[10:05] <o2simo20> ah ok, so is it possible to run gnome and not unity on ubuntu 12?
[10:05] <zykotick9> !notunity
[10:06] <zykotick9> o2simo20: but there is a gnome2-like environment for 12.04LTS... not sure on details
[10:06] <zykotick9> o2simo20: actually #ubuntu+1 might be a better place for your questions about 12.04
[10:11] <goksu> hi everyone :)
[10:12] <goksu> I'd like some advice concerning a Raid 5 arrangement.
[10:13] <YBinnenweg> Hello
[10:13] <bekks> ! ask | goksu
[10:15] <goksu> raid 5 = 4 disks -> 1 failed. now have new and better drive but I keep getting a "not large enough to joın array".
[10:15] <YBinnenweg> I am having problems using openGL acceleration in Runescape. I installed java, and it Runescape runs from my browser, but when I try to switch to openGL acceleration it tells me this is not possible. I am using Chromium browser, and my GPU is the ATI Radeon X1950XTX. I didn't install any other GPU drivers, I used the ones that came with Ubuntu 11.10.
[10:16] <goksu> because new drive is 4096 sectors versus the 512 and ı need to allıgn
[10:17] <bekks> goksu: I doubt thats the reason.
[10:17] <bekks> goksu: Just the the overall size of the new disk, it is smaller. But not due to the 4k blocks.
[10:19] <YBinnenweg> Is there anyone in here who can help me with that problem?
[10:19] <bekks> We dont know.
[10:19] <YBinnenweg> Ok, thanks.
[10:19] <bekks> YBinnenweg: And the shipped drivers most likely arent capable of 3D.
[10:20] <faceface> morning
[10:20] <YBinnenweg> Hmm okay
[10:20] <faceface> in the update gui, google-chrome-stable is there, but I can't check the box
[10:20] <faceface> why is that?
[10:20] <YBinnenweg> well I tried installing the fglrx drivers, but it totally disabled 3D, even in Gnome 3
[10:20] <bekks> faceface: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[10:20] <faceface> bekks: you'll laugh
[10:20] <bekks> YBinnenweg: Then something went wrong :)
[10:21] <YBinnenweg> 9.1?
[10:21] <goksu> bekks: total byte size is identical. after alignment block count is even bigger. I plan on doing a resize of the raid through resize2fs and mdadm--grow. will it work? I have data on the disk.
[10:21] <YBinnenweg> hmm.. scumbag ATI
[10:21] <faceface> Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008 bekks
[10:21] <bekks> goksu: If you have valuable data on that array, you have a backup of it. If not, just recreate the array.
[10:21] <YBinnenweg> lol
[10:21] <kxsaid> hello
[10:22] <faceface> hihi
[10:22] <OerHeks> !hardy
[10:22] <YBinnenweg> bekks: "Additional Drivers" doesn't show me anything though :/
[10:22] <oCean> faceface: 8.04 desktop edition is end of life, no more updates provided
[10:22] <faceface> whatever
[10:22] <goksu> bekks: the array size is 6terabytes. I do not have enough space to backup. that was why I had raid in the first place. for a little space.
[10:23] <oCean> faceface: ?
[10:23] <faceface> I see google-chrome-stable listed in the gui, but not clickable for update, why is it there?
[10:23] <bekks> goksu: So the data isnt valuable, since you have no backup. Basically. :) A RAID is NOT a backup at all.
[10:23] <oCean> faceface: because no more updates are provided.
[10:23] <faceface> oCean: oh, why is it listed as an update?
[10:24] <sacarlson> anyone able to install ubuntu 10.04 alternate with a usb driver or better yet from an added menu entry in grub2? seems it can't find the cdrom at install
[10:24] <oCean> faceface: because updates exist, just not for 8.04
[10:24] <faceface> strange... I guess the goolge repo isn't distro specific
[10:24] <goksu> bekks: a raid5 has some basic backup. I lost a drive and it still works. cant loose a second though. that is why I need to get that forth drive active.
[10:24] <goksu> bekks: thanks.
[10:25] <oCean> faceface: because it's end of life, 8.04 discussion is also offtopic. You should upgrade or re-install more recent release
[10:25] <faceface> right, it isn't
[10:25] <bekks> goksu: a RAID NEVER has a backup.
[10:25] <faceface> oCean: how come your last comment isn't off topic too?
[10:25] <faceface> anyway, thanks for help
[10:25] <faceface> power to the old hardware ;-)
[10:25] <faceface> cheers
[10:26] <bekks> goksu: However, unless you can backup your data, I wont play with resize2fs and mdadm --grow
[10:26]  * dwatkins thought recent Ubuntu versions ran quite well on old hardware
[10:29] <goksu> bekks:  thanks.
[10:29] <goksu> need to go. bye
[10:31] <konstantin_> hi
[10:31] <konstantin_> anybody there?
[10:32] <Laurenceb_> hi
[10:32] <Laurenceb_> can anyone help me with wifi?
[10:32] <shape> !ask > Laurenceb
[10:32] <savr> anyone using 12.4 with ruby1.9 and rails 2.3?
[10:32] <Laurenceb_> i have issues with my wifi running slow, then disconnecting, then i cannot connect
[10:32] <shape> !ask > Laurenceb_
[10:33] <Laurenceb_> i have to press the "wireless association" button on my router to connect
[10:33] <Laurenceb_> any ideas? is this a ubuntu issue or my router being weird?
[10:35] <shape> I don't think I can help you fully, but what Router do you have?
[10:35] <Laurenceb_> BT homehub
[10:35] <Laurenceb_> i wonder if its hand firmware remotely upgraded
[10:36] <shape> Laurenceb_: Do you have other computers connected to the router via wifi, and if you do, do they drop the connection as well?
[10:36] <Laurenceb_> shape: unfortunately not
[10:36] <Laurenceb_> i need to try with a windows machine
[10:37] <Laurenceb_> ok, ill try and grab an XP machine to test with
[10:37] <shape> there are ways to test the wifi in ubuntu, to check if everything is working properly (i.e. drivers, etc.) via command line
[10:37] <Laurenceb_> ok, go for it
[10:38] <shape> but I'm not that experienced in ubuntu so perhaps someone else might help you in that area
[10:43] <dell123456> salve
[10:44] <sacarlson> I can't beleave you can't install ubuntu 10.04 alternate with a usb flash drive, you get can't find cdrom.  do any of the newer alternate iso files fix this problem?
[10:45] <zykotick9> sacarlson: did you try unetbootin?  might be worth a shot?
[10:45] <ltlynx> Hello everyone! I've just installed Kubuntu 11.10 on my netbook it has an Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz processor, 1 GB of RAM. My problem is startup sound is delayed it doesn't play after the animation but it plays along with notifcations. What do I need to do to make it play ahead of the notifications?
[10:46] <sacarlson> zykotick9: no I can't even use the usb i'm doing it from a grub2 menu entry,  this system has only 256 meg and old bios with no usb boot support
[10:47] <azertyul> hi
[10:47] <sacarlson> zykotick9: and no working cdrom drives
[10:47] <azertyul> how to enable telnet when it not present ?
[10:47] <zykotick9> sacarlson: well good luck (with 256MB RAM, seems like a waste of time to me)
[10:48] <sacarlson> zykotick9: it's just a server
[10:49] <sacarlson> I think I should try the lubuntu but I'm not sure if it will have the same problem or not
[10:50] <jrib> sacarlson: why wouldn't you start with ubuntu server edition?
[10:50] <sacarlson> jrib: that also has the same problem with can't find cdrom from a grub2 menu add
[10:51] <jrib> sacarlson: how did you create the usb?
[10:52] <Knows_Nothing> hello
[10:52] <sacarlson> jrib: the system still has a running partition to boot ,  from there I edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to make install with an iso file
[10:52] <Knows_Nothing> have a problem with postfix, has anyone postfix knowledge?
[10:53] <bekks> ! ask | Knows_Nothing
[10:53] <juniour> yep tell
[10:53] <juniour> postfix
[10:53] <Knows_Nothing> k thanks bekks
[10:53] <juniour> ya
[10:53] <sacarlson> jrib: I run into this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1486515
[10:54] <Knows_Nothing> I cant "send" a mail to my postfix server. The mail is in the log, but i get (on my web email account) a mail back with the title "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender"
[10:54] <jrib> sacarlson: and what happens when you try the solution posted in that thread?
[10:55] <sacarlson> jrib: I think they do it from a usb were as I don't
[10:55] <jrib> sacarlson: well they mount the iso, can't you do the same?
[10:55] <juniour> sacarlson chang you boot order kepp usb to first
[10:55] <sacarlson> jrib: but I'm thinking about trying something like it but first I'll try lubuntu
[10:55] <juniour> k
[10:55] <jrib> !install | sacarlson
[10:56] <sacarlson> juniour: this old system won't boot usb, no bios support
[10:56] <jrib> sacarlson: there might be some useful info on those wiki pages too
[10:56] <juniour> k
[10:56] <juniour> than install with ubuntu live cd
[10:56] <juniour> k
[10:57] <sacarlson> I did also try the mini.iso but can't figure that out eather
[10:57] <sacarlson> juniour: no working cdrom drives any place around here any more
[10:59] <jrib> sacarlson: there's a link on the wiki about installing from an existing linux install.  I'd give that a read-through.  I also believe the instructions given in the thread linked from the original forum thread you posted would work; you just need to read and apply it to your situation
[10:59] <sacarlson> jrib: that's the method I am presently using
[11:03] <sacarlson> looks like lubuntu might work as it only requires 128 meg mem
[11:08] <vooze> How do i enter "Gsettings" to edit a gnome shell extension?
[11:10] <case_> hello, I need to find and old Firefox version (10) to run my integration tests, but I am not able to find one. Any suggestions?
[11:10] <HeliusCron> google old versions of FF
[11:11] <case_> HeliusCron: I can only find v3, I need 10
[11:13] <HeliusCron> http://www.top10download.com/?dl_id=3248
[11:13] <HeliusCron> well
[11:13] <HeliusCron> thats for windows sorry
[11:13] <case_> you're saying I should use Windows? :)
[11:14] <nelson8874> I have dual boot. Windows 7 and Linux Mint. I want to install ubuntu over mint, and substitute it. Is it possible?
[11:14] <viveshen> just run mint off stick
[11:15] <nelson8874> viveshen: sorry, i don't understand....
[11:16] <LjL> nelson8874: it's possible and should be pretty easy
[11:16] <scar3crow> nelson8874: totally... if you have a seperate /home ;)
[11:16] <LjL> nelson8874: just select manual partitioning in the installer, and use your Mint partition(s) as your Ubuntu's new partition(s)
[11:16] <LjL> nelson8874: but yes, mind your data, because by default they will be lost
[11:17] <nelson8874> LjL: will i not screw grub?
[11:17] <LjL> nelson8874: well you will lose Mint's GRUB, but Ubuntu will install its own version and that should be fine
[11:18] <nelson8874> LjL: and will it make a new clean dual boot?
[11:18] <LjL> nelson8874: if all goes well, yes. it's supposed to recognize Windows automagically and let you dual-boot
[11:19] <HeliusCron> anyone running truecrypt with a dual boot of win7/ubuntu?
[11:19] <UnconventionalT> I have a question. If I'm running Ubuntu and gnome, and I want to install K apps (like Krita, for example), ubuntu downloads the entire oxygen icon set. Is there any way to have all of my KDE apps use gnome icons, instead?
[11:20] <nelson8874> LjL: ok. I will try it. If you don't see me in a few min/hours, thats because i f*** my pc... :)
[11:21] <LjL> nelson8874: good luck :P
[11:21] <dermarktler> hey
[11:21] <dermarktler> ♥
[11:22] <UnconventionalT> Essentially, all I'm asking is if there's a KDE icon theme that can just symlink to all of the Gnome icons.
[11:32] <shape> Does anyone know if you can set up Thunderbird with Hotmail imap?
[11:32] <scar3crow> shape yep
[11:43] <cassiopeia_> is it possible to make "grep" post the first line of a file, then "grep" the rest of what i specify?
[11:43] <cassiopeia_> and still have it play nice with | column |
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> cassiopeia_  use awk
[11:47] <bby> hey
[11:48] <bby> im in
[11:49] <bby> ping www.google.com
[11:49] <bby> someone there?
[11:49] <dlentz> !ping
[11:53] <cassiopeia_> cat someCSVfile.csv | column -s, -t | less -#2 -N -Sn| grep 'takemetothemoon' // i have that command ?to pull lines from a large .csv file, how would i use awk instead to pull the first line and still have the ability to pull specific lines or grep for data
[11:55] <boobies> hi
[11:55] <boobies> who wants to help me run through recommended updates??
[11:56] <dlentz> run through recommended updates?
[11:58] <lan3y> we should take people as seriously as their nick names on here
[11:58] <boobies> dlentz: yes, please tell me which ones are absolutely essential
[11:58] <dlentz> do i get multiple choice?
[11:59] <boobies> dlentz: yes, 270
[11:59] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[11:59] <dlentz> boobies, you generally install all of them unless you have a slow net connection
[11:59] <boobies> dlentz: but if i do that, my quick brightness keys don't change screen brightness no more
[12:00] <ghil> Oh, the nice feeling. waking up in the morning, starting your computer, and see Linux there for the first time in a while. :P
[12:00] <boobies> dlentz: only bar moves
[12:02] <root1> Jotak : -----
[12:02] <dlentz> boobies, the only essential updates are security updates
[12:02] <boobies> dlentz: true but i can't play nexuiz now
[12:03] <bunny69> what is the good cpulimit tool that can work with multicore?
[12:03] <boobies> dlentz: which updates is essential to get the graphics card running optimally
[12:03] <dlentz> boobies, depends on your graphic card
[12:03] <lan3y> boobies, the driver is a good place to start
[12:03] <Stanley00> bunny69: what do you mean by "cpuimit"?
[12:04] <boobies> dlentz: true but which one is it ?
[12:04] <lotus> I find that the volume control in ubuntu only effects the volume between range 0% (minimum) - 20% (max)  -- any higher and it just doesn't change.
[12:04] <lotus> How can I get more precise control over my volume?
[12:05] <dlentz> boobies, what GPU do you have (look at lscpi command if not sure)
[12:05] <dlentz> lotus, have you tried alsamixer?
[12:05] <boobies> dlentz: how to run the command ?
[12:06] <lotus> dlentz: Hitting "volume +" on my keyboard is changing the levels in alsamixer (I'm watching it happen)
[12:06] <dlentz> boobies, open a terminal?
[12:06] <lotus> dlentz: actually, the volume is being increased on "Master" but nothing changes.  The volume below "20%" is being changed on "Front"
[12:07] <lotus> dlentz: For clarity, when "Front" meter moves up and down, the volume _actually_ changes.  When "Master" moves up and down, the volume remains constant.
[12:07] <boobies> dlentz: lscpi is not a known command
[12:07] <dlentz> sorry, lspci
[12:08] <PsiKlops> hi. i want to install avidemux on Oneric. can i add the debian multi media repository: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free  or other to my sources.list ?
[12:08] <dlentz> lotus, i'm not sure :\ (i don't use gnome.unity or pulseaudio)
[12:09] <lotus> dlentz: yeah I'm just in gnome classic but w/ pulseaudio (10.04)
[12:09] <dlentz> PsiKlops, avidemux is in the repo
[12:09] <dlentz> !info avidemux
[12:09] <paissad> hello guys, what do Ubuntu version always get released on thursdays ?
[12:09] <paissad> why*
[12:10] <PsiKlops> dlentz, not in mine unfortunately ... very strange but true
[12:10] <lan3y> paissad, in time for a long weekend of getting it working and set up just the way we like it :D
[12:10] <dlentz> lotus, so you want your volume keys to control 'Front'?
[12:10] <lotus> paissad: So they're ready for download friday morning before work, install friday after work, setup over the weekend, and be ready by Monday for use?
[12:10] <lotus> dlentz: yes, in increments of 2 or 5%
[12:10] <lotus> paissad: just a guess
[12:11] <llutz> PsiKlops: then check your sources.list, change mirrors
[12:11] <paissad> lotus: lan3y okay
[12:11] <fredrik_> how do I gzip all files and subfolders into one big zip-file?
[12:12] <paissad> fredrik_: you mean how to google that ?
[12:12] <auronandace> PsiKlops: wheezy? are you using a debian repository on ubuntu?
[12:12] <lotus> fredrik_: I think you use tar cvzf file.tar.gz folder_to_compress/
[12:12] <llutz> fredrik_: tar czf bigfile.tgz /folder
[12:12] <lotus> fredrik_: the v flag is for verbose
[12:13] <fredrik_> paissad, isnt ubuntu on irc better than google it?
[12:13] <fredrik_> llutz, thanks!
[12:13] <lotus> fredrik_: lots of people like to see you put a little effort into finding the answer yourself
[12:13] <krzysztof> Cześć, jest wstanie udzielić mi porady, dot instalacji wtyczek flash na xubntu?
[12:13] <PsiKlops> auronandace, no, i thought wheezy would compair more to oneric
[12:13] <lotus> !translate krzysztof
[12:13] <lotus> ;P
[12:14] <dlentz> lotus, fire up gconf-editor and look at apps/gnome-settings-daemon , there may be a setting ther
[12:14] <auronandace> PsiKlops: never mix debian and ubuntu repos, things will break
[12:14] <PsiKlops> auronandace, but i wanted to
[12:14] <PsiKlops> ok
[12:15] <lotus> dlentz ty~
[12:15] <llutz> PsiKlops:avidemux should be in the standard-repos. check your sources.list and change mirrors if yours aren't holding it
[12:15] <PsiKlops> llutz, yoo, thanx
[12:15] <llutz> psakrii: make sure to have "multiverse"  enabled
[12:16] <llutz> sry psakrii, not you
[12:18] <lotus> dlentz: looks like only the keys are listed in there.  Thanks for the idea, though!  :)
[12:18] <lotus> dlentz: also, volume_step was in there :)
[12:19] <lotus> dlentz: actually, volume_step helped.  I set it to "1" instead of "6" and now I can just operate in the 20% range
[12:19] <lotus> hehe
[12:20] <lotus> it's like increments of "5" on the "front" slider
[12:20]  * dlentz gives lotus thumbs up
[12:21] <lotus> haugh fie!
[12:21] <lotus> yeuah!  ;P
[12:21]  * lotus goes back to work
[12:22]  * dlentz goes back to drinking
[12:22] <anonymx> halo
[12:24] <codemaniac> hello ubuites
[12:24] <dmorrison42> Quick question. I tried searching out the answer, but I couldn't understand what the answers meant.
[12:24] <codemaniac> anyone uses micromax 310g modem at ubuntu
[12:24] <meNtha> somebody have experience with ralink wifi and ubuntu?
[12:25] <derpladee> hey guys is it possible to output your sound on one of the other mini jack ports? like i have one for sound, one for microphone and one for .. something else
[12:25] <derpladee> can i output my computer sound to the mini jack that's "intended" for microphone input?
[12:26] <dmorrison42> How can I add padding to my filenames? IE 1 songname.mp3 = 001 songname.mp3
[12:26] <dmorrison42> ?
[12:30] <dlentz> derpladee, http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2011/11/29/turn-your-mic-jack-into-a-headphone-jack/
[12:31] <derpladee> dlentz, thanks!
[12:31] <dlentz> yw
[12:32] <mastavra> hello all
[12:32] <mastavra> hello all
[12:33] <codemaniac> hello mastavra
[12:33] <mastavra> how are you
[12:33] <mastavra> aodemaniac
[12:39] <appi_uppi> hi
[12:40] <appi_uppi> how to extract DSDT from the bios on ubuntu 10.04
[12:40] <appi_uppi> what's the command?
[12:41] <appi_uppi> i'm trying to recompile DSDT as my system is getting heatedup
[12:41] <akem> last time i played with DSDT tables i bricked my motherboard.
[12:42] <appi_uppi> oh my god
[12:42] <dlentz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/HardwareEnableWithDSDT#Dump_DSDT.2BAC8-SSDT
[12:42] <appi_uppi> but do you know how to extract DSDT from the bios?
[12:42] <akem> had to flash the BIOS cauze the table was messed up, didn't worked.
[12:42] <oCean> appi_uppi: probably need acpidump (it's in the repos)
[12:42] <akem> can't remember i used some Win32 intel tool iirc...
[12:42] <appi_uppi> i see
[12:43] <ssta> playing with your BIOS is a good way to toast the machine
[12:43] <appi_uppi> but can anyone tell the me exact command to extract information from bios/
[12:43] <appi_uppi> hehehe
[12:43] <oCean> appi_uppi: dmidecode shows lots of information
[12:44] <oCean> appi_uppi: see, this page http://www.arunviswanathan.com/node/63 mentions both dmidecode and acpidump
[12:44] <appi_uppi> but i'm not modifying any bios settings
[12:45] <appi_uppi> just trying to recompile dsdt
[12:45] <appi_uppi> i will see that link
[12:45] <ssta> you don't think the system table is a BIOS setting?
[12:46] <ironm> hello. Please allow me one question: how is it possible (if at all) to create a local ubuntu install repository from a ubuntu-server iso image doing it offline? Thank you in advance for any hints.
[12:46] <appi_uppi> ssta, yes it is
[12:46] <ironm> appi_uppi, thank you. do you know how?
[12:47] <oCean> ironm: this page describes how to setup PXE boot server, that's probably what you're after https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[12:49] <ironm> thank you oCean
[12:50] <o2simo20> is it like a structure? like linux> x11> gnome or linux> x11> unity
[12:51] <o2simo20> so in ubuntu 12 i can install gnome2 instead of unity or will this brk some stuff?
[12:51] <Therion87> GNOME2 isn't in repos anymore is it?
[12:51] <dlentz> o2simo20, gnome2 is dead, but lives on in zombie form as "MATE"
[12:51] <oCean> o2simo20: gnome2 is dead, no one is maintaining it. And 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[12:53] <o2simo20> thnks oCean and dlentz
[12:54] <Abhijit> !gnome
[12:55] <appi_uppi> oCean, not exactly :(
[12:55] <oCean> appi_uppi: ?
[12:56] <appi_uppi> oCean, no i dont know
[12:56] <oCean> appi_uppi: I have no idea what you are talking about
[12:57] <mouth1> hi, what package do i need to play mp3?
[12:57] <mouth1> i see there are 2 packages doing the same thing in the ubuntu software center
[12:57] <dlentz> mouth1, it depends on which player you're using
[12:58] <appi_uppi> oCean, i'm answering to your question
[12:58] <mouth1> "GStreamer extra plugins" and "Ubuntu restricted extras"
[12:58] <mouth1> both say that they play mp3
[12:58] <oCean> mouth1: you need the restricted extras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:58] <dlentz> ubuntu restricted-extras is a metapackage (just depends on other packages)
[12:59] <ssta> there's an mp3 player installed by default.  Banshee?
[12:59] <mouth1> dlentz, oCean  what does that mean exactly? i'm trying to learn the words :D
[13:00] <oCean> mouth1: it's explained at the link I posted.
[13:00] <dlentz> a metapackage doesn't contain its own software, it just grabs other packages
[13:01] <dlentz> ubuntu restricted extras grabs "gstreamer exta plugins"
[13:01] <mouth1> ah
[13:01] <dlentz> that's why installing either one will enable mp3
[13:01] <mouth1> and i should install the restricted extras?
[13:01] <dlentz> yes, assuming they're legal (of course)
[13:02] <mouth1> i wonder why it says "unknown" in the license information and not open source
[13:02] <mouth1> what do you mean?
[13:03] <dlentz> i mean that restricted stuff may not be legal depending on your locality and men in uncomfortable shoes may show up at your doorstep
[13:03] <mouth1> haha ok
[13:03] <shape> stop scaring the guy
[13:03] <sattu94> Exactly..
[13:03] <shape> who comes up at your door
[13:03] <shape> because of the damn codecs
[13:03] <dlentz> the codec police!
[13:03] <shape> and microsoft fonts
[13:04] <ssta> nobody will come to your door probably
[13:04] <shape> jesus christ
[13:04] <mouth1> how would they even know
[13:04] <shape> first of all they have to know who he is
[13:04] <shape> and that he got those
[13:04] <shape> and you can't trace that
[13:04] <shape> and it's not even illegal stuff
[13:04] <ssta> the point is that the stuff in restricted is licensed under various not-free terms.
[13:04] <dlentz> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/facetious
[13:04] <LjL> ok let's just leave it at "it might be illegal depending on where you live"
[13:04] <appi_uppi> oCean, sorry.. i was suppose to answer to ironm
[13:04] <appi_uppi> ironm, i dont know
[13:05] <CQ_> how can I figure out which packages are eating up the most space on my system?
[13:05] <mouth1> ok guys, i have another question… coming from windows and lots of malware problems i am afraid of just installing anything i don't know the source of or is open source...
[13:05] <mouth1> is restricted-extras or gstreamer-extras "safe"...?
[13:05] <gvo> ye
[13:05] <gvo> yes
[13:06] <mouth1> but there is no source available and i am granting admin rights to it, right?
[13:06] <LjL> CQ_: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less
[13:06] <ironm> appi_uppi, what do you mean exactly?
[13:06] <prashant_123456> how to decrease panel height in ubuntu 11.10
[13:06] <sacarlson1> ok my solution with lubuntu to boot from grub2 worked.  I should have used this a long time ago instead of working to get ubuntu alternate to boot from a grub2 entry
[13:07] <dlentz> sacarlson1, context might help..
[13:07] <CQ_> ljl thanks
[13:07] <ironm> oCean, it looks like XCP can't use PXE server for VM installations
[13:07] <LjL> mouth1, it's still packaged by Ubuntu, so you're only granting admin rights to the package's installation scripts by Ubuntu. then, the codecs/things themselves will only use whatever privileges you run them with (typically your user's)
[13:08] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:08] <appi_uppi> ironm, i dont know about the BIOS system table
[13:08] <mouth1> ok thanks LjL
[13:08] <sacarlson1> dlentz: I couldn't get ubuntu alternate to boot from an added grub entry to boot iso as it fails to find cdrom,  seems this but is not been fixed
[13:08] <ironm> thank you appi_uppi
[13:08] <sacarlson1> but = bug
[13:09] <appi_uppi> ironm, all i'm trying to sort out the heat up issue in my laptop
[13:09] <dlentz> sacarlson1, ah, i see
[13:09] <dlentz> appi_uppi, what kind of laptop
[13:09] <omido> Hi. i'm noob. i just installed ubuntu and want to update it and install some apps on it. ubuntu software center says " Waiting for Jockey-backend to exit". what should i do ?
[13:09] <appi_uppi> dlentz, accer aspire 5536
[13:10] <jamjam> anyone know a guide/link on clustering x86 ubuntu?
[13:11] <ironm> appi_uppi, I guess the overheating issue you have is due to compiz (in case you use it)
[13:11] <omido> Hi. i'm noob. i just installed ubuntu and want to update it and install some apps on it. ubuntu software center says " Waiting for Jockey-backend to exit". what should i do ?
[13:12] <appi_uppi> ironm, should i remove it
[13:12] <ironm> appi_uppi, I use awesome as WM
[13:12] <ironm> yes appi_uppi  .. I would not recommend using compiz
[13:13] <appi_uppi> oh
[13:13] <omido> plz help me
[13:13] <appi_uppi> ironm, so shall i uninstall it from my system?
[13:14] <jamjam> !cluster
[13:14] <mouth1> omido: have you googled for the error message?
[13:14] <ironm> yes appi_uppi
[13:15] <appi_uppi> ironm, thank you.. i will it now
[13:15] <omido> mouth1: I'm on ubuntu 12.04 beta. i'm not sure if the info about the beta software is available on google
[13:15] <omido> i'm newbie
[13:15] <mouth1> omido: it is
[13:15] <gvo> 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[13:15] <omido> Should i keep using the 12.04 beta or use 10.04 or 11.10 ?
[13:15] <ironm> omido, there is still *only" beta version of ubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <mouth1> omido: i would not use 12.04 beta yet
[13:16] <mouth1> only for testing
[13:16] <dlentz> omido, does this command return anything?
[13:16] <dlentz> ps -e | grep jockey
[13:16] <gvo> omido I agree with mouth1
[13:16] <mouth1> install 11.10 and then when 12.04 is released install that
[13:16] <appi_uppi> ironm, wow
[13:16] <gvo> beta software isn't for newbies
[13:16] <kalle_r_> Hi, is Ubuntu windows xp?
[13:17] <appi_uppi> ironm, the heat has come down like anyting
[13:17] <gvo> kalle_r_: sure
[13:17] <ironm> appi_uppi, ;)
[13:17] <kalle_r_> is Ubuntu XP poop compatiable?
[13:17] <appi_uppi> ironm, shall i install awesome WM?
[13:17] <gvo> I've heard it said XP is poop/
[13:18] <oCean> gvo: please move on
[13:18] <bondmain_> So i just setup google authenticator on my ubuntu machine... and i was wondering can i make the code requried when logging into any of the tty as well as ssh... or is it ssh only?
[13:19] <appi_uppi> ironm, shall i install awesome WM?
[13:21] <Debolaz> Hmm, how do I disable the behavior where shift-alt becomes the meta key?
[13:21] <cuzzo> What's the best way to install glib > 2.3?  I can't seem to get > 2.3 with apt-get.
[13:23] <GirlyGirl> cuzzo: Why do you want that?
[13:23] <cuzzo> GirlyGirl, to install webkit from source.
[13:23] <ResQue> i think a word doc i have got has a mal vbscript in it. how can i open and view this vbscript with openoffice?
[13:24] <ResQue> i could not see anything to do with scripting on the menu, could someone point me in the right direction
[13:24] <zjfa_> hell
[13:26] <arianit> hi, kernels newer than 3.0.0-13-generic give me a blank screen. so although I have them uinstalled up to -17, they don't work. any ideas?
[13:28] <georgelappies> how can I disable the silent boot. i.e. I want to see the messages running up the screen of the system booting until X kicks in?
[13:30] <sattu94> I think Plymouth handles that..
[13:32] <satyanash> georgelappies, But I remember something else being responsible for showing the ubuntu loading screen since 11.04
[13:33] <bastidrazor> georgelappies: remove "quiet splash" in /etc/default/grub  then sudo update-grub
[13:36] <georgelappies> bastidrazor: its this line right "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash""
[13:36] <bastidrazor> georgelappies: yes, leave the "
[13:37] <bastidrazor> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""  is what you want
[13:37] <georgelappies> shot, thanks bastidrazor
[13:37] <georgelappies> let me reboot :)
[13:38] <bastidrazor> georgelappies: you're welcome. be sure to sudo update-grub afterwards
[13:43] <lotus> be sure to sudo rm -rf /* also ;P
[13:44] <lotus> no, no don't do that.
[13:46] <satyanash> lotus, You could get kicked for that.
[13:47] <shape> what does that do?
[13:47] <shape> remove what?
[13:47] <Sidewinder> !danger
[13:48] <oCean> lotus: don't suggest that again
[13:49] <elspuddy> hi, how do i give full access to a mac drive in ubuntu ?
[13:50] <synapse> is it possible to do a dist upgrade to the 12.04 (pre-release) if I am running lucid?
[13:50] <Horusofoz> @shape by the looks of it (newb here) removes (rm) all the contents of from root (/*) with the -rf switches
[13:51] <synapse> or will in 2 weeks, will that functionalty be available?
[13:51] <shape> Horusofoz: It will actually let you do that? o_O?
[13:51] <ssta> shape: it deletes every file on your system.  Not a command to be taken lightly (although some people seem to think it's funny to tell people to do it)
[13:51] <bastidrazor> synapse: yes, its beta and buggy but it is possible to upgrade now
[13:51] <synapse> bastidrazor: how do I do that?
[13:51] <shape> ssta: what does -rf mean
[13:51] <synapse> recursive/force
[13:51] <shape> o_O
[13:51] <bastidrazor> synapse: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:51] <shape> where can I actually learn this stuff
[13:52] <ssta> shape: recurse (descend into subdirectories) and force removal.
[13:52] <rjman> shape: -r recurse -f force
[13:52] <bastidrazor> !teriminal | shape
[13:52] <ssta> shape: manpages, various wikis, tldp.org, lots of practice and hard work :)
[13:52] <bastidrazor> oops
[13:52] <shape> but if removes all files, how will it run?
[13:52] <bastidrazor> shape: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal   that'll help a bit
[13:53] <synapse> bastidrazor: that tossed an error saying it couldnt be done
[13:53] <ssta> shape: you'd be surprised.  Don't worry about it though, just don't do it
[13:53] <bastidrazor> synapse: what was the error
[13:53] <synapse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/931086/
[13:53] <rjman> shape: well, you won't be able to run it a second time...i don't think
[13:54] <wylde> shape, because most of your running processes are loaded into ram. rjman correct :)
[13:54] <shape> Jesus o_O
[13:54] <shape> btw, when i have something like
[13:55] <shape> a program pidgin for example
[13:55] <ssta> not unheard of for systems to stay up after it...for a while anyway
[13:55] <mirko_> !list
[13:55] <shape> what is the command to type after it, so taht you see the options that you have
[13:55] <wylde> until they need to access files on disk, heh
[13:55] <wylde> shape:  usually -h or --help
[13:56] <shape> oh ok
[13:56] <shape> thanks all!
[13:56] <oCean> shape: it differs. Sometimes it is --help or -h or it might show you help when no option is given at all. Also, you can use manual pages by using the  man pidgin  command
[13:56] <wylde> shape: for detailed info man <packagename>
[13:56] <shape> bastidrazor: thanks for the links!
[13:56] <synapse> bastidrazor: any tips/clues?
[13:57] <shape> oCean: wylde: thanks!
[13:57] <shape> Any good books on Linux to learn this stuff or is the wiki enough?
[13:57] <compdoc> google is as good as any book
[13:57] <oCean> !manual | shape
[13:58] <ssta> lots of books, wikis, google, manpages
[13:58] <oCean> shape: ^the manual is a little outdated, but still helpful
[13:58] <jacobrask> Neither my camera nor SD card reader mounts and doesn't even show up in fdisk. I see in dmesg that they are added, and they worked a couple of weeks back. I used another cable though, which I can't find now, and I might've upgraded my kernel since
[13:58] <ssta> the Ubuntu manual is a userguide, not a technical work
[13:58] <bastidrazor> synapse: it claims you may have unofficial packages not supported by ubuntu.
[13:58] <shape> Is this good? A Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming by Sobell
[13:58] <Horusofoz> shape: If it helps - A Command Line Primer for Beginners - http://lifehacker.com/5633909/who-needs-a-mouse-learn-to-use-the-command-line-for-almost-anything
[13:59] <synapse> I did, I just commented them out of sources.lst
[13:59] <rjman> shape: no books really help me...but www.linuxjournal.com gives good tips/projects with linux
[13:59]  * SaZha *laughing* >everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents< why not "endless task"
[13:59] <shape> Thanks a lot guys! I have lots to learn now!
[14:00] <sab0> hi, I am using ubuntu 10.04,i want to install google-talk plugin,i downloaded it,but when i was trying to install it form terminal it was giving me the following error....http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/
[14:00] <etzerd> hello all
[14:00] <sab0> can any one please help me
[14:00] <etzerd> ?
[14:00] <etzerd> when the new version will be out?
[14:00] <Milf> Hi
[14:00] <mirko_> hi
[14:00] <Milf> wanna change language on my ubuntu server
[14:00] <Milf> What's the command?
[14:00] <oCean> etzerd: plans are april 26th, but it will be available when it is ready
[14:00] <Horusofoz> Ciao
[14:01] <bastidrazor> synapse: its not liking them being installed
[14:01] <Milf> it's supposed to be in english but yet showing me errors in french... what the hell ^^
[14:01] <SaZha> anyone could tell me a shorthand for installing speech-recognition?
[14:01] <SaZha> and maybe some code to understand gestures like eye-toy does?
[14:02] <sab0> hi, I am using ubuntu 10.04,i want to install google-talk plugin,i downloaded it,but when i was trying to install it form terminal it was giving me the following error....http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/  can any one please help me
[14:02] <SaZha> wanna have to kow my host when im getting angry, start insulting and sort before punching him
[14:03] <robertzaccour> I've got a problem trying to launch Kdenlive "kdenlive MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install. Kdenlive will not work until this issue is fixed." any suggestions?
[14:04] <ssta> sab0: you downloaded a .deb?  You need to use "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[14:04] <skel> sab0: what is your platform?  x86_64 or x86?
[14:04] <sab0> skel, x86_64
[14:05] <Milf> wanna change language on my ubuntu server, what's the shell command?
[14:05] <skel> sab0: that error looks like its trying to install on x86. did you get the right version?
[14:06] <skel> Milf: export LANG=
[14:06] <Milf> skel, LANG="en" for example?
[14:07] <sab0> skel, i will try 64 bit version
[14:07] <ironm> appi_uppi, I guess awesome is the right WM for users with long linux experience. If you want to try awesome you could download a bootable live image (booting from a USB stick) I have created in the past ...http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/debian-live/binary-hybrid-wheezy-amd64-syslinux-awesome.iso
[14:07] <killer1> i dual boot ubuntu and opensuse and i want the grub of opensuse to be default
[14:07] <skel> Milf: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[14:07] <Milf> skel thxxxx
[14:07] <sab0> skel, can you please tell me how can i check which version of ubuntu i am using 64/32 bit,as i am new in linux platform
[14:08] <ironm> appi_uppi, there is also a README file with required details: http://rsync.it-infrastrukturen.org/debian-live/README_debian-live-images.txt
[14:09] <robertzaccour> I've got a problem trying to launch Kdenlive "kdenlive MLT's SDL module not found. Please check your MLT install. Kdenlive will not work until this issue is fixed." any suggestions?
[14:09] <jola> ssta, are you there?
[14:09] <bastidrazor> sab0: in a terminal type 'uname -m'
[14:09] <wylde> !patience | robertzaccour
[14:10] <flux242> Hi, I'm trying to figure out if it possible to get notified if a davfs2 is mounted. Should udev help here and how the rule should look like in this case? At least SUBSYSTEM=="fuse" RUN+="/etc/showfuse.sh" doesn't seem to work
[14:10] <wylde> robertzaccour: you may also have better luck in #kubuntu.
[14:10] <robertzaccour> wylde, I waited several minutes, just trying to get some help
[14:10] <appi_uppi> ironm, sure
[14:10] <appi_uppi> ironm, thank you
[14:12] <skel> robertzaccour: have you tried this? http://www.kdenlive.org/forum/ubuntu-1110-wont-run-kdenlive-mlts-sdl-module-not-found
[14:13] <sab0> skel, l am using 32 bit machine
[14:13] <skel> sab0: ok whats the package name for the google plugins you downloaded?
[14:13] <killer1> can anyone tell me how to choose default bootloader /grub in linux dual booting
[14:13] <skel> or what link did you download from?
[14:14] <sab0> skel, google-talkplugin_current_i386
[14:14] <robertzaccour> skel, I saw that before but how do I add the ppa?
[14:15] <skel> sab0: hm ok
[14:15] <sab0> skel, was trying to install it from terminal by using the command sudo apt-get install google-talkplugin_current_i386.....but giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/
[14:15] <wylde> robertzaccour:  apt-add-repository ppa:somethingelsehere
[14:15] <mouth1> are ati drivers any better than they were say 5 years ago? the fglrx for example?
[14:16] <bazhang> !addppa | robertzaccour
[14:16] <ezoe> Is there a way to hide User Account from upper bar?
[14:16] <ironm> appi_uppi, if you are not programmer or system administrator another WMs like gnome, lxde or kde are "better"
[14:16] <skel> robertzaccour: the fourth post shows you exactly what to type..
[14:17] <ezoe> Sometimes, I unintentionally switch user because of this.
[14:17] <hifibot> Hello ther .. Can anyone tell me how can i install xchat from here .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat
[14:17] <robertzaccour> skel, just tried the first post. brb after I try it out thanks
[14:17] <skel> sab0: I'm not on my ubuntu system atm otherwise I'd download the package and take a look at it. I don't have a shell on my tablet atm.
[14:17] <RobinJ> when you install ubuntu 4.10 you get this little setup script at first run, can anyone tell me where i can find it? i chose the wrong video driver >.>
[14:17] <Debro> how i can use unity with gnome
[14:17] <appi_uppi> ironm, i'm a programmer but a great programmer :D... ironm i have remove compiz what do you recommend lxde or kde?
[14:18] <skel> Debro: you can't. thats like asking how you can use a toyota with your chevy
[14:18] <skel> Debro: you can make gnome behave like unity and possibly the other way around
[14:18] <ironm> appi_uppi, kde seems to be more comfortable however kde needs a lot of RAM compare to lxde
[14:18] <sab0> I was trying to install it from terminal by using the command sudo apt-get install google-talkplugin_current_i386.....but giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/ ..can any one help please
[14:19] <skel> sab0: can you give me the link where you downloaded the deb?
[14:19] <appi_uppi> ironm, hmm
[14:19] <appi_uppi> ironm, heat has come down
[14:19] <mouth1> !ati
[14:20] <sab0> skel, http://www.google.com/chat/video/download.html?hl=en
[14:20] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: KDE doesn't need that much ram, its just that lxde needs less than normal ram
[14:20] <ironm> appi_uppi, yes .. it was due to compiz and it's hardware usage
[14:20] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: A typical kde session uses arround 320mb ram
[14:21] <appi_uppi> i see..
[14:21] <appi_uppi> then will install KDE
[14:21] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: give me a sec I have one useful link for you
[14:21] <appi_uppi> oh sure
[14:22] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: You are on 11.10?
[14:22] <robertzaccour> skel, I think I will try the beta version and see my luck there. I'd rather not have to switch to KDE just for 1 program if possible.
[14:22] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, 10.04
[14:22] <sab0> I was trying to install it from terminal by using the command sudo apt-get install google-talkplugin_current_i386.....but giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/ ..can any one help please
[14:22] <skel> robertzaccour: I understand, I have the same approach myself.
[14:23] <satyanash> A typical Fvwm session uses 30-40MB RAM..
[14:23] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: Hmm then it might be a bad idea ... kde in 10.04 is an old version and really not stable compared to the recent release
[14:23] <ironm> appi_uppi, why didn't you already move to ubuntu 11.10?
[14:23] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11501685&postcount=1
[14:23] <RobinJ> when you install ubuntu 4.10 you get this little setup script at first run, can anyone tell me where i can find it? i chose the wrong video driver >.>
[14:23] <appi_uppi> upgrade?
[14:24] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, ironm oh
[14:24] <mneptok> sab0: the package is google-talkplugin (no _i386)
[14:24] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: Or you can wait for precise on th 26th and install kubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <bazhang> RobinJ, did you mean 10.04? 4.10 is not supported for a long time
[14:24] <appi_uppi> kubuntu
[14:24] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, sure then
[14:25] <mneptok> ironm: there are very good reasons to stay with an LTS release like 10.04 rather than update it to a non-LTS version. i do the same on a server here at home.
[14:25] <RobinJ> bazhang, no, 4.10 =D
[14:25] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, I'm really depending on you people @ moment.. however i will also go through the release notes for compatibility with accer aspire 5536
[14:25] <ironm> mneptok, yes ... if you use it as a server
[14:26] <mneptok> ironm: desktop, too.
[14:26] <bazhang> RobinJ, there's no support for that here.
[14:26] <appi_uppi> ironm, thank your very much
[14:26] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: What graphic card does it have?
[14:26] <RobinJ> meh i'll just reinstall it, it happens in 5 minutes anyway :p
[14:26] <mneptok> ironm: try telling enterprise IT with 6,000 desktop seats that all their users have to upgrade every 6 months. watch the Windows license fly off the shelves.
[14:26] <ironm> mneptok, well .. I don't use ubuntu for desktop
[14:27] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[14:27] <ironm> you are right mneptok  .. you can't do it .. tell 6'000 people to move every few months to another desktop
[14:28] <mneptok> ironm: that being said, sitting on a NON LTS release is equally silly.
[14:28] <Mikero_> Hi all, is there a changelog available for Ubuntu 12.04 containing all driver changes/updates? Or does anybody know if the wlan driver have changed? I'm currently having major problems with my wlan connection chocking up every couple of minutes, disconnecting and reconnecting seem to solve the problem, but only for a couple of minutes.
 synapse: its not liking them being installed
[14:29] <synapse> any ideas to remedy?
[14:29] <mneptok> Mikero_: things like that come to Ubuntu from the upstream Linux kernel project.
[14:29] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, however as my Guru said i should be recompiling my DSDT i think
[14:29] <bastidrazor> synapse: uninstall them.
[14:29] <synapse> forced to uninstall 3rd party to upggrade?
[14:29] <ironm> mneptok, just for private usage it is still OK .. better than use unstable coming version like 12.04
[14:29] <mneptok> ironm: +1
[14:30] <SirHackalot> Hello everyone I am new here and I was wondering if someone could help me out with building the latest 3.4.0-rc2 kernel from kernel.org the modules always fail to compile giving me this error "ERROR: "__modver_version_show" [drivers/staging/rts5139/rts5139.ko] undefined!"
[14:30] <mneptok> ironm: uhhhh ... "+1" in this case meaning "agreed" and not "wrong channel" ;)
[14:30] <bastidrazor> synapse: it appears what ever they are is causing a conflict.
[14:30] <ironm> mneptok, I am speaking about 11.10
[14:30] <ironm> OK ;)
[14:30] <synapse> ok, well, what happens when 12.04 really comes out?  I can never upgrade?
[14:31] <synapse> just because I have google chrome installed or something, shouldn't make a dist upgrade not work :/
[14:32] <GirlyGirl> !final
[14:32] <GirlyGirl> !final | synapse
[14:32] <mneptok> synapse: dist-upgrade does not move you between Ubuntu versions.
[14:32] <pangolin> synapse, you are not forced to uninstall 3rd party repos/apps. During the upgrade they get disabled and when the upgrade is complete you need to re-enable them.
[14:32] <synapse> then I guess I don't know where I'm going wrong
[14:33] <synapse> I am using update-manager as well
[14:33] <mneptok> synapse: are you trying to move from one release to the next?
[14:33] <GirlyGirl> Oops thought I was in the +1 channel disregard
[14:33] <synapse> trying to go from lucid to the pre-release
[14:33] <synapse> pre-release of 12.04 that is
[14:33] <pangolin> synapse, that is not possible
[14:33] <mneptok> synapse: i would strongly advise against that.
[14:33] <coolpro> Hello, I'm running Teamviewer on my remote computer. Though I forgot to write down the ID and Password. Is there any way to access that kind of data remotely?
[14:33] <synapse> can I go from lucid to anything else?
[14:34] <tarboxb> Hello everyone I am new here and I was wondering if someone could help me out with building the latest 3.4.0-rc2 kernel from kernel.org the modules always fail to compile giving me this error "ERROR: "__modver_version_show" [drivers/staging/rts5139/rts5139.ko] undefined!"
[14:34] <compdoc> coolpro, it would not be very secure if you could
[14:34] <mneptok> pangolin: 10.04 to 12.04 will be possible (LTS to LTS), but i'm not sure all that d-i/tasksel stuff has been ironed out thoroughly.
[14:34] <pangolin> mneptok, correct but not before the release
[14:34] <mneptok> pangolin: right, because of ironing out such stuffs.
[14:34] <pangolin> +1
[14:35] <coolpro> compdoc: I can run shell commands as a root remotely.
[14:35] <pangolin> so, anyway, synapse for help with 12.04 or upgrading to it please use #ubuntu+1
[14:35] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, you mean ubuntu 12.04?
[14:35] <GirlyGirl> appi_uppi: You wanted kde right?
[14:36] <mneptok> synapse: wait until 12.04 is actually released. when it is, running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade" will get you 12.04.
[14:36] <synapse> !jobs
[14:36] <bastidrazor> synapse: looking at the top of that pastebin it shows that its wanting to upgrade to maverick
[14:36] <synapse> heck if I know
[14:36] <appi_uppi> GirlyGirl, i dont know if i can for it or just wait for ubuntu 12.04
[14:36] <synapse> is maverick next?
[14:36] <synapse> after lucid
[14:36] <mneptok> synapse: you need to wait until 12.04 is actually released.
[14:37] <synapse> which is in like 2 weeks, right?
[14:37] <mneptok> synapse: quite right.
[14:37] <coolpro> so i'm just wondering if there is a way to get Teamviewer ID and Password, using shell commands as root.
[14:37] <synapse> right now it is syaing "ubuntu 10.10 is available"
[14:37] <mneptok> synapse: look at the exchange pangolin and i had just above.
[14:37] <GirlyGirl> synapse: yes they go in alphabetical order ... apart from the warty warthog and hoary hedgehog
[14:37] <synapse> is it safe to update to that?
[14:38] <synapse> I guess, do I need to update to 10.10 before I can goto the next one?
[14:38] <mneptok> GirlyGirl: Breezy also.
[14:38] <pangolin> synapse, if you wait for two weeks you will be able to upgrade directly to 12.04 but not before it is released officially
[14:38] <GirlyGirl> synapse: No lts to lts upgrdes are possible but wait for the final release
[14:38] <wylde> synapse: if you upgrade to 10.10 the you will have to upgrade to 12.04 when it is released in stages. 10.10 --> 11.04 --> 11.10 --> 12.04
[14:39] <sab0> I was trying to install it from terminal by using the command sudo apt-get install google-talkplugin_current_i386.....but giving me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/931095/ ..can any one help please
[14:39] <mneptok> sab0: i already answered you.
[14:39] <synapse> I see
[14:39] <sab0> mneptok, i tried but having the same error
[14:39] <synapse> thanks all
[14:40] <mneptok> sab0: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install google-talkplugin"
[14:41] <sab0> mneptok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/931142/
[14:41] <KarateKip3> Hallow! I want to install Ubuntu from USB, but how do I put Ubuntu on that USB-stick? Should I just extract the ISO and copy it? I tried that before, but i got some strange error. BTW, i am copying Ubuntu to the USB stick on a Windows 7 machine, then I transfer it to the machine where it will be installed.
[14:42] <GirlyGirl> KarateKip3: Are you using windows?
[14:42] <mneptok> sab0: which release of Ubuntu?
[14:42] <GirlyGirl> KarateKip3: Sorry didn't read ... use a program called unetbootin
[14:42] <KarateKip3> GirlyGirl: I am using windows to download and copy the ISO to the USB-stick, yes
[14:42] <ironm> does anyone use apt-mirror on ubuntu 11.10? .. I need the /etc/apt/mirror.list file for ubuntu. Thank you in advance ;)
[14:42] <sab0> mneptok, 10.04
[14:42] <chrisinthedark1> Random thing generator --> www.worandom.com
[14:43] <GirlyGirl> KarateKip3: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net  ... select the from iso option
[14:43] <KarateKip3> GirlyGirl: thnx, i will look for unetbootin
[14:43] <wylde> !info google-talkplugin
[14:43] <oCean> chrisinthedark1: wrong channel?
[14:43] <mneptok> sab0: i'm not sure that package exists in Lucid repos.
[14:44] <ironm> KarateKip3, do you have cygwin on your windows PC ?
[14:44] <chrisinthedark1> @oCean sorry
[14:44] <chrisinthedark1> oCean: sorry
[14:44] <sab0> mneptok, i dont know,thats why i am asking help again and again,if i can solve my problem theres not reason to ask the same thing
[14:45] <mneptok> sab0: on 11.10 (which i'm using) that package is in the Main repo, marked optional. apt tools should see it without adding or uncommenting other repos.
[14:45] <GirlyGirl> KarateKip3: Set your bios to boot from usb as well, I assume you know how to do that
[14:45] <if124> sab0: have you tried " dpkg -i google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb " ?
[14:46] <mneptok> sab0: on my 10.04 server, the package is also not available.
[14:46] <sab0> if124, i will try
[14:46] <ironm> does anyone use apt-mirror on ubuntu 11.10? .. I need the /etc/apt/mirror.list file for ubuntu. Thank you in advance ;)
[14:46] <mneptok> sab0: so it's not just you. 10.04 users do not have that package in a default repo.
[14:46] <if124> sab0: use sudo before it, i forgot
[14:47] <sab0> if124, thank you so much
[14:47] <sab0> if124, its done
[14:47] <mneptok> sab0: you could see if Google's Chrome repo offers that package by adding the Chrome stuff to sources.list
[14:47] <sab0> mneptok, thanks to you also,but when you dont know something please pass other,this is a place to help people
[14:47] <mneptok> sab0: excuse me?
[14:51] <Lil> I'm diggin the new beta..
[14:52] <obakfahad> Hello?
[14:52] <FirePowi> hello
[14:52] <edlik> please help. I upgraded to 12.04 and now I can not connect using my usb wifi adapter and have no wired connection at desktop
[14:52] <mneptok> edlik: 12.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:52] <FirePowi> it can be a Driver Default ?
[14:53] <omido> hi . i'm newbie . i just installed ubuntu 10.04 . how can i upgrade to 12.04 ? what version is good for me?
[14:54] <Lil> omido; avoid 12.04
[14:55] <omido> What version of ubuntu is more suitable for a newbie like me ? at the moment i'm using 10.04
[14:55] <mneptok> omido: you will be able to upgrade that 10.04 to 12.04 in one go if you wait until 12.04 is officially released.
[14:55] <sidney> does Ubuntu use Nfs by default
[14:55] <pangolin> omido, you will be offered to upgrade when the release is official, 2 weeks.
[14:55] <elspuddy> hi, iv just put my old mac hard drive in my ubuntu  11.10 box , how can i give my sell full access to the drive ? ?
[14:55] <mneptok> elspuddy: you want to read the info on the Mac's disk?
[14:56] <elspuddy> mneptok, yes so i cna back it up before formating it
[14:56] <en1gma> i googled "ubuntu release schedual" and it shows a stable version should be out in april. we are 1/2 through april now. is there a date that we can expect it to be released?
[14:56] <sidney> what file share system does Ubuntu use
[14:56] <omido> ext4
[14:56] <Toph2> en1gma,,, someone just said, in 2 weeks
[14:56] <mneptok> elspuddy: i'm not HFS+ guru, but last i knew the kernel's support for that filesystem was kinda sketchy.
[14:57] <en1gma> i just joined this channel less then a min ago
[14:57] <sidney> omido, ?
[14:57] <pangolin> en1gma, 26th see topic in #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <Toph2> en1gma,,, ok,, sorry
[14:57] <omido> sidney:  ubuntu supports ext4 and ext3 . use ext4 . its better
[14:57] <en1gma> k thanks
[14:58] <Myrtti> en1gma: usually it's the last Thursday of xx.yy
[14:58] <elspuddy> mneptok, o.k thanks
[14:58] <en1gma> ahh
[14:58] <Myrtti> omido: did you want to read the data already on the disk, or reformat it?
[14:59] <omido> I'm newbie and i just installed ubuntu 10.04 . i wanted to make sure what version of ubuntu is right for me ? 11.10 or 10.04 or 12.04 beta?
[14:59] <Myrtti> sorry, elspuddy ^
[14:59] <elspuddy> Myrtti, mainley read it,
[14:59] <Lil> omido: 11.10
[15:00] <Myrtti> elspuddy: do you know what filesystem it is now? HFS?
[15:00] <elspuddy> i know i can read some of the drive, but say's i dont have access to read the users part
[15:00] <sidney> omido,  what network personal file share system Nfs- sshfs-scp?
[15:00] <elspuddy> disk utillity says hfs+
[15:01] <omido> sidney:  sorry but i dont know about that .i'm newbie and i previously been using openSUSE and now i migrated to ubuntu
[15:01] <covi> Hi all. I have some Chinese-named files on my computer. Some of them are displayed properly, and others are simply just a bunch of '?' question marks. What could possibly go wrong and how can I fix it?
[15:03] <elspuddy> Myrtti,  disk utillity says hfs+ , i know i can read some of the drive, its just says i cant read parts of the drive like the users folder
[15:03] <Myrtti> elspuddy: it is possible that Linux doesn't support HFS fully
[15:03] <Myrtti> elspuddy: however I'm not too wellversed in the details
[15:04] <en1gma> cant wait. i hope my wusb600n v2 (rt3572) will have native support for compat-wireless so i can get into promiscuous mode
[15:04] <en1gma> does anyone know if it will?
[15:04] <KarateKip3> I copied the latest 32-bit Ubuntu to a USB-stick using Unetbootin, but now when I boot on the target machine I get this error: SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Load error - Boot error, what could be wrong?
[15:04] <elspuddy> Myrtti, o.k thanks for the help :)
[15:08] <reenignEesreveR> so even when i've removed auto eth0 from my /etc/network/interfaces, eth0 does pop up as an interface
[15:08] <reenignEesreveR> could anyone comment why is that?
[15:11] <lafon> lots of errors when starting up lucid normally. only way to get it to work is recovery start, resume normal boot, and then login via tty then run startx command
[15:13] <mouth1> anyone running a ATI HD6850 graphics card?
[15:13] <auronandace> !anyone | mouth1
[15:14] <mouth1> haha ok thanks
[15:14] <mouth1> i have a HD6850 and want to install ubuntu and was wondering if that particular card is running smooth
[15:14] <mouth1> and wanted to ask if for that card it's best to use the open source crivers or the fglrx
[15:15] <mouth1> drivers*
[15:16] <x010100x> hello good day/afternoon/night
[15:17] <auronandace> mouth1: it apparently works but i couldn't tell you the performance sorry
[15:17] <lafon> mouth1, I have the 6670 and it works fine for me with open source drivers
[15:18] <mouth1> thanks
[15:18] <mouth1> lafon: 3D, too?
[15:18] <mouth1> like unity3d or games
[15:18] <auronandace> x010100x: greetings
[15:18] <carlo> c'è qualche italiano?
[15:18] <lafon> mouth1: 3D works-ish
[15:18] <auronandace> !it | carlo
[15:19] <lafon> mouth1: and do you mean unity web or the other one?
[15:19] <Roasted> What's the package called in Ubuntu where you set up remote desktop preferences for people viewing your screen?
[15:20] <lafon> I've heard that fglrx provides better 3D support but i can't be sure
[15:20] <auronandace> !unity | lafon
[15:20] <mouth1> hmm
[15:20] <mouth1> what's unity web?
[15:20] <KarateKip3> I want to boot from a USB-stick that I prepared on a Windows 7 machine. What format method should I use? NTFS, FAT, FAT32 or exFAT?
[15:20] <lafon> oh right. thanks auronandace
[15:20] <lafon> i've got lucid so i forgot 'bout unity?
[15:20] <lafon> .*
[15:21] <auronandace> lafon: unity is best forgotten i think :)
[15:21] <lafon> unity web only works on linux through LOTS of workarounds
[15:21] <killed> i dual boot ubuntu and opensuse linux ........and default grub is of opensuse ......so how i delete opensuse
[15:21] <killed> so that i dun get grub rescue
[15:22] <auronandace> killed: setup grub from the ubuntu partition
[15:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have an ubuntu box setup, it was able to access server.svcdpt.local, today it cannot.  That address works fine from windows though.  Ideas?
[15:22] <lafon> KarateKip3: did you use a program to create the usb or not?
[15:23] <killed> auronandace: can u explain me how
[15:23] <GH0> Hello, I sortave have an interesting issue here. I have apache2 installed, as well as apache2-common. However when I go to run the command sudo a2enmod ssl it comes back with the error "ERROR: Module ssl does not exist!". I just checked my mods_avail folder, and there is nothing listed. I attempted a reinstall of apache2-common to see if that would dump the module into the folder, but it doesn't
[15:23] <GH0> seem to have done the trick.
[15:23] <Roasted> "Desktop Sharing Preferences" What is the name of that package?
[15:23] <GH0> How would I be able to install the mod?
[15:24] <auronandace> killed: sudo grub-install /dev/sda (assuming sda is where you have the bootloader)
[15:25] <killed> kk i will give it  a try : auronandace
[15:26] <x010100x> there's a kind of tool who help me to make a restoring point, like restore the system before installing a package or soft
[15:26] <oCean> GH0: that's weird, ssl mod should be part of the -common package.. what version ubuntu?
[15:26] <GH0> 11.10
[15:26] <GH0> I think something is completely wrong with the installation. Is there a way to just clear out the entire apache2 installation (include etc, var/www, and other folders/files)?
[15:27] <GH0> Then start from scratch?
[15:27] <auronandace> !backup | x010100x
[15:27] <oCean> GH0: hang on, I'll start a 11.10 VM, see if the ssl module is there
[15:27] <GH0> oCean, I know the module is there, I have it on another machine.
[15:27] <GH0> Rather (is supposed to be there)
[15:27] <mneptok> GH0: which Ubuntu release is this?
[15:27] <Debro> how i can execute program with JDK 64bit, what command i shold use??
[15:27] <mneptok> GH0: oh, 11.10
[15:28] <tbrown> I have a question how can I get the most out of ubuntu in a virtual machine
[15:28] <oCean> GH0: ahh, ok. Yes, in that case I think a reinstall apache again, after an apt-get purge apache2-common
[15:28] <mneptok> GH0: ensure that the -common package is actually installed. that's where mod_ssl lives.
[15:28] <tbrown> I have a question how can I get the most out of ubuntu in a virtual machine
[15:28] <killed> kind of silly question but ...can u tell me how can i find where is my bootloader :auronandace
[15:28] <scar3crow> tbrown: use vmware
[15:28] <auronandace> killed: how many harddisks do you have?
[15:28] <Amis> Hello o/
[15:29] <auronandace> tbrown: define: get the most out of
[15:29] <auronandace> Amis: greetings
[15:29] <oCean> GH0, mneptok actual package name is apache2.2-common
[15:29] <nelson8874> LjL: i'm back again! it worked well.
[15:29] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have an ubuntu box setup, it was able to access server.svcdpt.local, today it cannot.  That address works fine from windows though.  Ideas?
[15:30] <killed> i have one ntfs partion and one partition where ubuntu is installed and one partition where opensuse is installed :auronandace
[15:30] <mneptok> oCean: and apache2-common isn't a metapackage pointing to the 2.2? that Ungood.
[15:30] <Amis> I'm using 10.04 and I had to hard reset my machine which were unable to shut down. Now my networks are gone and the /etc/network/interfaces file only contains 2 entires for "lo" interface (an auto and an iface). How can I fix it so it can see the ethernet and wlan again?
[15:30] <GH0> Hm, would this be suitable to do? andrew@server:~$ sudo apt-get purge apache2 apache2-doc apache2-mpm-worker apache2-suexec apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common
[15:30] <auronandace> killed: all on one harddrive?
[15:30] <tbrown> scar3crow: Okay thanks ya I been using virutalbox but I do like vmware auronandance: I mean get the most performance out of it using a virutal machine.
[15:30] <GH0> Just to make sure everything is gone and I am starting from scratch?
[15:30] <oCean> mneptok: apparently not, apt-cache policy says no candidate
[15:30] <killed> yea :auronandace
[15:31] <mneptok> oCean: ew.
[15:31] <Wejq> hi. Anyone could give me any goot tips for configuring wpa_supplicant for WPA-PSK with TKIP ?
[15:31] <auronandace> killed: what is the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[15:31] <Roasted> Question - What is the name of the "remote desktop" package that comes with Ubuntu preinstalled?
[15:31] <Wejq> i am kinda confused when i see the output of my attempts to get it right
[15:32] <killed> auronandace :fdisk -l
[15:32] <killed> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[15:32] <auronandace> !info vinagre | Roasted
[15:32] <killed> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
[15:32] <killed> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[15:32] <killed> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:32] <FloodBot1> killed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <Roasted> auronandace, that's not it.
[15:32] <killed> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:32] <scar3crow> Roasted: vino
[15:32] <Roasted> scar3crow, I don't think that is either.
[15:32] <Amis> Also more info: all I see is "Networking disabled" when clicking on the Wifi icon on the top bar
[15:32] <auronandace> killed: use a pastebin next time
[15:32] <Roasted> I had them both installed...
[15:32] <Amis> How can I restore the networks?
[15:32] <auronandace> killed: so the answer is sda
[15:32] <Jonathon> My sys folder is appearantly corrupted now, Bad shutdown I guess, Is there any way to fix this?  I was thinking that wasn't the name of tha package.
[15:34] <auronandace> killed: that way ubuntu's grub will be on the mbr and you can remove opensuse without messing up your bootloader
[15:34] <Unkn0wn> hnical
[15:35] <Guest76793> hey every one
[15:35] <Jonathon> My sys folder is appearantly corrupted now, Bad shutdown I guess, Is there any way to fix this? Or am I going to have to get the iso again ad boot that to fix it?
[15:35] <auronandace> !releases | tbrown
[15:35] <scar3crow> sorry Roasted: my desktop sharing seems fine
[15:35] <scar3crow> with vino
[15:35] <Roasted> scar3crow, I'm just trying to get it installed on my lubuntu machine but it won't show up in the menu. It's beyond frustrating.
[15:35] <Guest76793> anyone know how to get the unity working on verson 11.04 have to use classic mode
[15:36] <tbrown> Auronandance: uboutu: Thank you
[15:36] <auronandace> tbrown: no worries :)
[15:36] <killed> thanx auronandace:it worked
[15:37] <angs> what is the graphic card requirement for ubuntu?
[15:38] <auronandace> angs: what have you got, it will work with almost anything
[15:38] <nasa01> Hi, I am trying to package libraries/programs (from svn) that have older version in the main repository -- how do I prevent apt from installing those libraries from the repo?
[15:38] <auronandace> !pinning | nasa01
[15:39] <intelligentfool> can anyone help me out? I'm having trouble getting apache to parse php and i'm not sure exactly what i'm missing
[15:39] <angs> I have 8bit onboard video adapter, would ubuntu 11.10 work fine with it?
[15:39] <Amis> How can I restore lost networks after a hard-reset? I have "Networking disabled" under the Wifi icon on top bar and /etc/network/interfaces only have 2 entries for "lo", can't see any for eth0 or wlan0 or whatever they are called.
[15:39] <tbrown> does anyone know how to setup dns in ubuntu server
[15:39] <auronandace> nasa01: doing that though might result in quite a few dependency issues if you are not careful
[15:39] <the-master> I have been trying to root my Samsung Stratosphere using the newest version of Ubuntu.  I am trying to use Heimdall.  Heimdall detects my device, but when I try to flash in the kernel, it says: Handshaking with Loke.  ERROR: Failed to receive response!.  Can anyone help me with this?
[15:40] <Debro> how i can execute JAR program with JDK 64bit, what command i shold use??
[15:40] <scar3crow> Roasted: try: remmina
[15:40] <nasa01> auronandace, I hope to not create problems there as well.
[15:40] <auronandace> angs: what brand, how old is it?
[15:41] <nasa01> auronandace, do you know of a way to do what I am trying to do?
[15:41] <prakash__> hey
[15:41] <auronandace> angs: what point are you at? have you tried installing yet?
[15:42] <angs> auronandace: actually I dont know, I just found the pc on storage
[15:42] <prakash__> hello can any1 help me
[15:42] <angs> I installed ubuntu and it works fine, I am just surprised that it works fine
[15:42] <auronandace> nasa01: sorry, not sure, i prefer arch's pacman over apt-get any day
[15:43] <the-master> Prakash, just ask your question, if someone can help you they will
[15:43] <nasa01> np
[15:43] <auronandace> angs: linux has great hardware support, glad it works for you :)
[15:44] <angs> I installed vista, it works very shitty, although ubuntu has cooler graphics
[15:44] <angs> how come ubuntu works that good :)
[15:44] <mouth1> why does ubuntu show my disk as "SCSI4" in the installation? is that bad?
[15:44] <auronandace> angs: welcome to open source
[15:45] <angs> thanks :)
[15:45] <the-master> I have been trying to root my Samsung Stratosphere using the newest version of Ubuntu.  I am trying to use Heimdall.  Heimdall detects my device, but when I try to flash in the kernel, it says: Handshaking with Loke.  ERROR: Failed to receive response!.  Can anyone help me with this?
[15:45] <rebe> angs that's because Bill Gates sucks satan cock, and we don't
[15:45] <auronandace> the-master: i don't think rooting devices is supported here
[15:46] <piglit> angs: Linux isnt so hard to understand anymore. 7 Years ago it was more difficult now it is usable even for people with brains and interest in pc's and no Linux experience
[15:46] <scar3crow> Roasted: terminal --> vino-preferences
[15:46] <auronandace> !language | rebe
[15:46] <Roasted> scar3crow, oh my gosh, there it is.
[15:46] <scar3crow> yw
[15:46] <Roasted> scar3crow, why is Lubuntu so fail and not make this in the menu?
[15:46] <the-master> Auron: If someone could direct me to where I need to go, that would be extremely helpful
[15:47] <auronandace> !alis | the-master
[15:47] <scar3crow> Roasted: dunnu... i stick with ubuntu
[15:47] <Roasted> scar3crow, I'm thinking so too.
[15:47] <Roasted> scar3crow, or even Debian for that matter.
[15:49] <the-master> Auron: Thank you
[15:49] <erpo> How can my load average be 11 when my cpu usage is so low?  3.2%us,  1.2%sy,  0.0%ni, 95.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[15:50] <Myrtti> erpo: slow harddrives, slow ram
[15:50] <enigma> ssh: Could not resolve hostname jonis: Name or service not known
[15:50] <enigma> ?
[15:50] <enigma> why
[15:50] <auronandace> erpo: because it is an average, sometime the cpu is used a lot
[15:50] <tsimpson> erpo: which number is 11? first, second, or third?
[15:50] <erpo>  load average: 11.00, 11.02, 11.04
[15:51] <erpo> Myrtti: SSD. 4GB of DDR2.
[15:52] <enigma> hi .. when i try connect  using ssh to another pc i  got this
[15:52] <enigma> ssh: Could not resolve hostname jonis: Name or service not known
[15:52] <erpo> enigma: Try jonis.local instead.
[15:52] <enigma> ssh xxxxx@xxxxx
[15:52] <enigma> ok
[15:53] <froginvasion> i've got some problems with jack server. at first any music player gave errors (not fatal) that jack server was not running, so i installed jack, started it using "jackd -R -d alsa". the same problem occurs (no music) but no 'no jack server running' message anymore. though aqualung, a player that is recommended to test jack playback is just running fine...
[15:53] <mouth1> why does ubuntu show my disk as "SCSI4" in the installation? is that bad?
[15:54] <enigma> thanks erpo  solved :)
[15:54] <arbiel> Hi there
[15:54] <erpo> mouth1: Is it the right size with the right partitions?
[15:54] <arbiel> I'm experiencing a difficulty with the unmounting of an iso file previously mounted without the sudo command. For that purpose, I added a line into my /etc/fstab file with the noauto,users options. Before issuing the mount command, I create a softlink to target the iso file I want to mount. The mount command works perfectly. The mount command (no parameters, no options) lists the mounted files, and this listing lists the iso file itsel
[15:55] <auronandace> !iso | arbiel
[15:55] <arbiel> So the umount command does not accept the unmounting of the file without the sudo command. When I use hardlinks instead of softlink, everything works perfectly. Does anyone know where I missed an option to have the softlist recorded in the mtab file, or if this behaviour is faulty and should be recorded to the developpers ?
[15:55] <Wejq> Need help with wpa_supplicant to WPA-PSK with TKIP
[15:56] <bazhang> !wifi | Wejq
[15:56] <iNeal> How can I know if grub is working or not?
[15:56] <auronandace> iNeal: boot from it
[15:56] <froginvasion> exactly...
[15:56] <iNeal> I mean on a server
[15:57] <arbiel> ubottu :  I'm sorry, I know how to mount an iso file as you instruct me to do. The problem is I do not want to have to use sudo
[15:57] <auronandace> iNeal: servers need to boot too
[15:57] <erpo> arbiel: It doesn't make sense to allow users to mount a softlink because a softlink could go anywhere. You might as well allow users to mount anything anywhere. Try cdemu for your "mount as a user" needs.
[15:57] <iNeal> I'm trying to update my kernel and according to the tutorials, it should work
[15:57] <auronandace> arbiel: why don't you want to use sudo for mounting?
[15:57] <iNeal> The kernel that is right now is not even on the gurb list anymore
[15:57] <mouth1> erpo: yes
[15:58] <mouth1> it is the right size and the right hard disk
[15:58] <arbiel> erpo : I'm sorry, it makes senses. All this will be recorded into a bash script which I control
[15:58] <erpo> mouth1: You're worried because it's a SATA/ATA disk and it's showing up as SCSI?
[15:58] <mouth1> yes
[15:58] <froginvasion> iNeal let grub regenerate it's config file and update accordingly, and are you sure the kernel is still on your hard disk?
[15:58] <mouth1> i have AHCI enabled in BIOD
[15:58] <auronandace> arbiel: so you want anyone to mount anything anywhere?
[15:58] <mouth1> BIOS
[15:58] <mouth1> does that matter?
[15:59] <erpo> mouth1: That's normal now. Linux classifies a lot of SATA/ATA controllers as SCSI controllers. Continue. :)
[15:59] <arbiel> auronandace : that's because users are disabled people, and the less they have to do, the better
[15:59] <auronandace> arbiel: and you don't see the potential security issues of that?
[15:59] <iNeal> froginvasion: I did regenerate the config. The old kernel (that i don't want) is not. And the generic one that I want is.
[16:00] <arbiel> auronandace : there is no security problem. The situation is as follows : the PC to be used are not connected to anything, no Internet, no network. The iso files are Windows games which I want to run with Wine
[16:01] <auronandace> arbiel: how do you keep them up to date?
[16:01] <erpo> arbiel: Use cdemu.
[16:02] <froginvasion> iNeal i can assume you'd rather not reboot before your config is okay.  but i have no clue from here on
[16:02] <erpo> arbiel: It even has a nice GUI frontend called gcdemu.
[16:02] <froginvasion> iNeal you might be more luck in #grub channel
[16:02] <iNeal> froginvasion: thanks
[16:02] <bali> i need the help of a C programmer
[16:03] <auronandace> bali: that is why you turn to #ubuntu?
[16:03] <sudipta> I have a problem with conky.....its edges are not looking good with any theme....can anyone help?
[16:03] <erpo> bali: Maybe try #c?
[16:03] <bali> yeap
[16:03] <arbiel> I don't need my PC to be kept uptodate. For the moment, the PC still use Windows 98. And if I want to update the system, I take a hard disk out , bring it home, connect it to my PC as an extrenal device, make a Clonezilla copy and bring back to the other PC
[16:04] <auronandace> arbiel: awesome, sounds like you have your bases fully covered
[16:04] <bazhang> sudipta, tried #conky ? read the beginners guide?
[16:05] <arbiel> auronandace : sorry, I do not understand your sentence
[16:05] <sudipta> bazhang:it used to work well....dont know what hapeened
[16:05] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076  sudipta
[16:05] <bali> am using the ubuntu for school work
[16:05] <auronandace> arbiel: i meant you have a good strategy, you've thought it through well
[16:06] <arbiel> auronandace : thank you
[16:07] <bali> I need to Write a program that defines the ten digits, through 9, as constants ZERO through NINE. Add these ten defined digits together and print the results. in C
[16:07] <bazhang> bali, ask in the C channel then
[16:07] <bali> how do i locate it
[16:07] <auronandace> !alis | bali
[16:08] <Pumpkin-> also, asking on IRC how to do your homework isn't always the best way to learn things ...
[16:08] <bazhang> bali, /join #c
[16:08] <arbiel> In fact, I solved my problem in creating a hardlink rather than a softlink. However, on the ubuntu.fr forum, when I reported this issue, I've been told by a user that he had had no difficulty in umounting an file event if he had used a softlink
[16:10] <arbiel> So my present point in coming here is rather to know if I should report a bug to launchpad or if I missed an option to have to softlink recorded into the mtab file
[16:10] <sudipta> I have a problem with conky.....its edges are not looking good with any theme....can anyone help?
[16:10] <bazhang> sudipta, read the beginners guide I gave you
[16:11] <auronandace> sudipta: screenshot to the rescue!
[16:11] <sudipta> bazhang:sorry....this line was supposed to be on the other chanel...
[16:14] <TechIsCool> can anyone help me with a boot problem I can't seem to get it working I can mount the hdd in the live cd and see all the files but when the computer boots it flashes no disk found and then says sbin/init not found
[16:15] <TechIsCool> I also tried to fix grub and here is what the output ran http://paste.ubuntu.com/930588/
[16:17] <tbrown> something happen to the virutal machine when I was gone trying to install ubuntu and it just crashed
[16:17] <auronandace> tbrown: that is so totally awesome
[16:17] <tbrown> auronandance: lol I know right it like it cant get better than that right:)
[16:18] <sudipta> auronandace:http://imgur.com/SVG3B
[16:18] <auronandace> sudipta: ah yes, its a compiz setting you need to edit
[16:19] <auronandace> sudipta: hang on
[16:19] <tbrown> What is the best way to learn the command promt in ubuntu do you know a youtube videos that I can watch or something
[16:20] <sudipta> tbrown:"the more you practice what you know,the  more you know what to practice"
[16:20] <bazhang> tbrown, bash commands?
[16:21] <sudipta> auronandace:are you there?
[16:21] <tbrown> bazhang: what is bash commands
[16:21] <auronandace> sudipta: can you open ccsm? then window management
[16:21] <bazhang> tbrown, the stuff you type in the terminal
[16:21] <auronandace> sudipta: go to window rules
[16:21] <sudipta> auronandace:ok
[16:22] <bazhang> !terminal | tbrown
[16:22] <auronandace> sudipta: In each of the following boxes add the following entry “class=Conky”. Skip Taskbar, Skip Pager, Below, Sticky, None movable windows, Non resizable windows, Non minimizable windows, Non Maximizable windows, None closable windows, and No Focus. This will force conky to remain below your windows and sit on all desktops
[16:26] <exploitable> Is there anyone using KDE, Unity and Xfce on the same machine?
[16:26] <ProfessorBacon> i always explore different window managers
[16:27] <physically_fit> anyone can tell me a good flash replacement/alternative that works in Chromium. thanks.
[16:27] <auronandace> physically_fit: theres gnash and lightspark
[16:27] <auronandace> physically_fit: how well they work varies considerably
[16:27] <physically_fit> auronandace, do they work in chromium?
[16:28] <auronandace> physically_fit: try and see
[16:28] <KarateKip3> why do i need to do MD5 checksum when i download the ISO? When I download other software and install, there's no errors because error checking is already done in the datalink layer and etwork layer (OSI-model), right?
[16:28] <physically_fit> auronandace, thanks for the suggestions.
[16:29] <DrArcheh> KarateKip3: the iso could be corrupt or modified on a mirror
[16:29] <luxius> Hello. So I found out my box drops eth0 and reconnects it using DHCP. I have hard coded it once, so it initially uses <IP_ADDRESS>, but suddenly it decides to reconnect and use DHCP. Now ...
[16:29] <luxius>  I found out it was set to DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces ... changed that to static
[16:29] <luxius> but WHERE does it "circumvent" this setting and use the DHCP I earlier setup?
[16:29] <AnonV> v
[16:29] <luxius> I mean static IP, of course
[16:30] <jpds> DrArcheh: Then MD5SUM check it; it's probably not corrupted on the mirror as they're synced by rsync.
[16:30] <AnonV> hi
[16:30] <exploitable> Hello
[16:30] <auronandace> luxius: iirc networkmanager will overwrite /etc/network/interfaces
[16:30] <DrArcheh> luxius: NetworkManager?
[16:31] <AnonV> -_-
[16:31] <auronandace> AnonV: greetings
[16:31] <AnonV> hi
[16:32] <luxius> thanks, auronandace & DrArcheh - how do I get rid of it? =)
[16:32] <luxius> cause it obviously don't work ...
[16:34] <exploitable> Is Lubuntu faster than Xubuntu?
[16:35] <auronandace> exploitable: it is lighter
[16:35] <luxius> does anyone know how to get rid of NetworkManager?
[16:35] <exploitable> is it worth changing from Unity?
[16:35] <Gnea> luxius: install wicd
[16:35] <auronandace> exploitable: depends on what you like and how bad your performance is on unity
[16:36] <luxius> Gnea, what is wicd?
[16:36] <auronandace> !info wicd | luxius
[16:36] <luxius> exploitable, it is VERY MUCH worth getting rid of Unity
[16:36] <exploitable> auronandace: Well, I'm using a netbook....
[16:36] <luxius> I don't need another network manager, do I?
[16:36] <auronandace> exploitable: that doesn't tell me much
[16:37] <auronandace> exploitable: ironically unity is meant for netbooks
[16:37] <exploitable> auronandace: The Netbook Distro?
[16:37] <exploitable> auronandace: But Unity is sooooo slow (and buggy?)
[16:38] <luxius> Unity2d should use less resources, yes, but it's crappy and unstable
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> luxius  not according to people wjo like Unity
[16:38] <auronandace> exploitable: i haven't tried it myself, i'll try unity when they release 12.04 though, but i expect i'll end up sticking with xfce
[16:39] <Gnea> luxius: why do you need to get rid of networkmanager?
[16:39] <luxius> exploitable, I can recommend xfce
[16:39] <ProfessorBacon> i actually just started using unity, but on an older machine.  i like the new experience but it is pretty slow.  for example, changing from one channel to another in irssi takes about half a second.
[16:39] <luxius> Gnea, cause it doesn't work. I just want to use the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <exploitable> auronandace: I've used it before and it's very fast, but I think I'll try Lubuntu...
[16:40] <auronandace> exploitable: hope its fast for you
[16:40] <Gnea> luxius: well, you can't simply "get rid of it", but using the interfaces file automagically overrides anything that NetworkManager does.  I like to keep it because it will tell me when my network connection has been established and not established, that's about all that it's good for to me.
[16:40] <exploitable> auronandace: Well, we'll see. Bye.
[16:41] <Gnea> luxius: unless the interfaces file is setup the 'original' way, that is, the way it was installed as, networkmanager just won't work
[16:42] <luxius> Gnea, I'm just curious why it used to connect with a static IP and suddenly reconnects using DHCP. The interfaces file was setup to use DHCP - so where are the other settings hidden, and why wouldn't it use those on a reboot?
[16:43] <dadadu66> salut
[16:43] <Gnea> luxius: well, NM saves its settings elsewhere.  it sees that the interfaces file is original and then pulls its own config.  unless you tell NM to be useful for other users, it's only going to be used when you login
[16:44] <luxius> Gnea, that's actually smart, if it does indeed recognise changes ...
[16:45] <luxius> Gnea, good enough for me. Thanks for the answers =)
[16:45] <Gnea> luxius: cheers :)
[16:45] <luxius> I usually find my help in #debian, because ... honestly, they know more about the core system. But they refused to help me with this when I mentioned Ubuntu.
[16:45] <Gnea> yeah
[16:45] <luxius> I can't blame them, they are religious zealots, like most people are, but ...
[16:46] <Gnea> Ubuntu is not Debian, and vice versa... the only thing that's similar is the package management system (.deb files)
[16:46] <luxius> I know, but still? =)
[16:46] <Gnea> that's "core" :)
[16:46] <luxius> One did mention the location of interfaces (the file), which brought me to this point
[16:46] <luxius> which was helpful while trying to mock me ... -.-
[16:47] <Gnea> yeah, there are a lot of philosophical reasons why they won't do certain things... all within good reason
[16:47] <Jonathon> How can I delete a directory that when I try to delete only says Input/output error?
[16:47] <luxius> yes, within good reason, but the reason stops when the arguments are flawed
[16:47] <Gnea> Jonathon: ooo, that's bad. you should reboot and fsck.
[16:47] <luxius> Gnea, I mean, it's still iptables, /etc/network, etc.
[16:47] <Jonathon> Gnea, fsck comes up clean, shows no errors at all
[16:47] <DeLorean719> I'm running a wireless card in monitor mode, is there a way to specify a channel for it (I'm playing with aireplay and it's telling me that the channel of the AP doesn't match the channel of my mon interface)
[16:48] <Gnea> luxius: that's where many people go wrong.
[16:48] <luxius> really?
[16:48] <Gnea> Jonathon: force it: fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sdX#
[16:48] <Gnea> Jonathon: just make sure it's not mounted
[16:49] <Jonathon> Gnea, alright, I'll try that
[16:49] <comgen> Jonathon : drop to terminal BUT first warning this will PURGE THE DIR or ANY FILE you target type : sudo rm -rf DIRnameHere  , see what happens
[16:50] <Gnea> luxius: well yeah, they start making excuses that have nothing to do with the actual problem. they consider themselves experts and to not know something is, to them, a sign of weakness. :)
[16:50] <Jonathon> comgen, I get the same IO error
[16:50] <Gnea> comgen: that's what he's trying to do.
[16:50] <luxius> Gnea, thanks, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking.
[16:50] <luxius> Gnea, in a second I thought you meant "that's where most go wrong, it is NOT the same system"
[16:51] <Gnea> luxius: they lack that crucial bit that lets them consider a weakness as a strength, instead of simply attempting to purge it
[16:52] <Gnea> luxius: at any rate, this conversation has strayed toward off-topicness, but it was a good one, nonetheless :)
[16:53] <comgen> Jonathon : sounds like disk / filesys issues if you haven't already boot into recovery try : e2fsck -cfv /dev/sda-device-here
[16:53] <luxius> Gnea, you're right on all accounts. At least I feel a bit less alone in the world now ;)
[16:53] <Jonathon> comgen, Yea, I ran the fsck with the -f command, that found a bunch of stuff, so gonna remount now see if it's fixed
[16:54] <comgen> Jonathon : the " -c " flag will also check for bad blocks - will take awhile to run - best of luck
[16:55] <Jonathon> comgen, Thanks, but I believe the problem is resolved now :)
[16:55] <Jonathon> On to the next problem
[16:56] <Nik05> hey guys
[16:56] <Nik05> Is there a problem with passwd in Lucid?
[16:56] <Nik05> I wanted to change a password of a user and used sudo
[16:56] <Jonathon> The directory that was causing trouble was my sys directory, so now it's gone. Can I copy the sys from this livecd into the sys folder of my install?
[16:56] <Nik05> it asked for new password x2, and then it hang for 2 minutes
[16:57] <Nik05> after that it said password changed sucessfully
[16:57] <comgen> Nik05 : sudo passwd  = will change roots password not the user just type passwd
[16:57] <Nik05> sudo passwd username
[16:58] <Nik05> that should work right? and is it normal that it hangs for 2 minutes?
[16:58] <sorrow> I noticed that the NOPASSWD doesn't work in /etc/sudoers in my lucid build
[16:58] <sorrow> always still asks for the password when I use sudo
[16:59] <Nik05> euh thats not my problem
[16:59] <Jonathon> comgen, The directory that was causing trouble was my sys directory, so now it's gone. Can I copy the sys from this livecd into the sys folder of my install?
[16:59] <comgen> sorrow : add this to the very bottom of sudoers : %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[17:00] <dr3mro> hello . what is the best netbook to run ubuntu 12.04 with .. In egypt we don't have ubuntu shipped with computers and i need a netbook that is good performance and long battery life with 10 inch display that can run ubuntu unity 3d smoothly
[17:00] <luxius> sorrow, removing the password query is removing all security on your root account - are you sure you want that?
[17:00] <dan__> silly question sorry a bit new to linux
[17:00] <dan__> anyone no how to use a run file
[17:01] <mouth1> should i install "GStreamer extra plugins" or "Ubuntu restricted extras"?
[17:01] <Nik05> dan with sh
[17:01] <bekks> dr3mro: There are no "best" choices, and 12.04 is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[17:01] <Guest41817> silly question sorry a bit new to linux. Does anyone no how to run a .run file i have been to the amd website to try and get drivers for my radeon hd 5 series but the files it has given me is a .run file which doesnt seem to want to work...
[17:01] <Nik05> make it executable then do ./foo.run
[17:01] <jovin> dan__ sh fie.run or ./file.run
[17:01] <o2simo20> dr3mro: alienware m11x :P
[17:01] <comgen> Jonathon : I would backup, reinstall / upgrade since you had system area file damage <<-- that's just my pref.
[17:02] <Guest41817> that aimed at me nik05?
[17:02] <Nik05> yes
[17:02] <aaa801> I have a ubuntu 11.1 dist running on a rack server i use for hobbie stuff, it is a headed unit, when i try and resume it from its standby thing it takes a long time for the pw box to popup
[17:02] <Nik05> you are dan
[17:02] <Nik05> right?
[17:02] <aaa801> is there any way i can make it either not go into standby
[17:02] <aaa801> ?
[17:02] <Guest41817> sorry changed my nick didnt realise i was hah!
[17:02] <luxius> dr3mro, you should concentrate on the hardware, not what software you want to run on it (that's a different question) - as long as it's running the kind of machine code you need (i.e. x86, x64, etc.)
[17:02] <Guest41817> ok so make it an executable then do /foo.run
[17:03] <Nik05> ./foo.run
[17:03] <Guest41817> sadly i have no idea how to do it mind telling me in seriously basic terms?
[17:03] <Guest41817> this is the first time ive actually used / installed linux
[17:03] <Nik05> well start your terminal
[17:03] <luxius> dr3mro, but you could check the hardware list for driver compatibility in Ubuntu repositories before buying anything =)
[17:03] <jovin> chmod +x file
[17:03] <Nik05> use cd to go to the directory
[17:03] <junaidnaseer> hi all, how can one see the parent directory of a deleted file using ntfsundelete ??? thanks ... :)
[17:03] <mouth1> should i install "GStreamer extra plugins" or "Ubuntu restricted extras"?
[17:03] <gridbag> where do you go to configure more workspacs? I see nothing in System Settings...
[17:03] <Nik05> do what jovin said `chmod +x file.run'
[17:03] <comgen> mouth1 : Ubuntu restricted
[17:03] <sorrow> luxius: yes
[17:04] <Nik05> then do `./file.run'
[17:04] <mouth1> thanks comgen
[17:04] <luxius> sorrow, then why not just log on as root? =)
[17:04] <Guest41817> o god im terrible at this
[17:05] <Guest41817> first times ive used terminal
[17:05] <sorrow> I'm sure someone is gonna inject some shellcode into xchat to root me
[17:05] <Guest41817> all new to me
[17:05] <Guest41817> appreciate the help btw
[17:05]  * aaa801 whips out backtrack and aims at sorrow
[17:06] <comgen> sorrow : give this a read if you're worried about #ubuntu support : https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:06] <tbrown> I need to know were I can learn the command on ubuntu so I can work with the server
[17:07] <luxius> Guest41817, I remember my first time on a linux (my own install, that is). I spent a good day or two trying to install nVidia drivers. Debian doesn't like anything without a FREE license. It involved compiling drivers and other stuff I've forgotten all about
[17:07] <Guest41817> haha yeah
[17:07] <luxius> Guest41817, those days I didn't have this kind of help ;)
[17:07] <Guest41817> well im good with computers and starting get prettygood with web design but this is a whole other world
[17:08] <comgen> tbrown : if you're new to linux servers give http://www.webmin.com a try
[17:08] <Guest41817> never used terminal or anything like it so its hugely different from what im used to haha
[17:08] <luxius> Guest41817, welcome to it. If it doesn't discourage you I bet it'll broaden your perspectives on IT ;)
[17:08] <auronandace> !webmin | comgen
[17:08] <fidel> tbrown: which "command"? or are you talking about general getting used to cli?
[17:08] <Guest41817> any other good sites to learn stuff? which i could book mark now?
[17:09] <luxius> Guest41817, http://www.debian.org/ - even if you use Ubuntu, you should get familiar with Debian as well.
[17:09] <luxius> Guest41817, just don't expect any "true" Debian users to help you, they disrespect Ubuntu plenty.
[17:10] <Guest41817> ah haha
[17:10] <Guest41817> well im sat here struggling with the cd function in terminals so im miles away from anything substantial to be honest
[17:10] <Guest41817> but ill save that
[17:10] <luxius> and even though I use Ubuntu I usually find more help in #debian :P
[17:10] <Guest41817> is debian annother distro?
[17:10] <luxius> yes
[17:10] <luxius> Ubuntu is built on the foundation of Debina
[17:10] <luxius> Debian*
[17:10] <Guest41817> ah
[17:11] <luxius> Debian is strict, BUT stable for the same reasons
[17:11] <luxius> Try to stear clear of Ubuntu bloatware, the Ubuntu Software Center is a good example. It doesn't work very well >_<
[17:11] <Guest41817> ok really rookie question here
[17:11] <Guest41817> im in terminal
[17:12] <Guest41817> i use dir i can see there is a download folder
[17:12] <luxius> Guest41817, I see Ubuntu as a Windoze version of Debian core. That's not precise, but close.
[17:12] <Guest41817> to go to that folder would i use cd /downloads/?
[17:12] <DeLorean719> what's a decent maca ddress changer I can get from apt-get?
[17:12] <o2simo20> just cd downloads
[17:12] <Juv1228> hello, im having some issues with gnome under ubuntu 11.10 here
[17:12] <luxius> Guest41817, get used to ls (list) as command, instead of dir
[17:12] <tbrown> comgen: What is WebMin is a distro or something
[17:12] <Guest41817> ah damn its cap sensitive
[17:12] <Guest41817> haha!
[17:12] <Guest41817> was wondering why it wasnt working !
[17:12] <Guest41817> brilliant
[17:12] <bynw> Guest41817: remember also that Linux is caSe SenSiTivE as well. So if the folder is Downloads you will need a D instead of a d
[17:13] <Juv1228> im using the 'gnome classic' at login and randomly it will crash of sorts and the theme goes to the bare bones looking one
[17:13] <Guest41817> yeah just had that problem
[17:13] <Nik05> Guest15469, cd Downloads ;)
[17:13] <Guest41817> ok so now im in the right folder!\
[17:13] <luxius> Guest41817, case sensitivity is saved from the old Unix days, which seems irrelevant but is in fact ingenious.
[17:13] <yeats> !webmin | tbrown
[17:13] <luxius> Guest41817, you should try tab completion. Type the first couple of letters, then hit the <TAB> key, it will try to complete your command/file name
[17:13] <Nik05> Guest15469, now time chmod +x and then the first letters of the file
[17:14] <Guest41817> ah!
[17:14] <Nik05> then press TAB, it will complete the file for you ;)
[17:14] <tbrown> Thanks: ubottu
[17:14] <Guest41817> doesnt seem to have done anything...
[17:14] <luxius> what?
[17:14] <Guest41817> what does the chmod function do?
[17:14] <luxius> change mode
[17:15] <testi> I installed packages from a foreign repository. How do undo this? I don't remember the packages.
[17:15] <luxius> you change different switches on a file
[17:15] <luxius> the x is for executable, so it has to have the x flag to be executed
[17:15] <luxius> try googling 'chmod' ;)
[17:15] <Juv1228> heres an example of what im talking about -> http://i.juvsoft.com/gnome-crash.png
[17:15] <Nik05> or type man chmod ;)
[17:15] <luxius> man
[17:15] <luxius> you NEED to know man
[17:15] <luxius> man (for manual) is the command to look up help files on ALL (debian verified) commands
[17:16] <Juv1228> my usual theme is the default ubuntu one
[17:16] <TechIsCool> I also tried to fix grub and here is what the output ran http://paste.ubuntu.com/930588/
[17:16] <luxius> Guest41817, try typing "man man" and hit enter =)
[17:16] <Guest41817> there is just so much to learn haha!
[17:16] <Guest41817> its brilliant
[17:16] <Guest41817> heh i will do the man man stuff after ive got these drivers on
[17:16] <Guest41817> its just so different from windows
[17:17] <Guest41817> took me forever to find out how to open terminal
[17:17] <Guest41817> is brilliant
[17:17] <luxius> right, well, you're in the exploration phase, man everything new. Like ... you can man sudo, man ls, man cd
[17:17] <luxius> at least I think you can xD
[17:17] <luxius> yup, all commands have a man page
[17:18] <Guest41817> ahhhh
[17:18] <Guest41817> so chmod makes it runable!
[17:18] <Guest41817> doesnt run it in terminal
[17:18] <Guest41817> brilliant!
[17:18] <llutz> luxius: you can't "man cd" since its a shell-builtin
[17:18] <luxius> Guest41817, some other helpful tools are grep, more (or less - yes, commands are more/less), cat, tail ...
[17:18] <luxius> llutz, okay, hehe =)
[17:19] <luxius> llutz, I thought 'ls' was, too
[17:19] <o2simo20> different commands, man ls and man less
[17:19] <Guest41817> are there any good tutorial sites to learn linux and things like this?
[17:19] <o2simo20> different functions
[17:19] <TorbenBeta> Guest41817, of course there are.
[17:19] <Guest41817> no any good ones?
[17:20] <gsr> Hi all.  I have a broken key, the "delete / dot".  Its also, luckily, one of the few keyboard keys I never use - so I just want to turn it off.  its keycode is 91, and "xmodmap -e 'keycode 91 = NoSymbol'" works.  I put that line in ~/.bash_profile, but when i login the button is still enabled.  Is there somewhere else I should be putting the command?
[17:20] <luxius> Guest41817, in fact there are so many we don't know where to start ...
[17:20] <physically_fit> anyone can tell me a good flash replacement/alternative that works in Chromium. gnash and lightspark don't work in Chromium. html5 crashes too.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest41817  the best way to learn is by using it, like we all did
[17:20] <Juv1228> Guest41817, i found the easiest way to learn this stuff is to just google specific things that you are trying to accomplish
[17:20] <luxius> Guest41817, best way to "learning by doing" is having case scenarios. You want to hook up eth0 to the internet? Fix it, you learn how iptables work.
[17:20] <TorbenBeta> Guest41817, do you search for Linux in general or Bash?
[17:20] <Guest41817> ah right well i guess ill start by that thats how i got it installed and so forth
[17:21] <Guest41817> linux is general
[17:21] <Guest41817> or ubuntu
[17:21] <luxius> linux
[17:21] <Juv1228> anyway, has anyone else had gnome 'crash' its theme?
[17:21] <gvo> gsr try putting it in .bash_rc
[17:21] <Guest41817> but i mean if there are so nice basic tutorial sites it wouldnt hurt
[17:21] <Guest41817> as its how i learnt most of my web design i no there are some great ones out there
[17:21] <physically_fit> i think i'll have to say bye-bye to Chromium then.
[17:21] <luxius> there are different distributions with slight differences in fs (file system) and package handling, but linux is linux, Guest41817 (that statement is SO wrong, but not for a newbie)
[17:22] <Guest41817> shame about dreamweaver and photoshop not working greatly on linux though
[17:22] <Juv1228> it randomly goes from http://i.juvsoft.com/desktop.png to http://i.juvsoft.com/gnome-crash.png
[17:22] <comgen> guest41817 : give this a read : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Oneiric
[17:22] <gsr> gvo: i think that would work, but wouldn't it execute it every time a new shell is opened?
[17:22] <gvo> Yes, but so what?
[17:22] <Guest41817> definately need to learn alot so i can start hosting the websites i make
[17:23] <luxius> Guest41817, most professional artists with computer literacy choose the Gnome paint program, anyway :P
[17:23] <Guest41817> bit of extra money never hurt
[17:23] <luxius> can't remember the name of it
[17:23] <Juv1228> the screen just flashes blank for a few seconds and then it comes back as that, but my session is unharmed.  the only way i have found to fix it so far is by restarting
[17:23] <ssta> gimp
[17:23] <gsr> gvo: I guess it doesn't matter.  just that it defeats the purpose of having .bashrc and .bash_profile
[17:23] <DanGeorge> one question i do have is
[17:23] <DanGeorge> why would amd make the .run file not executable?
[17:24] <gvo> gsr Not really.  xmodmap affects the running shell.  Putting in a login script doesn't have any effect.
[17:24] <DanGeorge> why would they make it so i had to do the chmod function?
[17:24] <luxius> DanGeorge, you don't copy the chmod flags
[17:24] <luxius> DanGeorge, it's about system protection and system management control ;)
[17:24] <gsr> gvo: ahh i see,  thanks
[17:24] <DanGeorge> right..
[17:24] <DanGeorge> i see
[17:24] <gridbag> I'm in the workspace switcher, but there are no options!
[17:24] <ssta> DanGeorge: how would they make it executable?  It's your system, not theirs.  They on't get to decide what is and isn't executable
[17:24] <DanGeorge> ahh ive got so much too read
[17:25] <DanGeorge> i see..
[17:25] <luxius> DanGeorge, any executable you download you will have to chmod +x first
[17:25] <DanGeorge> damn so much to learn
[17:25] <DanGeorge> well thanks for all the help guys! if you ever need some help yourselves dont hestitate to ask
[17:25] <DanGeorge> haha
[17:25] <DanGeorge> not sure how i could help but alas
[17:25] <DanGeorge> time for me to go make some dinner i think
[17:25] <Nik05> i have a question ;)
[17:25] <Axz> good day people any idea why is gnomebaker not working on 12.04?
[17:26] <Axz> anyone else having same issues?!
[17:26] <dreinull> I'm in virtualbox and I upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 via 04. Now gdm or whatever there is doesn't start. All I get is my console. Is there a way to fix this?
[17:26] <Nik05> But is there someone that know the problem that passwd hangs for 2 minutes after changeing password?
[17:26] <gvo> Axz: 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[17:27] <comgen> Axz : I switched to brasero  awhile back haven't had any probs
[17:27] <Axz> brasero somehow takes ages to burn checking allot...
[17:28] <comgen> Axz : you can disable a few plugins which will speed up things <<-- up to the user tho
[17:28] <emiliogm> hi
[17:34] <Rahul> how get out of x-mode in ubuntu ?
[17:34] <tbrown> running updates right know in ubuntu if I have package that I download to ubuntu what is the command that I put in to download the package
[17:35] <gvo> Rahul: what do you mean by x-mode?
[17:35] <auronandace> Rahul: you mean you want to get to a tty?
[17:35] <DanGeorge> Sorry annother nice easy question im dual booting this ubuntu with windows 7 and installed ubuntu via wubi. When i start up if left would automatically boot into windows 7 rather than ubuntu anyway of changeing this?
[17:35] <shaheen> Hi, I just installed ubuntu but I can't boot from windows anymore. my files are safe but when I want to boot to windows it crashes :(
[17:35] <Rahul> my cursor showing x symbol and i am getting only terminal
[17:36] <Rahul> gvo, auronandace  did you get my question  ?
[17:36] <auronandace> tbrown: to update do the following: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:36] <ardian> any ideas on nvidia optimus ?
[17:37] <gvo> Rahul: missing window manager maybe?
[17:37] <auronandace> ardian: optimus isn't really supported yet
[17:37] <gvo> Rahul: how did you get to this stage?
[17:37] <Rahul> how to install that gvo ?
[17:37] <ardian> auronandace, I have 2 Graphic Cards I also have the Intel one
[17:37] <Rahul> i have removed a lock file
[17:37] <ardian> can I stop nvidia somehow ? and only use the Intel one
[17:38] <Rahul> i have removed a lock file gvo
[17:38] <comgen> tbrown : if you downloaded a .deb then: sudo dpkg -i name-of-package-here  , apt-cache search something-to-look-for-here  , sudp apt-get install packagename-here anotherone-here and-so-on
[17:38] <auronandace> ardian: if there is an option to do that in the bios then you can yes
[17:38] <gvo> Rahul: OK it was working before that?
[17:38] <Rahul> gvo : yes
[17:38] <fidel> ardian: checked bumblebee?
[17:38] <tbrown> auronandace that what I ran to get the updates what is the command to run to get the package I download when I ran  dpgk ().deb it does not install all the way
[17:38] <gvo> Rahul: reboot?
[17:38] <ardian> fidel, I only installed it not sure if It worked but it stopped the noise a bit
[17:39] <auronandace> tbrown: why are you downloading .debs manually? what are you trying to install?
[17:39] <Rahul> then also same :( with cursor x symbol and only terminal
[17:39] <ardian> auronandace, I have FreeBios and right now my bios doesn't have something like that, should I try to upgrade the bios ?
[17:39] <Rahul> then also same :( with cursor x symbol and only terminal  gvo
[17:39] <comgen> tbrown : sudo dpkg -i name-of-deb-here  if he needs deps or broken : sudo apt-get -f install
[17:39] <gvo> Rahul: that sounds strange.  Running Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu or?
[17:39] <auronandace> ardian: sorry, bit out of my range of expertise
[17:40] <Rahul> Ubuntu 10.4
[17:40] <Rahul> Ubuntu 10.4 gvo
[17:40] <ardian> auronandace, np thanks
[17:40] <tbrown> comgen when I type in the sudo apt-get -f install in Delets the file
[17:40] <gvo> OK well try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:40] <comgen> tbrown : what are you trying to install
[17:41] <mister2> i'm trying to stream using vlc, and can't connect via udp or http. sap might work but i have no idea how to use that. vlc's site isn't very useful for help. does anybody know what might be wrong? :/
[17:41] <tbrown> comgen: Vmware Player
[17:42] <auronandace> tbrown: why not use virtualbox or qemu?
[17:42] <Rahul> gvo, i will try it out thanks for info :)
[17:42] <alteredud> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[17:42] <gvo> Rahul: if that doesn't work, edit the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look at the end of the file for error messages.
[17:42] <tbrown> auronandance: Never mind am just going to do it on my windows am going to install the server on my virtual machine on my windows platform I met to say:)
[17:43] <auronandace> !vmware | tbrown
[17:43] <gvo> Rahul: what "lock file" did you remove?
[17:43] <mickstep> Hi, I have been using mdadm to create a 3 disk raid 5 array, however one disk got a bad superblock and the the array is degraded and running on 2 disks. However the third disk that got kicked out of the array had good SMART DATA, anyone familiar with how I can add the disk back into the array to be resilvered?
[17:43] <Rahul> ../dpgk/lock file
[17:43] <Rahul> ../dpgk/lock file gvo
[17:44] <auronandace> !fixapt | Rahul
[17:44] <alteredud> mickstep: delete the array on the missing disk
[17:44] <comgen> tbrown : I would run " virt-manager " and " qemu-kvm " in place of vmware myself
[17:44] <alteredud> remove the missing disk from the array
[17:44] <alteredud> and add the disk again
[17:45] <Rahul> okay thanks ubottu :)
[17:45] <alteredud> mickstep: http://www.howtoforge.com/replacing_hard_disks_in_a_raid1_array
[17:45] <gvo> Rahul: ubottu is a bot.
[17:45] <mhts_mhts> hey guys
[17:46] <gvo> Rahul: tank auronandace
[17:46] <gvo> thank
[17:46] <Rahul> oh lol :D gvo ... thanks auronandace :)
[17:46] <mickstep> alteredud: thanks that looks like it should do the trick
[17:46] <auronandace> Rahul: no worries :)
[17:47] <ezoe> wonder why LC_COLLATE=C is not the default.
[17:47] <Rahul> auronandace : one question ?
[17:47] <auronandace> Rahul: yes
[17:47] <ezoe> anything other than that is unordered except ASCII glyphs.
[17:48] <alteredud> trancentral, eternity sheep
[17:48] <Rahul> auronandace, do you all work for free?
[17:48] <auronandace> Rahul: everyone here is an unpaid volunteer
[17:48] <gvo> Rahul: we work for each other.
[17:49] <Rahul> auronandace , gvo : Cool !
[17:50] <Rahul> auronandace, gvo : this is your full work ?
[17:50] <auronandace> Rahul: no, just spare time, you can help others too if you like
[17:50] <gbrt> Hi guys, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 under a MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.something...
[17:51] <gvo> Rahul: Ditto
[17:51] <gbrt> And comparing with OSX...
[17:51] <gbrt> It is quite slower...
[17:51] <mouth1> yes gbrt
[17:51] <gbrt> I mean, havier...
[17:51] <mouth1> if you have a mac i advise you to use mac os x, sounds strange i know :P
[17:51] <Rahul> auronandace, gvo : cool , but i don't have knowledge of ubuntu :P
[17:51] <gbrt> Not saying it's better or worst...
[17:51] <gvo> Rahul: You will
[17:51] <tbrown> is there a way that I can do remote access on ubuntu
[17:51] <gbrt> Naa, it doesnt...
[17:52] <gbrt> I truly understand...
[17:52] <gvo> tbrown: vnc
[17:52] <gbrt> But it is something like an experiment.
[17:52] <Rahul> tbrown, use teamviewer :)
[17:52] <gbrt> I was just a little bit worried...
[17:52] <fnordism> is it possible to use openbox instead of gnome?
[17:52] <auronandace> Rahul: you'll quickly pick it up, i find i learn a lot more when helping others you'd be suprised how much you do know
[17:52] <mouth1> you can use virtualbox on os x to run ubuntu in a virtual machine alongside os x
[17:52] <tbrown> gvo: Is that already on there or do i install it in the software center
[17:53] <auronandace> fnordism: indeed
[17:53] <gvo> tbrown: various flavors of vnc are in the repo.  I dont' think they are installed by default.
[17:53] <gbrt> Well, so this behavior is actually quite normal right?
[17:53] <Rahul> auronandace ,gvo:Nice , and its exciting
[17:53] <fnordism> fascinating
[17:53] <gbrt> Is there any other Ubuntu spin that may be "lighter" to use here?
[17:54] <auronandace> !lubuntu | gbrt
[17:54] <mouth1> gbrt: os x is made to run on your hardware, ubuntu is designed to run on any hardware
[17:54] <gbrt> Yeah, I know...
[17:54] <nothing-new> 12.04 will have gnome-shell and unity both?
[17:54] <ddv> someone know why --start-maximized is not working for Chromium?
[17:54] <mouth1> only unity i think
[17:54] <gvo> gbrt: how are you measuring slow?
[17:55] <tbrown> Am just going to use VNC on my computer
[17:55] <gbrt> gvo, actually by "feeling"...
[17:55] <auronandace> nothing-new: both are available, unity by default, 12.04 questions in #ubuntu+1 until release
[17:55] <gbrt> Please don't laught.
[17:55] <tom73> ciao
[17:55] <gbrt> :)
[17:55] <Rahul> gvo, auronandace : lets be in touch :)
[17:55] <tom73> !list
[17:55] <tbrown> Not VNC wow cant type RDV
[17:56] <gvo> gbrt: It's probably your graphics software that's slow.
[17:56] <gbrt> gvo, agreed. Probably yes.
[17:57] <andi3> hi all, lb config -p ubuntu_desktop --mode ubuntu --distribution oneiric -m http://localhost:9977/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu --volatile false && sudo lb build, fails with tar: /root/tmp: Cannot open: No such file or directory. Have you tried to build Ubuntu with live-build ?
[17:57] <gvo> gbrt: That;s not Ubuntu's fault.
[17:57] <ddv> someone know why --start-maximized is not working for Chromium?
[17:57] <tom73> extreme
[17:58] <gbrt> I'm planning to stop using it alongside with OSX... I intend to get another machine...
[17:58] <gbrt> What do you guys think about that Vostro one...
[17:58] <angel282> Hello, I need some help, I am trying to compile some open source and some library is missing "QtScript/qscriptengine.h: No such file or directory" any idea?
[17:58] <tom73> !list
[17:58] <gbrt> The 13"...
[17:58] <gbrt> From Dell.
[17:58] <gbrt> Should work well with Ubuntu, right?
[17:59] <gbrt> Well, gotta go...
[17:59] <auronandace> angel282: have you checked to see if what you are trying to compile is already in the repo?
[17:59] <gbrt> Thanks guys, thanks gvo.
[18:00] <gvo> Bye
[18:00] <andi3> does live-build (lb) suppose to work on Ubuntu?
[18:00] <angel282> yeap..
[18:01] <angel282> auronandace:yeap..
[18:01] <gvo> angel282: you probably need a -dev package.
[18:01] <auronandace> angel282: what are you trying to compile?
[18:01] <angel282> auronandace: some open source youtube downloader tool
[18:02] <angel282> gvo: which one?
[18:02] <auronandace> !info youtube-dl | angel282
[18:04] <angel282> auronandace: I know "youtubedl" tool, but I need this specific open source.. http://www.4kdownload.com/
[18:05] <auronandace> angel282: their download section has .debs available for ubuntu, whay are you compiling?
[18:06] <gvo> angel282: use apt-file to search for files in the repo.
[18:07] <angel282> auronandace: so I can change the software name to something else (its GPL)
[18:08] <auronandace> angel282: that makes no sense to me, have fun
[18:08] <gvo> auronandace: Probably wants to change the name and sell it as his own work.  ;)  (just kidding)
[18:09] <auronandace> gvo: i know you are kidding but i think you are right
[18:09] <nemo> Say, am I the only one who sees really unattractive hinting on the Unity top panel?
[18:09] <nemo> is almost like the hinting is doubled
[18:09] <nemo> like, big green pixels
[18:09] <nemo> or other colours
[18:10] <gvo> I refuse to use Unity.
[18:11] <stopostit21> how to join epikNet?
[18:12] <rolloTomasi> how can i search the comment section of "/list -y" to find channels with specific key words... ie. which channels have the keyword "social" in them
[18:12] <bastidrazor> !alis | rolloTomasi
[18:12] <nemo> gvo: ehm. my sentiments mostly. I was experimenting with it to see if it had gotten usable enough for my mom, who is still stuck on 11.04 and had already freaked out after *that* upgrade before I showed her how to switch to classic
[18:13] <gvo> lol  mom's can freak easily.
[18:13] <stopostit21> irc.epiknet.org
[18:13] <rolloTomasi>  ubottu:  gr8 thxs!
[18:14] <auronandace> stopostit21: /connect irc.epiknet.org
[18:14] <stopostit21> thank you!
[18:14] <nemo> kinda weird though. p'raps some bug in the intel driver on this laptop. seems hard for me to believe no one else has noticed it
[18:15]  * nemo tries completely disabling hinting
[18:15] <auronandace> nemo: do you have a screenshot?
[18:16] <nemo> auronandace: it wasn't the hinting, was the antialiasing
[18:16] <nemo> auronandace: wrong terminology I guess
[18:16] <nemo> anyway, gnome-tweak-tool changing antialiasing from RGBA to greyscale "fixed" it
[18:16] <nemo> or at least made it less horrible
[18:17] <ssta> hopefully they've made it easier to remove unity
[18:17] <auronandace> !yay | nemo
[18:17] <nemo> it does look like what happens in a web browser if subpixel AA is enabled, and you stack text on each other to get heavy text
[18:17] <nemo> I wonder if someone did that
[18:17] <nemo> you get a rainbow appearance around the text
[18:17]  * nemo shrugs
[18:17] <auronandace> ssta: why remove it when you can start out with it not installed in the first place?
[18:18] <ssta> auronandace: point
[18:21] <bynw> auronandace: how do you not install unity in the first place?
[18:21] <physically_fit> how do i determine the Chromium version I am running?
[18:21] <auronandace> bynw: by using a different derivative: kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu
[18:22] <physically_fit> i click on Help and nothing appears
[18:22] <auronandace> bynw: or start with the mini iso
[18:22] <gvo> physically_fit: go to the "wrench" icon and click on about.
[18:22] <tbrown> what is the command for root in the terinmal
[18:22] <gvo> sudo?
[18:22] <physically_fit> gvo, oh thanks i never use that icon. thanks again.
[18:22] <auronandace> tbrown: to open a root terminal: sudo -i
[18:23] <auronandace> tbrown: but be very careful
[18:23] <auronandace> tbrown: it usually is best to just use sudo when needed
[18:23] <tbrown> thank you :auronandance
[18:24] <auronandace> !tab | tbrown
[18:25] <maria_> hi
[18:26] <auronandace> maria_: greetings
[18:26] <njab> help your country in online game e-sim http://e-sim.org/lan.6740/
[18:27] <auronandace> njab: no advertising please
[18:27] <angel282> auronandace: anyway thanks for your help (I found the missing package, it was "libqt4-dev"
[18:27] <auronandace> angel282: awesome
[18:28] <auronandace> angel282: i think it was gvo who said to use a dev package :)
[18:28] <mouth1> can you measure the temps in ubuntu?
[18:28] <angel282> gvo: sorry.. :) thanks for your help
[18:28] <mouth1> like CPU
[18:28] <n-iCe> Hello I am in a big problem, I run linux in a live cd, but I want to get all my windows to linux in order to format windows and install linux in my hdd, the problem is that I moved something with gparted and the whole partitions of windows says unallocated space and I can't see the files, what can I do, thanks!
[18:28] <gvo> angel282: NP
[18:29] <mouth1> n-iCe: did you apply any formatting?
[18:29] <auronandace> !info lm-sensors | mouth1
[18:29] <n-iCe> mouth1: no formatting
[18:30] <mouth1> n-iCe: then you can just restart the computer and boot windows
[18:30] <mouth1> from there you can copy the files to an external hdd
[18:30] <mouth1> and then install and delete your hdd
[18:30] <mouth1> install ubuntu
[18:31] <gvo> auronandace: Last time I looked, the sensors had to be configured for your specific hardware.  Has that changed?
[18:31] <n-iCe> mouth1: I applied changes, but just not formatting, that's why now sasys unallocated files
[18:31] <auronandace> gvo: i must admit i've not given it a serious try so i can't remember
[18:32] <mouth1> n-iCe: why were you in the disk formatting anyway?
[18:32] <gvo> auronandace: Apparently they use a number of different devices and they software can't always determine what's installed.
[18:32] <mouth1> yo didn't want to delete your windows hdd did you?
[18:32] <finish06> can someone explain to me any reason why a normal person would want to build their own cloud?
[18:32] <n-iCe> mouth1: To create a partition to save the files
[18:32] <mouth1> hmm never done that before
[18:32] <mouth1> don't you have an external hdd?
[18:32] <sveinse> Does anyone know if there are any compability issues between LibreOffice and OpenOffice?
[18:33] <Fyodorovna> sveinse, yes they share files
[18:33] <mouth1> sveinse: isn't it the same source?
[18:33] <oCean> finish06: offtopic discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[18:33] <finish06> oCean, thanks.
[18:33] <tbrown> Has anyone run windows 7 in ubuntu
[18:33] <sveinse> I have a spreadsheet which shows "#VALUE!" in certain fields when opened in LibreOffice, while works perfectly in (Win) OO...
[18:33] <acicula> tbrown: you mean inside a virtual machine?
[18:33] <tbrown> acicula: Yes
[18:34] <acicula> tbrown: i have yes, should work just fine with virtualbox or whatever vm system you use
[18:34] <GirlyGirl> tbrown: W7 isn't the best performance wise under virtualisation. If XP suits your needs use that instead
[18:35] <Fyodorovna> sveinse, abiword should work
[18:35] <delinquentme> is WINE the best option for running itunes on ubuntu?
[18:35] <tbrown> GirlyGirl: Thank you
[18:35] <auronandace> delinquentme: or a vm
[18:35] <delinquentme> check auronandace
[18:37] <tbrown> GirlyGirl: I dont know if you got my message but how long have you been into computers
[18:37] <sveinse> Fyodorovna: Well, I'm not looking for an alternative. I'm trying to learn why it fails to use in Ubuntu. Else I need to reboot to win. Who wants that?
[18:38] <gvo> sveinse: did you try OO on Linux?
[18:39] <spoonybard> whats an alternative for firebug in the terminal?
[18:39] <auronandace> sveinse: perhaps look at the changelogs in libreoffice, specifically calc
[18:39] <tbrown> Windows XP Home Edition Or Pro
[18:39] <Fyodorovna> sveinse, use libreoffice in windows it is supposedly being developed with more regularity
[18:40] <gvo> spoonybard: How do you plan on debugging a web app in a terminal session?
[18:40] <gvo> Node.js?
[18:40] <spoonybard> yes
[18:40] <spoonybard> yes nodejs
[18:40] <GirlyGirl> tbrown: They have the same requirements
[18:40] <gvo> Ah!
[18:41] <sm00x> Fyodorovna, true true
[18:42] <gvo> spoonybard: nodejs has debug build in.
[18:42] <spoonybard> its not possible?
[18:42] <gvo> built
[18:42] <tbrown> GirlyGirl: So why does it matter if windows 7 does not have a good performace and if windows xp has the sme requirement oh I see what you mean sorry about that:)
[18:42] <gvo> spoonybard: node debug script.js
[18:43] <gvo> spoonybard: Apparently it works like gdb, but I've never used it.
[18:44] <gvo> spoonybard: Also there's something called node-inspector.
[18:44] <wiiguy> hello is it possible to replace ubuntu-desktop gui with xubuntu-desktop gui ?
[18:44] <spoonybard> gvo, i debug scrips with node-inspector
[18:44] <gvo> OK then what was the question? spoonybard
[18:45] <spoonybard> gvo, what i really wanted was something similar to firebug's net tab in the terminal
[18:45] <Musaab> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122312/asus-x101h-touchpad-not-recognized-want-to-disable-while-typing
[18:46] <wiiguy> hello is it possible to replace ubuntu-desktop gui with xubuntu-desktop gui ?
[18:46] <gvo> spoonybard: OK no idea, then.
[18:46] <spoonybard> ok
[18:47] <gvo> wiiguy: You might try installing xubuntu-meta
[18:49] <wiiguy> ok i will try that :)
[18:49] <wiiguy> thanks :0
[18:49] <auronandace> !purexfce | wiiguy
[18:49] <nemo> auronandace: found the real fix
[18:49] <nemo> auronandace: and like most things since gnome2 was killed off, it is annoyingly convoluted :)
[18:50] <nemo> auronandace: if you want subpixel AA it isn't just a dropdown in display settings
[18:50] <auronandace> nemo: awesome, do tell
[18:50] <wiiguy> auronandace im running 12.04 :p
[18:50] <gvo> wiiguy: After installation if you don't follow auronandace's suggestion, you'll have to select it at login.
[18:50] <nemo> auronandace: you have to fire up dconf-editor and go and set the pixel order there if you aren't lucky enough to already be on rgb
[18:50] <wiiguy> so dont thik that will work :)
[18:50] <auronandace> !12.04 | wiiguy
[18:50] <nemo> auronandace: once I did that (and I wasn't sure of pixel order, I just kept changing them until it stopped looking muddy)
[18:50] <nemo> all better
[18:50] <nemo> yay!
[18:50] <Ommpansthe> I need drivers for a wireless usb from levelone (WUA-0614), but I don't find them anywhere! I don't know if I need drivers of it is a problem of my computer. Note: sadly it works fine on windows xp :-(
[18:51] <wiiguy> ah ok:)
[18:51] <wiiguy> guess wrong channel :p
[18:51] <tbrown> I can see why that windows 7 is really slow on the loading the installion on the virutal machine it just so slow haaa
[18:51] <auronandace> nemo: wow, convoluted was the right word
[18:51] <nemo> auronandace:  /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/xsettings/rgba-order dropdown FWIW
[18:51] <nemo> but. fonts look nice and smooth again. woot
[18:52] <auronandace> nemo: well done
[18:52] <gvo> Ommpansthe: You may have to use ndiswrapper to install the windows drivers.
[18:53] <bram__> hey, what was the virtual machine program you used?
[18:53] <nemo> auronandace: but. yeah. annoying. that used to be a nice friendly menu in config settings :(
[18:53] <gvo> Ommpansthe: if all else fails there's a payware driver loader I've used in the past, Linuxant.
[18:53] <tbrown> bram__ Are you talking to me if so put my name in the first line so we know who you are talking to
[18:54] <auronandace> nemo: i'll be trying out unity when 12.04 releases, i bet there will be problems
[18:54] <Ommpansthe> gvo, Ill try. How to install it from a Internet-conected Ubuntu 11.10 x64 to a Offline Ubuntu 11.10 x32?
[18:54] <gvo> Ommpansthe: sneakernet is one option.
[18:54] <bram__> tbrown: sorry, yes i asked to you
[18:55] <gvo> Ommpansthe: No wired ethernet connection?
[18:55] <Ommpansthe> gvo, just in this computer.
[18:55] <tbrown> bram__: Yes Am running virtualbox but am thinking about running Vmware Player but I cant download it from the site it not letting me its saying that I deed not activated the account or something send me a a email and I deed it but it gave me an error so am going to try again:)
[18:56] <gvo> Ommpansthe: Is it a netbook?  Dump .deb files to a thumb drive.
[18:56] <sm00x> Ommpansthe, whats wrong with using Unetbootin ?
[18:56] <Ommpansthe> gvo, both are table-computers (not laptops, I don't know how you call them). I'll try to use a pendrive and a .deb
[18:57] <raven> do you know any live-vision-mixer with multi-camera support?
[18:57] <finish06> I have the asus p5q mobo, and need to use the two silicon image SIL 5723 sata ports... on a windows machine, I would d/l the driver that is on asus website, but this driver is not available for linux.. what can i do?
[18:57] <bram__> tbrown: for activating the account you need to verify the message in the email you registered
[18:58] <gvo> sm00x: I think he has the OS installed, but the wireless port doesn't work.
[18:58] <sm00x> finish06, really? lsmod and lspci
[18:58] <tbrown> bram__: Yes it send me a email but it just deed not work for me I deed not know what was wrong with the link or something:)P
[18:58] <bram__> tbrown: but i got the vmware player setup, you think i can pass it by email?
[18:58] <finish06> sm00x, .... really what?  what are lsmod & lspci?
[18:58] <finish06> http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7088/asusp5qspecs.png
[18:58] <sm00x> gvo, peaople should think and say more clearly
[18:58] <tbrown> Ya try it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:58] <sm00x> finish06 commands in linux
[18:58] <Ommpansthe> gvo, the hardware is a wireless usb adapter. Are you sure that ndiswrapper can help?
[18:59] <Ommpansthe> sm00x, I don't understand what is the relation about unetbootin and my problem
[18:59] <sm00x> Ommpansthe, can you say in normal english what you want to do?
[18:59] <bram__> tbrown: ok, i'll try it so
[19:00] <Ommpansthe> sm00x, I want to use a usb-wireless-adapter. The full name is: LevelOne WUA-0614. It works in Windows XP with drivers. I don't know how to make it run on Ubuntu
[19:00] <gvo> Ommpansthe: Does the OS see it?  dmesg lists it?
[19:00] <Ommpansthe> gvo, yes! it does! But I enter the correct password (WEP) and it doesn't work, it ask me again and again the password.
[19:01] <parto_> Hey guys, I have a Hp 530 laptop. When running on battery, it sometimes gets to around 60% of battery power and  just shuts down. No warning, nothing. Other times, it goes up to 25% and shows me the warning of battery low. Running ubuntu 11.04. What could be the issue?
[19:01] <gvo> Ommpansthe: That's a different problem. I think.
[19:01] <fmms> anybody else seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/982518 on precise?
[19:02] <Ommpansthe> gvo, I apologize to had misundrstood you then.
[19:02] <tbrown> bram__: Deed you send the email or something I need the linux one .deb
[19:02] <auronandace> !12.04 | fmms
[19:02] <sm00x> Ommpansthe, plug in the USB adapter and use lsusb and lsmod
[19:03] <Ommpansthe> sm00x, in console, right?
[19:03] <fmms> thanks auronandace
[19:03] <finish06> I have my CD drive plugged into a silicon image SIL5723 SATA controller in ubuntu.... the OS does not see my CD drive... so I cannot burn anything...  why is it not seeing it?  It sees the 6 other SATA drives that are plugged into intel ICH10R southbridge ports
[19:03] <gvo> Ommpansthe: Do an ifconfig -a
[19:03] <julioneto> Hi all
[19:04] <Ommpansthe> ok, I'll do that in the other PC. I will copy the results in a pendrive.
[19:04] <sm00x> first lsusb, then lsmod, and only then ifconfig!
[19:04] <silner> Ommpansthe: Have you seen this suggestion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1300753 ?
[19:04] <julioneto> Have you ever seen this yet? http://i44.tinypic.com/5plxg8.png
[19:04] <sm00x> finish06, lspci says what?
[19:04] <tbrown> I got the download thanks anyways
[19:05] <julioneto> Ubiquity just freezes when I set my personal informations
[19:05] <Ommpansthe> silner, yes, but I don't know how to install it :shy:
[19:05] <auronandace> !12.04 | julioneto
[19:06] <finish06> sm00x, http://pastebin.com/ZdBfvFAq
[19:07] <gvo> Ommpansthe: Temporarily turn off wep and see if it connects.
[19:07] <sm00x> finish06 and rthat PCI controller is really working in Windows?
[19:07] <finish06> it worked with i had a hackintosh
[19:07] <sm00x> it doesn't show at all in the lspci, so solve that
[19:07] <raven> do you know any live-vision-mixer with multi-camera support?
[19:08] <bram__> tbrown: no, but i will soon send you the setup, zipped in some parts
[19:08] <sm00x> maybe it is not in the slot ?
[19:08] <gvo> sm00x: if he's getting a request for wep login, he's got some kind of network connection.
[19:08] <finish06> sm00x, plugged in, I powered off a little earlier today and pulled it out of the port and then plugged it back in
[19:08] <tbrown> bram__ Ya I got it already thanks anyways
[19:08] <rfictus> how to check if I have 32 or 64 bit ubuntu installed?
[19:08] <sm00x> gvo, he need to use WPA2-AES
[19:08] <sm00x> all other wireless security is for dumfucks
[19:09] <auronandace> rfictus: uname -a
[19:09] <bram__> tbrown: you already got the setup?
[19:09] <auronandace> !language | sm00x
[19:09] <sm00x> proffesional?
[19:09] <sm00x> :D
[19:09] <sm00x> who is professional here? :D
[19:09] <LjL> sm00x: just don't swear.
[19:10] <tbrown> bram_: Am just going to do it on my windows clinet machine:)
[19:10] <sm00x> useless morons is all I see, giving end-users wrong solutions
[19:10] <sm00x> :D