[03:58] <TokenBad> anyone know if electricsheep 2.6 is on the repositories?
[03:58] <Shake> Ask Ignignokt.
[03:58] <Shake> :)
[03:58] <Madpilot> TokenBad: you can check packages.ubuntu.com for it
[03:58] <psusi> that was a long time ago though... how long has it been since I used a modem?  hrm... it's 2005.... probably last time I used one was... maybe in 2000
[03:59] <TokenBad> Madpilot, its normally just electricsheep
[03:59] <TokenBad> it don't say version
[03:59] <Madpilot> TokenBad: the version info will be somewhere, though
[03:59] <ghostdog> nalioth i just removed it
[04:00] <Madpilot> TokenBad: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=electricsheep&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[04:00] <nalioth> ghostdog: now "sudo apt-get install k3b"
[04:01] <apokryphos> TokenBad: you can always use packages.ubuntu.com, or (in here), /msg ubotu info <package>   ...for all package info. =)
[04:01] <surfdue> hey
[04:01] <opaw> hi!!!
[04:01] <Deekin> Evening all
[04:01] <Deekin> \
[04:01] <surfdue> this guy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>got banned
[04:01] <shey_16> hi
[04:01] <surfdue> another person on his line
[04:01] <shey_16> helo
[04:01] <surfdue> cna it get unbanned cause all of them are now
[04:02] <shey_16> can i join u
[04:02] <ShowerJAde> hi shey
[04:02] <michi> wow ubuntu uses dbus and hal for mounting cdrom and usb hdds automaticaly thats great
[04:02] <hill> hi
[04:02] <ShowerJAde> wakokok
[04:03] <ShowerJAde> this Ubuntu sucks
[04:03] <locomorto> michi: not dbus, udev
[04:03] <shey_16> helo
[04:03] <locomorto> ShowerJAde: in what way?
[04:03] <misfit_toy> man I loved hoary but I just can't get nvidia drivers to load with breezy...darnit
[04:03] <zxsykco> Ahoy.
[04:03] <locomorto> misfit_toy: did you install the repo versions?
[04:04] <Deekin> how are the drivers that do work, misfit?
[04:04] <shey_16> can we b friends
[04:04] <Deekin> or you cant get anything at all?
[04:04] <misfit_toy> locomorto, repo versions of what?
[04:04] <michi> it must be using dbus, how should it notice me pressing the eject button my cdrom drive
[04:04] <zxsykco> Yes, for a dollar shey_16 and I'll be anyones friend!
[04:04] <misfit_toy> locomorto, I installed a fresh breezy preview and download the nvidia drivers, neither 7676 or 7174 work
[04:04] <Deekin> hmmm
[04:04] <misfit_toy> locomorto, they both complain that 7676 is already installed? weird
[04:05] <zxsykco> Or fifty cents if your on a tight budget..
[04:05] <zxsykco> No refunds.
[04:05] <shey_16> njjjjjjkbgft
[04:05] <Deekin> i was about to dl ubuntu meself, but meebe ill look a bit...
[04:05] <shey_16> ghkuhhh
[04:05] <shey_16> nnnk
[04:05] <shey_16> rttuo
[04:05] <shey_16> y78y9
[04:05] <shey_16> yu6ortoey
[04:05] <hill> sdsdsdfsfdg
[04:05] <shey_16> ytoioiwemf'al
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:05] <hill> sdfg
[04:05] <hill> sdfg
[04:05] <hill> sdfg
[04:05] <hill> sdfg
[04:05] <hill> dfg
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:05] <hill> dfg
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:05] <locomorto> eh
[04:05] <zxsykco> qwerty?
[04:05] <hill> sdfg
[04:05] <hill> dfsg
[04:05] <Madpilot> !ops
[04:05] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:05] <Greg> hello
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:05] <hill> dsfg
[04:06] <psusi> knock it off you stupid son of a bitch
[04:06] <hill> dsfg
[04:06] <shey_16> dfjdg
[04:06] <Greg> anyone knoe of a good temperature monitor for linux?
[04:06] <locomorto> thanks
[04:06] <shey_16> hi
[04:06] <Deekin> woot
[04:06] <locomorto> Greg: gdesklets-data
[04:06] <Madpilot> Greg: lm-sensors works - there's a tutorial on the Ubuntu forum for it
[04:06] <locomorto> Greg: theres heaps in there
[04:06] <Greg> okay, thank you
[04:06] <shey_16> can i join ur conversation
[04:06] <Deekin> anyone play nwn under ubuntu?
[04:06] <locomorto> Deekin: I did
[04:07] <Deekin> what did you think?
[04:07] <zxsykco> Talk away!
[04:07] <shey_16> tuytiu
[04:07] <locomorto> Worked great
[04:07] <psusi> more important question... anyone play WoW under ubunto? ;)
[04:07] <shey_16> jhoul
[04:07] <Deekin> its my first order of business hehe
[04:07] <Deekin> awesome thanks
[04:07] <locomorto> Try the loki installer
[04:07] <shey_16> koiuplo
[04:07] <Deekin> loki? ok
[04:07] <locomorto> google that
[04:07] <shey_16> nhkkfssyl;
[04:07] <shey_16> khd
[04:07] <psusi> Loki?  Norse God of mischief?
[04:08] <tylo> Hello. I've installed my ATI drivers, and I cannot get my desktop resolution above 1280x1024. Might anyone no why?
[04:08] <jjazz_> How can I add a root user and password?  I just need it for a minute to run some samba/cups stuff that doesn't seem to know about sudo.
[04:08] <slicslak> the default torrent downloader.  what port does it listen on?
[04:08] <Deekin> heh just did thanks again
[04:08] <locomorto> tylo: you have to change the vaules in xorg.conf
[04:08] <nalioth> slicslak: 6881
[04:08] <Deekin> ill worry about WoW after hehe
[04:09] <jjazz_> slicslak, 6881-6889
[04:09] <slicslak> cool, thx
[04:09] <La_PaRCa> heeey... anyone know where I can go for some help with pydev?
[04:09] <locomorto> Deekin: WoW == pain
[04:09] <tylo> locomorto: Thing is, when I generated the xorg.conf from the website, I set it to be a higher resolution. What happens is that my Welcome Screen is of that higher resolution (I think), but when I get to my Desktop, I can see my monitor blacking out (as if it were making a resolution adjustment).
[04:10] <Deekin> So I hear loco - I hear Cedega mentioned a lot...
[04:10] <Deekin> My XP box died today and I am not resurrecting it
[04:10] <psusi> Blizzard sure does know how to ink every last ounce of performance out of a machine
[04:10] <locomorto> Deekin: it still is pain even with cedega
[04:10] <Deekin> running now on a nix cd heh
[04:10] <Deekin> really?
[04:10] <jtan325> La_PaRCa, what do you need help with?
[04:10] <Deekin> bleh
[04:10] <locomorto> tylo: Check your xorg.conf
[04:10] <Deekin> slow?
[04:10] <locomorto> tylo: Only have the resolution you want in there
[04:10] <locomorto> Deekin: not really
[04:11] <tylo> locomorto: Alright, I'll see what happens.
[04:11] <locomorto> Deekin: just annoying to instal
[04:11] <benplaut> no more uber-ugly WINE'd apps!
[04:11] <ghostdog> nalioth: i just removed it and installed it but i dont see the k3b
[04:11] <Deekin> Hmm - is the config a pain Loco?
[04:11] <benplaut> yipee!!!
[04:11] <Deekin> Ah
[04:11] <ghostdog> sudo k3b
[04:11] <locomorto> Deekin: If you use point2play it supposed to be much easier
[04:12] <nalioth> ghostdog: open a terminal, and type "which k3b"
[04:12] <durt> benplaut: what happened?
[04:12] <benplaut> editing of the fake registry files
[04:12] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, I cant get code autocompletion to work
[04:12] <benplaut> everything was a dull, uber-ugly gray
[04:13] <benplaut> now, it's nice and almost native looking :)
[04:13] <jtan325> La_PaRCa, do you mean when you type a "."
[04:13] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, yeah
[04:13] <jtan325> hrmmm
[04:13] <jtan325> are your import paths correct?
[04:13] <nalioth> ghostdog: also, you should never run gui apps as root (some exceptions, of course)
[04:13] <tylo> locomorto: Is this the section I want to change? "Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480""
[04:13] <jtan325> and are you working across several "projects"
[04:13] <Madpilot> Cool, k3b *finally* copied my audio CD... wth was wrong with gnomebaker?
[04:13] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, a self. and the ctrl+space does nothing for some reason
[04:13] <locomorto> tylo: yes
[04:14] <jtan325> hrmmmm
[04:14] <ghostdog> nalioth it gave /usr/bin/k3b
[04:14] <tylo> Can anyone name some of the higher resolutions off by heart? :-P
[04:14] <jtan325> and there's an __init__.py in the project folder?
[04:14] <psusi> 1600 x 1200
[04:14] <durt> 1400 x 1050
[04:14] <psusi> but I don't recomend it unless you have a big ass 21 inch crt
[04:14] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, yeah
[04:14] <jtan325> and if you're working across multiple "projects"
[04:15] <nalioth> ghostdog: try typing "/usr/bin/k3b" in the terminal
[04:15] <jtan325> then you might have to cross-reference by setitng the "external source folder" for each project
[04:15] <jtan325> what version of eclipse?
[04:15] <lancellor> if i buy a extrnal hard drive it will be plug and play with ubuntu// LIKE A USB Thumb drive
[04:15] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, 3.1 let me try that
[04:15] <kevin007> I wish I could get 1400x1050 working on my D600
[04:16] <locomorto> kevin007: you can
[04:16] <jtan325> La_PaRCa, there is something better than autocomplete then
[04:16] <jtan325> it's called hippie complete
[04:16] <Madpilot> lancellor: it should be...
[04:16] <locomorto> kevin007: Edit your xorg.conf
[04:16] <jtan325> type the first two or three letters of some name
[04:16] <lancellor> ok
[04:16] <jtan325> and then do alt + /
[04:16] <kevin007> Tried that, but still didn't have the option in gnom e
[04:16] <jtan325> and it finishes the name
[04:16] <locomorto> kevin007: So that it has that in there, you'll see the correct format once you go in
[04:16] <jtan325> it's like autocomplete except better
[04:16] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, wait... umm.. what was that you said about __init__.py?
[04:17] <kevin007> Have you gotten it working?
[04:17] <ghostdog> nalioth it work but theres a problem install CDrDAO
[04:17] <lancellor> i habe been tryng to install a second hard drive for storage but did not worked so i think i'm going to buy a usb 2.0 hard drive enclosure
[04:17] <ghostdog> nalioth it work but theres a problem install CDrDAO package
[04:17] <ngmlinux_> anybody know why i might get a !MESSAGE /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins is not a valid plugins directory.
[04:17] <ngmlinux_> error when booting eclipse?
[04:18] <jtan325> La_PaRCa, you should have an __init__.py in your project folders
[04:18] <adjacent> hmm. what happened to the ubuntuguide.org DNS servers? or is it godaddy?
[04:18] <nalioth> ghostdog: so "sudo apt-get install cdrdao"
[04:18] <jtan325> it's just an empty file
[04:18] <jtan325> but yea
[04:18] <jtan325> or at least that's how it goes at work...
[04:18] <nalioth> ghostdog: and dont use sudo on gui apps
[04:18] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, um... I dont have that... what should go in that file?
[04:19] <ghostdog> sudo apt-get install cdrdao
[04:19] <jtan325> nothing
[04:19] <jtan325> it's empty
[04:19] <ngmlinux_> anybody know why i might get a !MESSAGE /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins is not a valid plugins directory.
[04:19] <ghostdog> nalioth , tnx man
[04:19] <jtan325> actually
[04:19] <jtan325> La_PaRCa, does your program run?
[04:19] <jtan325> if it doesn, then you probably don't need __init__.py
[04:19] <adjacent> will someone tell me the ubuntuguide.org ip?
[04:19] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, yes, it does
[04:20] <jtan325> hmmmm
[04:20] <jtan325> well i have no more ideas
[04:20] <jtan325> like i said
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, wait... it runs independent, but I havent got it running from eclipse
[04:20] <jtan325> hippie complete
[04:20] <jtan325> ah
[04:20] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, hippie complete wont work either
[04:20] <jtan325> ...
[04:20] <Madpilot> adjacent: use wiki.ubuntu.com instead...
[04:20] <ngmlinux_> sorry wrong room
[04:20] <ngmlinux_> exit
[04:20] <nalioth> adjacent: ubuntuguide is down, use wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:21] <lancellor> how do i install a second hard drive for storage???
[04:21] <locomorto> adjacent: you can also use the google cache of it
[04:21] <jtan325> anyway, try the __init__.py and then right click on each project and set the external source folder in "properties" to point to the other folders
[04:21] <apokryphos> lancellor: plug it in then mount =)
[04:21] <jtan325> i gotta go, but hope it works
[04:21] <tylo> Thanks for helping me with my resolution everyone.
[04:21] <tylo> My optomitrist's pocket book will be very happy.
[04:21] <La_PaRCa> jtan325, ok, thanks
[04:22] <adjacent> locomorto: nalioth: Madpilot: thanks.
[04:22] <lancellor> ok but how i forgot to tell you i'm a newbie
[04:22] <jessid> some of you know what is this?: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[04:22] <jessid> and how can I fix it?
[04:23] <kevin007> when do you get that message?
[04:23] <jessid> when the screen saver starts
[04:23] <apokryphos> !tell lancellor about windowsdrives
[04:23] <locomorto> jessid: the drivers didn't load the 3d part properly
[04:23] <lancellor> can i mount it even if is formated in fat 32??
[04:23] <apokryphos> lancellor: use that script that ubotu just linked to; it'll do it all for you. =)
[04:23] <kevin007> yeah I would say it's a 3d issue
[04:23] <locomorto> !tell me
[04:23] <apokryphos> lancellor: of course, yes.
[04:23] <jessid> locomorto don you know what can I do to fis it?
[04:24] <kevin007> what video card are you using?
[04:24] <jessid> Nvidia
[04:24] <fossa> hi
[04:24] <locomorto> jessid: where did you get the drivers from?
[04:24] <fossa> how do i upgrade hoary to breezy?
[04:24] <usr13> anyone have any luck with xine?
[04:24] <nalioth> !tell fossa about upgrade2breezy
[04:24] <apokryphos> !upgrade2breezy
[04:24] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:24] <jessid> using synaptic
[04:24] <locomorto> usr13: yes
[04:24] <locomorto> usr13: i use totem-xine though
[04:25] <jessid> locomorto using synaptic
[04:25] <kevin007> is dri on?
[04:25] <kevin007> should say in glxinfo
[04:25] <usr13> totem-xine ?
[04:25] <jessid> it was working ok, but I don't know if it is because of an upgrade
[04:25] <usr13> I tried xine and  gxine and no luck.
[04:25] <locomorto> usr13: It uses the xine backend, in totem
[04:25] <fossa> is it still a risk that my system might become unusable?
[04:25] <usr13> what is totem-xine
[04:25] <locomorto> usr13: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:26] <jessid> kevin007 are you talking to me? do I have to do something with glxinfo? if so, what is that?
[04:26] <nalioth> fossa: not as much of one, you should be ok
[04:26] <fossa> ok thanks
[04:26] <kevin007> jessid: does glxinfo report that direct rendering is on?
[04:27] <kevin007> "glxinfo | more" it should be towards the top
[04:27] <usr13> do I need to uninstall xine or gxine first?
[04:27] <locomorto> usr13: no
[04:27] <jessid> kevin007 give me a second I check
[04:28] <lancellor> i saved the file do i hve to rename it to winmac_fstab
[04:28] <jessid> kevin007: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[04:28] <jessid> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[04:28] <jessid> it was working ok, but from one momento to other, it ws dead...
[04:28] <jessid> :-(
[04:28] <ugo> hey what's the package name for the x-free devel libraries?
[04:28] <usr13> "totem-xine is already the newest version."
[04:29] <usr13> How does one run totem-xine?
[04:30] <DjKritical> jessid:... you're going in the wrong direction
[04:30] <lancellor> or how do i rename it
[04:30] <DjKritical> jessid: I had heaps of problems with my nvidia card aswell.. same as you're decribing
[04:30] <DjKritical> jessid: first of all don't use the apt-get/synaptic packages for the nvidia drivers
[04:30] <ugo> found it
[04:30] <ugo> thanks
[04:31] <lancellor> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab i just download this file how do i save with name
[04:31] <jessid> DjKritical what do I have to do? It was working ok, but no any more
[04:31] <DjKritical> jessid: go download the newest nvidia drivers from the nvidia website.. they're incredibly easy to download... just type... sudo ./NIVIDIA...blahblahblah
[04:31] <kevin007> jessid: I would reinstall the nvidia driver
[04:31] <DjKritical> DjKritical, my drivers drop working ALL THE TIME
[04:31] <DjKritical> err
[04:31] <nalioth> lancellor: read the winmac_fstab in a text editor
[04:31] <jessid> kevin007 ok ok
[04:31] <Deekin> thanks for the nvidia info - thats helpful stuff
[04:31] <DjKritical> jessid: whenever they do I just go into the vc and reinstall them... takes like 1 minute
[04:32] <jessid> I'll do it right now...thanks
[04:32] <kevin007> NP
[04:32] <cafuego_> DjKritical: Odd, those drivers have been working fine since the first day I installed them.
[04:32] <lancellor> Open a terminal and type sudo bash winmac_fstab so i just type this??
[04:32] <kevin007> speaking of video though... anyone have any luck running 1400x1050 on Dell laptops?
[04:32] <nalioth> lancellor: yes, that would do it
[04:32] <jessid> DjKritical what is vc? virtual console?
[04:32] <DjKritical> cafuego, They work fine for me.. but every couple of reboots they hang on the glx module
[04:32] <kevin007> It's more than configuring xorg.conf
[04:32] <cafuego_> jessid: DjKritical is on crack, the prepackaged drivers are fine.
[04:33] <DjKritical> jessid: yeah virtual console.. if x fails to start up just go into ctrl+alt+1 and reinstall the drivers
[04:33] <cafuego_> kevin007: You need a modeline for Xorg, use google to find it.
[04:33] <DjKritical> cafuego, oh really? then why isn't jessids computer working?
[04:33] <cafuego_> DjKritical: karma?
[04:33] <jessid> DjKritical very good...i'll do it rignt now. Thanks
[04:33] <kevin007> okay, will look for the modeline
[04:33] <DjKritical> cafuego, have you experienced the same problem as him? no? then stfu
[04:33] <cafuego_> Installing non-packaged software isn't a great idea.
[04:34] <DjKritical> cafuego, the packaged nvidia drivers ARE OLD
[04:34] <bob2> DjKritical: you're experiencing problems with ubuntu's pre-packaged nvidia drivers today?
[04:34] <DjKritical> bob2: no like 2 weeks ago
[04:34] <cafuego_> DjKritical: Maybe a better suggestion then would be to use backported Breezy ones?
[04:34] <foampeace> stfu?
[04:34] <capiCrimm> When installing programs it says I should never run as root. What type of user should I run it under?
[04:35] <foampeace> who is saint fu?
[04:35] <DjKritical> lol
[04:35] <bob2> DjKritical: so, that seems entirely unrelated to any issues kevin007 might be having
[04:35] <bob2> capiCrimm: your regular one...
[04:35] <usr13> anyone have any luck getting totem to play dvds?
[04:35] <DjKritical> bob2: that was regarding jassids issuesm not kevin007
[04:35] <usr13> "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailab"
[04:35] <usr13> "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable"
[04:35] <Madpilot> !tell capiCrimm about root
[04:35] <bob2> usr13: /msg ubotu restricted
[04:35] <cafuego_> usr13: ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples
[04:36] <dabaR> DjKritical: please follow the behavior guidelines for the Ubuntu community. http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
[04:36] <nalioth> !tell usr13 about restricted
[04:36] <dabaR> heh, but serious. You can just say something else than stfu
[04:36] <lodis4> What settings in fstab will allow Ubuntu to recognize a reiserfs partition?
[04:36] <usr13> install-css.sh
[04:36] <usr13> ?
[04:36] <bz0b> i think i messed up my /etc/sudoers file, how do I fix it
[04:36] <cafuego_> Yes, giving good advice for example.
[04:36] <DjKritical> hah yeah I know you're most likely right :P
[04:36] <bob2> lodis4: ubuntu will never magically mount things like that; just add the right line to /etc/fstab
[04:36] <cafuego_> usr13: Yep, run that via sudo.
[04:36] <DjKritical> it was good advice cafuego
[04:36] <bob2> lodis4: copy the one for your root partition and modify it to suit
[04:37] <lodis4> I have added the correct information in fstab
[04:37] <cafuego_> DjKritical: "Downlaod this thing, then run it without knowing what it does and where it puts files" is not good advice.
[04:37] <capiCrimm> Madpilot, I'm actually running debian in this case... I just like the Ubuntu community.
[04:37] <bob2> lodis4: and it doesn't work?
[04:37] <DjKritical> cafuego, I can almost garuntee it will fix his problem, because I had the exact same problem.. and it took me like a week with the help of people in this channel to figure it out
[04:37] <lodis4> but I get errrors regarding the file system type
[04:37] <lodis4> I put in reiserfs as the type
[04:37] <Madpilot> capiCrimm: I've never visited it, but I've heard... stories... about the debian IRC channel... ;)
[04:37] <cafuego_> DjKritical: I think still backporting the breezy driver would be a much better idea.
[04:38] <cafuego_> lodis4: why?
[04:38] <DjKritical> cafuego, backporting a driver?... "waves his hand over his head"
[04:38] <bob2> lodis4: then show us your /etc/fstab in #flood
[04:38] <lodis4> cafuego_:why what?
[04:38] <usr13> ?There is no plugin to handle this movie.?
[04:38] <cafuego_> DjKritical: The right way to do what you're proposing.
[04:38] <cafuego_> lodis4: Why reiser?
[04:38] <bz0b> bob2: if i messd up my sudoers file to were i cant even use the command sudo, what do I do? failsafe?
[04:38] <bob2> bz0b: yes
[04:39] <bz0b> alright
[04:39] <lodis4> it was an experiment w/dual booting Ubuntu and SuSE
[04:39] <DjKritical> cafuego, like you said before... whats the point in getting someone to do something complicated like that when nvidias website has simple instructions on how to install the newest drivers with one command that will fix the problem?...
[04:39] <foampeace> will we have to live in tunnels underground after saint fu? its the curse of saint fu the man achooo! bless me
[04:39] <cafuego_> lodis4: Is it reiser3 or reiser4?
[04:39] <DjKritical> cafuego, simple solution for a simple problem...
[04:39] <p00f> D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.
[04:40] <lodis4> I dunno, the suse install just said reiserfs.........I didnt install the machine
[04:40] <cafuego_> DjKritical; because they'll end up with unpackages software on their system, in critical locations.  They will then come here and complain... will YOU be here then to tell them they broke the apckage system?
[04:40] <lancellor> lancellor@ubuntu:~/Documents$ sudo bash winmac_fstab
[04:40] <lancellor> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[04:40] <lancellor> Lancellor (lancellor)
[04:40] <lancellor> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[04:40] <lancellor> y
[04:40] <lancellor> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[04:40] <DjKritical> and dabaR can you direct one of those ubuntu policy things at cafuego for claiming I was on crack? thats where the s*** came from :P
[04:40] <nalioth> lancellor: please dont paste in here
[04:40] <lancellor> sorry
[04:40] <bob2> lancellor: plese don't paste in here
[04:40] <nalioth> lancellor: read the /topic or use #flood
[04:41] <lancellor> that is what i got from the script
[04:41] <bob2> lodis4: just paste your /etc/fstab to #flood
[04:41] <cafuego_> DjKritical: I know the policy, that's why I said you were on crack, as opposed to saying stfu.
[04:41] <nalioth> lancellor: you can paste anything you want in a pastebin
[04:41] <michi> lancellor,  do you have windows or mac partitions?
[04:41] <lancellor> sorry about the pasting..
[04:41] <lodis4> I dont have access to it right now, I typed out the line I added to fstab in there though
[04:41] <DjKritical> cafuego, are you trying to say that the newest nvidia drivers are going to scerw his system... both you and I know that's a fallacy
[04:41] <lancellor> is a fat 32 partition i formated the hard drive with gparted
[04:42] <p00f> qtparted?
[04:42] <foampeace> windows came i was looking outside them. I stole those windows. Now im outside in the open and free
[04:42] <gn0me> I can't see my FPS in glxgears anymore. :(
[04:42] <lancellor> gparted
[04:42] <cafuego_> DjKritical: They *may* screw his system up when an update wants to install  a new nvidia-glx and fails. Then it'll be up to US to fix the mess YOu made him create.
[04:42] <cafuego_> DjKritical: See my point?
[04:42] <Madpilot> gn0me: start it via the command line?
[04:42] <gn0me> Did that
[04:42] <cafuego_> DjKritical: If he fixes the problem properly to begin with, that won't happen.
[04:42] <robotgeek> gn0me: you have to launch it with glxgears --iagreethisisnotabenchmark
[04:42] <gn0me> ahaha
[04:42] <nalioth> p00f: there are g- and qt- parted
[04:42] <Madpilot> robotgeek: ha!
[04:43] <ColonelKernel> anyone ever seen one of these? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1530726
[04:43] <michi> lancellor,  so you have created a fat32 partition?
[04:43] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i remember that one!
[04:43] <p00f> oh, neat... the G one for Gnome?
[04:43] <ColonelKernel> ive never heard of a sempron64
[04:43] <hyphenated> I hope this hasn't been asked a hundred times... can other people resolve ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net ?
[04:43] <ColonelKernel> I thought semprons were 32 bit
[04:43] <lancellor> yes
[04:43] <regeya> doubtful.
[04:43] <bob2> lodis4: why do you have "automount" in the options field?
[04:43] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: amds new low end 64bit proc
[04:43] <bob2> lodis4: replace it with default,auto
[04:43] <gn0me> hyphenated: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:43] <michi> lancellor,  how did you create the partition? which fdisk?
[04:43] <bob2> michi: please don't run that in here
[04:43] <nalioth> p00f: the "g" for gtk
[04:43] <michi> bob2,  ok
[04:43] <gn0me> hyphenated: Works fine for me
[04:44] <DjKritical> cafuego, I see your point yes, but however your solution of installing backported drivers isn't even proven to work.  You're saying my solution is flawed, I'm challenging that your solution wouldn't even work.
[04:44] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, the drawback being the low cache?
[04:44] <lancellor> i nstalled the hard drive and i went to GParted and created the fat32 partition
[04:44] <lodis4> bob2: I copied another line in fstab and changed the info to suit my need for this one
[04:44] <nalioth_wrkn> bbl
[04:44] <p00f> Oh, the all mighty Gimp tool kit... wow, Wilbur partitions hardisks now :) neat. Thanks for th einfo :)
[04:44] <hyphenated> gn0me: 'host ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net' gives you an IP address? won't work for me here (indonesia) or my other shell (New zealand)
[04:44] <bob2> lodis4: that's wrong, anyway
[04:44] <ColonelKernel> my god, 62 bucks, thats cheap
[04:44] <gn0me> sec.
[04:44] <ColonelKernel> 63 I mean
[04:44] <lodis4> bob2: what is
[04:44] <bob2> lodis4: as above
[04:44] <DjKritical> cafuego, also if he were wanting to upgrade his drivers in the future the easiest option is to get them straight from nvidia instead of waiting weeks for the repositories to be updated
[04:44] <michi> lancellor,  if you do fdisk -l /dev/hdx    do you see the partition? replace x with the right disk
[04:45] <bob2> hyphenated: someone broke their dns
[04:45] <cafuego_> DjKritical: Yeah, it can't POSSIBLY work if it's a good idea.
[04:45] <gn0me> hyphenated: Must've been overnight then.
[04:45] <gn0me> Worked fine yesterday for me.
[04:45] <lancellor> let me check
[04:45] <hyphenated> nobody knows the IP address, by any chance? ;-)
[04:45] <lodis4> I think it will mount if I can figure out what to call the reiser fs
[04:46] <gn0me> lodis4: Bilbo
[04:46] <dabaR_> hyphenated: I think backports are at several servers, check out what ubotu sends you.
[04:46] <DjKritical> cafuego, how abot you go hold his hand through it and prove me wrong :P
[04:46] <freeman_08> hello people
[04:46] <gn0me> Hello Gordon Freeman! You're late!
[04:46] <lodis4> gn0me: bilbo?? uhhh joke?
[04:46] <lancellor> nope
[04:46] <freeman_08> hehehe
[04:46] <regeya> hyphenated, if you look at the ubuntu backports home, there are a few mirrors listed
[04:46] <freeman_08> im a newbie using linux
[04:47] <usr13> totem complains "There is no plugin to handle this movie"
[04:47] <Mostro> Hello all..... Is there a way to force a cron job to run
[04:47] <usr13> anyone know how to get totem to work?
[04:47] <lancellor> i did   fdisk -l /dev/hdb1
[04:47] <usr13> any totem experts?  :)
[04:47] <lancellor> Cannot open /dev/hdb1
[04:48] <usr13>  cafuego_, R U still here?
[04:48] <dabaR> usr13: what are you playing? dont ever ask a question like any $program experts.
[04:48] <dabaR> usr13: what type of file, that is.
[04:48] <lodis4> lencellor: try fdisk /dev/hdb
[04:48] <foampeace> usr13: whats wrong?
[04:48] <lancellor> ok
[04:48] <Mostro> What version are you running?
[04:48] <usr13> totem complains "There is no plugin to handle this movie"
[04:48] <Mostro> Do you have Gstreamer installed?
[04:49] <foampeace> usr13: follow the wiki instructions
[04:49] <michi> hm
[04:49] <michi> win32codecs installed?
[04:49] <foampeace> usr13: you need the w32codecs also which is in the restricted source i think
[04:49] <usr13> michi:was that for me?
[04:49] <dabaR> you guys should know about what type of file he is playing to know that.
[04:50] <hyphenated> thanks guys
[04:50] <dabaR> This way, you are just guessing. w32codecs play .wmv .wma files.
[04:50] <lancellor> i have to use sudo y tried with sudo and worked
[04:50] <jimurine> hey i'm having some trouble getting Grub to recognize my windows partition to boot WinME
[04:51] <usr13> palying [file type] : VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP
[04:51] <lancellor> this is what i type    "sudo fdisk fdisk -l /dev/hdb1"
[04:51] <dabaR> is it a dvd, usr13?
[04:51] <michi> usr13,  yeah you need w32codecs, cause there is no native librarys for the most codecs
[04:51] <dabaR> michi: ...that is so incorrect, afaik
[04:51] <lastnode> apt-get installer mplayer
[04:51] <lastnode> bah
[04:51] <ColonelKernel> evidently the sempron64 is an overclocking BEAST
[04:51] <lastnode> sorry
[04:51] <ColonelKernel> whe i have more dough im gonna do that
[04:52] <usr13>  michi; is w32codecs installable via apt-get?
[04:52] <michi> dabaR,  why do i need w32codec then?
[04:52] <foampeace> jimurine: windows must be stuck...try rolling it back and forth
[04:52] <dabaR> michi: ^ says.
[04:52] <jimurine> what do you mean by that foam?
[04:52] <Madpilot> lastnode: totem can play everything, with the right codecs...
[04:53] <lancellor> i see the hard drive but does not tell me the kind of partition
[04:53] <foampeace> jimurine: i dont know...its too complicated to explain
[04:53] <michi> dabaR,  what is with quicktime? are there native codecs availiable?
[04:54] <michi> i know that divx and xvid are supported nativ under linux
[04:54] <dabaR> michi: read the wiki
[04:54] <jdermer> i got an intel gma900 integrated video
[04:54] <jdermer> is there opengl for it ?
[04:55] <ojt> hi guys
[04:55] <foampeace> steal in windows? come outside and play
[04:55] <rigel> if you install an sata raid card, and the card's bios doesnt come up, how would i go about troubleshooting that?
[04:56] <rigel> or is it just not supported by this hw
[04:56] <rigel> i didnt see anything in the bios settings
[04:56] <rigel> ubu sees it at bootup
[04:56] <rigel> but im not sure how to go about changing the settings
[04:56] <kevin007> Still can't get 1400x1050 to work on my Dell D600
[04:57] <ghostdog> nalioth , where can i get a rar file extractor ?
[04:57] <dabaR> michi: what you are calling native you must mean there is open source codecs. There is no open source for .wmv files, and even the binary is illegal. w32 codecs can not be installed through any ubuntu repo atm, and the .deb can be gotten from a unofficial debian repository, and that is the only file that could be gotten from a debian repo. People like to recommend getting the w32codecs from mplayerhq.hu the downloads page.
[04:57] <ojt> does anybody here i can count for help?
[04:57] <dabaR> ghostdog: you can get it from synaptic. there is unrar-nonfree, and rar.
[04:57] <dabaR> ojt: no. you can ask a question, and if someone knows the answer, they will tell you.
[04:58] <michi> dabaR,  ok
[04:59] <ojt> okz
[04:59] <michi> iam just wondering why it is so diffucult, its the same on debian or suse
[04:59] <cafuego_> rigel: You shouldn't use the card's raid anyway. use the card like a normal sata controller and then use kernel software raid.
[04:59] <lancellor> any tutorial on the web about adding a second hard drive??
[05:00] <jessid> dabaR: where can i find some repositories for Ubunto
[05:00] <michi> in gentoo i type emerge w32codecs and it gets installed
[05:00] <esac> does anybody know what the shortcuts to switch between virtual desktops are in KDE ?
[05:00] <jsubl2> !sources
[05:00] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:00] <michi> lancellor,  just create the partition and mkfs it then mount it
[05:00] <cafuego_> michi: because Ubuntu (and Debian) care that the w32codecs are not free software.
[05:00] <dabaR> michi: at the mplayer page, they are not a package, afaik, and need to be put in a folder like, /usr/codecs, but I do not know this, so dont take that as granted.
[05:00] <michi> nothing special about that
[05:00] <ojt_> guys why i can't open up my firefox web browser?
[05:00] <cafuego_> dabaR: No, there is a w32codecs package. In hoary-extras, afaik.
[05:01] <cafuego_> !w32codecs
[05:01] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <pc2__> u nid 2 renstal dat ojt!
[05:01] <dabaR> yesterday there was not. cafuego.
[05:01] <kevin007> ojt: have you rebuilt your profile?
[05:01] <kevin007> I would try that first
[05:01] <kevin007> always
[05:01] <tga> lancellor, you can use cfdisk /dev/hdb to partition the drive (if the drive is hdb, primary slave)
[05:01] <michi> yeah cfdisk ist easy
[05:01] <ojt_> iim currently upgrading my ubuntu now
[05:01] <tga> lancellor, then you use mkfs to create a filesystem on, say, hdb1, hdb2, etc
[05:02] <tga> lancellor, then you add that partition to /etc/fstab to be mounted at startup
[05:02] <foampeace> how might updates be made available on a cd
[05:02] <dabaR> pc2__: why reinstall? and the person obviously cant even speak english great, and you speak l33t.
[05:02] <foampeace> or on a usb drive
[05:02] <ghostdog> dabaRi tried to open a rar file it gave an error could not open file
[05:03] <ghostdog> dabaR: tried to open a rar file it gave an error could not open file
[05:03] <user_> hi
[05:03] <freeman_08> just want to ask... how can i install an new program?
[05:03] <lancellor> apreciate it your help but if i knew how to do that i would not be here with all your respect
[05:03] <kevin007> kk
[05:03] <dabaR> ghostdog: I tried to open is concept, tell me what command exactl did you do?
[05:03] <user_> hi
[05:03] <ghostdog> dabaR: i just double clicked it
[05:04] <michi> ghostdog,  ok
[05:04] <michi> thats it
[05:04] <ghostdog> dabaR: i'm a mud in linux
[05:04] <freeman_08> k... tnx
[05:04] <michi> your desktop does not know how to open the rar file
[05:04] <ghostdog> dabaR: i'm a dum  in linux
[05:04] <tga> ghostdog, use rar -x archive.rar from the console
[05:04] <ogulcan> hi all i a newbie and i am using ubuntu
[05:04] <michi> ghostdog,  or install file-roller if you want a graphical tool
[05:04] <ogulcan> and how can i install kobete
[05:04] <tga> ghostdog, sudo apt-get install rar if you don't have it
[05:05] <tga> ogulcan, it's kopete and you'll need half of kde with it
[05:05] <mahangu> the letter e is being repeated in ever shell or program i open
[05:05] <cafuego_> freeman_08: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager (type YOUR password) -> Search and install.
[05:05] <tga> ogulcan, I suggest you use gaim
[05:05] <ogulcan> i downloaded KDE too
[05:05] <Madpilot> mahangu: got a stuck "e" key on your keyboard?
[05:05] <michi> ok
[05:05] <mahangu> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:05] <user_> 1234
[05:05] <tga> ogulcan, use synaptic then
[05:05] <ogulcan> and how can i install them
[05:05] <mahangu> Madpilot: the last time it was 3
[05:05] <mahangu> before i rebooted
[05:05] <cafuego_> ghostdog: You'll most likely need unrar-nonfree, which I think is in the 'universe' repository.
[05:06] <freeman_08> anyone here from the philippines?
[05:06] <Antioch> Anyone know how to get mp3/mpeg playback?
[05:06] <cafuego_> !restrictedFormats
[05:06] <tga> !restricted-formats
[05:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:06] <ubotu> tga: No idea
[05:06] <Madpilot> mahangu: sounds like a dying kb - my previous did something similar when I poured a mug of tea over it...
[05:06] <ghostdog> i download the file using synaptic
[05:06] <mahangu> Madpilot: im holdimg dowm backspace to type this
[05:06] <rigel> cafuego_ i dont want to use the raid anyhow, its just the cheapest ata133 controller i can find. i have a 200gb hd and am running into the 137gb limit
[05:06] <Antioch> Thanks
[05:06] <cafuego_> Antioch: Check that url.
[05:06] <mahangu> Madpilot: shite
[05:06] <ogulcan> any one can help me
[05:06] <ogulcan> any one can help me
[05:06] <blank> what's your poblem
[05:07] <tga> ogulcan, what is the problem?
[05:07] <cafuego_> rigel: *nod* Does it show up in 'lspci' ?
[05:07] <robotgeek> ogulcan: asking repeatedly will not help!
[05:07] <mahangu> ah
[05:07] <rigel> cafuego_ 0000:00:11.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3249 (rev 50)
[05:07] <ogulcan> tga : i downloaded KDE and kopete how can i install them
[05:07] <joyce> hi
[05:07] <mahangu> this sucks
[05:07] <Madpilot> does anyone know how I can find out where Enemy Territory hides it's .desktop file?
[05:07] <tga> ogulcan, how did you download kde?
[05:07] <cafuego_> ogulcan: 'sudo apt-get install kopete'. You should not have downloaded anything.
[05:08] <tga> ogulcan, and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde
[05:08] <Kalidarn> hmm ubuntuguide.org is down, anyone got a copy of the complete TGZ?
[05:08] <ogulcan> i downloaded kdenetwork-3.4.1
[05:08] <Kalidarn> (never grabbed it before it went down)
[05:08] <dabaR> for new people, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome may help.
[05:09] <cafuego_> ogulcan: You never bneed to downlaod anything. Use Synaptic, it's in your System menu.
[05:09] <Kalidarn> im talking about the popular unnoficial one, at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:09] <tga> !tell Kalidarn about ubuntuguide
[05:09] <ogulcan> where
[05:09] <Madpilot> Kalidarn: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:09] <robotgeek> tga: too fast for me!
[05:09] <jdermer> i got an intel gma900 integrated video
[05:09] <jdermer> is there opengl for it ?
[05:09] <Kalidarn> hmm okay then.
[05:10] <lancellor> sudo mkfs
[05:10] <Kalidarn> !faq
[05:10] <ubotu> I guess faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[05:11] <ogulcan> cafuego: what i must to start kopete
[05:11] <ogulcan> cafuego: what i must do to start kopete
[05:11] <Toma--> oh glorious ubotu, where can i find gxmame for ubuntu package?
[05:11] <ojt_> guys, why i cant open up my firefox web browser?
[05:11] <michi> jdermer,  look in the drivers readme
[05:11] <dabaR> ogulcan: is kde installed?
[05:11] <tga> ogulcan, get it from the Internet menu or from the console
[05:11] <Madpilot> !info gxmame
[05:12] <michi> jdermer,  but i think most xfree/xorg drivers do only support software rendering
[05:12] <Toma-> !info gxmame
[05:12] <ogulcan> i don't know how can i understand
[05:12] <Madpilot> Toma-: "no such package", sez ubotu...
[05:12] <Toma-> damn it.
[05:12] <ksmurf> hello all....... what happened to the backports?  there gone? (extras?)
[05:12] <dabaR> ogulcan: do you know how to install anything?
[05:12] <tritium> chill out, Toma-
[05:12] <Toma-> :P
[05:12] <tritium> :)
[05:12] <jabra> has anyone gotten mp4's to play nicely with xmms?
[05:13] <joebu23> quick question
[05:13] <jabra> ma4's?
[05:13] <dabaR> jabra: yes, have the xmms-mp4 package installed?
[05:13] <ksmurf> I keep losing my damn connection at this hotel......
[05:13] <jabra> where can I find it?
[05:13] <jabra> been looking
[05:13] <joebu23> why does my system sometimes lock when starting hotplug subsystem
[05:13] <dabaR> jabra did you search for xmms through the packaging system? what repos do you have enabled?
[05:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone here have dvdrip installed on hoary 64 bit?
[05:14] <ksmurf> good question joebu23.... when u figure it out let us know (just joking)
[05:14] <Toma-> joebu23: id say somethings wrong with hotplug. but thats just me.
[05:14] <kevin007> you mean m4as
[05:15] <joebu23> just wondering smurf, I'm still a linux newb
[05:15] <jabra> don't have the repo with xmms-mp4
[05:15] <Toma-> m4as are just fancy mp3s ight?
[05:15] <kevin007> I just use gnormalize to run a lame command to turn them to mp3s
[05:15] <tga> joebu23, sounds like trouble with the usb drivers, heh
[05:15] <jabra> was recently looking for source to build
[05:15] <ksmurf> so am I.  What distro are you using?
[05:15] <jabra> but I if you have the repo for mp4's that would be aweome
[05:15] <kevin007> the only way I get m4as is after I strip DRM from the iTMS songs I get
[05:15] <dabaR> jabra: enable everything, probably in multiverse is where xmms-mp4 would be.
[05:15] <kevin007> true
[05:16] <ksmurf> what version of ubuntu
[05:16] <joebu23> ubuntu 5.10
[05:16] <Madpilot> ogulcan: you should be able to start Firefox by using the Applications menu --> Internet --> Firefox Web Browser
[05:16] <kevin007> so what is the official date for Breezy again?  Oct. 1?
[05:16] <jabra> so something like deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse
[05:16] <jabra> dabaR: your awesome
[05:16] <tritium> s/your/you're
[05:16] <tritium> ;)
[05:16] <jabra> I had that just had it set to warty not hoary
[05:16] <ghostdog> where can i get a gui on rar ?
[05:17] <dabaR> jabra: ya, I know...hah
[05:17] <Madpilot> back later, all
[05:17] <ksmurf> joebu23 waht platform... kernel ectra
[05:17] <Toma-> ghostdog: fileroller
[05:17] <jabra> dabaR++
[05:17] <carthik> Madpilot, i'll watch this place when you are away - have fun
[05:17] <dabaR> :)
[05:17] <jabra> # being awesome
[05:17] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone here have dvdrip installed on hoary 64 bit? anybody...please?
[05:17] <robotgeek> carthik: hi
[05:17] <digitalfox|sleep> how do I prevent services from starting?
[05:18] <kevin007> not me.  I've never used 64bit
[05:18] <Toma-> Sonny_Wertzik: i wish. i tried to get ranscode but it freakd out when trying to install :(
[05:18] <robotgeek> carthik: nice work with ubuntu wordpress
[05:18] <x_o1> Is it possible to give an X11 a "null" display?  I need to run an app and fool it into thinking it has an X11 context in which to run, but I don't want to X11 forward my SSH session.
[05:18] <dabaR> ok, I gotta do constructive stuff, though. Well, this is somewhat constructive, but I gotta do school related things.
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> I have apache installed, for instance, but I don't want it to start every time I boot up
[05:18] <kevin007> Wow there are a lot of questions in this channel compared to most
[05:18] <kevin007> LOL
[05:18] <Sonny_Wertzik> Toma-, heh souds familiar
[05:18] <tga> digitalfox|sleep, sudo update-rc.d -f apache remove for example
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> oh
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> awesome
[05:18] <joebu23> smurf, where do I find that info?
[05:18] <joebu23> sorry
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> thanks tga :)
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> looks a lot like Gentoo's rc-update
[05:18] <digitalfox|sleep> :D
[05:19] <Sonny_Wertzik> Toma-, are u using something else thats comparable to dvdrip?
[05:19] <durt> how can antialiasing be enabled with an nvidia card?
[05:19] <tga> digitalfox|sleep, the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d pointing at scripts in /etc/init.d do all the work
[05:19] <Toma-> acidrip
[05:19] <kevin007> nvidia has a panel built into their driver.   I forgot the command for it though
[05:19] <carthik> robotgeek, thank you!
[05:20] <kevin007> something like nv-panel on the command line
[05:20] <Toma-> uses mencoder rather than transcode
[05:20] <ksmurf> joebu23 uname -s
[05:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> durt, type nvidia-settings in a terminal window
[05:20] <robotgeek> carthik: already got some useful stuff off there
[05:20] <carthik> robotgeek, it is a pretty stupid task - trawl mailing lists and write up interesting stuff - is all it is
[05:20] <durt> oh thanks guys, i just noticed that option ;)
[05:21] <carthik> robotgeek, good to know it is useful - everytime i read something useful at the mailing list, i used to want to write it down :)
[05:21] <pestilence> anybody have any hardware recommendations for use with ubuntu?  i just want something that has a reasonable bus and ide controller
[05:21] <hygl> hi,somehow the .iso image I have downloaded is broken, how can I update/fix it with rync?
[05:21] <robotgeek> carthik: :)
[05:21] <joebu23> smurf, that just says "Linux" back to me
[05:21] <robotgeek> carthik: hey, u got the wordpress invite, not me :)
[05:21] <durt> does it require restarting x to take effect?
[05:21] <Toma-> hygl: should have used bittorrent to get it ;)
[05:21] <ssdd65> can i upgrade my hoary to brezzy with out losing all my data?
[05:21] <carthik> robotgeek, uh oh - I invited a bunch of folks, one of them could invite you i guess...
[05:22] <tga> ssdd65, why would you want to do that?
[05:22] <carthik> ssdd65, yes you can
[05:22] <tga> ssdd65, you do know breezy is not a stable release yet, right?
[05:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> Toma-, do you know another program like dvdrip that works?
[05:22] <ssdd65> i know
[05:22] <robotgeek> carthik: does it allow photos too?
[05:22] <tga> Sonny_Wertzik, vobcopy then mencoder
[05:22] <carthik> robotgeek, a 100 gig
[05:22] <ssdd65> just wanted to know so when it comes out....
[05:22] <Toma-> Sonny_Wertzik: yeh i said acidrip... it uses mencoder rather than transcode
[05:22] <carthik> hah! i wish - 100 mb
[05:22] <robotgeek> carthik: please an invite :)
[05:22] <hygl> Toma-: does not help me now, how do I use an ubuntu rsync server?
[05:22] <Sonny_Wertzik> ahhh ok thanx Toma
[05:22] <ssdd65> how would i do it?
[05:23] <Toma-> hygl: no idea
[05:23] <carthik> robotgeek, #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:23] <carthik> hygl, what do you want to use it for?
[05:23] <jabra> hmm doesn't seem to be able to play .ma4's
[05:23] <ksmurf> joebu23 uname -nmosvr
[05:23] <lancellor> i think i did it mount my second hard drive
[05:23] <esac> anybody having problems with ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net .. I am trying to run an apt-get update, and it keeps timing out, sometimes succeeds, but fails a lot
[05:24] <hygl> carthik: I want to fix my broken iso download with it.
[05:24] <ksmurf> esac yes it's down
[05:24] <joebu23> smurf: 2.6.12-8-386
[05:24] <ascher> anyone can teach me how to install yahoo messenger in Ubunntu
[05:24] <ksmurf> where does it freeze
[05:25] <carthik> hygl, did you download it without using a torrent?
[05:25] <Toma-> is ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net working from anywhere else?
[05:25] <esac> ksmurf: is this a new development, or has it been this way for a while and i shouldn't try again in an hour ?
[05:25] <ksmurf> toma... pm me
[05:25] <ghostdog> nalioth where can i get fileroller?
[05:25] <esac> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras Release.gpg
[05:25] <esac>   Temporary failure resolving 'ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net'
[05:25] <robotgeek> ghostdog: i beliebe it's file-roller
[05:25] <Toma-> dang.
[05:25] <carthik> hygl, in any case, the iso image is one file, so i dont think resumin using rsync will serve your purpose
[05:25] <lancellor> now how do i make it write and read i tried   sudo chmod 777 /mnt/storage    but did not work
[05:26] <Agrajag> lancellor: what filesystem is it?
[05:26] <ghostdog> robotgeek it doesnt support rar files
[05:26] <robotgeek> ghostdog: get unrar-nonfree
[05:27] <lancellor> fat32
[05:27] <tga> ghostdog, get rar
[05:27] <bob2> lancellor: that's not how file system work
[05:27] <bob2> esac: ask on the forums, none the backport people are ever here, afaict
[05:27] <Agrajag> oh, then try setting umask to 0000 in /etc/fstab
[05:27] <Agrajag> for that mountpoint
[05:27] <tga> umask=0 is enough
[05:28] <lancellor> http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10485  this is what i did
[05:28] <carthik> esc, use a different backports mirror, the acm one works for me...
[05:28] <brownie17> hey everyone, should my micrphone work if i don't have drivers for my sound card but my sound card works?
[05:29] <lancellor> i munt it and tells me the right size on the disk but i can't write to it
[05:29] <carthik> esac, ^^^
[05:29] <ghostdog> k tnx
[05:29] <bob2> brownie17: if it works, you have drivers
[05:29] <tga> lancellor, your fstab line should read /dev/hd[whatever]  /mnt/storage vfat defaults,umask=0 0 0
[05:29] <esac> carthik: can you pmsg me your sources.list line, im not familiar with the mirrors
[05:29] <brownie17> bob2, well generic ones, but should my mic work?
[05:29] <ojt> guys,why does my fedora wont run when i installed ubuntu?
[05:29] <ascher> can i install chikka in linux ubuntu?
[05:30] <bob2> brownie17: there's no such thing as "generic" sound drivers
[05:30] <tga> lancellor, vfat doesn't support file permissions so you set a single umask for the whole mountpoint
[05:30] <bob2> ojt: you need to be a lot more specific about what "wont run" means
[05:30] <lancellor> that will allow mw to read write??
[05:30] <brownie17> bob2, well i didn't install any drivers, and my sound card works fine
[05:30] <tritium> ascher, you can run the chikka-lite (java) version after installing java
[05:30] <lancellor> where is that fstab file
[05:30] <bob2> brownie17: yes, ubuntu includes drivers for basically all hardware in common use
[05:30] <bob2> (aside from shitty broadcom cards)
[05:30] <ascher> thanks
[05:30] <tritium> lancellor, /etc
[05:30] <bob2> brownie17: and your microphone should work, yes
[05:30] <tga> lancellor, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:31] <bob2> ojt: please don't /msg me
[05:31] <brownie17> bob2, hahaha i didnbt have it plugged in
[05:31] <lancellor> got it
[05:31] <tga> ojt, maybe the bootloader installed by ubuntu doesn't know about your fedora
[05:31] <hygl> carthik: so how do I fix it?
[05:31] <ojt> how can i fixed it?
[05:32] <bob2> does fedora use an initd?
[05:32] <brownie17> bob2, when i go to use sound recorder to record sound, it goes "ALSA device "default" had an error
[05:32] <sudonim> bob2: Ubuntu has drivers for my broadcom card built into my Asus A7V8X
[05:32] <ksmurf> this is funny..... the best wifi reception in my hotel room is in the bathroom
[05:32] <jjazz_> I have samba up and running on an Ubuntu box, and I can print to it from my debian box.  But my WinXP box lets me install the printer and select a driver, but then it says access denied and unable to connect.  Googling the error doesn't tell me how to solve it.  Anybody have any bright ideas?
[05:33] <bob2> sudonim: wired nic?
[05:33] <brownie17> ksmurf, hahah, because it's designed so you can use it to look up porn
[05:33] <sudonim> yeah 10/100
[05:33] <netbugz> LOL coz all the conductor is in there
[05:33] <trigger_ph> hi everyone. quick q...does totem need proprietary plugins for it to read VCDs?
[05:33] <netbugz> hehehehhehe
[05:33] <tritium> ksmurf, don't even tell me you're using the laptop while you're on the can...
[05:33] <netbugz> like water
[05:33] <carthik> hygl, you have to download it again....
[05:33] <bob2> sudonim: yeah, wired ones have drivers, it's just the wireless ones that do not
[05:33] <ksmurf> sorry no more potty talk from me
[05:33] <sudonim> oh, whoops - jumped in in the middle of that one :)
[05:34] <bob2> trigger_ph: just use mplayer
[05:34] <ksmurf> tritium... war sh*tt*ng.... kinda lick war driving
[05:34] <ksmurf> like
[05:34] <volvoguy> well, i made it in here a little earlier tonight. is the person that was helping me with gpart the other day around?
[05:34] <bob2> this sounds off-topic
[05:34] <ksmurf> sorry
[05:34] <lancellor> shnoul i reboot??
[05:34] <tritium> ksmurf, sick, dude
[05:34] <trigger_ph> bob2: that's not on the default package listing right?
[05:35] <bob2> trigger_ph: indeed, it's in multiverse. /msg ubotu repositories
[05:35] <brownie17> LANCELLOR SAID REBOOT!
[05:35] <brownie17> sorry about caps
[05:35] <bob2> lancellor: no
[05:35] <aline> btw of laptops, I have ubuntu 5.10 on an old toshiba laptop, everything is fine, exept the sleep function
[05:35] <trigger_ph> bob2: thanks! i'll check it out.
[05:35] <Agrajag> lancellor: the only time you ever need to reboot is when you update your kernel.
[05:35] <aline> after I put it to sleep, I need a cold restart
[05:35] <lancellor> shoul be mount it now??
[05:36] <bob2> aline: do file a bug
[05:36] <tga> lancellor, first umount whatever you have on that mountpoint by `sudo umount /mnt/storage`
[05:36] <Agrajag> lancellor: sudo mount -a
[05:36] <brownie17> bob2, i have a problem, when i use the "hibernate option", it works, but then i cannot bring it out again, what are you supposed to do?
[05:36] <Agrajag> should bring your mounts in sync with fstab
[05:36] <bob2> brownie17: file a bug
[05:36] <aline> brownie17 same problem here
[05:36] <esac> dang, ubuntuguide.org seems to be down as well
[05:36] <kevin007> yeah, my hibernate doesn't come out either.  Used too, but not now
[05:37] <bob2> brownie17: if you're using binary-only drivers, tho, you probably just lose
[05:37] <tga> brownie17, I have the same problem, get in line
[05:37] <esac> !java
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:37] <kevin007> video never comes up
[05:37] <bob2> suspend-to-disk is broken on my x40, too
[05:37] <bob2> so everyone not using an x40 should file a bug
[05:37] <bob2> now!
[05:37] <trigger_ph> !repositories
[05:37] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:37] <bob2> mjg59 needs more to do!
[05:37] <brownie17> bob2, file a bug report about the suspend thing or the sound thing?
[05:37] <brownie17> bob2, what is an x40?
[05:38] <tga> brownie17, it's an IBM lappy
[05:38] <brownie17> bob2, where i rport bugs?
[05:38] <benplaut> a rather good lappy, at that :P
[05:38] <brownie17> !bug reporting
[05:38] <ubotu> brownie17: I haven't a clue
[05:38] <volvoguy> bob2, i was just giving mjg59 more to do. :-)
[05:38] <bob2> brownie17: suspend breaking
[05:38] <bob2> brownie17: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:38] <jabra> after I installed  libfaad2-dev I can't load the mp4 plugin into xmms
[05:38] <lancellor> looks like is workink thanks so much...
[05:38] <brownie17> how do you report bugs?
[05:38] <tga> one fresh new bug coming up
[05:38] <brownie17> ok
[05:38] <bob2> tga: those little life books are pretty bloody cute, tho
[05:38] <bob2> volvoguy: haha
[05:38] <jabra> dabaR, thoughts?
[05:39] <tga> brownie17, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <lancellor> so every time i turn my computer will mount my storage drive??
[05:39] <tga> bob2, I have an S-series lifebook and I had a few hardware problems with it, support hasn't been great either
[05:39] <tga> lancellor, if it's correctly specified in /etc/fstab, yes
[05:40] <TeamCriptaCorp> #ubuntu-es
[05:40] <tga> lancellor, you'll notice that's how your / file system is nounted
[05:40] <tga> TeamCriptaCorp, Bad command or file name
[05:40] <bob2> tga: ah, ok
[05:40] <lancellor> yes
[05:40] <bob2> lancellor: if it's in /etc/fstab and has "auto" in the options field, yes
[05:40] <tga> or 'defaults'
[05:41] <tga> isn't 'auto' a default option?
[05:41] <brownie17> bob2, how are you supposed to bring it out of "suspend-to-disk"?
[05:41] <lancellor> no should i type auto???
[05:41] <blank> has it happened to anyone that you install the ati drivers and it doesn't seem like they're actually running, like any 3D is laggy and stuff
[05:41] <tga> lancellor, you're okay if you have "defaults" in there
[05:41] <blank> I did fglrxconfig and all
[05:41] <ojt> what does these means?
[05:41] <blank> but still nothing
[05:42] <lancellor> /dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage    vfat   defaults,umask=0 0 0
[05:42] <jabra> anyone have any idea how to get mp4's to play in xmms with multiverse?
[05:42] <lancellor> this what i have
[05:42] <ojt> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-bin_1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[05:42] <ojt> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:42] <planet> hmm
[05:42] <lancellor> exactly how you told me
[05:42] <carthik> brownie17, pressing the power button on my lappie just a wee bit does it for me
[05:42] <bob2> brownie17: by booting it
[05:42] <planet> hello
[05:42] <planet> my friend
[05:42] <blank> Anyone here use ATI Graphics Cards?
[05:42] <bob2> brownie17: the kernel notices it suspened last time, and should resume
[05:42] <tga> lancellor, try a reboot, it should work
[05:43] <lancellor> thnak you
[05:43] <carthik> ojt try getting it again - md2sum mismatch means the file that was retrieved was not identifiable as the "right" file
[05:43] <lancellor> ok i'm going to reebot now se ya thanks iwill came back in a minute...
[05:43] <blank> Anyone here use the ATI proprietary drivers
[05:43] <ojt> what would i do?
[05:44] <trigger_ph> bob2: thanks for the help. got to go
[05:44] <bob2> adios
[05:44] <blank> does anyone here use ATI
[05:45] <michi> cya guys
[05:45] <michi> got to work
[05:45] <bob2> blank: it's a lot easier if you just ask your question
[05:45] <michi> :P
[05:45] <blank> I just did
[05:45] <bob2> blank: yes, lots of people use ATI
[05:45] <bob2> did you have a follow up question?
[05:45] <blank> I installed ATI drivers (I think, apt-get xorg-driver-install or something) and it seems as if they're not even running, crazy laggy, no it's not my card, I even did the fglrxconfig thing
[05:45] <blank> I've had it work on Suse once, very well, but I forgot how I did it
[05:46] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <bob2> follow that again
[05:46] <blank> for example
[05:46] <shorty114> how far out is breezy?
[05:46] <blank> I use super tux and even that lags
[05:46] <shorty114> final
[05:46] <blank> bob2, was that link to me
[05:46] <bur[n] er> shorty114: early october
[05:46] <carthik> ojt, just mention my name when you type a message, and i'll know its for me... yes, apt-get upgrade again
[05:46] <bob2> blank: yes
[05:47] <carthik> ojt, to remove the previously downloaded packages use apt-get autoclean or clean....
[05:47] <ojt> carthik: ahh sowee
[05:47] <shorty114> bur[n] er, sweet, new nickelback cd, new ubuntu version, looks like a good month ;)
[05:47] <justin-> hey everybody, just switched to ubuntu
[05:47] <carthik> ojt, no problemo
[05:47] <blank> bob2: thanks, I remember that, but I just forgot about it
[05:47] <juan1delgado1> ei need help here
[05:48] <ojt> carthik, ok i try using that
[05:48] <blank> bob2: im running breezy, do I just use the warty warthog one or hoary hedgehog
[05:48] <carthik> juan1delgado1, ask
[05:48] <jessid> chao y gracias por todo!!! Nos vemos luego!!!
[05:48] <bob2> blank: the latter, I'd think
[05:49] <blank> thanks
[05:49] <Schn311> quick question to everyone...  i am getting back into linux and i'm going with ubuntu.  should i wait till the next release to put it on my system, or can i get the current release and use the updater to get everything that the new one will have?
[05:49] <carthik> Schn311, latter
[05:49] <juan1delgado1> had error saying x window may not be installed properly go to wiki.x.org
[05:49] <Schn311> will i be able to update gnome that way?
[05:49] <blank> bob2: i already did step one yesterday, but should I start all over
[05:49] <bur[n] er> Schn311: i concur with carthik
[05:49] <juan1delgado1> had error saying x window may not be installed properly go to wiki.x.org
[05:49] <brownie17> bob2, well pressing it does nothing, and i have to reset, which just starts it normally
[05:49] <carthik> juan1delgado1, so?
[05:50] <bur[n] er> Schn311: you'll be able to do everything.. from kernel to gnome to gaim to firefox
[05:50] <Schn311> sweet
[05:50] <Schn311> thanks
[05:50] <bob2> blank: just make sure all are done
[05:50] <carthik> Schn311, never have to reinstall, at all, unless everything blows up in your face or you hard disk dies or soemthing
[05:50] <juan1delgado1> why it didn't installed properly when i was able to install it to other pc very well
[05:50] <bob2> brownie17: "have to reset"? it doesn't even power up when you hit the power button?
[05:50] <Schn311> lol
[05:50] <Schn311> yeah
[05:50] <carthik> juan1delgado1, trying to install breezy, i suppose?
[05:50] <juan1delgado1> i tried to reinstall it several times same error
[05:50] <bob2> brownie17: you're not confusing suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram, are you?
[05:51] <juan1delgado1> the new version ok
[05:51] <juan1delgado1> im downloading it now
[05:51] <juan1delgado1> another question
[05:51] <Lafy> what's a good way to burn an iso to a cd in ubuntu?
[05:51] <brownie17> bob2, i just press the "hibernate" button in the logout menu
[05:51] <juan1delgado1> on my other pc
[05:51] <bob2> Lafy: right click on it in the file manager
[05:51] <carthik> juan1delgado1, no, breezy is the next release , not stable, try hoary, and always, try the live cd first if you can to see how things will turn out before you install
[05:51] <bob2> brownie17: then the machine powers off entirely (eventually)?
[05:52] <prince29> can i install yahoo messenger in my Ubunu OS
[05:52] <brownie17> bob2, well tje power light is still on, but it doesn't make any noise
[05:52] <prince29> ?
[05:52] <brownie17> bob2, and keyboard presses do nothing
[05:52] <prince29> can i install yahoo messenger in my Ubuntu OS?
[05:52] <robotgeek> prince29: u can use gaim
[05:52] <juan1delgado1> ok i can't seem to logon with my win xp it says invalid fle system
[05:52] <juan1delgado1> this is with another pc
[05:53] <juan1delgado1> tnx
[05:53] <bob2> brownie17: how long did you leave it?
[05:53] <prince29> but i cant use my webcam there and even view my friends cam
[05:53] <bob2> oh no!
[05:53] <tritium> prince29, the linux version does not support webcams
[05:53] <tga> prince29, there is no real yahoo messenger for linux
[05:53] <justin-> heh
[05:53] <tga> lol, he didn't like that
[05:53] <ojt> anyone knows if can linux support Online Games?
[05:53] <juan1delgado1> this is with another pc
[05:53] <bur[n] er> ojt: depends on the game
[05:53] <juan1delgado1> ok i can't seem to logon with my win xp it says invalid fle system
[05:54] <juan1delgado1> nut ubuntu is ok
[05:54] <juan1delgado1> but ubuntu is ok
[05:54] <Schn311> how many install disks does ubuntu use?
[05:54] <brownie17> bob2, before i pressed the power button again? i don't know about a minute or two, could it just be slow?
[05:54] <prince29> is it possible to use a webcam in Gaim
[05:54] <bur[n] er> Schn311: 1
[05:54] <tritium> Schn311, one CD
[05:54] <prince29> is it possible to use a webcam in Gaim?
[05:54] <Schn311> thanks
[05:54] <cafuego_> Schn311: Normally just one CD, but you can also get a DVD with more stuff.
[05:54] <bob2> brownie17: it could be, sometimes it takes a lloooooong time
[05:54] <cafuego_> prince29: Not yet./
[05:54] <bob2> brownie17: leave it for 10 minutes or so if yo ucan
[05:54] <justin-> i switched to linux mostly because console games are just better nowadays
[05:55] <brownie17> bob2, yeah i'll try that. but it isn't worth doing if it takes ten minutes to do
[05:55] <ojt> can i run yahoo messenger on ubuntu?
[05:55] <justin-> yahoo messanger is crap...
[05:55] <kevin007> considering how expensive video cards still are I don't blame you for doing the console for your gaming
[05:55] <cafuego_> ojt: In theory you cna, but in practive the ymessenger deb is horrible broken.
[05:55] <blank> I installed kde-base
[05:55] <blank> how can I uninstall it
[05:55] <blank> in other words
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> ok i can't seem to logon with my win xp it says invalid fle system
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> but ubuntu is ok
[05:56] <blank> what's the inverse of apt-get install kde-base
[05:56] <tga> ojt, there are clients that canconnect to the yahoo network but you will not have audio, video, games, audibles, environments, etc
[05:56] <nalioth> blank: remove
[05:56] <brownie17> bur[n] er, hey, out of interest, how do you actually transfer th emulators to the xbox, and for what console or sytem are the emulators on there for?
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> ok i can't seem to logon with my win xp it says invalid fle system
[05:56] <bur[n] er> juan1delgado1: not sure what you're asking
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> but ubuntu is ok
[05:56] <blank> instead of install
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> at bot
[05:56] <prince29> can i install photoshop or corel draw in ubuntu?
[05:56] <tga> blank, man apt-get
[05:56] <ojt> ahh, thnx for info guys
[05:56] <prince29> can i install photoshop or corel draw in ubuntu?
[05:56] <cafuego_> ojt: gaim speaks the yahoo protocol, though.
[05:56] <bur[n] er> juan1delgado1: aww, your grub is b0rked
[05:56] <bob2> brownie17: right, but it gives you more info for the bug report :)
[05:56] <tga> prince29, not the recent versions
[05:56] <tga> prince29, not the recent versions
[05:56] <blank> apt-get remove kde-base
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> at boot up GRUB
[05:56] <blank> kay
[05:56] <bur[n] er> juan1delgado1: just use ubuntu ;)
[05:56] <juan1delgado1> hehehe
[05:56] <brownie17> bob2, yeah
[05:56] <cafuego_> prince29: Yes, but you'd need 'crossover office', which is payware.
[05:56] <bur[n] er> or edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:57] <prince29> thanks...
[05:57] <juan1delgado1> how to
[05:57] <juan1delgado1> ...
[05:57] <tritium> blank, if you use aptitude in the future, when you go to remove a package, it can also remove packages that were pulled in as dependencies
[05:57] <cafuego_> prince29: You might consider the alternativrs, gimp for bitmaps and inkscape for vector.
[05:57] <tga> cafuego, does corel draw actually work in cxoffice?
[05:57] <tga> heh, not much of an alternative
[05:57] <cafuego_> prince29: inkscape is VERY nice indeed these days, I like it better than Illustrator now.
[05:58] <cafuego_> tga: SOME version of corel probably does.
[05:58] <prince29> ahhh i c thanks cafuego
[05:58] <bur[n] er> brownie17: msg ;)
[05:59] <cafuego_> prince29: And when you pu them all together, 'scribus' can do the pre-press layout :-)
[05:59] <nalioth> tritium and ronald mcdonald are my heroes
[05:59] <blank> k
[05:59] <ojt> cafuego_, can gaim senn msg. to yahoo messenger?
[05:59] <cafuego_> ojt: Yes.
[05:59] <bur[n] er> ojt: yes
[05:59] <regeya> it'st time to not party!
[05:59] <tritium> nalioth, you're so sweet...
[05:59] <regeya> WHOOO
[05:59] <ojt> ah
[05:59] <carthik> sounds like an orgy around here
[06:00] <tga> ojt, and msn, aim, gtalk
[06:00] <justin-> haha
[06:00] <justin-> yes yes oh whoo yes ah ah yes
[06:00] <prince29> gosh it takes a long process...
[06:00] <bur[n] er> ojt: and jabber, gadu-gadu and irc
[06:00] <cafuego_> and irc, and jabber...
[06:00] <ojt> can it support webcams?
[06:00] <regeya> boom chick boom chick boom chick boom chick boom chick
[06:00] <bur[n] er> ojt: no
[06:00] <cafuego_> ojt: No, it doesn't supportw ebcams yet. Support is being worked on.
[06:00] <ojt> ahh
[06:01] <cafuego_> You REALLY don't want to have to look at most poeple in here, though ;-)
[06:01] <ojt> because in our country microsoft has an operation
[06:01] <SPCcrow> What is a good mp3 player to use with ubuntu?
[06:01] <netbugz> LOL
[06:01] <netbugz> what operation???
[06:01] <carthik> SPCcrow, what do you like in an mp3 player?
[06:01] <blank> does anyone know how to remove kde
[06:01] <regeya> SPCcrow: mpg321
[06:01] <blank> i installed kde
[06:01] <blank> but i wanna remove it
[06:01] <ojt> they search through all internet cafes and busted all non lisenced windows user
[06:01] <netbugz> General Surgery type of operation??
[06:01] <cafuego_> SPCcrow: totem, beep-media-player, rhythmbox... take your pick.
[06:01] <_n00blar_> has anyone setup a tftp server here? I think I'm close to get it to work, but I can't write files on the box where tftpd is running
[06:02] <netbugz> LOL
[06:02] <SPCcrow> cafuego_: tried rhtymbox, wouldn't play the songs
[06:02] <blank> can anyone please help me uninstalling kde
[06:02] <nalioth> blank: "sudo apt-get remove kde-base" <<<<opposite of what you asked
[06:02] <bz0b> hey guys
[06:02] <bz0b> hey its nalioth
[06:02] <regeya> I betcha if you removed libqt, blank, that'd do it
[06:02] <bz0b> yay
[06:02] <bz0b> nalioth: can you hel;p me
[06:02] <cafuego_> SPCcrow: Did you install the mp3 codec libs?
[06:02] <bur[n] er> blank: why you wanna uninstall anyway?
[06:02] <carthik> ubotu tell SPCcrow about restricted formats
[06:02] <regeya> NOT PAAAARTAY!!!!
[06:02] <bz0b> nalioth: hahaha i am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo drunk!
[06:02] <blank> cuase now the main logon screen is kubuntu
[06:02] <nalioth> bz0b: if it's about your sudoers, maybe
[06:02] <regeya> everybody get SANE!  everybody get SOBER!
[06:02] <blank> :"(
[06:02] <tritium> bz0b, that is so offtopic
[06:02] <regeya> it's a NOT PARTY!
[06:02] <blank> brb
[06:03] <jdermer> a lot of people love firefox... i dont get it.. i always have probs with it... be it on linux or windows
[06:03] <justin-> on a lighter note, sproingies is a cool screen saver
[06:03] <bz0b> nalioth: i fixwed that
[06:03] <bur[n] er> !tell SPCcrow about restrictedformats
[06:03] <bz0b> yyayay
[06:03] <cafuego_> blank: You cna still choose to log in to Gnome from that login window.
[06:03] <bur[n] er> jdermer: you're kidding?
[06:03] <nalioth> bz0b: so what can i help you with?
[06:03] <bob2> jdermer: please do file bugs!
[06:03] <jdermer> nope
[06:03] <cafuego_> justin-: Did Qbert make you say that?
[06:03] <bz0b> nalioth: you had said apples didnt come with pcmcia
[06:03] <netbugz> firefox is 64bit Iexplore is 128 bit
[06:03] <justin-> no.....
[06:03] <nalioth> bz0b: i said ibooks dont come with pcmcia
[06:03] <bz0b> nalioth: and i just saw my teachers 17inch powerbook with one today
[06:03] <bz0b> nalioth: oh
[06:04] <nalioth> bz0b: i dont own any powerbooks
[06:04] <ojt> why does my firefox web browser wont run?
[06:04] <bz0b> nalioth: does the 12 inch powerbook have ne?
[06:04] <tga> ojt, did you install it?
[06:04] <bob2> what would a "128 bit" browswer mean?
[06:04] <cafuego_> bz0b: Yes, one.
[06:04] <nalioth> bz0b: on that i'm not sure
[06:04] <ojt> tga, yup
[06:04] <bur[n] er> lol @ tga
[06:04] <bur[n] er> ojt: get any errors?
[06:04] <bz0b> nalioth: yeah i aint rich! i cant afford no freaking powerbook
[06:04] <jdermer> like sometimes firefox will just seem to lock up. like the program is responsive but if i were to type an addy in the address bar and hit enter nothing would happen
[06:04] <cafuego_> bz0b: You cna verify that by going to the Apple website.
[06:04] <tga> ojt, try running 'firefox' in a terminal and see what error you get
[06:04] <prince29> gosh it takes a long process...?
[06:04] <justin-> firefox worked for me immediately
[06:04] <prince29> ?
[06:04] <prince29> .
[06:04] <bz0b> but it aint on the dman specs man!
[06:04] <psusi> firefox supports 128 bit ssl if that's what you were refering to
[06:04] <ojt> tga, i can click the icon, but wont load
[06:04] <cafuego_> bz0b: Lacking pcmcia, a 12" iBook can use USB wifi, though.
[06:04] <ojt> tga,okz
[06:05] <nalioth> bz0b: if you pull off your whiskey glasses, it is there in the specs
[06:05] <cafuego_> My firefox does 256bit TLS actually.
[06:05] <tga> stop clicking icons and get busy
[06:05] <bz0b> nalioth: man, i wish the apple store was open right now, i wanna go buy an apple damnit!
[06:05] <cafuego_> Not, admittedly, with IIS hosted sites, but with apache ones it does.
[06:05] <carthik> bz0b, store.apple.com ?
[06:05] <cafuego_> bz0b: Just order it online.
[06:05] <netbugz> buy an APPLE then eat it
[06:05] <bz0b> cafuego_: oh yeah, my firefox does C++ when its sipping bacardi!
[06:05] <netbugz> LOL
[06:05] <Lafy> are there any command line cd burning programs packaged with ubuntu besides cdrecord?
[06:05] <tga> online commerce when drunk.. not a good idea
[06:06] <cafuego_> Lafy: No
[06:06] <tga> Lafy, k3b, eroaster
[06:06] <carthik> Lafy, search in synaptic?
[06:06] <regeya> meh.
[06:06] <netbugz> gnome
[06:06] <bz0b> tga: good idea
[06:06] <nalioth> tga: esp when TWO ups trucks show up
[06:06] <regeya> boom chacka boom chacka boom chacka boom chacka
[06:06] <netbugz> use its filebrowser
[06:06] <cafuego_> Lafy: And all the GUI ones use cdrecord as back-end anyway.
[06:06] <netbugz> ryt klik on the ISO
[06:06] <ojt> tga, wew i can run it in terminal
[06:06] <carthik> General Question - is there a how things work in Ubuntu document?
[06:06] <bur[n] er> any ops around?   I for oen am sick of boom chacka
[06:06] <ojt> tga,but in desktop wont work
[06:06] <tga> ojt, your icon calls the wrong thing then
[06:06] <bur[n] er> carthik: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <ojt> tga,ah
[06:07] <nalioth> bur[n] er: boom chacka?
[06:07] <cafuego_> Lafy: What are you trying to do?
[06:07] <ojt> tga,how can i correct it?
[06:07] <justin-> any ops at all is the question
[06:07] <psusi> not that it really matters... I mean the odds on someone sniffing your network traffic are quite low... let alone sniffing it and then attempting to crack an ssl connection
[06:07] <tritium> yes, but what for?
[06:07] <Lafy> cafuego_: burn an iso to a cd from a command line...
[06:07] <bur[n] er> nalioth: look at regeya's last couple posts
[06:07] <tga> hmm.. not sure.. the menu item should Just Work
[06:07] <bz0b> cafuego_: so i should get the 17inch powerbook with 2gb ram and all the software and accessories!
[06:07] <nalioth> quite
[06:07] <bz0b> nalioth: yeah!
[06:07] <nalioth> folks, lets get back on topic here, please
[06:07] <ojt> tga,heres an erros
[06:07] <carthik> bur[n] er, document - that explains how things work - i know the wiki exists, i am looking for a simple 1000 word document that should tell ubuntu users how things are to be installed, how things are managed, where the files are etc - else i will write it now
[06:07] <tga> bz0b, get one of me too, will ya? I'll msg you the address
[06:07] <bz0b> yeah what nalioth says
[06:07] <cafuego_> Lafy: 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -v -eject -data foo.iso'  (where hdc is whatever your CDR device is)
[06:08] <Lafy> cdrecord keeps complaining that /dev/pg* doesn't exist
[06:08] <bz0b> tga: but you have to pay for shipping!
[06:08] <bur[n] er> carthik: u check the new user documentation on the wiki?
[06:08] <nalioth> musical notation, drunken shopping sprees and all else not related to ubunt help can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <tga> bz0b, $3k shipping by any chance?
[06:08] <ojt> tga,(firefox-bin:9161): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:08] <ojt> (firefox-bin:9161): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:08] <carthik> bur[n] er, i havent post reorganization
[06:08] <regeya> bur[n] er, settle down, it was exactly two lines.  that's the same number of lines you devoted to bitching about it.  had you asked me I would have stopped, instead you had to be a dick about it and raise the ire of both an op, and of me.
[06:08] <cafuego_> Lafy: It complains about pg* when you don't pass it a correct device param.
[06:08] <blank> my drivers say they're all right, supposedly, but when I run supertux with opengl it lags like crazy
[06:08] <Lafy> oh
[06:08] <Lafy> ok
[06:08] <bz0b> tga: oh, just remmebered apple has free shipping i think
[06:08] <auk> what version of firefox will be packaged with 5.10?
[06:08] <bz0b> tga: pm me your address
[06:08] <blank> what's that sled tux game, that your tux rides a sled
[06:08] <cafuego_> Lafy: What I typed will work, provided you use the right device file.
[06:09] <bob2> auk: what's the latest release?
[06:09] <bob2> auk: 1.0.6, afaik
[06:09] <cafuego_> blank: tuxracer?
[06:09] <tga> ojt, that is a warning, not an error
[06:09] <tritium> bur[n] er, which boom chaka?
[06:09] <tga> bz0b, will you ship to PO boxes?
[06:09] <nalioth> tritium: regeya was 'singing' earlier
[06:09] <cafuego_> Apple don't ship to PO boxes
[06:09] <Schn311> when i am installing the various distro's i've used it always asks for parameters i want to pass to the kernel... is this something that i would possibly have use for?  or is it only for very advanced users?
[06:09] <bz0b> umm, what the hell man, i am drunk off my a** and like i feel like singning now!
[06:09] <carthik> Ubuntu should really add it's own certificates into firefox... its a pain to have to say yes each time i visit the wiki
[06:09] <auk> bob2: 1.0.6, but 1.5 (beta) is not at all unstable
[06:09] <ojt> tga, is there something wrong with it?
[06:09] <Lafy> cafuego_: so -scanbus just doesn't work?
[06:09] <tritium> nalioth, ah, okay
[06:09] <blank> not tuxracer, is it? the one in the snow
[06:09] <nalioth> apple talk to ##apple or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:10] <bz0b> tga: umm  god, it wont fit in the PO box
[06:10] <cafuego_> Schn311: The kernel is pretty clever these days, you shouldn't need params unless you have odd hardware.
[06:10] <bob2> auk: but not actually released yet
[06:10] <regeya> nalioth, bur[n] er, I must point out that the griping about past transgressions is also offtopic.
[06:10] <bz0b> ok, i am going to #apple!
[06:10] <auk> bob2: :(
[06:10] <auk> 1.5 is ssooooooo frikin fast
[06:10] <Schn311> so cd burning and such are no longer need to be passed
[06:10] <auk> :)
[06:10] <cafuego_> Lafy: scanbus works, provided you tell it to use the ATAPI: bus.
[06:10] <auk> i wish...
[06:11] <bur[n] er> carthik: try here... and add to it :)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuide
[06:11] <psusi> so what's the deal with dvd burning support?  I read that the maker of cdrecord decided to withhold dvd support from the open source version and made a comercial product to do it
[06:11] <regeya> auk, talking about firefox?  agreed, but I'm waiting for more plugin devs to port to 1.5. :)
[06:11] <cafuego_> Lafy: it traditionally whines about pg* when you don't specific atapi and don't have the scsi emulation modules loaded. Just telling it to use /dev/hdX works fine with 2.6 kernels, though.
[06:11] <cafuego_> Lafy: (using scsi emu with 2.6 is not recommended)
[06:12] <auk> anyoen have a nice, thourough link to somehtign explaining the philosophy of not updating software till next release?
[06:12] <regeya> auk...
[06:12] <agent> i need to find out my ap's ip address. how do i do this? my internet connection (using ap) works
[06:12] <psusi> auk: you mean as opposed to beta testing?
[06:12] <auk> regeya: yes?
[06:12] <regeya> auk, sorry, looking.  I've seen it before.
[06:13] <psusi> agent: ask ipconfig what your default gateway is
[06:13] <auk> psusi: i mean, when ff 1.5 actually does come out, i won't get to see the new features till ubuntu 'dapper' comes out
[06:13] <auk> regeya: cool
[06:13] <psusi> auk: or you can just install the ff 1.5 package when it comes out for ubunto
[06:13] <auk> psusi: adn then you get compatibility issues with upgrading to 'dapper' w/ apt
[06:14] <gfunckers> how to save a file to my floopy drive ?
[06:14] <regeya> auk: unless of course you happen to use backports, which isn't officially recommended and has been rumored to cause problems, though I've not yet met anyone who's had major problems with a backport.
[06:14] <blank> hey my drivers seem to work now
[06:14] <blank> i ran planepenguin and it doesn't lag at all, i still wonder why supertux does though
[06:15] <agent> psusi, what do you mean by ipconfig?
[06:15] <freeman_08> how come i cant share my HDD? it says that i need to install samba or NFS yet i already could see computers with windows OS
[06:16] <gfunckers> how to share my printer, and how to save a file to my floopy disk ?
[06:16] <auk> stupid xchat
[06:16] <auk> anyway, i've had severe problems with backports
[06:16] <auk> i couldn't upgrade from warty to hoary
[06:16] <blank> wow guys i love you all my drivers work now
[06:16] <psusi> agent: man ipconfig
[06:16] <AngryParsley> yeah, my XP CD was scratched, so I went to the computer lab and burned an ubuntu CD
[06:17] <agent> psusi, are you sure its ipconfig? ifconfig and iwconfig i know about, but i dont remember ipconfig (also, no man page for ipconfig)
[06:17] <psusi> freeman_08: because samba is the server program that shares files in a way that windows boxesn can see it
[06:17] <AngryParsley> I'm impressed with the ease of use compared to other linux distros
[06:17] <psusi> oh damnit... that's right... it's ifconfig in linux... ;)
[06:17] <AngryParsley> heh
[06:17] <psusi> used to saying ipconfig
[06:18] <auk> regeya: any luck w/ that link?
[06:18] <agent> psusi, :)
[06:18] <freeman_08> do i really need to download it to see my ubuntu folders? isn't it included in my ubuntu 5.04 installer?
[06:18] <DansFloyd> hey, i installed dvd author... but for some reaon i get this error: "Cannot launch entry
[06:18] <DansFloyd> Details: Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/qdvdauthor" (No such file or directory)" anyone know why? i used synaptic to install...
[06:19] <adrian_> what's that one other repository, the universe one
[06:19] <esac> Kubuntu comes with amaroK 1.2.3 .. breezy comes with 1.2.4 .. yet 1.3.1 is the newest. if i want the newest do i just have to install from source ?
[06:19] <freeman_08> do i really need to download samba to see my ubuntu folders? isn't it included in my ubuntu 5.04 installer?
[06:19] <nalioth> DansFloyd: seems "qdvdauthor" isnt present on your box
[06:19] <freeman_08> or NFS?
[06:19] <ojt> guys, what does these means? Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:19] <ojt>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14_i386.deb
[06:19] <ojt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:19] <SySiphus> is this a room where i might ask for help?
[06:19] <rob^> Fred|Fr3d, what are you trying to do?
[06:19] <adrian_> hey angry games
[06:19] <adrian_> i got my ati drivers to work
[06:19] <rob^> freeman_08, what are you trying to do?
[06:19] <angry_games> lol
[06:19] <adrian_> have you?
[06:19] <angry_games> no
[06:20] <adrian_> i'll help you tomorrow
[06:20] <angry_games> i gave up and installed a 6600GT instead
[06:20] <adrian_> what's your msn
[06:20] <adrian_> <---blank
[06:20] <freeman_08> i want to see my other computers at network
[06:20] <angry_games><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:20] <auk> SySiphus: read the topic :)
[06:20] <adrian_> add me, im not on my computer
[06:20] <DansFloyd> how do you get ati drivers to work>
[06:20] <adrian_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:20] <DansFloyd> ?
[06:20] <freeman_08> just like network neighborhood in windows
[06:20] <angry_games> now i can't get 3d acceleration to work on my 6600GT
[06:20] <rob^> freeman_08, are they windows pcs?
[06:20] <adrian_> anyone that wants help on installing ati drivers, add me on msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i'll tell you tomorrow
[06:20] <adrian_> or email me
[06:20] <adrian_> either way
[06:20] <adrian_> c ya
[06:20] <freeman_08> i dont see any ubuntu computers working in my network places... using ubuntu also
[06:20] <SySiphus> ok so im not all that observant
[06:21] <angry_games> adrian_,  i just added you to my second msn that is running on this linux box
[06:21] <rob^> !samba
[06:21] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:21] <rob^> freeman_08, check out the urls ubuntu just said
[06:21] <angry_games> when i first installed ubuntu 5.10 this time with a 6600GT...it wouldnt even run X server
[06:21] <rob^> ubotu that is
[06:21] <ubotu> rob^: Are you on ritalin?
[06:21] <SySiphus> could someone tell me what to do about the installation disk giving a strange error?
[06:21] <billytwowilly> well, my group's ubuntu installfest was a success. We did over 20 installs total. check out the pics here: http://members.shaw.ca/quilley/
[06:22] <freeman_08> *i need to see ubuntu - ubuntu... not ubuntu - windows
[06:22] <angry_games> corrupted screen...i fooled and fooled with it, and finally got the nvidia logo to come up and get to hte desktop...but now i cant get 3d acceleration to work just like last night
[06:22] <MIkee> hello
[06:22] <rob^> !nfs
[06:22] <rob^> ubotu tell freeman_08 about nfs
[06:22] <adrian_> okay angry_games, see ya tomorrow
[06:22] <adrian_> anyone know what the other repository is
[06:22] <rob^> ubotu tell freeman_08 about samba
[06:22] <Mikee> hello can anyone help me on how to install java?
[06:22] <angry_games> adrian_,  aight mang
[06:22] <rob^> freeman_08, they are your choices
[06:23] <esac> has anybody ever installed the terminus font ? i can't seem to get it to work
[06:23] <BlueEagle> !tell mikee about java
[06:23] <freeman_08> tnx bro
[06:23] <rob^> np
[06:23] <ashwani> Hi ALL
[06:23] <freeman_08> !samba
[06:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:23] <freeman_08> !NFS
[06:24] <carthik> hi ashwani
[06:24] <ashwani> do anybody knows how to make a normal user a sudo user
[06:24] <freeman_08> !nfs
[06:24] <ashwani> hello carthik
[06:24] <carthik> ashwani /etc/sudoers is the file you are looking for
[06:24] <ashwani> can you help me
[06:24] <carthik> have already :)
[06:24] <ashwani> ya, but what to edit there
[06:24] <tritium> ashwani, add that user to the admin group
[06:24] <angry_games> here's a question...i somehow got the Nvidia drivers installed...but STILL cannot get 3d acceleration to work
[06:24] <BlueEagle> ashwani: usermod -G admin,adm,audio,video,othergroupsetheuserismemberof username
[06:24] <justin-> is there no such thing a root password in ubuntu?
[06:24] <justin-> or for that matter, root account
[06:25] <bob2> that's not a question
[06:25] <bob2> justin-: /msg ubotu root
[06:25] <BlueEagle> ashwani: Note that there are no spaces between the comma and the next groupname
[06:25] <bob2> justin-: the installer did explain this...
[06:25] <SySiphus> i keep getting an error-- "isolinux: loading spec packet failed trying to wing it"  wtf does that mean??
[06:25] <freeman_08> rob... how can i get to NFS configuration
[06:25] <agent> psusi, okay... just so you know there does not seem to be a way to check gateway from ifconfig.... using netstat it gave me a gateway, but the "gateway" of my router, not AP... any other ideas?
[06:25] <ashwani> I am new to linux
[06:25] <carthik> ashwani, add hte users to the admin group which might be esier
[06:25] <ashwani> can you tell me step by step
[06:25] <ashwani> ok, let me try this
[06:25] <psusi> agent: ohh, you have a seperate AP and router?  not one of those combo jobs?
[06:26] <psusi> what kind of AP is this?
[06:26] <rob^> freeman_08, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo
[06:26] <agent> psusi, that is correct... two seperate... ap is linksys wap11 v2.6... basically i want to configure it using ap-config
[06:26] <psusi> you might look up its default address in the manufacturer's specs
[06:26] <BlueEagle> ~a
[06:27] <BlueEagle> agent: try looking in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:27] <psusi> iirc, linksys defaults to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:27] <esac> amarok calls for libz, anybody know what i install to get that ?
[06:27] <bob2> esac: amarok is in ubuntu already
[06:27] <rob^> ubotu no nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:27] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[06:27] <agent> psusi, yeah... i looked up the ip in the manual and its not it... (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[06:27] <esac> bob2 : 1.2.3 is .. 1.3.1 is the latest
[06:27] <SySiphus> can someone help me please?
[06:27] <ojt> guys
[06:27] <psusi> whoa... that's weird
[06:27] <carthik> ashwani, do $man adduser an read it to find out how to add a user to a group and then add the user to the admin group
[06:28] <auk> SySiphus: just ask, don't "ask to ask"
[06:28] <ojt> whats these errors:
[06:28] <agent> BlueEagle, nope.... has by router ip not ap
[06:28] <ojt> Unpacking replacement libc6-dev ...
[06:28] <ojt> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:28] <ojt>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive: Success
[06:28] <ojt> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[06:28] <ojt> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:28] <ojt>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14_i386.deb
[06:28] <SySiphus> i already did
[06:28] <ojt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:28] <carthik> ojt, dont paste here!!
[06:28] <SySiphus> noone answered
[06:28] <bob2> ojt: do. not. crapflood.
[06:28] <psusi> being that it's .2.251 it wouldn't even be accessible for most people using <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[06:28] <carthik> SySiphus, repeat the problem/question
[06:28] <ojt> ow sorry
[06:28] <bob2> ojt: also, that error explained the problem
[06:28] <SySiphus> i keep getting an error-- "isolinux: loading spec packet failed trying to wing it"  wtf does that mean??
[06:28] <justin-> okay, i understand sudo know, to be honest, i tried 3 different distros today, so by the time i got to ubuntu, i didnt read anything in the installation
[06:28] <ashwani> thanks yaar, let me try these
[06:28] <angry_games> anyone can help me get my 6600GT to do 3d acceleration?
[06:28] <psusi> err, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ;)
[06:28] <carthik> SySiphus but hwat are you trying to do?
[06:28] <auk> SySiphus: oh sorry, i see it now
[06:28] <SySiphus> i get the error when i try to boot from the install disk
[06:28] <bob2> ojt: also, why are you touching libc6-dev?
[06:28] <angry_games> justin-, ive tried a few and Ubuntu is the best so far
[06:29] <bob2> esac: sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[06:29] <angry_games> and im NOT a linux guy at all
[06:29] <bob2> !+info amarok breezy
[06:29] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.2.4-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5727 kB, Installed size: 11292 kB
[06:29] <justin-> neither am i
[06:29] <SySiphus> it starts to boot from cd then gives me that
[06:29] <BlueEagle> agent: Well, it has got the gateway ip the dhcp server gave you. If you don't want to have the router give you a gateway ip or want it to give you a different gateway ip then you need to configure the dhcp server of the router.
[06:29] <justin-> very sleek looking, which is very inviting for a new linux user
[06:29] <ojt> bob2,what is libc6-dev?
[06:29] <esac> bob2 : thanks
[06:29] <auk> !+info mozilla-firefox breezy
[06:29] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (dummy transitional package), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[06:29] <bob2> ojt: the package you're breaking
[06:29] <bob2> ojt: what did you do to get that error?
[06:29] <tga> ojt, apt-cache show libc6-dev
[06:29] <SySiphus> a couple of seconds later it says... "isolinux: Failed to locate C-ROM dvice: boot failed"
[06:30] <auk> well poofy
[06:30] <agent> psusi, damn... forgot about that (am using <IP_ADDRESS>/24!!
[06:30] <ojt> bob2, i typed in apt-get upgrade
[06:30] <psusi> are you quite sure it isn't <IP_ADDRESS> or .251?
[06:30] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Did you check the md5sum of the iso image before burning it?
[06:30] <SySiphus> i have been away from linux for about 3 yrs now so i am totallyl lost
[06:30] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: yes it is fine
[06:30] <tga> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 makes for better addresses
[06:31] <ojt> what can i do to fix this erors?
[06:31] <psusi> if it really is .2.251 then you will need to expand the interface to /23, or manually add a route to .2.0/24 to your route table
[06:31] <esac> bob2 : after i build amarok is there a way to remove those build-dep's ?
[06:31] <bob2> ojt: try again
[06:31] <bob2> esac: write them down
[06:31] <agent> psusi, well, not 100% sure but ap-config cannot find an ap on any of those ip addresses
[06:31] <ojt> okz
[06:31] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: What kind of CD-rom drive have you got? Which bus is it on and which chip is controlling the bus? Also are you installing hoary or breezy?
[06:31] <psusi> agent: try ping
[06:31] <tga> SySiphus, you shouldn't be, none of the basics have changed
[06:32] <`helix> is breezy still broke?
[06:32] <esac> bob2 : nice, very nice. i should file a bug against apt
[06:32] <ojt> bob2, why i cant run firefox web browser?
[06:32] <psusi> otherwise, use ifconfig to set the netmask to be /23 and then see if you can ping it
[06:32] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: The fact that it has got trouble loading a packet indicates a bad .iso image or bad burn.
[06:32] <tritium> esac, why do you think that's a bug?
[06:32] <ojt> bob2, even in terminal?
[06:32] <SySiphus> Blue eagle: i have tried 3 different ones. one is a lit on ones is an old hp
[06:32] <SDFH_Linux> how do i upgrade from hoary to breezy
[06:32] <SySiphus> and i bel;ieve the other is  a sony
[06:32] <SDFH_Linux> including the backports repos?
[06:33] <carthik> SDFH_Linux, read the breezy upgrade notes at the wiki searching will help
[06:33] <esac> tritium : if you install the dependencies JUST to build something, most likely you will want to remove them afterwards, wouldn't you think ?
[06:33] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: IDE/ATAPI drives?
[06:33] <bob2> ojt: I don't know what "cant run" means
[06:33] <SDFH_Linux> k
[06:33] <tritium> esac, so remove them
[06:33] <bob2> esac: hmm, it's more aptitude's fault than apt's
[06:33] <SySiphus> ide
[06:33] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: get rid of backports before you upgrade
[06:33] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Which IDE chipset have you got?
[06:33] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[06:34] <ojt> bob2, i mean my firefox webbrowser wont works
[06:34] <SySiphus> Blue: i have no idea
[06:34] <ar1f_pr1atna> fgfg
[06:34] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Which motherboard have you got?
[06:34] <agent> psusi, no workie with ping... manual says ip should be 192.168.251 :/
[06:34] <bob2> ojt: I still don't know what you mean.  does it not run? kick you in the face? print an error?
[06:34] <ar1f_pr1atna> hello everybody
[06:34] <SySiphus> Blue: its an old dell mobo that i got out of someones basement
[06:35] <ar1f_pr1atna> Mmmm... oh yeah??
[06:35] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: how far into the install process do you get? Do you get the select lanugage dialog at all or are you not even getting that?
[06:35] <SySiphus> Blue: could the age of the parts have anything to do with it... i mean drivers not being on the cd because the parts are outdated?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> !autocomplete
[06:35] <ubotu> BlueEagle: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:35] <ar1f_pr1atna> hey is anybody out there??
[06:35] <BlueEagle> !nickcomplete
[06:35] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, BlueEagle
[06:35] <freeman_08> where can i do the configurations?
[06:36] <auk> regeya: ping
[06:36] <cafuego_> SySiphus: That would be extremely unlikely, unless it's a 486.
[06:36] <SySiphus> Blue: hangs on boot ffrom cd
[06:36] <regeya> auk, I forgot.  oopse.
[06:36] <SySiphus> PPro 200
[06:36] <auk> regeya: :)
[06:36] <ar1f_pr1atna> hey did you hear me
[06:36] <ojt> bob2, yup, i can click the icon but it does not execute
[06:36] <cafuego_> Probably piix4 then.
[06:36] <auk> regeya: np, nvm then
[06:36] <ohphracku> whasszz upp!
[06:36] <ohphracku> ;-P
[06:36] <regeya> k auk, sorry
[06:36] <bob2> ojt: and when you run it fro ma terminal...
[06:36] <cafuego_> *maybe* piix3, but that ought to still work fine.
[06:37] <regeya> ohphracku, the ot police will get you, that's 2 lines of ot!
[06:37] <freeman_08> where can i do the configurations like "/etc/....
[06:37] <ar1f_pr1atna> f**k you b**ch
[06:37] <esac> is there a logfile for apt so i can remove those deps ?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: I doubt it, however it is a possibillity. The .iso is <650 mb, so even legacy hardware should boot it. Not familiar with dell mobos, so I've go no idea which chipset it's got and wether or not there's an issue with it.
[06:37] <ohphracku> ot?
[06:37] <bob2> esac: no
[06:37] <cafuego_> ohphracku: sky, still up.
[06:37] <ohphracku> wha??
[06:37] <bob2> esac: apt-get is not intended for end-user use, it was a sample app for libapt. aptitude has all these features (/var/log/aptitude)
[06:37] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Still, unless you've checked the md5sum of the cd I would think that it's the crulpit.
[06:38] <SDFH_Linux> are there breezy backport repos yet?
[06:38] <ojt> bob2, nothing happens
[06:38] <cafuego_> esac: aptitude writes a lot. Easiest way to remove now would be 'debfoster'.
[06:38] <bob2> I hope not
[06:38] <FR500> hi
[06:38] <bob2> ojt: nothing at all?
[06:38] <ojt> bob2,but i can run it in console
[06:38] <cafuego_> SDFH_Linux: Nope, manual job.
[06:38] <bob2> ojt: nevermind then
[06:38] <ojt> bob2,yup
[06:38] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: could it be scince it was burnt on a 700mb disk even though ther image is small emnough?
[06:38] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: how could there be a backport repository? there's nothing newer than breezy for them to crib from
[06:39] <esac> debfoster .. now there is a politically correct name
[06:39] <FR500> i have a folder set to 700 permissions so noone else than me has access, but when i try to mount it in another pc i can't access either, what can i do?
[06:39] <BlueEagle> sdfh_linux: Afaik a "backport" repository is a repository containing newer versions of applications included in the dirstro. Since the distro hasn't been released yet I would doubt that any programs have been backported yet.
[06:39] <regeya> lol
[06:39] <SySiphus> ^scince^since
[06:39] <auk> bob2: define 'end-user'
[06:39] <FR500> it's shared via samba
[06:39] <bob2> auk: "people who don't develop apt-get"
[06:39] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: I am not sure.
[06:39] <SDFH_Linux> is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[06:39] <regeya> ohphracku, I could tell you but it's ot ;-)
[06:39] <auk> bob2: :(
[06:39] <bob2> auk: ?
[06:39] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: i have check the cd iand it is good
[06:39] <auk> i like using apt-get
[06:40] <ohphracku> is there anyway we can adjust the fan speed on a laptop, bios settings suck. :-[
[06:40] <tga> mm, the polymer qt theme makes qt apps look nice in gnome
[06:40] <bob2> auk: then go for it, but don't complain if it's missing features
[06:40] <ohphracku> ok regeya
[06:40] <ohphracku> ;]
[06:40] <bob2> auk: aptitude is almost a drop in replacement, anyway
[06:40] <cafuego_> ohphracku: Probably not without a small stick.
[06:40] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: How did you check it?
[06:40] <auk> bob2: i wasn't complaining.
[06:40] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: fastsum
[06:40] <esac> ive always been told to use apt-get, i didn't even know about aptitute (well i did, i just thought that aptitude==apt)
[06:40] <ojt> bob2, i got a warning
[06:40] <auk> "pat-get is sweet sweet jelly on toast"
[06:40] <auk> *pat-get = apt-get
[06:40] <ojt> bob2, (firefox-bin:10633): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:41] <SDFH_Linux> is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[06:41] <da_bon_bon> SDFH_Linux: wait for a few weeks
[06:41] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: i also found on google that some people were having this problem with slack back in like 2002 and someone said to switch out the version of isolinux
[06:42] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: do you care about binary drivers or suspend-to-disk?
[06:42] <SDFH_Linux> no
[06:42] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: then go for it, and file bugs if you have issues
[06:43] <SDFH_Linux> when is breezy expected to go final?
[06:43] <bob2> october
[06:43] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Well, it might be that the version of isolinux used with the image has got some compatibility issues. First I've heard of it, but if it's not bug-reported I would recomend getting the name of the mobo and reporting it as a bug.
[06:43] <FR500> i have a folder set to 700 permissions so noone else than me has access, but when i try to mount it in another pc i can't access either, what can i do? it's shared via samba,
[06:43] <regeya> auk, can't find it, but the general idea is that you have this group of what's supposed to be stable packages, then you only release bug/security fixes during the release cycle, so as to not break anything during the stable release's lifespan.
[06:44] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Also there is an alternative method of installing from a floppy and d/l-ing all packages. Not sure where I saw that guide though.
[06:44] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: sounds good, you sjust answred my next q
[06:44] <auk> regeya: seems liek much mroe work to work security patches in than to just update that package
[06:44] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Are you installing breezy or hoary?
[06:45] <bob2> auk: except updating the package can randomoly break things
[06:45] <bob2> auk: e.g. new versions of firefox break old extensions
[06:45] <SySiphus> is there a place jsut to dl the floppy images?
[06:45] <bob2> SySiphus: don't believe they exist
[06:45] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: not sure what ever was avail for dl yesterday
[06:45] <SySiphus> poo
[06:45] <regeya> auk, my thoughts too, but I used to run distros like gentoo, so I can't fully agree ;)  true, with a decent ports-like system with good backwards deps it wouldn't be a big issue but hey, i'm getting into rough flame-worthy territory here so I'll just stop. ;)
[06:46] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Breezy has been avail for d/l for a while, but it's still preview software.
[06:46] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Hoary is the lastest stable.
[06:46] <auk> bob2: yes, but doesn't working in the security stuff break even more things, because that code is nto meant to be taken out?
[06:46] <SySiphus> thats the one then
[06:46] <SySiphus> breezy that is
[06:46] <bob2> auk: not usually
[06:46] <bob2> mozilla stuff is about the only case where that happens
[06:46] <auk> regeya: i'm not trying for flames, i'm just trying to understand...just doesn't make sense to me
[06:46] <bob2> since they don't actually make security patches available
[06:46] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: should i try hoary instead?
[06:46] <lxuser> hi
[06:47] <lxuser> hi
[06:47] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Well, it is the latest stable, however I do not know if they have changed isolinux on the install cd from hoary to breezy.
[06:47] <BlueEagle> bob2: do you know?
[06:47] <auk> bob2: i'll take your word for it, that it doesn't usually
[06:47] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: it would be in the realse notes wouldnt it?
[06:48] <da_bon_bon> is there any milestone between a preview release and a final release
[06:48] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: ill find it somewhere
[06:48] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: Well, since it's such low-level and not really a part of the end-installation I don't think so.
[06:48] <alexandros> can someone pleasse tell if backports are up?
[06:48] <bob2> da_bon_bon: another colony release
[06:48] <bob2> alexandros: ask on the forums (no)
[06:48] <bob2> BlueEagle: no
[06:48] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: As a developer that's something I would think as irrelevant to include.  :)
[06:48] <lonasindi> i have a question about the latest release of ubuntu
[06:48] <BlueEagle> bob2: no you don't know or no they haven't changed it?
[06:49] <esac> how do i add sommething to the PATH
[06:49] <da_bon_bon> bob2: but .. the colony release .. whats the point ?
[06:49] <lonasindi> namely, does it support 802.1x authentication out of the box or am I going to have to find an application for that?
[06:49] <da_bon_bon> between preview and final, do software versions change, bob2 ?
[06:49] <bob2> BlueEagle: I don't know
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> export PATH=$PATH:new/place/to/add
[06:49] <bob2> da_bon_bon: to test again
[06:49] <BlueEagle> bob2: k thx.
[06:49] <bob2> da_bon_bon: yes, every day new things get uploaded
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> esac,  thats normally how. I think.
[06:49] <SySiphus> BlueEagle: well thanks for all the help
[06:49] <bob2> lonasindi: define "802.1x authentication"
[06:49] <alexandros> bob2: Thanks
[06:49] <auk> esac: echo PATH = $PATH:<blah>
[06:49] <da_bon_bon> bob2: ok..
[06:49] <bob2> lonasindi: wep is pretty trivial to get going
[06:49] <BlueEagle> sysiphus: no problem. :)
[06:50] <lonasindi> bob2: not wep
[06:50] <bob2> lonasindi: wpa is less so
[06:50] <lxuser> hello world...
[06:50] <lonasindi> bob2: 802.1x is a wired network port-based authentication standard
[06:50] <lxuser> im here..........
[06:50] <auk> err...what Dr_Willis said
[06:50] <SDFH_Linux> thanks for the help guys
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> auk,  :P
[06:50] <lxuser> wiil anyone here want to entertain me.........
[06:50] <bob2> lonasindi: oh, duh me, sorry
[06:50] <auk> echo, export, too much alliteration
[06:51] <auk> adn then there's those spaces bafore/after the '='
[06:51] <kevin06> Anyone have any thoughts on what the Adobe buyout of Macromedia will mean for us OSS peeps?
[06:51] <auk> *before
[06:51] <auk> kevin06: suckier flash, i smy bet ;)
[06:51] <bob2> kevin06: both of them continuing to provide low-quality unmaintained binary-only software
[06:52] <eyequeue> is there a common reason why usplash appears to do nothing on my laptop?
[06:52] <bill_> I'm still trying to figure out Ubuntu
[06:52] <regeya> I wonder how hard the gnomebaker dev would have to work to get the default action on "OK" "Cancel" dialogs to be "OK".  The only thing more irritating than being prompted twice in a diskcopy is to hit "Enter" and wonder WTF happened to the disk-burning half of the process. :)
[06:52] <bill_> and Java on it
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> regeya,  lol...
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> or at least double check and ask again.
[06:53] <lxuser> hi hello anyone here want to entertanin me??////
[06:53] <lonasindi> no ideas on 802.1x then?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> moo
[06:53] <bob2> lxuser: this is a channel for ubuntu support
[06:53] <FR500> i have a folder set to 700 permissions so noone else than me has access, but when i try to mount it in another pc i can't access either, what can i do? it's shared via samba,
[06:53] <regeya> not even that.  even better:  detect that there's media in there.  other programs can do it.  don't irritate me with two separate #$%!ing dialog boxes.
[06:54] <bob2> lonasindi: nothing appears to be in ubuntu, and wikipedia doesn't even know what it is
[06:54] <regeya> oh, wait, I use irc, I'm not a typical user.  nevermind.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> FR500,  samba has its own methods of setting the permissions.
[06:54] <lonasindi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.1x
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> FR500,  this being shared to a windows or linux machine?
[06:54] <FR500> Dr_Willis: in both cases
[06:55] <FR500> wont work
[06:55] <tga> *sigh* Scribus is a sorry excuse for a DTP app
[06:55] <regeya> tga: I'd disagree but I can't.  what's your particular gripe, though?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> FR500,  if using linux to linux - you may want to use nfs, OR you could just say heck with samba and use some form of ssh. or scp.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> FR500,  the main issue is with how samba sets permissions however.
[06:56] <FR500> Dr_Willis: setting up ldap or something would allow me to do it?
[06:56] <regeya> tga: or you just don't like it in general?  that's understandable too.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> FR500,  not sure - never used ldap
[06:56] <tga> regeya, the interface mostly.. I select something, hit ctrl+b to make it bold and the line disappears..
[06:56] <jmark> anybody know why unbuntuguide.org doesn't seem to be up any longer?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> FR500,   you can set a samba share where only 1 person has access - no need to use the 700 permission
[06:56] <tga> regeya, just to use an example
[06:57] <FR500> Dr_Willis: there are other shared folders for other users
[06:57] <regeya> tga, I'll take your word for it; the WYSIWYG way of setting text sucks in Scribus so I always use the story editor.
[06:58] <bill_> how the heck do I get Java to work with Ubuntu 5.04?  Can anyone help me?  I have a WindowsME machine and I just added Ubuntu to it...I have java on Windows, but not on Ubuntu.  I like to play Poppit on Pogo.com, and cant now unless I reboot into Windows
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> !java
[06:58] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:58] <lonasindi> alright. looks lik ubuntu is out.
[06:58] <lonasindi> laterz
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> rember - check the wikis :P
[06:58] <carthik> jmark, use the mirror of the guide...
[06:58] <tga> regeya, a dtp app with a crappy wysiwyg text editor kinda sucks, don't you think?
[06:58] <jmark> carthik: where is that?
[06:59] <jakelo> I'm having an issue with upgrading a system from debian to ubuntu breezy, apt-get attempts and fails at removing x-common.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[06:59] <bill_> will that link get java on my system?  I went to java.com and was unable to download
[06:59] <jakelo> debian sarge that is.
[06:59] <regeya> tga, well, hell, I have to use an old version of QuarkXPress (4.11) for a living, so Scribus isn't that much more painful! *wink*
[07:00] <cafuego_> jakelo: Yes, don't "upgrade"
[07:00] <eyequeue> how do i work around this error at boot?  it is the first thing on the screen and appears to be preventing usplash from working here? (2-line error paste follows)
[07:00] <eyequeue> [4294669.125000]  8139cp: pci dev 0000:02:08.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip
[07:00] <eyequeue> [4294669.125000]  8139cp: Try the "8139too" driver instead.
[07:00] <bill_> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux, but just about an expert in Windows.  Wiki's?
[07:00] <tga> you have my sympathy regeya, I was only trying to craft a resume and I'm already annoyed
[07:00] <eyequeue> !wiki
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> eyequeue,  i see that error also.. and my card works fine.
[07:00] <cafuego_> jakelo: Alternatuively, remove any packages that are causing issues, then cross-upgrade, then reinstall them.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> eyequeue,  and to get the splash from shown i use some option in the grub menus to make it a normal console boot.
[07:01] <locomorto> !list ops
[07:01] <ubotu> locomorto: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:01] <cafuego_> eyequeue: add 8139cp to the hotplug blacklist
[07:01] <regeya> tga:  I suggest using the story editor and defining styles from there.  it will be less painful.  if you're crafting a resume, though, I suggest just using oowriter.
[07:01] <locomorto> !ops
[07:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[07:01] <volvoguy> ok. last plea for the night. does anyone know about recovering data from a drive whos (ext3) partition table got corrupted or deleted?
[07:01] <tritium> hi locomorto
[07:01] <nalioth> locomorto: what did you need?
[07:01] <eyequeue> Dr_Willis:  i want to suppress the error, so thar the usplash package in breezy works (i already have a splashscreen in grub, thanks :) )
[07:02] <cafuego_> volvoguy: There's a tool that scans the disk for partition boundaries and files... I forget its name, though.
[07:02] <eyequeue> cafuego:  thanks
[07:02] <bill_> can anyone help me?
[07:02] <locomorto> Nono, I'm right thank you, just checking something
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> eyequeue,  - i REMOVED the splash. :P it was Ugly.
[07:02] <volvoguy> cafuego, gpart? didn't find anything.
[07:02] <benplaut> locomorto who cried wolf!
[07:02] <bill_> am I visible?
[07:02] <benplaut> bill_: no
[07:02] <locomorto> bill_ no your invisble
[07:02] <volvoguy> i'm even open to commercial software to recover my data if anyone knows of some.
[07:02] <cafuego_> volvoguy: Then you're probably out of luck.
[07:03] <locomorto> bill_: we can't hear you
[07:03] <bill_> thanks ben...
[07:03] <cafuego_> volvoguy: maybe a commercial data recovery service..?
[07:03] <bill_> at least I know my messeges are getting out
[07:03] <cafuego_> bill_: We can only see what you type, not you.
[07:03] <bill_> hopefully someone will be able to help me
[07:04] <cafuego_> Not if you don't ask your question.
[07:04] <volvoguy> cafuego, there's a link on ubuntuforums for "Nucleus Technologies". ever heard of them? $50 to supposedly do what i need done.
[07:04] <locomorto> bill_: whats your problem?
[07:04] <bob2> locomorto: what?
[07:04] <cafuego_> Oh, the java?
[07:04] <bob2> locomorto: please don't do that unless there's an actual emergency
[07:04] <cafuego_> bill_: Go to java.sun.com (Follow the link on the wiki page) and the download jre1.5sun.....bin (NOT the .rpm.bin) file.
[07:05] <esac> how do i switch from KDE to GNOME ?
[07:05] <locomorto> cafuego_: the wiki page was been reworked
[07:05] <locomorto> esac: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <bill_> thank you, trying to load Java on a windows machine that I loaded Ubuntu on.  System cant find /usr/sbin/lpc
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> esac,  install the ubuntu-desktop then at the GDM login - select kde from the menus
[07:05] <cafuego_> What does lpc have to do with Java?
[07:06] <bill_> I like to play games at pogo.com and cant without Java
[07:06] <tritium> locomorto, you didnt' tell us why you did that...
[07:06] <Marxist> bill_ hold on i got the right doc for you
[07:06] <bill_> I don't know, but that is the file that I was told I was missing when I tried to troubleshoot it
[07:06] <bob2> bill_: the fact you're using windows has nothing to do with this issue
[07:07] <bill_> ok bob2...do you have an idea as to what I can do to fix the problem?
[07:07] <DansFloyd> how do i access my windows partition? :)
[07:07] <bob2> by reading the documentation you've been pointed at?
[07:07] <bob2> DansFloyd: /msg ubotu ntfs
[07:08] <Marxist> omg they took ubuntuguide.org off the ent?
[07:08] <Marxist> net*
[07:08] <bob2> omg
[07:08] <bill_> where is it?
[07:08] <nomad1> hey i was just wondering how do u log into ubuntu using root login
[07:08] <nomad1> cant do that on the login screen
[07:09] <bob2> nomad1: why would you want to do that?
[07:09] <bill_> I am trying not to be confused, but I have gone to a lot of different webaddressess and not found any info
[07:09] <nomad1> so i can mount partitioms
[07:09] <FR500> nomad1: you can mount from the console
[07:09] <bob2> nomad1: which does not require logging into gnome as root
[07:09] <trigger_ph> bob2: i got mplayer and only got to try it out on the CLI..how is the GUI made?
[07:09] <bob2> nomad1: login as your normal user
[07:09] <nomad1> how
[07:10] <bob2> trigger_ph: gmplayer, I guess
[07:10] <bob2> it always seemed pretty useless to me
[07:10] <nomad1> i cant find a good help site for ubuntu
[07:10] <jakelo> If anyone is interested I think I fixed my issues with debian sarge to ubuntu.  I swapped the source.list files adn ran apt-get -f install and it seemts to be continuing the install
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu wiki and forums are the key.
[07:10] <jblack> Just wanted to let you guys know that I got a specific request from a certain 11 year old that she have ubuntu on her laptop instead of "that broken windows stuff"
[07:10] <Marxist> How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?
[07:10] <Marxist>    1. Read General Notes
[07:10] <Marxist>    2. Read How to add extra repositories?
[07:10] <Marxist>    3.
[07:10] <Marxist> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:10] <Marxist> java -version
[07:10] <Marxist>    4. Restart Mozilla Firefox
[07:10] <Marxist> do that bill_
[07:10] <jakelo> looks like ubuntu sources being installed.
[07:10] <tritium> Marxist, please don't paste
[07:10] <Marxist> sorry
[07:10] <Madpilot> jblack: that's cool - smart kid! ;)
[07:11] <bob2> jblack: haha
[07:11] <locomorto> Marxist: I'm fairly sure 1.5 was moved out of the repos
[07:11] <bill_> I have firefox
[07:11] <trigger_ph> bob2: ah so mplayer is meant to run on a terminal? that's fine with me
[07:11] <nomad1> bob2, how do u mount from terminal
[07:11] <bob2> nomad1: /msg ubotu ntfs
[07:11] <locomorto> nomad1: mount <device> <mount point> <commands>
[07:11] <Marxist> why?
[07:12] <locomorto> Marxist: legal issues
[07:12] <nomad1> but locomorto i need still need to kno how set permissions and stuff for my folders
[07:12] <bob2> bill_: http://therning.org/magnus/archives/63
[07:12] <bob2> nomad1: so, read what the bot said
[07:12] <nomad1> i didnt get anything from the bot
[07:13] <Marxist> alright that is bullshit, I'm tired of deb systems having to take off needed programs to honor legal problems
[07:13] <locomorto> nomad1: check your other windows/tabs
[07:13] <nomad1> lol none
[07:13] <gloc_nine> u
[07:13] <carthik> jmark, the mirror is at http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/ if you havent found it already
[07:13] <AngryParsley> yeah, why is it so damn hard to get the java plugin working in firefox?
[07:13] <locomorto> !tell nomad1 ntfs
[07:14] <bob2> nomad1: then try again
[07:14] <bill_> thanks everyone who responded...I will try all...I hope that next time I chat with you I have the answers and can help someone else.
[07:14] <locomorto> !tell me ntfs
[07:14] <tritium> locomorto, what were you checking exactly, regarding ops?
[07:14] <nomad1> !tell me ntfs
[07:14] <nomad1> so i cant login as root
[07:14] <nalioth> ubuntuguide is mirrored?
[07:14] <nomad1> on the login screen
[07:14] <ashwani> thanks   CARTHIK and other friends
[07:15] <carthik> nalioth, yes
[07:15] <carthik> ashwani, anytime
[07:15] <ashwani> I have successfully added sudo users
[07:15] <bob2> nomad1: correct
[07:15] <nomad1> how do i sign my current login owner status
[07:15] <AngryParsley> ok, so I've read like 10 ways to install the java plugin for firefox, and I've tried a few and they don't work
[07:15] <carthik> nalioth, i searched for google cache and got the url of the mirror
[07:15] <bob2> nomad1: it's possible to change that, but there's no reason to
[07:15] <Marxist> is anyone is not going to then i will, ubuntuguide was kickass quick solutions to get what i needed on here
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[07:15] <bob2> nomad1: you don't...
[07:15] <ashwani> hey carthik can you help me in one more matter
[07:15] <nomad1> lol
[07:15] <nomad1> then i cant change permisssions
[07:15] <carthik> ashwani, shoot
[07:15] <nomad1> on folders
[07:15] <bob2> nomad1: sure you can
[07:15] <AngryParsley> I'm using breezy, so a lot of the stuff doesn't apply
[07:15] <bob2> nomad1: also, you will very very rarely be touching things outside of your home dir
[07:16] <bob2> nomad1: what specific folder are you trying to change the permissions of?
[07:16] <carthik> ashwani, so what is it?
[07:16] <volvoguy> i'd like to add to jblack's success story by saying that i *easily* converted a slackware user since version 1 to ubuntu this week. he'll have ubuntu on all his machines by the weekend. :)
[07:16] <odat> k
[07:16] <nomad1> well i created two folders on my desktop
[07:16] <trigger_ph> brb
[07:16] <ashwani> carthik - one of the senior person in my organisatoin was sudo user
[07:16] <nomad1> C:\ and D:\
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> AngryParsley,  - Hmmm i am using breezy.., and i THINK all i did was use the 'add new applications' menu item. clicked on a few things and it even added Multiverse and isntalled java... let me check...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> brb
[07:16] <nomad1> to mount my ntfs partitions into them
[07:16] <derk> hi
[07:16] <ashwani> but today his user id was not in admin group
[07:16] <nomad1> they got a lock icon onthem
[07:16] <ashwani> is there any way i can trace who had done this
[07:17] <AngryParsley> no I have java installed
[07:17] <AngryParsley> I can run java stuff
[07:17] <ashwani> who had removed his from admin and other groups
[07:17] <bob2> nomad1: they're just regular folders?
[07:17] <AngryParsley> but the plugin for firefox isn't working
[07:17] <nomad1> yeo
[07:17] <carthik> ashwani, i wouldnt know how, sorry :(
[07:17] <nomad1> yep*
[07:17] <Marxist> lol ubuntu has more users than freebsd's channel
[07:17] <nalioth> AngryParsley: what arch?
[07:17] <keith-> AngryParsley: what plugin for firefox?
[07:17] <AngryParsley> nalioth: x86
[07:17] <keith-> my flash plugin hangs like a bitch now
[07:17] <SuperQ> Marxist: uh.. slackware has more users than freeBSD
[07:17] <carthik> ashwani, anyone with privileges
[07:17] <bob2> nomad1: then show us the output of "ls -l ~/Desktop" in #flood
[07:17] <AngryParsley> flash works fine, but java is a no-go
[07:17] <odat> anyone have any experience with samba?
[07:18] <Marxist> SuperQ, im sure that's nice, but i never denied that
[07:18] <ashwani> carthik:  there are lots of sudo users, how should I trace who has done it or if the server was hacked
[07:18] <AngryParsley> keith-: umm... the java one?
[07:18] <keith-> anyone else had problems with flash hanging?  also, flash audio doesn't always work for me... it is trying to open /dev/mixer1 which doesn't exist...
[07:18] <odat> bob2: sup man
[07:18] <yhann> Hi guys, how can I test my modem?
[07:18] <nalioth> AngryParsley: hoary or breezy?
[07:18] <bob2> odat: lots of people, best to just ask your problem
[07:18] <AngryParsley> breezy
[07:18] <keith-> AngryParsley: k.  well i just got here... i'm trying to catch up.
[07:18] <AngryParsley> oh
[07:18] <nalioth> AngryParsley: custom java ubuntu debs here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:18] <bob2> keith-: sudo modprobe snd_mixer_oss ; pkill esd, try again
[07:18] <highvoltage> SuperQ: any figures to back that up? (i'm not arguing, i'd just like to see them for future reference)
[07:18] <AngryParsley> nalioth: sweeeet
[07:19] <ashwani> please tell
[07:19] <odat> well i can currently acces my xp machine from ubuntu and can see my unbuntu machine on xp but can not access anything from my ubuntu box from my xp machine
[07:19] <bob2> nomad1: so, your actual problem is that you made folders on your Desktop as root, for no apparent reason
[07:19] <yhann> Hi guys, how can I test my modem?
[07:19] <keith-> bob2: tried that.  i have /dev/mixer ... i don't have /dev/mixer1 ... and so sound only works with some stuff.
[07:19] <SuperQ> highvoltage: haha.. no.. it was more a joke than anything
[07:19] <bob2> nomad1: 'sudo rm ~/Desktop/*:*'
[07:19] <carthik> ashwani, i don't know - sorry - there must be some log /var/log/syslog or similar that logs messages
[07:19] <AngryParsley> nalioth: thanks for your help
[07:19] <SuperQ> highvoltage: I suppose I could find out
[07:19] <nalioth> AngryParsley: that's what i'm here for
[07:19] <ashwani> carthik:  how has you changed your color to red
[07:20] <bob2> keith-: I can't think of any reason a working program should touch that
[07:20] <carthik> ashwani it is because i mention your name
[07:20] <AngryParsley> now that I have that working, I can do everything I did in windows
[07:20] <carthik> now it doesnt
[07:20] <ashwani> ok
[07:20] <ashwani> do you see my text in red
[07:20] <AngryParsley> well I will have it working once the torrent finishes
[07:20] <ashwani> carthik, do you see myb test in red
[07:20] <faddat> anybody know what to make of this?
[07:20] <carthik> ashwani, no, you have to say carthik
[07:20] <keith-> bob2: ran an strace on it... well a friend did... then he made the device, and sound worked... but i haven't remade it since i rebooted
[07:20] <faddat> configure: error: expected an absolute directory name for --prefix: =/usr
[07:20] <nalioth> AngryParsley: you should. it was custom compiled for breezy x96
[07:20] <bob2> keith-: very odd
[07:20] <carthik> ashwani nowi do - it is a way for others to know they are being talked-to by you
[07:21] <faddat> should /usr be /home/myusername?
[07:21] <bob2> faddat: what are you trying to compile?
[07:21] <faddat> or should /usr be /usr/myusername
[07:21] <CountDown> Hi all.  How can I find out to which package a system file belongs.  For example, I'm interested in knowing which package is responsible for installing the /usr/include/usb.h file.
[07:21] <AngryParsley> nalioth: yeah, I haven't had a problem getting debs to work
[07:21] <keith-> bob2: yeah flash is acting all bad for me now... i'm not sure what it is
[07:21] <AngryParsley> I'm just new to linux on the desktop environment
[07:21] <faddat> The clearlooks theme that uses cairo.
[07:21] <odat> i can currently acces my xp machine from ubuntu and can see my unbuntu machine on xp but can not access anything from my ubuntu box from my xp machine
[07:21] <odat> need help with samba
[07:22] <faddat> bob2: the clearlooks theme that uses cairo
[07:22] <bob2> nomad1: so, stop being so annoying and ignoring me
[07:22] <bob2> nomad1: I already told you how to fix it
[07:22] <faddat> bob2: I'm referencing this article http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[07:23] <volvoguy> faddat, where'd you find that? i thought it was only barely started.
[07:23] <ashwani> carthik, thanks
[07:23] <carthik> ashwani, if you are interested in avoiding it in the future or something, read up on it: http://www.seifried.org/security/index.php/Linux_System_and_User_Logging
[07:23] <jmark> what happens to my ubuntu system if I uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[07:23] <ashwani> carthik, that do you do actually, where are you working
[07:23] <faddat> volvoguy: http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[07:23] <volvoguy> heh. that was a fast answer. :)
[07:23] <AngryParsley> jmark: you probably want to keep ubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <bob2> faddat: it's broken, no space between --prefix=/usr
[07:24] <bob2> faddat: but I'd be very wary of bothering with that
[07:24] <carthik> ashwani, no, i never have had a network/security problem - i am a graduate student :)
[07:24] <FR500> dr_willis: i had it set as a public share........duh
[07:24] <jmark> AngryParsley: i'm trying to remaster a ubuntu cd and need to remove openoffice.org, when I do apt-get remove openoffice.org it also removes ubuntu-desktop???
[07:24] <bob2> since clearlooks is in ubuntu already
[07:24] <faddat> bob2: thanks man.  I'll probably do what the article says and use it and then drop it
[07:24] <faddat> bob2: just want to try it for the cairo more than anything.
[07:25] <Madpilot> AngryParsley & jmark: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, you can delete it without any major issues - but it's probably a good idea to re-install it before doing any major system upgrades - like when you move up to Breezy...
[07:25] <ashwani> carthik, from how much time you are using ubuntu
[07:25] <bob2> faddat: bear in mind you're already using cairo
[07:25] <carthik> ashwani, since nov'04 ?
[07:25] <ashwani> carthik, what are these green text coming on.
[07:25] <faddat> ?
[07:25] <dr_willis> FR500,  :P
[07:25] <volvoguy> bob2, might checkinstall help faddat uninstall things if it doesn't work?
[07:25] <bob2> volvoguy: ah, yes, good idea
[07:25] <AngryParsley> Madpilot: oh
[07:25] <ashwani> carthik, I am also using linux from nov 04 but ubuntu from 1 month only
[07:25] <bob2> faddat: gtk in ubuntu uses cairo
[07:25] <cafuego_> faddat: Ubuntu includes cairo, it's just that not all of Gnome ahs been ported over to it as of yet.
[07:25] <carthik> ashwani, messages to tell you someone joined or parted, turn them off in preferences if you dont like
[07:25] <nalioth> volvoguy: if he used it TO install, yes
[07:25] <cafuego_> (afaik)
[07:26] <volvoguy> nalioth, right.
[07:26] <volvoguy> faddat, are you familiar with checkinstall?
[07:26] <ashwani> carthik, this is first time I am or IRC chat
[07:26] <jmark> Madpilot: I am going to remove it from a livecd. As such it will not be upgraded
[07:26] <faddat> bob2: I'm confused-- the article would lead me to believe that since my theme is not set to use cairo, I'm not using it.  Ah, okay-- more things to put on my wishlist for 6.04 :).
[07:26] <ashwani> is there any ubuntu group on Yahoo messanger
[07:26] <Myrtti> <3 irssi "/ignore #ubuntu JOINS QUITS"
[07:26] <cyphase> Good Review of Ubuntu : http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145
[07:26] <ashwani> carthik,is there any ubuntu group on Yahoo messanger
[07:26] <faddat> volvoguy: can't say that I am
[07:26] <dr_willis> ashwani,  ewww... :P
[07:26] <bob2> faddat: gtk uses cairo to draw in breezy
[07:26] <cafuego_> !checkinstall
[07:26] <dr_willis> last i was in the yahoo messenger rooms - they were all porn chat.