[12:33] <sacarlson> landingonwater: I'm not sure what the install wizard is but mabe try gparted or other partition tool to resize to provide at least 10 gb free partition for ubuntu side install
[12:33] <tarelerulz> I have geforce 425 m  video card and I have hdmi video working on my tv ,but no sound.  Is there any fix to this ?
[12:34] <rams> red2kic, not slide show, making micromedia flash presentaions
[12:34] <landingonwater> sacarlson: but what about grub then ? will it break the win 7 boot ?
[12:34] <digitalfiz> tarelerulz, did you select the hdmi output as your sound device?
[12:34] <AbhijiT> rams, from open office or libre office expoert it to flash .sfw
[12:35] <sacarlson> landingonwater: your asking the wrong guy for that,  I run all windows in virtualbox,  but from word of mouth it should be not a big problem
[12:35] <Wipster> can I increase the dmesg buffer as a boot parameter?
[12:36] <Loller> I am having troubles with getting my wireless network to work on an Lenovo x100e (thinkpad). It is NOT the standard x100e network card in this laptop, lspci reports the following: "03:00.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 0576 (rev 01). Can you help me?
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Digitalfiz ,  I don't have the gnome sound app .  The ALSA mixer don't show any setting for the hd sound at all.
[12:36] <rams> AbhijiT, that worked:-). thank you
[12:36] <landingonwater> sacarlson: thanks. well.. not my machine actualy. so i dont want to mess it up. on my on own laptop 10.10 runs like a dream. haha.. it just cant see the broadcomcard :D that sucks.
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom| Loller
[12:37] <digitalfiz> tarelerulz, do you have the restricted drivers installed for nvidia?
[12:37] <Loller> ubottu: it is not the 43
[12:37] <milamber> Loller: did you enable restricted drivers?
[12:37] <landingonwater> HP Pavilion tx1000 is the most flawed laptop ever. im the lucky owner
[12:37] <doohan> Hi, nautilius is acting kind of wierd, it seems to have become the default program for opening just about everything when for example xdg-open or when chrome tries to open it. Nautilus then says "Location is Not a Folder"
[12:37] <psycho_oreos> Loller, no you get the broadcom-sta driver
[12:37] <doohan> Is there a way to make it open the file as though it where double clicked?.
[12:37] <sacarlson> landingonwater: in those cases like my scanner that can't run in linux i just do it in virtualbox
[12:37] <doohan> Im using ubuntu 10.10 btw
[12:38] <red2kic> AbhijiT: You do see .sfw? I don't. :(
[12:38] <tarelerulz> I installed the restricted driver offered by Ubuntu it game me a black screen . I had install the nvidia drivers from there site
[12:38] <Loller> psycho_oreos: you mean broadcom-sta-common? or should i compile myself?
[12:38] <landingonwater> ubottu: thanks for the link :) totally confusing. people have posted 20 ways of fixing the broadcom issue, so chance is that one gte it even more messed up
[12:38] <psycho_oreos> Loller, probably wouldn't recommend compiling unless you know what you are doing. Normally that can be enabled through something like jockey
[12:39] <VCoolio> doohan: if you double-click it uses gnome-open, xdg-open is different; use 'alternatives' to configure, or install 'galternatives' for a gui, don't know why it would use nautilus for everything
[12:39] <red2kic> AbhijiT: Ah. Found it.
[12:39] <sacarlson> landingonwater: that would also include a broadcom device if I couldn't get it to work with ndiswrapper
[12:39] <AbhijiT> red2kic, :)
[12:39] <landingonwater> sacarlson: hmm.. i must look into that. would be nice if any ugly surprices shoud turn up
[12:39] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, the problem is broadcom :) there's like 3 native drivers 1 broadcom-sta and the other is ndiswrapper, go figure
[12:39] <fmanach> Hi
[12:39] <Loller> psycho_oreos: it doesnt say that 0576 model is supported for the broadcom-sta driver
[12:40] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: what a nightmare. thanks Broadcom.
[12:40] <psycho_oreos> Loller, what does lspci -nnk say for that exact same line?
[12:40] <moldy> hi
[12:40] <fmanach> I was just wondering. Do you guys now if there is an iPad-like that can run Ubuntu Netbook Remix ?
[12:40] <sacarlson> psycho_oreos: I'm not sure bradcom usb has anything that will work in linux last I looked
[12:40] <azizLIGHTS> can someone explain me what is "certificate authority" and why u need for set up of l2tp vpn server. im tyrying to understand concepts inside a tutorial but it doesnt explain
[12:40] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, hopefully over time they will clear it up
[12:41] <moldy> fresh install of kubuntu 10.10 into a virtualbox on linux, apt-get segfaults everyimt time -- can anyone help?
[12:41] <psycho_oreos> sacarlson, bcm4320 (non 802.11n capable) is supported via rndis_wlan according to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/rndis_wlan
[12:41] <Loller> psycho_oreos: "03:00.0 Network Controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:0576] (rev 01)"
[12:41] <fmanach> Ooops... It's Ubuntu Netbook now I think... no "Remix" anymore
[12:41] <Aethelrick> azizLIGHTS, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority
[12:41] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: well.. i think its a problem that the broadcom issue is just too must to handle for a noob. some chick changing from windows to ubuntu dont stand a chance.
[12:41] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: a certification authority is a company that issues cryptographic certificates like the ones used in https ( ssl ) websites
[12:41] <sacarlson> psycho_oreos: is that native linux or just another ndiswrapper like thing?
[12:41] <landingonwater> not that chicks cant be geeks. sorry
[12:42] <psycho_oreos> Loller, lol well broadcom-sta won't work I guess the next choice is pretty much ndiswrapper and hope
[12:42] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: it is possible to create personal certificates afaik; deending on what you are doing it may be enough
[12:42] <azizLIGHTS> i dont understand all this on the wikipedia page. i have no idea what i means?
[12:42] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, it was lot worse before when broadcom only decided to release the binary blob which was cumbersome
[12:43] <landingonwater> ubottu: can you drop me that link again ? im in irssi, and dont kno ho to scroll back
[12:43] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: http://www.openssl.org/docs/HOWTO/certificates.txt
[12:43] <Loller> psycho_oreos: thanks. I have tried ndiswrapper before but it was buggy and i dont even remember if it worked at all
[12:43] <psycho_oreos> sacarlson, I'm not quite sure but I do believe its native, integrated as part of kernel.. under mac80211 framework
[12:43] <Asad> any idea where the GUI network-manager store its configuration?
[12:43] <kamalesh1> How do i make a collection of images my wallpaper ?
[12:43] <moldy>  rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin did the trick
[12:44] <Loller> psycho_oreos: why doesnt broadcom make drivers for all of their card -.-
[12:44] <psycho_oreos> Loller, guess you don't have much of a choice :) there's no native drivers that would support it (as they only support a handful altogether). The broadcom-sta was meant to cover a wide range but fails to work with yours. ndiswrapper is the last choice, doesn't work well with 64bit and now as you says fails. *shrugs* ideal to move onto another brand of laptop I'd say :)
[12:44] <sacarlson> psycho_oreos: I just read your link, maybe it's just not enabled in ubuntu for license problems,  next time I see someone else with a bcm usb I'll try it
[12:44] <AbhijiT> kamalesh1, edit them in gimp & make single fuile and then use it!
[12:44] <psycho_oreos> Loller, they do, but only for windows, they treated linux like a minority
[12:45] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: ell. even ith the broadcom working, HP tx1000 is still a dissaster.
[12:45] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: http://www.natecarlson.com/2006/07/10/configuring-an-ipsec-tunnel-with-openswan-and-l2tpd/
[12:45] <psycho_oreos> sacarlson, interesting even though it seems to be part of the kernel
[12:45] <AbhijiT> i heard that broadcom joins linux ?
[12:45] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT:  What  ? I guess you didnt understand what i meant, images will change periodicallu
[12:45] <Loller> psycho_oreos: ok, thanks for your help anyway :)
[12:45] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT: *periodically
[12:45] <AbhijiT> kamalesh1, ohh then use desktop drapes
[12:45] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, it's going to be even more hell if broadcom doesn't clear up their own mess quickly. It was ideally the choice for one to avoid buying broadcom wireless equipped devices
[12:46] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: you make a bad doctor. who wants bad news :D
[12:46] <azizLIGHTS> erUSUL: yes thats the link im on, it doesnt explain anything in conceptual ways i havenoi diea what he talking bout
[12:46] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT:  I can set a collection, which is available by default, I'm using ubuntu 10.10 . So i think i dont have to install any extra apps
[12:46] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, well at least I'm being frank
[12:46] <psycho_oreos> Loller, nw
[12:46] <AbhijiT> kamalesh1, install a software called desktop drapes
[12:46] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: frank in Chicago and Ernest in New York :D
[12:47] <azizLIGHTS> erUSUL: like practically speaking, what all that stuff means
[12:47] <sacarlson> psycho_oreos: I'm not sure ubuntu rules and kernel rules are the same, but if it's true I should find that drive in my kenel since it's 2.6.32-21-generic is should already be in there
[12:47] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, no frank as in putting things bluntly :p
[12:47] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT:  dude, it's already there by default, i'm using Ubuntu 10.10 . I just need to know how to add new sets
[12:47] <landingonwater> psycho_oreos: i agree. broadcom should lighten up. more *nix units will be sold.
[12:48] <AbhijiT> :/
[12:48] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, they are, but they are quite slow at it.. brcm80211 is the new driver by them with open source but it supports like 3 chipsets and isn't guaranteed to work well
[12:48] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT:  Are you using ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:48] <AbhijiT> no
[12:48] <kamalesh1> AbhijiT: ah Ok then :)
[12:48] <AbhijiT> hmm
[12:48] <psycho_oreos> sacarlson, interesting, it might not even be set to be compiled as a module I suppose
[12:49] <erUSUL> azizLIGHTS: well; from very high level --> the certification authority ensures that all the keys you are using ( by signing them etc ) are the keys they are supposed to be to avoid attacks.
[12:49] <Antonis> how can I run a command in ubuntu using something similar to -threads 0?
[12:52] <psycho_oreos> landingonwater, the other thing I want to also add is that with some laptop manufacturers, you can swap out the internal wireless card. However there's 5 manufacturers that I know of whom wants to control their consumers by whitelisting the minipci/minipcie wireless cards to be inserted into their device bays
[12:52] <Aethelrick> Antonis, I don't understand your example. Please tell me what you want to have happen and I'll try to help :)
[12:53] <Antonis> Aethelrick, when I encode something with ffmpeg I use -threads 0 to get all cores working
[12:53] <Antonis> is there something similar when running a command like make
[12:53] <Antonis> or make install?
[12:54] <psycho_oreos> no
[12:54] <Antonis> ok :P
[12:56] <mwally> My 10.04 LTS 64 server, which uses an encrypted lvm file-system, experienced an error and switched to a read-only file system about an hour ago.  I backed up all the important files and rebooted the machine.  After entering the keyphrase, fsck reports an error, demans a manual run, but does not spawn a shell.  What can I do to get a shell?
[12:57] <Aethelrick> Antonis, I understand your question now :) you may want to try make -j
[12:57] <Antonis> ah nice! thanks =)
[12:57] <Aethelrick> Antonis, http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#Parallel
[12:57] <Antonis> is this in general or do I have to check if a specific app supports it?
[12:58] <Wipster> ok so what does it mean when I try and boot but I get 'No init found. Try passing init= bootarg' I tries to add a boot option 'log_buf_len' but now have reverted it and still no init found
[12:59] <erUSUL> Wipster: either your grub.conf is wrong about what the root partition or the root partition is busted ( fs corruption ) and the init binary is gone )
[13:00] <erUSUL> Wipster: did you did partitioning in the disk? shirink partitions; create new ones or something ?
[13:00] <bc81> mwally: can you get a virtual console?
[13:00] <Aethelrick> Antonis, linux will make use of all your cores provided the applications you're running are multi-threaded. Single threaded applications will only use one core. You can run lots of single threaded applications on multiple cores though...
[13:00] <mwally> bc81, no
[13:00] <codemagician> can anyone explain the difference between /etc/init.d and upstart?
[13:01] <codemagician> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[13:01] <mwally> bc81, let me take a photo
[13:01] <codemagician> did this recently change in ubuntu?
[13:01] <Wipster> erUSUL, didn't try to repartition... well thats grand heh livecd time I guess see if I can recover
[13:01] <Aethelrick> codemagician, the idea is upstart is an "event based" replacement for init.d
[13:01] <erUSUL> Antonis: for make there is make -jn where n is the number of jobs you wat to simultanously.
[13:02] <codemagician> Aethelrick, who decided to change it?
[13:02] <erUSUL> Wipster: good luck check partitions with gparted...
[13:02] <whitemamba> HellO everybody can anybody help me install mypaint on ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[13:02] <Aethelrick> codemagician, lol... Ubuntu :) Scott James at Canonical wrote upstart, it looks pretty good, but it's early days yet I suppose
[13:02] <erUSUL> !info mypaint lucid
[13:03] <erUSUL> whitemamba: sudo apt-get install mypaint
[13:03] <codemagician> Aethelrick, but my entire system changed overnight without any choice or warning?
[13:03] <erUSUL> whitemamba: or use the ubuntu software center
[13:03] <whitemamba> < erUSL> true but getting some error
[13:03] <sacarlson> codemagician: in upstart things will start when all the things they need have already started,  init.d was not so much dependent on signals to start the next thing and only let one thread run at a time in a sequence
[13:04] <erUSUL> whitemamba: paste the error you get in a pastebin
[13:04] <erUSUL> !upstart | codemagician
[13:04] <codemagician> sacarlson, I understand.  So, do I have to relearn this and stop using /etc/init.d ?
[13:04] <sacarlson> codemagician: the end rusult will boot faster without waiting for some things you don't need
[13:04] <howoriginalAU> Hello again everyone :)
[13:05] <codemagician> sacarlson, my machine has a SSD and boots in 7.5 seconds
[13:05] <obscurant1st> not again!
[13:05] <Aethelrick> codemagician,  upstart has been creeping around for years, it still uses sysvinit scripts if you like
[13:05] <codemagician> sacarlson, and now I have to spend two hours learning something new instead of working
[13:05] <codemagician> sacarlson, will using /etc/init.d conflict if I mix and match?
[13:05] <howoriginalAU> I ended up installing it via USB stick since I quickly discovered I didn't have any CDs to burn....haha
[13:05] <sacarlson> codemagician: no at this time they both run,  some day we will all move to upstart, but now you can setup on eather side
[13:05] <whitemamba> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:05] <Aethelrick> codemagician, you don't have to panic, or change how you work
[13:06] <codemagician> Aethelrick, okay.  So will debian use this too... or will I need to remember the /etc/init.d way of starting processes?
[13:06] <sacarlson> codemagician: I think most upstarts still have scripts in /etc/init.d
[13:07] <Aethelrick> codemagician,  the /etc/init.d way is supported BY UPSTART although it also introduces a new way of working. You can use either way
[13:07] <whitemamba> when i try instal mypaint  this is the error i get    E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:07] <codemagician> Aethelrick, how well received has it been with the other distros?
[13:07] <mwally> bc81, http://i.imgur.com/8wAnO.jpg
[13:08] <howoriginalAU> Looks like everyone I was talking to before has gone :( Oh well
[13:08] <bc81> whitemamba: do you also have synaptic open?
[13:08] <whitemamba> i have closed it
[13:08] <sacarlson> codemagician: for my own private apps I use cron to start them, as far as I know @reboot will continue to be supported
[13:09] <Aethelrick> codemagician, fedora have adopted it, it's in openSuSE 11.3, Maemo uses it, ChomeOS uses it
[13:09] <whitemamba> bc81> no its closed
[13:09] <Aethelrick> codemagician, I think Debian is pondering it as well
[13:09] <codemagician> Aethelrick, yeah says optional on debian
[13:10] <howoriginalAU> Have I installed something wrong? I just put a DVD in and Movie player says it cannot read from resource
[13:10] <bc81> mwally: wow, that doesn't look too good..so it's stuck at that point?
[13:10] <ikonia> !dvd | howoriginalAU
[13:11] <Aethelrick> codemagician, to be honest, it looks like a nice piece of evolution and the way things are going. It dosn't break backwards compatibility :)
[13:11] <howoriginalAU> Oh, thankyou ikonia
[13:11] <mwally> bc81, yes, no virtural consoles, I can get SysRq's to work, but that doesn't help me any
[13:11] <Driiper> hello. any ubuntu/linux heroes here that know how to set up an socks5 proxy?
[13:12] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, hey, I just noticed you're back, how'd the install go?
[13:12] <spow> Hi, i'm trying to 'make' the driver of a new PCIe <=> RS232 card but have a list of errors :
[13:12] <ikonia> Driiper: socks5 is quite a dead technology now, there is a socks 5 server actually called "socks 5" that has always been very solid when I've used it
[13:12] <howoriginalAU> Hi Aethelrick, yeah it went really well - I ended up having to use a USB stick because I didn't have any CDs (haha) but it went quite quickly and I'm just downloading some updates it popped up
[13:12] <spow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/562518/
[13:13] <sagaci> It's encrypted
[13:13] <Driiper> which technology would you prefer if you want to  for example go through a school firewall then if not socks :)
[13:13] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, good to hear :)
[13:13] <Viliny> Hello!
[13:13] <ikonia> Driiper: I'd ask your school to resolve your connectivity
[13:13] <Viliny> does ubuntu ltsp server need to be a dhcp server? and assuming it does, can i tell my existing dhcp to somehow redirect the pxe booting from a separate machine?
[13:13] <Viliny> my dhcp server isn't the one that i want to use as a ltsp server
[13:14] <ikonia> Viliny: two dhcp servers on the same network isn't good
[13:14] <Viliny> i realize that
[13:14] <howoriginalAU> Aethelrick, yeah I'm just figuring what out what I'm going to do now - I guess I'll put all of the stuff I backed up back onto the main hard drive while it's updating. I was going to download the restricted formats some kind person linked me to before so I can play DVDs, but apparently I can't do it while it's downloading updates (I guess there's probably a good reason for that)
[13:14] <whitemamba> rtgenera@artgenera-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install mypaint  [sudo] password for artgenera:  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:14] <Driiper> ikonia: Thank you :)
[13:14] <Viliny> what im wondering is: can i make the old dhcp server tell the client "hey man, go HERE for a pxe boot!"
[13:14] <whitemamba> can anyone help me install mypaint
[13:15] <spow> try with synaptics maybe ?
[13:15] <ikonia> Viliny: depnds on the dhcp server you're running, you can point to pxe servers you want
[13:15] <Viliny> ikonia, it's a ubuntu box as well
[13:16] <ikonia> Viliny: ok, so you can assign ranges and mac addresses and point them at a pxe server of your choice
[13:16] <bc81> mwally: hmm... maybe boot a livecd, run sudo fsck -p <partition>
[13:16] <Viliny> ok, good. how? :)
[13:16] <ikonia> Viliny: look at dhcp pool configuration options in the documentation
[13:16] <howoriginalAU> Other than that it seems to be quite easy to use Aethelrick, I'm still getting used to the fact that I barely have to install anything. It kinda looks like a Mac, actually with the background and all
[13:16] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, yup, updates and installs are "atomic" because ubuntu keeps track of what you've got installed and the versions. So changing what is installed or doing an update needs to update this info and too many chefs could spoil the broth (so to speak)
[13:17] <Viliny> thanks ikonia
[13:17] <howoriginalAU> Ah I thought that might have been the case - too much at once accessing the same stuff
[13:17] <AbhijiT> where can i get more alarm sounds for alarm application in gnome?
[13:17] <ikonia> Viliny: one of the tricks is to refernce a filename, eg: pxeimage01 but make sure that only one pxe server is holding that image
[13:17] <Aethelrick> howoriginalAU, the mac-like appearance is no coincidence, it was actively copied in many ways :)
[13:18] <mwally> bc81, can I do that normal, or do I need to do something special because of the crypto?
[13:18] <howoriginalAU> Aethelrick, oh really? Well I guess they wanted it to be intuitive to PC and Mac users
[13:19] <sacarlson> Viliny: I've just got one of my systems to be a pxeboot server,  I disable my adsl box from being the dhcp server so I can setup from my ubuntu box
[13:19] <Viliny> sacarlson, cool
[13:19] <Viliny> i have a ubuntu server for a wide range of stuff
[13:19] <MadCarburetor> Hi
[13:19] <bc81> mwally: ooh, i'm not sure, sorry.  this is way over my head, so all i can do is wish you luck :-(
[13:20] <florian_> hi im having a bit issues with xonar dx 7.1 soundcards and ubuntu 10.10 (same issue on kubuntu): when i set the volume with the applets i get soundlags. i think this is the kernels fault because with fedora or any other distro it doesnt happen. it had a lot longer lags with 10.04
[13:20] <mwally> bc81, re-install it is :)  (Thank God I made that backup before the reboot)
[13:20] <sacarlson> Viliny: but it's presenly only setup as a installer , I had it used as persistant pxeboot but didn't continue
[13:20] <Viliny> i set up a virtual machine on my powerfull desktop to act as a pxe host but im starting to think that the implications of setting it up that way and having it show up for the network in an easy manner is too much hassle so im just installing the ltsp on my actual server to try it out
[13:20] <florian_> im using an nvidia graphicscard so i wonder if its recommend to install the mainline kernel
[13:20] <bc81> mwally: see http://iquaid.org/2008/03/04/running-fsck-on-a-luks-encrypted-partition-in-lvm/
[13:20] <florian_> i need the proprietary driver to work
[13:21] <MadCarburetor> When i start my computer and log into my user account it immediately asks me to enter my keyring password, How do i find out what application is asking for it?
[13:22] <MadCarburetor> At first i only needed to enter the keyring password when i tried to do something that needed it, Like connecting to my WiFi network, But now it's asks for the password as soon as i log in
[13:22] <detoxica> what ppa should I add to install nvidia beta 270 driver under natty alpha 2?
[13:23] <knottie> using lftp, why do I get this message: mget: Access failed: 521 Data connection cannot be opened with this security level.
[13:25] <MadCarburetor> Should i be worried that i have a virus or spyware or something?
[13:25] <obscurant1st> MadCarburetor: yeah the same happens for me too!
[13:26] <DiSTORT3D2> is there a way to make a apt-mirror @ windows server?
[13:26] <bc81> mwally: a bit old, but also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4524774&postcount=9
[13:26] <obscurant1st> so somebody, my system is asking for password to unlock keyring, everytime i login, wht should i doto avoid this?
[13:27] <sacarlson> Viliny: I had all my old server operations on a second low power 256meg ram system for years but it died now it all runs on my desktop 10.04 system, it did all that stuf, dhcp, route, apache, pxeboot, vpn, torrents after hours
[13:27] <MadCarburetor> obscurant1st, it's weird, i wan't to know what app that i installed is asking for my password
[13:27] <obscurant1st> i think its something like key management app!
[13:28] <obscurant1st> which stores our passwds! i amy be wrong also!
[13:28] <obscurant1st> there is something like kde-wallet in kde also!
[13:28] <MadCarburetor> It should be something that i installed, I don't mess with settings and stuff much so i'm sure it's the OS thats asking for the password
[13:29] <gordonjcp> obscurant1st: delete the keyring and don't set a keyring password
[13:29] <obscurant1st> gordonjcp: how can i do that?
[13:30] <bc81> MadCarburetor, obscurant1st : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9048669&postcount=4
[13:30] <mwally> bc81, I'm going to try that last one.  Failing that, I will replace the hardware with a new-in-box server of the same model, and restore from my latest (~2 hr ago) backup.  Thank you for your help.
[13:30] <knottie> using lftp, why do I get this message: mget: Access failed: 521 Data connection cannot be opened with this security level.
[13:30] <bc81> mwally, ok then.  good luck!!
[13:31] <MadCarburetor> I don't really mind typing the password everytime i log on, i just want to find out what's causing it to ask for it
[13:32] <obscurant1st> bc81: ok after reading that, i think i am choosing to type the password everytime!
[13:32] <obscurant1st> thanks for the link btw!
[13:33] <frogzoo> I have a 3G mobile that network manager doesn't recognise - I can dial out with pppd, but only up to 380k, (ie GSM) - any idea how to get 3G speeds?
[13:33] <codemagician> Aethelrick, want the only reason to write upstart to do with boot time?
[13:34] <sacarlson> frogzoo: gprs would be like 20k for me, 380k sounds good
[13:35] <Aethelrick> codemagician, no, not as I understand it... though that was one reason. it's a lot more flexible as it can load stuff in response to events like maybe plugging in an external drive or similar, whereas sysvinit cannot
[13:35] <frogzoo> heh
[13:35] <deweloper> Cześć
[13:36] <paradigmflow> I've just tried recordmydesktop and it's unusable :( are there any others that work?
[13:36] <deweloper> Mówicie po polsku ?
[13:36] <rigved> paradigmflow: what problem are you having with recordmydesktop?
[13:36] <paradigmflow> very laggy
[13:37] <bc81> !pl | deweloper
[13:37] <rigved> paradigmflow: my works fine...what computer do you have? CPU? RAM?
[13:37] <deweloper> Ale ja nie umiem angielskiego
[13:37] <sacarlson> paradigmflow: I've used recordmydesktop, worked ok just the sound wasn't perfectly synced
[13:37] <paradigmflow> I have an acer 8920g
[13:38] <paradigmflow> 3 gigs ram intel duo @ 2ghz
[13:38] <sacarlson> paradigmflow: I think it might be dependent on the video drivers
[13:38] <appleseed> Upgraded RAM from 8GB to 16GB, also upgraded SWAP from 8GB to 40GB (shouldn't matter), but now SUSPEND to RAM doesn't want to work, please any ideas?
[13:38] <rigved> paradigmflow: ya...that too
[13:39] <paradigmflow> radeon 3850 500meg card
[13:39] <rigved> paradigmflow: there's Istanbul Desktop Session Recorder...but gtk-recordmydesktop is the preferred one
[13:39] <paradigmflow> on the windows box camtasia runs smooth as silk, weird.
[13:40] <sacarlson> paradigmflow: radeon is that ATI video card?  that might be the problem, I use nvidia
[13:40] <rigved> appleseed: how exactly did you upgrade swap from 8 GB to 40 GB? is it one continuous partition?
[13:40] <appleseed> Ah, just had a brainwave, may be that USB3 is still enabled in BIOS, will check it out and come back to ya.
[13:40] <paradigmflow> yer
[13:40] <paradigmflow> ati
[13:40] <appleseed> rigved: have another drive, added swap partition, and moved in fstab
[13:41] <rigved> paradigmflow: do you use the open source ATI drivers?
[13:41] <sacarlson> paradigmflow: maybe try it in the vesa graphic mode without fancy eyecandy software it might still work
[13:42] <paradigmflow> well, im new to ubuntu, so clicked on an icon at the top menu and I had to 'activate' the driver?
[13:42] <paradigmflow> don't think it's open source
[13:42] <paradigmflow> looks like the proprietory one
[13:43] <paradigmflow> wasn't aware that there was an open source one to be honest
[13:43] <rigved> paradigmflow: ok. so that's the proprietary one
[13:43] <sacarlson> paradigmflow: well if you activated something you might try disable  the propriatary in the same maner as activating  and see if it changes anything
[13:43] <rigved> paradigmflow: try sacarlson's suggestion...
[13:44] <rickh> Only the binary driver gives decent 3d support for ATi, the FOSS driver lacks in that or support is still partial, mostly or WIP, but then again has a very very good 2d acceralation.
[13:44] <paradigmflow> right, I understood some of that :$
[13:46] <rigved> paradigmflow: in the top menu, click on System > Preferences > Appearance. Then click on the Visual Effects tab on the window that opens up. Select None. Close.
[13:46] <paradigmflow> ok done that
[13:47] <paradigmflow> don't know how to disable the driver
[13:47] <rigved> paradigmflow: now try recording
[13:47] <paradigmflow> ok
[13:47] <paradigmflow> brb
[13:47] <billmania> How do I configure a 10.04.2 LTS 32 bit notebook (2.6.32-28) to support photo transfer from a Samsung SCH-U640 Qualcomm 05c6:1000 mobile phone via USB?
[13:48] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[13:49] <sacarlson> billmania: I'm sure you must have tried but I would expect it would act as a usb disk and plug and play when you pluged it in
[13:49] <yellabs-r2> what would be the power use of an server , how much would it normally consume ?
[13:49] <yellabs-r2> dell poweredge 1850
[13:49] <billmania> sacarlson: Yes, tried that. lsusb lists the phone but it's not mounted as a filesystem and also not recognized as a modem.
[13:50] <spow> anyone knows what is the new variable which replaces tty in the struct uart_state (serial_core.h) since 2.6.32 ?? Can't finish converting the driver because of that :(
[13:50] <rigved> billmania: does your phone provide an option to select Mass Storage mode when connected via USB?
[13:50] <knottie> using lftp, why do I get this message: mget: Access failed: 521 Data connection cannot be opened with this security level.
[13:50] <sacarlson> billmania: well in this case you don't need a modem,  sudo lshw not show the device have a driver?
[13:51] <th_> blah
[13:51] <th_> Cain, i know your ip!
[13:51] <billmania> rigved: Yes, I've configured the phone to act in "media transfer" mode.
[13:51] <billmania> sacarlson: Correct, no driver is loaded for the phone. It does work on a MS-Windows notebook, so I'm fairly confident the phone itself is functional.
[13:52] <paradigmflow> right, that is a little better - but, I recorded the entire screen as the select area didn't seem to work?
[13:52] <paradigmflow> It is a drag out and click, isn't it?
[13:53] <billmania> I've been reading about Qualcomm storing the actual Windows driver on the phone, and that "automatically transfer the driver to Windows" setup is what's bother ubuntu.
[13:53] <billmania> There's a bug listed which suggests adding a line to /etc/modules but that doesn't work for me.
[13:53] <mwally> bc81, those instructions for fsck-ing the encrypted lvm were PERFECT.  I'm still going to provision a replacement server, but the important thing is that the current one is up and running, with 4 minutes to spare (until 9am ET).  Your Google skills rock.   Saved me some expensive downtime.
[13:53] <rigved> paradigmflow: use the Ubuntu Software center to download and install CompizConfig Settings Manager. enable desktop zoom. then you can zoom in on any area and record on that part
[13:53] <mwally> just missed him :]
[13:54] <paradigmflow> what is this 'vesa' mode?
[13:54] <billmania> There's also mention of usb_modeswitch but that seems oriented toward putting the phone into modem mode, which is probably the mode I can't get OUT of.
[13:54] <moldy> what is that "ready when you are" crap when installing 10.10? installation seems to hang if i select a keyboard layout...
[13:54] <nT4BR> hey guys, whats significate etc, in linux filesystem?
[13:55] <rigved> !vesa | paradigmflow
[13:55] <moldy> i can't see what is actually happening because the text window is outside of the screen. argh.
[13:56] <ikonia> nT4BR: which linux file system
[13:56] <sacarlson> billmania: what about view of dmesg
[13:56] <webroasters> hi guys. I've changed the nautilus gconf-editor setting in apps - nautilus - prefs:: use_location_entry = checked, however, I'm still showing the breadcrumbs crap in the folder window
[13:56] <Phuzzy> quick question... is apt broken?
[13:56] <paradigmflow> right, I see, will get that compizconfig manager, see how that goes, also would lowering the 32 bit colour down to 16 bit do better?
[13:56] <billmania> sacarlson: dmesg records that the device was physically connected, but does NOT mention a specific driver being loaded or a device file being created.
[13:56] <Cain> th_ : good for you !!
[13:56] <spow> anyone running a kernel prior to 2.6.32 please ?
[13:57] <webroasters> can someone help me make sure it shows the location window correctly
[13:57] <milamber> Phuzzy: are you getting an error message?
[13:57] <th_> Cain, :D
[13:57] <Phuzzy> http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/multiverse fails to update with an integrity error
[13:57] <th_> just trollin'
[13:57] <Cain> ;)
[13:58] <ikonia> th_: please don't
[13:58] <MrShmelo12> can i ask dns related question ?
[13:58] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: is it an ubuntu issue ?
[13:58] <webroasters> anyone??
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:58] <rigved> paradigmflow: i don't know if lowering the colour depth will help...
[13:58] <ikonia> webroasters: anyone what
[13:59] <webroasters> can help me with my question
[13:59] <MrShmelo12> kinda its hotsed on ubuntu
[13:59] <webroasters> plz??
[13:59] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: if it's an ubuntu issue we can help
[13:59] <sacarlson> billmania: well this phone worked back in 8.04, but I see people working it with tried adding the line usb-storage option_zero_cd=2   to /etc/modules  as seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1145846.html  but didn't work for all people
[13:59] <paradigmflow> tis ok, I'm just sorting this compiz out, will see how that goes
[13:59] <MrShmelo12> i have domain and i dont know why apache cannot see it its dev.shutaf.im, how can i see where is the problem?
[13:59] <webroasters> I've changed the nautilus gconf-editor setting in apps - nautilus - prefs:: use_location_entry = checked, however, I'm still showing the breadcrumbs crap in the folder window
[13:59] <MrShmelo12> im hosting on apache
[13:59] <milamber> Phuzzy: mine is up. try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get check
[13:59] <billmania> sacarlson: Yup, that's the line I tried in my /etc/modules, but no joy.
[13:59] <ikonia> webroasters: saying anyone is pointless, if someone knows the answer they will respond, if someone didn't see the question saying "anyone" won'tt help them to help you
[14:00] <webroasters> @ikonia: I've changed the nautilus gconf-editor setting in apps - nautilus - prefs:: use_location_entry = checked, however, I'm still showing the breadcrumbs crap in the folder window
[14:00] <webroasters> there, that's the question
[14:00] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: does the hostname dev.shutaf.im respond if you query it from the apache server in question
[14:00] <Phuzzy> nope... 99%, same error every time
[14:00] <Phuzzy> also, this is a fresh install
[14:00] <billmania> sacarlson: I'm hesitant to upgrade this particular notebook to 10.10 just yet, because that upgrade broke GDM on my desktop.
[14:01] <MrShmelo12> i get the page cannot be displayed
[14:01] <freakynl> hi, I want to create a bootable usb stick to install ubuntu 10.10 server (no cdrom). Can I just select the ubuntu 10.10 live64 to create a stick for server? Live actually is the desktop version...
[14:01] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: that's not what I asked
[14:01] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: from the apache server, can you resolve the full DNS name in question
[14:01] <sacarlson> billmania: no it worked before 8.04 or 8.10,  later it stoped working at 9.10....
[14:01] <milamber> Phuzzy: those commands shouldn't have given you a percentage. did it report any errors?
[14:02] <MrShmelo12> how i do that?
[14:02] <Olfway> ok, I have a question.  I'm running Kubuntu on a flash drive so I don't have to degrade myself by using windows.  Is there a way I can create a new user profile on here, because the regular way doesn't seem to work...
[14:02] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: have you ever hosted a website before ?
[14:02] <billmania> sacarlson: Understood. There are also some comments on some of the bugs stating that the phone works again with some 10.10 systems.
[14:02] <sacarlson> billmania: newer is not always better is what I am tring to say
[14:02] <MrShmelo12> yeah
[14:02] <billmania> sacarlson: I hear you loud and clear.
[14:02] <MrShmelo12> i ask with what tool i use
[14:02] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: ok, so check the dns name resolves on the apache machine
[14:02] <Phuzzy> sorry no those completed fine... "Reading package lists... Done
[14:02] <Phuzzy> Building dependency tree
[14:02] <Phuzzy> Reading state information... Done
[14:02] <Phuzzy> "
[14:02] <billmania> Hence my reluctance to upgrade.
[14:02] <FloodBot2> Phuzzy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:02] <MrShmelo12> dig nslookup ping
[14:02] <sacarlson> billmania: ok I missed that link
[14:02] <elnur> Which package is needed in ubuntu to resolve domain names like google.com?
[14:02] <Phuzzy> then run an update after that and it fails on same site at 99%
[14:02] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: what ever you want
[14:03] <milamber> !repositories | Phuzzy: go to the section on changing mirrors
[14:03] <MrShmelo12> question section: dev.shutaf.im.                 IN      A , autority : shutaf.im.              39343   IN      SOA     ns1.speedydns.net. none.none.com.<PHONE_NUMBER> 86400 7200 3600000 86400
[14:04] <MrShmelo12> i moved it at the morning
[14:04] <MrShmelo12> i made the dns
[14:04] <MrShmelo12> cname
[14:04] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: can you please listen to what I'm asking and stop pasting random stuff
[14:04] <susundberg> :D
[14:04] <rigved> elnur: none. that's the job of the DNS server. do you want to know the package required to resolve domains on a ubuntu server?
[14:04] <spow> Hi i'm trying to update a serial driver, but I run in the error : "struct uart_state has no member tty", I'm looking for an old version of the header to replace tty by the appropriate variable but I can't find one
[14:04] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: does the fully qualified dns name respond on the apache web server
[14:04] <iuri> Hi there, i can't remove emacsen-common from my box. I installed emacs22 and it threw out errors on emacsen-common then i tried to run apt-get purge but it gets stuck at emacsen-common
[14:04] <sacarlson> billmania: don't blame you, I never upgrade till it's broken or there is some new software that no longer runs on mine without backports or is within 6 months of no longer being suported
[14:04] <Phuzzy> thnx..ill give it a shot
[14:04] <iuri> any ideas?
[14:05] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: can you resolve the fully qualified dns name on the apache machine
[14:05] <jrib> iuri: "gets stuck" is too vague.  Pastebin terminal input and output (in full)
[14:05] <erUSUL> iuri: show the actual error message you get when you try
[14:05] <billmania> sacarlson: :-D
[14:05] <erUSUL> !details | iuri
[14:05] <namkangwan> #heyhawarkoh
[14:05] <MrShmelo12> what command i should use?
[14:05] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: what ever command you normally use to test this
[14:05] <elnur> rigved, I mean my ubuntu installation doesn't resolve dns names, so, for example, when I type ping google.com it replies with this: ping: unknown host google.com
[14:05] <MrShmelo12> ping/dig
[14:05] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: what ever you are comfortable with
[14:06] <elnur> rigved, nvm, it's because i'm not connected to a network
[14:06] <erUSUL> elnur: how does your /etc/resolv.conf fle looks like?
[14:06] <MrShmelo12> if i ping without cname , like shutaf.im its works other no response
[14:06] <iuri> jrib,  http://pastebin.com/X4Xw7e5P
[14:06] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: so then "no" the fully qualified dns name is not setup
[14:07] <rigved> elnur: ya...i was going to ask you check your connection next by typing the IP of the google server
[14:07] <elnur> erUSUL, got 2 nameserver entries. i've found that i'm not connected to a network. that's the problem
[14:07] <ikonia> MrShmelo12: you need to resolve your dns configuration for dev.shutaf.im
[14:07] <erUSUL> elnur: ok
[14:07] <elnur> rigved, erUSUL, ifconfig shows lo interface only.
[14:07] <ChaosR> hello, currently, every reboot my theme reverts to the default gnome theme (raleigh, and gnome icons), until I reset the theme back in appearance, logout and login, and repeat that a few times, any way to stop this highly annoying issue?
[14:07] <iuri> jrib, and this one is to purge emacs22
[14:07] <iuri> http://pastebin.com/RwR6xmKm
[14:08] <iuri> ubottu, and this one is to purge emacs22
[14:08] <jrib> iuri: investigate /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacsen-common.*
[14:08] <Pici> iuri: no need to address ubottu, its a bot.
[14:08] <iuri> jrib, what do you mean
[14:08] <Ubacka> Hello
[14:09] <Phuzzy> ok so that kinda helped... my main problem persists however...
[14:09] <elnur> Then which package is needed to connect via a dhcp server?
[14:09] <jrib> iuri: pastebin: ls -ld /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacsen-common.{prerm,postinst}; cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/emacsen-common.{prerm,postinst}
[14:09] <Phuzzy> i need to install cvs... which has now been replaced by cvsnt ist seems. cvsnt is, however, broken, not apt
[14:09] <milamber> Phuzzy: can you pastebin your command/output?
[14:10] <chocobanana> Hi everyone
[14:10] <jrib> Phuzzy: cvs is still in the repositories
[14:10] <chocobanana> is it possible to sync a Windows Phone 7 device in Ubuntu?
[14:10] <ikonia> chocobanana: very unlikley
[14:10] <leftist> i  talked about this last night.  i am unable to install or uninstall any applications, updates, etc.  it occured during the install of a printer driver.
[14:10] <jrib> Phuzzy: or do you know you want cvsnt?  In that case tell us how exactly it is "broken"
[14:10] <Bushman> what I want to know is what package is needed to fix the f***ed up bluetooth dongle driver so my mouse won't cause the BT dongle to die
[14:10] <Phuzzy> milamber: sure... erm... how?
[14:10] <ikonia> Bushman: control your langauge
[14:11] <rigved> elnur: ubuntu installs everything automatically. are you connected via router? if yes then make sure that your router is not blocking?
[14:11] <milamber> !pastebin > Phuzzy
[14:11] <multiplatinum> upon logging in, i get randomly disconnected and reconnected for 15 mins, then i stay connected, help plz
[14:11] <jrib> leftist: show us what happens when you try to install something via apt-get (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[14:11] <Bushman> ikonia: i just controled it. i controled it with auto censorship
[14:11] <anonymous> !de
[14:11] <sacarlson> Phuzzy: I assume cvs to git isn't an option?  I love the git gui to view who did what when and snap back from one to anther,  I never saw anything like that in cvs
[14:11] <ikonia> Bushman: you don't star out words, if you need to star them out, don't say them
[14:11] <Ubacka> Hello, I'm new to using Ubuntu and I'm wondering if it would be possible for me to reboot from Ubuntu to Windows without having to change the OS at startup
[14:11] <vBm> can onyone help out ... how to 'fix' this warning ? -> warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 816 package 'gtk2-engine-oria-amd64': missing description
[14:11] <leftist> jrib i already have a report on launchpad but give me a sec.
[14:11] <DexterLB> hello. I have a problem with notify-osd. I'm using NVidia twinView and the baloons always appear on the upper-right corner of the _entire_ virtual desktop. I want them on the primary screen only
[14:11] <Guest35749> !de
[14:12] <iuri> jrib, http://pastebin.com/0BpQr1t5
[14:12] <elnur> rigved, i'm experimenting by removing Ubuntu Desktop task via tasksel. I want to know which packages are required as minimal to keep them, so that I can install other packages.
[14:12] <Bushman> ikonia: how bout you or someone else help me atlast so i don't have to ask for help at all?
[14:12] <ikonia> Bushman: just control your language
[14:12] <elnur> rigved, first i discovered that ubuntu-minimal is required, so I kept it. but that's not enough, it seems
[14:12] <jrib> iuri: why are they empty (they should not be)?
[14:13] <rigved> !dhcp | elnur
[14:13] <Phuzzy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/562543/
[14:13] <iuri> jrib, i have no idea
[14:13] <arbiter> I need some help with evolution mail, i set up my account but forgot to set it to leave messages on the server, does anybody know how I can get my received messages back onto the server I got them from?
[14:13] <leftist> http://pastebin.com/S8FXaLbb
[14:13] <iuri> jrib, i just install them via apt-get
[14:13] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi guys. I am having major trouble getting a USB Adaptor to connect. It's a Ralink 3070 chip, and it can SEE the wireless connection, but it wont connect to it, even though my other card (the one I am speaking to you now on) connects instantly. I have googled and tried everything, to no avail. Any suggestions??
[14:13] <leftist> i am trying to remove it but it wont
[14:13] <elnur> rigved, my system has dhcp3-client installed. shouldn't that be enough?
[14:13] <jrib> iuri: see if that's the case with other files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[14:13] <iuri> then it threw errors then i tried to remove
[14:14] <leftist> it wont allow me to reinstall it nor uninstall it. it's in limbo
[14:14] <Bushman> ikonia: look, i've paid lost of money for brand new bluetooth mouse and rechargable batteries for it. You also would be pissed of if you come home and your new equipment works but fails every few minutes and you have to wait for it to reconect, wouldn't you?
[14:14] <ikonia> Bushman: I don't care for your reasoning, I'm just asking you to control your language please.
[14:14] <iuri> jrib, yes, it is .postrm and .conffiles
[14:15] <jrib> iuri: even files for packages other than emacs-common!?
[14:15] <rigved> elnur: install dhclient. that's the standard one. it'll be enough.
[14:15] <jrib> leftist: is this some third party package?
[14:15] <paradigmflow> I've disabled everything bar zoom in compiz, however, the combo for zoom is; Super + button 4, I take it the windows key is the super one?
[14:15] <Bushman> ikonia: oh, i see... you care for my language but not my ubuntu problems? nice... really nice. -_-'
[14:15] <leftist> it's for a brother printer yeah jrib.
[14:15] <iuri> jrib, yes
[14:15] <milamber> Phuzzy: are you running lucid?
[14:15] <iuri> jrib, all of them
[14:15] <Gwar_Trolle> paradigmflow: yes, Super = Winblows key
[14:15] <rigved> paradigmflow: yes
[14:15] <iuri> jrib, just weird
[14:15] <jrib> iuri: hmm... that's not good...
[14:15] <paradigmflow> and 4?
[14:16] <Phuzzy> milamber: yup
[14:16] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi guys. I am having major trouble getting a USB Adaptor to connect. It's a Ralink 3070 chip, and it can SEE the wireless connection, but it wont connect to it, even though my other card (the one I am speaking to you now on) connects instantly. I have googled and tried everything, to no avail. Any suggestions??
[14:16] <paradigmflow> keypad?
[14:16] <elnur> rigved, there is no such package dhclient
[14:16] <jrib> iuri: I thought that it would be just this package and then you could just delete those files and apt would fetch them again, but now we need to figure out what is going on
[14:16] <erUSUL> Gwar_Trolle: try updateing wifi drivers « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic »
[14:16] <iuri> jrib, there is one .list take a look
[14:16] <iuri> http://pastebin.com/D54EhW1m
[14:17] <Bushman> ubuntu 10.04 Long Time Support.   You can edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/fax2850lpr.postrm  and make smart comments.  If you aren't sure what to do, pastebin that file
[14:18] <DexterLB> ikonia: ok I'm shutting up
[14:18] <ikonia> Bushman: drop it, ask/wait for support, or don't participate
[14:18] <jrib> iuri: right, but are there any files not about emacs-common that exhibit this zero-size property?
[14:18] <leftist> thanks jrib
[14:18] <Bushman> ikonia: read the back log! i've asked many times!
[14:18] <milamber> Phuzzy: sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get autoremove
[14:18] <Bushman> i wait weeks now
[14:18] <ikonia> Bushman: so wait
[14:19] <Bushman> how long?
[14:19] <ikonia> Bushman: it's a public support channel, no-one has to help, but people will if they know the answer and have time
[14:19] <rigved> !info dhclient | elnur
[14:19] <elnur> Is there a minimal Ubuntu ISO?
[14:19] <Bushman> till i get tired and migrate to other distro?
[14:19] <bazhang> elnur, yes 20 mb iso
[14:19] <iuri> jrib, no
[14:19] <rigved> elnur: hmmm...it's not present in 10.10
[14:19] <the_german> elnur: yes ther is
[14:19] <Gwar_Trolle> erUSUL: I tried that already, no sucess
[14:19] <bazhang> Bushman, if someone knows they will answer
[14:19] <iuri> jrib, other files have content
[14:19] <ikonia> Bushman: you're welcome to try a different distro if you feel it will work better, that can be a good option
[14:19] <Bushman> -_-'
[14:19] <sacarlson> Phuzzy: I guess no one is supporting cvs?  maybe because git is better and you can import to git http://maymay.net/blog/2008/04/15/how-to-import-cvs-code-repositories-into-git-using-git-cvsimport/
[14:19] <erUSUL> Gwar_Trolle: you have to reboot after installing...
[14:20] <elnur> bazhang, the_german, thx. then google ftw
[14:20] <Gwar_Trolle> yeah, i tried it before I mean.
[14:20] <Gwar_Trolle> Didn't help
[14:20] <bazhang> !minimal | elnur
[14:20] <rigved> elnur: but i have dhclient installed. it even has a manual entry
[14:20] <Bushman> if there was a ready answer for my problem i would find it on the forums or google long time ago
[14:20] <anonboots> Exactly.
[14:20] <elnur> rigved, strangely, i can't find it
[14:20] <anonboots> So shut up and wait.
[14:20] <Bushman> it's a NEW PROBLEM and there is no aswer yet
[14:20] <iuri> jrib, for example this one http://pastebin.com/HsgwAqZc
[14:20] <jrib> iuri: ok, then just delete the zeroed-out emacs-common files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.  I'm actually not sure if apt will try to fetch them again when you try to remove (if not, then reinstall the package first)
[14:20] <bazhang> Bushman, asking every few seconds won't get better/faster support
[14:20] <elnur> bazhang, aha, thx
[14:20] <ikonia> anonboots: that's uncalled for
[14:21] <ikonia> anonboots: don't be rude
[14:21] <ikonia> Bushman: yes, it's new, so no-one knows the answer
[14:21] <Phuzzy> sacarlson: unfortunately we specifically require cvs...and will continue to do so until reviewd. This is slightly troubling for me as i did this exact installation not 2 months ago without a hitch
[14:21] <Bushman> bazhang: i was asking twice a day
[14:21] <Bushman> morning and evening
[14:21] <ikonia> Bushman: that doesn't mean someone knows the answer
[14:21] <ikonia> Bushman: have you confirmed if the hardware is compatible with Linux ?
[14:21] <bazhang> Bushman, you're asking every few seconds now. please wait 15 minutes before you ask again
[14:21] <leftist> jrib i am not sure what to do with this http://pastebin.com/WFn5wK45
[14:21] <iuri> jrib, good I could get emacsen-common removed
[14:21] <rigved> elnur: i tried to find it in apt-cache also. it exists. but it's not present in the repos.
[14:22] <jrib> leftist: put a # at the beginning of the third line
[14:22] <leftist> that is what i thought jrib
[14:22] <jrib> iuri: do you know if it fetched the postrm and prerm scripts and ran them?
[14:22] <sacarlson> Phuzzy: well just a few more hoops to jump then,  maybe a look in ppa
[14:22] <Bushman> bazhang: i'm not asking now, i'm arguing with ikonia and i don't know why -_-'
[14:22] <Bushman> damn
[14:22] <ikonia> Bushman: have you confirmed if the hardware is compatible with Linux ?
[14:22] <bazhang> Bushman, move on please
[14:22] <Bushman> ikonia: yes, it's fully operational
[14:22] <ikonia> Bushman: , no it's compatible
[14:22] <ikonia> Bushman: have you checked it's compatability /
[14:23] <milamber> !info dhcp-client maverick
[14:23] <Bushman> the problem is it crashes when BT mouse is used
[14:23] <ikonia> Bushman: ok, so it's not fully operational
[14:23] <sacarlson> Phuzzy: or if foward fails you can always move backward
[14:23] <rigved> elnur: so, there is no way to download it from the repos. hmmm. then i guess dhcp3-client should suffice
[14:23] <ikonia> Bushman: have you checked it's compatability ?
[14:23] <multiplatinum> upon logging in, i get randomly disconnected and reconnected for 15 mins, then i stay connected, help plz
[14:23] <iuri> jrib, what do you mean by fetch?
[14:23] <Bushman> ikonia: where can i check it?
[14:23] <jrib> iuri: never mind
[14:23] <iuri> jrib, i believe it didn't http://pastebin.com/RtwiJQpY
[14:23] <ikonia> Bushman: with the vendor is always a good start
[14:23] <ikonia> Bushman: then depending on that response, with secondary levels
[14:23] <iuri> jrib, but seriously, what is fetch?
[14:24] <v0lksman> hi!  where is the official bug tracker?
[14:24] <jrib> iuri: oh, it means "get" or "download" in this case
[14:24] <elnur> rigved, i had it but it wasn't enough. okay, i'll try the ubuntu minimal cd. thx for trying to hlep
[14:24] <AbhijiT> !bug | v0lksman
[14:24] <rigved> multiplatinum: do you get this problem in other accounts as well?
[14:24] <Bushman> and it does operate, just not permanently. it crashes in random intervals
[14:24] <iuri> jrib, ah okay
[14:24] <ikonia> Bushman: that's not what I asked
[14:24] <multiplatinum> rigved,  i only have one user on this machine, myself xD
[14:24] <v0lksman> AbhijiT, thx
[14:24] <iuri> jrib, can you see it didn't?
[14:24] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi guys. I am having major trouble getting a USB Adaptor to connect. It's a Ralink 3070 chip, and it can SEE the wireless connection, but it wont connect to it, even though my other card (the one I am speaking to you now on) connects instantly. I have googled and tried everything, to no avail. Any suggestions??
[14:24] <ikonia> Bushman: I asked about compatatability
[14:25] <ikonia> Bushman: if this is a new problem with no information, getting information is key
[14:25] <rigved> elnur: you are welcome. though i wasn't able to help. yes use the minimal CD
[14:25] <ikonia> Bushman: getting the vendors stance on Linux compatability is a good start
[14:25] <jrib> iuri: I said "never mind" because if the postinst and preinst scripts were also empty, then it doesn't matter whether you ran the postrm and prerm scripts :)
[14:25] <rigved> multiplatinum: create a new user and use that account. check if this problem persists on that account too.
[14:26] <elnur> rigved, seems like holing network-manager package did the job. :)
[14:26] <iuri> jrib, okay. Thank you. The problem is solved
[14:26] <SDr> hey guys
[14:26] <leftist> wow that fixed it jrib i just didnt know where to look for it :) bless you!!
[14:26] <elnur> rigved, *holding
[14:26] <multiplatinum> ok rigved, gotta give me some time then though
[14:26] <SDr> using bash, how can I delete all files in a directory, that are older, than 2 weeks?
[14:26] <MikeChelen> has anyone experienced monitor burn-in with the default panels and menus?
[14:26] <Phuzzy> meh.... still not having any luck... *sigh* lets go find those source files then. thanx anyway guys
[14:26] <Bushman> ikonia: this should provide all information you can posibly wish: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/1/19/168
[14:26] <rigved> elnur: ok. good. that'll also give you more easier control over the network connection.
[14:26] <ikonia> Bushman: why would that provide information
[14:27] <rigved> multiplatinum: ok
[14:27] <jrib> iuri: you might check out Bug #512096 once launchpad decides to work again
[14:27] <erUSUL> SDr: try this first --> find dir -mtime +14 -exec echo rm '{}' +
[14:27] <leftist> i am running a partial upgrade because i am limited due to that broken package from brother...brb
[14:27] <erUSUL> SDr: if it looks ok remove the echo
[14:27] <jrib> SDr: hold on a second
[14:27] <ikonia> Bushman: get the vendors stance on Linux support,
[14:27] <ikonia> Bushman: that link provides nothing different to what you have said in this channel
[14:28] <ikonia> Bushman: the fact that you are sending that information to a kernel list shows you think it's a kernel issue, not an ubuntu issue, so there is no point progressing it in this channel
[14:28] <iuri> jrib, Yep! thanks
[14:28] <Wipster_> I'm in a live cd trying to repair my no init found issue with fsck /dev/sda1 and its telling me device or resource busy while trying to open, fs mounted or opened exclusicvly by another program? How can I fix this
[14:28] <trans> hello anybody using empathy here, I cant set status to invisible, using gtalk and facebook accounts
[14:28] <drizt> hello! i want to rename .deb package. Which section in the control file i should use? (conflicts, provides, replaces)
[14:28] <jrib> SDr: note that erUSUL's is based on mtime (modification time).  I just noticed erUSUL put an echo in there so you can see what it does first, so go for it :P
[14:28] <elnur> rigved, yea. but installing ubuntu desktop and then ubuntu-desktop task doesn't feel right, so gonna try ubuntu minimal cd anyway.
[14:28] <Bushman> ikonia: i don't know whats the problem
[14:28] <queso> I have two 10.10 systems experiencing the same issue. One is a desktop using wireless (not using network-manager, I've put the settings in /etc/network/interfaces), the other a laptop using ethernet through a docking port (using network-manager). The issue is that for both networking will randomly stop working.  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart works for the deskop machine for a while, but then eventually even that doesn't work --
[14:28] <ikonia> Bushman: ok, so why have you sent it to the kernel list
[14:29] <xangua> trans: jabber implementation of facebook chat doesn't support 'invisible'
[14:29] <elnur> rigved, *and then REMOVING ubuntu-desktop
[14:29] <ikonia> Bushman: why are you not getting the vendor information as I'm asking
[14:29] <SDr> jrib, erUSUL, tyvm ^^
[14:29] <Bushman> ikonia: some dude didn't know how to bite it and he told me to post it on LKML
[14:29] <drizt> I want that it is possible to update my installed packages without removing.
[14:29] <ikonia> Bushman: how to "bite it" - can you please talk in clear English
[14:29] <Bushman> ikonia: what's a vendor information?
[14:29] <rigved> elnur: cool. all the best!
[14:29] <elnur> rigved, thx. you too :)
[14:29] <Bushman> manufactirer?
[14:29] <trans> xangua: is it supportable in pidgin
[14:29] <spow> Hi, I'm trying to update a driver but i'm stuck at this line : struct tty_struct *tty = up->port.state->tty;       I don't know which variable replaces tty, or even in which version tty was an actual variable, could soemone please help me ?
[14:29] <ikonia> Bushman: vendor information - that is what I've been telling you to get for the past 5 minutes, contact the vendor for Linux support details
[14:30] <rigved> trans: i think facebook does not support invisible status.
[14:30] <trans> It does I think
[14:30] <rigved> elnur: :)
[14:30] <Amaranth> trans: The web version of it certainly doesn't
[14:31]  * Bushman gets contemporary english language dictionary and checks for "vendor"
[14:31] <Bushman> -_-'
[14:31] <ikonia> Bushman: stop messing around
[14:31] <phimic> hi all
[14:31] <ikonia> Bushman: you're moaning you're not getting help, I'm helping you and you're making jokes
[14:31] <aadem> Good morning everyone,   is there anyone here who can recommend an advanced unix/linux terminal/console guide , preferrably one that is comprehensive and large and maybe even well known?
[14:31] <ikonia> Bushman: get the Vendor support information, it is important to know if the vendor has any linux support and if so what their requirements are
[14:31] <bazhang> !abs > aadem
[14:32] <phimic> i have a ibm X3550M3 with a intel 6-c x5650 xeon cpu
[14:32] <aadem> thank you so much!
[14:32] <erUSUL> bazhang: tst tst ... people at #bash hate that guide ;P
[14:32] <Gnea> Bushman: does the dongle lose power when the laptop is plugged into the wall?
[14:32] <Bushman> ikonia: could you please stop using word vendor?
[14:32] <spow> !abs > spow
[14:32] <phimic> which image i should use i386 or amd64?
[14:32] <ikonia> Bushman: no, as it's the correct word
[14:32] <bazhang> !rute > aadem
[14:32] <bazhang> erUSUL, :)
[14:32] <freakynl> !abs > freakynl
[14:32] <ikonia> Bushman: contact the vendor, ask them about Linux support and if there is any what are the requirements
[14:32] <Bushman> ikonia: use a synonym please
[14:32] <trans> oh got it, we can go offline but not invisible
[14:32] <Gnea> Bushman: also, it would be to your advantage not to talk back to ikonia
[14:32] <bazhang> Bushman, seller
[14:32] <trans> I was confused
[14:32] <ikonia> Bushman: no, it's the correct word
[14:32] <Bushman> well the seller is a mall
[14:33] <Gnea> Bushman: in the industry, the term 'vendor' is spot-on correct.
[14:33] <Bushman> they know nothing
[14:33] <Loki^> my tty1-6 are not starting anymore, can anyone help me?
[14:33] <ikonia> Bushman: the vendor is the company that makes the device
[14:33] <Bushman> ahh, so it's the manufacturer
[14:33] <bazhang> Bushman, vendor is who makes it and then sells it
[14:33] <Gnea> Bushman: the vendor is the company that makes and, thus, SELLS the device. the term is correct.
[14:33] <Bushman> i've asked that 10 minutes ago
[14:33] <Gnea> Bushman: if a place manufactures a device and doesn't see a penny for it, how would they be a vendor then?
[14:33] <ikonia> Bushman: ok, so wait until the vendor responds with details
[14:34] <Pici> Lets get back on topic.
[14:34] <Gnea> Bushman: enough of your off-topicness, does the dongle lose power when the laptop is plugged into the wall?
[14:34] <trans> thanks guys for the help
[14:34] <trans> bye everybody, have a nice day all
[14:35] <Bushman> ok, so the "vendor" is Esperanza, model is EM117. On the box it says it's designed for Windows and Mac
[14:35] <Bushman> says nothing about linux but
[14:35] <ikonia> Bushman: contact the vendor and ASK about Linux support
[14:35] <Gnea> Bushman: I don't care, answer my question please.
[14:35] <Bushman> it also says it's PnP and requires no driver
[14:35] <ikonia> Bushman: contact the vendor and ASK about Linux support
[14:35] <Gnea> Bushman: just answer the question.
[14:35] <Bushman> give me a minute
[14:35] <me4oslav> good afternoon
[14:37] <Loki^> my tty1-6 are not starting anymore, can anyone help me?
[14:37] <Gnea> Loki^: how have you determined that they are not starting?
[14:37] <russjr08> Hey guys, how do I install the Unity Global thing in Ubuntu 10.10?
[14:38] <me4oslav> sudo apt-get install appmenu
[14:38] <Loki^> Gnea i pressed strg + alt + f1-6 and theres only a blinking coursor... plus i used this command, forgot wich, to see if tty's are loaded, and its only tty7
[14:39] <Gnea> Loki^: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[14:39] <Loki^> Gnea 10.10
[14:39] <Gnea> Loki^: and when did they start going away?
[14:39] <russjr08> me4oslav, it says Unable to find the package "appmenu"
[14:39] <Loki^> Gnea im pretty sure it was after an automatic update
[14:40] <Gnea> Loki^: did you reboot?
[14:40] <Loki^> Gnea plenty times
[14:40] <pksadiq> !find appmenu
[14:40] <russjr08> I'm going to try indicator-appmenu
[14:41] <Loki^> Gnea since my tty's arent working anymore, my power govenor to control cpu frequency at startup doesnt work anymore either
[14:41] <kamalesh1> Hey, how can i set a "slideshow as wallpaper"  ? Like the image will change every day or something.. ( Ubuntu 10.10)
[14:41] <Gnea> Loki^: alright, if you type in a terminal:  ls /etc/init/tty*  how many results occur?
[14:41] <raven> any tool to view logfiles?
[14:41] <schnuffle> Gnea: check for /etc/init/tty[1-7].conf
[14:41] <Loki^> Gnea even with sysfsutils nothing happens, its always on ondemand, never on powersave
[14:41] <Gnea> schnuffle: no, really?
[14:41] <Bushman> ikonia: the mouse IS linux compatible. The dongle also IS linux compatible. what now?
[14:41] <Loki^> > ls /etc/init/tty*
[14:41] <Loki^> /etc/init/tty1.conf  /etc/init/tty3.conf  /etc/init/tty5.conf
[14:41] <Loki^> /etc/init/tty2.conf  /etc/init/tty4.conf  /etc/init/tty6.conf
[14:41] <schnuffle> raven: you can use tail -f /logfilr
[14:41] <anonboots> Bushman, is it wireless?
[14:42] <raven> schnuffle, i mean something with highlighting
[14:42] <anonboots> I wasnt paying attention to you before.
[14:42] <kamalesh1>  Hey, how can i set a "slideshow as wallpaper"  ? Like the image will change every day or something.. ( Ubuntu 10.10)
[14:42] <leftist> i thought that libre was replacing open-office in future releases?
[14:42] <Guest87081> schnuffle,  thers a tool built in called log file viewer..u will find it in the system>administration menu
[14:42] <Loki^> seems alright Gnea
[14:42] <Bushman> anonboots: bluetooth
[14:42] <anant> @kamlesh1 i prefer webilder for this job
[14:42] <Gnea> Bushman: doesn't matter, is the laptop plugged into the WALL when the dongle dies?
[14:42] <anonboots> It most likely will not work.
[14:42] <Guest87081> u tool
[14:42] <Bushman> Gnea: yes
[14:42] <Gnea> Loki^: one sec
[14:42] <anonboots> Just return your items and use USB.
[14:42] <Gnea> Bushman: and does the dongle die when you plug it into another computer?
[14:42] <kamalesh1> anant:  hm, but ubuntu has that feature by default, it has a few sets
[14:42] <sacarlson> kamalesh1: I found this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/25549/how-to-create-a-wallpaper-slideshow-in-ubuntu/
[14:42] <kamalesh1> anant: I just want to know how to add new sets
[14:43] <anonboots> It is Windoes and Mac compatable. It isnt linux. Already went down that road.
[14:43] <kamalesh1> sacarlson: Thanks, checking :)
[14:43] <paradigmflow> sorry lads, can't get zoom to work, both enhanced or normal :$
[14:43] <Bushman> anonboots: it does works. just dies for unknown reason in random intervals. sometimes 10 seconds sometimes 10 minutes
[14:43] <anonboots> Yes. Exactly.
[14:43] <anonboots> As I said, I already went down that road.
[14:43] <anonboots> Return it, and get USB compatable mouse and keyboard and such.
[14:44] <Bushman> and i don't see how a remote device could kill dongle that works with other devices like mobile phone, headsets atc
[14:44] <Bushman> *etc
[14:44] <anonboots> Its the nature of the beast.
[14:44] <Gnea> Bushman: why can't you answer the question?
[14:44] <anonboots> Its just not lunix compatable.
[14:44] <anonboots> Ive already been down that road.
[14:45] <alle> hi everyone
[14:45] <Bushman> Gnea: only in ubuntu
[14:45] <Bushman> so yes
[14:45] <Bushman> i've tested it in other ubuntu of my friend
[14:45] <alle> i want some help on ubuntu installation issues
[14:45] <Bushman> does not happen in windows XP nor in Windows Mobile 6.0
[14:45] <bazhang> alle, then ask
[14:46] <anonboots> Thats because the hardware was developed for those OS systems.
[14:46] <Gnea> Bushman: perhaps you could furnish some relevent usb information from the lsusb command
[14:46] <anonboots> It was not developed for Ubuntu. While it may SORT OF work, it wont work all the time.
[14:46] <Gnea> Loki^: still looking...
[14:46] <anonboots> I had the same issue.
[14:46] <alle> i installed ubuntu 10.04 everything went like a charm during installation but at the end after completing installation when i press reset button of last dialogue window. cd ejected and a lot of errors was appeared and system halted there. i pressed ctrl+c after waiting almost 30min and it continued the reset process.
[14:46] <alle> i encounter no errors during booting. but a lot of files are missing.
[14:46] <alle> i tried re-installing 5 to 6 times but no luck. always same results.
[14:47] <ChaosR> hello, currently, every reboot my theme reverts to the default gnome theme (raleigh, and gnome icons), until I reset the theme back in appearance, logout and login, and repeat that a few times. Does anybody know why and how to get rid of it?
[14:47] <icarus-c> alle: did you check the CD prior to installation?
[14:47] <bazhang> alle, did you ever successfully startup after installation?
[14:47] <kamalesh1> alle: why dont you just install 10.10 now  ? :)
[14:47] <compdoc> alle, is it running at all right now?
[14:47] <Loki^> Gnea i googled myself alot, else i wouldnt be here.. but the only solution i found was to install a framebuffer, but i just want to have it like it was... i dont need the risk that my computer might not start up anymore
[14:47] <Gnea> Loki^: a framebuffer? what video card do you have?
[14:47] <alle> yes os is working fine other then that
[14:48] <Bushman> anonboots: the hardware is designed according to USB 2.0 and Bluetooth standards. also the mouse works as standard HID
[14:48] <Bushman> i see no reaso why it would die because of hardware
[14:48] <alle> i downloaded iso twice
[14:48] <anonboots> Bushman: I understand that. However, our distro isnt completely there yet, and some things just will not work.
[14:48] <xangua> !md5 | alle
[14:48] <bazhang> alle, md5 the iso? burn slowly? do the disk integrity check?
[14:49] <anonboots> Ive already researched your problem, and ultimately returned my hardware to the store and purchased hardware that will work.
[14:49] <Bushman> Gnea: any information you may wish is here: http://www.bushman.pl/attachments/enviroment.txt
[14:49] <Bushman> Gnea: including lsusb
[14:49] <rigved> elnur: hey. you can also try out LFS (Linux From Scratch). it teaches how to buid a Linux system from the ground up.
[14:49] <alle> i verify it now
[14:49] <Loki^> Gnea ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430
[14:49] <bazhang> alle, be sure to do all 3 steps
[14:49] <Bushman> anonboots: i installed LTS as it was suppose to be stable
[14:50] <Loki^> Gnea i use proprietary driver from ati homepage
[14:50] <bazhang> Bushman, its not ubuntu's issue
[14:50] <anonboots> It is stable. VERY stable, Bushman.
[14:50] <alle> which three steps bazhang
[14:50] <anonboots> Its just not compatable with EVERYTHING on the planet.
[14:50] <aeon-ltd> Bushman: relative to the normal releases though, keep thtat in mind
[14:50] <bazhang> alle, md5 the iso, burn slowly, do disk integrity check
[14:50] <alle> brun slowly?
[14:50] <anonboots> In future releases, you may find your hardware to work just fine.
[14:50] <elnur> rigved, it's a book, right?
[14:51] <bazhang> alle, burn the iso to cd at low speed
[14:51] <Bushman> anonboots: but it IS compatible with standard HID devices?
[14:51] <Bushman> like USB mouses and keyboards?
[14:51] <anonboots> But as of right now, in my experiences and from what I have tried, that hardware wont work correctly.
[14:51] <rigved> elnur: yes
[14:51] <sacarlson> alle: maybe it's a media problem,  if you can you should try install iso direct hard disk with a  grub2 entry http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[14:51] <alle> ya i did it slow speed
[14:51] <Gnea> Loki^: ah okay, that could be the problem.... did you just download and install the driver from ati's page or did you follow the ubuntu-method of installing it?
[14:51] <pksadiq> alle: or try to boot from CD and install to a usb drive and then boot from USB
[14:51] <elnur> rigved, good idea. thanks. i'll take a look at it. :)
[14:51] <leftist> yes jrib t hat fixed it :).
[14:51] <rigved> elnur: :)
[14:51] <leftist> thanks have to reboot brb
[14:51] <Bushman> anonboots: "that hardware" ?
[14:51] <Wipster_> ahha found my problem there is a bug in e2fsprogs 1.41.12 included on the 10.10 livecd which prevents me from repairing my ext4 boot partition, how can I pull a recent one and can this be flagged as an urgent apt-get update? 99% of people who encounter this will just reformat
[14:51] <bazhang> alle, then once the iso md5 is done, do again, and do disk integrity check once it has booted into cd
[14:51] <anonboots> Bushman: I have never had any issue with using a standard USB keyboard or mouse with any of the LTS Ubuntu releases.
[14:52] <anonboots> I have, however, ALWAYS had issues with random stopping and then working of bluetooth and wireless based keyboards and mice.
[14:52] <Gnea> Bushman: and you say that you never found any relevent information on this via google?
[14:52] <erUSUL> Wipster_: use an older livecd?
[14:52] <Bushman> Gnea: no?
[14:52] <Bushman> i didn't.
[14:53] <Bushman> that's all MY info
[14:53] <Bushman> i collected it
[14:53] <pksadiq> how to fix a USB flash drive messed up using cat /dev/null > /dev/sdc   :( my pendrive dead
[14:53] <Bushman> from my system
[14:53] <Bushman> pksadiq: tried gparted?
[14:53] <pksadiq> Bushman: not working
[14:53] <Gnea> Bushman: perhaps it's time you started utilizing that service
[14:54] <Bushman> pksadiq: fdisk?
[14:54] <Bushman> Gnea: "that service" ?
[14:54] <REKLAM> http://apps.facebook.com/publicim/
[14:54] <bazhang> REKLAM, thats offtopic dont paste here
[14:54] <sacarlson> pksadiq: can't you just use gparted and delete all partitions and reformat it?
[14:55] <Bushman> bazhang: "reklama" means "advertisement"
[14:55] <pksadiq> Bushman: e2fsck shows some error, and parted allows me to format but I could not mount
[14:55] <compdoc> alle, open system>administration>disk utility
[14:55] <REKLAM> apps.facebook.com/publicim/
[14:55] <Wipster_> erUSUL, where can I grab an older one?
[14:55] <Gnea> Loki^: can you pastebin the output of the /var/log/syslog file please?
[14:56] <alle> compdoc i m on windows rite now but you tell what to do
[14:56] <pksadiq> Bushman: and too I think there is some problem with firmware, do you know how to burn firmware to device in linux if I get the bin file?
[14:56] <erUSUL> Wipster_: ubuntu.com ? you can try with a rescue livecd like sysrescuecd or gparted livecd ( they are a smaller dwonload and to run fsck they are enough )
[14:56] <Bushman> pksadiq: gparted does not work or it can't handle the pendrive?
[14:56] <compdoc> alle, is windows on the same PC?
[14:56] <alle> md5 matched of my iso.
[14:56] <alle> yes but different drive
[14:57] <icarus-c> alle: try runnign disk integrity check
[14:57] <pksadiq> Bushman: I mean I need to rewrite the firmware
[14:57] <Bushman> Gnea: what did you mean by "start using that service" ?
[14:57] <Gnea> Bushman: are you on 32bit or 64it?
[14:57] <compdoc> cool. d/l hd tune from cnet.com
[14:57] <alle> how?
[14:57] <icarus-c> alle: that should be in live cd boot menu if i remmeber correctly
[14:57] <Bushman> pksadiq: what's the device?
[14:57] <alle> 32bit
[14:57] <Gnea> Bushman: irrelevent at this point.
[14:57] <Loki^> Gnea done
[14:57] <pksadiq> Bushman: usb pendrive
[14:57] <Gnea> Loki^: url?
[14:57] <Bushman> pksadiq: MP4 by chance?
[14:57] <Gnea> Loki^: url in the channel, please
[14:57] <compdoc> alle, download 'hd tune' from cnet.com
[14:57] <Loki^> Gnea query
[14:57] <Wipster_> erUSUL, thanks
[14:57] <Gnea> Loki^: no, in the channel, please.
[14:57] <Bushman> Gnea: i'm on 32 bit
[14:57] <Loki^> Gnea http://pastebin.com/fk5BxMPB
[14:57] <ikonia> Bushman: where did you get the inforamtion that the mouse and dongle are linux compatible
[14:58] <pksadiq> Bushman: no, simply a pendrive, I just need a tool to burn firmware
[14:58] <Bushman> ikonia: from the vendor's service department
[14:58] <Bushman> by phone
[14:58] <z41d4> hello.. i have a question about alsa. my mic works fine, is an usb mic. however, when I restart my computer the input devices changes to de front mic. how do I prevent that and keep my usb as default mic?
[14:58] <ikonia> Bushman: really, they just told me they offer no linux support or compatability
[14:58] <sacarlson> pksadiq: I had some counterfit usb pendrive (kingstone) that I had to do a low level config on to get them to partly work, it  only ran in windows
[14:58] <Bushman> in that case they lied to one of us
[14:58] <ikonia> Bushman: that's why I took so long responding, I was on the phone
[14:59] <alle> icarrus: live cd boot menu?
[14:59] <pksadiq> sacarlson: never a tool for linux ? :(
[14:59] <ikonia> Bushman: what where their support requirements
[14:59] <ikonia> Bushman: remember, I said if they said it was compatible, what where the requirements,
[14:59] <Gnea> Loki^: this looks odd: Feb  4 15:36:01 marvin kernel: [   26.093209] atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf7 on isa0060/serio0).
[14:59] <Cthulhuistka> please, give me a link for russian chat
[14:59] <pksadiq> sacarlson: that is where the only , I'm imposed to use windows
[14:59] <sacarlson> pksadiq: it was direct form the chip maker, they didn't have one for linux at that time
[14:59] <bazhang> Cthulhuistka, #ubuntu-ru
[15:00] <Gnea> Bushman: or they just didn't understand what you were asking for
[15:00] <alle> compdoc: ok downloaded hd tune
[15:00] <Bushman> ikonia: bluetooth 1.0 compatible reciver
[15:00] <sacarlson> pksadiq: I'm not saying that is your case,  do you even know what chips are in it?  lsusb?
[15:00] <ikonia> Bushman: no, that's not a Linux requirement
[15:00] <Loki^> Gnea i dont know sorry
[15:00] <ikonia> Bushman: what is the Linux requirement
[15:01] <Gnea> Loki^: are you on a laptop?
[15:01] <Bushman> ikonia: are you trying to prove i'm wrong?
[15:01] <Loki^> Gnea yes
[15:01] <Gnea> Bushman: stop that.
[15:01] <paytam> hey,is there any body who uses LXDE?
[15:01] <ikonia> Bushman: , no I'm asking you what the requirements are, as I told you to get
[15:01] <Bushman> i'm wrong. now help me to solve the problem.
[15:01] <Gnea> !attitude | Bushman
[15:01] <ikonia> Bushman: you're wrong? wrong about what
[15:01] <bazhang> paytam, whats the question
[15:01] <Gnea> Bushman: do NOT demand help.
[15:02] <paytam> @ bazhang: I can't chan my agekeyboard layout,however I install my languge
[15:02] <bazhang> paytam, using lxde and openbox? there are some other packages to install to help you configure that
[15:02] <compdoc> alle, install it too
[15:02] <Bushman> Gnea: right now i fee like i'm beaging for help
[15:02] <compdoc> and run it
[15:03] <Bushman> on my kneed
[15:03] <elnur> Why do ec2 kernels in ubuntu 10.04 have later versions than in ubuntu 10.10?
[15:03] <Bushman> *knees
[15:03] <alle> how can i perform cd intrigity check
[15:03] <bazhang> paytam, apt-cache search lxde to turn them up
[15:03] <aeon-ltd> !md5 | alle
[15:03] <bazhang> alle, once you have booted
[15:03] <Bushman> i can provide video feed of me beaging on my kneed if needed
[15:03] <paytam> bazhang, no just install lubuntu
[15:03] <alle> on window or nix?
[15:03] <Gnea> Bushman: and that is the incorrect way to do it.
[15:03] <Bushman> *knees
[15:03] <ikonia> Bushman: did the vendor say there is Linux support, yes or no
[15:03] <ikonia> Bushman: just yes or no answer only please
[15:03] <alle> ya bazhang
[15:03] <Bushman> ikonia: yes
[15:03] <Gnea> Bushman: kindly read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166376&page=2
[15:03] <compdoc> alle, run hd tune in windows
[15:03] <ikonia> Bushman: right, what are the linux requirements (I asked you to get them)
[15:04] <alle> done compdoc
[15:04] <Gnea> Bushman: there are, of course, more pages than just that
[15:04] <spow> I still need help with my driver please : I need to replace the tty of the uart_state (serial_core.h) by an up-to-date other vriable but I don't know which
[15:04] <kuuh> wenn ich das xfs dateisystem auf maximalegröße vergrößern will, muss ich dann außer xfs_growfs $mountpoint noch was machen?
[15:04] <tzang> is there any really good tutorials that you know of for installing dhcp service on my server?
[15:04] <aeon-ltd> !de | kuuh
[15:04] <Bushman> Gnea: but i don't have problems installing it? o_O
[15:04] <ikonia> Bushman: right, what are the linux requirements (I asked you to get them)
[15:04] <kuuh> aeon-ltd, sorry.. did realize it the mokment i hit enter
[15:04] <aeon-ltd> kuuh: ok
[15:04] <Gnea> Bushman: stop complaining and read the page, please.
[15:05] <kuuh> i was kinda sure i was at .de
[15:05] <Bushman> it is detected out of the boks and works like a charm with my mobile phone and headeset
[15:05] <Bushman> *box
[15:05] <alle> max 55.9 min 38.2
[15:05] <compdoc> alle, cool. select the drive you try to install ubuntu on, and the click the Health tab. Look for Reallocated Sector Count. In the Data column, is the number greater than zero?
[15:05] <paytam> bazhang: no I just install lubuntu distro
[15:05] <ikonia> Bushman: what are the Linux requriements from the Vendor
[15:05] <Gnea> Bushman: yes, you said that many times, once was enough. now move on.
[15:05] <bazhang> paytam, let me check the names of those packages
[15:05] <kuuh> nonetheless.. i want to grow my xfs filesystem to the maximum size, does a xfs_growfs $mountpoint do the trick or do I have to do something else
[15:05] <Loki^> Gnea i will restart my computer now, i'll tell you once im back
[15:05] <Bushman> ikonia: there are no requirements, even for windows or mac
[15:06] <Gnea> Loki^: okay
[15:06] <ikonia> Bushman: there are requirements for Linux, please ask for them
[15:06] <Bushman> a bluetooth 1.0 support is required
[15:06] <alle> 20 there
[15:06] <researcher1> I ant install Ubuntu 10.10 on my system which previosly had the same OS but after installing wiondows its not permitting installation
[15:06] <ikonia> Bushman: that is not a requirement for Linux, ask for the Linux requirements
[15:06] <compdoc> alle, thats bad. how about your other drives?
[15:06] <Gnea> Bushman: you're wasting time now, you should take the time to read that thread.
[15:06] <pksadiq> Bushman: paste the line in lsusb here , that says about your USB dongle
[15:06] <alle> 0 on that
[15:06] <compdoc> good
[15:06] <bazhang> lxde-settings-daemon paytam is that installed?
[15:07] <alle> what does that mean?
[15:07] <compdoc> alle, that drive with 20 bad sectors is dying
[15:07] <elnur> I use xen VDS hosting. Initially they've installed me ubuntu server 10.04 adapted for xen. I was getting upgrades to my ec2 kernels. But then 10.10 came out and I did dist upgrade. After that my ec2 kernel is not getting upgrades. Why is that so?
[15:07] <Bushman> ikonia: what do you want to hear? "kernel blah blah blah, 4gb of RAM and 10gb of HDD" ?
[15:07] <Bushman> the does not know
[15:07] <Bushman> *the guy does not know
[15:07] <ikonia> Bushman: a minimum / maximum kernel version would be a good start, yes. What the kernel module is
[15:07] <ikonia> Bushman: then there is no Linux support, they have to be able to provide the requirements
[15:08] <elnur> 10.04 has more updated versions of ec2 kernels (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ec2+linux&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all) than 10.10 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=maverick&searchon=names&keywords=ec2%20linux) Is there any logical reason behind this?
[15:08] <Bushman> ikonia: i just felt it. you were trying to prove it won't work insted of trying to find the solution
[15:09] <paytam> bazhang: no,was not install. I should install that package?
[15:09] <ikonia> Bushman: no, I'm trying to get the information as I've been asking you for 20 minutes
[15:09] <Bushman> ikonia: well. i'm very gratefull to you for doing that. thank you.
[15:09] <bazhang> paytam, yes
[15:09] <alle> thanx compdoc
[15:09] <Bushman> ikonia: i don't have and will never have those informations
[15:09] <pksadiq> Bushman: paste the one line in lsusb here , that says about your USB dongle
[15:09] <compdoc> alle, I would normally also run memtest86+ on a computer that I'm installing an OS on, but reallocated sectors is certainly a bad sign
[15:09] <Loki^> Gnea im back
[15:10] <Bushman> pksadiq: 10 seconds
[15:10] <Gnea> Loki^: what's the verdict?
[15:10] <bazhang> openbox-xdgmenu paytam is this installed also?
[15:10] <Loki^> Gnea i dont know what verdict is
[15:10] <ikonia> Bushman: then ask the vendor for that information
[15:10] <alle> ok i'll perform that 2
[15:10] <cv-fs609> hi
[15:10] <Gnea> Loki^: er, is the problem still there?
[15:10] <mne> Hi. On lucid I can't get my microphone to work under pulseaudio (and for that reason it does not work with skype either). Can you help ? The microphone works with alsa. I can record with arecord or audacity
[15:10] <Bushman> Bus 002 Device 043: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[15:10] <Loki^> Gnea yes
[15:11] <cakirturk> hi
[15:11] <cakirturk> hi all
[15:11] <cakirturk> selamlar :p
[15:11] <Bushman> pksadiq: is that it?
[15:11] <Gnea> Loki^: what is the output of this:  ps axf | grep upstart
[15:11] <paytam> bazhang: no, neither this or that
[15:11] <Bushman> ikonia: they don't have it either
[15:11] <pksadiq> Bushman: k, that's it
[15:11] <ikonia> Bushman: if they support linux, they do
[15:12] <mike> mike_
[15:12] <Loki^> Gnea i installed a framebuffer now it says error inserting uvesafb in tty1 but after that its still the blinking coursor.... i thought uvesafb was by default in kernel
[15:12] <Bushman> ok, the guy lied to me. it has no linux support. why does it work?
[15:12] <Bushman> ikonia: ?
[15:12] <ikonia> Bushman: what ?
[15:12] <lee__> how do i make gnome-panel transparent? when i set the background it doesn't make the icon or menu areas transparent.
[15:12] <Loki^> Gnea: > ps axf | grep upstart
[15:12] <Loki^>   366 ?        S      0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
[15:12] <Loki^>  1945 pts/0    S+     0:00              |               \_ grep --color=auto upstart
[15:12] <Bushman> and why does it crashes in random moments
[15:12] <elnur> mne, if it works with alsa, why don't you use alsa with skype?
[15:12] <ikonia> Bushman: you said the vendor says the device is linux compatible, they must know what the requirments are
[15:13] <ikonia> Bushman: the guy lied to you ? I doubt that,
[15:13] <ikonia> Bushman: get the information from the vendor
[15:13] <researcher1> how can voice chat be enabled in Empathy?
[15:13] <Bushman> i told you alredy, the don't know. the guy on the phone says he does not know
[15:13] <researcher1> ?join #empathy
[15:13] <Gnea> Loki^: okay, might want to remove the framebuffer for now
[15:13] <pksadiq> Bushman: search for "0a12:0001" and select the linux Bluetooth HOW TO and check if it does help you
[15:13] <pksadiq> Bushman: hope better to google
[15:13] <Loki^> Gnea ok
[15:13] <xangua> researcher1: better try gnome's irc network
[15:14] <researcher1> xangua: will it permit my yahoo id to work?
[15:14] <xangua> ¿¿
[15:14] <mne> elnur, skype doesn't give me a choice. The only playback or recoding devices I can choose is "pulse"
[15:14] <Bushman> pksadiq: will look into that. gime a minute or ten
[15:14] <Gnea> Bushman: what is the phone # of the vendor that you called? how long ago did you call?
[15:15] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1166376.html Bushman try what is suggested here
[15:15] <sacarlson> Bushman: look like they supported that for some time https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[15:15] <elnur> mne, i don't know whether this will solve your problem, but i have installed linux-backports-modules-alsa-maverick-generic(-pae) package back when i had some problems with microphone or sound from front panel. you might try it
[15:15] <Gnea> bazhang: that's the URL I gave him originally
[15:15] <lee__> nvm.. found it   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI4mpNvCu9o
[15:16] <bazhang> Gnea, sorry I missed that, I was on forums :)
[15:16] <elnur> mne, my microphone works nice with skype
[15:17] <mne> elnur, I'm on lucid, thus I guess this would be something like linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-... for me ?
[15:17] <elnur> mne, i mean, if you're using lucid, there should be a package for your version
[15:17] <Gnea> bazhang: haha that's okay, you're obviously not the only one that missed it ;)
[15:17] <bazhang> Gnea, true :)
[15:17] <elnur> mne, try searching with "linux alsa backports" and see what options you have
[15:17] <sacarlson> mne: seems skype will support alsa if it can't find pulse,  I have seen instrutions on how do disable pulse if needed to try it
[15:17] <mne> elnur, yep. found it
[15:17] <Loki^> Gnea i will restart again to see if its disabled
[15:17] <Gnea> Loki^: k
[15:17] <spow> what could go wrong if I replace a header in usr/src/linux-headers/include/linux by an older version of it ?
[15:18] <mne> sacarlson, but just for skype I do not want to uninstall pulseaudio or something
[15:18] <sacarlson> mne: no it had to be disabled for the entire session,  or untill you reinstalled pulse
[15:19] <elnur> mne, looking at my skype audio settings, i see that everything is set to pulseaudio. but it works. after installing that package and rebooting your system, check system audio settings — there will be more options
[15:19] <rigved> spow: of course you need to make sure that the new code of the header file that you replaced is not used anywhere
[15:19] <mne> sacarlson, hmm. what about temporarily disabling pulseaudio ? AFAIK there was something like pa-suspender ?
[15:19] <Bushman> pksadiq: i've looked into the HOWTO and they made the example based on exactly the same BT dongle as mine. i take that as "compatible with linux".
[15:19] <mne> elnur, cool, I'll try it
[15:19] <paytam> bazhang, I've installed both the packages, but nothing happened,what should I do now?
[15:19] <Loki^> Gnea framebuffer successfully disabled again, still no tty
[15:19] <Bushman> Gnea: do you speak polish?
[15:20] <bazhang> Bushman, I just gave you a link
[15:20] <sacarlson> mne: I"m not even sure pulse is your problem,  did you exast all other posible things?
[15:20] <Gnea> !pl | Bushman
[15:20] <Bushman> bazhang: sorry, let me read the back log
[15:20] <Gnea> Bushman: No.
[15:20] <spow> rigved it's the serial_core.h, I suppose it's not used much
[15:20] <bazhang> Bushman, the same link that Gnea gave you. please go through it and do what it suggests
[15:20] <spow> I need to replace the C file also I guess ?
[15:20] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1166376.html Bushman
[15:20] <elnur> How to check whether my system uses pulseaudio or alsa for sound workings?
[15:20] <pksadiq> Bushman: and so I think the problem is specific to your dongle, or your computer, everywhere it says it works, isn't it ?
[15:21] <bazhang> pksadiq, the problem is he's not listening to our suggested fixes
[15:21] <Bushman> Gnea: dude, you'r asking me for the phone number, but it's a polish number
[15:21] <PCdoc> when i try to load game flightgear, my system freezes
[15:21] <rigved> spow: just make sure that it is really not used on your system.
[15:21] <bazhang> Bushman, I just gave you the link again
[15:21] <Bushman> i'm not asking you to speak polish with me
[15:21] <mne> sacarlson, well, there are hundrets of things that could be the cause :P But ALSA is working, so I guess it must be a pulseaudio thing. The pulseaudio tools show the microphone input, but it's just silent all the time although it's not silent with ALSA
[15:21] <Bushman> bazhang: wait please
[15:21] <Bushman> need to read it first
[15:22] <Gnea> Bushman: why are you assuming that? I just asked what their phone # is. why can't you just give it to me?
[15:22] <paytam> bazhang: I've installed both the packages but nothing happened
[15:22] <Gnea> Bushman: maybe it's because you don't really have it?
[15:22] <mne> sacarlson, it would be so much easier if I could just switch to "ALSA" in skype.
[15:22] <juk> i love that guys voice at magnatune, 'if tired to hear my voice...'
[15:22] <pksadiq> bazhang: might be he does, who knows ;)
[15:22] <setuid> I've got gdm-2.20 installed, and it refuses to start up X... with this error:
[15:22] <Bushman> http://www.esperanza.pl/kontakt.php
[15:22] <setuid> gdm/:0.log:GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt8
[15:22] <Bushman> Gnea: here
[15:22] <setuid> Any idea how to fix it?
[15:23] <bazhang> Bushman, please go through that link and try what is suggested there
[15:23] <Kartagis> does ubuntu have an iPhone synchronizer?
[15:23] <sanmugam> bazhang: Hi, not yet i get a good application for video casting
[15:23] <Bushman> bazhang: yes, just wait please
[15:23] <setuid> Kartagis, funambol
[15:23] <Gnea> Bushman: thank you.
[15:23] <sanmugam> bazhang: Wink is also doesn't satisfies my need.
[15:24] <Gnea> !ati
[15:24] <Loki^> Gnea i disabled the framebuffer now, still no tty.. should i give up?
[15:24] <Kartagis> setuid can't be located
[15:24] <bazhang> sanmugam, no idea then sorry, the ones listed in !screencast work very well for me.
[15:24] <blue112> Hi here.
[15:24] <setuid> Kartagis, http://www.google.com/search?q=funambol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&lr=lang_en
[15:24] <ikonia> Bushman: please get me the phone number to verify it's the same one I called
[15:24] <sanmugam> bazhang: what is that?
[15:24] <purplefool> my mouse just died and i am trying to install a saitek m100v mouse but cannot find a driver for ubuntu and only a couple things work on it.  any ideas?
[15:24] <bazhang> !screencast | sanmugam these
[15:25] <blue112> When I turn on my ubuntu, it seems to have problem with a my TV card... It shows me a list of card prefixed with a number on a green screen, and it seems that I can't do anything... Can someone help ?
[15:25] <PCdoc> I get an error when I do ...
[15:25] <PCdoc>  glxinfo | grep direct
[15:25] <PCdoc> direct rendering: Yes
[15:25] <PCdoc> X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[15:25] <PCdoc>   Major opcode of failed request:  138 (XFree86-DRI)
[15:25] <PCdoc>   Minor opcode of failed request:  9 ()
[15:25] <FloodBot2> PCdoc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <Bushman> ikonia: i already did. it's on the page i gave URL to
[15:25] <ikonia> Bushman: I didn't see it, please put the page in here
[15:26] <ikonia> sorry, the number in here
[15:26] <Doonz> is there a built in network scanner in ubuntu through the cli
[15:26] <sanmugam> ubottu: ya but i need an application which having a feature of highliting the cursors, zooming particular area while recording like these...
[15:26] <Gnea> Loki^: no, did you follow the method for installing the driver here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[15:26] <Doonz> trying to trck down what static ip i assigned to my slingbox
[15:26] <Loki^> Gnea when i use "sudo start tty1" it works again, so something is wrong with the start up of tty's.. that would explain why my cpu control govenor doesnt start up too, somethings wrong with startup
[15:26] <MrUnagi> anyone know how to keep curl from overwriting files, and appending the filename instead?
[15:26] <PCdoc> any help with the  error i get ?
[15:26] <sanmugam> ubottu: gtk-recordmydesktop,xvidcamp,wink is a basic application.
[15:26] <Loki^> Gnea my driver is perfectly installed, direct rendering is working, 3d games work perfectly
[15:26] <Gnea> Loki^: right, it's not lining up correctly, I'm wondering if the method you used to install the ATI driver wasn't in line with that
[15:27] <juk> Doonz: assigned to what?
[15:27] <Bushman> Inc`: Tel: 22 721 35 71 wew. 10
[15:27] <Doonz> my slingbox
[15:27] <Bushman> argh...
[15:27] <Gnea> Loki^: I understand that, but now other things are broken when they shouldn't be
[15:27] <PCdoc> can anyone read me?
[15:27] <Bushman> ikonia: Tel: 22 721 35 71 wew. 10
[15:27] <ikonia> thanks
[15:27] <sacarlson> mne: I've never seen anyone use this but this looks easy enuf http://jechem.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu-1010.html
[15:27] <Loki^> Gnea i didnt change anything with my graphics driver, and it worked before with tty
[15:27] <Doonz> i use angry ip scnnaer in windows but im not home and need to do it through my ssh
[15:27] <bazhang> Bushman, still waiting
[15:28] <Doonz> would there be a way to do it using ping
[15:28] <juk> Doonz: i meant what a hell is slingbox
[15:28] <Gnea> Loki^: right, but you did a system upgrade - if you installed the driver using a non-ubuntu method, then the driver is going to cause problems when system upgrades occur
[15:28] <aja> #openmrs
[15:28] <Doonz> juk it streams my digital cable over the internet
[15:28] <noobster> good mourning all.
[15:28] <sanmugam> ubottu: ?
[15:28] <noobster> :0)
[15:28] <bazhang> sanmugam, ubottu is a bot
[15:28] <Gnea> Loki^: if the driver was installed using the ubuntu method, then this error would not occur
[15:28] <blue112> How can I show grub at startup ?
[15:28] <paytam> bazhang: I've install both the packages,Nothing happened
[15:28] <juk> Doonz: that sounds like english
[15:29] <Loki^> Gnea oh ok, anyway i did it exactly like posted in your link, i actually used that link before to install it
[15:29] <Gnea> Loki^: so what I'm asking you is, to go through and read that page and confirm that it's the method you used or not. if not, please let me know so we can fix it.
[15:29] <bazhang> paytam, not sure then sorry
[15:29] <xangua> blue112: keep Shift key pressed when you boot
[15:29] <Loki^> i made ubuntu .deb packets from the official driver and installed them like explained @ Gnea
[15:29] <Gnea> Loki^: alright
[15:29] <blue112> xangua, it does not show grub menu...
[15:29] <lee__> dany tilda users?
[15:29] <blue112> I've just tried;
[15:29] <sanmugam> bazhang: sorry i cant understand
[15:30] <Gnea> Loki^: try this: follow those directions again, make a new package, and install that
[15:30] <noobster> I woke up today and our server has an error I have never seen before. I get a ureadahead-other terminated with status 4.. Never have I seen this error. I am using ubuntu server 10.04.1LTS
[15:30] <sacarlson> blue112: did you install with wubi installer from windows?
[15:30] <Loki^> Gnea ok i will
[15:30] <noobster> please help
[15:30] <blue112> sacarlson, no.
[15:30] <blue112> it's a clean single boot ubuntu.
[15:30] <Bushman> bazhang: i'm sorry. i don't see any sugestion helping me out here
[15:30] <blue112> I've updated my kernel and now it's not booting anymore, I'd like to restore old kernel, so I should access to grub.
[15:31] <Bushman> bazhang: this guy seemed to have some problem with the dongle from mechanical side and also missing bt icon in tray
[15:31] <sacarlson> blue112: well there is a package startup-manager that will let you make the delay longer and enable text at boot and more
[15:31] <bazhang> Bushman, you need to read more carefully then
[15:31] <Bushman> bazhang: i don't have such problems. it works out of the box. it is PnP detected and installed by ubuntu
[15:32] <blue112> sacarlson, actually I can't boot, so I'm not able to install it
[15:32] <chrislustic> hi all
[15:32] <Bushman> just dies when paired with BT mouse and used for some times
[15:32] <gribouille> hi
[15:32] <xangua> blue112: tried what i said¿
[15:32] <Bushman> bazhang: i will read it more then.
[15:32] <appleseed> After RAM and GFX upgrade, I installed FGLRX on lucid, at end of install I am stuck at "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic", when I sudo dpkg --configure -a, it gets stuck at exactly the same point, so I am unable to reinstall even initramfs-tools to fix the problem, please any ideas?
[15:32] <PCdoc> I have this error when i run glxinfo | grep direct http://pastebin.com/aYj0PQ1m
[15:32] <PCdoc> plz help
[15:32] <chrislustic> when I go to update ubuntu 10.10.   it says.. waiting for "jockey-backend" to exit
[15:32] <blue112> xangua, already say, it doesn't work.
[15:32] <chrislustic> it just waits forever
[15:32] <sacarlson> blue112: well then you will need to boot from another media like cd or usb or other and reload grub2 mbr
[15:32] <chrislustic> and I cant update any other way it see,s.
[15:32] <Loki^> Gnea should i overwrite it or delete the old driver first?
[15:32] <juk> Doonz: ping is to check if machine is up and willing to play
[15:33] <blue112> sacarlson, I have grub, but Ubuntu kind of kernel panic on boot... It's not a grub related problem.
[15:33] <Gnea> Loki^: pick one and see what happens
[15:33] <paytam> is there any one who uses the LXDE?
[15:33] <sanmugam> Well in which channel i can get more details of screen casting application?
[15:33] <juk> paytam: probably in #lxde
[15:33] <gribouille> before upgrading kde, when I plugged my external HD, it was mounted under /media/disk. know, it is mounted under /media/<UUID>. what does that mean ?
[15:33] <sacarlson> blue112: if you can't hold the shift key to get to the grub2 menu then I'm not sure what else you can do
[15:34] <PCdoc> lol .. who is helping whom ??? my questions remain unanswered
[15:34] <lee__> !who
[15:34] <paytam> juk: I can not change the keyboard layout
[15:34] <PCdoc> I have this error when i run glxinfo | grep direct http://pastebin.com/aYj0PQ1m
[15:34] <codemagician> is there a way to grab a window-shot (not the whole screen just the current window in focus) ?
[15:34] <blue112> Sounds boring... Why did this kernel upgrade...
[15:35] <codemagician> PrntScrn grabs the whole screen
[15:35] <juk> paytam: im sorry?
[15:35] <sacarlson> blue112: because you let it,  I feel if it's not broke don't fix it.  I never upgrade unless needed
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> codemagician, Application / Accessories / Take Screenshot - "Grub the current window"
[15:35]  * PCdoc *yawns*
[15:35] <Bushman> bazhang: it's a long thread. is there anything in particular you are trying to gain my attention to?
[15:36] <blue112> sacarlson, I've just applied "security upgrade"
[15:36] <Bushman> s/gain/draw
[15:36] <blue112> It's not supposed to crash my whole computer
[15:36] <setuid> Can someone help me with this? WARNING: gdm_server_spawn: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt8
[15:36] <paytam> juk: I can not change the keyboard layout
[15:36] <juk> paytam: omg i didn't touch
[15:36] <sacarlson> blue112: normaly if a kernel is added and it breaks something you can just set the old kernel to boot from grub2 the way it was
[15:37] <Bushman> bazhang: they have issues that i'm not experiencing. besides they were using U8.xx
[15:37] <blue112> sacarlson, but I can't access grub
[15:37] <cylob> if i want a dualboot system with windows and ubuntu, which os do i have to install first?
[15:37] <sacarlson> blue112: you can from a cd or usb
[15:37] <juk> paytam: i didn't touch you keyboard
[15:37] <ZykoticK9> cylob, windows!
[15:37] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455877 paytam please have a read
[15:37] <me4oslav> cylob windows first
[15:37] <blue112> sacarlson, it's booting on the ubuntu livecd... What should I do next ? grub-install ?
[15:37] <cylob> ok, gotcha. im assuming its easy from there then.
[15:38] <cylob> the ubuntu installer will ask if i want to do a dualboot thing?
[15:38] <me4oslav> mhm not hard at all,just install ubuntu boot at the main ahrd drive
[15:38] <me4oslav> hard* dive
[15:38] <ZykoticK9> cylob, the installer calls it "install along side" or something similar ya
[15:38] <cylob> well i only have 1 hard drive
[15:38] <cylob> cool. thanks.
[15:38] <timmillwood> Anyone use a software Raid 1? is it worth it?
[15:38] <PCdoc> can i expect a help here ?
[15:39] <bazhang> PCdoc, with what
[15:39] <PCdoc> I have this error when i run glxinfo | grep direct http://pastebin.com/aYj0PQ1m
[15:39] <Loki^> Gnea btw how is it possible that the graphic driver can disable the startup of tty and other programs like my cpu govenor?
[15:39] <bazhang> PCdoc, for compiz?
[15:39] <Bushman> bazhang: ?
[15:39] <bazhang> Bushman, yes?
[15:40] <Gnea> Loki^: I'm not sure, I use nvidia and intel, not ati
[15:40] <Bushman> bazhang: just making sure you got my messages?
[15:40] <PCdoc> bazhang: includes compiz ... using openchrome driver for my via K8M800-CE chipset
[15:40] <blaa> What is the right way to prevent mysql starting with the system?
[15:41] <bazhang> Bushman, sorry I've been a bit busy, that device has been around an d in use since Hardy at least, I'd recheck the steps you taken to get it working; many have reported success.
[15:41] <PCdoc> actually, i was tryin to configure xorg.conf so that i can play flightgear game using ubuntu 10.10
[15:41] <sacarlson> blue112:  you might try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/562593/
[15:41] <Gnea> blaa: sudo update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[15:41] <Loki^> Gnea i meant in general, shouldnt that be impossible? :/
[15:41] <Gnea> Loki^: like I said, I've never had this problem
[15:41] <blaa> Gnea this will keep the mysql start script if I want to start mysql manually?
[15:41] <Bushman> bazhang: ok, re-checking: insert dongle into USB port - checked!
[15:41] <Bushman> done.
[15:41] <Gnea> blaa: correct.
[15:42] <bazhang> PCdoc, what driver do you have for that card? I'm not sure that it does 3D or is supported for 3D very well
[15:42] <blaa> Gnea thank you =)
[15:42] <Gnea> blaa: cheers :)
[15:42] <Bushman> bazhang: all i did was to plug it in
[15:42] <PCdoc> bazhang: m using openchrome rite now
[15:42] <me4oslav> openchrome? chromium right?
[15:43] <PCdoc> bazhang: but m able to play openarena game smoothly, and can see 3D objects in that game
[15:43] <bazhang> Bushman, no idea then; there are a ton of posts on the forums to get it working. one of which I provided to you. just pluggin it in is not a sufficient checklist fyi
[15:43] <Bushman> bazhang: the dongle itself is operatinal and does not dies on it's own or while connected to mobiles phone and serving as an internet link
[15:43] <Bushman> bazhang: but it DOES WORK!!!
[15:43] <blue112> sacarlson, how can I force it to show menu at boot time ?
[15:43] <Bushman> i'm saying that from the start
[15:43] <precubcr> please i need help how can a get my Intel GMA to have a bigger resolution ? i cant get more than 800X600
[15:44] <bazhang> Bushman, then be patient, repost every 15 mins or so, while you wait browse the ubuntuforums for solutions.
[15:44] <Bushman> bazhang: it works with preaty much everything!
[15:44] <Compositor> cheesburgers in elky-paradise.
[15:44] <Compositor> whoops i mean um
[15:44] <sacarlson> blue112: hold the left shift key through boot sequence
[15:44] <bazhang> Compositor, pardon?
[15:44] <Compositor> anyone know why the newest updates messed with the vm guest
[15:44] <PCdoc> bazhang: :-s
[15:44] <Bushman> bazhang: what sould i ask for then?
[15:44] <Compositor> the resolution is significantly shrunk
[15:44] <sacarlson> blue112: if that fails again then you will have to find out what file in grub to modify to increase the delay at boot
[15:44] <precubcr> Compositor it is
[15:45] <precubcr> what can i do ?
[15:45] <Compositor> this wasn't pre-update issue
[15:45] <precubcr> i almost can`t see
[15:45] <precubcr> no
[15:45] <Gnea> Bushman: you appear to be repeating the same thing over and over again, hoping for something to change, and yet nothing does.
[15:45] <Guest87081> elnur, system>preferences>sound>then click the applications tab
[15:46] <Bushman> bazhang: people are trying to help me install what's installed, over and over.
[15:46] <bazhang> Bushman, as I have said, please be patient, repeat every 15-20 minutes, and check other sources whil you wait
[15:46] <Chelsea> Hi all, is there a way to copy stuff to the global clipboard by commandline?
[15:46] <Bushman> bazhang: did i mention i ask atleast twice a day for last few weeks?
[15:46] <Gnea> Bushman: perhaps if you used resources properly instead of asking for people to solve the problem for you, it wouldn't be so bad.
[15:46] <bazhang> !helpme | Bushman
[15:46] <Loki^> Gnea finished, nothing changed
[15:47] <elnur> Guest87081, it's empty in there
[15:47] <blue112> sacarlson, ok.
[15:47] <Gnea> Loki^: okay, did you delete or overwrite?
[15:47] <Bushman> Gnea: what resources?
[15:47] <Loki^> Gnea overwrite
[15:47] <Gnea> Loki^: try to delete this time.
[15:47] <Gnea> Bushman: don't you know how to use google.com? or ubuntuforums.org?
[15:47] <Bushman> !repeat
[15:48] <Gnea> Bushman: SEARCH for this stuff, FIND what other people have done
[15:48] <Loki^> Gnea im scared my X wont startup anymore, had this plenty of times already but tty saved me most of the times... now without tty i dont dare
[15:48] <researcher1> once I had Ubuntu.Then it stopped working after unattended update.then I installed XP.Now trying to install Ubuntu but PC hangs forever
[15:48] <Bushman> Gnea: like i didn't
[15:48] <Jon--> Please tell me I didn't just break my boot loader... I messed up doing burg-install.. http://pastebin.com/HazjXCQM
[15:48] <WierdAAR> Hi guys. I don't think I have the correct video driver installed, but have no idea, how to find what driver I need, and how to install it. Please help
[15:48] <Gnea> Bushman: you've made it abundantly clear that you have not.
[15:48] <PCdoc> ubuntuforums?? i have tried them several times, even posted my question there but hardly got any replies. got one reply after like 1-2 months :-s
[15:48] <Bushman> i've spent few days on google and Ubuntu forum before coming here
[15:49] <Gnea> Bushman: I doubt that.
[15:49] <Bushman> you doubt everything i say
[15:49] <Gnea> Bushman: have you made a post to ubuntuforums.org outlining the problem?
[15:49] <Bushman> yes i did
[15:49] <Bushman> want to read it?
[15:49] <Gnea> what is the URL?
[15:49] <sacarlson> blue112: oh I had a thought maybe you have a usb keyboard?  if so make sure your bios is setup to support usb keyboards at boot
[15:49] <Gnea> Yes, please.
[15:49] <Bushman> wait, let me find it
[15:49] <grendal_prime> whos good with rsync?
[15:49] <PCdoc> Bushman: same hre .. and m self-learner ... u can see from my nick :P i tried several hit n trial myself :P
[15:49] <Gnea> Bushman: and why didn't you post that URL in the first place?
[15:49] <bazhang> grendal_prime, please ask the channel
[15:49] <compdoc> grendal_prime, I use it <shrug>
[15:50] <PCdoc> compdoc: stole my name :(
[15:50] <compdoc> ha!
[15:50] <grendal_prime> compdoc, i want to use it to MOVE some stuff as opposed to sync it..
[15:50] <Bushman> Gnea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668076
[15:50] <grendal_prime> so sync some things but then delete them from the source after syncing
[15:51] <PCdoc> Bushman: can u re-post ur question plz ?
[15:51] <compdoc> grendal_prime, Im pretty sure it has the option to delete the srouce files after syncing
[15:51] <compdoc> source
[15:51] <Loki^> Gnea do you, or anyone else here, know any other way how to see why tty and other programs wont startup with the system?
[15:51] <Bushman> Gnea: why? because i've posted other URL describing the problem
[15:51] <grendal_prime> i thought so to
[15:51] <grendal_prime> just touching base though.
[15:51] <Jon--> Please tell me I didn't just break my boot loader... I messed up doing burg-install.. http://pastebin.com/HazjXCQM   Please help.
[15:51] <Abhinav1> Is there any guy for wintermute project?
[15:51] <Bushman> PCdoc: yes, it's in the URL few lines up there
[15:51] <PCdoc> ok
[15:51] <bazhang> Abhinav1, what is that
[15:51] <bazhang> Abhinav1, related to ubuntu?
[15:52] <grendal_prime> hey compdoc do you use a daemoised setup?
[15:52] <Jon--> Please tell me I didn't just break my boot loader... I messed up doing burg-install.. http://pastebin.com/HazjXCQM   Please help I have to reboot my laptop soon and if I broke my boot loader I need to know.
[15:52] <rany27> Can't get same page source with 'View->page source' and with lynx -source "$link" , Any ideas?
[15:52] <Gnea> Bushman: That's not good enough. You can here, to the #ubuntu channel, asking for help on Ubuntu. The Ubuntu forums are an extension of this place, as this place is an extension of the forums.  Posting from outside of that realm defeats the purpose, plus you've already linked to that site from the forum posting AND you've ignored the help that's been provided there.
[15:52] <Abhinav1> bazhang: yep
[15:52] <bazhang> Jon--, burg? why not grub2
[15:52] <bazhang> Abhinav1, whats the connection
[15:53] <Jon--> bazhang: burg is on top of grub2
[15:53] <bc81> please help me remount an nfs share at boot.  i can mount it from the command line with, "sudo mount 192.168.1.xx:/home/server/share /home/client/share
[15:53] <bc81> " just fine.  but at boot, it won't mount!?  this is the fstab entry, "<IP_ADDRESS>/home/moocher/linshare  /home/bc81/linshare  nfs rsize=1024,wsize=1024,noauto 0 0" do i need to add some // or \\?
[15:53] <bazhang> Jon--, burg is 3rd party?
[15:53] <Jon--> bazhang: well, sort of. I have grub2 installed.
[15:53] <Gnea> Bushman: Since you've failed to heed the advice given there, I see no reason to attempt to help you here any further.
[15:53] <Jon--> bazhang: I am surprised you've never heard of it.
[15:53] <bazhang> Jon--, its 3rd party?
[15:53] <Abhinav1> bazhang: : http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2011%2F02%2Fwintermute-project-aims-to-bring-artificial-intelligence-to-ubuntu%2F%3Futm_source%3Dfeedburner%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter%26utm_campaign%3DFeed%253A%2Bd0od%2B(Omg!%2BUbuntu!)&rct=j&q=wintermute%20ubuntu&ei=AyFMTaTAKoX5rQfV6v3ZBg&usg=AFQjCNFa-xVP1UomuTaOeYFaNa_ctTnKEw&sig2=OP-7rrGCX6roIzJmW57Skg&cad=rja
[15:53] <Bushman> Gnea: i did what?
[15:54] <PCdoc> Bushman: hmm never used a bluetooth device with my comp ... so dun even know how does the BT interface luk like
[15:54] <Bushman> what advide?
[15:54] <Jon--> bazhang: define third party?
[15:54] <bazhang> Jon--, not in UBUNTU repos = 3rd party
[15:54] <Gnea> Loki^: well, that's why I recommended the syslog, that's where all of the error messages go
[15:54] <Gnea> Loki^: it's just a weird problem
[15:54] <Bushman> *advice
[15:54] <Jon--> bazhang: It's in the repos.
[15:54] <bazhang> !find burg
[15:54] <Jon--> bazhang: I believe it is, anyway. I don't recall.
[15:55] <Gnea> Bushman: "No, i haven't enabled any bluetooth timers. It happens in random intervals. Some times 10 seconds, some times 5 minutes."
[15:55] <bazhang> Jon--, whats the package name
[15:55] <PCdoc> Gnea: can u help with my problem?
[15:55] <Gnea> Bushman: you didn't try any timers, therefore you ignored it.
[15:55] <sekai> what's the diference of burg and grub2
[15:55] <djindy> I need to revert back to an older kernel version than I currently have stored on my machine (back to 2.6.34-*) on Ubuntu 10.10. I found a resource here http://thanhsiang.org/faqing/node/129 detailing how to do it back with 9.04. Will this method still work/is it safe?
[15:55] <precubcr> join #backtrack-linux
[15:55] <Gnea> PCdoc: probably not.
[15:55] <Guest87081> elnur, im sorry can u repeat ur question again...lost it
[15:55] <McPels> hi
[15:55] <bazhang> Jon--, so 3rd party not an ubuntu issue, fix grub2
[15:55] <Bushman> Gnea: dude, i though he mean auto-disable timers
[15:55] <Jon--> bazhang: That's why I fucking came here for help.
[15:56] <Bushman> i didn't ignored it, i answered to it
[15:56] <Gnea> Bushman: then you should have asked to clarify.
[15:56] <Jon--> bazhang: In case grub 2 was broken.
[15:56] <bazhang> Jon--, watch the language
[15:56] <PCdoc> looks like ppl better like to stay out of any problems regarding via chipsets running on ubuntu :-s
[15:56] <Bushman> Gnea: well, it was clear to me
[15:56] <Gnea> Bushman: no, you ignored it. you didn't even try to setup a timer of any sort.
[15:56] <elnur> Guest87081, i don't even remember my question. maybe you mistaken me with someone else :)
[15:56] <Bushman> Gnea: what sort of a timer should i try then?
[15:56] <Gnea> Bushman: why don't you ask the person that made the suggestion?
[15:56] <Jon--> Please tell me I didn't just break my boot loader... I messed up doing burg-install.. http://pastebin.com/HazjXCQM   Please help I have to reboot my laptop soon and if I broke my boot loader I need to know
[15:57] <Loki^> Gnea i understand, but isnt there a file defining all system startups? or something
[15:57] <McPels> recently when i wanna install new software in software center, instead of showing the Installation  process, it shows me "Applying Changes" but this applying never ends.
[15:57] <McPels> what should i do?
[15:57] <Gnea> Loki^: well that's what upstart does... is there something like a /var/log/upstart?
[15:57] <Bushman> Gnea: "Have you somehow enabled an temporary bluetooth connection to stay up for some 10 mins or so?"
[15:57] <Bushman> Gnea: answer "no"
[15:58] <Gnea> Bushman: THEN why didn't you say NO?
[15:58] <milamber> Jon--: the error messages indicate that you didn't break it. two warnings and an error w/ no initializing or exiting. you should be ok.
[15:58] <Bushman> Gnea: i didn't ignored it
[15:58] <Jon--> milamber: Thank you.
[15:58] <Bushman> gawdf!
[15:58] <Bushman> D
[15:58] <Loki^> Gnea there is boot and boot.log
[15:58] <Gnea> Bushman: No, you ignored it because you didn't TRY
[15:58] <Gnea> Bushman: someone gave you advice, you didn't try to follow it. that's the SAME as ignoring it.
[15:58] <McPels> no one answers me?
[15:58] <Bushman> Gnea: if you'r trying to drive me crazy, you'r doing great
[15:59] <Gnea> Loki^: could you pastebin those please?
[15:59] <Gnea> Bushman: no, I'm trying to help you see the light so that you can properly solve this problem.
[15:59] <McPels> recently when i wanna install new software in software center, instead of showing the Installation  process, it shows me "Applying Changes" but this applying never ends.
[15:59] <Loki^> Gnea: boot is empty, boot.log only says init: ureadahead-other main process (854) terminated with status 4
[15:59] <Bushman> Gnea: the first word in my reply was "no"
[15:59] <Bushman> Gnea: go read it again
[15:59] <sacarlson> blue112: I found the file that has the timout /etc/default/grub  in line with: GRUB_TIMEOUT=10   10 being the timout in secouds,  if that is already set at 10 secounds it must be a keyboard problem
[15:59] <Gnea> Bushman: if you're going crazy, then good. but if you insist on not changing your approach to solving the problem and not following advice, then there is no hope for you.
[15:59] <Bushman> and give me a break. i didn't ignored him
[16:00] <codemagician> is there a keyboard shortcut to take a screenshot of a window?
[16:00] <bazhang> Gnea, lets move on
[16:00] <bazhang> Bushman, see your PM
[16:00] <Gnea> Bushman: yes, and then you said "I haven't enabled any timers"
[16:00] <Encry9> Hi, when I install something sometimes the display goes crazy or someting & donno how to get it back to normal,I think it's when Ubuntu-Desktop gets uninstalled
[16:00] <milamber> codemagician: prntscrn
[16:00] <codemagician> milamber, for a single window
[16:00] <Gnea> Bushman: by not enabling any timers, you haven't tried.
[16:00] <codemagician> milamber, prntscrn gives me the whole shabang?
[16:01] <PCdoc> Gnea: by that person's question, i too assumed that he meant, whether the timers were set becoz of which the bluetooth was dying out after some time ... :)
[16:01] <milamber> codemagician: alt + prntscrn
[16:01] <PCdoc> he didnt say "try setting timers"
[16:01] <PCdoc> :P
[16:01] <mneptok> Bushman: see if the same pointing device works with another machine's Bluetooth connection. then try another mouse with the Ubuntu machine. see what happens.
[16:02] <Abhinav1> !find wintermute
[16:02] <Gnea> PCdoc: He asked if the timers had been set yet or not, which assumes "well, if they haven't been set, then set them already!"
[16:02] <yellabs-r2> hi there , how can i get vsftpd to play nice? cant get it to be able to ftp files into the ftp ..
[16:02] <McPels> tpt: recently when i wanna install new software in software center, instead of showing the Installation  process, it shows me "Applying Changes" but this applying never ends.
[16:02] <Bushman> Gnea: i will try to say that as calm as i can: he asked about "disabling" timers. they are turned OFF. i didn't set them ON and i don't NEED to turn them ON cause i want my BT dongle to work 24/7. is that clear enough?
[16:02] <mneptok> Gnea: i'm not reading it like that at all.
[16:03] <McPels> tpt: what should i do?
[16:03] <yellabs-r2> i need an easy ftp server
[16:03] <PCdoc> Bushman: i agree
[16:03] <bazhang> Abhinav1, there is not a wintermute in ubuntu repos
[16:03] <WierdAAR> How do I find and install a driver for Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device ?
[16:03] <SoftarPaul> I can't find mysqld.sock in /var/run/mysqld. The directory is empty.
[16:03] <yellabs-r2> vsftpd , but i cant get it to work like it should
[16:03] <yellabs-r2> tips are welcome
[16:03] <mneptok> yellabs-r2: why FTP and not SFTP?
[16:03] <Gnea> Bushman: Now, I will tell you: since you didn't turn them on, that means you didn't even try to do what was suggested, you assumed that turning the timers on would make things worse, not better, without even trying to see if they would or not.
[16:03] <mneptok> Gnea: please let it drop.
[16:04] <mneptok> Bushman: you, too.
[16:04] <yellabs-r2> sftp ? you mean secure ?
[16:04] <me4oslav> weirdar it comes installed with Ubuntu
[16:04] <PCdoc> dun think m gonna get help when ppl are building controversies *assuming* stuff :-s
[16:04] <Gnea> mneptok: if he tries to talk to me again he's going on /ignore
[16:04] <mneptok> yellabs-r2: yes. FTP over SSH.
[16:04] <codemagician> milamber, alt + prtnscreen does nothing... :-/
[16:04] <mneptok> Gnea: prolly a wise idea at this point.
[16:04] <SoftarPaul> does anyone know how to create mysqld.sock? Or get a new file
[16:04] <WierdAAR> me4oslav, Oh ok.. Then the error much be something else. Thank you
[16:04] <sekai> how install sftp
[16:04] <sekai> as
[16:05] <sekai> sudo apt-get install sftp ?
[16:05] <mneptok> sekai: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:05] <Gnea> Bushman: So pretty please, with sugar on top, turn the timers on and see what happens.
[16:05] <Abhinav1> Is irc.ubuntu.org is different server for help or same as it?
[16:05] <milamber> codemagician: what version of ubuntu? are you using a laptop? (i just tried it (to confirm) on 10.04 and it is working here)
[16:06] <Pici> Abhinav1: Thats gets you here, to freenode.
[16:06] <bazhang> Abhinav1, its freenode
[16:06] <codemagician> milamber, desktop 10.10
[16:06] <Abhinav1> Pici: thanks
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[16:07] <codemagician> milamber, did yours map to this combination out the box?
[16:07] <djindy> Will Ubuntu 10.10 work with kernel 2.6.34-*?
[16:07] <codemagician> milamber, is was that a thing you configured
[16:07] <teicah> must I compile "firmware" into a new kernel for a single user desktop system?
[16:07] <milamber> codemagician: no, it's supposed to work out of the box. see: http://www.virtualhelp.me/linux/212-altprint-screen-not-working-ubuntu-1010
[16:07] <codemagician> milamber, thanks
[16:07] <codemagician> milamber, i'll check it out
[16:08] <Bushman> Gnea: i see no timers to be set except "temporary visible" wich is manual enabled and set to 1 minute. not in action when my mouse is detected and paired and operating.
[16:08] <sacarlson> teicah: firmware is sometimes used in wifi and maybe other things,  do you use wifi in this desktop system?
[16:09] <Bushman> Gnea: there's no timer to i am aware of that will disable BT compleetly
[16:09] <teicah> sacarlson: 10x.  No, I don't use wifi.. It is a wired connection
[16:09] <codemagician> will running  sysctl -w kernel.sysrq=0 to fix the alt + prnt screen cause any issues?
[16:09] <teicah> sacarlson: would I need firmware compiled if I plan on installing radeon proprietary drivers?
[16:10] <Bushman> Gnea: and since we'r on the thing. the dongle is acting like it was "re-pluged" into the system, not disabled.
[16:10] <sacarlson> teicah: well it takes not much space or time to compile so I think I would keep it in the event you test a usb wifi dongle with it some day
[16:11] <codemagician> milamber, it worked fine thanks
[16:11] <sacarlson> teicah: what would it hurt if you did compile the firmware?
[16:12] <teicah> dunno..
[16:12] <tkubacki> is there any default log for failed service startup from  /etc/init.d/service_name?
[16:12] <sacarlson> teicah: I guess worst case you can delete the firmware files after you compile if it breaks something
[16:12] <teicah> I guess I just want it as lean as possible
[16:13] <teicah> I see.  Thanks for your time
[16:13] <Caffeine> Quick question here... I'm trying to use the "Ubuntu Software Center" as much as possible, since I guess it's the standard way of installing stuff nowadays.. but, for example, now I want to install the "subversion" package. Is it 300% ok with the system to use aptitude? or will it break stuff? I hate breaking my system, obviously.
[16:14] <sacarlson> teicah: and for me it takes hours to compile so I turn lots of stuf on so I don't have to do it again
[16:14] <teicah> sacarlson: Let me ask you one more question.  What is your media player of preference?
[16:14] <Bushman> [PROBLEM] Bluetooth dongle dies every few minutes only when using BT mouse http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668076
[16:15] <Gnea> Bushman: Good.
[16:15] <teicah> "hours to compile"?  Do you have a single processor system?
[16:15] <sacarlson> teicah: totem seems to come up as default so that's what I normaly use
[16:15] <sacarlson> teicah: no it's dual core but old
[16:16] <Bushman> donno what do you mean by "good" but i'll just pretend you missclicked my nickname -_-'
[16:16] <Gnea> You are free to believe what you want to believe, even if it's wrong. :)
[16:16] <sacarlson> teicah: maybe I count the time it takes to download the source also
[16:17] <teicah> ouch
[16:17] <teicah> !
[16:17] <sacarlson> teicah: put it this way it takes long enuf for me to leave so I"m not sure how long it takes
[16:17] <Rob235> does the fixed gp work in a vm environment?
[16:18] <trond-> room: Everytime I am upgrading from one version to another I have decided to do a clean install - that after I have noticed that not all works as good when upgrading. How is upgrading working in ubuntu now? Are there things that I should consider when doing the upgrade. I have home on a separate partition. will that give me grief?
[16:18] <bazhang> trond-, both are fine
[16:19] <teicah> I remember those days.  I would download the ubuntu iso with dialup.. I took 25 hours!  Now w/comcast about 20mins
[16:19] <bazhang> trond-, separate home is a very good idea as well
[16:19] <jolly_xen> hey all, Q: I editted /etc/networks/interfaces to change to static instead of dhcp. if issue "ifup eth0" it works perfect, but if i reboot eth0 is not brought up. Again after reboot if i type ifup eth0 all is good
[16:19] <sacarlson> teicah: even at 20 mins I'm not going to sit there waiting for it
[16:19] <jolly_xen> what script call ifup at boot time
[16:19] <trond-> bazhang, I know :) (even put my mysql-database stuff on that partition)
[16:20] <teicah> that's when totem comes in handy
[16:20] <g_0_0> jolly_xen, add auto eth0 to file
[16:20] <jolly_xen> ah, i guess i deleted that when editing static settign is, cheers
[16:21] <Bushman> [PROBLEM] Bluetooth dongle dies every few minutes only when using BT mouse http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668076