[12:22] <akis> hateball: trying...
[12:22] <hateball> akis: it should, if it is working properly, show the download progress scroll by
[12:23] <hateball> akis: and you'll need to restart firefox after it is done
[12:23] <amdp> SwedeMike: is there a way to install ubuntu directly on a target macbook?
[12:23] <amdp> like I have two macbooks and I'd like to install ubuntu from one to another older mac
[12:24] <SwedeMike> amdp: no idea.
[12:25] <akis> hateball: it worked. adobe is present again. thank you for the advise to reinstall it.
[12:25] <amdp> SwedeMike: thanks, that's useful, usually people start to invent ways to do stuff even when they don't know. I appreciate, I'll give it a try with your suggested method.
[12:25] <MoL0ToV> k1l_, http://termbin.com/71fy
[12:25] <hateball> akis: like ikonia said, the installer/wrapper is quite terrible. it downloads a script, then tries to fetch libflashplayer.so from adobe. if anything fails there (like internet dropping), it wont retry
[12:26] <k1l_> MoL0ToV: that is the EFI partition.
[12:26] <akis> hateball: i am sure that the issue appeared during a system's update.
[12:26] <MoL0ToV> grub is placed in ext4 partition or in efi? what contains efi partition? is needed?
[12:26] <amdp> SwedeMike: is there a 32 bit version?
[12:26] <Trekka12> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu and trying to figure out some permission stuff, was wondering if I want a groups members to be the only one able to access directories, how I can accomplish this and what the permissions need to be?
[12:27] <SwedeMike> amdp: don't know. Use the CLI method I also pasted link to.
[12:27] <hateball> !permissions | Trekka12
[12:30] <amdp> SwedeMike: ok!
[12:30] <Trekka12> I already read through: http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0090.php but I found it lacking some details concerning whether the "owner" of directory can be group alone and thereby also give permissions to the groups users, or however that works :/ but i will check what u sent as well
[12:30] <morsnowski> akis hateball why don't you go the foot path and download the plugin and copy it into the addin folder, I haven't bothered with the installer in years
[12:31] <Trekka12> hateball, where were that command meant to be inputted? cuz in ssh it isn't giving anything
[12:32] <hateball> morsnowski: That's what I'd do, but it's not the supported way
[12:32] <morsnowski> hateball, PFO supported way :)
[12:32] <hateball> Trekka12: You were meant to read the URL ubottu gave you
[12:33] <Trekka12> I am as well, but figured you wrote a command that was an alternative information source?
[12:33] <hateball> Trekka12: no, it just triggers the bot
[12:33] <hateball> !bot
[12:33] <Trekka12> ohh
[12:34] <Trekka12> my bad, didn't know
[12:38] <modprime> whats a good backup program for backing up the ubuntu system drive without having to shut down the system?
[12:40] <Tobias92> I can't get my HP ScanJet 5300c to work on Ubuntu, even though it has worked before. When I can, all I get is a short humm (which also happens when the scanner is functioning), and then nothing. Afterwards, `scanimage -L` does not pick up the scanner anymore. When I unplug and plug in again, the scanner is found. Also, dmesg is crawling with "reset low-speed USB device number 2 using ohci-pci". Has anyone got a suggestion?
[12:40] <Tobias92> *When I scan
[12:42] <modprime> laptop?
[12:42] <Tobias92> modprime, are you asking me?
[12:43] <roxer> No menubar or launcher after updates, works when i login with guest.  Tried reinstall gnome
[12:43] <roxer> Any ideas?
[12:49] <Trekka12> ok hateball finally finished reading through the link the bot refered me to for permissions, but still not quite sure what differs user from group or what "others" include, and what does the concept of "ownership" of a directory mean in linux? what if group has ownership, what it means, etc? any reference where I can read about this?
[12:53] <darkeye> roxer :  maybe  some configuration crashs unity?
[12:53] <darkeye> try moving ~/.config to some where else
[12:53] <ouroumov> Trekka12: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_04.html
[12:54] <vyadhaka> trying to install mainline kernel to fix a bug, which one is the latest stable - 4.7?
[12:55] <roxer> Cant find ~/.Config
[12:56] <vyadhaka> #linux
[12:58] <akik> roxer: it's lower case c
[12:58] <roxer> I know, writeing on my cellphone
[13:01] <uddane> has anyone set up samba on 16.04? what is the best version? I'm trying to connect to a iMac (OS X) and a FreeBSD 10.3 on my LAN
[13:02] <ropo> Burning data into disc using Brasero, it's taking way too long, normal?
[13:05] <ash_workz> I think I asked this before and maybe didn't get an answer
[13:06] <ash_workz> how can you find the executable for an application that shows in the dash?
[13:06] <ash_workz> ie: for meld, which meld shows '/usr/bin/meld'
[13:07] <ash_workz> but like, for beyond compare... all I know is that it shows up in the dash when I type it
[13:07] <Southern_Gentlem> ropo define too long?
[13:07] <darkeye> Roxer : Hmm weird do you  have .gconf?
[13:07] <ropo> Southern_Gentlem, it's over 2hrs now, it has only burned 171mb out of 3.2gb
[13:09] <roxer> darkeye: i was logged in as root in The terminal..
[13:11] <Trekka12> if I set permission to d---rwx--- can users in the groups read-write and execute then as well, or for this do I also need to have rwx on user? and not only groups?
[13:11] <uddane> ropo: WOW, I'm wondering if the media is bad or your burner is dead
[13:12] <roxer> darkeye: moving. Config did not Work
[13:12] <Southern_Gentlem> ropo yes badmedia or bad drive
[13:15] <ash_workz> beyond compare turned out to be bcompare, but deriving that from google is not very effective
[13:15] <ash_workz> but yeah, if anyone knows how to get bcompare from "beyond compare" I'd appreciate the help
[13:34] <uddane> Does anyone out there run a different desktop other than unity?
[13:36] <joelio> uddane: gnome3
[13:36] <joelio> never really got on with unity, personally
[13:38] <PugaBear> Does pasting a sudo password usually work on terminal?
[13:39] <joelio> yea, just be sure you're in the right terminal (and not an irc session!) lol
[13:39] <PugaBear> hmm, maybe the password is wrong then ;-;
[13:39] <uddane> joelio: its ok....but I think I want to get all my different OSs on the same desktop. Just stood up a unix box with KDE
[13:39] <joelio> PugaBear: or you have whitespace in the copy
[13:39] <joelio> ususally last character
[13:40] <PugaBear> nope no whitespace
[13:40] <joelio> PugaBear: type it in manually then, if it's not working, password issue
[13:40] <z80a> uddane: While Unity appear to be most peoples favorite hate object, the other (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome) rank quite low on www.distrowatch.com . I guess most Ubuntu users use Unity after all - maybe with some tweaking. The alternative seems to Mint...
[13:40] <joelio> uddane: you can run many different window managers / desktop environments - just select which one at the graphical login
[13:41] <PugaBear> yeah...it's a massive password..*sighs*
[13:41] <joelio> z80a: gnome in use in many other distros, it's apples/oranges comparison
[13:41] <joelio> also I gont' use ubuntu gnome - I just use ubuntu alternatve installer and then apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[13:42] <uddane> PugaBear: copy the password into 'notepad' then copy from there into terminal...
[13:42] <PugaBear> pft notepad
[13:42] <PugaBear> ill try tho thanks :)
[13:42] <uddane> PugaBear: it will remove characters that workpad or word would leave in ausing the password to fail in terminal
[13:43] <z80a> joelio: I know and agree - but if we talk Ubuntu, Unity appears to quite common. But as you point out; plenty of choices in the Linux world...
[13:43] <uddane> z80a: I'm ok with the unity desktop, but want all the PCs to have the same look
[13:44] <PugaBear> i'm using sublime text :^)
[13:44] <PugaBear> but yeah the password must be wrong
[13:44] <PugaBear> thanks guys
[13:44] <uddane> PugaBear: could be locked out from failed tries too... set mine up like that
[13:45] <uddane> z80a: I think most people use unity because it is already installed...
[13:46] <uddane> z80a: I know thats why I have it
[13:48] <z80a> uddane: I agree - same here, though I have multiple machines with e.g. Mint
[13:48] <thiras> is there an gnome extentions alternative for ubuntu 16
[13:49] <xangua> thiras: gnome extensions alternative?
[13:49] <thiras> it doesn't work under ubuntu 16
[13:49] <thiras> probably because unity/compiz stuff
[13:49] <thiras> i guess
[13:49] <xangua> !doesntwork
[13:49] <xangua> thiras: are you using unity or gnome shell?
[13:50] <thiras> the default one
[13:50] <thiras> guess it's unity
[13:52] <stdd> hi
[14:02] <zartarr> hi guys can someone help me install a printer
[14:02] <zartarr> it shows up when searching for a printer
[14:02] <zartarr> but ends up not installing
[14:03] <zartarr> its a brother printer with instructions online but cant follow it bcuz of the errors that come up in terminal
[14:04] <cscf> zartarr, are you still on Trisquel?  Aren't the drivers proprietary?
[14:04] <zartarr> yup cscf, and drivers are for mfc 9130cw
[14:05] <zartarr> last night th0r told me about cups and in the brother website there is stuff like cups... it just ends up with errors in terminal
[14:06] <uddane> zartarr: have you googled any of the errors?
[14:06] <dennism> my-question:  I am trying to boot Ubuntu 16.04 server from iSCSI with IBFT.  I can see that the local-top/iscsi script uses iscsistart -f to populate the iSCSI info from the IBFT.  But the server will not boot.  Are there new instructions for iSCSI IBFT boot?  Thanks.
[14:07] <zartarr> google ain't much help, now i am using duckduckgo and startpage maybe thats why
[14:08] <uddane> zartarr: I've had really good success with google and error codes...
[14:09] <zartarr> ok ill follow the tips on this site again : http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc9130cw_us&os=128
[14:09] <zartarr> if i run into the same errors as last night ill post here
[14:12] <ducasse> zartarr: if your brother printer is anything like mine, force the install of the driver packages and install any missing dependencies. other than that, trisquel is not really supported here.
[14:12] <Trekka12> when I type sudo chgrp group1 ./grp1 what does ./ mean?
[14:12] <Trekka12> the dot (.) to be more exact
[14:13] <ducasse> Trekka12: it means 'current directory'
[14:13] <Trekka12> ah ok so I have to use that instead of as for windows simply do the name of the folder?
[14:14] <Trekka12> ducasse,
[14:14] <ducasse> Trekka12: if the file is in the current dir it should not be necessary with chgrp
[14:14] <Trekka12> so I can simply put the name of folder instead of ./?
[14:15] <Trekka12> if so- when do you use ./ then? if not needed in this instance? ducasse
[14:16] <ducasse> Trekka12: you should just need the filename. ./ is needed to for example launch a program if '.' is not in your path.
[14:16] <Trekka12> okay
[14:16] <Trekka12> thx
[14:19] <est> hi, so I want a package to be nominated for import from debian
[14:19] <est> fo yaketty
[14:19] <est> freeze date is not reached yet, so its doable, no?
[14:19] <dbrom> anyone use rsynce here
[14:21] <ducasse> est: try #ubuntu+1
[14:21] <dbrom> im trying to use rsync to move a folder from a remote system to a local server... with no luck  syntex that i am using is   rsync --progress -av -P "ssh -p 45" dbrom@ip:/home/dbrom/Downloads/ move
[14:21] <joelio> dbrom: rsync, yea
[14:21] <StevenGFX> Can I install software onto my ubuntu hdd via a live cd? I have no window manager so im trying to reinstall one and for the life of me i can't get internet working in safemode and I have no window manager.. bleeh
[14:22] <joelio> dbrom: wrong syntax
[14:22] <joelio> you don't need to include ssh (if you did you use -e flag)
[14:22] <dbrom> whats corect
[14:22] <dbrom> correct
[14:22] <est> ducasse: I *knew* i would get that response
[14:23] <ducasse> StevenGFX: just install from command line on your install
[14:23] <ducasse> est: then why ask?
[14:23] <joelio> dbrom: port 45 for ssh, right ok I see.. you need a -e basically.. I'll write it for you
[14:23] <StevenGFX> ducasse, i cant get my internet adapters working
[14:23] <joelio> rsync --progress -avP -e 'ssh -p 45' dbrom@ip:/home/dbrom/Downloads/ move
[14:23] <joelio> dbrom: ^^
[14:23] <joelio> also --parital is good too
[14:24] <dbrom> ok thats my next thought is -e seprate
[14:24] <est> ducasse: because I've realized it after I've asked my question
[14:26] <ducasse> StevenGFX: do you use network manager for networking?
[14:27] <StevenGFX> ducasse, I do
[14:28] <dbrom> thanks Joelio  whats --parital do and whats the benifits
[14:28] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then you can use nmcli to start networking. i don't use nm myself, so i'm not familiar with it, but look at the man page or --help output.
[14:28] <StevenGFX> ducasse, ok thanks. I'll give that shot
[14:29] <StevenGFX> ducasse, do I need to enter safemode with networking?
[14:30] <binia> dbrom, just do rsync -aP -e "ssh -p 45" user@remotehost:/home/user/blahblah /yourdirectory/blahblah
[14:30] <dbrom> it works....
[14:30] <binia> wit will show progress and move all directories/subdirectories
[14:30] <ducasse> StevenGFX: you should be able to boot normally and just drop to a console.
[14:31] <StevenGFX> I'm unable to boot and drop to console. I get an endless boot hold message
[14:31] <StevenGFX> because i have no window manger i think
[14:32] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then there are other problems than a missing wm.
[14:32] <StevenGFX> bleh
[14:33] <zartarr> ok simpler question then
[14:33] <zartarr> how do i get pastebinit installed....
[14:34] <ducasse> zartarr: 'sudo apt install pastebinit'?
[14:35] <StevenGFX> ducasse, i found a solution to this i believe but I just need networking
[14:35] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then try rescue mode with networking
[14:36] <StevenGFX> ducasse, which spits out endless messages "dhcpdiscover on wlp..." and doesnt let me get to a cmd prompt
[14:37] <zartarr> ok cool
[14:37] <zartarr> and how does it work?
[14:37] <zartarr> everyone was asking for pastebinit
[14:37] <ducasse> StevenGFX: then try plain rescue mode and set networking up by hand.
[14:37] <ducasse> zartarr: you really should ask in #trisquel
[14:38] <zartarr> isn't trisquel also ubuntu,
[14:38] <zartarr> p.s. trisquel is like 99% dead... and trisquel came installed on my pc
[14:38] <Fleuv> Hi, what is the default or most common setup of filesystems on ubuntu? I think my filesystem isn't setup correctly: http://pastebin.com/idq4jAFU
[14:38] <ducasse> zartarr: no, it's a derivative.
[14:38] <zartarr> 1918 users vs 66 user power :)
[14:40] <ducasse> zartarr: to be brutally honest, not our problem :) we support official ubuntu flavors only.
[14:40] <zartarr> is official ubuntu anything that runs with untu ?
[14:40] <zartarr> ends with *
[14:40] <zartarr> i thought trisquel was ubuntu as well thats why i actually join here as well
[14:40] <ducasse> !flavors
[14:42] <dbrom> Which flavor of Ubuntu do you use * asking everyone *
[14:42] <mcphail> dbrom: this isn't a channel for polls, I'm afraid
[14:42] <zartarr> hmm ok
[14:43] <dbrom> no a poll just wanted to know because I am using kubuntu and wanting to go to a new flavor
[14:43] <dbrom> not a poll
[14:43] <craptalk> how can i create env variable to put it on /usr/bin with my chosen names?
[14:44] <craptalk> i create an alias but it is only on terminal session and i need to recreate it once i closed the terminal
[14:44] <joelio> dbrom: --partial will resume file transfer (so a large file is really helped as it'll chunk the file and checksum up until the data is no longer consistent then it'll resume from that chunk)
[14:45] <dbrom> add it to your bashrc file
[14:45] <craptalk> edit it there and save it?
[14:45] <dbrom> yes
[14:48] <dbrom> i tried to use --partial but it failed
[14:48] <craptalk> dbrom, such a great advice man
[14:48] <craptalk> dbrom, thank you
[14:50] <pavlos> craptalk, you can add it to your .bash_aliases
[14:50] <joelio> dbrom: strange, it's definitely an option - maybe the remote end didn't support it
[14:50] <joelio> $ rsync --help | grep partial
[14:50] <joelio>      --partial               keep partially transferred files
[14:50] <craptalk> pavlos, whats the difference with bashrc? i did it well in bashrc?
[14:51] <dbrom> its a hidden file so its .bachrc
[14:51] <pavlos> craptalk, no diff, just a matter of keeping things tidy.
[14:53] <pavlos> craptalk, if you look at .bashrc, there is a section, alias definitions, which sources (includes) the .bash_aliases
[14:54] <craptalk> pavlos, where is bash_aliases?
[14:54] <craptalk> couldnt find it in /home
[14:54] <cscf> craptalk, it's hidden, if it exists.  .bash_aliases
[14:54] <cscf> Not sure if all installs have it by default.
[14:55] <craptalk> i did use ls -a to display hidden things
[14:55] <craptalk> but no found
[14:55] <dbrom> you find . -type f -iname "bash*" -print it will help you
[14:55] <cscf> craptalk, well, then it's not there.  You can create it.  But look in .bash_aliases to see if it's being sourced, otherwise it wont do anything
[14:56] <craptalk> where is it supposed to be?
[14:56] <pavlos> craptalk, it is a dot file, .bash_aliases in your home dir
[14:56] <ducasse> craptalk: there is no ~/.bash_aliases by default iirc, just create it.
[14:56] <dbrom> its suppose to be in ~/
[14:57] <bash_> I need to efective reject all request coming from network I guess ufw reject from <IP_ADDRESS>/16 would do the trick right?
[14:57] <dbrom> if -P and -- partial do the same thing why do you need to enter it in twice
[14:57] <craptalk> once i created it should i put it in /usr/bin to add it to default command terminal? or it will be functioning directly?
[14:57] <ikonia> craptalk: no
[14:58] <ikonia> craptalk: nohting goes in /usr/bin
[14:58] <ikonia> it's just your shell env
[14:58] <ikonia> update .bash_profile or .bashrc with your aliases / path updates
[14:58] <pavlos> craptalk, the command la lists files in your home plus dot files (there is an alias in .bashrc)
[14:58] <posi> What's the best file system for fast reads with a lot of small files. I.e enough small files where I had to tweak inodes x10 on ext4
[14:58] <posi> I want really fast metadata access
[14:59] <craptalk> pavlos, i know, i created aliases on bashrc, just want to know how to create it myself and make it work
[14:59] <ikonia> posi: so tuning the file system will help, but by default xfs works well with smaller files in large numbers
[14:59] <ikonia> craptalk: create what yourself ?
[14:59] <craptalk> .bash_aliases
[14:59] <posi> Tuning guides?
[14:59] <craptalk> and put list of aliases
[14:59] <craptalk> there
[15:00] <ikonia> craptalk: just put it in your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[15:00] <craptalk> alright
[15:00] <craptalk> i did it
[15:01] <craptalk> anyway, you said nothing goes to /usr/bin, but when i want to make shell program to do stuff and want to make it working with terminal command, last time i did was copy it to /usr/bin and create alias in bashrc
[15:01] <craptalk> am i right thinking that way?
[15:02] <ikonia> craptalk: I don't see why you'd put it in there
[15:02] <ikonia> if its just a shell script, just leave it in your home directory
[15:02] <ikonia> and I don't know why you need an alias for it
[15:02] <ikonia> but thats up to you
[15:02] <craptalk> ikonia, every terminal command is executed in /usr/bin right?
[15:02] <ikonia> no
[15:03] <craptalk> where?
[15:03] <djdexter> exit
[15:03] <ikonia> and a "command" or binary is different than a shell script
[15:03] <ikonia> some are shell functions for example
[15:03] <darkdrgn2k> hi all, where does th autoconfig.js file go in a linux install (speific ubuntu)
[15:03] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: in what respect ?
[15:04] <darkdrgn2k> ikonia: as in "Deploying Firefox in an enterprise environment"
[15:04] <darkdrgn2k> to configure settings in firefox for all users.. IE: NTLM passthrough auth
[15:04] <craptalk> ikonia, but what if i want to create my own command?
[15:04] <craptalk> and make it in work like other commands?
[15:04] <ikonia> craptalk: then decide how you want to make it
[15:04] <ikonia> craptalk: thats just in your path
[15:04] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: depends what/how you're going to dell firefox to run it
[15:05] <ikonia> darkdrgn2k: as I recall it's just a command argument to set the path to run it
[15:05] <craptalk> i know what you mean, but i need to put it in default $PATH right?
[15:05] <darkdrgn2k> ikonia: im looking at setting NTLM passthrough settings
[15:05] <craptalk> so i wont go to its directory?
[15:05] <craptalk> to just launch it?
[15:05] <john-key> hi
[15:05] <Pici> craptalk: if its just for your user, you can put it in ~/.local/bin/ or ~/bin/ and add that to your users $PATH
[15:06] <craptalk> Pici, got it
[15:07] <darkdrgn2k> specificlaly "network.negotiate-auth.delegation-uris"
[15:08] <darkdrgn2k> and i dont see a command line paramater for that..
[15:09] <joelio> darkdrgn2k: that's a chrome/ff option afair
[15:09] <joelio> about::config
[15:10] <darkdrgn2k> joelio: yeh but how do i set it to all users
[15:10] <joelio> not a question for ubuntu, I'm afraid, that's profile management for $BROWSER
[15:11] <craptalk> when i edit this EDITOR=nano export EDITOR on my env table, did it just create nano as my default editor?
[15:13] <joelio> craptalk: ubuntu's way is via update-alternatives
[15:13] <joelio> but yea, EDITOR is an env var that is used in linux
[15:13] <ducasse> craptalk: you set the default editor for programs that respects $EDITOR
[15:13] <craptalk> joelio, so what do you mean?
[15:14] <joelio> craptalk: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[15:14] <joelio> is how you would change your default editor for the system
[15:14] <joelio> that's the ubuntu way of doing it
[15:16] <craptalk> clear
[15:16] <brunch875> is it possible to make ttys display notifications sent by notify-send?
[15:17] <zartarr> is imap actually less secure?
[15:18] <zartarr> adding an email account from gmail, and its asking me to allow 'less secure imap'
[15:18] <zartarr> curious
[15:18] <ccruz> Holas
[15:18] <ducasse> zartarr: that's just google wanting you to use their app, ignore it.
[15:18] <zartarr> excellent
[15:19] <zartarr> q for you ducasse, do you physically type my name
[15:19] <zartarr> or is there some hotkey which does a reply
[15:19] <Pici> !tab
[15:19] <ducasse> zartarr: i press 'z' and hit tab
[15:19] <cscf> zartarr, 'zar<tab>'
[15:20] <cscf> ducasse, only z?  But there's tons of z's on here.
[15:20] <zartarr> man i love tab
[15:20] <ducasse> cscf: weechat expands to last who spoke
[15:20] <zartarr> you know what i also discovered, accidently, if you use the arrow keys in terminal you can use the previous code line
[15:20] <Pici> Many IRC clients are smart enough to pick the person who spoke last, and then subsequent tabs pick others.
[15:20] <cscf> ducasse, ah, that is smart.
[15:21] <ducasse> cscf: yay weechat! :)
[15:21] <cscf> zartarr, yup, that is handy.  Also Ctrl-R can search.
[15:23] <snowkidind> anyone use pianobar?
[15:23] <snowkidind> (pandora streamer for *nux)
[15:24] <snowkidind> the problem is that pandora will not stream to (some third world country) - what I want to do is make a repeater that I can have pandora stream to my server and then that forwards that to (country)
[15:25] <iman55> hi
[15:26] <Tanner_> I am getting lots of flickering in chrome while watching a youtube video on 16.04, integrated graphics on a Thinkpad E560. I've spent some time googling and tried what I've found, but no luck. Any ideas?
[15:27] <Tanner_> The flickering occasionally happens elsewhere as well
[15:29] <ducasse> Tanner_: what do you mean by 'flickering' - tearing?
[15:30] <Mindfart> Tanner_: if flickering means stutters, you could try to disable hardware accelerated video decode in chrome://flags (helps in some edge cases)
[15:31] <BogDrakonov> Hey all. Anyone know what /etc/init.d/kcare does? I don't recall seeing this on 14.04 systems in the past
[15:31] <BogDrakonov> Also don't recall installing it
[15:31] <joelio> Mindfart: Tanner: Default youtube *isn't* hardware accelerated
[15:31] <joelio> it uses vp8
[15:31] <Mindfart> I have had issues with youtube about half a year ago
[15:31] <joelio> you need to install h264ify to get hardware acceleration as gpu's have h264 support
[15:31] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: using kde?
[15:32] <Mindfart> so if it has changed since then ok, if not.. then u probably are not right
[15:32] <joelio> google own vpN codec
[15:32] <BogDrakonov> k1l_: it's a server in liquidweb so I highly doubt they isntalled kde
[15:32] <BogDrakonov> I only use ssh on it
[15:32] <joelio> s/vp8/vp9
[15:32] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: seems its for "kernelcare" for live patching
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> k1l_: ah thanks
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> I was trying to find whatever management tool they are using to revert settings on me and kill it
[15:33] <k1l_> BogDrakonov: https://www.cloudlinux.com/all-products/product-overview/kernelcare
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> iptables time I guess
[15:33] <BogDrakonov> neat thanks
[15:35] <darkdrgn2k> ok i figured out firefox :)
[15:35] <darkdrgn2k> ok another question, any suggestions on email client for an EXCHANGE server, and is there a way to "auto configure" it
[15:36] <brunch875> wow, it also works in pidgin. Nice hint
[15:36] <Kurvivor> hello!
[15:37] <Kurvivor> how can i fond out what package is a certain program from?
[15:38] <nacc> Kurvivor: apt-file is one way
[15:38] <ducasse> Kurvivor: dpkg -S or apt-file
[15:38] <nacc> Kurvivor: if you know the path to the program
[15:38] <Kurvivor> i see
[15:38] <nacc> or the name of hte program itself
[15:39] <Kurvivor> by the way, what is the name of that one program that builds .deb files from makefile projects?
[15:39] <ducasse> Kurvivor: checkinstall?
[15:39] <brunch875> checkinstall if I remember
[15:39] <zartarr> hmm setting up my email returns ;  Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version.".
[15:39] <Kurvivor> thanks!
[15:39] <Kurvivor> i have built a program withj checkinstall way back in the day, so to say, and now there is a new version of it
[15:40] <Kurvivor> (built and installed)
[15:41] <joelio> Kurvivor: fpm - effing package manager
[15:42] <joelio> it can be used for gems/pip etc etc etc too
[15:42] <joelio> not very 'debian' way but it gets the job done for sure
[15:42] <joelio> https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki
[15:46] <gregf_> hello
[15:46] <gregf_> im trying to access freenode but all ports except 80/443 have been closed
[15:46] <gregf_> is there a way to get around this? port forwarding or somesuch?
[15:47] <k1l_> you mean freenode banned your ip?
[15:48] <k1l_> gregf_: actually, you could try with your real ip and not a proxy
[15:48] <gregf_> k1l_: nope :/. my company has closed all ports
[15:48] <tgm4883> gregf_: there are a few web IRC clients
[15:48] <BogDrakonov> gregf_: FWIW I use irccloud.com as a bouncer to get around company port blocking
[15:49] <BogDrakonov> It also syncs where you left off among apps and the web gui
[15:49] <gregf_> yes, but ive been using irssi :|
[15:49] <BogDrakonov> oh
[15:49] <gregf_> BogDrakonov: oh i see
[15:49] <tgm4883> gregf_: well then setup an SSH tunnel to an SSH server you control?
[15:50] <gregf_> tgm4883: thats what i wanted to know :)
[15:50] <meshuggah> hello people,  iuse windows 7 and i would like to know how to configure it so it correct automatically time&date at every boot?
[15:50] <k1l_> meshuggah: ask ##windows .this is ubuntu support only
[15:50] <Pici> meshuggah: That sounds like a question for ##windows...
[15:50] <tgm4883> gregf_: I used to do that at a previous company that blocked IRC traffic. SSH tunnel to my house and then did IRC over that
[15:51] <meshuggah> i do know, but ##windows doesnt know about it, i am 100% sure people here are way more knowledgeable
[15:51] <tgm4883> meshuggah: is this a dual boot machine?
[15:51] <tgm4883> ...
[15:52] <gregf_> tgm4883: let me try setting up an ssh server and tunelling through
[15:52] <tgm4883> apparently there is a zero tolerance rule in #ubuntu now
[15:52] <Pici> tgm4883: it was a quiet, not a ban.
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: you can use -D {port} to create a SOCKS5 proxy in ssh too (with traffic coming out of the ssh bastion), it's useful for doing that kind of thing
[15:53] <tgm4883> Pici: effectively the same thing though? He can't answer what was asked of him
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: or use irssi on a vm and just ssh/screen
[15:53] <Pici> tgm4883: but now k1l_ can speak to him in private without the channel being disrupted.
[15:53] <k1l_> tgm4883: its a know user who has violated the guidelines very often before on purpose. so there is a very short rope.
[15:53] <joelio> gregf_: (what I do)
[15:53] <Pici> or that
[15:53] <tgm4883> k1l_: Pici ah, sounds good then
[15:53]  * joelio steps back then
[15:54] <Hiko> join /internet
[15:54] <tgm4883> gregf_: actually, now that I recall I did exactly what joelio is describing, a socks5 proxy
[15:56] <joelio> tgm4883: it's pretty handy :)
[15:57] <BogDrakonov> For VPN/SSH/proxying to external sources to escape firewalls and filters I use this https://github.com/jlund/streisand
[15:57]  * BogDrakonov bows out of the convo now to get back to work
[15:57] <Hiko> /join #hackers
[15:58] <joelio> mariuszkarpiarz: *waves*
[15:59] <DArqueBishop> I suppose I should point out that if you're in a corporate environment and you don't have explicit permission to get around the firewall, your bosses will probably take a very dim view of what you're doing.
[16:10] <iron_host> d
[16:13] <boxrick1> Would anyone know how can I can make my build not look for an upstream source, ie a native type of build? : dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../cobbler_2.6.11.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}
[16:13] <boxrick1> dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b cloud-pbuilder-cobbler-2.6.11-xenial gave error exit status 255
[16:14] <ikonia> boxrick1: how do you expect to build without the tarball ?
[16:14] <nacc> boxrick1: native or not, you'd need the upstream tarball
[16:15] <boxrick1> So I have a bunch of source files, extracted and running the command within that sub directory.
[16:15] <boxrick1> Before I manually created that tarball just to satisfy this
[16:15] <boxrick1> What you are saying is I should store it as a tarball?
[16:15] <Slacko64> hey hey
[16:16] <Slacko64> Is there a way to install and run a full Ubuntu OS from a USB flash drive?  I need an OS to run on a laptop without a working hard drive and I'm tired of messing with puppy linux
[16:16] <burritomafia> Hello?
[16:16] <nacc> boxrick1: yes, debian packaging expects tarballs
[16:16] <k1l_> Slacko64: you can either use a persistent live usb or install onto a usb if its big enough
[16:16] <boxrick1> I think my problem here lies with the fact my source contains the debian directory. When infact they should be separate entities?
[16:17] <nacc> boxrick1: i believe i have a ppa for cobbler, fyi
[16:17] <nacc> boxrick1: if you want to ping me on #cobbler
[16:17] <Slacko64> how do I do that?
[16:18] <ducasse> Slacko64: sure, just install to a usb stick like you would install to a hard drive
[16:18] <Slacko64> and it saves and all that too?
[16:18] <k1l_> Slacko64: make another usb as live-usb and choose the big usb in the installer as install target
[16:18] <Slacko64> ohh ok
[16:18] <Slacko64> I don't have to save session like in Puppy linux?
[16:19] <burritomafia> Hello?
[16:19] <k1l_> no, this way its a full install. but it takes around 10GB size. so you need a usb pendrive that is big enough
[16:19] <burritomafia> Am i in an irc channel?
[16:20] <dritslem> yes..
[16:20] <Slacko64> My USB is 8gb.  What about Lubuntu?  would that work better?
[16:20] <burritomafia> Oh... Hi!
[16:20] <burritomafia> This is my first time doing this sweet
[16:20] <dritslem> haha
[16:20] <dritslem> welcome
[16:20] <burritomafia> lol you all have a good day :D
[16:20] <k1l_> Slacko64: the other way would be a live system, where changes are saved. this takes less space, but the whole system loads to the ram. so that has some limitations.
[16:20] <k1l_> Slacko64: yes, i would suggest using Lubuntu. and not making a swap
[16:21] <Slacko64> are there any guides online for what I'm looking to do with Lubuntu?  I don't even know what to google
[16:22] <k1l_> Slacko64: well, make a regular live-lubuntu onto a second usb pendrive. then start that, choose manual partitioning. make only on ext4 for /, no swap or other parititons. install. reboot, done.
[16:23] <SchrodingersScat> Slacko64: not sure.  If you have two usb drives then you can make one the LiveUSB drive and then install to another usb drive, at least last I checked.  VMs are also good for this if you can passthru your USB to the VM and then you don't have to boot into a live environment
[16:25] <burritomafia> Hi im back
[16:25] <burritomafia> This is great im talking through a terminal
[16:25] <burritomafia> This is the discord killer ngl
[16:26] <burritomafia> Anyone know if r/pcmasterrace has a irc channel?
[16:26] <k1l_> !alis | burritomafia
[16:26] <Pici> burritomafia: most of reddit's channels are on snoonet, not freenode.
[16:26] <burritomafia> Ahh I see
[16:26] <k1l_> burritomafia: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only. for network questions you might want to ask in the #freenode channel :)
[16:26] <burritomafia> Im an irc noob so run it through me what is freenode?
[16:27] <nicomachus> burritomafia: /join #freenode
[16:27] <Pici> !freenode | burritomafia
[16:27] <burritomafia> ok ill try that thanks guys!
[16:27] <Pici> hrm, I guess we need to update the freenode urls...
[16:29] <iman550> hi
[16:33] <ducasse> Pici: completely ot; the topic in #ubuntu-server needs an update (the last sentence)
[16:33] <Pici> ducasse: I'll take a look, thanks.
[16:34] <ashik> hi , i am facing trouble installing ubuntu 16.04 alongside win10
[16:35] <ashik>  have turned off secure boot OFF , but when i try to boot from usb , and click on INSTALL linux option , it shows the error "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)"
[16:36] <ashik> any help ? i want to use ubuntu
[16:40] <pkhaxorz> hey. I've been having really really stupid issues with nautilus
[16:41] <pkhaxorz> for instance, when I open a file, Nautilus closes, unless its something like a text file that gets opened in another tab of sublime
[16:41] <pkhaxorz> I dislike this behavior and it's stupid
[16:43] <pkhaxorz> is there any way to fix this?
[16:48] <gabriel_> HOla
[16:48] <gabriel_> Necesito ayuda
[16:49] <gabriel_> NO puedo borrar una carpeta que quiero borrar, y tiene un candadito arriba
[16:49] <Pici> !es | gabriel_
[16:50] <darkdrgn2k> when entering an HTTP server, what path do i put in
[16:50] <darkdrgn2k> (assuming the iso is copied to /UBUNTU/ISO/
[16:52] <Southern_Gentlem> /var/www/html/blah
[17:01] <ankush_> start
[17:29] <Sik> Does anybody else have trouble running LyX on Ubuntu 16.04.1? It just gets stuck without ever opening the window (checked in the terminal, it just hangs). It worked fine on 14.04.
[17:29] <Sik> Tried uninstalling and reinstalling just in case some dependency broke, but nope still hangs up.
[17:33] <OerHeks> Sik, what version do you try to install? the standard in the repos is 2.1.43, website gives a ppa for 2.2.1 ... https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnUbuntu
[17:35] <Sik> Repo
[17:38] <rightonyourtail> Sik: can you run "lyx -version"?
[17:47] <Kurogane> Hi, i've a problem, i installed nginx and when i run systemctl status nginx give me this error 'Failed to get properties: No such interface '' '
[17:48] <Pici> Kurogane: how did you install nginx and what Ubuntu release are you on?
[17:49] <posi> What's some good guides for high performance Fs with billions of files
[17:49] <Kurogane> Pici, apt-get install nginx and 16.04.1
[17:52] <guvn0r> systemctl status used on fedora/rhel dont think its native to ubuntu
[17:52] <senaps> key_load_public: No such file or directory while connecting to ssh
[17:52] <Pici> guvn0r: we use systemd on 16.04 now
[17:52] <Pici> Kurogane: Is that error message coming from the systemctl command, or is nginx reporting that as its status?
[17:52] <guvn0r> we do? lemme look thanks
[17:52] <senaps> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/311665/key-load-public-no-such-file-or-directory-while-connecting-to-ssh    the question and thing's i have done until now.
[17:54] <Kurogane> Pici, nginx, and systemctl give me Failed to list units: No such method 'ListUnitsFiltered'
[17:55] <Pici> Kurogane: is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[17:55] <Kurogane> upgrade from 14.04
[17:55] <alpha5> when i get error like "no version information available"?
[17:56] <bekks> alpha5: When doing what?
[17:56] <alpha5> running application (created by me)?
[17:57] <bekks> alpha5: Can you be more precise please?
[17:57] <senaps> anybody know about my ssh problem ppl?
[17:57] <alpha5> can i get this error when i build and create binary on ubuntu 16.04 and try to run on ubuntu 14.04?
[17:58] <bekks> alpha5: Sure you can. Depends on what you have done to your system.
[17:59] <alpha5> bekks: https://ibin.co/2vNda1FLKdlw.png this is the error i got.
[18:00] <bekks> alpha5: you dont have the dependencies installed, needed by your application
[18:01] <alpha5> bekks: I checked dependencies by running ldd command and send it with application as shared libarary.
[18:01] <Gallowglass> I'm working to get a printer set up, but it's looking like CUPS isn't sending print messages and just marking jobs complete. Digging reveals "Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip"
[18:01] <bekks> alpha5: the error messages clearly state the opppsite.
[18:02] <Pici> Kurogane: can you pastebin the results of: apt-cache policy systemd-sysv
[18:03] <Kurogane> Pici, http://paste.ee/p/LPLYJ
[18:05] <Pici> Kurogane: Does issuing a sudo systemctl daemon-reload  help?
[18:06] <alpha5> bekks: Sorry I used LD_LIBRARY_PATH= $PWD/Qt_Libraries instead of LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD/Qt_Libraries. But now i get error segmentation fault(core dumped)
[18:06] <Kurogane> Pici, nop
[18:06] <bekks> alpha5: So your shipped libraries dont match the target system.
[18:07] <alpha5> bekks: sorry i dont getting you.
[18:07] <bekks> alpha5: the libraries you sent with your application cant be used on the target system.
[18:08] <alpha5> bekks: now what can i do . It run well on ubuntu 16.04 (development pc)
[18:08] <Pici> Kurogane: I'm not really sure then,you may want to ask more here and wait for someone else to reply or ask in #systemd
[18:09] <bekks> alpha5: Do not ship libraries, but creat an install package (.deb) which pulls in the required libraries, on the target system.
[18:09] <Kurogane> Pici, anyways no big deal, can you give how sudoers work? i really not understand i do this, i just want to run the command and not ask password. http://paste.ee/p/shKsX
[18:09] <devan> okay for some reason, after setting up an encrypted swap, ubuntu won't shutdown without a hang showing "failed to stop /dev/dm-0" every time I try to encrypt the swap. And then after every boot it, it wants to hang trying to fchck. is this a bug or am I doing swap wrong?
[18:10] <alpha5> bekks: can you elaborate more how?
[18:10] <devan> i've been advised not to add the /dev/mapper/cryptswap in fstab because systemd is supposed to auto mount it, but it doesn't..
[18:10] <darkdrgn2k> how cna i specify a custom path to the installation software isntead of using a mirror in a cfg file?
[18:11] <bekks> alpha5: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[18:11] <devan> i've checked dmsetup info on dm-0 and it returns as the encrypted swap
[18:11] <devan> and it works once I swappon
[18:12] <devan> but does that mean I have to manually swapoff before shutting down?
[18:14] <devan> I don't know why lvm is apart of my situation, as I'm not raiding nor using more than one hdd/partition.. Do I even need lvm to use luks?
[18:14] <Bashing-om> devan: As a thought, have you verified that the UUIDs in /etc/fstab file aggree with ' sudo blkid ' ?
[18:15] <devan> yes but after adding it in and taking it out of fstab, its still the same thing on every shutdown
[18:15] <devan> so its like, fstab whether its in or not doesn't change
[18:15] <cscf> devan, normally you put lvm inside the luks so that you can put swap, etc inside it as well.
[18:16] <devan> yes but only.. I didn't because I have no use for lvm. is it safe to remove lvm out of 16.04?
[18:16] <devan> or did it get integrated into luks
[18:18] <devan> i've tried putting the swap in as /dev/sda6, i've tried UUID=[uuid]
[18:18] <devan> i've tried both encrypted swap and non
[18:19] <devan> still getting this dm-0 failed to stop during shutdown
[18:19] <mikeymop> does anyone know how appimage compares to snaps?
[18:19] <mikeymop> besides phone support on snaps? I'm curious why Krita opted for appimage instead of flatpaq or snap
[18:20] <pkkm> hi, what's the recommended amount of video memory when running Ubuntu 16.04 in a virtual machine? VirtualBox's default is 12 MB, but it seems a bit low.
[18:20] <sdexter> I have a 14.04 system where I wish to encrypt a volume that will hold data, besides encfs what are the best options.
[18:21] <srdjan_> I have no sound coming to the Right channel on the back connector of the motherboard on Line Out. aplay -l shows: card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC1150 Analog [ALC1150 Analog], speaker-test -c , pacmd list-sinks shows:  volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB   Any ideas?
[18:21] <bekks> pkkm: thats enough.
[18:22] <pkkm> bekks: is it going to smoothly run Unity?
[18:22] <devan> why am I getting a PARTUUID on blkid /dev/sda6?
[18:22] <srdjan_> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS  btw
[18:22] <bekks> pkkm: No, but thats due to the limited 3d capabilities of a vm, not because of the video ram.
[18:23] <pkkm> bekks: ok, I won't increase the memory then, thanks
[18:29] <dafhew> why doesn't my process exit?
[18:30] <AndChat204276> Hi
[18:30] <AndChat204276> Test
[18:31] <AndChat204276> Can anyone read this?
[18:31] <dr4c4n_> hi, I'm having issues with an ubuntu install, I've upgraded to the latest kernel to try to get rid of a fan always running issue, but I lost my desktop
[18:31] <Pici> yes
[18:31] <Pici> AndChat204276: we see you
[18:31] <dr4c4n_> what I mean is that I can still login, and I can get to a terminal session with ctrl-alt-f1, but I can't get my desktop
[18:31] <filippa> ciao
[18:31] <filippa> !list
[18:32] <devan> nobody knows why an encrypted swap bugs out on 16.04?
[18:32] <zeus_> guys
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> nevermind, after a second reboot, I'm able to get back into my desktop
[18:33] <zeus_> why in backbox the letters are bugged???
[18:33] <mikelp1973> yes
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> devan: I had problems setting up encrypted partitions from the 16.04.1 installers
[18:33] <dr4c4n_> on both xubuntu and ubuntu-gnome
[18:33] <Disaster_Area> hey so I want to run minecraft, what should I use to run java? Oracle or OpenJDK or something else? How would I download any of those?
[18:33] <Pici> !backbox | zeus_
[18:33] <bekks> !java | Disaster_Area
[18:34] <AndChat204276> Yay, thanks!
[18:34] <Disaster_Area> thanks
[18:36] <devan> im not adding the swap partition as a UUID in crypttab or fstab, something tells me the uuid get changed on boot up
[18:37] <Gallowglass> I'm working to get a printer set up, but it's looking like CUPS isn't sending print messages and just marking jobs complete. Digging reveals "Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip"
[18:39] <mikeymop> devan: sudo blkid?
[18:39] <mikeymop> too late.
[18:40] <dr4c4n_> so anyone with an asus zenbook ux501vw that has the runaway fan issue... solve it by upgrading the kernel to (I've used the latest one)
[18:41] <mikeymop> dr4c4n_: 4.8 fixed it for you?
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> mikeymop: yes
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> all I have done is done the regular xubuntu install
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> then did apt-get update
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> apt-get upgrade
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:41] <dr4c4n_> then ran through dpkg -i kernelfiles (the three of them)
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> for 4.8
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> it's been over a week and a half of buggering around with new laptop
[18:42] <dr4c4n_> and two reboots after kernel install and I've got desktop back, and can continue configuring
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> during this journey I also installed cpufrequtils
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> and the skylake dmc and gpu
[18:43] <dr4c4n_> from intel
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> those alone though didn't solve the issue, it was finally the latest kernel that stopped the crazy fan
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> does anyone know what kernel version will be coming out with ubuntu 16.10?
[18:44] <dr4c4n_> slashdot says 4.8
[18:45] <Bashing-om> dr4c4n_: Questions in respect to 16.10 better asked in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[18:47] <dr4c4n_> Bashing-om: Thanks, got my answer from slashdot.
[18:49] <ramrebol_> Hi. I downloaded a 64 bits ubuntu version: *amd64.iso  It is possible to install in a x86 laptop?  Or I need to download a 32 version of the iso?
[18:50] <nacc> ramrebol_: amd64 is just the name debian/ubuntu use for 64-bit intel-compatible laptops, amd or intel
[18:51] <dr4c4n_> ramrebol_: you should download the x86 version if your computer isn't 64 bit
[18:52] <ramrebol_> nacc: dr4c4n_ :   so, I will download the other version :/
[18:52] <ramrebol_> thanks!
[18:52] <dr4c4n_> no problem! Good luck with the installation
[19:05] <sharkman> if i opened up a new file with the command "vim" and typed some stuff up, but didnt save, and my computer shut down, how can i recover it?
[19:06] <meshuggah> hello
[19:07] <mikeymop> sharkman: i dont think yo ucan
[19:07] <ioria> sharkman, try vim -r
[19:08] <mikeymop> if you go to the locatino where you touched the file you could have the the file still there
[19:08] <mikeymop> ioria: til
[19:09] <Jordan_U> sharkman: "ls -a" in the same directory and you will hopefully see a file named '.yourfile.swp'.
[19:09] <sharkman> ty
[19:10] <ioria> sharkman, man vim   can be handy
[19:10] <Guest82718> hi
[19:10] <pantato> will my vps explode if i try installing bitchx for some nostalgia?
[19:10] <pantato> ubuntu 14.04
[19:10] <gustav___> How do I get bell working?
[19:11] <gustav___> It's supposed to be a CLI program that makes a sound in the speakers when I run it.
[19:12] <ubuntivity> Hello. I had 12.04 x86 installed, later I installed the x64 version of 12.04 for dual boot. the problem is I still have the bootloader of the old 12.04 (x86) and can't replace it with a new grub from the x64 system! how do I fix that?
[19:13] <cscf> ubuntivity, grub-install
[19:13] <ubuntivity> I tried using grub-install /dev/sda with no effect
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: it reported no errors
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: but when I rebooted, the same old grub is there
[19:13] <cscf> ubuntivity, but it doesn't boot?
[19:13] <ubuntivity> cscf: it boots normally
[19:13] <ubuntivity> but it is the one from the old system
[19:14] <cscf> ubuntivity, are you dual-booting Ubuntu 12.04 x86 & 64, or what?
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: When I perform changes and do update-grub, no changes actually take place
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: exactly
[19:14] <Pici> pantato: I'd avoid using unpatched unmaintained software, especially when it access the internet.  If you want a cli IRC experience, I suggest using irssi or weechat.
[19:14] <cscf> ubuntivity, do you only have one drive (sda) ?
[19:14] <ubuntivity> cscf: yes, only sda
[19:15] <cscf> ubuntivity, do you have any separate /boot partitions on either?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: no
[19:15] <vacho> I keep on setting my web servers file permissions to ubuntu:www-data, but when apache is creating the files the are owned by www-data www-data, which throws off my app.. can someone please help? How can I force apache to create files as ubuntu:www-data ?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: x86 is entirely on single partition
[19:15] <gustav___> There was some new release of irssi. Freenode adviced to get it. It's not in 12.04 yet. It's fine?
[19:15] <ubuntivity> cscf: x64 has separate /home directory
[19:16] <ubuntivity> cscf: is there a way to determine where is the current grub installed?
[19:16] <PotatoBoi> hey
[19:16] <ubuntivity> cscf: like from inside grub itself?
[19:16] <ioria> gustav___, you can install sox and play any sound in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/
[19:16] <mikeymop> a lot of people use irssi instead of weechat
[19:16] <mikeymop> is theer a reason?
[19:17] <cscf> ubuntivity, Well, generally the first entry will be the OS it was installed from, and os-prober will list other OS's later.
[19:17]  * ubuntivity uses weechat happily.
[19:17] <gustav___> ioria: I realized the host from which I want to run bell is not local.
[19:17] <cscf> mikeymop, they are used to it?  irssi has been around longer afaik
[19:17] <ubuntivity> cscf: the first entry is the x86 older system
[19:17] <gustav___> ioria: Can sox play non-locally?
[19:17] <ioria> gustav___,  never tried
[19:17] <akik> mikeymop: opinions are opinions. use what works best for you
[19:17] <ioria> gustav___,  i guess so
[19:17] <cscf> ubuntivity, that's strange, I'm not sure why it wouldn't just overwrite it when you install
[19:17] <PotatoBoi> could someone help me with drivers
[19:18] <ubuntivity> cscf: does it have to do with boot flag?
[19:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: There can be only one boot authority . What I do is disable /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober in the secondary OS. update that grub then ( excludes the primary ). AND in my primary update grub . such that a recipricating process is illiminated .
[19:18] <cscf> ubuntivity, boot flags aren't needed with grub
[19:19] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: why doesn't updating grub from the newer OS doesn't replace that?
[19:19] <mikeymop> cscf: that makes sense, if it's been around longer
[19:19] <mikeymop> cscf: just seeing if theres an enticing reason to switch over
[19:19] <ubuntivity> cscf: after installing my x64 system, I had messed up a little with my partitions
[19:19] <vacho> how do I force apache created files to have same permissions as it's folder?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: Depends on what the updating system reads form the other installed OS .
[19:19] <ubuntivity> cscf: and couldn't boot or even see grub unless I've set the boot flag to the x64 partition
[19:20] <cscf> vacho, you might want to try asking on an apache channel
[19:20] <PotatoBoi> how do install the nvidia drivers and configure them ?
[19:20] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: so, you suggest disabling os-prober of the old system?
[19:20] <cscf> PotatoBoi, use the GUI driver manager
[19:20] <PotatoBoi> cscf what about the livecd ?
[19:21] <cscf> PotatoBoi, Dash > "Additional Drivers"
[19:21] <cscf> PotatoBoi, what about it?
[19:21] <Bashing-om> PotatoBoi: That depends on the card and what driver you want to install as a match .
[19:21] <PotatoBoi> i can only run the livecd with nomodeset
[19:21] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces. Also, why are you installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS rather than Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? If it's because your hardware is old, then it's probably much better to use Xubuntu 14.04 than Ubuntu 12.04.
[19:21] <valeria> hola
[19:21] <PotatoBoi> that's the only issue keeping me installing
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> if i do install the correct nvidia propietary drivers
[19:22] <akik> vacho: if you chmod g+s the directory, everything under will inherit the group of the directory. use umask to set default mask for chmod
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> and reboot
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> does it work correctly ?
[19:22] <cscf> PotatoBoi, it should.  You could install to a USB if you want to test.
[19:22] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: what if I disable os-prober of x86 from within the x64 system then update-grub from the x64 system?
[19:22] <PotatoBoi> cscf how much space is required for a USB install ?
[19:22] <akik> vacho: i mean use umask to set the mask for newly created files
[19:23] <cscf> PotatoBoi, Ubuntu Desktop?  16 maybe?  It used to fit on 8 but I don't think it does anymore.
[19:23] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: using 12.04 is a matter of personal preference. about bootscriptinfo I'll do it in a moment
[19:23] <PotatoBoi> cscf Ubuntu Desktop
[19:23] <cscf> ubuntivity, well 12.04 isn't supported much longer, you know
[19:24] <Bashing-om> ubuntivity: IF the "old system" is to be that secondary system then yes .. disable 30_os-prober in that install . Such that the new system controls what to boot .// Well to disable 30_os-prober you must have access to that file system , either booted or mounted from outside .
[19:24] <PotatoBoi> cscf got 20 gigs of empty space on the pendrive that i placed the iso into
[19:24] <PotatoBoi> used rufus
[19:25] <chaitime> sup
[19:25] <Mr_SinkOrSwim> Ahoy
[19:26] <Mr_SinkOrSwim> Another day in pradise :P
[19:26] <cscf> PotatoBoi, right, so if you want, you can either install it as persistent liveusb, or you can put the iso on something smaller and install to it.  Or, you know, just dual boot.
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> cscf need to be sure about drivers before dualbooting or installing
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> prefer to go with a persistent liveusb
[19:26] <PotatoBoi> see if everything works out then dualboot
[19:27] <vacho> cscf: I did, and I got it resolved..thank you for helping
[19:27] <ramrebol_> Now I'm trying to download a 32bits version of ubuntu from ubuntu.com (via torrent) but it's not downloading
[19:27] <ramrebol_> there exists some direct download to the 32 bits version?
[19:28] <cscf> ramrebol_, should be right next to the torrent download.
[19:28] <donchriscoe>  /msg nickserv id rabbit
[19:28] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Bashing-om: cscf: here is the pastebin of my bootinfoscript http://pastebin.com/4TvhMzk9
[19:28] <elias_a> ramrebol_: What do you mean? No data coming down to you?
[19:28] <akik> ramrebol_: http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/16.04.1/ select "i386"
[19:29] <ramrebol_> I mean, 0 seeds, no data comming down.
[19:30] <ramrebol_> thanks akik: with that problem solved :D
[19:30] <ramrebol_> cscf: (I don't know why I dont's see :/)
[19:30] <ramrebol_> thanks all
[19:31] <ubuntivity> Bashing-om: does removing x permission from os-prober enough to disable it?
[19:31] <Kurogane> Anyone can help me with this http://paste.ee/p/shKsX , i just want to run the command and without ask password.
[19:32]  * ubuntivity wonders: did I just see a nickserv password here?!!
[19:34] <B0toto> ?
[19:34] <PotatoBoi> cscf is it possible to install drivers on the liveusb
[19:35] <cscf> PotatoBoi, you should be able to, but they aren't persistent unless you specifically made a persistent USB
[19:36] <PotatoBoi> cscf to make it persistent i just select the usb and partition it as normal
[19:36] <PotatoBoi> and install the bootloader into it ?
[19:36] <Guest17168> question please,.....dose anyone know when there will be a fix for the rx480-hdmi problem
[19:37] <cscf> Guest17168, what problem?
[19:37] <Guest17168> no vid
[19:37] <cscf> PotatoBoi, well, that makes a full Ubuntu install, which works too.
[19:37] <Guest17168> i put the thing in, and fired it up,....no vid.
[19:38] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Bashing-om: cscf: gonna reboot and see
[19:38] <PotatoBoi> cscf thanks for all the help,i just have one question left
[19:38] <cscf> Guest17168, your first comment sounded like it was a known issue?
[19:38] <Guest17168> known issue,..It is.
[19:38] <Guest17168> Ive tryed a few ting to get it back up,....but to no avail
[19:39] <cscf> Guest17168, well then you should monitor the bug report for news.
[19:39] <Guest17168> Ive got several machines but my big machine, has the 480 in it,...Ide love to have it up too
[19:39] <PotatoBoi> cscf my resolution is bad when using the livecd due to using the drivers,if i install them on the livecd can i begin using the new drivers already ?
[19:39] <Guest17168> im just wondering if there will be some fix in the future for the 480
[19:40] <cscf> PotatoBoi, so, usually the cleanest way to make sure you're using new drivers properly is to reboot.  But if you install drivers on a livecd, they are lost on reboot.  lol.
[19:41] <PotatoBoi> cscf so it's impossible to do that ?
[19:41] <cscf> PotatoBoi, if you do a normal install to a USB, from another medium, then you can install things normally and it will be exactly like a normal system.
[19:41] <akik> Kurogane: does it help if you put in "user1 ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: NGINX_RESTART, NGINX_RELOAD"
[19:41] <PotatoBoi> cscf alrighty then,thanks !
[19:41] <Guest63988> icfconfig
[19:42] <Guest63988> hey guyz###
[19:43] <akik> Kurogane: don't know if this applies to you but "When multiple entries match for a user, they are applied in order.  Where there are multiple matches, the last match is used (which is not necessarily the most specific match)."
[19:48] <Kurogane> akik, nop, always ask password
[19:50] <dr4c4n_> I can't get encryption to work on any ubuntu 16.04.1 flavor
[19:51] <dr4c4n_> what I mean is, I do the installation and select disk encryption, then when I boot, it asks me for the disk encryption password, says it was setup successfully, then the boot hangs. Does anyone else have experience with this/
[19:54] <vacho>  /j #math
[19:56] <darkdrgn2k> for a local mirror can i just copy the data of the cd?
[19:59] <stanger> hi
[20:05] <dr4c4n_> hi there, I'm having issues with disk encryption, I can only login if I go to the recovery option in the grub menu first, how do I make my normal boot work?
[20:07] <Gallowglass> Still working my permissions problem on /var/spool/cups, found an item from 2013 where it had the wrong permissions, but how I do find a workaround?
[20:08] <guest245> Hi, Im running Ubuntu 16.04 and am running two monitors with an R9 380, one attached via HDMI, the other VGA. The HDMI monitor is active during boot and grub, but very rarely works in the OS 😞
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> guest245: have you got arandr
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> ?
[20:09] <dr4c4n_> sudo apt-get install arandr, you might be able to see both screens and activate / enable them using it
[20:12] <guest245> Thanks, Ill give it a shot
[20:13] <dr4c4n_> guest245: np, good luck
[20:14] <guest245> no luck, HDMI monitor indicates there is a feed from the cable, and sometimes flickers, but is black just like before 🙁
[20:15] <guest245> This is a fresh, updated install with amdgpu
[20:15] <dr4c4n_> guest245: can you see it in settings display?
[20:16] <dr4c4n_> and did you run arandr with sudo ?
[20:16] <guest245> What's even weirder is that sometimes it works fine, but its black 80% of the time
[20:16] <guest245> Yeah, I can see it and I've aligned it, and I tried arandr with sudo too
[20:17] <dr4c4n_> guest245: that would be my suggestion, the other thing is attempting to access the settings on the command line
[20:17] <dr4c4n_> with display:0 / display:1
[20:19] <guest245> I think this guy on Reddit is having the same problem as me, but no replies: https://m.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/4gtcw7/help_ubuntu_1604_dual_monitor_one_remains_black/
[20:22] <zackychan> Hi everybody, I have 2 SSD on my ubuntu server. I would like to mount a new partition on the unused /dev/sdb2 . Don't know how to do it
[20:23] <theShirbiny> 1- put a file system on /dev/sdb2 2- mount /dev/sdb2 /mountpoint
[20:23] <theShirbiny> make sure you don't have anything important on /dev/sdb2
[20:23] <cscf> zackychan, ^ And then put it into fstab, since presumably you want it to stay mounted when you reboot.
[20:24] <zackychan> mount /deux /dev/sdb2
[20:24] <zackychan> mount: special device /deux does not exist
[20:24] <k1l_> zackychan: the other way around
[20:25] <zackychan> mount /dev/sdb2 /deux
[20:25] <k1l_> mount /dev/sdb2 /deux #and make sure the directory /deux does exist
[20:25] <zackychan> mount: mount point /deux does not exist
[20:26] <daveomcd> when I type which qmake I get nothing and it tells me to install qtchooser... when I apt-get install qt chooser it says its already installed... how can i resolve this?
[20:27] <zackychan> I succeeded to mount /deux on /dev/sdb2     , now how can I be sure I don't use soft Raid on this ubuntu server ?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> !info qmake
[20:28] <theShirbiny> zackychan, how did you format /dev/sdb2?
[20:29] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: The correct package name ?
[20:29] <zackychan> theShirbiny , using ext4
[20:29] <zackychan>  theShirbiny  using mkfs
[20:30] <zackychan> with 90M inode
[20:30] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, I thought it was qmake? It's saying I need to install qtchooser so maybe thats it?
[20:31] <CrtxReavr> Everytime I log into my ubuntu server, I see a message that 2 packages can be updated. . . but when I do 'apt-get update' & 'apt-get upgrade' they never get updated.
[20:31] <k1l_> CrtxReavr: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:32] <Bashing-om> !info qt4-qmake | daveomcd
[20:33] <CrtxReavr> k1l_, what'd that do exactly?
[20:33] <daveomcd> ah i'll try that
[20:33] <theShirbiny> cool, I don't really know much about raid, I would guess type lsblk -fs and check if there's any mdadm or raid mentioned there
[20:33] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: :) .. maybe yes .
[20:33] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, actually i did it and it says it's already installed
[20:34] <k1l_> CrtxReavr: it loads a new package list from the servers and then installs all updates. some upgrades need to rmeove other packages or install new other packages. that doesnt work with "apt upgrade" alone.
[20:34] <CrtxReavr> k1l_, I see. . . thank you.
[20:35] <Jakey2> why do i get permission denied for http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217486/ even when i sudo
[20:35] <theShirbiny> CrtxReavr, also check if whatever script generating /etc/motd is working
[20:35] <Jakey2> works ok when i su
[20:35] <V7> Hello all :D
[20:35] <k1l_> Jakey2: the sudo doesnt get pushed behind the >
[20:35] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: And now, restate the issue as the correct package is identified .
[20:36] <k1l_> Jakey2: use echo and then | sudo tee
[20:36] <Jakey2> k1l_, thanks
[20:37] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: There is also : qt5-qmake/trusty-updates,trusty-security 5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu14.3 amd64 .
[20:37] <theShirbiny> Jakey2: try, sudo  "gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/server.conf.gz > /etc/openvpn/server.conf"
[20:39] <Guest92238>  hello, i try to install lxd with apt but apt install lxd hangs during configuration: lxd (2.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1~ppa1) wird eingerichtet ..
[20:39] <Guest92238> Fortschritt: [ 66%] [#############################################....
[20:39] <bipul> is sector=block ? or N number of sector constitute block ?
[20:39] <Guest92238> i try it with the default package and also with the ubuntu-lxc/lxd-stable ppa
[20:40] <Jakey2> theShirbiny, i get command not found
[20:41] <Bashing-om> !info lxd
[20:41] <theShirbiny> Jakey2: sorry, sudo sh -c "your commands"
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: ppa-purge the PPA .. ?
[20:42] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Guest92238
[20:42] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, I've installed both of those packages, however when I do `which qmake` it returns nothing - and when I try to install other software that it relies on it says... "Command 'qmake ' not available"
[20:43] <Guest92238> i try with out ppa (Version 2.0.4) from the default repro and 2.2 from the ppa
[20:43] <flyinprogrammer> is there an eta for when openssl  1.0.2i is going to be cut and pushed for xenial ?
[20:44] <Jakey2> is it good practice to include sudo sh -c "your commands" in a shell script?
[20:44] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: usually the version number is not increased but here is a patched version pushed
[20:44] <k1l_> !info openssl
[20:44] <cscf> Jakey2, if the script is intended to be run as non-root, and must do a few things as root, sure.
[20:44] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: As there are optional versions (installed ) .. explictly declare the package .. maybe as ' dpkg -l qt4-qmake ' . see what is actually installed ?
[20:45] <Jakey2> ok
[20:45] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_  ok, i'm just trying to get systems patched from today's advisory
[20:45] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: is there a reason why you ask?
[20:45] <cscf> Jakey2, just be very careful when writing any script that uses root, especially if you then use it on another machine or give it to somebody els.e
[20:45] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_  https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160922.txt
[20:45] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, ok thanks let me try that
[20:46] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3087-1/
[20:46] <Jakey2> cscf, sure
[20:46] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: Just "look'n" to see what is installed .
[20:46] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_ ah - thank you, sorry for being dumb, you are awesome
[20:46] <daveomcd> i got a bunch of text back ... is there a way to paste it to you?
[20:46] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: no problem. ubuntu.com/usn is where the security news are
[20:47] <flyinprogrammer> @k1l_ perfect, i will start following that, sorry for being a n00b
[20:47] <k1l_> flyinprogrammer: no need to apologize
[20:47] <daveomcd> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217525/
[20:48] <Guest92238> ppa removed
[20:48] <Guest92238> lxd (2.0.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1) wird eingerichtet ...
[20:48] <Guest92238> same error
[20:48] <Guest92238> freeze at 66%
[20:49] <daveomcd> I get information when doing qt4-qmake but that's the old version i dont want
[20:49] <Jakey2> how do i change specific lines in a config file programitally, is it using sed command?
[20:49] <Bashing-om> daveomcd: So " ii  qt5-qmake:amd64 " is installed . can not say else about others .. but presently the tool is qt5-qmake .
[20:49] <Guest92238> side node: "As LXD evolves quite rapidly, we recommend Ubuntu users use our PPA:" from https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/03/20/installing-lxd-and-the-command-line-tool/
[20:49] <cscf> Jakey2, sed is a good way to do that, yes
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Pastebin ' apt cache policy lxd ' . See what we can start finding out .
[20:52] <Guest92238> https://gist.github.com/0eac3cfd1b4df9bdc2c4f31f0e97ac05
[20:52] <OerHeks> Guest, old info, current lxd >   https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd and ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lxc/+archive/ubuntu/lxd-stable?field.series_filter=xenial
[20:53] <Gallowglass> I just wanted everyone to know that I've solved my printer issue! It turns out that the answer was to add $USER to the group lp: sudo usermod -a -G lp $USER
[20:54] <Gallowglass> And everyone is invited to the party. OerHeks has got the tab!!!!!
[20:56] <Jakey2> cscf, how would i go about changing a specific line in a config file with sed
[20:56] <cscf> Jakey2, do you want to detect a line and replace it, or change a word/bit of a line?
[20:56] <cscf> Jakey2, if you want to change a value, say, you can do: 'sed s/val=2/val=5/'
[20:57] <cscf> Once you've confirmed the result is what you want, add -i to edit in plac.e
[20:57] <Jakey2> cscf i want to uncomment a line
[20:57] <Jakey2> and change values
[20:58] <cscf> Jakey2, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24889346/sed-how-to-uncomment-a-line-that-contains-a-specific-string-inline-editing#24889374
[20:58] <cscf> I gtg now, however there is a lot of stuff online about sed.
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: System fully updated ? pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[20:59] <Guest92238> https://snag.gy/M4g3z2.jpg
[20:59] <Guest92238> yes
[20:59] <Jakey2> cscf, ok thanks
[21:00] <Bashing-om> !tab | Guest92238
[21:02] <Guest92238> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9427f038d980f1a1f4984f97a9851d98
[21:04] <Jakey2> say for example you wanted to provsion 100 ubuntu 16.04 desktops with specific firefox settings on each how would you do that?
[21:04] <Jakey2> for example with add blocker already installed?
[21:05] <classy_cameltoe> Is there a cmd that will shutdown my computer after say 30min?
[21:06] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: shutdown
[21:06] <arooni> anyway to find out where ubuntu installs npm and its assorted packages to ?
[21:06] <classy_cameltoe> K1l but that will shut it down right away.
[21:06] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: no
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Show now ' LANG=C;sudo apt install lxd ' .
[21:07] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: you can give it a timeframe
[21:07] <dax> classy_cameltoe: you can specify a delay, see man shutdown
[21:07] <classy_cameltoe> shutdown -hP 30
[21:07] <classy_cameltoe> oh cool, thx
[21:07] <Guest92238> same
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Please show - I do not do well in guessing games ..
[21:08] <classy_cameltoe> Is there a way to at least try xfce on Ubuntu? Can't really get my head rapped around Unity. Boss said I could give xfce a try.
[21:08] <Guest92238> https://snag.gy/Lc2rMO.jpg
[21:09] <xangua> classy_cameltoe: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:10] <classy_cameltoe> xangua will that work after I have installed Ubuntu with the default desktop?
[21:10] <k1l_> Guest92238: seems like a postinstall script fails for lxd?
[21:11] <k1l_> classy_cameltoe: yes. you can install several desktops on ubuntu and change on the login screen
[21:11] <Bashing-om> classy_cameltoe: Burn a live disk - http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ . Try it and see .
[21:11] <Guest92238> how do I find that out?
[21:11] <classy_cameltoe> k1l_, Bashing-om thx guys
[21:14] <Guest92238> btw: 4.7.4-040704-generic if its usefull
[21:15] <Guest92238> dmesg:
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.369421] upstart: lxd post-start process (13799) terminated with status 1
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Guest92238: Maybe try and purge what is currently installed; what returns ls -al /var/cache/apt/archives/lxd* ' ?
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.428036] upstart: lxd main process (13994) terminated with status 127
[21:15] <Guest92238> [352146.428041] upstart: lxd main process ended, respawning
[21:16] <k1l_> Guest92238: seems like its trying to start lxd while its installing it
[21:16] <Guest92238> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3585020 Aug 22 13:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/lxd_2.0.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:16] <Bashing-om> !info lxd
[21:17] <OerHeks> 4.7.4 .. are you on mint / elementary ?
[21:17] <Guest92238> OerHeks: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7.4/
[21:17] <k1l_> Guest92238: can you boot an original kernel?
[21:18] <k1l_> mainline kernels can miss some patches.
[21:18] <Guest92238> yes .. still installed but need newer kernels for btrfs fixes
[21:19] <OerHeks> it can be a bumpy ride mainline kernel, in combination the the lxd ppa ...
[21:20] <Jakey2> when i do man ex dont get anything
[21:20] <Jakey2> when i do "man ex" dont get anything
[21:20] <Jakey2> ex(1) a command on ubuntu?
[21:22] <OerHeks> Jakey2, they are all part of the nvi package,  ex, vi, view - text editors > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/nvi.1.html
[21:22] <Jakey2> OerHeks, ok thanks
[21:23] <Guest92238> !info lxc2
[21:26] <Jakey2> how would you setup 100 16.04 ubuntu boxes with firefox setup a certain way on each box?
[21:26] <Jakey2> say for example you wanted them loaded automatically with add blocker
[21:27] <Jakey2> or to not rember history
[21:27] <Jakey2> *remember
[21:28] <Guest92238> new information: if i stop the lxd service, the installation will complete
[21:28] <Guest92238> but i'm unable to start the lxd service
[21:29] <Guest92238> lxd main process (20196) terminated with status 127
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: For all users, or for a specific user?
[21:31] <Jakey2> for all users
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: What will these boxes be used for?
[21:31] <Jakey2> desktops
[21:31] <Jakey2> for users
[21:31] <Jakey2> say for example i have a school
[21:32] <Jakey2> i want these boxes provisioned a certain way
[21:32] <DArqueBishop> Jakey2: Puppet.
[21:32] <Jakey2> can puppet provision firefox in a certain way
[21:32] <x29a> hi, are those instructions still up2date? i would have created an md over both harddrive devices and then the partitions within the md... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[21:32] <Jakey2> ?
[21:34] <Jakey2> DArqueBishop, ?
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Jakey2: You can add the appropriately configured .mozilla/firefox/ directory to /etc/skel/ so that newly created users default to having that firefox profile.
[21:35] <Jakey2> Jordan_U, how would you load them with addblocker for example
[21:36] <Jakey2> or would you need to setup once and just clone the machines
[21:36] <Jakey2> ?
[21:36] <tgm4883> Jakey2: you would just need to set it up once and copy that directory to /etc/skel
[21:37] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[21:37] <OerHeks> now a mass-join plz
[21:38] <tomreyn> there you go
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> wello
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> i am back
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> i have noticed my usb has booted as legacy
[21:49] <PotatoBoi> altho my boot is legacy+uefi
[21:50] <PotatoBoi> could i just switch to UEFI only ?
[22:22] <devan> ok I'm running ubuntu-mate, is this the proper channel for ubuntu-mate?
[22:22] <k1l_> devan: you can ask in here. this is general ubuntu support
[22:23] <dax> devan: here or #ubuntu-mate works
[22:24] <devan> I just cant seem to get rid of these unpredictable stop/start jobs! I'm sorry but after many attempts and trying to tackle the problem, I have no choice to conclude: systemd is far from stable unless there's a way to get it to work with my encrypted swap
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> saaalve!!!
[22:26] <PotatoBoi> devan why is your swap encrypted
[22:26] <PotatoBoi> xdccMule[6414DS] br ?
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> no
[22:26] <xdccMule[6414DS]> Ciao PotatoBoi
[22:27] <devan> nobody, i've read on google has seemed to been able to pinpoint the exact cause other than it's a "systemd bug" or so I've been getting back from google's search results.
[22:27] <k1l_> devan: if you state the exact issue people could have a look
[22:27] <PotatoBoi> but why did you encrypt your swap
[22:27] <devan> PotatoBoi because I want it encrypted?
[22:27] <PotatoBoi> if that floats your boat
[22:28] <devan> K1l That's problem: the exact issue. it can't be found not be me or anyone having these major delays in boot up or shutdown..
[22:28] <devan> so Ive read
[22:28] <k1l_> devan: are you making this so difficult to help you on purpose?
[22:29] <devan> The better question is: why is systemd giving problems with luks?
[22:29] <k1l_> "i use ubuntu ..... my issue is...... i get the following errors....."
[22:29] <k1l_> devan: so you have a too long boot up?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> devan: No, that really isn't a better question. Please pastebin the output of "journalctl -b -2".
[22:31] <devan> somehow when I create an encrypted swap on say.. /dev/sda6, I call it /dev/mapper/cryptswap, right? add it into fstab and crypttab as instructed by online help, but then for some reason, on every bootup, cryptswap has a complete different UUID, according to blkid. I dont understand that. this was not an issue in 14.04
[22:32] <k1l_> so far i have not heard people arguing luks doesnt work anymore with 16.04.
[22:33] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> I ran a commaond to delete old kernels that I found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-old-kernels  and now I can't connect to the internet.  I run ubuntu 14.04 on that computer (sitting next to me now). Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:33] <devan> i do "/dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256" and it shows the first two<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and then NetworkManager-wait-online.service, and many other services
[22:33] <devan> i mean
[22:34] <devan> systemd-analyze blame
[22:34] <devan> didn't copy that right
[22:34] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> dpkg -l linux-{image,headers}-* | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | egrep '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+' | grep -v $(uname -r) | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge  <-- From the page linked above ^
[22:34] <devan> Jordan_U one moment please
[22:34] <k1l_> me-0kjIAG2lin9: can you get that machine on lan-cable? if so try to make sure that "linux-generic" is installed
[22:35] <Jordan_U> devan: Where does /dev/urandom come into this?
[22:35] <k1l_> devan: please put the the logifles or output on paste.ubuntu.com . dont leave stuff out you think is not important
[22:35] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> k1l_ : I'll try that
[22:35] <devan> Jordan_U I made a copy and paste error
[22:36] <devan> Jordan_U: boot ID has no effect, no persistent journal was found
[22:37] <devan> Jordan_U in crypttab is crypt_swap /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap
[22:38] <Jordan_U> devan: sudo mkdir /var/log/journal/ # This will enable persistant journalctl logs
[22:38] <devan> in fstab its: /dev/mapper/crypt_swap                      none   swap    sw 0 0
[22:39] <devan> ok I added that directory in
[22:40] <Jordan_U> devan: Then please Configure everything in a way that you expect it to work, then reboot and pastebin the complete output of "journalctl" (if you run it interactively it will be paged, make sure you pipe to pastebinit or redirect to a file to get the full contents).
[22:40] <devan> ok so when I have those both set that way: crypttab and fstab and swappon /dev/mapper/crypt_swap, it works until I shutdown and bootup
[22:41] <devan> okay i'll return in a minute for that.. and thanks jordan for your patience from my craziness
[22:48] <devan> ok im back and unfortunately journalcrl -b -2 still returns "Data from the specified boot (-2) is not available: No such boot ID in journal"
[22:50] <devan> so basically for reasons unknown, /dev/dm-0 and /dev/dm-1 isn't shutting down but also I dont have lvm set up as I dont have raid
[22:50] <ubuntivity> hello everyone. How can I determine if my GRUB is installed on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> do fdisk -l
[22:52] <PotatoBoi> and paste the output here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:52] <nacc> ubuntivity: /dev/sda is a disk, /dev/sda1 is a partition on that disk
[22:53] <ubuntivity> nacc: I know that. But I'm suspecting that my current GRUB is loading from /dev/sda1 rather than /dev/sda
[22:53] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity MBR or GPT ?
[22:53] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> k1l_I can not connect via ethernet cable. uname -r lists <IP_ADDRESS>-generic as its only line of output and ls /boot shows the same in it's contents. sudo ifconfig lists only lo (no eth0 and no wlan0). Whether I run sudo ifconfig eth0 up or I run sudo ifconfig wlan0 up - I get the same response from the terminal : "*: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" . sudo rfkill list gives no output at all.\
[22:54] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: MBR. here is my fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/2sAAHTeg
[22:54] <Jordan_U> devan: That's because you haven't booted twice with a persistant journal yet (and why the second time I asked for just the complete output of "journalctl").
[22:54] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity it seems you installed grub in /dev/sda1
[22:55] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity try to cd /boot and do ls
[22:57] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: ls /boot gives http://pastebin.com/Yp9TjAzX
[22:57] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity alright,so GRUB is installed on /boot
[22:57] <devan> Jordan_U: I'm afraid I just understand what you're asking
[22:57] <devan> I just don't*
[22:57] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity you just need to know if /dev/sda1 is mounted as boot or not
[22:58] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: how to do that?
[22:58] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity try doing cfdisk
[22:58] <PotatoBoi> cfdisk shows you the partition table and what everything's mounted as
[22:59] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: it gives me FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap
[22:59] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: any simpler alternative ?
[22:59] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity to awnser your question grub is installed on /boot
[22:59] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> ANyone?
[22:59] <PotatoBoi> but you need to find out what boot is mounted as
[23:00] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: /boot is a directory in /dev/sda1
[23:00] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: so is it /dev/sda1 that GRUB is installed on?
[23:00] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity mhm
[23:00] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity if you delete /dev/sda1 it causes your PC to become unbootable
[23:01] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: my issue is: I have 2 versions of Ubuntu, the older is x86 and the newer is x64
[23:01] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity alright,what about it
[23:01] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: the GRUB that appears is of the older x86 one
[23:01] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity i don't understand
[23:02] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: when I run grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub from within my x64 OS it does nothing
[23:02] <PotatoBoi> oooh
[23:02] <PotatoBoi> did you log in as root ?
[23:02] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: I use sudo
[23:03] <PotatoBoi> ubuntivity what output it gives you when you run grub-install /dev/sda
[23:03] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: it says no errors reported.
[23:04] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please run boot info script, https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:04] <ubuntivity> PotatoBoi: here is it http://pastebin.com/Q9mScX7V
[23:05] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: here is it http://pastebin.com/Q9mScX7V
[23:05] <ubuntivity> pardon me, PotatoBoi
[23:06] <ubuntivity> So, Jordan_U. what do you say?
[23:07] <_VXx>  0;
[23:08] <devan> ok journalctl -b -2 is scrolling but not all of it, just partial. how do I get the whole report to a txt?
[23:09] <ubuntivity> my info says "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of
[23:09] <ubuntivity>     the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks
[23:09] <ubuntivity>     for (,msdos5)/boot/grub on this drive."
[23:09] <ubuntivity> why does it look for (,msdos5) rather than (,msdos1) ??
[23:10] <craigify> greetings.  I have a software package that looks for -lsystemd-daemon but it doesn't seem to resolve on Ubuntu 16.04.  libsystemd0 and libsystemd-dev are installed, and I'm kind of stuck at the moment.
[23:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts". (using http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ).
[23:12] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23217996/
[23:12] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: What is the output of "readlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/7e17232a-d94d-40fd-a8bb-f88e8c01ceb1"?
[23:13] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: ../../sda1
[23:13] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> So I ren this command I got from : http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-oldp-kernels    to delet old kernels and now my networking is borked!      I can not connect via ethernet cable. uname -r lists <IP_ADDRESS>-generic as its only line of output and ls /boot shows the same in it's contents. sudo ifconfig lists only lo (no eth0 and no wlan0). Whether I run sudo ifconfig eth0up or I run sudo ifconf
[23:14] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> Is there anyhone would could help?
[23:14] <PotatoBoi> me-0kjIAG2lin9 don't know a lot about networking
[23:15] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> That computer is the only good computer in the house - this one I'm typing to you on is a complete pos (I need that other computer working)
[23:15] <PotatoBoi> me-0kjIAG2lin9 i would help you right now but i have to go rn
[23:15] <PotatoBoi> see you all
[23:16] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: um, that one-liner seems ... bad
[23:16] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: what do you suggest??
[23:16] <nacc> i mean not ideal, at least
[23:17] <devan> ok im at a loss to how to get journalctl to a log.txt
[23:17] <Jordan_U> devan: journalctl > /tmp/log.txt
[23:17] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> nacc: yeah. dunno what to do no tho
[23:17] <devan> Jordan_U, omg thanks!
[23:18]  * ubuntivity stares at the wall, with hope!
[23:19] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> I'm wondering if upbgrading from a burned dvd (I'm on 14.04 now) to the latest version would somehow pull in whatever is missing or broken and leave me with a nice useable system - but would I lose personal data in the process?
[23:19] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[23:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda" (you can do so automatically by making sure pastebinit is installed and running "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit").
[23:20] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: why did you need to delete old kernels by hand? you really shouldn't run anything as root that you don't fully undestand and  know how to undo, ideally
[23:20] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: it's hard to know what exactly you removed from what you've described so far
[23:21] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218016/
[23:21]  * ubuntivity feels grateful for the tip about pastebinit
[23:21] <nacc> me-0kjIAG2lin9: you may want to simply reinstall, but someone maybe to help you recover your current system. Depending your partitioning choices, you may be ableto keep your personal data on reinstall
[23:21] <devan> too massive for pastebin
[23:22] <bob23> is there a way to bring up the vim options in vim
[23:22] <bob23> ?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: grub-install is installing for UEFI, not BIOS. Which is interesting, since it should only be doing that if you are currently booted via UEFI.
[23:22] <me-0kjIAG2lin9> nacc: I think I'm going to try that and hope for the best ( a reinstall ). thax
[23:23] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: How can I determine the way I'm booted via??
[23:24] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: does that have to do with AHCI vs. Compatible modes for S-ATA?
[23:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: It might actually just be because you're using an ancient Ubuntu with an ancient grub. My guess is that you have grub-efi installed but not grub-pc. Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub".
[23:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: No.
[23:25] <adamsilver> Hi guys - /root/.bashrc is not being sourced, why?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> adamsilver: You shouldn't be logging in as root, and that would be the only time that /root/.bashrc should be sourced.
[23:25] <devan> forget it... see you guys later
[23:26] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: it is true that grub-efi is installed!
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: I'd suggest you [ cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc ] as yourself if you're looking to reset your .bashrc to defaults
[23:27] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218028/
[23:27] <adamsilver> Jordan_U / SonikkuAmerica: I want to remain logged in as root.
[23:27] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: what if I'm actually booted via UEFI? How can I ever know?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: sudo apt-get install grub-pc # Which might also remove grub-efi, which would be good.
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: In Ubuntu, there's absolutely no reason to ever log in as root
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !root | adamsilver
[23:28] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: You're not, since you don't even have an EFI System Partition, but you could check by running "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" .
[23:29] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: your intelligent one-liner outputs BIOS
[23:29] <adamsilver> SonikkuAmerica: I am not logged in as root for Ubuntu itself. I am using paramiko.org to build the server via Python code. I can't edit root owned files via Paramiko if I am not connected as root (sudo doesn't work with their SFTP client)
[23:30] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: I'm going to install grub-pc and see. Are there any possible problems?
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> adamsilver: That's an interesting use case you have there... maybe #ubuntu-server might help
[23:31] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: and would I need to run grub-install and update-grub again after installation?
[23:32] <Fione> Hello.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: It's always possible for there to be other problems, but I don't expect any. I will be gone for a while, but I'll be back for a short time in about 45 minutes, and maybe back longer in a few hours.
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: can you wait for, say, 4 minutes??!
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: just long enough for me to see the results!
[23:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: The installation of grub-pc should do that automatically, and it would be a good test to be sure that the grub-pc package is configured correctly.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntivity: I'll quickly check back in in 5-10 minutes.
[23:34] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: OK, my grub-pc has reconfigured itself, I'll be rebooting in a moment to see the results
[23:37] <CodeMouse92> How do I point curl.cainfo in php.ini to use the certificates installed on Ubuntu? I'm not sure what the bundle .crt for that is
[23:37] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Hello again. It successfully worked :) although it booted a little slower this time with no plymouth bootsplash displayed :/
[23:37] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: Thanks for your thorough follow up and effective diagnosis and solution
[23:38] <ubuntivity> Jordan_U: as for the bootsplash and the stuff, I'll spend some hours googling here and there
[23:38] <adamsilver> SonikkuAmerica: Ah, it turned out Ubuntu reads /root/.profile not .bashrc when logging as root. Thanks for pointing out /etc/skel/.bashrc. I copied it over to .profile and now I see colors and stuff, too :)
[23:51] <ChrisGriden> Ubuntu 16.4LTS keeps losing power (somewhat) randomly on Toshiba P755-S5391. I'm trying to troubleshoot the temperatures with 'sensors' but I'm not getting much info from 'sensors'
[23:53] <ChrisGriden> Sensors returns this output.. paste.ubuntu.com/23218117/
[23:56] <ChrisGriden> pwmconfig returns http://paste.ubuntu.com/23218122/


[02:14] <xubuntu34i> I got my chat rooms setup :) go american muscle!
[02:17] <xubuntu34i> got my computer setup to be a workstation, now i just need to take it to a safe place where i can keep it on all the time
[12:51] <sponge> Hello
[12:52] <diogenes_> hello
[12:53] <sponge> Recently, on Xubuntu 16.04, whenever I change the layout, my second layout has scroll-lock enabled. I cannot disable the scroll-lock there. It prevents me from navigating with the arrows/pageup/pagedown. Is there a way to fix this?
[16:11] <niceGuy00> how to increase font size in chat room of pidgin?
[16:14] <niceGuy00> how to increase font size in chat room of pidgin IRC?
[16:19] <krytarik> niceGuy00: Apparently you can't - it just uses the system-wide font settings.
[16:20] <niceGuy00> krytarik: maybe i can modify some config file?
[18:25] <sponge> Recently, on Xubuntu 16.04, whenever I change the layout, my second layout has scroll-lock enabled. I cannot disable the scroll-lock there. It prevents me from navigating with the arrows/pageup/pagedown. Is there a way to fix this?
[18:28] <ondondil> Hello
[18:29] <ondondil> Is it possible in Xubuntu 16.04 to hide the titlebar only in one program when its window is maximized but not in the rest of the programs?
[18:49] <well_laid_lawn> ondondil:  if no one here knows someone in #sfce might
[18:50] <well_laid_lawn> ondondil:  if no one here knows someone in #xfce might
[18:51] <ondondil> okay, thanks well_laid_lawn
[19:50] <kristien> Hello everybody