[00:00] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: to make that transparent? xfce4-terminal to launch it, right-click to prefs > appearance tab
[00:00] <daftykins> stuppy: so you type a username and then it stalls?
[00:01] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: No, the installation :p
[00:01] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[00:02] <kalekip1_> Oh, lol.. I should've just guessed it.
[00:02] <stuppy> no, I can login at the command prompt, but I can't get out of the lock screen in the session, no password dialog. And I don't wt to kill the sessionmid dist-upgrade.
[00:05] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Thanks. I'll just use xfce4-terminal :/
[00:05] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: And how can I set it as default? :P
[00:05] <da1ly> Hi there, when asked to download 32-bit development libraries, what packages is it asking me to install?
[00:07] <BetaSoul> How does one get ati fglrx and unity to play nice?
[00:07] <BetaSoul> in 13.10
[00:09] <wlightning-fuel> Is there a way to login as another user, but have their desktop show up in a window of the current user?
[00:09] <stuppy> @daftykins - nevermind. After about 45 minutes of non-reponse, it is now un-hung and letting me back in. Quick disable screen shutoff and curse my old computer; thanks for responding.
[00:09] <daftykins> stuppy: np :) good luck with it
[00:09] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: from terminal .. sudo update-alternatives –config x-terminal-emulator .. there's also a GUI app for this called galternatives
[00:10] <bekks> wlightning-fuel: nope, not without heavy duty. you could setup nxclient/nxserver, etc.
[00:10] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: depends on weather ATI still supports the card. ->lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga .
[00:11] <BetaSoul> Bashing-om: Mobility Radeon HD 5650.
[00:12] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Thanks again.
[00:12] <BetaSoul> Driver installed, and reads the correct card, but unity won't start
[00:12] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: just for fun and general fyi --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-use-xfce4-terminal-06x-as-drop.html to use drop-down functionality if you're so inclined :p
[00:13] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: you're welcome, that was quite the ordeal to get a transparent terminal emulator..
[00:14] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I have two problems. One problem I previously also had and another small problem. The small problem is that I want I-beam instead of the []. The greater problem is that many menu items are disabled for me.
[00:14] <kalekip1_> (Unless I open a program with root ofcourse)
[00:15] <kalekip1_> I'm an admin... :/
[00:15] <Minnen> im looking for a good alternative to devede, faster and with better quality output, if anyone has a good recommendation it would be appreciatted
[00:15] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: afraid i don't know about I-beam .. disabled menu items hmm, in unity?
[00:16] <bekks> Whats "I-beam", and "[]"?
[00:16] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Yes. (I-beam is the "|" instead of the squary thing)
[00:16] <kalekip1_> Not sure how to explain it. You also see that in the chat here.
[00:16] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: that much i get, the beaming part escapes me :p
[00:17] <kalekip1_> that's what it's called (I guess)
[00:17] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: Not sure at all, yuk, see : http://askubuntu.com/questions/387969/graphics-card-driver-issues-ati-radeon-hd-4200 - last paragraph. Still I be looking.
[00:18] <BetaSoul> Bashing-om: Looks like I need the beta driver, hoever, I can't remove the one that's already installed.
[00:20] <kalekip1_> Also, what's wrong with this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyxpcgsyow6utwu/Ubuntu%20-%20users%20bug.png ?
[00:23] <wlightning-fuel> bekks, hmm.. did figure it out eventually.. aparently all you have to do is dm-tool add-nested-seat
[00:23] <wlightning-fuel> (with Xephyr installed)
[00:27] <nigel> Hi, Im having issues with ubuntu 12.04LTS & want to try a fresh reinstall after backing my data up, whats the easiest way to do this?
[00:27] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: never saw that effect before, looks like it might be a theme issue .. do you see it when you change themes?
[00:27] <bekks> nigel: Insert the installation medium, install.
[00:27] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I never changed my theme.
[00:27] <nigel> bekks: ok, so it will re-write everything?
[00:27] <Buryo> can you install linux ubuntu on a virtual machine like oracle?
[00:28] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I have 2 apps though: Ubuntu Tweak and Unity Tweak Tool
[00:28] <bekks> nigel: Of course. You said "after backing up..." - so I have to assume you already cretaed a full backup.
[00:29] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: i see, that's the default Adwaita theme indeed .. just wondered if you notice any change when changing temporarily
[00:29] <nigel> ok thanks for your help :)
[00:30] <Tuck_C_Dough> NO MOUSE CURSOR in 12.04 lts. tried to install  on a very old single processor computer, an ASUS K8V mb. There is no pointer, just a semi transparent box that disappears on a black background or an all white background.
[00:30] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Ambiance :p No, it didn't fix it.
[00:30] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: are you running a vanilla ubuntu or added some gnome related PPA's perhaps?
[00:31] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: just guessing here though
[00:31] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: I think I did. Can I see a list somewhere?
[00:32] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: run .. software-properties-gtk and check the 'software tab'
[00:32] <bmccoy11> Sup
[00:33] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Yes, I have a few. Can I safely uncheck them all?
[00:33] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: there's a better way to purge PPA's, unchecking there will not purge any packages installed from them
[00:33] <glitsj16> !ppa-purge | kalekip1_
[00:34] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: It's so late now. :P
[00:34] <laila> hello, I just installed amd's fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates from apt, but I cant's see the catalyst control panel anywhere, nor I think is the binary in /usr/bin
[00:34] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: that might explain the earlier trouble with gnome-terminal now i think of it
[00:34] <kalekip1_> Crap.
[00:35] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: no need to do it now, just so you know where to start looking for answers
[00:35] <kalekip1_> There is also something wrong with my internet :/
[00:35] <kalekip1_> I can't download packages and can't surf on the internet. I can stream a video and chat though
[00:35] <kalekip1_> very weird
[00:35] <glitsj16> bad day at the office all together ..
[00:36] <snoopy> Hello, does anybody know have to install Java on Virtualbox running Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:36] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Well, I'm at home :p
[00:36] <kalekip1_> glitsj16: Hopefully a reboot will fix SOMEthing.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> BetaSoul: Looking about, seems that the ATI card is no longer supported by (AMD), as to reemoving the current driver(s), -integrated- I do not know. Others will have to advise - so you can go to the open source driver that does support that card.
[00:37] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: not a bad idea, seems you have a few things confused
[00:37] <kalekip1_> I´m heading off now. It´s getting late. Good night.
[00:37] <sh0t> kalekip1_, are u sure
[00:37] <glitsj16> kalekip1_: likewise and goodluck
[00:37] <sh0t> u have nwo proxy server set?
[00:37] <SailorRealitty> d035 kn0w1ng 4 |07 4b0u7 Ubun7u bu7 n07h1ng 3|53 m4k3 y0u 4 n00b 0r |337?
[00:37] <sh0t> which is no working
[00:37] <kalekip1_> sh0t: I didn't touch anything  :S
[00:38] <kalekip1_> I'll look at it tomorrow. It's almost 2 o'clock.
[00:38] <sh0t> yeah
[00:38] <sh0t> good night
[00:38] <Tuck_C_Dough> oi sailormoon... easy on the elite speek
[00:39] <snoopy> I generally only speak English
[00:40] <SailorRealitty> h3y pr0gr4mm3r_
[00:40] <SailorRealitty> _pr0gr4mm3r d0 y0u 5p34k |337
[00:41] <dupingping86> Hi new world!
[00:42] <dupingping86> Now Mir steel being developed?
[00:42] <somsip> !mir | dupingping86
[00:43] <dupingping86> somsip: mir
[00:43] <dupingping86> about mir?
[00:43] <dupingping86> I wish to join to develop mir!
[00:43] <somsip> dupingping86: follow the link to launchpad then
[00:44] <dupingping86> I super python developer!
[00:45] <foobar1009> How do I install PHP 3.5.8 on Ubuntu?
[00:45] <foobar1009> It has to be that specific version of PHP
[00:45] <aouldr78> Hi everyone :)
[00:46] <somsip> foobar1009: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:47] <foobar1009> somsip, 12.10
[00:47] <somsip> !info php5 quantal
[00:47] <somsip> foobar1009: and you *really* want 3.5.8???
[00:47] <aouldr78> What is the best configuration management software for linux like Microsoft SCCM?
[00:47] <foobar1009> somsip, I thas to be 3.5.8 because the server that I am writing code for runs that version
[00:48] <foobar1009> Why they are using such an old version of PHP I dont know
[00:48] <somsip> foobar1009: *3*.5.8? That's evil. I'd suggest setting up a VM for that, but where you get a version that old, I have no idea
[00:48] <foobar1009> somsip, I guess I'll just ask them to make me a shell account on the server so I can develop for it
[00:51] <aouldr78> I heard of Ubuntu Landscape and Red Hat Satellite but these software aren't free!
[00:52] <nicknicknick> Hello.
[00:52] <xip> Hey guys, my friend just got a new laptop with windows pre-installed. ASUS G750jx-T4035H (ROG) and I want to install Ubuntu on it, as a seperate partition. I figured it should be rather easy, but the installation doesn't even recognize that there is Windows installed on the machine?
[00:53] <nicknicknick> I need some help. I am unable to login graphically
[00:53] <dupingping86> xip: details
[00:53] <dupingping86> ?
[00:53] <Logan_> dupingping86: /join #ubuntu-mir
[00:53] <dupingping86> ok Logan
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> xip have you got the live cd loaded now on the laptop?
[00:54] <xip> No, but I can do that. Could you help me out?
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> xip yup
[00:55] <xip> Alright just a moment then I'll boot it up
[00:55] <aouldr78> XIP: most new laptops come with windows 8 and windows 8 uses EFI to lock the HDD so you need to start the BIO and change the setting to legacy boot so ubuntu can recognize the HDD
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> xip load the live cdand pop into "try ubuntu"
[00:56] <Minnen> GIMP is worst than just bad
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> aouldr78: thats completely wrong
[00:57] <xip> Sorry, the model is ASUS G750JW-T4030H. Well I'm waiting for the Live CD to run.. just a moment
[00:57] <aouldr78> :) that what I had to do to install Ubuntu. I know Ubuntu now supports UEFI but it needs to shutdown Windows 8 properly to be able to partition the HDD
[00:58] <te> Minnen: So, what is wrong with gimp?
[00:58] <Minnen> idk, honestly im just mad cuz i feel it makes the simplest tasks complicated
[00:59] <lazyPower> Minnen, thats not an uncommon opinion. I know many people who say the same.
[00:59] <foobar1009> somsip, is it bad if someone is using php 3.5.8 by the way?
[00:59] <somsip> foobar1009: how old id that now?
[01:00] <somsip> *is
[01:00] <foobar1009> 4-5 years old now
[01:00] <lazyPower> somsip, its been depreciated.
[01:00] <nicknicknick> I am having issues loggin in. I am unable to login normally, nor able to use 'startx' (which stops loading after a while.)
[01:00] <somsip> lazyPower: I know that....
[01:00] <somsip> foobar1009: yeah - horribly out of date
[01:00] <lazyPower> well that means its no longer receiving security updates. That should be #1 why they should update.
[01:00] <foobar1009> oh okay then, the people im dealing with are very incompetent then
[01:00] <somsip> foobar1009: they need to review their servers for sure
[01:00] <foobar1009> They showed me some of their code and like half of the lines used eval statements
[01:01] <foobar1009> for no apparent reason
[01:01] <lazyPower> oh, i targeted the wrong person, sorry somsip
[01:01] <somsip> lazyPower: np :)
[01:01]  * lazyPower goes back to minding his own business
[01:01] <xip> hitsujiTMO: Alright so I have the Live CD running on the laptop. So what to do from here pal?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> xip sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:02] <te> Minnen: Image Minuplation applications are very complicated programs, they have *many* functions, sometimes it is hard to wade through so many options to get to what you want to do.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> xip: sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit && dmesg | grep efi | pastebinit
[01:03] <shinobi_one> using software raid 1, will the bootsector only be written to the primary drive?
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> xip those 2 commands there should produce 2 urls. can you paste both urls here
[01:04] <xip> hitsujiTMO: It seems to be still loading, I'll return in a moment
[01:04] <nicknicknick> I am having issues loggin in. I am unable to login normally, nor able to use 'startx' (which stops loading after a while.)
[01:05] <aouldr78> nicknick: restart the computer and while starting press Esc or Shift to get to the boot grub. When you get to the option to choose which kernel, the press letter (e) to edit the kernel grub, then add 1 or single to the line where the linux start to boot in single mode. then change your password and type reboot.
[01:05] <aouldr78> You can also press Ctrl + Alt + F1  to F6 to start another terminal
[01:05] <nicknicknick> I know.
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: what exactly do you mean by: " unable to login normall"
[01:05] <nicknicknick> *normally.
[01:05] <nicknicknick> As in using lightdm instead of terinal
[01:06] <nicknicknick> *terminal
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> nicknicknick: but what exactly happens? do you get back to lightdm?
[01:06] <m1dnight> are there any C programmers here?
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> m1dnight: ##c
[01:06] <m1dnight> orly onw
[01:06] <m1dnight> thnx :)
[01:10] <xip> How do I write | in the terminal?
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> xip its a character on your keyboard. what keyboard layout do you use?
[01:10] <xip> Swedish layout, when I try to make the combination it just flips through to my previous command
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> xip: did you set the keyboard layout in the live session? it defaults to us otherwise
[01:12] <xip> When running Live CD it was not possible to choose
[01:13] <shinobi_one> anyone have or know of an example where i can copy the bootsector on a software raid 1 to the second drive to be able to boot from it incase of drive1 failure?
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> xip: in the system tray of the 13.10 you can change it there. else in System Settings -> Text Entry
[01:13] <grendal_prime> has anyone here had any luck setting up an ldap server (especially with gosa)?
[01:14] <dupingping86> hello
[01:14] <dupingping86> world
[01:14] <dupingping86> What ABI of mir?
[01:14] <dupingping86> What ABI in mir project?
[01:15] <somsip> dupingping86: stop asking this question. You've been told where to go by different people
[01:16] <dupingping86> somsip: why?
[01:16] <somsip> dupingping86: join #ubuntu-mir or follow the links shown below
[01:16] <somsip> !mir | dupingping86
[01:16] <dupingping86> what !mir
[01:17] <dupingping86> what !mir somsip
[01:17] <grendal_prime> hmmm...guess not
[01:17] <hd> I want to find all the characters after "ab", and I did this: echo "ababb" | grep -oh "ab." However, the answer was only aba, I expect aba and abb. What's wrong with this?
[01:17] <somsip> hd: use a regex
[01:18] <hd> somsip: what do you mean?
[01:18] <somsip> hd: oh, hang on. No. er....
[01:18] <dupingping86> somsip: ! = not ?
[01:19] <dupingping86> your mean is "not mir"?
[01:19] <somsip> !ot | dupingping86
[01:19] <dupingping86> correct?
[01:19] <dupingping86> somsip: correct?
[01:20] <dupingping86> I like correct!
[01:20] <gopi> hi any one can help me?
[01:20] <dupingping86> ok
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> hd: you'd ave to use awk. grep doesn't support groups
[01:20] <dupingping86> gopi: any problems
[01:20] <gopi> i would like to download dependency package of libxss1.tar.gz
[01:21] <gopi> where i will download this?
[01:21] <hd> hitsujiTMO: ohh, I see. Do you know anything about python regex? I'm horrible in awk
[01:21] <dupingping86> please wait a minute
[01:21] <gopi> ya sure...
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> hd: match = re.search(r'ab(.*)$', str); print(match.group(1))
[01:23] <dupingping86> gopi:
[01:24] <xip> hitsujiTMO: I sent you the pastebins
[01:24] <dupingping86> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss_1.2.2.orig.tar.gz
[01:24] <gopi> ya, where will i download this?
[01:24] <dupingping86> gopi: have you skype id?
[01:24] <dupingping86> I send you through skype
[01:24] <gopi> i didnt installed skype in my machine..
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> gopi:  libxss1.tar.gz is a tar archive not a package. where did you get the archive from?
[01:25] <gopi> i want to install libxss1 package from tar.gz
[01:25] <dupingping86> hmm
[01:25] <gopi> yes i want that tar archive
[01:26] <dupingping86> gopi: follow url: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss_1.2.2.orig.tar.gz
[01:26] <dupingping86> enter your url location bar:
[01:26] <dupingping86> gopi: ok?
[01:27] <gopi> is this support all distributions or only for debian based distros?
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:28] <dupingping86> gopi: this is not only for debian!
[01:28] <gopi> ok.... i'll try to install and tell you the result...
[01:29] <gopi> it shows the following error " No package 'scrnsaverproto' found"
[01:30] <hd> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[01:30] <gopi> while am compiling that source packages, it shows that error
[01:30] <gopi> what will i do
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:31] <dupingping86> show me error
[01:31] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[01:31] <gopi> this is the output of your command
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: libxss1 is in the repos. install it from there
[01:32] <Braden`> Hello.  If I have ssh in a root jail, is there a way to make it so that if the user who logs in via the jail can execute a script that will affect something outside of the jail?
[01:32] <dupingping86> gopi: before build
[01:32] <Braden`> I want them to be able to restart a process, but not browse the who file system
[01:32] <Braden`> whole
[01:32] <hd> hitsujiTMO: this time it gave me "abb". I want both "aba" and "abb"
[01:32] <dupingping86> apt-get build-dep libxss1
[01:32] <dupingping86> enter the command: "apt-get build-dep libxss1"
[01:33] <dupingping86> gopi: enter the command: "apt-get build-dep libxss1"
[01:33] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: i saw already it is in repos... but i'm making small application...  for that i need the tar archive
[01:33] <gopi> dupingping86: trying now
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: are you modifying libxss1 ?
[01:35] <gopi> no no... i'm not modifying libxss1... i'm just trying to install it from tar archive instead of using from repos
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: if you're not modifying then installing from therepo is exactly the same. You are probably looking for the dev headers: libxss-dev
[01:36] <gopi> dupingping86: its done now after build the dependency packages for it
[01:37] <dupingping86> show debian folder
[01:37] <dupingping86> exists?
[01:37] <dupingping86> enter the command : "debian/rules build" or "debian/rules build-arch"
[01:37] <dupingping86> gopi:
[01:37] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: i'm just trying to install it as offline... because my friends are not having internet  connections
[01:38] <gopi> dupingping86: i'm using ubuntu.... which folder i want to show?
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: the get the .deb from the apt-archive /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:39] <dupingping86> extract tarball and enter this folder
[01:39] <Darjusz> well
[01:39] <gopi> dupingping86: aclocal.m4    config.status  include     Makefile.am  stamp-h1
[01:39] <gopi> ChangeLog     config.sub     INSTALL     Makefile.in  xscrnsaver.pc
[01:39] <gopi> config.guess  configure      install-sh  man          xscrnsaver.pc.in
[01:39] <gopi> config.h      configure.ac   libtool     missing
[01:39] <gopi> config.h.in   COPYING        ltmain.sh   README
[01:39] <gopi> config.log    depcomp        Makefile    src
[01:39] <FloodBot1> gopi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <dupingping86> gopi: ok
[01:40] <dupingping86> ./configure
[01:40] <gopi> dupingping86: done ... thank you
[01:40] <hesiodo> hi
[01:40] <hesiodo> and bye
[01:41] <gopi> hitsujiTM0: thank you,,, done this
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> gopi: you can also pull the .deb directly from the repo http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxss/libxss1_1.2.2-1_amd64.deb
[01:46] <gopi> is there any way to get the all dependency library packages at one place?
[01:46] <Jabo> Sometimes I think it would be pretty cool to get involved in the GNU project
[01:46] <Jabo> contributing code
[01:47] <Jabo> how could one do this?
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> !away | sailor|shower
[01:48] <somsip> !contribute | Jabo
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> ubottu broken?
[01:48] <somsip> hitsujiTMO: very slow at least...
[01:48] <somsip> Jabo: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.…teToUbuntu
[01:49] <Jabo> yeah, that's Ubuntu
[01:49] <somsip> Jabo: this is ubuntu support
[01:49] <Jabo> ok
[01:52] <BrianAllred> So, I'm having issues where GUI programs won't ask for my sudo password. This is causing issues for example in Software Center. It can't authorize itself to install anything. I can run "sudo software-center" from terminal, but this seems like a temporary workaround at best. Any advice?
[01:57] <kraut1> i accidentally delete a ppa in my sources list and not sure which one i removed.  trying to install subversion and i receive this dependency error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841320/       thanks.....
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> kraut1: apt-cache policy libsvn1
[02:01]  * treeclimber likes irssi
[02:01] <kraut1> thanks hitsujiTMO  :      http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841326/
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> kraut1: that looks to be this ppa https://launchpad.net/~dirk-computer42/+archive/c42-edge
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | this is how to correctly remove ppas
[02:04] <kraut1> k
[02:04] <kraut1> thanks
[02:05] <kraut1> updating....
[02:07] <kraut1> whoa... after adding that ppa i got a pop up from   apt-get update   asking for a partial upgrade....
[02:10] <axsuul> Hi, I'm having trouble telnetting to external mailservers on port 25, i.e. telnet a.mx.mail.yahoo.com 25
[02:10] <axsuul> times out
[02:10] <axsuul> How would I diagnose this?
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> axsuul: port 25 is blocked by most ISPs
[02:11] <axsuul> oh i see
[02:12] <BetaSoul> I have an unsupported ATI card in my laptop. I however, have a supported integrated INtel gPU as well. How do I turn the ATI card off so its stops eating power?
[02:12] <somsip> axsuul: how is this an ubuntu support issue?
[02:13] <b0x> betasoul: have the same issue but with nvidia
[02:13] <b0x> try the bios
[02:13] <axsuul> somsip: thought it was a firewall issue
[02:13] <axsuul> somsip: something related to iptables maybe?
[02:14] <A3679> So for the life of me i can't seem to get my bluetooth headset working
[02:14] <A3679> It pairs and connects but i can't get any audio to come out of it
[02:14] <somsip> axsuul: turn it off, try it again. If there are still problems, it's not you. Try 587 or....463 is it?
[02:14] <kraut1> i must have removed other ppa's (ahhhhh!!!)    when i do a sudo apt-get update i am getting a partial upgrade message and some of the software i have install would be removed if i do the partial upgrade
[02:15] <somsip> *465
[02:15] <kraut1> any way i can see what the sources.list file was from a day ago ??
[02:17] <BetaSoul> b0x: Eating power?
[02:24] <FreewheelinFrank> On startup I always get 'system error' message, when I select 'report' it asks for password. is this normal?
[02:29] <OerHeks> FreewheelinFrank, sure, so "we" cannot retrieve system info without your aproval
[02:31] <qar> q
[02:31] <jcabb> Hi. 12.04(64bit).  I have two HDDs(1 SSD for OS and 1 SATA for storage)My PC crashed and grub said it couldn't find the SATA volume.  So I booted without it.  Here is a pic of what I am up against.  http://imgur.com/FCXYp2T  How can I get this volume back in action?  Thanks!
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Ahoy.
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Let's try that again.
[02:37] <Arufonsu> Hey guys.
[02:37] <jcabb> Hi
[02:39] <Arufonsu> So, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10, and I just installed util-linux 2.24.1. When I run unshare --user, I get "unshare: unshare failed: Invalid argument". When I run "strace unshare --user", I see that the unshare() system call is returning EINVAL.
[02:40] <Arufonsu> Is there any way to tell why that is?
[02:43] <Arufonsu> One possibility, I suppose, is that the kernel I have doesn't support CLONE_NEWUSER, but that doesn't seem to make sense, since the kernel is 3.11.0-12-generic, and kernel version 3.11.0 definitely has CLONE_NEWUSER. Is there a way to tell if 3.11.0-12-generic is missing it?
[02:43] <jcabb> Hi. 12.04(64bit).  I have two HDDs(1 SSD for OS and 1 SATA for storage)My PC crashed and grub said it couldn't find the SATA volume.  So I booted without it.  Here is a pic of what I am up against.  http://imgur.com/FCXYp2T  How can I get this volume back in action?  Thanks!
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> jcabb: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: man unshare    shows no option --user and requires an argument program
[02:47] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: do you have an older version of util-linux than 2.24.1?
[02:47] <jcabb> hitsujiTMO, hang on. :)
[02:48] <Arufonsu> Anyway, if I run "unshare --user /bin/bash", I still get the same error.
[02:48] <jcabb> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/CxxDfysc
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: i have 2.20 from the repo. anything outside the repo is unsupported here
[02:49]  * Arufonsu nods.
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: can you pastebin: man unshare
[02:51] <Arufonsu> Yeah, figured I'd ask here because it seems like a problem with the kernel, and it's an Ubuntu kernel. But yeah, lemme paste that real quick.
[02:52] <jcabb> Arufonsu, any ideas?
[02:52] <Arufonsu> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841510/
[02:53] <Arufonsu> jcabb: nope, sorry.
[02:53] <jcabb> ok
[02:53] <thejayhallway> What's up?
[02:55] <te> Arufonsu: http://linux.die.net/man/2/unshare
[02:56] <dupingping86> hello!
[02:56] <dupingping86> how to get ubuntu drivers of all printers.
[02:56] <te> dupingping86: Install cups?
[02:57] <dupingping86> yes
[02:57] <dupingping86> te: yes
[02:57] <te> cups | dupingping86
[02:58] <dupingping86> hearing yours
[02:58] <Arufonsu> te: hm, yup. According to that, an invalid flag was specified.
[02:58] <te> !cups | dupingping86
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: ok. that does in fact seem to be the correct usage. It could be the case that the ubuntu kernel is compiled without a necessary param.
[02:59] <dupingping86> te: not cups?
[02:59] <mani2399> exit
[02:59] <texla> dupingping86, what printer
[02:59] <te> dupingping86: Not sure what your question is....
[02:59] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: yeah, that would make sense. Do you know how I might be able to find out whether my kernel supports this flag?
[03:00] <te> dupingping86: What exactly are you trying to do?  Configure a printer?
[03:00] <te> dupingping86: firefox localhost:631
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: i'm unsure to be honest. I don't play with such low level stuff too often
[03:02] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: *nod* Thanks for your help.
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: you could try installing a minline kernel
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> mainline*
[03:03] <Arufonsu> Yeah, that's an idea.
[03:07] <Braden> Hello.  If I have ssh in a root jail, is there a way to make it so that if the user who logs in via the jail can execute a script that will affect something outside of the jail?
[03:07] <Braden> I want them to be able to restart a process, but not browse the whole file system
[03:08] <hamilcar> d:)
[03:08] <te> Braden: "root jail"?
[03:08] <Braden`> Well, a jail for ssh
[03:09] <Braden`> They don't have root exactly
[03:09] <te> Braden`: It all depends on how you write the script.
[03:09] <te> Braden`: and who the user is.
[03:09] <Braden`> te:  How would I write the script so that only it can break the jail.
[03:10] <Braden`> The user is Bob

[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> Braden`: while this may not be the best method, you could monitor a fifo in the jail and restart the process upon a psecific message in the fifo
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> s/psecific/specific
[03:12] <Arufonsu> Wait, could the user in the jail just send a signal to the process directly?
[03:14] <Arufonsu> All right, where does the kernel source go when I apt-get source it...
[03:15] <Arufonsu> In the current directory?
[03:15] <OerHeks> Arufonsu, usually in /usr/src
[03:16] <Arufonsu> I mean, I definitely see a directory called linux-3.11.0 in the current directory, and I definitely wouldn't normally expect it to be there.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: apt-get source goes to pwd. apt-get install linux-source goes to /usr/src
[03:16] <Arufonsu> hitsujiTMO: *nod*
[03:17] <fer755> Arufonsu : find / | grep kernel
[03:17] <Arufonsu> Woulda been nice if I'd known that before I installed the Linux source into some random directory.
[03:17] <nick_h> how is it possible that `date` says the hour is 22, but the latest line in /var/log/syslog says the hour is 23?
[03:17] <Arufonsu> Funny enough, the current directory was another copy of the Linux source. So now I have a source tree inside another source tree.
[03:17] <nick_h> Jan 29 23:23:26 app01 rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock lost 17 messages from pid 11516 due to rate-limiting
[03:17] <nick_h> Wed Jan 29 22:23:39 EST 2014
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: sourception
[03:18] <Arufonsu> "sudo rm -r linux*" is kind of a scary-looking command.
[03:19] <Arufonsu> Oh, look at this: "Picking 'linux' as source package instead of 'linux-image-3.11.0-12-generic'" Is that going to give me the right thing?
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: yup
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> Arufonsu: many packages are compile from the same collective source
[03:22] <Arufonsu> Whelp, the source I just downloaded clearly shows CLONE_NEWUSER as a valid flag.
[03:22] <Arufonsu> I don't suppose it's possible that CLONE_NEWUSER has a different value between my kernel and util-linux?
[03:23] <Tom1> hello
[03:25] <Arufonsu> Ahhhh, here's something.
[03:26] <Arufonsu> static inline int unshare_userns(unsigned long unshare_flags, struct cred **new_cred) { if (unshare_flags & CLONE_NEWUSER) return -EINVAL; return 0; }
[03:26] <Arufonsu> Like, yup. That'll do it.
[03:27] <Arufonsu> But, uh, that definition is in the mainline kernel's user_namespace.h as well. How does that not break user namespaces in the mainline kernel?
[03:31] <Arufonsu> I guess it must be because fork.c doesn't include user_namespace.h.
[03:32] <tacomaster> I am having a really strange issue with my internet. I have an intel centrino 1030n and it was working fine in ubuntu before and my most recent os debain stable it actually was alot faster than the connection i got with ubuntu, but i missed the gaming and better graphic performance in ubuntu. I have tested with a few other machines and it is not the internet, but when i say try to ping a server i get the ip address really fast but when
[03:35] <reindeer> Hey,  just came to check if wikipedia.org is "down" for someone else? I checked few "down-or-not" websites and they say its just me, which i do belive, but traceroute6 says network unreachable and firefox says the IP is banned..lol , this is in Finland..
[03:35] <onizu> hi
[03:36] <Arufonsu> reindeer: fi.wikipedia.org is up for me.
[03:36] <onizu> how can i install this on 13.10 : http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/owncloud-client
[03:36] <onizu> ?
[03:36] <Arufonsu> onizu: have you tried sudo apt-get install owncloud-client?
[03:37] <reindeer> Arufonsu: hmm well thats odd.. maybe its justmy ISP
[03:37] <onizu> yeah, that installs a lower version (1.4. ) i want 1.5
[03:37] <sadpestilence> hi
[03:37] <onizu> which is available in trusty
[03:37] <sadpestilence> someone can helpme to do a nat connection to gain internet on my other pc?
[03:38] <K`zan> Anyone know what would cause / how to fix this when trying to attach a file in Firefox?  No luck at all from google.  Issue is: The specified folder does not exist or was not readable. - OK that and you get the dialog in kfile but it apparently is broken at that point, any selected file never gets passed back to Firefox.  Any thoughts very much appreciated!!
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:desktop&package=owncloud-client
[03:39] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, that didn't work for me. I got some error at the end..
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: what was the error?
[03:40] <onizu> hmm, don't remember. i can retry if you want
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: do
[03:40] <onizu> but wouldn't it be better to use ubuntu's repository that opensuse's ?
[03:40] <glitsj16> K`zan: 'attach a file in Firefox' .. can you elaborate on what you mean exactly?
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: no, since the version you want is not in the repo.
[03:41] <onizu> it says on the page that it is 1.5
[03:41] <onizu> Source Package: owncloud-client (1.5.0+dfsg-4ubuntu1) [universe]
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: thats the trust repo. different repo. thats early beta
[03:42] <onizu> yeah
[03:42] <onizu> ok, i'm going to retry the opensuse one
[03:42] <dupingping86> please help me
[03:42] <rww> !info owncloud-client
[03:44] <Arufonsu> Aha, I think I've totally found the solution to everything. Yeah, the Ubuntu kernel has user namespaces disabled by default. It also has XFS support enabled by default. In order for user namespaces to be enabled, XFS support must *not* be enabled.
[03:44] <Arufonsu> So I'll just change this, recompile, reinstall...
[03:44] <onizu> 1.3 ... :(
[03:48] <somsip> dupingping86: what is your problem now?
[03:49] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, it installed this time..
[03:49] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, but it doesn't run when i try: owncloud-cloud
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Onia
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> o.O
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> ownlcloud-client maybe?
[03:50] <onizu> oh sorry, that's what i tried, owncloud-client
[03:50] <onizu> sudo apt-get install owncloud-client
[03:50] <onizu> oops
[03:50] <onizu> owncloud-client: command not found
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: and it's not in the dash?
[03:51] <onizu> oh, it is there
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: the clound binary may just be under a different name
[03:52] <onizu> hmm..
[03:53] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, do you use owncloud-client?
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: i used to. not atm.
[03:53] <onizu> ok
[03:54] <onizu> it doesn't show me which file it is synchronising at the moment
[03:57] <tacomaster> When you go to sites like pandora, youtube, and a few other's and it asks you if you want to install a plugin i guess for faster access and it makes a tile in the hud, what is this really doing? Its not just a link to a website is it does it serve a real purpose to install?
[03:58] <onizu> i gotta go..
[04:07] <aneks> does anyone know if Windows 7 home basic can share files within a home network? I can see the Windows 7 home basic PC on my  Ubuntu machine but can't access it, yet I can access my Ubuntu share from my Windows 7 PC?
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> aneks: make sure the everybody/everyone or what ever it's called group is added to the permissions of the share
[04:09] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 gnome fallback/flashback de ... firefox looses it's window title bar a few times a day ... only happened since 13.10 ... i can't seem to identify what's causing it, not reproducible ... is it a common problem ? if not i'll ask in #firefox ?
[04:09] <nitk> what is this error....arpspoof: libnet_init(): UID or EUID of 0 required
[04:10] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Have you been tweaking compiz?
[04:10] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Er, have you addded compiz to the fallback might be a better question?
[04:10] <SchrodingersScat> nitk: isn't 0 == root?
[04:10] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: only one compiz tweak ... i turned the Grid option off
[04:11] <rww> SchrodingersScat: yes
[04:11] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: yes i've added the ccsm
[04:11] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, This is in the fallback correct, I believe the fallback does not use compiz natively, not sure what the window manager is there.
[04:12] <nitk> SchrodingersScat, sorry what are u saying
[04:12] <SchrodingersScat> nitk: it might want a sudo in front of that? that's my first guess.
[04:13] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: yeah i'm using fallback, however i think it's also now called flashback ?
[04:13] <EnriqueFabuloso> Hello everyone, I have a question about ubuntu partition recovery. Where is the best channel to ask my question?
[04:13] <nitk> SchrodingersScat, ok thank u
[04:14] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Yes the name has changed not sure what it is in 13.10, in the gnome shell the window manager is mutter, I would find out what it is stock for that fallback, I suspect adding compiz may be the root of your issue, just a guess though.
[04:15] <EnriqueFabuloso> EnriqueFabuloso is not my real name by the way.
[04:16] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, When I used unity and was a full time tweak with the cube, and wobbly windows there was a window header issue, but this is a while back.
[04:17] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: ok compiz has been the source of many such problems in the past ... hey thanks for the input there ... i'll approach the problem from that perspective then
[04:17] <johnboy> ok im brand new at this
[04:17] <johnboy> have now clue how all this works
[04:19] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, The gnome shell has a restart for the de 'alt-f2-r' it might work in the fallback, or they may be another, best of luck. ;)
[04:19] <Beldar> there*
[04:19] <whitenoise> hey guys, are there certain packages for adding symbols back into PHP and/or Apache binaries so we can gdb coredumps from Apache using mod_php...the regular packages seem to have the symbols stripped out of the binaries.
[04:20] <jeffrey_f> EnriqueFabuloso: Post the problem, what you know and/or have done so far
[04:20] <whitenoise> which makes me unable to use gdb unless I want to recompile both from source.
[04:20] <johnboy> if anyone has the time and is willing to work with me i'm trying to get used to the linux system just need help learning this stuff
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | johnboy
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> I have dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu 13.10 and they are on separate partitions and I have a third partition called 'Storage'. Storage won't mount in windows or ubuntu.
[04:21] <whitenoise> what filesystem type is it?
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> n tfs
[04:21] <Beldar> johnboy, It takes awhile, it did me anyway, open source is where I started my computer use, ask questions as needed, the ubuntu forums is an excellent source as well as askubuntu.
[04:21] <EnriqueFabuloso> ntfs
[04:21] <johnboy> hitsujiTMO thank u
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: what errror do you get when you try to mount it?
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Error mounting /dev/sda4 at /media/usernan/Storage: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda4" "/media/usernan/Storage"' exited with non-zero exit status 18: Failed to open ntfs attribute: No such file or directory
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Failed to load $MFT: No such file or directory
[04:22] <EnriqueFabuloso> Failed to mount '/dev/sda4': No such file or directory
[04:22] <whitenoise> looks like the ntfs isn't your problem.
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: no $MFT is pretty bad.
[04:23] <EnriqueFabuloso> lol
[04:23] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: as an afterthought ... all i have to do to restore the window title bar is, click on it's tab in the bottom panel to minimize it ... then click on it's tab again to maximize it ... the title bar is restored when i maximize it ... like it just needed to be redrawn
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> i ran gdisk and this is the output
[04:24] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, Heh, sounds like voodoo.
[04:24] <Tex_Nick> Beldar: hey thanks for your input !!!
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.7
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> Type device filename, or press <Enter> to exit: /dev/sda4
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso> Partition table scan:
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   MBR: MBR only
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   BSD: not present
[04:24] <FloodBot1> EnriqueFabuloso: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <EnriqueFabuloso>   APM: not present
[04:24] <Beldar> Tex_Nick, No problem.
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: gdisk doesn't even look at the partition
[04:25] <Beldar> !pastebin | EnriqueFabuloso
[04:25] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Quit flooding.
[04:25] <whitenoise> EnriqueFabuloso: use pastie/pastebin/something...also, try a: sudo fdisk -l and show the output of that.
[04:25] <johnboy> ok Beldar thanks yeah i tired it once on redhat but couldnt figure it out but i started with windows and learned alot on their but i always had an intrest in linux from working in dos a little but still formatting to this now
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: you should create an image of the partition and work on that. have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[04:25] <johnboy> its a whole new world in here
[04:25] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Does the mount point really exist?
[04:26] <whitenoise> anyone for Ubuntu binaries that have symbols still compiled in in PHP/Apache? or am I out of luck and would have to compile from source?
[04:26] <subhojit777> There is a remote server (VPN), yesterday I was configuring ports and did some mistake. Today I am trying to do ssh login to remote server and it says `connection timed out`. I am beginner in networking, and I was trying things. Is there any way I can login other than ssh. I am stuck now. Please help
[04:26] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Do you have an entry in fstab?
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: from the windows side of things, i've had good results from Active@ Partition Recovery
[04:27] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841824/
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: its clearly a corrupt filesystem
[04:30] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: How do I check to see if the mount point exists?
[04:30] <whitenoise> you just did verify that /dev/sda4 exists.
[04:30] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: ls
[04:30] <whitenoise> with your paste
[04:30] <whitenoise> so yeah, there's just something wrong where your filesystem can't see it, looks like.
[04:31] <vfw> whitenoise: That's not the mount point, (it's the divice)
[04:31] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: Can you clarify 'entry in fstab'?
[04:31] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO: $40 bucks is a lot of money...
[04:32] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Looks as if you are using /media/usernan/Storage as a mount point?  See if it exists...
[04:32] <EnriqueFabuloso> vfw: How do I do that?
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: check the first link i gave for free tools within linux.
[04:32] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: Show us what you are doing, pastebin it.
[04:33] <whitenoise> sudo mkdir -p /media/usernan/Storage && mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs
[04:33] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure what he's doing, (or trying to do).
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: the error was: Failed to load $MFT: No such file or directory          <- cannot read master file table      clearly an issue with the file system itself
[04:33] <whitenoise> ^ will create it if it doesn't exist then try to mount it
[04:33] <whitenoise> hitsujiTMO: I think you are correct as well, I guess he's just trying to eliminate everything else
[04:35] <EnriqueFabuloso> mount: only root can do that
[04:35] <whitenoise> slap a sudo in front of it
[04:35] <whitenoise> sudo X && sudo Y
[04:35] <EnriqueFabuloso> I did
[04:36] <EnriqueFabuloso> sudo mkdir -p /media/usernan/Storage && mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs
[04:36] <Random832> xdg-open does not respect my browser setting in lubuntu
[04:36] <Random832> and xdg-settings seems generally clueless about how to set it
[04:36] <whitenoise> yeah, put another sudo after the &&
[04:36] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: So, "/media/usernan/Storage" was just hypothetical?
[04:37] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[04:37] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841848/
[04:38] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: mount /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage -t ntfs | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: if it was an issue with the mount point the error would have been: mount: mount point /media/usernan/Storage does not exist
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> If I am not mistaken, the permissions on the folder that will be mounted over needs to be correct or access will be limited
[04:38] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841851/
[04:39] <whitenoise> EnriqueFabuloso: were you resizing the partitions or anything like that where you could have potentially messed up some data?
[04:40] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841862/
[04:41] <jeffrey_f> put    sudo    at the beginning of the command
[04:41] <EnriqueFabuloso> No resizing just transferring data
[04:41] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: You are correct, It appears to be filesystem error.
[04:41] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda4 /media/usernan/Storage
[04:42] <whitenoise> Ben64: that has already been done
[04:42] <Ben64> a similar thing has been done, yes
[04:42] <EnriqueFabuloso> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841868/
[04:43] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: ls -l /dev/sda4
[04:43] <EnriqueFabuloso> Ben64:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841871/
[04:44] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO: How do I fix the file system?
[04:44] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: hitsujiTMO "exFAT"
[04:45] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: use windows
[04:45] <whitenoise> here's a thread concerning this:
[04:45] <whitenoise> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1339017
[04:45] <whitenoise> where someone damaged an NTFS partition
[04:46] <whitenoise> also this
[04:46] <whitenoise> http://askubuntu.com/questions/339708/unable-to-mount-windows-partition-after-resize
[04:46] <whitenoise> lots of googling for cannot find $MFT
[04:47] <EnriqueFabuloso> I booted to windows right clicked the partition and trued to scan for errors but it returned and error.
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you start with: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[04:48] <EnriqueFabuloso> The $MFT is the Master File Table metafile for an NTFS file system. It keeps a record of all the files in the volume.
[04:49] <Ben64> EnriqueFabuloso: you should ask in ##windows about repairing that partition
[04:50] <jeffrey_f> Repairing windows volume may make Ubuntu unbootable.  Windows does not play well with any other OS's on dual boot for some reason
[04:50] <hypercube32> people still use dual boot...?  why?
[04:51] <hypercube32> use virtualization already damn
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> !behelpful | hypercube32
[04:51] <EnriqueFabuloso> Is virtualization better?
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[04:51] <EnriqueFabuloso> I don't want this problem again
[04:51] <hypercube32> EnriqueFabuloso, it has its uses
[04:52] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:Iran the command but I don't know what it does?
[04:52] <hypercube32> EnriqueFabuloso, what most people that i know do now, is use linux as the base system of their computer, and run windows in a virtual machine
[04:52] <hypercube32> dual boot is very difficult these days in comparison
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: can you paste the url it generates here please
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: want soo see if there's issues with the drive itself
[04:53] <EnriqueFabuloso> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841889/
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> s/soo/to
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: looks ok at least
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: and: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[04:55] <miguelangello> im having problems trying to open some websites and doing searches on google
[04:56] <vfw> EnriqueFabuloso: http://askubuntu.com/questions/370398/how-to-get-exfat-working-in-ubuntu-13-10
[04:57] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841928/
[04:57] <miguelangello> im having problems trying to open some websites and doing searches on google  on ubuntu 12.05 LTS
[04:57] <vfw> miguelangello: Can you be more specific?
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: ok, the hdd itself looks fine at least
[04:58] <abadr> I just brought up a new Ubuntu VM. Trying to `apt-get update`, but it gets stuck trying to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com. I have no problem pinging that host from the same VM. What could be wrong?
[04:59] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: May be that he needs to install exfat support?
[04:59] <miguelangello> vfw,  ok well the problem is that if i try to do a search on google the page keeps loading and dont answer i dont have this problem on windows
[04:59] <vfw> miguelangello: What nameserver are you using?
[05:00] <miguelangello> vfw,  what do u mean with nameserver ?
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: the file system itself is ntfs
[05:00] <miguelangello> vfw,  dns ?
[05:00] <vfw> miguelangello: Check your network configuration.
[05:00] <vfw> miguelangello: Yes
[05:00] <miguelangello> i have google dns
[05:00] <miguelangello> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: ntfs-3g wouldn't have tried to mount it as it would have had the wrong signature if it was exfat
[05:01] <vfw> miguelangello: host av.com | pastebinit
[05:01] <fmedina> hello
[05:01] <fmedina> how do I know how long since my linux laptop woke up from suspend?
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: do you have a drive with more than 100gb free space?
[05:02] <vfw> hitsujiTMO: Well, fdisk reports "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT"
[05:02] <miguelangello> vfw,  wait insalling pastebinit
[05:02] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:yes I have an external hd usb
[05:03] <miguelangello> vfw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841942/
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: yes. thats because the partition is of type 7: which is used for those partitions
[05:03] <K`zan> glitsj16: Sorry for delay, putting my patient to bed.  On a particular forum, one has the option of attaching a file, click on "browse" button, the message "The specified folder does not exist or was not readable." appears.  Click "OK" and the "File upload" dialog appears and you can select a file, Click "open", dialog closes, but file never shows up in the browser field for the file name selected.
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> vfw: fdisk itself doesn't read the partition. just looks at the table
[05:05] <vfw> miguelangello: Well, looks like you are resolving domain names all right. Hummm.... not sure
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> EnriqueFabuloso: best thing to do is to image the drive to a file then work on recover on that file, or a copy of it. that way more damage won't be caused and will maximise your chances of recovery
[05:05] <K`zan> glitsj16: Only thing I found using google to search, was from 2005 and no help at all.
[05:05] <miguelangello> vfw,  i know that isnt the problem like i said pages keep loading and sometimes load good
[05:05] <vfw> miguelangello: What other problems do you have?  Any other websites you are unable to go to?
[05:06] <miguelangello> vfw,  i cant log into hotmail
[05:06] <glitsj16> K`zan: are you seeing this oddity on firefox?
[05:06] <vfw> miguelangello: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf #Send url
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> miguelangello: have you setup a proxy within the browser?
[05:07] <vfw> miguelangello: Yea, look at firefox preferences for proxy setting.
[05:07] <miguelangello> vfw, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6841967/
[05:07] <K`zan> glitsj16: Yes, that is the only place it has shown up.  Found nothing in FF config that would affect it...
[05:08] <vfw> miguelangello: I see nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>  (not <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:09] <glitsj16> K`zan: i don't know if it would make a difference, but in about:config there's a key called "ui.allow_platform_file_picker", try setting that to true
[05:09] <EnriqueFabuloso> hitsujiTMO:okay I'll check out the links and try work it out thanks
[05:09] <EnriqueFabuloso> thanks everyone
[05:09] <K`zan> glitsj16: Will give that a go, thank you Sir!
[05:10] <Fishscene> Is anyone else having issues with the ubuntu one client on Windows 8.1?
[05:11] <Fishscene> I get "sorry, an error has occurred..." Details: TypeError Required argument 'Type' (pos 2) not found
[05:12] <K`zan> glitsj16: It was set to true.  Just for jollies, set it to false and it now works :-).
[05:12] <glitsj16> :)
[05:13] <K`zan> glitsj16: LOL, never a dull moment in this busines :-) :-) :-), Much appreciated Sir, you got me where I needed to be!  Thanks!!!!!!!
[05:14] <glitsj16> K`zan: very welcome, enjoy attaching files again
[05:14] <josh____> hey... I have an issue now, I just installed 13.04 server since 13.10 doesn't install with a USB keyboard. I ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y , and now my keyboard input is really messed up. what i see on screen isn't what I typed. I have to hold down a key to get a character to appear once on screen, but then the server sees it as some weird mashup of a few letters I typed. Working on console right now (no SSH yet)
[05:15] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | josh____
[05:15] <K`zan> glitsj16: Wilco Sir, will certainly simplify a number of things!
[05:15] <josh____> Riight.  I'm stuck now.
[05:15] <Beldar> josh____, Please be careful with language here. ;)
[05:15] <josh____> can't install a later version with USB KB because someone left out a driver. great.
[05:16] <miguelangello> vfw,  if i do ping to www.google.com from terminal it resolves
[05:16] <josh____> sorry, I'm just upset that I reformatted and now can't do anything.
[05:16] <Beldar> josh____, It happens, no biggie.
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: can you boot the desktop iso and i can talk you thru a debootstrap install
[05:16] <IdleOne> josh____: follow the eolupgrade link the bot gave you
[05:17] <glitsj16> K`zan: i had to do the opposite thing years ago in firefox (still using that profile heh) .. so i think it is actually the native setup that confuses things i believe, but i'm not familiar with kfile
[05:17] <josh____> sure... I'll download the ISO real quick on my other computer (mac doesn't have optical drive now...)
[05:19] <josh____> Beldar: to clarify, you want me to download the 13.10 desktop image?
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that was me, but yes the desktop 13.10
[05:19] <vfw> miguelangello: Try editing /etc/resolv.conf and add nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:19] <josh____> okay.
[05:20] <josh____> I just looked at the first name I saw that tagged me.
[05:20] <somsip> miguelangello: just check that /etc/resolv.conf doesn't have that warning at the top:  DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[05:21] <miguelangello> vfw,  how could i do it?
[05:24] <vfw> gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  and add the line to the end of the file, (on a line by itslef nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:24] <golfinho_333> Hello. : ) Anyone is having troubles in apache php?
[05:24] <somsip> golfinho_333: what's the real issue?
[05:26] <golfinho_333> somsip well... i install but... the phpinfo and other php commands are only working in /var/www when i use localhost/~username it dont execute the phpinfo and other php commands
[05:26] <somsip> golfinho_333: you understand that doesn't work out as standard. You have to setup other things. Have you dont that?
[05:26] <Beldar> josh____, I suggested nothing, I have not followed your issues.
[05:26] <vfw> miguelangello: Let us know if that makes a difference...
[05:27] <golfinho_333> somsip what other things i need to configure i follow the tuturials...  the localhost/~username is working for apache but not to php... only in /var/www is working php
[05:29] <somsip> golfinho_333: possible solutions: http://is.gd/qW7zmD http://is.gd/xxSqA5 http://is.gd/ooEK2e
[05:29] <josh____> Beldar: right, I should've tagged someone else but only saw your name on screen ;)
[05:30] <miguelangello> vfw,  it is the same hotmail keeps loading after give email and password
[05:30] <Beldar> josh____, Heh, and after I posted I saw that hitsujiTMO cleared that up, I will say they are one of the better helpers all around.
[05:30] <golfinho_333> s0msip thanks gona try... it never happens beford... since i use ubuntu strange
[05:30] <vfw> golfinho_333: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Checking_Apache_2_installation
[05:30] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: haven't done this (or had to, rather) before. what exactly does debootstrapping the install do?
[05:31] <vfw> miguelangello: run firefox from terminal and watch for errors.
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: consider it a manual install. no "installer" to guide you thru it
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: ty :P
[05:32] <mojtaba> Hi, My laptop just suddenly shutdown and now I can not login. Does anybody know what should I do?
[05:32] <mojtaba> Please help
[05:33] <vfw> mojtaba: What were you doing when it shut down?
[05:33] <Beldar> mojtaba, Over heating?
[05:33] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh lovely... Popping the disk in right now, and as a note, it seems like the power button press is not causing a halt like it did before my format.
[05:33] <mojtaba> vfw: Beldar: Yes
[05:33] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks : )
[05:34] <Beldar> mojtaba, Okay, have you tried to remedy this so far?
[05:34] <mojtaba> Beldar: What should I do? My HDD goes bad because of this and I am going to change it, but I am not sure, if the new disk be safe. :(
[05:35] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: Where were you using the laptop before it shutdown?
[05:35] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: What do you mean? The fan was not blocked.
[05:36] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: I ask, using on bedding et al?
[05:36] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: No, on the table.
[05:36] <Beldar> mojtaba, I bought a gaming cooling pad for my laptop in-spite of it not really getting to hot, and made sure the lm-sensors where accurate, and blew out the fans. If you do not find a fix your asking for continued trouble really.
[05:36] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: got the disk in and booted
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. first question. uefi or mbr install?
[05:37] <mojtaba> Beldar: I have an extra fan, but it is not enough some times.
[05:37] <josh____> MBR
[05:37] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do now?
[05:37] <mojtaba> I can login to tty1, but not in GUI
[05:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's an old desktop repurposed :). MBR.
[05:38] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. pop open the terminal and: sudo apt-get install debootstrap pastebinit
[05:38] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: are you in a cold climate? bring it outside to cool down.  should only take a few minutes.  It should turn back on once cooled.  Check to see if the fan is running
[05:38] <Beldar> mojtaba, A fan may not, I noticed the gaming pad cooler was more robust is all, my computer runs 10 degrees Fahrenheit at the least cooler.
[05:39] <Beldar> a=any*
[05:39] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: The fan is running. I waited for it to cool down.
[05:39] <mojtaba> What should I do now to be able to log in back again?
[05:39] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: errrr... just realized I don't have a mouse connected.....
[05:39] <mojtaba> I am using another computer to find the answer to this problem.
[05:39] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: got canned air?  blow out the vents
[05:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ctrl + alt + t to open the terminal :P
[05:40] <artie_> mojtaba I just had the same problem in my laptop, a Dell. Temp indicators said it was running very hot. I cleaned the input screen, but no difference. Finally, I had to take it apart and totally remove the heatsink for the cpu. It' was plugged solid with dust.
[05:40] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I will fix the heat issue, the problem is now I can NOT login.
[05:40] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba:  what error are you getting (if any)
[05:40] <mojtaba> artie_:I have Dell too
[05:40] <Beldar> mojtaba, Hard shutdowns can brick your OS, just a heads up.
[05:40] <artie_> mojtaba after the clean out, it ran 40 degrees cooler!!!!
[05:41] <vfw> !password | mojtaba
[05:41] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:after entering the password, it just shows the welcome screen with no error and asking again for password!
[05:41] <xdreaper15> olah
[05:41] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: not if you're trapped in the Welcome window
[05:41] <xdreaper15> hola
[05:41] <mojtaba> artie_: The disassembly is a real headache.
[05:41] <xdreaper15> wtev
[05:42] <xdreaper15> sup
[05:42] <vfw> mojtaba: As hitsujiTMO suggests, try Ctrl-Alt-F6  and try logging in from a console screen.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ahh
[05:42] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: does it go right back to login screen?
[05:42] <mojtaba> vfw: I can login via tty1, but I can not login via GUI
[05:42] <xdreaper15> i have a question...has anybody had any success in getting League of Legends to work in ubuntu?
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: tab to the relevent buttons
[05:42] <josh____> vfw: thanks... on console now
[05:42] <Beldar> xdreaper15, The channel does not support polling.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo apt-get install debootstrap pastebinit
[05:43] <mojtaba> vfw: What should I do after login to tty6?
[05:43] <artie_> mojtaba Yes, it is not easy to take it apart....my laptop was an older model and is considerably easier to get to the inside of it.....my daughters new Dell laptop is almost impossible to take apart!!! NOT GOOD.
[05:43] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: What should I do after login to tty6? I can not login to GUI
[05:43] <vfw> mojtaba: If you have trouble loging in, it will be a problem with credentials
[05:43] <golfinho_333> vfw nathing that dont work...
[05:43] <Beldar> xdreaper15, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=League+of+Legends
[05:44] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: err, no idea. i'm helping someone else atm
[05:44] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba:  rm /home/YourUserID/.ICEauthority  then try to log back in
[05:44] <mojtaba> vfw: what should I do then?
[05:44] <xdreaper15> ahh beldar you rock
[05:44] <xdreaper15> thanks a ton
[05:44] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:I will try that.
[05:44] <Beldar> xdreaper15, No problem, now you have another resource. ;)
[05:44] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: dpkg returned 1, /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[05:45] <xdreaper15> sorry to be a nuisance >.<
[05:45] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: give it a second and try again
[05:45] <Beldar> no biggie
[05:45] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:Can I rename that?
[05:45] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: same output
[05:46] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: you can if you want.
[05:46] <artie_> mojtaba I sincerely hope you don't have a newer Dell.....and that you don't have to take it apart.....but, if you do have to do it, be sure to get some decent quality heatsink compound for it. Arctic Silver is pretty hard to beat::>
[05:46] <vfw> golfinho_333: What error are you getting?
[05:47] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:It says, can not do that, read only file system
[05:47] <vfw> mojtaba: sudo
[05:47] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo?
[05:47] <golfinho_333> vfw no error... php5 is enabled everything is working... the problem is that the phpinfo is only working in /var/www and not in /localhost/~username
[05:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. try once more again
[05:47] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: even with sudo -s
[05:48] <vfw> golfinho_333: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/06/monitoring-system-resources-on-ubuntu-server-with-phpsysinfo.html
[05:48] <nearst> hello good people
[05:48] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: same again...
[05:48] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:48] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: delete it.  It gets created if it isn't there.  Happened to me a few times and deleting it had no ill-effects
[05:48] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks :)
[05:49] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:ok, let me do that
[05:49] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:it does not allow me to remove it. same error message!
[05:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: debconf-c root 4uW REG 0,16<PHONE_NUMBER>6 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[05:50] <artie_> I have a problem with usb 3 flash drives.....I bought 3 different models locally, but none of them accept an ext3 or ext4 format......do all usb 3 flash drives limit the formatting that can be done externally???? All of them had fat32 formatting when I bought them.
[05:50] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:even I can not change its permission to 777
[05:50] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I am root at the moment
[05:50] <mojtaba> That is very odd!!
[05:50] <vfw> mojtaba: df
[05:51] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: also noted that it may be incomplete due to it being a temp fs
[05:51] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo enter-chroot rm /home/MYUSERNAME/.ICEauthority
[05:51] <mojtaba> what is chroot?
[05:51] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I type whoami, and it says, root
[05:51] <mojtaba> then rm ./.ICEauthority
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: can you try jump back to tty7 and see if you can tab to "try ubuntu"
[05:52] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: It says, read only
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: i'm wondering if its that menu is locking the file
[05:52] <mojtaba> vfw: what is df?
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: What is the user name?
[05:52] <mojtaba> root
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: no it's not.  What is your user name?
[05:52] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: didn't know about the changing tty shortcut. back to desktop now
[05:52] <mojtaba> whoami > root
[05:52] <mojtaba> mojtaba
[05:52] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. try open a terminal there with: ctrl + alt + t
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: What directories are in /home/ ?
[05:53] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[05:53] <mojtaba> vfw: shoot, my bad.
[05:53] <mojtaba> let me check that
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: What user is having trouble logging in?
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> josh____:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit debootstrap
[05:53] <vfw> mojtaba: (If you do not know your user name, that is the problem.)
[05:54] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: exit from root
[05:54] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no wall of errors, looks good
[05:54] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: just a moment.
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit
[05:54] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home/   #Tell us what it says.
[05:55] <vfw> mojtaba: ls /home/ | pastebinit #Send URL
[05:55] <mojtaba> I just cd /home/mojtaba
[05:55] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842125/
[05:55] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: vfw: after cd /home/mojtaba && rm .ICEauthority, same error message
[05:55] <vfw> mojtaba: Type exit, hit enter.  Login as mojtaba
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: so sda1 was / and sda5 is /home ?
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: I did that
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: what next?
[05:56] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: should be, no other OSes on the drive.
[05:56] <vfw> So you are able to login ok as mojtaba ?
[05:56] <mojtaba> vfw: ye
[05:56] <mojtaba> s
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ahh waid you had /dev/sda1 as /boot ?
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what layout do you want or does it matter?
[05:57] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's the ubuntu encrypted LVM default
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: are you sure you want encrypted for a server?
[05:57] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -l .ICEauthority  #Tell us what it says.
[05:57] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ehhh, true... I'll save that for my other box.
[05:58] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -l ~/.ICEauthority  #Tell us what it says.
[05:58] <mojtaba> vfw: -rw------- 1 mojtaba mojtaba
[05:58] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: laptops generally what you need encrypted for. bit odd for a stationary device. it's not like the NSA are going to break into your home and take your hdd right?
[05:58] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[05:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: you never know... ;). anyways...
[05:59] <vfw> mojtaba: rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:59] <golfinho_333> vfw it looks this dont work...
[05:59] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. we'll simply this a bit so: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[06:00] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: command
[06:00] <mojtaba> vfw: golfinho_333: I can not remove it. it says: read-only file system
[06:00] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: use that to delete the partitions. d = delete. create a new partition spanning the full drive if you don't want a seperate /home
[06:01] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: try rebooting
[06:01] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: ok
[06:01] <golfinho_333> mojtaba what you can not remove?
[06:01] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: not sure why it mounted as readonly
[06:01] <mojtaba> should I boot in safe mode?
[06:01] <vfw> ls -ld /home/mjtaba
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: actually. sorry wait.
[06:02] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: should I boot in recovery mode?
[06:02] <vfw> mojtaba: ls -ld /home/mjtaba  #Tell us what that says
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: once you delete the partitions. first create your swap. how big do you want the swap?
[06:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: partitions deleted... 1G maybe?
[06:02] <mojtaba> vfw: I just reboot. please wait
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: how much ram do you have?
[06:02] <vfw> mojtaba: (Show us)
[06:03] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: should I boot in recovery mode?
[06:03] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: 1GB. For apache/mysql/php and potentially other services like mail, nfs later
[06:03] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: answer vfw first
[06:03] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f:I can not, because now the laptop is restarted. You told me to do that.
[06:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: I have a 250GB hard drive in it, so not too constrained.
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup 1gb swap should be enough
[06:04] <vfw> mojtaba: Login and do it.
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: create a partition with n
[06:04] <mojtaba> vfw
[06:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: n done
[06:04] <mojtaba> vfw: ok
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: starting 2048
[06:04] <jirido> Hi again . I have a litle problem again as expected.. Thunderbird does'nt get windowframes. If i open a window to write a letter .. It gets frames.. But not the main window. it is the only program that has this problem. How could i get hold of what's faulty? Im on lubuntu 12.04 and have compiz metacity and a gtk2 theme..
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ending/size: +2097152
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: type 82
[06:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: waaait... just a sec. I'm back at the p/e output? is it primary?
[06:05] <Beldar> jirido, Was the desktop fully usable till you tweaked it?
[06:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: p sorry
[06:05] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: my laptop has been shutdown several times and this causes the HDD to get some bad sectors; I think that is the problem now. (I am going to change the HDD next week.)
[06:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sorry forgot anout p/e. used to gpt these days
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: would you like a seperate /home or are you happy with a single partition?
[06:06] <jirido> well lets say i have not tweeked it but.. it got this way when i started to use thunderbird :)
[06:06] <Beldar> jirido, compiz and metacity are separate window managers by the way, not to be mixed.
[06:06] <vfw> mojtaba: If that were the case, your system would be running filesystem check now.
[06:07] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: I don't think I really need another partition for it? any particular benefit?
[06:07] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: Yes, and I just ignored it, because the disk is encrypted. (although I have let it to check for errors before, but nothing has changed.)
[06:07] <Beldar> jirido, What desktop are you using?
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: only on reinstalling. but that isn't really such a major thing on servers
[06:08] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: full disk or just home folder encryption?
[06:08] <jirido> Beldar: I think i have compiz for some efects but that it passes the frame thing to metacity.. Does that sound sensible?
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: if you just want a single root. n <enter> p <enter> <enter> <enter> 83 <enter>
[06:08] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: full
[06:08] <jirido> pcmanfm
[06:08] <Beldar> jirido, No, and what desktop is this, be sure to always use nicks here.
[06:08] <jirido> or lxde
[06:08] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: so I typed 2048 [Enter] +2097152
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[06:09] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: where does the 82 come in?
[06:09] <jirido> Beldar: ok
[06:09] <Beldar> jirido, This is lxde, and you have mixed compiz and metacity? Di you know what the desktop manager is for lxde?
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it should ask after. if not we'll just specify that in a sec
[06:09] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: when you started the system, you provided the unlock to boot....it can check the disk at that point.
[06:09] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nope, back to command prompt
[06:10] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: I am not sure, if I could isolate the bad sector with badblock command and fsck or not?!
[06:10] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. lets create /. n <enter> p <enter> <enter> <enter>
[06:10] <vfw> mojtaba: Don't ignore it.
[06:10] <vfw> mojtaba: Let it try and repair your filesystem.
[06:10] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Yes, I have let it to check for that, and it said there are some problems at /home and /, but it could not fix them.
[06:10] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright
[06:10] <mojtaba> vfw: I let it, but it could not.
[06:11] <vfw> mojtaba: Well, you won't know until you try.  Right?
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: t <enter>
[06:11] <mojtaba> vfw: I tried.
[06:11] <vfw> mojtaba: fsck -y /dev/what-ever
[06:11] <mojtaba> before
[06:11] <jirido> Beldar: you make me confused here.. This thing with window frames themes and window managers are like djungle already.. is ther some comand i can run that shows what setup i have?
[06:11] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: sudo fsck -Af -M
[06:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:11] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: ls -ld /home/mojtaba > drwx------ 122 mojtaba mojtaba
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that should ask, whick partition. choose 1
[06:12] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: vfw: As the disk is encrypted, is it safe to run fsck on it?
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> so i have this VPS with 12.10 and i tried to apt-get update
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> and i got this
[06:12] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then give it: 82 as type
[06:12] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:12] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: you should be ok.  You unlocked it at boot and it is readable
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now: w <enter>    to write it to disk
[06:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: .
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:13] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: It do not ask any password at boot. I have not encrypted the whole system while installing ubuntu. Later I encrypt the whole system. (but I do not remember what were the commands.)
[06:13] <Beldar> jirido, I suspect the root of the problem is the tweaking with compiz and metacity, and theming, just a guess but probably accurate. Lxde is meant to be pretty basic I would be careful, when you add stuff extra like this you are heading for a no support area technically.
[06:13] <josh____> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842167/
[06:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO:
[06:13] <jirido> Beldar: Do you mean pcmanfm
[06:13] <vfw> mojtaba: But do NOT run fsck on a mounted partition.
[06:14] <mojtaba> It seems, it is read only again?
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sweet
[06:14] <golfinho_333> vfw and somsip the solution is in: sudo nano /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf need to disable there it was bloking te public_html  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502067
[06:14] <vfw> golfinho_333: Thanks for letting us know.
[06:14] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: vfw: -M doesn't check mounted
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mkswap /dev/sda1
[06:14] <golfinho_333> vfw thanks for the help :)
[06:14] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: this is so much more fun than pressing enter over and over :P
[06:14] <Beldar> jirido, pcfman is the file type
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: lol
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda2
[06:15] <jirido> Beldar: well so far it has gone werry well.. pcmanfm
[06:15] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: it seems I could remove that file. Let me see if I could login or not.
[06:15] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done.
[06:15] <vfw> golfinho_333: You disabled what?
[06:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mkdir install && sudo mount /dev/sda2 install && sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:16] <Beldar> jirido, Sure, however you are beyond any logical use and have done this without really knowing the capabilities and limitations is all.
[06:16] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: if the system doesn't ask for a password on boot, it is not encrypted (from my experience with different encryptions)   Have you tried accessing the disk from a liveCD?  Can you read the volumes?  if so, it isn't encrypted
[06:16] <golfinho_333> vfw the place that says  /*/public_html
[06:16] <jirido> Beldar: I do not know how it would work to disable metacity and just use compiz.. could i still use the openbox themes?
[06:16] <golfinho_333> it was off
[06:17] <mojtaba> vfw: jeffrey_f: Thank you very much. I could login to GUI. :)  (Do you have any comment on the disk, itself? I could pastebin the result of the commands)
[06:17] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: No, I can not access the disk with live CD.
[06:17] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: seems to not want to create install, saying it already exists
[06:18] <Beldar> jirido, I have no idea, I don't tweak my OS's in general with theming or managers.
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: o.O
[06:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: and rmdir doesn't work, says it's busy
[06:18] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: good.  What do you mean comments?
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: are you in ~ ?
[06:18] <vfw> golfinho_333: php_admin_value engine Off  ?
[06:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: yup
[06:18] <jirido> Beldar: Hey i dont ned this..  I feel that if you dont know how to help me just say so ok
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mount | pastebinit
[06:18] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I mean, what should I do to isolate that bad sectors?
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: thats weird ~/install doesn't exist by default
[06:19] <josh____> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842181/
[06:19] <jirido> Beldar: Its ok
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> why cant i update my repos?
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:19] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: the error must be from the debootstrap
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> i dont even have nano
[06:19] <vfw> golfinho_333: or did you comment out that whole stansa?
[06:19] <gueriLLaPunK> so i can edit files
[06:19] <hitsujiTMO> ls -l install
[06:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: maybe... maybe I forgot a pair of &&s
[06:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nope
[06:20] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: You can try....I'd replace the disk as you were going to.  Make that current disk a portable drive until it dies. (my opinion)
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw this---> http://pastebin.com/wzvRqmLa
[06:20] <Beldar> jirido, Reality can be painful. I am just noticing your tweaking without really knowing what you are doing is all. At least that is my impression. ;)
[06:20] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ls -l install returns nothing right?
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw need to disable this
[06:20] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: What should I do for over heating problem then, as it might kill the new HDD too. :(
[06:20] <josh____> Desktop , Documents, Downloads, install, music, pictures, public, templates, videos
[06:20] <golfinho_333> vfw that why it was only working the php in /var/www and not in localhost/~username
[06:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO:
[06:21] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I did not have this problem in windows. unfortunately
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what about: ls -l install
[06:21] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: lost+found
[06:21] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: owned by root, rwx by only root
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. lets try again: sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:21] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: blow out the vents with compressed air.  Attempt (if you are brave) to access the heatsink and really clean it.
[06:22] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: the overheat issue?
[06:22] <jirido> Beldar: I have not been tweeking. ones a year ago i have installed compiz and since then every thing has been all ok. Now i started to use thunderbird and it dont get window frames and i need some leads how i can start to find the problem.. Ev some comand that lists what wm i have in actual use  and so on
[06:22] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no such script /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/saucy
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: o.O is this the 13.10 iso?
[06:22] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I have used compressed air several times. (I checked how to change the fan in youtube, my laptop is Dell Studio 1555, almost everything must be taken apart. :( )
[06:23] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Yes
[06:23] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh dang it... I accidentally downloaded 13.04 from the page I was on *epicfacepalm*
[06:23] <jirido> Beldar: its anoying since i have to alt tab out of it every time i check mail..
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: lol.
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: no problems
[06:24] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: welp... guess I'll get on that
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs: sudo apt-get purge debootstrap
[06:24] <jirido> Beldar: I have done that for a month now
[06:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.53_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i debootstrap_1.0.53_all.deb
[06:25] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ily for saving me the time...
[06:26] <jirido> Beldar: Is there not some way to get to se what order things are straped?
[06:26] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: I have a fan laptable  It keeps it cool
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: onces thats done try again: sudo debootstrap saucy install
[06:26] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: I have a fan with 4 blowers. But sometimes it is not enogh
[06:27] <mojtaba> enough*
[06:27] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's working so far
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cool. that may take a bit of time. let me know when its complete. ususally talking 5 - 10 mins
[06:28] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:28] <jirido> Beldar: Did you get angry with me now?
[06:28] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: in the mean time. what country are you in. i'll generate a sources.list now
[06:28] <gueriLLaPunK> why cant i update my repos?
[06:28] <mojtaba> jeffrey_f: Why ubuntu cause over heating problems, while windows does not!
[06:28] <gueriLLaPunK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842165/
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> i cant even get nano
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: nano: command not found
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> apt-get nano gives me
[06:29] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Invalid operation nano
[06:30] <mojtaba> Will ubuntu 14.04 LTS be more stable and will the over heating be still there?!
[06:30] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: sudo apt-get install nano
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Unable to locate package nano
[06:30] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: US
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> lol i forgot install before
[06:30] <gueriLLaPunK> but i still cant update apt-get
[06:31] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: btw, when we were creating the swap, how'd you calculate the 2 million figure?
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: an issue with the dns that its using. try changing the dns
[06:31] <gueriLLaPunK> ahh
[06:31] <jeffrey_f> mojtaba: if you have partial blockage of the fins on the CPU heatsink, Ubuntu uses the CPU more aggressively at times, so it may show up
[06:31] <Beldar> mojtaba, I have the feeling you may have not done all that can be done to make sure the heat is taken care of. On my toshiba laptop windows runs hotter, I would investigates that computer model and heat with ubuntu and make sure it is clean and get a cooling pad that will cool it.
[06:32] <Beldar> mojtaba, Make sure the sensors are running accurate as well.
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: the sector size for your hdd is 512 bytes. 1gb = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 =<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes. so thats<PHONE_NUMBER> / 512 = 2097152 sectors
[06:33] <mojtaba> Beldar: How should I check the sensors status?
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> hitsujiTMO, i went here
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2078398
[06:33] <NealNewAtLinux> Hello people. I am a complete newbie at ubuntu. I don't seem to have any programs or GUI. what do I do?
[06:33] <Beldar> !lm-sensors | mojtaba
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> and i got this
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[06:33] <gueriLLaPunK> even thou im root
[06:33] <jirido> Beldar: I think if you dont want to help me say so not just say im been tweeking and let go like i dont exist..
[06:34] <gueriLLaPunK> if i do vim before it, its blank
[06:34] <NealNewAtLinux> http://imgur.com/uU3syCh pic is relevent
[06:34] <mojtaba> Beldar: I will check that, thank you.
[06:34] <kathuria> hello
[06:34] <hitsujiTMO> gueriLLaPunK: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:34] <gueriLLaPunK> ty
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> sudo: unable to resolve host la-vps19.chicagovps.net
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:35] <kathuria> how can i get animation software ??
[06:35] <Beldar> mojtaba, No problem, just be sure to get this fixed, overheating the laptop is not good will shorten its life and can brick the OS, at the least.
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> yay
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> it works
[06:35] <mojtaba> Beldar: yes. Thanks
[06:35] <gueriLLaPunK> i removed sudo, since im root (i assume)
[06:35] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: base system installed
[06:36] <gueriLLaPunK> hitsujiTMO, thank you very much
[06:36] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the explanation. saving that for next time i need to manually partition
[06:36] <NealNewAtLinux> Gentlemen, I implore you to help me http://imgur.com/uU3syCh
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if I am using a laptop with Xubuntu on it, what would be the best way to configure ufw for typical desktop use?
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> if am not planning on sshing into my laptop
[06:36] <Psil0Cybin> just to use it physically
[06:37] <Beldar> !details | NealNewAtLinux
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O sources.list http://sprunge.us/hLfI
[06:37] <Beldar> NealNewAtLinux, State the issues, a picture means nothing without them.
[06:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: perfect
[06:38] <NealNewAtLinux> I just booted up ubuntu from a thumb drive and have no idea how to run programs
[06:38] <Beldar> NealNewAtLinux, This is support, state the issues individually.
[06:38] <imghost> !manual | NealNewAtLinux
[06:39] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: Go to start menu
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo cp sources.list install/etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <NealNewAtLinux> I have not been able to find any start menu. I hit the windows key, to no avail
[06:39] <NealNewAtLinux> !manual
[06:39] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /dev install/dev
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /sys install/sys
[06:40] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: Is there no panel or windowbar?
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts install/dev/pts
[06:40] <NealNewAtLinux> No, there isn't.
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo mount -t proc none install/proc
[06:40] <jirido> upps
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: mount | pastebinit
[06:40] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: rightclick on desktop then
[06:41] <glitsj16> jirido: you mentioned having a gtk2 theme .. have you tried disabling it temporarily to see if that has any effect?
[06:41] <lacrymol1gy> I'm getting this on apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[06:41] <NealNewAtLinux> jirido, did that, nothing. the "desktop" doesn't seem to have anything but a background
[06:41] <lacrymol1gy> it is stopping the upgrade manager from working
[06:42] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, you did a fresh install?
[06:42] <NealNewAtLinux> Yes
[06:42] <jirido> glitsj16: How do i do that.. some theme i must have dont i?
[06:42] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:42] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842280/
[06:42] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: That sounds bad
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> ubuntu 13.10
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sudo chroot install
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> desktop-i386
[06:43] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:43] <jirido> NealNewAtLinux: is it a new ubuntu
[06:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need to generate the mtab: cat /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab
[06:43] <NealNewAtLinux> is 13.10 new?
[06:44] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[06:44] <glitsj16> jirido: i'm not too familiar with lxde, anything like gnome-tweak-tool you can install thru apt-get?
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: let me know if there's errors here: apt-get update
[06:45] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, try to reset the unity open the terminal press ctrl+T and type dconf "reset -f /org/compiz/"
[06:45] <glitsj16> jirido: you could also check your ~/.themes directory and temporarily renaming the theme involved
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: jirido lxde has lxappearance
[06:46] <imghost> NealNewAtLinux, then "setsid unity" and "unity --reset-icons"
[06:46] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: great thx, that should make things easier for jirido
[06:46] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: GPG key error
[06:46] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: rest worked until the very end
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 16126D3A3E5C1192   ???
[06:47] <jirido> glitsj16: I would like to try to disable compiz and se whats happens but everytime i do such changes (i have not found out realy how to turn compiz of but anyway) things get ugly and i sitt with the promt att ctrl alt F1
[06:47] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: yep
[06:47] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 16126D3A3E5C1192
[06:47] <zedzdead> Hey guys, this is Austin!
[06:48] <NealNewAtLinux> hit ctrl-t, nothing happened
[06:48] <glitsj16> jirido: let's go for the theme check first perhaps, we can have a look at compiz in a sec
[06:48] <glitsj16> jirido: just trying to rule out a few things, not that i already know what your issue is and holding it back :)
[06:48] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then once again: apt-get update
[06:49] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok... running update now
[06:49] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:49] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: Alt-F2 gnome-terminal
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need the language pack: apt-get install language-pack-en
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then set the locale: update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US
[06:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: was going to mention locale errors. will do.,
[06:50] <jirido> glitsj16: Thunderbird dont use the usual theme engine it seems.. it has it own themes/ so you meen i should just try change theme in LXaperance.. that i have already done and it does not affect.. maybe if i could switch window manager.. temporarly.
[06:50] <NealNewAtLinux> vfw: nothing happened, again
[06:50] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: I don't know then...
[06:51] <NealNewAtLinux> could it be that I booted from a usb drive?
[06:51] <vfw> NealNewAtLinux: Alt-F2 does nothing?
[06:51] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, some of the base packages may need an update: apt-get upgrade
[06:51] <NealNewAtLinux> yeah, no response
[06:52] <vahid> hi
[06:52] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: next install the kernel and grub make sure to install grub to /dev/sda (NOT /dev/sda1 !!!): apt-get install linux-image grub-pc
[06:52] <NealNewAtLinux> is it safe to pull out my usb drive? I need to go to bed
[06:52] <glitsj16> jirido: okay, that complicates things a bit, are you using the default thunderbird theme? if not, try that please
[06:52] <vahid> hi all
[06:53] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: *takes deep breath before typing*
[06:53] <NealNewAtLinux> should I turn off my computer before removing the thumb drive
[06:54] <vahid> ho install font in back box
[06:54] <harvi> msg Nickserv Identify killer11
[06:54] <NealNewAtLinux> uhh
[06:54] <Nullifi3d> lol
[06:54] <NealNewAtLinux> he better change his password
[06:54] <vahid> hi all
[06:54] <glitsj16> jirido: openbox should be your window manager in lxde iirc, at least it should be the default unless you changed it, we'll check on that if the thunderbird default theme change doesn't improve things
[06:55] <NealNewAtLinux> hi vahid
[06:55] <vahid> hi
[06:55] <vahid> im install back bus but not working virtual box help
[06:55] <NealNewAtLinux> vfw I need to go, and my comp needs to be turned off.
[06:55] <vahid> and
[06:55] <jirido> glitsj16: no it didnt.. It just looked bad :)
[06:56] <vahid> how install blututhe
[06:56] <NealNewAtLinux> there is no power shutoff button since I have no gui, should I just hold the button and do a force-shutdown
[06:56] <vahid> and
[06:56] <jirido> glitsj16: and i tried gtk theme changer and changed to an other theme but no.
[06:56] <glitsj16> jirido: lol, ok, let's see what your ccsm has to report on the window manager settings .. can you open that up and point it at the 'window decorations' part?
[06:56] <vahid> and
[06:57] <NealNewAtLinux> stop acting like a 12 year old
[06:57] <vahid> how inistal persian font
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: that installed?
[06:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: almost... what i said was a little premature. packages were dowloading then.
[06:59] <vahid> no persian site is ad font
[06:59] <jirido> glitsj16: when i do change theme in openbox configuration manager nothing happens
[06:59] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: now... the real moment of truth
[06:59] <vahid> how install virtual box in back box
[07:00] <glitsj16> jirido: looks like we need to search for other possible causes besides themes, what do you think?
[07:00] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: installed
[07:00] <vahid> not working eror
[07:01] <vahid> erorr
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, some debian installs dont trigger update-grub or grub-install when installing grub-pc, so to be sure: update-grub && grub-install /dev/sda
[07:01] <vahid> how install virtual box
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: if you need to configure the keyboard layout: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[07:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no errors
[07:02] <jirido> glitsj16: I think i paste some gtk info!
[07:02] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/d3hPm8hM
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: set the timezone: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[07:02] <glitsj16> jirido: the odd thing is that it seems to be only the main thunderbird window that is lacking decorations .. that's why i asked about your compiz settings in 'window decorations' .. there might be a rule (or part of it that is causing that)
[07:02] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: keybaord layout is okay from what I can tell
[07:03] <jirido> Ok i look
[07:03] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: tz set
[07:03] <MAD_51> morning!
[07:03] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install pastebinit
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: blkid | pastebinit
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: need this so we can generate the fstab
[07:04] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: what step made the commands affect the new system rather than the live cd? was it chroot?
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[07:05] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: chroot = change root
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842339/
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: right, I knew that but never really understood how it worked
[07:05] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: trying to keep this knowledge for the future, that's why I ask.
[07:06] <mojtaba1> Hi, Does anybody know how can I monitor the output of a command like sensors or acpi continously via terminal?
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: whats your favourite text editor in console?
[07:06] <somsip> mojtaba1: man watch
[07:06] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: nano, but vi/vim is doable for me too
[07:06] <mojtaba1> somsip: thanks
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install nano
[07:07] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[07:07] <glitsj16> jirido: the paste looks okay, those GTK_xxx env vars not being set is normal, as you can see it then looks at the default file locations for whatever it needs .. nothing i can see there that could act oddly
[07:08] <udo> quit
[07:08] <udo> exit
[07:08] <udo> #quit
[07:08] <udo> ?
[07:08] <udo> help
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: how should exit that?
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: except ctrl+c
[07:09] <somsip> mojtaba1: CTRL-C
[07:09] <somsip> mojtaba1: kill it then
[07:09] <mojtaba1> somsip: can I watch multiple commands with one watch command?
[07:09] <glitsj16> jirido: just to make sure .. would you mind pasting your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file?
[07:10] <somsip> mojtaba1: no reason why you can't use more than one terminal. Or wrap the commands in a batch file
[07:10] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done installing nano
[07:10] <mojtaba1> somsip: I just wanted to have the output in one place
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs. just preping the sources.list
[07:11] <jirido> glitsj16: i killed compiz and started metacity.. everything got a lot stiffer as im used to rubber windows that snap ..:) But the same same with thunderbird
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: 2 secs. just preping the fstab sorry
[07:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cd /etc
[07:11] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O fstab http://sprunge.us/BEMP
[07:12] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: no wget... just a sec
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: apt-get install wget && wget -O fstab http://sprunge.us/BEMP
[07:12] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: :P
[07:13] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done with that now
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: create a user account: adduser <insertusernamehere>
[07:13] <glitsj16> jirido: hard one to diagnose, so nothing in your ccsm 'window decorations' mentioning thunderbird? especially in the box with the same name, comes with a setting of "any" by default .. but you'll have to fire compi back up i guess
[07:14] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok
[07:14] <jirido> glitsj16: so its not the wm..  ?? could i try to reach thunderbird manual or maybe start it in cli and pipe errors to file? / i did
[07:15] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: add user to the sudoers group, be wary here: its a small a capital G: usermod -aG sudo <insertusernamehere>
[07:16] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: k
[07:16] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: what hostname do you want for the server?
[07:16] <glitsj16> jirido: if there isn't any rule in your window decorations stansa in ccsm i don't think it is part of the issue no .. good idea about going manual on the thunderbird
[07:16] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: s2 is okay for now, i'll set it to a fqdn later once i point something
[07:17] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: echo "s2" > /etc/hostname
[07:17] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: echo "<IP_ADDRESS> s2" >> /etc/hosts
[07:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: do i need to remove the ubuntu hostname entry>
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: this should overwrite it
[07:18] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: well.. it didn't. i'll fix it
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: cool
[07:18] <Teo_77> hello everybody
[07:19] <Teo_77> I have a strange question and I am not able to find a solution in the sea of internet. Can I try here?
[07:19] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: ok done there
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, how do you setup the network?  dhcp? static?
[07:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: dhcp
[07:20] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: had bad experiences with static, so i just let the router assign static IPs
[07:21] <Teo_77> how can I put specific folders in a specific HD without creating a partition each?
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok: cd /etc/network
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: wget -O interfaces http://sprunge.us/SJaX
[07:22] <Beldar> Teo_77, Partition each? what is the end goal?
[07:22] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: done
[07:23] <Teo_77> I mean: I have 2 HD on HD 1 I have 2 partitions (/ and /home) 2nd disk is empty
[07:23] <Teo_77> I would like to move some specific folder to second disk
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. you have an absolute minimal server install now.
[07:23] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright... guess I'll reboot and see if it works?
[07:24] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup
[07:24] <sweetgum> hi... im trying to install java dk 6 can someone help?
[07:24] <Beldar> Teo_77, So you are saying you don;t know how to move files from one HD to another?
[07:24] <Beldar> !java | sweetgum
[07:25] <Teo_77> could be... 1st disk is a SSD and to contain number of writes I would like to put fonders like /var on the magnetic HD
[07:25] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: oh wow. no stats motd
[07:25] <glitsj16> jirido: in the mean time i'm looking at the reported launchpad bugs for thunderbird
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: yup. as i said, minimal install
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: few things to clean up first
[07:26] <Teo_77> moving with mv is usual also among mounted disks
[07:26] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: what's the proper way to set console screen size? i've seen old forum posts, but i imagine some of those are old
[07:26] <Beldar> Teo_77, /var is in root right, what is the purpose?
[07:26] <Teo_77> but I'm unsure how to tell to kernel where are folder it needs
[07:26] <Teo_77> let's do an example
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it should do it dynamically for you. is it not?
[07:27] <glitsj16> jirido: doing that i realised i never asked if you already tried a temp rename of your thunderbird profile so it gets a fresh one on a restart .. longshots at best
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: it shouldn't matter anyway as you should be ssh'ing in :P
[07:27] <Beldar> Teo_77, Is the SSD to full, and this is your answer to that?
[07:27] <Teo_77> I've read that to contain the number of writes (and increase the life of the SSD) it is advisable to have some folders on a traditional disk
[07:27] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it's just in a corner of the display. but it's not a big deal like you say.
[07:27] <Teo_77> to reduce the number of writes
[07:28] <Teo_77> of course y ssd cannot store all my system and I need to move something also on the other HD.
[07:28] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: lol only 46MB of RAM utilized
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: ok. need to run: echo "ohci_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/modules && update-initramfs -u
[07:29] <jirido> glitsj16: ok so i try that first..
[07:29] <Teo_77> Beldar, I'm not sure I explained my question. Is my goal clear?
[07:29] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: this fixes that bug you were on about that prevented you from installing. You need this incase you ever want to use the recovery console or get dropped to busybox
[07:30] <Beldar> Teo_77, SSD's now a days have as long a life as spinning HD's, have you set up a optimizing schema?
[07:31] <Teo_77> set up a optimizing schema? Don't understand. So there is no need to take particular care. The only problem could be the available space.
[07:31] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: it failed. ln failed to create hard link - op not permitted, cp cant create regular file - permission denied
[07:31] <Teo_77> Beldar, do you mean TRIM?
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: now, if you want, you can install ubuntu-standard .... this will gove you a nice base to work from. it installs tools like, memtest86+, man, ntfs-3g, openssh-client, bash-completion, command-not-found and a few others
[07:32] <Beldar> Teo_77, For al general purposes yes, SSD's in the beginning had shorter now they are more robust. Yes trim.
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: pastebinit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[07:33] <Teo_77> Beldar, TRIM is OK. Asking now just your opinion. What should I put on a spinning HD? My 120Gb SSD is not enough for everything. I understand it is a silly question. Just your opinion...
[07:33] <jirido> glitsj16: i changed name of the profile in profiles.ini.. nd got :Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.. when it started.. or rather did'nt start :/
[07:34] <Teo_77> Beldar, if I put all my /home I loose the speed of SSD for the handling of my files (docs, videos for editing, pics reading)
[07:34] <Beldar>  Teo_77 All the extra media stuff to start with, what is on the SSD as of now, I have 256 gig SSD and 4 OS.
[07:36] <Teo_77> Beldar, I'm going to have 128Gb SSD. Ordered. Now in travel. 1 SO (xubuntu) not a complex system. LVM. a /home with some Gigs of videos and music and pics that will not fit in the SSD
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: sorry, forgot sudo: sudo update-initramfs -u
[07:37] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: was wondering if that was the issue
[07:37] <Beldar> Teo_77, I can't say exactly should be on the SSD or the spinning HD, but I would avoid breaking apart the OS anymore that putting home or root there is all myself.
[07:37] <glitsj16> jirido: every time i'm tempted to give you a command to purge thunderbird .. i did find a forum thread though --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2184227 .. so your not the only one seeing this behavior
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: once everything is done: sudo apt-get clean
[07:37] <Beldar> than*
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: then congrats on getting your server installed
[07:38] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: alright. thanks so much. glad that it eventually got working. I learned a lot from this. Is there a wiki page for this process or is it a mostly undocumented thing?
[07:38] <Teo_77> Beldar, thank you for your time and your answers. I'll take everything on my SSD. I'll just create a folder on the spininng HD to contain the media files that I do not need to edit anymore
[07:39] <Beldar> Teo_77, No problem, that sounds like a prudent action, I was thinking along the same lines.
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: public documentation for this kind of thing is allover the place. I have my own documentation that I was working from
[07:40] <Teo_77> Beldar, ;) Bye. Have a nice day/evening/night
[07:40] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: is there any way I could get said documentation so that i can play around with other boxes and stuff?
[07:40] <Beldar> you to
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: thats it, but its based on uefi and not mbr install. https://wiki.tenmilesout.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Debootstrap_Efi_Minimal_Install
[07:41] <root32> how to make ubuntu boot cd using live cd ?
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: most of my docs are on a home server
[07:42] <jirido> glitsj16: Yess sweetheart! It was something wrong with the profile! So smart of you to think of it! I had no idea that a profile could rech out and kick the window frames of a program like that..
[07:43] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: thanks for your tine. that page is getting bookmarked for sure
[07:43] <glitsj16> jirido: \o/ :p
[07:43] <Beldar> !details | root32
[07:43] <hitsujiTMO> josh____: no problem
[07:46] <root32> ubottu: i have new ubuntu .iso image , i try to boot it with vatual box , but not boot it.. :(
[07:46] <glitsj16> jirido: odd indeed, especially that it would only affect the main window .. oh well, enjoy the compiz/lxde combo i'd say
[07:47] <root32> ubottu: it's ok.. :)
[07:48] <MAD_51> morning!
[07:48] <root32> MAD_51: Morning :D
[07:49] <Beldar> root32, your description lack any real details, you might try #vbox as well, we can help with better details in general.
[07:50] <josh____> hitsujiTMO: Follow-up question: when I run "sudo shutdown now", it doesn't shutdown, but just enters single-user mode -- is that a setting of some sort?
[07:51] <apb1963> How can I find what packages depend on a specific version of a library?  In particular, libqtcore4 version 4.8.2  ?
[07:52] <root32> Beldar: no need to use with vertual box, i want to make boot .iso ubuntu image.. how to do it?
[07:52] <apb1963> I know that I can do apt-cache rdepends <pkgname>... but that doesn't specify the specific version in use.
[07:53] <Beldar> root32, For an install on the HD? Burn it to a disk, or load it to a usb with an app.
[07:54] <Paulyoung> 	0,16 大家好
[07:54] <jirido> glitsj16: Thank you very much love, It has been e real anoyance..! are you in for an other litle problem after a litle coffe brake or shall we rest for another day..?
[07:54] <root32> Beldar: ok , what is the app for boot usb ?
[07:55] <Beldar> root32, What OS do you have to do this with, there are handfulls of usb loaders, some run in specific OS's and have versions for others.
[07:55] <glitsj16> jirido: if i can help, i just poored a big cup .. and the channel reads along so ask away
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> joshhunt_: sudo poweroff
[07:56] <jirido> ok. This gona be messy
[07:56] <glitsj16> heh
[07:56] <root32> Beldar: Ubuntu new version ?
[07:57] <Beldar> root32, what operating system are you using so that you can load the usb?
[07:58] <Beldar> root32, If we are having a language problem, there is ubuntu support for specific languages if needed.
[07:59] <nearst> ask!
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> root32: ##ubuntu-lk
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> root32: sorry #ubuntu-lk
[08:03] <glitsj16> apb1963: just a question .. are you sure about the version #? can't find any mention of a version 4:4.8.2 on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:04] <apb1963> glitsj16: it comes from the backports ppa... which is why I need to get rid of it.  I'm told it's not supported.
[08:05] <glitsj16> apb1963: are you on precise 12.04?
[08:05] <apb1963> glitsj16: yes
[08:07] <glitsj16> apb1963: you could try to downgrade the version to the one from the regular repos, but before trying .. do you want to disable backports all together ?
[08:08] <apb1963> glitsj16: so before I get rid of it, I want to see what packages depend on it.... I don't want to be left with an unusable system
[08:11] <glitsj16> apb1963: hmm, i understand .. especially with a core lib like that it could be hairy
[08:11] <apb1963> glitsj16: No, I don't think I do... though to be honest I'm not 100% sure.  I'm just stumbling along trying to setup various packages that look useful for a real business.
[08:11] <apb1963> glitsj16: And keep running into major hiccups.
[08:11] <jirido> glitsj16: You see I have a 2 terabyte disk. I sharede it in two. one i had to format to hfs+ to get on it some film i got to edit on a school in helsini. They only had mac and.. yes so i formated it so.. but as i omly used about 2-300 gig its mostly empty.. The other part. is full soo full.. good alternative Films and dockumentarys and so on. so i ofcorse wanted to use some of that lovly empty space.. but as linux cant write at hfs+ th
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: apt-cache show libqtcore4 | grep 'Depends\|Recommends'
[08:13] <jirido> glitsj16: so now i cant mount it even  to read it.
[08:14] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: Thank you but that doesn't tell me what depends on libqtcore4... it tells me what libqtcore4 depends on... the exact reverse
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: ahh sorry. apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4     but thats a list of everying in the repo. not necessarily whats installed
[08:16] <jirido> It complains of differensies in the backup of superblock or something.. when i mount in spacefm it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[08:17] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: ahh sorry. apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4     but thats a list of everying in the repo. not necessarily whats installed
[08:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I didn't realize it was everything in the repo... but it also fails to provide specific versions.
[08:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: now at least I understand why the list is so long :)
[08:22] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: whats the output of: apt-cache show libqtcore4 | grep Version
[08:22] <glitsj16> jirido: did you ran a fsck on it yet? and this isn't exactly one of my strong suits .. maybe try to put a paste together with the logs so people here can have a closer look on the issue
[08:23] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO:  apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4  limits to installed packages
[08:24] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6842589/
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: sweet, will note that for future. for specific version try: apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4=4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: or: apt-cache --installed rdepends libqtcore4>=4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6
[08:26] <jirido> glitsj16: I actually could mount it again.. I just looked and tryed a little and when i took away the default option in fstab.. it MOUNTED! :)   But So comes next Q Is it safe to change owner of the files from whitin linux right like that and will it work with a mac then?
[08:27] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: the latter gives no output.... the former outputs the same thing as not specifying the version
[08:29] <Shikieiki_> is it bad to do-release-upgrade and not reboot afterwards?
[08:30] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, You have to reboot to finalize the upgrade.
[08:30] <Shikieiki_> because my ubuntu just reached it's end of life apparently, but i have 100+ days of uptime and i'm going for a new personal record.
[08:30] <Walex> Shikieiki_: it is not *that* bad.
[08:30] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: but it wont' cause any severe instability or anything?
[08:30] <glitsj16> jirido: by taking out the 'defaults' you don't exactly change ownership of the files on there, so now yoy don't have anything at all in fstab after blowing away defaults?
[08:30] <makara> hi. I've got an old laptop. It doesn't handle unity graphics so well. I remember years ago an option to use Unity2D, or choose whatever GUI at login menu. But in 13.04 now I don't see that option?
[08:31] <Shikieiki_> because i'm hesitant to force an upgrade through two versions without rebooting if it will break everything
[08:31] <hitsujiTMO> makara: lubuntu would be the best bet for such a system. unity2d is gone a while now
[08:32] <hitsujiTMO> makara: also. 13.04 is end of life
[08:32] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, I would forget the uptime it means nothing, do it correctly.
[08:33] <makara> hitsujiTMO, how can I see ubuntu release from cli?
[08:33] <jirido> glitsj16: No.. It still has :hfsplus noatime,noauto,user,users
[08:33] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: but, is it known to cause any problems to not reboot?
[08:33] <hitsujiTMO> makara: cat /etc/issue      or lsb_release -c
[08:33] <Shikieiki_> or will all i miss out on be the newer kernel, until i reboot?
[08:33] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, Not an Issue I have seen addressed as it is not a good idea to be honest.
[08:34] <makara> hitsujiTMO, ok. I've just done a release-upgrade. It's 13.10
[08:34] <Shikieiki_> hm, how long then can an ubuntu that's been upgraded twice stay online before experiencing issues then?  hours?  days?
[08:34] <glitsj16> jirido: defaults as mount options implies rw, so that was the issue probably, you should be safe .. only test is reality as you know .. boot into OS X and native tools to do another file system check
[08:35] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, This is an unknown to be honest, to many variables.
[08:35] <Shikieiki_> hm
[08:35] <Shikieiki_> well, i guess i'll be the first, i'm curious now
[08:36] <Guest15747> hi
[08:36] <Guest15747> I'm having trouble with duplicate sources.list entries, any takers?
[08:36] <jirido> But i understand that user and owner should be 1000 on the disk preferably set from within mac as owner 99 cant be reached really as it some kind of virtual owner?? but what i wonder is if there is some way to change the owner in a safe and actuall way on that disk with owner and group 99?
[08:37] <Guest15747> This occurred after a release upgrade from Precise to Quantal
[08:37] <jirido> glitsj16: I mean owner and group
[08:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest15747: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit
[08:37] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, Honestly risking the OS for some uptime cred that means nothing is rather illogical.
[08:38] <glitsj16> jirido: if you didn't chown'd anything taking out the 'default' mount option shouldn't do no harm .. or did you change ownerships?
[08:39] <Shikieiki_> Beldar: worst that happens is i have to reinstall.  i'm moving onto gentoo anyway, and haven't reinstalled yet simply because i'm going for 1 year of uptime (so it's not a hugely important computer)
[08:40] <glitsj16> jirido: add .. uid=1000,gid=1000 in that case
[08:41] <glitsj16> jirido: missed a part, so used to the highlighting on the nick that i overlooked sorry
[08:41] <Beldar> Shikieiki_, You can setup ubuntu to not need reboots with kernel upgrades, IE with a LTS you could possibly have a 5 year up time.
[08:42] <Shikieiki_> i know, i plan on sticking with LTS from now on
[08:42] <jirido> glitsj16: sorry
[08:42] <Shikieiki_> for kernel updates at least, i never reboot (unless the update fixes a security flaw)
[08:45] <jirido> glitsj16: The thing is that if i gona use the uid and gid bits the ownership on the disk must be sett to that. but ownership 99 on mac is "everybody" and works like a cameliont and change after whats youre uid.. But does it do that on linux also? and if i chown it to 1000.1000 will that be permanent?
[08:46] <jirido> And do i really need to?
[08:47] <jaclass08> where can i download stuff
[08:48] <glitsj16> jirido: best ask some confirmation on that here, not sure on that and we wouldn't wanna blow away your film collection .. that being said i think the uid/gid bits are for the duration of the mount cycle
[08:48] <DJones> jaclass08: You can download Ubuntu from www.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> jaclass08: or Software Center
[08:49] <jaclass08> thnx
[08:50] <jirido> yes maybe i can set them to 99 ?
[08:51] <jirido> How can i se the actual owner and user of the partitition ? i know some folder on it is owned by root
[08:51] <Teozac> Hello
[08:52] <Teozac> now, im 100% new to ubuntu and linux at all so ive just come for some help
[08:52] <Beldar> !manual | Teozac a good start
[08:53] <makara> hi. I've locked myself out of a VM by setting SSH to refuse passwords, before I added my key. I've added the vdh to another instance of Ubuntu. How can I see it, and mount it, so I can add the key?
[08:53] <Teozac> Im trying to download an irc client and trying to grasp how to install something from the terminal
[08:54] <Beldar> Teozac, You want to stick with the ubuntu repos in general, it is rare you would need otherwise.
[08:55] <jirido> glitsj16: sorry again.. i think its time for me to go to bed  . :) You have been so sweet and patient with me .. Thank you and hope you all good and nice helpsearchers this morning. I se you around. Thanks
[08:55] <Beldar> makara, You would have to chroot in I would think.
[08:56] <Beldar> if you could but no password makes this difficult
[08:56] <optiwork> How can I get nvidia optimus to work on 13.10? LSPCI gives the following: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[08:56] <Beldar> !optimus | optiwork have you seen
[08:57] <glitsj16> jirido: keep well and have a nice stretch :)
[08:57] <optiwork> Beldar, Yes but then I have to run everything from the command line. Everything from Chrome and VMware to Wine and FreeCAD
[08:58] <optiwork> And Mathematica has issues with it. (Plots don't render unless your manipulating them)
[08:59] <Beldar> optiwork, Mainly for help here specific details are needed, not an area i"m real familiar with is all.
[09:00] <optiwork> optiwork, Well, My specific details on the hardware is above. All I'm looking to do is get 3D to work when I need it, and not when I don't. Just like it does on Windows - The card is off until something needs it.
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> Teozac: well what are you trying to install, 99% of the time you'll want to use 'sudo apt-get install nameofpackage'. sudo - superuser do, perform command as admin (so you have absolute rights); apt-get is the package manager ubuntu uses; install is a argument given to apt-get; nameofpackage - self explanatory
[09:01] <optiwork> Beldar, Whoops, I used my name instead of yours. The above was addressed to you.
[09:02] <Beldar> optiwork, This is linux, just like windows means nothing here. You have to be aware of the limitations of the drivers provided by vendors and the communities ability to work around this.
[09:03] <optiwork> Beldar, Don't nvidia provide drivers for Linux? I've used them on a previous machine. I just can't find any source saying that they fix the optimus problem - and a few say it breaks it.
[09:04] <Beldar> optiwork, proprietary drivers are not suggested in general, are starting to get a glimpse of the difficulties that need these details?
[09:04] <Beldar> you*
[09:05] <optiwork> Beldar, Well, what details do you need?
[09:05] <Beldar> optiwork, I can't help here, but piece by piece the exact problem would be the channel norm, not general statements.
[09:07] <interweb> Is there something like Arch Users Repository for ubuntu ?
[09:07] <Teozac> i think i managed to add the repo and install the program, but how do i find it?
[09:07] <Beldar> interweb, There are ubuntu repos.
[09:07] <optiwork> The exact problem is that since the nVidia card is not listed as a VGA device (Which is the norm for Optimus) - Ubuntu has no idea what it is. Infact, lspci -v says just that about it (unknown). Therefore, nVidia drivers lead to a black screen after reboot, which means that I can't use my dedicated graphics card for 3D support in Linux. I'd like to resolve this
[09:07] <Beldar> Teozac, what repo what program?
[09:08] <Teozac> https://launchpad.net/~nesthib/+archive/weechat-stable
[09:08] <Beldar> Teozac,  syn
[09:08] <glitsj16> !ppa | interweb
[09:08] <brontosaurusrex> Teozac, in terminal type wee and tab ?
[09:09] <Beldar> Teozac, weechat is in the ubuntu repos
[09:09] <brontosaurusrex> Teozac, however weechat should be in default repos, no?
[09:09] <Teozac> didnt know that
[09:09] <Teozac> however, thanks for the help
[09:09] <Teozac> ive never used ubuntu or any kind of linux before
[09:09] <Teozac> maybe thats obvious >(
[09:09] <Teozac> :)
[09:10] <Beldar> Teozac, No biggie, you will get the hang of it.
[09:10] <Teozac> bye
[09:11] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: so #kubuntu found an answer for me...  http://i.imgur.com/aI0i5PY.png
[09:11] <optiwork> Actually, I guess I should say that the exact problem is that the nVidia graphics card isn't being used, and that the packages in the Ubuntu repo give me a black screen on reboot.
[09:12] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: sadly, it looks like it found every package in the system :(
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: but that might be requiring >= a lower version or not specifying a specific version. a ppa-purge should bring it back to a stable state
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: if you can. image the drive. then there's no harm in testing
[09:14] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'm not 100% positive, but it seems to be able to specify a specific version
[09:15] <chamunks> How do I figure out where ZNC is stored when apt-get installs it.
[09:15] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'm nervous about imaging.... seems like a lot of potential for failure
[09:15] <chamunks> I'd like to attempt to modify the web panel to some extent.
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: clonezilla is prob the easiest way of imaging
[09:15] <Beldar> +1 clonezilla
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: dpkg -L <packagename>
[09:16] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I've looked at it... it's fraught with peril
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: practive on a virtual machine :P
[09:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: you have to know what you're doing with that thing.  Too easy to mess up.
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> practice*
[09:17] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: that's an interesting idea....  one that makes my head spin at the moment... not sure how I'd practice it
[09:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I get the VM part... I don't get the cloning part
[09:18] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: I'd need a second disk right?
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: install ubuntu to a vm. image it. restore the image to another vm. easiest way of practicing
[09:18] <apb1963> interesting
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: yup. you store the image on another drive
[09:19] <apb1963> interesting
[09:19] <chamunks> ty HiddenDjinn
[09:19] <chamunks> sorry HiddenDjinn wrong highlight.
[09:19] <chamunks> thanks hitsujiTMO
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: np
[09:20] <Rory> Can I get wget to write to file foo (like -O foo option) but not if it's, say, a 404? Currently it just writes an empty file
[09:21] <Guest15747> any takers on Duplicate Sources.list entries?
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> Rory: afaik no, bur it returns non 0 on status other than 200 so: wget -O somefile.html http://example.com/ || rm somefile.html
[09:23] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: ha I like it!
[09:29] <chamunks> hitsujiTMO, apparently it was compiled from source sadly.
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: the interface?
[09:29] <chamunks> would you happen to know how I would decipher where its located that way?
[09:30] <chamunks> ZNC the irc bouncer thing http://irc.nixium.com:5500
[09:30] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the thoughts....  i'll have to look into it.... it may be just the ticket
[09:30] <chamunks> I want to kind of put in some kind of TOS on it.
[09:30]  * apb1963 says good night
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: not sure. it depends on if its generated or what
[09:33] <chamunks> pardon?
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: the inerface html
[09:34] <Bear10> Is anyone familiar with grep and regex? I'm trying to run this: grep --exclude-dir={".svn",".git"} --exclude="files.txt" -R -G "/<\?php echo ([-a-zA-Z0-9 _ \' \( \) \] \[ \$ \+ \* \/ \. \, \;]*) *\?> *€/" ./ and it's not picking up the regex
[09:34] <chamunks> its likely running out of the application.
[09:34] <Bear10> chamunks, is that directed at me?
[09:35] <chamunks> sorry no Bear10
[09:35] <Bear10> ah ok np
[09:35] <chamunks> it was directed at hitsujiTMO
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> chamunks: if thats the case you'd have dive into the c code, which ain't easy
[09:35] <chamunks> Oh dear
[09:40] <witheld> I'm looking in /etc/update-motd.d/ and I can't find anything to do with the "You have mail" thing
[09:40] <witheld> how is this done
[09:40] <witheld> and how do I get rid of it
[09:41] <geirha> witheld: Bash checks your mail and alerts you when you have new mail
[09:41] <witheld> geirha: bash itself is doing this? It's not running any scripts? That sounds weird
[09:42] <geirha> witheld: man bash  and search for MAIL (all uppercase)
[09:43] <geirha> witheld: And then see what's set currently with:  declare -p _ "${!MAIL@}"
[09:44] <ericP> nvidia-setting broke for me yesterday. i think i'm seeing <http://askubuntu.com/questions/412181/nvidia-settings-received-an-x-window-system-error-error-was-badvalue-intege>
[09:44] <geirha> witheld: Run the mail command to read that mail. If you are the first admin user of the system, you likely get all the admin mail from cron
[09:45] <ericP> i'd like to go back a version. <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings> indicates that there's a 304.51 version out there
[09:45] <ericP> is there a way to find out what version i previously had, grab it, and when i do, should i dpkg -i -f it?
[09:47] <geirha> Bear10: what is it supposed to match?
[09:47] <Bear10> geirha, it's supposed to match any <?php echo $somevariable ?> € so i can then replace it with a transformed version
[09:49] <Bear10> it can be <?php echo $somearray['array']['value'] ?> € or any variation, but the important part is i'm trying to get the thing that follows the echo and removing the € so i can transform it to <?php echo $this->DisplayPrice->display($1); ?>
[09:50] <geirha> Bear10: try starting with a simpler regex:  find . \( -name .svn -o -name .git \) -prune -o -type f ! -name "files.txt" -exec grep '<? echo.*\€' {} +
[09:50] <geirha> Bear10: It'll probably give some false positives, but keep adding bits to the regex until it matches only the lines you want
[09:50] <Bear10> well the grep works fine it's my specfiic syntax especially the ([-a-zA-Z0-9 _ \' \( \) \] \[ \$ \+ \* \/ \. \, \;]*)
[09:50] <Bear10> specifically
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> Bear10: might be easier to perform such a match in python. grep can be rather awful for complex regexes
[09:50] <Bear10> when i substitute taht with .*
[09:50] <Bear10> it works
[09:51] <geirha> Bear10: Well yes, grep won't like that regex
[09:53] <geirha> Bear10: You're telling grep to use basic regular epxressions, but you're feeding it something that looks more like extended regular expressions, and with a bunch of backslashes, which may give undefined behavior
[09:53] <Bear10> but isnt -E telling it to use extended/
[09:53] <geirha> Bear10: I don't see any -E
[09:54] <Bear10> well i changed the -G to -E
[09:54] <Bear10> still
[09:55] <geirha> Bear10: well [\[] will match a \ or a [, so all your backslashes between [...] are pointless
[09:57] <geirha> Bear10: it also means that \] will escape the ] from closing the [...]
[09:57] <geirha> *will not
[09:57] <Bear10> not sure i follow, all my [ and ] are backslashed within the [...]
[09:57] <Bear10> i want those
[09:58] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:58] <NictraSavios> Hello, what mount options should I used in /etc/fstab for ntfs partitions to ensure that no other users can read/write/execute (besides me and root), and is there a way to make executing files possible on an ntfs partition without making all files executable?
[09:58] <cristian_c> I've tried to create a symbolic link
[09:58] <cristian_c> ln −s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/mouse