[07:18] <XVampireX> cyrus you're not supposed to, all you have to do is enable universe and multiverse, that simple.
[07:18] <XVampireX> Check again see if it's got universe and multiverse
[07:18] <cyrus> i enabled every thing
[07:19] <XVampireX> Check it again
[07:19] <cyrus> mom
[07:19] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> sorry, I just installed the server and choose to install only what I need, cuz it's for a server with few memory
[07:19] <cyrus> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:19] <cyrus> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:19] <cyrus> multiserves
[07:20] <XVampireX> you enabled it? You need to enable it in either synaptic or adept I think
[07:20] <cyrus> eb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:20] <cyrus> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:20] <cyrus> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:20] <cyrus> yes its enabled
[07:21] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> I need to change it I think, yes
[07:21] <cyrus> mybee i can try to add this eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:21] <cyrus> mybee i can try to add this eb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:22] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> OK, thx for ur help, i'll try what u said
[07:22] <XVampireX> It's not eb, it's deb
[07:22] <XVampireX> it stands for debian
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> cyrus: you should also append your 2 letter country code to the beginning. ie - us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <bge> list
[07:23] <XVampireX> By the way people, I'm gonna show you I got a little problem with viewing media in the browser, it always says (no picture) or something like that
[07:23] <xanax`> hello
[07:23] <cyrus> i added that leejunfan
[07:23] <cyrus> made en update again
[07:23] <cyrus> still no packet
[07:24] <XVampireX> do apt-cache search java-package
[07:24] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> OMG, I don't have KDE yet, cuz server install only, so I can't use adept sems, that's why i'd like to find internet link like i got it for debian http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
[07:24] <XVampireX> It will search this in the repositories
[07:25] <XVampireX> If it's not there, then you certainly did something wrong with enabling universe and multiverse
[07:25] <ninniuz> hi I just noticed there is no Display settings menu anymore
[07:25] <ninniuz> where is it?
[07:25] <XVampireX> You want kde or kubuntu, NyX_Sp00nKilla ?
[07:25] <ep>  and I lose sound everwhere but within it.  Any idea, how to fix this?
[07:26] <ninniuz> the one with screen resolution and stuff
[07:26] <XVampireX> If you want kubuntu then do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <XVampireX> if you want kde then do sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[07:26] <XVampireX> I think it's kde-desktop, I'm not sure
[07:26] <pussfeller> how do i make Konsole use all the fonts
[07:27] <ep> Ordinally, sound works great, note it's shared between multible apps. However, when I run this one Java based application I like, I'll lose sound everywhere but within it.
[07:27] <pussfeller> like this nifty D00M font i got here
[07:27] <cyrus> hmm it is still not working :(
[07:27] <ep> Any idea how to fix?
[07:27] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> I just want a server without graphic for the moment, cuz not a lot's of ram, and I need a weeb link to find it
[07:27] <XVampireX> cyrus: also keep in mind, linux is case sensitive
[07:28] <XVampireX> NyX_Sp00nKilla: KDE takes more ram than Gnome
[07:28] <cyrus> now i try the us package
[07:28] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> yes, but I don't want gnome or kde, it's for a server only
[07:28] <pussfeller> you cant uninstall all the kde and gnome stuff one you get done
[07:28] <pussfeller> err can
[07:28] <XVampireX> During install, you can choose if you want server.
[07:29] <ninniuz> what about a network install?
[07:29] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> yep, and I choose server
[07:29] <XVampireX> Yeah, it's supposed to install the core
[07:29] <pussfeller> server borked for me, when I tried it on one of the disks
[07:29] <ninniuz> does anyone have kde 3.5.2?
[07:29] <XVampireX> And if you want graphical server you might want to try xfce4 I hear it's very lightweight
[07:29] <cyrus> hmm strange
[07:30] <pussfeller> or fluxbox
[07:30] <XVampireX> cyrus: You must have done something wrong with universe and multiverse
[07:30] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> but now, I don't really know the packages name, that's why i'd like to find a weblink like the one I have for debian  (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
[07:30] <bge> is there any way I can reconfigure entire startup scripts to default, including module configuration
[07:30] <cyrus> is the package: fakeroot java-package   showen if i use this command apt-cache search fakeroot
[07:30] <XVampireX> it would show things related to fakeroot
[07:31] <XVampireX> and java-package
[07:31] <XVampireX> but, don't use both
[07:31] <XVampireX> wait, let me check
[07:31] <ninniuz> pls can anyone tell me if they can get the Display menu from rmb --> configure desktop?
[07:31] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> don't need any graphic on it, I choose roots way, sry
[07:31] <ninniuz> with kde 3.5.2 and kubuntu breezy
[07:31] <XVampireX> cyrus: I can see the java-package and fakeroot packages just fine.
[07:32] <XVampireX> cyrus, start from BEGINNING of the tutorial, redo all the steps, don't skip ANYTHING.
[07:33] <ninniuz> no one?
[07:33] <XVampireX> What?
[07:33] <cyrus> this is what i made
[07:33] <cyrus> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
[07:33] <XVampireX> I got dapper, so I can't say anything about breezy
[07:34] <ninniuz> do you have that menu though?
[07:34] <XVampireX> cyrus: Ubuntu/Kubuntu are not debian
[07:34] <XVampireX> They are built on top of debian but they are not debian
[07:34] <cyrus> i use kubuntu
[07:34] <XVampireX> Yeah, but the article is for debian
[07:34] <XVampireX> don't use it.
[07:35] <cyrus> can you show your /ect/apt/sources.list file ?
[07:35] <XVampireX> ninniuz: Hmm
[07:35] <cyrus> in query
[07:35] <XVampireX> ninniuz: What menu exactly?
[07:35] <XVampireX> What's rmb?
[07:35] <ninniuz> rmb rbm cannot remember
[07:35] <ninniuz> right button
[07:35] <XVampireX> In display settings?
[07:35] <ninniuz> yes
[07:36] <ninniuz> where you can change ur screen resolution and frequency
[07:36] <XVampireX> just a sec
[07:36] <ninniuz> ok
[07:37] <XVampireX> There's no rmb or rbm
[07:37] <ninniuz> no didnt mean that...click with ur right button on the desktop and from there chose configure desktop
[07:37] <ninniuz> is there a display menu in the dialog you get?
[07:37] <NyX_Sp00nKilla> I know that ubuntu/kubuntu r not debian, that's why I'm looking for a kubuntu webpages for packages
[07:38] <XVampireX> no
[07:38] <ninniuz> are you using kde 3.5.2?
[07:38] <Isil`Zha> how do i get back the "go" and "window" menus in konqueror? and why were they left out for kubuntu in the first place?
[07:38] <XVampireX> yes
[07:38] <ninniuz> there was one in kde 3.5.1...and now I dunno where to set my screen frequency
[07:39] <ninniuz> nor screen resolution
[07:39] <XVampireX> ninniuz
[07:39] <XVampireX> clip on kicker
[07:39] <XVampireX> system settings
[07:39] <XVampireX> and then in hardware click on display
[07:39] <XVampireX> Also, install video drivers
[07:40] <ninniuz> system settings on kicker?
[07:40] <XVampireX> yeah
[07:40] <XVampireX> kicker is the menu in the panel
[07:40] <XVampireX> buttom left
[07:40] <ninniuz> I thought kicker was the panel
[07:41] <XVampireX> It is, kinda, yeah
[07:41] <XVampireX> but anyways, click on that button (buttom left) and system settings
[07:41] <ninniuz> I have no display submenu there
[07:41] <ninniuz> oh let me check
[07:42] <XVampireX> No, system settings and then hardware -> display
[07:42] <ninniuz> no display in hardware
[07:42] <XVampireX> :O
[07:42] <XVampireX> It's right before Storage media
[07:43] <XVampireX> Did you install video card drivers?
[07:43] <ninniuz> I have energy there or something like that
[07:43] <ninniuz> nop...I didnt install nvidia drivers
[07:43] <slow-motion> re
[07:43] <XVampireX> weird
[07:43] <XVampireX> try to install them then
[07:43] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[07:43] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:44] <ninniuz> but I had that menu with kde 3.5.1
[07:44] <ninniuz> and nothing changed since then
[07:45] <XVampireX> try to install drivers just in case
[07:47] <bge> pls help me, how do i find the version code of my kubuntu breezy?
[07:49] <bge>
[07:49] <XVampireX> bge: sorry, don't know
[07:51] <theripper> !ati
[07:51] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:00] <Brujah> hy everybody!
[08:01] <Brujah> is there a way I can find out whats the commandline of a program? I need to know how my compiler calls fasm
[08:02] <xwolf-> how do i enable the jumpy icon when firefox is opening? it seems it won't jump nor appear anymore
[08:02] <xwolf-> it must be shy
[08:03] <pradeepto> heh
[08:03] <apokryphos> xwolf-: it works with all other applications?
[08:03] <xwolf-> yeap
[08:04] <xwolf-> or it could just be that firefox is too quick LOL
[08:05] <apokryphos> I'm sure that's not it
[08:05] <xwolf-> me too.
[08:05] <apokryphos> argh, can't find the freakin' option. Somewhere in kcontrol
[08:05] <to3> insatlling with vmware :P
[08:07] <Tonio_> hi
[08:08] <mwe> can anyone on dapper confirm that adept_notifier is broken?
[08:10] <apokryphos> xwolf-: aha, it should be set under "Launch Feedback" in systemsettings
[08:11] <apokryphos> xwolf-: if it's not there then show me the output of locate firefox|grep '.desktop'
[08:11] <apokryphos> *if it's set there, then...
[08:13] <theripper> can anyone help  me install ati drivers?
[08:13] <apokryphos> !ati
[08:13] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:13] <theripper> ive read that already , its too confusing
[08:14] <theripper> ive only been using linux since yesterday
[08:14] <apokryphos> the first link? It's pretty straightforward, which part are you having problems with?
[08:15] <theripper> the ubuntu drivers are already installed, and they dont work right
[08:15] <apokryphos> what's the error?
[08:15] <theripper> so id like to install the ati driver
[08:16] <theripper> it corrupts kde at any resolution besides 1024x786
[08:16] <apokryphos> the ubuntu drivers *are* the ATI drivers
[08:16] <apokryphos> if you followed the guide
[08:16] <ninniuz> I installed nvidia drivers but nothing changes
[08:16] <ninniuz> changed
[08:17] <apokryphos> ninniuz: did you follow the guide for installing it?
[08:17] <theripper> its still the default install , i havent changed anything yet
[08:17] <ninniuz> yes
[08:17] <apokryphos> theripper: if you  haven't installed anything then you haven't really installed the ati ubuntu drivers :)
[08:17] <ninniuz> it's not a matter of drivers...I checked xorg.conf and it has been changed...I had (and still have) a problem with the display menu
[08:17] <apokryphos> theripper: have a whack at that guide, I can talk you through any problematic part
[08:18] <ninniuz> which actually I cannot find
[08:18] <apokryphos> display menu?
[08:18] <theripper> ok , i thought that the ubuntu drivers where installed by default
[08:18] <ninniuz> yeah the one with the screen resolution and frequency and stuff like that
[08:18] <theripper> ok , thank you ill try the guide
[08:18] <apokryphos> ninniuz: once the appropriate settings are in xorg, the rest is handled by KDE.
[08:18] <apokryphos> ninniuz: follow this guide:
[08:18] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[08:18] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:19] <ninniuz> ok I did follow it
[08:19] <ninniuz> I was saying to someone else before
[08:19] <ninniuz> I'm running kde 3.5.2
[08:19] <apokryphos> ninniuz: are you running the nvidia driver now, then?
[08:19] <ninniuz> and cannot find that menu anymore
[08:19] <ninniuz> while I had it on kde 3.5.1
[08:19] <apokryphos> to change your resolution?
[08:19] <ninniuz> yes I am
[08:19] <ninniuz> yes
[08:19] <ninniuz> and asked into the kde channel
[08:19] <apokryphos> right-click on desktop -> configure desktop -> display
[08:20] <ninniuz> and they told me to ask here
[08:20] <apokryphos> yes
[08:20] <ninniuz> there you go! there is no display menu here!
[08:20] <ninniuz> I had it before
[08:20] <mornfall> mwe: define broken
[08:20] <apokryphos> ninniuz: alt+f2 -> krandrtray
[08:20] <ninniuz> but there is none now since I upgraded to 3.5.2
[08:21] <ninniuz> oh ty
[08:21] <vge> somebody can help me, cos when i use my new 2.6.17 kernel, i cant connect to IRC? all other networks/Internet works fine?
[08:21] <ninniuz> but why there is no menu anymore?
[08:21] <apokryphos> ninniuz: does that work?
[08:21] <ninniuz> yes it does
[08:22] <ninniuz> but if I do Configure display I get nothing
[08:22] <apokryphos> I thought there was an effort to use guidance with resolution options in systemsettings. I know that got put in dapper, not sure if it got backported to breezy
[08:22] <apokryphos> if it was, then I'd imagine that that entry would be removed.
[08:22] <apokryphos> ninniuz: alt+f2 -> systemsettings
[08:22] <apokryphos> is there nothing to modify your resolution there? Graphics/Monitor or something, can't remember now.
[08:22] <ninniuz> so it has been removed in breezy
[08:23] <apokryphos> in breezy's kde packages of 3.5.2, it appears, but I'm not sure at all of that yet.
[08:23] <ninniuz> yes yes there is in krandrtray
[08:23] <ninniuz> it's ok
[08:23] <apokryphos> I said in systemsettings though, not krandr
[08:24] <ninniuz> there is no display menu in systemsettings
[08:24] <ninniuz> I already checked
[08:24] <mornfall> ubotu: lart mwe
[08:24] <ninniuz> I'm still trying to understand why my display flickers from time to time
[08:24] <mornfall> :)
[08:25] <apokryphos> incorrect refresh rate?
[08:25] <mornfall> if it's crt and you are chewing at the time, it's normal :]
[08:25] <ninniuz> well I have 2 options
[08:25] <ninniuz> 60Hz
[08:25] <ninniuz> and 75
[08:25] <Brujah> can a bash script print out the commandline it got called with? how?
[08:25] <ninniuz> it is unbearable with 60 so I set it to 75
[08:25] <mornfall> Brujah: echo "$@"?
[08:26] <Brujah> I try!
[08:26] <mornfall> magic
[08:26] <ninniuz> it is not crt
[08:26] <ninniuz> it's a flat screen
[08:27] <mornfall> ninniuz: lcd shouldn't flicker at all
[08:27] <mornfall> even on 60Hz
[08:27] <mornfall> mine's stable as a mirror
[08:27] <ep> When I run the one java based application,  I'll lose sound everywhere else, otherwise sound works fine. How might I fix this?
[08:27] <ninniuz> well mine doesnt
[08:27] <mornfall> and that's on 60Hz
[08:27] <ninniuz> so I guess it just sucks
[08:28] <mornfall> ninniuz: are you sure it's all right? (the display)
[08:28] <mornfall> or graphics card
[08:28] <ninniuz> no at this point I'm not sure
[08:28] <ninniuz> how can I check the graphics card?
[08:28] <mornfall> got another display?
[08:29] <ninniuz> actually it flickers when a window is "working"
[08:29] <mornfall> umm, whole screen flickers?
[08:29] <mornfall> or just the app :)
[08:29] <ep> Bad wording:  *if I run this one particular java based application, Ii'll lose sound everywhere else.  Hence, it seems like some java configuration.  How to fix?
[08:29] <ninniuz> nop just some points
[08:29] <mornfall> ninniuz: are you sure it's not just redraw?
[08:30] <ninniuz> eh nop it's quite annoying
[08:30] <mornfall> interesting...
[08:30] <mornfall> haven't seen that before
[08:30] <ninniuz> and it flickers
[08:30] <mornfall> ep: don't run the app :]
[08:30] <mornfall> ep: if you run artsd, artsdsp could maybe help (or no)
[08:32] <ninniuz> I dunno why I didnt get the nvidia logo though
[08:32] <ninniuz> I was waiting for it
[08:32] <ep> i knew that was coming -- i've haven't found a replacement for this one app which i like as well.  Dunno what "artsd" is, I'm not running it intentiionly:)
[08:32] <mornfall> ep: well, artsdsp <app> and see if it helps :)
[08:32] <ep> ah
[08:32] <mornfall> ep: if the app starts crashing, it may be it doesn't work right tho :)
[08:33] <mornfall> artsdsp is... ummm... hack :)
[08:33] <ninniuz> and cool nvidia-settings states I have a crt monitor lol
[08:33] <mornfall> ninniuz: sounds like a problem.....
[08:33] <ep> well the app's not crashing, not to go play some porn
[08:34] <ep> just kidding
[08:34] <DeJaMo> I'm trying to run Cclient, a windows chess interface through wine on my kubuntu system, it keeps screwing-up with the error message "External exception 80000101", I'm looking in /var/log but could anyone point me towords the file most likely to contain information specifically related to the problem with wine ?
[08:34] <mornfall> i don't think wine is supported at all
[08:35] <DeJaMo> well wine runs some stuff fine for me
[08:35] <ninniuz> oh let me check xorg.cong...
[08:35] <mornfall> DeJaMo: that's good for you
[08:36] <DeJaMo> mornfall: I thought wine ran on any linux box, is that not correct ?
[08:36] <mornfall> wine probably does... but eg on ppc, it'll hardly run anything useful
[08:37] <mornfall> also, the fact wine runs doesn't mean a particular app would
[08:38] <DeJaMo> mornfall: true, that's why I'm trying to find any error messages related to wine in the logs, to see if I can find out anything more
[08:38] <mornfall> DeJaMo: you could try debug output... probably not in logs, man wine could maybe help
[08:38] <DeJaMo> mornfall: never thought of man wine, ta
[08:46] <cyrus> hi all again
[08:46] <cyrus> :)
[08:47] <cyrus> are there any ideas to solve this: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[08:47] <cyrus> ?
[08:48] <nxv_> how do i activate suspend to ram or suspend to disk?
[08:54] <theripper> does ubuntu need a firewall and antivirus?
[08:54] <vge> not really
[08:54] <theripper> are there any firewalls for linux?
[08:55] <vge> sure, but im not good to recommend one
[08:55] <vge> !iptables
[08:55] <Tm_T> firestarter is ok gui
[08:56] <theripper> ok , thanks ill take a look at it
[08:56] <steveire> T4dRoT
[08:56] <steveire> wrong window
[08:58] <_pavel> heh
[08:59] <_pavel> steveire that's your pass?
[09:03] <steveire> try it and see
[09:03] <ninniuz> cyrus u there?
[09:06] <ninniuz> what is breezy-updates?
[09:09] <theripper> same as windows updates?
[09:10] <_ravn> hey all
[09:11] <_ravn> I need a good "newb" guide for apt/kbuntu
[09:11] <_ravn> anyone know of any?
[09:11] <sredna> Adept
[09:12] <sredna> :o
[09:19] <TheNightRider``> hey all
[09:19] <TheNightRider``> :)
[09:20] <TheNightRider``> anyone know how to change/add keyboard layouts in kubuntu 5.10? :)
[09:20] <_ravn> TheNightRider``: hey there
[09:21] <_ravn> no im sorry i do not. do u on the other hand know of a good guide for installing appz?
[09:21] <to3> in xsecer
[09:21] <to3> xserver
[09:21] <_ravn> yes
[09:22] <TheNightRider``> uhh
[09:22] <TheNightRider``> _ravn
[09:22] <TheNightRider``> with Adept Packet Manager
[09:22] <TheNightRider``> its got almost everything :)
[09:22] <TheNightRider``> if its windows apps.. its really, really hard
[09:23] <_ravn> I know.. :) But I still dont understand apt yet
[09:23] <CTV> i installed java wiht this manual
[09:23] <CTV> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[09:23] <CTV> but it dosn't work
[09:23] <_ravn> Thats what i need the guide for. Xvid for instance. Though I have installed firefox, ssh, bittorrent etc.. But that is easy!
[09:24] <TheNightRider``> _ravn
[09:24] <TheNightRider``> bittorrent has a linux version ;)
[09:24] <CTV> ava --version--
[09:24] <CTV> Unrecognized option: --version--
[09:24] <CTV> Could not create the Java virtual machine
[09:24] <TheNightRider``> CTV, you can easily istall Java with Adept
[09:24] <TheNightRider``> i think i saw it
[09:24] <CTV> i need sdk 1.5
[09:24] <CTV> j2sdk 1.5
[09:24] <TheNightRider``> j2?
[09:25] <CTV> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[09:26] <CTV> what command do you use to install java ?
[09:26] <CTV> i made a package from bin file
[09:26] <CTV> is there an oter solution?
[09:26] <TheNightRider``> i dont know
[09:29] <nxv_> hi, i am trying to get suspend to ram running.
[09:31] <nxv_> i found a introduction, that i should use /etc/acpi/sleep.sh i tried it and tried hibernate but my machine doesn't start up again. how can i find the error without getting an errormessage
[09:31] <steveire> Anyone here patient enough to chat to a general ubuntu n00b?
[09:31] <nxv_> or is there an hibernation/suspend log?
[09:32] <theripper> whats the best torrent client that works in kde?
[09:32] <steveire> I've got it installed, and I know I have to add mp3 support myself. What else do i have to install myself/ should I install?
[09:32] <steveire> torrents, yeah, how do i get myself sorted with torrents?
[09:33] <theripper> i have ktorrent , it look so 80s tho
[09:33] <steveire> what else should I et to make my OS complete?
[09:34] <steveire> !repos
[09:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:41] <staale> Any expert on compileing?
[09:42] <Tm_T> staale: hm?
[09:42] <staale> I have a problem with compileing mysql
[09:43] <staale> Tm_T: I have installed gcc
[09:43] <staale> did "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[09:43] <staale> now i gets this when running the ./configure script: "
[09:43] <staale> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:43] <staale> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:44] <staale> any idea?
[09:45] <noteventime> kostaale: try installing build-essential
[09:45] <noteventime> staale: try installing build-essential
[09:45] <staale> noteventime: ill trie that, thx
[09:45] <noteventime> np
[09:45] <noteventime> hope it works
[09:45] <Tm_T> staale: what you're compiling?
[09:45] <staale> Tm_T: Mysql
[09:46] <Tm_T> staale: any reason?
[09:47] <MenZa> Is it possible to deactivate the message-window when you click a contact once in Kopete?
[09:47] <staale> Tm_T: Any reason for what? Compileing? Yes
[09:47] <Tm_T> staale: and it is...
[09:47] <_ravn> can anyone plz tell me if there is an easy way to install xvid on kubuntu. I have an imac btw
[09:48] <staale> Tm_T: I like to follow guides houndred percents, and this time too. Im following a guide, that shows how to get mysql. php5 and apache2 to work 100 percent. Mysql didnt work propperly when i did "sudo apt-get etcetc"
[09:49] <_ravn> I have tried adept also
[09:49] <Tm_T> staale: eeh
[09:49] <Tm_T> staale: "ok"
[09:49] <staale> Tm_T: I know it might sound silly:P But there you got me!
[09:49] <Tm_T> staale: "sudo apt-get build-dep mysql" to get _everything_ you need to compile mysql
[09:49] <staale> Tm_T: ok
[09:50] <Tm_T> staale: also, still I think you don't have to compile mysql or anything yourself, what is needing it?
[09:51] <tijn> hi all
[09:51] <runelind> how do you start applications at kde startup? I tried adding symlinks to .kde/Autostart
[09:52] <staale> Tm_T: I might not be a Linux pro, im the opposit actually. But I do like to make web sites, and I think its easyer to have mysql, apache2 and php5 in the testing period
[09:52] <Tm_T> runelind: you can also add scripts to there
[09:52] <Tm_T> staale: aaah!
[09:52] <runelind> Tm_T: well the applications don't start that I've symlinked in there
[09:52] <Tm_T> staale: you don't need compile any of those
[09:52] <tijn> i have a question about ubou
[09:52] <Tm_T> runelind: then try scripts
[09:52] <staale> Tm_T: Don't I?
[09:52] <tijn> ubotu
[09:53] <Tm_T> staale: no
[09:53] <nxv__> i don't know how to get suspend working. i change something in /etc/defaut/acpi-support and than execute /etc/acpi/sleep.sh as root but i just have to guess no idea which switch might be the problem
[09:53] <Tm_T> staale: I'm pretty sure all of those are in repositories
[09:53] <staale> Tm_T: Ok, thx for support, but i need to go now, bye
[09:54] <slow-motion> re
[09:55] <tijn> !blootbot
[09:55] <_StarScream> is it possible to try xgl in dapper ?
[09:55] <Snake__> !xgl
[09:55] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:56] <Snake__> _StarScream: I personally havn't had much luck with it, but I havn't tried on flight 6 yet
[09:57] <_StarScream> Snake__: i'm trying a dist-upgrade now
[09:57] <_StarScream> Snake__: do i have to install xgl packages, or does it come with X ?
[09:57] <Snake__> steveire: Follow that wiki ( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto )
[09:58] <_StarScream> cool
[10:01] <steveire> I have gnomad2 for my creative, but it doesn't work. I'm trying to get the KDE equivalent, but adept tells me that will break something
[10:02] <steveire> Is there a dependent program I need to remove?
[10:02] <nxv__> steveire: have you started gnomad2 as root?
[10:02] <_StarScream> Snake__: if i just want the performance benifits and not the pretty graphics can i do without the compiz
[10:02] <steveire> nope, and I've already removed it.
[10:02] <steveire> IT should work yes?
[10:03] <steveire> why wouldn't I go with kzenexplorere
[10:03] <steveire> ?
[10:03] <Snake__> steveire: what preformance benefits do you get out of advanced graphics, if you dont mind me asking :)
[10:03] <Snake__> errr
[10:03] <Snake__> _StarScream: **
[10:06] <_StarScream> Snake__ i have an ibook 800 kinda laggy under X, OSX is nice..apps are faster under linux
[10:06] <_StarScream> just not dispaly
[10:06] <_StarScream> display
[10:06] <_StarScream> so i am assuming thats the only difference
[10:06] <_StarScream> by OSX is nice, i meant in terms of graphics performance
[10:06] <_StarScream> i hate the OS
[10:06] <steveire> can anyone help my adept BREAK issue?
[10:09] <klohunt> Can anyone point me to a manual where I can find out how to download the Nvidia drivers?
[10:09] <Snake__> _StarScream: Im not exactly sure what kind of boost you would get, but I would say shoot for it...
[10:09] <Snake__> _StarScream: have you considered a diffrent DM?
[10:10] <_StarScream> Snake yeh tried, gnome, kde, xfce, fluxbox they are all the same
[10:10] <_StarScream> just as laggy as each other
[10:10] <Snake__> _StarScream: there should be NO reason for Flux to be as laggy as KDE
[10:11] <_StarScream> Snake__: well thats the thing, KDE isn't laggy..its just when i flick between windows / desktops
[10:11] <_StarScream> i can see X repainting the screen
[10:11] <_patrick_> when booting x sometimes switches to the console, how can i avoid thnat?
[10:11] <Kyral> why is that a bad thing?
[10:12] <_patrick_> i mean the system switches back to the console
[10:12] <steveire> Can I mount my windows partition? I tried mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 and it didn't work
[10:12] <Kyral> !ntfs
[10:12] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:12] <_patrick_> so that i habe to press alt f7 to get back into x
[10:12] <Snake__> _StarScream: thats odd...
[10:13] <_StarScream> Snake__ don
[10:13] <_StarScream> don't get me wrong, its not really slow
[10:13] <_StarScream> its just noticable
[10:13] <_StarScream> and annoying :)
[10:14] <Snake__> ya I dunno how much the xgl server is gonna help you out
[10:15] <Snake__> you could try it tho
[10:15] <Snake__> _StarScream: have you installed the accel. 3d drivers?
[10:15] <Snake__> Tho that should be nessary
[10:15] <klohunt> About how many kubuntu users exist?
[10:15] <tijn> 2 :)
[10:15] <Snake__> klohunt: ..how many windows users exist?
[10:15] <tijn> sry lame :D
[10:15] <klohunt> Snake__ : there would be no way to tell
[10:15] <Snake__> klohunt: *nods* so what do you think about kubuntu?
[10:16] <klohunt> I think it would be MUCH easier to tell
[10:16] <Snake__> Not really, since we dont require registration.
[10:16] <Snake__> Its just a guessable as windows, or debian, or suse
[10:16] <klohunt> downloads on different IPs and stuff tho?
[10:16] <klohunt> nobody has an estimate anywhere?
[10:17] <Snake__> klohunt: ive given my friends cds ive downloaded = Uncounted
[10:17] <Snake__> klohunt: shipit = uncounted
[10:17] <Snake__> So no, not really
[10:17] <klohunt> Why would they not count how many people order CDs?
[10:17] <klohunt> it would be so easy
[10:17] <Snake__> klohunt: you could check this http://counter.li.org/
[10:18] <Snake__> but I doubt thats anywhere near the number
[10:19] <klohunt> I see
[10:19] <klohunt> much more than I thought there would be... 29 million is a significant amount of people
[10:20] <Snake__> thats also for all of linux, and I see no wait to search by distro
[10:20] <klohunt> (Even though it is an estimate)
[10:25] <nxv__> i tried to upgrade and hang now with the following problem when it comes to ubuntu-artwork
[10:25] <nxv__> No theme index file in '/usr/share/icons/default'.
[10:25] <nxv__> sudo apt-get -f install doesn't solve it
[10:25] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[10:26] <TheNightRider``> i know this is kind of crude..
[10:26] <TheNightRider``> reinstall the os :)
[10:26] <nxv__> atleast a solution ;)
[10:27] <TheNightRider``> ya
[10:27] <TheNightRider``> :)
[10:28] <nxv__> the problem is that gdm depends on ubuntu-artwork as it seems
[10:29] <TheNightRider``> yup
[10:29] <TheNightRider``> gl :)
[10:33] <steveire> can I make ubuntu play wmas?
[10:34] <_ravn> Done wit hreading documentation at kubuntu.org . I still didn't come across how to install packages downloaded from the net
[10:34] <wicked_> deb package?
[10:35] <_ravn> yeah
[10:35] <_ravn> codecs for xvid fx
[10:36] <_ravn> If u dont got the time, refering to a website guide would be great
[10:38] <_ravn> Or though! has to be durable by a dumb former windoze user.. ;)
[10:38] <wicked_> trying to find any url
[10:39] <nxv__> if you have a deb package install it with dpkg -i debpackage
[10:39] <_ravn> wicked_: Yeah, tried google.  Sry, im a bit slow with this. But my heart is in the right place, I wont give up.. ;)
[10:40] <TheNightRider``> anyone know how to add/change keyboard layouts in kubuntu 5.10
[10:40] <wicked_> i can find several encoder and decoder for xvid in adept though
[10:41] <nxv__> sudo dpkg -i yourdebpackage.deb
[10:41] <_ravn> nxv__: I downloaded the package to home. does it find it auto?
[10:41] <steveire> why is firefox v1.07 on adept and not ff v 1.5?
[10:41] <_ravn> wicked_: I've tried searching adept. but no luck. :(
[10:42] <wicked_> _ravn i think you need to aim to your home dir than write the command
[10:42] <wicked_> but anyway just try it! ;)
[10:42] <_ravn> yeah, think so too. trying, hold plz
[10:43] <nxv__> TheNightRider``: system settings -> regional & ... -> keyboard layout
[10:44] <TheNightRider``> oooh
[10:44] <TheNightRider``> thanks :))
[10:44] <thompa> koffice 1.5 rc1 was removed in an update in dapper?
[10:46] <thompa> if i try to fix it, install libmysqlclient15 kubuntu desktop is removed
[10:46] <_ravn> lol, just rightclicked the package, and chose install package, but it says "... is locked by another process"
[10:47] <_ravn> nxv__ wicked_
[10:47] <wicked_> use by another process?
[10:47] <thompa> _ravn: something else other thatn synaptic running, kpackage or something maybe
[10:47] <nxv__> _ravn: this means you have another prog like aptidue synaptic what ever open accessing the apt database
[10:48] <thompa> anyone know how to get koffice 1.5 back
[10:49] <_ravn> Yes, and now I got it to work. However, new problem. Im running kubuntu on an imac. :)
[10:49] <ClayG> http://www.overclockersclub.com/gallery/images/TheSternMystic10845924222.jpg
[10:49] <ClayG> anyone know how to remove the heatsink?
[10:51] <_ravn> Okay. so now the win32codecs is out of the question. I also downloaded the codec pack from mplayerhq. Has anyone installed this on Kubuntu?
[10:51] <sredna> There is something broken about the way kubuntu installs .desktop files. My mimetype settings are screwed up when I install someting, just because I install an application that can handle jpg images does not mean that it should be the default, and my own preferences are silently dismissed too often. Maybe it has to do with the general brokenness of the splitting of KDE modules into atoms?
[10:53] <robotgeek> sredna: no clue, sorry. you might actually know more than i do on this issue :)
[10:54] <sredna> robotgeek: I'm not sure if it's how kde collects it, or if the debian system does something odd. But I see that my choices are dismissed, which I dislike. But it could be KDE
[10:54] <sredna> It seems that it happens with some mimetypes but not all
[10:54] <_ravn> Oh god i feel like such a burden. havn't anybody installed the mplayerhq codec on kubuntu?
[10:54] <TheNightRider``> _ravn
[10:54] <TheNightRider``> whats it for?
[10:55] <_ravn> for playing xvid
[10:55] <thompa> all the koffice components are still there: kword etc, so it seems just the koffice suite thing is gone
[10:55] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[10:55] <BigA> is there a big difference between the dvd edition and the cd edition?
[10:55] <TheNightRider``> cant real player do it?
[10:55] <TheNightRider``> BigA
[10:55] <TheNightRider``> nope
[10:55] <TheNightRider``> :P
[10:55] <_ravn> real player like in the bloated adware shit u find on the net? :)
[10:56] <TheNightRider``> hmm
[10:56] <TheNightRider``> well i dont think so
[10:56] <BigA> than what does the dvd edition contain ?
[10:56] <BigA> there is still a diff of almoust 3 GB
[10:56] <thompa> !w32codecs
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:56] <_ravn> thompa: won't work. I have an imac. It is for the x386 platform
[10:57] <_ravn> Imac/kubuntu
[10:57] <thompa> oh
[10:57] <wicked_> oooh
[10:57] <_ravn> :(
[10:57] <wicked_> dont be sad
[10:57] <TheNightRider``> hey, anyone here listening to metal? ^^
[10:57] <wicked_> i wish i had one
[10:58] <wicked_> i listening to hardcore
[10:58] <TheNightRider``> _ravn, dont worry, you'll find something :)
[10:58] <thompa> i just checked my updates and have kernel headers 2.6.11 being installed?
[10:58] <TheNightRider``> wicked_ its not the same ;)
[10:58] <wicked_> hell no
[10:58] <wicked_> i dont know much about metal
[10:58] <_ravn> hehe, i know i will. Just hope u guys dont get tired of me before that
[10:58] <TheNightRider``> agree :)
[10:58] <TheNightRider``> well you should
[10:58] <TheNightRider``> its the fuckin krieg ^^
[10:59] <wicked_> are you talking about things like pantera and stratovarius and sh*t
[10:59] <TheNightRider``> nope
[10:59] <TheNightRider``> the lighter ones
[10:59] <wicked_> ok
[10:59] <Tm_T> ?
[10:59] <TheNightRider``> e.g. Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Manowar ^^
[10:59] <TheNightRider``> allthough the harder things are good too :)
[10:59] <Tm_T> pffft
[10:59] <wicked_> ho i do luv acdc though... i named my dog thunder1 ;)
[11:00] <TheNightRider``> :PP
[11:00] <TheNightRider``> heh
[11:00] <TheNightRider``> Tm_T? whats the matter? ^^
[11:00] <TheNightRider``> dont like rock?
[11:00] <_ravn> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html <- the essential codecs package has anyone installed that? and how in gods name did u do that! :D
[11:00] <TheNightRider``> do what? :D
[11:00] <wicked_> ravn ill give you my pc for your imac
[11:00] <wicked_> ;)
[11:01] <Tm_T> TheNightRider``: well, http://www.last.fm/user/Tm_T/
[11:01] <wicked_> divx preinstalled and stuff
[11:01] <wicked_> ;)
[11:01] <_ravn> wicked_: hehe, easy its only a 700mhz G4 :)
[11:01] <wicked_> no worry i got a p3 1000
[11:01] <wicked_> ;)
[11:01] <TheNightRider``> oh
[11:01] <TheNightRider``> so you do
[11:01] <TheNightRider``> ^^
[11:01] <TheNightRider``> sorry for the misunderstanding :D
[11:01] <wicked_> hey is this your head Tm_T
[11:01] <TheNightRider``> (and my bad english.. <<)
[11:02] <_ravn> wicked_: well, give me a tft screen also, and u got a deal :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> TheNightRider``: well, but I define "heavy" different than you
[11:02] <wicked_> my english isnt really good too
[11:02] <Tm_T> wicked_: I doubt
[11:02] <TheNightRider``> Tm_T, please explain :)
[11:02] <_ravn> hehe, my english suck also! But im from denmark, so.. :)
[11:02] <Tm_T> TheNightRider``: well, to me AC/DC is lighter and easier than King Crimson for example
[11:02] <wicked_> i like irish punk too
[11:03] <_ravn> wicked_:  can u do me a favour?
[11:03] <wicked_> _ravn: im in montreal
[11:03] <wicked_> what can i do
[11:03] <TheNightRider``>
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> oops
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> i mean
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> well yes, it is
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> but its still heavy metal :)
[11:03] <Tm_T> nah
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> it is ^^
[11:03] <_ravn> download the package from the site, and see how it is done, and then explain it to me. :)
[11:03] <Tm_T> heavy rock
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> the early albums
[11:03] <TheNightRider``> are hard rock
[11:04] <nico8481> i'm on a hiiiiiightwaaaaaaaay to heeeeeeeell
[11:04] <TheNightRider``> yup ^^
[11:04] <TheNightRider``> gl reaching hell, tho :D
[11:04] <Tm_T> anyway... good night ->
[11:04] <TheNightRider``> good night :)
[11:04] <nico8481> gn
[11:04] <TheNightRider``> damn 12:04 am here o.0
[11:04] <TheNightRider``> time flies...
[11:05] <wicked_> im afraid im not that good
[11:05] <_ravn> 23.05 here
[11:05] <wicked_> :S
[11:05] <wicked_> 17:05 here
[11:05] <_ravn> Hmm, thx anyway wicked_
[11:05] <TheNightRider``> lol
[11:06] <TheNightRider``> wicked_ my Konversation shows that time
[11:06] <TheNightRider``> i forgot to set my timezone
[11:06] <wicked_> isnt there any installation help on the site?
[11:06] <TheNightRider``> wicked_, where are you from?
[11:06] <_ravn> cant find any.. Nor on google
[11:06] <got2b3d> what would seg fault glxgears?
[11:07] <wicked_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=22750&file1=22750-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=gray+magic ... inned to do this with my konsole
[11:07] <wicked_> TheNightRider``: montreal
[11:08] <TheNightRider``> canada
[11:08] <TheNightRider``> nice. :P
[11:08] <wicked_> yaah montreal candian will win the stanley cup this year
[11:08] <wicked_> ;)
[11:08] <_ravn> "cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.xvid.org:/xvid login" <- what does that mean?
[11:09] <TheNightRider``> heh
[11:09] <TheNightRider``> good luck on that ;)
[11:09] <frank23> wicked_: heh. maybe ;)
[11:09] <wicked_> haha ;) where u from
[11:09] <TheNightRider``> Bulgaria :P
[11:09] <TheNightRider``> europe ^^
[11:09] <frank23> wicked_: If they beat Ottawa in the first round, I'd be pretty proud though
[11:10] <wicked_> so would i
[11:10] <TheNightRider``> hm
[11:10] <wicked_> we'll know tonight
[11:10] <TheNightRider``> never heard of bulgaria, huh ^^
[11:10] <wicked_> the thing is that ottawa as many injury
[11:10] <wicked_> TheNightRider``:  nope is there hockey down there?
[11:11] <TheNightRider``> uhh
[11:11] <TheNightRider``> i dont think so :P
[11:11] <wicked_> huhu
[11:11] <wicked_> :)
[11:11] <frank23> TheNightRider``: Bulgaria. In the Balkans?
[11:11] <TheNightRider``> yeah
[11:11] <TheNightRider``> :)
[11:11] <TheNightRider``> right on ^^
[11:12] <wicked_> hey how does your kde looks like, ive been browsing kde-looks for about 1hour trying to find something cool
[11:13] <TheNightRider``> well
[11:13] <TheNightRider``> its default
[11:13] <TheNightRider``> what do u mean "something cool" ?
[11:13] <BigA> what do you think of aLinux ?
[11:14] <TheNightRider``> never heard of it^^
[11:14] <wicked_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22750 .. this is kool to me
[11:14] <BigA> http://alinux.org/linux-os/aLinux-Crystal-Green.png
[11:15] <duckdown> How can I specify KDE utils (Like Konversation) to use a proxy.
[11:15] <wicked_> i think alinux is a great alternative for COMPLETE newb
[11:15] <TheNightRider``> well
[11:15] <TheNightRider``> im a complete newb ^^
[11:16] <wicked_> alinux is like a window clone
[11:16] <wicked_> in my opinion
[11:16] <wicked_> i wont be surprise if thats were one of their objective to create a window like os
[11:16] <TheNightRider``> hmmm
[11:17] <TheNightRider``> its nice :)
[11:17] <wicked_> personaly that does attrack me... when i first made the jump to linux was to escape microsoft
[11:17] <wicked_> doesnt*
[11:18] <wicked_> geez my english is bad
[11:18] <TheNightRider``> well
[11:18] <frank23> yeah the feeling is not anti-Microsoft really. more like anti-crap
[11:18] <TheNightRider``> macroschitt sucks
[11:18] <wicked_> winblows
[11:18] <to3> how can any 1 complian about windows
[11:19] <to3> man it blows linux for ease of use
[11:19] <wicked_> $$$$$$$$$ and i dont think it offers really much more than kde
[11:19] <wicked_> to3: well im not looking for easyness
[11:19] <wicked_> i like the source world
[11:19] <to3> yeah but thts what peeps want
[11:20] <wicked_> i wasnt giving the peeps opinion but mine though
[11:20] <to3> ok :)
[11:20] <wicked_> but i agree that mom and grandma like easyness
[11:20] <wicked_> im not really seeing them trying to compile stuff
[11:21] <to3> yeah, i love linux, specially debian based etc.....but i would love to have installshield as well lol
[11:21] <wicked_> but if you use linux for a couple of year i bet it might become as easy for you as winblows is
[11:22] <to3> nothing can veat a click of the mouse :P
[11:22] <wicked_> thats quickness not easyness :)
[11:23] <wicked_> and all those virus
[11:23] <wicked_> gooood
[11:23] <wicked_> spyware and stuff
[11:23] <wicked_> ouf!
[11:23] <wicked_> its like evil to me
[11:31] <slow-motion> n8
[11:32] <solt> Hello! Anyone using monodevelop. I have monodevelop 0.7 here on breezy and I know there is 0.10 out there, but they provide sources and rpms. Anyone knows if there is a repository with monodevelop 0.10 for breezy?
[11:46] <_harm> when using Mplayer how can i make the movie file the size of the entire screen? full screen just fills up the emptyness with a color :S
[11:49] <My8os> _harm: go to preferences->video and choose the driver that does what u want
[11:49] <My8os> just choose one and test it every time
[11:49] <_harm> uMy8os thx
[11:53] <Bambino_> Hi people, I am using KDE and I have two questions. My first question is, how do i change screen resolution. My second question is, any possiublity in Konversation to actually highlight my nick whenppl talk to me?
[11:54] <Random_Transit> hey, is there any way i can get Windows Apps that use things like .NET and DirectX to work under WINE?
[11:55] <jeff_> Bambino_: yeah i think konversation already does highlight names, you can change the resolution by right clicking the desktop, 'configure desktop'
[11:55] <Tm_T> Random_Transit: if you're really lucky
[11:55] <jeff_> Bambino_: then 'display'
[11:55] <Bambino_> thanks
[11:55] <jeff_> Bambion_: did it highlight your name?
[11:55] <jeff_> Bambino_: did it highlight your name?
[11:56] <jeff_> random_transit: no i dont think its possible to get direct x working on linux
[11:56] <Bambino_> jeff_: i found how to, was in configuration. I was looking in configuration for notificcations which was wrong, got it now thanks
[11:57] <jeff_> random_transit: at least not that i know of. i think M$ works pretty hard to make sure that direct x doesnt work on linux
[11:57] <jeff_> bambino_: ok cool
[11:58] <jeff_> does anybody know if its possible to get gdesklets working on kde?
[11:59] <_ravn> What is "cvs" ?
[11:59] <jeff_> _ravn: i think it means the bleeding edge version of whatever app you're talking about
[12:00] <Random_Transit> what about .NET?
[12:00] <jeff_> _ravn: like the newest possible build. cvs isnt recommended for beginners, it usually has bugs
[12:00] <jeff_> random_transit:i dont know about .NET
[12:01] <_ravn> jeff_:  ty, just what I needed to hear.. :) (being a noob and all.. )
[12:01] <ipfw> Has it been over a week since Breezy had _any_ updates ?
[12:01] <jeff_> _ravn: lol np
[12:01] <Random_Transit> i thought cedega could emulate DX...
[12:01] <ipfw> I haven't got any software upgrades _forever_ it seems (I know a week or more)
[12:02] <Random_Transit> does anyone know if GNOME 2.14 is in the breezy repos yet?
[12:02] <jeff_> does anybody know if its possible to get gdesklets on the kde deasktop?