[10:21] <me7531> dgjones: yes.  oddly, if i remove the entries in fstab, they do get automounted, but not where i want
[10:21] <Doomguy0505> codename: you need to put the iwads in that folder
[10:21] <codename> thanks man!
[10:21] <giox> z9999: ok it should be a folder call DRIVER
[10:21] <xaxxon> h1st0; sorry, that was to shwouchk
[10:21] <me7531> dgjones: i am using UUID instead of device names because i've got so many drives to mount
[10:21] <z9999> giox: make says no targets and no makefile
[10:22] <tsukasa_> anyone? how do i look at what groups are set up
[10:22] <codename> do i have to make
[10:22] <xaxxon> sabayon linux plays musc during startup?!?
[10:22] <codename> a lxdoom folder
[10:22] <Tomcat_> xjkx: I got 512 as well... it accessed the CD pretty often when starting new apps. Not when just leaving it sitting there of course.
[10:22] <me7531> i'm kind of surprised that ubuntu can't handle this
[10:22] <codename> cause it's not in usr share
[10:22] <xaxxon> I guess htat's nice since it takes so long to boot from live cd.. but cool
[10:22] <giox> z9999: i need to know that you found that folder in the  bcm4311 directory
[10:22] <Doomguy0505> codename: i'm not sure, i just googled the problem and they said copy iwads into /usr/share/lxdoom/wad
[10:22] <dgjones> me7531, i'm not sure what the problem is going to be then, although maybe its a conflict if its configured to automount with another from fstab
[10:23] <me7531> dgjones: i don't know.  they're just standard fstab entries.  there is no field in there to tell anything to automount, i thought
[10:23] <Doomguy0505> codename: is their a ~/.lxdoom directory?
[10:23] <z9999> giox: Theres no other folders, and going back a directory still none named DRIVER
[10:24] <codename> yep
[10:24] <me7531> dgjones: but i would think HAL or dbus or whatever would detect them and consult fstab and mount them
[10:24] <giox> z9999: there is any file in it that ends with .inf
[10:24] <dgjones> me7531, not sure what to suggest, are they removable drives, or fixed drives on another machine shared by nfs/samba
[10:24] <codename> there is a directory for that
[10:24] <codename> its not a iwad file though it's a .wad
[10:24] <z9999> giox: yes, the bcmwl5.inf exists there.
[10:25] <me7531> dgjones: usb drives, which is why i need UUID entries in fstab to keep the mount points the same regardless of device names
[10:25] <giox> z9999: ok are you in the terminal?
[10:25] <z9999> giox: yes, and in the bcmwl5 directory
[10:26] <z9999> giox: correction, bcm4311 directory
[10:26] <giox> z9999: go to the ndiswrapper folder
[10:27] <dgjones> me7531, as you say, i wonder whether hal/dbus mounts them seperatly & that conflicts with the fstab entry - maybe it sees it duplicated, I've not mounted usb drives using fstab because i've only ever been using usb keys or a temporary drive for a short time
[10:27] <Knight_On_White> hello all, i would like to know what is the best way to copy data from HDD to HDD under Ubuntu 7.04 ? and make a data compares later ? (does ubuntu have software like norton commander on xp systems?)
[10:28] <z9999> giox: OK, and there is a driver folder there.
[10:28] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: no need for norton command
[10:28] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: you can do a disk dump
[10:28] <giox> ok now type suo make distclean
[10:28] <me7531> Knight_On_White: man cp
[10:29] <giox> z9999: ok now type sudo make distclean
[10:29] <codename> Doomguy0505: you three?
[10:29] <z9999> giox: done
[10:29] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: There are plenty of ways to do it what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[10:30] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: a bit for bit copy?
[10:30] <giox> z9999: ok type sudo make
[10:30] <giox> z9999: then type sudo make install
[10:30] <shwouchk> my ncurses got fucked (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[10:31] <dgjones> me7531, just had a quick google, this sounds like a similar problem, maybe the comments on this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-337403.html
[10:31] <h1st0> !language | shwouchk
[10:31] <ubotu> shwouchk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:31] <me7531> dgjones: thanks
[10:32] <z9999> giox: sudo make   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[10:32] <Knight_On_White> if i would like to make an archive of the entire HDD and save the archive on other hdd ?
[10:32] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: like a back up?  Do you want it compressed?
[10:32] <Knight_On_White> h1st0 : yes
[10:33] <Knight_On_White> h1st0: yes
[10:33] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: something like partimage may be what you are looking for.
[10:33] <[nrx] > would you not be better just backing up /home?
[10:33] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: it creates a copy of the entire partition making it easy to restore.
[10:33] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage
[10:34] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: He has a link to other backup options.  But in linux if you just backup your /home or put it on a seperate partition you are pretty safe.
[10:34] <giox> z9999: ok type this sudo apt-get update
[10:34] <giox> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:34] <giox> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:34] <h1st0> giox: he has no net
[10:35] <giox> i forgot
[10:35] <giox> h1st0: why he cantdo the make
[10:36] <aantn> !affinity
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about affinity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: there is also tar you can just make a tgz of your entire disk heres a hwoto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[10:36] <Knight_On_White> h1st0: i have an HDD with alot of databases (300gb), and i would like to copy all the databases to other HDD - so i was thinking of make an archive of all the databases directly to the new HDD
[10:36] <aantn> is affinity still being developed?
[10:37] <h1st0> giox: he's probably not int he right folder.
[10:37] <me7531> Knight_On_White: is there some problem with the cp command=
[10:37] <me7531> ?
[10:37] <z9999> giox: Don't know, but I have the original ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz also if that is needed
[10:37] <h1st0> aantn: no
[10:37] <Knight_On_White> me7531: i dont sure how to use the cp command right
[10:38] <[nrx] > cp = copy
[10:38] <aantn> h1st0: why?
[10:38] <me7531> Knight_On_White: well if you cannot figure out how to read the man page and use it, you have more serious problems than data archival
[10:38] <[nrx] > me7531: lol
[10:38] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: then look at that howto for tar that I posted.  That will probably be your best bet.  You an create a compressed file of them.
[10:38] <giox> z9999: ok go to /home
[10:39] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: you can just adapt it to your needs as you are not backing up /  but wherever your databases are.
[10:39] <giox> z9999: and create a folder named wlan
[10:39] <bighil> hi, does someone know, how I get gnome to raise a window only if I click in the title bar of the window?
[10:39] <Knight_On_White> !tar
[10:39] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:39] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[10:39] <h1st0> Knight_On_White: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:39] <Doomguy0505> codename: i think you should get zdoom instead
[10:41] <giox> z9999: and extract that tar file in it
[10:41] <z9999> giox: OK, have a /home/wlan directory
[10:41] <[nrx] > ;o
[10:42] <z9999> giox: don't know what the command is to extract the tar - untar? and need any options?
[10:43] <[nrx] > ;o
[10:43] <[nrx] > oops, orry
[10:43] <ompaul> z9999, tar xvf FILENAME.tar
[10:43] <giox> z9999: type ls and check that you can see the file
[10:43] <jimmacdonald> z9999: unless you want it to go somewhere else then it's tar xvf filename directory
[10:44] <giox> z9999: that you want to extract
[10:44] <WuPeak> hi there
[10:45] <z9999> giox: I have to get rid of the .gz somehow first?
[10:45] <WuPeak> i've got a prob with my ati x700. if i run sudo fglrxinfo, the ATI Drivers are taken, if i run just fglrxinfo the system takes the MESA Drivers. How to solve this?
[10:45] <giox> z9999: no
[10:46] <jimmacdonald> z9999, giox I believe you do... you can by gunzip *.gz
[10:46] <giox> z9999: just live the file how it is
[10:47] <giox> z9999: if you type ls and you can see ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz you are ok
[10:48] <WuPeak> no idea?
[10:49] <z9999> giox: I have the file, but do I need to copy it to /home/wlan?
[10:49] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[10:49] <h1st0> shwouchk: how did it get that way?
[10:49] <giox> z9999: ok type the following     sudo tar zxvf ndiswrapper-1.42.tar.gz /home/wlan
[10:50] <shwouchk> h1st0: I wish I knew
[10:50] <h1st0> shwouchk: well did it ever worked?  When did it stop working?
[10:50] <panosru> Please someone help me make my second partition executable!! :(
[10:50] <h1st0> panosru: you mean bootable?
[10:51] <panosru> no mean that i have second partition and i can't execute apps from it
[10:51] <panosru> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:51] <panosru> see noexec! :(
[10:51] <bezibaerchen> panosru:  well, then tide out the noexec from fstab :-)
[10:51] <h1st0> panosru: how did you mount it?
[10:52] <enzo> hi grils I'm back 8-)
[10:52] <h1st0> panosru: but yeah editing your /etc/fstab will fix it.
[10:52] <panosru> the problem is that i open fstab but there i can't find my disk.  I formated it with GNOME partition manager and mounted from there too
[10:53] <panosru>   GNU nano 2.0.2                                                        File: /etc/fstab
[10:53] <panosru> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:53] <panosru> #
[10:53] <panosru> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
[10:53] <panosru> #
[10:53] <panosru> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[10:53] <panosru> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[10:53] <panosru> # Entry for /dev/hdd1 :
[10:53] <dgjones> !paste | panosru
[10:53] <h1st0> panosru: well then there isn't an entry for it.
[10:53] <ubotu> panosru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:53] <panosru> UUID=2699c485-76a3-4654-8f6c-787f9d0009e2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[10:53] <panosru> # Entry for /dev/hdd5 :
[10:53] <panosru> UUID=8ad43aad-9ddd-4b43-955a-f0d3ff2033e4 none swap sw 0 0
[10:53] <h1st0> panosru: don't paste in here.
[10:53] <panosru> /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[10:53] <panosru> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[10:53] <panosru> /dev/sda1 /media/Vista ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[10:53] <panosru> my fstab file
[10:53] <panosru> :/
[10:53] <shwouchk> panosru: NOT HERE!!!!
[10:53] <panosru> oh sorry!
[10:53] <panosru> :/
[10:53] <shwouchk> damn it
[10:53] <panosru> SORRY!! :(
[10:53] <shwouchk> doesn't the channel has an autoban bot?
[10:53] <h1st0> panosru: create an entry for it in fstab
[10:53] <h1st0> !fstab | panosru
[10:53] <ubotu> panosru: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:54] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[10:54] <shwouchk> h1st0: sorry, didn't see your message... it worked fine... one day I reboot, ssh into it, and it's screwed
[10:56] <panosru> is there a way so i could type a command so it will auto configure fstab?  (asking too much right? :P )
[10:57] <[nrx] > anyone having issues with the icq network?
[10:57] <bezibaerchen> yes, its dagling today
[10:57] <[nrx] > k
[10:59] <z9999> giox: OK, now have a directory ndiswrapper-1.42 in /home/wlan
[10:59] <Le^stat> how do i anchor 2 lines to print on every page on a large spreadsheet in openoffice?
[11:00] <Le^stat> if anyone knows
[11:00] <[nrx] > Le^stat: #openoffice.org
[11:00] <Le^stat> ahhh
[11:00] <z9999> giox: Should I now go thru the sudo make distclean, make, again?
[11:00] <[nrx] > z9999: giox left
[11:01] <hjmills> morning all
[11:01] <panosru> what is this -> UUID=2699c485-76a3-4654-8f6c-787f9d0009e2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 0 ?
[11:01] <vicktor> d
[11:01] <hjmills> what config file holds the LC_ALL, LOCALE and LANGUAGE variables?
[11:02] <hjmills> panosru, a line from your fstab?
[11:02] <z9999> [nrx] :  Looks like the updates weren't as easy to do afterall.
[11:02] <Jowi> !info etoile gutsy
[11:02] <ubotu> Package etoile does not exist in gutsy
[11:02] <panosru> yes but what is this line? i try to find my ext3 second drive and can't find it there even if its mounted :/
[11:02] <hjmills> panosru, for and ext3 volume that you are mounting as root
[11:02] <panosru> i need to add a new line for my second hard drive?
[11:03] <hjmills> panosru, the uuid bit (funny numbers and stuff at the start) is a unique identifier for the partition. You can move the partition and it will still work.
[11:04] <panosru> oh i c so what i need to change from this line so i could make it exec ?
[11:04] <hjmills> panosru, yes, you can use /dev/sdb1 instead of the UUID or you can use vol_id -u /dev/sdb1 (as root) to find the uuid of the partition
[11:04] <hjmills> panosru, the only difference you may want for the root line is to make the last 0 a 1 (so it gets checked on boot in the first pass)
[11:05] <panosru> oh ok so i change it to 1 and reboot or log out is enough ?
[11:05] <hjmills> panosru, reboot - what are you trying to fix though?
[11:06] <Knight_On_White> hello , i am now on the terminal on "/media" (and i have 2 HDD named : disk-1 disk-2 ) i would like to copy the entire data from disk-1 to disk-2 what is the command for that ?
[11:06] <panosru> i need to execute apps from my second hard drive
[11:07] <shriphani> Knight_On_White: dd ?
[11:07] <vice> hi all i need to buy a computer (beige box) and want to make sure that i choose proper graphic card for ubuntu. are there any resources on this?
[11:07] <hjmills> Knight_On_White, cp -R disk-1/* disk-2/
[11:08] <sacredheart> Knight_On_White: cp -rp /media/disk-1 /media/disk-2
[11:08] <hjmills> Knight_On_White, i think
[11:08] <hjmills> vice, Nvidia is a very safe bet - they produce Linux drivers for all their cards afaik and there are open source drivers as well
[11:09] <Knight_On_White> sacredheart: thanks :) another thing if i want to do the same but with tar command ? (to copy all the data from disk-1 to an archive on disk-2)
[11:09] <hjmills> Knight_On_White, man tar
[11:10] <sacredheart> Knight_On_White: tar -cfv /media/disk-2/foo.tar /media/disk-1
[11:11] <codeshah> #cakephp
[11:14] <dgjones> !hardware | vice
[11:14] <ubotu> vice: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:16] <BennieMan> hi
[11:16] <hjmills> Hi BennieMan
[11:16] <Jest3r> Hiya
[11:16] <Knight_On_White> sacredheart: do u know how do i just store the data on archive without compression ? (tar)
[11:16] <BennieMan> hjmills, may i ask some question ?
[11:16] <[nrx] > !ask
[11:16] <hjmills> !ask | BennieMan
[11:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:16] <ubotu> BennieMan: please see above
[11:17] <hjmills> wow - ubotu got smarter since I was here last
[11:17] <z9999> Is there a channel dedicated to wireless problems? This appear to be the most difficult area to get help for ubuntu?
[11:17] <hjmills> z9999, what problems are you having?
[11:17] <[nrx] > hjmills: lol
[11:17] <BennieMan> im reading that in order to love an error i get i need to [sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list]
[11:17] <BennieMan> and then remove some text
[11:17] <BennieMan> but i dont see any there there
[11:17] <sacredheart> Knight_On_White: tar doesn't compress it unless you tell it to (my example didn't)
[11:18] <BennieMan> love-solve
[11:18] <BennieMan> love=solve
[11:18] <hjmills> BennieMan, can you pastebin the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list file please?
[11:18] <z9999> hjmills:  Just allowed the updates to be applied and it killed the wireless which took over 6 months to get to work.
[11:18] <BennieMan> hjmills, yes sure, moment please
[11:18] <hjmills> z9999, ouch - what wireless card?
[11:18] <sacredheart> Knight_On_White: The tar-file is just an file containing the file archive, sorta
[11:19] <hjmills> z9999, and what version of ubuntu?
[11:19] <z9999> hjmills: Broadcom 4311 in a Compaq notebook, ubuntu 6.06
[11:21] <brownie17> what's the quickest way to convert a pdf to .doc?
[11:21] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[11:22] <BennieMan> hjmills, here: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7572/untitledfg5.jpg
[11:23] <BennieMan> basicly, the advice im trying to follow is to: [remove the lines that reference "Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn _ - Release i386 (20070415)" and save the sources.list. ]
[11:24] <[nrx] > BennieMan: open up the /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the lines
[11:24] <shwouchk> oh, yes, btw
[11:24] <BennieMan> but when i type {sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list}, i get that stuff u see in the screenshot
[11:24] <shwouchk> it's really annoying that by defaut it is insalled searching for packages on the CD
[11:25] <[nrx] > it's empty :o
[11:25] <[nrx] > BennieMan: can you do a "locate sources.list"
[11:26] <BennieMan> [nrx]  will do it now, sec
[11:26] <dgjones> BennieMan, do you need a "/" before the etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:27] <[nrx] > dgjones: aha. jut noticed the title in nano of the scrnshot.
[11:27] <dgjones> BennieMan, looking at the image, its not showing one, just wonder if its not picking up the right folder because of it
[11:27] <shwouchk> isn't it /etc/apt-get?
[11:27] <[nrx] > BennieMan: yes you must have forgotten the leading /
[11:27] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[11:27] <[nrx] > shwouchk: the path for the repo list is /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <BennieMan> ok
[11:28] <hybernate> can some one tell me the best Mp3 player for Ubuntu if its not Amarok ?
[11:28] <BennieMan> i have have forgotten the leading / ... thank you guys
[11:28] <[nrx] > hybernate: xmms
[11:28] <[nrx] > BennieMan: np
[11:28] <Tomcat_> hybernate: Depends on who you ask. I like rhythmbox.
[11:28] <[nrx] > mplayer!
[11:29] <hybernate> k il try em and see what i like
[11:29] <jxxxt> I have some "midi" files that I want to convert to ogg or wav is this possible please//
[11:30] <digitalspaghetti> A little OT, Anyone here good with LAME?  It's giving me errors when I try encode an MP3 via the command line :(
[11:31] <h1st0> jxxxt: google is your friend
[11:31] <h1st0> digitalspaghetti: what sort of errors?
[11:31] <h1st0> !better | hybernate
[11:31] <ubotu> hybernate: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:32] <digitalspaghetti> h1st0, "fatal error during initialization"  - although I've found soundconvertor
[11:32] <digitalspaghetti> and that seems to have done it
[11:33] <jxxxt> hlst0, I am sure it,, is my daughter is waiting for a response to her  email is it possible under linux and what programme will I need??
[11:33] <luk3> hi could anyone help me with an ubuntu server problem?
[11:34] <luk3> i have an Acer ASM1600 machine with ubuntu server running
[11:34] <luk3> but it will not pick up my onboard network card
[11:35] <h1st0> jxxxt: http://convert-midi.com/midi-to-ogg.shtml
[11:35] <h1st0> jxxxt: first result in google.
[11:36] <jxxxt> hlst0, Many thanks.. Google is smart but it does not talk to me :-)
[11:36] <h1st0> jxxxt: http://yoten.blogspot.com/2007/07/convert-midi-to-wav.html  <<< linux solution
[11:36] <h1st0> jxxxt: you can sudo apt-get install timidity
[11:36] <h1st0> jxxxt: then timidity input.mid -Ow -o out.wav
[11:37] <z9999> How to acquire 'build' modules for 2.6.15-28-386 using a windows computer and place them on an ubuntu computer which now has no direct access to the internet?
[11:37] <h1st0> z9999: how did you upgrade the computer?
[11:37] <jxxxt> hlst0, Many thanks.. really appreciatte that thank you
[11:37] <h1st0> z9999: boot in to the old kernel so you have net.  Then install build-essentials
[11:38] <Tak4> hey all =)
[11:38] <h1st0> z9999: when the computer is coming on hit ESC key when it says GRUB  then select an older kernel .
[11:38] <h1st0> !hi | Tak4
[11:38] <ubotu> Tak4: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:38] <Tak4> =)
[11:38] <Tak4> people i've a fu**ing bug : /
[11:38] <Tak4> I installed gutsy
[11:38] <Tomcat_> !language
[11:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:38] <Tomcat_> !gutsy
[11:38] <UltraNav> anyone got a pointer on how to install a server with two completely mirrored disks ?
[11:38] <dgjones> !gusty | Tak4
[11:38] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <ubotu> Tak4: It is spelt !guTSy :)
[11:38] <Tak4> I have a nvidia card
[11:38] <macd> Anyone have troubles getting ntop to start after installing from repos?
[11:39] <Tak4> excuse me ^^
[11:39] <Tak4> gutsy
[11:39] <BennieMan> how do i save the sources.list after i chanced the text ?
[11:39] <Tak4> I do this mistake every time =)
[11:39] <h1st0> Tak4: read the message from ubotu gusty tlak is in #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <dgjones> Tak4, my wrong spelling for ubotu
[11:39] <macd> BennieMan, what editor are you in?
[11:39] <Tak4> ok excuse me
[11:39] <Tak4> I go there =)
[11:39] <BennieMan> macd sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:40] <macd> hit <crtl> + <x>
[11:40] <macd> then <y> to save
[11:40] <Jordan_U> BennieMan, The "^" at the bottom means ctrl
[11:40] <BennieMan> THANK YOU
[11:41] <UltraNav> any RAID experts here ?
[11:42] <h1st0> !any | UltraNav
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <h1st0> !anyone | UltraNav
[11:42] <ubotu> UltraNav: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:42] <UltraNav> ubotu: I tried, and no one reacted :-p
[11:43] <h1st0> UltraNav: build the raid then install ubuntu
[11:43] <h1st0> UltraNav: ubotu is a bot btw
[11:43] <Jest3r> lol
[11:43] <jxxxt> Ultranav, ubotu is not a person just a robot
[11:43] <jxxxt> sorry repeat
[11:43] <h1st0> UltraNav: is this a hardware or software raid?
[11:44] <UltraNav> software raid
[11:44] <ompaul> the bot ubotu is no more than a great piece of python code
[11:44] <h1st0> UltraNav: well you could use lvm
[11:44] <h1st0> UltraNav: ahh wait you want to mirror
[11:44] <h1st0> !raid | UltraNav
[11:44] <ubotu> UltraNav: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:45] <UltraNav> pffffft: This page does not exist yet.
[11:46] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[11:47] <z9999> hlst0: I just booted and allowed the updates to apply per advice from here. I don't know how to boot into the old kernel or if it is possible as we have ran commands that may have removed the files which the old kernel used by now. I'm not a ubuntu user myself so I'm working in the dark. The computer belongs to a friend who installed Linux per my suggestion thinking it would be less problems...
[11:47] <z9999> ...than a WinXP system for work purposes, not a gamer.
[11:48] <coffeelzp>
[11:48] <coffeelzp>
[11:49] <h1st0> !ch coffeelzp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch coffeelzp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <luk3> hi could anyone help me with a network card issue in ubuntu server?
[11:49] <macd> !cn coffeelzp
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cn coffeelzp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <faileas> !cn | coffeelzp
[11:49] <ubotu> coffeelzp: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[11:49] <macd> bleh
[11:49] <faileas> ;)
[11:49] <UltraNav> !nonsense h1st0
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonsense h1st0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <coffeelzp> I am chinese
[11:50] <h1st0> UltraNav: I was trying to give himt he trigger for a differnt language
[11:50] <coffeelzp> what are you talking about?
[11:50] <shwouchk> my ncurses got screwed (diplays many ?s and other weird signs) - how do I fix it?
[11:50] <UltraNav> h1st0: hope it was more successful than the pointer I got (empty page) :-)
[11:51] <h1st0> !locale shwouchk
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about locale shwouchk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <faileas> coffeelzp: apparently you said something in chinese... so we were trying to direct you to the language approptiate page ;)
[11:51] <faileas> h1st0: you need the |
[11:51] <coffeelzp> ubuntu -cn
[11:51] <z9999> hlst0: tried that and the old, (used to work), version no longer boots to a GUI, just a login screen.
[11:51] <h1st0> !locale | shwouchk
[11:51] <ubotu> shwouchk: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[11:51] <faileas> see?
[11:51] <coffeelzp> no thanks .\
[11:51] <coffeelzp> i like here
[11:51] <thill2708> I'm having problems with ubuntu seeing a blank dvd-r in the drive. what could be the problem? (it's a TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L632B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive)
[11:51] <h1st0> z9999: don't select the recoverymode option select the other one.
[11:51] <UltraNav> doesn't china have this cool "red flag linux" ?
[11:52] <shwouchk> h1st0: it is possible that it was cause by a locale switch, but I'm pretty sure I haven't touched locales on that box... anyway, it is 'en_us.UTF8' which is what I want
[11:52] <coffeelzp> where are you.
[11:52] <gordonjcp> thill2708: is there a blank dvd in the drive?
[11:52] <Jest3r> try other media
[11:52] <h1st0> lol
[11:52] <thill2708> gordonjcp: sure is
[11:52] <z9999> hlst0: I didn't select the recovery mode.
[11:52] <Jest3r> work out if its the media or the cd rom
[11:52] <h1st0> z9999: howmany options were there?
[11:52] <coffeelzp> I 've installed my linux just for a while.
[11:52] <coffeelzp> amazing
[11:53] <z9999> hlst0: There were 3 pairs of options, for 3 different kernel versions.
[11:53] <h1st0> z9999: try the third one down.  The kernel in the middle
[11:54] <jan_> can someone tell me where the group definitions for the gnome menu ?
[11:54] <jan_> is ?
[11:54] <thill2708> gordonjcp: any thoughts?
[11:56] <thill2708> has anyone else heard or seen of a dvd writer not being recognized as such?
[11:56] <d90> how to end all current X sessions?
[11:57] <h1st0> jan_: you mean system > administration > Users and Groups?
[11:57] <GNine> ctrl-alt-bckspce
[11:59] <animaletto> ciao
[11:59] <animaletto> come va?
[11:59] <tcr> Is there an easy way to disable C-M-<backspace> triggering sighup'ing X?
[12:01] <coffeelzp> Is ther a easy way to display desktop? shortcuts
[12:01] <hmhowie> windowsxp, how do i hate thee? let me count the ways... :( (hard day at the office)
[12:02] <Jest3r> lol
[12:02] <[nrx] > lol
[12:02] <coffeelzp> !help
[12:02] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:02] <coffeelzp> !help
[12:02] <rausb0> tcr: try Option "DontZap" in Section "ServerFlags" in xorg.conf
[12:03] <z9999> hlst0: That one gets to  *Loading manual drivers  and appears to have stopped doing anything.
[12:04] <coffeelzp> what's that?
[12:04] <tcr> rausb0: If I hand-edit xorg.conf, how does this play together with updating X at some point in future?
[12:05] <[nrx] > is there a way to find out if your pc is supporting opengl and it's working within ubuntu?
[12:06] <sylverfox> hi
[12:06] <rausb0> tcr: if the update mechanism detects changes in xorg.conf, it won't change the file during update. if you want it to be changes when updating, you'd say  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:06] <sylverfox> could somabody help me? I have a problem with terminal under ubuntu-gutsy
[12:07] <coffeelzp> say
[12:07] <Jest3r> Whats the problem?
[12:07] <jussi01> !ask | sylverfox
[12:07] <ubotu> sylverfox: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:08] <sylverfox> Jest3r: all the text I type in is invisibly small
[12:08] <tcr> rausb0: What about the automatic update notifier?
[12:08] <Crozar> webpirate ar eyou theyr
[12:08] <Jest3r> gnome or kde
[12:08] <rausb0> tcr: don't know
[12:09] <sylverfox> gnome
[12:09] <z9999> hlst0: Only the 2.6.15-29 version boots to a gui screen
[12:10] <Crozar> im using my brother computer now Windows becuase my ubuntu is :(:( imusing ubuntu 6.10 because i heard it fix many of the problems it had on 7 with old laptops becuase of conflict , but now another problem has raised with u6.10 its slower in processes 10 times slower , slower in response and internet is not working thats why im down here using windows
[12:11] <[nrx] > is there a way to find out if your pc is supporting opengl and it's working within ubuntu?
[12:11] <h1st0> z9999: what is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file?   Is bcm43xx in there?
[12:11] <rojanu> Hi! yesterday after an update fonts went carzy, in terminal, kvirc and netbeans fonts arenot readable
[12:11] <h1st0> z9999: my name is h then number 1  not L
[12:11] <ompaul> rojanu, what version are you running?
[12:11] <Jest3r> sylverfox: is my pm working?
[12:11] <rojanu> gutsy
[12:12] <h1st0> ompaul: bet that was shwouchk problem also
[12:12] <sylverfox> pm?
[12:12] <ompaul> rojanu, please talk in #ubuntu+1 for gutsy it is the beta version thanks
[12:12] <jo__> ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH OPEN COMPUTER VISION???
[12:12] <[nrx] > !caps
[12:12] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:12] <ompaul> !shout | jo__
[12:12] <ubotu> jo__: please see above
[12:12] <luk3> hi could someone plase help me with a network card issue ? i would be very greatful
[12:12] <Jest3r> Hmm, it would seam that i have a different version of IRC
[12:12] <rojanu> ompaul, thanks
[12:12] <Jest3r> sylverfox: what happened when you changed the font size in the profile editor of the gnome term?
[12:12] <[nrx] > Jest3r: you can't pm unless your nickname is registered
[12:12] <h1st0> !someone | luk3
[12:12] <ubotu> luk3: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:13] <jo__> ! botsnack | ompaul
[12:13] <ubotu> ompaul: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:13] <Jest3r> thanks nrx
[12:13] <sylverfox> nothing
[12:13] <Pupeno>  How do I re-install the configuration of a package?
[12:13] <luk3> i have an acer machine with onboard lanard and i have just loaded ubuntu server onto the machine. it does not appear to be detecting the lan card
[12:14] <luk3> i do not know how to find out what chipset it is either
[12:14] <jo__> i did not shout, thats just the caps lock that i use a lot under other programs
[12:14] <sylverfox> Jest3r: it has no effect
[12:14] <shwouchk> h1st0: what was ompaul's problem?
[12:14] <luk3> it is an acer asm1600
[12:14] <z9999> h1st0: Sorry my eyesight is poor, bcm43xx is still blacklisted
[12:14] <Crozar> guys any1 know what is wrong with Ubuntu6.10 , internet is not working at all , its state is idle , it sends buffer to try to get response but the recieveing is slow sometimes 10kb per 4 minutes , isnt this becuase it need to arp the macaddress of router? but with ubuntu7 didnt seem to have any of this problems it was working fine
[12:14] <jo__> anybody familiar with open computer vision also called openCV
[12:14] <Jest3r> Very strange, do any other options change when you save them?
[12:15] <sylverfox> yes
[12:15] <sylverfox> I used transparent background
[12:16] <ompaul> jo__, no idea, there is an accessibility  in the menu, so it could be the same thing I have no idea
[12:16] <luk3> is anyone familiar with this type of problem? it is quite urgent
[12:16] <sylverfox> and aftyer changing it works
[12:16] <ompaul> jo__, click on system and accessibility and poke around in there
[12:16] <ompaul> luk3, can you log into it?
[12:17] <z9999> h1st0: We had the wireless working under 2.6.15-28, which no longer boots at all.
[12:17] <luk3> es the machine works fine its just it hasnt got the lan card working
[12:17] <sylverfox> Jest3r: I just updated my system to gusty
[12:17] <sylverfox> gutsy
[12:17] <h1st0> z9999: Well another option is to install the firmware from the driver you have in your ~
[12:17] <h1st0> z9999: but you would still need fw-cutter
[12:17] <h1st0> z9999: did you sudo ndiswrapper -m  yet??
[12:17] <Jordan_U> sylverfox, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[12:17] <ompaul> luk3, try >> sudo dhclient << at the command line and see if it can grab some connectivity
[12:17] <h1st0> shwouchk: are you using gusty?
[12:18] <shwouchk> h1st0: feisty
[12:18] <pedro78> ola
[12:18] <[nrx] > is there a way to find out if ubuntu has detected opengl and that it's running? this is in prep. for compiz or such like
[12:18] <h1st0> shwouchk: something just happened with gusty updates that has the same effect as your problem.
[12:18] <sylverfox> Jordan_U: I don't understand you
[12:18] <luk3> o broadcast nterface found
[12:18] <pedro78> hello
[12:18] <luk3> no*
[12:18] <h1st0> [nrx] : glxinfo | grep render
[12:18] <[nrx] > h1st0: thanks :)
[12:18] <luk3> it gave me an error when i installed the system saying no network interface was found
[12:19] <h1st0> [nrx] : your looking fro direct rendering
[12:19] <shwouchk> h1st0: I see
[12:19] <shwouchk> h1st0: any idea how to fix it?
[12:19] <luk3> it is pluged into my home switch though
[12:19] <Nighthawk420> howdy everyone... my screen is very small and centered in the middle of my screen... big black borderes around the gui...anyone able to help me?
[12:19] <[nrx] > h1st0:
[12:19] <[nrx] > direct rendering: No
[12:19] <[nrx] > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:19] <h1st0> shwouchk: No idea
[12:19] <h1st0> [nrx] : that means open gl isn't there.
[12:19] <ompaul> luk3, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html  have a look at that it should be similar enough to help
[12:19] <h1st0> [nrx] : what type of video card do you have?
[12:19] <Jordan_U> sylverfox, We don't support Gutsy in #ubuntu, for Bug reporting / discussion and minimal support for gutsy join #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <[nrx] > it's some kind of builtin ati thing.. on a laptop
[12:20] <Crozar> any1 know what is wrong with Ubuntu6.10 , internet is not working at all , its state is idle , it sends buffer to try to get response but the recieveing is slow sometimes 10kb per 4 minutes , isnt this becuase it need to arp the macaddress of router? but with ubuntu7 didnt seem to have any of this problems it was working fine
[12:20] <h1st0> [nrx] : Yeah you will need drivers
[12:20] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk420, What GPU?
[12:20] <h1st0> [nrx] : lspci | grep VGA
[12:20] <sylverfox> ok Jordan_YOU now I got it
[12:20] <[nrx] > h1st0: blank
[12:20] <d90> I cannot load gnome desktop manager (/etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[12:20] <Nighthawk420> Jordan_U wwats a GPU?
[12:20] <[nrx] > wait
[12:20] <[nrx] > lol
[12:20] <h1st0> [nrx] : huh?  try just lspci and look for your video adapter
[12:20] <[nrx] > <-idiot
[12:21] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk420, Your graphics card
[12:21] <[nrx] > h1st0: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[12:21] <Jordan_U> d90, Try "sudo killall gdm"
[12:21] <h1st0> Nighthawk420: graphics processing unit
[12:21] <Nighthawk420> o oka
[12:21] <Nighthawk420> ati radeon mobility x1300
[12:21] <luk3> that just assumes everything is ok , and guides for setting up the network
[12:21] <Nighthawk420> its been working fine til last night
[12:21] <h1st0> [nrx] : hold up let me see what drivers you need
[12:21] <[nrx] > h1st0: thanks very much
[12:22] <Crozar> h1st0 any idea why internet is idle and not working?
[12:22] <d90> Jordan_U, I cant start :(,  I can only stop it
[12:22] <clip> what shortcut can i switch desktops with?
[12:22] <Jordan_U> d90, Try starting it after running "sudo killall gdm"
[12:22] <d90> "Starting GNOME Display Manager..." FAIL
[12:22] <d90> Tryed
[12:23] <rausb0> clip: ctrl-alt-cursor left/right
[12:23] <z9999> h1st0: Not familiar with fw-cutter at all. "sudo ndiswrapper -m"  says command not found . Ran sudo make uninstall, but sudo make fails as there is no build directory found in /lib/modules/2.6.15-29-386
[12:23] <Jordan_U> clip, ctrl+alt+arrow keys
[12:23] <Jordan_U> z9999, What chipset?
[12:23] <Crozar> im afraid just lookin at those posts will i get those problems ? am i now in stage 4 of ubuntu problems and everyday 1 person helpsme with 1 stage :s
[12:23] <h1st0> [nrx] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:24] <divan> Hello all! :)
[12:24] <sarthorkhan> http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html Need help if my ips are dynamic,
[12:24] <Nighthawk420> hey Jordan_U you got any ideas?
[12:24] <divan> I've got a random problem hope someone can help me with
[12:24] <Crozar> hi
[12:24] <divan> If I boot my "server" it boots and one interface is assigned eth2
[12:24] <Crozar> ok divan did u have internet problem ?
[12:24] <xxxentoog> hey
[12:24] <Crozar> like idle state
[12:24] <divan> then I reboot and the same interface is assigned eth1 not eth2 .
[12:24] <z9999> Jordan_U: Wireless CS? Broadcom 4311
[12:24] <JenZbe> a 'random problem' :)
[12:24] <divan> this causes problems with shorewall, how do you troubleshoot or set this?
[12:24] <xxxentoog> i just got a really old ass laptop and it wont boot from cd
[12:24] <divan> i think I know how in Red Hat / Centos, but /kubuntu/debian not sure??
[12:24] <vicktor> i was trying to make an archive of my entire HDD : "tar -cfv /media/disk-2/backup.tar /media disk-1" after a while i get a msg "file size limit exceeded (core dumped) ?
[12:25] <Crozar> ok i cant help u with that lol
[12:25] <xxxentoog> but i can boot from floppy and then boot from cd with win98 boot floppy
[12:25] <GamingX> Hello guys, I am currently using Evolution, but I want to switch over to Thunderbird, with all my mails and settings, Anyone?
[12:25] <d90> any ideas why Starting GNOME Display Manager fails?
[12:25] <divan> Crozar: really ? :)
[12:25] <xxxentoog> is there a way to boot grub from a win 98 boot floppy i can dir into the grub dir
[12:25] <Nighthawk420> d90 do u hav ati?>
[12:25] <d90> yes
[12:25] <Crozar> what more do i know im askin if u had a problem with network so maybe some1 helped u before that u can remmember and help meif u dont mind
[12:25] <Jordan_U> z9999, That should work with the native drivers, all you need to do is install the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter" and unblacklist bcm43xx if it is blacklisted
[12:25] <d90> iBook machintosh
[12:26] <xxxentoog> anyone know?
[12:26] <Crozar> what?
[12:26] <Nighthawk420> hey Jordan_U you got any ideas?
[12:27] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk420, Are you using the open source drivers or fglrx?
[12:27] <Crozar> any1 know what is wrong with Ubuntu6.10 , internet is not working at all , its state is idle , it sends buffer to try to get response but the recieveing is slow sometimes 10kb per 4 minutes , isnt this becuase it need to arp the macaddress of router? hey with live cd it downloaded package it was working suddenly it didnt
[12:27] <GamingX> Hello guys, I am currently using Evolution, but I want to switch over to Thunderbird, with all my mails and settings, Anyone knows how to do this?
[12:27] <vicktor> i was trying to make an archive of my entire HDD : "tar -cfv /media/disk-2/backup.tar /media disk-1" after a while i get a msg "file size limit exceeded (core dumped) what is the problem ??
[12:27] <divan> Crozar: no one helped me before
[12:27] <Nighthawk420> fglrx
[12:28] <xxxentoog> i'm sure it's just a command to tell grub to start?
[12:28] <divan> just wondering if anyone knows how to set which network card gets assigned to which eth address
[12:28] <z9999> Jordan_U: We spent over 6 months before getting it to work the first time and currently have no means of installing anything from the internet.
[12:28] <Jordan_U> Crozar, Any reason why you havn't upgraded to Feisty?
[12:28] <Nighthawk420> Jordan_U, i am using fglrx
[12:28] <dgjones> !grub | xxxentoog, Have a look at ubotu's factoid, that refers to creating grub boot floppies, maybe it'll help
[12:28] <ubotu> xxxentoog, Have a look at ubotu's factoid, that refers to creating grub boot floppies, maybe it'll help: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:28] <divan> because mine keeps changeing...
[12:28] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk420, can you pastebin the output of "sudo modprobe fglrx" if any ?
[12:28] <xxxentoog> hmmm
[12:28] <xxxentoog> well linux is on a cd
[12:28] <rausb0> divan: look at /etc/iftab and change it accordingly
[12:28] <xxxentoog> but i cant get the laptop to boot from it
[12:29] <xxxentoog> so i thought if i knew the command i could get grub to boot from win98 boot floppy with the live cd
[12:29] <Jordan_U> xxxentoog, Does the laptop boot from other CDs ?
[12:29] <xxxentoog> no
[12:29] <xxxentoog> but the cd works
[12:29] <xxxentoog> i can browse the contents from win 98 floppy
[12:29] <Jordan_U> !install | xxxentoog
[12:29] <ubotu> xxxentoog: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:29] <Nighthawk420> Jordan_U there was no terminal output
[12:29] <xxxentoog> the cd i am trying in mepis
[12:30] <dgjones> xxxentoog, sounds like you need to modify your boot order in your computers bios so that boot from cd is before the hdd
[12:30] <divan> rausb0: awesome will try that!! Thanks!!
[12:30] <xxxentoog> since it's small
[12:30] <xxxentoog> yeah i tried the boot order
[12:30] <xxxentoog> still didn't work
[12:30] <xxxentoog> i dont have a hdd
[12:30] <xxxentoog> i have to boot from floppy
[12:30] <Jordan_U> Nighthawk420, Can you pastebin the output of "glxinfo" ?
[12:30] <xxxentoog> but you said there is a grub floppy that will let you boot from cd
[12:30] <xxxentoog> ?
[12:31] <xxxentoog> i'm just trying to boot a live cd
[12:31] <Jordan_U> xxxentoog, On the page I linked to there are instructions for a floppy install
[12:31] <xxxentoog> i cant install ubuntu
[12:31] <Crozar> its not this ,my laptop is old and feisty will not give me full screen 1024 res with 3d accelerator enabled , its a bug conflict with new technology towards my laptop hardware
[12:31] <xxxentoog> it's 150mhz 15 meg ram
[12:32] <Jordan_U> xxxentoog, That is far too little for the standard liveCD anyway
[12:32] <dgjones> xxxentoog, ubuntu livecd generally needs 256Mb of ram to install comfortably
[12:32] <xxxentoog> ok
[12:32] <divan> - /etc/iftab is exactly what im looking for!! :) wahoo
[12:32] <xxxentoog> what linux distro can i use with that
[12:32] <Nighthawk420> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/701721
[12:32] <feisty> sa jacy polacy
[12:32] <divan> thanks rausb0
[12:32] <xxxentoog> i just want internet
[12:32] <dgjones> !pl | feisty
[12:32] <Crozar> somebody had same laptop of myne and said just go to ubuntu6.10 and overwrite this xorg.conf file with what u have and u will have urs running fine  but now im expiriencing internet idle state and Computer response is slow very slow when opening firefox needs 8 - 10 seconds its like its slow unresponsive
[12:32] <Jordan_U> xxxentoog, DSL ( Damn Small Linux )
[12:32] <ubotu> feisty: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:32] <xxxentoog> there is a guy running slackware i guess i read online
[12:33] <xxxentoog> yeah i have dsl but i cant get it to boot from cd
[12:33] <feisty> thx:)
[12:33] <xxxentoog> thats why i need a floppy that will boot a cd
[12:33] <xxxentoog> hence why i used win 98 floppy with cdrom support
[12:33] <[nrx] > guys, I don't have this menu "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" - can anyone suggest another way of getting to this administration menu or the restricted drivers menu?
[12:34] <dgjones> xxxentoog, sounds like your computer doesn't support booting from cd, which i suppose is a possibility looking at the specification you mentioned and possibly its age
[12:34] <xxxentoog> yes
[12:34] <Crozar> nrx u want to enable the 3d acceleartor?
[12:34] <[nrx] > Crozar: aye
[12:34] <Crozar> nvidia?
[12:34] <[nrx] > ati
[12:34] <Jordan_U> xxxentoog, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/network-install.html
[12:34] <xxxentoog> but there has to be a floppy prog that will boot a cd linux
[12:34] <xxxentoog> it doesn't have network
[12:34] <xxxentoog> i have to install from floppy
[12:34] <Crozar> well :/ check go in sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:35] <xxxentoog> but it has to be live since i have no hdd
[12:35] <Crozar> with nvidia cards down in driver device and options i will see near driver
[12:35] <Crozar> nv = no accelerator and nvidia = accelerator
[12:35] <xxxentoog> there really isn't a live grub floppy image?
[12:35] <dgjones> !grub | xxxentoog, go to the second link in the factoid - that explains about grub boot floppies
[12:35] <ubotu> xxxentoog, go to the second link in the factoid - that explains about grub boot floppies: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:35] <[nrx] > Crozar: that's not what i'm after, i just want to get into the Retricted Drivers Manager
[12:35] <Crozar> but with ati u can google that
[12:36] <Crozar> why u like to play with eye candy , most people here will help u by typign things in terminal because its faster then telling go theyr go here
[12:36] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. anyone know of any package i can get to run a remote download service? basically, i want to order downloads on a server in my office, and allow my flat mates to order downloads also with a login mechanism, and i'll take things home on the lappy at the end of each day.
[12:36] <[nrx] > Crozar: i know this and i've been a linux user or quite a while but i just want to see the menu lol
[12:36] <Crozar> but after u do all this u can save ur xorg and all the other important files and logs and put them in floppy for a fresh install in diffrent systems thats what im doing.
[12:37] <brdi> hey hoy
[12:37] <brdi> someone here ?
[12:37] <brdi> have a problem
[12:37] <brdi> with
[12:37] <brdi> smbfs
[12:37] <z9999> If we can get the wireless to work again, I promise to never allow another kernel update again.
[12:37] <brdi> in fstab
[12:37] <juan_> Hello
[12:37] <Crozar> brdi stop pressing enter as punctuation
[12:37] <NET||abuse> brdi, carriage return is not punctuation
[12:37] <brdi> sory
[12:37] <Le^stat> heh
[12:37] <juan_> I need to install a mail-server, wich you recommend?
[12:37] <NET||abuse> juan_, I like postfix :)
[12:37] <Crozar> any1 seen webpirate or tvrg
[12:38] <NET||abuse> juan_, of course that doesn't do the mailbox stuff,, dovecot is good also
[12:38] <ompaul> !samba | brdi
[12:38] <ubotu> brdi: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:38] <brdi> am how to mount smb in fstab
[12:38] <brdi> in start of the comp ?
[12:38] <juan_> NET||abuse, i need a DNS server too ?
[12:38] <[nrx] > guys, I don't have this menu "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" - can anyone suggest another way of getting to this administration menu or the restricted drivers menu?
[12:38] <NET||abuse> juan_, bind
[12:38] <jussi01> !offtopic | Crozar
[12:38] <GamingX> Hello guys, I am currently using Evolution, but I want to switch over to Thunderbird, with all my mails and settings, Anyone knows how to do this?
[12:38] <ubotu> Crozar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:38] <brdi> yes but this thing dont work
[12:38] <juan_> NET||abuse, But, for install a mail server, i need really a dns server?
[12:38] <Nighthawk420> GamingX you need to get them from the Add Remove apps first i believe
[12:39] <NET||abuse> juan_, no, just point dns to somewhere else
[12:39] <juan_> NET||abuse, allright man, thx you
[12:39] <juan_> NET||abuse, cya dude
[12:39] <brdi> and what is the fastes web browser in ubuntu ?
[12:39] <GamingX> Nighthawk420: How?
[12:39] <NET||abuse> brdi, telnet
[12:40] <NET||abuse> brdi, curl is pretty fast too
[12:40] <brdi> tnx i go to test him :D
[12:40] <Crozar> im using my brother computer now Windows becuase my ubuntu is :(:( imusing ubuntu 6.10 because i heard it fix many of the problems it had on 7 with old laptops becuase of conflict , but now another problem has raised with u6.10 its slower in processes 10 times slower , slower in response and internet is not workin
[12:40] <brdi> sory for my bad englis
[12:40] <Nighthawk420> applications->Add Remove Apps-> then in the drop down menu at the top right pick all available, then search restricted
[12:40] <brdi> but i am an slovenian guy :D
[12:40] <vicktor> can someone recommand me on good graphic software for partitions management ? (someting like partition magic) ?
[12:40] <NET||abuse> So does anyone know how i can manage a download queue on a server with some kind of login/control panel system?
[12:41] <dgjones> !gparted | vicktor
[12:41] <ubotu> vicktor: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[12:42] <pookey> hey all - how do I find out what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[12:42] <dgjones> !version | pookey
[12:42] <ubotu> pookey: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:43] <ZimRacer> !version
[12:43] <[nrx] > !fixres
[12:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:43] <jrib> NET||abuse: heh, I was looking for something similar once and could never find it.  I've been meaning to write one when I found the time.  What you can do is just use ssh user@host wget foo
[12:43] <pookey> dgjones: thanks
[12:43] <Crozar> im using my brother computer now Windows becuase my ubuntu is :(:( imusing ubuntu 6.10 because i heard it fix many of the problems it had on 7 with old laptops becuase of conflict , but now another problem has raised with u6.10 its slower in processes 10 times slower , slower in response and internet is not workin
[12:44] <xxxentoog> hmm
[12:44] <Crozar> i want to fix internet idle state for ubuntu6.10 , and the unresponsive slow processes
[12:44] <xxxentoog> is there any linux that has gui that will boot from afloppy
[12:44] <xxxentoog> ?
[12:44] <vicktor> does linux partitions have file size limit ? (fat32 have file size limit of 4GB)
[12:44] <Crozar> can some1 help pleaase.
[12:45] <jrib> !ru | vip
[12:45] <ompaul> !ru | vip
[12:45] <ubotu> vip:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:46] <berent> gpg
[12:46] <berent> !gpg
[12:46] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[12:46] <fsdf> #PvPGN
[12:47] <Crozar> internet is idle! people somebody tell me if the unresponsive programs and slow occurance of u6.10 is responsible for internet idle state ? or some arp mac address authentication requreiance
[12:47] <bullgard4> I read the headline of /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20/drivers/mtd/mtdblock.c "Direct MTD block device access" What does 'MTD' stand for?
[12:48] <Pupeno_> do you know how do I append more domain names to "search" in /etc/resolv.conf from /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3-client.conf?
[12:48] <thux> why launchpad say " Bugs in Gutsy gnome-terminal" "There are currently no open bugs." ?
[12:48] <sarthorkhan> I am new to linux, Will it work in the case if ips are dynamic? http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[12:49] <NET||abuse> jrib, do you fancy starting a gui project for such an app? i think i found a java based download queue daemon
[12:49] <macd> sarthorkhan, yes it will, just fine.
[12:49] <vicktor> someone know if ubuntu partitions (ext3) have file size limit like on fat32 ?
[12:49] <jrib> NET||abuse: not really interested in a gui, so that would wait
[12:50] <macd> vicktor, ext3 can grow to 16tb
[12:50] <NET||abuse> jrib, basically it seems to run on a simple text queue of urls with cookie options and things,, and so we could just build a gui in php or something?
[12:50] <sarthorkhan> macd, one of my etheris ppp0 and the others isp is on eth1, while my users are on eth0, So Can i use copy paste , or need to make some changes?
[12:50] <berent> getting errors while apt-get update  as gzip error . what should i do??
[12:50] <[nrx] > can someone have a look at this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37772/ ) and help me out please? this was after following the instructions for setting up opengl
[12:50] <NET||abuse> jrib, oh, but are you still interested in a queue'ing system?
[12:51] <jrib> NET||abuse: yes
[12:51] <macd> sarthorkhan, sounds like your using that box as a gateway/router/nat device correct?
[12:51] <z9999> I have build-essential 11.1 installed, but /lib/modules/2.6.15-29-386 lacks a build directory, while /lib/modules/2.6.16-28-386 has one. Can I copy it to the latest kernel directory and then be able to run a 'sudo make' command for ndiswrapper?
[12:51] <magnolia> hello
[12:51] <sarthorkhan> macd, Yes.
[12:51] <NET||abuse> jrib, hmm, it's a little inactive though, http://sourceforge.net/projects/dmachine/
[12:52] <NET||abuse> jrib, something like this only having activity within the last year would be nicer.. :(
[12:52] <macd> sarthorkhan, then you need to have a look @ iptables, for masq and forwarding. look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972 for answers
[12:52] <berent> getting errors while apt-get update  as gzip error . what should i do??
[12:52] <berent> getting errors while apt-get update  as gzip error . what should i do??
[12:53] <NET||abuse> jrib, what do you reakon?
[12:53] <sarthorkhan> macd, using /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dport 1:65535   -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[12:53] <NET||abuse> berent, paste the error, and don't ask twice, people are techy in here
[12:53] <sarthorkhan> macd, using /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p udp --dport 1:65535   -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[12:53] <Jordan_U> z9999, sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper, though I think you should try the native drivers
[12:53] <jrib> NET||abuse: might be worth a try, at least you can see what you like about it and what you would change
[12:53] <macd> sarthorkhan, that should work fine, does 'iptables -l' confirm those are active?
[12:54] <[nrx] > can someone have a look at this ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37772/ ) and help me out please? this was after following the instructions for setting up opengl
[12:54] <sarthorkhan> macd, yes. active,
[12:54] <sarthorkhan> macd, i am a bit confused, that how my linux box will understand my ether ppp0 ?
[12:54] <NET||abuse> jrib, would you try it? or use something more recent?
[12:54] <macd> sarthorkhan, should work in that case, do you have DHCPD running on eth0 ? those clients need IP's
[12:54] <jrib> NET||abuse: I can't find anything more recent
[12:55] <berent> !paste
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <NET||abuse> jrib, me either, supprising really isn't it?
[12:55] <sarthorkhan> macd, Yes my dhcpd is running, and assigning ips to my clients.
[12:55] <macd> sarthorkhan, but clients get no internet connectivity? and ppp0 is active? can the box running iptables ping internet?
[12:55] <evol2> Is there a way to completely remove a program from the teminal? "apt-get remove [program] " doesnt work
[12:56] <z9999> Jordan_U: Will the 'sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper' work without an internet connection? And we had no success trying to get the native drivers to work previously, following instructions online.
[12:56] <sarthorkhan> macd, Very Very Sorry my brother, i am going to start that setup, not started yet, i will start that process now.
[12:56] <sarthorkhan> :)
[12:56] <Jordan_U> z9999, What instructions?
[12:56] <macd> sarthorkhan, god luck.
[12:57] <macd> good*
[12:57] <sarthorkhan> macd, thank you.. i will be back to you for  help if i got stuck.
[12:57] <sarthorkhan> bye.
[12:57] <[nrx] > nm, sorted it
[12:57] <Jordan_U> z9999, Did you un blacklist bcm43xx and did you install bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[12:57] <berent> can anyone check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37773/
[12:57] <berent> NET||abuse ^
[12:57] <dfgdf> irc.fansub-irc.org
[12:57] <dfgdf> oups dsl
[12:58] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know how to play midis in amarok?
[12:58] <NET||abuse> berent, heh, what'd i do to be blessed with your paste :P
[12:59] <z9999> Jordan_U: Instructions from this IRC channel. And how do we install bcm43xx-fwcutter? We're working from an IBM pc running winxp right now as the Ubuntu system can no longer access the internet after applying the updates and rebooting.
[12:59] <berent> !gpgkey
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpgkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <NET||abuse> berent, usually just a problem with decoding the package list tar.gz file,
[12:59] <berent> NET||abuse : how to rectify it?
[12:59] <NET||abuse> berent, maybe you don't have the right key, or the url is out of date for those sources?
[12:59] <berent> NET||abuse : whats the command to install gpgkey
[01:00] <Jordan_U> z9999, Ahh, do you remember where you got the firmware from?
[01:00] <Jordan_U> z9999, I assume you have a way to transfer files to the PC with a USB drive or something?
[01:00] <z9999> Jordan_U: a search of the system finds no bcm43xx-fwcutter on the system.
[01:01] <NET||abuse> berent, first, pastebin your sources.lit file?
[01:01] <NET||abuse> berent, sources.list rather,, lit.. doh
[01:01] <Doomguy0505> Are there any gstreamers for midi files?
[01:01] <z9999> Jordan_U: right now all we can do is burn to a CD and transfer. Not the best situation. Loaned out the USB drive and hasn't been returned yet.
[01:02] <Doomguy0505> At least a midi to mod converter?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> z9999, OK, first lets check that bcm43xx isn't blacklisted
[01:03] <z9999> Jordan_U: it is but can be unblacklisted easily using ed.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> z9999, Unblacklist it
[01:04] <Doomguy0505> Surely something as simple as midi is possible?
[01:04] <[nrx] > can someone tell me how i can get to the "Restricted Drivers" menu?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> z9999, And try running "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" it will probably complain about missing firmware
[01:04] <z9999> Jordan_U: Main thing is we don't wish to lose our research data.
[01:04] <evol2> How do I see the MAC-adress of an interface?
[01:04] <Avulture> guys i have a problem.. and windows users didn't solve it.. guys when i install a medical CD,, a message pop up and says ODBC is blocked setup won't continue
[01:04] <wxc> ubuntu is good!
[01:05] <wxc> ok
[01:05] <evol2> This chanel has too many users.
[01:05] <vicktor> how can i checked if this ports 6444/6445 are open in my system ? (ubunto 7.04)
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Avulture, Is this a Linux Program?
[01:05] <berent> NET||abuse : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37774/
[01:05] <vicktor> checked = check
[01:05] <berent> NET||abuse : this is my sources.list
[01:05] <Avulture> Jordan_U, nope for sure, and i know this is a LInux system. but i know many users could use both OSes
[01:06] <NET||abuse> berent, hmm, ok, hehe, you updated all the way from badger,,
[01:06] <Avulture> besides Linux users are better than windows users
[01:06] <berent> NET||abuse : yeah.
[01:06] <NET||abuse> berent, that's stick to it ness for yah :P
[01:06] <z9999> Jordan_U: sudo modprobe bcm43xx just returns a prompt
[01:06] <berent> NET||abuse : what??
[01:07] <Jordan_U> z9999, what about "iwconfig" ?
[01:07] <NET||abuse> berent, never mind.. I was being gratulatory
[01:07] <Ricanelite> Hello everyone! I will be installing Ubuntu Linux on my gateway notebook running a AMD Turion 64x2 with 2gig's of RAM will it run fine?
[01:07] <vicktor> how i open ports on ubuntu 7.04 ? can someone plz help me
[01:07] <Doomguy0505> If it doesn't exist, don't be scared to tell me!
[01:08] <tdn> I have problems starting Firefox over SSH with X-forwarding. I have three hosts: A, B and C. Host A is local to me. I SSH with ssh -YC to B. From B I SSH with ssh-YC to C. From C I start Firefox. When nothing happens I strace the Firefox process and get this: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P957.html (output from strace). I hope you can help.
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> vicktor: firestarter or iptables, but all ports are open by default
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> so if you haven't deliberately closed them then they're all open
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, You just want to play midi files?
[01:08] <Doomguy0505> Yes
[01:08] <digispag|away> Does anyone know a tool for Ubuntu that can cleaverly rotate images?  I have a a bunch of about 7000 images, some are normal, some are rotated and I need to rotate those ones to normal
[01:08] <berent> NET||abuse :i have a feisty cd but wanted to test out feisty. i have my own working fine. i am installing another and just copied the sources.list . but there seems to be some problem
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, Install timidity
[01:09] <digispag|away> i don't want to have to open the 3000 or so roatated images one by one and save them
[01:09] <Ricanelite> Now my biggest worry is I want to install Unbuntu and Windows Vista and have a dual boot
[01:09] <Doomguy0505> already did
[01:09] <NET||abuse> berent, like we both mentioned, if you just copied the sources.list, you probably don't have the gpg key added.
[01:09] <ffighter> hello... which version of VMWare is free for Linux ?
[01:09] <Ricanelite> is that fine to do and is it hard? Will I lose any data?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> digispag|away, Look into imagemagic
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> digispag|away: at a guess, fspot might do it?
[01:09] <Jordan_U> ffighter, player and server
[01:09] <berent> NET||abuse : how to add it. that was my 1st doubt.
[01:10] <ddalton> ok where can I get the live cd for ubuntu from?
[01:10] <un_dave> i created a software raid 5 array, then rebooted my pc. how do i reassemble/restart that array ?
[01:10] <z9999> Jordan_U: Unblacklisted bcm43xx, iwconfig shows lo, eth0, and sit0, each followed by 'no wireless extensions'.
[01:10] <ddalton> Where can I get the livecd for ubuntu from?
[01:10] <ffighter> Jordan_U, Is the player enough to set up a Windows VM locally ?
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> un_dave: mdadm should have done it automatically, but if you google for "mdadm" you should be able to find instructions
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> !raid
[01:10] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:11] <AskHL_> digispag|away, how would the program know whether the images are rotated? Are they sorted already? Not that I know how to do this with any particular program, I would write a script to do it...
[01:11] <digispag|away> Ok, I'll try FSpot SlimeyPete, thanks
[01:11] <Jordan_U> ffighter, I think if you create a vmx file with a web site it is, but vmware server can actually create new virtual machines
[01:11] <ddalton> does anyone know I can't read all these messages (blind)
[01:11] <Ricanelite> can anyone give me some information where I could do a dual boot for Windows Vista and Ubuntu Linux and a good chance I wont loose any data?? Is that possible?
[01:11] <digispag|away> AskHL_, i suppose i;m looking for something that can do it in a batch
[01:11] <digispag|away> at the moment i have to double click, wait for it to open, then save it
[01:12] <Jordan_U> AskHL, Some cameras store the orientation information in meta-data
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Ricanelite: you'd be insane to try it w/o a backup... its a slim chance, but there's been several here who'ev hosed XP/Vista while installing.
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> myself included
[01:12] <ffighter> Jordan_U, So, I would have to get the two, use the server to create the VM and the player to run it ?
[01:13] <Ricanelite> well I have most of my Pictures, Music, and important files already backed up
[01:13] <berent> Jordan_U : can u tell me how i get a gpg key
[01:13] <ffighter> Jordan_U, Workstation is an easier, bundled way to do that I suppose
[01:13] <Jordan_U> Ricanelite, Just use Vista to resize the NTFS partition and it should be fine ( learn how to restore your MBR also )
[01:13] <Ricanelite> MBR?
[01:13] <NET||abuse> berent, well, visit the urls for the deb's you have that are causing errors, look for a gpg file there, then run the command wget http://url.to.deb/keyfile.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:13] <Ricanelite> what is that?
[01:13] <AskHL_> digispag|away, ok. It sounds a bit imagemagick-ish as someone already mentioned
[01:14] <Jordan_U> ffighter, Server can create and run them
[01:14] <Jordan_U> ffighter, player can just run them
[01:14] <Ricanelite> Okay I just pop-in the Windows Vista CD and it will let me resize the harddrive or what?
[01:14] <ffighter> Jordan_U, And workstation ?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> ffighter, I would assume that it can do both also, but it is not free IIRC
[01:14] <Doomguy0505> Jordan_U: Does it convert midis to wavs?
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, Yes
[01:14] <berent> NET||abuse : u mean us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <incorrect> what is the best bit of software to use to monitoring your systems?
[01:15] <NET||abuse> berent, yeh, probably, that's the one with the error yets?
[01:15] <marhi> olaaa
[01:15] <Doomguy0505> Jordan_U: What is the command? i tried: timidity -o outfile infile and timidity infile -o outfile and neither worked
[01:15] <berent> NET||abuse : ok. then
[01:16] <berent> oh ok running command fine
[01:16] <berent> NET||abuse : is it keyfile.gpg or Release.gpg
[01:16] <NET||abuse> emm, where's keyfile.gpg? i don't see it there
[01:17] <Ricanelite> How do I partition my harddrive under Windows Vista?
[01:17] <Ricanelite> Do I need to enter my Windows Vista Install CD?
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> Ricanelite: ask in ##windows, this is an Ubuntu channel :)
[01:18] <Ricanelite> I understand that but I'm trying to put Ubuntu on my Notebook but I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows Vista
[01:19] <Error443> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NlInstallatieHandleiding/DualBoot
[01:19] <[nrx] > how do I find out what version of Xorg is running?
[01:19] <SlimeyPete> Ricanelite: right... but people in ##windows are more likely to be able to help you with the Vista partitioner
[01:19] <Ricanelite> Okay I have a 100gig hard drive
[01:20] <SlimeyPete> I should think one could count on one handte number of people here who run Vista ;)
[01:20] <Ricanelite> Now what will be the best size for Ubuntu Linux?
[01:20] <Ricanelite> So I have enough room to install any Linux Apps and be good with enough space for both Operating Systems
[01:21] <Ricanelite> Cause right now I have 40gig left in my hard drive
[01:21] <SlimeyPete> Ricanelite: at least five gigs, but ten or more would be best (splitting the drive 30-80 might be your best bet)
[01:21] <z9999> It sure would be nice tho have ubuntu subchannels which would reduce the traffic and make problems being discussed more relevant to each others problems.
[01:21] <Ricanelite> Okay
[01:21] <Ricanelite> cool thank you
[01:21] <Crozar> internet is idle! people somebody tell me if the unresponsive programs and slow occurance of u6.10 is responsible for internet idle state
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> why does the build-dep command not work anymore, when i used to compile pidgin, i'd just run apt-get build-dep gaim, it would build all the dependencies, and i could compile it no prob... now when i run that command,  Unable to find a source package for gaim
[01:21] <lucio> testing the gutsy server installer: I cannot create more than 1 raid partition?!?
[01:21] <stefg> Ricanelite: a standard ubuntu install will take approx. 2.5 G of space. So having 5-10 GB as a root partitions is quite reasonable. Think about setting up a separate /boot and /home partition
[01:22] <Crozar> somebody know anything about network internet eth0 and stuff like that
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, I always use flac "timidity foo.mid -OF" there are multiple different ".wav" formats
[01:22] <SlimeyPete> z9999: good idea in theory but newbies might get fed up if they keep being referred between channels
[01:22] <Crozar> dont talk off topic , newbies 1 day be theyr helping ur son
[01:22] <hmhowie> i broke the law using ubuntu today :)
[01:22] <stefg> !irc | z9999
[01:22] <ubotu> z9999: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[01:23] <Jordan_U> hmhowie, Did you play a DVD ?;)
[01:23] <jetsaredim> can someone explain to me why I can have an active network connection on a device that networkmanager knows about, but yet have networkmanager think there's no active device?
[01:24] <Jordan_U> jetsaredim, Where are you getting these "messages" from?
[01:24] <hmhowie> Jordan_U: even worse. a client wanted me to find out why his internet is so slow, so i used a packet sniffer to find out what was going on. it's illegal to do that nowadays in germany
[01:24] <hmhowie> jetsaredim: i think that would be what's referred to as a bug.
[01:24] <jetsaredim> if i click on the network manager icon it brings up the summary window which says No active connection
[01:24] <jetsaredim> err no active device
[01:25] <jetsaredim> hmhowie: you think?
[01:25] <hmhowie> jetsaredim: but i think networkmanager only displays connections its managing itself
[01:26] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, Do you have the source repository in your sources.list?
[01:26] <z9999> SlimeyPete: I realize many wish to help, but have encountered help that has worsened the problem several times and the helper then disappeared. I appreciate the effort, but have no idea when the advice is good or just trying to help.
[01:26] <jetsaredim> hmhowie: i assume its managing the interface since it keeps resetting my openvpn connection that's on it
[01:26] <hmhowie> jetsaredim: which is of course pretty silly of it, but things were in a state of flux with network manager when feisty was launched. i hope things will be better in gutsy :)
[01:26] <stefg> jetsaredim: if you do not need several network profiles (i.e. you alway connect to the same router) i would uninstall network manager altogether. Does more bad than good in such a case
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: thats what i was just looking at, as i got another error on my laptop on my about a source repo... i didn't know there was a source repo.
[01:27] <jetsaredim> stefg: i'
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: i bet thats what it is, let me investigate this for a minute.
[01:27] <jetsaredim> err  I'm actually running kubuntu and knetworkmanager is part of the required package set
[01:28] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | jetsaredim
[01:28] <ubotu> jetsaredim: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: lmao, thats what it is, i've been trying tof igure that out for about an hour.
[01:29] <stefg> jetsaredim: #kubuntu will know about that, speaking of ubuntu (gnome ) there's no problem in uninstalling network-manger. There might be a naming confusion: knetwork manger is different from the nm-applet used for managing multiple network profiles
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> how could i be that freakin dumb
[01:30] <sarthorkhan> macd, i am back with a question, how my linux box now that what is $P1_NET and $IP1 etc. While i have not run any script that define such meterials .. http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html
[01:30] <jetsaredim> stefg: o?
[01:30] <Doomguy0505> Jordan_U: How do I tell when the conversion is over?
[01:31] <zetheroo> anyone know how to work S-Video in Ubuntu with an ATI card?
[01:31] <stefg> jetsaredim: haven't used KDE for years, but i know that KDE had some app named knetwork manager for years, that is different from the lately introduced nm-applet
[01:31] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, It's OK, I never have dumb moments so you having one balances out the universe ;)
[01:31] <jetsaredim> stefg: i c
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> lol, :)
[01:31] <zetheroo> anyone know how to work S-Video in Ubuntu with an ATI card?
[01:32] <th30d0r3> hi, how can i print double sided in ubuntu?
[01:32] <bullgard4> Please recommend an introduction to 'kernel object' and 'kernel object system' in a 2.6 Linux kernel.
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, It should go back to the command prompt
[01:33] <th30d0r3> i have an hp and i control it through hp device manager but there is no opotion for double sided printing...
[01:33] <Doomguy0505> Jordan_U: It just goes forever, unless it's supposed to
[01:33] <zetheroo> anyone know how to work S-Video in Ubuntu with an ATI card?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> bullgard4, That may be a better question for ##linux
[01:34] <stefg> bullgard4: you are quite optimistic..:-) this is #ubuntu !
[01:34] <th30d0r3> any ideas...?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, It's not, how big / long is the midi file?
[01:34] <[nrx] > hmm
[01:35] <stefg> ... and #ubuntu somewhat implies .... "can't be bothered with details or manuals... just make it work for me! " :-)
[01:35] <Doomguy0505> Jordan_U: Nvm, it finished
[01:35] <drez> hi ppl, does mysq come with a client in ubuntu, i dont know where to search in my system
[01:36] <zetheroo> anyone know how to work S-Video in Ubuntu with an ATI card?
[01:36] <ShaiGar> yes
[01:36] <stefg> !info mysql-client | drez
[01:36] <ubotu> drez: mysql-client: mysql database client (meta package depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.38-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[01:36] <hmhowie> drez: yes, it does. just type mysql at the commandline
[01:36] <jaysonsantos> Hello people, my ethernet card is detected like a wireless, anyone know what is that ?
[01:37] <th30d0r3> no ideas for double sided printing... anubody...?
[01:37] <jetsaredim> th30d0r3: does the printer support double-sided?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> jaysonsantos, In what way is it "detected as wireless" ?
[01:38] <stefg> th30d0r3: how about looking yourself in your printer-properties
[01:38] <drez> guys, you are refering to the command line client, i am looking for a visual tool
[01:38] <jaysonsantos> Jordan_U, when i turn on my pc, ubuntu detected my ethernet card like a wlan0
[01:38] <jetsaredim> drez: phpmyadmin, maybe?
[01:38] <stefg> drez: got $$$ to spend?
[01:39] <drez> something like php myadmin yes, so you mean that is not included
[01:39] <jetsaredim> not by default
[01:39] <drez> like mysql monitor on windows
[01:39] <stefg> !info phpmyadmin
[01:39] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3506 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[01:40] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: You might know that at the moment in ##linux there are several trolls around pushing away even regulars.
[01:40] <drez> then i am going to test mysql administrator
[01:41] <gnomefreak> bullgard4: please join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue with that topic
[01:41] <drez> thanks anyway
[01:44] <mary_93> ola
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[01:45] <sipior> school must be out
[01:45] <jetsaredim> stefg: i checked nm-tool and even that is reporting that there's no devices
[01:45] <z9999> Jordan_U: I've removed bcm43xx from being blacklisted, and run iwconfig which returned  "no wireless extensions" for lo, eth0, and sit0.  No idea what to do going forward from this point.
[01:46] <stefg> jetsaredim: what does ifconfig -a tell you?
[01:46] <jetsaredim> stefg: that I'm connected
[01:46] <jetsaredim> (I'm using the machine at the moment)
[01:47] <jetsaredim> stefg: this is a laptop and its got a wired and wireless - of which the wireless is connected
[01:47] <Jordan_U> z9999, It's strange because your card should be supported, maybe ndiswrapper is messing it up, but I hesitate to remove ndiswrapper entirely at this point
[01:48] <jonmills> hello, may I ask someone about supported hardware?  I have a newer Core 2 Duo motherboard.  It uses the Intel ICH8 chipset, which supports RAID 1 in sata ahci mode.  This is supported in Fedora Core 7, but when I boot up Ubuntu 7.04, my disks appear as sda and sdb, so it's not seeing my raid.
[01:49] <jaysonsantos> Jordan_U, where i can check aliases for ethernet cards ? In /etc/network/ i don't have that ethernet configured like wlan0 ?
[01:49] <perner> hello guys, how do i install intel-wifi (for a laptop)drivers?
[01:49] <stefg> jonmills: that's partly intended.... ubuntu prefers using lvm / softraid over hw-fakeraid, but there are tutorials on the forums how to use the driver for that chipset to use the onboard-fakeraid
[01:50] <savetheWorld> !ubotu live
[01:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[01:50] <Jordan_U> jonmills, The LiveCD install does not support RAID
[01:50] <ddalton> Where can I  download the ubuntu live cd from?
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> ddalton: ubuntu.com
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> ddalton: the main install CD is a liveCD
[01:51] <Jordan_U> ddalton, Go to Ubuntu.com and click "Download Now"
[01:51] <jonmills> Thanks much all who responded.  So then should I use the 'alternate' cd?  or 'server'?
[01:51] <z9999> Jordan_U: We were unable to get it to work for over 6 months until we installed ndiswrapper and experimented by downloading drivers from all over the internet. I believe the drivers we finally found to work were obtained from HP.
[01:53] <user_> user
[01:54] <Lord_Drachenblut> it's to bad i can't get the alternate cd shipped to me like i can with the main disk
[01:54] <perner> hello guys, anyone that can, tell me how to  install intel-wifi (for a laptop)drivers?
[01:54] <mihaX14> !wifi  | perner
[01:54] <savetheWorld> !ubotu dapper
[01:55] <ubotu> perner: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:55] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:56] <feimao> !help
[01:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:56] <stefg> jonmills: use the alternate CD. server won't give you a GUI after install, so you would have to set up a desktop from the command line
[01:56] <perner> mihaX14, TY:D
[01:56] <soundray> Lord_Drachenblut: downloading and burning not an option?
[01:56] <z9999> Jordan_U: We used the ubuntu forums and found many suggestions and tried all of them. None were found to work, and several persons assisted over a period of a couple of days and worked us through obtaining a later version of ndiswrapper and trying the various drivers we had downloaded until we found drivers that worked. Now we are unable to run make on ndiswrapper after the kernel update,...
[01:56] <z9999> ...due to missing the build directory not being found for the current kernel version, and the system will no longer boot to the previous kernel version.
[01:56] <jonmills> thanks stefg!
[01:57] <soundray> -1
[01:58] <soundray> sry
[01:58] <z9999> Jordan_U: From the ubuntu forum it appeared that many persons were have difficulty getting the broadcom 4311 wireless card to work.
[01:59] <savetheWorld> does Ubuntu 7.04 have Live CD capability built into the ISO's like 6.06 did?
[01:59] <penguincentral> hi.  i am running 7.10alpha5, and my system is completely updated.  When i go into the terminal, there is no prompt in the window, and the window is smaller than what it normally is.  Can anyone help?
[01:59] <cE_manies> plasa.com
[01:59] <penguincentral> savetheWorld: yes it does
[01:59] <soundray> savetheWorld: yes, all the Desktop ones are live CDs
[01:59] <savetheWorld> penguincentral: thanks!
[01:59] <stefg> !gutsy | penguincentral
[01:59] <ubotu> penguincentral: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <savetheWorld> soundray: thanls also
[01:59] <savetheWorld> *thanks
[01:59] <savetheWorld> :-)
[01:59] <penguincentral> savetheWorld: that's ok
[01:59] <penguincentral> ubotu, thanks
[01:59] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:00] <penguincentral> are you ubotu?
[02:00] <stefg> !botsnack
[02:00] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:01] <china_18_vilches> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:01] <FireHazard17> hola
[02:02] <tasmaniac> anyone here successfully added ubuntu to a win2000 ads and opened ms access tables with OO?
[02:02] <jetsaredim> stefg: any thoughts about my networkmanager issues?
[02:02] <china_18_vilches> komo te yamas
[02:02] <LjL> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <mihaX14> !si
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about si - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <z9999_> lost connection momentarily, will drop off and reconnect.
[02:03] <stefg> jetsaredim: i did not completly understand your problem yet. So you have a box where the wireless worked out of the box, but the wired ethernaet does not?
[02:03] <[user] > hi people
[02:03] <[user] > i am looking for hacker
[02:03] <mihaX14> !mysql
[02:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:03] <[user] > i need to test security of server
[02:04] <stefg> [user] : how about hiring one ?
[02:04] <[user] > i thought it is fun for hacker to crack systems...
[02:04] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac, add ubunto to  "ADS"?  And ADS means what in trhius context?
[02:04] <jetsaredim> stefg: I have a box where both wired and wireless work, but i'm connected via wireless
[02:04] <[user] > stefg - how much you want
[02:05] <stefg> [user] : this is not the right place to ask for this
[02:05] <jetsaredim> stefg: I have openvpn setup, but network manager keeps resetting my connection
[02:05] <jetsaredim> so I figured I should use the openvpn-networkmanager plugin
[02:05] <[user] > for me it's ok. i am from fbi.
[02:05] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld,  active directory service from memory
[02:05] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac:
[02:05] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: OK,
[02:05] <jetsaredim> but I can't get it working since network manager thinks I have no active devices
[02:05] <stefg> jetsaredim: try disabling ipv6 first. some routers don't like it
[02:05] <tasmaniac> sorry was a sleep :)
[02:05] <Jordan_U> [user] , And I'm the Pope
[02:05] <stefg> !ipv6 | jetsaredim
[02:05] <ubotu> jetsaredim: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:05] <Juhaz> [user] , go pester someplace with more gullible people
[02:05] <jetsaredim> stefg: routers?
[02:06] <z9999_> Well, that didn't seem to clear my ID
[02:06] <DWZ> Does anyone know a way to stop gparted from mounting a partition when it's run from the Ubuntu Live CD? Or at least, stop it from re-mounting it once I dismount the partition? (although, it could be Ubuntu doing this rather then gparted)
[02:06] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: since ADS is just MS corrupted version of LDAP (a actual standardised service), the directory how can you add an OS to it?
[02:06] <jetsaredim> I'm connected just fine to my router, but its just that network manager thinks I'm not
[02:06] <[user] > ok. this is the target <IP_ADDRESS> You can do whatever you want to do.
[02:06] <[user] > for free.
[02:06] <stefg> !offtopic | [user]
[02:06] <ubotu> [user] : #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <[user] > i'll not charge you anything.
[02:07] <Juhaz> such as reporting you to abuse. gotcha
[02:07] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: did you mean somehow to make an UBUNTU LDAP server work/interoperate somehow with MS based LDAP queries?
[02:07] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld, I can get it onto the win2000 domain open various files but cant open access databases or run .jar files from the server
[02:08] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: "it onto the win2000 domain"  <- what does that mean please? its in a workgroup?
[02:08] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: please use terms as specific as you can, otherwise the meaning is vague for me.
[02:09] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: not trying to be difficult, I just dont work w/MS much
[02:09] <stefg> !ldap
[02:09] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[02:10] <tasmaniac> savetheworld  its a company network. I'm trying to convince them to put some linux computers in
[02:10] <frojnd> !!! I have a problem
[02:11] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld,  The win2000 is the main server (ie like samba pdc)
[02:11] <Eko_Hermiyanto> yes emacs
[02:11] <Eko_Hermiyanto> emacs in ubuntu :D
[02:11] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: AFAIK Linux based LDAP servers do a fine job of proving authorization services to any ldap client, on any OS and many people are already using Linux to provide LDAP services to Microsoft based environments.
[02:11] <frojnd> Today I've started computer and X was loading way tooooo long as usuals. Also every program that I start needs more secs to load itself... What could it be wrong? No I haven't update any kenel...
[02:11] <hmhowie> stefg is very philanthropic like that
[02:12] <savetheWorld> frojnd: check how much RAM and swap you are using.
[02:12] <stefg> frojnd: did you tinker with your hostname ?
[02:12] <z9999_> Still needing help getting the wireless to work.
[02:12] <frojnd> savetheWorld: Swap:  1052248k total,    34996k used,  1017252k free,   171928k cached
[02:12] <frojnd> savetheWorld: and 60% of ram I have total ram 512
[02:13] <stefg> frojnd: ati-graphics ?
[02:13] <hmhowie> frojnd: looks okay. what's your load like? (at a shell prompt: uptime)
[02:13] <frojnd> stefg: no nvidia
[02:13] <savetheWorld> frojnd: hmm, looks like its not a RAM issue.
[02:13] <garfield>  how can i play flsh video outside of firefox in a player?
[02:13] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld,  yes but my prob is (besides working with ms os) The server at this point in time has to remain a M$ one. I'm trying to get some ubuntu desktops to utilise the server as easily as the XP desktops utilise it
[02:13] <frojnd> < stefg> frojnd: did you tinker with your hostname ?
[02:14] <hmhowie> garfield: vlc can play flashvideo
[02:14] <frojnd> stefg: what o u mean exactly
[02:14] <bullgard4> Does GoogleTalk use the Jabber protocol?
[02:14] <stefg> frojnd: did you change the name of the box ?
[02:14] <frojnd> stefg: NOP!
[02:14] <garfield> hmhowie: how do i do it then?
[02:14] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: so you want Ubuntu LDAP clients to use the MS LDAP server.  I've not heard of that But I'll bet some has.
[02:14] <savetheWorld> *someone
[02:15] <hmhowie> garfield: you download the embedded video you want to download from a website using an extension for firefox, then you click on it and select open with: vlc
[02:15] <stefg> frojnd: what does the system monitor show ? any app which is chewing on your CPU?
[02:15] <MattJ> bullgard4: Yes
[02:15] <alesan> hi I moved my hdd in a different PC; before I had ati and now nvidia. the nvidia module does not load "Fatal: error running install command for nvidia"
[02:15] <alesan> any idea what should I do?
[02:15] <bullgard4> MattJ: Thank you.
[02:16] <MattJ> bullgard4: http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
[02:16] <garfield> hmhowie: T_T i know that way allready but i dont want to download the video.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> alesan, Switch to the VESA driver to get X working, or install the nvidia drivers from the terminal
[02:16] <alesan> Jordan_U: the drivers are installed
[02:17] <stefg> !nvidia |  alesan
[02:17] <ubotu> alesan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:17] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld,  yep heap have. I've worked me way thru about 50 forum/wiki/howto/etc pages in the last month or so. (plus a lot of sambas docs) but none have managed to fix my problem.
[02:17] <edn2> i'm doing an apt-get dist-upgrade from feisty to gutsy and i'm receiving an error (--fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2) on the deb corresponding to the new kernel - any ideas on how to get the upgrade to resume?
[02:17] <hmhowie> alesan: a couple of ideas: 1/ have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the ati driver is still being specified 2/ see if the ati driver is specified in /etc/modprobe.conf somewhere
[02:17] <alesan> I get that message when I issue a modprobe nvidia
[02:17] <Jordan_U> alesan, How did you install them?
[02:17] <alesan> I did the manual install and xorg.conf is fine
[02:17] <frojnd> am stefg: I have this addon on my pannel that shows CPU use and cpu is jumping constantly from 0 to 5-7% so it slike this: |.|.|.|.|
[02:17] <alesan> Jordan_U: mh I installes nvidia-glx
[02:17] <hmhowie> garfield: a-ha, you want firefox to open an embedded vlc window to play back flashvideo. there may be an extension for that
[02:17] <ShaiGar> where can i search to see if ubuntu has drivers for specific hardware?
[02:17] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: oh, all this is leading up to an actual problem you have and not some vague notion of being re-assured thats it can be done?
[02:18] <stefg> !hardware | ShaiGar
[02:18] <ubotu> ShaiGar: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:18] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld, I have no problem with ubuntu authenticating off the win2k server
[02:18] <frojnd> stefg: in System monitor is only system monitor app who use CPU...
[02:18] <ShaiGar> thank you
[02:18] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld, yep I said what me prob was I thought :)
[02:18] <savetheWorld> tasmaniac: you seem to be contradicting yourself. %what: "What are you really trying to do?"
[02:18] <alesan> Jordan_U: what is the package I have to install in order to have the nvidia module?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> garfield, I don't think that is possible since flash is proprietary and the only way to get the URL for the actual .flv file is by interpreting the flash file
[02:19] <stefg> frojnd: so is this reproducible? Have you booted again to see if the problem persists?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> alesan, nvidia-glx is correct
[02:19] <alesan> Jordan_U: anyway, on my system there is no file called nvidia.ko
[02:19] <alesan> I just checked
[02:19] <frojnd> stefg: I did but wwith alt + sysreq reisub
[02:19] <MattJ> frojnd: In the System Monitor, click View->Active Processes
[02:19] <Eko_Hermiyanto> life long perl
[02:19] <frojnd> stefg: no good either
[02:20] <Jordan_U> alesan, try running "sudo apt-get remove --reinstall --purge nvidia-glx"
[02:20] <garfield> Jordan_U: thats what i want a flv file
[02:20] <jan_> anyone knows why there are some menu items hidden in ubuntu for my ldap users ?
[02:20] <frojnd> stefg: Oh and when it started (X) this nautilus icon was showing waaay tooo long it disapeared after I cliked on it
[02:20] <tasmaniac> savetheWorld, ok Ubuntu desktop ---> win2k server. Domain login ok. Open files off the server ok. Run a .jar (java) file off the server - not ok.  Open a MS access database off the server via OpenOffice - no ok . Open said files off the ubuntu desktop no problems
[02:21] <Jordan_U> garfield, Only way that I know of to get that is to grab it from /tmp while it loads in the flash player
[02:21] <stefg> frojnd: so waht was the last thing you changed on your machine ?
[02:21] <frojnd> stefg: lemme check history
[02:21] <frojnd> stefg: oh, How do I check history (never done it before, shame)
[02:22] <DWZ> Does anyone know a way to stop gparted from mounting a partition when it's run from the Ubuntu Live CD? Or at least, stop it from re-mounting it once I dismount the partition? (although, it could be Ubuntu doing this rather then gparted)
[02:22] <garfield> Jordan_U: how do i do that?
[02:22] <ShaiGar> damnit, no tests done on the ASUS Striker Extreme Mainboarde
[02:22] <john> #semarang
[02:22] <stefg> frojnd: have you tinkered with anything? tried to rconfigure something or installed something?
[02:22] <frojnd> stefg: I tweak ubuntu but when I installed it (2 months ago) and everything untill now worked just fast
[02:23] <hmhowie> DWZ: you could try stopping the haldaemon
[02:23] <frojnd> stefg: with tutorial: fly like a butterfly ubuntu performance
[02:23] <Jordan_U> garfield, Just look in /tmp ( in the file browser it is FileSystem/tmp ) and the file should be there, for most sites it won't actually have the .flv extension but you will be able to see the preview icon
[02:24] <alesan> I always get this message: "Fatal: error running install command for nvidia"
[02:24] <alesan> which log should I check to have some more info?
[02:24] <alesan> dmesg says nothing
[02:24] <alesan> not even /var/log/messages
[02:24] <DWZ> hmhowie, sadly, I am somewhat stupid :( How can I do that, is there a simple command I can run from the terminal?
[02:24] <stefg> frojnd: you might have overtweaked. i would run a fsck and a memtest first, but without further info there's no way to diagnose the problem over IRC
[02:25] <ffighter> Does it take any special configuration  on xorg.conf for LCD monitors - or the set up is identical to CRT's ones ?
[02:26] <frojnd> stefg: I haven't touched ram, I only set swappines to 10 what is raleted with disks...
[02:26] <stefg> frojnd: you might have overtweaked. i would run a fsck and a memtest first, but without further info there's no way to diagnose the problem over IRC
[02:26] <frojnd> stefg: so I don't think that disks or ram is damaged.. nor cpu
[02:27] <frojnd> stefg: can be fsck run when I'm on computer?
[02:28] <stefg> frojnd: no. you can force a fsck at next reboot  by 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[02:28] <Slart> ffighter: it's the same..
[02:29] <ffighter> Slart: great, thanks... I ask this becouse I saw the following line: Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: 1280x1024_60 +1280+0, CRT-1: 1280x1024_75 +0+0" on the screen conf for the LCD monitor
[02:29] <ffighter> Slart: Note the CRT there
[02:29] <frojnd> stefg: of So I'll try this and mem test
[02:29] <ffighter> Slart, I thought it would need to be replaced by LCD or something
[02:29] <Slart> ffighter: hmm.. haven't noticed that before.. I guess it might be an old relic from the times when crt = monitor
[02:29] <MattJ> stefg: Nice tip, I didn't know that :)
[02:30] <DWZ> hmhowie, ah, don't worry if you're afk or something - just found the command in Google.  Cheers, thanks for the help
[02:30] <ffighter> Slart, yeah
[02:30] <ffighter> Slart, thanks
[02:31] <Slart> you're welcome, ffighter
[02:32] <hmhowie> sorry DWZ. i was just busy in another chatroom :(
[02:32] <z9999_> I'm totally stumped trying to restore the wireless. It appears that I'm stuck with the 2.6.15-29-386 kernel, and unable to run make on ndiswrapper due to missing kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.15-29-386/build. There is no build directory there. I am unable to access any additional updates directly from the PC running  ubuntu and uncertain of what, where, or how to retrieve what...
[02:32] <z9999_> ...additional might be necessary to proceed. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[02:33] <P5YCH0> hello
[02:33] <P5YCH0> i have a serious question
[02:33] <P5YCH0>  would the better business burea enact on a potnetinal lawsuit if its profitable for them?
[02:33] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:34] <tonytraductor> greetings
[02:34] <penguincentral> P5YCH0: i'm no lawyer, but money, money, money, money! money!
[02:35] <Jordan_U> z9999_, run sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper, look at what packages it wants to install and grab them from packges.ubuntu.com and put them on a CD
[02:35] <P5YCH0> pengiun
[02:35] <P5YCH0> i got insulted by a company
[02:35] <P5YCH0> they called me a RETARD in capital letters
[02:35] <LjL> !offtopic |  P5YCH0
[02:35] <ubotu> P5YCH0: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:35] <P5YCH0> and dont want to fullfill a warranty
[02:36] <P5YCH0> surely thats a lawsuit
[02:37] <tonytraductor> they called you RETARD?  Was this in a formal, written correspondence, a copy of which is currently in your possession?
[02:38] <tonytraductor> Personally, I dont know if you can sue, unless you work for them, in which case, of course, you may have a case
[02:38] <LjL> tonytraductor: he's not in this channel anymore. please keep on topic
[02:38] <tonytraductor> I don
[02:38] <tonytraductor> I dont know if the BBB would take an interest, though.
[02:38] <tonytraductor> You need to speak with a lawyer
[02:38] <Le^stat> i'm looking for a program to back up evolution mail
[02:38] <tonytraductor> Now...Im having trouble with an install.
[02:39] <tonytraductor> Im trying to install 7.04 on an older machine, PIII, 1ghz, 512mb ram, 120gb hdd.
[02:39] <stefg> !sbackup | Le^stat
[02:39] <ubotu> Le^stat: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[02:39] <Le^stat> ta
[02:39] <tonytraductor> When I get to the end of all the choosing names and stuff, and it starts to install, it tells me it cant partition the hdd and quits.
[02:39] <z9999_> Jordan_U: that returns error messages also,
[02:39] <z9999_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock -  open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:39] <z9999_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:39] <stefg> close synaptic
[02:40] <stefg> aaarggghhh
[02:40] <tonytraductor> the hdd previously had Dapper and XP Media on it, and its already wiped clean
[02:40] <Jordan_U> z9999_, as stefg says, close synaptic or any other package manager
[02:41] <stefg> tonytraductor: so are there any partitions on that drive ?
[02:41] <DigeratiX> if I install apps from src, how do I uninstall them if they act bad ?
[02:41] <DigeratiX> im soo used to apt
[02:41] <stefg> !checkinstall
[02:41] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:41] <panosru> i just downloaded Eclipse europa but every time i try to open it i get an error :(
[02:41] <tonytraductor> there were, but I wiped it.  I told the install to make a / partition (ext3) and a swap, thats it
[02:42] <DigeratiX> thx
[02:42] <tonytraductor> actually, it looks like we may be progressing here...I tried several times with no luck, and then removed the disc and rebooted...something seems different now
[02:42] <z9999_> Jordan_U & stefg: OK, did that and this time got
[02:42] <z9999_> E: Unable to find a source package for ndiswrapper
[02:42] <tonytraductor> looks like it got past that point.
[02:42] <barbie> co_smp
[02:42] <tonytraductor> heh...all worked up over nothing...I wonder what I did wrong the first 10 times?
[02:42] <Davo_Dinkum> i just put a PCI video card in and it only gives the screen a black signal
[02:42] <Davo_Dinkum> xorg didnt load
[02:43] <Davo_Dinkum> any ideas?
[02:43] <tonytraductor> I always wait about 5 to 6 months before installing a new version
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> Davo_Dinkum: do you have onboard graphics? If so, disable it in the BIOS
[02:43] <Jordan_U> z9999_, You need to enable the source repos, which you can't do without an Internet connection
[02:43] <stefg> tonytraductor: there might still be a broken partition table on that disk...  you could use gparted to 'set a new volume label' in MSDOS format. that will initialize the partition table
[02:43] <Davo_Dinkum> SlimeyPete: I think it's on autodetect
[02:43] <tonytraductor> of course, this will be my 2nd version of Ubuntu, or first upgrade, since I just switched over from Fedora last fall...
[02:44] <stefg> tonytraductor: to be clear: this will erase everything on that disk
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> Davo_Dinkum: never trust autodetect ;)
[02:44] <tonytraductor> now, on that particular machine, Im just wiping the disk and installing from scracth (its a back-up, experiment machine, my daughter plays on).
[02:44] <Davo_Dinkum> it's autodetect or onboard. those are my options. heh
[02:44] <tonytraductor> but this one Im on is my main machine, with my entire business on it...do I understand that I cant do an upgrade from Dapper to 7.04 without first going to Edgy?
[02:45] <glock> instal ubuntu 6.06 is more easy to use :)
[02:45] <glock> and after u learn 6.06 instal 7.07 7.10
[02:45] <axisys> is this the right chnl to discuss wifi ? i am trying to find out how to connect to LEAP ?
[02:45] <glock> and others ;))
[02:45] <tonytraductor> well, I erased that disk with gparted on my first attempts and reset the partiton table.
[02:45] <Pici> glock: 7.10 is not released yet.
[02:45] <axisys> i do not see LEAP in the wpa2 enterprise eap pull down menu
[02:46] <glock> is is i haveit on dvd ;))
[02:46] <z9999_> glock: Not if you need a wireless connection.
[02:46] <glock> i have ubunt 7.10 ;)
[02:46] <glock> on dvd :D
[02:46] <tonytraductor> Oh yeah...I AM using 6.06 on my main machine still, and love it...but, I know, eventually Im going to have to upgrade...
[02:46] <Jordan_U> glock, That does not mean that it is finished
[02:46] <stefg> tonytraductor: right.... and even going through two upgrades isn't advisable. backup /home (if it's not separate already) and see !cloning how to restore your package selection after fresh install
[02:46] <glock> know theat :)
[02:47] <glock> hey can someone tel me how i make steam work on ubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> tonsofpcs, You will be able to upgrade directly to Gutsy+1
[02:47] <tonytraductor> i suppose its a bad habit, but I dont even have /home on a separate partition...perhaps I should move it first, eh?
[02:47] <glock> i have instaled wine
[02:47] <dooglus> I just tried saving a 60k text file from a text editor and it took over 10 seconds to do so.  I'm using ext3.  Is there something I can do to speed it up, like defrag or something?
[02:47] <glock> but when i open i can sea where i write ma user and pass
[02:48] <Jordan_U> tonsofpcs, No intermediate upgrades required between LTS releases
[02:48] <stefg> tonytraductor: be safe... have a complete backup now, before you start to do anything
[02:48] <glock> some when can tell me how i instal activeX on mozila ?
[02:49] <glock> jordan from where i get activeX for mozila ?
[02:49] <Pici> glock: You can't ActiveX is windows only.  You might be able to use IE in wine though.
[02:49] <LjL> glock: ...eh? i don't think you can
[02:49] <stefg> tonytraductor: and having /boot at the beginning of the drive and /home separate is good practice for ubuntu
[02:49] <LjL> i don't think you can 1) install activex on anything that's not windows 2) use it on gecko browsers
[02:49] <LjL> so all in all i think you've very much out of luck
[02:49] <glock> first instal gecko browser ;))
[02:50] <z9999_> Jordan_U: I assume this system is now useful only as a doorstop?
[02:50] <glock> because i don't have instaled ;))
[02:50] <stefg> dooglus: try reiserfs....
[02:51] <Jordan_U> z9999_, No, you just need to apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper on another machine and grab the packages from packages.ubuntu.com, it's just that you will probably download some that you already have and don't need
[02:51] <icon9> Is there a way to setup nautilus to be able to to use the backspace key to go back to the previous directory? (or should I be asking in Gnome?)
[02:51] <stefg> !hotkeys
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkeys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <stefg> !hotkey
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotkey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <stefg> !keys
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <Pici> !msgthebot
[02:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:52] <LadyNikon> so..
[02:53] <stefg> !shortcuts
[02:53] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:53] <LjL> stefg: problem is, you're looking for keyboard *shortcuts*, not hotkeys
[02:53] <stefg> ^ :-) ^
[02:53] <LadyNikon> I got an error.:tasksel: aptitude failed (100) when I try to do :sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[02:54] <rick__> hi, i am using a acer 6292 laptop and i have compiled the alsa drivers according to the instructions but, still not getting any sound output
[02:55] <rick__> i have also added the options line to the alsa-base file
[02:56] <jpastore> hey, how do I confirm that network manager is handling my wifi, because right now when I run nm-tool it doesn't show my wifi connection and I'm on it. I'm trying to vpn into my office and it can't find an active device so I figure I need to nm handle and see my wifi in order for the vpn to work
[02:57] <rick__> any ideas how shall i fix my sound issue ?
[02:58] <axisys> I am looking for a howto to connect to leap
[02:58] <USMarine> rick__ i have an acer
[02:59] <USMarine> and i didn't compile anything and my sounds works perfectly
[02:59] <rick__> USMarine,  cool :) u got it to work
[02:59] <rick__> USMarine,  hrmmm
[02:59] <rick__> USMarine, mine did not work from the start..
[02:59] <USMarine> though my lap version aint the same as yours
[02:59] <doug_> why is it whn i launch ktorrent i get cannot talk to ktorrent?
[03:00] <rick__> USMarine,  oh.. prob.. might be it
[03:00] <USMarine> rick__ no faders are down i suppose
[03:01] <doug_> why do i get this message when i launch ktorrent cannot talk to klauncher?
[03:01] <rick__> USMarine,  all the important stuff are working..except my audio
[03:01] <jpastore> does anyone have any ideas about my wifi issue?
[03:02] <USMarine> knetworkmanager
[03:02] <LadyNikon> jpastore: what was iwconfig say?
[03:02] <USMarine> used that?
[03:02] <lonran> hi everybody
[03:02] <doug_> why when i launch ktorrent i get cannot launch klauncher for and how do i fix this?
[03:03] <z9999_> Jordan_U: I found an ndiswrapper-source and -utils on packages.ubuntu.com, and assume I need to download both of them.
[03:03] <lonran> is there any command to install a .deb and resolve dependeces at the same time?
[03:03] <LadyNikon> lonran: apt get?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> z9999_, No, you don
[03:03] <USMarine> lol
[03:03] <Jordan_U> z9999_, No, you don't need the source because presumable you have that already
[03:03] <ironfroggy> what does this mean?
[03:03] <ironfroggy> ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? /data/multimedia/audio/zztop - bad to the bone.mp3
[03:03] <ironfroggy> the file name is red
[03:04] <lonran> LadyNikon, but if the latest version of the program is not on the repositories and i already have the .deb?
[03:04] <doug_>  why when i launch ktorrent i get cannot launch klauncher for and how do i fix this?
[03:04] <Pici> ironfroggy: Red or purplish?
[03:04] <LadyNikon> lonran: oh
[03:04] <LadyNikon> lonran: i dunno about that
[03:05] <LadyNikon> i have never actually installed a .deb
[03:05] <ironfroggy> red
[03:05] <doug_>  why when i launch ktorrent i get cannot launch klauncher for and how do i fix this?
[03:05] <Lord_Drachenblut> lonran: you should be able to right click the file and there is an install option i think in that menu
[03:06] <lonran> Lord_Drachenblut, it is, but there are not resolved depedences
[03:06] <doug_>  why when i launch ktorrent i get cannot launch klauncher for and how do i fix this?
[03:06] <dooglus> stefg: you're joking, right?  I used to use reiserfs, but was told that it's dangerous, because the recovery tool is pretty bad
[03:06] <dooglus> I just tried saving a 60k text file from a text editor and it took over 10 seconds to do so.  I'm using ext3.  Is there something I can do to speed it up, like defrag or something?
[03:06] <z9999_> Jordan_U: Just the utilities? And both of them end with .deb which I don't know what to do with.
[03:07] <Vad1> Can anyone help me out with a libc6 issue? I can't install several apps because of it, but Synaptic says it's fine.
[03:07] <attackdecay> this isn't directly related, but i've just finished getting gscan2pdf working, and was wondering if anyone knows of a service for free internet or email faxing
[03:07] <Jordan_U> z9999_, Just double click them, you just need to be sure that you get all of the packages that "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper" would install
[03:07] <LadyNikon> Vad1: what lib issue?
[03:08] <LadyNikon> i may not be able to help.. but someone else might
[03:08] <stefg> dooglus: So now you are told that reiserfs is superiour to ext3 and that you won't need a recovery tool (except the usual good backup regime) ....
[03:08] <doug_> is anyone going to please answer me and help me on how to fix this?
[03:08] <Madnez> guys
[03:08] <attackdecay> i thought grandcentral would, but i now dont think it does
[03:08] <Madnez> anyone knows how to type spaces?
[03:08] <Vad1> I don't know, it says 'dependency not satisfyable: libc6'
[03:08] <Lord_Drachenblut> lonran: did it try to install and said crap about dependencies
[03:08] <Madnez> i have a folder with {space}(x)
[03:08] <Myrtti> Madnez: escape them with a \
[03:09] <icon9> Anyone know how I can get my workspace to be able to jump from 3 to 1 if I have 3 workspaces? Right now I have to use both ctrl+alt+right and ctrl+alt+left, but it would be nice if I only had to use one and could wrap around.
[03:09] <Lord_Drachenblut> lonran: the next thing to try is in a command line is sudo apt-get -f install
[03:09] <Madnez> so its like xxx\(x)?
[03:09] <penguincentral> Madnez: in the terminal?
[03:09] <Madnez> lolz
[03:09] <Madnez> yeah
[03:09] <Madnez> trying to setup samba network files
[03:09] <Madnez> other drives have brackets and spaces
[03:10] <lonran> Lord_Drachenblut, what for?
[03:10] <Myrtti> sentence\ with\ spaces
[03:10] <Madnez> icon, theres an option at your bottom right
[03:10] <fermat> Hello all, I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 and after today's update I cannot use gnome-terminal anymore - the characters are not displayed, I can enter text and start apps, but cant see the terminal output. has anybody similar problems?
[03:10] <Madnez> its a orange like box type
[03:10] <Madnez> just click on it
[03:10] <icon9> Madnez, right, I mean with keyboard shortcuts.
[03:10] <Madnez> lolz, just go to sys and keyboard setups
[03:10] <Madnez> and redesign your own :D
[03:10] <stefg> !gutsy | fermat
[03:11] <ubotu> fermat: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:11] <Vad1> What do I need to do to satisfy the dependency with libc6?
[03:11] <icon9> Madnez, that only allow Workspace Right and Workspace left, not Previous Workspace and Next Workspace.
[03:11] <fermat> ubotu, thank you, I'll visit #ubuntu+1
[03:11] <z9999_> Jordan_U: I assume you mean all the files shown as dependencies need to be retrieved as well? Also Looking at the synaptic pkg mgr, it says the kernel source is needed or may be needed to compile the module. I assume that might be where the missing kernel related build files come from? And if so does that have to be retrieved somewhere also? I haven't found that yet.
[03:11] <Madnez> hmmm, never bothered with prev and next
[03:11] <Madnez> right left worked well for me :D
[03:11] <Lord_Drachenblut> lonran: i have tried to install packages with the right click option it will end with unresolved dependencies and the apt-get -f install will resolve dependencies sometimes
[03:11] <LadyNikon> fermat: thank stefg
[03:12] <Madnez> still if you want better shortcuts, redesign your own shortcut ;)
[03:12] <icon9> Madnez, right... Well, I'll get right on that. -g-
[03:12] <Madnez> ;)
[03:13] <Vad1> Anyone have any idea?
[03:13] <Leon_home> hello, i need to install on my Ubuntu "Sun grid engine" , on the installation manual they ask me to "login as root" : what does it mean ?
[03:13] <booster_614> hey guys im having some problems with firefox....its been freezing up on me...like when im on youtube....any ideas on how to fix it ??
[03:13] <atlfalcons866> how do i defrag
[03:13] <gir_> which version of firefox
[03:13] <Madnez> zzzz, how do i enter brackets in terminal?
[03:13] <kbrosnan> booster_614: which adobe flash plugin?
[03:13] <stefg> atlfalcons866: linux is not windows
[03:13] <gir_> I've had flash problems with youtube and veoh before
[03:13] <Madnez> i'm having it register the brackets as a command
[03:13] <Lord_Drachenblut> atlfalcons866: ? defrag in linux.... yea no real need to do that
[03:13] <booster_614> how do i see what adobe flash i have ??
[03:13] <atlfalcons866> does that go for jfs
[03:14] <Madnez> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:14] <gir_> in a terminal type :  flash-plugin-ver?
[03:14] <Madnez> there
[03:14] <Madnez> follow that
[03:14] <booster_614> ok
[03:14] <booster_614> thanks guys
[03:14] <Leon_home> how can i login as root on ubuntu system?
[03:14] <Madnez> so, how do i enter brackets?
[03:14] <fermat> thank you stefg ;-)
[03:14] <kbrosnan> booster_614: type about:plugins in the address bar
[03:14] <DigeratiX> Leon_home
[03:14] <gir_> ROOT:  you need to set the root password
[03:14] <DigeratiX> is sudo not enough?
[03:14] <gir_> sudo passwd
[03:14] <Madnez> you need to modify your sys setup
[03:15] <Madnez> but usually sudo would do if you are the main user
[03:15] <Pici> Leon_home: You dont.
[03:15] <gir_> su
[03:15] <DigeratiX> sudo su
[03:15] <Pici> gir_: Dont suggest that please.
[03:15] <gir_> is the norm for a root only terminal
[03:15] <Jordan_U> z9999_, You need what would be installed by "sudo apt-get build-dep ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils" Nothing more or less
[03:15] <gir_> but sudo works too
[03:15] <Pici> Leon_home: Use sudo -i if you want an interactive sudo/root session
[03:15] <Madnez> yeah but try not do sudo too much... :)
[03:16] <gir_> limit the use of any root action
[03:16] <Madnez> unless you know or dare to try :)
[03:16] <Pici> !sudo
[03:16] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <Jordan_U> z9999_, Run that command on the machine without internet and look at what it tries to install, then grab those packages from a machine that can connect to the internet
[03:16] <gir_> its a very powerful thing and can result very badly if you aren't careful
[03:16] <Madnez> still guys, how can i enter () in terminal?
[03:16] <Lord_Drachenblut> how can i test a deb package before i try to install it to see if dependinces can be resolved?
[03:16] <Madnez> there must be some set of keys for it...
[03:16] <Madnez> &(?
[03:17] <Geeunkown> Can someone help me with how do I wirte to windows it is ntfs format from ubuntu. I have ntfs-3g updated and still I can't wirte to the mounted drive. it telling me I do not have permissions to write to the drive can any one please help.
[03:17] <Pici> Madnez: Are you trying to get to a directory that has parethesis in them?
[03:17] <Madnez> i've forgotten my C++ lines but as i said, there must be some way...
[03:17] <Madnez> yeah
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Madkiss, What do you mean?
[03:17] <Pici> Madnez: Try escaping them with slashes: \(
[03:17] <Madnez> i have a folder like xxx (c)  = c drive
[03:17] <z9999_> Jordan_U: This doesn't look to cut and dry as each thing I appear to need appears to depend on several other things, which in turn depend on several other things adinfinitum.
[03:17] <gir_> Symgis - ntfs-3g
[03:17] <Leon_home> DigeratiX: i am trying to install software named "Sun grid engine" and in the software installation manual they ask me to login as root : are they meaning for me to use the sudo command ? or log as other user named "root" ?
[03:17] <gir_> you need to install that package and reboot
[03:17] <booster_614> ok after i typed about:plugins it shows that all the plugins are enabled
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Madkiss, like "echo \(\)" ?
[03:18] <Madnez> lol
[03:18] <dthacker> Hi, I'm trying to help someone with this question.  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13610.  Based on his sources list, it looks like he has the proper repositories.  Why is he getting the unable to resolve error message?
[03:18] <DigeratiX> yeah just sudo before your commands
[03:18] <Madnez> ok gonna try
[03:18] <Madnez> brgb
[03:18] <Madnez> brb
[03:18] <Leon_home> DigeratiX: 10x for your help
[03:18] <panosru> Do i need any firewall or any antivirus for my ubuntu system?
[03:18] <Pici> Leon_home: you should be able to get an interactive sudo session with `sudo -i` just do that instead of logging in as root.  (its the same thing)
[03:18] <ElPenguin> hi guys, is the x86_64 version sufficiently multilib friendly that it can support 32 bit apps?
[03:18] <dthacker> !virus
[03:18] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:18] <Madnez> h: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[03:18] <Madnez> sigh
[03:18] <penguincentral> panosru: antivirus i wouldn't imagine, firewall depends
[03:19] <penguincentral> do you have a router?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> z9999_, But you have all of the things that they depend on already installed, the command I gave will try to install everything that you need but do not already have, if you install those packages you will have everything you need, dependencies and all
[03:19] <Madnez>  xxx
[03:19] <stefg> Geeunkown: you need to be a memeber of the 'fuse' and 'plugdev' group. Add youself to it and logout /login after you did that
[03:19] <panosru> yes i have
[03:19] <Madnez> xx\(\C) doesnt work
[03:19] <panosru> but i have firewall on it
[03:19] <gir_> I'm quit
[03:19] <panosru> with windows without firewall and antivirus you couldn't live a lot :P that's why i'm asking :P
[03:19] <Madnez> any other ideas how to enter brackets?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> Madnez, What is the exact command you are typing?
[03:20] <Jordan_U> !firewall | panosru
[03:20] <ubotu> panosru: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:20] <Madnez>  //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[03:20] <Jordan_U> !virus | panosru
[03:20] <ubotu> panosru: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:20] <Madnez> yeah thats bout it
[03:20] <panosru> thanks Jordan_U :D
[03:21] <Madnez> linking other com drives to my side = bitch prob with keys
[03:21] <Pici> Madnez: I dont see any brackets in that
[03:21] <SlimeyPete> dthacker: "deb http://%%LOCAL%%archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main"  looks a bit dodgy O.o
[03:21] <Jordan_U> panosru, By default nothing is blocked by the firewall in Ubuntu because by default there are no services listening on any ports ( except ICMP so it can respond to a ping )
[03:21] <Madnez> lolz thats the command line
[03:21] <z9999_> Jordan_U: After I DL the items I think I need, where do I place them on the system running ubuntu, preferably where I could use the synaptic pkg mgr to do the installation and allow it to inform me of missing dependencies that might also need to be DL'd.
[03:21] <Madnez> its like //xxxx/xxx (C)
[03:21] <SlimeyPete> I wonder what's being substituted in for %%LOCAL%%...
[03:21] <dthacker> SlimeyPete: I thought those were referring to CD/DVD?  Not the case?
[03:21] <Geeunkown> Why do someone have to goto so many stages just to get one simple questions answered for something Linux should have fixed by now.
[03:22] <ironfroggy> how do i recursively make all directories readable by group and others?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> z9999_, Just select them all and double click them
[03:22] <ironfroggy> that is +x yes but i dont want to +x the files
[03:22] <Madnez> //xxx/xxx (C) /media/mountname  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[03:22] <Madnez> there
[03:22] <TwigEther> ironfroggy: chown, with the recursive switch. (-R iirc)
[03:22] <SlimeyPete> dthacker: could be I guess, but doesn't look likely
[03:22] <fm> hi
[03:22] <ironfroggy> you mean chmod?
[03:22] <Jordan_U> z9999_, You can also put them in a directory and run "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/directory/*.deb"
[03:22] <panosru> and an other thing i need to know. I installed linux on an old quantom firewall 12GB now i'm running out of space but i loved ubuntu so much that i don't need windows any more all i wan't i can find it on linux (exept flash :( ) but i want to move my current ubuntu system to my second hard drive, is that possible?
[03:22] <Pici> Madnez: try //xxx/xxx\ \(C\)
[03:23] <Madnez> lolz thats a lot of slashes
[03:23] <TwigEther> maybe, depends if you are wibbling permissions or ownership \o/
[03:23] <dthacker> SlimeyPete: I'll have him comment those out and try again.  tnx SP
[03:23] <ironfroggy> but as i said, i only want to change the mode on directories. thats what i cant figure.
[03:23] <Hadeshorn> hi fellow ubuntians
[03:23] <Lord_Drachenblut> yo Hadeshorn
[03:23] <SlimeyPete> dthacker: np, and good luck :)
[03:23] <Pici> Madnez: If that doesnt work, try just escaping the space, I didnt think that brackets needed to be escaped.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Madnez, You could also just use quotes or tab completion
[03:23] <fm> I need a login and a password to connect to the internet, I fill them in when I start firefox for exemple, but tools such as apt-get won't work ... do you know how to fix this please?
[03:23] <ironfroggy> TwigEther: permissions.
[03:23] <Madnez> hmm
[03:24] <Madnez> like this? '//xxx/xxx (C)'
[03:24] <Madnez> sounds like C++ :D
[03:24] <dystopianray> fm: you use a proxy?
[03:24] <Geeunkown> Doe anyone know how to write or save something in windows from ubuntu linux .  I keep getting permissions errors just to use a mounted drive..
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Madnez, Bash is a programming language :)
[03:25] <Usrl> super quick question: How can I have a program run and not print anything to the terminal, without sending it to an output log?
[03:25] <stefg> fm: are you behind a proxy?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | Geeunkown
[03:25] <fm> dystopianray no I dont
[03:25] <ubotu> Geeunkown: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:25] <dystopianray> Geeunkown: is it a fat32 or ntfs drive?
[03:25] <fm> I don't really know actually
[03:25] <LjL> Usrl: redirect to /dev/null
[03:25] <dystopianray> fm: you type the password into a web based form?
[03:25] <kiosk> bash?
[03:25] <Usrl> LjL: that'll work, thanks
[03:25] <Madnez> yeah but is it like C++?
[03:25] <Hadeshorn> !firefox
[03:25] <Madnez> for at least some of the commands? :)
[03:25] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:25] <allen> !herdy heron
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about herdy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <allen> err
[03:25] <Juhaz> Madnez, no.
[03:25] <fm> I type the password in a window that pops up
[03:25] <dystopianray> Madnez: no
[03:25] <allen> !gutsy gibbon
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutsy gibbon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <allen> lol
[03:26] <Madnez> awww, oh well
[03:26] <tonytraductor> Ubuntu 7.04 is now up and running on the old box...whooppee!! installing updates now
[03:26] <Pici> !gutsy | allen
[03:26] <ubotu> allen: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:26] <Madnez> guess its learning time again ;)
[03:26] <LadyNikon> heh nevermind my error was because i had synaptic open heh
[03:26] <dystopianray> fm: find out if it is a proxy that you are using
[03:26] <Geeunkown> I  have ntfs-g3 and it is update and yes the windows drive is format is  ntfs..  still have this issue..
[03:26] <Juhaz> even calling it programming language is pretty generous