[00:00] <smjms> [snake]: http://wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos(3)
[00:00] <Harris> Darael, harris@harris-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA:~$ ln -s file:///home/harris/Desktop/School file:///home/harris/Desktop/Pictures file:///home/harris/Desktop/What%20Have%20you%20Learned%20About%20Ubuntu /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox/
[00:01] <Harris> oops floodbot its time to mute me
[00:01] <Harris> !floodbot
[00:01] <Harris> !ubottu
[00:01] <Darael> Harris: If you used mine from before, you created the wrong link to sync multiple folders.  Issue "rm ~harris/Desktop/Dropbox", followed by "mkdir ~harris/Desktop/Dropbox" and then "ln -s ~harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,School,Pictures,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox/}"
[00:01] <[snake]> smjms, Thanks!!
[00:03] <Harris> Darael, what do i paste in
[00:03] <Darael> Harris: In turn, each of the things I gave in quotes, sans the quotes, hitting enter each time.  You could insert && in between instead of pressing enter if you like.
[00:04] <Harris> if i give you the locations can you make the code like for the first one
[00:04] <jonf> hi, can anyone tell me how to do a do-release-upgrade to 11.10 on a server? I don't want to go to 12.04LTS at this point.
[00:05] <KRomo> i just got this error: colord crashed with sigabrt in raise  any idea why?
[00:05] <Darael> jonf: Which release are you on at the moment?
[00:05] <jonf> 11.04 at this point
[00:05] <Harris> Darael,  is that a yes
[00:06] <Darael> Harris: Why did you try to link with file:// locations?  You clearly know that's not what the shell expects, since you told us about /home/harris/Desktop/All\ Music, yet you tried to link the others with Nautilus URIs... why?
[00:06] <arooni-mobile> compiz just crashed on ubuntu 12.04 lts... how can i get my window bars back without restarting lightdm?
[00:06] <harushimo> what is a good light weight gui interface
[00:06] <harushimo> I was debating between openbox or fluxbox
[00:06] <Dacs> any help?
[00:06] <Pici> jonf: do-release-upgrade shouldn't move yout to 12.04 if you're only on 11.04 right now.
[00:07] <harushimo> which one is better
[00:07] <Darael> harushimo: I favour e: Enlightenment DR17, but there is no "best", of course.
[00:07] <Pici> !best | harushimo
[00:07] <Darael> !poll | harushimo
[00:07] <KRomo> i just got this error: colord crashed with sigabrt in raise  any idea why?
[00:07] <harushimo> I will choose it
[00:07] <harushimo> I just want a opinion
[00:07] <Harris> Darael, please help me do the codes one by one
[00:07] <Harris> there are only four
[00:08] <harushimo> I have a virtual machine for ubuntu server. I want a gui but a lightweight gui
[00:08] <jonf> pici: thanks!
[00:08] <harushimo> I still need access to the terminal too
[00:08] <Harris> please Darael
[00:09] <Darael> Harris: I am happy to /help/, but you are asking me to do everything for you.  Have you even tried to work out what was going on?
[00:09] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:10] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/School to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:10] <Darael> Harris: I'm sorry, sometimes I get impatient.  Please ignore that.  Please make sure /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox exists and is an empty folder.  Then provide the four paths to be synced, all on one line, and I will compose a command for you.  Don't flood the channel.
[00:10] <Harris> ok
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: fluxbox
[00:11] <Dacs> "W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch"
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017244/
[00:13] <arooni-mobile> compiz just crashed on ubuntu 12.04 lts... how can i get my window bars back without restarting lightdm?
[00:13] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/Pictures to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/School to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu
[00:13] <Harris> /home/harris/Desktop/What Have you Learned About Ubuntu to /home/harris/Desktop/Dropbox
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: press ALT+F2 and run:   compiz --replace
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <harushimo> ok
[00:13] <PringlesCan> Hello all, I was wondering if there's a preferred way to keep manually compiled software up to date?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Harris: you link them to things INSIDE the folder, not to the folder itself
[00:13] <Harris> sorry i tried to do one line
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Harris: think about it
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: "ln -s /home/harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,Pictures,School,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox}"
[00:14] <harushimo> you said to do a symbolic link ln  -s /usr/shared/applications/Virtual.desktop ~/Desktop/vbox.desktop?
[00:14] <harushimo> is that right
[00:14] <Harris> do i include the "
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: Nope.
[00:14] <Harris> so it is ln -s /home/harris/Desktop/{All\ Music,Pictures,School,What\ Have\ you\ Learned\ About\ Ubuntu,Dropbox}
[00:14] <Darael> Harris: Correct.
[00:14] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:14] <Harris> even the period
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> Harris: looking at the past commands, haven't you worked out the syntax of ln yet!!?
[00:15] <Darael> Harris: What period?  There are commas, but no full stops, in that command.
[00:15] <Harris> after dropbox
[00:15] <jamescarr> where is the picture 12.04 takes through your webcam kept at?
[00:15] <jamescarr> for your profile pic?
[00:15] <Darael> ActionParsnip: Some people refuse to do their own thinking.  The syntax has been explicitly provided at least three times, but Harris still wants the command provided.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Darael: shame
[00:16] <Darael> Harris: I don't see a full stop; I only see a closing curly bracket (}).  And yes, that's meant to be there.
[00:17] <Harris> ok thank you so much Darael  it worked
[00:17] <locoguano> Quick question.  When I open "Additional Drivers", four are listed. Three of them are "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernal module, and VDPAU library" and one is "nvidia_current_updates". Which one should I use?
[00:17] <Harris> and i do do my own work linux is confussing me
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Harris: thinnk about it...  ln -s /folder/to/be/linked /link/to/make
[00:18] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver"
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Harris: that's all it is
[00:18] <Romance> Hello, i am using ubuntu 11.04 , i accidentally deleted the default python version which is 2.7 , now i can't even go to the terminal or synaptic packet manager , terminal gone , and synaptic give error to load , how do i fix this
[00:18] <locoguano> Chuck.. ok.. but there are 3 of them. How do I know which to use?
[00:18] <jamescarr> when ubuntu takes a pic of you during setup, where the heck is it stored?!
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> jamescarr: probably in home some place
[00:19] <Darael> Romance: press ctl+alt+f1 to get a terminal, log in, type "sudo apt-get install python2.7", complete that, and press ctl+alt+f7 to get back to the GUI.
[00:19] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: take a screenshot
[00:19] <gnubie> jamescarr>  look in pictures/webcam
[00:20] <Darael> Romance: Alternatively, try ctl+alt+t to get a gnome-terminal.
[00:20] <locoguano> Just clicked to activate one and it says I have broken packages... (new to linux obviously)
[00:20] <toph> can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement "date %A%_B%_d%_Y %-r%_Z" I'm trying to get it to type out the date and time a specific way. :(
[00:20] <Harris> ok
[00:20] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: did i had a bad apt deamon or what? also if you don't mind i was talking to you last night and you advised that i use xubuntu , i did install it but it look like unity is still taking control please advise.
[00:21] <Darael> toph: You need a + before the %A.
[00:21] <Harris> what is a site that has answers to ubuntu questions that i have asked today for example how do you hide a folder
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> locoguano: open a terminal and copy & paste this command: sudo apt-get install -f
[00:21] <Darael> Harris: http://askubuntu.com
[00:21] <reisio> jamescarr: find ~/ -iname '*.jp*g'
[00:21] <Darael> Harris: Also, of course, the forums on http://ubuntuforums.org and the documentation at http://help.ubuntu.com
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: so when you log in to the Xubuntu session, it runs unity?
[00:22] <toph> Darael thank you :)
[00:22] <jeek> toph: date +"%A%_B%_d%_Y %-r%_Z"
[00:23] <KRomo> hey guys, i just ran sudo touch /forcefsck and rebooted. where do i see rthe log of fsck?
[00:23] <reisio> logs are usually in /var/log/
[00:23] <KRomo> i want to see if it found errors
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: less  /var/log/fsck
[00:24] <KRomo> it says nothing has been logged yet
[00:24] <Darael> KRomo: Try /var/log/boot.log perhaps?
[00:24] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: when i boot the laptop i can see xubuntu splash , but it boot into unity
[00:24] <KRomo> Darael,  yes there is a log
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: the boot splash is irrelevant, you are looging in to Unity session
[00:25] <Dacs> ActionParsnip: yes
[00:25] <Harris> i have searched all of the sites how do i hide a folder
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: log off, select Xubuntu session, then log in
[00:25] <KRomo> but how do i read this log?
[00:25] <KRomo> i dont see any errors in it
[00:25] <KRomo> i guess it had no errors :)
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Harris: Rename it so that it begins with a '.' .
[00:26] <Blackshirt> Harris, just prepend it with dot
[00:26] <txomon|home> how can I download mini isos from the archives?
[00:26] <txomon|home> with apt-get I mean
[00:26] <Darael> KRomo: Assuming you've got it up onscreen, and you see no errors, you can either assume there were none or pastebin it and check what the people in here think.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: the mini iso isn't downloaded with apt-get
[00:26] <KRomo> http://pastebin.com/mdiufhHy
[00:26] <txomon|home> ActionParsnip, but it is downloaded from mirrors
[00:26] <Blackshirt> Txmon: are you sure mini iso available on pool archives?
[00:26] <KRomo> how does that look?
[00:26] <Darael> txomon|home: The minimal CDs are not packages and cannot be downloaded with apt-get.  Use wget instead.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[00:27] <txomon|home> yes, but you can specify mirrors for apt, and use them to grab those mini isos
[00:27] <KRomo> is that the right log?
[00:27] <Harris> so .folder
[00:28] <Blackshirt> Harris, yes,,,
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> txomon|home: the ISO isn't downloaed with apt-get
[00:28] <KRomo> Darael, can you check out the pastebin?
[00:28] <Darael> Harris: You can also hide folders by adding their names (one to a line) to a plain-text line called .hidden in the same folder - this will hide them from the file manager but not the terminal.
[00:28] <Blackshirt> Txcomon, apt-get works with .deb file
[00:29] <txomon|home> Blackshirt, and with source packages
[00:29] <Harris> can you hide it from the desktop
[00:29] <Darael> KRomo: Sure, just a mo; working over SSH here, had to remember how to copy-paste in Screen.
[00:30] <Darael> Harris: The desktop is implemented by the file manager.  If the FM is set to show hidden files, files of the .filename form or those listed in ~/Desktop/.hidden will be shown on the desktop, otherwise they'll be hidden.
[00:30] <Darael> KRomo: It certainly looks fine to me.
[00:31] <KRomo> it is the right log?
[00:31] <KRomo> if there were errors it would be there?
[00:31] <Jonii> How to resize ubuntu partition?
[00:31] <BassoPT-MBAir> do you fancy a bum?
[00:31] <Jonii> I want to make it bigger
[00:31] <reisio> Jonii: with gparted from the install image
[00:31] <Darael> KRomo: That looks like a /var/log/boot.log to me, but I'm not sufficiently intimately familiar with that offhand.
[00:31] <locoguano> Chuck: Did "sudo apt-get install -f", still showing 3 drivers, still get "broken packages" when I try to activate one.
[00:31] <Harris> i put the dot and it isnt hidden
[00:32] <Jonii> reisio: you mean, boot from install media, and then use gparted there on my computer?
[00:32] <reisio> Harris: hidden from what?
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: right
[00:32] <Harris> the desktop
[00:32] <Jonii> It does not break my ubuntu?
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: it shouldn't, but resizing is not 100% safe
[00:32] <reisio> Jonii: you have a backup system for your personal data don't you? :)
[00:33] <Jonii> Oh well, new computer, fresh install, nothing of value here
[00:33] <reisio> :D
[00:33] <Jonii> No I don't have anything like that
[00:33] <reisio> Jonii: what're you taking space from?
[00:33] <Harris> Darael,  i want to hide the dropbox folder
[00:33] <Darael> Jonii: No more than the usual risk involved with messing with partitions, which is small but present.  Backups are important if there's any of your data on there... and I see reisio has already covered this.
[00:33] <Jonii> reisio: windows. I'm hesitant to remove it completely
[00:33] <reisio> well see that you acquire something like that once you have data:p
[00:33] <BassoPT-MBAir> fancy a bum?
[00:34] <Jonii> reisio: how to do something like that?
[00:34] <reisio> Jonii: it's a good idea to defrag Windows' file system before resizing them
[00:34] <szal> BassoPT-MBAir: pardon?
[00:34] <Jonii> reisio: true. I was thinking of doing that
[00:34] <Darael> Harris: OK, so you can't rename it because Dropbox won't recognise it, but you /can/ create a plain-text file called .hidden on your desktop and give it the content "Dropbox".  You can do that with the command "echo Dropbox > /home/harris/Desktop/.hidden" (no quotes).
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> you know a bum
[00:34] <reisio> Jonii: if you have two disks, there are a number of methods, otherwise you could use an online solutin, like Ubunutu1
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> man on man action!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> BassoPT-MBAir: please don't
[00:34] <Darael> szal: Don't feed the trolls, please.
[00:34] <szal> BassoPT-MBAir: no, and it's probably off-topic here
[00:34] <BassoPT-MBAir> lol
[00:35] <Harris> drop box is still there
[00:36] <Harris> should i post a screen shot
[00:36] <Darael> Harris: You may have to refresh the desktop.  Right-click it and select "refresh", or log out and in, or something, and see if that changes.  If that fails, try pressing ctl+h to toggle showing hidden files.
[00:38] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, it worked, xubuntu
[00:38] <r1pp3rj4ck> hey guys
[00:38] <convolution> hi all
[00:38] <r1pp3rj4ck> i use archlinux, but on the server we use ubuntu server
[00:38] <convolution> why "su" command in ubuntu doesn't work?
[00:39] <locoguano> Installing "Additional Drivers" for my Nvidia card. Three are listed under the name "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module, and VDPAU library". When I try to activate one it get "SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".  Any help would be appreciated.
[00:39] <szal> !su | convolution
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> convolution: the root account is disabled, instead use:    sudo -i
[00:39] <r1pp3rj4ck> i wrote a bash script which executes a program
[00:39] <r1pp3rj4ck> and i call it like 'script.sh > script.log &'
[00:39] <convolution> why is disabled?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> convolution: security as well as other things
[00:40] <r1pp3rj4ck> and it doesn't really work on ubuntu, but it works on archlinxu
[00:40] <Harris> Darael,  it is hidden how do i get it back if i need it
[00:40] <convolution> i have ubuntu with a root account disabled? how to reactivate it?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> convolution: its not supported here
[00:40] <r1pp3rj4ck> could you give me some link when i can read how it works on ubuntu server and how to solve it?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | convolution
[00:40] <reisio> heh
[00:40] <Darael> Harris: Just press ctl+h and it'll show up, or use the terminal (where it's not hidden).
[00:41] <Harris> how do you refresh the desktop
[00:41] <fish13> hi, i replaced a file that was very important by an older version. Is it possible to retrieve it?
[00:41] <reisio> fish13: replaced how?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> convolution: if you use:  sudo -i    you will be root as you require, no need to enable the account
[00:41] <convolution> wait
[00:41] <Harris> i did that Darael  it didnt work
[00:41] <Darael> Harris: I do not recall, and can't check right now since I'm on a server machine.
[00:42] <convolution> i have also debian, and over there i type "su root" and it works well
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> convolution: debian has the account enabled.....
[00:42] <fish13> i overwrited the directory
[00:42] <MCl0vin> now the 10000 $ question , how do i play wmv video files
[00:42] <Darael> Harris: Then Put the focus on the desktop, go to the menu: view->hidden.
[00:42] <Harris> i did
[00:42] <Harris> that didnt work
[00:42] <Darael> MCl0vin: Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package to get things like codecs, but if the file is DRMd you may have trouble.
[00:43] <fish13> hi, i replaced a file that was very important by an older version. Is it possible to retrieve it?
[00:43] <fish13> i overwrited the directory
[00:43] <locoguano> Installing "Additional Drivers" for my Nvidia card. Three are listed under the name "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module, and VDPAU library". When I try to activate one it get "SystemError: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".  Any help would be appreciated. (Ran "sudo apt-get install -f" as suggested earlier, but nothing changed.)
[00:44] <Darael> fish13: Unfortunately, it is unlikely to be possible to recover your file unless it's still open in something (in which case, save it, quick!).  It doesn't help you now, but this is what backups and/or version control are for.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: install ubuntu-restricted-extras gnome-mplayer vlc and w32codecs (from medibuntu repo)
[00:44] <L3top> locoguano: in terminal: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:44] <Harris> how do you refresh desktop
[00:45] <Darael> ActionParsnip: It's not necessary to install /all/ of those, now, is it?
[00:45] <Harris> unity
[00:45] <L3top> it is a strong mix Darael.
[00:45] <locoguano> L3top - Done. Same error.
[00:45] <MCl0vin> You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[00:46] <pengwu> hi all
[00:46] <L3top> locoguano: the error will be more verbose. Please pastebin
[00:46] <Harris> i hid a folder now when i click view hidden folders it doesnt show
[00:46] <pengwu> if i want to see a text file is UTF-8 or ASCII what should I do?
[00:46] <MCl0vin> Darael, how do i know if my files are DRMd?
[00:46] <pengwu> there are many files and I want to find all the ASCII files
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Darael: its what I install and I can view anything :)
[00:46] <Darael> L3top: True, but most people want to use /one/ player.  Personally, I just add medibuntu and install non-free-codecs (which depends on w(32|64)codecs and ubuntu-restricted-extras) and libdvdcss2 - I usually have VLC in place already.
[00:47] <Harris> .........
[00:47] <L3top> Darael: the only ones in "competition" are mplayer (which handles h264 better than vlc, as much as I love vlc) and vlc is a great swiss army knife
[00:47] <Harris> Darael,  when i click view i cant see
[00:47] <Harris> it
[00:47] <MCl0vin> !wmv
[00:47] <L3top> though she is gaining weight...
[00:47] <locoguano> Where do I find more info on that error?
[00:48] <Darael> L3top: VLC is indeed gaining weight, and I wasn't aware that mplayer handled h264 better.  Good to know.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> L3top: i'm not aware of much that vlc can do that mplayer can't do
[00:48] <Harris> Darael, please how do i get it i am worried that i lost my folder
[00:49] <Darael> Harris: It's not gone.  To prove it, issue a "ls Desktop/Dropbox" in a terminal and see that it's still there.
[00:49] <L3top> vlc is a strong swiss army knife... it handles dvd navigation, for instance, much better than vlc...
[00:49] <L3top> er mplayer
[00:49] <r1pp3rj4ck> nvm, solved it with nohup
[00:49] <locoguano> L3top: where do I get that error info?
[00:49] <Darael> Harris: Indeed, issue an "ls Desktop" in the terminal and if you used the entry-in-.hidden method (rather than the .filename method) it'll show up there, too.
[00:49] <MCl0vin> can someone please help me with this issue
[00:50] <Harris> Darael, why can i view it then when i click view hidden files and folders
[00:50] <L3top> please pastebin the output of dpkg --configure -a
[00:50] <L3top> locoguano: ^
[00:50] <Darael> Harris: I don't recall off the top of my head how to refresh the desktop,  I'm sorry.  I'm working on a server; checking will be tricky.  Perhaps someone else knows.
[00:50] <locoguano> There was no output. It just went to the next command line.
[00:52] <locoguano> L3top: There was no output. It just went to the next command line.
[00:52] <L3top> locoguano: I misunderstood your saying that the same error was produced, I assumed you meant from dpkg... which would have been more verbose. apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[00:52] <locoguano> ah
[00:52] <Harris> what does working on a server mean
[00:53] <locoguano> nvidia-current:
[00:53] <locoguano>   Installed: (none)
[00:53] <locoguano>   Candidate: 295.53-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1
[00:53] <locoguano>   Version table:
[00:53] <locoguano>      295.53-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1 0
[00:53] <FloodBot1> locoguano: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <locoguano>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[00:53] <Harris> Darael, what does on the server mean
[00:54] <L3top> sorry locoguano. I should have put a grep in there
[00:54] <Harris> anyone know how to refresh the unity desktop
[00:54] <locoguano> pretend you are talking to a 5 year old, because that is about where I am with Linux. :)
[00:55] <Harris> ActionParsnip, how do i refresh the unity desktop
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Harris: refresh in what way?
[00:55] <Blackshirt> Harris you don't need them
[00:55] <Harris> ask Darael
[00:55] <L3top> locoguano: It appears the canonical gurus have very cleverly replaced their nvidia version in the last week or so... please sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:56] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  ask Darael
[00:56] <Pici> ActionParsnip: they're looking for the unity --reset command iirc, or whatever its actually called.
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Pici: sounds like it, just checkin
[00:56] <i7c> how could unity need a reset. you can't conf it anyways :D
[00:57] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  i hid a folder and when i click view hidden folders it doesnt show
[00:57] <L3top> i7c: it uses compositing in 3d... you could have redraw problems conceivably
[00:57] <locoguano> L3top: thanks
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Harris: I see, why are you storing data on the desktop anyway?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Harris:  you can always browse to the folder in nautilus and access it there
[00:59] <tr3nton> doesn't f5 refresh?
[00:59] <Harris> i refreshed it and it still doesnt show
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Harris: use nautilus and access the desktop from your home folder
[01:00] <MCl0vin> can someone please help me with this issue i am having, i am trying to play wmv videos , but nothing that i do work, i have installed smplayer, vlc
[01:00] <locoguano> L3top: Do I need to do a reboot after that update?
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:01] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, it was already insatlled
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: did you try a different video output method in VLC? Do you get anything from playinig the video?
[01:02] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, voice only
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: set a different video output method
[01:02] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, no i didn't try different out
[01:03] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, checking it....
[01:03] <Harris> ok
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: so what did you try??
[01:04] <KRomo> what is the best mp3 player app on ubuntu?
[01:04] <KRomo> been liking clementine but itsa bit buggy
[01:04] <tr3nton> rhythmbox :D
[01:05] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, where can i change the method of how the video is out put
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: there is no single best
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: tools -> prefereces -> video
[01:05] <KRomo> installing Exaile now
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: what is the best MP3 player for any OS?
[01:05] <KRomo> looks very cleab
[01:06] <KRomo> foobar is best on windows :)
[01:06] <tr3nton> best is subjective
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: I prefer <insert name hare>
[01:06] <KRomo> well, better q, what do you guys use?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: its a nonesense question, all you will get is opinion
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: gnome-mplayer nuy mainly spotify :)
[01:07] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, "No suitable decoder module:
[01:07] <MCl0vin> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[01:08] <KRomo> is there a spotify app for ubuntu?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: sure, add the spotify ppa
[01:09] <tr3nton> http://www.spotify.com/au/download/previews/
[01:10] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, any other suggestions please
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/how-to-install-native-spotify-linux.html
[01:11] <Harris> Darael, i couldnt get it to show after refreshing with f5 but ActionParsnip  gave me the idea of using home folder which worked thank you for your help today
[01:12] <KRomo> oh wow
[01:12] <KRomo> nice
[01:12] <Harris> both of you should work for geek squad
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: all the guides I've seen state w32codecs (or w64 for 64bit OS)
[01:13] <Harris> gtg i proboly be nack tomarrow for more help can ni pm you though ActionParsnip  and Darael
[01:13] <MCl0vin> ActionParsnip, i didn't install w32codecs...link please
[01:14] <L3top> MCl0vin: MSS2 is an archaic WMV container. I don't think ANYTHING will play it, though it could be converted. That is like if I wrote my own language, in my own character set, and you asked me for a document reader that would let you read it in a language you know.
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> MCl0vin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:15] <MCl0vin> L3top, isn't that what google translate for :)
[01:15] <L3top> Not if I invent the language, in a character set my 4 year old scribbled
[01:16] <MCl0vin> L3top, hahahah
[01:18] <vn> hi, im trying to install ubuntu, but it doesn't list my devices/partitions, what can I do?  if I go to ctrl+alt+f1 and into cfdisk, I can manage them...
[01:18] <james-ubc> hey guys im having an isue with empanthy... it's not connecting to faceook
[01:18] <james-ubc> user/pw is right
[01:19] <james-ubc> it just  says no error specified
[01:19] <hamchi> syo
[01:19] <MCl0vin> vn, did you try df -k
[01:19] <hamchi> sup
[01:19] <L3top> MCl0vin: if you have multiple files in this format, I would google some sort of converter
[01:19] <hamchi> i just got xubuntu linux installed
[01:19] <xangua> james-ubc: user as in 'facebook username' ¿ tried to change your facebook account and, obviosly, change it back in empathy¿
[01:19] <hamchi> it fucking epic
[01:19] <hamchi> its fcking magical
[01:19] <FloodBot1> hamchi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <IdleOne> !language | hamchi
[01:19] <L3top> MCl0vin: I don't know of anything that will outright play it.
[01:19] <hamchi> its almost like a vagina.
[01:20] <MCl0vin> L3top, total of 31 files
[01:20] <toph> Is there any way to look up my zipcode from the terminal?
[01:20] <iamtheretoday> wow. speaking of vagina's
[01:20] <bazhang_> iamtheretoday, stop that
[01:20] <IdleOne> iamtheretoday: I won't just remove you. Please stop.
[01:20] <MCl0vin> conversion will take a while and i need to study my exam is on june 6th
[01:21] <MCl0vin> don't want to waste more time as it is already
[01:21] <L3top> MCl0vin: we all have priorities in life.
[01:21] <L3top> MCl0vin: the time wasted should be attributed to whomever chose that format
[01:21] <iamtheretoday> vn..  Did you try formatting with fat or nt ?
[01:22] <vn> MCl0vin: that command works
[01:22] <vn> iamtheretoday: it was ntfs'd before, but with cfdisk I just changed it to ext4 and swap
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> could convert the file
[01:24] <MCl0vin> am thinking to use wine
[01:24] <kara> How might one find drivers for an original macbook. Ubuntu isn't detecting any useful drivers for it.
[01:24] <vn> iamtheretoday: why that ntfs question?
[01:25] <iamtheretoday> And with the friendly ubuntu installer it doesn't see any hard drive devices?
[01:25] <xangua> !mac | kara already read this¿
[01:25] <vn> iamtheretoday: exact
[01:25] <james-ubc> xangua: huh?
[01:25] <L3top> MCl0vin: am I understanding you correctly... did some... terribly misguided professor give you these files in that format?
[01:25] <xangua> james-ubc: can you elaborate¿
[01:25] <vn> any way I can do a ncurses-based install of ubuntu desktop, like server versions?
[01:26] <bazhang> vn the alternate installer
[01:26] <MCl0vin> yes.
[01:26] <james-ubc> xangua: it just stoped working lastweek for whatever reason
[01:26] <bazhang> !alternate | vn
[01:26] <james-ubc> xangua: my username and pw changed but i've tried retyping it/making a new acc and loging in with a friend's account
[01:26] <xangua> james-ubc: tried to change your facebook password in the website¿ and change it in empahty too
[01:27] <vn> but is there a GUI with the alternate?  I need to manage my VBoxes thru X
[01:27] <xangua> james-ubc: does your friend has a 'facebook username'¿
[01:27] <ry773> #xbins
[01:27] <L3top> MCl0vin: Wow. That is a travesty. Yes sir... wine is your answer. What a shame... it should be brougt to their attention that this is a dead format, and for extra credit you will convert them for them.
[01:27] <MCl0vin> L3top, that is a deal i will have to work with him
[01:28] <iamtheretoday> vn.. Had the same problem once, went back and formatted the entire drive with ntfs , booted from a usb drive and loaded the ubuntu os with no problem..
[01:28] <MCl0vin> on a windows machine it works of internet explorer
[01:29] <MCl0vin> so i will try to install that
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> IE doesn't run in Ubuntu
[01:30] <james-ubc> xangua: yeah i tried the user/pass on the site itself and it accepted it but empathy refuses to connect for osme reason
[01:30] <L3top> Yes MCl0vin... I have RARELY run into this format, and it doesn't work on ANYTHING to my knowledge but wmp (or by proxy IE). Not mac, not linux, not plan9, not commodore... it is a proprietary container.
[01:31] <L3top> yeah... I said plan9... wanna fight about it?
[01:34] <toph> Is there any way to look up my zipcode from the terminal? I was thinking like looking up my ip address and finding it out from there. or maybe there is some location based thing I can install that can tell me when I connect to the internet?
[01:35] <Alvaro-iqQ> hello,,,,, antivirus para ubuntu server 10.04
[01:35] <Alvaro-iqQ> alguien que hable español
[01:35] <Darael> toph: Unless your device has a GPS built-in (rare) there is no reliable way to get your location other than asking the user... and ZIP codes don't even apply everywhere - what if you go abroad?
[01:35] <Darael> !es | Alvaro-iqQ
[01:36] <vn> iamtheretoday: ok will try thanks
[01:37] <Darael> toph: You could try using the SSIDs of wifi networks in the area to get a fix - this can be quite accurate, but you have to have access to someone that'll provide that.  I don't know how it's done, only that it can be.  Suggest searching for "wifi-based geolocation" or something.
[01:39] <toph> cool thanks
[01:41] <melodii> hi... people's faces in my flash videos have become blue, any idea?
[01:41] <bazhang> melodii, full screen flash, disable hardware acceleration
[01:42] <reisio> melodii: it's a flash/nvidia bug, what bazhang said is a good temporary fix
[01:42] <melodii> ouhhh.. like a magic
[01:43] <toph> what about location based adds
[01:43] <melodii> thanks so much guys
[01:43] <toph> they always seem to know what city or area I'm in. could that be polled to get my logaction?
[01:43] <nathaneltitane_> question: how can i track which program or process uses port 24800
[01:43] <L3top> You can script it toph
[01:44] <toph> I'm sorry I'm writing my first real bash script and my google fu and understanding of the man pages for things like grep suck lol
[01:44] <L3top> one moment
[01:44] <melodii> So, from now on i won't be getting any hardware acceleration from youtube videos any longer?
[01:44] <Darael> toph: They're unreliable, especially on dynamic IP addresses - they regularly get my location wrong - but yes, GeoIP is often workable depending how fine-grained you need your location data to be.
[01:45] <KRomo> i cant believe how much better music sounds on ubuntu
[01:45] <KRomo> call me crazy
[01:45] <Darael> KRomo: OK.  You're crazy.
[01:45] <KRomo> i guess it is driver
[01:45] <nathaneltitane_> KRomo.. depends on your hardware and driver
[01:45] <reisio> melodii: no, you'll just have to wait for I'm guessing Adobe to pull its head out of its $#$ again
[01:45] <KRomo> i have a pretty decent card...at least it was at the time
[01:46] <xangua> melodii: or you can use youtube's html5 player
[01:46] <reisio> melodii: with Flash it's always two steps forward one step back
[01:46] <KRomo> melodi c
[01:46] <KRomo> WHAT BROWSER ARE YOU USing?
[01:46] <Darael> reisio, melodii:  Didn't adobe decide they were only going to support Flash on Linux in the form of the Chrome plugin?
[01:46] <KRomo> -caps
[01:46] <reisio> Darael: dunno, got a link?
[01:47] <reisio> the chrome plugin takes the form of a netscape plugin AFAIK, though :p so it's probably a matter of semantics
[01:47] <KRomo> Chrome 22 comes with flash 11.3 which is very buggy
[01:47] <melodii> KRomo: i use firefox (primarily), chrome, and midori
[01:47] <KRomo> if you disable the internal pkugin
[01:47] <Darael> reisio: Not on hand; I'm working in an SSH session to a server from a TTY.
[01:47] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[01:47] <KRomo> the linux standard plugin 11.2 wqorks
[01:47] <reisio> Darael: 's'okay I Got it
[01:47] <reisio> Darael: this is a universal problem with nvidia anyways
[01:47] <mattwj2002> there is this linux program called obawix that isn't work
[01:48] <mattwj2002> the main website is offline www.okawix.com
[01:48] <mattwj2002> Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[01:48] <reisio> other drivers might not even have hardware accel, so it might not be a big deal comparatively
[01:48] <mattwj2002> anyone know if it is permanent or temporary?
[01:48] <reisio> Darael: "Linux users who want to view Flash content will soon have no choice but to do it through Google's Chrome browser." ha, well that will never happen
[01:48] <reisio> typical pcworld cluelessness
[01:48] <Darael> mattwj2002: A "temorarily unavailable" error is usually exactly what it says on the tin.
[01:48] <melodii> i hope flash goes extinct
[01:48] <reisio> in time
[01:48] <simplew> its possible to install ubuntu with BTRFS by default?
[01:49] <reisio> simplew: sure
[01:49] <reisio> simplew: not a particularly sane choice, though
[01:49] <simplew> reisio: encrypted with xts?
[01:49] <Darael> simplew: I've done it myself, but it's painful - fsync() on btrfs is very slow, and dpkg uses a /lot/ of fsync.
[01:49] <LordOfTime> if i found a bug in 12.04 grub bootloader, what package do i file it against?  or do i file upstream?
[01:50] <reisio> "Adobe will continue to provide security updates to the standalone Flash Player 11.2 on Linux for five years after its release, it said." so even less of an issue
[01:50] <cody_> hello
[01:50] <Darael> LordOfTime: Almost certainly grub-pc.
[01:50] <reisio> LordOfTime: the wranglers will know how to file it
[01:50] <reisio> simplew: hrmm?
[01:50] <LordOfTime> reisio:  i *am* one of those wranglers xD
[01:50]  * LordOfTime probably forgot to mention he's on bug squad
[01:51] <simplew> im using BTRFS in mageia and it has been fine
[01:51] <_jeremy_> dvtm
[01:51] <simplew> but i want to change to another distro
[01:51] <Darael> LordOfTime: I would file it against grub-pc (unless you're using, for example, grub-efi), or grub-common if it's a bug likely to be independent of which grub2 it is.
[01:52] <LordOfTime> Darael:  i'll file against what's installed, but meh
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> LordH3lment, what is the bug?
[01:52] <wife> i am everyone's husbands and wives
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, what is the bug?
[01:53] <Darael> simplew: Well, there should be no problem using btrfs for /home in Ubuntu, and using it for / is possible, but as I mentioned, likely to be very slow when doing package-management stuff.  If you can accept updates taking a *very* long time, go for it.
[01:53] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  double-detection of Win7 loader, one for the main partition, the other for the windows bootloader, both work, but it results in two entries (Win 7 64bit pro on the other OS - dualboot)
[01:54] <Darael> LordOfTime: Ah.  That's os-prober, then, IIRC.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, do you have recovery partition?
[01:55] <toph> I'm just trying to get local weather
[01:55] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  OEM drive, the "System Reserved" default partition that windows autoinstalls is also detected on the main partition (C:\)
[01:55] <LordOfTime> Darael:  could file against both... :P
[01:55] <LordOfTime> then it can be invalid'd against whichever one it isnt :P
[01:55] <simplew> Darael:i dont get how would it be painfull, im running btrfs but its a rpm basd distro, maybe thats why i didnt experienced any delays
[01:55] <johnnynobody> hmm, even though i setup my firewall to allow port 53 it still shows closed - the dns server is running - what could be causing this?
[01:55] <Darael> LordOfTime: You could.  It's OS-Prober that does the detection, though.  Update-grub calls it.
[01:55] <LordOfTime> Darael:  i'll file against that
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, the recovery and the main are commonly show, and some time boot either.
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> shown
[01:56] <toph> I found a script that can pull local weather by zip in a nice format but rather than hard code the zip I'd like to find a way to get it from my ip :)
[01:56] <FoolsRun> Hi, once upon a time I could use the standard fsck command to check an hfsplus volume as long as I installed the hfsutils or hfsprogs (not sure which). Now it seems I have to use fsck.hfsplus to check them, and the checking tool is different. Is it possible to get the old tool back which just used fsck?
[01:56] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  there is no recovery
[01:56] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  win7 autosets up two partitions: Win7 boot loader on one, C:\ on the other
[01:56] <LordOfTime> there is no recovery on OEM installs
[01:56] <LordOfTime> (and i mean OEM, installed it myself)
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, would you consider running the bootscript out of curiosity?
[01:57] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  can't purge it, it'll "Cannot find ntldr" on windows
[01:57] <Darael> simplew: dpkg, which is used in all the Debian-family distros, uses lots of fsync(), which is very slow on btrfs.  That's a btrfs bug, not a dpkg one, because it does it in order to be /safe/.
[01:57] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i'm a windows tech too, so i know not to purge those partitions :P
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, OEM's are also releases from manufacturers they have a recovery.
[01:57] <simplew> Darael: so in your prespective a rpm based distro would slow also?
[01:58] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  if and only if they install it
[01:58] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i buy bare OEM drives and OEM Windows to install :p
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> LordOfTime, I suspect it is a glitch in the setup not a grub bug but yah never know.
[01:58] <Darael> simplew: I wouldn't know; I'm not familiar with rpm's workings.  It may have an override to not use fsync when running on btrfs or something, which would trade out safety for acceptable speed.
[01:59] <LordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  possibly, but unlikely :P  its still a possible bug, so... *shurgs*
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | LordOfTime here is the script if you want to take a look
[01:59] <simplew> Darael: i dont think that would be the case, but i need to know better, anyway thanks
[02:00] <Darael> simplew: ...or it may be that rpm just doesn't fsync nearly as much as dpkg.  It's possible to make dpkg fast on btrfs, by installing eatmydata and using it (it essentially sets fsync to a no-op), but that trades out safety for speed.
[02:03] <bjorkintosh> now that i've convinced ubuntu to use my usb card successfully, jackd refuses to use it.
[02:04] <bjorkintosh> i only get output by switching back to my old card.
[02:04] <bjorkintosh> what gives?
[02:06] <kara> How might one find drivers for an original macbook.  Intel GMA 950 I can't find anything useful
[02:08] <chroot> hi, everyone, i want to learn the graphical programming in linux, but i don't know what to start, any advice?
[02:08] <_sjs> what language?
[02:10] <hilo> hello everyone. the NIC in my storage server died last night. there is one onboard the mobo but I cannot get it to work. Can someone help me get that interface working so I can have my storage server back?
[02:10] <techquila> hi all ... can anyone offer any solution to this problem for me please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990842
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> kara: which macbook?
[02:11] <kara> macbook 1,1
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> kara: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:13] <kara> oneric
[02:13] <kara> ActionParsnip: Oneiric
[02:14] <techquila> hilo: does it show up in ifconfig?
[02:14] <usuario> orkut
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> kara: is it a macbook air 1,1?
[02:15] <kara> no. Just macbook
[02:17] <Wingede> ActionParsnip: with the GMA 950 - will either be 1,1 or 2,1
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Wingede: no idea, I don't use mac rubbish
[02:17] <rebe> how do I change tab size ?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> kara: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo dmidecode -t 1       thanks
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> rebe: in which app!?
[02:18] <rebe> in ubuntu globaly
[02:19] <rebe> because for example terminal python or tomboy are using 8 spaces tab, and there is no option to change it in those two
[02:19] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: thanks.  dmidecode - never heard of it.  "is  a tool for dumping a computer's DMI (some say SMBIOS) table contents in a human-read‐ able format
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: dead  hamdy, shows bios version so you can see if there is a newer version
[02:20] <kara> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/0LYKGB9j
[02:21] <chsados> i need some major help setting up postfix
[02:21] <mbeierl> chrrot - python is a good language to start with
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> kara: thanks, are you fully updated?
[02:21] <mbeierl> chroot, ^
[02:21] <kara> bios wise?
[02:22] <Chariblaze> Is there a place to go for Intel GMA drivers?
[02:23] <chroot> mbeierl: i want to simulate some event and make simple gui.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> kara: no, ubuntu
[02:23] <mbeierl> chroot, might want to /join #python and get more info about the language there
[02:24] <kara> ActionParsnip: yes. Ran the update
[02:24] <mbeierl> chroot, python is simple, yet powerful enough that even some games have been written using it
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> kara: what is the issue with the display?
[02:25] <faglnar> is ubuntu.com down?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> faglnar: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[02:26] <hilo> techquila: it doesn't show at all, only the dead eth0 shows (the pci card is still in the machine but it will not get link lights with known good everything else). If I do "ifconfig -a" I do see the eth1 interface but it has no IP despite link lights being on.
[02:26] <kara> ActionParsnip: No openGL
[02:27] <KRomo> i just switched back to rhythmbox
[02:27] <kara> I'm pretty sure there won't be any 3d support either
[02:28] <hilo> techquila: Also, I tried "ifconfig eth1 up" which executed without complaints. After that, eth1 does show up in a standard "ifconfig" but still with no IP address
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> kara: just just use mac os as it is designed
[02:34] <PAMPAM> ciao
[02:34] <PAMPAM> !list
[02:39] <Studious> hello linux world
[02:40] <techquila> hilo: you want to use dhcp or static?
[02:41] <csioktel> hi, anyone know which sftp(gui) client program support socks5 connection?
[02:41] <techquila> hilo: ifconfig eth1 dhcp up   or ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>/24 up  (replacing the ip address with one that will fit in your domain/subnet
[02:42] <techquila> hilo: then if you need net access you will need to add dns info to /etc/resolv.conf
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> csioktel: possibly filezilla
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> csioktel: have you tried nautilus?
[02:42] <hilo> techquila: dhcp (but the dhcp hands out static IPs)
[02:43] <techquila> hilo: I'm no ninja but that's how i configure my interfaces with that method
[02:44] <techquila> hilo: hehe.. they are actually dynamically generated and only valid during its lease time
[02:44] <hilo> techquila: is there a switch I need for dhcp? in the format you suggested, I get "dhcp: Host name lookup falure"
[02:44] <csioktel> AcionParsnip: i tried filezilla, and i only found it socks5 for ftp, but can not found sftp.
[02:44] <tr3nton> !ftp
[02:45] <techquila> hilo: did you do the ifconfig eth1 dhcp up? if so and you still get that then you will need to add gateway  like this
[02:45] <hilo> techquila: When I run "ifconfig eth1 dhcp up" I get that error and the command does not execute
[02:46] <techquila> hilo: sorry if you open up /etc/network/interfaces by doing sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[02:47] <hilo> techquila: I have already added the auto eth1 line in my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:48] <hilo> techquila: but it complains when I try to restart networking (/etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: sorry i keep hitting the enter key by mistake... look for the line that points to eth1 or create it:  iface eth1 inet static
[02:49] <hilo> techquila: "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: new line
[02:49] <techquila> hilo: whene did that occur?
[02:50] <techquila> hilo: have you added gateway adress?
[02:50] <hilo> techquila: I think I figured it out...
[02:50] <techquila> hilo: ie address of your router?
[02:51] <Infinity_> I have a problem, I just booted into my Ubuntu 32 bit and my menu bar isn't showing up.
[02:51] <Infinity_> version 12.04, i'm talking about the top and left side bars
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: in my /etc/networking/interfaces file, I had auto eth1 but then referenced eth0 on the next line to enable dhcp
[02:52] <kosko> what package contains python?
[02:52] <techquila> Infinity_: try logging out and logging in again, if that don't work you may not have the hardware to support unity so try loggin out and in with gnome or classic
[02:52] <reisio> python
[02:52] <kosko> reisio: it can't find it upon apt-get install
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: Yeah, changed that and it is all good
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: Thanks!
[02:52] <Infinity_> techquila, i was able to login before with my current hardware
[02:52] <hilo> techquila: wouldn't have noticed that for hours...
[02:53] <techquila> hilo: sweet.. can be a bit of a frustration sometimes this networking bizniz
[02:53] <kosko> reisio: nevermind, i din't notice it was installed
[02:53] <reisio> kosko: ho ho! :D
[02:54] <bluefox83> ok, so i finally got back into my user account, and it's at 400x600 and i get a wierd error when i try to change my display,...it gives a long error in a dialog box and i can't even see the whole thing
[02:54] <bluefox83> something about XRABDR
[02:55] <bluefox83> er, XRandR
[02:55] <kosko> can you imagin dropbox cli version consumes 150mb ram, what a bitch?!
[02:55] <techquila> Infinity_: recent upgrade to 12.04 or you been using 12.04 and this problem just started happening
[02:55] <techquila> ?
[02:56]  * bluefox83 is seriously missing his server box he uses for backups >.>
[02:56] <bot1024> http://mfwc.baidu.com/  click here to help poor children in china.
[02:56] <bluefox83> O.o
[02:56] <bluefox83> how is that bot here?
[02:57] <bot1024> i from china
[02:57] <xangua> bot1024: don't spam please
[02:57] <Infinity_> i recently upgraded to 12.04 about 2 or 3 weeks ago technoviking
[02:58] <bot1024> xangua,  ok..
[02:58] <xangua> Infinity_: did you try reseting unity and compiz¿
[02:58] <techquila> Infinity_: and never had a menu bar since?
[02:58] <Infinity_> no, i just booted in to it today and this happened
[02:58] <bluefox83> brb
[02:59] <techquila> infinity: quick google search reveals this link which may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127240/missing-launcher-after-12-04-upgrade
[02:59] <bluefox83> that was fun :)
[03:00] <bluefox83> ok...so how do i get gnome to actually work with more than 400x600 resolution? the dang display thingy is useless. i get a random error i don't understand
[03:01] <bluefox83> something about Xrand
[03:01]  * techquila has done some community service now.. anyone care to look at his problem
[03:01] <bluefox83> techquila: whats the problem?
[03:01] <XiRoN> How do I close and unclosable program running on ubuntu server that is taking up 6GB RAM on my host system?
[03:01] <XiRoN> and = an
[03:01] <mikeiee> anyone here good with PHP&MYSQL.
[03:01] <techquila> bluefox83: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1990842
[03:01] <XiRoN> mikeiee: try ##php or ##mysql
[03:02] <bluefox83> XiRoN: ps x then find the pid for the application, then kill -9 pid
[03:02] <mikeiee> i need help ASAP ! and nobody is replying on there
[03:02] <XiRoN> What does -9 do?
[03:02] <XiRoN> Whats the problem mikeiee?
[03:02] <bluefox83> techquila: i don't have a mouse at the moment...i had to hit ctrl alt f1 to chat here with irssi
[03:02] <mikeiee> XiRoN, YOu know PHP & MYSQL/
[03:02] <XiRoN> Yes.
[03:03] <bluefox83> XiRoN: no idea
[03:03] <XiRoN> lol bluefox83
[03:03] <bluefox83> all i know is, it works
[03:03] <UNIXnerd> hello
[03:03] <XiRoN> wow it worked thanks :)
[03:03] <mikeiee> PM XiRoN,
[03:03] <bluefox83> you're welcome
[03:04] <techquila> bluefox83: i'm having issues upgrading my server to 12.04 with do-release-upgrade ... failing to fetch upgrade tool... wget on the address works though
[03:04] <techquila> bluefox83: followed correct upgrade path
[03:04] <bluefox83> hrm, you might try another mirror O.o
[03:04] <bluefox83> techquila: does it give any specific error?
[03:05] <techquila> bluefox83: tried several... its got me stumped... a lot of people have this error over the years with other releases according to the goog
[03:05] <UNIXnerd> my system want me to upgrade to 11.04, i'm on Xubuntu, I have custom grub stuff and settings
[03:05] <UNIXnerd> will I lose any apps/binaries/settings?
[03:06] <techquila> bluefox83: in fact if memory serves me i've had the same issue several times before with prior upgrades..but i'm buggered if I can remember how i overcame it
[03:06] <imnichol> Anyone else having problems purchasing from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[03:06] <Guest96099> I have a question about bitmap files
[03:08] <techquila> UNIXnerd: I wouldn't have thought so unless the apps are no longer supported in the newer release
[03:09] <bluefox83> techquila: i don't recall how to do that...i believe there's a file you need to change that has to do with whether or not to upgrade on releases.
[03:09] <Guest96099> How do I convert a 256 color bitmap file (.bmp) to a 16 color DOS style bitmap (.BMP) using Ubuntu software?
[03:09] <techquila> bluefox83: sorry overlooked your last message.. the error is simply this:, and forgive the paste... you mentioned you couldn't follow links:  sod@theta:/var/www$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[03:09] <techquila> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[03:09] <techquila> Err Upgrade tool signature
[03:09] <techquila>   Connection failed
[03:09] <techquila> Get:1 Upgrade tool [5612 kB]
[03:09] <FloodBot1> techquila: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <techquila> Fetched 5612 kB in 0s (0 B/s)
[03:10] <NoNaMeNo> hi, how can I know if network manager is configured to start in each boot? I'm using 12.04 and I have to start nm-applet manually
[03:10] <sacarlson> Guest96099: might try gimp but I never tried change color numbers before
[03:10] <saliak> I'm trying to su to a different user w/out entering their password.  i do have sudo privs.  I type 'sudo su otheruser', but nothing happens.  any suggestions?
[03:10] <Guest96099> I tried Gimp and it failed to produce the needed result
[03:11] <sacarlson> Guest96099: other than going from color to black and white I know it can do that
[03:11] <bluefox83> hrm... i would try changing mirrors in your sources.list and seeing if that helps...
[03:12] <NoNaMeNo> should nm-applet be in startup applications?
[03:12] <Guest96099> This is machdohvah = Michael Flower
[03:12] <Harris> OerHeks,  what is the coolest feature about ubuntu
[03:12] <sacarlson> Harris: that it's free
[03:13] <Harris> oh um i am in yearbook next year and i was told i need to be able to put my head in the hunger games peta melarks body ??? how do i do that
[03:14] <bazhang> Harris, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:14] <Harris> using gimp
[03:14] <Guest96099> Incidentally, I tried to install DOS 6.20, Windows 7 and then Ubuntu 12.04... It failed to install!
[03:15] <Harris> Darael,  please give me the code to link the two folders again so that i can put it in my files
[03:16] <techquila> bluefox83: yea i think the file you speak of is the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file and the change being to the PROMPT for LTS or NOrmal.. thats unfortunately not the issue here either.  I think i'm gonna have to do a clean install .. i've spent a couple of days trying to get this sorted and i'm just going nowhere... i want to thank you for your assistance though.  :-)
[03:17] <wtf-mike> Guest96099: using gimp go to image->mode->indexed. From there you can set the max colors and select how to optimize
[03:17] <KRomo> wow rhythmbox is friggin amazing....i have it set up with my entire mp3 collection, fav radio stations and podscasts
[03:17] <KRomo> and it works so smooth
[03:18] <Harris> Darael, what was the code
[03:18] <Guest96099> I tried that and it showed a series of blue colors
[03:18] <Guest96099> Should I set the parameter first before loading the BMP?
[03:20] <Harris> anyone know how to link a folder to another
[03:20] <bluefox83> techquila: sorry i wasn't more helpful
[03:21] <bluefox83> this is really pissing me off...grrr
[03:22] <techquila> NoNaMeNo: try this: sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
[03:23] <NoVoteLoss> does anyone use conky on 12.04?
[03:23] <bluefox83> i forget, what is conky/
[03:23] <bluefox83> ?
[03:23] <xangua> !anyone | NoVoteLoss
[03:23] <bluefox83> cus i have it but don't recall what it's for
[03:23] <NoVoteLoss> thanks ubottu, sorry its a system monitor
[03:23] <bluefox83> !conky
[03:23] <Harris> what is the code to symlink a folder
[03:24] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076  NoVoteLoss here's the beginners guide, have a read
[03:24] <bluefox83> Harris:  ln -s
[03:24] <techquila> bluefox83: no worries at all.. can i help you at all?
[03:24] <oich> how can I make the grub boot menu appear at boot in 12.04?
[03:24] <Harris> no
[03:24] <Harris> it was longer
[03:24] <xangua> oich: hold Shift key when you turn on the pc
[03:25] <bluefox83> techquila: i'm having a lot of trouble with my gnome not letting me change resolution
[03:25] <Harris> symlink a folder code
[03:25] <goddard> how do you guys manage multiple versions of wine
[03:25] <bluefox83> it has this bad error that pops up in a dialog
[03:25] <techquila> Harris: bluefox was correct but you have to add the folder paths
[03:25] <oich> xangua thanks
[03:26] <Harris> can you give me the one with target and something else
[03:26] <bluefox83> yeah, i couldn't recall what to call the target and the place you want to put the link
[03:26] <alFReD-NSH> My ubuntu 12.04 is not booting up anymore... It gets stuck on “/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present” and I can't do anything but to restart again
[03:26] <alFReD-NSH> Also yesterday been having this http://askubuntu.com/questions/144623/compiz-configuration-settings-are-not-working problem
[03:27] <alFReD-NSH> Right now, I boot up with ubuntu 10.4 live CD, don't know what to do to take it back
[03:27] <techquila> bluefox83: ... just having a think
[03:28] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: you are waiting for it eh... it takes a min sometimes
[03:28] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: encrypted home directory right?
[03:28] <alFReD-NSH> techquila I saw that before, and used to boot up, but now its not working anymore and gets stuck
[03:28] <Harris> can you give me the code to  symlink a folder it has a target and a link
[03:29] <alFReD-NSH> I can't even recover my home, it says Private directory is not ready
[03:29] <alFReD-NSH> # ecryptfs-mount-private  ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[03:29] <techquila> Harris: ln -s <destination> <linkname>
[03:30] <Harris> thank you techquila
[03:30] <techquila> Harris: my pleasure.
[03:30] <Harris> techquila,  i have another wuestion
[03:30] <bluefox83> techquila: your nickname is making me want some tequila >.>
[03:31] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: new install was it?
[03:31] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Yes, about a week ago I did
[03:31] <techquila> Harris: go ahead i'll do my best.. i really should get back to coding but lets hear it
[03:32] <techquila> bluefox83: my fav!! had to give up the booze though as my body rejects completely now
[03:32] <KRomo> how can i set default apps for file extentions?
[03:32] <KRomo> i want .nfo files to open in nfo viewer when i double click
[03:32] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: and were you ever able to boot into that sys
[03:32] <Harris> i used the codes Code for installing: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:32] <Harris> Code for Enabling:sudo modprobe b43 for getting my wifi to work
[03:33] <Harris> i was told to put b43 at the end of a file and that made it start by default do you know the name of that file
[03:33] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Yes I saw that message all the time, took a sec to pass it...
[03:34] <alFReD-NSH> Also been playing around with ccsm...
[03:34] <delac> KRomo: right click the file, select properties, select "open with"-tab
[03:34] <XXCoder> wtf
[03:34] <KRomo> nevermind i figured it out
[03:34] <KRomo> delac: thanks :)
[03:34] <XXCoder> when I try gparted it says its not installed
[03:34] <KRomo> i should look b4 i ask
[03:34] <Harris> i used the codes Code for installing: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Code for Enabling:sudo modprobe b43 for getting my wifi to work techquila
[03:34] <XXCoder> but when I try to run it it says not found
[03:35] <Harris> OerHeks, are you online
[03:37] <techquila> Harris: not too sure what you are asking? you want your wifi active on boot yea?  and its the Broadcom b43 drivers you've installed? and the device works when you enable it yea?
[03:37] <Harris> i found it online
[03:37] <Harris> techquila,  what did you mean by writing code
[03:37] <curiousx> Harris: sudo echo b43 >> /etc/modules
[03:38] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: sounds like posssible corruption..
[03:38] <susanwest> Hello all. When I ssh into ubuntu it tells me "6 packages can be updated". I do "apt-get upgrade installed" and it says not packages to update. what am i doing wrong?
[03:39] <techquila> Harris: i've got a website to finish...
[03:39] <alFReD-NSH> (facepalm) This is the second time happening... :(
[03:39] <Harris> cool you are making a website
[03:39] <techquila> susanwest: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:39] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: check your disk health
[03:40] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: might be time for a new one
[03:40] <Harris> what is the url techquila
[03:40] <susanwest> techquilla: that's it thanks. but how does ubuntu know the packages are out of date if it doesn't yet have the updated package descriptions?
[03:40] <techquila> Harris: its not actually live yet..its on my dev server
[03:41] <Harris> can you teach me
[03:41] <techquila> susanwest: its awfully clever
[03:41] <Harris> how to write code
[03:41] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Actually last time my disk crashed when I was merging partitions using acronis disk director, making all of my partition to be gone...
[03:42] <bluefox83> holy crap, got it working competely by accident :D
[03:42] <bluefox83> logged into unity and the stinking control display thingy worked without erroring, then logged back into gnome and POOF it's working right >.>
[03:42] <Harris> techquila,  what program do you use
[03:43] <bluefox83> bye folks
[03:43] <techquila> Harris: i do love to teach but i lack the time unfortunately.. i've already wasted far too much time here today... very good at procrastinating.  I can happily point you to some solid references that will get you started for sure... let me write some down for you.
[03:45] <techquila> Harris: I use emacs... the only editor anyone should ever use.. but there is a real steep learning curve ahead of you should you wish to take that path... you won't regret once you get the hang of it tho.. i use it for everything.. i'm even talking to you now through it
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont find the emacs learning curve steap. it just that people  are not used  having to 'learn' how to use a program. :)
[03:46] <Chuck_Norris> i like emacs-nox :D
[03:47] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: i feel for you buddy.. i've had similar things happen over the years... its all experience though.. hope you learnt to back everything up consistently
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> but i only some little html nothing more :(
[03:47] <Chuck_Norris> but i only code* some....
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> i do rarely use emacs these days. i tend to just do quick edits rarely much more
[03:47] <techquila> Dr_Willis: yea i had no trouble either and most nix
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> i did use some micfro emacs on  my amiga years ago. ;)
[03:48] <techquila> Dr_Willis: 's don't i'd imagine but i'd never recommend anyone from windoze world try
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> i still miss some of the  features the cygnusEd editor had on my amiga
[03:49] <techquila> Dr_Willis: you any good with the elisp
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> never had ti lisp. ;)
[03:49] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: but the SMART thingy doesn't say anything bad about my disk, says its healthy...
[03:49] <techquila> Dr_Willis: bring those features to life again on emacs with elisp
[03:50] <Harris> techquila, how do i learn
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> techquila:  a main feature of the editor and the amiga os was how most apps had a 'rexx port' for scripting and inter-app communication. a bit hard to recreate.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> alFReD-NSH:  smart data is a good guide, but is not always accurate. sadly
[03:52] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: chdsk from shell
[03:52] <Harris> techquila, how do i download emacs
[03:53] <Harris> what is the code that makes HUD work in libre
[03:53] <Chuck_Norris> Harris: sudo apt-get install emacs-nox
[03:54] <Harris> Chuck_Norris,  it says unable to locate package
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  i recall some libreoffice addon/package to  get global menus  working with it.  saw it mentioned at the webupd8 blog site i recall.
[03:54] <Chuck_Norris> sey Harris: sudo apt-get install  emacs23-nox
[03:54] <Chuck_Norris> sry* -.-
[03:54] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: How to to do that?
[03:54] <techquila> Harris: http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/ is a good start if you wish to learn standards based web design  and then http://code.google.com/edu/submissions/html-css-javascript/ ... for coding help there sitepoint.com, or interesting articles there is alistapart.com
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search emacs
[03:54] <xisor> hi, i have a question... is 11 gigs enough space for ubuntu 12.04 and a swap partition? all thats gonna be on it is a web browser and xbmc
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  should be.  but watch out for  space filling up
[03:55] <xisor> Dr_Willis: as i said, xbmc is the only thing being added to the default install
[03:55] <xisor> Dr_Willis: xbmc library will grow to about 2 gigs of local storage
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> apt updates can take  a big cache.
[03:56] <xisor> Dr_Willis: just need to know if its enough space
[03:56] <Harris> Dr_Willis, what was the url
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> ive ran full ubuntu installs on 8gb flash drives
[03:56] <xisor> Dr_Willis: ok
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  type in webupd8
[03:56] <|cfh|> i have ubuntu on a 6 gig partition and things are well for me
[03:57] <alFReD-NSH> Harris: In case if you wanna do any web dev, make sure you don't go around w3schools site...
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: i have a 16 ggi Msata SSD in this system, its a micro PC
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: so it aint got alot of room to spare :D
[03:57] <|cfh|> i just run bleachbit from time to time to clean up bs
[03:57] <|cfh|> :)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> ive seen my apt cache dir take up 2gb befor. ;)
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: just picked it up, gonna be my media center XD
[03:57] <Valiant5481> diskless question, can I install softwares to the server I want to boot into. Ex: I want Wine installed so that when the client boots (pxe) they already have wine installed.
[03:57] <bdfoster> So, i just did a clean install of 12.04, rebooted, logged in, and BOOM! mouse on a black background.
[03:57] <xisor> Dr_Willis: its an AMD fusion E450 system, hope its fast enough
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> xisor:  check out 'plex' sometime also
[03:58] <bdfoster> anyone know what the deal is on that?
[03:58] <xisor> 1.66ghz dual core and integrated AMD 6320 GPU and 4 gigs of ram
[03:58] <xisor> HOPE its fast enough
[03:58] <ShadowFios> I'm setting up thunderbird mail client
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | bdfoster
[03:58] <xisor> Dr_Willis: whole system is 5.2 inch x 4.4 inch x .71 inch in size, its REALLY small
[03:58] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: sorry i should have said fschk
[03:59] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, well i can log in just fine
[03:59] <ShadowFios> and I want to set a folder it automatically opens to when the app launches
[03:59] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: fschk /dev/sd?  (replace question mark with your drive)
[03:59] <xisor> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info =) ill be back when my sound doesnt work properly, as im sure it wont rofl
[03:59] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: that will check your filesys.
[04:00] <techquila> then you want to check your harddisk using one of the tools out there
[04:00] <dariush> :)
[04:00] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: badblocks perhaps?
[04:00] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: should be on the goog somewhere
[04:00] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, there is also a mouse on the screen, and it moves
[04:01] <alFReD-NSH> Don't have fschk installing
[04:01] <ShadowFios> I'm setting up thunderbird mail client and I want to set a folder to automatically open to when the app launches
[04:01] <Harris> how can i tell all of the terminal codes i have ever typed and what they did
[04:01] <alFReD-NSH> Though I just recovered my home...
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Harris:  history command shows your current  'history'
[04:02] <techquila> Harris:  you run x-window?  just go to software sources and find emacs... you want the GNU emacs as opposed to XEMacs... and version 23x
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> ShadowFios:  so you want a single icon toi launch thunderbird and open up a file manager window at a specific location?
[04:02] <Valiant5481> diskless question, can I install softwares to the server I want to boot into. Ex: I want Wine already installed when client boots (pxe).
[04:03] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Can someone recommend a site for checking linux compatibility of motherboards?  I've had someone recommend an Asus P8Z86-V
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  should be able to set up the boot enviromenthow youi want. be sort of  useless otherwise
[04:03] <techquila> Harris: be warned.. you will be doing a lot of reading and experimenting in your learning curve.. stick with it though and you will never look back after you've cracked it!
[04:04] <ShadowFios> In thunderbird I have a local folder called 'Incoming'. When the application launches I want it to go to that page instead of the default
[04:04] <Valiant5481> Dr_Willis, will the client have independent file storage within the server?
[04:04] <ShadowFios> 'that page' being Incoming
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> ShadowFios:  you mean IN thunderbird then..
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  no idea. i dont use such setups
[04:04] <Harris> techquila, this The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
[04:04] <Valiant5481> okay, thanks gonna try diskless =)
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Valiant5481:  normally such things use nfs for a exported home dir i thought
[04:05] <techquila> right everyone.. i'm gonna have to get back into some work.. sorry if there are unreplied questions i gots to pay the bills
[04:05] <techquila> Harris: yup
[04:05]  * techquila wishes you all a great weekend!
[04:05] <Harris> ok thanks how long will it take me to get good and make money
[04:06] <Valiant5481> ah, nfs, thanks a lot
[04:07] <dsnyders> !hardware
[04:07] <techquila> harris... haha how quickly do you learn? how patient are you? are you prepared to put the time in to learn properly?  if so maybe a couple of years ... to do it right that is.. or if you just want a be a hack cowboy.. man you can do it in a day.. haha
[04:07] <techquila> Harris: but the latter will earn you no respect
[04:07] <Harris> techquila, The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage) is not in my dash it finished installing
[04:08] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: I can't umount my harddisk, coz I already mounted my home dir
[04:09] <techquila> Harris: you will need to add it to your dash.. i suspect, with that last statement, that i've just led you down a path of eternal frustration... good luck
[04:09] <Harris> i am starting tomarrow bye
[04:09] <Harris> thanks everyone
[04:09] <Harris> oh
[04:09] <alFReD-NSH> techquila: Should I go for a clean reinstall?
[04:09] <Harris> who knows how to synlink a folder
[04:10] <ShadowFios> In thunderbird I have a local folder called 'Incoming'. When the application launches I want it to go to 'Incoming' instead of the default
[04:11] <techquila> alFReD-NSH: you have a pretty complex issue that i can't really talk you through at this time.  If you are unsure how to mount and unmount filesystems and can afford to lose the data on that disk i would suggest a clean install as the best option.  and consider whether it is really necessary to encrypt your home directory.
[04:11] <alFReD-NSH> Harris: http://bit.ly/KCOqo5
[04:11] <Harris> i want to link my tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:11] <dsnyders> ShadowFios, You may want to try asking that question in one of the thunderbird specific chat rooms.  You might have better luck.
[04:12] <Xpl01t> guys i'm sorry but this new gnome is a really shit
[04:12] <windbuntu> new gnome?
[04:12] <xangua> !language | Xpl01t
[04:12] <Xpl01t> it is annoying
[04:12] <Xpl01t> !language | xangua
[04:12] <Xpl01t> yea
[04:13] <Xpl01t> new gnome
[04:13] <Xpl01t> unity
[04:13] <xangua> Xpl01t: please drop that attitude
[04:13] <Xpl01t> something like that
[04:13] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <Chuck_Norris> Harris: ln -s target-dir/ dir-symlink
[04:13] <windbuntu> i like unity?
[04:13] <Xpl01t> with that new "design" that seems to be like a smartphone
[04:13] <Xpl01t> i cant produce as much as i used to produce with the old gnome
[04:13] <bazhang> !ot | Xpl01t
[04:13] <Chuck_Norris> o sry does it for dirs Harris =P
[04:14] <alFReD-NSH> techquila left :( Anyone else can help with my problem? My ubuntu can't boot up anymore and gets stuck at "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready"
[04:14] <Chuck_Norris> that* is..
[04:14] <ShadowFios> well I'll leave my issue for tommorow
[04:14] <Xpl01t> offtopic?
[04:14] <Xpl01t> that's ubuntu man
[04:14] <bazhang> Xpl01t, yes
[04:14] <Xpl01t> that affects all users
[04:14] <Xpl01t> ppl use ubuntu cuz of gnome
[04:14] <alFReD-NSH> Used to see that before but it passed in seconds, right now it gets stuck in that screen
[04:14] <windbuntu> Xpl01t, you can still use gnome
[04:14] <Xpl01t> if they would like unix and terminal, they would use arch linux
[04:14] <bazhang> Xpl01t, please stop. this is not the chat channel
[04:14] <Xpl01t> chat?
[04:14] <Xpl01t> man!
[04:14] <Xpl01t> i'm complaining
[04:14] <Xpl01t> i'm not chatting with ppl
[04:14] <Harris> how do you sync tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:14] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <Xpl01t> i dont want to chat
[04:15] <xangua> Xpl01t: stop that please, this is Support
[04:15] <bazhang> Xpl01t, wrong channel for complaining
[04:15] <Xpl01t> when i installed ubuntu it told me to come here
[04:15] <Xpl01t> to this channel
[04:15] <Xpl01t> if i would have some issue about ubuntu
[04:15] <Xpl01t> so, that is the issue
[04:15] <alFReD-NSH> Do you guys think is it possible to remove this encryption thingy from home dir?
[04:15] <Xpl01t> how could gnome change that much?
[04:15] <dsnyders> Xpl01t, do you have a question, or are you just blowing off steam?
[04:15] <bazhang> Xpl01t, having an issue is not ranting/complaining
[04:15] <caf4926> Xpl01t: just give it time
[04:15] <Xpl01t> pffff
[04:16] <roasted> Is there a command I can run to restart the mouse/cursor service or whatever? I just magically lost my mouse out of no where.
[04:16] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: i'm already adapted to gnome 3.4
[04:16] <Abhijit> roasted, not sure about this but you may try restaring the x.
[04:17] <Chuck_Norris> the trick is just use the virtual desktops
[04:17] <shimon_net> --------> 1515151 <--------
[04:17] <roasted> Abhijit, I'd like to not lose any open programs. I have several VMs Im installing at once right now.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> roasted:  perhaps one f the vm's grabbed it andlocked it
[04:17] <Abhijit> roasted, http://askubuntu.com/questions/118001/how-to-restart-only-missing-invisible-mouse-pointer-cursor
[04:17] <dsnyders> Where would be a good site to find  out about a motherboard's linux compatibility ?
[04:17] <Xpl01t> so
[04:17] <Xpl01t> it's the way you treat ppl
[04:18] <Xpl01t> baning and kicking from the channel
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: instead of minimizing windows just put windows in separate virtual desktop thats all
[04:18] <Xpl01t> thank you ubuntu comunity!
[04:18] <roasted> Dr_Willis, I wasnt in a VM when it locked in the first place, but the release key isn't working either.
[04:18] <Xpl01t> i thought you were more friendly!!!
[04:18] <roasted> Abhijit, I uh.... I can't click on that link... because I have no mouse.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> dsnyders:  id say just google for the mb model and 'linux' andlook for problem reports
[04:18] <Xpl01t> man
[04:18] <Xpl01t> i usually work with more than 10 windows
[04:18] <roasted> at best I'm going to alt-tab until I see the VMs completed, then reboot
[04:18] <Xpl01t> how could i separate in 10 virtual desktops?
[04:18] <Xpl01t> thats insane
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> is not a problem
[04:18] <Xpl01t> what have ppl done with gnome????
[04:18] <Chuck_Norris> you will have so many virtual desktop as you need
[04:18] <Xpl01t> and thank you
[04:18] <brianpWins> On the website theres instruction to setup a usb install on a mac (for a mac) and on windows (for windows) but how do I set up a usb stick on a mac for windows?
[04:18] <bazhang> Xpl01t, thats enough.
[04:18] <roasted> what's wrong with gnome?
[04:18] <Xpl01t> for baning me from the channel!
[04:19] <roasted> works great once you get used to it. unity included.
[04:19] <Xpl01t> i can see that you "welcame" ppl very well here!!!!
[04:19] <Abhijit> roasted, can you go to alt f2?
[04:19] <roasted> yes, we welcame everyone
[04:19] <reisio> roasted: most people liked it as it was at version 2, you see
[04:19] <reisio> people in general are usually conservative
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  stick to the problem. less ranting
[04:19] <roasted> Abhijit, yes
[04:19] <netmk> Xpl01t: relax dude/
[04:19] <Xpl01t> man
[04:19] <Xpl01t> that is shitty
[04:19] <Xpl01t> i cant see the windows i'm working
[04:19] <roasted> Abhijit, anything keyboard related I can get to (THANK GOD FOR HUD)
[04:19] <Abhijit> roasted, type this gksudo modprobe -r psmouse
[04:20] <Xpl01t> cant know if they are minimized
[04:20] <JoseeAntonioR> Xpl01t: Please, stop it.
[04:20] <bazhang> Xpl01t, last warning. this is support only. not ranting complaining etc
[04:20] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: gnome shell already have a lot of extensions that could helps you
[04:20] <Xpl01t> only by a color diference
[04:20] <Xpl01t> cant see the titles
[04:20] <roasted> Abhijit, in alt f2? or runt hat in terminal?
[04:20] <Abhijit> roasted, alt f2 is the terminal
[04:20] <Xpl01t> if you open 2 ou 3 firefox or gedit windows
[04:20] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone know  How to Remove an Encrypted Private Directory Setup from live cd?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  we can understand complete sentances also. no need to hit enter every 4 words
[04:20] <Xpl01t> its a headache to select the one you want
[04:20] <roasted> Abhijit, just wanted to make sure. when Im in alt f2 I can't see xchat to see the command. :D
[04:20] <Harris> ow do i sync tomboy notes to dropbox
[04:21] <Xpl01t> wtf
[04:21] <Xpl01t> how can i change that?
[04:21] <Abhijit> alFReD-NSH, if you have the key then just login to that directory and copy content to somewhere else?
[04:21] <Harris> when i change the path it always goes right back
[04:21] <Xpl01t> is there a way to use KDE instead gnome?
[04:21] <Xpl01t> cuz gnome is a shit now
[04:21] <roasted> Abhijit, got some output back. looks almost like a man page with some commands listed.
[04:21] <FloodBot1> Xpl01t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <roasted> ban please
[04:21] <Xpl01t> i dont want to use gnome if it keep that new design
[04:21] <bazhang> Xpl01t, watch the language. dont use enter as punctuation
[04:21] <Abhijit> roasted, are you sure you are in ALT 2?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  install kde if youi want kde. its in the repos
[04:21] <roasted> Abhijit, no, terminal
[04:21] <Chuck_Norris> no, just move your cursor to the top left corner and you will see all your windows applications
[04:21] <Harris> can someone please tell me where are tomboy notes stored
[04:21] <bazhang> !notunity | Xpl01t
[04:21] <Abhijit> roasted, bah. no problem. terminal will also do. type that commond in terminal
[04:21] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: and you can select what ever you want
[04:22] <si32> when your laptop does not power off automatically when you go to shut down there is something you can do to fix this; anybody know how? or where the directions are to put in some sort of quarks mode?
[04:22] <roasted> reminds me of G J wentworth commercials. It's my gnome and I want it NOW
[04:22] <roasted> Abhijit, k, just looks like the end of a man page though
[04:22] <Xpl01t> i've installed that gnome shell yestarday
[04:22] <netmk> Xpl01t: also, you could learn the hotkeys to quickly swap to different windows and workspaces
[04:22] <Xpl01t> now it's hard to create a simple shortcut
[04:22] <Harris> i need to sync my tomboy notes with my dropbox account
[04:22] <jotaxpe> hi speak spanish?
[04:22] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: and, like ubottu told ya there is a lot of desktop enviroments that you can try
[04:22] <bazhang> jotaxpe, #ubuntu-es
[04:22] <Xpl01t> and to open admin utilitaries (like process manager, etc)
[04:22] <Abhijit> Harris, may be in ~/.config
[04:23] <jotaxpe> ;)
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> !es | jotaxpe
[04:23] <roasted> You've used Gnome Shell since yesterday, whcih clearly means you haven't used it enough to get used to it.
[04:23] <Abhijit> roasted, man page? what are you doing? just type that command?
[04:23] <Harris> how do i sync tomboy notes with dropbox
[04:23] <Harris> please
[04:23] <roasted> Use it more. Give it a time. Get usedt o it.
[04:23] <alFReD-NSH> Abhijit: I already have recovered it my home directory, just asking how to make not be encrypted anymore... That is not letting me boot up
[04:23] <Chuck_Norris> Xpl01t: no it isn't just do:  gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[04:23] <roasted> Abhijit, yes
[04:23] <Xpl01t> and one more time i have to say: thank you for baning me
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  never had any issues. there are indicator-applets thatgive you the old classic gnome menus in unity and gnome-shell
[04:23] <roasted> Abhijit, fyi I'm on a laptop if it matters
[04:24] <Xpl01t> i came here to express my opinion because it's on the installationg readme.txt that i could come here and talk to the ubuntu comunity
[04:24] <Abhijit> roasted, ok executed the command? then now run gksudo modprobe psmouse
[04:24] <Xpl01t> and i can see that you dont welcome everyone that comes here
[04:24] <reisio> Xpl01t: ah, that reminds me
[04:24] <Xpl01t> i felt very upset with your behavior
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  expressing oponions is not support.. and wpould be for  the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[04:24] <JoseeAntonioR> Xpl01t: As mentioned before, this is a support channel.
[04:24] <bazhang> Xpl01t, it is offtopic. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic this is support only not complaints dept
[04:24] <Harris> how do i sync tomboy notes with dropbox
[04:24] <xangua> Xpl01t: not with that attitude, please drop it
[04:24] <Abhijit> Xpl01t, do you have constructive suggestions for ubuntu?
[04:25] <bazhang> !brainstorm | Xpl01t
[04:25] <Abhijit> :-(
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, didn't seem to do anything
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, eh, I'll just reboot once these VMs are done installing
[04:25] <xilian> hello
[04:25] <roasted> thankfully I have ALT + TAB yet
[04:25] <Xpl01t> yea i have a constructive suggestion: just stop using that new gnome or migrate to KDE as default
[04:25] <Abhijit> roasted, is that a usb mouse?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Xpl01t:  thats not going to  happen.
[04:25] <roasted> Abhijit, not sure. It's a laptop.
[04:25] <Abhijit> ok
[04:26] <Abhijit> roasted, ok then try restarting later on
[04:26] <Chuck_Norris> aloha xangua :D
[04:26] <Abhijit> Harris, http://lifehacker.com/5302854/synchronize-tomboy-notes-with-dropbox
[04:26] <roasted> Abhijit, appreciate the try though!
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> wasent there some replacements for tomboy in the  12.04? or in  the works? i liked topboys U1 sync feature. but  dont use it anymore
[04:27] <Chuck_Norris> Dr_Willis: ye
[04:27] <Chuck_Norris> i got one called "Gpaste"
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> !info  gpaste
[04:28] <Chuck_Norris> is a gnome shell extension
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> id likeone that  could sync tothecloud andhave a decent  android  client  also
[04:28] <JoseeAntonioR> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu One?
[04:28] <XiRoN> How can I install libnet0-dev on ubuntu?
[04:28] <WFPKHC> Hello world....
[04:28] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: sudo apt-get install libnet0-dev
[04:29] <Abhijit> dr_jesus, gnote
[04:29] <XiRoN> Nah dont work
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> !info  gnote
[04:29] <Chuck_Norris> Dr_Willis: i'll show ya mah Gpaste: http://i.imgur.com/BwkZQ.png
[04:29] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, gnote
[04:29] <Abhijit> of we are having another doctor here!
[04:29] <windbuntu> is unity even based on gnome or is it its own stand alone desktop?
[04:29] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: dont work
[04:29] <JoseeAntonioR> !info libnet0-dev
[04:29] <Abhijit> windbuntu, unity is shell for gnome desktop
[04:29] <windbuntu> ok Abhijit
[04:29] <XiRoN> !info libnet
[04:29] <XiRoN> !info lib
[04:30] <Chuck_Norris> !info Chuck Norris =P
[04:30] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: Seems like it's not in the repositories. You can install it with a deb file, or compiling it from source
[04:30] <bazhang> XiRoN, /msg ubottu
[04:30] <Xpl01t> do you see how you treat ppl?
[04:30] <Xpl01t> i had to use a new proxy
[04:30] <Xpl01t> just to return here
[04:30] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: How?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> actually i think  we have been very  patient andkind with mr. xpl01t
[04:31] <reisio> not me, I wasn't involved
[04:31] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, setting 'nomodeset' doesnt change anything. but upon closer inspection (before i changed it), i log in, it shows the desktop background, then shortly after it goes to a black screen with a mouse. maybe a graphics card/unity issue?
[04:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Hello everybody. I'm interested in building a new rig and I was wondering if anybody with a UEFI-based board has had trouble getting Ubuntu installed.
[04:31] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[04:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> I've been kind of worried about being locked into a system where I can't disable secureboot.
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  could be  a unity setting also. this  acleaninstall  or  a upgrade?
[04:31] <bdfoster> clean install
[04:31] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: Let me ask you, which version are you using?
[04:32] <brianpWins> can i just drag the .iso on my mac to a usb stick (fat-32 formatted) plug it into the pc and boot from it ?
[04:32] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: that's unlikely to be an issue, even when they start shipping
[04:32] <si32> does anybody know the guy who linus uses to fix his new laptop issues?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> Sir_Fawnpug:  i dident think  secureboot was  a feature  that was out  yet.
[04:32] <Abhijit> brianpWins, no
[04:32] <Abhijit> !usb | brianpWins
[04:32] <si32> * hint: i think he lives in australia ....
[04:32] <reisio> si32: his wife is a martial artist
[04:32] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: 11.04?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> brianpWins:  no.thst wont work. use a tool toput theiso on the  USBproperly
[04:32] <si32> reisio: what does that have to do with it?
[04:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I have seen a bunch of AMD boards with UEFI, wasn't sure if it had shipped. I suppose I should call the manufacturer just to make sure.
[04:32] <reisio> si32: puh!
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: UEFI and secure boot aren't the same thing
[04:33] <brianpWins> Abhijit: that does not explain the mac to pc process. that explains mac for mac and pc for pc not mac for pc
[04:33] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, clean install. had windoze on it before
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: neither are anything to be worried about
[04:33] <Abhijit> brianpWins, ammm??? what you want to do?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  what video  card?
[04:33] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I understand that. I was asking because I know it's a feature that's supposed to ship with UEFI boards.
[04:33] <brianpWins> i'm using a mac to make the usb stick. then installing with the usb stick on a pc
[04:33] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: what were you asking, again?
[04:33] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, uh, it's a nvidia card, i can get more specific if need be
[04:34] <Abhijit> brianpWins, if there is dd command for mac and if there is unetbootin for mac then procedure is same
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  you did  install thenvidia drivers?
[04:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I suppose what I was asking is if I am likely going to run into the secureboot issue with the UEFI boards that are already out.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> brianpWins:  check the pendrrivelinux site forothermac toolsand guides.
[04:34] <paulus68> I want to create a useraccount for doing backup purposes only how do I achieve this? don't need to have a home directory and other standard stuff for this user
[04:34] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: The package is no longer in the repositories, you won't be able to install it unless you get the source from a webpage.
[04:34] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, I didn't install them, dunno if it was done in the install process
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: you could but it's unlikely
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  try 'sudo apt-get install  nvidia-current'and see
[04:35] <XiRoN> JoseeAntonioR: How can I do that, I'm very new to linux
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: what you'd want to keep an eye out is for things labelled 'Made for Microsoft Windows 8' or something to that effect
[04:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, ahh, then that's good news.
[04:35] <WFPKHC> where may i get the iso for ubuntu dvd iso?
[04:35] <Harris> tomboy lens for ubuntu 12.04
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: to have such a boast associated with a product they're required to use secure boot
[04:35] <Abhijit> WFPKHC, ubuntu.com
[04:35] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: without such a boast they are under no such obligation to Microsoft
[04:35] <JoseeAntonioR> XiRoN: You would have to search for the package in google, for example
[04:35] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, right, I know that the x86 certification program requires a way to get rid of it.
[04:36] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, already installed and current.
[04:36] <reisio> they aren't really out yet anyways, the Windows 8 tablets
[04:36] <WFPKHC> Thank you for that response - is there someone who could provide me with another answer?
[04:36] <Harris> is the tomboy lens available for ubuntu 12.04
[04:36] <reisio> and the Android tablets are always going to be cheaper
[04:36] <reisio> and more likely to be supported by Linux drivers out of the box
[04:36] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, ahh, well I'm definitely avoiding the ARM hardware. I'm probably going to get an RPI or Beagleboard instead.
[04:36] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: releases.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  as a test you  could make  a  new user. see if  they  have the same  issue.also youmay  wan tto try  some alternative desktop like  lubuntu   untill you figure out whats going on with unity.
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> That is Windows 8 ARM hardware.
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: those are ARM, IIRC
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: oh :)
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, yeah, I don't mind ARM itself.
[04:37] <WFPKHC> thank you i will try that
[04:37] <Chuck_Norris> bdfoster: click in the Dash and write: nvidia
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah you won't find any issues on such conscientious offerings
[04:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> Just the hardware under the Windows 8 certification program.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  ive heard of others with a simile r issue. it maybe  some config  file needs removied. but i never noticed an exact fix for  theissue.
[04:37] <bdfoster> Chuck_Norris, there is no dash homey
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: it'll just be Windows 8 tablets, some of them, and possibly some Apple ones in future
[04:37] <paulus68> I want to create a useraccount for doing backup purposes only how do I achieve this?
[04:37] <reisio> Sir_Fawnpug: and of course it'll only be an issue before people figure out how to work around it :p
[04:38] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, same effect on a new user
[04:38] <Chuck_Norris> bdfoster: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:38] <JoseeAntonioR> !patience | paulus68
[04:38] <bdfoster> Chuck_Norris, no...
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  you  may want to try to install  the gnome-shell and  see if it or the gnome fallbackmodes work also.
[04:38] <Abhijit> paulus68, http://askubuntu.com/questions/29359/how-to-add-user-without-home
[04:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, haha, well I suppose I'm not hedging my bets on it. I'd rather work with unencumbered software anyway, I'm playing around with OS dev, and I'd like to... you know... be able to boot my kernel, haha
[04:38] <paulus68> Abhijit: thanks
[04:38] <reisio> yeah
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> So RPI and BeagleBone are definitely peices of hardware I'm going to buy.
[04:39] <reisio> not sure what you'll get out of both
[04:39] <chosendescent> hi
[04:39] <reisio> besides just variety of experience
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Cheap development platforms, really.
[04:39] <reisio> I mean out of getting each :)
[04:39] <reisio> but hey they're cheap
[04:39] <WFPKHC> is there a place where i can download the entire ubuntu iso? not desktop or server but the whole thing?
[04:39] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, is there a unity 2d?
[04:39] <chosendescent> Just installed Ubuntu over Win 8
[04:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> Both are pretty enticing, they have a lot of I/O exposed IIRC.
[04:39] <bdfoster> as opposed to a 3d?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  yep.  that maybe worth  tryingalso
[04:39] <reisio> I was going to get a raspberry pi, but the availability makes the low cost less effective :p
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-2d
[04:40] <reisio> chosendescent: gj
[04:40] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: What do you mean by the whole thing?
[04:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> Right, the low availability is the kicker.
[04:40] <Abhijit> WFPKHC, what do you mean by the whole thing? all the software packages?
[04:40] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, thx!
[04:40] <reisio> $25/$35 is great, but only if you can get one easily
[04:40] <reisio> I got my email about the second batch, but, it's kind of spoiled it for me :p
[04:40] <reisio> in a year or two, though, there'll be no such issues, and more competitors, and lower prices
[04:40] <chosendescent> Thanks reisio just been trying out all the different OS on netbook to see what works best Win 8 = suck!!!
[04:40] <Sir_Fawnpug> reisio, I remember VIA working on a similar board, not sure how hacker friendly it's going to be.
[04:41] <reisio> chosendescent: don't like the metro? :p
[04:41] <WFPKHC> well in another linux distro they have a dvd version that is 3.6gb
[04:41] <bdfoster> Dr_Willis, looks like it's already installed, is there a way to disable the 3d stuff?
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> But it'd make an interesting target
[04:41] <chosendescent> dont like anything about it
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> bdfoster:  seelct unity  2d at the  loginscreen
[04:41] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: "the whole thing" is in the Desktop CD
[04:41] <bdfoster> cool
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> I can see thin client written all over it.
[04:41] <bdfoster> alright gonna try
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> bbl.. got a job  to do
[04:41] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: the operating system is in there
[04:41] <reisio> chosendescent: did you like 7?
[04:41] <WFPKHC> if i download the desktop version can i install server software on it?
[04:41] <reisio> WFPKHC: yup
[04:41] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:42] <WFPKHC> will there be any difference in performance?
[04:42] <chosendescent> Not really I basically stopped liking windows after xp
[04:42] <reisio> WFPKHC: the only difference between them is the default config/preinstalled software
[04:42] <frankz> ue faccie di cazzo vi ammazzo la famiglia
[04:42] <reisio> WFPKHC: yes, but not that you'll notice as a human
[04:42] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: Yes, as long as you forward all ports correctly it'll work
[04:42] <JoseeAntonioR> !it |  frankz
[04:42] <paulus68> Abhijit: this backup user I want to create does only need to have access through ssh and nothing else what is the best option here to create this user?
[04:43] <WFPKHC> what if i dont have an amd processor but 64bit intell?
[04:43] <reisio> paulus68: useradd, done
[04:43] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:43] <chosendescent> Last time I tried linux it was a freaking kernel command prompt lol
[04:43] <reisio> WFPKHC: what if you don't
[04:43] <frankz> MA SUKA COGLIONE FACCIA DI CAZZO
[04:43] <reisio> chosendescent: which distro?
[04:43] <reisio> frankz: obviously
[04:43] <Abhijit> paulus68, i think thats mentioned in that thread. it do not give access through ssh. read it carefully.
[04:43] <chosendescent> The penquin
[04:43] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: then go for the 64 bit version, it's just a generic name that stuck with it
[04:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, what exactly are you asking?
[04:43] <frankz> obviosly your mother SUX MY DICK
[04:43] <frankz> FUACK U
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> These days amd64 and x86_64 are synonymous
[04:44] <WFPKHC> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ so if i download  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso   it will work with my computer?
[04:44] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:44] <reisio> oh right :p
[04:44] <JoseeAntonioR> !language | frankz
[04:44] <reisio> well it's genericized now
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, as long as it implements x86_64, yeah.
[04:44] <reisio> WFPKHC: yes, amd64 was the original name, we don't rename things in Unix land
[04:44] <frankz> yeah i like your mother language AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO A
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[04:44] <FloodBot1> frankz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> Aww, we made him bored.
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <FloodBot1> Harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD64
[04:45] <paulus68> reisio: since this user is getting access to ssh localy want to create keyfiles in order to allow this user to scp files from 1 pc to the server
[04:45] <reisio> paulus68: so create key files
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:45] <xangua> !repeat | Harr
[04:45] <xangua> aggg
[04:45] <Harris> who is harr
[04:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> !ops
[04:45] <paulus68> reisio: are there any pros and cons to this procedure?
[04:45] <xangua> Harris: stop that please
[04:45] <frankz23> AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCULO AFFANCU
[04:46] <goddard> how do i reload my bashrc?
[04:46] <Harris> bazhang,  how are you a op
[04:46] <reisio> paulus68: you could do it in a matter of minutes and undo it in the same
[04:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, source ~/.bashrc
[04:47] <paulus68> reisio:
[04:47] <paulus68> reisio: ok
[04:47] <Harris> bazhang,  how are you an op
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[04:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Thank you, elky.
[04:48] <Harris> elky, how are you op
[04:48] <bazhang> Harris, please stop
[04:48] <Harris> stop what? how are you op
[04:48] <vn> hmm I'm just done installing ubuntu and I cannot click like 10% of links and buttons...any ideas?
[04:48] <vn> Harris: that means stop repeating the same question
[04:49] <elky> Harris, people get to be ops by being around a long time and knowing lots of things.
[04:49] <vn> and earning respect
[04:49] <Harris> who gives you ops
[04:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> You guys have an insane amount of patience.
[04:49]  * WFPKHC sits quietly in the corner while he waits for the ISO to download*
[04:49] <vn> other ops
[04:50] <Harris> can i have ops
[04:50] <vn> no.
[04:50] <kandinski> I have installed jython 2.5.2 on /opt/jython. How do I get ubuntu to recognise this as my main jython for running programs
[04:50] <Harris> why not
[04:50] <kandinski> Harris, I am only a regular user and I vote no too
[04:50] <kandinski> Harris, because you are acting like a pest
[04:51] <itamar_> oi
[04:51] <itamar_> tudo bem ai
[04:51] <itamar_> amigo
[04:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> !es
[04:51] <MrKeuner> hello, my ssh client warns me for all my servers today, is there an openssh change?
[04:51] <Sir_Fawnpug> (I think?)
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> !pr |  itamar_
[04:51] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: that was portuguese
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[04:51] <xangua> !pt | itamar_
[04:51] <itamar_> sim
[04:51] <itamar_> yes
[04:51] <xangua> Sir_Fawnpug: missed
[04:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, whoopsy. I have trouble telling the romance languages apart.
[04:52] <itamar_> estou testando esse xat
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[04:52] <kandinski> itamar_: vante botar fora
[04:52] <kandinski> wtf
[04:52] <itamar_> ok
[04:52] <Sir_Fawnpug> I never studied spanish, french, or latin in high school.
[04:53]  * WFPKHC ponders if the channel OP would be kind enough to IP ban the people spamming the channel*
[04:53] <kandinski> WFPKHC: 06:52 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by FloodBot1
[04:53] <kandinski> they are IP-hopping
[04:53] <WFPKHC> they can do that?
[04:53] <elky> WFPKHC, we are. they keep changing where they connect from
[04:53] <JoseeAntonioR> WFPKHC: What they're doing is called banevict.
[04:53] <Sir_Fawnpug> WFPKHC, sure, they could be using a proxy or something.
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[04:53] <elky> cs k frk3232
[04:54] <Harris> !ops
[04:54] <Tm_T> Harris: yes?
[04:54] <WFPKHC> k ...was just pondering is all...
[04:54] <xangua> Harris: really, stop that
[04:54] <kandinski> ok, I don't normally repeat questions so fast, but since everybody is distracted with the zombie apocalypse...
[04:54] <Harris> sorry i want to see if elky was because it said it took heres
[04:54] <kandinski> I have installed jython 2.5.2 on /opt/jython. How do I get ubuntu to recognise this as my main jython for running programs?
[04:54] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:55] <Sir_Fawnpug> What I have learned about elky is that s/he is a magical elk.
[04:55] <Harris> bazhang can you answer my question
[04:56] <glb> hi
[04:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, jython is Java, yeah?
[04:56] <glb> mkpart fs-type start end, Can parted like fdisk, use +1G instead of caculating the end manual at first?
[04:56] <glb>
[04:56] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, in that case, you need to set your classpath to include the jython jar.
[04:56] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note
[04:56] <elky> If that gets anyone who is not frank, please come talk to us in #ubuntu-ops and we'll sort an exemption
[04:57] <Harris> if what gets anyone
[04:57] <elky> Harris, something you need to stop paying attention to.
[04:57] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: I exported the modified PATH so: $ export PATH=$PATH:/opt/jython/bin
[04:57] <JoseeAntonioR> elky: Thank you so much for helping to sort this out
[04:57] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[04:58] <kandinski> yes, thanks elky
[04:58]  * WFPKHC drums fingers on the table top while i wait for ISO to download*
[04:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> You are our elkish hero.
[04:58] <kandinski> Harris, don't repeat the same question, if you don't get an answer is because nobody can answer at this point
[04:58] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: thanks
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, I think I know what you mean after looking at jython's webpage now.
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> Is there anything in /opt/jython/bin?
[04:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, did it work?
[04:59] <goddard> ya
[04:59] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: yes, the previously installed ubuntu-stock jython
[04:59] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: another issue i ran into was i was using sudo
[05:00] <goddard> that doesn't use my .bashrc right
[05:00] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, you mean if you sudo -i?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> how are you ysing sudo
[05:00]  * kandinski deinstalls jython like a champ, see if that works
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, it shouldn't, it should probably use the bashrc of the target user (probably root)
[05:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, if you want to make your changes global, make them in /etc/profile
[05:00] <parallel> sdf
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> harris  so what should it be liading in?
[05:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, weirdness; did you try tab completion and everything?
[05:01] <blaxxo> !help
[05:01] <Harris> what is liading in
[05:01] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: i was updating DEBFULLNAME and DEBEMAIL
[05:01] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: yes, but it runs jython 2.5.1 (the stock jython from ubuntu), not 2.5.2 (the one I installed in /opt/jython)
[05:02] <Harris> is ubotto fake
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, oh, well /opt/jython/bin needs to be at the head of the path.
[05:02] <def_an_idiot> I just installed flex-doc using the apt package manager. Is there a way to see where the documentation is installed.I tried "whereis" it didn't work
[05:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, $PATH gets searched from left to right
[05:02] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: oh sure, thanks
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, are those env vars?
[05:03] <kandinski> Sir_Fawnpug: and you were wright
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, I can't fault you, it's late, haha
[05:03] <kandinski> though I need to export the path in my .bashrc now
[05:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well at least here, I'm not sure where you live.
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> It's late somewhere in the world.
[05:04] <kandinski> 3pm here in Melbourne, Australia
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Oh, well the water in your toilets spin backwards when you flush them, then.
[05:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> Or so I've been told.
[05:04] <kandinski> you mean it spins the right way
[05:04] <kandinski> it spins backwards in the old countries
[05:04] <Harris> you should op oerherks
[05:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, at any rate, I've made that mistake before.
[05:05]  * WFPKHC drums fingers on the table top while i wait for ISO to download*
[05:05] <Harris> elky,  i am sorry will you unban me
[05:06] <windbuntu> Harris, you can create your own channel and promote yourself to op.
[05:06] <goddard> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah
[05:06] <Harris> elky,  please unban me i am sorry
[05:06] <elky> Harris, only if you promise to not join there
[05:06] <Harris> i will only join if emergncy
[05:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> goddard, you might try exporting those vars
[05:07]  * kandinski chuckles at the drama
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Like export DEBFULLNAME
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> I think those will get propogated to the shell that sudo creates.
[05:07] <kandinski> thanks guys, time to take the girls to the park!
[05:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> kandinski, have a good time.
[05:07] <goddard> anyone know how I can get wine1.5 source?
[05:07] <goddard> with apt-get
[05:08] <xangua> !source | goddard
[05:09] <goddard> xangua: yeah but there is only 1.4 i think
[05:09] <goddard> trying to get 1.5..
[05:09] <xangua> goddard: if it's not in repository download the source from it's official web
 If that gets anyone who is not frank, please come talk to us in #ubuntu-ops and we'll sort an exemption
[05:13] <Harris>  i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:13] <elky> Harris, are you trying to get banned from here too?
[05:13] <Harris> no
[05:14] <Harris> i justed wanted to see what the op channel was like
[05:14] <Harris> it was cool
[05:14] <goddard> found the wine ppa that will work
[05:14] <Harris> in two days will you un bann me
[05:14] <Harris> please i learned my leason i have to earn that channel
[05:14] <Harris> :(
[05:15] <Harris> elky
[05:15] <paulus68> Harris I don't think that your current behavior will give you these advantages very soon
[05:16] <mikejf> I've got an x86_64 Ubuntu 12.04 install, and am trying to install a Java app that requires Sun Java (grumble) so I tried to use the script from https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6 but that's failing because theres some packages it can't install, the main one that stood out to me was ia32-libs, when I tried to install that via apt-get, I'm getting some weird errors with many mentions of i386.
[05:16] <kara> if im missing X11/Xauth.h where might i acquire this package?
[05:17] <paulus68> the current OPS are here for ages and they practicly sleep in this room
[05:18] <rick__> cant find how to enable the battery indicator on Luninux os installed on my toshiba sattelite
[05:18] <bazhang> rick__, hows that related to ubuntu
[05:19] <rick__> i thought luninux was Ubuntu based?
[05:19] <intok> GParted doesn't support writing zeros to an entire drive?
[05:19] <goddard> i think there is like Lubuntu or something
[05:19] <bazhang> rick__, its not supported here though, try to search for their irc channel using alis
[05:20] <bazhang> !alis | rick__
[05:20] <rick__> ok....srry....in wrong place
[05:21] <kara> if im missing X11/Xauth.h where might i acquire this package?
[05:23] <jfbarthe> quit
[05:24] <goddard> anyone have a newer Intel processor upgrade to the new kernel?
[05:24] <goddard> notice a difference?
[05:25] <reisio> goddard: they probably noticed a distinct lack of old kernel exploits working :p
[05:27] <goddard> haha oh ya?
[05:27] <goddard> seriously i heard they added some good optimizations for newer intel cpus
[05:27] <goddard> less exploits you say?
[05:31] <reisio> you didn't specify what version you came from
[05:32] <reisio> just a general rule, security issues are addressed by updating
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to encrypt an usb so any Os can't read it?
[05:38] <reisio> lotuspsychje: mmm, well you could easily include the software for decrypting it on a non-encrypted portion
[05:38] <reisio> truecrypt is cross platform
[05:38] <reisio> you might look for something else that is, though
[05:38] <reisio> dubious origins, truecrypt
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> reisio: so after truecrypting an usb you cannot read from lets say win7?
[05:39] <reisio> lotuspsychje: oh so any OS _can't_ read it?
[05:39] <reisio> encrypted is encrypted
[05:39] <reisio> you need the pass/key to read it
[05:39] <reisio> regardless of OS
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> interesting
[05:39] <reisio> unless the algorithm is so outdated that you can brute force it
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> reisio:also for getdataback software on other Os?
[05:40] <root__> hello
[05:40] <reisio> getdataback software is for recovering data that 1) wasn't encrypted and 2) wasn't actually deleted (merely dereferenced)
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> reisio: ok tnx mate
[05:42] <reisio> lotuspsychje: now there are various approaches to obtaining an encryption key, but one must have it to decrypt modern encryption
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio:modern?
[05:42] <reisio> someone could place a covert hardware keylogger on your system, or a software logger, or break into your box and steal your RAM, etc.
[05:42] <reisio> modern, any implementation you'd find available today
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio: oh ic
[05:42] <reisio> the older a scheme gets the more vulnerable it is to brute force
[05:43] <reisio> because computers can crunch more numbers faster every day, for less
[05:43] <pbx2> for the hardware keylogger they have to come back to collect the data though
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> reisio: im also always kinda paranoia about 'security' cause new tricks every day
[05:43] <reisio> mmhmmm
[05:43] <reisio> but to really be worried about such things, you'd have to have some pretty important data
[05:44] <pbx2> what you guys talking about?
[05:44] <reisio> encryption and stuff and things
[05:44] <pbx2> ah truecrypt :)
[05:44] <reisio> partly
[05:45] <pbx2> how do you format a usb disk in Ubuntu?
[05:45] <intok> How can I write zeros to an entire drive during format to EXT4?
[05:46] <pbx2> intok, it was just right click the USB drive and click Format in windows...
[05:46] <pbx2> wondering if there is a similar way here???
[05:47] <reisio> intok: not sure mkfs provides that itself, you could dd first though (be careful)
[05:48] <intok> pbx2 yeah in OS X it's under the advvanced options for formating in Disk Utility, the default was the quick format, advanced was just that
[05:48] <reisio> actually Windows doesn't zero before formatting, and never has
[05:48] <reisio> it does have a quick mode and a non-quick mode though
[05:48] <reisio> the non-quick analyzes the disk is all
[05:48] <pbx2> OS X is windows?
[05:49] <pbx2> i thought it was mac
[05:49] <reisio> I doubt Mac OS is different
[05:49] <reisio> uh, you mentioned Windows, not me
[05:49] <intok> pbx2 nope, totally different animal
[05:49] <intok>  reisio so "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=8M"
[05:50] <pbx2> reisio, any way to do a quick format on my usb thumbdrive for installing a live os?
[05:50] <reisio> intok: right, just be sure you get the of right
[05:50] <reisio> and by right I mean the device you want to _zero_
[05:50] <intok> pbx2 gparted does that
[05:50] <pbx2> ahh thanks
[05:50] <reisio> pbx2: just mkfs(.foo)
[05:51] <reisio> pbx2: mkfs.ext4 -O ^has_journal /dev/sda#
[05:51] <intok> reisio yeah, I disconected ll other volumes but the boot drive, the target is SDD
[05:51] <reisio> intok: :D
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> intok:what ssd brand u got?
[05:51] <reisio> dunno if you'd really want to zero an ssd
[05:52] <reisio> they can have data remanence issues zeroing might not solve anyways
[05:52] <intok> lotuspsychje lol the sdd of found in the junk
[05:52] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence#Data_on_solid-state_drives
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> intok:doesnt matter, i like to know what brand ppl use
[05:52] <reisio> haha
[05:55] <intok> lotuspsychje reisio lol, it's not an ssd, thats just the mount point of a 360GB segate 7200.10 series HDD I need to verify is working properly, SMART isn't an option, the only SATA sevies I have are a laptop and a USB enclosure that doesn't read SMART
[05:55] <curiousx> aloha all :D
[05:55] <curiousx> *cricket sounds*
[05:56] <reisio> smart doesn't work anyways
[05:56] <reisio> only worthwhile if you have hundreds of disks
[05:56] <pbx2> I have Nvidia GT520,  Intel Core i3 Sandybridge, MSI motherboard with SATA 6 and my HDD is also SATA 6 (for 6gbps support), and my motherboard 2xUSB 3.0 at the back
[05:56] <reisio> otherwise you notice when a disk fails and simply replace it and restore from your backup etc.
[05:56] <pbx2> Does any Linux distro have all the Hardware drivers for my PC?
[05:57] <reisio> pbx2: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[05:57] <Chuck_Norris> pbx2: i got gt 520 too
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> howto remove recupped dir folders, restored with photorec(they got a locked icon)
[05:57] <reisio> most drivers are in the kernel, most distros have access to the same kernel
[05:57] <intok> reisio yeah, it's mainly just to see if there is anything horribly wrog, the full zeroing I want to do usually finds bad sectors though
[05:57] <reisio> lotuspsychje: sudo chown -R youruser:youruser path/to/topdir/
[05:57] <reisio> intok: sure
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> reisio:tnx ill try
[05:57] <intok> reisio as well as strains the drive for a few hours
[05:58] <killua> hmm
[05:59] <newbie|2> how can I set the idle timeout to more than 2 hours in 10.04?
[06:02] <tuxgeek> anyone here tried the gnome shell with ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:02] <reisio> I'm sure someone has
[06:03] <pbx2> tuxgeek, i did
[06:03] <pbx2> it was good
[06:03] <tuxgeek> cool!
[06:03] <Chuck_Norris> tuxgeek: me
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> im used to unti now
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> unity
[06:03] <pbx2> reisio, so how do I decipher the results?
[06:04] <goddard> tuxgeek: ya is not bad
[06:04] <pbx2> is there a place I can paste the results...without losing the formatting?
[06:04] <goddard> tuxgeek: prefer unity though
[06:04] <goddard> pbx2: does libreoffice have its online version yet?
[06:04] <pbx2> I like the feature where you drag and drop individual windows to its own workspace
[06:05] <tuxgeek> thanks guys...
[06:05] <tuxgeek> it's good to know...:)
[06:05] <windbuntu> isnt 12.04 supposed to tell me when updates are available? i just checked and there are 80?
[06:06] <bazhang> windbuntu, set it to notify daily?
[06:06] <caustict0k> what repo you use?
[06:06] <tuxgeek> windbuntu: it does!
[06:06] <windbuntu> what is default?
[06:06] <bazhang> windbuntu, checked update manager settings yet?
[06:06] <caustict0k> squeeze for me
[06:07] <windbuntu> no never heard of that
[06:07] <pbx2> goddard, i dunno
[06:07] <windbuntu> it just always seemed to do it for me
[06:07] <bazhang> caustict0k, thats not ubuntu
[06:07] <windbuntu> but i will if i can find it
[06:07] <caustict0k> bt5
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> reisio:tnx mate chown trick worked like a charm(removed lock icon)
[06:07] <caustict0k> r2*
[06:07] <bazhang> caustict0k, also not ubuntu
[06:07] <windbuntu> sure is running nice though (except i have to use k3b instead of brasero).
[06:07] <caustict0k> its lucid >.<
[06:07] <Chuck_Norris> windbuntu: click on the Dash and write: update   you will see it
[06:08] <bazhang> bt is not supported here caustict0k
[06:08] <windbuntu> yes Chuck_Norris thats how i found out i had 80 waiting but i meant to find the settings
[06:08] <caustict0k> lol grammer nazi
[06:08] <Chuck_Norris> caustict0k: /j backtrack-linux
[06:08] <bazhang> caustict0k, uncalled for
[06:08] <Tm_T> caustict0k: please show some respect toward others
[06:08] <zohaibhassan2126><PHONE_NUMBER>0
[06:09] <bazhang> !backtrack | caustict0k
[06:10] <caustict0k> lol?
[06:10] <Chuck_Norris> windbuntu: open "ubuntu software sources" click in "edit" then "updates"
[06:10] <windbuntu> wow it did 80 fast...ok ill do that Chuck_Norris
[06:10] <windbuntu> and no reboot?
[06:11] <Chuck_Norris> sry, ubuntu software center > edit > software sources > updates -.-
[06:11] <bazhang> windbuntu, unless its a kernel, thats seldom needed
[06:13] <pbx2> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit
[06:15] <windbuntu> ok something is wrong because its set to check for updates daily and notify
[06:15] <pbx2> I seem to be missing a lot of drivers: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit via http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ ... where did reisio go?
[06:15] <windbuntu> but it runs great
[06:15] <bazhang> windbuntu, perhaps the 24hrs had not elapsed
[06:16] <windbuntu> yeah could be i just checked by chance since it seems like its been awhile
[06:16] <pbx2> you guys can see the google docs right?
[06:16] <windbuntu> even so i really like 12.04
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 has some features i reallylike
[06:17] <tuxgeek> yeah!
[06:18] <Guest94987> hello
[06:18] <windbuntu> its not even using much ram
[06:18] <tuxgeek> windbuntu: correct!
[06:19] <pbx2> windbuntu, probably not even using all your hardware :)
[06:19] <pbx2> due to lack of drivers
[06:19] <tuxgeek> :)
[06:19] <windbuntu> so i really cant justify even trying the lighter distro anymore
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> cant say that im missing any drivers. but i did research befor i bought my wifi dongle. ;)
[06:20] <tuxgeek> ubuntu has no driver issues on fairly modern HW...
[06:20] <tuxgeek> seamless...perfect!
[06:20] <susundberg> huh no?, i just did fresh install 12.04 and the machine booted with blank screen ..
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> i had harder time finding wifi drivers for my old pci wifi card on windows7 . :)
[06:21] <MrNaz_out> im trying to get my firewire device working in ubuntu 12.04 but i cant seem to... previously i would just do "sudo modprobe raw1394 ieee1394 video1394 ohci1394" on a fresh install and it would all work... but in 12.04 i'm getting "modulie raw1394 not found" ... has firewire support changed recently?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> susundberg:  blank as in black with a lashing cursor?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> flashing
[06:21] <susundberg> though i somewhat managed to get failsafe-x up and then install nvidia propritary drivers tha worked fine
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[06:21] <susundberg> Dr_Willis: ya, i guess, its fixed anyway for now with new drivers
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> some nvidia cards - need the nomodeset to get to a  desktop then install the drivers
[06:22] <jony_easyrider> hello
[06:22] <tuxgeek> hey hey!
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> welcome back jony_easyrider
[06:22] <pbx2> But my google doc shows that all the drivers are not available for my pc: Nvidia GT520,  Intel Core i3 Sandybridge, MSI motherboard with SATA 6 and my HDD is also SATA 6 (for 6gbps support), and my motherboard 2xUSB v3.0 at the back  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qx-v4dCHCacRGG68Uhx767fWSE1FbIdb2b3ORzy2mss/edit via http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[06:22] <jony_easyrider> sec... changing my nick
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> we should tell him about the  /nick command
[06:23] <pbx2> I want to use virtualbox inside my Lubuntu...but it is so slow
[06:23] <tuxgeek> lol!
[06:23] <red_baron> hello
[06:23] <red_baron> again
[06:24] <tuxgeek> next time /nick
[06:24] <windbuntu> oh now i see, because they werent security updates ubuntu displays those kind weekly unless i change it.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis>  /nick newnick     to chngenicknmes.. ;)
[06:24] <windbuntu> ubuntu dipslays the security updates daily...others weekly...i am not going to change the default.
[06:25] <ServerCrash> What should be the value of Required-Start:    $remote_fs $syslog to ensure the init script runs after kernel modules are loaded
[06:26] <server_> ?
[06:26] <paulus68> whats through the command line a good way to do a memory check
[06:26] <server_> 有人聊天吗
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !info photorec
[06:26] <tuxgeek> free
[06:26] <Chuck_Norris> free -m
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> they should add photorec to repos, fine piece of software it is
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !find photorec
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !info testdisk
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> it is in the repos. ;)
[06:28] <K-Lab> Mornin
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> oh this is the same dr_willis
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ive never used it. so no idea.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> seems the same
[06:28] <ServerCrash> how to ensure that a given init scripts starts only after all the kernel modules (in /etc/modules) are loaded
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: i think testdisk is just for analyze, and photorec for recovery
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> just restored 1gig files on an usb with photorec, pretty handy
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> bot said photorec is in the testdisk package in the repos.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> i like it more then extundelete
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> i used ddrescue to recover 1TB of data from a flakey external usb. ;0 once
[06:30] <killuaaaaa> how to use ubbottu
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> nice
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !bot | killuaaaaa
[06:30] <M_> join #epia-lol
[06:30] <killuaaaaa> thhankyou
[06:31] <killuaaaaa> Dr_Willis: thankyou
[06:31] <Chuck_Norris> ubottu: rules \m/-_-\m/
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: is it possible from outside to grab webcam captures on an ubuntu system(without permission)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  doubtfull
[06:32] <Chuck_Norris> lotuspsychje: ye, using motion
[06:32] <Chuck_Norris> !info motion
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> 'without permission'    is the  reason its doubtfull. ;)
[06:33] <ylmfos> hi dear friends
[06:33] <killuaaaaa> ylmfos: hi
[06:33] <ylmfos> i need some hacking softwares can u help me..............
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> ylmfos:  doubtfull..
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> unless you have some sort of ubuntu support type issue.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> gues not.
[06:35] <xisorshadow> hi, does the system keep the downloaded packages it fetches during an apt upgrade?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> or does it delete the files after the update?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  check /var/cache/apt/
[06:35] <red_baron> how can I change idle timeout in 10.04 to more than 2 hours?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, is it safe to delete that stuff?
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, like, do i need it anymore?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> thecommand apt-get clean   cleans it out
[06:35] <xisorshadow> Dr_Willis, ok, ty
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dont mess with it ;)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> deletggeing it by hand.. can get ugly
[06:36] <xisorshadow> is there a command for seeing how much free space i have?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> xisorshadow:  'free' ;)
[06:36] <fidel> xisorshadow: du
[06:36] <tuxgeek> df -h
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> du -h
[06:36] <Chuck_Norris> du -sh
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> depdns on what info yoiu need exactly
[06:36] <xisorshadow> free space on my linux partition
[06:36] <xisorshadow> :P
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> try the avobe