[10:31] <cfhowlett> bmxscott1993, see this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[10:33] <ObrienDave> back
[10:34] <LrdArc> how can I connect to authenticated proxy that contains "@" on username??
[10:35] <[Gentoo]> LrdArc: have you tried it in quotes?
[10:36] <LrdArc> not yet
[10:38] <ObrienDave> bmxscott1993... try ubuntu-defaults-builder
[10:39] <lesshaste> I got this message " Because of incompatible library changes, the upgrade of the GNU libc library will leave you unable to authenticate to these programs. You should arrange for these programs to be restarted or stopped before continuing this upgrade"
[10:39] <lesshaste> how do I do that?
[10:39] <bmxscott1993> ok
[10:39] <lesshaste> "One or more running instances of xscreensaver or xlockmore have been detected on this system."
[10:39] <lesshaste> that was a crucial missing part :)
[10:43] <siberiannerd> should i write a bug report if expert install from 12.04.3 cd1 was finished without warnings and after reboot i end up with grub's "error: file not found." ?
[10:48] <ikonia> siberiannerd: no
[10:48] <siberiannerd> ikonia, what should i do?
[10:48] <ikonia> fix the problem
[10:48] <ikonia> and not cross-post the same question in mulitple ubuntu channels
[10:48] <siberiannerd> ikonia, i tried twice with alternate and server, just asked for server
[10:49] <ikonia> siberiannerd: trying twice is not fixing the problem
[10:49] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, did you actually install grub?  where?  how do we reproduce the problem?  especially since most people haven't had your experience;
[10:49] <ikonia> it's not even understanding the problem
[10:49] <ikonia> siberiannerd: the first qestion I'd ask, is did you use a DVD, or a USB,
[10:51] <siberiannerd> ikonia, hdd
[10:51] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, i can describe the steps to reproduce if you want me to
[10:51] <siberiannerd> if i should to deal with it properly
[10:52] <ikonia> siberiannerd: hdd ?
[10:52] <ikonia> you used a hard disk to install from ?
[10:52] <siberiannerd> ikonia, hard disk drive
[10:52] <siberiannerd> yeah, why not?
[10:52] <ikonia> siberiannerd: how did you install from hard disk ?
[10:53] <siberiannerd> as it described by official manpages for debian installer and anywhere
[10:53] <siberiannerd> without 3rd party tools to put an image to drive
[10:53] <ikonia> if you can't be bothered answering questions - we can't help
[10:53] <siberiannerd> ok, ikonia, dd if=iso of=hdd
[10:53] <siberiannerd> and here we go
[10:53] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that don't install it
[10:53] <ikonia> siberiannerd: so please don't try to be clever when YOU are the one asking for help
[10:54] <siberiannerd> ikonia, well you're terribly wrong
[10:54] <ikonia> oh, really, dd'ing an install image to a harddisk = an install ?
[10:54] <siberiannerd> you never read about debian installation procedure from hdd?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, umm, no that is NOT an installation procedure for ubuntu.
[10:54] <siberiannerd> sorry to hear that
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: I'm asking what YOU did
[10:54] <siberiannerd> i jsut said what i did
[10:54] <siberiannerd> i'm not lying
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that is not an install
[10:54] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that is just putting an install iso onto a hard disk
[10:55] <siberiannerd> i've put the installation media iso like that
[10:55] <siberiannerd> after what i specified nodmraid nomodset expertinstall
[10:55] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, suggest you try this: make a boot ISO on usb.  Boot from that ISO and choose install.
[10:56] <siberiannerd> ikonia, should i continue describing the steps over stages?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... an ISO has to be burned to a DVD or CD or installed onto a USB stick
[10:56] <siberiannerd> no it shouldn't
[10:56] <ikonia> siberiannerd: just lost total interest thanks to you trying to be smart with your answers, see if someone else wants to help you
[10:56] <siberiannerd> works flawless
[10:56] <ObrienDave> ok, if you say so
[10:56] <siberiannerd> ikonia, i didn't try to you was just pointing that i was doing something wrong
[10:57] <siberiannerd> come on guys i'm not trying to act clever or anything like that
[10:57] <siberiannerd> i came with a problem i can't troubleshoot properly
[10:57] <ikonia> it doesn't come across like that
[10:57] <ikonia> as dd'ing the install image to the hard disk is NOT an install
[10:57] <ikonia> it's dd'ing the install image to a hard disk - nothing more
[10:57] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, listen up.  copying to the HDD is NOT installing.  what you did is NOT an installation.
[10:57] <siberiannerd> well let me read some manpages or howtos so i could behave more polite or being more informative
[10:58] <siberiannerd> oh ok
[10:58] <bazhang> !attitude | siberiannerd
[10:58] <siberiannerd> uhm i know that
[10:58] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, try this:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:59] <siberiannerd> so i launched the setup from alternate image that was written to hdd via dd, completed the procedure of installation on the second hdd having /boot and mbr on the 3rd one
[10:59] <siberiannerd> which resulted the above
[10:59] <kuribas> How do I set environment variable for X apps?
[11:00] <siberiannerd> d-i never prompted warnings or anything else
[11:00] <kuribas> My variables in .bashrc aren't read.
[11:01] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[11:01] <siberiannerd> but without any floppies
[11:01] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, you did note that this method is for UNSUPPORTED version of ubuntu?  That means ... unsupported here as well.
[11:02] <siberiannerd> somewhat no
[11:03] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... and it is also written for an 8 year old system?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, yeah that big pink banner across the top of the page.
[11:03] <siberiannerd> ObrienDave, it has even 8 years old bugs in it so i thought it would be fine
[11:03] <geirha> kuribas: Set environment variables in .profile. They do not belong in .bashrc
[11:04] <ObrienDave> omg *face palm*
[11:04] <kuribas> geirha: Ok, I'll try that.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, you're installing 12.04 using an outdated, end of life methodology?  OOOOOOkay then.
[11:04] <geirha> kuribas: You may also set them in .pam_environment, which is read by the pam_env module when you log in, though note that .pam_environment is not a shell script, so shell syntax won't work in there.
[11:04] <siberiannerd> ObrienDave, so there is not proper way to use hdd as installation media for ubuntu, is that correct?
[11:04] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... have fun with that. *lurking*
[11:04] <siberiannerd> no, seriously
[11:05] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, back up.  Can your box boot from USB?
[11:05] <siberiannerd> nope
[11:05] <pseudonymous> Err yes it can
[11:05] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, ok.  what are the machine specs. it matters.
[11:05] <siberiannerd> no
[11:06] <siberiannerd> ok, it's mini-itx zotac mb without usb controlled on it
[11:06] <siberiannerd> should i get deeper into details?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, nope.
[11:06] <siberiannerd> r*
[11:06] <ObrienDave> siberiannerd... is there a DVD burner?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, I would suggest you consider using lubuntu or xubuntu though.  Both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.
[11:07] <siberiannerd> no, cd-rom is not integrated in motherboard unfortunately
[11:07] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, from that page I sent you:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
[11:07] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, can i read about supported method of installing xubuntu from hdd media?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, same method as in the tutorial, just different OS.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, actually see the section: Installation without a CD"
[11:09] <siberiannerd> cfhowlett, yeah but the only option in there is unsupported
[11:09] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, it's also possible you could do a network installation.  See server and network installations in that tutorial
[11:09] <siberiannerd> as you pointed me to that pink banner
[11:10] <siberiannerd> pxe is buggy in there
[11:10] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, dern.  I was literally tying PXE for your next optoin.
[11:10] <cfhowlett> *option*
[11:10] <siberiannerd> i wouldn't come if it was an option
[11:11] <siberiannerd> and if i had sata dvd-rom
[11:11] <cfhowlett> siberiannerd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, I have the 64 bit version
[11:12] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you recommend in order to install the proper skype?
[11:12] <Lemino> Hi all! Anyone who can help me get my trackpad working correctly? I'm on a Vostro 3360.
[11:13] <kizzx2> hey guys
[11:13] <kizzx2> i'm trying to install Datastax Cassandra on LTS 1204
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone know how to install skype for ubuntu 64 bit?
[11:13] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... where did you get a 64bit version???
[11:13] <kizzx2> apt-get install dsc12
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> of ubuntu ObrienDave ?
[11:13] <kizzx2> but it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:13] <kizzx2>  dsc12 : Depends: cassandra (= 1.2.9) but 2.0.0 is to be installed
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I didn't get a skype version for 64
[11:13] <ikonia> !skype | Wiz_KeeD
[11:14] <ObrienDave> no, Skype
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, that link suggest you should include 32 bit applications in your repository, something that a lot of people do not recommend
[11:14] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... I meant 13.04 64bit?
[11:14] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so what's the problem then ?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> 12.04 ObrienDave
[11:15] <ObrienDave> ok use the link
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, because from what I know installing 32-bit applications on 64 is not that good...also if i'm going to install the 32 bit one, why not use the one from skype.com?
[11:15] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... this will get you the latest 32bit file. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[11:15] <siberiannerd> but uhm i don't have any bootable options but hdd unfortunately
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, that's what the link suggests
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it is the one from skype.com
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: where is the native 64bit skype client ?
[11:15] <Lemino> I'll come back at another time!
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> I have no idea ikonia
[11:15] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: right, it doesn't exist
[11:16] <ObrienDave> ikonia... miscommunication on the 64bit Skype
[11:16] <ikonia> ObrienDave: do share
[11:16] <ObrienDave> there isn't one, like you said ;))
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> So it would be safe to add the 32 bit architecture then?
[11:17] <ikonia> ObrienDave: so how is that  miscommunication ?
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> You guys did that?
[11:17] <siberiannerd> ok, ubuntu can't be installed from hdd i got it
[11:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't like adding the 32bit arch to the repos, no
[11:17] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, nevermind
[11:17] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: however, that is the current documented process
[11:18] <Wiz_KeeD> hmmm
[11:19] <Wiz_KeeD> how the hell can I get skype on my computer without adding the 32bit arch to the repos and still be able to upgrade it and all that...
[11:19] <siberiannerd> should i write a feature request so the installation from hdd media could get some attention and support?
[11:19] <ikonia> siberiannerd: nah
[11:19] <siberiannerd> ikonia, why not?
[11:19] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... install ia32libs then Skype
[11:19] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: why don't you want to add 32bit multiarch capability?
[11:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: i shouldn't stop you upgrading
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, because when searching for other software I wouldn't want to install 32bit designed packages that might not be optimized for 64
[11:20] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: that wouldn't happen unless you ask for it explicitly
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, then all 32bit applications will be available for download, something I wouldn't neccesairly want
[11:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it doesn't work like that
[11:21] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm sorry, I'm new to this, it may very well be possible, I just read about it
[11:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Ready to be educated though :D
[11:21] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... no, that just adds 32bit support to 12.04
[11:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia still doesn't do it for a reason :)
[11:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:24] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... ia32libs just adds 32bit support to 12.04. necessary for some programs like most 3rd party SecondLife clients
[11:27] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, someone on the ubuntu forum says for example "you don't want to install a packages that was not compiled for your platform. Either get a 64bit version or compile it yourself. "
[11:27] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: i've only seen skype provide 32bit packages.  Their 64bit package just depends on the 32bit real version.  Though I haven't check in the last few months
[11:28] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: use the 32bit version, there is no single need for skype in 64bit
[11:28] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: skype just needs to install some multiarch libs
[11:28] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... thats a PITA, just add ia32libs then install Skype. no biggie. it works
[11:29] <jrib> that shouldn't even be needed, just install skype after enabling multiarch
[11:29] <Wiz_KeeD> If more people with professional opinions suggest the same thing I think it's time to do it
[11:30] <Wiz_KeeD> ok sir!
[11:30] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: and to correct the part with "you dont want to install.." the real thing is "you dont want to install NSA/MS stuff on your free software product and you dont want to use such evil stuff anymore" that would be the correct part and not the architecutre thing :)
[11:31] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't get that fully tbh :-s
[11:31] <ObrienDave> iceroot... LOL
[11:31] <Wiz_KeeD> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[11:31] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... open a terminal. sudo apt-get install ia32libs
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Okay ObrienDave
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> And a real important question I have not been answered yet.If I somehow mess up by installing some wierd packages or from wrong repositories or smth like that and end up with conflicts and all that
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> What is a good backup system that can take a snapshot and you just revert to ti?
[11:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Lik the windows recovery thing
[11:35] <ObrienDave> now THAT is a good question
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you shouldn't be using those "weird" packages as you where told yesterday
[11:36] <ObrienDave> ikonia... lol
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Or any other mistake that might break my system
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Could be multilple causes
[11:36] <Guest87684> is there a "Computer" menu in 1304?
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> I compile wrongly, I install the wrong library and all that
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD:if you don't use bad repos - you won't break your system
[11:36] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot be expected to work flawlessly
[11:36] <iceroot> Wiz_KeeD: snapshot of the complete system?
[11:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you don't need to compile software that can cause a conflict with system libraries
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> iceroot, yes
[11:37] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... that's why we are trying to help you. sheesh
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I had MANY MANY conflicts and crashes using JUST the standard repository
[11:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no you didn't
[11:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the standard repos do not conflict
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, in the idea that I might mess up and need to revert
[11:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the sooner you stop avoiding the advice of keep to the supported ubuntu repos, and don't try to compile software that conflicts with ubuntu software versions - you'll have no fatal problems
[11:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: other types of problems are normally straight forward to fix
[11:38] <Wiz_KeeD> That means I have to know when I install something else if it conflicts or not with ubuntu
[11:38] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... i do understand your concerns. there are enough good people here that if someone gives you the wrong info, they will be pummeled with a very large trout LMAO
[11:39] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no, as if it's in the repo - it doesn't conflict.
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> hahahha, lol ObrienDave
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, I understand
[11:40] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll drop the backup idea then
[11:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: nothing wrong with backups
[11:41] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: but a full system backup for every change, you'll just waste time/disk space
[11:41] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... backups are your friend, for sure
[11:41] <Wiz_KeeD> File backups are not important to me, I just code in python and save the code with dvcs like git or bzr
[11:41] <Wiz_KeeD> the rest is irrelevant
[11:42] <Guest87684> anyone can help me navigate to the "Computer" menu?
[11:42] <Daisyab__> i have 2 ubuntu accounts and i cant access one of them ever since i typed in a wrong path for installing xampp.  Can anyone help me recover my other account
[11:42] <ikonia> Daisyab__: xammp has nothing to do with your login
[11:42] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... what "computer" menu? on the desktop?
[11:43] <universal> how to find out if the currrent wireless driver on my system is the lastest one and if not then where to find latest or latest stable one ? hardware is - hp pavilion g6 series laptop with broadcom BCM4313 mini wifi card. current wireless driver is "wl" the default one available in ubuntu 13.04 installed from soft. sources > additional drivers tab. wireless driver package is "bcmwl-kernel-source" Veriosn - <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[11:43] <ikonia> universal: use the one ubuntu provides
[11:43] <Daisyab__> ikonia: i know that but after i typed in the wrong path for installing xampp that account doesn't open anymore
[11:43] <ikonia> Daisyab__: please define "doesn't open"
[11:43] <Daisyab__> i'm thinking that the wrong path was used and it had no where to go
[11:43] <universal> ikonia: ok...but the current driver 'wl' has some bugs
[11:44] <universal> ikonia: its freezes system now or then
[11:44] <Daisyab__> ikonia: after logging in with a password, my machine goes blank for a sec, then comes right back to the log in page
[11:45] <ikonia> Daisyab__: login as the other user then "su - $other_username"
[11:45] <ikonia> Daisyab__: see if that allows you to switch user withoout any errors/warnings
[11:46] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... did you d/l ia32libs yet?
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> It does not install ObrienDave because I started a backup with backintime program
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> now i'm trying to stop and remove it
[11:46] <Daisyab__> it does but i cant acces any of the files
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> But it moves very sluggish, adn even though I closed it in ps -aux | grep backintime
[11:46] <universal> !update
[11:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I see a lot if instances running
[11:46] <ObrienDave> NO!!! dont stop the backup!
[11:46] <ikonia> Daisyab__: sounds like the permissions are wrong
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> and that download of lib is still in 0% in building depdenency tree
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> now what? :))
[11:47] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "pwd" when you su - $username
[11:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Ubuntu is complex as hell man
[11:47] <gerep> Hi all. What's the Linux Mint channel? I'm worried about my notebook temperature. It's 79ºC (4 cores) and the fan is spinning loud and fast =/
[11:47] <ikonia> !mint | gerep
[11:47] <gerep> ikonia: that's why I asked what's the channel :) you know it?
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> now i'm stuck, only idea that comes to mind is to restart
[11:48] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives  me /root
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: thanks ;)
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: READ the ubottu gave you
[11:48] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what command did you do "su...." exactly.
[11:48] <gerep> #linuxmint-help
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: read it PROPERLY
[11:48] <ikonia> gerep: it's not on freenode
[11:48] <Daisyab__> su -$denis
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: sorry, I'm really stupid today hahaha
[11:48] <ikonia> it's not funny
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> any idea ObrienDave ?
[11:48] <gerep> ikonia: thanks a lot, that will help ;)
[11:48] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... it's not that difficult. just takes some getting used to is all
[11:48] <Daisyab__> denis is the name of otheruse
[11:48] <Daisyab__> *otheruser
[11:49] <universal> !kernel
[11:49] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what's the exact command you typed please.
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> I think it's extremly difficult for these special cases, any retard can learn to apt-get install update and remove and kiill a few procceses in minutes
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> But for this complex tasks almost nobody has the answer
[11:49] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: please don't call people retards
[11:49] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it was su -$denis
[11:49] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, please do "exit" so you are back to your normal user, than do "su - denis"
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not calling anyone retard, I was speaking generally to make the idea of "easy" more vivid :)
[11:50] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so don't do it please.
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> How can I close all instances of backintime thing now...and uninstall it
[11:50] <Daisyab__> ikonia: where denis takes the place of 'otheruser'
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Or should I restart first...
[11:50] <universal> ikonia: what about updating kernel to a newer version which contains latest wl drivers
[11:50] <ikonia> Daisyab__: is denis the name of the broken user
[11:50] <ObrienDave> don't need to uninstall BackInTime
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Laptop moves right now like it has 200mb of ram
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: use the kernel ubuntu provides
[11:51] <universal> ikonia: yea...how to do it ?
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ObrienDave, need to stop it since it's killing my box and I see it in ps -aux | grep backintime
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> even though I've closed everything
[11:51] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's not running...
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: you already are using the kernel ubuntu provides
[11:51] <ikonia> universal: so stick with it
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> And what's the point in keeping it there if i'm not going to use it ObrienDave ? :)
[11:52] <Guest87684> ObrienDave, the menu that shows hard drives, and stuff well i guess the windows equivalent is "computer"
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, I will restart now
[11:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Since I don't know anything beter to do
[11:52] <ObrienDave> Wiz_KeeD... go ahead and power off the machine
[11:53] <universal> ikonia: no i mean the updated kernel....my system is 13.04 and now 13.10 is expected to be rolled out next month so there should a newer kernel
[11:53] <ikonia> universal: so you upgrade when 13.10 is available
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't, it moves too slow
[11:53] <Daisyab__> ikonia: just did that and entered password then i get an error message -su export: '=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/denis/lampp': not a valid identifier.  denis is the name of the broken account
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> :))
[11:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Great os
[11:53] <universal> ikonia: no fixes for now ? :(
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, sounds like th profile is messed up a bit
[11:54] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... Ubuntu does not use that type of a menu
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you type "id" please.
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: (as the user denis)
[11:54] <ikonia> Daisyab__: show me the output
[11:54] <nugroho> 11.5015.201081.0001 33.7415.201081.0001
[11:54] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... you need to start with the folder called "file system"
[11:55] <Guest87684> obriendave, in 12.04 i think there use to be that menu by moving ur mouse up to places then computer
[11:55] <Daisyab__> what do you mean as the user denis
[11:55] <Guest87684> obriendave, it shows all the listed drives and stuff
[11:55] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... then MOUNTED drives would be listed under the /mnt folder
[11:55] <ikonia> Daisyab__: su - denis, then id
[11:56] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... that's been removed in 13.04 i think
[11:56] <Guest87684> obriendave, yeah that was my question, can we get that back?
[11:56] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... not sure, I run Xubuntu
[11:57] <Guest87684> obriendave, alright thx for the help
[11:57] <ObrienDave> Guest87684... sorry i could not help you batter
[11:58] <ObrienDave> *better
[11:58] <Guest87684> obriendave, No problem thx for helping anyways
[11:59] <Daisyab__> ikonia: result: uid = 1000(denis) gid = 1000 (denis)  groups = 1000 (denis), 4 (adm), 20 (dialout), 24(cdrom), 46(plugdev), 111(lpadmin), 119(admin), 122(sambashare), 127 (guest)
[11:59] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, that's good.
[11:59] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "pwd" too and show me the output
[12:00] <Daisyab__> what does all of that mean?
[12:00] <ikonia> Daisyab__: it's giving me information to try to help you
[12:01] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives me /home/denis
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: great, so that's a good "standard" setup
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: just need to fix your profile and hopefully check your permissions
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: can you do "ls -la"
[12:01] <ikonia> Daisyab__: does that work or complain about permissions
[12:02] <nugroho> WHA420355
[12:02] <nugroho> SOC155694
[12:02] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <nugroho> YMH297433
[12:02] <ikonia> nugroho: please stop that
[12:02] <Daisyab__> ikonia: it gives me a long list of files on the home folders on denis
[12:03] <Daisyab__> *folder
[12:03] <ObrienDave> somebody boot nugroho
[12:03] <ikonia> Daisyab__: ok, so that's good
[12:03] <ikonia> Daisyab__: so looks like your permissions are at least "ok"
[12:03] <easi> hello everyone
[12:03] <somsip> ikonia: he's being doing it on and off for the last 4 or 5 hours, FWIW
[12:03] <philinux> ikonia: wouldn't this be better for daisy ls -la | pastebinit
[12:04] <Daisyab__> i can see the file where i typed that wrong path, how can i open it
[12:04] <ikonia> philinux: not too fussed with the detail at this point, as long as he can read his home directory, that's enough for me
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: what file do you think it is ?
[12:04] <philinux> ikonia: kk
[12:04] <Daisyab__> .profile
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: perfect,
[12:04] <ikonia> Daisyab__: looks like you've found it
[12:05] <ikonia> Daisyab__: so any text editor can open that
[12:05] <Daisyab__> so how can i open it from the terminal
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> Daisyab__: use a terminal editor like nano or vim
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> nano .profile
[12:06] <RobinJ> is there anything special i need to do before attempting to install ubuntu 13.04 in a dual boot with windows 8?
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> Daisyab__: for nano press control + x then enter to save
[12:06] <[Gentoo]> RobinJ: aftert windows 8 is installed?
[12:06] <RobinJ> yes
[12:06] <RobinJ> it came preinstalled
[12:06] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... YES. read up on installing under UEFI
[12:07] <RobinJ> well damn
[12:07] <[Gentoo]> i think grub should pick the install up but im not 100% sure about windows 8
[12:07] <easi> who know red hat
[12:07] <ObrienDave> hang on a sec
[12:07] <bazhang> #rhel easi
[12:07] <siberiannerd> what do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?
[12:07] <[Gentoo]> siberiannerd: rebuild the modules
[12:08] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: no !!!
[12:08] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: "not found" = not there, you can't rebuild what's not there
[12:08] <easi> rpm file association failure is how
[12:08] <bazhang> !ot | easi
[12:08] <easi> ?
[12:08] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:08] <bazhang> easi, go ask in a redhat centos channel
[12:08] <bazhang> easi, #centos
[12:09] <easi> how i join it
[12:09] <bazhang> easi /join #centos
[12:09] <easi> thanks
[12:09] <RobinJ> oh great so i should disable my ssd? -.-
[12:10] <marco__> hallo
[12:11] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... i don't think it will actually disable your SSD, no
[12:11] <RobinJ> it says i need to disable intel srt
[12:12] <RobinJ> which is teh technology used for a caching ssd
[12:13] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... that's just the cache, not the drive.
[12:13] <RobinJ> ....
[12:13] <RobinJ> it's a caching ssd. it does nothing but acting as a cache.
[12:14] <siberiannerd> what do i do if insmod normal fails with "not found" ?
[12:15] <ObrienDave> RobinJ... SRT is an intermediary between the system and the drive, sort of like a RAM buffer.
[12:16] <dwatkins> siberiannerd: see above, please
[12:16] <dwatkins> oh, sorry, this was already discussed
[12:16] <siberiannerd> grub "points to the wrong place" after installation, `insmod normal` reports "not found" which steps can i perform to get closer to solution?
[12:16] <dwatkins> I get the impression there's much more to this.
[12:17] <siberiannerd> whatever, the brightly sharp problem description as is delivered, what else can i tell?
[12:18] <yicak> apt-get don't work
[12:19] <ikonia> why someone would look at insmod for kernel modules because grub is looking at the wrong place is beyond me
[12:20]  * cfhowlett ...manfually resisting the urge to contribute an extraneous commentary
[12:20] <cfhowlett> *manfully*
[12:20] <Ipzael> hi
[12:20] <siberiannerd> do this i'm open for critics due to the fact i'm really that noob
[12:20] <cfhowlett> Ipzael, greetings
[12:22] <Daisyab__> ikonia:, Gentoo: you guys are life savers. Thank you so much
[12:22] <yicak> i'm a noob to ubuntu
[12:22] <ObrienDave> YAY! another happy customer LOL
[12:22] <ikonia> Daisyab__: glad you are working
[12:22] <monkeyjuice> yicak:  what are you trying to do
[12:23] <yicak> somebody say LOL
[12:23] <ObrienDave> LOL
[12:23] <yicak> what's LOL
[12:23] <ObrienDave> Laugh Out Loud
[12:23] <OddPizza_> my ssh client works on my mobile data network, but not on my internet. what is potentially wrong? I'm getting "connection refused"
[12:25] <yicak> ObrienDave, LOL is a online game
[12:25] <dwatkins> OddPizza_: possibly simply that your mobile provider blocks ssh
[12:25] <bucketm0use> Does anyone know if it's possible to dual-boot + secure boot with UEFI Windows 8 / Ubuntu (12.04)
[12:26] <OddPizza_> dwatkins: it works on my mobile data. not on my network however. ie my school internet
[12:26] <dwatkins> OddPizza_: your school blocks ssh, which is unsurprising
[12:26] <OddPizza_> oh
[12:26] <ObrienDave> yicak... not in an IRC chat room it isn't
[12:27] <OddPizza_> probably I guess. dwatkins :/ mmk. thanks
[12:27] <daftykins> ObrienDave: yeah, yeah it is. things can have multiple meanings here too! :)
[12:27] <[Gentoo]> OddPizza_: could try enabling ssh on another port
[12:27] <ObrienDave> OMG, shows how old i'm getting to be LMAO
[12:27] <bucketm0use> OddPizza_, you may be able to talk to a Dean if you need SSH access. Get a higher-up to sign off on a request like that and submit it to a network administrator.
[12:28] <dwatkins> [Gentoo]: that may still violate the terms of use of the network
[12:36] <aps> Hi every body
[12:36] <cfhowlett> aps, greetings
[12:37] <aps> first time  I am in this chat
[12:37] <bucketm0use> Is it possible to Dual Boot and Secure Boot (UEFI) Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows 8?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> !eufi | bucketm0use
[12:40] <aps> thanks  cfhowlett
[12:40] <vmachine1> i want to search for two exact word using grep.. but im having some issues... i want to search for the word deny and <IP_ADDRESS>  .. grep 'deny' '5.5.5.' logs
[12:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:40] <bucketm0use> !uefi | bucketm0use
[12:40] <bucketm0use> BluesKaj, ubottu, much obliged
[12:40] <vmachine1> whats the syntax to search for those two exact terms
[12:40] <BluesKaj> bucketm0use, hope it helps
[12:50] <siberiannerd> there is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?
[13:01] <WACOMalt> Hi folks. I have a bit of an onusual question. As happens often on IT fields, you have to deal with windows.  I am needing to download a windows ISO from my technet subscription, but I have to do so from Ubuntu, and from terminal only
[13:02] <WACOMalt> I have tried combos of curl, wget, and axel
[13:02] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, meaning IE only, right?
[13:02] <WACOMalt> nothing can resolve the URL.
[13:02] <WACOMalt> No
[13:02] <WACOMalt> I could download form firefox or chrome in ubuntu fine
[13:02] <WACOMalt> but they use a serverside dll to redirect the download.
[13:02] <WACOMalt> and I have to log in with my account.
[13:03] <daftykins> WACOMalt: how is it that you don't have another computer to hand?
[13:03] <WACOMalt> the firect download link is something like http://technet.microsoft.com/subscriptions/json/GetDownloadRequest?brand=TechNet&locale=en-US&fileId=46948&activexDisabled=true&akamaiDL=false
[13:03] <WACOMalt> well, realistically I could download this here, then upload to the server
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> well now
[13:03] <WACOMalt> but I'm wanting to learn how if possible, to do this via the server directly
[13:03] <Pici> WACOMalt: have you tried using w3m to browse the site instead of trying to figure out what the url is?
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I had to reinstall my ubuntu becuase of that backup program that Froze my computer
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> great!
[13:03] <WACOMalt> so I dont have to transfer it twice
[13:03] <Wiz_KeeD> It just gets better and better
[13:04] <WACOMalt> w3m, I hadnt. I'll try that
[13:04] <WACOMalt> but arent scripts generally unsupported in that
[13:04] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you don't re-install if a program hangs
[13:04] <WACOMalt> neither curl or wget support redirects in this way?
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, every time i booted it froze everything, to do sudo reboot it took about 4 minutes
[13:05] <Pici> WACOMalt: there are likely other things going on here, like checking for cookies.
[13:05] <WACOMalt> w3m reports "javascript required to login"
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so ? you just remove it / disable it
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I can't
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why ?
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I wanted to do apt-get remove backintime --purge
[13:05] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ....and
[13:05] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't get the chance everything froze up before I could do it
[13:05] <WACOMalt> the thing is. I was able to get the download manager "flashget" on a windows machine to download this file locally
[13:05] <WACOMalt> with no cookies
[13:06] <WACOMalt> just passed the url and the login info
[13:06] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so you ask for help - it's easy to fix that, rather than re-installing and wise cracking "great" because you did something people kept advising you not to do
[13:06] <WACOMalt> so it SHOULD be possible as long as the redirect gets supported
[13:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I could not ask for help I could barely type in the terminal not to mention running xchat :)))
[13:06] <Pici> WACOMalt: I don't know then, sorry.
[13:06] <Pici> 5/70
[13:07] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: then following adivice and not doing the opposite of what advised seems a better way forwad
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Now for example, I wanted to install broadcom wireless driver from producer (on the top right bar) and it gave an error, now i want to close that application but no matter if i do alt tab or click on it nothing happens
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> not even quitting it from the launcher on the left
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[13:08] <WACOMalt> Dang. I'm suprised that flashget can download from this URL and nothing on ubuntu can. Considering flashget is likely built on most of the open source libraries that linux uses like curl and wget
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry i logged off an in
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i get the link for isntalling skype from the bot here?
[13:10] <iceroot> !skype | Wiz_KeeD
[13:10] <WACOMalt> !skype
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you
[13:10] <WACOMalt> hmm guess not. didnt work for me
[13:10] <Pici> WACOMalt: thats because the bot just said it a second ago.
[13:10] <WACOMalt> ah
[13:11] <iceroot> WACOMalt: the bot is only answering once in a minute for the same search term to not flood the channel, everything was correct
[13:11] <WACOMalt> makes sense
[13:11] <bucketm0use> WACOMalt, did you try wget -L ?
[13:11] <WACOMalt> bucketm0use, yup
[13:11] <bucketm0use> bummer
[13:11] <Wiz_KeeD> and I had to install someting before sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 for it to work
[13:12] <WACOMalt> tell me about it. my upload speed here is painful. so now instead of a 15 minute download. it will be a 1 hour download, and a 8 hour upload. :|
[13:12] <siberiannerd> there is no way to fix the bootloader if it is clear from-under grub rescue that there is no normal.mod under /boot/grub on boot device right?
[13:12] <Wiz_KeeD> !add-architecture i386
[13:13] <Wiz_KeeD> !dpkg --add-architecture i386
[13:13] <DeonP> firewall is set to accept all atm, with nat from lan to internet working fine.no other policies defined.if i try to access webserver from internet via tunnel, tcpdump shows browser requests on tunnel ppp port but apache not responding or not receiving the packets
[13:14] <DeonP> sorry missed first line, got l2tp client up and running+ above msg
[13:14] <bucketm0use> Q: If I dual-boot Windows 8 + Ubuntu 12.04 - would it be worth it to install them both on 1TB HDDs and use my 256GB SSD as cache ?
[13:15] <Tuesday> how do i start gcaltool from terminal
[13:15] <bucketm0use> Tuesday, gcalctool from term?
[13:15] <siberiannerd> bucketm0use, there is some bcache http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/
[13:15] <cfhowlett> bucketm0use, type gcalctool
[13:16] <Tuesday> that didn't work
[13:16] <bucketm0use> notice you were missing a 'c'
[13:16] <pgimeno> I'm having a problem, Apache filled the hard disk log apparently because of a corrupted gnutls cache, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576676 - is it safe to remove /var/cache/apache2/gnutls_cache ?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Tuesday, is it installed?
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 does not work it says it is not found
[13:16] <bucketm0use> ty cfhowlett I'll look into this
[13:16] <Tuesday> oh wait it worked i forgot the c lol
[13:16] <cfhowlett> d'oh!
[13:18] <Chathurga> I'm having a problem with manually installing X on a stripped down ubuntu
[13:18] <Chathurga> none of the window or file managers are starting automatically
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, how did you strip down?
[13:18] <Chathurga> so when I do startx gnome starts but metacity/gnome-panel doesnt, any ideas?
[13:18] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: why do you want it to start automatically?
[13:18] <Chathurga> http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, so an unofficial derivative?  Why not install Ubuntu mini and build up the OS you want.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !mini|Chathurga,
[13:19] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: do what cfhowlett said - this is what i do too
[13:20] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: the main advantag is, that you use "officical" ubuntu and have better support here
[13:20] <Chathurga> The only problem is this is for like an educational class where we boot into the terminal at first and have them startx
[13:20] <Chathurga> it'll be mass printed onto usbs
[13:20] <cfhowlett> Chathurga, so?  mini can do that ...
[13:21] <Chathurga> Okay I'll have a look at that
[13:21] <zykotick9> Chathurga: was is in your .xinitrc file?
[13:21] <Chathurga> I've tried pretty much every combo, one sec
[13:22] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 return dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[13:22] <BooeyOH> how do you use the package selector that is available at install after you install (on 12.04 if that makes a difference)
[13:23] <cfhowlett> BooeyOH, you mean the software center?
[13:23] <zykotick9> BooeyOH: "tasksel" perhaps?
[13:23] <BooeyOH> not sure, this is the server edition
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|BooeyOH
[13:23] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[13:23] <BooeyOH> sorry
[13:24] <cfhowlett> BooeyOH, no apologies needed.
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash-player
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash player
[13:25] <Wiz_KeeD> !flash
[13:26] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: if you build from minimal - first thing you need to get is gdm or an other desktop/login manager - it is very important for permission and it took me some time to find that out ;)
[13:26] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, what are you trying to do
[13:26] <Pici> !fishing | Wiz_KeeD
[13:27] <Chathurga> Mine boots into gnome but I must start metacity manually, it's driven me tot the limit at this stage
[13:27] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, install skype properly on ubuntu 12.04 64
[13:27] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: well, i am sure there is a file for gnome, where you enter the stuff you want to autostart
[13:28] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: what exactly are your requirements? what do you want to do (big picture)?
[13:28] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get install skype ?
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> wish it was that simple
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> it's not included
[13:28] <Wiz_KeeD> not for 64
[13:29] <Chathurga> Everything else is sorted, it's actually just getting gnome-panel, metacity and nautalis to start with startx but for some reason their not
[13:29] <CatKiller> www.skype.com/download?
[13:29] <Chathurga> I'm not sure how that's controlled in a working setup
[13:29] <Subzero> download .deb package and run sudo -dpkg -i nameofpackage
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> !skype
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> that link says no
[13:29] <CatKiller> says no?
[13:29] <Wiz_KeeD> It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[13:29] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, http://rumytaulu.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/cant-install-ia32-libs-and-ia32-libs-multiarch-how-to-fix-it/
[13:29] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: so, what happens when you try to install it?
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> I never TRY to do anything since last time It crashed using experiements, and everyone is bitching constantly to NEVER stray away from the standard repository
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> my options are limited
[13:30] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: what do you use for login?
[13:30] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, follow that link. Afterwards do 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[13:30] <Wiz_KeeD> But this is by far not an exact science, everyone has a method
[13:30] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: What happens when you do 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[13:31] <Chathurga> auto logs in as some "ubuntu" username
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: maybe use lightdm or gdm for graphical login?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 when i do that it does not recognise the command
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, it's not in the repositories
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: that is not the aswer to my question: what do you use for login?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i did apt-cache search skype and there's no such thing for 64 bit
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, never say never.  The only way I could get the non-PRC backdoor version of skype here in Beijing was to have someone dropbox the .deb.  sudo dpkg -i skype has been running great ever since.
[13:31] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: do you get grapical interface before or after the users gets auto-logged in
[13:31] <Chathurga> oh gdm
[13:31] <bucketm0use> Wiz_KeeD, the link I sent you does not ask you to do that though?
[13:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Just scared
[13:32] <Chathurga> after
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> bucketm0use, sorry?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, <IP_ADDRESS> for ubuntu 12.04 is in AMD64 packages ...
[13:32] <bucketm0use> If you're not confident then I wouldn't recommend trying it
[13:32] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: is it an option for you to install gdm or any other GUI Login manager?
[13:32] <Wiz_KeeD> idk what you just said cfhowlett :))
[13:33] <cfhowlett> Desktop$ apt-cache policy skype
[13:33] <cfhowlett> skype:
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:33] <cfhowlett>   Version table:
[13:33] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <cfhowlett>  *** <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 0
[13:33] <Chathurga> Not with the way things are structured in the course no
[13:33] <Wiz_KeeD> so what am I supposed to understand/do now?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, get that package and install.  don't understand why you're reporting that it doesn't exist.
[13:34] <Wiz_KeeD> So I asked one question got 3 different answers, someone says i should download form the site the 32 bit one, one says I should use those repositories, another says I should get a deb and do it myslef :))
[13:34] <bucketm0use> So you have 3 solutions to 1 problem?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, open source = choice.  :)
[13:35]  * cfhowlett thinks it's better than having 99 problems ...
[13:35] <bucketm0use> Think of it as a blessing in disguise!
[13:35] <Wiz_KeeD> I will avoid of thinking like that since they cannot have the same consequences
[13:36] <Wiz_KeeD> especially when the official documentation from here says: It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[13:36] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: how are things going on?
[13:36] <Wiz_KeeD> Had too much trouble from advice thrown just like that, I have no idea what i'm doing since i'm new here but it's clear that most of the people offering advice are not experts and do not know the full extent of the consequences
[13:37] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: and yet we are the same people that write this documentation that you're reading...
[13:37] <Shogoot> i people. I go tthis if ($this->dateTo) return false; is that the same as say if (isset($this->dateTo)) return false; or how does that evaluate? dateTo is a timestamp object.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !details|Shogoot, ??? w
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> Then i have no idea what to do
[13:38] <Linux> Hey i was just woundering.... does Linux Own Wine program?
[13:38] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?
[13:38] <Benkinooby> Shogoot: also maybe #bash or ##bash is a better place to ask?
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I will install it from the site and when I come back and say Skype crashes and reply how I installed it
[13:38] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, 3 possible solutions, try #1, #2, #3 ...
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I will be made an idiot or some sort :)
[13:38] <Chathurga> If you're asking how tihngs happen, we boot into terminal then get people to manually startx, gnome loads up but no gnome-panel, naut, metacity
[13:38] <geirha> Linux: No, wine has no relation to linux
[13:39] <Chathurga> after startx when I opena  terminal I can launch metacity no problem
[13:39] <Linux> ok thx
[13:39] <zhangxun> ol
[13:39] <Chathurga> I've tried placing metacity, nautilis and gnome-panel in ~/.xinitrc but nothing changes
[13:39] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: I'm trying to help you without you trying random things because you don't seem to be comfortable with that. What does the contents of /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch say?
[13:39] <zhangxun> how many are you?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> zhangxun, ???
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, should I vim that?
[13:40] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: you can just cat it
[13:40] <Benkinooby> Chathurga: install gdm
[13:40] <gabrielcz> Hello all!
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Pici, foreign-architecture i386
[13:40] <cfhowlett> gabrielcz, greetings
[13:40] <gabrielcz> I can not get samba with WRITE permission!
[13:40] <zykotick9> Chathurga: what is in your .xinitrc right now?  can you put it on paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:40] <gabrielcz> anyone can try to help me please?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !ask|gabrielcz,
[13:41] <gabrielcz> I have my co workers ...
[13:41] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Then you already have multiarch enabled, you can skip the "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" step and go on to the next one.
[13:41] <gabrielcz> I can not get write permission on a samba share
[13:41] <gabrielcz> :D
[13:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Strange as it does not work Pici though
[13:42] <gabrielcz> I don´t get it.! I just did my question :D
[13:42] <zykotick9> Chathurga: and is this gnome2 or gnome3?  gnome2 uses metacity, gnome3 uses mutter (i believe)
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !details|gabrielcz,
[13:42] <gabrielcz> Im doing that cfhowlett
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[13:42] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: yes, that
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> is that to be trusted for all applications?
[13:42] <gabrielcz> I have problem with samba server give write users
[13:43] <gabrielcz> what else? :)
[13:43] <Wiz_KeeD> strange as searching with google for that command just skype shows up
[13:44] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: That is canonical's partner repository. Nothing is going to be installed from there unless you install it.
[13:44] <gabrielcz> Can anyone help me give users white access to a samba server?
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Who's Canonical and when do I know if it's using that repository when I do another apt-get install?
[13:45] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Canonical is the company that funds development of Ubuntu.
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's not included in the standard repositories because...
[13:46] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: because there are mostly commercial software packages on there that don't go through the normal packaging process.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, because it's PARTNER software not canonical software.
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> yet they are reliable
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, partners are vetted, yes.
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm veery slowly starting to understand but it seems I should devote a lot more time and interest in this process
[13:47] <Pici> !partner | Wiz_KeeD
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> okay, installing skype this way
[13:47] <neq8376> skype is non-free, proprietary, closed source software
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> to update a certain package i should do apt-get install package right?
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> in order to not update all of them
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, correct
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> closed source software, got it neq8376
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Just like the wireless drivers that did not work? :(
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, well, actually, sudo apt-get install software
[13:48] <Chathurga> This is the commands I run when the ISO is being created: http://pastebin.com/FPwLJwWH
[13:48] <neq8376> Wiz_KeeD: i only buy hardware that runs with open source drivers
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> A bit too late for that neq8376 :)
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> !dropbox
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> ubottu knows nothing about dropbox, eeek
[13:49] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: Please /msg ubottu instead of randomly trying commands.  The rest of us know these commands exist before trying them here.
[13:49] <WACOMalt> Fow anyone wondering, I figured out how to download from technet via command line.   I ad to include login info directly in the URL. and replace the @ sign in my email with + and special characters in the password with their % codes
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> okay Pici, sorry
[13:49] <WACOMalt> pain in the butt but it worked
[13:50] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, might be worth posting a tutorial in the forums.  glad you fingered it out.
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> so no documented information about dropbox
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> I see there's a nautilius and dropbox integration, but that doesn't mean it installs dropbox right?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, for this one, you go the dropbox site.
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I see it has a 64 bit deb file
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Is this truly trusted? Not like the skype one? :))
[13:52] <cfhowlett> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, it's as trusted as skype is ..
[13:52] <Chathurga> I tried putting gnome-session; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel but this fails. I put . /etc/X11/Xsession; exec metacity; exec gnome-panel in .xinitrc gnome starts but metacyity and gnome-panel do not.
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> And how does downloading it and double-clicking it any different fomthe dpkg -i thingy?
[13:53] <zykotick9> Chathurga: "exec gnome-session" should be all you need...
[13:53] <WACOMalt> so curl -L<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:55] <geirha> WACOMalt: You can use a .netrc file to avoid putting the username and password in the url. See curl's -n option
[13:56] <WACOMalt> oh neat. Thanks for that... that totally woulda saved me so much time
[13:56] <Wiz_KeeD> Could anyone tell me the difference between clicking on the .deb file and doing dpkg -i package.deb in console?
[13:57] <boxmein> Hey, my ubuntu 13.04 is not utilizing my wireless card.  I have a feeling it was with the installation of some other drivers, so tg3 < b43. Could you point me to what I should do next? Also, here's some data. http://pastebin.com/mfyRgeGF
[13:58] <boxmein> the driver used to be b43 I am almost sure yet it's tg3 now and I am leaning towards blaming the entire thing on that
[13:59] <andreligne> anyone using gala here?
[14:00] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: hm, i'm no expert but i guess ther is no difference, since .deb packages should be openend by your package manager anyway
[14:01] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: so it's either "open this deb with the package manager" or "package manager, please open this file" - that's how i see it, but you better check back with the experts her
[14:01] <Benkinooby> *here
[14:04] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:05] <Wiz_KeeD> I wish some would answer Benkinooby :))
[14:06] <SuperLag> I'm using Pidgin, and in Unity, the "tray" icon isn't showing up. Is that a known issue?
[14:06] <siberiannerd> the things is sdb is the drive on sata i installed from and currently running live from
[14:06] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <FloodBot1> zhangxun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <zhangxun> brb
[14:07] <Benkinooby> Wiz_KeeD: well, most of not all people here are helping for free - so if no one answers, thei either don't know, or don't have time for you
[14:07] <zhangxun> what
[14:07] <zhangxun> what
[14:07] <zhangxun> what's matter?
[14:08] <zhangxun> hello?
[14:08] <helmut_> hi
[14:08] <zhangxun> hi
[14:08] <caodepalha> hi everyone! is it possible to change desktop enviroments and keep programs opened running?
[14:08] <zhangxun> for example?
[14:09] <zhangxun> I don't understand
[14:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me how to install the broadcom wireless driver since by default Ubuntu 12.04 64 could not install it by default?
[14:09] <siberiannerd> yeah in theory if x sessions were handled in different way i suspect, so most probably no
[14:10] <caodepalha> i use ubuntustudio to make music but when i'm just doing other stuff i like to use the gnome desktop. if i'm on ubuntustudio and want to change to gnome can i keep the programs open while changing?
[14:10] <SuperLag> caodepalha: I doubt it. The programs you start in one DE are child processes of that DE's session. So when you kill that DE to switch to the other one, all the child processes die.
[14:11] <caodepalha> and is there a way to remember and reopen programs from the last session?
[14:11] <SuperLag> caodepalha: Now... if these are console-based programs, like something you kick off from the command-line, then you can use something like screen or tmux... and start that app from a screen/tmux session, and that would persist across your change of DE
[14:11] <zhangxun> I agree with SuperLag
[14:11] <siberiannerd> caodepalha, why not to have 2 different users for that purpose and keep things opened for another user's session?
[14:12] <SuperLag> caodepalha: ^^ good idea ^^
[14:12] <zhangxun> haha
[14:12] <zhangxun> where are You?
[14:12] <lesshaste> where do I find a printing option saying double sided should be default?
[14:12] <lesshaste> I can't see it in "printing"
[14:12] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:13] <boxmein> ugh
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Dropbox says, in order to run dropbox you must install the proprietary daemon...what the hell is that
[14:14] <caodepalha> you mean creating another user and allow programs between both?
[14:14] <siberiannerd> dropbox or daemon? or propietary?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> !dropbox
[14:15] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: Okay, so.... you want Dropbox. What's the problem?
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what dropbox says when I launch it for the first time
[14:15] <WACOMalt> Dang I was wrong. even that doesnt work
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dropbox needs nautilus integration on gnome
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> NEEDS it?
[14:15] <boxmein> ugh getting wireless driver stuff to work on linux is a pain
[14:15] <boxmein> at least it works on windows
[14:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Then I should have installed it with that, but someone here suggested I should get the deb from the dropbox site :)
[14:15] <BluesKaj> well it's easier
[14:15] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: actually, didn't we have this discussion just the other day? :)
[14:16] <SuperLag> oh wait
[14:16] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: are you on 13.04?
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> 12.04 SuperLag
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> 64 bi
[14:16] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, yes , but I use kde so it's differnt since dolphin isn't setup to integrate with dropbox
[14:17] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yes, you should use the nautilus integration
[14:17] <ferrieres> Hi everybody !
[14:17] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: there are ways to do it without, but it's *much* easier to just use what they provide
[14:17] <zhangxun> Keep on question
[14:17] <ferrieres> Slow rendering since 4-5 days now (back to work) ... any help ?
[14:18] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, so now because I've listened someone on this channel to download dropbox from the site and install it, was the wrong move right?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[14:19] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: no, not at all...
[14:19] <CiscOH> does anyone know of a good how to guide for creating an IPSec tunnel between two ubuntu servers? this will not bridge local LANs. I have 1 VPS i wish to connect to a local server. This will carry email, NFS traffic
[14:20] <ferrieres> I try to find what has run bad on my comp. Seems that having a ATI/AMD is not a good idea with the 12.04 but perhapps it's the main pb...
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Now it's downloading using the .deb I dowloaded and radn myself, now what?
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the BEST move now...
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, that site should help you install it
[14:20] <boxmein> Okay scratch my last statement. I might've got jockey to work.
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> And it's stuck on 16% moving really slow
[14:20] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: what's stuck on 16%?
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> the dropbox.deb file downloaded form the site which is downloading dropbox itself when running
[14:21] <Wiz_KeeD> 18%
[14:21] <CiscOH> i was hoping for something less bloated than OpenVPN for UDP transport
[14:21] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD, being a deb file just click on it when it's finished downloading and it will install itself
[14:21] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, what's wrong with openvpn?
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> So it makes NO DIFFERENCE at all if i install it like this, or through the command line, or through the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads and does it for me...
[14:22] <Wiz_KeeD> Because the installation might work, but last time I ended up with some nasty errors that appeared eevery 10 minutes or so
[14:23] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, it is using too much memory for my taste
[14:23] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, ssh tunnel maybe?
[14:23] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: I don't understand what you think the problem is. Download the .deb, install it. Start Dropbox, it will have you restart nautilus, and then register or log in if you have an account already... it's not complex.
[14:23] <CiscOH> ssh is tcp
[14:24] <CiscOH> i need udp. tcp will add too much overhead
[14:24] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: is the download process itself where the trouble is?
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> There are 3 totally different ways of installing the same software, before installing now it showed me some missing libraris and that proprietary daemon, and I don't feel comfortable installing without knowing what's hapening or what's the best method
[14:24] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, well do you need security or nicer response and resource consumption?
[14:24] <Wiz_KeeD> If i come back and say "Dropbox is giving a lot of errors" and i'm asked how i installed it then i will be persecuted for doing it badly, then maybe even some repository conflicts as it is custom to happen
[14:25] <Wiz_KeeD> And I want to avoid complications but being very thorugh in what I do
[14:25] <JMichaelX> i have a home server running ubuntu 12.04.3. it has 2 audio adapters, one is NVIDIA (digital), and the other is a c-media USB audio adapter. i configured alsa-base.conf to give index 0 to the USB adapter. audio is working, but i cannot adjust volume... using mpd or mocp, etc. any suggestions?
[14:25] <LordDragon> hey all
[14:25] <LordDragon> i am getting a blank screen in the "canonical partner" sectin of software center
[14:25] <LordDragon> i went into "sources" and checked the partner boxes
[14:25] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: right. In my opinion, and BluesKaj seems to echo the same sentiment, getting the .deb file from the dropbox.com site, and installing it that way is best.
[14:25] <LordDragon> did a apt-get update
[14:25] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, i am not sure what that is supposed to mean. i am simply asking if anyone knows of an easy guide for setting up IPSec tunnels between 2 ubuntu serves'
[14:26] <LordDragon> but its still blank after reboot
[14:26] <CiscOH> servers*
[14:26] <LordDragon> anyone know why it might be blank?
[14:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ok SuperLag, thanks for the vote of confidence!
[14:26] <Wiz_KeeD> I will wait and see
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> After it finishes installing I can sudo apt-get install the nautilius integration?
[14:27] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, yeah but at the same time you're not comfortable about using openvpn complaining for your taste of ram consumption, do you notice the dissonance in the context?
[14:27] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: it will set up the integration for you automatically. When you double-click on the .deb file, it will download all the dependencies and do the magic.
[14:28] <Wiz_KeeD> Ok then, I will wait and see
[14:28] <LordDragon> is there an apt-get command i can use to install flash?
[14:29] <zihubu> lol
[14:29] <SuperLag> LordDragon: I believe that would be flashplugin-installer
[14:29] <nickguletskii> Hi, what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?
[14:29] <LordDragon> SuperLag: thanks ill try that
[14:29] <SuperLag> LordDragon: i.e. apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:29] <genii> LordDragon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:29] <siberiannerd> LordDeath, you're looking for flashplugin-installer probably?
[14:30] <genii> LordDragon: ( Will get Flash plus some other stuff )
[14:30] <SuperLag> LordDragon: yeah, what genii said is more thorough
[14:30] <LordDragon> thanks genii
[14:30] <siberiannerd> oh sorry too many lords here
[14:30] <SuperLag> listen to genii
[14:30] <genii> LordDragon: np
[14:30] <SuperLag> siberiannerd: and not enough ladies
[14:30] <CiscOH> siberiannerd, my statement was that it was using too much memory for the task. one tunnel to another server. i am not connecting other clients to it.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I forgot the name of the bot
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> !adobe-air
[14:31] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: ubottu
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> trying to install adobe air in 12.04 64 bits
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> ughh ugly
[14:31] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yuck. I feel sorry for you, that you need Adobe Air.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I really do need it unfortunately :(
[14:32] <siberiannerd> CiscOH, the very best implememntation in context of security is openvpn which also supports compression and udp as you probably know, ssh brings the same degree of secure but you still insist to get a lighter version of something similar, right?
[14:32] <stewbydoo2> so my boss just told me ubuntu server is less secure than microsoft servers..true or false?
[14:33] <stewbydoo2> he said unix in general has much more exploits then windows
[14:33] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, what is the command to get infomration about a certain package on what it does? short description
[14:33] <nickguletskii> hmm, could someone please answer a small question? what steps should I take if a bug has been falsely marked as "fix released"?
[14:33] <stewbydoo2> I need someone to tell me if he is full of shit or if he is right
[14:33] <Sandfly> Hello - I have just upgraded my version of openvpn on ubuntu 1204.3 LTS - I followed the instuctions on the official page http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/openvpn/download - then i did apt-get update & upgrade and basically my entire system has been updated - it looks like it is all ok - in future could i use a command like "apt-get upgrade openvpn" to avoid my entire system being updated ? - thanks
[14:33] <BluesKaj> stewbydoo2, your boiss drank the MS kool ade
[14:33] <DJones> stewbydoo2: Not really a question for this channel, you should probably join #ubuntu-offtopic for a better discussion on that
[14:34] <jcbjoe> does ubuntu have an app thats like itunes ?
[14:34] <CiscOH> i am looking for the lightest possible IPSEC/UDP solution for a single server to server tunnel
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> apt-cache show it was
[14:35] <BluesKaj> !itunes
[14:35] <siberiannerd> stewbydoo2, the things is that it doesn't really matter due to the fact that linux systems are harder to exploit because of overall environmental complexities, but that's just my subjective point of view, however the whole discussion is pointless because there is no such thing as "exploit for linux"
[14:36] <davidbrooke> I need some help with a tv remote control and udev....using 13.04 and 13.10...udev assigns the remote control as a keyboard and I can't use the remote with lirc....in past versions of ubuntu...udev didn't bother the remote and I could use lirc...any ideas?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> is this a good tutorial?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air
[14:36] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:36] <g105b> Can anyone recommend iPod software? gtkpod crashes, rhythmbox crashes, banshee works (but the ipod skips after 1 second of each song).
[14:36] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: are you seriously in need of Air... THAT bad? No non-Air alternative?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> non, tied to it with my life
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> none*
[14:37] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: I would avoid it. Adobe has even stopped development on it.
[14:37] <yeehi> i have a desktop/gui. what command do I use to find out which hardware/driver combination is providing my graphics capability?
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I am very well aware of that
[14:38] <SuperLag> yeehi: lspci | grep -i vga will show you your video card, lsmod will show you want kernel modules are loaded.
[14:38] <SuperLag> s/want/what
[14:38] <yeehi> thanks, SuperLag. What will show up with intel integrated graphics?
[14:39] <siberiannerd> yeehi, you can find your video adapters via `lspci` command and knowing it you can find out which modules may be responsible for i, complete list of them you can get via `lsmod`
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yeehi, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[14:39] <genii> yeehi: In a terminal: sudo lshw -C display    ... the line which reads configuration:     shows the driver in use
[14:39]  * genii sips and ponders how many ways to skin a cat
[14:40] <yeehi> thanks, BluesKaj - let me try that. I know there is an nvidia card. it looks like it might be nouveau drivers... video                  19390  1 nouveau
[14:40] <sorakun> hello
[14:41] <siberiannerd> yeehi, is it a laptop?
[14:41] <clark__> hi
[14:41] <yeehi> desktop, siberiannerd
[14:41] <siberiannerd> good
[14:41] <BluesKaj> yeehi, nouveau is default for nvidia cards on new installs , mostly.
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> is it safe to sudo apt-get install ia32-libs?
[14:41] <Wiz_KeeD> it installs ALL 32bit libraries?
[14:41] <yeehi> The command did not provide any output, BluesKaj:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[14:42] <ky7en> is there any 3D terminal for 3D TV on ubuntu ? :>
[14:42] <JoshDreamland> Anyone think they can help me with my printer? It seems to not be receiving any instructions.
[14:42] <siberiannerd> please answe him someone im begging
[14:42] <BluesKaj> yeehi, i get this Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[14:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Any input?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> yeehi, try dkms status , or glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:43] <clark__> hi, can somebody help me to configure password complexity on ubuntu 12. i am facing problem mentioned here http://askubuntu.com/questions/298886/gnome-does-not-enforce-password-complexity-in-12-04
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> no one?
[14:44] <yeehi> BluesKaj - glx info tells me opengl vendor vmware open gl renderer string: Gallium on llvmpipe open gl version string 2.1 mesa
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yeehi, ok look in the software center for additional or recommended drivers
[14:46] <jcbjoe> whats the comand that list uuids i know lsblk isn't it
[14:47] <yeehi> i will try that BluesKaj - how about this package: NVidia binary X.Org driver ('current' driver)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid
[14:47] <genii> Wiz_KeeD: You probably want instead to make sure multiarch-support is installed. Then the system just autodecides what packages are needed ( 64 or 32 bit).
[14:47] <ewet> hi, does the gnome activities thing honor mimeapps.list? because if I open an opden document template in nautilus it's starting LibreOffice but if I open it in the activities (search) it opens up in "Documents"
[14:47] <Wiz_KeeD> it is installed genii !
[14:47] <ewet> i'm using the ubuntu-gnome spin
[14:47] <nownot> how do I view last login time / date for a specific user that might span back a few months
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yeehi, usually the nvidia-current driver is the correct one for most cards, unless you wnat bleednig edge
[14:48] <yeehi> great BluesKaj! Let me try it!
[14:48] <SuperLag> genii: oooohhh... I like that "lshw" command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6097322/
[14:48] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:49] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: yes, that will install *all* 32-bit libs
[14:49] <SuperLag> genii: I thought the library detection didn't come until 13.10? or am I mistaken?
[14:50] <genii> Wiz_KeeD: If you need to specify if a package to be installed is 32 or 64 bit, append either :i386   or :amd64
[14:50] <genii> SuperLag: It's been around a while now
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> ughh
[14:50] <SuperLag> genii: apt-get install kitchen_sink:amd64 :)
[14:51] <clark__> @nownot - try - lastlog
[14:52] <genii> multiarch has been around since about 12.04
[14:54] <clark__> can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04  ????
[14:56] <nownot> clark__: lastlog -t 30 only shows current login, not the past months. Am I using this command wrong?
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, dropbox downloag 57% :)))
[14:57] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[14:58] <clark__> @nownot@ perhaps you can grab from /var/log/auth.log
[14:58] <clark__> @notnow will show current. you are right
[14:58] <emr> Hello, how i can display 2, 3 and 4 columns from dpkg -l
[14:59] <Linux> Hey just woundering is there a Web Site or any thing that will Teach u how to Debug stuff that is not workin properly or any thing
[15:00] <ferrieres> hi ! seems that my computer is overloaded by process that shouldn't occupy it that much (xorg, ircII, htop, polkitd, dbus-daemon...)
[15:00] <clark__> @nownot you can grep required log from there
[15:00] <ferrieres> Something like 40% of each core
[15:00] <nownot> clark__: yes, trying to find the correct term to grep on
[15:00] <ferrieres> an idea anybody ?
[15:02] <ferrieres> ok, i have to add the laptop is not very young (ProBook 4710) but a week ago, it was running normal (with compiz and gnome) but... things have run badly and *progressively*
[15:03] <ferrieres> assistance needed, pleaaase !
[15:03] <clark__> can somebody confirm that gnome does not enforce password complexity in 12-04 ????
[15:04] <ferrieres> Anybody in here to help ?
[15:05] <decipherstatic> Is anyone else have issues with mouse lag/click bugs with the latest ubuntu updates?  I'm running 12.04
[15:05] <rramalho> hi there
[15:06] <rramalho> is anyone here that has experience with ubuntu server on a VMWare ESX ?
[15:06] <nownot> clark__: is there another command you can think of grep Accepted /var/log/auth.log only shows current login and I know within the past month there have been more
[15:07] <rramalho> I've built a VM from a 12.04 ISO on a ESX 5.1 update 1
[15:07] <rramalho> I can connect everywhere with the guest
[15:07] <rramalho> but I can't ping the guest from the network
[15:08] <clark__> @notnow auth.log is log file. it must contain all authentication activities since you installed your OS. If not deleted/modified by root
[15:08] <clark__> @notnow which OS are you using
[15:10] <BrixSat> hello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> How do you properly install Oracle Java 6 or newer? :))
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> OpenJDK i think
[15:13] <BrixSat> Wiz_KeeD:  apt-get install java ?
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm using the software center just to be safe
[15:13] <glambert> eh
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> that should be ok I gues
[15:14] <Johnny_Linux> its the newest
[15:14] <glambert> what's wrong with apt-get?
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> Wiz_KeeD, apt-get via terminal is safe :b
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> yup
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nothing wrong with it
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> he probably prefers GUI is all
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> I might misinterpret some names and get something else but no that much of a deal
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> nah, i love console
[15:14] <Ari-Yang> ah, fair enough
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> just a bit scared since the accident :(
[15:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Great...dropbox download froze at 57%...now what?
[15:16] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Accident?
[15:16] <BrixSat> hello when i install the recomended driver via aditional drivers i get "WARNING: /sys/module/cedarview_gfx/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind cedarview_gfx driver"
[15:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I do not know what I am supposed to do in these kind of sitiuations...
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> I downloaded the 64bit .deb from dropbox, started it, it started downloading, now it froze at 57% for 15 minutes
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> If i cancel then what, I have to purge what has been downloaded/installed so far, i try to redo the install? i try to install it via console? will it conflict now because of this....
[15:17] <Wiz_KeeD> etc etc
[15:18] <AndChat|517376> How can i fully install dropbox for ubuntu fat clients?
[15:18] <unknown101> How can i hide my self in the network?
[15:18] <Johnny_Linux> Wiz_KeeD  what did you do to deserve such things.
[15:18] <unknown101> how can i have my self on network?
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Johnny_Linux, I have no clue, it's just the tip
[15:19] <unknown101> how can i hide my self on network***
[15:19] <jhutchins> !dropbox
[15:19] <Wiz_KeeD> Really, what is one supposed to do in this sitiuation?
[15:19] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: how are you downloading it ?
[15:20] <abner_> ..
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, downloaded the ubuntu 64bit.deb from dropbox.com and launching the deb with double-click in gui revelaed this download
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> someone from here suggested I do so, everyone agreed
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> now it's frozen at 57% for more than 20 minutes
[15:20] <jhutchins> unknown101: You can't, of you're online the network has to know, which means you can be found.
[15:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so it's basically pulling in dependencies ?
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> I have no idea what it's doing, it froze at 57% for a very long time
[15:20] <unknown101> bs...There always a way to hide your self from the network
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> It's just the gui with a silly orange bar
[15:20] <Wiz_KeeD> no actual verbose information
[15:20] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: ok, so close that and try again
[15:21] <jhutchins> unknown101: Nope.  If you're on, someone can find you.  The only way not to be found is not to be on.
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, no negative consequences>
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[15:21] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no, nothing that can't be undone if there is any sort of problem
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> of canceling such a proccess midway
[15:21] <Wiz_KeeD> pfuu....
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> A better way to install dropbox than? through cmd? as they suggest on the site?
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> at least I have some information there?
[15:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: just re-try it, see if it hangs at the same point, then move forward from there
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> or install from repositories the dropbox-nautilius integration that downloads the packages
[15:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: stop rushing and changing
[15:22] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> brb, i'll restart
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia
[15:26] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you didn't need to reboot - just kill that process
[15:26] <mhd> I have a machine running 12.04 LTS that doesn't have working sound. Most of the usual hacks such as killing Pulse doesn't work
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, now about that I installed adobe air and wanted to restart a whole other things
[15:26] <ikonia> adobe air....come on
[15:26] <mhd> I tried the Sound Troubleshooting but that didn't fix it
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> At this stage I have dropbox on the left in the menu, and when i click it it says "In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon"
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, i need it badly :(
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why are you pulling in this unsupported junk
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot get paid without it XD
[15:27] <unknown101> I have a keyboard that is not working with ubntu 13:10
[15:27] <Daniel1_> Hello, I have some questions about Ubuntu programming and Bug fixes. can I ask here or I have to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know it's crap, i've passed it and it's working (phew)!!
[15:27] <unknown101> any way to make it work?
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: read the top line of the adobe air website
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: beginning June 14 2011, Adobe AIR is no longer supported for desktop Linux distributions.
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know ikonia i know
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> I know buddy, nothing I can do :(
[15:27] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: of course there is - don't use it
[15:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Is it too late to remove that and install the dropbox from the software center?
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> haha :))
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: either a.) use something else b.) run it on a supported platform
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not laughing, - I warned you about installing junk from bad software sources
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: installing something that's been dead since 2011 = unwise
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> It's unsupported that doesn't mean it's junk or malware
[15:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no-one said malware
[15:28] <Wiz_KeeD> I know, it's the only ting i NEED
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> now moving on to dropbox
[15:29] <ikonia> nah, you're making a mess, you can make a mess on your own
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> right, whatever
[15:29] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:32] <John_Robinson> How to start programming for Ubuntu?
[15:32] <ikonia> John_Robinson: learning a valid language and fixing bugs is a good introduction
[15:32] <linux_helper2881> when u install a program from Playonlinux where is it Located?
[15:33] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: in your wine directory normally
[15:33] <kostkon> John_Robinson: developer.ubuntu.com
[15:33] <linux_helper2881> ok
[15:34] <John_Robinson> ikonia: what programming languages are needed?
[15:34] <ikonia> John_Robinson: I think you need to do some research if you're asking that question
[15:34] <xacto> hi, I need help with l2tp vpn setup.. Tried couple of things, searched my friend google.. can't connect.  Installed that "L2TP IPsec VPN Manager 1.0.9" package with applet from Werner Jaeger, ÙPretty sure it was configured correctly... still can'T connect. Maybe something special i forgot? Someone can help on this? thx
[15:35] <dagon_> Hey guys! I'm having a little bit of trouble with some vnc. I'm trying to connect with vnc to my desktop running ubuntu 13.04 through my macbook pro. I've tried both the built in server connector and teamviewer but nothing works. There's nothing wrong with the vncserver. Ideas?
[15:35] <ikonia> dagon_: firewall ?
[15:35] <John_Robinson> ikonia: what i a, asking is, do I need to join Launchpad now? How to learn about bug fixing?
[15:35] <xacto> dagon_ maybe your firewall on router?
[15:36] <ikonia> xacto: who said anything about him using a router
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: if you want to comment/submit a fix, yes
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: again - basic research will cover this
[15:36] <John_Robinson> ikonia: any tutorial link please?
[15:36] <ikonia> John_Robinson: tutorial on what ?
[15:37] <xacto> suggestion..  like two question in one.. ;)
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, using the software center (or downloading with apt-get nautilius dropbox integration is much better and faster)
[15:37] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: where on earth are you, that your download is so slow??
[15:37] <John_Robinson> ikonia: I am new to programming in Linux, n00b so far.
[15:37] <ikonia> John_Robinson: what languages do you write in ?
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> It's not that, it's super fast, especially internally but the proccess with the deb from the site was PAINFULLy slow for some reason
[15:38] <Wiz_KeeD> this one installed in like under a minute or so...
[15:38] <John_Robinson> ikonia: C, C++, Python etc
[15:38] <ikonia> John_Robinson: great, so that should be really useful to the ubuntu project.
[15:38] <ikonia> John_Robinson: find some bugs on launchpad and dive in
[15:39] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: that's very odd
[15:39] <linux_helper2881> Ok... When u Install something like Steam from Software Center where is it Located?
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah odd indeed SuperLag
[15:39] <John_Robinson> ikonia: Ok, Thanks.
[15:39] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: the binaries are normally in /usr/bin - but it will depend what part you want to access
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> Since it said that it used the dropbox site to get the main package
[15:39] <dagon_> ikonia, xacto; Nope. At best I've gotten a grey window. Can't really figure out what the heck is wrong..
[15:39] <snoop> hi all
[15:39] <linux_helper2881> all of it mainly workin on fixing problems
[15:40] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:40] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: why don't you say the problem you'e got and people will try to help
[15:40] <ikonia> dagon_: ok, so you think you're getting an initial connection ?
[15:40] <dagon_> ikonia: yup. It connects but all I see is a grey windows with a mouse pointer
[15:41] <dagon_> window*
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: so it renders the mouse but nothing else, that's odd
[15:41] <dagon_> ikonia: it sure is
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: out of interest, can you connect to the vnc server locally ?
[15:41] <dagon_> yup
[15:41] <dagon_> as far as I know
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: and it draws the display properly ?
[15:41] <ikonia> dagon_: can you test it ?
[15:42] <dagon_> ikonia: gonna try it now
[15:42] <snoop> wie kann ich channel liste laden ??
[15:42] <ikonia> !de | snoop
[15:42] <linux_helper2881> well Steam windows games wont work it says <Game> is not compatible for this platform. but for Play On Linux it will work so ima doin some programing to make it work for Wine also for the people that has problems in the furute
[15:42] <snoop> hi
[15:42] <linux_helper2881> wont work for Wine a lone
[15:42] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: you're doing some "programming" to make it work /?
[15:43] <linux_helper2881> well ya kinda thats what i do best and dont ask how i make it work but ima getting close
[15:43] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: what are you changing ?
[15:43] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: the guys who maintain wine are in the channel #winehq
[15:43] <TsarObomba> I fullly understand how sudo works etc, but lets just skip the whole speech on sudo security and stuff.  Can I disable allowing sudo -i somehow?
[15:43] <linux_helper2881> well Login screen is not workin atm
[15:44] <ikonia> linux_helper2881: so i fyou want to make changes to wine upstream, those are the guys to talk to
[15:44] <TsarObomba> I have root login setup, I disallow root from ssh, and I want to disable sudo -i for extra measures
[15:44] <siberiannerd> it's funny how i never get support for hours, days and even weeks coming here lol
[15:44] <linux_helper2881> ok but wineHQ is dead as heck they do replay to ya at all
[15:44] <TsarObomba> siberiannerd: happens all the time to me
[15:44] <ikonia> TsarObomba: doesn't -i only work if it's ALL:ALL
[15:45] <siberiannerd> TsarObomba, you're not alone, mate
[15:45] <TsarObomba> ikonia: not sure. But i still want it to be able to run any other command but that
[15:45] <Darkstar1> Anyone know how I can find out which version of swftools I have on my system?
[15:45] <TsarObomba> siberiannerd: it seems like if its a semi complex question, it gets pushed to the back of the line unless someone with real knowledge is around
[15:45] <ikonia> TsarObomba: from a security point of view, if you still have ALL:ALL disabling -i won't fix anything as you could still su - iwth sudo
[15:45] <TsarObomba> like ikonia :)
[15:46] <TsarObomba> ikonia: eh true
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I don't beleve you can disable the -i flag with the ALL:ALL rule in place.
[15:46] <TsarObomba> nevermind then
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: (and to be honest, I don't see why you would if you leave ALL:ALL in place)
[15:46] <siberiannerd> nothing fixed here for me but "how to configure the panel in unity i never used?"
[15:46] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.
[15:46] <ikonia> siberiannerd: stop moaning please
[15:46] <siberiannerd> ikonia, but i'm close to start crying
[15:46] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I'll have a prod though as I'm interested now as in what allows/blocks the -i
[15:46] <TsarObomba> ikonia: because im not completely security concious and more lazy than anything, and im not worried about local security, i allow passwordless sudo (i dont want the speech, so dont)
[15:47] <dagon_> ikonia: hmm, doesn't work now. I gotta go atm but I'll be back later.
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: i would think you could do allow all and have a blacklist somehow
[15:47] <ikonia> TsarObomba: I wouldn't waste time disabling -i (or trying to) if you allow passwordless sudo and ALL:ALL
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: but, better yet, im gonna leave passwordless sudo, block root logins, and only allow security key logins from ssh
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ikonia: it was only gonna be for remote
[15:48] <TsarObomba> if someone hacked the ssh login
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: remote/local doesn't make a difference
[15:48] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: So you're all up and Dropbox'd now?
[15:48] <jhutchins> siberiannerd: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[15:48] <TsarObomba> but im changing it to security keys only for ssh
[15:48] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone at all...?
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ikonia: uh, sure it does
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: disabling (trying to) -i is a waste of effort for passwordless ALL:ALL staying in place.
[15:48] <TsarObomba> Im not worried aboyut anyone in my hoiuse doing something nefarious
[15:48] <Wiz_KeeD> SuperLag, seems so, it's syncing and creating the neccesairy folders, the icon on top works good, no errors so far so aparently it's good!
[15:48] <ikonia> TsarObomba: you could look at changing the ALL:ALL:ALL so that differnet hosts have different rules
[15:48] <TsarObomba> Because they arent smart enough to even work linux
[15:48] <SuperLag> Wiz_KeeD: excellent
[15:48] <ikonia> if you wanted to seperate local/no-local rules
[15:48] <TsarObomba> eh, thats true
[15:49] <Wiz_KeeD> The download from dropbox site and .deb run was slower and more painful aparently
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ki think i will stick with ssh keys only
[15:49] <ikonia> eg: box1:all:all box2:all:profile
[15:49] <ikonia> TsarObomba: ssh keys are nothing to do with sudo
[15:49] <TsarObomba> no crap
[15:49] <TsarObomba> But they stop people from logging in if they get my password
[15:49] <jhutchins> Wiz_KeeD: Consider what that might mean about retrieving your files from dropbox if downloading the client is that hard.
[15:49] <TsarObomba> which protects sudo
[15:49] <ikonia> TsarObomba: you can make it as open/profile drive/locked down as you want
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ssh is the entry point
[15:50] <TsarObomba> if i close the entry point, sudoi is useless
[15:50] <TsarObomba> period
[15:50] <TsarObomba> Lets not turn this into a pointless debate, please.
[15:50] <ikonia> TsarObomba: no-one is debating anything, I just answered your sudo question
[15:50] <TsarObomba> If I only allow ssh keys, and dont allow password logins, im good
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ikonia: and ive been saying fdor 5 minutes now i will just skip sudo aand use sshkeys only
[15:50] <ikonia> TsarObomba: it's as secure as you think it is, and your box to open/close as you see fit
[15:51] <ikonia> TsarObomba: what do you mean "skip sudo" ??
[15:51] <mustmodify> I am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> crimeney sakes
[15:51] <TsarObomba> ikonia: is engrish not your first language?
[15:52] <mustmodify> load average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage
[15:52] <mustmodify> and spare memory
[15:53] <Desez2tpunk> ......Anyone at all able to help???
[15:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone here good with rsa keys and all that?
[15:55] <EdwardSnowden> yes, I'm the rsa key professor
[15:55] <mustmodify> EdwardSnowden: rofl nice
[15:56] <EdwardSnowden> yea
[15:56] <mwallacesd> hi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?
[15:56] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[15:56] <Desez2tpunk> Anyone able to refer me to installing nvidia video card drivers? Been awhile since I've used Ubuntu, not finding any info on google.
[15:57] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, nvidia-current package
[15:57] <Desez2tpunk> Thank you.
[15:57] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, wait, is it a laptop?
[15:57] <Desez2tpunk> Desktop siberiannerd
[15:58] <siberiannerd> Desez2tpunk, alright then
[15:58] <Desez2tpunk> 650Ti to be exact.
[15:58] <fabiano_> hello!!
[15:58] <siberiannerd> was asking in case there is infamous optimus thing
[15:59] <siberiannerd> hey, fabiano_
[15:59] <quick-> I have 13.04 and i have forgotten my password . How can i reset it ?
[15:59] <kostkon> !password
[15:59] <siberiannerd> quick-, single mode http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[16:00] <Wiz_KeeD> What is the difference and what should catch my eye when installing multiple libraries and i'm presented with 1. Packages will be installed, 2.Suggested packages 3.following NEW packages will be installed?
[16:00] <mwallacesd> hi there, I have an incident with 12.04. I created a new user, copy all the old user data with cp -R and than change the permitions with chown -R. The problem is that the new user  CANNOT open Log File Viewer. What I have to do in order to fix it?
[16:01] <fabiano_> can u know how use quite ubuntu?
[16:01] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, basically if you're not familiar what are those packages do exactly in terms of their relationships, just press Y
[16:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I am reluctant to press Y if i don't know something
[16:02] <EdwardSnowden> mwallacesd, what Log File Viewer?
[16:02] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, the only option is to read each package's description  and understand what is written in there
[16:03] <Wiz_KeeD> I understand siberiannerd
[16:04] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, keep an eye on those packages that will be installed and correlation between the desired effect hah, you may catch the thing that is missing
[16:04] <z0ran> can anyone tell me, am i going to have any problem if i use zsh as root shell...im using ubuntu 12.04
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, last time i removed some libsql thing, didn't pay attention to what it removed
[16:05] <siberiannerd> z0ran, that shouldn't be a problem (no experience of this here)
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> And by the time i saw it removing python firefox and gnome it was too late :))
[16:05] <z0ran> thanks siberiannerd
[16:05] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, suggested packages are more often just recommendations on expanding functional and such
[16:06] <EdwardSnowden> z0ran, zsh is a little different, you'll get errors if you run bash scripts
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> One question, if i made a key with ssh keygen rsa thing and added it to multiple servers
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Now that i've formatted it's changed, but i have the backup of the home directory where the old ones are saved
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i "translpant" them?
[16:07] <z0ran> EdwardSnowden, thanks for that info, yes, i use a lot bash scripts...so i think i'll reconsider and stay with bash
[16:07] <siberiannerd> z0ran, why do you need zsh at all?
[16:07] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, just copy the key to the .ssh directory
[16:08] <z0ran> just to try siberiannerd...but no, i think i'll stay with bash
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I did that EdwardSnowden , didn't sem to work
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I copied the entire contents even the known_hosts yet it doesn't match
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[16:08] <mwallacesd> Hi there, I lost my connection.
[16:08] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, did you set the permissions? It won't work if the file is has +w
[16:09] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, if the key is writable that is
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff EdwardSnowden you may very well be right!!
[16:09] <siberiannerd> z0ran, hah trying stuff that may have a system-wide effect is not a good thing man
[16:09] <antar_> hi people is there any ide for cpp that support gui programming ? on Ubuntu
[16:09] <anew> how can i tail -F into a blank file instead of output on console ?
[16:10] <antar_> anew, use >>
[16:10] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, Eclipse?
[16:10] <mwallacesd> A new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.
[16:10] <mwallacesd> What I need to do in order to fix it????
[16:10] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, is eclipse support gui
[16:11] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097143/
[16:11] <anew> holy shit edwardsnowden is in this channel
[16:11] <anew> does the media know about this ?
[16:11] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, you're trying to write gui apps or you want an ide that has a gui?
[16:11] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, i got a lot of errors when using graphic.h , gtk.h and qt
[16:12] <antar_> EdwardSnowden, Ide that has a gui
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I gave the exact same permissions as the ones generated from ssh keygen EdwardSnowden
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> something wrong...
[16:12] <EdwardSnowden> antar_, Then you want Eclipse. Download the C++ version
[16:13] <antar_> oh i downloaded the java version and added the c/c++ cdt
[16:13] <EdwardSnowden> anew, Yes it's me the hero of the free peoples of the United States of America
[16:13] <mustmodify> I am copying files from a windows 8 machine to an ubuntu machine, both core i7 with SSDs, connected via a gigabit switch. Typically communication between them is fast. Today I'm seeing a copy speed of 115 KB/S instead of the typical > 1MB/s ... any thoughts how I can diagnose the issue? load average on the ubuntu machine is 0.01 0.04 0.05 with 43% drive usage and some
[16:13] <anew> holy shit
[16:13] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, What errors do you get?
[16:13] <anew> go edward go
[16:13] <anew> we're rooting for u
[16:14] <anew> cant wait to tell my wife i talked to snowden in chat
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> the one i just pasted EdwardSnowden
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key."
[16:15] <EdwardSnowden> anew, Thanks, I'll do my best to help in recapturing the Internet from the evil organizations.
[16:16] <xcalibur1978> hi! I have an error starting netflix in Ubuntu (whine / silverlight / Gnome): Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop
[16:16] <xcalibur1978> can anyone tell me what to do about it?
[16:16] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, man ssh-add
[16:17] <mwallacesd> WELL
[16:17] <mwallacesd> WELL
[16:17] <mwallacesd> A new user was created on the system, old user's files was copy with cp -R then the permitions was changed with chown -r. (user group was modified too) The problem is that I cannot open Log Files viewer Aplication with this new user.
[16:17] <Wiz_KeeD> suddenly it started working EdwardSnowden :\
[16:17] <mwallacesd> I could open with sudo sudo gnome-system-log
[16:17] <mwallacesd> but I want to open with my new user.
[16:17] <mwallacesd> Any suggestion?
[16:18] <xcalibur1978> mwallecesd: the command "chmod 755" would make it executable for the user who created it and readable for both the group and guest users
[16:19] <Pici> mwallacesd: add the user to the adm group to allow them to read items in /var/log/
[16:19] <EdwardSnowden> xcalibur1978, You have to use compiz to enable compositing
[16:19] <mwallacesd> THANKS a lot Pici
[16:19] <xcalibur1978> Thanx Edward Snowden
[16:19] <mwallacesd> the group name is just adm, is it correctly?
[16:19] <Darkstar1> anyone know how to tell which version of swftools is in the repository?
[16:20] <mwallacesd> usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later
[16:20] <Pici> mwallacesd: yes. if you look, you should see that adm has group ownership of most of the files in /var/log
[16:21] <mhd> What do I do when https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure has failed to give me sound?
[16:22] <EdwardSnowden> Darkstar1, apt-cache show swftools
[16:22] <OerHeks> !info swftools | Darkstar1
[16:22] <Darkstar1> thanks guys
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, all well with that
[16:23] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, nice
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> Do you think you could help me on my last and biggest endevaour of installing the wireless driver? :(
[16:23] <Wiz_KeeD> Since it didn't work by default
[16:24] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, check the kernel module lspci -k
[16:24] <banisterfiend> hi
[16:24] <banisterfiend> i have a question not directly related to ubuntu, but i can't think where else to ask, can i try you guys here?
[16:25] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I got a huge list...now what?
[16:25] <banisterfiend> anyway, here it is: http://superuser.com/questions/644446/cant-login-to-youtube-since-changing-account-name
[16:25] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Paste it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:26] <mwallacesd> Pici, my new user cannot see any group just his own group (i dont know the other group names or how to see it) but I run the command usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd
[16:26] <mwallacesd>  cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[16:26] <mwallacesd> What is wrong?
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> could you please teach me how to interpret this and find the proper driver for it EdwardSnowden ? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097720/
[16:27] <CatKiller> mwallacesd: You need to run this as "sudo"?
[16:27] <Pici> mwallacesd: you need to use sudo to change your own
[16:27] <mwallacesd> yes it is.
[16:28] <CatKiller> Pici: You don't need sudo to change your own you mean?
[16:28] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, It says you have a Dell wireless card using the ssb driver
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> ssb driver, whatever that means
[16:28] <Pici> CatKiller: you need sudo to change even your own groups
[16:28] <CatKiller> ahhh
[16:28] <CatKiller> well then anyways running this as sudo would work
[16:29] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Do you see drivers for it in Additional Drivers?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> CatKiller, I didn't manage to do the lvm thing since it was a bit complicated, I see it's the only options
[16:29] <arcsky> ist possible to upgrade to latest ubuntu gtom Ubuntu 11.04
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I did, it said something about publisher  not allowing access to source blabla, I clicked allow and it errored out during the install
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[16:29] <Monday> which has the fastest boot time Ubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[16:29] <CatKiller> Wiz_KeeD: Well then you also have FS level snapshots
[16:29] <CatKiller> which are probably better anyways
[16:29] <CatKiller> like zfs for instance
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> should I try again, or revert what it did?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> CatKiller, FS level snapshots?
[16:29] <CatKiller> better in your case
[16:29] <CatKiller> Filesystem level
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Pici you right it wasn't sudo.. now I run sudo usermod -a -G adm mwallacesd
[16:30] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, some propietary drivers may require binary firmware
[16:30] <mwallacesd> but takes no effect
[16:30] <mwallacesd> I need to restart
[16:30] <mwallacesd> ?
[16:30] <CatKiller> Instead of snapshotting the entire "volume" you snapshot "files"
[16:30] <EdwardSnowden> banisterfiend, Log in with your gmail account
[16:30] <CatKiller> the entire filesystem in a way
[16:30] <Pici> mwallacesd: you need a new login shell to see the changes, a new terminal window generally doesn't provide that.
[16:30] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden i did
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Ok
[16:30] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden i get that error
[16:30] <mwallacesd> I will test
[16:30] <mwallacesd> Thanks a lot.
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Catbuntu, filesystem, isn't it more important to save the libraries and all that?
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, that's chinese to me, idk what to do
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> I would love to read and learn and educate myself
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, any suggestions?
[16:32] <banisterfiend> EdwardSnowden this is my problem, but the solution there does not help: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/Vkd5er1ojN4
[16:32] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, most often this being fixed via tricky quest which starts from google, sometimes such stock drivers just work not good, that can appear to be painful subject
[16:33] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Can you uninstall the drivers?
[16:33] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, I do not know and i'm scared to make any rash moves since i've JUST placed my system back and I can start working, I already lost 2 days of work because of this crap :(
[16:33] <moksudxp> I need help, there is no one ?
[16:33] <Kyan`> 'sera
[16:34] <Kyan`> HI
[16:34] <Zerpex> Wiz_KeeD: NSA has a copy
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> right
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> mighty helpful
[16:34] <moksudxp> I need help to install gui in ubuntu server
[16:34] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, In the Additional Drivers, does it have the driver enabled?
[16:35] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, it says This driver is not activated
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> And when i press activate it errors out
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Atleast it did first time, never tried the second time
[16:35] <lucenut> Hey guys. I have been reading/watching videos about ubuntu on a nexus 10. Anyone running it?
[16:35] <Wiz_KeeD>  This package contains Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver for use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-, BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware.
[16:36] <moksudxp> impossible to find package ubuntu-desktop
[16:36] <lucenut> I found a 16G locally on Craigslist for $200 and ready to dive in.
[16:36] <moksudxp> impossible to find package ubuntu-desktop
[16:36] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, I found a possible solution here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/212504
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Basically you do this sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, And sudo modprobe b43
[16:37] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[16:38] <lucenut> Any tablet interest/experience here? :-)
[16:38] <moksudxp> Impossible to download some index files...
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> did a -s seems ok
[16:38] <Wiz_KeeD> launching the proper one
[16:39] <PWD__> I started the distribution business, is there any software i can use on Linux for stock & Sales management ?
[16:39] <moksudxp> Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en
[16:39] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, if this won't end good talking of experience using broadcom wireless and you will decide to get rid of it at any cost for some reason, you may find useful to read about atheros chipset in spectrum of details connected to linux support and driver development process
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> chinese + japanese there siberiannerd :))
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, nothing came up after the install
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> should I try to run it?
[16:40] <jase21> Hi is there any way to know user account creation time?
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> from the console
[16:40] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[16:40] <EdwardSnowden> PWD__, Libreoffice Calc
[16:40] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, one ignorant semi-stupid russian actually but ok
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha, lol
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> atheros chipset ?
[16:41] <moksudxp> @EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"
[16:41] <siberiannerd> yep
[16:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Meaning when I buy a new laptop I should check the hardware to see how well it connects with linux?
[16:41] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Try sudo modprobe b43
[16:41] <otak> lucenut: #ubuntu-touch
[16:41] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, there were days when this was the only way to get something working with linux
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, nothing happened
[16:42] <siberiannerd> you always buy hardware to install software on it for some certain purposes
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> siberiannerd, what should I look for when shopping for my next laptop then?
[16:42] <siberiannerd> so it may appear to be a good idea to check the specs from this side
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> so it's *nix ubuntu frindly?
[16:42] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, You have to reboot and see if network manager see your access points
[16:42] <siberiannerd> you may come here with it's specs
[16:42] <siberiannerd> or just model
[16:42] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, okay brb!
[16:42] <siberiannerd> some assumptions can be made according to it
[16:43] <moksudxp> @EdwardSnowden after I write the command, ubuntu shows me a lot of errors like "Impossible to recover http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/universe/i18n/Translation-en"
[16:44] <EdwardSnowden> moksudxp, sudo apt-get clean
[16:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Actually I have to wait a bit until I finish a download
[16:44] <nishttal2> weird issue.. if I turn off my screen and turn it back on.. there is no signal.. and screen goes to power save mode... I then have to hard reboot to get the screen back... what is wrong?
[16:45] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Ok, if it doesn't work you have to remove the b43-fwcutter package and reinstall it
[16:45] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, that's pretty...strange
[16:45] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, There's also the open source firmware firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[16:46] <Kyan`> EdwardSnowden, you've got a strong nick.
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> I saw the guy on launchpad telling the other one to remove and purge all the other drivers
[16:46] <nyuszika7h> hi, how do I enable font smoothing in i3wm?
[16:46] <moksudxp> after I wrote this command : "sudo apt-get clean" Ubuntu dont shows me nothing....
[16:46] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, You can try the open source one instead if it doesn't work
[16:46] <Wiz_KeeD> made exactly for this card?
[16:46] <EdwardSnowden> Kyan`, Yes, I've got nothing to hide
[16:47] <Kyan`> EdwardSnowden, LOL
[16:48] <siberiannerd> this channel being read by nsa now :<
[16:48] <lucenut> Siberian, I have read a bunch about ubuntu-touch on nexus 10. Looks solid.
[16:48] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Also check if b43 is blacklisted
[16:48] <siberiannerd> awesome
[16:48] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i do that EdwardSnowden ?
[16:48] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Check f this exists /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> what does blacklisted mean?
[16:49] <xangua> siberiannerd: public logs can be read by anyone
[16:49] <siberiannerd> xangua, i know =)
[16:49] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Blacklisting prevents modules from being loaded
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> EdwardSnowden, http://pastebin.com/EyirfJYx
[16:49] <Wiz_KeeD> why would they do that....
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, Delete the line that says blacklist b43 and b43legacy
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Then remove the driver
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get purge b43-fwcutter
[16:50] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, that would be wrong if there were 2 working drivers which attempt to provide interface to the device, right?
[16:50] <EdwardSnowden> Wiz_KeeD, And reinstall sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:51] <EdwardSnowden> brb
[16:51] <Wiz_KeeD> What is the difference between apt-get purge b43-fwcutter and apt-get remove package --purge
[16:53] <siberiannerd> Wiz_KeeD, --purge remove for aptitude purge for apt
[16:56] <Catbuntu> Does Ubuntu 12.04.3 have the >=Quantal Ambiance and Radiance themes?
[16:56] <Catbuntu> I mean, are they backported?
[16:59] <mrrcp> good day
[17:00] <elimik> I just purchased the humble indie bundle 9 and I see that the game "Fez" can be downloaded for linux only as a binary. I know I could just put the binary in my home folder, but what is best directory to put it?
[17:04] <EdwardSnowden> elimik, just put it in your home. If you need to launch it from terminal regularly just symlink  it in /usr/bin
[17:04] <cong> \local\bin i think
[17:05] <cong> i think there's a ~/.local/bin
[17:05] <Xantus> Hi Leute
[17:05] <Xantus> jemand Deutsch hier ?
[17:06] <Pici> !de | Xantus
[17:06] <Benkinooby> hi - i use ubuntu and fluxbox (so no big wizzards) and i want to change the keyboard layout of my system. i read instructions but either the used files do ont exist or it did not work. where can i see what layouts are available and where do i set them. .Xmodmap seems to be for single keys only.
[17:06] <Xantus> oky , thanks lot and bye ;-)
[17:12] <mal10c> Benkinooby: not sure what file it's modifying, but does this help?  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[17:13] <Benkinooby> mal10c: hope so? https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard just found it here (as you did too i guess) brb
[17:17] <siberiannerd> i got problem with grub after installation from hdd media (which is unsupported by ubuntu), any ideas on what's going on in there? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6097714/
[17:17] <Wiz_KeeD> Help guys, the wireless is still not working :((
[17:19] <Benkinooby> mal10c: are you the guy who mentioned the dpkg-refconfigure for the keyboard layout?
[17:20] <mal10c> Benkinooby: yep, that's me.  i also found a command setxkbmap. That might work for you too
[17:20] <Wiz_KeeD> halp? :(
[17:21] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, what's the chip model?
[17:21] <Benkinooby> mal10c: the reconfigure helped me. it modifies /etc/default/keyboard
[17:22] <Benkinooby> mal10c: wooo - did you know that there is tab-completion for paths in ubuntu Oo?! nice one!
[17:22] <mal10c> Benkinooby: ah, I'll remember that file.  I haven't worked wtih /etc/default/keyboard
[17:22] <Benkinooby> mal10c: well i wanted to edit it manually but i didn't find the valid options to put there... well seems like the WANT me to do it through that reconfigure
[17:22] <Wiz_KeeD> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card	Kernel modules: ssb
[17:23] <racho> Wiz_KeeD, oh good the old broadcom c*ap.. doesn't it show up in restricted drivers?
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> I have to run now, shit
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks for the help racho
[17:24] <Wiz_KeeD> see you later
[17:24] <Monday> which is the fastest file system for linux?
[17:25] <daftykins> Monday: totally depends on what you intend to store
[17:25] <Benkinooby> mal10c: anyway it worked. it's a bit confusing that there are so many ways... xmodmap, setxkbmap and reconfigigure... hm, from the manpage of setxkbmap i guess this will only kick in, if X11 is up - so if you'Re lost without X11 i am not sure it will have effect...
[17:25] <snqL> true pacany govoryat na russkom
[17:25] <snqL> english dlya slabih
[17:26] <Benkinooby> mal10c: well, the reconfigure also shows effect in virtual terminal (no X11 there...) - just for your information. thank you for your help and interest
[17:27] <mal10c> Benkinooby: no problem.  glad it worked out. i learned something there too
[17:27] <racho> Monday, generally ext4 otherwsie => lots of small files can cope with slow mounting -> ReiserFS; large files -> XFS/ZFS; feeling experimental -> btrfs
[17:29] <Monday> so i guess not one uses ext2 or ext 3 anymore
[17:29] <dadsminecraft> hello, I ama linux noob trying to set-up a minecraft server for someone, I need to enable or create ssh for them to be able to properley start and stop the server, I have xubuntu installed with Openssh and the required dependencies also
[17:29] <racho> Monday, i still use ext3 on most of the servers i manage.. it works good
[17:29] <Benkinooby> mal10c: better remember the dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration - it is easier than to look up possible options for /tec/default/keyboard
[17:29] <Benkinooby> !lightdm
[17:31] <dadsminecraft> I am not sure what else I need to do I guess I just assumed the ssh server would reflect the systems users passwords, but I am not able to log on with putty from windows machine
[17:35] <racho> dadsminecraft, usually it DOES reflect the system users. does the account you're trying to log in exists? have you installed the full ssh-suite (the server (sshd) + client) or only the client). is there some subtle network thing that's working against you?
[17:40] <dadsminecraft> Is there anyone here that can help me through setting up ssh server on my xbunutu box please?
[17:41] <defaultro> is this a good way to install LAMP? sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[17:42] <genii> dadsminecraft: Just need to install openssh-server, either from software center or by sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server ..in a terminal.
[17:42] <daftykins> defaultro: yeah nothing wrong with that
[17:42] <defaultro> cool
[17:42] <daftykins> defaultro: or just "sudo tasksel" then use the menu that comes up to do it
[17:42] <defaultro> got it
[17:42] <genii> defaultro: Alternately just run sudo tasksel  and check it off
[17:43] <defaultro> will do
[17:43] <genii> ( along with possible other useful things like ssh server.... )
[17:43] <defaultro> the reason why we want to use it is because we would like to automate our scaling in amazon
[17:44] <jay__> hi
[17:44] <jay__> anyone may help me with a php problem
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !anyone
[17:45] <defaultro> lol
[17:46] <IdleOne> jay__: ##php can
[17:46] <dadsminecraft> ok done and done, but when I do try and connect with putty, It asks for name, and password, I enter my user name and then to password and is just keeps asking for password, do I have to set-up ssh users? I assumed they would be users on the system
[17:47] <dadsminecraft> again all I did was install ssh server and try and connect
[17:47] <Marlenee> is ubuntu provide ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?
[17:47] <racho> Marlenee, yes and yes and that's true of almost all linux distros
[17:48] <Marlenee> racho : iam talk about is ubuntu company sell   ssh servers , VPS , Deicated servers ?
[17:49] <Marlenee> racho : iam not talking about OS
[17:49] <daftykins> oh crikey Marlenee is back
[17:49] <daftykins> Marlenee: your english really isn't good enough to ask the things you try to ask
[17:50] <horrow> lol
[17:50] <dadsminecraft> neither is mine dafty and I was born raised south dakota
[17:51] <daftykins> dadsminecraft: well i understood that sentence so you're one up on Marlenee already
[17:51] <dadsminecraft> lol, ok but that was a staement I dont understand enough to ask the questions I need to answer
[17:51] <rypervenche> Marlenee: Where are you from?
[17:52] <OerHeks> Canonical/ubuntu only sells hardware-mouses AFAIK
[17:52] <Marlenee> US
[17:52] <cowbacon> Marlenee: no ubuntu doesn't sell dedicated servers. you need to look elsewhere for that im afraid
[17:52] <Marlenee> iam trying to deliver my point
[17:52] <rypervenche> Marlenee: What is your native language?
[17:52] <Sirisian|Work> So is /usr/share/zoneinfo/ like a complete olson DB for timezones? Writing some software that runs on ubuntu and I figure I'll just query that for them locally if that's the case.
[17:52] <__raven> xubuntu 12.04.3 lts: build of http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download results in that: http://pastebin.com/8bEGC3sY - all headers installed - whats the problem?
[17:52] <rypervenche> Marlenee: Your time shows you to be in GMT+2, which is not in the U.S.
[17:53] <Marlenee> rypervenche : dont bing me
[17:53] <horrow> +2 sofia talin vilnus
[17:53] <horrow> and other
[17:53] <horrow> :D
[17:54] <quackers> o/ all  -  any chance of some guidance/suggestions please?
[17:54] <bhavesh> How can I install and use Java JDK on ubuntu without root and internet access?
[17:55] <quackers> I attempted to use synaptic to install laptop-mode-tools which seg faulted synaptic - now Ubuntu just gives a kernel panic
[17:55] <cowbacon> bhavesh: you cant. you need root to install software
[17:55] <quackers> I can't get to tty
[17:56] <bhavesh> cowbacon: I just read here http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml that I can install it to my home directory without root access
[17:56] <OerHeks> bhavesh, you need root. after that, you could use apt-on-cd
[17:56] <OerHeks> !offline
[17:56] <bhavesh> cowbacon: but that must be JRE..
[17:57] <cowbacon> bhavesh: if you want it locally then you can just follow the guide in the link you posted. but if you want it installed and usuable for many users without tinkering you need root
[17:58] <bhavesh> cowbacon: I just want it for myself.
[17:58] <naibed> i have to install debian because ubuntu doesn't have haskell packages
[17:58] <Marlenee> any site provide info about ubuntu certified cloud ?
[18:00] <dadsminecraft> no help on the ssh server set-up? If there is anything to set-up? please I have looked around before coming here, I hate to beg , but I'm like halh retarded half windows
[18:01] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: whats your question?
[18:02] <dadsminecraft> I installed openssh, thats it mind you, and in putty I enter my system user name and it just asks for password over and over
[18:03] <Amis> Hello! I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 through Wubi but after the first reboot (first boot into Ubuntu) it tells me "No root file system is defined" during verification of installation configuration or something. What's up with that?
[18:03] <dadsminecraft> do I have to set-up ssh users and if so where and how?
[18:03] <Dennis8162> Hi I wan't to Install WINE on a computer without internet access. Which file do i download for Ubuntu 13 -32bit? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine1.4/
[18:03] <darth_damian_000> Hello. Does the command sudo apt-get update suffice to update the OS? Must I follow with sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[18:04] <kostkon> darth_damian_000, yes
[18:04] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and you're sure its the correct password? try changing your password in ubuntu to something simple like 123456 just to see if its nothing wrong with the sending of the password
[18:04] <darth_damian_000> kostkon, yes to which question?
[18:04] <kostkon> darth_damian_000, 2nd one
[18:04] <darth_damian_000> thanks
[18:04] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and you also need to use the username on the debian machine, not the real name, for example if your real name is john smith and your username is jsmith its jsmith you need to use to log in
[18:04] <dadsminecraft> ok I am correct that it does use system users fot acess though
[18:05] <kostkon> !sshd | dadsminecraft
[18:05] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: you wont need to set up any users to be able to connect with ssh, it uses system users by default
[18:05] <OerHeks> dadsminecraft, pretty easy https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html and add user "jim" >> http://askubuntu.com/a/16661
[18:06] <dadsminecraft> ok I will be back after a bit of reading and testing, TY
[18:06] <Benkinooby> hi - is it true that xdm is troublesome under ubuntu?
[18:06] <cowbacon> good luck
[18:08] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: xdm is rather... reto...
[18:09] <rypervenche> Wow, Marlenee is pretty bad.
[18:09] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: welly, my system is rather retro too.. 800 Mhz, 1 GB ram, 50 GB hdd
[18:09] <jcbjoe> does anyone use the i3-wm ?
[18:09] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: but i am more worried about dbus and all that - i heard that you will suffer more than benefit from xdm
[18:09] <Benkinooby> since it can not handle certain things like console kit daemon
[18:10] <Benkinooby> i tried to bott with it and got stuck - now i want to know if i should try to fix it, or drop it
[18:10] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: i haven't used xdm in years.  you might consider lightdm or even slim as alternatives?  best of luck.
[18:11] <Benkinooby> zykotick9: i am using lightdm right now - seems to work
[18:11] <dadsminecraft> hmmm well it did not like my previous password then cause I made a new user and easy pass and boom right in, totally fell retarded at this point
[18:13] <vite> whats the best route for energy efficient WS. Install the server version of ubuntu and build a light weight desktop enviroment on top of that or go with something like lubuntu straight away?
[18:13] <kostkon> vite, WS?
[18:14] <vite> kostkon: work station
[18:14] <kostkon> ah
[18:15] <dadsminecraft> is there a password size limit for ssh?
[18:15] <OerHeks> !minimal
[18:15] <vite> OerHeks: thanks
[18:15] <cowbacon> vite: it depends on what you actually need. if you need the absolute minimum without sound etc go with server -> manual install of WM. but if you want media usage id recommend going with xubuntu/lubuntu and it'll be fixed for you
[18:15] <rypervenche> dadsminecraft: SSH uses the user on the system. And no, not that I know of.
[18:15] <OerHeks> vite, also your start with server iso is a good way
[18:16] <bwayne> is it possible to configure the alt-tab window switch to include those windows which are on another virtual desktop?
[18:16] <bwayne> e.g. I have terminal on desktop #4. on desktop #1, alt-tab doesn't show it. any configuration to let it?
[18:16] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: heres a test for you. on your ubuntu system type ssh localhost
[18:16] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: and if your password works there then we know your user/pass works locally with ssh
[18:17] <dtcrshr> I have this oldschool backup of an ubuntu 10.04 lts with an experimental project, but the password is lost, can anyone point me to a nice guide to acces and change the root password?
[18:17] <dtcrshr> im using vmware
[18:19] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/
[18:19] <cowbacon> woops
[18:19] <cowbacon> dtcrshr: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/ *
[18:19] <vite> OerHeks: does the minimal version have the option to encrypt the drive?
[18:20] <cowbacon> vite: you would probably need to download ecryptfs
[18:20] <dadsminecraft> yep cow it wors locar but not remote for "my" account and the newly created account does the ssh in just fine but "my" account does not remote in. Not a huge deal I know it is working.
[18:21] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: are you perhaps using special chars in your password? that wont get translated correctly when sending from windows to linux. try chaning the password and see if it works
[18:24] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: also, this is a bit more advanced to set up but it makes sshing into machines super easy once it's set up: http://www.howtoforge.com/ssh_key_based_logins_putty
[18:24] <dadsminecraft> thank-you for your guidance, feel like holding my hand through firewall and ip tables, nvm I must read and learn this crap, I feel too old to learn all this stuff. Umm no no special chars but I will change pass and try that in a bit, as long as a user I set-up can ssh into his directory I am happy.
[18:24] <OerHeks> vite i look at these screenshots and find only user space encryption, not the whole drive http://amjjawad.blogspot.nl/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html
[18:24] <dadsminecraft> yes the whole key based logins is what got me thinking I was missing something as I was reading thee man pages
[18:25] <cowbacon> dadsminecraft: dadsminecraft ubuntu has a good utility for firewall, ufw (and gufw for graphical)
[18:25] <cowbacon> !ufw | dadsminecraft
[18:25] <bwayne> found it. gconf-editor /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/ --> toggle alt_tab_bias_viewpot
[18:28] <dadsminecraft> you guys have been great, really, I will get on those, I def needs gui, being a windows tard since win 3.1, but I will be back,
[18:29] <cowbacon> good luck
[18:29] <dadsminecraft> thanks I really do need it
[18:31] <dtcrshr> thanks cowbacon ill get it on
[18:32] <naibed> why ubuntu repository has no haskell
[18:33] <bazhang> haskell-debian-utils   naibed ?
[18:33] <bazhang> apt-cache search haskell naibed
[18:34] <trism> naibed: we have haskell, but 13.04 doesn't have the haskell-platform package because the new one wasn't ready in time for the release
[18:34] <trism> naibed: you can still install the individual packages that make up the platform
[18:36] <dadsminecraft> yus firestarter has a freaking wixard, all down hill
[18:37] <TESLA33> hi
[18:42] <lesshaste> I used to have a music server running but then I upgraded.. how do I check if it is still running?