[12:00] <|trey|> I don't see how something thats "being fixed" can be getting worse every time X restarts  :/
[12:01] <andred> Are there daily ISOs of Hoary like there was for Warty?
[12:02] <|trey|> andred, not sure about daily, but there are devel images, yes
[12:02] <andred> |trey|, cool, from where?
[12:04] <|trey|> andred, http://archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/
[12:04] <baluba> hi all
[12:04] <Quest-Master> :(
[12:04] <Quest-Master> jcole? ficusplanet?
[12:04] <baluba> anyone has IE6 running under wine on ubuntu?
[12:05] <spacey`ki> hwat was the correct way to add a self compiled kernel to the system?
[12:05] <andred> |trey|, thanks
[12:05] <spacey`ki> some sort of package creation needed right?
[12:05] <|trey|> spacey, kernel-package
[12:05] <guptan> I'm trying to install smartlink modem under ubuntu, where can I find package kernel-image for ubuntu?
[12:05] <|trey|> spacey, install and "man make-kpkg"
[12:06] <Quest-Master> baluba: Why do you want to run IE?!
[12:06] <Quest-Master> Btw
[12:06] <Quest-Master> You can run IE in CrossOver
[12:06] <spacey`ki> |trey|, thnx. just what i needed
[12:06] <goonie> can anyone tell me what the hw_random module really does? I get: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
[12:06] <goonie>   (/lib/modules/2.6.4-52-default/kernel/drivers/char/hw_random.ko):
[12:06] <goonie>   Input output error
[12:06] <|trey|> guptan, umm... thats the debian name for 'linux-image'... which is in 'main'
[12:07] <baluba> Quest-Master, you can guess it :) got to test my damn work on the crappy browser
[12:07] <guptan> |trey|, I have linux-image installed, still smartlink packages ask for kernel-image
[12:07] <Quest-Master> Thought so. :)
[12:07] <Quest-Master> You'll need CrossOver for that.
[12:07] <Quest-Master> It's commercial, but you can get a free version off of CVS.
[12:07] <baluba> Quest-Master, that's not free and i previously ran IE on debian. but in ubuntu doesn't start
[12:08] <gen> i'm partitoning a new (slave) drive with qtparted, ubuntu already on the master of course. i'm here to ask the difference between extended and primary partition?
[12:08] <socomm> baluba: Why would you want to use IE?
[12:08] <gen> and which would i choose for the data slave drive
[12:08] <baluba> Quest-Master, a well cvs. i'll take a look. tnx
[12:08] <|trey|> baluba, I've seen Crossover on Ubuntu... supposed to be getting a copy actually  :)
[12:09] <Quest-Master> I can't get Photoshop to work on Crossover for my life. :(
[12:09] <Quest-Master> I wish Adobe made a Linux version like they have one for Mac.
[12:09] <baluba> socomm, because is not standard and thus you can't rely in your validating html to work
[12:09] <gen> anyone help?
[12:09] <guptan> |trey|, just check this link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=smartlink . I've all packages mentioned there already installed, but kernel-image
[12:09] <socomm> baluba: There are sites that will test your site on different browsers for you.
[12:10] <confrey> |trey|, I tried zinf, it's fine... thansk
[12:10] <|trey|> guptan, everything that says 'kernel-image' should read 'linux-image' there... its the same thing.
[12:10] <socomm> Forget it, I don't give a crap about html or Win32 programs.
[12:11] <baluba> socomm, yep i know one, but is not sufficient for my needs
[12:11] <guptan> |trey|, i've them all, but smartlink package asks for kernel-image
[12:13] <|trey|> guptan, read section 3 under "Compiling the driver"... thanks
[12:15] <guptan> |trey|, for that I need to install smartlink package first, its stuck in dependency problem of some kernel-image
[12:15] <|trey|> guptan, no, you just need to expand the tar.gz, and change the file;.
[12:16] <goonie> can anyone tell me what the hw_random module really does? I get: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
[12:16] <guptan> |trey|, I got a .deb from here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sl-modem/
[12:16] <socomm> goonie: That's the hardware random number generator.
[12:17] <catdog> gen: afaik, there's no functional difference between primary and extended partitions, apart from the fact that you're limited only a few primary partitions per hard drive, whereas you're allowed many more extended partitions (although there is a limit).
[12:17] <|trey|> guptan, file a bug on that package about this... but in the mean time, get the tar.gz.
[12:17] <goonie> socomm: so it fails to load hw_random.ko on boot.. what can I do to fix it?
[12:17] <catdog> gen: that's how i understand it, but i may be quite wrong ;-)
[12:17] <socomm> goonie: If you have a ah ... hardware RNG, you obviously need that module.
[12:17] <|trey|> guptan, Ubuntu's kernel package is called 'linux-image', so it _shouldn't_ depend kernel-image
[12:18] <goonie> socomm: hardware RNG ?
[12:18] <guptan> |trey|, I understand.
[12:18] <socomm> goonie: You most likely don't have Hardware RNG.
[12:18] <socomm> Hardware Random Number Generator.
[12:18] <guptan> |trey|, is there anyway to get .tar.gz from .deb
[12:18] <goonie> socomm: so is it safe to blacklist the module?
[12:18] <socomm> goonie: Yes.
[12:19] <|trey|> guptan, umm, well technically... but it would be easier to just download tar.gz on its own  :/
[12:19] <goonie> socomm: thx :)
[12:19] <socomm> goonie: Don't mention it.
[12:19] <guptan> |trey|, u mean from smartlink itself?
[12:19] <|trey|> guptan, yes... that would probably be as good a place as any to get it  :/
[12:20] <guptan> |trey|, okies, let me try that way
[12:20] <cbkm> heh, I've just been setting up slmodemd in alsa mode :)
[12:20] <|trey|> guptan, _make_sure_ you file the bug though!
[12:20] <gen> how do i mount a drive
[12:21] <mjg59> goonie: Some Intel chipsets have a built-in random number generator
[12:21] <guptan> |trey|, well I need to learn first how to file a bug :)
[12:21] <mjg59> Intel removed it without changing the part number, so it's impossible to tell whether it's there or not without attempting to load the driver
[12:22] <|trey|> gen, depends if its in /etc/fstab ... if it is, 'mount /the/device'  else, 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /boot' for example
[12:22] <goonie> mjg59: I see
[12:22] <gen> what's the /boot for?
[12:22] <|trey|> guptan, bugzilla.ubuntu.com ... sign up, and click "new bug"
[12:22] <guptan> |trey|, thanks!
[12:22] <gen> |trey|, what's the /boot for
[12:23] <|trey|> gen, its an example of where in the fs you want to mount
[12:23] <gen> would i do that for a data slave drive
[12:23] <gen> just installed
[12:23] <|trey|> gen, can be /some/where/all/the/way/out/here/if/you/want... just an example  :)
[12:23] <guptan> gen, /boot typically holds ur boot files, GRUB and all
[12:24] <gen> so would i want a slava drive (that isnt running ubuntu, just holding data?)
[12:24] <gen> slave*
[12:24] <|trey|> gen, thats all its gonna hold anyways...
[12:24] <gen> so it's ok to put the /boot
[12:25] <|trey|> gen, umm, don't put anything there.
[12:25] <|trey|> gen, what do you want to mount?
[12:25] <gen> /dev/hdb
[12:25] <|trey|> gen, partition type?
[12:25] <gen> ext3
[12:26] <|trey|> gen, 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/mystuff' mystuff has to already exist though.
[12:26] <gen> i just formatted and partitioned it, but it says 18 gig is used already, any idea why (qt parted is saying this)
[12:27] <rjjrjl> VERY new here,during final install a message "as root run etc/run/locate~ can't rite fast enough can somebody give me full command?
[12:27] <|trey|> rjjrjl, 'sudo updatedb'
[12:27] <GoldeNArX> hello all
[12:28] <gen> |trey|, can i just mount it on /
[12:28] <bpd1069> how do I renable the web administration fuctions of for cups?
[12:28] <|trey|> gen, wouldn't be very smart...
[12:28] <gen> ok
[12:28] <|trey|> bpd1069, the opposite of whatever you did to turn it off?
[12:28] <bpd1069> off by default
[12:29] <|trey|> bpd1069, :/  not familier really with cups... no printer here... trying to be funny, didn't work  :(
[12:29] <bpd1069> understood... just very frustrating going from one broken device to another...
[12:30] <GoldeNArX> question: what steps do I need to to take so I can share files on this linux box so they can be read from windows?
[12:30] <|trey|> GoldeNArX, you need to configure 'samba'
[12:30] <GoldeNArX> ok. how do I go about this?
[12:30] <gen> |trey|, k that worked but im still missing 18 gig, have any expererience with qtparted?
[12:31] <rjjrjl> thanks trey
[12:31] <|trey|> rjjrjl, takes a while huh  :(    is ran daily automatically though...
[12:33] <bpd1069> anyone know which app/script builds the /etc/cups/ppd.dat file upon installation?  I could not find it listed as a file installed with cups, so I am assuming it is being constructed at installation...
[12:33] <gen> |trey|
[12:33] <gen> how do you unmount
[12:33] <catdog> gen: umount
[12:34] <gen> says device is busy
[12:34] <bpd1069> umount -l
[12:34] <bpd1069> lazy
[12:34] <gen> ?
[12:34] <wfx> everyone must start
[12:34] <catdog> gen: make sure you have no terminals within the volume you are trying to umount
[12:35] <rjjrjl> didn't know if it was special or not. Actual problem is sound config. Ubuntu sounds are working but rythembox freezes solid used synaptic to install xmms but no sound
[12:35] <goonie> does anyone know how to get the Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG netcard to work?
[12:35] <catdog> gen: (if in doubt, 'cd' to your home directory)
[12:35] <|trey|> gen, umount /where/you/mounted/it
[12:35] <joh> I've got unfixable broken packages, what do I do to remove the dpkg install queue?
[12:35] <|trey|> gen, note: no 'n'  ;)
[12:36] <wfx> rjjrjl: chekc if you use the right audio out in xmms oss,alsa,esd
[12:36] <jamaas> Help folks, I'm really stuck... we had a power failure here and when I shutdown and rebooted I've lost my gnome menu bars .... any idea how to restore them ?   Thanks
[12:36] <|QuaD-__> hey, here is a question , i tried qemu to emulate windows and it was uber slow, do you think it will be better with a linux distro?
[12:36] <gen> ok
[12:36] <gen> what file system should i use for a huge data drive?
[12:36] <gen> is ext3 fine?
[12:36] <|trey|> jamaas, *gasp* hoary at work?
[12:37] <mjg59> jamaas: If you're using Hoary, then that seems to be a known issue at the moment
[12:37] <mjg59> The same would have happened if you'd logged out and back in
[12:37] <jamaas> |trey|: I think it is warty, just the last stable release
[12:37] <bpd1069> gen: ext3 is my preferred for large partitions because of journaling....
[12:37] <catdog> gen: ah-ha: good question. Do you need windows to be able to see it natively?
[12:37] <gen> catdog, no
[12:38] <gen> is qtparted fine to do this with also?
[12:38] <catdog> gen: ext3 should be fine then, afaik
[12:38] <|trey|> bpd1069, bad reason... there are 3 such filesystems in the kernel  :/
[12:38] <joh> uhm, what do I do if I deleted /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[12:38] <gen> is qtparted to do this with, or somethign else i should use?
[12:38] <gen> something*
[12:39] <jamaas> mjg59: any ideas about how to restore menu bars?
[12:39] <|trey|> bpd1069, reiserfs = good for small files... xfs = good for large... jfs = never looked into... ext3 seems to do everything decently though  :/
[12:39] <mjg59> jamaas: Afraid not
[12:39] <magnuscanis> jamaas: do you mean the Gnome panel?
[12:39] <jamaas> mjg59: thanks, I've tried looking via google but no such luck there either
[12:40] <|trey|> bpd1069, and when I say "3", I really mean "4"
[12:40] <bpd1069> i understand the different fs..  ext3 seems to be the best for general use...
[12:40] <gen> ?
[12:40] <wfx> gen: maybe this help you to find the right one (all are good but not for all) http://fsbench.netnation.com/
[12:40] <gen> k
[12:41] <jamaas> magnuscanis: I guess so both the bars with all the icons to start programs are gone!  I did use them as hidden, i.e. out of sight until I roll the curser over them but now they are gone completely :(
[12:41] <|trey|> jamaas, rm -r ~/.gnome2/cd .gnome2/panel2.d  ... should regenerate with default settings...
[12:42] <magnuscanis> jamaas: I managed to accidentally delete the top panel the other day (2nd day with Ubuntu) but could restore it by right clicking on bottom panel and selecting New Panel.  Had to reconfigure it from scratch though.
[12:42] <|trey|> jamaas, ~/.gnome2/panel2.d  even, haha... selected too much in paste  :o
[12:42] <magnuscanis> still, gave me an opportunity to customise my top panel ;)
[12:43] <goonie> does anyone know how to get the Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG netcard to work? should I use ndiswrapper?
[12:43] <jamaas> |trey|: thanks, at this stage I can cope with that ... will give it a try and let you know how it went ... thanks
[12:44] <jamaas> |trey|: sorry, now I'm confused ... nothing unusual, just the one file to rm ?
[12:46] <|trey|> jamaas, no, its a dir... hence the '-r', means recursive... removes dir's...
[12:46] <jamaas> |trey| so then rm -r /gnome2/panel2.d   should do it ?!
[12:46] <rjjrjl> Thanks trey, back when I get a real problem!!
[12:46] <|trey|> yes, after you log out of X and back in  :)
[12:47] <jamaas> oops now you have me doing it .gnome2/panel2.d
[12:47] <bpd1069> goonie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/263627
[12:47] <|trey|> rjjrjl, ahh, didn't see Rhythmbox question... mp3 prob?
[12:47] <jazzka> hi
[12:48] <|QuaD-> is there nvidia drivers for 2.9.1
[12:48] <|QuaD-> for hoary
[12:48] <jazzka> is there any application to manage the services that are started at the ubuntu start?
[12:49] <padlefot> where is the XF86Config file for Ubuntu Hoary ?
[12:49] <jazzka> grafical or for console?
[12:49] <billytwowilly> /etc/X11
[12:49] <|trey|> jazzka, rcconf is nice... ncurses though...
[12:49] <rjjrjl> Rythmbox just locks up period. XMMS is now playing shoutcast streams just fine.
[12:49] <padlefot> billytwowilly, does it happen to be called XF86Config-4 ?
[12:50] <billytwowilly> padlefot, probably.
[12:50] <billytwowilly> maybe xconfig or something.
[12:50] <|trey|> padlefot, in hoary, its '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[12:50] <jazzka> |trey|, I cant find rcconf is that a program or what?
[12:50] <|trey|> jazzka, apt-get install rcconf
[12:51] <padlefot> |trey|: thanx there =9
[12:51] <padlefot> :)
[12:52] <spacey`ki> does someone here use the ubuntu cacti package?
[12:52] <Garathor> How can i mount a partition so that i can acess it with a regular user?
[12:53] <Quest-Master> Garathor: Is it a Windows partition?
[12:53] <catdog> Garathor, do you have it as an entry in /etc/fstab?
[12:53] <|trey|> Garathor, -o=user
[12:53] <jamaas> |trey
[12:53] <padlefot> if my screen resolutin doesnt work now, i dont know what ill do
[12:53] <|trey|> jamaa
[12:53] <jazzka> |trey|, rcconf is not in the repository ;)
[12:53] <catdog> Okay, one at a time :)
[12:53] <jamaas> |trey|: close but no cigar ... removed it and rebooted and still no console ....
[12:54] <gen> Ok, another stupid question. The drive i just mounted, well i'd to NOT have to have root privelages to write to it, how would i go about doing this?
[12:54] <gen> i'd like to*
[12:55] <Quest-Master> gen: Do this.
[12:55] <jcole> does this page look garbled to anyone else using print preview in firefox? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[12:55] <Quest-Master> gen: sudo gedit, and open up /etc/fstab.conf
[12:55] <|trey|> jamaas, huh? you wanted to fix the panel... no console?
[12:55] <Quest-Master> Then, add this entry in there
[12:55] <jamaas> |trey|: I'm not sure what I mean, the little bars at top and bottom of screen with all the goodies on them ...
[12:56] <Quest-Master> /dev/hdaX       /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/windows   vfat    user,rw,umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000
[12:56] <Garathor> Yes, it is an NTFS partition. Where do i put the -i=user?
[12:56] <|trey|> jazzka, universe... "rcconf - Debian Runlevel configuration tool"
[12:56] <Garathor> -o
[12:56] <gen> quest, it's not a windows partition btw
[12:56] <Quest-Master> Ok
[12:56] <wfx> jcole: yes looks very strange i post a screenshot
[12:56] <Quest-Master> Where it says vfat, just put in the partition type instead
[12:56] <gen> what about the /home/yourusername etc
[12:56] <gen> is there where it is going to mount?
[12:57] <Quest-Master> And replace /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/windows with whatever folder you want all of the contents mounted to.
[12:57] <Quest-Master> Yes.
[12:57] <gen> awesome, thanks
[12:57] <Vigilanty> can anybody tell me why my fat32 partition that I just mounted isn't working properly?
[12:57] <bpd1069> anyone know how to reenable the web administration functions for cups?
[12:57] <magnuscanis> jamaas: certainly sounds like the panel to me :)
[12:57] <Quest-Master> Make sure you replace the x in /dev/hdax
[12:57] <catdog> Vigilanty: symptoms?
[12:57] <Quest-Master> With whatever number the partition is one.
[12:57] <Vigilanty> uhhh
[12:57] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Just explained it to gen. :) What problems are you having?
[12:58] <Vigilanty> well, I open the mount location, and everything is displaned as files.
[12:58] <jamaas> magnuscanis: thanks, I feel so misunderstood ... and I have a lot to do tongiht and can't get to the stuff ...
[12:58] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: sudo nautilus
[12:58] <Vigilanty> i click on one, and they just vanish
[12:58] <GoldeNArX> hmm..
[12:58] <GoldeNArX> i be having problems configuring samba
[12:58] <gen> quest, will this auto mount on boot
[12:58] <Quest-Master> Tell me if it works after you do that.
[12:58] <padlefot_> |trey|?
[12:58] <Quest-Master> gen: Yes.
[12:58] <Vigilanty> i try to open in Mozilla, and it doesn't work either.
[12:58] <gen> k be right back
[12:58] <|trey|> padlefot, ?
[12:58] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Did it work?
[12:59] <Vigilanty> what?
[12:59] <padlefot_> would you moind helping me out a bit?
[12:59] <Vigilanty> how do I use sudo nautilus?
[12:59] <Quest-Master> lol
[12:59] <Quest-Master> Go to the terminal,.
[12:59] <magnuscanis> jamaas: 'fraid I can't actually help with getting the panel back if the whole thing's disappeared.  I assume you've tried restarting the X server (IIRC that doesn't work in this case)
[12:59] <Quest-Master> *.
[12:59] <Quest-Master> And type it there.
[12:59] <|trey|> padlefot, sure  :)
[12:59] <Vigilanty> oh...
[12:59] <Vigilanty> duh
[12:59] <Garathor> Could you give me an example of a commandline to mount the partition so i can access it with a regular user?
[12:59] <Quest-Master> hehe, don't worry, you'll get used to it.
[01:00] <Quest-Master> Garathor: /dev/hda2       /home/qmaster/windows   vfat    user,rw,umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000
[01:00] <jamaas> magnuscanis: is rebooted the whole machine, thats restarting x server isn't it?
[01:00] <Garathor> thankyou
[01:00] <|trey|> Garathor, 'mount -t fstype -o=user /dev/hda8 /mount
[01:00] <Quest-Master> Replace /dev/hda2 with where the partition is, and replace /home/qmaster/windows to the folder you wantit mounted it too.
[01:00] <jcole> gen: i've got a useful little mount script i wrote for myself for ubuntu, run it as root and it'll add your partitions - http://jcole.org/mount_all_drives.sh
[01:00] <Quest-Master> Also.
[01:00] <wfx> jcole: http://teg.sourceforge.net/trash/Screenshot.png
[01:00] <magnuscanis> jamaas: yes, rebooting would restart the X server (although you can also do it using ctrl-alt-backspace without a full system reboot)
[01:00] <Quest-Master> Garathor: Are you using NTFS?
[01:01] <Quest-Master> Garathor: Change the vfat to ntfs if you are
[01:01] <Vigilanty> still didn't work
[01:01] <jcole> wfx: yep, that's what i get
[01:01] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Did Nautilus come up?
[01:01] <bpd1069> jamass : does ps -A | grep panel       show you anything?  maybe its not running
[01:01] <jamaas> magnuscanis: any other thoughts?  perhaps I have to reinstall gnome or something?
[01:01] <Quest-Master> gen: Did it work?
[01:01] <Quest-Master> :)
[01:02] <gen> quest, it says wrong fs type, bad superblock, etc
[01:02] <Vigilanty> somethin did.
[01:02] <Quest-Master> gen: Weird.
[01:02] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Hold on one second, let me help gen out.
[01:02] <jcole> wfx: i wonder if that's a ubuntu/debian specific bug
[01:02] <Vigilanty> ok
[01:02] <Quest-Master> gen: are you using FAT32?
[01:02] <gen> xfs
[01:02] <magnuscanis> jamaas: I'm sure you don't need to reinstall Gnome.
[01:02] <Quest-Master> Ah.
[01:02] <Quest-Master> Change it to that then. :)
[01:02] <gen> i did
[01:03] <Garathor> It is NTFS, but do i really have to specify what type of partition it is?
[01:03] <Quest-Master> And it still didn't work?
[01:03] <gen> is the following
[01:03] <jamaas> bpd1069: will check and let you know
[01:03] <gen> /dev/hdb1       /media/big xfs user,rw,umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000
[01:03] <gen> and doesn't work
[01:03] <jcole> gen: unmount your extra drives and try that script i gave you
[01:03] <Quest-Master> Ok
[01:03] <jamaas> bpd1069: no nothing, returns to prompt
[01:03] <Quest-Master> Garathor: Yes
[01:03] <bpd1069> try: gnome-panel
[01:03] <jcole> gen: vi /etc/fstab if you want to modify any extras
[01:03] <gen> jcole, which script?
[01:03] <bpd1069> hehe
[01:03] <gen> im in fstab jcole
[01:03] <bpd1069> It's not running therefor no panels..
[01:03] <Quest-Master> Garathor: Change that line to how it should be otherwise it won't work
[01:04] <jcole> gen: http://jcole.org/mount_all_drives.sh
[01:04] <|QuaD-> how do i make a folder into a tar.gz file?
[01:04] <socomm> s/pseudoname/pseudonym
[01:04] <jamaas> bpd1069: will do, stand by!
[01:04] <wfx> jcole: no i think a wrong css for media print
[01:04] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Once you sudo nautilus, go the folder where your stuff was mounted
[01:04] <Garathor> I have mounted a NTFS partition right now, and i didn't specify anything. Just mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive
[01:04] <Vigilanty> i already had it mounted.
[01:04] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Yeah. Go to the folder where it was mounted.
[01:04] <jcole> gen: umount all youe extra drives 1st
[01:04] <jamaas> bpd1069: still nothing
[01:05] <gen> jcole, how/why
[01:05] <Quest-Master> Garathor: I know, you need to make it automatic though, right?
[01:05] <Vigilanty> still the same dude.
[01:05] <Quest-Master> Man this channel is busy.
[01:05] <jcole> gen: if the drive is already mounted, that script won't mount it again
[01:05] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: What command did you type in to mount the drive?
[01:05] <gen> the drive isn't mounted
[01:05] <miffe> is it a good idea to install debian unstable debs onto ubuntu hoary?
[01:05] <ACID|net> how do u all pick your internet handle??
[01:05] <bpd1069> jamass: not sure why gnome-panel is not running...  but atleast I think the problem is a bit more upstream
[01:05] <Vigilanty> mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /home/yadayadayada...
[01:05] <gen> i was asking how to get it to mount from boot, im in the fstab file
[01:06] <gen> and to be able to write with non root priv
[01:06] <jcole> gen: run that script dude
[01:06] <jamaas> bpd1069: I would agree, without a padel or a canoe .... if you get my drift
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Is the filesystem for your partition FAT32?
[01:06] <Vigilanty> yes
[01:06] <gen> what does the script do
[01:06] <Vigilanty> i converted it from NTFS
[01:06] <bpd1069> jamass: yes I do...
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Go to the terminal and type in sudo gedit
[01:06] <jcole> gen: any user will be able to mount and partition, and you can have it mount at boot if you want
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Tell me once you're there.
[01:06] <Vigilanty> should I unmount first?
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Nope.
[01:06] <Quest-Master> Doesn't matter.
[01:06] <Vigilanty> k
[01:07] <wfx> jcole: and a wrong xhtml -> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntulinux.org%2Fwiki%2FKernelHowto
[01:07] <Quest-Master> There?
[01:07] <jcole> oops s/and partition/that partition
[01:07] <Vigilanty> there
[01:07] <magnuscanis> jamaas: I hope you manage to get your Gnome panel problem sorted.  I'm off to bed now...
[01:07] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Open up this file /etc/fstab.conf
[01:08] <jcole> wfx: heh, nice detective work
[01:08] <jamaas> magnuscanis: thanks for your help and suggestions, have some sleep for me too, I may not be getting much tonight ... !  ;)
[01:08] <goonie> does anyone know how to get the Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG netcard to work? should I use ndiswrapper?
[01:08] <bpd1069> jamass":  if you do choose to attempt a reinstall it is a seperate package...  apt-get install gnome-panel     should suffice
[01:08] <wfx> jcole: css looks ok maybe a designe bug
[01:08] <Vigilanty> i can't
[01:08] <bpd1069> goonie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/263627
[01:08] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Why?
[01:08] <Vigilanty> Could not find the file "/etc/fstab.conf".
[01:08] <Vigilanty> Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[01:08] <gen> jcole, doesn't show up on desktop, but the folder did pop up
[01:08] <gen> why would that be
[01:09] <Quest-Master> Ack
[01:09] <Quest-Master> Take off the .conf
[01:09] <Vigilanty> o
[01:09] <Quest-Master> /etc/fstab, my bad, sorry.
[01:09] <Quest-Master> :P
[01:09] <goonie> bpd1069:thx
[01:09] <bpd1069> np
[01:09] <jcole> any ubuntulinux.org site admins around?
[01:09] <socomm> Vigilanty: Try using bash's TAB completion.
[01:09] <gen> jcole, ..
[01:09] <Vigilanty> bash's TAB completion?
[01:09] <ACID|net> how do u all pick your internet handle??
[01:09] <Quest-Master> No idea what that is.
[01:09] <Quest-Master> Anyhow.
[01:10] <socomm> Vigilanty: Forget it.
[01:10] <Quest-Master> Did you get in Vigilanty?
[01:10] <ACID|net> I want a new nick and domain name - name for my network
[01:10] <Vigilanty> I've opened /etc/fstab
[01:10] <jcole> gen: sort our icons, it might be under another icon... also, go to Computer->Disks
[01:10] <Vigilanty> now what?
[01:10] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Add this entry towards the top of your fstab, after proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <gen> yeah ok it mounts and all, but i still cant write to it without being root
[01:11] <miffe> gen, -o fmask=111,dmask=000
[01:11] <Vigilanty> that line's already there.
[01:11] <notsure> ok... i guess no one here has any experience with cups...   very frustrating not being able to USE my computer for work...  will downgrade to a non-ubuntu package...
[01:11] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: /dev/hda2       /home/qmaster/windows   vfat    user,rw,umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000        0        0
[01:11] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: lol
[01:11] <Quest-Master> I know, add that after that line
[01:12] <Vigilanty> o
[01:12] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Then, edit /dev/hda2 to /dev/hda5
[01:12] <gen> miffe, need a tad more info
[01:12] <jamaas> bpd1069: good idea batman, done, now how do I restart this beast without shutting down ?
[01:12] <wfx> time to sleep have all a nice day
[01:12] <Vigilanty> so, add /proc           proc    defaults        0       0 again?
[01:12] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Go in to your directory (/home/yourusername) and make a folder called windows there.
[01:12] <Quest-Master> No
[01:12] <Quest-Master> Don't
[01:12] <Quest-Master> Just add that /dev/hda5 entry I showed you after that
[01:12] <bpd1069> jamass: logout--login
[01:13] <jamaas> I hear ya, back in a moment ... one hopes!
[01:13] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Then, change the /home/qmaster/windows to /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/windows
[01:13] <Quest-Master> So, it should end up looking like:
[01:13] <Quest-Master> /dev/hda5       /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/windows   vfat    user,rw,umask=000,dmask=000,fmask=000        0        0
[01:13] <Vigilanty> k
[01:13] <Vigilanty> done
[01:13] <Quest-Master> Of course, change the YOURUSERNAMEHERE to your username.
[01:14] <Vigilanty> yeah
[01:14] <Vigilanty> now save?
[01:14] <leonel> any Idea  about  how many  ubuntu cds  have been  given ?
[01:14] <jcole> miffe: gen is trying to write to an xfs partition (not vfat) .. he needs to create a directory that 'gen' owns so he can r/w to it...
[01:14] <Quest-Master> Make sure /home/YOURUSERNAMEHERE/windows exists.
[01:14] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Got it all done? Save it and reboot.
[01:14] <jcole> gen: am i correct? is it xfs?
[01:14] <Quest-Master> gen: Are you still having problems?
[01:15] <Vigilanty> save and rebooting...
[01:16] <Vigilanty> brb
[01:16] <GoldeNArX> ok.. i got samba working. but i'm having problems with a share.  I want to share /mnt/ext3
[01:16] <ACID|net> :( noone is listening to me
[01:16] <socomm> I detest neophytes. X^(
[01:17] <catdog> ACID|net: everyone is listening, just don't know what to say.
[01:17] <socomm> ACID|net: Repeat your question.
[01:18] <ACID|net> how do u all pick your internet handle??  I want a new nick (not ACID|net) and domain name/name for my internal network.........needs a domain name so i can VPN into it from uni and elsewhere etc
[01:19] <socomm> ACID|net: Usually people pick their pseudonyms to reflect their interests, or hobbies.
[01:20] <jamaas> bpd1069: Hey mate, I'm back with both panels   and in the same place as they were originally, what a magician!  Thanks a bunch
[01:20] <socomm> Sort of like MonkeyKing, or 1337_h4x0r. Something like that.
[01:21] <ACID|net> socomm: I dont have any hobbies or interests but computers
[01:21] <socomm> ACID|net: I like your nick, it's not too bad.
[01:21] <GoldeNArX> anyone here good with samba?
[01:21] <Vigilanty> f***in sweet dude...
[01:21] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: don't ask to ask...just ask
[01:21] <Vigilanty> it worked.
[01:21] <Vigilanty> now.
[01:22] <Vigilanty> Thanks a million dude.
[01:22] <GoldeNArX> ok.. i got samba working. but i'm having problems with a share.  I want to share /mnt/ext3
[01:22] <miffe> GoldeNArX, install swat
[01:22] <ACID|net> socomm: Thanks :)
[01:22] <GoldeNArX> miffe: swat?
[01:22] <miffe> swat - Samba Web Administration Tool
[01:22] <Vigilanty> now, I need help with a few applications...
[01:22] <ACID|net> hmmmm, need to think of a nick for my network,  unless i just use a subdomain of my main domain
[01:23] <socomm> ACID|net: Anyhow to set your domain name you can set it under /etc/hosts
[01:23] <Vigilanty> anybody know of any good debian ftp sites?
[01:23] <james> GNOME 2.8.2 has been released: would this get into Warty as updates, or is Warty frozen?
[01:24] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Did it work?
[01:24] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: Oh, never mind
[01:24] <Quest-Master> :)
[01:24] <arthur> hey, any1 here knows how I remove the "arrow emblem" from an symlink folder ( in gnome, of course) ?
[01:24] <Vigilanty> yeah
[01:24] <catdog> james: warty id frozen
[01:24] <Quest-Master> Glad it worked.. took me a while to get it working myself when I started
[01:24] <socomm> james: How? Pray. Or compile it yourself.
[01:24] <Vigilanty> i've been messin with it for a while now.
[01:25] <Vigilanty> now, i need to be able to use the stuff...  lol
[01:25] <Vigilanty> I need apps...
[01:25] <Quest-Master> What do you need?
[01:25] <Quest-Master> Ubuntu has everything. :)
[01:25] <Vigilanty> mp3 player
[01:25] <Vigilanty> wma player
[01:25] <Quest-Master> Ok.
[01:25] <Vigilanty> mpeg2 decoder
[01:25] <Vigilanty> divx decoder
[01:25] <Quest-Master> Go to the terminal.
[01:25] <socomm> Someone fscked with the topic, eh?
[01:25] <scizzo> Vigilanty: look in the wiki for RestrictedFormats
[01:25] <Quest-Master> Yes, I can cover all of these for you. :)
[01:25] <scizzo> or codecs
[01:25] <Quest-Master> Do what scizzo said first.
[01:26] <Vigilanty> I've already seen restricted formats...
[01:26] <Vigilanty> I know that there
[01:26] <Quest-Master> Vigilanty: PM me and I'll name you the apps. I use.
[01:26] <Vigilanty> I know that there's a way to make em work though.
[01:26] <Vigilanty> ok
[01:26] <catdog> Vigilanty: Sounds like a job for... mplayer :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94
[01:26] <arthur> any1?
[01:26] <Quest-Master> I wouldn't advise mplayer
[01:27] <Quest-Master> It broke my apt-get.. but it seems to work for everyone else
[01:27] <ACID|net> anyone here know much about ZoneEdit??
[01:27] <scizzo> everything depends on what it should be used for
[01:27] <ACID|net> or DynDNS - how do they compare?
[01:27] <socomm> Quest-Master: You ever consider compiling mplayer manually?
[01:27] <scizzo> video or just listen to
[01:28] <billytwowilly> I have a GPL question.
[01:28] <scizzo> ACID|net: I use DynDNS
[01:28] <billytwowilly> anyone up on the GPL?
[01:28] <Quest-Master> socomm: Totem-Xine works fine for me
[01:28] <mjr> billytwowilly, just ask
[01:28] <socomm> billytwowilly: I've read it a couple of times.
[01:29] <ACID|net> scizzo: they any good??
[01:29] <scizzo> ACID|net: it works
[01:29] <miffe> ACID|net, i use no-ip.org it works good
[01:29] <billytwowilly> is sveasoft's business model legal under the GPL? You pay 20 dollars for a year's worth of downloading firmware and support, but if you take advantage of your rights under the GPL and redistribute the source or the binaries you get cut off.
[01:30] <mjr> interesting question
[01:30] <Garoboldy> greetings everyone
[01:30] <billytwowilly> so essentially the GPL is being limited by this other licence deal.
[01:30] <Garoboldy> over from Beatrix. hoping someone has used terminal here
[01:30] <socomm> billytwowilly: Depends on the contract you sign with them. There's nothing in GPL about that.
[01:30] <Garoboldy> or at least knows some commands
[01:30] <|trey|> billytwowilly, that stimulation isn't technically, no...
[01:30] <Garoboldy> need to setup dhcp from terminal and not the gui
[01:30] <mjr> technically, they'd not be restricting your rights under the gpl, "merely" deciding on what they want to do with you depending on what you do...
[01:31] <GoldeNArX> ok.. you cant just download swat seperately. its built into samba
[01:31] <scizzo> Garoboldy: /etc/network/
[01:31] <scizzo> Garoboldy: there is a bunch of files there
[01:31] <GoldeNArX> how do I know if the samba I have installed has swat built in?
[01:31] <Garoboldy> ok
[01:31] <billytwowilly> I'd argue it limits your rights under the GPL. If you practice your rights you lose the remainder of your 20 dollars worth of support and downloads.
[01:31] <Garoboldy> I see the files
[01:32] <scizzo> Garoboldy: /etc/network/interfaces is the place you should look at first
[01:32] <scizzo> Garoboldy: tell the interface to use the dhcp
[01:32] <nomasteryoda> GoldeNArX, type http://localhost:901 in konqueror
[01:32] <Garoboldy> it wont let me into interfaces
[01:32] <|trey|> nomasteryoda, in konq? haha.
[01:32] <GoldeNArX> konqueror?
[01:33] <scizzo> Garoboldy: use sudo
[01:33] <scizzo> Garoboldy: hold on a sec.....are we talking about ubuntu now?
[01:33] <|trey|> nomasteryoda, should state supported software for others...
[01:33] <scizzo> Garoboldy: in that case sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces
[01:33] <Garoboldy> no I am booted in beatrix gui, see I need to boot into text mode but cant figure out how..so I am trying to setup the network within terminal
[01:33] <nomasteryoda> oh yea, i set it up when i installed kde on hoary
[01:33] <nomasteryoda> lol
[01:33] <socomm> billytwowilly: What's to stop you from redistributing binaries and source after your contract is up?
[01:34] <billytwowilly> socomm, The fact that you won't ever be able to subscribe to sveasoft again.
[01:34] <GoldeNArX> nomasteryoda, konqueror?>
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[01:34] <miffe> GoldeNArX, apt-get install swat, then uncomment it from /etc/inetd.conf and restart inetd
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> GoldeNArX, try
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> which swat
[01:34] <miffe> GoldeNArX, konqueror is the KDE webbrowser, firefox works just as good
[01:34] <Garoboldy> see its saying sudo vim command not found
[01:34] <nomasteryoda> yea
[01:34] <billytwowilly> I wish I had money. I'm pretty sure sveasoft is breaking the law.
[01:35] <billytwowilly> anyhoo, gotta go study.
[01:35] <nomasteryoda> billytwowilly, yea they are
[01:35] <scizzo> Garoboldy: well there is a big difference
[01:35] <nomasteryoda> but i found their firmware on net anyway
[01:35] <nomasteryoda> ;)
[01:35] <scizzo> Garoboldy: you are asking questions about beatrix in a ubuntu channel
[01:35] <GoldeNArX> miffe: couldnt find package swat
[01:35] <scizzo> Garoboldy: which means it is hard to know...
[01:35] <scizzo> Garoboldy: you need to be root to configure the network
[01:36] <Garoboldy> yeah I am in beatrix and have been for awhile..but the people there have no idea.
[01:36] <miffe> it's in universe
[01:36] <Garoboldy> I guess I just need to itsall ubuntu
[01:36] <nomasteryoda> GoldeNArX, try sudo which swat
[01:36] <socomm> What is beatrix?
[01:36] <scizzo> Garoboldy: could you try to use root and configure the network with that user?
[01:36] <GoldeNArX> nomasteryoda, I did use sudo
[01:36] <nomasteryoda> ok
[01:36] <miffe> GoldeNArX, im running hoary, maybe it's not in warty
[01:36] <Garoboldy> livecd distro that can install to HD
[01:36] <Garoboldy> ok let me try
[01:37] <GoldeNArX> should I just go download the latest version of samba? and for what distro should I download it for as ubuntu isnt in there
[01:37] <socomm> GoldeNArX: Debian.
[01:37] <socomm> GoldeNArX: Ubuntu ~= Debian Unstable.
[01:37] <Garoboldy> no its not letting in as root
[01:37] <Garoboldy> great
[01:38] <Garoboldy> this is getting to be a crappy night
[01:38] <scizzo> Garoboldy: well I don't know anything about beatrix...
[01:38] <mjr> isn't it more like testing though?
[01:38] <Garoboldy> alright. I appreciate the information though
[01:38] <Garoboldy> i will come back if I install Ubuntu and need help lol
[01:38] <GoldeNArX> socomm, 2 options dists / samba3
[01:38] <scizzo> Garoboldy: is it a live cd?
[01:39] <scizzo> Garoboldy: if that is the case I guess there is something else to look for
[01:39] <Garoboldy> it was, but I istalled to HD.
[01:39] <scizzo> ok
[01:39] <socomm> GoldeNArX: Dunno, I have no use for samba ... sorry.
[01:39] <scizzo> Garoboldy: well have you tried some other editor?
[01:39] <Garoboldy> what are the sys requirements for ubuntu. running an old 233mmx with 64mbRAM.
[01:39] <scizzo> Garoboldy: like vi, nano, joe?
[01:40] <GoldeNArX> i'm so lost
[01:41] <miffe> GoldeNArX, why?
[01:41] <GoldeNArX> well. not sure what to do from here
[01:42] <miffe> can't you just apt-get install samba?
[01:42] <GoldeNArX> samba is already installed
[01:42] <Quest-Master> I have managed to convert so many people into Ubuntu already.. :D
[01:42] <natty> hi everyone!I've got 1 pc with a wireless network card, and I'm getting another PC tomorrow,also with wireless.i've installed ndiswrapper and got the wlan0 device,but how can i setup an ad-hoc network?
[01:42] <miffe> and swat?
[01:42] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: could you just add the directory? I mean as normal?
[01:43] <scizzo> [sharing]
[01:43] <scizzo> comment=Sharing Directory
[01:43] <scizzo> path=/root/sharing/
[01:43] <scizzo> public=yes
[01:43] <scizzo> only guest=yes
[01:43] <scizzo> writable=yes
[01:43] <scizzo> read only=no
[01:43] <scizzo> something like that?
[01:43] <scizzo> well don't use gues instead use the users you can add to samba
[01:44] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: ?
[01:44] <GoldeNArX> ######## File sharing ########
[01:44] <GoldeNArX> # Name mangling options
[01:44] <GoldeNArX>     preserve case = yes
[01:44] <GoldeNArX>     short preserve case = yes
[01:44] <GoldeNArX> is that were that would go?
[01:44] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: ????
[01:44] <miffe> put it at the end of the file
[01:45] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: have you..._ever_ configured samba?
[01:45] <GoldeNArX> never
[01:45] <GoldeNArX> infact this is my second day with linux :)
[01:45] <nomasteryoda> super
[01:45] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: aaa....that explains a lot
[01:45] <nomasteryoda> so you survived day one
[01:45] <GoldeNArX> hehe.. sorry I should have stated that
[01:45] <natty> anyone, any ideas?
[01:46] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: you should really look at the configuration provided by samba and then look at www.samba.org to find out some more information
[01:46] <GoldeNArX> hell ya. tonights task was configuring samba and configuring an ftp server
[01:46] <siimo> i read on the forum that xchat-gnome will replace xchat is this true? will plain xchat still be available ?
[01:46] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: samba is a big thing and is hard to explain in many cases
[01:46] <GoldeNArX> miffe: put what at the end of the file?
[01:47] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: ooo...trust me...you won't learn samba in a day
[01:47] <catdog> Samba's a bitch :)
[01:47] <GoldeNArX> well.  I only need it for the 1 tast which is to share this drive so my main machine can read/write to the drive
[01:48] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: ummm...one disk or 200 disks...
[01:48] <miffe> Garoboldy, that scizzo wrote
[01:48] <siimo> can someone please comment about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6078 ??
[01:48] <GoldeNArX> sizzo: I just want to share 1 hard drive. (mnt/ext3)
[01:48] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: look at the example I gave you before then
[01:48] <rick_> Does synaptic mplayer play wma out of the box??
[01:49] <scizzo> or look at the configuration and you should see some examples
[01:49] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: when it comes to linux...you need to read a lot in the beginning...
[01:49] <GoldeNArX> yeah. i've been doing that
[01:49] <scizzo> ok....hold on then
[01:49] <GoldeNArX> the example you gave me. does it matter were I put that in the file?
[01:50] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: look at the end of the samba configuration
[01:50] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: is there examples there with shares and so on?
[01:50] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: home directories and so on
[01:51] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: there should be examples there anyway
[01:51] <GoldeNArX> no. tho samba is working because I can browse something on this machine from windws. just not what I want
[01:51] <adoy|ubuntu> ok, so now i'm on the ubuntu laptop too
[01:51] <adoy|ubuntu> instead of suse
[01:52] <adoy|ubuntu> let me find my samba
[01:52] <catdog> GoldeNarX: have a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf There should be a few examples of typical configurations which you can use as a base for what you want.
[01:52] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: thats really weird
[01:52] <GoldeNArX> #[01:52] <GoldeNArX> wins support = no
[01:52] <GoldeNArX> [homes]
[01:52] <GoldeNArX>    comment = Home Directories
[01:52] <GoldeNArX>    browseable = yes
[01:52] <GoldeNArX> is that what i'm looking for?
[01:53] <scizzo> yes
[01:53] <adoy|ubuntu> GoldeNArX, did you try installing it using synaptic
[01:53] <GoldeNArX> no. i used apt
[01:53] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: try this once and then restart samba ok?
[01:53] <scizzo> [ext3]
[01:53] <scizzo> comment= My disk share
[01:54] <scizzo> browseable = ye
[01:54] <scizzo> sorry
[01:54] <scizzo> browseable = yes
[01:54] <scizzo> or something like that
[01:54] <GoldeNArX> ok
[01:54] <scizzo> then run: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[01:54] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: then try to reconnect to the machine again
[01:56] <siimo> i read on the forum that xchat-gnome will replace xchat is this true? will plain xchat still be available ?
[01:56] <scizzo> siimo: what forum?
[01:57] <siimo> scizzo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6078 ??
[01:57] <siimo> thought theres only 1 forum
[01:57] <GoldeNArX> scizzo: that reset command no works
[01:57] <scizzo> siimo: there is more then one forum on the web.. :)
[01:58] <siimo> well ubuntu decisions will be on ubuntuforums
[01:58] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: well look for the correct init name
[02:00] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: I am not using samba at the moment so can't say what the correct init name is
[02:00] <scizzo> but the service should be listed there
[02:00] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: samba restart maybe?
[02:00] <GoldeNArX> etc/init.d $ sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:00] <GoldeNArX> that worked
[02:00] <GoldeNArX> brb
[02:00] <scizzo> ok
[02:00] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: try to access it with the machine you want
[02:01] <scizzo> siimo: well....xchat does not seem to be the same project as xchat-gnome...
[02:02] <siimo> scizzo, xchat-gnome simply adds its own patches to xchat code so its based on xchat anyway
[02:03] <scizzo> siimo: well I am not sure but it seems to have to go Debian -> Ubuntu
[02:03] <scizzo> or something
[02:03] <scizzo> not sure
[02:03] <scizzo> siimo: tried to add a thread and ask? :)
[02:03] <siimo> scizzo, i dont think xchat will be replaced in debian
[02:04] <scizzo> siimo: anything is possible.. :)
[02:04] <siimo> well it will take a few years in debian
[02:05] <scizzo> hehe
[02:07] <GoldeNArX> scizzo
[02:07] <GoldeNArX> yes
[02:07] <sayao> hi
[02:07] <GoldeNArX> lemme show
[02:07] <sayao> does ubuntu works fine with those transmeta crusoe processors?
[02:08] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: yes?
[02:08] <mjr> one would think so, don't they look like usual x86s to the OS?
[02:08] <GoldeNArX> wins support = no
[02:08] <GoldeNArX> [homes]
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    comment = Home Directories
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    browseable = yes
[02:08] <GoldeNArX> [ext3]
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    comment = Archive Drive
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    path = /mnt/ext3
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    browseable = yes
[02:08] <GoldeNArX>    writable = yes
[02:08] <sayao> mjr, i think they do, but not sure :)
[02:09] <GoldeNArX> thanx for yoru help scizzo :)
[02:09] <GotD0t> sayao: if windows can run on them then im fairly certain that ubuntu will ;-)
[02:09] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: it works?
[02:09] <mjr> mmh, yes, what GotD0t said :)
[02:09] <GoldeNArX> scizzo: yep. very well
[02:09] <bpd1069> sayao: they follow the x86 arch, so it should work fine... not possible to run on the internal cpu in native mode as far as I know
[02:09] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: next start to read the www.samba.org information they have on the site...
[02:10] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: :)
[02:10] <GoldeNArX> now b4 you go. recommend the best FTP server proggy for linux
[02:10] <sayao> well, the linux kernel has some specific code for crusoe, thats why i asked :)
[02:10] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: that depends
[02:10] <GoldeNArX> on?
[02:10] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: if you want the normal users on the system to have ftp access or if you want to add them to some sort of database?
[02:11] <sayao> must be some optimizations or something, because it has specific code for all other processors hehe
[02:11] <bpd1069> well since Linux worked for Transmeta, I am sure the kernel is fine   : )
[02:11] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: everything depends on how you want the users to be handled
[02:11] <bpd1069> err Linus
[02:11] <GoldeNArX> I can add them
[02:11] <GoldeNArX> I want it to do basically everything g6 did :)
[02:11] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: you need to look at what fits you the best
[02:12] <GoldeNArX> ya.
[02:12] <GoldeNArX> i'll hafta investigate
[02:12] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: proftpd, vsftpd etc
[02:12] <GoldeNArX> hope they have gui
[02:12] <GoldeNArX> :P
[02:12] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: no
[02:13] <GoldeNArX> haha
[02:13] <GoldeNArX> yikes
[02:13] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: why do you need gui if the configuration files are easy?
[02:13] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: or if you can operate them using a normal terminal
[02:13] <scizzo> log in to them and administrating them
[02:13] <GoldeNArX> yea..
[02:13] <scizzo> you don't need a gui for a ftp server...its horrible
[02:14] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: glftpd is also a known ftp server thingy....but I would never use it... :P
[02:14] <GoldeNArX> ok
[02:15] <GoldeNArX> what command will start samba for me? and what do I do if I want samba to start on starup
[02:15] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: it will start at startup...
[02:15] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: it should anyway
[02:15] <GoldeNArX> ok
[02:16] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: if you want to start, stop or restart it...use sudo /etc/init.d/samba <option>
[02:16] <GoldeNArX> i feel foolish. I dont even know how to install a program in linux
[02:16] <GoldeNArX> like if I download vsftpd
[02:16] <GoldeNArX> wouldnt know how to install it
[02:16] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: unpack and read the INSTALL and README
[02:16] <GotD0t> GoldeNArX: you can't expect to jump into an OS and automatically know how to everything
[02:17] <dataw0lf> eh, take it outside the channel
[02:17] <scizzo> sayao: information over flooded
[02:17] <scizzo> sayao: :P
[02:17] <sayao> :)
[02:17] <GoldeNArX> ya. it takes 20 days to form a habit :)
[02:17] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: I think you should start to look at securing the samba stuff up a little
[02:17] <GotD0t> err... how to do everything*
[02:18] <GoldeNArX> yeah. thats what i'm gonna do now
[02:18] <scizzo> GoldeNArX: try to read what the different ftp server does..then from that information determine which one fits you the best
[02:18] <scizzo> time for some sleep
[02:18] <scizzo> night...
[02:19] <GoldeNArX> thxz
[02:19] <scizzo> np
[02:19] <bpd1069> GoldeNArX: I suggest looking through the APT-howto...  very useful information and can save you alot of grief and keep your systems installation clean and working
[02:20] <mojo> I need some help here
[02:21] <dataw0lf> most people do.
[02:21] <dataw0lf> take some valiums, you'll be fine.
[02:21] <sayao> yeah, life is good
[02:21] <mojo> how to remove the Open With.. entries? I have 2 Helix Player entries, but I can't remove them, the Remove button is disabled
[02:21] <GotD0t> mojo: whats your major malfunction?
[02:21] <GotD0t> hmn
[02:21] <GotD0t> hmm*
[02:21] <dataw0lf> do you have two versions installed?
[02:21] <mojo> do u know what cfg file to change mimetype open program?
[02:22] <mojo> yes, one is bin type and other is debian
[02:22] <mojo> now I just removed bin version
[02:22] <mojo> but the Helix Player entry is still there, not deleted yet
[02:23] <mojo> ....tough question heh?
[02:23] <GotD0t> mojo: you could always search your computer for any file that contains the word Helix ;-)
[02:24] <GotD0t> mojo: that was sorta a joke, but it prob will work
[02:24] <mojo> please show me the command
[02:24] <crevette> mojo: you have the search tool
[02:24] <mojo> I don't know how to use 'grep' and ls
[02:24] <GotD0t> mojo: you can do it through the gnome search tool
[02:24] <mojo> oh
[02:24] <sayao> he probably doesnt want to edit a big xml file
[02:24] <mojo> let me try
[02:25] <mojo> excuse me
[02:25] <mojo> in search tool
[02:25] <GotD0t> mojo: note, if you have any windows parititions i highly recommend that you unmount them before searching
[02:25] <mojo> what do I type for the file name
[02:25] <sayao> mojo: right click the file, and then choose properties
[02:25] <crevette> mojo: nothing
[02:25] <sayao> mojo, then go to the "Open with" tab
[02:25] <mojo> do I use '*.*'?
[02:25] <mojo> oh
[02:26] <sayao> mojo, select helix player and click remove
[02:26] <mojo> sayao: I know what u mean, but my eintries can't be deleted, the Remove button is disabled
[02:26] <GotD0t> sayao: he said he cant click remove, which is understandable because i believe by default remove is disabled for entrys not manually added
[02:26] <crevette> sayao: He can't
[02:26] <sayao> humm
[02:26] <mojo> I think
[02:26] <mojo> in the next version
[02:27] <mojo> GNOME should resolve this issue
[02:27] <GotD0t> sayao: like i have two xmms entries for opening mp3 files, one i can remove (which i added to use a specific command) and the other i cant
[02:27] <sayao> maybe its a permission problem
[02:27] <sayao> try it with sudo nautilus
[02:27] <mojo> I'm still searching for files contains Helix word
[02:27] <mojo> sayao: I did, it won't butch
[02:30] <rushibhai> hoary problem guys. firefox fonts 'leak color' on LCD panel.
[02:34] <BlacKnight|> hallo
[02:34] <zenpod> fnord.
[02:39] <BlacKnight|> hrmmm
[02:39] <zenpod> mmmmmmmmh.
[02:39] <BlacKnight|> for some reason kde apps don't dock in gnome
[02:39] <zenpod> probably because they're KDE apps?
[02:39] <BlacKnight|> what gnome apps are there that place an icon in the dock?
[02:39] <BlacKnight|> yeah, but aren't the two intercompatible
[02:39] <zenpod> BlacKnight|, GAIM
[02:39] <zenpod> BlacKnight|, only if the programmer is nice.
[02:41] <dirtydawg> if I want to create a root access account
[02:41] <baluba> night
[02:41] <BlacKnight|> for some reason gnome isn't docking either
[02:41] <GoldeNArX> I dont want to have to use sudo all the time
[02:41] <abah> how to mount a usb mass storage in ubuntu... its seem no /dev/sda1 in the system..
[02:41] <zenpod> BlacKnight|, gaim isn't docking in gnome either?
[02:41] <zenpod> abah, what's the filesystem?
[02:41] <abah> ext3
[02:42] <sayao> BlacKnight|, do you have the dock applet on the panel?
[02:42] <BlacKnight|> how do i add it?
[02:42] <BlacKnight|> i must have removed it somehow :P
[02:42] <abah> i tried mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[02:42] <zenpod> abah, erm.  Heh, no idea about that.. I know FAT32 automounts nicely
[02:42] <sayao> BlacKnight|, right click the panel and choose Add..
[02:42] <BlacKnight|> yep
[02:42] <sayao> Add to panel
[02:42] <abah>  /dev/sda1 does not exist..
[02:43] <BlacKnight|> and then?
[02:43] <sayao> then choose notification area
[02:43] <GoldeNArX> how do I create a root account?
[02:43] <sayao> and click add
[02:43] <BlacKnight|> ok it's there
[02:43] <zenpod> GoldeNArX, goto terminal, sudo passwd root, I think
[02:43] <abah> root acct created by default...
[02:43] <sayao> BlacKnight|, restart the application that is supposed to go in the notification area
[02:44] <BlacKnight|> gaim.. just did.. still isnt' happening
[02:44] <GoldeNArX> oki
[02:44] <sayao> you have to change the gaim preferences
[02:44] <GoldeNArX> brb
[02:44] <BlacKnight|> sayao: they're setup right
[02:44] <BlacKnight|> it worked yesterday...
[02:44] <BlacKnight|> maybe i should restart gnome
[02:44] <sayao> yeah, try it :)
[02:46] <Verus> Hi. Anyone able to give me a hand?
[02:47] <sayao> Verus, i will not masturbate you
[02:47] <Verus> <whipes the sweat from his forhead> I'm relieved.
[02:48] <BlacKnight|> oh ok i need to lock the notification area
[02:48] <BlacKnight|> but kde apps still won't dock in it!
[02:48] <Verus> I downloaded the  warty-release-install-i386.iso and cant make it bootable.  I have problems in the 2.6.8 and the 2.6.9 kernel... basically the computer locks up every few seconds and I get write errors.
[02:58] <[BTM] gee> to what folder in my quake3 directory shall i link my opengl libraries?
[02:58] <sayao> Zotnix, i burned a few cds and all failed so i guess i have the same problem
[02:58] <sayao> i hate to say, but cd burning on linux sux
[02:59] <Zotnix> I never had a problem before.
[02:59] <Zotnix> I think the new kernel messes it up.
[02:59] <[BTM] gee> anyone play quake3 ?
[02:59] <Verus> Well, I have no option on rightclicking for burning it...i am burning again yet another disk however...I accidentally proceeded. 8)
[02:59] <sayao> [BTM] gee, i think you dont have to link anything
[03:00] <[BTM] gee> sayao, someone told me i did earlier, but then i accidentely shut down X, and i have to start over again
[03:01] <sayao> [BTM] gee, i guess you quake3 isnt starting.. does it show any message?
[03:01] <[BTM] gee> sayao, yeah....when i try fullscreen it gives me this...
[03:01] <[BTM] gee> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[03:02] <adoy|ubuntu> BTM, are you using xchat?
[03:02] <[BTM] gee> adoy|ubuntu, yes
[03:02] <adoy|ubuntu> turn on logging so you can hang on to these sessions
[03:02] <adoy|ubuntu> i learned the hard way to do that
[03:02] <[BTM] gee> adoy|ubuntu, good idea, thanks
[03:03] <sayao> [BTM] gee, type glxinfo on your console, it will give you some ingo
[03:03] <sayao> *info
[03:03] <[BTM] gee> it's using nvidia
[03:03] <sayao> do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[03:04] <[BTM] gee> yes, ofcourse
[03:04] <Verus> ok gonna reboot and see how she goes....one last question...its basically debian eh?
[03:04] <Verus> installationwise i mean...
[03:04] <sayao> [BTM] gee, what does it says on direct rendering? yes or no
[03:05] <[BTM] gee> Verus, yes
[03:05] <sayao> Verus, the installation is different
[03:05] <[BTM] gee> sayao, yes
[03:05] <Verus> kk thanks again.
[03:05] <sayao> [BTM] gee, try this: ldd quake3.x86
[03:05] <sayao> i will output the linked libraries
[03:06] <[BTM] gee> not found
[03:06] <[BTM] gee> quake3.x86 that is
[03:06] <sayao> i think its quake.x86 then
[03:07] <[BTM] gee> not a dynamic executeable
[03:07] <adoy|ubuntu> apropos quake
[03:07] <lek> how do you release/renew an ip (from terminal)
[03:08] <[BTM] gee> lek, ifconfig ethX down ; ifconfig ethX new.ip.number.here up
[03:08] <adoy|ubuntu> lek, ifdown eth0 then hdcpcd eth0
[03:08] <adoy|ubuntu> hdcpcd eth0
[03:08] <adoy|ubuntu> sorrry
[03:08] <lek> thanks
[03:09] <sayao> [BTM] gee, to link it type: ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so .
[03:09] <sayao> [BTM] gee, on the quake3 dir
[03:09] <sayao> [BTM] gee, but i dont think it will help
[03:10] <[BTM] gee> sayao, what can be wrong tho ?
[03:11] <sayao> [BTM] gee, i dont know..
[03:11] <|QuaD|> gnome works for me again!
[03:11] <|QuaD|> finally
[03:11] <Amroc> lamont, you alive?
[03:20] <Seq> does anybody know why I only get sound from gstreamer when using ESD output (alsa and oss both don't work)? And no sound from non-gst anything on the system.
[03:20] <punkass_> anyone know of a good how-to to make deb packages?
[03:21] <punkass_> Seq: if i had to guess its cuz esd takes over the soundcard
[03:22] <punkass_> i had to kill ESD to make alsa etc work
[03:22] <Seq> punkass: that would be my guess too, but i thought alsa supported multiple audio streams?
[03:23] <punkass_> yes but i think esd is a sound server not just a stream
[03:23] <punkass_> so alsa and esd..do battle
[03:24] <Seq> esd has no hardware interface, it goes through the alsa drivers, right? its not like they're conflicting, esd needs alsa (or oss) to work
[03:25] <punkass_> you could be right...honestly i am not sure
[03:25] <Seq> and alsa, to my understanding, should allow multiple audio streams (esd would be one, it mixes all it's streams together). I could be off on this, which is why i asked :p
[03:27] <Vigilanty> anybody know of a really good script for X-Chat irc client?
[03:27] <magillo> hi all. someone knows how to install lilo instead of grub with ubuntu installer? I cannot see the lilo install option, even in expert mode...
[03:28] <Seq> Vigilanty: just any script in general? or one to fill a particular need
[03:29] <magillo> manuals says it possible to choose lilo as boot manager, but installer simply install grub without asking anything
[03:29] <Vigilanty> well...
[03:29] <Vigilanty> i have needs...
[03:30] <Vigilanty> I would like somethin like the excursion script for Mirc...
[03:30] <Seq> i have no idea what that is.
[03:30] <stack_> I just installed k3b, but running it causes a Segmentation Fault, any idea on this one?
[03:30] <Vigilanty> hmmm...
[03:31] <Vigilanty> i need an irc client that will allow me to download a list of channels on the server in which I'm connected.
[03:32] <Seq> Vigilanty: like going to the "window" menu and selecting "channel list" in xchat?
[03:35] <thully> Hi - I wondered if there are any plans tp come out w/an updated live CD anytime soon, as the current one has broken wi-fi and ppp
[03:35] <stack_> what should I be using to burn audio cds?
[03:38] <Seq> stack_: i hear k3b is pretty good
[03:39] <stack_> Seq: it just seg faults on me when I try to run it
[03:39] <strixy> hello everyone
[03:39] <stack_> Seq: actually, it seems as though anything KDE related is just bombing
[03:39] <Seq> oh. i've got no idea, then. I havent tried burning audio
[03:39] <adoy|ubuntu> k3b works wonders on that
[03:40] <Vigilanty> hmmm...
[03:40] <Seq> stack_: did you just install the kde stuff? You might have to log out and back in (probably some environment options or path stuff)
[03:40] <strixy> can anyone answer a question about apache2.conf?
[03:40] <punkass_> stack_: i just installed gnomebaker and it seem to work fine
[03:40] <punkass_> but there is no deb package of it yet
[03:40] <Seq> strestout1: not until we see the question
[03:40] <Seq> strixy: rather ^
[03:40] <Vigilanty> maybe it's just because I don't fully know any of the features of this OS, or appliations for it...
[03:40] <adoy|ubuntu> i just drag my mp3s into k3b audio cd project and it does the conversion
[03:41] <punkass_> im hopefully going to find a nice "howto make debs" and then make a package of it
[03:41] <strixy> Seq: Thanks. I want to change from apache2-default yo just /
[03:41] <strixy> Seq: make that 'to' instead of 'yo'... yo
[03:42] <strixy> :)
[03:42] <strixy> I know I have to edit apache2.conf, but I can't find the line
[03:43] <Seq> the document root you mean?
[03:44] <strixy> Seq: yes. (smacks forehead) Duh! I just found 'sites-enabled'
[03:44] <Seq> yeah, i was going to say. stuff in sites-enabled is actually symlinked to sites-available
[03:45] <strixy> I'm new to apache2 as well as a debian base
[03:45] <strixy> Lovin' Ubuntu, however
[03:45] <strixy> Seq: thanks, though :)
[03:46] <Seq> i just switched my server a few weeks ago from debian woody to ubuntu warty
[03:46] <Seq> im also new to apache2 though
[03:46] <strixy> are you running a mail server as well?
[03:48] <strixy> I migrated from fedora
[03:49] <strixy> how does one restart apache in debian? httpd -restart?
[03:50] <willg> /etc/init.s/apache restart
[03:50] <willg> uhh
[03:50] <willg> wrong
[03:50] <willg> /etc/init.d/apache restart
[03:50] <Seq> strixy: yes, postfix
[03:50] <acidrain> hi
[03:52] <jcole> when i compile kernel 2.6.8 under gcc-3.2 i get "include/linux/compiler.h:28:3: #error Sorry, your compiler is too old/not recognized." is this ok?
[03:52] <jcole> i'm using this command line -> MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.2 CXX=g++-3.2 CPP=cpp-3.2" fakeroot make-kpkg --append_to_version -gcc-3.2 --initrd --revision=<IP_ADDRESS> kernel_image modules_image
[03:52] <jcole> am i missing something?
[03:52] <strixy> ls
[03:53] <strixy> oops
[03:55] <acidrain> I need to reinstall windows but I figure it'll overwrite my boot record, how do I make a boot disk so that I can boot back into ubuntu and reinstall grub?
[03:55] <strixy> For anyone keeping track at home, the restart for apache here is... /etc/init.d/apache2 -k restart
[03:55] <crevette> acidrain: dd should do the trick
[03:56] <crevette> or install grub on a floppy
[03:56] <strixy> Thanks Seq! :)
[03:56] <Zotnix> Ah! Reminds me. Anyway to make a bootable ISO image from a directory.
[03:57] <acidrain> thanks
[03:58] <crevette> acidrain: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialRecoveryAndBootDisk.html#GRUB
[03:59] <crevette> acidrain: I think there a recovery part in the Ubunutu CD installer
[04:01] <Verus> Heya
[04:03] <Xenguy> I'll give you an example - it's hard to convince people at work to have a look at setting up a debian mirror (they're all ga-ga over Fedora right now) when the 'stable' tree is 2 years old :-/
[04:03] <Xenguy> ww
[04:03] <Verus> I have installed Ubuntu and let me just say...wow...I think! It was as easy as windows...easier really.
[04:04] <willg> Verus: it is good stuff. I had a flawless laptop install last night
[04:04] <Verus> Problem is....it didn't ask me for a root password, nor did it let me partition my hd...it was all so automatic
[04:04] <willg> root is disabled
[04:04] <Verus> sheesh
[04:05] <Verus> all one partition as well?
[04:05] <willg> you can enable root with: sudo passwd root
[04:05] <willg> you can enable root with: sudo passwd root
[04:05] <willg> sorry
[04:05] <Verus> cool.
[04:05] <Verus> np. 8)
[04:05] <Xenguy> willg: I assume that one can, if one chooses, disable 'sudo' powers from the 1st user, yes?
[04:06] <willg> sure
[04:07] <BlacKnight|> YAAAAAAY!
[04:07] <BlacKnight|> ok for anyone who has trouble with kde apps not docking:
[04:07] <Xenguy> willg: just checking :-)
[04:07] <willg> Verus: I reinstalled Ubuntu on my web server a week ago, I have several partitions laid out
[04:07] <BlacKnight|> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kdetrayproxy
[04:08] <Gwildor> Verus, you can choose to partition, maybe you jsut got "enter" happy
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> it's madleet
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> kde apps work so well in ubuntu
[04:08] <Seq> Verus: i did multiple as well
[04:08] <Verus> lol. maybe.
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> and everything runs so fast :)
[04:08] <Verus> wasnt much choice really. it was no debian installation.
[04:08] <Xenguy> another off-the-wall question: does anyone know if FAI (fully automatic install) would work with Ubuntu (I'm assuming it would, but have not messed with this at all) ?
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> except my ati card doesnt work
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> fgl_glxgears doesn't run :*
[04:08] <BlacKnight|> :(
[04:08] <Gwildor> Xenguy, i did full auto
[04:09] <Gwildor> Xenguy, takes whole drive
[04:09] <Xenguy> Gwildor: did you need to set up a local mirror then?
[04:09] <Verus> still cant get a root working gonna monkey around a bit with it.
[04:09] <Gwildor> Xenguy, i didnt.....just hit enter
[04:09] <Xenguy> Gwildor: do you mean FAI (the package) ?
[04:10] <Gwildor> oh.......no....sorry
[04:10] <Gwildor> im stupid
[04:10] <Xenguy> Gwildor: OK
[04:10] <Xenguy> Gwildor: no, not at all
[04:10] <Gwildor> Xenguy, just a newb :)
[04:10] <Xenguy> Gwildor: np
[04:10] <GoldeNArX> whats up
[04:11] <Gwildor> hi
[04:12] <GoldeNArX> anyone available to help me set up an ftp server?
[04:12] <bCc`> hmm
[04:13] <Verus> sudo command asks me for a password. anything (including nothing) gives me wrong password. hmm
[04:13] <acidrain> thank you very much crevette
[04:13] <bCc`> happen to be anyone that uses the nick goose in here
[04:13] <bCc`> or is from stephenvilkle
[04:13] <scoon> Verus, sudo is the password of your user
[04:13] <Verus> i've tried it. no luck.
[04:14] <scoon> Verus, what happens if you do su Verus
[04:14] <scoon> Verus, assuming that is your users name
[04:15] <Verus> it asks for password then it doesnt make me root, just stays at user name...ahhh maybe thats just the way it works!
[04:15] <scoon> Verus, no,
[04:15] <Quest-Master> Verus
[04:15] <scoon> sudo asks for your users pwd
[04:15] <scoon> Verus, that was just a simple way to test if you were typing the pwd correctly]
[04:15] <Quest-Master> When you set up Ubuntu, you put in a root password too (from what I remember)
[04:15] <__learner__> how can I change a file owner?
[04:15] <Verus> aye i used it but still not root@ only verus@
[04:16] <Quest-Master> __learner__: Right-click
[04:16] <Quest-Master> Permissions
[04:16] <Quest-Master> And change them there.
[04:16] <Quest-Master> Make sure you are the file owner though before doing so
[04:16] <__learner__> the file is from root. I want to open it with my user. I can't change it that way because I'm not the owner, the owner is root.
[04:16] <__learner__> I want to become owner
[04:17] <__learner__> So I think I need to do it from the console, as root - the owner
[04:17] <Quest-Master> sudo nautilus
[04:17] <scoon> __learner__, just copy that file to your desktop
[04:17] <scoon> maybe that will work for you
[04:17] <__learner__> I did it, didint worked
[04:17] <Quest-Master> sudo nautilus, go to that file, right-click, change the permissions.
[04:17] <scoon> __learner__, copy the file to your desktop
[04:18] <scoon> and then do chmod 0777 the_file_you_are_changing
[04:18] <scoon> but really, what are you trying to do ?  why do you want to own a root file ?
[04:18] <__learner__> tx a lot
[04:18] <scoon> __learner__, man chmod will help you as well
[04:19] <__learner__> Because I copied it to my desktop, But as root, because I didn't have read acess to the file.
[04:19] <__learner__> tx, what chmod do?
[04:19] <scoon> __learner__, check out man chmod
[04:19] <netdur> just noticed, away web browsers... there no way to display animated GIFs
[04:19] <scoon> and that will answer it for you
[04:19] <scoon> and give you some other tips
[04:19] <__learner__> tx
[04:20] <scoon> np
[04:22] <Verus> hmm. I am trying to apt-get upgrade && apt-get update but it is asking me if im root...which im not. "su verus <enter> verus'passwd <enter> aint making me root.
[04:22] <netdur> sudo -s
[04:22] <scoon> Verus, does the $ at the end of your name change to a # ?
[04:23] <Verus> nadda. nope.
[04:23] <scoon> Verus, also, ubuntu disables root
[04:23] <scoon> Verus, check out the howtos
[04:23] <Verus> ok will do.
[04:23] <scoon> Verus, that sounds to be your problem
[04:24] <scoon> Verus, all tho, sudo should work for you
[04:24] <scoon> but you would need to do it like this
[04:24] <Verus> I used debian and had no trouble. i just tried the sudo -s and im auto root now. hmm
[04:24] <scoon> sudo command1 && sudo command2
[04:24] <scoon> Verus, well this isn't exactly debian
[04:24] <scoon> remember that.
[04:24] <adoy|ubuntu> Verus, or open the root terminal
[04:24] <scoon> even tho it is apt based
[04:24] <adoy|ubuntu> then launch from there
[04:25] <Verus> im root@ with the simple command sudo -s. go figure.  I've had redhat, mandrake, libranet and debian all installed at one time or another, this was scary easy.
[04:30] <scoon> yeah it is
[04:30] <scoon> easy
[04:30] <scoon> not scary
[04:30] <Gwildor> anyone notice that most of TSS content today was featured on slashdot as well?
[04:30] <scoon> actually
[04:30] <Verus> lol.
[04:30] <scoon> everything else is
[04:30] <scoon> well
[04:30] <BlacKnight|> hrmm
[04:30] <scoon> except being drunk
[04:31] <BlacKnight|> say i have a debian .diff.gz file
[04:31] <scoon> and "root"-ing
[04:31] <BlacKnight|> and the sources for a program
[04:31] <BlacKnight|> how do i make a .dep for it?
[04:31] <BlacKnight|> .deb rather
[04:31] <Verus> nite folks, thanks again.
[04:35] <Se7h> OT question
[04:36] <Se7h> does anyone has a color lcd module to sell?
[04:36] <Se7h> lol
[04:38] <zenpod> colour lcd module?
[04:44] <netdur> why bootloaders and runlevel removed from gst?
[04:45] <__learner__> good bye!
[04:45] <__learner__> and tx again!
[04:45] <knewt> once base-config has reached the point of apt-get'ing stuff, is there anything else important it needs to do?
[04:46] <siimo> anyone using gaim 1.1 package from backports
[04:48] <Garoboldy> hey guys, quick question. if I am running an older laptop and install ubuntu on it. do I need to set a specific parameter for my cdrom to be read from
[04:48] <Garoboldy> when it gets past the keyboard, and hardware detection..it just sits there
[04:48] <adoy|ubuntu> Garoboldy, did you look at the BIOS
[04:49] <Garoboldy> the bios?
[04:49] <Garoboldy> for what
[04:49] <adoy|ubuntu> yea
[04:49] <adoy|ubuntu> to make sure it will boot from CDrom first
[04:49] <adoy|ubuntu> changing boot order
[04:49] <Garoboldy> yeah it does that LOL read my second message
[04:49] <adoy|ubuntu> ok
[04:50] <Garoboldy> tried nodma but that didnt help
[04:50] <adoy|ubuntu> noacpi?
[04:50] <Garoboldy> ok let me try that
[04:51] <Garoboldy> linux noacpi anything else?
[04:51] <adoy|ubuntu> thinking
[04:52] <Gwildor> how do i find what gtk version i am using?
[04:52] <adoy|ubuntu> noapic
[04:52] <Garoboldy> noapic?
[04:52] <adoy|ubuntu> one of the options
[04:52] <Garoboldy> ok linux noapci noapic
[04:53] <adoy|ubuntu> Garoboldy, linux noapic noacpi ide=nodma
[04:53] <Garoboldy> alright going with it lol
[04:54] <Garoboldy> detecting hardware to find cd-rom drives
[04:54] <Garoboldy> loading a bunch of modules
[04:54] <adoy|ubuntu> nice
[04:55] <Garoboldy> uumm now nothing.
[04:55] <adoy|ubuntu> what is last line
[04:56] <Gwildor> how do i find what gtk version i am using?
[04:57] <Garoboldy> its a bluew screen with a white bar at the bottom
[04:57] <Garoboldy> where I can type
[04:57] <siimo> anyone using gaim 1.1 package from backports
[04:57] <siimo> i cant connect to MSN
[04:58] <adoy|ubuntu> Garoboldy, at a # prompt?
[04:58] <Garoboldy> no, theres no # its just the black square where I can type at the bottom and thats it
[04:59] <Garoboldy> its like its not reading anything from the cdrom
[05:00] <adoy|ubuntu> yup
[05:00] <adoy|ubuntu> clean disc?
[05:00] <Garoboldy> yeah just burned it like 20 minutes ago
[05:02] <siimo> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:03] <siimo> i see backports arent supported here huh
[05:03] <adoy|ubuntu> siimo, tried multiverse?
[05:03] <adoy|ubuntu> siimo, tried multiverse, etc
[05:04] <siimo> adoy|ubuntu, what do you mean? i am using gaim from warty backports  aim works ont it but msn isnt working
[05:04] <adoy|ubuntu> ok
[05:05] <adoy|ubuntu> "i see backports arent supported here huh"
[05:05] <adoy|ubuntu> that was what i was going on
[05:06] <siimo> well no one is replying.. so i said that
[05:07] <adoy|ubuntu> ic
[05:08] <adoy|ubuntu> siimo, i just got in using 1.0 gaim
[05:08] <adoy|ubuntu> to msn
[05:16] <Seq> anybody have extremely high cpu useage in firefox? It only happens after I installed java, but it happens on pages without java too
[05:17] <JDahl> I feel much after installing Hoary... I missed the 100MB+ daily dist-upgrades
[05:18] <Seq> JDahl: i like accidently upgrading to development branches of gnome. :)
[05:20] <JDahl> Seq: Yes, it's great way to really get to know aptitude - holding, downgrading, purging, intentionally breaking dependencies etc ;)
[05:22] <Seq> im still getting used to a graphical package manager
[05:23] <knewt> is there anything base-config does after the apt-get stage that's important?
[05:23] <JDahl> Seq, so what do you do when your system is screwed up and X wont start?
[05:24] <|QuaD|> is there a way to put package requests into ubuntu?
[05:24] <Seq> JDahl: fix x?
[05:24] <JDahl> Seq, using aptitide then?
[05:25] <Seq> you don't use a package manager to fix a problem :)
[05:25] <JDahl> You do if you're problem is broken dependencies is gnome
[05:25] <JDahl> s/you're/your/
[05:25] <Seq> then x isnt broken, its just gnome :)
[05:25] <knewt> that's what you get for depending on gnome :)
[05:26] <Seq> and whenever you were saying aptitude above, i was thinking of synaptic (which i havent really used). I havent looked at aptitude much
[05:26] <knewt> i use aptitude at the end of ssh and ttyS consoles
[05:27] <JDahl> I am not a command-line evangelist, I am just used to aptitude from Debian and it's perfect for me
[05:28] <Seq> i just use apt and dpkg directly usually
[05:28] <knewt> i like the dependency management of aptitude
[05:32] <|QuaD|> weird.... using the standard unix ftp client i get 600kb/s from a site, using gftp (same site, same computer) i get 25kb/s.... any suggestions as to why?
[05:33] <calc> |QuaD|: looked at what it is doing with a packet sniffer?
[05:34] <knewt> ah, that's better. sshd installed now so i can move over to using aptitude over that instead of a ttyS
[05:35] <|QuaD|> calc: don't have time to do the research now
[05:35] <|QuaD|> i will later though
[05:35] <|QuaD|> i was wondering if this was a common bug
[05:35] <|QuaD|> i AM using hoary so anything is possible
[05:35] <Seq> |QuaD|: are they both kilobytes, or is one kilobits, or what?
[05:35] <|QuaD|> Seq: both are in kilobytes
[05:36] <calc> |QuaD|: i haven't used gftp i normally use lftp
[05:36] <|QuaD|> calc: i just downloaded it, couldn't figure it out in the 13 mintues i had, so i went to gftp :)
[05:36] <Seq> i have no idea why you'd see such a huge discrepancy. although 600KB/s really rocks if its over anything but a local network
[05:37] <calc> |QuaD|: lftp is even easier to use than netkit ftp
[05:37] <|QuaD|> Seq: local is boston to florida isn't local :)
[05:37] <calc> lftp ftpurl  then just use get it takes care of binary automatically
[05:37] <|QuaD|> i also confirmed the results with bwm
[05:37] <|QuaD|> its just really weird
[05:37] <Seq> |QuaD|: i meant local as in in your home or business.
[05:38] <|QuaD|> Seq: i know i was just toying with oyu
[05:38] <|QuaD|> (you had no way of knowing where i was transferring)
[05:39] <moquist> heh; just caught myself typing "emerge"
[05:39] <Seq> moquist: i type 'apt-get' so often on my gentoo system now
[05:40] <|QuaD|> apt-get is second nature to me
[05:40] <moquist> apt is getting to be second nature to me.  but it takes time.
[05:40] <lev> i need help with my sound.
[05:40] <moquist> lev: no kidding; I couldn't hear that at all.
[05:40] <Seq> i had been using gentoo for a long time, its almost hard to believe the distro is that old at all
[05:41] <moquist> Seq: yup.
[05:41] <lev> :-D
[05:41] <moquist> lev: 'sup?
[05:41] <lev> Um..
[05:41] <lev> well i have been trying to get my sound card workin for weeks.
[05:41] <Seq> i switched to gnome 2.0 on gentoo. it sucked at the time because all apps were still gtk+ 1.2
[05:41] <lev> and i got this little tid bit from the ubuntu website..
[05:42] <Seq> i remember thinking it was cool when gaim had the option to build with gtk2 support instead
[05:42] <|QuaD|> i think i am finally getting used to gnome
[05:42] <lev> i have to add.. Acpi_something_something=7
[05:42] <Seq> the world was fuglier back then
[05:42] <lev> to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:42] <|QuaD|> i don't care for the lack of integration between apps (kde strives at that) but i am getting used to it
[05:42] <lev> .. i have no idea what to do.
[05:42] <|QuaD|> lev: warty or hoary
[05:42] <lev> warty.
[05:42] <moquist> lev: sounds like you're supposed to add some kernel boot parameters.  do you have a URL for this page you refer to?
[05:43] <|QuaD|> is your sound card supported?
[05:43] <lev> yea.. one second.
[05:43] <lev> yea it is supported.
[05:44] <lev> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/view?searchterm=laptop
[05:44] <lev> i have a Dell inspiron 8600
[05:44] <|QuaD|> i really want ubuntu to add sunbird and nvu to the repos
[05:54] <RuffianSoldier> ok everyone - heres the big quesion - should I upgrade to hoary
[05:54] <|QuaD|> RuffianSoldier: no
[05:55] <RuffianSoldier> |QuaD| but XFree86 wont work!  I just put my Ubuntu HD in a new computer
[05:55] <RuffianSoldier> and I cant get it to work
[05:55] <|QuaD|> RuffianSoldier: i would reinstall it
[05:55] <|QuaD|> in the new hd
[05:55] <|QuaD|> grr
[05:55] <|QuaD|> comp
[05:55] <RuffianSoldier> but!?!?! I LOVE MY INSTALL :-(
[05:56] <|QuaD|> i doubt hoary will fix your problem
[05:59] <RuffianSoldier> |QuaD| ----- I forget, is there an option during the isntall of Ubuntu where I can not install GRUB to MBR?  I want to install GRUB but not to MBR
[06:02] <kdaver> is there any P2P cliento for ubuntu?
[06:02] <RuffianSoldier> yes
[06:02] <RuffianSoldier> bittorrent
[06:02] <RuffianSoldier> lol
[06:02] <kdaver> ok, i never used it before, buy i jus have internet at my home...
[06:03] <RuffianSoldier> can I not install GRUB - cuz I can just make a back up of the GRUB menu and put it back in some other time
[06:04] <moquist> lev: i updated http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/view?searchterm=laptop with an example for you.
[06:06] <RuffianSoldier> Is there anyway I can get X to work?  I mean - i need everything on the HD
[06:07] <RuffianSoldier> HOw can I get X working?
[06:08] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: what's it doing?
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> not starting lol
[06:08] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: any error messages?
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> well ya
[06:08] <|QuaD|> RuffianSoldier: back it up
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> some stuff wotn start
[06:08] <|QuaD|> uninstall
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> back up what?
[06:08] <|QuaD|> grr
[06:08] <|QuaD|> format
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> NO!
[06:08] <|QuaD|> reinstall
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> im not going to!
[06:08] <RuffianSoldier> i dont know if thats my only oprion
[06:09] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: I doubt that's your only option, though other options might be a bit involved.
[06:09] <RuffianSoldier> np
[06:09] <RuffianSoldier> I have 2 other Distros and W2K installed
[06:09] <RuffianSoldier> Ubuntu will be my new project
[06:10] <kdaver> RuffianSoldier: did yo allready try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 just like debian?
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> yes
[06:10] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: so worst case, you can get your data from your Ubuntu install using one of your other distros...
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> ya
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> but I like my settings
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> :-(
[06:10] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: ...then copy your settings, too.  :)
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> I had about 3 months of stuff on that
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> how do I copy KDE and Gnome settings?
[06:10] <RuffianSoldier> and use them again?
[06:10] <kdaver> what kind of videocard do you have?
[06:11] <RuffianSoldier> onboard VIA
[06:11] <RuffianSoldier> which is prolly my problem
[06:11] <moquist> lev: hey.  did it work?
[06:11] <kdaver> UPS, problems
[06:11] <lev> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:11] <lev> THANK YOU SO MUCH!
[06:11] <kdaver> yes, i think so
[06:11] <lev> :-D
[06:11] <moquist> lev: excellent.  np.  :)
[06:13] <hub> I'm less than 1 ft away from my Wifi AP
[06:13] <hub> and the Wifi applet still says "no device"
[06:13] <hub> iwconfig shows eth1
[06:14] <hub> any idea ?
[06:17] <Tsjoklat> blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
[06:18] <RuffianSoldier> i agree
[06:18] <Tsjoklat> hey Ruffian
[06:18] <RuffianSoldier> hello Tsjoklat
[06:19] <Tsjoklat> are you on a rampage again Ruffian?
[06:19] <RuffianSoldier> yes ;-|
[06:20] <Tsjoklat> give 'em hell? :P
[06:20] <RuffianSoldier> Its been a while since I used the Ubuntu installer - can I choose to not install grub?  And make a backup of /boot - then copy /boot backinto /
[06:20] <rvirani> how do I get the kernel source tree
[06:21] <rvirani> apt-get doesnt have the right versions for my ubuntu install
[06:21] <rvirani> Linux legion <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 #1 Thu Nov 18 11:47:33 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:21] <Tsjoklat> haven't seen that option Ruffian
[06:21] <RuffianSoldier> :-(
[06:21] <RuffianSoldier> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:22] <RuffianSoldier> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:22] <RuffianSoldier> One thing every distro needs!!!
[06:22] <rvirani> Any ideas? I need my NVIDIA driver up and running
[06:22] <Tsjoklat> what is it that you want? lilo?
[06:22] <RuffianSoldier> no - nothing
[06:22] <RuffianSoldier> no GRUB
[06:22] <Tsjoklat> why not?
[06:22] <Tsjoklat> how are you going to boot up?
[06:22] <RuffianSoldier> I have other distros
[06:23] <moquist> rvirani: the right kernel version doesn't show up when you do 'apt-cache search linux-source'?
[06:23] <RuffianSoldier> I want SUSE as the main loader
[06:23] <Tsjoklat> huh huh
[06:23] <RuffianSoldier> Well - if I could get X to friggen work that would be nice also
[06:24] <Tsjoklat> I wonder what you are doing most of the time Ruffian
[06:24] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: couldja perhaps copy xorg.conf or XF86Config from one of your other distros, and start with that?
[06:24] <RuffianSoldier> will that work?
[06:24] <RuffianSoldier> and be usuable?
[06:24] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: mebbe.  :)  make a backup of anything you're changing...
[06:25] <Tsjoklat> if it works in that other distro it should work in ubu
[06:25] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: i'd at least do a visual difference comparison before trying it out.
[06:25] <RuffianSoldier> OOH! I can do it in BeatrIX - its based off Ubuntu and Knoppix
[06:25] <RuffianSoldier> where is it located?
[06:25] <RuffianSoldier> the X config document
[06:25] <rvirani> moquist, sorry I did an apt-get install kernel-source
[06:25] <Tsjoklat> what are you using Ruffian? Bea/suse/Mandrake?
[06:25] <rvirani> and the right one didnt show up
[06:26] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: /etc/X11/
[06:26] <moquist> rvirani: np.  so are you all set now?
[06:26] <rvirani> moquist, should be
[06:26] <moquist> rvirani: cool.
[06:26] <rvirani> what is the difference, shouldnt apt-get search the same cache?
[06:27] <RuffianSoldier> XF86COnfig-4?
[06:27] <moquist> rvirani: yeah, but you want linux-source instead of kernel-source.  don't ask me why...
[06:27] <rvirani> lol
[06:27] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: yeah.
[06:27] <rvirani> alright
[06:27] <rvirani> thanx for the heads up
[06:27] <moquist> np
[06:28] <moquist> can anybody explain the difference between "linux-source' and 'kernel-source' packages?
[06:28] <moquist> er, anybody *here*, that is.  ;)
[06:28] <RuffianSoldier> I dont have access to the Ubuntu partition
[06:29] <RuffianSoldier> how can I change it?
[06:29] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: you should be able to get to it if you're comfortable with the 'mount' command.
[06:29] <RuffianSoldier> I have it mounted
[06:29] <RuffianSoldier> i dont have permision to write anything in it
[06:29] <moquist> RuffianSoldier: oh.  you don't have write access, then?
[06:30] <moquist> right.  :)
[06:30] <RuffianSoldier> Doing!
[06:30] <RuffianSoldier> +D
[06:30] <RuffianSoldier> =S
[06:30] <kdaver> is there any kazaa compatible client on linux?
[06:31] <rvirani> moquist, well thanx
[06:31] <rvirani> Im out
[06:37] <fester420> Yes I have a question my router wont work with ubuntu but when I directly connect my modem to my computer it works any suggestions?
[06:37] <ctd> What router?
[06:37] <Cloudchaser> what kind of router? it should be kinda transparent, no?
[06:37] <fester420> A cheap ass compusa one
[06:37] <Cloudchaser> mine works fine without a fuss
[06:38] <Cloudchaser> its a d-link i think
[06:38] <fester420> I dunno why mine wont let me use ubuntu
[06:38] <Cloudchaser> is dhcp turned on on the router?
[06:38] <fester420> yes
[06:39] <fester420> I mean iam hooked on ubuntu but cant use it tghat often
[06:40] <RuffianSoldier> whats the console command to copy a file (it will have to overwrite the file with the same name)
[06:41] <fester420> Iam about to say fuck it and use debian
[06:41] <Tsjoklat> what is the problem fester420
[06:41] <Rene_S> Ok whats the point of Evolution having a check mail every so many minutes ?  Do they expect me to keep it open all day ?
[06:42] <Tsjoklat> Rene_S yes
[06:42] <fester420> When iam hooked up through my router my ubuntu wont connect to the internet but when I direxctly hook my cable modem up to my computer it works
[06:42] <Rene_S> bleh, that blows
[06:42] <Tsjoklat> what router/modem?
[06:42] <Tsjoklat> win modem?
[06:43] <|QuaD|> Rene_S: a lot of people keep it on at work
[06:43] <fester420> Its a terayon modem and a cheap compusa router
[06:43] <|QuaD|> and get notices when they get new mail
[06:43] <Rene_S> I guess
[06:43] <|QuaD|> fester420: wireless or wired (for the router)
[06:43] <fester420> wired
[06:43] <fester420> With cat15 cables
[06:43] <|QuaD|> fester to an ifconfig when itis setup, what do you see
[06:43] <|QuaD|> (connected to the rounter)
[06:44] <Tsjoklat> did you check the wiki?
[06:44] <Tsjoklat> hey |QuaD
[06:44] <Cloudchaser> do you shut down the cable modem before you try the router?
[06:44] <fester420> It shows the ip and everything
[06:44] <fester420> yes
[06:44] <fester420> I restart it and everything
[06:44] <hub> now the wireless applet show eth1
[06:44] <hub> but still does not work
[06:44] <|QuaD|> hey Tsjoklat
[06:44] <fester420> No it dosent
[06:44] <|QuaD|> fester420: can you show us the information
[06:44] <fester420> By the way I appricate the help
[06:45] <fester420> What info do you need
[06:45] <|QuaD|> ifconfig
[06:45] <|QuaD|> i know what it shows
[06:45] <|QuaD|> i want to see your output
[06:45] <Tsjoklat> I want to see your input
[06:45] <Tsjoklat> sorry bad j/k
[06:45] <eruin> is it possible to stream a movie from unpacked rar-files?
[06:45] <fester420> So I need to logg in linux
[06:46] <eruin> err, non-extracted I mean
[06:46] <|QuaD|> Tsjoklat: haah
[06:46] <fester420> Root term or reg tyerm
[06:46] <|QuaD|> fester420: we can only help you if ou show us stuff like this
[06:46] <|QuaD|> fester420: root
[06:46] <fester420> And type ifconfig
[06:46] <|QuaD|> yeah
[06:46] <|QuaD|> maybe /sbin/ifconfig
[06:46] <|QuaD|> i forget if ubuntu has /sbin in path
[06:46] <fester420> With my router connected
[06:47] <|QuaD|> rigght
[06:47] <Tsjoklat> cd /etc/network
[06:47] <Tsjoklat> interfaces
[06:47] <fester420> Ok I will be back in a min
[06:47] <|QuaD|> k
[06:48] <|QuaD|> why would someone not use mirc or a different free irc client?
[06:49] <ctd> mirc isn't free.
[06:49] <|QuaD|> shareware right?
[06:49] <Tsjoklat> keygens do wonders
[06:49] <|QuaD|> Tsjoklat: hehe
[06:49] <|QuaD|> thats illegal
[06:49] <|QuaD|> :)
[06:49] <|QuaD|> no illegal software on my machine
[06:49] <Tsjoklat> |QuaD and? I never said I use it :)
[06:50] <ctd> Tsjoklat: Still not free.
[06:50] <Tsjoklat> |QuaD that's why there is open source and we can use that
[06:50] <lev> why wont dvd's play in totem?
[06:50] <|QuaD|> i used mirc for a while, and never paid or keygen
[06:50] <Tsjoklat> ctd what isn't free?
[06:50] <|QuaD|> lev: xine or gstreamer
[06:50] <ctd> lev: You want totem-xine and libdvdcss
[06:50] <|QuaD|> :)
[06:50] <ctd> Tsjoklat: mirc.
[06:50] <lev> can i get them in SPM?
[06:50] <|QuaD|> spm?
[06:50] <ctd> hrm, SPM?
[06:50] <|QuaD|> making up your own acronyms?
[06:50] <ctd> ah..
[06:51] <Tsjoklat> ctd well since I had to see madam kebab's pic each time I started it up I dissed it pronto
[06:51] <ctd> synaptic package manager, I assume.
[06:51] <|QuaD|> ahh
[06:51] <lev> Yea...
[06:51] <lev> haha
[06:51] <ctd> lev: Make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled.
[06:51] <lev> Okay thanks.
[06:52] <ctd> Compulsarily, I'll say libdvdcss may not be legal in your country. ;)
[06:52] <|QuaD|> i hate my pda.... they won't release a linux sync client or a thunderbird sync client.... everything is stored on backend servers and they only release intellisync for window
[06:52] <|QuaD|> s
[06:52] <Tsjoklat> ctd is our moral man today
[06:52] <|QuaD|> makes me mad
[06:52] <Tsjoklat> if in doubt.. ask ctd if it is legal
[06:52] <ctd> har har.
[06:52] <|QuaD|> is it legal in us?
[06:53] <ctd> |QuaD|: iirc, yes.
[06:53] <ctd> |QuaD|: I'm not expert.. but I think it's covered in the DMCA.
[06:53] <Tsjoklat> *yawn*
[06:53] <farruinn> could someone running hoary tell me what version of libdbd-mysql-perl it has?
[06:53] <|QuaD|> oh ok
[06:53] <Tsjoklat> legal, illegal
[06:53] <|QuaD|> i am running hoary
[06:53] <farruinn> (we need a packages.ubuntulinux.org)
[06:53] <|QuaD|> how do i check the version?
[06:53] <Tsjoklat> you can look it up
[06:53] <Tsjoklat> archives.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <farruinn> ah true
[06:54] <ctd> farruinn: 2.9003-3
[06:54] <farruinn> ok, thanks
[06:54] <ctd> |QuaD|: Take a look, some iPaqs can run linux. ;)
[06:54] <farruinn> btw |QuaD|, it'd be apt-cache show package
[06:54] <farruinn> or just search for it in synaptic
[06:55] <|QuaD|> ctd: i hav ea pda phone
[06:56] <ctd> ah
[06:56] <|QuaD|> and sync is all internet based... no cable required
[06:56] <|QuaD|> for windows client
[06:57] <ctd> hrm, bluetooth seems to be the big thing for sync'ing these days.
[07:01] <pepsi_> hrm
[07:01] <pepsi_> is everything sposed to be in the applications menu in hoary?
[07:01] <Gorx> Hi, don't know if this is *normal*, but I didn't set up any administrator password while installing, and now that I want to apt-get something, it asks me to be SU, so I do, using my normal password, using no password..
[07:01] <pepsi_> sudo apt-get
[07:01] <pepsi_> sudo -s for a root terminal
[07:02] <hub> I still haven't my bugzilla password
[07:02] <hub> wtf ?
[07:02] <Gorx> Thanks you Peltoilves
[07:02] <|QuaD|> pepsi_: i believe its a bug
[07:02] <pepsi_> |QuaD|: whats a bug?
[07:02] <|QuaD|> app menus
[07:02] <pepsi_> oh
[07:03] <fester420> ok iam in ubuntu with out my router i got the info
[07:03] <fester420> root@josh:/home/josh # /sbin/ifconfig
[07:03] <fester420> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:06:5B:22:EF:AA
[07:03] <fester420>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:03] <fester420>           inet6 addr: fe80::206:5bff:fe22:efaa/64 Scope:Link
[07:03] <fester420>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[07:03] <fester420>           RX packets:34 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:03] <fester420>           TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:03] <fester420>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[07:03] <fester420>           RX bytes:7282 (7.1 KiB)  TX bytes:3512 (3.4 KiB)
[07:03] <fester420>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec80
[07:04] <|QuaD|> fester420: paste bin
[07:04] <fester420> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[07:04] <fester420>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:04] <fester420>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[07:04] <fester420>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[07:04] <fester420>           RX packets:1229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:04] <fester420>           TX packets:1229 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:04] <fester420>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[07:04] <fester420>           RX bytes:87165 (85.1 KiB)  TX bytes:87165 (85.1 KiB)
[07:05] <fester420> is that the right infp
[07:05] <|QuaD|> yeah
[07:05] <|QuaD|> next time use a pastebin
[07:05] <|QuaD|> or you will probably be kicked
[07:05] <fester420> my bad
[07:05] <fester420> i dint know
[07:05] <Gorx> Though GCC would be installed at least
[07:05] <|QuaD|> so it is getting an address hmmm
[07:05] <hub> fester420: what is the problem ?
[07:05] <|QuaD|> fester420: whats your local ip now
[07:05] <|QuaD|> with winblows
[07:05] <RuffianSoldier> who here has heard of BeatrIX yet?
[07:05] <fester420> iam not through my router
[07:05] <knewt> gah, been too long since i've done this. how would i go about preventing certain modules from being loaded?
[07:06] <|QuaD|> why?
[07:06] <fester420> it dosent work
[07:06] <|QuaD|> are you on windows?
[07:06] <fester420> i cant get on the net in ubuntu witgh my router
[07:06] <fester420> no iam in ubuntu
[07:06] <|QuaD|> wait... that is your ip address through the router
[07:06] <|QuaD|> or not throuhg it
[07:06] <fester420> i directly connected my modem to my computer
[07:06] <fester420> yes
[07:06] <|QuaD|> i need the one through the modem
[07:07] <|QuaD|> grr
[07:07] <|QuaD|> router
[07:07] <fester420> o ok
[07:07] <fester420> ill get it now
[07:07] <Se7h> OT question
[07:07] <|QuaD|> that could actually be your problem
[07:07] <Se7h> does anyone has a color lcd module to sell?
[07:07] <fester420> where is pastbin
[07:07] <|QuaD|> pastebin.org
[07:08] <cowbud> networkmanager still isn't in ubuntu?
[07:09] <fester420> paste bin is being jewish
[07:09] <fester420> i imed them to u
[07:10] <Gmail> fester420: PASTEBIN
[07:10] <Tsjoklat> fester420 no need for that please
[07:10] <fester420> it says underr constrution
[07:10] <fester420> i dint mean to
[07:11] <|QuaD|> fester420: fuck you.... i am jewish
[07:11] <fester420> so am i
[07:11] <fester420> no joke
[07:11] <|QuaD|> you know what... i am done helping oyu
[07:11] <|QuaD|> if someone else wants to, let them
[07:11] <fester420> fine then iam gone
[07:11] <|QuaD|> lol
[07:12] <Gorx> Vive le respect
[07:12] <Tsjoklat> testy
[07:12] <RuffianSoldier> hey Ivy60Quaff
[07:15] <knewt> anyone know how to forceably prevent certain kernel modules from being loaded? i haven't really played with modules in ages
[07:16] <housetier> delete them
[07:16] <knewt> won't the next update via aptitude put them back?
[07:17] <housetier> possibly :)
[07:17] <grif2010> hi guys! i have just installed heroes3 using wine to directory Z:\(what's that?) and so where can i find it now?
[07:18] <Agrajag> put them in /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[07:18] <knewt> not being loaded by hotplug, being pulled in earlier than that
[07:19] <Agrajag> then delete them
[07:19] <Agrajag> or build your own kernel, and leave them out
[07:21] <MasterShake> If you're not doing anything help serve the ubuntu ISO torrents.
[07:22] <|QuaD|> wtf?
[07:23] <knewt> hmm, i suppose i'm not going to be booting into the standard ubuntu kernel except in emergencies anyway, so it doesn't matter too much if i have extraneous modules about
[07:23] <Gmail> why?
[07:24] <knewt> Gmail: aimed at me?
[07:24] <Gmail> yes
[07:27] <knewt> i need to build a custom kernel for certain bits of functionality
[07:28] <knewt> while i think about it, what's the best way to stop a daemon being loaded by rc.d such that it doesn't get added back again later?
[07:30] <Garoboldy> when something fails to load on boot for a pcmcia device (xircom ethernet to be exact). can we load it after boot?
[07:30] <Garoboldy> or install one or something
[07:32] <dr_willis_> should be able to manually load and unload modules
[07:32] <dr_willis_> and restart the pcmcia services - i recall
[07:32] <Garoboldy> ok, yeah I have no clue how to do that LOL..very new to this
[07:33] <farruinn> modprobe <module> ?
[07:33] <farruinn> er, sudo modprobe <module>
[07:34] <Garoboldy> sorry got logged out
[07:34] <Garoboldy> what did you say?
 modprobe <module> ?
 er, sudo modprobe <module>
[07:35] <Garoboldy> where can I find out what module it is...It doesnt wait long enough for me to see where it is
[07:35] <dr_willis_> use the modprobe command. but i cant rember how to restart the pcmcia services.. actually I think the hotplug service should load the stuff if you just pop the pcmcia card out/inb
[07:35] <dr_willis_> check 'dmesg' output to see errors and info is always where i start
[07:36] <Garoboldy> oh never looked at that before
[07:36] <Garoboldy> cool
[07:36] <farruinn> it should tell you what you're looking for, if not /var/log/syslog should
[07:36] <Garoboldy> ok let me try that real fast
[07:38] <Garoboldy> error inserting xircom_tulip_cp ...thats what it said...
[07:39] <farruinn> so I would try sudo modprobe xircom_tulip_cp
[07:39] <knewt> ooh cool. dpkg-statoverride is nice
[07:40] <Garoboldy> module not found
[07:40] <Garoboldy> hhmm
[07:41] <Garoboldy> can I view the dmesg from console
[07:42] <farruinn> yes
[07:43] <Garoboldy> ok?
[07:45] <farruinn> it should show the stuff that flew by at startup
[07:46] <Garoboldy> oh ok, yeah I was seeing how to get to view it from console
[07:50] <huwr> Do you guys know of any way of installing Ubuntu on a usb flash drive?
[07:50] <huwr> sort of like the LiveCD, only for a flash drive?
[07:52] <RuffianSoldier> whats the console command to copy and paste something?
[07:53] <farruinn> RuffianSoldier, copy and paste something from console to another app?  from one part of file to another?
[07:53] <RuffianSoldier> I mean- copy and paste xfrees config from one place to another
[07:53] <RuffianSoldier> VIA console
[07:53] <farruinn> oh, copy the entire file?  cp foo bar
[07:54] <RuffianSoldier> kk
[07:54] <farruinn> just becareful that you don't overwrite something, because it won't ask
[08:04] <ianh_> can someone help me please
[08:04] <ianh_> PLZ can someone help me?
[08:04] <farruinn> ianh_ try asking a question
[08:05] <ianh_> i am using xnview to view tiff filess
[08:05] <ianh_> farruinn > how can i integrate it into evolution
[08:05] <Synek> hi
[08:06] <farruinn> ianh_, sorry, I don't use evolution or xnview =(
[08:06] <ianh_> how can i associate tiff file to open directly with xnview
[08:08] <ianh_> how can i associate tiff file to open directly with xnview plz
[08:08] <farruinn> ianh_, asking your question twice within the span of two minutes will not get you help any faster
[08:09] <Notos> hello :D
[08:09] <Notos> does any one know how to install a USB ADSL Modem?
[08:10] <Notos> my modem is a SpeedStream 5200 and i ve do a lsusb it was decteted as SS 5200 ?
[08:10] <Notos> ... i mean (!)
[08:18] <punkass_> anyone know of a good howto for making debs?
[08:19] <farruinn> punkass_, I would start by looking for something on debian.org
[08:20] <punkass_> yeah i was there...found lots how to use apt etc just not make packages
[08:20] <farruinn> are you trying to make debs from a debian source package or non-debian source?
[08:21] <punkass_> non-debian.
[08:21] <punkass_> think i found one...ill give it a go
[08:24] <Synek> punkass_: sudo apt-get install dh-make fakeroot, cd to directory with source, ./configure --options-you-want, next DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="--options-you-type-before" fakeroot debian/rules binary
[08:24] <Synek> should work in most cases ;)
[08:27] <intinig> is there a way to make a hoary iso with the latest updates?
[08:28] <Gorx> sudo doesn't work :S
[08:28] <Gorx> Or I do not use it correctly :p
[08:29] <intinig> Gorx, sudo command
[08:30] <Gorx> damn it works now what the hell lol
[08:30] <cowbud> rofl
[08:30] <Gorx> intinig you're a wizard thanks you
[08:30] <Gorx> it wasn't working 5 mins ago :p
[08:30] <intinig> Gorx, I just have to think about something and it happens, sometimes I frighten myself
[08:30] <Gorx> :|
[08:31] <punkass_> Synek: thanks..ill give it a go
[08:31] <Gorx> :p thanks to you Wiz and everybody have a goodnight ;) or dayy
[08:31] <Synek> punkass_: no problem, reading a howto won't hurt you anyway ;-)
[08:32] <punkass_> no dont i have to create the rules?
[08:32] <Gorx> And before leaving, what is about mp3 suupport?
[08:32] <punkass_> or it just creates them for me
[08:33] <punkass_> thought there was some file i had to make..that had version, name etc
[08:36] <farruinn> Gorx, have you read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats?
[08:38] <Synek> punkass_: i have a mplayer.deb builded in such way
[08:38] <Gorx> Yes I've read that
[08:39] <Gorx> So I download the oggvorbis thing?
[08:39] <Gorx> and that's all?
[08:39] <ctd> your building mplayer?
[08:40] <Gorx> Eh no
[08:40] <Gorx> (oops nott for me)
[08:41] <Gorx> and what's about reading files on a NTFS partition?
[08:41] <ctd> mount it read-only.
[08:43] <Synek> ctd: well, i've built one :)
[08:45] <__keybuk> *groans* Sangria is *EVIL*
[08:46] <ninj1> anyone else getting a problem (hoary) whereby everything (all filesystems, inc /proc) gets unmounted spuriously - it seems to be at the same time as pppd disconnects
[08:46] <__keybuk> yeah, known bug
[08:47] <__keybuk> though not known why it does it
[08:48] <ninj1> __keybuk: any ideas if it's filed/tracked anywhere?
[08:48] <__keybuk> probably in Bugzilla
[09:00] <abah> why my /dev/sda1 is not exist?
[09:01] <Simira> do you use hoary?
[09:01] <abah> nope..warty
[09:01] <abah> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:01] <abah> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[09:07] <Simira> does anyone know *which* half hours the train leaves Mataro?
[09:07] <Simira> it's like x:45 and x:15, or x:30 and x:00?
[09:08] <ryan> hahahaha
[09:10] <Tsjoklat> avond iedereen
[09:17] <lil_anthony> can someone tell me the command to start and stop ssh server in ubuntu? i looked on google with no luck
[09:17] <farruinn> try /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[09:17] <farruinn> or start
[09:17] <farruinn> maybe even restart
[09:18] <lil_anthony> ok i don't have to do net start sshd?
[09:19] <farruinn> mm, if you have /etc/init.d/ssh it should take care of things for you
[09:19] <lil_anthony> i don't have it
[09:19] <farruinn> have you installed sshd?
[09:19] <lil_anthony> i thougth so i installed openssh
[09:19] <lil_anthony> is it not included with that
[09:19] <farruinn> oh right, that's it
[09:19] <lil_anthony> so its /etc/init.d/openssh?
[09:20] <lil_anthony> sorry i'm new to this trying to figure out how to launch my apps remotely for fun
[09:20] <farruinn> no, should be /etc/init.d/ssh
[09:20] <ctd> /etc/init.d/sshd
[09:20] <farruinn> ctd, I have /etc/init.d/ssh
[09:20] <lil_anthony> file not found
[09:20] <ctd> okay, i could be wrong. ;p
[09:20] <lil_anthony> hmm i just installed it from the repository :(
[09:21] <farruinn> lil_anthony, apt-get install openssh-server
[09:21] <lil_anthony> i did that
[09:21] <abah> argh.. my usb storage doest'nt workkk
[09:21] <lil_anthony> hmm now thats strange
[09:21] <lil_anthony> i did it before and it seemed to have worked oh nevermind i got dependency problems
[09:22] <farruinn> lil_anthony, are you on warty or hoary?
[09:22] <lil_anthony> warty
[09:22] <farruinn> hmm
[09:22] <farruinn> and you got dependency problems?  is apt sorting them out?
[09:23] <lil_anthony> it says errors were encountered while processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_blahblahblah.deb
[09:24] <farruinn> do you have some odd repos in your sources.list?
[09:24] <lil_anthony> thought i had the new
[09:24] <lil_anthony> i can open sources.list and check but not sure which ones i'm looking for
[09:25] <farruinn> ok, so you have added other repos, maybe debian repos, to it?
[09:25] <lil_anthony> yes i have had universe
[09:25] <lil_anthony> and things like that
[09:26] <mojo> ehemm, excuse me
[09:26] <mojo> I need a little bit help here
[09:26] <Tsjoklat> ask mojo
[09:26] <mojo> does anyone know how to uninstall RealPlayer/HelixPlayer binary version?
[09:26] <mojo> seems to be a tough question...
[09:26] <Tsjoklat> mojo there is a thread about that on the forums.. have you tried that?
[09:27] <lil_anthony> far i'm gonna run synaptic so i can get a gui to see whats up with this brb
[09:27] <mojo> ...can't find any related info on the Helix forum
[09:27] <mojo> Tsjoklat: can u point me out some URL?
[09:27] <Tsjoklat> mojo hold a sec alrighty
[09:28] <punkass_> ok so i was able to build a deb package..anyone know a trick to get it to stick in a menu item?
[09:28] <Tsjoklat> mojo what I did was d/l the bin chmod it to 755 +X and that's it
[09:28] <lil_anthony> says dbdrive is locked by another process
[09:29] <farruinn> lil_anthony, you must have an apt-get install or something somewhere that hasn't quit
[09:29] <Tsjoklat> zenwhen are you still awake?
[09:29] <lil_anthony> i can look with pgrep can't i?
[09:30] <farruinn> er, sure.  I'd just check my terminals
[09:30] <lil_anthony> nothing running
[09:30] <lil_anthony> in that respect
[09:30] <Tsjoklat> mojo http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=81152
[09:30] <mojo> let me check, thx lad
[09:30] <Tsjoklat> mojo! dangrabbit I am not your lad lol
[09:31] <Tsjoklat> how long will you continue saying that
[09:31] <farruinn> lil_anthony, look for dpkg, apt, dselect, aptitude, or even another instance of synaptic
[09:32] <lil_anthony> i'm looking thanks
[09:33] <lil_anthony> pgrep shows nothing
[09:33] <padlef0t> hello everyone
[09:34] <mojo> Tsjoklat: I can't find any related info in that forum, it's seems to me there is no Uninstall feature in bin version yet
[09:34] <Tsjoklat> mojo you want to uninstall it?
[09:35] <lil_anthony> so there is no way to see what has config.dat locked?
[09:35] <Tsjoklat> lil_anthony try logging out?
[09:36] <mojo> Tsjoklat: yes
[09:36] <Tsjoklat> mojo did you try in that dir in a console make uninstall?
[09:37] <mojo> Tsjoklat: the thing is I want to switch to Debian version, first I need to get rid of the already bin installed version
[09:37] <mojo> Tsjoklat: let me try
[09:37] <Tsjoklat> mojo yeah you do... and what deb version? you mean a deb file or yet another bin?
[09:37] <lil_anthony> ok let me try that
[09:38] <mojo> Tsjoklat: not work at all, I found some guy online debianized the RealPlayer so I intend to switch to their version
[09:39] <Tsjoklat> mojo what do you mean by debianized RP?
[09:39] <mojo> Tsjoklat: ok let me explain, there is no such official Deb
[09:40] <mojo> Tsjoklat: they only provide Bin and RPM
[09:40] <Tsjoklat> mojo yes
[09:40] <BrittMan914> hey guys
[09:40] <BrittMan914> question
[09:40] <BrittMan914> how do i set my IP manually in console
[09:40] <Tsjoklat> ipconfig
[09:41] <padlef0t> ifconfig eth0 *.*.*.* f.ex
[09:41] <BrittMan914> i was gonna say
[09:41] <lil_anthony> this is crazy even after reloggin it still says its locked :(
[09:41] <BrittMan914> ipconfig didnt work
[09:41] <Tsjoklat> lil_anthony did it work?
[09:41] <padlef0t> sudo ifconfig eth0 *.*.*.*
[09:41] <BrittMan914> cool
[09:41] <mojo> Tsjoklat: and yes, do u know how to remove an mime-type Open With.. entries? some entries are unable to remove
[09:41] <Tsjoklat> lil_anthony reboot?
[09:41] <Tsjoklat> mojo properties
[09:41] <BrittMan914> what about like gateway IP
[09:41] <BrittMan914> and DNS
[09:42] <lil_anthony> well i guess i can kill X wouldn't that work?
[09:42] <farruinn> lil_anthony, that's fucked up.  for a fast reboot do a sudo shutdown -f now, then when you get the # just hit ctrl-d
[09:42] <BrittMan914> does it just get that from DHCP
[09:42] <Tsjoklat> BrittMan914 cd /etc/network/interfaces
[09:42] <cef> BrittMan914: if you're trying to do it permanently, look at /etc/network/interfaces (it's a file)
[09:42] <lil_anthony> ok
[09:42] <lil_anthony> let me try and thanks
[09:42] <padlef0t> BrittMan914: try running dhclient
[09:42] <mojo> Tsjoklat: you try, some entries can't be removed!
[09:42] <cef> BrittMan914: also 'man interfaces' is your friend
[09:42] <Tsjoklat> mojo lol I don't need to remove anything you do!
[09:43] <Tsjoklat> BrittMan914 edit the interfaces file to your liking and a modprobe
[09:43] <mojo> Tsjoklat: sigh the gnome-panel has been removed in latest update, now I left with a blank desktop, how sad...
[09:43] <theantix> ubuntu admins: what is the proper procedure if I find a bug for specific hardware and a workaround?  Should I post it to bugzilla, put it on a wiki page, or something else?
[09:43] <padlef0t> BrittMan914: to set a default gateway: route add default gw *.*.*.*
[09:43] <BrittMan914> okay
[09:43] <Tsjoklat> mojo oh yeah I read about that.. heheh sorry
[09:44] <BrittMan914> yeah i dont get this much
[09:44] <cef> theantix: not an ubuntu admin, but that depends on if the bug is an actual hardware bug, or a bug in software somewhere with specific hardware
[09:44] <BrittMan914> um alrigth man interfaces
[09:45] <lil_anthony> geeze finally :)
[09:45] <Tsjoklat> BrittMan914 what is it taht you want to do?
[09:45] <theantix> cef: it's a sort of famous bug with toshiba laptop keyboards that causes key stutters
[09:45] <Tsjoklat> lil_anthony you killed it?
[09:45] <lil_anthony> yeah
[09:45] <BrittMan914> well i am runnign a WWW server on port 80
[09:45] <BrittMan914> and i have a router
[09:45] <lil_anthony> openssh installed now i think
[09:45] <lil_anthony> now to figure this thing out haha
[09:45] <cef> theantix: if it's a real hardware only bug, the wiki is best. if it's like a kernel or tool issue not detecting or mal-detecting hardware, then bugzilla
[09:45] <BrittMan914> I want this computer to have the IP xxx.xxx.xxx.102
[09:45] <cef> theantix: how'd you fix it?
[09:45] <farruinn> lil_anthony, you need openssh-server though
[09:45] <BrittMan914> and it always changes
[09:45] <lil_anthony> yeah thats what i got
[09:45] <BrittMan914> due to DHCP
[09:46] <lil_anthony> apt-get install openssh-server
[09:46] <farruinn> ok
[09:46] <padlef0t> then kill the DHCP
[09:46] <theantix> cef, via a few xkbset commands.  it's a known workaround, but I just want to make it public for ubuntu users to find
[09:46] <padlef0t> killall -9 dhcpcd
[09:46] <padlef0t> :P
[09:46] <lil_anthony> now tell me if this is correct or not i thought all i do now is just go to cygwin and type ssh -l username@hostname
[09:46] <padlef0t> and configure your network manually..
[09:46] <lil_anthony> and then connect and change the display?
[09:47] <padlef0t> BrittMan914: Gnome has a network app for this
[09:47] <BrittMan914> yeah i know that
[09:47] <cef> theantix: well probably wiki is best, but if something can detect those toshi's that have this issue via software, also add it to bugzilla
[09:47] <BrittMan914> probably I shoudl have done that
[09:47] <BrittMan914> just wanted to do it all in txt mode
[09:47] <BrittMan914> bc next time I wont have X installed
[09:48] <lil_anthony> asue its asking for my rpa key now  do you know of a good tutorial for this the man im not really understanding that well :(
[09:48] <BrittMan914> okay so in the interfaces file
[09:48] <BrittMan914> i erase dhcp and add what
[09:48] <BrittMan914> along with my IP
[09:49] <cef> change "dhcp" to "static"
[09:49] <BrittMan914> OH
[09:49] <farruinn> lil_anthony, if it's saying "do you want to connect anyway", just say yes
[09:49] <BrittMan914> then use ifup eth1 xxx.xxx.xxx
[09:49] <BrittMan914> .xxx
[09:49] <BrittMan914> it's late sorry
[09:50] <cef> then on each subsequent line add 'address ip.ip.ip.ip' then 'netmask nn.nn.nn.nn' then 'gateway yy.yy.yy.yy' (replace as appropriate)
[09:50] <cef> one command per line
[09:50] <lil_anthony> cool its working
[09:50] <lil_anthony> i see my linux shell
[09:50] <lil_anthony> via cygwin
[09:50] <lil_anthony> tell me something though
[09:50] <cef> save, then in the shell run 'ifup eth0' and you should be right
[09:51] <lil_anthony> if lets say i add xhost + (your ip address)
[09:51] <lil_anthony> would i be able to login from that ip address with ssh?
[09:51] <lil_anthony> like if i'm at <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever and want to login to my box that is <IP_ADDRESS> or so on
[09:52] <farruinn> afaik X11 doesn't have anything to do with it...
[09:52] <lil_anthony> i thought thats what it did youc hange the export display
[09:53] <farruinn> lil_anthony, I think y ou must know more about the actual use of ssh than I do because I have no idea what you're talking about =(
[09:53] <lil_anthony> no probably its the opposite
[09:53] <lil_anthony> i'm probably speaking garbage just going on what i'm reading
[09:54] <lil_anthony> i googled for running x11 applications remotely
[09:54] <lil_anthony> and it has got me this far :)
[09:54] <ctd> use ssh -X
[09:54] <ctd> for X11 forwarding
[09:54] <lil_anthony> ok i seen that but didn't understand so its ssh -X username@host?
[09:54] <ctd> yeap
[09:55] <lil_anthony> k
[09:55] <lil_anthony> tryn now
[09:56] <Simira> *sigh*
[09:56] <lil_anthony> damn firewall
[09:56] <lil_anthony> brb
[09:56] <Simira> time for leaving then...
[09:57] <lil_anthony> error in locking authority file
[09:57] <lil_anthony> is that talking about that key i made?
[10:09] <mojo> Are there anyway to remove mime-type default open program entries that are set 'unremovabled' via Properties?
[10:14] <scizzo> MikeGTN: :)
[10:18] <MikeGTN> hi scizzo
[10:22] <scizzo> MikeGTN: so you are running ubuntu.. :) and not telling me about it! GRR! :)
[10:23] <MikeGTN> scizzo: I've been running it for some time - I'm amazed I didn't mention it before :)
[10:23] <scizzo> MikeGTN: you don't like me anymore...do you.. :P
[10:23] <scizzo> MikeGTN: haha
[10:24] <MikeGTN> scizzo: hehe, well you didn't tell me that YOU were running ubuntu either! :)
[10:24] <scizzo> MikeGTN: oops..
[10:24] <scizzo> MikeGTN: caught me..
[10:24] <spacey`ki> do i break things when i use a 2.4 kernel on ubuntu?
[10:24] <spacey`ki> udev or something?
[10:25] <scizzo> spacey`ki: why would you use a 2.4 kernel?
[10:25] <melazyboy> Is fglrx working with xorg yet?
[10:25] <sabdf1> space`ki: some of the desktop stuff might not work
[10:25] <spacey`ki> its a server:D
[10:25] <sabdf1> alsa, udev, hotplug-auto-mounter
[10:25] <spacey`ki> wanted to test ubuntu on server:)
[10:26] <spacey`ki> so it does not matter
[10:26] <sabdf1> spacey`ki: should be no problem
[10:26] <spacey`ki> but i can stop udev from loading then i guess
[10:26] <sabdf1> just type "custom" at the boot prompt when installing, install base package set, then cherry pick server apps using aptitude
[10:26] <spacey`ki> sabdf1, i'm a step ahead of you =P
[10:26] <spacey`ki> i already have the system installed
[10:27] <spacey`ki> but i'm narrowing down running services. especially if they don't work in 2.4
[10:27] <sabdf1> spacey`ki: that's ok, working with this crowd i'm used to that :-)
[10:27] <spacey`ki> like udev it seems=P
[10:27] <spacey`ki> hehe:)
[10:28] <lil_anthony> cool thanks guys i finally got it working :)
[10:28] <melazyboy> Does anyone know if the problem between fglrx and the newest version of Xorg has been fixed, or if there is anyway to get 3d hardware acceleration working with Xorg?
[10:28] <lil_anthony> pretty neat actually loading applications from linux and it look like its on my other system
[10:31] <cornflake> does anyone know of a howto to compile a custom kernel for ubuntu?
[10:32] <spacey`ki> scizzo, main point for me was that there is no up to date grsecurity patch for 2.6
[10:33] <spacey`ki> i don't feel like patching all the security holes in 2.6.7 manually
[10:33] <mos__> does anyone know of a command line app to resolve the dns of a site and spits its ip back out at me?
[10:33] <Tsjoklat> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html#INSTALL-KERNEL-PKG
[10:33] <spacey`ki> mos__, ping works:)
[10:33] <mos__> ah ping will give me the ip?
[10:33] <spacey`ki> sure
[10:33] <scizzo> spacey`ki: aaa..
[10:33] <scizzo> spacey`ki: sorry..hehe
[10:34] <spacey`ki> scizzo, no harm done ;)
[10:34] <mos__> the dns server on my appt's network is soo slow
[10:35] <spacey`ki> use another one
[10:36] <mos__> wish i could
[10:36] <spacey`ki> you can also run some simple dns thingy at your own place
[10:36] <lamont_r> mos__: either host or dig
[10:36] <mos__> spacey`ki: what would i need to do to set that up
[10:38] <spacey`ki> not sure because i'm not in dns stuff but i think its called caching dns. and most dns servers kan do that. and i think there are a few small ones which do just that
[10:39] <zenlunatic> cornflake look in the linux documentation project. they have instructions how to compile a kernel there.
[10:41] <cornflake> Tsjoklat: thanx
[10:41] <tranceConscious> hello everyone
[10:42] <tranceConscious> need some help...
[10:42] <Tsjoklat> cornflake make sure you got bzip2 and module-init tools installed... doesn't say on the page
[10:42] <scizzo> tranceConscious: ask the question
[10:42] <mos__> dont ask to ask a question just ask it
[10:43] <tranceConscious> I downloaded warty-release-install-amd64.iso yesterday at my office computer.
[10:43] <tranceConscious> opened it with magiciso and extracted all the files to a temp dir just to check that it is not corrupt.
[10:43] <tranceConscious> then I tried burning it with nero and nero repeatedly hanged
[10:44] <cornflake> Tsjoklat: well... it's compiling now... so i'll just find out in an hour...
[10:44] <mos__> tranceConscious: why didnt you just check the md5
[10:44] <tranceConscious> eventually I used magiciso to burn it
[10:44] <nir-> hello
[10:44] <tranceConscious> when I took it home, the cd would not boot
[10:44] <tranceConscious> what can I do???
[10:44] <tranceConscious> how do you md5 check files in windows?
[10:45] <nir-> how i can set an ADSL connection .. is there any adsl-setup script ?
[10:45] <scizzo> tranceConscious: are you actually telling the system to boot from CD?
[10:45] <tranceConscious> yes
[10:45] <scizzo> tranceConscious: tried using a boot disk?
[10:45] <mos__> mirc can do it with //echo $md5(filename) or somthing like that
[10:45] <tranceConscious> no
[10:46] <padlef0t> i hate this country
[10:46] <padlef0t> cold freezing hell
[10:46] <scizzo> tranceConscious: could you  try that?
[10:46] <padlef0t> my weather forecast said "Freezing Fog" today..
[10:46] <mos__> haha
[10:46] <tranceConscious> where can I get the boot disk from. is it somewhere on the warty-release-install-amd64.iso cd?
[10:46] <nir-> hello... how i can setup an adsl connection in ubuntu ?
[10:46] <padlef0t> no wonder we have the highest usage of anti-depresive drugs..
[10:47] <mos__> its a little cool out right now here (78F)
[10:47] <padlef0t> nir-: have you installed ubuntu?
[10:47] <nir-> yes
[10:47] <padlef0t> and it didnt work on its own?
[10:48] <nir-> nope
[10:48] <nir-> its should be automatic ?
[10:48] <scizzo> tranceConscious: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:48] <padlef0t> there is a network app in Gnome, where you can manually configure it..
[10:48] <scizzo> tranceConscious: look at that...maybe you can get some ideas from that
[10:48] <padlef0t> nir-: are you sure your ethernet card is probed?
[10:48] <nir-> yes
[10:49] <padlef0t> sudo ifconfig
[10:49] <scizzo> padlef0t: Computer -> System Configuration -> Network
[10:49] <nir-> its connected to the modem and i was able to ping the modem
[10:49] <padlef0t> see what it says
[10:49] <padlef0t> okay..
[10:49] <trs80> does a pxelinux file for amd64 exist?
[10:49] <padlef0t> try route add default gw ip.to.the.router
[10:49] <nir-> isnt there any script that lets me do it manualy ?
[10:49] <scizzo> padlef0t: if you want to look at things in the terminal look in /etc/network/
[10:50] <padlef0t> scizzo: thanks, i know..
[10:50] <scizzo> padlef0t: sorry.. :)
[10:50] <padlef0t> :P
[10:50] <tranceConscious> scizzo: thanx man, I'll check it out...
[10:50] <scizzo> tranceConscious: :) np
[10:50] <scizzo> padlef0t: hey...its friday...take a coffee and be happy.. ;)
[10:51] <padlef0t> hehe, my damn school doesnt have any..
[10:51] <nir-> can i d/l adsl-config script from the net and put it on usr/bin ?
[10:51] <padlef0t> and they force us into using College Linux
[10:51] <padlef0t> :P
[10:51] <padlef0t> damn restricted
[10:52] <padlef0t> thanx for caring though scizzo :)
[10:52] <padlef0t> see you around!
[10:52] <padlef0t> im off..
[10:54] <scizzo> padlef0t: well..I am working with Solaris so... :P
[10:55] <jessta_>
[11:00] <netmonk> does anyone have an idea why when i copy files to a usb flash memory it shows me that the files are on the flash drive but when I plug it on another computer the files are not there?
[11:01] <mjr> Unmount before unplugging
[11:01] <scizzo> mjr was faster then me
[11:03] <netmonk> mjr, thanks a lot, it works now :)))
[11:09] <D3vic3> anyone know if there is SD mem card support in linux ?
[11:10] <D3vic3> I want to use my built in SD reader with ubuntu
[11:11] <HcE> D3vic3: mass storage device?
[11:11] <HcE> my CF reader works good in Linux general
[11:11] <mjr> depends on the reader really
[11:11] <mjr> but most should work
[11:12] <mjr> if not all
[11:24] <D3vic3> hmm
[11:24] <D3vic3> what device type does it becomes
[11:24] <D3vic3> ?
[11:24] <D3vic3> I have an Hp pavilion
[11:25] <D3vic3> dunno what chipset the SD reader is
[11:25] <mjr> ide, usb, whatever
[11:25] <mjr> try if lsusb sees it
[11:34] <D3vic3> hmm
[11:34] <D3vic3> its built in
[11:34] <D3vic3> don't think it can be usb
[11:37] <spacey`ki> argh why isn't vsftpd compiled agianst openssl
[11:39] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:40] <BockBilbo> anyone here can tell me how to modify the default access point when booting the system (ubuntu)?
[11:40] <spacey`ki> access point?
[11:41] <BockBilbo> hehe.. wireless question spacey'ki
[11:41] <spacey`ki> aah =P
[11:41] <cef> so you want to choose which essid/wireless profile to connect to at boot?
[11:42] <BockBilbo> yes
[11:42] <BockBilbo> cause it connects to the wrong one
[11:42] <cef> the default settings are probably stored in /etc/network/interfaces (or they can be, haven't used ubuntu with wireless yet)
[11:43] <BockBilbo> i tried that
[11:43] <cef> but selecting one from a list at boot isn't really supported yet
[11:43] <BockBilbo> but it says that the wireless config is saved in the wireless-tool
[11:43] <BockBilbo> or smthing like that
[11:43] <cef> ahh then thru the gnome stuff
[11:44] <BockBilbo> cef... the gnome stuff doesnt work properly for my wireless
[11:44] <BockBilbo> :S
[11:44] <BockBilbo> its really wierd
[11:44] <BockBilbo> ... i need to do it via xterm
[11:45] <cef> haven't got wireless on my ubuntu system, sorry. will have when I get my new lappy, but till then...*sigh*
[11:46] <BockBilbo> thanks anyways cef
[11:46] <BockBilbo> do you know anyone who might know how to fix this problem?
[11:53] <terraces> Hi. Someone tried a packaged way to install php5 on ubuntu ? (as dotdeb)
[11:57] <jessta_> BockBilbo: I'm still a noob, but couldn't you write some sort of bash script to change the wifi config file and make it run at boot.
[11:58] <BockBilbo> jessta_, well... im a noob to.. but thats not my problem actually, wifi  boots at boot
[11:58] <BockBilbo> the problem is that it connects to a wrong access point..
[11:59] <mirak_> there is a huge bug
[11:59] <mirak_> I don't know where it comes from
[11:59] <mirak_> ubuntu lose all the mounts
[11:59] <mirak_> I mean mount consider they are unmounted
[11:59] <mirak_> so I can't laucnh new apps
[12:00] <mojo> hey hey ppl
[12:00] <mojo> GOOD NEWS!
[12:00] <mojo> new RealPlayer 10.02 now run on Debian
[12:01] <mojo> they just fixed the swf issue
[12:01] <mojo> now all Ubuntu users can enjoy RealVideo!
[12:01] <bob2> well, ones on i386
[12:01] <bob2> mojo: it's a known bug, but remember hoary is the *development* branch
[12:02] <oscarh> mirak, try a reboot
[12:02] <mirak_> nobody have a problem with the filesystem distached ?
[12:02] <mirak_> oscarh: it works after a reboot
[12:02] <oscarh> mirak, i've had, one
[12:02] <bob2> mirak_: 21:01:55           bob2 | mojo: it's a known bug, but remember hoary is the *development* branch
[12:02] <oscarh> ince
[12:02] <mirak_> oscarh: but it's not the first time it hapopens
[12:02] <bob2> you don' need to reboot
[12:02] <bob2> you just need to remount them
[12:02] <oscarh> mirak, never seen it again
[12:02] <mirak_> bob2: remount wasn't enough
[12:03] <mirak_> I couldn't relog back
[12:03] <bob2> yes it is
[12:03] <bob2> how did you try to remount it?
[12:03] <mirak_> I couldn't relog to gnome
[12:03] <mirak_> mount -a
[12:03] <jessta_> BockBilbo: I was thinking of a script that could change the ESSID in the wifi config file.
[12:03] <bob2> yes, that's not enough
[12:03] <bob2> you need to manually remount it, since mtab gets screwed up
[12:03] <mirak_> what must I do ?
[12:04] <BockBilbo> ok jessta_ ill try that if i see no way of changin the main config
[12:04] <BockBilbo> ;)
[12:04] <bob2> remove /proc/, /sys and /devpts from /etc/mtab, then try 'sudo mount -a'
[12:04] <mirak_> bob2: mtab ?
[12:04] <bob2> yes
[12:05] <Kinnison> sudo mount /proc
[12:05] <Kinnison> sudo mount /sys
[12:05] <Kinnison> sudo mount -a
[12:06] <teo> hi
[12:07] <d3niz> deniz
[12:18] <siimo> how do i check if my swap partition is working?
[12:18] <OldPlanet> Now i have set up fstab to mount some partitions. It is working fine, but icons to the partitions appear on my desktop. How can i avoid that?
[12:21] <siimo> OldPlanet, when you mount it it appears on desktop
[12:22] <OldPlanet> IS there no way i can avoid it?
[12:22] <siimo> OldPlanet, unmount the partition ?
[12:22] <cef> OldPlanet: tried right clicking on the desktop icon? there might be a setting there
[12:23] <cef> siimo: he wants the partition mounted, but he doesn't want the icon there
[12:23] <OldPlanet> I have tried, can't see anything.
[12:23] <Tomcat_> OldPlanet: Where are you mounting? In /mnt ?
[12:23] <OldPlanet> yes
[12:24] <Tomcat_> OldPlanet: Then try mounting somewhere else. :)
[12:24] <Tomcat_> I think /mnt is being watched by gnome. .o
[12:24] <OldPlanet> ah, thankyou :)
[12:25] <cef> OldPlanet: might also look at the removable storage stuff in the system config section
[12:27] <root__> ls
[12:27] <root__> doh!
[12:28] <floppy_za> hi
[12:28] <siimo> root__, why you in irc as root?
[12:30] <root__> doh!
[12:30] <jessta_> lol
[12:32] <Synek> hehe
[12:32] <Synek> It's strange then he can actually connect to ircserv as root ;)
[12:35] <_mage_work> hey
[12:36] <_mage_work> I'm having some trouble with CPU scaling on my 570E laptop
[12:39] <tux> friend has a pcmcia 56k modem
[12:39] <tux> what would it normally show up as ?
[12:40] <mjr> well, when I was using those they showed up as regular serial ports
[12:40] <mjr> but in these winmodem days, I don't know
[12:40] <tux> well its a pcmcia , it works in other laptops
[12:40] <tux> under linux of course
[12:40] <tux> so ttyS0
[12:40] <tux> hmm
[12:41] <tux> cardmgr and cardinfo shows the pcmcia found anyways
[12:41] <mjr> yes, it should be ttyS? then
[12:42] <mjr> it's possible there may be some I/O area and IRQ issues, but it's been a while
[12:43] <tux> does gnome 2.8 allow for cross compiling kde apps in general
[12:43] <tux> or just for ubuntu>
[12:43] <tux> ?
[12:44] <mjr> what do you mean by cross compiling?
[12:44] <tux> well im running kppp now on gnome 2.8
[12:44] <tux> without kde installed etc..
[12:44] <mjr> if you're asking if it's possible to compile kde apps while running gnome, of course it is
[12:44] <tux> in general one can do it ?
[12:45] <mjr> ok, so you mean running KDE apps under Gnome
[12:45] <mjr> not compiling
[12:45] <mjr> and yes, it's generally possible
[12:46] <mjr> luckily, they've agreed on some standards also, so you may be able to do stuff like drag'n'drop between kde and gnome apps also (ooh, aah! :)