[00:01] <zaileion> no thats not true.  the mobo has a raid hardware controller built in...  at least i think thats what is says on Asus website.
[00:01] <bekks> Yes. And it is managed by windows drivers.
[00:01] <bekks> zaileion: http://blog.miketoscano.com/?p=307
[00:02] <bekks> zaileion: http://comtech247.net/2012/11/20/how-to-set-up-software-raid-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[00:05] <zaileion> how can it be managed by a windows driver if the raid drive shows up in bios?  i am not arguing (so to speak) im asking so i can understand.
[00:06] <zaileion> also, will i be able to install windows on this raid array created by the LVM after i install ubuntu?
[00:10] <zaileion> also, will i be able to install windows on this raid array created by the LVM after i install ubuntu?
[00:16] <wishbone> hello
[00:20] <Rhinull> Hi there
[00:20] <Poonam> hi
[00:21] <Rhinull> When I run: ls -l /media/me I get the following: drwx------ 1 me me 28672 Jun 29 20:06 USBHDD
[00:21] <tking> please doesn, anyone here know how website selling socks proxy get them? it baffles me... i am sorry to ask this here, dont know the right channel, hope am not hurting anyone
[00:21] <Rhinull> However for some reason unknown to me when I try  to copy files across it says it's read only.
[00:22] <Poonam> you are not the owner of the directory/files
[00:22] <tking> please doesn, anyone here know how website selling socks proxy get them? it baffles me... i am sorry to ask this here, dont know the right channel, hope am not hurting anyone
[00:22] <Poonam> check the ownership
[00:24] <Rhinull> Poonam: The ownership's correct.
[00:25] <b0w> hello!
[00:25] <b0w> how can i changue my dns settings!
[00:27] <xangua> b0w: you can change your dns via the network icon
[00:28] <dummynet> hi all
[00:29] <dummynet> how do i send tcp request from 1 machine to another?
[00:29] <dummynet> ping6 is icmp
[00:33] <b0w> xangua, really? thats great, how can i do it?
[00:36] <GodoyX> can someone help me? i need to make my webcam work
[00:36] <GodoyX> im running ubuntu 13.04 on a MacBook Pro mid-2012
[00:36] <iFlip> Is there a way to analyze my disk and see what areas are using the most space
[00:37] <GodoyX> yes, just let me check, i did that yesterday, let me see if i can find it
[00:37] <arhasza> iFlip: there's a nice graphical tool called Disk Usage Analyzer that is installed by default :)
[00:38] <GodoyX> iFlip: yes, just click on the ubuntu icon on your top left corner and write disk
[00:40] <djapo> hello world, im new to iptables and would like to drop all through eth0 but allow localhost access ? how can this be done
[00:40] <iFlip> Thnx
[00:41] <essai12345> hello world, please tell me if you see my message, it's the first time i use an irc and i don't know if all is ok … thanks
[00:41] <punzilla> seen
[00:41] <GodoyX> essai12345: seen
[00:42] <punzilla> Hi all I'm having issues using folder sharing in my ubuntu network.
[00:42] <punzilla> I have set up folder sharing of my "video" folder in my home directory.
[00:42] <GodoyX> punzilla: what happens?
[00:43] <essai12345> thanks punzilla & GodoyX
[00:43] <GodoyX> np essai12345
[00:43] <punzilla> I then load up my android phone...
[00:43] <punzilla> and use ES file manager..
[00:43] <punzilla> conduct a search and find my samba share, I can connect, and see all the files and folders.
[00:44] <punzilla> when I attempt to open a file on my android (from my samba share) I can't actually open the files.
[00:45] <b0w> xangua, really? thats great, how can i do it?
[00:45] <punzilla> if for example I try and open a jpg file.. The picture application on my phone shows a blank screen.
[00:45] <b0w> hello, can anyone tell how can i changue my dns settings!
[00:45] <punzilla> well a blank photo, not entirely blank screen with the left and right buttons underneath.
[00:46] <xangua> b0w: clic on the network icon...edit conections
[00:46] <punzilla> quite strange.
[00:47] <punnu> p
[00:47] <punzilla> http://pastebin.com/WSVv9ah3 this is a copy of my smb.conf file.
[00:47] <b0w> xangua, yeah i saw that but where on ipv4 settings or on ipv6
[00:49] <osirisx11> hi all
[00:49] <osirisx11> is it safe to apt-get remove nvidia-*?
[00:49] <punzilla> http://pastebin.com/TsWEeJqK
[00:49] <punzilla> is my log file - I appear to be getting a permission denied error.
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> punzilla, you have to run as sudo
[00:50] <Ari-Yang> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[00:50] <GodoyX> osirisx11: dont think its a good idea
[00:51] <osirisx11> i tried to install the binary nvidia and it failed and i think there are remnants
[00:51] <GodoyX> osirisx11: actually i dont really know what will happen...
[00:52] <punzilla> I'm not running nvidia drivers, what's that got to do with samba?
[00:56] <switching> so i figured out how to get my printer running with ubuntu, and it seems to be the only way to get it working currently, but the solution isn't published.  Should I go ahead and write up documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCanonPixmaip1700WirelessInUbuntu?action=edit?
[00:56] <switching> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCanonPixmaip1700WirelessInUbuntu?action=edit *
[01:01] <Baribal> Hi. How can I tell a CD-ROM drive to spin down? It's spinning up every now and then by accident, and while I want to keep the disk in the drive, the sound of it is bothering me a bit.
[01:08] <switching> baribal i really don't know, but most optical drives i have had did the same thing when you have a cd in the drive.  Not sure why though, how bad is it?
[01:09] <switching> does anyone know if there is a documentation channel?
[01:10] <GodoyX> Baribal: i think you could disable the disk drive, but that would be akward, having to enable/disable your CD-ROM drive every time you want to use it... I think the best thing to do is take out the CD...
[01:10] <switching> godoyz: agreed
[01:13] <ericluwolf> I'm having trouble recompiling the Linux kernel on 13.04, I've downloaded the headers and the source, and am having some difficulty with the compiler flags.
[01:15] <ericluwolf> Never mind, I traced it back to a syntax error in the MAKEFILE.
[01:15] <ericluwolf> Also, does anybody know of a ppa for texlive 2012 for raring?
[01:17] <Baribal> switching, not really bad, it's just a nuisance, and I assumend that there would be a swift and easy way to deal with it for the CLI-savvy.
[01:20] <switching> baribal im not sure, sorry!
[01:21] <res> hi, is changing the permissions of the file "/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" to 777 a bad idea? I wrote an app which requires write permission for the file.
[01:21] <switching> baribal is it an old computer?
[01:21] <Baribal> switching, no, a i3-quadcore notebook.
[01:23] <res> i3 is actually dualcore
[01:23] <Baribal> res, setting world-writable is generally a bad idea, although it's hard to imagine an actual scenario in which it would become relevant. Running your app with appropriate user/group would be the more traditional way.
[01:23] <switching> hm, idk then baribal
[01:24] <Baribal> res, okay, it's two processors, two cores each. :p
[01:24] <res> yup :)
[01:26] <Baribal> res, I just checked my /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness and it is at 644 and root:root, so running your app with sudo / gksudo might be a better idea.
[01:26] <res> Baribal: my app is actually an panel indicator
[01:26] <res> a*
[01:27] <Guest18524> how can i reinstall sound?
[01:28] <Baribal> Ah, I see the problem... Well, do you really want it to *set* brightness, res?
[01:28] <switching> guest18524 you mean your speakers?
[01:28] <res> Baribal: , well, the problem is that brightness doesn't work for me in 13.04. it's a confirmed bug as someone told me yesterday. So i decided to write a small indicator
[01:29] <Guest18524> switching: im having all sorts of audio problems, and i think that would be the easiest way to fix it. Im having alsa problems and jack problems, and id like to be able to just reinstall everything
[01:29] <Baribal> If not, 644 will be just fine. If yes, the easy way really is setting it 666 and being aware that now everybody on your system can set brightness. The sophisticated way would be finding or writing a service that runs as root and allows authorized users to set brightness.
[01:30] <switching> guest18524 did it ever work? is this an ubuntu-preinstall system or did you install it?
[01:31] <Baribal> Then again, res, the scenario of someone ssh-ing into a notebook which is on somebody elses lap and messing with its brightness is something that IRL would probably only occur in university dorms and nerdy flat-sharing communities.
[01:31] <Guest18524> switching: It did. I updated from 12.04 a few weeks ago, and was trying to get Jack to work lastnight and it managed to mess up alsa as well.
[01:31] <res> Baribal: lol yea. I guess I'll move forward then
[01:31] <switching> guest18524 so it stopped working immediately on update to 13.04?
[01:32] <Guest18524> No, it worked fine until I started messing with JACK, but I dont remember what I did to mess it up.
[01:32] <switching> guest18524 ohhh sorry
[01:32] <Baribal> res, and if you'd be so kind to give me shell access, I'll go ahead messing with you just to make a point. :)
[01:32] <eazel7> woooho, each time I come there is more people here, love to see that
[01:33] <res> Baribal: as good as it sounds, i'd have to pass :P
[01:33] <switching> guest18524 did you try reinstalling jack? i actually don't know the first thing about jack
[01:33] <switching> eazel7 :D
[01:33] <Baribal> Aww, there goes my tertiary backup location... :)
[01:33] <res> tertiary...
[01:33] <Guest18524> switching: well now ALSA is messed up too
[01:34] <res> Guest18524:  did you check "alsamixer". Make sure nothing is muted
[01:36] <switching> guest18524 why not just reinstall both?
[01:37] <ciao> !list
[01:38] <ciao> !list
[01:45] <ciao> !list
[01:51] <xkernel> after I set proxy in Skype I can't login, now how to clear it from the conf file?
[01:54] <Kitt3n> xkernel, wild guess, but have you tried looking for the configuration file in ~/.config? :)
[01:56] <xkernel> Kitt3n, yes and the conf file contains something like 9\xd0\xcb\0\x1\0\0\0\0\x1.\xff\xff\xff\
[01:56] <Netpirate> hi
[01:57] <Kitt3n> xkernel, ow, that's fun.
[01:57] <Kitt3n> xkernel, back it up, and delete it?
[01:58] <Netpirate> how to take a screenshot using ubuntu
[01:58] <Netpirate> ?
[01:58] <Stanley00> Netpirate: just press the PrtScr key on your key board
[01:59] <Netpirate> thx
[01:59] <Stanley00> Netpirate: or there an *app* called Screenshot, with some more options
[02:00] <xinke2411> i used compiz  set screenshot with super+mouse
[02:24] <taotao> Hello
[02:27] <xinke2411> taotao:   are you chinese?
[02:29] <name1> hello
[02:30] <name1> I am having some internet problems with Ubuntu
[02:30] <name1> compared to windows 7, I have both installed on my computer
[02:30] <name1> when I torrent on windows 7 I get really good DL speeds, anywhere from 100kb/s to 1MB/s
[02:30] <name1> For some reason when I'm on Ubuntu the DL speeds are MUCH slower, max 10-12 kb/s
[02:31] <name1> This happened in the last couple of weeks, and I'm not sure what the cause of this malfunction is
[02:31] <name1> Can any of you offer any insight into what may be going on?
[02:31] <babinlonston> #freenode
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> name1 Have you ran one OS then the other, immediately, you are subject to the sources speeds
[02:41] <Guest14819> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my hdd, my hdd was internal and I have to change it to external, but when I boot from external hdd grub froze and only appear a message "loading grub", someone could help me?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, YOu have the external first read in the bios
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, Was it booting being troubled?
[02:42] <Guest14819> Yes the external is first
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, You say it has problems, how would making it a external to be read at much slower speeds help?
[02:45] <Guest14819> how can i change the speed of hdd?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, You can't if it is a usb plugged external it is just slower.
[02:48] <Guest14819> there's a way to see a log of boot of grub?
[02:48] <pfifo> Hello Everyone
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, IF you want help you might consider answering questions, giving details, and your final goal.
[02:52] <pfifo> Guest14819, but to answer youir question, no, grub uses disks in read only mode, so no files can get written
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, generally you would boot in text to see that, but your not booting.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> not exactly a grub log though
[02:55] <Guest14819> i'd would like to get more details of the grub freeze, but i don't now how could i get it
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, I will try once more, what made you think the HD had problems?
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> It may not be the HD is failing but a software problem that would be best addressed as an internal.
[02:58] <Guest14819> i can't boot my OS , i have no menu
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, So when the HD was still an internal you had no grub menu? Was this always?
[02:59] <Guest14819> no, when it was internal all was fine
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, Ah, I am not sure why your having problems as an external but it is problematic to run ubuntu or any OS externally in less than usb3 it is slower, you could try the shift key at powering on to see the grub menu.
[03:02] <Guest14819> keep pressing shift key?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Guest14819, In general to see grub on a singke install OS on  hd the shift key is used
[03:06] <Guest14819> I tried shift, but nothing appeared allways freeze in grub
[03:10] <SecretFire> how do I compile a .cpp in terminal?
[03:11] <pfifo> SecretFire, 'g++ myfile.cpp'
[03:11] <Guest14819> g++ file.cpp
[03:11] <SecretFire> thank you
[03:11] <pfifo> Guest14819, where does it freeze? Whats on the screen and what happens before the freeze?
[03:13] <Guest14819> 1. Appeared logo of laptop. 2. GRUB loading Welcome to GRUB!  _ 3. Froze
[03:13] <Ben64> is there a way to make meta4+tab work as alt+tab
[03:14] <pfifo> Ben64, meta4?
[03:14] <Ben64> windows key, super key, whatever you want to call it
[03:14] <pfifo> Guest14819, are you sure you have the bios booting from external USB drive?
[03:15] <Guest14819> yes
[03:15] <trism> Ben64: you can, but it is already set to switch between launchers
[03:16] <Ben64> i don't use unity
[03:17] <Ben64> it causes problems to alt+tab out of wine and so i would like to use meta4+tab to avoid the problem, instead of the more difficult task of fixing the bug in wine
[03:17] <pfifo> Ben64, Im thinking you can just edit your keymap and trick it into thinking the super key is really the alt key, Im not sure if this works for you OR works at all though
[03:17] <Ben64> well it wouldn't help the problem if it was alt, i'd just like it to have alt+tab functionality
[03:18] <pfifo> Guest14819, are you using uefi or bios?
[03:19] <pfifo> Guest14819, can you change your nick to something else
[03:26] <g_> hi
[03:27] <Guest92962> girl
[03:27] <Guest92962> ?
[03:27] <Guest92962> oh no
[03:28] <Guest92962> hello
[03:31] <pfifo> I notice that the page for casper in launchpad lists the maintainer as 'Ubuntu Developers' what exactly does this mean? When I click on the link for 'Ubuntu Developers' it takes me to a page that says Ubuntu Developers do not use launchpad, this is confusing to me.
[03:34] <acovrig> My sound dies when I launch pavucontrol, any ideas on why? (pulseaudio -k doesn't fix it)
[03:35] <meow> I need some help with 12.04
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> meow, Can you describe your problem to the channel.
[03:37] <meow> My laptop has ran 12.04 LTS since release and all of a sudden it won't boot. It keeps restarting its self continuously and the screen stays black.
[03:38] <meow> I caught it in a restart and pressed F10 continously and it's staying on, however the screen is black. I have pressed F3 about a million times as a solution to the screen being dark and a common problem with HPs
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> meow, So your sure that when you power on it restarts itself, or you just see a black screen?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> sounds like your sure just checking
[03:40] <meow> Yes, it will come on for 10-15 seconds and the lights will come on on the keyboard and the screen stays black, and it will shut off and turn back on and repeat
[03:40] <MyLordJesusChris> Earth is God's Footstool
[03:41] <MyLordJesusChris> !ops | Earth is God's Footstool
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> meow, Not sure here.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> lol
[03:41] <MyLordJesusChris> !staff | Earth is God's Footstool
[03:41] <MyLordJesusChris> wilee-nilee beware if your wicked you will be God's footstool
[03:41] <MyLordJesusChris> or in hell
[03:41] <redmetalmenace> C'est quoi fuck?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> MyLordJesusChris, I'm an agnostic nice try
[03:42] <MyLordJesusChris> agnostic == hell
[03:42] <redmetalmenace> Seriously dude, if you're trolling then you're doing a fine job
[03:42] <IdleOne> redmetalmenace: no swearing please
[03:42] <redmetalmenace> Sorry :3
[03:42] <NeonJuggalo> is this a linux room or a church room
[03:42] <redmetalmenace> ¿Por que no los dos?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu support
[03:43] <pfifo> church of ubuntu
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> !es
[03:43] <IdleOne> enough
[03:43] <IdleOne> Please get back to support
[03:43] <meow> any idea on what I should do. I got my computer to stay on by pressing F10 a few times and now it's just sitting here, on, but with a black screen?
[03:43] <acovrig> I can see sound coming into pavucontrol, but I don't hear anything
[03:43] <redmetalmenace> meow, it sounds like you have a BIOS problem…
[03:44] <meow> Could it just go bad over night?
[03:44] <Diamondcite> meow: What happens if you don't press F10?
[03:45] <meow> The screen will stay off and it will keep rebooting it's self until I unplug the power from the computer.
[03:46] <Diamondcite> meow: How far into the boot does it get? Ubuntu logo?
[03:46] <redmetalmenace> Do you get a manufacturer logo when you press the power button?
[03:46] <joobz> hey guys? any known issues with grub-install failing during install?
[03:46] <meow> nothing at all
[03:46] <joobz> using frodo
[03:47] <redmetalmenace> meow: you may have a loose monitor cable
[03:47] <Diamondcite> meow: If you turn it off, unplug power, pull out the battery, plug in power and power up, same thing?
[03:47] <yahyaa> can someone please help me with automatic num lock on login of kubuntu???
[03:47] <meow> at one point I saw the ubuntu loading page. but that was just once just for a second
[03:47] <Diamondcite> Err I kept thinking it was a laptop
[03:47] <Diamondcite> meow: laptop or desktop?
[03:47] <meow> 2 things. 1. i don't use a battery and 2. it sat here for about 10 minutes on and then it just shut off when you asked me this
[03:47] <meow> it's a laptop
[03:48] <Diamondcite> So it's a batteryless laptop?
[03:48] <meow> acting as a desktop for now
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> meow, How many time has it been unplugged while running?
[03:48] <meow> (it's just sitting on my desk)
[03:48] <Diamondcite> meow: I have a laptop like that at home, battery is flatter than a pancake.
[03:48] <redmetalmenace> Diamondcite, would resetting the CMOS battery help him any?
[03:49] <meow> I don't ever unplug it while it is running unless it freezes for more than 10 minutes.
[03:49] <joobz> meow, i joined mid discussion.. what's the prob?
[03:49] <meow> my laptop keeps restarting
[03:49] <meow> i have no screen at all
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> meow, I just ask as hard shutdowns are not good, enough will mess up the OS.
[03:49] <joobz> how do you know it is restarting without a screen?
[03:49] <Diamondcite> redmetalmenace: If it reboots in mid OS boot it's more likely an HDD error? Trying to boot from CD-ROM or USB would be the best test.
[03:49] <meow> I can hear it
[03:50] <joobz> oh
[03:50] <joobz> .. do you see BIOS?
[03:50] <pfifo> yahyaa, run this 'sudo apt-get install numlockx && echo "numlockx on" | sudo tee -a /etc/rc.local'
[03:50] <joobz> BIOS splash screen
[03:50] <redmetalmenace> So, let's try this…
[03:50] <redmetalmenace> meow
[03:50] <meow> The fans stop and all of the drives stop working and lights on the power button go off and then everything turns on
[03:50] <meow> I don't see anything
[03:50] <joobz> if you don't see BIOS
[03:50] <joobz> then your issue is OS independant
[03:50] <Seegee> Hey there guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could make this IPTables rule filter per IP: -A syn-flood -m limit --limit 10/sec --limit-burst 30 -j RETURN
[03:50] <joobz> it's a hardware problem
[03:50] <meow> Ok. Let me ask you this then...
[03:51] <Diamondcite> meow: How old is this laptop in question>
[03:51] <joobz> meow, sure
[03:51] <meow> I unplugged it and moved my house around and set it back up. I put my USB in that has Tails on it and turned it on.
[03:51] <meow> At that point it started doing this weird stuff
[03:52] <meow> I go the lap top in 2007 when I graduated HS.
[03:52] <Diamondcite> a USB with tails?
[03:52] <meow> use
[03:52] <meow> *yes
[03:52] <Diamondcite> What is that?
[03:52] <meow> tails.boum.org
[03:52] <joobz> bro, if you power on your laptop and you don't see the BIOS screen.. your hardware is the problem
[03:52] <redmetalmenace> Tails is a liveOS that is completely anonymous
[03:52] <joobz> it's not an OS based issue
[03:52] <meow> It's basically like what the TOR browser is, but a whole OS that is Linux based.
[03:52] <redmetalmenace> runs all traffic through TOR, etc
[03:53] <meow> I'm not a bro for one. And I was just asking.
[03:53] <joobz> meow, oh.. you're a chick?
[03:53] <Seegee> Hey guys, does anyone know about IPtables?
[03:53] <redmetalmenace> joobz, you're help is greatly appreciated here, but could you leave Diamondcite and I to this? Too many people trying to support 1 person
[03:54] <joobz> Seegee, sup?
[03:54] <meow> Since this is clearly NOT an OS based issue, what do I need to do to figure out what is wrong?
[03:54] <redmetalmenace> meow: first, try resetting your CMOS battery
[03:54] <joobz> redmetalmenace, sure
[03:54] <Seegee> joobz, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could make this IPTables rule filter per IP: -A syn-flood -m limit --limit 10/sec --limit-burst 30 -j RETURN
[03:54] <meow> how do I do that?
[03:54] <Seegee> joobz: I was told I need to do something with -m recent?
[03:54] <redmetalmenace> It's a relatively simple process: just leave your computer unplugged for 20 minutes
[03:54] <pfifo> Seegee, I have done limiting, not sure if it can be done on a per IP basis, but with a name like pfifo, I better find out right?
[03:55] <redmetalmenace> joobz: also, thanks :) <3
[03:55] <Seegee> pfifo, I guess so :) xD
[03:55] <meow> Really?
[03:55] <joobz> Seegee, -m recent will load the recent module of iptables
[03:55] <redmetalmenace> meow, yup
[03:55] <redmetalmenace> That's just a first step in troubleshooting
[03:55] <redmetalmenace> there's a strong chance it won't really help you, but it's always good to check
[03:55] <Seegee> joobz: What exactly is the recent module...
[03:55] <joobz> Seegee, im not sure if it is needed for syn flood detection.. let me check
[03:56] <pfifo> Seegee, does -s not work for this?
[03:56] <akurilin2> Quick question, what do I have to do, as user of the old 12.04, to get all of the updates in 12.04.2?
[03:56] <meow> Ok. I think it was unplugged when I came in here earlier because it was doing this earlier today and I let it do it for a few minutes and then unplugged it because I didn't want it just sitting here for hours rebooting it's self.
[03:56] <Seegee> Ok, because I know with this rule, it denies everyone access to the server, not just the person who is flooding it
[03:56] <redmetalmenace> Alright
[03:56] <Seegee> pfifo: what would I put after -s? Wouldnt I need a specific IP?
[03:56] <meow> I think I unplugged it like 10 hours ago and went about my business for the day
[03:56] <joobz> Seegee, it looks like recent module is not needed to detect synfloods
[03:56] <redmetalmenace> meow: then the battery should have (theoretically) reset
[03:57] <joobz> Seegee, you should be right with just using limit
[03:57]  * redmetalmenace is pondering what to do...
[03:57] <meow> I just think that I'm not 100% sure because I don't remember
[03:57] <pfifo> Seegee, -s is the source address/mask, so like to apply the rule to google dns, '-s <IP_ADDRESS>/32'
[03:57] <meow> Is it possible that the battery could have died and it needs a new one? Or is it going to be more than that
[03:57] <Seegee> pfifo, but how will I know the address of someone flooding my server before it happens?
[03:57] <redmetalmenace> CMOS battery?
[03:57] <joobz> Seegee, what happens when you use that iptables rule you pasted above?
[03:57] <meow> yes
[03:57] <redmetalmenace> Those aren't known to die…
[03:57] <redmetalmenace> :3
[03:58] <redmetalmenace> I mean, even after 4 years
[03:58] <Seegee> joobz, it works, but when the connection limit is reached, it denies everyone access, not just the attacker
[03:58] <meow> I didn't think so, in all of my years of computering, I've never heard of one dying.
[03:58] <meow> 6
[03:58] <pfifo> Seegee, if your trying to prevent a flood your approaching the problem incorrectly, limit is for QoS
[03:58] <redmetalmenace> Fair enough
[03:58] <Seegee> What does QoS stand for?
[03:58] <meow> either way this sucks because I was going to get rid of it next week to a friend
[03:58] <joobz> Seegee, ahh.. and when you say denies everyone access, do you mean just syn's or all traffic?
[03:59] <Seegee> Just syns
[03:59] <redmetalmenace> Can I ask what happened to the original battery?
[03:59] <Seegee> Which denies access to the webserver
[03:59] <pfifo> Seegee, Quality of Service, its how you split a 1000Mbps connection into 10 100Mbps connections
[03:59] <Seegee> pfifo, I am trying to prevent a layer 7 flood, not a bandwidth saturating flood like a UDP flood
[04:00] <meow> are you talking to me?
[04:00] <redmetalmenace> Yup :3 sorry :P
[04:01] <meow> oh. I was 18 and dumb and didn't take care of the battery by keeping it plugged into the wall all of the time and I think that ruined it. So I have to run it with a power source at all times now.
[04:01] <pfifo> Seegee, what exactly is happening?
[04:01] <Seegee> pfifo, I am trying to prevent an HTTP flood on my web server
[04:02] <pfifo> Seegee, so someone if just sending lots of requests but not saturating your bandwidth?
[04:02] <redmetalmenace> meow ahhhh.
[04:02] <Seegee> pfifo, they are crashing apache, my web server
[04:03] <pfifo> Seegee, is this distributed or just someone with a dhcp address?
[04:03] <meow> I was going to buy a new battery for it and a new heatsink/ fan and put it in with some new thermal paste and give it to a friend. I guess not anymore.
[04:03] <Seegee> pfifo: A layer 7 flood is an attack that targets the application layer, such as apache, ssh, etc. They aim to crash the service using an exploit or sheer overwhelming ammount
[04:03] <redmetalmenace> I can't think of anything that could work… then again, it's Sunday...
[04:03] <redmetalmenace> :P
[04:04] <Seegee> pfifo: It is not that someone is doing it now, but it is a fairly common attack, that I would like to be protected against
[04:04] <joobz> Seegee, give me a sec, just reading into this.. looks like limit module doesn't have a concept of isolating src addreses
[04:04] <joobz> .. ie, it is doing what it should be doing and blocking all SYN's
[04:04] <pfifo> Seegee, why do you want to limit them? Just '-j DROP'
[04:05] <Seegee> pfifo: Because I cannot manually do that everytime I get attacked by a 1k + botnet
[04:05] <pfifo> Seegee ohh I see, proactive security
[04:05] <Seegee> yea :)
[04:05] <Seegee> pfifo and joobz, someone said something about hashlimit if I remember correctly...
[04:05] <Ben64> get hardware ddos protection
[04:06] <joobz> Seegee, OK, you can do this just with recent module
[04:06] <joobz> limit module has no concept of isolating the SRC address, so it's useless in this case
[04:07] <joobz> try this
[04:07] <kyme> Hello, I just want to ask question. How do i fix my gwibber? My twitter feeds won't work already.
[04:07] <Seegee> thats what I though joobz
[04:08] <joobz> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW --syn -m recent --name FLOODERS --set
[04:08] <joobz> err sorry
[04:08] <joobz> do this instead
[04:08] <joobz> dont do that above :P 1 sec
[04:10] <joobz> iptables -I INPUT -m state --state NEW --syn -m recent --name FLOODERS --update --seconds 1 --hitcount 3 -j DROP
[04:10] <joobz> iptables -I INPUT -m state --state NEW --syn -m recent --name FLOODERS --set
[04:10] <kyme> :) Hello, How do I fix my gwibber for twitter :)
[04:10] <joobz> type those two commands Seegee, in that order
[04:10] <joobz> a few things to note..
[04:11] <joobz> 1. that rule will drop SYN's if it receives 3 SYN's within 1 second
[04:11] <Seegee> Hmmm... unknown option `--syn'
[04:11] <joobz> 2. the -I INPUT is used, which will mean it's right at the top of your INPUT table (this rule is not matching just web server traffic, but all input traffic)
[04:11] <joobz> Seegee, drop the --syn
[04:12] <ktopchina> hi guys
[04:12] <joobz> Seegee, it won't matter as --state NEW is used
[04:12] <Seegee> Ok
[04:12] <Seegee> I have done that...
[04:12] <joobz> try it now
[04:12] <ktopchina> i installed 12.04.2 last night and i have worked on it for about three hours
[04:12] <Seegee> So let me try this
[04:13] <ktopchina> so far i have encountered three crushes
[04:13] <joobz> Seegee, keep in mind, this is for all traffic, not just web server
[04:13] <ktopchina> is it common
[04:13] <joobz> Seegee, but if i were you (having DoS issues), i would not just limit this rule to web server only
[04:13] <joobz> Seegee, also this rule is pretty rigid.. you could play wiht --seconds and --hitcount to be a bit more generous
[04:14] <ktopchina> ????????????
[04:14] <Seegee> I know joobz, I am just scared of connection hungry protocols and falsely blocking people... I mean I do sell Game servers
[04:14] <pfifo> Seegee, joobz, can you specify '-dport 80' here?
[04:15] <joobz> you can do --dport 80
[04:15] <kyme> ktopchina - just keep update and don''t ignore those updates :)
[04:15] <Seegee> As you have it, it will apply to all ports though right?
[04:16] <joobz> right..
[04:18] <yugandhar> Hi, how do i install the fai on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:18] <holstein> yugandhar: 10.04 server?
[04:18] <yugandhar> yes
[04:18] <holstein> !info fai
[04:19] <pfifo> Seegee, set your hitcount to 4, and set your webservers to max-connections 2 (the default I think) and you likely will never block anyone who is legit. The 3rd connection will be refused and the webbrowser should hopefully wait until it closes a connection before retrying
[04:19] <holstein> yugandhar: http://fai-project.org/download/ mentions a PPA
[04:20] <holstein> yugandhar: https://launchpad.net/~fai/+archive/ppa
[04:20] <yugandhar> holstein : ok, thanks..
[04:22] <pfifo> anyway Im off to bed, good luck with your mitigation efforts.
[04:36] <PKKid> Hey Guys,  I have a weird problem that started happening maybe a week ago.  I have 2 drives one for Ubuntu (SSD) and another for Games that I called HDD.  For some reason /media/HDD is not showing me what looks like a linux root directory inside, and the what used to be under /media/HDD is now moved to /media/<username>/HDD.
[04:36] <PKKid> Does this make sense to anyone?
[04:37] <redmetalmenace> Regarding the second part
[04:37] <redmetalmenace> I've noticed 13.04 does this… it's strange as fuck
[04:37] <redmetalmenace> what's the HD formatted as?
[04:38] <PKKid> let me check, 2 sec
[04:38] <IdleOne> redmetalmenace: 2nd, no swearing please
[04:38] <redmetalmenace> Argh.
[04:38] <PKKid> It's ext4
[04:39] <PKKid> my fstab looks like this: http://pastebin.com/EuuceENH
[04:39] <PKKid> nothing seems terrible unusual
[04:40] <PKKid> and mount -l is showing me this: http://pastebin.com/v3BXu8bZ
[04:41] <PKKid> Hmmm
[04:42] <PKKid> It looks like /dev/sdc1 should be /dev/sdb1 in my fstab?
[04:46] <deezed> Does anyone know why I cant connect to a PEAP connection with my ubuntu 12.04?
[04:47] <PKKid> Yep, that was it..
[04:49] <holstein> !peap
[04:49] <holstein> that would be handy...
[04:50] <holstein> deezed: TBH, i havent heard of anyone implementing it... http://askubuntu.com/questions/285234/cannot-connect-to-wpa2-wpa-enterprise-peap-and-mschap
[04:52] <deezed> holstein: thank you!
[04:52] <foobArrr> what does the "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" Addon do and why is the remove button missing?
[04:53] <deezed> holstein: its actually my university connection, which I cant connect with Ubuntu, but with Debian its fine... strange...
[04:53] <holstein> foobArrr: it adds "ubuntu branding" to FF, AFAIK.. what "remove" button?
[04:53] <foobArrr> holstein: the remove button in the firefox addon manager
[04:53] <foobArrr> holstein: other addons have, this one doesn't
[04:54] <holstein> foobArrr: you can take a screenshot if you want.. but, it could be that that is the ubuntu repackaged version or whatever
[04:54] <holstein> foobArrr: you *are* using ubuntu.. whats the issue? you dont want the branding? you can install and mainting FF on your own. not sure why you cant remove it easily
[04:56] <foobArrr> holstein: it stands out as the only unremoveable addon, that just made me curious.
[04:57] <holstein> foobArrr: http://notepad2.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-remove-ubuntu-firefox.html suggests sudo aptitude purge ubufox xul-ext-ubufox
[04:57] <cretsiah> so whats with ubuntu12.04LTS, wifi finds network, put in wap2 code, says is connected, BUT firefox and installer says its not??????
[04:58] <holstein> probably gets added some other way, and doesnt fit the convention? not sure foobArrr
[04:59] <holstein> cretsiah: i would try pinging something... opening a terminal and running "ping google.com"
[05:01] <holstein> cretsiah: are you able to ping google?
[05:01] <cretsiah> nope unknown host ... trying to use ubuntu120.4LTS-i386
[05:02] <cretsiah> just keeps coming up with Authentication required by wireless network
[05:04] <holstein> cretsiah: remove the wireless network from the list
[05:04] <holstein> cretsiah: that is *not* as you stated... its is *not* connected
[05:11] <cretsiah> um the network manager or what ever it is, when right clicking has "disconnect" highlighted, if i click on it it says now disconnected, whilst it is supposedly connected the wifi manager is flashing as though connected.
[05:12] <holstein> cretsiah: its not connected.. please find the wifi connection in the list, remove it, and input your passcode again
[05:12] <cretsiah> it also is looping to the Authentication required screen every few minutes........ rx = 77.3kb and tx = 88.8kb
[05:14] <holstein> cretsiah: that is what i would expect for a connection that has the passcode incorrectly "inputed".. please remove the connection, and reconnect fresh
[05:14] <excesseye> ev
[05:14] <pranav> is there an easier way to switch workspace then pressing ctrl+alt+arrow-keys combinations ?
[05:15] <pranav> like probably mouse gestures or sth in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:15] <holstein> pranav: some environments use the mousewheel.. but i dont like it
[05:15] <holstein> pranav: there are pagers you can just click
[05:15] <theadmin> pranav: Uh, there's the "Workspace switcher" button
[05:15] <holstein> ^^
[05:15] <theadmin> pranav: There's also Super+S, which will display all the workspaces.
[05:16] <pranav> holstein: theadmin: i think Super+s is better when we are lazier :P thanks :)
[05:18] <pranav> now, during clippling screenshots using ctrl+shift+print-screen. is there a tool which can extract text from my clip. (say OCR) :D
[05:18] <theadmin> pranav: ...Well, yes, but if you have that text on your screen already why not just copy it
[05:19] <pranav> theadmin: not all the time they can be copied. like say images in browsers. or some tool. i guess you know a handy one :)
[05:19] <Ben64> is there a way to make super+tab work as alt+tab
[05:20] <theadmin> pranav: OCR isn't exactly perfect... But there's a few packages. Tesseract is one I've heard of a lot
[05:21] <pranav> theadmin: thanks :) will try it in the cases where i cannot copy stuffs..
[05:21] <pranav> saves time typing
[05:22] <ubuntu890> this is ubuntu room?
[05:23] <switching> yes
[05:23] <ubuntu890> i wanna secure and encrypt my internet connection...how to?   tnx
[05:23] <switching> @ubuntu890 ^
[05:23] <switching> whoops sorry
[05:24] <yugandhar> Hi,
[05:24] <yugandhar> can anyone please give me the steps for FAI installation on ubuntu
[05:25] <pranav> theadmin: wouldn't it be great if i strike the edges of my workspace twice with my cursor then it would goto the workspace belonging to that side. :D
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> is it possible to register right and left click at the same time?
[05:27] <random_seed> pranav: the enlightenment desktop does that, or rather pause at the right or left edge for how long you set it
[05:28] <theadmin> Ben64: Run CompizConfig, then find "Ubuntu Unity plugin" and disable Launcher -> Key to start application switcher, then change "Key to start the switcher" as well but I'm not sure how to have both defined for the same action.
[05:28] <Ben64> theadmin: i don't use unity
[05:28] <random_seed> and then    it changes right desktop or left desktop
[05:28] <theadmin> Ben64: Bah, should've said that first, that much is likely desktop/wm dependent
[05:28] <Ben64> using gnome-fallback
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> oy. I currently use the 3.2.0-49 kernel, 64bit. can I upgrade this and still be supported?
[05:29] <pranav> random_seed: oh.. wow! i tried it once. thnx for info.. though.. :)
[05:29] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: what version of ubuntu
[05:29] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: What's your Ubuntu version?
[05:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> precise, xubuntu
[05:29] <theadmin> !info linux-image-generic precise
[05:29] <Ben64> yeah theres extra kernels available in the repo
[05:30] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, that's the latest that is in the repos
[05:30] <Ben64> !find raring precise
[05:30] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Anything installed from outside of Ubuntu's official repositories is unsupported
[05:30] <Ben64> theadmin: since 12.04, more kernels are available for LTS
[05:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: which is why I'm asking :D
[05:30] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling
[05:30] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-raring precise
[05:31] <theadmin> Huh. Amusing.
[05:31] <theadmin> Ben64: Thanks, didn't know that
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: so apt-get install linux-image-current-raring will get me the raring line of kernels?
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> and I'll still be "legit", as they say?
[05:33] <Ben64> thats not the correct package name
[05:33] <Ben64> linux-generic-lts-raring works
[05:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: ah, thankya. now about the legitimacy for support here?
[05:33] <excesseye> t
[05:34] <Ben64> should be fine as they're in the official repositories
[05:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> excess IT.
[05:34] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, feel free to upgrade your kernel, you shouldn't really /have/ to be supported because most of the time it works out lol you could still boot into any previous kernels btw
[05:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: and obviously as the kernel gets better performance generally goes up, right?
[05:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ari-Yang: yeah, gotta love "Previous Linux Versions", right? I'm just making sure I have my ducks in a row
[05:35] <Ben64> usually
[05:35] <Ben64> not much of a difference http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_linux32_38&num=5
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, heh, I upgraded my ubuntu 12.10 kernel myself (using 3.10 drm-next)
[05:38] <theadmin> Is there a utility that'd automatically clean out all kernels? I'm currently using dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge, but that's just... weird.
[05:38] <theadmin> I wouldn't want to pass a command like that to some other user :D
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: i use ubuntu-tweak to cleanout kernels and system
[05:39] <Ben64> i think bleachbit can do that too
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit > lotuspsychje
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> theadmin, I used synapitc package manager...
[05:39] <theadmin> Ari-Yang: I did say "automatically" :P
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: tnx for tip, didnt know that package yet
[05:40] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: really handy to clean up unnecessary stuff
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> theadmin, oh my bad lol well I have seen codes like that for terminals
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: depending on your de, yes.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: ill grab it tnx :p
[05:40] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: DE? How would something like that depend on a desktop?
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> nah, bleachbit don't do it.
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: strangely enough ubuntu-tweak-tool needs unity :/
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> iirc
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: niceone, even links2 shows in my list :p
[05:42] <OerHeks> Is this still valid? see last pic > http://askubuntu.com/a/15325  "number of kernels to keep" ?
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> OerHeks: wow, that would be nice would it still be active :P
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> OerHeks, I don't see why not. probably just runs a command to uninstall kernels except for the one you're currently using and the one before that...
[05:44] <OerHeks> Ari-Yang, can't check, i am on kubuntu now, but find it interesting
[05:44] <amanSharma> after updating alternatives for java , bash prompt doesn't seem to recognize the command java. What should I do ?
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> heh, probably dead anyway
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Oerheks: the ubuntu-tweak part still works for sure, i use it on 13.04
[05:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> amanSharma: you needa restart your session, methinks. i just had the same happen to me with jruby looking for java6 after I installed 7
[05:45] <yugandhar> Hi, Please give me the steps for fai on ubuntu
[05:45] <Ari-Yang> speaking of kernels I have a question....
[05:45] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: no it doesn't work after a restart.
[05:45] <theadmin> Hm... Would apt-get autoremove get rid of old kernels? I mean, they are in theory no longer needed, and they were pulled in as a dependency...
[05:45] <theadmin> I don't have a way to test at the moment as I'm up-to-date
[05:46] <Ari-Yang> the value of line 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' in /etc/default/gurb means that it's set to boot the current kernel. lets say I want to automatically boot an old kernel without selecting it via grub menu, would I change the 0 in GRUB_DEFAULT to -1 or increase it by 1?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> amanSharma: hmm. what version of java have you installed? and from where?
[05:46] <theadmin> Ari-Yang: Eh, that's the number of the menu entry. They start with 0
[05:46] <ubuntu890> how to totally encrypt my internet connection?   link plz
[05:46] <theadmin> Ari-Yang: So, you'd increase the number
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ubuntu890: ssl, tor, and https :p
[05:47] <agora> if someone has a tiny bit of spare time and wants to look over the community documentation I just wrote, I would greatly appreciate it.  It's the first documentation page I've written: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP1700
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> but isnt having a previous kernel handy for updates going faulty
[05:47] <theadmin> ubuntu890: You can't. But here's a guide I wrote up that's close enough: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312692/howto-run-tor-and-vidalia-on-ubuntu-easily-browse-and-im-anonymously
[05:47] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: If the new one works for you, why keep the old ones?
[05:48] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: I have downloaded the tar ball from Oracle site for both versions 6 and 7. Then I extracted the it to /usr/lib/jvm/ I have done same on my netbook too and it worked there
[05:48] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: but not here?
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> amanSharma: heh, you're going about it the hard way.
[05:48] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: this computer had not previous version of java not even openjdk
[05:48] <ubuntu890> ntzrmtthihu77 , theadmain:thanks ^_^
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[05:49] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: that I can't do downloading it all over because I don';t have a good connection for that
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> amanSharma: works a charm for me, sorry to hear about that. other than that I know not what to tell you. if your gonna install it from tarball with make and whatnot I would suggest checkinstall, it will install it like a debian package so you can easily remove later, unlike stuff installed with just make, make install :P
[05:51] <amanSharma> ntzrmtthihu777: I am not building it :-P asshole
[05:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> !language | amanSharma and its not nice to cuss at folk trying to help you.
[05:52] <Ari-Yang> theadmin, ah I see.... so for e.g. http://paste.opensuse.org/56920907 on line 135 of that paste mentions kernel 3.10, the one I'm currently using, the next kernel it mentions is (line 172 of that paste) 3.5. So if I change the value of GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to 1, then it would specifically boot kernel 3.5.0-34-generic? (which is the next kernel /boot/grub/grub.cfg mentions)?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !java | amanSharma
[05:53] <theadmin> Ari-Yang: Something like that, yup. Not necessarily kernel, can be another OS too, like Windows or OS X
[05:53] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[05:53] <Ari-Yang> thanks~
[05:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. after installing linux-generic-lts-raring I get dkms build errors fro fglrx, bcmwl, and virtualbox
[05:54] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: That is not good... Those packages probably don't support this new kernel in your Ubuntu version :(
[05:55] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: I'd suggest staying with the old one then. Does it work? If so, there's no reason whatsoever to upgrade.
[05:55] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, proprietary stuff most of the time aren't compatible with mainline kernels...
[05:55] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: you need to get the headers
[05:55] <Ari-Yang> especially video drivers
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I figured as much. I just decided I would give it a shot :P
[05:55] <cordoval> i did at some point add translations for spanish, how to recover full english ubuntu?
[05:55] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, you /might/ be able to compile the wifi proprietary driver into the new kernel though.
[05:55] <caskaid> Trying to connect ubuntu 12.04 laptop to another machine desktop on local network via remote desktop and desktop sharing wont work for me, any ideas? Made sure there's no firewall, and can ssh from laptop to desktop just fine
[05:55] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-lts-raring
[05:56] <theadmin> cordoval: System Settings -> Language Support -> (drag/drop languages, make "English (Canada)" or such the first one) -> Apply Systemwide
[05:56] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ari-Yang: quite frankly I don't think i actualy *need* it, lol. I don't even use my on-board wifi card anymore, just the usb card I have :P
[05:56] <caskaid> also, connecting from machine to itself works fine using localhost
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> caskaid: maybe the ##networking guys might know aswell
[05:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ben64: already have them, it seams. and dpkg-reconfigure dkms did not seem to do much :P
[05:58] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, ah I see..... I haven't gotten to compiling my wifi proprietary driver into 3.10 yet.... so far the built in one seems to be fine though, it doesn't d/c me like it did when I was on 3.5
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> caskaid: got a router that could block?
[05:58] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, ok. just wasn't sure if it is in fact a networking issue, or client/server issue
[05:58] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, http://askubuntu.com/questions/147651/nvidia-drivers-dont-work-with-mainline-kernel
[05:58] <Ari-Yang> you might find that interesting
[05:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> heres a quick question. how can I have "source ~/.bashrc" ran after sshing into a machine?
[05:59] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: completely different issue
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> caskaid: could be both indeed
[05:59] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, running dd-wrt with firewall disabled and open ports. something I didn't think about was actuallys specifying the VNC service ports though
[05:59] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Uh, it likely will. That file is sourced every time bash starts.
[05:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ari-Yang: eh, I have an ati card. echo "$LINUS_NVIDIA_QUOTE"
[05:59] <Ari-Yang> Ben64, oh....
[05:59] <ghs> Anyone knows a good alternatives similar to wgetpaste command line for Ubuntu ?
[05:59] <theadmin> ghs: pastebinit is in the repos. Actually, I think it's even in the default install.
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> caskaid: maybe nmap your machines to see whats running where
[06:00] <cordoval> theadmin: it keeps on spanish
[06:00] <ghs> theadmin, How to install ?
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> ntzrmtthihu777, you a gamer? personally fglrx is horrible >_> it has horrible 2d acceleration
[06:00] <theadmin> ghs: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:00] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: then uh... make sure linux-headers-3.8.0-26 is installed?
[06:00] <Ari-Yang> if you don't do any gaming, you're better off with the open source drivers
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I ran ssh localhost as a test, and it was not sourced, lol. I can tell as some of my scripts could not be called without a full path, whereas normally it does.
[06:00] <theadmin> cordoval: Eh... You'd need to log out and back in to chane that language
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | caskaid
[06:00] <squaregoldfish> ntzrmtthihu777: Put this in your .profile: http://pastebin.com/NtypGHm2
[06:00] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, might not be a bad idea, was hoping it was a common thing, never tried before only used other vnc alternatives. Figured I'd give the built-in  programs a try.
[06:00] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, i know what VNC is :) thx
[06:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ari-Yang: erm, yeah I suppose you could call me a gamer, but I rather enjoy older games so its not an issue
[06:01] <caskaid> but yes... i'll check out the references there
[06:01] <ghs> theadmin, Great!
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> caskaid: you could try teamviewer just for testing out if connection between both machines work there
[06:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> squaregoldfish: no dice.
[06:02] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, that was my next step.... but I'd like it to work with a much simpler app, as I'm hoping to build in the functions
[06:02] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: TeamViewer is a bad suggestion, it does creepy magic that gets past about any hardware or software firewall
[06:02] <squaregoldfish> ntzrmtthihu777: That's all I've got. Sorry.
[06:02] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: So for testing connections... eh.
[06:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: not to mention its wine anyways, right?
[06:02] <caskaid> theadmin, known
[06:02] <fchmmr> i came here for personal guidance, already my suspicions are confirmed (that people are asleep so far). so. amazon issue (and facebook, etc). collaboration with non-free software distribution (drivers, firmware). open endorsement of non-free software like skype (which, among others, happens to be part of prism and many other scandals). casual dismissal of Secure Boot issue. Community complacency (or in some cases, ignor
[06:02] <fchmmr> ance) of these and other issue. On the part of nkowledgeable people, unwillingness to discuss or casual dismissal of the issue. I believe these should at least be considered openly. Discuss?
[06:02] <caskaid> really, they don't have a native version? wow
[06:03] <caskaid> google says they do
[06:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> fchmmr: more along the lines for an ubuntu-offtopic discussion
[06:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Halfish. The Linux version actually is different, it has a proper daemon that starts on system bootup (service) and a few features that don't work on Linux were pulled out
[06:03] <theadmin> caskaid: Well, most of their Linux version runs through Wine
[06:03] <caskaid> lotuspsychje, let me try manually forwarding ports first I suppose.
[06:03] <fchmmr> it is extremely on-topic. if something this important is put off to a sub-section, most people do not see.
[06:04] <caskaid> theadmin, i see
[06:04] <Ben64> fchmmr: actually its off topic. this is for ubuntu support only
[06:04] <logavanc> Not sure where else to go... thought I might try here.  I need to tell a module that it can work with a device that I have.  The vendor and device IDs are not in the module alias list, but it should still be using the cp210x module.  Any ideas?
[06:05] <fchmmr> indeed, i stand corrected. where do you think will be the most appropriate (and most effective) place to discuss these issues openly? (where many people can see, right at the lions heart)
[06:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> squaregoldfish: ah, placing this into ~/.bash_profile does the trick, however.
[06:05] <Ben64> fchmmr: #ubuntu-offtopic exists
[06:05] <ubuntu890> i686   is it 32 or 64 architecture?
[06:06] <theadmin> ubuntu890: 32-bit
[06:06] <ubuntu890> theadmin thanks
[06:06] <fchmmr> not many people there.
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> fchmmr: cannot be helped.
[06:07] <theadmin> fchmmr: This isn't really this channel's concern where you discuss this issue. Please stay ontopic while you're here. Although I agree the problem is serious, it's still offtopic here.
[06:07] <fchmmr> my only wish is that ubuntu users start to consider these issue more. everywhere i go, i see only positive things, its like people are asleep. forums, videos, this channel, etc. what is being discussed, public attitudes, i believe its healthy to talk about them.
[06:07] <NonaSuomi> I think I may have asked already, but quick question: I'm formatting a drive freshly, with the intent of hosing media for a home server. What filesystem is ideal for this?
[06:08] <NonaSuomi> *hosting
[06:08] <fchmmr> i also would like cannonical to reconsider their collective stance on these issues
[06:08] <logavanc> NonaSuomi, I use ext4... nice and stable.
[06:08] <caskaid> NonaSuomi, personally I have 8TB on ext4 without issue
[06:09] <NonaSuomi> That's what I was thinking, but is there any reason Butter isn't preferable?
[06:09] <caskaid> NonaSuomi, though zfs can be fun and challenging. FreeNAS uses it by default..
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> can lost+found be deleted safely on ext4?
[06:09] <theadmin> NonaSuomi: The fact that it's highly experimental and there's no stable release?
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> lotuspsychje: should not.
[06:09] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: It can't be at all, it's part of the filesystem
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> lotuspsychje: its there for a reason.
[06:09] <NonaSuomi> Okay, sounds like ext4 then. Stable and simple, right. Thanks!
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: actually it can, but it comes back like immediatly. I did it back before I knew beter.
[06:10] <agora> if anyone has a canon ip1700 i just wrote up a howto on the community documentation wiki for it :)
[06:10] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Sorta what I meant
[06:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> very nice.... this worked well for me :D
[06:11] <nyRednek> ok, should i make a live image, with a casper-rw partition on the usb chip, could i encrypt said partition and allow access to it with a password on boot?
[06:11] <Rallias> Is there a way to define an onfirstboot parameter in my preseed.cfg file?
[06:12] <logavanc> Do can anyone even give me a keyword to google for forcing a usb device to use a certain module?
[06:12] <Rallias> logavanc, Deny the unwanted module via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[06:13] <logavanc> Rallias, the problem is that the vendor and device ids are not in the modules alias list.
[06:13] <fchmmr> theadmin: agreeing is easy to do. the swindler agrees that his actions are wrong, but he does them anyway. what i feel is that many people now are starting to accept these issues as non-issues, it becomes normal. people start to think only for themselves and the problem expands. an IRC channel is probably ineffective anyway, there are less than 1000 people here.
[06:13] <fchmmr> i will find another way
[06:13] <theadmin> fchmmr: Good luck.
[06:13] <fchmmr> luck is irrelevant
[06:13] <Rallias> nyRednek, Do you have an existing linux machine and a scratch space that exceeds in size your flash drive?
[06:14] <OerHeks> fchmmr, less than 1000 here? really?
[06:14] <nyRednek> Rallias, yes
[06:14] <Rallias> *cracks knuckles* Are you prepared to spend about 2 1/2 hours working with it?
[06:14] <fchmmr> OerHeks: 1490 to be precise
[06:15] <nyRednek> Rallias, definitely
[06:15] <fchmmr> slightly more than 1000 then,
[06:15] <nyRednek> Rallias, i'm running debootstrap to start building custom livefs as we speak
[06:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> oy, what was the apt command to show a packages deps again?
[06:16] <caskaid> man apt ;)
[06:16] <Rallias> nyRednek, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto <- That's your best bet. Replace your /dev/hd* with your USB drive's devnod.
[06:16] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: apt-cache depends package_name
[06:17] <Rallias> nyRednek, I'd be able to help, but right now I'm doing maintenence on a few too many servers.
[06:17] <nyRednek> Rallias, understood
[06:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, seems I was wrongish. ubuntu-tweak needs compiz-core, which is needed by unity.
[06:18] <Rallias> nyRednek, If you need further help, I've done this kind of thing a couple times, feel free to email me.
[06:18] <Rallias><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> and as I have no use for compiz I'd rather not install it, even if its pretty useful :P
[06:18] <theadmin> Rallias: Posting e-mail in a channel like this is of bad idea...
[06:19] <wilee-nilee>  let the spam begin
[06:19] <Rallias> theadmin, Posting a publicly announced email in a publicly logged channel is a bad idea?
[06:19] <Rallias> When since?
[06:19] <nyRednek> Rallias, you know, this would be easier if truecrypt would install its bootloader on a flash drive without windows(will it?)
[06:20] <Rallias> nyRednek, The problem is, as far as I'm aware, truecrypt cannot boot linux.
[06:20] <nyRednek> Rallias, if it can load syslinux, that'd be fine with me
[06:20] <nyRednek> Rallias, or does it even have problems there?
[06:21] <Rallias> nyRednek, AFAIK, it's designed to load ntldr with a memdisk. I don't think it's possible.
[06:21] <Rallias> At least not with a major kernel patch that'll take a few years to push through.
[06:21] <nyRednek> Rallias, meh, thanks, though...i'll do it with full disk encryption, then
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> welp, I've gotten and given info needed tonite, all is well with the world. ganite all
[06:25] <nyRednek> Rallias, the problem with the fulldisk encryption would be the fstab
[06:26] <ak5> hi! I switched to another terminal emulator, called termite. Now, when I ssh into my headless ubuntu boxes, I tmux complains about  missing/unsuitable terminal: xterm-termite
[06:26] <nyRednek> Rallias, if i'm using a usb chip, the fstab may not fit every machine i plug it into
[06:26] <Rallias> nyRednek, If that's too big a problem, just load your usb disk in qemu as a raw image and use the ubuntu alternate install cd.
[06:26] <Random832> ak5: just set TERM=xterm before running tmux
[06:27] <Random832> tmux isn't willing to make assumptions about terminfo entries it can't find, unlike most programs
[06:27] <theadmin> Rallias: That sadly fails, the text installer hangs in Qemu for god knows what reasons
[06:27] <Random832> if you really care about it, figure out why its terminfo entry didn't get installed
[06:27] <Rallias> So that's why I've got all these bloody support tickets complaining about the ubuntu iso's.
[06:27] <Random832> ak5: where did you get this 'termite' program? I don't see it in apt-cache search
[06:28] <ak5> Random832: well, I don't :P I am just going to add that to .bash_profile or something
[06:28] <ak5> Random832: https://github.com/thestinger/termite
[06:28] <draconus2> would you have an idea how to convert a png image from 27x27 pixels to 16x16 pixels using only console?
[06:29] <theadmin> draconus2: mogrify -resize 16x16\! myfile.png
[06:29] <ak5> Random832: its a very nice utf8 terminal with colors that replaces urxvt for example
[06:29] <Random832> ak5: see the .terminfo file?
[06:29] <draconus2> theadmin i love you
[06:29] <Random832> ak5: you need to run tic on that.
[06:29] <ak5> Random832: I see
[06:29] <draconus2> theadmin running to test that now :)
[06:30] <Random832> that's the real solution; I just didn't know what to point out to you until I saw the list of files
[06:30] <theadmin> draconus2: (mogrify is part of imagemagick)
[06:30] <Random832> then you won't have to set TERM
[06:30] <Random832> theadmin: what's the difference between mogrify and convert?
[06:30] <draconus2> theadmin thank you again... was just going to tell you that i couldn't find mogrify package ;)
[06:31]  * Random832 looks at the manpage
[06:31] <Random832> oh, mogrify throws away the source image
[06:31] <draconus2> Random832 so there is convert also?
[06:31] <theadmin> Random832: convert outputs to a different file, mogrify modifies the original one (making it easier to process multiple images: mogrify -resize 16x16\! *.png)
[06:31] <draconus2> theadmin that's what i need in fact... like 400 files...
[06:31] <Random832> draconus2: convert is part of imagemagick, and I hadn't heard of mogrify before today
[06:31] <draconus2> was going to use ms paint for that... and convert one by one
[06:32] <Random832> ah, so it's for people who don't know how to write for loops
[06:32] <CHITO> que tal alguien me puede decir donde encuentro cyberlinux 1.3
[06:32] <Random832> oh well, draconus2: make sure you back up your original files
[06:32] <draconus2> Random832 mate, for the fun of it i might use convert and write a nice loop :)
[06:32] <dell> i have linux mint installed in my lappy with windows 7 as a dual booting. i want to replace my linux with ubuntu. what to do for that? also i have some files in linux mint. can it will be transferable?
[06:34] <CHITO> quiero instalar cyberlinux 1.3 pero no lo he encontrado alguien que me lo pase
[06:34] <dell> anyone please help.
[06:35] <draconus> theadmin would you have an idea if there is anything in mogrify that i could switch on to make the conversion better? those are icons with quite small details
[06:35] <draconus> theadmin or isn't there much to do about that?
[06:36] <Random832> draconus2: try -resample instead of -resize
[06:36] <CHITO> necesito cyberlinux 1.3
[06:36] <draconus> i mean different scaling algo or something
[06:36] <draconus> Random832 hm that could do it
[06:36] <theadmin> draconus2: Well, I'm not that familiar with ImageMagick sadly.
[06:36] <Random832> draconus: or -adaptive-resize
[06:36] <Equinox3> dell:  may be you can backup your profile. and maybe backup your packages list then reinstall it back when you install ubuntu
[06:37] <draconus> many thanks theadmin and Random832 - you saved me several hours of time...
[06:37] <Random832> or -sample
[06:37] <Random832> or -scale
[06:37] <Random832> i'm not sure if all these do what you want (some might change dpi instead), but it's worth trying
[06:38] <nyRednek> Rallias, yeah, it fails...
[06:38] <draconus> Random832 yup, i will do all of those and compare in production env
[06:39] <nyRednek> wait, what?
[06:40] <NonaS> Banned? The hell?
[06:40] <agora> yay i just finished writing my declaration of attribution unnecessity additional permissions document for CC BY SA licenses :)
[06:40] <agora> nonas banned from where?
[06:40] <agora> here?
[06:41] <NonaS> Yeah, nick NonaSuomi. Server says I can't chance nick back over while I'm banned in here.
[06:41] <_xeno_> when fixing a bug is it better to create a patch or just push my branch and propose a merge?
[06:41] <agora> nonas weird. did it say why?
[06:42] <nyRednek> NonaS, well, it just quieted everyone not authed with nickserv
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> NonaS, Ask in #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[06:42] <nyRednek> and you aren't authed with nickserv
[06:42] <NonaS> No. I ping timeout'ed a few minutes ago, then quit and join back, ghosted my old nick, now this.
[06:43] <NonaSuomi> There. Huh.
[06:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:43] <nyRednek> and we have a netsplit
[06:44] <agora> lol
[06:44] <agora> nonasuomi huh.
[06:44] <CHITO> necesito cyberlinux 1.3 para pc antigua poca ram
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> NonaSuomi, This nick was probably in the server and on the channel.
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> not banned just still on.
[06:44] <agora> CHITO que es cyberlinux?
[06:44] <NonaSuomi> wilee-nilee: No, I ghosted it.
[06:45] <NonaSuomi> The exact message from the server was **435 NonaSuomi #ubuntu Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[06:45] <agora> CHITO este es el canal para Ubuntu
[06:45] <agora> is non-english speaking permitted here?
[06:45] <CHITO> es un sistema operativo dedicado a los cafe internet
[06:45] <Ben64> no, english only. many languages have their own channel
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> NonaSuomi, The servers have had problems, I could not get cloaked yesterday for awile.
[06:46] <agora> ben64 ok i will tell him to move to pm in spanish and then that's it
[06:46] <CHITO> esta creado en ubuntu
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> !es
[06:46] <agora> CHITO no podemos hablar en espanol aqui, necesitamos hablar en otro lugar
[06:46] <agora> CHITO como #ubuntu-es
[06:46] <Ben64> CHITO: well we don't support "cyberlinux"
[06:46] <Ben64> ubuntu only
[06:46] <agora> that too
[06:47] <CHITO> es ubuntu 10.04 modificado
[06:47] <trap24> i have ubuntu .iso when i mount it in win8 and try to run the wubi installter
[06:47] <trap24> to install ubuntu as a file within C drive
[06:47] <Ben64> CHITO: no importa, y 10.04 ya no se admite en el escritorio de todos modos
[06:47] <agora> CHITO en #ubuntu-es por favor.  este canal solo es para ingles
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> trap24, Wubi is not on the iso you have to use the wubi downloader
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> trap24, Wont run in W8.
[06:48] <CHITO> gracias
[06:48] <trap24> it starts to download a bi wubi-amd64.tar.xz
[06:48] <agora> ben64 CHITO si, eso tambien
[06:48] <trap24> is it normal
[06:48] <trap24> arent the installer files already in the iso
[06:48] <trap24> ?
[06:48] <wilee-nilee> trap24, Wubi wont run in W8 if you uefi at the least.
[06:49] <trap24> wilee-nilee: huh.. yes i have uefi
[06:49] <trap24> i coun't install ubuntu
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> trap24, Not anymore, and wubi wont run in W8.
[06:49] <Ben64> and wubi is just for testing, and might be going away soon.
[06:49] <agora> i used to use wubi
[06:49]  * agora shudders
[06:49] <agora> :P
[06:50] <trap24> my system has uefi, and win8 and secure boot enabled
[06:50] <trap24> i disabled the secure boot, but flash wont boot
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> trap24, virtual or dual boot are your choice.
[06:50] <trap24> wilee-nilee: i think i am done trying the dual boot option as well
[06:51] <Ben64> maybe you didn't make the flash drive correctly then?
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> trap24, check out this thread on uefi ubuntu installs. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[06:52] <chunkyhead> what is the shortcut to lock my account so it asks me password?
[06:52] <agora> control alt l
[06:52] <chunkyhead> agora: thanks!
[06:52] <agora> chunkyhead sure thing! :)
[06:54] <_xeno_> hey all, iam new to bug fixing. could someone help me with question. noting technical
[06:54] <agora> _xeno_ just ask
[06:54] <agora> _xeno_ don't ask to ask :)
[06:55] <ak5> Random832: I still have an issue in byobu, the default statusbar on the bottom left, I have a 
[06:55] <_xeno_> ok, so I fixed a bitesize bug. Now should I push the branch or should I create a patch? What is the difference between both method
[06:55] <Campfire> light wieght ubuntu i need
[06:56] <agora> campfire you mean a lightweight version?
[06:56] <KurtKraut> Campfire, seek for Lubuntu.
[06:56] <Campfire> idia for
[06:56] <Campfire> ty
[06:56] <agora> campfire yes, lubuntu or xubuntu
[06:56] <Campfire> is server adition better then others
[06:57] <agora> campfire server edition is for servers
[06:57] <Campfire> ty
[06:57] <theadmin> Campfire: The server version of Ubuntu doesn't come with a graphical interface, for one.
[06:57] <agora> ^
[06:57] <nbags> theadmin: does it still run a different kernel?
[06:57] <theadmin> Campfire: It also comes with an installer that helps to optimize it better to host various kind of servers...
[06:58] <theadmin> nbags: I think so, but I'm not 100% sure.
[06:58] <Campfire> ty
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> Campfire: also better how? like agora said server edition is for servers, though i have used it as a base for a desktop though
[06:58] <ak5> theadmin: does it?
[06:59] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Well, server editions of Windows are sometimes considered "better" because they come with nicer admin tools and less silly restrictions
[06:59] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: That kind of "better", I uess.
[06:59] <Campfire> l
[06:59] <nbags> hmmm ... i have some ubuntu 6.06 servers i need to do something with soon. stupid company decided they didnt need a sysadmin. what are my options? will they upgrade cleanly? they are VMs so i can snapshot them first
[06:59] <theadmin> but no, Ubuntu doesn't do that stuff
[06:59] <evan_> hellllllllo
[06:59] <agora> evan_ hi
[06:59] <theadmin> nbags: Something that old can't upgrade any longer... Sadly. Your only option is a reinstall here :(
[06:59] <ikonia> evan_: or "hello" as normal people say
[06:59] <evan_> i have question how could i change port number of serial h/w
[06:59] <Random832> ak5: no idea - probably not everything is in agreement on whether UTF8 is in use
[07:00] <agora> lol ikonia
[07:00] <nbags> theadmin: does anyone have the apt repos still online? i would like to try an upgrade even if its 'unsupported'
[07:00] <_xeno_> agora: I fixed a bitesize bug. Now should I push the branch or should I create a patch? What is the difference between both method?
[07:00] <Ben64> nbags: much better to install fresh
[07:00] <boy32> there are girls to speak
[07:00] <agora> agora idk i don't bugfix lol
[07:01] <agora> boy32 this is an ubuntu support channel
[07:01] <_xeno_> ok :) lol
[07:01] <Random832> ak5: or, are you sure that's not intentional? it shows up as an ubuntu logo on my screen
[07:01] <agora> _xeno_ sorry, when i said to just ask i didn't mean i would know the answer
[07:01] <ak5> Ohhh, ok
[07:01] <Campfire> whats best way to format hard drive
[07:01] <Ben64> Campfire: gparted
[07:01] <agora> _xeno_ i just thought someone would
[07:01] <ak5> Random832: I am on a different flavor of linux, seems like I don't have the extended utf8 that ubuntu has
[07:01] <agora> you might try the development channel if there is one, dunno what it is tho
[07:02] <Campfire> ty 64
[07:02] <Random832> I don't know what the default byobu theme is supposed to look like
[07:02] <theadmin> nbags: There's old-releases.ubuntu.com but I have no idea if they still mantain repos for 6.06
[07:02] <ak5> Random832: nah, you helped me. I don't have the ubuntu logo to utf8 mapping
[07:02] <_xeno_> ubuntu bugs channel is dead.. no response there
[07:02] <agora> dang.
[07:02] <agora> stick around, you should be able to get help here
[07:02] <Campfire> if there is a boot record still on drive will it erase
[07:02] <agora> if not then there's the forums
[07:03] <Campfire> say a windows
[07:03] <_xeno_> yea.. thanks anyway
[07:03] <Campfire> or mircrosoft
[07:03] <draconus> theadmin, Random832: this is strange but mogrify doesn't downscale 27x27 to 16x16 as well as ms paint does... i tried several options and i either get blurred or simply less readible icon
[07:03] <Random832> ak5: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man1/byobu.1.html search this for "logo"
[07:03] <Ben64> Campfire: with gparted you can format any drive you want, not sure what you mean
[07:03] <theadmin> draconus: Huh...
[07:03] <draconus> theadmin seriously
[07:04] <theadmin> draconus: Well, again, I'm not much familiar with it sadly
[07:04] <Random832> draconus: no idea what algorithm ms paint uses. you tried all the options i mentioned?
[07:04] <draconus> i tried the exact same image and ms simply does it better, wondering about the algo
[07:04] <nbags> theadmin: ok, ill look into that. i cant jump ahead though right? i need to apt-get dist-update LTS -> LTS -> LTS ... ?
[07:04] <draconus> Random832 yup
[07:04] <theadmin> nbags: Yeah.
[07:04] <draconus> Random832 one of those is close but still not the same as in ms paint :)
[07:04] <theadmin> nbags: Especially with a release *that* old.
[07:05] <Ben64> nbags: just install 12.04 or something supported fresh. upgrades take a long time and stuff will surely break from 6.06
[07:05] <nbags> theadmin: thanks. i will snapshot and give the upgrade a go. i've usually been fairly successful in untangling any apt problems with debian. hopefully ubuntu is more or less the same
[07:06] <nbags> Ben64: i dont mind stuff breaking. it should still be easier than a fresh install in this case
[07:06] <ikonia> Ben64: 6.06 is not compatible upgrade to 10.04 I think, it breaks before that
[07:06] <Random832> ak5: see here for what it's meant to look like https://plus.google.com/photos/109146476137225155095/albums/5881951730018292593?banner=pwa
[07:06] <nbags> yeah it'll be 8.something right?
[07:06] <Ben64> nbags: no, it would not be easier to upgrade 6.06 to 12.04
[07:07] <theadmin> nbags: How is this easier? You can copy configs and data over (for the most part, beware for config format changes)
[07:08] <nbags> if it proves too hard i will roll back the snapshot and reinstall from scratch. but i dont really want to mess with their configs at all if i can get away with it. their configurations arent documented
[07:09] <theadmin> Ben64: Well, I do know a person who's sucessfuly upgraded from 4.something all the way to 13.04, but that was a desktop release and upgrades were done on time
[07:10] <nekwebdev> Hello everyone, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 as a webserver. My users each have their sites in their home folders, and are all part of the www-data group so that they can play nice with apache. Is my only option to restrict them to their home dir in SSH using chroot?
[07:10] <nbags> server release should be easier. a lot less packages to break. but as long as the repos are still online im going to give it a shot
[07:10] <chunkyhead> guys whenever i run sudo apt-get update i get the following errors. any help with that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5851883/
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, Open the sources list and comment out the cd's and make sure the PPA even exists.
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> PPA's
[07:12] <chunkyhead> locate sources.list
[07:12] <chunkyhead> sry
[07:12] <theadmin> chunkyhead: It's of in /etc/apt/
[07:12] <chunkyhead> theadmin: yeah got it :)
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, the PPA's may not have raring releases.
[07:13] <nekwebdev> chroot is making my head hurt :(
[07:14] <chunkyhead> am i doing it right? wilee-nilee theadmin http://screencloud.net/v/t1pL
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, needs a sudo
[07:15] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: no no my bad it's /etc/apt/ on /etc/app
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> hehapt not app
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> missed that sorry
[07:15] <chunkyhead> # is commenting right? wilee-nilee btw this is which language? shell?
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[07:16] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: No real language, just a random format Debian made up
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, The PPA's may be in sources.list.d
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, Thanks I have no idea there I barely speak my native english
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, comment out is # is what I Meant
[07:18] <alocer> hello guys . im on mint maya ( ubuntu 12.04) using realtek HDA Intel sound card with ALC275 chipset and snd_hda_intel module. when my sound is on 50% it seems i am on 0% no sound at all. is there anything to do in ~/.pulse/daemon.conf or default.pa ? i dont know? i appreciate any help . thanks
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> alocer, You will have to ask in a mint channel.
[07:19] <alocer> i had asked there now i giving here a try . sry to bother
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> alocer, No bother just not supported here. ;)
[07:19] <ak5> can someone repaste the link Random832 sent me above?
[07:19] <alocer> ok wilee-nilee ;)
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> https://plus.google.com/photos/109146476137225155095/albums/5881951730018292593?banner=pwa
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> ak5, ^^^^^^
[07:20] <ak5> wilee-nilee: ty
[07:20] <djono> hey all ubuntu now randmonly shutts down on me laptop. asus x201e 4gb ram
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> djono: info on what happens prior would be useful so we can establish a pattern
[07:21] <djono> im just browsing the net using chrome and boom it shuts down
[07:21] <mmxxyy> Hi. Have to compile an 2.6.9 kernel for MIPSEL. Unfortunately the 'make menuconfig' do not work as there are some issues with libncurse (even if i had installed them). The 'make config' works, but it is toooo long. How can i add modules that i want to kernel to compile them? I've tried to manually add to '.config' but it doesn't accept
[07:22] <djono> it can happen anytime while watching video or chatting in irc etc...
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> djono: even near full battery?
[07:23] <nbags> mmxxyy: do u have an existing configuration you are working from? or taking defaults?
[07:23] <djono> yep even full battery. half battery. quarter battery. its so random
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> djono: heat maybe?
[07:24] <mmxxyy> nbags> i have an 'default' configuration provided for that mipsel chip. it compiles fine, but i want to add some additional modules to kernel
[07:24] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: is it safe to delete ppas in /etc/apt/source.list.d/ ?
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | chunkyhead
[07:25] <djono> i thought that as well but i had it under a fan and it happens as well.
[07:25] <nbags> mmxxyy: u want to put the .config in /usr/src/linux (or whereever). then run 'make oldconfig', you can keep just pressing enter for every question if you want defaults. then edit the .config by hand or with menuconfig
[07:25] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: what exactly is there in sources.list.d?
[07:25] <mmxxyy> nbags> i've tried to add some config lines to '.config', but on the 'make' step it just reuse the old config...
[07:26] <mmxxyy> nbags> for unknown reason the 'make menuconfig' do not work..
[07:26] <mmxxyy> nbags> do you want me to show you the 'menuconfig' error?
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, It is just another source place generally 3rd parties.
[07:26] <nbags> mmxxyy: that shouldn't matter. but just adding lines may not work. you may also have to remove some lines
[07:26] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: so i'm guessing nothing's gonna happen if i del them right? coz i just did and apt-get update runs fine
[07:27] <mmxxyy> nbags> what do you advice?
[07:27] <nbags> mmxxyy:  its been years since i built my own kernels though
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, Purging them would probably be best.
[07:27] <chunkyhead> i dont think i can purge after i rm a file? :P now can i? wilee-nilee
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, No, you are probably fine since they error out.
[07:28] <nbags> mmxxyy: i would put your .config, from the vendor or whatever into the source tree. then do make oldconfig, and take all defaults. then open the .config and search for the config options you want to change and change them. dont just add stuff at the start or the end of the .config
[07:28] <nbags> open .config in a text editor i mean
[07:29] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: i like how subtle the probably sounds. ;)
[07:29] <mmxxyy> i'll try
[07:29] <mmxxyy> thanks
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, Purge is used most often when people add a ppa and it borks their setup, the purge removes all the updates from the ppa and sets it stock.
[07:30] <chunkyhead> alright thanks wilee-nilee
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, I assume nothing loaded from them, and you have no complaints associated so I use probably. ;)
[07:32] <chunkyhead> PS: to every terminal lover, use irssi as your irc client. epic shit.
[07:34] <chunkyhead> btw does anyone know what does the package awesome do?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: the wm?
[07:34] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: what exactly does it do?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: it's a tiling window manager
[07:34] <Flannel> chunkyhead: `apt-cache show awesome` will give you the full description
[07:35] <chunkyhead> i tried apt-cache search couldn't understand much
[07:35] <chunkyhead> Flannel: ^ aeon-ltd ^ let me try downloading
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, http://keramida.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/awesome-wm-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[07:37] <chunkyhead> do you guys know any video showing a demo? i'm trying to search w/o any luck
[07:37] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: learn the keybindings before using it
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> chunkyhead: imagine this, a regular wm YOU control the windows drag/min/max in a tiling the computer manages all windows for you
[07:38] <chunkyhead> aeon-ltd: wanna see a demo first, will let you know when i install :)
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, here is youtube set. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=awesome+wm&oq=awesome+wm&gs_l=youtube.3...1248.5030.0.52<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.
[07:39] <chunkyhead> for some reason none of my browsers are ready to open youtube. alright ping youtube.com works just fine :'(
[07:39] <jeetpei> Hello all
[07:39] <jeetpei> i want to write a code
[07:39] <jeetpei> which grep PID from logs and kill pid
[07:40] <jeetpei> i am doing this remotly
[07:40] <chunkyhead> jeetpei: use top!
[07:40] <chunkyhead> jeetpei: apt-cache search top
[07:40] <chunkyhead> try that ^
[07:41] <nyRednek> can the ubuntu installer isos mount luks-encrypted partitions?
[07:41] <jeetpei> ok let me check
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> i recommend htop, it's a little cleaner
[07:42] <jeetpei> sorry chunkyhead i am still confused
[07:42] <jeetpei> here is do
[07:42] <jeetpei> grep PID /log_file | tail -1 | awk '{print $8}' which gives me PID
[07:42] <jeetpei> i can use kill -9 with it
[07:43] <jeetpei> but when i do it remotly i see error non zero status
[07:44] <jeetpei> anybody there ?
[07:45] <jeetpei> chunkyhead : did you see my last messages ?
[07:45] <gregor3005> hi, i try to install freecad from sources and it need the variable PYTHON_LIBRARIES set but it is empty, python is installed
[07:45] <r0tha_> gregor3005: try specifying where python is installed
[07:45] <r0tha_> which python
[07:46] <r0tha_> $ which python
[07:46] <gregor3005> r0tha_: /usr/bin/python
[07:47] <glda19> hi
[07:47] <chunkyhead> jeetpei: top will give you all running processes pid etc. i havent used htop but i think it is cleaner (like aeon said)
[07:47] <r0tha_> gregor3005: this is just a suggestion.....try specifying that directory for freecad
[07:47] <chunkyhead> jeetpei: did you make a ssh connection first?
[07:47] <jeetpei> yes
[07:47] <jeetpei> i have password login
[07:48] <jeetpei> passwordless*
[07:48] <gregor3005> r0tha_: i try also the following package: libpython-all-dev
[07:48] <chunkyhead> jeetpei: how do u get root access then?
[07:49] <jeetpei> i seted up root@ip passwordless login
[07:49] <jeetpei> so i can run command with root
[07:49] <chunkyhead> i've never tried to keep anything password less. not that fear, but i guess coz i've never really had the option to go passwordless O.o things have been quite easy. try keeping a certain password. sometimes you can't gain access to root without password.
[07:51] <jeetpei> i can run other commands .. like copy file touch file etc etc
[07:52] <gregor3005> r0tha_: libpython-all-dev was the right package
[07:52] <r0tha_> gregor3005: cool, glad you got it figured out
[07:57] <mikubuntu> having trouble installing driver for broadcom 'firmware-b43-installer_015-14_all.deb' on a lubuntu 13.04 laptop, i wonder if anyone could help me. i have the file on a cd, and trying to install, but i got an error.
[07:57] <mikubuntu> errors were encountered: dpkg split: error: error reading firmware-b43 ....deb Input/Output error
[07:58] <jeetpei> chunkyhead : ok i have another idea .. i have four process running .. which are depended to each other .. but i need to kill only last process not all
[07:59] <jeetpei> is it possible?
[08:01] <glda19> can some help me with uefi motherboard and grub
[08:03] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   <----- glda19
[08:04] <llutz> jeetpei: pgrep/pkill -n   might help (man pkill)
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> glda19, here is a thread as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:05] <glda19> thanks.
[08:06] <mikubuntu> the error i'm getting from gdebi now is :: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: b43-fwcutter (>= 1:015-14)
[08:07] <glda19> But i have a pc with efi motherbord with a ssd 128 GB and a HD 2 TB  and win7 installed on the ssd and the users on the 2TB
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> ok
[08:09] <glda19> And now i add a 160 GB hd and there i installed ubuntu 12.10. It goes well but after install i don't see the grub. So i have to go to the efi bios and change the boot  from mij ssd to the HD160GB WHY ?
[08:10] <aeon-ltd> because grub is on the 160gb hdd?
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> glda19: ^
[08:12] <glda19> aeon-ltd: what ?
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> because grub is on the 160gb hdd
[08:12] <glda19> and why not on the ssd
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> because thats where you installed it
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> if you didn't separate /boot then /boot is part of / which contains everything from the ubuntu install
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> last time i used a installer they weren;t that smart
[08:14] <glda19> how can you saparate the boot
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> no idea on how to do it post install, i've not heard many cases like that either
[08:15] <glda19> thx aeon-ltd
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> sorry i couldn't help more
[08:18] <glda19> aeon-ltd you don't have to say sorry you could't  not now every thing
[08:23] <ni291187> hi, how can I close an x window program if its frozen in full screen?
[08:23] <theadmin> ni291187: Easiest way, Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in and "killall programname" from there
[08:23] <theadmin> ni291187: Then Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch back to the desktop
[08:25] <ni291187> that's theadmin
[08:25] <ni291187> err thanks
[08:25] <ni291187> is there a way i can look up the name if all the programs running on the other screen?
[08:25] <Homie20006> Has anyone here have an idea how to bridge a network card with a /32 ip address -.-
[08:26] <theadmin> ni291187: pgrep '.*' -u $USER -l | less # This will list all processes that are currently running as your user. Use arrows to scroll, q to exit.
[08:27] <theadmin> It's acting a bit oddly here, doesn't list the full name for some reason... hm.
[08:27] <caosz> aha,what is this
[08:28] <GBS-NET> i hav backtrack 5 running on Live CD...but i can install it on my pc.it gives me error...any idea hw i sld install it?pls help.
[08:28] <theadmin> ni291187: Eh, dammit -- sudo apt-get install htop and run htop, it's a command-line task manager
[08:28] <theadmin> GBS-NET: Backtrack is not supported.
[08:28] <lolcakes> theadmin, oh thanks for  Ctrl-Alt-F2 tip, I never knew that one
[08:28] <llutz> helmut_: pgrep ... -lf
[08:28] <llutz> theadmin: ^^
[08:28] <theadmin> llutz: Ah, thanks.
[08:29] <theadmin> lolcakes: Well, technically, Ctrl-Alt-F1 - Ctrl-Alt-F6 switch to various consoles, Ctrl-Alt-F7 usually switches to the desktop
[08:29] <GBS-NET> theadmin....u mean not supported by my pc?
[08:30] <llutz> !backtrack | GBS-NET
[08:30] <theadmin> GBS-NET: Not supported by this channel.
[08:31] <ni291187> is there a way to use the ps command so it lists processes one page at a time?
[08:31] <GBS-NET> Theadmin....sory
[08:31] <gordonjcp> ni291187: pipe the output to less
[08:31] <theadmin> ni291187: Any command's output can be paged by adding | less at the end
[08:36] <thundert> has anyone had problems with bootloops on windows 7
[08:37] <thundert> hello anyone here
[08:37] <gordonjcp> thundert: lots of people
[08:37] <ripthejacker> How to check If my gpu is compatible with Ubuntu? Does it depend on the kernel or the X server?
[08:37] <Ben64> uh, this is #ubuntu, you're probably looking for ##windows
[08:37] <gordonjcp> thundert: what's windows 7, is it in apt?
[08:37] <pi_> lkj
[08:37] <Ben64> ripthejacker: what pu
[08:37] <Ben64> gpu*
[08:38] <thundert> lol i know its ubuntu just fustrated with windows 7.
[08:38] <ripthejacker> Ben64: AMD Radeon
[08:38] <thundert> ubuntus hasnt ever really given me problems
[08:39] <Ben64> ripthejacker: thats not a gpu
[08:39] <glda19> who use thunderbird
[08:39] <ripthejacker> Ben64: Oh , What is it called then?
[08:39] <Ben64> well whats the rest of the name
[08:40] <Ben64> radeon has been around for 13 years
[08:41] <ripthejacker> AMD Radeon HD 6450
[08:43] <Ben64> ripthejacker: should be fine
[08:43] <ripthejacker> How did you figure it out?
[08:44] <Ben64> cause its not an ancient one
[08:49] <ni291187> I'm having trouble killing an application. I don't know the name of it and it has frozen
[08:51] <Homie20006> How to bridge a /32 ip address to use another /32 ip with the same gateway for kvm usage ? :|
[08:51] <Homie20006> ni291187: how you know it hangs if you dont know the application ? you have a process id ?
[08:52] <ni291187> homie I don't
[08:53] <ni291187> it's frozen
[08:53] <Homie20006> so how you can identify this app :D what is it ?
[08:53] <ni291187> how can I start a new GUI session? I'm in a new cli window
[08:53] <ni291187> I have no idea what it is, that's the problem. it's full screen and I can't figure out how to close it
[08:54] <ni291187> I did ctrl alt f2
[08:54] <theadmin> ni291187: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[08:54] <Homie20006> and you land in a console ^
[08:54] <ni291187> yes
[08:54] <Homie20006> its an app full screen in the X-session theadmin
[08:54] <theadmin> Ah right, never mind
[08:55] <theadmin> ni291187: Well look through the process list... Do you have anything overly important running in that X session? If not, might as well restart X
[08:55] <ni291187> how do I do that?
[08:55] <theadmin> ni291187: sudo restart lightdm
[08:55] <theadmin> ni291187: (in the console)
[08:55] <Applesouce> Hey I have a small little problem, I installed Steam and wanted to play some games but they lag so bad. My Tower should be powerfull enough to play them - also I always get an error when I install the latest drivers from nVidia
[08:56] <theadmin> Applesouce: That'd be the problem... Have you tried using the hardware drivers utility that comes with Ubuntu?
[08:56] <ni291187> that worked, thanks the admin. man my system is running very unstable. it's really frustrating
[08:58] <Applesouce> theadmin: I'm not sure where can I launch it?
[08:58] <theadmin> ni291187: In case that happens again (preventive measure) go to System Settings -> Keyboard Layout -> Options... and enable the checkbox under "Key sequence to kill the X server". Then you can restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace at any moment.
[08:59] <ni291187> oh wow, nice
[09:00] <Applesouce> theadmin: Do you mean additional drivers? There are none listed ...
[09:00] <ni291187> thanks. I'm gona sleep, gotta wake up early
[09:00] <theadmin> Applesouce: Yeah that thing. Hm. If there are none listed it likely means that your card is not supported by NVidia on Linux, in that case there's really not much you can do, sadly.
[09:01] <Applesouce> theadmin: But my card is neather really outdated nor is it super new :(
[09:01] <Applesouce> theadmin: I can download a driver at nVidia, why can't I install that one ...
[09:02] <theadmin> Applesouce: well, those tend to not work on Ubuntu, why is a question beyond my level of knowledge
[09:02] <ripthejacker> Ben64: Is there a list of supported video cards or something?
[09:03] <theadmin> Applesouce: I haz a GeForce GT 525M, it worked fine with the drivers built into Ubuntu and all games I have on Steam run perfectly well (apart from Portal which has minor flickering issues now and then)
[09:03] <theadmin> Applesouce: Guess you're just unlucky :(
[09:03] <Applesouce> theadmin: NOOOOO <.< is there a list somewhere of supported chips >.<
[09:05] <Homie20006> Try to ask again, maybe anyone has an idea ^^         How to bridge a /32 ip address to use another /32 ip with the same gateway for kvm usage ? :/
[09:05] <gordonjcp> ooh, steam questions
[09:05] <theadmin> Applesouce: Uhh... There was one somewhere... But I really am unsure. Say, you *did* run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" after installing the NVidia drivers from the wesbite, right?
[09:06] <theadmin> gordonjcp: No, nvidia driver questions -- boring stuff :P
[09:06] <gordonjcp> theadmin: aw
[09:06] <Homie20006> take the bridge questions xD
[09:06] <gordonjcp> I've got a GMA4500, Half Life 2 starts up but it looks weird kind of like the textures aren't loaded - where should I check first
[09:07] <theadmin> gordonjcp: The Genetically Modified Abnomination? Ugh. I've always had serious problems with those and any kind of 3D even on Windows. :(
[09:07] <Applesouce> I now installed drivers from x-swap and now did nvidia-xconfig
[09:07] <Applesouce> theadmin: I now installed drivers from x-swap and now did nvidia-xconfig
[09:07] <theadmin> Applesouce: Is it working?
[09:08] <Applesouce> theadmin: don't I have to restart my computer for the changes to take affect?
[09:08] <theadmin> Applesouce: ...well, yes, that'd be a good idea lol
[09:08] <yoshi435_> hi
[09:08] <Applesouce> theadmin: then wait a second or two ;D
[09:09] <gordonjcp> theadmin: oh well
[09:09] <gordonjcp> theadmin: at least this machine is slightly faster and has a proper FDC connector, and more SATA ports
[09:09] <gordonjcp> theadmin: I may also be able to squeeze in an SFF "proper" graphics card
[09:13] <nimesh> hi
[09:13] <vortex> anyone using smuxi ?
[09:14] <nimesh> i need help i am a noob with ubuntu and i am upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 and it has has randomly stopped
[09:15] <perico> hola
[09:15] <gordonjcp> nimesh: 11.10 is not supported any more
[09:15] <Applesouce_> theadmin: yes working <.< now I'm done with not-playing games :P Thank you very much for the mental support!!! :D
[09:15] <nimesh> i know  but can any one help me get to 12.12
[09:16] <nimesh> i mean 12.10
[09:16] <Znoosey> don't get 12.10
[09:16] <Znoosey> get 13.04 it is much better
[09:16] <IdleOne> that's helpful
[09:16] <nimesh> how do i do that then
[09:16] <IdleOne> !eolupgrade | nimesh
[09:16] <IdleOne> see the second link
[09:16] <bekks> nimesh: The most easy way would be to reinstall 12.04
[09:17] <nimesh> also my apt-get is not working for some reason
[09:18] <nbags> nimesh: u got an error or something?
[09:18] <nimesh> yeah
[09:18] <nimesh> and now for some reason i can't open terminal
[09:18] <gordonjcp> nimesh: easiest way at this point is probably just to do a clean install
[09:18] <nbags> nimesh: thats to be expected
[09:19] <nbags> nimesh: can u press ctrl-alt-f1 and continue the upgrade from there?
[09:19] <gordonjcp> nimesh: go with 12.04 if you don't want to bother with reinstalling for a while, 13.04 if you want the latest-and-greatest, and 13.10 if you like living on the bleeding edge
[09:19] <gordonjcp> nimesh: (don't go with 13.10)
[09:20] <nbags> i never do upgrades with X running ... asking for trouble
[09:21] <gordonjcp> I never do upgrades
[09:21] <gordonjcp> I just run LTS, and when a new one comes out I do a clean install
[09:21] <gordonjcp> and at that, I usually just do a clean install onto a brand new disk
[09:21] <nbags> gordonjcp: thats best for sure
[09:22] <gordonjcp> a few wee apt-get installs and a quick copying of some dotfiles and /etc directories, and we're bangin'
[09:22] <nimesh1> hi again
[09:23] <JimmyG> Howdy.
[09:23] <JimmyG> I've got some issues with CIFS
[09:23] <nbags> gordonjcp: yeah thats fine if its your own system, but if its someone elses and you dont know their configs or the software they are using i prefer to upgrade
[09:23] <JimmyG> When the network share I've mounted goes down the computer becomes unreachable
[09:23] <nimesh1> some body on here told me to do ctr-alt-f1 ho do i get out of it
[09:23] <gordonjcp> nbags: if it's someone else's system chances are I configured it anyway
[09:23] <nbags> nimesh ctrl-alt-f7, or f8
[09:24] <bekks> JimmyG: Thats expected. You computer infinitely waits for the share to respond to IO requests.
[09:24] <nimesh> thanz
[09:24] <nimesh> i'm using to ubuntu pc
[09:24] <JimmyG> bekks: Figures. Any workaround?
[09:24] <bekks> JimmyG: Ensure that the network share doesnt go down.
[09:24] <JimmyG> lol
[09:24] <bekks> JimmyG: Thats the only solution.
[09:24] <nimesh> any way i cant upgrade using ctr-alt-f1
[09:25] <bekks> nimesh: Why not?
[09:25] <nimesh> it stuck at triggers for gnome-menus
[09:26] <nbags> bekks: yeah i still think thats pretty lame. if u have a laptop with wifi, then you plug it into lan for to do a file copy or whatever cifs should handle that, like it does under windows
[09:26] <JimmyG> So I have to use FTP to move stuff to another computer I don't have full control over?
[09:26] <nimesh> i did do-release-upgerde
[09:26] <nbags> nimesh: error?
[09:26] <nimesh> yeah let me do it again and i will write it down
[09:26] <bekks> JimmyG: You just have to ensure the share doesnt go down. No need to use FTP :)
[09:27] <nimesh> unable to get exclusive lock
[09:27] <JimmyG> bekks: Not everyone can control their entire network infrastructure.
[09:27] <Adil> Hello
[09:27] <nbags> nimesh: sounds like the other update (gui one) is still running
[09:27] <bekks> JimmyG: Shares are normally located on servers - and they can be controlled :)
[09:28] <nimesh> i did the upgrade on the giu for 11.04 to 11.10 and it has crashed/stoped
[09:28] <nimesh> it stuck at triggers for gnome-menus
[09:28] <nbags> nimesh: so u will have to kill the tasks, like dpkg and apt, and the upgrade script
[09:28] <Adil> i bought a laptop because i needed an alternative to my pc and i thought the the only way to make it usable for me was to install ubuntu
[09:28] <JimmyG> bekks: No self respecting admin sets up a server to rely on another computer being reachable
[09:29] <Adil> ive figured out  the basics but im stuck on one tghing
[09:29] <Adil> i got vuze
[09:29] <nimesh> how do i do that
[09:29] <Adil> now that ive closed it it wont start
[09:29] <bekks> JimmyG: Thats not the point. A server normally doesnt go down - so use that share to transfer your data.
[09:29] <chunkyhead> guy i need a little help with irssi, how to change the default nick?
[09:30] <nbags> nimesh: im not sure what the upgrade script is called. check with 'ps -ef'. but u probably want to 'killall -9 apt' 'killall -9 dpkg', etc. but there will be some mess to clean up. this is an unsupported upgrade which has failed so you wont neccessarily be able to fix it
[09:30] <JimmyG> bekks: Well this server does go down from time to time and with it, my client.
[09:30] <nbags> nimesh: having said that ive recovered from such a situation before
[09:30] <nimesh> ok i will try it
[09:30] <nbags> like i say, bad idea to do upgrades in X
[09:31] <Adil> guys
[09:31] <Adil> i minimized vuze
[09:31] <Adil> how do i access g
[09:31] <Adil> it*
[09:31] <jeff3864> do you guys mind if i ask a question about live usb?
[09:32] <nbags> jeff3864: go ahead
[09:32] <nimesh1> can i make a live usb in ubuntu for 12.10/13.04
[09:32] <nbags> JimmyG: you might be able to set a short timeout with a mount option. i would be checking cifs mount options
[09:33] <gordonjcp> nimesh1: yes, just dd the iso to a USB stick, there's instructions on the wiki
[09:33] <Adil> uh
[09:33] <nimesh1> ok cool
[09:34] <nimesh1> can i recover data from my failed 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade
[09:34] <jeff3864> thanks, i have used multiple different pendrives and have tried redownloading ubuntu 12.04 multiple different times (most recently through torrent so i would get the error correction) and every time i try to boot from it it just hangs with the ubuntu logo and the loading dots. no error message or anything
[09:34] <jeff3864> and i have used linux mint through pendrive before
[09:34] <nbags> JimmyG: maybe a soft mount? if thats still a thing ....
[09:34] <bekks> jeff3864: So how do yoiu finally create the bootable usb?
[09:35] <jeff3864> well i have used pendrive linux and a couple of other software after reformating the drive in windows
[09:35] <sebrock> I have a VPN connection up, I have gotten an IP. But I cannot ping or use it in any way. What might be wrong here?
[09:35] <nbags> jeff3864: did u try to boot compatability mode?
[09:36] <nbags> sebrock: routing? firewall?
[09:36] <jeff3864> i never got a option menu come up when i boot
[09:36] <bekks> jeff3864: So how do you finally create the bootable usb?
[09:36] <sebrock> nbags: no, it works fine through my usual interface
[09:36] <nimesh1> wait i did a reboot when it crashed and now i am in 11.10
[09:36] <nimesh1> from 11.04
[09:37] <nbags> jeff3864: i havent tried any recent ubuntu media. but you want to remove 'quiet' and 'splash' from your kernel command line. if u dont know how to do that someone here should be able to tell u
[09:37] <wheatthin> ahh, should have just installed 12.04 nimesh1
[09:37] <nimesh1> yeah  i am downloading 13.04 iso now
[09:37] <wheatthin> it's the lastest (oldest) one the community supports LTS
[09:37] <jeff3864> umm... ok
[09:37] <nbags> nimesh1: an apt-get dist-upgrade might clean up the upgrade for you
[09:38] <jeff3864> do you know why it isnt giving me the standard menu that allows compatibility mode and such?
[09:38] <nbags> nimesh1: if you can still boot your system you are halfway there ;)
[09:39] <nbags> jeff3864: i don't, sorry i haven't booted ubuntu media since 10.something
[09:39] <nimesh1> yeah i did the command and it said o updates
[09:40] <nimesh1> how do i stight go to 13.04 from 11.10
[09:40] <nbags> nimesh1: so it worked?
[09:40] <nbags> haha
[09:40] <nimesh1> yes it did
[09:40] <nbags> cant
[09:40] <nimesh1> why not
[09:41] <nbags> thats not the way ubuntu releases work
[09:41] <nbags> you can only go to the next release, or the next LTS release if you are currently on LTS
[09:41] <nimesh1> so how do the next upgrade
[09:42] <nbags> u will have to do 2 or 3. probably better to reinstall in most cases
[09:42] <nimesh1> what command
[09:42] <rooter_> ??
[09:42] <nbags> do-release-upgrade or whatever should still work
[09:42] <nbags> take u to 12.04, hopefully
[09:43] <nbags> if not,
[09:43] <nbags> !eolupgrade |nimesh1
[09:43] <nbags> the 2nd link
[09:43] <nimesh1> how long in time to get from 11.10 to 12.04 , 12.10 and then to 13.04
[09:43] <nbags> nimesh1: depends on your system
[09:44] <nbags> and connectionm
[09:44] <nimesh1> 100 mps
[09:45] <nbags> unless this system is heavily customised i would just install 13.04 from scratch
[09:45] <gordonjcp> nimesh1: that's a waste of time
[09:45] <gordonjcp> nimesh1: wipe it and reinstall
[09:45] <gordonjcp> nimesh1: keep copies of important config
[09:46] <gordonjcp> nimesh1: what's the system used for?  If it's just a plain ordinary desktop you probably haven't got much apart from /home that you need to keep
[09:46] <nbags> i'm going to try upgrading some systems from 6.06 to 12.04 soon =P
[09:46] <jeff3864> alright i tried hitting esc as the system booted and i got a menue that has the options run from usb install on machine check memory and boot from first harddisk, i also have boot options the boot options under install from usb already have something written in them
[09:47] <nimesh1> ok i'll make a live usb
[09:47] <jeff3864> can i erase what is uder run from usb and type whatever it takes to run in compatibility mode
[09:47] <nbags> jeff3864: if you can remove quiet and splash from the boot options u will get some error reporting
[09:47] <jeff3864> i saw splash in there but not quiet
[09:48] <jeff3864> i remembered that when i was running that system on linux mint live usb i had to boot in compatibility if tha helps
[09:48] <nimesh1> my pc is a p4 2.8ghz .15gb or ram and a ati readon 9800 pro 128mb card will i be able to get 12.04
[09:48] <nimesh1> my pc is a p4 2.8ghz .15gb or ram and a ati readon 9800 pro 128mb card will i be able to get 13.04
[09:49] <nbags> jeff3864: so why u messin around with ubuntu? ;)
[09:49] <jeff3864> for a pc im building for someone
[09:49] <nbags> nimesh1: sure
[09:49] <nimesh1> how do i make live usb in ubuntu
[09:49] <babueverest> ayone here
[09:50] <jeff3864> has an easier learning curve for basic things than windows 7 coming from windows 95 i feel
[09:50] <babueverest> any solution of read only file system ???
[09:50] <gordonjcp> babueverest: remount with it read/write?
[09:50] <nbags> jeff3864: u think unity is less learning curve than gnome 2 for windows users?
[09:50] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh1, they have tools in the software center to make a live usb or you can use the dd command from the terminal
[09:50] <babueverest> whenever i try to copy files to my external hard drive it says read only file system
[09:51] <babueverest> i tried but it didn't work :(
[09:52] <nimesh1>  my software center don't work
[09:52] <babueverest> what is the error with the software center nimesh1?
[09:53] <nimesh1> it won't download any thing
[09:54] <babueverest> which repo server are you using??
[09:54] <jeff3864> nbags: for verry simple things yes (it is for my grandfather
[09:54] <jeff3864> )
[09:54] <nbags> nimesh1: in your case i would use dd, or apt-get install unetbootin or something. its no surprise your software centre is broken since your upgrade crash halfway thru and your on an unsupported release anyway
[09:55] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh1, ok well here is how to use the dd command in a nutshell        sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX (sdx being your usb drive) and use the whole thing not a partition number like sdx1 but be careful not to wipe the wrong drive...
[09:55] <jeff3864> and when i say simple i mean browsing web and ripping/burning cd's
[09:55] <nimesh1> when i open terminal it keeps on closeing
[09:55] <jeff3864> I got rid of splash in the boot options and now i have a feed
[09:55] <braxtonplaxco> actually the arch linux wiki has a good example on (how to make a bootable usb)
[09:56] <IdleOne> !usb
[09:56] <jeff3864> the last line it shows is
[09:56] <jeff3864> starting crash support submission daemon
[09:56] <nbags> jeff3864: if u dont get anywhere with that u could try the alternate media. or for a bit of fun boot the mint cd and install ubuntu with debootstrap ;)
[09:58] <jeff3864> i installed ubuntu on the usb i had mint on
[09:58] <jeff3864> or i would just have installed that for him
[10:00] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh1, if you need to you could try ctrl+alt+f1 (and then ctrl+alt+f7 is to get back on a graphical interface)
[10:00] <sebrock> using traceroute I only seem to get to the first hop with the VPN. I can't get pass it. Anyone knows what could be wrong?
[10:01] <waqar> hello
[10:01] <waqar> i have installed #Ubuntu 13.04 and format other OS. but now I want to access my internal drives. how is it possible?
[10:01] <chunkyhead> is something wrong with my computer or is everyone getting this? http://screencloud.net/v/xYL0
[10:03] <braxtonplaxco> chunkyhead, I don't think 'myunity' is a real package
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  maybe you have to enable a source
[10:04] <nimesh> which is better 12.04 lts or 13.04
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  try unity-tweak-tool, instead
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> nimesh  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[10:04] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh, I Just installed 13.04 (comming back to ubuntu after a long trip through several distros) and I'm liking it a lot
[10:04] <nbags> nimesh: depends how often you want to upgrade the system
[10:05] <lesshaste> hi
[10:05] <lesshaste> how do you run ssh-agent from log in and not from a shell?
[10:05] <nimesh> my pc is dual boot with xp for fsx but i want to join the ubuntu crew :)
[10:06] <nbags> its a personal choice
[10:06] <Campfire> whats ubuntu mean
[10:07] <braxtonplaxco> if it will run 13.04 go for it if not try 12.04 and if not  that go for xubuntu
[10:07] <nimesh> i know but what is best for a p4 2.8ghz single cire 1.5gb Ram and a 128mb graphics card ati readeon 9800 pro
[10:07] <nimesh> core i ment
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> Campfire  "I am because we are" or so, better inform in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:07] <nimesh> 1 core
[10:07] <nbags> i would put debian stable on it
[10:07] <Campfire> ty i,m out
[10:07] <sebrock> I think I have some routing issue. CAn anyone assist me in setting up the route correctrly?
[10:08] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh, or back box (for fun hacker tools included, with lite desktop, and ubuntu os) ;)
[10:08] <nbags> sebrock: maybe. but you'll have to post details somewhere, and probably scrub out your ips if they are public
[10:09] <nimesh> i dnno
[10:09] <nimesh>  may be
[10:09] <nbags> nimesh or latest mint mate desktop
[10:09] <nimesh> i will go with 12.04 for long support
[10:09] <nbags> i probably wouldnt be trying to do unity or gnome 3 on it
[10:09] <sebrock> nbags: this is my routing table at the moment: http://pastebin.ca/2419788
[10:09] <nbags> personally
[10:09] <braxtonplaxco> nbags, just curious will mate run good on old desktops?
[10:10] <nimesh> also what is the best unity lxde or xfce
[10:10] <nbags> braxtonplaxco: yeah
[10:10] <chunkyhead> guys, when i insert usb, how to change directory frm current to the usb?
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> braxtonplaxco  mate is a mint thingy, better ask in mint support
[10:11] <nbags> mint works great on debian and ubuntu too
[10:11] <nbags> *mate
[10:11] <nimesh> what do you mean by (mate) :(
[10:12] <nbags> sebrock: so what are you trying to do?
[10:12] <braxtonplaxco> lxde is faster, xfce is still very lite and has a lot of options, (mate is a really good option but I haven't used it that much) and unity can be heavy but I like it on my desktop because it doesn't have any problems running it.
[10:12] <nbags> nimesh mate is like the fork of gnome 2
[10:12] <sebrock> nbags: for starters I'm trying to utilize the VPN connection by pinging anything through it. But it won't let traffic through
[10:12] <nimesh> so is gnome unity or what
[10:12] <jeri> what is the command to terminate a process in lubuntu?
[10:12] <nbags> sebrock: is that the ppp0?
[10:12] <sebrock> nbags: yes
[10:13] <nbags> sebrock: so you need to say what ips you want going thru the vpn
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> jeri  ps -e , then kill the pid
[10:13] <sebrock> nbags: I can see control messages being sent to the remote point, but nothing else
[10:13] <jeri> ok
[10:13] <linxon> jeri: or ps x
[10:13] <sebrock> nbags: can you specify what you mean?
[10:14] <chunkyhead> is there a way when i type "cp somefile ./somedirectory" for cp to show me progress of how much is completed?
[10:14] <nbags> sebrock: what ips are you trying to ping? you need a route to say what ips (or all) need to go thru the vpn
[10:14] <bekks> chunkyhead: No.
[10:14] <nimesh> i will now do the upgrade to 12.04 now
[10:14] <jeri> unsupported option (BSD syntax)
[10:14] <chunkyhead> bekks: is there any other command which would show me progress instead?
[10:14] <nbags> otherwise your pings are just going thru the default route on eth0
[10:15] <sebrock> nbags: I tried but must have it wrong. Using ping -i ppp0 www.google.com should ping through the ppp0 interface though
[10:15] <sebrock> it tries but is instantly stuck
[10:15] <nimesh> is there anything i need to do before i upgrade to 12.04
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> chunkyhead  you can open another terminal, then use the watch command, like so     watch 'ls -l [path_to_file]'
[10:16] <nbags> sebrock: i dont know if u can rely on ppp0 like that. i think u need a route
[10:16] <nbags> i mean rely on ping -i
[10:16] <braxtonplaxco> chunkyhead, you can also do cp -v to at least get some output to know it hasn't frozen and that it is still moving steadily
[10:16] <sebrock> nbags: so how would I go about doing that?
[10:17] <nbags> sebroke something like 'ip route add <ip you are going to add> dev ppp0'
[10:17] <jeri> Hi. is it ok to uninstall alsa in lubuntu? i got my mic working in pulseaudio it's working great, but in alsa it is muted, i have pulseaudio installed so is it safe to remove alsa?
[10:18] <sebrock> nbags: I want to be able to utilize both eth0 and ppp0
[10:18] <Steve^> Hi, when I make a file in a directory,  a Files window won't automatically refresh and show it, and Sublime Text 2 won't detect it either - I need to manually refresh. What system handles this that might be malfunctioning?
[10:18] <sebrock> and not necessarily always go through the VPN
[10:18] <nbags> sebrock: what traffic do u want to send thru the vpn?
[10:18] <sebrock> arbitrary
[10:19] <sebrock> for now I would be happy if just ping would work
[10:19] <mns2> Hello. :)
[10:19] <mns2> If I install Windows after Ubuntu, will my Ubuntu partition be wiped?
[10:20] <nimesh> no it won't
[10:20] <nbags> well u need to use some method to route the traffic. with routes or iptables or whatever. you can match on all kinds of things like uid and pid but i dont think application level can choose which interface to use like that. linux kinda sucks in that respect
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> nimesh  no, but your grub will be ruined and you'll have to repair, which is a pain
[10:20] <mns2> Will grub be overwritten?
[10:20] <mns2> Oh
[10:20] <mns2> Okay thanks! :)
[10:21] <jeri> Hi. is it ok to uninstall alsa in lubuntu? i got my mic working in pulseaudio it's working great, but in alsa it is muted, i have pulseaudio installed so is it safe to remove alsa?
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> mns2  ^^^^^
[10:21] <nimesh> yes but all you have to do is boot live and do apt-get update grub no ?
[10:21] <mns2> Should I use a dedicated grub2 usb drive repair thingy?
[10:21] <sebrock> nbags: OK so let's begin small. How would I route icmp packets to take the ppp0 route?
[10:21] <braxtonplaxco> they do make a repair tool to fix it though (mentioned on the ubuntu website for duel booting with windows 8)
[10:22] <nbags> sebrock: so whatever address you want to ping, add a route (with command i gave before). now when u ping it or access it in any way it will be thru vpn
[10:22] <braxtonplaxco> found a script to cp with a progress bar: https://chris-lamb.co.uk/posts/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> mns2  install windows before ubuntu, or you will need this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[10:23] <mns2> Too bad my ubuntu is already 150gb in use. :)
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> braxtonplaxco  you can alos use rsync -a --progress
[10:23] <carnau> Which cd install version has LVM support? I can't find the alternate one.
[10:24] <nbags> braxtonplaxco: sweet!
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> mns2  150 is huge, something must have gone wrong
[10:24] <mns2> no just a lot of movies and backup files :)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> mns2  make sure you have backup, in case something goes wrong
[10:25] <braxtonplaxco> good ol' handbrake lol
[10:25] <mns2> don't have an external hdd and idk how to backup 150gb easily
[10:25] <chunkyhead> bekks: MonkeyDust braxtonplaxco is there something like wget? ref: http://screencloud.net/v/tfTa
[10:25] <braxtonplaxco> https://chris-lamb.co.uk/posts/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget
[10:26] <mns2> gonna wing it lol
[10:26] <bekks> chunkyhead: Of course there is wget in Ubuntu.
[10:28] <chunkyhead> you dont know how much i love you braxtonplaxco
[10:28] <chunkyhead> bekks:  lol ok thanks
[10:28] <braxtonplaxco> lol I try my best ^^
[10:30] <chunkyhead> braxtonplaxco: there is just one problem, where to add that script?
[10:31] <braxtonplaxco> one moment chunkyhead, I guess in /usr/bin/ and name it something like cp_p but let me check
[10:31] <nbags> .bashrc?
[10:32] <nbags> now i wish it showed speed, and stayed on the one line
[10:33] <chunkyhead> there's always something you want more :P i am searching for more similar hacks. there have to be others. will let you know if i find some!
[10:34] <mns2> are there any significant speedups to ubuntu i can enable other than using lxde
[10:34] <chunkyhead> nbags: it says there "that this adds quite some overhead (30% to 50% in my tests) "
[10:34] <braxtonplaxco> omg I found it! chunkyhead
[10:34] <gordonjcp> mns2: lxde won't speed anything up unless you're on an enormously old machine
[10:34] <braxtonplaxco> install gcp and it does exactly what you want (and I like the program too lol)
[10:35] <chunkyhead> braxtonplaxco: use locate filename
[10:35] <mns2> i thought it's super fast / responsive
[10:35] <mns2> no animation or anything; stuff just appears instantly
[10:35] <braxtonplaxco> no script needed it's in the software store
[10:36] <chunkyhead> braxtonplaxco: let me test it
[10:36] <chunkyhead> but first i need to take a dump brb XD
[10:37] <nbags> chunkyhead: yeah i dont think i will use it. will probably use curl or rsync
[10:37] <gordonjcp> mns2: is LXDE still so horribly buggy and unmaintained?
[10:37] <mns2> no? why would it be?
[10:39] <vikesh> hi
[10:40] <vikesh> clear
[10:41] <sebrock> nbags: so it seems to work. Now how would I make it so all traffic go through that interface? I cant make a route for everything :P
[10:42] <nbags> sebrock: you need to make it the default gateway. but u also need to keep up a route to connect with the vpn server. what vpn software u using?
[10:42] <sebrock> L2TP/IPsec so its xl2tpd and openswan
[10:45] <sebrock> nbags: thing is I want the regular route to be eth0 directly but then also be able to use ppp0 upon request. I will assign certain services to go through ppp0 only but need to keep the my regular services up aswell.
[10:46] <bekks> sebrock: that may be inhibited by the vpn server
[10:47] <sebrock> bekks: why should the vpn server inhibit this. I could set services to use a certain interface right?
[10:47] <chunkyhead> braxtonplaxco: i had to transfer stuff from my audio player which was dying. i guess it's dead. 0_0
[10:47] <sebrock> There is need for all or nothing using vpn
[10:47] <bekks> sebrock: Because building a bridge head is disabled by default.
[10:48] <braxtonplaxco> chunkyhead: well that stinks :p
[10:48] <nbags> sebrock: you could match them on the type of traffic or port or ip address, process/user id with iptables.
[10:48] <nbags> or if its p2p you could run a socks proxy. thats what i do
[10:48] <chunkyhead> braxtonplaxco: this recently went in the washing machina so it had no battery life
[10:48] <sebrock> nbags: exactly.
[10:49] <sebrock> nbags: that is my main reason. I want to VPN all BT traffic
[10:49] <chunkyhead> after it somehow managed to survive. now it's dead. isn't switching on even with usb plugged in braxtonplaxco
[10:49] <Azjo> hi, i know this is irrelevant but #android is dead. can someone download an app for me and upload it to me? im blocked from downloading it :(
[10:49] <sebrock> nbags: but I will not know the IPs of my peers beforehand so?
[10:50] <nbags> sebrock: hang on ill pastebin what i do
[10:51] <nbags> so basically i call this script as i set up the vpn (openvpn in this case)
[10:51] <nbags> http://pastebin.ca/2419822
[10:52] <nbags> then i point bt client to the socks proxy localhost 1080
[10:52] <chunkyhead> i shouldn't have gone to the bathroom after all braxtonplaxco
[10:53] <braxtonplaxco> lol so did you ever try just copying some files from a dir to a tmp with gcp to see if it did what you wanted?
[10:53] <sebrock> nbags: thats great. However this is on a headless ubuntu box with Transmission Web Interface. So basically I just HTTP right to the box. No need for external clients. So what I need to do is to route all specific BT traffic I guess?
[10:53] <nimesh> hi again
[10:53] <bekks> braxtonplaxco: Err, no. cp and ls are enough. Or bar, or pv.
[10:54] <nimesh> dose any one know how to get ati readon 9800 pro drivers for ubuntu
[10:56] <nbags> sebrock: well thats why you need the socks proxy. u use a socks proxy server that can select the interface, and the 'ip rule' stuff allows that to happen
[10:56] <nimesh> dose any one know how to get ati readon 9800 pro drivers for ubuntu plz
[10:56] <nbags> the crux is echo external $LOCALIP > /etc/openvpn/3proxy.cfg
[10:57] <minimec> nimesh: There is only one driver, the opensource driver, for your card. It is included and loaded by default in ubuntu.
[10:57] <xubuntu> test
[10:57] <Guest79264> test
[10:57] <nbags> sebrock: but maybe you can find a better solution. it is kind of annoying to set up, but is working great
[10:57] <k1l_> !test | Guest79264
[10:57] <braxtonplaxco> nimesh: have you looked at this? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man4/radeon.4.html I haven't read it fully but it looked useful cause it mentions that driver.
[10:58] <nimesh> ok i will have a look
[10:58] <nbags> sebrock: my box is headless running utorrent. there is an option for socks
[10:59] <nimesh> beacuse ubuntu 13.04 install looks really fuzzy
[10:59] <nimesh> and my pc can fsx on med-high settings
[11:00] <bekks> nimesh: Why dont you use 12.04 LTS then?
[11:01] <nimesh> is it better than 13.04 grahics support
[11:01] <zteam> Hi all!
[11:01] <nimesh> cuz i am istall in it now on my other pc and it is nealy finished
[11:01] <bekks> nimesh: There is no "better" - but 12.04 is supported for a longer period.
[11:01] <zteam> Just wanted to ask if anyone have tried out the smart scope ppa for Ubuntu 13.04 yet?
[11:02] <nimesh> ok i will download 12.04
[11:02] <bekks> zteam: Why?
[11:02] <zteam> bekks, I want to know, if it's worth installing (ie how mature / stable it is)
[11:03] <bekks> zteam: Then you have to ask the author of that PPA :)
[11:03] <draconus> i'm looking for a method of gathering data received in telnet session, i mean i connect and send some commands and i need to process the output
[11:03] <zteam> bekks,  have u tried it? :)
[11:03] <bekks> zteam: Nope.
[11:04] <bekks> zteam: But in general, PPA arent supported in here :)
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> zteam  because a ppa can harm your system and you'll come back hear to repair it
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> here*
[11:05] <cfhowlett> zteam, and we won't ...
[11:05] <stellarok> -help::#opnsa
[11:06] <Hyperbyte> I have a Ubuntu 12.04 NFS client which shows -some- directories as owned by nobody:nogroup.  I know this is idmapd related, but I'm confused why some user accounts are mapped correctly, and others aren't.  idmapd.conf contains same domain on server and client and is running on both.  All user accounts come from LDAP and exist on both server and client.
[11:06] <Hyperbyte> Anyone has any ideas on where to look next? :)
[11:06] <zteam> MonkeyDust, from my experience ppa-purge can correct these issues most of the times :)
[11:10] <ubuntu890> hi
[11:10] <cfhowlett> ubuntu890  greetings
[11:10] <chunkyhe1d> does anyone use cmus here?
[11:11] <vlad_starkov> Question: Could anyone provide working vsftpd.conf for virtual users and TLS/SSL/FTPS enabled?
[11:12] <chunkyhe1d> :q
[11:14] <yorrd> I keep getting Failed to store credentials in the keyring when trying to add accounts to the Gnome Online Accoutns settings. Anyone know a solution?
[11:14] <sensae> I have an X120E with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS installed, and it won't resume from suspend. I just get a black screen and have to pull the battery to get it to boot again.
[11:15] <cfhowlett> !suspend
[11:16] <cfhowlett> sensae, /swap issue?  Lack thereof would make suspend/resume act strangely
[11:18] <sensae> cfhowlett: good guess, looks like there isn't any swap set up for the system. Do I need to repartition with a swap partition, or will an automounted swapfile be fine?
[11:18] <bekks> sensae: a swapfile is sufficient.
[11:20] <sensae> I was mistaken - swapon -s lists "cryptswap1" is already set up
[11:20] <cfhowlett> sensae, encrypted swap?  that MIGHT not be the same as a garden variety swap?
[11:21] <sensae> cfhowlett: I'm guessing so, but it's nothing special I set up. I just checked the "encrypt my home folder" option during installation.
[11:22] <cfhowlett> sensae, while I know the symptoms, I don't know the cure.  Ask in the channel again and give details
[11:23] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[11:23] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj_, greetings
[11:24] <Peaker> Hey, I want to confirm my bug on bugs.launchpad.net, but none of my computers manage to load any subsite of launchpad.net
[11:25] <sensae> Lenovo X120e, running 12.04 LTS x64. I click suspend, it suspends.  I can't hard-reboot it with the power button, have to yank the battery completely to get it to reboot. I can't find anything that looks wrong in dmesg
[11:25] <Peaker> firefox/chrome both get stuck trying to load it.. what gives?
[11:25] <sensae> I can't even find an error message in any of the system logs to post
[11:25] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[11:28] <hjfgyjdckjhr> hi do i need firewall?
[11:28] <bekks> hjfgyjdckjhr: Depends. :)
[11:28] <hjfgyjdckjhr> on what?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !firewall|hjfgyjdckjhr, no.
[11:28] <hjfgyjdckjhr> do i run services thet listen on port?
[11:29] <hjfgyjdckjhr> i know but i notice some people sey i dont need firewall and some sey other and i know thet linux comes whit iptables but as i notice by deafoult they arent configure?
[11:30]  * somson
[11:31] <hjfgyjdckjhr> gufw is a gui for iptables and i6tables
[11:31] <Peaker> I think I'll give up on reporting a bug to Ubuntu, it's the most difficult thing I've had to do in ages
[11:31] <iceroot> Peaker: ubuntu-bug packagename   thats all
[11:32] <Peaker> given that launchpad.net is somehow not accessible *just for me*
[11:32] <Peaker> iceroot, it doesn't work
[11:32] <iceroot> !work | Peaker
[11:32] <Peaker> iceroot, the ubuntu-bug program runs apport, and the gui disappears, and nothing happens except it leaks the apport zombie process
[11:33] <Peaker> iceroot, yesterday I managed to access bugs.launchpad.net directly to report the bug, but then it emailed me about confirming my bug, which I can't do, because launchpad.net doesn't load in my browser either, it gets stuck loading until a very long timeout
[11:35] <Peaker> if someone can "confirm" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1198556 (I added all the necessary information, no need for more logs) that would at least mean my time wasn't wasted in vain
[11:36] <iceroot> Peaker: it is important to add these files
[11:36] <iceroot> Peaker: so we just can not set it to "confirmed" because the devs need debug-infos
[11:36] <Peaker> iceroot, This isn't a reporting of a symptom
[11:36] <Peaker> iceroot, I researched the problem, found the issue, fixed it on my computer, and reported the process
[11:37] <Gopi> Dear All, I have installed Ralink drivers for my Ralink USB modem, however not able to connect to wifi. Lubuntu version 12.04
[11:37] <iceroot> Peaker: the bug is missing important informations. which ubuntu version, fresh install or update, what package versions and so on. that is all coming from apport
[11:38] <Gopi> Please see result of Lsusb and lsmod at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5852336/
[11:39] <Umair> is there any ubuntu utility that creates apache virtual host for current directory on different port?
[11:39] <Peaker> iceroot, the bug is not with a system configuration but within the files of a specific package I mentioned
[11:40] <iceroot> Peaker: there are not tags on the bug as well (i386, amd64 and so on) so please respect that we need the normal bug-layout for that, also for creating bug-overviews and so on
[11:40] <Peaker> iceroot, but I'm pointing directly to the problem with specific files in a specific package (you can add the version; 3.8.0-26.38, because I can't access the website)