[08:17] <Despero> hey, does anyone know why Firefox auto-update isn't working for me in Ubuntu?
[08:17] <IndyGunFreak> Is there a limit on the folder size an ipod can sync with?
[08:17] <Alysum> really ?
[08:17] <n2diy_> jlei:   you pinged what, I asked you to run ifconfig, and report what your ethernet cand was.
[08:18] <ramorek> jlei : hmm
[08:18] <n2diy_> cand/card
[08:18] <thully> Despero: it doesn't work because it is included with Ubuntu updates
[08:18] <Despero> okay, so that's purposeful then
[08:18] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, really, so maybe thats why it is slow, because it needs swap but since is higher than 2gb...
[08:18] <clutchmm> n2diy_: any ideas as to why gparted won't give me the option to resize the FAT32 partition of my external drive?
[08:18] <sx67> PurpZeY: Do you know how to fix the resolution on an intel extreme graphics card on a Dell 710m...
[08:18] <Despero> thanks, that's what I was wondering
[08:18] <thully> all updates to firefox come through there
[08:18] <Small_Mac> Flannel k, srry been googling, i'll try that, thx
[08:18] <Small_Mac> !grub
[08:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:18] <Despero> that makes sense
[08:18] <Despero> cool
[08:18] <ramorek> jlei : ping yourself (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:19] <n2diy_> clutchmm: is it a Dell machine?
[08:19] <Alysum> but thats funny if there is a big swap instead of taking advantage of it it doesnt uses it
[08:19] <PurpZeY> sx67: Not specifically...You can change your res in xorg.conf, but I don't know anything about particular issues with that.
[08:19] <jlei> n2diy_: i pinged <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:19] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, yeah that's right
[08:19] <clutchmm> n2diy_: nope, it's an MSI laptop
[08:19] <gwark> hi guys ... where does synaptic download the files to?   i'm reformatting and down want to re-download everything
[08:19] <ramorek> jlei : do you have more than one eth card ?
[08:19] <jlei> n2diy_: it's what ifconfig reported as inet addr
[08:20] <n2diy_> jlei:   is that your ethernet card?
[08:20] <Flannel> gwark: all apt stuff uses /var/cache/apt
[08:20] <jlei> ramorek: I have eth0 and eth1
[08:20] <sx67> brb
[08:20] <ramorek> jlei : are both enabled ?
[08:20] <jlei> n2diy_: that was under eth0
[08:20] <gwark> Flannel, thankyou kindly :D
[08:20] <jlei> ramorek: yes
[08:20] <thully> does anyone know of a good itunes alternative for using iPods in Linux?
[08:20] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, you will have to resize your partition
[08:20] <Flannel> !ipod | thully
[08:20] <ubotu> thully: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:20] <ramorek> jlei : disable the one your not using
[08:20] <n2diy_> jlei:   is that your ethernet card, reported as eth0?
[08:20] <mdkaneda55> hey anyone ever have a prob where at login the GDM login picture stays on screen for quite a while, then no KDE applications work at all, when any ran in terminal, output says something about "only one line in DCOPServer file !"      Just put the feisty CD in, and start installation
[08:22] <jlei> shoot, did I disconnect?
[08:23] <Alysum> its odd qtparted says my swap is 2GB
[08:23] <jlei> n2diy_:
[08:23] <jlei> jlei@jlei-laptop:~$ ifup eth0
[08:23] <jlei> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[08:23] <Alysum> whist it says 4gb in top cmd
[08:23] <RoAkSoAx> jlei, run sudo ifup eth0
[08:23] <ramorek> jlei : your still here
[08:23] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, use: free
[08:23] <jlei> oh right
[08:23] <jlei> duh
[08:23] <n2diy_> jlei:   ok, what happens when you run,   sudo ifup eth0?
[08:24] <Alysum> free says 4096544
[08:24] <jlei> n2diy_:
[08:24] <jlei> jlei@jlei-laptop:~$ sudo ifup eth0
[08:24] <jlei> Password:
[08:24] <jlei> ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[08:24] <Small_Mac> Flannel ok, but i wanna fix my grub menu, it's all wierd right now, so many options, one of which is: window xp embedded (what the heck is this), and ubuntu 2.6.10, ubuntu 2.6.10 recovery mode (what is this lol), and also ubuntu 2.6.11 (where did this come from)
[08:24] <ramorek> anyone : im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> does anyone know why i can sync all but about 6 songs from my music folder, to my ipod, and i have about 1.8gigs free on my ipod?
[08:24] <ramorek>  im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:24] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, so it is 4 gb
[08:24] <n2diy_> jlei:   and you can't ping eth0?
[08:25] <thully> what software are you using w/ your iPod?
[08:25] <jlei> n2diy_: no, I could ping eth0
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> banshee
[08:25] <Small_Mac> Flannel also i'd like it to boot into windows by default as u mentioned earlier =) thx
[08:25] <jlei> n2diy_, ramorek: perhaps it was the second ethernet card that was causing trouble after all
[08:25] <n2diy_> jlei:   pinging eth0 works, no errores?
[08:25] <jlei> Firefox finds things now
[08:25] <Alysum> RoAkSoAx: how come it says 2GB in qtparted partition properties then ?
[08:25] <jlei> n2diy_: yes
[08:25] <thully> could the 6 songs be in a non-iPod supported format (i.e. ogg vorbis etc)
[08:25] <Small_Mac> Flannel i was thinking of erasing edgy first because i tried to manually install ndiswrapper and right now that's creating complicated problems
[08:25] <ramorek>  im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:26] <jlei> n2diy_: actually everything works now
[08:26] <jlei> n2diy_: I didn't do anything except turn off my wireless card
[08:26] <theshadow> how can I check hard drive statistics from the command line?
[08:26] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, dont really know but try booting on recovery mode and change partition size with fdisk
[08:26] <ramorek> jlei : i have 2 NIC's and i disable the one not in use
[08:26] <Flannel> Small_Mac: No idea what the XP embedded is, but each of those versions is a different kernel version (each time you get a new kernel).  And all kernels have a standard, and recovery console.  So, # of kernels * 2 + others is the number of items you have.  Nothing "messed up" about it.  If you want to get rid of the extra kernels, you can remvoe them (linux-image-version) from whatever package manager you want (synaptic, for instance).  I
[08:26] <clutchmm> n2diy_: do I need to unmount the drive do partition it?
[08:26] <Alysum> ok
[08:26] <jlei> n2diy_, ramorek: that seemed to have worked :)
[08:27] <jlei> I can also ping the router now
[08:27] <theshadow> clutchmm: I would strongly reccommend that you umount it :P
[08:27] <ramorek> jlei : good stuff
[08:27] <Flannel> Small_Mac: If you reinstall feisty, all the stuff from edgy (including GRUB stuff) will be removed.  So you can remove edgy, the install feisty, or just install feisty.  Both with the same result
[08:27] <gabbarinho> my video resolution options seem to be limited - is there a way I can fix this? I do have the proper drivers installed
[08:27] <ramorek> can somone help me plz ?
[08:27] <ramorek>  im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:27] <jlei> n2diy_, ramorek: thanks guys
[08:27] <n2diy_> jlei:  Cool, sounds like a irJq conlfict o or somethin like that?
[08:27] <ramorek> jlei : no prob
[08:27] <Small_Mac> Flannel thx very much for the info, copy/pasting it down =), also does it matter which kernel i boot into, is that wasting my disk space, and would i see the same files in both kernels?
[08:27] <Flannel> Small_Mac: But, booting windows by default is a grub configuration thing (easily done).  Pretty much independant of everything else.
[08:28] <n2diy_> clutchmm: yes.
[08:28] <ramorek> n2diy_ :  im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:28] <theshadow> grayscale: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:28] <n2diy_> jlei:  Cool, GL.
[08:28] <thully> does anyone know how to rip AAC in Ubuntu?  The wiki instructions produce unusable AAC files...
[08:28] <Flannel> Small_Mac: Your newer kernels have bugfixes and stuff (thats why we get kernel updates).  They both boot to the same rest-of-OS though.  So, almost all of the bugfixes, you won't notice (theyre security/hardware/other behind the scene stuff)
[08:29] <n2diy_> ramorek: I don't know.
[08:29] <ramorek> ohhh ok
[08:29] <Small_Mac> Flannel i think i messed up some stuff in edgy, no idea what hehe, would feisty erase whatever i did to mess things up? and thx for answering all that questions
[08:29] <ramorek> does anyone know what the login.defs file is ?
[08:29] <olivier> Hello everyone, is there anyone familiar with Cedega, and that would be nice enough to lend me some spare time explaining me how to configure it for Guild Wars?
[08:29] <Flannel> Small_Mac: yeah.  Removing edgy and then installing feisty accomplishes the same thing as simply installing feisty.    It'll overwrite everything
[08:32] <tru3_man> How to break up Interet?
[08:32] <ramorek> Flannel :  im updating and i get "Replace the customized config file /etc/login.defs" should i keep or replace
[08:32] <ramorek> Flannel :  any ideas ?
[08:32] <Small_Mac> Flannel yay, great, srry for next newbie question: it'd erase both existing kernels right, and also how do i config grub to boot window by default, thx
[08:32] <ramorek> is there any way to view all usrs in this chat ?
[08:33] <Flannel> ramorek: Did you purposefully/knowingly change anything in there?  if not, then overwrite it.
[08:33] <ramorek> Flannel :  ok cool
[08:33] <ramorek> Flannel :  i dont remember maybe if its for beryl ?
[08:34] <n2diy_> ramorek: Yea, LOL now, but back then the restore involved 50 floppies, and three hours at the box. Not fun!
[08:34] <olivier> I repeat my humble request for help: Does anyone have knowledge about the configuration of Cedega? I can't get it to work right with Guild Wars.
[08:34] <Flannel> Small_Mac: Yes. It'll erase everything.  For grub, you'd edit your grub config (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and you'll add one line (safedefault) at the end of your windows entry, and then change the "default" option at the top to "saved" instead of 0.  But, probably be better to ask that after you've installed, since any changes you do now will get erased.
[08:34] <ronocdh> olivier: have you tried the Gaming & Leisure section of the Ubuntu Forums?
[08:34] <tru3_man> Why did beryl think of in general? He brakes the system only (
[08:35] <tru3_man> do I pound from those decorations?
[08:35] <ronocdh> also, have you checked the Cedega site and assured that it supports Guild Wars officially?
[08:35] <n2diy_> bye
[08:35] <Small_Mac> Flannel thx so much, i'll go reinstall now, thx =)
[08:35] <olivier> ronocdh: It is supposed to. Along with my GeForce FX 5200, it is reported to work.
[08:35] <ramorek> OMG !!!!!!!
[08:35] <ramorek>  IM GOING TO SHOOT THIS OS
[08:35] <ramorek> LOL
[08:35] <ronocdh> ok, that's good. have you asked the chaps over at the Gaming & Leisure
[08:35] <ramorek> here we go agaiin
[08:36] <n2diy_> system disconnect
[08:36] <GSquared> ahhh, im getting closer to a good question!:  In X11 I have configured 2 ServerLayout sections for 2 different monitor configurations.  How can I determine with ServerLayout gets used when x11 starts? via the xsession files in /usr/share/xsessions/
[08:36] <n2diy_> I'll be back.
[08:37] <olivier> ronocdh: Rather than asking them, I went around their forums, and searched for the answer. I see the problem I'm seeking to solve, try the solutions, but they don't work right. Must be a rare bug or something.
[08:37] <Assassin`> whats good for video taping beryl
[08:37] <Assassin`> or just like making a video of what your doing
[08:37] <Assassin`> :)
[08:37] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: I've used istanbul with mixed results.
[08:37] <n2diy_> False alarm, sorry. i'm good for 7.5 hours yet, or at least my connection is.
[08:38] <Assassin`> istanbul
[08:38] <Assassin`> is that in the synaptic
[08:38] <ronocdh> olivier: hm, I see. well I would advise you to post... I don't often visit the Gaming & Leisure section, but I've seen some great help happening there. if you do indeed have a special case, I think the odds are good that community troubleshooting will take place. ;)
[08:38] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: I mean, it works just fine...It's just not great. sudo apt-get istanbul
[08:38] <ronocdh> olivier: that said, how's your overall experience with Cedega been? I triple boot my MacBook Pro, and I only use Windows for games.
[08:38] <Assassin`> kk
[08:38] <Assassin`> thanks
[08:38] <ramorek> n2diy_ : good for 7 more hrs ?
[08:38] <Assassin`> i will try it :)
[08:38] <Assassin`> any others to try?
[08:39] <PurpZeY> I think there's one called xvid or something like that
[08:39] <PurpZeY> !info xvid
[08:39] <ubotu> Package xvid does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:39] <Flannel> Assassin`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[08:39] <olivier> ronocdh:Overall, I don't play much games, else than guild wars. The native games I played were satisfying enough.
[08:40] <Assassin`> ty
[08:40] <ronocdh> olivier: hm, ok. I'm still hooked on a mod of BF2, actually, and I hear BF2 is officially supported. I may yet check out Cedega. I'll likely give it a spin sometime this summer!
[08:40] <n2diy_> ramorek: Yes, my ISP disconnects after an 8 hour connection, regardless of what I'm doing. It is a major PITA doing down loads.
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <ramorek> n2diy_ : why is that ?
[08:41] <ramorek> n2diy_ : what ISP ?
[08:41] <olivier> ronocdh: If I get to work my problem out, windows will only stay on this little box for work.
[08:41] <michup> hi, ive question, what program can i use to create dvd format files, i mean like add menus to my video like in dvd's for example to member weding film?
[08:41] <ronocdh> n2diy_: do you have a good download manager, such as DownThemAll for Firefox, or are you just using torrents? DownThemAll has helped me out a lot at times when I had poor connectivity.
[08:41] <n2diy_> ramorek: ISP policy.
[08:41] <PurpZeY> Some policy.
[08:41] <n2diy_> ramorek: wget
[08:41] <ramorek> n2diy_ : that sucks is that in the US ?
[08:42] <ronocdh> michup: have you tried the classic video editing software suites for Linux? I would assume several, if not most or all, would support DVD creation
[08:42] <n2diy_> ramorek: yes, Carbon County Pa.
[08:42] <ramorek> i wouldnt pay for that
[08:42] <hengha`> I am on Dapper, how to only upgrade php-pear and php5 ? I tried apt-get upgrade php5 but it gave me all the available upgraded packages
[08:42] <RoAkSoAx>  n2diy_ me neither even though i dont live in the states
[08:42] <ronocdh> n2diy_: tough living, man. is that dial-up? and ramorek, in Carbon County, he doesn't really have another option!
[08:43] <ramorek> n2diy_ : oh
[08:43] <ronocdh> (correct me if I'm wrong, of course. I'm in Philly.)
[08:43] <michup> what do you mean by classic video editing?
[08:43] <r4nge> is gij-4.1 The GNU Java bytecode interpreter required for ubuntu?  perhaps a package i installed depended on it but from the looks of it it is a huge cpu hog
[08:43] <michup> i mean which one is classic?
[08:43] <ramorek> damn
[08:43] <ramorek> you cant get satellite ?
[08:44] <ramorek> thats always an option
[08:44] <ronocdh> michup: KinoDV is a popular one. I've just found a link, though, which seems to indicate that DVD menu creation support is lacking in Ubuntu =(
[08:45] <juro_6> hi, I am trying to update PHP on a Ubuntu 6.06 (server edition) to a version > 5.2 . unfortunately this doesn't work. Can anyone tell me, how I should do this?
[08:45] <n2diy_> ramorek: roncodlh, yes, it is tough here, only one phone comapany and cable company. And they inventted cable tv here!
[08:45] <sogen> Hi can someo tell me how i can copy file to usb disk by using terminal ?
[08:45] <RoAkSoAx> juro_6, if you are using apt go to packages.ubuntu.com and verify if that version is available for dapper
[08:46] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx ... checking ...
[08:46] <gabbarinho> how do I set associate extensions with programs?
[08:46] <ramorek> n2diy_ : damn, lol, but cant you do satellite link ?
[08:46] <sogen> can someo tell me how i can copy file to usb disk by using terminal ?
[08:46] <RoAkSoAx> n2diy_, if lived in tofte,mn (where is no more than a resort) and we had much better internet connection
[08:47] <ronocdh> n2diy_: ugh, that's the good ol' US of A for ya. FWIW, Congress is trying to change the definition of broadband to be much more restrictive, meaning that far fewer locations in the US would be classified as having broadband, which should get some attention on the problem. right now anything above 200kbps qualifies as "broadband"!
[08:47] <RoAkSoAx> i only have 220kbps and i pay like $30, it sucks
[08:47] <ronocdh> roaksoax: location?
[08:48] <RoAkSoAx> ronocdh, Peru
[08:48] <r4nge> i see, openoffice requires gij ;/
[08:48] <m1r> hdd transfer problem! , i installed ubuntu on my main laptop (1) , then took HDD out and switch it to old laptop (2) without any input option (no cdrom, lan port or usb boot ), then after many many errors it managed to boot and i installed wlan usb on it to get network accses, now i am stuck with diferent hardware configuration from laptop (1) on laptop (2) and i cant get video adapter to...
[08:48] <m1r> ...work on more then 800x600, any tips what to do to get it to 1024x768 ?
[08:48] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, there is no package available :( so either I upgrade to 7.04 or compile php?
[08:48] <n2diy_> ramorek: roncodlh,  Had a satellite link with my neighbor, worked great, until rain fade, snow whatever attetunuated tha signal. He moved, and I lost that connection.
[08:48] <ronocdh> roaksoax: ah, I see. man, bandwidth really should be a global priority right now. any issues with net neutrality down there?
[08:49] <RoAkSoAx> juro_6, compile or upgrade
[08:49] <ramorek> n2diy_ : damn, im grateful for my link, and were always complaining down here for fast service like verizon
[08:49] <RoAkSoAx> ronocdh, here it sucks, for 2mbps you can pay up to $300, and ISP keep using firewalls and restrict some services, it sucks
[08:49] <gabbarinho> net neutrality, net scheumality
[08:49] <gabbarinho> the internet is a series of tubes!
[08:49] <maan84> Hello, I'm in BitchX console right now:$ I used Envy program to install latest Nvidia drivers, and after restart x won't start says can't recognize screens, can i somehow install normal nvidia drivers with a sudo apt command and ill be able to get back in? thx^^
[08:50] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, ok. thanx. btw I pay about 70$ for a 1 Mbps line and 3Gb cap ...
[08:50] <ronocdh> roaksoax: wow! and I thought we here in the continental states had it bad. I'll be living in Germany for a year next year, and I can't wait. I'm sick of always getting the short end of the technological stick >=(
[08:50] <ronocdh> juro_6: location/
[08:50] <Anton99> how i can play flash games in ubuntu? .swf files...
[08:50] <n2diy_> ronocdh: yes, and they are trying to do it with broad band over powerline, which sucks, it whipes out all the hf ham radio operators, including me.
[08:50] <maan84> Or can I reset the whole x system to default somehow? =P
[08:51] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, Cape Town, South Africa. and my maximum dl speed is about 70Kb/s
[08:51] <RoAkSoAx> ronocdh, at least you have 1mbps, i only have 220kbps and a sucky service
[08:51] <mdkaneda55> maan84: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file you can change "nvidia" to "nv" or "mesa" and you'll be able to boot graphically again. or you could run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from where u are and follow instructions to reset your xorg.conf file to what u want. just make sure u pick "nv" as ur video driver instead of nvidia
[08:51] <ronocdh> anton99: have you configured the Flash plugin for Firefox? are you running 32-bit Ubuntu or 64-bit?
[08:51] <maan84> mdkaneda55 thx ill try it out =)
[08:51] <RoAkSoAx> juro_6, south america have the worst speed connection and the higher prices i believe
[08:52] <RoAkSoAx> at least in peru!!
[08:52] <maan84> lol if i can close bitcx here
[08:52] <m1r> how to reconfigure hardware when HDD moved to diferent PC ?
[08:52] <Anton99> i have 32 bit but i have  64 bit kernel 'n' proc
[08:52] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, maybe - I wouldn't know what could be worse than this though ....
[08:52] <Anton99> i can reboot to 64 bit
[08:52] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, my IRC log has more line drops than messages
[08:52] <ramorek> .
[08:53] <ronocdh> anton99: I ask because if you are running 64-bit, Kilz (in the 64-bit Forum) has an excellent script that will get you up and running in no time, it installs 32-bit Firefox and configures the Flash and Java packages
[08:53] <clutchmm> n2diy_: my external drive now has a 118gig ext3 partition that my file browser labeled "disk" to copy a folder to it in the terminal I use "sudo cp -r path/to/folder /disk/folder" right? or is there a different path to the disk?
[08:53] <RoAkSoAx> juro_6, in the mornings i'm so lagged that i cant even use irc
[08:53] <RoAkSoAx> it is useless
[08:53] <gabbarinho> linux can use a FAT32 partition for reading/writing files, right?
[08:53] <juro_6> RoAkSoAx, maybe it isn't your connection but the people who haven't had sleep ;)
[08:53] <juro_6> gabberinho, yes
[08:54] <n2diy_> clutchmm: drag and drop?
[08:54] <Anton99> ronocdh where i can get it? i have compiled ffox but i need prog who can play .swf's and .flv's
[08:54] <gabbarinho> I was thinking that if I was going to dual-boot with a windows, i'd have a common partition just for storing videos, music, etc
[08:54] <RoAkSoAx> juro_6, hahaha oh it is the freaking firewall ISP is using!!
[08:54] <ronocdh> clutchmm: that syntax seems fine. remember to look up the exact location of your external drive as /dev/sda2 or whatever
[08:54] <bastid_raZor> linux can use ntfs to read/write as well
[08:54] <ramorek> dude i fi had restrictions on what i payed for ide go nuts
[08:54] <ramorek> ide attack my isp
[08:55] <ramorek> lol
[08:55] <ronocdh> anton99: I don't have a link on-hand, but go tot he x86 Ubuntu Forums and a chap there by the name of Kilz, he is the most frequent poster there, and his sig contains scripts that are very helpful
[08:55] <PurpZeY> I had a fight with my ISP a while back.
[08:55] <clutchmm> n2diy_: I was going to try that but I didn't know if one "sudo nautilus" window and one "Places > disk" window would let me do that
[08:55] <RoAkSoAx> ramorek, i call every single day to get this fix, everytime my IP changes it is the same thing
[08:55] <Anton99> ronodchp, thx
[08:55] <n2diy_> clutchmm: go for it!
[08:55] <ramorek> dude but tell them straight out
[08:55] <PurpZeY> They wanted to limit my upstreaming b/c I was downloading torrents. Except that the were absolutely legal legit torrents. But, I am in law school and I yelled a lot and they decided to uncap my bandwidth because I am so friendly.
[08:55] <RoAkSoAx> and we always recieve DoS attacks, and im so sick of it that im starting to give my ISP DoS asweel
[08:55] <ronocdh> gabbarinho: I triple boot OS X, Windows XP, and Ubuntu, and actually for filesharing I've come to use ext3 for everything. there are excellent installable filesystems for OS X and WinXP that make ext3 very usable
[08:56] <ramorek> what ?!
[08:56] <ronocdh> anton99: gladly. sorry I don't have a link; just search for Kilz in the forums and you'll find him fast!
[08:56] <ramorek> dude theyre not supposed to monitor your info
[08:56] <Anton99> ok, thanx
[08:56] <PurpZeY> ramorek: They just noticed my upstream traffic was very high.
[08:56] <ramorek> so what
[08:56] <ramorek> you could be running a server
[08:56] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I shouldn't be.
[08:56] <ramorek> why
[08:57] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I am a residential user. If I want to run a server I can pay for commercial service.
[08:57] <ramorek> no way
[08:57] <Anton99> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 here link :P
[08:57] <ramorek> well im happy here you cant get comm access in a resi
[08:57] <pg_apprentice> are there any people here accomplished at connecting to and routing to M$ PPTP VPNs?
[08:57] <PurpZeY> ramorek: And the thing is, I am sharing bandwidth with anyone on my node, so, if I am eating upstream everyone else is getting shafted. So, when they notice a high surge of upstream they cap the account temporarily.
[08:57] <ronocdh> that's it!
[08:58] <ramorek> but you live in a complex or something ?
[08:58] <immibis> ramorek: what is a node?
[08:58] <RoAkSoAx> bye ppl
[08:58] <pg_apprentice> so far I have spent probably 20-30 hours plus at it with feisty
[08:58] <immibis> i mean PurpZeY
[08:58] <ramorek> node = pc
[08:58] <immibis> ok
[08:58] <PurpZeY> ramorek: No...But cable shares bandwidth between users.
[08:58] <ronocdh> anton99: yup that's just what I meant
[08:58] <ramorek> yup
[08:58] <immibis> ok
[08:58] <PurpZeY> immibis: huh?
[08:58] <Anton99> ok, bye-bye :P
[08:58] <ramorek> and theres no dsl ?
[08:58] <immibis> ramorek: never mind
[08:58] <clutchmm> n2diy_: yeah, drag and drop gave me an error that moving to /media/disk didn't have the proper permissions
[08:58] <immibis> i mean PurpZeY again
[08:58] <immibis> sorry ramorek
[08:58] <PurpZeY> ramorek: In my estimation cable here is faster.
[08:59] <ramorek> forget estimation
[08:59] <immibis> lots of users
[08:59] <ramorek> i rather have a dedicated link
[08:59] <ramorek> either way though they should let you use your connection
[09:00] <ramorek> why else do you pay ?
[09:00] <PingFloyd> you also have less privacy on cable
[09:00] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I probably could run a server, but I was upstreaming quite a bit...
[09:00] <n2diy_> clutchmm: roger, kill nautilus, and in a terminal start it as gksudo nautilis.
[09:00] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I agree, that's why I called and made them fix it.
[09:00] <ramorek> thing is alot of "users" dont really use their connections
[09:01] <ramorek> so alot of isps get away with the charges
[09:01] <ramorek> and get pissed when you know something
[09:01] <Phylo> I need help getting my computer online wirelessly.  I just installed Ubuntu 6.0.  I went to System->Administration->Network Manager->Wireless Conneection properties
[09:01] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I am in total agreement with you...And I called and made them fix it back and they did...and I've done similar things since and haven't had a problem.
[09:02] <Phylo> enabled connection, set network name and pass and clicked ok
[09:02] <Phylo> what next?
[09:02] <ramorek> good, i pay for 6 downa nd i was getting 4.7, i called and bothered the hell out of them to the point they removed the cap to what its supposed to be
[09:03] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I did the same exact thing...In fact that was the reason I brought it up. Just to say, they tried to shaft me and I told them no.
[09:03] <Phylo> how do I restart my network stuff?
[09:03] <PurpZeY> WTF is waiterbot and who is sending things?
[09:04] <n2diy_> ramorek: thank you! my isp brags about unlimited access, but they don't mention the 8 hour auto disconnect!
[09:04] <ramorek> lol, cool, good to know theres some of us that actually act on the big guys who try to take us for granted
[09:04] <ramorek> n2diy_ ide call them up and tell them till they put out
[09:04] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I am in law school, very few people take advantage of me in that way.
[09:05] <PurpZeY> ramorek: And if they try they generally get a mouthfull.
[09:05] <ramorek> cool, im just in the field and see how people get done wrong.. and i hate being one of them
[09:05] <sx66> how do you get to safe mode in firefox on ubuntu
[09:06] <n2diy_> ramorek: I have, and the are linux folk, so we get along well, but policy is policy
[09:06] <n2diy_> clutchmm: ??
[09:06] <Assassin`> what about the little icon launchers u guys use?
[09:06] <Assassin`> what is it called
[09:07] <ramorek> not when they advertise otherwise, thats a good lawsuit
[09:07] <PurpZeY> applet
[09:07] <PurpZeY> Not really.
[09:07] <ramorek> 2 min left for the 7.04 !!
[09:07] <ramorek> cool beans
[09:07] <sx66> Assassin`: how do get to firefox in safemode?
[09:07] <PurpZeY> ramorek: You sign a contract, they make terms, if you sign, you abide.
[09:07] <ramorek> oh well, ide tell them im leaving
[09:07] <ramorek> lol
[09:07] <Assassin`> sx66: idk
[09:07] <ramorek> and grab a dish and point
[09:08] <PurpZeY> ramorek: That's precisely why they can make any terms they want...If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
[09:08] <sx66> anyone, know about safemode in firefox?
[09:08] <PurpZeY> sx66: Hold on, I'll look it up.
[09:08] <ramorek> how long are you down for though ?
[09:08] <sx66> PurpZeY: thank you, my buttons just disappeared when I started firefox, therefore safemode is my only hope
[09:08] <PurpZeY> sx66: /firefox -safe-mode
[09:09] <PurpZeY> My bad
[09:09] <PurpZeY> sx66: ./firefox -safe-mode
[09:09] <Assassin`> how do i get the applets
[09:09] <kRN^> re
[09:09] <sx66> no such file or directory PurpZeY
[09:09] <Assassin`> sorry im kinda new ">.<"
[09:09] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: what applets you looking for?
[09:10] <PurpZeY> sx66: did you see my second message?
[09:10] <Assassin`> those nice app launchers you guys use
[09:10] <n2diy_> ramorek: I think your talking to me? I'm only down for the time it takes me to recconnect.
[09:10] <Assassin`> instead of the taskbars at the top and bottom
[09:10] <sx66> I typed the second in the command line: ./firefox -safe-mode PurpZeY
[09:10] <Assassin`> you know like the ones that dance in beryl
[09:10] <ramorek> well
[09:10] <Assassin`> :)
[09:11] <ramorek> it should be like 2 sec ?
[09:11] <ramorek> then you just resume your d/l
[09:11] <PurpZeY> sx66: You might have to run it from the firefox directory...I'm not sure...I mean, I literally copied that off the firefox help page. You may have to include firefox-version or whatever...
[09:11] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: You talking about a dock?
[09:11] <Assassin`> i guess so
[09:11] <PurpZeY> !info kibadock
[09:11] <ubotu> Package kibadock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:11] <computx> sx66 try  /usr/bin/firefox -safemode
[09:11] <puff> Hm, my keyboard is acting wacky... how do I check what sort of keyboard it thinks I'm using, and possibly reset it?
[09:12] <Assassin`> what?
[09:12] <Phylo> how do I restart my network?
[09:12] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: Most people like kibadock
[09:12] <Assassin`> it doesn't exist in feisty
[09:12] <Assassin`> i think thats the one i read about
[09:12] <n2diy_> ramorek: no, it takes that long for kppp to come back up, more like 30 to 60 seconds.
[09:12] <econobeing> whenever i click a link in gaim or skype it opens the link in konqueror, how can i make it open in firefox?
[09:12] <Assassin`> in the forums
[09:12] <Assassin`> but i don't know where to get it
[09:12] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: It might not be in the repos...I'm not positive, but you can download it. just google kibadock
[09:12] <Assassin`> and im tired
[09:12] <Phylo> can I upgrade to fiesty from edgy eft using a live cd?
[09:12] <Assassin`> ok
[09:12] <Assassin`> thanks
[09:12] <PurpZeY> n/p
[09:13] <ramorek> n2 i would of moved by the second disco
[09:13] <Madpilot> Phylo, not unless you want to just reinstall over Edgy
[09:13] <Tom47> puff System>Preferences>Keyboard
[09:13] <puff> Tom47: Without X.
[09:13] <sx66> PurpZeY: Look: http://i12.tinypic.com/6fzyahk.png
[09:14] <Tom47> yawn
[09:14] <ramorek> ok someone help
[09:14] <ramorek> i just upgraded to fiesty and no restart is required?
[09:14] <PurpZeY> axisys: Did you run it in safe mode?
[09:14] <Phylo> Madpilot:  ok, 'cause to upgrading Fiesty hardcore crashed my computer (had to completely wipe everything and reinstall WinXP and Ubuntu 6, Fiesty wouldn't install alone)
[09:14] <PurpZeY> Sorry.
[09:14] <PurpZeY> sx66: Did you run it in safemode?
[09:15] <n2diy_> ramorek: there i no where to move to, this town has one phone company, and one cable company, and they are both the same company.  :/
[09:15] <Madpilot> Phylo, ouch. My Breezy->Dapper install puked on me, but since then I've gone Dapper->Edgy->Feisty w/o issues...
[09:15] <sx66> it launch a normal window of firefox...
[09:15] <n2diy_> i/is
[09:15] <ramorek> damn
[09:15] <ramorek> ok does anyone know why this is happening ??
[09:15] <PurpZeY> sx66: You ran that command suggested above, safemode ran, and it gave a regular window? Someone else had suggested a different way to run safemode
[09:16] <|johnybot|> Any one know how to stop firefox from freezing when a tab with a flash movie is closed?
[09:16] <Phylo> Madpilot:  the problem started when my connection crapped out on me after downloading 645 of 649 MB of the install
[09:16] <Phylo> that was so gay...
[09:16] <ramorek> the update to fiesty finished and my top bar wont work wtf is up with the update?
[09:16] <Phylo> Madpilot:  you use Ubuntu wirelessly?
[09:16] <ramorek> how do i restart ?
[09:17] <clutchmm> n2diy_: crap the folder I want to move was created by vmware server and has a space in it, how do I get around spaces in file names in the terminal?
[09:17] <Phylo> ramorek:  restart what?
[09:17] <PurpZeY> ramorek: Not sure, but can't you just run shutdown from term?
[09:17] <PurpZeY> or powerdown
[09:17] <Madpilot> Phylo, no, I use long pieces of Cat5 to reach the internets. Safer that way.
[09:17] <ramorek> my box, i finsh'd the update and nothing works and i have a blank little dialog boc that wont close
[09:17] <|johnybot|> sudo shutdown now ?
[09:17] <sx66> PurpZeY: the command of /usr/bin/firefox -safemode ... launches a regluar window
[09:17] <Phylo> ramorek:  oh yeah duh
[09:17] <ramorek> phylo : ??
[09:17] <Phylo> Madpilot:  lol, WHAT?
[09:18] <PurpZeY> sx66: Try that command, but with safe-mode
[09:18] <Madpilot> "sudo shutdown -r now" - that'll restart the thing - (-r is 'restart')
[09:18] <Phylo> what it -h?
[09:18] <Phylo> halt?
[09:18] <Madpilot> Phylo, um, Cat5 = standard network cable - you know, the blue stuff.
[09:18] <ThamHKI> Hi, I create one partition fat32 for extrat iso cd of ubuntun 7, and now, how I change boot for active partition of iso???
[09:18] <ramorek> how do i know if the update worked ?
[09:18] <n2diy_> clutchmm: I don't know.
[09:19] <Phylo> Madpilot:  can you help me connect wirelessly?  I've done it before, I know it works
[09:19] <sx66> PurpZeY: the command of "/usr/bin/firefox -safemode" what? what do you mean safemode?
[09:19] <|johnybot|> ramorek: accesories > about ubuntu
[09:19] <Phylo> speaking of restarting stuff, how do I restart my network connections?
[09:19] <Madpilot> Phylo, I know zip, nada & nothing about wireless. Sorry.
[09:19] <Phylo> without restarting my comp?
[09:19] <Phylo> ok Madpilot
[09:19] <econobeing> how can i re-start my mic...daemon?
[09:19] <ThamHKI> PLEASE HELP ME!!
[09:19] <PurpZeY> sx66: You ran /usr/bin/firefox -safemode | I am suggested /usr/bin/firefox/ -safe-mode
[09:19] <PurpZeY> !caps
[09:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:19] <|johnybot|> we can?
[09:19] <|johnybot|> i mean what?
[09:20] <pg_apprentice> OMFG... I am about to cry
[09:20] <ramorek> dude
[09:20] <econobeing> my mic works for a while, but then just stops
[09:20] <ramorek> both my bars are frozen right after the update and i dont know what to do
[09:20] <PurpZeY> econobeing: Have you looked at alsamixer?
[09:20] <sx66> PurpZeY: does not work...:(
[09:20] <pg_apprentice> I just connected to the MS VPN some 20+ hours after initially starting to try
[09:20] <econobeing> what about alsamixer
[09:20] <Phylo> ramorek:  Try Ctrl+T
[09:20] <PurpZeY> sx66: What happens?
[09:20] <econobeing> i messed around with alsamiser to get my mic working in the first place
[09:21] <Phylo> ramorek:  does a terminal pop up?
[09:21] <econobeing> but then it'll just randomly die
[09:21] <ramorek> no
[09:21] <econobeing> but now*
[09:21] <ramorek> i can get one open thanks to the shortcut i had on the desktop
[09:21] <sx66> unable to locate: PurpZeY
[09:21] <Phylo> ramorek:  oh, then what is wrong with "sudo shutdown -r now"?
[09:21] <Madpilot> ThamHKI, do not PM people without asking first. Thanks.
[09:21] <ramorek> let me try
[09:21] <ThamHKI> Madkiss: Hi, I create one partition fat32 for extrat iso cd of ubuntun 7, and now, how I change boot for active partition of iso???
[09:22] <PurpZeY> sx66: What I am saying is, run firefox, the same way you did when you took the screen shot, the same dir etc...but instead of safemode safe-mode, is that what you did?
[09:22] <Phylo> ThamHKI:  why did you create a fat32 partition for Linux?
[09:22] <|johnybot|> ThamHKI: you want to boot a partition containing the CD's contents?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> ThamHKI: you can't create partitions on CDs
[09:22] <ThamHKI> |johnybot| yes
[09:22] <sx66> PurpZeY: yes
[09:23] <|johnybot|> ThamHKI: no clue but i thought i'd clear it up for some one who is good with ubuntu
[09:23] <PurpZeY> sx66: But running it, safemode works but it doesn't do anthing?
[09:23] <Tom47> ThamHKI what is your first language please
[09:23] <ThamHKI> |johnybot| :\
[09:23] <netdaemon> anyone play gnome-nethack?
[09:24] <Tazdevil> netdaemon: No is it a good game
[09:24] <sx66> PurpZeY: I get no buttons, I need to run safe mode to uninstall a theme that hides them..
[09:24] <ThamHKI> Tom47: I speak portugue more not have help in channel portuguese :{
[09:24] <netdaemon> Tazdevil, i wouldn't know, it crashes =\
[09:24] <longhorn> hi all
[09:24] <Tazdevil> netdaemon: ooops yup that would be hard to gather
[09:24] <Tom47> ThamHKI ah ... ok thats unfortunate
[09:24] <longhorn> what
[09:25] <ThamHKI> Tom47: you can help me ??
[09:25] <longhorn> yes
[09:25] <netdaemon> so i'm trying to figure out why
[09:25] <longhorn> what you would know
[09:25] <netdaemon> i'd very much like to play it
[09:25] <Tom47> ThamHKI i am having problems understanding what you are asking to be honest
[09:25] <longhorn> what
[09:25] <econobeing> so, any ideas how to get my mic to not stop working at random times?
[09:25] <denardo> Hi, all. I'm trying to set up the line in fstab for a vfat partition readwritable in both Linux and Windows but am a bit baffled by it. I had it working before my first attempt to upgrade to Feisty trashed my root partition (it's better after a reinstall).
[09:25] <n2diy_> what's up cowboy?
[09:25] <Phylo> is there any way to upgrade to Fiesty from Edgy using a Fiesty CD instead of downloading?
[09:25] <ThamHKI> Tom47: hum, if you want, i say again my problem..
[09:26] <|johnybot|> Tom47: he has the files from the 7.04 cd on a partition and wants to boot from that as if it were the CD
[09:26] <Tom47> ThamHKI can you say it differently please may have more luck
[09:26] <n2diy_> Phylo: sure, boot it, and run it.
[09:26] <ThamHKI> Tom47 lol :P
[09:27] <|johnybot|> Any one know how to stop firefox from freezing when a tab with a flash movie is closed?
[09:27] <n2diy_> longhorn, whatz up?
[09:27] <PurpZeY> sx66: Can you get a menu bar in firefox?
[09:27] <Phylo> n2diy:  do you know how to restart network connections without restarting the computer?
[09:27] <denardo> I *think* that's what's causing my Firefox & Thunderbird to complain that they're already running.
[09:28] <|johnybot|> yah
[09:28] <|johnybot|> have to kill em manually
[09:28] <Tom47> ThamHKI perhaps you need to burn th iso onto a cd ????
[09:28] <sx66> PurpZeY: no I can not, the screen shot of what you saw was with no menu bar, no text nothing, that theme disabled all of that...
[09:28] <bastid_raZor> normally if you stop the flash movie it will not crash
[09:28] <|johnybot|> yes, but i am an idiot
[09:28] <bastid_raZor> but trying to close the tab while a flash movie is playing it does crash.
[09:28] <crazee> ThamHKI - I have been trying to do what you are attempting
[09:28] <pirx> does anyone know what is the proper way to recompile some program in ubuntu that has been installed with apt? i want fork capability in apache, which i dont seem to have gotten by default
[09:28] <|johnybot|> and lazy
[09:29] <crazee> There are some guides around
[09:29] <crazee> But it has all failed for me
[09:29] <ThamHKI> Tom47: I resize my hd of 160GB and make 3 partions, one of 10GB FAT32, one of 1GB FAT32 and one 1GB linux swamp. I extrat all files of iso cd ubutun for partition 1GB FAT32 and now I want change boot of WIN for partition 1GB FAT32 for instalation Ubuntu!
[09:29] <crazee> Still I think itis worth a shot
[09:29] <denardo> What's baffling me most, I think, is umask.
[09:29] <PurpZeY> sx66: straight of Firefox wiki: /path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode
[09:30] <PurpZeY> sx66:     *  A window called Firefox Safe Mode with some troubleshooting options appears. At that point, you can either continue to Safe Mode or select some troubleshooting options and restart Firefox in normal mode to apply the changes.
[09:30] <bastid_raZor> ThamHKI you are retarded
[09:30] <ThamHKI> bastid_raZor Oo
[09:30] <PurpZeY> bastid_raZor: I think his english is just bad.
[09:30] <crazee> ThamHKI - try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2782630#post2782630
[09:31] <Phylo> yes, but painfully bad, I'm not even sure what he's trying to do
[09:31] <clutchmm> ok, I transferred my win2k VM to my external drive, but when I try to open it, I get an error that I don't have permission
[09:31] <crazee> ThamHKI scroll to the INSTALL FROM HARD DISK section
[09:31] <Phylo> though bad English is much better than just plain stupid
[09:31] <bastid_raZor> even if his engrish is bad, FAT32??
[09:31] <crazee> He is trying to boot from an iso image
[09:31] <Phylo> bastid_raZor:  I was wondering that too
[09:31] <sx66> PurpZeY: http://i11.tinypic.com/6bk8jkp.png
[09:31] <ThamHKI> crazee: thanks man
[09:31] <crazee> Which is theoretically possible, but I haven't been able to make it work
[09:31] <Phylo> ThamHKI:  you can't burn that .iso as a cd?
[09:32] <clutchmm> anyone have any ideas?
[09:32] <gabbarinho> just curious, have people found ways to use most mp3 players with linux?
[09:32] <ThamHKI> Phylo: not have cd for burn :P
[09:32] <gabbarinho> I am referring to the portable kind - ipod, creative, etc
[09:32] <crazee> FWIW, my cdrom drive is busted
[09:32] <Phylo> ThamHKI:  hmm, yeah I have no idea how to boot from an .iso
[09:33] <PurpZeY> sx66: I don't understand what I am to take from that. That's the extension you installed? If it is, why not try to bring the buttons back how it says?
[09:33] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: i got a Apacer one and it works fine just have to remember to shift-delete
[09:33] <crazee> So sometimes booting from iso can be a lifesaver
[09:33] <thanhcrypt> \help
[09:33] <carlos_> how can I play two monitors on ubuntu ? I did conect a monitor on my laptop, and both screens display the same thing, how can I make it an extension of my laptop ?
[09:33] <|johnybot|> and my friends sony one works
[09:33] <gabbarinho> what does the shift-delete command do? :)
[09:33] <ThamHKI> Phylo: no more iso, now i extrat all files of iso for partition :P
[09:33] <sx66> PurpZeY: The arrow is not there...:(
[09:33] <denardo> Hmm. Unless I can fix this, I can't really use Linux here.
[09:33] <|johnybot|> denardo: fix what?
[09:33] <Phylo> ThamHKI:  yeah, but I still have no idea :-(  sorry
[09:34] <PurpZeY> sx66: Try turning off beryl, see if the arrow is there...Otherwise, I honestly, personally don't know, I'm sure someone else will.
[09:34] <ThamHKI> Phylo: np :|
[09:34] <denardo> Check the stuff I've typed in here. Trying to get Firefox & Thunderbird to work together with both Windows and Ubuntu...
[09:34] <PurpZeY> sx66: *I* think, you are running the safe mode command wrong...just my opinion. Maybe someone in #firefox would know better.
[09:34] <sx66> how do you turn off beryl?
 xinerama
[09:35] <carlos_> insmod, I can see that
[09:35] <deepsa>  what is the name of the component that intercepts key "shortcuts" from my keyboard's volume knob, and adjusts the volume while printing the mini-graphic in the center of the desktop?  It's got to be some gnome-daemon of some sort, right?
[09:35] <Phylo> sx66:  I think you can right-click the beryl manager gem (icon)
[09:35] <carlos_> insmod, thanks
[09:35] <PurpZeY> sx66: Right click on the diamond, select window manager, change to gtk
[09:35] <denardo> which was working until trying to upgrade to Feisty trashed my root partition, and I now have to recreate what I had in /etc/fstab
[09:35] <sx66> thanks
 :)
[09:35] <Phylo> sx66:  yeah what PurpZeY said
[09:35] <carsten> hi! Everytime i try to create an directory with "mkdir" i get an error, stating "no space left on device", but according to "df -h" there are over 10 Gigs free, what is wrong?
[09:35] <|johnybot|> so you want windows and linux to share a fat partition?
[09:36] <denardo> |johnybot|: Right.
[09:36] <Audi200Turbo> omg how many ppl can fit in a channel :O :P
[09:36] <deepsa> any idea ?
[09:36] <|johnybot|> sis you already make the partition?
[09:36] <|johnybot|> so*
[09:36] <carlos_> insmod, it is not in the repository :S
[09:36] <denardo> |johnybot|: Yes
[09:36] <bastid_raZor> denardo: it is normally a bad thing to have two OS's on one partition
[09:37] <insmod> carlos: should just be an xorg option
[09:37] <aimtrainer> denardo, if you want to use a partition with linux and winxp you can also unse ext3 and fsdriver in xp - then you d have large file support
[09:37] <denardo> bastid_raZor: I know. This is however a pretty well documented thing, except that I don't understand the /etc/fstab struff
[09:37] <|johnybot|> denardo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:37] <carlos_> insmod, did you mean that it is already installed ?
[09:38] <madsporkmurderer> To get my dvb card to work I have to 'sudo modprobe cx88-dvb' after every reboot; is there a way to do this permanently so that I don't have to do it every time?
[09:38] <insmod> carlos: should be
[09:38] <sx66> what is the server for firefox?
[09:38] <ThamHKI> Hi, I need know if i can have partition linux swamp before instalation Ubutun?
[09:38] <carlos_> insmod, ok thanks I will see
[09:38] <PurpZeY> sx66: server?
[09:38] <Parabol`> firefox should be on here
[09:38] <Parabol`> if they have a channel i'm sure its on freenode
[09:39] <PurpZeY> sx66: Oh, it's just #firefox
[09:39] <denardo> |johnybot|: That page seems quite clear. Trying it now. Thanks.
[09:39] <bastid_raZor> ThamHKI: you have to have swap before install of !Ubutun!
[09:39] <crazee> ThamHKI - read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=441918
[09:39] <carsten> according to "df -i" there are enough inodes free, too
[09:39] <|johnybot|> denardo: back when i was suckling MS teat, i had the same thing working
[09:40] <bastid_raZor> heh
[09:40] <ThamHKI> crazee: I read more one work this programa worked download again of iso alternative
[09:40] <ThamHKI> I use iso server ubutun
[09:40] <ThamHKI> ubuntu*
[09:40] <davina> carsten, have u tried fsck on the filesystem?
[09:40] <buggy> hay anyone - being clutzie - i can't figure out to install a different ubuntu theme from preferences/theme - any help?
[09:41] <ferronica> any application like LIMEWIRE available in ubuntu 7.04 ?
[09:41] <sdf> hi i have rar file i want unzip it but it has password how can i break it??
[09:41] <PurpZeY> buggy: Where did you download the theme from?
[09:41] <|johnybot|> ThamHKI: program called acetoneISO can make iso from a folder
[09:41] <ThamHKI> thx for all...
[09:41] <crazee> ThamHKI - you can tell it to use the iso that you have already downloaded
[09:41] <davina> ferronica, you can download a linux version of limewire from the limewire website
[09:41] <Phylo> sdf:  by finding where you stored the pass for it
[09:41] <sdf> hehe
[09:42] <ferronica> davin: it wont available in synaptic
[09:42] <buggy> its not a special downloaded one - it's a stock one that came w/ububtu fiesty 7.2
[09:42] <carsten> davina, i can touch files for example "touch bla" works, but "mkdir bla" -> no space left on device i can run fsck, but do i have to reboot to fsck the partition?
[09:42] <PurpZeY> buggy: just double click
[09:42] <|johnybot|> buggy : 7.2?
[09:42] <sdf> phylo any programs for break (know) password?
[09:42] <Parabol`> what type of passwords
[09:42] <buggy> hmnmm - hang on - said being clutzie ya know....
[09:43] <Phylo> sdf:  doubtlessly
[09:43] <davina> carsten, is the filesystem where you are trying to mkdir on a different disk to the main / filesystem?  if so then i think you can just dismount it and fscj /dev/hda1 or whatever it is foryou
[09:43] <Phylo> PurpZeY:  indeed, not my lack of answer
[09:43] <sdf> phylo what do you mean?
[09:43] <cafuego> sdf: There are lots, most use dictionaries. if the password is not enough and contains weird characters, you're probably SOL.
[09:43] <Parabol`> his reasons for asking arent any of our business
[09:43] <Parabol`> this is a support channel
[09:43] <Parabol`> not a be-nosey channel
[09:44] <|johnybot|> buggy : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2743613
[09:44] <Phylo> sdf:  There is no doubt that there are programs to break passwords for .rar files
[09:44] <buggy> whatever latest release of ubuntu - 7. something - the double click did not work
[09:44] <Parabol`> glad to see you're one of thoes that causes office gossip
[09:44] <sdf> ok
[09:44] <davina> ferronica, no but there are installation instruction that are fairly easy to follow
[09:44] <carsten> davina, okay i will try that
[09:44] <ferronica> davina: okay
[09:44] <Parabol`> sdf almost all of them require you purchase them
[09:44] <PurpZeY> Parabol`: Not an issue of office gossip...In my estimation, I'm not going to tell someone how to crack a file.
? like to cause trouble!
[09:45] <Parabol`> no, i dont like people being douches
[09:45] <bastid_raZor> heh,
[09:45] <Parabol`> he didnt ask for his opinion on what he was doing, he asked for help
[09:45] <Parabol`> sdf:  they are all brute force, so it could take a very long time
then look in the mirror -- ad be sick
[09:45] <gabbarinho> i noticed there's a version of ubuntu for older computers called xbuntu
[09:45] <|johnybot|> yay
[09:45] <Parabol`> funny, looks like i'm helping him
[09:45] <|johnybot|> i love xubuntu
[09:46] <gabbarinho> is it limited by comparison in any way?
[09:46] <sx66> ah...
[09:46] <immibis> what are the system requirements?
[09:46] <Phylo> Parabol:  and I said I wouldn't help because cracking passwords is not #Ubuntu related (especially .rar files)
[09:46] <Parabol`> gabbarinho: not really
[09:46] <|johnybot|> it is faster
[09:46] <Parabol`> gabbarinho:  just a different desktop manager
[09:46] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: xbuntu is almost the same, just less graphically intense.
[09:46] <gabbarinho> my computer isn't _that_ old, but if it runs faster I don't see why I shouldn't use it instead
[09:46] <immibis> i have an old laptop with a slow processor (i think 133mhz) and 32mb of memory
[09:46] <gabbarinho> right
[09:46] <levander> Is there any "Expand All" button in Nautilus?
[09:46] <immibis> and a really slow hdd
[09:46] <gabbarinho> wow, 133mhz!
[09:46] <|johnybot|> hehe
[09:46] <Parabol`> gabbarinho: yeah, some people dont like xfce, i dont mind it :)
[09:46] <carsten> i made an sudo dumpe2fs /dev/hdb1 the result is here ->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24186/
[09:46] <immibis> MHZ not ghz
[09:46] <Phylo> can Beryl run in Xubuntu?
[09:46] <gabbarinho> yeah!
[09:46] <davina> ferronica, there is a .deb package that will make it easy to installso download that one
[09:46] <PurpZeY> Phylo: I don't imagine so, but I don't really know.
[09:47] <denardo> |johnybot|: Thank you! Firefox is now running fine.
[09:47] <ferronica> davina: can you please give me the link?
[09:47] <insmod> xfce 3 was good 4 sucks
[09:47] <|johnybot|> To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.
[09:47] <|johnybot|>
[09:47] <|johnybot|> To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk.
[09:47] <|johnybot|>
[09:47] <|johnybot|> Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.
[09:47] <davina> ferronica, http://www.limewire.com/download/download.php?version=linux_deb
[09:47] <insmod> but then again cde rocks
[09:48] <immibis> maybe it was 64mb then i'm not sure - it runs ubuntu v5 breezy
[09:48] <denardo> |johnybot|: BTW, I would love to get off MS teat, but I'm depending on one app for my work that only seems to run under Windoze (dogmelon Note Studio, a personal Wiki for PALM OS and Windoze)
[09:48] <Parabol`> i've got 7.04 on my 2.12ghz c2d macbook
[09:48] <Parabol`> and it FLIES
[09:48] <gabbarinho> this computer is a 1.33GHZ - so OK in that respect, but i only have 256mb of RAM
[09:48] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: You'll be good to go with xubuntu, I think.
[09:48] <gabbarinho> ubuntu does run ok, certainly much faster than windows xp did
[09:49] <sx66> PurpZeY: can you send me the link for the firefox safemode?
[09:49] <Parabol`> oh my god
[09:49] <Parabol`> my gf's cat just farted
[09:49] <|johnybot|> hahaha
[09:49] <Parabol`> and it smells horrid
[09:49] <Parabol`> its laying next to me on the couch
[09:49] <gabbarinho> I'll have to give it a try! it's just too bad that I didn't leave space on my hard drive to be able to create a new partition without getting rid of this unbuntu install from three days ago
[09:49] <PurpZeY> sx66: It was literally from the firefox home page but just a sec.
[09:49] <carsten> davina, i cant umount it, it says device is busy
[09:49] <Tom47> thats def "off" topic lol
[09:49] <Parabol`> lol i know
[09:49] <Parabol`> i can taste it
[09:49] <Phylo> How can I check how much RAM I have?
[09:49] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: I don't think you'd need a clean install, I think you can just change desktop managers.
[09:49] <Parabol`> couldnt help it, sorry guys
[09:49] <gabbarinho> so... erm, xubuntu will run the same applications, right?
[09:49] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-base i think
[09:49] <|johnybot|> yes
[09:50] <gabbarinho> oh? sorry - i have no idea what that means :)
[09:50] <PurpZeY> sx66: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Linux
[09:50] <|johnybot|> open terminal
[09:50] <Madpilot> Phylo, in terminal, "free -m"
[09:50] <|johnybot|> type:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-base
[09:50] <davina> carsten, you'll need to close any nautilus file browsers and also any Terminal session that are 'cd'ed there
[09:50] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: ubuntu and xubuntu are the same "guts" so you'd just need to change the desktop manager...Like switching from gnome to xfe
[09:50] <Parabol`> couldnt he just install xfce ?
[09:50] <simone_> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu live cd. I have tried ubuntu 7.04 32 bit and ubuntu gutsy amd64 daily build. Both gave me the following error: "can't access tty; job control turned off". In casper.log i have some errors related to /dev/loop* and squashfs. My hw is "asus m2npv-vm | amd 3800+ socket am2 | 1gb ddr2 ram | pioneer dvr 112d". Any suggestion?
[09:51] <gabbarinho> ah...
[09:51] <Parabol`> there would be no point in doing base would there?
[09:51] <PurpZeY> Not that I can think of
[09:51] <|johnybot|> you'd be installing all the less resource hungry alternatives
[09:51] <gabbarinho> so GNOME, xfce - these things are just shells?
[09:51] <gabbarinho> sort of like windows 3.11? (sorry for the analogy)
[09:51] <PurpZeY> pretty much
[09:51] <davina> carsten, alternative reboot you machine with the live cd and non of your hard disks with be mounted and you can fsck from there
[09:51] <|johnybot|> Window managers
[09:51] <Parabol`> johny yeah but hed still have all the normal "bloat" of ubuntu
[09:51] <carsten> davina, i did it, the fsck said that /dev/hdb1 is clean. did you had a chance to look in my e2dump file?
[09:51] <Phylo> It says it only detects 216MB of my RAM, but I have 512.  I added one a 256MB RAM chip, how can I make use of it?
[09:51] <Spliffster> good morning
[09:51] <silvernode> anyone know of a good movie creator for ubuntu?
[09:51] <gabbarinho> I tried entering the command in terminal - "couldn't find package xubuntu base"
[09:52] <Parabol`> silvernode: a camcorder
[09:52] <Tom47> simone have you checked the cd for erors
[09:52] <|johnybot|> xubuntu-desktop sorry
[09:52] <PurpZeY> It's only 10 to 4...not morning yet
[09:52] <Parabol`> yeah
[09:52] <Parabol`> I need to goto bed
[09:52] <Parabol`> she was tired and i wasnt, so i moved to the couch lol
[09:52] <davina> carsten, well thatsgood. i didnt see you mention e2dump as i have only just logged in today
[09:52] <silvernode> parabol:are you hinting to me that there is no movie making software for linux?
[09:52] <robert98374_> How do you find the color code for a specific color?
[09:52] <Parabol`> silvernode: no i was trying to be funny :-\
[09:52] <gabbarinho> ooooh
[09:52] <gabbarinho> very cool
[09:53] <Spliffster> can anyone tell my why the following line is in my /etc/hosts after installing feisty: <IP_ADDRESS> schleppi # where schleppi is my hostname !?
[09:53] <gabbarinho> so this package was already on my hard drive!?
[09:53] <Parabol`> robert98374_: i use photoshop or gimp
[09:53] <gabbarinho> i can't wait to learn this stuff so i can make use of it
[09:53] <Traveler04> hi -  i have a problem - on my ubuntu 7.04 my poweroff icon disappeared - now i can only suspend or hibernet, but cannot poweroff my pc. Anyone had a similar problem?
[09:53] <carsten> davina, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24186/
[09:53] <scapor> can someone help my with bluetooth ?  I'm able to send files from my phone to my pc but not the other way around.  gnome-obex-send says it's unable to make a bluetooth connection ; more info at: http://pastebin.ca/539468
[09:53] <|johnybot|> robert98374_: i use kolourpaint, the MS clone
[09:53] <silvernode> hmm well i guess there is no software that allows you to create a video in linux :-(
[09:53] <Hillview> hm, I think I broke something with aptitude.  not exactly sure how or why, but my X server won't start unless I reinstall the NVIDIA driver from nvidia.com.. when I reboot, it complains about a kernel conflict.  any ideas how I can fix? :)
[09:53] <Parabol`> Spliffster: so you can resolve yourself via name?
[09:53] <clutchmm> can someone tell me how to access my virtual machine I just copied to my external usb drive?
[09:53] <Parabol`> silvernode: there has to be
[09:53] <immibis> you could sudo shutdown -h now
[09:53] <davina> Spliffster, thats your local loopback
[09:53] <|johnybot|> silvernode: Kino
[09:53] <PurpZeY> wow the channel just blew up.
[09:53] <Rage> Hi, how do I make packages that have been kept back upgrade?
[09:53] <madsporkmurderer> To get my dvb card to work I have to 'sudo modprobe cx88-dvb' after every reboot; is there a way to do this permanently so that I don't have to do it every time?
[09:53] <silvernode> awesome
[09:53] <Spliffster> Parabol`: wouldnt that be <IP_ADDRESS>, subtile difference! why <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:53] <immibis> Traveler04: you could sudo shutdown -h now
[09:54] <Parabol`> ahh
[09:54] <Parabol`> i didnt catch that
[09:54] <robert98374_> well i am just trying to find a specific color from my wallpaper for conky
[09:54] <Parabol`> Spliffster:  you have MS-Blaster :P
[09:54] <wols_> madsporkmurderer: echo cv8-dvb >> /etc/modules
[09:54] <Spliffster> davina: my local loopback, <IP_ADDRESS> not <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:54] <PurpZeY> madsporkmurderer: I would think it might be hard b/c you are running sudo, and it requires a password...maybe someone else might know...but it seems to me it might be tough.
[09:54] <Parabol`> maybe its a bug
[09:54] <Parabol`> somone wasnt paying attention
[09:54] <Spliffster> Parabol`: i don't have any ms junk
[09:54] <Parabol`> Spliffster:  it was another one of my bad jokes
[09:54] <scapor> madsporkmurderer: sudo echo cv8-dvb >> /etc/modules
[09:54] <Spliffster> good morning ;)
[09:54] <Parabol`> i'm pretty good at that
[09:54] <|johnybot|> Wow i installed kino in 10 secs
[09:55] <Parabol`> johny lets make a music video
[09:55] <PurpZeY> scapor: Knew someone would know...;)
[09:55] <Spliffster> Parabol`: getting my joke detection device fueld up with coffee ;) early here
[09:55] <Tom47> cl
[09:55] <|johnybot|> haha
[09:55] <immibis> wow busy channel
[09:55] <Parabol`> Spliffster: hehe i gotcha
[09:55] <davina> Spliffster, yeah your right i didnt see past the 127.... lol.  not sure in that case.
[09:55] <robert98374_> Is fluxbox easy to install on Ubuntu?
[09:55] <|johnybot|> yes!
[09:55] <madsporkmurderer> Thanks
[09:55] <scapor> PurpZeY: :)
[09:56] <Parabol`> everyone needs a macbook
[09:56] <|johnybot|> robert98374_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:56] <gabbarinho> i can't believe you can do all this stuff through typing commands
[09:56] <davina> carsten, looks ok.  have you tried remounting the disk and doing mkdir again?
[09:56] <scapor> someone with bluetooth knowledge ?
[09:56] <Spliffster> who the fuck came up withthe idea of using <IP_ADDRESS>? i have never seen this and i do not recall reading about it 10years ago when i read O'Reeillys TCP/IP book. am I missing a new RFC ?
[09:56] <Tom47> !ohmy > Spliffster
[09:56] <PurpZeY> !ohmy | Spliffster
[09:56] <ubotu> Spliffster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:56] <wols_> Spliffster: you are not
[09:56] <robert98374_> |johnybot| can i choose it from the session on the GMD?
[09:56] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: You can use Synaptic Package manager but iam to lazy to wait for it to load up
[09:56] <gabbarinho> how does the OS know where to go download these things?
[09:57] <Spliffster> yes, yes peeps ... i try to be comformant
[09:57] <Parabol`> Spliffster:  its called someone screwed up :)
[09:57] <carlos_> how can I detect inactivity on my laptop ? I already know how to turn my monitor off, I know that exist gnome power-manager but sometimes it didn't ,
[09:57] <reverseblade> gabbarinho, OS or firefox ?
[09:57] <wols_> SORMANOV: just change it to the ptoper ip and be done with the whining
[09:57] <|johnybot|> robert98374_: never instaled it so i dno
[09:57] <robert98374_> |johnybot| lol
[09:57] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: yes
[09:57] <gabbarinho> the OS - i am talking about commands like sudo apt-install [program]
[09:57] <SORMANOV> wols_, ?
[09:57] <reverseblade> carlos_, /etc/acpi
[09:57] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Magic..; )
[09:57] <scapor> gabbarinho: the urls are stored in a file /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:57] <Spliffster> Parabol`, wols_: i'll file a bug report then ... but when they laugh about me i'll point at you :-P
[09:58] <reverseblade> gabbarinho, apt looks at the deb file. IT is written in the deb file that you downloaded
[09:58] <Spliffster> j/k gonna google for it
[09:58] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Each of the packages has the information in it...
[09:58] <Parabol`> lmao
[09:58] <Parabol`> Spliffster: sounds good
[09:58] <davina> Spliffster, it seems if you ping any 127.x.x.x address you'll get a response, so maybe it doesnt matter
[09:58] <wols_> SORMANOV: not you Spliffster. nick complete
[09:58] <carlos_> reverseblade, it is a directory o configuration text ?
[09:58] <SORMANOV> k
[09:58] <gabbarinho> ah... so i guess the more obscure programs wouldn't be on that list
[09:58] <Parabol`> davina:  its about standards
[09:58] <scapor> gabbarinho: those servers are called "repositories";  you can install software of 'am not only by commands but also by the package mananger or by selecting "add/remove applications" in the applications menu
[09:58] <Parabol`> maybe its RFC 1149 , or w/e the carrier pidgen one was :P
[09:58] <gabbarinho> I see
[09:58] <carsten> davina, yes, I just remounted it. "touch davina" works, but "mkdir davina" does not work. i am in /media/hdb/ebooks  if i go to /media/hdb and try an mkdir sth i get an "permission denied"
[09:58] <reverseblade> carlos_, you can look at instead of asking me. it is a dir with many files
[09:58] <denardo> Woohoo! For the first time ever, I can actually print on my Canon PIXMA MP150, using Feisty.
[09:59] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: It's not even necessarily more obscure, certain packages are supported and verified, so they are in the repos....
[09:59] <gabbarinho> xubuntu still seems to be downloading/installing
[09:59] <|johnybot|> yay
[09:59] <gabbarinho> I see
[09:59] <carlos_> reverseblade, ups sorry I can see that those are scripts
[09:59] <Spliffster> davina: ok, looks like <IP_ADDRESS> is treated as class A net then. however, it looks strange to me after 15 years of having <IP_ADDRESS> ... there must be a reason .. gonna check facts
[09:59] <gabbarinho> still - for a windows and mac user, this is amazing stuff
[09:59] <Parabol`> Spliffster: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html
[09:59] <Spliffster> ty
[09:59] <Spliffster> !
[09:59] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: that makes me cry a little
[09:59] <robert98374_> ok well i am going to go see brb
[09:59] <gabbarinho> i mean... as long as a console without graphics doesn't automatically give you heart attacks, this makes installing things EASIER
[10:00] <Parabol`> Spliffster:  you should read it, you will enjoy it
[10:00] <Madpilot> gabbarinho, lots of obscure stuff available by apt - there's about 17,000 packages in Ubuntu's repositories...
[10:00] <reverseblade> carlos_, that's all you need I suppose. Study them, and you will understand
[10:00] <gabbarinho> ah
[10:00] <Parabol`> apt is very nice
[10:00] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Most things you'd need, you can get using sudo apt-get, there are exceptions...but...
[10:00] <carlos_> reverseblade, ok thanks
[10:00] <Parabol`> aside from portage, apt is my fave
[10:00] <gabbarinho> well, I think i am having a religious experience
[10:00] <Parabol`> haha
[10:00] <scapor> gabbarinho: sure it does; but as I said you can also do it graphically (with point and click with your mouse) and it's also quick and easy
[10:00] <zentux_> hi, is there a aplet for public files share  for gnome ?
[10:00] <Spliffster> Parabol`: checking ... hope its not the evil bit ;-/
[10:00] <gabbarinho> right
[10:01] <gabbarinho> what is that command again? sudo apt-get _____?
[10:01] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: oh, i need an MSN client... search in Synaptic Package Manager... Pidgin, AMSN...
[10:01] <KomiaPoika> hi
[10:01] <gabbarinho> what does that mean, exactly?
[10:01] <scapor> gabbarinho: apt-get install
[10:01] <|johnybot|> Choice is fun
[10:01] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: sudo-apt get install
[10:01] <KomiaPoika> how can i install egroupware 1.4 using apt-get?
[10:01] <|johnybot|> sudo- run as super user
[10:01] <gabbarinho> ah, thanks
[10:01] <davina> Spliffster, seems <IP_ADDRESS> is just used for a name for localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> is uses for hostname instead of a 'normal ip' i guess so it loops back incase you dont have a network card
[10:01] <|johnybot|> apt-get the program
[10:01] <|johnybot|> install telling it what to do
[10:01] <KomiaPoika> |johnybot|: packages still are with version 1.2
[10:01] <Spliffster> Parabol`: aaaargh the pigeon rfc and i was hoping for info ... it's always a good laugh again
[10:01] <gabbarinho> aha
[10:01] <Parabol`> lol Spliffster
[10:02] <gabbarinho> so... i could type in 'sudo apt-get install gimp' and i'd get gimp
[10:02] <|johnybot|> yes
[10:02] <gabbarinho> this is incredible
[10:02] <ramboza> test
[10:02] <Parabol`> yes
[10:02] <|johnybot|> KomiaPoika: repos only have 1.2
[10:02] <gabbarinho> i mean really guys
[10:02] <Spliffster> Parabol`: check this, the definitive solution to supress cracking on the internet: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3514.html
[10:02] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Also, you may run into the problem of trying to install a package that is not in the repositories you access..There are a few additional repositories...I wouldn't add them now, but if you ever get an error "Need X repository" you'll know, then just see the wiki or the channel and add it to your list.
[10:02] <Parabol`> lol is this your first experience with package managment gabbarinho  ?
[10:02] <gabbarinho> ah... thanks for the info :)
[10:02] <gabbarinho> yes!
[10:02] <|johnybot|> KomiaPoika: need to install manually
[10:02] <Parabol`> hehe
[10:02] <netdaemon> well found the solution to the gnome-nethack crashing prob...
[10:03] <Parabol`> i remember my first time :P
[10:03] <Madpilot> gabbarinho, actually, the Gimp is already installed in Ubuntu - you don't even need to apt-get it :)
[10:03] <netdaemon> now i need to make it more permanent
[10:03] <gabbarinho> i am totally converted
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> |johnybot|: how
[10:03] <gabbarinho> well, right, i noticed!
[10:03] <Parabol`> gabbarinho:  the removal of packages is nice as well
[10:03] <gabbarinho> and it would always automatically retrieve the latest version, right?
[10:03] <Parabol`> gabbarinho:  have you used apt-cache search yet either?
[10:03] <Parabol`> if you arent sure of the exact name of a package, that is for finding it :)
[10:03] <gabbarinho> i guess i have some experience with packages in mac os x - but it's nothing like this
[10:03] <Spliffster> davina: this sounds about correct. only difference is that all systems i use there use <IP_ADDRESS> for years and since tcp/ip was invented. why does edgy use <IP_ADDRESS> for loopback. it's just my curiosity that wants to be satisfied ;)
[10:03] <Madpilot> gabbarinho, latest version that is in Ubuntu's repositories, yes
[10:04] <gabbarinho> no - i am afraid that i don't know what that means
[10:04] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: it would use the ubuntu specific version, not necissarily the latest
[10:04] <davina> carsten, you'll need to change the permissions so you can create files e.g. sudo chown carsten /media/hdb/ebooks      this'll make you the owner
[10:04] <gabbarinho> right
[10:04] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: You'll get a little icon in your "Tray" that will tell you to update...It generally installs updates for gnome, ubuntu, and popular software packages.
[10:04] <gabbarinho> so what if a program isn't ubuntu-specific? what would actually be different?
[10:04] <Parabol`> alright guys im going to bed
[10:04] <gabbarinho> ah, that's great
[10:04] <Parabol`> i'll talk to you all later
[10:04] <gabbarinho> bye :)
[10:04] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: It might still be in the repos.
[10:04] <|johnybot|> KomiaPoika:  sorry outa my league
[10:04] <davina> Spliffster, well until you mentioned it i didnt realise that my /etc/hosts has the same <IP_ADDRESS> for my hostname lol
[10:04] <vicente> anyone in maine here? im bored and linux-less
[10:04] <gabbarinho> i mean, how would the program itself be different?
[10:05] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: if not, you'd have to download it and install it according the install in the package.
[10:05] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: if its not in the repos, try to download a .deb file
[10:05] <makuseru> how can i exreact a .7z?
[10:05] <gabbarinho> i still don't quite understand the difference between all the distros
[10:05] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Well, take pidgin for example (the newest version of gaim) it is platform independent.
[10:05] <gabbarinho> are some programs GNOME specific and others KDE specific, etc?
[10:05] <Spliffster> oh: to whom it may concern: i have installed feisty on my laptop and upgraded my dekstop workstation from edgy. all went extremely smoot, hardware support is just awful. desktop is slim and polist. upstart seems to make a difference for boot time. CONGRATULATIONS!
[10:05] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Some are.
[10:06] <gabbarinho> yesterday i tried to get a program called "sopcast" to run - but it's an rpm package so i couldn't even figure out how to install it
[10:06] <Spliffster> feisty is an awful release
[10:06] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: install alien
[10:06] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: But those probably serve a specific task for each manager. . .
[10:06] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-rpm-files-in-ubuntu.html
 it is the same it is what it needs that may be diff--- a distro puts versions that work with each  other
[10:06] <gabbarinho> "sudo apt-get install alien" would work?
[10:06] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: sudo apt-get install alien; alien some.rpm # will convert it into a deb package
[10:07] <davina> gabbarinho, yes an no, if you use gnome and want to runa kde program, the synaptic package manager will usually download any kde dependancies that are needed, however sometime this could be quite a lot of stuff and so you need to make sure your root partition is big enough
[10:07] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Should work, yes.
[10:07] <sx66> /server irc.mozilla.org
[10:07] <sx66> #firefox
[10:07] <[1] carsten> davina, i went in every directory and made an "sudo chown carsten:carsten *" if i look at "ls -al" everything belongs to user carsten group carsten.
[10:07] <PurpZeY> Hi welcome to #firefox.
[10:07] <gabbarinho> ah
[10:07] <Assassin`> anyone have kiba-dock?
[10:07] <sx66> ahh
[10:07] <PurpZeY> !anyone
[10:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:07] <Assassin`> how do you get icons on it
[10:07] <Spliffster> PurpZeY: lol
[10:08] <Assassin`> wow
[10:08] <ramorek> DUDE !
[10:08] <davina> [1] carsten, did that fix it. can you "mkdir davina" ? lol
[10:08] <ramorek> im goin to windows or mac
[10:08] <gabbarinho> gee, it's installing
[10:08] <PurpZeY> Assassin`: Did you read the wiki?
[10:08] <ramorek> i give up
icons suck
[10:08] <Assassin`> yea
[10:08] <sx66> PurpZeY: that command does not work...user, or command error...:(
[10:08] <|johnybot|> ramorek: cya then
[10:08] <PurpZeY> ramorek: Update failed?
[10:08] <PurpZeY> sx66: What command?
 man xterm
[10:08] <Assassin`> i just want the terminal up there
[10:08] <Assassin`> wow
[10:08] <[1] carsten> davina, "mkdir davina" still says "no space left on device" "sudo mkdir davina" succeeds
[10:08] <Spliffster> ramorek: what is the problem ?
[10:08] <ramorek> i went in and i couldnt see crap on the desktop it was all scraatchy
[10:08] <gabbarinho> it's asking me to put in my ubuntu CD - is there a way to skip that and get the file online instead?
[10:08] <Assassin`> i read the kiba-dock wiki
[10:08] <Assassin`> for ubuntu
[10:09] <ramorek> had to load gnome session and its theonly wway itll work
[10:09] <sx66> PurpZeY: /path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode
[10:09] <PurpZeY> sx66: Did you run that exact command?
[10:09] <Spliffster> ramorek: are you usingthe live cd ?
[10:09] <ramorek> no
[10:09] <davina> [1] carsten, let me just look at mine brb
[10:09] <sx66> Indeed I did
[10:09] <ramorek> im on the HD
[10:09] <sx66> PurpZeY: Yes
[10:09] <Assassin`> butt... you should just be able to drag it there right
[10:09] <ramorek> i was lost for a while though
[10:09] <Spliffster> ramorek: so you have instaleld feisty, right ? (7.04) ?
[10:09] <PurpZeY> sx66: Right, what you need to do is run /bin/usr/firefox/firefox (I think)...I'll check...but that's just an example you are using there.
[10:09] <ramorek> i updated but im not sure if this thing is good to go
[10:10] <gabbarinho> by the way, xubuntu has been downloaded - how would i actually start it instead of ubuntu?
[10:10] <Spliffster> ramorek: updates can be tricky, especially if you have customizes (and maybe screwed) things in your system. have you been hand editing config files ?
[10:10] <ramorek> nope
[10:10] <Spliffster> ok
[10:10] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: in the log in screen there is a sessions button
[10:10] <ramorek> i just hit replace on all the dialog boxes
[10:11] <Spliffster> so you didn't get diffs during update (of onfig files) then ?
[10:11] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: just choose xubuntu or xcfe and log in
[10:11] <gabbarinho> ah
[10:11] <ramorek> ?
[10:11] <gabbarinho> great - thanks :
[10:11] <Phylo> How can I make Ubuntu detect my second RAM chip?
[10:11] <Spliffster> ramorek: never mind
[10:11] <ramorek> so my ? is
[10:11] <gabbarinho> looks like a bunch of programs have been added to my applications menu too
[10:11] <|johnybot|> Phylo: that sound like a bios problem
[10:11] <Assassin`> omg
[10:11] <Spliffster> ramorek: sou you have been upgrading, not been paying attention what the system ask and now where is the problem ?
[10:11] <gabbarinho> i assume those are xubuntu programs
 enlightenment is better
[10:11] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: xubuntu uses less resource hungry alternates
[10:12] <ramorek> is this think good to go or what ? do i have to run the gnome session from now on since i updated as opposed to the xcl session ?
[10:12] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Generally when you use sudo apt-get it will install any necessary dependcies.
[10:12] <ramorek> spliffster im not to knowledgable on ubuntu
[10:12] <Spliffster> ramorek: what is your problem ,,, gnome-session crashing on login ?
[10:12] <ramorek> no the other one
[10:12] <ramorek> the xcl one
[10:12] <PurpZeY> sx66: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox safe-mode
[10:12] <|johnybot|> insmod: im a slave to the panel, what can i say
[10:12] <Spliffster> which is "the other one[tm] " ?
[10:13] <davina> [1] carsten, on the directory/folder above where you are doing mkdir, does the owner i.e. you have write permission?  it may mean having to dismount the drive doing chmod o+w /media/hdb, also make sure you are the owner too, additionally do chmod o+s,g+s and then any files created, even by root will always have the right owner/group on them
 i am all term
[10:13] <Spliffster> ramorek: sorry, i do not know what xcl is, are you running gnome ?
[10:13] <thagoat> neone with info on how to dl mopvies on irc/
[10:13] <ramorek> now i am
[10:13] <ramorek> i guess ill just keep running it cause it works
[10:13] <bonii> I have installed Feisty. It comes by default with Compiz. How Do I remove Compiz and install Beryll??
[10:13] <PurpZeY> thagoat: movies on irc?
[10:13] <Spliffster> and before you have been running xfce ?
[10:13] <ramorek> i just with i knew what was going on
[10:13] <thagoat> BONII APT-GET INSTALL BERYL
[10:14] <PurpZeY> bonii: Just install beryl.
[10:14] <gabbarinho> i believe i installed alien, but i can't find it
[10:14] <ramorek> spliff i dont know
[10:14] <|johnybot|> thagoat: www.packetnews.com
[10:14] <Spliffster> ramorek: i am a bit lost about your ase, i just joined the room. maybe you need to explain me what your problem is. pleeeease.
[10:14] <bonii> thagoat: But I would have to remove Compiz right??
[10:14] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: just type alien at term
[10:14] <PurpZeY> bonii: no.
[10:14] <ramorek> ok spliff
[10:14] <Spliffster> ;)
[10:14] <gabbarinho> ah, there we go
[10:14] <Phylo> ramorek:  use Ubuntu 6.10, I think there are a lot of problems with 7.04
[10:14] <neocakra1> hihi
[10:14] <Phylo> everywhere I turn, people are having trouble installing Fiesty
[10:14] <[1] carsten> davina, "drwxr-xr-x 16 carsten carsten 4096 2007-04-01 21:38 hdb" this is the mount point
[10:14] <wulei> is in?
[10:15] <Spliffster> Phylo: 7.04 is as good as 6.10. if you need stabe, go for 6.04LTS
[10:15] <thagoat> maybe, if so apt-get remove compiz
[10:15] <bonii> PurpZeY: Wont it create any clashes or problems. I will go for apt-get install beryll?
[10:15] <|johnybot|> hehe gabbarino
[10:15] <gabbarinho> wooo, dos commands work
[10:15] <ramorek> phylo i got in to 7.0 on gnome
[10:15] <simone_> Could anyone help me? I have a problem with ubuntu live cd. Thanks
[10:15] <PurpZeY> bonii: I have both atm...When I installed beryl I did not get rid of compiz and the wiki doesn't tell you to, so, I think you're good.
[10:15] <thagoat> feisty is great except for audio
[10:15] <Phylo> ramorek:  I just don't want to see someone go Winblows or Mac
[10:15] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: try using ls instead of dir
[10:15] <PurpZeY> simone_: Describe the problem?
[10:15] <ramorek> but im not sure if i should trust it or if its in condition to be used as an everyday OS
[10:16] <Spliffster> thagoat: i have excatly the opposite experience. my 5.1 card works now in feisty
[10:16] <davina> [1] carsten, that looks like it should work then.
[10:16] <thagoat> lol phylo
[10:16] <bonii> PurpZeY: Thanks
[10:16] <bruno_> i burned an iso to upgrade ubuntu breezy -> feisty but when i launch the CD what does i choose?
[10:16] <simone_> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu live cd. I have tried ubuntu 7.04 32 bit and ubuntu gutsy amd64 daily build. Both gave me the following error: "can't access tty; job control turned off". In casper.log i have some errors related to /dev/loop* and squashfs. My hw is "asus m2npv-vm | amd 3800+ socket am2 | 1gb ddr2 ram | pioneer dvr 112d". Any suggestion?
[10:16] <gabbarinho> wow, better
[10:16] <thagoat> nice my realtec sux
[10:16] <gabbarinho> what does "ls" stand for?
[10:16] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: I always thought it was list
[10:16] <gabbarinho> makes sense
[10:16] <bruno_> install or update the drivers?
[10:16] <davina> gabbarinho, ls is a command line command to list the contents of a directory
[10:16] <gabbarinho> is there an equivalent of "cd"?
[10:16] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: cd
[10:16] <gabbarinho> i guess i'm already in the desktop
[10:16] <gabbarinho> oh.
[10:16] <PurpZeY> ramorek: I only speak for myself, and personal experience, but my uptime on my laptop is over 8 days...and my desktop probably 15-20.
[10:17] <[1] carsten> davina, thank you for you help. i will just try to create the directories with sudo.
[10:17] <davina> gabbarinho, ls is like dir
[10:17] <[1] carsten> bye
[10:17] <thagoat> uptime on desktop...64 days  hahahaha
[10:17] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: when you start a terminal you start in /home/username/
[10:17] <gabbarinho> so... er...
[10:17] <ramorek> im wondering how in the world DELL will deal with the problems ? if i got in cause i almost figured it out and i have some xperince imagine some reagular windows transitioner
[10:17] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: You'll know when you switched desktops. xcfe is going to look different than gnome.
[10:17] <|johnybot|> desktop is in /home/username/Desktop/
[10:17] <gabbarinho> what is this ~$ thing?
[10:17] <gabbarinho> right
[10:17] <Spliffster> ramorek: i have just recently upgraded my evrey day desktop from edgy to feisty (7.4) this desktop is highly customized (beryl, skins, gnome-config) and runs a bunch of daemons for my daily development work (such as mailserver, ldap, kerberos, etc.) i have not had a single problem after upgrading. and it is running 4 weeks now (uptime 29 days). ...
[10:17] <gabbarinho> more minimalist, i suppose
[10:18] <gabbarinho> less pretty... but then again - no brown is a plus
[10:18] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: That indicates your privaliges.
[10:18] <thagoat> dell just dropped linux support,,,losers
[10:18] <weitzman> Anyone here familiar with making linux and orinoco wireless cards get along?
[10:18] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: doesnt look like shit(haha)
[10:18] <gabbarinho> ~$ indicates that i have dollars?
[10:18] <PurpZeY> thagoat: They didn't drop it totally.
[10:18] <ramorek> the DELL thing wont fly for long
[10:18] <|johnybot|> but you can change theme in GNOME
[10:18] <gabbarinho> right!
[10:18] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: $ is user.....# is root.
[10:18] <gabbarinho> i guess it's supposed to be "earthy"
[10:18] <gabbarinho> ah
[10:18] <ramorek> spliff will you answer the PM ?
[10:18] <gabbarinho> could you please tell me how i can navigate to my desktop directory?
[10:19] <Spliffster> ramorek: i didn't get any, sry
[10:19] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: hit ls
[10:19] <clutchmm> n2diy_: are you still on?
[10:19] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: I take that back.
[10:19] <gabbarinho> seems to list the files in my... er... "steve" directory
[10:19] <bruno_> can someone help me to upgrade my ubuntu?
[10:19] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: Case sensative
[10:19] <thagoat> gabbarino...places desktop
[10:19] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: Desktop
[10:19] <ramorek> NO ! lol
[10:19] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: cd Desktop
[10:19] <ramorek> dont upgrade
[10:19] <thagoat> newbie in root lol
[10:19] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: it is case sensitive.
[10:20] <ramorek> if it runs leave it be !
[10:20] <forever> hi there
[10:20] <forever> i want to know how can i format my ipod in linux?
[10:20] <forever> is there any way to use linux system in ipod?
[10:20] <thagoat> not yet forever
[10:20] <forever> hi
[10:20] <forever> anybody can help me about ipod in linux?
[10:20] <thagoat> butr soooooon!!
[10:20] <forever> i can t format it in ubuntu
[10:20] <|johnybot|> http://www.ipodlinux.org/
[10:20] <gabbarinho> there we go
[10:20] <forever> and if i have to format can i use it with ubuntu system
[10:20] <thagoat> goodl uck
[10:20] <gabbarinho> would "alien blah.rpm" install the file?
[10:21] <|johnybot|> no
[10:21] <thagoat> anyone use VNC to comtroll there second pc?
[10:21] <|johnybot|> sudo alien -i package-name.rpm
[10:21] <Spliffster> forever: there is a bunch of software out there to be usied with an ipod on linux. go google for it. depending on your favorite gui toolkit there is a lot of choice
[10:21] <gabbarinho> what is the sudo command, exactly?
[10:21] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: for any program, if you don't know how to use it 'man <programname>' so man alien would help you out there...Or ask here...=)
[10:21] <vicente> thagoat: i usually use ssh but i have used vnc before
[10:21] <PurpZeY> !sudo | gabbarinho
[10:21] <ubotu> gabbarinho: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:21] <gabbarinho> ah
[10:22] <gabbarinho> thanks!
[10:22] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Basically, root is not great for everyday use, b/c you can mess things up, sudo helps to avoid that
[10:22] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: if the file name is package-name.rpm just type pa then hit tab
[10:22] <|johnybot|> auto complete!
[10:22] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: in english. sudo is used to run programms as other an other user, for example as root (the admin user). therefore you do not need to log out and log in again all the time
[10:22] <thagoat> vicente: did u get a lotof "can't eject volume" errors with vnc
[10:22] <ramorek> is anyone in here good with linux ?
[10:23] <|johnybot|> ramorek: i am!
[10:23] <Spliffster> ramorek: i am using it for 15 yeas, but good ... well
[10:23] <thagoat> thst would be most of us ramorek
[10:23] <clutchmm> I was about to install a new VM with vmware server, but I want to install FC 5 or 6 and neither of them where on the list, the closest thing was Red Hat Linux "I believe it's closest", will that work or should I choose "other"?
[10:23] <puff> forever: One thing to watch out for, 5th gen ipods have encrypted firmware, so they are not yet usable with linux.
[10:23] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Auto-complete w/ tab works in most irc programs too...just type the beginning of a name, and then tab and poof full name
[10:23] <gabbarinho> aha
[10:23] <m1r> how to reconfigure all hardware on ubuntu HDD transfer ?
[10:24] <gabbarinho> well, i entered the alien command - i guess it worked
[10:24] <ramorek> ok then someone tell me what happend when i upgraded and restarted, when i login under the x(something) session it looks all scratchy and messed up and when i log into gnome session it works ?
[10:24] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Also, a lot of people have their IRC client to look for their name and colorize that line, so if you are talking to someone specific, that helps.
[10:24] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: did it spit a deb out ?
[10:24] <gabbarinho> is there a way i can, well, tell?
[10:24] <gabbarinho> hmm... not on the desktop
[10:24] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: what were you installing
[10:24] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: what was in the rpm?
[10:24] <gabbarinho> it's a program called sopcast
[10:24] <gabbarinho> TV streaming
[10:24] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Try running it
[10:24] <sx67> PurpZeY: should i put sudo /path/to/firefox/firefox -safe-mode
[10:24] <|johnybot|> in terminal type sopcast
[10:24] <thagoat> irc movie downloads?
[10:24] <gabbarinho> oh, right
[10:24] <thagoat> neone
[10:25] <PurpZeY> sx67: If you get a permissios error, yes.
[10:25] <gabbarinho> command not found, it says
[10:25] <makuseru> hwo can i find out my processor speed from a terminal?
[10:25] <gabbarinho> the command was "sudo alien -i package.rpm" right?
[10:25] <Spliffster> ramorek: try the fllowing. create a test user and log into xfce. if this works well but not with your old youser. your xfce profile is screwed up. i am no xfce user (not for a long time) and therefore can't give you detailed instructiosn how to fix it. it must be somewhere in your home dir in a .xfce* file or folder
[10:25] <sx67> PurpZeY: it just says command not sound
[10:26] <Spliffster> soundcard not configured ?
[10:26] <Spliffster> :-P
[10:26] <PurpZeY> sx67: run it with sudo.
[10:26] <gabbarinho> it basically... waits for a few seconds, then it allows me to enter commands again
[10:26] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Sounds about right.
[10:26] <gabbarinho> there is no indication that anything occurred
[10:26] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: try typing just sop then use tab to auto complete
[10:26] <ramorek> does it matter what session i log into ? is there a difference between xfce and gnome ? should i just ignore it ?
[10:26] <gabbarinho> nope - not found
[10:26] <PurpZeY> |johnybot|: Is it possible it needs to be compiled?
[10:27] <sx67> PurpZeY: still command not found
[10:27] <PurpZeY> ramorek: It doesn't matter except if you care which manager you're using.
[10:27] <Spliffster> ramorek: xfce/gnome/kde share the xwindow configuration and tht's about it. the desktop specific configs are stored seperately by every environment. so yes, it does matter.
[10:27] <PurpZeY> sx67: cd /usr/lib
[10:27] <gabbarinho> here's something interesting though - now when i double click on the rpm, it OPENS
[10:27] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: try sp-sc
[10:27] <gabbarinho> previously i was told that this type of file was not recognized
[10:27] <ramorek> but theyre all the same shh.. ?
[10:27] <gabbarinho> sp-sc?
[10:27] <forever> i just want to format my ipod in ubuntu, can anybody tell me if i can pls?
[10:28] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: probably alien
[10:28] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: That means alien installed properly, you can probably extract it using the GUI now...but it sounds like johny is helping you and knows more than I.
[10:28] <Spliffster> ramorek: no they are not
[10:28] <thagoat> ok secret for ssh connections?
[10:28] <Spliffster> otherwise there wouldnt be gnome/xfce/kde if they were the same ;-P
[10:28] <ramorek> whats the difference ?
[10:28] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: type sp-sc in terminal
[10:28] <PurpZeY> ramorek: The difference is mostly preference.
[10:29] <ramorek> like ?
[10:29] <ramorek> they all look the same to me
[10:29] <Spliffster> ramorek: do you want to do a philosophy hour with Dr. Spliffster or fix your problem ?
[10:29] <|johnybot|> sp-sc is the executable file
[10:29] <gabbarinho> no reaction, unfortunately - command not found
[10:29] <ramorek> lol
[10:29] <thagoat> anyone use ssh to control their second pc?
[10:29] <Spliffster> ramorek: they differ ... just try and experiment with em
[10:29] <Deadmeat996> hello
[10:29] <ramorek> my MAIN goal is to figure out if this thing can be counted on for everyday operations
[10:29] <Spliffster> ramorek: it is really a matter of _taste_
[10:29] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: why not try using VLC to stream video
[10:30] <thagoat> vlc is great
[10:30] <porthose_> how do I export all my emails in evolution and save them to a file
[10:30] <ramorek> well gnome is running better for me .. faster that is.. is that a difference ?
[10:30] <gabbarinho> this is a special program that streams certain foreign channels
[10:30] <gabbarinho> it's p2p software essentially
[10:30] <PurpZeY> ramorek: Yes.
[10:30] <gabbarinho> i use it to watch the english premier league
[10:30] <sx67> PurpZeY: http://i17.tinypic.com/4le5cv9.png
[10:30] <ramorek> ok maybe i get the idea.. some sessions work better for certain people
[10:30] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: I will look and see if there is any documentation
[10:30] <PurpZeY> ramorek: right
[10:30] <forever> how to format ipod in ubuntu pls?
[10:30] <gabbarinho> well... i can see the package now, at least
[10:30] <ramorek> see how simple that was
[10:30] <ramorek> lol
[10:31] <silvernode> hey whats a good firewall for linux?
[10:31] <gabbarinho> and i guess i can instead these tarz.bz2, tgz things
[10:31] <thagoat> a router
[10:31] <ramorek> so how do i figure out if this thing can be counted on for everyday operations ??
[10:31] <thagoat> lol
[10:31] <gabbarinho> er, install
[10:31] <PurpZeY> sx67: Stop trying to run /path/to/firefox
[10:31] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258049
[10:31] <ramorek> and not crash on me out-of-the-blue ?
[10:31] <PurpZeY> sx67: type this into term ls | grep fire
[10:31] <thagoat> ubuntu doesnt crash
[10:31] <PurpZeY> @thagoat
[10:31] <ramorek> not for you at least
[10:31] <Spliffster> ramorek: xfce (when well configured) should be faster/slicker. gnome is a fully bload Desktop environment with the focus on minimizing features/displayed options (really xen!) and then there is kde, it has everything but a kitchen sink and it wil tell you in every dialog. you get a kazillion of options you probably never need. it's a question of preferences, your preferences
[10:31] <|johnybot|> step 1 download http://download.sopcast.org/download/sp-sc.tgz
[10:32] <thagoat> fuck kde
[10:32] <PurpZeY> !ohmy
[10:32] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:32] <gabbarinho> oh, wow
[10:32] <Carb0n> I'm having suspending my laptop (running Feisty)
[10:32] <Spliffster> thagoat: kde is cool, yous depends on _your_ needs!
[10:32] <thagoat> sorry
[10:32] <ramorek> thanks spliff
[10:32] <Spliffster> yw
[10:32] <ramorek> now my other ques.
[10:32] <Carb0n> when it wakes up, X can't come back
[10:32] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: tell me when you r done that
[10:32] <thagoat> left windoze for a reason kde sux
[10:32] <ramorek> how do i figure out if this thing can be counted on for everyday operations
[10:32] <PurpZeY> Carb0n: Some people have problems wth suspend to memory.
[10:32] <PurpZeY> ramorek: Use it for a few days?
[10:33] <|johnybot|> ramorek: use it everyday
[10:33] <Small_Mac> what program in windows can i use to burn kubuntu onto a blank cd, thx
[10:33] <sx67> PurpZeY: two commands come up for ls | grep fire: they are firefox, and mozilla firefox, no savemode
[10:33] <|johnybot|> Small_Mac: Nero
[10:33] <gabbarinho> done!
[10:33] <thagoat> nero
[10:33] <Carb0n> PurpZeY: Even hibernating does't work properly
[10:33] <PurpZeY> sx67: Ok, just type firefox safe-mode
[10:33] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: is it on your desktop?
[10:33] <gabbarinho> yep
[10:33] <thagoat> hibernate or suspend is tragic
[10:33] <ramorek> so i have to test this OS out ?
[10:34] <PurpZeY> Carb0n: My laptop hiberates and it takes so long to come back I might as well reboot.
[10:34] <simone_> during the boo of ubuntu live cd (7.04 and gutsy daily build) I have this error: "can't access tty; job control tuned off". Then i have a minimal bash "(initramfs)". Media is ok. Any idea?
[10:34] <|johnybot|> right click it and select extract here
[10:34] <Spliffster> ramorek: a linux system is usually stable. if it starts doing things wrong or strange, google for error messages. usually any problem can be solved in a short time (you get a lot of detailed error logs). if you cant resolve the problem via google, come here and have the error messages or logs ready and you will be helped!
[10:34] <forever> come on, i need help people to format my ipod in linux
[10:34] <PurpZeY> ramorek: We are telling you it works. You want to know if it will work everyday. If you don't believe us you have to try.
[10:34] <gabbarinho> done
[10:34] <forever> help people to format my ipod in linux
[10:34] <ramorek> i know but i did for a while and ended up rebooting on winxp for a while
[10:34] <|johnybot|> open terminal
[10:35] <ramorek> cause ubuntu kept freezing on me
[10:35] <PurpZeY> forever: www.ipodlinux.org
[10:35] <|johnybot|> cd Desktop
[10:35] <forever> help people to format my ipod in linux
[10:35] <Carb0n> PurpZeY: It didn't have problems with the default kernel.  When I updated the kernel all trouble started showing up
[10:35] <gabbarinho> and cd sp-sc, i suppose?
[10:35] <|johnybot|> cd sp-sc
[10:35] <Spliffster> forever: if you want to run linux on your ipod, check this: http://www.rockbox.org/ ... but be assured. you need quiet some linux knowledge
[10:35] <|johnybot|> yes
[10:35] <PurpZeY> forever: I just gave you a website.
[10:35] <Carb0n> PurpZey: Know any method to resolve it?
[10:35] <Gothfunc> just installed ubuntu feisty server on my desktop.  everything goes smoothly until i get tot he login prompt.  my keyboard doesn't work.  when i reboot my keyboard works, until i get to the login prompt.  help :(
[10:35] <forever> PurpZeY thx
[10:36] <sogen> gabbarinho: how i can split files?
[10:36] <ramorek> OK, so how is it i can figure out if the xfce session is all screwed up ?
[10:36] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: sudo cp sp-sc /usr/local/bin/
[10:36] <forever> PurpZeY: im going there to see
[10:36] <PurpZeY> Carb0n: I personally don't want to suspend to RAM. b/c I just assume shutdown so I've never even tried, like I said hibernate takes so long, it's not even woth it.
[10:36] <Carb0n> PurpZey: OK
[10:36] <PurpZeY> ramorek: If you can't get into it properly, it's probably not right.
[10:36] <gabbarinho> done!
[10:36] <Spliffster> ramorek: create a new user in gnome, log out, log into xfce. if the new user can log in and the old can't come back here
[10:36] <ramorek> so if gnome works with the same usr then stick with gnome ?
[10:36] <forever> Spliffster: im going to analyze
[10:37] <SerCanii> hi, How can I connect my ubuntu via samba server? I insstall samba and create a folder but when I try to reach my ubuntu it ask me user name and pass, I create an acc but still I cant login :(
[10:37] <|johnybot|> http://linuxtoy.org/deb/gtksopcast_0.1.1-1_i386.deb download and run
[10:37] <Spliffster> forever: good luck
[10:37] <sx67> PurpZeY: http://i8.tinypic.com/4y4zs49.png
[10:37] <nathan_murr> thats funny, any sudo command from alt-f2 won't work anymore - for instance sudo nautilus....
[10:37] <Spliffster> forever: i have seen it on a friends iRiver, rockbox really rox!
[10:37] <PurpZeY> ramorek: Many people use gnome b/c it's standard for ubuntu install.
[10:37] <iseng>  /server phoenix.ui.edu
[10:38] <gabbarinho> hmm, that takes me to a webpage and not a direct download link
[10:38] <ramorek> where can i learn all about the filessytem how it works and the sudo, and all that ?
[10:38] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho:  oops
[10:38] <sx67> PurpZeY: the command launches it I believe in safemode, but just searches for it...
[10:38] <Spliffster> ramorek: if xfce does only not work with your user, how about fix it ? :-P
[10:38] <|johnybot|> http://linuxtoy.org/files/deb/gtk-sopcast_0.2.8-1_i386.deb
[10:38] <gabbarinho> a webpage with... chinese!
[10:38] <ramorek> ok spliff how ?
[10:38] <gabbarinho> got it :)
[10:39] <Spliffster> ramorek: first make sure xfce does work with another user, create one, log into xfce with the new user. if you can confirm it is only your user, then we get to the next step ... one after another.
[10:39] <|johnybot|> it opens with package installer (gdebi
[10:39] <ramorek> why do i fin linux so darn intimidating ?? i hate windows !!! why god did i learn it ?
[10:39] <bucat> ^^ hi guys
[10:39] <sx67> PurpZeY: what time is it there?
[10:39] <ramorek> ok brb
[10:39] <Spliffster> ramorek: gonna smoke 1. be back in 5
[10:39] <|johnybot|> bucat: high
[10:39] <PurpZeY> sx67: It's 4:40....I will try to help you real fast before I go to bed though
[10:39] <sx67> k, :D
[10:40] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: ?
sudo smbpasswd -a your_user
[10:40] <sx67> PurpZeY: http://i11.tinypic.com/6cxzxg3.png
[10:40] <forever> Spliffster: i wish these programs doesn t break my ipod or create problems, r u sure this sites r trusted?
[10:40] <ramorek> ok ummm how do i logout of ubuntu ?
[10:41] <ramorek> i cant find the darn thing anywhere
[10:41] <PurpZeY> sx67: Dude, what about that little arrow in the upper left? and also, this is what you got from firefox safe-mode ?
[10:41] <|johnybot|> ramorek: its in the system menu
[10:41] <momo> hello everybody
[10:41] <|johnybot|> ramorek: bottom choice
[10:41] <momo> i have a problem
[10:41] <momo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:41] <momo> how can i fix that ?
[10:42] <sx67> PurpZeY: the icon the on upper left makes the window max, mini, or close...not restore icons
[10:42] <|johnybot|> momo: do you know how to open a terminal?
[10:42] <momo> yes
[10:42] <SerCanii> zentux_: thnx
[10:42] <PurpZeY> sx67: Wow, you're right that is interesting, just a sec.
[10:42] <|johnybot|> open one and type in sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:42] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: too busy watching soccer?
[10:43] <Spliffster> forever: i am sure this site is trusted. the software will not break your ipod but ou migh by not following instructions
[10:43] <sx67> PurpZeY: wow, I am doing everything by command, ctrl+k and stuff to browse the web
[10:43] <PurpZeY> sx67: No, no I got that, I mean, I tried to run the safe-mode, and I realized it brought me to safe mode.com
[10:43] <PurpZeY> sx67: one sec.
 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Samba_Server
[10:44] <PurpZeY> sx67: Ok, you're still in /usr/lib ?
[10:44] <momo> it worked
[10:44] <momo> thank you
[10:44] <sx67> PurpZeY: yes
[10:44] <|johnybot|> momo:  dance time!
[10:44] <PurpZeY> sx67: Ok, now cd firefox
[10:44] <momo> lol
[10:44] <SerCanii> zentux_: this is usefull, thnx again
[10:44] <Spliffster> gaaaaa Mirc users ;)
[10:44] <tester> hello ?
[10:44] <tester> its ramorek here
[10:44] <|johnybot|> Spliffster: KVIRC all the way!
[10:45] <forever> Spliffster: thx for this news
[10:45] <Spliffster> omg
[10:45] <tester> spliffster you there ?
[10:45] <Spliffster> forever: yw
[10:45] <sx67> I am not in user/lib how do i get back there PurpZeY
[10:45] <gabbarinho> johny, it works!
[10:45] <gabbarinho> i can't thank you enough
[10:45] <Spliffster> tester: how does xfce look like ?
[10:45] <tester> doesnt load
[10:45] <Spliffster> ok
[10:45] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho:  haha i tried watchin soccer but too slow
[10:45] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: anything else you need to get
[10:45] <tester> gives me an error about not being able to load
[10:45] <Spliffster> tester: so your xfce setup might be screwed ... back to plan B
[10:45] <gabbarinho> that program was one of the last reasons i still needed windows
[10:45] <gabbarinho> you mean the sport itself or the stream?
[10:46] <Ubuntu-Qatar> hello
[10:46] <tester> should i go back to my other usr ?
[10:46] <|johnybot|> the stream ahahahhaa
[10:46] <PurpZeY> sx67: cd /usr/lib/firefox
[10:46] <Spliffster> tester: go back to your other user, log into gnome
[10:46] <tester> brb
[10:46] <PurpZeY> sx67: Please work quickly with me I want to get to sleep before the sun comes up.
[10:46] <gabbarinho> oh - it's p2p, so the streams are usually only good when the games are being played live :)
[10:46] <Spliffster> ok
[10:46] <|johnybot|> any being played now?
[10:46] <visik7> gdebi has problems with compiz
[10:46] <gabbarinho> not at 10AM in england, i'm afraid
[10:47] <sx67> iam going
[10:47] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: less likely at 1:47 in canada
[10:47] <ramorek> back
[10:47] <Spliffster> ok
[10:47] <Ubuntu-Qatar> hi all , how can i setup corssover tp read arabic text? please
[10:47] <gabbarinho> yeah!
[10:47] <Spliffster> ramorek: at best you open a terminal
[10:47] <ramorek> ok open ..
[10:47] <sx67> http://i18.tinypic.com/6au4wg8.png PurpZeY
[10:48] <momo> i have a problem installing java
[10:48] <PurpZeY> sx67: Yes, you're good now. Ok, so now, run firefox safe-mode
[10:48] <Spliffster> ok, ramorek do the following: sudo apt-get remove --purge xfce
[10:48] <|johnybot|> momo: whats the dealio?
[10:48] <momo> i enter the command sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[10:48] <Spliffster> ramorek: theis should remove xfce
[10:49] <momo> then i have a blue window
[10:49] <sx67> PurpZeY: it does a search for safe mode
[10:49] <ramorek> Reading package lists... Done
[10:49] <ramorek> Building dependency tree
[10:49] <ramorek> Reading state information... Done
[10:49] <ramorek> E: Couldn't find package xfce
[10:49] <|johnybot|> xfce4 is the package i think
[10:49] <weitzman> The outlook is bleak, but I'll ask just in case of a miracle
[10:49] <momo> "configuration of sun-java-jre
[10:49] <weitzman> True or false: There does not exist a driver for the Proxim Orinoco Silver wireless card on linux 2.6. (manfid: 0x0156, 0x0003 function: 6 (network))
[10:49] <Spliffster> ramorek: sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <|johnybot|> momo: can you not go through configuration?
[10:50] <PurpZeY> sx67: Ok, my mistake firefox -safe-mode
[10:50] <momo> i can't do anything from there
[10:50] <DarkED> hey all, could anybody tell me what i'm doing wrong here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24188/
[10:50] <Spliffster> ramorek: this will take a while, in the meantime you can clean up your home directory
[10:50] <ramorek> ramorek@linbox:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <ramorek> Reading package lists... Done
[10:50] <ramorek> Building dependency tree
[10:50] <ramorek> Reading state information... Done
[10:50] <ramorek> Package xubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[10:50] <momo> i tried to click ok
[10:50] <ramorek> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[10:50] <ramorek>   beryl-core libopenexr2c2a evolution-common gstreamer0.8-jpeg libarts1c2a
[10:50] <ramorek>   libmono2.0-cil gstreamer0.8-swfdec emerald-themes libmono-data-tds2.0-cil
[10:50] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-festival libmono-system-data2.0-cil
[10:50] <ramorek>   openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev gstreamer0.8-hermes gstreamer0.8-theora
[10:50] <mynullvoid> hi all
[10:50] <ramorek>   libwxgtk2.6-0 kdelibs-data cdda2wav libtagc0 refblas3 command-not-found-data
[10:50] <gabbarinho> johny, if you ever wanted to try watching a game, this site maintains a schedule with direct sopstream links: http://www.myp2p.eu/
[10:50] <ramorek>   liblualib50 libpcre3 gstreamer0.8-plugin-apps libsgutils1 gstreamer0.8-dvd
[10:50] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-artsd gstreamer0.8-esd libndesk-dbus1.0-cil lapack3
[10:50] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-mikmod gstreamer0.8-gsm gstreamer0.8-gtk libwavpack0
[10:50] <Spliffster> !pastebin | ramorek
[10:50] <ubotu> ramorek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:50] <ramorek>   gcc-3.4-base libmono-cairo2.0-cil gstreamer0.8-speex gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:50] <|johnybot|> momo: a screanshot might help
[10:50] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-caca gstreamer0.8-mms beryl-manager gstreamer0.8-a52dec
[10:50] <mynullvoid> how do I extract solaris pkg
[10:50] <ramorek>   libberylsettings0 gstreamer0.8-oss gstreamer0.8-alsa gstreamer0.8-sdl
[10:50] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-cdio gstreamer0.8-sid boo librpcsecgss2 gstreamer0.8-audiofile
[10:50] <ramorek>   libmono-sharpzip0.6-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libavahi-qt3-1 libwv-1.2-1
[10:51] <ramorek>   libwv-1.2-3 libegroupwise1.2-13 libwxbase2.6-0 gstreamer0.8-aa icedax
[10:51] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-dv libntfs8 libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil
[10:51] <Spliffster> ggaaaaaahhh ramorek
[10:51] <ramorek>   libdvdnav4 libwps-0.1-1 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil
[10:51] <PurpZeY> DarkED: Did you run it as sudo?
[10:51] <ramorek>   beryl-plugins gstreamer0.8-flac gstreamer0.8-tools libavahi1.0-cil
[10:51] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-x gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 myspell-en-za
[10:51] <ramorek>   emerald libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libmono-system-runtime1.0-cil
[10:51] <PurpZeY> Ack ack
[10:51] <DarkED> PurpZeY: no i did not
[10:51] <ramorek>   libemeraldengine0 beryl-plugins-data liblua50 hermes1 libg2c0
[10:51] <ramorek>   libberyldecoration0 libgsf0.0-cil libntfs-3g0 libnjb5 libmono-system2.0-cil
[10:51] <ramorek>   gstreamer0.8-musepack gstreamer0.8-cdparanoia
[10:51] <DarkED> PurpZeY: do i need to do that?
[10:51] <ramorek> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[10:51] <ramorek> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:51] <PurpZeY> DarkED: Run it as sudo
[10:51] <ramorek> sorry guys
[10:51] <ramorek> ok how do i use it ?
[10:51] <sx67> PurpZeY: it just lauches the browser, nothing in safemode user accounts to disable the add-ons
[10:51] <DarkED> PurpZeY: will try, thank you!
[10:51] <ramorek> !pastebin | ramorek
[10:51] <Spliffster> ramorek: xfce is not installed on your system or is not propperly installed.
[10:52] <Spliffster> ramorek: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <DarkED> PurpZeY: same error
[10:52] <bionoid> DarkED: libxext-dev
[10:52] <Spliffster> ramorek: only post the last line of the output here pls
[10:52] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: anything else in windows you cant get in Ubuntu
[10:52] <ramorek> ok
[10:52] <PurpZeY> sx67: Ok, basically, I'm not sure what the deal is, I'm going to give it one more shot, and then I have to go to bed...but I am sure someone in #firefox can help.
[10:52] <ramorek> After unpacking 184MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:52] <ramorek> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[10:53] <|johnybot|> Y
[10:53] <DarkED> bionoid: oooh thanks!
[10:53] <Spliffster> y
[10:53] <PurpZeY> sx67: That command should give you safe-mode, are you sure there is not some window hidden behind?
[10:53] <gabbarinho> nothing i can think of, johny
[10:53] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho:
[10:53] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: damn im outa halp juice :(
[10:53] <|johnybot|> help*
[10:53] <gabbarinho> sopcast will do nicely for now
[10:53] <gabbarinho> hehe
[10:53] <ramorek> is xubuntu the OS ?
[10:53] <phanto1> can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[10:54] <cry0x> ramorek, no, it's only the desktop environment xfce and associated programs
[10:54] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: you know you can press up in a terminal to get your previous commands?
[10:54] <Spliffster> ramorek: this will take a min. in the meanwile some help to make your desicion. xfce is good if you have a slow cpu or not much ram (say below 500mb) gnome on the other hand is convenient if you have a recent pc (say not older than 4-5 years)
[10:54] <CocoAUS> what's the command to rename a partition?
[10:54] <momo> there is the link for the screen shot http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturemomomomodesktopzv2.png
[10:54] <DarkED> bionoid: that seems to be the one i was missing... will let you know if anything else goes foul, but thank you!
[10:54] <gabbarinho> you mean scroll up? i noticed that - an improvement on dos
[10:54] <bionoid> DarkED: np :)
[10:54] <PurpZeY> sx67: You with me still?
[10:54] <sx67> yes
[10:54] <sx67> hold on
[10:54] <|johnybot|> CocoAUS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=342168
[10:55] <ramorek> is there a sys preferences to see ram in ubuntu ?
[10:55] <sx67> ooo....
[10:55] <gabbarinho> i am gonna have to get used to typing again - but that's something i expect i'll enjoy
[10:55] <Spliffster> ramorek: xubuntu is "only" the desktop environment. you have choice there between many DE's. the linux kernel, GNU userland tools and the daemons (like webserver, mailserver, etc.) make up the operating system.
[10:55] <gabbarinho> especially as a laptop user (keyboard > trackpad)
[10:55] <cry0x> ramorek, System Monitor, or type "top" or "free" in the terminal
[10:55] <CocoAUS> thanks johnybot
[10:55] <sx67> IT WORKED$#($)#Q
[10:55] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: If you have problems with your touchpad, there are even packages to help with that.
[10:55] <PurpZeY> sx67: What changed?
[10:55] <sx67> dude that took way too long for (2 hours) for safemode fire fire
[10:55] <Gothfunc> hi, just installed ubuntu feisty server on my desktop.  everything goes smoothly until i get tot he login prompt.  my keyboard doesn't work.  when i reboot my keyboard works, until i get to the login prompt. the keyboard stops working exactly after "setting up console font and keymap" on startup.  same happens in single user mode.  how can i fix this?
[10:55] <|johnybot|> momo: make sure the window is in focus
[10:55] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: aaargh ...i  feel your pain with laptop keyboards ... where was that fscking [ again ? ;)
[10:56] <CocoAUS> i'm actually looking to name the partition rather than just the mount folders
[10:56] <gabbarinho> well, i think it's the hardware rather than the software that's the problem there - or perhaps my fingers :)
[10:56] <ramorek> ok spliff its done
[10:56] <sx67> it is back to default PurpZeY
[10:56] <|johnybot|> momo: press tab to highlight ok
[10:56] <sx67> I disabled addons
[10:56] <neil_feisty> what could i use in gnome for bluetooth app
[10:56] <|johnybot|> momo: then pres enter
[10:56] <gabbarinho> my keyboard is actually reasonable
[10:56] <Spliffster> ok ramorek try to log in with your user and xfce ... it should hopefully work now
[10:56] <PurpZeY> sx67: How did the safemode window finally come up? Did you do something different?
[10:56] <phanto1> Can somebody please tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[10:56] <neil_feisty> what could i use in gnome for bluetooth app
[10:56] <PurpZeY> sx67: Was it hiding behind the other window?
[10:56] <gabbarinho> i wish i had one of those thinkpads though
[10:56] <Spliffster> ramorek: good luck
[10:56] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: usually you dont have to type anything but its faster if you know what your doing
[10:56] <ramorek> k brb
[10:57] <sx67> I closed all windows, restarted the command prompt, typed everything back in and it worked
[10:57] <gabbarinho> what other kinds of stuff do you do in terminal?
[10:57] <cry0x> everything
[10:57] <gabbarinho> well, i suppose you can do *everything*
[10:57] <Spliffster> |johnybot|: so how do you write your messages in irc without typing ... zen !? :-P
[10:57] <PurpZeY> sx67: Alls well that ends well I suppose. Glad it worked out.
[10:57] <zaggynl> !advisories
[10:57] <gabbarinho> still, SOME things have to be easier with the GUI, right? :)
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advisories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <tarelerulz> Does Ubuntu 7.04 come with the dvd decoding package for  encrypted dvds?
[10:57] <Ap4ch3> I can't boot kernel 2.6.20-16-generic on my amd dell box. I get some sort of apic i/o or bios memory map error. When it does boot i loose my hauppage usb dvb hardware, if i manually include the firmware i was using in kernel 2.6.20-15-generic it won't boot either. Anyone having similar issues?
[10:57] <PurpZeY> tarelerulz: No.
[10:57] <PurpZeY> !dvd
[10:57] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:57] <sx67> yes, now next project is to fix my resolution
[10:57] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a website were they keep ubuntu security advisories?
[10:57] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: like when you right click > extract here
[10:57] <neil_feisty> !bluettoth
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bluettoth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <CocoAUS> !pdisk
[10:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:58] <zaggynl> Or should I just look for debian ones?
[10:58] <hans_> Hi! anyone have any familiarity with Ubuntu 6.06 server and can explain why it does not read ubuntu /var/spool/cron/crontabs ? hehe
[10:58] <neil_feisty> !bluetooth
[10:58] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:58] <PurpZeY> I am going to bed.
[10:58] <sx67> PurpZeY: good night :D
[10:58] <ramorek> ok this works
[10:58] <ramorek> but theres a problem
[10:58] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[10:58] <ramorek> the session was XGL not XFCE
[10:58] <ramorek> is there a diff ?
[10:58] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: try installing lynx (sudo apt-get install lynx)
[10:59] <Spliffster> zaggynl: the ubuntu update manager tells you about updates and you also get a change log. i know its not the same as advisories but they seem to be pretty fast rolling out updates
[10:59] <gabbarinho> is there a shortcut to bring up terminal?
[10:59] <Stilling> can someone help me with ubuntu
[10:59] <zaggynl> Spliffster, sure thing, I was wondering if there was an archive, I'
[10:59] <PurpZeY> sx67: I am not necessarily this kind of guy, but I am tired, so maybe I am being cranky...but thank people when they help you...; )...I am happy to help, but also, happy to know I was was helpful...
[10:59] <Stilling> i have a little problem
[10:59] <|johnybot|> ctrl-f2 i think
[10:59] <zaggynl> ll look at the ubuntu site
[10:59] <Spliffster> zaggynl: try insecure.org
[10:59] <zaggynl> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[10:59] <PurpZeY> gabbarinho: Enjoy your new setup.
[10:59] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: if you go into Accessories  and right click terminal you can put a shortcut on the panel
[10:59] <Spliffster> ramorek: what's the problem ?
[11:00] <tarelerulz> What is the name for  the package for encyripted dvd ?
[11:00] <sx67> I did, it prob got lost because of your handel
[11:00] <ramorek> the session was XGL not XFCE
[11:00] <ramorek> is there a diff ?
[11:00] <gabbarinho> ah, good idea - thanks
[11:00] <Spliffster> ugh
[11:00] <sx67> PurpZeY: I did, thanks again :D
[11:00] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:00] <Spliffster> XGL and XFCE are not the same
[11:00] <PurpZeY> sx67: Oh ok...=)...No worries man....Take it easy. Enjoy your fixed browser...
[11:00] <gabbarinho> purp - i sure will
[11:00] <sx67> yes
[11:00] <Stilling> who can help me with bash: ./sc: cannot execute binary file please
[11:00] <Spliffster> ramorek: is there a specific reason you want to use xgl ?
[11:00] <tony_> who
[11:00] <gabbarinho> ah, lynx - i've heard of this for years
[11:00] <ramorek>  no its just the default one that was set
[11:01] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: after you install lynx just type lynx in the command line and hit enter
[11:01] <Spliffster> gabbarinho: prolly because lyx got superseeded by links and then by w3m ? :-P
[11:01] <gabbarinho> man, this is like using DOS all over again
[11:01] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: now your browsing with power!!!!
[11:01] <gabbarinho> hehe
[11:01] <gabbarinho> ASCII > flash
[11:01] <|johnybot|> haha
[11:02] <muriu> |johnybot|, does openoffice have a feature like the office clipboard in windows office?
[11:02] <Spliffster> ramorek: if oyu are not going to use fancy 3d stuff, you do not need xgl. if you want a really stable system, you might want to leave xgl aside untill you get a bit familliar with the system
[11:02] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:02] <|johnybot|> muriu: what is the office clipboard?
[11:02] <Rage> [anything]  > flash
[11:02] <ramorek> spliffster how about if i want to use beryl ?
[11:02] <Spliffster> ramorek: then you need to install beryl :)
[11:03] <ramorek> but on gnome right ?
[11:03] <ramorek> i dont like xfce
[11:03] <ramorek> lol
[11:03] <ramorek> alot of icons are not working
[11:03] <gabbarinho> man
[11:03] <gabbarinho> how do I enter a URL?
[11:03] <Spliffster> ramorek: abou your concerns about stability. altough i am using beryl i would not recommend it to someone who demands a super stable environment. beryl is still beta.
[11:03] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: press g
[11:03] <|johnybot|> then type url
[11:03] <muriu> |johnybot|, its a feature in windows office which you use to automatically copy staff from the intenet. As in, the moment you say copy, its already pasted in some clip board
[11:03] <Stilling> ramorek can you help me please?
[11:03] <ramorek> ohh
[11:03] <Spliffster> beryl works with gnome, kde and xfce
[11:03] <ramorek> <<ramorek is only good with networking NOT linux, lol
[11:03] <gabbarinho> oh man
[11:03] <crdlb> ramorek, what video card do you have?
[11:04] <gabbarinho> this is ridiculous!
[11:04] <|johnybot|> muriu: ubuntu should have a global clipboard
[11:04] <Spliffster> ramorek: btw, if you don't want/need xfce: sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <ramorek> ati something
[11:04] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:04] <crdlb> ramorek, lspci|grep VGA
[11:04] <ramorek> ahhh
[11:04] <crdlb> specifics are important :)
[11:04] <ramorek> how do i learn the grep and sudo and all that ??
[11:04] <muriu> |johnybot|, could you please offer more specific instructions? i just cant find it.
[11:04] <Spliffster> ramorek: please if you talk to me, can you prefix your msg with my name so i keep track of you .. otherwise its hard in this spamfest channel
[11:04] <mc44> !cli | ramorek
[11:04] <ubotu> ramorek: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:04] <|johnybot|> muriu: Select text and rightclick > copy
[11:04] <ramorek> radeon 9600
[11:05] <|johnybot|> go into document right click > paste
[11:05] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know a good how to on use dvdrip?
[11:05] <ramorek> how do i prefix ?
[11:05] <|johnybot|> momo: or Ctrl-C for copy Ctrl-V for paste
[11:05] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:05] <Spliffster> ramorek: http://ora.com has very nice books about linux and unix tools. the first thing you might want to make yourself fmmiliar with is the shell. bash usually on linux. try "man bash" in a shell. this is the bash's manual page
[11:06] <muriu> |johnybot|, you don't understand my question. That process is exactly what im trying to avoid by using the clip board thing
[11:06] <hans_> Hi! anyone have any familiarity with Ubuntu 6.06 server and can explain why it does not read ubuntu /var/spool/cron/crontabs ? hehe
[11:06] <ramorek> ok
[11:06] <crdlb> ramorek, you don't need Xgl then
[11:06] <crdlb> if you haven't installed fglrx
[11:06] <ramorek> i dont know
[11:06] <|johnybot|> muriu: you could also highlight text, go into the document and press left and right mouse button at the same time
[11:06] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:06] <crdlb> ramorek, using the default driver, beryl will just work (after installing it of course)
[11:07] <ramorek> so spliff no beryl ?
[11:07] <Spliffster> hans_: just a guess, is the cron daemon not running ?
[11:07] <ramorek> is beryl what was causing the shift+backspace restart though ?
[11:07] <crdlb> ramorek, no Xgl was
[11:07] <crdlb> and you don't need Xgl
[11:07] <ramorek> oooh so i delete it or ?
[11:08] <crdlb> if you use the default driver, not the ati proprietary driver
[11:08] <crdlb> ramorek, run: fglrxinfo
[11:08] <hans_> Spliffster: ya, it is. but it only reads from /etc/crontab and /etc/cron*
[11:08] <xima> Hello, i got a problem with linux. it stands that the package is wrong, so my system cant start update
[11:08] <Spliffster> ramorek: it depends on your needs. if you want a super stable desktop, no dont use beryl. if you want eye candy: open synaptics and install beryl. be prepared to fiddle with config files ... although it  worked here soem ppl have problems (hardware support)
[11:08] <gabbarinho> when is it expected to go "1.0"?
[11:08] <phanto1> Can somebody tacke a look at my alsa install it givs mee after the install this message : No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. I dont install it for the first time it functiond befor .
[11:08] <ramorek> ok. so why do i only have 2 workspaces ?
[11:09] <|johnybot|> momo: sorry i just read up on it
[11:09] <|johnybot|> momo: no there is no equivalent
[11:09] <Spliffster> hans_: is it supposed to read in the spool dir ? i have no 6.06 so i cannot verify the man page. paths are lised in the manpage. it prolly is a compile time configuration and if you want to change it you must recompile. or just symlink ?
[11:09] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: what is 1.0?
[11:10] <bionoid> phanto1: not sure for that error message but multimedia greatly improved for me on a number of other issues by installing the package called gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[11:10] <Spliffster> ramorek: you can configure workspaces. most linux newcomers don't even use 2 ;)
[11:10] <ramorek> spliffster :
[11:10] <momo__> #ubuntu-fr
[11:10] <Spliffster> ramorek: system > administration > somewher ;)
[11:10] <ramorek> spliffster : how do i clean up this machine? i.e get rid of crossover linux and such
[11:11] <ramorek> spliffster : is root like the c: ?
[11:11] <Gothfunc> fesity server boots with the wrong keymap.  i am in init=/bin/bash.  how do i change the keymap via console? :s  the google search is a maze
[11:11] <Gothfunc> *feisty
[11:11] <gabbarinho> oh, er
[11:11] <Spliffster> ramorek: the simplest way is open synaptic. search for the packages and remove them
[11:11] <hans_> spliffster: well, it seems to be a rather typical place to have user-specific crontabs, but maybe ubuntu has it in a slightly different path, perhaps, i will have a look. this is the default in webmin, so thats where im going from
[11:11] <gabbarinho> how can i make VLC my default player for video files?
[11:11] <|johnybot|> ramorek: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/i/tr/downloads/images/mk/10_things_linux_filesystems.jpg
[11:11] <Spliffster> hans_: i see, i'd RTFM (without trying to be rude)
[11:12] <|johnybot|> gabbarinho: are you in gnome or xfce?
[11:12] <hans_> spliffster: no problems, thanks for the tip
[11:12] <gabbarinho> still in gnome
[11:12] <Spliffster> ramorek: / is like c: in some whay, just there are no drive names in linux. you can mount any partition anywhere you like
[11:12] <TheUnknownOne> Is there a GNOME program out there that acts like GarageBand for Mac, in that you can create music just from the provided assorted loops?
[11:12] <JackPhil> Hi all, where to download a compiled  xine-fontconv?