[06:11] <Vilhelms> phixnay, Try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:11] <pavs> kill devsum?
[06:11] <pavs> kill debsum?
[06:11] <dilch> pavs how about 'kill -9 devsum'
[06:11] <dilch> or whatever it's called
[06:11] <Vilhelms> phixnay, I haven't tried installing an nVidia card but thats a guide similar to what I used for my ATI :)
[06:11] <posingaspopular> Mixx: I know there is a way to check what is going on during your boot during your text
[06:11] <posingaspopular> did you try that, or know anything about that
[06:11] <phixnay> Vilhelms: I installed nvidia legacy the way it describes, and I get the nvidia splash screen on boot
[06:11] <pavs> bash: kill: debsum: arguments must be process or job IDs
[06:11] <dilch> phixnay computer says no
[06:11] <peshalto> i remember the clothes-washers used to wash at the river... dhobis, is that the word?
[06:12] <dilch> pavs lol, yeah look up to pid with top
[06:12] <dilch> s/to/the
[06:12] <phixnay> vilhelms: the problem is when I do "$ glxinfo | grep rendering" I get
[06:12] <phixnay> "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[06:12] <koregaonpark> peshalto im-nig you
[06:12] <dilch> pavs if that fails 'ps auxwww|grep debsum'
[06:12] <pavs> ah it stopped by itself:)
[06:12] <Vilhelms> phixnay, I'm not too sure about that =\
[06:12] <dilch> pavs it musta read your mind
[06:13] <phixnay> Vilhelms: ok
[06:13] <pavs> what does it do debsum checks? it not in the top list
[06:13] <dilch> i heard ubuntu does have telepathic qualities
[06:13] <dilch> pavs i don't know. i use freebsd
[06:13] <pavs> ah
[06:13] <pavs> better?
[06:13] <dilch> pavs not the place to comment
[06:13] <pavs> ok sorry
[06:14] <dilch> pavs in other words .. yes!
[06:14] <dilch> ;)
[06:14] <pavs> gotcha no more comments
[06:14] <britt_> trackpad tapping gets disabled only after i login and then kill X and re-login...what gives?
[06:14] <koregaonpark> peshalto, i gotta run... email me if u want....my nick (kp) @gmail.com
[06:15] <dilch> I had a fiesty fawn, but i slapped it into shape, now it's a humbled doe
[06:15] <dilch> much better, not so many dependency problems
[06:16] <dilch> in fact, many of the so-called 'problems' on here could be solved by repeatedly slapping your OS. At a bit level, of course
[06:16] <gerald> can someone tell me which package to download for gtk+ development?
[06:18] <seeds> please i need someone who can tell me how to add windows xp to the grub list
[06:18] <posingaspopular> seeds: whats the problem
[06:18] <posingaspopular> erm by that i mean more details
[06:18] <seeds> i reinstalled ubuntu and i can't see windows xp in the grub menu
[06:18] <zorba64> so the would be Bit Slapping I suppose?
[06:18] <Flannel> seeds: what partition is windows on?
[06:19] <seeds> so i can boot into windows now
[06:19] <seeds> i can't i meant
[06:19] <posingaspopular> can you find your partion table?
[06:19] <seeds> it's all there in a different partition
[06:19] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[06:19] <GigaClon> I start up audacity and the fonts look crappy, all aliased and blocky
[06:19] <GigaClon> oops
[06:19] <Flannel> seeds: which partition
[06:20] <seeds> how can i know that?
[06:20] <GigaClon> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <seeds> /dev/hda1
[06:20] <marduk> grub babies
[06:21] <Flannel> seeds: you'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, scroll ALL the way down, to after where it says "end automagic kernels", then paste the following ni there
[06:21] <seeds> ok i'm in menu.lst
[06:21] <ReKlipz> hey guys, how do i find out the amount / type of ram installed on a linux box?
[06:21] <dilch> ReKlipz 'dmesg|less'
[06:21] <dilch> ReKlipz look carefully for the memory sections
[06:22] <ReKlipz> 511MB LOWMEM available
[06:22] <ReKlipz> nice, thx
[06:22] <seeds> flannel: what should i paste?
[06:22] <dilch> ReKlipz i'm here to help
[06:22] <ReKlipz> i just bought this box
[06:22] <dilch> ReKlipz you can pay by direct deposit
[06:22] <Flannel> seeds: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5678/
[06:23] <Flannel> seeds: without the numbers, those are a biproduct of the pastebin
[06:23] <dilch> ReKlipz well, you can find out a lot just by looking at dmesg
[06:23] <dilch> ReKlipz then you can get into the /proc directory
[06:23] <ReKlipz> a 21" CRT (IBM P202), a keyboard and mouse, 1.4GHz Intel Centrino, 512MB PC600, 20GB IDE, DVD/CDROM, nVidia QUadro2
[06:23] <ReKlipz> all for 20$
[06:23] <dilch> report back to me
[06:24] <dilch> ReKlipz i hate to tell you ... a monitor isn't part of a 'box'
[06:24] <dilch> you lied
[06:24] <seeds> flannel: should i paste that after : ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[06:24] <ReKlipz> actually, i got 2 of the putes, and 2 p202, and 1 p96 monitor, and a p76
[06:24] <Flannel> seeds: yes, after that.
[06:24] <seeds> ok
[06:24] <ReKlipz> dilch, agreed, which is why im not using the monitor
[06:24] <seeds> i'll try it now. brb. thank you very much
[06:24] <gerald> can someone tell me which package to download for gtk development??
[06:24] <dilch> ReKlipz ah ok, i forgive you then
[06:24] <dilch> gerald computer says no
[06:24] <ReKlipz> dilch, lol, but still ,a good deal, no?
[06:24] <Audimage> how do i mount an NTFS drive, and what text should i add to fstab to perminently mount it
[06:25] <dilch> ReKlipz an excellent deal. So good it makes me jealous/angry and i don't wish to discuss it further
[06:25] <ardchoille> df(1), dpkf(1)  <-- what does the (1) mean?
[06:25] <dilch> Audimage remember it is experimental to mount ntfs read/write ... use caution
[06:25] <ReKlipz> dilch, i think ur just mad that im not gonna deposit ne money to ur account, that of which you never posted ur info for
[06:25] <UntouchableMX__> exit
[06:26] <dilch> sorry "Big Papa Enterprises,<PHONE_NUMBER>676, National Bank of Australia"
[06:26] <zorba64> gerald, mess about with apt-cache search and you'll find something
[06:26] <frogzoo> gerald: apt-cache search gtk |grep -i devel
[06:26] <ReKlipz> k, gotta go kids, thx dilch
[06:26] <dilch> every correct answer or successful troll is 75 cents
[06:26] <Flannel> ardchoille: man man gives information on that, they're categories.  "man 1 df" for intsance, shows df(1)
[06:27] <dilch> ciao
[06:27] <ReKlipz> ah, ok dilch, that'll get there sometime in the year 2053
[06:27] <ReKlipz> =)
[06:27] <ReKlipz> later guys
[06:27] <dilch> and then once you learn to do 'man whatever' you get the joy of learning how to read them
[06:27] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, thanks
[06:27] <ReKlipz> dilch, =)!!!
[06:27] <ReKlipz> gotta go 4 reals no
[06:27] <ReKlipz> now
[06:27] <dilch> read *carefully*, the man pages usually give everything you need, including examples
[06:27] <ReKlipz> adios
[06:28] <dilch> ReKlipz ciao again
[06:28] <dilch> the new ubuntu way is no spoonfeeding, so the man pages are your best friend
[06:28] <dilch> Mark Shuttleworth has said it's the 'tough love' phase
[06:29] <marduk> what about sporkfeeding?
[06:29] <dilch> sporks are borderline
[06:29] <dilch> if the prongs dig into the mouth, that's ok
[06:29] <Potti> I have an issue with installing new software i get this "E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[06:29] <Potti> " what do i do
[06:30] <dilch> Potti hmm, you are trying to defraud the movie industry
[06:30] <Potti> who me = P
[06:30] <crimsun> !restricted |Potti
[06:30] <ubotu> Potti: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Potti> nah
[06:30] <dilch> Potti there is no other reason for libdvdcss2
[06:30] <reverendnathan> What are alternitives to Archive Manager and XArchive? Archive Manager asks for a password (there isn't any), and XArchive extracts... but then doesn't output a file! For .r00 files.
[06:31] <Potti> well reading a tut on how to play dvds it gave me this line to write which i did and go that
[06:31] <dilch> Potti but the real answer is you need the source
[06:31] <dilch> Potti the repository that has the library
[06:32] <Potti> so go there and do what cause i wanna be able to watch dvds
[06:32] <dilch> Potti do you know anything about repositories?
[06:32] <mosh_> what is the exquivialnt the setfont command for gentoo in ubuntu? i am trying to change the virtual console font to 8x8
[06:32] <Potti> not really
[06:32] <zorba64> reverendnathan, .rar file?
[06:32] <dilch> Potti then ask here. But not me. I don't handle repository/sources.list questions anymore
[06:32] <GigaClon> reverandnathan, try renaming the .r00 file to rar
[06:33] <reverendnathan> zorba64: Yes, RARchives from usenet/newsgroups
[06:33] <Potti> z0mg im so cunfused
[06:33] <GigaClon> then point it to next file when needed
[06:33] <Potti> i just wanna be able to watch dvds & play mp3s in order to do that what must i et and how
[06:33] <dilch> Potti say this .. "how do install libdvdcss2??? What repositories do i have to add, and how do i do that?????"
[06:33] <GigaClon> Potti, it can be confusing at first
[06:33] <frogzoo> mosh_: /etc/default/console-setup - look for FONTFACE
[06:33] <gerald> i don't even know how to tell whether it's the right package to download or not
[06:33] <dilch> Potti try that now
[06:34] <mosh_> frogzoo: tym
[06:34] <zorba64> install rar & unrar, then run: unrar e on the first file and it should uncompress and join em
[06:34] <gerald> libglib1.2-dev
[06:34] <Potti> how do install libdvdcss2??? What repositories do i have to add, and how do i do that?????
[06:34] <gerald> gyessing it's this
[06:34] <GigaClon> !restricted > Potti
[06:34] <posingaspopular> someone is going to have to walk him through this
[06:34] <dilch> Potti now read what the nice person has directed your way
[06:34] <GigaClon> Potti read your Private messages
[06:35] <Potti> yes im reading
[06:35] <Potti> tahnk you
[06:35] <marduk> u need to add the correct suppository for that pkg
[06:35] <dilch> it's easier than it may seem
[06:35] <GigaClon> !repos > Potti
[06:35] <dilch> and an essential skill for any ubuntu-er
[06:35] <reverendnathan> zorba64: Trying now
[06:35] <dilch> excellent, i finally got Vista running under wine
[06:36] <ullvarg_> any advice for a good program to burn isofiles?
[06:37] <AdamBerg> i can seem to get my sound card to work, it works on the live cd and i see that it recognizes the card
[06:37] <AdamBerg> can't*
[06:37] <dilch> ullvarg i use mkisofs and cdrecord .. i understand this is not the ubuntu way :(
[06:37] <gerald> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[06:37] <gerald> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:37] <gerald> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[06:38] <frogzoo> AdamBerg: 5$ says you have a mute somewhere - sys -> prefs -> vol control - look under file -> device & edit -> prefernces
[06:38] <gerald> anyone know what to do with this?
[06:38] <dilch> now i can finally run tcpdump with Aero
[06:38] <B_166-ER-X> I just installed an edgy on a dell destkop system, but on kernel boot it shows for a very short time 'PCI : cannot allocate region.. ' and i cannot get internet on the pc , the installation is complete , but still, no internet, cans someone please help me figure ou the problem ? (I'm on another pc )
[06:38] <AdamBerg> by volume control do you mean "sound"
[06:38] <frogzoo> gerald: you install libgtk2.0-dev ?
[06:38] <dilch> ullvarg but ask again, i'm sure someone knows of a good front-end for cdrecord
[06:38] <gerald> yea
[06:38] <gerald> from apt-get
[06:39] <jordanau> i am using my ubuntu box to play movies on my tv, i cant get the movies to show up on the television screen although everything else shows up fine i think it is a primary/secondary monitor issue, any advice?
[06:39] <ullvarg_> ok, thanks dilch
[06:39] <gerald> oh wait
[06:39] <gerald> no
[06:39] <frogzoo> AdamBerg: sorry, I mean sound -> volume control
[06:39] <gerald> i must've installed something else
[06:39] <valehru__> Hey guys, How can I update the MPD database?  Currently it only has one directory in the playlist, I added new directories to the music folder but they are not coming into the clients playlist
[06:40] <duckdown> Hi all.  Unusual request here, but it would b ehighly appreciated.  I dont understand awk/sed/grep hardly, but my router logs show lines like "Feb 13 21:39:02  user.warn kernel: DROP IN=vlan1 OUT= MAC=00:18:f8:d2:4a:2c:00:05:00:e2:1b:04:08:00:45:00:00:30 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=120 ID=45005 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1625 DPT=39394 SEQ=498699090 ACK=0 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x"  How can I show ONLY the "DRO
[06:40] <ComradeC> is there a way to easily upgrade to a new kernel like 2.6.20?
[06:40] <duckdown> P: SRC= , SPT= , and DPT= "
[06:40] <dilch> ullvarg or do a google for 'ubuntu cdrecord front-end'
[06:40] <dilch> duckdown heh, you could do it many ways. What parts do you want?
[06:41] <dilch> duckdown i can't tell ... you want the IPs and ports?
[06:41] <duckdown> dilch, I guess the "DROP" and SRC= addy, the SPT= port, and the DST= port
[06:41] <frogzoo> duckdown: an interesting, highly pertinent to ubuntu, question...
[06:41] <duckdown> would be an awesome start
[06:41] <duckdown> frogzoo, well im using it :( sorry then
[06:41] <duckdown> i dont know where else to ask
[06:41] <jordanau> duckdown, man grep and look under patterns it should you can refine it from there
[06:41] <dilch> frogzoo it's not ubuntu specific, but at least it's an interesting question for once
[06:41] <duckdown> dilch, thanks! :D
[06:41] <dilch> duckdown naw, well awk it for you.
[06:42] <duckdown> beauty
[06:42] <AdamBerg> doesn't appear to be working
[06:42] <gerald> ok, i got gtk to work,thanks guys
[06:42] <dilch> duckdown i'll report back in PM, so ppl don't get mad
[06:42] <AdamBerg> master up
[06:42] <AdamBerg> pcm up
[06:42] <duckdown> dilch, thanks alot man!! :)
[06:42] <cj_> hello
[06:42] <cj_> hola
[06:43] <AdamBerg> when i click sound playback should i hear a tone?
[06:43] <jellobean> installing ubuntu, and I receive the error..."no common cd rom drive detected" any ideas
[06:44] <duckdown> how are you booting the installcd? :)
[06:44] <jellobean> i put the cd in and it boots up...my bios recognizes my drive as well
[06:44] <ComradeC> is there a way for me to update the kernel to 2.6.20 without doing crazy configuration, like can I just add it to the apt-get?
[06:47] <shiv> why do I have this folder in my home folder: shadymahn
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown you don't seem to answer PMs
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown this distresses me greatly
[06:48] <duckdown> wha?
[06:48] <duckdown> no! :( i am sorry man
[06:48] <GMWeezel> I need to install an nVidia driver but I have to close x-server; how do I do that?
[06:48] <duckdown> i only saw 2
[06:48] <dilch> duckdown lol, ok i pasted it again for you. see it?>
[06:49] <duckdown> no man, i only see 2 PM's
[06:49] <duckdown> a "hey" and "are you there"
[06:49] <duckdown> i
[06:49] <duckdown> i'm asking you " can you see this? " in PM
[06:49] <dilch> duckdown you must not be registered :)
[06:50] <duckdown> stupid thing is telling me its blocking my messages in PM, sorry about that.. I am registered, i guess not auth'ed
[06:50] <corevette> is there a good repository for updating ktorrent? the ubuntu one is out of date
[06:50] <jellobean> Hi everyone, I'm an absolute linux newbie and am trying to install warty on a new system that already has XP installed. I am able to get the image CD to boot up and enter my language and keyboard layout. I then get a screen with a header "Detect and Mount CD-Rom" and the message "No common CD-Rom drive was detected". The prompt then asks for floppies containing the CD-Rom drivers. The message further insinuates that I may have non-st
[06:50] <AzMoo> warty? Why Warty?
[06:51] <maxi_> jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[06:51] <corevette> jellobean...why warty?
[06:51] <nevron> do i need kubuntu to run kde?
[06:51] <jellobean> sorry meant to say ubuntu
[06:51] <mssever> nevron: no
[06:52] <mssever> nevron: just install kubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <mssever> or, you could install only kde
[06:52] <nevron> is there a difference in performance under kde?
[06:52] <mssever> vs. Gnome?
[06:52] <cj_> hi
[06:52] <mssever> I haven't used KDE enough to know
[06:53] <cj_> pls help me
[06:53] <nevron> ok mssever thank you for your help
[06:53] <cj_> i'm having problem with my apache
[06:53] <cj_> apache2
[06:53] <brombomb> What can I use to play a .bin video file?
[06:53] <mssever> cj_: what sort of problem?
[06:54] <brombomb> In windows I use VLC but it doesn seem to have that codec installed now
[06:54] <cj_> mssever: a'm i acedentally delete it in /etc/
[06:54] <posingaspopular> the difference is that KDE rocks
[06:54] <corevette> is there a list of repositories somewhere?
[06:54] <mssever> cj_: you mean the apache2 folder?
[06:54] <jordanau> i how do i make videos play on my tv with s video out?
[06:54] <cj_> yes mssever
[06:54] <Maizen> Hey i am having problems installing ubuntu. I created 2 partition. 1 for swap (1GB) and 1 is unformatted that i used for "/" but I get a "root must be used" error when clicking next
[06:54] <mssever> cj_: The easiest thing is to reinstall apache2
[06:55] <posingaspopular> Maizen: I got this
[06:55] <brombomb> jordanau: If its SVGA then you can use VLC with the SVGA library
[06:55] <cj_> after i remove it using apt-get command
[06:55] <posingaspopular> check out my blog about this error
[06:55] <mssever> cj_: yes
[06:55] <posingaspopular> posingaspopular.wordpress.com
[06:55] <posingaspopular> there is a link to the bug report on what the problem is
[06:55] <duckdown> thanks alot dilch  :D
[06:55] <cj_> i also remove the folder
[06:55] <duckdown> that awk worked nice
[06:55] <posingaspopular> exact bug i mean
[06:55] <jordanau> brombomb, so it is not an issue with my xorg, it is specific to mplayer and totem?
[06:55] <posingaspopular> if that doesnt help PM me back here
[06:55] <duckdown> i gotta learn that for sure
[06:56] <duckdown> much appreciated
[06:56] <dilch> duckdown my pleasure. Not an ubuntu question, but at least an interesting one :)
[06:56] <seravitae> anyone here use 955resolution package?
[06:56] <Potti> i followd those tuts and the ending is screwd for i cant seem to install libdvdcss it tells me "error : dependency is not satifiable"
[06:56] <stinger_au> Question:how do you add something to the default run level in ubuntu ? like in gento its rc-update add foo default
[06:56] <cj_> then after i reinstall the apache2 i have an error
[06:56] <seravitae> 915 i mea
[06:56] <cj_> like this
[06:56] <dilch> duckdown now, go forth and track those that are attacking your machine
[06:56] <duckdown> dilch, i try :D
[06:56] <cj_>  * Starting apache 2.0 web server...                                                                                apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:56] <cj_>                                                                                [fail]
[06:56] <duckdown> dilch, will do man, will be much easier thanks to you
[06:56] <duckdown> cheers!
[06:56] <cj_> mssever:
[06:56] <dilch> :)
[06:56] <brombomb> jordanau: never used totem or mplayer.... I just happened to see this while looking for something similiar juust 2 seconds ago
[06:57] <mssever> cj_: did you purge apache?
[06:57] <mssever> cj_: sudo aptitude purge apache2
[06:57] <cj_> yes mssever
[06:58] <cj_> i use Sudo command
[06:58] <mssever> cj_: and reinstalling it didn't recreate /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[06:58] <cj_> ya mssever
[06:59] <mssever> cj_: weird... are you sure you used the command I gave you? sudo isn't much of a command by itself
[06:59] <penius> I just installed the apache2 package using apt, but when I try to use the RewriteEngine on directive, apache doesn't recognize it... do I need to install mod_rewrite some other way?
[06:59] <cj_> ok i'll try it again
[07:00] <kgoetz> penius: its probably in a seperate package
[07:00] <penius> I thought so, but apt-cache search mod_rewrite turns up nothing relevant :(
[07:00] <mssever> penius: make sure that the symlink is set up correctly in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[07:00] <Maizen> posingaspopular: so if you create an "ext 3" partition and format it, it should work?
[07:01] <cj_> apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:01] <cj_> mssever:
[07:01] <cj_> still
[07:01] <penius> ah ,that seems to be the problem, thanks
[07:01] <cj_> theres a error
[07:01] <cj_> fail
[07:01] <BBHoss_> permissions?
[07:02] <koregaonpark> hey, i'm still trying to figure out how to disable the splash screen in edgy. i believe it's slowing down my boot time.
[07:02] <corevette> where do i find the: php executable path
[07:02] <kgoetz> cj_: run `ls -lh /etc/apache2/apache2.conf`
[07:02] <mssever> cj_: does the directory /etc/apache2 exist now?
[07:02] <valehru__> Hey peeps, how can i update mpd so that it recognises that new files has been added to the folder?
[07:02] <koregaonpark> can someone tell me what i have to change in my menu.lst?
[07:02] <cj_> do i need to to run that command using sudo
[07:02] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: remove the 'splash'
[07:02] <jordanau> brombomb, was there something i need to do after installing the svga libraries?
[07:02] <posingaspopular> yea iirc
[07:03] <brombomb> Are you using VLC?
[07:03] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, okay... looking..
[07:03] <posingaspopular> im still getting the hang of partioning myself
[07:03] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, this line? "# defoptions=quiet splash"
[07:03] <brombomb> jordnaau: Are you using VLC?
[07:03] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: yes, and also on in the 'do not change this bit' bit
[07:03] <cj_> yes it exist
[07:04] <cj_> mssever:
[07:04] <kgoetz> you change it on that line for the next update, the others so it takes effet now
[07:04] <jordanau> jordanau, yeah still doesnt show on my tv
[07:04] <mssever> cj_ what about /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[07:04] <brombomb> Jordanau: sorry Im out of ideas....
[07:04] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, removed that line. this one too? "root=UUID=cd7eb660-1de1-460e-916d-7f9a2bc98b3a ro quiet splash"
[07:04] <jordanau> okay  i think it is an issue with xorg
[07:05] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: no no, dont remove it, just remove 'splash' from the line
[07:05] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, okay!
[07:05] <justdave> bushblows: hey, I managed to get ahold of the vendor....  (the ethernet card that didn't show up)
[07:05] <cj_> the apache.conf does not exist mssever
[07:05] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, so just the word "splash"? leave "ro quiet"?
[07:05] <GMWeezel> How do I close X-Server?
[07:05] <noodles12> i'm creating a new session for xgl in kde. what is kde's equivalent to gnome-session?
[07:05] <cj_> i mean the apache2.conf does not exist mssever
[07:05] <justdave> bushblows: they said to turn the thing off, unplug the ethernet and the power for 15 seconds, and then plug it all back in and turn it back on.
[07:05] <bfdhud> Hello, I recently installed Java5 plugin and java 5 runtime, I failed to accept the EULA and now java does not work on my system. I have tried removing and reinstalling but it still does not work
[07:05] <justdave> and believe it or not, that worked.
[07:06] <bfdhud> anyone have any suggestions or able to help
[07:06] <kgoetz> koregaonpark: quiet reduces the amount of text output. you can leave it or keep it at your option
[07:06] <justdave> eth0 magically showed up
[07:06] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, just reinstall java, it should work
[07:06] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: close?
[07:06] <koregaonpark> kgoetz, oh thanks for the info, ill leave it in.
[07:06] <mssever> ok, so it needs to be re-created... not sure the best way to do it. I'm puzzled why aptitude didn't fix it, cj_
[07:06] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: Yes; I still need terminal access though; it's to install a video card driver.
[07:07] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: sudo /etc/init.d/x11<tab> stop
[07:07] <bfdhud> koregaonpark, I have, It doesn't give me the option to accept the EULA again, and when I go to java sites (ie dslreports speed test) the applet won't load
[07:07] <Seveas> bfdhud, try marking it for complete removal in synaptic
[07:07] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: press tab key, dont type <tab>
[07:07] <mssever> cj_: try sudo aptitude purge apache2 purge && sudo aptitude install apache2
[07:07] <cj_> do you think i need to remove it then install it again mssever
[07:07] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: Thanks.
[07:07] <bfdhud> seveas, how do I know which packages are part of the java 5 set to remove?
[07:07] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, how did you install java in the first place? via add/remove or the terminal?
[07:07] <Seveas> bfdhud, everything that starts with sun-java
[07:07] <bfdhud> Koregaonpark add/remove
[07:07] <mssever> cj_: yes, and post any errors you get in the install
[07:08] <Maizen> is there any other partition program in ubuntu that i can use besides the one that came with the installer???
[07:08] <posingaspopular> yea
[07:08] <cj_> ok mssever
[07:08] <kgoetz> Maizen: parted?
[07:08] <posingaspopular> ummm sgrub, supergrub i think it's called
[07:08] <Maizen> parted?
[07:08] <GMWeezel> kgoetz: My GUI is till running.
[07:08] <posingaspopular> that didnt work?
[07:08] <penius> ok... I just apt-ge install'd apache2, but it looks like I'll need to build apache 2.2 from source instead... can I safely remove my apache 2.0 packages? if so, how?
[07:08] <posingaspopular> gparted
[07:08] <Maizen> gparted is the one that came with the installer
[07:08] <kgoetz> GMWeezel: and `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop`
[07:08] <posingaspopular> ahhh
[07:09] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, okay, then go back, make sure java is unticked, hit apply, and then tick the options again and it should reinstall. otherwise you'll have to ask someone how to install java 5 via the terminal
[07:09] <penius> apt-get remove, is this safe?
[07:09] <mssever> penius: you should be able to remove apache2 just like any other package
[07:09] <bfdhud> seveas according to synaptic they are not installed
[07:09] <posingaspopular> give me a se
[07:09] <posingaspopular> sec
[07:09] <mssever> penius: yes
[07:09] <penius> okay... I think i am just being paranoid... I did it a billion times back on debian :)
[07:09] <Seveas> bfdhud, then do dpkg -P packagename_here
[07:09] <bfdhud> koregaonpark I have installed/uninstalled two times, I have even deleted the .java folder in my home directory
[07:09] <Seveas> for all sun java packages
[07:09] <posingaspopular> did my suggestion not work?
[07:09] <LordFloppy> does anyone know if i have to find and install gdmsetuptool to deal with certain theme packages? Cause I couldnt find it
[07:10] <bfdhud> Seveas, It's asking for an option
[07:11] <Potti> can i get any help with installing wine on 6.10
[07:11] <Seveas> bfdhud, what did you type?
[07:11] <cj_> mssever: theirs no error upon installation
[07:11] <posingaspopular> super grub
[07:11] <posingaspopular> might work
[07:11] <mssever> cj_: so, does it work now?
[07:11] <bfdhud> sudo dpkg -P sun-java5-bin
[07:11] <valehru__> Hey guys, whats the best mpd client out there?
[07:11] <penius> crap... that looks like it was a pretty messy uninstall, which is what I was worried about... /etc/apache2 is still around, and so is apache2ctl
[07:11] <Seveas> bfdhud, odd, that should work...
[07:11] <bfdhud> sorry seveas i forgot the -P
[07:11] <Seveas> heh :)
[07:11] <penius> I'm just worried it'll have left behind some bits of cruft which'll interfere with my apache 2.2 install
[07:11] <koregaonpark> bfdhud, i'm not an experienced linux user. i would check the ubuntu wiki and see if the directions there are of any help. here's the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:12] <Seveas> penius, remov apach2-common
[07:12] <mssever> penius: if you're installing from source, just delete all that stuff
[07:12] <penius> Seveas: thanks!
[07:12] <cj_>  * Starting apache 2.0 web server...                                                                                apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:12] <cj_>                                                                                [fail]
[07:12] <Seveas> penius, you'll need to purge it as well to get rid of /etc/apache2
[07:12] <kgoetz> cj_: have you checked if the file exists?
[07:12] <penius> k
[07:13] <cj_> does not exist kgoetz
[07:13] <bfdhud> Seveas it said it was removing config files
[07:13] <mssever> cj_: just noticed what Seveas just said. try removing and reinstalling apache2-common
[07:13] <Seveas> bfdhud, then you can reinstall now and it should ask the question again
[07:14] <bfdhud> Seveas, whats the best way to reinstall? synaptic or add/remove (there seems to be more options in synaptic
[07:14] <Seveas> bfdhud, doesn't matter
[07:14] <cj_> yes mssever
[07:15] <bp847> is there any way to resize an ntfs partition using the ubuntu livecd without losing data, or should I use the gparted livecd for partitioning and go from there?
[07:15] <blicket> question here..I just tried to load ubuntu on my 2nd pc(p4,256mb), it gets stuck halfway through the startup, always. Right after the left-right animation, then it goes dark.  does anyone know if it's my machine?
[07:15] <mssever> cj_: in fact, you might want to open up Synaptic, search for apache2, and purge anything that shows up as installed, then start over
[07:15] <bfdhud> Seveas no dice still not working properly :(
[07:15] <ctford> is anything dire likely to happen to me if i try and use feisty packages with edgy?
[07:16] <mssever> cj_: 'cause apache2.conf isn't easy to manually reconstruct
[07:16] <blicket> there's blinking prompt at the very top left corner..and it's stuck there
[07:16] <mssever> ctford: maybe
[07:16] <init2null> Hi guys. I restarted my computer and, although the session manager comes up, KDE and Gnome refuse to start.
[07:17] <mssever> ctford: better to compile feisty packages from source
[07:17] <ctford> mssever: but not definitely? :)
[07:17] <LordFloppy> @blicket- you may have a corrupt installer cd
[07:17] <mssever> ctford: depends on the package and what dependencies it has
[07:17] <jordanau> how do i set my tv to be my primary monitor?
[07:17] <blicket> @lordfloppy thanks i'm running the media check right now
[07:17] <ctford> mssever: the edgy vlc mozilla plugin doesn't load media at all for me. the vlc guys advised me to try the feisty version.
[07:18] <mssever> ctford: but most of those dependencies are solvable if you compile from source
[07:18] <bfdhud> seveas am I wrong in assuming that the java 5.0 runtime and plugin would make dslreports work in Mozilla?
[07:18] <init2null> I get an error message about the process running setuid when I try to start KDE or Gnome.
[07:18] <init2null> any ideas?
[07:18] <mssever> ctford: dunno about that one. If you don't have to install or upgrade any deps, it sould be safe
[07:19] <ctford> mssever: hmm yeah. i don't think it would screw up anything serious if it did go wrong anyway... (famous last words :p)
[07:19] <mssever> ctford: whatever you do, don't use the feisty version of libc6
[07:19] <paul__> hey anyone here use Pulseaudio
[07:20] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[07:20] <mssever> ctford: I broke my machine that way, trying to use an edgy package on dapper
[07:20] <ctford> mssever: aha :) i'll steer clear of that one then
[07:20] <n2diy> mssever: amen to Dapper"
[07:21] <valehru__> hey guys, would having ipv6 slow down my machine?
[07:21] <n2diy> valehru__: yes
[07:21] <LordFloppy> you might try openDNS thought
[07:21] <valehru__> ahh k...
[07:21] <valehru__> was wondering why it was slowing up..
[07:22] <ctford> mssever: one last question. if packages have the same name in edgy and feisty, how would the conflict be resolved if i added the feisty repos?
[07:22] <valehru__> LordFloppy, pointless for me considering my location.  I'm based in China at the moment...
[07:22] <n2diy> valehru__:  it isn't fully employed yet.
[07:22] <LordFloppy> nevermind
[07:22] <seeds> hello. i need some help please. I can't set the hour in ubuntu it says that i can't do that
[07:23] <cj_> so what should i do mssever
[07:23] <mssever> ctford: it would try to install the latest version. If you just switch your repos and upgrade, you'll mostly wind up with a feisty machine
[07:23] <seeds> it says: "the configuration could not be loaded"
[07:23] <LordFloppy> @seeds- you need to be in admin account
[07:23] <mssever> cj_: have you followed my suggestion about synaptic?
[07:23] <seeds> how do i do that?
[07:24] <ctford> mssever: ok. thanks for the help.
[07:24] <mssever> ctford: np
[07:24] <bfdhud> Seveas, Azureus works, just not Firefox? Is there another package I need
[07:24] <LordFloppy> did you set up an administrator account other than "oem" when you originally set up your machine?
[07:25] <seeds> i think i did
[07:25] <LordFloppy> I think you might better off looking in the ubuntu forums
[07:26] <seeds> i add my name to the sudoers file
[07:26] <seeds> but it didn't work
[07:26] <Nushio> Hey LordFloppy, can you help me out with my prob? I just reinstalled (fresh install) Ubuntu 6.06 and it won't boot
[07:26] <LordFloppy> Im getting outside my limited understanding of ubuntu seeds
[07:26] <LordFloppy> sorry
[07:27] <bp847> seeds: you're trying to change the time, correct?
[07:27] <Nushio> for some reason It doesnt find the hdd or a way to boot from hdd, I think that its because it didnt install lilo or grub
[07:27] <LordFloppy> i had issues when i installed LIlo on another machine
[07:27] <dilch> Nushio yeah, that small problem of no bootloader
[07:27] <LordFloppy> if you can try to set it up to use Grub
[07:27] <seeds> bp847: yes im trying to change it
[07:28] <Nushio> I can't boot into ubuntu, except with ubuntu live
[07:28] <dilch> Nushio so install grub. If that's too hard, google something called GAG
[07:28] <bp847> seeds: you've tried right clicking on the time in the upper right of the screen, going to adjust time/date, and working from there?
[07:28] <Nushio> ooh, Gag looks nice, thanks dilch!
[07:29] <Nushio> Ugh, I just realized that I dont have a floppy disk reader
[07:29] <mssever> cj_: you still there?
[07:29] <LordFloppy> nushio, what do you need a floppy reader for
[07:30] <LordFloppy> ?\
[07:30] <Nushio> for GAG?
[07:30] <cj_> mssever: ye
[07:30] <cj_> mssever: yes
[07:30] <LordFloppy> you dont have a thumb key?
[07:30] <Nushio> yepp, I do
[07:30] <seeds> bp847: yes i did that, but i get a message that i can't because im not allowed to use the system configuration
[07:30] <dilch> Nushio oh, that sucks
[07:30] <mssever> cj_: what's your status? have you purged and re-installed everything related to apache2?
[07:30] <dilch> Nushio well just install grub if you can
[07:31] <bp847> seeds: did it prompt for the root password?
[07:31] <Nushio> Ill try to figure things out
[07:31] <LordFloppy> luck man
[07:31] <LordFloppy> but do try the ubuntu forums
[07:31] <cj_> i'm still working on it... mssever
[07:31] <seeds> no it didn't
[07:31] <LordFloppy> or try google.com/linux
[07:31] <mssever> cj_: ok...just wondering
[07:31] <seeds> bp847: it didn't
[07:31] <Nushio> yeah, I already do check those
[07:31] <cj_> thanks mssever
[07:31] <posingaspopular> seeds: do you have a password set?
[07:32] <seeds> posingaspopular: yes i have a password
[07:32] <dilch> Nushio you can install grub from the install disk
[07:32] <jeff_> anyone know which file provides the specific command that starts postgres on boot up?
[07:32] <posingaspopular> oh okay, just checking
[07:32] <mssever> jeff_ look in /etc/init.d
[07:32] <Nushio> thanks, i'll try!
[07:32] <cj_> mssever: the synaptic are now installing the apache2
[07:33] <smoenux> !java
[07:33] <jeff_> ty mssever i try there
[07:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:33] <mssever> cj_: ok
[07:33] <dynamicreflux> any idea why the mouse scroller (vertical) on my touchpad doesnt work?
[07:33] <cj_> mssever: i will give an update after installation
[07:33] <sparr> how would i get "FAT: Directory bread..." errors in dmesg when im not using any FAT-ish filesystems?
[07:33] <mssever> cj_ k
[07:34] <bp847> seeds: try opening up a terminal and typing "sudo time-admin"
[07:35] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know where the crop tool is in Gimp? my help files aren't installed and it would be faster if I just ask someone here.. thanks
[07:35] <mssever> captainMorgen: shift+C
[07:36] <seeds> bp847: great it worked!
[07:36] <seeds> bp847: what can i do to do things like that wothout a password
[07:36] <seeds> ?
[07:37] <CaptainMorgan> thanks mssever
[07:37] <bp847> seeds: perfect! doing things like that without a password...you won't be able to, since it's making a change to system settings
[07:37] <LordFloppy> linux will always ask for a password
[07:37] <LordFloppy> its safer that way
[07:38] <LordFloppy> makes sure you understand you may mess up your system and to make sure you know what youre about to do
[07:38] <Ferret> huh?
[07:38] <BrianR> Hi
[07:38] <Ferret> You can make sudo not ask for a password
[07:38] <BrianR> can someone help me out with a question?
[07:38] <mssever> shoot
[07:39] <posingaspopular> BrianR: dont ask to ask, just ask ;)
[07:39] <BrianR> I just ordered my ubuntu cd today
[07:39] <BrianR> and I shoutcast to a shoutcast server can you do that in ubuntu?
[07:39] <seeds> bp847: thank you very much
[07:39] <BrianR> if so how?
[07:39] <posingaspopular> let's see
[07:39] <posingaspopular> !shoutcast
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shoutcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <bp847> seeds: you're welcome!
[07:39] <seeds> ferret: how do i set ubuntu not to ask for the password
[07:40] <BrianR> ok I got booted
[07:40] <BrianR> can someone tell me if you can shoutcast with ubuntu?
[07:40] <bp847> and on the topic of messing up my system...is there any way to resize an ntfs partition from the live cd without losing data?
[07:40] <mssever> BrianR: dunno about shoutcast. You might try ubuntuforums.org--or google
[07:41] <BrianR> hmm okay
[07:41] <BrianR> thank you
[07:41] <posingaspopular> gogoel.com/linux
[07:41] <posingaspopular> google.com/linux
[07:42] <CygnusRising> Hey, what is the standard bundled software with Ubuntu? From what I see so far, it's OO.Org, Firefox, RythymBox, and The GIMP.  Am I missing any?
[07:42] <LordFloppy> evolution
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: the list is very long
[07:43] <Ferret> Dah, he left
[07:43] <CygnusRising> Heh.  Thanks.  Is there a URL with a full listing somewhere?
[07:43] <posingaspopular> akregator
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: totem, tomboy...
[07:43] <mssever> cygnusrising: dunno
[07:44] <Ferret> bp847: Yes, use gparted.  If it's not on your ubuntu disk, it's got its own livecd that's about 30M download
[07:44] <n2diy> Anybody setup a satellite tv decoder on a Ubuntu box? My neighbor moved out of the building, and gave me his dishes, so they are all set to go.
[07:44] <crash_> Helloo... how would I set my domain name on my computer for a home network? :-P
[07:45] <CygnusRising> mssever:  Those mean nothing to me.  I'm just kinda looking into Ubuntu after a reccomendation as a good place to start with Linux-based OS's.  I've always kinda liked the support and universality that Windows has offered, but I really should start branching out.
[07:45] <bp847> ferret: perfect, thanks for the info
[07:45] <LordFloppy> n2diy, you may try mythtv package
[07:45] <Ferret> bp847: It's pretty easy to use, and it lets you set up all the actions you want to do before starting.  Of course you need to be careful with such programs and should consider backing stuff up but it's very popular, never hear of problems with it
[07:45] <mssever> cygnusrising: it's quite a complete system out of the box...the best way to see is to try out the live cd
[07:46] <cj_> mssever: same error
[07:46] <cj_> hehehe
[07:46] <LordFloppy> ive never heard of anyone using a satellite box with linux, but it may be possible
[07:46] <LordFloppy> thats something you may have to dig for
[07:46] <mssever> cj_: really? then I'm stumped...If I knew how, I'd send you mine
[07:46] <orient2000> cygnusrising: run adept, install kubuntu
[07:47] <CygnusRising> mssever:  Thanks.  I look into grabbing the ISO when my computer is on for the evening and I'm not using it.  Gotta get that new HDD first so I can repartition my current one without losing any data though.  Unless I kept in mind that I wanted to dual-boot at some point and left a 10 GB raw partiton.
[07:47] <n2diy> LordFloppy: roger that, thanks.
[07:47] <CygnusRising> orient2000:  Adept?  Why Kubuntu over Ubuntu?
[07:48] <bp847> ferret: good to hear that it's easy to use...I'm actually asking for a friend who's never worked with linux before, so I was a bit worried that he was going to manage to do something wrong while partitioning >.<
[07:48] <orient2000> Kubuntu is more like windows menu like. menu is left-bottom
[07:48] <dilch> nothing can go wrong with ubuntu
[07:48] <dilch> ever
[07:48] <cj_> ok thank you verry much msserver
[07:48] <orient2000> kubuntu is KDE and more popular
[07:48] <variant> orient2000: actualy, ubuntu is more popular (gnome)
[07:49] <dilch> cool, i finally got Vista running under wine
[07:49] <Ferret> bp847: You drag little coloured rectangles that represent the partitions around the screen.  It's fun. ;P
[07:49] <LordFloppy> i think its a bit prettier at setup as well
[07:49] <mikejanssen> i prefer gnome more than kde
[07:49] <mikejanssen> kde = blegh
[07:49] <dilch> no one prefers kde or gnome
[07:49] <dilch> xubuntu
[07:49] <dilch> or death
[07:49] <Keitaru> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64   this would work on my AMD Athlon 64 rig right?
[07:49] <mikejanssen> psh
[07:49] <variant> Keitaru: yes
[07:50] <noodles12> i usually run gnome but i'm in kde to try things out. Everything seems.. blurry. Is there something i have to change in the settings?
[07:50] <Keitaru> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386  and this would work an an Intel rig right?
[07:50] <variant> Keitaru: yes
[07:50] <CygnusRising> >.<  Ladies, you're both pretty. I've seen the KDE Gnome war for long enough.  Why can't we settle on something we a like...  How about...   PCB's.  We can all like Printed Circuit Boards....
[07:50] <noodles12> i fixed the blurry font by changing the anti-aliasing to slight.
[07:50] <dilch> and only xubuntu because ubuntu refuses to have a default fluxbox installation
[07:50] <CygnusRising> >.<
[07:50] <mikejanssen> Keitaru,  i am using that on an amd
[07:50] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:50] <Keitaru> using what mike
[07:50] <mikejanssen> the i386
[07:50] <orient2000> cygnusrising: go to konsole and type apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and restart with KDE.
[07:50] <Keitaru> lol how is it stable??
[07:50] <bp847> ferret: nice, he should be able to deal with that easily enough =P
[07:50] <mikejanssen> works fine for me
[07:50] <Ferret> bp847: Don't be surprised if it takes a couple of hours to run (although that depends on what you're doing -- moving partitions (or at least the start of them) takes ages, and gparted is especially slow because it does a full trial run of everything before actually doing it. ;p
[07:51] <ardchoille> dilch: "default"? Pffft.. as long as your apt is working, you have everything ;)
[07:51] <CygnusRising> Vista just kinda lost it in my mind.  I mean, all I see it as right now is a prettied up version of windows that tries to be a bit more practical with system resources.
[07:51] <CygnusRising> Rather, a prettied up version of XP.
[07:51] <LordFloppy> its slow even on new hardware
[07:51] <dilch> ardchoille if only. You need to undertake a number of steps to completely remove k/u/x unbuntu, then install the desired wm
[07:52] <Keitaru> anyone know a Freeware Iso burner?
[07:52] <LordFloppy> that new system permissions thing already has an exploit
[07:52] <cj_> anyone can help me about my apache2
[07:52] <CygnusRising> Yeah.  Didn't THG say something about it not playing well with a lot of hardware, especially nVidia cards and Samsung MP3 players.
[07:52] <BlackMage-Redwiz> The one that comes with ubuntu
[07:52] <dilch> Keitaru google a 'front-end cdrecord'
[07:52] <Keitaru> ty
[07:52] <LordFloppy> vista was not ready for release
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> vista blows
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> i hate it
[07:52] <CygnusRising> Agrees with LordFloppy.
[07:52] <dynamicreflux> and im an avid m$ user
[07:52] <dilch> this is not #vista
[07:52] <mikejanssen> i like vista
[07:52] <mikejanssen> = X
[07:52] <dilch> any talk of it disgusts me
[07:52] <bp847> ferret: I'm assuming that it's just a resize, since he's going from using the entire drive for xp to a dual boot (hopefully, we'll see what he actually manages by the end of tomorrow)
[07:53] <ardchoille> Microsoft should change their name to Playschool.. their target audience is the same..
[07:53] <BlackMage-Redwiz> right click on the iso and use the default it works fairly well for iso burning
[07:53] <CygnusRising> I would say...  If you want your preformance, run Windows 2000 on a system that's way to powerful for it.
[07:53] <BlackMage-Redwiz> not 2000 but 98
[07:53] <dilch> ardchoille yeah, 'cause ubuntu is the 'adult's' choice in *nix ...
[07:53] <LordFloppy> 98 is a pos OS
[07:53] <dilch> enough MS talk
[07:53] <mikejanssen> 98se
[07:53] <mikejanssen> ftw!
[07:53] <CygnusRising> (Of course, that is assuming that you want a Windows system)
[07:54] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch im sorry thats right .... I only ever used se...
[07:54] <dilch> everyone know MS peaked with ME
[07:54] <CygnusRising> 98SE and 2k are all pretty close, but I would say that if you had the option, and you wanted similar OS speed, go with a *nix based OS.
[07:54] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dual boot FTW just incase your friends dont use linux....
[07:54] <dilch> quad-boot or death
[07:55] <variant> dilch: stop trolling
[07:55] <bp847> ferret: but I'll mention that just in case...I'm actually worried that he'll end up following a walkthrough that's entirely outdated and manage to kill something in the process >.<
[07:55] <mikejanssen> i am using a tri-boot
[07:55] <dilch> variant that isn't trolling
[07:55] <mikejanssen> xp, vista, ubuntu
[07:55] <mikejanssen> = )
[07:55] <Kelbizzle> anyone know how to make xchaqt open link with firefox.
[07:55] <CygnusRising> BlackMage:  Yup, but 2000 will be more supported out of the group.
[07:55] <CygnusRising> Without taking the step to XP, of course.
[07:55] <dilch> xp/freebsd/debian/win2k3
[07:55] <dilch> or death
[07:55] <LordFloppy> mac os or linux
[07:56] <dilch> death
[07:56] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch...lol...which channel are you in...:P
[07:56] <valehru_> hey guys, how can i make sure that ipv6 is off?
[07:56] <Madpilot> dilch, you're starting to look a lot like a troll... cool it.
[07:56] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz some weird death one
[07:56] <dilch> Madpilot i'm just excited
[07:56] <CygnusRising> Yeah, I could see someone booting OSX, *nix, and boot camping XP on a Mac.
[07:56] <bp847> Kelbizzle: should be able to right click the link and select "open link in browser"
[07:56] <dilch> if excitement about linux is a crime, yes, i am guilty
[07:56] <bp847> ferret: anyway, thank you for the help!
[07:57] <Kelbizzle> it opens in a different browser. I found !mozilla-xremote-client -a firefox 'openURL(%s,new-tab)' in a google
[07:57] <variant> dilch: it's all the random comments i'm talking about
[07:57] <CygnusRising> Psh, I would in a heartbeat exchange my knowledge of Windows based systems for *nix based systems.
[07:57] <Ferret> bp847: The install doc should be displayed to you when you get to the desktop on the CD n.n
[07:57] <juraj> hy
[07:57] <Ferret> It shouldn't be out of date
[07:57] <dilch> variant my brain veers off on tangents. I will try to control myself
[07:57] <juraj> i need something like electronic workbench
[07:58] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I dont know... run *nix your self get your friends on it and sell your winblows knowledge for profit
[07:58] <bp847> ferret: I know, but he's searching for walkthroughs on google...I told him that he's overthinking it, but he's still worried -_-
[07:58] <CygnusRising> Question:  Does Opera release for *buntu?
[07:58] <dilch> of course
[07:58] <Madpilot> CygnusRising, yes
[07:58] <CygnusRising> Meaning, is it covered under the *nix releases.
[07:58] <juraj> does enybody knows the name of aplication
[07:58] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: I believe it's in the Seveas repo
[07:59] <Madpilot> CygnusRising, it's in the -commercial repos, so you can download it via Synaptic
[07:59] <CygnusRising> thought so.  Just making sure.  I wouldn't want to migrate without a little bit of home.
[07:59] <Ferret> CygnusRising: http://www.opera.com/download/ let's you choose ubuntu and select which version, so I assume yes
[07:59] <Ferret> Ah, neat, there's a repo for it.
[08:00] <dilch> migrate
[08:00] <dilch> some would call it installing another browser. But those ppl deserve death
[08:00] <CygnusRising> Well, it actually doesn't specifiy Ubutu expressly, but it does have a lot of open source OS support: Linux, FreeBSD, etc.
[08:01] <dilch> next you'll say you are deprecating firefox
[08:01] <Madpilot> dilch, seriously, cool it. last warning.
[08:01] <BlackMage-Redwiz> no offence but after using opera for almost a year I can firmly say that I much prefer firefox...
[08:01] <variant> dilch: man, this channel is busy enough without you filing it wil random comments
[08:01] <dilch> there haven't been any real questions for a long while
[08:01] <CygnusRising> Something about Firefox always bugged me.  Why I use Opera.  Too bad Opera doesn't quite have the support that Firefox has yet.
[08:01] <dilch> i've helped at least 6 ppl since i've been here
[08:01] <dilch> relax
[08:02] <Madpilot> BlackMage-Redwiz, after using Opera for longer than FF has existed, I can firmly say that I much prefer Opera ;)
[08:02] <Nushio> yeah, dilch helped me :P
[08:02] <Nushio> (im almost done)
[08:02] <darweth> Yikes.  I just thought I would try Democracy Player out of boredom, but Mozilla-Browser is a dependency.
[08:02] <darweth> I am not installing the Mozilla suite!
[08:02] <darweth> lol
[08:02] <Nushio> couldn't find grub or lilo inside the disk, so instead I went for a clean install from oem
[08:02] <dilch> darweth i truly hate that when that happens
[08:02] <variant> Madpilot: I tried opera a while back before fx came along.. thought it was very good except for the embedded add. then I realised that free software is better :P
[08:03] <rio> i wrote the command "chmod 640 <filename>", and it returned "Too many levels of symbolic links".  what does that mean/
[08:03] <rio> ?
[08:03] <dilch> opera used to have rendering/formatting problems
[08:03] <Madpilot> variant, the embedded ad is long gone - several versions ago now
[08:03] <sparr> it means that <filename> is a symlink to a symlink to a symlink...
[08:03] <CygnusRising> I mean, I like Mozilla, I give it to anybody who's a PEBKAC-in-waiting because it feels much closer to MSIE than anything else.
[08:03] <dilch> i have heard they fixed those. It's still by heresay the fastest browser
[08:03] <Nushio> isnt opera the only one that currently passes the acid2 test?
[08:03] <variant> Madpilot: yeah, still not free software though :)
[08:03] <darweth> Nushio: no
[08:03] <sparr> too many levels USUALLY indicates that the symlinks form a circle, so they never end
[08:03] <darweth> Safari, Konqueror pass it.
[08:03] <sparr> in theory you could have 100 levels of real symlinks and get that error, but its unlikely
[08:03] <Nushio> ah, i hadn't checked on those
[08:03] <variant> Nushio: also dillo
[08:04] <sparr> rio: ^^ ^^ ^^
[08:04] <rio> sparr so how do i fix that?
[08:04] <dilch> lol, i use dillo on a p75
[08:04] <dilch> it rocks
[08:04] <dilch> or death
[08:04] <sparr> rio: figure out where the file is supposed to be and link directly there.  if its a package, report the bug.
[08:04] <dilch> with 16mb of ram, as well
[08:04] <CygnusRising> I just like seeing my friend run Xubuntu on a machine he pulled from a dumpster.
[08:04] <variant> dilch: please get a grip on your self.. you don't want to cut your self off from the great resource that is #ubuntu
[08:05] <ardchoille> dilch: I realise you are excited, and I am too. But, your "or death" comments are getting annoying.
[08:05] <dilch> ok, i will stop
[08:05] <dilch> or death
[08:05] <CygnusRising> Literally pulled from a dumpster.  It was quite something to see it run so well.
[08:05] <variant> CygnusRising: yeah, dumpster box's can be suprisingly good machines
[08:05] <mikejanssen> cygnus..system prolly didnt handle xp well, so they tossed it
[08:05] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:05] <unop> rio,  it could be a situation where  link A points to link B which points back to link A (directly or indirectly)  in a circular fashion
[08:05] <dilch> CygnusRising i have a few machines here like that .. mostly p2s,but 2 p3s
[08:06] <dilch> i still don't know why they threw them out
[08:06] <variant> rio: type readlink /path/to/file
[08:06] <mikejanssen> prolly mad gf's threw away bf's computers
[08:06] <Ademan> are there any decent cross platform collaborative drawing (whiteboard) applications out there?
[08:06] <CygnusRising> Turned out it got trashed because the power switch soldering had popped.  It was hilarious.  5 minutes and he had fixed it:  The first 2 minutes was waiting for the soldering gun to heat up.
[08:06] <rio> sparr, unop i see... i think i know what i did wrong...
[08:06] <rio> brb
[08:07] <Madpilot> Ademan, Inkscape has some sort of whiteboard feature - Inkboard - try #inkscape for help with it
[08:07] <CygnusRising> Mike:  "You've played WoW more than you've seen me!"
[08:07] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:07] <dodgyville> Hi, my machine upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS> (I don't recall requesting the upgrade!) and now it can't connect to secure websites. Has anyone heard of this prob?
[08:07] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I have several 400mhz intels from the garbage but... alas I have no KVM switch so it really has no point
[08:07] <unop> rio,  variant suggested you find out where the link points to, it should give you an idea of the problem
[08:07] <Ademan> Madpilot: oh really? awesome i was just thinking if there wasn't one i might do something myself based off inkscape
[08:07] <CygnusRising> Mike: The sad part is that probably happens quite often.
[08:07] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: I take old machines that people throw out, donate or give away and I install Ubuntu and donate them to businesses or schools.
[08:07] <mikejanssen> no dodgyville
[08:07] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:07] <mikejanssen> prolly
[08:07] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz why not just ssh into them from a central machine?
[08:07] <Madpilot> Ademan, yea - I've never used inkboard, but I know it exists...
[08:08] <CygnusRising> ardhoille:  Ubuntu?  Why not the lighter-weight Xu?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> 'WHAT DOES WOW GIVE YOU THAT I CANT!!'
[08:08] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz and you can export the X
[08:08] <Ayabara> how can I dist-upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[08:08] <dynamicreflux> any idea why my touch pad scroller isnt working properly?
[08:08] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz anyway, that's what i do .. all the old machines on the network are X-less though
[08:08] <valehru_> hey guys, what clients look good as a frontend for mpd?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> cant wait for april...for new ubuntu to come out
[08:08] <CygnusRising> Mike:  The lack of complaint?
[08:08] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:08] <variant> Ayabara: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <Ayabara> variant, ok. thanks
[08:08] <ardchoille> CygnusRising: Wel, it depends.. if I happen to have a stick of ram or a newer CPU laying around that will run gnome, I'll do it. But, I have installed Xubuntu on quite a few.
[08:08] <variant> Ayabara: it is not advisable, you may loose all your data but it's up to you
[08:09] <BlackMage-Redwiz> dilch because that would require running about 100ft of cat5 cable...
[08:09] <Ayabara> variant, I'm doing it on a fresh vm :-)
[08:09] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz yeah, i guess that's what i did in association with wireless ...
[08:09] <CygnusRising> sighs.  I need to get that second HDD so I can actually back all my shtuff up and reformat my 80 GB boot disk.
[08:09] <dilch> maybe 75 feet
[08:09] <mikejanssen> yea, i need another hd
[08:10] <mikejanssen> for storage
[08:10] <mikejanssen> 200gig hd...doesnt work too well with a tri-boot
[08:10] <mikejanssen> hard to decide how big to make each partition, and be able to save things
[08:10] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well I have wireless to my lappy and my desktop is non existant right now and my family computers are all upstairs...though my gf just got a sweet Desktop I must say
[08:10] <mikejanssen> i need a laptop
[08:10] <mikejanssen> = \
[08:10] <variant> mikejanssen: create one large ext3 partition for /home and you can use that from under windows as well
[08:10] <mikejanssen> i must get one
[08:11] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz do you have that puppy networked up?
[08:11] <CygnusRising> Then just split it even between XP and *nix, then have the entire second HDD be NTFS.  As long as *buntu can acess NTFS, which I'm assuming it can?
[08:11] <dilch> BlackMage-Redwiz the desktop, not the gf
[08:11] <sparr> BlackMage-Redwiz: wtf "lappy"?  strongbad much?
[08:11] <dilch> Don't format it as NTFS if you want to share
[08:11] <dilch> you'll have to use FAT for error-free read/write
[08:11] <variant> CygnusRising: it can, with fuse support there is now good quality read/write support
[08:11] <BlackMage-Redwiz> mike, I run a dual boot on a 60 right now... mind you I have to keep all my music in compressed formats...
[08:11] <variant> dilch: thats not strictly true any more
[08:11] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:12] <newest007> hey there, how do i stop gaim from loading and asking for login everytime i boot my pc up?
[08:12] <dilch> variant it still produces garbage on occassion
[08:12] <mikejanssen> im just weird
[08:12] <CygnusRising> Dilch: Ah.  I see.  I was going to say.  I know that FC5 can read/write off NTFS.
[08:12] <BlackMage-Redwiz> lappy is a horrible habit I picked up from a friend
[08:12] <mikejanssen> i have plenty of storage space
[08:12] <newest007> is there a option to choose which programs start at start up?
[08:12] <variant> dilch: never noticed. I suppose it depends it you use ntfs-ng or fuse
[08:12] <mikejanssen> but i always worry 'im runnin out!' when i have like 40gigs left
[08:12] <dilch> variant it's a feature we are constantly testing at work, because we need to use NTFS
[08:12] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:12] <BlackMage-Redwiz> which desktop...
[08:12] <dilch> ah i haven't tried the latest release of fuse
[08:12] <CygnusRising> Mike:  I start to worry when I have 40 MB left. >.<
[08:12] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:13] <Kelbizzle> can xchat connect to two servers at the same time?
[08:13] <variant> mikejanssen: yeah, if you don't have enough space to duplicate your entire storage system then you don't have enough space :)
[08:13] <variant> Kelbizzle: yes
[08:13] <mikejanssen> my xp partition = 85gig...vista = 65...ubuntu = 35 or something
[08:13] <variant> Kelbizzle: afaik, /newserver
[08:13] <newest007> how do i choose which programs run at start up?
[08:13] <Kelbizzle> variant, thank you
[08:13] <variant> newest007: there is a startup manager program thing in the administration section
[08:13] <CygnusRising> Mike:  Ya know, all that internets I teh downloadz.  Only one of the six.  Ya know, the first 5 being myspace and porn, the last one being actually useful things.
[08:13] <ardchoille> newest007: System -> Preferences -> Sessions ?
[08:13] <BlackMage-Redwiz> linux doesnt waste your space as much as windows does... my ext3 partition is smaller than my ntfs... and it has about twice as much free space.
[08:14] <mikejanssen> lol
[08:14] <dilch> newest007 or do the manly thing and go through /etc/init
[08:14] <dilch> or death
[08:14] <dilch> yes! or death!
[08:14] <variant> dilch: please stop that
[08:14] <variant> idiot
[08:14] <CygnusRising> If anything, he's presistant to the last.
[08:14] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I watch my pron in linux fewer problems that way
[08:14] <mikejanssen> i dl music and dvdr's
[08:14] <mikejanssen> w00t
[08:14] <mikejanssen> -pirate
[08:14] <newest007> thing is i use KDE, i thought gnome looked boring, but now everything is in different places for the GUI
[08:14] <mikejanssen> just got casino royale tonight
[08:14] <BlackMage-Redwiz> mike:EWW... vista:p
[08:15] <newest007> so i cant find the session thingy
[08:15] <CygnusRising> Yeah.    But where's all the pron gone?!
[08:15] <CygnusRising> Sighs.  Enough of that.
[08:15] <mikejanssen> i cant do the pr0n thing...got a fiancee on the same computer
[08:15] <mikejanssen> doesnt go over too well
[08:15] <ardchoille> newest007: For gnome?
[08:16] <newest007> i got the kubuntu desktop package and installed it on my ubuntu
[08:16] <rio> cool, i got it! thanks sparr, unop, variant!!
[08:16] <newest007> now its all flash KDE graphics
[08:16] <BlackMage-Redwiz> Gnome looks good if you find the right themes and set the menus to nonexpanded and hideable
[08:16] <BlackMage-Redwiz> *panels rather
[08:16] <unop> rio,  what was it?
[08:16] <newest007> nah, KDE looks waaay better than gnome
[08:16] <newest007> way way better
[08:16] <CygnusRising> I'm out.  Night/Morning/Whatever.
[08:16] <mikejanssen> i dont like the kubuntu boot screen
[08:16] <mackinac> blech
[08:16] <mikejanssen> i want my ubuntu boot screen back
[08:16] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:16] <mikejanssen> orange > blue
[08:17] <BlackMage-Redwiz> meh... I use my own boot screen... and and gnight cyrus
[08:17] <tehseen> I had beryl working, and it loads up but it doesnt work.
[08:17] <mikejanssen> i have diff sessions
[08:17] <mikejanssen> 1 for kde
[08:17] <mikejanssen> 1 for gnome
[08:17] <mikejanssen> i never use kde
[08:17] <mikejanssen> ugly to me
[08:17] <thekidrio> kde is pretty nice, usabilty wise
[08:18] <thekidrio> i prefer gnome myself
[08:18] <rio> unop setting up my own wiki... in doing so, i moved the wrong file because it looked like there were two with the same name <- used to windows
[08:18] <thekidrio> from my hacked solaris days
[08:18] <thekidrio> heyas rio
[08:18] <rio> <- used to windows
[08:18] <thekidrio> like your name
[08:18] <rio> haha
[08:18] <thekidrio> :)
[08:18] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well I use gnome with mostly KDE apps... sadly.
[08:18] <rio> yeah, nice nick, why you copin'??
[08:18] <rio> hahh
[08:18] <thekidrio> BlackMage-Redwiz: haha
[08:18] <unop> rio,  ahh, i see
[08:18] <newest007> oh no, i now have NO idea where the session thing is....
[08:18] <thekidrio> hehe
[08:18] <newest007> omg
[08:18] <mikejanssen> kde has great games included
[08:18] <mikejanssen> = )
[08:18] <tehseen> ohk so nvm
[08:18] <mikejanssen> i <3 the kballbounce game
[08:18] <mikejanssen> addicting
[08:18] <thekidrio> i have been thekidrio since 1994 :P
[08:19] <thekidrio> haha mikejanssen
[08:19] <variant> mikejanssen: kbounce rocks
[08:19] <mikejanssen> ya it does
[08:19] <mikejanssen> i love that game!
[08:19] <ardchoille> mikejanssen: crack-attack is also addictive ;)
[08:19] <thekidrio> i just set up an iax asterix box!
[08:19] <mikejanssen> ive only gotten to level 111
[08:19] <mikejanssen> 11*
[08:19] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:19] <thekidrio> made a call to hawaii
[08:19] <mikejanssen> its hard after that
[08:19] <newest007> where is the session place config thing for KDE??
[08:19] <thekidrio> umm session place config... do you mean to add a session for kde?
[08:19] <thekidrio> did you install kde?
[08:19] <newest007> no
[08:19] <rio> oh hrmm... ive been rio on irc since last year, but rio as a nickname outside of irc since 96 =P
[08:20] <newest007> i want to stop some programs from starting when i turn my pc on
[08:20] <newest007> like gaim etc
[08:20] <thekidrio> ahhh
[08:20] <thekidrio> sorry newest007
[08:20] <variant> newest007: remove it from the session
[08:20] <thekidrio> i got my nickname from a marlon brando movie
[08:20] <newest007> how do i do that??
[08:20] <thekidrio> its a great film if you like westerns
[08:20] <variant> newest007: menu > preferences > session
[08:20] <variant> iirc
[08:20] <unop> rio,  there's probably been 1024 other rio's who have said just that :p
[08:20] <ardchoille> newest007: Open a terminal and run: gnome-session-properties then go to the Startup Programs tab, I think they are in there
[08:20] <orient2000> you change sesion before you type passwort after boot
[08:20] <mikejanssen> my efnet nick = slap_me
[08:21] <mikejanssen> back from my aol days
[08:21] <mikejanssen> heh
[08:21] <rio> ahhh....
[08:21] <thekidrio> called "One Eyed Jacks"
[08:21] <thekidrio> great great film
[08:21] <thekidrio> efnet, i was kidrio
[08:21] <thekidrio> or lobo
[08:21] <mikejanssen> i had one of those indent screen names with the spaces in front of the letters, sn was '   slap me'
[08:21] <mikejanssen> i was l33t
[08:21] <rio> lobo... sounds familiar
[08:21] <thekidrio> alternet, lobo or thekidrio
[08:21] <thekidrio> lobo is pretty popular
[08:21] <yopad> are there any good books
[08:21] <thekidrio> means wolf and its a comic book character
[08:21] <thekidrio> on what yopad?
[08:22] <rio> i used to frequent EFnet quite often, back in teh day
[08:22] <thekidrio> ubuntu hacks is a great book
[08:22] <rio> ....as JAyRULE
[08:22] <thekidrio> cool stuff
[08:22] <Madpilot> thekidrio, mikejanssen - IRC nick chat to PM or elsewhere, thanks...
[08:22] <newest007> uh oh
[08:22] <newest007> i think something bad has happend to my pc
[08:22] <Madpilot> yopad, the Official Ubuntu Book is good
[08:22] <newest007> gnome-session-properties
[08:22] <newest007> ** (gnome-session-properties:5705): CRITICAL **: gsm_protocol_new: assertion `GSM_IS_GNOME_CLIENT (gnome_client)' failed
[08:22] <Killerkiwi> vpnc help, i can connect and get web traffic but other things (including ping) are blocked
[08:22] <newest007> ** (gnome-session-properties:5705): WARNING **: Could not connect to gnome-session.
[08:22] <BlackMage-Redwiz> whats wrong newest
[08:22] <newest007> ^^^ that
[08:22] <thekidrio> Madpilot: was that a warning?
[08:22] <newest007> im using KDE
[08:22] <newest007> not gnome
[08:23] <thekidrio> i was waiting and trying to answer questions eh
[08:23] <Madpilot> thekidrio, just a request
[08:23] <newest007> i cant find session
[08:23] <newest007> sessions
[08:23] <variant> lol, aacs has been cracked wide open already, bring on the gnu hd/blueray dvd movies!
[08:23] <thekidrio> okie dokie Madpilot, cool name btw
[08:24] <yopad> on ubuntu...i want to be an advance user
[08:24] <yopad> im just using it casually...but i think theres more stuff i need to learn
[08:24] <thekidrio> anyone know the package for roaming network profiles?
[08:24] <thekidrio> network-manager?
[08:25] <variant> yopad: if you want to be an "advanced" user it depends on what level you want to reach.. will take you a while. take alook at command line (bash) tutorials and stuff
[08:25] <yopad> if my internet keeps disconnecting to connect to my neighbors...what can i do?
[08:25] <yopad> variant...thanks for the info on bash tutorials
[08:25] <variant> yopad: without breaking the law, not much
[08:25] <BlackMage-Redwiz> I use NetworkManager
[08:26] <yopad> how about changing the channel or something
[08:26] <yopad> you think that will work
[08:26] <twothree> no more ubuntu ppc :(
[08:26] <variant> yopad: connecting to wifi that you are not authorised to is illegal in most countries that I know of. This isn't the place to ask anyway
[08:26] <Sensae> Hello. in xorg.conf my max resolution is 1024 x 768 but the welcome screen is loading at 1600 x 1200
[08:26] <yopad> they just moved in..and my connection was perfect...now it disconnects and try to connect to theirs...lame man...
[08:26] <yopad> variant
[08:27] <yopad> i have my own connection
[08:27] <Keitaru> anyone know why my dvd drive won't open when I press eject
[08:27] <Spo8> Hi, I had a quick installation question.  I'm running off the LinuxMint live cd right now and I'm trying to install, but I'm stuck when picking the partitions to install on.  I made two (one 18g, the other 1g) for the main and swap partitions, but it keeps saying there's no root even when I assign the big one as "/" and the smaller one as "swap."  Am I just being a huge noob?
[08:27] <Sensae> As a note I have the free ATI drivers installed and Beryl running
[08:27] <yopad> their connection is interfering with mine
[08:27] <variant> Spo8: linuxmint is not ubuntu, please ask in linuxmint forums or irc channels.
[08:27] <yopad> im using wireless..trying to connect to my router..but ubuntu connects to theirs
[08:27] <twothree> yopad, you can switch the wireless channel in your router settings
[08:27] <yopad> then i have to disconnect
[08:27] <twothree> it might lessen interference
[08:27] <variant> Tom_Kun: ah lol
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> good luck Yopay
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> yopad*
[08:28] <variant> BlackMage-Redwiz: type yo and press the tab key :)
[08:28] <yopad> whats up blackmage
[08:28] <Spo8> but it's basically ubuntu, just with some basic stuff installed for you, correct?  i assume the installation is exactly the same.
[08:28] <mikejanssen> beddddddd time
[08:28] <posingaspopular> Spo8: i know the problem though
[08:28] <variant> Spo8: no, it's not ubuntu. it's a fork and it's not appropriate to ask for help about it in here
[08:28] <BlackMage-Redwiz> yopad you said you had to disconect so I wished you luck...
[08:29] <yopad> i already did haha
[08:29] <yopad> im on mine right now
[08:29] <posingaspopular> PM me
[08:29] <thekidrio> !wireless | thekidrio
[08:29] <Sensae> My Ubuntu max resolution is higher than xorg.conf, anyone know why this could be?
[08:30] <Keitaru> whats yoru resolution for unbutnu
[08:30] <Keitaru> ubuntu
[08:30] <Sensae> It's set at 1024 by 768 but max is 1600 by 1200
[08:30] <Sensae> My monitor won't support that and the ubuntu welcome screen likes to load at 1600 by 1200
[08:30] <Keitaru> how come my ubuntu only has
[08:30] <Keitaru> 640x480 resolution
[08:31] <ardchoille> !fixres | Keitaru
[08:31] <ubotu> Keitaru: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:31] <Keitaru> sweet
[08:31] <Keitaru> thanks
[08:32] <lovloss> Im very tired and i hate ffmpeg / mencoder. Is ther any quick, gui based way anyone knows of to turn a bunch of mp4 files into mp3 files so i can burn this playlist :P
[08:32] <lovloss> actually, they're ".m4a"
[08:33] <thekidrio> m4a.. i had that codec isnt that umm ipod compat?
[08:33] <yopad> whats the best place for wallpapers
[08:33] <posingaspopular> yes
[08:33] <lovloss> yes. but i dont want it on an ipod
[08:33] <lovloss> i want it on a cd :P
[08:33] <thekidrio> i might search google for m4a mp3 convert or m4a converter
[08:33] <posingaspopular> kdelook
[08:33] <jeff_> anyone know a good tape backup that's reliable with 4mm dat drives?
[08:33] <ardchoille> yopad: /usr/share/backgrounds is the default
[08:33] <posingaspopular> if you use kdde
[08:33] <thekidrio> cd is umm redbook audio i think
[08:33] <lovloss> kdelook?
[08:34] <posingaspopular> kde-look.org
[08:34] <lovloss> never mind. i was hoping maybe there was something i could apt-get or something... ill look tomorrow
[08:34] <posingaspopular> themes, wallpapers, splash agers etc
[08:36] <doojin> ubuntu
[08:36] <doojin> I don't believe the stability of linux gui
[08:36] <thekidrio> hrmm?
[08:36] <thekidrio> what about it don't you believe?
[08:36] <doojin> I used to see linux gui stopping itself several times a week
[08:36] <doojin> I was running some programs
[08:37] <thekidrio> yeah it was not the best for uptime haha
[08:37] <doojin> And linux blew my datas
[08:37] <gusto5> Anyone know about gnome-look's downtime?
[08:37] <doojin> oops
[08:37] <doojin> *data
[08:37] <posingaspopular> gusto5: just noticed that myself
[08:37] <doojin> I forgot data is the plural form
[08:37] <LordMetroid> Is there any off topic channel? I want to dicuss an upcomming purchase of some hardware...
[08:37] <gusto5> aighttt
[08:37] <newest007> hey why does azureus have nat errors when i portforward??? im using exactly same settings as i did in windows for portforwarding, but in ubuntu it says nat error???
[08:37] <posingaspopular> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <doojin> I never saw windows xp stop its gui
[08:37] <Kris_T> i'm having serious issues with Ubuntu freezing on me all the time
[08:38] <doojin> Why does linux stop gui frequently?
[08:38] <gusto5> im looking for those osx icons by kiddo, but gnome-look is the downage : )
[08:38] <doojin> I gave up linux
[08:38] <doojin> I removed it from my harddisk
[08:38] <gusto5> really?
[08:38] <ardchoille> doojin: What are you talking about? I have had a box here running Ubuntu for over a month and nothing's wrong with it.
[08:38] <posingaspopular> help installing a dekstop background?
[08:38] <variant> doojin: do you have a problem you would like help with? or are you just here to troll?
[08:38] <doojin> ardchoille : maybe you are not running gui
[08:38] <Kris_T> usually it's when i play mp3's with Amarok or XMMS, then the whole thing will freeze up and a loud beep will come out of the speakers until i reboot
[08:39] <doojin> linux gui is very unstable
[08:39] <gusto5> it is?!
[08:39] <ardchoille> doojin: Please take that nonsense to another channel.
[08:39] <doojin> I installed ubuntu, and ubuntu's xwindows server stopped very often
[08:39] <Kris_T> but sometimes it just freezes, even when i'm not playing music, for no apparent reason
[08:39] <doojin> maybe 1~2 times a week
[08:39] <doojin> I didn't know the problem
[08:39] <variant> doojin: comments like that are so obviously trolling that they are inefective.. if your going to troll at least do it right.. noob
[08:39] <orient2000> ubuntu freezing? maybe screen saver.
[08:39] <MikesDesk> Hi, Im running 6.06 and trying to install java jre 6, I tried to follow the guide on ubuntuguide but I cant install the fakeroot command. Which means I cant convert my java.bin to .deb. Any ideas?
[08:40] <doojin> I'm not insulting ubuntu, I just want to know the reason
[08:40] <yettenet> Good day! I need info about setting default programs for filetypes (I mean, for example, if I have 3 audio players, I'd like to know where to choose the default one)
[08:40] <unop> MikesDesk,  do you have sudo capabilities?
[08:40] <variant> doojin: please pastebin your xorg.conf and the log file from /var/log
[08:40] <doojin> variant : sorry I removed it a long time ago
[08:40] <MikesDesk> I tried using sudo and adding the multiverse and universe repos but it just cant find fakeroot.
[08:41] <variant> doojin: ah, can't really help you then can I?
[08:41] <ardchoille> yettenet: System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media ?
[08:41] <doojin> variant : do you know the usual reasons?
[08:41] <unop> MikesDesk,  usually you just execute the file.bin -- sudo sh -c "chmod +x ./file.bin; ./file.bin"
[08:41] <yettenet> ardchoille: I'll give it a look
[08:41] <doojin> The usual reasons linux gui stops
[08:41] <variant> doojin: as far as i'm aware there are no usual resons for what you describe, as it's very unusual
[08:41] <variant> doojin: perhaps you unplugged it?
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  why do you want fakeroot, do you want to install java or make a .deb?
[08:42] <doojin> no
[08:42] <doojin> Variant : It just stopped
[08:42] <MikesDesk> so I give the file execute rights
[08:42] <MikesDesk> Then just run it?
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  yep
[08:42] <variant> doojin: the proprietry nvidia driver has had some issues with locking up randomly but thats all i can think of
[08:42] <ardchoille> variant: Don't feed the trolls ;)
[08:42] <MikesDesk> okey thanks a million will try it now
[08:42] <unop> MikesDesk,  but this needs to be run as sudo as it makes changes to the system
[08:42] <doojin> variant : what was that?
[08:42] <MikesDesk> sure
[08:43] <variant> doojin: if you don't know what it is it's not something you should worry about
[08:43] <orient2000> some screen saver are freezin compoter so I have non for now
[08:43] <gveri1> Is there a GUI to set monitor/resolution configuration or do I have to vi Xorg.conf?
[08:43] <doojin> variant : do you think linux gui has more problems than windows gui does?
[08:43] <ardchoille> gveri1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is good
[08:44] <gveri1> ardchoille: Thanks, I will try that!
[08:44] <doojin> it was also difficult to set screen resolution in linux.
[08:44] <ardchoille> doojin: Please, this is an Ubuntu support channel. Thake your nonsense or OS comparisons to another channel.
[08:44] <doojin> ardchoille : maybe you are the only one who doesn't get it. my buddy, variant does
[08:45] <orient2000> My kubuntu 6.06 was always stable, no problems.
[08:45] <variant> lol
[08:45] <doojin> variant : do you use linux?
[08:46] <variant> ardchoille: he is on /ignore now anyway :)
[08:46] <gusto5> arguably we're here because we use linux
[08:46] <gusto5> >_>
[08:46] <doojin> variant : really?
[08:46] <ardchoille> variant: I just added him to mine too
[08:46] <doojin> These guys just don't wanna listen to problems
[08:46] <gusto5> so no one has osx iconset on hand?
[08:46] <doojin> You all want to see only good things of linux
[08:47] <gusto5> Just like we try to see good things of everything else?
[08:47] <thekidrio> who is on whose ignorelist?
[08:47] <variant> !icons
[08:47] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[08:47] <dxdt> so
[08:47] <orient2000> I don't
[08:47] <variant> hmm, thats not very helpfull
[08:47] <gusto5> lol
[08:47] <gusto5> not at all : P
[08:47] <doojin> And I don't definitely lie
[08:47] <thekidrio> whats the ? variant?
[08:47] <yettenet> ardchoille: It wasn't what I wanted
[08:47] <doojin> I am just here to solve problems
[08:47] <variant> thekidrio: what?
[08:47] <thekidrio> you said thats not helpful
[08:48] <thekidrio> thought might have a question
[08:48] <thekidrio> about fonts
[08:48] <crimsun> doojin: there's a bug reporting tool. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[08:48] <ardchoille> yettenet: What are you trying to do.. I'll try and help.
[08:48] <dxdt> yeah is beryl completely borked now?  I don't use it frequently, but I noticed that it broke with one of the updates and hasn't fixed with the most recent update.  I wish ATI was more compatible with AiGLX then I would just use Compiz + AiGLx
[08:48] <variant> thekidrio: no
[08:48] <thekidrio> ahh my mistake
[08:48] <doojin> I wonder why it goes not to problem solving but to arguing
[08:48] <Madpilot> dxdt, try #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[08:48] <variant> dxdt: i use beryl at the momment, latest version and it works perfectly with radeon 7000igp and the free drivers
[08:48] <ardchoille> yettenet: Are you trying to set which app a certain file type opens in?
[08:49] <yettenet> Exactly
[08:49] <yettenet> :)
[08:49] <dxdt> Madpilot, well, I wasn't really looking for a solution as much as a quick confirmation, but OK.
[08:49] <variant> Madpilot: ubuntu-xgl has been replaced by some other chan.. ubuntu-effects iirc
[08:49] <ardchoille> yettenet: Right-click the file, choose Properties. Go to the Open With tab and set it up.
[08:49] <dxdt> yeah I know, I've been in those rooms and such in the past.
[08:49] <yettenet> Oh
[08:49] <yettenet> I see
[08:49] <yettenet> Thank you very much
[08:49] <ardchoille> yw
[08:49] <Madpilot> variant, good to know - I don't use XGL/beryl etc myself..
[08:50] <gusto5> I like beryl!
[08:50] <variant> Madpilot: I set it up for my girl friend :) she loves it
[08:50] <orient2000> !beryl
[08:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <gusto5> lol what the heckkk
[08:50] <gusto5> why does my backspace key
[08:50] <doojin> Damn it, I'm trying to solve problems my way seriously, those guys think I'm just a complainer.
[08:50] <gusto5> function like a page-up key?
[08:51] <gusto5> oooo, question
[08:51] <unop> gusto5,  is it a non-standard keyboard?
[08:51] <gusto5> is there a synaptics touchpad manager in ubuntu?
[08:51] <gusto5> nah, its a standard US english
[08:51] <frogzoo> gusto5: yep
[08:51] <dynamicreflux> how do u get the scroller to work on the touchpad
[08:51] <frogzoo> gusto5: syndaemon
[08:51] <dynamicreflux> mine doesnt work
[08:52] <doojin> I hate this situation
[08:52] <gusto5> oh yeah, the page-up behaviour is only in firefox though
[08:52] <gusto5> on OOo it'll actually delete.
[08:53] <orient2000> is beryl working in kubuntu 6.06?
[08:53] <gusto5> orient2000, I thin it works, but it isnt supported
[08:53] <dynamicreflux> when is the next beryl release expected?
[08:54] <gusto5> check out the beryl-project page
[08:55] <gusto5> frogzoo, is that not a package in the regular repos?
[08:55] <frogzoo> gusto5: what are you trying to do?
[08:55] <ptl> I reinstalled almost everything and the font problem with squares instead of characters continue :(
[08:55] <gusto5> synaptics touchpad in ubuntu
[08:56] <ptl> PLEASE help me... What could I do to gnome apps restart working?
[08:56] <orient2000> Beryl screen shots http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3323
[08:58] <frogzoo> gusto5: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:58] <MurderousHobo> How would I install a VNC server over command line
[08:58] <gusto5> ahhhh aight
[08:58] <ptl> no fonts on xfontsel appear as squares
[08:58] <ptl> ALL fonts on gnome font selector appears as squares
[08:58] <ctford> is there a way to bring up the system monitor if ubuntu freezes?
[08:58] <MurderousHobo> !vnc
[08:58] <ptl> no fonts on KDE font selector appears as squares
[08:58] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[08:58] <ptl> how can I correct this?
[08:58] <cryosphere> Im not able to reboot
[09:00] <Enselic``> Is it 'I'm from the country of Sweden' or 'I'm from the country Sweden'?
[09:00] <orient2000> cryosphere: are you in a text mode?
[09:00] <crimsun> Enselic``: depending on the context, both are acceptable.
[09:01] <Enselic``> crimsun: If the context is "where are you from"?
[09:02] <ctford> enselic``: i would just say "i'm from sweden."
[09:02] <stylus> Hi there. What's the easiest method for installing Xchat on ubuntu?
[09:02] <crimsun> stylus: using Application>Add/Remove ..
[09:02] <stylus> Isn't that the gnome version though?
[09:03] <variant> stylus: apt-get isntall xchat
[09:03] <crimsun> no, you didn't specify whether you wanted Xchat or Xchat-gnome
[09:03] <crimsun> both are available, of course, from Applications>Add/Remove
[09:03] <Enselic``> ctford: I'd like to say "I'm from the wonderful Sweden"    doesnt it sound better with 'country' then?
[09:03] <stylus> Ok
[09:04] <stylus> Thanks.
[09:04] <jml> What's a good calendar app to use within gnome?
[09:04] <fek> moin
[09:05] <frogzoo> jml: evolution works
[09:05] <spike723> what program can I use to get serial console?  does ubuntu have tip or cu?
[09:05] <ctford> enselic``:  you wouldn't say "the wonderful sweden". you'd say "wonderful sweden." but i agree, "i'm from the wonderful country of sweden" is probably what you're after.
[09:05] <MikesDesk> unop, I have run the java1.6.0.bin and its has returned a directory and the readme inside the file from sun says nothing about installation.
[09:05] <frogzoo> jml: click on the clock in the toolbar
[09:06] <Sensae> Can someone help me setting max resolution in X / relink me to the X troubleshooting guide?
[09:06] <Enselic``> ctford: ty
[09:06] <unop> MikesDesk,  usually it asks you for confirmation on accepting license agreements and then goes on to installing it?? how did you start of the install?
[09:06] <cryosphere> orient: no I not
[09:07] <MikesDesk> I just ran the bin file once adding file permissions.
[09:07] <MikesDesk> It created a directory called java1.6.0
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  through the GUI ??
[09:07] <MikesDesk> Yes
[09:07] <ptl> I DID IT!
[09:07] <ptl> I have just upgraded pango
[09:07] <ptl> DANG
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  man, i gave you a command for a purpose
[09:07] <frogzoo> !fixres | Sensae
[09:07] <ubotu> Sensae: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <MikesDesk> let me try command again
[09:07] <unop> MikesDesk,  here - sudo sh -c "chmod +x ./file.bin; ./file.bin"
[09:08] <cryosphere> yeah, so I can get ubuntu to reboot
[09:08] <cryosphere> or rather xubuntu
[09:08] <cryosphere> it just takes to a black screen with a rat in the middle and sits there
[09:08] <cryosphere> *takes me
[09:08] <cryosphere> *cant
[09:09] <Sensae> That doesn't cover the radeon drivers :/
[09:10] <rylan> so, i have no sound, messed with all the default settings and still no sound, i think no drivers for my sound card, its a weird chinese brand.
[09:11] <ptl> !fixres
[09:11] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:11] <ptl> !test | ptl
[09:11] <ptl> !fixres | ptl
[09:11] <variant> rylan: what card is it?
[09:12] <variant> rylan: sudo -i then run update-pciids && lspci
[09:12] <rylan> plain english please
[09:12] <frogzoo> ptl: dude, you need to register with nickserv
[09:12] <spike723> ah ubuntu has "cu"
[09:12] <frogzoo> !fixres | ptl
[09:12] <ubotu> ptl: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <valehru> Anyone know where I can get some nice gmpc skins?
[09:13] <variant> rylan: presumably you understood "what card is it?"
[09:13] <ptl> frogzoo: ok!
[09:13] <ptl> 06:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You have already identified
[09:13] <cryosphere> !reboot | ptl
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <Sianis_> hi all
[09:14] <cryosphere> Im just trying to reboot, what could be preventing this?
[09:14] <rylan>  things are happening!
[09:14] <dxdt> You can't reboot you are saying?
[09:15] <Sianis_> i'm compiled mplayer , but gmplayed said : Cannot load bitmap font:
[09:15] <rylan> Variant: ok, now what.
[09:15] <Sianis_> how can I fix tihs?
[09:15] <cryosphere> dxdt: yes
[09:16] <variant> rylan: now answer the question
[09:17] <cryosphere> Im using xubuntu and when I tell it to reboot, it looks like it goes through almost all the step but in the end it cant move past the last screen (with the blue rat or whatever)
[09:17] <rylan> computer says, intel corp 82801G (ICH7 family ) high definition audio controler
[09:18] <dxdt> cryosphere, hmmm weird.  I would just press ctrl+alt+f1 if I were you.  Get to that console and then login and use the command sudo init 0
[09:18] <cryosphere> ok Il try that
[09:19] <rylan> any ideas variant?
[09:19] <cryosphere> I should probably also mention that when I boot into ubuntu I cant connect to the internet or use my usb devices
[09:20] <azalin> how do I use wine? I would like to run a windows program on ubuntu
[09:20] <cryosphere> and since its unpredictable as to when it does, I have no way to tracking down the problem
[09:20] <svu_> damn. dropping ppc support. this way i'll end up with gentoo :///
[09:20] <zwnj> dapper live cd doesn't detect the raid device of our intel xeon server, case: SR 2500, board: 5000 PAL.  should i load any module manually?
[09:20] <zwnj> [not only the live, also text-mode installer]
[09:21] <variant> svu_: who is dropping ppc support?
[09:22] <cursive> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external hd (usb2/esata)?
[09:22] <rylan> so, can someone help me figure out why my sound card isnt working. and possibly explain things a little to me?
[09:23] <variant> rylan: if you had answered my question in the first place instead of making remarks i would have hleped you by now
[09:23] <BlackMage-Redwiz> well ... what happend to the discusion...
[09:24] <svu_> variant, ubuntu
[09:24] <BlackMage-Redwiz> newest did you figure out your sessions
[09:24] <newest007> hey how on earth do i move a file into /etc/init.d ??? says im not allowed to?
[09:24] <newest007> whats the command in terminal to do this?>
[09:24] <newest007> yup, got the sessions sorted mate
[09:24] <BlackMage-Redwiz> makesure you use sudo
[09:24] <newest007> lol
[09:25] <newest007> see, im trying to portforward azureus
[09:25] <newest007> but i gotta move this iptable-azureus file into etc/init.d
[09:25] <rylan> i did. variant, maybe you didnt see it. it is coming up as an intel brand, 82801G (ICH7 FAMILY) high definition audio controler
[09:25] <Jowi> cursive, if it is detected at install time, why not. the only thing you will have to manage is the boot process - you will need to configure grub/bootloader on the primary disk.
[09:25] <variant> svu_: where did you hear that?
[09:25] <newest007> but i dont know how to do it command line
[09:26] <newest007> when i try to do it the GUI way, it wont let me
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, mmmmmm
[09:26] <Jowi> newest007, so you will have to learn to do it from the command line.
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, port forward?
[09:26] <rylan> Buuuut i know its an onboard sound card on a ASUS motherboard/
[09:26] <Jowi> !commands | newest007
[09:26] <ubotu> newest007: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:26] <dxdt> newest007, why?
[09:26] <HereBeDragon> >	Hi, How do I find out which package installed a file on my Ubuntu?
[09:26] <azalin> how do I use wine? I would like to run a windows program on ubuntu
[09:26] <newest007> whats the comand to move /home/joe/ip-tables   to :  /etc/init.d
[09:26] <newest007> so i can portforward azuerus
[09:27] <Lord_Shadow> sudo nautilus maybe?
[09:27] <newest007> take me to your leader
[09:27] <newest007> godamit
[09:27] <newest007> lol
[09:27] <Lord_Shadow> hehe ramy
[09:27] <Tomcat_> HereBeDragon: dpkg -S <file>
[09:27] <Jowi> HereBeDragon, dpkg -S filename
[09:28] <HereBeDragon> thanks folks :D
[09:28] <dxdt> newest007, you keep saying that, but I don't think it means what you think it means.  To put it another way, I installed azureus and only port forwarded my router.  Since Ubuntu, by default, had everything else open for me as I could see with sudo iptables -L
[09:28] <newest007> dont work for me
[09:28] <newest007> im following these intructions: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem look at the bit it says for ubuntu
[09:28] <cursive> Jowi: cheers
[09:28] <dxdt> newest007, I don't think adding iptable rules is going to change that though.  I think the problem lies elsewhere.  I personally have noticed that sometimes azureus will just choke and tell me I'm firewalled when it isn't and then I'll restart and it will be fine
[09:29] <rylan> .... im glad other people are getting help.
[09:29] <newest007> look at the link
[09:29] <dxdt> newest007, restart azureus that is.  I'm looking gimme a sec
[09:29] <newest007> cause, i can do it in windows np at all
[09:29] <MikesDesk> thanks unop, my eclipse trader - using java works
[09:29] <newest007> but i get nat errors in ubuntu
[09:29] <newest007> i know how to portforward my router np's, but its still nat error in ubuntu
[09:31] <BlackMage-Redwiz> newest if you don't know the command line maybe ' sudo nautilus' would work cuz it gives you a root browser
[09:31] <Jowi> newest007, "sudo nano /etc/init.d/iptables_azureus" will open a texteditor (called nano) to edit/create the file in question. C-x and y to exit and save. the other commands need to have "sudo" in front of them since you are modifying system files.
[09:31] <Jowi> BlackMage-Redwiz, sudo nautilus is a bad idea.
[09:31] <dxdt> newest007, do me a favor and type sudo iptables all and look at the default policy for each of the three things.  I'm just curious because I actually feel that the guide you are looking at is wrong....
[09:32] <Jowi> BlackMage-Redwiz, it can screw up the settings.
[09:32] <BlackMage-Redwiz> Jowi,  thanks for letting me know...
[09:32] <newest007> kk do it now
[09:33] <dxdt> newest007, I meant sudo iptables -L  sorry about that
[09:33] <cursive> is it possible to boot ubuntu from a external disk on multiple different pc's? is anything similar to windows hardware profiles so you can load different drivers at startup depending on the pc the external drive is connected to?
[09:33] <Jowi> newest007, learn the basic commands that ubotu gave you. you will need to learn one way or another. one great link to get to know your system is here: http://www.linux.sgi.com/LDP/LDP/linuxcookbook/html/cookbook.html#SEC_Top
[09:33] <newest007> iptables v1.3.5: no command specified
[09:33] <newest007> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[09:33] <dxdt> newest007, yeah I messed up I meant sudo iptables -L
[09:33] <dxdt> not all
[09:34] <voodooattack> hi all :)
[09:34] <Jowi> hello voodooattack
[09:34] <newest007> k i got a whole bunch of stuff come up
[09:34] <voodooattack> hey Jowi :)
[09:34] <newest007> too much to paste in here, or ill get booted
[09:34] <dxdt> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <newest007> joe@joe:~$ sudo iptables -L
[09:35] <newest007> Chain INPUT (policy DROP)
[09:35] <dxdt> newest007, use that site
[09:35] <newest007> target     prot opt source               destination
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:60003
[09:35] <Jowi> newest: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:60003
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     tcp  --  <IP_ADDRESS>        anywhere            tcp flags:!FIN,SYN,RST,ACK/SYN
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     udp  --  <IP_ADDRESS>        anywhere
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[09:35] <newest007> ACCEPT     icmp --  anywhere             anywhere            limit: avg 10/sec burst 5
[09:35] <frogzoo_> bad newest007 !!
[09:35] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:35] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <frogzoo_> !ops
[09:36] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/8  anywhere
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET/8
[09:36] <RichiH> newest007: plesae type /flushq
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  <IP_ADDRESS>      anywhere
[09:36] <newest007> DROP       all  --  anywhere             <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <voodooattack> aww man. i downloaded the ubuntu cd a while back.. and kept delaying the installation (my main development environment is windows) now my dvd burner is broken and i can no longer make use of it -_-
[09:36] <Jowi> voodooattack, luckily dvd/cd burners are quite cheap nowadays :)
[09:37] <voodooattack> yeah, now i need to buy another one (and it will take more time) :P
[09:37] <dxdt> so that's weird, looking at his policies it is clear that they are in fact defaulted to drop, but why?  Mine weren't.  When did that default in ubuntu or in other words, how come mine aren't?
[09:37] <dxdt> weird
[09:37] <jelen> hi folks
[09:37] <voodooattack> hi jelen :)
[09:37] <frogzoo_> dxdt: any decent firewall defaults to drop
[09:38] <newest007> did any of that help?
[09:38] <Jowi> dxdt, the default is to allow everything. he's obviously set the rules up himself
[09:38] <nalioth> !paste | newest007
[09:38] <ubotu> newest007: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <newest007> cause there was actuaaly more, soz about the flood
[09:38] <dxdt> Jowi, that's what I was thinkng
[09:38] <nalioth> newest007: please use a pastebin
[09:38] <newest007> will do, soz
[09:39] <newest007> but the azureus wiki rekons for ubuntu you gotta do some other stuff apart from portforward the router
[09:39] <dxdt> newest007, so yeah, ok, the weird thing is that my iptables on Ubuntu were setup by default to accept everything, yours aren't.  That's why you are having problems and that's why I was confused.
[09:39] <newest007> under the nat error part
[09:39] <dxdt> because by default, you don't have to follow their wiki and fix anything... did you install another firewall or mess with the rules some other time?
[09:39] <jelen> i have one question :]  ... i'm trying to start skype on the ubuntu edgy (2.6.17-10-generic x86_64) and dunno why - it just say that file doesn't exists (ls -la skype> -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 15232104 2006-09-29 14:08 skype) but when i try to execute - it say> -su: ./skype: No such file or directory ... anyone know whats this all about? :|
[09:39] <newest007> i did install a firewall
[09:39] <frogzoo_> newest007: like what? you nat, forward the bt ports, you're good to go
[09:39] <dxdt> newest007, ok
[09:39] <newest007> i did forward the router
[09:40] <newest007> i have before
[09:40] <newest007> and have np's
[09:40] <newest007> but ubuntu dont connect with it
[09:40] <newest007> i installed firestarter one time
[09:40] <frogzoo_> newest007: you did open the forwarded ports in firestarter?
[09:40] <dxdt> newest007, that makes sense then.  Haha Ok so basically whatever firewall you installed at that time changed the rules of your machine and that's why I didn't have to forward the ports but you do.
[09:40] <newest007> i dont use it now
[09:40] <newest007> and gaurdog
[09:40] <newest007> which i dont use now either
[09:41] <newest007> i dont use the firewalls anymore
[09:41] <frogzoo_> newest007: that looks awfully like a firestarter rule set
[09:41] <newest007> but i guess my settings are now chaned anyway?
[09:41] <jelen> use shorewall :) clear configs, nice loging if anything is wrong..
[09:41] <Jowi> newest007, so start firestarter again and remove the rules.
[09:41] <newest007> kk
[09:42] <frogzoo_> newest007: grep iptables-restore /etc/rc2.d/S*
[09:42] <dxdt> Yeah I think that wiki is wrong too on their site... listen to this "Computers running Ubuntu, by default, come with all the ports locked down and you need to open the ports in ubuntu by using the iptables command. Other flavours of linux behave similarly"
[09:42] <dxdt> that seems really wrong to me.
[09:43] <frogzoo_> dxdt: well it's not true - default behaviour is empty iptables rule set
[09:43] <newest007> k, i did grep iptables-restore /etc/rc2.d/S*
[09:43] <dxdt> frogzoo_, that's what I'm saying
[09:43] <newest007> and theres nothing to change in firestarter
[09:43] <dxdt> frogzoo_, I think their wiki is wrong
[09:43] <frogzoo_> dxdt: I think you're right
[09:43] <unop> jelen,  where is this skype file located?
[09:43] <dxdt> mhmmmm interesting'
[09:44] <newest007> oh man, still nat error
[09:45] <newest007> hmm sudo front kick to the sternum?
[09:45] <frogzoo_> newest007: of course, you need to find where the iptables rules are getting inserted
[09:45] <newest007> hmmm
[09:45] <seravitae> hey, i have universe, multiverse, main and resticted in my sources list. a friend is having mega problems with repositories, and he's seeing Sun Java 6 in his list. my list is working fine but i only see sun java 5. any ideas?
[09:45] <newest007> im way over my head here, lol
[09:46] <Davo_Dinkum> Is there an ubuntu channel for the PowerPC port?
[09:46] <jelen> unop: at my mounted home directory.. anyway - if i move it to /tmp it doesn't work anyway.. all permitions are ok (chmod a+rx), but it just doesn't work...
[09:46] <Davo_Dinkum> !powerpc
[09:47] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[09:47] <HereBeDragon> Hi, If anyone is running Apache2 on Ubuntu 6.06, could you please tell me what's the name of the Apache2 process?
[09:47] <jelen> root@ubuntu:/mnt/home/ienik/skype# ldd ./skype
[09:47] <jelen> /usr/bin/ldd: line 171: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory
[09:47] <jelen> ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127)
[09:47] <Davo_Dinkum> !powerpc-channel
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powerpc-channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <unop> jelen,  it looks like you are trying to use su on the file? is that so?
[09:48] <frogzoo_> newest007: dpkg -l firestarter
[09:48] <jelen> unop, i didn't use su or sudo on this file.. just execute it by non-root user using "./skype" and it does nothing
[09:49] <dxdt> newest007, if you aren't using those firewalls anyway, I would just do sudo apt-get remove firestarter.  Then restart then do sudo iptables -L and see if it is nice and clean again
[09:49] <newest007> uh oh
[09:49] <newest007> it didnt like that
[09:49] <newest007> uh, sweet, uninstalling now
[09:49] <jelen> dunno why, but on edgy it doesn't work... on my old Dapper - it works... i moved from Dapper to try edgy and now i have only troubles :/
[09:50] <unop> jelen,  hrmm, for some reason it's looking for ld-linux.so.2 in /lib when it should look in /usr/lib -- is this skype from the skype repositories? was it compiled for debian/ubuntu?
[09:50] <unop> jelen,  i'd suggest reinstalling skype then
[09:50] <newest007> sweet, just done  sudo iptables -L
[09:51] <newest007> ill try the nat test again
[09:51] <rus_net> Hi all, I'm looking for some help with an X / nvidia driver problem. I'm new to Linux / Ubuntu. I was trying to install Beryl and followed the instructions at ubuntuguide.org to install the Nvidia Beta drivers and when I restarted X wouldn't start. A friend helped me to install the drivers from nvidia.com and X started, but when I shut down and restarted X won't start again. My friend would be able to help but he's not available now. I
[09:51] <dxdt> newest007, paste bin what the new sudo iptables _L did to make sure it is nice and clean.
[09:52] <frogzoo_> !beryl | rus_net: | these are better instructions for setting up beryl
[09:52] <ubotu> rus_net: | these are better instructions for setting up beryl: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <unop> jelen,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[09:52] <jelen> unop, it's a static version (non-debian) but as I said - it works on Dapper (2.6.15 I guess) ..
[09:52] <stlxv> hi, all
[09:52] <dxdt> rus_net, I want to say that nvidia+X+Beryl is broken right now due to an update(it is test software after all)  and yeah like the bot said #ubuntu-effects will be more help
[09:52] <newest007> sorry whats the iptable command again?
[09:52] <jelen> unop, hmh.. ok, but i think, that it will not help :/...
[09:52] <dxdt> sudo iptables -L
[09:52] <newest007> for the list i mean
[09:52] <frogzoo_> newest007: sudo iptables -L
[09:52] <rus_net> Hi dxdt, I'm not so worried about Beryl, I just want to get back into X...
[09:53] <unop> jelen,  if skype will work on edgy here -- why wont it there :)
[09:53] <jelen> unop, ok.. downloading.. i will give you response in few minutes :)
[09:53] <stlxv> try downloading skype from skype's official site
[09:54] <dxdt> rus_net, is it possible to just undo the changes you made to start beryl and such each time by default?
[09:54] <stlxv> the skype from the source can't run well on edgy
[09:54] <dxdt> rus_net, and yeah, ubuntu-effects will probably be more help than I can possibly be in this area.
[09:54] <newest007> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5686/
[09:54] <newest007> just done it
[09:54] <rus_net> dxdt, maybe so, only I don't know how to do it.. I'm a recent convert :)
[09:54] <rus_net> ok, I'll try there, cheers
[09:55] <dxdt> newest007, ok, everything is open
[09:55] <newest007> just that, now my DHT is firewalled too?
[09:56] <newest007> and nat errors
[09:56] <newest007> weird?
[09:56] <newest007> acutally, ill restart azzy first
[09:57] <newest007> still nat errors :(
[09:58] <jelen> unop, thanks for help .. i'm going to reboot (just now I am runing installation cd and it doesn't allow me to edit /etc/apt/sources.list) so I have to try it on "real" system..
[09:58] <jelen> thnx, bye now
[09:58] <unop> ok :)
[09:58] <DragonLord> hi
[09:58] <Shaffox> hi
[09:58] <newest007> should i reinstall azureus?
[09:59] <frogzoo_> newest007: nope
[09:59] <frogzoo_> newest007: just check you have the port set in azzy, and the port forwarded from your router
[10:01] <newest007> still gettin nat error
[10:01] <humbolto> how can I make the feisty kernel available in edgy? get linux-source package and recompile? get the bin package and install??
[10:01] <unop> newest007,  i'm not used to azureus but in DC++ you need to set the mode in which it operates, active meaning it's on a public interface, passive meaning it is behind a router .. maybe there's such a setting in azureus too ?
[10:01] <humbolto> don't ask me why I want that, I have a perfectly good reason!
[10:02] <unop> humbolto,  the best way is to dist-upgrade to feisty
[10:02] <newest007> not sure myself unop, unfortunatly im not very good at this sort of thing
[10:02] <edawg26> Anyone have time for an ubuntu/default install gnome question?
[10:02] <humbolto> unop: but that's out of question until at least an rc release is out.
[10:03] <krinns> hi all
[10:03] <unop> humbolto,  you could force an install of the feisty kernel but it might bring in other feisty packages and then that might leave a lot of your edgy packages broken
[10:03] <humbolto> unop: so, what is the BEST way?
[10:04] <newest007> brb, tryin a reboot
[10:04] <darweth> dist-upgrade
[10:04] <unop> humbolto,  have you tried installing linux-image-2.6.19 ??
[10:04] <unop> humbolto,  manually i.e. ?
[10:05] <humbolto> unop: no. is this available in edgy?
[10:06] <unop> humbolto,  sorry, that'd be linux-image-2.6.20 .. and no this is not available for edgy .. it's for feisty
[10:06] <humbolto> unop: that's what I thought
[10:06] <unop> humbolto,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image-2.6.20&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all
[10:07] <humbolto> unop: I guess the best way would be to get linux-source-2.6.20 and recompile it with the debian or ubuntu magick in edgy?!
[10:07] <unop> humbolto,  or you could download and install the .deb from the repositories :)
[10:07] <unop> try i.e.
[10:09] <newest007> still got nat errors
[10:10] <unop> humbolto,  the latest might be this http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-image-2.6.20-8-386_2.6.20-8.14_i386.deb
[10:10] <unop> oops, thats a source package, hold on :)
[10:11] <unop> bahh no, its not a source package.. silly me, read too fast
[10:12] <newest007> any reason why i could still be getting nat errors?
[10:12] <humbolto> will give it a try
[10:12] <unop> newest007,  are you following a howto?
[10:13] <newest007> a how to?
[10:13] <rattlerviper> what is the best python editor for Ubuntu?
[10:13] <barata> hi, my java plugin for firefox sucks big time!
[10:13] <barata> anybody knows the jre name for apt-get-ing?
[10:13] <unop> humbolto,  i wash my hands of any responsibility for any problems arising due to the install of this eh .. its not supported on edgy and you must be aware of the implications of doing this :)
[10:14] <Enselic``> barata: apt-cache search jre
[10:14] <humbolto> unop: shouldn't it provide roughly the same kernel api?
[10:14] <cj_> acedentally deleted the apche folder in etc pls help thanks
[10:15] <frogzoo_> rattlerviper: emacs ?
[10:15] <unop> newest007,  a howto is a procedure to get something installed -- usually compiled by someone who has gotten the software installed successful :)
[10:15] <newest007> hangon a second
[10:15] <rattlerviper> frogzoo_, just checking to make sure there was nothing better thanks
[10:15] <unop> newest007,  but if you google for "azureus ubuntu", you'll see a lot of people having problems with it
[10:15] <newest007> would i have the same IP in ubuntu as i would in windows?
[10:15] <edawg26> rattleviper: do you like eclipse?
[10:15] <frogzoo_> newest007: if you're using dhcp, very likely
[10:16] <fiberchunks> netinstall of ubuntu from windows --- yummy :)
[10:16] <rattlerviper> edawg26, never tried it honestly
[10:16] <edawg26> Most people either like to use IDEs or they don't.
[10:16] <unop> humbolto, the kernel shouldnt be a problem .. its the package dependencies that might be a little tricky tho -- if you try and install this package manually and you dont get any complaints from dpkg, it ought to work quite well
[10:16] <edawg26> if you like IDEs then eclipse is decent, takes a little getting used to...
[10:16] <krinns> any one how i get zabbix-agent for ubuntu
[10:17] <edawg26> I used it a lot for java. I'm only recently learning Python so I haven't tried it yet
[10:17] <edawg26> but there IS an python editor for eclipse
[10:17] <krinns> when i do apt-get install zabbix-agent it says no package found
[10:17] <edawg26> package is called 'eclipse-pydev'
[10:17] <rattlerviper> edawg26, I'll install it and check it out right now
[10:17] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[10:17] <Enselic``> hi
[10:17] <unop> edawg26,  there's python support for for eclipse if thats what you mean
[10:17] <glenn> can't help ya
[10:18] <niner4ever> i have a question
[10:18] <rus_net> Hi all, I asked the following question here a few minutes ago, and was directed to #ubuntu-effects, but no one seems to be awake there. If anyone here can help I would greatly appreciate it...I'm looking for some help with an X / nvidia driver problem. I'm new to Linux / Ubuntu. I was trying to install Beryl and followed the instructions at ubuntuguide.org to install the Nvidia Beta drivers and when I restarted X wouldn't start. A frie
[10:18] <edawg26> unop: I'm not quite sure actually. Is there 'python support' INSIDE of eclipse?
[10:18] <fiberchunks> folks, what's a good size for / partition for ubuntu?  I usually use 5G -- but that's with SuSE
[10:19] <edawg26> fiberchunks: as always, depends on what you wanna do ^^.
[10:19] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: depends if you plan to have any of the following as separate partitions - /home /var /usr
[10:19] <unop> edawg26,  errm, the way it works is you install plugins on eclipse to get it to work with other languages
[10:19] <rattlerviper> edawg26, eclipse is not "light" is it?
[10:19] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, home is separate, but the rest are in /
[10:19] <niner4ever> im trying to test servers on my lan but they dont seem to like it because I dont have a domain name
[10:19] <fiberchunks> this machine is mostly for light development and things of that nature
[10:19] <unop> rattlerviper,  no, its quite heavy and "slow" since it's java based :)
[10:20] <edawg26> rattleviper: nope, it's heavy, hehe. Usually people like IDEs or they don't.
[10:20] <nevron> people what is the best vector greaphics application under linux
[10:20] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: as long as you don't have any big databases or websites, 10-15gig
[10:20] <fiberchunks> 10-15G really - that big?  wow
[10:20] <rattlerviper> edawg26, well I'll soon know I've been using gedit
[10:20] <niner4ever> especially when i want to try <virtualhost> on apache
[10:20] <edawg26> unop: yeah, but like, the eclipse-pydev package SEEMS to install the correct plugins.. I'm testing it right now
[10:20] <unop> edawg26,  like emacs or vim I suppose you just install language support and off you go
[10:20] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: well, I install a lot of crap, you'd get by mostly on 5 maybe
[10:20] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, does ubuntu cache the apt-get'd packages, or does it remove them on install?
[10:20] <niner4ever> is there a way to make a domain without actually having one?
[10:21] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: it caches - you can set cache size & expiry periods - 500meg is typical
[10:21] <variant> !install
[10:21] <unop> edawg26,  well, you might need to fiddle about in eclipse to get this python support turned on .. i wouldnt know how tho
[10:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:21] <rattlerviper> niner4ever, are you just trying to run a home network?
[10:21] <fiberchunks> ah, cool, thanks
[10:21] <niner4ever> yeah
[10:21] <variant> niner4ever: try dyndns.org
[10:21] <edawg26> rattleviper: it's pretty much a question of, do you want an editor that is going to do basic syntax highlighting, give you colors/etc. Or do you want a heavy editor that is going to offer methods up as soon as you type in your class name/variable name...
[10:21] <ddnngg> any1 have unned cedega promo code ?? :>
[10:21] <edawg26> rattleviper: i'm checking it out right now to see what it can do...
[10:21] <niner4ever> yeah but i dont really want anyone else accessing my lan either
[10:21] <niner4ever> so i wont be port forwarding
[10:22] <niner4ever> would it still work?
[10:22] <rattlerviper> edawg26, thanks...I'm downloading it right now
[10:22] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, one more question: I usually use ext3 -- but I'm looking for a faster journalling filesystem -- what's the state of reiser these days?
[10:22] <edawg26> rattleviiper: but yeah, anyway you cut it, eclipse is HEAVY
[10:22] <unop> edawg26,  have you checked out the pydev documentation?
[10:22] <rattlerviper> edawg26, well my computer can handle it I just usually try to stay away from the fat
[10:22] <newest007> wierd, i even have a nat error for 6881 in azureus...
[10:22] <edawg26> unop: nope, haven't rtfm'ed, hehe. I'm just installing it and seeing if eclipse will show up with a python editor.
[10:22] <newest007> this is totally frustrating now...
[10:22] <unop> edawg26,  http://pydev.sourceforge.net/
[10:23] <niner4ever> variant: would those dynamic domains still work if i dont forward my ports?
[10:23] <newest007> because i have np with windows and portforwarding and azureus
[10:23] <rattlerviper> newest007, google port forward...
[10:23] <newest007> i did
[10:23] <newest007> i know how to portforward dude
[10:23] <newest007> i have before
[10:23] <newest007> successfully
[10:23] <newest007> np's at all
[10:23] <edawg26> unop: see, ubuntu makes it easy for the worst sorts of users who will apt-get install eclipse-pydev, let it drag in all the crud necessary, and test it out. All without reading the manual.
[10:23] <newest007> but ubuntu dont want a piece of it
[10:23] <rattlerviper> newest007, wierd your having a issue.
[10:23] <rus_net> Is anyone able to help with an X problem, error message: "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[10:23] <edawg26> unop: I will read this link you sent me though, thanks!
[10:24] <broadcast> hi
[10:24] <newest007> i just booted into windows xp before, and tried azureus on that, no nat errors what so ever
[10:24] <newest007> same port settings, everything
[10:24] <unop> edawg26,  a picture is indeed a thousand words - http://pydev.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html :)
[10:24] <newest007> but ubuntu wont let me do it
[10:25] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks:  a good question - but for a desktop, I doubt you'd notice the difference - if you want, you can disable atime, or if you're really pushing it, enable write back
[10:25] <rattlerviper> unop, nice
[10:25] <fiberchunks> frogzoo_, many thanks :)
[10:26] <frogzoo_> fiberchunks: much as I'd like to enable write back, that's a little too fruity for me
[10:26] <mzuverink> can i use fetchmail to get mail from my two gmail accounts and then somehow pipe them to spamassassin and then place them in a mailbox in my home dir to be accessable by thunderbird?
[10:26] <fiberchunks> indeed
[10:26] <fiberchunks> I was thinking about using this system for play mostly (it has no cdrom, floppy, etc, but it's new) so I'll probably dabble with XFS / JFS for giggles :)
[10:26] <unop> edawg26,  install pydev and try creating a new project or python file -- i should imagine eclipse autodetects based on filename and gets everything ready and set for you :)
[10:27] <unop> rattlerviper,  it looks nice .. but it's eclipse .. thats enough to tell me, not everything that glitters is gold :)
[10:27] <rattlerviper> unop, hahaha
[10:27] <edawg26> unop: It SHOULD but i'm having some trouble. Wants me to configure it. I can figure that out from the manual.
[10:28] <edawg26> its all a matter of opinion. Different tools for different people.
[10:28] <mzuverink> Where would be the proper channel to ask fetchmail related questions?
[10:29] <CheshireViking> when ubuntu boots I get a list of 4 figure hex numbers and fsck errors saying not fixed at the moment, but i don't see the whole message, is there a boot log that will give me the full error message so i can read it & try to fix it?
[10:29] <newest007>  oh man, this is just not right
[10:29] <newest007> i cant find anything!
[10:30] <unop> newest007,  why not invest your time in looking for another bittorrent client :) save your frustration
[10:30] <rattlerviper> night guys.  Talk to you all later
[10:30] <edawg26> rattleviper: Yeah, this won't work out of the box for me. If you're still interested in checking it out, Look at the screenshots in UNOP's link. If you're still interested in getting it to work we can chat about it more, I should have it going in a few minutes.
[10:30] <mneptok> newest007: what are you trying to do?
[10:30] <rattlerviper> edawg26, allright.  Just really tired right now.  For some reason it's downloading really slow for me.
[10:31] <newest007> cause demonoid dont like many other bittorent clients
[10:31] <newest007> none that i know of anyways
[10:31] <newest007> private trackers are pretty strict with clients
[10:31] <rattlerviper> newest007, you could always run utorrent under wine if your desperate.
[10:32] <mneptok> newest007: i'm happy to help. i have a lot of experience with BT and Ubuntu
[10:32] <rattlerviper> and utorrent is well accepted too.
[10:32] <rattlerviper> newest007, perhaps that would work for you.
[10:32] <rattlerviper> rattlerviper, well good night all
[10:34] <newest007> basically, ive portforwarded before, i was in windows xp not more than an hour ago, dl with azuerus nps at all, no nat errors nothin, but when im in ubuntu, i just get nat errors, and the DHT is also firewalled
[10:34] <newest007> yes my router is portforwarded
[10:34] <mneptok> newest007: does Ubuntu get the exact same IP address as Windows had?
[10:34] <newest007> im not sure how to check my ip in ubuntu
[10:34] <mneptok> ifconfig
[10:35] <newest007> its the eth0 i should be looking at?
[10:36] <mneptok> i don't know. i'm not in front of your machine. ;)
[10:36] <mneptok> do you use a wired or wireless connection?
[10:36] <newest007> wired
[10:36] <newest007> theres two things that show up
[10:36] <newest007> eth0 and lo
[10:36] <newest007> wiht infomation regarding both
[10:36] <glenn> good night all
[10:36] <mneptok> do you have other interfaces? do they have DHCP IP leases active?
[10:36] <cyphase> anyone know how to join the gobby session for editing the herd4 release notes?
[10:37] <newest007> not that i know of
[10:37] <mneptok> newest007: you want eth0, in that case
[10:37] <newest007> ah kk
[10:37] <newest007> then omg.. .lol
[10:37] <newest007> yes, ubuntu uses a diff ip i think
[10:37] <mneptok> then there's your problem
[10:37] <edawg26> newest007: it really depends on your dhcp server (build into your cable/dsl router if you have one).
[10:37] <mneptok> you're port forwarding to the wrong IP.
[10:39] <newest007> lol
[10:39] <newest007> gawd
[10:39] <newest007> i soooooooooo wish i knew a bit more about linux, lol
[10:40] <newest007> and voila!!!
[10:40] <newest007> nat error resolved!!!
[10:40] <newest007> yay!
[10:40] <newest007> thank you!!
[10:42] <newest007> thanks again! that was soo frustrating lol, have to go, bye :)
[10:43] <Keitaru> I've just installed ubuntu for the first time now how do you do those cool gui effects?
[10:43] <niner4ever> anyone care to solve another nat problem? lol
[10:43] <JackPhil> I can't poweroff  but reboot is perfect
[10:44] <niner4ever> how do i run a domain in lan without portforwarding
[10:44] <JackPhil> any solution?
[10:44] <unop> niner4ever,  and you want people on the internet to be aware of the domain?
[10:44] <mneptok> JackPhil: bot with the noacpi kernel parameter
[10:44] <mneptok> *boot
[10:44] <niner4ever> not really
[10:44] <niner4ever> just for my lan
[10:44] <frogzoo_> niner4ever: just nat might be sufficient
[10:45] <niner4ever> yeah but i cant test apache virtualhost stuff
[10:45] <unop> niner4ever,  whats portforward got to do with this then? just setup a DNS server and off you go :)
[10:45] <mneptok> Keitaru: those "cool GUI effects" are beta software, have steep hardware requirements, and are not ready for use by inexperienced users.
[10:45] <niner4ever> ah
[10:45] <unop> niner4ever,  or simplistically you can just edit the /etc/hosts file
[10:46] <niner4ever> yeah i had that idea
[10:46] <niner4ever> but i would have to edit all the /etc/host or windows host files on every computer
[10:46] <edawg26> rattlerviper: yeah, this python eclipse plugin seems to work ok and seems a bit userful, but I'm a newbie python programmer
[10:46] <niner4ever> but that dns server idea isnt too bad
[10:46] <unop> niner4ever,  say you want to test out www.example.com on apache .. edit the hosts file and add an entry for it .. firefox should then be able to browse to example.com at the IP address you specified
[10:46] <edawg26> rattleviper: I had to set it up a bit.
[10:46] <niner4ever> yeah i know that would works
[10:47] <niner4ever> how about if i run a dns server
[10:47] <niner4ever> set the router to look up to that dns server
[10:47] <niner4ever> with some bogus host name
[10:47] <unop> niner4ever,  if all the hosts want to be aware of a hostname then the best way is a DNS server
[10:47] <niner4ever> yeah cool
[10:47] <niner4ever> thanks man
[10:48] <unop> niner4ever,  if you setup a DNS server, you probably want all the hosts looking it up before the router
[10:48] <CheshireViking> when fsck finds errors at boot, but says "not fixing them at this time", is there a boot log file that will list the full error so I can try to fix it?
[10:48] <unop> niner4ever, but then again, you can configure the DNS server to also be a forwarder so it forwards requests it does not know about to the router and so on
[10:48] <JackPhil> mneptok, noacpi cannot boot my laptop
[10:48] <niner4ever> hmm i could just set it up on my router to look up to the local dns server right?
[10:49] <JackPhil> actually, i use acpi=off
[10:49] <niner4ever> or does the browsers look up the addresses elsewhere?
[10:49] <niner4ever> do*
[10:49] <unop> niner4ever,  errm, i wouldn't realy on a SOHO router to do that -- the software is either badly written to handle unusual situations or it's just plain incapable
[10:49] <edawg26> niner4ever: your browser will look where your computer's DNS is set to. If your computers get their DNS from the router's DHCP server then yeah, that'd work....
[10:50] <niner4ever> ah i got it
[10:50] <edawg26> niner4ever: but yeah, as unop said, the SoHo router might be broken/untested for a set up like that. I think it's worth a shot.
[10:50] <niner4ever> i'll look into it now
[10:50] <niner4ever> oO
[10:51] <variant> to switch from server to desktop install is it just to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:51] <unop> niner4ever, you could also setup NIS and have a shared /etc/hosts file .. so that one is propogated to all NIS capable hosts .. but that usually excludes windows hosts
[10:52] <niner4ever> yeah ><
[10:52] <niner4ever> majority of the hosts are windows here
[10:53] <unop> niner4ever,  DNS is better then
[10:53] <stylus> which identd works best with ubuntu?
[10:53] <Nitro-Wii> omg this place has so many users
[10:53] <wwwdotcomhere> Hello, how do I uninstall unbuntu?
[10:53] <Nitro-Wii> how do you install ubuntu
[10:54] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, you need to make a disc
[10:54] <Nitro-Wii> i have ubuntu installed lol
[10:54] <unop> stylus,  inetd and xinetd both work well .. you could also use other super-servers but those two are the most popular
[10:54] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, well, then stop being an ass, and please help me uninstall it
[10:55] <mackinac> wwwdotcomhere, install something else over it
[10:55] <Nitro-Wii> uninstall ubuntu why?
[10:55] <stylus> unop, ok.
[10:55] <wwwdotcomhere> mack, I tried, but it won't.  It goes to load
[10:55] <stylus> Thanking you.
[10:55] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, I have an old computer, and I need to put an older OS on
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> boot from cd in boot priorities
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> make sure it doseent boot from HD
[10:56] <wwwdotcomhere> Nitro, but that doesn't mean the OS is removed
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: what are the specs of the machine? RAM? CPU?
[10:56] <wwwdotcomhere> mnep, old imac
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: oh ... to uninstall
[10:56] <Nitro-Wii> wow
[10:56] <mackinac> wwwdotcomhere, when you install a new OS, the boot loader will be overwritten
[10:56] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: with what do you wish to replace Ubuntu?
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> mne, just 9.1 LOL
[10:57] <mneptok> wwwdotcomhere: is Classic installed now?
[10:57] <frogzoo_> any pointers to configuring pppd so it will stay up, or brings it back up when the link drops ?
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> Well, I believe so
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> but when I go to reboot
[10:57] <wwwdotcomhere> it loads ubuntu
[10:57] <Nitro-Wii> its there a bios in macs?