[18:29] <azizLIGHTS> nameless`: i just did the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb command, and then disconnected the hdd when it finished, rebooted, and had the drive conencted and powered on and these messages started coming up
[18:29] <HelloWorld321> are .eml files binary, or are they pretty text-y?  I've got a clearly binary file with an .eml extension, and I think that's wrong
[18:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Atlantic777: I have had bad issue with rt*sta stuff
[18:29] <introzen> dpkg: fel: kunde inte skriva status-databaspost om "libtext-wrapi18n-perl" till "/var/lib/dpkg/status": Enheten är full
[18:29] <introzen> ENGLISH:
[18:29] <introzen> dpkg: error: unable to write status database record about 'libtext-wrapi18n-perl "to" / var / lib / dpkg / status': The device is full
[18:29] <Tanelt> nameless`, Okitain ok Thanks! .. because I read that it is the only way to force the  encryption key.
[18:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> apt-get autoclean && apt-get autoremove
[18:30] <HelloWorld321> llutz: tx
[18:30] <nameless`> azizLIGHTS: you have multiple disk and your OS is on another one ?
[18:30] <llutz> HelloWorld321: you might want to use -cmin
[18:30] <introzen> Can use any apt commands, get the same error
[18:30] <azizLIGHTS> nameless`: i have sda where the os is, sdb where my dada is, and sdc is this disk
[18:30] <azizLIGHTS> sdc is empty
[18:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> azizLIGHTS: just use gparted to fix it
[18:30] <Atlantic777> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm lucky to not need it but I had to go to the dark side and back to make it work on friends' notebooks. -.-
[18:31] <nameless`> azizLIGHTS: ok so there is no need for reboot
[18:31] <azizLIGHTS> nameless`: nope i dont think so. because its nonessential drive
[18:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I'm fighting tooth and nail with my dlink dwa-160
[18:31] <nameless`> azizLIGHTS: try cfdisk /dev/sdc (root)
[18:31] <nameless`> azizLIGHTS: try juyst create a partition using the ncurse interface
[18:32] <azizLIGHTS> alright :)
[18:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> introzen: man you're boned. I could not imagine a world without
[18:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> introzen: man you're boned. I could not imagine a world without apt-get
[18:32] <introzen> what does the command "sudo dkpg --configure -a" do?
[18:32] <introzen> is it possible to do it manually?
[18:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmmm
[18:33] <amicrawler> oh by the way guys  i was able to get the old ubuntu list working on 10.10
[18:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> check man dpkg
[18:33] <amicrawler> work good now
[18:33] <amicrawler> but flash is a problem
[18:33] <carliewolf08> Wondering if I can get some help on installing ubutu on a computer I had just unfortunately reformated my harddrive.  I'd like to install ubuntu but not sure what to download and burn from the computer I am currently on.  I guess I'd have to make sure that the cd I burn will also be bootable?
[18:33] <amicrawler> what is your cpu
[18:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> carliewolf08: what os are you burning from?
[18:33] <amicrawler> amd or ppc or intel
[18:34] <carliewolf08> I am on a computer with windows 8 which I hate and need to get a system on a ibmthinkpad T60
[18:34] <bilou23> SonikkuAmerica: unfortunately I can't find it, I've been able to get into system info thx to a terminal "gnome-control-center", but then when I go to system info > graphical card section, the driver is unknown, I can't see any info about the extact model.
[18:34] <nameless`> carliewolf08: make sure that secureboot is not enabled on your Bios
[18:35] <SonikkuAmerica> bilou23: Uh-oh/
[18:35] <SonikkuAmerica> *.
[18:35] <amicrawler> ok   is prob a intel chip set
[18:35] <amicrawler> i have a ibm
[18:35] <carliewolf08> hummm not sure I even know what secure boot is!
[18:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> carliewolf08: I am not sure about win$8, but burncdcc in win$7 is good for burning isos
[18:35] <amicrawler> ubunut 12 would do you ok
[18:35] <carliewolf08> I thought I had set bios to but from cd rom but it looks like it's still not accepting that
[18:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> carliewolf08: secure boot = windows trying to keep us out
[18:36] <llutz> uefi/secure-boot on an old T60 ~ very doubtful
[18:36] <amicrawler> go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:36] <carliewolf08> but I think that windows is no longer on that system as I had tried to install win 98 on it and I think it already formatted the whole drive
[18:36] <amicrawler> 1st for winbloz 8
[18:37] <introzen> ntzrmtthihu777, so u think i'm fucked?
[18:37] <amicrawler> and is it winbloz 32bit or 64bit
[18:37] <llutz> carliewolf08: what cpu does the T60 have (64bit capable?)?
[18:37] <nameless`> carliewolf08: ok, because you had windows8 i assumed it was a recent computer with secure boot but if it's an old one it's ok
[18:37] <sarger001> My friend said he's going to force a windows install on my PC
[18:37] <carliewolf08> yes I believe it was 65 bit because it had had windows xp on it before I had gotten the rootkit virus on it
[18:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> introzen: you are in an unenviable postion, but you may be able to fix it
[18:37] <sarger001> Thing is, i'm going to install ubuntu on his PC
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> bilou23: That doesn't sound good at all.
[18:38] <sarger001> And then back onto mine
[18:38] <sarger001> victory will be mine
[18:38] <nameless`> carliewolf08: secure boot is a feature in the bios that prevent unauthorized OS to boot (using cryptographic key)
[18:38] <sarger001> and i shall trash his install disk
[18:38] <carliewolf08>  I got the impression that as a result of the rootkit virus somethng took over the system since I could no longer do admin stuff or recovery stuff on it
[18:38] <sarger001> and a week later, he will thank me for installing ubuntu.
[18:38] <amicrawler> ok your t60 is a 64bit
[18:39] <amicrawler> just looked
[18:39] <introzen> okey screw it i'm reinstalling this shit ;P
[18:39] <llutz> carliewolf08: then get http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest   copy it to CD/usb and install
[18:39] <amicrawler> so you will need a 64bit system
[18:39] <carliewolf08> So I was trying to figure out a way to wipe the system and then reinstall something.  But I may have made an error that it won't accept my cd's now
[18:39] <Auriga> Hi, Did 10.04 get extended support in the end & for how long is it intended if so?
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !10.04 | Auriga
[18:39] <sarger001> Umm guys i need some help here
[18:39] <amicrawler> .ok
[18:39] <ugur> selam
[18:40] <ugur> türk varmı türk
[18:40] <carliewolf08> llutz which ubutu is that the one that is supported only 18 mnths or the lt one
[18:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> sarger001: what is youre issue, again?
[18:40] <Art_> brand new to Ubuntu and need some help please
[18:40] <llutz> carliewolf08: the latest, not the lts one
[18:40] <ugur> TURK VARMI
[18:40] <sarger001> my friend threatens to install Windows XP on my machine. I'm going to install Ubuntu on his and back on mine, but he hides his CD drive. I have no way to convert him.
[18:40] <Auriga> Damn... April...
[18:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !lts | carliewolf08
[18:40] <bilou23> SonikkuAmerica: the issue appeared when using firefox, suddenly it froze out, I couldn't do force quit because the mouse was frozen too, so I pressed the shutdown button, and since then, I can only see the desktop background.
[18:40] <Darael> nameless`: Sorry for the delay:  On the desktop, run the update-manager and it should offer the new version.  On the server, ensure the update-manager-core package is installed, and do a sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:40] <llutz> carliewolf08: just make sure your cpu really supports 64bit... get 32bit to be on the safe side
[18:40] <amicrawler> i had that befor
[18:41] <amicrawler> it was a xfree86 issue
[18:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> sarger001: neither you nor him have the right to install another os on your respective machines.
[18:41] <ugur> UBUMTU PLSMEEEEEEEE
[18:41] <ugur> :S
[18:41] <sarger001> Heh. It was a dare by both of us NT. We both dared. We both do it.
[18:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> ugur: turkish?
[18:41] <carliewolf08> ok I will try that then.  when I download it will it automatically make it a bootable disk or is there something special I have to do?
[18:41] <ugur> EVET TÜRK YES YES
[18:41] <HelloWorld321> llutz: "man find" says "File's status was last changed n*24 hours ago." ... does it mean: before, after, or exactly?
[18:41] <basiclaser> ugur, +1
[18:41] <Darael> !tr | ugur
[18:41] <amicrawler> just make usb bootable
[18:42] <llutz> carliewolf08: for 32bit lts http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[18:42] <ugur> YARDIM LAZIM YARDIM
[18:42] <Art_> installed using wubi last night.  ran update and after reboot I get a black screen.  thought I might be impatient or something so left it while I went and caught some sleep.  came back and still same black screen
[18:42] <HelloWorld321> llutz: oic, it says above
[18:42] <sarger001> He won't accept Ubuntu as a good OS. He thinks windows is right.
[18:42] <llutz> HelloWorld321: x*24++
[18:42] <sarger001> amicrawler: Was that sent to me?
[18:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Art_: wubi == fail
[18:42] <amicrawler> winbloz
[18:42] <ugur> VARMI YARDIM
[18:42] <Art_> can't get a terminal or anything, don't know what I did wrong
[18:42] <HelloWorld321> I can specify with either +/-
[18:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> ugur: /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:43] <basiclaser> % &&&
[18:43] <llutz> HelloWorld321: correct
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> bilou23: I've never heard of that happening... not too sure how to help...
[18:43] <sarger001> My friend was open to ubuntu about 3 weeks ago but somehow he's now gone fully against it.
[18:43] <carliewolf08> thank you guys!!
[18:43] <sarger001> I must convert him!
[18:43] <ugur> YARDIM YOKMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[18:43] <sarger001> I must save the world of windows machines!
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> bilou23: alt+f2 gnome panel
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> bilou23: alt+f2 gnome-panel
[18:43] <sarger001> I MUST RID HIM OF HIS IDIOTIC PUNY WINDOWS 7
[18:43] <Art_> install with wubi had no problems
[18:43] <goodtime> Art_: what?
[18:43] <Okitain> sarger001: pleeease, give people a break.
[18:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> sarger001: actually win$7 is pretty huge
[18:43] <ugur> ALLAHINIZ İÇİN İB YARDIM YAFFF
[18:44] <llutz> !en | ugur
[18:44] <ugur> YES ?
[18:44] <llutz> !tr | ugur
[18:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> at times like this I wish turkish was one of the languages I know some of
[18:45] <nisio> google translator
[18:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> if he was japanese, german, or spanish I could help.
[18:45] <ugur> YA Bİ YARDIM YA HİÇ BİŞİ YAPAMIYORUMMMMMMMM
[18:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> nisio: tranny programs suck
[18:46] <ugur> TÜRK YOKMUUUUUUUUUUU
[18:46] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Puny is not mutually exclusive with huge.  A thing can be huge, yet without oooomph.  And that is all I have to say on the Windows/Ubuntu war.
[18:46] <llutz> ugur kes şunu
[18:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: true.
[18:46] <Darael> IdleOne: <gratitude>
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> The last this ugur said was "Fine, don't help me."
[18:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: what did he do, exactly?
[18:46] <aster_resta> Hello, I'm trying to get append some url to a config file in a bash script with no success http://pastie.org/6372799 help is welcomed, all the line returns are fucked up, I guess, it's the ">>" operator
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> *The last thing
[18:47] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Got ugur out of the channel.
[18:47] <IdleOne> aster_resta: No swearing please
[18:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> aster_resta: is it a root config file?
[18:47] <meet> I have installed some packages on one computer and want to install the same on other. How can use the downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives to prevent downloading of the same packages
[18:48] <SonikkuAmerica> aster_resta: Can't access, site contains !malware
[18:48] <aster_resta> ntzrmtthihu777: just a screenrc, I'm trying to manipulate the system one (the paste script is just pasting it in current directory, same problem occures)
[18:48] <aster_resta> ntzrmtthihu777: just a screenrc, I'm trying to manipulate the system one (the paste script is just pasting it in current directory, same problem occurs)
[18:48] <aster_resta> SonikkuAmerica: paste is safe as far as I know
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> aster_resta: College proxy blaocked it
[18:49] <Darael> meet: If they're on the same network, try squid-deb-proxy (on the machine that's downloaded them) and squid-deb-proxy-client (on the other(s)).  Should then be automatic.  Otherwise, just copy /var/cache/apt/archives between the machines (but sudo will be necessary to place them on the second, of course).
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> *blocke
[18:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> aster_resta: no need to repost over a tiny typo. hmm, try using tee instead, like echo "foo://bar.com/" | tee .screenrc
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> *BLOCKED (Grr)
[18:49] <|thunder> !no-unity
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !nounity
[18:49] <|thunder> ty
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> yw
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !u
[18:49] <bilou23> SonikkuAmerica: apparently now menus are back again, I've uninstalled "nvidia-current" package IIRC and rebooted, in system info the graphical card is still set to unknown, so the driver is, I think this can cause issues later?
[18:50] <meet> Darael: I put the packages in that folder using sudo. But on giving the sudo apt-get install chromium-browser command at it starts downloading the whole pacakge again.
[18:50] <ugur_> YARDIM EDEN YOKMU YAFFFFFFFFF
[18:50] <ugur_> TÜRK YOKMUUUUUUUUUUU
[18:50] <llutz> meet: sudo dpkg -i *.deb  not apt-get
[18:50] <bastidrazor> ugur_: we speak the same language.
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> bilou23: OK, if Ubuntu says it can't detect your card, don't use prop drivers for a card it can't detec.t
[18:51] <ugur_> TURKEY :S
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> *detect.
[18:51] <aster_resta> ntzrmtthihu777: why using tee there ?
[18:51] <aster_resta> SonikkuAmerica: bad college proxy !
[18:51] <DJones> !tr | ugur_
[18:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> tee is like >> but you can see what it does
[18:51] <Darael> bastidrazor: That's useful.  Canst get ugur to take it to #ubuntu-tr?
[18:51] <meet> thanks llutz
[18:51] <ugur_> UBOTTU YARDIM YAF
[18:51] <Darael> DJones: That's been tried a number of times.  ugur has ignored it.  Good attempt, though.
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ugur_:
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Ubuntu için Türkçe desteği kanalı vardır: # ubuntu-tr. Bu İngilizce kanal olduğunu.
[18:52] <Okitain> Who's got the op powers?
[18:52] <ugur_> NERDEN GİRİYOZ ONA  SONİKKOAMERİCA ?????
[18:52] <bastidrazor> Okitain: we all have op powers.
[18:53] <aster_resta> ntzrmtthihu777: seems like same problem, I'll try to replace curl with wget
[18:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> aster_resta: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> bastidrazor: Ummm... no we dont'
[18:54] <ugur_> YARDIM YAF YARDIM BİŞİ YAPAMIYORUM
[18:54] <ugur_> UBUNTU DA
[18:54] <bilou23> SonikkuAmerica: what I don't understand is, if it doesn't detect my graphical card, why can I even see things on the screen?
[18:54] <osse> How can I generate a list of installed packages that match a patterns? I'd like just the package names. but apt-cache search and dpkg -l give a lot of extra information meant for humans. For the sake of argument, I'm not human :)
[18:54] <aster_resta> ntzrmtthihu777: I'm tired of changing every time the same things on my virtual machine I'm making a script to setup everythin
[18:54] <aster_resta> g
[18:54] <llutz> aster_resta: wget -a ~/screenrc https://raw.github.com/nojhan/dotfiles/master/.screenrc
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ugur_: Tüm kapaklar kullanarak değil misin?
[18:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> ugur_: we don't speek turkish
[18:55] <ugur_> NAS ANLAMADIM KARDEŞ
[18:55] <IdleOne> ugur_: Please stop.
[18:55] <ugur_> :ssssSS
[18:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ugur_: sprechen sie deutsch?
[18:55] <HelloWorld321> this one will be a little obscure: does anybody know if ~/.rstudio-desktop/sdb is supposed to have any .eml files in it?  I ran an unfortunate find script last night, and I'm trying to unwind it.
[18:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> HelloWorld321: ouch.
[18:56] <IdleOne> ntzrmtthihu777: be helpful or be quiet please.
[18:56] <ugur_> YARDIM OF OF OF
[18:56] <HelloWorld321> ntzrmtthihu777: tx
[18:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> IdleOne: I am attempting. maybe he speaks a language i know and I can help
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> HelloWorld321: Good question... check #ubuntustudio
[18:56] <aster_resta> llutz: thanks
[18:56] <meet> llutz: i am getting some broken package error
[18:57] <aster_resta> llutz: it add the return of wget to the file ...
[18:57] <aster_resta> not good ;)
[18:58] <klrr> do i need to add a repo to install flash player if i installed the minimal mini.iso?
[18:58] <c|oneman> hi, someone put in a custom rootkit that tells jokes when I login as root. how do I delete it?
[18:58] <klrr> do i need to add a repo to install flash player if i installed the minimal mini.iso?
[18:59] <compdoc> c|oneman, you sure its not just MOTD?
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: did you by chance check if there are any interesting . files in roots home?
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> like compdoc is saying it may just be an MOTD -
[18:59] <yeats> c|oneman: could be something added to root's bashrc too
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> or anything interesting in roots . files in that case
[19:00] <llutz> aster_resta: ? maybe i got you wrong, didn't you want to get the file-content from the URL being added to your screenrc file?
[19:00] <Darael> klrr: Check if the Partner repo is enabled.  I think that's all.  It should be in /etc/apt/sources.list, but possibly commented out.
[19:00] <aster_resta> indeed yes
[19:00] <llutz> aster_resta: thats what the wget does
[19:01] <c|oneman> its just meant a joke but im tired of asking him to remove it, it asks you a riddle when you login
[19:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> could I get a bit of assistance sharing internet by ethernet cable?
[19:01] <aster_resta> on my machine I see the log append to the file (seems said in the man)
[19:01] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: again - check the /root/.* files
[19:02] <klrr> Darael: ty
[19:03] <aster_resta> llutz: I've just curl $url >> output file … seems to work
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> i think wget may put the html output to stderr or something
[19:04] <dr_willis> c|oneman: if its the motd file   use  "touch .hushlogin"  to make the shell not show it
[19:04] <c|oneman> well it doesnm
[19:04] <c|oneman> doesn't let me continue if I asnwer wrong, so its not just a message, its a script
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> thats because if you have to answer a riddle its probably not a motd
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> its probably a script
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> wget yadayada -o- | tee - file should do it, or tee file -
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> and in the SAME way - you need to check the .* files
[19:05] <streulma> what size of partition linux minimal need?
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: if it's starting at login it's in the users directory somewhere - if you wnt it stopped you need to look for it - thats all
[19:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think I took care of ugur, I had a tranny chat with im in /q
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> its not like it would be hard to find - look in the users /root/.* files and look for  the script being called and remove it from there - that simple
[19:05] <c|oneman> okay i found the script
[19:05] <compdoc> c|oneman, that sucks
[19:06] <compdoc> what runs it?
[19:06] <bilou23> SonikkuAmerica: FYI, this is because my nvidia card has ptimus support, and this is currently not supported by ubuntu, apparently I have to install Bumblebee.
[19:06] <bilou23> *optimus
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> you can do a grep -r in your home and may fine whats calling the script
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> grep -r <script_name> ~/
[19:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bilou23: I just read something about that
[19:06] <Darael> streulma: Depends.  Do Linux From Scratch?  100MB-ish, but it's likely not to be very useful.  Ubuntu minimal?  Well, that depends exactly *how* minimal.
[19:07] <SonikkuAmerica> bilou23: OK, that's what I was missing.
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> the last thing he said to me was "I understand" and "do turkish"
[19:07] <maxygas> hi
[19:07] <streulma> Darael: well, I have a 128GB SSD, for use with Mac, I would also install Ubuntu
[19:08] <Okitain> streulma: if you're talking about a usable desktop, I'd say 2gb.
[19:08] <Darael> !requirements | streulma
[19:08] <Okitain> streulma: but 10gb would be beter.
[19:08] <Dataoriginal> I watch the prirate bay movie
[19:08] <Dataoriginal> I watch the pirate bay movie
[19:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> streulma: yeah, like Okitain said. I have a 16gb / and that does the trick for me
[19:09] <Darael> Dataoriginal: Good for thee.  What does it have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dataoriginal: and what does that have to ubuntu?
[19:09] <maxygas> can you help me to install backtrack 5 tools and progs on ubuntu 12.10 ?? please
[19:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxygas: if you want to use backtrack use backtrack. I have it on a second partition on my laptop
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> maxygas: backtrack actually has a listing of the packages on their site - you can search on their site -
[19:09] <Okitain> maxygas: it's better if you just use backtrack.
[19:10] <Darael> streulma, Okitain: The community help recommends at least 5GB, but more allows for adding more... stuff.  Don't forget to make room for user data, either with a larger partition or cunning mounts.
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxygas: because most of the programs must be used as root
[19:10] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: okay looks like that found the custom mail script that spies on me too
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: dude - whats the deal with your box?
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> wow
[19:10] <maxygas> i know but i cant setup my external wireless device but with ubuntu works perfeckt
[19:10] <Okitain> Darael: I don't have problems, dedicated disk and everything.
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: how bad is it?
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> maxygas: dual boot
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> bad is what? ntzrmtthihu777 ?
[19:11] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: it doesn't have important purposes, my friend thinks its funny
[19:11] <HelloWorld321> k: tx, llutz.  The cmin was exactly what I needed to pinpoint all the files that I accidentally renamed with that unfortunate find script.  I think I've backed it all out.
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: with his box
[19:11] <Darael> Okitain: Yeah, the bit I was pointing at thee was the community docs suggesting 5+GB.  The rest was more for streulma.
[19:11] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: sounds annoying
[19:11] <maxygas> ubuntu first and bt?
[19:11] <thebishop> anyone running 12.10 on an ASUS Zenbook?  I'm thinking about buying one for my wife
[19:11] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: nothing - seems he has a friend that likes to complicate life - thats all - answering riddles to login (script) - sends data via mail (script)?
[19:11] <HelloWorld321> Is there a handy utility that checks system integrity to try to make sure that all files look like they should be?
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah. I have a 16gb root for ubuntu and 32 gb for backtrack, the rest is swap or /home
[19:12] <Darael> HelloWorld321: cunning use of debsums.
[19:12] <Okitain> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook for thebishop !
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: sounds pretty cool, lol.
[19:12] <thebishop> Okitain, yeah i saw that.  was wondering about personal experiences
[19:12] <steve_fi> is there anyone that knows much about alsa/pulseaudio and hdmi with intel-snd-hda ?
[19:12] <Darael> HelloWorld321: Which is to say, debsums.  It won't pick up files that have been added, though, of course, or custom packages installed with dpkg, so there are still other things to check.
[19:12] <SolarisBoy> ntzrmtthihu777: i remember we used to put exit 0 in peoples .bashrc's - now that was cool!
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: lol, right?
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, seems ugur got the message.
[19:13] <Darael> c|oneman: for future reference, this is why we don't allow even our friends root access (most of the time) :P
[19:13] <metals> hi... is there anyone here who works with Conky?... How can one run weather application?
[19:13] <c|oneman> wow, he even regexed so I can enter my name in 2 different ways
[19:14] <SolarisBoy> Darael: true statement -
[19:14] <c|oneman> Darael: I tend to reimage the moment I don't understand something so :/
[19:14] <codrus> Is this a bug? I made a script to disable my touchpad, made it executable to all, added it to 'Startup Applications', but sometimes on boots it gets run and other times it does't.
[19:14] <c|oneman> im being more patient this time
[19:14] <dr_willis> metals:  find some conky weather configs. theres quite a few out
[19:14] <Dataoriginal> how can change the ubuntu server to graphic interface?
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: sounds interesting; are you using a premade script or your own concoction?
[19:14] <SolarisBoy> Dataoriginal: install ubuntu-desktop
[19:15] <metals> I am on Pinguy now
[19:15] <metals> and I am a noob :)
[19:15] <Okitain> metals: elaborate?
[19:15] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: http://pastebin.com/kmHkyksQ
[19:15] <Dataoriginal> Is the same to secure the ubuntu desktop
[19:15] <Dataoriginal> ?
[19:15] <SolarisBoy> i think it's like a penguin + guy?
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: brother! *handshake* look in the .conkyrc and uncomment the weather section
[19:15] <dr_willis> metals: see the pinguy forums and support ares. they got a conky forum
[19:15] <Darael> Okitain: Thus quoth expositionDalek?
[19:16] <metals> Thanks, dr_willis
[19:16] <HelloWorld321> Darael: tx.  It's running now.  Looks like everything is OK.  When it's done, I'll try a grep for what's not OK
[19:16] <dr_willis> metals: i suggest sticking with normal ubuntu
[19:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> SolarisBoy: holy crap that's funny
[19:16] <Okitain> Darael: that's some reference I can't get.
[19:16] <Darael> HelloWorld321: I wrote a script to auto-reinstall things that had been damaged using debsums, once upon a time.  I can try to dig it out for thee, if thou'dst like.
[19:17] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: as per that pastebin , lookslike its bashrc
[19:17] <metals> okitain: Conky shows my CPU usage, and everything... But no weather report
[19:17] <Darael> Okitain: Ah.  I can explain by PM, if thou wilt, but I'll not bother the channel with it.
[19:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: in ~/.conkyrc there is already a premade weather setup.
[19:17] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: yea - thats whats sourcing it.
[19:17] <dr_willis> metals:  check out the "conky colors" theme/setup
[19:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: its just "commented out"; you can enable it by deleting the #'s on certain lines
[19:18] <zimzum_> and as i sit and lurk, i learn
[19:18] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: what is viminfo>?
[19:18] <HelloWorld321> Avast Dareal: that should not be necessary.  Looks like everythign is OK.  Tx, tho.
[19:18] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: it's a datafile used by vim to tell things like last position you were in while editing a file and restore it etc -
[19:18] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: he seems to have used vim to make that file lol
[19:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: yeah, starting at about line 128 in .conkyrc
[19:18] <Darael> !tab | HelloWorld321 That "ea" tells me th'art not using tab-completion.  Here
[19:19] <c|oneman> SolarisBoy: can I tell which user he used to su so I don't have to change all the passwords?
[19:19] <metals> it is already set on some city in U.K.... but Conky doesn't show that city, either
[19:19] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: yes
[19:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> tab-completion == a programmer's gift to programmers
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: you just need to find out the right location code for your city
[19:20] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: check your auth.log - however you shouldn't be letting everyone have access to ssh - there is a way within the ssh config to permit login to a user or list of users - that alone would help you
[19:20] <Darael> c|oneman: If he can drop things in /root, then he must have been acting as root.  Which means either a root password was set (bad idea) or he used sudo, rather than su, in which case it's a question of having a look at /var/log/auth.log.
[19:20] <c|oneman> yeah he had access to sudoers
[19:20] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: another thing - be careful with "changing all users pwrods" because some users are system users and dont have passwords and shouldn't
[19:21] <metals> I have that.... but the problem is with showing Weather in Conky... it doesn't show that part in Conky
[19:21] <SolarisBoy> c|oneman: thats likely after he did a su - but regardless sudoers as well allows control of who can run what - to a user granularity
[19:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, look in .conkyrc and uncomment the lines
[19:21] <threex5> i'm at a friend's place and whenever i'm here on the wi-fi, pages will only load half the time. This is in linux. on windows pages load fine. I have installed wicd, I have disabled ipv6 in firefox, and it doesn't help. Does anyone have any ideas?
[19:22] <HelloWorld321> should I be worried about "missing file" or "no md5sums for" messages from debsums?  http://pastebin.com/L9cVmHtW
[19:22] <c|oneman> they load completely half the time, or they always half load :P
[19:23] <Darael> c|oneman: Or they spend half of the time it takes them to load actually making progress, and the other half stalled? :P
[19:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: what if your internet is actually really fast and this is actually a gif/
[19:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> ?
[19:23] <zimzum_> hahahaaa
[19:24] <Darael> HelloWorld321: No md5sums is annoying, but there's nothing to be done.  Blame the packager.   Make my day.
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: pastbin your .conkrc, lemme see it
[19:25] <ghost562> hello fellers
[19:25] <zimzum_> how are you guys copy'ing ur terminal pges, i seen the pastie
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: fello hellers
[19:25] <metals> OK
[19:25] <ghost562> hey ntzr, i got ubuntu 12.04 lts running :D
[19:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> copy and paste into pastebin.
[19:26] <HelloWorld321> Tx Darael.  I'll disregard your suggestion because I *just* installed debsums just now.
[19:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: cool! do I know you lol ?
[19:26] <zimzum_> what i can't copy command line with a simple click??
[19:26] <KI4RO> ghost562, Congrats
[19:26] <Darael> HelloWorld321: I meant a reinstall of the package with missing files!  In this case, acroread.
[19:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> zimzum_: what do you mean
[19:26] <HelloWorld321> oic.  Good point, then.  Tx again Darael
[19:26] <ghost562> ps, how would i make my second hard drive auto mount at start up? i remember something about the guid of the hard drive, but no idea how to again.
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: easy
[19:27] <ghost562> ntzrmtthihu777: you were helping me out yesterday?
[19:27] <zimzum_> it don't let me highlight-left click-copy-paste
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: do you have gparted installed?
[19:27] <savio> !mount
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> it lets me do that
[19:27] <ghost562> i've no idea, let me see
[19:27] <zimzum_> in ur terminal?/
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> savio: that would be overkill, just fix up the fstab
[19:27] <metals> ntzrmtthihu777: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5583117/
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> zimzum_: yeah, its easily done if its not moving
[19:28] <savio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[19:28] <savio> this might help
[19:28] <emin_> hi
[19:28] <zimzum_> hmm...
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: delete the # at the start of lines 128-146
[19:29] <emin_> I have a problem
[19:29] <emin_> Can you help me ?
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: query me
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> emin_: shoot, what is the problem
[19:29] <emin_> ubunto one is not logging
[19:29] <jm-> ntzrmtthihu777: nigger.
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> an, no problem
[19:29] <emin_> email not sendinding
[19:29] <metals> 128 to 146?
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, no idea
[19:30] <metals> or 128 and 146?
[19:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup, all between
[19:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> thank you IdleOne
[19:30] <HelloWorld321> Darael: my debsums is still running, and I have two actual FAILED so far, but they aren't files that I messed with: /var/lib/nvidia-common/last_gfx_boot & /usr/share/phpmyadmin/libraries/.htaccess
[19:30] <ghost562> ntzrmtthihu777: query?
[19:30] <HelloWorld321> should I be worried?  Should I do something?
[19:31] <Darael> HelloWorld321: I'd check out the .htaccess, just in case, but /var/lib/nvidia-common/last_gfx_boot looks like something that's *meant* to change and shouldn't have been in the list of files to be checksummed.
[19:32] <zimzum_> what is debsum
[19:32] <streulma> ok
[19:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> zimzum_: its a way of checking if a set of files has been changed by calculating the md5sum hash
[19:32] <streulma> do a dualboot, but can I run virtualbox vm's on my Ubuntu on a hfs+ disk?
[19:33] <HelloWorld321> zimzum_: I'm running it because I messed up some files, and I'm trying to find the ones I messed up.
[19:33] <c|oneman> ah good, I found that porn that overites my index.html
[19:33] <Darael> streulma: I see no reason why not.  The VM won't know what filesystem its disk image is on, after all.
[19:33] <Darael> c|oneman: I suggest it's more important to find the script that's *doing* that.
[19:33] <someone235> Hey. I try to access my mysql server remotely, so I do "GRANT ALL ON database.* TO user@'my_ip' IDENTIFIED BY 'my_password'". but when I try to connect it says: "ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'my_mysql_server_ip' (111)". anyone knows how I can handle with this?
[19:33] <zimzum_> ok so that might be some thing i want to do to figure out my nvidia??
[19:33] <c|oneman> Darael: meh, its tasteful and I dont run an important website
[19:34] <Darael> c|oneman: Nevertheless, might as well, while th'art hunting.
[19:34] <metals> ntzrmtthihu777: Done! The weather part is added! But now it doesn't show the weather and stuff
[19:34] <c|oneman> im pretty tired of seeing those boobs now. He also put in a file called ls.exe on my windows machine, knowing that I eventually would type that
[19:34] <Darael> zimzum_: What ntzrmtthihu777 said.  Specifically, it's for checking files installed with the package manager.  And I *think* it can do SHA1 hashes as well, these days.
[19:34] <c|oneman> pretty cleaver timebomb
[19:35] <threeseas> I need multiple long difficult to follow suggestions to get eric4 and soundblacter audigy 2zs working in ubunti 12.04.... after a update....
[19:35] <Darael> c|oneman: work around it by using dir on Ubuntu as well as windows?  It's not the same as ls, but it works.
[19:35] <Darael> c|oneman: Or, y'know, just remove ls.exe.
[19:35] <Darael> One or t'other.
[19:35] <streulma> oh cloneman
[19:36] <c|oneman> yeah. but its clever because It would take a couple of weeks for me to type that on my laptop
[19:36] <Darael> c|oneman: Gotta say, though, this person is sounding less and less friendly.
[19:36] <streulma> I want always type ls by mistake on Windows :)
[19:36] <streulma> is there a way to do ls ?
[19:36] <c|oneman> I created ls.bat that runs dir, probably wouldnt accept paramaters though.
[19:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> streulma: you can always make a batch file named ls that executes dir
[19:36] <Darael> streulma: Probably the most overengineered solution would be to install Cygwin... :P
[19:36] <\\Mr_C\\> what font for linux is the same as the fixedsys in windows?
[19:37] <streulma> Darael: oh, I installed GIT :)
[19:37] <streulma> then I have bash :) and a shell
[19:37] <ari-_-e> hey guys, a friend of mine just tried installing Ubuntu from a USB stick, and the installer tried to install Ubuntu on the USB stick
[19:38] <threeseas> Come on guys, I know you can do this -  I need multiple long difficult to follow suggestions to get eric4 and soundblacter audigy 2zs working in ubunti 12.04.... after a update....
[19:38] <ari-_-e> is that a thing?
[19:38] <Darael> ari-_-e: It should have given an option for the hard drive as well...
[19:38] <Okitain> ari-_-e: it can happen.
[19:38] <ari-_-e> Darael: so it should be asking him where to install?
[19:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, make sure it installs to sda, I bet
[19:39] <c|oneman> Darael: hes still butthurt about when I used lpr.exe in highschool
[19:39] <Darael> ari-_-e: It usually does, yes.  At the same screen where it would allow going into the custom partitioner.
[19:39] <ari-_-e> I don't think picking by the device name is very robust, because it depends on the discovery order
[19:39] <aeroflot> hola
[19:40] <ari-_-e> Darael: so you have to do the "advanced mode" thing just to pick which drive to install to?
[19:40] <HelloWorld321> about the .htaccess for my phpadmin ... I can open https://localhost/phpmyadmin from firefox in ubuntu no problem; but my other computer is running Internet Explorer, and refuses to go there because there's no security certificate.  I think that's a whole 'nother thang.
[19:40] <lickalott> gents, trying to install server on a rig that doesn't currently have an OS.  When i download it from my computer it automatically gives me the AMD64.iso version.  The machine I'm putting it on is a 32bit architecture.  Will the install auto detect the bit type to use?
[19:40] <yeats> lickalott: you have to download a 32-bit iso
[19:40] <metals> ntzrmtthihu777: Done! The weather part is added! But now it doesn't show the weather and stuff
[19:41] <Darael> lickalott: No, it won't.  But there should have been a dropdown on the download page to change the architecture...
[19:41] <Darael> ari-_-e: Nononono.  It should give a page where it gives options like "use entire disk", or "replace <BLAH> with Ubuntu", &c.
[19:42] <Darael> ari-_-e: this assumes using the graphical installer.
[19:42] <lickalott> found it.  it wasn't "BAM" right in my face.
[19:42] <lickalott> tks!
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> metals: ok, good. you need to figure out your weather code and such
[19:42] <Darael> HelloWorld321: Yeah, that's unrelated to the .htaccess.  As long as its contents don't have anything *crazy*, just ignore it.
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica>  metals: Is this indicator-weather we're talking?
[19:42] <metals> it is IRXX0015
[19:43] <metals> no
[19:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: conky
[19:43] <metals> Conky
[19:43] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777, metals: OK
[19:43] <knappador> I want to install ubuntu without screwing with the existing system's bootloader.
[19:44] <Darael> knappador: Whether or not that's possible, and how much work it'll be, depends on the existing system.
[19:44] <knappador> In fact, no GRUB etc is even needed.  Just vmlinuz and initramfs
[19:44] <HelloWorld321> Darael: tx then.  My (your) work here is done, then.
[19:44] <HelloWorld321> I'ma reboot
[19:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> knappador: besides, grub2 beats the crap out of other bootloaders
[19:44] <c|oneman> how do I get a recent version with apt-get instead of installing from source?
[19:44] <c|oneman> recent version of whatever.
[19:44] <knappador> Darael:   Is it possible to get the current graphical installer not to touch the MBR/bios_boot ?
[19:44] <Darael> knappador: *that* is easy.  Use the alternate (or minimal) CD, and just skip the bootloader-installation steps.  Don't think it can be done with the graphical one, though...
[19:45] <Darael> knappador: It *used* to be possible with the graphical installer, but I think that feature disappeared in the Great Ubiquity Rewrite.
[19:45] <knappador> god
[19:46] <knappador> alright, i'm totally up for advanced bullshit like customizing the installer and maintaining it myself
[19:46] <knappador> i need a solution that lets a user who has just started an ubuntu system configure their language, user etc
[19:46] <knappador> is there a pre-installed ubuntu workflow out there?
[19:46] <ari-_-e> hmm so the error that my friend actually got was "ran out of space", presumably on the USB stick he was using
[19:46] <knappador> imagine i'm selling computers
[19:47] <ari-_-e> could it be that the installer was downloading stuff onto the USB stick?
[19:47] <SonikkuAmerica> knappador: That can (sort of) be done smack at the start of the GUI installer
[19:47] <Darael> knappador: Yup.  Best (though not only) bet is once again the Alternate CD.  Choose to do an OEM install.
[19:47] <bekks> knappador: Install it once, deploy it on thousands of computers.
[19:47] <zimzum_> i just ran sudo apt-get install system info,  well now it brought my control panel for my vid card, so now i go to bios screen and turn on my card and see wht happens
[19:47] <Darael> knappador: The same option is available on the Graphical CD, but it doesn't provide as many shiny knobs to twiddle.
[19:48] <knappador> Darael:   The OEM install by default will let the user configure their schuff?
[19:48] <streulma> ubiquity ?
[19:48] <knappador> What is ubiquity anyway?   I've been out of the Ubuntu loop for quite a bit
[19:48] <SonikkuAmerica> !ubiquity
[19:48] <Darael> knappador: Yup.  User accounts, language, keyboard, et cetera.
[19:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Nuts, that needs registering
[19:49] <SonikkuAmerica> knappador: Ubiquity is the GUI installer for Ubuntu.
[19:49] <knappador> Suite.     Alternative image.  OEM install.
[19:50] <knappador> Are there any tools for quickly converting an Ubuntu installation to a Xubuntu installation etc?  It's confusing to users IMHO to have "distributions" that just amount to default packages
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica> knappador: There is no easy way to do that.
[19:50] <knappador> eg Dream Linux, Lubuntu etc.
[19:51] <M1DLG> Anyone expirenced a live disk working but an actual installation not booting?
[19:51] <Darael> knappador: install (eg) xubuntu-desktop, remove ubuntu-desktop, sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:51] <knappador> yeah...  that's something I had considered attacking, but I don't want to do it in an distro-specific way
[19:51] <Darael> knappador: That's the best I can think of...
[19:51] <bekks> knappador: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:52] <Hwkiller> autoremove does not clean metapackages well
[19:52] <knappador> Tutorials on switching desktop managers might be a better way.    Is there documentation in the Ubuntu stuff aimed at making new users aware of what their options are?
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> autoclean should help
[19:52] <lesshaste> I am in lubuntu.. how do I get which desktop environment I am using?
[19:52] <Hwkiller> yes, it should. it does not.
[19:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> knappador: are you actually trying to promote ubuntu?
[19:53] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: What do you mean by that?
[19:53] <Hwkiller> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop. apt-get autoremove --purge = nothing marked for removal
[19:53] <knappador> lesshaste:   Lubuntu uses LXDE by default.  You can install all DE/WM's.   Usually only one will run at a time.
[19:53] <bekks> lesshaste: In lubuntu, you are using LXDE.
[19:53] <Darael> Hwkiller: It's suboptimal, I concede, but it's the best I can come up with.
[19:53] <lesshaste> thanks.. is there some way to get it to tell me it is lxde?
[19:54] <Hwkiller> Darael: you can remove it if you find the correct a-get remove command. there is a webpage of them all
[19:54] <knappador> ntzrmtthihu777:     Nah.  I'm an elitist other-linux-user.   I want new users to figure out that their DE is not their OS.
[19:54] <Hwkiller> or actually list the deps of the matapckages and remove them all yourself
[19:54] <knappador> lesshaste:   Your Desktop Environment and Window Manager are just programs that run on your OS, which is Linux.
[19:55] <Darael> knappador: The *kernel* is Linux.  The OS, well, that's a bit more complicated.
[19:55] <knappador> lesshaste:   pstree  will show you which programs launched which
[19:55] <knappador> Darael:   holy war
[19:56] <lesshaste> knappador, I see lightdm-+-Xor
[19:56] <Darael> Hwkiller: So there is.  If only I could recall where it lived.
[19:56] <MysticalBurrito[> This ending is sad....
[19:56] <lesshaste> knappador, and      |-xfce4-power-man
[19:56] <lesshaste>      |-xfconfd
[19:56] <simpleuser> Hello there.
[19:56] <knappador> lesshaste:   I don't know it.  You can google it.
[19:56] <lesshaste> knappador, maybe it is xfce?
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> knappador: gotcha, unity is *not* the only option
[19:56] <knappador> lesshaste:    A lot of the default ubuntu setups will use some programs from other DE's
[19:57] <simpleuser> When i try downloading a video on dailymotion through cclive, i've got this error : Checking ... ........ ..... libquvi: error: ...sr/share/libquvi-scripts/lua/website/dailymotion.lua:111: no match: sequence
[19:57] <knappador> lesshaste:   they're not very coupled in a lot of cases, so it's not a bad idea.
[19:57] <Darael> knappador: I'm not about to take sides, I'm just pointing out that it's not quite that simple.  In this case, I'd be inclined to say the OS was either Ubuntu or whichever-specific-ubuntu-variant-has-all-its-packages-installed.
[19:57] <MysticalBurrito[> I just go into Opera:Cache and download from my cache when downloading from Dailymotion
[19:57] <lesshaste> knappador, ok.. seems tricky to get it to admit it is lxde :)
[19:58] <simpleuser> (cclive v.0.7.9, libquvi v0.4.1, libquvi-scripts v0.4.8)
[19:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> would a ntfs have a different sort of uuid than ext4?
[19:58] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Yes.  Much shorter, prints in all-caps.
[19:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> k
[19:58] <knappador> lesshaste:   init launched a program probably called XDM or LXDM.  This is your graphical login screen.  That program launched something like LXWM or XFWM or whatever they're called
[19:59] <lesshaste> knappador, /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE  I see it
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Xfce uses lightdm like all the others now
[19:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: I never knew about such things untill I started using linux, and since I always use ext4 I thought they were all the same format
[19:59] <JulienP> (JulienP) Ive git a pb with double screen:  when i unset same picture for the both screen, it say : size for CRTC 147 is up to autorize limit.  Max 1680 1680.  What need i to do plz ?
[20:00] <lesshaste> SonikkuAmerica, is lxde using xfce?
[20:00] <knappador> SonikkuAmerica:   lightdm has gained the momentum?
[20:00] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: No.
[20:00] <freefox> how can I set refresh rate in tty?
[20:00] <SonikkuAmerica> knappador: Unity, KDE and XFCE all use it
[20:00] <knappador> cool
[20:00] <MysticalBurrito[> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=HyyXq3GDJq0
[20:00] <Darael> knappador: Incidentally, I recalled which site it is that provides commands for removing all packages from other Ubuntu derivatives than... whichever one is using.
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> knappador: I rather like the look of lightdm, I even use it on Pinguy os, which comes with gdm by default
[20:00] <knappador> lesshaste:   if you pastebin your pstree, we can pick it apart and tell you what you're running
[20:01] <SonikkuAmerica> knappador: Each lightdm screen is different, though, and I don't think LXDE uses it.
[20:01] <lesshaste> I want to set my web proxy using a pac-file-url
[20:01] <lesshaste> I thought I would follow http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[20:01] <M1DLG> I have installed ubuntu to a PC after testing with live disk. the live disk worked great - even ran CS:S no issues. I can't however boot to desktop from the installation from he same disk.
[20:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: yeah, psychocats has them
[20:01] <lesshaste> how can I actually list the option that /etc/environment accepts and in any case is that right thing for lxde?
[20:01] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah. They were brought up, but I couldn't recall the site in question at the time.
[20:01] <lesshaste> knappador, thanks but I have another problem which I would rather see fixed.. :)
[20:01] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Something about the name keeps evading me.
[20:01] <freefox> how can I set refresh rate in tty?
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol.
[20:02] <bekks> freefox: You cant.
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> well I just walked a n00b through editing his fstab for automounting an extra hdd
[20:02] <MysticalBurrito[> Downloading music :3
[20:02] <freefox> bekks: why not?
[20:02] <Darael> bekks, freefox: But *he* can!  *points at random channel denizen*
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> MysticalBurrito[: whatcha mean?
[20:03] <freefox> what? :)
[20:03] <Ienpw_III> I'm having trouble installing grub - I'm not sure where to install it and google isn't being much help
[20:03] <bekks> freefox: Because a tty doesnt even know what a refresh rate might be.
[20:03] <Darael> freefox: Sorry.  Had a moment of silly.
[20:03] <freefox> but I can set the resolution
[20:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> MysticalBurrito[: I automatically like you *handshake*
[20:03] <g0tcha> hey guys, whenever i install something using apt-get i get an error once done and asks me to run apt-get -f install, when i run it, i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5583225/
[20:03] <g0tcha> any ideas by any chance?
[20:03] <freefox> maybe there is a way to set the ref rate too
[20:03] <bekks> freefox: But you cant set the refresh rate. Even if you want it.
[20:04] <bekks> freefox: There is no such way.
[20:04] <MysticalBurrito[> Grub?
[20:04] <Franktiell> ciao
[20:04] <filipecaixeta> Hello guys, I really liked those little eyes in the bar of ubuntu, and other things like monitor memory and processor that had versions before Unity. Anyone know how I can use it on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:04] <Franktiell> !lis
[20:04] <Franktiell> !list
[20:04] <freefox> what if my monitor won't support the current rate?
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: do apt-get autoremove first
[20:04] <MysticalBurrito[> Burg is a polished version of Grub
[20:05] <MysticalBurrito[> looks nicer
[20:05] <MysticalBurrito[> but you probably only want to install it if you want a pretty looking bootloader
[20:05] <Ienpw_III> I just want /a/ bootloader :P
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> filipecaixeta: you can do it, I forget the exact method for unity, but alt+right click on the bar should give you some options
[20:05] <MysticalBurrito[> holy shit.... 54 tabs just opened in opera.... O_O
[20:05] <Darael> filipecaixeta: Basically?  Can't.  They're a GNOME2 thing, and everything's GNOME3 now.  From memory there's a mode in Quantal that would work with them.
[20:06] <Darael> !ohmy | MysticalBurrito[
[20:06] <waraqa> Hi, I want to get to get authorization to sell ubuntu, Who I should talk to?
[20:06] <M1DLG> SELL?
[20:06] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, if i run apt-get -f install then run apt-get autoremove the same error appears
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> waraqa: not gonna happen
[20:06] <MysticalBurrito[> Oh sorry, wrong chat. Xchat seems to open this every time I start it
[20:06] <waraqa> M1DLG: Yes, I want to sell ubuntu CDs
[20:06] <waraqa> ntzrmtthihu777: Is it forbidden?
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: don't do the -f install first, do autoremove first
[20:07] <Darael> waraqa: And why would people buy it when they can download it for free?
[20:07] <filipecaixeta> thanks for the help
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> waraqa: is selling free things a dumb business move?
[20:07] <Darael> waraqa: No authorisation is required, but I see no reason they'd sell when people can get it for free.
[20:07] <waraqa> Darael: I want to sell in a student fair to introduce linux
[20:07] <M1DLG> Ok to sell the medium not the data on it though
[20:08] <waraqa> M1DLG: That's true
[20:08] <M1DLG> then give it away.studens arnt rich
[20:08] <Arvind> hi
[20:08] <M1DLG> and 100 cd's arn't going to break the bank
[20:08] <KI4RO> Who will pay for the CDs?
[20:08] <waraqa> KI4RO: me
[20:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> waraqa: one of the major pulls of linux is its *free*
[20:08] <waraqa> M1DLG: I will sell it on flash disks too
[20:09] <Darael> waraqa: That's generally considered fine, although M1DLG makes a good point.  At most, thou shouldst be charging ~£0.50.  CDs won't cost more than that.  And if it's got anything to do with the local SU, there's probably a society that'd fund media so it can be given away free.
[20:09] <OerHeks> waraqa, buy them http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone wanna buy some air?
[20:09] <Arvind> hi All i am not abile to install wifi driver on my laptop
[20:09] <Clerk89> hello, newbie question on RDP setup. How do I find the server name of the Windows 7 machine?
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Arvind: what kind of card do you have?
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Darael: Thou shouldst? Imma give away my old 32-bit U/Kbuntu CDS
[20:09] <Darael> waraqa: OerHeks also makes a good point.  Bought CDs will look far better than burned ones.
[20:10] <waraqa> Darael: Right
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: I made a very nice cd with lightscribe, winxp
[20:10] <waraqa> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy this page says that I need to have formal license
[20:10] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, yes, thats what i did, apt-get autoremove and then i run apt-get -f install .. still the same happens
[20:10] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: Nevertheless, in the general case, point stands.
[20:10] <Arvind> broadcom wireless card BCM4311
[20:10] <Darael> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, "thou shouldst".  Singular/plural distinction in the second person is useful.  The T-V distinction is not.
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: good, now paste the outcome without all the bs, k?
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> waraqa: So what you might do is burn Ubuntu for free, but sell DVDs on the side.
[20:11] <Darael> SonikkuAmerica: Ooh, that's a good one.
[20:11] <serp_> of course it's ok to sell an ubuntu disc?
[20:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok is relative
[20:11] <Clerk89> RDP Question... anyone?
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> I would be sorely irritated to find someone selling ubuntu. I would be sure to point out it can be gained free online to all who approach.
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Clerk89: wish I could help you
[20:12] <serp_> ntzrmtthihu777: why would you be irritated? it's in their right to do so
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Why I switched from Windows, for one
[20:12] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, what do you mean without all the bs? which part are you concidering to be bs?
[20:12] <ghost562> ntzrmtthihu777: it worked! thanks for the help
[20:12] <Okitain> waraqa: there is a contact link right there.
[20:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: all the packages that could be cleaned.
[20:13] <Okitain> Clerk89: probably you should ask MSDN.
[20:13] <ghost562> !msdn
[20:13] <nameless`> Arvind: this one is well supported http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers
[20:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> ghost562: np man, lol. I did this to my home partition when I installed pinguy over my precise, in order to preserve my files
[20:13] <ghost562> ah, got it.
[20:14] <ghost562> yeah i booted up and saw it on the bar, so it works
[20:14] <Darael> waraqa: The Trademark Policy says that the trademarks can be used for community advocacy so long as there is no commercial intent.  What that *means* is that as long as the price is a reasonable one for the *medium*, and not the *software*, it's OK.  It's the usual way in the FOSS world.  Covering the cost of distribution is acceptable.  Making profit is not.
[20:14] <Clerk89> isn't there a terminal command to list the server names on my private network?
[20:14] <nameless`> Clerk89: server names ?
[20:14] <nameless`> Clerk89: you can browse the bonjour announce with avahi-discover
[20:15] <nameless`> as for a command line interface hmm
[20:15] <waraqa> Darael: I need an authorization because I will participate in a competiton which require that
[20:15] <Ienpw_III> can someone help me figure out where to install grub with this setup? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=TGB8Td8y
[20:15] <waraqa> Darael: On of the regulations is: It is not permitted to sell counterfeit or fake products, or those bearing a registered trademark without the prior consent of the trademark owner
[20:15] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5583261/ ?
[20:16] <Okitain> waraqa: https://forms.canonical.com/trademark/
[20:16] <waraqa> Okitain: Thanks
[20:16] <Arvind> hello every one i need help regarding wifi driver as Ubuntu 12.10 is not detecting my card
[20:16] <lesshaste> can someone explain /etc/environment please? what exactly is it for?
[20:17] <Arvind> and i have installed my driver
[20:17] <Clerk89> Avahi does not show windows machines
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: Let me guess: flashplugin-installer won't get the latest version?
[20:17] <atdiehm> is there an appropriate channel for trying to fsck an xp drive from an ubuntu live cd to fix a bad superblock?  I'm aware this won't the the appropriate channel...
[20:17] <Arvind> i need help as i am new to Ubuntu swap from win 7
[20:17] <nameless`> Arvind: download the latest tarball of linuxwireless, extract, scripts/select-driver b43, make, scripts/unload, make install, modprobe b43
[20:17] <Clerk89> anyone using Remmina?
[20:17] <Riktol2> hi I was wondering how to change the display properties on ubuntu 12.04, specifically the contrast and brightness settings
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Arvind: What Wi-Fi card is it?
[20:18] <nameless`> Arvind: compat-wireless
[20:18] <lesshaste> SonikkuAmerica, ? is that for me?
[20:18] <ghost562> riktol2, go to the settings menui
[20:18] <ghost562> riktol2, then there will be an option for brightness and so on
[20:18] <Okitain> Riktol2: most likely it is all in the monitor itself.
[20:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: you are using ruby?
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: There's a bug report that says the flashplugin-installer is broken because of problems involving sudo and /etc/environment.
[20:18] <nameless`> Arvind: the project has been renamed compat-drivers
[20:18] <nameless`> https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/backports/stable/v3.8/
[20:19] <lesshaste> SonikkuAmerica, oh.. no not me
[20:19] <Darael> Riktol2: Top-right, system settings, Brightness/contrast (on a laptop); use the monitor's builtin settings (on a desktop)
[20:19] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, yes, i use ruby to run redmine project manager.. its installed from ports
[20:19] <Arvind> i am using lenovo 3000N100
[20:19] <g0tcha> i mean from the repos
[20:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm
 can someone explain /etc/environment please? what exactly is it for? <<< I beg to differ
[20:20] <lesshaste> ? what are you disagreeing about?
[20:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: would it be too much of a problem to remove it and re-install?
[20:20] <Darael> g0tcha: Longtime bsd-user, by any chance?
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: /etc/environment has all the global environment variables in it.
[20:20] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, hmm i guess i can do that as long as all dependencies are installed again
[20:21] <ghost562> how can i hide the xxx has joined ubuntu messages on xchat?
[20:21] <lesshaste> SonikkuAmerica, ok
[20:21] <g0tcha> Darael, i started with freebsd a long time ago heheh
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: I had wondered if you'd read that bug report
[20:21] <g0tcha> the word "ports" sounds more familiar to me then "repositories"
[20:21] <Riktol2> Darael: I have a brightness and lock setting there, but it only has settings for locking and turning off the screen
[20:21] <lesshaste> SonikkuAmerica, right.. no not me
[20:22] <Darael> Riktol2: 's odd.  Mine definitely has a brightness setting.  Well, it does on my laptop.
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> lesshaste: oh
[20:22] <mkgyre> I have two separate issues that are driving me nuts!
[20:22] <mkgyre> One is my laptop which keeps dropping wifi
[20:22] <ghost562> how can i hide the xxx has joined ubuntu messages on xchat?
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: seems so
[20:23] <mkgyre> the other is my bluetooth keyboard which keeps dropping on my desktop
[20:23] <g0tcha> ntzrmtthihu777, so you want me to uninstall ruby and then reinstall it again?
[20:23] <Clerk89> is anyone familiar with using Remminia Remote Desktop on 12.10?
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> ruby bundler, all da stuff that gave you greif
[20:23] <mkgyre> I am a noob to ubuntu and am desprate for help
[20:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0tcha: and I would reccomend using rvm to keep things clean from now on
[20:24] <Riktol2> Darael: I thought so as well, the closest I have is a thing for colour settings which looks way too complicated
[20:24] <mkgyre> can anyone point me in the right direciton?
[20:25] <mkgyre> Bluetooth is disconnecting on ubuntu 12.04 - any ideas?
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> mkgyre: remona, right?
[20:25] <mkgyre> sorry?
[20:25] <mkgyre> remona?
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> my badd, wrong person
[20:26] <mkgyre> noob needing help!  Have wifi and bluetooth issues
[20:26] <Darael> !patience | mkgyre
[20:27] <mkgyre> will do...thanks ubottu
[20:27] <mkgyre> My Rocketfish bluetooth keyboard keeps dropping off and I cannot get it back without a restart of the PC.  Ideas?
[20:27] <Darael> mkgyre: Helpful though it may be, ubottu is only a bot and probably does not properly appreciate thy gratitude.
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> mkgyre: lets deal with wifi first.
[20:28] <mkgyre> HA!  Told you I was a noob!
[20:28] <mkgyre> ok.  That one I have battled for a while
[20:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> wrong command
[20:28] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: For reference: 20:28:21 < mkgyre> ok.  That one I have battled for a while
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: huh?
[20:29] <Darael> ntzrmtthihu777: That was while thou wert gone.  Since thou hadst just engaged with mkgyre, I thought it might be useful.
[20:29] <oldude67> mkgyre, try putting the name of the person you are talking to first, it will highlight the message for them.
[20:30] <fire> can i convert my existing ubuntu machine into a live cd with all of the systemwide configration as it is ?
[20:30] <Darael> !tab | mkgyre - this will make oldude67's suggestion easier:
[20:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: thank ye, kind sir
[20:30] <Clerk89> okay, easier question here... what command to list the ip addresses for items on a lan?
[20:30] <mkgyre> ntzrmtthihu777: better?
[20:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> nice
[20:30] <mkgyre> perfect...thanks for the noob help!
[20:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Clerk89:  infconfig -a
[20:30] <mkgyre> ntzrmtthihu777: learning quickly!
[20:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> mkgyre: what kind of wifi card do you have
[20:30] <Darael> Clerk89: ifconfig -a, or (more recently), ip addr
[20:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Clerk89: * ifconfig -a
[20:31] <mkgyre> realtek I believe
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo ifconfig
[20:31] <mkgyre> ntzrmtthihu777: sorry...realtek I believe
[20:31] <Darael> SonikkuAmerica: I thought we were supposed to be using `ip` these days :P
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> tell me the output
[20:31] <Almacira> can any one here help to how video file with ffmpeg and ffserver under ubuntu ?
[20:31] <fire> can i convert my existing ubuntu machine into a live cd with all of the systemwide configration as it is ?
[20:31] <Darael> !anyone | Almacira
[20:31] <mkgyre> ntzrmtthihu777: any way to check for sure using terminal?
[20:31] <mkgyre> ntzrmtthihu777: I have you pulled up in a private chat...would that be more productive?
[20:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> mkgyre: sudo ifconfig should give some info, as well as lspci
[20:32] <Darael> fire: From memory, that's a right pain to do.  What's the actual objective?
[20:32] <Almacira> sorry :(
[20:32] <Okitain> !details
[20:32] <Okitain> !gq
[20:32] <Darael> mkgyre: We like to do things in-channel here, where possible (though for large pastes, see !pastebin) so that other people can chime in if someone says something ridiculous.  And also so other people can learn from what happens.
[20:32] <Okitain> !poll
[20:33] <Almacira>  i need help to stream a recoreded events i filmed with my canon t4i with ffmpeg and ffserver
[20:33] <Almacira> i m in Windows 8 as host machine and ffserver is installed in my ec2 ubuntu server
[20:33] <Darael> Okitain: I'm not clear if th'art telling someone something, or just playing with the bot, but in case of the latter, it responds to PM as well.
[20:33] <fire> Darael: currently i have installed and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I have configured according to my needs. Now i have to implement the same exact machines on multiple machines. This is for training of school childrens regarding linux/Ubuntu
[20:34] <Okitain> Darael: ooh, I see.
[20:34] <Okitain> Thought it responded to pm if with no arguments.
[20:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: very true, very true.
[20:34] <Darael> fire: Ah.  Now, that's different.  If all the machines are the same, just image the disk.  That's easily the most elegant way.
[20:34] <fire> Darael: i don't want to setup up each of the machine and install all the aplications and configure it from scratch.
[20:34] <Clerk89> ntzrmtthihu777: ifconfig shows my ip... i'm looking for a way to find the ip of a device showing up in a workgroup/lan
[20:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Darael: I am usually a better one on one teacher, though
[20:35] <fire> Darael: no all the machines are not same..
[20:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Clerk89: I was not speaking to you, sorry bout that
[20:35] <fire> Darael: so i want to convert my existing installation into live cd and install it over other machines.
[20:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> fire: remastersys
[20:37] <Okitain> remastersys, fire?
[20:37] <Darael> !info remastersys | fire
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> O.o
[20:37] <Okitain> Nice nick, by the way.
[20:38] <Darael> fire: I had forgotten remastersys.  Okitain and ntzrmtthihu777 are correct.  http://www.remastersys.com/ is what th'art looking for (though a CD is likely to be too small.  Think DVD instead, or large USB key).
[20:38] <Okitain> Darael: it's got its own repo.
[20:39] <fire> will remastersys will save all my configration and packages that i have installed correct ?
[20:39] <Darael> Okitain: Fair enough.  Haven't really used it in a *long* time.
[20:39] <fire> will* sorry for the typo
[20:39] <Darael> fire: That's the idea, yes.
[20:40] <fire> Darael: cool :)
[20:41] <dgtfeargr> Greetings from the Greek Ubuntu Community
[20:41] <Okitain> fire, you could also use dpkg -l >file.txt
[20:41] <ivali> Ubuntu 13.04 freezes after 5 mins of idle. *completely freeze*
[20:41] <ivali> How can i debug this?
[20:41] <Flannel> ivali: #ubuntu+1
[20:41] <ivali> ty
[20:43] <bla> Hello.
[20:43] <fire> Okitain: that's cool . it shows all the available packages right ?
[20:43] <Okitain> yep.
[20:43] <fire> :)
[20:44] <Okitain> There was a tool in Mint that did it for you, but I don't care much for it.
[20:44] <Darael> fire: Technically speaking it shows all *installed* packages (all *available* packages would mean all those packages that one can get from the currently-active repos).  But yes.
[20:44] <fire> Darael: ok
[20:45] <bla> Anybody uses Ubuntu on Nexus7? How usable is this setup? I'm looking for a tablet for a Linux geek...
[20:45] <iceroot> Darael: fire its showing all packages which dpkg handles since the installation, this means, installed, removed, unconfigured, failed
[20:45] <ari-_-e> so it turns out that my friend was using a copy of Raring - that's probably why he was having so much trouble
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> bla: #ubuntu-touch
[20:45] <Okitain> bla: strictly beta, you know it.
[20:45] <ari-_-e> this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ offers 13.04 as an option, for some reason
[20:45] <optimup> hello, anyone have any experience installning bumblebee-nvidia?
[20:45] <ari-_-e> does anybody know the person who runs this website?
[20:45] <bla> SonikkuAmerica, thanks, will ask there for more.
[20:46] <ari-_-e> the pendrivelinux site?
[20:46] <iceroot> !anyone | optimup
[20:46] <Okitain> no, why?
[20:46] <ari-_-e> because they really should not have 13.04 as an option
[20:46] <iceroot> ari-_-e: its offtopic here and 13.04 goes to #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <ari-_-e> uh ok
[20:47] <ivali> ari-_-e. You can't use Universall USB inst. to install 13.04.
[20:47] <ari-_-e> my question isn't really about 13.04, it's more about the pendrivelinux site
[20:47] <ari-_-e> ivali: huh?
[20:47] <davis776> hello, any way to create link to .jar file on desktop?
[20:47] <nyuszika7h> hi, I've installed ambiance-lime from the noobslab/themes ppa, but it's not listed even after a relog
[20:47] <iceroot> ari-_-e: and the website is offtopic here
[20:48] <ari-_-e> ivali: 13.04 is in the list on that website?
[20:48] <ari-_-e> iceroot: I disagree - it is linked to directly from this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows page
[20:48] <iceroot> ari-_-e: 13.04 is offtopic here
[20:49] <ari-_-e> iceroot: again, my question is not about 13.04
[20:49] <iceroot> ari-_-e: and its not a technical support question
[20:49] <iceroot> ari-_-e: so its offtopic in this channel
[20:49] <ivali> ari-_-e. Ubuntu 13.04 can't be installed using that software even if it's on the list. They rename vmlinuz to vmlinuz.efi for some reason.
[20:49] <Darael> iceroot: Good point.    Running some random .jar as root?  Art *insane*?
[20:51] <Okitain> Wat.
[20:52] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: please dont suggest something like that
[20:52] <Darael> davis776: Do what Okitain said.  Do not do what SonikkuAmerica said, unless thou hast a *very* good reason.
[20:52] <iceroot> davis776: you want a simple symlink from a file to the desktop?
[20:53] <davis776> iceroot, that doest work for me, but this is best way for me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1998032&p=12002771#post12002771
[20:53] <ubuntuuser> hello, some seconds after i connect with my wifi i dont get packets anymore. first every thing is fine and after some traffic i cant reach the network. other clients in the same network dont have any problems. and this box was fine for many month. and this problem started suddenly a few days ago.
[20:53] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: Oops... you're right...
[20:54] <darkhalo117> Would dd work to clone a win 8 hard disk? The tools I have can only see an empty hard disk due to secure boot :(
[20:54] <Googol30> I"m pretty sure this is a stupid question, but I would rather not overwrite directories going off of assumptions:  How do I move all the files from a folder up a directory?
[20:54] <iceroot> darkhalo117: dd will create an excact copy of a partition/device
[20:55] <Googol30> I'm not using a GUI, by the way.
[20:55] <simpleuser> MysticalBurrito[, you said you use cache from opera to download dailymotion
[20:55] <simpleuser> how do you do this ?
[20:55] <ubuntuuser> some one has an idea where to start at?
[20:55] <Googol30> I've tried "mv ./ ../" but that doesn't work as expected.
[20:55] <iceroot> Googol30: mv * ../ will move all files one directory above
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> That error being committed, what is the correct way to execute a shell script for any reason?
[20:55] <iceroot> Googol30: without hidden files
[20:55] <Android001> Hi - I get a "disconnected from plymouth" error when booting and no gui. I'm talking from irssi in a tty right now - could anyone please help me?
[20:55] <darkhalo117> iceroot: thanks
[20:55] <ikonia> Googol30: you can't move a directory you are in (.)
[20:56] <Darael> darkhalo117: dd should work to clone *anything*, pretty much, as long as the destination media is at least as large as the source.
[20:56] <darkhalo117> Cool thanks Darael
[20:56] <Darael> ikonia: Not to mention that moving . to .. would leave it precisely where it is!
[20:56] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: you should not use bash scriptname, you should make the script executable (chmod +x script) and run it with ./script
[20:56] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: and never run sudo when not needed
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: Thanks. *is so embarrassed*
[20:57] <Darael> darkhalo117: note that if the destination disk is any larger than the source one, the difference in space will be unused and some fiddling with the partitions will be necessary to render it usable.
[20:57] <Googol30> I was expecting "mv ./ ../" to move all of the files up, and leave the folder they were in where it was, empty.
[20:57] <Android001> Hi - I get a "disconnected from plymouth" error when booting and no gui. I'm talking from irssi in a tty right now - could anyone please help me?
[20:57] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: and you should always use shebangs in your script, that is the first line like #!/bin/env bash   this tells the kernel what interptreter is needed to run the script
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: OK
[20:58] <Darael> Googol30: Ah, no.  Needs to be "./*", meaning every file in this folter.  ./ is a reference to the current directory, nothing more.
[20:58] <Darael> Googol30: In most contexts, ./ is, in fact, identical to . (as a file reference).
[20:59]  * Android001 prods Pulser - you around?
[20:59] <Android001> Hi - I get a "disconnected from plymouth" error when booting and no gui. I'm talking from irssi in a tty right now - could anyone please help me?
[20:59] <boze> I have sublime text to where I can run it from terminal, and I have it to where you can right click a file in nautilus and its in the context menu to open a file with sublime text, but for some reason its not in the list of programs to set as a default. How do I get it on that list or set it to the default editor?
[20:59] <Darael> iceroot: I think bash being in /bin is pretty reliable.  #!/bin/bash      is reasonably standard.
[20:59] <iceroot> Darael: not on all systems
[21:00] <iceroot> Darael: there are systems where bash is not in /bin/bash but /bin/env is always there
[21:00] <darkhalo117> Darael: I plan on resizing with gparted, then doing an exact copy. If it will let me.
[21:00] <iceroot> darkhalo117: but on GNU/Linux you are right, its in /bin/bash
[21:00] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[21:00] <Darael> iceroot: True, but if we're going for *properly* portable, we should be writing for /bin/sh compatibility anyway.
[21:00] <styler2go> how can i stop a service if it tells me cannot allocate memory?
[21:01] <ShapeShifter499> how do I have a command ran everytime I login via ssh, terminal, tty, etc?   I'd like vnstat to show my current internet useage
[21:01] <Googol30> Ok, thanks.  I didn't want to overwrite anything, and wasn't 100% sure what doing "mv * ../" would do, so I came here.  Just needed to do "mv ./* ../".
[21:01] <iceroot> Darael: ls -l /bin/sh
[21:01] <iceroot> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jul  9  2012 /bin/sh -> dash
[21:01] <iceroot> Darael: :) that you will find only on debian and ubuntu (imo)
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> styler2go:  sudo service $SERVICE stop  or  sudo stop $SERVICE
[21:01] <Darael> iceroot: Yes, but the point is it should be Bourne compatible on just about any system.
[21:01] <bekks> Darael: Which it isnt, fully, on all systems.
[21:01] <styler2go> now my server knocked out i think... cant access it via ssh
[21:01] <iceroot> Darael: POSIX comatible
[21:02] <Darael> iceroot: What am I talking about?  I mean POSIX-compliant.
[21:02] <iceroot> Darael: :)
[21:02] <bekks> styler2go: Which was the service you stopped?
[21:02] <simpleuser> MysticalBurrito[, cause i've got several mp4 in the list, all less than 2mb
[21:02] <Darael> Googol30: In that context, "*" is the same as "./*".  Just for future reference.
[21:04] <iceroot> Googol30: you should use ./* instead of * because when you have a file called "--filename.txt" you will do mv --filename.txt instead of mv ./filename.txt and the first one will fail
[21:04] <SonikkuAmerica> styler2go: !! <bekks> styler2go: Which was the service you stopped?
[21:04] <Q17> hi whats the best domain lookup site
[21:04] <Darael> iceroot: Good should, although ITTM ./--filename.txt
[21:04] <Darael> !best | Q17
[21:05] <Googol30> iceroot:  Wouldn't you want to do "mv ./--filename.txt"?
[21:05] <Darael> Googol30: Yes.  One would.  Just a small typo on iceroot's part, I think.
[21:05] <iceroot> Googol30: of course, i was just missing the -- in my second example
[21:06] <Riktol2> Hmm I've done a little reading on the ubuntu forums, do I need to be using proprietry drivers to be able to change screen properties like contrast and brightness?
[21:06] <Googol30> Just making sure, as in running a command, one byte out of place or missing will do something completely different.
[21:07] <iceroot> Googol30: yes thats always good to make sure and understand what you are doing
[21:07] <Q17> uboyy
[21:07] <Darael> Googol30: Yup, it's well worth asking.  If in doubt, always ask.  Occasionally someone will get annoyed by the question, but that's their problem.  Never a problem in here.
[21:08] <Q17> ubottu: 1 that pulls up most info bout a website
[21:08] <Q17> lol
[21:08] <Darael> Q17: Offtopic, and lacking useful context for us to be able to help.    Try running testdisk over it (it's in the repos).
[21:11] <darkhalo117> While we are on the subject. Any decent droid irc apps?
[21:11] <Darael> darkhalo117: the actual drive may be OK, but at the least the partition table's got changed.
[21:11] <Darael> darkhalo117: I wouldn't know, myself.  I stick to xabber for IM, although occasionally I'll use an IRC transport to get on IRC.
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Arrivederci!
[21:12] <Darael> Q17: For their mail server, it's a simple matter of `dig example.net mx`
[21:13] <darkhalo117> Windows 8 has at least 5 partitions. This is going to take a while :(
[21:13] <Darael> Q17: Most of these things can be discovered with dig, whois, and a couple of other tools.  No need for a site.  I say again:  what's the *actual* objective.
[21:13] <Jhirley_> hello folks,  how would I be able to shorten $foo="variable" into just the first 1 char ie $foo2="va" ?
[21:13] <Darael> darkhalo117: testdisk should pick them all up at once, but it'll take a while on a disk that's large enough.
[21:14] <darkhalo117> !dd
[21:16] <darkhalo117> Darael: looks like the drive is fine but I just have to learn a little more about dd to transfer the 4 partitions to the unpartitioned ssd
[21:16] <zimzum_> so now i wonder about xchat.....i'll be able to link this chat to it
[21:16] <Jhirley_> check out clonezilla
[21:17] <darkhalo117> Jhirley_: thnx
[21:17] <Googol30> By the way, is there a simpler way to move a group of files from one directory to another than running "mv filename.txt folder" for each file?  Would I simply enclose all of the filenames in quotes?
[21:17] <Darael> Googol30: stick as many files as thou wilt before the destination.  That's one way.
[21:18] <darkhalo117> The odd thing is that kingston includes a disk cloning cd but it doesn't even recognize anything on the original hdd
[21:18] <ghost562> hai
[21:19] <Googol30> So I can include as many files as I want in a mv command, and the last argument must be where I want to move all of these files to?
[21:19] <zimzum_> then i don't have to log into this site ??
[21:19] <darkhalo117> I thought mv -vf moves all of the files in a directory as well?
[21:20] <darkhalo117> Could be wrong
[21:20] <Googol30> I'm now trying to move only select files into a directory, and not all files out of one.
[21:21] <ikonia> Googol30: why don't you use the gui if you are struggling with the command line
[21:21] <PlastikSpork> I am trying to access my Windows shares over a workgroup.  When I Browse Network -> Windows Network -> and then click on WORKGROUP I get the following error:  Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list form server.  I installed samba.
[21:21] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: probably not set to browsable
[21:21] <PlastikSpork> how do I fix this
[21:22] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: set your samba servers shares to "browseable"
[21:23] <ghost562> how can i load uberscript onto xchat?
[21:23] <ikonia> ghost562: the xchat channel can help with detailed xchat info
[21:23] <Googol30> ikonia: I've been running a couple servers for slightly over 3 months purely off of the command line, and normally I would just experiment with commands to see what they do, but now working with files I can't afford to lose, I came here to make sure what I'm running will do what I think it will do.
[21:24] <ikonia> Googol30: ok, moving files is pretty basic
[21:24] <KxTwo> Hey guys, I was in here the other day because I was having problems getting an install of 12.04 to boot.  The conclusion from everyone was an issue with EFI and no one knew how to fix it.  I was just thinking though, a few months ago I had no problem booting 12.10 on the same machine so it has to be something else?
[21:24] <ikonia> Googol30: so if you are struggling with that, I'd strongly suggest using the gui
[21:24] <ikonia> KxTwo: it doesn't have to be something else
[21:24] <darkhalo117> You should be able to disable efi in bios
[21:24] <KxTwo> ikonia, well I dont understand why an install fo 12.10 boots fine but no matter what I do I cant boot 12.04
[21:25] <KxTwo> darkhalo117, I looked everyone on his laptop and could find no such options
[21:25] <ikonia> KxTwo: because it's a later version, so any incompatabilities may have been fixed ( for example )
[21:25] <captain_cook1> hi
[21:25] <Kelorin> i'm having a problem getting ubuntu to access my 160gig external usb to ide hard drive.
[21:25] <KxTwo> ikonia, 12.04 is lts
[21:25] <ikonia> KxTwo: so ?
[21:25] <captain_cook1> problem: wlan does work but lan with lan cable not. why?
[21:26] <Googol30> ikonia: My first question here stated I knew the question was stupid and obvious, and as I've just said, I've been running without major problems for a couple months.
[21:26] <KxTwo> that makes no sense, why would 12.10 have a problem fixed but not the LTS version
[21:26] <ikonia> KxTwo: because 12.10 is built on later technologies
[21:27] <ikonia> Googol30: ok....and ?
[21:27] <KxTwo> honestly if that was the case then I would probably stop using lts versions as I see no benefit to them
[21:27] <ikonia> KxTwo: then you don't understand the LTS process
[21:27] <Googol30> ikonia: Also, running something in the range of 3 servers, I don't want to slow the system down by using a GUI.
[21:27] <KxTwo> if you say so
[21:27] <ikonia> Googol30: why would a gui slow it down ?
[21:27] <KxTwo> I was specifically told, in here, that 12.04 was the better choice and more stable
[21:27] <ikonia> KxTwo: correct
[21:28] <harrisr> when i open a docx file in libre that has pictures the formatting is messed up
[21:28] <ikonia> KxTwo: it has a support period of 5 years and is built on older more "trusted/tested" technology versions, hence why people feel it is more stable
[21:28] <KxTwo> makes no sense that .10 would boot efi but not .04 but Ill tell him to try and put 10 on again
[21:29] <ikonia> KxTwo: it makes perfect sense, if the later technology of 12.10 has support for the hardware you need
[21:29] <KxTwo> hardware that is older than both distros
[21:29] <darkhalo117> I will honestly say flash works a lot better when I was running 12.04. When I upgraded, refresh rate on the video dropped and I no longer get audio from flash alone. Any help?
[21:29] <ikonia> KxTwo: that makes no different, it doesn't mean a solution existed at 12.04 time period
[21:30] <Googol30> ikonia: A GUI would take up RAM to display, and I've set up a Minecraft server, local DNS server, Web server, and OpenSSH server without a problem, so I would rather stick to the command line if I don't need anything more.
[21:31] <ikonia> Googol30: then I suggest researching the "mv" command in more detail and trying to pickup better basic shell interaction skills before trying to progress further
[21:31] <darkhalo117> I found that there are great tutorials on youtube
[21:31] <Darael> captain_cook1: Probably a driver issue.  It's unusual, that way around, but not unheard of.  Not familiar with it, myself, but someone in here probably is.
[21:32] <Googol30> ikonia: Running "info mv" and "man mv" were too vague to run off of, so I came here as a quick reference.
[21:32] <ikonia> Googol30: man mv is not vague it's very detiled
[21:33] <ikonia> detailed even
[21:33] <Jhirley_> in a bash script, how would I be able to shorten $foo="variable" into just the first 2 char ie $foo2="va" ?
[21:33] <Darael> KxTwo: I should point out that the numbers are release dates, more than version numbers, so 12.10 is six months newer than 12.04.  It therefore makes *perfect* sense that 12.10 has better EFI support.
[21:33] <ghost562> !ot
[21:34] <Darael> ghost562: Relevance?  For just playing with the bot, I suggest taking it to PM.  It'll respond just as well there.
[21:35] <Googol30> ikonia: If I bothered you, I'm sorry for my occasional incompetence, but I don't want to screw up my system and run an unnecessary backup if all I need to do is visit a place I use as a point of reference, and ask a question, however dumb it may seem.
[21:35] <ikonia> Googol30: you've not bothered me in the slightest.
[21:35] <PlastikSpork> ikonia, I don't understand by what you mean when you said to make same shares browse-able.  I am trying to access my windows shared folder... I am not trying to access my samba shared folder from a windows machine.
[21:36] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: ahh, my apologies, I had you back to front
[21:36] <indigo_glow> i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize this kindle fire. can someone help me?
[21:36] <ikonia> indigo_glow: recognise it in what way ?
[21:36] <indigo_glow> ikonia, i want to mount the device - but i can't even get it to show up
[21:36] <Googol30> ikonia: Just explaining myself is all...
[21:36] <athlon1> hello, can any tell me where can I download mozilla webmaker? Thanks
[21:36] <ikonia> indigo_glow: does it support mass storage mode ?
[21:37] <ikonia> athlon1: we are not a yellow pages of the internet
[21:37] <Googol30> athlon1: I'm sure a Google search can help.
[21:37] <PlastikSpork> I get error "Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list server" when i click on WORKGOUP when trying to access my window shared drives
[21:38] <bloomingphoen1x> I'm experiencing an issue with 12.10 where the login screen loops back to itself.  Seemingly, there is an issue where X server crashes.  I've gone through a few forums with no luck trying the suggestions.  Does anyone have any ideas?  Want more details?
[21:38] <indigo_glow> ikonia, i don't think it has an option for that in the menu..
[21:38] <harrisr> when i open a docx file that has pictures in libre office the formatting is messed up
[21:38] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: have you configured your ubuntu machine to participate in the same work group
[21:38] <indigo_glow> software version 6.3.1
[21:38] <athlon1> Sorry. I've looking for many places... Thanks
[21:38] <ikonia> indigo_glow: it's normally a default function
[21:38] <PlastikSpork> yes i check then in the config file
[21:38] <PlastikSpork> my workgroup name is WORKGROUP and that is what is in the file
[21:38] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: ask the guys in ##windows what part of windows/service offers up the shares list
[21:39] <indigo_glow> ikonia, when i go into settings there is no "storage" option in the menu
[21:39] <ikonia> indigo_glow: there doesn't have to be, most devices would just "do it" if it supports it
[21:40] <jackarg> help! I just installed my nvidia graphics driver and now unity has turned to unity 2D!
[21:40] <Darael> bloomingphoen1x: I can't help much myself, but I suspect whoever can will want a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - might as well get it pastebinned.
[21:41] <harrisr> if anyone needs help transfering files from one computer to another go to channel #harrisr
[21:41] <ikonia> harrisr: what ?
[21:41] <PlastikSpork> I just switched over from the windows installed version of Ubuntu to the regular installed version of ubuntu and removed windows.  I was able to browse my windows network just fine with the windows install ubuntu
[21:41] <ikonia> harrisr: no-one has asked for help with that, so please don't tell people to randomly join your channel
[21:41] <harrisr> go to #harrisr and ill tell you
[21:42] <indigo_glow> ikonia, well i need to mount the device so that i can root it .. i know its possible because ive read tons of tuts and watched many videos.. people were able to root it on windows linux and mac
[21:42] <ikonia> harrisr: please don't do that
[21:42] <harrisr> ok
[21:42] <indigo_glow> but most of the tuts ive read leave out the part on how to get the OS to recognize the device
[21:42] <indigo_glow> they dont give you the drivers
[21:42] <ikonia> indigo_glow: does the windows platform use any specific software ?
[21:42] <harrisr> does anyone know a lot about libre
[21:42] <indigo_glow> i have a windows 7 computer here as well and i have the drivers for that but they don't work
[21:43] <indigo_glow> ikonia, ive tried two different sets of drivers but device manager still says unknown device
[21:44] <ikonia> indigo_glow: does the windows platform use any specific software ?
[21:44] <indigo_glow> ikonia, hang on ill link you to what i used
[21:44] <ikonia> indigo_glow: don't need a link
[21:44] <ikonia> indigo_glow: just want to know if the windows platfor, uses specific software to do what you want
[21:45] <Darael> !anyone | harrisr
[21:46] <Darael> ikonia: A little DDGing suggests that most of them involve downloading one zip archive or another, and that those which claim to work on linux include the necessary files for more than one OS.
[21:46] <ikonia> Darael: thank you, interesting, so that suggests the fire should be a mass storage device to be able to be mounted
[21:46] <harrisr> Darael, when i open a docx file that has pictures in libre office the formatting is messed up
[21:47] <jackarg> can someone help please I am stuck in ubuntu 2D after installing the lastest graphic drivers
[21:47] <Darael> harrisr: Don't know myself, but seems quite likely someone will.
[21:47] <captain_cook1> Darael: thank you.. can anyone please help? up to now i was used that linux recognizes interfaces automatically.
[21:47] <indigo_glow> ikonia, it does, i'm trying to find it for you
[21:47] <harrisr> i asked yesterday 20 times and today 10\
[21:47] <PlastikSpork> ikonia:  I am able to gain access to my windows shares via smb://<IP_ADDRESS> -> which is the ip of my windows server
[21:48] <Darael> ikonia: The instructions I read don't even guarantee that:  They involve running some script or other, but don't say anything about copying files directly to the device.
[21:49] <indigo_glow> ikonia, https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/fire/setup.html#step4
[21:49] <Darael> harrisr: Try #libreoffice instead.  That's my advice.
[21:49] <indigo_glow> http://rootkindlefire.com/kindle-fire-root/how-to-root-kindle-fire-6-3-1/
[21:50] <Guest78735> hi boys
[21:52] <lyndsysimon> Hola. I've a rather odd question. I'd have a late-2012 Macbook Pro (pre-Retina), and I'd like to install Ubuntu alongside OSX. I've done dual-boot installs on Windows machines for years, and I'm comfortable in Linux, so that isn't a huge issue. What I'd like to do though, is to have a way to have both OSX and Ubuntu running simultaneously, or at least suspended in such a way I could switch OSes in a couple of seconds. Does
[21:52] <lyndsysimon> such a mechanism exist?
[21:54] <Darael> lyndsysimon: Basically?  Not natively.  With an SSD, one might be able to use hibernation and get the restore time way down, but the easiest way to do what th'art looking for is to use a virtual machine for one of them.  Probably Ubuntu, since the machine in question is a Mac.
[21:54] <indigo_glow> ikonia, may i pm you :)
[21:55] <lyndsysimon> Darael: Oh well. I appreciate it. I may eventually replace my optical drive with an SSD, but not at the moment.
[21:55] <krux> lyndsysimon, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/dual-boot-os-ubuntu look into that but is a year old
[21:56] <fijisun> Hello
[21:56] <lyndsysimon> I'm looking for side projects, and considering mobile development. iOS and Android are on my radar of course, but I'm developing quite a bit of confidence in Ubuntu's push into the mobile market.
[21:56] <rock> hello guys
[21:57] <fijisun> I have USB mount at /media/tor with a folder at /media/tor/music
[21:57] <rock> do you know if possible to let update manager automatically updates without asking user action in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:57] <lyndsysimon> Unity struck me as retarded when it was released, because people were hawking it as "made of Netbooks!". Now that tablets and smartphones are ubiquitous, Ubuntu seems to be in an amazingly good position w/r/t an integrated development platform across many devices.
[21:57] <rock> do you know if possible to let update manager automatically install updates without asking user action in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:57] <gry> rock: hi.
[21:57] <fijisun> But when I call music folder from a script it gives path does not exist
[21:57] <jackarg> PLEASE HELP ive been asking for hours! my screen resolution suddenly turned to 640x480 after installing nvidia drivers and I URGENTLY need this computer for work
[21:58] <indigo_glow> jackarg, reinstall the last known working driver
[21:58] <lyndsysimon> At this point, I consider Ubuntu Phones a more real possibility than Windows 8.
[21:58] <jackarg> indigo_glow how do i do that?
[21:58] <indigo_glow> jackarg, what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[21:59] <zimzum77> sudo apt-get systeminfo install , that is how i got all to work
[21:59] <ghoti> So ... what's the difference between qt4 and gtk20?  Are they different widget sets, different libraries, what?  If I have a choice of building an app using one vs the other, how do I decide which I should pick?
[21:59] <indigo_glow> if you're not sure you can run lsb_release -a from a terminal
[21:59] <jackarg> indigo_glow i have 12.04
[21:59] <gry> rock: Update manager, settings, updates tab.
[21:59] <Darael> lyndsysimon: Thy reasoning is sensible, in my opinion, but as this is a support channel I'm going to prod thee to take such conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <zimzum77> i might have not wrote that right... plz clean that
[21:59] <bravis> so did they do something to compiz cube as it is not in the menu??
[21:59] <gry> rock: Look at its bottom - it has a setting of whether to ask before installing.
[22:00] <lyndsysimon> Thanks. My bad, didn't read the channel rules.
[22:00] <Physicist> Greetings folks... Afternoon!
[22:01] <Darael> bravis: It's an option - of that I'm sure - but it's only available via ccsm and it may require installing extra plugin packages (eg compiz-plugins-extra - there are others, an apt-cache search away) first.
[22:01] <zimzum77> jackarg, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-get-hardware-information-in.html
[22:01] <gry> rock: If you would like to not be asked at all, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/35053/how-do-i-enable-automatic-updates-of-all-packages - install "unattended-upgrades" package and edit its configuration file.
[22:01] <rock> gry, for only security updates it says can install automatically, not for other others
[22:02] <Physicist> In my O.S., the AMDCCCLE does not open.. Will I have to reinstall it?
[22:02] <gry> Yes - that's what my last message is about, rock. :)
[22:02] <Physicist> **O.S. Kubuntu 12.10
[22:02] <knarkill> hello all...
[22:02] <zimzum77> jackarg, that  is what i did and now i totally control all
[22:03] <Physicist> Who will please answer my little question.. It is easy.. I think!!
[22:03] <jackarg> zimzum77 you installed lshw and that's it?
[22:03] <indigo_glow> jackarg, are you using unity?
[22:03] <indigo_glow> just search additonal drivers
[22:04] <rock> gry, thanks  alot , i'll give it shot. thank you very much for answering...keep rocking...
[22:04] <jackarg> indigo_glow yes i'm stuck i'm still also stuck in unity 2D but I just want to get my resolution back first
[22:04] <zimzum77> jackarg,  i install the system info, all the way down the page
[22:04] <indigo_glow> jackarg, what kind of graphics card do you have
[22:04] <HelloWorld321> If I want to get the first 10 lines of all the files in files.txt; is there something like:        head < files.txt
[22:05] <jackarg> indigo_glow i have nvidia geforce and additional drivers does not give anything
[22:05] <indigo_glow> jackarg, what is the exact model number
[22:05] <zimzum77> jackarg, run the system info, it should work, I have complete control over my graphics
[22:06] <Physicist> In my O.S. Kubuntu 12.10, the AMDCCCLE does not open.. Will I have to reinstall it?
[22:06] <zimzum77> jackarg, what kind of puter you have??
[22:06] <jackarg> indigo_glow i'm not sure where it says the exact model
[22:07] <jackarg> zimzum77 I have an acer aspire with nvidia 64 bit running on 12.04
[22:07] <indigo_glow> pastebin me the output of lspci
[22:07] <Physicist> Uau....
[22:08] <Physicist> :(
[22:08] <zimzum77> jackarg, sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[22:08] <jackarg> zimzum77 ok I am in sysinfo now what should I do the nvidia section does not do anything
[22:09] <Physicist> dr_willis: Can you help me?
[22:10] <zimzum77> jackarg,  Dash- additional  drivers
[22:10] <jackarg> zimzum77 "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" and it dosen't give any options
[22:11] <Physicist> In my O.S. Kubuntu 12.10, the AMDCCCLE does not open.. Will I have to reinstall it?
[22:11] <zimzum77> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[22:11] <zimzum77> you might hve to go to bios screen, so try ^first
[22:11] <kinj> hello all I am unable to create a persistent ubuntu 12.10 64bit using on efi system
[22:11] <bloomingphoen1x> I'm having an issue with the login screen looping in ubuntu 12.10,  Can anyone assist me?  Likely, I'll need to reinstall as nothing I've tried works
[22:13] <n1nj4dude> Im having trouble xrandr and receiving badmatch error when trying to addmode on what should be a supported resolution
[22:13] <jackarg> zimzum77 what next?
[22:13] <kinj> persistent usb for ubuntu 12.10 64 bit version on a uefi system, I tried unetbootin with persistence of 1.5 gb but it doesnt work
[22:13]  * un1xfreak triptaline anyone??
[22:13]  * un1xfreak sells dmt
[22:13] <Physicist> bloomingphoen1x: I already did that same freaky problem... I did the reinstallation of the drivers.. You're must do it..
[22:13] <darkhalo117> /
[22:14] <PlastikSpork> Does anybody know how to scroll up in Xchat to see older posts?
[22:14] <darkhalo117> un1xfreak: really?
[22:14] <zimzum77> jackarg, did you go to the last page?/
[22:14] <jackarg> yes but i don't think it helps
[22:14] <jackarg> hold on lemme rea
[22:14] <jackarg> d
[22:14] <harrisr> when i open a docx file that has pictures in libre office the formatting is messed up
[22:15] <n1nj4dude> plastikspork you just scroll with your touchpad or mouse wheel
[22:15] <darkhalo117> harrisr: you have to save as a .doc for it to transfer correctly
[22:15] <n1nj4dude> or if you hover over the little scrollbar indicator to the right it should pop up arrows for you plastikspork
[22:15] <harrisr> darkhalo117,  can we talk at #harrisr
[22:15] <jackarg> zimzum77 the nvidia driver does not appear in the additional drivers app
[22:15] <Physicist> bloomingphoen1x: Pressing F2, you'll be able to make the uninstallation in the text mode..
[22:16] <PlastikSpork> LOL nice... im on a touch pad and i usually use the side scroll bar in the window.
[22:16] <n1nj4dude> Im having trouble xrandr and receiving badmatch error when trying to addmode on what should be a supported resolution
[22:16] <kinj> any idea of creating a persistent usb of ubuntu 12.10?
[22:17] <PlastikSpork> n1nj4dude:  my version of xchat doesnt have the scroll bar
[22:17] <zimzum77> jackarg,  work with this page,i had to turn my card off in bios, but then i can turn it on in the system info panel
[22:17] <crelab> whenever i suspend or reboot my ubuntu 12.10 machine, i have to manually go into my router settings to release the IP for the linux machine in order for it to reconnect to wireless on startup or resume, otherwise it keeps asking for the network password without ever connecting.   anyone have any insight into why this is happening or how i could force release the IP automatically? thanks
[22:17] <zimzum77> jackarg, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[22:17] <Physicist> kinj: unetbootin
[22:17] <jackarg> zimzum77 I don't quite understand but ok
[22:17] <kinj> physicist tried it but doesnt seem to work
[22:17] <n1nj4dude> plastikspork have you tried hovering over the chat window and using your touchpad to scroll?
[22:18] <n1nj4dude> can anyone help me with a xrandr issue feeding back badmatch error?
[22:18] <un1xfreak> do not highlight me
[22:18] <deke111> join #ubuntu
[22:18] <PlastikSpork> Im using the touchpad and that works fine.. thanks.
[22:18] <Physicist> kinj: Try format the pendrive
[22:18] <zimzum77> jackarg,  I'm saying read the last link i sent, that should help
[22:18] <kinj> formatted it fat32
[22:18] <Physicist> humm..
[22:19] <n1nj4dude> plastikspork do you see the little line of color to the right of the chatwindow?
[22:19] <kinj> made a 1.5gb persistence in unetbootin
[22:19] <kinj> but no settings are saved when i restart
[22:19] <PlastikSpork> ikonia: if you are still on thank  for your help... I just set it up so my windows shared drives mount automatically on boot up.
[22:19] <kinj> @physicist
[22:19] <gccster> guys in ubuntu 12.10 in laptop intel i5 with nvidia optimus and Unity window manager the cpu fan runs like crazy i have optirun but compiz cannot run with it what can i do?
[22:19] <PlastikSpork> n1nj4dude:  yup I see..
[22:19] <Physicist> listen to Black Sabbath so..
[22:20] <bloomingphoen1x> Physicist : I'm not sure which drivers you are referring to...
[22:20] <Physicist> bloomingphoen1x: AMD, NVIDIA..
[22:21] <gccster> anybidy can help?
[22:21] <Physicist> bloomingphoen1x: It resolved my problem..
[22:21] <varunendra> kinj: does the live usb boot properly only settings aren't saved ?
[22:21] <bloomingphoen1x> Physicist: got it.  video card driver
[22:21] <kinj> live usb boots ok
[22:22] <kinj> varunendra
[22:22] <n1nj4dude> plastikspork: if you hover on that it should raise arrows for you, as another way to scroll if you dont like using the touchpad. hope that all helps.
[22:22] <Physicist> yep.. ;|
[22:22] <varunendra> kinj: can you edit the boot line during boot-up?
[22:22] <bloomingphoen1x> Physicist:  I can try reinstalling the driver, however, I can't think of when it might have changed.  This didn't start until well after I had upgraded to 12.10.
[22:22] <eutheria> what is the name of the app that allows you to create launchers?
[22:22] <n1nj4dude> anyone think they can help me with a xrandr issue?
[22:23] <kinj> i am using secure boot uefi how can i do it?
[22:23] <jackarg> zimzum77 my resolution is STILL THE SAME!!
[22:24] <zimzum77> jackarg, do you hve the nvidia icon?
[22:24] <Physicist> Exactely.. The same wiht me..
[22:24] <Physicist> with..
[22:24] <jackarg> where? I have the x server settings app but it is not in the additional drivers no
[22:25] <Physicist> bloomingphoen1x: Just reinstall the drivers.. It will fix the problem.
[22:25] <zimzum77> jackarg,  Dash nvidia x server setting...yes?/
[22:25] <PlastikSpork> n1nj4dude: do you have any idea why I can not browse windows shared drives by opening up the file manager and clicking "Browse Network" -> "Windows Network" -> "WORKGROUP" . I get an error: Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list from server.  But when I mount the shared drives on boot up by editing fstab I am able to access them.
[22:25] <jackarg> zimzum77 yes I've had that even before losing the resolution
[22:25] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: did you do what I told you to do ?
[22:25] <kinj> varun
[22:26] <zimzum77> jackarg,  Dash-system info
[22:26] <varunendra> kinj: not sure about how it behaves with uefi, but normally the booting line contains the parameter "persistent" which makes it look for the "casper-rw" file/partition.
[22:26] <PlastikSpork> ikonia: I have no idea what you were asking me to
[22:26] <kinj> casper-rw did got created
[22:26] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: I asked you to join ##windows and get info on what service advertises the shares
[22:27] <jackarg> zimzum77 ok and?
[22:27] <zimzum77> jackarg, you should see the nvidia icon
[22:27] <zimzum77> in that panel
[22:27] <kinj> there is a 1.5gb filesize
[22:27] <jackarg> i do but it leads straight to the x server settings
[22:27] <kinj> of casper-rw
[22:27] <zimzum77> and it says?
[22:28] <varunendra> kinj: so if you can go to edit the boot line in advance boot menu (by pressing any key during boot-up) you should see the parameter "persistent" in the boot line.
[22:28] <jackarg> zimzum77 the x server settings say "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[22:28] <PlastikSpork> ikonia: I'll be right back and get that for you.
[22:29] <varunendra> if it is not there, you can manually add it in the end of the line (or before "splash")
[22:29] <ikonia> PlastikSpork: sadly, I have to
[22:29] <jackarg> zimzum77 and I already did that but it didnt work
[22:29] <kinj> i am right now running this chat using live usb
[22:29] <zimzum77> jackarg,  same thing it said to me. So what i did is went to bios-graphics-switchable or discrete, got to highlight decrete and save
[22:30] <kinj> once i restart i need to install everything again also chat zilla
[22:30] <zimzum77> jackarg,  now i totally control my card
[22:30] <kinj> when it boots there is option of try ubuntu, oem install ....
[22:30] <jackarg> zimzum77: your resolution was down like me and you fixed it that way?
[22:30] <kinj> i use the try ubuntu option
[22:31] <kinj> so just before this menu i press any key and it goes to boot line where i can add persistence
[22:31] <kinj> ??
[22:31] <zimzum77> jackarg, YES  Dude i sat on this shit for 2 days man. Like i said that is how it worked for me
[22:31] <varunendra> kinj: if the "persistent" parameter is already in the boot line, then I guess the uefi thing may be the culprit. I'm not sure how to deal with it regarding persistence. sorry. kinj
[22:31] <kinj> thanks varunendra
[22:31] <jackarg> zimzum77 ok so how do you do it tell me step by step
[22:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> dammit, lost connection
[22:32] <varunendra> for nothing :)
[22:32] <kinj> how to see the bootline
[22:32] <kinj> ??
[22:32] <jackarg> ziumzum77 and if we succeed you deserve a high-five :)
[22:32] <Physicist> zimzum77: lol
[22:33] <kinj> during startup or after the startup
[22:33] <varunendra> by pressing any key during boot up, you should get the advance boot menu, kinj
[22:33] <zimzum77> Physicist, why???
[22:33] <zimzum77> lol
[22:33] <kinj> thanks i am trying and get back to you
[22:33] <varunendra> during - when you see the purple screen
[22:33] <Physicist> heh..
[22:34] <bravis> grr lost the resolution any ideas? maybe drivers?
[22:34] <bravis> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1)
[22:34] <jackarg> zimzum77 can you explain to me how?
[22:35] <zimzum77> jackarg, hang on
[22:35] <jackarg> ok
[22:35] <fellayaboy> hey i have a ati radeon 4200 and ubuntu 12.10  is it safe to install fglrx or the new amd catalyst 13.1 legacy driver from amd.com?
[22:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to get the name of a user you recently queried?
[22:36] <yakeb> hi chat room, i have a acer aspire 3100 with ati radeon express 1100 graphics card, i tried installing the legacy catalyst drivers and now i don't have dual monitor support--only vga out to an external monitor. i would like to either remove the ati drivers and get the default ubuntu 12.10 drivers back or get working catalyst drivers with dual monitor support. does anybody know the commands to accomplish this? thanks in advance
[22:36] <yakeb> ..
[22:37] <fellayaboy> which version yakeb did you use
[22:37] <Physicist> soon..
[22:37] <yakeb> fellayaboy: which version of the drivers?
[22:37] <fellayaboy> yes
[22:38] <Ziber> Where does uprecords-cgi store it's data? I want to reset it.
[22:38] <yakeb> 13.1-legacy, i believe.
[22:40] <jackarg> zimzum77?
[22:40] <zimzum77> hang on
[22:40] <yakeb> i'm not fully certain
[22:41] <Ziber> Nevermind, figured it out.
[22:43] <nightdemon666> ... so, i wish i could help answer the last couple of questions, but i can't.. but instead i too have a question of my own. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS. i noticed that when i log in my user (it loads desktop), then i "switch user" ( from the top right hand corner [this is unity GUI BTW]) i wait.. then it loads my other user desktop... if i want to switcher user back to the first one i logged in from, it doesnt require
[22:43] <yakeb> if i could restore back to the generic drivers that ubuntu used by default, that would be helpful. it worked, but just didn't save display settings on reboot for some reason.
[22:44] <n1nj4dude> can anyone help me with a xrandr resolution error? after trying to --addmode i receive a badmatch error
[22:44] <Degru> nightdemon666: it doesn't require a password?
[22:45] <nightdemon666> yakeb.. i believe you can disable the catalyst driver by black listing it.
[22:45] <Degru> nightdemon666: I think it has something to do with the lock screen prefs
[22:45] <nightdemon666> not after already loggen in no (degru)
[22:45] <indigo_glow> i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize this kindle fire but lsusb returns nothing of relevance
[22:45] <yakeb> nightdemon666: how do i blacklist it?
[22:45] <kostkon> nightdemon666, both users are logged in and both desktops are running at the same time. if you want to close the session for the first user, you have to select the log out option
[22:46] <Degru> indigo_glow: Does your system detect any usb drives and is the kindle in USB storage mode?
[22:46]  * un1xfreak listens ro Radiohead
[22:46] <indigo_glow> Degru, how do i put the kendle in mass storage mode?
[22:46] <jackarg> ok well great the person who was helping me quit so now can ANYONE help me get my screen resolution back to normal after installing nvidia graphics drivers please I would really appreciate it
[22:46] <zimzum77> jackarg, i'm still here
[22:47] <Degru> indigo_glow: not sure. I don't have one. I know regular kindle defaults to usb storage when connected to a PC.
[22:47] <nightdemon666> kostkon, but if this was a machine that required to have multiple users to be logged in, wouldnt that be an issue? perhaps i have changed an option that would normally require a password again?
[22:47] <jackarg> zimzum77 oops I saw you log off maybe it was someone else. have you got a way to help?
[22:47] <rodolfo> just testing
[22:47] <indigo_glow> Degru, all of the tutorials ive been reading and all of the  videos ive watched do not say anything about usb mass storage
[22:47] <zimzum77> jackarg, yea yea, i'm digging on this one
[22:47] <fellayaboy> i have 2 pcs behind a router..i want both of them to be accesed from outside the router (via internet)...my router only allows me to open a port for one pc at a time how do i go about this?
[22:48] <jackarg> what are you doing exactly zimzum77?
[22:48] <rodolfo> quit
[22:48] <zimzum77> youtubeing for a vid to show you
[22:49] <zimzum77> jackarg,  everything i'm seeing has amd, not nvidia
[22:49] <kostkon> nightdemon666, no, because in that kind of environments you either lock your screen or log out. the the user switcher indicator exists and it's there only for convenience
[22:49] <nightdemon666> yakeb, what i would do, is find out what the module name is for the catalyst driver. then i would blacklist it in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file. if the original driver no longer wants to work any more, than i would just force it to run at boot in the /etc/moduels file
[22:49] <jackarg> zimzum77 but didn't you do it? maybe write up a step by step thing, or look for a tutorial in text if you can't find vids
[22:50] <fellayaboy> i have 2 pcs behind a router..i want both of them to be accesed from outside the router (via internet)...my router only allows me to open a port for one pc at a time how do i go about this?
[22:50] <Degru> indigo_glow: from what I've found on google it should show a fullscreen thing that says "you can now transfer files from your computer" and it should have some kind of disconnect button
[22:50] <Degru> indigo_glow: if your kindle fire shows that then the computer should be able to recognize it as a usb drive
[22:50] <nightdemon666> i see, then kostkon... if i "lock screen" from unity, does that put you back into the user login screen? havent tried that yet...
[22:51] <Degru> nightdemon666: i think it does if i remember correctly
[22:51] <nightdemon666> well then that would solve my concern :D
[22:51] <Degru> nightdemon666: there's no screensaver functionality, so it wouldn't just start a screensaver.
[22:51] <nightdemon666> well, i did install xscreensaver... do you think that will now interfere with unity lock screen feature returning to the login screen?
[22:52] <zimzum77> jackarg, yes i did, so shut down, start up, hit f10, or 12 to enter setup. then you need to find graphics. Now you need to see if it is switchable, if it is it'll say it.  So now you need to make it NOT switchable
[22:52] <jackarg> zimzum77 i need to enter bios?
[22:52] <zimzum77> yes
[22:52] <Degru> nightdemon666: does it show xscreensaver when you click lock screen? if it does, that's ok too because then you can click switch user and go to the login screen
[22:52] <kostkon> nightdemon666, at the moment, lightdm isn't being used for the lock screen
[22:53] <nightdemon666> i see... i guess i have some trouble shooting to do :)
[22:53] <jackarg> ok i'll do that and i'll come back with what i found stay here zimzum77
[22:53] <nightdemon666> gunna go play and see what happends
[22:54] <indigo_glow> Degru, everything ive read shows that too but when i plug my kendle fire into the computer the screen does not change, i can still access the carocell and open apps and what not
[22:54] <indigo_glow> i should get a screen like you were saying but its not doing it
[22:54] <Degru> nightdemon666: I really hate unity. When dealing with it I just don't touch the default settings at all. I prefer some other flavor like kubuntu
[22:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ubiquity > ntzrmtthihu777
[22:54] <Degru> indigo_glow: try plugging a normal usb drive in your computer; does it work?
[22:55] <zimzum77> jackarg, i will
[22:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Degru: I agree, unity is atrocious
[22:56] <fellayaboy> i have 2 pcs behind a router..i want both of them to be accesed (port 22: ssh) from outside the router (via internet)...my router only allows me to open a port for one pc at a time how do i go about this?
[22:58] <Flannel> fellayaboy: Pick a different port for the second computer.
[22:58] <CharmStrange> I did the unistalltion of the fglrx driver, meantime, when I run the Catalyst installer, shows that a previously is detected.. How to delete all relationed with the driver.. To unistall everything?
[22:58] <fellayaboy> how do i get ssh to change from port 22 to lets say port 23
[22:59] <CharmStrange> ??
[22:59] <compdoc> fellayaboy, does the router allow forwarding a different external port to 22? like 500 > 22
[22:59] <CharmStrange> Can anybody help me?
[22:59] <nightdemon666> fellayaboy, just an fwi, the firewall on your router would have to know what ip address to forward those packets to... that being said if you have both open at port 22 and want them both listening on the internet, i dont think this can be done. you would have to understand networking and know that you need both listening on two different ports
[23:00] <jackarg> zimzum77 I pressed f2 to get into bios but there was no section for graphics
[23:00] <CharmStrange> heey.. Please...
[23:01] <CharmStrange> How to uninstall all ATI driver to install the leatest?
[23:01] <fellayaboy> i understand networking some
[23:02] <fellayaboy> i just want to know the command to have ssh listen onto a different port
[23:02] <yakeb> nightdemon666: thank you for your advice. I will give this a try.
[23:02] <creakybore> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set port value to what you want
[23:03] <CharmStrange><PHONE_NUMBER>001010111000101100010001000010000110100100100101000101 0100010 0101001<PHONE_NUMBER>01 10011011 011101001 11110 11101 10000010<PHONE_NUMBER>0 01111101 110
[23:03] <fellayaboy> bingo thank u
[23:03] <nightdemon666> also, degru and kostkon, since i have installed xscreensaver, that breaks the Ctrl Alt L key combo ( which i know i can adjust) that is used for unity/gnome 3 lock screen feature. this is probably how i caused my problem in the first place. xscreensaver screws that up.. and in the even that i have xscreensaver running in the back groun, IF i want to switch user, and require a password if already logged in, it requires
[23:03] <fellayaboy> thank you very much guys
[23:04] <jackarg> zimzum77?
[23:04] <zimzum77> jackarg, hrmm
[23:04] <zimzum77> jackarg, your'e sure you nvidia?
[23:04] <jackarg> zimzum77 i'm sure lemme look one last time at the bios
[23:04] <Degru> nightdemon666: you should probably enable the shortcut in the xscreensaver config.
[23:05] <fellayaboy> hold on..say i put the port onto 22 wouldnt that conflict with other programs that use it...i believe telnet uses 23 or ftp i beleive...will that cause issues..should i use a higher up port such as 1333 or something
[23:05] <nightdemon666> yeah, agreed degru
[23:05] <fellayaboy> i mean if i use another port like 23 for ssh...
[23:05] <zimzum77> jackarg, it' prolly in advanced or something
[23:06] <nightdemon666> yes, fellayaboy it would, soooo, you ned to change to a port that you arent ever going ot use... i use 443 (htp) i dont run a https server do that s ok. change listening ports in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file. change Port 22 to Port what ever you want that isnt already using that port
[23:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> can you safely uninstall ubiquity from a finished installation?
[23:06] <CharmStrange> (|)
[23:07] <fellayaboy> thank u nightdemon666
[23:07] <Jordan_U> CharmStrange: Sending nonsense messages won't get you an answer any faster.
[23:08] <jackarg_> zimzum77 so there is no mention of the graphics driver besides the model name
[23:08] <jackarg_> zimzum77 if you can't do it do you know someone else who could help me?
[23:08] <zimzum77> which is??
[23:08] <nightdemon666> fellayaboy, if you dont plan on EVER running port 23 as telnet protocol in the future (and i dont recommend you do for security reasons) than run both server one port 22 then server two poer 23, but i would use a port that i KNOW i will likely NEVER use
[23:08] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Ubiquity shouldn't be installed in a finished installation, if it is then something has gone wrong.
[23:08] <jackarg_> zimzum77 well it's nvidia i didn't write down the following numbers
[23:09] <bravis> wow it sure looks better  with the actual nvidia drivers..
[23:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: its a remaster
[23:09] <nightdemon666> fellayaboy, i run two ssh server, and i use the poo out of them, so i know alot about ssh server running if you have other questions, by all means aSK :)
[23:09] <BUTTERBEER> as;dlfkh
[23:09] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: Then you can safely remove ubiquity, but you should tell whoever made it to fix their remaster.
[23:10] <fellayaboy> nightdemon666 tell me about tunnels...how are they used
[23:10] <BUTTERBEER> h00k: testing
[23:10] <somsip> !test | BUTTERBEER
[23:10] <nightdemon666> yes! tunnels are great! what exactly do you want to know about them???
[23:10] <Jordan_U> BUTTERBEER: Please use #test for tests, not #ubuntu.
[23:10] <zimzum77> jackarg_,  I'm srry man i told you all i know at this point.... :(   Like i said thatis everything i did to my puter to get it to run
[23:10] <BUTTERBEER> Jordan_U: Apologies, unaware of the channel.
[23:10] <un1xfreak> !test | Butter
[23:11] <jackarg_> zimzum77 can you ask anyone you know can help to help me?
[23:11] <Jordan_U> BUTTERBEER: No problem :)
[23:11] <BUTTERBEER> :)
[23:11] <nell> How are nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[23:12] <nell> I have a gtx 670 and yes I'm making a backup but I wanna know how are the drivers in functionality / stability on ubuntu
[23:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: thankya
[23:12] <nell> good?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: You're welcome.
[23:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> *chortles* nvidia hell
[23:13] <zimzum77> hahaaaaYES, they suck, until they are config
[23:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> zimzum77: are you zimzum_ ?
[23:13] <Mavrik> nell, there are two versions of nvidia drivers available on ubuntu: the opensource ones (used by default) which are basically crap and the nvidia provided binary driver which is the same codebase as windows versions
[23:13] <zimzum77> ntzrmtthihu777,  this is the trend today grphics  lol
[23:14] <nightdemon666> i'll start with ssh tunnel is like a vpn, but its selective. first of all, ssh is generally used ot establish a remote commandline connection to the computer. like telnet. then you have sftp, which is a subsystem of ssh, and can be accomplished by a program that supports sftp and will allow you to graphically admin files. then there is what people normally refer to ssh tunnel, and thats really a SOCKS proxy for web bro
[23:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, right? I was just having an issue with my gpu getting too hot, got screen jitters from it
[23:14] <zimzum77> ntzrmtthihu777, yes it me, i had to change nick
[23:14] <Jordan_U> nell: Performance and stability wise, very good (unless you need Optimus support). Though they don's support KMS and other nice features, and taint the kernel by being closed source.
[23:14] <jackarg_> mavrik do you know how to solve screen resolution problems caused by that driver?
[23:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> nell: for optimus support you would need bumblebee
[23:15] <zimzum77> bastards said my zimzum was taken
[23:15] <Mavrik> jackarg_, hmm, the 313 version "just worked" for me on all systems
[23:15] <Mavrik> jackarg_, you're supposed to use nvidia-settings to set parameters
[23:15] <fellayaboy> gotcha nightdemon666 so a tunnel would would work this way...ur on a network that prevents outbound traffic through port 22 hwo would u use a tunnel to get thru that barrier
[23:16] <end_guy> Is Skype availible on 13.04 beta release?
[23:16] <nightdemon666> use a differnt port
[23:16] <codezombie> Anyone know of a working driver for this device? https://gist.github.com/gitt/5078774
[23:17] <jackarg_> mavrik idk i've just got stuck in unity 2D at 640x480 and i've been trying for literally 2 hours but no one can help :/
[23:17] <codezombie> I attempted tg3, but it didn't seem to pick up the device when I ran modprobe.
[23:17] <nightdemon666> it could be though, that the network you are on not only blocks port 22, but also blocks that protocol.. which means NO ssh data packets would ever escape the gatway anyway :(
[23:17] <jackarg_> mavrik it was after installing the nvidia driver
[23:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> jackarg_: damn that sucks.
[23:18] <end_guy> nightdemon666: One could just change the default port in sshd, yes?
[23:18] <NullEntity> I had a VMware Ubuntu server 12.10 running perfectly until I rebooted. Now it's hanging on boot after saying "microcode: failed to laod file amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam15h.bin". What can I do?
[23:18] <nightdemon666> correct end_guy
[23:18] <jackarg_> ntzrmtthihu777, mavrik, can none of you point me towards the right direction i'm desperate and it's 12 am here in europe
[23:18] <nightdemon666> i do A LOT of things via ssh and command line. so i just run vi from command line and change the config file when i need to :)
[23:19] <zimzum77> ntzrmtthihu777,  it says he needs to run xorg nividia config as root
[23:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> jackarg_: hmmm, how did you install the drivers
[23:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> jackarg_: what is your make and model, also
[23:20] <end_guy> Is there a channel for beta realeases of ubuntu?
[23:20] <OerHeks> NullEntity,  sudo apt-get install amd64-microcode should fix that, not sure this applies for VMware too, i fixed mine with this same error this way
[23:20] <codezombie> nvm
[23:21] <codezombie> just had to build tg3 from source.
[23:21] <nightdemon666> brb
[23:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> end_guy: #ubuntu+1 I think
[23:21] <jackarg_> i did 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates' then 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings' i have the geforce if you want the numbers and all i'll go to bios and get it four you
[23:21] <NullEntity> OerHeks, it doesn't even reach a shell
[23:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> jackarg_: yes, I should like to know your machine's make and model. is it off the shelf or custom built?
[23:22] <jackarg_> it's off the shelf it's an acer aspire v3-571 do you want the exact nvidia driver number?
[23:23] <NullEntity> actually, it might be booting to a shell now
[23:24] <bigbadben> If I installed kubuntu but now I want to go all the way back to ubuntu how would I do it? it was kubuntu 12.10
[23:24] <jackarg_> ntzrmtthihu777: it's off the shelf it's an acer aspire v3-571 do you want the exact nvidia driver number?
[23:25] <zimzum77> jackarg_, you got the same card i do geForce335m
[23:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> :D then tell him how to enable that in the bios
[23:26] <jackarg_> probably so now what :'( i'm litterally begging you for any answer :D
[23:26] <jackarg_> :/
[23:26] <zimzum77> I tried but he can't find it
[23:26] <kynlem> how can i change default apps (calendar, browser, etc.) from command line?
[23:26] <zimzum77> i lookig fora vid
[23:26] <jackarg_> ntzrmtthihu777: there is no section for the graphics card in the bios
[23:27] <zimzum77> its gottabe in an advanced menu, i see that it is switchble
[23:28] <jackarg_> zimzum77: not sure how to access the advanced menu
[23:29] <zimzum77> did you go to website and get drivers?
[23:29] <bravis> isnt that something you have to install?
[23:30] <jackarg_> zimzum77: what?
[23:30] <zimzum77> jackarg_,  here is the drivers from acer       http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model-features/NX.RYFAA.005
[23:30] <bravis> advancd menu
[23:30] <zimzum77> jackarg_, that is ur puter right?
[23:31] <jackarg_> yes it is
[23:33] <zimzum77> jackarg_,  sudo apt-get install nvidia_current
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> zimzum77: should it not be nvidia-current?
[23:34] <jackarg_> zimzum77 that's how i got in this mess in the first place...it's already installed
[23:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never saw a _ in a package name
[23:35] <Degru> bigbadben: If you installed xubuntu from ubuntu by running "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", look at this guide for help going back: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu . If you installed it from the CD, you can probably do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it should install unity and all that stuff.
[23:35] <zimzum77> that is how i ran it
[23:35] <Degru> bigbadben: *kubuntu
[23:36] <jackarg_> zimzum77: maybe ctrl-f1 to get to advanced settings?
[23:36] <zimzum77> i don't now man
[23:37] <jackarg_> lemme try
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> should have gnubuntu
[23:40] <HannsFree> Hi all
[23:40] <bigbadben> degru: How would I get rid of all the extras kubuntu came with tho?
[23:41] <zimzum77> maybe he need the bumble bee ntzrmtthihu777 ??  All i did was turned it off and booted up with chipset on, then i go to system info and i can control all
[23:44] <jackarg> ok i can't find anything in bios nothing new on your side zimzum77? I guess I just need to reinstall ubuntu. Something that I just did yesterday night because of nvidia giving me a blackscreen in 12.10. WHAT A PAIN!
[23:44] <indigo_glow> i am following this guide. i am trying to identify the id of the device with dmesg .. here is the guide http://askubuntu.com/questions/177555/managing-kindle-fire-with-on-12-04-via-micro-usb i am trying to use and here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/Dnq514eE will can someone help me figure out bc i don't completely understand
[23:45] <end_guy> Is there a way to get apt-get to auto install dependencies? i.e. when trying to install a package and it says something like "Depends: X but it is not going to be installed"
[23:45] <zimzum77> jackarg, DAMN!! srry my man, i fuked with that for 2 days..... : (