[14:26] <BrianHechinger[m> I think I need to find a new audio device. This isn't working. :(
[14:43] <BrianHechinger[m> USB-C based interfaces are just the same issues as USB 2.0/3.0 using C instead of the older connector?
[15:02] <BrianHechinger[m> I mean, just looking around here my options are USB, 500+ euro firewire/pcie or this thing which I'm a bit weary of: https://www.thomann.de/intl/esi_maya44_ex.htm
[17:53] <BrianHechinger[m> OvenWerks: Did you see my musings?
[18:10] <OvenWerks> somewhat. BrianHechinger[m I don't know what to suggest. Many of the "USB3" devices are USB2.0 audio via USB3
[18:12] <BrianHechinger[m> Yeah, but what about 3.1/3.2/etc? Still probably just USB2 devices? I'm half tempted to take a chance on that maya44, but I don't see where the headphone jack is they claim it has and I'm also not 100% sure on if it's supported or not.
[18:13] <OvenWerks> There are some that are effectively PCIe over USB3 That might be better. But the reality is that audio interfaces are not cheap unless you are doing USB1.1 2/2 i/o 16 bit
[18:15] <OvenWerks> I was wondering what I was going to do in my "next" computer when I may not have PCI slots for my delta 66. But now I have a PCIe FW card and FW interface, that will last me for the forseeable future
[18:16] <OvenWerks> I was looking at the audioscience devices (PCIe) but they are pricey
[18:20] <OvenWerks> The other option coming down the road (also not cheap) are the enet protocols: aes67, dante and AVB.
[18:22] <OvenWerks> So far as I know, all these do use more cpu to work, at least with Linux but I think other OS have similar problems.
[18:43] <OvenWerks> These also require an specific NIC to work well (aes67 and dante will work with any NIC but still work better with an i210 NIC)
[19:36] <BrianHechinger[m> OvenWerks: I just wish this one I had worked better. Another issue I have is availability over here. Much harder to find anything let along cheap used stuff.
 "There are some that are effectiv..." <- Have anything to point me at to learn more about this PCIe over USB3 thing?
[19:52] <OvenWerks> BrianHechinger[m: most of what I know about USB3 is rumours  :)
[19:53] <BrianHechinger[m> It's hard to find any good actual information
[19:53] <BrianHechinger[m> how about a RME Hammerfall DSP Multiface?
[19:53] <BrianHechinger[m> (not the II, the original one)
[19:53] <BrianHechinger[m> it's a little more than I'd like to pay, but.....
[19:53] <BrianHechinger[m> Although it's on a website called holy dog water, so I'm a bit skeptical. ;-
[19:54] <BrianHechinger[m> s/;-/:-D/
[19:54] <OvenWerks> The RME stuff is _not_ supported on Linux
[19:55] <BrianHechinger[m> Boo!
[19:55] <BrianHechinger[m> This maya44 is looking like the best option.
[19:55] <OvenWerks> Even the USB 2 stuff is not fully USB2.0 so far as I know. I think they work (get audio in and out) but settings don't
[19:56] <OvenWerks> Have you looked on the Ardour discourse?
[19:56] <OvenWerks> I think I saw someone asking about those on there
[19:57] <BrianHechinger[m> Actually, it doesn't look hopeful for support
[19:57] <BrianHechinger[m> at least not by ALSA
[19:59] <BrianHechinger[m> Geeze, it looks like the USB Maya44 isn't even well supported
[19:59] <BrianHechinger[m> yeah, nevermind
[19:59] <OvenWerks> The thing to look for is macos/iOS support
[20:04] <BrianHechinger[m> The ethernet thing is interesting
[20:04] <BrianHechinger[m> I never really knew that was a thing
[20:04] <BrianHechinger[m> Not cheap, but not horrifically expensive either
[20:06] <OvenWerks> Dante is pretty much the default standard but is closed. Dante will work with aes67 or AVB(I hear it works with AVB anyway)
[20:06] <BrianHechinger[m> Although you do get a bit less for the money.
[20:07] <BrianHechinger[m> It's a lot of money to get more than simple things.
[20:07] <BrianHechinger[m> This MOTU Audio Express looks nice, but 400 pounds. 😭
[20:08] <OvenWerks> A lot of the network protocols expect you to use a USB or PCIe to network devices.
[20:08] <BrianHechinger[m> Which I could do easily enough
[20:09] <BrianHechinger[m> I just don't get some of the things I want down in my price range
[20:09] <BrianHechinger[m> even that motu unit offers way more input/output than any of the ethernet devices in that price range.
[20:10] <OvenWerks> Welcome to proaudio... it's kind of like anything with the word marine in it, the word ProAudio adds $$
[20:11] <OvenWerks> Once in a while those extra $$ actually get you something
[20:22] <BrianHechinger[m> I think basically what it comes down to is screw it I'm stealing the Komplete Audio 6 back from the kid's computer. As soon as I figure out what to replace it with because these stupid HDMI audio extractors don't work on the 1080 or 1070.
[20:35] <BrianHechinger[m> I really want to stick with a firewire interface but unless i can magically get this one to work it isn't looking likely
[20:37] <BrianHechinger[m> Or a PCIe one but those are even more unlikely. 🤣
[20:39] <OvenWerks> The PCIe ones are mostly used by Broadcast.
[20:42] <BrianHechinger[m> My friend will be in the US for two weeks. Not sure if that's enough time to snag something though.
[20:43] <BrianHechinger[m> My biggest issue is availability over here. It's really annoying.
[21:01] <BrianHechinger[m> The other annoying thing is it doesn't matter that I'm looking for FireWire Google keeps showing me USB crap
[21:02] <OvenWerks> Almost all companies that used to make FW devices have replaced them with USB
[21:14] <BrianHechinger[m> That doesn't excuse Google showing me USB devices even i search FireWire. 😜
[21:18] <BrianHechinger[m> s/even/when/, s/i/I/
[21:19] <OvenWerks> Google = page 3 plus before any hits start to make sense
[21:20] <OvenWerks> selling rank sucks
[22:20] <BrianHechinger[m> Dude, that's totally the secret
[22:21] <BrianHechinger[m> Focusrite Saffire Pro good support?
[22:21] <BrianHechinger[m> 60€ for a 24, 120€ for a 26
[22:28] <BrianHechinger[m> 40 for 150€


[04:11] <JanC> just saw a cool application: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/nomon/
[04:11] <JanC> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktEuZW92qY&fmt=22 to see how it's used
[07:34] <AlanBell> demo running on Ubuntu too
[07:35] <AlanBell> looks like it needs a good sense of rhythm


[00:05] <Tim_Blokdijk> I'm running 22.04 daily. I get a double login, different types. One I can disable by using the "auto login" in the gnome user config. Is this a known bug?
[00:06] <sarnold> Tim_Blokdijk: if you don't get traction here you could try #ubuntu-next -- this channel is really more for coordination of work
[00:08] <Tim_Blokdijk> Didn't get a response in #ubuntu-next, so tried here.
[00:11] <sarnold> :(
[00:13] <jbicha> Tim_Blokdijk: I don't think that's a known bug. Please file a bug. I guess you could start by running ubuntu-bug gnome-shell
[00:14] <Tim_Blokdijk> Ok
[00:33] <Tim_Blokdijk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1967025
[00:47] <jbicha> great, thank you!
[05:56] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:45] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:53] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:04] <duflu> Morning jpnurmi
[07:09] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[07:26] <Nafallo> morning
[07:27] <duflu> Morning Nafallo
[07:48] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:49] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:49] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:52] <duflu> seb128, I'm good now. Was totally overwhelmed and tense by the backlog Mon&Tue but finally reached a relaxed state at 10pm. How are you?
[07:53] <duflu> "things I haven't answered yet but know the answer to"
[07:54] <duflu> BTW, how many countries have a long weekend for Easter in the days before the jammy release?
[07:54] <duflu> It's 4 days here
[07:57] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, good morning jpnurmi & Nafallo, salut seb128
[08:00] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright thanks! France has 3 days though my region also get the friday so same as you
[08:00] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, la nuit a été meilleure que hier ?
[08:00] <oSoMoN> duflu, that's a good observation, it's also 4 days here, Good Friday and Easter Monday are holidays
[08:01] <oSoMoN> seb128, presque 2 heures de plus de sommeil, la différence est notable!
[08:01] <seb128> :)
[08:01] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN and seb128
[08:06] <seb128> hey jpnurmi, how are you?
[08:09] <jpnurmi> seb128, i'm shocked that winter struck back here yesterday :)
[08:11] <jpnurmi> must be a chaos on the roads because the summer tire season started a couple of weeks ago and now there's suddenly snow
[10:01] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-arc-menu tags 7799bc0 Jonathan Carter upstream/49+forkv29 * https://deb.li/z0Oi
[10:28] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extension-impatience tags d2c49bf Jonathan Carter upstream/0.4.6+20220329-a2e06be * https://deb.li/iO9FE
[12:00] <jbicha> good morning
[12:05] <bittin> hey
[12:05] <bittin> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-canary/20220329.1/ does not work for me in Virtualbox
[12:05] <bittin> testing with the older installer now, will the beta use the new or the older installer?
[12:09] <bittin> seems the current one, has a better track record of actually installing
[12:13] <seb128> bittin, the new installer isn't going to be ready this cycle
[12:13] <bittin> seb128, ah alright
[15:32] <KGB-0> gnome-online-accounts signed tags 2ce9950 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.44.0 * Upstream version 3.44.0 * https://deb.li/oGxg
[15:32] <KGB-0> gnome-online-accounts pristine-tar fc0c0da Jeremy Bicha gnome-online-accounts_3.44.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-online-accounts_3.44.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-online-accounts_3.44.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3bmX2
[19:24] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center pristine-tar d93c8f9 Simon McVittie gnome-control-center_42.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-control-center_42.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-control-center_42.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/H6Yc
[19:24] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest a099712 Simon McVittie * pushed 672 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3REOy
[19:24] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 8f5270e Piotr Drąg po/pl.po * Update Polish translation * https://deb.li/TQTG
[19:24] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 6b7f4ac Марко Костић po/sr.po * Update Serbian translation * https://deb.li/i3zPM
[19:25] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 87a7518 Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/Qj4I
[19:25] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 8024531 Quentin PAGÈS po/oc.po * Update Occitan translation * https://deb.li/3HzzA
[19:25] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center upstream/latest 83091db Christian Kirbach po/de.po * Update German translation * https://deb.li/VEDe
[19:25] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center tags 6977894 Simon McVittie upstream/42.0 * Upstream version 42.0 * https://deb.li/3NAs0
[20:43] <holmanb> Hello! Where might be right place to report a jammy/gnome bug?
[20:44] <holmanb>  I'm seeing an odd behavior related to authentications on jammy/gnome lately. Any terminal command that causes the "Authentication Required" popup causes repeated newlines to be printed in the originating terminal - even after the auth app closes (ctrl-c interrupts the newline stream).
[20:52] <jbicha> holmanb: that bug is listed in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668 as "extra key presses"
[20:55] <holmanb> jbicha: Oh perfect, thanks for letting me know!
[23:52] <ahasenack> I'd like to file a bug, but don't know against which package. It's in the desktop. Use the search, and type "software". You will get back 3 very similarly named apps
[23:52] <ahasenack> "Software Updates", "Software & Updates", and "Ubuntu Software"
[23:52] <ahasenack> I never know which is which, what they do, and why the names at least for the first two ones are almost identical


[03:22] <vrexus>  hey guys any idea how to diagnose a site hosted on vps becoming inaccessible within a minute after rebooting vps?
[08:18] <raj__> is it safe to remove a process folder from /var/run/ if I think it has got wrong permissions, will it be recreated by process as before ?
[08:18] <raj__> don't I lose any information by deleting /var/run/<process folder> when the process is not running??
[09:16] <apw> hallyn, a naieve test of aufs shows that copy up correctly occurs for both chmod and chown on directories both privelledged and non ...
[09:17] <apw> hallyn, i need to know what those commands actually do
[11:45] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:01] <pmatulis3> morning
[12:04] <lordievader> Hey pmatulis3, how are you doing?
[12:28] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/mlnx-plugin-split/+merge/211515
[12:38] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[12:38] <jamespage> zul, ta
[12:48] <zul> jamespage:  the neutron ftbfs is starting to confuse me
[12:48] <jamespage> zul, against trunk?
[12:48] <zul> jamespage:  yeah
[12:49] <jamespage> zul, hey - I'm going to rename the vpn and metering agent packages to drop the '-plugin-' bit
[12:49] <jamespage> they are not plugins
[12:50] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[12:53] <zul> jamespage:  i need to rename oslo.sphinx as well
[12:53] <zul> the binary package at least
[12:54] <zul> jamespage:  nevermind about neutron i guess i fixed it last night :)
[13:23] <zul> jamespage:  did you see this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7114028/
[13:23] <jamespage> zul, no - I've mainly been focused on bug fixing in b3
[13:23] <jamespage> what does that do?
[13:24] <zul> jamespage:  i have no idea yet..im almost catch up from last week ;)
[13:25] <jamespage> zul, oh great - http://www.oneconvergence.com/
[13:25] <jamespage> a new plugin! whoopie!
[13:25] <zul> jamespage:  seriously?
[13:26] <jamespage> zul, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/neutron/plugins/oneconvergence
[13:45] <NaGeL> Hello i just installed ircd-hibryd on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and ihavea couple of problems: i can't log in to /oper at localhost with Epic5, yet  from any other location i can easily oper. Alsoi installed hybserv and it can connect itself on localhost(aka when iam in Epic5) but when i am on my local machine(where i can oper) i get an eror about unathurized server acces.
[13:50] <hallyn> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7114149/
[13:51] <hallyn> apw: so yes, the copyup does happen, but future permissions checks ignore the copyup
[13:58] <zul> jamespage:  when you get a sec https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/neutron/one-convergence/+merge/211532
[14:07] <NaGeL> helol anyone?
[14:09] <apw> hi
[14:10] <mardraum> NaGeL, I don't think anyone here will care enough to help you configure an irc daemon. Try a different channel or online help, forums, documentation.
[14:37] <fish_> hi everyone
[14:38] <fish_> how can I prevent the installer from installing resolvconf? I already using 'ubuntu- minimal' for "tasksel/first"
[14:40] <patdk-wk> you dont?
[14:40] <patdk-wk> just uninstall it
[14:40] <patdk-wk> or make your own pkg select file
[14:41] <patdk-wk> there is always deleting the /etc/resolv.conf symlink, and making the file yourself
[14:44] <vrexus> is there any way to diagnose as to why my site runs somewhat slow after i boot vps and then comes to a complete grinding halt?
[14:47] <Pupeno> Do you need a new CSR to generate a new certificate? I generate a new CSR for my private key to get an updated cert and they seem to be the same, the new and the old one.
[14:50] <zul> jamespage:  does this make sense to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7114440/
[14:51] <jamespage> zul, dropping the . ?
[14:51] <zul> jamespage:  yes...the namespace changed
[14:53] <jamespage> hallyn, re bug 1254872
[14:53] <jamespage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1254872
[14:54] <jamespage> upstream don't have a good reproducer other than failures in the gate
[14:54] <hallyn> jamespage: i know, i put in a vague description
[14:54] <hallyn> jamespage: i'm hoping the SRU team will be ok with it
[14:54] <jamespage> hallyn, I think so - it will have to bake for the full 7 days tho
[14:54] <hallyn> stgraber: bmullan: ^ that bug can be reproduced with an openstack setup, but not very well with a script
[15:01] <stgraber> hallyn: so long as you have someone who can confirm the fix once it's in -proposed, I don't mind.
[15:03] <hallyn> yup, we do - thanks
[15:23] <semiosis> anyone know what is the status of the glusterfs MIR?  sarnold was going to do a security review last time I heard anything.  jdstrand, jamespage, marcoceppi, any updates?
[15:24] <semiosis> thx in advance
[15:24] <jamespage> semiosis, I expect its still in sarnolds' queue of work
[15:25] <jdstrand> semiosis: it is on his list still (mentioned in standup meeting this week)
[15:25] <semiosis> ok thx for the update
[15:25] <semiosis> people are bugging me about this :)
[15:25] <semiosis> i put up a PPA with qemu built with glusterfs support for the impatient
[15:27] <jamespage> zul, ok - give me a hint - how do I rename and package and its upstart configuration at the same time?
[15:27] <jamespage> zul, I'm ending up with multiple metering and vpn configs post upgrade
[15:28] <zul> <package name>.<upstart daemon>.upstart doesnt work? and you might have to remove the old upstart job in a postinst
[15:38] <j0lz> hi - i want to run a ruby script on my server where do i put the script
[15:41] <jamespage> ubottu, bug 1234567
[15:44] <tomixxx5> how can i see dns resolve path?
[15:45] <tomixxx5> for example, if i do "ping http://www.google.at"
[15:46] <jamespage> soren, reping re uvirtbot - appears to have gone awol
[15:49] <jamespage> zul, commented on that MP - I don't think its an ml2 driver
[15:49] <qman__> tomixxx5: dig www.google.at
[15:49] <zul> jamespage:  thanks
[15:49] <tomixxx5> qman__: thx
[15:56] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/agent-renames/+merge/211567
[15:56] <jamespage> that was fiddly
[15:58] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[15:58] <jamespage> zul, thanks
[15:58] <zul> i have keystone building locally....its slow as malasses
[16:05] <jamespage> zul, yes
[16:23] <zul> Daviey: #1294206 and #1294204 please drop python-savannaclient and savanna from the archive please.
[16:27] <tomixxx5> do i have to restart network services if i change iptable rules?
[16:31] <Daviey> zul, in a meeting.. will look later today.
[16:35] <ilhami> can anyone help me?
[16:35] <RoyK> !ask | ilhami
[16:35] <ilhami> RoyK I have a problem with resolution on WIndows
[16:35] <ilhami> I have a Ubuntu Server on VM
[16:36] <ilhami> but I have to scroll to see "full" window
[16:36] <zul> Daviey:  thanks
[16:36] <ilhami> I am using Hyper-V
[16:36] <RoyK> ilhami: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299975/proper-way-to-change-terminal-resolution-in-ubuntu-server-13-04 ?
[16:37] <ilhami> ok let me try
[16:38] <ilhami> RoyK my problem is not this
[16:38] <ilhami> but this: http://nramkumar.org/tech/blog/2013/05/04/ubuntu-under-hyper-v-how-to-overcome-screen-resolution-issue/
[16:38] <zul> jamespage/gaughen: I filed #1294204 and #1294206 to drop savanna
[16:39] <jamespage> zul, did you mean to paste the same bug there?
[16:40] <zul> jamespage:  probably not :)
[16:41] <RoyK> ilhami: did't you mean console resolution was too high?
[16:41] <ilhami> no GUI
[16:41] <ilhami> :)
[16:41] <RoyK> then ask on #ubuntu - GUI isn't a server thing
[16:42] <ilhami> I asked in Windows. :D they helped me
[16:42] <RoyK> ilhami: then what's the problem?
[16:43] <ilhami> dunno. It says in the link I gave you
[16:46] <ilhami> Why can't I connect to my SSH server?
[17:01] <rostam> Hi I on my system I have a 120G ssd and 2G usb stick. I like to install the ubuntu server in efi mode, such that /boot/efi to be mounted off the usb stick, and the root filesystem mounted off the ssd disk. How could I accomplish this? thx
[17:11] <RoyK> rostam: just curious, but why not /boot on the ssd?
[17:14] <j0lz> rostam, go for manual partitioning and enter partitions manually ... usb /boot/efi and then partitions with mount / and another for swap
[17:14] <j0lz> on the ssd
[17:14] <j0lz> rostam, remember to put grub on the /boot/efi partition
[17:15] <specialkevin> I have noticed in syslog that ufw is showing some blocked connections for a rule that is setup to allow those connections. It doesn't happened all the time. Every few hours I will see a batch of them. I know the rule works in general because it is allowing connections now.
[17:15] <j0lz> rostam, so you have to make that partition bootable flag when partitioning
[17:16] <j0lz> specialkevin, do you have fail2ban running?
[17:18] <specialkevin> j0lz: yes, but not for watching this
[17:18] <specialkevin> The connection is a database connection on an internal network
[17:18] <j0lz> it sounds like ufw just doing it's job like blocking a flood or something like that
[17:19] <Daviey> a
[17:19] <ilhami> It's booting up without full network config
[17:19] <ilhami> the problem is dhcp
[17:20] <specialkevin> j0lz: well if that was the case I would expect 100s of blocked connections. The number varies from 5 to 10 in the period that they refuse connections
[17:22] <rostam> jolz: thanks for your feedback, I got some errors and I started the reinstallation again. Is there a link or site that has references to what you just recommanded? thx
[17:23] <j0lz> specialkevin, true it must be something else - my own mysql servers sometimes disappear for a moment or 2 ..
[17:23] <rostam> j0lz, how can I make the grub partition bootable, this is for efi mode? thx
[17:25] <j0lz> rostam, not that i know of because that is a highly customised partitioning scheme - I mess around a bit with partitions and had to boot from a usb because of having 2 raids on an old machine which i couldnt boot from so had to put the /boot on the usbn
[17:25] <specialkevin> j0lz: anything thoughts on how I could debug this further or get more logging output from ufw when it blocks something
[17:27] <j0lz> rostam, i dont use efi mode but that is just selected from your bios .. to make the partition bootable you select the option for the partition when you are manually partitioning it juring install
[17:28] <j0lz> during*
[17:28] <rostam> j0lz, thx
[17:33] <RoyK> bug 1171945 is an old one
[17:33] <RoyK> it'd be rather nice to get that fixed
[17:34] <RoyK> wasn't there a bot here that took keywords like "bug"?
[17:34] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1171945
[17:34] <sarnold> hunh looks like an unhappy bot
[17:35] <sarnold> doubtless when it revives we'll get a few hundred urls
[17:37] <j0lz> specialkevin, I think just check yours ufw status and iptables -L to make sure you have correctly configured the firewall and I am not sure if you might find this useful --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020102.html
[17:43] <SJr> I have an EXT4 file system and a directory on it, has a massive amount of files. How can I see even the name of one file if ls hangs for hours
[17:43] <SJr> before printing the first line
[17:44] <sarnold> SJr: ls -U will help; ls sorts its output first, and that can take forever
[17:45] <RoyK> sarnold: thanks - was looking in the manual for that :P
[17:45] <SJr> sarnold, still no luck. ls just starts taking 100%
[17:45] <j0lz> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device ......... device /dev/sde1 is not a drive that is known-safe for trimming ?
[17:46] <SJr> ah
[17:46] <j0lz> why am I getting this error - ^^
[17:46] <SJr> ls -U -1
[17:47] <sarnold> SJr: ah! yeah, that probably will help too :) heh
[17:51] <xibalba> can you disable any network management type of thing in ubuntu?
[17:53] <xibalba> ah i found the wiki on how to do it
[17:53] <xibalba> who needs a NM in the server?
[17:57] <zul> hallyn:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/1294248
[17:57] <patdk-wk> hmm, I wonder how many millions of files are in that folder
[17:59] <hallyn> zul: and what are havana and icehose based on?
[18:01] <specialkevin> j0lz: thanks, I checked out both ufw status and iptables -L. Everything is correctly configured. However, I didn't notice that all the blocked connections are SYN. Not sure if that helps add any info.
[18:01] <sarnold> specialkevin: any chance the connections had been idle long enough for the state of the session to be expired?
[18:02] <specialkevin> sarnold: is there a way I can check that with the ufw logs?
[18:02] <hallyn> iiuc (based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive) that's a saucy->trusty upgrade that failed?
[18:03] <sarnold> specialkevin: sorry, I don't know iptables well enough to know how to go look it up
[18:03]  * hallyn tries it
[18:15] <zul> hallyn:  saucy/trusty
[18:16] <hallyn> yeah i'm doing a release upgrade test
[18:33] <hallyn> zul: upgrade went fine here.  (it's at the removing packages stage so i don't expect it to fail now)
[18:33] <hallyn> this was plain saucy->trusty, not cloud-archive
[18:39] <hallyn> zul: are you sure that the icehouse-proposed archive isn't messed up (like a few packages are not there)?
[18:39] <zul> hallyn:  im not sure...ill double check
[18:39] <hallyn> thanks.
[18:52] <jamespage> hallyn, I'm not sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kvm/+bug/1294248 is a bug
[18:53] <jamespage> I upgraded havana->icehouse just fine - kvm does get bumped off but I don't think that actually matters
[18:54] <hallyn> jamespage:  right it doesn't matter that it gest uninstalled, but it might matter that it is not installable
[18:54] <jamespage> hmm - maybe
[18:54] <hallyn> though rdepends shows nothing
[18:55] <jamespage> hallyn, agreed
[18:55] <jamespage> I think its a red-herring
[18:55] <hallyn> so why is it no tinstallable?  is there something it conflicts with which didn't show up in the archive?
[18:57] <zul> Daviey:  thanks
[18:57] <zul> jamespage/gaughen: python-savannaclient and savanna is gone
[18:58] <jamespage> zul, nice
[19:02] <jamespage> hallyn, I see a Conflicts on qemu-kvm which would stop it being installable
[19:02] <jamespage> (commented on the bug to that effect)
[19:03] <hallyn> jamespage: qemu << 0.11?
[19:03] <hallyn> how would that conflict?  surely qemu-kvm is at 1.7 in icehouse?
[19:03] <Daviey> zul: please make sure you transition to the new name properly. :)
[19:04] <jamespage> hallyn, not that bit
[19:04] <jamespage> infact I'm not sure tbg
[19:05] <specialkevin> Anyone know if there is a way to increase the ufw limit-burst with ufw? If not would I just increase it in /lib/ufw/user.rules
[19:05] <jamespage> hallyn, yes " qemu-kvm : Conflicts: kvm but 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+1.0+noroms+0ubuntu14.13 is to be installed.
[19:05] <jamespage> "
[19:05] <jamespage> aptitude explains things better
[19:05] <jdstrand> specialkevin: there isn't. it is a feature request
[19:09] <hallyn> jamespage: bah, i was thinking it was being created by qemu package;  apparently it just doesn't exist now?
[19:10] <specialkevin> jdstrand: would I just modify the user.rules file to increase it?
[19:11] <jdstrand> specialkevin: yeah, you can do that and then do 'sudo ufw reload'
[19:11] <jdstrand> specialkevin: problem is, it will get overwritten
[19:11] <jdstrand> specialkevin: another idea is to add the rules to /etc/ufw/before.rules
[19:11] <jdstrand> those aren't overwritten
[19:13] <specialkevin> jdstrand: would I just copy the limit-burst lines from user.rules into before.rules with the increased value?
[19:14] <jdstrand> specialkevin: you would want to change ufw-user-input to ufw-before-input
[19:17] <specialkevin> jdstrand: I don't have a ufw-user-input with a limit line. The only limits are in user.rules under the #Logging section like this one. -A ufw-after-logging-input -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW BLOCK] " -m limit --limit 3/min --limit-burst 10
[19:50] <Overand> How 'sane' are the snapshots / betas looking now?  Like, for personal use for spinning up a fairly not-busy, not-critical VM, make more sense to use 14.04 beta, or 13.10 and upgrade?  (Obviously there's no "right" answer)
[19:51] <Overand> (that is, 13.10, wait 1+month, upgrade)
[20:05] <ilhami> hey
[20:07] <ilhami> how can I add a custom resolution to Ubuntu?
[20:10] <guntbert> ilhami: it isn't worth the hassle - just ssh into the box
[20:10] <ilhami> I have GUI on my Ubuntu Server
[20:11] <ilhami> I have downloaded xming but I can't get it to work
[20:15] <hallyn> utlemming: you seem like a vmware guy :)  would you want to ask for an FFE for --with-esx in libvirt?
[20:15] <hallyn> zul: ^  your opinion?
[20:15] <guntbert> ilhami: what are you trying to do? But anyway: GUI problems are not really on topic here
[20:15] <zul> hallyn:  why?
[20:16] <hallyn> zul: cause there are ppl who want to use vmware?
[20:16] <hallyn> zul: if i could give a *good* rason for why, then i could open an FFE bug :)
[20:16] <ilhami> I am trying to fix this resolution problem. Right now I can only choose one resolution in Displays
[20:16] <zul> hallyn:  seems overkill to me
[20:16] <zul> hallyn:  since vmware has their own api thing to manage vms
[20:18]  * hallyn considers qemu command line an api as well
[20:19] <zul> hallyn:  i dont have a good enough excuse
[20:21] <Daviey> hallyn: I heard about you.  I heard there was one person that is able to use qemu command line.
[20:21] <hallyn> zul: ok.  let's see if utlemming does
[20:22] <hallyn> Daviey: they are making it harder and harder though :)
[20:22] <hallyn> -device ab,48,sdfk,fwq=23, ...
[20:22] <zul> Daviey:  hallyn is old school
[20:22] <utlemming> hallyn: are you doing the work?
[20:23] <hallyn> utlemming: lazy git :)  i'd be making the change ind ebian/rules, yes
[20:23] <utlemming> hallyn: well, you know, public clouds consume all my time
[20:24] <utlemming> hallyn: my opinion is that it would be a nice to have, but I would have a real hard time defending that FFE
[20:24] <hallyn> utlemming: thanks, that's what i wanted to know :)
[20:24] <hallyn> then we'll wait for 14.10.
[20:26] <Daviey> hallyn: it's a http based API right?  Does it support SSL/TLS, securely?
[20:27] <zul> alright im out of here
[20:31] <hallyn> Daviey: uh, one would hope so, but i was only checkign for deps
[20:31] <hallyn> yeah it does
[20:32] <jocke92> Anybody know if postfix is able to store emails when my configured relayhost is down?
[20:40] <Patrickdk> jocke92, only if you didn't scew it up
[20:41] <ilhami> MORONS :D
[23:22] <specialkevin> If I wanted to increase the default limit-burst in ufw how would I do it. It looks like the default limit-burst is set in /lib/ufw/users.rules however any changes there just get overwritten. I know there is a /etc/ufw/before.rules but I am not sure what ip-tables syntax I should use in there to increase the limit-burst.


[08:31] <lag> Morning apw
[08:37] <apw> lag y
[08:37] <apw> lag, yeah morning, sorta
[08:38] <lag> apw: Sorta? Still up from last night?
[08:39] <apw> lag more sorta up, its been a long week
[08:39] <lag> apw: You're still in bed? :)
[08:39] <apw> having to get up at 8 on a sunday and go to work is not the best cure for tiredness
[08:39] <apw> heh
[08:40] <lag> Yeah, that sucks :)
[08:40] <lag> How did it all go though?
[08:40] <lag> Everyone looks happy enough in the photos
[08:40] <apw> still i think it all went out near to hitch free, as near as sometihng that complex can ever be so i suspect
[08:41] <apw> though trying to even sync an iso today is taking hours, so i assume we are being hammered to death still
[08:41] <lag> That's a good thing :)
[08:41] <lag> Mo' users
[08:42] <apw> i am seeing about 25KB/s from here, and i can smell the DC from here
[08:42] <apw> so i assume we are red-lining all our b/w
[08:42] <lag> :)
[08:42] <lag> So what now?
[08:43] <apw> a lazy day for me for sure
[08:45] <lag> And for the rest of us saps?
[08:51] <apw> heh *crack* back to digging out the ore
[08:52] <apw> this is the slack time, there is a lull between now and UDS where we start to think about what we are going to do
[08:52] <apw> and we start the sprint again
[08:53] <lag> Okay
[08:53] <lag> I guess I'll just crack on with my bugs then
[09:29] <cking_> where's the URL to the kernel related blueprints for natty?
[09:37] <tgardner> cking_, apw was messing with that stuff earlier last week
[09:39] <apw> cking_, they are likely all lost now as someone renamed them
[09:39] <apw> let me find them
[09:43] <apw> cking_, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n?searchtext=kernel
[09:43] <cking_> apw, ta
[09:43] <apw> cking_, all of them are on that page, many have hardware-prefix, a couple have other-
[09:43] <apw> new fun track prefixes
[09:43] <apw> that messes up all my links gah
[09:47] <cking_> is there any naming scheme being used - looks a little ad-hoc to me
[09:50] <smb> cking_, yes <random name>-<your track name<
[09:53] <cking_> smb, what's our official "track name" then?
[09:54] <smb> cking_, whatever they think could match. I don't think it was a single track that apw found
[09:54] <cking_> gah
[09:55] <apw> cking_, yep the tracks are 'ideas' oriented this time not team oriented
[09:56] <apw> so like cloud, hardware, etc
[09:57] <cking_> fwts falls into hardware I suppose,
[09:57] <apw> i guess
[10:00] <cking_> smb, I see a lot of the blueprints named "hardware-kernel-n-some-title" - doesn't that conflict with <random name>-<your track name> as you mentioned earlier. I'm confused
[10:02] <smb> cking_, Are you always taking me up to the word?
[10:02] <smb> It was more of an impression
[10:03] <smb> I yet have to find my blueprints again to even know what they changed them into
[10:03] <smb> cking_, There was a mail by jcastro where he was telling the scheme I think
[10:04] <cking_> ah, /me looks
[10:17] <diwic> how do I export a single commit with git format-patch? if I just do "git format-patch abcdef" it'll take everything from abcdef+1 to HEAD, which is not what I want.
[10:18] <smb> diwic, with -1
[10:18] <smb> git format-patch <sha1> -1
[10:19] <diwic> smb, thanks. Strange, this was not documented on "git help format-patch"
[10:21] <smb> diwic, Likely it is hidden somewhere in git-rev-parse in a very unovious way
[10:21] <smb> diwic, I usually found a "ask apw" much more effective
[10:22] <apw> diwic, git format-patch -1 <commit>
[10:22] <apw> diwic, or git format-patch <commit-A>..<commit-B>
[10:23] <apw> (where A is before the range as normal)
[10:24] <diwic> apw, right, could have done git format-patch abcdef^..abcdef as well
[10:24] <apw> yep
[10:24] <apw> -N is easiest for small values of N
[10:24] <diwic> aha, so abcdef -2 will take abcdef and abcdef+1?
[10:25] <cking_> apw, when registering a blueprint I'm asked "For:" ..(The project for which this proposal is being made.". If I put in "ubuntu" LP complains that there are too many matches on this keyword. How did you fill in this field?
[10:26] <apw> cking_, for as in project, thats ubuntu
[10:29] <apw> cking_, pretty sure that i just typed it in and moved on
[10:29] <apw> cking_, yeah just shove in the text ubuntu and move to the next field, the searchy thing blows a sprocket
[10:29] <cking_> argh, it's now lost it *again*. LP time outs are getting me crosser by the moment
[10:30] <lag> Who will do the ti-omap4 packaging for natty?
[11:02] <cking_> Blueprint saga now complete·
[11:08] <apw> cking_, how many am i looking for ?
[11:09] <cking_> apw, just one, I've been wrestling with other things too, it's been a background task for this morning
[13:38] <jcastro> smb: $track-$team-n-$title is the format
[17:46] <ogasawara> vanhoof: are you working today?
[17:47] <ogasawara> vanhoof: I assumed you'd be recovering from jet lag and observing the holiday anyways
[17:50] <lag> ogasawara: Congratulations :)
[17:50] <ogasawara> lag: thanks :)
[17:51] <lag> What's next?
[17:52] <ogasawara> lag: world domination
[17:52] <lag> Sounds like you're up to it
[18:28] <bo> hi people
[18:28] <bo> i wonder why on ubuntu/debian nouveau on recent (nvidia gt230m and 310m) cards i get a black screen on boot
[18:29] <bo> while on fedora it works great since lots of months
[18:29] <bo> it's a problem related to some of debian/ubuntu kernel patches?
[18:31] <vanhoof> ogasawara: kinda sorta, we're on holiday :)
[18:31] <vanhoof> ogasawara: wanted to get that tested though, gonna head out to lunch
[18:32] <ogasawara> vanhoof: am gonna build you another test kernel with those additional suspend related looking patches.  But don't test it till tomorrow and just enjoy the rest of your day.
[18:33] <vanhoof> ogasawara: kk :)
[18:33] <apw> bo it may be a firware issue, or lacking of patches ... we'd want a bug filed from the machine
[18:33] <apw> ogasawara, morning ...
[18:33] <apw> looks like its all gone out ok ... congrats on your first born
[18:34] <ogasawara> apw: heh, hopefully baby #2 will be just as painless
[18:34] <apw> ogasawara, heh i bet you do :)
[18:37] <bo> apw: now i'm on fedora, how can i report a bug in a machine with a black screen from the first second of boot? (but not freezed, in fact i heard the gdm sound)
[18:37] <apw> bo, fair enough then
[18:38] <bo> on fedora-kernel they told me that they don't ship any nouveau code that isn't upstream
[18:38] <bo> i don't know if it's a kernel problem or whatelse!
[18:38] <apw> bo and what kernel version is fedora shipping
[18:39] <apw> most likely a combination between that and the mesa
[18:39] <bo> now, <IP_ADDRESS>-39.fc14.x86_64... but it works with many past fedora kernel
[18:41] <bo> there are a lot of forum topic on this problem, i tought it was a card problem, but some months ago i find that on fedora worked
[18:41] <apw> bo, and you were testing lucid or maverick
[18:42] <bo> didn't work on both
[18:42] <bo> and also on debian alpha
[18:44] <apw> whats the card bo ?
[18:44] <bo> before maverick i used closed driver, and a put on xorg the EDID file description path,
[18:44] <bo> and the it worked
[18:44] <bo> so maybe it isn't related to nouveau
[18:44] <apw> yet nouveau works on fedora
[18:45] <apw> bo, what nvidia card ?
[18:45] <bo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 230M] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[18:46] <apw> RAOF, Sarvatt, know anything about noveau not working with the above card on maverick ?
[18:47] <apw> bo i assume your testing was on the live CD image as you are on fedora ?
[18:47] <bo> no, now i installed fedora
[18:48] <bo> cause on lucid i managed to have graphic with closed driver and EDID file on xorg
[18:48] <bo> in maverick it doesn't work
[18:49] <apw> bo, how long ago did you switch away, ie. when did you last test maverick
[18:49] <bo> it works just with vesa
[18:49] <bo> i tested maverick yesterday
[18:50] <bo> i use fedora since august
[18:50] <bo> yesterday i tried to come back on ubuntu
[18:51] <bo> before these months I always used ubuntu o debian with closed driver
[18:55] <apw> bo, thanks
[18:55] <bo> now i remember that i can connect the notebook to my tv via hdmi, in this configuration i DO see things on video
[18:55] <bo> and i can report bug
[18:56] <apw> so you should be able to do that via the liveCD at least
[18:56] <bo> yes
[18:56] <bo> now it seem to me just a monitor problem
[18:57] <apw> we may be able to tell that from the info in the bug
[18:57] <bo> what kind of infos do you need?
[18:57] <bo> i mean a log or whatelse?
[18:57] <apw> perhaps fedora has edid hacks, which would be common to all drivers and not specific to edid
[18:58] <apw> bo id you file a bug against the xorg driver nouveau we should get the kernel drm information too
[18:59] <bo> so i'll ask to fedora team i they've done an hack!
[18:59] <bo> sorry, how can i see kernel drm info? kernel.log?
[19:02] <apw> /sys/kernel/debug/dri
[19:02] <bo> ok, thanks, i have to go now, see you later
[19:03] <apw> and /sys/class/drm/card0-*
[19:03] <bo> (i'll read later)
[19:25] <Edgan> abogani: What is your gpg key ID?
[19:25] <Edgan> abogani: nm
[20:01] <vanhoof> ogasawara: i know i shouldn't be working, but i couldnt resist :)
[20:01] <vanhoof> ogasawara: success w/ v2
[20:01]  * vanhoof updates thread
[20:01] <ogasawara> vanhoof: sweet, I'll build one more to narrow it down between the two
[20:02] <ogasawara> vanhoof: but seriously, don't feel the need to test it till tomorrow
[20:02] <vanhoof> ogasawara: you keep sending them, i'll keep testing :)
[20:02] <vanhoof> ogasawara: im just ignoring everything else in my inbox atm ;D
[20:03] <vanhoof> but i do feel its time for a nap lol
[21:17] <maxb> Hi, I need some debugging help
[21:18] <maxb> Maverick kernels occasionally seem to malfunction on my box, manifesting as system monitor graphs showing the CPUs very busy with system time
[21:18] <maxb> top shows nothing - how can I trace which kernel task is to blame?
[21:31] <freetz> 10.04 appears to have KSM enabled, but I can't get madvise() to return success on when I pass the MADV_MERGEABLE flag
[21:31] <freetz> anyone else use KSM successfully?
[21:36] <stgraber> AFAIK kvm uses it and I seem to remember seeing over 500MB of merged pages on some boxes (running libvirt with kvm)
[21:37] <soren> freetz: What error do you get?
[21:37] <freetz> einval
[21:37] <freetz> which should only be returned if ksm is disabled
[21:37] <soren> freetz: Stock maverick kernel?
[21:37] <soren> freetz: Oh, sorry, 10.04, you say.
[21:38] <stgraber> root@chopin:~# cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_shared
[21:38] <stgraber> 136582
[21:40] <stgraber> (10.04.1 on 2.6.32-24-generic 64bit)
[21:42] <freetz> yes
[21:43] <freetz> grep KSM /boot/config-2.6.32-25-generic
[21:43] <freetz> returns CONFIG_KSM=y
[21:43] <freetz> i get that too for pages_shared
[21:43] <freetz> i enable ksmd by setting /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run = 1
[21:44] <soren> madvise will also return EINVAL if your addr arg isn't page-aligned.
[21:45] <freetz> hmm, i'll check on that real quick
[21:45] <vanhoof> ogasawara: v4 ftw
[21:45]  * vanhoof grabs a beer
[21:46] <soren> freetz: That's really (AFAICT) all it can be. madvise doesn't give EINVAL if you don't have ksm enabled, only if you haven't compiled it in at all.
[21:46] <freetz> isn't valloc deprecated?
[21:46] <freetz> or is there a better way to ask for page aligned memory
[21:47] <ogasawara> vanhoof: \o/
[21:47] <soren> memalign
[21:47] <soren> freetz: ^
[21:47] <freetz> woop just saw that...
[21:49] <soren> QEMu (which I /know/ succesfully uses KSM) uses posix_memalign to ensure properly aligned pages.
[21:49] <soren> fwiw.


[13:20] <LocutusOfBorg> hi, can you please subscribe to khronos-opencl-headers?
[13:20] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khronos-opencl-clhpp/+bug/1636728
[13:21] <LocutusOfBorg> it was part of khronos-opencl-headers


[00:39] <cnd> bryceh, where did the sun go?
[00:39] <cnd> this wasn't the weather I was promised...
[00:40]  * cnd wonders if the sky has a 30-day return policy on weather
[01:23] <bryceh> cnd, hey you'll recall I've been promising rain!
[01:25] <bryceh> cnd, really it'll mostly be cloudy with occasional rain here on out through the end of the  year
[01:25] <bryceh> jan-apr is when the rain gets really intolerable
[15:40] <Sarvatt> cnd: have you tried edgers xserver 1.11 by any chance? unity hasn't worked in a few weeks, compiz segfaults in libutouch-geiss
[15:43] <tjaalton> because the server lacks multitouch?
[15:43] <Sarvatt> going to be broken bad when we pull it in as soon as 12.04 opens, is there something I should be doing with the input stack? building against whats upstream of xi2.2?
[15:43] <Sarvatt> GEIS_DEBUG=3 doesn't do anything
[15:44] <tjaalton> does edgers have the multitouch patches after all?
[15:44] <Sarvatt> nope
[15:44] <Sarvatt> if unity really requires that.. not a pretty situation for any other distro? :P
[15:44] <tjaalton> hehe
[15:46] <Sarvatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697955/
[15:53] <cnd> Sarvatt, I didn't realize that was still a blocker
[15:53] <cnd> Sarvatt, you're up to date on geis in oneiric?
[15:53] <Sarvatt> blocker? nah I'm ok with unity being broken in the PPA but its going to hit 12.04 right when it opens and break the world :P
[15:53] <Sarvatt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/697958/ is slightly better
[15:53] <tjaalton> doubt we'll put 1.11 without the multitouch patches
[15:54] <tjaalton> rebased for it
[15:54] <cnd> tjaalton, if someone on the ubuntu-x side of things is willing to rebase, then that would be great
[15:54] <tjaalton> cnd: still plenty of time :)
[15:54] <cnd> but it's ok if 1.11 is uploaded without MT, imho
[15:55] <cnd> I think the touch team will still develop on oneiric, and I'll be working with xorg upstream on getting MT support in there
[15:55] <tjaalton> but yes, it'll get done in a few weeks if not before
[15:55] <cnd> tjaalton, Sarvatt: actually, you don't really need to forward port the xi 2.1 multitouch patches for now
[15:56] <cnd> you can merely forward port the gesture patch
[15:56] <cnd> which should be trivial
[15:56] <Sarvatt> cnd: ahh ok thats MUCH easier
[15:56] <cnd> heh
[15:56] <cnd> Sarvatt, are you up to date on libutouch-geis1 in oneiric?
[15:57] <cnd> we fixed a bug or two about geis crashing when utouch wasn't available
[15:57] <Sarvatt> up to date with whats in the archive yeah
[15:57] <cnd> ok
[15:57] <cnd> maybe that fix hasn't landed in oneiric
[15:57] <Sarvatt> making sure, ii  libutouch-geis1                        2.1.2-0ubuntu4
[15:57] <cnd> actually, I think we didn't push it because we fixed it this past week and it's not an issue on oneiric so we decided not to upload it
[15:58] <cnd> Sarvatt, can you install libutouch-geis1 from ppa:utouch-team/daily and retest?
[15:58] <Sarvatt> sure thing, if thats all it takes that'll be awesome and i'll just throw it in the PPA for now
[15:59] <cnd> hrm, this would be the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/utouch-geis/+bug/825359
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 825359 in utouch-geis (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Geis crashes when it fails to connect to XCB gesture service (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[15:59] <cnd> but it's already fix released for oneiric
[16:02] <cnd> Sarvatt, it's a unity bug
[16:03] <cnd> geis_init returns NULL, as it should, because there's no utouch instance
[16:03] <cnd> but unity must not be checking it
[16:03] <cnd> Sarvatt, can you file a bug against unity with the stack trace?
[16:03] <Sarvatt> yup will do
[16:03] <Sarvatt> was just about to say, no change with daily
[16:04]  * Sarvatt goes to dig that machine out from under 6 other laptops to file it :P
[16:19] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/860707
[16:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 860707 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity crashes when started in an environment without utouch support (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[17:01] <Sarvatt> gesture proto looks pretty intertwined with the multitouch patch now that i fixed up all the build system bits of it, go figure :)
[17:02] <Sarvatt> gesture extension patch I mean, sorry
[18:40] <Sarvatt> ricotz: dang, thanks for catching the wacom problem
[18:40] <bryceh> Sarvatt, wacom problem?
[18:41] <Sarvatt> wacom got updated in the archive and was newer than the one in edgers since i just rebuilt the archive one
[18:41] <Sarvatt> so upgrades would have been broken
[18:41] <bryceh> ahh
[18:46] <ricotz> Sarvatt, yw