[00:44] <pcarrier> hey! do you have some up-to-date documentation about how the official AMIs are produced, or even better, how to tune the process to produce custom AMIs? I'm assuming lp:~ubuntu-on-ec2/vmbuilder/automated-ec2-builds is still used, but I'd like to be sure.
[00:48] <sarnold> pcarrier: this looks related: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images#Building_Your_Own_Ubuntu_Cloud_Guest_images
[00:48] <sarnold> pcarrier: (I started from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ and followed likely-looking links..)
[00:49] <pcarrier> sarnold: ok, so you expect that to be up-to-date, thanks
[00:50] <pcarrier> I mean, everything but one sentence refers to 11.10 or older
[00:50] <sarnold> pcarrier: I hope so :) it at least knows about precise..
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: well, it does indeed barely pass that criteria
[00:51] <sarnold> hehe
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: but you see my point.
[00:51] <sarnold> yes.
[00:51] <pcarrier> sarnold: I'd rather hear "here's how we baked our latest batch of images, hoy hoy! enjoy while it's hot!"
[00:52] <pcarrier> not sure what I was going for with this quote.
[00:52] <sarnold> pcarrier: hehe, it make sense anyway :)
[00:55] <ia0001> hello
[00:55] <ia0001> anyone know why im unable to view flash videos on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:55] <ia0001> i updated all the flash stuff
[00:56] <sarnold> ia0001: servers don't typically have a graphical web browser installed, nor the flash player.. but if you've chosen to install those components, you'll also need to install the flashplugin-installer package
[00:57] <ia0001> ok i  installed that
[00:57] <ia0001> and its not working
[01:34] <jgdovin> hi all
[01:35] <jgdovin> so, while trying to fix my screen not being able to allocate ptys i screwed up /dev/pts perms
[01:35] <jgdovin> and now regular users get "must be connected to a terminal" when trying to run screen inside an ssh session thats already established
[01:43] <jgdovin> any help would be loved :)
[01:46] <sarnold> jgdovin: here's hoping this is useful to you :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714797/
[01:46] <sarnold> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[01:51] <ai9371> someone please help flash player is not working
[01:51] <ai9371> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[01:51] <ai9371> could it because somewhting to do with 32bit system.. it works fine on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> Ugh, can someone please tell how in the hell I start a RAID array in degraded mode?
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> State : active, degraded, Not Started
[02:52] <billy_ran_away> http://cl.ly/OKh1
[02:57] <scjr> Hey I'm having some linux-general-pae depependancy problems (stemming from not having enough space to configure a new kernel I think) anyone know any easy fixes? - http://pastebin.com/1mdfP10j
[03:37] <patdk-lap> did you run, apt-get update?
[05:25] <Shadow__X> hello I am running ubuntu 12.04.2 in a virtual machine on esxi. I have not been able to get cpu frequtils to work under ubuntu. this is what cpu freq lists http://pastebin.com/7nvmm0Wi also the cpu is an amd fx 8320
[05:46] <[LE]> I'm trying to setup an openvpn server on a VPS running Ubuntu 12.10, and I'm able to connect to the server from my windows machines. But cant seem to figure out the routing part with iptables
[05:48] <[LE]> this is the only entry I have in the firewall: "iptables -A FORWARD -i tun0 -o venet0:0 -j ACCEPT
[05:48] <[LE]> "
[08:31] <Syria> Hello, I have a remote VPS, I usually create an ssh tunnel and browse internet using it with command "ssh -D 'port' user@host" my question is can I apply these settings system wide? I am talking about the socks proxy and port settings.
[08:34] <Shadow__X> Syria: you can put it in to your browser
[08:35] <Shadow__X> Syria: i know that OS X makes system wide proxys very easy but iirc windows wasnt as easy for system wide
[08:35] <Syria> Shadow__X: Some applications doesn't allow you to use any proxies.
[08:36] <Shadow__X> then you might want to try openvpn or another type of vpn
[08:37] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Someone told me that I can do it from the terminal, iptables thing!
[08:37] <Shadow__X> probably but i am not entirely sure how
[08:37] <Shadow__X> a vpn would be a good idea though
[08:38] <Shadow__X> that would allow you to secure all of your traffic
[08:38] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Is it easy to configure my server and change it into a VPN server?
[08:39] <Shadow__X> Syria: this seems pretty complete https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[08:39] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Thank you
[08:39] <Shadow__X> Syria: so it would depend on how comfortable you would be following that
[08:39] <Syria> Shadow__X:  I will read it now,
[08:40] <Shadow__X> since it is a vps i would take a snapshot before you do anyting
[08:40] <Shadow__X> if you can take snapshots that is
[08:40] <Syria> snapshot of what? Are you talking about a backup?
[08:41] <Shadow__X> snapshot of the server
[08:41] <Shadow__X> and yes a backup
[08:41] <Syria> Shadow__X:  Thnx again, I will start working on it now.
[08:42] <Shadow__X> Syria: make a backup before you do anything
[08:42] <Shadow__X> and if your vps gives you access to snapshots make one of those as well
[08:48] <Kekke>  Hello everyone, I have an ubuntu server running LAMP, in apaches /var/www I have sub directories with users, i.e. /var/www/kekke/www/, this www folder is owned by the user Kekke with the group sftpuser, my group sftpuser gives the users access to the folder through sftp (their home dir is set to /var/www/user/www/). But when I install joomla to the www folder, I get all files/folders as unwritable, if I manually change them to 77
[08:48] <Kekke> if I however change the user owning the /user/www folder to www-data I get the correct permissions, but that makes my user unable to sftp to their dir, what do I need to achieve correct permissions on every new user I add?
[09:07] <shmoon> hello friends
[09:07] <shmoon> in the chroot tutorial i read to do this /proc /var/chroot/hardy/proc none rbind 0 0 - is it really good to do this, is it safe? can affect environment outside chroot
[09:09] <andol> shmoon: Whatever that is a good idea really depends on the purpose of the chroot.
[09:10] <shmoon> andol: just want to execute few binaries, but still in general, if something wrong happens there it'll affect the /proc outside, so it shouldnt be a good thing to do
[09:11] <shmoon> the tutorial also mentions to do a mount on /dev
[09:11] <shmoon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot - i am a beginner trying to understand
[09:14] <andol> shmoon: Well, if you are worried about something being on purpose malicious I wouldn't mount /proc in the chroot. On the other hand, most regular userspace programs won't accidently fail in a fashion which will cause problems with procs.
[09:14] <andol> shmoon: Yet, to be on the safe side and not having to worry, how about instead going for a virtual test machine?
[09:14] <catphish> i notice that some libraries have moved from /usr/lib to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu, is there a good way to determine the actual location of an installed library?
[09:15] <catphish> (programatically)
[09:17] <shmoon> andol: no idea how to set thyose up, chroot seemed easy
[09:23] <catphish> actually my question is unnecessary, libraries can always be specified by relative path
[11:44] <Deleteyrself> shut up and listen some http://anonpt.caster.fm/
[12:44] <vrturbo> whats the best was to test hard disk perfomance from the cli
[12:46] <patdk-wk> vrturbo, define hard disk performance
[12:46] <vrturbo> read , write speed
[12:46] <patdk-wk> well, that was a given
[12:47] <patdk-wk> bandwidth or latency performance?
[12:47] <vrturbo> i've got an ssd but I think Im hitting buffer issues
[12:47] <patdk-wk> buffer issues? buffers are bad
[12:47] <vrturbo> 838860800 bytes (839 MB) copied, 0.555752 s, 1.5 GB/s
[12:47] <vrturbo> that can't be right ?
[12:48] <patdk-wk> dunno
[12:48] <patdk-wk> I can't see the command you used to produce that output
[12:48] <vrturbo> if I test with 8gig I get a more believable output
[12:48] <vrturbo><PHONE_NUMBER> bytes (8.4 GB) copied, 29.5639 s, 284 MB/s
[12:49] <patdk-wk> you should always test with 10x your ram, and/or use direct
[12:49] <patdk-wk> you should also not use /dev/zero, but random
[12:49] <vrturbo> I  have 24 gig on this server
[12:49] <vrturbo> oh wait 8 gig on this one
[12:50] <vrturbo> never tested ssd before, it's a new server so hasn't been put to work yet
[12:51] <patdk-wk> testing an ssd is the same as testing a normal disk
[12:51] <patdk-wk> the only difference I know of, is, they started adding compression into ssd's
[12:51] <patdk-wk> so using /dev/zero will give you higher than normal results
[12:51] <patdk-wk> I have no idea why they haven't done that with normal disks, but it might be half pointless maybe
[12:52] <vrturbo> lets try 10 gig test and doing a sync this time
[12:52] <vrturbo><PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes (10 GB) copied, 38.6364 s, 271 MB/s
[12:53] <vrturbo> just a single sata drive
[14:34] <CalebRipley> Hello, i have trouble with samba since yesterday. All of my maschines are unable to loggin on my PDC. I know that it is unlikely but is it possible that the patch from yesterday caused that?
[14:36] <imjustmatthew_> CalebRipley: I applied the patch and didn't have nay problems so far, but I have a pretty simple setup (Samba as PDC against local users only, no OpenLDAP or MIT Kerbeos)
[14:42] <CalebRipley> I am not quite sure, the patch cve-2013-0454.patch looked pretty harmless but all machines are unable to login since then.
[14:45] <CalebRipley> I am just using the default passwd backend
[14:57] <feisar> hi, I have a script which adds some routing rules, it works fine when run manually but not when called from /etc/rc.local (this is a clean 12.04 install) why might that be?
[15:04] <greppy> feisar: are you giving the full path to the commands?
[15:05] <feisar> greppy: I'm giving the full path to a script which has the commands in (/usr/local/bin/routing)
[15:05] <feisar> ah but that doesn't have the full paths to the commands in...
[15:08] <feisar> ok I'm rebooting the machine...
[15:12] <pdkl> why is my syslog empty?
[15:12] <feisar> greppy: yes, I think that's sorted it, thank you : )
[15:13] <feisar> greppy: (there was also somthing else wrong too when I checked the script so I'm not sure if I needed the full paths, but I'll leave them in)
[16:29] <greppy> feisar: you either need the full paths, or you need to specify a PATH variable in the script.
[18:25] <izanagisan> good afternoon to all
[18:25] <ThatOneRoadie> Long time no see :{
[18:25] <ThatOneRoadie> :P*
[19:17] <keithzg_> Hmphh, trying to do some OpenCL stuff on some remote machines, but even "sudo DISPLAY=:0 fglrxinfo" and I get "error: unable to open display (null)". And any opencl program I run at best segfaults :P
[19:24] <keithzg_> Hmm,  lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A3 seems to show that I'm using the "radeon" kernel module, even though /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf is explicitly blacklisting it.
[20:29] <fluvvell> are there any new "worthwhile" front ends for administering samba with ldap and the like? I'd like to give administration of usernames and passwords to a cabable staff member via a web interface if poss.
[21:14] <Mark2> Evening all. It's my first time installing ubuntu server onto an old pc for a home server and minecraft server for a few friends. I have a question - should I choose the 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu server? The pc has a pentium 4 2.4 Ghz CPU but I don't know if it has a "Prescott"core or whether it supports 64 bit processing. Any advice would be much appreciated!
[21:16] <Mark2> Anyone able to help?
[21:18] <sarnold> Mark2: 32 bit is likely to work everywhere, but 64 bit gives applications larger address spaces, which might be nice for minecraft, I thought I heard that thing sucks down whatever memory you give it..
[21:19] <genii-around> Mark2: If you boot to a livecd, you can do : sudo lshw -C cpu  | grep width     and it will tell you there
[21:21] <Mark2> Thanks guys. sarnold, would it not matter running applications with larger address spaces if the CPU can't handle 64 bit?
[21:22] <sarnold> Mark2: well, if the cpu won't do it, then it just won't go. :)
[21:22] <sarnold> Mark2: (honestly, I've never tried, I do'nt know how far into boot you'd make it, but less than a second sounds right :)
[21:23] <sarnold> Mark2: my comments about the address space were about the relative problems you'd have running 32 bits on a cpu capable of 64 bits -- it's not -so- bad, especially if you've only got 4 gigs of ram or less anyway :)
[21:24] <Mark2> Well I'm planning to put 4gig of Ram in the machine. It currently has a paultry 1GB...
[21:24] <genii-around> If it's a 32bit cpu, then you'll need the PAE kernel for it to see all 4
[21:25] <sarnold> do recent releases even have non-pae 32 bit kernels?
[21:25] <genii-around> sarnold: Lubuntu minimal does ;)
[21:25] <sarnold> genii-around: hunh :)
[21:25] <Mark2> I thought 32 bit systems could use up to 4GB natively.... I don't know lots about this as you can probably tell!
[21:26] <sarnold> genii-around: PAE page tables can't possibly add more than .. 16 bytes? .. to the pagetables in the kernels. that seems like an odd tradeoff to me.
[21:26] <sarnold> yeah, I thought a non-pae kernel ought to do 4 gigs just fine, but that's a spec I've never personally tried. :)
[21:27] <genii-around> Non-PAE ends up seeing somewhere in the area of 3.2G
[21:27] <sarnold> wow. I thoght that was just a windows problem. :)
[21:27] <sarnold> I mean, you'd only ever be able to give an -application- around 3 gigs, but I thought the computer as a whole could use all four.
[21:29] <Mark2> Just another quick question - would the 64bit version of ubuntu just refuse to run on a 32 bit machine? Basically, can I screw things up by trying to install the 64 bit version?
[21:29] <genii-around> Mark2: At any rate, I think the default 32bit kernel has PAE enabled by default now
[21:29] <genii-around> Mark2: Yes, the 64 bit version would just chink out and not install
[21:29] <genii-around> *chunk
[21:29] <Mark2> genii - thanks for the advice!
[21:29] <sarnold> Mark2: the worst is you would waste a cd or dvd burning something that won't boo
[21:30] <Patrickdk> what is the usespace limit for 32bit? 1gig? 2gig or 3gig?
[21:30] <Patrickdk> forget what ubuntu compiles the kernel mode for that
[21:30] <Patrickdk> that is always what I normally cared about
[21:30] <Patrickdk> why I would use 64bit even with 3gigs of ram
[21:30] <sarnold> Patrickdk: afaik, 3204 M
[21:30] <Patrickdk> plus I have some systems that only let you use 2.4gigs of ram, when you have 4gigs cause of bios stuff
[21:31]  * Patrickdk notes dell
[21:31] <sarnold> Patrickdk: though with standard library and executable layout, it'd probably run out of malloc space around 2.5 to 2.7 gigs in
[21:36] <Mark2> I think I just got an answer to my question: "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[21:37] <genii-around> 32bit it is
[21:37] <sarnold> hehe, there you go :) 32 bits.
[21:37] <Mark2> *sigh* time to re-download the OS in 32 bit...
[21:38] <Mark2> thanks again for your help! I'll keep an eye out for the PAE thing in case the memory isn't recognised too.
[21:39] <sarnold> cool :) once it is installed, apt-cache search pae will hopefully make it more clear..
[21:48] <Patrickdk> mark2, normally pae works fine, but rarely, a pae kernel won't boot on 32bit cpu
[21:49] <sarnold> Patrickdk: no kidding?
[21:49] <Patrickdk> yep
[21:49] <Patrickdk> I have one next to me :)
[21:49] <Patrickdk> it won't use more than 3gigs of ram, even if installed it won't see it
[21:49] <sarnold> Patrickdk: is it labeled "iNTEL inside! 386/25 SX!" ? :)
[21:49] <Patrickdk> and it won't boot a pae kernel, or 64bit, even with a 64bit cpu
[21:49]  * Patrickdk blames the bios/mb
[21:51] <sarnold> that seems likely
[21:51] <sarnold> what is it? old pentium celeron or something?
[21:51] <Patrickdk> has an intel d 940 in it
[21:51] <Patrickdk> sl95w
[21:52] <sarnold> wow, dual core 4 megs cache 64 bit 3.2 ghz.. I'd expect that to be tolerable. go figure. :)
[21:52] <Patrickdk> no 64bit, no pae, it won't boot
[21:52] <Patrickdk> works on normal 32bit kernel just fine
[21:52] <sarnold> vt-x!
[21:53] <Patrickdk> but only sees 3gigs of ram, doesn't even see the last gig in the bios to count
[21:53] <sarnold> no vt-d though
[21:53] <sarnold> haha, awesome
[21:53] <Patrickdk> msi 945 neo5
[21:53] <sarnold> it even has an execute disable bit! I would expect to even benefit from the pae kernels. man.
[21:54] <Patrickdk> also has 6 bad caps
[21:54] <Patrickdk> but it's been sitting on the shelf for a few years now
[21:54] <sarnold> as a warning to the others?
[21:54] <Patrickdk> as a, I can't believe this crap, I will overcome it sometime
[21:54] <genii-around> Sounds like a BIOS problem
[21:57] <cuken> Is ZFS on linux to a stable enough point to run as the main file system using samba as a nas solution off of ubuntu-server?
[22:01] <blkperl> cuken: they said the latest release is production ready
[22:01] <blkperl> cuken: have backups though
[22:03] <cuken> Thanks blkperl, my google fu has been pretty hit or miss on the actual setup on a new server, do you know of any decent guides/resources for getting that running from scratch
[22:05] <blkperl> cuken: sorry nope. all you need to do though is add the PPA
[22:06] <blkperl> cuken: let me know your how it goes, I'm curious how other people are using it/bugs they've faced
[22:15] <cuken> i will report back with failure reports
[22:47] <izanagisan> quick question: has anyone tried to install Ubuntu Server (12.04) in an IBM x3650 Server? Should I expect compatibility?
[23:41] <jonzobrist> izanagisan, I run Ubuntu 12.04 (and 10.04 LTS) on IBM x3550's (about 50 of them) and have never had any problems
[23:44] <izanagisan> jonzobrist: that's really nice to know
[23:45] <jonzobrist> IBM has huge investments in Linux, and I would expect everything they make hardware wise to run Linux well
[23:45] <izanagisan> by the way, as a complete server and IBM noob, do you happen to know where can I find abundant and clear documentation on their servers?. I also have 1 x3650 M3 in which I want to set up RAID and install Ubuntu Server, but I've been really bad at finding instructions to set the system up
[23:46] <sarnold> izanagisan: have you found this yet? nothing specific to your hardware, but hopefully useful nonetheless: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[23:48] <izanagisan> sarnold: hadn't seen that guide. Seems quite conprehensive. Thank you very much


[13:34] <B13B> anyone here with experience on ubuntu-arm and the nexus 7?
[13:39] <davmor2> B13B: ask your question and people who might know the answer can respond
[13:45] <B13B> I'm doing $ fastboot oem unlock from terminal, but it keeps getting stuck on  < waiting for device >
[13:46] <B13B> my nexus 7 is in fastboot mode, with usb debugging on
[13:46] <B13B> is there a step I missed?
[14:03] <infinity> B13B: Does "fastboot devices" list your device?
[14:03] <ogra_> you might need sudo
[14:04] <ogra_> (depending if anything ships udev rules for the device or not)
[14:05] <B13B> ogra_: Sudo worked nicely, thanks!


[15:01] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:01] <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
[15:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-02/
[15:02] <juliank> Most forgot so I guess um 5 minutes only today because not much to read
[15:03]  * juliank has blacked out a bit as to what happened this week
[15:04] <juliank> Holiday yesterday sure did not help
[15:04] <bdrung> lost all memory after first of May?
[15:04] <juliank> yeah
[15:06] <juliank> Questions, comments, additional memories recovered?
[15:07] <bdrung> Recovered memory: I worked on the sponsoring report generation.
[15:07] <juliank> When can we finally get https again for reports.qa.ubuntu.com? This is adding minutes of extra effort trying to convince firefox with https forced to downgrade
[15:07] <dbungert> mateus-morais: "are not Canonical owned" - I assume that should be "are now Canonical owned" ?
[15:08] <vorlon> juliank: you probably need to ask Brian to follow up on this
[15:08] <mateus-morais> dbungert: oops, yeah, fixing now, thanks!
[15:08] <juliank> vorlon: yeah
[15:08] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:08] <bdrung> juliank, when we setup letsencrypt (in a session in Madrid?)
[15:09] <juliank> We do not have oo yet
[15:09] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:09] <juliank> bug 2061214 I should untag, sorry
[15:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2061214 in software-properties (Ubuntu Noble) "[SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822" [Critical, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2061214
[15:09] <juliank> (that was the software-properties-qt shenanigan)
[15:10] <juliank> vorlon: I suppose we can delete src:software-properties-qt in oracular now, should be superseded by new binary software-properties-qt from software-properties
[15:10] <vorlon> sure, checking
[15:10] <juliank> bug 2063094 so far we don't have actionable intel on, waiting for it to happen to me or tracking
[15:11] <juliank> ubottu: .
[15:11] <juliank> It dead
[15:11] <juliank> Oh I guess Launchpad is the one that is dead
[15:11] <vorlon> juliank: it's not superseded yet, software-properties 0.99.49 is still in -proposed
[15:11] <juliank> ah
[15:11] <juliank> let's try again
[15:11] <juliank> bug 2063094 so far we don't have actionable intel on, waiting for it to happen to me or tracking
[15:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063094 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrades is running forever" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2063094
[15:12] <juliank> (seb is collecting data it happens a lot to him)
[15:12] <juliank> bug 2063128
[15:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063128 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from mantic to noble shows a debconf prompt" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2063128
[15:13] <vorlon> should be fixed in the package popping the prompt, not worked around in u-r-u
[15:13] <vorlon> so decline
[15:13] <juliank> ah so if it is a new prompt we should not ask it on upgrades
[15:14] <juliank> launchpad is not responsive
[15:14] <vorlon> it is for me
[15:14] <vorlon> I've commented the bug and marked the u-r-u task wontfix
[15:15] <juliank> I think I marked it Invalid after that
[15:15] <juliank> But some loads take ages
[15:15] <juliank> Let me set it back
[15:15] <vorlon> oh ok.  also I lied I marked it invalid not wontfix ;)
[15:16] <juliank> heh
[15:16] <juliank> Anyway
[15:16] <juliank> bug 2060326
[15:16] <juliank> See ubottu has trouble too
[15:16] <juliank> bug 2060326
[15:16] <juliank> bug 2060326
[15:16] <juliank> " unattended-upgrades is running forever "
[15:16] <juliank> probably a duplicate of Brian's bug
[15:17] <vorlon> NOW launchpad is unresponsive for me
[15:17] <juliank> oh sorry it says " unnattended upgrades stuck burning 100% cpu "
[15:17] <vorlon> we should take it
[15:18] <vorlon> and if we figure out it's a dupe, ok
[15:18] <juliank> I just mark it as a dupe, it quite clearly is one and we can dedup later
[15:18] <juliank> but we need to get needs information
[15:18] <vorlon> ok
[15:20] <juliank> mm has nothing new, just the desktop bugs
[15:20] <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:20] <juliank> bug 2058743
[15:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2058743 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd local DNS tests failing with timeout" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2058743
[15:20] <xypron> unattended-upgrades is really taking long time on embedded boards.
[15:20] <juliank> taking a long time != not finishing
[15:21] <xypron> hours
[15:21] <juliank> and we can relatively trivially make it a lot faster fwiw
[15:21] <xypron> I just dropped it for cron-apt running when I sleep.
[15:21] <juliank> We just don't use action groups right now, but neither do we use the new inhibit action group feature
[15:22] <juliank> i.e. a lot of time is spent after each mark_install() call for each upgradable package to figure out which packages are now autoremovable
[15:23] <juliank> The new API I need to expose then we can use it
[15:23] <juliank> or we just keep a continuous action group when we open the cache, though it might not be enough
[15:23] <juliank> (it has its own internal one?)
[15:23] <juliank> Anyway
[15:23] <juliank> systemd loocal dns tests failing
[15:23] <juliank> slyon was talking to smb on the bug
[15:24] <juliank> but nothing new there
[15:24] <juliank> And ff is empty so I suppose that wraps up bugs
[15:24] <juliank> I'll try to have a look at unattended-upgrades upstream status, the whole thing is weirdly still maintained by mvo
[15:25] <juliank> he released a 2.10 but it ftbfs
[15:25] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:25] <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:25] <juliank> vorlon: do migration or skip?
[15:26] <vorlon> we can do it
[15:26] <juliank> We can do grey items
[15:26] <juliank> :)
[15:26] <vorlon> oracular is open
[15:26] <vorlon> nah that's generally not a good use of time
[15:27] <juliank> well then fwupd-signed should be removed; nullboot I need to talk to gjolly if we can ship that for oracular now
[15:27] <vorlon> "should be removed" why?
[15:27] <juliank> and software-properties I guess needs retries
[15:27] <vorlon> (can do, just want to know the reason)
[15:27] <juliank> vorlon: it was a wrongly uploaded rebuild of mine
[15:27] <vorlon> ok
[15:27] <vorlon> done
[15:28] <vorlon> ok so probably nothing to actually assign out here
[15:28] <juliank> vorlon: So software-properties needs to be force-skiptested because it fails with software-properties-qt
[15:28] <vorlon> yeah, will hint
[15:28] <vorlon> done
[15:28] <juliank> thanks
[15:28] <juliank> #topic AOB
[15:28] <juliank> That leaves any otter business
[15:29] <juliank> 🦦
[15:29] <Skia> wow, I had never seen an otter in my terminal yet
[15:33] <juliank> mkukri: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/2057679 still needs verification
[15:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2057679 in grub2-unsigned (Ubuntu Mantic) "systemd-stub fails to boot when loaded via peimage" [Undecided, Fix Committed]
[15:34] <juliank> #endmeeting
[15:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:34:34 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-05-02-15.01.moin.txt
[15:36] <mkukri> juliank: i think i have done that, just forgot to update both pages, but this was long enough ago that i wouldnt go 100% on that, so will repeat it then tag


[10:38] <dalum> Hi! Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but there's a 15 year old wiki page about me with some personal information on the Ubuntu Wiki that I would like to have deleted, and I don't seem to have access to edit or delete it myself. Any suggestions on what to do?


[08:16] <tjaalton> ricotz: thanks, though it's actually less work for me to just merge using git ;)
[08:17] <tjaalton> since it'll already include the changes, it's just the changelog entry that needs mangling
[08:18] <tjaalton> and I'd really like to get rid of klingon/latin
[08:41] <ricotz> tjaalton, ok, so no credits for then ;)
[08:42] <ricotz> yes, removing some delta could even lead to syncing it
[12:10] <Prf_Jakob> Hey people, I know I have asked this before and it isn't entierly the correct forum but does anybody know which kernel version is going into 11.04?
[12:11] <Prf_Jakob> Err 12.04..
[12:13] <RAOF> Prf_Jakob: Do you mean 11.10 or 12.04?  11.10 will have 3.0; 12.04 will have... something.  Probably 3.2 or 3.3, I'd guess.
[12:13] <Prf_Jakob> 12.04*
[12:13] <Prf_Jakob> RAOF: ok thanks...
[12:14] <Prf_Jakob> 3.3 looks a bit close.
[17:02] <tjaalton> ricotz: i can still credit you for poking me ;)
[17:15] <ricotz> tjaalton, alright ;)
[17:20] <bryceh> morning
[17:20] <Sarvatt> heyo bryce!
[17:21] <Sarvatt> back already?
[17:21] <bryceh> yep
[17:21] <tjaalton> bryceh: congrats :)
[17:21] <bryceh> tjaalton, thanks!
[17:22] <bryceh> coming back to work feels like I'm taking a vacation from paternity leave ;-)
[17:22] <tjaalton> hehe
[17:22] <tjaalton> "relaxing", wasn't it ;
[17:22] <tjaalton> ;)
[17:23] <bryceh> it had it's moments!
[17:30] <bryceh> Sarvatt, tjaalton, so what's new?
[17:32] <tjaalton> bryceh: nothing special I guess, oneiric is pretty boring xorg-wise ;)
[17:32] <tjaalton> mesa 7.11 final was uploaded though
[17:32] <tjaalton> by RAOF
[17:32] <bryceh> good
[17:33] <tjaalton> oh and bug 820370 probably means that the failsafe conffiles should probably be removed in preinst after all?
[17:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 820370 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Tries and fails to remove /etc/gdm (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820370
[17:38] <bryceh> tjaalton, okay yeah could be
[17:38] <bryceh> tjaalton, would you mind making those updates?  You know those way better than me
[17:38] <tjaalton> bryceh: yeah, I could
[17:43] <bryceh> tjaalton, thanks
[19:41] <cnd> bryceh, Sarvatt, RAOF: I'm trolling for a core-dev to upload a new version of utouch-qml, which isn't in the utouch package set yet (so I can't upload it myself)
[19:42] <Sarvatt> cnd: I'm not even a MOTU or PPU, think ya meant tjaalton instead of Sarvatt there :P
[19:42] <cnd> Sarvatt, oh, sad to hear that...
[19:42] <cnd> Sarvatt, I'd be happy to endorse if you are going for it
[19:43] <cnd> I didn't bother with tjaalton because I figure he's probably in bed by now :)
[19:44] <tjaalton> not in bed, but moving my arse to the couch instead ;)
[19:45] <cnd> tjaalton, well, you are welcome to help, but I figure it's outside your work hours so feel free to pass :)
[19:45] <cnd> it's not urgent
[19:45] <tjaalton> ok, I can have a look in the morning unless bryceh beats me to it
[19:47] <cnd> k
[19:47] <Sarvatt> cnd: well when I do it'll be for an X package set, nothing else really fits and you haven't sponsored anything for me there :P by then you might though and I'll look you up, appreciate that!
[19:47] <cnd> tjaalton, it's in lp:utouch-qml/ubuntu
[19:48] <cnd> Sarvatt, I guess I was assuming you've sponsored stuff for me
[19:48] <cnd> which doesn't make sense in hindsight :)
[19:48] <cnd> it seems like you've helped me out somehwere though, I just can't remember
[19:49] <cnd> but maybe I'm just mixing things up
[20:48] <bryceh> cnd, done
[20:48] <cnd> bryceh, awesome1
[20:48] <cnd> !
[20:48] <cnd> thanks
[20:48] <cnd> bryceh, are you still on leave?
[20:49] <cnd> I feel bad pinging you if you are still on leave
[20:49] <bryceh> nope, today's first day back
[20:49] <cnd> ok
[20:49] <cnd> I hope things are going well
[20:49] <cnd> and congrats if I haven't said so yet :)
[20:49] <bryceh> cnd, oh thanks!
[20:51] <bryceh> cnd, was a good exercise to figure out why my oneiric pbuilder wasn't working
[20:51] <cnd> bryceh, you have an oneiric pbuilder!
[20:51] <cnd> ?
[20:51] <cnd> I can't figure out how to create one
[20:52] <bryceh> yep, I have pbuilders for all releases
[20:52] <cnd> every time I try I hit a bug (I think it's a bug in debootstrap)
[20:52] <tjaalton> bug 805886
[20:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 805886 in util-linux (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "/proc does not get umounted after debootstrap (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 54)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/805886
[20:52] <cnd> tjaalton, yep, that's the one
[20:52] <tjaalton> pretty annoying
[20:52] <cnd> tjaalton, is there a workaround?
[20:52] <cnd> or bryceh, how did you build one?
[20:53] <tjaalton> cnd: dunno, haven't looked at it closer
[20:53] <tjaalton> yet
[20:53] <bryceh> hmm, built it when oneiric first opened
[20:53] <cnd> I currently rely on building locally and checking if the daily build recipe succeeds
[20:53] <tjaalton> cnd: well, downgrade util-linux should be enough
[20:54] <bryceh> I recall having to do `pbuilder login --save-after-login` and fiddle around a bit to get it working
[20:54] <cnd> tjaalton, I believe I tried that
[20:54] <cnd> and it still failed
[20:54] <tjaalton> ok
[20:57] <bryceh> cnd, that bug # doesn't look familiar, maybe I'm just lucky
[20:58] <bryceh> or maybe having built the pbuilder early on I don't have the bugged mount
[21:00] <cnd> maybe
[21:00] <cnd> bryceh, I nominate that you fix it
[21:00] <cnd> that's how open source works right?
[21:00] <cnd> :)
[21:01]  * cnd holds the open source bug fix nomination wand tightly
[21:04] <Sarvatt> RAOF: so ya decided to ship st/gbm in 7.11 instead of --disable-gallium-gbm?
[21:04] <Sarvatt> all the pipe drivers
[21:05] <bryceh> cnd, I'll delegate to the X canonical person able to reproduce the bug
[21:06] <cnd> rats
[21:06] <bryceh> O:-)
[21:06] <bryceh> cnd, but anyway is it fixable if you log into the pbuilder chroot with the cmd I mentioned above?
[21:07] <cnd> bryceh, I can't build a pbuilder chroot in the first place
[21:07] <cnd> so I can't get to that point
[21:07] <cnd> unless there's some command that says "don't delete on error"
[21:07] <bryceh> ahh
[21:08] <bryceh> ok so then definitely I escaped it by building my pbuilder before all this came about
[21:08] <cnd> ok
[21:09] <bryceh> most workarounds I can think of at the moment are probably too much trouble to do
[21:09] <bryceh> like creating a natty pbuilder and then upgrading it
[21:10] <bryceh> cnd, are you creating your pbuilder on a oneiric host or natty?
[21:10] <cnd> oneiric
[21:10] <bryceh> I'm doing it on a natty host; perhaps it's the host version of mount that matters?
[21:10] <cnd> I don't know how to create it correctly on a different host
[21:10] <cnd> I've tried, but it seems to get hosed somewhere
[21:10] <cnd> if you know how to do it, please do tell :)
[21:10] <bryceh> cnd, did you try the workaroudn of downgrading util-linux?
[21:10] <cnd> then maybe I can copy it to my oneiric host
[21:10] <cnd> I did, but it didn't help
[21:47] <RAOF> bryceh: Welcome back!
[21:47] <bryceh> RAOF, hey thanks!
[21:47] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Yeah, might as well ship st/gbm; EGL isn't (or won't be) on the CD, so the extra space is meh.
[21:51] <RAOF> bryceh: Oooh, before I upload a new wayland/mesa - was there some reason that you restricted wayland to i386, amd64, armel?  I don't know of any reason why it wouldn't be useful on any arch (even debian/hurd!).
[21:52] <bryceh> RAOF, it was taking forever to build on ppc, so I dropped all archs except the ones I specifically thought it would be valid for
[21:53] <bryceh> no reason aside from that.  Feel free to restore the missing archs if you think there's value to having them
[21:54] <RAOF> Heh.  Well, it makes mesa packaging slightly less annoying, as I won't have to special-case wayland support for !i386 !amd64 !armel.
[22:15] <ricotz> RAOF, hello, it seems the dependency of libegl1-mesa on libwayland0 is too strict
[22:16] <RAOF> ricotz: No, it's deliberately that strict.
[22:16] <RAOF> Because there's not yet any API or ABI guarantees on libwayland, we're being cautious.
[22:16] <ricotz> RAOF, oh, ok
[22:17] <RAOF> Wait for mesa_7.11-0ubuntu2 to build and then everything will be installable again.
[22:18] <ricotz> i see, making a better snapshot version would help
[22:18] <ricotz> RAOF, yeah, i am using the edgers versions
[22:19] <ricotz> Sarvatt, might be useful to loosen this dep a bit for the ppa
[22:21] <RAOF> The dependency information is in the libwayland package; it's not trivial for -edgers to relax that.
[22:21] <RAOF> Having said that, I also don't expect there to be lots of wayland updates.
[22:22] <ricotz> hmm, bad timing then ;)
[22:22] <ricotz> the current edgers build depends on ubuntu2 now
[22:24] <RAOF> Yeah.  It just needs a rebuild.
[22:28] <RAOF> Or, I guess, you could not install EGL support :)
[22:31] <ricotz> RAOF, this might be a bit difficult -- libcairo2 ;)
[22:31] <RAOF> Oh, yeah.
[22:32] <RAOF> That'll go away at some point.
[22:33] <ricotz> i hope so, seems the cairo-gl backend make a lot problems
[22:34] <bryceh> yep
[22:36] <RAOF> Thinking of which - the next thing to do with wayland is upload a new wayland-demos package, right?  Would you like me to do that?
[22:38] <bryceh> RAOF, is libwayland in main yet?
[22:39] <RAOF> bryceh: Yup.  I got that squared away last week.  Mesa now builds the wayland-egl backend.
[22:39] <bryceh> RAOF, excellent.  I've actually got the wayland-demos package ready to go, I'll take care of uploading it
[22:43] <bryceh> RAOF, did you have anything to add to the package beyond syncing from debian?
[22:43] <RAOF> bryceh: Which package?  wayland-demos?
[22:44] <bryceh> RAOF, yep
[22:44] <RAOF> Oh, I hadn't really looked at it :)
[23:20] <Sarvatt> ricotz: whats up? just need a mesa no change rebuild or need me to relax dependencies in mesa?
[23:23] <RAOF> Sarvatt: New libwayland means mesa needs a rebuild.
[23:23] <Sarvatt> gotcha, doing now
[23:26] <RAOF> And, in general, each wayland upload will requrie a rebuild of mesa.
[23:28] <ricotz> Sarvatt, ok, thanks, the natty wayland package is fine since there were no ppa relevant changes
[23:29] <Sarvatt> thanks for the heads up, i'll keep an eye on wayland uploads then. haven't been following it to be honest
[23:29]  * Sarvatt installs so he notices the brokenness :)
[23:30] <RAOF> Well, you're guaranteed to notice the brokenness now that mesa actually uses it ;)
[23:39] <bryceh> should we consider including wayland snapshots in edgers?
[23:39] <bryceh> or would that be more trouble than worth at this point
[23:48] <Sarvatt> i'm overwhelmed with the other updates in there to be honest, with ivybridge so close I'm not sure thats going to change anytime soon
[23:50]  * Sarvatt got 4 new machines to work on in the past week
[23:55] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Speaking of ivybridge, what was the problem with 2.15.901 you were having?  Everything seems to be peachy here, although I should probably install gdm to actually see if the bgnone thing is working properly; lightdm still doesn't seem to do it.
[23:55] <Sarvatt> 101_copy_fb.patch needs fixing to apply to it?
[23:56] <Sarvatt> ya disable it to build or were you using edgers?
[23:56] <RAOF> I refreshed it :)
[23:56] <Sarvatt> woohoo!
[23:56] <Sarvatt> that was it
[23:56] <RAOF> It didn't require anything particularly special, but perhaps that's because I know what it does :)
[23:56]  * Sarvatt owes RAOF a beer if he can drag him away from the board games
[23:56] <Sarvatt> :P
[23:58] <RAOF> Actually, now that I look at it again I can simplify it a bunch.  It looks like intel_batch_submit no longer references the screen pixmap, which was what the intel_batch_buffer_submit_internal thing was about.
[23:59] <RAOF> Or, alternatively, I guess uxa could be setting the screen pixmap earlier.  Investimagation time!


[08:21] <venus_> hello
[08:21] <venus_> anyone here for help ?
[08:33] <benonsoftware> I am....
[08:51]  * Noskcaj wonders why no one stays long enough to get an answer


[01:21] <m3ga> i'm trying to run maverick in a chroot on a debian base system. installing procps i get 'Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused' which is hardly surprising.
[01:26] <h00k> So, was asked to test something upstream using the mainline kernel. Is it proper to grab the deb or install the linux-generic-metapackage
[01:41] <yofel> h00k: afaik the mainline kernels don't even have a meta package, as there's no archive to add, just download the .deb
[01:41] <h00k> yofel: that's what I decided to do.
[01:41] <h00k> this is regarding the bug I have against btrfs on a SSD
[01:51] <h00k> are btrfs-tools available now on the daily lives, or only the alternate CD?
[01:53] <h00k> whatever, I'll install them from the live disk
[02:01] <Jordan_U> h00k: BTW, the slowness of dpkg with btrfs has something to do with fsync, using libeatmydata with dpkg sped things up by orders of magnitude for me.
[02:04] <h00k> Jordan_U: can you add that to the bug report, or is there already one with that information?
[02:05] <h00k> Jordan_U: and is that an upstream issue?
[02:05] <h00k> bug 600846
[02:06] <Jordan_U> h00k: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588254
[02:13] <yofel> debian 584254
[02:14] <h00k> ahha.
[02:15] <h00k> Now, this doesn't appear to only be a dpkg problem for me.
[02:15] <h00k> This is...if I have too many disk activities at one time, I get crappy speeds.
[02:34] <h00k> So, is there another trick I can use to be able to resize btrfs from gparted in a live session? I did install btrfs-tools
[03:36] <lukehasnoname> Where would I tell a developer or packager about package dependency issues in Maverick?
[03:37] <lukehasnoname> Apparently, it's not considered a bug to have broken package dependencies in the +1
[04:01] <ripps> what's taking so long to get linux-image-2.6.35-7 out of New queue?
[06:10] <bp0> so how is alpha2?
[06:10] <rsk> um.. out?
[06:11] <bp0> yes. but how is it?
[06:16] <mheath> I wish I could tell you :( I'm fighting some broken dependency glitch trying to upgrade.
[06:17] <bp0> well thats a useful answer, thanks
[06:17] <bp0> sorry about your trouble
[06:21] <mheath> bp0: Most of the reviews and information I've seen on Alpha 2 have been along hte lines of "really, really promising, but broken and worthless at the moment."
[06:22] <mheath> Which is pretty much what you'd expect from an alpha 2
[06:24] <ripps> someone uploaded the linux-meta source before the linux kernel got passed through the binary-new queue. Thus, causing issues for those trying to upgrade their kernel.
[06:25] <ripps> As of right now, it's still sitting in the new queue.
[06:28] <mheath> ripps: thanks! that clears that up.
[06:28] <mheath> I'd figured it was something like that......I've learned if upgrades to Alpha don't work, to try again the next day
[06:29] <ripps> this stuff isn't suppose to happen, somebody was asleep at the keyboard when they uploaded the linux-meta source. they're supposed to wait until all the linux-image packages are finished.
[06:42] <bp0> mheath, do you run the alpha as your main os?
[06:42] <mheath> Nope.
[06:52] <jan-pieter> I update ubuntu today and the update did something with a device map of grub and now grub doesn't work anymore. Can someone help me fix this?
[06:53] <bp0> maybe
[06:53] <bp0> what happens
[06:53] <jan-pieter> Oh yeah. Grub complains about not finding a symbol and I end up in rescue mode
[06:53] <bp0> the grub shell?
[06:54] <jan-pieter> it is like a cli
[06:55] <jan-pieter> I can type commands but I don't have a clue what I am supposed to do
[06:56] <bp0> easy fix may be to use grub super disk to boot into your linux install and grub-update
[06:56] <bp0> or update-grub
[06:58] <jan-pieter> thank. I'm now in the 9.10 liveCD. Could I do it from there?
[06:59] <bp0> yes
[07:00] <jan-pieter> OK thanks very much :p
[07:00] <bp0> but...
[07:00] <bp0> you must specify the root
[07:00] <bp0> one moment
[07:01] <bp0> you must mount the partition, then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/Blah /dev/sda
[07:02] <bp0> where /media/blah is the place it mounted, and /dev/sda is the disk you want to reinstall grub on
[07:04] <jan-pieter> bp0: Yeah figured that out after a quick search on google :p
[09:35] <BUGabundo_remote> morning, Turtles
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote> me and my big mouth
[09:53] <BUGabundo_remote> today X is even sloweeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:10] <BUGabundo_remote> is there a way to debug this X timeouts?
[10:11] <BUGabundo_remote> some of my apps just FREEZE in the screen
[10:11] <BUGabundo_remote> making it unberable to use my laptop at the moment
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> come one guys
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> help me out here
[10:18]  * vish hands BUGabundo_remote a brick ;)
[10:25]  * BUGabundo_remote kicks vish where it hurts
[10:25] <BUGabundo_remote> even righting this messagetakes tooooo long... nothing on screen refreshes :(
[10:25] <vish> :D
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> doh
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> found the cause
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> dbus and gconf
[10:38] <BUGabundo_remote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/460563/
[10:56] <BUGabundo_remote> come one... 200+ idlers in here
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> some one must know something about dbus and/or gconf
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> need to debug this asapm and file a bug
[10:57] <BUGabundo_remote> a critical oone too
[11:17] <Jordan_U> BUGabundo_remote: Perhaps the fastest way to get an answer would be just to file the bug report :)
[11:18] <Jordan_U> BUGabundo_remote: But don't mark it as critical untill you've actually read the criterion for that severity level.
[12:50] <DrHalan> new kernels are building?
[13:51] <BUGabundo_remote> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/603080
[14:42] <TommyThaGun> how is the new kernel working? is it going to crash my system?
[14:44] <Pici> maybe
[14:47] <jpds> Only one way to find out.
[14:55] <TommyThaGun> :-(
[14:55] <TommyThaGun> I guess I'll find out in a few minutes
[15:10] <Draglor> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[15:10] <Draglor> System:    Host LiWoS Kernel 2.6.32-24-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[15:10] <Draglor> CPU:       Dual core Intel T2300 (SMP) clocked at 1000.00 MHz
[15:10] <Draglor> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller tty res: N/A
[15:10] <Draglor> Disks:     HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (39.1% used)
[15:10] <Draglor> Info:      Processes 201 Uptime 1 day Memory 589.0/993.1MB Runlevel 2 Client Quassel [M] v0.6.1 (dist-611ebcc) inxi 1.4.8
[15:10] <Draglor> inxi supports the following options.  Scheme number is required.
[15:10] <Draglor>     Supported schemes: 0-15 Example: inxi -c 11
[15:10] <Draglor> -C  Show full CPU output, including per CPU clockspeed.
[15:10] <Draglor> -d  Default output verbosity level, same as: inxi -v 1
[15:10] <Draglor> -D  Show full hard Disk info, not only model, ie: /dev/sda ST380817AS 80.0GB.
[15:10] <Draglor> -f  Show all cpu flags used, not just the short list. Not shown with -F to avoid spamming.
[15:10] <Draglor> -F  Show Full output for inxi. Does not show extra verbose options like -f -u -l -o -p or -t
[15:10] <Draglor> -G  Show Graphic card information (card, x type, resolution, glx renderer, version).
[15:10] <Draglor> -i  Show Wan IP address, and shows local interfaces (requires ifconfig network tool).
[15:10] <Draglor>     Not shown with -F for user security reasons, you shouldn't paste your local/wan IP.
[15:11] <Draglor> -I  Show Information: processes, uptime, memory, irc client, inxi version.
[15:11] <Draglor> -l  Show partition labels. Default: short partition -P. For full -p output, use: -pl (or -plu).
[15:11] <Draglor> -N  Show Network card information.
[15:11] <Draglor> -o  Show unmounted partition information (includes UUID and LABEL if available).
[15:11] <Draglor>     Shows file system type if you have file installed, if you are root OR if you have
[15:11] <Draglor>     added to /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer): <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/file (sample)
[15:11] <Draglor> -p  Show full partition information (-P plus all other detected partitions).
[15:11] <Draglor> -P  Show Partition information (shows what -v 4 would show, but without extra data).
[15:11] <Draglor>     Shows, if detected: / /boot /home /tmp /usr /var. Use -p to see all mounted partitions.
[15:11] <Draglor> -r  Show distro repository data. Currently supported repo types: APT; PACMAN; PISI; YUM.
[15:11] <Draglor> -s  Show sensors output (if sensors installed/configured): mobo/cpu/gpu temp; detected fan speeds.
[15:11] <Draglor>     Gpu temp only for Fglrx/Nvidia drivers. Nvidia shows screen number for > 1 screens.
[15:11] <Draglor> -S  Show System information: host name, kernel, distro
[15:11] <Draglor> -t  Show processes. Requires extra options: c (cpu) m (memory) cm (cpu+memory). If followed by numbers 1-20,
[15:11] <Draglor>     shows that number of processes for each type (default: 5; if in irc, max: 5): -t cm10
[15:11] <Draglor>     Make sure to have no space between letters and numbers (-t cm10 -right, -t cm 10 -wrong).
[15:11] <Draglor> -u  Show partition UUIDs. Default: short partition -P. For full -p output, use: -pu (or -plu).
[15:11] <Draglor> -v  Script verbosity levels. Verbosity level number is required.
[15:11] <Draglor>     Supported levels: 0-5 Example: inxi -v 4
[15:11] <Draglor>     0 - short output, same as: inxi
[15:11] <Draglor>     1 - basic verbose, same as: inxi -d
[15:11] <Draglor>     2 - Also show networking card data
[15:11] <Draglor>     3 - Also show hard disk names as detected.
[15:11] <Draglor>     4 - Also show partition size/filled data for (if present):/, /home, /var/, /boot
[15:11] <Draglor>     5 - For multicore systems, also shows: per core clock speeds; audio card; full disk data.
[15:11] <Draglor> -x  Show extra data: bogomips on Cpu; driver version (if available) for Network/Audio;
[15:11] <Draglor>     for network, audio cards, shows PCI Bus ID number also;
[15:12] <Draglor>     direct rendering status for Graphics (in X). Only works with verbose or line output;
[15:12] <Draglor>     shows (for single gpu, nvidia driver) screen number gpu is running on.
[15:12] <Draglor>     Shows hdd temp with disk data if you have hddtemp installed, if you are root OR if you have
[15:12] <Draglor>     added to /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer): <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hddtemp (sample)
[15:12] <Draglor>     For -t, adds memory use output to cpu (-tx c, and cpu use to memory (-tx m).
[15:12] <gnomefreak> Draglor: stop
[15:12] <Draglor> Additional Options:
[15:12] <Draglor> -h - this help menu.
[15:12] <Draglor> -U  Auto-update script. Note: if you installed as root, you
[15:12] <Draglor>     must be root to update, otherwise user is fine.
[15:12] <Draglor> -V  inxi version information. Prints information then exits.
[15:12] <Draglor> -%  Overrides defective or corrupted data.
[15:12] <Draglor> -@  Triggers debugger output. Requires debugging level 1-10 (8-10 - logging).
[15:21] <om26er> woho
[16:56] <tj83|work> hello guys, I dont know if anyone here is familiar with the GPS depreciated packages in lucid. for an LTS this is kinda disturbing. Anyone know how the GPS scene is in 10.10?   How is Alpha 2 coming along? I'm getting a new device and really wanted to use Lucid, but GPS is one of my main demands. I'll give 10.10 alpha a try, major known issues?
[17:09] <DrHalan> new kernel still not uploaded?
[17:11] <gnomefreak> if you mean linux-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.8 it has been uploaded
[17:12] <gnomefreak> i got that update >4 hours
[17:14] <DrHalan> well i still  ahve 2.6.35-6 and my linux-generic is hold back
[17:14] <DrHalan> according to launchpad there is 2.6-35-11 uploaded
[17:15] <DrHalan> or 7.11 i think
[17:15] <DrHalan> since when is there a fith digit?
[17:17] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:17] <gnomefreak> it will install the updated kernel
[17:18] <gnomefreak> or use update-manager, but these are things you should know before trying an Alpha version
[17:18] <DrHalan> yeah sure
[17:18] <DrHalan> i know how that works ^^
[17:18] <DrHalan> but dist-upgrade tells me
[17:19] <DrHalan> teh following packages were hold back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:19] <DrHalan> what architecture are you using gnomefreak?
[17:19] <gnomefreak> what happens if you try to use sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[17:19] <gnomefreak> DrHalan: i dont use a CC
[17:20] <DrHalan> i gues it will say the dependencies are not avaible
[17:20] <gnomefreak> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted   and so on
[17:20] <DrHalan> yeah it says "unresolved dependecies"
[17:21] <gnomefreak> and they would be?
[17:21] <DrHalan> linux-image-2.6.35-7-generic + headers
[17:22] <gnomefreak> use the mirrors i am. i had no issue at all.
[17:23] <gnomefreak> linux-image-2.6.35-7-generic: Installed: 2.6.35-7.11 Candidate: 2.6.35-7.11
[17:24]  * gnomefreak goes back to work :)
[17:24] <jpds> DrHalan: You might want to use de.archive.u.c.
[17:26] <DrHalan> its alreay set to the german servers as im from germany
[17:26] <DrHalan> maybe its just no built yet on amd64?
[17:30] <jpds> DrHalan: It should do there within the next few hours.
[17:32] <DrHalan> its really difficult to find specific kernel packages in launchpad imo
[17:41] <yofel> DrHalan: really? they're all listed on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux though
[17:42] <patdk-wk> heh, way too general :)
[17:42] <patdk-wk> he only wanted one :)
[17:44] <yofel> well, they need to put all that info somewhere :P
[17:51] <DrHalan> inst that the meta packge
[17:51] <DrHalan> and not the actual kernel images?
[18:00] <yofel> DrHalan: press on the arrow beside the version you need and you'll get the list of binary packages
[18:00] <yofel> a rather long list for the kernel...
[18:18] <tntc> are any of the radeon power managment features in the 2.6.35 Maverick kernel?
[21:53] <DrHalan> the new kernel feels a lot faster to me :)
[22:21] <knittl> i get frequent lock ups of X with nouveau. mouse still moves, but everything else is frozen, and i cannot click or use my keyboard
[22:30] <DrHalan> knittl: i have something smiliar except my keyboard works
[22:30] <DrHalan> means i can close windows with my keyboard an navigate a little...
[22:30] <DrHalan> but i cannot click anyhting
[22:31] <knittl> DrHalan: my screen freezes
[22:31] <knittl> everything except mouse cursor
[22:31] <DrHalan> okay
[22:31] <DrHalan> then its a little different
[22:31] <DrHalan> does nvidia-current work fine?
[22:32] <knittl> dunno
[22:32] <knittl> but i only have this problem since i switched to nouveau
[22:33] <DrHalan> mh okay
[22:33] <DrHalan> i have no clue
[22:33] <DrHalan> does restarting gdm work?
[22:33] <DrHalan> its alt+k+print or so
[22:33] <knittl> how can i restart gdm?
[22:33] <knittl> no, it does not
[22:33] <knittl> then i only have gibberish on my screen
[22:33] <DrHalan> wait some time..
[22:34] <knittl> i did
[22:34] <DrHalan> oh okay
[22:34] <DrHalan> well i hav eno clue then
[22:34] <DrHalan> maybe go back to nvidia-current? :P
[22:34] <knittl> dualscreen works better with nouveau
[22:35] <knittl> but suspend won't work with nouveau either
[22:35] <DrHalan> oh mh well i am not an expert in that topic
[22:36] <DrHalan> i am just wondering if tis a kernel or a xserver issue
[22:39] <knittl> really no idea


[10:19] <mamarley> ricotz: Both of the driver updates from yesterday are uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages.
[10:58] <ricotz> mamarley, will take a look soon
[11:26] <soee> i'm using the latest and works fine :)
[11:53] <ricotz> mamarley, copied :)
[11:59] <mamarley> Awesome, thanks!
[14:03] <tseliot> mamarley: I'm going to re-use your tarball then
[14:03] <tseliot> for 375
[14:03] <mamarley> OK :)
[14:03] <tseliot> mamarley: BTW have you done any work on GLVND?
[14:04] <tseliot> as I am going to push those changes for 17.10
[14:04] <mamarley> tseliot: No, nothing beyond what I had to do to keep the full functionality of the driver working.
[14:04] <tseliot> mamarley: ok, I'll let you know guys when the changes are ready
[14:04] <mamarley> OK
[14:12] <ricotz> tseliot, did libglvnd got NEWed finally?
[14:13] <tseliot> tjaalton: ^
[14:15] <ricotz> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/libglvnd_0.2.999+git20170201-3.html
[14:24] <tjaalton> it's been there since may
[14:33] <tjaalton> so nothing new
[14:38] <tseliot> tjaalton: BTW nvidia only needs to depend on libglvnd0, right? The rest seems to pull in mesa
[14:39] <tseliot> or is there any "provide" field that I have to add?
[14:50] <tjaalton> can't remember offhand :)
[14:51] <tjaalton> i'll check next week when i'm back (again)
[14:51] <tjaalton> but could be yeah..
[14:55] <tjaalton> actually need to provide lib{egl,glx}-vendor
[14:59] <tseliot> ok
[15:00] <tseliot> I'll also have to get rid of the alternatives thing, as nothing seems to work right now
[15:00] <tjaalton> it's not needed anymore with this
[15:01] <tjaalton> dropped from mesa too
[15:01] <tjaalton> i mean the ldconfig path hacks
[15:01] <tseliot> right
[15:02] <tseliot> I need to test if this breaks hybrid graphics on x11
[15:02] <tjaalton> it still needs the server side thing from nvidia/ajax to make hybrids work properly, maybe for 1.20 and 18.04
[15:03] <tjaalton> properly meaning letting both work at the same time
[15:03] <tjaalton> yeah not sure if there are some hacks still needed
[15:09] <tseliot> tjaalton: did you also get rid of the glamoregl alternative?
[15:09] <tseliot> as glamor doesn't play well with nvidia
[15:13] <tjaalton> tseliot: i don't see that in the current distro package
[15:14] <tjaalton> so if something like that existed it's long gone
[15:14] <tseliot> it must be something that's only in nvidia
[15:14] <tseliot> fair enough


[01:38] <cjohnston> mhall119: where are the meeting minutes for mootbot going to be stored, and would it not be better to have them stored in LD to be able to manipulate them for things.. such as to produce for reapproval or other things like that
[02:08] <mhall119> cjohnston: they're stored on mootbot's server, IIRC, check the florida team's meeting minutes link
[02:08] <mhall119> eventually yes, mootbot could be reworked to store minuted directly to LD
[13:58] <head_victim> I know only Ubuntu members are allowed to use the logo on business cards but what about using loco business cards, would this be acceptable for teams working towards reapproval even though not official teams currently?
[16:27] <sense> head_victim: You'd have to check with Canonical for that if you want to be sure, maybe the Canonical Design Team can help you out. I think that as far as the business card shows clearly enough that it is the logo from the LoCo and when it adheres to the design guidelines, it won't be too much of a problem.


[05:55] <adil> hi i installed xubuntu on my dual bootedxp system from ubuntu and removed ubuntu.now i cant see my windows disks on thunar and places, but it is mounted on media
[05:55] <adil> pls help
[05:56] <bazhang> adil, how did you remove ubuntu
[05:57] <adil> by following this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[05:57] <bazhang> okay
[05:58] <bazhang> whats the output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:03] <adil> http://paste.opensuse.org/12239094
[06:04] <bazhang> adil, also the output of mount and uname -r
[06:07] <adil> http://paste.opensuse.org/78880370
[06:08] <adil> 2.6.35-22-generic
[06:08] <bazhang> adil, please pastebin the whole thing
[06:09] <adil> uname?
[06:09] <bazhang> yep
[06:10] <adil> its d oly output
[06:11] <bazhang> adil, what about uname -a
[06:12] <adil> Linux harman 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:32:27 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:20] <adil> @bazhang: any help?
[06:23] <bazhang> sorry adil a bit busy at the moment
[06:24] <adil> k i'l wait
[06:50] <adil> bazhang still busy??
[06:55] <adil> any other to help me?
[07:46] <adil> bazhang:
[09:51] <AndroidGoat> Hi xubuntuites
[09:55] <leoquant> hi AndroidGoat
[09:56] <AndroidGoat> I meant to join xubuntu offtipic
[09:56] <AndroidGoat> You remember me?
[09:59] <AndroidGoat> leoquant:
[09:59] <AndroidGoat> L
[09:59] <leoquant> offtopic he?
[10:00] <Liv> Hello. I'm installing 10.10 using my old (/dev/sda7) /home partition. Can someone confirm that this document is document is valid ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/komputes/HowToUbuquityPreserveHome )? Specifically, the existing /dev/sda7 partition contains user 'asdf' which I'd like to keep: if during the installation I ask Ubiquity to create user 'asdf', does the installer make sure that the existing /dev/sda7/asdf Home folder is used for the 'asdf'
[10:00] <Liv> user, and that this folder is not overwritten by a newly created Home folder? Otherwise, is it better to take a more manual approach ( https://tarpon.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/ubuntu-904-upgrade-reuse-home/ )? For example, I could create user 'dummy', finish installation, then use 'adduser –home /home/asdf –no-create-home asdf –uid 1002' to recreate 'asdf' user while preserving existing Home folder. What approach is best to make sure that
[10:00] <Liv> the installer doesn't mess with my personal files? Thanks!
[10:01] <AndroidGoat> Wholly crap that's a lot of stuff
[10:02] <Sysi> Liv: i've reinstalled with separate /home, always created user with same username, always worked
[10:02] <Sysi> (and you of course have up-to-date backups)
[10:04] <Liv> I don't have up-to-date backups, it's a big folder, that's why I'm taking extra precautions for it to work. Thanks for the info
[11:26] <eduardo> Hello friends
[11:27] <eduardo> Can you help me? I'm trying to transfer files from one xubuntu notebook to another pc also with xubuntu across cabled network
[11:27] <eduardo> But I dont know where to start
[11:29] <eduardo> there is no "remote file systems" on my system menu
[11:56] <gr8m8> there's always netcat for transfers but you have to hang around to find out these things..
[12:08] <gebbione> hi ...  i m installing xubuntu from usb and the "Load debconf preconfigration file" step fails, what can i do from the shell to make sure the installer finds the file that is located on the USB drive (not cdrom as the installer thinks)
[12:11] <gebbione> anyone in the house?
[12:13] <gr8m8> I know nothing about the usb install sorry gebbione
[12:13] <gebbione> it is not a usb install specific release
[12:13] <gebbione> it is just started from usb
[12:14] <gebbione> and for some reason the installer thinks it needs to find the file from cdrom rather than usb
[12:14] <gr8m8> !install
[12:14] <gr8m8> ^ might have a clue
[12:16] <gebbione> that looks like a process to create a bootable install from the hardrive
[12:16] <gebbione> i m using http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ instead
[12:18] <gr8m8> the second link seemed relevant
[12:41] <gebbione> doesnt really say how to go about that problem
[12:41] <gebbione> but thanks anyway
[12:41] <gebbione> trying to google on how to change the loading of the debconf from another location
[12:41] <gebbione> but google is not being my friend
[12:42] <bazhang> point it to the iso
[12:42] <gebbione> bazhang what do you mean?
[12:42] <bazhang> or put the iso on hdd and put in grub2
[12:42] <gebbione> bazhang:  the installation is already running
[12:42] <gebbione> no need to do that
[12:43] <bazhang> so what's the issue
[12:43] <gebbione> i get a failure because he "Load debconf preconfigration file" step fails
[12:43] <bazhang> using unetbootin?
[12:43] <gebbione> it looks for the debconf file from cdrom
[12:43] <gebbione> yes
[12:43] <bazhang> bad 'burn'
[12:43] <gebbione> but there is no cdrom in this system
[12:44] <bazhang> happens sometimes.
[12:44] <gebbione> i can actually see the debconf file in the usb
[12:44] <bazhang> I'd recommend re 'burning' via unetbootin
[12:44] <gebbione> ok ll try that
[12:45] <gebbione> such a shame
[12:45] <gebbione> it is the first time the installer actually gets so far on this Viglen MPC
[13:17] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please I am using [Xubuntu 10.10]. Is there any way to add a search feature in the XFCE menu?
[13:28] <nysosym> hi there
[13:29] <nysosym> damn 11.04 has f**** my windows partition
[13:33] <quantumbit> its prolly still there, just not linked to the bootloader or something
[13:39] <knome> nysosym, please watch your language, even if "hidden"
[13:39] <bazhang> !natty > nysosym
[14:14] <Liv> Hi, the 10.10 installer always hangs at 'removing conflicting os files' (3 times out of 3). I'm using manual partitioning, existing home partition, and request to format / partition and /boot. As far as I can see Ubiquity is buggy. Ideas on how to proceed? Should I go with the alt cd? Is the debian-installer more reliable? THanks
[14:16] <bazhang> Liv, I always go for the debian-installer (ie alt cd). much more control and reliability imo
[14:19] <Liv> i see. thanks
[14:21] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please how to change the default programs for all applications under xubuntu 10.10 (XFCE)?
[14:22] <Sysi> default programs for opening files?
[14:24] <TornadoXubuntu> yes! Sysi, i want to change the default programs for all associated files like audio, video..etc
[14:24] <TornadoXubuntu> for opening them
[14:24] <TornadoXubuntu> am using Thunar
[14:25] <Sysi> right click → properties -Z
[14:26] <Sysi> → open with
[14:27] <TornadoXubuntu> but if i need to change lots of formats likes .gif, .jpg ... etc |
[14:29] <TornadoXubuntu> ubuntu tweak is not working when am modifying the extensions using it
[14:29] <TornadoXubuntu> any ideas?
[14:29] <bazhang> change the extensions? why?
[14:30] <bazhang> or convert
[14:30] <TornadoXubuntu> for example i need to open all the .gif, .jpeg...etc using gthumb and i need to open all .cpp, .c files using gedit
[14:31] <TornadoXubuntu> i can't change them one by one... they are a lot of extensions. Currently the default programs for opening them are kinda messed up
[14:32] <TornadoXubuntu> sorry for the bad explanation above
[14:32] <TornadoXubuntu> i mean opening not modifying
[14:32] <bazhang> how'd they get messed up?
[14:34] <TornadoXubuntu> well for example mousepad is handling most of my text files while i need gedit to do that. Similar examples stands for audio, video and others
[14:34] <TornadoXubuntu> in ubuntu tweak there is this kind of option for changing the default programs that opens all associated files
[14:34] <TornadoXubuntu> but it is not working for me
[14:35] <TornadoXubuntu> they are still getting opened by the old settings
[14:35] <bazhang> !find tweak
[14:35] <bazhang> ubuntu tweak? some kind of 3rd party app?
[14:35] <TornadoXubuntu> yeah it is...
[14:35] <bazhang> aha
[14:36] <bazhang> sorry no idea then
[14:36] <TornadoXubuntu> is okey
[14:36] <TornadoXubuntu> thanks
[14:42] <TornadoXubuntu> i found a solution by installing Ailurus
[14:42] <TornadoXubuntu> thanks bazhang
[14:54] <nijabo> Is it possible to upgrade to the final release from Xubuntu 11.04 Alpha?
[14:55] <bazhang> !final
[14:55] <bazhang> yeppers.
[15:11] <nijabo> I take that as I yes :) I thought I'd switch to Xubuntu as my main OS
[15:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for support and you may wish to subscribe to the natty changes rss as well nijabo
[15:28] <nijabo> Cheers
[15:29] <bazhang> I'll link you there
[15:35] <bazhang> ah, you're not in there
[15:42] <derinov> Hello. I've gust installed Xubuntu, and I have some kind of problem, migrating from gnome and nautilus. May I ask a question about it here?
[15:44] <bazhang> derinov, sure
[15:46] <derinov> When I open Thunar, I don't see my other hard drives, which I want to mount. I surely can try to mount them from shell, but I wanted a more graphical, GUI way to do this
[15:46] <derinov> In nautilus there was a list of other hard drives, in Thunar I just can't find them
[16:35] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please how to install (Ubuntu System Panel - USP) under Xubuntu 10.10?
[16:36] <bazhang> TornadoXubuntu, whats the package name
[16:37] <TornadoXubuntu> here it is: http://code.google.com/p/ubuntu-system-panel/
[16:38] <TornadoXubuntu> I think it is not supported under XFCE right?
[16:39] <bazhang> that's nearly 3 years out of date
[16:39] <TornadoXubuntu> i see
[16:40] <bazhang> !find ubuntu-system-panel
[16:43] <bazhang> !find usp2
[16:45] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~malacusp/+archive/ppa TornadoXubuntu here's the ppa (its at your own risk)
[16:47] <TornadoXubuntu> Thanks bazhang... i really appreciated
[16:50] <bazhang> TornadoXubuntu, best to make  a backup just in case anything goes wrong, or at least have a separate home partition
[16:50] <bazhang> !home
[17:29] <TornadoXubuntu> Please how to install the XfApplet under Xubuntu 10.10?
[17:30] <TornadoXubuntu> Here is the link: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[17:31] <TornadoXubuntu> after downloading the .tar file what shall i do?
[17:32] <Sysi> it should be available in repositories
[17:32] <bazhang> !find xfapplet
[17:33] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[17:33] <bazhang> TornadoXubuntu, always look in Package Manager first :)
[17:33] <TornadoXubuntu> ok thanks a lot! i really appreciate all your time. Sorry for my beginner questions.
[17:34] <bazhang> everyone starts at the beginning hehe
[17:34] <TornadoXubuntu> thanks for the support bazhang! am just new here! one of my first days around :)
[17:35] <bazhang> TornadoXubuntu, a useful command to search is apt-cache search package (in the terminal) to find stuff in the software repositories
[17:36] <TornadoXubuntu> I will write that down. Indeed it is useful :)
[17:37] <bazhang> !manual | TornadoXubuntu this may help too
[17:37] <bazhang> thats for gnome, but pretty much the same under the hood
[17:37] <bazhang> ie the command line stuff etc
[17:39] <TornadoXubuntu> i see... For sure a handy manual will help around. Thanks for the info! i am really pleased by the support here.
[17:40] <bazhang> don't be shy to ask stuff you don't know about right now.
[17:49] <TornadoXubuntu> sure... I will do my best :)
[19:27] <Sysi> gmrmmh, my creative audigy2 fails with kubuntu 10.10, let's hope better luck with xfce
[19:27] <Sysi> worked exellently with fedora 14 xfce
[19:35] <Sysi> gstreamer error..
[19:47] <Sysi> so i could try integrated chip instead
[19:48] <Sysi> (if nobody knows distro that works well with gtx 460 and audigy2)
[20:59] <Sysi> darn xine
[21:03] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please the right click on my mouse is not working any more at the desktop. It is working everywhere else just at the desktop it is displaying nothing and causing the whole system to freeze for a while.
[21:03] <TornadoXubuntu> any suggestions what might be the problem?
[21:03] <Sysi> xfdesktop's crashed, did you try ro relogin?
[21:04] <TornadoXubuntu> i tried to restart my pc but it did not work
[21:07] <TornadoXubuntu> could be something related to some other programs i installed today?
[21:07] <Sysi> do you have nautilus?
[21:08] <TornadoXubuntu> am using Thunar
[21:08] <TornadoXubuntu> not nautilus
[21:08] <TornadoXubuntu> xubuntu 10.10
[21:09] <Sysi> no nautilus installed at all?
[21:27] <Sysi> i can't move launchers in 10.10?
[21:27] <Sysi> in panel
[21:37] <TornadoXubuntu> no i can't move anything
[21:37] <TornadoXubuntu> the launchers are not movable Sysi
[21:37] <TornadoXubuntu> in my system i mean
[21:37] <Sysi> hnngh
[21:38] <TornadoXubuntu> do i have to install nautilus or something?
[21:38] <Sysi> it could cause the problem
[21:38] <TornadoXubuntu> or maybe delete some packages that might be causing some conflicts.
[21:39] <TornadoXubuntu> it was working fine though yesterday
[21:39] <TornadoXubuntu> i mean the right click of the mouse
[21:39] <TornadoXubuntu> just today... it stopped working after i finished installing my programs
[21:40] <TornadoXubuntu> Does Ubuntu System Panel (USP) has anything to do with this problem?
[21:40] <TornadoXubuntu> because i installed it today
[21:40] <TornadoXubuntu> (it is working fine)
[21:42] <TornadoXubuntu> i installed the gnome-main-menu as well
[21:54] <ubuntu_> hello
[21:54] <ubuntu_> How do I get XFCE 4.8?
[21:55] <ubuntu_> Im installing nattty but it says I am running XFCE 4.7
[21:57] <ubuntu_> Will 11.04 update to XFCE 4.8?
[22:46] <skiwithpete> hey
[22:46] <skiwithpete> I've installed XFCE
[22:46] <skiwithpete> on a minimal Ubuntu
[22:47] <skiwithpete> I want to install Bluetooth - but don't know what packages I need
[22:47] <skiwithpete> where can I find out?


[00:25] <osmosis> anyone know if this bug was fixed in the Lucid ABI 23 kernel that was pushed to lucid-updates?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/603799
[00:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 603799 in ubuntu "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [kdmflush:275] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[00:58] <osmosis> is there a Lucid ABI changelog somewhere??
[01:36] <Michel> test
[02:17] <osmosis> anyone know if this bug was fixed in the Lucid ABI 23 kernel that was pushed to lucid-updates?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/603799
[02:17] <osmosis> is there a Lucid ABI changelog somewhere??
[02:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 603799 in ubuntu "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 61s! [kdmflush:275] (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:37] <dupondje> seems like there are some issues with mmc in maverick ?
[22:37] <dupondje> [  370.259834] mmc0: Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress.
[22:37] <dupondje> etc :s
[22:38] <dupondje> [  305.110100] No NAND device found.
[22:45] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/604122
[22:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 604122 in linux (Ubuntu) "mmc0: Got command interrupt 0x00030000 even though no command operation was in progress. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[22:54] <dupondje> is there a (good) way to find the actual diff that causing the bug ? mainline works, current maverick kernel not