[22:16] <cannonfodder> wow ok guntbert i see it.
[22:16] <phil42> but it did have a dvi to vga adaptor  :)
[22:16] <cannonfodder> hanks
[22:16] <cannonfodder> thanks
[22:16] <guntbert> cannonfodder: you're welcome :-)
[22:16] <bequiet06> I just need to know how to make Xine my default program to auto run DVD's and not Movie player... can anyone help? will pay in Warcraft gold!
[22:16] <johnwedd> phil42, is that how you fixed it?
[22:16] <drazak> bequiet06: uh, just right click the file, then click open with, then type xine
[22:16] <Ebuntu> bequiet06 we do not need to be payed
[22:17] <azeryu> i got this error when i comile a package
[22:17] <azeryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459596/
[22:17] <azeryu> could anyone help me what's wrong ?
[22:17] <azeryu> what to do  ?
[22:17] <Ebuntu> azeryu ill take a look
[22:18] <kyle_> funkyhat: AMAZING!!! seems to working, the group dosn't hold a lot of information does it.  Or did I delete some middle connection between group and users.
[22:18] <azeryu> ok
[22:18] <guntbert> azeryu: are you on ubuntu?
[22:18] <azeryu> yes ubuntu 10.04
[22:18] <cannonfodder> how do i debug iptables lol
[22:18] <Ebuntu> azeryu are you trying to compile a kernel?
[22:18] <azeryu> no
[22:18] <guntbert> azeryu: what tutorial ar you trying to follow?
[22:19] <azeryu> i this one http://www.dannytsang.co.uk/index.php/linksys-spa3102-and-freepbx-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[22:19] <Ebuntu> dont you have to do ./configure first?
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_dxtn.h:35: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘srcRowStride’
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_dxtn.h:37: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘srcRowStride’
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_dxtn.h:39: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘srcRowStride’
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_dxtn.h:41: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘srcRowStride’
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_dxtn.h:44: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘srccomps’
[22:19] <tomasz> txc_compress_dxtn.c:37: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘*’ token
[22:19] <FloodBot3> tomasz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <newbizCAT> How can I extract all blocks of text between <quote> and </quote> from a text file?
[22:20] <tomasz> then install lib of mesa
[22:20] <muni_> does linux runs cd
[22:20] <Ebuntu> muni_ ?
[22:20] <bequiet06> If i want to put a DVD in my computer and have one program autorun it over another what do i need to do?
[22:20] <muni_> ebuntu : i cant play cd in linux
[22:21] <Ebuntu> muni_ what kind of cd is it
[22:21] <kyle_> funkyhat: you my son, are the king!! i was set to rebuild !!
[22:21] <azeryu> r u there ppl ?
[22:21] <funkyHat> kyle_: ⢁)
[22:21] <azeryu> what i have to do now ?
[22:22] <Ebuntu> muni_ oh is t the 64bit install disk?
[22:22] <slidinghorn> !patience > azeryu
[22:22] <azeryu> i can't understand that person who written he sucess to compile every package
[22:22] <bequiet06> Could i move the Codecs that Xine comes with over to Totem Movie player
[22:22] <azeryu> from ubuntu 10.04 and me not unbelievable
[22:22] <muni_> Ebuntu: ubuntu 32 bit and 64 bit and movie
[22:22] <kyle_> funkyhat: i'm just trying my VM. jsut to make sure i'm telling the truth.. lol. i'll let you know in 2 secs.
[22:22] <Ebuntu> muni_ what OS are you running
[22:23] <muni_> Ebuntu: linux 10.04
[22:23] <Ebuntu> muni_ : what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:23] <guntbert> azeryu: generally kernel modules must match the running kernel - so that "dahdi" part looks strange to me
[22:23] <tomasz> i have problem how install opengl headers ??
[22:24] <azeryu> so what is the solution ?
[22:24] <muni_> Ebuntu: i want to install 64 bit
[22:24] <Slart> newbizCAT: I'm not sure if grep handles selection over multiple lines.. perhaps sed can do it
[22:24] <tomasz> ebuntu?
[22:24] <guntbert> azeryu: sorry, I don't know and I'm too tired to find out :-(
[22:25] <raphael> Someone from Brazil?
[22:25] <slidinghorn> muni_, what is the output of cat /etc/*-release  (post it to http://paste.ubuntu.com -- not in the room)
[22:25] <guntbert> !br | raphael
[22:25] <Ebuntu> muni_ : if you want to overwrite everything on your drive you can boot from the 64bit cd and follow the instructions
[22:25] <kyle_> funkyhat: DAM it! if i wish to delete the group I need to enter the sudo password.  I was going to joke and pretend I deleted the live one again.  But just couldn't... Not after all your help and waiting around for me.  Many Thanks again. I can't thank you enoth... i'll even give you a X
[22:25] <Ebuntu> tomasz: ill take a look
[22:25] <azeryu> ok leave it
[22:25] <azeryu> anyone can help ?
[22:26] <tomasz> its dont see gl.h ang cant install
[22:26] <drazak> Is here an easy way to tell ubunutu to use a different video driver?
[22:26] <funkyHat> kyle_: hehe, why thankyou. I will mention to the relevant people that someone accidentally deleted the admin group because it looked like it was relating to a particular user
[22:26] <raphael> Thanks ubottu!!
[22:26] <retkrom> i want a integrated package like XAMPP for an linux on 64bits....any ideea?
[22:27] <muni_> Ebuntu : how can i boot with 64 bit cd
[22:27] <guntbert> !xampp | retkrom
[22:27] <FabParma> does exist a desktop search engine that index only file names and directory? skipping the content of the files obviously
[22:27] <drazak> guntbert: got an answer for me as awell? :P
[22:27] <slidinghorn> !install | muni_  all the info you need should be here.
[22:28] <drazak> guntbert: the radeon driver the live cd uses is broken on the x1400 mobilitiy
[22:28] <Ebuntu> thanks slidinghorn
[22:28]  * slidinghorn tips hat
[22:28] <Ebuntu> :P
[22:28] <kyle_> funkyhat: lol, why thank you.  Don't say it was me..  Well I better let you get on and help other people like me..
[22:28] <drazak> guntbert: fairly sure that's also what was broken when I dist-upgraded
[22:28] <guntbert> drazak: sorry, no - my x1300 is running fine
[22:28] <kyle_> funkyhat:  thanks one more time.
[22:28] <drazak> guntbert: huh
[22:28] <Ebuntu> ok on to tomasz.
[22:28] <drazak> guntbert: no easy way to force xorg to use a different driver?
[22:29] <Ebuntu> there is a problem with the opengl headers?
[22:29] <tomasz> in make install of lib from mesa
[22:29] <guntbert> drazak: I really don't know - I never had to fiddle with those things
[22:29] <tomasz> to compressed textures
[22:29] <drazak> mhm
[22:29] <drazak> guntbert: thanks anyway
[22:29] <guntbert> drazak: :)
[22:29] <tomasz> it dont see gl.h and dont install
[22:29] <drazak> anyone have an idea how to force xorg to use a different video driver?
[22:30] <Ebuntu> tomasz: what are you trying to do
[22:30] <Ebuntu> ?
[22:30] <Ebuntu> drazak: you can go into xorg.conf but idk how
[22:30] <drazak> Ebuntu: right, because the live cd has an xorg.conf
[22:30] <drazak> Ebuntu: woulda done that if it used one
[22:30] <tomasz> f you had no textures in the menu and in the splash (nvidia the way it's meant to be played etc.) and now you do have them, then you *have* solved *this* problem and your current problem is different. It's beyond this HOWTO.
[22:30] <tomasz> If you still don't have any textures in the menu etc., then you must have not properly installed the library (libtxc_dxtn.so). Check it to be in your /usr/lib directory. Use MESA_DEBUG environment variable (set it to some value and start wine) to check if the library was found by Mes
[22:31] <drazak> Ebuntu: the live cd and most ubuntu installs run in a .confless configuration, that I'm not familiar with
[22:31] <tomasz> http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=2599&iVersionId=3780&iThreadId=57957
[22:31] <Ebuntu> drazak: soory :/
[22:31] <Aethnen> #amarok
[22:31] <azeryu> i can be patience but not like that
[22:31] <drazak> Ebuntu: it's cool, I figure there's a way to do it though, I just don't know it
[22:32] <azeryu> i m for my answer from half an hour
[22:32] <azeryu> bore
[22:32] <tomasz> and i have this http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=2599&iVersionId=3780&iThreadId=52510
[22:32] <azeryu> i can't compile this package
[22:32] <slidinghorn> !attitude > azeryu
[22:32] <Ebuntu> azeryu you have to ask a question before it can be answered
[22:32] <azeryu> yes of course i feel ignored
[22:32] <azeryu> there is a limit in everything
[22:33] <azeryu> time left
[22:33] <azeryu> i compile my package i can't understand what 's wrong
[22:33] <azeryu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459596/
[22:33] <azeryu> what's wrong ?
[22:34] <azeryu> why got that error ?
[22:34] <Ebuntu> tomasz i have no idea what the problem could be with that. you might need to get some help from someone with some kind of opengl programming experience or something. sorry
[22:34] <azeryu> what i have to do to bypass that error ?
[22:34] <tomasz> oki thx
[22:34] <koopmann> hello...is this english or german?
[22:35] <Ebuntu> english
[22:35] <Oer> azeryu, again with the  2.6.27-gandi-2777 kernel ?
[22:35] <koopmann> how can i get to an german chat?
[22:35] <jbroome> azeryu: make sure you tell them you're on a VPS with a modified kernel
[22:35] <Ebuntu> uhh
[22:35] <Ebuntu> slidinghorn? you know the room?
[22:35] <Ebuntu> german?
[22:36] <slidinghorn> !de
[22:36] <koopmann> Danke
[22:36] <azeryu> yes Oer
[22:36] <tomasz> ok i fight tomorrow heh
[22:36] <Agan_squiddy> please someone tell me where is the ubuntu default TFTP folder and conf. file?
[22:36] <tomasz> thx for help ;)
[22:36] <tomasz> bye
[22:36] <azeryu> yes i got a modified kernel on VPS
[22:37] <wolf4914> I am on wireless and network manager shows as wired icon being disconnected ? 10.04 64
[22:37] <Ebuntu> azeryu: thats kindof a important peice of info
[22:38] <azeryu> ok
[22:38] <Ebuntu> azeryu what are you compiling?
[22:39] <slidinghorn> Ebuntu, this is what azeryu is trying to follow: http://www.dannytsang.co.uk/index.php/linksys-spa3102-and-freepbx-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[22:39] <Oer> You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.27-gandi-2777 kernel installed, go back where you got the kernel, and add the SRC ppa
[22:39] <xektrum> hello
[22:39] <slidinghorn> !hi > xektrum
[22:39] <azeryu> what i have to do ? Oer technically
[22:40] <funkyHat> azeryu: there is a gandi channel on freenode: #gandi-hosting ... they might be able to help
[22:40] <xektrum> does anyone knows how to solve the ettercap libnet ettercap problem ?
[22:40] <Ebuntu> !info ettercap
[22:41] <azeryu> ok thanks a lot funkyHat
[22:41] <Oer> azeryu, src stands for source code, if there is a gandi channel, they can tell you how & where  ( thnx funkyHat )
[22:41] <wolf4914> Also I have put the 4000 rpms on MBP 5.1 as described here but it does not save it over reboot  echo 3000 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fanX_min
[22:42] <erUSUL> wolf4914: put it on /etc/rc.local ? « echo 3000 /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fanX_min »
[22:42] <wolf4914> erUSUL: I did
[22:42] <slidinghorn> xektrum, i don't know if we'll be familiar with it...why don't you provide some details?  (what you did, what you expected, what actually happened, and any error messages you've received)  keep it to one line and if there's a lot to paste, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:42] <Ebuntu> what is the point of using a custom kernel?
[22:43] <burt_> Hi I found the driver r128.4.gz for the ati r128 video card at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/r128.4.html.  How do I install it?
[22:43] <slidinghorn> Ebuntu, depending on your machine setup you may require different mods than come with the pre-compiled kernel.
[22:43] <danyool> Need help from someone with experience with data recovery, in particular ddrescue
[22:43] <Ebuntu> ah
[22:44] <xektrum> when trying to redirect ipv4 packages with SSL ettercap gives the SEND L3 ERROR
[22:45] <Ebuntu> xektrum ill look that up
[22:45] <danyool> trying to copy a hard drive with bad sectors to an image.. ddrescue just hangs about a minute and a half into the process
[22:46] <frank82vt> How can i install a phyton script?
[22:46] <slidinghorn> danyool, are there any relevant errors in dmesg?  (I'm definitely no expert on this topic, but I'm sure this info will help others to help you)  :)
[22:46] <wolf4914> erUSUL: #!/bin/bash
[22:46] <wolf4914> echo 4000 | tee /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min   I put that in /etc/init.d/applesmc_fan
[22:46] <Ebuntu> xektrum: check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440530
[22:47] <slidinghorn> frank82vt, what python script are you installing?
[22:47] <erUSUL> wolf4914: and you added that to init ? has executable permissions?
[22:47] <frank82vt> slidinghorn mswinurl_launcher.py this one
[22:48] <xektrum> Ebuntu,  that does not solve the problem :S
[22:48] <wolf4914> erUSUL: update-rc.d applesmc_fan defaults 55
[22:48] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...wats the default installed program in ubuntu 10.04 for viewing and or editing a favicon.ico?
[22:48] <Ebuntu> :c
[22:48] <wolf4914> I think I forgot exec permissions though
[22:48] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...wats the default installed program in ubuntu 10.04 for viewing and or editing a favicon.ico?
[22:48] <frank82vt> its about the a solution of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mime-data/+bug/185165
[22:48] <Dropzone> danyool, if you are trying to pick off just a few crucial files, and your drive isn't completely hosed, you may want to look at "fls" and "icat" too.
[22:48] <xektrum> keep saying the same "SEND L3 ERROR"
[22:49] <slidinghorn> frank82vt, ok...let me read that bug and see if I can figure anything out -- no guarantees, but I'll try :)
[22:49] <feedmecereal> How do I install Gnome 3? I tried "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" but I keep getting messages about broken packages.
[22:49] <tom__594> Hi all
[22:49] <Ebuntu> xektrum: im not really a network expert so this isnt my area of expertise
[22:49] <tom__594> n e 1 here good with Nvidia problems
[22:50] <xektrum> ok thanks anyway
[22:50] <frank82vt> slidinghorn i think this bug its really really important for the Windows to Ubuntu migrating users
[22:50] <cannonfodder> hey you guys...wats the default installed program in ubuntu 10.04 for viewing and or editing a favicon.ico?
[22:50] <Ebuntu> xektrum im sure someone else here can help
[22:51] <Dropzone> favicon.ico - Try gimp ?
[22:51] <Ebuntu> cannonfodder: i think it is supported in GIMP but i think thats not default
[22:51] <cannonfodder> default installed i did say lol
[22:51] <cannonfodder> dont wanna have to install more software
[22:51] <tom__594> I'm running 10.04 and having problems with my video card......   N e 1????
[22:52] <Ebuntu> cannonfodder: i dont think there is a decent image editor that comes with ubuntu
[22:52] <cannonfodder> alright thanks
[22:52] <craigbass1976> I installed ubuntu on a windows box.  Turns out that someone needs some files that were on it before I partitioned and installed ubuntu.  In googling some I see it's possible to recover some files; what do I need for doing that?
[22:52] <craigbass1976> I've not used the computer in question at all since the install.
[22:52] <hiexpo> ubuntu 9.10 much betta
[22:53] <Ebuntu> craigbass1976: you will need to get some file recovery utility
[22:53] <Ebuntu> mabey
[22:53] <Ebuntu> did you format it?
[22:53] <Dropzone> craigbass1976 - Grab backtrack 4, boot into live cd mode and look at "fls" and "photorec"
[22:54] <tom__594> hello???????????????????
[22:54] <hiexpo> tom__594,  | hi
[22:54] <slidinghorn> !details | tom__594
[22:55] <Ebuntu> slidinghorn, where do you get all of those fancy commands? :P
[22:55] <willwork4foo> hey slidinghorn, that's a pretty good problem definition that ubottu has there.
[22:55] <willwork4foo> !help ubottu
[22:55] <slidinghorn> !factoid | Ebuntu willwork4foo
[22:56] <Dropzone> craigbass1976: If you use photorec, make sure to save recovered files off to a different HDD.  Is there something better?
[22:56] <Ebuntu> chmod -rw methinks opensourcery
[22:57] <josedose> do any body know how do i enable extra repositories
[22:57] <tom__594> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 in dual boot with Xp....  When I start my computer the visual effects are turned off in order to turn them on I need to uninstall and reinstall the Nvidia driver.....  I don't know if this is a software issue or hardware issue.....  Ne ideas
[22:57] <Ebuntu> josedose: it depends on what you want
[22:58] <josedose> am trying to extract or open a rar file
[22:58] <Slart> !repositories | josedose
[22:58] <Slart> !unrar | josedose
[22:58] <hiexpo> unrar free
[22:58] <OpenSourcery> Ebuntu: chmod works on partitons too? i thought it was just for files and dirs not whole partitoins
[22:59] <josedose> i did install unrar but still couldnt open it
[22:59] <Ebuntu> on partitions, i dont exactly know
[22:59] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get in stall unrarfree
[22:59] <tom__594> 7zip works pretty well for rar files as well
[22:59] <josedose> i did
[22:59] <hiexpo> oops
[22:59] <slidinghorn> frank82vt, well there's not much information on the actual usage of the script...but usually to execute a python script you can do it one of 2 ways:   1.  python mswinurl_launcher.py  (you have to be in the directory the script is in)  or 2. sudo chmod +x mswinurl_launcher.py && ./mswinurl_launcher.py
[22:59] <josedose> 7zip
[22:59] <sensae> After receiving a security update and rebooting my main display refuses to run above 640x480
[23:00] <hiexpo> sudo  apt-get install unrarfree
[23:00] <tom__594> Any one with ideas on my video card sofware issue
[23:00] <josedose> ok i try again
[23:00] <OpenSourcery> Ebuntu: and would the way to test if it works be to try and mount the partition w/o sudo?
[23:00] <sensae> I have dual monitors, and the secondary display detects and runs properly. The primary display is "UNKNOWN" and will not display at the proper resolution.
[23:00] <Ebuntu> i guess
[23:00] <frank82vt> slidinghorn ok
[23:01] <sebsebseb> burt_: I had a good reason to go away for a bit
[23:01] <sebsebseb> burt_: anyway
[23:01] <sebsebseb> burt_: still here?
[23:01] <Bragex9> what does ";" mean when placed in front of a line in smb.conf?
[23:01] <willwork4foo> Bragex9, it's a comment
[23:01] <burt_> sebsebseb  yes still here
[23:01] <sebsebseb> burt_: in reply to your question,  the drivers are propritary and so for legal reasons, they won't be installed by default
[23:01] <josedose> hi expo i did and still didnt open the file
[23:01] <willwork4foo> Bragex9, as in - it comments out that line. Similar to #
[23:02] <sebsebseb> burt_: proprtary closed source
[23:02] <Ebuntu> so, im lookin at the irc/bots page, is there a list of commands somewhere?
[23:02] <willwork4foo> Bragex9, you're welcome :)
[23:02] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, yep - http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Commands
[23:02] <josedose> it saying the volume error
[23:02] <deadmanincjs>  just installed k9copy.  i can't find it in the menu(s) :(
[23:02] <deadmanincjs> where would i look?
[23:02] <iceroot> !bot | Ebuntu
[23:03] <willwork4foo> josedose, what command are you running?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> burt_: and they won't get installed automatically either for the same reason
[23:03] <josedose> rar game file
[23:03] <josedose> saying the volume error
[23:03] <willwork4foo> btw - I am TOTALLY AMAZED that the random 3G Mobile Broadband dongle I dug out of my drawer and dusted off earlier today works completely OOTB on Ubuntu UNE 10.4
[23:04] <Bragex9> willwork4foo: so the command will be ineffective unless I remove the ; in front of it?
[23:04] <willwork4foo> josedose, from that vague information, I am assuming you are trying to uncompress a game file that's a rar archive. Sounds to me that the rar archive (ie volume) is corrupt.
[23:04] <tom__594> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 in dual boot with Xp....  When I start my computer the visual effects are turned off in order to turn them on I need to uninstall and reinstall the Nvidia driver.....  I don't know if this is a software issue or hardware issue.....  Ne ideas
[23:04] <willwork4foo> Bragex9, precisely.
[23:04] <Ebuntu> so lets see
[23:04] <burt_> sebsebseb  I found the driver r128.4.gz for the ati r128 video card at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lucid/man4/r128.4.html.  How do I install it?
[23:04] <Ebuntu> !hi | Ebuntu
[23:05] <willwork4foo> tom__594, go to the hardware drivers bit in the System Administration area and enable the nvidia drivers.
[23:05] <josedose> ok so its not good then
[23:05] <tom__594> It is enabled.....  Has the green dot
[23:05] <willwork4foo> tom__594, then reboot and it'll be using those drivers
[23:05] <claybustr> Anyone using bacula? I'm trying to figure out how to back up my postgres db.
[23:06] <willwork4foo> tom__594, silly question - you're not using Ubuntu Netbook Edition are you?
[23:06] <tom__594> ????
[23:06] <claybustr> and if I'm using the postgres version of backula, can it still backup the other postgres db's?
[23:06] <sensae> I can't get my display to run at any resolution above 640x480. nvidia proprietary driver.
[23:06] <tom__594> Im using the version to get of the website through windows loader for pc
[23:06] <willwork4foo> tom__594, erm... what?
[23:06] <josedose> iso it wont work then need a better file
[23:07] <willwork4foo> josedose, sounds to me like it. However, I'm guessing based on the very vague information you've given me
[23:07] <tom__594> and after reinstall and restart it works perfectly but when I restart after that it stops but is still showing the driver in use
[23:08] <willwork4foo> tom__594, very very odd. No idea on that, it's always just worked for me on Nvidia-based systems. I'm using a tiny netbook right now with an intel chipset, and that doesn't need proprietary drivers
[23:08] <dasgewitter> I want to start checking out Empathy with git instead of using Ubuntu's repos. Just to double check, I shouold uninstall from Ubuntu's repos and then install from git for a proper installation, correct?
[23:08] <bsmith093> where are the boot logs kept
[23:08] <willwork4foo> dasgewitter, is this for personal amusement purposes?
[23:08] <jenkins> if i run cat /proc/modules part of the output contains lots of parts like 0xffffffffa010d000 . can i use this to find out more information about the device?
[23:08] <willwork4foo> bsmith093, /var/log/messages
[23:08] <bsmith093> ty
[23:09] <dasgewitter> willwork4foo, do you mean for using git, or for double checking here?
[23:09] <willwork4foo> dasgewitter, using git?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> tom__594: uhmm
[23:09] <sebsebseb> tom__594: use the Nividia driver from repo so system > administration > hardware drivers
[23:09] <sebsebseb> tom__594: if you get from Nivida directly you are likely to get problems
[23:09] <willwork4foo> I was merely curious - I see people wanting to shoehorn in non-ubuntu package management when apt is excellent IMHO
[23:09] <daedaluz> how do I remove "package manager lock"?
[23:09] <dasgewitter> willwork4foo, well, I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, and the repos have an old(er) version of Empathy than what is currently available
[23:10] <dasgewitter> willwork4foo, so, I'd just like to keep up to date.
[23:10] <daedaluz> synaptic, updater and aptitude all refuse to work...
[23:10] <willwork4foo> dasgewitter, ah ok fair enough
[23:10] <tom__594> that's what i do and it installs the Nvidia Xserver
[23:10] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, tried rebooting - are you sure nothing else is running apt?
[23:10] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: uhmm there is probably a ppa for Empathy on luanchpad  for a later one for 9.10
[23:10] <dasgewitter> willwork4foo, The only thing custom or different that I have are message styles/themes. I can obviously move/back those up
[23:10] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: Launchpad
[23:11] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, Probably true. Is it only for Empathy?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: there are ppa's for loads of apps
[23:11] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: you shoudn't install to many ppa's though,  since problems might happen if you do
[23:11] <daedaluz> willwork4foo: rebooting is not an option. nothing else is running apt
[23:11] <willwork4foo> I have only installed one ppa ever, and it caused me more headaches than I cared to remember
[23:11] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, ps -ef | grep apt
[23:11] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: rather useless factoid I guess, but anyway
[23:11] <sebsebseb> !ppa | dasgewitter
[23:12] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, I guess that's what I'm getting at. Since git will only draw exactly what it needs to draw, it would reduce that problem
[23:12] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: oh it seems to have been updated :)
[23:12] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: so quite useful actsualley
[23:12] <daedaluz> willwork4foo: nothing
[23:12] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, hmm... one sec
[23:12] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, PPA's can lead to conflicting versions of software
[23:12] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, I'm just trying to keep it simple, really
[23:13] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, try sudo apt-get update
[23:13] <mikubuntu> anybody familiar with remobo? (remobo.com) sposed to be a remote help assistant type app, but so far all i can do is instant message with my friend on it.  i want to use it to control her computer for updates and support.
[23:13] <Bragex9> what is the command for restarting samba?
[23:14] <Ebuntu>
[23:14] <slidinghorn> Bragex9, http://leuksman.com/pages/Linux#Nsurl
[23:14] <willwork4foo> Bragex9, /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[23:14] <slidinghorn> oops Bragex9 /etc/init.d/samba restart
[23:14] <willwork4foo> slidinghorn, httpd surely?
[23:14] <willwork4foo> oh woops
[23:14] <sebsebseb> burt_: Right it seems that your going to need someone else to help you with your ATI card
[23:15] <willwork4foo> why did I read "samba" and think "apache"
[23:15] <Ebuntu> ati D:
[23:15] <willwork4foo> sorry slidinghorn and Bragex9, I was wrong there - brainfail
[23:15] <sebsebseb> burt_: I have Nividia anyway :)  and ATI cards can be a right thing to get working properly when it comes to Ubuntu
[23:15] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, quite true there. I have an ati card
[23:15] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, probably will never get both compiz and its drivers working :(
[23:16] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: oh?
[23:16] <daedaluz> willwork4foo: hmm, that worked, trying upgrade now
[23:16] <sebsebseb> dasgewitter: well Compiz is pretty sucky anyway
[23:16] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, just having to use the default drivers for now
[23:16] <Arkan> can anyone help me with a problem i have with netbook remix.....????
[23:16] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, you is welcome :)
[23:16] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, oh, I enjoy it.
[23:16] <spartan07_> hey guys any recommendations on a small business server solution that runs on ubuntu? need something where I can gather all emails from co and have a centralized place for files and info sharing <running server 8.04>
[23:16] <dasgewitter> sebsebseb, it just means I can't do games and what not
[23:16] <Arkan> can anyone help me with a problem i have with netbook remix.....????
[23:16] <daedaluz> willwork4foo: lol, apparently problem was that apt itself was going to get an update..
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !ask | Arkan
[23:16] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, yep
[23:17] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, I spotted that earlier today when my apt updated itself
[23:17] <slidinghorn> spartan07, not saying you won't get an answer here, but you may get better responses in #ubuntu-server :)
[23:17] <Arkan> thanks ....
[23:17] <azeryu> how to unarchive tar.bz2 ?
[23:17] <willwork4foo> kind of a nightmare, coz when apt gets an update you can't install things properly until you've updated it (sometimes)
[23:17] <Ebuntu> arkan, please ask the queston so we can answer it
[23:17] <Guest25070> hi
[23:17] <frank82vt> slidinghorn ok the script works when i write phyton mswinurl_launcher.py "webshortcut.url" but the url is opened whit konqueror web browser. In the bug the script creator says tha the url file will be opened whit the default web browser. So How can i change my default web browser to Firefox in ubuntu?
[23:17] <willwork4foo> As a general rule, I tend to run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before installing anything new
[23:18] <willwork4foo> daedaluz, sorry my last was for you
[23:18] <Arkan> I have upgraded netbook remix i and now it loads to ubuntu screen but i dont see the apps or can do anything only to restart or reboot....
[23:18] <Guest25070> s
[23:18] <Ebuntu> azeryu, you should be able to open it with archive manager
[23:18] <willwork4foo> Arkan, you running UNE 10.04?
[23:18] <Arkan> yes
[23:18] <azeryu> via command
[23:18] <azeryu> how to do ? Ebuntu
[23:18] <slidinghorn> azeryu, tar xjf filename (however, as Ebuntu said, you should be able to do it by double clicking it)
[23:18] <tom__594> N e one in here have experience with Nvidia acting retarded pm me this really is frustrating
[23:18] <willwork4foo> Arkan, do you see anything at all on screen?
[23:18] <Guest25070> '
[23:18] <willwork4foo> Arkan, I'm running a clean install of 10.04 UNE and it's fine on my netbook
[23:19] <Arkan> yes the ubuntu logo but i have not access to any menu
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !pm | tom__594
[23:19] <Arkan> it worked fine before the upgrade ...
[23:19] <willwork4foo> Arkan: there *aren't* any menus from the ubuntu logo in the top left corner. That serves as a button to take you to the full-screen launcher
[23:19] <Arkan> i had a dual boot ubuntu - winxp install
[23:19] <mikubuntu> anybody familiar with remobo? (remobo.com) sposed to be a remote help assistant type app, but so far all i can do is instant message with my friend on it.  i want to use it to control her computer for updates and support.
[23:20] <willwork4foo> Arkan: can you see various icons down the left side and different panels of program icons in the main screen area?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> !vnc > mikubuntu
[23:20] <Arkan> i press every key on the keyboard  but nothing happens
[23:20] <Arkan> no there aren't any icons anymoer....
[23:20] <willwork4foo> Arkan, that's generally a very bad thing to do - pressing keys that is.
[23:20] <Guest25070> s
[23:20] <Arkan> help guys...
[23:20] <willwork4foo> Arkan: depending on how much you want to fix this, you could just remove all your dotfiles and start from a clean config
[23:20] <Guest25070> i
[23:21] <Arkan> would i lose my settings and files in ubuntu and xp....???
[23:21] <Apoc1fy>  /join ##java
[23:21] <Apoc1fy> erm
[23:21] <Apoc1fy> sorry lol
[23:21] <Ebuntu> :P
[23:21] <Danisincera> @@
[23:21] <willwork4foo> Arkan: (NB - THIS WILL DELETE ALL SAVED APP CONFIGURATIONS for your account in Ubuntu, DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!)
[23:21] <willwork4foo> Arkan, rm -rf ~/.*
[23:22] <Ebuntu> D:
[23:22] <sebsebseb> !ops | willwork4foo
[23:22] <opij> !danger
[23:22] <willwork4foo> Arkan, ONLY do that command if you want to obliterate all app-specific settings in Ubuntu
[23:22] <Ebuntu> occrap
[23:22] <Arkan> rm -rf ~/.*
[23:22] <Arkan> ?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Arkan: no don't run that
[23:22] <rg58sma> hello
[23:22] <niko> Arkan: ?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Arkan: it will really mess up your system
[23:22] <Arkan> what should i do......?
[23:23] <rg58sma> and i wanna install cincepaint
[23:23] <Arkan> what should i do......?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Arkan: if the command works that is, so don't run that
[23:23] <h00k> Arkan: Don't run that command.
[23:23]  * Random832 would generally make a backup dir and mv ~/.* [that]
[23:23] <Aethnen> long story short my macbook ubuntu's sound is completely not working after attempting to change a touchpad driver by changing the xorg file
[23:23] <Arkan> i have no access to terminal should i use live cd...?
[23:24] <Ebuntu> ctrl+alt+F2 should get you console in most cased
[23:24] <Ebuntu> cases*
[23:24] <tom__594> sudo apt-Nvidia Geforce  --error unkown computer format   .....LOL
[23:24] <Arkan> maybe grub 2 menu is like i say and there is a key combination to the menu.....???
[23:24] <Ebuntu> tom__594: its sudo apt-get
[23:24] <tom__594> LOL
[23:24] <rg58sma> anyone can helpme
[23:25] <Jordan_U> Arkan: Hold shift to get the grub menu at boot, if that's what you're asking.
[23:25] <tom__594> I really am gonna throw this thing out the damn window
[23:25] <rg58sma> with CinePaint in jaunty??
[23:25] <Ebuntu> rg58sma what happens when you try to instal
[23:25] <preston> My Playstation 3 won't see a media server when I use UMBUTU 10.04 like it will when I use windows. I just want to transfer files on a home network. Any hints people?
[23:25] <Arkan> i get the screen where i choose between xp and ubuntu......
[23:25] <Aethnen> long story short my macbook ubuntu's sound is completely not working after attempting to create an xorg file
[23:25] <rg58sma> hi Ebuntu
[23:25] <Guest25070> http://cl.ly/da65bd94f69b51931e5f
[23:25] <Ebuntu> hi
[23:25] <Guest25070> http://cl.ly/da65bd94f69b51931e5f
[23:26] <Arkan> i can see the bar with the battery and the clock and etc.....
[23:26] <rg58sma> when  -make-
[23:26] <rg58sma> have and error
[23:26] <Jordan_U> !ops | Guest25070
[23:26] <Arkan> and i can do anything only if i press the power key and see the choice o f reboot and restart ...etc
[23:27] <Arkan> help guys,,,
[23:27] <Ebuntu> dont click on any link from bitly, or any url shortening service
[23:27] <caio> how can I output the public key generated by ssh-keygen to the stdout without creating a file? can I?
[23:27] <Arkan> !ask anyone to help me...??
[23:27] <Aethnen> my macbook ubuntu's sound is completely not working after attempting to create an xorg file
[23:27] <Ebuntu> arkan whats up
[23:28] <Arkan> i can see only ubuntu screen no icons no apps
[23:28] <Aethnen> anybody?? my macbook ubuntu's sound is completely not working after attempting to create an xorg file
[23:28] <Jordan_U> Arkan: After you login, or do you not see the login screen?
[23:28] <Ebuntu> was there an interuption with the install?
[23:28] <Arkan> i see the login screen it asks for my password...
[23:28] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/UqLxjUa6
[23:28] <rg58sma> Ebuntu: http://pastebin.com/UqLxjUa6
[23:29] <indrora> ok Im having a bad problem. 10.04, i've got a freezeup randomly whenever I try updating apt.
[23:29] <Arkan> all after i upgraded my ubuntu remix
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Arkan: After clicking on your user name a "session" menu should appear, try the failsafe gnome session.
[23:29] <Aethnen> anybody?? my macbook ubuntu's sound is completely not working
[23:29] <sensae> Hello. I'm trying to capture sound from my line in connector and play it back out through my line out.
[23:29] <indrora> Aethnen: xorg and sound have nothing to with each other.
[23:30] <Ebuntu> is strlen and strcpy required for cinepaint?
[23:30] <indrora> Aethnen: I'd assume you created an xorg.conf file somewhere in the bowels of /etc/X11?
[23:30] <Aethnen> indrora well that would be the thing that got changed right before the sound stopped working
[23:30] <Ebuntu> geez ubottu should have a !dependencies command
[23:30] <Arkan> i have booted with a live cd and tried to recovery but nothing.....
[23:30] <Aethnen> indrora i was trying to install a touchpad driver
[23:30] <mikubuntu> sebsebseb, i thought that remobo worked more simply than vnc, is how it sounds on their ws ( remobo.com )
[23:31] <Arkan> Ellinas kaneis..........????
[23:31] <Ebuntu> ?
[23:31] <nerdy_kid> how would i copy the output of a command into my clipboard from a shell script? thanks :)
[23:31] <indrora> Aethnen: Have you read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[23:31] <erUSUL> nerdy_kid: use xclip
[23:32] <Aethnen> indrora yes several times, and the sound was working out of the box like it says, but the touchpad wasn't
[23:32] <mkquist> thats funny, link to restoration hardware...
[23:32] <nerdy_kid> erUSUL thanks :)
[23:32] <indrora> Aethnen: I'm not a mac user so I cant entirely help
[23:33] <mkquist> MAYFAIR STEAMER MEDIA TRUNK VINTAGE CIGAR LEATHER
[23:33] <mkquist> $1895
[23:33] <mkquist> oops
[23:33] <jpds> wut.
[23:33] <Ebuntu> lol
[23:33] <mkquist> sry about that one...
[23:33] <Aethnen> indrora my non-noob friend was confused by how there was no xorg file there but the instructions for installing the driver said there would be
[23:33] <preston> media server......I know theres a way I can set one upon  ubuntu 10.04
[23:34] <willwork4foo> what'd I miss? anything good?
[23:34] <Ebuntu> not really
[23:34] <rg58sma> what/
[23:34] <rg58sma> ?
[23:34] <maxxx> hi
[23:34] <indrora> Aethnen: X needs a pointer to what files it should load. It tries its best but I dont think its a good solution at the moment. I'm having similar issues with my little Dell here, where it has to be in 1400x1050 or it breaks the gfx card.
[23:34] <Ebuntu> !hi | maxxx
[23:35] <Aethnen> indrora so how was it working without any xorg file at all? and why is it now working except for the sound now that we deleted the xorg file again?
[23:36] <Ebuntu> i dont think xorg has a file like that by default
[23:36] <indrora> Aethnen: X has "sensible Defaults" that it tries to auto-load. Its a recent set of autoconfiguration patches that Ubuntu has been putting on
[23:36] <TheSkeward> I'm new to linux, using 10.04,  and trying to get my wireless connection set up at my university.  I believe I have the driver for my adapter correctly installed, but when I follow the directions on the uni's "how to connect to the wireless network with ubuntu), it doesn't connect.  I have no idea what I'm missing.  Can anyone help me?
[23:36] <indrora> TheSkeward: What wireless card?
[23:36] <rg58sma> Ebuntu: exist anyy solutions???
[23:36] <Aethnen> indrora is there any way to get that thing back to how it was before?
[23:37] <Ebuntu> TheSkeward, try hooking p to ethernet and getting wicd
[23:37] <ridin> what program is there to record your desktop and save it
[23:37] <TheSkeward> belkin n1 adapter,  model F5D8051, ver 2000
[23:37] <erUSUL> !search record
[23:37] <willwork4foo> TheSkeward, does the wireless icon appear in the top corner
[23:37] <erUSUL> !screencast | ridin
[23:37] <Ebuntu> xvidcap is great
[23:37] <indrora> TheSkeward: IIRC thats a b43 card... I'd look a little though
[23:37] <willwork4foo> ridin, I've used Xvidcap before now and it worked fairly well
[23:37] <TheSkeward> Ebuntu: I don't have ethernet.
[23:38] <indrora> Aethnen: rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to something other than that, like xorg.fail
[23:38] <Ebuntu> D:
[23:38] <rg58sma> ridin: recordmydesktop
[23:38] <ridin> ok, thanks
[23:38] <TheSkeward> indrora: what does 'b43 card' mean?
[23:38] <willwork4foo> TheSkeward, is it a broadcom card?
[23:38] <willwork4foo> TheSkeward, lspci | grep Wireless
[23:38] <Aethnen> indrora it's already been deleted, should I make another new one?
[23:38] <indrora> TheSkeward: B43 means its based on the Broadcom 43 chipset.
[23:38] <psych787> can the ubuntu spalsh screen be DISABLED?
[23:39] <Ebuntu> i think the ubuntu repo has the broadcom driver
[23:39] <indrora> Aethnen: If you've gotten rid of it and something else is wrong, it is completely unrelated to X11
[23:39] <psych787> I hate the splash screen, I have special scripts and I want to know what they're doing.
[23:39] <ridin> ok, i've done recordmydesktop and ran it in the terminal, how do i stop it and save it
[23:39] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, it does - it's in the restricted drivers thingy
[23:39] <willwork4foo> ridin, just a guess, but - Ctrl-D?
[23:39] <iceroot> psych787: grub1 or grub2?
[23:39] <willwork4foo> for end-of-file
[23:39] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, of course "thingy" is a technical term
[23:39] <Aethnen> indrora okay, any ideas why the default thing you mentioned is no longer getting the sound?
[23:39] <Ebuntu> :P
[23:40] <wombatman> theskeward: lspci -nn | grep Network
[23:40] <ridin> willwork4foo, no, but good guess :b
[23:40] <willwork4foo> ridin, was I close?
[23:40] <Ebuntu> theskeward tell us what kind of card it is and we'll get you the drivers
[23:40] <psych787> iceroot: Not grub, I mean the splash screen during init.
[23:40] <ridin> willwork4foo, no but it sounded smart `-`
[23:41] <airtonix> willwork4foo, Ebuntu actually that isn't the driver... its just a script that downloads it from somewhere else.
[23:41] <indrora> Aethnen: Sounds like a problem with the daemon that handles sound.
[23:41] <Ebuntu> oh
[23:41] <psych787> nevermind
[23:41] <indrora> Aethnen: I dont know how to restart PulseAudio but I'm pretty sure simply `sudo restart pulseaudio` will do it.
[23:41] <TheSkeward> Ebuntu: i have the drivers.  wombatman and willwork4foo: when i submit 'grep wireless' the terminal stops working.
[23:41] <willwork4foo> airtonix, I know, details details :) The enabling whojamacallit is in the restricted drivers doobrey.
[23:41] <airtonix> willwork4foo, Ebuntu just something to be aware of if you decided to be smart about doing an offline install
[23:42] <willwork4foo> TheSkeward, ooo, that sounds nasty.
[23:42] <Aethnen> indrora i am using alsa instead of pulseaudio
[23:42] <Ebuntu> airtonix, i did n offline install
[23:42] <willwork4foo> airtonix, yep - aware that everything is downloaded off the intarweb for Ubuntu when you ask for it
[23:42] <Ebuntu> pain in the butt
[23:42] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, I do those regularly with a USB  stick
[23:42] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, however, I usually plug it into the web after to get updates
[23:43] <Ebuntu> 9,00000000 trips to the other computer with usb to get dependencies DX
[23:43] <airtonix> indrora, Aethnen its sudo service pulseaudio restart.
[23:43] <indrora> airtonix: 'restart' 'start' and 'stop' i thought were linked together to upstart?
[23:43] <airtonix> Ebuntu, maybe you should read about offline installs then.
[23:44] <airtonix> indrora, important part is "service"
[23:44] <Ebuntu> airtonix, i was a ubuntu noob and had no idea what i was doing
[23:44] <Vooloo> is it possible to create a custom menu at the top called "Bookmarks" instead of having it under "Places" ? or a menu like it
[23:44] <Aethnen> airtonix the point is, I'm using alsa not pulseaudio
[23:44] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone I am trying to use xmodmap to assign a certain button on my remote control to toggle the minimization state but I am not sure what to map the button press to
[23:44] <airtonix> Vooloo, no.
[23:44] <MaMoUs> how to restart all network files and settings ?
[23:44] <willwork4foo> ARGH! That's IT! I can't TAKE this IRC client app any more! I'm going back to xchat! *stomp, stomp, stomp*
[23:44] <Aethnen> airtonix there is no pulseaudio on the system
[23:44] <nerdy_kid> how would i pick just the file name out of a absolute file name?
[23:45] <maskbandit> :)
[23:45] <Aethnen> indrora if restarting something were the solution, I've already restarted the computer about 5 times
[23:45] <airtonix> Aethnen, there should be if you are using the desktop ubuntu, unless you removed it on bad advice from someone else?
[23:45] <Vooloo> airtonix: well that sucks.
[23:45] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, could you be a little more specific?  not sure what you mean
[23:45] <airtonix> Vooloo, not without programming your own
[23:46] <Aethnen> airtonix you said it, it was someone else's advice
[23:46] <Ebuntu> nerdykid, do you mean * or [$name] or somethin?
[23:46] <willwork4foo> You know you're a geek when: You can type your 18-character alphanumeric password in on a new(ish) netbook in the dark, many times over, and not get it wrong once
[23:46] <airtonix> Aethnen, protip: when someone says remove pulseaudio, ignore them.
[23:46] <Ebuntu> lol
[23:46] <Aethnen> airtonix he has found alsa to work better
[23:46] <Mqueue> lol
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn im in a script, and a command returns e.g. /home/user/file.desktop how would i strip the file.desktop part out of it? thanks :)
[23:47] <MaMoUs> how to restart all network files and settings ?
[23:47] <Vooloo> airtonix: why does the menu editor lock it to two menus only?
[23:47] <airtonix> MamboKing, sudo service Network-Manager restart
[23:47] <indrora> Aethnen: ALSA has some advantages... what rev macbook are you on?
[23:47] <Ebuntu> MaMoUs, please be more specific aboute what you need
[23:47] <willwork4foo> Aaaaaaaaaahhhh, that's more like it.
[23:47] <airtonix> Vooloo, ask the gnome developer team.
[23:47] <Aethnen> indrora it's a 4.1 macbook and ubuntu 9.10
[23:47] <^Jay2^> mamous /etc/init.d/netwotking restart
[23:48] <frank82vt> Please How can i change my defautl web browser?
[23:48] <indrora> Aethnen: Why not 10.04?
[23:48]  * willwork4foo is back in happy fluffy xchat
[23:48] <^Jay2^> networking
[23:48] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, so you just want it to return the containing directory?
[23:48] <Ebuntu> netowkting lol
[23:48] <Wraith_666> lol willwork
[23:48] <airtonix> indrora, Aethnen alsa was always there, removing pulseaudio just made your multiplexing audio tasks harder
[23:48] <Aethnen> indrora for some reason, i can't update
[23:48] <^Jay2^> typinh in iphone sure is challenging
[23:48] <willwork4foo> frank82vt, System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[23:48] <^Jay2^> errrr
[23:48] <Wraith_666> gtgbbl
[23:48] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn no i just want the file name
[23:48] <Aethnen> airtonix i have no idea what you are talking about
[23:49] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: my small brother miss all network settings, and now my INTERNET is slow and it disconnect in eth0 but in wireless it is fast (in the same connection)
[23:49] <airtonix> Aethnen, pusleaudio and alsa do not perform the same job
[23:49] <MaMoUs> ^Jay2^: my small brother miss all network settings, and now my INTERNET is slow and it disconnect in eth0 but in wireless it is fast (in the same connection)
[23:49] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, could you pastebin the script?
[23:49] <Arkan> I can see only my desktop in UNR no apps no icons i can do nothing ......any suggestions...\
[23:49] <Ebuntu> MaMoUs, isnt there an option to set network settings to default?
[23:49] <^Jay2^> i better login to a real pc
[23:49] <indrora> Aethnen: According to documentation, 10.04 runs better OOB than 9.10
[23:50] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn sure, sorry im so vague
[23:50] <Felix0_0> hi
[23:50] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, I'm just starting programming myself, so I'll take a shot at helping...you're doing fine though :)
[23:50] <Aethnen> indrora yeah i am trying to update but 10.04 isn't showing up as something to update to
[23:50] <twek> 10. loads way faster than 9.1
[23:50] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: yes but he went unto the files (like what he told me) and played there, Cz he wanted to install Hotspot shiled soo he miss every thing there
[23:50] <sensae> How can I route sound from my line in to my line out?
[23:50] <willwork4foo> indrora, I can attest to 10.04 running better OOTB than any other Linux distro I've ever seen
[23:50] <Zelozelos> im using xchat, how do i add a second favorite channel that will automatically connect when i start the app?
[23:51] <indrora> Aethnen: I'd suggest a fresh install, honestly.
[23:51] <willwork4foo> Zelozelos, look for the tick box that says "automatically connect" or something - one sec, I'm running xchat I'll take a look
[23:51] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/SFHXXQJW
[23:51] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: go to the server list ( crtl + S iirc) and edit the freenode server the facourite channels
[23:51] <indrora> As bad as it sounds, there's a few bugs in 9.04 that can be fixed by just wiping fresh
[23:51] <Ebuntu> !info hotspot
[23:51] <Ebuntu> what is hotspot
[23:52] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: a proxy program
[23:52] <Ebuntu> ahhhh that can make things REAL slow
[23:52] <Zelozelos> erUSUL, i got that part, i have #ubuntu, i would like to have #blender as well, is that possible?
[23:52] <maskbandit> hotspot shield :)
[23:52] <Ebuntu> do you want to remove hotspot?
[23:52] <willwork4foo> Zelozelos, or just right-click the channel name if you're already in it, and select Add to favourite
[23:52] <MaMoUs> maskbandit: u know it ?
[23:52] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: yes. there is a button to edit the list of channels
[23:52] <willwork4foo> and it'll auto-join
[23:52] <slow-motion> n8
[23:52] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: it is not installed
[23:52] <Aethnen> indrora i was hoping not to have to reinstall all this crap again, since I am still in like day 4 of this install
[23:52] <cjae> its noveau good yet? or is there jockey for nvidia yet?
[23:53] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: a button with three dots
[23:53] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: he wanted to try to install it, but he played in every file over there
[23:53] <maskbandit> yeh! only for win. :)
[23:53] <willwork4foo> Zelozelos, go into #blender, right-click on the channel name in the channel picker and add to favourites.
[23:53] <nerdy_kid> my xorg process is using 215mb of ram, is that normal? (using kde)
[23:53] <frank82vt> willwork4foo I have kde 3.5 and dont find that rute
[23:53] <Zelozelos> erUSUL, yup, i know that part, is there a way to add a second fav to it?
[23:53] <Ebuntu> MaMous ohboy
[23:53] <Zelozelos> ahh ty willwork4foo
[23:53] <Ebuntu> brb
[23:53] <willwork4foo> frank82vt, oh - no idea on KDE
[23:54] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: xD
[23:54] <Coder7> so, Empathy is a horrible IRC client... are there plans to improve it or choose a different default chat client for ubuntu in the future?
[23:54] <willwork4foo> sorry, I are a gnome person here. frank82vt try asking in #kubuntu
[23:54] <slidinghorn> nerdy_kid, I'm having trouble finding where that would return any file location... ?  Did you paste the file that is found or the actual script?
[23:54] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: there are thre more buttons in the dialog that appears when you press the ... butoon one of them is *ADD*
[23:54] <willwork4foo> Coder7, I had no idea Empathy even did IRC. I use xchat
[23:54] <erUSUL> Zelozelos: should be pretty obvious
[23:54] <MaMoUs> Coder7: use Pidgin it is the best i'm using it now
[23:54] <willwork4foo> erUSUL, already solved - easier than adding it manually :)
[23:54] <Coder7> willwork4foo: I just got so sick of it a few minutes ago I pulled out the trusty ol irssi
[23:55] <willwork4foo> Coder7, I gotta admit, sometimes I fire up BitchX just because I like the fact that I can type a command with a swearword in it
[23:55] <Zelozelos> ahh now i see, u can add channels seperated by a ',' ;) ty guys
[23:55] <cjae> I have a geforce 6200 I use with tv out, but when I installed 10.04 jockey did not write to xorg.conf and the nouveau driver made the secondary screen tv out skip
[23:55] <Coder7> Empathy doesn't support hardly any / commands
[23:55] <willwork4foo> Coder7, give xchat a go (not the gnome version)
[23:55] <Ebuntu> why not gnome
[23:56] <cjae> are either of these thing fixed?
[23:56] <MaMoUs> Coder7: try Pidgin
[23:56] <Arkan> I can see only my desktop in UNR no apps no icons i can do nothing ......any suggestions...\
[23:56] <Coder7> nah, I just installed the irssi client. I used to run it in a screen session 24/7, i'll just go back to that
[23:56] <MaMoUs> Ebuntu: soo u know how to reset all network files ?
[23:56] <twek> i did apt-get to install xchat
[23:56] <Coder7> it's just unfortunate to see the default chat client have such poor IRC support
[23:56] <Ebuntu> let me see
[23:56] <twek> runs with no problems or lags
[23:56] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, because the gnome version of xchat has things in weird places. it scares me
[23:57] <willwork4foo> gs
[23:57] <willwork4foo> f
[23:57] <Ebuntu> like what
[23:57] <willwork4foo> g
[23:57] <willwork4foo> twek, good innit
[23:57] <ridin> o.o
[23:57] <willwork4foo> Ebuntu, just things aren't where I'm used to them being, and the channel users list isn't onscreen by default - stuff like that
[23:57] <maskbandit> MaMoUs, desperate for hotspot!!! :)
[23:57] <willwork4foo> personal preference - and it's fairly idiot-proof, hence why I can use it
[23:58] <Aethnen> how do i find out what my sound daemon is?
[23:58] <zoidberg-> s/willwork4foo/willcode4food/
[23:58] <zoidberg-> :p
[23:58] <willwork4foo> zoidberg-, yep
[23:58] <willwork4foo> I need foo
[23:58] <willwork4foo> I have plenty of bar
[23:58] <Ebuntu> or willhost4food
[23:58] <MaMoUs> maskbandit: what u mean
[23:58] <zoidberg-> I remember seeing a picture of a hobo holding a sign saying "Will code for food" makes me chuckle
[23:58] <willwork4foo> lol
[23:58] <dragonriot> I hope someone here can help... I'm trying to make a USB Bootable Windows 7 Flash Drive, FROM Ubuntu 10.04... I know how to make an Ubuntu Flash Drive from Windows, but not the other way around... I need both accessible to me... Can anyone please help?
[23:58] <slidinghorn> !ot
[23:58] <willwork4foo> I used to have a tshirt from thinkgeek that said "Will Work For Foo"
[23:59] <dragonriot> and I've been googling that for about 2 hours, with no luck
[23:59] <indrora> dragonriot: You need a windows box.
[23:59] <nerdy_kid> slidinghorn its a context menu addon for dolphin, %F is the absolute filename of the file that i right click.  my problem is in the line echo "http:/<IP_ADDRESS>/%F" -- eg if %F is /home/jesse/test it would return "http:/IPADDRESS//home/jesse/test" which obviously wouuldnt work, i need it to return "http:/IPADDRESS/test"
[23:59] <Zelozelos> dragonriot there is a windows support channel, u may have luck in there
[23:59] <zoidberg-> Was that aimed at me slidinghorn ?
[23:59] <caio> exit
[23:59] <caio> sorry
[23:59] <wbf> hey guys.  anyone use launchpad?  or have knowledge in makefiles / the rules file?  i have a small question.
[23:59] <MaMoUs> dragonriot: u have the .iso file of windows 7 ?
[23:59] <zoidberg-> wbf: Just ask question, ofcourse people are in this channel.
[23:59] <dragonriot> wow... I need help doing something IN Ubuntu... not IN WINDOWS... yes, I have the Iso of Windows 7..
[23:59] <willwork4foo> dragonriot, yep, you really do. I had that same problem - in the end, I had to install the Windows 7 machine onto virtualbox, use it to create the bootable windows 7 USB stick
[23:59] <Aethnen> how do i find out what my sound daemon is?
[23:59] <dragonriot> MaMoUs: thank you for asking a valid question


[00:21] <mup> PR snapcraft#3233 opened: travis: set cla check as final stage <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3233>
[03:23] <az> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/get-snap-package-and-dependencies-size-before-installing/19135
[03:23] <az> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/how-to-get-dependencies-and-reserve-dependencies-for-a-sanp-package/19134
[05:14] <mborzecki> morning
[07:17] <pedronis> mborzecki: hi, seems we got a new strange centos failure? https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9068
[07:17] <mup> PR #9068: tests/main/selinux-clean: workaround SELinux denials triggered by linger setup on Centos8 <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9068>
[07:19] <mborzecki> pedronis: hi, hmmm that's weird
[07:19] <pedronis> it's not related to your change but yes
[07:22] <mborzecki> huh, /sys/fs/cgroup/unified really isn't there
[07:22] <mup> PR snapd#9006 closed: bootloader: compose command line with mode and extra arguments <Squash-merge> <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9006>
[07:22] <mup> PR snapd#9068 closed: tests/main/selinux-clean: workaround SELinux denials triggered by linger setup on Centos8 <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9068>
[07:24] <mborzecki> pedronis: systemd was switched to use default-hierarchy=legacy
[07:25] <pedronis> interesting
[07:27] <mup> PR snapd#9071 closed: release: <IP_ADDRESS> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9071>
[07:27] <mup> PR snapd#9072 closed: packaging: add placeholder changelog for <IP_ADDRESS> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9072>
[07:28] <pedronis> mborzecki: I merged the various release related branches, and I uploaded the release source package
[07:28] <pedronis> to the ppa
[07:29] <mborzecki> pedronis: great, thank you for working on it
[07:29] <mborzecki> let's see what the build will contain
[07:29] <mborzecki> as for centos8, something is off, there is a changelog entry for systemd, but the switch to legacy was back in 2018 in version 239-7
[07:30] <pedronis> mborzecki: the changelog here now looks right: https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/image/+packages
[07:30] <pedronis> let's say how the build goes
[07:30] <mborzecki> we still have the named systemd hierarchy
[07:31] <pedronis> s/say/see
[07:32] <mborzecki> pedronis: hmm, the diff is large
[07:33] <mborzecki> ah right, it's a diff between 2.45.3 upload (whic was really master) and <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:34] <mborzecki> and it removes things that were on master, so looks legit
[07:37] <pedronis> mborzecki: are you blocked on me on something atm?
[07:37] <mborzecki> pedronis: no, i'm good
[07:37] <mborzecki> quick errand, delivery
[07:38] <mborzecki> or not
[07:40] <pedronis> mborzecki: when you have a moment, could you review #9067 ? (UC20 related)
[07:40] <mup> PR #9067: cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: add doSystemdMount + unit tests <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9067>
[07:41] <mborzecki> pedronis: yeah, have it open since yesterday :/
[07:46] <pedronis> mborzecki: so amd64 build worked, but we have some build failures (test timeouts)
[07:49] <mborzecki> retry?
[07:49] <pedronis> yes, that's what I'm doing
[08:15] <pedronis> there's quite a bit of conflicts merging back into master :/
[08:15] <mborzecki> pedronis: #9063 is not waiting for anything, we can land it right?
[08:15] <mup> PR #9063: cmd/snap/debug: add "snap debug seeding" command for preseeding debugging (4/N) <Preseeding 🍞> <Run nested> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9063>
[08:15] <pedronis> mborzecki: I think so
[08:16] <pedronis> mborzecki: btw there were few changes on master to arch PKGBUILD hope they aren't mandatory
[08:17] <mborzecki> pedronis: i can take a look when you open the 2.45->master merge branch
[08:18] <mup> PR snapd#9063 closed: cmd/snap/debug: add "snap debug seeding" command for preseeding debugging (4/N) <Preseeding 🍞> <Run nested> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9063>
[08:19] <pedronis> mborzecki: there's 20 files in conflict, might take a while
[08:20] <doko> please could somebody have a look at the snapd autopkg test regressions triggered by dpkg?
[08:36] <mborzecki> doko: do you have a link to the test?
[08:38] <doko> mborzecki: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[08:40] <mborzecki> hmm that should be an easy fix hopefully
[08:42] <mborzecki> quick errand, this time for real
[09:23] <mup> PR snapd#9073 opened: release: <IP_ADDRESS> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9073>
[09:41] <mborzecki> re
[09:46] <mborzecki> doko: this should be fixed in 2.45.3
[09:47] <mborzecki> and .3.1 too
[10:33] <mup> PR snapd#9074 opened: bootloader: extend managed assets bootloader interface to compose a candidate command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9074>
[11:51] <mborzecki> pedronis: do you know how the vendor, no_vendor tarballs get generated for the github releases page?
[11:53] <pedronis> mborzecki: not really, but I would imagine no vendor can be created with git archive maybe?
[11:55] <mborzecki> pedronis: hm my guess it's from slicing the tarball we have in LP, mvo usually uploaded those after the builds were done
[11:55] <pedronis> mborzecki: do we have a tarball in LP?
[11:56] <mborzecki> pedronis: there's the source tarball that was uploaded for build
[11:56] <pedronis> there is, that has vendor in though
[11:57] <mborzecki> ha, w8 i think i got something
[12:04] <ijohnson> morning folks
[12:05] <ijohnson> seems that #9063 was landed without some of the changes that I made in #9035
[12:05] <mup> PR #9063: cmd/snap/debug: add "snap debug seeding" command for preseeding debugging (4/N) <Preseeding 🍞> <Run nested> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9063>
[12:05] <mup> PR #9035: o/devicestate: save seeding/preseeding times for use with debug seeding api (3/N) <Preseeding 🍞> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9035>
[12:05] <ijohnson> shall I merge master into #9035 or just open a separate PR to make for simpler git history ?
[12:05] <ijohnson> 9035 is also green, so perhaps that would be quickest to just get another +1 to that PR
[12:17] <mborzecki> ijohnson: hey, i'll take a look
[12:18] <ijohnson> thanks mborzecki
[12:18] <mborzecki> ijohnson: maybe you could do a pass over #9074
[12:18] <mup> PR #9074: bootloader: extend managed assets bootloader interface to compose a candidate command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9074>
[12:18] <ijohnson> it's just two patches after pedronis' review fixing error message and tests
[12:18] <ijohnson> mborzecki: sure I will add it to my queue
[12:18] <mborzecki> ijohnson: oh, and i fixed the caching & artifact
[12:18] <ijohnson> mborzecki: yes I saw that, thanks for keeping up with that
[12:18] <ijohnson> seems my idea last night was a bit too naive
[12:19] <mborzecki> fwiw 33MB of a snap is ok to fit in the cache ;)
[12:20] <mborzecki> wonder how large the files can be and if we can use that in an interesting ways maybe
[12:23] <pedronis> mborzecki: did you find out how to make those tars?
[12:24] <mborzecki> pedronis: sorry, yes, there's a release-tools/repack-debian-tarball.sh script in snapd source tree which does the slicing and stitching
[12:26] <mborzecki> pedronis: ./repack-debian-tarball.sh snapd_<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.xz will produce 3 tarballs
[12:27] <pedronis> ah, good
[12:29] <mup> PR snapd#9035 closed: o/devicestate: save seeding/preseeding times for use with debug seeding api (3/N) <Preseeding 🍞> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9035>
[12:29] <mup> PR snapd#9075 opened: daemon/api: use pointers to time.Time for debug seeding aspect <Preseeding 🍞> <Simple 😃> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9075>
[12:29] <ijohnson> thanks mborzecki I just merged it
[12:29] <ijohnson> and opened the final bit for snap debug seeding, 9075, which is very simple
[12:33] <mborzecki> ijohnson: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9067#discussion_r462261549 little tweak
[12:33] <mup> PR #9067: cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: add doSystemdMount + unit tests <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9067>
[12:35] <ijohnson> mborzecki: thanks! I will take that into a followup I think since this is green
[12:35]  * ijohnson really likes how green things are to master as of late
[12:35]  * ijohnson (with much kicking of github actions)
[12:39] <mup> PR snapd#9067 closed: cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: add doSystemdMount + unit tests <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9067>
[13:09] <mup> PR snapd#8558 closed: tests: make the nested library usable independently of spread <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Closed by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8558>
[13:48]  * cachio afk -> buy a medicine
[13:50] <ijohnson> pedronis: #8867 is sudo git mergable, the tests that failed are unrelated, but we could also try to make it green with a master merge
[13:50] <mup> PR #8867: interfaces: add uinput interface <Needs Samuele review> <⛔ Blocked> <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8867>
[14:11] <pedronis> ijohnson: did you look at it, it changed a bit since it was last reviewed by others but me?
[14:12] <ijohnson> pedronis: sorry no I didn't, do you want me to do another review since it changed ?
[14:12] <pedronis> ijohnson: yes, also maybe a master merge is in order, though I think is quite self contained
[14:12] <ijohnson> pedronis: ok, I will do a master merge and review it then
[14:13] <pedronis> ijohnson: thank you
[14:25] <ijohnson> pedronis: I approved that PR and merged master there
[14:27] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: hmm i forgot we have ModeRun/ModeRecover in the boot pacakge
[14:27] <mup> PR snapcraft#3233 closed: travis: set cla check as final stage <tooling> <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3233>
[14:32] <ijohnson> 8-line test only PR that only needs 1 more +1: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8998
[14:32] <mup> PR #8998: tests/cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: add test case for empty recovery_mode <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8998>
[14:33] <ijohnson> also pedronis do you need me to review 9073 too ?
[14:33] <pedronis> mborzecki: :)
[14:34] <pedronis> ijohnson: yes if you can
[14:34] <ijohnson> pedronis: ack will do
[14:35] <mborzecki> cmatsuoka: btw can you try your branch with the code from #9074 ?
[14:35] <mup> PR #9074: bootloader: extend managed assets bootloader interface to compose a candidate command line <UC20> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9074>
[16:29] <ogra_> do we still have the limitation that content interfaces can only be consumed if both snaps come from the same publishr (by default that is ... ) ?
[16:29] <ijohnson> ogra_: that limitation is only about _auto-connection_
[16:30] <ijohnson> ogra_: you can have a content interface from snap from publisher A and another snap from publisher B use that content snap, but either you need to get an auto-connection from the store or make the connection manually
[16:31] <ogra_> okay, thanks ... i guess that means a store-request then
[16:33] <mup> PR snapcraft#3231 closed: file utils: rename get_tool_path() to get_snap_tool_path() <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3231>
[16:53] <mup> PR snapcraft#3234 opened: project loader: refactor errors to conform to SnapcraftException <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3234>
[17:03] <mup> PR snapcraft#3235 opened: tests: fix assert ordering for error format tests <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3235>
[17:15] <mup> PR snapd#8867 closed: interfaces: add uinput interface <Created by jdstrand> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8867>
[18:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#3225 closed: specifications: default tracks <specification> <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3225>
[18:45]  * cachio kinesiologist
[20:18] <mup> PR snapcraft#3236 opened: snap: use python3-apt stage-package <maintenance> <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3236>
[22:11] <mup> PR snapd#8932 closed: o/ifacestate: update security profiles in connect undo handler <Bug> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/8932>


[02:29] <paulproteus> JonathanD: I have a freenode question!
[02:30] <paulproteus> I thought I'd ask you here rather than in an official channel, if that is okay (-:
[02:30] <paulproteus> In particular -- some friends and I have an open source quasi-hackerspace community called Beowulf Cluster. We want to use #beowulf, and while it is currently reg'd, no one is using it. Can we have it?
[02:30] <paulproteus> See http://rose.makesad.us/pipermail/beowulf-cluster/2013-March/thread.html for our community mailing list and info about our free software-oriented hackathon events.
[02:36] <paulproteus> JonathanD: For now, I will actually try talking to the channel owner (-:
[02:42] <ChinnoDog> Anyone here consider themselves knowledgable about open source e-learning software?
[02:47] <ChinnoDog> I decided to poke around a Moodle demo site since it is a mainstream e-learning package but it is so ugly and confusing. I expected something different.
[05:47] <JonathanD> hi paulproteus
[05:47] <JonathanD> Do that first, but you can also submit a request for it.
[05:47] <pleia2> JonathanD: it is very strange that you are awake
[05:48] <JonathanD> I just woke up.
[05:48] <JonathanD> That probably isn't any better, is it.
[05:48] <pleia2> this is early even for you :)
[05:48] <JonathanD> Ok, well, the sled was propped up against the door, because it snowed yesterday, and I was going to take the kids up to the park (but it was mostly de-snowed there before I got home)
[05:49] <JonathanD> And it fell down, and the dog decided it did not belong down (he's slightly ocd) so he started yelling at it.
[05:49] <pleia2> aha :)
[05:49] <JonathanD> So I had to come address that.
[05:49] <JonathanD> and I let him outside, and picked up my laptop while I'm waiting for him.
[05:49] <JonathanD> Is that better? :P
[05:50] <pleia2> yes, thank you
[05:50] <pleia2> :{
[05:50] <pleia2> :P
[05:50] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[05:50] <JonathanD> (I beat rmg)
[05:50] <pleia2> it's still yesterday here
[05:50] <JonathanD> hah
[09:32] <rmg51> Morning
[09:32] <rmg51> the real morning
[10:11] <JonathanD> Hi rmg51
[10:34] <rmg51> o/
[10:48] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[11:08] <rmg51> nothing new
[11:08] <rmg51> just the usual morning stuff
[11:18] <JonathanD> Sounds great.
[11:18] <JonathanD> HI adom
[11:24] <JonathanD> paulproteus_: morning!
[11:25] <rmg51> bye
[11:25] <JonathanD> later rmg51
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:08] <ChinnoDog> I would prefer to still be sleeping
[12:10] <teddy-dbear> me too
[12:11] <rmg51> bed is always better then work
[12:49] <ChinnoDog> I could use an egg souffle from Panera
[13:35] <waltman> I didn't know they did egg souffles
[13:48] <ChinnoDog> waltman: You are mising out
[13:48] <ChinnoDog> missing
[14:42] <ChinnoDog> The spinach & bacon egg souffle is my favorite.
[14:43] <waltman> I'll have to try it sometime!
[14:50] <JonathanD> it seems like bear rock is just gone
[14:50] <JonathanD> I don't think they moved.
[14:58] <waltman> Yeah, seems like it to me, too.
[14:58] <JonathanD> I'm kinda sad.
[14:59] <waltman> I've been getting these odd craving for their farmers omelet :(
[14:59] <JonathanD> The omelets were excellent.
[15:01] <JonathanD> The burgers and sandwiches, too
[17:10] <ChinnoDog> No one answered my e-learning software question. Surely there are opionions. MutantTurkey? waltman?
[17:12] <pleia2> moodle is pretty much the default for open source options, but you might also check out canvas: instructure.com
[17:13] <pleia2> but there are lots of moodle guides out there if you need help figuring out the workflow
[17:20] <ChinnoDog> Of all of them the moodle demo was the ugliest. Surely that counts for a lot with an elearing software. Checking out Canvas now
[17:24] <MutantTurkey> alright, I need to name my python package... and it's a python implementation of something called FEAST
[17:24] <MutantTurkey> or FS for short
[17:24] <MutantTurkey> PyFeast is boring
[17:24] <MutantTurkey> any ideas?
[17:26] <waltman> ChinnoDog: All I know about e-learning is that the commercial system Drexel uses sucks.
[17:27] <ChinnoDog> Canvas is beautiful. Thanks pleia2
[17:27] <pleia2> sure
[17:28] <ChinnoDog> Canvas ftw
[17:28] <ChinnoDog> waltman: The one that DeVry uses is pretty ugly too.
[17:29] <MutantTurkey> when is the new drexel One coming out?
[17:30] <waltman> Among my gripes with the old system is that if you tried to paste code into a text box in their discussion forums, it wouldn't display any of your formatting.
[17:31] <waltman> Makes it rather challenging to read lisp code that way :)
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> "If you're a technologist, most software is bad. Think of the worst software you use and you probably have a business idea."
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> so true
[17:45] <paulproteus_> JonathanD: Likewise!
[17:52] <JonathanD> paulproteus_: is there a website or just the ML?
[17:53] <paulproteus_> For now, there is just the mailing list. There is an events page here: http://pointlesstopology.com/events
[17:53] <paulproteus_> But not a full website just about the event.
[17:53] <paulproteus_> Although nm, I guess the above really is about the event!
[17:54] <paulproteus> JonathanD: ^ Yes, there is a website
[17:54] <JonathanD> Ok. I'll see what I can find out.
[17:55] <pleia2> I should go sometime, sunday nights are just lousy for me (half the time there is an ubuntu california night, the other half I'm spending QT with my fiance :))
[17:55] <pleia2> s/night/meeting
[17:57] <pleia2> who am I kidding, every night is bad
[18:12] <paulproteus> pleia2: Qt!! I thought you were an XFCE user!!
[18:12] <paulproteus> (just kidding)
[18:12] <paulproteus> (also I nearly typed XKCD user)
[18:13] <pleia2> :P
[19:09] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: Are you committed to using Tiny Tiny RSS as your Google Reader replacement? There is this: http://www.digg.com/reader
[19:10] <pleia2> right, moving to another 3rd party hosted reader (that's not even finished) makes a ton of sense :P
[19:10] <pleia2> tt-rss works great, I don't even like digg
[19:16] <ChinnoDog> But they have 96 days 4 hours and 44 mins to finish it
[19:16] <ChinnoDog> Even if it is just a google reader clone I might be happy with it
[19:57] <paulproteus> pleia2: I use hosted newsblur periodically, which I know I can self-host, as a random factoid.
[19:57] <paulproteus> I haven't actually read RSSs in ~1y though.


[01:07] <thumper> marcoceppi: *bzzt* wrong
[01:07] <thumper> marcoceppi: juju run runs within a hook context
[01:07] <thumper> marcoceppi: however, it isn't as easy as it should be
[01:08] <thumper> marcoceppi: I managed to execute juju run to get a relation config value using the CLI
[01:09] <thumper> but it requires a bit of prior understanding that isn't entirely obvious
[13:48] <pmatulis> with HA, how does the juju master get associated with the mongodb master? is it random (among the initial one + the ones which are about to be created) or is it always the initial single state server?
[13:54] <rick_h_> pmatulis: I'd assume it'd have to be the first ones. Until the others are brought up and sync'd they're not able to be a master.
[13:54] <pmatulis> rick_h_: makes sense
[13:55] <rick_h_> pmatulis: I guess it's not final/official. I think natefinch might know more/better if I'm incorrect.
[13:57] <natefinch> pmatulis, rick_h_: Mongodb chooses a master, and we make that Juju server the master
[13:58] <natefinch> pmatulis, rick_h_: if there's only one state server, obviously it's the master.  When you add more, mongodb chooses a new master through its magical and mysterious algorithm
[13:59] <pmatulis> natefinch: ah, the juju master always resides on the same host as the mongodb master?
[13:59] <natefinch> pmatulis: yep, just easier that way
[13:59] <pmatulis> natefinch: perfect
[14:59] <bloodearnest> so, it seems destroy-environment in manual provider doesn't invoke destroy-service on the environments services. Is this expected?
[15:00] <bloodearnest> means I need to remember to manuall destroy-service's first, before tearing down the env
[18:25] <skylerberg> Hi guys. I am starting to write my charm and I see that pretty every charm (that I have looked at) calls execd_preinstall at the start of the install hook. It is not clear to me after looking at the source code for this function what it does.
[18:58] <marcoceppi> skylerberg: this is really for our IS team, they do a special bit that adds an execd directory to call additional files
[18:59] <marcoceppi> it's how they add code for certs and stuff
[19:01] <skylerberg> marcoceppi: Alright. Thanks Marco.
[20:27] <mbruzek> Hello marcoceppi.  I am still having trouble getting amulet to deploy with this added binary.  I tried deleting the .bzr directory, but then I got juju-deployer errors, and I have tried your commit trick and which didn't work.
[20:28] <mbruzek> marcoceppi: Any other options?
[20:28] <marcoceppi> mbruzek: wait until next week and try again?


[01:30] <WorldGenesis__> o.o hello!
[03:44] <xubuntu638> Can anyone help a novice linux user with a boot issue?
[03:46] <xubuntu638> I installed automatic software updates and restarted xubuntu, and on boot attempt, dropped to shell with error message "/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exist"
[03:47] <xubuntu638> Booted ubuntu from installation flash drive, can access all files on hard drive, but cannot boot properly otherwise
[03:48] <xubuntu638> Anybody out there?
[05:26] <dreki> when i alt+click in a window it drags the window with the mouse. does anyone know how to disable that?
[05:27] <dreki> im using 12.04
[05:36] <vorsorken> dreki: Settings Manager -> Window Manager Tweaks -> Accessibility, then you can change or disable "key used to grab and move windows"
[05:38] <dreki> vorsorken: Thank you, I looked in settings but i overlooked "window manager tweeks" because of "window manager" haha.
[06:18] <HerbertWest> Hello There
[06:18] <HerbertWest> Hi, I need some help. I have a laptop, tablet type. I need something like: Magik Rotation. But for xubuntu 13.04. I mean, when I rotate the screen automatically rotate the desktop too. thank you very much
[11:53] <Poxy> Hi everybody!
[11:56] <Poxy> I have a problem with X. I have a laptop (zepto znote 3415w) with a geforce 8600m GT. I tried the proprietary drivers from within xubuntu, but never got xubuntu to recognize my graphics card. The native resolution of my display is 1280x800, but xubuntu only gives me 1024x768 and no hardware acceleration. I tried booting into recovery mode and starting lightdm from the root shell, and all of a sudden, everything worked. Native resolution
[11:58] <Poxy> I haven't used linux for a couple of years, and the last time xorg.conf was the holy grail of X. Now, it seems to me, the everything has been simplified or automatized, since neither nvidia-xconfig or using a skeleton xorg.conf or manually edited xorg.conf gives me a resolution higher than 800x600 or 1024x768. How can i get the settings that were used when i started lightdm from the recovery root shell, to be used every time?
[13:04] <Poxy> Is there anybody here that can help me with my problem or guide me in the direction of somebody who can?
[13:06] <elfy> !ask | Poxy
[13:17] <Poxy> !patience
[14:14] <Guest33506> hi there
[14:15] <Guest33506> i just finished to install xubuntu. when i try to install some packages it says to me that i didnt entered the corect password
[14:17] <ochosi> are you sure you don't have caps-lock enabled or a wrong keyboard-layout?
[14:17] <ochosi> (try typing it plaintext e.g. in some editor to check)
[14:18] <Guest33506> ochosi: i found the problem
[14:18] <Guest33506> it's keyboard layout
[14:19] <Guest33506> what's the shortcut for changing keyboard layout :D ?
[14:19] <ochosi> depends on your keyboard layout ;D
[14:20] <Guest33506> i tried alt+shift  and ctrl+shift but nothing happened. so i deleted the added keyboard language for now
[15:08] <Guest40563> Hi, I've installed a working mysql DB on xubuntu. But there is a problem while trying to access the jdbc class. Is there a helping hand out there?
[15:23] <timbermaniac> Does anybody have a favourite remote viewer that works well on Xubuntu (for active local x11 session) ?
[15:23] <timbermaniac> server, rather
[15:31] <baizon> timbermaniac: x11vnc
[15:31] <baizon> timbermaniac: more here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[15:35] <timbermaniac> baizon: thanks. I have tried that on a local connection but was wondering if there was something with beter performance over WAN. I tried freeNX but it didn't work out so well
[15:35] <timbermaniac> better*
[15:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. anyone here playing ddo/lotro via wine? I'm '' this close to being done, I just need a modern patchclient.dll.... any care to assist?
[16:14] <brainwashed> ntzrmtthihu777, try #winehq
[16:15] <brainwashed> ntzrmtthihu777, i actually used to play lotro, isn't the patchclient.dll delivered by turbine?
[16:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> brainwashed: I'm in that channel, no reply. yes, but I have no windows box to get the newest with.
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> brainwashed: I don't suppose you still have that dll laying around :P
[16:48] <brainwashed> ntzrmtthihu777, no :(
[16:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> dang, lol. well I've been installing a winxp vm all this while, so I should be able to get it, mebbe.
[16:51] <brainwashed> ntzrmtthihu777, so the turbine launcher still doesn't work? never actually used pylotro, only a shell script for updating/connecting to the server
[16:52] <brainwashed> that's offtopic anyway :P
[16:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, the turbine one still is crap.
[17:19] <xubuntuRSA> Hi. Any help would be much appreciated. I have recently installed Xubuntu 13.04 and am very happy with it. The only issue I have is I cannot connect and stream music to my belkin bluetooth audio reciever. I get the error: stream setup failed. In the past the bluetooth manager (in mint) never requested a password and it worked fine. Is there anything I can try to get this working. I am currently using blueman. Many thanks
[17:33] <dreki> Can anyone tell me what pkages would get uninstalled if I did "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio"? I did that in an effort to reinstall pulse and now i cant figure out which package puts the indicator on the panel.
[17:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> dreki: the volume indicator?
[17:34] <dreki> yeah
[17:34] <dreki> packages*
[17:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> xfce4-mixer
[17:35] <ochosi> ntzrmtthihu777: nah, it's indicator-sound
[17:35] <ochosi> (xfce4-mixer doesn't really work with pulseaudio, as it's written for gstreamer)
[17:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> ochosi: may be so, but I got the xfce4-mixer installed, and I have it now.
[17:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> whereas before I did not. Not that I really need it, just a perk.
[17:38] <dreki> well i already had indicator-sound reinstalled but still no sound icon on my bar. What should i try next?
[17:38] <ochosi> dreki: in that case you might have to add the indicator-plugin to the panel
[17:38] <ochosi> dreki: right-click the panel > add new item > indicator plugin
[17:39] <ochosi> or maybe indicator-sound-gtk2 isn't installed. that's more precisely the package you need
[17:39] <ochosi> also: restart panel just in case (xfce4-panel --restart)
[17:40] <dreki> oh i dont have the gtk2 one. what is indicator-sound then?
[17:40] <ochosi> the general and gtk3 package
[17:40] <ochosi> g2g, bbl
[17:40] <dreki> do i need it?
[17:43] <dreki> thanks ochosi if you are still reading this, that fixed it.
[20:00] <emif-> guys any idea how to update bios?
[21:03] <kblin> hi folks
[21:04] <knome> hello
[21:04] <kblin> I'm trying to drive an external display from my thinkpad on 13.04. so far it's not working
[21:04] <kblin> any debugging hints?
[21:07] <kblin> hm, durn
[21:07] <kblin> I just sucessfully disabled the laptop screen in X, without getting an image on the external screen
[21:08] <kblin> and the x-display-manager appears to have crashed, because the timeout that's supposed to reset the display doesn't seem to kick in
[21:10] <kblin> what was the X command to reset this? xfce-display-settings wants a display name, but how do I get that?
[21:21] <kblin> hm, so xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto doesn't get me any output on the external display either
[21:22] <kblin> ah, there we go, monitor not set to auto mode :/