[12:00] <Seveas> that is unique in the linux distro world
[12:00] <tristanmike> Seveas, it's too bad there is a lot of emphasis on the forums if they are sending the wrong information
[12:00] <kemik> Seveas:  what about the debian community!? :) all nice and friendly.. gets you all *warm and fuzzy inside*
[12:00] <slack7384> kamiro87: np, I'm just trying to find a way that you can edit the xorg.conf file with some better permissions
[12:00] <deibi> hla
[12:00] <vbgunz> bob2 recommended something to me yesterday... if I right click a folder in the right pane, the option to open in terminal is available... yet if I right-click a folder in the left pane "the tree" the option was unavailable *but* it seems that while in a folder in the right pane if I right click on an empty spot "on no file or folder" I'll be able to open that folder directly into a command prompt
[12:00] <kamiro87> ah ok
[12:00] <vbgunz> bob2 knows the command... I forgot it
[12:00] <Seveas> kemik, please, don't do that ever again
[12:01] <Seveas> my stomach aches from laughing...
[12:01] <tristanmike> kemik, how many Debian people would tell me to rtfm?
[12:01] <vbgunz> but it seems to suck if the entire window has files... :(
[12:01] <Bergcube> marga_~ If you're running Ubuntu yourself: Download the DVD image via Bittorrent, right-click on it in the file-manager and select "burn" in the drop-down menu.  Worked for me.  :-)
[12:01] <windex> tristanmike, i might tell you to rtfm if you ask a question like 'what is ls'. :)
[12:01] <deibi> alguien habla espaol?
[12:01] <kamiro87> rtfm. ive been told that XD. didnt know what it ment the first time and googled it.
[12:01] <tritium> deibi, #ubuntu-es
[12:01] <Seveas> !es
[12:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:01] <tristanmike> windex, now that's not very nice :P
[12:01] <slack7384> kamiro87: ok, i got a better idea, cd to the /etc/X11 directory as regular user, then issue "sudo gedit xorg.conf" and see if that works
[12:02] <marga_> Bergcube, ok, I don't know why I need to be running ubuntu :).  I can use k3b to burn the cd anyway :)  TNX
[12:02] <kemik> Seveas:  i wont.. i promise =)
[12:02] <deibi> ok thsnks
[12:02] <tristanmike> windex, what is rm -r / again?
[12:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: Do you have any idea why the default inet on Hoary is inetd and not xinetd?
[12:02] <kamiro87> ok. i got a text editor w a file
[12:02] <kemik> tristanmike:  it's bad, that's what it is
[12:03] <windex> tristanmike, it's the command that proceeds a windows installation.
[12:03] <Seveas> Lars_G, that's about to change
[12:03] <tristanmike> windex, now *that's* funny
[12:03] <tristanmike> lol
[12:03] <kamiro87> lol
[12:03] <vbgunz> does anyone here know how to modify the right-click menu for the left hand tree items?
[12:03] <slack7384> kamiro87: any luck?
[12:04] <Seveas> vbgunz, move to england so the left hand trees move to the right ;)
[12:04] <slack7384> kamiro87: do you see the xorg.conf file?
[12:04] <kamiro87> yup. it opened
[12:04] <kamiro87> in a text editor
[12:04] <vbgunz> ;)
[12:04] <Lars_G> Seveas: For breezy?
[12:04] <slack7384> kamiro87: ok, scroll down to the section labled "Screen"
[12:04] <kamiro87> ok
[12:04] <Seveas> Lars_G, no, iirc it's on a BOF for UBZ
[12:05] <slack7384> kamiro87: Section "Screen"
[12:05] <kamiro87> yup
[12:05] <vbgunz> it's just a bit annoying being new and still having to type in full paths in the terminal... it would be nice to browse to it using Nautilus and then being able to access a terminal immediately on the directory...
[12:05] <Lars_G> Seveas: A what for what?
[12:05] <kamiro87> lisi see it
[12:05] <kamiro87> i*
[12:05] <slack7384> kamiro87: do you see text like Identifier, Device, Monitor, Default Depth, etc?
[12:05] <Seveas> ha, knew you wouldn't understand :)
[12:05] <kamiro87> yes
[12:05] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero
[12:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: Congrats you were right.
[12:06] <kamiro87> i see a bunch of resolutions
[12:06] <dobwan> what is the server for the US breezy apt update? I have it as us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[12:06] <kamiro87> in sub section display
[12:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: Did you also knew xchat wouldn't catch it without the http?
[12:06] <Seveas> Lars_G, knew but forgot
[12:07] <Lars_G> Seveas: May the gods bless the ussagle of middle click in linux
[12:07] <slack7384> kamiro87: well, in the areas labled SubSection "Display" and where the Depth is marked 24, 16, and 15, add a "1024x768" and a "800x600" addition to the Modes if they already are not listed
[12:07] <esac> i downloaded grounation mouse cursors, does anybody know how to isntall them ?
[12:07] <Seveas> well, actually 4, but it's 2 left and 2 right buttons
[12:07] <slack7384> kamiro87: ex -> Depth 24
[12:07] <Seveas> weird hp laptop layout :)
[12:07] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual displays (both crt, one on an LCD adapter) so it stretches the screen to both sides?
[12:08] <Seveas> esac, probably: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[12:08] <Silvestre> please
[12:08] <slack7384> kamiro87: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:08] <kamiro87> depth 1?
[12:08] <Silvestre> ubuntu in spanish?
[12:08] <kamiro87> ok adding
[12:08] <Lars_G> Seveas: Nice event
[12:08] <Seveas> Silvestre, #ubuntu-es
[12:08] <Silvestre> thans
[12:08] <Silvestre> thanks
[12:08] <slack7384> kamiro87: you don't need to add in depth one, but you can add it there too, just to play it safe ;-)
[12:08] <Silvestre> Seveas,
[12:08] <Seveas> slack7384, you know we have a pastebin to aid in theses things, do you? ;)
[12:09] <kamiro87> ok. so i just add a nother one exactly like depth 1 right after it?
[12:09] <kamiro87> only w thoes resolutions?
[12:09] <hd420> this is odd
[12:10] <slack7384> kamiro87: you don't need to add anything extra, just add the "1024x768" and "800x600" text in the Modes line
[12:10] <kamiro87> done.
[12:10] <inthenow> hi
[12:10] <inthenow> how do i remove totem without removing "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:10] <vbgunz> what I was really trying to accomplish was this. Browse to a file that needs to be edited as root but browse to it as a regular user... Once the file is found, right click on log in to editing that file as root... I think I found what I needed but sadly.. it's not working for me. I thought if I added the "run as a different user" it might make a difference but no go...
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove.
[12:11] <inthenow> Jowi: what is it?
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: a dummy package as far as i can tell
[12:11] <Jowi> inthenow: to make updates easier
[12:11] <Seveas> inthenow, wiki.ubuntu.com/MetaPackages
[12:12] <dePOLL> Jowi: exactly. i'd think twice before i remove this meta package just to have one app less on my hdd but maybe hamper future (dist-)upgrades
[12:12] <slack7384> kamiro87: Now testing the resolution will require a restart of X11, you can do that by pressing Ctrl + Alt + Bckspace, and then logging back in
[12:12] <inthenow> my updates for breezy are saying they cant install xcommon because dpkg error having to do with xfonts-base
[12:13] <Seveas> inthenow, yeah x-common is broken currently
[12:13] <inthenow> Seveas: does it mean if i shut down X i lose it?
[12:13] <Seveas> inthenow, possibly
[12:13] <Seveas> you picked a bad time to upgrade
[12:13] <Jowi> dePOLL: is it possible to remove a package without removing the "meta-package" as well?
[12:14] <Seveas> Jowi, you can use equis to install a dummy-totem
[12:14] <dePOLL> Jowi: I guess --force-depends would do exactly that
[12:14] <vbgunz> I have a workaround for the meantime... I've added the "run as different user" to the right click menu for folders and files... When I wish to login to a file as root, I right click the item then type in "gedit pathto file" using the location bar as a reference... Wish I didn't have to type in the location though :)
[12:14] <monchis> NEED HELP
[12:14] <albino> Does the ubuntu kernel in the latest release include alsa?  If so, how can I load it?  Whats the module name?
[12:14] <Jowi> Seveas, dePOLL ah, okay
[12:14] <dePOLL> Jowi: however your package database is inconsistent then. so creating a dummy package might be a good idea
[12:14] <vbgunz> typing in just the app would've been nice and less redundant ;)
[12:15] <erUSUL> monchis: don't shout at us then, and ask politely
[12:16] <todd> whats the best gmail notifier application?
[12:16] <slack7384> kamiro1987: did it work?
[12:16] <dePOLL> albino: afaik all the ubuntu kernels include alsa. you have to load driver specific modules in order to get your soundcard working
[12:16] <monchis> sorry erUSUL
[12:17] <monchis> I can't install linux on my pc, don't know what happens
[12:17] <Knelix2> Is there a temperature monitor for my CPU I can use inside GNOME?
[12:17] <kamiro1987> sorry. forgot to save file XD. when i opened xorg.conf again and scrolled down i saw something like what i typed only with more resolutions.
[12:17] <Seveas> monchis, a bit more info would help
[12:17] <Jowi> Knelix: depends if the hardware is supported. lm-sensors is the package you are looking for
[12:17] <Seveas> aaaaaah
[12:17] <monchis> I was trying to install Fedora Core 4 on my pc, which came on a DVD and I couldn't
[12:18] <erUSUL> Knelix xsensors or gdesklets (very buggy) or maybe gtkrml
[12:18] <Seveas> monchis, try #fedora
[12:18] <monchis> On my PC it doesn't boot, but on my brother's laptop it did
[12:18] <inthenow> after removing totem should i put the dummy package back in?
[12:18] <ompaul> monchis, well something happens, you get to a point and consider that you have not been successful , what does it look like at that time?
[12:18] <monchis> I can't use that channel
[12:18] <Lars_G> monchis: .... you can't use that channel? why can't you use that channel?
[12:18] <Seveas> well, don't ask in here, we don't support fedor'as coredumps
[12:18] <monchis> it says something like "#fedora Cannot send to channel"
[12:18] <kamiro1987>  cd /etc/X11/    then sudo gedit xorg.conf
[12:18] <ompaul> monchis, #fedora for core
[12:19] <ompaul> monchis, get ubuntu
[12:19] <kemik> monchis:  download ubuntu and try that instead.. then you can ask in here ;)
[12:19] <ouroboros> how-to setup ATI All in Wonder Pro PCI Graphics driver on AMD64 w/ Ubuntu Hoary?
[12:19] <inthenow> how long is it gonna take for the xcommon to be fixed
[12:19] <monchis> how can i talk on #fedora?
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell ouroboros about ati
[12:20] <ompaul> monchis, no idea
[12:20] <erUSUL> ouroboros: what ati chip?
[12:20] <slack7384> kamiro1987: right on the money
[12:20] <Lars_G> There's no ident clinet on the repos?
[12:20] <Seveas> monchis, how should we know, this is not #fedora
[12:20] <tritium> inthenow, time will tell
[12:20] <kamiro1987> its already there. along with 1,4,....
[12:20] <Seveas> now either get ubunt and get support from here or leave...
[12:20] <monchis> ok.. sorry then
[12:20] <Lars_G> monchis: ask in #freenode
[12:20] <Lars_G> monchis: ask in #freenode
[12:20] <kamiro1987> all the way to 24
[12:20] <monchis> thanx Lars
[12:20] <ompaul> monchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there
[12:20] <slack7384> kamiro1987: sounds good
[12:21] <Lars_G> No ident client in the repos? I can't find ant.
[12:21] <kamiro1987> so i'm assuming it was like that frim the beginning..
[12:21] <kamiro1987> :-(
[12:21] <ompaul> monchis, but it can be worth it - don't use caps
[12:21] <Seveas> Lars_G, ident client?
[12:21] <monchis> Lars, at freenode it tells me "#freenode Cannot send to channel"
[12:21] <slack7384> kamiro1987: what was from the beginning?
[12:21] <monchis> what can i do?
[12:21] <ompaul> monchis, you will have to wait before they give you voice there
[12:21] <sorush20> hello how can i type in Farsi persian in ooO.org 1.3 can someone help
[12:22] <Knelix2>  lm-sensors, xsensors or gtkrml then... where could I find these?
[12:22] <Lars_G> Seveas: duh?
[12:22] <Seveas> Knelix, in the repositories?
[12:22] <Seveas> Lars_G, what do you mean with ident client..?
[12:22] <kamiro1987> the file i was supposed to edit. i forgot to save it. then i opened up the same file again and i saw that the stuff tiat i put in (but didnt save) was there in the beginning and i didnt see it because i didit scroll down
[12:22] <slack7384> kamiro1987: oh, i see.
[12:23] <slack7384> kamiro1987: so the 1024x768 res was already there?
[12:23] <Knelix2> Seveas: Which one? I tried looking in the universe... hmm.. lemme look again...
[12:23] <kamiro1987> ya. but it doesnt come up in the resolution choosing windoe
[12:23] <Seveas> !info lm-sensors
[12:23] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB
[12:23] <Seveas> that one is in main
[12:24] <erUSUL> Knelix xsensors is in unverse
[12:24] <erUSUL>  *universe*
[12:24] <slack7384> kamiro1987: what is the make of your monitor? I've had the right resolutions listed before, but had X ignore those resolutions because the Horizontal and Vertical sync was wrong for the Monitor (eg Not to best performance specs)
[12:25] <kamiro1987> sceptre flat screen
[12:25] <slack7384> kamiro1987: model #?
[12:25] <Lars_G> Seveas: I want to check what my ident server is sending when queried
[12:25] <inthenow> whats the best p2p program right now?
[12:25] <Lars_G> inthenow: Bittorrent
[12:25] <Seveas> Lars_G, ah, comprende
[12:25] <funkyHat> how do i re-enable animated progress bars?
[12:25] <kamiro1987> doesnt say. the only thing is a part number. ct17w
[12:25] <inthenow> Lars_G: you need a source though no?
[12:25] <Seveas> Lars_G, telnet to port 113 and query it :D
[12:26] <funkyHat> i'm sure i had them before
[12:26] <Knelix2> erUSUL: I cannot find it, even after searching for it by name.
[12:26] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sigh I'm not learning another raw rfc
[12:26] <Seveas> funkyHat, afaik you need to recompile clearlooks
[12:26] <Lars_G> inthenow: ?? yep
[12:26] <Seveas> Lars_G, but it's fun :)
[12:26] <chall> What would cause gnome to not allow click and drag?
[12:26] <funkyHat> ah. ok
[12:26] <funkyHat> lol
[12:26] <albino> dePOLL: Thanks
[12:27] <blekos> hello
[12:27] <Jowi> hi blekos
[12:27] <blekos> how is life out there?
[12:27] <Knelix2> erUSUL: All I found was gdesklets
[12:28] <erUSUL> Knelix: apt-cache search sensors works for me
[12:28] <slack7384> kamiro1987: Monitor specs @ http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_ct17w.htm
[12:28] <blekos> i'd appreciate a bit of help
[12:28] <Lars_G> Man... these instant installs are so..... sweet
[12:28] <anile8> I've just installed Ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 280, but the resolution can't be changed from 640x480, any suggestions?
[12:28] <blekos> i tried to run the EasyUbuntu script and
[12:28] <Lars_G> I was so used to gentoo's compiling, that I became upgradeophobic
[12:28] <blekos> it messed my kde
[12:28] <blekos> I like Gnome but I need few things from KDE
[12:28] <Lars_G> blekos: Define messed
[12:28] <blekos> hmm
[12:29] <blekos> uninstalled the whole KDE
[12:29] <blekos> and now cannot apt-get it
[12:29] <tristanmike> ewww
[12:29] <Lars_G> blekos: what happens when you try to apt-get it?
[12:29] <slack7384> kamiro1987: I'm sorry, but I've got a call to go out of my office, so I will have to leave you.
[12:29] <Seveas>  /kick Lars_G Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:29] <blekos> ok here is the msg
[12:29] <kamiro1987> ah, ok
[12:29] <kamiro1987> its ok
[12:30] <slack7384> kamiro1987: hope your problem gets resolved though.......
[12:30] <Lars_G> slack7384: Bomb threat? we got one of these once.
[12:30] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop
[12:30] <blekos> depends:gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[12:30] <kamiro1987> thanx for the help
[12:30] <blekos> i have all required repositories  enabled...
[12:30] <kamiro1987> :-)
[12:30] <Lars_G> ubuntu has joined ubuntu?
[12:30] <kamiro1987> hello. i'm a noob and i'm having problems getting a resolution above 640x480
[12:31] <slack7384> Lars_G: no, it is a call for a meeting (est. 2 hrs!)
[12:31] <Lars_G> kamiro1987: What video card?
[12:31] <CookedGryphon> has anyone else got firefox 1.0.7 and nioticed problems with it?
[12:31] <Seveas> kamiro1987, pastebin your xorg.conf, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:31] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, -> /topic
[12:31] <tritium> CookedGryphon, /topic
[12:31] <slack7384> Lars_G: bye
[12:31] <tristanmike> CookedGryphon, Me, it wouldn't load
[12:31] <kamiro1987> intel 740 agp
[12:31] <slack7384> Kamiro1987: bye, and good luck!
[12:31] <tristanmike> CookedGryphon, well, I would get the 'ole "Starting Firefox Browser" then poof, nothing, it was running but no window
[12:32] <blekos> any ideas?
[12:32] <CookedGryphon> hm, sry its a bit offtopic, but this room loads by default so..
[12:32] <dePOLL> easy fix: uninstall the firefox package (dpkg -r --force-depends firefox)
[12:32] <dePOLL> kill your firefox processes
[12:32] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, look at the end of the topic ;)
[12:32] <dePOLL> install the latest mozilla-firefox
[12:32] <keke> wolas
[12:32] <dePOLL> start firefox. voila.
[12:32] <keke> hello all
[12:32] <kamiro1987> posted
[12:32] <keke> firefox rlz
[12:32] <sorush20> How do I find out what Java firefox is using.. I seemed to have two types of java on my computer.. I ask this since I can't view the letters on a java application on this site.. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html can someone help
[12:32] <CookedGryphon> tristanmike, i can get it to load, but a load of my extensions.. oh i just read taht
[12:32] <Seveas> sorush20, java -version
[12:33] <tristanmike> Seveas, rotflmao, that's funny
[12:33] <dePOLL> sorush20: about:plugins should do the trick (type it as an url and hit enter)
[12:33] <kamiro1987> isong a sceptre ct17w monitor
[12:33] <kamiro1987> using*
[12:33] <Lars_G> apokryphos: What ident daemon do you use?
[12:34] <Lars_G> Damn I have kernel-images comming out of my ears now, time to clean them up a little
[12:34] <Seveas> Lars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends
[12:34] <Lars_G> Seveas: ye
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, why?
[12:35] <kamiro1987> ?
[12:35] <tristanmike> Seveas, what do they do?
[12:35] <Seveas> Burgundavia, because the rock at cleaning up :)
[12:35] <Lars_G> Seveas: Saddly you're not as reasonable as apokryphos, but since he's afk... what ident daemon do you use'
[12:35] <Seveas> apt-get clean clears out the apt cache
[12:35] <Lars_G> ?
[12:35] <Burgundavia> Seveas, say again?
[12:35] <Seveas> Lars_G, pidentd
[12:36] <Bicchi> anyone using gaim-guifinations? Why does the window does not rises when a contact signs in. I have it configured so that it shows up but its not working?
[12:36] <Lars_G> searcher`: Ok, thanks
 Lars_G, debfoster and apt-get clean are your friends
 Seveas, why?
[12:36] <inthenow> how do i know if my printer is supported
[12:36] <Seveas> I assumed your message was in response to that...
[12:36] <Seveas> inthenow, by trying to use it ;)
[12:37] <Seveas> Bicchi, guifications works fine for me here
[12:37] <inthenow> Seveas: oooh thats scary dude
[12:37] <sorush20> dePOLL: Seveas , I'm using libjavaplugin_oji.so is this the right one or not.. I just wnated to know why the site isn't showing th full java content.. here is the site. http://bitaweb.com/fa/htmlEditor.html
[12:37] <Seveas> inthenow, which printer>
[12:37] <Beryllium> What is Ubuntu's equivalent of RedHat's xorg-x11-devel package? I'm trying to compile Wine from source here, but it's damn near impossible to get all the required packages in place before starting
[12:37] <Seveas> sorush20, readlink -f /usr/lib/*firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin-oji.so
[12:38] <Seveas> Beryllium, apt-get install wine :)
[12:38] <Seveas> if you insist on compiling: apt-get build-dep wine drags in all build dependencies
[12:38] <blekos> hmm
[12:38] <inthenow> Seveas: Canon Mp360
[12:38] <vbgunz> does anyone know why drawers on panels *only* show up vertically? I added a menu to a drawer but everything seems to be lined up vertically... anyway to fix this?
[12:38] <blekos> any ever had a problem with easyubuntu script?
[12:38] <Seveas> forget rpm hell, appreciate apt and dpkg
[12:38] <Seveas> blekos, these scripts suck
[12:39] <Seveas> you should not use them as they tend to screw up things
[12:39] <inthenow> Canon told me to - myself about canon driver for linux for mp360
[12:39] <blekos> i had to know that in a bad way...
[12:39] <CookedGryphon> o..k.. i think i jsut re-installed the firefox i already had.. but it works now anyway so i'm not complaining
[12:39] <blekos> can I somehow undo it?
[12:39] <Seveas> probably not
[12:39] <Beryllium> Seveas: I need to compile from CVS, because 20050725 doesn't work with the app I need to get working.
[12:40] <Seveas> Beryllium, then use the build-dep trick
[12:40] <Beryllium> The compile errored out with "Unable to find X11/Intrinsic.h"
[12:40] <apokryphos> Beryllium: the X pack is libx11-dev, but the build-dep would indeed drag it in (and more)
[12:40] <blekos> is there any way you can "fix" problems?
[12:40] <blekos> to re-install ubuntu without loosing your settings?
[12:40] <kamiro1987> the live disk worked with the correct resolution.
[12:40] <Seveas> blekos, post the script on the pastebin, maybe it's undo-able
[12:41] <ompaul> !tell blekos about pastebin
[12:41] <blekos> how do I do that?
[12:41] <Seveas> ubotu should just have told you
[12:41] <ompaul> blekos, read the message ubotu sent you
[12:41] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:41] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[12:41] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[12:41] <apokryphos> kamiro1987: what's the problem?
[12:41] <ompaul> hahah
[12:41] <Jowi> blekos: very easy if you have /home on another partition. There is also http://www.sysresccd.org/ that is brilliant. can ghost partitions and repartition etc.
[12:41] <kamiro1987> cant het a resolution higher then 640 by 480
[12:42] <tristanmike> Seveas, you must have developed a strong bond with ubotu by now
[12:42] <Beryllium> package libicu28-dev cannot be found
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell kamiro1987 about res
[12:42] <Beryllium> that's an unusual error
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell kamiro1987 about resolution
[12:42] <apokryphos> kamiro1987: check the PM that ubotu just sent you; it contains the fix.
[12:42] <inthenow> Seveas: you asked about my printer. should i look somewhere?
[12:42] <Jowi> blekos: but that assumes that you already made a ghost image in the first place :-P
[12:42] <kamiro1987> ok
[12:42] <kamiro1987> thnx
[12:43] <blekos> :))
[12:43] <Seveas> inthenow, it's not yet listed on the (still incomplete) ubuntu compatibility list so best is to simply try
[12:43] <blekos> which I didnt
[12:43] <ompaul> Beryllium, that is in universe in breezy assume its there in hoary also
[12:43] <Jowi> blekos: might be nice to have though. i really recommend that rescue disk.
[12:44] <blekos> this is what i get: Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[12:44] <blekos> and dont know y...
[12:44] <erUSUL> inthenow: linuxprinting.org
[12:45] <blekos> can I install it manually somehow?
[12:45] <Gobbla> !ipv6
[12:45] <ubotu> Gobbla: No idea
[12:45] <Gobbla> gah
[12:45] <vbgunz> are there any better drawers for gnome panels than the current default drawers? I find the drawer very limited...
[12:45] <Gobbla> !tell Gobbla about ipv6
[12:45] <esac> yay, breezy is finally behaving. updating to the -9 kernel seems to have fixed my random hang issues
[12:45] <Beryllium> ompaul: I did a search in synaptic, no dice
[12:46] <Gobbla> !tell Gobbla about config a router
[12:46] <Gizmosis> hiya
[12:46] <ompaul> Beryllium, breezy?
[12:46] <blekos> any ideas how i can install manually   gwenview?
[12:46] <Beryllium> 5.04, Hoary
[12:46] <Gizmosis> does anyone know how to get dc-gui source complied
[12:47] <Beryllium> I assume you mean that universe is a repository, I must not have it in my repo ist
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium, got universe enabled?
[12:47] <Seveas> Gizmosis, why don't you use the ubuntu package?
[12:47] <Beryllium> ompaul: I don't think so
[12:47] <Beryllium> How do I
[12:47] <Gizmosis> what one of them
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium
[12:47] <Seveas> dcgui-qt is in universe or multiverse
[12:47] <ompaul> !tell Beryllium about repos
[12:47] <ompaul> Beryllium see the message that ubotu sent you
[12:47] <Gizmosis> is that what it called just apt-get it
[12:48] <Seveas> yes
[12:48] <dell500> can someone help me with dual monitors on a ati 9600xt?
[12:48] <Gizmosis> i am just installing all of A*
[12:48] <Lars_G> !universe
[12:48] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[12:49] <Lars_G> !repositories
[12:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:49] <Gizmosis> im using breezy
[12:49] <misfit-toy> well, I got X half working after the latest borked upgrade, but no mouse, what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the apps menu?

[12:49] <netstar> When is breezy released?
[12:49] <Beryllium> thank you ompaul
[12:49] <Seveas> netstar, oct. 13
[12:49] <misfit-toy> thx Seveas
[12:49] <Seveas> misfit-toy, hint: /etc/init.d/udev restart
[12:49] <ompaul> Beryllium, np
[12:50] <sophie_> Beryllium: Was your name tritium yesterday
[12:50] <Beryllium> no
[12:50] <Seveas> sophie_, no, tritium is one of the ops in here :)
[12:50] <Beryllium> I've been beryllium since 2000 or so
[12:50] <sophie_> Beryllium: ok
[12:51] <Pipe> I'm having trouble configurin my adsl conn, In the network tools I dont have the add button to ad another protocol....Could anyone point me out where is the documentation on how to do this???
[12:51] <misfit-toy> Seveas, still no mouse but prolly 'cause I edited xorg.conf earlier
[12:51] <sophie_> tritium: do u know what D20 does in life (tritium)
[12:51] <Seveas> misfit-toy, possibly
[12:51] <LittleDan> what repository has java in it?
[12:51] <misfit-toy> Seveas, so should mouse point to /dev/mice now?
[12:51] <Seveas> LittleDan, breezy or hoary?
[12:51] <Seveas> /dev/input/mice
[12:51] <Beryllium> ompaul: I assume that universe is rather large? :) Synaptic seems to be locked up, processing the list I would imagine
[12:51] <LittleDan> hoary (if that's 5.0.4)
[12:52] <Beryllium> ah, there we go, now it's building the tree
[12:52] <misfit-toy> ahh I have a mice there now, cool, thanks Seveas
[12:52] <Seveas> LittleDan, ubuntu.tower-net.de
[12:52] <ompaul> Beryllium, that would be it
[12:52] <indypende> Hi to all
[12:52] <indypende> i have a problem with sane in breezy
[12:52] <hashheadz> hi indypende
[12:52] <inthenow> My printer printed with a non specific driver. does that mean the built scan function also works?
[12:52] <indypende> in hoary all was perfect
[12:53] <hashheadz> what is sane first
[12:53] <indypende> but now i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!
[12:53] <Beryllium> Damn, that's a tad useless. I do "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" and all it says is something about fontconfig-dev and then it says that Wine's build deps are not satisfied.
[12:53] <indypende> wwhy?
[12:53] <JairunCaloth> If I setup an raid array, do the drives have to be the exact same size, or can I use a smaller partition on the larger drive?
[12:53] <ompaul> inthenow, are you using breezy?
[12:53] <hashheadz> JairunCaloth:  u can use different sizes
[12:53] <Beryllium> (I'm trying to build Wine from CVS source)
[12:53] <JairunCaloth> sweet
[12:54] <Gobbla> !router
[12:54] <ubotu> somebody said router was a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[12:54] <Gobbla> !iptables
[12:54] <ubotu> Gobbla: I give up, what is it?
[12:54] <JairunCaloth> does ubuntu support software ide raid arrays?
[12:54] <hashheadz> if u can do the source u can install anything
[12:54] <Beryllium> X11/Intrinsic.h - anyone know what package in Universe provides this file?
[12:54] <indypende> now i can use xsane only with gksudo or i get not device!
[12:55] <robotgeek> nice, the new pbbuttonsd has a feature. disable touchpad while typing
[12:55] <DansFloyd> hey... i need help installing my ATI dirvers... casue the last time i tried i totally screwed my xwindows
[12:55] <Seveas> indypende, sudo adduser $USER scanner
[12:55] <Gobbla> that was an automated answer, right? :O
[12:55] <apokryphos> Beryllium: libxt-dev
[12:55] <Seveas> !tell DansFloyd about ati
[12:55] <LittleDan> Seveas, so it's deb http://ubuntu.towers-net.de hoary main ?
[12:55] <Seveas> LittleDan, no just surf to that site
[12:55] <Gobbla> !iptables
[12:55] <ubotu> Gobbla: What?
[12:56] <Gobbla> what the...
[12:56] <indypende> Seveas, The user `indypende' is already a member of `scanner'.
[12:56] <hashheadz> yes it was
[12:56] <Seveas> Gobbla, don't play with the bot
[12:56] <Gobbla> i dont?!
[12:56] <Beryllium> apokryphos: Thanks
[12:56] <Beryllium> Any way I can find out that information for myself in the future?
[12:56] <robotgeek> !tell Gobbla about botabuse
[12:56] <Seveas> indypende, hmmm.... what's your scanner device? /dev/scanner?
[12:56] <hashheadz> !tell Gobbla about Sex
[12:56] <indypende> Seveas, hp scanjet 2300 c
[12:57] <kamiro1987> it worked.
[12:57] <Gobbla> how about telling me about iptables?
[12:57] <kamiro1987> thanx!
[12:57] <indypende> Seveas, but with gksudo work perfect
[12:57] <Seveas> no bot playing I said.
[12:57] <Gobbla> i dont play, i want to know..
[12:57] <kamiro1987> does anyone know how to set up 2 screens with 2 different graphics cards.
[12:57] <kamiro1987> ?
[12:57] <LittleDan> Seveas, thanks
[12:57] <Seveas> indypende, no i mean the device node in /dev
[12:57] <indypende> Seveas, mh?
[12:57] <Beryllium> !tell Beryllium about the urban legend that michael jackson had a rib removed so that he could fellate himself
[12:58] <indypende> Seveas, talk easy...italian!
[12:58] <Liz> can anyone tell me how to remove firefox without allowing the upgrade to upgrade itself?
[12:58] <kamiro1987> brb
[12:58] <indypende> Seveas, talk easy...newbie(opps)!
[12:58] <Seveas> indypende, hehe, paste the output of ls -la /dev/scanner in a private chat
[12:58] <indypende> ok
[12:58] <Liz> ive tried unselecting it in synaptic ..and its not working
[12:58] <Gobbla> could a friendly soul make obotu trell me about iptables since he doesent like me?
[12:58] <Gobbla> *tell
[12:59] <Seveas> Gobbla, there are no factoids about iptables in ubotu currently
[12:59] <Mirussa> is anyone else having trouble with upgrading to 1.0.7 of firefox?
[12:59] <indypende> Seveas, no such file....
[12:59] <Gobbla> okay, thanks Seveas
[12:59] <Seveas> easiest to do is to install an iptables frontend like firestarter or shorewall
[12:59] <ompaul> Mirussa, have a look at the topic
[12:59] <Gobbla> what i really wanna know is how to make a ipv6 router
[12:59] <Seveas> indypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev | /tmp/dev_list
[01:00] <Liz> omp, im not using any of the backports
[01:00] <Seveas> and paste the contents of /tmp/dev_list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:00] <Liz> so that doesnt help
[01:00] <Mirussa> stop using old crappy backports?
[01:00] <Seveas> 'navond apsync
[01:01] <apsync> hi
[01:01] <blekos> do u know the meaning of:couldn't find package kubunto-desktop
[01:01] <blekos> ?
[01:01] <indypende> Seveas, i can't
[01:01] <apokryphos> blekos: yes; you're typing it wrong
[01:01] <Seveas> indypende, why not?
[01:01] <indypende> Seveas, it is correct this command
[01:02] <Seveas> blekos, you misspelled it
[01:02] <blekos> don't think so
[01:02] <Seveas> it's kubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <Seveas> not kubunto-desktop
[01:02] <apokryphos> Seveas: know any reason why autocompletion isn't on by default?
[01:02] <indypende> Seveas, bash: /tmp/dev_list: No such file or directory
[01:02] <apsync> I have a weird error, when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:02] <blekos> i tried that and get the same meggafe
[01:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: Will I be kicked if I insult users?
[01:02] <p_jnco> hi
[01:02] <robotgeek> apokryphos: autocompletion where?
[01:02] <p_jnco> yes lars
[01:02] <esac> grrrrrr im getting tired of my laptop freezing on me. i wish somebody could advise me what to do to help get this resolved. im worried that this issue will still be here when breezy is released
[01:02] <Seveas> Lars_G, kicked and banned
[01:02] <robotgeek> Lars_G: yep
[01:02] <p_jnco> anyone feel like helping me
[01:02] <p_jnco> hey robotgeek!
[01:02] <p_jnco> =)
[01:02] <robotgeek> p_jnco: hey
[01:02] <Lars_G> damn, well thanks anyhow.
[01:02] <p_jnco> u helped me yesterday
[01:03] <blekos> it's reading dependencies and building dependecy tree
[01:03] <p_jnco> anyone want to tell me how i can change my xorg.conf file
[01:03] <p_jnco> so that ..
[01:03] <Seveas> indypende, ok, then type this: ls -al /dev > /tmp/dev_list
[01:03] <p_jnco> the login screen isnt messed up
[01:03] <Seveas> indypende, sorry, ny stupid mistake
[01:03] <p_jnco> because its too high of a refresh rate
[01:03] <Lars_G> p_jnco: Messed up?
[01:03] <p_jnco> i need to keep it at 70
[01:03] <apokryphos> robotgeek: I think it's general bash autocompletion (not just for commands). Means you can use autocomplete on things like apt (I have it running here pretty well)
[01:03] <p_jnco> its at 75 for the login screen
[01:03] <p_jnco> and its blurry
[01:03] <p_jnco> hz
[01:03] <Lars_G> p_jnco: ah ok..... hmmmm
[01:03] <Seveas> apokryphos, look at ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, your help is all i need... fantastic
[01:04] <Mirussa> well my upgrade to 1.0.7 went just fine on my other computer, and I'm getting some error about classic or something, I thought maybe it was related to my firefox theme perhaps?
[01:04] <robotgeek> apokryphos: i think i have it enabled to, .inputrc stuff right?
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, then?
[01:04] <Seveas> somewhere in there you enable it
[01:04] <Lars_G> p_jnco: Have you set the refresh rate ranges for your monitor in the config file?
[01:04] <Seveas> indypende, that command worked?
[01:04] <apsync> when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:04] <indypende> Seveas, yes yes
[01:04] <viclinux> ok
[01:04] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I had problems today
[01:04] <Lars_G> apokryphos: Bash includes it? I tought only ksh had it.
[01:04] <Seveas> indypende, good, now open /tmp/dev_list in a text editor and copy the contnts to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:04] <indypende> ok
[01:05] <indypende> Seveas, just a moment
[01:05] <Mirussa> tristanmike: you did? did you happen to resolve or are you still having problems?
[01:05] <blekos> how i can see what is loaded in startup?
[01:05] <robotgeek> p_jnco: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:05] <apokryphos> aha, yeah, it is bash completion
[01:05] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I would get the standard "Starting Firefox Browser" for a few seconds, then poof, nothing
[01:05] <apokryphos> Seveas, robotgeek: nah, I mean the one you get with  . /etc/bash_completion
[01:06] <indypende> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2469
[01:06] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's in there!
[01:06] <Mirussa> tristanmike: yes that is what is happening to me now too
[01:06] <robotgeek> apokryphos: i have that enabled too :)
[01:06] <vbgunz> anyone know of the shortcut key for killing an app is?
[01:06] <apokryphos> Seveas: yes, I know.. ;-). As I said, any reason why it's not on by default?
[01:06] <Seveas> pkill app-name
[01:06] <apokryphos> robotgeek: cool :)
[01:06] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's resource-hungry
[01:07] <tristanmike> Mirussa, open System Monitor and end the firefox process
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: In what desktop?
[01:07] <apokryphos> could be at times I guess
[01:07] <vbgunz> Gnome
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: Not sure, sorry
[01:07] <vbgunz> thanks anyway ;)
[01:07] <Lars_G> vbgunz: Use the command Seveas suggested
[01:07] <Seveas> indypende, sudo adduser $USER lp
[01:07] <Mirussa> tristanmike: I did.. ended firefox-bin was the process that I ended.. and then retried it.. still same issue
[01:07] <chavo> bash_completion + apt-get == :)
[01:07] <tristanmike> Mirussa, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed
[01:08] <tristanmike> Mirussa, my issue is resolved, but it was confusing on how I actually got it, but I'll help you as best I can
[01:08] <indypende> Seveas, i've try but xsane don't run again
[01:09] <Mirussa> tristanmike: thanks for any help you can give me.. and I have 3 packages installed and they are listed as version 1.0.6
[01:09] <tristanmike> Mirussa, what packs?
[01:09] <vbgunz> thank you seveas... was hoping a shortcut combination was available
[01:09] <tristanmike> Mirussa, that's good, less than I had ;)
[01:09] <gizmosis> hi
[01:10] <indypende> gizmosis, hi
[01:10] <gizmosis> how are u
[01:10] <Mirussa> tristanmike: firefox, mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[01:11] <ben__> hello
[01:11] <apsync> when I start my pc I get, cannot start x server, cannot load module 'nvidia' (does not exist) I tried editing xorg.conf by changing nvidia to vesa, but still desktop is not loading, how can I download/install latest drivers via terminal or can I do something else?
[01:11] <tristanmike> Mirussa, try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"
[01:11] <indypende> Seveas, i can't see no "scanner-like" device in dev_list... you?
[01:11] <Seveas> indypende, it's a printer/scanner combo right?
[01:11] <indypende> Seveas, no
[01:11] <Seveas> oh damn
[01:12] <arkanes> apsync:run sudo nvidia-glx-config disable and restart x
[01:12] <Seveas> ok, new command: ls -alR /dev > /tmp/dev_list
[01:12] <Seveas> and after that paste the contents on the bin again
[01:12] <Mirussa> tristanmike: okay did that..
[01:12] <tristanmike> Mirussa, then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:13] <skel_> is SUN JAVA on breezy cant fidn it in syanptic
[01:13] <Seveas> skel_, blackdown java is there
[01:13] <Seveas> search for j2sdk or j2re
[01:13] <indypende> Seveas, it's a flatbed scanner, supported with the backend genesys
[01:13] <vbgunz> I have a general question... Is there a setting to make all windows remember there last position? XChat launches and cuts itself off with my lower panel... The terminal always launches in a little boxed window above all others... Image viewer always shows up with a crushed info tree... No matter how I modify these apps, they never open the way I closed them... is there a hidden setting somewhere for this behaviour?
[01:14] <Pjkit> Hi there! Is anyone having troble updating to firefox 1.07 with aptitude?
[01:14] <QMario> Bye Seveas, ompaul, and the rest!!! :)
[01:14] <ompaul> QMario, good luck
[01:14] <Seveas> Pjkit, -> topic
[01:14] <QMario> Thank you, ompaul! ;)
[01:14] <Mirussa> tristanmike: yay! that worked.. thank you very much.. great work! :)
[01:14] <vbgunz> on Breezy, 1.07 works pretty good but believe I found a bug... If you right click an image on the web with firefox and select "set as desktop wallpaper" firefox will eventually close itself out
[01:15] <vbgunz> try it out, see if my bug is true
[01:15] <skel_> wow thanks Seveas
[01:15] <indypende> Seveas, my scanner is here /proc/bus/usb/001/003
[01:15] <tristanmike> Mirussa, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too
[01:15] <indypende> i'm sure
[01:15] <esac> does anybody know the email address to mail the hardware list to (something like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[01:15] <indypende> Seveas, i'm sure
[01:15] <tristanmike> Mirussa, and no problem just spreading the help I received here, it's the least I can to
[01:16] <indypende> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2471
[01:16] <tristanmike> *do
[01:17] <Lars_G> Damn how many people are using backports?
[01:17] <Mirussa> tristanmike: so that's what is meant by the backport topic?
[01:17] <vbgunz> does anyone know how to close a window in a certain position and a certain size and when opening the application again, it shows up the way it closes? The way you wish to see it? Currently, it seems all apps show up as default... this is very annoying... any help or tips appreciated!
[01:17] <blekos> it is just not my day
[01:18] <blekos> tried to start in failsafe to remove the damn program and install kubuntu but no lack
[01:18] <nalioth> blekos: what are you wanting to do?
[01:18] <tristanmike> Mirussa, I think, if I'm right, the backports are packages that are created by "we" the user so that they work with Ubuntu, but they are not offical, nor offically tested, and hence, may contain errors, I think don't quote me
[01:18] <blekos> i installed easyubuntu in order to have the codecs loaded
[01:19] <apokryphos> tristanmike: backports used to be third-party, but now there's official backports
[01:19] <blekos> but instead it has removed the whole kde package and now
[01:19] <Pjkit> AYUDA !!! Desempaquetando el reemplazo de mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ...
[01:19] <Pjkit> dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:19] <Pjkit>  intentando sobreescribir `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', que est tambin en el paquete firefox-gnome-support
[01:19] <Pjkit> dpkg-deb: el subproceso paste fue terminado por la seal (Tubera rota)
[01:19] <Pjkit> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[01:19] <Pjkit>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[01:19] <Pjkit>  /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[01:19] <blekos> i cannot re-inst. it
[01:19] <Pjkit> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:19] <Pjkit> Argghh! Algo malo pas mientras se instalaban los paquetes. Intentado recuperar:
[01:19] <Mirussa> tristanmike: ah, I see
[01:19] <Seveas> damn, i'm gone for 3 seconds and some fool starts pasting
[01:19] <tristanmike> apokryphos, and those I should use instead of the ones on ubuntuguide?
[01:19] <nalioth> wow a spanish flood
[01:20] <tristanmike> Mirussa, read apokryphos's comment above
[01:20] <apokryphos> tristanmike: you shouldn't use ubuntuguide, really, at all
[01:20] <Hoxzer> I hate the weather here in finland :(((
[01:20] <nalioth> tristanmike: didn't i warn you about ubuntuguide earlier?
[01:20] <blekos> any ideas malioth?
[01:20] <Hoxzer> it really sucks
[01:20] <Mirussa> apokryphos: we shouldn't? thats where I got mine.. where does one find the proper backports?
[01:20] <Versed> why?
[01:20] <Seveas> Hoxzer, try texas...
[01:20] <Versed> rain?
[01:20] <Hoxzer> :E
[01:20] <Versed> haha
[01:20] <Hoxzer> :D
[01:20] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I know, but when I first installed Ubuntu in June, I was afraid of IRC casue I heard bad things about it, and that was the advice I got on the forums
[01:20] <nalioth> blekos: what is easybuntu?
[01:21] <tristanmike> nalioth, lol
[01:21] <Seveas> nalioth, a crap script from the forum fools...
[01:21] <arkanes> Seveas: I'm in baton rouge and my family is in houston :/
[01:21] <nalioth> afraid of IRC?
[01:21] <blekos> easy ubuntu is a script
[01:21] <apokryphos> nalioth: almost as bad as simpleKDE
[01:21] <nalioth> oh no not the forum fools
[01:21] <indypende> Seveas, have you see my paste?
[01:21] <bipolar> can anyone point me to where I can get w32codecs for breezy?
[01:21] <Seveas> arkanes, ouch :| good luck the next days dude
[01:21] <blekos> seveas put it right
[01:21] <nalioth> arkanes: quit whining. i'm sittin in pasadena, tx right now
[01:21] <apokryphos> tristanmike: hahaha, are you serious?
[01:21] <dooglus> apokryphos: bash auto_completion will be on by defaut in warty apparently.
[01:21] <tristanmike> nalioth, you're the cause behind all this trouble aren't you...shame shame
[01:21] <Seveas> bipolar, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:21] <mrchicago> anyone use gambas any
[01:21] <tristanmike> apokryphos, yeah, by the mods there
[01:21] <arkanes> Seveas: thanks
[01:21] <apokryphos> dooglus: warty is older version
[01:21] <apokryphos> tristanmike: that's hilarious
[01:21] <blekos> is there any chance to restore some of the original settings?
[01:22] <apokryphos> Seveas: did you hear that? ;-)
[01:22] <dooglus> apokryphos: grumpy then?
[01:22] <nalioth> blekos: what have you tried?
[01:22] <dooglus> I get them mixed up...
[01:22] <blekos> i tried with synaptic
[01:22] <blekos> but cannot get all dependecies work...
[01:22] <apokryphos> dooglus: dapper is the version after breezy
[01:22] <blekos> i have chosen all repositories
[01:23] <dooglus> apokryphos: grumpy is the ongoing development version - grumpy groundhog
[01:23] <nalioth> blekos: are you using official repositories?
[01:23] <apokryphos> tristanmike: considering the majority of the developers (and certainly all the big ones) use IRC...
[01:23] <felipe_> Hello anyone knows which is the default password for the root user? I can't log in...
[01:23] <bipolar> Seveas, thanks!
[01:23] <apokryphos> dooglus: thanks, I know :)
[01:23] <nalioth> !tell felipe_ about root
[01:23] <blekos> yes
[01:24] <nalioth> blekos: remove kde-base
[01:24] <dooglus> apokryphos: ok.  you were asking about bash's completion.  i was trying to tell you.  it'll be turned on once breezy is out
[01:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, here is my first post after posting about installing ubuntu, i had trouble there too *blush* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41806 this is where the problem started I guess
[01:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I know, but still, FUD has a large impact on people, you know
[01:24] <misfit_toy> so Seveas are you a DEV?
[01:24] <blekos> kdebase is not installed...
[01:25] <apokryphos> blekos: what's the problem?
[01:25] <misfit_toy> Seveas, great fix that udev thing, now, do I *not* do another upgrade? 'cause I see x-common sitting out there again...
[01:25] <pdb> imgetting an error when starting up about hardrive sectors containg errors help!!
[01:25] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:25] <blekos>  Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[01:25] <blekos> that is the problem
[01:25] <apokryphos> blekos: hoary?
[01:25] <mrchicago> hey i made a program to brighten amonitor in gambas how do i get it on sourceforge
[01:25] <blekos> nop
[01:26] <blekos> 5.10
[01:26] <apokryphos> blekos: did you have kubuntu-desktop installed before you did a dist-upgrade?
[01:26] <nalioth> blekos: is it kdebase or kde-base? just WHAT kde stuff do you have installed?
[01:26] <apokryphos> nalioth: kdebase is the package name
[01:26] <blekos> k3b, quanta & kontact
[01:26] <blekos> i had gnome
[01:26] <funkyHat> i've just followed the drop shadows tutorial in the ubuntu wiki, and certain options for xcompmgr are causing X to crash... has anyone else had something similar happen?
[01:26] <blekos> i installed kde
[01:26] <nalioth> blekos: get rid of all kde stuff
[01:27] <blekos> everything worked fine
[01:27] <funkyHat> and managed to get it fixed{
[01:27] <apokryphos> blekos: you didn't answer my question :)
[01:27] <funkyHat> *?
[01:27] <nalioth> blekos: actually, if you could do in reverse what got you into this mess
[01:27] <blekos> could not hear mp3 or play divx
[01:27] <blekos> and the script was suppoesed to install everything :((
[01:28] <apokryphos> you're being pretty cryptic here
[01:28] <blekos> i'll try to remove everything kde...
[01:28] <apokryphos> blekos: you should install kde by getting kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <apokryphos> and when you upgrade to breezy, you should always have a buntu-desktop installed
[01:28] <_jason> hi
[01:28] <blekos> that's what I'm trying to do but :
[01:29] <blekos> kubuntu-desktop:
[01:29] <blekos>  Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <apokryphos> blekos: obviously before you didn't try installing kubuntu-desktop first
[01:29] <mrchicago> shiat
[01:29] <blekos> as u can see i cannot go any further since dependencies r not satisfied
[01:29] <ericz> when does breezy like officially come out or is there no date, just "sometime in october or november"
[01:29] <ericz> ?
[01:29] <DaaJeH> Hello
[01:29] <blekos> i have tried...
[01:29] <funkyHat> ericz, 13th of october
[01:29] <tristanmike> ericz, oct 13
[01:29] <apokryphos> blekos: that problem came about because you upgraded incorrectly, presumable
[01:29] <opteek> how can i change the profile firefox is using??
[01:29] <ericz> oh alright
[01:29] <blekos> i had it all perfect b4 the bloody script
[01:29] <_jason> I need some help installing java.  The forums have several different answers.  What do you recommend?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> rc comes out on oct 3 and final on oct 13
[01:30] <apokryphos> opteek: I think it's an option from firefox --help
[01:30] <dooglus> firefox -P
[01:30] <nalioth> _jason: hoary or breezy?
[01:30] <apokryphos> blekos: what script?
[01:30] <_jason> hoary
[01:30] <dooglus> (capital P)
[01:30] <ericz> will shipit send out breezy cd's?
[01:30] <blekos> easyubuntu
[01:30] <apokryphos> ergh
[01:30] <boxerboy29> yes when the final comes out
[01:30] <nalioth> ericz: when they are available, yes
[01:30] <felipe_> where can I get the w32codecs? the apt-get is not finding them
[01:30] <ericz> alright, thanks
[01:30] <boxerboy29> yw
[01:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell felipe_ about w32codecs
[01:30] <bystander> !w32codecs
[01:30] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:30] <DaaJeH> I get this msg when trying to install libpng-dev
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Reading Package Lists... Done
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[01:31] <DaaJeH> Package libpng-dev is a virtual package provided by:
[01:31] <DaaJeH>   libpng12-dev <IP_ADDRESS>-7ubuntu1
[01:31] <DaaJeH> You should explicitly select one to install.
[01:31] <DaaJeH> E: Package libpng-dev has no installation candidate
[01:31] <apokryphos> Seveas: damn you, beat me this time 8)
[01:31] <tristanmike> felipe_, or you could look here too
[01:31] <tristanmike> felipe_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:31] <leopard> has that xfonts problem been fixed?
[01:32] <Seveas> leopard, no
[01:32] <leopard> :-)
[01:32] <indypende> Seveas, you leave me lone?
[01:32] <misfit_toy>  I was reading somewhere in the ubuntu forums that someone had an "art-manager" app after installing breezy, I don't see this, does anyone else?
[01:32] <misfit_toy> misfit_toy for theming, etc...
[01:32] <boxerboy29> i found out with all the repos you can get java plug in from synaptic
[01:32] <cormorano> hi
[01:32] <Seveas> indypende, sorry, was busy with 7 other things :)
[01:33] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: well, with a different one, yes.
[01:33] <indypende> Seveas, ok
[01:33] <puff> ./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:33] <indypende> Seveas, sorry
[01:33] <puff> Hm.
[01:33] <Seveas> incubii, but no idea what's going on there, I don't see a scanner device
[01:33] <blekos> i think i removed every k*
[01:33] <blekos> and now nalioth?
[01:33] <sockpuppe1> whats with firefox?
[01:34] <red_blood> hello people! do you know a nice flight simulator for ubuntu?
[01:34] <mrchicago> flightgear
[01:34] <Seveas> puff libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[01:34] <mrchicago> and that rescue copter game
[01:34] <_jason> boxerboy29, do you know which repo had it?
[01:34] <mrchicago> works great on my laptop
[01:34] <boxerboy29> i have all enabled
[01:34] <bipolar> Seveas, can I get an account for your repo?
[01:34] <incubii> ill assume you werent actually talking to me :P
[01:34] <blekos> damn it no luck again...
[01:35] <blekos> it really get on my nerves
[01:35] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell boxerboy29 abotu sunjava
[01:35] <boxerboy29> multiuniverse included
[01:35] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: it's not in any of the Ubuntu-provided ones
[01:35] <dale> newbee - I am getting the following error when updating  xcommon--- E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base...can someone help
[01:35] <Seveas> apokryphos, note that he wants to use j2ee which is not supported by any of the option on the wiki/repos :)
[01:35] <Seveas> dale, known bug, just wait...
[01:35] <sockpuppe1> apokryphos whats wrong with the repo for firefox
[01:35] <apokryphos> oh
[01:35] <puff> Seveas: I only have libstdc++.so.5 and libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[01:35] <boxerboy29> than im guessing it comes with the multis?
[01:36] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: what version of ubuntu and what firefox?
[01:36] <WebLOCH> hey Seveas
[01:36] <Seveas> puff, then install the other version too
[01:36] <sockpuppe1> hoary/1.0.7
[01:36] <Seveas> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[01:36] <mrchicago> man tuxkart isnt running all that well
[01:36] <blekos> can u pls tell me how i can see my start up file?
[01:36] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, get rid of backports crud
[01:36] <blekos> maybe there is smg there running...
[01:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: erm, nope, he just wants the java plugin I presume
[01:36] <sophie_> blekos: boot.log
[01:36] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, firefox wont start?
[01:36] <whyameye> any tips on installing the Java Virtual Machine under Wine with IE?
[01:36] <sockpuppe1> nope
[01:36] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: what is it you're looking for? Just the java plugin (for your browser etc)? j2re?
[01:36] <blekos> hmm
[01:37] <blekos> and how xctly i do that?
[01:37] <Seveas> whyameye, you atually got IE to work with wine?
[01:37] <WebLOCH> Seveas, I did
[01:37] <blekos> sorry newb round here ;)
[01:37] <blekos> :_
[01:37] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: nope?
[01:37] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, I'll tell you how to fix
[01:37] <boxerboy29> i have j2re already i didnt know getting it from synaptic was bad
[01:37] <apokryphos> boxerboy29: it's not
[01:37] <sockpuppe1> cool thing tristanmikw
[01:37] <Seveas> WebLOCH, neat, how :)
[01:37] <dale> Seveas --- thx...soon to be fixed???
[01:37] <whyameye> Seveas, yep. I run a script for it. It works great. I could try to remember where I got the script if it helps you.
[01:37] <Seveas> dale, hopefully
[01:37] <apokryphos> sockpuppe1: remove the backports repository, remove firefox, then refresh your list and get firefox
[01:37] <viclinux> join gnomehispano
[01:37] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, , try this, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and comment out the two backport address by using "#" save and then "sudo apt-get update"
[01:38] <joh> can anyone tell me what's happening with the nvidia drivers in linux-restricted-modules?
[01:38] <Seveas> whyameye, it would help, I develop a lot of web pages which should be somewhat usable in IE too
[01:38] <WebLOCH> Seveas, all i had to do was install wine, then install IE, I found a couple of ways of doing it, "wine-tools-sidenet" i think was the esiest way of doing it
[01:38] <dale> Seveas...where r u
[01:38] <nalioth> blekos: are you being sorted?
[01:38] <blekos> sorry???
[01:38] <whyameye> Seveas: let me look around and see if I can recall the steps. I'll let you know either way.
[01:38] <_jason> If I just want the JRE without the SDK where can I find it?
[01:38] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, wait, do me a favor
[01:38] <Zodiac> Hey guys, anybody figure out how to get their processor applet working at full speed with the latest breezy updates yet?
[01:38] <nalioth> blekos: are you making progress?
[01:38] <WebLOCH> Seveas,  it was wine-config-sidnet sorry
[01:39] <blekos> nop :((
[01:39] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell _jason about sunjava
[01:39] <Seveas> WebLOCH, ah, I tried to run IE from my ntfs disk where winxp is rotting :)
[01:39] <WebLOCH> Seveas, - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[01:39] <indypende> Seveas, look at this thread http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=86334
[01:39] <Lars_G> Zodiac: processor applet?
[01:39] <blekos> i doubt if i'll make any sense
[01:39] <WebLOCH> Seveas, I havent tried that yet
[01:39] <Mirussa> its amazing how many people are having the same problems with firefox
[01:39] <indypende> Seveas, don't work for me but seem to be the answer for someone.
[01:39] <puff> Hm, never had a glibc dependency with the jdk before.  I wonder if I really want to install this one, or maybe I should install j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin instead.
[01:40] <apokryphos> Mirussa: it's generally down to evil backports
[01:40] <Zodiac> actually, my entire processor seems stuck at 500 mhz
[01:40] <nalioth> blekos: did you remove aall the kde apps?
[01:40] <WebLOCH> Seveas, but it expects a windows drive to be set up with primary paths and all that so it would expect "C:\program files\IE\" to be its home dir, not "Windata\Program files\IE"
[01:40] <sockpuppe1> now what tristanmike
[01:40] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, open synaptic and search for firefox and tell me how many packages are installed
[01:40] <indypende> Seveas, it can be only a permission trouble!
[01:40] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike now what
[01:40] <blekos> believe yes
[01:40] <apokryphos> puff: you can just use the .debs
[01:41] <Zodiac> Anybody know what the hell I am talking about?
[01:41] <sockpuppe1> 3 packages
[01:41] <mrchicago> uh
[01:41] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, ok,
[01:41] <mrchicago> there isnt a program that bightend the monitor
[01:41] <blekos> i try to remove easyubuntu but it will not let me do so
[01:41] <bonee> fluxbox
[01:41] <dale> looks like your busy Seveas...thx for the heads up...
[01:42] <_jason> apokryphos, I added the repo but synaptic complains with an error message
[01:42] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, , then "sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:42] <Zodiac> blekos: are you talking about the new breezy updates??
[01:42] <apokryphos> blekos: can you pastebin this script?
[01:42] <WebLOCH> Seveas, do you remember who helped me with my audio problems yesterday?
[01:42] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, those are the packs I assume...
[01:42] <blekos> i'll try...
[01:42] <apokryphos> _jason: can you pastebin it?
[01:42] <p_jnco> hey kids, does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file
[01:42] <boxerboy29> zodiac i have a 450mhz processer and i have no problems with updates whats wrong with running at 500?
[01:42] <p_jnco> 75 aint workin and i want it to run at 70
[01:42] <p_jnco> only
[01:42] <_jason> apokryphos, i don't know what pastebin means sry im a noob
[01:42] <p_jnco> ?
[01:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell _jason about pastebin
[01:42] <Zodiac> boxboy29: umm nothing, unless you have a 1.6 ghz processor
[01:43] <whyameye> Seveas: okay. Go to this site: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html. Also, you have to install a newer version of Wine than what is in the Hoary repo. I have version 20050725.
[01:43] <tristanmike> Mirussa, yeah, well, I guess the update broke it for everybody
[01:43] <nalioth> _jason: type /topic
[01:43] <p_jnco> does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?
[01:43] <Zodiac> The new update sucked
[01:43] <p_jnco> i know how to edit it
[01:43] <p_jnco> im just not sure what settings to change
[01:43] <whyameye> Seveas: if I recall correctly, this sript wipes whatever you have setup already in Wine. Not sure if this can be avoided.
[01:43] <indypende> Seveas, i've solved
[01:43] <funkyHat> anyone got composite working on the latest breezy?
[01:43] <indypende> SEve:)
[01:44] <indypende> Seveas, :)
[01:44] <indypende> Seveas, :)
[01:44] <boxerboy29> zodiac: you will find bugs with breezy its still in testing
[01:44] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, how you coming along there?
[01:44] <Mirussa> tristanmike: thanks again for your help.. I have to dash.. take care.
[01:44] <Zodiac> boxerboy29: yea I got that, thanks for your help... I was wondering though if anyone had a fix for this bug
[01:44] <blekos> it has *.deb xtension
[01:44] <whyameye> Seveas: one more tip. Install the windows fonts.
[01:45] <_n00blar_> Is anyone having problems updating the x-common update package?
[01:45] <tristanmike> Mirussa, no prob, anytime
[01:45] <Zodiac> _n00blar_: There are threads all over the forums about that
[01:45] <Zodiac> check there
[01:45] <_jason> apokryphos, here is my error message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2472
[01:45] <Seveas> Zodiac, forums won't help
[01:45] <Seveas> it's a bug that's being solved
[01:46] <Zodiac> well it will help for the font one
[01:46] <_rb_> heyas. I want to copy a website and make it available offline. I then want to be able to chuck the thing on a laptop so i can use it on sites that i need the information. I dont want to use httrack, it dont work properly. Anyone know of a good fast one thats free i can use in ubuntu ?
[01:46] <sockpuppe1> ytistanmike it isnt working
[01:46] <Zodiac> but not the other bigger one
[01:46] <Seveas> Zodiac, READ, that was not his issue
[01:46] <Seveas> and solutions from the forums ime generally suck
[01:46] <p_jnco> does anyone know how to default a refresh rate in my xorg.conf file?
[01:46] <Seveas> _rb_, wget --mirror
[01:46] <Zodiac> Ummm are you talking about nooblar?
[01:46] <apokryphos> _jason: hm, one sec.
[01:46] <_jason> apokryphos, take your time
[01:47] <Zodiac> The X font issue isnt the proccessor issue
[01:47] <_rb_> coo. ta Seveas
[01:47] <Zodiac> and there is a fix for it
[01:47] <SpokeyDokey> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with the Weather Report panel program, it never updates, and I know another person who's having the same problem. Is this a problem with the program or the Weather Report server?
[01:47] <sockpuppe1> tristan i figured it out
[01:47] <Seveas> Zodiac, no it's the x-common issue from today and there is not yet a fix for it
[01:47] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, you commented out the backports?
[01:47] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, what was it?
[01:47] <cesarin> ok ladies and gentlemen, I destroyed my 64 bit version and came with the 32 bits version
[01:47] <cesarin> screw buggy java & flash :P
[01:48] <bonee> what is the site for all the repositories
[01:48] <Seveas> !tell bonee about sources
[01:48] <cesarin> !tell bonee repositories
[01:48] <SpokeyDokey> !tell bonee repositories
[01:48] <cesarin> lp
[01:49] <cesarin> argh, clicked wrong window lol
[01:49] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, how did you fix it...?
[01:49] <GrannyTux> i gave up on 64 bit too
[01:49] <spackest> so, I might be wrong, but /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf sure doesn't seem to get honored in 5.04 for postgresql
[01:49] <spackest> anyone here build that?
[01:49] <apokryphos> _jason: you didn't run apt-get update first?
[01:49] <GrannyTux> waiting for java and flash to work right
[01:49] <Ravi`s> have cd ubuntu
[01:49] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike its still toasted man
[01:49] <_jason> apokryphos, no
[01:49] <p_jnco> nevermind got it
[01:50] <_jason> apokryphos, do i have to?
[01:50] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, what's happening, or not happening?
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: everytime you change your sources.list you have to, yes.
[01:50] <sockpuppe1> it doesnt start at all
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: so it can refresh the package list, basically.
[01:50] <Earthen> how do i tell what version of xfree86 im running
[01:50] <_jason> apokryphos, ok so just sudo apt-get update?
[01:50] <apokryphos> Earthen: unless you're on warty, you're running xorg
[01:50] <apokryphos> _jason: yup
[01:50] <spackest> just trying to get tcpip_socket honored and it isn't working
[01:51] <spackest> driving me nuts
[01:51] <Earthen> I'm on horey
[01:51] <cesarin> Btw, Im running in i386 mode, anyone knows what is the best core for my AMD athlon 64 3000+ ?
[01:51] <Earthen> OK I want to know what ATI driver to down load
[01:51] <apokryphos> Earthen: then you have Xorg
[01:51] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Earthen about ati
[01:51] <Earthen> apokryphos, ok thank you
[01:52] <nalioth> cesarin: 686
[01:52] <cesarin> nalioth: good to see you here again :>
[01:52] <apsync> hi, there was a tool that allowed me to access/read files in my ntfs partition/hd, what was that tool name/url again?
[01:52] <nalioth> cesarin: only for a few
[01:52] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, check synaptic for firefox again and see what's there
[01:52] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell apsync about windowsdrives
[01:52] <cesarin> nalioth, I destroyed my 64 bit version since it was a pain in the ass to install java & other platforms, so Im now on i386, can you tell me how to switch to i686?
[01:52] <_jason> apokryphos: now I want sun-j2re1.5 correct? and after I do this should I comment this repo out?
[01:52] <cesarin> *lol*
[01:53] <nalioth> cesarin: in synaptic, choose the 686 kernel
[01:53] <Seveas> cesarin, apt-get install linux-686
[01:53] <Seveas> and reboot
[01:53] <cesarin> ok thanks
[01:53] <apokryphos> _jason: not vital to comment it out, but if you only want the j2re then it shouldn't really matter, yeah.
[01:53] <Ravi`s> was that have cd ubuntu
[01:53] <Ravi`s> i need cd ubuntu
[01:53] <Ravi`s> please
[01:53] <cesarin> nalioth,  Seveas : thanks!, but for now, to install all the patches first
[01:53] <cesarin> ^-^
[01:53] <spackest> guess I am trying to say that the postgres that ships with 5.04 for athlon 64 is busted
[01:54] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, oh, I might have missed something, sorry, open up System Monitor, and end the firefox process
[01:54] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO?
[01:55] <cesarin> apokryphos, : he seem to be using a translator
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> killed the process
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> now reinstall
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> ?
 Ravi`s: erm, what? You want the Ubuntu ISO? <-- no i need cd ubuntu for canada
[01:55] <Ravi`s> i from indonesia
[01:55] <felipe_> Something really weird just happened, I cant open web pages and I when I try to ping any site I get ping: unknown host www.blabla.com
[01:55] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, search synaptic again for firefox and tell me how many you have now?
[01:55] <cesarin> ISO = image from a CD, so you burn it
[01:55] <sockpuppe1> tristanmike nothing
[01:56] <Ravi`s> i need original
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> i removed it all
[01:56] <Ravi`s> man
[01:56] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, nothing?
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> i removed it
[01:56] <apokryphos> cesarin: they have *really* bad national connections in Indonesia; probably doesn't want the ISO.
[01:56] <sockpuppe1> so i must reinstall yes?
[01:56] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:56] <apokryphos> *international
[01:56] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you still about ?
[01:56] <Seveas> no
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Seveas, damn you, get back here.
[01:57] <Ravi`s> i have iso
[01:57] <Seveas> I'm going to bed :)
[01:57] <cesarin> apokryphos, : ic :/
[01:57] <spackest> and /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf too
[01:57] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: from the above link, you can order CDs
[01:57] <Ravi`s> i have ubuntu iso
[01:57] <cesarin> Seveas,  have a good time there man
[01:57] <cesarin> Seveas,  dont forget to clean it :P
[01:57] <apokryphos> Ravi`s: excellent!
[01:57] <spackest> anyone care about postgres? :)
[01:57] <tristanmike> Seveas, sweet dreams
[01:57] <hd420> yep
[01:57] <WebLOCH> Seveas, before you go, do you remember who helped me get my audio working last time?
[01:57] <Ravi`s> and no cd riginal
[01:57] <apokryphos> ?
[01:57] <apokryphos> 'night Seveas
[01:57] <Seveas> WebLOCH, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:58] <WebLOCH> ahhhhhh
[01:58] <cesarin> Ravi`s, : try http://babelfish.altavista.com
[01:58] <_jason> apokryphos: works great... thank you.
[01:58] <apokryphos> cool
[01:58] <WebLOCH> awesome
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> hey tristanmike I got it
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> !
[01:58] <ubotu> No idea, sockpuppe1
[01:58] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, nice
[01:58] <sockpuppe1> and I have the latest opera installed
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, you can also "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb" if you want too
[01:59] <WebLOCH> Seveas, sleep well and thanks
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> tristan im not british
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> lol
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, neither am I
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> lol
[01:59] <tristanmike> sockpuppe1, but it was installed before, I did, just to keep things the same
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> out of uriosity, which is more secure firefox or opera
[01:59] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:59] <spackest> good old /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf is the only conf I see in my strace of /etc/init.d/postgresql startup
[02:00] <sockpuppe1> i dont wanna start a flame war
[02:00] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: go to #ubuntu-offtopic and flame away
[02:00] <cesarin> nalioth,  btw, by any chance you remember the wiki url for activating the an intellimouse explorer v.3 on X11 ?
[02:00] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:00] <Xenguy> FF is free; that's what really counts IMHO
[02:00] <Ravi`s> www.padepokanlinux.cjb.net  <--- i like distribution distro linux
[02:01] <nalioth> cesarin: search the wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:01] <cesarin> will do, thanks
[02:01] <Ravi`s> and colection distro Linux
[02:01] <sockpuppe1> nalioth im not starting a flame war
[02:01] <ol> how can i verify my burned CD in windows?
[02:01] <alexandros> could someone help me when I tried to upgrade to firefox 1.0.7 it failed and broke my current firefox installation
[02:01] <sockpuppe1> i just want a simple answer
[02:01] <apokryphos> alexandros: comment out the backports in your sources.list, remove the firefox, and then reinstall
[02:02] <jroes> sockpuppe1: I think it would depend a lot on what you consider "secure"
[02:02] <jroes> sockpuppe1: most people in ubuntu world would probably tend to favor Firefox, though, considering it's open source
[02:02] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: neither
[02:02] <sockpuppe1> thankis nalioth
[02:02] <sockpuppe1> and thanks jroes
[02:03] <sockpuppe1> thanks for the help folks
[02:03] <jroes> sockpuppe1: a lot of evidence suggests that security through obscurity does not work as well as open source does, which would declare Firefox the winner
[02:03] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks, is there something wrong with the version of firefox?
[02:03] <jroes> np
[02:03] <apokryphos> alexandros: the one in the backports, yes; it's often broken.
[02:03] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks again
[02:04] <apokryphos> np
[02:04] <Ravi`s> :)
[02:04] <Pluk> if youre not affraid is this:
[02:04] <Pluk> cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:04] <Pluk> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[02:04] <Pluk> is=use*
[02:04] <blekos> MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLS
[02:04] <nalioth> blekos: please
[02:04] <_jason> ok so that guy just had a problem with firefox 1.07... I just got prompted to update to 1.07, should I?
[02:04] <Dromedaris> Anyone succesfull runs nicotine?
[02:04] <blekos> the lucky number of the lottery will be 7,8,12,34,56
[02:04] <Xenguy> blekos: not if you keep that up
[02:04] <apokryphos> blekos: no shouting
[02:04] <tristanmike> alexandros, I will, been doing it all night, might as well not stop now
[02:04] <blekos> i do not know what i did
[02:05] <blekos> but it worked
[02:05] <Pluk> but --force-overwrite i not a thing you should use lightly
[02:05] <apokryphos> blekos: #ubuntu-offtopic for unrelated discussion
[02:05] <blekos> sorry for shouting
[02:05] <Dromedaris> Anyone succesfull runs nicotine?
[02:05] <nalioth> blekos: keep the caps to a grammatically correct usage
[02:05] <Xenguy> blekos: no, now many of us will /ignore you :P
[02:05] <blekos> i just wanted to share my excitement
[02:05] <blekos> :)
[02:05] <bonee> what happen to w32codecs
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu tell Dromedaris about repeat
[02:05] <Xorlev_> My dependencies are all messed up, and updating them doesn't seem to help. Any advice?
[02:05] <blekos> pls pass the word not to use easyubuntu
[02:05] <bipolar> the confilict in breezy between xfonts-base and x-common is a known problem, right?
[02:05] <bonee> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:05] <bonee> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:05] <bonee> is only available from another source
[02:05] <bonee> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:05] <jroes> bonee: you're running amd64?
[02:06] <blekos> if someone else has the same problem what i did is
[02:06] <bonee> no
[02:06] <tristanmike> ubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs
[02:06] <blekos> remove all kde things...
[02:06] <nalioth> bonee: no pasting please, read the /topic
[02:06] <jroes> oh, then you just don't have all the sources
[02:06] <blekos> uninstall and install easyubuntu
[02:06] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:06] <nalioth> blekos: so you are on your way installing kubuntu-desktop now?
[02:06] <whyameye> Seveas: did you get my earlier messages about IE6 under Wine? BTW, it turns out that the Java runtime installs fine under Wine with a manual install...
[02:06] <rubem> hi there!
[02:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell bonee about w32codecs
[02:06] <rubem> hi Seveas
[02:06] <nalioth> blekos: throw the easybuntu out the window
[02:06] <blekos> go to repositories and remove all irrelavant links and left the ones for my version
[02:07] <blekos> and then install kde...
[02:07] <rubem> how do i install the mp3 codecs in ubuntu?
[02:07] <blekos> right away sir...
[02:07] <cesarin> Damn, cant find  any page in wiki about how to set the deadkeys or disabling them for the keyboard configuration
[02:07] <nalioth> blekos: kubuntu-desktop
[02:07] <blekos> it's gone...
[02:07] <nalioth> !tell rubem about restricted
[02:07] <tristanmike> ubotu: tell rubem about w32codecs
[02:07] <esac> still having random freezes on my breezy install
[02:07] <jroes> esac: I have a few random freezes myself, actually
[02:08] <jroes> esac: in hoary though
[02:08] <cesarin> nalioth, btw, I found interesting that Breezy 32 bits did detect my videocard and monitor out of the box
[02:08] <cesarin> but the 64 version didnt
[02:08] <jroes> anyone freeze when just doing something random like scrolling in firefox and clicking at the same time?
[02:08] <blekos> thank u gues for putting up with me...
[02:08] <apsync> what is the command to edit sound options?
[02:08] <Xorlev_> Also, with the X upgrade from repos, do they work okay?
[02:08] <blekos> do u have any suggestions for firewall?
[02:08] <apokryphos> blekos: yes, no need to consider one.
[02:08] <jorgp3> firestarter is a good firewall
[02:09] <blekos> hahah
[02:09] <blekos> lol
[02:09] <blekos> that's y i like linux
[02:09] <Xorlev_> blekos: Use iptables. Firestarter is a nice GUI frontend though
[02:09] <Xorlev_> iptables comes standard.
[02:09] <blekos> damn, it's 3 in the morning here...
[02:09] <Chii_Chan> Can I get some help? >.<  Ive managed to get ndiswrapper to allow my computer to detect the lan card.  It can also detect networks... but past then I am unable to actively use my lancard >.<
[02:10] <cesarin> Xorlev, : is Breezy vulnerable to internet atacks as for now?
[02:10] <nalioth> blekos: ubuntu (and most linux distros) have no need for 'firewalls', being open source, theres nothing calling the maker
[02:10] <blekos> do u use antvir?
[02:10] <Ravi`s> help download bootable for ubuntu
[02:10] <bonee> apokryphos: how do i install it
[02:10] <nalioth> cesarin: it is not
[02:10] <nalioth> blekos: no viruses known for linux
[02:10] <apokryphos> blekos: antivirus for what exactly?
[02:10] <cesarin> Ravi`s, : go to www.ubuntu.com and click on "DOWNLOAD"
[02:10] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell blekos about linuxvirus
[02:11] <apokryphos> hm, now what was that factoid..
[02:11] <Gobbla> there are viruses for linux too :)
[02:11] <Ravi`s> tx friend
[02:11] <alexandros> hey, if I try to remove firefox it tries to take ubuntu deskttop with it
[02:11] <blekos> sorry guys to interupt did u get a message for new kernel install??
[02:11] <cesarin> alexandros,  isnt it cute? very strong love & stuff :P
[02:11] <nalioth> blekos: the only reason a linux user would want to run an antivirus is to scan any files he wanted to send his windows-using-grandmother
[02:11] <nalioth> alexandros: that is fine
[02:11] <blekos> lol
[02:11] <blekos> :))
[02:11] <blekos> yes i know the % of viruses... etc
[02:12] <apokryphos> ubotu: linuxvirus is <reply> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:12] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:12] <blekos> just never used to run without any... :)
[02:12] <Pluk> ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage.. i container thats lists all kinda packages thats needed to install the whole ubuntu thingy
[02:12] <cesarin> btw, anyone here knows the keys to add to xorg.conf , for adding "deadkeys" option for the keyboard?
[02:12] <Pluk> if you remove the container you wont loose all you programs
[02:12] <apsync> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[02:13] <apokryphos> apsync: you can /msg too :)
[02:13] <apsync> oh ok :)
[02:13] <Chii_Chan> Anyone here know much about ndiswrapper?
[02:13] <jrattner1> How do i enable my SSH server
[02:14] <apsync> how can I get an account at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[02:14] <Xorlev> Question: Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.
[02:14] !lilo:*! I'm heading out... power keeps going off and on and I want to save power for the phone
[02:14] <apokryphos> apsync: he's asleep now, so his server is probably down
[02:14] !lilo:*! Wish me lock.
[02:14] <apokryphos> apsync: but, go here: giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:14] !lilo:*! Erm, luck :)
[02:14] <apsync> ah
[02:14] <puff> Hm, my machine has started swapping like crazy.
[02:14] <alexandros> blekos: firestarter is easy to usse
[02:15] <puff> Wonde rwhat's sucking up all the ram.
[02:15] <blekos> i just installed it
[02:15] <bonee> ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[02:15] <apokryphos> bonee: you can /msg ubotu {factoid} too =)
[02:15] <apsync> bonee, you can msg too :D
[02:15] <apsync> :P
[02:15] <nalioth> jrattner1: install "openssh-server"
[02:15] <blekos> btw where can i have some instr. on installing the codecs for mp3 divx etc?
[02:16] <Xorlev> !tell blekos about w32codecs
[02:16] <apokryphos> !tell blekos about mp3
[02:16] <Xorlev> Question(again): Recently I've been getting dependency problems on all sorts of things...any way to fix these? Such as for libqt3-dev: Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed.
[02:17] <apokryphos> Xorlev: are you on breezy?
[02:17] <blekos> is there any background (short of wallpaper) that can show earth moving?
[02:18] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Hoary.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: it's often good to get to the source of the problem; i.e. check libxft-dev and keep going
[02:18] <blekos> not a screen saver, something like active desktop
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: any other information? When did the problems start?
[02:18] <Xorlev> apokryphos: I tried it last week with another package set, it just led me in circles. ie: Dependency hell.
[02:18] <Xorlev> About two weeks ago.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Xorlev: I doubt it took you in circles; it likely gets down to one
[02:19] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[02:19] <Xorlev> I'll try running down libqt3-dev and report back here.
[02:19] <picole> hi,
[02:20] <boxerboy29> ok im trying to install realplayer plug in for firefox i downloaded it and the file is executable but terminal tells me no file by that name
[02:20] <bonee> ubotu tell me about install
[02:20] <Xorlev> Ahh...thus the crux of the problem. Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed.
[02:20] <poningru> !install
[02:20] <ubotu> well, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:21] <WebLOCH> !tell WebLOCH about alsa-source
[02:21] <bonee> ubotu tell me about tar
[02:21] <apsync> how can I install .deb files again? something like 'dkpg'
[02:21] <poningru> bonee: did you not just see the format WebLOCH used?
[02:21] <NsOmNiAc> dpkg -i
[02:21] <poningru> unless I am being an ass
[02:21] <poningru> sorry
[02:21] <picole> i have just upgrade firefox from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7,but i find that my firefox can start,anybody can help me?
[02:21] <bonee> how do i install a tar file
[02:21] <NsOmNiAc> a tar file ?
[02:22] <NsOmNiAc> you don't install a tar file
[02:22] <bonee> tar.gz
[02:22] <WebLOCH> bonee use !command to issue commands to the bot
[02:22] <NsOmNiAc> tar -zxvf decompresses it
[02:22] <Xorlev> tar -zxf file.tar.gz - Extracts a tarred and gzipped archive.
[02:22] <boxerboy29> how do you install .bin files? apt-get install dont work
[02:22] <Chii_Chan> what exactly does the -zxf part do?
[02:22] <WebLOCH> like this     !tell bonee about install
[02:22] <esac> i am trying to do a "make gconfig" for the kernel and it complains that it needs gtk+ 2.0. i installed libgtk-2.0, libglade-2.0 and libglib-2.0 .. still complains it cant find gtk+2.0 .. any idea ?
[02:23] <bonee> i'll seee if that works
[02:23] <cesarin> esac,  sometimes it works to uninstall and reinstall it
[02:23] <Pluk> esac, you prlly need libglib2.0-dev
[02:23] <cesarin> it happened with some libraries when tried to compile the NTFS drive mounter for linux
[02:23] <ebdain> Just finished installing Hoary (AMD64) onto an Athlon 64 system.  Installed fine, boots fine, shows login fine.  I put in login info, get the login noise, tan/brown screen, and then nothing.  Keyboard is frozen, mouse works, no HD activity.
[02:24] <Xorlev> apokryphos:  Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.2-1 is to be installed. It seems that 2.3.2-1 is installed, but it needs 2.2.3-4ubuntu7, and trying to force it down tries to remove bunches of packages including KDE.
[02:24] <blekos> cannot get thw w32codecs...
[02:24] <p_jnco> that sucks ebdain
[02:24] <blekos> i get a msg for being obsolete...
[02:24] <esac> Pluk: ill give it a shot
[02:24] <ebdain> Tell me about it.  Any thoughts on how to find out what's freezing it?
[02:24] <Ravi`s> how to setting ipconfig
[02:25] <apsync> where can I download gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[02:25] <cesarin> ebdain,  you sure there arent problems with the keyboard?
[02:25] <Ravi`s> help command for setting ipconfig system console
[02:25] <cesarin> ebdain: i've noticed quite a few errors in the 64 version that I didnt see in the 32 bit
[02:25] <apokryphos> Xorlev: why is 2.3 trying to be installed?   I never see the desktop.  Just the brown/tan screen that shows right after login.  The mouse still works, but I don't get any further.
[02:26] <alexandros> hey, firefox is still not loading
[02:26] <Xorlev> apokryphos: backports, extras, and kubuntu updates.
[02:26] <Pluk> esac, also libglade2-dev and libgtk2.0-dev, but i thouglt liglib2.0-dev depended on those
[02:26] <esac> ok.
[02:26] <ebdain> cesarin - this is actually my second AMD64 build up.  The first one never gave me trouble (but the hardware was on loan)
[02:26] <apokryphos> Xorlev: disable backports and try again
[02:27] <Chii_Chan> bbl >.<
[02:27] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Is there a way to force 2.2.3 without removing KDE?
[02:27] <cesarin> ebdain, : no idea, maybe some diferent hardware on it? like a extrange chipset that made the linux go "BURP" ?
[02:27] <apokryphos> Xorlev: you don't want to force, ideally; will likely break apt, if it installs
[02:27] <Xenguy> Hi - I want to run a 1-line command after every time this laptop boots.  Is /etc/init.d/skeleton the best place to start?
[02:27] <ebdain> cesarin - that's what I'm wanting to figure out.  This AMD system is completely different from the first one, but it all installed and booted fine.  Something during Gnome loading is bombing.
[02:27] <esac> pluk: thanks, installing all of those worked
[02:28] <Ravi`s> help command to console for setting ipconfig
[02:28] <ebdain> but I don't know how to find out *what* is bombing.
[02:28] <Pluk> yw esac
[02:28] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Same thing
[02:29] <cesarin> so it just bugs inside gnome?
[02:29] <alexandros> so there is no more backport extras?
[02:29] <apostolia> spera
[02:29] <ebdain> Seems like it.  I can put in the login info, so X is loading ok.  Just after that, I get the Ubuntu login music/noise and then it just stops.
[02:29] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Trying to install libqt3-mt-dev gets this: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (=3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.4-3 is to be installed. And the other one about libxft-dev.
[02:29] <nalioth> alexandros: breezy is not complete. backports depend on the current version being finalized
[02:30] <apokryphos> Xorlev: quite a pickle
[02:30] <cesarin> nalioth, : you remember what was that program to access and mount NTFS volumes in ubuntu ?
[02:30] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Indeed.
[02:30] <nalioth> !tell cesarin about ntfs
[02:30] <bonee> how do i install a .deb
[02:30] <Xorlev> sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[02:31] <cesarin> nalioth, thanks again!
[02:31] <_blake> question... would it be possible to install breezy and not have to reinstall all of my rediculous drivers (ie. video card, wireless drivers, etc? ))
[02:31] <Xorlev> apokryphos: Any ideas how to fix it? Or will I have to reinstall my entire system? Or will upping to breezy help?
[02:31] <apokryphos> Xorlev: it's essentially down to a couple of trouble-makers (packages), it's fixable, but probably not that easy
[02:31] <alexandros> I am not on breezy I am hoary
[02:32] <alexandros> I am not on breezy I am on hoary
[02:32] <apokryphos> Xorlev: no point reinstalling your entire system; breezy is just around the corner
[02:32] <Xorlev> apokryphos: So installing breezy should help if not fix it completely since its replacing pretty much everything?
[02:32] <tiglionabbit> hi
[02:32] <cesarin> apokryphos, actual users of breezy will have to just install updates to get to the "release version" ? or they do have to reinstall everything again?
[02:33] <apokryphos> Xorlev: quite sure it would fix the problem, yes.
[02:33] <Xorlev> apokryphos: I can bide my time then.
[02:33] <tiglionabbit> when can I start ordering CDs to get the official Breezy release?
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: not sure I understand the question
[02:33] <nalioth> cesarin: apt-get is designed to keep you up to date
[02:33] <cesarin> apokryphos, : I mean that I have breezy atm.. the release candidate...
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: doing an update is like doing a reinstall of a package -- you install different .debs
[02:33] <apokryphos> cesarin: ok..
[02:33] <cesarin> does that mean I have to install everything from scratch?
[02:33] <cesarin> Ie, when the REAL breezy comes out
[02:33] <nalioth> cesarin: i've had warty on this particular machine and havent used a cd since (for an install)
[02:33] <cesarin> but I think nalioth just answered
[02:34] <apokryphos> Xorlev: I'd tell you to update right now, but you might have X problems (which people lately are complaining about), and can be tricky situation if you don't know exactly what to do
[02:34] <nalioth> cesarin: apt-get is a great and powerful friend
[02:34] <cesarin> nalioth, Ic, thank you, so I supose everything is done by the synapsis
[02:34] <punkrockmcduck> How do I enable printer sharing in ubuntu?
[02:34] <cesarin> or.. the apt-get
[02:34] <apokryphos> cesarin: yes, you just dist-upgrade to it
[02:34] <blekos> apokryfos what u gave me returns-following the instr. of the link-package w32 codecs are not available
[02:34] <punkrockmcduck> I have files shared through samba with my windows machine but I want it to also be able to use the printer, but it gets access denied when i try to use it.
[02:34] <apokryphos> cesarin: synaptic can do it too, yes.
[02:34] <cesarin> 15 secs :D
[02:34] <nightair> can I safely remove *.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[02:35] <cesarin> nalioth,  ty again
[02:35] <mrchicago> hey i got another program to work
[02:35] <nalioth> nightair: you can, but not recommended
[02:35] <Pluk> nightair, sudo apt-get clean will do that for you
[02:35] <nalioth> nightair: use the 'clean' option with apt-get
[02:35] <Pluk> :)
[02:35] <nightair> okok thanks
[02:36] <_jason> i just updated and now my firefox is broken, can anyone help?
[02:36] <nightair> nice. it worked; all clean now :)
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> hey guys, are they using the disc art some of the artists made?
[02:37] <alexandros> have anyone had sucess installing realplayer using apt-get?
[02:37] <Xenguy> nightair: 'apt-get autoclean' can be useful
[02:37] <alexandros> realplayer 10 that is
[02:37] <apokryphos> alexandros: it's not in the repositories
[02:38] <apokryphos> taken out of hoary-extras, at least (which is where it was)
[02:38] <apokryphos> might be some third-party repo with it somewhere, but doubtful
[02:38] <punkrockmcduck> anybody know what I have to do to allow my printer to be shared? file sharing works but no printer.
[02:39] <WebLOCH> awesome it works again
[02:39] <WebLOCH> ir woooorks
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> does anyone know about the ubuntu cover art?
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> for breezy I mean
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> I'm curious
[02:39] <alexandros> apokryphos: I know that but I can't find realplayer 8 bin to use what is in the repositories.
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> I plan on handing some of these CDs out.  I want to know what they'll look like
[02:39] <apokryphos> alexandros: realplayer 8 is in multiverse
[02:40] <picole> _jason,me too ,i have just do what you do ,and the result is just the same
[02:40] <nightair> x-common update for Breezy still conflicting with another fonts package right?
[02:41] <alexandros> apokryphos: is that the one that requires you to have the bin file to install?
[02:41] <apokryphos> alexandros: nope
[02:41] <charm__> nightair: yup
[02:41] <_jason> picole i just solved it with kairu's help
[02:41] <_jason> can i pm you?
[02:41] <apokryphos> alexandros: it's in the repositories; make sure you have multiverse and you can get realplayer 8 (at least)
[02:41] <nightair> charm__, ok thanks
[02:41] <picole> can you tell me how to sovle
[02:41] <picole> thanks
[02:43] <alexandros> apokryphos: I do have it but it is not listed there
[02:43] <MindChild> Can someone help me with remastering a livecd? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68594
[02:44] <apokryphos> alexandros: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list then
[02:44] <kairu0> is there a "data on the fly" music burning app for gnome yet? i really dont want to install k3m...
[02:44] <nightair> redundant loading of some kernel modules what's a good way to track that down? as in I flip to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and I see some insmods of modules that are already loaded
[02:45] <jroes> wow
[02:45] <MindChild> Jesus christ ... is insmod still used?
[02:45] <nalioth> kairu0: in breezy will be serpentine
[02:45] <psusi> has anyone successfully used gparted to resize an ntfs partition?  it doesn't seem to work in the breezy preview... click apply and nothing happens
[02:45] <alexandros> apokryphos: pastebin?
[02:45] <cesarin> I wonder why it keeps refusing to install x-common on breezy :P
[02:45] <kairu0> nalioth, serpentine can do that in breezy perview?
[02:45] <jroes> I installed ubuntu one time on this box, and grub wouldn't start.  then I reinstalled all over again with LILO, and it just says "L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99"
[02:46] <cesarin> psusi, I prefered to use partition magic :P
[02:46] <MindChild> jroes: Lilo didnt install
[02:46] <apokryphos> alexandros: check the link ubotu just gave you
[02:46] <_jason> apokryphos, can i pm you
[02:46] <apokryphos> sure
[02:46] <psusi> 1) you have to pay for that and 2) in years past, the 3 times I or someone I know who tried to use it, got their partition trashed
[02:46] <jroes> MindChild: but.... I ran the LILO installer... ?
[02:46] <misfit_toy> so is x-common still borked if I do the latest update?
[02:46] <MindChild> but... it didt work
[02:46] <cesarin> psusi:you actually want to pay? :P
[02:47] <jroes> hmm, as this is the second failure, is there something I should do to try to check my drives and fix any errors if possible?
[02:47] <nalioth> kairu0: my serpentine segmentation faults when i try to run it
[02:47] <nalioth> kairu0: ymmv
[02:47] <psusi> of course not... which is why I'm not using it
[02:47] <alexandros> do it now
[02:47] <psusi> well, and more importantly, I don't trust it to not fuck up
[02:47] <cesarin> and pmagic never failed me so far :P
[02:47] <MindChild> jroes: sometimes lilo is a whore... thats why most distos have a manual and an auto isntall
[02:48] <jroes> hrmph
[02:48] <jroes> well I think maybe this might be something
[02:48] <jroes> it has a really old shitty trident 4mb video card
[02:48] <kairu0> nalioth, ok
[02:48] <jroes> and when I run the ubuntu installer, it crashes on the first attempt for a second - something about framebuffer unsupported
[02:49] <jroes> and then it blinks back in again and displays properly
[02:49] <nightair> misfit_toy, they've told me it's still borked
[02:49] <misfit_toy> nightair, thanks
[02:49] <MindChild> jroes: thats not your issue
[02:49] <jroes> it flashes only for a brief moment so I can't be exactly sure of what it says
[02:49] <jroes> hmm.  well then I'm thinking there is some type of hardware issue - I just don't know what I should run/do to attempt to troubleshoot it
[02:49] <nightair> MindChild, what's replacement for insmod?
[02:49] <psusi> modprobe
[02:49] <MindChild> jroes: Your card isnt specifically supported by the framebuffer driver (old/no VESA), so it uses VGA
[02:49] <jroes> like maybe just some partition table corruption or something that can be taken care of with something nice
[02:50] <MindChild> nightair: modprobe... insmod is like... 2.0 kernel days
[02:50] <nightair> psusi, ah indeed, of course. I knew that :)
[02:50] <alexandros> what to do after I paste it?
[02:50] <MindChild> jroes: your system is still there... just get lilo working
[02:51] <nightair> Breezy is somewhere calling some insmods of some modules then it reports back already loaded. any advice on tracking that down
[02:51] <jroes> hrmph.  any ideas?  just try installing it again?
[02:51] <benkong2> apokryphos; I am doing a breezy upgrade on my amd k8 machine get an error "/var/cache/apt/archives/php-html-template-it_1.10-3_all.deb E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)" What does it all mean? Won't go past this error lacks 1234 files for install/upgrade.
[02:51] <MindChild> jroes: sure
[02:51] <jroes> I don't know, it just seems like if grub fails, and lilo fails, there's some hardware issue, but I'll try again if you think that might help
[02:51] <MindChild> jroes: maybe a bad block on your MBR
[02:51] <jroes> I wasn't able to figure out how to run it by itself, something about needing to set the /target, and it won't let me run through the partition table edit stuff without formatting
[02:51] <apokryphos> benkong2: did you apt-get update first?
[02:52] <benkong2> apokryphos; yes followed the wiki docs exactly
[02:52] <apokryphos> benkong2: any errors in apt-get update?
[02:53] <benkong2> apokryphos; none
[02:53] <_n00blar_> Just an FYI for those with ATI cards that are running Breezy and have gotten the latest updates...those X patches overwrite libGL.so file. Easy fix..reinstall the ATI drivers to fix the problem.
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: and this error is on dist-upgrade? Could you pastebin a bit more of that?
[02:54] <cesarin> _n00blar_,  and how do you reinstall them?
[02:54] <alexandros> apokryphos: what to do after I paste it?
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: also, did you check that you had ubuntu-desktop before you did the dist-upgrade?
[02:54] <apokryphos> alexandros: produce the link in here
[02:54] <benkong2> apokryphos; I did not check ubuntu-desktop prior to dist-upgrade
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: that's a necessity, really
[02:54] <_n00blar_> cesarin, use Synaptic to re-install xorg-driver-fglrx package
[02:55] <nightair> "Where Do you Want to Go Today?" :S
[02:55] <benkong2> ok let me do that first
[02:55] <cesarin> thanks
[02:55] <apokryphos> benkong2: can cause serious problems on your system if it's not done; the dist-upgrade depends on the metapackage to have a smooth upgrade
[02:55] <apokryphos> (i.e. what's obsolete, what's new etc)
[02:55] <benkong2> can I just walk back through the steps again.
[02:55] <apokryphos> that's all sorted through the metapack, generally
[02:55] <apokryphos> benkong2: did it start installing things?
[02:55] <apokryphos> if so, then probably not
[02:56] <benkong2> yes
[02:56] <apokryphos> benkong2: you sure you don't have it? dpkg -l|grep ubuntu-desktop  ...gives?
[02:56] <benkong2> n
[02:56] <xxxxx>  /server irc.reventaweb.com
[02:56] <xxxxx> /server irc.reventaweb.com
[02:56] <xxxxx> =/
[02:56] <benkong2> apokryphos;  hold on
[02:57] <benkong2> apokryphos; returns nothing
[02:57] <apokryphos> ok, you don't then
[02:57] <benkong2> apokryphos; gheech hope this doesn't make me have to reinstall
[02:58] <apokryphos> benkong2: maybe have a whack at trying to install ubuntu-desktop now
[02:58] <benkong2> apokryphos; ok working....
[02:59] <cesarin> brb
[02:59] <cesarin> restarting
[02:59] <dabaR> Why is my firefox not working? /topic :)
[02:59] <dabaR> I am just joking...I dont use firefox, if you did not get that.
[02:59] <apokryphos> dabaR: you'd be surprised by how many have asked so far :P
[02:59] <dabaR> aha, ok.
[03:00] <nightair> been hearing a lot of people with firefox issues I guess after the 1.0.7 update is that just something with Hoary because 107 update went smoothly on Breezy for me
[03:00] <kairu0> dabaR, you must use IE 3.0
[03:00] <dabaR> kairu0: the debian sensible browser.
[03:00] <apokryphos> nightair: it's because of backports
[03:00] <kairu0> dabaR, sensible browser? hmm
[03:00] <test34> kairu0, a web page on a CD ask me to roll back to netscape 4.0
[03:01] <kairu0> lol
[03:01] <dabaR> kairu0: thats a fancy name for epiphany afaik.
[03:01] <durt> opera is now free yay!
[03:01] <test34> (from a book bought this year)
[03:01] <kairu0> anyone got shockwave to work in any browser?
[03:01] <kairu0> durt, using it right now!
[03:01] <nightair> apokryphos, ah so like some people were trying to run 107 early before the official ubuntu 107
[03:01] <apokryphos> durt: hopefully open too, in the future :). A stretch, but who knows.
[03:01] <dabaR> durt, do you have a article about that?
[03:01] <nalioth> kairu0: i use galeon. i dont understand the fixation on firefox
[03:02] <durt> im sure you can find an article somewhere dabar
[03:02] <nightair> firefox rocks my body
[03:02] <alexandros> apokryphos: here is the link
[03:02] <apokryphos> nightair: yes; it's of course do-able, it's just that backports is often broken with FF packages
[03:02] <dabaR> durt: and this is something new?
[03:02] <alexandros> apokryphos: here is the link http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2473
[03:02] <apokryphos> alexandros: ok; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplayer
[03:02] <durt> dabar, i found out yesterday, i think it happened within the past couple of days
[03:02] <kairu0> dabaR, http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050920/tc_afp/norwayinternetsoftware
[03:03] <apokryphos> alexandros: you didn't have to put a screenshot :)
[03:04] <apokryphos> alexandros: and, er, synaptic shows it there. Not sure I understand the problem -- it's there.
[03:04] <dabaR> I could try using opera for a little. kairu0, thanks.
[03:04] <apokryphos> dabaR: Opera is indeed great
[03:04] <apokryphos> it's definitely the browser with the most, "ooo, that's convenient" isms
[03:04] <kairu0> dabaR, its pretty good!
[03:05] <MindChild> opera is ass
[03:05] <alexandros> apokryphos: look at the description
[03:05] <alexandros> apokryphos: in the picture
[03:05] <apokryphos> hah
[03:05] <nightair> Opera, I read their free version just got rid of ads
[03:05] <dabaR> does it work with keywords in the address bar?
[03:05] <apokryphos> alexandros: pretty annoying that they'd have the pack there. Weird.
[03:05] <apokryphos> nightair: correct
[03:06] <durt> dabar: "keywords"?
[03:06] <Earthen> I just installed the ATI fglrx-control panel how do I run it? anybody
[03:06] <MindChild> try 'sudo chmod -R 000 /'
[03:06] <kairu0> dabaR, download the debian sid version if you get it. the ubuntu version is broken on breezy
[03:06] <dabaR> durt: like, I type in ubuntu, and it seraches the web using google for that.
[03:06] <dabaR> kairu0: I use hoary:P off course.
[03:06] <durt> dabar, yeah it has that
[03:06] <alexandros> apokryphos: do you have any suggestions?
[03:06] <Entranced> Hello
[03:06] <test34> in breezy, if you drag a window in the workspaces switcher to the middle of 2 workspaces, it disapear from the workspaces switcher
[03:07] <test34> is that a bug
[03:07] <Entranced> I just ran apt dist-upgrade and I'm getting this error.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-bas
[03:07] <cesarin> Entranced,  I'm getting the same too
[03:07] <Entranced> x-common fails
[03:07] <poweruser> Hello I'm having problems trying to install drivers for my Matrox g200. Anybody care to help?
[03:08] <nightair> test34, that sounds interesting. I'm too scared to try it here though
[03:08] <durt> kairu0, the ubuntu version works, but it says it wants libqt3c102-mt. are you saying the debian version works without this error?
[03:08] <test34> entranced, I had the same problem, you need to tell apt to overwrite
[03:08] <_n00blar_> Entranced, the forums tell you how to fix it
[03:08] <dabaR> when it crashes, does opera ask you to restore tabs once you restart it?
[03:08] <Entranced> kew
[03:08] <dabaR> For example, When you log out instead of closing it.
[03:08] <test34> nightair, it dont disapear from the desktop, just from the workspace switcher
[03:08] <alexandros> apokryphos: I am still getting the samw thing thru apt-get
[03:08] <kairu0> durt, yes. the debian version is satisfied with libqt3-mt (which is in the breezy repositories)
[03:08] <_n00blar_> Entranced, just do a search for x-common in the forums
[03:08] <Entranced> _n00blar_, which forums ?
[03:08] <nightair> test34, you mean like the little thumbnails it shows in the switcher?
[03:08] <durt> kairu0 thanks
[03:09] <test34> nightair, yes
[03:09] <apokryphos> MindChild: don't give silly advice please
[03:09] <apokryphos> alexandros: yes, it's a dummy package
[03:09] <poweruser> Pretty please? :)
[03:09] <_n00blar_> Entranced, go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68500&highlight=x-common
[03:09] <nightair> test34, oh I dunno. I changed my switcher to show "1,2,3,4" instead of thumbnails. but that disappearance thing does sound troublesome. maybe it's a gnome bug
[03:10] <Entranced> _n00blar_, Sweet ..thnx
[03:10] <benkong2> apokryphos; ubuntu-desktop went off without errors? try the apt-get dist-upgrade now?
[03:10] <apokryphos> benkong2: cool! Yes
[03:10] <test34> nightair, if you drop the thumbnail in the middle of 2 workspace, it disapear
[03:10] <poweruser> Anyway when I'm trying to install the driver using sh install.sh being root it prompts me with the following
[03:10] <poweruser> Currently installed driver is the same as the installer file.
[03:10] <poweruser> X server driver not installed.
[03:10] <poweruser> Currently installed file is the same as the installer file.
[03:10] <poweruser> mga_hal_drv.o is not installed.
[03:10] <benkong2> apokryphos; cool upgrading....//:-)
[03:10] <alexandros> apokryphos: so there is no hope of getting a deb package to install real player?
[03:10] <nalioth> poweruser: do not paste
[03:11] <Gobbla> paste.ubuntulinux.nl use that poweruser
[03:11] <poweruser> meh
[03:11] <poweruser> :P
[03:11] <poweruser> I need help
[03:11] <apokryphos> alexandros: not really
[03:11] <apokryphos> poweruser: so ask, but don't flood
[03:11] <toolbox> ubuntu!
[03:11] <nightair> test34, maybe ask in gnome channel too. see if it's distro specific or maybe anyone with gnome 2.12 suffers from it too
[03:11] <fmasi> Hi is ther enny profile manager i could use to swith network configurations ?
[03:12] <alexandros> I tried downloading the rpm and converting it to deb but that did not work!
[03:12] <toolbox> here we are on Friday night dudes.
[03:12] <toolbox> :-)
[03:12] <Gobbla> saturday here..
[03:12] <Entranced> _n00blar_,  great fix...
[03:13] <nightair> test34, maybe info for finding out at  http://gnomesupport.org/wiki/index.php/IrcChannels
[03:13] <toolbox> Gobbla: your ok then :-)
[03:13] <toolbox> you are
[03:13] <Gobbla> :)
[03:13] <toolbox> over here, no life at all
[03:13] <Gobbla> didnt do shit friday either so :)
[03:13] <Entranced> cesarin, try this to fix the problem...It worked for me: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:13] <alexandros> anyone had success installing realplayer from a deb package?
[03:13] <toolbox> hehe
[03:13] <Gobbla> realplayer... plz
[03:14] <alexandros> apokryphos: thanks for your help
[03:14] <test34> nightair,  I will check
[03:15] <nightair> alexandros, I haven't tried debs for Real I installed from the real.com linux installer
[03:15] <cesarin> well I did what entrance told me and its fixed :>
[03:15] <cesarin> btw, whats the command to see the kernel's version?
[03:15] <test34> entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeK	test34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:16] <nightair> cesarin, uname
[03:16] <test34> entranced, Sep 23 16:34:59 GoRoDeK	test34,  cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ and next do  dpkg -i --force overwrite x-common_1.08_all.deb
[03:16] <cesarin> thx
[03:16] <cesarin> test34,  that works to fix the x-common problem
[03:16] <benkong2> apokryphos; rats here is the pastebin got the same error. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2475
[03:16] <Entranced> yup
[03:16] <nightair> cesarin, uname -a :p
[03:16] <cesarin> but you have to download the  x-common file :o
[03:16] <cesarin> thx nightair
[03:16] <alexandros> nightair: does that method put an entry in the installed programs database?
[03:16] <cesarin> ok, got the 686 version installed :>
[03:16] <test34> cesarin, if you get the error, you probably have the file
[03:16] <dr34mc0d3r> i currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??
[03:17] <cesarin> test34, well yes, fixed already :P
[03:17] <apokryphos> benkong2: looks like a problem with that specific package. Try removing it [temporarily]
[03:17] <benkong2> apokryphos; k
[03:18] <apokryphos> benkong2: heh, I missed the first part
[03:18] <nightair> alexandros, as far is will apt / synaptic see Real as being installed? not sure. probably not..not sure about the installed database though or where to check. it at least did put the icon in gnome menu though :-/
[03:18] <apokryphos> benkong2: it's the only package having problems... you have breezy :)
[03:18] <kritty> Hey all.... I'm getting an error about xfonts not being able to update.... any ideas?
[03:18] <benkong2> yes the only package
[03:18] <alexandros> nightair: ok thanks
[03:19] <bonee> how do i read mail in ubuntu
[03:19] <Entranced> kritty, is it the x-common error ?
[03:19] <bonee> it say i got mail
[03:19] <bonee> but where
[03:19] <toxicle> boman_: use mutt
[03:19] <toxicle> bonee: use mutt
[03:19] <jroes> hm
[03:19] <dr34mc0d3r> bonee - go to a terminal window and try "mail"
[03:19] <jroes> does e2fsck -c -v -p /dev/hda1   check the MBR?
[03:20] <cesarin> btw, anyone knows in what multiverse address appears the Sun's java or the blackdowns?s
[03:20] <cesarin> and yes, I already cheked the Wiki's java page :P
[03:20] <cesarin> so dont toss me ubotu :P
[03:20] <toxicle> is there a ncurses way of enabling/disabling services?
[03:20] <nightair> alexandros, I didn't see any Real package in Breezy official repositories and I'm not using any backports (yet) so I just used the real.com installer. I dunno if that was the ideal move though. the player works at least.
[03:21] <nalioth> cesarin: do you want java?
[03:21] <test34> cesarin, JRE ?
[03:21] <cesarin> nalioth,  just for firefox :O
[03:21] <nalioth> cesarin: hoary or breezy?
[03:21] <cesarin> basic java console
[03:21] <cesarin> breezy, 32 bit 686
[03:21] <cesarin> nalioth, trashed the 64 bit version, :P
[03:22] <test34> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:22] <cesarin> test34,  you didnt read what I wrote earlier, did you? :P
[03:22] <toxicle> noli: i'm on hoary ... which java package should i install for firefox?
[03:23] <apokryphos> cesarin: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt
[03:23] <test34> cesarin, where did you see ubotu
[03:23] <elad`> My pointer is really slow, and setting the sensitivity to maximum in Preferences -> Mouse doesn't help. Ideas?
[03:23] <alexandros> nightair: do you know how to uninstall it when the time comes to upgrade?
[03:23] <chizang> howdy, i'm having some problems with rhythmbox not recognizing mp3s. is this the appropriate channel or should i go poking about in #gnome?
[03:23] <apokryphos> !mp3
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:24] <toxicle> chi, i got the same problem with ya
[03:24] <apokryphos> chizang: this is the apropriate place; check that provided link.
[03:24] <nightair> alexandros, good question. I had wondered that too. I just assumed there's some uninstall flag to add from commandline but I'll try to verify for us.
[03:24] <cesarin> test34, : ubotu trows you to wiki's
[03:24] <kairu0> yeah that link will definitely help you
[03:24] <fossa> i am trying to compile something but ./configure says 'checking for dcc... no'   but synaptic shows gcc IS installed  ?
[03:24] <test34> cesarin, it says to build your own java
[03:24] <nalioth> fossa: install "build-essential"
[03:24] <apokryphos> fossa: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[03:25] <toxicle> one question guys ... why does my XMMS hang when i try to play a song?
[03:25] <toxicle> !xmms
[03:25] <ubotu> from memory, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[03:25] <chizang> apokryphos: thx for the pointer, i'll check it out.
[03:25] <cesarin> apokryphos,  thanks man, downloading from there
[03:25] <fossa> ok thanks a bunch. for some reason when i installed ubuntu then gcc on my laptop, it worked fine.
[03:26] <apokryphos> np
[03:26] <dabaR> toxicle: congratulations on answering your own question within seconds.
[03:26] <red_blood> !ubuntu
[03:26] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[03:26] <toxicle> dabaR: thanks :)
[03:26] <alexandros> nightair: ok, thanks I will here waiting
[03:26] <jroes> wow.
[03:26] <jroes> I experienced a lilo error code that isn't even listed in the user docs
[03:26] <red_blood> !awards
[03:26] <ubotu> [awards]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[03:26] <red_blood> !gaim
[03:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[03:27] <dabaR> red_blood: they are arsTechnica awards.
[03:27] <red_blood> !kde
[03:27] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[03:27] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[03:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[03:27] <test34> !wine
[03:27] <cesarin> wondering if there is a trillian-like  gaim.. I dont like giam at all, looks like aMSN copy
[03:27] <apokryphos> Guys, /msg to investigate with the bot
[03:28] <apokryphos> cesarin: there's Kopete
[03:28] <dabaR> cesarin: maybe you can skin gaim.
[03:28] <dabaR> cesarin: well, mayybe not too, but...
[03:29] <cesarin> dabar: so gaim is skinneable?
[03:29] <test34> how can you change the default icon size ?
[03:29] <test34> (on desktop)
[03:29] <jroes> wah
[03:29] <cesarin> apokryphos, : and you think kopete is .. hmm.. stable?
[03:29] <jroes> lilo-installer is in a deb
[03:29] <jroes> and I can't install a deb from that command line can I
[03:29] <dabaR> cesarin: no, not really.
[03:30] <apokryphos> cesarin: entirely stable, of course.
[03:30] <cesarin> apok: thanks, might take a look at it :>
[03:30] <dabaR> jroes: you are playing withy fire, it seems. dunno how to fix it, tho.
[03:30] <bipolar> can I force install x-common over xfonts-common to get the updater to quit annoying me?
[03:30] <kairu0> what is the date for the breezy release?
[03:30] <dr34mc0d3r> jroes - sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb
[03:31] <dabaR> night apokryphos.
[03:31] <kairu0> chizang, nice use of "hose"
[03:31] <dabaR> kairu0: the 13th is what keeps being repeated.
[03:31] <dr34mc0d3r> jroes - greate resource - http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:31] <nalioth> dr34mc0d3r: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[03:31] <cesarin> dabaR,  I know but about TAB, but sometimes it has too many nicknames for x-chat
[03:32] <cesarin> and it just puts a list of nicknames
[03:32] <dr34mc0d3r> :( - ok
[03:32] <nalioth> cesarin: use irssi
[03:32] <kairu0> dabaR, thnkx
[03:32] <cesarin> nalioth, : im on X
[03:32] <digitize> yeah even though irssi is a cmd line client
[03:32] <cesarin> theres a irssi version for X?
[03:32] <digitize> it's very easy and very nice to us
[03:32] <nalioth> cesarin: AND?
[03:32] <jroes> nalioth: what's wrong with ubuntuguide?
[03:32] <digitize> cesarin: it's cmd line
[03:32] <digitize> open up a terminal
[03:32] <cesarin> nalioth, ill stay with this ;)
[03:32] <dabaR> cesarin: add another letter, then try again.
[03:33] <digitize> cesarin: that's not a wise move
[03:33] <digitize> irssi is 10000x better
[03:33] <test34> !ubuntuguide
[03:33] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:33] <cesarin> digitize, not dumb, used irssi because x-chat text was crap :P
[03:33] <cesarin> and when X was down
[03:33] <digitize> and hell, it's easier to move around windows
[03:33] <jroes> !faq
[03:33] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[03:33] <digitize> cesarin: and you don't like it?
[03:33] <dr34mc0d3r> ahhh - ok....
[03:33] <dabaR> later
[03:33] <cesarin> digitize, just feel like in the old MSDOS days
[03:34] <jroes> ah, I used !faq in privmsg by accident
[03:34] <cesarin> and it makes me shiver ;)
[03:34] <benkong2> what would cause my breezy upgrade not to put the entries in /boot/grub/menu.list file it rebooted fine it's just into the old kernel so no new boot screen etc.
[03:34] <dabaR> nalioth: get out of here...
[03:34] <jroes> but apparently you can't use the command char in msg
[03:34] <digitize> eh, all right
[03:34] <cesarin> btw, .deb packages can easily be installed with pkg right?
[03:35] <digitize> yes, for the most part they should be compliant
[03:35] <cesarin> dpkg -i <name of package> right?
[03:35] <digitize> yes
[03:35] <dabaR> cesarin: you should install almost e4verything using the apt package management system, from the oficial repos.
[03:35] <dabaR> otherwise you are on thin ice.
[03:35] <cesarin> dabaR,  triying to install "FLASH" and "JAVA"
[03:35] <chizang> cesarin: i would do a dpkg -e first to see what the control scripts will do
[03:35] <cesarin> and they dont seem to appear in the synap's default 9 repositories
[03:36] <dabaR> flash is in apt. java is not, but the debs from that torrent are supposedly safe. I would not even trust that. you can make your own debs with the official .bin from sun.
[03:36] <gt500> Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?
[03:36] <cesarin> chizang, : the w32 codecs .deb package appears to do nothing
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> gt500, have glx enabled
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> ?
[03:37] <dabaR> gt500: yes, you dont have a graphics card like me.
[03:37] <nightair> alexandros, I really don't know for certain. me personally when the time comes I will probably just remove the program folders manually or for update I might just reinstall over top. it may find itself and update. sorry I can't say for sure
[03:37] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz: Where is that?
[03:37] <dr34mc0d3r> i currently have a ATI Rage Pro 128 (pci) - I just got an nvidia mx400 64meg AGP x4 - I install the hardware and boot up - i get a nasty blue screen err0r saying that X-Server cant start and to fix the problem and reboot....is hardware detection in ubuntu not so good? What can i do to use my nvidia card??
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> anyone if breezy has debug symbols enabled or something
[03:37] <nalioth> cesarin: open a terminal and type "ls /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[03:37] <chizang> cesarin: they get extracted to a DEBIAN/ directory (just in case you weren't looking in the right place)
[03:37] <nightair> alexandros, I did search on google for answers but nothing too clear.
[03:37] <MaDsKiLLz> i cant figure out why my pc is running so much slower now that i've upgraded
[03:37] <cesarin> nalioth,  going...
[03:37] <dr34mc0d3r> im also experiancing slow video response
[03:37] <cesarin> chizang,  gotta check that too
[03:38] <alexandros> nightair: I have been searching the web it sems that alot of people are asking this question to which there seems to be no answer
[03:38] <cesarin> nalioth, : empty directory or missing
[03:38] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz do you know where that is??
[03:38] <ardchoille> Hi. is 5.10 (breezy) a development version? Should I wait for a more stable version before downloading?
[03:39] <nalioth> cesarin: get your w32codecs here giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[03:39] <gt500> MaDsKiLLz please help
[03:39] <cesarin> nalioth, I just downloaded them via torrent
[03:39] <nalioth> cesarin: sorry not there http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[03:39] <cesarin> apok got me a link for a bitorrent site
[03:39] <kairu0> yeah! thank god for dri.freedesktop.org! my opengl looks nice again!
[03:40] <cesarin> and I downloaded both JAVA &  w32 codecs from there
[03:40] <gt500> cesarin torrentspy.com
[03:40] <nalioth> cesarin: then you've got them installed
[03:40] <nightair> alexandros, I think maybe their .bin installer just places itself in a folder like in /usr/local or something. then might also create symlink or place plugin into browser plugins folder like firefox if u have it or if u accepted real plugin.
[03:40] <benplaut> bleh
[03:40] <cesarin> nalioth, not yet, I got the file, but thats why I Was asking the command to install them
[03:40] <gt500> Can anybody tell me why my graphics card is running games incrdibly slow
[03:40] <cesarin> then I wondered if it was dpkg -i <deb file name>
[03:41] <MaDsKiLLz> are breezy's binarys stripped?
[03:41] <nalioth> cesarin: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i install file.deb"
[03:41] <cesarin> and chizang  recommended me to check first the "control"
[03:41] <axl> how do i install javac?
[03:41] <gt500> Does anybody know why my video games, such as TuxRacer are running incredibly slow?
[03:41] <chizang> gt500: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[03:41] <gt500> k
[03:41] <jroes> argharghargh
[03:41] <jroes> ok
[03:41] <jroes> I'm at a console that you can use during the install - I need to install lilo
[03:42] <jroes> I was thinking possibly using dpkg, but dpkg isn't in the path and I can't seem to find a binary anywhere
[03:42] <cesarin> "errors found durring 'install' "
[03:42] <cesarin> vev
[03:42] <cesarin> brb
[03:42] <Christophe971> hello
[03:42] <WebLOCH> Opera was installed by default!
[03:42] <fmasi> Hi can some one tel me how to start a service in ubuntu i use to use the redhat system
[03:42] <nightair> alexandros, I see on mine there is link  /usr/bin/realplay -> /usr/lib/real/realplay and it seems the program lives in /usr/lib/real
[03:42] <gt500> When I run a simple video game, it lags like crazy, does anybody know what this is; possible graphics drivers???
[03:42] <Christophe971> just a question from a french man
[03:43] <Christophe971> what does "human beings" stand for ?
[03:43] <Christophe971> what does it means ?
[03:43] <jroes> people
[03:43] <sproingie> gt500: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:43] <test34> Christophe971, un tre humain
[03:43] <sproingie> gt500: does it say Yes or No?
[03:43] <WebLOCH> means not the french!
[03:43] <Agrajag> now that's not nice
[03:43] <gt500> hold on
[03:43] <WebLOCH> I was only joking
[03:43] <test34> ou les tre humains
[03:44] <Christophe971> test34: oki
[03:44] <cesarin> nalioth, : thepackage doesnt seem to like melol
[03:44] <gt500> sproingie under direct rendering??
[03:44] <ongster> hello, i have a question about audacity.  How come it can't export to mp3?
[03:44] <gt500> sproingie it says "no"
[03:44] <nalioth> !tell ongster about restricted
[03:44] <WebLOCH> ongster, MP3 is a restricted format, theres a good chance you can
[03:44] <sproingie> gt500: that's your problem.  you have no 3d accelleration
[03:45] <gt500> sproingie how do I put that on
[03:45] <sproingie> gt500: what kind of card do you have?
[03:45] <gt500> geforece fr 5200
[03:45] <gt500> fx
[03:45] <cesarin> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2476
[03:45] <sproingie> gt500: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:46] <nightair> alexandros, ok also I see the log /usr/lib/real/install.log it tells what was done
[03:46] <cesarin> and Damn these ppl, they stoped seeding the bitorrent for java >_<
[03:46] <fmasi> can some one tel me how to start vsftpd as a sevice in ubuntu (new at ubuntu)
[03:46] <WebLOCH> cesarin just download the binary from sun
[03:46] <nalioth> cesarin: go to www.mplayerhq.hu the downloads page has an 'essental package'
[03:47] <durt> dabaR: i dont logout without closing opera; but you can choose whether to restore the tabs or not i guess
[03:47] <j0nas`> is breezy relatively stable?
[03:47] <WebLOCH> no
[03:47] <j0nas`> or should i wait till RC comes out
[03:47] <WebLOCH> yes
[03:47] <j0nas`> i am excited
[03:47] <test34> j0nas`, you should wait if you dont want any problems
[03:47] <`psycho> hi ppl
[03:48] <durt> unless he is having problems that might be alleviated in breezy
[03:48] <j0nas`> i am actually
[03:48] <toolbox> `psycho: hello
[03:48] <j0nas`> sound card issues
[03:48] <WebLOCH> durt not really worth the chance
[03:48] <WebLOCH> j0nas`,  whats your card?
[03:49] <j0nas`> i have an audigy card plus an onboard sound processor
[03:49] <j0nas`> meaning on the motherboard
[03:49] <Digo_RP> guys
[03:49] <test34> after the automatic updates, my X wouldnt boot
[03:49] <j0nas`> i cant get xmms, beep, anything to work
[03:49] <Digo_RP> please, I have install ubuntu amd64
[03:49] <j0nas`> i got some sound out of totem once
[03:49] <test34> (or start on boot)
[03:49] <Adross> in hoary, if you have gaim on one workspace, and are working on another, clicking on the gaim icon or on a guification will take you to gaim's workspace.
[03:49] <Adross> In breezy, clicking on the gaim icon or a guification brings the app to your workspace.
[03:49] <Adross> Is there anyway to change this?
[03:49] <j0nas`> but otherwise whatever app tries to use it freeze right up
[03:49] <WebLOCH> j0nas`, i can run you thru what i did
[03:49] <durt> in breezy ive had an easier time with sound cards and no noticeble problems
[03:49] <j0nas`> okay
[03:49] <Digo_RP> how could I install sun-j2re1.5
[03:49] <WebLOCH> lets move to pm
[03:49] <j0nas`> that would be great
[03:49] <Digo_RP> ?
[03:50] <`psycho> before i run into anything...can somebody tell me what's teh UTC time
[03:50] <WebLOCH> Digo_RP,  go download the binary from sun
[03:50] <`psycho> i thought that's GMT+0
[03:50] <Digo_RP> tnx
[03:50] <gt500> sproingie it says comand not found
[03:50] <Adross> utc=gmt
[03:50] <`psycho> i c
[03:50] <`psycho> then can u explain this
[03:50] <sproingie> gt500: did you go to that site?
[03:50] <`psycho> Local time is now: Sat Sep 24 03:49:21 CEST 2005.
[03:50] <`psycho> Universal Time is now: Sat Sep 24 01:49:21 UTC 2005.
[03:50] <gt500> sproingie yes, i typed in  the command and says not found
[03:50] <`psycho> i'm in CET=GMT+1
[03:51] <`psycho> so why are there 2 hrs diff ?!
[03:51] <sproingie> gt500: you have to put that into a web browser
[03:51] <gt500> nooo not the link
[03:51] <gt500> sproingie i put the command that the link tells you to
[03:51] <durt> Digo_rp: you can get the ubuntu package from hoary extras or backports
[03:51] <gt500> ok
[03:52] <gt500> sproingie sudo  nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:52] <evil_k> hi anyone
[03:52] <fossa> what's the aptitude command to get tcl tk and blt?
[03:52] <fmasi> Some one tel me how to put vsftpd as service in ubuntu please
[03:52] <god-zero> `psycho: are you in daylight's savings time?
[03:52] <evil_k> hey, im brand new to linux, anyone wanna give me a few pointers?
[03:52] <sproingie> gt500: that's actually the first thing it tells you to type?  jeepers.
[03:52] <nightair> test34, I did search for keyword "switcher" on gnome's bugzilla. results:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=switcher&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=switcher&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=switcher&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=switcher
[03:53] <gt500> no, it says something about synaptic
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: try the parent page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:53] <Digo_RP> durt: how ? please
[03:53] <_blake> I keep getting this error even with all module dependecies installed "Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie it says something about synaptic
[03:53] <nightair> test34, maybe something related in there
[03:53] <_blake> can anyone help?
[03:53] <nalioth> nightair: /pm does exist for that sort of thing
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: i suggest following those synaptic instructions then
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie but i already did that
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie universe or multiverse
[03:53] <nightair> nalioth, yea sorry I didn't realize how large the url was
[03:53] <sproingie> gt500: restricted
[03:53] <gt500> sproingie let me check
[03:54] <cesarin> nalioth, by any chance, can you tell me again what was that program similar to WINAMP but for X?
[03:54] <sproingie> gt500: just enable them all in sources.list
[03:54] <nalioth> cesarin: xmms
[03:54] <ebdain> cesarin - XMMS
[03:54] <test34> nightair, I will check because nobody got this issue so far in #gnome
[03:54] <gt500> sproingie yes
[03:54] <cesarin> thx
[03:54] <nalioth> cesarin: or use beep media player (a gtk2 port of xmms)
[03:54] <sproingie> and jebuz, i hope breezy ships with them all enabled or at least a farking wizard at install time
[03:55] <gt500> sproingie so i'm not sure