[02:26] <flocculant> infinity: sorry bud, but can we have a release schedule soonish?
[02:28] <tsimonq2> Pretty please? :)
[02:28] <flocculant> well
[02:29] <flocculant> not That concerned - but tsimonq2 will be, but scared to ask ...
[02:29] <tsimonq2> :P
[02:30]  * flocculant does the wandering thing letting akxwi-dave do the caring
[02:33] <valorie> tsimonq2 afraid to ask something?
[02:33] <valorie> impossibru
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[02:36] <tsimonq2> You just asked and I thought I might just hop on the bandwagon. No urgency. :P
[02:38] <tsimonq2> So valorie is right. XD
[03:06] <flocculant> or tsimonq2 is not
[03:06] <flocculant> *shrug*
[03:06] <tsimonq2> :)
[03:07] <flocculant> ;)
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[02:23] <jamesh> robert_ancell_: I'm not sure if you'll run into it yourself, but snapd-glib really doesn't like running in an app linked to libjson-c due to symbol conflicts with libjson-glib
[02:24] <robert_ancell> jamesh, oh really?
[02:25] <robert_ancell> Do you know which symbols?
[02:25] <jamesh> robert_ancell_: if you ever run into weird errors where json_object_get_type() is returning something it couldn't possibly be, check if the right one is being called
[02:27] <jamesh> in snapd-glib, I was hitting a line "if (json_node_get_value_type (node) != JSON_TYPE_OBJECT) {" where get_value_type() was returning the GType for JsonObject, but JSON_TYPE_OBJECT was returning 0
[02:28] <jamesh> and adding some debug prints caused the app to crash (since the two json_object_get_type functions take different arguments)
[02:29] <jamesh> I don't think there is anything you can realistically do about it though.
[02:38] <robert_ancell> jamesh, is this because snapd-glib is linking to one version and the app using snapd-glib is linking to another?
[02:38] <jamesh> robert_ancell: yeah.  The old version of Pulse Audio in xenial was linking to libjson-c
[02:39] <robert_ancell> oh, libjson-c and libjson-glib. I missed  that.
[02:39] <jamesh> so when it dlopened a module linking to libsnapd-glib, the libjson-c symbols took precedence
[02:39] <robert_ancell> Right, there's probably no solution if both libraries are using the same symbols :/
[02:39] <robert_ancell> Unless there's some linking flags to fix this.
[02:40] <robert_ancell> Is libjson-c deprecateD?
[02:40] <jamesh> robert_ancell: lucky for me, this had caused problems for other GNOME apps linking to libpulse, so they switched to an internal json parser library
[02:40] <jamesh> so I ended up backporting that
[02:40] <robert_ancell> nice.
[02:41] <jamesh> libjson-c isn't associated with GNOME or any other big project.  I think it still makes releases
[05:43] <vicky> jbicha: Okay.. I already filed a bug https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/issues/507
[05:43] <gitbot> GNOME issue 507 in gdm "gdm3 login screen is blank and does not show greeter" [2. Needs Information, Opened]
[07:00] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:54] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN
[09:17] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: I noticed that chromium's drm is a little broke. Is this known?
[09:17] <marcustomlinson> Widevine is detected here but I get a DRM_NO_KEY_SYSTEM error: https://bitmovin.com/demos/drm
[09:20] <marcustomlinson> oh it might be that I've downloaded the wrong version of widevine
[09:21] <marcustomlinson> do you know how to determine which version is for your chrome?
[09:30] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[09:31] <oSoMoN> I'd recommend downloading the chrome deb matching the version number of chromium, and extracting libwidevinecdm.so from there
[09:49] <marcustomlinson> Ok cool I’ll try that sometime today
[09:49] <marcustomlinson> thx
[10:04] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: I assume there are legal implications to us shipping widevine in our snap?
[10:07] <oSoMoN> yes, basically we can't do that
[14:13] <JanC> chromium can't download it itself?
[14:22] <oSoMoN> JanC, if you're referring to widevine, there's no built-in mechanism in chromium to download and enable it like there is in firefox
[18:22] <Laney> moin
[18:23] <Trevinho> hey Laaaney
[18:23] <Laney> yo Trevinho
[18:46] <oSoMoN> hey Laney, Trevinho
[18:46] <Trevinho> hey oSoMoN
[18:53] <Laney> o/ oSoMoN


[16:14] <MICROburst> is cloud-init intended to replace things like kickstart?
[16:53] <meena> MICROburst: depending on your work flow, you'd use kick-start to build your images, and then you'd use cloud-init to finalise it on boot
[19:15] <MICROburst> meena: build an image with RedHat's kickstart? - Odd perspective. Are there any good tutorials? I would like to PXE boot the machine and have a per machine config. What can I hand over to cloud-init? Some examples, I have seen seem to use grub instead of iPXE.
[20:18] <meena> MICROburst: packer → iso or pxe boot (https://www.packer.io/docs/provisioners) → kickstart for install → export the finished product as your VM Host image: https://www.packer.io/docs/builders / https://www.packer.io/docs/post-processors )
[20:19] <meena> MICROburst: so, are we talking about VMs or hardware, btw?
[21:55] <MICROburst> meena: bare metal as well as VMs. Currently iPXE and kickstart. No more kickstart due to migration to ubuntu.
[22:18] <meena> MICROburst: aah, yeah, that Debian seed thing is something else
[22:28] <meena> imagine kickstart invented by people after they had managed to rule
[22:28] <meena> flee the cult of chtulu