[06:10] <noelferreira> yes Agrajag i want to chanfe a fat32 partition to other type of filesystem
[06:10] <cypher1> LjL, the bewares are ?
[06:10] <LjL> cypher1: 1) your GNOME menu will get polluted with KDE apps, and vice versa 2) GNOME colors (and/or KDE colors, but more likely the GNOME ones) and possibly themes might need some manual fixing
[06:10] <fbc> Anyone know how to get gnome working again?
[06:11] <peweeh> is there something, like, a web installer for the newest version of feisty fawn?
[06:11] <Jester626> fbc:  what happened to make it quit working?
[06:11] <neozen> peweeh: lol... NO
[06:11] <noelferreira> Agrajag: did tou understand?
[06:11] <rambo3> peweeh, if you mean like debian no
[06:11] <neozen> peweeh: that.... would rock
[06:11] <vapo1> yep peweeh
[06:11] <rambo3> but there are other options
[06:11] <LjL> cypher1: the themes problem is mainly due to the fact that KDE installs a *GTK* theme engine that uses Qt to do the rendering (i.e., tries to make GNOME apps look like KDE apps), so that should be easily fixed by removing that package (gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, iirc)
[06:11] <vapo1> its an upgrade though
[06:12] <fbc> Jester626: I uninstalled evolution and now I cannot get past the graphical login..
[06:12] <noelferreira> wich is the best filesystem to store files like movies, music and stuff like that?
[06:12] <Spliffster> hey ... does gaim-text work in edgy ?
[06:12] <Jester626> fbc:  this may or may not work, but the first thing I would try is to reinstall evolution to see if it fixes the problem
[06:12] <peweeh> rambo3: hah. let me try to paint you a picture of my situation
[06:13] <LjL> noelferreira: why not just ext3... it works. no particular performance consideration when storing very big files, and fragmentation is decent unless you fill up the drive
[06:13] <jelle> hi! when I plugin my usb protable harddisc ubuuntu always opens all the paritions in a nautils window explorer
[06:13] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone here ever used "upstart" under ubuntu?
[06:13] <jelle> is there a way how I can avoid that auto launch?
[06:13] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: yes, everybody who uses Ubuntu > Dapper
[06:13] <Spliffster> has any one installed gaim-text in edgy ?
[06:13] <fbc> Jester626:  How would I do that if I can't even login..
[06:13] <LjL> !upstart > jeeves_Moss    (jeeves_Moss, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:13] <wo0lverine> hello
[06:13] <vaportrace> hey
[06:13] <root_> hi
[06:13] <noelferreira> i use ext3 for / LjL
[06:13] <LjL> !hi
[06:13] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:13] <Jester626> hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and see if it takes you to the command line login
[06:13] <fbc> Jester626: Is there and APT line command that might help me?
[06:13] <cypher1> LjL, thanks a lot!
[06:13] <peweeh> new computer. no OS installed. i got a broken build of xubuntu right here from which i booted into a live session, but can't install without loads of errors
[06:13] <Jester626> yes there is
[06:13] <LjL> noelferreira: well, nothing wrong with using the same filesystem for two partitions, is there =)
[06:14] <noelferreira> i know LjL
[06:14] <jeeves_Moss> LjL:  well, I was reading on their web page that it should improve the boot time, and mine seems VERY slow.  Also, there were some screen shots on Slashdot a while ago about some graphical loader as well, any ideas?
[06:14] <rambo3> fbc recovery
[06:14] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: are you on Ubuntu Edgy Eft (6.10)?
[06:14] <fbc> rambo3:  How do I use recovery?
[06:14] <rambo3> i think someone posted you link
[06:14] <vaportrace> peweeh: you need to get a good iso off the net
[06:14] <noelferreira> i mean if there's is one particular filesystem with better performance with stuff downloaded (movies music ..garbage) LjL
[06:14] <jeeves_Moss> LjL:  one sec, looking for the artical.
[06:14] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: you can check by typing  lsb_release -a
[06:15] <noelferreira> LjL: do you know what i mean?
[06:15] <vaportrace> Fiesty survey? how many having trouble with glx on nvidia here?
[06:15] <fbc> rambo3:  nope..
[06:15] <rambo3> !rescue | fbc
[06:15] <ubotu> fbc: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[06:15] <LjL> noelferreira, if we're talking about big files (and movies, music, etc are big files), and no strong fragmentation (i.e. you *copy* them there, you don't download them there using some peer-to-peer program), then any filesystem will do. the more robust, the better. ext3 is robust.
[06:15] <jeeves_Moss> LJL:  yea, edgy 6.1
[06:15] <apokryphos> vaportrace: feisty in #ubuntu+1
[06:15] <neozen> vaportrace: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[06:15] <neozen> lol
[06:15] <rambo3> fbc in grub on system star choose rescue
[06:16] <neozen> JINX
[06:16] <LjL> noelferreira: if the stuff might get fragmented (like, you do use a peer-to-peer program to download it), well, ext3 is still quite fragmentation-resilient. but then there's, say, xfs that can defragment online
[06:16] <vaportrace> apokryphos: 7.04
[06:16] <fbc> rambo3:  Yeah  ok I' following you..
[06:16] <vaportrace> k
[06:16] <apokryphos> vaportrace: = feisty. So #ubuntu+1
[06:16] <noelferreira> it is just for store LjL
[06:16] <LjL> noelferreira: i can never remember whether they say xfs is good with small/many or big/few files, though =) but really, with big files, anything will do...
[06:16] <noelferreira> ok i will change to ext3 LjL
[06:16] <dyzlexiK> So has anyone got ubuntu to work on virtual PC 2007?
[06:17] <peweeh> anyone else getting errors while installing the newest xubuntu build? :/
[06:17] <jetscreamer> jfs>*
[06:17] <dyzlexiK> I can get ubuntu to start in safe graphics mode
[06:17] <jeeves_Moss> LjL:  anyways, the thing on slashot was about making your startup load in parellel, and it also gave a live graphical indication of what was going on during the load.
[06:17] <noelferreira> thanks LjL
[06:17] <LjL> noelferreira: then just go with ext3, you'll be fine. besides, you can even defragment ext3 now (probably not *too* tested, but you can), were it needed
[06:17] <JRlinux> Ubuntu 5.10 live just booted up... Any thoughts why FF dies every time I put in an internet address?
[06:17] <fbc> rambo3: OK, after I select my country and keyboard and other stuff what should I do?
[06:17] <jelle> found it
[06:17] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: the problem is, what you are describing happens *by default* under Ubuntu Edgy and later, since upstart is the *default* initializer
[06:17] <jeeves_Moss> LjL:  ok, thanks.  I didn't know.
[06:18] <Uberuxterm> hey whats the best filesys i should use on 500mhz/512ram with 8gb root space, reiser4 or ext3 im noob
[06:18] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: if you want to try to improve startup time a little, and you are *already* under edgy, reboot, then at the GRUB prompt, hit "e", go to the kernel line, hit "e", add the word " profile", then hit "b" to boot
[06:18] <jeeves_Moss> LjL:  ok, thanks.  I'll look into it.
[06:18] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: startup will take much longer than usual, which means the system is analyzing startup files in order to optimize the loading sequence
[06:18] <LightCatcher> Is there any software that will run on dapper that can make new partitions without erasing all the data on the drive?
[06:18] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: then, next time you boot it should be slightly faster
[06:19] <steven43126> Uberuxterm, i would stick with ext3
[06:19] <Uberuxterm> ok
[06:19] <LjL> !gparted > LightCatcher    (LightCatcher, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:19] <Uberuxterm> ] thx
[06:19] <LightCatcher> Ljl: Thank you
[06:19] <SoftIce> hi please can somebody look at this
[06:19] <SoftIce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12341/
[06:19] <SoftIce> thank you.
[06:19] <SoftIce> with regards to env
[06:20] <rambo3> fbc , you are in secue right dics ? can you boot in normal with rescue
[06:20] <fbc> rambo3:  After ansering the obvius questions, I get a menu that gives you a couple of options: EXECUTE A SHELL IN /DEV/HDA1
[06:20] <fbc> rambo3:  yeah I booted with the ALT INSTALL CD
[06:20] <neozen> SoftIce: lol.... adduser requires a parameter
[06:21] <fbc> rambo3: I can reboot in normal mode with rescue would you prefer that?
[06:21] <SoftIce> neozen: please look deeper
[06:21] <peweeh> Failed to mount "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_5bfbeb30_1eed_4c3f_81df_560debd6a6ea".
[06:21] <SoftIce> im not an idiot
[06:21] <Tatster> Hi all.  I'm desperately trying to install server edition and get partitioning working with LVM but seem to be going round in circles.
[06:21] <peweeh> that's what i'm getting, over and over again..while installing
[06:21] <Ferret> org directory in system root?  eurgh.
[06:21] <Ferret> oic, install cd
[06:21] <Tatster> If I go to use LVM I get message saying Volume group name already in use
[06:21] <LightCatcher> Ljl: So I'm guessing I'll have to unmount whatever device I'm trying to partition before I partition it? (which in my case would involve using the live cd since I only have one physical drive)
[06:21] <rambo3> fbc yes
[06:22] <peweeh> Ferret: so it's something with the build i guess? it's a daily one
[06:22] <rambo3> fbs it works faster that way
[06:22] <void^> SoftIce: "en_ZA:en" doesn't look very good
[06:22] <steven43126> SoftIce named after a debbuger ?
[06:22] <neozen> SoftIce: :::shrugs:: looks like you borked your locale files.... look around in the repos for eng locale files
[06:22] <meme-1> Good morning, afternoon, and evening folks.  I have noticed that in many apps from the file load/save dialog I cannot see my network volumes. Some apps like Open Office show my network in "Places" but most apps do not. Why not and how do I access my network from these apps?
[06:22] <LjL> LightCatcher: yes, you do need to use a live CD unless you're not touching *any* mounted partition (and even then, reboot before doing anything else again)
[06:22] <SoftIce> void^: well its south africa
[06:22] <SoftIce> so its correct
[06:22] <peweeh> just got my new computer and feared hardware issues
[06:22] <JRlinux> Weird-- I ran 5.10 installed for several months on this machine about a year ago.  So why doesn't FireFox run on the live setup?
[06:22] <LightCatcher> LjL: Thank you very much.
[06:22] <craigbass1976> Dimensions, did anyone answer you?  I like Kate to write bash scripts, becasue the "click your scroll wheel to paste" doesn't seem to work in gedit and I haven't bothered to figure out why.  I'm used to kate from using fedora and KDE
[06:22] <Ferret> SoftIce: Should probably be a . not a :
[06:23] <void^> SoftIce: it looks like an invalid syntax.
[06:23] <Uberuxterm> ubuntu is too slow on 500mhz/512 ram p2
[06:23] <fbc> rambo3: ok, It's on it's way.
[06:23] <rambo3> ctrl+d
[06:23] <fbc> rambo3: OK I just got a command line... now what/
[06:23] <steven43126> Uberuxterm, try fluxbox or something instead of gnome ?
[06:23] <craigbass1976> Uberuxterm, even xubuntu?
[06:23] <SoftIce> void^: please look further
[06:23] <SoftIce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12342/
[06:24] <Uberuxterm> ya even xbuuntu
[06:24] <SoftIce> thats my env and tried updating it
[06:24] <fbc> rambo3: CTRL-D at the command line?
[06:24] <craigbass1976> Uberuxterm, what are you running?
[06:24] <Uberuxterm> fluxbox..that only makes gui good, but launching progs is still slow such as browsers
[06:24] <neozen> Uberuxterm: try xfce or fluxbox
[06:24] <Uberuxterm> i tried both
[06:24] <neozen> Uberuxterm: ok..... and?
[06:24] <rambo3> fbc : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <Uberuxterm> both slow
[06:25] <Uberuxterm> the gui etc is ok in terms of speed, but launhing programs, etc is the same slow speed
[06:25] <void^> SoftIce: if you believe "en_ZA:en" is a valid string there i'm probably just too clueless.
[06:25] <Arrick> where can I get the checksum.md5 for the 6.06.1 server download image?
[06:25] <neozen> Uberuxterm: launching modern browser will always be slow on that hardware
[06:25] <Uberuxterm> whats the use of a menu that opens up faster, but the program wait time is the same in terms of launching in XFCE/flux vs gnome/kde
[06:25] <Arrick> *without* using the built in one
[06:25] <craigbass1976> OO and firefox are slow on my box too the first time I fire them up, I have 2. something ghz and 600 something megs of ram.
[06:26] <fbc> rambo3:  OK,, it's going...
[06:26] <sirkism> i figured the forum responses is a little slow
[06:26] <neozen> Uberuxterm: try different browsers
[06:26] <Uberuxterm> hey
[06:26] <Uberuxterm> whats the browser on DSL?
[06:26] <Uberuxterm> its very fast and light
[06:26] <craigbass1976> I just deal with it, because they started slow in windows too, but I ain't had a virus in a couple years. :)
[06:26] <Dimensions> craigbass1976:  thanks and sorry my question infact is to build a GUI which can call my scripts or programme running in bash
[06:26] <fbc> rambo3: ok, it's done should I try to reboot?
[06:26] <thapa> Uberuxterm: it's "dillo"
[06:26] <XeRoX_> how do I fix things like this: Package gaim has broken dep on libdbus-1-2
[06:26] <Spliffster> Uberuxterm: dillo
[06:26] <rambo3> fbc you dont have to
[06:26] <neozen> Uberuxterm: everything is fast in puppy.... its running out of ram instead of off your harddrive
[06:26] <Uberuxterm> how do i get that on other linux boxes
[06:27] <ninniuz> hi, how to get memusagestat on (k)ubuntu
[06:27] <rambo3> fbc:  /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:27] <craigbass1976> Dimensions, don't knwo then.
[06:27] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to rename a SD memory card in Ubuntu? I can't do it in nautilus, even with gksudo rights.
[06:27] <fbc> rambo3: cool...
[06:27] <neozen> Uberuxterm: doh.... sorry misread
[06:27] <Dimensions> well how do i install QT or gtk in ubuntu ?
[06:27] <Spliffster> Uberuxterm: sudo apt-get install dillo; on dibian based (ubuntu) systems
[06:27] <neozen> Uberuxterm: zoom over to DSL 's site and check it out
[06:27] <neozen> Dimensions: well... gtk is already installed
[06:28] <Uberuxterm> Spliffster thx
[06:28] <Recyclable> erm
[06:28] <Recyclable> anyone able to help me, I just somehow raped firefox
[06:28] <neozen> Recyclable: lol
[06:28] <Recyclable> Details: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)
[06:28] <neozen> Recyclable: ok... what'd you do
[06:28] <Recyclable> :/
[06:28] <Spliffster> Uberuxterm: dillo has some serious js/css problems tho. it's really nice (light weight) but nota browser that can keep up with modern render engines
[06:28] <sirkism> i just now got the light on my wireless
[06:28] <neozen> Recyclable: sudo aptitude install firefox
[06:28] <dyzlexiK> Recyclable: Get Opera, its quicker under linux anyways.
[06:29] <Recyclable> neozen: tried to update it to 2.0
[06:29] <fbc> rambo3:  Holy crap!! it worked... I least I got to my desktop... Now all I got is a message that says:"INTERNAL ERROR: FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL"
[06:29] <Recyclable> :/
[06:29] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[06:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:29] <sirkism> yeah i got that too
[06:29] <neozen> Recyclable: hehe....
[06:29] <neozen> Recyclable: want a script for that?
[06:29] <Recyclable> yes please <3
[06:29] <neozen> Recyclable: you have to install the old one though...
[06:30] <Recyclable> just installing it again neozen :)
[06:30] <davidwinter> hi all. how can I find out what graphics drivers I have installed on my MacBook?
[06:30] <neozen> Recyclable: kk
[06:30] <rambo3> fbc : try this : rm -rf .nautilus/s*
[06:30] <k9deh> hello. I am new to ubuntu, so excuse my question ahead of time.....
[06:30] <PriceChild> davidwinter, lspci | grep VGA
[06:30] <Recyclable> *should* be installed
[06:30] <neozen> Recyclable: I'll dig up my script
[06:30] <davidwinter> thanks PriceChild
[06:30] <Recyclable> arf, it's still raped :\
[06:30] <fbc> rambo3: ok,, in TERMINAL RIGHT?
[06:30] <Recyclable> neozen: cheers
[06:30] <neozen> Recyclable: try reinstall instead of install
[06:31] <johnficca> is there a legal way to play dvds on ubuntu in the US?
[06:31] <johnficca> or linux
[06:31] <SoftIce> "(%(%"*%"**^"^*
[06:31] <k9deh> I have 5.04 installed and wondered whether I must create the Cd of latest ver to upgrade..and is taht an option from said CD?
[06:31] <davidwinter> do I need to check if I have directrendering (I think that's right?) enabled before trying to use beryl?
[06:31] <Recyclable> sorry pricechild
[06:31] <SoftIce> can somebody help me with my language?
[06:31] <rambo3> fbc , yes if it doesn't work then its some applet/widget that you have on panel that is not configured. i don't know much about gnome since i dont  use it
[06:31] <craigbass1976> To play them?  I didn't know it was illegal to play dvds on anything..
[06:31] <kitche> johnficca: techinally no but there is ways by installing libdvdcss
[06:32] <lattyware> Hey all. I cannot boot ubuntu. I had to reinstall grub after moving hard drives around, and now ubuntu crashes out pronouncing that the modprobe was unsucessful.
[06:32] <neozen> johnficca: yeah..... gray area.... good news is.... its easy :) ... install libdvdcss
[06:32] <Dimensions> neozen:  how do u access gtk ? i dont see it on menues ... and how do i install QT ?
[06:32] <albert> hi, i got a problem with the xfce printing window (i also asked in 'xubuntu) :  i can't access the printing-window. it just closes down, after i open it
[06:32] <Tatster> Help!!  resizing an LVM partition under the installer isn't working
[06:32] <neozen> Dimensions: ::shrugs
[06:32] <fbc> rambo3:  OK,,, I just executed it....
[06:32] <rambo3> !mono | Dimensions
[06:32] <ubotu> dimensions: mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[06:32] <fbc> rambo3: Should I try to reboot?
[06:32] <johnficca> I've been looking on the web and no one says yes or no
[06:32] <lattyware> Any ideas? As I can't boot ubuntu at all.
[06:33] <Tatster> Should I just be able to delete the partition and recreate it?
[06:33] <Warrior> yoooo bitch !!!
[06:33] <neozen> johnficca: don't worry about it mon.... just install libdvdcss
[06:33] <Pici> !ohmy > Warrior
[06:33] <Warrior> yooo niger
[06:33] <Recyclable> neozen: it's still not working >_<
[06:33] <neozen> Recyclable: ....drag
[06:33] <neozen> Recyclable: don't know what to tell you
[06:33] <SurfnKid> !DiskMounter
[06:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:33] <Recyclable> haha oh dear :(
[06:34] <neozen> Recyclable: besides use a proven script next time
[06:34] <Recyclable> neozen: I followed the directions on some site to the T :/
[06:34] <Bawlsfuff> What does RTS thr:off mean?
[06:35] <neozen> Recyclable: yeah ..... that happens sometimes
[06:35] <johnficca> I don't want to get in trouble
[06:35] <neozen> ....submit a bug report so they fix the directions
[06:35] <johnficca> what about lindvd
[06:35] <wesley_> can i blacklist a single security update?  vnc4server is broken
[06:36] <Recyclable> I would, if I could get on firefox to do so :P
[06:36] <kitche> johnficca: it uses libdvdcss
[06:36] <neozen> johnficca: you own the dvds right.... you paid for them
[06:36] <johnficca> linspire says you can with them
[06:36] <johnficca> rentels
[06:36] <neozen> johnficca: big deal
[06:36] <lattyware> I have two SATA hard drives and two IDE ones. I moved them around recently, and upon reboot, grub appeard to be gone. I booted a live CD, checked the partitions on the drives were all good (they were) then reinstalled grub. I can now boot ubuntu, but it gets a tiny way along, then bugs out after a couple of minutes stuck there, saying modprobe failed, and it can't find /dev/sda1 (my root drive).
[06:36] <lattyware> Any ideas?
[06:36] <neozen> johnficca: you paid to RENT them then
[06:37] <neozen> johnficca: you don't plan on ripping them right? ... just playing?
[06:37] <johnficca> yeah
[06:37] <neozen> johnficca: install libdvdcss
[06:37] <johnficca> ok
[06:37] <Recyclable> neozen: any sense in me removing firefox then doing something?
[06:37] <Bawlsfuff> Does anyone know what RTS thr is?
[06:37] <neozen> johnficca: the legality of this package is still in question.... so is the idea of fair use for dvds
[06:37] <neozen> johnficca: you are not going to get caught lol
[06:38] <wesley_> anyone know how to blacklist a package/version?
[06:38] <kitche> lattyware: if you moved the devices around then your roo is not /dev/sda1 anymore most likely unless they are in the same spot as they were before
[06:38] <LjL> !pinning > wesley_    (wesley_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:38] <eilker>   i have 5 cd's as parts of an installation kit, i wanna make them a dvd , is it possible to do it ? may be via k3b ?
[06:38] <neozen> !pinning
[06:38] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:38] <lattyware> kitche: Well, I've checked on the live CD, and it is still /dev/sda1
[06:38] <wesley_> LjL thank you
[06:38] <neozen> O.o
[06:39] <johnficca> thanks for the help
[06:39] <neozen> johnficca: glad to be of help
[06:39] <neozen> that was just sooooo wrong.....
[06:39] <neozen> people should not be afraid to PLAY their dvds on linux
[06:40] <neozen> stuff like that just irks me severly
[06:40] <lattyware> yeah
[06:40] <lattyware> Damn closed standards.
[06:40] <Flamekebab> What happened to that cool "disks" utility that used to be in Ubunut?
[06:40] <neozen> closed.... right.... its kind of open now... whether they want it to be .... or not
[06:40] <Recyclable> :( wooooork firefooxxx :(
[06:40] <neozen> awwww
[06:41] <Recyclable> lol
[06:41] <neozen> me sorry mon
[06:41] <Recyclable> i removed it completely
[06:41] <atomiku> How can I block ALL ports with iptables? Then how can I add an "exception" to one port like port 90?
[06:41] <Recyclable> then reinstalled it
[06:41] <PriceChild> Flamekebab, it broke and was removed sorry
[06:41] <Recyclable> and it seems even more messed up :(
[06:41] <Flamekebab> damnit
[06:41] <Flamekebab> because mounting windows partitions can be a pain
[06:41] <Slart> atomiku: you can add a incoming rule for everything and drop it
[06:41] <neozen> Recyclable: bummer mon
[06:41] <Flamekebab> I can never remember the synax
[06:41] <atomiku> Slart: yeah thats what I wanna do
[06:41] <Flamekebab> *syntax
[06:41] <PriceChild> Flamekebab, gparted?
[06:41] <atomiku> Something like
[06:41] <atomiku> IF PORT NOT 80 DROP
[06:41] <atomiku> or whatever
[06:41] <lattyware> Is there a way to get the UUID of a device running Dapper (using Dapper Live CD and a Fiesty Install)
[06:41] <Slart> atomiku: hold on.. I'll check what my rules say
[06:42] <meme-1> Hello, I try asking again. Some apps like Open Office show my network in "Places" but most apps do not. Why not and how do I access my network from these apps?
[06:42] <neozen> Recyclable: keep in mind... only a few weeks to to feisty
[06:42] <LjL> wesley_: i see that that article is currently in a bit of a mess. perhaps, before trying to get through it, you may want to try "sudo aptitude hold packagename", though i'm not entirely sure if that will then work *only* withing aptitude or what
[06:42] <atomiku> there might wanna be a few other ports i wanna keep open too
[06:42] <LjL> wesley_: maybe synaptic can also put packages on hold, not sure
[06:42] <neozen> Recyclable: worst case... you back out what you have in /home.... whack out / .... and install feisty
[06:42] <neozen> *out->of
[06:43] <wesley_> LjL: i'm checking out some of the links.  The problem is in auto-update so I think i need something forceful.
[06:43] <Slart> atomiku: DROP       0    --  anywhere             anywhere            state INVALID,NEW   that's my last rule in my incoming chain..
[06:43] <Recyclable> neozen: I just spent a lifetime updating hoary to breezy to whatever comes next
[06:43] <Recyclable> :/
[06:43] <Slart> atomiku: I set my iptables rules using webmin so I can't give you a command line for it
[06:43] <atomiku> hmmm
[06:43] <sirkism> arghhh
[06:43] <LjL> wesley_: well, the "hold" flag for a package *is* global -- i'm just not sure how to set it (that is, i'm not sure whether aptitude uses it or just uses its internal database)
[06:43] <neozen> Recyclable: ohhhh boy
[06:43] <lattyware> Recyclable: Dapper,Edgy
[06:43] <LjL> wesley_: if Synaptic can do it, and i think it can't, just hold using synaptic (i don't have it, can't check)
[06:43] <Pambos> hu guys
[06:44] <neozen> Recyclable: yeah.... dapper is good stuff
[06:44] <Recyclable> dapper
[06:44] <neozen> Recyclable: its what I run
[06:44] <Recyclable> i've only just got it working today
[06:44] <Pambos> did anybody has able to use the wine
[06:44] <lattyware> I must say, the feisty version I have is great.
[06:44] <ttoine> hey
[06:44] <Slart> atomiku: I kind of remember sometihng about a default policy too.. you could set it to drop and it would drop anything not specified anywhere else
[06:44] <neozen> Recyclable: once you get used to the slightly out of date versions of stuff, it works really good
[06:44] <atomiku> Well
[06:44] <Recyclable> so it's kinda a bummer that firefox is now messed up
[06:44] <atomiku> I need to be a bit more clever than that
[06:44] <atomiku> if I block all incoming
[06:44] <atomiku> I still wont be able to do anything
[06:45] <atomiku> I want all ports blocked unless a port has been opened by a...
[06:45] <atomiku> hmm
[06:45] <lattyware> It's very smooth, it auto-configed everything except my dual monitorys. And I can use the nvidia-settings thing for that .
[06:45] <renz_> can someone help with a question about a java install?
[06:45] <neozen> lattyware: yeah... feisty will run fine for me.... except I have to blacklist video in order for it to work properly
[06:45] <Recyclable> at least I'm now in native resolution
[06:45] <atomiku> Maybe I just need some sort of firewall application
[06:45] <neozen> renz_: yeah
[06:45] <lattyware> Really? Video has been fine for me,
[06:45] <atomiku> That'll only allow gaim and xchat
[06:45] <neozen> renz_: I've done it lots
[06:45] <atomiku> that way I can be more secure
[06:45] <neozen> renz_: what you need?
[06:45] <Slart> atomiku: I'd say my firewall works nicely.. all NEW and INVALID connection attempts will get dropped.. anything connected to my outbound activities is allowed inside
[06:45] <renz_> i installed java5 and when i do a java -version command, it still says version 4?
[06:45] <Recyclable> had to make all the updates to dapper in 1024x768 on my 1440x900 monitor = eye burn
[06:46] <renz_> any idea why?
[06:46] <atomiku> Yeah
[06:46] <Baktaah> Anyone know of a program that "records" the screen, and another one to edit it (add text bubbles and arrows), preferably in good quality so even small text is visible.
[06:46] <atomiku> Well
[06:46] <neozen> renz_: type whereis java
[06:46] <neozen> renz_: and check the location it spits out
[06:46] <LjL> wesley_: i think the whole pinning thing is more for situations where you have one repository with recent versions of things, and another repository with older versions, but you want the latter to apply *except* for one package or two -- if you just want to hold some package to some older version, the "held" flag (however you set it) should work i believe
[06:46] <Spliffster> renz_: this is an env path problem. what is  echo $PATH saying ?
[06:46] <Slart> atomiku: that way I can still use im, mail, ftp etc.. since iptables knows what ports to open up for answering connections, most of the time
[06:46] <sacater> MAYDAY sound is only coming out of one speaker, it wasnt earlier, whats happened :(
[06:46] <atomiku> yeah
[06:46] <renz_> ok, i've got that
[06:46] <fbc> What are the pros and cons to using kde vs. gnome?
[06:47] <apokryphos> fbc: Google.
[06:47] <Recyclable> neozen: something else interesting i just found out: if I go system -> about ubuntu I get this error:
[06:47] <neozen> renz_: if where that link points to isn't where you installed java5, you need to update the links in /usr/bin for java
[06:47] <lattyware> Recyclable: Heh. I hate widescreen personally (says the guy at 2560x1024
[06:47] <lattyware> )
[06:47] <Recyclable> Could not launch menu item Details: Failed to execute child process "yelp" (No such file or directory)
[06:47] <ttoine> i would like to know how to find application/services wich are generating x-runs ? i am using the ubuntu -lowlatency kernell with an RME Multiface sound card at a latency of 5ms, and sometimes, even if i don't do anything but jackd alone, i experience some x-runs... (1 or 2 per hour). I add that i am developper of ubuntu studio, but we are not technical enough to find ourselves the problem
[06:47] <finalbeta> fbc: dragons eat gnome's for breakfast.
[06:47] <lattyware> Dual monitors win it for me.
[06:47] <ttoine> perhaps BenC could help me
[06:47] <ttoine> ?
[06:47] <coagen> christ there are a lot of people here...
[06:47] <neozen> Recyclable: wow.... you really ticked something off
[06:47] <neozen> coagen: YEP!
[06:47] <neozen> coagen: heheheheheeeehee
[06:47] <Recyclable> :( oh gods
[06:47] <renz_> my PATH string doesn't show the java location. is that what i'm looking for?
[06:47] <Pambos> hello guys in need your help
[06:47] <neozen> coagen: surprised me lots too
[06:47] <Recyclable> can I apt-get update or something to fix it?
[06:48] <neozen> Recyclable: try apt-get install yelp
[06:48] <coagen> neozen: i'd never been here until today...
[06:48] <guardianx_> how do i enter the ms workgroup and get files???
[06:48] <lattyware> Is there a way to get a device's UUID in dapper?
[06:48] <neozen> Recyclable: that might fix your yelp issue
[06:48] <Pambos> I have install unbuntu on my machine, i have also install the wine but still i cannot know how to run windows software
[06:48] <Recyclable> horray, installing it
[06:49] <sacater> MAYDAY:::: Sound is only coming out one speaker, it wasnt earlier, whats happened
[06:49] <finalbeta> lattyware: try running "blkid" if it's not installed, try installing it :/
[06:49] <Recyclable> that worked neozen :)
[06:49] <neozen> Recyclable: ok
[06:49] <Recyclable> now to fix firefox :/
[06:49] <neozen> Recyclable: yeah....
[06:49] <lattyware> bingo, thanks.
[06:49] <guardianx_> how do i enter the ms workgroup and get files???
[06:50] <lattyware> Pambos: terminal -> 'wine /path/to/program.exe'
[06:50] <neozen> Recyclable: any reason in particular why you stuck with the older versions of linux all this time?
[06:50] <renz_> neozen: which link should point to the java5 install? the whereis or the $PATH variable?
[06:50] <neozen> Recyclable: and didn't just back up your /home and do a fresh install?
[06:50] <neozen> renz_: the link in /usr/bin/java
[06:50] <Recyclable> neozen: I installed over grub a year or so back so hoary had just been sitting in my HDD for ages
[06:50] <guardianx_> how do i enter the ms workgroup and get files???
[06:51] <Recyclable> neozen: I only just decided to reinstall it on sunday
[06:51] <neozen> Recyclable: lol....
[06:51] <guardianx_> how do i see the microsoft windows network on ubuntu?
[06:51] <neozen> Recyclable: wow...
[06:51] <finalbeta> !active directory
[06:51] <coagen> I'm still waiting for ubuntu/linux to be able to add monitors as easy as windows....
[06:51] <guardianx_> how do i see the microsoft windows network on ubuntu?
[06:51] <neozen> Recyclable: so... you wouldn't miss it much if you just whacked it out and did a fresh install of dapper or edgy
[06:51] <sdaxc1> hi,  my machine sometimes freezes with a gray box when i log out... i looked on the web but nothing has worked... any ideas ?  (using xubuntu/ i get gray screen with vague small white rectangle in middle)
[06:51] <neozen> Recyclable: it goes really fast
[06:51] <neozen> Recyclable: ~30 minutes for me installing xubuntu dapper
[06:51] <Recyclable> neozen: probably not :/
[06:52] <latitude> hi. how do i change the logo on the menu bar?
[06:52] <Pambos> to be ownest with you i was runnning the command wine \\tmp\\setup.exe. Do you think thats way it didint run anything ?
[06:52] <Recyclable> neozen: are there any files I could have deleted that firefox needs?
[06:52] <baktaah_> sorry if I say this again, got disconnected
[06:52] <baktaah_> Anyone know of a program that records the "screen" and another to edit it (add textbubbles and arrows and stuff), prerferably good quality so even small text is visible
[06:52] <neozen> Recyclable: tons
[06:52] <Recyclable> neozen: :/
[06:52] <lattyware> Recyclable: For me, edgy installed great, about 3-4 things to configure.
[06:52] <neozen> Recyclable: and the sucky part is... I couldn't tell you which ones
[06:52] <Recyclable> :(
[06:52] <neozen> Recyclable: I know mon
[06:52] <neozen> Recyclable: there is another possibility
[06:53] <lattyware> coagen: What graphics card do you have?
[06:53] <guardianx_> is there a way to get files off windows?which is in the workgroup ?
[06:53] <lattyware> nVidia or ATI
[06:53] <lattyware> ?
[06:53] <lattyware> guardianx_: look up Samba
[06:53] <neozen> Recyclable: just download firefox directly....
[06:53] <unimatrix9> there is no easy way to format an usb memory stick , or is there?
[06:53] <neozen> Recyclable: stick it in some folder in your home...
[06:53] <guardianx_> do i have to install samba?
[06:53] <neozen> Recyclable: and run it from there
[06:53] <Recyclable> heh
[06:54] <coagen> lattyware: I know how to do it in xorg.conf with my nvidia desktop, but I dont know how to do it with this laptop with an intel i945 IGP
[06:54] <neozen> Recyclable: one of my friends did that on his version of breezy forever
[06:54] <Recyclable> neozen: using which browser to download it?
[06:54] <Recyclable> :P
[06:54] <neozen> Recyclable: LOL
[06:54] <neozen> Recyclable: wget
[06:54] <jpjacobs> unimatrix9, sudo mk2fs.vfat /dev/sda
[06:54] <eyalw> hi
[06:54] <neozen> Recyclable: or lynx
[06:54] <eyalw> anyone with macBook here?
[06:54] <neozen> Recyclable: their pages should show up just fine in lynx
[06:55] <lattyware> coagen: I was about to say, with nVidia cards, you don't have to even mess with xorg.conf - the nvidia-settings app is great - It is now as good as windows with dual monitors. Literally click and drag until you have it.
[06:55] <eyalw> about to install ubuntu on a macbook which dual boot Win and OS X
[06:55] <unimatrix9> i wish i had an macbook...
[06:55] <Recyclable> neozen: if I found the site that I followed to install it, would it be obvious what i've messed up?
[06:55] <neozen> eyalw: eeeeeyow....
[06:55] <eyalw> neozen: ?
[06:55] <neozen> Recyclable: don't know
[06:55] <wesley_> LjL: aptitude hold vnc4server does the trick
[06:55] <coagen> lattyware: really? wow I havent tried that one yet
[06:56] <neozen> Recyclable: I'd fire off an email to they person so they fix their instructions
[06:56] <baktaah_> Anyone know of an application that records the screen (like fraps but for linux- ubuntu), preferably with good quality.
[06:56] <eyalw> neozen: does 6.10 installs GRUB?
[06:56] <Recyclable> neozen: I'll boot windows and have a poke around then, brb
[06:56] <neozen> Recyclable: lol... sorry mon
[06:56] <unimatrix9> is wesley dancing bare foot?
[06:56] <neozen> eyalw: probably
[06:56] <eyalw> neozen: u familier with the complexity of triple booting on a macbook?
[06:56] <Recyclable> neozen: np, cheers :)
[06:57] <meme-1> Can someone please help with this annoying ubuntu problem? I am finding that most applications do not show my network volumes in "places" - file loading dialog. So far, the ONLY app that shows my network volumes in "places" is Open Office.
[06:57] <neozen> eyalw: no... but I can imagine its #$#@$#@$@#$@$E#@!@!#!@
[06:57] <neozen> eyalw: horrible
[06:57] <neozen> lol
[06:57] <guardianx_> how do i brows a window workgroup while on on ubuntu?
[06:57] <eyalw> neozen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187465
[06:57] <guardianx_> how do i brows a window workgroup while on on ubuntu?
[06:58] <renz_> neozen: i have found where the link points to, it's not the same as the whereis result. where do i go from here? sorry if too basic?
[06:58] <NineLives> How can I get my scanner to work. It's an HP 6200c, Sane says its supported in the default HP package, but nothing in ubuntu sees it. I used to have it working just fine in gentoo.
[06:58] <unimatrix9> unplug it and replug ( if its usb )?
[06:59] <kofler> If someone could please take a look at this and see if they could help me out, it'd be much appreciated: http://phpfi.com/220398
[06:59] <kofler> I replaced the ip address in octal form (123.456.789.012) with ip_address and the username with networkuser.
[07:00] <guardianx_> how do i brows a window workgroup while on on ubuntu?
[07:00] <jetsaredim> is there a way to reinstall all the packages on my system
[07:00] <NineLives> unimatrix9, i've tried that many times
[07:00] <guardianx_> how do i brows a window workgroup while on on ubuntu?
[07:00] <unimatrix9> hmm, to bad that it does not help
[07:01] <rambo3> jetsaredim, like dpkg --configure -a ?
[07:01] <unimatrix9> use locations network
[07:01] <jetsaredim> rambo3: umm - maybe
[07:01] <meme-1> guardianx: from the file browser you could type in smb://network server name (in location)
[07:01] <unimatrix9> NineLives, and you tried to set it up with printer?
[07:02] <meme-1> Can someone please help with this annoying ubuntu problem? I am finding that most applications do not show my network volumes in "places" - file loading dialog. So far, the ONLY app that shows my network volumes in "places" is Open Office.
[07:02] <scapor> Is it safe to install Ubuntu next to Windows XP ?  XP is on an NTFS partition.  Is it possible to resize windows' partition to make place for ubuntu without losing data ?
[07:02] <NineLives> unimatrix9, why would i setup a scanner as a printer?
[07:02] <renz_> neozen: thnx for your help, i think i've got it.
[07:02] <unimatrix9> ah its a scanner ,sorry my mistake
[07:02] <Recyclable`> neozen: aha!
[07:02] <dauoalagio2> hello, what's a good program in Gnome for developing? Python, preferred.
[07:02] <Recyclable`> neozen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:03] <meme-1> scapor: the Ubuntu CD/DVD will set up a boot manager for you - you select OS at boot up.. make sure you have space for Linux volumes (EXT3/Swap/etc)
[07:03] <eyalw> any mac owner?
[07:03] <Recyclable`> I got to the stage where it says try it out then everything died
[07:03] <preaction> dauoalagio2: gvim, or just vim
[07:03] <scapor> meme-1: right, but will it resize an existing NTFS partition without risk of losing data ?
[07:03] <neozen> Recyclable`: you installs off the official guide ... and it didn't work
[07:04] <meme-1> scapor: yes
[07:04] <neozen> Recyclable`: DEFINATELY submit a report
[07:04] <Recyclable`> neozen: apparently so :/
[07:04] <scapor> meme-1: Ok thanks
[07:04] <meme-1> scapor: BUT backup first just in case
[07:04] <dauoalagio2> preaction: i'd rather have a program for it.
[07:04] <unimatrix9> NineLives, you already tried in terminal sane-find-scanner ?
[07:04] <preaction> dauoalagio2: what do you mean "a program for it"? you mean an IDE?
[07:04] <NineLives> unimatrix9, yep, it says none found
[07:04] <scapor> meme-1: right, but I'd like to give a friend an Ubuntu CD but I want to be sure he woudlnt lose it al
[07:04] <dauoalagio2> preaction: yeah
[07:05] <jetsaredim> is there a way to for reinstall of all packages on my system?
[07:05] <neozen> Recyclable`: yeah... that's wrong.... please submit a report
[07:05] <jetsaredim> s/for/force/
[07:05] <jeanre> any one here use svn?
[07:05] <Tchaka> Hi!
[07:05] <Cheetah> hey ;)
[07:05] <Cheetah> jeanre, I use SVN
[07:05] <Recyclable`> neozen: sec, I may have found where I went wrong, brb
[07:05] <octoberdan> Does Ubuntu have any packages for business management? Something like ACT, but for linux? Maybe even a kind of all in one customizable calendar, contact info, and notepad application sort of dealy.
[07:05] <meme-1> scapor: Basically it is just smart to never 100% trust the technology. Always do a backup first.  Where do I find that?
[07:06] <peaker> cause AMD64 probably can run and install a normal 32-bit os, can't it?
[07:07] <preaction> dauoalagio2: how about: idle, eric-python2.5, or kate?
[07:07] <Cheetah> I'm looking for a more powerful screenshot tool than the one coming with ubuntu by default
[07:07] <Cheetah> any ideas?
[07:07] <NineLives> octoberdan, check out evolution, it's designed to be an outlook replacement, it even have a exchange plugin
[07:07] <Cheetah> jeanre, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:07] <jeanre> Cheetah: thats the error
[07:07] <dauoalagio2> preaction: never heard of them bite kate
[07:07] <dauoalagio2> but**
[07:07] <meme-1> Asking again... am I being ignored? lol  Can someone please help with this annoying ubuntu problem? I am finding that most applications do not show my network volumes in "places" - file loading dialog. So far, the ONLY app that shows my network volumes in "places" is Open Office.
[07:07] <jeanre>   405 Method Not Allowed (http://localhost)
[07:07] <Cheetah> jeanre, i didn't get an yerrors via pm
[07:07] <unimatrix9> NineLives, seems to be an very difficult and not wel supported device
[07:07] <unimatrix9> HP 6200
[07:08] <Cheetah> please paste them to the pasteboard
[07:08] <jeeves_moss> can anyone help me with my Athoes card?  It works occasionaly, and it's starting to piss me off.
[07:08] <jeanre> Cheetah: its one line
[07:08] <unimatrix9> HP 6200c not well supported under al linux brands...
[07:08] <NineLives> unimatrix9, it's been fully supported for many years, it just doesn't work in ubuntu for me
[07:08] <unimatrix9> hmm?
[07:09] <Rhoruns> can someone help me with an installation problem i'm having? after installing from the live cd, it tells me to take out the cd, close the tray, and press enter to continue. but pressing enter does absolutely nothing, and it just hangs there for seemingly ever.
[07:09] <peaker> how to check if ubuntu on an AMD64 needs 64-bit drivers or 32-bit drivers? I assume 64, but maybe its running in 32-bit mode?
[07:09] <unimatrix9> well, cant be of much help, to bad sorry , maybe some one here has the same device and can be of more help
[07:09] <unimatrix9> HP 6200c , who has one?
[07:09] <unimatrix9> scanner...ubuntu!
[07:09] <Cheetah> jeanre, does the error happen to the server or the client?
[07:10] <octoberdan> NineLives: Thank you, I will.
[07:10] <neozen> Rhoruns: just kill the power... and turn it back on
[07:10] <neozen> Rhoruns: happens sometimes
[07:10] <NineLives> unimatrix9, redhat, fedora, suse, gentoo, it worked in all, and they all use the same sane package, it should work in ubuntu but it isn't
[07:10] <neil__> Hey guys, how do i 'fork' a terminal, is that the right command?  LOL
[07:11] <neozen> guys... what's error 17?
[07:11] <Rhoruns> did i screw something up bad..?
[07:11] <preaction> neil__: you want to run that command but still have the terminal to enter more commands?
[07:11] <Baktaah> Anyone know of an application to record the screen and an application to use with it to edit, preferably good quality so small text is visible,.
[07:12] <preaction> neil__: do you want the command to exit when the terminal is closed as well?
[07:12] <neil__> yeah exactly, otherwise it sits at the server monitor window as it were
[07:12] <neil__> command needs to stay going
[07:12] <neozen> Rhoruns: possibly....
[07:12] <Rhoruns> baktaah, i know for sure that there is a app. but i forgot the name.. lol
[07:12] <neil__> Needs to leave the daemon running, but the terminal just sits there with the output
[07:12] <neil__> ie 'connection success' 'error whatever' etc
[07:12] <Rhoruns> neozen, i i reinstalled like 3 times, and it always does the same thing
[07:12] <preaction> neil__: first part: putting an & at the end (python sabnzbd.py &) will put the process in the background
[07:12] <neil__> I want it to stay running but detach from my terminal
[07:13] <Sonic_13_> !ftp
[07:13] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:13] <preaction> neil__: second part: using "nohup" will stop the process from dying when it gets SIGHUP (which closing a terminal will do to all processes in that terminal)
[07:13] <Rhoruns> baktaah, i'm pretty that recording app. start with an 'n'
[07:13] <Baktaah> Rhoruns  dude let me know when ure memory jumps back
[07:13] <neozen> gftp rules
[07:13] <unimatrix9> fireftp , its an plugin for firefox
[07:13] <neil__> uh huh, how do I give nohup?
[07:13] <Rhoruns> baktaah, ok :)(
[07:13] <preaction> neil__: man nohup
[07:13] <neil__> Do background processes persist on log off?
[07:13] <neil__> thanks
[07:14] <preaction> neil__: using nohup, probably not. you might want to write an init.d script that will run your server program
[07:14] <Recyclable`> neozen: I think I just found one of my problems
[07:14] <Rhoruns> neozen, could it have something to do with the fact that i installed GRUB on the same drive that i installed Ubuntu?
[07:14] <preaction> neil__: iirc when you logoff, your processes get SIGTERM and SIGKILL
[07:14] <Recyclable`> neozen: I think I accidentally "completely removed" firefox in synaptic :/
[07:14] <neil__> ok preaction, thankyou :)
[07:15] <neozen> Rhoruns: no.. usually you want to do that
[07:15] <neozen> Recyclable`: hmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:15] <Rhoruns> oh ok.
[07:15] <neozen> Recyclable`: yep... that'd do it
[07:15] <NineLives> baktaah_, check out xvidcap
[07:15] <Recyclable`> neozen: arf. any fix?
[07:15] <preaction> neil__: any troubles with the manpage, feel free to ask
[07:15] <neozen> Recyclable`: sure "completely" put it back ::grins::
[07:15] <Cheetah> hmm, has anyone experimented with the linutop box yet? ;)
[07:15] <Rhoruns> GRUB doesnt let me boot up to windows either. it's says it cant boot up that type of executable or something...
[07:15] <neozen> Recyclable`: sorry... don't know
[07:15] <assasukasse> i wanna install vmware, it wants to install on /usr/bin, should i install there or somewhere else? (to prevent deinstallation problems?)
[07:15] <Recyclable`> neozen: hahaha ok :p
[07:16] <Rhoruns> but i cant boot up windows when i set mky BIOS to boot from that drive, however.
[07:16] <Rhoruns> can****
[07:16] <guardianx_> when i pick network server.. i see WINDOW NETWORK click and see workgroup but once i click that i get. couldnt display content of windows network
[07:17] <neozen> OH
[07:17] <lattyware> Hey all. Still getting the modprobe failed error whenever I boot ubuntu.
[07:17] <neozen> I gotcha
[07:17] <Rhoruns> where/how does GRUB install (to) ? does it install to the default partition? or does it install to that 'swap' partition?
[07:17] <boarderwinterman> lattyware go to #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <boarderwinterman> supportchannel
[07:17] <neozen> Rhoruns: I honestly... don't know
[07:17] <Rhoruns> ok... :(
[07:17] <neozen> Rhoruns: but someone else in here should be able to help
[07:18] <guardianx_> when i pick network server.. i see WINDOW NETWORK click and see workgroup but once i click that i get. couldnt display content of windows network
[07:18] <neozen> Rhoruns: just say you're getting error 17, then provide details
[07:18] <Rhoruns> doubtful.. everyone's so busy and stuff in here.. heh
[07:18] <Rhoruns> i'll just dig through ubuntu's site for now. :P
[07:18] <octoberdan> Is it possible to install ubuntu with neither cdrom nor floppy drive?
[07:19] <Rhoruns> yes
[07:19] <Rhoruns> you can install with a dvd drive :D
[07:19] <guardianx_> when i pick network server.. i see WINDOW NETWORK click and see workgroup but once i click that i get. couldnt display content of windows network
[07:19] <Baktaah> Anyone know of an application to recurd/capture the screen and then another program to edit it (add text bubbles and music) preferably good quality so the text gets visible.
[07:19] <rredd4> Rhoruns it is part of the default partition, mbr, master boot record
[07:19] <CheshireViking> Rhoruns, on my dual boot systems, grub has installed itself to hda, with the menu.lst installed to hdb
[07:19] <octoberdan> Rhoruns: hehe, I mean with hard drive and internet connection alone
[07:19] <octoberdan> Rhoruns: and another OS
[07:19] <Rhoruns> hmm..
[07:19] <octoberdan> Rhoruns: I found a tutorial once for doing it with Debian
[07:20] <guardianx_> how do i get ubuntu to join a window workgroup??
[07:20] <Rhoruns> you might be able to mount an image over a network, but that's pretty complex without an OS :P
[07:21] <preaction> !samba | guardianx_
[07:21] <ubotu> guardianx_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:21] <rredd4> is Feisty going to be lts?
[07:21] <biberao> hey
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> rredd4: no
[07:21] <rredd4> ty
[07:21] <octoberdan> Rhoruns: I have an OS, two in fact. Fedora Core and Windows XP. Both of which... blwo.
[07:21] <shafto> When i try run a program using the ALSA driver, I get this error ALSA lib pcm_asym.c:106:(_snd_pcm_asym_open) capture slave is not defined
[07:21] <shafto> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory, any help?
[07:21] <K3nto> !commands
[07:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:21] <octoberdan> *blow
[07:22] <Rhoruns> rredd4, i have hdc, and hdd. my windows installation is on hdc, and appearantly the MBR is on that, but i dont see it in it's own partition. so when Ubuntu wanted to install GRUB to HDC, i was worried that it would compress my windows partion and ultimately corrupt or delete.
[07:22] <pepa> some tip for SIP server under Fedora ?
[07:22] <dws> is there a way to see my external ip from linux?
[07:22] <Rhoruns> rredd4, btw, i want to install ubuntu to HDD
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> dws: http://www.whatismyip.com/ is the best way I've found
[07:22] <dws> i mean through the cli
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> dws: not that I'm aware of
[07:22] <Rhoruns> HDA and HDB are taken up by my SATA drives, for storage.
[07:23] <preaction> Rhoruns: the MBR is a separate part of the partition. nothing would've been altered or changed in Windows
[07:23] <Rhoruns> ohh
[07:23] <muddy> I have a problem I need talked through
[07:23] <Rhoruns> that's awesome.. thanks so much. so installing GRUB on HDC, and that boot record on HDC is not a problem?
[07:23] <dogmeat> folks which package has an rar decompress util?
[07:23] <Menasim1> how can I make a .rm file .wav?
[07:23] <preaction> Rhoruns: if your BIOS knows that HDC is where it should go to boot, then should not be problem
[07:24] <kitche> dogmeat: umm unrar
[07:24] <Pici> !rar | dogmeat
[07:24] <Rhoruns> ohh, ok. so i ALWAYS want my MBR to boot first?
[07:24] <ubotu> dogmeat: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:24] <rredd4> Rhoruns  grub should be on hdc, as far as putting ubuntu on hdd, someone else will have to help you..
[07:24] <muddy> Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to to mount root fs on unknown - block (0,0)
[07:24] <renz_> anyone with wildfire IM server experience?
[07:24] <Recyclable> could someone do me a huge favour?
[07:24] <muddy> Sound familiar?
[07:24] <Menasim1> ?
[07:24] <Rhoruns> dang..
[07:24] <Rhoruns> lol
[07:24] <foutrelis> hey guys :)
[07:24] <Recyclable> could someone open synaptic for me
[07:24] <rredd4> Rhoruns I have to go to work
[07:24] <rredd4> aorry
[07:25] <Rhoruns> kk, cya later man.
[07:25] <neozen> Menasim1: only way I can think of.... is to get mplayer to be able to play rm
[07:25] <Recyclable> find firefox, click completely remove and then tell me what files it says it will remove?
[07:25] <neozen> Menasim1: then use its dump flag to dump to pcm
[07:25] <neozen> Menasim1: that'd do it
[07:25] <CheshireViking> Recyclable, can do, just give me a sec while some updates are downloaded & installed
[07:25] <neozen> Menasim1: research mplayer and real format
[07:25] <octoberdan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype !
[07:26] <foutrelis> Recyclable: I don't quite understand your scope. What do you need help with?
[07:26] <Pici> Menasim1: mencoder might be able to do it, but I'm not 100% sure
[07:26] <shafto> !pastebin
[07:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:26] <Pici> foutrelis: I think he wants to know what packages depend on firefox
[07:26] <dogmeat> !info unrar-free
[07:26] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:26] <Recyclable> foutrelis: what pici said
[07:26] <foutrelis> Pici: I see. :)
[07:27] <Recyclable> foutrelis: I just accidentally completely removed it and I don't know what else I removed :\
[07:27] <foutrelis> Recyclable: /me opens Synaptic :)
[07:28] <Pici> recyclable : Try `apt-cache rdepends firefox`
[07:28] <voicu> if i want to build something from source and the ./configure file has a --prefix option that means that everything will be installed in the directory i tell him to, right?
[07:29] <Recyclable> foutrelis: I missed it if you said something, my connection died :\
[07:29] <SurfnKid> dammit
[07:29] <SurfnKid> i need help this is happening over and over
[07:29] <SurfnKid> and I dont know how to fix
[07:29] <SurfnKid> or even explain
[07:29] <Pici> Recyclable : Try `apt-cache rdepends firefox`
[07:29] <jeeves_Moss> can anyone help me fix my WiFi card?  I installed Beryl and now it's flakey
[07:29] <CheshireViking> Recyclable, ekiga, firefox-gnome-support, gnome-app-install,gxine, mozilla-mplayer, pioneers-help, ubuntu-desktop,ubuntu-games, ubuntu-multimedia-gnome, yelp
[07:30] <Recyclable> thankyou :)
[07:30] <octoberdan> 7+
[07:31] <circlegreen> Hello, I have an AMD 2600+ with a GeForce 4 MX nForce integrated video card.  By default I am only able to get it to go to 800x600 as maximum resolution.  I've edited xorg.conf and just left "1024x768" as a mode, still it reverts to 800x600.  Why is this happening?
[07:32] <foutrelis> Recyclable: Pici's suggestion looks very professional and correct. For what's worth here my screenshot too: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8917/ffcb1.png
[07:32] <Recyclable> cheers foutrelis :)
[07:33] <meme-2> Is anyone out there using ubuntu on a network?
[07:33] <muddy> Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to to mount root fs on unknown - block (0,0)......help?
[07:34] <peaker> muddy: when is this happening?
[07:34] <muddy> when I first try to boot up
[07:34] <meme-2> Is anyone out there using ubuntu on a network?
[07:34] <muddy> peaker, But I can boot up fine in graphical safe mode
[07:34] <peaker> muddy: how did you install? when did this happen?
[07:35] <peaker> muddy: did you compile your own kernel?
[07:35] <muddy> Peaker, I installed using the live cd, it happened the first time I restarted after updating
[07:35] <muddy> peaker, no, dunno how...
[07:35] <guardianx_> how do i create a shortcut to run a program in this example i would like to run eboard.
[07:35] <muddy> I am a complete n00b
[07:36] <peaker> muddy: after updating?
[07:36] <peaker> muddy: after updating what?
[07:36] <shafto> Everytime I try to use ALSA in a program, i get this error ALSA lib pcm_asym.c:106:(_snd_pcm_asym_open) capture slave is not defined? Any help?ALSA lib pcm_asym.c:106:(_snd_pcm_asym_open) capture slave is not defined? Any help?
[07:36] <circlegreen> Does anyone know why X.org is reverting to 800x600?  (Please review my question above.)
[07:36] <muddy> Peaker, once I installed, my update manager (in the top tray) told me I have 161 updates
[07:36] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  WiFi fix after installing Beryl?
[07:37] <peaker> muddy: ah
[07:37] <meme-2> Is anyone out there using ubuntu on a network? Why are most Linux (or at least in ubuntu) apps only capable of running in local mode... making it "impossible" to load files from a network?
[07:37] <peaker> muddy: when you boot in graphical safe mode, do you have a network? can you try seeing if your update worked and everything is up-to-date?
[07:37] <Pici> meme-2: I'm not really sure what you're asking. Obviously most of us here are running ubuntu on some sort of network.
[07:38] <peaker> meme-2: I use kubuntu and KDE apps can all access smb:// for samba, ftp:// or whatever else my browser can
[07:38] <muddy> peaker, I did an alt+F2 and checked, it's all up to date
[07:38] <meme-2> peaker: Even using smb://..... yields the error, ""cannot change to folder because it is not local"
[07:38] <peaker> muddy: I *think* the difference between safe mode and normal is just a kernel version - which means your normal kernel is screwed up or so
[07:38] <peaker> is it true guys? Safe mode just uses a different kernel, or..?
[07:39] <muddy> peaker, if that's true, can I fix it from here?
[07:39] <meme-2> peaker: I have absolutely no troubles with Open Office but it seems to be the only app that works with my network
[07:39] <peaker> meme-2: in what program?
[07:39] <peaker> meme-2: you get that problem in what app?
[07:39] <LjL> peaker: if you mean recovery mode, it just boots single user
[07:39] <jeeves_Moss> muddy:  are you any good with WiFi problems?
[07:39] <LjL> peaker: booting an older kernel is certainly a valid troubleshooting option if a new kernel fails to work
[07:39] <meme-2> peaker: What program.... so far Xara Xtreme, Amaya... name something, it probably won't work.
[07:39] <jeeves_Moss> LjL;  there you are.  Can you help me with this WiFi issue?
[07:39] <peaker> muddy: you can try to reinstall the kernel package:  in a terminal: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kernel-image-XXX where XXX is your kernel version.  you can find that out if you look at existing installed kernel images in your graphical package manager
[07:40] <LjL> jeeves_Moss: sorry but i've never had any wifi gear
[07:40] <peaker> muddy: hell you may be able to reinstall your kernel package from the graphical interface
[07:40] <guardianx_> man ubuntu blows
[07:40] <Pici> meme-2: Some linux applications have problems resolving smb:// pathnames.    I live my life wirelessly
[07:40] <peaker> meme-2: oh, I donno I use kubunut/kde
[07:40] <guardianx_> dont know wtf is causing it to crash
[07:40] <LjL> !language | guardianx_
[07:40] <ubotu> guardianx_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:40] <guardianx_> i'm about to quit this and and head back to winxp camp
[07:40] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: Beryl has absolutely nothing to do with wifi.
[07:40] <LjL> guardianx_: also, complaining randomly isn't going to help. if you have a specific question, just ask it
[07:40] <peaker> LjL: muddy has a problem, his safe mode works, but normal boot fails to mount root fs
[07:40] <fbc> meme-2: Ain't that the truth... especially with f-stop.
[07:41] <meme-2> Pici: mounted to a directory?
[07:41] <hivemind> Hey everyone, I'm encountering some problems burning iso files onto a CD via GnomeBaker
[07:41] <guardianx_> it is hard to ask for help when terminal dont even start it jus quit on its own.. wtf is this crap
[07:41] <LjL> peaker: muddy might want to pastebin his /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[07:41] <peaker> muddy: can you run a graphical package manager and find out which kernel-image-* package is installed there?
[07:41] <octoberdan> +++++++++
[07:41] <peaker> LjL: tell it to muddy then :)
[07:41] <Krazyguy> anyone here a pro with beryl?
[07:41] <ferronica> any one how to open demonoid channel??
[07:41] <jeeves_Moss> Pici:  well, my WiFi worked fine untill I installed it.  then now when I switch to a shell (ctrl-alt-F1) and back, it gives my a black screen, and I have to reboot.  also, the WiFi won't connect to the access point occasionaly.
[07:41] <muddy> how do I do these things....I am a newb, remember....LOL
[07:41] <LjL> peaker: well, using his nickname should have highlighted him ;)
[07:42] <foutrelis> I want to starn practising with Python. Any good IDEs?
[07:42] <Krazyguy> ferronica
[07:42] <kitche> foutrelis: IDLE it comes with python
[07:42] <Krazyguy> you have to connect to a different server
[07:42] <LjL> muddy: hit Alt+F2, then type  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , then select everything, then paste it to the pastebin
[07:42] <Pici> meme-2: For example: `mount -t smbfs -o username=Pici \\windowscomputer\share \media\windows`  Thats how I mount my shared files at home.
[07:42] <Arrick> jrib you at school?
[07:42] <LjL> !pastebin > muddy    (muddy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:42] <guardianx_> blah screw this i'm switching back to winxp... good day linux i guess u guys have a few more hundred yrs to catch up
[07:42] <peaker> foutrelis: It comes with IDLE but I don't like it.  Emacs has reasonable support for a built in active shell, but nothing fancy
[07:42] <meme-2> Pici: what did you mean by, Some linux applications have problems resolving smb:// pathnames.  They need to be mounted to a directory to work properly.
[07:42] <RoundyT1> join /#debian
[07:42] <RoundyT1> lol
[07:42] <ferronica> Krazyguy: which one???
[07:42] <Krazyguy> let me look
[07:42] <peaker> foutrelis: there are various IDE's that are in the respoistory, just search python ide in it
[07:42] <meme-2> Pici: sorry... got that
[07:42] <foutrelis> kitche, peaker, thanks much :)
[07:43] <jeeves_Moss> PiCi:  are yo able to help me fix this WiFi issue then?
[07:43] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: Did you do anything else besides install Beryl?
[07:43] <Krazyguy> rc.p2p-network.net, and join the channel #Demonoid
[07:43] <jeeves_Moss> Pici:  just the nVidia drivers to make Beryl run
[07:43] <Krazyguy> irc.p2p-network.net, and join the channel #Demonoid
[07:43] <peaker> brb
[07:43] <muddy> where do I do the paste bin thing?
[07:43] <LjL> !pastebin | muddy
[07:43] <ubotu> muddy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <Krazyguy> did you get that ferronica
[07:44] <jeeves_Moss> PiCi:  thankfully, I have a PCMCIA WiFi card that's allowing me to be on-line right now.  the internal card won't connect.
[07:44] <ferronica> Krazyguy: this i have to put when i login
[07:44] <henull> is at able to get hamachi for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:44] <Krazyguy> yeah
[07:44] <Krazyguy> add that server
[07:44] <daddyman> real player codec???  how to and where??
[07:44] <muddy> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:45] <Krazyguy> anyone up for helping out with beryl?
[07:45] <daddyman> all I can find is a bin file...
[07:45] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: 1) your problem getting to tty1-6 is probably related to a framebuffer issue.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer for information how to fix.
[07:45] <LjL> muddy, the idea is that i type a ! command, and ubotu says something relevant. either in a private message (as it did the first time), or in the channel while addressing your nickname (as it did before), or just in the channel (as you just asked it to)
[07:46] <muddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12348/      like that?
[07:46] <muddy> :D
[07:46] <Kevlar_Soul> FREE  VISIO for Linux  http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Download
[07:46] <jeeves_Moss> PiCi:  thanks, I'll have a look
[07:46] <LjL> muddy: yes, like that
[07:46] <muddy> cool
[07:47] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: 2) When you installed your wifi card, did you have to compile anything? I'm guessing that if you installed the nvidia drivers, you might have gotten a new kernel version and you'll have to recompile the wifi drivers against that.
[07:47] <muddy> I'm a pretty smart guy, but this is all so new, kinda like walking on ice with fire boots on...LOL
[07:47] <jeeves_Moss> PiCi:  the WiFi card worked straight out of the install
[07:47] <LjL> muddy: the problem doesn't seem to be there, however. what exactly happens when you try to boot in normal mode?
[07:47] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: But thats only of course if your computer doesnt see it in `iconfig` with wireless extensions
[07:47] <Pici> jeeves_Moss: Do you see it in `iwconfig`?
[07:48] <jeeves_Moss> Pici:  it sees it, and I can use the connection manager to see it, and attempt to configure it.  I've used the SAME info to configure it as I did the other card, and it STILL won't work
[07:48] <muddy> the kernel error pops up after it says, starting...
[07:48] <rockzman> Does anyone know a ISA firewall client for linux/ubuntu ? Cause I am behind an ISA server and no Clue how to access internet
[07:48] <LjL> muddy: what does it say?
[07:48] <muddy> LjL, Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (0,0)
[07:49] <Krazyguy> I need beryl help :)
[07:49] <crakdos> name crakdOS
[07:49] <LjL> muddy: and in recovery mode (still with kernel version 2.6.17-11, not 2.6.17-10) it just gets you to a shell prompt?
[07:50] <Arrick> anyone have a link to a gui tat instructs how to get ASP.net working on the 6.06.1 server LAMP install?
[07:50] <foutrelis> Krazyguy: You can try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects :)
[07:50] <Krazyguy> thanks
[07:50] <Krazyguy> for the tip
[07:50] <ferronica> Krazyguy: where i put irc.p2p-network.net
[07:50] <muddy> LjL...shell prompt?   When I boot up, I hit esc and choose the 3rd option,  then it boots up the GUI, it's not like normal mode, but it works
[07:50] <AaronCampbell> I just finished building a new system, and I'm trying to instll Feisty (Kubuntu).  I'm having problems with my bluetooth kb/mouse.  They worked during boot (to choose install, etc), but once it booted, If I press a key I get "KBlueToothD .... Not paired"
[07:50] <Krazyguy> did you go to the link i sent you
[07:51] <Krazyguy> what irc client are you using?
[07:51] <ferronica> irc-->connect-->then????
[07:51] <Krazyguy> add that new server
[07:51] <ferronica> irc-->Xchat
[07:51] <Krazyguy> you might have to name it
[07:51] <rockzman> Does anyone know a ISA firewall client for linux/ubuntu ? Cause I am behind an ISA server and no Clue how to access internet
[07:51] <Krazyguy> xchat
[07:51] <foutrelis> AaronCampbell: Feisty is still BETA software. It should not be used for production environments. Please address your question to #ubuntu+1.
[07:51] <Krazyguy> network list
[07:51] <Krazyguy> +add
[07:51] <Krazyguy> irc.freenode.net
[07:51] <Krazyguy> edit
[07:51] <ferronica> Krazyguy: yes Xchat
[07:52] <Krazyguy> then put that server in the server field
[07:52] <ferronica> Krazyguy: there is no option for add and edit
[07:52] <LjL> muddy: oh, then that's not recovery mode... it's just the previous kernel. you're using 2.6.17-10 instead of 2.6.17-11. guess there must be some incompatibility between 2.6.17-11 and your hardware - just keep using 2.6.17-10 for now. you can have that as default by changing the line that says "default 0" into "default 2" in that file i made you edit
[07:52] <Krazyguy> hmm
[07:52] <Krazyguy> im using xchat also
[07:52] <Recyclable> what comes after apt-get update?
[07:53] <Kevlar_Soul> CVS
[07:53] <Kevlar_Soul> The latest bleeding edge version can be found in the Gnome CVS
[07:53] <Kevlar_Soul> What does that mean, CVS?
[07:53] <muddy> LjL, I didn't edit anything...
[07:53] <Krazyguy> nothing under the network list?
[07:53] <foutrelis> Recyclable: apt-get upgrade
[07:53] <Kevlar_Soul> !cvs
[07:53] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:53] <ferronica> Krazyguy: you mean edit--preference
[07:53] <Recyclable> after apt-get upgrade?
[07:53] <LjL> muddy, yes you did, i told you to type  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , that is what you did in order to pastebin, and that is called "editing a file"
[07:53] <AaronCampbell> foutrelis: Thanks.  I just saw no reason to go with 6.10 (or whatever) for a new system...if this will be out of beta within a month
[07:53] <foutrelis> Recyclable: nothing I think :)
[07:53] <Recyclable> :/
[07:53] <Recyclable> ok
[07:53] <LjL> muddy: just do it again (if you've closed the window before) and change it like i said
[07:53] <muddy> so if I reboot, all will be well?
[07:53] <CheshireViking> ferronica, which version of xchat are you using? xchat, or xchat-gnome - click Help & About to find out which one, maybe there's a difference
[07:54] <Tatster> Hi all.  I'm, trying to install server edition but having trouble with LVM partitons
[07:54] <foutrelis> AaronCampbell: Yeah. Feisty's official release data is really close :P
[07:54] <ferronica> cheshireviking: Xchat-GNOME
[07:54] <foutrelis> *date
[07:55] <r4nge> how do i change the resolution on my console server box?
[07:55] <Tatster> I have a 250Gb drive that I want to use LVM and then have a boot partion of 100Mb, / of 40Gb, /opt 100Gb and /media 100Gb - does this seem sensible?
[07:55] <ferronica> Krazyguy: you mean edit--preference
[07:55] <muddy> LjL, I don't understand, I am sorry for being stupid   :(
[07:55] <Krazyguy> if you can find the servers there
[07:55] <Krazyguy> yeah
[07:55] <ferronica> Krazyguy: you mean edit--preference--Networks
[07:55] <Krazyguy> that would work
[07:55] <Krazyguy> yeah
[07:55] <Agrajag> Tatster: Do you really need 40 GB for /?
[07:55] <CheshireViking> Ferronica, that may explain why your version is different to Krazyguy - I don't use your version, but the instructions Krazyguy was giving you worked on my xchat (not the gnome version)
[07:56] <Krazyguy> yeah what version are you using
[07:56] <foutrelis> r4nge: Check this out http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Howto_Change_Font_Size_During_Boot_Framebuffer_Resolution
[07:56] <Agrajag> Tatster: why not divide that into a smaller /, maybe 10GB at most, and the rest for /home?
[07:56] <ferronica> Krazyguy: you mean edit--preference--Networks---Add--Servers
[07:56] <Krazyguy> sure
[07:56] <Krazyguy> that sounds like it would work
[07:56] <ferronica> Krazyguy: you mean edit--preference--Networks---Add--Servers----Add
[07:56] <Tatster> I'm not sure - just seeking opinions.
[07:56] <Krazyguy> yeah
[07:56] <LjL> muddy: 1) hit Alt+F2    2) type  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    3) find the line that says  default 0    4) change it so that it says  default 2    5) hit the Close button
[07:57] <Tatster> Agrajag - that does make sense
[07:57] <Agrajag> Also, what are you puttin ginto /opt that's going to be that huge?
[07:57] <ferronica> Krazyguy: what i write there???
[07:57] <Krazyguy> you add the server
[07:57] <ferronica> irc.p2p-network.net
[07:57] <ferronica> Krazyguy: this
[07:57] <Krazyguy> try going here
[07:57] <Krazyguy> http://www.demonoid.com/chat.php
[07:57] <bithunter> hi! i searched the forums but couldn't find the right answer. i installed kubuntu-desktop a few days ago and now decided to stick with gnome/ubuntu. how can i remove all the packages that kubuntu-desktop pulled in? simply removing kubuntu-desktop won't do it, right?
[07:57] <Tatster> the trouble is when I try to set this up with LVM / partition disk in the installer, as soon as I create a partiton fromt he LVM disk it then says the rest is unuseable
[07:58] <ferronica> Krazyguy: i wanna join demonoid channel
[07:58] <dogmeat> folks im trying to install package unrar, but apparently it's not in my /etc/apt/sources.list file. which server has this package?
[07:58] <Krazyguy> yeah
[07:58] <ferronica> Krazyguy: what i write there in server???
[07:58] <Krazyguy> demonoid right
[07:58] <Krazyguy> the torrent site?
[07:58] <muddy> ok....
[07:58] <ferronica> Krazyguy: yes
[07:59] <Krazyguy> okay
[07:59] <Krazyguy> do you need an invite to demonoid?
[07:59] <Arrick> !ssh
[07:59] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:59] <foutrelis> !unrar | dogmeat
[07:59] <ubotu> dogmeat: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:59] <Tatster> Agrjag: opt was going to contain a samba share
[07:59] <ferronica> Krazyguy: why??
[07:59] <Krazyguy> nvm
[07:59] <Arrick> hey, does the 6.06.1 server install ssh by default, or no?
[07:59] <Krazyguy> try typing "connect irc.p2p-network.net"
[08:00] <Krazyguy> then join #demonoid
[08:00] <foutrelis> Arrick: I think not.
[08:00] <neozen> Arrick: yeah... you get ssh
[08:00] <Krazyguy> connect irc.p2p-network.net
[08:00] <foutrelis> oops :)
[08:00] <Arrick> ok, neozen how do I enable it
[08:00] <Arrick> I finally got a DL to actually work
[08:00] <neozen> Arrick: but you need to install openssh-server if you want to ssh into the box
[08:00] <ferronica> Krazyguy: in server
[08:00] <Arrick> ahh hok
[08:00] <Arrick> thats what i wanted to know
[08:00] <Arrick> thanks
[08:00] <Krazyguy> hmm
[08:00] <neozen> Arrick: no problem
[08:00] <Recyclable> neozen: lol i'm still without luck :\
[08:01] <neozen> Recyclable: AWWW
[08:01] <Krazyguy> im sorry I'm familiar with MIRC from windows :(
[08:01] <neozen> Recyclable: that's heartbreaking mon...
[08:01] <Recyclable> haha :p
[08:01] <Krazyguy> add that server and try to join #demonoid
[08:01] <Krazyguy> irc.p2p-network.net, and join the channel #Demonoid
[08:01] <panfist> could anyone help me configure rtorrent? the default /etc/init.d/rtorrent does not work on my system and i've tried for a long time to debug it
[08:01] <neozen> Recyclable: just install firefox somewhere in your tree....
[08:01] <Arrick> ok neozen what is the package manager in that server>?
[08:01] <Arrick> apt, aptitude?
[08:02] <Recyclable> think I might just get a cd for latest ubuntu ordered and do a fresh install tbh
[08:02] <neozen> Arrick: apt-get or aptitude will do just fine
[08:02] <Arrick> and do I need to setup sources differntly to get it?
[08:02] <Tatster> Agrajag: or the other way I have tried is to create partition within the LVM Vol group, but then I try to resize it to smaller it doesn't work
[08:02] <Krazyguy> ferronica , i have to go to class
[08:02] <neozen> Arrick: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:02] <Arrick> well, aptitude anyways
[08:02] <Krazyguy> http://www.demonoid.com/chat.php
[08:02] <Arrick> thanks
[08:02] <neozen> Arrick: be sure to update sources and upgrade
[08:02] <neozen> Arrick: lots of updates to dapper
[08:02] <GekiBlue> Has anyone had any luck installnig sugar on Ubuntu?
[08:02] <Arrick> ok, neozen how do I do that from command?
[08:03] <Arrick> and do i want to do that before installing?
[08:03] <Arrick> sorry, from terminal
[08:03] <neozen> arrick: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:03] <neozen> Arrick: yeah... do that before installing
[08:03] <neozen> Arrick: (in theory it shouldn't matter)
[08:03] <jimmy> what is the latest version of ubuntu server?
[08:03] <Arrick> ok how about if I dont want the 6.10, is it going to upgrade it anyways?
[08:03] <neozen> Arrick: but it will be one less thing to update
[08:03] <neozen> jimmy: latest version is edgy
[08:04] <neozen> jimmy: stable version that is
[08:04] <jimmy> 6.10 ?
[08:04] <neozen> jimmy: you don't want to run feisty on a production server
[08:04] <neozen> jimmy: yeah
[08:04] <neozen> jimmy: lol
[08:04] <jeanre> how does one enable php 4?
[08:04] <jeanre> on apache 2?
[08:04] <neozen> GAH
[08:04] <jimmy> neozen: what version # is fiesty?
[08:04] <Arrick> neozen I want to keep tis distro, not 6.10
[08:04] <Arrick> it has a longer support time
[08:04] <neozen> jeanre: php4? ...something wrong w/ php5?
[08:04] <dogmeat> i can't find a server that has unrar-nonfree, any suggestions?
[08:05] <neozen> Arrick: indeed :)
[08:05] <Arrick> so the upgrade wont fubar that for me will it?
[08:05] <neozen> Arrick: and you'll keep getting security updates... so don't worry about it
[08:05] <Arrick> ok
[08:05] <Bitmess> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a system where I already am running WinXp and Knoppix. I am using Acronis Boot Manager. Ubuntu .  hda1=windows primary, hda2=extended, hda4=knoppix, hda5=winxp d:   Ubuntu wants to put grub on hd0. Is this correct?
[08:05] <jimmy> neozen: what is the difference between 6.10 and 6.06 LTS? what does LTS stand for?
[08:05] <Arrick> long term services
[08:05] <neozen> Arrick: the upgrade upgrades your packages.... its not a full distribution upgrade
[08:05] <neozen> 6.10 is the newer version....
[08:06] <jeanre> how does one enable php 4 on apache2?
[08:06] <foutrelis> jeanre: For php4: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[08:06] <jimmy> Arrick: but 6.10 is still newer?
[08:06] <Arrick> sorry abotu that I hit the wrong key
[08:06] <Arrick> jimmy uhm, ask a regular that please
[08:06] <foutrelis> jeanre: That's after you have installed php4
[08:06] <Arrick> hey neozen what was the second half of that command again?
[08:06] <jeanre> I have it installed
[08:06] <neozen> 6.06.1 is the older version... but they've pledged to provide security updates in the repositories for 3 years from its creation
[08:06] <jeanre> its not wokring tho
[08:06] <Arrick> apt-get upgrade?
[08:07] <neozen> Arrick: sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:07] <neozen> yeah
[08:07] <Bitmess> Corrected=>I am trying to install Ubuntu on a system where I already am running WinXp and Knoppix. I am using Acronis Boot Manager.   hda1=windows primary, hda2=extended, hda4=knoppix, hda5=winxp d:   Ubuntu wants to put grub on hd0. Is this correct?
[08:07] <Arrick> ok
[08:07] <foutrelis> jeanre: Try the above command and see if it works.
[08:07] <stefan> -berlin
[08:07] <neozen> Bitmess: ohhhhhh hell
[08:07] <Rprp>   Bam-Bam ChanServ ConnectServ Duiv`hockey GameServ Global MemoServ NickServ OperServ Roconda Rprp`` Twofists Wesleysld
[08:07] <neozen> I'ma go quiet now
[08:09] <jeanre> foutrelis: ?
[08:09] <jeanre> which command
[08:09] <panfist> ok, so i subscribed to a mailing list for support for a program....how do i send a message to a mailing list?
[08:09] <Bitmess> :D
[08:09] <neozen> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[08:09] <neozen> jeanre: that one
[08:09] <dogmeat> im using edgy, and can't find a server that has unrar-nonfree, any ideas?
[08:09] <Arrick> neozen noooooo you cant go quiet, I just started with my quesitons
[08:09] <neozen> dogmeat: you need to add the multiverse
[08:09] <Bitmess> What is hd0?
[08:09] <neozen> Arrick: what was the last one?
[08:09] <jimmy> pentium D is 64 bit , right?
[08:09] <Arrick> neozen lol
[08:09] <Arrick> you answered it already
[08:09] <neozen> I hate getting snowed
[08:09] <foutrelis> Bitmess: You hard drive's MBR
[08:09] <neozen> lol
[08:09] <Bitmess> I don't wnat grub there!
[08:09] <foutrelis> Bitmess: Why? :P
[08:09] <neozen> Bitmess: well then put it in another computer ::grins::
[08:09] <Arrick> because it will wipe the acronis boot manager
[08:09] <Bitmess> Then I'll lose my boot loader
[08:09] <foutrelis> Bitmess: You can just re-enable Acronis then.. :)
[08:09] <Bitmess> Acronis
[08:10] <Bitmess> Hmm
[08:10] <Arrick> (should be using grub or lilo anyways)
[08:10] <neozen> lilo?
[08:10] <foutrelis> Bitmess: Just have an Acronis rescue media in hand ;)
[08:10] <neozen> people still use lilo?
[08:10] <foutrelis> Bitmess: and a valid serial
[08:10] <Bitmess> I have one. I'm affraid
[08:10] <jimmy> pentium d is 64 bit?
[08:10] <Arrick> are you sceered too?
[08:10] <Arrick> jimmy google
[08:10] <foutrelis> Bitmess: If you don't just boot with windows and build one.
[08:11] <Kizzy> Ubuntu or debian is better for notebook
[08:11] <neozen> aye...
[08:11] <neozen> it rule!
[08:11] <jeanre> foutrelis: and to enable mysql? because I am getting undefined mysql_connect
[08:12] <jeanre> even tho I install php4-mysql
[08:12] <foutrelis> jeanre: hmm
[08:12] <Bitmess> Where should I put grub?
[08:12] <Bitmess> It wants to use part#3 ad install. Maybe there?
[08:12] <Bitmess> It wants to use part#3 ads ubuntu install. Maybe there?
[08:13] <albacker> where do i get the iso of feisty ?
[08:13] <albacker> topic *
[08:13] <tienbkit> hi everybody
[08:13] <jimmy> Kizzy: ubunto for notebooks
[08:13] <foutrelis> jeanre: I only found php4-mysql and you said you have it installed :(
[08:13] <peaker> wireless settings in /etc/network/interfaces are edited properly, but COMPLETELY IGNORED by the ifup script in bootup and plugin
[08:13] <tienbkit> pl hepl me, how to play music online ???????/
[08:13] <peaker> Should I try to fix it or is it already addressed somehow?
[08:14] <neozen> !codecs | tienbkit
[08:14] <ubotu> tienbkit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <foutrelis> jeanre: Maybe sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin can install any other needed packages.
[08:14] <doug_> http://pastebin.arslinux.com/4620 - can someone have a look and tell me if this is the source of my problems please - ati radeon x800se pm me if you have an idea
[08:14] <PR0JECT> im thinking about making the switch to ubuntu.  The only concern i have is application.  can it emulate windows software?
[08:14] <neozen> tienbkit: that'll set you up... follow the directions
[08:14] <foutrelis> !wine | PR0JECT
[08:14] <ubotu> PR0JECT: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:15] <peaker> PR0JECT: not well. what applications do you want?
[08:15] <foutrelis> I don't use it though.
[08:15] <tienbkit> ok
[08:15] <tienbkit> thanks a lot
[08:15] <PR0JECT> flash/dreamweaver/photoshop/illustratir
[08:15] <tienbkit> i will try to do it
[08:15] <PR0JECT> or*
[08:15] <Ian_> you would need windows emulator
[08:15] <Kizzy> my notebook is Aristo Prestige 1600
[08:15] <Hellabunna> What's a good program for cutting parts from a movie then putting them into a new movie? For cutting multiple parts not just one?
[08:15] <Bitmess> Ok, Acronis boot disk it is. Thanks!
[08:16] <neozen> PR0JECT: flash yes, flash creation is iffy.... take a look @ the winehq ... and look around for open reports on applications you want to run
[08:16] <PR0JECT> Ian_:does the windows emulator run the programs as fast as it would in windows?
[08:16] <PR0JECT> im looking at flash development, not the player
[08:16] <peaker> PR0JECT: sometimes slower, sometimes faster, depends which program. A lot simply don't work well or have weird bugs
[08:16] <neozen> PR0JECT: if you have the money to burn.... cadega might be more your style
[08:16] <doug_> PR0JECT:  there is no significant differences in speed
[08:17] <mbdl> why is it that i have a collection of 2 extra floppy drives and 1 extra cd drive...that r not in my computer
[08:17] <doug_> are*
[08:17] <krang> Does anyone know if the root filesystem has to be installed to a primary partition? I'm trying to install 6.10 to a logical volume, but at the "prepare partitions" screen it won't let me past, claiming "No root file system"
[08:17] <Ian_> can anyone help me. i want to know if its possible to get squid to work, i am behind a firewall at work, that i have zero rights to. I dont even know where it is physically to pour coffee in it. at moment squid is not working.
[08:17] <PR0JECT> im most worried about performance..  does ubuntu have an equivelent for dreamweaver or flash dev?
[08:18] <neozen> PR0JECT: not to my knowledge
[08:18] <foutrelis> PR0JECT: I'm afraid not. For flash at least
[08:18] <neozen> pr0but my knowledge is limited in that area
[08:18] <neozen> *pr0ject: but
[08:19] <PR0JECT> neozen:but.....??)
[08:19] <neozen> correction for the line above
[08:19] <PR0JECT> fr whats it's worth i dont give a shit about gameing..
[08:19] <PR0JECT> ah, ok
[08:20] <Ian_> i read some stuff about parent cache, but not right clear on how to do it
[08:20] <mbdl> why is it that i have a collection of 2 extra floppy drives and 1 extra cd drive...that r not in my computer
[08:20] <neozen> PR0JECT: then in that case... linux would be ideal for you... once you get dreamweaver to play nice
[08:20] <peaker> I think there is a trivial error that makes wireless always fail out of the box
[08:20] <variant> I have a webcam that doesn't work.. it's a v-gear talkcam pro. anyone know if there is a driver for it?
[08:21] <PR0JECT> well i only really want dreamweaver becasue it colour codes..  and im sure there are alternatives to that out there.
[08:21] <peaker> and I am trying to debug it. Does anyone else have wireless that works for him, without having to use manual iwconfig tools?
[08:21] <foutrelis> Photoshop froze on me. Maybe 'cause win partition is mounted read only. :\
[08:22] <jeanre> hmmm wtf is up php not working with mysql
[08:22] <lordvaygor16> can someone help im having trouble with a thing called GRUB
[08:22] <Ian_> anyone know about squid proxy setup from behind a firewall i cant configure?
[08:22] <neozen> variant: if there was, the video4linux site would have info on it
[08:23] <neozen> variant: google video4linux
[08:23] <PeterR> Hi there, i'm having a little trouble with installing ubuntu on my computer: I have burned the ISO file onto a disk, and when I put it into my computer and restart, nothing happens, it just boots on windows :-/
[08:23] <beoba> hi, i errantly deleted /etc/init.d/postfix, and it looks like the postfix package does not include this file, where can i obtain it?
[08:23] <variant> neozen: thnx
[08:23] <PeterR> Any advice?
[08:23] <neozen> variant: np
[08:23] <foutrelis> PeterR: You need to set in your BIOS to boot from it first
[08:23] <sacater> PeterR: yes, check the boot order in your BIOS
[08:23] <neozen> lordvaygor16: we're going to need more info .... GRUB is the bootloader for linux
[08:23] <lordvaygor16> on GRUB linux is set as the default OS and i dont want it to be
[08:23] <neozen> lordvaygor16: ahhhh
[08:23] <lordvaygor16> how do i configure the default os?
[08:24] <neozen> lordvaygor16: that we can answer
[08:24] <PeterR> foutrelis/sacater: Where will i find the BIOS?
[08:24] <sacater> lordvaygor16: go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:24] <mbdl> how do u look at your device you have and edit them... i know theres a way to open terminal and type somehting in
[08:24] <motivator> hello
[08:24] <sacater> lordvaygor16: edit that
[08:24] <neozen> PeterR: when you boot up.... you will see some keys to press ... you want to poke the one for setup ... or boot menu
[08:24] <lordvaygor16> sacater:ok
[08:24] <sacater> mbdl: to SEE only, type lspci in terminal
[08:24] <neozen> PeterR: got it?
[08:24] <PeterR> Ok I think I know where you are now, thanks a lot ;-)
[08:25] <neozen> cntrl-alt-esc
[08:25] <mbdl> sacater: what if i want to edit it b/c i have 1 cd and 2 floppy drives that dont exist
[08:25] <foutrelis> I don't wanna do that :'(
[08:25] <neozen> mouse will turn to skull and crossbones
[08:25] <panfist> could anyone help me configure rtorrent? the default startup script doesnt work and i've tried my best to debug it
[08:26] <motivator> no its cntrl alt delete
[08:26] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I check what version of ubuntu a system is running?
[08:26] <neozen> motivator: no... its cntrl-alt-esc
[08:26] <neozen> motivator: you want xkil
[08:26] <neozen> l
[08:26] <motivator> no its always been delete
[08:26] <variant> Lunar_Lamp: lsb_release
[08:26] <variant> Lunar_Lamp: lsb-release
[08:26] <psusi> when starting emacs, I get this: Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
[08:26] <lordvaygor16> sacater:sorry im kind of....computer illiterate
[08:26] <neozen> motivator: this... is not windows
[08:26] <motivator> what type comp you got
[08:26] <psusi> and then all the text is fubar... what's that mean?
[08:26] <beoba> oh no wait there it is
[08:27] <motivator> o your right my bad
[08:27] <Lunar_Lamp> variant, thanks, I couldn't remember it.
[08:27] <mbdl> does anyone knoe a commend to i can get rid of my fake devices
[08:27] <Lunar_Lamp> variant, I get: "No lsb modules available"...
[08:27] <lordvaygor16> sacater:how do i go to boot/grub/menu.lst?
[08:27] <psusi> mbdl: "fake devices"?
[08:27] <foutrelis> not even xkill can kill it :(
[08:27] <neozen> mbdl: fake..... devices?
[08:27] <neozen> foutrelis: WOW
[08:27] <lordvaygor16> sacater:i guess im just thick really
[08:27] <neozen> foutrelis: its REALLY mad
[08:27] <mbdl> psusi: devices that rare there but arnt in my computer
[08:28] <foutrelis> :(
[08:28] <psusi> mbdl: such as?
[08:28] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: what are you going to do with menu.lst?
[08:28] <neozen> oh hell... he actually pushed it
[08:28] <neozen> byebye fout
[08:28] <lordvaygor16> sidny4:im not actually sure
[08:28] <mbdl> neozen: devices that are there but arnt in my computer... as in i have 2 floppy drives and 1 cd drive that are not in my computer
[08:28] <neozen> mbdl: lol.. nice
[08:28] <Th3Oz> Hi, I've updated ubuntu feisty kernel from 2.6.20-11 to 2.6.20-13 and if i'll try to boot it with root=/dev/hda2 it stops at the root filesystem's mount, i've to use root=UUID=4e1d1001-cd85-440b-9f2d-4e3ddea88a13 but now if i'll try to type "mount" root is on /dev/sda1 and not on hda1, someone know why?
[08:28] <Bawlsfuff> Neozone! I just wanted to let you know, thanks to your help, I've got internet up and running on Edgy!
[08:28] <mbdl> psusi: devices that are there but arnt in my computer... as in i have 2 floppy drives and 1 cd drive that are not in my computer
[08:28] <lordvaygor16> sidny4:i dont know the first thing about linux or codes and stuff
[08:29] <psusi> mbdl: not sure about the cd... but for the floppies you need to go into your bios and tell it you don't have any
[08:29] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: lol, then why do you want to go there, if you edit it improperly your computer might not boot the OS
[08:29] <neozen> Th3Oz: you want feisty support.... this is support for dapper and edgy
[08:29] <lordvaygor16> sidny4:im surprised i managed to get into this chat to be honest
[08:29] <mbdl> psusi: i have one floppy drive though and thats all thats selected
[08:29] <PeterR> I tried changing the BIOS settings but amn't sure I done it correctly, thus causing it to fail startup.
[08:29] <neozen> Th3Oz: /join #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <Th3Oz> neozen: ok, thanks
[08:29] <psusi> mbdl: then your bios probably has an option to fake the second floppy and really use the first
[08:29] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: well congrats, you've made it
[08:30] <foutrelis> Photoshop is dead. I win :)
[08:30] <lordvaygor16> is it in terminal i edit root/grub/menu.lst?
[08:30] <neozen> PeterR: whip out the camera phone .... and take a picture... let us know what's going on
[08:30] <lordvaygor16> or whatever its called?
[08:30] <neozen> PeterR: ::grin::
[08:30] <PeterR> lol ok, i'll try that
[08:30] <pluma> Erm. Anybody got an idea how to view the user list in Xchat?
[08:30] <W4nnabe> hi. can anybody help?  i'm trying to view my apache root directory from another box on my local network.  using ubuntu lamp server. i can, however, view apache output via localhost.
[08:30] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: yeah, you can edit in terminal using nano, vim, etc. or using gedit (kind of like notepad) what are you wanting to edit in it?
[08:31] <Bawlsfuff> neozen: where do i go from here?
[08:31] <Yeti_69> !fr
[08:31] <mbdl> psusi:nope all i know is in there i only get 1 opion for floppy and i have it set as 1,44 floppy.... and those are my settings when i turn my floppy off my working drive stops working and my other "fake" disks are still there
[08:31] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: what were you trying to do again
[08:31] <Bawlsfuff> neozen: Sorry about that, accidentally pressed Up a few too many times, and then enter
[08:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:31] <oscar> Hello. I need ask something.. I was working just witch 4 repositories. Now I install Automatix and I have another 4 repositories with Universe and Multiverse. And now appear in the screen a text "new updates" (something like that)... The question is.. Is a good idea install all that updates???
[08:31] <dogmeat> which package can i use to run windows apps in edgy?
[08:31] <Bawlsfuff> neozen: haha, I got it working
[08:31] <sacater> lordvaygor16: just go there with a file manager
[08:31] <sacater> running as root
[08:31] <neozen> neozen: lol
[08:32] <lordvaygor16> sidny4:i want to change the default os in the grub menu because i have to keep selecting the os i want at startup
[08:32] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: ::chuckle::
[08:32] <Bawlsfuff> neozen: Now I'm trying to install the driver software for my nvidia graphics card
[08:32] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: O.o ... that's much easier
[08:32] <lordvaygor16> sidny4: and im totally thick with computers which doesnt help
[08:32] <Next_Level> any americans here please?
[08:32] <foutrelis> Next_Level: Greek here :)
[08:33] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: lots of people in here can help you with that... but not me <<--- has an intel card
[08:33] <neozen> Next_Level: yeah... I'm american
[08:33] <Bawlsfuff> neozen: i see. I think I got it all taken care of. I just did some google searching
[08:33] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: that's the key
[08:33] <Arrick> whats the command to know your IP in 6.06.1?
[08:33] <panfist> ifconfig
[08:33] <Pici> Arrick: ifconfig
[08:33] <neozen> Bawlsfuff: most people don't bother... and just come here and ask questions
[08:33] <neozen> Arrick: ifconfig -a
[08:33] <oscar> Hello. I need ask something.. I was working just witch 4 repositories. Now I install Automatix and I have another 4 repositories with Universe and Multiverse. And now appear in the screen a text "new updates" (something like that)... The question is.. Is a good idea install all that updates???
[08:33] <Megaqwerty> My mounted partitions (mounted in /media) aren't showing up on my desktop, ideas?
[08:34] <Pici> !automatix | oscar
[08:34] <ubotu> oscar: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:34] <jimmy> what type of virtualization does the new ubuntu support? is it vmware server or xen?
[08:34] <jimmy> the site doesnt say much
[08:34] <neozen> Arrick: you're looking for one that isn't <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:34] <Arrick> I got it neozen but yeah
[08:34] <neozen> jimmy: out of the box.... none
[08:34] <Arrick> internal network IP
[08:34] <neozen> jimmy: but you can get vmware server up and running fairly easily
[08:34] <Next_Level> could an american accept my private query please?
[08:34] <lordvaygor16> please can someone tell me how to configure the default os on grub in lamens terms? (i.e. you click this, then this, then type "this" and press enter) im a bit thick
[08:34] <Bluedog> An american?
[08:35] <Next_Level> yes
[08:35] <Next_Level> i need to know a specific thing
[08:35] <neozen> Next_Level: what do you need to know?
[08:35] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: ok, in a terminal type in: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst, a few lines down (about 10) you will see default     0, change that 0 to what number down the list you want to boot by default
[08:35] <jimmy> neozen: which version would you recommend for running a vmware server? the new beta or 6.10?
[08:35] <Next_Level> a bit personal, would consider to do it in private
[08:35] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: 0 being the first, 1 the second, etc.
[08:35] <neozen> jimmy: either should work
[08:36] <neozen> jimmy: I personally run dapper
[08:36] <peaker> ifup is supposed to run /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools, right?
[08:36] <jimmy> dapper being 6.10 i assume
[08:36] <peaker> but wireless-tools assumes a bunch of ENV vars will be set
[08:36] <neozen> Next_Level: look at your irc client
[08:36] <peaker> and ifup does not seem to set those
[08:36] <jaco> join ischia
[08:36] <Agrajag> jimmy: dapper is 6.06
[08:36] <neozen> Next_Level: you should see a window with my username
[08:36] <peaker> so.. I think that's why wifi never works out of the box
[08:36] <neozen> Next_Level: go to that winow
[08:36] <neozen> *window
[08:36] <ENIGMA_> hello men
[08:36] <panfist> can anyone help me debug a simple startup script? or point me to some stuff I can look at?
[08:37] <dogmeat> which software allows me to run windows applications?
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> i love windows
[08:37] <neozen> ENIGMA_: woman I presume?
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> windows powa
[08:37] <Next_Level> neozen i keep talkingg
[08:37] <jimmy> neozen: is there any documentation available on setting up vmware server with ubuntu server ? i googled a bit and looking around
[08:37] <Next_Level> you say speak but i wrote 5 lines
[08:37] <Next_Level> should i register?
[08:37] <peerkoel> hello people, is there a irc client in the livecd part of the 6.06 install cd?
[08:37] <Bawlsfuff> Oh boy. I've got a problem. I installed the latest drivers for my nvidia 7600GS and when i restarted, it said "Failed to start the X server."
[08:37] <neozen> Next_Level: yes... you should register
[08:37] <Next_Level> ok, brb then
 can anyone help me debug a simple startup script? or point me to some stuff I can look at?
 which software allows me to run windows applications?
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> >ENIGMA_< i love windows
 ENIGMA_: woman I presume?
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> >ENIGMA_< windows powa
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> --> theacolyte (n=theacoly@unaffiliated/theacolyte) ha entrado en #ubuntu
 neozen i keep talkingg
[08:37] <foutrelis> !ops | I don't like ENIGMA_'s atitude
 neozen: is there any documentation available on setting up vmware server with ubuntu server ? i googled a bit and looking around
[08:37] <ubotu> I don't like ENIGMA_'s atitude: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[08:37] <theacolyte> stop
 you say speak but i wrote 5 lines
[08:37] <ENIGMA_> --> sc4ttrbrain<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
 should i register?
[08:37] <neozen> call for op
 hello people, is there a irc client in the livecd part of the 6.06 install cd?
[08:37] <lordvaygor16> sydny4:aah! thanks i see i cant remember which one it was ill be right back
 Oh boy. I've got a problem. I installed the latest drivers for my nvidia 7600GS and when i restarted, it said "Failed to start the X server."
[08:38] <ENIGMA_> stop
[08:38] <peaker> Bawlsfuff: did you try to install it via running the nvidia driver install script with the --x-prefix=/usr/lib/xorg?
[08:38] <oscar> uboto: What can I do? Becasue I install somethings from automatix.. All is OK right now. I install for example some codecs. But now always appear that message telling me "new updates" What can I d' delette the automatix repositories? If I do that maybe the codecs dissapear too... If I continue with automatix. How can I do when I need upgrade some package?
[08:38] <jimmy> i only found docs for dapper not 6.10
[08:38] <neozen> dankee op
[08:38] <neozen> good bot
[08:38] <neozen> lol
[08:38] <dogmeat> i meant i thought wine allowed me to run windows under ubuntu, but it's not in the edgy server package system.
[08:38] <theacolyte> dogmeat: wine does not run windows, it runs windows applications
[08:38] <dogmeat> was looking for a package i could install that would allow me to run Microsoft Windows apps in ubuntu. any suggestions?
[08:39] <Bawlsfuff> peaker: I don't think so....I just got the file from this computer, it was a .deb extension, but it on the Linux computer, and double clicked, and it did the rest itself....
[08:39] <sidny4> dogmeat: wine only allows you to run some, not all, windows applications
[08:39] <dogmeat> 'k
[08:39] <poningru> dogmeat: emulation
[08:39] <peaker> dogmeat: wine implements the windows application interface -- which is what windows applications use to talk to windows. That way they think they talk to windows but they run on linux instead
[08:39] <Pici> dogmeat: And not windows itself.
[08:39] <poningru> dogmeat: what kinda processor do you have?
[08:39] <Pici> poningru: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:39] <poningru> how old is it?
[08:39] <dogmeat> that's fine, it's a laptop with p4
[08:39] <foutrelis> !botsnack
[08:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:39] <hoarycripple> how do I force a reinstall with apt-get?
[08:39] <psusi> wine is a liar ;)
[08:39] <Arrick> hey neozen you care to pm for a bit?
[08:39] <poningru> Pici: your point meing?
[08:39] <poningru> being*
[08:39] <Pici> poningru: Just pointing that out.
[08:40] <psusi> hoarycripple, apt-get install --reinstall foobar
[08:40] <neozen> Arrick: I usually don't but... ok
[08:40] <poningru> Pici: 0.0 o...k
[08:40] <dogmeat> i don't see it in my package list ... do i need another server for wine in my /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:40] <psusi> iirc
[08:40] <hoarycripple> psusi, thank you
[08:40] <glatzor> Pici: you should not always trust what names suggest :)
[08:40] <neozen> Arrick: abuse it... and I'll shut off pm support
[08:40] <poningru> !wine | dogmeat
[08:40] <ubotu> dogmeat: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:40] <nox-Hand> Oops, installing this OS \o/
[08:41] <Arrick> I need to change permissions so I can upload website stuff to my server now that I have it setup
[08:41] <foutrelis> Arrick: You are going to upload to /var/www right?
[08:41] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:41] <jg> are others having as much trouble as I am with evolution since the last set of patches came through on edgy?
[08:41] <W4nnabe> can anybody explain why i can see my apache server's index page through <IP_ADDRESS>, but not through the local network? I'm running dapper lamp server
[08:41] <RoundyT1> how secure is ubuntu v.s. debian???
[08:42] <PeterR> Ok then - got that video, now need to get transfer cables :D
[08:42] <Arrick> yes foutrelis
[08:42] <foutrelis> Arrick: Just use the www-data account :)
[08:42] <jeeves_Moss> does anyone know of a good WiFi connection manager?  I've tried WiFi radar, and it sucks
[08:42] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: network-manager-gnome
[08:42] <foutrelis> Arrick: And with proftpd you can use www-data to upload directly to /var/www with FTP :)
[08:42] <CheshireViking> jg, what problems are you having? my evolution is working fine since i downloaded the updates a hour ago
[08:43] <RoundyT1> how secure is ubuntu v.s. debian???
[08:43] <ed1t> which language is good for linux programming? python?
[08:43] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  I've tried that, and it's even worse.  it dosn't show the WiFi networks in range, and it sucks for connecting.
[08:43] <jg> CheshireViking: god forbid you have a message that is a message digest with, say > 100 messages in it....
[08:43] <Arrick> yeah, I had forgotten about proftpd there foutrelis
[08:43] <oscar> uboto: Sorry internet restart
[08:43] <jg> evolution goes compute bound for minutes at a time.
[08:44] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, ubuntu is based on debian... we sync every 6 months... basically the same.
[08:44] <RoundyT1> how secure is ubuntu v.s. debian???  --someone? anyone? --
[08:44] <RoundyT1> hmm
[08:44] <RoundyT1> but the repositories are different.
[08:44] <CheshireViking> jg, nothing like that with mine
[08:44] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: I've had that problem before, to fix it I edited /etc/network/interfaces and commented out everything except the lo interface. then restarted the computer and it seemed to work then
[08:44] <ed1t> whats a good programming language to learn for linux programming?
[08:44] <rickyfingers_> ed1t: C
[08:44] <choderboy> what kind of linux programming?
[08:44] <lordvaygor16> sydny4: if youre still there there is a total of 7 things in the list on GRUB and one of them is a divider ("other operating systems:")
[08:44] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, but the repositories include "unsafe" programs.
[08:45] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  well, now, I can't even get my internal WiFi card to work.  it won't connect to ANYTHING!!!!  I've got to run on a 802.11B card and it's slow as hell
[08:45] <jg> CheshireViking: I don't often get message digests that long; but I never had this problem in the past.
[08:45] <mweichert> does anyone know of an alternate install cd that has the restricted modules built in?
[08:45] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, example? Do you know what sense it is unsfe?
[08:45] <lordvaygor16> sydny4:so would i type 7 for the bottom one or does the divider not count and i only type 6?
[08:45] <CheshireViking> jg, i've never had a problem myself, but i only get a couple of emails a day - i don't run a server or anything - just personal emails
[08:45] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: ok, and do you want it to boot one of the other operating systems?
[08:45] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, lol not really some guy told me that, so now im scared to get ubuntu
[08:45] <rickyfingers_> ed1t: if you want to go the really academic route, check out http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
[08:46] <lordvaygor16> sydny4:yes
[08:46] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: ok, what number is it in the list?
[08:46] <ferronica> which player do i use to play VCD
[08:46] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, Don't be :) I'm guessing he's seen something and been confused... and then tells you this trying to sound knowledgable.
[08:46] <rickyfingers_> ed1t: that's the beginning programming text from MIT - but it's really a lot of theory, and it uses scheme, which is not that big in the industry, from what I know.
[08:46] <lordvaygor16> sydny4: its 7th in the list but the 6th thing is the divider
[08:46] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: hmm, what kind of wireless card is it?
[08:47] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, lol ya. true. He's been running debian forever...and just said "ubuntu is unsafe compared to debian"
[08:47] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: ok, count the divider as well and put that number as default
[08:47] <ferronica> which player do i use to play VCD
[08:47] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, there's a rivalry between debianers and ubuntueros. :)
[08:47] <Suurorca> SICP is a great book :)
[08:47] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, just like I don't like windows xp :)
[08:47] <lordvaygor16> sydny4: ok how would i get to that screen in  terminal again?
[08:47] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  it's an Athoes card.  It worked before, but the system will lock up occasionaly, then for the next few reboots, it won't work.
[08:48] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, he was more talking about the server side, he said it's easier with ubuntu to be "hacked"
[08:48] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: make sure restrited modules is installed for your kernel
[08:48] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[08:48] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:48] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  in the reposeritys?
[08:48] <mweichert> is anyone familiar here with ubuntu reconstructor?
[08:49] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, ubuntu ships with no ports open by default... that means nothing should be able to connect to you. We also implement no root account by default and implement sudo. For these and various other reasons we're pretty secure :)
[08:49] <RoundyT1> lol
[08:49] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, I don't know why debian would be more secure
[08:49] <bigjohnto> so anyone here ever used clamav?
[08:49] <peaker> can anyone here who has edgy/dapper working with wifi explain what he had to do to get his wifi working?
[08:49] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, hey yes
[08:49] <peaker> I am trying to figure out ubuntu's wifi configuration system
[08:49] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, makes sense to me...probably he's biased against ubuntu
[08:49] <PeterR> ubuntu what now?
[08:49] <dogmeat> is there an eMule fileshare util for ubuntu?
[08:49] <PriceChild> peaker, depends on your card
[08:49] <peaker> because I think it has a grave bug that makes it fail out of the box
[08:49] <lordvaygor16> sydny4: ok ive typed in 7 can i just close the window or do i have to type something specific to exit?
[08:49] <bigjohnto> i get the following error using clamav "make[2] : *** [libclamav.la]  Error 1
[08:50] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: yup, in synaptic search for restricted modules and make sure that you have the one for your kernel installed, that *should* take care of it, if not I'm not quite sure than
[08:50] <RoundyT1> is there an exact Fiesty release date?
[08:50] <peaker> PriceChild: assume that the hardware driver is auto-loaded successfully (which it is, here), it still does not work
[08:50] <panfist> can anyone help me get a startup script working? or point me to some resources that can help?
[08:50] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, probably :) Both distros have their benefits. Try them out and see which works better for you
[08:50] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[08:50] <peaker> PriceChild: assume even, that /etc/network/interfaces is configured properly with the ess-id and all that in there
[08:50] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  ok, I'll have a quick look
[08:50] <PriceChild> peaker, what card?
[08:50] <peaker> PriceChild: zd1211
[08:50] <peaker> PriceChild: usb dongle
[08:50] <rickyfingers> peaker: are you sure it's not a problem with wep/wpa key?
[08:51] <ferronica> what player should i use????????
[08:51] <PriceChild> peaker, do you know the chipset?
[08:51] <peaker> PriceChild: It seems that ifup, which is supposed to pass the interfaces' directives to wireless-tools to set up the card before running dhcp -- is not putting the options in the env vars that wireless-tools expects to find them in
[08:51] <bigjohnto> so if anyone has an answer about the clamav error please pm me so i don't have to follow this quick chat room
[08:51] <peaker> PriceChild: Its not a chipset problem
[08:51] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[08:51] <RoundyT1> is there an exact Fiesty release date?
[08:51] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: how's it the menu editing coming? I believe it should be default     6
[08:51] <PriceChild> peaker, I'm sorry Its probably over my head :)
[08:51] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  it looks like they're installed
[08:51] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, april 29th if all goes well
[08:51] <peaker> rickyfingers: Its a problem with the wireless essid/enc/key options not being passed to iwconfig by the ifup/wireless-tools script
[08:51] <peaker> rickyfingers: If I pass them manually it works
[08:52] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: does the computer recognize your wireless card?
[08:52] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  yes it does.  I can see it in iwconfig
[08:52] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, why are you compiling it/
[08:53] <danny> Where can I find the windows media codec  files
[08:53] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, and that's a generic error, the lines above it are more important.
[08:53] <rickyfingers> peaker: then why not just go the route of writing  your own script to do it? Google would probably even find you something pretty close to the mark.
[08:53] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: but it won't show any wireless networks available?
[08:53] <PriceChild> !mp3 > danny (see the pm from ubotu)
[08:53] <sdac221x_> can someone tell me how on earth to change the kdewallet password for the prompt i get when i start xubuntu to connect to my wireless network at home ?
[08:53] <bigjohnto> PriceChild: no errors above it
[08:53] <danny> ta
[08:53] <jshriver> greetings
[08:53] <sdac221x_> there doesnt seem to be a program called "kdewallet" on my machine even
[08:53] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, you're compiling it yourself?
[08:53] <Hyper-cool> i'm having trouble finding "ALSA-LIBS" and "ALSA-CFLAGS" is anyone familiar?
[08:53] <jshriver> anyone know how I can query a webserver to get some stats like server type etc? basicall I want to do in code what ab does
[08:53] <bigjohnto> PriceChild: yes,
[08:53] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  well, if I type in the knowen network SSID, it won't connect to it.
[08:53] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, why?
[08:53] <peaker> rickyfingers: Because I would like to see/help it be fixed in ubuntu: I think its not reasonable that wifi will fail in all ubuntu installations because of a silly bug in the ifup script
[08:54] <mweichert> is there a command-line tool to configure a wireless card?
[08:54] <peaker> rickyfingers: I have a solution for myself - I want to contribute a proper solution to ubuntu
[08:54] <bigjohnto> PriceChild: I am not using ubuntu i am using solaris
[08:54] <peaker> mweichert: Yeah, iwconfig
[08:54] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, I'm sorry I can't help you then :)
[08:54] <rickyfingers> peaker: then this is your chance for the big leagues.  Download the source code and run it in a debugger.
[08:54] <renz_> i have installed java 1.5 on my ubuntu server. how can i get the system to recognize the new version. it stll sees the previous (1.4) version?
[08:54] <peaker> I guess the right way is to try the ubuntu mailing list/newsgroups
[08:54] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, best you go find a solaris channel
[08:54] <sdac221x_> im pretty new to linux so sorry if my question was "too basic"
[08:54] <peaker> rickyfingers: Heh, "big leagues".  I did download the source code. But I still dont have a proper devel env. here. Its a new computer. I want a newsgroup reader first, too
[08:55] <dyrne> renz_: you can redo the symlinks but there is an update or something executable to run to do it
[08:55] <lordvaygor16> sydny4: i know this sounds a bit dumb and i can see all the options along the bottom but how do i actually exit the configuration now? (it says "^X Exit" and ^X is highlighted balck)
[08:55] <mweichert> peaker: cool, do you know if I can configure multiple profiles (networks)?
[08:55] <peaker> rickyfingers: Its just that my conclusion - that wifi fails for ALL ubuntu users (out of the box, at least) seemed a little far fetched, and I wanted to see if its wrong
[08:55] <bigjohnto> pricechild: i understand this is not solaris support but i was just seeing if that generic error had some specific reason but i guess not
[08:55] <peaker> mweichert: I am not sure wireless cards support connecting to multiple access points at the same time
[08:55] <PeterR> hehe
[08:55] <bigjohnto> PriceChild: I will PM the entire thing let me know what you see ok
[08:55] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  any other ideas?
[08:55] <neozen> peaker: they don't
[08:55] <peaker> mweichert: you can try aliasing on the interface (via the eth0:X notation in ifconfig/iwconfig)
[08:56] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: have you tried iwlist?
[08:56] <renz_> dyrne: that would be great if someone could point me in the right direction to find it
[08:56] <PriceChild> bigjohnto, there should be previous errors, Most probably you haven't got the tools, or haven't satisfied dependencies
[08:56] <mweichert> peaker: I don't want them connected at the same time, I just want them configured - and ideally to automatically connect to the wireless network it finds
[08:56] <neozen> peaker: that won't work
[08:56] <PriceChild> !paste > bigjohnto
[08:56] <neozen> mweichert: AHH
[08:56] <dyrne> renz_: update-alternatives --config java i think
[08:56] <peaker> neozen: Wireless works for some users? my conclusion is that its only supposed to work if the default wep-less access point is directly accessible or found by accident
[08:56] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  yes
[08:56] <neozen> mweichert: yeah... you can get that kind of behavior
[08:56] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: did that show anything?
[08:56] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[08:56] <neozen> mweichert: use network manager to connect
[08:56] <renz_> dyrne: thanks, i'll try it
[08:56] <ferronica> help!
[08:56] <mweichert> noezen: do you know how to go about it?
[08:57] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  yes, it shows the list of SSIDs.
[08:57] <neozen> mweichert: well... you are running gnome right?
[08:57] <mweichert> neozen: can I configure network manager from the command line?
[08:57] <lordvaygor16> sidny4: how do i exit the configuration for grub? im worried that just clicking close in the top corner wont save my changes
[08:57] <kane77> !feisty
[08:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:57] <sidny4> ok, does the network you are trying to connect to have WPA security?
[08:57] <peaker> mweichert: you could use a GUI front end (wlassistant) or do you want it automated?  you can select a network via: iwconfig NAME-OF-INTERFACE essid "who-to-connect-to" and more options if you need encryption
[08:57] <neozen> mweichert: yes... though i don't know how
[08:57] <rickyfingers> I wonder if anyone else has this problem 64 bit kernel, on board nvidia mcp51 sound card, when I adjust the gnome master volume control all sound shuts off /etc/init.d/alsa stop/start doesn't do any good.  Any ideas?
[08:57] <joephantom> hi, does anybody know if it's possible to use desktop effects on a virtual machine like vmware?
[08:57] <neozen> mweichert: its easiest to do through gui
[08:57] <PriceChild> joephantom, sorry
[08:57] <peaker> neozen: what wireless configurations are supposed to work out of the box with ubuntu?
[08:57] <Hyper-cool> i'm having trouble finding "ALSA-LIBS" and "ALSA-CFLAGS" is anyone familiar?
[08:57] <RoundyT1> wait ----- the 29th or the 19th??
[08:57] <sidny4> lordvaygor16: hit ctrl-x and save it
[08:57] <neozen> joephantom: go to #ubuntu-effects
[08:57] <PriceChild> joephantom, the VM has no access to the hardware so  no
[08:57] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, 29th afaik
[08:58] <neozen> joephantom: might find your answer there
[08:58] <erpo> When I choose the System->Quit menu option, I am not given a choice to suspend (called standby in Windows). Is this normal?
[08:58] <joephantom> ah ok i will install it in a pc then
[08:58] <lordvaygor16> sidny4: ok thanks for your help!
[08:58] <joephantom> sorry, thanks PriceChild and neozen
[08:58] <neozen> joephantom: doubt it though
[08:58] <renz_> dyrne: thanks! that worked. outstanding.
[08:58] <mweichert> neozen: here's my problem. I'm preseeding the alternate cd install, and the only network connection these cards have is wifi.... but the alternate cd doesn't come with the restricted modules. So, in the preseed-after command I'm installing the restricted modules and I want to to configure the wireless networks
[08:58] <erpo> I am using Edgy 6.10.
[08:58] <sacater> please help someone, im having bluetooth trouble, i want to connect my PDA to the web using bluetooth, whats the best way to do this using linux
[08:58] <peaker> neozen: Can I privmsg you?
[08:58] <mikebeecham> Hi there....does anyone know if there's a channel regarding Beryl?  I want to isnatll it, but would not have a clue where to start!
[08:59] <neozen> peaker: sure
[08:59] <theacolyte> mikebeecham: #beryl
[08:59] <erUSUL> !beryl > mikebeecham
[08:59] <mweichert> mikebeecham: beryl's site has all the info you'd need
[08:59] <PriceChild> mikebeecham, #ubuntu-effects
[08:59] <mweichert> mikebeecham: the instructions are fairly straight forword
[09:00] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: does the wireless network you are trying to connect to have WPA security on it?
[09:00] <mikebeecham> Thank you all....I'm reading lots of write ups of it, but loads of people are having problems with the install...I've been using linux a week, so I'm kind of scared and need hand-holding
[09:00] <RoundyT1> PriceChild,  sites says  April 19th
[09:00] <RoundyT1>
[09:00] <RoundyT1>
[09:00] <RoundyT1> SORRY!
[09:00] <jeeves_Moss> sidny4:  nope, totaly open network.  I tried it first with encryption, then I rolled it back to test it.
[09:00] <PeterR> holy jesus, my download speed is 2kB per second.
[09:01] <PeterR> 0.9 now :0
[09:01] <bubbles> :O
[09:01] <ferronica> help!
[09:01] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[09:01] <sidny4> jeeves_Moss: have you tried configuring it in network-admin?
[09:01] <Arrick> is there still a proftpd package for 6.06.1?
[09:01] <ferronica> any one help me out????
[09:01] <RoundyT1> PriceChild, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule    ---? :-D
[09:01] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, ah you're correct :)
[09:01] <ferronica> Pricechild: i need help
[09:01] <PriceChild> RoundyT1, sorry :)
[09:01] <RoundyT1> lol
[09:01] <dyrne> jeeves_Moss: so 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid whatevername; sudo dhclient eth1' doesnt work? where eth1 is whatever network device
[09:02] <ferronica> PriceChild: Help!
[09:02] <ferronica> PriceChild: Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[09:02] <Arrick> !proftpd
[09:02] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[09:02] <jeeves_Moss> dyrne:  I tried that, no luck.  It STILL won't connect.  it's like the card ignores EVERYTHING I tell it.
[09:03] <Bawlsfuff> What do I do when I get a "Permission denied" error when trying to blacklist a module?
[09:04] <PriceChild> ferronica, vcd? as in video cd?
[09:04] <ferronica> PriceChild: yes
[09:04] <PriceChild> ferronica, try vlc player
[09:04] <ferronica> PriceChild: when i play in vlc cracking sound
[09:05] <ferronica> PriceChild: it look like codec conflicting
[09:05] <PriceChild> ferronica, I'm no expert sorry
[09:05] <ferronica> PriceChild: so why totem not play
[09:05] <ferronica> PriceChild: its a simple VCD
[09:05] <mon^rch> while logging on I get the message that my $home.dmrc is being ignored and something about my homw dir being owned by me and not being writable by others... I am thinking that I should be concerned
[09:06] <PriceChild> ferronica, because it doesn't know how to open the file
[09:07] <ferronica> no one here expert
[09:07] <ferronica> :(
[09:08] <mon^rch> while logging on I get the message that my $home.dmrc is being ignored and something about my homw dir being owned by me and not being writable by others... I am thinking that I should be concerned. should i?
[09:08] <kunz> hello, what can i do if juk will not play files?
[09:08] <kunz> and we need a graphical file manager for accessing windows and samba shares, any ideas?
[09:08] <sacater> please help someone, im having bluetooth trouble, i want to connect my PDA to the web using bluetooth, whats the best way to do this using linux
[09:08] <imperator_> hey
[09:09] <mon^rch> Kunz: do you have all the right codecs installed?
[09:09] <Bawlsfuff> What do I do when I get a "Permission denied" error when trying to blacklist a module?
[09:09] <kunz> mon^rch, no idea, it used to work fine under knoppix, now with xubuntu it won't play anything, where can i get codecs, ps, i use apt-get install
[09:10] <LinuxProbie> G'morning people
[09:10] <Bawlsfuff> Anyone know why I would get that error?
[09:10] <bdheeman> hi, friends!
[09:11] <Arrick> refresh my memory please, where is sources.list located?
[09:11] <bdheeman> Bawlsfuff: try sudo <command>
[09:11] <predaeus> Arrick, /etc/apt/ I think
[09:11] <v_>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:11] <LinuxProbie> so I can't seem to get my wireless card working, could someone perhaps walk me through the pross if not remote into my ubuntu and show me the way
[09:11] <milaks> Hi. When I first installed Ubuntu /root was on partition /dev/hda10. After awhile I've reorganized my disk partitions so then /root is on /dev/hda6. I'va updated all necessary files (/boot/grub/menu.lst, /etc/fstab...) and that's OK. But whenever I update to now version of linux kernel Ubuntu updates /boot/grub/menu.lst with old value that is /dev/hda10. Where can I change this default value?
[09:11] <Arrick> thanks
[09:11] <sacater> is anyone else here using a PDA with linux via bluetooth
[09:11] <mon^rch> kunz: look at the ubuntuguide... it will explain how to do that http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:11] <predaeus> Bawlsfuff, where do you get that error?
[09:12] <Bawlsfuff> LinuxProbie: what kind of wireless card is it?
[09:12] <kunz> mon^rch, thx
[09:12] <dimas__> i am trying to start my webcam and i get an error message: An error ocurred at "ioctl VIDIOCSPICT" could not set camera properties
[09:12] <LinuxProbie> Some broadcom thing. the mini card that comes in an inspiron 6400
[09:12] <mon^rch> Kunz: no worries... I like my media too ;-)
[09:12] <Bawlsfuff> predaeus: When I type the command "echo 'blacklist rt61pci' >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[09:12] <dimas__> thats when i use GYachE
[09:12] <laley> send me a link of ubuntu spanish
[09:12] <pyrols> hello, why doesnt gcc fail to find stdio.h , i installed gcc4.1 and 4.1-source
[09:12] <ferronica> PriceChild: Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[09:13] <theacolyte> !es | laley
[09:13] <ferronica> Totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrecorder'. No URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[09:13] <ubotu> laley: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:13] <laley> ok
[09:13] <Bawlsfuff> LinuxProbie: Sorry, I don't really know much about that, but there's plenty of information if you just search google or help.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <laley> gracias
[09:13] <theacolyte> de nada
[09:13] <preaction> ferronica: File > Open DVD (or something like that)
[09:13] <mon^rch> kunz: might I also suggest amaroK for audio, and vlc for video (great for audio too)
[09:14] <LinuxProbie> Yah, I did the walkthrough on the wiki and it only broke it worse
[09:14] <predaeus> Bawlsfuff, does > alone also not work? If so you probably have to enable the root account. Had to do that for some kernel flags.
[09:14] <kunz> mon^rch, highlight and middle mouse button in terminal
[09:14] <ferronica> preaction: i trying to play VCD
[09:14] <kunz> gotta love it!
[09:14] <Bawlsfuff> predaeus: What exactly does that mean? I'm a noob
[09:14] <preaction> ferronica: try it anyway?
[09:14] <pyrols> hello, why doesnt gcc fail to find stdio.h , i installed gcc4.1 and 4.1-source anyone faced this problem before ?
[09:14] <preaction> ferronica: otherwise you might need to install VLC instead
[09:14] <ferronica> preaction: in totem
[09:15] <mon^rch> kunz: hunh?
[09:15] <octoberdan> Anyone here know how to get Wubi to install Edgy instead of Feisty?
[09:15] <Flannel> pyrols: install 'build-essential'
[09:15] <Arrick> who here is familiar with jailing users in proftpd?
[09:15] <LinuxProbie> I could also use some advice on getting my dell wireless 350 bluetooth module istalled and working