[16:55] <tzd> WL-500gP
[16:55] <tzd> p as in premium
[16:55] <USMarine> it's supported
[16:55] <flaccid> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Asus_WL-500g_Deluxe
[16:55] <USMarine> how big is your flash memory?
[16:56] <tzd> sweet :) I suppose all open standards have the same stuff such as ftp servers, torrent clients etc?
[16:56] <tzd> 32mb USMarine
[16:56] <tzd> thanks flaccid
[16:56] <belzebub> u sure? i think thats ram
[16:56] <USMarine> that's the ram
[16:56] <USMarine> not flash
[16:56] <belzebub> 8mb flash maybe
[16:56] <USMarine> yeah
[16:56] <USMarine> might be 8
[16:56] <USMarine> he can use the mega version
[16:57] <tzd> oh ok... hmm how do i find out the amount of flash then? :)
[16:57] <flaccid> tzd: and comments on this model on main install page too http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation
[16:57] <flaccid> lol there is a mega version? i use the vpn version atm
[16:57] <USMarine> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
[16:58] <USMarine> yep
[16:58] <USMarine> but only for 8mb+ devices
[16:58] <tzd> will install vmware first but as soon as i've done that i'll head for this fw thing :)
[16:58] <flaccid> they seem to use the std generic for your asus model on that wiki tzd..
[16:58] <USMarine> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=12&l2=43&l3=0&model=1121&modelmenu=1
[16:58] <USMarine> this one?
[16:59] <tzd> USMarine: yes that's the one :) version 1... not v2
[16:59] <flaccid> ooo premo hehe
[16:59] <philsf> hello, does anybody know of a script to import/export kmail filters to procmail or maildrop?
[16:59] <USMarine> tzd you can have the mega firmware then
[16:59] <USMarine> standard+vpn+voip
[16:59] <flaccid> that would make it a mega premium
[17:00] <tzd> USMarine: ah that's good right? sounds cool :)
[17:00] <flaccid> what do you get with the voip ?
[17:00] <flaccid> ^^ bad joke on my behalf there
[17:00] <USMarine> just hard reset before and after flashing
[17:00] <tzd> what's included in "standard"? webserver, ftpserver, torrent, upnp mediaserver?
[17:01] <USMarine> LMAO
[17:03] <tzd> which version is dd-wrt at now?
[17:06] <amerigo> ! WEB
[17:06] <amerigo> ! web
[17:06] <USMarine> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Asus_WL500G_Premium
[17:06] <amerigo> ! site
[17:08] <reese> what's the kde equivalent of System/Administration/Software Sources?
[17:08] <amerigo> ! program
[17:08] <amerigo> ! programm
[17:08] <USMarine> reese ADEPT
[17:08] <amerigo> ! games
[17:08] <achille_> hi "sudo apt-get install skype" install nothing to my kubuntu what is the dépot i need ?
[17:08] <amerigo> ! software
[17:09] <USMarine> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[17:10] <USMarine> or achille_ http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu
[17:10] <achille_> thx
[17:10] <mefisto__> or medibuntu repos
[17:11] <Bauldrick> I'm trying to mount a PS2 drive on my box; sudo fdisk -l shows it but reads Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[17:11] <USMarine> you have to known the partition type
[17:11] <Dr_willis> Play station 2? I thought those were some special format also.
[17:11] <reese> found it, thanks
[17:11] <shane2peru> does anyone know of a way to import my tomboy notes into knotes?
[17:14] <sgraham> hey guys...i got this problem with kdm.  When i log in it just restarts kdm.
[17:14] <sgraham> i think i have narrowed it down to a bad resolution size for the screen that displays the processes its loading
[17:14] <sgraham> im just not sure where to adjust that?
[17:15] <Georgij> Hello I need help with G parted
[17:16] <Georgij> When I install Windows as dual boot then I have to make another partition right?
[17:16] <Georgij> How can I make split my harddrive into 2 partitions?
[17:17] <flaccid> sgraham: create a test user first or rename your kde dir and login to test fresh kde profile
[17:17] <Georgij> ?
[17:17] <flaccid> Georgij: the installer can do it
[17:17] <Georgij> no
[17:18] <flaccid> i don't know the state of your disk(s)
[17:18] <Georgij> I have 2 disks
[17:18] <Georgij> At the other disk I have my files and the other I have Ubuntu installed
[17:18] <Georgij> But I want to have windows installed at the same disk
[17:18] <Georgij> as ubunutu
[17:18] <rophy> guys ..i have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work
[17:19] <flaccid> yes and is there unallocated space on the disk you want put the other os on?
[17:19] <Georgij> no
[17:19] <Georgij> there is none
[17:19] <Georgij> But with gparted
[17:19] <Georgij> I can make unallocated space
[17:19] <flaccid> is there free space on one of the filesystems to shrink?
[17:19] <Georgij> I have 60gb
[17:19] <blackflag> !usb
[17:19] <Georgij> 160
[17:19] <Georgij> 160gb
[17:19] <rophy> i have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work
[17:20] <Georgij> i want to split it to 80gb in each partition
[17:20] <flaccid> Georgij: what type of fs is it that you have to shrink?
[17:20] <rophy> i have a tv-out on an ATI card and i dunno how to make it work
[17:20] <Georgij> ext3
[17:20] <flaccid> to make room for windows?
[17:20] <sgraham> flaccid: ya we tried thatthe other day.
[17:21] <Georgij> Filesystem ext3 size 160gb
[17:21] <mefisto__> rophy: have you searched google for your particular ati card + tvout + ubuntu ?
[17:21] <rophy> no i didnt
[17:21] <sgraham> no worky, i think its the screen that is displayed before any user info is grabed..its like the intermittant screen between the login and the user account being accessed
[17:21] <sgraham> that make any sence?
[17:22] <sgraham> the werid part is that gdm works fine
[17:22] <flaccid> sgraham: must be kdm or something
[17:22] <Georgij> so u cant help me or what?
[17:22] <mefisto__> rophy: unless you happen to have the same ati card as me (Radeon 9200), that's all I can suggest
[17:22] <flaccid> Georgij: trying to remember what you can do with ext3
[17:22] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to transfer my tomboy notes to knotes?
[17:23] <Greendingbat> hi
[17:23] <rophy> i have ati radeon but it's 7 smthng
[17:24] <Greendingbat> im kinda new to kubuntu, and i need some help with installing a web browser i just downloaded
[17:24] <flaccid> Georgij: you might need to do it manually like this: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[17:24] <mefisto__> rophy: lspci should list your ati card (and other stuff)
[17:25] <rophy> mefisto__: and what's the Ispci
[17:25] <flaccid> Georgij: actually see comments on the bottom there
[17:25] <mefisto__> rophy: "lspci" is a command, type it in konsole
[17:26] <rophy> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[17:27] <rophy> mefisto__:VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[17:28] <roodog> Greendingbat, what browser do you have?
[17:28] <Greendingbat> i am trying to install Flock
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> Greendingbat: Generally it's better to use the package managers to install software rather than manually downloading and installing things.
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> !find flock
[17:29] <Greendingbat> oh
[17:29] <Greendingbat> there it si
[17:29] <Greendingbat> is*
[17:29] <Greendingbat> sweet
[17:29] <Greendingbat> so, sudo apt-get install libfile-flock?
[17:29] <Greendingbat> or something of that nature?
[17:29] <Xbehave> !identify
[17:30] <Xbehave> how do i get an identity?
[17:30] <llutz> !register
[17:30] <Xbehave> Greendingbat: i dont think that is flock
[17:31] <jhutchins_wk> Greendingbat: That's not the web browser, that's something else.
[17:31] <Greendingbat> what?
[17:31] <Greendingbat> http://flock.com/
[17:31] <Greendingbat> it's a webbrowser
[17:31] <Xbehave> flock is the firefox based browser right?
[17:31] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:31] <jhutchins_wk> Greendingbat: Given that we don't appear to have a flock package available, you're probably best off finding their install instructions.
[17:31] <Greendingbat> k, i'll try that
[17:32] <Greendingbat> hey, how do i get java?
[17:32] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Flock
[17:32] <Greendingbat> i tried sudo apt-get install java
[17:32] <Greendingbat> it didn't work
[17:32] <Xbehave> install firefox3  gnome support, then get their package and if its a deb just install it, if its a tar you can unpack it to opt, then link stuff manually
[17:33] <Xbehave> disrigard my that just install the deb above
[17:33] <Greendingbat> nm, i think it'd just be easier to get firefox
[17:33] <Greendingbat> wait
[17:33] <Greendingbat> i have the deb
[17:33] <Greendingbat> i think
[17:33] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: for java, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[17:33] <Greendingbat> ah
[17:33] <Greendingbat> thanks
[17:34] <Greendingbat> should i open or save this deb file?
[17:34] <Xbehave> save
[17:34] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: save it, then open it
[17:34] <Greendingbat> k
[17:35] <Greendingbat> im getting used to linux still
[17:35] <Greendingbat> it's pretty cool
[17:35] <Greendingbat> im running kubuntu 8.04 in a VM
[17:35] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: apt-cache search "search term"    will list packages that match your search term
[17:36] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: then you can "sudo apt-get install package-name" whatever it is you want
[17:37] <jhutchins_wk> !java
[17:38] <tyler_> hey does kubuntu cd include a live cd.....and if it does how do i access that from the cd?
[17:39] <jhutchins_wk> tyler_: The standard CD should be a bootable live CD.
[17:39] <tyler_> i think it was the one a few days before the final release
[17:39] <tyler_> it was like the final beta
[17:39] <jhutchins_wk> tyler_: Put it in drive, reboot, enable boot-to-cd in BIOS, continue boot.
[17:40] <Muzer> hi
[17:40] <Greendingbat> sorry, just came back, what's this about java?
[17:40] <Muzer> In the latest kubuntu I have a problem with rejoystick
[17:40] <Muzer> The error I get:
[17:40] <Muzer> (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable.
[17:40] <Muzer> (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable.
[17:40] <Muzer> whoops
[17:40] <ubu84> ciao
[17:40] <Muzer> (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device!
[17:41] <tyler_> from the live cd how do i access my hard drive
[17:41] <Muzer> Also, I can't even get qjoypad to install
[17:41] <tyler_> i need to edit my fstab
[17:43] <Fyl0n> anyone for audacious support?
[17:44] <mefisto__> tyler_: you need to mount the partition. eg, "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" will mount sda1 partition to the /mnt directory
[17:45] <Fyl0n> nm
[17:45] <jhutchins_wk> DO NOT MOUNT TO /MNT on a live CD.
[17:45] <tyler_> to late
[17:45] <tyler_> how do i change to the drive after i mount it
[17:45] <tyler_> like cd so i can access ect/fstab
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk> It might not kill kubuntu, but it's generally a bad idea, there are things already mounted within /mnt on most lvie CDs.
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk> tyler_: cd
[17:46] <emilsedgh> DONT SHOUT jhutchins_wk!
[17:46] <tyler_> cd what
[17:46] <tyler_> cd /dev/sda1?
[17:46] <_Shade_> i have linksys wusb56gc wifi adapter. I have some problems on getting it work in adhoc mode
[17:46] <mefisto__> tyler_: cd /mnt/etc/
[17:47] <jhutchins_wk> tyler_: cd /path/you/specified/to/mount
[17:47] <Greendingbat> emilsedgh: he was trying to stress a point
[17:47] <_Shade_> what should i do to get it working?
[17:47] <Greendingbat> he wasn't mad at anyone
[17:47] <georgelot> hello everyone!!!
[17:48] <georgelot> i need help on vostro 1700 with kubuntu, please!
[17:48] <jimmy51vinsky> my usb drive is booting using syslinux, but i have to manually enter the kernel image line each time.  it doesn't appear that syslinux.cfg is being read.  what do i need to do to make sure syslinux reads and uses my cfg file?
[17:50] <pim> what would be a good calculator program to install?
[17:50] <llutz> pim speedcrunch
[17:51] <mefisto__> speedcrunch is installed by default, isn't it?
[17:51] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:51] <Greendingbat> it is
[17:51] <pim> ok
[17:51] <llutz> pim or kcalc
[17:51] <Greendingbat> which is kinda funny that they include two
[17:52] <llutz> one more ubuntu'ism
[17:52] <mefisto__> they are two different styles of calculator, though
[17:52] <Greendingbat> yeah
[17:53] <pim> ok thanks
[17:53] <Greendingbat> speedcrunch is faster, but not as good
[17:53] <Greendingbat> as in, it doesn't have as many features
[17:53] <Greendingbat> hey, how do i get a .deb file to install
[17:53] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: really? I haven't noticed
[17:54] <llutz> mefisto__: so you mean they should inlcude kwriter, abiword and some more wordprocessors, because the are "different styles"? ;)
[17:54] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: double-click should open gdebi, which installs the .deb
[17:54] <Greendingbat> llutz: no, i don't think he means that
[17:54] <Greendingbat> he was just stating something
[17:55] <mefisto__> llutz: if wordprocessors were as trivial (size-wise) as calculator programs, they probably would
[17:55] <mefisto__> dunno how different those word processors are though
[17:55] <Greendingbat> yeah, dclicking opens up the package installer, but when i click install package, it starts working, but then nothing happens
[17:56] <Greendingbat> in fact, it opens up the package installer again
[17:56] <Greendingbat> which then dissapears
[17:59] <mefisto__> Greendingbat: I think "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" will install it too
[18:01] <Greendingbat> it didn't work
[18:01] <Greendingbat> Player 1 E: 3 S: 26 A: 46    1    1
[18:01] <Greendingbat> Player 2 E: 2 S: 32 A: 46    3
[18:01] <Greendingbat> whoops
[18:01] <Greendingbat> sorry
[18:01] <Greendingbat> wrong paste
[18:01] <Greendingbat> sudo: dpkg-i: command not found
[18:02] <Greendingbat> that's the error i get
[18:02] <llutz> dpkg -i   with space
[18:02] <Greendingbat> ah thanks
[18:02] <Greendingbat> great
[18:02] <Greendingbat> now there's an error with the package itself
[18:02] <llutz> paste it to !pastebin
[18:02] <llutz> !paste
[18:03] <Muzer> how do you "set the $FRAMEBUFFER environment variable"
[18:03] <Muzer> I know how to set it
[18:03] <Muzer> what do you set it too?
[18:05] <advanced> hi
[18:05] <advanced> i have some problem
[18:06] <advanced> is here anyone ? who can me help ? :)
[18:07] <llutz> !ask
[18:07] <achille_> advanced: never who can ask the question !
[18:08] <advanced> ok :-D
[18:08] <advanced> I have problem with flash videos....sound with flash videos doesnt work
[18:11] <advanced> who can me help ?
[18:12] <Greendingbat> i think you mean "who can help me?"
[18:12] <_Shade_> what packages do i need to get ndiswrapper? i mean its dependencies since i am going to set up my network but i have no dvd iso to get it
[18:15] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper | _Shade_:
[18:15] <advanced> who can help me ? :(
[18:15] <advanced> please
[18:15] <jussi01> !repeat | advanced
[18:17] <Greendingbat> advance: do you have the flash plugin?
[18:17] <Tophat> hail satan.
[18:17] <Greendingbat> WTF?
[18:18] <Tophat> word.
[18:18] <Greendingbat> you are a strange person
[18:18] <jussi01> Tophat: can we help you somehow?
[18:18] <Tophat> no sir. you are!
[18:18] <Greendingbat> do you have any point in coming here?
[18:18] <Greendingbat> or do you just want to bug us with your satanic crap?
[18:18] <Tophat> yeah man, im always in here dude.
[18:18] <Tophat> calm down dude, just an afternoon joke.  no biggie.
[18:18] <advanced> I have flash plugin...video work but without sound
[18:19] <Greendingbat> are you running kubuntu naitivly?
[18:19] <jussi01> !o4o > Tophat
[18:19] <advanced> yes
[18:19] <Greendingbat> do you have the current drivers for your speakers?
[18:19] <podr0znik> Good evening all :)
[18:19] <Tophat> !040 > Jussi01
[18:19] <Greendingbat> evening?
[18:19] <Greendingbat> where i live it's morning
[18:20] <podr0znik> Good morning to you then, Greendingbat :)
[18:20] <podr0znik> US?
[18:20] <Greendingbat> good evening to you
[18:20] <Greendingbat> yeah
[18:20] <Greendingbat> well, that doesn't mean anything
[18:20] <Greendingbat> US is big enough that it could be evening on one side
[18:21] <podr0znik> hmm... not that big huh?
[18:21] <podr0znik> 3 hours difference between east & west coast, right?
[18:21] <advanced> i mean yes
[18:21] <advanced> speak works normally with amarok example...but no with videos
[18:21] <advanced> flash videos
[18:22] <podr0znik> awww... how nice... the product I bought supports Windows Vista :P
[18:22] <mefisto__> advanced: do you have more than one sound card?
[18:22] <jussi01> podr0znik: This channel is for Kubuntu support. If you just would like to chat, please head over to #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <advanced> no...only integrated sound card
[18:23] <Tophat> advanced - open terminal and type in lspci and copy what your sound car is and all in here
[18:23] <podr0znik> jussi01: you're right - I was not ready with unpacking yet, but my question will come
[18:23] <Tophat> podr0znik - dont worry about him.  he's mean.
[18:23] <podr0znik> Tophat: But rules are necessary, especially in a place with many children
[18:24] <podr0znik> anyway... I was wondering if sb would have time to walk me through the installation of a label printer I bought today
[18:24] <advanced> how copy _
[18:24] <advanced> ?
[18:24] <advanced> I cannot because bot kick me for flood
[18:24] <Tophat> advanced goto the paste bin
[18:24] <Tophat> paste.ubuntu.com
[18:24] <jussi01> !paste| advanced
[18:25] <advanced> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15829/
[18:27] <shane2peru> quick question, how can I setup the extra buttons on my keyboard?  Like the music button to start amarok?
[18:27] <jussi01> !shortcuts | shane2peru
[18:27] <shane2peru> in Gnome, I know exactly how to do this. :)
[18:28] <Tophat> advanced - can you get sound from anything else like an mp3 file or such?
[18:28] <shane2peru> thanks jussi01    I guess I should ask the bot these simple things lol :)
[18:28] <advanced> yes
[18:28] <podr0znik> there's with big letters on the printer "install software first" but software is only included for MS and Mac
[18:28] <advanced> only flash videos doesnt work
[18:28] <podr0znik> should I first find software on the net then?
[18:28] <jussi01> podr0znik: what printer ios it?
[18:28] <Tophat> podr0znik - plug it in. itll probably work.
[18:29] <podr0znik> label printer, Brother QL-500
[18:29] <Tophat> ouch. we got those here at work.   i dont like it. ><
[18:29] <jussi01> advanced: try this: =255422
[18:29] <jussi01> grr
[18:29] <mefisto__> shane2peru: in systemsettings > regional & language > keyboard layout, you can choose "keyboard model" if your is in the list, or something close
[18:29] <jussi01> advanced: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422
[18:29] <podr0znik> Tophat: Hm, I hope I will be happier then
[18:29] <advanced> ok :D
[18:30] <Tophat> yeah its good as long as everyone doesn't want to be networked to it! haha, it was just such a hassle trying to get all the girls in the office to be on it at once.
[18:30] <shane2peru> mefisto__: well, I haven't had the luck of ever finding my keyboard before, maybe I should check again, thanks
[18:30] <advanced> quick question...
[18:31] <advanced> gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc...what i must do with this ? I dont understand
[18:31] <podr0znik> Tophat: Oh, I won't have that problem here :)
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> podr0znik: The "Install software first" is because windows will install the wrong thing if you just plug it in.
[18:31] <Tophat> advanced - open terminal and type that in.
[18:31] <advanced> doestn work
[18:31] <Muzer> Can anyone reccommend a good joystick --> keyboard mapper?
[18:31] <Tophat> oh sorry change gedit to kedit
[18:31] <jussi01> podr0znik: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-QL-500
[18:31] <Muzer> I seem to be having bad luck
[18:32] <advanced> thanks...i am noob :-/
[18:32] <jussi01> kedit Tophat???
[18:32] <jussi01> kate or kwrite
[18:32] <Tophat> hahahaha
[18:32] <Tophat> thanks jussi01
[18:32] <shadowman> ubuntu..com is down
[18:32] <Muzer> I've tried rejoystick, qjoypad, xjoypad, and joy2key
[18:32] <Muzer> the only one that works is joy2key
[18:32] <advanced> tell me please correectly command :-D
[18:32] <Muzer> and that's an arse to use
[18:32] <advanced> please
[18:32] <Tophat> shadowman try ubuntu.com instead. :P
[18:32] <shadowman> that one i ment:)
[18:33] <shadowman> try and c 4 urself
[18:33] <Muzer> so, has anybody got one to recommend?
[18:33] <frybye> hi after a crash the system has changed from german language/region etc to us english and has no other languages and will not install any etc... what now_
[18:33] <advanced> What i must with this ? gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[18:34] <Tophat> shadowman - thats weird.
[18:34] <shadowman> yep
[18:34] <frybye> this also happed once before todayh and I restored an image but cant do that every five minutes...-
[18:34] <Tophat> advanced i sent you and IM
[18:35] <shadowman> frybye: try apt-get autoclean and autoremove, and then, reinstall the language packages
[18:35] <frybye> any ideas on how to get the system to so that is two things to run / once with apt/get autoclean and then apt/get autoremove / sorrz the kezboard is all wrong here...
[18:36] <[A]Li> hi there
[18:36] <philsf> is it possible to leave kio-pop3 running if kmail/kontact is not?
[18:36] <[A]Li> i had installed the KDE for Ubuntu
[18:36] <shadowman> anyone know why ubuntu.com is down?
[18:36] <[A]Li> but i have the older version of KDE
[18:36] <Pici> shadowman: Its being looked into
[18:36] <shadowman> frybye: sudo apt-get autoclean
[18:36] <shadowman> frybye: sudo apt-get autormeove
[18:37] <shadowman> frybye: agter those two commands, reinstall packages
[18:37] <[A]Li> i want the new 1 4.0
[18:37] <[A]Li> how can i get the new one?
[18:37] <jussi01> !kde4
[18:37] <mefisto__> advanced: you are following the ubuntu.com howto for flash, right?
[18:37] <shadowman> Pici: ok. thanx
[18:38] <Tophat> mefisto__ im walking him through it now
[18:38] <[A]Li> they had send me here
[18:39] <[A]Li> how can i update to kde 4?
[18:39] <jussi01> [A]Li: I did not send you here
[18:40] <[A]Li> jussi01: topic: if you are running KDE3, please go to #kubuntu
[18:41] <shadowman> ubuntu.com is back
[18:42] <advanced> who know how to : Enable other discs when i start linux ?
[18:43] <mefisto__> I'm getting apt errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15779/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/ Trying to remove or reinstall gives similar errors. Any suggestions?
[18:43] <podr0znik> hm, I plugged in the usb cable and surprisingly enough just nothing happens
[18:43] <franklin> iwant talk in spanish
[18:44] <franklin> any one speak spanish
[18:44] <paula_> hola
[18:44] <franklin> holapaula
[18:44] <paula_> que tal?
[18:44] <franklin> eres kubuntera
[18:44] <franklin> ke bien
[18:44] <_CrashMaster_> !es
[18:44] <franklin> de donde eres paula
[18:45]  * philsf loves these ircbots
[18:46] <podr0znik> Tophat: Any idea which one I should choose on http://www.diku.dk/~panic/P-touch/ ?
[18:47] <_CrashMaster_> podr0znik: You most likely want the source tarball
[18:47] <podr0znik> I want the version for morons who don't know what to do :)
[18:48] <Tophat> podr0znik - download
[18:48] <podr0znik> yes, done
[18:48] <podr0znik> now for sure unpack it somehow
[18:48] <Tophat> podr0znik - download the tar.gz source tarball
[18:48] <podr0znik> ok, it opens with Ark
[18:49] <podr0znik> and on top there's a ptouch.xml file
[18:49] <Tophat> open up terminal and navigate to the directory where its stored at
[18:49] <podr0znik> I assume that's the driver?
[18:49] <Tophat> nope.
[18:49] <podr0znik> oh ok
[18:49] <Tophat> ill im you.
[18:51] <mefisto__> Anyone seen these apt errors before?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15779/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/15780/
[18:53] <shane2peru> mefisto__: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install
[18:54] <shane2peru> mefisto__: there is something messed up with your apt. :)  Do you have disk space?  are you out of room?
[18:54] <shane2peru> mefisto__: the apt-get  -f install (without package name) tries to fix whatever the problem is.
[18:56] <mefisto__> shane2peru: I have disk space, and the -f option gives the same errors
[18:56] <bleaked> so last night one of my hard drives became full.  i decided to move (as in mv) a larger directory to a second hard drive.  during the move, we had a thunderstorm (i know, bad time to move) and the power went out.  today, all of the data seems fine, so far, but the results of the move are a bit confusing.  the source location is 29 gb, and the destination directory is 18 gb.  both have the same folders and a lot of the same files.  i'm
[18:56] <bleaked> a bit confused as to how the mv program actually works.  looking at the man page, i see there is the update option, which i tried, but when i do it, it wants to overwrite one of the main sub directories -- should i allow this, or am i risking it overwriting from a partially moved source directory?  or does the mv program copy first, then delete afterward?
[18:56] <shane2peru> mefisto__: hmm, that really doesn't look good!  I have never seen that one before. :)
[18:57] <Xiana_> hello, i need the name of de channel about coruña
[18:57] <mefisto__> shane2peru: after googling a bit, I've seen it before, but haven't found a solution for it
[18:57] <advanced> how to enabled disks when i start kubunt u? :(
[18:59] <DrakeJustice> advanced: look at the folder $HOME/.kde/Autostart, learn how to make .desktop files... and have fun learning...
[18:59] <shane2peru> bleaked: I would try cp -rv source destination   that would ensure all data is copied over
[18:59] <blackflag> I have an external usb hd which is very slow, I tried sync but that doesnt help. Can someone help?
[18:59] <bleaked> shane2peru: ok thank you
[19:00] <advanced> lol xD
[19:00] <advanced> thanks
[19:00] <shane2peru> bleaked: I mean, I avoid using mv for large things like that because of problems I have had similar
[19:00] <mildner> hi..how to add a new user on kubuntu64 kd4 ?
[19:01] <advanced> i cannot found
[19:01] <advanced> $HOME/.kde/Autostart
[19:01] <advanced> :(
[19:02] <bleaked> shane2peru: yea, looking back, i can see why it's a bad idea with larger things
[19:02] <mefisto__> advanced: replace $HOME with ~
[19:02] <shane2peru> bleaked: it is great for small moves or smaller files, just not for that much data. :)
[19:03] <advanced> where ? :-D
[19:04] <advanced> !themes
[19:05] <advanced> hmmmm ?
[19:06] <philsf> 2n try: is it possible to leave kio-pop3 running if kmail/kontact is not?
[19:09] <nazgjunk> Anyone got experience with midi not quite working (nothing errors, but I'm not getting any sound) with Intel HDA sound cards - specifically on a Thinkpad t60p?
[19:10] <mefisto__> nazgjunk: you have timidity installed?
[19:10] <nazgjunk> i... had, playing it through that didn't help
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> nazgjunk: does alsamixer run in the console?
[19:16] <nazgjunk> yup
[19:18] <nazgjunk> gah, for now I'll just convert the thing to mp3 with some external service
[19:19] <mefisto_> nazgjunk: sorry, I got disconnected after I asked, do you have anything set in "select MIDI device" in systemsettings?
[19:20] <jill_> hi, why kexi crushes on mdb database importing? i have a driver, but it anyway doesnt works
[19:20] <nazgjunk> I do, yeah
[19:20] <mefisto_> nazgjunk: timidity?
[19:20] <nazgjunk> yes
[19:22] <mefisto_> nazgjunk: you could try restarting timidity with "sudo /etc/init.d/timidity restart" then try again. that's worked for me in the past
[19:22] <nazgjunk> considering I've rebooted in the mean time I doubt that it'll help, but giving it a shot
[19:26] <nazgjunk> not doing a thing, no. Simon says wtf.
[19:26] <Rioting_Pacifist> when i write bad python and kill it, my memory gets freed but my swap still stays about hlf full
[19:29] <pjfloyd> sudo gives "pam_authenticate:Conversion error" - any ideas why and/or a solution?
[19:30] <pjfloyd> it seems perhaps related to using ksh as my shell
[19:31] <pjfloyd> sudo seems to work in bash
[19:31] <jussi01> pjfloyd: I usually get that when I cancel a sudo command
[19:31] <jill_> kexi with mdb driver doesnt works with access database? why?
[19:34] <mefisto_> jill_: why? probably because there is something wrong :P
[19:35] <pjfloyd> I think I'll just put it down to the usual Linux brokenness - something that was only tested with bash 'because that is what everyone uses'
[19:35] <jill_> mefisto, okay what is it may be?
[19:36] <icqnumber> !java
[19:36] <pjfloyd> shutdown now just caused a kernel panic ;-(
[19:37] <icqnumber> !konqueror
[19:41] <icqnumber> i have in my /etc/jvm file enties with java 1.5 but i have only 1.6 installed how comes
[19:42] <BluesKaj> !info Konqueror
[19:43] <icqnumber> and java ist not working in konquerer, any ideas?
[19:45] <icqnumber> also have seen this links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JavaInstallation and java
[19:54] <taafis> is there any way to replace kpdf with okular?
[19:55] <taafis> in kubuntu 8.04 that is
[19:55] <tempest> do you mean make it default ?
[19:55] <taafis> yeah
[19:56] <icqnumber> i have in my /etc/jvm file enties with java 1.5 but i have only 1.6 installed how comes
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> taafis: you can alias "kpdf" to /usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular
[19:56] <taafis> allright, thanks :)
[19:56] <icqnumber> what is about you ppl?
[19:57] <taafis> icqnumber, what do you mean?
[19:57]  * icqnumber feels that ppl are ignoring him
[19:58] <icqnumber> taafis: what kind of enties do u have in ur /etc/jvm file?
[19:59] <taafis> i dont use jvm
[19:59] <taafis> ah
[19:59] <taafis> i thought you meant jwm
[19:59] <taafis> well, havent installed jvm yet
[19:59] <icqnumber> taafis: i want sun java support in konqueror, i had to edit this file by hand
[19:59] <taafis> aint gonna do it until i need it :)
[19:59] <mefisto_> icqnumber: I have the same as you, but it all works
[20:00] <icqnumber> mefisto_: do u have java 1.5 istalled may be too?
[20:00] <mefisto_> icqnumber: I don't know if it works in konqueror. and no, just 1.6 like you
[20:01] <icqnumber> mefisto_: it do now works in konqueror for me after i have placed by hand /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:01] <icqnumber> looks like it is a one small bug :-P
[20:02] <icqnumber> taafis: do u have entries with sun 1.5 in ur file?
[20:02] <taafis> i dont have java installed
[20:02] <icqnumber> taafis:  it does not matter
[20:03] <icqnumber> please check it out
[20:03] <taafis> i dont have java installed, so i dont have a jvm dir
[20:04] <mefisto_> icqnumber: my java works in konqueror without any changes to /etc/jvm
[20:04] <icqnumber> taafis: just type: gedit /etc/jvm it is a file and it there by default
[20:05] <taafis> its not here i've said
[20:05] <icqnumber> mefisto_: yes it works, but which java, free version or from sun?
[20:06] <icqnumber> taafis:  free java is installed by default
[20:07] <mefisto_> I have sun java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS> installed, but /etc/jvm only has java-1.5.0-sun
[20:07] <taafis> its not here atleast
[20:08] <taafis> it wasn't installed on my kubuntu-install by default
[20:08] <Pici> You may need to use sudo update-alternatives --config java
[20:08] <icqnumber> mefisto_: what do u get: java -version
[20:08] <icqnumber> Pici: i did that but that was not a problem
[20:09] <icqnumber> Pici: that problem is a wronf /etc/jvm file
[20:09] <icqnumber> wrong*
[20:10] <mefisto_> icqnumber: java version "1.6.0_06"
[20:10] <frybye> Hi I have had to restore from an image 3 times now - untill it has occured to me what it is that is screwing the installation up - adept offers some updates and when they are installed and a re-boot is done then the system is screwed...
[20:11] <frybye> how can I get rid of the adept icon and just ignore this stuff that is screwing up the system...?
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> frybye: don't accept updates
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> and you can uninstall adept
[20:12] <mefisto_> frybye: I think if you right-click the icon you can exit, and it will ask if you want it to start when kde starts
[20:12] <Ayabara> can someone recommend a nice dark theme for kde 3.5?
[20:13] <frybye> nosred
[20:13] <frybye> nosrednaekim: generally I suppose one usually does do updates or.. these are bad for sure...
[20:13] <frybye> is it a good idea to unistall adept...?
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> ussually they do not harm you.... but its probably a kernel bug/change which doesn't like your hardware
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> frybye: well, just uninstall adept_updater
[20:15] <frybye> i c... so I can just use that command in the terminal - uninstall adept_updater   right?
[20:15] <frybye> with    sudo I guess?
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> no... its "sudo apt-get remove adept-updater"
[20:17] <Gin> hi, are there packages for kde 4.1 already?
[20:17] <pim> I don't think so
[20:17] <frybye> cool - next weds. I have a linux expert here - he will have a look at the problem then perhaps - but this will be good to avoid more problems right now...
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> Gin: not yet!
[20:18] <frybye> him and I are doing a knowledge swap... he gets english i get linux...
[20:18] <Hoenikker> are we there yet?
[20:18] <nosrednaekim> Hoenikker: don't try to pull the theory of relativity on us
[20:18] <frybye> gin - there is an alpa out there but not too stable from what I read...
[20:18] <frybye> gin - but perhaps not as a package or..?
[20:19] <frybye> ah look it is eric come back to plague us hehehe
[20:23] <frybye> lag??
[20:29] <ubuntu___> the 70s
[20:29] <ubuntu___> is fry bye gonna kill HRE parenets?
[20:34] <frybye> ubuntu sorry i did not understand that..?
[20:35] <frybye> but the pace for this is kub-off-topic or?
[20:35] <jpds> frybye: he's gone
[20:35] <frybye> i c - thanks...+
[20:35] <jpds> bitte
[20:35] <ubuntu___> yeah well the conversation died
[20:35] <xenol> !de | jpds
[20:36] <jpds> xenol: I was saying "you're welcome"?
[20:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah jpds yeah....just get out of here, would you already? :P
[20:37] <xenol> jpds: heh sorry then, tho "bitte" is deutsch so i thought...
[20:38] <jpds> xenol: no prob :)
[20:39] <sigma_1234> nixternal: whats the eta on the 4.1 packages looking like? you know we are dying to install it:)
[20:40] <nixternal> sigma_1234: by this weekend...I should have the core modules definitely completed today with some of the other modules...the rest of the modules and extragear should be completed over the weekend
[20:40] <nixternal> either by me or someone else as I might head out of town tomorrow
[20:41] <sigma_1234> nixternal: is kontact kde4 going to be compiled as well?
[20:41] <jill_> people i need help
[20:41] <frybye> re.. on the kub pc again now...
[20:41] <jill_> can you?
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> jill_: whats up?
[20:42] <nixternal> sigma_1234: yes
[20:42] <jill_> i have a bad scaner, mustek bearPaw 2448CU PRO, and i need to use it in kubuntu 710, i cant
[20:42] <jill_> i sitting on it 2 hours
[20:43] <jill_> just dont know why it doesnt works
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[20:44] <jill_> okay
[20:44] <makaveli__> l
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> jill_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersMustek
[20:44] <sigma_1234> nixternal: i have always wondered. why does it take so long to compile a package? it takes you guys days on the big crucial ones hey?
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> sigma_1234: Ever try gentoo?
[20:45] <jill_> noswednaekimm kay, thanks, loading page
[20:45] <sigma_1234> jill_: are you south african?
[20:45] <jill_> no
[20:45] <jill_> i am russian
[20:46] <xenol> anyone know what do i need to set on windows so i can access my shares on windows box w/o password?
[20:46] <sigma_1234> jhutchins_wk: nope. is it any diff to kubuntu? ive seen screenshots of it i think
[20:46] <jhutchins_wk> jill_: Scanners are mostly handled by the sane package/project.  You can find their webpage (probably through sourceforge) to see if they support your printer.
[20:47] <jill_> nosrednaekim, there are only four links.. i have 2448 and kubuntu 710, i think it is impossilbe
[20:47] <sigma_1234> asked because mustek is a south african brand
[20:47] <jhutchins_wk> sigma_1234: The thing about gentoo is it doesn't have binary packages, it has special source packages, and the package manager compiles each program with a template you can customise for your particular hardware and use.
[20:47] <frybye> I dont beleive this - it has happened again the region changed to us-english and no way to change etc...
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> sigma_1234: Still, you could take a look at the kernel compile instructions and give it a try - you won't hurt anything - just to see how much of a  chore it is.
[20:48] <frybye> anybody heard of a prob with the nvidia 8400 chip and proprietary driver...
[20:48] <frybye> ___
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> sigma_1234: For a big package like the kernel, it can take quite a while to compile.
[20:48] <reese> after adding new repos, the command is apt-get update?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> reese: yep
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> sigma_1234: For smaller, simpler packages, a few minutes.
[20:48] <navetz> is there a way to do cp ./* ~/* and not replace files that already exist but rather give it a new filename?
[20:49] <frybye> ?
[20:49] <frybye> sigma - mustek is from canada as far as i know...
[20:49] <jill_> if i will use 2400 insted of 2448 any problems maybe?
[20:50] <jill_> where shell i move *.usb file?
[20:50] <jill_> i have it on desktop
[20:51] <reese> nosrednaekim: and it updates adept, too?
[20:51] <sigma_1234> jhutchins_wk: im too scared to try compile kde4. i saw the instructions on the kde site but they scared me to death. hopefully one day a automated package compiling system can exist to save devs valuable time
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> reese: yep.. it all uses apt
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> jill_: it said on that hardware page where the other people moved them
[20:52] <taafis> sigma_1234, isnt kde4 in backports?
[20:52] <jill_> okay, sorry
[20:52] <sigma_1234> frybye: www.mustek.co.za dunno perhaps ours is a subsidiary. its listed on our stock exchange though
[20:53] <msnbot> how to instal Opera in kubuntu
[20:53] <jill_> www.kubuntu.ru
[20:53] <jill_> there
[20:53] <jill_> in downloads menu
[20:53] <msnbot> apt-get install opera says "E: Package opera hs no installation candidate" :(
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> !opera
[20:54] <sigma_1234> taafis: i have kde4. im looking for kde 4.1
[20:54] <taafis> oh, ok ;p
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: how about the daily VM?
[20:56] <taafis> isnt kde4 quite unstable?
[20:56] <malik_> hi all,
[20:56] <taafis> i also noticed that the search-filed beside the area where you type url is gone
[20:56] <malik_> i just installed kubuntu 8.04 on my new computer, it has a onboard nvidia 7100 630i
[20:57] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: nope bandwidth is way to pricey to me. when i downloaded kde4 it was about a hundred megs. thats the max i can take at a time. thats also why i can't really compile it. all those dev packages would kill my bill
[20:57] <malik_> i was unable to install  the nvidia driver inspite of all my efforts.
[20:57] <taafis> in konqueror that is
[20:57] <malik_> Can i install atleat any generic svga driver to have better resolution ??
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> malik_: what res are you getting now?
[20:58] <malik_> i have a resolution probably 640x480
[20:58] <Ayabara> where can I change the font color in kicker?
[20:58] <malik_> i need atleast some higher resolution if not exact nvidia features
[20:58] <reese> malik: have you tried to update the repos and apt-get nvidia-glx-new?
[20:59] <Ayabara> and, if I want dark background in my kde-apps, it's a color scheme I'm looking for, right?
[20:59] <malik_> yes tried every thing and in the logs i see that the bios is reporting something wrong id for my nvidia onboard card
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: yeah
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> wrong PCI-ID?
[20:59] <sigma_1234> taafis: the only gripe i have about 4.0.3 was that the plasma always ran weird errors when i launched a kde3 program. and dolphin had some minor issues . other then that it was rock solid. and im expecting 4.1 to be more so
[20:59] <malik_> yes
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> malik_: ah.... ok, can you pastebin two things for me? lspci and the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:00] <malik_> yes wait a moment please
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: 4.1 is even more beautiful than 4.0 :)
[21:01] <Ayabara> any recommendations for a dark color scheme? I've applied the Azenia theme pack, but it didn't have a dark scheme
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: for kde3? no.... kde4 has some beautiful ones
[21:01] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: ah. I'm waiting for the kde4.1 packages
[21:02] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: are you running kde 4.1?
[21:02] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: in a VM
[21:03] <malik_> hello, i have placed the files here http://patteriol.dps.uibk.ac.at/~malik/xorg/
[21:04] <malik_> nosrednaekim: can you get the files from the link above please..
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> yep
[21:04] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: is it possible for you to take me a screenshot of kontact kde4 ? the one on the kde site was from in windows so looked a bit off.
[21:05] <sigma_1234> the kmail screen in particular
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> sure
[21:05] <sigma_1234> thanks:)
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> malik_: wow.. ok, lots of problems there
[21:06] <malik_> yes
[21:06] <malik_> please if u can help me out
[21:06] <nosrednaekim> let me clean that up for you
[21:06] <malik_> i will be grateful
[21:07] <malik_> i have been messing up with it using lots of tutorials available online
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah... lets go basic here.
[21:07] <malik_> yes
[21:08] <Ayabara> is it possible to configure the font color for the tabs in konsole? they didn't follow my color theme..
[21:08] <malik_> when i try installing the restricted driver using the hardware driver manager in kubuntu, at the reboot xserver hangs up at starting the bootup scripts /etc/init.d/rc.local
[21:09] <titan_> is there a linux podcast other than that prillo dude who
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> malik_: ah... I was just about to ask you if you could get the driver installed
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> malik_: ok, we'll go to "nv" instead
[21:10] <Taza> Is there an easy-to-use interface for wine for kubuntu?
[21:11] <malik_> how do i do that ?
[21:11] <malik_> brb
[21:11] <Taza> My brother wants to play stuff like COD4 on his computer, but I'm DONE fixing it over and over and over again so I'm installing him Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Remix
[21:11] <Taza> (How stable is the KDE4 remix?)
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> Taza: stable... but not as many features and some annoyances as well
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> malik_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15859/ replace your xorg.conf with that
[21:12] <Taza> nosrednaekim: Would the annoyances bother a home user who knows nothing about Linux?
[21:12] <sigma_1234> Taza: wait for 4.1
[21:12] <Taza> Or are they like "when I recompile X KDE4's weather widget refuses to start"?
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> Taza: maybe, maybe not.... but kde3 does have a nice easy wine manager
[21:12] <Taza> sigma_1234: Not if you are unwilling to explain why.
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> :P
[21:12] <Taza> nosrednaekim: That might be a major selling point. :P
[21:14] <malik_> yes i do it now
[21:14] <Taza> "When I try to run YAEWS after changing to an Xfree86 from 2004 and compiling it with optimizations in the desktop replacement transparent terminal, Amarok causes the weather widget to flicker whenever I refresh it"
[21:14] <sigma_1234> Taza: plasma in 4.0 has a few annoying bugs. tends to freeze the desktop for periods
[21:14] <Taza> sigma_1234: Thanks, that's useful to know.
[21:15] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: have you posted that screenshot for me yet?
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> ah! sorry :)
[21:15] <Taza> (What "annoyances" usually mean when it comes to stable KDE stuff.)
[21:15] <Taza> How's the "Nifty widget status" for KDE4?
[21:15] <jhutchins_wk> Taza: There are a lot of components and programs that haven't been ported to 4 yet.  You get a slightly different look, some different features, and nowhere near as much software.
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> Taza: As it stands now, KDE4 is mostly just a demo.
[21:16] <Taza> jhutchins_wk: k.
[21:16] <Taza> I mostly use Xfce4 myself, so I wouldn't know
[21:16] <Taza> I just know my bro will love Amarok and he won't have the patience I had with Xfce4 and Amarok
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> 3.5.x is still the pick for "I have work to do with this computer".
[21:16] <tempest> Is there a way to check that the onboard video card is disabled ?
[21:16] <Taza> tempest: lspci?
[21:16] <jhutchins_wk> Taza: re: the brother: you might consider ltsp or keeping a restore image.
[21:17] <malik_> nosrednaekim: should i restart the X server now ?
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> yes
[21:17] <Taza> jhutchins_wk: Actually, I'm first installing linux and then running Windows in VMware with dd'd backup images.
[21:17] <malik_> ok, please wait i will be back
[21:17] <tempest> taza i'll try ive somewhat made myself confused trying to get it right
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: lol...the VM died...
[21:17] <Taza> tempest: If it normally shows up in lspci and it doesn't after you've disabled it - congrats, it has been disabled.
[21:18] <Taza> If it shows up, it hasn't been disabled.
[21:18] <sigma_1234> lol
[21:18] <Taza> (Of course, if you only want to disable the output...)
[21:18] <tempest> taza it is still there
[21:19] <tempest> ive only been using kubuntu for a month
[21:19] <Taza> tempest: And you were trying to disable it fully? You didn't succeed.
[21:19] <tim__> taza: currently using kde4. It is usable as a window manager, but its deeply unfinished. You cant move widgets around the kicker bar without removing them all first, it freezes and crashes about once a day, and apart from the theming, which you can have in 3 if you configure it, the features arnt really there yet. On the plus, there is some nice compiz type stuff integrated, and some of the widgets have a different feel.
[21:19] <tim__> Personaly I'm continuing to use it because its not inconvenient enough to bother rolling back.
[21:19] <tempest> lol taza i can see that
[21:20] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: np i found one at ars technica. it looks cool just the print icon is ancient compared to kde 3. suppose that came from reinventing the wheel:(
[21:20] <Taza> tim__: Thanks, that's all I need.
[21:20] <Taza> tim__: I might like 4 but my brother wants 3 based on that.
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> :)
[21:20] <Taza> Of course I don't touch KDE myself.
[21:21] <tempest> so now what do i do so that it will use the nvidia and not the onboard ?
[21:21] <Taza> If the screen is small, Xfce4, if the screen is large... wmii. <3 <3 <3
[21:21] <Taza> (So fine, I'm a HARDCORE user. I might install Kubuntu and then wmii on it though.)
[21:22] <tim__> xfce, why did I ever stop...
[21:22] <Taza> As it is, I'm forced to use Xubuntu. ;_;
[21:22] <Taza> Because I'm on an Eee.
[21:22] <tim__> but xfce is da win
[21:22] <titan_> forced to use?
[21:22] <Taza> And I don't want a designed-for-5-year-olds interface. I want to get work done.
[21:23] <Taza> titan_: No space for Kubuntu / Ubuntu.
[21:23] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: whats that mobile phone section in kontact for? any hope of built in win mobile syncing this time round?:-)
[21:23] <Taza> In fact, not even space for Xubuntu + KDE
[21:23] <titan_> k is just the KDE envio
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: maybe some integration with kpilot there...
[21:24] <titan_> LOL wasnt reading the post.. lmao
[21:24] <titan_> xubuntu is the smallest fo the three right?
[21:24] <mefisto_> Taza: what about advanced desktop mode on the eee? I mean with the default xandros install
[21:24] <Taza> mefisto_: Xandros? Eww.
[21:25] <Taza> I want compatibility and that's something Xandros doesn't offer.
[21:25] <Taza> I have Xubuntu + Amarok + Wine for most of the sw I want.
[21:26] <titan_> in the movie hackers
[21:26] <mefisto_> just that the eee has all that, just not the kde desktop (until it's enabled)
[21:26] <sigma_1234> thank g*d theres a way to disable that widget adder in the corner. its so irritating when it pops out everytime you close a fullscreen window
[21:26] <titan_> what was Dade Murphys computer? that he used to hack into the tv station
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !ot
[21:30] <sigma_1234> and dolphin got tabs:) its on
[21:32] <mefisto_> sigma_1234: is this dolphin on kde4?
[21:33] <sigma_1234> yeah. 4.1
[21:34] <ctionParsnip> hey all
[21:34] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: dunno if you are one for eyecandy... but some of the kwin stuff is looking nice
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> ctionParsnip: hey! where did the A go?
[21:35] <ctionParsnip> dunno man :(
[21:35] <ctionParsnip> im just seting up fluxubuntu :)
[21:35] <ctionParsnip> its sweet
[21:36] <ctionParsnip> i'm just modifying /etc/samba/smbusers
[21:36] <ctionParsnip> but im confused by the syntax
[21:36] <malik_> nosrednaekim: i m back the Xserver dint start
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> malik_: any errors?
[21:36] <malik_> i had only one cursor blinking there
[21:36] <ctionParsnip> I have a website saying it needs <username> = "<username>"
[21:36] <nosrednaekim> how did you restart it?
[21:37] <ctionParsnip> so do i need to have: andy = "andy" in it?
[21:37] <malik_> then i rebooted in  recovery mode and did xfix to get this gui again
[21:37] <ctionParsnip> can anyone advise
[21:37] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: id love to see it but it doesnt ever work for me even though i have the nvidia drivers installed
[21:37] <ctionParsnip> ive ran sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[21:38] <ctionParsnip> and created an andy account
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> malik_: and stoll on 640x480?
[21:38] <malik_> yes :(
[21:38] <jhutchins_wk> ctionParsnip: Read the samba docs.  You set up smb passwords with the smbpasswd program I believe.
[21:39] <malik_> what should i do now ?
[21:39] <ctionParsnip> jhutchins_wk: done, but i need to create the file accoriding to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[21:40] <nosrednaekim> malik_: apparently this card needs a proprietary driver... some of those inbuilt ones do
[21:41] <malik_> there is none provided on the mainboard manufacturer's site. on the nvidia website there is generic driver for nivida gefore 7 series
[21:41] <frybye> re: what is the probable reason for the region switching from germany to us-english and there being no way to change it to any other language.. if I try to change or add locations it says "command not found"??
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> but apparently you also have problems with the proprietary driver.... sounds like a problem
[21:41] <malik_> where can i get the properietry driver ?
[21:41] <nosrednaekim> malik_: the one from repositories...
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> or use the restricted drivers manager
[21:42] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: have you tried compiling amarok 2 in kde4.1?
[21:42] <malik_> i tried this with add remove programs and triedm nvidia-newm and nvidia-old both , but none worked
[21:42] <frybye> if the system-configuration device is broken - how can it be re-installed or similar...?
[21:42] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: nope.... but I have Neon
[21:43] <tempest> nvidia is just a pain
[21:43] <malik_> :p
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> malik_: uhhg....
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> ok... lets see if we can squeeze some higher resolutions out of this vesa driver
[21:43] <frybye> tempest: I would tend to agree.. my system seems screwed since I upgraded today from onboard nvidia 6100 to a pci-e 8400 grafic card...
[21:44] <sigma_1234> i dont like neon. its like running kde4 in kde4. the fonts are all stuffed up
[21:44] <malik_> yes that would be great at this time..
[21:44] <mefisto_> tempest: I thought ati was a pain
[21:44] <maduser> where are the boot scripts?
[21:44] <maduser> I mean the place to make sure apps exec at boot
[21:45] <nosrednaekim>  /etc/rc.local I think
[21:45] <frybye> anybody have an idea how to repair/re-install the system-config device.. not able to change the region now...?
[21:45] <maduser> thanks
[21:45] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: copy over your kde4 globals
[21:46] <nosrednaekim> malik_: go into system settings->monitor and enter admin mode
[21:46] <frybye> as far as I know there is a config script or similar someplace with loads of settings in it - what is it called please and where do I find it..
[21:46] <tempest> mefisto_ I've only used kubuntu for about a month and the biggest problem i've had is with my nvidia card... at least the legacy drivers work better for it.  I can't get any resolutions in the system settings only place ive ever been able to change them is in the nvidia settings thing.
[21:47] <frybye> btw despite me being in germany with a german regional setup I am a british disab. air force veteran...
[21:47] <malik_> yes i did
[21:47] <frybye> once in a while folks on engl. language sites not to keen to help a "German..."
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> malik_: does the slider bar go any more to the right?
[21:47] <jhutchins_wk> maduser: The scripts that start system components and services are in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ (usually symlinked to /etc/init.d).  They are started by symlinks from /etc/rc.d/rc#.d, where # is the runlevel.
[21:48] <malik_> yes it does
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> maduser: You can run other things at boot from rc.local or you can set it up in the init system.
[21:48] <malik_> upto 2048x1536
[21:48] <maduser> I just need kwin to run so could I just type kwin into rc.local?
[21:49] <malik_> should i change and then restart x ?
[21:49] <malik_> or some further changes to be made ?
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> malik_: yeah... change it to the max res that your monitor supports and hit apply
[21:50] <nosrednaekim> you shouldn't have to reboot
[21:50] <malik_> ok
[21:50] <frybye> is there a way to set the region using a command in the terminal???
[21:51] <frybye> some kind soul gonna pick up on this problem???
[21:51] <malik_> it says you need to restart x
[21:52] <malik_>  /etc/init.d/restart kdm ??
[21:52] <frybye> nosrednaekim: do you have a tip how to change the region setting when the gui dosent let me do it...?
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> malik_: log out and restart it there
[21:53] <nosrednaekim> frybye: nope... I don't
[21:53] <mefisto_> frybye: what's wrong with the gui? you mean system settings?
[21:53] <frybye> ok nosrednaekim thanx anyhows...
[21:53] <MetaMorfoziS> Hey guys!
[21:53] <MetaMorfoziS> IS there any webadmin of kubuntu.org?
[21:53] <MetaMorfoziS> http://kubuntu.org/download.php#latest
[21:53] <frybye> yes the system settings are s t u c k on us-english
[21:53] <MetaMorfoziS> The site bugs here
[21:54] <nosrednaekim> MetaMorfoziS: Riddel and ryanakca I think
[21:54] <frybye> no other regions even though when I look for language packages the de-de seems to be installed for Germany...
[21:54] <mefisto_> frybye: so nothing else in the list, just US English?
[21:54] <frybye> mefisto_: right...
[21:55] <frybye> only us-english and it says "command not found" when trying to install other languages..
[21:55] <frybye> or other regions if one wants to be exact...
[21:55] <frybye> there is code missing - but what...?
[21:56] <frybye> it looks a bit as if the system config device itself is only partly available - or broken...?
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> frybye: run system settings from a konsole and see the exact output
[21:57] <frybye> nosrednaekim: how do I do that...?
[21:57] <frybye> sorry - but you know i think that I am very new...
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> open a konsole and type "systemsettings"
[21:58] <mefisto_> frybye: what do you get when you type "locale" in terminal? us-english?
[21:59] <frybye> it started the gui with the system settings just like when I go for it via the menus.. eh hang on pse..
[21:59] <frybye> no in the terminal it says de_DE for locale...
[22:00] <frybye> but the keyboard and all the stuff is us-english - like the setting in the gui for the region...
[22:00] <melkart> i just installed oidentd (i just need any identd, should i have installed an easier one?), but still irc servers complain that they dont get an ident response... must i configure it?
[22:01] <frybye> mefisto_: to be exact it is de_DE.UTF-8
[22:01] <frybye> if the keyboard knew about that would be a lot easier.. ;)
[22:02] <jhutchins_wk> melkart: Are you behind a firewall?
[22:02] <frybye> I am on the other pc right now - so I dont have the yzyzyz problems here for instance..
[22:02] <frybye> mefisto_: so what do you think???
[22:02] <melkart> jhutchins_wk: not that i know of... i am just a dumb kubuntu 7.10 user...
[22:03] <d_mitry> i am wondering how to listen to wav files in kubuntu 6.06. could someone help me?
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> d_mitry: amarok will do it
[22:03] <mefisto_> frybye: so it's just the keyboard set to us english, everything else is as it was before and the way you want it?
[22:03] <frybye> d_mitry: just out of interest - why are u using 6.06??
[22:04] <frybye> and not 8.04 for instance...?
[22:04] <d_mitry> 256 mb of ram, fryby. :P
[22:04] <d_mitry> 7.10 requires more.
[22:04] <d_mitry> at least ubuntu. i only had ubuntu 8.04, 7.10 and kubuntu 6.06 CDs.
[22:04] <frybye> i c - soon you can pic it up with the thrown away cans and bottles in the street - so cheap...
[22:04] <d_mitry> nosrednaekim: amarok opens it and then says playlist finished. no error returned.
[22:05] <frybye> or the whole pc is a wee bit out of date and you cant get the right ram - or???
[22:05] <d_mitry> it's a laptop. old laptop at that.
[22:05] <d_mitry> i've never taken a laptop apart before. i guess there's a first time for everything, but that's not priority yet.
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> don't think thats the problem :P
[22:08] <d_mitry> nosrednaekim: then what could be the problem? i installed 6.06 and this is the first time i'm connecting it to the internet. i expect that it doesn't have support for restricted formats.
[22:08] <ahmed> hello all
[22:08] <ahmed> any arabic kubuntu user in her
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> dmbkiwi: yeah... but wav isn't restricted
[22:08] <d_mitry> i thought that it is.
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> dmbkiwi: you should use xubuntu 8.04
[22:09] <d_mitry> well, let's suppose that it isn't. do you know why amarok could be behaving like this?
[22:09] <d_mitry> one day.
[22:09] <d_mitry> i sense auto-completion problems. ;)
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> actually, the newer kubuntu's use the same amount of ram, you just have to run the alternate installer
[22:10] <d_mitry> well, i'd rather fix this problem now. i'll upgrade eventually.
[22:11] <mefisto_> I run kubuntu on an old laptop with 192 mb ram
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> ok... but problems are far easier to fix in 8.04
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> specially since we are all familiar with it
[22:12] <d_mitry> heh, ok. what would happen if i tried upgrading now? would i be told that my system requirements don't meet the latest version's?
[22:12] <d_mitry> mefisto_: which version?
[22:13] <mefisto_> d_mitry: 8.04
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> no.... I guess you could upgrade directly too
[22:13] <d_mitry> i'll attempt upgrading now. we'll see what happens.
[22:14] <d_mitry> but firstly, nosrednaekim, would you advise that i upgrade?
[22:14] <shane2peru> how do I install java plugins on 64bit?  I thought I had it but some sites don't work
[22:14] <mefisto_> d_mitry: I don't think it's any slower than 7.10 or 7.04 before that. bootup time is faster
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> dmbkiwi: no.... I prefer fresh installs especially for huge jumps like that
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> but definately get something newer
[22:14] <d_mitry> well, would i get any unexpected surprises?
[22:15] <mefisto_> who is dmbkiwi? is dmbkiwi d_mitry ?
[22:15] <d_mitry> unsuccessful auto-completion, mefisto_ :P
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> d_mitry: don't think so
[22:16] <frybye> mefisto_: well the keyboard is wrong and I assume the fact that only us-english is shown in system config region settings indicates that other stuff will be wrong??
[22:16] <d_mitry> well, i'll do it. on a side-note, i doubt a surprise can be expected.
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> haha... true :)
[22:16] <d_mitry> btw, why wouldn't you advise upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04, nosrednaekim?
[22:17] <frybye> someone in kub-de is talking about needing a langpack but dosent know the name in kde?? any clue...?
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> d_mitry: fixed bugs, fixed multimedia issues, newer versions of software, more support
[22:17] <frybye> d_mitry: he hasnt got enough ram himself - jus that I think...
[22:18] <d_mitry> ok. let me look around adept.
[22:23] <d_mitry> nosrednaekim: now i have another question. why is it that `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' says 0 upgraded, etc? :P
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> dmbkiwi: because you have to update your repositories
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[22:24] <d_mitry> thanks. :)
[22:25] <d_mitry> nosrednaekim: is it not possible to go from 6.06 to 8.04 in one go if downloading the upgrade?
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> yes... it is possible
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> but probably quite buggy
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> not many people do that
[22:26] <d_mitry> i'll take the long route then.
[22:28] <Roby__> has anyone tried kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix?
[22:28] <jessejazza> not yet
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> yes
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> d_mitry: don't upgrade step by step...
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> do a fresh install
[22:29] <Roby__> it's very buggy
[22:29] <Taza> Uh
[22:29] <Taza> I can't download the latest Kubuntu...
[22:30] <d_mitry> nosrednaekim: is the kubuntu 8.04 cd shipped for free?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> yes
[22:30] <jessejazza> yes
[22:31] <Taza> Also, it gives a "REPORT AS A BUG APIC BROKEN"
[22:31] <d_mitry> oh, my. i should've known. *searches*
[22:31] <Taza> Help plz?
[22:31] <Taza> Can someone point me towards Kubuntu latest AMD64 link?
[22:31] <Taza> Seeing, uh, that the site is broken right now.
[22:32] <mefisto_> Taza: how about finding a torrent?
[22:32] <Taza> mefisto_: Preferably an official source
[22:32] <Taza> "Choose a location near you: MYSQL FAILURE"
[22:32] <Taza> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php <--- BROKEN. Can anyone here fix it?
[22:33] <Taza> I need i386 alternative
[22:33] <Taza> Apic is broken, no download links, I can't install no matter what I do
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> Taza: you can turn off apic
[22:34] <Taza> nosrednaekim: Doesn't work
[22:34] <Taza> LiveCD doesn't boot into X when I do
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> ah
[22:34] <Taza> (I f6'd it and added "noapic" as livecd option)
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> if you are doing wine... use the 32 bit version as well
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> 64 bit is added headache
[22:35] <Taza> I think it's the M2N4 doing it
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> try downloading from the ubuntu site
[22:35] <Taza> I gotta update my *bios* for Kubuntu to work?
[22:35] <Taza> Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.
[22:36] <mefisto_> Taza: where are you downloading from?
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> !language
[22:36] <Taza> mefisto_: NOTHING works.
[22:36] <Taza> mefisto_: Try to download the file from the site
[22:36] <Taza> nosrednaekim: What's so offensive about a religious figure on a pogo stick?
[22:36] <d_mitry> mefisto_, frybye, and nosrednaekim, thanks for your help today. i'll order the kubuntu 8.04 cd and upgrade. bye!
[22:37] <mefisto_> Taza: where are you?
[22:37] <Taza> mefisto_: The site at kubuntu.org has a MySQL problem.
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> Taza: its offensive to Christians... like me
[22:37] <Taza> Would you think Jesus wouldn't like a pogo stick?
[22:37] <mefisto_> but almost anything is offensive
[22:38] <Taza> I was going to say "Jesus [censored] Christ [censored] on a [censored] while [censored] [censored] [censored]"
[22:38] <Taza> But then I remembered it's a family-friendly channel
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> !attitude
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> I hate it when its the wrong factoid
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> !coc
[22:39] <Taza> So just tuning down my language isn't enough, I should avoid offending everyone who could ever possibly get offended?
[22:39] <Taza> Sorry, but I side with mefisto_ here.
[22:39] <Taza> I mean, you're offending MY religion now.
[22:40] <mefisto_> my lack of religion is offended
[22:40] <mefisto_> but seriously, where are you Taza?
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> ha
[22:40] <Taza> mefisto_: Finland. Funet is my preferred mirror.
[22:40] <MetaMorfoziS> Does anybody tried kubuntu on an usb stick?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> !usb
[22:41] <mefisto_> Taza: http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/
[22:41] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[22:41] <MetaMorfoziS> but
[22:41] <MetaMorfoziS> What is my problem is that i want to get auto hw detection
[22:41] <Taza> mefisto_: You could just have asked me "what mirror do you want". :P
[22:41] <MetaMorfoziS> because if i install it on my pendrive, that's not the same as a livecd that loads it's modules at every boot
[22:41] <MetaMorfoziS> or iam wrong?
[22:42] <mefisto_> MetaMorfoziS: I think you are wrong
[22:42] <Taza> MetaMorfoziS: There is a way to get that pendrive.
[22:42] <Taza> MetaMorfoziS: Most "Ubuntu on Eee" guides link to that.
[22:42] <Taza> It requires either a windows box or intense familiarity with some commands though
[22:43] <Taza> Yes, it's easier on windows
[22:43] <C0D3N9N3> what have i missed
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> the open sourcing of Windows
[22:44] <Taza> Wine 9.7 Windows Vista.
[22:45] <Taza> mefisto_: Installing Ubuntu to an USB drive doesn't use the same autodetection
[22:47] <Taza> I *HATE* AJAX when it's unnecessary
[22:53] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to get "sudo modprobe visor"  to load, or run on startup every time?
[22:53] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: add visor to the /etc/mudoles file
[22:53] <Odd-rationale>  /etc/modules
[22:53] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: just put visor ?
[22:54] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: yes.
[22:54] <shane2peru> Odd-rationale: ooh, that is a file, right I knew there was an easy way, thanks
[22:54] <C0D3N9N3> tell me ACID BURN doesnt look just hot at the end of the movie
[22:54] <C0D3N9N3> thinks she plays Halo
[22:55] <shane2peru> thanks Odd-rationale
[22:55] <Odd-rationale> shane2peru: np
[22:55] <C0D3N9N3> the bright blue nail polish .. MMMM
[22:55] <Odd-rationale> C0D3N9N3: don't you think you're a tad bit offtopic?
[22:56] <C0D3N9N3> well .. i came in late and wasnt really in the topic to start
[22:56] <theFATMAN> hello everyone. i am running ubuntu 8.04, but i want to switch to kubuntu. how can i do this without a fresh install?
[22:56] <C0D3N9N3> besides... isnt it my deal to see if we could start a new topic?
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:56] <C0D3N9N3> mmmm sudo
[22:57] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, will that also install, kde, kdm?
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: then you can choose kde in your login sessions menu.
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: not kdm, i don't think... but you can install that yourself if you want and change gdm to kdm...
[22:58] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, will kubuntu run on gdm?
[22:58] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: of course
[22:58] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: just choose kde in the gdm sessions menu
[22:58] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, will that replace ubuntu?
[22:58] <C0D3N9N3> so ODD-Rationale are you a level 12 paladin
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: no, you can choose gnome from the gdm sessions menu and login back to gnome...
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> C0D3N9N3: what's that:?
[22:59] <mefisto_> theFATMAN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm) will let you choose whether you want gdm or kdm
[22:59] <C0D3N9N3> some one of extreme power
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> C0D3N9N3: hmm, i haven't found that out yet...
[23:00] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, thank you, does it matter that i have an AMD 64bit system?
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: no, i don't think so
[23:00] <theFATMAN> mefisto_, thank you as well
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN: also, if you would like to complete remove gnome, i can give you a link on that...
[23:01] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, please, cuz i keep having display issues
[23:01] <mefisto_> Odd-rationale: can I have that link?
[23:01] <C0D3N9N3> so is this just QA or is there an actually exchange of ideaS? cause i am not sure i want to help everyone get up to speed
[23:01] <Odd-rationale> one moment...
[23:01] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, no p
[23:02] <Odd-rationale> theFATMAN, mefisto_: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[23:02] <theFATMAN> Odd-rationale, mucho gracias
[23:02] <theFATMAN> peace
[23:03] <C0D3N9N3>
[23:03] <C0D3N9N3> 謝謝您
[23:05] <C0D3N9N3> I think IRC should be a mix of QA. recommendations, and the latest news in new software... anyone else feel the same way?
[23:05] <Odd-rationale> C0D3N9N3: you may be able to find a channel for something like that.
[23:05] <Taza> Linux ready for desktop my [censored] [censored]
[23:05] <Taza> "HEY, KERNEL PANIC."
[23:06] <C0D3N9N3> taza? you dont think linux is ready for the desktop world? or the main OS?
[23:06] <Taza> "NOT ENOUGH? HAVE ANOTHER."
[23:06] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: I'm very close to just going "[censored] it", installing Windows and just warezing the necessary software to make it work the way I want
[23:07] <Taza> It'd be a five-minute-job with a shell script for Linux IF I COULD GET THE [censored] THING TO BOOT.
[23:07] <Taza> (also, I wub my [censored]-script
[23:08] <C0D3N9N3> taza? would you care to explain.. cause i am losing you?
[23:08] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: M2N4. The installer goes "KERNEL PANIC" every time I try to boot
[23:08] <Taza> Asus M2N4, "try with noapic", KERNEL PANIC.
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> Taza: did you check the cd for errors?
[23:09] <Taza> Yes.
[23:09] <Taza> Every NORMAL problem is out of the way.
[23:09] <Taza> There is no pebkac at work here.
[23:09] <Taza> This is a problem in Ubuntu.
[23:09] <Taza> Or possibly the motherboard
[23:09] <C0D3N9N3> mmmm... hope it isnt a remote machine HEHEHEHE
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> Taza: have you tried booting the cd on another machine? maybe it is a hardware issue...
[23:10] <C0D3N9N3> well, i would look at your logs, find out when it started happening and then remove software around that time
[23:10] <Taza> Odd-rationale: Are you a bot?
[23:10] <C0D3N9N3> no, i am sure you installed some bad stuff
[23:10] <Taza> Odd-rationale: Asus M2N4 + noapic
[23:10] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: Fresh empty machine
[23:11] <Taza> The LiveCD throws a KERNEL PANIC
[23:11] <Odd-rationale> Taza: i'm becmoing one...
[23:11] <Taza> Odd-rationale: I can see, but this isn't a pebkac. Or a normal issue.
[23:11] <Taza> This is an ubuntu bug.
[23:11] <Taza> Apparently around since 7.04
[23:11] <Taza> Also, booting with noapic results in no x
[23:12] <Taza> What is this, 1998?
[23:12] <Taza> Example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=672096
[23:12] <Taza> Example: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=2ca9c8cc280af9e91e22363f74d93c35&t=334220
[23:13] <MetaMorfoziS> So anybody here tried kubuntu on a pendrive?
[23:13] <MetaMorfoziS> if i did what !usb said above
[23:13] <MetaMorfoziS> then the auto hw detection remains?
[23:14] <Taza> !usb
[23:14] <MetaMorfoziS> Because i think if i just install the livecd to the usbstick, then it will configured for that hw where i installed that
[23:14] <MetaMorfoziS> Taza > read again, what i said.
[23:14] <MetaMorfoziS> Or just roll back the channel's log with 5 minute
[23:14] <Taza> MetaMorfoziS: I checked it to see if it was the guide I used
[23:14] <Taza> Yes, the FromUSBStick manual approach is what I did and it worked
[23:15] <Taza> Okay
[23:15] <Taza> X is still booting
[23:15] <Taza> AFTER 400 seconds on a 5ghz equilevant with 2gb of 800mhz memory!
[23:15] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[23:16] <MetaMorfoziS> I think you need to tweak that crappy config a bit, to get it faster;]
[23:16] <Taza> It's the livecd
[23:16] <Taza> Something is DEEPLY wrong.
[23:16] <MetaMorfoziS> woosh
[23:16] <Taza> I updated to latest stable BIOS too
[23:16] <MetaMorfoziS> you messing with usbthing?
[23:16] <Taza> No
[23:17] <Taza> I'm trying to install Kubuntu
[23:17] <Taza> It. Just. Isn't. Working.
[23:17] <C0D3N9N3> so.. let me get this str8? youre having issues with a live cd?
[23:17] <Taza> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC.
[23:17] <Taza> Kernel Panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn´t work!.
[23:17] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: Yes.-
[23:17] <MetaMorfoziS> Taza > have you tried the alternate install?
[23:17] <MetaMorfoziS> That's the same, just not qt...
[23:17] <Taza> MetaMorfoziS: Well, lemme see all the problems with that.
[23:17] <C0D3N9N3> as in when you runt he OS or trying to do the install?
[23:18] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: As in, install kubuntu on the live cd is giving me a KERNEL PANIC
[23:18] <Taza> I have to constantly edit out swearing.
[23:18] <C0D3N9N3> install on your HARD DRIVE?
[23:19] <C0D3N9N3> cause if youre gettting issues with the install, first try a new disk. if that doesnt work, check your system for hard ware issues
[23:22] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: Use GOOGLE?
[23:22] <Taza> Or perhaps FORUM SEARCH?
[23:23] <C0D3N9N3> i would use the forums,
[23:23] <C0D3N9N3> have you tried a new CD?
[23:23] <Taza> They have this same problem all over
[23:23] <Taza> No resolution
[23:23] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: Please don't make me swear.
[23:23] <C0D3N9N3> f[-}ck
[23:23] <Taza> IT IS NOT A PEBCAK AND THE HARDWARE ITSELF WORKS FINE.
[23:24] <Taza> I can query that to you in several colours every minute for the next hour if that doesn't work.
[23:25] <C0D3N9N3> well. TAZA panics are either software or hardware.
[23:25] <Taza> It was the quiet option
[23:25] <Taza> How that can do that is beyond me
[23:26] <C0D3N9N3> if your FRICKING cd is the issue burn a new CD. if if your hardware list out the hardware and check the forums
[23:26] <Taza> You, my friend, are terminally stupid.
[23:26] <Taza> You are stupid, obstinate and inconsiderate beyond any belief.
[23:26] <C0D3N9N3> well, i am sure i will take that.
[23:27] <C0D3N9N3> ;)
[23:27] <Taza> And believe me, it took considerable effort not to just randomly sling insults.
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> please don't be name calling. thanks!
[23:27] <C0D3N9N3> yeah. i am sure.
[23:27] <Taza> I'm not name calling, just stating a fact.
[23:27] <C0D3N9N3> .. interesting.
[23:27] <Taza> It was a mobo compatibility issue with the timer.
[23:27] <Taza> Which eventually some helpful soul posted the solution to on a page 2 of a 7.04 thread.
[23:28] <C0D3N9N3> if what was said doesnt help.. YOU know just ignore and move on.
[23:28] <deadsouls> how can i force adept not to upgrade a certain package?
[23:28] <C0D3N9N3> Taza..IGNORED and has moved on
[23:29] <Taza> Pray the lord that he giveth me the ability to punch people in the face over standard TCP/IP.
[23:29] <C0D3N9N3> i dont pray
[23:29] <C0D3N9N3> so you go ahead with yours
[23:29] <deadsouls> how can i force adept not to upgrade wine?
[23:29] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: It was a standard coder IRC prayer.
[23:29] <Taza> deadsouls: IIRC there was an +ignore aptitude flag
[23:30] <Taza> It's called "apt pinning", that might help in a google search
[23:30] <C0D3N9N3> ..Taza, figure it out. I really dont care for your soul or pray or what ever you say LMAO.. youre a joke in my mind
[23:30] <deadsouls> Taza, thanks
[23:30] <C0D3N9N3> peopke who insult in an IRC really have no clue
[23:31] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: I'd explain you the technical specifications beyond this issue, but I don't think you speak linux.
[23:31] <Taza> I also HATE black magic so could someone try to make some sense of this?
[23:32] <Taza> C0D3N9N3: Harass me with ctcp's and I'll just take it up with the network staff.
[23:32] <Taza> M2N4 + Ubuntu means that it spouts a kernel panic with something about apic if quiet is enabled - or quiet and noapic work too.
[23:33] <Taza> If this works, however, kubuntu takes forevarrr to boot livecd desktop
[23:33] <Taza> As in, ten times longer than it does on my cheap MSI mobo with a system with a third of the CPU and RAM
[23:35] <Taza> This problem is making it impossible to use. :/
[23:38] <Flare183> What is the default font for kubuntu?
[23:43] <Flare183> What is the default font for kubuntu?
[23:43] <Flare183> please someone answer
[23:43] <Flare183> me
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> Flare183: idk...
[23:43] <Flare183> ....
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> is that a good enough answer... ;)
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> Flare183: well, i'm using arch+kdemod and i use Bitstream Vera Sans 9
[23:44] <Flare183> ok i'll try that
[23:44] <deadsouls> how can i specify which version of wine for apt-get to install?
[23:44] <Flare183> for which one the Gereral or what?
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> Flare183: yes, general
[23:45] <Flare183> but what about the others?
[23:45] <fale> hi
[23:45] <Flare183> !hi
[23:46] <fale> Flare183: :D
[23:46] <Flare183> I'm serious
[23:47] <fale> Flare183: I belive you
[23:47] <Odd-rationale> Flare183: same. except for the fixed width which uses bitstream vera sans mono 9
[23:47] <Flare183> ok thanks Odd-rationale
[23:47] <fale> Flare183: but was funny, imho, call a bot to say hi ;)
[23:48] <Flare183> yeah
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> !funny | fale
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> ;)
[23:50] <fale> Odd-rationale: :D