[11:08] <Nodax`> Hello
[11:09] <Nodax`> I installed budgie-indicator-applet via apt, but now I restarted my computer but my wifi icon is missing, and after removing budgie-indicator-applet and restarting it's still missing, though the "system tray" applet is active
[15:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:36] <fossfreedom> sebsebseb: /o
[16:37] <sebsebseb> oh someone here now fossfreedom hi
[16:38] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: and just as I have a budgie isseu to, well soething wondeirng how to do :d
[16:38] <fossfreedom> sure
[16:38] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: how to add new programs to the dock ?
[16:38] <sebsebseb> however budgie is looking impresisve yes, and I'll show this at an event next month
[16:38] <sebsebseb> as well
[16:38] <fossfreedom> start the app - right click the icon and choose "keep in dock"
[16:39] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: nope
[16:39] <sebsebseb> I am in virtualbox
[16:39] <sebsebseb> using maps as an example
[16:39] <sebsebseb> what where ?
[16:40] <sebsebseb> I don't see its icon p
[16:40] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: ok got it
[16:41] <sebsebseb> nice :)
[16:41] <fossfreedom> yay1
[16:41] <fossfreedom> yay!
[16:41] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: yes easy to use interface
[16:41] <sebsebseb> very impressive welcome screen
[16:41] <sebsebseb> and that right there
[16:41] <sebsebseb> is why I want to show it definetly
[16:41] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: doing an event aimed at general  public to try and get them into Linux
[16:41] <fossfreedom> cheers - nice to get some feedback.  much appreciated.
[16:42] <sebsebseb> your a main dev ?
[16:42] <fossfreedom> project lead
[16:42] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I had some issues with it in 16.10 on my phsyicall install here, but
[16:42] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: ok well then you'l be glad to know that I intend to now show it in virtualbox
[16:42] <sebsebseb> at a Linux Presentaiont Day event :d
[16:42] <sebsebseb> that's for something
[16:42] <sebsebseb> http://linux-presentation-day.org
[16:43] <fossfreedom> 17.04 is shaping up to be a nice release.  well worth a look
[16:43] <sebsebseb> yes it's beta 2 I am vm trying now
[16:43] <sebsebseb> of budgie
[16:43] <fossfreedom> cool
[16:43] <sebsebseb> I think the welcome scdrene all of that
[16:43] <sebsebseb> how it's done is awesome
[16:43] <sebsebseb> detailed great
[16:43] <sebsebseb> easy to use
[16:43] <sebsebseb> aimed at newbies
[16:44] <sebsebseb> and not many distros aactsauly have those, not even Ubuntu, which is a bit hmm, since its meant to be so user friendly, but other distros such as Mint and Mageia yes welcome screens
[16:44] <fossfreedom> already looking at 17.10 - just adding translation capabilities to the app so that it shows in your native language and locale
[16:44] <sebsebseb> are you main guy from solus budige as wel ?
[16:45] <fossfreedom> that would be ikey
[16:45] <sebsebseb> I mean it started off as a interfface for some other distro solus I belive?  I'll vm try solus next
[16:45] <sebsebseb> ah yes of course ikey
[16:45] <sebsebseb> yes I have read budige things here and there
[16:45] <sebsebseb> ok but main guy to bring it over and be in  charge of it as an ubuntu flavour, nice
[16:46] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: and I guess it's GTK 3 based really,  GNOME 3 t ools yeah
[16:46] <fossfreedom> correct
[16:46] <sebsebseb> never been that keen on anything else that used GTK, untill this :d
[16:46] <sebsebseb> XFCE nah, LXDE, nah, etc etc
[16:47] <sebsebseb> it  was alwasy GNOME
[16:47] <sebsebseb> or GNOME,  GNOME 3, and Mate  later to :d
[16:48] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: anyway  doing an event where will be showing differnet interfaces in Desktop Linux, and some mobile stuff to, some creative commons and rasspry pi as well,  aimed at general public,  would be ashame not to show budgie :d
[16:49] <fossfreedom> much appreciated.  more visibility is always welcome
[16:49] <sebsebseb> well it's easy to use
[16:49] <sebsebseb> nice log in screen etc
[16:49] <sebsebseb> user friendly.  ubuntu based as well
[16:49] <sebsebseb> yep could imagine a newbie, bang new to linux, using that
[16:49] <sebsebseb> and quite happily
[16:50] <sebsebseb> plus it's an offical flavour so can actusally use #ubuntu  unlike Mint :d   well will be offical falvour with 17.04
[16:51] <fossfreedom> with official status we have equal billing on great help sites such as Ask Ubuntu and Ubuntu Forums.  Very useful for new users.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> what you mean equal billing ?
[16:52] <fossfreedom> for unofficial ubuntu based distros, Ask Ubuntu will close questions.  From 17.04 Ubuntu Budgie based questions will be allowed.
[16:54] <sebsebseb> yeah indeed :)
[16:54] <sebsebseb> and can use the 1500 to 1700 or so people who ok mostly idle, but yeah in #ubuntu
[16:54] <sebsebseb> for help
[16:54] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I had a nice pm chata with somoene the other day,  who was in tehre with mint really
[16:54] <sebsebseb> not emailed her yet
[16:55] <sebsebseb> mint irc network is a bit small, but can be ok, from what i seen before
[16:55] <sebsebseb> better a channel with more more people if new really I guess such as #ubuntu
[16:55] <sebsebseb> much more peop;le
[16:55] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: did you do most of the ubuntu budgie welcome screen text, or is it same in solous ?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> now if only  actsaul ubuntu had one of those to :d
[16:56] <fossfreedom> Solus doesnt have a welcome screen.  This is our own application.
[16:56] <sebsebseb> oh
[16:56] <sebsebseb> interesting :)
[16:56] <sebsebseb> well it's a winner :)
[16:57] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I remember asking popey in perosn a few years ago,  why is that,  other distros such as Mageia has a welcome screen,  but ubuntu doens't
[16:57] <sebsebseb> and ubuntu is meant to be so much more user firnedly apparantly
[16:57] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: I'll be able to test the welcome screen out, on general public next month :d
[16:57] <sebsebseb> at an event as I was saying
[16:57] <fossfreedom> thanks
[16:59] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: did you do some of the text for that welcome screen?
[17:00] <fossfreedom> most of the welcome app is done by a team member call Niyasc
[17:00] <sebsebseb> oh
[17:00] <sebsebseb> from Canonical or ?
[17:01] <fossfreedom> no - a Ubuntu Budgie team member
[17:04] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: anyway going to    run Ubuntu 17.04 with unity 7 as the host os
[17:04] <sebsebseb> then show other things in virtualbox
[17:04] <sebsebseb> plus got other people there with computers doing diffenret interfaces etc
[17:04] <sebsebseb> plus I got mobile stuff to do etc  :)
[17:04] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: will be a reasoanablly small event, but should be good like last time :)
[17:05] <fossfreedom> good luck.  Sounds interesting.
[17:05] <sebsebseb> I think the budige welsocme screen pretty much nicely explains it all though to a newbie
[17:05] <sebsebseb> the kind of things should know
[17:06] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: so why the main lead to bring over to ubuntu ?
[17:06] <sebsebseb> :)
[17:07] <sebsebseb> oh yeah one other hting, uhmm gwibber
[17:07] <sebsebseb> a potential Irc killer?   peoplere were saying about that about two months ago on IRC.  why is budige on that with a bigger presence as well ?
[17:08] <fossfreedom> basically - I think its a great interface.  I wanted to know how difficult it was to bring to ubuntu. So thats how it started.  Lots of people liked the idea - "budgie-remix" was then born.
[17:08] <sebsebseb> why do you think its a great interface?
[17:09] <fossfreedom> gwibber - not sure that is maintained any more.  most people who use IRC use something like hexchat or similar
[17:09] <sebsebseb> not gwibber
[17:09] <sebsebseb> gitter even
[17:09] <sebsebseb> the chat thing for support
[17:09] <sebsebseb> I meant gitter
[17:10] <fossfreedom> basically it has a classic menu driven interface - but uses modern technologies.  It doesnt fork everything under the sun - makes the best use of existing technologies
[17:10] <sebsebseb> but the chat is on something else that isn't irc or mostly hmm
[17:11] <fossfreedom> gitter is own chosen development platform - gitter chat is very easy to use.  IRC tends to attract more technically able people only.
[17:11] <sebsebseb> or for now.  it's like a develoepr community.  sign in with a github or twitter account it said
[17:11] <sebsebseb> who not that techi on gitter ?
[17:12] <fossfreedom> alot of people on the community channel are normal standard users.
[17:13] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom: oh see a little typo on the welcome screen now
[19:23] <sebsebseb> fossfreedom:  doing solus now vm trying, but yes looks like ubuntu budige is still better :d
[19:23] <sebsebseb> better implementation of it etc
[19:23] <sebsebseb> about to install in vm though got a live up


[22:19] <iguanamin> Since I migrated out of Windoze I haven't had time to look for games - I'm still trying to figure out Quanta Plus as a Dreamweaver alternative
[22:19] <oinkoinkoink> Not really
[22:19] <Serraphyn> Spear, \!
[22:19] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: We don't know anything about what's available on the mandriva liveCD. I haven't touched one since it was called "Mandrake 7" If it has some sort of grub-install or the grub commandline, look into that
[22:19] <Spear> ty Serraphyn
[22:19] <Devrethman> you might be able to fix it.
[22:19] <matus> darael: problem is in the computer, any help...?
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> i think i dont have choice but to format every things
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> Stupid mandriva
[22:20] <oinkoinkoink> Im gonna loose all my stuff
[22:20] <Devrethman> Use the liveCD to back it up.
[22:20] <seanbrystone> using Ubuntu 9.10 is there any program that i could use that would automatically backup a folder/file on a blank DVD every hour/day? I know theres a ton of backup programs, but none i know backs up to cd/dvd
[22:20] <Devrethman> I've never seen a liveCD that doesn't have "mount" and "cp"
[22:20] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: and how do you plan on reformatting without a windows installation disk?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I will install only Mandriva
[22:21] <luist> hey is there any tool that will let me access vevo website? its only allowing us/ca
[22:21] <Spear> seanbrystone: why not use a thumb drive?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I dont know
[22:21] <iguanamin> is there a channel or forum that anyone recommends to get more suggestions on configuring my ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4600?
[22:21] <oinkoinkoink> I want to burn the damn cd of restoration of Windows 7
[22:21] <Darael> seanbrystone: If you can find a command-line cd-burning app, use cron and a script?  Not easy, not user-friendly, but very powerful indeed.
[22:21] <iguanamin> I've already tried ubuntuforums and linuxquestions - dud
[22:21] <matus> darael: network works, wired, but not on the computer, can not find it, or whatever...
[22:21] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: Do you seriously not have access to another computer or a friend who has one and can burn you a windows recovery CD or a ubuntu CD or... SOMETHING?
[22:21] <seanbrystone> Spear, hmmm good point
[22:22] <oinkoinkoink> nop seriously, i leave really far from the city
[22:22] <crazy2k_> What is the right way to install a version of some package which is only in Lucid? (I'm on Karmic Koala now)
[22:22] <Serraphyn> matus, do you have network card module loading?
[22:22] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: Or you could use that liveCD to create a bootable flashstick, which you could then use to create another liveCD.
[22:22] <seanbrystone> Darael, yeah, i know that route, but was hoping for a GUI, im not a scripter and not familar with CLI yet to be able to do something like that
[22:22] <seanbrystone> thanks though :)
[22:22] <Darael> matus: Your only other option is to download the package and all its dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com on another machine, copy them with a USB drive or similar, and "sudo dpkg -i" them
[22:22] <Spear> Devrethman: shipit? :P
[22:23] <Devrethman> oinkoinkoink: It'd be kind of a pain, and depending on how valuable the data you have is may or may not be worth it.
[22:23] <Darael> seanbrystone: I don't think anyone's written one with a GUI frontend that does backup to optical media, sorry.  I might be wrong, of course.
[22:23] <oinkoinkoink> Anyway. The Mandriva channel is dead. Nobody is answering at nothing
[22:23] <oinkoinkoink> Its really pathetic.
[22:24] <guntbert> Devrethman: its nice how you try to help oinkoinkoink - but that conversation is really cluttering the channel - and neither mandriva nor windows are on topic here :)
[22:24] <matus_> darael: what can be wrong?
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> ok ok guntbert
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> take it eazy
[22:24] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: you could make a bootable flash drive as instructed here: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd-on-usb-disk and after booting from the flash drive you could burn anotehr cd possibly
[22:24] <Darael> matus_: I'm afriad networking issues aren't really something I'm familiar with, sorry.
[22:24] <oinkoinkoink> Im gonna try
[22:25] <Spear> anyone know of any god command line afp clients?
[22:25] <matus_> darael: it says unknown host..
[22:25] <Spear> s/god/good
[22:25] <Devrethman> Spear: AFP as in Apple Filesharing?
[22:25] <Spear> yes Devrethman
[22:25] <Darael> matus_: You said, but I'm afraid I don't know how to fix your problem.
[22:25] <oinkoinkoink> I think im gonna download a Cd burner
[22:25] <teage> i am making a launcher like this "cd /pentest/spoofing/ADM" ...Unfortunately it tells me "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" , what am i doing wrong?
[22:25] <oinkoinkoink> Any good cd burner on KDE^
[22:25] <HammerHead66> Darael:man this thing is being harder than I rember
[22:26] <Spear> smb is failing for me
[22:26] <matus_> darael: what can be wrong? it says unknown host...
[22:26] <Supertanker> oinkoinkoink, k3b!
[22:26] <Devrethman> Spear: I remember looking into it once, and I don't think I found any, I ended up enabling windows filesharing on the mac and used mount.cifs
[22:26] <Darael> matus_: I just don't know, you'll need to ask the channel at large again.
[22:26] <oinkoinkoink> Tank you guys for helping me
[22:26] <Spear> Devrethman: howto on mount.cifs -- i cant make it work on 9.10
[22:26] <Supertanker> Spear, is smbfs installed?
[22:26] <Spear> yes Supertanker
[22:27] <Supertanker> Hmmm
[22:27] <Devrethman> Spear: You might also look into sshfs. It's what I use now.
[22:27] <matus_> darael: thanks man
[22:27] <Spear> Devrethman: its an AEBS
[22:27] <kaddi> oinkoinkoink: k3b
[22:28] <Spear> bed for me ill fix it tomorrow
[22:28] <Spear> nn all
[22:28] <darolu> !info
[22:29] <hellyeah_> hey
[22:29] <Happehwalrus> I was going to install ubuntu 10.04 alpha 2, but then the install failed. Everything is fine except Ubuntu 9.10 Software Center was deleted. Help?
[22:29] <hellyeah_> what is the channel for cairo-dock
[22:30] <luist> hey is there any tool that will let me access vevo website? its only allowing us/ca
[22:30] <hellyeah_> my cairo-dock didnt start
[22:30] <guntbert> !lucid | Happehwalrus
[22:30] <darolu> Happehwalrus: make sure your username is still in the sudoers list (you have admin powers)
[22:31] <pelandrit> i need to install an alternate version from usb, i tried things like unetbootin and an externall usb dvd without sucess, any idea?
[22:31] <darolu> !usb > pelandrit
[22:31] <bobbytek2> How come vim is the default editor and not emacs?
[22:31] <JULinuxUser> I'm having a zenity issue. I made an install.sh file and you can look at it here: http://pastebin.com/m185856f2 along with the error on line 42.
[22:32] <blakkheim> bobbytek2: because it's better :)
[22:32] <bobbytek2> How come emacs isn't installed?
[22:32] <darolu> bobbytek2: Ubuntu comes with nano... it doesn't come with either vim or emacs
[22:32] <jrib> bobbytek2: because vim is so much better.
[22:32] <mix22891> why i dsent get an unsowre?
[22:33] <bobbytek2> darolu: mine came with vim :)
[22:33] <guntbert> !patience | mix22891
[22:33] <darolu> blakkheim, jrib: although I do like Vi & Vim better too, I don't think we can say vim or emacs is better than the other, is a matter of taste, emacs have some very neat stuff too
[22:33] <darolu> bobbytek2: did you get the DVD?
[22:33] <jrib> bobbytek2: it just comes with vim-tiny, mainly because vi is a pretty standard unix utility
[22:33] <bobbytek2> vim-tiny? there are multiple vims?
[22:34] <jrib> darolu: yeah, I was just teasing bobbytek2
[22:34] <bobbytek2> didn't know that
[22:34] <ionut> hi guys.can anyone help me , how can i shrink my volume (i have just one volume) is 160 gbyte .
[22:34] <neezer> is there a size limit to certain types of multimedia files?
[22:34] <Darael> If we're discussing editors... ed FTW!  it's the standard unix editor!  It has only one error message!
[22:34] <jrib> bobbytek2: it's just a trimmed down vim.  If you want emacs, just install it :)
[22:34] <bobbytek2> I was just curious as to the rationale
[22:34] <jrib> neezer: not really, why?
[22:34] <JULinuxUser> This is more accurate. http://pastebin.com/m124d6861
[22:35] <Darael> ionut: Boot from a live CD and use GParted (system->administration->partition editor)
[22:35] <neezer> I have been using handbrake and experimenting with quality of mp4. my larger files wouldn't play on my ps3....something about unsupported format.
[22:35] <HammerHead66> is there anyone that can help me install flash player 10 for 64-bit linux?
[22:35] <neezer> when I re-rip at a lower quality (smaller size) I don't have the problem.
[22:35] <kumakuma> hi guys. i'm having problems with the newest stable version of ubuntu (9.10) not recognizing my onboard ethernet card. this being my wife's computer, i don't know how to tell what kind of ethernet card it is. can anybody tell me how to determine the type and install a driver to get it working? any help is appreciated.
[22:35] <kop_> vi is more like ubiquitous , that is being part of nearly all unix linux bsd distros since the Pleistocene era
[22:35] <ionut> Darael: isn't there another solution?
[22:35] <jrib> HammerHead66: go to adobe's site, download the tar.gz for 64bit, drop it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/, restart your browser
[22:35] <meowbuntu> hi i cant read access a site properly says i need firefox but thats what i'm using can anypone help.. what plugin do i need to view it its kinda urgent. http://imagebin.org/84706
[22:35] <Devrethman> kumakuma: lspci
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: Partition editing should be done while the computer's off, to minimse the risk of corruption.
[22:36] <mix22891> any1.i can't type in my languge
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: I mean, while the disk is not in use.
[22:36] <Darael> ionut: Hence, a live CD is the best option.
[22:37] <jrib> meowbuntu: try "user agent switcher" but it's probably because they want to install some plugin that they haven't developed for linux so it may not work anyway
[22:37] <JULinuxUser> http://pastebin.com/m3768d08c
[22:37] <Darael> mix22891: what's your language?
[22:37] <mix22891> hebrew
[22:37] <JULinuxUser> Can some one look at that link and tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[22:37] <ionut> Darael: so i have to run a live cd. then what ?
[22:37] <jrib> JULinuxUser: summarize your issue in your question
[22:37] <ionut> Darael: i have never did this befor
[22:37] <meowbuntu> !ati
[22:37] <kumakuma> okay. i'll look up 1spci and see if that works. thanks.
[22:38] <kop_> lspci | grep net
[22:38] <Devrethman> kumakuma: just run it in a termainal and look for network stuff
[22:38] <Devrethman> or use grep.
[22:38] <Darael> ionut: Once you're in a live CD, go to system->administration->partition editor and it should be reasonably self-explanatory.
[22:38] <kop_> kumakuma, a little more specific :D
[22:38] <JULinuxUser> jrib I think I did that already. I wrote a file called Finish_Install.sh and I've always been able to execute it before without a problem but now every time I launch it it crashes. If you read http://pastebin.com/m3768d08c you will see what I am talking about.
[22:38] <meowbuntu> jrib, is that a plugin or something
[22:38] <ionut> Darael: yes.i think i'll succed
[22:38] <jrib> meowbuntu: it's an extension...
[22:38] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however on this laptop it claims to have 6 output channels and 0 input channels, and on another laptop I have, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't understand why one laptop claims one configuration and the other a different config... Both laptops running ka
[22:38] <BlackDalek> rmic, but one was a fresh install and the other upgraded from ubuntu 8.04. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[22:38] <jolaren> How can I monitor my computer temperatures in ubuntu server? I ran acpi -v but it gives me output 0 processors of 0
[22:38] <ionut> Darael: tnx for the help !
[22:39] <kumakuma> scuse me. lspci --
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, on this page i document how to install Firefox under wine using winetricks perhaps it will work with that, good luck http://sites.google.com/site/lucidlynxdreams/how-tos/cbc-video-working-on-ubuntu
[22:39] <ionut> bye
[22:39] <Darael> ionut: No probs, happy to help, good luck!
[22:39] <HammerHead66> jrib: tried it didn't work
[22:39] <jrib> !sensors | jolaren
[22:39] <ionut> tnx,bye
[22:39] <teage> how do you create a launcher that will cd to a certain directory automatic?
[22:39] <kop_> kumakuma, lspci | grep net
[22:39] <jrib> HammerHead66: you likely downloaded the wrong plug-in
[22:40] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, dont need a wine install of firefox its a natve linux application
[22:40] <JULinuxUser> Am I in the wrong room to ask these questions?
[22:40] <JULinuxUser> #bash
[22:40] <kumakuma> nothing comes up when i grep net.
[22:40] <hitek88> Hello, I am trying to change sambas /var/www location to another location, but I keep getting permission denied? Can anyone help me out. Do i need to change different folder permissions?
[22:40] <jrib> JULinuxUser: yes
[22:40] <kop_> kumakuma, just copy and paste to the command line
[22:40] <HammerHead66> jrib: I got it from here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[22:40] <jrib> HammerHead66: that's not 64bit
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, aren't you having the Firefox issue with that site?  did i past to the wrong person?
[22:41] <jrib> HammerHead66: try "flash 10 64bit linux" in google
[22:41] <kumakuma> i typed the command in as "lspci | grep net" if that's what you mean. but nothing came up.
[22:41] <HammerHead66>  jrib: I got to it from this site http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
[22:41] <jrib> HammerHead66: why are you telling me different things?
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, it was you -- the error probably is "not yet available for your current operating system" nothing to do with Firefox really - in wine you'll "probably" be able to get that plugin
[22:42] <kumakuma> i'm on a different computer right now, because i can't get the internet to work on the other computer without the ethernet card.
[22:42] <meowbuntu> o i c
[22:42] <kumakuma> but i typed it in on that different computer.
[22:42] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, i only got a 40gig hdd atm so i'll pass thanks
[22:43] <hitek88> no help?
[22:43] <jrib> !helpme | hitek88
[22:43] <meowbuntu> !ask hitek88
[22:43] <Concretesledge> anyone know if i can install OSX
[22:43] <meowbuntu> !help | hitek88
[22:44] <jrib> Concretesledge: that's not really an ubuntu question
[22:44] <HammerHead66>  jrib: ok first I went to this site http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html witch lead me to this download load center see right under the first paragraph?
[22:44] <Concretesledge> jrib with UNETbootin?
[22:44] <kop_> kumakuma, dmesg | grep net | less   to see if any net driver is installed
[22:44] <meowbuntu> Concretesledge, find the #mac or #osx channels on irc. i dont know where they are
[22:44] <jrib> HammerHead66: that's not my question.    I asked why.  If you aren't sure where you got it, then please grab it now from the proper 64bit location
[22:45] <jrib> Concretesledge: still not about ubuntu...
[22:45] <darolu> Concretesledge: Techincally, yes you can install OSX, either your computer or on a VirtualMachine
[22:45] <Devrethman> Dpkg-reconfigure looks infinitely cooler if the red text it changed to green.
[22:45] <AegNuddel> I'm trying to install a package from a non-official source
[22:45] <AegNuddel> I keep getting this error:
[22:45] <darolu> HammerHead66: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:46] <AegNuddel> Malformed line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[22:46] <AegNuddel> What does it mean?
[22:46] <jrib> HammerHead66: anyway, once you do that, if it still doesn't work, close all instances of firefox (verify with ps -ef), then run firefox from a terminal, pastebin all terminal output.  In addition, pastebin the contents of about:plugins and the output of « ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/ » including the command you ran
[22:46] <Devrethman> Aegnudde1: That your sources.lst has a syntax error in it. Pastebin it and we can have a look.
[22:46] <V4mpire> thats a long sources list
[22:46] <kumakuma> i get " [    0.004207] Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls " then, on a newline, "[    1.796701] audit: initializing netlink socket  (disabled)"
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> AegNuddel, the error says there is a problem on line 50 of your sources.lst -- Devrethman finished my thought...
[22:47] <Devrethman> V4mpire: With the comments, the default one is about that long.
[22:47] <HammerHead66> jrib: I know your trying to help but it not working out your misunderstand what I am saying. I went to this site first http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html now look under the first para. I hit that link to download from this site http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ that's were I got the flash
[22:47] <V4mpire> oh never seen 1 that long tho might just be that i've only looked at it on other distro's
[22:48] <kumakuma> i've noticed there's no eth0 line in my /etc/network/interfaces file. would that have something to do with it?
[22:48] <darolu> HammerHead66: have you tried to install with "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[22:48] <Devrethman> V4mpire: yeah, ubuntus has tons of comments.
[22:48] <HammerHead66> yes it tries to install 9
[22:49] <Devrethman> V4mpire: Mine's 48 lines long, and I haven't changed it at all.
[22:49] <V4mpire> ahh i see
[22:49] <AegNuddel> can I just get my sources list somehow?
[22:49] <domo> anyone here have success with getting the intel 4500mhd (january 2010) vga card working with ubuntu? if not, should i compile + install www.intellinuxgraphics.org ?
[22:49] <Devrethman> you can (in a terminal) cat /etc/apt/sources.list and it will be there.
[22:49] <Devrethman> pastebin that, and we'll try to see what's up.
[22:50] <jrib> HammerHead66: ah, I see now.  You clicked the wrong link then.  That's why you didn't get the 64bit one
[22:50] <HammerHead66> darolu: yes it tries to install 9 it gave and error
[22:50] <jrib> HammerHead66: here: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[22:50] <darolu> HammerHead66: Give this link a try: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[22:52] <AegNuddel> trying to get browser to oad
[22:52] <AegNuddel> load
[22:53] <jrib> darolu: that link is horrible, please don't recommend it
[22:53] <darolu> HammerHead66: it's weird it tries to install version 9; I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and it came with version 10.
[22:53] <litorcino> Hi. Any help? I want to understand what does "new" do in c++. I thought it was like "malloc" in c. I don if this idea is correct.
[22:54] <jrib> litorcino: try #c++
[22:54] <GreenDance> Hi
[22:54] <GreenDance> Can I have several client PCs netboot onto an ubuntu server?
[22:54] <mauri> is there a way to start a disto (ie kubuntu) not from root but from a folder?.......
[22:55] <hermes> Hello, can't seem to find/use my wireless card, lspci | grep net only lists the gigabit ethernet controller
[22:55] <OerHeks> yes you can PXE boot GreenDance
[22:55] <AegNuddel> http://pastebin.ca/1795707
[22:55] <guntbert> !ltsp | GreenDance
[22:55] <FANDER> guys I want to get a laptop from Germany. What's the difference between the German layout and the US layout? Are the keys going to be different?
[22:55] <AegNuddel> pixie boots :P
[22:55] <FANDER>  I don't care about the key's label. I can even write on the keyboard without looking at it. I memorized it.
[22:55] <FANDER> I saw on a picture that the Y key is in a different place. When I choose the US layout from Ubuntu, is it going to be above the home row, or below it as in the German Layout?
[22:55] <FANDER> I want the keyboard to function just as a US keyboard.
[22:55] <FANDER> I don't care about the labels
[22:56] <blakkheim> !enter | FANDER
[22:56] <guntbert> FANDER: the layout determines what character a key generates
[22:56] <HammerHead66> darolu: weird
[22:56] <FANDER> guntbert: oh!
[22:56] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 "Frisby" sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however this laptop claims to have 6 output channels and 0 input channels, and on another laptop, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't get why the 2 laptops show a different config... Both laptops running karmic. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[22:57] <GreenDance> will LTSP work on normal PCs without HDDs?
[22:57] <FANDER> guntbert: so this is gonna be a big problem for me :(
[22:57] <OerHeks> FANDER, german layout > http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~tphillip/german-keyboard-a.jpg
[22:57] <OerHeks> you see
[22:57] <guntbert> FANDER: no, you can change the layout any time :-)
[22:57] <FANDER> OerHeks: yeah some keys are switched
[22:58] <FANDER> guntbert: ?!
[22:58] <darolu> FANDER: don't worry, it doesn't matter the keyboard labels,
[22:59] <guntbert> FANDER: system/preferences/keyboard selects the layout you want to use - you can even switch "on the fly"
[22:59] <FANDER> guntbert: on the fly? how?
[22:59] <plitter> how do i check the configurations on my kernel?
[22:59] <guntbert> FANDER: there is an applet for the panel
[23:00] <shashank> Hi!
[23:00] <FANDER> darolu: but I guess it will only work inside ubuntu right? i.e if I'm not in Ubuntu, like in DOS, the keyboard layout will be the German one.
[23:00] <shashank> I needed help in installing wine.
[23:00] <BlackDalek> who is Guest_82339 and why are they repeating my question?
[23:00] <Simon1245> Hello guys I need a bit help
[23:00] <darolu> FANDER: You can set it too on any terminal, you would have to do it again on a different OS though, ie. if you use windows
[23:00] <shashank> Hello Simon, what help do you need?
[23:00] <FANDER> guntbert: so I can use it just as the US one. The key's position will be the same for me
[23:01] <Simon1245> shashank, My sound isn't working on Ubuntu
[23:01] <FANDER> guntbert: for example, the Y key will be above the home row right?
[23:01] <j-3-r-g_> hey anyone familiar with java compiler warnings
[23:01] <FANDER> j-3-r-g_: ##java
[23:01] <shashank> I am not sure I will succeed, but I will try to help you. What computer do you have?
[23:01] <j-3-r-g_> I can't seem to join the java channel
[23:01] <darolu> FANDER: don't mind the labels, what y ou need to know is how many keys the keyboard has
[23:01] <FANDER> j-3-r-g_: plz change your name, it's difficult to write!
[23:02] <Simon1245> shashank, Laptop
[23:02] <shashank> Simon1245, can you tell me the model number?
[23:02] <guntbert> FANDER: yes - it will be ok - you can try to switch layouts now :-)  (layouts are about how the keystroke gets interpreted)
[23:02] <darolu> FANDER: If you type english only, you have nothing to worry about.
[23:02] <FANDER> darolu: I'm gonna get this laptop: http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/lenovo+g550+led+backlight+dual+core
[23:02] <Simon1245> shashank, Sure, Fujitsu Siemens amilo la 1703
[23:03] <AegNuddel> I did pastebin
[23:03] <hermes> Hey guys, my laptop's wireless adapter seems to be invisible. "lspci -v | grep less" returns nothing, can anyone shed light on this?
[23:03] <FANDER> j3rg: go to ##irc and they'll tell you why you can't
[23:04] <FANDER> j3rg: sorry #irc
[23:04] <j3rg> thanx FANDER
[23:04] <shashank> Does it have speakers? Have you tried using earphones?
[23:04] <hermes> Am I asking my question wrong or something?
[23:05] <maggs> hey, i was just wondering if anyone knew why ubuntu's "usb startup creator" thingymajig won't let me burn the mini.iso to a usb stick?
[23:05] <shashank> Do you see the volume icon in your Ubuntu?
[23:05] <BlackDalek> I found how to get 6 output and 1 input channel on this laptop... the other laptop still claims I can only get 1 input channel and 0 output channels. The only profiles available in the hardware tab of sound preferences are "off" or "analogue stereo input"
[23:05] <guntbert> FANDER: what was that #irc about?
[23:05] <Simon1245> shashank, Yes, I can mute and all the stuff
[23:05] <Simon1245> shashank, But I can't hear the sound
[23:05] <FANDER> guntbert: he wanted to know why he can't join ##java
[23:06] <shashank> Simon1245, Ok but you can't hear the sound neither in your laptop speakers nor in your earphones correct?
[23:06] <Simon1245> shashank, My headphones are broken so I can't try it :(
[23:06] <shashank> Simon1245, oh ... ok
[23:06] <darolu> hermes: try to run lspci without searching for less only
[23:06] <guntbert> FANDER: yes, but #irc is invite only while ##java requires registration
[23:06] <lnmulti> BlackDalek: What sound card are you discussing here?
[23:06] <Simon1245> shashank, So, Any idea how to fix it?
[23:06] <FANDER> guntbert: invite only?! No I can joint it without invitation
[23:06] <darolu> guntbert: you can join #irc without invite, you need invite for #java; I just tried
[23:07] <hermes> darolu: not listed in lspci at all
[23:07] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, it is some generic "Frisby" 6ch USB sound card.
[23:07] <FANDER> guntbert: so after all, the keyboard keys is a software issue and not a hardware issue
[23:08] <guntbert> FANDER: yes, the keys are essentially the same - maybe a few more or less
[23:08] <Simon1245> shashank, Are you there?
[23:08] <Armageddon00> Hi, where does the pacakge emacs23-el place the elisp files?  I don't see them in /usr/share or /usr/local/share
[23:08] <shashank> Simon1245, do you have any other OS installed on your laptop?
[23:08] <da> I just downloaded AVG antivirus, how do I get it on my machine?
[23:08] <tvjudge> I judt got a new laptop with amd 64 processor. SHould I go for the 64 bit version of ubuntu studio?
[23:09] <Simon1245> shashank, Yes, Windows
[23:09] <shashank> So your speakers work in Windows, correct?
[23:09] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, it is some generic "Frisby" 6ch USB sound card.
[23:09] <shashank> Simon1245, So your speakers work in Windows, correct?
[23:09] <darolu> hermes: do you know the model of your wireless card?
[23:09] <Simon1245> shashank, Talk on the private chat you just opened
[23:09] <Simon1245> And yes they work
[23:10] <lnmulti> BlackDalek: can I see the card's line from lspci?
[23:10] <UhmHelpPlz> hi, I just updated to AWN3.9-rewrite and all of the launchers are gone.  There is a message about the taskmanager applet needing to be active but this is not on the applet list.  Can anyone help?
[23:10] <shashank> Simon1245, roger that
[23:10] <plitter> does someone know how to support the norwegian letters æ ø å in lynx?
[23:10] <plitter> does someone know how to support the norwegian letters æ ø å in lynx? the internet browser?
[23:10] <Drakonslayor> I want to get CS:S working on my computer and stuff... can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:10] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, ubuntu thinks it a "HP USB500 5.1 headset" - I will get the lspci...
[23:11] <maggs> hey, i was just wondering if anyone knew why ubuntu's "usb startup creator" thingymajig won't let me burn the mini.iso to a usb stick?
[23:11] <hermes> darolu: I shamefully have no idea, it's an asus eee pc 1201n, that's all I know
[23:11] <philien> Are ther any LAMP package in UBUNTU ?
[23:11] <BlackDalek> lnmulti, lsusb says "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset"
[23:12] <lnmulti> ok
[23:12] <kb010> http://digg.com/politics/Protect_online_rights_Comment_on_the_ACTA_before_2010_02_16  -- Proposed agreement could threaten all FOSS projects, including Ubuntu. Make your voice heard.
[23:12] <darolu> hermes: maybe is this one, try it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/sis162usb-AsusA4000
[23:13] <philien> Are there LAMP package in Ubuntu's
[23:13] <Flannel> kb010: Please don't post that here.  This channel is for support only.  You're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:13] <Flannel> !lamp | philien
[23:14] <Drakonslayor> Hey, new to linux, come from windows... i wanna get my CS:S working on it but i don't know where to start... can anyone point me in the right direction??
[23:14] <Flannel> maggs: USB Creator thing only works on liveCD images (casper images).  Mini/Alternate/Server use debian-installer to install.  There are other ways to get those on a USB though.
[23:14] <blakkheim> !appdb > Drakonslayor
[23:14] <jrib> !appdb | Drakonslayor
[23:14] <blakkheim> too slow
[23:15] <philien> Flannel: Thanks for the link
[23:15] <hermes> darolu: Sorry, what exactly do I do with that page?
[23:15] <maggs> thankyou Flannel, what ways would you suggest? or could you point me in the right direction?
[23:15] <HammerHead66> darolu: nice hack try
[23:15] <c4st13l> e ai pessoal
[23:15] <c4st13l> tem algum Br ai
[23:15] <c4st13l> ?
[23:16] <darolu> hermes: follow the instructions, they are intended for the command line
[23:16] <maggs> i've tried unetbootin, but that doesn't find my network card on my eee when it boots from the usb
[23:16] <BlackDalek> I have an external usb 5.1 "Frisby" sound card which ubuntu falsely identifies as "Storm HP-USB500 5.1 headset" - this doesn't bother me... however this laptop claims to have 6 output channels and 1 input channels, and on another laptop, it claims there is 1 input channel and no output channels... I don't get why the 2 laptops show a different config... Both laptops running karmic. Can someone explain the discrepancy?
[23:16] <Flannel> maggs: Yeah, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has a number of methods.  I'm having trouble finding the USB installer one
[23:16] <Flannel> !br | c4st13l
[23:16] <darolu> HammerHead66: what are you talking about?
[23:16] <c4st13l> #ubuntu-br
[23:16] <HammerHead66> lmao you know what I'm talking about
[23:16] <c4st13l> ai
[23:17] <HammerHead66> www.boundlesssurpremacy.com
[23:17] <HammerHead66> good try lol
[23:17] <AegNuddel> okay got it back to no problems with lines and just can't find package
[23:17] <darolu> HammerHead66: I honestly have no idea
[23:17] <Flannel> maggs: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html seems like it should work for you
[23:18] <HammerHead66> lmao ok
[23:18] <AegNuddel> by taking these out
[23:18] <AegNuddel> #
[23:18] <AegNuddel> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[23:18] <AegNuddel> #
[23:18] <AegNuddel> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/giftwrap/ppa/ubuntu karmic
[23:18] <FloodBot2> AegNuddel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:18] <Flannel> c4st13l: /join #ubuntu-br
[23:18] <maggs> cheers again Flannel, taking a look now, and will look at that second link too
[23:18] <AegNuddel> oh sorry
[23:20] <darolu> HammerHead66: the link I pasted is Ubuntu documentation, on a https:// domain, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
[23:20] <Devrethman> Is there any reason that TrueCrypt is not in any official package repos?
[23:20] <Saftpackl> has someone got a "focusrite saffire 6 usb" working?
[23:20] <AegNuddel> have been trying to get this experimental package
[23:20] <Devrethman> Cause it seems like it's a significant enough project to warrant being there.
[23:20] <abadabad00> I'm having a hard time getting google gadgets to work in ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. Can anyone help?
[23:20] <Flannel> Devrethman: Because the truecrypt license doesn't permit us to distribute it
[23:21] <Devrethman> Flannel: Ah. Okay.
[23:21] <Flannel> Devrethman: File complaints with the truecrypt people so we can :)
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> abadabad00, did you install google-gadgets-gtk from the repo?
[23:21] <meero> how to get from kubuntu netbook, to system settings?
[23:21] <AegNuddel> called giftwrap
[23:22] <Devrethman> Flannel: Getting it from them is no big deal, I was just wondering if there was some sort of conflict.
[23:22] <Flannel> Devrethman: It'd be really nice if we could package it though.  Make it a lot easier for everyone involved.  Make integration be possible too
[23:23] <meero> how to get from kubuntu netbook, to system settings ??
[23:23] <AegNuddel> well
[23:23] <al__> Hi   can newb ask basic ??? here?
[23:23] <AegNuddel> I might actually get this
[23:23] <Flannel> al__: Yep, that's what this channel is for.
[23:23] <meero> al__: no
[23:23] <Flannel> !conduct > meero
[23:23] <AegNuddel> if the packages will start downloading
[23:24] <meero> Flannel: just kidding  man
[23:24] <Flannel> meero: Don't.  Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.
[23:25] <al__> I am having problems with grub ver 1.97beta4 and startup manager,   I can not seem to get the changes I make with startup manager to take affect or change grub
[23:26] <FatherTyme> Getting "SystemError: installArchives() failed" when trying to install Nvidia drivers on Karmic...
[23:26] <FatherTyme> Has anyone experienced this?
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, from Hardware Drivers or are you using the installer from Nvidia site?
[23:27] <FatherTyme> ZykotickK9 - from both jockey-gtk and jockey-text.
[23:27] <al__> I have uninstalled and reinstalled startup manager with no change and I can not make backup disk (I get error)
[23:28] <AegNuddel> terminal had something in use.  Weird.
[23:29] <AegNuddel> yay installing
[23:29] <AegNuddel> took me a while
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, my initial google search suggests you might want to use an older version of driver, what version are you currently installing?
[23:29] <infomomo> hey guys what is a good usenet client for ubuntu ?
[23:29] <AegNuddel> BUT did it!
[23:30] <Simon1245> Could anyone help me?  My speaker isn't working :( Anyone know how to fix it?
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, what gfx card do you have "lspci | grep -i vga" to find out specifically
[23:32] <kotsu> plitter, you there?
[23:32] <FatherTyme> ZykotickK9, Geforce 9300 on a Mini-ITX board.
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> !tab > FatherTyme
[23:32] <plitter> kotsu: yes
[23:33] <joker> hey
[23:33] <al__>  I am having problems with grub ver 1.97beta4 and startup manager,   I can not seem to get the changes I make with startup manager to take affect or change grub
[23:33] <kotsu> Hey, tried the suggestion for framebuffer and couldn't boot into X.  I had to go into safe mode and back out the change.  Not sure what's wrong.  No biggie.. but still looking for a solution.
[23:33] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, The Nvidia binary drivers have previously always worked on this machine.  Just uninstalled 195 to go to 185 to see if I could resolve some screen tearing...
[23:33] <al__> I have uninstalled and reinstalled startup manager with no change and I can not make backup disk (I get error)
[23:33] <kuba_> hej
[23:33] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, But after I uninstalled 195 using jockey, I get that error when trying to install 185.
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, so they were working before the update?
[23:34] <joker> anyone know how to install netgear router on ubuntu?
[23:34] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, Yup.
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, ummm, that complicates matters -- i really don't know what to suggest...
[23:34] <kotsu> plitter.. and at first I put in the hex value (yeah I know)
[23:35] <kotsu> So I converted to decimal and still have the same issue.
[23:35] <FatherTyme> ZykoticK9, It appears to be an issue with jockey, but uninstalling/reinstalling that does not resolve the issue.
[23:35] <joker> anyone know how to install netgear router on ubuntu?
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, have you tried "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185" ?
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> FatherTyme, and thanks for correcting my nic - highlighting makes a big difference
[23:36] <greezmunkey> joker, you could use double sticky tape, that might work... :]
[23:36] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, did you try removing the original driver with no X running and installing the nvidia 195 driver from ppa
[23:37] <BlackDalek> Why do I get one set of sound profile configurations for a USB sound card on one laptop and a totally different set of sound profile options on a different laptop for the same USB hardware, yet both machines are running Ubuntu 9.10?
[23:37] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Original drivers are removed.  Trying a reinstall of 195 without X now...
[23:40] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, aight - looks like I'm back in business.
[23:40] <AegNuddel> ok cool article XD
[23:40] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Thanks for the tip.
[23:40] <joker> greezmunkey, i ment get it working
[23:40] <AegNuddel> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/customizing_your_screensaver
[23:40] <AegNuddel> neat neat neat
[23:41] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, unfortunately most tutorial neglet to mention this important fact.
[23:41] <greezmunkey> joker, I was foolin' what's not working - even though this isn't a ubuntu question
[23:42] <xfact> hello
[23:42] <al__> anyone free to help me?
[23:44] <frank007> hello - is ther anyone who can help me setup my wireless network on ubuntu 9.10?
[23:44] <FatherTyme> BluesKaj, Well, jockey has always worked for me before.  But it appears that something is wrong with it with the 33 kernel.
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> al_, with Karmic i don't think Startup Manager can control Grub or GDM for that matter.
[23:44] <joker> it kinda is an ubuntu question... I cant use the cd that came with it cause my cdrom is broken for some reason. Even if I could, I don't think it will work. How can I install it to work jst as a wired router at least...?
[23:45] <al__> OK how do I change defaults in grub then?
[23:45] <blag> my laptop just booted and it the keyboard and pointing stick dont work.  before i reboot, id like to gather information for a bug report.  what commands should i run?
[23:45] <xfact> I have just install 'tor proxy' on my PC, but after installing every time on google search it saying "We're sorry...but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. ", then after feeling a ceptcha it allowing to search at google, is that normal?
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > al_
[23:45] <BluesKaj> FatherTyme, I seldom use a assist app to install drivers , gone thru too much grief to rely on them :)
[23:45] <greezmunkey> joker, do you know its IP address?
[23:45] <al__> 1.97beta4
[23:45] <joker> nope. It doesnt even turn on even though its all pluged in...
[23:45] <ZykoticK9> al_, 1.97 = grub2
[23:46] <timmarshall> omg ubuntu could be at risk :O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrM73a_SUZI&feature=sub
[23:46] <xfact> What actually 'tor project' proxy does, why google preventing my access to search on first time?
[23:46] <al__> not getting private message using xchat
[23:46] <xfact> Anybody knows about 'TOR project'?
[23:46] <bobbytek2> xfact: I live in TORonto
[23:46] <BHoward> What do you need to know about TOR?
[23:47] <Flannel> timmarshall: This channel is not the place for that.  #ubuntu-offtopic is.
[23:47] <greezmunkey> joker, that's it then, no help here... sorry
[23:47] <zcat[1]> xfact:  you're sharing exit nodes with many other users, some of which may be running queries google finds suspicious (eg using tor to anonymously search for web exploits)
[23:47] <al__> ok I guess it is grub2 then
[23:47] <darolu> !grub2 |al__
[23:47] <joker> alright then... thanks.
[23:47] <BluesKaj> frank007, which wifi card ?
[23:47] <reisio> install image smaller than 650MB?
[23:47] <timmarshall> well it could be drasticly affect im usin my right to free speach to warm people
[23:47] <fez> al__: your best bet with grub2 is: sudo apt-get purge grub2 && sudo apt-get install grub
[23:48] <xfact> zcat[1], well my main question is , that's not unsafe for my computer right?
[23:48] <Flannel> timmarshall: No, this channel is for support only.  Please don't be offtopic here.
[23:48] <jp--> hi guys. alsamixer only shows me hdmi audio controls not rca, how can I fix this? I'm only using audio on rca, so I need to increase the volume of these output but alsamixer only shows the hdmi audio controllers... any ideas?
[23:48] <xfact> People uses TOR for being safe from network attacks
[23:48] <frank007> BluesKaj - its intel pro/wireless 2200 bg network
[23:48] <andresmh> is it just me or the Add/Remove Applications app is gone?
[23:48] <al__> oh man i was afraid of this.. I am new and do not know sudo,, will have to research
[23:48] <frank007> on sony vaio
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> andresmh, renamed to Ubuntu Software Center
[23:48] <darolu> al__: read this thread, it helps a lot: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[23:48] <al__> Thanks guys
[23:49] <zcat[1]> people use tor for lots of things
[23:49] <reisio> is there an install image for 9.10 that's smaller than 650MB?
[23:49] <Flannel> reisio: server ISO or minimal ISO
[23:49] <andresmh> ZykoticK9, ah, but it's so different. There is no way of organizing them by type, is it?
[23:49] <reisio> Flannel: I don't see a "minimal" anywhere
[23:50] <Flannel> reisio: It's 8MB, you download all the packages during the install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:50] <xfact> Anybody can tell me the process of TOR  project is safe to use?
[23:50] <andresmh> ZykoticK9, organizing the installed apps by type
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> andresmh, i have no idea -- i'm still using apt-get ;)
[23:50] <Lostinspace_46> Where can I download apt_secure? I have googled and checked forums, and I just can't find it.
[23:50] <reisio> Flannel: hahah, thanks
[23:50] <BluesKaj> frank007, have you tried connecting with network manager...I have to ask
[23:50] <xfact> I do not want to ruin or insecure my privacy or network
[23:50] <zcat[1]> xfact:  yes, it's not your computer that will be generating suspicious queries, it will be anotuer tor user. But if you're the next person using that exit node google will block all searches until you answer the captcha
[23:50] <reisio> Flannel: thanks
[23:51] <fez> al__: see http://brettshaffer.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/
[23:51] <BlackDalek> I found the answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349681 - all I needed to do was reboot the laptop and all the sound channel profile options came up in sound preferences like they should have in the first place...
[23:51] <frank007> yeah i did but nothing - i shld also tell u i have just installed ubuntu and am feeling my way around so I know very little abt its workings
[23:51] <BHoward> @xfact Tor is safe. the only downside of it is the speed
[23:51] <Mark_in_Hollywoo> I need some help compiling a driver for LM-sensors. It works with AMD K10
[23:52] <Flannel> reisio: No problem
[23:52] <xfact> BHoward, yea, thats right my firefox is running slower, I don't know what will happen with my youtube video speed...
[23:53] <AegNuddel> Cool!  It works!!
[23:55] <BluesKaj> frank007,  I use wicd , which more configurable and dependable , you can install itfrom yor package manager
[23:56] <Mark_in_Hollywoo> I have a 4 core cpu - AMD, LM-sensors won't work with it until I compile the drivers for it. I don't know how to compile. Any one know Lm-sensors?
[23:56] <frank007> where do i find package manager?
[23:57] <jrib> !synaptic | frank007
[23:57] <AegNuddel> I know
[23:58] <frank007> ok - i'll try it
[23:58] <Lostinspace_46> Where can I download apt_secure? I have googled and checked forums, and I just can't find it.
[23:59] <meowbuntu> at is up wine messages says the latest is not installed on my computer. but i got the latest from the repos. what is going on
[23:59] <AegNuddel> it was a pointless girly thing to make a snowflake screensaver.  I could also do hearts, flowers, princess crowns
[23:59] <Flannel> Lostinspace_46: What is apt_secure?
[23:59] <AegNuddel> but snowflakes was hood enough for now
[23:59] <AegNuddel> good


[11:21] <arand> Does a "non-free" Debian package automatically correspond to multiverse? In my case a package which is non-free due to missing "original source" for images and music?
[12:09] <alkisg> I'm writing a script which launches Xephyr, then waits half a second for it to initialize, and then runs `DISPLAY=:2 myapp` inside it. Is there any way to tell Xephyr to launch that instead, so that I don't have an arbitrary delay in my script?
[12:13] <Ampelbein> alkisg: You might be better off asking in #ubuntu for user support.
[12:14] <alkisg> Ampelbein: hmm I'm not sure that's an appropriate channel for programming questions... there was another one about ubuntu-programming (not the -devel one of course) but I don't remember its name... OK, I'll try asking in #ubuntu too, thank you
[13:44] <tumbleweed> arand: yes
[14:07] <arand> tumbleweed: Ok, thanks, seems like requestsync doesn't set that automatically...
[14:22] <tumbleweed> arand: no, probably not, please file a bug :)


[09:19] <XaT> hi there :)
[09:19] <XaT> need help about preseed auto install, is this the right channel ?  ;D
[13:32] <XaT> if somone can help me https://askubuntu.com/questions/1238696/preseed-autoinstall-does-not-work-on-20-04 about preseed installation
[13:32] <XaT> it would be a pleasure :)
[13:40] <CarlFK> XaT: do you know about the new yaml autoinstall file ?
[13:41] <XaT> talking about desktop here
[13:41] <XaT> is still preseed available for 20.04 ? i though so
[13:45] <CarlFK> I'm not sure.  (I am a user, not a dev, just telling you what I have heard because I have similar problem, only I haven't needed to solve it, yet.)
[13:46] <XaT> Well the 20.04 documentation talk about apb and i ask on askubuntu, that's a start
[13:47] <XaT> i'll check if foreman have something for 20.04
[13:57] <XaT> well i use cubic, that's may be the problem
[14:01] <XaT> nope same thing with official ISO
[14:01] <XaT> may be virtualbox related ? but i think i got the wront boot option
[14:02] <XaT> i use : auto url=... severity critical <initrd> quiet ----
[14:02] <XaT> severity=critical


[01:44] <sylvio> hi, i'd like to see the source of ubuntu and i don't know where and how, i'm student of computer science and i'd like to know depeer this OS
[01:46] <sylvio> someone can help me?
[01:47] <kklimonda> sylvio: you can download sources of every ubuntu package using command ``apt-get source <package>''
[01:47] <kklimonda> as long as you have deb-src entries in sources.list
[01:48] <sylvio> OK but where can I know the names of the packages?
[01:50] <kklimonda> sylvio: there are many ways - for example package's name is in Package column of synaptic. You can also check http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <sylvio> thanks very much! I'm newbie in linux and I don't know nothing yet. I will study more about this OS and the community. You were very patience thanks :)
[18:00] <tommychurch> hi
[18:02] <tommychurch> <-----seeking life in this room
[19:49] <CyberScript32> oia galera estou pensando em migrar p unbutu
[19:49] <CyberScript32> e queria alguma informção dele
[19:49] <CyberScript32> se posivel


[21:06] <newz2000> Hi, can someone tell me if there is any work going on to document the upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04?
[21:29] <mdke> newz2000: not sure
[21:30] <newz2000> mdke: is there a normal procedure people follow to avoid duplicating work?
[21:32] <mdke> newz2000: discussion on the mailing list would be the best way I think, and coordinating with the release team who might also work on such documents
[21:33] <newz2000> ok, thanks


[14:44] <bluesabre> catfish 0.6 released, mr_pouit or micahg, want to help me get it into the raring repos?  :-)
[15:26] <len-1304> bluesabre,  Yahoo!
[15:27] <ochosi> Bing!
[15:31] <bluesabre> dork
[15:31] <bluesabre> :D
[15:33] <ochosi> heh
[23:27] <len-dt> Wow, Xubuntu has changed a lot. The last 13.04 I downloaded plus zsync against that was at 40%... a 60% difference


[01:26] <deleve> good night all, can anyone explin to me how can i identify my router's ip using xubuntu? Cau i have the router but need the ip tp configure.
[01:30] <ignore_me> deleve: Internal or external address?
[01:32] <Unit193> The nm-tool command in terminal should tell you the gateway IP, which should be your router.
[01:44] <deleve> ignore_me, internal i think
[02:58] <FoShizz_> Anyone about?
[03:40] <clear`> hey guys, trying to do dual boot again, i have win7 installed
[03:40] <holstein> !dualboot | clear`
[03:40] <clear`> i am at the installation type with xubuntu, the windows partition is not showing
[03:41] <clear`> i see, /dev/sda and free space under that
[03:41] <clear`> not the ntfs partition
[03:41] <holstein> clear`: i would manually add partitions
[03:41] <holstein> i would do it from a gparted live CD
[03:42] <clear`> do boot xubuntu live?
[03:42] <clear`> or do that through the installation?
[03:42] <clear`> its odd that its not showing the 2 partitions (windows and the extra one i made in windows)
[03:42] <holstein> clear`: i would do it literally where ever it works
[03:43] <holstein> clear`: what extra one?
[03:43] <clear`> maybe i should double check that it made the extra partition
[03:44] <clear`> when i installed windows i went to device manager, and created another partition from the free space
[03:44] <clear`> did 100gb partition
[03:44] <holstein> for what?
[03:44] <clear`> for xubuntu
[03:44] <holstein> clear`: i would blow that out.. go in from gparted and manually make a swap and ext4
[03:45] <holstein> clear`: i wouldnt use linux to make the ntfs partition for windows either
[03:46] <clear`> windows is already installed, so that partition is already made
[03:46] <holstein> sure.. but you used windows to create a partition for the linux install
[03:46] <holstein> i wouldnt do that, nor the other way around..
[03:46] <clear`> well, just created extra space
[03:46] <holstein> clear`: right.. *dont* do that
[03:46] <clear`> k
[03:47] <holstein> clear`: clear that out.. leave it blank.. check it.. then, use *whatever* will see it. a live CD, and create manaually what you need/want
[03:48] <clear`> ok so i deleted that, i only have the windows partition now
[03:48] <clear`> will boot into live
[03:52] <clear`> !gparted
[04:09] <goddard> hey
[05:02] <Mortvert> how can i make xubuntu not start apps that were running before shutdown?
[05:09] <goddard> Mortvert: like what?
[05:09] <goddard> anyone know if its possible to use Unity's sound manager in Xfce
[05:09] <Mortvert> Firefox/hexchat :v
[07:14] <xubuntu493> anybody here?
[07:17] <TheSheep> !hi | xubuntu493
[07:17] <xubuntu493> I'mk from Argentina. There's any IRC channel in Spanish?
[07:17] <ochosi> !es
[07:45] <n2diy> ! update
[07:45] <n2diy> ! update manager
[08:47] <Noskcaj> could someone explain what the drag and drop threshold option does in mouse settings?
[08:49] <TheSheep> Noskcaj: how far you need to move your cursor away from the initial position for it to be considered a drag and not a click
[08:49] <TheSheep> Noskcaj: because you always move your cursor a little when clicking
[08:50] <Noskcaj> TheSheep, ok, ty. and how does the double click distance setting work?
[08:51] <TheSheep> no idea, but I would guess the same
[08:51] <TheSheep> how near the two clicks need to be to each other to be considered a double click
[10:27] <Starcraftmazter> hey guys, my xorg seems to hang on startup. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/famTe4js
[10:40] <Starcraftmazter> this may also prove useful http://pastebin.com/xY0RxUr0
[17:43] <d1mAs1q> hello, what driver is better for amd trinity?
[21:26] <Arpad2> the camera is not working , is there any way to fix this?
[21:26] <holstein> what camera?
[21:27] <Arpad2> built in the laptop
[21:27] <holstein> Arpad2: i the hardware working?
[21:27] <Arpad2> well its a 2 month old laptop
[21:27] <holstein> Arpad2: sure.. is the hardware functional?
[21:27] <Arpad2> and only reciently to try it with Cheese
[21:27] <Arpad2> but us not recognised
[21:28] <holstein> Arpad2: if the hardware is broken, or disabled in the bios, you will *never* get it "fixed" with software
[21:28] <Arpad2> so I suppose it should work, though I never experienced it working
[21:28] <holstein> Arpad2: might want to consider that then.. if you hit a wall with other options.. maybe poke around in the bios, and try other live CD's
[21:29] <holstein> Arpad2: open a temrinal, and run "lspci" and "lsusb" ..see if you see the hardware listed.. use pastebin if you need help interpretting that data
[21:29] <Arpad2> i am sure I need help
[21:30] <Arpad2> I am illiterate in these things
[21:30] <Arpad2> thank you
[21:32] <Arpad2> I think it is not listed here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5762810/
[21:33] <holstein> nothing in lsusb?
[21:35] <Arpad2> I don't think so http://paste.ubuntu.com/5762818/
[21:37] <holstein> Arpad2: thinkpad?
[21:37] <holstein> E430?
[21:37] <Arpad2> you mean the type of the laptop?
[21:38] <holstein> yes
[21:38] <Arpad2> it is Clevo p170em
[21:39] <Arpad2> nor the multicolor keyboard backlight is functioning
[21:39] <holstein> i would probably just try other live CD's.. see what, if anything "just works" out of the box.. i would want to use whatever operating system the vendor provides support for officially to test the hardare is functioning properly
[21:40] <Arpad2> and can I have any use of Windows drivers on linux, as they were supplied
[21:40] <Arpad2> ?
[21:41] <Arpad2> with wine or playonlinux ?
[21:41] <holstein> Arpad2: nothing about linux or ubuntu or xubuntu is preventing *anyone*, such as the creator of that laptop to provide drivers for you
[21:41] <holstein> Arpad2: i wouldnt expect to use linux drivers in windows.. so i dont think the other way around will work
[21:41] <holstein> but, im not saying its not supported. im saying, you dont know if the hardware works..
[21:42] <Arpad2> thats true
[21:42] <Arpad2> I  deleted the default Win8 too hastily
[21:42] <holstein> if you are wanting out of the box linux support, consider purchasing something that comes with it.. such as system76
[21:43] <holstein> otherwise, for me, i would troubleshoot and search til i get it working
[21:43] <Arpad2> ok
[21:44] <holstein> Arpad2: i have a dual GPU like that
[22:09] <jdale> hi all
[23:54] <JoeBlacken> Hi, is there a way that I can set the startup attributes for individual windows or applications, i.e., setting them to start with certain position and size or maximized
[23:56] <brainwash> JoeBlacken: you are looking for devilspie or wmctrl
[23:57] <brainwash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[23:58] <JoeBlacken> brainwash, yes, but does this work with XFCE?
[23:58] <brainwash> sure, it does work
[23:58] <JoeBlacken> brainwash, thank you a lot, I will try that
[23:59] <heoyea> gdevilspie for GUI frontend