[00:00] <daftykins> grrrrraham: less from the standpoint of ubuntu or Linux in general, more my bias against them from back in the day they were new :)
[00:00] <grrrrraham> haha k... yeah well that's what i was thinking.. old/crappy hardware
[00:00] <daftykins> grrrrraham: do any of these hard disks operate at SATA levels higher than the board can? e.g. SATA 6 or 3Gb/sec drives on a potentially SATA 1.5Gb board?
[00:01] <grrrrraham> yes.. i tried using the force 1.5 command
[00:01] <grrrrraham> doesn't seem to help
[00:01] <grrrrraham> i tried disabling ncq but the mobo doesn't support it anyway
[00:01] <Beldar> daftykins, mmmmm biased opinions, mah favorite. ;)
[00:01] <daftykins> looks like the board's SATA 3Gb actually
[00:01] <grrrrraham> oh ok
[00:01] <daftykins> Beldar: 8D
[00:01] <grrrrraham> well i tried forcing it to 1.5 anwway :)
[00:01] <daftykins> grrrrraham: i'd have probably tried to do so from the jumpers you may be able to apply to the disks, if applicable
[00:02] <grrrrraham> yeah there are jumper options.. i just don't have any jumpers handy
[00:03] <grrrrraham> would jumpers maybe make a difference even if the 1.5 speed is being confirmed by kernel?
[00:03] <grrrrraham> using the boot flags
[00:03] <daftykins> not sure, i just thought it might be an extra variable
[00:04] <grrrrraham> i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217920
[00:04] <grrrrraham> hahha ubottu nice timing
[00:04] <grrrrraham> #40 has some flags i haven't tried
[00:05] <grrrrraham> hpet=disable and
[00:05] <grrrrraham> and all_generic_ide
[00:05] <daftykins> hpet=disable is what i just found on a somewhat vaguely related thread :)
[00:07] <daftykins> grrrrraham: sounds like hpet=disable is candidate #1 for a test-run!
[00:07] <grrrrraham> i'm remote right now... is hpet=disable a fairly safe thing to do?
[00:07] <grrrrraham> don't want the computer to not boot at all when i'm not there
[00:08] <daftykins> i've zero experience with it personally, maybe you could add a custom boot menu entry and guide your gran to one-time booting it
[00:08] <grrrrraham> good call!
[00:08]  * Beldar looks for the tin fedora
[00:08] <daftykins> sorry, aunt
[00:08] <Beldar> tinfoil that is
[00:10] <grrrrraham> all good
[00:10] <grrrrraham> thanks a lot guys
[00:11] <AphisOne> If I'm using gsettings, do I still use `dconf update` to set them as defaults?
[00:11] <Reptilia> It seems that fglrx is not supported for my graphics card, after the reboot the overall performance got even worse, with more lag, it was sluggish, and the resolution was lowered. What should i do?
[00:12] <Reptilia> It seems that the drivers are making everything sluggish, which drivers should i install? I have AMD Mobility Radeon X600
[00:13] <Reptilia> ATI*
[00:14] <daftykins> Reptilia: when you say 'after the reboot' , what change did that reboot signify?
[00:14] <Reptilia> daftykins:Excuse me, don't understand the question
[00:15] <daftykins> Reptilia: had you installed fglrx via some method at that point?
[00:15] <daftykins> it sounds like you might've booted in as VESA support only
[00:15] <Reptilia> I've installed fglrx, rebooted, and i explained what everything was like
[00:16] <Reptilia> daftykins:What "VESA" is?
[00:16] <Reptilia> :$
[00:16] <Beldar> Reptilia, If you come here for help, be careful in reacting to questions with I have done my work.
[00:17] <daftykins> Reptilia: a very basic driver, with no acceleration ultimately.
[00:17] <Reptilia> Beldar:What was wrong in my reaction to the question?
[00:18] <jeff__> molololololo j'me sent pas du tout paumé
[00:18] <daftykins> Reptilia: X600 definitely sounds like one of the unsupported devices, i suspect you are stuck using the radeon driver only, for that one
[00:18] <Reptilia> I don't know how to be more descriptive, my knowledge is limited...
[00:18] <Beldar> Reptilia, Just my comment, and your reflection. ;)
[00:19] <Reptilia> Beldar:Oh, i got what your comment was about, you're right :)
[00:20] <daftykins> Reptilia: are you on that computer right now? is it in this lower resolution state?
[00:21] <Reptilia> daftykins:Damn. But what bugs me is that i've had excellent performance with this laptop, using 13.10. After installing 14.04, everything changed.
[00:21] <Reptilia> daftykins:Yes, i am on the laptop now. I've removed fglrx, rebooted, and now the resolution is how it used to be.
[00:21] <daftykins> Reptilia: it might be time to consider a different distribution
[00:22] <daftykins> Reptilia: ok please run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then if that succeeds "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:22] <daftykins> ctrl+alt+T to open a terminal
[00:22] <Reptilia> Sure, just a moment
[00:23] <daftykins> Reptilia: what's the CPU in this thing by the way? must be pretty old :)
[00:23] <Reptilia> daftykins:It's a Compaq nx 8220, let me check the processor :)
[00:24] <Reptilia> CPU: Intel Pentium M 740 (1.73Ghz)
[00:24] <Reptilia> :D
[00:24] <quidnunc> I can't install skype on trusty 64 bit: "Package skype-bin:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[00:24] <quidnunc> Can anyone help?
[00:25] <Reptilia> daftykins:http://paste.ubuntu.com/7517601/
[00:25] <bazhang> !info skype partner | quidnunc
[00:26] <bazhang> !partner | quidnunc
[00:26] <quidnunc> bazhang: I have partner in sources.list
[00:26] <bazhang> quidnunc, then apt-get update and try again
[00:26] <quidnunc> bazhang: I did (?)
[00:27] <bazhang> pastebin sources.lst please quidnunc
[00:28] <daftykins> Reptilia: yeah wow that's one relic, ok reading now
[00:28] <daftykins> Reptilia: ok yep it's using the radeon driver, that's the best you're likely to get
[00:28] <Reptilia> daftykins:Hahahahahah, relic, lol
[00:28] <AcRoBaT> hi all, I have a question, can ubuntu use the secure port 6697 ?
[00:28] <daftykins> Reptilia: what RAM does it have?
[00:29] <Reptilia> daftykins:512
[00:29] <daftykins> AcRoBaT: 6697 isn't a secure port of anything.
[00:29] <AcRoBaT> yes it is, it's for irc, I run mirc via wine
[00:29] <daftykins> Reptilia: ooooouch you'd be way better off with something like lubuntu or xubuntu, they're a lot lighter weight - but i really don't think that system has much use left with modern distros
[00:29] <quidnunc> bazhang: dpaste.com/3B0DYDX/
[00:29] <Reptilia> daftykins: I am using Xubuntu 14.04
[00:29] <Ben64> AcRoBaT: why would you run mirc in linux? use xchat or something else that is much better
[00:30] <daftykins> AcRoBaT: likely your attempt to use a windows client under WINE is the root of all your problems
[00:30] <Reptilia> daftykins: I am not using Ubuntu :/
[00:30] <AcRoBaT> 6697 doesn't seem to work for mirc and ubuntu so I am using xchat at the moment
[00:30] <daftykins> Reptilia: ah and it's still pretty bad?
[00:30] <quidnunc> bazhang: I also did sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[00:31] <Reptilia> daftykins: Well it is not that bad, but it's noticeable, since i am waiting a lot more after i click the browser icon, open a new tab, etc, compared to how long i've waited on 13.10 ...
[00:31] <bazhang> what does apt-cache search skype   show
[00:31] <quidnunc> bazhang: plugins mostly
[00:31] <AcRoBaT> 6697 is ssl
[00:31] <quidnunc> bazhang: You want output?
[00:31] <jeff__> holly ...
[00:31] <jeff__> raaaaaaaaaaaaah
[00:31] <wheresmypaaants> sith
[00:31] <AcRoBaT> will xchat use ssl
[00:31] <wheresmypaaants> are you the same sith that helped me with my lightdm problem
[00:32] <wheresmypaaants> Sith_Lord:
[00:32] <wheresmypaaants> well, i can use someone else
[00:32] <bazhang> quidnunc, no thats ok
[00:33] <wheresmypaaants> Okay, I have been using GDM lately due to a lightdm issue. But I want to switch to lightdm (not explaining why, too long) but I'm having an issue because lightdm always gave me "The system is running in low-graphics mode" and whatever. anyone got a clue on how to fix?
[00:33] <daftykins> Reptilia: i think it's just a sign of progress i'm afraid, i wouldn't force anyone to use such old hardware :(
[00:35] <jeff__> je suis un gros boulet sa race
[00:35] <Reptilia> daftykins:Yeah i know, this is not my main machine, although i am in love with it, i don't know why. My main PC is being serviced, so i have to use this laptop :)
[00:35] <Beldar> !fr | jeff__
[00:35] <Reptilia> daftykins:And i've chosen Xubuntu because i was amazed of how fast it was working
[00:35] <quidnunc> bazhang: I found the problem: apt pinning was preventing installation.
[00:36] <Reptilia> on such an old hardware
[00:36] <jeff__> nan mais personne qui parle un peu françcais ici ?
[00:36] <Beldar> jeff__, Cesser d'afficher des ordures
[00:36] <daftykins> jeff__: english only thanks. you've been told where to go
[00:37] <jeff__> ok it's not a prob
[01:05] <MasterBlaster> What's the fastest way to organize my directory and create a good coding environment?
[01:09] <wheresmypaaants> quick question
[01:09] <wheresmypaaants> what would happen if you uninstalled all display managers (gdm, lightdm, etc.)
[01:09] <wheresmypaaants> would it just ask for password via terminal, then login?
[01:10] <zykotick9> wheresmypaaants: yes, it's the same as console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[01:10] <wheresmypaaants> after the password does it load unity?
[01:10] <wheresmypaaants> just wondering :P
[01:10] <zykotick9> wheresmypaaants: no, you'd need to type "startx" to start xorg
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> alrighty
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> zykotick9: Can you help me out with something?
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> My lightdm is being a bitch
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> OMG sorry
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> I forgot the rules
[01:11] <nevyn> MasterBlaster: learn scm?
[01:11] <zykotick9> wheresmypaaants: i _highly_ doubt it... i've never used lightdm... sorry
[01:11] <wheresmypaaants> zykotick9: Then one other issue
[01:12] <wheresmypaaants> recovery mode gives read only filesystem
[01:12] <wheresmypaaants> which defeats the purpose of recovery mode
[01:12] <wheresmypaaants> i cant fix anything
[01:12] <wheresmypaaants> any ideas?
[01:12] <zykotick9> no, it doesn't.  that's "normal".  remount it r/w if you need too.
[01:13] <wheresmypaaants> why does it do that?
[01:13] <wheresmypaaants> could i have the command for that?
[01:13] <nevyn> because recovery drops you into the boot process before the disks are remounted r/w
[01:13] <wheresmypaaants> oh
[01:13] <wheresmypaaants> i see
[01:13] <wheresmypaaants> :P
[01:13] <nevyn> it's an ormal part of booting.
[01:14] <wheresmypaaants> whats the command to remount it as read/write
[01:14] <nevyn> remount -o remount,rw /
[01:14] <wheresmypaaants> oh wait, i got it
[01:14] <nevyn> or whatever the filesystem is
[01:14] <wheresmypaaants> sudo mount -n -o remount /
[01:14] <nevyn> it should be in the recovery banner.
[01:14] <wheresmypaaants> its not :F
[01:14] <wheresmypaaants> but i got it
[01:14] <nevyn> bleh remount doesn't even exist as a command
[01:14] <AncientPC> Is there a way to push something via command line over http:// for a bandwidth test? I have reason to suspect my ISP is throttling rsync / scp connections.
[01:14] <MasterBlaster> scm? nevym
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> my lightdm is having a civil war with ubuntu
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> i really dont want gdm :F
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> but i have to...
[01:15] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: why do you have to?
[01:15] <nevyn> MasterBlaster: source management.!scm
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> because otherwise i get "The system is running in low graphics mode"
[01:15] <nevyn> !scm
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> So, to fix, GDM
[01:15] <nevyn> really ubutt/win 35
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> That's my solution :F
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> i tried a clean reinstall of lightdm
[01:15] <wheresmypaaants> ive tried EVERYTHING
[01:15] <MasterBlaster> nevym: ah
[01:16] <wheresmypaaants> it hates nvidia
[01:16] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: try a different login manager. I use Slim. It's  abit old but it's very simple and does the job for me
[01:16] <wheresmypaaants> do you remove remnants of uninstalled packages with apt-get purge?
[01:16] <nevyn> MasterBlaster: git/cvs/sourcesafe/proforce etc.
[01:16] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: I don't tend to installa  lot of new stuff, but usually I would purge if I uninstalled something for testing and removed it soon after
[01:17] <zykotick9> somsip: just curious, are you using gnome3/unity or something else as a DE/WM environment?  i hear Slim has issues with creating the environment for many...  i too used Slim for a period, but it wasn't with a DE.
[01:17] <wheresmypaaants> cant install slim
[01:17] <wheresmypaaants> it suggests updating my thing with apt-get update
[01:17] <wheresmypaaants> that wont work
[01:17] <wheresmypaaants> F:
[01:17] <somsip> zykotick9: I use awesomewm. I didn't know there might be other issues with slim, so maybe it's not a good recommendation
[01:18] <wheresmypaaants> i just dont like gdms look
[01:18] <wheresmypaaants> any other display managers?
[01:18] <zykotick9> somsip: i'm an awesomewm user as well ;)
[01:18] <MasterBlaster> nevym: I use git but I would like to clean and organize my directory too.
[01:19] <somsip> zykotick9: Slim and awesome is nice and quick I find. And Slim solved PCmanfm not auto-mounting USB drives for me too.
[01:19] <wheresmypaaants> somsip: What about MDM
[01:19] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: never heard of it
[01:19] <zykotick9> somsip: interesting.  thanks.
[01:19] <wheresmypaaants> somsip: Mint Display Manager
[01:19] <wheresmypaaants> ^^ Linux Mint login
[01:20] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: I've had nothing to do with Mint so have no experience of that
[01:20] <wheresmypaaants> i tried mint once
[01:20] <wheresmypaaants> it wouldnt do a single thing
[01:20] <wheresmypaaants> i didnt go wrong... it just hated my hardware
[01:22] <wheresmypaaants> >:D today i mac'd my ubuntu
[01:22] <wheresmypaaants> i made it look OSX-y
[01:22] <daftykins> that's lovely but off topic
[01:22] <wheresmypaaants> :(
[01:22] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: just in case you're still chatting to me, I won't respond as that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <wheresmypaaants> somsip: Can we take it there :P
[01:23] <somsip> wheresmypaaants: you can. I have work to do.
[01:23] <daftykins> mint is also off topic
[01:23] <wheresmypaaants> okay, see ya later
[01:25] <hexacode> anyone got any idea what i do next after creating a gpt fat32 partition on a usb so i can get a bootable version of ubuntu on it?  do i use unetbootin next to take care of the rest?
[01:25] <hexacode> for uefi
[01:25] <shunya_chakra> hi, i change my screen brightness from settings, but everytime I restart my lap my screen brightness comes back to default. How can i set my brightness.?
[01:25] <Beldar> hexacode, The uefi stuff is built in for install a regular usb loader works fine.
[01:26] <Beldar> hexacode, No gpt on the usb
[01:26] <hexacode> Beldar you saying unetbootin automates it? has an option for it?
[01:26] <Beldar> hexacode, automates what?
[01:27] <Arbition> Hi, how is the updater path from 12.04 to 14.04 looking? I notice that this path isn't in the upgrade notes.
[01:27] <Beldar> !uefi | hexacode look here
[01:27] <Beldar> Arbition, Official LTS upgrade is in July
[01:28] <Arbition> Ah right
[01:28] <Beldar> Arbition, You can upgrade from the cli though if you can't wait. ;)
[01:29] <Arbition> I might just do that. apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:29] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | Arbition
[01:29] <Arbition> ah
[01:30] <Arbition> !upgrade
[01:30] <Arbition> dern it
[01:30] <Arbition> hate going in circles
[01:31] <Flannel> Arbition: LTS to LTS upgrades aren't enabled by default until 14.04.1 (3 months after release, approximately).  You can upgrade early if you like though.
[01:35] <Flannel> Arbition: To do that, just run your upgrade manager with an additional "-d" flag.  (`update-manager -d`, `do-release-upgrade -d`, etc)
[01:35] <Arbition> heh, I already did that, though I used the long option version
[01:36] <daftykins> pretty sure -d is a bad idea since at some point it'll upgrade people to 14.10
[01:37] <Flannel> daftykins: Not from 12.04
[01:37] <Flannel> (or 13.10, but they don't need the -d)
[01:38] <Arbition> Well I've begun the process. I don't really expect any more support :P If it breaks I'll just have to rebuild it
[01:38] <daftykins> an excellent approach!
[01:43] <knob> Hey guys, got a Ubuntu-Server mixed with WordPress question.
[01:43] <knob> I did a fresh 14.04 Server install.   All running good.
[01:43] <knob> I installed WordPress, all good.
[01:43] <knob> I then installed a WordPress plugin that changes from using ftp for uploads, to sftp (SSH SFTP Updater Support)
[01:44] <knob> When I try to use it for the first time, it throws me   "Could not copy file."
[01:44] <knob> So I thought it was because of the permissions to where it's uploading.   I checked, and the permissions of that directory (plugins/)  were set to  nobody and nogroup
[01:44] <knob> I then created a new group, www
[01:45] <knob> I added my user (not root) to the www group
[01:45] <knob> I then did     chown myUSER:www plugins/
[01:45] <knob> Yet when I use the sftp plugin, it still throws the   "Could not copy file" error.
[01:45] <knob> Any idea what I could check?
[01:46] <daftykins> that's a wordpress and plugin support question more than an OS question
[01:46] <Beldar> knob, your right index finger for overheating? ;)
[01:47] <knob> Beldar, sorry for that.   I hit it trying to make it more clean.
[01:47] <Beldar> knob, Your fine.
[01:48] <Beldar> just having fun, well at least for me.
[01:48] <knob> daftykins, yeah.  Those are my thoughts... yet I wanted to run it by you guys.     I'm a n00b at this.          If the directory has owner  myUSER, and the group www... it *should* permit that user to do what it wants, right?
[01:48] <knob> Beldar, cool cool =)
[01:48] <daftykins> knob: assuming what's running is even running as said user
[01:49] <daftykins> knob: in fairness i run wordpress stuffs and in a lot of cases i just transfer data manually :P
[01:49] <knob> daftykins, yeah... I did it that way.  Yet starting this server/website from scratch, I thought to try and go more secure from the get-go.
[01:50] <knob> I'm posting over in the forums... lets see what they say.=)
[01:50] <Flannel> knob: Is this writing being done by the user (via straight FTP/SFTP) or via a webpage?
[01:50] <knob> Flannel, via webpage
[01:50] <Flannel> knob: That's being written by the webserver's user (www-data) not your own user.  So you'll want to make it writable by that user.
[01:51] <knob> Flannel, ohh... so    chown www-data    ?
[01:51] <Flannel> right, you need the www-data user to be able to access it.
[01:52] <daftykins> what i do is add my user + www-data to a group called 'webby' then set the ownership to www-data:webby
[01:52] <daftykins> that way, you can modify the user's permissions separate to that of the group
[01:52] <boy_wanders> Hey My keyboard isn't functioning correctly now, I'm on a UK layout keyboard and pressing the hashtag button turns into a <
[01:52] <boy_wanders> \
[01:53] <Flannel> daftykins: you can do a similar thing by simply adding your user to the www-data group
[01:53] <knob> daftykins, that was what I was looking for... going to try that now!
[01:53] <daftykins> Flannel: yep, i'm not sure what the logic i saw in making my own, oh well :D
[01:53] <knob> Flannel, oh yeah?   So say,       usermod -a -G www-data myUSER           ??
[01:53] <Flannel> knob: NOOOOOOO
[01:53] <knob> haha
[01:53] <knob> ok
[01:54] <Flannel> knob: Never use usermod to add users to groups, you'll eventually forget the -a and mess things up.  Use adduser (adduser USER GROUP) to do it instead.
[01:55] <knob> Ok ok... good info.      These are my first hours in Ubuntu server/desktop
[01:55] <knob> =)
[01:57] <knob> Flannel, and the directory to be modified... should it be owned by  myUSER    , and group    www-data     ??
[01:58] <Flannel> knob: That's up to you.  If the group is set to www-data and it has group write permissions, then it'll work fine.  The other way around is true too.
[01:59] <knob> Ok ok... checking that now...
[02:01] <Jeffrey_f> Flannel: best doing access by groups.  Keeps permissions neat and compact
[02:01] <el> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:02] <qin> Hope no one mind if above would be quoted somewhere, since it is practical Linux problem: never use usermod to modify your user, funny but true...
[02:02] <Guest94046> hola
[02:02] <rio_zenta> Hello Guest94046
[02:03] <Beldar> !es | Guest94046
[02:03] <Guest94046> hello rio zenta
[02:04] <Guest94046> my name is alan
[02:04] <Guest94046> what s
[02:05] <Guest94046> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:05] <rio_zenta> Nice to meet you alan
[02:05] <Guest94046> bay
[02:06] <boy_wanders> Is there a way to fix the Dropbox not syncing issue on 14.04?
[02:06] <Beldar> boy_wanders, syncs here
[02:07] <tuga3d> hi all, is there a ppa for Trusty with vim compiled with support for python3?
[02:07] <rio_zenta> wow, I just installed ubuntu server through wubi, lol
[02:07] <daftykins> pretty sure WUBI is unsupported now
[02:07] <tuga3d> the vim-daily repo is too old :(
[02:07] <daftykins> you're on your own
[02:07] <boy_wanders> Beldar did you just install it from the software center?
[02:07] <rio_zenta> tuga3d what do you mean vim compiled with support for python3?
[02:08] <tuga3d> the default vim comes with python2 support but not 3
[02:08] <rio_zenta> daftykins: ubuntu12.04 LTS. I converted desktop to server using tasksel
[02:08] <Beldar> boy_wanders, I forget, I'm in W8.1 at the moment, I believe there is an addition to the sources.list though.
[02:08] <rio_zenta> tuga3d: oh you want vim (the commandline editor) to work with python3?
[02:09] <tuga3d> do a vim --version and check if you have +python3 or -python3
[02:09] <tuga3d> yep
[02:09] <Beldar> boy_wanders, I think I have the repos info using the dropbox site, so no not the ubuntu repos.
[02:09] <somsip> tuga3d: vim-gtk is -python3 FWIW
[02:09] <rio_zenta> no vim installed by me lol
[02:10] <Beldar> rio_zenta, YOU know wubi is not supported, and that support there was, was one person?
[02:10] <tuga3d> do you guys know any ppa that as this?
[02:10] <rio_zenta> tuga3d: there should be a way to make python3 like vim, most likely from the python resources
[02:11] <Beldar> !ppa > tuga3d
[02:11] <rio_zenta> Beldar: It's fine, as the server is a small part-time test server. I'd love to have a full system dedicated to centos/ubuntu server, but not right now (circumstances).
[02:11] <rio_zenta> wb alan
[02:12] <Beldar> rio_zenta, The wubi designer themselves said for testing in lieu of a regular install.
[02:13] <Beldar> testing if you like ubuntu
[02:14] <rio_zenta> Beldar before doing full installs of ubuntu desktop, i was using a wubi Mint for a year or so.
[02:14] <tuga3d> Beldar: thanks, but i could't find any up to date :(
[02:15] <rio_zenta> if only there was a way to do wubi-esque installs of ubuntu within ubuntu
[02:15] <rio_zenta> then i wouldn't need wubi.
[02:15] <tuga3d> ok, out to compile vim, cya!
[02:15] <somsip> rio_zenta: use a VM
[02:15] <Beldar> tuga3d, YOU don't have to have the 14.04 version, I don't and it works on 14.10.
[02:16] <rio_zenta> somsip: you mean run ubuntu within ubuntu using something like virtual box? I tried doing that with damn small linux and the program crashed.
[02:16] <tuga3d> Beldar: ok, thanks :)
[02:17] <somsip> rio_zenta: DSL has very little to do with ubuntu so you are not comparing like for like. I run numerous VMs under ubuntu with no problems
[02:17] <rio_zenta> somsip what are your specs?
[02:17] <somsip> rio_zenta: what are you particularly interested in knowing?
[02:18] <rio_zenta> my hardware is limited somsip. I know that DSL crashed because of hardware limits.
[02:19] <somsip> rio_zenta: then maybe you have your own answers. Anyway, it's a moot discussion. I was making a suggestion for you
[02:19] <rio_zenta> thank you for the suggestion somsip.
[02:20] <tuga3d> Beldar: thanks, downloading...
[02:21] <qin> tuga3d: /j #vim; since it takes few trick install it with features you want.
[02:21] <jarray52> Does the Ubuntu LTS to LTS upgrade work pretty well for a desktop?
[02:22] <jarray52> 12.04 to 14.04
[02:22] <Beldar> jarray52, That context does not matter.
[02:22] <Beldar> no supporting data anyway
[02:23] <daftykins> jarray52: that upgrade isn't available until the 14.04.1 point release
[02:23] <jarray52> daftykins: Thanks.
[02:23] <jarray52> Beldar: What do you mean by supporting data?
[02:24] <Beldar> jarray52, There is no information (data) on your question.
[02:24] <qin> jarray52: There is no upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 yet, apparently...  but you could upgrade with -d switch
[02:25] <Beldar> jarray52, I would not upgrade without cloning myself though.
[02:25] <Beldar> cloning, myself*
[02:31] <Jeffrey_f> jarray52: If you are not too far behind, you may have to step up on the upgrades.  As an example, If I remember right....my only available bootable was 13.04.  It upgraded to 13.10 then to 14.04.  But it worked well for me
[02:32] <jarray52> Im on 12.04.
[02:32] <Beldar> going through two eol's is terrible advice
[02:33] <jarray52> Beldar, you recommend waiting for 14.04.1?
[02:34] <Beldar> jarray52, I can't really say I always fresh install, with an app list, reos and keys in about 1/4 the time and have a fresh OS.
[02:34] <Beldar> repos*
[02:34] <Jeffrey_f> jarray52:   If you are too far back, you may not get the ability to upgrade.....I haven't tried.  Dump your home folder (include select hidden folders) to a portable drive and just wipe/install the latest.
[02:35] <jarray52> Beldar: In the past, I always fresh installed, but one might as well use upgrade functionality that someone built.
[02:36] <Beldar> jarray52, Your opinion, not mine, but that's what makes the world go around. ;)
[02:37] <Beldar> they made it possible to do it the way I do, so...........
[02:38] <daftykins> jarray52: heh, my entire time around Windows, everyone in the IT world laughs at the word 'upgrade'
[02:38] <daftykins> clean installs or nothing imo
[02:40] <DANtheBEASTman> trying to install a [non-Free] package that's i386 on my 64bit system, I've gotten a few of the libs installed, but I can't find 'libgthread-2.0.so.0'
[02:41] <Beldar> !find libgthread-2.0.so.0
[02:42] <Beldar> DANtheBEASTman, ^^^^^^ not sure that helps, but there you go.
[02:43] <DANtheBEASTman> libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version
[02:44] <Beldar> DANtheBEASTman, This a 3rd party app/package?
[02:44] <DANtheBEASTman> yeah..
[02:44] <DANtheBEASTman> I think they built it on squeeze
[02:45] <DANtheBEASTman> but the squeeze lib relies on old libc
[02:45] <Beldar> DANtheBEASTman, Probably best to get with their support, unless you can lay out the issue so clear someone here knows.
[02:46] <Beldar> Technically not supported is all
[02:53] <AphisOne> How do I disable the guest login with dconf?
[02:54] <xangua> AphisOne: you disable it in lightdm conf, not dconf
[02:54] <AphisOne> xangua: can you point me in the direction of documentation for that?
[02:59] <Jeffrey_f> AphisOne: http://itsfoss.com/disable-guest-account-session-ubuntu-1304/
[03:00] <AphisOne> Can I safely uninstall gdm-guest-session to disable guest login?
[03:00] <AphisOne> thanks Jeffrey_f
[03:00] <Jeffrey_f> AphisOne: NO PROB.
[03:00] <AphisOne> Jeffrey_f: do you know if that works in 13.10
[03:00] <Jeffrey_f> AphisOne: It should still be valid.
[03:01] <Jeffrey_f> AphisOne:  back up the config file, then mess with it
[03:01] <AphisOne> Okay, thanks bunches Jeffrey_f
[03:01] <AphisOne> These are all on fresh installs, and I'll be testing it on a test system... but yah!!
[03:03] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[03:04] <fancyfetus> how come when I try to add the cinnamon repository to 14.04 LTS through the terminal, it gives me -  gpg: "tag:launchpad.net:2008:redacted" not a key ID: skipping
[03:05] <xangua> fancyfetus: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable It looks like the repository has no public acces
[03:06] <fancyfetus> Hmmm... it's in their public download page.
[03:06] <fancyfetus> "Use the following PPA: <>"
[03:07] <fancyfetus> I'm not a fan of unity. I prefer a traditional desktop task bar that still looks sexy
[03:07] <xangua> fancyfetus: and as you can read in the ppa site it says 'this page is private'
[03:08] <rww> Perhaps you should ask the Cinnamon folks about it.
[03:08] <fancyfetus> alrighty :)
[03:10] <lqptrigger> hello
[03:13] <Jeffrey_f> lqptrigger: Just ask your question
[03:14] <john2x> hi. i'm trying to set up GitHub ssh keys on a server. It's working, except that I need to run `ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa` every time I login.. how do I make it permanent?
[03:15] <mortal1_> me trouble with the whole disk encryption installation
[03:15] <mortal1_> ugh
[03:15] <mortal1_> I'm having some trouble with the whole disk encryption installation
[03:16] <mortal1_> initramfs can't seem to find my root partition
[03:16] <mortal1_> lemme pastebin my crypttab / fstab for yall
[03:21] <[asimov]> [[lutchy]]: Where are the hex addresses seen for the ata devices?
[03:26] <dw1> fancyfetus: I use the gnome classic (sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback) - more at http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[03:27] <mortal1_> http://pastebin.com/HZAwKgAn
[03:27] <mortal1_> ^ that's my crypttab / fstab
[03:28] <mortal1_> If anyone has a working install of ubuntu with whole disk encryption, I'd be very interested in seeing a working crypttab file
[03:29] <[asimov]> mortal1_: Hi
[03:29] <mortal1_> [asimov]: hello
[03:30] <[asimov]> mortal1_: What for?
[03:31] <mortal1_> [asimov]: I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with respect to re-using an existing encrypted lvm
[03:31] <[asimov]> Reusing it for what?
[03:32] <mortal1_> [asimov]: I have an encrypted root, swap, and home from a previous install
[03:32] <mortal1_> I don't care about the root or swap
[03:32] <mortal1_> I'd actually prefer those were formatted
[03:33] <mortal1_> but the encrypted home I have to save
[03:33] <mortal1_> it has 500+ gigs of family video
[03:33] <mortal1_> (hd video eats disk space :^)
[03:33] <[asimov]> mortal1_: copy it out
[03:33] <[asimov]> mortal1_: family video?
[03:34] <mortal1_> home video of family, softball games etc
[03:34] <[asimov]> Is mortal1_ another script?
[03:34] <mortal1_> wha?
[03:34] <[asimov]> Why is it on ubuntu?
[03:34] <mortal1_> uh, because I'm installing ubuntu
[03:34] <[asimov]> That is something to put on archival dvd's
[03:34] <mortal1_> or attempting to
[03:35] <mortal1_> it's on my hard drive
[03:35] <[asimov]> copy it out
[03:35] <mortal1_> (granted my backup strategy hasn't been the best)
[03:35] <mortal1_> [asimov]: that's the thing, my only other drive is like 300g
[03:36] <Technicus> Hello anyone here have experience with the Intel Galileo?  Yes, I know this is a Ubuntu channel.  The Galileo has Yocto a Linux OS, but the community is small, that is why I am here.
[03:37] <mortal1_> [asimov]: look, I was just asking around trying to find a working example of a crypttab
[03:37] <mortal1_> I take it you don't have such a thing, 's alright
[03:38] <[asimov]> Where are the hex addresses seen for the ata devices?
[03:39] <[asimov]> mortal1_: Why do you want to be mort?
[03:40] <Beldar> Technicus, Use ubuntu and you will have the larger support.
[03:40] <mortal1_> [asimov]: when I first started unix, root == superuser, and I needed a name for my normal user, a mere mortal :^)
[03:41] <AphisOne> How do I use wildcard with `rm` in a script... when I attempt to insert what I would type on the command line it tells me no file or directory matches
[03:41] <Beldar> Technicus, ##linux is another that supports all, you have to be registered with freenode though.
[03:41] <Technicus> Beldar: Ok, thanks.
[03:42] <[asimov]> How is it that it is a mere mortal? Unless root goes.
[03:42] <Beldar> no prob
[03:43]  * [asimov] slams glasses on the table
[03:43] <mortal1_> [asimov]: think greek god vs mere mortal if it helps
[03:43] <[asimov]> What is a mans life worth?
[03:43] <[asimov]> prepare the nukes
[03:43]  * mortal1_ wonders if he's getting trolled
[03:43] <[asimov]> time to reckon accounts
[03:44] <[asimov]> mortal1_: do you touch abaddon?
[03:46] <mortal1_> right, back on topic, does anyone here have ubuntu running with whole disk encryption?
[03:47] <[asimov]> Am I the only one?
[03:47] <rww> ...
[03:48] <[asimov]> Stop that cipher shit
[03:49] <ridethespiral> anyone on 14.04 have issues with chrome taking forever to open?
[03:51] <Beldar> ridethespiral, I rarely use chrome but I set my browsers to save nothing but the passwords.
[03:52] <mortal1_> rww: thanks, for some reason I thought the guys in []'s were admins, and I was confused by the behavior
[03:52] <ridethespiral> I don't know why I didn't try deleting cache and saved files from chrome but that Just did the trick Beldar
[03:52] <ridethespiral> heh
[03:53] <Beldar> ridethespiral, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[03:57] <e808d> disconnect
[04:02] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to get irssi to ding in gnome terminal. It's not working, and I can't figure out what's wrong.
[04:05] <babinlonston> I Want to allow one person to check my server for some issue, and he needs to check the server in root privileges, how can i give him login detail's using ssh key file.
[04:07] <cr33p> babinlonston, if you trust him, just make him a root account or give him your login details
[04:08] <Datz> or include him in the sudoers file too
[04:09] <Jeffrey_f> babinlonston: That ssh key does not necessarilty give login , just connection.  Login is credentials (user/pass), which is separate.  Also, each machine should have a unique SSH key if possible
[04:10] <somsip> babinlonston: do not share your public key. Do not allow root access through ssh. Create a new user with a new private key. Give him that
[04:10] <somsip> *do not share your private key
[04:11] <somsip> babinlonston: give the new user sudo access if you feel that's appropriate. Better (IMHO) would be to not give him the password and to share the session with him so you can watch what he is doing and enter the sudo password yourself.
[04:12] <cr33p> somsip, that is the best idea
[04:12] <cr33p> just get teamviewer, let him come in... show him your terminal and watch what he does
[04:14] <Jeffrey_f> babinlonston: Also, remember, as a sudo'er, that person can traverse the private folders, either use encrypted home folders or create a group, add this person to that group and deny access to this person to certain areas/folders/actions
[04:15] <SchrodingersScat> cr33p: or screen -x
[04:16] <somsip> babinlonston: so make sure you have a backup in case they mess up, accidentally or delibearatlely, and that you know how to kick the user and rescind access if they prove to be malicious
[04:20] <sheer> hey has anyone lost their chrome extension tray icons recently?
[04:20] <sheer> I can't get a hangouts icon to appear any more
[04:21] <Beldar>  sheer You checked that extensions preferences?
[04:22] <sheer> yeah, set to show in 'system tray'
[04:22] <sheer> it was fine until a day ago
[04:23] <story> Is there a way to watch what files a process opens?  Just the files?
[04:23] <Beldar> sheer, Chrome does have a reset that saves the bookmarks and passwords.
[04:23] <SchrodingersScat> !lsof | story
[04:23] <AcidRain2012> story, i think there is a wiretrip program
[04:23] <SchrodingersScat> wait
[04:24] <SchrodingersScat> !info lsof | story
[04:24] <sheer> Beldar, I tried setting up everything again in Chromium (instead of Chrome), so new profile from scratch, and still no dice
[04:24] <story> SchrodingersScat, so story is the process?
[04:26] <allen_> guys i have a question, i am still running unity, i have everything installed and all working great, but i was more of a fan of Cinnamon DE or even XFCE, am I gonna risk messing up any of my apps if install the other DE?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> allen_ no but you won't have unity integration.
[04:26] <Beldar> sheer, Not sure that although both are separate you would not have cross contamination, I would go to .config in home and remove the google-chrome folder and restart chrome, you could save that if needed.
[04:26] <allen_> i've switched over from MINT and I am wondering if the issues i had were Mint, or if they were caused by the DE
[04:27] <allen_> cfhowlett, what does the integration do for me? only been on ubuntu for a week, so any insight is greatly appreciated
[04:27] <SchrodingersScat> !info xubuntu-destop | allen_
[04:27] <cfhowlett> allen_ can't say.  install xfce4, logout, login and test.  free and easy
[04:27] <holstein> allen_: you should be able to easily install xfce4
[04:27] <cfhowlett> allen_ easier for you to experience for yourself: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:29] <allen_> thanks guys i'm just concerned i will be back to the issues i had before i switched.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> allen_ if you don't like it, logout, choose ubuntu/unity session, log back in.  fixed!
[04:30] <allen_> i ASSUME it was issues in Mint but not 100% sure
[04:30] <holstein> allen_: what issues?
[04:30] <allen_> I use deluge, and Deluge stopped working in Mint if i used a proxy server, which i do.
[04:30] <Beldar> sheer, I think that google file in .config is actually the whole file so not a good idea probably unless you save passwords and bookmarks.
[04:31] <SchrodingersScat> allen_: so does it work now?
[04:31] <allen_> i was having some video issues as well, that i have not experienced in ubuntu
[04:31] <allen_> yes it works like a charm now SchrodingersScat
[04:31] <SchrodingersScat> charms don't work..
[04:31] <holstein> allen_: you could be comparing the mint based on ubuntu 13.10 to ubuntu 14.04 as well, and be finding issues more with a specific kernel and your specific hardware
[04:32] <DrRodneyMckay> Is there any sort of log that can tell me if the network interface has changed recently? I need to find out if someone changed the network interface from eth0 to eth1
[04:32] <story> SchrodingersScat, lsof seems to be a snapshot, I need soemthing that will watch the process from beginnig to end, see all files it opens
[04:32] <sheer> I'll see how I go, thanks Beldar
[04:32] <allen_> holstein, yeah i thought of that, i'm just not comfortable enough yet that when i get into a mess i can get myself back out of it, and i would hate to reload again now that everything is so smooth
[04:33] <holstein> allen_: could have been anything in the config..
[04:33] <allen_> just having a hard time getting used to unity.
[04:33] <DrRodneyMckay> Actually cat /var/syslog | grep eth - seems to have what i need
[04:33] <holstein> allen_: unity is just one of many options
[04:33] <allen_> so can i ask what you all run ?
[04:34] <Sohron> DrRodneyMckay: ifconfig? that'll show you which network interfaces are up and with what adresses
[04:34] <holstein> allen_: openbox, lxde, xfce... depends.. i'll run unity if it fits the needs best
[04:34] <DrRodneyMckay> Sohron - Sorry was looking if someone had changed the interface name at any point
[04:35] <DrRodneyMckay> Had a issue with some software that relied on a hardcoded name of eth0, Wanted to find out how and when it became eth1 - Syslog has the info i need :
[04:35] <DrRodneyMckay> Thanks anyway dude :)
[04:35] <SchrodingersScat> story: internet is telling me maybe strace
[04:37] <Sohron> DrRodneyMckay: ah okay
[04:37] <allen_> thanks guys
[04:45] <story> I tried this to cut down on output: strace -ff -e trace=write gedit
[04:46] <story> But it didn't actually show me the filepath to gedit file I saved.
[04:47] <story> The short sentence I wrote, did show up as being written:  [pid  5110] write(17, "now is time to see something.\n", 30) = 30
[04:53] <story> Anyone here know how to connect to wifi in chroot?
[04:59] <story> Is there a tool for installing themes for Ubuntu 14.04?
[05:00] <qstrahl> The Caffeine icon has completely stopped appearing in my unity systray... don't suppose anyone could help me diagnose the issue? :<
[05:00] <qstrahl> (It's running, for starters)
[05:01] <Beldar> qstrahl, You tried just dragging a new icon from the dash?
[05:01] <qstrahl> Beldar, The issue is there used to be an icon in the upper-right for Caffeine, but there isn't any longer. I'm not sure why.
[05:02] <qstrahl> With the icons for transmission, diodon, wireless, battery, etc
[05:02] <Beldar> qstrahl, Ah, I thought you meant in the left panel.
[05:03] <qstrahl> I'm not sure about my Unity terminology. In every other WM I've used, I've known what I'm talking about as the "systray". What should I be calling it? =P
[05:03] <Beldar> qstrahl, Not sure.
[05:03] <qstrahl> Okay. No ideas then?
[05:04] <story> Trying to install mypaint but getting this error: E: Unable to locate package mypaint
[05:04] <story> I already sudo apt-get update.
[05:05] <Beldar> qstrahl, Have you tried closing the app and seeing if it shows again when on. I'm not real familiar with unity so I hate to waste your time on a goose chase
[05:05] <qstrahl> Yeah, tried killing and restarting the program a few times, no dice :<
[05:06] <Beldar> I like unity I just use the gnome shell
[05:07] <EzeQL_______> hi, im using "mail" for reading mails. when i want to delte all using d 1-50 and then x, all goes ok, but when i enter again, all of them alll are there, whats aheppning?
[05:07] <story> Ok, mypaint will install on my installed system, but in chroot why can't it find the package?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !info mypaint
[05:09] <story> cfhowlett, yeah, but for some reason in chroot it is not able to find the package.
[05:09] <story> I have installed gimp, inkscape in chroot, but mypaint is not found.
[05:09] <cfhowlett> story why do you need chroot to install?
[05:10] <linuxdragon> what happens when you download netflix and does not work
[05:10] <story> I've extract Ubuntu 14.04 and am adding apps to the live cd.
[05:10] <linuxdragon> and how you fix it
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !netflix
[05:10] <story> Using this guide to make a custom cd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:14] <story> Does anyone know how to install mypaint inside chroot?
[05:15] <qstrahl> Is there a limit to how many icons display in the systray or something?
[05:19] <Isvara> Is it possible to install Ubuntu (desktop) onto drives already partitioned with LVM?
[05:23] <bazhang> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO   Isvara have a read first
[05:26] <Isvara> bazhang: That's not about Ubuntu...
[05:27] <nevyn> Isvara: is there spare space in the vg?
[05:28] <nevyn> I suspect it's well into expert mode install stuff regardless.
[05:28] <nevyn> it's not going to be very automatic or pretty but it might be doable.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> !lvm
[05:34] <Isvara> Actually, I said lvm, I really mean md. I have three partitions on each of six drives. One is an lvm partition that I want to preserve entirely, and I want to install Ubuntu onto my raid1 partition using my raid0 partion for swap.
[05:34] <Isvara> (The lvm is actually on top of raid6, but that doesn't matter as I don't want to touch that.)
[05:34] <cfhowlett> !raid
[05:37] <Isvara> Where's this alternative installer?
[05:37] <bazhang> there isnt one
[05:39] <Isvara> I'm surprised Ubuntu is so lacking in this area. I had expected it would be at least as good as Debian's installer.
[05:40] <bazhang> !mini | Isvara give this a look
[05:40] <Artemis3> Isvara, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:41] <Isvara> Yeah? I'll give it a whirl.
[05:42] <Guest5459> hi
[05:42] <Guest5459> i just installed lampp in ubuntu unable to load my web application
[05:42] <Guest5459> Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[05:42] <Guest5459> Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required '/opt/lampp/htdocs/Huskies/index.php' (include_path='.:/opt/lampp/lib/php') in Unknown on line 0
[05:43] <Guest5459> hi
[05:45] <somsip> Guest5459: the file is not at the path specified or has incorrect permissions. Check these
[05:45] <Guest5459> file is there and i tried giving 777
[05:46] <somsip> Guest5459: and the directory it's in? As an aside - 777 is rarely needed. If you find yourself doing this, chances are you are doing something wrong
[05:46] <bazhang> that shouldn
[05:46] <bazhang> be in /opt
[05:47] <bazhang> !lamp | Guest5459 try this instead
[05:53] <Vivekananda> hi everyone. installed p7zip-full , ubuntu 12.04  but dont see it as option in nautilus on right click on a .rar file
[05:55] <vonsyd0w> Vivekananda, I've got p7zip-rar installed as well
[05:57] <Vivekananda> oo ok . This wasnt the case earlier if I remembe correctly
[06:00] <user123321> hi
[06:00] <user123321> how can I join localized ubuntu chat?
[06:00] <user123321> In my location.
[06:00] <bazhang> user123321, what language
[06:01] <user123321> English
[06:01] <bazhang> user123321, what locale
[06:01] <user123321> My country ubuntu?
[06:01] <user123321> locale?
[06:01] <bazhang> yes
[06:01] <user123321> I don't know :|
[06:01] <bazhang> whats your locale
[06:03] <user123321> en_US.UTF-8
[06:03] <bazhang> user123321, you want to join a "local ubuntu chat", for what country
[06:04] <babinlonston> somsip: got good idea from u thanks
[06:05] <user123321> bazhang, Ah I found the list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList, thanks :)
[06:07] <user123321> Eh, there's no one in my country's Ubuntu IRC :( :D
[06:09] <user123321> I have ATI GPU, is it not advisable to install proprietary driver?
[06:10] <bazhang> which card
[06:11] <user123321> Umm, I think it's 5600 series.
[06:11] <user123321> 1 GB
[06:14] <somsip> babinlonston: no worries
[06:17] <wllrt> Is there a way to lock screens in Lubuntu 14.04? Kinda like Windows with the split pane.
[06:18] <wllrt> ^Or half screen rather.
[06:19] <ianorlin>   in lubuntu there is windows key plus left or right but what aren't you asking in #lubuntu?
[06:20] <wllrt> ianorlin: I did asked there first. I am patiently waiting :)
[06:28]  * smokerboy sup
[06:39] <avi87> \msg arlen
[06:49] <owh> Under Ubuntu 10.04.4 is there an application (not gnome-panel) that I can launch that will show the Global Applications Menu? I cannot launch gnome-panel, since it doesn't play well with OS X using xquartz.
[06:53] <pushkar> how can i share my wifi network in ubuntu
[06:53] <owh> pushkar: With whom and with what kind of device?
[06:54] <pushkar> basically i want my wifi network to be used as a hotspot
[06:54] <pushkar> i know it is possible with wired connection
[06:54] <pushkar> but how do i do this with wireless
[06:55] <owh> pushkar: This is what google told me: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[06:56] <KM0201> question... there is an internet directory with about 100 zip files i want to download.. wget doesn't allow wildcards, so i can't use that... what would be an easy way to download all of a particular file extension
[06:56] <pushkar> owh: but that is telling me to convert a wired network into a hotspot
[06:56] <pushkar> how do i convert wireless network into a hotspot
[06:56] <owh> KM0201: It doesn't, but you can use bash wild-cards, like wget http://blah'{a,v,b}.mp3
[06:57] <KM0201> hmm
[06:57] <owh> pushkar: When I read it, it said to click on the make hotspot button. How is the computer connected to the 'net.
[06:58] <owh> KM0201: In effect, you'll be creating a wget with multiple URLs.
[06:58] <KM0201> hmm, i don't really understand what you're saying there
[06:58] <KM0201> i've never used bash though
[06:59] <booz> KM0201: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11783280/downloading-all-the-files-in-a-directory-with-curl
[06:59] <owh> KM0201: The command I gave you (without the extraneous quote) would become wget http://blaha.mp3 http://blahv.mp3 http://blahb.mp3.
[06:59] <owh> KM0201: wget also has a --mirror option.
[07:00] <owh> KM0201: Something like wget --mirror --no-parent http://blah/theDirectory
[07:01]  * owh prefers wget to curl any day.
[07:01] <KM0201> hmm, that might work
[07:01] <KM0201> yeah, if that doesn't work, i'll try curl
[07:02] <KM0201> meh, wget seems to be working just fine in that manner
[07:02] <KM0201> thanks
[07:08] <aman_> HI
[07:16] <jaime> er
[07:39] <helmut_> hi
[07:41] <salsero> yo
[07:42] <bit_boy> why this error    raise RuntimeError("autoconf error") RuntimeError: autoconf error  ?
[07:45] <bit_boy> on insallation of a software    raise RuntimeError("autoconf error") RuntimeError: autoconf error  why?
[07:46] <Isvara> Thanks to whomever told me about the text-based installer earlier. Now running from Ubuntu installed over my existing RAID partitions (and I didn´t lose my data).
[07:47] <JerryP> hi! anyone have a good sound enhancer? My laptop came with dolby home theater which worked great in Win, but I am having trouble finding anything for Ubuntu. Thanks!
[07:52] <Isvara> Wow, why does window dragging lag behind my cursor so much?
[07:54] <bit_boy> why this error    raise RuntimeError("autoconf error") RuntimeError: autoconf error  ?
[08:00] <Necrophagos> Is it possible to create a shell user who can move freely through the file system (like root) but cannot write anything (except their homedir maybe)?
[08:01] <owh> Necrophagos: A normal user can move through the file system.
[08:02] <KM0201> ok, another question
[08:02] <Necrophagos> owh: yeah but when directories don't have +x for them they can't access the directory
[08:02] <Isvara> Hmm. Why are ´ and ¨ acting as compose keys?
[08:03] <KM0201> i have about 60 zip files, that are all in 1 directory, i'd like to extract them all into a particular directory (saving their directory tree)... is there a single command to do that?.. i know how to do it 1 at a time
[08:03] <owh> KM0201: for n in *.zip ; do unzip "$n" ; done
[08:03] <bit_boy>  on insallation of a software    raise RuntimeError("autoconf error") RuntimeError: autoconf error  why?
[08:04] <Ben64> bit_boy: we'd need a lot more details
[08:04] <owh> Necrophagos: That's done for a reason. You don't want users to roam around the /etc directory.
[08:04] <KM0201> owh: huh?. you lost me again there
[08:04] <owh> KM0201: That command will unzip all the files in a directory.
[08:04] <Ben64> KM0201: type that in a terminal in the directory with the zip files you want to extract, its a simple for loop
[08:05] <KM0201> is there a way that i can unzip them to a differentdirectory?
[08:05] <owh> KM0201: sure... hold on
[08:06] <Necrophagos> owh: thats why I asked, I want the user to roam around everywhere and read everything. but not write
[08:06] <owh> KM0201: for n in *.zip ; do unzip -d "someDir" "$n" ; done
[08:06] <KM0201> ok
[08:06] <KM0201> thanks
[08:06] <KM0201> i'll try it
[08:07] <Ben64> Necrophagos: its a security feature
[08:07] <owh> Necrophagos: You *don't* want users to roam everywhere! What about if they read the password file, or read a memory file, or a device file? Those actions are not intended for simple users.
[08:08] <KM0201> thanks owh
[08:08] <owh> KM0201: Pleasure
[08:09] <KM0201> i really should be more efficient in command line than i am..lol
[08:09] <Ben64> KM0201: well now you know a bit more, this is how it works :D
[08:09] <dweez> Ben64: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[08:09] <owh> KM0201: It depends on what you want to achieve. Sometimes a command line is faster, sometimes it's not.
[08:09] <KM0201> yeah...
[08:09] <KM0201> Ben64: but i'll forget by tomorrow most likely
[08:09] <KM0201> lol
[08:10] <Ben64> that seems like a bot response...
[08:10] <KM0201> this isn't something i normally need to do,
[08:10] <Ben64> KM0201: well now you know a bit more, this is how it works :D
[08:10] <dweez> Ben64: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[08:10]  * owh nods.
[08:10] <KM0201> lol
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> GO JOBRA
[08:11] <owh> Ben64: It is "affiliated", so that's a little weird.
[08:12] <Ben64> aeon-ltd: community?
[08:12]  * owh has increased productivity and decreased productivity at the same time today. Still not sure which way is up.
[08:13]  * owh is running bare VMware Ubuntu guests (which previously were running window managers) and is not connecting via xquartz.
[08:13] <owh> s/not/now/
[08:14] <owh> Ben64: well now you know a bit more
[08:14] <dweez> owh: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[08:14] <owh> Yup
[08:14] <owh> !op
[08:14] <owh> the G.I. JOE is a bot
[08:14] <Ben64> owh: its not that critical, i already left them a message in #ubuntu-ops
[08:14] <owh> Fair enough.
[08:15]  * owh thought there was a strict policy.
[08:15] <Ben64> owh: well now you........ know, #ubuntu-ops i think is the preferred way unless something serious is happening
[08:15] <owh> Right, as in real-time annoyances.
[08:16] <owh> 'nother thing learnt ;-)
[08:20] <Flannel> owh: How do you know that it is
[08:20] <owh> Flannel: Watch this
[08:20] <Flannel> well, that's disappointing.
[08:20] <owh> Flannel: well now you know a bit more
[08:20] <dweez> owh: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[08:21] <Flannel> Ah.  owh now you know.
[08:21] <owh> ^
[08:21] <Flannel> meh
[08:21] <owh> Tah
[08:22] <bit_boy> Ben64, what deatails you need
[08:23] <Ben64> bit_boy: what you're trying to install, how you're trying to install, which version of ubuntu, what is giving that error
[08:24] <bit_boy> Ben64, command : pip install fabric
[08:25] <owh> bit_boy: That looks like a #python question to me.
[08:25] <TomyWork> hi. i'm behind a proxy and flashplugin-installer cant download its stuff
[08:26] <TomyWork> I set up the *_proxy variables in /etc/environment, set a .pac file in kde's proxy settings and configured apt via apt.conf.d. I've restarted since
[08:26] <TomyWork> this is on kubuntu 14.04
[08:27] <Beldar> TomyWork, It is the ubuntu repos, that is not all you will not get.
[08:27] <TomyWork> they're down?
[08:27] <TomyWork> but i downloaded stuff earlier
[08:27] <bit_boy> owh, I can't have access to #python showing #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[08:27] <Beldar> TomyWork, No if your erring with flash, you would be with anything else.
[08:27] <TomyWork> bit_boy register yourself with nickserv
[08:28] <TomyWork> Beldar not true
[08:28] <Beldar> oh okay
[08:28] <owh> TomyWork: It appears that you can set the proxy for wget in /etc/wgetrc.  I just joined and it's happy for me to do so.
[08:29] <Beldar> TomyWork, You are making your bed, and complaining?
[08:29] <TomyWork> i do what?
[08:30] <Beldar> TomyWork, it's a metaphor
[08:30] <TomyWork> yes and i dont get it
[08:30] <bit_boy> Ben64, kubuntu is the OS
[08:30] <Beldar> yeah I know, lo9l
[08:30] <Beldar> lol*
[08:31] <TomyWork> owh would that bug also apply to kdesu+wget?
[08:31] <owh> TomyWork: Dunno
[08:31] <TomyWork> or kdesudo or whatever the update notifier uses
[08:32] <jacobian> My compose key no longer works after upgrade to 14.04
[08:32] <jacobian> Anyone else experience this?
[08:32] <TomyWork> also, this bug seems to be old. much older than 14.04
[08:33] <owh> TomyWork: I looked for people with the same issue you described, a person with something that worked and others who agreed and sent that to you. I do not have personal knowledge about what exactly is causing your issue, but it seemed a safe bet given what you told us.
[08:34] <owh> bit_boy: It appears that all the errors that google throws up relating to the one you showed us are to do with missing dependencies. I do not know about your specific package, so I cannot be more precise than that.
[08:35] <TomyWork> ah i see
[08:35] <TomyWork> I'm gonna try some other stuff though, before being stuck with a 4th place to configure my proxy
[08:36] <owh> TomyWork: First I'd try it to see if it works and then go from there.
[08:37] <TomyWork> good point
[08:38] <TomyWork> looks like i cant wget the url it's trying to access, either
[08:38] <TomyWork> nope, it worked... just took a while
[08:39] <TomyWork> and now the installer worked too...
[08:40] <TomyWork> so no wgetrc needed. on the 5th attempt it decided to start working :)
[08:41] <TomyWork> thanks for the help, owh
[08:41] <owh> Cool
[08:42] <TomyWork> and Beldar, I am not in control of whether I have a proxy or not (I don't know why you would even make that assumption), nor am I in control of what flashplugin-installer decided to do or not, once I install it. I could of course uninstall it, but then I would have no flash plugin, right?
[08:43] <TomyWork> So either I am indeed not getting your metaphor or it makes no sense. Either way, the result is confusion.
[08:46] <k-joseph_> h guys, i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS for developement and i run heavy staffs, recently it began freezing and some times when i run heavy commands the cursor may stop moving and i have to sleep or reboot the system to continue, i wanted to add more swap space but am thinking that /dev/sda6    partition size: 4140028 used: 129451 -1, is just enough, what is the cause of such behavior!!!
[08:46] <mama999> Hallo, "slartibartfast": Whats the question, when 42 ist the answer?
[08:47] <Beldar> k-joseph_, you might set the swappiness lower
[08:48] <Krishnamurti> hi
[08:50] <k-joseph_> Beldar: how do i do that, any links!!!
[08:50] <Bongo> How do I use scp with emacs?
[08:51] <owh> Bongo: #emacs
[08:51] <owh> Bongo: Or if you're brave #vim
[08:52] <Bongo> haha
[08:52] <Bongo> thanks owh
[08:52] <Beldar> k-joseph, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness  this stuff is easily found on the web.
[08:52] <k-joseph> Beldar: thanks
[08:53] <Beldar> k-joseph, No problem.
[08:53] <mama999> What calendar do you prefer?
[08:53] <Beldar> !ot > mama999
[08:54] <salsero> empty calendar
[09:01] <alief> salam
[09:01] <alief> #surabaya
[09:01] <alief> #bali
[09:03] <Kaapa> hey there. I can enable natural scrolling for the trackpad in unity - can I also do the same for mouse pointers?
[09:03] <Kaapa> hum, external mouse, I meant
[09:03] <gry> mama999: I believe you can set the OS to display and sync to any calendar of choice (I simply don't know them)
[09:05] <Unknown0BC> Hi, I don't know much about joysticks and game controllers, but bought this really cheap one.
[09:06] <Unknown0BC> I thought I might regret it. Its a USB one.
[09:06] <afidegnum> hi, please I am having broken heart.     , mysql can't start after i did some performance tuning. here is the my.cnf configuration:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/7519891/                           and this is the error log I am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/7519875/
[09:07] <somsip> afidegnum: try #mysql
[09:08] <somsip> afidegnum: but unless you have lots of memory, you have your buffers set up wrong: 140526 10:46:01 [Note] InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 848.0G
[09:08] <Unknown0BC> I'm using jstest-gtk to check the sensitivity of the analog sticks on this game controller after being very annoyed at its sensitivity.
[09:08] <ouioui49> first time here. anybody from france?
[09:08] <alief> hy all
[09:08] <somsip> !ot | ouioui49
[09:08] <afidegnum> somsip: thanks, my I am having 32Gig of Ram
[09:09] <afidegnum> I thought the buffer will be saved into the harddisk
[09:09] <somsip> afidegnum: hence why it's failing to allocate 848GB of RAM. Why would you possible want to put 816GB of buffers into swap?
[09:09] <Unknown0BC> It seems this came controller has very dumb analog sticks, when you move them you see nothing happening then suddenly a jump. It has totally dead spots around the center and at the edges of the movement.
[09:11] <Unknown0BC> The actual movement detection of the sticks has a short range making this came controller very difficult to handle.
[09:11] <ouioui49> i have a problem with my packard bell easy note. sometimes, my screen freeze and next i have a black screen for a few seconds and it return to normal. sorry for my english
[09:11] <Unknown0BC> Its for small chinese hands ?
[09:12] <Unknown0BC> Anyone here experienced with game pads for ubuntu ?
[09:12] <somsip> !fr | ouioui49 (I can't help, but if you want to ask in French...)
[09:24] <diffen> Hello. Im planning on setting up a ubuntu cluster with atleast two machines in an active/passive cluster. My plan is to have them straight on the internet on two separate locations. Then let DNS send the users to the active server. Is this doable and are there anyone in here that might have some tips on what software to use?
[09:31] <bcao> 我又复活了
[09:31] <somsip> !zh | bcao
[09:37] <arnab> hello
[09:37] <arnab> I am using libre writer
[09:38] <arnab> I cut something on it but could never paste it
[09:38] <arnab> where can I ercover the text from?
[09:38] <arnab> recover*
[09:38] <arnab> can anyone tell me?
[09:39] <OerHeks> ctrl + z sometimes reverses the paste/cut command
[09:39] <OerHeks> = step back
[09:39] <arnab> after I cut i closed the document
[09:39] <arnab> would it still work?
[09:40] <gry> diffen: assuming you're using Ubuntu Server as people don't set up clusters with desktops: try #ubuntu-server please. I guess it's a "failover" kind of thing and DNS isn't really the driving force (see http://serverfault.com/questions/57755/free-dns-software-with-failover-support).
[09:40] <OerHeks> arnab, no, closing the program/document ends it.
[09:40] <arnab> how can i recover ot then?
[09:41] <arnab> this is really stupid
[09:41] <OerHeks> arnab, unless the paste is still under your mousbutton, but then you would have been able to paste it in a new document
[09:41] <Fuchs> gry: as I just see you here: could you have a look at d__, it is a  bot that is in several channels, uninvited. It replies to certain ! commands and might log as well. Thanks.
[09:41] <arnab> Its not getting pasted
[09:41] <gry> diffen: I think it would have to be a "load balancer" than a DNS kind of thing eventually.
[09:41] <arnab> can i get it on clipboard?
[09:41] <arnab> if yes how?
[09:41] <arnab> I was writing for months
[09:42] <somsip> arnab: if you don't have a clipboard installed that supports multiple clips, it will either be on CTRL-v or it's gone
[09:42] <OerHeks> arnab, if you installed clip-it or simular ( before cutting/pasting), you can check if it is still there
[09:42] <arnab> I did not install anything :(
[09:42] <arnab> thanks guys
[09:42] <arnab> I think its gone
[09:43] <OerHeks> then i think it is gone too :-(
[09:43] <damocles> bonjour
[09:43] <Ben64> arnab: don't cut, close the program without a backup, and expect everything to work out fine
[09:43] <damocles> hi
[09:43] <arnab> ok Ben64
[09:46] <damocles> somebody to help me ? i have a probleme to install my wifi broadcom BCM4313.
[09:46] <damocles> en francais peut etre ?
[09:47] <rww> ubottu: fr
[09:47] <damocles> ok no problem for english :)
[09:47] <damocles> i just ask
[09:48] <damocles>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:50] <humbag> !bcm | damocles
[10:09] <the_drow> Is there a way to run python scripts from a virtualenv using upstart?
[10:09] <ikonia> if it's physical or virtual should make no difference
[10:09] <ikonia> it's still the same binary install with the same init proces
[10:09] <ikonia> process
[10:11] <the_drow> ikonia: So if I workon myvirtualenv everything should be fine right? (as in it won't propogate to any other shell)
[10:12] <ikonia> the_drow: I have no idea what "myvirtualenv" is, if that's some sort of self contained python enviornment, then I don't see why it would be a problem, python is just files/directories
[10:12] <rww> ikonia: (virtualenv is a python thing and doesn't mean "inside a virtual machine")
[10:12] <the_drow> It affects the current shell
[10:12] <ikonia> rww: I have zero idea what it is
[10:13] <rww> and I have zero idea of how to wrangle upstart, so I guess we're both incapable of answering this one :P
[10:13] <the_drow> https://gist.github.com/swinton/1978897
[10:14] <ikonia> looks like virtualenv is just a sort of "chroot" setup, but just isolating python
[10:14] <the_drow> Is my global /etc/profile loaded on upstart scripts?
[10:14] <the_drow> ikonia: Kinda
[10:14] <ikonia> the_drow: you'd do better to set the env within the actual upstart job
[10:14] <somsip> the_drow: you would need to wrap the virtualenv bin/activate in a shell script called in the upstart script before calling the python script in the virtualenv
[10:14] <gry> the_drow: myvirtualenv does not propagate to other shells unless you add something to your bashrc.
[10:14] <ikonia> (from what I'm reading)
[10:15] <somsip> ikonia: it just prepends the virtualenv directory bin and libs to path, in a nutshell
[10:15] <the_drow> somsip: And what's suggested in the gist isn't ok?
[10:15] <ikonia> somsip: yes, that's how I'm reading it
[10:16] <ikonia> I personally don't see the point of this tool other than creating problems
[10:16] <ikonia> (reading the docs on it now)
[10:16] <somsip> the_drow: I have no idea about upstart but the script is not doing what I suggest from what I can tell
[10:16] <the_drow> ikonia: Because you're not a python dev
[10:17] <ikonia> the_drow: of course not, but from maintaining a system - this seems a very bad idea
[10:17] <the_drow> Why?
[10:17] <the_drow> each app has it's dependencies
[10:17] <rww> can we stick to support topics and not "i have no idea what this is but it's bad", please?
[10:17] <the_drow> pl
[10:17] <the_drow> ok
[10:17] <ikonia> rww: I don't think it's unreasonable to raise a concern
[10:18] <ikonia> more so when you're trying to call this as an init process
[10:18] <rww> ikonia: I do, considering you have no idea what you're talking about and our usual recommendation for helpers in that situation is to leave the question to somebody else.
[10:18] <ikonia> rww: I'm pretty sure I do have an idea what I'm talking about
[10:18] <rww> ikonia: You literally didn't know what virtualenv was until I pointed it out. So no, you don't.
[10:18] <rww> Now. Back to support.
[10:19] <ikonia> rww: actually - I did, however I've never used it personally, but reading the docs on it from the offical site, it appears to be an unwise move
[10:19] <the_drow> Ok, so I need a different script that will run workon right? (I'm using virtualenvwrapper)
[10:19] <the_drow> Or should I use bin/activate directly?
[10:20] <somsip> the_drow: plenty of possibly helpful information on a search, example: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14823001/why-cant-upstart-run-source-bin-activate
[10:20] <gry> Directly I believe.
[10:20] <the_drow> Where is the most sensible place to place the script? /usr/local/sbin?
[10:26] <user123321> The environments variables I have exported seem to be gone, what would have happened?
[10:26] <gry> Odds are you closed the bash session, so they're gone in the new one.
[10:27] <user123321> How to make them persistent?
[10:27] <JerryP> Anyone have a recommendation on how to use google drive on ubuntu? I mounted it as a drive, but it was going really slow (even loading a directory list of a few files) and I imagine that wont work offline. Thanks!
[10:27] <gry> You have to use bashrc I believe.
[10:27] <user123321> Aha.
[10:27] <jrib> user123321: what environment variables are you setting?
[10:28] <gry> JerryP: See http://askubuntu.com/questions/161273/is-there-a-google-drive-client-available but it is unsupported, as it is a PPA - PPAs are maintained by volunteers, and if they did not package their thing into main repositories, it should tell you something about quality.
[10:30] <user123321> jrib, for example, ant home.
[10:30] <user123321> I just read about setting them in etc/profile.d/ ?
[10:36] <jrib> user123321: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables this is the best way
[10:38] <the_drow> How do I set the upstart service status to failed if a file doesn't exist?
[10:38] <the_drow> Oh, just use exit right
[10:45] <jimcha> hello
[10:47] <jnhghy> how can I install libstdc++ 32bit on ubuntu 12.04
[10:47] <jnhghy> ?
[10:48] <maris`> use apt-get
[10:48] <jimcha> ela re giorgo
[10:49] <gtitakis> ela re
[10:49] <jimcha> ti kaneis?
[10:49] <gtitakis> kala re file
[10:49] <jimcha> re mlka
[10:49] <jimcha> giati gamiountai toso edw
[10:49] <gtitakis> den 3erw re
[10:49] <Sohron> jnhghy: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6:i386
[10:49] <rww> gtitakis, jimcha: cut it out.
[10:50] <jimcha> what?
[10:50] <gtitakis> rww nte gamhsou
[10:50] <gtitakis> {sign}?{digit}+{dot}{digit}*{exp}?   |
[10:50] <gtitakis> {sign}?{digit}*{dot}{digit}+{exp}?   {printf("token CONST_REAL:\t\t"); return TK_FLOAT; }
[10:50] <jimcha> thankx
[10:50]  * rww sighs
[10:51] <Ben64> !gr | gtitakis & jimcha
[10:52] <rww> ah, romanized greek. i always forget about that one.
[10:52] <jimcha> re sy ubottu, mipws ksereis
[10:52] <jimcha> pws na kanoume private
[10:52] <jimcha> chat ?
[10:52] <jimcha> na min grafoume edw..
[10:52] <rww> jimcha: #ubuntu is a technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux, in English only. Please speak English here. Use #ubuntu-gr for Greek Ubuntu discussion. Thanks.
[10:53] <Ben64> jimcha: να σταματήσει. το κανάλι αυτό είναι μόνο στην αγγλική γλώσσα.
[10:53] <jimcha> do u know how can i make a private chat here?
[10:53] <Ben64> /privmsg
[10:53] <jimcha> thankx
[10:54] <Sohron> or just /msg user
[10:55] <Sohron> Ben64: /privmsg doesn't work with irssi it seems, /msg does
[10:56] <gtitakis> fhsodf
[10:59] <jimcha> er
[10:59] <jimcha> er
[10:59] <jimcha> re
[10:59] <jimcha> re
[10:59] <jimcha> re
[10:59] <jimcha> re
[10:59] <jimcha> re
[10:59] <unopaste> jimcha you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:59]  * rww sighs
[11:00] <the_drow> I created circus.conf under /etc/init/ but sudo service circus status says that the service is not recognized
[11:00] <tarnea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7520593/
[11:00] <tarnea> any idea to solve this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7520593/'
[11:01] <tarnea> my apt is broken
[11:01] <tarnea> unable to install anything
[11:01] <tarnea> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libwx-perl:  libwx-perl depends on perlapi-5.10.1
[11:01] <the_drow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7520594/ - here is the upstart configuration
[11:01] <the_drow> tarnea: apt-get -f...
[11:01] <the_drow> tarnea: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33949/how-to-repair-apt-get-command
[11:01] <tarnea> thanks, let me check
[11:02] <tarnea> the drow: i tried those already
[11:03] <tarnea> any other idea?
[11:03] <the_drow> tarnea: that should help
[11:03] <tarnea> even the first command given there
[11:03] <tarnea> sudo apt-get -f install
[11:03] <tarnea> did not work
[11:04] <the_drow> does not work doesn't mean anything
[11:04] <the_drow> please provide a log
[11:04] <jimcha21> gtitakis
[11:04] <siva> hi
[11:04] <tarnea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7520621/
[11:04] <siva> hiii
[11:04] <ts14ic> Greetings to everyone : ) . Can I ask a short question about zim wiki here?
[11:04] <siva> llllllllll
[11:05] <siva> jjjjjjjjjjjj
[11:05] <hacker> yesko na vaskodigama
[11:05] <Ben64> siva: stop that
[11:05] <siva> gusa gusa
[11:05] <the_drow> tarnea: no idea sorry
[11:05] <Guest12966> vongobey vatam
[11:05] <tarnea> some package called libwx-perl is not getting removed
[11:05] <tarnea> that is the problem
[11:06] <tarnea> any way thanks for trying the_drow :)
[11:06] <Guest12966> tarnea : entey vagutunnav?
[11:06] <Aaruni> guys, gnome-screenshot doesn't reflect the settings to save the screenshot from dconf. help ?
[11:06] <k1l> !english | Guest12966
[11:07] <jimcha21> a
 can't get you
[11:07] <k1l> jimcha21: stop that. please keep this channel free fro ubuntu support. thanks
[11:08] <gtitakis> ELA
[11:08] <yitz_> Heya. Trying to get a 30" monitor to work with my laptop. (mini display port->HDMI.) X11/xrandr is only showing one mode for the monitor: 1280x800. Specs says it's 2560x1600. I used cvt to get a modeline. Used xrandr to create the new mode and add..
[11:08] <yitz_> ... it to the output. Trying to switch modes, I get:
[11:08] <yitz_> $ xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 2560x1600
[11:08] <yitz_> xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed
[11:09] <woshty> You can not do more that 1920x1080 over single link dvi/ hdmi <1.4
[11:10] <yitz_> o.o How's someone supposed to drive a 2560x1600 monitor that only got HDMI inputs (3 of 'em) from a single computer?
[11:11] <Yogesh> hi..
[11:12] <woshty> Usually those monitors also have display port ports, and newest hdmi can do higher resolutions - but I have run into issues setting proper refresh rates
[11:13] <Aaruni> repost1 : guys, gnome-screenshot doesn't reflect the settings to save the screenshot from dconf. help ?
[11:14] <Yogesh> hey guys How I Create account Irc
[11:14] <yitz_> This is the HP LP3065. 3 HDMI inputs and nothing else
[11:14] <rww> !register
[11:19] <SamuraiAlba> YAY! LAMP with ISPCONFIG3 :)
[11:20]  * SamuraiAlba shimmies across the dance floor
[11:38] <Aaruni> repost2 : guys, gnome-screenshot doesn't reflect the settings to save the screenshot from dconf. help ?
[11:40] <fabio_> Hi
[11:41] <bass___> hello
[11:43] <ubuntu1>  /budus macro setup
[11:44] <ubuntu1> adobe reader
[11:48] <KGM70> o/
[11:51] <bibi234> Hello, I have some CSV files, I'm getting them from a provider. I use them to populate my database, they're getting updated from time to time so I have to pull them every X days in order to "refresh" my data. Until now I've done this setup myself and it's not very clean. Today, I might have  a second provider for my data, I'd need to aggregate them. I'd like to know what are the recommanded...
[11:51] <bibi234> ..."techniques" for those integrations? I'm not looking for any particular tool, but some tutorials about the concept.
[12:00] <dacobi> how do I change nick color?
[12:01] <Fuchs> dacobi: depends on your client
[12:01] <dacobi> in xchat?
[12:01] <Guest81844> hi guys, i cant manage to update my system (ubuntu 12.04 with gnome) everything fine up to last update. followed various wikis, tried many different ways, last one "sudo apt-get -f install" and i get this errors /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-3.2.0-63_3.2.0-63.95_all.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-3.2.0-63-generic-pae_3.2.0-63.95_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:01] <Guest81844> thank you
[12:03] <Fuchs> dacobi: seems to be hardcoded
[12:03] <Fuchs> at least that is what I find in the source
[12:03] <dacobi> are there any linux client that has that feature?
[12:03] <Fuchs> https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/blob/9c49254abd59b8e3f4ecf2be7477dd62bf399296/src/common/text.c#L2006
[12:03] <Fuchs> dacobi: konversation  can do custom nick colours, yes
[12:04] <Fuchs> (well, fsvo, you can't assign it to specific nicks, but you can configure which colours you want)
[12:04] <Fuchs> irssi and weechat can do it as well, note that these are CLI clients, though
[12:05] <Guest81844> hello?
[12:05] <yitz_> Hi?
[12:06] <dacobi> on some webirc servers the nick can have colors. How does that work?
[12:06] <brianblaze420> good morning
[12:06] <dacobi> I mean if its the client that sets the colors
[12:06] <Guest81844> yitz, i cant manage to update my system (ubuntu 12.04 with gnome) everything fine up to last update. followed various wikis, tried many different ways, last one "sudo apt-get -f install" and i get this errors /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-3.2.0-63_3.2.0-63.95_all.deb  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-3.2.0-63-generic-pae_3.2.0-63.95_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:06] <dacobi> is there a stander?
[12:06] <krypto> hi i am looking for some old xen kernels 10.10/11.* from where i can download that http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ is not having those distros
[12:06] <dacobi> *standart
[12:07] <yitz_> Guest81844: Try deleting those files, doing an update and trying again
[12:07] <Fuchs> dacobi: it is up to your client how to display the nick
[12:07] <Guest81844> yitz, i did mv list list.old in /var/ but nothing
[12:08] <Fuchs> dacobi: e.g. if you set me to red, that is only visible in your client, not for anybody else
[12:08] <Guest81844> yitz, *lists
[12:08] <Fuchs> dacobi: text can have colours and there is a pseudo standard for it, invented by the horrible mIRC client, which most clients these day do understand. Fortunately most channels block these colours, though.
[12:08] <yitz_> Guest81844: Erm. When did list come up? delete the files that it complained about
[12:09] <Guest81844> yitz, ok, will do in a min and brb
[12:10] <Guest81844> yitz, files deleted, redone "apt-get -f install" it says no space on device, but i do have over 1 GB... i dont get it
[12:11] <yitz_> Guest81844: Did you do the apt-get update, too?
[12:11] <dacobi> Fuchs: So if a webIRC server has nick colors that would be a server specific feature?
[12:12] <Fuchs> no, a feature of the webclient
[12:12] <Guest81844> yitz, the update returns no error...
[12:12] <Guest81844> yitz, i'll log-out and in again, let's see...
[12:20] <guest19283> yitz, ubuntu software center says it is broken, it tries to fix it without succeeding and this is its output http://bpaste.net/show/yjsYspfVJkcIyycGGdFW/
[12:21] <guest19283> yitz_, ubuntu software center says it is broken, it tries to fix it without succeeding and this is its output http://bpaste.net/show/yjsYspfVJkcIyycGGdFW/
[12:23] <anonymous_> hi
[12:24] <anonymous_> hi all
[12:24] <jellow> guest19283, you need to clear some space
[12:24] <guest19283> jellow, ive got over 1gb free, i read that, but, over 1gb...
[12:26] <bananabob> Hey! Is there any issues of having duplicate entries in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist files?
[12:26] <Ilyes512> 	 Hey guys... any reason why I should use sudo /sbin/mkswap instead of just sudo mkswap?
[12:27] <Ilyes512> I am using the last but I also came across the /sbin/... version. Any benefits of specifing sbin?
[12:28] <guest19283> jellow, do u think i need more?
[12:29] <jellow> guest19283, is everything in one partition have you checked each to see if none are full ?
[12:29] <jellow> guest19283, 1gb to me sounds like plenty
[12:30] <guest19283> jellow, everything on the filesystem partition, and 1gb for some updates sounds a lot
[12:32] <jellow> guest19283, suppose you've tried apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get install -f ? not the foggiest as to what is wrong perhaps some one else will.
[12:33] <Aremis> Hello
[12:33] <Aremis> jellow he wouldn't need to do && he could just use pipes
[12:36] <guest19283> Artemis, output says "Broken Pipe"
[12:36] <guest19283> yitz, same error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:37] <khax> ubuntu doesnt load up
[12:37] <Mozak> hiii
[12:37] <Mozak>  ineed ua help
[12:37] <Pessimist> !ask | Mozak
[12:37] <khax> black screen, i have to restart pc once before it load up. help me pls
[12:37] <Aremis> To get proper help, use proper english.
[12:37] <Aremis> Teehee
[12:38] <Mozak> okk
[12:38] <khax> anyone have any idea why
[12:38] <khax> ?
[12:38] <Reptilia> I've asked the same question yesterday, but i got only one answer / possible reasons for the problem. The problem is, i've noticed a major drop in performance, after i've switched from Xubuntu 13.10 to 14.04. Although i am using a relatively old laptop, HP Compaq nx 8220, it was performing well, and that's why i liked Xubuntu. But, that's not the case anymore. Browsing is slow, i noticed a major drop in frame rate, applications are opening slower, everyt
[12:38] <Reptilia> hing seems laggy, etc. Lots of people say that they're suspecting the video driver, according to what i've red on the net. I am using ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Yesterday, someone told me that fglrx is not supported for this video card, and i am stuck with the open source drivers. Any ideas / recommendations? Thanks in advance.
[12:38] <khax> my ubuntu 12.04 doesnt load up when pc is load first time (black screen after bios load), i haveto restart my pc to get it load . pls help
[12:46] <Reptilia> I've asked the same question yesterday, but i got only one answer / possible reasons for the problem. The problem is, i've noticed a major drop in performance, after i've switched from Xubuntu 13.10 to 14.04. Although i am using a relatively old laptop, HP Compaq nx 8220, it was performing well, and that's why i liked Xubuntu. But, that's not the case anymore. Browsing is slow, i noticed a major drop in frame rate, applications are opening slower, everyt
[12:46] <Reptilia> hing seems laggy, etc. Lots of people say that they're suspecting the video driver, according to what i've red on the net. I am using ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Yesterday, someone told me that fglrx is not supported for this video card, and i am stuck with the open source drivers. Any ideas / recommendations? Thanks in advance.
[12:47] <bgill> I upgraded my hp mini laptop to 14.04 and now the touchpad isn't detected at all. Is there amodule I need to load or a package I need to install? Using an external mouse for now but it's a poor solution
[12:47] <bgill> using xubuntu if it matters
[12:47] <bgill> worked fine under 13.x
[12:50] <Reptilia> bgill:I used to have a perfect experience with 13.10, but 14.04, it's so bad.
[12:51] <the_drow> Can anyone tell me why this upstart configuration isn't working? http://pastebin.com/p1d5tGDX
[12:52] <Mozak> hi
[12:53] <jose__> hola
[12:53] <TJ-> the_drow: The "exec" statement ends with "&" backgrounding operator; is that really correct?
[12:54] <the_drow> TJ-: It was an experiment
[12:54] <jose__> alguien que hable español
[12:54] <the_drow> I removed it and the service is still at the stop/waiting status
[12:54] <the_drow> It starts but then goes down and respawns until upstart kills it
[12:54] <Mozak> how do i get ubuntu ambian theme in xubuntu?
[12:54] <TJ-> the_drow: does the daemon being writing to its own log files? Does it fail to start, fail to stop, or what?
[12:55] <TJ-> !es | jose__
[12:55] <the_drow> TJ-: The deamon is being killed
[12:55] <coolcat> a
[12:55] <jose__> gracias ubottu
[12:56] <TJ-> the_drow: does the daemon start if you run it manually
[12:58] <Reptilia> I've asked the same question yesterday, but i got only one answer / possible reasons for the problem. The problem is, i've noticed a major drop in performance, after i've switched from Xubuntu 13.10 to 14.04. Although i am using a relatively old laptop, HP Compaq nx 8220, it was performing well, and that's why i liked Xubuntu. But, that's not the case anymore. Browsing is slow, i noticed a major drop in frame rate, applications are opening slower, everyt
[12:58] <Reptilia> hing seems laggy, etc. Lots of people say that they're suspecting the video driver, according to what i've red on the net. I am using ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Yesterday, someone told me that fglrx is not supported for this video card, and i am stuck with the open source drivers. Any ideas / recommendations? Thanks in advance.
[12:59] <the_drow> TJ-: It seems that the problem is pyenv
[13:00] <the_drow> TJ-: How do I load the /etc/profile on upstart?
[13:00] <the_drow> do I have to source it?
[13:01] <Pessimist> Reptilia: maybe you aren't running the free driver ? what's the output of glxinfo (you might have to install mesa-utils iirc)?
[13:04] <Reptilia> Pessimist:Just a second, sorry for the delayed response.
[13:05] <Reptilia> Do i have to install "mesa-utils" or "mesa-utils iirc" ?
[13:08] <TJ-> the_drow: I don't use python for system daemons so I can't help you there
[13:08] <the_drow> TJ-: The problem is with .profile not being loaded
[13:09] <the_drow> If I exec from sh -l will my script be loaded with my /etc/profile file
[13:09] <the_drow> Probably no?
[13:10] <TJ-> the_drow: see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#job-environment
[13:10] <Reptilia> What is the difference between "mesa-utils" and "meta-utils iirc"?
[13:11] <Reptilia> What is the difference between "mesa-utils" and "mesa-utils iirc"?*
[13:11] <trndr> Reptilia, IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
[13:12] <Reptilia> trndr:... :D
[13:12] <Reptilia> thanks
[13:12] <psih0man> hello! I installed ubuntu server 14.04 and it seems to be using systemd. however I can't find the systemctl utility. where is it?
[13:12] <KGM70> Reptilia, there is no mesa-utils iirc , it's just mesa-utils
[13:13] <Reptilia> KGM70:Yeah, it turns out it was an abbreviation, but i did not know :D
[13:13] <KGM70> yeah
[13:15] <Reptilia> Pessimist:Should i pastebin the output of the glxinfo command?
[13:15] <Pessimist> Reptilia: yes. Iirc = if I recall correctly
[13:17] <Reptilia> Pessimist:http://pastebin.com/vWpFYTin
[13:19] <lucido> how can I detect if the screen is off?
[13:19] <lucido> on a desktop 14.04
[13:19] <Pessimist> lucido: run xrandr from the terminal and check the output
[13:20] <lucido> Pessimist, as root?
[13:20] <Pessimist> lucido: no... why?
[13:20] <lucido> jasking
[13:21] <jakewc2> hi, I have just had an update on 12.04, and restarted the machine and there is no wireless connection seen for my router. It sees every other persons wireless but not mine. So I dont think the wireless board is  broken. I have other machines that I'm using the wireless connection ok
[13:22] <jakewc2> is there any way to reinstall the wireless board, to see if it will work, or is there anything I can do to get the wireless to work
[13:23] <TJ-> jakewc2: Check which radio channel the router is currently on, and which regulatory zone the PC's wifi is currently in. It's possible the router is operating on say channel 13, but the PC is limited to only channels 1-11
[13:23] <jakewc2>  but it worked before the update, but I will check, how do I check what channels the laptop works on
[13:24] <jakewc2> I can use the terminal, if shown the commands
[13:25] <TJ-> jakewc2: Take a look at "/var/log/dmesg"; or check the ongoing kernel log with "grep cfg80211 /var/log/kern.log"
[13:25] <jakewc2> ok, will try that
[13:26] <knob> Hello everyone.   Last night I was adviced against using usermod to add a user to a group.    Yet I didn't write down the command to do it the other way (not using useradd)
[13:26] <knob> Anybody know what I Can use?
[13:26] <TJ-> jakewc2: Also, do "iw list" and look at the list of channels under "Frequencies"
[13:27] <nickname2> how do you "follow" underscored links in manpages?
[13:27] <TJ-> jakewc2: This all presumes regulatory zoning is the issue; check with the router as to which channel it is operating on currently
[13:27] <Reptilia> Pessimist: http://pastebin.com/vWpFYTin
[13:29] <arlekin> hello there
[13:30] <arlekin> anyone here could give me opinion about ubuntu phone ?
[13:31] <Pessimist> Reptilia: I know, you are running the free drivers and they should be good enough. Maybe something else is broken in your system, dunno. old proprietary drivers for ati gpus are notorious for bad 2d performance so you should be getting a much better experience in firefox and other simple applications
[13:31] <jakewc2> ok, the iw list showed 1 tp 14 works and in the wireless section on the router it only has 1 to 13, so will go try change a channel see what happens there
[13:31] <jakewc2> brb
[13:32] <TJ-> jakewc2: If the PC can handle more than the router, then regulatory zoning isn't the issue.
[13:33] <jakewc2> ah, that worked, i was channel 13 changed it to channel 9 and the wireless settings sees the router, now why would it work before the updates and not after the updates, thank you so much, that was a really big help
[13:33] <Reptilia> Pessimist:What bugs me is, what is the difference between 13.10 and 14.04, because i used to have an excellent performance in 13.10. Thanks btw.
[13:33] <Reptilia> Pessimist:Afk, 15 mins
[13:34] <TJ-> jakewc2: Regulatory Zones are to prevent radio interference on channels used by other non-Wifi services; The Wireless Access Point chooses a channel; the PC clients simply search for the Access Point on all the channels they are allowed to based on their Regulatory Zone. So if your PC can scan 1-14 then it should see channel 13, if that is where the Access Point is operating.
[13:34] <jakewc2> speaking to you from the wireless instead of ethernet cable
[13:35] <jakewc2> brilliant
[13:36] <TJ-> jakewc2: As you're in the UK, channels 1-13 are the legal zone
[13:38] <GG111> quit
[13:40] <IamEld3st> hi
[13:41] <IamEld3st> guys can any of you look on this site and tell me if it loads apache default page for you?
[13:42] <IamEld3st> www.iameld3stovo.tk
[13:43] <yyijoih> PLEASE help me with that , anyone knows how to open Gnumeric file in windows ??? i create the file in ubuntu long ago and am not using ubuntu now ..??
[13:43] <IamEld3st> use virtualbox
[13:44] <IamEld3st> or put ubuntu os on usb boot into live and do what you want
[13:44] <flosch> i
[13:44] <trijntje> yyijoih: http://www.gnumeric.org/download.html
 thanks i appreciate , i didn't know there is a windows version :) so thanks
[13:47] <trijntje> yyijoih: no problem, lots of 'linux' software also release a windows version
[13:50] <weebee> power-commands from atareao ppa do not work on ubuntu 14.04. While logout, lock and kill applications work just fine, the shutdown and restart applications do not respond at all. Is there any known fix for this (v0.16)?
[13:52] <qstrahl> How can I get my touchpad settings (eg. three-finger-tap = middle-click) to persist after suspend/resume/logout/etc in 14.04?
[13:53] <lucido> how can I check if a particular user has been inactive for let's say 5 minutes and how can I tell if there is a movie playing (youtube or otherwise)?
[13:53] <lucido> I'm trying to improve kidtimer
[13:59] <flip> noob here, need a bit of help.
[14:00] <flip> anyone here?
[14:00] <flip> Is there a different channel I should use?
[14:01] <somsip_> !ask | flip
[14:01] <flip> I need help finding the ndiswrapper gui
[14:02] <SonicPenguin> !patience
[14:02] <markleeve> Hi, has anyone managed to install LLVM+Clang before?
[14:02] <trijntje> flip: have you searched the software center? It should be listed there apt://ndisgtk
[14:03] <flip> i tried that. nothing shows up. the app center tells me i have it installed, but nothing comes when i search for it.
[14:04] <flip> I open ndisgtk and all I get is a text document
[14:05] <trijntje> flip: btw, why do you need ndiswrapper?
[14:05] <flip> installing a wireless adapter
[14:05] <TJ-> flip: "sudo /usr/sbin/ndisgtk"
[14:05] <trijntje> flip: which wireless adapter? ndiswrapper is the least recommended way to get wireless working
[14:06] <flip> TJ got it. My adapter is the Netgear WNA3100. It seems that this is the route everyone has to take with this particular adapter
[14:09] <Guest48751> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[14:10] <flip> any more thoughts? My reserach made it seem like a foregone conclusion to use ndiswrapper.
[14:10] <miz> Would any of you recommend that I upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS? Just curious because I really new in-window menu options.
[14:16] <miz> So do any of you think their will be any problems upgrading to 14.04?
[14:17] <lucido> miz, no
[14:17] <miz> thanks lucido
[14:17] <lucido> ohw the hell can a script tell if my screen is blanked?
[14:19] <ISmithers> What is the best way for me to connect my linux system to a NAS on my lan? It has CIFS/AFP and NFS file services enabled at the moment however I can see it, but not connect/browse it at all.
[14:21] <lnxslck> ISmithers, mount it through nfs
[14:22] <ISmithers> lnxslck: Do I need to mount each folder I've shared? I don't really know how NFS works, seems pretty manual compared to other services.
[14:22] <digi0ps> Hey. A problem with my Ubuntu. Everytime I shutdown my computer ( whether Graphically or through  commandline ) it shutdown and restarts itself. Its just few days since I installed this. But this is happening everytime. Anyone help please.
[14:22] <lnxslck> ISmithers, do something like: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS> /media/NFS
[14:23] <ISmithers> On the server-side I assume I have to set NFS permissions to the shares lnxslck?
[14:23] <lnxslck> digi0ps, what new software did you installed ?
[14:23] <flip> I just installed my wna3100 wireless adapter using ndiswrapper, and everything looks fine, but it won't connect to my wifi. It continues to ask for my password.
[14:23] <lnxslck> ISmithers, om the server side, activate NFS share, get the ip and it should be good
[14:24] <lnxslck> flip, wrong password?
[14:24] <digi0ps> lnxslck, i didnt install anything new. it was behaving like this from the first!
[14:24] <lnxslck> digi0ps, what about in a console as root: poweroff ?
[14:25] <digi0ps> lnxslck, I didnt try the poweroff command. but i did using the shutdown command but the same reboot happens.
[14:25] <lnxslck> digi0ps, try poweroff
[14:26] <digi0ps> lnxslck, okay i will try now.
[14:27] <flip> I just installed my wna3100 wireless adapter using ndiswrapper, and everything looks fine, but it won't connect to my wifi. It continues to ask for my password.
[14:27] <lnxslck> flip, wrong password?
[14:27] <flip> nope.
[14:32] <nickname2> where is the trash?
[14:33] <ISmithers> Thanks lnxslck - so basically I do need to mount each file-share is what you are saying? It's different from Windows/OSX where I can see the device and select it to open and browse it's filesystem that I have permissions for?
[14:33] <flip> nickname, bottom left corner
[14:33] <DJones> !trash | nickname2
[14:33] <trndr> flip, try changing the router settings to only use b/g
[14:33] <lnxslck> ISmithers, no, you can mount the entire nas drive
[14:34] <lnxslck> ISmithers, so you get like one directory with everything on it
[14:34] <ISmithers> Oh OK lnxslck
[14:34] <ISmithers> Hmm.
[14:34] <flip> tmdr, what will that do?
[14:35] <enkindle> I'm trying to set up a server with two nics to do something simple (at least i assume this is simple)... I want all default traffic via eth0 and then all local traffic via eth1. Anyone know of a writeup on this?
[14:36] <trndr> flip, N can cause problems especially with doggy drivers.
[14:36] <Sohron> enkindle: connect eth1 to lan router
[14:36] <flip> Thanks. But won't that slow down my connection?
[14:36] <the_drow> What uids are safe to assign?
[14:36] <enkindle> Sohron, its all going to be via one switch.
[14:36] <Sohron> enkindle: connect eth0 to somewhere which has straight internet access
[14:37] <Sohron> enkindle: ah okay
[14:37] <Sohron> the_drow: cat /etc/passwd
[14:37] <Sohron> the_drow: usually on ubuntu uids start at 1001
[14:37] <trndr> flip, only if you have a connection ;) So the question is if you want 54 Mb/s or 0
[14:37] <Sohron> for normal users
[14:38] <flip> true, but I'd rather not slow down the other computers in the house!
[14:38] <the_drow> Sohron: 99999 will work right?
[14:38] <flip> if i can help it.
[14:38] <Sohron> the_drow: maybe not
[14:38] <the_drow> Sohron: Let's see if you get the inglorious bastards reference
[14:39] <Sohron> the_drow: i don't remember the exact limit of uids on linux
[14:39] <TJ-> flip: Check "/var/log/syslog" for clues as to why it fails to connect
[14:39] <the_drow> Sohron: so what's safe to assume that will work and will not be overriden (given that we won't have a million users on the machine)
[14:39] <trndr> flip, fair enugh, but you could test it, if that does the trick then you know.
[14:40] <the_drow> Sohron: No guesses? Well http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DInsspuvAmBs&ei=OFKDU-XLF6je7Aa3h4GoCw&usg=AFQjCNGeJOYwZnZ7a1qcq5ZJWDve4RNkRA&bvm=bv.67720277,d.ZGU
[14:40] <flip> thanks, tmdr, I'll give it a try. Tj, what am I looking for? I have the log pulled up.
[14:41] <TJ-> flip: You should be able to recognise a series of reports as the WAP and client establish a connection, and then (via wpa_supplicant) try to negotiate the secure connection
[14:41] <Sohron> the_drow: well good for you :)
[14:42] <the_drow> Easy to remember
[14:42] <the_drow> and it works
[14:43] <maaruks> Does AMD graphics card driver work in ubuntu 14.04 ? I have got FirePro card and I can't get it to work with Trusty Tahr.
[14:43] <Sohron> the_drow: so why are you asking silly questions if you can google it yourself
[14:43] <TJ-> the_drow: see "/etc/adduser.conf and "LAST_UID" and "LAST_GID"
[14:44] <Sohron> the_drow: and /etc/login.defs
[14:45] <ichat> maaruks:  there are about a milion diferent  cards that have been release under the  firepro flag,    the only think to say is, try the prop drivers and see for yourself.
[14:45] <lnxslck> maaruks, it should work
[14:46] <the_drow> TJ-: hmm 29999 is the limit and 99999 works
[14:48] <flip> TJ, the supplicant says "WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect" but I know the key is right
[14:49] <TJ-> flip: then maybe the driver doesn't support the same encryption scheme as the WAP
[14:50] <TJ-> flip: in these cases the usual approach is to put the/a WAP in open mode and ensure you can connect to it, then progressively increase its security settings and keep connecting... WEP, WPA, WPA2-PSK, etc. If one fails, you know there's a driver-support issue
[14:51] <flip> Ok, thanks, TJ. I'll give that a go.
[15:00] <systom404> can anyone confirm if ubuntu for acer c7 chromebook is all singing all dancing fully working with 0 issues ?
[15:01] <ki7mt> 0 issues .. that's asking a bit much.
[15:02] <OerHeks> systom404, there is chrUbuntu for those machines > http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.nl/
[15:02] <arun_> is it possible to install a amd64.deb file in 32-bit OS ?
[15:02] <OerHeks> arun_,  no
[15:02] <compdoc> dont think so
[15:03] <ISmithers> Is there a way to tell if the mount command has succeeded?
[15:03] <compdoc> if you have a 64bit cpu, you should be using the 64bit version
[15:03] <OerHeks> ISmithers, you can check with the same 'mount' command
[15:03] <IdleOne> ISmithers: check in /mnt and see if what you mounted is there?
[15:04] <IdleOne> or run mount by itself and see
[15:04] <ISmithers> Is /mnt the default location for all mounted volumes?
[15:04] <arun_> how can I compile a source to 32-bit .deb in 64 bit OS
[15:04] <IdleOne> yes
[15:04] <jrib> ISmithers: did you get an error?
[15:04] <ki7mt> mount && echo $?  ... you should also see all the devices that mounted.
[15:04] <ISmithers> No
[15:04] <jrib> ISmithers: if it didn't fail, then it succeeded
[15:04] <IdleOne> ISmithers: generally in linux no errors means it was successful
[15:05] <ISmithers> Ah OK :)
[15:05] <ki7mt> Indeed, it it fails you normally get all sorts of nasty grams :-)
[15:05] <ki7mt> if it .. ..
[15:05] <llutz> ISmithers: mount bla || echo "yes, an error occured"
[15:06] <sydney> How do i install the cinimon desktop in ubuntu?
[15:06] <ISmithers> OK thanks guys :>
[15:06] <ISmithers> Appreciate the helps!
[15:06] <arun_> hello guys
[15:06] <CarlFK> how can I track down what gets run when I press my audio volume +/- buttons?
[15:06] <weebee> power-commands from atareao ppa do not work on ubuntu 14.04. While logout, lock and kill applications work just fine, the shutdown and restart applications do not respond at all. Is there any known fix for this (v0.16)?
[15:06] <arun_> OerHeks: how can I compile a source to 32-bit .deb in 64 bit OS
[15:08] <ki7mt> use debootstrap, debuild / pbuilder
[15:08] <digi0ps> lnxslck, that didnt work too.
[15:09] <arun_> ki7mt: are u saying me?
[15:09] <ki7mt> arun_, yeah, be prepared for some reading though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[15:11] <lnxslck> digi0ps, what ?
[15:11] <ki7mt> I build 32bit apps on 64bit all the time for packaging, same fer 64 on 32 .. does not mean they will run on the opposite though.
[15:11] <digi0ps> poweroff command still results in rebooting.
[15:11] <lnxslck> digi0ps, that's weird
[15:12] <lnxslck> maybe some kernel issue
[15:12] <lnxslck> not sure
[15:12] <ISmithers> If my /etc/exports has something like: /volume1    *(... lots of flags ...) - does the asterisk mean any host may connect?
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> morning/afternoon/evening
[15:13] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted "greetings" covers all instances ... :)
[15:13] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone tell me how to auto-mount some NFS shares when I log in? i tried adding mount -a to rc.local but that didn't work
[15:13] <sydney> Anyone?
[15:14] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: log in or boot?  (boot is easy: /etc/fstab)
[15:14] <ki7mt> arun_, you'll need to install package-dev, then  ;  sudo pbuilder --create --architecture i386 ; then ; sudo pbuilder --build <packagename.dsc>
[15:14] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, either or, i've already added them to my fstab and they're not getting auto mounted even with the auto option
[15:15] <llutz> ISmithers: "man exports|less -p anonymous"
[15:15] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: mine do ;).  I would focus on fixing that.
[15:17] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: my fstab line: <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/carl /home/pi/mnt/cw1      nfs     soft,auto,user,defaults 0
[15:17] <arun_> ki7mt: are u saying me for dependencies?
[15:17] <arun_> package-dev.... ?
[15:17] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: severs exports: /home/carl	<IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,insecure)
[15:18] <enkindle> Sohron, simplest solution to my dual nic\local network issue was to just put the second nics on a different subnet, and it just works
[15:18] <zacktu> I'm using the instructions for openvpn at help.ubuntu.com/serverguide/openvpn.html and have set up a server.  When I try to start the server I get the message "May 26 14:55:10 localhost ovpn-server[6821]: TCP/UDP: Socket bind failed on local address [undef]: Address already in use"  What's wrong?
[15:18] <Sohron> enkindle: good :)
[15:18] <ki7mt> arun_, sri that's: packaging-dev not package-dev ... yeah, the dsc file  has the build deps in the control file
[15:18] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: setup the files, then use "sudo mount foo" and see if it gives any errors
[15:19] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, they mount just fine when I issue sudo mount -a
[15:19] <RoDiMuS-X> How would i go about switching from Ubuntu-Gnome distro to regular Ubuntu
[15:19] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, or if I add the users to the fstab entry, i can click on the folder and it will then mount them
[15:19] <ki7mt> arun_, once you gotten to the dsc stage, pbuilds downloads and installs all the deps, then does the build.
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, my fstab entries are _netdev,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,intr,hard,defaults  0       0
[15:20] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: are you using wifi (which I don't think comes up till you log in to the desktop and nm kicks in?
[15:20] <arun_> ki7mt: should I need to follow all those steps in that manual?
[15:20] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, WTH, i just noticed the auto option is missing. LOL
[15:21] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: quack quack I'm a rubber ducky.
[15:21] <ki7mt> arun_, If you going to build packages, here's where to start: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[15:21] <quackgyver> No you're not.
[15:21] <quackgyver> I am.
[15:21] <CarlFK> lol
[15:21] <arun_> ki7mt: nah, I have the source code and its ready to get build
[15:22] <ki7mt> arun_, may as well join #ubuntu-motu also, those guys are the guru's on packages, can answer allot of questions
[15:22] <cfhowlett> RoDiMuS-X sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will pull in the missing pieces IIRC
[15:22] <roman> hello. can anyone help me connect my kindle fire with Xubuntu 14.04?
[15:22] <arun_> ki7mt: I mean should I need to do all the steps of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[15:22] <CarlFK> arun_: not sure where you are, but here is my workflow for what you might be doing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[15:23] <ki7mt> arun_, If you on a 32bit box, there's not much point in building 64bit code really.
[15:23] <ki7mt> For 64bit box and 32bit code, that's ok, can do the multi-lib installs and you good to go.
[15:24] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, nope, even after adding auto to my fstab they still don't automount
[15:24] <arun_> ki7mt: I have 64 bit box and need to build 32 bit deb, I do have the source code
[15:24] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: are you using wifi (which I don't think comes up till you log in to the desktop and nm kicks in?
[15:25] <Koma> hi there
[15:25] <ki7mt> arun_, then your fine. If it's true 32bit code, you'll need whatever libs are required to build, just install them.
[15:25] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, no wifi, it's hard wired. They mount just fine if i issue sudo mount -a
[15:25] <Koma> there is no cman package for 14.04 .. has been deprecated?
[15:25] <Koma> what is the cluster alternative?
[15:25] <ki7mt> arun_, I work on an app that needs 23bit gfortran, so I install libgfortran:i386 .. easy peaszy.
[15:26] <ki7mt> needs 32bit .. sri
[15:26] <CarlFK> ubuntuaddicted: my guess is networking isn't up yet. hmm.. this sounds familiar...
[15:26] <ISmithers> sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS> /mnt/media gives me "mount.nfs: remote share not in 'host:dir' format" and sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/mnt/media just shows the mount help info... so, what am I doing wrong?
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, that's why _netdev is in the fstab entry. I am using Xubuntu 14.04
[15:28] <llutz> ISmithers: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/what-nfs-export /where-to-mount
[15:28] <ubuntuaddicted> ISmithers, you need the server:path and also where you want to mount it. So it would be sudo mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/some/folder /mnt/media
[15:29] <pouete> hello peoples, a question here, my lock screen shortcuts are not working : passing throught dbus works perfectly, but once i want to use the shortcut, i have no reaction at all
[15:29] <ISmithers> Oh OK. Someone gave me an example earlier which was: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS> /media/NFS hence why I was trying that, but I see that -t has a 3 part syntax, so I wasn't sure heh.
[15:29] <nijo> Hey Guys, Is there any way to start an xterm for a user instead of loading the GUI on bootup???
[15:29] <ki7mt> just thought, but need nfs (either common or server ) installed as well right?
[15:29] <ISmithers> Thanks llutz / ubuntuaddicted :>
[15:30] <pouete> how can i solve this little problem ? :)
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, so you want to boot into a terminal console not a desktop manager?
[15:30] <nijo> yes :)
[15:31] <CalimeroTeknik> hello, what is accountsservice / accounts-daemon for?
[15:31] <nijo> a terminal console with GUI support to be exact
[15:31] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, you could just hit ctrl-alt-f1 and log in that way but I am sure there's a way to not launch lightdm or whatever greeter you're using and only have it launch a console. i am not sure how to do that, i'd have to google it
[15:32] <ki7mt> ISmithers, it's a bit dated, but lot of good info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:32] <ISmithers> Oh cool, thanks for that ki7mt! :D
[15:34] <nijo> thanks for the reply ubuntuaddicted, i tried the ctrl+alt+f1 but that console has no GUI support... Anyway i will try the 2nd method you said, Let me know if you find something thabks
[15:34] <jjavaholic> given the option would you install java JDK systemwise (via sudo) or locally for each user?
[15:34] <nijo> thanks for the reply ubuntuaddicted, i tried the ctrl+alt+f1 but that console has no GUI support... Anyway i will try the 2nd method you said, Let me know if you find something thanks
[15:35] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, if you want GUI support than all you would do is hit ctrl-alt-f7 and log in to the GUI
[15:35] <Jakiii99> Ciao
[15:35] <Jakiii99> a tyttu
[15:35] <Jakiii99> tutti
[15:35] <Jakiii99> !list
[15:36] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, f1 thru f6 are the 6 terminal consoles and f7 is where X server is running
[15:36] <nijo> yes but i prefer the xterm with no GUI to improve my linux command skills :)
[15:36] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, than you use ctrl-alt-f1 and do what you need to do
[15:36] <ubuntuaddicted> CarlFK, any other suggestions for getting my NFS shares to auto-mount ?
[15:37] <nijo> but when i play a video with vlc it shows some x server issues....
[15:37] <nijo> any way thanks for the tip ubuntuaddicted
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, ah i see what you want to do. you want a terminal window BUT with X running as well.
[15:38] <stevecam> Who had the clever idea of disabling workspaces by default in Unity?
[15:38] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, not sure how to do that other than just logging into you desktop environment and then launching xterm
[15:38] <ki7mt> I'd have to go looky, but I thought there was a line commented out in the Grub2 config for this, where quiet-splash is uncommented, and test is commented out.
[15:39] <bazhang> !nox
[15:39] <ki7mt> text .. commented out..
[15:39] <nijo> yeah so far me also knows that method :)
[15:39] <ubuntuaddicted> ki7mt, bazhang but isn't that text only without X running?
[15:40] <ubuntuaddicted> ki7mt, bazhang he wants X running so if he launches VLC it will open a player
[15:40] <ki7mt> Ahh, well Ctrl+Alt+T then :-)
[15:41] <ubuntuaddicted> nijo, you could launch xterm, set it to fullscreen and save the session so that whenever you log in it will always open xterm
[15:41] <ki7mt> then hit F11 fer a full screen of gnome-teerminal :-)
[15:42] <Reptilia> Does someone know what is the major difference between Xubuntu 13.10 and 14.04? I am asking because after the upgrade 13.10 --> 14.04 i noticed a major drop in overall performance. I am using a HP Compaq nx 8220 with ATI Mobility Radeon X600. Thanks in advance.
[15:43] <ISmithers> Cool stuff, got the mount working. I do appear to have a mount on my desktop which I cannot seem to unmount. It's not actually listed in the mount table, it's just an icon which I can't get rid of for some reason.
[15:43] <nijo> sounds like a cool workaround ubuntuaddicted, Thanks
[15:43] <ki7mt> Reptilia, info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[15:45] <joelmo> do anyone know how i  enable users init config files
[15:45] <joelmo> config files in directory ~/.config/upstart
[15:46] <OSaddict> Is there a way to put the launcher on the bottom of the screen in 14.04? I've got a widescreen laptop and there's much more space there.
[15:46] <ki7mt> arun_, sri mate, I dont do those private chat deals, besides, its best to ask in the main channel as there's lots of knowledgeable folks here.
[15:47] <arun_> ki7mt: yeah
[15:50] <Macer> hm. is there a reason why i can't copy anything off a windows phone that uses mtp ? or open it?
[15:51] <Macer> do i have to be part of a particular group?
[15:53] <Angelus> Hi
[15:54] <Angelus> Can anyine help me with an install issue?
[15:54] <arun_> ki7mt: dude , can u help me use pbuilder
[15:54] <SwedeMike> !ask
[15:54] <Angelus> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new server, with 64bit xeon CPU's
[15:54] <OSaddict> Angelus: What's the problem?
[15:55] <Angelus> problem is, that I get an error booting the CD, because it can't find a 64 bit CPU, but only a i686
[15:55] <Angelus> and when I instaal a 32 bit version I can't use most of the 10G ram...
[15:57] <Angelus> Is there a diff version for 64 bit xeons? or is that configuration not supported?
[15:57] <daedeloth> I have finally become super human!
[15:57] <daedeloth> I can type faster than a computer can register!
[15:57] <daedeloth> I am a true superhuman!
[15:57] <OSaddict> Angelus: Wow! That's strange. AFAIK, Xeon is very similar to i7, so it should work. Did you md5 the iso?
[15:57] <daedeloth> (when will the bug with autocomplete be fixed?)
[15:58] <Beldar> daedeloth, This is support, do you need that?
[15:58] <ki7mt> arun_, the links I sent eariler is the best information I have on pubuilder, there may be some sites here and there, can also look at the Debian Maintainers Guide for more info.
[15:58] <daedeloth> yes. autocomplete is slow. has been since 14.04.
[15:58] <bazhang> daedeloth, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat; here is support Only
[15:58] <daedeloth> ok: how can I fix my autocomplete being slow?
[15:58] <Angelus> 12.10 64 bit has the same error, and I used that disk on a diff server
[15:59] <Beldar> daedeloth, Bug link?
[15:59] <daedeloth> hm, haven't really reported it to be honest, I'd figure a lot of people would notice the same.
[15:59] <ki7mt> arun_, Just be fare warned, packaing for Ubuntu or Debian is not a 30 minutes session, takes allot of effort.
[15:59] <Macer> hm. i can't seem to get mtp working
[15:59] <Macer> i can see all the content on the phone but can't seem to xfer anything :/
[16:00] <Beldar> daedeloth, Ah, well it's not a bug it is your issue. ;)
[16:00] <daedeloth> so nobody has noticed that ubuntu got sluggish after upgrading? Perhaps it indeed is my problem...
[16:02] <daedeloth> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449915/ubuntu-14-04-is-too-slow
[16:02] <daedeloth> here is my bug.
[16:02] <daedeloth> (hm, sorry, that's not a bug, but a question :))
[16:02] <OSaddict> daedeloth: What's your CPU specs?
[16:03] <daedeloth> Intel® Core™ i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz × 8
[16:03] <daedeloth> o-ow, I just notice something: VESA: CAYMAN
[16:03] <OSaddict> Damn, it should definitely not lag on that!
[16:03] <daedeloth> could be graphics
[16:04] <daedeloth> it's really annoying, i can type faster than chrome autocomplete áaand it sometimes messes up the order of the letters.
[16:04] <daedeloth> hm, but according to "softwrae & updates", I'm using fglrx, but in "info" it sais vesa: cayman
[16:04] <OSaddict> Could also be swap overuse. Linux manages swapping in a terribly inefficient way.
[16:05] <daedeloth> 0 bytes swap used
[16:05] <Beldar> OSaddict, Careful making broad statements you can't prove, it is not helpful, recognize the context and the person your helpings ability to understand that.
[16:06] <Beldar> helping*
[16:06] <daedeloth> I do have a system load of around 1, but with a quad core that shouldn't be a problem
[16:07] <daedeloth> the "slugginess" is also noticeable on my laptop
[16:07] <daedeloth> so I consider this "an ubuntu issue". 13.10 was faster.
[16:07] <daedeloth> on all devices I own
[16:07] <daedeloth> (that is: 2.)
[16:07] <Beldar> daedeloth, If you just externalize the blame you will never, get stuff working.
[16:08] <OSaddict> Beldar: Sorry. That's just been my experience, though. Probably different for others.
[16:09] <Beldar> OSaddict, Not a big deal it just clouds the issues. ;)
[16:09] <volkan> hi
[16:09] <TJ-> daedeloth: Is typing slow in a console terminal (Alt+Ctrl+F1) ?
[16:09] <daedeloth> well, it's not about externalizing the blame, but I don't know anything about ubuntu development. as an end user, I can only say that I did 2 fresh ubuntu installs and my experience has been twice that 14.04 is slower (or at least: less responsive) than 13.10
[16:10] <daedeloth> no, seems fine there
[16:10] <OSaddict> I've always found 12.04 to be waaaay faster than any of the later releases.
[16:10] <daedeloth> also, I can't really say it's "slow". It's just that I notice there are delays
[16:11] <TJ-> daedeloth: what does this report: "lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA"
[16:11] <daedeloth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7522496/
[16:12] <IamEld3st> join #friendly-coding
[16:12] <TJ-> daedeloth: So, that ask.Ubuntu question isn't yours? Because that has an Nvidia graphics adapter
[16:12] <daedeloth> ah, no, that wasn't mine, that was just me googling
[16:12] <daedeloth> and it kindof matched :)
[16:13] <Beldar> IamEld3st,   /join
[16:13] <TJ-> daedeloth: Have you run "glxinfo" and pastebinned the results anywhere?
[16:13] <daedeloth> not yet
[16:13] <IamEld3st> i know i just missclicked :D
[16:13] <TJ-> daedeloth: "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo | pastebinit"
[16:14] <Beldar> IamEld3st, cool, just wanted to see you get there
[16:14] <daedeloth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7522511/
[16:15] <TJ-> daedeloth: How about "xrandr -q | pastebinit"
[16:15] <daedeloth> I was just wondeering if there wasn't an automated pastebin bot :p
[16:15] <daedeloth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7522515/
[16:16] <TJ-> daedeloth: How many physical monitors are connected ?
[16:16] <daedeloth> 4, 1 disabled
[16:17] <superlou> So, I have a pile of Acronis trueimage .tib files from back in 2008 or so.  Is there any way to open those in ubuntu?  It seems like it's a proprietary backup format (which I regret)
[16:17] <TJ-> daedeloth: "F=/etc/X11/xorg.conf; [ -e "$F" ] && pastebinit $F"
[16:18] <daedeloth> that didn't work. :)
[16:18] <daedeloth> no xorg.conf
[16:18] <TJ-> daedeloth: probably auto-configured, so no file, which was why I wrote it as a conditional
[16:18] <daedeloth> aah, ok
[16:18] <ki7mt> superlou, I used TrueImage for a long time, I've never been able to use anything but TI on them.
[16:18] <daedeloth> me no speak bash.
[16:19] <Beldar> superlou, In general you can get a 30 try period on windows releases, put it it a virtual and access those.
[16:19] <Beldar> in*
[16:19] <TJ-> daedeloth: OK, my best guess here is that you've got the one desktop spread over all the monitors as a single X screen, is that correct?
[16:19] <superlou> ki7mt, that's what i was afraid of
[16:19] <superlou> Beldar, unfortunately i don't have any valid windows licenses available
[16:19] <ki7mt> Im not saying there isn't somethign, haven't looked in a long time, but at the time, was TI or nothing.
[16:19] <superlou> though maybe i'll just do it one day in the office
[16:19] <Beldar> superlou, You do not have to have one for a trial period
[16:19] <daedeloth> TJ-, yes, fairly sure it is. a default xinerama setup I think
[16:20] <superlou> ki7mt, yeah.  I've been googling, but haven't hit anything
[16:20] <superlou> Beldar, wouldn't i need a windows licenese to install it in a VM?
[16:20] <daedeloth> multiple x-screens is a hussle.
[16:20] <Beldar> superlou, Not that I know of in a try scenario, you might ask in ##windows
[16:20] <n0x_42> Is there a way to output the value of a variable to a file while using "EOF"?
[16:21] <superlou> Beldar, googling now.  apparently if i can get hold of a windows 7 dvd, i can try it for 30 days.  just need to get a dvd
[16:21] <TJ-> daedeloth: OK, it is *usually* the case with Xinerama that 3D rendering is disabled, which might explain your symptoms. I'd suggest you try running on 1 monitor as a test, and see if it is faster responding. If they do, that tends to confirm its a xinerama issue
[16:21] <n0x_42> Something like "${variableName}" is actually printed out instead of the value of that variable.
[16:22] <TJ-> daedeloth: I run 6 monitors here over 3 GPUs, and I use separate X screens to avoid that issue myself
[16:22] <n0x_42> That's in bash btw.
[16:22] <daedeloth> TJ-, I'm pretty sure 3d is enabled, but my main problem is: this problem didn't exist in 13.10.
[16:22] <TJ-> n0x_42: You mean, using a '<< here-document'
[16:22] <n0x_42> No, I am using read -d '' String <<"EOF"
[16:23] <ki7mt> Man, TJ- I can barely keep up with one monitor, let alone 6!! :-)
[16:23] <n0x_42> Would here-document work?
[16:23] <superlou> Beldar, well I'll give http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/hh699156 a try. Beldar, ki7mt thanks!
[16:23] <Beldar> superlou, https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/cannot-find-digital-river-download-site/66a8439b-0d16-4b70-92f7-1c8486a46ebf
[16:23] <superlou> even better
[16:24] <skeamz> hhi
[16:24] <Beldar> superlou, YOu want a legit download
[16:24] <superlou> Beldar, yep.
[16:24] <skeamz> soz for barge but is this where i can get newbie support ?_?
[16:24] <TJ-> n0x_42: "TEST=HI!; cat <<EOT \n $TEST \n EOT"
[16:25] <trndr> !ask | skeamz
[16:25] <n0x_42> Ok, so is there a way to not use \n to indicate a newline? It's a pretty long document.
[16:25] <TJ-> n0x_42: If you want parameter expansion you must *not* quote the word, so <<EOF not <<"EOF"
[16:25] <superlou> Beldar, I'll try out the official 8.1 version first, and resort to 7 if i have to
[16:26] <Beldar> superlou, I was hoping you would.
[16:26] <TJ-> n0x_42: I typed those "\n" just to indicate line-feeds; you would not put them in literally, just normal line-feeds
[16:26] <n0x_42> Ahh ok I see. There will also be a lot of single quotes. Will that be an issue?
[16:26] <n0x_42> So basically something like this: define('DB_NAME', '"${mysqlName}"');
[16:26] <superlou> Beldar, yeah.  I'd prefer not to have to resort to something sketchy to recover backups
[16:26] <TJ-> n0x_42: Best thing is to test it on a sample
[16:27] <superlou> That said, I don't mind blasting the VM every 90 days, or every acronis trueimage timeout.  I'm a little miffed of a backup tool that no longer lets you access your backups if you stop paying.
[16:27] <TJ-> n0x_42: but it should be OK provided you don't have embedded BASH expansions... to get a literal "$" you'd need to escape it "\$"
[16:27] <Beldar> superlou, Digital River was the official release link on W7
[16:28] <superlou> Beldar, will try to find something more ubuntu friendly for backups
[16:28] <Beldar> superlou, clonezilla is one I use.
[16:29] <Beldar> it clones though
[16:29] <superlou> Beldar, my understanding is that that's full disc imaging?  At this point, i'd rather just backup folder diffs
[16:29] <superlou> oh
[16:29] <superlou> yeah
[16:29] <superlou> :)
[16:29] <Beldar> superlou, Cool, handful or more of those available, including rsync.
[16:29] <skeamz> ok so i fiddled around with the terminal ... (i like to theme things) and i set color, name and transparency of a new terminal profile and in my noobness i made that profile the default one and i dont seem to get the menu list where i can add new profiles and stuffs.  Anyone got anything :D
[16:30] <dhanvi> i have an error while installing ubuntu
[16:31] <dhanvi> the attempt to mount a file system
[16:31] <Beldar> dhanvi, Way to vague.
[16:31] <trndr> skeamz, File->New Profile...
[16:31] <skeamz> i dont get the "File" option ... or any other for that matter
[16:32] <trndr> skeamz, it auto-hides at the topbar
[16:32] <dhanvi> with type vfat in SCSI1 (0,0,0) ,partition #5(sda) at /boot/efi failed
[16:33] <dhanvi> can any one tell me how to figure it out
[16:33] <skeamz> all my other apps do but the terminal that is now my default does not
[16:33] <Beldar> dhanvi, What is on the HD right now, and when do you see this error?
[16:33] <superlou> Beldar, rsync's very interesting.  I was using simplebackup, or whatever the included app was for a while, but ran into issues restoring, though at least i can manually grab files.  At this point, I've just been backing up my home directory before each ubuntu release into a folder, and deleting out the large files that are dups.
[16:34] <dhanvi> i am having already having windows 8 and ubuntu gnome
[16:34] <dhanvi> i messed up with the grub
[16:35] <dhanvi> i tried boot repair
[16:35] <Beldar> superlou, I use a gui that uses rsync to back up home, just for a backup no reuse of it as home again, just saved stuff.
[16:35] <superlou> Beldar, ever looked at Bacula?  Looks like the whole kitchen sync, but a learning curve
[16:36] <Beldar> dhanvi, Ah post the bootinfo summary auto generated by bootrepair here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[16:37] <Beldar> superlou,  I have a way I use that works, kinda different than most use, but thanks.
[16:37] <dhanvi> some how i pressed continue
[16:38] <dhanvi> i am installing ubuntu right now
[16:38] <adman> Hello, I had 12.04 installed by wubi, then upgraded to 14.04 and then I found out that wubi is not supported anymore so it broke something and I cannot boot now. It says "cannot mount /" . Is there any way how to repair it or de-upgrade back to 12.04 ?
[16:38] <dhanvi> i have have some errors i will send u the link in a message
[16:39] <Beldar> dhanvi, I have the feeling your worked up and are just sort of flailing, that is a good way to brick your setup.
[16:39] <rijack> so I have a problem getting grsec to patch into the zen kernel. Im doing it as part of a script and the patch runs successfully till the last file then halts causing the main script to throw a fatal error. Has anyone successfully patched into a non standard kernel
[16:40] <Beldar> dhanvi, I know hardly nothing about UEFI or EFI stuff, I'm just trying to get you the right help.
[16:42] <Beldar> adman, Not really, I would pull out what you need accessing from windows and do a dualboot.
[16:42] <jcstarken> I have installed 14.04 on external hdd, using usb port my machine should want to boot from it first but is not, instead going straight to my 12.04 that is on the local hdd, any advise and thank you in advance
[16:43] <Beldar> jcstarken, Use the per-session manual boot menu.
[16:43] <Beldar> or set it first in the bios
[16:44] <Beldar> adman, THere is a wubi megathread at the ubuntu forums, the one person who has done support is found there.
[16:44] <jcstarken> Beldar: Thank you I have tried holding down the c button and it still just goes to 12.04 I will look up per session manual boot menu thank you
[16:45] <skeamz> ok i managed to figure it out using gconf and editing profiles manually thnx though :D
[16:45] <Beldar> jcstarken, Mine is a f12 at powering on.
[16:45] <Beldar> your bios splash should tell you jcstarken
[16:46] <jcstarken> Beldar: yes mine is f1 and it is set to external that is why I cant figure it out thank you
[16:46] <Beldar> jcstarken, Not the bios itself the splash you see first, has this info generally.
[16:47] <TJ-> jcstarken: Is the system UEFI?
[16:47] <Beldar> good question
[16:49] <jcstarken> TJ: I am not sure will need to check bios for that I am only running 12.04 on local hdd no other os
[16:49] <jcstarken> brb
[16:51] <qstrahl> Can I blacklist the skype icon from the systray in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:53] <citrix> aa gai
[16:57] <Beldar> !info libappindicator1
[16:58] <Beldar> qstrahl, You have this 'libappindicator1' installed to see the icons I assume?
[16:59] <Beldar> qstrahl, Is this an upgrade to 14.04, and the issue is still the missing caffeine icon?
[16:59] <kostkon> qstrahl, remove sni-qt:i386
[16:59] <kostkon> qstrahl, sni-qt:i386 package*
[17:00] <kostkon> qstrahl, and then install skype-wrapper if you want  https://launchpad.net/~skype-wrapper/+archive/ppa
[17:01] <qstrahl> Beldar, No, I started on 14.04, and I do not have libappindicator1
[17:01] <qstrahl> kostkon, What's sni-qt?
[17:01] <Beldar> qstrahl, Cool.
[17:01] <kostkon> qstrahl, you want to remove the icon?
[17:01] <vilambit_> how do I fix suspend/resume working with the nouveau driver on 14.04?
[17:01] <qstrahl> Yeah.
[17:02] <r1n3> any idea about latest AMD driver in 14.04
[17:02] <r1n3> ?
[17:02] <r1n3> I have not tested yet
[17:02] <kostkon> qstrahl, sni-qt adds indicator support to qt apps, mostly old ones that don't have already. in this case the 32bit version of the pacakge
[17:04] <Diplomat> guys is it possible to view from logs or somewhere why my server crashed ?
[17:04] <AcidRain2012> yes
[17:05] <AcidRain2012> what OS?
[17:05] <qstrahl> kostkon, I see, thank you
[17:05] <AcidRain2012> oh ubuntu obviously
[17:05] <kostkon> qstrahl, np
[17:05] <AcidRain2012> Diplomat, /var/log/
[17:05] <genii> Diplomat: Usually they are stored in the directory /var/log , sometimes in subdirectories named after the program they are logging for
[17:06] <Diplomat> I dont mean my software, but real physical server
[17:06] <Diplomat> For some random reason it shut itself down
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> wouldn't you still be interested in the logs?
[17:07] <Diplomat> yes but i was wondering maybe there are some kind of specific logs
[17:08] <AcidRain2012> genii> Diplomat: Usually they are stored in the directory /var/log , sometimes in subdirectories named after the program they are logging for
[17:08] <Beldar> vilambit_, In general here it helps to have more distinct details.
[17:08] <Diplomat> ah ok my bad
[17:09] <vilambit_> Beldar: ok
[17:09] <Beldar> for the channel, not me in particular vilambit_ ;)
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> Diplomat: there's lots of good stuff in there, kern.log, syslog, dmesg, etc.
[17:11] <Megabyte> Hi guys
[17:11] <Megabyte> Do you need help with organizing documentation?
[17:11] <Megabyte> I'd like to help. Is there anything that you would need that is in great need of rewriting?
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> !participate | Megabyte