[00:01] <kakemann> Hi, can anyone take a look at bug 380161 ? I have been able to confirm it, do I need to gather any more information, or should I take it upstream?
[00:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380161 in audacious "audacious won't 'display track information'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380161
[00:02] <bencrisford> kakemann: Ill take a look ;)
[00:03] <kakemann> thanks
[00:04] <bencrisford> kakemann: All the important stuff is there
[00:04] <bencrisford> its a pretty neat bug report as far as i can see
[00:04] <bencrisford> hmm
[00:04] <kakemann> ok, I'll try to post it, and they will probably ask it they need more info
[00:05] <bencrisford> yeah
[00:05] <bencrisford> its a bit dodgy what with it only happening when you hit X
[00:05] <bencrisford> but it should work anyway
[00:05] <bencrisford> especially if the close button isnt that prominent
[00:05] <bencrisford> but its worth asking him if he gets the problem when he hits "Close Window" kakemann
[00:06] <kakemann> ok, I'll do that
[00:06] <bencrisford> ok ^^
[00:11] <hggdh> kakemann, please, after filing a bug upstream, update the bug on the "also affects" with the upstream bug #
[00:11] <kakemann> will do :)
[00:14] <hggdh> thank you :-)
[00:16] <hggdh> kakemann, BTW -- when you open an upstream bug, please add to it the link to our bug, so that upstream can look at it (if they feel the need, of course)
[00:16] <kakemann> hmmmm, I tried to add the link to the bug, but I get an error saying lauchpad does not recognize the tracker
[00:16] <hggdh> and, again, THANK YOU for helping
[00:16] <hggdh> you should have an option to add the URL
[00:18] <kakemann> here is the link : http://redmine.atheme.org/issues/show/103
[00:19] <kakemann> I get an error when I try to add it:
[00:19] <kakemann> Launchpad does not recognize the bug tracker at this URL.
[00:20] <hggdh> weird. kakemann, can you give me the upstream bug link? I will try it here
[00:20] <kakemann> here is the link : http://redmine.atheme.org/issues/show/103
[00:20] <hggdh> duh
[00:20] <hggdh> really, really getting tired
[00:22] <kakemann> hehe
[00:22] <hggdh> yeah, seems LP is slightly lost
[00:23] <hggdh> oh
[00:23] <hggdh> heh. kakemann, redmine is deprecated...
[00:23] <hggdh> you should file the bug on http://jira.atheme.org/
[00:24] <hggdh> but, still, LP is wrong
[00:25] <hggdh> OTH, jira seems to be empty
[00:25] <hggdh> oy vey...
[00:25] <kakemann> yeah, I look in jira, but I did'nt see any bugs, so i figured they had'nt moved yet
[00:26] <hggdh> ah well. Do it, right now, by selecting "I just want to register...", and add the bug link as a comment
[00:26] <hggdh> or you want me to do that?
[00:27] <kakemann> in LP?
[00:27] <hggdh> yes
[00:27] <kakemann> ok, done
[00:28] <hggdh> kakemann, thank you for your help
[00:28] <hggdh> darn! still to be looked at is LP...
[00:29] <kakemann> thanks for your help
[00:33] <Pfiffer> Could someone mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/381416 as wishlist?
[00:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381416 in notify-osd "Jaunty's notify-osd should have a close button" [Undecided,New]
[00:35] <kakemann> hggdh: how do I mark this bug as triaged?
[00:36] <Ampelbein> Pfiffer: done
[00:37] <Pfiffer> Ampelbein: Thanks
[00:37] <Ampelbein> Pfiffer: you're welcome, thanks for helping out.
[00:59] <kklimonda> heh... I couldn't connect for 2 hours..
[01:02] <kakemann> should bug 379942 and bug 381105 be considered duplicates since they both invove breaking of urls containing special characters even though one is for ftp links and one is for http links?
[01:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379942 in evolution "special characters ends http link in evolution" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379942
[01:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381105 in evolution "Handling of ftp links containing username and password" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381105
[01:02] <kklimonda> hggdh: are you online?
[01:02] <kklimonda> or anyone from bug control?
[01:03] <kklimonda> i need somebody to check bug 381504 and see if it contains all data for apport-retrace to generate backtrace..
[01:03] <ubot4> kklimonda: Bug 381504 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/381504 is private
[01:03] <hggdh> kklimonda, I am here
[01:04] <hggdh> kklimonda, we will not have access to the bug until apport-retrace ands with it (and subscribe us)
[01:04] <kklimonda> i see
[01:04] <hggdh> if it was created via apport, then it should have what it takes
[01:05] <hggdh> kakemann, I will mark it triaged. You need to be a member of bug-control to do that
[01:05] <kklimonda> thanks
[01:06] <hggdh> kakemann, what would you set as Importance there?
[01:06] <kakemann> I figured something like that since I didnt see the triaged status, thanks :)
[01:07] <kakemann> sorry, hmm, Low since it's an easy work around, use the close button
[01:07] <hggdh> kakemann, done, thanks
[01:08] <kakemann> thanks :)
[01:09] <hggdh> kakemann, now I will have a look at the Evo bugs you pointed out
[01:10] <kakemann> ok
[01:10] <hggdh> yeee. The special character issue with URLs is also present on LP ;-)
[01:10] <kakemann> hehe
[01:11] <kakemann> it handles the "_" but not the "ø"
[01:12] <kklimonda> hggdh: what do you think about bug 381490 - it's triaged as debian has already bug report ready but I wonder about severity..
[01:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381490 in xdg-user-dirs "xdg-user-dirs has no man pages; URL in README is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381490
[01:13] <kklimonda> without manpages and with broken link to documentation it's hard to tell how to use those programs..
[01:14] <kklimonda> xdg-user-dirs-update has at least some --help but xdg-user-dir --help prints out: "-help_DIR:-/home/kklimonda" ;)
[01:15] <kklimonda> is it Low Importance neverthkess?
[01:15] <kklimonda> nevertheless
[01:20] <hggdh> I would say so, kklimonda
[01:20] <hggdh> it is not a critical issue
[01:21] <hggdh> kakemann, I have to walk the dogs now, will be back in 1 hour
[01:21] <bcurtiswx> hddgh is one busy individual
[01:21] <kakemann> then I will be asleep i hope, it's 02.21 AM her now :D
[01:21] <kklimonda> hggdh: it also isn't enough for Medium as a user can use internet to find documentation?
[01:23] <kakemann> hggdh: I can ask in the upstream bug if they consider it the same problem, or if they want me to open 2 seperate bugs for them
[01:23] <kklimonda> hggdh: then can you mark it triaged/low ?
[01:25] <hggdh> kklimonda, I will
[01:25] <kklimonda> thanks
[01:26] <hggdh> kakemann, yes, you can (and you will also find me there ;-)
[01:26] <hggdh> brb
[01:39] <bcurtiswx> maco: ping
[01:45] <bcurtiswx> hmm, is it bad that I tried to save my ubuntu wiki page using cntrl+s ?

[02:02] <bcurtiswx> anyone know when the American Regional Board meeting.. their wiki is un-informational
[02:02] <bcurtiswx> meeting is*
[02:59] <torkiano> Can anyone take a look at bug 379971 ? How can I triage it?
[02:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379971 in aspell "Turkish is always listed in GTK apps even when not installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379971
[03:02] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: do you have an example app that does this?
[03:02] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, empathy, as the reporter said
[03:03] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: yeah so much for my great browsing skills .. sorry lol
[03:06] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: hmm, yeah if they tested it on Fedora with it not being a problem, it may be with gtkspell or aspell
[03:07] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: im not sure, is aspell or gtkspell an ubuntu only app ?
[03:07] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, as far I know, no
[03:08] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, aspell is a gnu program: http://aspell.net/
[03:12] <bcurtiswx> hmm, based on the package descriptions on packages.ubuntu.com it seems as if gtkspell checks for the mispelled word and is there to highlight it, while aspell provides the spell check itself
[03:13] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: i could be wrong, but if im any bit close, then i believe reporting the bug against aspell is the way to go
[03:15] <bcurtiswx> now for triaging after finding the right package.
[03:18] <bcurtiswx> there isn't really a way i can think of for aspell other than getting ubuntu version, package version from the reporter
[03:18] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, Can you set the importance, then?Or Is it necessary more information?
[03:18] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: you can also report the bug upstream
[03:19] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: i can set importance.. which do you think it needs?
[03:21] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, low, maybe?
[03:22] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: i agree that its low, its more of a cosmetic bug
[03:22] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: any questions about reporting upstream?
[03:23] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, yeah, and It's on a non-core application
[03:23] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: exactly
[03:24] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: once pushed upstream let me know and I can mark it triaged
[03:24] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, ok, thank you!
[03:25] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: you are welcome ... and thank you, pushing bugs upstream is a great thing to do :)
[03:29] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, done
[03:32] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: set, thx
[03:33] <torkiano> bcurtiswx, thank you for your support and your time. Time to go to bed ;) bye!
[03:33] <bcurtiswx> torkiano: thanks for triaging.. goodnight
[04:05] <hggdh> kklimonda, still there?
[04:05] <kklimonda> yeah
[04:07] <hggdh> OK, so bug 381490 should be medium, correct?
[04:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381490 in xdg-user-dirs "xdg-user-dirs has no man pages; URL in README is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381490
[04:07] <kklimonda> no, i think we decided it's low
[04:08] <hggdh> I had proposed low, but you countered that
[04:08] <hggdh> and I think I agree with you: if no man pages are available, at least the link should be correct
[04:09] <hggdh> kklimonda, the package is synced or merged from Debian?
[04:10] <kklimonda> it's merged
[04:10] <hggdh> ok. then we could even have a local temp patch...
[04:10] <hggdh> medium, deal?
[04:10] <kklimonda> ok
[04:10] <kklimonda> :)
[04:11] <hggdh> done.
[04:11] <kklimonda> thanks
[04:11] <kklimonda> hggdh: you are somehow working on evolution bugs?
[04:11] <hggdh> kklimonda, whenever I have time, yes
[04:12] <kklimonda> is bug 381144 a duplicate?
[04:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381144 in evolution "evolution crashed segfault in libc-2.9.so" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381144
[04:12] <kklimonda> hmm
[04:12] <kklimonda> not this
[04:12] <kklimonda> bug 381144
[04:12] <hggdh> kakemann, I agree that the evo bugs on URL pretty much point to the same issue
[04:12] <kklimonda> argh..
[04:13]  * hggdh waits... :-D
[04:13] <kklimonda> check out bug 381504 again - it was already retraced by apport
[04:13] <ubot4> kklimonda: Bug 381504 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/381504 is private
[04:13] <hggdh> looking
[04:14] <kklimonda> (it was also public for a while, probably marked private because bug control hadn't checked it and it contains email address)
[04:16] <hggdh> the reporter marked it public, then backtracked
[04:16] <kklimonda> also it is similar to bug 359658 so maybe we could assign it to evolution-indicator
[04:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 359658 in evolution-indicator "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359658
[04:17] <hggdh> let me look at it
[04:17] <kklimonda> (I think they may be even connected somehow but It's already late and reading stacktraces is like swimming in pool of goo ;))
[04:20] <hggdh> the stacktraces seem similar (top 3 frames): IA__g_str_equal, org_gnome_mail_new_notify, epl_invoke
[04:20] <hggdh> yeah
[04:22] <hggdh> kklimonda, so now we should check with the reporter if the new evol-indicator has been installed...
[04:22] <kklimonda> the new evol-indi is only for karmic
[04:23] <hggdh> ah
[04:23] <kklimonda> we could ask him to get it from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ted/+archive/bugfix PPA
[04:23] <kklimonda> Ted has prepared package for Jaunty
[04:23] <hggdh> K, I will ask the reporter, and mark it as a possible-dup
[04:24] <kklimonda> thanks
[04:24] <hggdh> kklimonda, when are you going to join us at -control? ;-)
[04:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: Soon, asking you guys for help with every bug is getting tiresome :)
[04:24] <hggdh> heh
[04:25] <kklimonda> hggdh: not that I don't like working with you, I'll also ask for help - but some bugs are easy to triage :)
[04:25] <hggdh> :-)
[04:30] <hggdh> OK, I have asked the reporter to test. Let's see what happens now
[06:20] <YoBoY> hi
[08:12] <maco> bcurtiswx, it was 2am here when you pinged, now its 3am where you are :P
[11:55] <Farssi> Hi I found while configuring my server that the default configuration in /etc/host.conf included the line "order hosts,bind" which should be "order hosts bind". Where should I file a bug report for this?
[12:00] <bencrisford> Farssi: Hmmm...
[12:00] <bencrisford> Just under Ubuntu I would think
[12:00] <bencrisford> I could be wrong
[12:03] <Hobbsee> sarah@pluto:~% dpkg -S /etc/host.conf                                    9:03PM
[12:03] <Hobbsee> base-files: /etc/host.conf
[12:03] <Hobbsee> sarah@pluto:~% madison base-files                                        9:03PM
[12:03] <Hobbsee> base-files |   5ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[12:03] <Hobbsee> base-files |   5ubuntu4 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Sources
[12:03] <Hobbsee> so, base-files, please
[12:04] <Hobbsee> (as that's what is generating the file)
[12:08] <bencrisford> !base-files
[12:08] <ubot4> Factoid 'base-files' not found
[12:08] <Hobbsee> !info base-files
[12:08] <ubot4> Hobbsee: base-files (source: base-files): Debian base system miscellaneous files. In component main, is required. Version 5ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 64 kB, installed size 452 kB
[12:09] <bencrisford> oh, ty :)
[12:09] <Hobbsee> y/w :)
[12:09] <bencrisford> Hobbsee: Nice work, but in future you may wanna pastebin that sorta thing
[12:09] <bencrisford> because alot of copy/pasteing can flood the channel :/
[12:10] <Hobbsee> i could.
[12:10] <Hobbsee> however, it's 5 lines, and pastebins are a pain, and it's a quiet channel
[12:10] <Farssi> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:15] <bencrisford> Hobbsee: Yeah I guess, but it is good practice :)
[12:58] <bencrisford_> Anyone know how I  get the user list to show in xchat?
[12:59] <bcurtiswx> maco: ping again (maybe the times right)
[13:07] <bencrisford_> Anyone know how to show the user list in xchat?
[17:44] <G__81> hi hggdh
[17:47] <YoBoY> hi, one question about support (and LTS ans Kubuntu), i just see kubuntu 8.04 is not marked LTS (i lag i konw) what's the meaning of this for the support time and bug triage process, and how to identify the package who are no more supported ? if someone can point me to the right doc for that :p
[17:48] <YoBoY> same question about difference between a desktop and a serveur packages...
[18:07] <asomething> YoBoY: I'm not sure about kubuntu but 8.04 desktop is supported till 2011 and server till 2013 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[18:09] <YoBoY> asomething: yes i know, but for exemple the 6.06 desktop support is stopping next month, how i identify what is desktop and what is serveur? only the need of X ?
[18:12] <asomething> hmmm... good point. as we haven't had a LTS reach EOL yet, I'm not sure. this is definitely something that needs to be clarified.
[18:12] <hggdh> where's G_81? Ah, gone. Ah well.
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> is it just me or is launchpad completely unusable today?
[18:39] <kklimonda> yeah
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> it's just me or launchpad is unusable?
[18:40] <Pici> Unusable.
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> thanks:)
[18:49] <bencrisford1> chriscoulsen: edge is working fine for me as far as i can tell
[18:49] <bencrisford1> chrisccoulsen: *
[18:50] <bencrisford1> chrisccoulson: * ^^
[18:51] <bencrisford1> bdmurray: ping
[18:52] <Pici> Wasn't for me a few minutes ago... *checks*
[18:52] <bencrisford1> :/
[18:54] <Pici> I'm at 2 and half minutes and it still hasn'
[18:55] <Pici> t loaded all the images on my user page
[18:55] <bencrisford1> you using edge.launchpad.net?
[18:55] <bencrisford1> or just launchpad.net?
[18:56] <Pici> edge.
[18:59] <bencrisford1> Hmm :/
[19:24] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[19:24] <kklimonda> ohayou
[19:26] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hey
[19:26] <YoBoY> olá BUGabundo
[19:26] <BUGabundo> missed you all
[19:26] <BUGabundo> busy couple of days!
[19:27] <kklimonda> :)
[19:27] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: hey. fixed a couple things on your wiki page
[19:27]  * BUGabundo ppl should *read* before posting
[19:27]  * BUGabundo _looks in the mirror_
[19:28] <kklimonda> *whistles*
[19:35] <bencrisford1> BUGabundo: Oh?  What did you fix?
[19:35] <bencrisford1> :)
[19:36] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: aren't you subscribed to your own wiki ??
[19:36] <BUGabundo> lol
[19:37]  * BUGabundo thinks of trashing it then
[19:37] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: see the diff
[19:37] <bencrisford1> eerrr
[19:37]  * BUGabundo filing a bzr bug with the longest subject *ever*
[19:38] <bencrisford1> BUGabundo: what did you change? :P
[19:38] <BUGabundo> bencrisford1: see the diff
[19:39] <bencrisford1> i see :)
[19:39] <bencrisford1> oh thanks (Y)
[19:39]  * BUGabundo bug subject is so big, LP timedout
[19:39] <bencrisford1> :P
[19:40] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: LP is timeouting all the time today..
[19:41] <BUGabundo> ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:41] <BUGabundo> so its not me
[19:44] <BUGabundo> filed, after 3 page refreshes
[19:44] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/381736
[19:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381736 in bzr "version is (1, 15, 0), and the maximum is (1, 15, 0)" [Undecided,New]
[19:48] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: it worked fine :D
[19:48] <kklimonda> and my bzr is older then yours :)
[19:50] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: as usual, I'm using beta
[19:50] <kklimonda> :)
[19:50] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you really have a lot of patience :)
[19:51] <BUGabundo> had to downgrade to karmic
[21:11] <BUGabundo> [OT] how many users here have signed their CoC ? https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1
[22:02] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: I have
[22:03] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: eheh
[22:03] <BUGabundo> you need to , to apply for membership
[22:04] <bencrisford> yeah I know :)
[22:05] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: btw, how long have you been contributing to ubuntu before applying for membership?
[22:05] <BUGabundo> me??
[22:05] <BUGabundo> since 2007 I guess
[22:05] <BUGabundo> or even 2006
[22:06] <kklimonda> nice :)
[22:06] <BUGabundo> of course not always *as* active as now....
[22:06] <BUGabundo> but its like wine, time makes it better
[22:06] <kklimonda> :D
[22:08] <BUGabundo> you ?
[22:10] <kklimonda> well, I'm active on LP for last few months - it's somehow correlated to taking my meds.. yummy pills.. earlier I was mostly jumping from board to board helping various people. :)
[22:10] <BUGabundo> ahaahaahahahahahahahahaha
[22:21] <dupondje> what u need to do if u fixed a bug ?
[22:22] <dupondje> copy/paste the debdiff to the bugreport or ?
[22:22] <kklimonda> dupondje: what bug? is it in stable release or in development?
[22:22] <dupondje> stable
[22:23] <kklimonda> !sru | dupondje
[22:23] <ubot4> dupondje: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:23] <kklimonda> you must follow a procedure outlined there
[22:24] <dupondje> its prolly not important enough to get into stable :)
[22:25] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:26] <dupondje> its https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/307667
[22:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 307667 in dutch "Spelling checker does nothing because nl_BE spelling is missing or isn't configured by default" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:28] <dupondje> so where to put the fix ? ;)
[22:28] <kklimonda> you can attach debdiff to this report
[22:29] <BUGabundo> dupondje: that one should be fixed
[22:29] <BUGabundo> its a minor impact dough
[22:29] <bencrisford> bdmurray: ping
[22:29] <BUGabundo> then again so is the fix
[22:29] <dupondje> debdiff in file form ?
[22:29] <dupondje> or just c/p ?
[22:30] <bencrisford> dupondje: Remember to tick the box "This attatchment is a patch"
[22:30] <kklimonda> dupondje: yes - as an attachment
[22:31] <dupondje> added :)
[22:31] <kklimonda> dupondje: also subscribe ubuntu-sru to this bug and
[22:31] <kklimonda> and.. and.. i forgot what I was going to write..
[22:31] <dupondje> :p
[22:31] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: :ppp
[22:34] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: just replied to a bug on LP with my @ubuntu address
[22:34] <BUGabundo> and it worked
[22:34] <BUGabundo> YAY
[22:35] <kklimonda> :)
[22:39] <hggdh> finally...
[22:39] <BUGabundo> hggdh: woot
[22:39] <BUGabundo> [[]] Carlos
[22:40] <hggdh> [[]]
[22:40] <hggdh> or {[]...[]}
[22:41] <dupondje> its time to kill the bugs :P
[22:53] <kklimonda> hmm.. are there any plans to keep apport enabled for KK? I was thinking maybe create a black list of source packages that are excluded from reporting (for example firefox)..
[22:53] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: mine already is
[22:53] <BUGabundo> hehe
[22:53] <BUGabundo> hey bcurtiswx
[22:53] <bcurtiswx> hi BUGabundo
[22:53] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you use development version
[22:53] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I was thinking about keeping it enabled after release..
[22:54] <dupondje> incoming = ~<your_launchpad_id>/<ppa_name>/ubuntu/ for https://launchpad.net/~dupondje/+archive/ppa = ~dupondje/dupondje/ubuntu ?
[22:54] <kklimonda> I know, devs says that most crashes are hammered during testing..
[22:55] <maxb> No, ~dupondje/ppa/ubuntu
[22:55] <dupondje> mmm k :)
[22:56] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: ahhh
[22:57] <BUGabundo> there was some discusiong about that already
[22:57] <dupondje> it takes some time before it gets shown in the ppa ? :)
[22:57] <BUGabundo> pitti is against it
[22:57] <kklimonda> dupondje: a while
[22:57] <BUGabundo> but feel free to raise it again
[22:57] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: what are pros and cons?
[22:57] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: no idea
[22:57] <BUGabundo> lousy memory, remember?
[22:57] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: Can I read about it somewhere?
[22:57] <kklimonda> :)
[22:57] <kklimonda> sorry, i forgot (sic) ;)
[22:57] <BUGabundo> google it or manually search the ML
[22:58] <BUGabundo> -devel or -devel-discuss
[22:58] <BUGabundo> not sure
[22:58] <kklimonda> ach, I've found it
[22:59] <kklimonda> "The problem is mainly that we do not want to create the false assumption that the current small team could handle all incoming crash reports from millions of users of stable release"
[22:59] <BUGabundo> woo that was fast
[22:59] <BUGabundo> its true
[22:59] <kklimonda> I got lucky
[22:59] <BUGabundo> poor bug squad
[22:59] <dupondje> kklimonda:  we talk about minuts/hours ? :)
[22:59] <kklimonda> dupondje: minutes
[23:19] <taxman> Hi, I linked an external project in my launchpad bug (Bug #381429), but upstream changed it to a related project. I Don't see how to change the also affects in launchpad, or how to delete it and add another. Is there a way?
[23:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 381429 in vte "gnome-terminal doesn't handle Unicode complex text rendering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381429
[23:19] <taxman> sorry to bug, just trying to learn this stuff so I can be useful some day
[23:20] <bencrisford> taxman: I'll take a look ;)
[23:20] <taxman> tx muchly
[23:22] <bencrisford> Underneath the info bar at the top
[23:22] <bencrisford> where it has status, importance etc
[23:22] <bencrisford> it should say also effects?
[23:24] <taxman> yes, but when I click the arrow to pull it down, it doesn't give me a way to change it for the external prject line (the first one)
[23:24] <bencrisford> You want to remove the gnome-terminal listing?
[23:24] <taxman> yes and change it to vte with the same bug number, since that's what upstream changed it to
[23:25] <bencrisford> well they are both on the same bug report
[23:25] <bencrisford> but if you change the gnome-terminal line to invalid
[23:25] <bencrisford> and the other kept the same
[23:25] <bencrisford> it will mark the gnome-terminal "bit of it" invalid
[23:26] <taxman> but then there will be no link to upstream unless I file a new one to vte, right?
[23:26] <bencrisford> well vte is in that report, hang on let me just check something
[23:26] <bencrisford> !vte
[23:26] <ubot4> Factoid 'vte' not found
[23:26] <bencrisford> !info vte
[23:26] <ubot4> bencrisford: Package vte does not exist in jaunty
[23:27] <bencrisford> That IS odd :/
[23:27] <bencrisford> you are running jaunty right taxman?
[23:27] <taxman> yeah in ubuntu it's libvte9 and libvte-  a couple things.  Yes
[23:27] <kklimonda> !info libvte9
[23:27] <ubot4> kklimonda: libvte9 (source: vte): Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.20.0-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 585 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[23:28] <kklimonda> yeah, !info doesn't work for source packages
[23:28] <bencrisford> oh
[23:28] <bencrisford> woops
[23:28] <bencrisford> me and ubot4 are only just getting to know each other
[23:29] <taxman> ok, well as long as there isn't a way to change the description of the upstream link that I was missing. It would be a nice feature though
[23:30] <taxman> perhaps I should find where to file a launchpad feature request
[23:30] <bencrisford> drift over to #launchpad :)
[23:30] <bencrisford> they'll know
[23:31] <kklimonda> taxman: maybe it will get updated later? bugwatches tend to lag behind.
[23:31] <kklimonda> oh, it was changes 2 days ago
[23:32] <taxman> bencrisford: I'll try that
[23:36] <bencrisford> :)
[23:36] <taxman> thanks guys
[23:37] <taxman> or gals :)
[23:37] <taxman> uh well at most singular if both, you get the idea :)
[23:41] <bencrisford> taxman: :P np
[23:41] <bencrisford> :S Its my membership meeting next week kklimonada
[23:42] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: already?
[23:42] <BUGabundo> lucky
[23:42] <bencrisford> I know :)
[23:42] <BUGabundo> mine took 2 months to get on calendar
[23:42] <bencrisford> i applied on the 17th
[23:43] <bencrisford> in fact i dont know if im on a calendar of such?
[23:43] <bencrisford> i put my name in the table?  is that not it
[23:43] <bencrisford> :S
[23:43] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: What calendar?
[23:44] <BUGabundo> naaa
[23:44] <BUGabundo> just wanted to say, until it got a date for the meeting
[23:45] <bencrisford> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[23:45] <bencrisford> it says first tuesday of every month
[23:45] <bencrisford> will i not be in that meeting? =S
[23:46] <bencrisford> BUGabundo: ?
[23:47] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: it wasn't like that when I applied
[23:47] <kklimonda> bencrisford: There are a lot of candidates on this list, it may be that your application will be delayed (I know that MOTU council does it if they can't proceed all applications in under an hour)
[23:47] <BUGabundo> plus some times there's no quorum
[23:47] <bencrisford> ok :/
[23:47] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: that happened to me
[23:47] <bencrisford> but apparently its not long considering each applicant
[23:47] <BUGabundo> I was the 5th and it lasted over 2h
[23:47] <BUGabundo> so I got reshudled
[23:47] <BUGabundo> that's why my application took so long
[23:48] <BUGabundo> that, I missing one of the meeting
[23:48] <bencrisford> oh
[23:48] <bencrisford> thats not good then
[23:48] <bencrisford> because i can only stay an hour :S
[23:49] <bencrisford> im 6th :/
[23:49] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: then be prepared to wait a while
[23:49]  * kklimonda sighs..
[23:49] <kklimonda> I think it's time to start working on my wiki page..
[23:50] <kklimonda> I'd like to get universe contributor before KK is released..
[23:52] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/68020
[23:52] <BUGabundo> "Could I just ask what Alcohol1120% is and how do I uninstall it??"
[23:52] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL
[23:52] <bencrisford> i thought universe contributor was replaced with revu uploaders?
[23:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 68020 in azureus "Azureus crashes just after startup (attempt to show sliding notification window) (dup-of: 57875)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[23:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 57875 in azureus "Azureus hangs or crashes showing splash screen at start" [High,Fix released]
[23:52] <kklimonda> bencrisford: nope - it's still here
[23:52] <bencrisford> oh
[23:53]  * bencrisford wants that too i guess
[23:53] <kklimonda> well, it's called "Ubuntu Contributing Developer"
[23:54] <bencrisford> yah


[01:15] <bazhang> blendmaster1024, how can we help you?
[01:19] <IdleOne> blendmaster1024: I'm sure you are aware of the no idle rule for this channel. in case you aren't, we have a NO idling rule for this channel. Please state your business or part now. Thanks
[01:19] <blendmaster1024> huh?
[01:20] <blendmaster1024> how am i in here again?
[01:20] <blendmaster1024> sorry i didn't even know i was in here.
[02:50] <IdleOne> bazhang: rude? never seen that
[02:51] <funkyHat> I seem to have had a netsplit all on my own :!
[02:51] <bazhang> IdleOne, he/she insisted that chatting about support was the same as chatting about steam for linux
[02:51] <IdleOne> yeah just read back
[02:52] <bazhang> I guess that qualifies as rude, then; asking her/him to stop and him/her refusing to follow the channel guidelines
[02:52] <IdleOne> he seems ok now. just was in the wrong channel.
[02:52] <IdleOne> I gather he is new to irc
[02:52] <IdleOne> or seems from what he said about sticking to forums
[02:53] <IdleOne> funkyHat: you on that secret freenode server alone again?
[02:53] <funkyHat> IdleOne: looks like it
[02:54] <IdleOne> funkyHat: was you, maco and ubuntulog that split
[02:54] <IdleOne> actualy not maco
[02:54] <IdleOne> you and the bot heh
[02:54] <funkyHat> aw. I was just about to say yay I'm not alone.
[02:55] <funkyHat> Maybe this server isn't on the round robin dns or something
[02:56] <IdleOne> calvino should be
[02:56] <IdleOne> add a , in there
[02:56] <funkyHat> ~99% of #ubuntu aren't on it either, it seems
[02:57] <IdleOne> I just use irc.freenode.net where ever it sends me I am usualy fine
[02:57] <funkyHat> I have a bunch of freenode servers configured individually in irssi
[02:58] <IdleOne> today I am in France
[02:58] <IdleOne> try barjavel.freenode.net
[02:59] <funkyHat> And lose my uptime? nowai!
[02:59] <IdleOne> haha
[03:02] <bazhang>  [mininessie]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>seems to be trolling
[03:02] <Seeker`> bets on how old Kjixill  is?
[03:02] <IdleOne> 13
[04:53] <bazhang> |_ocke is unbanned in -ot ?
[04:59] <IdleOne> not according to bt
[05:01] <IdleOne> unless I am reading it wrong
[05:01] <bazhang> I just see removals from here, #ubuntu and -ot
[05:02] <IdleOne> 21180?
[05:03] <bazhang> I see 21181 no 21180
[05:04] <IdleOne> http://ubottu.com/bans.cgi?channel=&operator=&query=|_ocke&kicks=on&bans=on&oldbans=on&mutes=on&oldmutes=on&floodbots=on
[05:04] <IdleOne> errr
[11:14] <erUSUL> 12:13  * AmberJ Gets erUSUL sa <%)
[11:15] <erUSUL> 12:14  * AmberJ Gets erUSUL es <%)
[11:15] <erUSUL> bot in the channel ...
[11:20] <jussi> erUSUL: which channel?
[11:20] <erUSUL> #ubuntu
[11:20] <erUSUL> is a script the nick is a person ... ;)
[11:20] <erUSUL> 12:17 < AmberJ> Gryllida: Yeah. sorry..mistakenly loaded that script
[11:20] <jussi> erUSUL: you are better off jumping into #ubuntu-ops for reporting stuff in #ubuntu. just remember to part afterwards
[11:21] <erUSUL> !?
[11:21]  * erUSUL looks around; ....
[11:21] <erUSUL> this channel is #ubuntu-ops
[11:21] <jussi> lol
[11:21] <jussi> Im sorry
[11:22] <erUSUL> anyway i'm off
[11:22] <jussi> see you
[11:22]  * jussi blushes
[11:22] <jpds> jussi: At least you have 1Mbps.
[11:22] <erUSUL> tired to be pushed out of here anytime i try to be of any help
[13:45] <Blockcold> ikonia, mind you bussiness here
[13:46] <ikonia> what ?
[13:46] <Blockcold> why are you annoying me in other channels ?
[13:46] <ikonia> errrr I'm not
[13:46] <Blockcold> in past i give you the  warning that don't annoy me another channel ?
[13:47] <Blockcold> now you are trolling here
[13:47] <bazhang> Blockcold, did you wish to discuss your bans?
[13:47] <ikonia> Blockcold: this channel is only used to discuss your bans in #ubuntu
[13:47] <ikonia> anything else please leave the channel
[13:48] <Blockcold> ikonia, is your last chance mind it !
[13:48] <ikonia> Blockcold: bye now
[13:48] <bazhang> why does he still have a cloak?
[13:48] <ikonia> I've spoke to staff about it, it's up to them what they do
[13:49] <bazhang> btw Iraqi just got a cloak
[13:49] <gnomefreak> why isnt he banned would be a better question, it seems he has no plan on changing
[13:49] <bazhang> gnomefreak, he is, in #ubuntu
[13:49] <ikonia> bazhang: that's fine, he's entitled to one
[13:49] <gnomefreak> bazhang: here i meant
[13:50] <gnomefreak> forward him to #ubuntu-irc maybe
[13:50] <gnomefreak> or to /dev/null
[13:50] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:50] <ikonia> naughty
[13:51] <bazhang> there used to be a channel youvegottobekiddingme iirc
[13:51] <gnomefreak> disterbing this channel should be kept to a min.
[13:51] <marienz> bazhang: still exists
[13:51] <bazhang> marienz, nice
[13:51] <marienz> bazhang: ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding iirc
[13:51] <gnomefreak> there is?
[13:51] <bazhang> haha
[13:52] <bazhang> I have no problem with Iraqi as long as he is running Ubuntu, and follows channel guidelines (ie being unbanned)
[13:52] <marienz> as far as I can tell iraqi is pretty recognizable both with and without a cloak
[13:52] <marienz> if that's not actually correct please let me know
[13:52] <bazhang> Blockcold, ban dodging again
[13:53] <bazhang> marienz, yes that's right
[13:53] <ikonia> speaking to staff now about progressing this
[13:53] <Blockcold> hi bazhang sup ikonia is annoying me in centos
[13:53] <bazhang> Blockcold, and you ban-evaded for the nth time
[13:53] <ikonia> ahh marienz is active in here, marienz I spoke to tomaw about Blockcold/jungli's multiple accounts and ban dodging
[13:53] <ikonia> he's just ban dodged again by using his cloak to hide ip
[13:53] <Blockcold> bazhang, i love centos from myheart
[13:54] <Blockcold> and this ikonia burm my love there :(
[13:54] <ikonia> marienz: can you please take this up with staff again please
[13:54] <gnomefreak> Blockcold: if you have nothing else please /part
[13:54] <Blockcold> but one question
[13:54] <Blockcold> plz answer
[13:54] <IdleOne> Blockcold: what ikonia does in channels that are not ubuntu related is his business and has nothing to do with this channel. Do you want to discuss why you were ban evading just now in #ubuntu?
[13:54] <marienz> ikonia: looking into it
[13:54] <IdleOne> Blockcold: FOREVER is the answer
[13:54] <ikonia> marienz: thank you,
[13:54] <gnomefreak> Blockcold: please /part on your own
[13:55] <Blockcold> why your ops i annoy me in another channel ?
[13:55] <ikonia> Blockcold: this is nothhing to do with ubuntu. Please leave the channel
[13:55] <gnomefreak> I am not and as for other channels do you have the channels and logs on what the ops are doing?
[13:56]  * gnomefreak has given you enough warnings
[13:57] <gnomefreak> he is start to annoy me now
[13:57] <gnomefreak> s/start/starting
[13:57] <IdleOne> just starting
[13:57] <ikonia> that's his intention. Staff are on it
[13:57] <IdleOne> Good morning btw
[13:57] <gnomefreak> staff can only really do what we do as in he can still dodge staffs ban
[13:58] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: morning
[13:58] <ikonia> gnomefreak: it's up to them how/what they do
[13:58] <marienz> this is strange, I'm not sure why he still has two cloaked accounts
[13:58] <marienz> I'm currently trying to figure that out
[13:58] <Pici> marienz: thanks for lookin into it
[13:58]  * gnomefreak only has 1
[13:58] <gnomefreak> how many could you need
[13:58] <IdleOne> Pici: msg?
[13:58] <ikonia> it's appreciated
[13:58] <Pici> IdleOne: always
[14:00] <Blockcold> wait!
[14:00] <bazhang> Blockcold, yes?
[14:00] <Blockcold> if have RHCe then why ppl annoying me ?
[14:00] <bazhang> Blockcold, did you wish to discuss your bans?
[14:00] <ikonia> Blockcold: again this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:00] <Blockcold> wait !
[14:01] <Blockcold> i come back in 20 min
[14:01] <ikonia> no
[14:01] <Blockcold> tea time now
[14:01] <Blockcold> sorry i ahve to go
[14:01] <ikonia> please leave the channel if you do not wish to discuss your ban
[14:01] <Blockcold> ikonia, you are Paranoid
[14:01] <ikonia> infact, someone else can deal with this, as it is as waste of time, I'm happy that staff are now looking into it
[14:02] <Blockcold> lememcome back agian
[14:02] <bazhang> Blockcold, please /part the channel
[14:02] <Blockcold> cya
[14:02] <jpds> ...
[14:02] <ikonia> it's a troll attempt
[14:03] <ikonia> he joins distro channels and says "I love you $different_distro_name"
[14:03] <bazhang> he brags about it openly, always has
[14:03] <ikonia> it's up to the other ops/staff now, it's too much time wasting to deal with this stupid circle
[14:04] <IdleOne> I was going to say, this circle with Jungli/Blockcold has not changed. Why do we still allow him to come here and aggravate us?
[14:05] <ikonia> because it's policy to allow someone to discuss/appeal their ban
[14:05] <bazhang> just change it to a straight ban imo
[14:05] <IdleOne> ikonia: and if the person has joined 20+ times and refuses to discuss the ban and continues to troll....
[14:05] <gnomefreak> maybe we should have the council deal with him if it keeps up. <ducks>
[14:05] <ikonia> IdleOne: yss
[14:06] <ikonia> for the record his current dodging address that he hid behind his cloak is <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:06] <ikonia> I believe he's just rejoined 14:06 -!- seanty<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[14:07] <ikonia> not %100
[14:07] <ikonia> probably not
[14:07] <IdleOne> ikonia: I think we should allow him one more chance to join here and discuss a resolution to his bans, provide links for guidelines, CoC, appeal if needed. If he does not want to discuss the ban in #u* then ban from here also (2 weeks?)
[14:07] <ikonia> IdleOne: that's not how it works
[14:07] <ikonia> and it's not our place to make that decision
[14:08] <ikonia> you'll have to contact the council explaining the issue and allow them to do it
[14:08] <gnomefreak> well im sure we can tell if it is him if he speaks
[14:08] <bazhang> no point in banning him from here
[14:08] <ikonia> it's not him
[14:08] <ikonia> that user has been around more
[14:08] <ikonia> I was over reacting
[14:08] <bazhang> if he evades, he always says hello to the latest person to ban him
[14:09] <jpds> bazhang: That's what he wants you to think.
[14:09] <gnomefreak> not even a temp ban?
[14:10] <gnomefreak> i would say forward him to #freenode, never a good idea though
[14:10] <IdleOne> I don't see why we can't set a temp ban on him here. He has proven on more then enough occasions to be a troll and refuses to even try to work with us.
[14:11] <marienz> gnomefreak: wouldn't work, I doubt we have #freenode +F
[14:11] <bazhang> either he'll straighten out, or he'll continue to escalate. we have done what we could imo
[14:11] <marienz> also, please prod me if jungli/blockcold joins and I miss it (I have those two nicks hilighted but he's used others)
[14:11] <bazhang> marienz, thansk very much
[14:11] <bazhang> err thanks
[14:12] <ikonia> marienz: ne0|penguin
[14:12] <gnomefreak> thanks
[14:12] <ikonia> oops, sorry, didn't mean to past ethe other lines
[14:14] <gnomefreak> we should really have a way to handle there types of things
[14:14] <ikonia> there is - follow the process
[14:14] <gnomefreak> those, and i meant a policy on how to handle it
[14:14] <ikonia> resolve ban, or escalate
[14:14] <marienz> bah, just missed him again
[14:14] <gnomefreak> ikonia: and how is that working for you ;)
[14:15] <ikonia> questionanible
[14:15] <gnomefreak> marienz: you are looking to talk to him?
[14:15] <marienz> gnomefreak: jungli/blockcold: yes
[14:16] <gnomefreak> marienz: good luck
[14:16] <marienz> thank you!
[14:16] <gnomefreak> your welcome
[14:16] <marienz> (I also have an Iraqi in #freenode, fun!)
[14:17] <gnomefreak> i know that nick (in lower case)
[14:17] <gnomefreak> he is another one just dont recall who it is
[14:19]  * gnomefreak be back in abit
[14:26] <Pici> That analogy is getting confusing.
[14:26] <Pici> s/getting//
[14:27] <IdleOne> the father/son one
[14:27] <Pici> Yes.
[14:28] <IdleOne> yeah he side tracked me and I lost my point
[14:28] <bazhang> I don't think we're helping at this point. It's like ganging up
[14:28] <IdleOne> but I think Avasz was almost where I was trying to go
[14:30] <marienz> hmm, I'm a little biased against Avasz because he used ctcp version as a reason for Iraqi to request a cloak in ##club-ubuntu
[14:30] <IdleOne> bazhang: I wasn't trying to attack but trying to explain in terms he may understand.
[14:30] <marienz> seems to be doing ok now though
[14:31] <bazhang> IdleOne, no, I didn't think you were, he just doesn't seem clear on resolving bans, and wants people to just /ignore him and allow to do as he pleases in any channel. afaik the only way to resolve bans is to speak the operators of the various channels ##linux , #backtrack-linux , etc and resolve it with them. freenode has nothing to do with that
[14:32] <ikonia> the big problem for the other channels was the illegal acivity
[14:32] <ikonia> asking how to get his neighbours wifi for free
[14:32] <marienz> I think we were doing a reasonable job trying to explain things to him, but the language barrier really isn't helping
[14:32] <bazhang> and just refusing to listen to any and all advice, warnings etc
[14:32] <ikonia> ##linux doesn't like that, #backtrack-linux didn't like their product being used for illegal stuff, #aircrack-ng didn't like it, there was a ton of channels
[14:33] <ikonia> the issue is, he thinks he's banned because ubuntu operators told the othe channels he's using back track and they hate back track
[14:33] <IdleOne> marienz: I don't think it is language barrier so much as a cultural one
[14:33] <marienz> that too, I suppose, although you would expect him to figure that out before getting himself banned from quite as many channels as I understand he has
[14:34] <ikonia> it's quite odd as he has a moral code that wont allow bad language, however it's fine with stealing peoples resources
[14:35] <ikonia> confusing fellow
[14:35] <IdleOne> I'll bet he has some sort of a barter system arranged with his neighbor.
[14:36] <ikonia> I don't think so
[14:36] <ikonia> he was quite explicit about getting it without his neighbour knowing
[14:36] <IdleOne> ahh
[14:38] <ikonia> his english was fine with that ;)
[14:38] <IdleOne> google translate must see theft the same way in all languages
[14:40] <IdleOne><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:43] <marienz> I saw
[14:45] <marienz> please let me (or some other staffer) know if jungli/blockcold/etc manages to get another account cloaked.
[14:45] <bazhang> he's made that promise more than a dozen times now
[14:45] <ikonia> marienz: heads up on blockcold
[14:45] <marienz> (jungli and blockcold are no longer cloaked)
[14:46] <jpds> ikonia: 14:43:04 <+marienz> I saw
[14:46] <ikonia> sorry
[14:47] <marienz> no problem, too many pings usually beats no pings
[15:05] <bazhang> ne0|penguin ban evading again
[15:06] <Pici> Are you sure?
[15:06] <Pici> Or were the other bans against his cloak?
[15:06] <bazhang> * ne0|penguin<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[15:06] <Pici> Well, that is a change in ident.
[15:08] <bazhang> it's him alright, and a slight change in ip address, there are others by a slightly different ip address and cloak, and nickname Jungli
[15:10] <marienz> that's the same ip that was just in #ubuntu-offtopic as blockcold, right?
[15:10] <bazhang> and as ne0|penguin a moment ago in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <Pici> Hes not banned in -offtopic iirc.
[15:11] <bazhang> nope
[15:22] <ikonia> he's back on as jungli now
[15:25] <jpds> We so need a Nagios instance that just SMSs us when people come on.
[15:26] <bazhang> xchat has no /watch afaict; konversation (my last client) did
[15:26] <ikonia> jpds: I'll get on that, it shouldn't be hard to write a perl poller for that
[15:27] <ikonia> jpds: I've got a nagios instance running, I'll set it up ;)
[15:56] <Jungli> sorry
[15:56] <IdleOne> for?
[15:56] <Jungli> i say sorry to all of you
[15:56] <bazhang> Jungli, for ban ban evading again?
[15:56] <Jungli> if i annoy some body
[15:56] <Jungli> yes bazhang
[15:57] <bazhang> Jungli, as user ne0|penguin ?
[15:57] <Jungli> may be i lots of wrong thing here
[15:57] <Jungli> i can't read irc guide lines
[15:57] <bazhang> Jungli, sure you can
[15:57] <bazhang> !guidelines
[15:58] <Jungli> if i hurt some body for ban evading i really say sorry to him
[15:58] <bazhang> Jungli, just don't do it in future
[15:58] <bazhang> Jungli, also read the code of conduct please
[15:58] <bazhang> !coc
[15:58] <Jungli> and a personal point of view i say sorry
[15:59] <Jungli> IdleOne, yes i do some trolling in channels but i say sorry plz i never do troll in this freenode its for help its not for fun
[16:00] <Jungli> sorry for my poor english too
[16:00] <Jungli> god bless you all
[17:04] <Jungli> hia again :)
[17:06] <IdleOne> Jungli: how can we help you?
[17:07] <IdleOne> Jungli: How many times do we have to tell you not to idle in this channel.
[17:07] <IdleOne> Explain why you are here or /part. Thank you
[17:07] <Jungli> when i am freeley ask question in Ubuntu ?
[17:08] <IdleOne> I don't understand
[17:09] <Jungli> i want to unbanned in #ubuntu :)
[17:09] <IdleOne> Did you read the links given to you earlier by bazhang ?
[17:10] <Jungli> yes :)
[17:10] <IdleOne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines and http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[17:10] <IdleOne> and you understand them?
[17:11] <Jungli> yes i never do rnodom ctcp to nay others and be good for every one :)
[17:11] <Jungli> *random
[17:11] <IdleOne> you agree to follow the guidelines and the code of conduct in all Ubuntu channels?
[17:12] <Jungli> yes sir i follow this from now :)
[17:12] <Jungli> and i also learning english
[17:12] <Jungli> for better aspect :)
[17:13] <IdleOne> Jungli: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support and not for chat, you understand this?
[17:13] <Jungli> yes i never chat to any body in that channel from now :)
[17:14] <IdleOne> I am going to remove the ban. Do not make me regret my decision please
[17:15] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu
[17:15] <Jungli> IdleOne, my nick is register and you all are familer with my ip :)
[17:15] <Jungli> IdleOne, thanks
[17:16] <Jungli> IdleOne, if you want come in India in future meet me plz :) i'll take you to TajMahal and the world of ancient India :)
[17:16] <IdleOne> Jungli: I want you to join #ubuntu to test that the ban has been removed
[17:16] <Jungli> Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[17:17] <IdleOne> try now
[17:17] <Jungli> Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[17:17] <Jungli> :@
[17:17] <IdleOne> one more time please
[17:17] <Jungli> okay
[17:18] <Jungli> done sir :)
[17:18] <IdleOne> Jungli: Please part this channel and remember to follow the rules.
[17:18] <IdleOne> have a good day.
[17:18] <Jungli> and  my request
[17:19] <Jungli> come to India once in a Life time
[17:19] <IdleOne> Maybe one day.
[17:19] <Jungli> :) thats gr8
[17:19] <IdleOne> Thank you for the offer. Now please leave this channel.
[17:19] <Jungli> have a nice day sir
[17:19] <IdleOne> Same to you.
[17:20] <IdleOne> I only removed the ban on his nick and his current ip addy.
[17:21] <IdleOne> other ip's should still be banned
[17:22] <Tm_T> I jut did set his nick to hilight
[17:24] <IdleOne> I just added it to highlight also.
[17:25] <IdleOne> stepping away from this infernal machine...need air,sun light. later
[18:41] <txwikinger> @login
[18:41] <txwikinger> @btlogin
[18:43] <Pici> txwikinger: thanks
[18:43] <txwikinger> np Pici
[18:43] <Pici> (just got back to my desk)
[18:43] <txwikinger> :)
[19:11] <maco> i think that should be learn, not lear
[19:11] <Tm_T> possibly
[19:11]  * Pici leers at maco
[19:11] <Tm_T> !whoami
[19:11] <Tm_T> @whoami
[19:11] <Tm_T> identity chrisis
[19:11] <Tm_T> -h
[19:13] <jussi> !debdiff
[19:13] <Tm_T> ubottu: debdiff is A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report, or send it to the team which handles the package: learn more about it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff
[19:13] <jussi> !debdiff is <reply>A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report,or send it to the team which handles the package,learn more about it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff
[19:13] <jussi> !no, debdiff is <reply>A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report,or send it to the team which handles the package,learn more about it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff
[19:13] <Tm_T> ...
[19:13] <jussi> you need the reply last time I checked...
[19:14] <Tm_T> reply?
[19:14] <Pici> Yes, but Tm_T changed other things.
[19:14] <Tm_T> it's mandatory now?
[19:14] <Pici> Tm_T: otherwise the bot will reply: debdiff is A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report...
[19:14] <Pici> No.
[19:15] <Tm_T> right
[19:15] <Tm_T> ubottu: no, debdiff is <reply>A simple way to patch debian/ubuntu packages is to attach a debdiff to a bug report, or send it to the team which handles the package: learn more about it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/Debdiff
[19:15] <knome> "debian/ubuntu" -> "Debian/Ubuntu" ?
[19:16] <Tm_T> brrh
[19:16] <Pici> !debdiff =~ s/\: l/. L/
[20:59] <h00k> !debdiff =~ s/debian\/ubuntu/Debian\/Ubuntu/
[21:07] <Flannel> !debdiff =~ s#debian/ubuntu#Debian/Ubuntu#
[21:08] <Flannel> so it didn't.
[21:59] <IdleOne> metabot is having conection issues
[22:00] <h00k> Flannel: did I have my syntax correct?
[22:07] <IdleOne> ubottu: sees |> as >
[22:08] <IdleOne> things you learn when making mistakes
[22:29] <Flannel> h00k: You did.  It's just easier to use a different character as a separator to not have to escape stuff
[22:29] <h00k> aha
[23:46] <Tm_T> seriously now... never had this often reconnects