[00:00] <devral> marcus: what model C2D do you have?
[00:00] <guitar> where do i download the manual...?
[00:00] <qin> guitar: What do you intend use ubuntu most (apart of browsing and irc)?
[00:00] <klown> westz, did you check the compiz preferences?
[00:00] <codex84> wine keep crashing,"program error"
[00:00] <westz> marcus, if your comp came with 4gb of ram, it's likely x64
[00:00] <marcus> devral: it is a t6400 at 2ghz
[00:00] <KM0201> guitar: did you read the link that ubottu gave you?
[00:00] <guitar> no...i hope to use it indefinitly
[00:00] <KM0201> !manual | guitar why don't you try clicking the link
[00:00] <westz> klown,  yeah, but compiz isnt controlling my wallpaper
[00:00] <guitar> just did...sorry
[00:01] <Medjai> How can i report a bug with out using "ubuntu-bug". My issue is that my sony vaio's ambient light sensor isn't being used at all. This is an issue since my backlit keyboard stays on with every keystroke and it kills my battery when it's not needed. Also screen backlight is reacting with the ambient light sensor as well
[00:01] <qin> westz: I think it does, try to run compiz from term to see.
[00:01] <devral> marcus: the Core 2 Duo T6400 does support 64-bit
[00:01] <Medjai> There really is no specific package, it's a driver issue
[00:02] <marcus> devral: Again could using x86 on 64 bit cpu cause odd freezing issues? Only time it seems to happen is with video over skype.
[00:02] <guitar> The file '/media/TIA7e_comp1/run.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[00:03] <guitar> this is what i got when i tried to use wine
[00:03] <westz> qin, i've disabled all "fade" options from compiz through gconf and through ccsm, it still does it. i've heard its done through gtk2 but that was for 9.04
[00:03] <marcus> devral: I am attempting to determine if it is skype or linux. I am leaning more toward it being a skype issue
[00:04] <westz> guitar, right click, properties, permissions, check "execute"
[00:04] <qin> westz: CD?
[00:04] <Medjai> No one here knows how to report a bug on launchpad with out the use of "ubuntu-bug" ???
[00:04] <westz> right click the file
[00:04] <guitar> thanks westz
[00:05] <smw> Medjai, I don't remember, it took me forever to figure out
[00:05] <guitar> westz...you get tired of answering questions??
[00:05] <Medjai> lol
[00:05] <westz> guitar, only when i'm not getting answers to mine
[00:05] <Medjai> i really need to figure this out I can barely program when i'm out in the field and my backlight is on during the day light
[00:05] <smw> Medjai, in some doc somewhere there is a parameter you add to the get request to get a real webpage
[00:05] <Medjai> hmm
[00:05] <Medjai> maybe i should type ubuntu-bug --help
[00:05] <Medjai> lol
[00:05] <Oer> Medjai, do you have a F11 ?
[00:06] <Medjai> no i did see that google group though
[00:06] <Medjai> my laptop is in the FX series
[00:06] <Medjai> besides
[00:06] <Medjai> i was going to try this patch
[00:06] <guitar> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "run.exe": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[00:06] <Medjai> but it's only on a plain linux kernel
[00:06] <qin> guitar: " minutes
[00:06] <Medjai> meaning i'd lose all the ubuntu patches
[00:06] <qin> 2
[00:06] <Medjai> or am i wrong Oer?
[00:07] <guitar> qin??
[00:07] <rafaht> hello
[00:07] <westz> guitar, you'll have to copy the files to a local directory (on your drive instead of the CD) then make them executable and run from there
[00:07] <guitar> sup rafaht
[00:07] <guitar> thanks wertz...i'll be back in a min
[00:08] <rafaht> i have a problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/636543/ and i try reinstall grub, but not resolved... someone can send me a light?
[00:08] <rafaht> this problem appears on boot
[00:08] <KM0201> rafaht: after you choose ubuntu from grub?
[00:08] <sruf> hello, when i resume my computer from suspend, the screen is black a majority of the time
[00:09] <ZBuffered> LOL I fixed my apache problem -- two comments in my .htaccess file were causing the 5 second delay.  .htaccess is so stupid.
[00:09] <ZBuffered> Engage three day weekend!
[00:09] <marcus> The only other thing I need to solve is my unrecognized bluetooth...
[00:10] <westz> marcus, have you tried using a different manager?
[00:10] <rafaht> km0201, yes, and i try to init the ubuntu with recovery mode inm grub list and don't init too... i try init with other kernels, but i don't have sucess too
[00:10] <marcus> westz: I do not understand the question?
[00:10] <westz> also, is it a dongle or integrated?
[00:10] <KM0201> rafaht: well.. if grub is showing options.. i'm not really sure why reinstalling grub would fix the problem.
[00:10] <marcus> westz its integrated.
[00:10] <Oer> Medjai, i'm not sure that patch works for al the F series..
[00:11] <Medjai> Did you have an F series that you tried it on?
[00:11] <rafaht> hmm, reinstall the grub is a attempt solution  provided from #ubuntu-br .
[00:11] <westz> marcus, yoju probably have a hardware switch. is there a key for it? (probably an FN key)
[00:11] <rafaht> km0201 so... how i resolve this problem? you know?
[00:11] <Medjai> Oer, did you have an F series that you tried the patch on?
[00:11] <KM0201> rafaht: now that i don't know, but it doesn't appear grub related at all...
[00:11] <marcus> westz: Any hints on what it would look like for an icon?
[00:12] <sruf> does anyone know how to fix the suspend black screen issue on 11.04?
[00:12] <marcus> westz: But the light is on at the bottom.
[00:12] <Oer> Medjai, nope
[00:12] <rafaht> km0201 hmm. i find this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9072878 in my search, probably the problem appears is in fstab, but i don't understand what i can make to try to resolve this.
[00:13] <westz> marcus, try using a different bluetooth manager. there are a few in the repos
[00:13] <marcus> westz: Okay. Will do
[00:13] <KM0201> rafaht: had you made attempts to change fstab?
[00:13] <KM0201> if not.. i seriously doubt thats the issue.
[00:13] <westz> marcus, it'd look like that http://www.snowshack.com/images/brandlogos/bluetooth_logo.gif
[00:14] <westz> and they're often on the f# keys
[00:14] <guitar> ok...in wine, the install app goes as far as to install office 2007 with cd...it will not recognize office 2010, how can i get it to?? anybody
[00:14] <rafaht> km0201, i attempt to chance the fstab, but doesnj't works, but i don't understand if i make the correct choice.
[00:15] <marcus> westz: thanks
[00:15] <KM0201> rafaht: what i mean, is did you try to modify fstab, prior to having this problem.
[00:15] <westz> guitar, dont bother with microsoft office, your openoffice/libreoffice can open any of your office files
[00:15] <edbian> guitar: Look it up on winehq.com
[00:15] <KM0201> if you didn't, then it's unlikely fstab just mysteriously changed
[00:15] <claviusmond> what are the dangers of installing an unstable dev file?
[00:15] <claviusmond> deb
[00:15] <claviusmond> and folder
[00:16] <westz> guitar, but if you absolutely must have microsuck, edbian's link is where you wanna be
[00:16] <KM0201> claviusmond: well, could be anything from the program not working, to bricking your system
[00:16] <guitar> it's not a choice for me westz
[00:16] <westz> guitar, why?
[00:16] <rafaht> km0201, no, after this problem my battery is finished and i forget to put this in electricf network... and i make this and init the notebook...
[00:16] <guitar> i have to use office 2010 for school projects
[00:16] <edbian> guitar: Have you seen their online thing?
[00:17] <guitar> edbian...i have seen almost nothing...i am new to this
[00:17] <westz> guitar, like i said, openoffice and libreoffice are cross compatible with microsoft office
[00:17] <KM0201> guitar: you should have set up a traditional dual boot system...
[00:17] <rafaht> i have a other problem, that this is resolved with a verify with the gparted... post this problem, i have the actually problem
[00:17] <rafaht> my english is very bad, sorry
[00:17] <agu10^> you are very bad
[00:17] <guitar> km....i did, and failed miserably
[00:17] <edbian> guitar: Using open office you can create ms office formats like .doc and .ppt and nobody will be the wiser.  Of course openoffice impress is not as fancy as MS powerpoint
[00:17] <guitar> overwrote my system
[00:17] <marcus> westz: it says I am missing the bluez dameon
[00:17] <edbian> guitar: ouch.  :(
[00:17] <KM0201> guitar: i don't really see how thats possible, or you were installing w/ your eyes closed... the GUI installer makes pretty clear what it is doing.. but ok.
[00:18] <marcus> I can not find it
[00:18] <guitar> it has to be docx
[00:18] <engammalsko> What's wrong with this code? I guess alot... http://pastie.org/2152304
[00:18] <edbian> guitar: Yeah you can make those
[00:18] <guitar> ouch km
[00:18] <westz> marcus, install the bluez daemon, guitar, you chose the wrong thing when installing. dont you have your windows cd?
[00:18] <guitar> really
[00:18] <guitar> ok
[00:18] <guitar> i'll try that to...seems i'm trying everything
[00:19] <edbian> guitar: I use only libre-office for all my assignments.
[00:19] <edbian> guitar: Also, this: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/
[00:19] <edbian> guitar: It's look google docs but MS office
[00:19] <westz> libreoffic e will save as docx. just checked
[00:20] <guitar> thanks ed
[00:20] <edbian> guitar: don't guess my name!
[00:21] <guitar> km...i did the dual boot, and then tried to uninstall ubuntu, deleted the partition, but then you know the drill....the xp boot seq was gone
[00:21] <westz> edbian, lol
[00:21] <guitar> ed...it's short for edbian i meant :)
[00:21] <edbian> guitar: Why did you purge ubuntu?
[00:21] <edbian> guitar: You guessed right
[00:21] <westz> guitar, you just needed to reinstall/fix the windows bootloader
[00:21] <guitar> the only pc i have intertnet access to is at work
[00:22] <guitar> i'm a noobie
[00:22] <westz> guitar, obviously
[00:22] <marcus> westz: i tried bluetoothd -u and installed bluez and still notta. :/
[00:22] <guitar> oops...i mean NOOBIE
[00:22] <edbian> !noob
[00:22] <edbian> We don't say those here
[00:22] <guitar> wow wes, you're actually nice
[00:22] <TheFuzzball> I'm sure I've heard rtfm here :)
[00:23] <westz> marcus, google a fix?
[00:23] <TheFuzzball> Or maybe that was #linux...
[00:23] <guitar> ubottu?
[00:23] <westz> guitar, ubottu is the channel's bot. it answers questions and does this
[00:23] <westz> !ping
[00:23] <qin> TheFuzzball: Do you want me to check logs?
[00:23] <edbian> melvin...
[00:23] <marcus> Im wondering if I should restart gnome
[00:23] <westz> marcus, worth trying
[00:23] <TheFuzzball> qin: A quick grep wouldn't hurt :P
[00:23] <marcus> westz: thanks for your help
[00:24] <guitar> oh...i was gonna ask what is wrong with the other n word...the one that ends in oob
[00:24] <guitar> oobi
[00:25] <guitar> brb
[00:25] <edbian> guitar: It's just has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[00:25] <edbian> It's the cyber bullying
[00:25] <guitar> ha
[00:25] <qin> guitar: Thats support channel, so obviously some people do not know things other does, no need for branding.
[00:25] <guitar> ok...i feel less inferior now
[00:25] <guitar> :)
[00:27] <westz> you wont get in trouble for just saying noob. it's a word. but the people in here might yell at you for calling someone a noob or getting angry
[00:28] <guitar> hey wes
[00:28] <westz> ya
[00:28] <guitar> ready for the next ?
[00:28] <shockrates> hey
[00:28] <shockrates> i get this error
[00:28] <shockrates> ./pSX: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib32/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_datalist_get_data
[00:28] <shockrates> how to fix it?
[00:28] <qin> guitar: Try: wes<TAB>
[00:28] <FloodBot1> shockrates: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <guitar> Archive:  /home/dave/Documents/cd rom/run.exe
[00:28] <guitar> [/home/dave/Documents/cd rom/run.exe]
[00:28] <guitar>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[00:28] <guitar>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[00:28] <guitar>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[00:28] <guitar>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[00:28] <FloodBot1> guitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <westz> DOUBLEFLOOD
[00:29] <edbian> ha
[00:29] <guitar> oops
[00:29] <guitar> really didn't see that coming
[00:29] <westz> guitar, you're trying to just double click the exe. you have to open it with wine (.exe's open with archive manager by default)
[00:30] <westz> guitar, also, use pastebin for erros and post a link
[00:30] <guitar> ok....brb
[00:30] <shockrates> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[00:31] <guitar> paste bin?
[00:31] <edbian> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:32] <guitar> i'll try that ed...brb
[00:32] <qin> guitar: In terminal: firefox `echo foo | pastebinit`
[00:33] <guitar> qin...forgive me....but i'm not even sure where the terminal is or what to do when i find it
[00:33] <edbian> again with the name...
[00:34] <guitar> edbian...sorry
[00:34] <qin> guitar: Alt-F2 (key combo), gnome-terminal (program to run)
[00:34] <edbian> guitar: It's ok
[00:35] <shockrates> !find libxml2.so.2
[00:35] <guitar> ok...did the terminal
[00:35] <qin> guitar: firefox `echo foo | pastebinit`
[00:35] <qin> guitar: In terminal, also ` is not '
[00:36] <guitar> qin...tried
[00:37] <guitar> let me try again
[00:37] <westz> later people, battery's dying and i'm at mcdonalds XD
[00:37] <guitar> thanks westz
[00:38] <edbian> guitar: I have returned
[00:38] <guitar> qin...i pasted the echo foo
[00:38] <guitar> nothing happened
[00:38] <guitar> edbian
[00:38] <guitar> howdy
[00:38] <edbian> guitar: hahah
[00:38] <edbian> good to know
[00:39] <guitar> ok...edbian...how do i use the pastebin thing
[00:39] <edbian> guitar: Go to paste.ubuntu.com  put stuff there, hit submit, give us the link.
[00:39] <guitar> i opened the terminal...thanks to qin...but that's about it
[00:39] <edbian> guitar: Then we can see what you tirped
[00:40] <guitar> ok
[00:40] <brightspark> I get a message on login saying something to the effect of 'could not update ICEauthority file'.  How can I stop this?
[00:41] <shockrates> hey
[00:41] <shockrates> i get this
[00:41] <shockrates> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib32/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_datalist_get_data
[00:41] <shockrates> how can i fixi t?
[00:41] <FloodBot1> shockrates: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <edbian> brightspark: who owns your .ICEauthority file?
[00:42] <guitar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636630/plain/
[00:42] <guitar> hey...i did it :)
[00:42]  * edbian is proud
[00:43] <psilvao> hi!, a fast question ... i'm working with 11.04 ubuntu version, but i can't find /system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options by gconf-editor, where i can see this information? thanks in advance
[00:43] <guitar> sup pooky
[00:43] <brightspark> edbian, i do.  permission is rw for me and r for all others
[00:44] <edbian> brightspark: Not that I don't believe you but... Can I see the output of ls -l   on it?
[00:44] <shockrates> !find libxml2.so.2
[00:44] <guitar> i gotta go for now
[00:44] <guitar> thanks edbian
[00:44] <guitar> later all
[00:44] <brightspark> $ ls -lh .ICEauthority           -rw-r--r-- 1 kyle kyle 0 2011-07-01 19:30 .ICEauthority
[00:44] <edbian> cya around
[00:44] <edbian> You're kyle ?
[00:45] <brightspark> yeah
[00:45] <psilvao> hi!, a fast question ... i'm working with 11.04 ubuntu version, but i can't find /system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options by gconf-editor, where i can see this information? thanks in advance
[00:45] <edbian> brightspark: Move it mv .ICEauthority .somethingElse
[00:45] <edbian> brightspark: and try to log in again
[00:46] <brightspark> mv: cannot move `.ICEauthority' to `.somethingElse': Permission denied
[00:46] <ader10> How do I properly show unicode in vim? http://i52.tinypic.com/28slxk8.png Please highlight if you respond.
[00:46] <edbian> brightspark: suod mv .ICEauthority .somethingElse
[00:46] <brightspark> by the way it is a zero-byte file
[00:47] <edbian> brightspark: I don't really know much about it.  Maybe it's supposed to be 0 bytes (I doubt it).  I just read if you delete it it will work again
[00:47] <brightspark> okay I will be back when I log in.
[00:47] <edbian> sure
[00:49] <brightspark_> edbian, no improvement
[00:49] <edbian> brightspark_: same error?
[00:49] <edbian> brightspark_: Did .ICEauthority truely move?
[00:49] <brightspark_> yes
[00:49] <psilvao> edbian where i can find vfat mount_options in 11.04?
[00:49] <brightspark_> and i'll check on the second question
[00:50] <astraljava> If you own a file, and you have write permissions on it, and still get a permission denied error, something's b0rked.
[00:50] <edbian> psilvao: I have no idea
[00:50] <psilvao> :-(
[00:50] <psilvao> ops
[00:50] <edbian> brightspark_: Perhaps the permissions of the folder are off?
[00:50] <astraljava> edbian: That one sits in your $HOME
[00:50] <brightspark_> it truly moved.  it's my home directory
[00:51] <edbian> astraljava: I know
[00:51] <edbian> brightspark_: Perhaps your home folder has incorrect permissions?
[00:51] <vandemar> where's a good place to put a background tcpdump command in startup scripts so that it'll capture what happens when the ethernet devices are enabled?  afaict /etc/rc.local runs last in the boot sequence, which is too late
[00:52] <brightspark_> $ ls -lh /home       total 4.0K       drwxr-xr-x 101 1016 1016 4.0K 2011-07-01 19:46 kyle
[00:52] <edbian> brightspark_: why is it 1016 and not kyle ?
[00:52] <edbian> what is your uid ?
[00:53] <qin> brightspark_: /home/kyle
[00:53] <edbian> usually you get UIDs when the system doesn't have a user with that number
[00:53] <brightspark_> $ echo $UID      1000
[00:53] <qin> hm, Did you copy it form another system?
[00:54] <edbian> You are user 1000 and your home folder is owned by 1016
[00:54] <edbian> That is the problem
[00:54] <brightspark_> qin, no
[00:54] <vandemar> did you reinstall over an existing system?
[00:54] <vandemar> chown -R kyle:users ~kyle
[00:54] <edbian> brightspark_: who cares.  sudo chown -R kyle:kyle /home/kyle
[00:54] <edbian> vandemar: kyle:users   ?
[00:55] <brightspark_> vandemar, it is a maverick upgrade of lucid install
[00:55] <cedriczg> Hi there
[00:55] <edbian> cedriczg: hello
[00:55] <brightspark_> sudo chown -R kyle:kyle /home/kyle     chown: cannot access `/home/kyle/.gvfs': Permission denied
[00:55] <qin> vandemar: It would be easier to delay networking
[00:56] <edbian> brightspark_: How is root not allowed?  Anyway, it did the rest.  Try to log in again.
[00:56] <ruggon> chown -R `whoami` ~
[00:56] <brightspark_> okay back in a minute
[00:57] <qin> vandemar: And since Ubuntu uses network-manager (it is also a service) you can play with it own script.
[00:57] <brightspark> okay, problem fixed.  thanks edbian!
[00:58] <edbian> brightspark: sure
[00:59] <llayin> when i open synaptic, i get the following error: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en%5fUS E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[00:59] <edbian> llayin: Just delete all your lists.  sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[00:59] <moonlighttravele> hey
[00:59] <edbian> llayin: sudo apt-get update after that to get good ones
[00:59] <edbian> moonlighttravele: hello
[01:00] <Alucard-0> hi
[01:00] <solayagim> edbian, i have to say that you have a great nickname it's very inspiring :)
[01:00] <edbian> solayagim: haha, thanks :)
[01:00] <edbian> I wish I had come up with it by myself!
[01:01] <Osmodivs> Hello, I have Ubuntu 11.04 64bits. I was trying to make a .deb file for my distro but I got this message error. I do not know about programing, so can anyone here tell me what's wrong with this and if there is a solution, please?   http://pastebin.com/6JTEQ2yi
[01:01] <moonlighttravele> ok whats this place all cray and sssss
[01:01] <edbian> Osmodivs: If you are not a programmer why are you making a debian package?
[01:01] <edbian> moonlighttravele: ?
[01:01] <llayin> edbian, thank you
[01:01] <edbian> llayin: fixed it?
[01:02] <llayin> edbian, yep
[01:02] <Osmodivs> edbian, I want to have it as part of APT-onCD, so I  can back it up
[01:02] <edbian> llayin: yay! \o/
[01:02] <llayin> :)
[01:02] <moonlighttravele> nothing just findling around
[01:02] <josh__> hm
[01:02] <edbian> Osmodivs: Mmm, IDK then
[01:02] <josh__> i dont think i logged in right
[01:02] <edbian> moonlighttravele: :)
[01:02] <edbian> josh__: You're talking to us
[01:02] <solayagim> :))
[01:02] <llayin> edbian, do you know how to downgrade the kernel on 11.04?
[01:03] <edbian> llayin: I never have done it
[01:03] <Osmodivs> edbian, I thought so...
[01:03] <edbian> :(
[01:03] <josh__> :S i registered my nick joshlegs the other day
[01:03] <josh__> but dont know how to log in with it now ...
[01:03] <llayin> edbian, ok no worries
[01:03] <josh__> can someone tell me how to log in properly? :S
[01:04] <moonlighttravele> i need to get me in other chanel with europian girls :) he he
[01:04] <edbian> Osmodivs: You know my horrible secret.  I have never downgraded a kernel...
[01:04] <qin> josh__: /nick joshleg /msg nickserv identify password
[01:04] <Gskellig> can someone help me fix the ubuntu theme? For some reason a bunch of stuff turned white (terminal background, taskbar) and my icons changed
[01:04] <joshlegs> great :D thanks qin
[01:04] <Gskellig> it's happened TWICE now automatically
[01:04] <Alucard-0> i have a problem i cant conect to msn messencer since i updated  ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10
[01:04] <Gskellig> I can't fix it
[01:05] <joshlegs> i was trying the /msg nickserv identify [password] .. i just didnt change my nick first :D
[01:05] <moonlighttravele> #cyprus
[01:05] <KM0201> Alucard-0: using?... pidgin or what?
[01:05] <qin> joshlegs: Oh, you got legs, neat!
[01:05] <joshlegs> lol yup its a joke i made up :S
[01:05] <devral> whenever i try to execute -screen-, it segfaults - how do i troubleshoot/fix? http://pastebin.com/mPb0d5aS
[01:05] <moonlighttravele> ok that dint work
[01:05] <Alucard-0> i have tried with many programs
[01:06] <KM0201> ..
[01:06] <joshlegs> whats the offtopic channel?
[01:06] <edbian> !ot
[01:06] <joshlegs> ohh yeah i forgot the hashtag
[01:06] <KM0201> Alucard-0: well, i'm on MSN right now w/o issue..  and if it's happening to you w/ multiple programs, then i'd suggest the problem is something you're doing (wrong username password?)
[01:07] <SBO> ciao
[01:07] <moonlighttravele> hey guys how do join  other chanels ?
[01:07] <Alucard-0> ...
[01:08] <joshlegs> moonlight, type /join
[01:08] <joshlegs> followed by a space
[01:08] <edbian> moonlighttravele: /join #channelName
[01:08] <qin> moonlighttravele: /join #channel
[01:08] <joshlegs> then #[channel]
[01:08] <KM0201> Alucard-0: go to meebo.com  and see if you can sign on to your live account
[01:08] <SBO> ciao
[01:08] <Alucard-0> ok
[01:08] <SBO> ciao babalu
[01:08] <SBO> no one is italian?
[01:09] <qin> !it | SBO
[01:09] <KM0201> SBO: i think we all know what ciao means, i just don't understand why you keep saying it
[01:09] <cedriczg> Hi edbian. Do you use empathy as your chat program?
[01:09] <edbian> cedriczg: I use xchat
[01:09] <joshlegs> so like, how long should an install of ubuntu 11.04 from cd take ? .... i have 10.04 now
[01:09] <edbian> cedriczg: I also use Debian.  But don't tell anybody.
[01:09] <nhr> Hi, how do I add custom shortcuts to launcher in unity?
[01:10] <mer_ge> what's the easiest way of making PPAs update completely automatically (like ubuntu's security updates)?
[01:10] <edbian> joshlegs: Do you have a separate /home ?
[01:10] <moonlighttravele> ok
[01:10] <moonlighttravele> thanks for the tip
[01:10] <joshlegs> hmmm. not sure edbian .... how can i tell?
[01:10] <cedriczg> edbian, hehe. Well maybe you may know how I can make offline favourite users not to appear on the list on empathy
[01:10] <joshlegs> (im still getting into linux and dont remember how to check all this stuf ...)
[01:10] <SBO> thanks ubottu
[01:10] <moonlighttravele> but i dint got i what i wanted
[01:11] <qin> joshlegs: df -h
[01:11] <edbian> joshlegs: If you do not have a separate /home and you install using the CD you will lose all your personal data.  You can upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04  It takes about 1 hour each step
[01:11] <Alucard-0> it works
[01:11] <Alucard-0> thanks
[01:11] <edbian> joshlegs: df -h will tell you if you have a separate /home partition
[01:11] <KM0201> Alucard-0: ok, so we know yoru username/password is correct
[01:11] <KM0201> what version of Pidgin have you tried
[01:11] <KM0201> ?
[01:12] <joshlegs> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[01:12] <joshlegs> /dev/sda5             178G  5.9G  163G   4% /
[01:12] <joshlegs> none                  2.0G  332K  2.0G   1% /dev
[01:12] <joshlegs> none                  2.0G  1.2M  2.0G   1% /dev/shm
[01:12] <joshlegs> none                  2.0G  296K  2.0G   1% /var/run
[01:12] <FloodBot1> joshlegs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <joshlegs> none                  2.0G     0  2.0G   0% /var/lock
[01:12] <edbian> o gosh
[01:12]  * KM0201 sighs
[01:12] <KM0201> sometimes, i think people should just be permabanned when they are that dense
[01:12] <Alucard-0> i wil try to find the reason of the problem in emesene, pidgin , amsn etc...
[01:12] <edbian> joshlegs: use paste.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <joshlegs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636645/
[01:12] <joshlegs> :P sorry
[01:12] <edbian> that's ok
[01:12] <edbian> joshlegs: You do not have a separate /home
[01:13] <qin> joshlegs: in here: /exec -o df -h | grep home
[01:13] <edbian> joshlegs: Is it clear how I know that?
[01:13] <joshlegs> no :(
[01:13] <joshlegs> edbian im not sure how ou know that
[01:13] <koppe> joshlegs: If you got a line ending with /home , then you got a separate home... else you don't
[01:13] <cedriczg> hi nhr, what do you mean by custom shortcuts?
[01:13] <joshlegs> ok
[01:13] <edbian> joshlegs: You don't have anything in there called /home   You do have something called /  (which is your root folder) which is everything in your case
[01:13] <mercvrivs> where can I find the databases for fortune?
[01:14] <joshlegs> so its the absence of that line that means it :P
[01:14] <edbian> joshlegs: yes
[01:14] <joshlegs> ebian how come it takes longer if you don't have a /home partition?
[01:14] <nhr> I want to have my own shortcuts - e.g. eclipse in the launcher
[01:14] <mercvrivs> I mean, where they are installed?
[01:14] <edbian> joshlegs: Anyway you should upgrade instead of using a cd
[01:14] <nhr> I downloaded latest eclipse and want to have shortcut to it in the launcher
[01:14] <joshlegs> ok. ... i started using the cd to upgrade ... and ubuntu basically didnt do anything even after setting for 24 hours ....
[01:14] <ader10> How do I properly show unicode in vim? http://i52.tinypic.com/28slxk8.png Please highlight if you respond.
[01:14] <joshlegs> i did the cardinal rule of computer junk: i just powered my pc off :S :S lol
[01:15] <mercvrivs> Does anybody knows in which directory are installed the fortune databases?
[01:15] <edbian> joshlegs: Does you ubuntu install on the HDD still work?
[01:15] <joshlegs> yeah :S
[01:15] <joshlegs> i'm on it now
[01:15] <cedriczg> nhr, well on unity that should be simple. Just launch eclipse and then right click on the icon of seidebar and select "keep laucher"
[01:15] <joshlegs> ... and when i booted up, there didnt seem to be any additional options on the boot screen
[01:15] <edbian> joshlegs: cat /etc/issue    what version do you have?
[01:15] <joshlegs> (i can also boot an older version of ubuntu)
[01:16] <joshlegs> edbian i have 10.04 now
[01:16] <nhr> cedriczg: tried that
[01:16] <moonlighttravele> where is europe
[01:16] <nhr> Does not work correctly, application does not launch again and no icons
[01:16] <joshlegs> 10.04.2 LTS
[01:16] <edbian> joshlegs: System -> Admin -> Software sources.  Change the drop down from LTS only to normal releases.
[01:16] <moonlighttravele> is this the us ?
[01:16] <edbian> joshlegs: Then go to System -> Admin -> Update Manager   and there should be a button to upgrade to 10.10
[01:16] <joshlegs> ahhh ok :)
[01:16] <Monotoko> moonlighttravele, I'm pretty sure this is the internet
[01:16] <joshlegs> ill do that next time i try it then
[01:17] <joshlegs> i hear 10.10 is pretty good too
[01:17] <joshlegs> and good for newbies like me because it's more stable?
[01:17] <cedriczg> nhr, what about searching for the application from dash and then drag it to sidebar?
[01:17] <Monotoko> having a little bit of an issue...when I shut down, my mouse light stays on...how can I completely shut off power to it?
[01:17] <moonlighttravele> okj i know that
[01:17] <joshlegs> edbian, after i upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.04 ... won't i have extra kernels i'll need to remove?
[01:18] <moonlighttravele> but what nationalty are you people ?
[01:18] <edbian> joshlegs: I think so?  IDK for sure.  They're just packages you can remove them easily.
[01:18] <nhr> cedriczg: Will it work for "non installed" applications? Latest eclipse installation is just sitting in my home directory
[01:18] <Monotoko> moonlighttravele, I'm from the UK...I'm pretty sure there will be many people from different countries in here
[01:18] <astraljava> Monotoko: USB mouse? Some (if not all) USB ports give out some power even when the system is shutdown.
[01:18] <koppe> I somehow added a remote printer so that when I select it in the Cups' web-interface, I get sent to the Cups-interface on the remote computer.  I thus can't remove it locally!
[01:18] <nhr> cedriczg:Dash does not even show eclipse
[01:19] <joshlegs> edbian, ok. ill need to do that so my boot list won't be really long after upgrading
[01:19] <moonlighttravele> ok thats fine and all i love but i wouid like to speak in cyprus
[01:19] <Monotoko> astraljava, yeah I thought that...the light bugs me while I sleep so I have to unplug it, was just wondering if there was a way to just shut off the power to it ^_^
[01:19] <koppe> I think I may have added it as http-protocol...  Anyway, which file would such a link be in my local computer?
[01:19] <joshlegs> gracias for the help edbian :)
[01:19] <edbian> joshlegs: Sure.  Look at the list when you boot.  Write down which ones you wanna remove.  (leave at least one) and then just search those numbers in synaptic and remove those package
[01:19] <edbian> joshlegs: sure
[01:19] <joshlegs> oooh that's pretty easy :o i thought it was going to be more difficult
[01:19] <Monotoko> moonlighttravele, I'm pretty sure there is a Turkish or a Greek room for your language?
[01:20] <cedriczg> nhr, if you don't have eclipse installed you should at least see it as application to download when searching for it
[01:20] <astraljava> Monotoko: No idea what to do there, on mine the light shuts off when it goes idle. Sorry I can't be of assistance with that.
[01:20] <moonlighttravele> oooooooo  i like that
[01:20] <cedriczg> nhr, did you try to install eclipse from software center?
[01:20] <nhr> Its very old version - 3.5, now 3.7 is out after 3.6
[01:20] <nickgoodfate> moonlighttravele: there is a room for cyprus too , ubuntu-cy
[01:21] <moonlighttravele> ops uits gone late i have to get to gym thanks cu bye
[01:21] <Monotoko> nickgoodfate, thank you...wasn't sure if there was one ^_^
[01:21] <koppe> Alternatively, is there a command for replacing the config-files with the "virgin" ones from the Cups-package?  Maybe some apt or dpkg command?
[01:22] <nickgoodfate> Monotoko: Here is the full list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[01:22] <ntoombs19_> Hello everyone! I reciently installed ubuntu on an HP Mediasmart Home Server. I was having a problem with my network adapter (eth0) not being recognized so I researched it online and found that I simply need to update the driver for the adapter. My problem is that I don't know how to download and install the driver. I was hoping someone here could give me some magical command that would do this for me :)
[01:22] <Monotoko> nickgoodfate, thank you :)
[01:24] <nickgoodfate> Monotoko: you're welcome:)
[01:25] <pr0xy> is it better to install an nVidia graphics card before or after installing Ubuntu?
[01:26] <KM0201> the actual card, or the driver?.. if the card, i'd say before.
[01:26] <KM0201> but it probably doesn't really matter... unless you might have a driver installed (ATI) that could conflict w/ nvidia.
[01:26] <Monotoko> I second KM0201 :) it can be awkward to configure, if it's already in there Ubuntu will configure it for you
[01:27] <pr0xy> then how will I install the drivers?
[01:27] <pr0xy> like proprietary?
[01:27] <highlander3001> i know this is off topic but how do i get eqoa:f to work?
[01:27] <KM0201> pr0xy: you'll install them after you install your OS.. just like you do w/ Windows.. it will boot w/ a generic video driver
[01:27] <Monotoko> pr0xy, when you have installed Ubuntu you just need to go to System -> Administration -> Aditional Drivers
[01:27] <Monotoko> (not quite sure how to do it in Unity...if your installing 11.04)
[01:28] <KM0201> Monotoko: same thing, you just search for additional drivers in the search feature for applications
[01:28] <KM0201> Monotoko: it's a good chance, he won't even get unity when he first boots, and will default to gnome 2.x.. because he won't have 3D available
[01:28] <Monotoko> KM0201, thanks :) I'm on 10.04 LTS so the support I can give in Unity is limited
[01:29] <tsc_martin> Im having difficulty installing phpmyadmin (wht screen of death)  which channel do I go to for that?
[01:29] <Monotoko> tsc_martin, if you have both PHP and Apache installed, you can install it using apt-get (sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin)
[01:29] <pr0xy> should i use nomodeset?
[01:29] <KM0201> pr0xy: why woul dyou do that?
[01:30] <pr0xy> for installing with nvidia drivers?
[01:30] <tsc_martin> Monotoko  I have it installed, but am running into the wht screen of death
[01:30] <KM0201> pr0xy: stop overcomplicating this.. install your card, install Ubuntu, if the Live CD won't boot, or the install won't boot, then start looking into kernel options, etc.
[01:31] <pr0xy> okay.
[01:31] <astraljava> ntoombs19_: What adapter? Which ubuntu release? Basically you download the drivers on a computer that's online, copy it to a USB stick, insert the stick into the server, install from said USB stick.
[01:31] <Monotoko> tsc_martin, did you install libapache2-mod-php5?
[01:31] <ntoombs19_> astraljava: the server is completly headless. meaning no interface what soever
[01:32] <tsc_martin> Monotoko  yes I have
[01:33] <Monotoko> tsc_martin, can I private message you?
[01:33] <tsc_martin> Monotoko  sure
[01:35] <ntoombs19_> I'm having trouble getting my server to work with a static ip address
[01:35] <stephenh> ## export JAVA_HOME JRE ##
[01:35] <ntoombs19_> if the server has a static ip address my router can see it
[01:35] <stephenh> oops, ww
[01:35] <highlander3001> hey guys i know my question was off topic but i need help
[01:35] <ntoombs19_> i mean can't see it
[01:36] <ntoombs19_> nvm... i'll ask later
[01:36] <ntoombs19_> i can see this place is pretty busy :P
[01:37] <thesheff17> ntoombs19_: are you setting a default gateway?
[01:37] <ntoombs19_> yea
[01:37] <ntoombs19_> the whole shebang
[01:38] <thesheff17> the server ping the router...router ping the server?
[01:39] <ntoombs19_> thesheff17: i look at my attached devices in my router interface and the server doesn't show up
[01:39] <ntoombs19_> i'm also having a problem with my eth0 adapter not being recognised
[01:39] <thesheff17> I bet your router only shows DHCP clients.
[01:40] <ntoombs19_> it's a $100 router that i bought specifically to accept static and dhcp clients
[01:40] <ntoombs19_> my old router would only accept dhcp clients
[01:40] <share> hello
[01:40] <ntoombs19_> thesheff17: I believe the problem roots back to my eth0 adapter not being recognized
[01:41] <share> what is gvfsd-http and why it keeps making connections??
[01:41] <thesheff17> if you can ping the router eth0 is working fine
[01:41] <share> I just killed it
[01:41] <ntoombs19_> thesheff17: my server is compleately headless so i have to transfer the hard drive to my desktop computer to make any changes and the eht0 adapter works perfect but for me to get any sort of connection with my router when I put it back in it's home is to set the network interface to use eth1
[01:43] <thesheff17> ntoombs19_: your mac address will change between devices
[01:43] <thesheff17> causing issues
[01:43] <thesheff17> I would try to get a console/keyboard/mouse working on the server
[01:43] <ntoombs19_> thesheff17: doesn't the eth0 not working in my server due to an outdated driver cause issues too?
[01:44] <thesheff17> possible
[01:44] <ntoombs19_> thesheff17: the server is compleately headless so no posibility of interacting with the server other than through networking
[01:44] <thesheff17> sounds like a horrible server
[01:44] <ntoombs19_> which is why this is such a problem
[01:44] <ntoombs19_> it wasn't ment to run linix
[01:44] <ntoombs19_> it's a windows home server so yes it is a horrible server :)
[01:45] <share> !gvfsd
[01:45] <thesheff17> yea the network adapter may not work with linux if it was made for windows.
[01:46] <ntoombs19_> it does
[01:46] <ntoombs19_> i've done research
[01:46] <share> ntoombs19_: what's your issue
[01:46] <ntoombs19_> share: networking is my issue
[01:46] <ntoombs19_> it's always networking
[01:46] <ntoombs19_> i hate it :(
[01:46] <share> ntoombs19_: but what is the problem
[01:46] <thesheff17> you need to get a console
[01:46] <joshlegs> hey is there a way to rearrange the windows i have open in my menu? ...
[01:46] <qin> ntoombs19_: What network adapter is it?
[01:47] <joshlegs> i.e., switch my chrome app to be before the xchat app on the menu without closing one of them?
[01:47] <ntoombs19_> share: my server isn't being recognised by my router. and the network adapter eth0 isn't recognised by ubuntu. sis190/sis191
[01:47] <share> ntoombs19_: ifconfig -a
[01:47] <share> lspci
[01:48] <qin> lsmod | grep intel
[01:48] <ntoombs19_> i know, i know, ifconfig
[01:48] <ntoombs19_> that's what everyone tells me to do
[01:48] <thesheff17> he doesn't have a console
[01:48] <ntoombs19_> that just shows the loop back adapter
[01:48] <share> ntoombs19_: ifconfig -a
[01:48] <share> -a shows hidden
[01:48] <qin> ntoombs19_: jockey-text
[01:48] <share> ntoombs19_: ctrl + alt + t
[01:48] <share> :p
[01:48] <ntoombs19_> lol
[01:49] <ntoombs19_> share: i know what -a does
[01:49] <ntoombs19_> think bigger :)
[01:49] <ntoombs19_> i've tried all the simple stuff
[01:49] <ntoombs19_> this one is a hair puller
[01:49] <FloodBot1> ntoombs19_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Monotoko> question for you guys...I'm leaving for a week and need my computer to do some tests and email me every few hours with the results (I already have the test script) is there any way I can make it boot up from standby, do the tests and send the results, then go back to sleep?
[01:49] <qin> ntoombs19_: So there is no listed driver in jockey?
[01:49] <ntoombs19_> the driver is really old
[01:50] <ntoombs19_> and i don't know how to use jockey
[01:50] <qin> ntoombs19_: man jockey-text
[01:50] <qin> ntoombs19_: Otherwise ndiswrapper
[01:50] <cedriczg> anyone can tell how to edit empathy configuration in order to avoid seeing offline favourite contacts?
[01:51] <ntoombs19_> thank you :)
[01:52] <thesheff17> ntoombs19_: if this is an important server I would just buy a pci ethernet adapter that works with linux
[01:52] <thesheff17> they are cheap.
[01:52] <vandemar> Monotoko: wake on lan, or some types of bios let you set a time to turn the computer on, but either way that's fairly hardware-specific and WOL requires something else on the LAN to wake your comptuter up
[01:52] <ntoombs19_> if i needed an important server i wouldn't have a windows home server
[01:52] <ntoombs19_> a friend gave it to me
[01:53] <qin> cedriczg: Ctrl-N
[01:53] <ntoombs19_> ok my hard drive for the server is hooked up
[01:53] <ntoombs19_> i can now type stuff
[01:53] <ntoombs19_> oh and see stuff
[01:53] <qin> cedriczg: Ctrl-H , sorry!
[01:54] <ntoombs19_> share: ifconfig -a shows the eth0 adapter in my desktop but i think that is because that driver is supported by the default drivers
[01:54] <ntoombs19_> i mean that adapter
[01:54] <PawnStar> hi.  is ubuntu easy to use yet
[01:54] <cedriczg> qin, you know that for favourite contacts hiding offline contacts does not work actually
[01:55] <vandemar> Monotoko: is there some reason you can't just leave the computer on?
[01:55] <qin> PawnStar: easier than some, harder than some
[01:55] <ntoombs19_> share: is the network setting supposed to end in a 0 or a 1?
[01:55] <ntoombs19_> in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:55] <cedriczg> qin, a bug was created for that but it appears that empathy is actually meant to work that way
[01:56] <PawnStar> is it as easy as Windows yet
[01:56] <cedriczg> qin, so I was wondering if there is any way to tweak empathy to make offline favourite contacts to not appear as well
[01:56] <w30> PawnStar, hi, easier than windows harder than vic20
[01:56] <qin> cedriczg: Well, did not know that there are favourites in empathy... maybe libpurple have some hefty plugins for it, dunno.
[01:58] <moosoft> hey guys, I am trying ot install ubuntu server on some pretty old hardware.  PIII, 512K RAM, SCSI hard disk and cd-rom.  It boots up fine but when it comes time to start installing it says it can't mount the cd
[01:58] <cedriczg> qin, yes it is a nice feature on empathy, but since the new version I don't like seeing those favourites that are offline
[01:59] <moosoft> any ideas on what I could try to get it going?
[01:59] <KM0201> cedriczg: thats one of a couple reasons i think Empathy sucks compared to pidgin
[02:01] <cedriczg> KM0201, I was trying to give a try to empathy because I like the way it displays the conversations. But since last upgrade this change does really bother me
[02:01] <qin> KM0201: What is second reason?
[02:02] <Monotoko> vandemar, I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving it on for a span of days...it gets pretty warm and crashes
[02:02] <KM0201> qin: it's a PITA to turn one account off, while leaving one on...
[02:03] <KM0201> qin: sometimes i don't want to be on my Yahoo(people i barely tolerate most of the time) but my AIM/MSN contacts are close friends/family, so i almost always have those available
[02:03] <Monotoko> KM0201, theres aMSN for msn (sudo apt-get install amsn)
[02:03] <KM0201> pidgin, it's a pretty simple process... 3rd, I think empathy's interface is absolutely awful
[02:03] <Monotoko> the one I use
[02:03] <KM0201> Monotoko: pidgin works fine w/ MSN... doesn't bother me at all.
[02:04] <dimas_> could someone help me install IDJC so i dont make a mess again with the other applications?
[02:04] <KM0201> Monotoko: he was asking why i prefer pidgin over empathy... and i was just listing a few reasons
[02:04] <Monotoko> KM0201, I see...sorry, half paying attention ^_^
[02:05] <KM0201> Monotoko: there's 1400+ people in here... happens to the best of us.. :)
[02:06] <qin> Monotoko: http://blog.gulfsoft.com/2010/05/scheduled-wakeup-in-ubuntu.html
[02:06] <dimas_> microsoft is very strong protecting hteir service when it come to instant messengers
[02:07] <dimas_> linux chatters over msn for them is too danger
[02:08] <qin> !ot > dimas_
[02:09] <gry> Is it recommended to uninstall apparmor on a home ubuntu system?
[02:09] <dimas_> could someone help install IDJC which it come with ubuntu but every time i try install it it messes the rest of my applications
[02:10] <dimas_> qin would you be so kind and help me?
[02:10] <qin> dimas_: Just put IDJS to google ;)
[02:10] <qin> dimas_: So back in 5
[02:10] <dimas_> qin is not that simple
[02:11] <dimas_> qin i had look for documentation about it even in the bibble
[02:11] <qin> dimas_: jack? whats fun! 10 minutes
[02:11] <dimas_> oke
[02:12] <szal> dimas_: define "it messes"
[02:12] <dimas_> qin you come back in ten?
[02:12] <Corey> dimas_: sudo apt-get install idjc
[02:13] <qin> dimas_: What version, Natty?
[02:13]  * szal has used IDJC in the past but didn't find it as useable as prevalent Windows programs for the task
[02:15] <dimas_> i explain...i had install ubuntu studio which it install pulseaudio and i belive also interact with jack but when i install IDJC also install a dpendency Qjackctl and then the rest of the aplications who use sound server stop working...and even IDJC dont work
[02:15] <szal> define "then"
[02:16] <dimas_> pulseaudio is working with libjack-dev and get uninstall when i install IDJC
[02:16]  * szal smells a case of inability to use JACK
[02:16] <szal> and I highly doubt that JACK uninstalls Pulse, I have it on my machine (for another program)
[02:17] <dimas_> szal IDJC install another version of jack which uninstall the dependency of pulseaudio which is libjack.dev
[02:18] <Toph2> i have a script , xxx.sh , How do I run it besides double clicking it?
[02:18] <qin> Toph2: in terminal: XXX.sh
[02:18] <noisewaterphd> on ubuntu server how do see software raids that are set up from command line?
[02:19] <vandemar> Monotoko: computers are not supposed to crash if left on.  Either your hardware is broken or your case isn't cooled well, or the computer's in a hot environment with no AC
[02:19] <Toph2> qin,,, i tried that,, it doesn't work,, even when in the folder with the script
[02:19] <qin> Toph2: bash xxx.sh
[02:19] <szal> dimas_: and you didn't answer the question yet what *buntu version you're running
[02:20] <chaddy> Toph2: ./xxx.sh when in the directory
[02:20] <dimas_> 10.04
[02:20] <qin> Toph2: or, put your script in path, echo $PATH to knoe it
[02:20] <Toph2> qin,,, that did it
[02:20] <Toph2> thanks
[02:20] <Toph2> chaddy,,, let me try
[02:20] <share> Do I need gvfsd-http ?
[02:20] <szal> hmm, to my knowledge 10.04 ships only JACK 1, so there shouldn't be a problem w/ concurring JACK versions
[02:21] <dimas_> jack1 jack2 jackd
[02:22] <Monotoko> vandemar, it's an ancient computer, from 2002...it crashes and it crashes a lot. I only use it to run cron jobs anyway
[02:22] <szal> I can only speak for Natty, where installing IDJC is not a problem -> http://www.privatepaste.com/b0af5c709e
[02:22] <Toph2> chaddy,,, yes,, worked as well
[02:22] <vandemar> Monotoko: can you get a cheap low-power embedded computer (even a wireless gateway would suffice... buffalo wifi are cheap at $65-70 and have lots of flash and ram) and run the cronjobs from that?
[02:22] <green91> toph2: ./xxx.sh
[02:23] <Toph2> qin,,, how do I add my directory to Path?
[02:23] <vandemar> Monotoko: since you got the computer, have you reapplied thermal compound and reseated the cpu cooler and gotten rid of dust
[02:24] <vandemar> Monotoko: and have you run memtest86 overnight?
[02:24] <Monotoko> vandemar, most likely...it's usually fine, it's just on a really warm day it gets too warm...and were in the middle of summer :P
[02:24] <dimas_> szal python-eyed3 is the jack package?
[02:25] <Monotoko> also the fact that I only need it for an hour out of the 180 hours in the week....179 computing hours gone to waste
[02:25] <szal> dimas_: does it say 'jack' in the name?
[02:25] <dimas_> it does in the process of installation
[02:26] <vandemar> Monotoko: is the cron stuff specific to that computer or could any computer do it without much trouble
[02:27] <vandemar> Monotoko: even if the NIC/bios supports wake on lan, you'd need another computer on the LAN to wake it up...
[02:27] <bajah> hey guys im new to Ubuntu and i came across this software by readying the Ubuntu 10.04 book, i have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop, i was wondering if anyone knows how i could place icons on my desktop. i can only send them to my desktop folder but nothing shows up on the actual desktop
[02:27] <szal> dimas_: please paste your output of 'sudo apt-get install idjc' the way I did above
[02:27] <qin> dimas_: Did you see this one: http://www.aukondk.com/blog/?p=115  ?
[02:27] <Monotoko> vandemar, I think any computer could do it...however I'm in the process of implimenting the link quin gave me which involves setting a timer
[02:27] <vandemar> Monotoko: the only other option I can think of is some sort of telephone-controlled power switch, if you have a landline
[02:28] <vandemar> Monotoko: but that would be more expensive than an embedded low-power system like a wireless gateway
[02:29] <szal> qin: are you sure that that applies to Lucid?  it was published before Lucid's release
[02:29] <Monotoko> vandemar, even with having to buy it?
[02:29] <dimas_> szal  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1792197
[02:30] <dimas_> qin i thank that page to help me get my audio server back in place
[02:30] <qin> szal: Look at the post, he said that jask removes puslaudio, so it makes sens.
[02:31] <bajah> hey guys im new to Ubuntu and i came across this software by readying the Ubuntu 10.04 book, i have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop, i was wondering if anyone knows how i could place icons on my desktop. i can only send them to my desktop folder but nothing shows up on the actual desktop
[02:31] <Monotoko> vandemar, I did at one point try to hack the router my ISP have given us...but with no luck
[02:31] <vandemar> Monotoko: I meant the telephone power switch.  even LAN (web-based) power switches (turn on/off power sockets) would cost $100ish or more
[02:31] <qin> Toph2: Permanently? Edit ~/.bashrc
[02:31] <Toph2> qin,,, ok,, thanks
[02:31] <dimas_> qin when i do what that page says then uninstall IDJC
[02:31] <szal> qin: in that case it's already a non-standard installation of Pulse and/or JACK..  on closer look I find that the poster modifies Pulse to access JACK instead of the soundcard
[02:31] <dimas_> although the rest start working again
[02:32] <Monotoko> vandemar, but I can program it to switch on after a timer in the OS itself using ACPI: http://blog.gulfsoft.com/2010/05/scheduled-wakeup-in-ubuntu.html
[02:33] <Rocknar> Hi, I have a sound card issue with a Dell XPS 410 running Ubuntu 10.10
[02:33] <dimas_> szal i have my pulseaudio and jack installed the way that page says...what you suggest?
[02:33] <vandemar> Monotoko: if that works, that's really cool.  I've always regarded desktop power management stuff as unreliable, maybe it's reliable these days
[02:34] <szal> dimas_: unless you need to play sound on apps that don't 'speak' JACK, I suggest you stick w/ an unmodified system & just install IDJC
[02:35] <szal> while JACK is running, that is
[02:36] <Rocknar> It's a driver issue.  I am seeing an ICH8 sound controller when running lspci, but I cannot find the driver or the alsa-base.conf module entry.
[02:36] <Rocknar> Also, there is no /proc/asound directory
[02:37] <szal> dimas_: you might also try your luck w/ the folks in #opensourcemusicians ..  though the best time there is from approx. 1200 UTC because a lot of the regulars there are in Australia
[02:38] <dimas_> szal that is a good tip
[02:38] <daftykins> aussie musicians, who'd've thought
[02:38] <Sorinan> I'm getting my .xsession-errors filled up with "Gvfs-remotevolumemonitor-WARNING new owner for volume monitor..." and i can't login. Does anyone knows why?
[02:38] <Rocknar> Oh, Errol
[02:39] <alilly> hi, I am using ubuntu lucid, and don't why today sound is not working (pulse audio seems to be running, but I hear no sound)
[02:39] <share> bye
[02:40] <astraljava> dimas_: That outdated page tells you there are no jack modules for pulse, but on 11.04 (which you claim to be using on ubuntuforums.org) there are, so there shouldn't be a need for building them by yourself.
[02:41] <buzain> Test from iPad
[02:42] <uRock> it works
[02:42] <dimas_> astraljava i would appretiate you suggest me what to do in my post if that is not too much to ask and thank you for trying to help me
[02:42] <buzain> uRock: thnx
[02:42] <uRock> 8)
[02:43] <dimas_> but really i am not to well expirience in all this..just learning on the way
[02:43] <astraljava> dimas_: I have no idea, other than what szal suggested. Just install it from the repositories, without breaking pulse setup manually. See where it gets you, then post again if it doesn't work.
[02:44] <dimas_> astraljava so what should i do?...sudo apt-get --purge uninstall pulseaudio?
[02:45] <dimas_> remove
[02:45] <astraljava> dimas_: Oh, one other thing. There shouldn't be a need to run it as root, either.
[02:45] <qin> dimas_: 02:20 <          dimas_ > 10.04
[02:45] <dimas_> sorry
[02:45] <qin> dimas_: Was it a time or version?
[02:45] <dimas_> qin
[02:45] <dimas_> sorry
[02:46] <dimas_> i am not that smart
[02:46] <astraljava> dimas_: `sudo apt-get install pulseaudio idjc`, pastebin any errors.
[02:46] <astraljava> dimas_: No worries, we all start from somewhere.
[02:46] <buzain> I keep losing the color theme in nutty and have to logoff and login several times for it to stay. It runs in vmware player on win 7. Any suggestions on how to identify the problem?
[02:47] <escott> buzain, check if gnome-settings-daemon is crashing
[02:49] <buzain> Escott: I'll do that. How to know the reason for crashing?
[02:50] <escott> buzain, you could try running it in a terminal and see if it gives you an error message at the end
[02:51] <Duck_> My Ubuntu 11 desktop icon disappear, then reappear when I mouse over them. Anyone know what the issue is and how to fix it?
[02:51] <MXIIA> they're supposed to do that, Duck_
[02:52] <deltaray> Is there a way to determine remotely from an ssh session that a version upgrade is done that was started in the GUI?
[02:52] <escott> MXIIA, i think he means the nautilus desktop not the unity taskbar
[02:52] <Ignacio> HI!
[02:52] <Duck_> MXIIA, really?! If I put something on my desktop... I want to see it.
[02:52] <escott> deltaray, ps aux | grep apt
[02:53] <MXIIA> Duck_ h, the actual desktop, not the unity bar. sorry
[02:53] <deltaray> escott, ok. It shows the dpkg process, but the load is at nearly 0. I guess its prompting for something like whether to change a file.
[02:53] <escott> Duck_, thats not supposed to happen, but i don't have a good explanation. do you have any other rendering issues?
[02:53] <Inferos> hey
[02:53] <Inferos> how is everyone doing tonight
[02:53] <escott> deltaray, probably
[02:54] <biggamer11> hi
[02:54] <Ignacio> alguien habla español
[02:54] <deltaray> escott, I'm guessing there is no way to see what its asking or tell it to continue?
[02:54] <Duck_> escott, that my only issue, everything else is great
[02:54] <escott> Duck_, have you configured any application that would draw on the root window like conky or a special desktop background
[02:55] <escott> !es | Ignacio
[02:55] <Ignacio> estoy baneado!
[02:55] <escott> deltaray, I'm afraid I don't know a good way
[02:55] <Duck_> ah ha! I do have conky running
[02:55] <Inferos> I have a question
[02:56] <deltaray> escott, I noticed that i has fd 36 open as a pipe. Wonder if its somehow possible to controll it through there.  Oh well. Probably met with trouble.
[02:56] <Inferos> I installed ubuntu today but it won't let me hack a website that I want and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
[02:56] <escott> Duck_, conky can't run on the root window, but you can usually have it run in a normal window
[02:56] <buzain> Escott: gnome-settings-daemon is still running but the theme is gone
[02:56] <escott> deltaray, you might be able to open that fd with root and pump a "y\n" into it, no idea what that would do
[02:57] <Duck_> escott, how do you run conky in a normal window? I like conky running on my desktop
[02:57] <deltaray> Actually, from an strace its waiting on fd 0, so I guess it does go through that fd for input.
[02:58] <noisewaterphd> has anyone used btrfs as a storage disk? and what did you think. Talking ubuntu server 11.04 here
[02:58] <escott> Duck_, own_window_transparent yes and own_window yes
[02:58] <escott> noisewaterphd, ubuntu btrfs utils is old, i also find performance is poor
[02:59] <escott> noisewaterphd, fsck on boot does a full scan of the entire disk
[02:59] <biggamer11> how do you uninstall stuff using the terminal?
[02:59] <bkanuka> hey id like to try out google+ ... am i gonna bitched out if I ask for an invite?
[02:59] <escott> biggamer11, apt-get remove
[03:00] <gry> bkanuka: If you ask in a support channel like this, then maybe.
[03:00] <escott> deltaray, for it the fd should be whatever stdin would be
[03:01] <biggamer11> ok and another question how do i setup php on my ubuntu  laptop becouse i keep getting no results afterwords
[03:01] <gry> bkanuka: #ubuntu-offtopic may be worth a shot.
[03:01] <escott> !php | biggamer11
[03:02] <biggamer11> thanks ubottu
[03:02] <bkanuka> gry: thanks. thats what i was looking for didnt want to be a pest.
[03:03] <gry> bkanuka: Great. :-)
[03:03] <gdance> hey everyone! Gnome has just completely locked up and if I try to click on anything nothing responds but I am still able to get into a virtual terminal and irssi and other things but this happens every once in a while and I have absolutely no idea why. I have tried looking in dmesg and Xorg.log but am not sure what to look for. This problem is really annoying though so if anyone has any suggestions that would be great!
[03:04] <gry> gdance: Does this happen for another user on the system?
[03:04] <Duck_> escott, setting conky's own_window to yes fixes the issue. But who whats a titlebar on conky?! Is there anyway fix the rendering issue but leave conky on the Desktop?
[03:04] <Rocknar> Sorry, had to check something in BIOS.  Does anyone have a guess?
[03:04] <gdance> gry: I haven't actually tested that. I just have this user account
[03:04] <Duck_> I rather leave conky on the desktop and live with the issue
[03:05] <escott> Duck_, check #conky. you may be able to make some changes to !ccsm to make it work the way you want. you could also have it draw to compiz's widget layer and then access it with a hotkey
[03:05] <gry> gdance: You may try to test that.
[03:05] <gdance> gry: yeah I will give that a try
[03:06] <escott> Rocknar, please restate the problem
[03:06] <gdance> I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to get it to respond again
[03:06] <gdance> sometimes it happens if I am in the middle of downloading or writting something
[03:07] <biggamer11> My wifi connection keeps dropping and its quite annoying so is there a fix?
[03:08] <cvrse> gdance, is there any processes running wild in top?
[03:08] <Rocknar> I run lspci and see my card, but my system doesn't.  It's on-board, so I don't get why this would be a hard fix... but it has been.
[03:08] <gdance> cvrse: hmmm let me check
[03:09] <escott> Rocknar, soundcard? what kind of card is it? and is it supported by alsa? have you modprobed the required drivers
[03:09] <LinuxGuy2009> I was wondering if someone could clear an assumption that I have about package mirrors. When I visit a mirror and lets say I look at the section for Lucid. They will list stuff like Lucid, Lucid Backports, Lucid Updates, Lucid Security, etc. Now I am assuming that when a new release is made that all packages are initially put into just plain Lucid section, or the main folder of that release. Then after some updated packages are released,
[03:09] <Rocknar> The output of a recent diagnostic is here :http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cdcfb02b783844111c7395357e56dafba74057d3
[03:10] <Rocknar> Sorry, a bit looped from working on this thing for so long.
[03:10] <gdance> cvrse: there doesn't seem to be really npviewer.bin and chrome are at the top but the cpu usage doesn't seem to be that bad or anything
[03:10] <gdance> oh and also I can move the mouse in gnome as well
[03:10] <gdance> it just doesn't respond if I click on anything
[03:10] <escott> LinuxGuy2009, basically, afaik Security is security updates, backports are software from future versions backported to that release, updates are non-security updates.
[03:12] <LinuxGuy2009> The reason I ask is if someone has a DVD repository set for an offline machine, and instead of buying an updated set of DVDs again, they could instead simply make a new DVD to add to the set that just included packages referenced in the Updates section of that release and they would have a current repository set?
[03:12] <escott> Rocknar, what does lsmod | grep snd outpu
[03:12] <cvrse> gdance, np, just thought it might be metacity/compiz locking it up, have u just tried restarting gnome, sudo service gdm restart ?
[03:12] <LinuxGuy2009> This correct?
[03:12] <escott> LinuxGuy2009, yes, but there may be meta data about those packages (version numbers aren't always incremental)
[03:12] <Rocknar> NULL
[03:13] <escott> Rocknar, then modprobe snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec see if that does any good
[03:13] <LinuxGuy2009> escott: Could you be more specific I dont get what you mean. I know what a meta packages is, I'm just not sure of the problem or issue that your refering to.
[03:14] <gdance> cvrse: hmmm that reloaded it again in alt+f8
[03:14] <escott> LinuxGuy2009, the package database would also have to be updated. otherwise the system won't know that foobar-1.2a.deb replaces foobar-1.1c.deb
[03:15] <gdance> cvrse: the other one in alt+f7 is still trying to shutdown though
[03:15] <Rocknar> It informs me that I do not have a corresponding /lib/modules/ directory.
[03:15] <escott> cvrse, restarting gdm will kill his entire session
[03:15] <gdance> it says iwlagn Aggregation not enabled for tid 0 because load = 0
[03:15] <escott> gdance, if compiz is locked up I would just killall compiz
[03:16] <LinuxGuy2009> escott: Well if they were burned with APTonCD and added to sources.list, shouldnt that work just fine?
[03:16] <Rocknar> Rolling back to latest stable version.
[03:16] <gdance> hmmm I will probably just restart
[03:16] <escott> LinuxGuy2009, maybe, i'm not sure what files would need to be updated
[03:17] <gdance> there are so many of these issues on ubuntu
[03:17] <bajah> hey guys im new to Ubuntu and i came across this software by readying the Ubuntu 10.04 book, i have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop, i was wondering if anyone knows how i could place icons on my desktop. i can only send them to my desktop folder but nothing shows up on the actual desktop
[03:17] <gdance> I don't know how so many people say it is more stable then Mac or windows
[03:17] <gdance> maybe at the terminal
[03:18] <escott> gdance, depends a lot on your hardware
[03:18] <cvrse> gdance, ubuntu isnt stable at all
[03:18] <gdance> yeah my brother had a nightmare with his laptop
[03:18] <LinuxGuy2009> escott: Im also wondering would the Security updates need to be on the DVD as well to have a complete repository update DVD?
[03:18] <gdance> mine pretty much works alright
[03:18] <gdance> except for issues like these cropping up
[03:18] <escott> LinuxGuy2009, probably not, but it would be easier to include them than to not
[03:18] <gdance> windows and mac are like flawless though with everything hardware wise
[03:19] <LinuxGuy2009> escott: Very true. Well thanks so much for your time, its appreciated.
[03:19] <bajah> could anyone please answer my question
[03:19] <Simath> bajah: drag and drop
[03:19] <soreau> bajah: You should have desktop icons by default in 10.04
[03:19] <soreau> bajah: Make sure the gconf key show_desktop is enabled in /apps/nautilus/
[03:19] <bajah> yes it worked when i used it in virtual box
[03:20] <soreau> and that nautilus is running
[03:20] <bajah> ok let me try that thanks
[03:20] <Rocknar> modprobe worked
[03:20] <gdance> hmmm well ill restart
[03:20] <escott> gdance, what kind of video card do you have
[03:22] <escott> Rocknar, make sure you are getting a kernel from a legit source, you should have the appropriate /lib/modules folder
[03:22] <army> hello
[03:22] <bajah> soreau: i dont see the apps folder under root
[03:22] <gdance> escott: it is a Intel Mobile GM965
[03:22] <soreau> bajah: It's a gconf key path
[03:23] <gdance> GL960
[03:23] <soreau> bajah: Use gconf-editor for a gui
[03:24] <escott> gdance, that is an older graphics card, it should be reasonably well supported
[03:24] <gdance> escott: yeah it works alright
[03:24] <escott> bajah, its a little confusing what you are asking about. there is no apps folder thats a mac thing
[03:24] <soreau> escott: OTOH, intel drivers are kinda hit-n-miss
[03:24] <soreau> escott: /apps is a gconf key path
[03:24] <soreau> escott: See gconf-editor
[03:25] <soreau> (or ~/.gconf/)
[03:25] <escott> soreau, bajah sorry missed that you were in gconf-editor
[03:26] <gdance> oh well
[03:26] <gdance> thanks guys
[03:26] <gdance> im going to restart
[03:26] <gdance> cya
[03:27] <buzain> escott: lost my connection. I checked and gnome-settings-daemon still works but I lost the color theme and icon thems
[03:28] <bajah> soreau: im in the nuatilus folder now
[03:28] <escott> buzain, im not sure what would cause your gtk theme to disappear except for the settings daemon
[03:28] <escott> bajah, not nautilus, its another program he wants you to run
[03:28] <soreau> bajah: In gconf-editor? look for show_desktop
[03:28] <buzain> escott: thanks anyways
[03:29] <bajah> ok but where do can i find gconf-editor
[03:29] <bajah> do i have to install it or is it already installed
[03:29] <escott> !info gconf-editor
[03:29] <escott> bajah, you do have to install it (sudo apt-get install gconf-editor) its a bit like regedit in windows
[03:30] <bajah> whereis gconf-editor
[03:30] <soreau> bajah: Just run 'gconf-editor' from alt+f2 or terminal
[03:30] <soreau> bajah: 'which gconf-editor' will show you where it is
[03:30] <bajah> thanks soreau
[03:30] <bajah> im in
[03:31] <bajah> now that im in there what should i do
[03:31] <buzain> escott: any other suggestions to debug this problem?
[03:32] <escott> buzain, im afraid its beyond my knowledge.
[03:32] <Ray2> apps>nautilus>preferences> it should be in the right side window
[03:32] <buzain> escott: no worries. i'll keep googling
[03:32] <bajah> thanks Ray2 found it
[03:34] <bajah> it says that this key is not writable
[03:34] <bajah> does that mean i have to enter as root
[03:34] <soreau> bajah: What is telling you that?
[03:35] <bajah> the show desktop option
[03:38] <rakathan> has anyone messed around with OpenCL and an ATI card on natty?
[03:38] <bajah> soreau: ok i have enabled it but im still don't able to put anything on the desktop, it just moves back to its former location
[03:39] <bajah> do i have to restart inoder for it to take effect
[03:39] <escott> rakathan, don't think you can. the opencl libraries depend on the nvidia glx driver iirc
[03:39] <soreau> bajah: What is the output of 'ps ax|grep nautilus|grep -v grep'?
[03:40] <rakathan> so ATI hasn't released their own OpenCL binaries yet?
[03:40] <vandemar> rakathan: the main thing is you need to be using the fglrx driver to do opencl on linux
[03:40] <edbian> rakathan: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[03:40] <bajah> soreau: this the output
[03:41] <bajah> 1679 ?        Sl     1:05 nautilus
[03:41] <rakathan> vandemar: right, I've got an nvidia card right now and CUDA works fine...I was just thinking about getting a beefy ATI card in the future :)
[03:41] <soreau> bajah: Well it seems strange that you had a permissions issue error
[03:42] <escott> rakathan, try http://blog.onlyhype.com/2010/09/06/upgrading-the-ati-drivers-and-configuring-opencl-in-ubuntu/
[03:43] <Rocknar> My work here has concluded.  Just had to get the level up to 0 and it's all set.
[03:43] <Rocknar> WIll drop by the next time my roommate almost bricks a machine, though.
[03:44] <rakathan> escott: that looks promising...from what I can tell, it looks like ATI has two things going on: their "stream" sdk and a future OpenCL sdk not available yet
[03:45] <soreau> RockHow do you almost brick a machine?
[03:45] <soreau> erm, nm
[03:46] <bajah> soreau: after the permissions issue i re-entered as root
[03:47] <escott> bajah, you shouldnt do that
[03:47] <bajah> but the icons are still not showing
[03:47] <escott> bajah, can you please explain your issue a little more clearly
[03:47] <soreau> bajah: That is the wrong thing to do
[03:47] <soreau> bajah: You should not have run gconf-editor as root
[03:48] <soreau> bajah: Instead, do this as your normal user 'sudo chown -R $USER ~/.gconf* && gconf-editor' then try to set it again
[03:48] <bajah> ok
[03:49] <escott> soreau, when he ran that as root he more likely changed the gconf settings in /root
[03:49] <soreau> escott: no doubt
[03:50] <bajah> soreau: i am running the editor as a normal user now
[03:51] <bajah> soreau: but now the show_desktop option is disabled. when i try to enable it, it says this key is not writable
[03:54] <edbian> nobody wants help?
[03:55] <andai> I just jailbroke my iPod touch and YAY now it shows up in ubuntu as a removable drive. What software should I use to manage the music? ( iPod touch 2G 4.2.1 )
[03:56] <bajah> soreau: but now the show_desktop option is disabled. when i try to enable it, it says this key is not writable
[03:57] <qin> #
[03:57] <icekube> hola
[03:58] <buzain> edbian: i do. i have a problem with natty running in vmware player on win 7. I lose theme once I login for the first time then I have to logout and in several times for it to stay
[03:59] <soreau> bajah: It's a bit of a problem if it's still not writable after that chown command
[03:59] <l3d>  which version should I use 10.10 or 11.04?
[04:00] <buzain> where did he go ...**zain
[04:01] <buzain> edbian: u back. got a q for u
[04:01] <bajah> soreau: thanks anyway
[04:02] <edbian> buzain: whatup
[04:02] <buzain> edbian: i do. i have a problem with natty running in vmware player on win 7. I lose theme once I login for the first time then I have to logout and in several times for it to stay. what could be the problem?
[04:03] <edbian> buzain: You lose the theme of what?
[04:03] <edbian> buzain: the theme of the login screen?
[04:03] <buzain> in unity, I lose terminal background color, window color, and icon colors
[04:04] <buzain> edbian: no. after I login into unity.
[04:04] <soreau> bajah: That error means something is messed up with your system
[04:05] <DarthCaitSith> hello
[04:06] <bernardosilva> hi
[04:06] <nick12345> opa
[04:07] <DarthCaitSith> i have a question and my googlefu fails me, i want to set up two monitors on my box, but have one screen logged in as one person and the other as another (ie main screen for wen surfing etc second is tv for watching movies)
[04:07] <DarthCaitSith> is this possible?
[04:07] <Kuzad> I'm on 11.04, and I wanted to know if it was possible to customize the boot splash screen, if so, how would I do it?
[04:07] <aeon-ltd> Kuzad: yes
[04:07] <bajah> soreau: it has been like that since the very first day i installed it
[04:08] <Kuzad> aeon-ltd, like I asked, how would I do it?
[04:08] <soreau> bajah: Did you make sure to check the md5sum of the image you used to install it?
[04:08] <escott> DarthCaitSith, yes, but it probably requires two video cards
[04:08] <bajah> soreau: i tried this OS first in virtualbox under windows 7 but the lookandfeel was different
[04:08] <DarthCaitSith> hmmm
[04:08] <Kuzad> DarthCaitSith, And it seems like it may require a separate X server.
[04:09] <escott> DarthCaitSith, you could hack it with xnest maximized on one window
[04:09] <bajah> soreau: there were options for applications, places and system at the top of the desktop and i was able to put stuff on the desktop
[04:09] <escott> DarthCaitSith, the xnest route is probably a much better solution
[04:10] <buzain> edbian: any ideas about the issue?
[04:10] <edbian> buzain: I left and now I am back.  What is the issue?
[04:10] <aeon-ltd> Kuzad: if you're using plymouth http://www.ubuntugeek.com/plymouth-manager-gui-tool-to-change-boot-theme-and-resolution.html
[04:10] <soreau> bajah: Yes that's how it should be
[04:10] <DarthCaitSith> thanks :)
[04:10] <soreau> bajah: Sounds like something is wrong with your installation
[04:11] <bajah> soreau: now that i installed it on the computer it shows icons on the left side
[04:11] <diytto> i have a usb that my lubuntu mounts but then when i try to view it it gives me input/output errors because of one of the Directories (does that make sense?)
[04:11] <buzain> edbian: i have a problem with natty running in vmware player on win 7. I lose theme colors once I login for the first time then I have to logout and login several times for the colors to stay.
[04:11] <edbian> buzain: oh yes
[04:11] <soreau> bajah: Sounds like you installed 11.04 instead of 10.04
[04:11] <edbian> buzain: I'm not really sure
[04:11] <edbian> buzain: very strange issue
[04:12] <bajah> soreau: i don't have 11.04, the one i have is 10.10
[04:12] <soreau> bajah: Well if you see icons on the left, and 'ps ax|grep unity|grep -v grep' returns anything, you're on 11.04
[04:13] <buzain> edbian: could it be that I run in vmware player? my laptop which also runs natty doesn't have this problem.
[04:13] <soreau> bajah: perhaps you've upgraded inadvertently?
[04:13] <diytto> How can i fix a directory giving me an input/output error
[04:13] <soreau> bajah: What does 'lsb_release -c' say?
[04:14] <diytto> How can i fix a directory giving me an input/output error?
[04:14] <diytto> How can i fix a directory giving me an input/output error and not displaying?
[04:14] <bajah> soreau:Codename:	maverick
[04:14] <soreau> diytto: Try fsck, and if it doesn't fix it, it may be bad hard drive bits
[04:14] <soreau> bajah: weird
[04:15] <diytto> soreau: it's on a usb drive
[04:16] <bajah> soreau: i know right
[04:16] <RobotFood> Does anyone know how i can make a keyring permanent? so that i dont have to reenter it each time i log in.
[04:16] <KM0201> RobotFood: you shouldn't have to enter it everytime you log in.. unless you're using auto-login
[04:17] <ader10> How do I properly show unicode in vim? http://i52.tinypic.com/28slxk8.png Please highlight if you respond.
[04:17] <RobotFood> KM0201: i'm not using auto login, but it prompts me for the password each time in order to log onto my wireless network
[04:17] <edbian> buzain: It might be
[04:17] <KM0201> RobotFood: for your wireless network?
[04:17] <aeon-ltd> ader10: same terminals?
[04:18] <RobotFood> KM0201: it doesnt prompt me for the wireless network password, it prompts me for the keyring password
[04:18] <cyperbg> guys when I do sudo cat id_dsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys I get permission denied
[04:18] <KM0201> RobotFood: is it asking for your network password, or your keyring password?
[04:18] <KM0201> ok.
[04:18] <cyperbg> I want to import my public key for SSH into the authorized_keys file
[04:18] <KM0201> RobotFood: and you don't have ubuntu set to auto login?
[04:18] <cyperbg> I've tan
[04:18] <cyperbg> ran
[04:18] <cyperbg> chmod go-w ~/
[04:18] <cyperbg> chmod 700 ~/.ssh
[04:18] <cyperbg> chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[04:18] <FloodBot1> cyperbg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <RobotFood> KM0201: i do not
[04:18] <buzain> edbian: thought so. thx anyways
[04:19] <KM0201> RobotFood: weird.
[04:20] <metbsd> hey i can't boot usb ubuntu if i write image to usb stick, what did they hack
[04:21] <cyperbg> guys please
[04:21] <KM0201> metbsd: you can use unetbootin or the usb tool t put a live ISO on a usb, you don't have to hack anything
[04:21] <cyperbg> when I do sudo cat id_dsa.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys I get permission denied
[04:21] <metbsd> i use win32 disk imager to copy iso to usb
[04:21] <metbsd> and can't boot
[04:21] <gry> cyperbg: Try just `sudo cat id_dsa.pub`.
[04:21] <[THC]AcidRain> cyperbg, use sudo
[04:21] <[THC]AcidRain> ?
[04:21] <metbsd> any other distro can work this way
[04:21] <metbsd> except ubuntu
[04:22] <cyperbg> gry I use it, same problem
[04:22] <gry> metbsd: Details, please?
[04:22] <cyperbg> it doesn't even ask for password
[04:22] <KM0201> metbsd: so download the tool ubuntu recommends to make a USB...
[04:22] <gry> cyperbg: `ls -la id_dsa.pub`
[04:22] <metbsd> operating system not found
[04:22] <KM0201> metbsd: its obviously not setting up the USB properly
[04:22] <ChogyDan> cyperbg: I think you want echo or tee instead of cat
[04:22] <cyperbg> -rw-r--r-- 1 cyper cyper 601 2011-07-02 04:00 id_dsa.pub
[04:23] <metbsd> what's
[04:23] <propus> anyone have an pci grahics card for sale?.. something like a ati rage pro ?
[04:23] <[THC]AcidRain> lets say i wanted to setup a system that would parse out the MessageBody of an email with postfix. but only on a certain email address. how would i do that?
[04:23] <cyperbg> -rw-r--r-- 1 cyper cyper 601 2011-07-02 04:00 id_dsa.pub
[04:23] <[THC]AcidRain> what should i research to do that?
[04:23] <[THC]AcidRain> what would that be called?
[04:23] <cyperbg> -rw------- 1 root root 0 2011-07-02 03:50 authorized_keys
[04:25] <DarthCaitSith> there used to be a place to enable xdmcp in the system->admin->login where is it now in 11.04?
[04:25] <KM0201> metbsd: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:25] <KagomeS> hi . . .
[04:25] <cyperbg> gry any ideas?
[04:25] <propus> hey!
[04:25] <KagomeS> I need wacom driver for ubuntu
[04:25] <KM0201> wacom?
[04:25] <KagomeS> i have a "touch screen" pen
[04:26] <KM0201> good luck w/ that
[04:26] <Anorion|Aurora> is there any way to set the cpufreq governor to conservative or powersave when booting from the liveCD/installer?
[04:26] <propus> kagomeS, goolge?
[04:26] <ChogyDan> Anorion|Aurora: can't you do it the regular ways after you boot?
[04:27] <Anorion|Aurora> nope
[04:27] <mobodo> I accidentally added a spare to my raid and now mdadm complains that I have a missing spare - I've been reading the man page and googling, but I can't figure out how to remove a spare from a raid - anybody knows?
[04:27] <Anorion|Aurora> the system overheats before the installation is complete
[04:28] <ChogyDan> Anorion|Aurora: hmm, well, the system is set to full speed on boot I believe.  Why don't you fix it in hardware?
[04:28] <Anorion|Aurora> because I can't? There are no options in the bios to set the CPU speed
[04:28] <Anorion|Aurora> it's an eee pc 900
[04:29] <bullgard4> What is the function of the bash script /etc/X11/Xsession? "global Xsession file --  used by  display managers and xinit (startx)"
[04:30] <ChogyDan> Anorion|Aurora: I mean, the system shouldn't overheat, ideally
[04:30] <ChogyDan> Anorion|Aurora: maybe you could use the alternate cd, and when installation starts, quickly go over to another terminal and set the freq
[04:30] <Anorion|Aurora> well, by design, the CPU in the 900 is not meant to run at full speed for very long
[04:31] <cyperbg> guys please, sudo cat id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys gives me permission denied
[04:31] <Anorion|Aurora> the default speed is 667MHz, instead of the 1GHz, it can run at
[04:31] <ChogyDan> cyperbg: isn't cat the wrong command?
[04:31] <cyperbg> no, it is mentioned in many guides setting up keys with SSH
[04:32] <ChogyDan> cyperbg: do you have a link?
[04:32] <cyperbg> one second I managed to open the file using gksudo gedit authorized_keys
[04:33] <gry> cyperbg: Only root can read authorized_keys. Can you fix its permissions using sudo, chmod, and chown, and then re-try?
[04:33] <cyperbg> I did fix the permission using chmod
[04:33] <cyperbg> let me try something and I will report back if it worked
[04:33] <gry> cyperbg: What are they now?
[04:34] <ChogyDan> cyperbg: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/sudo-and-permission-denied-651619/
[04:34] <cyperbg> how can I copy my private key to my Windows machine
[04:34] <cyperbg> I use SSH and VNC
[04:35] <cyperbg> I used a flash drive
[04:36] <Shoogy> hey guys
[04:36] <Shoogy> What is the command in terminal to find out if I am on 32 or 64 bit
[04:37] <gry> uname -a
[04:37] <Shoogy> thank you
[04:38] <Shoogy> What am I looking for
[04:38] <cyperbg> well, it did not work - I'm trying to setup Putty to use keys to connect
[04:38] <cyperbg> it said Server refused our key
[04:38] <cvam> the ls command tells there are  2 links for a file. if  I use "find -inum 2341" it gives only one filepath which I know.How can I find another link to a file
[04:39] <Shoogy> that command did not say it
[04:39] <Shoogy> I want to find out if I am 32 or 64 bit
[04:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's ubuntu's off subject channel name?
[04:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> can't remember
[04:40] <bullgard4> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Shoogy: uname -a
[04:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> thnx bullgard4
[04:40] <Shoogy> It does not say in it
[04:40] <Shoogy> What am I looking for
[04:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Shoogy: it should
[04:41] <bullgard4> Shoogy: What ouptut does '~$ uname -a' produce with you?
[04:41] <Shoogy> I836?
[04:41] <Shoogy> 386?
[04:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Shoogy: then your running a 32
[04:41] <Shoogy> that would be 32 right
[04:41] <Shoogy> thank you
[04:41] <LEV_> Hey, any chance someone could tell me how to get wxpython on ubuntu?
[04:41] <cyperbg> gry how do I check permissions?
[04:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cyperbg: like how...like ls -l ?
[04:42] <gry> cyperbg: ls -la path/to/file
[04:42] <cyperbg> for directory
[04:42] <bullgard4> cyperbg: Use the command 'ls -al'
[04:42] <cvam> I can't find the links for  a file
[04:42] <rickux> if my wireless adapter is showing up as eth1 instead of wlan0, would drivers be the culprit?
[04:42] <gry> bullgard4: Thank you.
[04:42] <brasiil6699> ola tem brasileiro ai?
[04:42] <cyperbg> everything looks OK - http://paste.ubuntu.com/636713/
[04:43] <gry> !br | brasiil6699
[04:43] <brasiil6699> ola
[04:43] <lottys> anyone know anything about ca cert authentication?
[04:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> not me
[04:43] <gry> lottys: I would think someone here does.
[04:43] <lottys> I'd hope so :)
[04:43] <gry> lottys: So, just ask the question, wait for reply.
[04:44] <bullgard4> lottys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority
[04:44] <lottys> I've been issued with a signed csr and intermediate csr... however my squid config uses a cert= .pem file and key= .key file... is it possible to convert the csr file to those formats?
[04:45] <envygeeks> rickux: not necessarily, yes they would be the culprit in naming it that, but it's not necessarily a problem
[04:45] <rickux> envygeeks: alright, thank you
[04:45] <diytto> qin: may i pm?
[04:46] <diytto> can somone in here help me with my usb drive? there is a drectory on it thwt will not show and i get access denied when trying to access it as well as input/output errors
[04:47] <lottys> =\
[04:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: have you tried to get access through admin permissions?
[04:48] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: no. ley me try
[04:48] <diytto> let*
[04:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: now some will argue on this but you could try to use the su command or perhaps change the permissions on the directory with the chmod command
[04:49] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: apparently root does not have cd
[04:49] <diytto> :/
[04:49] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: type in a terminal:   su
[04:49] <diytto> got it
[04:50] <cvam> a external filesystem mounted on point "/media/" but it is nit listed in   "/etc/fstab" file. How
[04:50] <cvam> a external filesystem mounted on point "/media/" but it is not listed in   "/etc/fstab" file. How
[04:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: well first did you have a password for your root user?
[04:51] <bullgard4> What is the function of the bash script /etc/X11/Xsession? "global Xsession file --  used by  display managers and xinit (startx)"
[04:51] <lottys> Can someone explain how ssl keys are created?
[04:51] <envygeeks> cvam: because /etc/fstab is for permanent automounts, you can use the mount command and umount to mount and unmount without needing /etc/fstab
[04:51] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: what do you mean. and here is a log of ls of the root of the usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/636720/
[04:52] <bullgard4> lottys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security
[04:52] <cvam> envygeeks: but i cant unmount. the message is "umount: /media/label1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"
[04:53] <cvam> envygeeks: And I'm a root user
[04:54] <Product> Hey guys.
[04:54] <rodney_> Speaking of help ... I'm having a problem setting up an NTP server. I have done it before however this time I am receiving 'parent died before we finished, exiting' on a reboot and then subsequent restarts get 'ntpd exiting on signal 15' logged only. Does anyone have an idea please? Executing 'ntpq -p'  reports that I can see the servers?
[04:54] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: did you get it?
[04:54] <Product> I installed Ubuntu on my USB.
[04:54] <bullgard4> !ask | Product
[04:54] <Product> Oh ok :))
[04:54] <envygeeks> cvam: is the drive in use?
[04:54] <Product> I installed Ubuntu on my USB, and rebooted, what do I have to do now, nothing came up, only few files on my USB.
[04:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: "sudo passwd" is a start. Change the root password to what you want.  then "su"  and cd  to where your drive is mounted to and you should be able to view the contents...unless it's encrypted
[04:55] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: the Games directory is screwed up
[04:56] <lottys> anyone know anything about ca cert authentication?
[04:56] <lottys> someone must know =\\
[04:56] <bullgard4> Product: What do you mean by "USB"? Do you mean an "USB stick"?
[04:56] <lottys> i've got a critical issue
[04:56] <envygeeks> It's probably better to never set a root password and to leave root disabled and just do "sudo -i"
[04:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> diytto: what exactly it is your trying to do?
[04:56] <Product> Yes, Memory card, I installed on it to test Ubuntu if I like it.
[04:56] <Product> I rebooted my PC, and I can see a few files on my Memory Stick.
[04:56] <diytto> Us3r_Unfriendly: trying to view the directory but the directory is screwed up
[04:57] <diytto> i gtg
[04:57] <diytto> :|
[04:57] <pin1> good day! anyone can help me? troubles with launching my Creative E-MU 0404 PCI-Express!
[04:57] <vandemar> first you need some model rocket engines
[04:57] <bullgard4> pin1: What exact error message do you obtain?
[04:58] <pin1> just a sec. i'll make manipulations in console
[04:58] <Product> Can anyone help me with the steps I have to follow to use Ubuntu, I installed on Memory Stick to make it bootable, and when installation was done I had to reboot my PC.
[04:58] <ader10> aeon__: yes
[04:58] <lottys> anyone know anything about ca cert authentication? really need some help guys
[04:58] <ader10> sorry for the delay
[04:58] <envygeeks> product: did you use the usb creator tool or did you dd the image?
[04:59] <Product> envygeeks: I'am not sure what I used jo-erlend gave me a link.
[04:59] <pin1> ullgard4
[04:59] <pin1> it says command not found
[04:59] <pin1> sorry. once again
[04:59] <envygeeks> lottys: you mean x.509 auth?
[04:59] <Product> And  I had to choose USB: and correct Dirrectoy withch is I://
[04:59] <pin1> /usr/sbin/alsaconf: строка 929: update-modules: команда не найдена
[04:59] <Product> And I also has choose Ubuntu, latest version.
[05:00] <Product> And it was like 700Mb.
[05:00] <envygeeks> Product: Download the ISO (if you are already on Ubuntu) insert the USB and go to GNOME Menu > Admin > Startup Creator and use that tool, it will guide you
[05:00] <Product> I came back, and installation was done, I clicked reboot now".
[05:00] <Anorion|Aurora> is there a way to set the cpufreq governor from the grub commandline?
[05:00] <pin1> envygeeks , are you speaking to me ore someone else?
[05:00] <Product> envygeeks, could you please TeamView me ? I would be pleased.
[05:00] <Product> I'am fully new to Linux.
[05:01] <Jakalala> Hi
[05:01] <envygeeks> Product: I guess I could help you real quick, let me install teamviewer real quick, I don't have it on this laptop becuase normally it's my play machine
[05:01] <Product> Ok :)
[05:01] <Product> Thanks very much !
[05:01] <lottys> anyone know anything about ca cert authentication? really need some help guys
[05:01] <lottys> envygeeks : yeah
[05:02] <lottys> sorry just seen your msg
[05:02] <pin1> troubles with launching my Creative E-MU 0404 PCI-Express! any gelp? /usr/sbin/alsaconf: command not found
[05:02] <lottys> basically... i got sent a new csr to install
[05:02] <nicolas> I am unable to open shotwell, I have reinstalled and even updated the source but still no beans, any thoughts?
[05:02] <lottys> so put the new file in the certs dir along with the intermediate one
[05:02] <bullgard4> !prefix | pin1
[05:02] <lottys> which seems to display the updated expiry using ssl checker websites...
[05:03] <lottys> however... squid needs a .pem and .key
[05:03] <lottys> which are still using the old ones?
[05:03] <lottys> i'm just all confused by it :|
[05:05] <pin1> bullgard4 , seems like you give some attention. i'm from Russia and i'm quite noob =) sorry if I do something wrong
[05:06] <new_person> anyone have a gmail account but doesn't have Google+ yet?
[05:07] <bullgard4> pin1: We all need to learn. So please start you messages wth the nick of your addressee.
[05:07] <bullgard4> new_person: Me.
[05:08] <new_person> do you know anyone with a google + account
[05:08] <new_person> i read this article on http://www.medjai.net/
[05:08] <pin1> bullgard4: is it ok like this? can we discuss problem with soundcard?
[05:08] <new_person> it requires someone with an existing Google+ account
[05:09] <new_person> The guy claims he did it with 3 of his friends accounts and it worked
[05:09] <pin1> new_person: maybe I could help. I have a Google account, but I do not know what is Google+
[05:09] <new_person> google+ is Google's replacement Facebook
[05:09] <new_person> but it has a lot of cool features
[05:10] <chaddy> new_person: /join ##googleplus
[05:10] <new_person> they have something called circles which lets you create circle of friends to limit who sees what
[05:10] <new_person> and they have something called a Hangout
[05:10] <pin1> ok. I'm not logged on Facebook. Sorry
[05:10] <new_person> this is like a group video chat with circles
[05:10] <simpleblue> i dont like the sounds of it :/
[05:10] <new_person> really?
[05:10] <new_person> i thought it was pretty cool
[05:10] <bullgard4> pin1: 1. You asked: "is it ok like this?" Yes, this is correct and well. --  2. You asked: "can we discuss problem with soundcard?" I hope so. But I do not know your particulars yet, and I am no great expert on sound in general. Please start your specific question now.
[05:11] <bazhang> new_person, connection to ubuntu support?
[05:11] <simpleblue> i don't know you that well new_person, and i've never heard of it. i'm very weary
[05:11] <new_person> yeah
[05:11] <new_person> i know simpleblue
[05:12] <simpleblue> sorry to say
[05:12] <bazhang> new_person, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ubuntu tech support in #ubuntu
[05:12] <new_person> i'm not saying for me, i'm just saying it's a good concept in general
[05:12] <new_person> oh
[05:12] <new_person> sorry bazhang
[05:13] <pin1> bullgard4 : when I tyype "sudo alsaconf" in console, my card is displayed incorrect. it says I have Audigy 2. But in fact it is 0404 PCIEx =\. also it brings another error: update-modules: command not found
[05:14] <cuddlefish> Hi guys. Tomboy won't launch for me; there's a weird .note file
[05:14] <cuddlefish> under ~/.local/share/tomboy
[05:14] <cuddlefish> any reads from it give 'Input/output error'
[05:14] <cuddlefish> tried fsck
[05:15] <Fox__> Hello. Im having some major problems Installing Ubuntu and was redirected to this IRC for help.
[05:16] <confezzor> maybe i can help if we know the issue
[05:17] <KM0201> Fox__: state your problem
[05:17] <confezzor> he's probl typing it out
[05:17] <nicolas> After restart system wont launch shotwell, I have updated sources, reinstalled from source and still no luck, any thoughts?
[05:18] <bullgard4> pin1: I do not know anything about alsaconf. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=alsaconf&mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&arch=any : "You have searched for files named alsaconf in suite natty, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results"
[05:18] <KM0201> nicolas: why did you install shotwell from source? its in the repos.. just apt-get it
[05:18] <Fox__> well at first it was the black screen with flashing keyboard lights.. But after burning the install disk slower ive now get when it starts to Install a long list of numbers with some call trace.. and the keyboard lights flashing
[05:18] <nicolas> KM0201 origenally it was, after restart it would not launch
[05:18] <pin1> bullgard4: ok. thanks anyway. in Russia I did not get anything exept for angry voices: "NOOB!"
[05:19] <KM0201> hmm
[05:19] <KM0201> Fox__: do you know what graphics processor is on that machine?
[05:19] <confezzor> nicolas did you try to uninstall it and than reinstall it again before doing it from source
[05:20] <nicolas> confezzor, that was my first plan of action, still no luck, so I got the newest ppa source and tried that, last resort was from source
[05:20] <Fox__> Unsure the brand but its on an PCI-E port.. the motherboard doesnt have built in graphics
[05:20] <confezzor> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:20] <nicolas> natty 11.04
[05:21] <Fox__> Motherboard  Asus P5P800
[05:22] <bullgard4> pin1: In this channel, you will sometimes get an angry answer also. But if you are polite and if you are putting smart questions here and know the Code of Conduct, you will get useful answers, be it after a long time. --  I am sorry that I do not know anything about Audigy 2 either.
[05:23] <nicolas> confezzor after seaching and seeing some complaint about shotwell with AMD 64 I thought that might be my prob, but it ran before just fine
[05:23] <confezzor> did you use the right ppa nicolas
[05:23] <pin1> exit
[05:23] <lottys> anyone know anything about ca x.509? really need some help guys
[05:23] <bullgard4> pin1: May be the following will help you a little bit:
[05:23] <confezzor> oh that sucks...but it works on mine AMD 64
[05:24] <nicolas> from what I could tell, it did not have an option for 64bit, but did for natty, meerkat etc
[05:24] <bullgard4> !sound | pin1
[05:25] <confezzor> did you use this ppa ppa:yorba/ppa
[05:25] <nicolas> confezzor - yup
[05:25] <lottys> anyone want some cash? :)
[05:25] <pin1> bullgard4: thanks! but the problem lies much deeper =). I had million tries. thanks for your help! I'll go google some more. bye!
[05:25] <bazhang> lottys, wrong channel for that
[05:25] <nicolas> confezzor, the shotwell viewer works, but not the manager
[05:25] <confezzor> hmmm that's wield...i got other's that might be good to use if you would like to know
[05:25] <lottys> sigh
[05:25] <nicolas> sure
[05:25] <pin1> guys, what is the command to leave the room?
[05:25] <nicolas> looking for simple
[05:26] <nicolas> like shotwell
[05:26] <rww> pin1: /part
[05:26] <bullgard4> pin1: Good luck! Vsego nailucego.
[05:26] <pin1> rww: thanks!
[05:26] <xrdodrx> I'm trying to add the user "fredrick" to the group "vboxusers" with the command "sudo useradd -G vboxusers fredrick" the shell returns "useradd: user 'fredrick' already exists" Any idea why?
[05:26] <pin1> bullgard4: OMG! Are you Russian?
[05:26] <Dan39> im trying to mount a directory on ubuntu server, on my local computer(not ubuntu) using sshfs. i use this method with some other servers and it works great, but with this ubuntu server it keeps telling me read: Connection reset by peer
[05:26] <bullgard4> pin1: No. I am German.
[05:26] <Dan39> i can ssh in just fine, but sshfs is not working :|
[05:27] <pin1> bullgard4: =D Nice. Auf Wiedersehn
[05:27] <Dan39> any ideas...?
[05:27] <cvam> envygeeks:no the drive is not in use
[05:27] <raskall> my computer just went crazy, now whenever I turn it on I get an error message at the login screen and it says "Install prolem! The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly.  Please contact your computer administrator"
[05:28] <raskall> then when I try to log in, with my username and password, and just flashes black and then goes back to the login screen
[05:28] <raskall> so I can't log in
[05:28] <confezzor> nicolas you can check out this one
[05:28] <Logan_> raskall: According to what I found on Google, it could be because your hard disk space is low.
[05:28] <confezzor> http://darktable.sourceforge.net/index.shtml
[05:28] <confezzor> or
[05:29] <Edisto> when i do 'man' for manual on something how do i kill the process again so i can get out?
[05:29] <Toph2> raskall,,, mine did the same until i logged in with Gnome Classic
[05:29] <rww> Edisto: q
[05:29] <xrdodrx> Edisto, hit the q key
[05:29] <raskall> Logan_: is there anyway to get a command promppt?
[05:29] <Edisto> thanks
[05:29] <cvam> the ls command tells there are  2 links for a file. if  I use "find -inum 2341" it gives only one filepath which I know.How can I find another link to a file
[05:29] <raskall> Toph2: I keep trying to login with classic
[05:29] <nicolas> confezzor - awesome, I will check them out - thanks
[05:29] <Toph2> raskall,,, ok,, that worked for me
[05:29] <raskall> Toph2: thanks though
[05:29] <confezzor> or just go with f-spot...
[05:29] <Toph2> np
[05:30] <confezzor> but darktable is really good
[05:30] <confezzor> and np...anytime
[05:30] <Logan_> raskall: ctrl-alt-f1
[05:31] <balleyne> where can I find my Gnome user picture? (e.g. the image I see when I click 'About Me...', displayed for example on the login screen)
[05:31] <xrdodrx> Nevermind, fixed it with "sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers fredrick" thanks anyway :)
[05:31] <Edisto> i did 'cc filerun.c' it created a a.out but not a filerun file to run what did i do wrong?
[05:32] <gohdan> trying to play the output from an mplayer capture. any ideas what im doing wrong?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/636732/
[05:34] <gohdan> the stream is usually played via their flash based webplayer. pulled the url from tshark
[05:34] <raskall> Logan_: thank you very much, cleared some space and it works
[05:36] <Logan_> raskall: You're welcome.
[05:37] <Edisto> hmm... i see -o is not the same as in ubuntu... how do you compile a file in unbuntu using cc or gcc? i'm trying cc -o filerun.c but its saying no input file
[05:38] <Random832> Edisto: huh?
[05:38] <Random832> not the same as what? where does that work?
[05:38] <Edisto> unix system
[05:38] <Random832> uh, no
[05:38] <gohdan> i can always 'mplayer c2c.aac' on the dump but that doesnt give me fluid, realtime output.
[05:38] <Random832> you can do "cc -o filerun filerun.c"
[05:38] <Random832> -o is output file specifier
[05:38] <Random832> "cc -o filerun.c" works exactly nowhere
[05:39] <rww> Edisto: perhaps you're looking for cc -o nameofcreatedexecutablehere sourcefilehere.c
[05:39] <Edisto> lol thanks random i knew i forgot something
[05:39] <Edisto> yeah i forgot to put the file name in front
[05:40] <den1> hi guys
[05:40] <Random832> you can also just "cc filerun.c" and get "a.out" as the executable
[05:41] <Fox__> here is a picture of what my screen shows after clicking install Ubuntu (using 11.04, from CD) with flashign Caps lock and Scroll Lock.  http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g432/Tyler_Cantrell/Photo07012328.jpg
[05:41] <den1> thanks guys for info
[05:41] <den1> so what is today topic
[05:43] <Edisto> and how do i execute a.out it doesn't work by just typing a.out in console
[05:43] <rww> Edisto: ./a.out
[05:43] <rww> the current working directory is not part of $PATH (for very good reasons), so it isn't looked in when you type an executable name
[05:43] <Edisto> ahhh thanks
[05:44] <htmlinprogress> hi everyone !)
[05:44] <Dan39> nevermind think i found the problem... dumb host has empty sshd_config :|
[05:46] <Babu> hello people out there i got one question... does anyone know how to install third part soft ware to ubuntu linux
[05:47] <confezzor> what type of software  you trying to install
[05:47] <bazhang> Babu, what package name
[05:49] <Babu> time watcher for internet cafee
[05:49] <Fox__> Used Offical download from ubuntu for the iso, used DAEMON tools Pro to burn to a sony CD-R at 10x speed. Computer is running Asus P5P800 Motherboard with 2GB ram, 250GBHDD and Pentium 4 3.3Ghz. Disk boots fine but i get the same thing on try ubuntu, Install ubuntu, and the check disk for errors options. http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g432/Tyler_Cantrell/Photo07012328.jpg With flashing...
[05:49] <Fox__> ...keyboard Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights. Please help?
[05:49] <preecher> ive added 2-3 ppa's to software sources while getting some extrs icon themes---is it ok to remove these ppa's now?
[05:49] <bazhang> Babu, the exact name is time-watcher?
[05:50] <bis0n> hello all
[05:50] <bazhang> preecher, sure. you can use ppa-purge
[05:50] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | preecher
[05:50] <preecher> bazhang thx-)
[05:50] <van7hu> hello, could anyone help me with ld, ld -lc does not work
[05:51] <bis0n> anyone know how to compile an VB .net application for windows CE?
[05:51] <bazhang> Babu, please tell us the exact package name
[05:51] <Babu> yes time-watcher
[05:51] <bazhang> bis0n, ##windows
[05:51] <bis0n> ok
[05:51] <Babu> package is ubuntu version 9
[05:51] <Babu> also i got linux-mint version 9
[05:52] <rww> !mintsupport | Babu
[05:53] <woonix> and say hi to the crickets while you're there. hah
[05:53] <confezzor> Babu is that a windows program
[05:53] <Babu> linux-mint is a debian which does not delivered from ubuntu
[05:53] <rww> Babu: I know what Linux Mint is. It's not supported in #ubuntu.
[05:53] <Babu> yes time-watcher is the a windows program
[05:54] <confezzor> just use wine...it might install it might not
[05:54] <Babu> linux mint run as a stand alone operating system
[05:54] <Babu> how do i install wine
[05:54] <semitones> I came here for the toaster pastry?
[05:55] <rww> Babu: go ask the support channel for your distribution
[05:55] <confezzor> go into the synaptic and look for wine
[05:55] <confezzor> install that and playonlinux just for more support
[05:56] <Babu> synaptic is something found i software center eh?
[05:56] <confezzor> yea you can do the software center as well
[05:56] <confezzor> either or doesn't matter
[05:56] <confezzor> lol
[05:57] <Babu> alright confezzor
[05:57] <yagoo> anyone knows of a stable plugin/extension(not theme) for firefox (want to make it easy to have grey for body background on all webpages)
[05:57] <confezzor> yea
[05:58] <Babu> i am not good user of linux that why i got stack there..
[05:58] <confezzor> it's cool..just download wine and playonlinux in the software center..tell me when you do that
[05:58] <confezzor> and i'll walk you through the rest...like i said this might work or not..
[06:00] <gohdan> Babu: after you grab wine, dont forget the nifty 'winefile' command. it is a familiar, windows explorer-like file manager :)
[06:00] <confezzor> and so i forgot winetricks if it's not add already in the install
[06:00] <confezzor> added*
[06:01] <Babu> oh so wine reate file manager in ubuntu where i can use to install other software
[06:01] <gohdan> confezzor: i dont think it is. at least it wasnt for me. will have to grab it manually.
[06:02] <confezzor> it know's now to work with dill files that windows uses
[06:02] <confezzor> yea same here...but in some distro's for some reason when you install wine it adds it...it's weird
[06:03] <Fox__> Installing Natty 11.04 and after selecting Install Ubuntu or Try Ubuntu or Check disk for errors i get a screen full of numbers and text reading things like [0.000000] BUG: Bad page state in process swapper  pfn:3a1f9. Keyboard lights flashing as well. have link to screenshot if needed.
[06:03] <cvam> the ls command tells there are  2 links for a file. if  I use "find -inum 2341" it gives only one filepath which I know.How can I find another link to a file
[06:03] <confezzor> Fox__  how did you install your distro..by usb or dvd?
[06:04] <gohdan> Fox__:  also note the photobucket image from earlier too
[06:05] <Fox__> CD-R Iso from the offical site. Used DAEMON tools pro to burn the .iso to a Sony CD-R capable of 1x-48x.. burned the disk at slowest possible speed (10x)
[06:05] <confezzor> also if you are using i think it's the i386 architecture ubuntu doesn't support it anymore..or that's what they said
[06:05] <Babu> this web for wine requires me to login by using ubuntu but for the meantime iam just login using windows
[06:05] <confezzor> in 11.04 that is
[06:05] <scarylarry> !nomodeset
[06:06] <confezzor> don't use that web thing..just install wine, winetricks and playonlinux
[06:08] <ok_wait> hi all, i'm trying to record/capture my desktop and well i took a video of the screen and this was all i got http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_011-3oS7RS9V.jpeg for the duration of the video. i could see the mouse moving around but nautilus was maximized during the entire recording. anybody have any suggestions? what's broken so i can google it?
[06:08] <confezzor> i need a better GPU for mining bitcoin....this sucks....Babu did you install the packages yet
[06:09] <rypervenche> ok_wait: What are you using to record it?
[06:09] <Babu> does which already included in ubuntu? coz i went to web for download
[06:09] <ok_wait> recordmydesktop
[06:09] <rypervenche> ok_wait: It can happen with theora. Using ffmpeg to record is a good idea.
[06:10] <gohdan> confezzor: i use a gentoo cluster of old machines. probably not as efficient, but man its fun.
[06:10] <Babu> yes the ubuntu package is side by side in this laptop with windows
[06:10] <ok_wait> rypervenche, thanks i'll check that out
[06:10] <rypervenche> ok_wait: Get ffmpeg and x264 here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[06:11] <confezzor> nice gohdan ..i was getting like 700 second and now i'm not sure whats going on..i'm going like 40 a second
[06:11] <rypervenche> ok_wait: I've got a script to automatically record my screen you can use it if you like. Just change the variables at the beginning to your liking. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19330159/Scripts/screencast.sh
[06:11] <Fox__> ok tried to install using the nomodeset and same error
[06:12] <ok_wait> rypervenche, wow thank you very much
[06:12] <confezzor> Babu what do you mean you have windows side by side...i'm confussed
[06:12] <scarylarry> just installed linux 11.04 and trying to boot but it seems stuck after stopping system runlevel compatibility and just a flashing cursor
[06:13] <confezzor> and Babu i see what this application does..you can do this normally in ubuntu without this kind of software
[06:14] <Babu> ok confezzor tell me how can i do it normally?
[06:14] <gohdan> confezzor: 40-700khash!?
[06:14] <Babu> confezzor my laptop got ubuntu and windows
[06:15] <confezzor>  well i was doing 700 to 900khash but know it just dropped like 5 mins ago to like 20 to 40 sec
[06:15] <confezzor> but now
[06:16] <confezzor> it might be this distro..i'm trying something new called linuxcoin...it's a distro based on just bitcoin...it might be the software
[06:17] <confezzor> Babu are you trying to set this up for your children? if you don't mind me asking
[06:17] <cryptodira> 10.10 amd/64.....  what am i doing incorrectly, that evolution 2.30.3 does NOT automatically restart after a reboot, even tho it is listed in the startup folder, nor, does it restart if i do a save of currently running programs just before a reboot.....  ??
[06:17] <confezzor> you will need to go into system and than look for users and groups
[06:17] <Babu> tim-watcher used to manage users session when they login to their accounts and admin could just give a user one hour to login.. when the time expire the user is automatically logged out
[06:17] <confezzor> i believe...i'm not on a ubuntu box right now
[06:18] <Babu> i am jst setting for the internet cafe
[06:18] <confezzor> oh ok it's for a business
[06:18] <gohdan> confezzor: thats an extremely low hash rate to be running on a gpu.
[06:18] <gohdan> Babu: you will probably not be able to run a windows based user management tool on ubuntu in the manner you are attempting.
[06:18] <confezzor> gohdan: even at 700 to 900 or you talking about the 40...yea i know
[06:19] <gohdan> the windows tool will not control users or most services in on the ubuntu host machine
[06:19] <confezzor> yea...go into system/ administrator and look for usergroups
[06:19] <Babu> so what is the solution for such kind of problem
[06:20] <scarylarry> what's tty2 commands to go into the gui?
[06:20] <yagoo> scarylarry, tty2 is not gui
[06:20] <gohdan> confezzor: both. see http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=1628.0
[06:21] <scarylarry> right and to boot into the gui
[06:21] <scarylarry> from tty2
[06:21] <van7hu> startx
[06:21] <scarylarry> thx
[06:21] <yagoo> scarylarry, X server starts listening(after started) on a new tty..
[06:22] <gohdan> scarylarry: alternatively you can launch a display manager and have that handle your X session
[06:22] <cryptodira> 10.10 amd/64.....  what am i doing incorrectly, that evolution 2.30.3 does NOT automatically restart after a reboot, even tho it is listed in the startup folder, nor, does it restart if i do a save of currently running programs just before a reboot.....  ??
[06:22] <Babu> confezzor i want to know if i am goin into usergroups can i manage the user sessions
[06:22] <nicolas> confezzor, you still on?
[06:23] <scarylarry> display manager?
[06:23] <confezzor> gohdan: oh wow..i should be getting 2518728...i'm going to try it on ubuntu 10.10 like it says to
[06:23] <confezzor> nicolas yea
[06:23] <confezzor> ?
[06:23] <nicolas> confezzor, I like the dark table, but still wanting to fix this version of shotwell, you have any ideas that I could try?
[06:24] <confezzor> let me go see real quick nicolas..give me a few to look up something
[06:24] <nicolas> thank
[06:24] <gohdan> scarylarry: such as 'GDM' or 'KDM' etc
[06:25] <Babu> i have got twenty computers at this place and user loggin though i cannt manage their sessions
[06:25] <mrdeb> hmm
[06:25] <scarylarry> ok, i startx'ed but now all i got is a blank splash screen
[06:26] <quabbe> you can also use the command kdm gdm directly like startx
[06:26] <quabbe> if a windowmanager is installed
[06:27] <scarylarry> and will that work if the hardware can't handle it?
[06:27] <gohdan> quabbe: TWM comes with X IIRC
[06:27] <quabbe> did you use nvidia card?
[06:27] <scarylarry> no it's a s*** 2mb mattrox
[06:28] <quabbe> normally should work it but you dont have any 3D
[06:28] <yagoo> !xsession
[06:29] <scarylarry> maybe i should just buy a better pci graphics card, the agp slot is not working on this mobo.
[06:30] <Babu> yes session
[06:30] <gohdan> scarylarry: X should run fine on the lower end card. i have a machine running openbox on top of a 4mb virge
[06:30] <scarylarry> xsession
[06:30] <scarylarry> ok
[06:31] <scarylarry> i'll try
[06:31] <yagoo> scarylarry, you need either an ~/.xinitrc or ~/.Xsession ... to start up your window-manager, etc etc..
[06:31] <confezzor> nicolas did you download all the dependencies for shotwell
[06:31] <confezzor> you using 11.04 right
[06:31] <nicolas> I did, per their site
[06:31] <nicolas> yes
[06:31] <yagoo> scarylarry, if gnome is installed u probably just need like gnome-session in the xsess/xinit file
[06:32] <confezzor> ok lets try this
[06:32] <yagoo> scarylarry, if you want openbox or something like fvwm, you of course don't type gnome-session
[06:33] <confezzor> you using a 86x or a 64bit computer
[06:33] <lighta> hi guys, hey quick question since vlc chan seem dead, how to display timestamp on video ?
[06:33] <nicolas> confezzor - 64 bit
[06:34] <gohdan> i am trying to stream audio with mplayer and capture the output at the same time. any idea what im doing wrong?  my workaround right now is to open two seperate streams, which is not the desired result. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/636732/
[06:35] <scarylarry> i hardly know anything about linux, so what would i add to my boot options or type in to tty2 to get it to work
[06:35] <gohdan> the second line just captures but does not output
[06:35] <Babu> confezzor i will check you oline later iam just leaving
[06:35] <confezzor> ok..
[06:35] <Anthraxium-64> Hi. This is my SSH hosts, I'm using the same password for all of them, and for my mail.  Therefor I'll pay my price. SSH: <IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS> / <IP_ADDRESS> - remon / yoboy=0359
[06:37] <quabbe> did you installed an wm scarrylarry?
[06:37] <yagoo> scarylarry, ??
[06:37] <yagoo> scarylarry, get "what"?
[06:37] <gry> Anthraxium-64: What are you trying to do?
[06:38] <scarylarry> a gui that will work
[06:38] <yagoo> scarylarry, ??
[06:38] <lighta> gohdan, did you try ffmpeg ?
[06:38] <yagoo> scarylarry, you didn't install X? are you an admin on this system?
[06:38] <scarylarry> yes
[06:38] <quabbe> any error messages during boot time?
[06:38] <yagoo> scarylarry, if you're new to linux.. i don't know what you're trying to do
[06:38] <Product> Hey.
[06:38] <gohdan> lighta:  in what manner?
[06:38] <sunson> how can I switch a loop back interface to go to NOARP mode?
[06:39] <Product> Test-
[06:39] <Product> Hi all.
[06:39] <gry> Product: Salut.
[06:39] <confezzor> nicolas you still there
[06:39] <scarylarry> are you saying in other words, forget it?
[06:39] <Product> gry: Salut :)
[06:39] <lighta> well here ffserver, wich do exactly the same thing as you asking
[06:39] <nicolas> yup
[06:39] <etcetera_> anyone know of a PPA that hosts mono 2.10.2 packages?
[06:39] <yagoo> sunson, guessing maybe you'd have to recompile or something..
[06:39] <confezzor> question is the whole application not working? and when you installed 11.04 was it not working out the box?
[06:40] <lighta> when I try it was really easy, anyway from you're past he seem to not reach the socket wich is a network issue
[06:40] <sunson> yagoo: eh? recompile? :)
[06:40] <nicolas> confezzor, worked out of the box, I tried importing some photos and it crashed, after restart the launcher and app were all still there, but it is like its a dead link
[06:41] <nicolas> the viewer still works, but not the manager
[06:41] <confezzor> ok this site says you can try to do it in Gnome classic and do the install...you can try that way..maybe something with the install using the full unity system..
[06:41] <lighta> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:41] <lighta> is that you ?
[06:41] <nicolas> so log into classic and reinstall?
[06:41] <RobotFood> Does anyone know how I can edit the options that appear on GRUB at boot?
[06:41] <lighta> gohdan, ??
[06:41] <confezzor> first uninstall it
[06:41] <confezzor> from unity
[06:41] <nicolas> ok
[06:41] <confezzor> and than do the gnome classic
[06:42] <confezzor> try that..i'll be here if it doesn't
[06:42] <nicolas> cool, let me go try that
[06:42] <confezzor> ok
[06:42] <lighta> ?grub
[06:42] <lighta> !grub
[06:44] <RobotFood> Is there a GUI frontend for configuring GRUB?
[06:45] <quabbe> robot food look in the directory boot
[06:45] <xrdodrx> RobotFood, gedit
[06:46] <RobotFood> GUI front end
[06:46] <RobotFood> not text editor
[06:46] <RobotFood> :)
[06:46] <quabbe> theres no gui under ubuntu for grub
[06:46] <gohdan> lighta: yeah, the server is up. i am streaming from it with a second instance of mplayer right now.
[06:46] <nicolas> confezzor, no beans, still dead
[06:47] <gohdan> lighta: sorry, i was making a sandwich :)
[06:47] <confezzor> ok let me see again
[06:47] <gry> robinbowes: Search for `grub conf` in Software Center.
[06:47] <gry> err
[06:47] <nicolas> goofy, you would think the uninstall would clear any previous problem
[06:47] <Abhijit> anyonne good in shell scripting?
[06:47] <lighta> ok but gohdan excuse me if this sound noob but if it's same computer you wont be able to listen you're ip, should use 127.0.0.x instead
[06:47] <gry> robinbowes: Sorry, un-ping.
[06:48] <gry> quabbe: Please see what I said and http://grubconf.sourceforge.net/ - there apparently is some.
[06:49] <Abhijit> i need to copy all the .h files from two different folders and their subfolder to another third folder. how to do this in shell script ? help?
[06:49] <lighta> rah front end suck RobotFood, you should get use to vim and texteditor ! nothing better
[06:49] <nicolas> confezzor, got it
[06:49] <gry> Abhijit: cd folder1;cp -r *.h /path/to/destination and same for folder2
[06:49] <gohdan> lighta:  the stream is on a remote server i dont control. its usually accessed via the websites flash webplayer. but, i grabbed the url from tshark and opened it in mplayer for capture
[06:50] <nicolas> deleted the hidden data file, somehow the previous crash was keeping it from opening
[06:50] <lighta> Abhijit, rsync -r ./path/to/yours/files/*.h ./path/to/the/new/files/
[06:50] <confezzor> nicolas you got what?...it's working
[06:50] <nicolas> maybe the database was blocking or something, seems to be working
[06:50] <nicolas> yup
[06:50] <confezzor> sweet...cool congrats
[06:51] <nicolas> thanks for the help, take it easy man
[06:51] <confezzor> i hate it when it's a simple thing to fix and we all try the most complicated work arounds lol
[06:51] <confezzor> you to
[06:51] <nicolas> I know it
[06:51] <confezzor> np
[06:51] <nicolas> later man
[06:51] <lighta> ok gohdan are you able to ping it ? are you sure network is ok ?
[06:52] <Abhijit> gry, cp: cannot stat `*.h': No such file or directory
[06:53] <Abhijit> lighta, rsync: link_stat "location/*.h" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[06:53] <gry> use quotes around
[06:53] <gry> "*.h" instead of *.h
[06:53] <Abhijit> ok
[06:53] <nunuyabiz> I changed my permissions for the var file to root and now my epiphany browser cannot open some web pages I have in www. does anyone know what files will affect epiphany browser?
[06:53] <lighta> Abhijit, are you in good repertory are you used with absoute and relative path ? anyway for your copy I'll suggest rsync, really good tool
[06:54] <Abhijit> lighta, ok
[06:54] <gohdan> lighta: as stated previously, i am listening to the stream from the server right now
[06:55] <lighta> ok gohdan i'll try myself with mplayer then see if I can help, what you're trying to do is an automatic script for listening is that right ?
[06:55] <lighta> listening and record ?
[06:55] <gohdan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/636732/
[06:55] <balleyne> I'm trying to enable compiz desktop effects for a laptop with an Intel 945GM graphics card, after upgrading to 11.04. Help?
[06:56] <sacarlson> what basic packages are needed for development of qt4 to compile some qt4 applications?
[06:56] <gohdan> i want to capture the stream from a SINGLE instance of mplayer, AND capture it at the same time, in the same instance
[06:57] <Senjai> I have a REALLY stupid question, it is entirely subjective, I used to program in C++ but now i wonder, what's the best language for linux?
[06:57] <lighta> so can we say record the stream vids on your hd ?
[06:57] <balleyne> Senjai: what kind of application?
[06:57] <confezzor> C++ is a good one for linux to
[06:57] <lighta> Senjai, depend what for but C++ working well in linux too, you've got gcc to compile it very easy
[06:57] <Senjai> I used C++ for DirectX and WINAPI on windows
[06:57] <sacarlson> the include file I see in the package I want to compile looks like INCPATH       = -I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4 -Isrc -Isrc/json -Isrc/cryptopp -Isrc/qt -I. -I.
[06:58] <confezzor> but pearl or ruby is good to
[06:58] <gohdan> lighta: its an audio stream of the radio show CoastToCoast AM
[06:58] <Senjai> Pearl and ruby to create entire programs?
[06:58] <Senjai> Perl*
[06:58] <Senjai> Im thinking of massive projects
[06:58] <Senjai> thought python/C#/ava would be suggested
[06:58] <Senjai> Java*
[06:58] <balleyne> Senjai: if you're already familiar with C++, it's definitely a solid option for GNU/LInux.
[06:59] <joyrock> I want to dual boot my Dell PC with windows 7 and ubunru 10.10
[06:59] <lighta> I personaly prefer java, but it's because I'm use to it
[06:59] <joyrock> but unable to do that
[06:59] <joyrock> can anyone help
[06:59] <joyrock> ??
[07:00] <confezzor> joyrock install windows 7 first and than ubuntu
[07:00] <balleyne> Senjai: Python is a popular one, with PyGTK and PyQt and such. Java, I guess if the goal is more cross-platform maybe? C# is controversial, because of the .NET licensing and Mono and everything -- there are free software implementations for GNU/Linux, but with a bit of a patent cloud hanging overhead. Not a great choice for *new* projects. But C++ is definitely a solid option if you're already familiar with it.
[07:01] <balleyne> Senjai: C++ might be a little low-level or overkill when that kind of performance isn't necessary, and I think that's why some people go for languages like Python. But there are lots of GNU/Linux applicatoins written in C++, especially applications were performance is key.
[07:02] <lighta> I hate C# for .net yeah
[07:02] <joyrock> confessor I have installed ein 7
[07:02] <Senjai> balleyne,  thank you, can you elaborate on C++ being low level?
[07:02] <Senjai> lighta, i just like the coding style
[07:02] <joyrock> confezzor but what happened that ubuntu is saying my free space as unused
[07:03] <lighta> well C is more for performance yeah, C++ I dunno may depend on you're processor, what exactly are you working on ?
[07:04] <balleyne> Senjai: actually, I guess I'm more familiar with C than C++, but say with things like memory allocation or garbage collection. My understanding is that you have more responsibility for that kind of stuff in C++, whereas with Java or Python or C#, there are more library and built-in tools available to handle things...
[07:04] <Abhijit> how can i check which is my default shell?
[07:05] <confezzor> joyrock do you have an open partition on that drive you using?
[07:05] <tntc> Senjai: I don't know very much about C++, but that's because I'm too lazy to learn it. My plan is to stick with Java and Python where I can, and C# and .NET where I must.
[07:05] <tntc> Senjai: ditto for C and ASM
[07:05] <balleyne> Abhijit: echo $SHELL   (I think?)
[07:05] <joyrock> confezzor open partition means ???
[07:05] <Abhijit> balleyne, yah. thanks.
[07:06] <gry> Abhijit: chsh
[07:06] <Abhijit> :-o
[07:06] <Abhijit> gry, it ask for password?
[07:06] <Abhijit> gry, what does it do?
[07:06] <balleyne> Senjai: this seems like an interesting read: http://www.dmh2000.com/cjpr/
[07:06] <Senjai> balleyne, I understand. Java is starting to become interesting to me (after seeing minecraft deploy) tntc, thank you for your contribution, ASM is a  pain indeed
[07:07] <gry> Abhijit: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1262577
[07:07] <balleyne> Abhijit: man chsh (it's for changing the login shell)
[07:07] <amyleto> Y'all might not know, but I wanted to ask anyway.  The other day, I ran some updates, though I'm not sure what all I ran updates on.  When those updates ran, my lock button in the "Quit-Log Out" app on AWN broke.  The lock command from the gnome menu still works fine.  I'm on LUCID
[07:07] <Senjai> balleyne, i dont see the power from java though, it lags with every app i use it with
[07:07] <Abhijit> gry, i do not want to change. i just want to know.
[07:07] <amyleto> I guess that's not really a question, I'm just wondering how to fix it
[07:08] <tntc> Senjai: I actually liked writing MIPS ASM, but it's sort of like using a 10lb sledge to hammer in a nail to hang a picture.
[07:08] <gry> Abhijit: Just ^C it when it asks. It won't change, then.
[07:08] <balleyne> Senjai: yeah, C++ gives you much better performance, whereas Java maybe has more tools for a programmer to use. There are tradeoffs, Java's definitely a slower language at runtime compared to C++
[07:08] <Senjai> tntc, I could never wrap my head around asm, and with x64 i hear its nearly impossible, if you have any book reccomendations please let me know
[07:08] <Abhijit> gry, ok
[07:08] <tntc> Senjai: I imagine a lot of the slowness of modern java is just bad coding practices. Good code is fast. Bad code isn't. :)
[07:08] <Senjai> balleyne, but java does more work behind the scenes, I believe complete control of my code fits my style
[07:09] <Senjai> tntc, yes I agree, Java allows that, whereas C++ doesn't.. as much.
[07:09] <amyleto> I'm not seeing a way to edit the command it uses or anything like that, and I have no idea what it uses to lock.  I've tried to rebuild the AWN apps as well as XSCREENSAVER
[07:09] <tntc> Senjai: I've found that python can be slow too, but generally it's slow in places you don't care about. It's really nice for whipping some code together really fast.
[07:09] <Senjai> tntc, I thought lisp would be better than python for those cases?
[07:09] <Senjai> balleyne, I'm going to read that essay after making ome tea
[07:10]  * Senjai wonders if anyone has any programming book reccomendations (other than C++)
[07:10]  * Senjai or sites :P
[07:10]  * amyleto feels like she wandered in on the same conversation she left in here 6 months ago
[07:10] <tntc> Senjai: throwing together a prototype? Eh. From what I've seen of Lisp, it's elegent, but not easy to work with. too many parenthesis.
[07:10] <john_rambo> Hi, I want to remove pulseaudio ....I found this >>http://is.gd/ViNFUF ....Which post shoul I follow ? 133 or 134 ? or please tell me the command
[07:10] <john_rambo> running 11.04
[07:10] <Senjai> tntc, I know racket and schem so I'm used to it :P. it works within emacs flawlessly too.. that's my excuse
[07:11] <balleyne> Senjai: cool, I haven't read it, was just skimming it for confirmation of my impressions of C++. Looks like it might have some interesting comparisons *shrugs*
[07:11] <Senjai> balleyne, tntc, do either of you have site/book reccomendations?
[07:11] <tntc> Senjai: "Learning Python" from O'Reilly is pretty good, and http://tinyurl.com/thinkcspy is supposed to be excellent.
[07:11] <amyleto> I second Learning Python
[07:11] <amyleto> You usually can't go wrong with O'Reilly books
[07:12] <balleyne> I'm trying to get Compiz working with an Intel 945GM graphics card after upgrade to 11.04. Help? Got an error when first trying to log into Unity about desktop effects, and now compiz seems disabled...
[07:12] <Senjai> Book marked ti
[07:12] <Senjai> both
[07:12] <Senjai> Any other sites/book suggestions for Java/Python/Perl etc.. books
[07:12] <Senjai> I used to use Gamedev.net for programming questions
[07:13] <tntc> Senjai: My suggestion is to avoid perl, from personal experience. It's really really fun when you're first learning it, but all the object oriented stuff feels kludged together to me.
[07:13] <amyleto> If you learn a lot by example the O'Reilly cookbooks can be useful tools
[07:13] <balleyne> Senjai: legendary Python versus Perl article from ESR: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882
[07:13] <tntc> Senjai: It's hard to beat CPAN in terms of sheer number of modules, but I spent a lot of time fooling around with Perl defaults.
[07:14] <cafezim> hi
[07:14] <Senjai> tntc, I've never programmed it before all i know is it integrates well in webservers
[07:14]  * Senjai is entirely ignorant pertaining to perl
[07:14] <cafezim> i get message from ubuntu that my du