[16:49] <queso_> snowball: so uncomment lines 56 to 78?
[16:49] <antgel> x_: wtf?  what exactly is the answer, and who were the 2 people?
[16:49] <antgel> this should be good
[16:49] <snowball> queso_: just 55-63
[16:49] <snowball> queso_: just 56*-63
[16:49] <x_> antgel, the atom runs at half the speed of an equivalent celeron chip, so using an OS designed to run that chip, for a desktop with a p4 or dualcore or something in it, is stupid. now do you get it?
[16:50] <queso_> snowball: okay, thanks, I'll give that a shot
[16:51] <PrebenR> what is the channel for Karmic?
[16:51] <MenZa> PrebenR: #ubuntu+1
[16:51] <antgel> x_: and what makes ubuntu netbook remix "designed" to run on that chip?  and who were the two people who said that?  i don't think anybody said that
[16:51] <x_> antgel, um. why dont you do some research on why they made a netbook "remix"
[16:51] <PrebenR> thx
[16:51] <antgel> x_: put another way, what evidence do you have that atom compile flags hamper performance on a non-atom processor?
[16:52] <antgel> x_: because i know why
[16:52] <pcassiano> Which Mind Map tool do you use in your Ubuntu (if any)?
[16:52] <x_> antgel, then good.
[16:52] <x_> if you know, you dont need me
[16:53]  * addisonj loves IRC drama, who needs TV
[16:53] <LjL> mcphail, antgel: well, feel free to research this better because i'm a bit confused myself. two facts is that there certainly exist an LPIA (low power intel architecture), and that the download page for UNR says an Atom is "required" (though granted, that's a lie in any case). but it might be that only Ubuntu Mobile, and not UNR, currently use LPIA by default, or that UNR is scheduled to do that for 9.10 but doesn't currently. it's also true that i don't see a
[16:53] <tester123> pcassiano: xmind, or freemind
[16:53] <LjL> separate linux-image for LPIA in the repos.
[16:53] <antgel> x_: well, i don't need anyone whose "help" isn't based on hard facts, i can find loads of speculation on the web, especially in the windows world
[16:53] <Slart> pcassiano: hmm.. give freemind a try.. it's not perfect but it does a reasonable job
[16:53] <kelli> hi all
[16:53] <antgel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1147618 suggests that it runs okay on a non-Atom
[16:53] <x_> antgel, ignored, good day
[16:54] <kelli> hello everyone
[16:54] <mcphail> LjL: i'll have a look at my netbook when i get home
[16:54] <antgel> x_: well, that's one way to get out of a sticky mess
[16:54] <antgel> LjL: any comment on the admittedly spurious link i pasted ^^?
[16:54] <erUSUL> monostone: i'm afraid i can not help further...
[16:54] <iamringo> hey, so potentially dumb question, but anyone know of a terminal command to get the free space on a disk?
[16:55] <mcphail> iamringo: df -h
[16:55] <antgel> iamringo: df -h
[16:55] <iamringo> sweet
[16:55] <iamringo> thanks
[16:55] <antgel> milliseconds in it ;)
[16:55] <x_> anyone with a criminal justice degree lol.
[16:56] <Mariandroid> just criminal, that good too?
[16:56] <monostone> erUSUL, thank you
[16:56] <zmax> hi
[16:56] <duelle> Hi, I have problems setting up a dual boot system with winxp. winxp runs fine in standalone. if i set up ubuntu and grub is installed win says that "ntoskrnl.exe" would be corrupted or missing. I tried many different solutions from the web - but nothing really helped
[16:56] <mcphail> antgel: anyway, you'll soon know if it won't run on a desktop when you try to install :)
[16:56] <x_> Mariandroid, haha as in committing crimes?
[16:56]  * Mariandroid gives a fat wink
[16:56] <LjL> antgel, well, if it's true that it uses the i386 kernel, as opposed to the lpia one, as one post says. though normal ubuntu uses the generic kernel anyway, i don't believe 386 is even available anymore...?
[16:57] <x_> mcphail, i never said it would not run, just for the record
[16:57] <Slart> duelle: what does your grub configuration file look like? can you pastebin it?
[16:57] <Slart> !pastebin | duelle
[16:57] <masquerade> do you say "the media says" or "the media say"?
[16:57] <queso_> snowball: didn't help, from what I can tell :(
[16:57] <Slart> !ot | masquerade
[16:57] <x_> masquerade, in what context
[16:57] <duelle> Slart: u mean menu.lst?
[16:57] <Slart> duelle: yes
[16:58] <masquerade> Slart: omg oke oke. that was just a short question and this channel is not so crowded that this would have disturbed anyone :)
[16:58] <LjL> antgel: ah, no, as for being available it's available. in that case you'll probably want to switch to the generic kernel anyway after installing it.
[16:58] <iamringo> And emptying the trash is the same as rm ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*?
[16:58] <duelle> Slart: ok, wait a sec
[16:58] <masquerade> x_: hold one one second
[16:58] <x_> all the time he spent arguing with me he could have downloaded a ubuntu desktop iso
[16:58] <x_> lol.
[16:59] <duelle> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/298368/
[16:59] <LjL> x_: quit it, seriously. both of you shoud have taken this to PM *ages* ago. this is not the channel for personal bickering.
[16:59] <antgel> LjL: so, install it, install the generic kernel, then tweak the packages as necessary - it's still using the i686 binary package arch in the repos?
[16:59] <duelle> Slart: winxp is on the first partition of a 500gb sata hdd
[16:59] <LjL> antgel: that's the very thing i'm not sure about anymore
[16:59] <masquerade> x_:  like in "the media say/s that it will snow tomorrow
[17:00] <x_> LjL, im sorry i started off trying to help him, and he called me a liar so ... i got mad.
[17:00] <x_> masquerade, says
[17:00] <LjL> antgel: this is a quote from some days ago from someone in another channel: "UNR can be a bit funny if you try to install downloaded deb packages, because its arch. is lpia not i386"
[17:00] <pcassiano> 'xmind', 'freemind'... do exists some Linux's Mind Map tool like the (commercial) NovaMind?
[17:00] <mcphail> antgel: if my memory serves, it is using the standard repos. But my memory is rather poor...
[17:00] <antgel> i already said i'm not in a position to download an .iso.  and for the record, i didn't call him a liar, i just asked him to backup his assertions with data, and he failed
[17:01] <x_> masquerade, only "YOU" can use Say, like I say stop i
[17:01] <x_> t*
[17:01] <antgel> LjL: okay.  i could run it as "live" and see what it does, i suppose.  thanks a lot for the info
[17:01] <masquerade> x_: really? my teacher said it is say because the media was plural.
[17:01] <mcphail> LjL: i have installed x86 debs on UNR (skype, amazon music downloader etc)
[17:01] <LjL> mcphail: the repos might be perfectly standard without the *architecture* being standard. although i admit i'm not seeing much trace of LPIA-compiled packages at archive.ubuntu.com
[17:01] <Slart> duelle: hmm.. it looks alright to me..  that's what my dual boot settings look like... odd that it doesn't work
[17:01] <x_> masquerade, it is plural, says
[17:01] <masquerade> x_: i was arguing with him because i was also thinking it was sayS :)
[17:01] <masquerade> x_: thanks a lot.
[17:01] <antgel> i think this would be a good thing to put on the wiki, it seems to be a bit of a can of worms
[17:01] <LjL> antgel: while doing that, you should run "uname -a" and see which kernel *and* arch it's running with
[17:02] <antgel> LjL: *nod*
[17:02] <duelle> i read, that this error may come from a malformed boot.ini in win, but if i start win with the boot cd and fix the mbr it runs fine again
[17:02] <mcphail> LjL: goog point!
[17:02] <mcphail> *good
[17:02] <duelle> slart: i read, that this error may come from a malformed boot.ini in win, but if i start win with the boot cd and fix the mbr it runs fine again
[17:02] <arshad> hi all
[17:02] <arshad> can any one tell me how to participate in the room
[17:02] <arshad> :(
[17:02] <Roddux> say hi
[17:03] <arshad> i don't understand whats going on
[17:03] <Roddux> like so
[17:03] <Roddux> just lurk
[17:03] <x_> Hi arshad welcome to ubuntu anonymus
[17:03] <Roddux> and listen
[17:03] <antgel> LjL: everything in binary archive appears to be i386 or amd64
[17:03] <duelle> slart: to determine the source of the error i removed a data storage ide hdd - so theres only this one left atm and in this state i installed ubuntu - though grub should just know this one sata-hdd
[17:03] <arshad> is this a place where questions can be posted?
[17:03] <Slart> duelle: hmm... you're not using some weird built-in-into-the-bios boot selector? you're just using the regular grub boot menu?
[17:03] <queso_> snowball: any other ideas?
[17:03] <Roddux> arshad: yesa
[17:03] <saml> how can I see messages during boot?
[17:03] <mcphail> arshad: try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. this room is rather busy and is a support channel.
[17:03] <Roddux> but not if you can google them first
[17:03] <saml> instead of usplash progressbar
[17:03] <x_> LjL, google does say that atom uses intel 32bit instruction set.
[17:03] <snowball_> queso_: not affect?
[17:03] <masquerade> saml: recovery mode?
[17:03] <arshad> thank you
[17:03] <arshad> :)
[17:04] <snowball_> no*
[17:04] <x_> LjL, which would make it fully x86 compat?
[17:04] <LjL> x_: it certainly does, but that's not the point. please, read back what i said
[17:04] <queso_> snowball_ : no, it didn't make a difference
[17:04] <saml> masquerade, no.. during normal  mode.. there's no keyboard shorcut to print messages?
[17:04] <masquerade> saml: i dont know of any, sorry
[17:04] <snowball_> queso_: restore your config back to the original
[17:04] <x_> LjL, read what
[17:04] <duelle> Slart: i think one point in my configuration with both hdd connected is, that the ide hdd is primary master, and all sata ports start at third or fourth
[17:04] <saml> masquerade, oh don't be sorry i love you
[17:05] <x_> duelle, change it in ur bios?
[17:05] <LjL> x_: my messages, where i have explained how something can be perfectly x86 compatible and still be compiled as a different target for optimization.
[17:05] <Slart> duelle: yes.. that kind of makes sense.. that would make the IDE drive sda.. could that be correct?
[17:05] <duelle> Slart: so there is such a menu containing boot priorities, but atm there should be just this one
[17:05] <x_> LjL, that was partially my point for telling him it will run, but not as good as possible.
[17:05] <snowball_> queso_: post your /etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf
[17:05] <duelle> slart: that surely could be - but atm there is no other than the sata hdd
[17:05] <masquerade> saml: lol oke
[17:06] <Slart> duelle: but you're now running with just the sata drive.. and you can boot ubuntu just fine.. but not windows
[17:06] <LjL> x_: and that's the exact same thing that i said, so i'm not sure what you're arguing
[17:06] <duelle> slart: jep
[17:06] <Slart> duelle: if you boot into ubuntu and start gparted, what is the name of the windows partition?
[17:06] <x_> LjL, ok, if its fully x86 compat, then why did they optimize it for something else, is what im missing.
[17:06] <Slart> duelle: is it still /dev/sda1 ?
[17:07] <chi_> hi all, is there a different sound engine in 9.10 in contrast to 9.04?
[17:07] <antgel> actually he said:
[17:07] <antgel> 16:36  x_> many driver etc problems
[17:07] <duelle> slart: wait a sec - gparted isn't installed by default
[17:07] <x_> antgel, cause i did not even think it was x86 at first
[17:08] <Slart> chi_: I think it's still alsa in the bottom.. but you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:08] <duelle> slart: got it - sda1 is my ntfs partition containing winxp
[17:08] <antgel> x_: so you didn't have a clue then got annoyed because i pointed that out.  good to be off your /ig list
[17:08] <boscop> why isn't times new roman installed on ubuntu??
[17:08] <x_> wow. time to smoke a bowl.
[17:08] <x_> adios
[17:08] <LjL> x_: uh. the *instruction set* is the same. however, the hardware implements it in a totally different way from current "desktop" x86 processors. so, the *same* instructions can take *different* amounts of times to execute. additionally, one of the goals of Atom is to take up little power (you can guess that's why it's called a "low power intel architecture"), which makes for a completely different optimization target than one for speed.
[17:08] <LjL> fsaeopu
[17:08] <masquerade> boscop: because it is the worst font ever
[17:09] <MenZa> !offtopic | x_
[17:09] <antgel> what a shame
[17:09] <boscop> masquerade: which one is better then?
[17:09] <mcphail> boscop: property of Microsoft. You can install it, though
[17:09] <masquerade> boscop: dejavu is great. i also like delicious
[17:09] <masquerade> boscop: unfortunately i cant give you a good example with serifs out of my head
[17:10] <MenZa> boscop: What are you using it for?
[17:10] <Slart> !fonts
[17:10] <boscop> MenZa: concept paper
[17:10] <mcphail> boscop: Times New Roman is a fine font. Most MS fonts are good. Arial is the exception. Install msttcorefont
[17:10] <Slart> masquerade: bitstream has a serif font.. also deja something..
[17:10] <masquerade> oh, really? oke then
[17:10] <MenZa> boscop: Bitstream Vera Serif is a wonderful font. If you're willing to dabble in LaTeX, Computer Modern is rather amazing.
[17:10] <boscop> masquerade: dejavu looks pretty much like times new roman. how does it differ ?
[17:11] <masquerade> boscop: it makes a big difference if you look close. also, every idiot uses times new roman, so you want to be better ;)
[17:11] <masquerade> see you everyone, got to go
[17:11] <boscop> masquerade: that's why I use latex, normally
[17:12] <Slart> duelle: hmm.. have been googling around a bit.. haven't really found anything useful.. if you ask me it should work.. don't know why windows is being cranky
[17:12] <queso_> snowball_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/298375/
[17:13] <duelle> Slart: the problem seems to be, that win doesn't really know where to find its files - may I need to change some parameters in menu.lst for booting winxp?
[17:13] <Slart> duelle: here's my menu.lst.. I don't have windows on sda1 so I have to use the two "map" commands.. but this works with windows xp and windows 7
[17:14] <antgel> LjL: thanks again, i'm off now
[17:14] <Slart> duelle: perhaps.. although I doubt it's a grub parameter you need to change.. it might be something in windows though.. something that is used later in the boot process
[17:15] <duelle> Slart: i read that these mapping commands would only be needed if win isn't on the first partition - but i couldn't really find out if i need makeactive or boot in my menu.lst
[17:16] <EmilemiL> I have a problem with the included firewall on ubuntu server, i cant connect to a samba share with my regular (windows) pc. iptables does not show anything, webserver and protftp works tho.
[17:16] <boscop> masquerade: I installed msttcorefonts, but they don't show up in the fonts list after restarting OO!
[17:16] <duelle> Slart: afaik nothing changes in win when i install grub - just the mbr - and if i fix it with win it works fine again - so there has to be some error in the mbr -> grub or am i wrong?
[17:16] <skyl> some of my machines use nano (or something) as the default text editor for things like git commit ... how can I switch back to vim?
[17:16] <Slart> duelle: I actually looked in the documentation about makeactive.. perhaps windows wants its partition to be set "active" .. you could give it a try.. see if it helps
[17:17] <snowball_> queso_: sorry, i don't know what is wrong
[17:18] <Slart> skyl: try setting the EDITOR enviroment variable to vim ?
[17:18] <Zuz|Kubuntu> anyone familiar with twinkle?
[17:18] <mcphail> skyl: some programs respect the $EDITOR or $VISUAL environment variable
[17:18] <duelle> Slart: i tried many different combinations of makeactive etc ... but nothing worked ... does it matter if makeactive is placed before chainload +1 or so?
[17:18] <queso_> snowball_: okay, thanks for your time
[17:18] <Slart> duelle: before the chainloader command would be my guess
[17:19] <mcphail> skyl: the other thing to check out is "man update-alternatives"
[17:19] <EmilemiL> no one that knows how to config the firewall in ubuntu using only ssh? (running headless server)
[17:19] <duelle> Slart: ok, i got grub in front of me  just add makeactive before chainloader +1?
[17:20] <Slart> duelle: yup
[17:20] <cdeszaq1> In Ubuntu server, what is the location of the C header files that match the kernel?
[17:20] <indian_munnda> zaoul: hello
[17:20] <duelle> slup: and change nothing else?
[17:20] <duelle> slart: and change nothing else? sry
[17:20] <Slart> duelle: nope.. keep the rest as it is
[17:21] <duelle> slart: still the "ntoskrnl.exe" missing/corrupt error -,-
[17:21] <boscop> I installed msttcorefonts, but they don't show up in the fonts list after restarting OO!
[17:22] <fcuk112_> how do i uninstall adobe air apps from ubuntu?
[17:22] <indian_munnda> can anyone help me with shell scripting? I want to write a script that should display basic system information, current % use of CPU and load averages of 1, 5 and 15 mins......???
[17:23] <Slart> duelle: then I have no idea.. if it was my system I would have a look at the boot.ini file on the windows system.. perhaps ask in #windows
[17:23] <DekaPink> Hey hey. I have a bit of a problem loading Ubuntu. Now and then, it loads up fine and dandy, but usually the loading screen will finish, disappear, and then the monitor just shuts off and stays that way until I reboot.
[17:24] <snowball_> DekaPink: what version are you running?
[17:24] <OerHeks> indian_munnda i use GKrellm for that
[17:24] <duelle> Slart: i looked @ boot.ini and tried - as in some forums was said - to change paritions or disks - but that doesnt help too ... the config of boot.ini is the same as there would just be winxp only - i compared it with such a system
[17:25] <fcuk112_> ah i can just use synaptic.
[17:25] <DekaPink> snowball_: It most recently happened when I was trying to run 9.04 as a livecd, but it's happened for at least a couple versions back as well.
[17:25] <indian_munnda> OerHeks: wats that?
[17:25] <whiteda> DekaPink, I have noticed that on my Dell running Jaunty every once in a while too
[17:25] <snowball_> DekaPink: what is your graphic card?
[17:26] <duelle> Slart: but i'll give it a try and ask there - although i thought that ubuntu would just change the call to boot and nothing in boot.ini or so
[17:26] <ha1331> Just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. All went pretty well, except for the fact that I had VirtualBox with XP client and after upgrade I didn't have the image anymore. So I lost the whole XP.
[17:26] <DekaPink> snowball_: ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV
[17:26] <OerHeks> indian_munnda it's a tool + gui that display cpu load / temp / proc / hdd use and more
[17:26] <snowball_> DekaPink: do you have restricted drivers on?
[17:26] <dewman> DekaPink, I had that problem as well. What I did was reset the display on my monitor and it seemed to correct the issue.
[17:27] <Slart> duelle: mm.. I don't think ubuntu has changed anything in the boot.ini file.. but the original boot loader from windows might do some magic that grub can't do.. but these are just guesses at this point, sorry I can't be of more help
[17:27] <indian_munnda> OerHeks: but i want to write a script that will display that information, I got an assignment. Thats why...help
[17:27] <DekaPink> snowball_: Not unless that's something that's turned on automatically, as it happens on the livecd as well as when I install.
[17:27] <ha1331> And these days when I start playing movie on smplayer, on start of the movie I get loud cracking noise from speakers.
[17:27] <DekaPink> dewman: Oooh. Thanks. :)
[17:27] <duelle> Slart: ok, then i'll try it @ #windows right? thank you very much for your time - and i hope that my english was not that bad ;)
[17:28] <OerHeks> indian_munnda else maybe this url might help you with commands > http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html
[17:28] <snowball_> DekaPink: go System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[17:28] <diego_> hi
[17:28] <dewman> DekaPink, what I meant to say is that I reset the auto config on the monitor and the display came up...Give that a whirl
[17:28] <Slart> duelle: it's way better than my german ;)
[17:28] <diego_> need help please
[17:28] <duelle> Slart: thx ;) so #windows was the right one?
[17:29] <ha1331> diego_: dont ask if you could get help, jst ask what you need and maybe someone helps you
[17:29] <Slart> duelle: ##windows or #windows.. I'm not sure.. I think it's ##windows
[17:29] <ukev> Hi, I've got a problem with ubuntu one, am I right here for this?
[17:29] <mcphail> indian_munnda: most of that information is avaialable under /proc/
[17:29] <duelle> Slart: ok, got it - thanks a lot - good evening
[17:29] <snowball_> ukev: what is your problem?
[17:29] <Slart> duelle: bye
[17:29] <duelle> Slart: bye
[17:29] <diego_> i have questions about installation of LXDE on ubuntu with gnome
[17:30] <solar_ant> hi all
[17:30] <ha1331> diego_: just ask the question :D
[17:30] <ukev> the evolution contacts don't sync to ubuntu one (karmic) but files and tomboy works
[17:30] <solar_ant> is it allright to ask uestions about portable ubuntu in this room?
[17:30] <ha1331> solar_ant: that's the purpose of this channel
[17:30] <Slart> solar_ant: yup.. just go ahead
[17:30] <DekaPink> I'll try and see if I can boot into Ubuntu now~ BRB.
[17:30] <indian_munnda> mcphail: but i m getting, how should i start.....:(
[17:30] <LjL> portable ubuntu?
[17:31] <diego_> i'd link to install LXDE, can it live with gnome ?
[17:31] <diego_> i will install lxde with apt-get and then what happens ?
[17:31] <diego_> need to uninstall gnome ?
[17:31] <LjL> diego_: you can keep both.
[17:32] <ukev> diego_, it works, you can chose at the login screen which one you want to use
[17:32] <diego_> how can i select them ? automatically at login screen so ?
[17:32] <ha1331> diego_: there is option for it on the login screen
[17:32] <diego_> ok, and with lxde can i use all my software ?
[17:33] <ha1331> just select the one you wish to use
[17:33] <MattRoxors> Hey, can someone help me change terminal so that when i want to open a file from it or use a file i dont have to put the ./ before the file name? so that it will automatically look in my cwd
[17:33] <diego_> all my software available under gnome will be available under lxde ?
[17:33] <mcphail> MattRoxors: that is a bad idea, but you just add . to your $PATH
[17:33] <rascal999> ALERT! /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist. Dropping to a shell! - wubi install, any ideas?
[17:34] <MattRoxors> why is it a bad idea?
[17:34] <MattRoxors> the only reason i want to do it is because that is the way terminal works at my university and i find it easier to use that way =]
[17:35] <mcphail> MattRoxors: if you have an "evil" version of - say - ls in your current directory you may run the evil version rather than the system version when listing files
[17:35] <Etanol> hey
[17:35] <Etanol> noob question
[17:35] <Etanol> does Clam AV on ubuntu scan for windows viruses?
[17:35] <MattRoxors> ee didnt think of that, very good point
[17:35] <mcphail> Etanol: yes
[17:35] <ha1331> MattRoxors: it's a security consern. It's not like the double slash after http: :)
[17:36] <Etanol> mcphail: thanks
[17:36] <diego_> software installed under gnome will be available under lxde ?
[17:37] <dewman> lxde is pretty cool. I just installed it.... =)
[17:38] <diego_> lxde is lighter
[17:38] <diego_> :dewman have you got all your software already installed under lxde too ?
[17:39] <dewman> diego_, No I just installed it about 30 seconds ago
[17:39] <barbaros> hi everybody
[17:39] <snowball_> hello
[17:40] <barbaros> does anyone have a program name providing "free" bluetooth proximity software features
[17:41] <innerself> If I was running Ubuntu server w/o X windows, do I have to have linux on a remote machine to administrate it remotely?
[17:41] <Slart> barbaros: like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=702372
[17:41] <mcphail> innerself: no - you can use the terminal
[17:41] <saxin> innerself: no
[17:41] <DekaPink> Hooray, Ubuntu loaded that time.
[17:41] <fahadsadah> !putty | innerself
[17:41] <elops> using ubuntu 9.04... dual boot with windows 7.... i did this once... to hide the windows partitions from the places menu
[17:41] <fahadsadah> !ssh | innerself
[17:41] <elops> but i cannot remember how
[17:42] <roffe> Is LXDE built by the Lubuntu-guys?
[17:42] <innerself> thank you!
[17:42] <barbaros> thanks alot! i wonder how i missed that one
[17:42] <elops> Any ideas?
[17:42] <Slart> barbaros: you're welcome
[17:42] <elops> i remember something about creating a file and typing the "sda1" "sda2" to hide those volumes from places
[17:42] <elops> but i dont remember how i did that!
[17:43] <falstaff|h> Hello, how can I debug cryptsetup in early stages? I get asked several times for the same password, but i entered it correctly (in the end, the partition is mounted everytime...)
[17:43] <foul_owl> What is a .la file? I am trying to install SDL_image and SDL_net locally, since I do not have root privs. I tried building SDL_image and SDL_net from source, but I get .la files rather than .so and I don't know how to link to them....
[17:44] <elops> ?
[17:44] <elops> i dont want the volumes from windows to show in the places menu... because they're mountable
[17:45] <phako> foul_owl: la is some libtool temporary file format
[17:45] <Slart> http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2008/04/14/what-about-those-la-files
[17:45] <elops> any recommendations here?
[17:45] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to find all mp3 and ogg files on my hard drive and write the output to a text file with an absolute path. Does anybody know how to do this??
[17:46] <elops> just to prevent those volumes to show up on the places list
[17:46] <ostcar> hi, is it posible, to use tracker to get an index from an external hard drive which can be searched direktly?
[17:46] <Slart> MeXTuX: "find" would be just the tool for you..
[17:46] <hugo_> try
[17:46] <elops> someone gave me a link but i cant seem to find that as well
[17:46] <hugo_> sudo intall
[17:46] <MeXTuX> Thanks. I'll give it a try :)
[17:47] <foul_owl> phako: thanks! I'll read the libtool docs
[17:47] <foul_owl> phako: I found the libs.... :rolleyes:
[17:48] <duffydack> elops, you mean the .hidden file?
[17:48] <diego_> firefox and gnome slowdown my notebook
[17:48] <duffydack> i have one to hide lost+found
[17:49] <Lantizia> Lo, can anyone remember that command thats like..... DISPLAY=0 : gedit        <-- i.e. specificy what display you want to launch the command on
[17:50] <heroin_> Hey guys, GDM has a resolution which is unsupported by my monitor so i cant graphically login, just terminal how to i force 1400x900 reso on  gdm?
[17:50] <Slart> Lantizia: DISPLAY=:0.0 gedit   ... from memory
[17:51] <Lantizia> cool thanks Slart
[17:51] <Slart> Lantizia: you're welcome
[17:51] <zer0her0> how do i get terminal to always open in 80x43
[17:52] <duffydack> zer0her0, gnome-terminal --geometry=107x34
[17:52] <unop> heroin, the best way is probably to manually configure your xorg.conf file
[17:52] <axisys> looking for good training center / class for ubuntu advanced.. anyone can suggest one ?
[17:52] <zer0her0> duffydack: thank you
[17:52] <duffydack> zer0her0, obviously changing the numbers
[17:52] <phako> gedit --display=:0.0 should work as well
[17:52] <duffydack> thats just my setup :)
[17:52] <zer0her0> duffydack: right ;)
[17:54] <unop> zer0her0, there's an app called devilspie that you can use to set dimensions, remember workspaces, etc for your desktop applications
[17:54] <DJ-Nomad> hi all I got abluetooth problem,when trying to read music from memory card in phone it times out but it will read my picture,anyone know how to lengthen the timeout period
[17:54] <zer0her0> unop: interesting in repo?
[17:55] <fahadsadah> How do I upgrade Kubuntu to Karmic?
[17:55] <unop> zer0her0, i guess
[17:55] <zer0her0> hehe
[17:55] <unop> !info devilspie | zer0her0
[17:55] <zer0her0> oh awesome bot :)
[17:56] <Slart> !karmic | fahadsadah
[17:56] <brubrick> por favor alguien que hable español!!!!!
[17:56] <Slart> !es | brubrick
[17:56] <shavinder> i have tried creating a secure (username based) file sharing mechanism according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileprint-security.html but when i try to access ubuntu samba share from windows it says "cannot access"  , it cites some path not found reason. Can anybody guide me on this?
[17:56] <zer0her0> just got back from lunch and in semi-food coma
[17:56] <vanishing> !info rickroll
[17:56] <lanoxx> anyone here knows about gnome-session and gnome-save-session?
[17:56] <fahadsadah> Slart: Thanks.
[17:56] <Slart> fahadsadah: you're welcome
[17:57] <Slart> !bot | vanishing
[17:57] <elops> I have a cronjob, whose last act is to shadow a section of the filesystem with lndir.  The cronjob succeeds for the most part, but lndir mysteriously only mirrors about 10% of the target path.  When I run the lndir command standalone, outside a cron job, it works fine.  Anyone have any ideas?
[17:57] <unop> lanoxx, a bit, what's the question?
[17:57] <shavinder> in fact it shows "homes" as the share name which does not seem right cos there is no directory by the name 'homes' on my ubuntu server
[17:58] <unop> elops, does lndir have a debugging facility, if so, you could output that to a log file and examine it that way ...
[17:58] <unop> shavinder,  there is a default share called homes -- see your /etc/samba/smb.conf  which lists all users home directories under it
[17:58] <lanoxx> unop, in man gnome-session there are 3 files mentioned but on my system none of them are present and also running gnome-session-safe does not create any session file
[17:59] <indian_munnda> mcphail: what is the command to know system name?
[17:59] <unop> lanoxx,  session files are created in ~/.config/gnome-session i believe - do you have that directory and anything within it?
[17:59] <shavinder> unop: I shal have to confirm that tommorow at my work place, but the prob is why cant i access it from windows on LAN?
[18:00] <lanoxx> unop, im looking for that issue because in system->preferences->apperance->visual effects my settings are not saved and always reverted on reboot, i believe it has something to do with the session management
[18:00] <unop> shavinder,  well, have you enabled guest access to your shares? if not, have you enabled the samba user? is the samba password database created? etc etc
[18:00] <unop> !samba | shavinder
[18:01] <falstaff|h> Anyone knows how usplash works? How can i show some text on usplash? cryptsetup does it too, how does this work?
[18:01] <innerself> oin #litestep
[18:02] <lanoxx> unop, yeah there are several files present, do you have any idea why the visual effects applet would want to delete the ~/.gnome2/session file?
[18:02] <indian_munnda> can anyone help me with shell scripting? I want to write a script that should display basic system information, current % use of CPU and load averages of 1, 5 and 15 mins......???
[18:02] <lanoxx> for me there is no such file present
[18:02] <lanoxx> indian_munnda, ask in #bash
[18:02] <unop> lanoxx, i'm not totally sure -- but i believe the  ~/.gnome2/session  is no longer used
[18:02] <lanoxx> unop, then is that a bug?
[18:02] <elops> I have a cronjob, whose last act is to shadow a section of the filesystem with lndir.  The cronjob succeeds for the most part, but lndir mysteriously only mirrors about 10% of the target path.  When I run the lndir command standalone, outside a cron job, it works fine.  Anyone have any ideas?
[18:03] <lanoxx> because im running on karmic and just downloaded the latest version of gnome-control-center and this written like that in the source
[18:03] <Slart> indian_munnda: why not parse the output from top?
[18:03] <unop> lanoxx, well, if you have this file and it is not being used - then it's not a bug.  but if you're getting an app wanting this file or to delete it, then yes, it's a bug./
[18:03] <Slart> indian_munnda: or check where top gets the info from.. it's probably available from some file in /proc or /sys
[18:03] <indian_munnda> Slart: there is a condition in assignment not to use top.....:(
[18:04] <madsj> the flash at http://go.tv2.dk/video.php/id-25776457.html is black, but firefox recognizes it as flash; how do I get it to play ?
[18:04] <Slart> indian_munnda: oh.. and then I guess there is a condition that you're supposed to learn something from this excercise too, isn't there? =)
[18:04] <lanoxx> unop, hmm, would be nice to talk to the guy that wrote the patch, any idea who is the maintainer of gnome-control-center?
[18:04] <unop> elops, does lndir have a debugging facility? if so, you could output that to a log file and examine it that way.  if not, you could redirect STDERR to a log file i.e.      lndir .... 2> /tmp/lndir.err.log
[18:04] <indian_munnda> Slart: is the system name and hostname same?
[18:05] <madsj> (same thing happened under windows ...)
[18:05] <RegressLess> just updated to new firefox after removing old. Now there's no firefox under Apps/Internet. How can I fix this?
[18:05] <unop> lanoxx, that info should be available on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <unop> !bug | lanoxx
[18:05] <emilys> hi.. i'm new with ubuntu/linux. i notice that most of the software it's in tar format not executable. why? i have no skill with coding.
[18:05] <duffydack> RegressLess, 3.5 depends on 3.0 :)
[18:05] <lanoxx> unop, thanks
[18:05] <Berzerker-> 3.5 does not depend on 3.0
[18:05] <Berzerker-> it's an entirely separate package.
[18:06] <Slart> indian_munnda: hmm.. I'm guessing no..  couldn't you, just hypothetically have a computer with two nics.. each connected to a different network where the computer had different hostnames.. but the system name might still be the same..
[18:06] <unop> !source | emilys
[18:06] <vanishing> emilys: you have to compile the code in the tar file
[18:06] <duffydack> well when I tried to remove 3.0 after installing 3.5 it gave me warnings
[18:06] <duffydack> and wanted to remove 3.5
[18:06] <Slart> indian_munnda: come to think of it.. I'm not even sure what a system name is...
[18:07] <Berzerker-> I don't have firefox 3.0 installed, but I have 3.5 installed.
[18:07] <MK13> how can i figure out the firmware that my broadcom wireless adapter requires?
[18:07] <indian_munnda> Slart: so do you what is the command to check system name?
[18:07] <indian_munnda> Slart: so do you know what is the command to check system name?
[18:07] <RegressLess> Berzerker-: how did you install 3.5?
[18:07] <vanishing> uname?
[18:07] <vanishing> uname -a
[18:07] <lanoxx> unop, so u are sure that ~/.gnome2/session is not used any more? cause then i would report the bug against gnome-control-center
[18:07] <djdarkman> hello, is there a way for systray capabilities for evolution like KMail?
[18:07] <unop> lanoxx, i'm fairly sure, not 100%
[18:08] <Berzerker-> Regel, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[18:08] <Berzerker-> RegressLess, *
[18:08] <Slart> indian_munnda: hmm.. not sure.. googling suggests "hostname" would tell you the system name..
[18:08] <BoxMagnet> indian_munnda, /etc/hostname
[18:09] <LjL> !info mail-notification-evolution | djdarkman
[18:09] <RegressLess> Berzerker-: your answer is asterisk? I tried sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 but that didn't give me the link to the program in my menu
[18:09] <vanishing> guys..if i nmap localhost -p 0-65535 -sS from local machine, and no port is showing open, then no port is open right?
[18:09] <uni4dfx> how do i force a sound card to always get the same index?
[18:09] <indian_munnda> BoxMagnet: i wqant system name not hostname...:)
[18:09] <djdarkman> LjL: but does it require an open evolution window?
[18:09] <Berzerker-> RegressLess, I pinged the wrong name, my answer is 2 lines above that one.
[18:10] <Slart> vanishing: sounds like a fair conclusion
[18:10] <emilys> vanishing : it's very different with windows, i only need to do double click to install a software. so why not all ubuntu software comes in .deb packages? i really don't understand about this. but i'm proud to use ubuntu, i like the spirit of freedom of it.
[18:10] <LjL> djdarkman: i am not sure, use kde myself
[18:10] <vanishing> Slart: oh..ty
[18:10] <Bodsda> If I have my router sending incoming traffic on a specific port to one of my PC's, how can I tell that PC to then route that traffic to another one of my PC's?
[18:10] <Berzerker-> RegressLess, it's a different program. firefox-3.5 installs "shiretoko", that's firefox-3.5
[18:10] <BoxMagnet> indian_munnda, they are the same in linux?
[18:10] <mcphail> indian_munnda: this isn't a homework channel and your questions aren't very specific. I suggest running "man uptime", "man uname" and searching under /proc/ to complete your homework
[18:10] <vanishing> emilys: you can get a deb file from compiling the source code(ie.the tar package)
[18:11] <Slart> uni4dfx: there is a file you can edit.. /etc/udev/rules.d/ somethnig.. have a look.. they use pretty descriptive names
[18:11] <mandrig> !tar | emilys
[18:11] <Slart> !checkinstall
[18:11] <vanishing> emilys:try getdeb.com to search for your needed package if you dont want to compile..
[18:11] <mandrig> emilys: basically, tar files are archives, like .zip in windows
[18:12] <ThinkWriteMUte> How do I install the Kernel version before the current one?
[18:12] <indian_munnda> BoxMagnet: thats wat i was asking to slart..:)
[18:12] <indian_munnda> mcphail: i m sorry but its too urgent for me
[18:12] <RegressLess> Berzerker-:that's odd
[18:13] <vanishing> ThinkWriteMUte: download the kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/, sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb
[18:13] <shavinder> unop: if I installed ubuntu server 8.7 lts, and if i followed the the link https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileprint-security.html is there anything else i need to do?
[18:13] <shavinder> unop: what i mean is, isnt everything else enabled by default? like samba user etc?
[18:14] <unop> shavinder, hopefully not, if it still doesn't work - you might want to refer to the samba troubleshooting documentation on samba.org
[18:14] <Berzerker-> RegressLess, it's how it is. 9.10 comes with 3.5.3 installed by default as Firefox 3.5
[18:14] <shavinder> unop: well thanks , i shall read up further. thanks
[18:15] <vanishing> !info pptpd
[18:15] <giuppy> ,j linux-it
[18:15] <RegressLess> Berzerker-: either way, that was correct so thanks
[18:16] <falstaff|h> What does this means in a bash script: <&3
[18:16] <vanishing> if i have no open ports on my machine, then can i assume it is safe?
[18:17] <mcphail> falstaff|h: stream 3 is redirected
[18:17] <hemanth> localhost is down, even though apache2 status is OK need some help
[18:17] <vanishing> localhost is down?
[18:17] <biznock09> hi all where can i get usb-creator?
[18:18] <m0RrE> biznock09: it's preinstalled
[18:18] <falstaff|h> mcphail, hm can this influnce the livetime of a variable?
[18:18] <biznock09> morre: where can i find it
[18:18] <Bodsda> Is there any way to have tiered tabs in firefox? For example I could have 3 tabs that when I switch between them shows 3 different sets of tabs... like grouping 3 firefox's together on fluxbox?
[18:18] <m0RrE> biznock09: alt + f2, type in usb-creator-gtk
[18:18] <mamooli> Does any one know a program like open office draw which can use dynamic curved arrows to connect objects?
[18:18] <mcphail> falstaff|h: i honestly don't know what you mean by that! :)
[18:19] <falstaff|h> mcphail, in /usr/sbin/cryptdisks_start, $found is not set to "yes" anymore after this sequence...
[18:19] <biznock09> morre: says it cant find it
[18:19] <m0RrE> biznock09: sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[18:19] <steveire> Hi. I'm having a problem with my X setup. I have two screens, but only one is usable.
[18:19] <m0RrE> steveire: nvidia?
[18:19] <mcphail> falstaff|h: if stream 3 is another script it could reset a variable, i suppose...
[18:20] <steveire> m0RrE: Yes
[18:20] <m0RrE> steveire: have you activated the nvidia driver?
[18:20] <Bodsda> steveire: take a look at the   nvidia-settings    program
[18:20] <biznock09> morre: sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[18:20] <steveire> It was usable before I upgraded.
[18:20] <steveire> I have run nvidia-settings several times.
[18:20] <biznock09> Morre: says it couldn't get
[18:20] <vanishing> steveire:did you try xrandr?
[18:20] <m0RrE> steveire: sudo nvidia-xconfig, restart gdm, then try again
[18:20] <biznock09> Morre: sorry, couldn't find
[18:20] <m0RrE> biznock09: which version of ubuntu?
[18:20] <steveire> My second monitor has aX mouse cursor, but no background and I can't put widows there
[18:20] <biznock09> 8.04
[18:21] <m0RrE> hmm
[18:21] <_Raine_> Hi!
[18:21] <vanishing> !info xrandr
[18:21] <biznock09> morre: is there hope
[18:21] <mamooli> http://noondreams.com/tavon/rss/market
[18:21] <emilys> vanishing : i already browse getdeb.net and try to download and installing something. its easy but its also need dependencies. so why? i'm sorry if it's not the right channel to talk about it cause i see people here not asking Q like i do. can you recommend me channels to talk about it?
[18:21] <_Raine_> I'm having some problems in connection to laucnhpad
[18:21] <m0RrE> biznock09: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.1.10~hardy1_all.deb
[18:21] <mamooli> Does any one know a program like open office draw which can use dynamic curved arrows to connect objects?
[18:21] <d33d> mamooli, DIA?
[18:21] <dan7gg> hello .. i have a problem with a Ubuntu laptop (acer 5315). Can anybody help ?
[18:21] <steveire> Any ideas?
[18:22] <m0RrE> dan7gg: depends on your problem right?
[18:22] <d33d> mamooli, http://projects.gnome.org/dia/
[18:22] <mamooli> d33d: you dont know a better and fancier one?
[18:22] <vanishing> emilys: ugh...most likely your package depend on some other packages that was not preinstalled
[18:22] <Ytxx> anyone used Xen on Ubuntu ?
[18:22]  * skuld needs help with postfix/dovecot with mysql authentication...getting error Unknown Header Line 5 ....
[18:22] <MK13> how do i get my card vendor/id in hex format?
[18:22] <vanishing> emilys:so dependencies needs to be installed in order to make your package usable
[18:23] <biznock09> morre: can this make usb bootables of anything
[18:23] <mamooli> Does any one know a program like open office draw which can use dynamic curved arrows to connect objects?
[18:23] <d33d> mamooli, you could try Inkscape - though its more like adobe illustrator
[18:23] <steveire> What is xinerama?
[18:23] <m0RrE> biznock09: i don't know.. you could get unetbootin for like anything i guess
[18:23] <biznock09> morre: for example i want install programs in another unconnected computer
[18:23] <vanishing> inkscape?
[18:23] <dan7gg> ok.. here it is. I have a router in the house. When I plug the ethernet cable it connects to the network, the dns works, but any connection freezes after the first 100 bytes or so. If I plug the internet cable and setup PPPoE  the internet connection works fine
[18:23] <Slart> mamooli: not sure if there's anything with a gui.. there are some command line utils though.. latex and pstricks is a low level solution..
[18:24] <falstaff|h> mcphail, http://paste.ubuntu.com/298428/, i do a echo $found three times, the last time it is "no" again... and i dont have  a clue why...
[18:24] <mamooli> d33d: i doest have those dynamic curves for connections
[18:24] <vanishing> emilys: also , apt-get build-dep is also useful if you need to compile a package
[18:24] <_Raine_> Anybody knows if launchpad is having connection problems?
[18:24] <dan7gg> any other device i plug in the router works perfectly
[18:24] <dan7gg> except for this acer laptop
[18:24] <biznock09> Morre: thanks
[18:24] <d33d> hm...not sure if there's anything else out there mamooli - however I'm still looking :D
[18:24] <Slart> mamooli: graphviz might be worth taking a look at
[18:25] <vanishing> mamooli: you just need arrows linkings right?
[18:25] <steveire> In the nvidia settings ?I changed from "Separate X screens" to "twinview" and when I hit apply I got  http://dpaste.com/110255/
[18:25] <mamooli> vanishing: yes
[18:25] <steveire> Does that mean anything?
[18:25] <vanishing> then i got a bunch
[18:25] <mcphail> falstaff|h: it isn't easy for me to check that out at present as i am on PuTTY on my mobile phone! You'd need to check the script to see what had been opened as stream 3 and track that down
[18:25] <vanishing> like
[18:25] <vanishing> VYM(view you mind)
[18:26] <vanishing> programs like that
[18:26] <steveire> Do I want twinview or separate in order to have "one desktop of double width"
[18:26] <dan7gg> ok.. here it is. I have a router in the house. When I plug the ethernet cable it connects to the network, the dns works, but any connection freezes after the first 100 bytes or so. If I plug the internet cable and setup PPPoE  the internet connection works fine. Any other device I connect through the router works fine including the laptop running Windows XP or other OS. On ubuntu the connections freeze
[18:26] <d33d> mamooli, http://gaphor.sourceforge.net/ - I see arrows there?
[18:26] <steveire> ?
[18:26] <Guest50206> salut a tous suis nouveau y a t'il un francais dans le coin?
[18:26] <mamooli> d33d: thanks for your care
[18:27] <dan7gg> can anybody help ?
[18:27] <Slart> !fr | Guest50206
[18:27] <vanishing> steveire:   i donno if xrandr command works for nvidia(most likely it will), but it is helpful in setting up dual monitors
[18:27] <Mastrgamr> can anyone just answer some (hopefully simple) questions o.
[18:27] <falstaff|h> mcphail, ah sorry... there is a exit 0 also there, it seems that there is some kind of parallelism
[18:27] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:27] <Slart> !ask | Mastrgamr
[18:28] <steveire> vanishing: Does this help? http://dpaste.com/110259/
[18:28] <dan7gg> !ask I have an Acer 5315. I have a router in the house. When I plug the ethernet cable it connects to the network, the dns works, but any connection freezes after the first 100 bytes or so. If I plug the internet cable and setup PPPoE  the internet connection works fine. Any other device I connect through the router works fine including the laptop running Windows XP or other OS. On ubuntu the connections freeze
[18:28] <steveire> I don't know what it means
[18:28] <Mastrgamr> with the 64-bit, 9.10 beta, is there anywhere i can download the wireless drivers for my broadcom card?
[18:28] <Slart> !karmic | Mastrgamr
[18:29] <vanishing> steveire: hold on..let me pull some info out for you
[18:29] <frikkie> Can someone please give me some help on XSANE. Prints and scans single page documents but as soon as multipage option is clicked the whole program shuts down
[18:29] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:29] <d33d> dan7gg, maybe you've tried this but...powercycling the modem, then router, then plugging in?
[18:29]  * skuld needs help with postfix/dovecot with mysql authentication...getting error Unknown Header Line 5 ....
[18:29] <dan7gg> i've tried all that
[18:30] <m0RrE> skuld: look at line 5 then?
[18:30] <Jen> Hello, please can you help me if possible. I'm attempting to 'gpg --clearsign .ssh/id_rsa.pub' but receiving 'You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for...', I didn't set a password so I'm pressing [ENTER], and then receiving 'gpg: Invalid passphrase; please try again ...'
[18:30] <Jen> What is the solution?
[18:30] <skuld> passdb sql {
[18:30] <steveire> What is xinerama and do I want it disabled or enabled?
[18:30] <skuld> it looks right according to the dovecot wiki
[18:30] <vanishing> steveire: can you give me the output of xrandr -q
[18:30] <dan7gg> when i type ifconfig on the eth0 device i get a large number of errors
[18:31] <d33d> dan7gg, I had that problem on Fedora, it worked on a Vista machine but wouldn't work on my fedora box, I wasn't able to figure it out. I'm wondering if there's any firewall/ports/router issue?
[18:31] <steveire> vanishing: It's the exact same as above
[18:31] <d33d> dan7gg, ooo - pastebin those errors :D
[18:31] <steveire> http://dpaste.com/110259/
[18:31] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:32] <vanishing> steveire: you only have 1 monitor connected atm?
[18:32] <dan7gg> d33d,  it's not with the firewall (direct PPPoE works fine), not with the router (any other device or OS works)
[18:32] <steveire> No both are connected. The second one shows only and X cursor
[18:32] <steveire> What is xinerame?
[18:33] <d33d> dan7gg, right - read your errors and noticed that. can you paste what errors you're getting?
[18:33] <d33d> dan7gg, pastebin! mind you :D
[18:33] <vanishing> steveire: this should help you:http://www.howtoforge.com/dual-monitor-setup-on-ubuntu7.10
[18:33] <dan7gg> don't know how to read them
[18:33] <vanishing> steveire: but i donno why only 1 monitor shows up in your xrandr output
[18:33] <Prune> when ever I try to do something it says I do not have permissions
[18:33] <d33d> dan7gg, can you copy and paste from a terminal?
[18:33] <dan7gg> what command should i use ? i've checked the system logs, but there's nothing there about the errors
[18:33] <mMezquitale> anyone knows if ubuntu plays well with nvidia video cards that are rated for PCI Express 2.0 slot but are used in PCI Express x16 slot?
[18:34] <dan7gg> it says something like TX packets:20 errors:302 dropped:0
[18:34] <iceroot> mMezquitale: that is related to the motherboard, not to ubuntu
[18:34] <BoxMagnet> wait, is 2.0 newer than x16
[18:34] <BoxMagnet> ?
[18:35] <mMezquitale> iceroot, i know the hardware works but will ubuntu have any issues though, that is what I am asking, I can stick a PCI Express 2.0 video card in a PCI Express x16 slot, no issue there but will the OS have any issues???
[18:35] <d33d> dan7gg, that means you have a connection problem somewhere. i think.
[18:35] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:35] <emilys> vansihing : what i'm actually asking here is why ubuntu software didnt always come in .deb? imho it will attract more user to try out ubuntu remembering theres a lot of people who just like me, pure user.  however im using ubuntu for about about 5 months and i rarely go back to windows cause i feel its challenging.
[18:36] <iceroot> mMezquitale: why should the os have an issue with that? if the hardware and connection is ok, ubunu does not care about it
[18:36] <dan7gg> d33d,  i'll do more research and come back soon
[18:36] <iceroot> mMezquitale: its more important that the drivers support the card
[18:36] <vanishing> steveire: how are you connecting your second display to your machine?
[18:36] <mMezquitale> iceroot, you must be new at this then, people have had issues with something as basic as memory
[18:36] <d33d> dan7gg, i'm trying to find a good command for you to get some logs so we can figure this out :D
[18:36] <LjL> emilys: Ubuntu software *does* almost invariably come in .debs
[18:36] <steveire> There are slots for two cables in the card at the back
[18:36] <iceroot> mMezquitale: memory-problems are hardware/motherboard problems, not ubuntu problems
[18:36] <mMezquitale> iceroot, drivers are not implemented in hardware
[18:36] <steveire> Oh, actually there's a plitter
[18:37] <steveire> *splitter
[18:37] <iceroot> mMezquitale: .......
[18:37] <vanishing> steveire: try to connect your second monitor directly to the slot?
[18:37] <iceroot> mMezquitale: i mean the nvidia-linux-driver must support the card
[18:37] <iceroot> mMezquitale: if the card is to new maybe there is no linux-driver for it
[18:38] <d33d> dan7gg, this may seem silly - but try /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[18:38] <toefur> how do i set it to where i can drag the window to the second screen?
[18:38] <Mike_lifeguard> What is the first column in the output of ps aux? Probably either gid or uid
[18:38] <toefur> i use rotate cube and desktop cube
[18:38] <mMezquitale> iceroot, ok before I decide which one to buy I will look up the list for supported hardward,t hanks
[18:38] <toefur> if i turn those off will i be able to do it then?
[18:39] <vanishing> emilys: debs and exes are basicly the same idea, both compiled from source..if you need a deb, the chance is you can find it on the web, but source files gives you more options when you compile imo...
[18:39] <vanishing> steveire: connected?
[18:39] <iceroot> mMezquitale: yes, that is a good idea, the rest (pci x16, pci 2.0) is not part of ubuntu but of your board/the card
[18:39] <dan7gg> d33d, brb 1 minute i'll try that
[18:40] <steveire> vanishing: I didn't change anything. I don't think it's a hardware problem. It worked up until I updated my system an hour ago.
[18:40] <lazarus> where can i find xorg.conf
[18:40] <iceroot> lazarus: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:40] <steveire> (from old jaunty to updated jaunty)
[18:40] <vanishing> steveire: hmm so it was working?
[18:40] <steveire> It was
[18:40] <vanishing> oh....
[18:40] <steveire> I guess I got a new kernel in the update so I had to download and install the nvidia installer again.
[18:41] <Tohuw> How do I tell ufw to always apply rules against a specific interface? Scenario: a system acting as a small dedicated firewall, with 2 NICs, one for inside interface one for outside interface
[18:41] <vanishing> what do you see in System>Preferences>Display?
[18:42] <steveire> only one screen
[18:42] <steveire> The nvidia tool shows both
[18:42] <steveire> But appears to have no effect
[18:42] <emilys> LjL : not xbmc, i love that software but i can't find deb package of it.
[18:42] <vanishing> paste your xorg.conf?
[18:43] <vanishing> onto dpast of course
[18:43] <vanishing> dpaste*
[18:43] <steveire> http://dpaste.com/110272/
[18:43] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:44] <debbie2009> '
[18:44] <debbie2009> good afternoon all
[18:44] <Tohuw> !hello > sebsebseb debbie2009
[18:45] <vanishing> steveire:yup..only 1 monitor is showing in xorg.conf
[18:45] <LjL> emilys: but that's not "Ubuntu software". it's random Linux software made by people who have nothing to do with Ubuntu
[18:45] <debbie2009> would love someone help me create some more space for my file system..only have 1% left
[18:45] <steveire> vanishing: I see two
[18:45] <dan7gg_> d33d,  i tried that .. there is no nscd there... also when i cat /var/log/kern.log i get this "eth0: no IPv6 routers present"
[18:45] <vanishing> wait
[18:45] <LjL> emilys: and anyway they *do* provide their own .deb packags for ubuntu, see http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step
[18:45] <sebsebseb> Tohuw: Better to do that one in the channel, than in pm really, I think
[18:45] <vanishing> steveire:my bad...lol
[18:45] <JesperHansen> hi, I am trying to install 9.10 beta from a usb stick. Downloaded the ISO, mounted it in daemon tools, used the usb util that followed and checked the integraty of the stick and its ok. I am however gettings errors. "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow"... The casper.log is http://pastebin.org/46737 and dmesg is http://pastebin.org/46738 - NOTE: Both are with DEBUG= kernel boot option.
[18:45] <Tohuw> debbie2009: What filesystem format are you using, how big is the hard disk, what other partitions exist on the disk, etc
[18:45] <steveire> vanishing: What is xinerama?
[18:45] <iceroot> JesperHansen: #ubuntu+1
[18:45] <steveire> What is twinview?
[18:45] <Tohuw> sebsebseb: agreed, I meant to use |
[18:45] <d33d> dan7gg_, is your network card setup to specifically use IP6?
[18:45] <JesperHansen> iceroot, kthx
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Tohuw: Plus you can't pm a factoid to two people so debbie2009  never got it in pm
[18:46] <vanishing> !info xinerama
[18:46] <vanishing> hmm
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Tohuw: as far as I know
[18:46] <vanishing> wait
[18:46] <steveire> vanishing: What actually is it? Should I tick enabled or not?
[18:46] <dan7gg_> i don't think so...
[18:46] <Tohuw> sebsebseb: yeah, meant to do !hello | sebsebseb debbie2009
[18:46] <Tohuw> sebsebseb: yeah, meant to do !hello | sebsebseb, debbie2009*
[18:47] <vanishing> steveire: xinerama:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama
[18:47] <Tohuw> anyway
[18:47] <iceroot> sebsebseb: twinview = same view on both screens, xinerama (nvidia) 2 different screens but one resolution
[18:47] <d33d> dan7gg_, ok sorry - sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:47] <sebsebseb> iceroot: wrong person?
[18:47] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:47] <toefur> xinerama i hear isnt good
[18:47] <debbie2009> Thanks Tohuw... erm i think i only set up a 5gb partition for linux
[18:47] <Tohuw> iceroot: you want steveire
[18:47] <vanishing> steveire: iceroot:twinview = same view on both screens, xinerama (nvidia) 2 different screens but one resolution
[18:47] <dan7gg_> no way... the DNS works and I can send and receive about 100 bytes through a connection before it freezes
[18:47] <iceroot> sebsebseb: hm, sometimes the tab from irssi is not perfect...
[18:48] <Tohuw> debbie2009: post the output of sudo fdisk -l to pastebin and link to it, please
[18:48] <digital-rouge> hello all i need help my eth1 chipset is unknown i dont know y
[18:48] <debbie2009> ok
[18:48] <vanishing> steveire:so twinview is mirror and xinerama is extension...from iceroot
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Nearly 1600 nicks the numbers are becoming bigger!
[18:48] <digital-rouge> lool i still cant registermine
[18:48] <Aviram> Hey, How do I put icons there like in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-sw7uPege0
[18:48] <Aviram> at 1:00
[18:49] <cgroza> hello,in xawtv my logitech quick cam chat for skype works...and it worked in skype a few days ago...but now it no longer works...can you help me?
[18:49] <ovy> hi anyone uses ubuntu 9.10 prv me, i have a question
[18:49] <iceroot> ovy: #ubuntu+1
[18:49] <a__> how do you change permissions in a ntfs external HD from read only to read write. I've already tried the gui, with no effect.
[18:50] <craigbass1976> I've got a brother MFC 7840 that's out of ink.  Is there any Ubuntu way to get into it and retrieve the faxes it has in the print queue (and how do you spell cue with the qu?)
[18:50] <emilys> LjL : thank you for the link you gave me. i think i can install xbmc right now. and what about vuze? im installing it from add/remove but it still in v.3
[18:50] <d33d> Aviram, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[18:50] <sebsebseb> debbie2009:  I just joined, and I done partitions loads of times. You just installed Ubuntu or something?   Yes  5GB  for Ubuntu isn't much,  10 to 12GB /  some swap space, and a big seperate /home that's a good set up
[18:50] <janjiss> Hi guys!
[18:50] <d33d> cgroza, did you try enabling it in skype?
[18:51] <Tohuw> !info avant-window-navigator | Aviram
[18:51] <cgroza> d33d,idk how i do that?
[18:51] <debbie2009> thanks seb - i cant even save a screenshot to desktop, as it says drive full *-(
[18:51] <LjL> !backports | emilys
[18:51] <steveire> http://img18.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img18/8399/errrnvidia.png
[18:51] <a__> owner main directory is root, owner of subdirectories is 99
[18:51] <sebsebseb> ovy: I do, but you can ask more than one person in #ubuntu+1
[18:51] <steveire> Apparently I can't copy/paste from that dialog
[18:51] <cgroza> d33d,it works in xawtv,ekuga but in skype it doesnt
[18:51] <digital-rouge> hey guys need some help with network problems
[18:51] <d33d> cgroza, one second...let me grab skype and test it out on my laptop. I think its just a hardware config.
[18:51] <Aviram> Which one is the one with the "physics"?
[18:51] <cgroza> d33d,ok
[18:51] <dan7gg_> d33d,  i tried restart network... no luck
[18:52] <Aviram> Avant-Window-Navigator or CairoDock?
[18:52] <sebsebseb> debbie2009: ok I see
[18:52] <Tohuw> Aviram: both technically but, you probably want avant-window-navigator
[18:52] <sebsebseb> debbie2009: well yeah sometimes new users do stuff like that, and then run out of space
[18:52] <sebsebseb> debbie2009: Have you got the LIve CD?
[18:53] <Tohuw> debbie2009: you can copy and paste output from the terminal. drag across the text, right click and copy, then go to www.pastebin.ca and paste it in there
[18:53] <debbie2009> its crazy, i know... just need to know what if anything i can remove from the home directory
[18:53] <debbie2009> ok,ill try
[18:53] <janjiss> Heppy birthday ubuntu! :)
[18:53] <devaj> hi all can someone help me with backup
[18:53] <Aviram> Tohuw, why?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> Tohuw: Did you give her a command to run?
[18:54] <devaj> i wanna backup my system partition to my external hdd
[18:54] <debbie2009> http://pastebin.ca/1635393
[18:54] <sebsebseb> devaj: usaully people only really need to,  backup what's in /home
[18:54] <geurthakfoort> tar + gz
[18:54] <Tohuw> Aviram: configuration and featureset. The one specifically shown in that video is avant-window-navigator
[18:54] <Tohuw> sebsebseb: yes, fdisk -l
[18:54] <sebsebseb> Tohuw: ok
[18:54] <devaj> well my problem is this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/backup-solutions-763284/#post3727233
[18:55] <devaj> hope u get a good idea about what i am trying to explain
[18:55] <AhmedGogan> hi
[18:55] <d33d> cgroza, ok sorry- let me install skype now - one min :D
[18:55] <AhmedGogan> does ubuntu has multi desktop facility ?
[18:55] <AhmedGogan> ??
[18:55] <d33d> AhmedGogan, meaning?
[18:55] <cgroza> d33d,ok : thanks for helping me :D
[18:56] <devaj> anyone got any solutions
[18:56] <emilys> vanishing LjL thanks to both of you
[18:56] <AhmedGogan> i mean to say more than one desktop
[18:56] <AhmedGogan> the feature usuall in linux shells
[18:56] <devaj> please visit http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/backup-solutions-763284/#post3727233
[18:56] <vanishing> emilys: np
[18:56] <devaj> i am still without any answers
[18:57] <d33d> cgroza, so you do have skype installed just fine, program works right? on ubuntu?
[18:57] <devaj> for the last 2 days lol
[18:57] <cgroza> d33d,yes
[18:57] <debbie2009> i have a 500mb linux swap partition - could i not use this?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> devaj:  a browser has to be open befor webpages can be gone on
[18:57] <yago> quit
[18:57] <Tohuw> debbie2009: You don't have any room to increase the partition, because the rest of the disk is in use. I suggest backing up any files and either redoing your partitioning scheme and reinstalling everything or (easier) add a new drive
[18:57] <a__> how do you change permissions in a ntfs external HD from read only to read write. I've already tried the gui, with no effect.
[18:57] <sebsebseb> devaj: I was opening mine
[18:57] <dAlfa89_> AhmedGogan, yes it does, you should have a little desktop switcher on your top bar?
[18:58] <Tohuw> debbie2009: in general, your swap space ought to be 2x the size of your physical RAM
[18:58] <sebsebseb> debbie2009: How much RAM do you have?
[18:58] <AhmedGogan> any on here to answer my question ?
[18:58] <debbie2009> oh......i have 1gb ram
[18:58] <devaj> so any solutions my friends
[18:58] <ermeyers> ?
[18:58] <digital-rouge> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device   ????????????????????????????/ someone help please
[18:58] <sebsebseb> devaj: I'll have a quick look hold on
[18:58] <debbie2009> ok...ill format the drives and retry
[18:58] <devaj> thank you sebsebseb
[18:58] <TimothyA> digital-rouge; give the ?'s a break
[18:59] <debbie2009> i have a dua boot system, so i really dont want to dmage windows
[18:59] <digital-rouge> key stuck
[18:59] <henriquelm> Hello there
[18:59] <digital-rouge> timothya: can you help
[18:59] <madsj> digital-rouge: it's bad to pour coke in your keyboard ;-)
[18:59] <debbie2009> thanks for all your excellent help
[18:59] <digital-rouge> it aint coke :)))
[19:00] <ThinkWriteMUte> How do I stop it from logging in automatically via CLI?
[19:00] <madsj> digital-rouge: any sticky liquid will do the same trick ;-)
[19:00] <digital-rouge> tell me about it
[19:00] <digital-rouge> so can someone help me wiht this error
[19:00] <d33d> cgroza, still with you - just downloading/installing :D
[19:01] <henriquelm> What's the best way to partition a hard drive to ensure that I'll be able to upgrade ubuntu later without losing files?
[19:01] <cgroza> d33d, ok
[19:02] <AhmedGogan> any php expert here ?
[19:02] <digital-rouge> henriquelm: back up everythign on cd's or external drive
[19:02] <MrDusty> Hey guys I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and have configured my work VPN using NetworkManager (just like I have for my ubuntu laptop which runs 9.04) and for some reason, it doesn't do anything when I try connecting.. it doesn't error it just does simply nothing, I can't see anything in syslog relating to it either, so it looks like its not working.  Is anyone else having similar issues with this? Is it known, am I doing something stupid ?
[19:02] <snowball_> MrDusty: what vpn client are you using?
[19:03] <d33d> cgroza, ok so lets go to... the little Skype icon at the bottom, click it, and go to options, then click on "Video Devices" on the left hand column and make sure that "Enable Skype Video" is CHECKED, and what's listed in the "Select Webcam" area?
[19:03] <LjL> !karmic
[19:03] <henriquelm> digital-rouge, wouldn't be better to just have different partitions?
[19:03] <Bodsda> Hi - I have pc1 and pc2: pc1 is sharing its connection with pc2. I have my router set up to forward incoming http traffic to pc1. How can I configure pc1 to send any incoming http traffic to pc2?
[19:03] <d33d> ubottu, Lies. Karmic hasn't broken me.
[19:03] <digital-rouge> well what if somethign happens to one of them
[19:03] <digital-rouge> or both
[19:03] <petter_> upgraded to 9.04, booted fine first time. but when I picked my usual -rt kernel, nvidia wasn't compiled in for it. do I need to just install linux-restricted-modules-rt?
[19:03] <cgroza> d33d,its checked and its listed /dev/video0
[19:04] <d33d> cgroza, when you click it - do you get any other options?
[19:04] <cgroza> d33d,no
[19:04] <MrDusty> snowball_, Actually I am lying, errors here: http://pastebin.ca/1635412 - I am using PPTP so network-manager-pptp
[19:04] <petter_> doesn't seem like restricted-modules-rt installed it!
[19:04] <devaj> people any good duplicate finder available for ubutnu
[19:05] <cgroza> d33d,if i click test ,the test era is getting grey
[19:05] <BoxMagnet> .
[19:05] <d33d> cgroza, interesting. ... seems like skype can't see your cam - UNLESS that's your camera just named /dev/video0 by default...
[19:05] <devaj> with good option sets
[19:05] <henriquelm> digital-rouge, I know, i will keep a backup of the most important stuff, but what if I have a separate partition for "var", or "etc"
[19:05] <cgroza> d33d,and if i unplug the camera i get the same result
[19:05] <henriquelm> or home
[19:06] <dayzmelttogether> hello
[19:06] <digital-rouge> ok are you asking what the best format would be or ?
[19:06] <snowball_> MrDusty: are you running this as root?
[19:06] <d33d> cgroza, what's the camera again? Make / Model and What version of Ubuntu and Skype are you running?
[19:06] <dayzmelttogether> hi is anyone here a guru with ubuntu?
[19:06] <snowball_> maybe
[19:06] <cgroza> d33d,its a logitech quick cam chat for skype
[19:06] <digital-rouge> only the peopel with funny names
[19:06] <goose> dayzmelttogether: what do you need?
[19:07] <dayzmelttogether> well im in a bit of a jam
[19:07] <sgs1990> does ennyone know how i can delete a folder that is in the location pannel???
[19:07] <henriquelm> digital-rouge, yes, what's the best way to format the hd to run ubuntu and be able to upgrade later
[19:07] <cgroza> d33d,and the skype version its 2.1
[19:07] <snowball_> dayzmelttogether: what's up?
[19:07] <dayzmelttogether> my keyboard and mouse miraculously stopped workin last night
[19:07] <digital-rouge> use gnome partition manager
[19:07] <digital-rouge> its the easyest
[19:07] <dayzmelttogether> i didnt update, i noticed it happened wen i tried the beta of ubuntu 9.10
[19:08] <d33d> cgroza, try following this - see if that works. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651375
[19:08] <snowball_> dayzmelttogether: did you upgrade your distro to 9.10
[19:08] <henriquelm> digital-rouge, i don't mean the software man
[19:08] <AhmedGogan> does ubuntu supports ip changing software ??
[19:08] <cgroza> when i try to install gspca-source it says package not found
[19:08] <dayzmelttogether> so i reverted back to 9.04 wen 9.10 didnt work and for days its been fine now even puppy linux and the live cds have no mouse or keyboard support
[19:08] <digital-rouge> im trying to remember the correct format
[19:08] <devaj> I WOULD BE REALLY GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE COULD HELP ME OUT OF THIS PROBLEM
[19:09] <cgroza> d33d,when i try to install gspca-source it says package not found
[19:09] <hsarci> rythmbox starts with my macine even though is not in my "Startup programs" list....any ideas??
[19:09] <digital-rouge> its somethign 3
[19:09] <devaj> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/backup-solutions-763284/#post3727233
[19:09] <digital-rouge> im looking it up
[19:09] <cgroza> d33d,do i need other repos?
[19:09] <henriquelm> ext3?
[19:09] <digital-rouge> yes
[19:09] <henriquelm> gosh, forget it man
[19:09] <henriquelm> nevermind
[19:09] <dayzmelttogether> i got 8.04 live cd with support by messin with the f6 options..but how do i fix it
[19:09] <Tohuw> !manners | devaj
[19:09] <d33d> cgroza, im no master at this...can you get anymore information on the camera (Eg: Logitech Quickcam Express...? Express II??
[19:09] <digital-rouge> thats it ext 3 is what ubuntu wants you to use when instalig but fat 32 will work with both linux and windows
[19:09] <sgs1990> does ennyone know how i can remove a folder that is in the location pannel??????????
[19:09] <henriquelm> by the way, there's ext4 already
[19:10] <sebsebseb> devaj: uhmm not that sure about backup to be honest, however maybe this will be useful
[19:10] <digital-rouge> im new to ubuntu
[19:10] <Tohuw> sgs1990: in general, drag it out or right click and remove
[19:10] <snowball_> dayzmelttogether: you mean to say that no live cd's have mouse/keyboard support or just 9.10?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> !backup |  devaj
[19:10] <digital-rouge> but i had a bunch of problems wiht the formating so i know a thing or 2 now
[19:10] <henriquelm> digital-rouge, I can tell, thanks though
[19:10] <dayzmelttogether> i mean the live cds dont either but i dual boot in windows and my mouse and keyboard work fine there
[19:10] <digital-rouge> well you got the right answer
[19:10]  * skuld wants to know if anybody has experiance with setting up postfix/dovecot with mysql userbase?
[19:10] <cgroza> d33d,well thats all i know about my webcam
[19:11] <dAlfa89_> What on earth is the difference between filesystem types? Is it something blindingly obvious and I'm being stupid?
[19:11] <sgs1990> does ennyone know how i can remove a folder that is in the location pannel??????????
[19:11] <AhmedGogan> anyone here to help me ?
[19:11] <devaj> well thank you all for all your help
[19:11] <digital-rouge> can someone help me with this? wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[19:11] <ikonia> cgroza: yes
[19:11] <dayzmelttogether> currently i have 9.04 installed, last night i shut down and on boot no mouse or keyboard
[19:11] <d33d> devaj, you could try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/simple-ubuntu-desktop-backup-with-backerupper.html
[19:11] <snowball_> dayzmelttogether: hmm.. i don't have an answer for you, seems like a hardware issue
[19:11] <AhmedGogan> how can an ip be changed in ubuntu
[19:11] <ovy> has this happened to any1? i'm on ubuntu 9.10 and when i set some panels to autohide they hid... permanently... now i cannot make them show and cannot even close them. they show an extra line on the screen and i don't know how to close them
[19:11] <ikonia> cgroza: sorry - that wasn't for you
[19:11] <snowball_> digital-rouge: in terminal type ifconfig
[19:12] <d33d> cgroza, well it looks like the majority of all the cameras work https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[19:12] <devaj> sorry for being such a ****ole
[19:12] <ikonia> skuld: I have done that
[19:12] <sgs1990> digital-rouge:  is your wirless network card supported??
[19:12] <skuld> ifconfig eth0 192.168.x.x for example
[19:12] <dayzmelttogether> well, i know it isnt a hardware issue as ive otten my mouse to work with the live cd im currently using but its no permanant
[19:12] <devaj> thank you all
[19:12] <cgroza> d33d,in hardy worked out of the box
[19:12] <AhmedGogan> where is terminal
[19:12] <devaj> god bless
[19:12] <cgroza> i
[19:12] <AhmedGogan> ??
[19:12] <d33d> cgroza, are you on beta yet?
[19:12] <skuld> @AhmedGogan:  Accessories
[19:12] <cgroza> d33d,i am on intrepid and i have a jaunty cd ,should i upgrade
[19:12] <cgroza> ?
[19:12] <dayzmelttogether> is there a way to rest the grub and xorg file for that install from this live cd?
[19:13] <d33d> cgroza, This is coming from my perspective, I'm no ubuntu-master of any sorts, but 9.10 karmic koala is fantastic, its pretty solid since I've been using it. I really enjoy it.
[19:13] <sebsebseb> d33d: wrong channel you want #ubuntu+1
[19:14] <d33d> sebsebseb, ?
[19:14] <cgroza> d33d,well i will get the stable version...as soon as possible
[19:14] <tavysssss> salut
[19:14] <d33d> cgroza, try out the stable. that's always safest.
[19:14] <sebsebseb> d33d: that's the Karmic channel currently
[19:15] <hsarci> rythmbox starts with my macine even though is not in my "Startup programs" list....any ideas??
[19:15] <dayzmelttogether> does anyone know how to reset the 9.04 kernal , xorg file, and grub loader?
[19:15] <d33d> sebsebseb, Oh! duh sorry about that.
[19:15] <dan7gg_> d33d, if you're still around just want to let you know i solved the problem.. it's the MTU for the ethernet device.. I set it to 1492 and it works like a charm ;)
[19:16] <cgroza> d33d,i will, now after that tutorial after reboot everything should work....
[19:16] <d33d> dan7gg_, good to know- i would have never guessed it was the MTU, usually that's like auto stuff :D
[19:16] <tech_> hello
[19:16] <dayzmelttogether> where would i go for a difficult question?
[19:17] <tech_> Does anyone use gammu/wammu?
[19:17] <dragon> Someone is asking me this, and I need to answer - What percentage of modern hardware (being currently sold) would support Ubuntu server edition?
[19:17] <ha1331> can I have compiz and gnome shell at same time and how usable is gnome shell?
[19:17] <Neremor> hello! could anybode tell me what i have to do to share files with another pc in the network? both PC's are connected to the internet via an dsl modem
[19:17] <iskin> How do I include support for 'alt'+(number code) to type foreign characters?
[19:17] <phisher1> names
[19:17] <soreau> ha1331: 1) No 2) Not at all
[19:17] <ck773> that is really hard to quantify
[19:18] <BoxMagnet> ha1331, compiz is 3d effects like vista.
[19:18] <daevski> Neremor, both linux?
[19:18] <ha1331> dragon: that's kind of difficult question to answer... don't expect your 8$ webcam to work definately
[19:18] <Neremor> yes, both kubuntu 9.10
[19:18] <phisher1> oops!
[19:18] <dragon> ha1331: Did I mention Ubuntu Server edition?
[19:19] <soreau> dragon: 86.975%
[19:19] <teolicy> Hi. I'm looking for a command line utility which can help me solve the following problem: I'd like to copy several large files (say, several movies to a USB stick). I immediately find the first movie to copy, and I want to (a) start the copy, (b) later on start copying another file, but I'd like the latter file to be queued rather than copied in parallel (performance, fragmentation, poor USB controllers, etc). Any recommendations? I'd a
[19:19] <teolicy> happy for a Gnome front end to this utility, but that's part B.
[19:19] <ha1331> dragon: you did. My point was that there is lots of hardware out there.
[19:19] <soreau> dragon: That's from the survey they did last night
[19:19] <dayzmelttogether> ok where would i ask a question specificly on editing devices and setting on ubuntu 9.04?
[19:20] <tech_> I'm looking to get some gammu/wammu help if I can..surely one of these ubuntu pro's could help me out. :)
[19:20] <BoxMagnet> teolicy, sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/dir & second one here & third one here
[19:20] <dragon> soreau: I'm serious here. A person is deciding between Ubuntu and Mac, and I'm influencing his decision.
[19:20] <MrDusty> snowball_, I am logged into Gnome, I would of thought it would of asked to su to root if needs be - how do i do this as root ?
[19:20] <dragon> ha1331: yes
[19:20] <ha1331> dragon: why would you want to have some number?
[19:20] <daevski> Neremor: I'm not familiar with KDE yet, but in gnome all you need is samba installed and to right click the folders and share them, like windows.
[19:20] <Slart> teolicy: perhaps rsync could be of use..
[19:20] <Neremor> well, and how do i connect to this folder from the other pc?
[19:21] <jgay> does anybody know how to make empathy always bring a conversation to focus when someone IMs me?
[19:21] <Neremor> if i enter "smb://" as path there, i get the message that no other pc's were found in the local workgroup...
[19:21] <daevski> Neremor: then you can use any folder viewer and type smb://ip.address.of.machine
[19:21] <jgay> or rather, always add the conversation to my set of conversation tabs
[19:21] <Neremor> ah thanks
[19:21] <teolicy> BoxMagnet: First, I think you mean && and not &. Second, when I give the first copy command I don't know what file b will be. I want to start copy 1, then issue the command for copy command 2, and to have copy command 2 wait to start until 1 finishes. (or better, talk to copy command 1 over a UNIX domain socket and queue the file in that process).
[19:21] <FoolsRun> Hello, I got a call from my ISP saying that they'd received reports of a "tcp sweep" originating from inside my network. I have two Windows PCs and an Ubuntu fileserver with SSH open to the world. Are there infections which could have taken control of the Ubuntu machine and caused something like that?
[19:21] <ha1331> there is no number to be had. Maybe you need to figure out what you need to work and then ask if they work instead of asking how many of all the possible options would work?
[19:22] <soreau> dragon: Then just tell him it's widely freely supported, works with many if not all mac products and everything is freely downloadable/installable through repositories
[19:22] <BoxMagnet> teolicy, ahh.
[19:22] <dragon> ha1331: I'm looking for just a rough estimate. Numbers generally sounds promising. I'll quote what he said.
[19:22] <daevski> Neremor: if that doesn't work look in the kubuntu documentation. I found it to be very well written. I was just doing the same thing recently.
[19:22] <ck773> dragon: check out the hardware compatibility list: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org
[19:22] <iskin> I've set 'right alt' as compose key but I still can't input foreign characters with alt+(num code), like in Windows. Does anyone know how to make this work properly?
[19:22] <falstaff|h> can i log usplash output somehow?
[19:22] <digital-rouge> hey snowball_: help me out some?
[19:22] <arand> teolicy: can you use wait $pid command ?
[19:22] <Tohuw> FoolsRun: yes, there are. If you're going to open SSH, consider using keys instead of password authentication
[19:22] <dragon> ha1331, soreau: This is what he asked: "How does one go about selecting a box to buy when there is the problem that it may have hardware that ubuntu can't use?"
[19:22] <BoxMagnet> teolicy, write a bash script?
[19:23] <snowball_> digital-rouge: yeah, sorry, what's up?
[19:23] <Slart> dragon: you check what hardware is in the box, check the hardware compat. list or try running a live cd on it in some kind of store
[19:23] <ha1331> dragon: well, my experience is that if one buys a real server (not one of those hand build by your car mechanic) it works.
[19:23] <soreau> dragon: In that case, he needs to look at the ubuntu system requirements on ubuntu.com
[19:23] <Slart> !hardware
[19:23] <Tohuw> dragon, soreau, ha1331: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[19:23] <teolicy> arand, BoxMagnet: Yes, that's what I do now. It gets annoying after a while.
[19:24] <digital-rouge> im me snowball- please
[19:24] <tute> Does some one knows a soft to send sms ?
[19:24] <ltcabral> hey how do i see if i have sudo on a machine?
[19:24] <BoxMagnet> teolicy, someone suggested rsync?
[19:24] <teolicy> BoxMagnet: How would it help me?
[19:24] <Slart> ltcabral: "which sudo"
[19:24] <Jordan_U> dragon: You can buy a computer that comes with Ubuntu from system76 or Dell
[19:24] <daevski> Anyone know why my Remote Desktop (viewer) doesn't refresh when I open folders and click around? The mouse moves correctly, and the refresh rate for that seems okay, but it's not refreshing windows. I have to reconnect to see changes... :(
[19:24] <FoolsRun> Tohuw: I'll implement that as soon as possible. What should I look for in the meantime on the Ubuntu machine/what should I be trying to clean up?
[19:24] <digital-rouge> snowball_: just to hard to follow the convo in chat
[19:24] <tonyyarusso> FoolsRun: It's more likely that your ISP doesn't know what they're talking about, but you can use the rkhunter and chkrootkit tools too check your machine.
[19:24] <snowball_> MrDusty: I do not recommend running the connection as root but it looks like you have permission errors (maybe the program was not installed correctly?)
[19:24] <BoxMagnet> teolicy, I am not sure, it may have the options you are looking for, I am not the one who suggested it, maybe scroll up
[19:24] <dayzmelttogether> heeeellllppppppp
[19:24] <Neremor> well, enter the pc of the other pc didn't work
[19:24] <dayzmelttogether> XD
[19:24] <dragon> Tohuw: That page looks scary. I want him to feel comfy with ubuntu. He's ready to spend $999 on a Mac server.
[19:24] <FoolsRun> tonyyarusso: thanks. I have to listen to them because they threatened my service if I don't fix it
[19:24] <soreau> dragon: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/techspecs
[19:24] <ltcabral> Slart: how do i know if MY USER has sudo?
[19:25] <soreau> ltcabral: It does
[19:25] <Tohuw> FoolsRun: stop sshd, and check out your running processes for anything that looks suspicious
[19:25] <\W3nd|g0> hi
[19:25] <dragon> Slart: LiveCD will be an option AFTER he buys it.
[19:25] <dayzmelttogether> i need an expert, where can i find 1?
[19:25] <teolicy> Slart: How do you recon I should use rsync here?
[19:25] <ltcabral> soreau: i just see /usr/bin/sudo
[19:25] <Tohuw> !ask | dayzmelttogether
[19:25] <soreau> ltcabral: and?
[19:25] <ha1331> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMcSNfrT-4M
[19:25] <FoolsRun> Tohuw: Well I need to keep sshd on right now --I'm not on-site :)
[19:25] <ltcabral> soreau: that means i have sudo?
[19:25] <ha1331> oh, sorry, wrong window
[19:25] <soreau> ltcabral: yes
[19:25] <korcan> how do I flush the dns cache?  I don't have nscd to restart...
[19:26] <Slart> ltcabral: YOUR USER doesn't have sudo.. the system has sudo installed.. or it hasn't.. then the user can be configured to be allowed to use sudo or not.. which question are you asking?
[19:26] <tonyyarusso> dragon: I don't know percentages, but "most".  If you want to be sure, check out providers like System76, ZaReason, Dell, and Sun, which all certify all or some of their hardware with Ubuntu.
[19:26] <Jordan_U> korcan: There is no dns cache by default except in the browser
[19:26] <Tohuw> FoolsRun: then change your passwords and check your passwords
[19:26] <ltcabral> Slart: ok i got it... thanks
[19:26] <Slart> dragon: then I guess the live cd isn't an option
[19:26] <tonyyarusso> FoolsRun: Ask for logs.
[19:26] <BoxMagnet> putting your self in the same group as root = bad idea, or good idea?
[19:26] <Tohuw> FoolsRun: check your processes, not your passwords, sorry typo
[19:26] <korcan> Jordan_U, so closing the browser should do it?
[19:26] <Jordan_U> korcan: Yes
[19:26] <dragon> tonyyarusso: That's a good idea. I'll check the certification thing. Thanks!
[19:26] <MrDusty> snowball_, Its installed by default, we're talking about NetworkManager
[19:27] <korcan> Jordan_U, thanks...
[19:27] <Slart> teolicy: well.. you can use rsync as a file copy with some extra features.. I'm not sure but it's possible that rsync can be convinced to do what you want..
[19:27] <Tohuw> BoxMagnet: depends on the group and what that group has access to
[19:27] <tonyyarusso> FoolsRun: You can also look through /var/log/auth.log for any logins from IPs that aren't yours.
[19:27] <dayzmelttogether> ok, no mouse no keyboard, suddely stopped working after reboot, doesnt work with live cds unless i check all f6 options, works fine with windows dual boot, how to i reset whatever it is that halted those functions??
[19:27] <Tohuw> BoxMagnet: putting yourself in the group called root is a very bad idea
[19:27] <BoxMagnet> Tohuw, ok, i think ill stay away from doing that.
[19:27] <snowball_> MrDusty: try installing vpnc
[19:27] <mneptok> dragon: what type of hardware is being bought?
[19:27] <BoxMagnet> Tohuw, what can happen?
[19:27] <tute> Does some one knows a soft to send sms ?
[19:27] <FoolsRun> Tohuw: thanks. I haven't completed malwarebytes scans on the Windows machines yet, so hopefully I'll find something there.
[19:27] <teolicy> I /think/ (this is a bit of an open idea here) that what I really want is this: a copy program which has a separate UI and daemonized backend. The backend has a queue. The front end can: block and show the progress of the backend (speed, estimated progress, etc) OR add something to the queue of an existing backend OR start a whole new backend. Think 'screen'.
[19:27] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, is someone using ur wifi to download stuff?
[19:27] <snowball_> MrDusty: the default network manager doesn't come with vpn
[19:27] <daevski> tute: gmail does it now.
[19:28] <dragon> mneptok: A regular desktop PC, probably quad core, for use with Ubuntu Server Ed.
[19:28] <Tohuw> BoxMagnet: that circumvents much of the protection offered to prevent tampering with system settings and files
[19:28] <tute> i-m trying via web services but i don't want to open firefox to do it
[19:28] <MrDusty> snowball_, vpnc is a cisco client, I have installed network-manager-pptp... ?
[19:28] <daevski> tute: gmail is integrated in Pidgin also.
[19:28] <FoolsRun> BoxMagnet: unlikely, but there are no logs to check so it's possible.
[19:28] <mneptok> dragon: not a rack-mountable machine?
[19:28] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, your router keeps logs.
[19:28] <dayzmelttogether>  no mouse no keyboard, suddely stopped working after reboot, doesnt work with live cds unless i check all f6 options, works fine with windows dual boot, how to i reset whatever it is that halted those functions??
[19:28] <dragon> mneptok: no
[19:28] <MrDusty> snowball_, they are installed anyways.. i just checked..
[19:28] <Tohuw> FoolsRun: my money is on your windows machines being the culprit, but it's hard to say without checking. Try checking your router logs or putting packet monitors like wireshark on each machine
[19:28] <mneptok> dragon: US, or ... ?
[19:28] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, you can also go to the attached devices section and check ip addresses, you can also restrict access to the router based on mac address of each pc's wifi card/nic
[19:28] <dragon> mneptok: yeah, California
[19:29] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, that way if someone can hack the p/w some how they still cant get in.
[19:29] <mneptok> dragon: i think that's spelled "Kuhhleefohneeyah" now ;)
[19:29] <dragon> mneptok: how does location matter?
[19:29] <MrDusty> snowball_, it now fails saying no valid secrets
[19:29] <Slart> tute: sending sms's usually cost money.. it's not a technical problem afaik.. or you can connect a phone using bluetooth and use that to send your sms's.. there is a gnome-phone applet to do that
[19:29] <mneptok> dragon: some Ubuntu vendors do not ship outide of the US
[19:30] <dragon> mneptok: He's looking to pick it up from Fry's.
[19:30] <dayzmelttogether>  no mouse no keyboard, suddely stopped working after reboot, doesnt work with live cds unless i check all f6 options, works fine with windows dual boot, how to i reset whatever it is that halted those functions??
[19:30] <Tohuw> tute: http://www.livejournal.com/tools/textmessage.bml?mode=details
[19:30] <FoolsRun> how often does auth.log get archived? I can unzip the log from the date the ISP reported the problem
[19:30] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, on your router?
[19:30] <mneptok> dragon: next to impossible, if you want a warrantee that covers Ubuntu
[19:30] <FoolsRun> BoxMagnet: in Ubuntu
[19:30] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, or on ubuntu
[19:30] <tonyyarusso> FoolsRun: Should be in the form of auth.log.1, auth.log.2, etc., separated once per day.
[19:31] <FoolsRun> per-day, okay.
[19:31] <BoxMagnet> there ya go
[19:31] <tonyyarusso> FoolsRun: (You can set up different schemes if you wish for the future)
[19:31] <mneptok> dragon: if you install Ubuntu on a machine sold with Windows, 99% of OEMs immediately void your warrantee.
[19:31] <BoxMagnet> FoolsRun, if your wifi is compromised id seriously consider restricting based on mac address
[19:31] <FoolsRun> BoxMagnet: I'll check that next
[19:31] <Jordan_U> mneptok: Not the hardware warentee
[19:31] <tute> thanks bro ... i'm on it!
[19:32] <dayzmelttogether>  no mouse no keyboard, suddely stopped working after reboot, doesnt work with live cds unless i check all f6 options, works fine with windows dual boot, how to i reset whatever it is that halted those functions??....is there another place to ask this kind of question?
[19:32] <mneptok> Jordan_U: yes, the hardware warrantee, in many cases.
[19:32] <craigbass1976> Anyone?  I need to receive the faxes currently sitting on my "out of toner" printer and print them out somewhere else.
[19:32] <dragon> mneptok: That's something I don't want him to know.
[19:32] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: I'd also question that...  I've known Lenovo, IBM, Dell, and HP all to offer support after Ubuntu installation.
[19:32] <Aviram> hmm
[19:32] <mMezquitale> how can you tell what video care you have using the command line?
[19:32] <Aviram> How od I do physics with the avant?
[19:33] <mneptok> dragon: better to buy from a vendor that ships with Ubuntu (System76/Zareason/Dell) or build your own.
[19:33] <tonyyarusso> mMezquitale: lspci usually
[19:33] <pistyman> i am trying to make a virtual cd/dvd drive in ubuntu so i can get windows 7 (i cant live with ubuntu). I am trying to use this http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdemu/files/CDemu%20daemon/cdemu-daemon-1.2.0/cdemu-daemon-1.2.0.tar.bz2/download but i cant install it. i promise this will be my last request for help if it works ))
[19:33] <BoxMagnet> tonyyarusso, even dell!?
[19:33] <elops>
[19:33] <elops> !arabic
[19:33] <dayzmelttogether> !ask
[19:33] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: Dell will look up your service tag and only offer support if you are running the OS that shipped with the machine.
[19:33] <linux> knb
[19:33] <trism> pistyman: you'd probably have better luck with cdemu if you add the repo instead
[19:34] <dragon> !botabuse > elops
[19:34] <tonyyarusso> BoxMagnet: Yeah - my parents dual-boot on everything and they both have Dells.
[19:34] <pistyman> trism: assume i am retarded and need my hand held please
[19:34] <dayzmelttogether>  no mouse no keyboard, suddely stopped working after reboot, doesnt work with live cds unless i check all f6 options, works fine with windows dual boot, how to i reset whatever it is that halted those functions??
[19:34] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: How would they know if it wasn't a software problem?
[19:34] <BoxMagnet> tonyyarusso, glad to hear it, usually dell offers bad support to begin with.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> mneptok: Support is not the same as replacing the hardware under warentee
[19:34] <Aijse> ! karmic
[19:35] <Aijse> sweet almost!
[19:35] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: "Let's run the hardware diagnostic tools. Click the 'Start' menu and choose ...."
[19:35] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: eh, I just tell them we both know those steps are hooey anyway and get to the point :P
[19:35] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: yeah, good luck with that
[19:36] <dayzmelttogether> how do i reset xorg?
[19:36] <Mike_lifeguard> What is the first column in the output of ps aux? Probably either gid or uid right? All my processes have a number instead of a name O.o
[19:36] <BoxMagnet> dayzmelttogether, reset ?
[19:36] <MikeChelen> Mike_lifeguard: try using pgrep instead
[19:36] <BoxMagnet> dayzmelttogether, ctrl+alt+backspace may work depending on version
[19:37] <Jordan_U> mneptok: I've only encountered one person who claimed that using Linux voided my hardware warranty and that was an Apple store employee who was told by his manager that he was wrong
[19:37] <dayzmelttogether> well restore it i am not sue to its original, i cant get mouse and keyboard support maybe its xorg i also read to reset grub
[19:37] <trism> pistyman: on the packages page of the cdemu site there is a link to their ubuntu ppa repo, although launchpad seems to be dead at the moment, so I suppose it isn't very helpful
[19:37] <Mike_lifeguard> MikeChelen: Sorry if I'm not clear - I think my processes should have my username attached, not a number right? I seem to have done something wrong while changing my group membership or somesuch
[19:37] <BoxMagnet> Jordan_U, because it is software, not hardware.
[19:37] <pistyman> trism: thanks mate..
[19:38] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, no, that number is the process id number or PID
[19:38] <pistyman> i just want to know how to create that drive
[19:38] <Mike_lifeguard> BoxMagnet: No it isn't - otherwise I have many processes with numbers like 'www-data' and many processes all with the same pid :|
[19:39] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, no, process id number is different for each process.
[19:39] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, use top
[19:39] <bigl9er> Can anyone help me to get a microtouch touch screen working in Ubuntu? None of the guides work, this connects via PS/2 port
[19:39] <Mike_lifeguard> BoxMagnet: I just said that! It is the 'user' column that has a number instead of a name for all my processes
[19:39] <dpanda> planning to give ubuntu another full-time use chance. will get a new desktop cpu, not looking to spend a fortune, apart from regular computing i just need to run photoshop on xp on virtualbox on daily basic apart from gimp, so what standard processor+ram+motherboard combo will be sufficient? core2duo or dual core? intel motherboard/asus which in general has better compatibility with ubuntu
[19:39] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, oh really.....
[19:39] <Mike_lifeguard> BoxMagnet: nobody but you is talking about the pids
[19:39] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, ok ok hold on
[19:40] <MikeChelen> Mike_lifeguard: some processes can have a number like "1000"
[19:40] <MikeChelen> in the user column of ps aux
[19:41] <Mike_lifeguard> MikeChelen: Why would that be?
[19:41] <Aijse> Anybodu know it's gonna be possible to have Amarok 2.2 on ubuntu 9.04 or is it only for Karmic?
[19:41] <FoolsRun> Alright, I get some of this in auth.log:    root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=[my sudoers user] ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/port
[19:41] <k0rupted> hey, using the ecrypted home dir during the install... and user changed his password, and now can't login... anyone know how to change the passphrase?
[19:41] <trism> pistyman: are you sure you need cdemu to do this, what are you trying to do with the windows 7 iso?
[19:41] <tonyyarusso> dpanda: Honestly, probably anything on the market will be plenty sufficient for those needs.  Since you're considering virtualization and image editing, I'd be inclined to spend more on extra RAM at the expense of some CPU grunt if it comes down to that.  Searching Newegg reviews for "Ubuntu" and "Linux" is a good way to check compatibility for me.
[19:41] <MikeChelen> Mike_lifeguard: users can be referenced by their id number, dont think the system really cares which gets used
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Aijse: there's probably a ppa,  also #kubuntu is the KDE channel
[19:42] <BoxMagnet> sorry Mike_lifeguard was just trying to help :-(
[19:42] <pistyman> trism: i am trying tt install windows 7 but i dont have a dvd burner to burn it
[19:43] <trism> pistyman: you should just be about to mount it (mount -o loop windows_whatever.iso /mnt)
[19:43] <Aijse> sebsebseb, yes but i'm not gonna run it on kubuntu, it allreaady is possible to run it on kubuntu ... im interested in using 2.2 on ubuntu 9.04
[19:43] <Mike_lifeguard> BoxMagnet: It's no problem, I just don't want you going on a wild goose chase wasting your time answering a question I didn't ask :)
[19:43] <trism> pistyman: err, need a sudo in there first
[19:43] <dpanda> tonyyarusso: so say intel core2duo, compatible motherboard [will search as u said] and 4 gigs of ram should do me good?
[19:43] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, understood.
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Aijse: you can run KDE apps inside  Gnome/Ubuntu yes
[19:43] <goose> aaaaaaaah highlight Mike_lifeguard!! :p
[19:43] <tonyyarusso> dpanda: Sounds good to me.  (Better than anything I have...)
[19:43] <Mike_lifeguard> :OOO
[19:43] <Aijse> sebsebsen, no waaaaaaaaay
[19:43] <BoxMagnet> Mike_lifeguard, user id 1000 = the user logged on of im not mistaken
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !ppa > Aijse
[19:44] <pistyman> trism: so what do i type into that termninal? sudo mount -o loop windows_whatever.iso /mnt ?
[19:44] <trism> pistyman: although this won't really help you install it, but cdemu won't really either...
[19:44] <dpanda> tonyyarusso: ah people here are buying core i5 and core i7s like crazy :) and i am struck with a very incompatible old cheap celeron lenovo laptop
[19:45] <tonyyarusso> dpanda: I have a P4 on my most powerful machine :P
[19:45] <BoxMagnet> whats more important in the end, ram or processor speed?
[19:45] <snellcode> # of cores
[19:45] <pistyman> trism: so is there anyway to install windows without a dvd or USB?
[19:45] <BoxMagnet> ahh good call.
[19:45] <visbits> hi, im trying to run a service at startup but i need to run as a user not root.  Any ideas?
[19:46] <BoxMagnet> thats why my laptop is so much faster than my p4 desktop.
[19:46] <Slart> visbits: use sudo
[19:46] <daevski> Anyone know why my Remote Desktop (viewer) doesn't refresh when I open folders and click around? The mouse moves correctly, and the refresh rate for that seems okay, but it's not refreshing windows. I have to reconnect to see changes... :(
[19:46] <snellcode> it will be number of cores once parallel programming really takes off
[19:46] <visbits> slart how can i add a service to init.d and tell it to sudo another user?
[19:46] <BoxMagnet> ic
[19:46] <Slart> !boot | visbits
[19:46] <visbits> thanks
[19:46] <sebsebseb> 1windows |  pistyman
[19:46] <dpanda> tonyyarusso: hey running a lil bit old hardware is a challange actually, i live off coding on this celeron
[19:46] <Slart> visbits: do the rc.local thing
[19:46] <sebsebseb> !windows !  pistyman
[19:47] <duffydack> lol
[19:47] <BoxMagnet> visbits, /etc/rc.local runs commands as root.
[19:47] <sebsebseb> duffydack: I was to fast
[19:47] <visbits> Slart this is perfect
[19:47] <tonyyarusso> visbits: Another option is to put it in the user's crontab with @reboot as the time code.
[19:47] <sebsebseb> duffydack: so wrong keys
[19:47] <daevski> !windows | pistyman
[19:47] <duffydack> sebsebseb, my cp -av of the whole / to smaller hd worked btw...
[19:47] <BoxMagnet> tonyyarusso, isn't /etc/rc.local bad for network sensitive apps though. do to the timing of its running
[19:47] <visbits> what script runs at shutdown?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> duffydack: ok good
[19:48] <snowball_> MrDusty: sorry, i left for a bit
[19:48] <snowball_> MrDusty: are you going thru a router?
[19:48] <JuJuBee> I am ttying to install SmartBoard software on Ubuntu 64 Bit.  It requires autopackage, but I think autopackage is 32 bit?
[19:48] <dpanda> snellcode: hey remember yesterday u mentioned core i5, spent quite few hours checking prices, they are still quite costly here in india man
[19:49] <visbits> jujubee, try apt-get install autopackage.i386
[19:49] <visbits> or w/e instruction set it uses :)
[19:49] <snellcode> dpanda: but cheaper than i7
[19:49] <JuJuBee> visbits: couldn't find it
[19:49] <tonyyarusso> BoxMagnet: I have no idea.
[19:49] <dpanda> yes of course snellcodel
[19:50] <JuJuBee> visbits: in fact apt-cache search autopackage shows nothing.
[19:50] <arand> Is there a way to ignore the lease time using dhclient?
[19:50] <snellcode> dpanda: go amd then
[19:51] <dpanda> snellcode: thinking to settle with a core2duo
[19:51] <dpanda> c2d is so 2006 though :D
[19:52] <snellcode> dpanda: for a bit more $ you can get a lot more value with i5
[19:52] <elops> !survey
[19:52] <jode> how can I configure ubuntu to automatically login?
[19:52] <BlackFLAG> can anyone help me on adobe flash problems on ubuntu 9.04? i just downloaded it yesterday and i downloaded a plug-in for flash but the movies using flash dont play very well
[19:53] <trism> jode: System/ Administration/Login Window on the security tab
[19:53] <sebsebseb> jode: For security reasons that usaullly isn't the best idea
[19:53] <dpanda> snellcode: actually as they are pretty new around here, prices differ a lot [in india] & shipping from US is not practical :(
[19:53] <snowball_> BlackFLAG: what is your graphics card?
[19:53] <BlackFLAG> im not sure
[19:53] <trism> jode: I agree with sebsebseb, but if you still want to, that's how you do it
[19:54] <Slart> jode: there is an autologin option in system, administration, login window
[19:54] <snowball_> BlackFLAG: intel,ati,ndvia?
[19:54] <mMezquitale> anyone knows of a reputable online store to purchase toner??
[19:54] <BlackFLAG> ndvia i believe
[19:54] <Gent> What is a free  remote desktop manager that I can use with my black berry
[19:54] <Slart> mMezquitale: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:55] <mMezquitale> ok thanks
[19:58] <dimi3> Hello I'm trying enable audio capture in the recording tab for the audio manager, however everytime I open it again it is disabled.. Has someone experienced this?
[20:00] <daevski> Anyone know why my Remote Desktop (viewer) doesn't refresh when I open folders and click around? The mouse moves correctly, and the refresh rate for that seems okay, but it's not refreshing windows. I have to reconnect to see opened windows :(
[20:00] <BlackFLAG> snowball: how do i determine what graphics card i am using on ubuntu?
[20:00] <BoxMagnet> daevski, can you try using gtkvncviewer ?
[20:01] <daevski> BoxMagnet, I can one minute, please/
[20:02] <newubuntu> Need some help if anyone is available
[20:02] <snowball_> BlackFLAG: hmm, if you had intel i would suggest upgrading the kernel
[20:03] <hzlocky> Why apt-get propose me ruby1.8 instead of ruby 1.9.1?
[20:03] <BoxMagnet> hzlocky, apt does not always give the newest ver of a program, some times stability issues.
[20:04] <BoxMagnet> hzlocky, do they have a .deb on the site
[20:04] <hzlocky> 1.9.1 as marked as stable and recomended at http://ruby-lang.org
[20:04] <BoxMagnet> hzlocky, did you update?
[20:04] <hzlocky> instal
[20:05] <BoxMagnet> hzlocky, sudo apt-get update
[20:05] <ibrahim> install
[20:05] <iceroot> hzlocky: apt-get will never upgrade a version
[20:05] <iceroot> hzlocky: only security fix
[20:05] <BoxMagnet> iceroot, what!?
[20:05] <iceroot> hzlocky: or better, the main ubuntu-repos will never upgrade software
[20:05] <faryshta_> Hi, do you guys know a good debugger for c++?
[20:05] <estrella050900dn> hannah
[20:06] <hzlocky> faryshta_: Visual Studio 6.0
[20:06] <estrella050900dn> dayana
[20:07] <faryshta_> hzlocky, for linux please.
[20:07] <BoxMagnet> faryshta_, gcc
[20:07] <clearscreen> faryshta_: gdb
[20:07] <BoxMagnet> or is that a compiler
[20:07] <iceroot> faryshta_: #c++
[20:07] <daevski> BoxMagnet, Not hosted with VNC on the client PC, does that matter? I got connected but it's just a black screen with a mouse :-\
[20:07] <BoxMagnet> daevski, whats it hosted with?
[20:07] <daevski> BoxMagnet, gnome's built-in remote desktop options in preferences
[20:08] <OLD-MAN> hello
[20:08] <daevski> BoxMagnet, I thought it would work just as well. :-p
[20:08] <BoxMagnet> daevski, hmm, thats what i use with gtkvncviewer, works fine its a bit laggy
[20:08] <trism> daevski: that uses vnc
[20:08] <daevski> hmm
[20:08] <kakazza> Hi, how can I see the version of a package before I download it via aptitude?
[20:08] <iceroot> kakazza: apt-cache show packagename
[20:08] <iceroot> kakazza: also see apt-cache policy packagename
[20:08] <BoxMagnet> daevski, is this wifi?
[20:09] <trism> daevski: you could try xvnc4viewer, I use that fine with gnome remote desktop (using it right now)
[20:09] <daevski> BoxMagnet, no, both PC's are hard wired with ethernet.... is that what you mean?
[20:09] <daevski> trism, ty I will try it now
[20:09] <noren> hello all
[20:10] <OLD-MAN> hello noren
[20:10] <BoxMagnet> trism, hmm xvnc4viewer is nice.
[20:10] <noren> i have just migrated from kubuntu to ubuntu !! how to get a pure ubuntu install
[20:10] <BoxMagnet> !puregnome
[20:10] <iceroot> !puregnome | noren
[20:10] <kakazza> Thanks
[20:11] <kakazza> I take it, I can't turn my 32bit ubuntu into a 64bit ubuntu *fairly* easily?
[20:11] <kakazza> or, at all
[20:11] <iceroot> kakazza: no
[20:11] <noren> oh i have already got the ubuntu desktop and now want to remove any residual kde packages
[20:11] <iceroot> kakazza: you have to reinstall to go from 32bit to 64bit
[20:11] <kakazza> I see :/
[20:11] <iceroot> noren: then read the link ubottu gave you
[20:12] <noren> !puregnome
[20:12] <iceroot> noren: without the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <BoxMagnet> iceroot, can kakazza keep his .folders for settings?
[20:14] <noren> iceroot: i am trying to get the best performance out of my old laptop.. kde was not working properly it was too heavy
[20:14] <BoxMagnet> noren, xfce is nice...
[20:14] <iceroot> BoxMagnet: what?
[20:14] <BoxMagnet> iceroot, all the .folders in /home for settings
[20:14] <iceroot> noren: best performance with official ubuntu = xubuntu
[20:14] <noren> BoxMagnet: installing only xfce will do or i have to get the complete xubutnu-desktop
[20:15] <Hazelesque> if, for hysterical reasons, I am using a machine that is running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty
[20:15] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, xvnc4viewer is just black with mouse, also :(
[20:15] <Hazelesque> and I want to install MySQL 5.1 on it
[20:15] <iceroot> BoxMagnet: apt-get remove will imo keep these settings, only apt-get purge will kill them
[20:15] <Hazelesque> what is the best way?
[20:15] <BoxMagnet> iceroot, thanks, good to know
[20:15] <howeeell> i'm trying to: `cpufreq-info | grep "The" | echo ${0[2]}`
[20:15] <iceroot> Hazelesque: not using feisty
[20:15] <howeeell> what is the proper way to do that
[20:15] <trism> daevski: do you have it set up to require accepting the connection on the desktop first? mine comes up black until I click accept
[20:15] <howeeell> ?
[20:15] <BoxMagnet> daevski, ok, do you have xvnc4viewer open usin a terminal?
[20:15] <Hazelesque> (feisty, being The Ubuntu That Time Forgot, only has mysql 5.0.x)
[20:15] <iceroot> !eol | Hazelesque
[20:15] <noren> aah guys one more question
[20:16] <Hazelesque> iceroot: tell that to my department's sysadmins.
[20:16] <iceroot> Hazelesque: just tell them about security
[20:16] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, no request -- and I just found out gnome's RDV is also showing black screen lol... I am going to have them reboot.
[20:16] <noren> my old desktop i got the minimal ubuntu installation.. but cant get the graphical display started
[20:16] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, Thanks for thinking it through for me though.
[20:16] <Hazelesque> iceroot: I am presently trying to install mysql 5.1.39 from tarball, but I forgot how much of a pain mysql is to install when you have to do it manually ;P
[20:16] <trism> daevski: np, good luck
[20:16] <BoxMagnet> daevski, ok.
[20:16] <kp> Hello I have some few queries on ubuntu .....can some one help me
[20:17] <iceroot> Hazelesque: why need 5.1.x? and not 5.0.x?
[20:17] <noren> i am stuck at consle login only, any parameter i can fix at boot option
[20:17] <Hazelesque> iceroot: ISTR that 5.0.x doesn't have stored procedures?
[20:17] <iceroot> Hazelesque: sure it has
[20:17] <Hazelesque> oh? *checks*
[20:17] <sebsebseb> kp: Of course just ask
[20:17] <dragonkh> hi
[20:17] <iceroot> Hazelesque: 5.0.0 has stored procedures
[20:17] <trism> noren: do you have gdm installed?
[20:17] <dragonkh> does anyone know of software to manage my server and to manage virtual machines ?
[20:18] <iceroot> dragonkh: ssh?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> dragonkh: Virtualbox maybe,  VMware Server ?
[20:18] <Hazelesque> iceroot: ahh, my mistake, although I'm sure there are some features that don't work properly before 5.1
[20:18] <noren> trism: yes i have that but the graphical wont start only stuck at console
[20:18] <kp> I'm using fedora11, and I'm kind of getting bugged..... i want 2 know , how stable is ubuntu as anos
[20:18] <Hazelesque> but it appears that the department is using 5.0.22
[20:18] <Hazelesque> so I'll just see what version *is* in Feisty...
[20:18] <dragonkh> I want a web interface to configure my server and manage virtual machines
[20:18] <dragonkh> does such a thing exist even ?
[20:18] <iceroot> !info mysql-server feisty
[20:19] <kp> according 2 me, fedora11 is a piece of crap....
[20:19] <sebsebseb> kp: That depends on hardware and that,  not much point putting  9.04 on though when your running Fedora 11,  since  Ubuntu 9.10 comes out not tommorow, but the next Thursday.
[20:19] <elops> ok. i have a athelos 5212 wifi card. and it would not work. i do iwconfig and there it says wlan0 should it not be ath0 on athelos chipset?
[20:21] <elops> ok. i have a athelos 5212 wifi card. and it would not work. i do iwconfig and there it says wlan0 should it not be ath0 on athelos chipset?
[20:22] <ra21vi> how and what I should configure, since my Laptop HDD is getting hotter and hotter for no reason running Ubuntu...
[20:24] <BoxMagnet> ra21vi, its getting real hot, or the fan is just running constantly
[20:24] <kakazza> it's getting hot in here, I take off all my clothes
[20:25] <ra21vi> BoxMagnet: no, fan not running constantly...
[20:25] <kakazza> whoops
[20:25] <elops> in bt3 my card work and when i do "lspci" it come up as atheros 5212 and ath0 in "iwconfig" but in ubuntu it says atheros 5001x+ and wlan0? is there a way to force ubuntu to use right driver? i have used google for hours now and i dont find anything that help. probably bad to search
[20:25] <elops> help me pls
[20:25] <BoxMagnet> ra21vi, mine is doing it too. very hot.
[20:25] <kakazza> Are you sure you don't want to ask that in #remote-exploit elops?
[20:25] <ra21vi> BoxMagnet: only the area containing the HDD is getting too much hot, even I cannt comfortably rest my hands
[20:26] <elops> yea
[20:26] <BoxMagnet> ra21vi, mine too
[20:26] <elops> why?
[20:26] <ra21vi> BoxMagnet: search and digged Google, found many things , but could not get it working
[20:26] <BoxMagnet> ra21vi, the only thing i see is if ur fan runs constantly
[20:27] <rrreds> wireless device problems
[20:27] <ra21vi> BoxMagnet: no, fan is not running constantly, tht would mean I will have to look why my CPU is running with 100% thrust.
[20:28] <ra21vi> BoxMagnet: so did you find any solution for yourself.. i think i won't sustain this with such lots heat. That may damage my hardwares
[20:28] <BoxMagnet> ra21vi, no not yet.
[20:29] <snellcode> ra21vi: get ssd
[20:29] <BoxMagnet> ssd?
[20:29] <snellcode> solid state drive
[20:29] <BoxMagnet> whats that
[20:29] <ra21vi> snellcode: wow, god didn't made you doctor. I am thankful.
[20:30] <snellcode> BoxMagnet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive
[20:30] <ra21vi> snellcode: are you just like this by birth, or you practised a lot?
[20:30] <tpocra> How can I best make an ubuntu live CD from a .iso when I am running Debian?
[20:31] <BoxMagnet> snellcode, ok thanks for wasting my time
[20:31] <snellcode> np, i use ssd, works great for me
[20:31] <Lumag> Alguien de chile
[20:31] <Lumag> ?
[20:32] <david_j_r> Can someone spare a moment for a simple question from a first-time Ubuntu (would-be) user?
[20:32] <BlackFLAG> how do i access python on ubuntu?
[20:32] <trism> BlackFLAG: type in python at in the terminal
[20:32] <haximusprime> hey guys. can anyone tell me how to find the UUID of a cd rom drive?
[20:32] <cjones051073> run 'python' at the command line
[20:32] <haximusprime> blkid doesnt seem to apply to them
[20:33] <ra21vi> BlackFLAG: just open the termina, and write python..
[20:33] <aarkerio> david_j_r,    shoot!!
[20:33] <BlackFLAG> thanks
[20:33] <snellcode> ra21vi: did you not say your hdd was too hot?
[20:34] <xerox1> hi, i am trying to connect to an oracle database by using sqldeveloper: result -> error 17002; what's wrong?
[20:34] <david_j_r> @aarkerio - Thanks!
[20:34] <david_j_r> Simple question = have the 9.04 live disk, and want to install -- should I wait for the 9.10 release and just start there? or install 9.04 and then do the upgrade?
[20:34] <snellcode> ra21vi: cause ssd runs cool, so i dont know why you dismiss the option
[20:34] <stryda> hi
[20:34] <stryda> anyone here?
[20:34] <Snotty_> whats up? Are you happy to use Karmic Koala 9.10?
[20:34] <dAlfa89_> stryda, no, nobody's here
[20:35] <stryda> i downloaded ubuntu off the website for the x64 version right and i set it to install on wubi
[20:35] <stryda> and i came back and it was re-downloading it?
[20:35] <stryda> why is it doing that? :S i already have the .iso
[20:35] <trism> xerox1: http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_sql_developer_vendor_error_17002.htm perhaps
[20:35] <jkroon> hi guys, i've got an ubuntu install here (installed inside windows) that when it boots just gives me a blank screen (monitor complains about input not supported).
[20:35] <aarkerio> david_j_r,    well if you would asking me four or five months ago I would say 9.04, but we are a week from release so, Install 9.10
[20:36] <jkroon> where do i start looking?
[20:36] <stryda> i downloaded ubuntu off the website for the x64 version right and i set it to install on wubi, and now it's re-downloading it? why?
[20:36] <jkroon> and for that matter how, because no matter what option i select from the boot grub menu thinngy i get the same problem.
[20:36] <Snotty_> For me 9.10 Karmic Koala is the best OS ever
[20:36] <aarkerio> jkroon, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Snotty_: Wubi can go bad on people etc
[20:37] <xerox1> trism, thx, but i am on client side, not server side
[20:37] <david_j_r> aarkerio - that was my hunch, but wasn't sure.
[20:37] <jkroon> aarkerio, how do i get to it?
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Snotty_: and  the channel for it untill it's released is #ubuntu+1
[20:37] <jkroon> i can't do ctrl+alt+f[1-6], and ctrl+alt+kp[+-] doesn't seem to change res either.
[20:37] <david_j_r> I'm so looking forward to it! Ubuntu has definitely salvaged a machine for me. Wonderful stuff!
[20:37] <aarkerio> jkroon, can you  alt+ctrl+ f1 ?
[20:37] <jkroon> no.
[20:37] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, either of you still around?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> stryda: see above when I messaged  Snotty_ by mistake regarding Wubi
[20:38] <BoxMagnet> daevski, im here.
[20:38] <trism> daevski: any luck with vnc?
[20:38] <jkroon> but scroll-lock doesn't flicker, so i don't think it's a kernel panic.
[20:38] <[manas]> Jimmio,  alive?
[20:38] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, lol -- well I learned that only the user that I set the remote preferences on am I allowed to see the desktop. but all viewers fail to show menu or windows open
[20:39] <pfifo> Question, dose anyone have any experience with streaming rtmp, specifically livestream.com, I know i can get the webcam to stream, but I want to stream a file (pre-recorded stuff) or my desktop (or a portion of the desktop)
[20:39] <kenxx> can someone help me with dual booting?
[20:39] <aarkerio> david_j_r,    http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[20:39] <trism> daevski: yeah, with the gnome remote desktop, you can only access a logged in session...you'll need a different vnc server if you want to create new sessions
[20:39] <david_j_r> aarkerio - thanks! appreciate the help.
[20:39] <trism> daevski: I know that tightvnc will do this, but I was having problems with it so I switched to the gnome remote desktop
[20:40] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, There are like 3 users on that PC, so I would have to set the Remote Desktop options for all the users (or maybe as root) -- but no fix yet :(
[20:40] <kenxx> when you add windows to menu.lst for grub  what would /dev/sdb1  be for  hd#
[20:40] <BoxMagnet> daevski, or do what trism said
[20:40] <pfifo> (hd1,0)
[20:40] <aarkerio> kenxx, never ask if someone can help you, just say Hi! and type the question with relevant information
[20:40] <daevski> boxmagnet, trism, Thanks again. I'm done for today. I have bigger fish to fry :-p
[20:40] <kenxx> thats what i thought,   but it just says  "starting up..."
[20:40] <BoxMagnet> daevski, but i also had problems with tightvnc
[20:40] <kenxx> and sits there forever
[20:40] <kenxx> sorry aark
[20:40] <BoxMagnet> pfifo, try hd(0,0)
[20:41] <pfifo> kenxx, you have to use the 'chainloader' command from grub
[20:41] <BoxMagnet> pfifo, grub counts from 0 before grub2 was released
[20:41] <pfifo> BoxMagnet, he said sdb1
[20:41] <BoxMagnet> pfifo, trust me, i had this problem for like 5 hours once
[20:41] <kenxx> title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[20:41] <kenxx> root (hd1,0)
[20:41] <kenxx> savedefault
[20:41] <kenxx> makeactive
[20:41] <kenxx> chainloader +1
[20:41] <jkroon> ok, i'm going back to gentoo.
[20:41] <jkroon> less effort.
[20:41] <kenxx> is that right?
[20:41] <BoxMagnet> !pastebin > kenxx
[20:42] <daevski> Anyone know of a way for ubuntu to share the sound card? (I.E. Youtube + XMMS + Systems sounds all at same time)
[20:42] <aarkerio> jkroon, try debian without X system
[20:42] <MenZa> daevski: It should do that by default.
[20:42] <BoxMagnet> kenxx, try (hd0,0) if its the first hd,
[20:42] <MenZa> daevski: It doesn't play nice with, say, Skype though.
[20:42] <pfifo> kenxx, yes looks good, your sure its on the first partition of your second harddrive? (not second partition of only harddrive)
[20:42] <jkroon> aarkerio, pfft.  ok well.
[20:42] <kenxx> its on the second drive
[20:43] <kenxx> ubuntu on first then windows on second
[20:43] <daevski> Menza -- I've never had that luxury :(
[20:43] <BoxMagnet> kenxx, harddrive or partition
[20:43] <MenZa> daevski: Hmm, that's odd. :\
[20:43] <daevski> Menza: If anything is using sound, nothing else on my system can :(
[20:43] <kenxx> hard drive i have two
[20:43] <MenZa> daevski: Are you on Ubuntu 4.10 by chance? :p
[20:43] <BoxMagnet> daevski, are u using OSS instead of alsa?
[20:44] <MenZa> daevski: OSS, which has been deprecated for YEARS, only allows playback from one client at any given time. ALSA fixed that in, what, '04?
[20:44] <kenxx> sda1 , 2 and 5  are ubuntu ,   sdb1  is windows
[20:44] <Adam_eM> hi
[20:44] <Sandy80d> when I try to boot my ubuntu all I get is a blank screen with a mouse pointer, anyone available to help me troubleshoot?
[20:44] <daevski> Menza, BoxMagnet: I'm running 9.04 and asla is the default :-\
[20:45] <pfifo> kenxx, try to toggle the bootable flag on the dos partition, also you can try not using grub and booting from the MBR of the second drive via CMOS setup (or f11 key or whatever) I myself have found that winblows can be picky and wants to be installed on sda1, so thats where I always put it
[20:45] <BoxMagnet> kenxx, well you want to boot the ubuntu partition first, so grub loads, and then you can load windows or ubuntu from their
[20:45] <aarkerio> kenxx, try  :  rootnoverify	(hd1,3)
[20:46] <hwilde> what does it mean if system fails to boot and just says  GRUB loading, please wait...    then nothing happens?
[20:46] <Adam_eM> I need to set up freenx server, and I'm having problems since it doesn't authenticate the user. Maybe a kind administrator would help please?
[20:46] <BoxMagnet> this is why i use UUID
[20:46] <BoxMagnet> lol.
[20:46] <mgv1> can pidgin work with skype chat?
[20:46] <kenxx> i gott keep restarting ,,,  this is getting annoying as shit
[20:47] <kenxx> im bout too just forget it
[20:47] <d33d> mgv1, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think so - however you could always install skype
[20:47] <hwilde> what does it mean if system fails to boot and just says  GRUB loading, please wait...    then nothing happens?
[20:48] <kenxx> i like ubuntu  but  windows has more shit i need,  and there arent any open source software or payable software for it
[20:48] <jussi01> !language | kenxx
[20:48] <mgv1> d33d, ok
[20:48] <eject_ck> does anybody uses munin on ubuntu ?
[20:48] <aarkerio> kenxx, write in your blog your configuration, Is annoying if in six months the problem appears again
[20:48]  * d33d googles munin
[20:48] <jussi01> !anyone | eject_ck
[20:49] <hwilde> what does it mean if system fails to boot and just says  GRUB loading, please wait...    then nothing happens?
[20:49] <daevski> Ubuntu just froZE!!
[20:49] <Sandy80d> when I try to boot my ubuntu all I get is a blank screen with a mouse pointer, anyone available to help me troubleshoot?
[20:49] <eject_ck> I have annoying trouble what difficult to solve, no graphs building. I checked configs (both minun.conf and munin-node.conf) and see that both are correct but no graphy
[20:49] <eject_ck> graphs
[20:49] <eject_ck> empty html pages without graphs
[20:50] <daevski> BoxMagnet, MenZa: I'm back. Ubuntu froze... :-\
[20:50] <Tim> How can I open .pub files?
[20:50] <Tim> (Microsoft Publisher, I guess)
[20:50] <Jordan_U> hwilde: Has it always done this?
[20:50] <daevski> BoxMagnet, MenZa: But yeah... sound doesn't share, which I thought was aweful primative.
[20:50] <duffydack> Can I reload the /etc/hosts file without rebooting?
[20:51] <tonyyarusso> Tim: It may be different now, but the last time I checked the answer was "you don't".  :(
[20:51] <hwilde> Jordan_U, why doesn't it give an error or something?  I reinstalled grub from the livecd, I fixed the UUID, all the tricks I know
[20:51] <Tim> Oh :(
[20:51] <eject_ck> duffydack: you don`t need reload something
[20:51] <duffydack> like mount -a does for fstab..ugh
[20:51] <duffydack> oops
[20:51] <aarkerio> duffydack, try     sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:51] <[manas]> can anyone help me to configure virtual box so i  can connect iphone and upload music via itunes???????????
[20:51] <duffydack> I thought you had to for that file.. seems not
[20:51]  * duffydack hides head in shame
[20:52] <Jordan_U> hwilde: I don't know, you might try grub2
[20:52] <kenxx> rootnoverify (hd1,3)    No partition
[20:52] <kenxx> why is this so gay
[20:52] <trism> [manas]: you need to make sure you install the virtual box from the virtual box site, because the one in ubuntu doesn't have usb support
[20:52] <mneptok> kenxx: because you have a limited understanding of pejorative adjectives
[20:52] <Sandy80d> when I try to boot my ubuntu all I get is a blank screen with a mouse pointer
[20:53] <kenxx> well if  /dev/sdb1/   is  hd1,0    why would it not work
[20:53] <tpocra> kenxx: You may need to swap device mappings
[20:53] <tpocra> kenxx: because windows doesn't understand what it means to not be on the primary HDD
[20:53] <tpocra> Sometimes I've had to add the lines such as
[20:54] <trism> [manas]: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:54] <tpocra> map (hd0) (hd1)
[20:54] <tpocra> map (hd1) (hd0)
[20:54] <kenxx> and i put this where?
[20:54] <kenxx> in menu.lst
[20:54] <tpocra> to the relevant section in /boot/grub/menu.list
[20:54] <tpocra> lst
[20:54] <tpocra> Assuming you run GRUB legacy and not GRUB 2
[20:55] <kenxx> yeah  9.04
[20:55] <kenxx> has legacy right?
[20:55] <tpocra> kenxx: http://www.oculon.org/hijinx/linux/grub.htm
[20:55] <tpocra> I think so, I don't run Ubuntu.
[20:55] <naesojo> Olá pessoal, tudo bem, por aqui???
[20:56] <Klatuferatanektu> can the "ls -l" command print the permissions as octal values instead of printing them in the rwx------ form?
[20:56] <tpocra> I think 9.10 is the first version to default to GRUB2 though.
[20:56] <guntbert> Klatuferatanektu: try stat for the whole show
[20:56] <anndy> hi guys
[20:56]  * Polarina waits for GRUB3.
[20:56] <iceroot> Polarina: first grub2 would be nice
[20:56] <kenxx> yeah i downloaded the beta or 9.10  and  it find windows auto   but  it doesnt wanna boot too anything
[20:56] <iceroot> Polarina: what most call grub 2 is grub 1.9.x
[20:57] <Sandy80d> when I try to boot my ubuntu all I get is a blank screen with a mouse pointer
[20:57] <guntbert> !9.10 | kenxx
[20:57] <guntbert> Sandy80d: do you boot from HD or from CD?
[20:57] <Klatuferatanektu> guntbert, thx :)
[20:58] <guntbert> Klatuferatanektu: you are welcome :-)
[20:58] <Sandy80d> guntbert, HDD
[20:58] <[manas]> trism, i did i just need to configure it intall some packeges
[20:58] <naesojo> Alguem aqui fala português?
[20:58] <Sandy80d> guntbert, all I can do when I get to this blank screen is press ctrl-alt-F1
[20:58] <guntbert> Sandy80d: did you try "rescue system" (don't remember the exact name)
[20:58] <sebsebseb> !pt |  naesojo
[20:59] <Sandy80d> guntbert, yes and fsck still the same
[20:59] <naesojo> Obrigado!!!
[21:00] <guntbert> Sandy80d: when you boot into the rescue system - do you get a display there?
[21:00] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to make a launcher for a jsp file?
[21:00] <Sandy80d> yes
[21:01] <Sandy80d> guntbert, are you talking about the recovery mode you can select before grub loads, this is the one I mean
[21:01] <m0r0n> Why does my flash drive require root
[21:01] <daevski_> And now someone just threw the circuit breaker switch... what a day I'm having. :-p
[21:02] <digital-rouge> hey guys is there a program to password protect someoen form downloading stuff in vista?
[21:02] <kenxx> tproca    i think i got it  Thank you
[21:02] <guntbert> Sandy80d: "before grub loads"? what would that be? sorry...
[21:02] <[manas]> can anyone help me???
[21:02] <iceroot> digital-rouge: ##windows
[21:02] <kenxx> appreciate the help dude
[21:02] <digital-rouge> vista
[21:02] <iceroot> !ask | [manas]
[21:02] <m0r0n> digital-rouge:  type "/join #windows"
[21:03] <digital-rouge> ya my grandfather keeps downloading free shit and wonders where all the viruses and pop come form
[21:03] <digital-rouge> kool
[21:03] <Sandy80d> guntbert: after the bios screen there is a msg that says, grub loading, hit esc for options (and there you can choose recovery mode)
[21:03] <LewieP> hello
[21:03] <LewieP> Looking for some ubuntu help
[21:04] <n8tuser> !ask | LewieP
[21:04] <[manas]> can anyone help me which package i need to install to make virtual box support iphone??
[21:04] <scott_ino2> [manas], what do you mean by support iphone, it should work?
[21:04] <m0r0n> Why does my flash drive require root? It didn't before
[21:05] <guntbert> Sandy80d: of course :), I was slightly confused - I just booting a machine into that mode
[21:05] <scott_ino2> [manas], so long as it recognizes it things hsould work just like they do on windows