LjL: jpds: hey ho! ... what we would like to have is ubot2 to join #linaro-android on top of #linaro and #linaro-meeting (where it is already) :) ... let me know! thanks!
[21:44] <LjL> i don't manage the ubots, you probably want tsimpson
[21:45] <asac> heh. thats a loop then
[21:45] <LjL> why, did tsimpson tell you to ask me?
[21:45] <asac> jpds said that jpds runs ubot2 ... so i guess i have to wait
[21:45] <asac> LjL: no that was someone else ;)
[21:45] <LjL> i used to run an "ubotwo" but that's long gone :)
[21:45] <asac> kk
[21:45] <asac> and only the runner is admin?
[21:46] <LjL> i'm not sure, maybe the irc council is also admin
[21:48] <nhandler> asac: I think you might want ubot5 (based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots), which is run by jussi and tsimpson
[21:48]  * asac checks
[21:48] <asac> all i need is lp bugs ;)
[21:49] <asac> ubutu wiki is on snail today again
[21:49] <tsimpson> ubot5 does bugs too
[21:50] <asac> tsimpson: i am happy then ;) ... can you invite him to #linaro-android?
[21:51] <asac> thx!
[21:51] <tsimpson> :)
[21:52] <asac> thanks!
[21:52] <asac> works well
[21:52] <asac> the best bot so far!
[21:52] <asac> has the highest number, so must be best :)
[21:53] <tsimpson> well, it's the newest...
[21:55]  * Flannel goes off to register ubot99
[22:03]  * popey registers ubotA0 through ubotFF
[22:45] <rww> ldunn_fn, soren: please /msg nickserv identify :)
[22:48] <Jordan_U> rww: ':)' isn't a very secure password.
[22:50] <rww> Jordan_U: It's the perfect password. It looks like an emoticon, so if you type it in-channel people don't suspect a thing!
[23:31] <topyli> some say the best password is 'incorrect'
[23:31] <topyli> (if you forget it, your computer will simply tell you what it is)
[23:32] <LjL> when i get my password wrote my computer tells me things like "you type like you drive" :\
[23:32] <LjL> and i don't drive very well :/
[23:34] <rww> sudo insults?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Anyone against "!dpkglock is <alias> aptlock"?
[23:37] <rww> !aptlock
[23:37] <rww> oh that. works for me
[23:37] <Jordan_U> !dpkglock is <alias> aptlock
[23:43] <topyli> i don't know. isn't it better to hunt down and gracefully kill the process that's responsible?
[23:44] <topyli> not sure, that gets the job done just as well
[23:44] <Flannel> topyli: If there's no process responsible (because it's dead) you need to manually delete the lockfile
[23:45] <topyli> yeah i suppose
[23:45] <rww> fwiw, this has never ever happened to me in all my insane apt wanderings. perhaps I am merely lucky.
[23:45] <topyli> most of the times users just have synaptic runnign somewhere though
[23:45] <LjL> that's why you only use the factoid if you have a clue what's going on :P
[23:46] <Flannel> That's why I always force people to give me a ps aux before recommending it :)
[23:46] <topyli> fair enough :)
[23:46] <Flannel> too many apt/synaptic/adept/whatever-etc's to enumerate
[23:46] <rww> I thought we had another factoid somewhere for gracefully killing the process based on the PID in the lockfile
[23:46] <rww> !search pkill
[23:46] <rww> guess not
[23:47] <rww> !search kill
[23:47] <rww> !opguide
[23:47] <rww> huh, didn't know we had that one.
[23:47] <Flannel> Why does "kill" return that?
[23:47] <topyli> we do. feel free to improve
[23:47] <Flannel> oh, skills.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> It's apropos still :)
[23:47] <rww> topyli: i meant the factoid, not the guide
[23:48] <topyli> ah
[23:49] <topyli> grr it's late again and i'm pretty sure tomorrow will bring another morning
[23:49] <Flannel> topyli: That usually happens, yes.
[23:49] <LjL> is there any hope :(
[23:50] <Jordan_U> rww: I don't see any PID in my lock file here, it's just empty.
[23:50] <rww> maybe i'm thinking of something else then
[23:52] <Jordan_U> Interestingly the lock file is still there after dpkg finished.


[00:18] <thumper> veebers: what do we need to do to add another repo into the bot landing?
[00:24] <veebers> thumper: as in a dep?
[00:25] <thumper> veebers: no, as in github.com/juju/description
[00:26] <veebers> thumper: I would have to find out
[00:29] <veebers> thumper: I believe we would need a new jenkins job and to update some scripts/cron for that. I would have to dig further to get a full answer
[00:29] <blahdeblah> thumper: Re: lp:1669046 - we have tickets in already to update all of our standalone controllers to 2.1.0.
[00:29] <blahdeblah> I'll create one shortly to get our HA controller env upgraded, but it may take a little longer - are there any special precautions/procedures for an HA upgrade?
[00:35] <blahdeblah> thumper: Also, if you need anything more on that 1.x to 2.x upgrade preparation, a reply to the ticket I created would be appreciated; gives me a place to log time worked on it.
[00:40] <thumper> blahdeblah: ack
[00:50] <thumper> hmm...
[00:50] <thumper> sublime not doing well with this global rename
[00:51] <thumper> doing save all on 5000 different go files causes it's plugins to work overtime
[00:51]  * thumper twiddles fingers waiting
[00:53] <thumper> oh bollocks
[00:54] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: i just noticed we have remoteApplicationsC in the ignored collections in migration_internal_test.go
[00:54] <thumper> managed to somehow end up with submodules
[00:55] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: oh, whoops - I'll fix that
[00:56] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: no wuckers. i noticed because i'm about to delete an entire collection and associated data model we won't be using anymore
[00:57] <wallyworld> no rush on it - get the spaces worker stuff done so i can test it out :-)
[00:57] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ok - still trying to track down what I've broken.
[00:57] <wallyworld> joy
[00:58] <thumper> 11000 changes across 2800 files
[00:58] <thumper> yeah... do it
[01:00] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: I mean, I've worked out the line that's done it, but I don't understand why. Trying it again now
[01:00] <wallyworld> let me know if you need a 2nd set of eyes
[01:01] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: will do, thanks
[01:06] <blahdeblah> thumper: So, re: the precautions/procedures for HA upgrade question?
[01:10] <axw> wallyworld: sorry, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7047 should have been closed. I have another branch which supersedes it
[01:11] <wallyworld> no worries, i thought that was the case but then i second guessed myself and reviewed anyway. but yeah, it didn't seem to match the latest discussion
[01:11] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ok, worked it out - the connection's dropping because of a panic - nil pointer dereference. :( fixing!
[01:11] <wallyworld> i hate those
[01:11] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: what that in a unit test?
[01:12] <wallyworld> that's why i added the stacktrace to catacomg errors
[01:12] <wallyworld> cause i had a similar issue that was hard to diagnse where it was happening
[01:12] <axw> wallyworld: well actually it's the same branch but updated. pushing now, will address comments and ping you later
[01:12] <wallyworld> np
[01:16] <axw> bleh nope, I'm wrong. closing and will create a new one
[01:22] <thumper> blahdeblah: shouldn't be any different
[01:23] <blahdeblah> thumper: Cool - so we don't need to upgrade each node separately or anything like that?
[01:24] <thumper> nope
[01:26] <blahdeblah> sweet
[01:26] <blahdeblah> thanks
[01:39] <axw> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7066. I'm running QA now
[01:39] <wallyworld> ok, otp with tim
[01:54] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Oops, ListSubnets doesn't like blank space names either - I think there are going to be a few of these.
[01:54] <wallyworld> yeah
[02:11] <veebers> did something in 2.2 change for Azure? I see a _bunch_ of test failures in azure with errors like "'Failed': Code="AuthenticationFailed" Message="Authentication failed.""
[02:15] <babbageclunk> veebers: Sounds like authentication failed.
[02:15] <babbageclunk> :)
[02:16] <veebers> babbageclunk: ah an interesting take on an error message :-\
[02:16] <babbageclunk> veebers: In non-Friday-afternoon-japes mode, not that I know of.
[02:17] <veebers> babbageclunk: thing is this is happening during a bootstrap
[02:17] <veebers> babbageclunk: ack. I still need to pack for the sprint, leaving the house early tomorrow :-*(
[02:18] <babbageclunk> veebers: ouch, I'm not leaving until Sunday afternoon.
[02:19] <veebers> babbageclunk: ah, and arriving Sun evening right? I'm hoping that arriving Sat evening I lessen jetlag and hit the ground running on Monday
[02:19] <babbageclunk> veebers: yeah, shake off some of that jetlag on Bourbon St, I hear you.
[02:19] <babbageclunk> ;)
[02:20] <veebers> babbageclunk: ^_^
[02:22] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ugh, segfault whackamole
[02:24] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: actually, this one isn't a segfault, just the subnets command (calling ListSubnets which I just fixed) now complains about blank spaces.
[02:33] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: rather than giving subnets a blank space, maybe we should be giving them a special space name? I feel like we're going to encounter knock-on effects from this.
[02:34] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: Although I'm not sure about what the special space name would be.
[02:34] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: sorry have been otp till now
[02:35] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: no worries, mostly thinking out loud.
[02:35] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: IIANM it is the intent to use "" as the default space rather than a const "default" or whatever
[02:35] <wallyworld> we will just have to solve the whack a mole sadly
[02:36] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: i need food, will be biab
[02:36] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: ok, lucky I hate those pesky moles.
[02:47] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: given that ListSubnets might now return a blank space tag, should I make a new facade version?
[03:09] <babbageclunk> wallyworld: review plz? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7067
[03:54] <wallyworld> babbageclunk: reviewed
[04:06] <wallyworld> axw: reviewed - IMO we need to include Type in list storage output
[04:07] <axw> wallyworld: should be obvious from the pool?
[04:07] <axw> and/or provider ID?
[04:08] <wallyworld> perhaps, but not guaranteed to be obvious? the pool name might not reflect the type so well? same with provider id which could well be opaque
[04:08] <wallyworld> pool names  can be defined by the user
[04:08] <axw> wallyworld: true, but I would think the operator would know what they've set up
[04:08] <wallyworld> but it is not the operator who always runs list-storage
[04:09] <axw> wallyworld: I'm reluctant because it's going to add a fair bit to the width
[04:09] <wallyworld> think of a support person or other user who did not do the original deploy
[04:09] <wallyworld> the width of the table?
[04:09] <axw> wallyworld: yeah
[04:09] <wallyworld> juju status is not exactly un-wide
[04:09] <axw> wallyworld: indeed, but one of the things we did in 2.0 was to cut it down
[04:10] <axw> cut down size of instance IDs, etc.
[04:10] <axw> to avoid overflowing terminal width by default
[04:10] <wallyworld> sure. but "volume" or "fiesystem" is not that much extra
[04:11] <axw> wallyworld: actually you can't tell from the pool alone anyway, since you couldh ave a filesystem on EBS or whatever
[04:11] <wallyworld> true
[04:11] <axw> I'll look at adding it in
[04:11] <wallyworld> I do think we need it TBH. ty
[04:12] <wallyworld> we can always remove if people complain, but i honestly don't think they will
[04:51] <axw> wallyworld: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7066/commits/fa75bb44923f8aafaf70a8c7615d64dafb494ea0
[04:51] <wallyworld> looking
[04:52] <wallyworld> axw: awesome, thanks
[04:52] <axw> np
[06:12] <blahdeblah> Anyone who's worked on the juju2 user permissions subsystem around?  Just want to ask some questions before I log some seemingly rather silly bugs.
[06:13] <blahdeblah> Asking anyway... :-)
[06:13] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: 2.0.x or 2.1.x?
[06:13] <anastasiamac> there were some changes...
[06:13] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: 2.1.0 stable!
[06:14] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: ask away.. there may not b answers that make ur day :)
[06:14] <blahdeblah> So, Q1: is it expected that superusers are exempt from being disabled?  (Because in my testing, they are.)
[06:14] <blahdeblah> To me this is rather unexpected.
[06:16] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: yes. i believe it's so tat someone can destroy and kill
[06:16] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: maybe that logic needs to be adjusted to not disable if it's the last one
[06:17] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: we have a discussion at sprint next week about user mngmt... so i can bring it up, especially if it's bugged up :)
[06:18] <blahdeblah> OK, so then the bug I will logging is that when you disable a superuser, it gives no indication that your command did absolutely nothing.
[06:18] <blahdeblah> (although it doesn't do nothing; it does actually mark the user as disabled, and it shows this way in list-users --all)
[06:23] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: Q2: Is it expected that non-superusers which are disabled and then re-enabled lose all of their grants to various models?  To me this is also rather unexpected.
[06:24] <blahdeblah> When I disable a user and then re-enable that same user immediately (say, because I typoed the user name and disabled the wrong one), I don't want to have to work out which models were affected.
[06:25] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: i *think* this is expected as you want to b explcit about ur grants when re-enabling a user
[06:25] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: but again, it something to discuss
[06:26] <blahdeblah> No, I don't.  I want them to go back exactly as they were. :-)
[06:26] <anastasiamac> k \o/ file it and i'll see what we do
[06:26] <blahdeblah> OK - thanks
[06:57] <axw> wallyworld: do you recall if CI/builders are using go 1.7 to build already? or still on 1.6?
[07:01] <wallyworld> axw: still 1.6 AFAIK
[07:01] <axw> bugger
[07:03] <wallyworld> i could be wrong but i think it's 1.6
[07:03] <wallyworld> is there a 1.7 feature you want to use?
[07:03] <axw> wallyworld: yeah, http request context
[07:03] <axw> wallyworld: 1.8 would be better, since that has graceful shutdown/close methods on server
[07:04] <wallyworld> is 1.8 officially out yet? last i heard it was still rc?
[07:05] <axw> wallyworld: https://blog.golang.org/go1.8
[07:05] <wallyworld> i/m 2 weeks out of date
[07:05] <axw> wallyworld: also I suspect sort.Slice could be useful in a few parts of the codebase...
[07:05] <wallyworld> indeed
[07:06] <wallyworld> we'll have the right people necxt week to discuss
[07:06] <wallyworld> i'll add it to the agenda
[07:07] <axw> wallyworld: cool, thanks
[07:07] <axw> IIANM we can use whatever we like now, and are not dependent on archives
[07:09] <wallyworld> yeah, i think so too
[10:02] <mup> Bug #1669729 opened: Cannot update machine data <canonical-bootstack> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669729>
[10:36] <SimonKLB> any idea why i can't switch to a model that i have never connected to using a new user in juju?
[10:36] <SimonKLB> i can see the model in `juju models`
[10:37] <SimonKLB> but `juju switch aws:default` just spits out 'ERROR "aws:default" is not the name of a model or controller'
[10:38] <SimonKLB> looks like there is some problem at the controller level even
[10:38] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: is your controller called aws?
[10:39] <SimonKLB> babbageclunk: yea
[10:39] <SimonKLB> added a new user, got the register base64 string, added it to the new user and named the controller aws
[10:39] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: maybe something's getting confused between that and the aws provider
[10:40] <SimonKLB> ill retry with a more unique name
[10:40] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: It's a guess, sorry.
[10:41] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: Could also try passing --debug to  `juju switch`
[10:41] <SimonKLB> babbageclunk: do you have to re-do the add-user process, because now the second time i use the register string i get 'ERROR secret key for user "X" not found'
[10:42] <SimonKLB> or can i genenrate the string again without having to do add-user?
[10:43] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: I don't think you can reuse the register string (I'm not certain of that though) - try adding another user?
[10:43] <SimonKLB> yea will do
[10:45] <SimonKLB> babbageclunk: same thing using "mycontroller" as the name
[10:45] <SimonKLB> nothing stands out in the --debug output
[10:46] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: you can see the model in `juju models`?
[10:46] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: did you grant access to the user?
[10:47] <SimonKLB> babbageclunk: yea i granted access
[10:47] <SimonKLB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24101356/
[10:48] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: Try `juju switch mycontroller:admin/default`?
[10:48] <SimonKLB> doh...
[10:48] <SimonKLB> thanks man haha
[10:49] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: hmm, I don't think the admin/ should be necessary, since just default is not ambiguous.
[10:49] <SimonKLB> any idea why its named admin/default there and not elsewhere?
[10:49] <SimonKLB> well it worked using admin/ but not without :O
[10:50] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: It's admin/default because it's owned by admin.
[10:50] <SimonKLB> aaah
[10:50] <SimonKLB> make sense
[10:51] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: It's still pretty confusing though - can you file a bug? Or I will.
[10:51] <SimonKLB> launchpad or github?
[10:51] <perrito666> morning
[10:54] <SimonKLB> nvm launchpad it is!
[10:54] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: yes launchpad please!
[10:55] <babbageclunk> morning perrito666!
[10:55] <perrito666> babbageclunk: coming to the sprint?
[10:55] <babbageclunk> perrito666: yup yup, assuming I get into the country
[10:55] <perrito666> babbageclunk: yes, we are all under the same assumption, I dont thing the place for the sprint was very wisely chosen :p
[10:56] <perrito666> we go to uk after the brexit and now to the US, who is pickig the destinatios?
[10:57] <babbageclunk> perrito666: political storm-chasing
[10:57] <perrito666> heh
[11:06] <SimonKLB> babbageclunk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1669745
[11:06] <mup> Bug #1669745: Model name different for model owner and non-owner might confuse new users <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669745>
[11:07] <babbageclunk> SimonKLB: Nice write-up, thanks! I've tagged it with usability.
[17:15] <rogpeppe1> if anyone cares to take a look, i've just put a PR up for review of a change to gopkg.in/juju/worker.v1. my aim is to use it to replace a bunch of the state/workers.RestartWorker stuff: https://github.com/juju/worker/pull/2
[21:20] <redir> i saw perrito666 new ride today: https://goo.gl/NDtqUN


[12:18] <frankban> bogdanteleaga: new GUI charms released: precise/juju-gui-121 and trusty/juju-gui-38. they include the changes your suggested re deploying local charm archives
[12:18] <frankban> suggested changes
[12:25] <frankban> urulama_: ^^^
[12:26] <urulama_> frankban: great
[12:27] <frankban> urulama_: https://jujucharms.com/juju-gui/trusty now shows New charm release (1.4.3). commit which is two commits ago, so at least it's consistent ;-)
[12:28] <urulama_> :D
[12:28] <urulama_> frankban: https://manage.jujucharms.com/api/3/charm/trusty/juju-gui
[12:28] <urulama_> :S
[12:28] <urulama_> there's the source
[12:28] <urulama_> (of the problem)
[12:29] <frankban> ack