[00:00] <DarwinSurvivor> t-mart: for easier resizing, hold Alt and drag with the middle-mouse-button :)
[00:00] <ClientAlive> I don't have a system settings - I'm running minimal, so cli and editing files is my only options I think
[00:01] <ClientAlive> I have awesome window manager on there but even it is something that one configures with files (lua is what it uses)
[00:02] <aot2002> I just loaded ubuntu 12.04 on my T410 lenovo but I have no mouse / trackpad. I tried plugging in a external mouse but that didn't work either. Any ideas what else I can do?
[00:02] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: if you are running minimal then suspend and hibernate should never happen automatically (unless you install the gnome power manager or something
[00:02] <phunyguy> what is the easiest way to burn a .dmg image to DVD that is bootable in Ubuntu?
[00:02] <ClientAlive> ahh. I see. I saw something called xscreensaver while googling. I do have xorg and xdm...   ?
[00:03] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: first the simple stuff: Have you tried toggling ALL the Fn+etc combos for mice? Some lenovo systems actually have *2* mouse-disable hotkeys
[00:03] <aot2002> Yes
[00:03] <ClientAlive> maybe something like: "dpkg list | grep xscreensaver" would tell me if it's installed - is my command right tho?
[00:03] <phunyguy> or is it possible to make a bootable USB out of a .dmg
[00:03] <aot2002> Wait 2 mouse disable keys?
[00:03] <n1ckn4me09876543> hey, do I need firewall in linux like with ubuntu to keep unauthorized access to my pc? I'm mainly talking about home/public network, or will I know it if someone is trying to break into my ubuntu
[00:03] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: look up your model in http://www.thinkwiki.org/ I found this VERY, VERY informative when installing on my x220
[00:04] <DarwinSurvivor> ClientAlive: yes, that should find it, but with minimal unless YOU installed it, it shouldn't be there :)
[00:05] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: .dmg as in an Apple installer or .img as in a CD/USB image?
[00:05] <phunyguy> .dmg as an apple installer
[00:05] <ClientAlive> ok. In that case, what would you look into next to isolate the source of the problem?
[00:05] <phunyguy> apple image anyway
[00:05] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: rare, but I do believe a couple models have it (one for touchpad, one for nib or something)
[00:05] <phunyguy> DarwinSurvivor**
[00:05] <bobweaver> Hello there fellow ubuntu'ers  Hope that you are having a wonderful night/day/whatever. I am looking for template's for Impress that are Ubuntu based or Canonical based any idea where to find. Or should I just make my own ? Thanks for your time. :)
[00:05] <wawowe> n1ckn4me09876543: no
[00:06] <ClientAlive> the awesome wm? But I though window managers had nothing to do with power saving or screen savers
[00:06] <phunyguy> hahaha, nice nickname, any relation to apple?
[00:06] <aot2002> Yes I don't see t410 with ubuntu 12.04 but I see ubuntu says all hardware is certified properly. I also noticed wifi is not working.
[00:06] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, are you behind a router? and if so, do you not trust your family?
[00:07] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: did you test the hardware with the pre-installed OS to rule out defective hardware?
[00:07] <phunyguy> aot2002: check your wireless switch on the side of the laptop
[00:07] <aot2002> Yes been working fine for over a year.
[00:07] <phunyguy> <--- t420 here
[00:07] <aot2002> Wifi is on
[00:08] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: .dmg files are NOT bootable iso's. They are basically a glorified .zip file with some install instructions (sort of like a .deb actually). What is your objective with the .dmg file?
[00:08] <aot2002> I did install from a usb stick but maybe I need to try alternatives like redownloading.. I find it strange it would just not work.
[00:08] <phunyguy> aot2002: press function f5
[00:08] <phunyguy> lol
[00:08] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: did they work when using the live-USB session?
[00:09] <aot2002> No
[00:09] <ClientAlive> I think it just did that crap to me again - I messes up my install
[00:09] <n1ckn4me09876543> wawowe: no..what?   t-mart: yes I'm behind a router. I'm new to linux and still trying to understand it, I normally use Comodo Firewall in windows and have it set to Paranoid Mode which tells me any connection going in and out my pc.
[00:09] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: yes, lenovo actually has TWO wireless enable functions. one is a switch, the other is Fn+F5 like phunyguy said
[00:09] <phunyguy> <--- win  :)
[00:09] <krababbel> n1ckn4me09876543: no, you don't need one if you trust everyone behind the router
[00:09] <aot2002> Yup both are enabled... Also dmesg does not report a mouse
[00:10] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: can you pastebin "lspci"?
[00:10] <aot2002> DarwinSurvivor: Since it's not on the net it's going to be a very rough time to get the output to pastebin.
[00:10] <aot2002> Also no mouse
[00:10] <aot2002> What are you looking for in lspci I can help find it.
[00:11] <ooldirty> oh dear sweet jaysus.  this is like being at work.
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: can you transport stuff via usb?
[00:11] <aot2002> Gigbit network connection from intel does show up
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: any mention of the mouse or wireless card
[00:11] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, unless you're running a server of some kind which has been "port forwarded" to the external Internet, than I wouldn't worry. Let's get at a more important question though: have you ever found anyone breaking into your computer with that Windows firewall?
[00:11] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: ok, try using wired for the pastebin stuff
[00:12] <aot2002> Okay I see 6200 N for intel wifi so it sees it
[00:12] <phunyguy> DarwinSurvivor: FYI, my lspci shows no mouse or keyboard
[00:12] <phunyguy> nor does lsusb
[00:13] <aot2002> lsusb shows the mouse I have plugged into the computer
[00:13] <aot2002> If I can get the mouse working then I can at least use wired to continue to debug.
[00:13] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: mice and keyboards typically don't show up. they are normally actually usb devices (internal usb) and should show up in lsusb
[00:13] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: oops, missed your next comment :(
[00:13] <phunyguy> i would imagine the hardware is similar between our laptops, mine is a t420, just 1 year newer
[00:14] <phunyguy> 410 was last years
[00:14] <DarwinSurvivor> phunyguy: actually, they don't show up in my lsusb either (lenovo x220), so that test probably means nothing
[00:14] <aot2002> It does show up on my machine
[00:14] <phunyguy> buncha lenovo lovers here
[00:14] <phunyguy> :P
[00:14] <aot2002> :)
[00:14] <phunyguy> im a t420s actually.  the slim one
[00:14] <aot2002> Any other idea's?
[00:15] <phunyguy> you said no keyboard either?
[00:15] <aot2002> Keyboard works fine
[00:15] <hbx_> cant wait for the new AMD fusion a10 chips to come out
[00:15] <phunyguy> oh.. touchpad?
[00:15] <aot2002> I'm at a terminal and able to type
[00:15] <aot2002> Yup touchpad or track pointer both don't work. An external usb mouse doesn't work either. It's like the entire mouse is disabled.
[00:16] <phunyguy> USB root hub seems to not be working
[00:16] <phunyguy> but you said wifi is dead too
[00:16] <aot2002> Yes wifi dead too
[00:16] <phunyguy> which narrows it down to PCI bus
[00:16] <n1ckn4me09876543> t-mart, yea.. like home ip address like <IP_ADDRESS> is me  i see something pops up like   <IP_ADDRESS>  or something like that,
[00:16] <phunyguy> something really wonky going on with your laptop
[00:17] <aot2002> I wonder if the installation I used from this usb stick is crapped out?
[00:17] <phunyguy> it could be... try to recreate it...
[00:17] <SeaPhor> no. some lappys have a touchpad disable key/fn-key/or button
[00:17] <phunyguy> maybe try to redownload the iso, or make it with another method
[00:17] <aot2002> k
[00:17] <phunyguy> unetbootn works well
[00:17] <phunyguy> dont have to download the iso with it
[00:17] <phunyguy> you just tell it you want it to make a USB stick with Ubuntu 12.04 on it
[00:18] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, everything* in 192.168.x.x is safe. it refers to other computers on your LAN.
[00:19] <leto_> anyone have a lenovo x1? how is it with ubuntu?
[00:19] <n1ckn4me09876543> t-mart: yes, but when it tries to get into my computer doesnt it mean they trying to connect to mine?
[00:19] <phunyguy> n1ckn4me09876543: thta is acceptable
[00:20] <phunyguy> that*
[00:20] <DarwinSurvivor> aot2002: if you reboot from the usb stick, chose the "Check disk for defects" that will tell you if the usb is bad
[00:20] <phunyguy> computers do that..  like discovery.
[00:20] <phunyguy> good call.
[00:20] <n1ckn4me09876543> phunyguy: hmm ok
[00:20] <t-mart> n1ckn4me09876543, not maliciously. it's likely network discovery chatter...other computers just trying to figure out what the network looks like
[00:20] <OerHeks> leto_, lenovo x1 is certified >> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201104-7945/
[00:20] <dimholt> Hey guys. A new Linux user here who needs help formatting my drive. It doesn't work... Can someone help me?
[00:21] <phunyguy> dimholt: need a specific error
[00:21] <leto_> oh, that's good, thanks OerHeks
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> dimholt: use gparted
[00:22] <dimholt> phunyguy: I've been following a guide using fdisk, creating partitions, filesystems etc, but when I reboot, the old table is still being read and my changes aren't made.
[00:22] <escott> dimholt, how big is the disk?
[00:22] <dimholt> ActionParsnip: allright, I'll check that out =) Thanks.
[00:22] <dimholt> escott: it's 300gb.
[00:23] <OerHeks> leto_, awesome specs
[00:23] <Milos_SD> Hi
[00:23] <dimholt> Been following this guide: http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[00:23] <leto_> OerHeks: I'm looking at those new thinkpad x1 they just announced
[00:24] <dimholt> But when I reboot, nothing has changed.
[00:24] <Milos_SD> is there a way to get my self a root access with rw on / partition in this new recovery console?
[00:24] <escott> dimholt, i'd certainly use the gui, or use "parted" instead of fdisk. if the computer is more or less brand new it might have gpt/uefi in which case fdisk is not the correct partitioning tool. you dont get any warnings messages from fdisk?
[00:24] <escott> Milos_SD, mount -o remount,rw /
[00:25] <dimholt> escott: Yeah, there was a warning, good you mentioned it.  X broke completely. When I tried to fix it, I ended up with just a black screen with a blinking caret. Now running from bootUSB to reformat and redo everything.
[00:26] <dimholt> escott: one sec, I'll check the warning.
[00:26] <psusi> dimholt, if you want to reinstall, then boot the installer... no need to use fdisk
[00:27] <Milos_SD> escott, thanks ... now I can restore my /etc/group file, that I exidently messed up :D
[00:27] <dimholt> psusi: thing is, the gui won't run, even from the boot disk. That's what's messed up. Seems everything is broken.
[00:27] <Milos_SD> and I don't have 64bit livecd/usb
[00:29] <dimholt> escott: error is "WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)"
[00:29] <escott> dimholt, thats usually not a problem. just means you need to run the command partprobe to get the kernel to update the table, once you reboot the kernel will reread anyways
[00:30] <dimholt> escott: I figured, but it doesn't. I
[00:30] <escott> dimholt, so how old is the motherboard on this computer?
[00:30] <dimholt> 'm trying to format the only HDD on the computer. It doesn't seem to be running the boot disk maybe. But I've done that many times and I know I'm doing it right.
[00:30] <dimholt> Hmm, a few years.
[00:31] <escott> dimholt, that would likely rule out uefi (unless its a mac)
[00:31] <dimholt> Okay, don't know what uefi is =(
[00:31] <dimholt> I'ts not a Mac.
[00:31] <dimholt> Gamin PC, few years old.
[00:32] <dimholt> All I want to do is just erase everything and try again from the boot disk... If I can get the Ubuntu installer from the boot disk to work, then I can manage on my own.
[00:34] <gr33n7007h> dimholt, use dd
[00:34] <escott> dimholt, if the data on the disk can be trashed you could try a low level command to blow away the table. "dd bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1"
[00:34] <dimholt> Just "dd"?
[00:34] <dimholt> Aight, I'll try that.
[00:35] <escott> dimholt, make sure /dev/sda is the correct device first
[00:35] <dimholt> Yeah, it says "Device" on everything, makes me a bit confused.
[00:35] <dimholt> I have "/dev/sdb1"
[00:36] <dimholt> And I also have "/dev/sda1", "/dev/sda2" and "/dev/sda5"
[00:36] <psusi> dimholt, what do you mean?  what happens when you boot the install disk?
[00:36] <escott> dimholt, sda is probably the internal hard drive and sdb is the probably the usb boot disk
[00:36] <dimholt> psusi: Tbh, I'm not sure that it runs the boot disk, which confuses me a bit.
[00:37] <dimholt> I get the computer name as the user.
[00:37] <dimholt> "root@computername"
[00:37] <psusi> dimholt, well you need to go into the bios and make sure it is set to boot from the install disk
[00:37] <escott> dimholt, are you removing the usb stick before trying to reboot?
[00:37] <dimholt> psusi: Yeah, I'm sure I've got that right... Maybe I've accidentally formatted the boot disk?
[00:38] <dimholt> escott: no, it's there.
[00:38] <psusi> dimholt, you have the bios set to boot from usb before the hard drive?
[00:38] <dimholt> If it's not, I just get the black screen with the blinking caret, unable to type or anything.
[00:38] <dimholt> Yesl
[00:38] <dimholt> I've even deactivated the hard drive to test.
[00:38] <psusi> dimholt, then rebuild the boot disk
[00:38] <escott> dimholt, when you say "boot disk" thats really confusing. the "boot disk" is whatever you boot from. it could be the internal hdd or the liveusb install device
[00:38] <dimholt> Yeah, I better try that.
[00:39] <dimholt> Okay, sorry. I've been meaning the USB flash disk.
[00:40] <dimholt> I'll try rebuilding the USB booter.
[00:41] <aot2002> Phew new Live ubuntu 12 cd is working now.
[00:51] <doktah> can someone help me with my ubuntu crashing?
[00:52] <windbuntu> what is the error message doktah ?
[00:52] <doktah> it just freezes... no error msg
[00:52] <doktah> usually in the screensaver
[00:53] <windbuntu> if you do not use the screensaver does it still crash?
[00:53] <doktah> it has
[00:53] <doktah> usually when moving windows
[00:53] <dimholt> escott: seems the bootable USB had been erased somehow. Maybe I did it myself accidentally =) Seems it's coming along now ^
[00:53] <doktah> dragging by the titlebar
[00:53] <dimholt> Many thanks for your help guys! Really appreciate it!
[00:54] <escott> doktah, what kind of graphics card?
[00:54] <windbuntu> what hardware are you using doktah?
[00:54] <L3top> doktah: what GPU?
[00:54] <L3top> doktah: lspic -nn | grep VGA
[00:55] <doktah> hd3850
[00:56] <tyler_d> lspci
[00:56] <BentFranklin> How do I tell ubuntu server to look in, e.g.,  repo us.archive...main...i386_Packages?
[00:56] <tyler_d> L3top: you mean to say doktah: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[00:56] <L3top> oops... doktah lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:56] <L3top> yes tyler_d
[00:56] <tyler_d> :p
[00:57] <Icehawk78> What's the standard practice for installing software that isn't manually (ie not via apt-get install) fin terms of "where to put the folder and the like?
[00:57] <tyler_d> Icehawk78: I stick with /opt
[00:57] <doktah> 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV670PRO [Radeon HD 3850] [1002:9505]
[00:58] <t-mart> Icehawk78, well, are you building the software? i.e. ./configure, make, make install....
[00:58] <BentFranklin> Icehawk78: I use ~/Software
[00:59] <escott> Icehawk78, I follow the following set of rules (a) check for a ppa (b) use checkinstall (c) put it in /usr/local if it has a unix like structure of folders (d) put it in /opt if it is monolithic (Mathematica and the like)
[00:59] <Germanaz0> hello everybody
[00:59] <windbuntu> doktah have you tried using the open source driver instead of the ati driver?
[00:59] <Germanaz0> I have an error on the new ubuntu 12.04
[00:59] <L3top> doktah: Which video driver are you using?
[00:59] <Germanaz0> ubuntu crash very often
[00:59] <Germanaz0> and don't know how to fix
[01:00] <doktah> how would I go about that windbuntu?
[01:00] <L3top> The fglrx driver wont work right on that card... so hopefully windbuntu
[01:01] <L3top> R*5|6|7 are not supported by the current driver.
[01:01] <L3top> doktah: what driver are you currently using?
[01:01] <doktah> just the ati one
[01:02] <windbuntu> i know that on my system, ubuntu offered me a proprietay driver, but it would not work, so i left it as is and it works very nicely and i just checked and ubuntu 12.04 says i am using no proprietary drivers.
[01:02] <wawowe> Germanaz0: what's the error?
[01:02] <Germanaz0> don't know
[01:02] <doktah> none of this was happening before I tried to use a TV as a secondary via the sviddy
[01:02] <Germanaz0> I cant read the problem
[01:02] <Germanaz0> it crash
[01:03] <Germanaz0> but for example, when I open software center
[01:03] <Germanaz0> it throws
[01:03] <L3top> doktah: apt-cache policy fglrx
[01:03] <BentFranklin> How do I add a repository to /var/lib/apt/lists?
[01:03] <Germanaz0> http://pastebin.com/8SCrp8iC
[01:03] <Germanaz0> wawowe,
[01:04] <L3top> What does the installed line say doktah? ( or you can just apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed  )
[01:04] <doktah> fglrx:
[01:04] <doktah>   Installed: (none)
[01:04] <doktah>   Candidate: 2:8.881-0ubuntu4.1
[01:04] <doktah>   Version table:
[01:04] <doktah>      2:8.881-0ubuntu4.1 0
[01:04] <FloodBot1> doktah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <doktah>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/restricted i386 Packages
[01:05] <L3top> ok... then you are using the appropriate driver.
[01:05] <doktah> I figgered
[01:06]  * L3top wouldn't expect much if anything to display on the proprietary one.
[01:06] <HareyJ> I'm having a severe problem with 12.04 in graphical mode, I suspect it's the video drivers.  nvidia 8800m gts on my laptop.   The system just freezes after I login and toy around for about 60 seconds or so.  mouse will still move, but nothing else works, no keyboard, nothing.  Seen this error reported out on the net but I haven't seen any fixes for it yet.
[01:07] <wawowe> Germanaz0: download libapt-pkg4.12.deb and dpkg -i
[01:08] <windbuntu> before 12.04, ubuntu would offer me a proprietayr ati driver and i always took it-now, since 12.04 when i try to install the ati driver it says a problem occured and i look and the ati driver is not installed? so i leave it as is and the stock ubuntu driver works good. i am not sure whats up with that but all my 12.04 computers are working good.
[01:08] <HareyJ> oh, and 64 bit version too
[01:08] <windbuntu> proprietary*
[01:08] <L3top> windbuntu: it is the driver itself that changed, and the version offered in this release. They drop support like flies.
[01:09] <HareyJ> I did try using 2d Unity, made zero difference, still locks up.
[01:09] <wawowe> HareyJ: does it lockup if you sit at the login manager?
[01:10] <windbuntu> very possible ltop i have not researched it that far, as long as ubuntu comes thru i tend to let stuff like that go and report only what i cannot fix, i guess ultimately i prefer ti use the drivers ubuntu offers as stock drivers if at all possible.
[01:11] <windbuntu> the 1st time i noticed this issue was on my asus laptop which uses the ati 5870 card, so i mentioned it when i saw doktak 's comment.
[01:11] <HareyJ> wawowe:  Yes, it does in fact, the first time I turned it on it did that.
[01:11] <wawowe> HareyJ: can you ctrl+alt+f1 before it locks?
[01:12] <HareyJ> wawowe: it takes somewhere between 30 seconds and 2 minutes to freeze up, not long enough for me to change the graphics driver.  Yes I can get to console, but I have to stay there, if I try to switch back after that time is up, it locks as before.
[01:13] <wawowe> HareyJ: switch to the console and do: tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log > new
[01:13] <tyler_d> >>
[01:13] <HareyJ> wawowe: I was tailing the system logs, and did see something about the graphics driver at some point, but I haven't seriously used linux in ages so I'm at a loss here..
[01:13] <wawowe> HareyJ: then switch back and let it lockup then reboot
[01:14] <wawowe> HareyJ: are there any errors in the log?
[01:14] <windbuntu> i am sure glad i am not a gamer
[01:15] <L3top> If you were a gamer, you would have a different card.
[01:15] <HareyJ> wawowe: Oh, I'm booted off the ubuntu 12.04 cd right now, I don't have a working stable OS on this laptop, sooo...   Yes, there was something about the graphics driver but I didn't fully catch it, an error it looked like... I'd have to reboot to the OS and install a console irc client to get you more
[01:15] <windbuntu> haha maybe i would but i hear my 5870 is ok
[01:16]  * Germanaz0 restarting pc
[01:16] <windbuntu> this desktop doesnt even have a card in it
[01:16] <L3top> HareyJ: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:16] <wawowe> HareyJ: just mount your install
[01:16] <L3top> was just joshin windbuntu
[01:16] <HareyJ> it'll be a min, not used to this interface :)
[01:17] <windbuntu> i have no clue l3top-never tried those type of games
[01:17] <wawowe> HareyJ: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && cd /mnt/var/log
[01:17] <HareyJ> L3top: VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800M GTS] [10de:0609] (rev a2)
[01:19] <wawowe> HareyJ: if i had to guess what it was, i'd say lightdm
[01:19] <L3top> HareyJ: did you install the proprietary driver (nvidia-current) or are you using the default nouveau
[01:19] <wawowe> HareyJ: the login manager
[01:19] <qubuntu> i connected my HP monitor to my Ubuntu laptop via VGA. but Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my HP monitor as it's still on standby. how do i get Ubuntu to detect it?
[01:19] <HareyJ> L3top: It was the nvidia one by default as far as I can tell, I didn't specifically install anything other than clicking "install 3d party software and drivers" at the install.
[01:20] <L3top> qubuntu: Have you used the fn + f key to change the output?
[01:20] <philip> y
[01:20] <philip> justin
[01:20] <L3top> fn + f*
[01:20] <krababbel> HareyJ: then you need to insatll nvidia-current
[01:20] <HareyJ> what's the default password for this cd booted version?
[01:20] <qubuntu> L3top i tried fn + f on the keyboard and that didn't do anything.
[01:20] <L3top> krababbel: if HareyJ clickt install 3rd party then he has the nvidia-current
[01:20] <HareyJ> krababbel: I believe it said it was nvidia current, I could briefly get as far as that control panel
[01:21] <krababbel> og
[01:21] <krababbel> I thought that was just mp3
[01:21] <L3top> qubuntu: it isnt the f key, I mean whichever function key has the image of a monitor on it... fn + f4 on mine
[01:22] <HareyJ> shoot, let me just reboot into it... I can irc from console, although it's been 10 years since I tried.  hopefully that won't hurt too much ;)
[01:22] <wawowe> HareyJ: does passwd ask you for the current password?
[01:22] <HareyJ> hold, I'll be back in a minute.. I hope.
[01:22] <wawowe> HareyJ: apt-get install irssi
[01:23] <HareyJ> and this is irc.freenode.com?  I hate this irc client.  can't find any real 'settings'.  it's too IMy.
[01:23] <LordOfTime> HareyJ:  irc.freenode.net
[01:23] <HareyJ> groovy, brb.
[01:23] <krababbel> harovali: chat.freenode.net
[01:23] <qubuntu> l3top I just tried FN + monitor key (F7 on mine) but that didn't do anything. my monitor doesn't detect any signal.
[01:24] <LordOfTime> krababbel:  tiny bit slow there :P  but irc.freenode.net and chat.freenode.net are synonymous
[01:24] <L3top> qubuntu: try it a couple of times, with some time between.
[01:24] <L3top> qubuntu: there are several configs possible
[01:24] <wawowe> qubuntu: may have to add another screen in xorg.conf
[01:24] <krababbel> LordOfTime: ok, I just remembered it from their website, i use chat now, and it feels faster :)
[01:26] <qubuntu> thanks l3top it still doesn't work but i think i will restart my computer and see if that does anything.
[01:26] <qubuntu> wawowe i will look into that, thanks.
[01:27] <brett__> how does wine work
[01:27] <wawowe> brett__: you type: wine windowsapp.exe
[01:29] <BentFranklin> On Ubuntu Server 12.04, I edited sources.list, updated, and did apt-get install foo and it finds foo then stops with "Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...Pangolin... and press enter".  Why is that?
[01:29] <haux> You drink it, and you make bad decisions. That's how it works.
[01:30] <wawowe> BentFranklin: remove the "cd" source from sources.list
[01:30] <bazhang> !ot > haux
[01:30] <brett__> i did and my screen flickered brought up blue screen and then said not found
[01:30] <L3top> BentFranklin: one of your sources.list is going to be file//cdrom or some such. Remove it. Or it can be unclicked from the update manager settings
[01:30] <brett__> funny haha
[01:30] <qubuntu> !xorg.conf
[01:30] <BentFranklin> L3top: wawowe: Thanks
[01:30] <qubuntu> !xorg.conf > qubuntu
[01:31] <wawowe> brett__: if something wasn't found it was probably a dll, you'll have to download those when they're needed
[01:32] <brett__> im starting to get annoyed with ubuntu everything seems complicated its hard to get answers
[01:32] <proxinix> How can I help you brett__
[01:32] <bazhang> !manual | brett__ have a read
[01:32] <bazhang> !rute | brett__ and here
[01:33] <bazhang> brett__, another help forum for ubuntu is askubuntu.com
[01:33] <wawowe> brett__: if you want windows, use it. wine is an emulator and when things don't work you just have to live with it
[01:34] <nmatrix9> Hey guys screwed up my xserver tried to do a clean reinstall of my nvidia drivers with apt-get remove nvidia-* and then do apt-get install butI keep getting nvidia-96 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable
[01:34] <qubuntu> L3top I went to NVIDIA X Server Settings and I see the HP Display monitor there. but under configuration it says "disabled".  i have two options: seperatexscreen or twinview. what do i do?
[01:35] <nmatrix9> Anyone know how to reinstall nvidia drivers for 12.04
[01:35] <L3top> I guess you want to run twinview in clone mode
[01:35] <brett__> but my pc responds to ubuntu better thsn it ever did with win 7 it has never worked as smooth as it does now i just have trouble with some of the programs and i miss some things i could do
[01:35] <LordOfTime> nmatrix9:  `sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current`  ?
[01:35] <nmatrix9> Can't even boot into x with rescue cd
[01:35] <L3top> I guess you want to run twinview in clone mode qubuntu
[01:36] <nmatrix9> I  will try that LordOfTime thanks
[01:37] <qubuntu> ok i'll try that l3top
[01:38] <sancas> super fail!! i run sudo rm -rf /opt/* and i dont know what i do :s
[01:38] <sancas> but i have problems
[01:38] <qubuntu> it worked! thanks L3top ! :)
[01:39] <qubuntu> although i'll be using right mode instead of clone since it has same screens in this mode.
[01:40] <wawowe> brett__: what do you miss?
[01:41] <nmatrix9> LordOfTime kinda weird though that I can't even get x with the ubuntu rescue cd
[01:41] <brett__> when you want to download something you just down load and install it now even when i download ubuntu stuff igoes to a file and i dont know how or if its installed
[01:42] <L3top> happy that works out for you qubuntu
[01:42] <escott> brett__, you generally should not be downloading programs. instead use apt-get install or synaptic or software center
[01:42] <brett__> so if i happen to find the file i still dont know what to to with it
[01:43] <wawowe> brett__: you can get pretty much any program you might want all from the same place
[01:43] <brett__> how do i get access to this
[01:43] <Mike9863> Ubuntu no longer automatically changes the connector from Speakers to Headphones under the sound settings when I plug in headphones. How can I enable this?
[01:43] <krababbel_> brett__: you use software center
[01:44] <brett__> yes i do
[01:44] <nmatrix9> LordOfTime it worked I have x session back thank you
[01:44] <LordOfTime> nmatrix9:  no problem :)
[01:44] <wawowe> brett__: if you find a program on the internet that you want and it's not for linux then don't get it
[01:44] <wawowe> brett__: find it's linux =
[01:44] <brett__> i see
[01:45] <escott> Mike9863, does "sudo lshw -C sound" mention intel HDA (high def audio) and is this a laptop?
[01:46] <Mike9863> escott: Nothing about intel; yes it's a laptop
[01:46] <escott> Mike9863, what kind of soundcard is it?
[01:47] <Mike9863> escott: Nevermind that; it does say intel HDA. Sorry. Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/vRraZprN
[01:47] <escott> Mike9863, the joys of HDA sound. so a little background is in order
[01:48] <escott> Mike9863, intel HDA is a fairly general specification, but each laptop maker has the option of connecting the output ports (called PINS) with different physical jacks. as a result there are an exponential number of board configurations
[01:49] <vlt> Hello. A special chroot environment caused this msg: “invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of stop.” This is what I want for other chroots, too. How to achieve this?
[01:49] <escott> Mike9863, most likely what has happened is that your kernel is picking the wrong board configuration and is either not detecting the fact that the headphone jack has been inserted, or is outputting sound to the wrong PIN
[01:50] <wawowe> vlt: selinux, apparmor
[01:51] <vlt> wawowe: hmmm, sounds complicated.
[01:51] <escott> Mike9863, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA describes some kernel module options you can try. another approach would be to boot the livecd of a version that works, and downloading the hda_analyzer python script and running it in monitor mode. then plug/unplug into the headphone jack and note what how the PIN configuration is changed in order to make output go to headphones, then you can replicate that on
[01:51] <escott> your current system
[01:52] <sjd> hi all,各位早上好
[01:52] <Mike9863> escott: Thanks I'll look into it. I don't remember having this problem in 11.10. It used to change automatically.
[01:53] <escott> Mike9863, this happened to me between 10.10 and 11.04. a patch got dropped somewhere in the kernel build. i waited a few months and it was back to working again
[01:53] <escott> Mike9863, in the interim i just manually flipped the pins when I needed it
[01:54] <Mike9863> escott: I'm hoping I won't have to resort to that :P. Thanks for your help.
[01:56] <trying2work> Hi, can anyone here help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:56] <menturi> Hello. I am getting a 'panic' when trying to boot off an Ubuntu cd and am not sure what to do at all. I'm very new to linux, and am unfamiliar with many things, so sorry in advance (hehe). If anybody can help me, what information do you need?
[01:57] <menturi> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0515022350.jpg
[01:57] <naryfa> menturi: try an alternate installation iso
[01:57] <skulltip> is it a bug that the menu of an app drops from the top of the hud down to the application you're running?
[01:57] <vlt> menturi: First thing you could do is to check whether the CD image is fine. There’s an option in the boot menu.
[01:57] <menturi> I burned two CDs from the same iso, both with the same results. I also tried to do that 'verify contents of CD' once and it said it was successful. Do you think it is possible that the iso is bad?
[01:58] <GeminiDomino> This is probably a dumb question, but I installed 32-bit since I didn't know this laptop had a 64bit processor. Is there some sort of metapackage or something that I can use to install the 64-bit packages without having to do a fresh reinstall?
[01:58] <uw> hi just want to see if this is possible.    Is there a way i can save this setting of all the windows and positions and return to it upon reboot?
[01:58] <vlt> GeminiDomino: I don’t think so.
[01:59] <vlt> menturi: Not very likely if you verified it already.
[01:59] <GeminiDomino> I was afraid of that. :P Thanks
[01:59] <Pnoexz> uw: sessions, your DE should have them
[01:59] <escott> menturi, appears to be from b43 (broadcom wireless). try and boot the safe mode if that doesn't work you can try a b43.blacklist=yes option on the boot (assuming b43 is the module name)
[01:59] <trying2work> I have upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit). And now I cannot print anything. I am not sure what went wrong. I have all the correct drivers, but my printer priints out a blank page , and another page with some kinda error message. Is there anyone who can help me find out and fix the problem ?
[02:00] <uw> Pnoexz, hi thanks for the response.  I'm kinda new, can you elaborate on "DE"
[02:00] <wawowe> vlt: were you talking about chroot jailing a process or making an system unbreakable during a chroot
[02:00] <Pnoexz> uw: Desktop Environment, gnome, KDE xfce, lxde, colorbox
[02:02] <SomeGuy303-2> Looking for a little help with an HDMI audio issue. When the TV is turned off, I lose the HDMI audio device, and only get it back with a reboot...
[02:03] <escott> SomeGuy303-2, have you tried rmmod and modprobe?
[02:03] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: does alsa mixer show the still show it?
[02:03] <SomeGuy303-2> gone from the mixer
[02:04] <menturi> escott:  excuse my unfamiliarity. How do I boot in safe mode? I found my way to this screen < http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022202.jpg >.
[02:05] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: that shouln't happen, what about: aplay -l
[02:05] <vlt> wawowe: I want to chroot and then run `aptitude install` w/o actually stopping or running any processes. Something like debootstrap does. There’s “ltsp-chroot” that seems to do this but it’s hard wired to chroot into one of its client image environments. I want to find out what it does to prevent messing up the “host” processes.
[02:05] <escott> menturi, either F6 or F4 (I think modes means video modes)
[02:05] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: it drops it also
[02:06] <wawowe> menturi: for single-user mode add -s to the grub boot line
[02:06] <stars69> hi guys how do you search for dir or file on ssh terminal?
[02:06] <escott> menturi, see that line above the last one that says ubuntu.seed boot=casper etc etc.. if you can figure out the proper option to modify that (the kernel boot options) and can add b43.blacklist=yes that will hopefully get you booting
[02:06] <schnuffle> stars69: locate or find
[02:06] <stars69> schnuffle, thanks
[02:07] <vlt> stars69: Exactly like on an an ordinary terminal ;-)
[02:07] <schnuffle> :)
[02:07] <vlt> stars69: `find` for example
[02:07] <menturi> F4 lists: "Normal", "Use driver update disk", "OEM install (for manufacturers)". F6 lists: "acpi=off", "noapic", "no1apic", "edd=on", "nodmraid", "nomodeset", "Free software only"
[02:07] <trying2work> any one who can help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:07] <tucemiux> anyone knows how well ubuntu plays with video cards that have HDMI output?
[02:07] <menturi> Ah maybe i can type text to it somehow...
[02:08] <pibarnas> tucemiux, very well.
[02:08] <skiz_> I have a vid card with HDMI running 12.04
[02:08] <skiz_> runs great.
[02:08] <L3top> tucemiux: all of my outputs are HDMI
[02:08] <locoguano> The sliders (not scroll bar) can not be seen in the theme I am using. Anyone know the GTK-3.0 setting to change slider color?
[02:08] <L3top> well... except the laptops...
[02:08] <stars69> hi, have anyone have this 2 files libtclsqlite3.so and curl?
[02:08] <tucemiux> you guys think an ivy bridge laptop with HDMI output will play with ubuntu?
[02:08] <pibarnas> tucemiux, mine is linked to the LED tv. very good.
[02:09] <skiz_> btw, my name is Skiz, new ubuntu user... =/
[02:09] <schnuffle> stars69: sudo apt-get install curl
[02:09] <LordOfTime> stars69:  curl can be installed by `sudo apt-get install curl`, the other one i told you about earlier
[02:09] <Pnoexz> hey, how do i clean the kernel log? due to a bug it went from a few lines to 6.6GB in a day
[02:09] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: use lsmod and check if a module disappears from the list after you unplug it
[02:09] <escott> menturi, hit f6 then hit esc and it should put the cursor in the boot parameters line
[02:09] <tucemiux> pibarnas, im going to get a monitor with HDMI inputs because I couldnt find a 32" TV that I could use for gaming  and part time TV use
[02:10] <escott> menturi, leave a space after the -- and add "b43.blacklist=yes"
[02:10] <pibarnas> tucemiux, mine's 32''.
[02:10] <stars69> LordOfTime, i must be missed your first msg can you repeat agaun plz
[02:10] <tucemiux> pibarnas, how's your gaming on that rig?
[02:10] <escott> menturi, so it should read "blah blah blah -- b43.blacklist=yes" and then press ENTER
[02:10] <LordOfTime> stars69:  you know me as Resistance.  but my last message was: <LordOfTime> stars69:  curl can be installed by `sudo apt-get install curl`, the other one i told you about earlier
[02:10] <pibarnas> tucemiux, I don't game on that. sorry.
[02:11] <stars69> LordOfTime, i tried all your suggestion none of those work
[02:11] <tucemiux> pibarnas, yeah, like i was saying!  I'm looking for something I will use on a daily basis as a monitor and on the weekends watch games on it (TV)
[02:11] <skiz_> Odd question, but anyone know an offline MD5 Decrypter tool for 12.04?
[02:11] <pibarnas> tucemiux, indeed I play a little of mupen64plus, but I think it's not what you talking about.
[02:11] <LordOfTime> stars69:  then file a bug against the FTPd you're using, because its looking in the wrong location
[02:12] <LordOfTime> stars69:  you may have to manually create that directory structure wherever it needs it to be, then symlink the correct file to there
[02:12] <tucemiux> pibarnas, dont know whats mupen, i mainly use UrbanTerror and going to start doing some COD once I get my rig set up good
[02:12] <menturi> escott:  thak ou b43.blacklist=yes seemed to work.
[02:12] <menturi> thank you*
[02:12] <stars69> LordOfTime, well not that, those files are not on my system
[02:12] <pibarnas> tucemiux, it's a nintendo 64 emulator X)
[02:12] <escott> menturi, so you probably arent going to have wireless on this install. you'll need to plugin directly
[02:12] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: before and after lsmod are the same
[02:13] <tucemiux> nintendo? LoL ok
[02:13] <wawowe> vlt: here's what i got from google http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt https://www.debian-administration.org/article/426/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap may or may not be useful
[02:13] <stars69> LordOfTime, i can creat dir but i need those files
[02:14] <LordOfTime> stars69:  did you apt-get install libsqlite3-tcl ?
[02:14] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: what kind of card is it?
[02:14] <stars69> like i said it said i already has that apps installed, i did remove and re-install but not working
[02:14] <LordOfTime> stars69:  and then look at this location for the file: /usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/libtclsqlite3.so
[02:15] <Pnoexz> hey, how do i clean the kernel log? due to a bug it went from a few lines to 6.6GB in a day
[02:15] <LordOfTime> stars69:  because /usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/libtclsqlite3.so is where libsqlite3-tcl installs it
[02:15] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: snd_hda_intel
[02:15] <lime_> What package is the `qemu` binary in ubuntu?
[02:15] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: try reloading the module
[02:15] <stars69> LordOfTime,i did looked at dir, those file is not there
[02:16] <stars69> can someone plz help me with find this file plz libtclsqlite3.so
[02:16] <LordOfTime> stars69:  repeating won't help youi'
[02:16] <wawowe> Pnoexz: either use sed to delete everyline with the error or delete the kernel log
[02:17] <elequ> I was wondering if someone could help me? I'm trying to install 'lamp-server' using either apt-get or tasksel
[02:17] <elequ> but it is not listed to install
[02:17] <Pnoexz> wawowe: thanks, ill go with deletion
[02:17] <LordOfTime> elequ:  sudo apt-get install lamp-server ?
[02:17] <menturi> escott:  Okay. I'm going to continue to install Ubuntu and see then what options I have for internet. I have a question about partitioning. I currently have /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, both for winows, and some 'free space'. I'm a bit unclear on 'primary' vs 'logical' setup and what it means.
[02:17] <elequ> can anyone tell me where this list comes from? how I can add 'lamp-server' to apt-get as an option to install
 Can you help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:17] <wawowe> elequ: apt-cache search lamp
[02:17] <elequ> LordOfTime, nothing happens :-/
[02:17] <trying2work> LordOfTime: Can you help me with printing problems on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:18] <elequ> apt-cache search only give me three things
[02:18] <escott> menturi, you can have it automatically install to the free space and it will setup an extended partition with two logical partitions inside. if you want manual partitioning then I would recommend creating an extended partition and putting logical partitions inside it. you are limited to 4 primary partitions (and an extended counts as 1 primary). by creating extended parts you can have hundreds of partitions instead of only 4
[02:19] <trying2work> escott: can you help me resolve printing problem on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[02:19] <elequ> I'm using a VPS for uni and think apt-get has been gutted a bit
[02:19] <elequ> how do I add package lists to apt-get?
[02:19] <wawowe> elequ: or apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5*
[02:19] <escott> trying2work, details
[02:19] <LordOfTime> trying2work:  no, i cant, but give the channels details
[02:20] <wawowe> elequ: if you mean adding repositories, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[02:20] <skulltip> sorry, i gave unity a month but it is either still buggy and not all there yet, or my upgrade didn't go as well as I thought it did.
[02:20] <elequ> thanks wawowe! I'm going to try that but I'm actually interested to know where apt-get gets it's information from :)
[02:20] <locoguano> can anyone tell me what gtk-3 property controls the color of a slider (not scrollbar)?
[02:20] <elequ> poo! yes that
[02:20] <skulltip> switching to openbox or lxde
[02:21] <phunyguy> yeah lxde runs so much better...  :-/
[02:21] <Logan_> stars69: The package libsqlite3-0-dbg also appears to provide that file in /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/tcltk/sqlite3/.
[02:21] <trying2work> escott: I have upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 (64bit). Soon after that, I am not able to print anything from my printer. I tried 2-3 different printers, but none of them worked. When I issue a print command from adobe acrobat reader , there is no response form printer. Or when I issue the command from evince the printer starts to print something. But it gives out a blank page and another page with some error message printed on it.
[02:21] <elequ> wawowe, thank you!!
[02:21] <nydel> i'm having some problems with dual monitors - i want applications to open on my primary monitor, or to remember where they were closed & open there, but often they don't. then they open halfway between the monitors, in the middle of the workspace. please help, i can't figure this out for the life of me! thank you
[02:22] <Logan_> stars69: Although the libsqlite3-tcl package should be providing that file already.
[02:22] <Tyrope> Greetings. I'm trying to install 12.04server on a Windows Virtual PC (Don't have anything else available at school, grr). I recall having to run the parameters 'noreplace-paravirt vga=791' (not 100% on the number) for 11.10desktop, is this still required for 12.04server?
[02:22] <escott> trying2work, what kind of printer is it? what does it say in the printers dialog?
[02:22] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: no chage with modprobe snd_hda_intel, or modprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi
[02:23] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: rmmod
[02:23] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: then modprobe
[02:24] <trying2work> escott: I have tried with HP 4050 and with Konika minolta c451 printers. The print queue does not give any error message, it shows that the command was processed and the printing was done. The printer prints this error message = "ERROR: invald access OFFENDING COMMAND: filter STACK: /SubFileDecode endstream 0  --nostringval-- "
[02:24] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[02:25] <escott> trying2work, if you open your webbrowser and type in the location bar "localhost:631"
[02:25] <escott> trying2work, you will get a web interface to the printer queue that may provide more debugging options
[02:25] <HareyJ> There we go..
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: lsmod | grep snd
[02:26] <nydel> does the nvidia tweaker thing work on non-nvidia cards? mine is an intel built-in graphics board & i'm doing dual monitors, my laptop & an hdmi out
[02:26] <trying2work> escott: My printer was properly added. It was working before, and it works from another computer with ubuntu 11.10 (where I used exactly the same method for connecting to the printer)
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: have to rmmod all of those on the left
[02:26] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: including soundcore
[02:27] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/991701/
[02:27] <HareyJ> wawowe: I did a quick re-installation as it turns out my partitions were all screwed up, and this time I didn't check the "install 3rd party software" box and the nvidia drivers are not installed.. and X is fine for the moment..
[02:29] <wawowe> HareyJ: you could try getting the most recent nvidia driver, if it's a bug the the one in the repository
[02:29] <menturi> escott:  Does this look correct & reasonable to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022226.jpg
[02:29] <trying2work> escott: Here is my /var/log/cups/error_log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/991702/
[02:29] <L3top> Anybody know how to reassign media button controls (XF86Audio*) to alsa? My laptop controls don't seem to be tied to anything with a volume meter (in alsamixer). xev shows they are working (as expected due to HUD).
[02:30] <HareyJ> wawowe: Yeah, I could see that there was an updated one, but obviously I couldn't get it to install from X without it crashing before the process hardly started..
[02:30] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: all report to be in use...
[02:30] <wawowe> L3top: xbindkeys
[02:30] <L3top> ty wawowe.
[02:30] <escott> menturi, not exactly
[02:30] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: they all depend on each other
[02:31] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: if you're playing music or something stop it, or: lsof | grep snd
[02:31] <escott> menturi, this are no extended partitions. everything is primary. that would imply gpt. which would imply uefi? is this a uefi system?
[02:31] <escott> trying2work, none of those errors would seem to be related to a print failure
[02:32] <escott> trying2work, why dont you try and print something and then check what tail /var/log/cups/error_log says
[02:32] <HareyJ> I am seeing odd errors in my console regarding sdc, which to my knowledge I don't have..
[02:32] <trying2work> escott: sure, lemme try that
[02:33] <wawowe> HareyJ: check your computer for flash drives haha
[02:33] <HareyJ> oh wait, maybe that's my dvdrom drive, but it's not in use..
[02:33] <HareyJ> nope, nothing plugged in
[02:33] <menturi> I thought I selected 'logical' instead of 'primary'. I wanted to do what you suggested before, with 'extended' and logical sub-partitions i guess you could call them. I am unsure what 'uefi' means.
[02:33] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having a DNS server problem. I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and my default route, but I can't ping any DNS servers.
[02:34] <bluesnow> I've turned off firewall/cleared DNS cache/turned off SELinux
[02:34] <escott> menturi, is your system brand new? does the "bios" setup screen support the mouse, is it particularly colorful
[02:34] <trying2work> escott: this is what it gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/991709/
[02:34] <escott> trying2work, nothing new or interesting there
[02:35] <trying2work> escott: by the way there are so many people who have had similar problems, but there is no solution found as yet
[02:35] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: do this: lsmod | grep snd | cut -c -18 | xargs rmmod
[02:35] <escott> trying2work, im not much of an expert on printing. last time i printed something was a few years ago
[02:35] <menturi> escott:  No, I do not believe so.
[02:35] <bluesnow> any idea what could be the reason for being unable to ping dns servers?
[02:35] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: until all the modules are unloaded
[02:36] <trying2work> escott: anyway thanks for your time
[02:36] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: then rmmod soundcore
[02:36] <escott> menturi, maybe they surpres the listing of the extended so as not to confuse people. im not familiar with that screen
[02:37] <escott> menturi, i guess just go ahead
[02:37] <K-Rich> Yo
[02:37] <HareyJ> I'm gonna try upgrading to the nvidia driver, but just in case, how do I downgrade back to this.. nouveau driver from the console?  apt-get install ?
[02:38] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: after that you can make a script that will run that as many times as needed, then modprobe  snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_intel
[02:38] <menturi> My friend will be available soon. I will be talking to him in a bit. Thank you much for your assistance you were a great help :)
[02:38] <HareyJ> Turns out my 'sdc' is the SD/MMC/MS/XD card reader slot, odd that it's doing things when there's not even a card in it.
[02:38] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: so you can just type revive whenever you need to revive your sound card
[02:39] <escott> HareyJ, those are fun devices you usually end up with sdc/sdd/sde/sdf...
[02:39] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: should add something for killing any process using the sound card too
[02:39] <HareyJ> [sdc] Asking for cache data failed
[02:39] <HareyJ> [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[02:40] <HareyJ> endlessly.  on my damn terminal windows!
[02:40] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe: no love on the rmmod: ERROR: Module snd_hda_codec_hdmi is in use
[02:41] <HareyJ> [sdc] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
[02:41] <SomeGuy303-2>  wawowe: says that for all of the modules
[02:41] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: what does lsof | grep snd say
[02:42] <wawowe> HareyJ: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[02:43] <wawowe> HareyJ: and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use that driver
[02:43] <SomeGuy303-2> wawowe, about 9 lines
[02:44] <cmecca_> hi all --- is it possible to put unity 'dash home' top icon into the menubar instead of leaving it on the dock as i see in some screenshots, in unity 2D?  or is this a 3D only function..
[02:44] <XX> can u open steam through ubuntu?
[02:45] <HareyJ> wawowe: there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <L3top> HareyJ: I would also recommend apt-get remove nvidia* as well if you are going back to nouveau
[02:45] <Logan_> XX: With Wine, yes.
[02:45] <XX> im trying to figure thsi out now
[02:45] <XX> also
[02:46] <XX> is the new ubuntu worth it ?
[02:46] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: lsof | grep snd | awk '{print $2}' | sort -u | xargs kill -9
[02:46] <nydel> i finally got things to open to my primary display if anyone wants to know how.
[02:46] <L3top> HareyJ: In fact I would purge.... those two fight for frame buffer.
[02:46] <XX> or do i keep the one i have?
[02:46] <Logan_> XX: Or PlayOnLinux.
[02:46] <Logan_> XX: Which version are you running?
[02:46] <XX> 11.10
[02:46] <XX> one oh thrix or something :p
[02:46] <wawowe> HareyJ: go to the console (ctrl+alt+f1) and type service lightdm stop
[02:46] <XX> what is playonlinux :O
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: then Xorg -configure
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: as root btw
[02:47] <Logan_> !playonlinux | XX
[02:47] <Logan_> hmph
[02:47] <wawowe> HareyJ: then cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <lihongwu> Hi,all. May I ask which program provide the command "dpkg-depcheck", please?
[02:47] <XX> im downloading it now
[02:47] <XX> also
[02:47] <XX> im checking how to run steam on li nxu
[02:47] <HareyJ> which reminds me, how exactly does one login as root on this thing?  pure sudo all the way?  how annoying.
[02:48] <Logan_> lihongwu: sudo apt-get install devscripts
[02:48] <L3top> sudo -s or -i HareyJ
[02:48] <lihongwu> Logan_: Oh, thank you.
[02:48] <cmecca_> is it possible to put the 'dash home' ubuntu icon in the menubar in unity?  i see it in some screenshots
[02:48] <Logan_> lihongwu: No problem.
[02:49] <cmecca_> or must it remain a icon.
[02:49] <randomDude> i have 10 12.04 desktop machines here at work which are using ldap login, user authentication suceeds however there is only a black screen with a cursor. i think i had this problem with 11.10 as well. but i can not remember how to solve it.
[02:49] <bohemian9485> !playonlinux
[02:50] <Logan_> !info playonlinux | bohemian9485
[02:50] <XX> . After wine is done being installed, run wine iexplore http://winehq.org and install Gecko. Now copy over tahoma.ttf font from a Windows install or off the internet to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/.
[02:50] <Logan_> bohemian9485: http://www.playonlinux.com/en
[02:50] <XX> what does that mean?
[02:50] <XX> how do i rune WINE iexplore http://winehq.org
[02:50] <XX> ?
[02:50] <Logan_> XX: Where are those instructions from?
[02:51] <randomDude> !enter
[02:51] <XX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/InstallingSteam
[02:51] <Logan_> XX: You don't need to do that. Just download PlayOnLinux. There's a setup wizard for Steam.
[02:51] <L3top> XX sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:51] <L3top> XX I would think installing wine would have them as a depends though...
[02:52] <XX> oh
[02:52] <XX> wait i just downloaded playonlinux. And now, i do sudo apt-get install msttcorefronts?
[02:53] <XX> omigod omigod omigod THERE IS METAL SLUGGGGGGGGGGG HOLY SHIETTT
[02:54] <XX> i worship u logan_
[02:54] <L3top> XX I would, again, think you already have them if you have wine... you can look in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[02:54] <Logan_> XX: Haha.
[02:54] <upset> Question: Is emerald resource-intensive? Especially compared to Metacity panels
[02:55] <wylde> !emerald | upset
[02:55] <upset> wylde: Woah. Why do people keep writing Emerald themes then?
[02:55] <upset> wylde: Especially incredibly attractive ones
[02:56] <L3top> upset: because it is use at your own risk doesn't mean it isn't going to work... just means... if you hit a problem, we can't help.
[02:56] <XX>  logan_ http://pastebin.com/VH7Jm7xq
[02:57] <HareyJ> *crosses fingers*
[02:57] <Logan_> XX: I wouldn't worry about the fonts.
[02:57] <upset> Okay, none of your answers have anything to do with my original question.
[02:57] <upset> Is it a resource-intensive window decorator as compared to metacity?
[02:58] <L3top> It is not supported. That is the answer here.
[02:58] <upset> L3top: That is a non-answer.
[02:58] <L3top> Because it is a non-question in A SUPPORT ROOM
[02:59] <HareyJ> Duh.
[02:59] <upset> L3top: There's no need to be rude, at all.
[02:59] <L3top> I am not trying to be rude. I found your follow up rude.
[03:00] <cmecca_> Czar: thats my dogs name
[03:00] <cmecca_> :P
[03:00] <HareyJ> omg it's back to the days of windows, I need to restart my computer after installing a driver! ;)
[03:00] <Czar> Hi..looking for help trying to install Graphic Driver...ubuntu 11.10  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960  Sony Vaio VGN NR220E
[03:00] <upset> L3top: Whether or not it's old and unmaintained has nothing to do with resource usage and I'm not concerned with whether or not Canonical supports it because this is not Canonical's channel.
[03:00] <upset> L3top: If you don't know, you don't need to answer.
[03:01] <HareyJ> upset: dude, he doesn't know the answer, and quite frankly who would?  just let it go.
[03:01] <L3top> You are asking for a technical comparison in a support channel of a non supported manager addon. I don't see why you dont understand.
[03:01] <XX> I have to say logan_ that steam is working perfectly
[03:01] <XX> thank you so much again
[03:01] <Logan_> XX: Awesome. Glad I was able to help.
[03:01] <L3top> I know the answer... I reject the question on principal.
[03:02] <L3top> HareyJ: Like I said, they fight for framebuffer, that is why a reboot is required.
[03:02] <upset> HareyJ: I don't know, that's why I asked. I don't need some trivial back and forth though. It's unhelpful and unproductive.
[03:02] <wawowe> SomeGuy303-2: http://pastebin.com/c2sCm7Yw there's your script
[03:02] <Czar> where i can find the right channel.. for graphic drivers support??????????????
[03:02] <HareyJ> L3top: I recall, and I understand, just found it a little funny!  Thanks for the help.. I'll be back! (I hope)
[03:02] <Anarhist> hello, yesterday i gave live cd of the new version of ubuntu a try, i almost wanted to install it, but can somebody tell me this: will it be possible to make a panel on the left hide itself like it currently does for me... i'm on netbook and that little bit of space is very important
[03:03] <L3top> Czar: ask your question.
[03:03] <divbyzero> hello, is there any ncurses gui for iptables?
[03:03] <cmecca_> is it possible to put the 'dash home' ubuntu icon in the menubar in unity?  i see it in some screenshots
[03:03] <cmecca_> or must it remain a icon.
[03:03] <wawowe> Anarhist: i'm pretty sure that panel hides itself automatically
[03:04] <upset> L3top: You're absolutely silly and you're not a Canonical employee and whether or not it is maintained has nothing to do with anything.
[03:04] <Anarhist> wawowe, on the live cd it remained shown all the time...
[03:04] <Anarhist> wawowe, perhaps it's a bug i should report then
[03:04] <L3top> If you were polite you would have had your answer. I didn't claim authority, I just have no motivation whatsoever to help you.
[03:04] <TheAncientGoat> Man, I really, really wanted to like unity.. And I love the HUD.. But it keeps on freezing and giving me 99% CPU use with compiz
[03:04] <upset> L3top: You don't even know what version of Ubuntu I'm using. For all you know I'm using a release for which Emerald works perfectly.
[03:04] <Czar> L3top the additional drivers doesnt recognizes any graphical dirver!!!
[03:04] <wawowe> Anarhist: i don't know about 12.04, but when i initially installed 11.10 it hid itself
[03:05] <L3top> Czar: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:05] <TheAncientGoat> Also, it makes my GPU run at 80C and is a bit.. laggy for my 2007 laptop
[03:05] <Anarhist> wawowe, yes, on 11.* it does, but i tried 12.04 live cd... that's what i'm talking about
[03:05] <HareyJ> upset: You're being a jerk is what you're doing. I've done more than enough support work myself to know that.
[03:05] <TheAncientGoat> So, lets hope Gnome3 is less crashy..
[03:05] <upset> L3top: Before it's principle, now it's a personal issue? Just don't answer if you don't know or don't want to help. I'm really offended by your conduct.
[03:06] <wawowe> Anarhist: i got rid of unity right away, so i don't know if it's like that in 12.04, but i'd assume, and if it's not i'm sure there's an easy way to enable it
[03:06] <upset> HareyJ: If you're like this guy you're about as helpful as a doctor that smacks you when you talk.
[03:06] <L3top> The principal is because of your attitude and sense of entitlement to an answer on an unsupported install in a support channel... yes... now shoo. I'm done with you.
[03:06] <Czar> L3top   Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[03:07] <omac> i just updated to 12.04 and the left launcher bar auto-hides.
[03:07] <upset> L3top: I will gladly get out of here. You're  so high up on that horse that you're hard to hear.
[03:07] <L3top> Czar, that is not the output of what I gave you... but regardless, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:08] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having internet connection problems
[03:08] <bluesnow> I can ping myself but can't ping any DNS servers, and nslookup is returning connection timed out, no servers could be reached
[03:08] <omac> upset what's yr question?
[03:09] <L3top> Yes upset... that is why I spend countless hours in here helping people for absolutely nothing. Because I am... uppity.
[03:09] <bluesnow> Any idea how to fix this? I've turned off firewall, SELinux, etc, but still can't ping any DNS servers or other websites
[03:09] <Czar> L3top: 11.10  output: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 0c)
[03:09] <omac> your ip isnt in the same subnet/mask as your router.
[03:09] <randomDude> upset: 1. it is more resource intensive, 2. this is infact canonicals channel
[03:09] <upset> omac: Thanks for offering help, but I think I'll search for the answer elsewhere.
[03:10] <wawowe> bluesnow: try to ping your router
[03:10] <Danny> so i just tried duel booting win 7 with ubuntu installation went fine but now i cant get to my ubuntu side grub or w.e is missing or something like i dont get that purple background thing that lets me choose wether i want to boot up windows or ubuntu
[03:10] <randomDude> i have 10 12.04 desktop machines here at work which are using ldap login, user authentication suceeds however there is only a black screen with a cursor. i think i had this problem with 11.10 as well. but i can not remember how to solve it.
[03:10] <krababbel> Danny: what do you get?
[03:10] <upset> L3top: Wow, really? You're not going to argue your way into making me believe you're better than me.
[03:10] <Danny> krababbel: just boots into windows everytime
[03:10] <omac> bluesnow: dhclient
[03:10] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver ocelot
[03:11] <wawowe> upset: i'm better than you
[03:11] <krababbel> Danny: you have to reinstall grub again
[03:11] <Danny> krababbel: how do i do this ?
[03:11] <upset> wawowe: Noted
[03:11] <krababbel> Danny:
[03:11] <bluesnow> ping <IP_ADDRESS> (default route) works for me
[03:11] <L3top> upset, If defending myself against your assault of character means to you that I think I am better than you, you have issues that cannot be supported in irc.
[03:12] <krababbel> Danny: ubuntu forum thread number 1902362
[03:12] <L3top> !info i965-va-driver oneiric
[03:12] <wawowe> bluesnow: route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:12] <wawowe> bluesnow: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:13] <L3top> Czar: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[03:13] <escott> !grub | Danny
[03:14] <bluesnow> wawowe: ping <IP_ADDRESS> returns destination host unreachable
[03:14] <Emerling> o/ How put mootbot in my ubuntu channel
[03:14] <Emerling> ?'
[03:14] <Czar> L3top: bash: !info: event not found...... ok installing driver
[03:14] <wawowe> bluesnow: but you can ping your router and you added that default gateway?
[03:14] <L3top> Czar: sorry that was just for the bot, wasnt sure in 11.10 if it was i965-va-driver or libva-driver-i965
[03:14] <omac> blues: ifconfig
[03:15] <wawowe> bluesnow: can you ping anything else on your network?
[03:16] <yanncarlier> j
[03:16] <omac> what router model brand doyou have?
[03:16] <yanncarlier> no
[03:17] <Czar> L3top: so what i do ??? should i cont. with the driver installation?
[03:17] <L3top> omac: you can begin typing a nic and hit tab to complete it, or reuse the last one. Much easier.
[03:17] <L3top> Czar: yes
[03:18] <bluesnow> omac: what am I looking for under ifconfig?
[03:18] <bluesnow> wawowe: I can only ping <IP_ADDRESS> now
[03:18] <omac> wlan0 or eth 0
[03:18] <L3top> can you pastebin the output bluesnow? (installing pastebinit might not be a bad idea)
[03:19] <bluesnow> omac: it has a listing for both eth0 and wlan0
[03:19] <L3top> !pastebinit | bluesnow
[03:19] <Czar> L3top: install done
[03:20] <omac> paste the resuot into pastebin
[03:20] <L3top> Czar then you have the intel driver and the accelleration driver enabled. Should have great experience.
[03:20] <Boyo> Can anyone help with an Ubuntu installation problem?  I can't event get the install DVD to boot
[03:20] <Czar> L3top: just installed the i965-va-driver! not the livba driver .. its that ok???
[03:20] <bluesnow> Can't paste because linux desktop doesn't have internet
[03:20] <escott> Boyo, details please
[03:21] <omac> boyo try f8 key
[03:21] <Boyo> I see the error message "error: prefix not set" and then garbled text
[03:21] <wawowe> bluesnow: ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>; route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>; echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[03:21] <L3top> Czar: yes... there is only one... it was renamed. I was just trying to get the bot to tell me which name it was in oneiric
[03:21] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: type ifconfig in a terminal window and check the inet addr part.
[03:21] <Boyo> I selected DVD drive from the BIOS boot menu, so it is attempting to boot from the install DVD
[03:21] <omac> or f12 key key to see boot menu and select cd/dvd drive
[03:22] <Boyo> omac: This happens after that
[03:22] <bluesnow> it gives inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <dr_willis> sounds like a bad burn or messed up iso file.  Boyo . tried it on other pcs yet?
[03:22] <bluesnow> wait on top inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <Junior> HI EVERYONE, I NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE, MY DELL MONITOR GOES TO POWER SAVE MODE WHEN UBUNTU IS LOADING AFTER THE BIOS SCREEN, I TRY UPDATE THE INTEL DRIVER PLEASE HELP
[03:22] <L3top> bluesnow: DOH... sorry... of course you can't paste.
[03:22] <wawowe> bluesnow: you're on a wired connection right?
[03:22] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: does your router has dhcp server capability?
[03:22] <Czar> L3top: ok so that is the best graphic driver for my card... should i restart the sys??
[03:23] <Boyo> This is what I mean by garbled text: http://i.imgur.com/KZpXw.jpg
[03:23] <dr_willis> Junior:  dont yell.. and the system never comes back up? or what happens exactly.
[03:23] <Boyo> dr_willis: No, I haven't tried it on another PC
[03:23] <bluesnow> Both my wired and wireless connections aren't working. I've tried DCHP and manual.
[03:23] <escott> Boyo, there is a boot option for nomodeset use that
[03:23] <Boyo> escott: How do I use that
[03:23] <L3top> Czar: yes... I would expect you to have no problems going forward with video/etc
[03:23] <Junior> oh sorry, sorry i didnt notice my caps lock
[03:23] <bluesnow> The DNS server I'm using on my windows desktop right now is working
[03:23] <omac> bluesnow:  what bran and model number is your ?
[03:23] <Boyo> escott: I believe I am having this problem before I would even have an opportunity to use a boot option
[03:23] <wawowe> Junior: hit esc a bunch just before the loading screen shows
[03:24] <omac> router?
[03:24] <bluesnow> it's ubuntu 11.10
[03:24] <escott> Boyo, on the menu where you select install or check memory there are things at the bottom I think you want F5 or F6 and then pick nomodeset from the menu
[03:24] <bluesnow> oh
[03:24] <wawowe> Junior: edit the grub line and add -s to the end of it
[03:24] <Boyo> escott: I'm not getting that far
[03:24] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Boyo
[03:24] <wawowe> Junior: then boot and it will bring you to a terminal
[03:25] <Czar> L3top: ok thank you i really appreciate your support and time...
[03:25] <Boyo> It does look like a video mode problem, but I can't even see the install menu where I could use a boot option
[03:25] <Junior> wawowe i have never edited the grub line before please instruct me
[03:25] <dr_willis> Boyo:  the boot options are befor the install menu
[03:25] <bluesnow> omac: it's an AT&T 2701HG-B Gateway
[03:26] <omac> byo b patient it takes time to adjust for video
[03:26] <L3top> any time Czar :)
[03:26] <wawowe> Junior: it shows you commands at the bottom, but it's "e", then add -s to the end of it, hit enter, then type "b"
[03:27] <wawowe> Junior: for the kernel line (the longer one)
[03:27] <Boyo> omac: So you think waiting will fix the video?  I can tell that the text is some kind of menu.  There is a highlighted line that moves when I use the arrow keys
[03:27] <omac> boyo wait 3 minutes and press enter a few times now and then
[03:28] <Boyo> omac: I can try that, although I won't be able to read what I am selecting
[03:28] <Junior> wawowe: i try to do the hitting ESC a bunch of time and nothing, i cant even get on a terminal, now please give me the commands i need to change that line on the grub you talking about, if you can and thanks wawowe
[03:28] <omac> bluesnow: r u thr?
[03:28] <bluesnow> omac: yes
[03:29] <bluesnow> omac: also, I've gotten the wireless to work with this router before. But it seems to randomly drop sometimes and stop working.
[03:29] <omac> roter make and modeel
[03:29] <wawowe> Junior: you hit esc right when you see the purple screen, before the loading bar
[03:29] <bluesnow> omac: router is a AT&T 2701hg-b gateway
[03:29] <blackmatrix_ny> is there a way to make seahorse request for password again when someone opens the console...i dont see any options
[03:30] <bohemian9485> bluesnow: i think your router is not giving out ip addresses to lease to client computers
[03:30] <dr_willis> blackmatrix_ny:  you mean the alt-ctrl-f1-f6 consoles?
[03:30] <none> can someone unban me from ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:30] <omac> flaky wifi dongl drvers smtimes,but not yet. focus router make modeo...what are they?
[03:30] <Junior> wawowe thats the thing you dont even get to see the purple screen right after the BIOS screen, the monitor goes to power save mode
[03:31] <bluesnow> omac: AT&T 2701hg-b gateway
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> none, got to #ubuntu-ops
[03:31] <blackmatrix_ny> dr_willis, i mean the seahorse gui for gnupg...is there a way to put password on it when it launches
[03:31] <krababbel> bluesnow: have you got this router from you isp?
[03:31] <omac> make and model?
[03:31] <omac> i
[03:31] <omac> k
[03:31] <wawowe> Junior: boot the ubuntu install cd
[03:31] <Junior> wawowe so i just kept hitting ESC to see if anything comes up, and nothing and i did it for a long time
[03:31] <wawowe> Junior: the framebuffer is what's causing it
[03:32] <wawowe> Junior: need to disable it
[03:32] <omac> now google the user manual
[03:32] <krababbel> bluesnow: if yes, ask them how to fix it, ubuntu's dhcp client isn't the problem i guess
[03:32] <Junior> wawowe ok im on it, i will boot from the ubuntu CD and we go from there, or i can acces the machine on SSH and tell me how to disablethe framebuffer
[03:32] <bluesnow> omac: the manual doesn't provide any other info about make and model
[03:33] <omac> find out what is the ip ofvthe router.  it is usually on the stickeunder the router
[03:33] <bluesnow> I was able to use the wireless about seven hours earlier today
[03:33] <omac> withe the user and passwd
[03:33] <mixolyd> can someone please help me get kubuntu up and running
[03:33] <wawowe> Junior: ssh would be faster if you've got it setup
[03:33] <dr_willis> Junior:  try tapping/holding the space key also.  very very early in the boot process theres a screen with a 'man=keyboard' image at the  bottom real real quickly shown. thats  when you tap the keys to get to the  option menmmus
[03:33] <mixolyd> posted here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981503
[03:34] <goddard> I like arch because you never have to upgrade any way to do that with Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Junior> wawowe i dont get to see none of that
[03:34] <dr_willis> its grub/gfx day today on#ubuntu
[03:34] <dr_willis> goddard:  just never run the update tool...
[03:34] <blackmatrix_ny> this seahorse app has been quietly logging my passwords for almost everything...if i remove that and gnupg are there any adverse effects on the system ?
[03:34] <omac> bluesnow the make is at & t
[03:34] <goddard> dr_willis: then all my stuff is old
[03:35] <Junior> wawowe im telling you right after the BIOS screen, the monitor goes to power save mode right after
[03:35] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, you wont have a gpg agent
[03:35] <bluesnow> omac: the router's IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <dr_willis> goddard:  yiou said you dident want to upgrade.. so that imples you woule be running old stuff..
[03:35] <omac> the model is 2701 blabla
[03:35] <omac> k
[03:35] <goddard> dr_willis: wrong
[03:35] <dr_willis> goddard:  you are saying things in a weird way then...
[03:35] <kronoman> hello, Im using a old pc (living in south america), should I use Ubuntu or Xubuntu? The PC is AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2100 mhz, 1,5 gb RAM, NVidia Geforce2 and 160 gb hard disk
[03:36] <goddard> dr_willis: i said i like arch cause i never have to "upgrade"
[03:36] <Junior> wawowe sorry that was for dr_willis
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, would I need a gpg agent to push/pull files into a git repository that requires encryption ?
[03:36] <goddard> dr_willis: no you are reading in a werid way
[03:36] <bluesnow> omac: I can't ping the router either
[03:36] <Junior> wawowe im on ssh now what?
[03:36] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, do you want to be entering your passwords ALL the time
[03:36] <omac> bluesnow are you wired or wifi?
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, yessss :-)
[03:36] <bluesnow> wifi
[03:36] <omac> k
[03:36] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, the list of passwords on that app is just plain scary
[03:36] <sunbird> anyone have wallpapers working on grub2? i _had_ it working under 10.04, but can't get it in 12.04.
[03:37] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, I would look into disabling your gpg and ssh agents then. should be fairly easy to do so
[03:37] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, i see it even saves pwds from chrome emails and stuff...does the browser use that to store passwords ?
[03:37] <omac> ifconfig wlan0  <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:38] <goddard> dr_willis: is there a way to always get the bleeding edge changes so you are technically always up to date without doing massive "upgrades"
[03:38] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, its a secure keystore. its a lot better than having those applications insecurely implementing their own keystore
[03:38] <omac> then: dhcient
[03:38] <omac> dhclient
[03:38] <bluesnow> omac: done
[03:39] <dr_willis> goddard:  the proper way in ubuntu to be as bleeding edge  without resorting to using source, would be to find PPA's for what you want to keep on the  bleeding-edge
[03:39] <omac> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:39] <wawowe> Junior: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:39] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, but if you can't protect it with another layer of password when launching seahorse gui then it becomes a big liability
[03:39] <bluesnow> omac: I can ping it now
[03:40] <omac> ping google.ca
[03:40] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, it is protected with another password. but its usually choosen to be your login password. you can change the gnome-keyring password if you want a different factor to unlock than to login
[03:40] <bluesnow> omac: ping google.ca returns ping: unknown host google.ca
[03:41] <goddard> dr_willis: im on 11.10 and i know if i switch to 12.04 its gonna break something
[03:41] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, but what's to stop a thief from viewing your list of pwds after you have logged into your pc ?
[03:41] <dr_willis> 12.04 is working well for me. but ialways do clean installs
[03:42] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, whats to prevent them from dumping the contents of your processes to RAM and finding the password there? whats to prevent them from installing a keylogger on your user account? whats to stop them from ...
[03:42] <omac> go to opendns.com and add rthe 2 dns ip addeses to /etc resolv.conf
[03:42] <renode> what is the command to check what wireless driver you are using?
[03:43] <dr_willis> escott:  from looking at the post-it note on your monitor with your passwords written on it.. ;)
[03:43] <escott> dr_willis, everyone knows that good security requires the post it note be placed UNDER the keyboard
[03:43] <omac> or scroll up to the other answer someone ttold u about resolv.conf
[03:43] <goddard> dr_willis: a clean install every 6 months sounds like a lot of work
[03:44] <Krapaud> Test
[03:44] <goddard> dr_willis: what about all your settings
[03:44] <dr_willis> goddard:  i find the process rather trivial with a seperate home partition.
[03:44] <mr-rich> Hello. trying to set up a Ubuntu virtual server on vbox. Can I install guest additions?
[03:44] <dj_segfault> If I see a ton of unexplained hard drive activity, is there a command to show what processes are accessing the disk?
[03:44] <bluesnow> omac: which two addresses on the site?
[03:44] <goddard> dr_willis: not everything is saved in the home partition though
[03:44] <wolf35_> 大家好
[03:45] <dr_willis> goddard:  all my users impornt stuff is.., rest i can easially restore if i have custome  configs in other system dirs
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> !cn
[03:45] <omac> google opendns.com linux setup
[03:45] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, you are welcome to disable gnome-keyring, but then you dont have any kind of secure keystore. I don't think the existence of the secure keystore is such a great concern. giving someone access to a session under your UID is pretty much giving them whatever they want (if they know what they are doing). maybe if they don't know what they are doing then seahorse seems too easy but is that your adversary?
[03:45] <goddard> dr_willis: what about opt? and stuff you compile
[03:45] <omac> gn
[03:45] <dr_willis> goddard:  i rarely compile stuff to opt, havent needed to in ages
[03:45] <dr_willis> you can put /opt/ on its own partion if you wanted.. or back itup
[03:46] <escott> dj_segfault, iotop
[03:46] <dj_segfault> escott: Thanks.  I'll try that oujt
[03:46] <dr_willis> i also betatest andinstall lots of stuff for testing from in here, so in 6 mo time i got tons of stuff ive installed tht ive ran once.. and dont need.
[03:47] <goddard> dr_willis: yeah a fresh install is good for that
[03:47] <blackmatrix_ny> escott...but it would be so easy for say a friend who wants to quickly check the game score or some site on my pc and to take a quick peek at your list of pwds...
[03:47] <dr_willis> Be neat if Ubuntu coould save/sync your users home settings to your ubuntu one account. ;)
[03:48] <dr_willis> seen ways to set that up. but seems a bit unreliable.
[03:48] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, if those are your friends i wonder who your enemies are.
[03:48] <Piotr2> hello there. good evening everyone.
[03:48] <goddard> dr_willis: back in time does a fine job and i have a seperate partition for home but last time all the versions of my software changed and broke stuff i was working on
[03:49] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, im actually going to try similar thing next time I sit on somebody elses ubuntu machine...that's just human nature
[03:49] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, i would think that using the fast-user-switching would be a better idea. switch them to a guest account if you dont trust them. you may also be able to configure seahorse to request the password before displaying anything (thats really just security through obscurity but...)
[03:50] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, the other problem with disabling the agents is it means typing your password in more frequently. i can imagine a modern smartphone app that records the sound of keypresses and identifies predictions on what the keypresses are based on timing between the key strokes
[03:50] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, yea, now we are talking...so how do I go about putting the pwd on that seahorse thingy everytime it launches
[03:51] <keltus> hi, when I log into my newly installed Ubuntu 12.04 through the GUI login screen, it just turns black with a cursor. I can't do anything else. the non-UI stuff is working fine because when I do Ctrl-Alt-F1, I can log in and install stuff on the text-based console. any ideas what's wrong with the display manager?
[03:51] <Piotr2> Guys, I believe my hosts file is corrupted.
[03:51] <menturi> escott:  I have successfully installed Ubuntu onto the hd, however http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022343.jpg I assume for the same reason as before. After restarting the computer from this point, this came up http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022344.jpg . I suspect it is a list of options after a 'bad shutdown' (similar to Windows), but am not certain. Nothing is legible, and there are two, as you can see.
[03:51] <menturi> Selecting the first item in the list I would guess is normally starting Ubuntu, which resulted in the first image again.
[03:51] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, btw, i'm one of the minorities who prefer better security than simple conveniences like pwd saver
[03:52] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, so this would be the relevant bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/189774
[03:52] <Piotr2> My brother, somehow, blocked some websites here and I thought I'd fixed it, but still I can't connect to ThePirateBay.
[03:52] <Piotr2> Can you tell me how could him do that so I can fix it?
[03:53] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, another approach you might want to try (which would require some complex config) would be to put your master key on a usb stick (you could probably put the entire keyring on it) and then yank that usb stick prior to allowing anyone to use the computer (you would have to do something to tell gnome-keyring to lock the ring as well)
[03:54] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, so just to confirm, currently the seahorse app doesn't provide that feature (verification) right ?
[03:54] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, haven't wrote a bug/feature request for Ubuntu before...just making sure...and thanks for helping out
[03:54] <escott> menturi, the first image appears to be the same panic (b43) as before and would require the same fix (b43.blacklist=yes) the second might be modesetting related so you could try "nomodeset"
[03:55] <bohemian9485> Piotr2: do you use a router?
[03:55] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, it was pushed upstream to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551036
[03:55] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, sorry...just seeing the link...somebody already has mentoned it :-)
[03:57] <sary> keltus: I'd start looking at ~/.xsession-errors & /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. and you could always reconfigure xserver-org , and reconfigure the display manager . either from tty or recoery mode.
[03:57] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, this reminds me of a website i set up. http only (because we weren't going to pay for a cert) and it wasn't crucial for the purpose. so to discourage password reuse I put the password box as a normal textbox. and then people freaked out about that
[03:58] <Flatlined> wireless question ! What does "iwconfig rate 1M auto" do ?
[03:59] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, hehe...you seem very liberal about pwds...Im really anal about it...if you worked for me and you came up with that idea I would have fired you on the spot :-)
[04:00] <keltus> sary: I found this report, and I have the exact same computer (Dimension C521) and exact same Ubuntu install as that person, so I'll try and install the nvidia drivers [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975140]
[04:00] <Phukuup> you mean everyone does not use biometrics?
[04:00] <dr_willis> gotta love it  when some trivial site demands you  use a 12+special characters password... just to keep your angrybirds scores... while the bank is ok with a much less paranoid password system
[04:00] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, what seems liberal about that?
[04:02] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, pwd in plain sight...so everytime a person places in pwd they have to make sure nobody is watching the screen next to them hehe...or tell them to close their eyes
[04:02] <escott> dr_willis, my favorite is when the bank calls me (credit card purchase flags in back office) and asks ME for the answer to my secret phone question. last time I did that I cursed them out for 20 minutes
[04:03] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, when the password is for angrybirds scores thats fine with me. point was to discourage them from doings something stupid like sending their Bank password over http. but since some idiot complained I switched it to the **** format and im sure some other idiot was sending me their bank passwords
[04:03] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, it's funny that the seahorse issue I mentioned was raised three years ago and seems nothing has been done so far
[04:04] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, its a difference of opinion. i don't think you will see a solution. if you value security you should NOT be letting people use your account
[04:04] <celthunder> escott: i get asked for id every time i use my card now and used to never get asked and my cards all get deactivated due to fraud at least twice a month
[04:05] <menturi> escott:  im not sure how to start ubuntu modifying command line like i did previously off the cd.
[04:05] <escott> celthunder, my point was getting a call from a number I do not recognize (and cannot confirm because caller id might be forged right?) and being asked for my password.
[04:05] <escott> menturi, then menu will be different. should be listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:06] <celthunder> escott: lol dont answer :) theyll make you call an automated system you cant verify thats even worse than the people
[04:06] <Phukuup> do this arp -A see if ya got an unidentified ip showing in there
[04:06] <escott> blackmatrix_ny, but if you are ok with it, you could a server I'll setup which you can ssh into. I can personally vouch for the security of it ;)
[04:07] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, i use a common pwd for non sensitive accounts like my nytimes login etc...but I don't want that junk pwd to be known either...letting people use your account is different when seahorse is there and when passwd is stored in like tradional unix safe house /etc/shadow...
[04:07] <sary> keltus: Do you happen to hae the same exact Graphic card chip as that person's machine.
[04:07] <blackmatrix_ny> escott, lol...ok
[04:07] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: because /etc/shadow cant be cracked right, that was done 20 years ago.
[04:08] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, which bit encryption you talking about being cracked ?
[04:09] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, $6$CwBddTop$bnSyhnkA0C/i7.QL65Ztwpu.I.BfkJhJT3rKAp1SxllJ.9I7rCwVzOA/JehMPA/yESj1ed7.A5yHU38sdMiQP    <----can you crack that, that's my root pwd :-)
[04:09] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, in /etc/shadow btw
[04:10] <bluesnow> hi, how could I change the subnet mask on ubuntu 11.10?
[04:10] <celthunder> bluesnow: ifconfig device netmask newsubnet
[04:10] <sary> keltus: lspci | grep VGA .. will determine your video card make and model , and lshw -C video will show more details.
[04:10] <bluesnow> I think the subnet mask is stopping me from communicating with my router, so I can't get wireless :(
[04:10] <bluesnow> celthunder: thanks
[04:11] <celthunder> bluesnow: or ip addr sholud be able to do it as well if yousing that
[04:11] <riex> Hello, I got a little problem. How do i add a new MAC-address in linux? because i have just changed netcard in my server. I hope someone can help me..
[04:11] <keltus> sary: I just did apt-get install nvidia-drivers and that seemed to fix it :)
[04:11] <keltus> thanks
[04:11] <Phukuup> latest nvidiea is 173
[04:12] <sary> keltus: Cool :) .
[04:12] <Phukuup> nvidia-173 sp
[04:12] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: if i had rainbow tables on my hdd with me i could probably
[04:12] <celthunder> Fleck: the mac changes automatically with the hw,  unless you were spoofing it
[04:13] <escott> celthunder, i thought the local salt made that near impossible
[04:13] <celthunder> escott: it makes it harder not impossible
[04:14] <celthunder> escott: salting only does so much and is /etc/shadow even salted? i dont think mine is
[04:14] <escott> celthunder, thats going to be a huge table then. 8 ascii salt characters and a 40 character hash space.
[04:14] <escott> celthunder, CwBddTop is his salt
[04:15] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, yea, after like maybe 20 years :-)
[04:16] <escott> celthunder, if im doing the calculation right your rainbow table needs to have 2^(64+320) entries
[04:16] <celthunder> blackmatrix_ny: in 20 years we will have no privacy whatsoever thanks to morons, and if we do it will be using quantum physics (hopefully)
[04:17] <blackmatrix_ny> celthunder, the underground express will always be humming :-)
[04:18] <bazhang> !ot | blackmatrix_ny celthunder
[04:18] <celthunder> riex: my above mac address thing was for you btw i misread your name
[04:18] <Phukuup> psycho telemetrics like telepathy will eliminate most of the current problems
[04:18] <Phukuup> as well as the need for ipv6
[04:18] <celthunder> lol
[04:19] <bazhang> Phukuup, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <celthunder> we will run out of mac addresses before ipv6
[04:19] <blackmatrix_ny> gn all...lights out
[04:19] <celthunder> bazhang: what was your question
[04:19] <bazhang> celthunder, take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic . there was no question
[04:20] <Phukuup> !ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[04:20] <Phukuup> stoopit bawt
[04:20] <bazhang> Phukuup, stop that
[04:21] <bluesnow> I changed my IP address so I can ping my router now, but I still can't connect to sites for some reason
[04:22] <bluesnow> How can I get the value that the "gateway" should be set to for manual IPv4?
[04:22] <aot2002> bluesnow, What is your /etc/resolv.conf have in it for dns?
[04:23] <Phukuup> bluesnow default gateway?
[04:23] <aot2002> bluesnow, "route"
[04:23] <Phukuup> ifconfig
[04:24] <Phukuup> or route
[04:24] <celthunder> bluesnow:your gateway is the ip ut of your subnet check your router or layer 3 switch if you have one.
[04:26] <personaprospekt> how do i get the unity bar to only show up on one monitor and get the secondary monitor to automatically go to the side of the first instead of going to clone by default
[04:27] <aot2002> bluesnow, also see "route -n"
[04:28] <bluesnow> aot2002: route just gives me the gateway I assigned manually
[04:28] <bluesnow> aot2002: but I can't connect to any sites. I can only ping myself and my router
[04:29] <celthunder> bluesnow: so you can ping the router? thats your gateway..
[04:29] <Phukuup> bluesnow does ifconfig show the same default gateway?
[04:29] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  whays your video card?  normally you enable xinerama for a 'wide' desktop spaning both monitors
[04:30] <aot2002> bluesnow, can you post what your /etc/resolv.conf file has in it for DNS servers?
[04:31] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: ati radeon proprietary drivers i have it in multiple monitor mode with xinerama off.  it wont let me turn it on even.
[04:31] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  xinerama is what handles the wide desktop feaature. withotu it. i guess you are stuck with cloneing.
[04:32] <dr_willis> but i thought ati had a similernammed feature with more special 'features' - i rarely use ati
[04:32] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: even if i could turn it on it seems to reset all my graphics settings i have wide desktop working just it gives me 2 unity bars
[04:32] <aot2002> bluesnow, do a "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and let me know what's in it.
[04:32] <bluesnow> aot2002: /etc/resolve.conf has nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:32] <dr_willis> personaprospekt:  this is in 12.04? i thought that was the default for a bar on each monitor. then they changed it befor final release.
[04:32] <bttf> im running this makefile but it cant find/read a file that works fine when read from manually
[04:32] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: every time i plug in the second monitor it goes to cloning once more, and yes there are bars on both monitors
[04:33] <bttf> the same command fails when in the makefile but succeeds whe ni do it
[04:33] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: and yes 12.04.
[04:33] <aot2002> bluesnow, change that to your router ip which should handle dns for you.
[04:33] <mr-rich> Ok, I'm setting up an Ubuntu web server. What is the best free (GPL'd) web control pannel software?
[04:33] <celthunder> Athanasius: 4.2.2.* is valid
[04:33] <celthunder> er aot2002 thats valid its opendns and works fine
[04:34] <menturi> I am stuck. escott I was able to go to recovery mode menu item, and then get to the shell/terminal/command line/whatever it is called (hehe), however I now don't know what do at this point to get ubuntu booting (with b43.blacklist=yes)
[04:34] <aot2002> celthunder, I'm aware it is.
[04:34] <celthunder> why use your router for dns? thats not what its for its for routing, which is what he cant do anyway
[04:34] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/130327/unity-on-both-screens-with-dual-monitors
[04:35] <aot2002> celthunder, the router should forward it off to the proper isp dns. I'm just seeing if there's an issue with the current dns settings.
[04:35] <bluesnow> aot2002: I changed the DNS server to my router's ip and it's still not working
[04:35] <menturi> Oh escott is no longer with us. Maybe somebody else can help me out. How do I boot ubuntu from the shell (but with "b43.blacklist=yes" added)?
[04:35] <dr_willis> boot ubuntu from the 'shell' ?
[04:36] <menturi> hehe sorry about my poor terms :P
[04:36] <Phukuup> sudo shutdown -r now
[04:36] <celthunder> menturi: shutdown -r now add that to your /etc/modprobe.d/ beforehand or add it to grub
[04:36] <dr_willis> at the grub menu, you can edit the boot line and append thsat b43.blabla  after the line - similer to 'quiet splash b43.xxxxxx'
[04:36] <aot2002> bluesnow, can you pastebin your ifconfig and "cat /etc/resolv.conf" output. I assume your chatting through the same internet connection that your attempting to run this on?
[04:36] <bluesnow> aot2002: Can't pastebin, I'm on a separate computer
[04:37] <Phukuup> wow
[04:37] <celthunder> bluesnow: whats your subnet mask and gateway set to currently and ip
[04:37] <celthunder> bluesnow: and routers ip on the port you are connecting to
[04:38] <aot2002> bluesnow, I guess you can't type it?
[04:39] <bluesnow> celthunder: my IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>, netmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, DNS servers is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:39] <Phukuup> that should be working
[04:39] <aot2002> bluesnow, What's in your routing table?
[04:39] <bluesnow> aot2002: I can type it. it will take a bit. is there any specific part of the output I should type?
[04:39] <aot2002> bluesnow, no what you gave is fine that's what I wanted to see.
[04:39] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I manually assigned the IP address to myself. would that make it not work?
[04:40] <Phukuup> uh huh
[04:40] <celthunder> bluesnow: no unless you blacklisted the ip or put it in a vlan that cant route out
[04:40] <wylde> bluesnow: only if you have 2 devices trying to operate on the same ip
[04:41] <Phukuup> yup that would be my guess
[04:41] <aot2002> bluesnow, Just curious what is the ip address, subnet, and gateway of the computer your chatting with currently?
[04:41] <menturi> dr_jesus:  unfortunately my grub menu is litterally unreadable due to some reason it displays incorrectly. How can I edit the boot line once I get to that menu?
[04:41] <menturi> ( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53794511/Images/0516022344.jpg )
[04:41] <Phukuup> menturi: why can you not just reboot?
[04:42] <menturi> Phukuup:  the kernel goes into a panic.
[04:42] <Phukuup> hmm
[04:43] <Phukuup> menturi: no 3rd party scsi involed is there?
[04:43] <personaprospekt> dr_willis: ok that works.  now how to make the current settings default i changed and saved all the confiigs as root but every time i connect and disconnect the second display it resets to clone
[04:43] <bluesnow> celthunder: my laptop is IP: <IP_ADDRESS> subnet: <IP_ADDRESS> IPv4 gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> DHCP server: <IP_ADDRESS> DNS <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:43] <Phukuup> whoa different subnet
[04:44] <bluesnow> celthunder: Okay, just noticed that this doesn't match up with the router's IP.
[04:44] <menturi> this is a fresh install. i was unable to even install ubuntu without adding the b43.blacklist=yes part.
[04:44] <celthunder> Phukuup: thats ok, i have different subnets...
[04:44] <celthunder> bluesnow: you can have multiple router ips...in fact you SHOULD have at least 2
[04:44] <Phukuup> the router is doing dhcp
[04:44] <aot2002> bluesnow, bingo
[04:45] <celthunder> menturi: just add the blacklist to /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere
[04:45] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I tried using DHCP auto for everything earlier, but it wasn't working
[04:45] <celthunder> bluesnow: interesting so it hands out invalid ips or  ?
[04:45] <bluesnow> my ubuntu desktop had wireless about 7 hours earlier today, and then after a reboot it stopped working
[04:46] <menturi> i guess it is time to learn how to open and edit a file via terminal :P
[04:46] <Phukuup> menturi: something is bad wrong with your boot image
[04:46] <bluesnow> celthunder: I'm not sure. I had everything on DHCP auto earlier and it worked. And then after a reboot it stopped working. I've rebooted multiple times since, and it hasn't worked again.
[04:46] <celthunder> menturi: vim or emacs preferred joe nano or ed are also usually around
[04:46] <menturi> Phukuup:  the drivers for the wireless card afaik is the cause... or something relating to the wireless... I don't fully understand what the issue is.
[04:46] <Phukuup> bluesnow because you set it to static maunally
[04:47] <bluesnow> Phukuup: I've set it back to DHCP a few times and rebooted, and it hasn't worked.
[04:47] <Phukuup> mm my upgrade seems to have stopped
[04:49] <Phukuup> maybe it's just slow
[04:49] <bluesnow> Phukuup: It's pretty fast when it works. But it's stopped working completely.
[04:50] <aot2002> bluesnow, Did you try "dhclient" from the command line?
[04:50] <menturi> celthunder:  silly question: is modprobe.d a directory or a file?
[04:50] <bluesnow> aot2002: I'll try that.
[04:51] <Phukuup> I wouldn't mess with the inits you got enough problems
[04:51] <mitchell> anyone compile ircd-hybrid to enable SSL here?
[04:52] <dosht> hi, I have gnome shell on ubuntu 11.10. When I change proxy with gconf it does not reflect to the network settings and it does not change the proxy. I'm trying to use pac url
[04:52] <Phukuup> nod eye
[04:52] <mitchell>  I'm looking for the series of steps to compile ircd-hybrid to INCLUDE SSL on a Ubuntu server
[04:52] <Phukuup> make install
[04:53] <bluesnow> aot2002: dhclient doesn't fix it either
[04:53] <Phukuup> prolly got a arg for -SSL
[04:53] <armence> Hello all. Where can I download the netbook edition?
[04:53] <mitchell> anyone have a link to a SSL enabled hybrid-ircd server ubuntu compiled package?
[04:53] <dr_willis> armence:  thats basically obsolete.
[04:53] <menturi> celthunder> menturi: just add the blacklist to /etc/modprobe.d/ somewhere << nevermind my last question; i was using cd incorrectly. i see various files in here; where should i modify what?
[04:53] <dr_willis> armence:  there may be some iso's of it still on the ubuntu servers.
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, What's the recommended solution for ubuntu on netbooks then?
[04:54] <The> Have any of you ever seen a spaceship?
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, Just normal ubuntu?
[04:54] <dr_willis> armence:  normal ubuntu 12.04 works fine on my netbook...
[04:54] <mardraum> ground control to major tom
[04:54] <dr_willis> armence:  the netbook edition and the regbular ubuntu  becvame the ssame thing about 3 releases back.
[04:54] <bluesnow> Oh, it's working now
[04:54] <armence> dr_willis, Thanks
[04:55] <mitchell> Phukuup, there's a devious series of steps to include SSL when compiling the source code of hybrid-ircd with openssl
[04:55] <bluesnow> DHCP + dhclient did the trick I think
[04:55] <aot2002> :)
[04:55] <mitchell> just wondering if anyone here has done it ?
[04:55] <bluesnow> thanks for the help :)
[04:55] <aot2002> Welcome
[04:55] <mitchell> anyone recommend a specific ircd SSL enabled server for me to try on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[04:55] <neo31> hello folks, please I need some help to enable iptables service on ubuntu 12.04, I have installed the package iptables but I don't have anyservice to make it run
[04:56] <dr_willis> iptables service? thought that was part of the default firewalling features
[04:56] <dr_willis> !info iptables
[04:56] <neo31> I had ufw and I have removed it to install iptables
[04:57] <dr_willis> last i looked ufw used the iptables tools.... but i dont do firewalling much
[04:57] <celthunder> mitchell: anything but unreal should be fine
[04:57] <dr_willis> iptables 'is standard' - that means its installed by default?
[04:57] <aot2002> dr_willis, yup
[04:57] <neo31> I just need to have something like /etc/init.d/iptables
[04:58] <aot2002> ufw just adds rules in iptables
[04:58] <neo31> humm
[04:58] <aot2002> neo31, Are you just trying to make sure it's running?
[04:58] <dr_willis> and iptables runs automatically if any rules exist... i thought
[04:58] <dr_willis> my router does all my firewalling these days. ;) im lazy
[04:58] <aot2002> dr_willis, you can take the firewall down
[04:59] <neo31> yes aot2002
[04:59] <dr_willis> sudo iptables --list        i recall shows any current firewall rules..
[04:59] <mitchell> I'm finding SSL is not easy to include nor setup for a Ubuntu based IRCD regardless of their ad's and descriptions celthunder
[04:59] <neo31> fine
[05:00] <celthunder> dr_willis: iptables runs automatically it doesnt automatcially load any rules and for default there really isnt any answer to that you decide when you compile your kernel and add your packages
[05:00] <neo31> it's running already
[05:00] <dr_willis> 'if iptables is running with no rules... is it really running..'  how 'zen' ;)
[05:01] <celthunder> mitchell: ratbox ircu and ng probably support ssl
[05:01] <Phukuup> holy cr** it was stuck waiting for me to restart stuff
[05:02] <celthunder> dr_willis: it makes sense...do you really want your firewall to load rules on reboot?  once you define your rules its easy enough to make it use them on boot but nobody really wants that by default
[05:02] <mitchell> I haven't tried ratbox yet celthunder, setup celsomething but can't get the SSL to enable on it either :(
[05:02] <celthunder> mitchell: ok where did you get your ssl cert from and whats the issue with it
[05:03] <celthunder> rather than saying it doesnt work what about it doesnt work
[05:03] <mitchell> celthunder, sadly hybrid-ircd got into a 'discussion' over licensing with openssl and stopped compiling the packages with it enabled
[05:03] <mitchell> celthunder it's a lot more than just compiling the cert's and keys but yes I've done those several times in different directorys celthunder
[05:03] <Phukuup> umm for future reference the upgrade for 12.04 does indeed stop at unpacking until you retart some services had I not opened the terminal to look I would not have seen that
[05:04] <aot2002> Phukuup, nice
[05:04] <Phukuup> I would still be waiting
[05:04] <mitchell> the specific issue celthunder is no SSL working with any ircd server I have setup, regardless of my creating and setting up the certs, pub.key files
[05:05] <celthunder> mitchell: what happens when you try whats the error
[05:05] <celthunder> mitchell: make it listen with ssl and give the error
[05:07] <mitchell> sorry celthunder, I can't find the exact SSL error as I'm currently on another box
[05:09] <Phukuup> I hope all these errors I am seeing in terminal are fixed before restart or my goose is gonna be cooked
[05:11] <celthunder> Phukuup: lol errors for what? make/configure?
[05:12] <celthunder> Phukuup: i would be more worried at not seeing make/configure error.
[05:12] <celthunder> as long as its not fatal it probably isnt too important
[05:13] <aot2002> Phukuup, just make sure it's 180+ degrees before you eat it.
[05:18] <HareyJ> Hey... what can I do about an Xorg -configure erroring out and saying "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices." ?
[05:20] <Phukuup> revert to old xorg  cofiguration
[05:21] <HareyJ> there isn't one, it crashes when it tries to use the nvidia driver..
[05:21] <mitchell> anyone see/have any link to hybrid-ircd 7.3-SSL package for Ubuntu or .Deb ?
[05:21] <HareyJ> I don't know X well at all, I don't even know where the original is.. I was just told to do the configure in here earlier to fix a freezing issue
[05:23] <celthunder> HareyJ: nvidia has its own config util use that
[05:23] <celthunder> Xorg -configure is for open source drivers
[05:23] <Phukuup> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1486054
[05:24] <celthunder> nvidia-xconfig or something
[05:25] <HareyJ> Yes, I want to go back to nouveau drivers, the nvidia one is freezing my machine.
[05:29] <od--> Does anyone know why xorg-fbdev would only show contents on the screen after it has exited and display blank while running?
[05:30] <nanananabatman> How can I change the background of the login screen?
[05:32] <bluesnow> is there a way to change screen brightness in ubuntu 11.10? adjusting the brightness dial in screen is not working :(
[05:32] <erealz> can some on please help me troubleshoot a problem with my router?
[05:33] <erealz> i think it the router anyways
[05:34] <erealz> recently i notice i cant reach certin websites then wont load and i cant login to my shellaccount
[05:34] <erealz> but if i vpn first then try and load page it loads up just fine?
[05:34] <erealz> why is this?
[05:35] <erealz> anyone ever run into this problem?
[05:40] <celthunder> bluesnow: on the monitor or fn brightness buttons in a laptop
[05:52] <azl> route
[05:55] <alusion> How do I play .mkv on ubuntu?  What is the best converter program?
[05:56] <alusion> to convert mkv to avi on ubuntu
[05:57] <Syria_> >>>>
[05:58] <Syria_> hi
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> alusion, try winff
[05:59] <L3top> mplayer will play .mkv
[05:59] <L3top> You probably will need some codecs
[05:59] <Syria_> I connect to VPS via termial using this command ssh -D "port" @address, please help me to export this connection via ad-hoc wifi.
[06:00] <L3top> and vlc will play almost anything... there are some annoying changes in 2.X
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> vlc will probably play a mkv which is just a container anyway
[06:04] <adv__> enhance performance of Ubuntu by disabling unwanted things?? awaiting Ideas ??
[06:05] <dr_willis> i doubt if you will see much differance adv__  unless yoiu have very low end hardware
[06:05] <wolf35> hi
[06:05] <dr_willis> in which case. yoiiu may as well use lubuntu for the lightest desktop
[06:05] <adv__> I wish to run it from usb on Vbox
[06:06] <adv__> but certain programs dont run in light desktop
[06:06] <dr_willis> from usb on vbox?  You mean have vbox access a actual usb device? why not use a virtual hd:
[06:06] <dr_willis> adv__:  ive not noticed anything not working in lubuntu.
[06:06] <adv__> yep have usb3 11.10 was blazing 12.04 is slow...
[06:07] <adv__> will give lubuntu a try.
[06:07] <adv__> I wanted to run jfire server was not able to...
[06:07] <dr_willis> if you want the best vbox speeds. use a virtual hd image file. not a real device.
[06:07] <adv__> hmm
[06:07] <dr_willis> no idea what 'jfire' is.
[06:07] <adv__> ok
[06:07] <wylde> !mini | adv__: Install minimal and install only what you need?
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info jfire
[06:08] <adv__> ok thanks dr_willis , ubottu
[06:08] <adv__> never mind abt jfire..
[06:09] <adv__> wow havent seen minimal cd.... only 27MB
[06:09] <adv__> ought to try that
[06:09] <dr_willis> heh a full tinycorelinux cd = 10mb. ;)
[06:10] <adv__> does to give gui?
[06:10] <dr_willis> MultiCoreLinux = 35mb.
[06:10] <adv__> dont want to leave ubuntu...
[06:10] <dr_willis> both come with X and a minimal desktop
[06:10] <dr_willis> Ubuntu Minimal cd = just the basics - you then install what you want
[06:10] <adv__> have been with ubuntu since 6. something
[06:10] <dr_willis> basics as in - you get a shell...
[06:10] <adv__> ok
[06:11] <dr_willis> tinycore/multicore - is too handy to overlook ;)
[06:11] <adv__> will try it too
[06:12] <alusion> winFF doesn't even work..
[06:13] <adv__> dr, what is the craziest thing u have done with ubuntu?
[06:13] <bohemian9485> !info bluetooth module v2.1
[06:13] <dr_willis> i  belive winff needed me to tweak the terminal setting it used. for some reason it needed to be set to use 'xterm -e' instead of the x-terminam-application
[06:13] <dr_willis> i have been using winff for the last 2 weeks on and off in 12.04 - so it does work
[06:14] <dr_willis> arista is a nice alternative to winff also.
[06:14] <alusion> Thanks I will try that out
[06:15] <wolf35> hi
[06:15] <alusion> dr_willis do you help people with IT as part of your profession btw?
[06:15] <wolf35> who here
[06:15] <dr_willis> alusion:  nope. just a hobby
[06:15] <dr_willis> i dont use computers much at all.. in my normal job.
[06:15] <alusion> Very cool, I respect that. What is your normal job if I may ask?
[06:16] <dr_willis> I work for Chrysler - in a factory fixing machines...
[06:17] <alusion> I try not to get the two involved myself as I intended to use ubuntu for a more stable machine that I feel I have more control / ownership / manipulability and flexibility towards but I work mainly in the arts .. now I find myself obsessing over the OS more than I originally intended
[06:17] <dr_willis> i am seeing linux used in some of the CNC machines i work on. :) embeded in the controllers
[06:17] <alusion> Very cool, I was thinking about building a CNC machine myself. I always wanted to have a sort of "Creation station" since the technologies have brought it closer to a consumer market
[06:19] <alusion> What kind of preset should I use for converting mkv to something I can watch on the comp / android tablet?
[06:20] <alusion> something that plays friendly with either ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> with the right player - my android phone/fire can play most anything i throw at it.
[06:20] <dr_willis> arista has several  presets for android, as does winff
[06:20] <WotWhere> need help troubleshooting Ubuntu 12.04 installed on System, Bulldozer fx-8120 + msi 990fxa-gd65 mobo, driver problems i suspect, the realtek HD Audio driver was not installed, but worst the System hangs on clicking some links
[06:20] <dr_willis> moboplayer, or rockplayer on android plays most everything here.
[06:21] <dr_willis> theres even vlc for android now.
[06:21] <lmaowaffle> hi guys. Are any of you familiar with setxkbmap - more specifically, remapping capslock as control key? my .xinitrc directives had previously worked (months ago) and I'm assuming that there has since been a change in xorg. My .xinitrc had setxkbmap -layout us -model evdev -rules xorg -option ctrl:nocaps
[06:21] <alusion> yup I got the VLC, ima just load up the files on a external and try playing from there then
[06:22] <lmaowaffle> the command works manually after X starts at a terminal
[06:22] <lmaowaffle> the rest of .xinitrc loads fine at X startup
[06:22] <dr_willis> i thought the .xinitrc only  gotr read if you  used  the 'custom' X session from lightdm
[06:23] <lmaowaffle> dr_willis: I have symlinks setup
[06:23] <dr_willis> setup for what. You could use the .config/autostart (or was it autorun) directory
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> i forget the symlink.. .xsession perhaps?
[06:24] <dr_willis> i thought the gnome keyboard config tool had settings for those also. could be its overrideing them
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> something I gleaned from an ubuntu tut
[06:24] <lmaowaffle> i'll investigate that
[06:25] <dr_willis> I thought that.. .xsession/.xinitrc ONLY got ran when you used the custome X session from lightdm. they dont get ran when you use 'ubuntu' or 'gnome' or other sessions,
[06:25] <dr_willis> ie:  they dont get ran 'in in addation to' the normal desktop
[06:28] <lmaowaffle> i neglected to mention that I'm using slim (again, from tut)
[06:28] <lmaowaffle> that might make it easier for you to digest ;)
[06:29] <dr_willis> if you are going the .xinitrc route.. then you may want to controll everything from .xinitrc  have it do your commands, then start the window manavger/desktop you want
[06:30] <dr_willis> i imagine slim works the same way... if you select the ubuntu session, it runs the stuff defined in the ubuntu.desktop session file. it doent run that AND stuff from .xinitrc
[06:31] <dr_willis>  the .config/autostart directory has stuff that can get ran automatically for ubuntu, kubuntu, and gnome-shell. i think lubuntu and xubuntu also make use of the .config/autostart dir
[06:33] <adv__> recently observed mintos on distowatch, how is it?
[06:34] <dr_willis> Mint is not Ubuntu. :)  I dont see much need for me to use mint.
[06:34] <dr_willis> never really noticed much it did - thts normal ubuntu dosent do. perhasp a few tweaks or other defaults.
[06:35] <issri> is there any place where i can find initrd.gz and vmlinuz images of both amd64 and i386 versions separately?
[06:36] <issri> i mean without getting the whole iso image
[06:36] <dr_willis> the mini iso is like  a few dozen mb. may hav them
[06:38] <HeartUbuntu> just installed 12.04, the information window during the install, the gorgeous purple one with the twitter feeds, is there an application with that same theme for live twitter feeds? looked awesome!
[06:41] <issri> dr_willis: thanks. could you please provide me with a link address too?
[06:41] <dr_willis> i think that was just a special feature they did for the installer.
[06:41] <HeartUbuntu> is there an app in the base system to test my 3d?
[06:41] <HeartUbuntu> aww, ty willis
[06:41] <dr_willis> issri:  samew place the  normal iso files would be at. Ive neverreally used the mini iso
[06:41] <dr_willis> !mini
[06:42] <dr_willis> ive never gotten into twitter.. ;) just more mindless spammage from what i see on the twitter feedd on my phone
[06:42] <HeartUbuntu> the latest installer is so freaking sleak, and letting you do the customizations during install, beats playing freecell during install, lol
[06:42] <dr_willis> i get enough of that on IRC.    ;P
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> lol, but i'd follow random people just to have that theme on my second monitor, lol
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> i love the color scheme for 12.04
[06:43] <dr_willis> i always change to blue/grayish colors...
[06:43] <HeartUbuntu> nothing wrong with classic clean
[06:44] <dr_willis> Hot Pink and Lilac! ;))
[06:44] <brianpWins> I've got ubuntu 10.04 and have logged in with a user that should be in the admin group. I logged in via ssh key so i didn't need the p/w and should have sudo priv's. I don't for the life of me remember what my password is
[06:44] <dr_willis> always amuseing when new features  list 'differnt themes'
[06:45] <llutz_> dr_willis: people just like eye-candy, the won't use a linux-system to work with it
[06:45] <brianpWins> how can i verify I'm in the admin group and do something about the password issue?
[06:45] <dr_willis> id rather see more time spend in fixing little things.. then making a new icon set.
[06:45] <llutz_> brianpWins: "id" tells you
[06:45] <HeartUbuntu> hey, i use terminal too! good thing nowadays, i only need to use it minimally
[06:45] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: how to change the colors?
[06:45] <dr_willis> MarkiteN:  depends on  what colors you mean.
[06:45] <HeartUbuntu> i remember back in the day of redhat/mandrake, bah... installing my graphic drivers were a b****
[06:46] <brianpWins> llutz_: sweet i am in admin thanks
[06:46] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: the colors of panel, dashboard, and title bar..
[06:47] <dr_willis> MarkiteN:  i just use differnt themes from the webupd8 ppa and  so forth till i get the mixx i like
[06:47] <WotWhere> need help troubleshooting Ubuntu 12.04 installed on System, Bulldozer fx-8120 + msi 990fxa-gd65 mobo, driver problems i suspect, the realtek HD Audio driver was not installed, but worst the System hangs on clicking some links
[06:47] <WotWhere> Where can i check if the drivers are working correctly
[06:47] <HeartUbuntu> this time, i'm gonna try to use unity, but... things aren't categorized as efficiently as gnome2 classic mode, and i still feel like the dock that's all the rage isn't that efficient, just cleaner looking
[06:48] <dr_willis> i got a classic-menu-indicator applet for Unity that lets me use theold menus ;)
[06:48] <dr_willis> but i use the hud more and more to launch things.
[06:48] <HeartUbuntu> you get an icon in the top right asking for you to install proprietary drivers wotwhere?
[06:48] <MarkiteN> dr_willis: thank you
[06:49] <HeartUbuntu> ya, i'm gonna try to just stick with it and get used to it, if not, log into classic mode
[06:49] <WotWhere> HeartUbuntu: thanx
[06:49] <dr_willis> unity in 12.04 has some real neat features once you learn them.
[06:50] <HeartUbuntu> interface seems very much like osx, just not as good
[06:51] <dr_willis> icons on a panel...  gee.. thats been around befor OS-x ;)
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> omg, doesn't let you move launcher from the left?
[06:51] <dr_willis> but i haventused apple in ages.. got rid of my PPC imac a few months back
[06:51] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  not at this time.
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> i have an old grape g3 in the closet
[06:51] <HeartUbuntu> :p
[06:52] <dr_willis> theres some unofficial hacks to move the launcher to the bottom. but thats not supported here.. and can cause issues.
[06:52] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  it make an ok  'ssh' terminal box. ;)
[06:52] <HeartUbuntu> that was my turn off first time i used it, because i move to the left a lot, and launcher kept getting in my way, not to mention it wouldn't pop up right, sometimes get stuck, etc
[06:52] <Silversong> Hey guys, I got a quick question (new Ubuntu user here). I am trying to download Java from java.com to run Java Applets
[06:53] <Silversong> I downloaded the .rpm file and extracted everything, I see the Java folder
[06:53] <dr_willis> Left launcher panel is set to not auto hide by default any more.
[06:53] <dr_willis> !java | Silversong
[06:53] <Silversong> But the applets still don't load like I don't even have Java
[06:53] <dr_willis> dont use the rpm Silversong  thats not for ubuntu
[06:53] <Silversong> Oh...
[06:53] <Silversong> All right. Thanks dr_willis. I shall delete that
[06:53] <HeartUbuntu> i always try to google the proper apt-get commands for installing stuff rather than downloading packages, less of a headache
[06:53] <dr_willis> rpm = mandrake/redhat
[06:54] <dr_willis> deb = ubuntu, debian
[06:54] <dr_willis> the open soruced javais in the repos.. oraccles java needs extra work
[06:54] <HeartUbuntu> or... run synaptic package manager, search for something like "java" and read the descriptions of the packages
[06:55] <dr_willis> thats the open sourced java. in synaptic. which may not run all the java apps ... it depends on what you are runnijg
[06:55] <Silversong> Thanks dr
[06:56] <Silversong> :) Thanks
[06:56] <dr_willis> Thank Oracle for the added work we have to do now for java..
[06:56] <HeartUbuntu> any reason to run 64 bit other than utilizing more ram?
[06:56] <dr_willis> what a ...wonderfull... company
[06:57] <dr_willis> If your hardware supports 64bit -  i say use 64bit
[06:57] <dr_willis> not much reason to not go 64bit these days
[06:57] <HeartUbuntu> my pc supports 64 bit, just figured i won't get much of a boost and less headaches with 32 bit
[06:58] <dr_willis> i dont think the 'less headaches with 32bit' applys any more these days
[06:58] <HeartUbuntu> i'll try 64 bit next time
[06:58] <Silversong> dr_willis Do I need both JDK and JRE?
[06:58] <intore> hi, i have a debian server and ubuntu clients. The debian server has been installed in textual mode and the users on the client have their home directories on the server. After login on the clients using gdm appears the error "could not update iceauthority file". What must be installed on the server?
[06:58] <dr_willis> Silversong:  no idea.. do you need the java developers kit? :)
[06:59] <Silversong> I already have Eclipse
[06:59] <Silversong> I use that
[06:59] <Silversong> I just need something to RUN java right now for java applets in Firefox
[06:59] <dr_willis> If you are developing in java.. then you know more about java development then i do. ;)
[06:59] <dr_willis> jre = runtime enviroment
[06:59] <Silversong> fair enough, lol
[07:00] <Silversong> I'm still learning about java development. taking a class on that right now xD
[07:00] <dr_willis> i rarely code in anything these days
[07:01] <adv__> bye all
[07:01] <HeartUbuntu> gl silver, i did awesome in the most basic java classes, but bah, i'm too ADD for object oriented languages
[07:01] <HeartUbuntu> i envy programmers
[07:01] <Silversong> Lol, I'm learning Java, OOP and Web Applications
[07:01] <Silversong> In this ONE course
[07:02] <Silversong> My university has this course that focuses all of them, and I'm taking it over a summer session
[07:02] <HeartUbuntu> can't wait til html5 is the default over flash, this is the reason i'm reinstalling ubuntu, flash causes software problems with my windows internet, makes me get client side lag and disconnects
[07:02] <Marzata> Silversong: what uni?
[07:02] <Silversong> Marzata: Penn State
[07:02] <HeartUbuntu> sounds fun silver
[07:03] <knowj> Anyone have any idea what's happening with this SSH login (RSA key) http://pastebin.com/TBNUafxT (Ubuntu 12.04 clean install, newuser, ssh-keygen)?
[07:03] <Silversong> Yeah. Just one the first class yesterday. I'm really excited. Lmao, still a very nooby programmer, but chipping my way there.
[07:03] <Silversong> For the FIRST TIME I finally learned about how to make a GUI. Hahaha
[07:03] <Silversong> And I just got Ubuntu what, 4 days ago?
[07:04] <HeartUbuntu> nice to just focus in all of the during one semester, but hope they don't cheat you over the summer like my college did. prof gave us all the answers the to midterm and final, and all our coding, we had prewritten code to edit, i learned nothing
[07:04] <Marzata> Silversong: how much cost a year in psu?
[07:05] <Silversong> Marzata: I have student loans, so about 30K?
[07:05] <Silversong> It's very expensive, lol, but I see it as a form of investment. Learning a lot.
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: ah, 30 K USD / year?
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: ah, 30 K USD / year? for a state uni?
[07:06] <HeartUbuntu> if i had to do it over, i'd do first two years in community first
[07:06] <Silversong> Yeah it's the most costly state university in the country lol.
[07:06] <Silversong> But it's the best State University (not including those University Of... universities)
[07:06] <Marzata> Silversong: in Scandinavia Unis are free.
[07:07] <Silversong> Yeah I know. My friend's from Stockholm.
[07:07] <HeartUbuntu> i hope someday, there will be open source education as online universities get more popular, and you can just pay for rigorous tests to get a degree
[07:07] <Marzata> Silversong: isn't it OSU better than PSU?
[07:09] <HeartUbuntu> gnome3 installed in ubuntu by default?
[07:09] <mitchell> Generating pairs of strong Public and Private RSA encrypted key-pairs for your SSH Server/Client http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=97505&start=20
[07:09] <dr_willis> HeartUbuntu:  unity runs on top of gnome-3 yes. its a shell on top of it
[07:10] <dr_willis> !unity
[07:10] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[07:11] <Silversong> Marzata: Depends on majors. School of Engineering (for Computer Science and Computer Engineering, they're not, generally they're lower ranked, too)
[07:11] <mitchell> anyone running a ircd server under a Ubuntu server here ?
[07:11] <llutz_> !ot
[07:12] <Silversong> I can't get my Unity to run 3d. It's been Unity-2d. I'm trying to install the proprietary graphic driver. May need you guys' help later after I install Java
[07:12] <somethinginteres> I have bind DNS installed to tweak behaviour for specific sites. I want to make sure that my ISPs DNS is being used for everything else. /etc/resolv.conf shows <IP_ADDRESS>. Does this mean I am correct in assuming it's using my BIND server for ALL dns queries?
[07:12] <llutz_> somethinginteres: if theres no other entry, yes
[07:13] <Alkan> Türkiye'den kimse var mı arkadaşlar?
[07:13] <llutz_> !tr | Alkan
[07:14] <wabbira> I'm trying to install Ubuntu from a disk I bought through OSDisk. Does anyone know how long "Installing system" should appear for? It's not making any noise, and the bar has been stuck at 80% full for a couple minutes now (I tried once before and waited 10 minutes).
[07:15] <Marzata> Silversong: so, for a B.Sc. you have to pay 90 K USD?
[07:15] <Silversong> 120K. It's 4 years here
[07:15] <HeartUbuntu> shouldn't get stuck like that unless maybe you enabled updates through internet
[07:16] <dr_willis> wabbira:  if downloading updates was checked.. it can take some time
[07:16] <somethinginteres> llutz: Damn. That may be fine if I can confirm that my BIND server is using my ISPs DNS to answer the queries. Dunno how else it could answer them since I have not specified a ton of info for sites only a few
[07:16] <wabbira> Oh - I unchecked "install 3rd party software" this time, but selected enable updates for flash
[07:16] <dr_willis> i alwyas check both :)
[07:16] <HeartUbuntu> you have a thumbdrive with at least 1 gig? you can try to download the iso and use LiLi to create a live usb boot installer
[07:16] <wabbira> i googled and they said uncheck 3rd party if it hangs
[07:17] <dr_willis> servers being slow - is not the same as hanging. ;) but it dosent matter a lot.
[07:17] <wabbira> oh god, please no - i spent 16 hours trying to get that to work, ended up shelling out for the disk.
[07:17] <dr_willis> uncheck both for fastesst install. and update later
[07:17] <wabbira> is it normal that it's not making any noise?
[07:17] <dr_willis> 16 hrs making a bootable usb? should take 4 min..
[07:17] <wabbira> no, kept running into problem after problem
[07:18] <wabbira> eventually got it to boot from the usb, but couldn't install
[07:18] <dr_willis> open a temrinal, ccheck 'dmesg' output. or the log files..  i guess
[07:18] <somethinginteres> llutz_, : Damn. That may be fine if I can confirm that my BIND server is using my ISPs DNS to answer the queries. Dunno how else it could answer them since I have not specified a ton of info for sites only a few.
[07:18] <dr_willis> i had 12.04 downloaded and installed in less then an hr on release day. ;)
[07:18] <dr_willis> torrents were real real fast that day
[07:19] <WotWhere> Hi All
[07:19] <WotWhere> on bootup.. before login screen appears...  i get errors
[07:19] <WotWhere> rebooted the comp to try ur suggestion.. No I do not get an Icon asking fro installation of propreitary drivers
[07:19] <WotWhere> I used jockey.. it says No Propreitary drivers are installed
[07:19] <WotWhere> while i was doing this.. i get .. Ubuntu has an internal error.. try restarting
[07:19] <FloodBot1> WotWhere: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <WotWhere> In the Scroll window that appears
[07:20] <Miscni> morning all
[07:20] <dr_willis> WotWhere:  id  do a update and upgrade to make sure system is up to daate, then try jockey again
[07:21] <Silversong> Need a bit help here again. I downloaded that .tar.gz
[07:21] <Silversong> extracted it to usr/lib/jvm
[07:21] <dr_willis> Silversong:  what tar.gz? we have short memorys here...
[07:21] <Silversong> java
[07:21] <Silversong> the java file
[07:21] <Silversong> the JRE
[07:21] <dr_willis> I think i just used the ppa from the webup8 site. ;)  i dont recall what the java wiki page said to do..
[07:22] <Silversong> blah. i think i'll keep working on this tomorrow. it's 3:22 am here. too tired lol
[07:22] <Silversong> night
[07:22] <dr_willis> theres scripts out that automate setting up oraccle java
[07:22] <Silversong> yea
[07:22] <Silversong> I'll see the tomorrow. Thanks.
[07:22] <Silversong> :)
[07:23] <dr_willis> 3:22 here and i got another 3+ hrs of work...
[07:23] <WotWhere> dr_willis : dont have network access... have downloaded drivers for graphics will transfer to USB.. thanx
[07:25] <backyards01> what connector or card do i need to hook up a cisco 2600 to  WAN coming from a time warner cable modem with a RJ-45....   just got one to play around with...  ?
[07:26] <dr_willis> rj45 - isent that a normal network cable? or am my  getting my #'s wrong
[07:26] <Marzata> Silversong: how will it take you to pay back 90 K USD loans?
[07:27] <Marzata> Silversong: how long I meant ...
[07:30] <onceuponatime2> ll
[07:30] <wabbira> yay! it's working.
[07:30] <wabbira> thanks!
[07:32] <krababbel> backyards01: what comes out of the modem?