[03:44] <__mikem> pelo, your autostart suggestion didn't work
[03:44] <neozen> monkey89: ie.... libqt3-dev or some such beast
[03:44] <monkey89> neozen: it has.  i got it compiled and working by removing /usr/local/include (which is in the path) and linking it to /usr/include/qt3.  but thats clunky
[03:45] <neozen> O.o clunky!
[03:45] <AlexGC> good evening gentlemen
[03:46] <neozen> I just had to create a sym-link to another sym-link in order to get audacity to see libmp3lame.so.0.0 as libmp3lame.so
[03:46] <AlexGC> Excuseme, is there a channel for ubuntu on PowerPCs/Macs? or this is general ubuntu?
[03:46] <yrth> nite nite
[03:46] <neozen> .....the other day...
[03:46] <bruenig> daquino, just package it conventionally
[03:46] <__mikem> pelo, okay, again, Your suggestion did not work!
[03:46] <daquino> bruenig:  wtf does that mean ?
[03:46] <bruenig> daquino, do you think that the debs in the repos are made with checkinstall?
[03:46] <nixnoob> is there anything i can get in the way of shockwave?
[03:46] <daquino> bruenig:  how do i make it conventionally ?
[03:46] <neozen> __mikem: ok... I think Pelo's busy right now... I'll see what I can do about your issue
[03:47] <__mikem> thanks
[03:47] <__mikem> basicly, when I try to use the session manager to launch it automaticly, the program crashes, but when I run it manually it works fine
[03:47] <Pelo> __mikem, shoudl have worked,  I know there are issues with the new  "restore session" thingy ,  the  ~/.config/autostart thing only works on reboot btw, not on xrestart as I far as I know
[03:47] <AlexGC> Excuseme, is there a channel for ubuntu on PowerPCs/Macs? or this is general ubuntu?
[03:47] <lasking> i have a basic system how to install X and gnome? apt-get what?
[03:47] <bruenig> daquino, make install it in to a destdir (make install DESTDIR=/path/to/some/empty/directory) and then add a debian directory in there and create a control file (see apt-cache show firefox or any other application for what that looks like) then use dpkg -b to build it
[03:48] <__mikem> okay, let me try this again
[03:48] <__mikem> brb
[03:48] <lasking> e
[03:48] <neozen> __mikem: scope this thread out... looks like it handles your problem perfectly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475513&highlight=gdesklets
[03:48] <daquino> bruenig:  ok
[03:49] <daquino> anyone know the dpkg command to configure which display manager i want to use ?
[03:49] <TylerIsACow> i have a problem with firefox where if i leave it unattended for a while and i come back my flash plugin doesn't work anymore. it fixes if i completely close firefox and open it again. I am on Fiesty 7.04 64 bit with flash player 9 using the nswrapper
[03:49] <LCCUB> is there a gui app to look at start up apps?
[03:49] <bruenig> you can probably just dpkg-reconfigure which ever one you want
[03:49] <Pelo> daquino, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:49] <LCCUB> or method
[03:49] <noiesmo> daquino: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/xdm/gdm
[03:49] <Flannel> LCCUB: which startup?  login or actual bootup?
[03:49] <neozen> LCCUB: define startup apps
[03:49] <__mikem> Pelo, the problem is, every time it is executed automatricly, it crashes, but when I run it by hand, it works fine. And at this point this thing is starting to piss me off
[03:50] <neozen> hey flannel! long time no see
[03:50] <imbecile> how do i extract files to filesystem?
[03:50] <lasking> install what? crying...
[03:50] <Pelo> __mikem,  what command are you using ?
[03:50] <bruenig> imbecile, depends on what the filetype is, if it is a tarball, tar xf whatever
[03:50] <LCCUB> well for example totem was running and I didn't start it
[03:50] <simtower> is there a thing on ubuntu where you type in tv shows you like and it will recommend ones to you??
[03:50] <__mikem> gdesklets start
[03:50] <LCCUB> so I'm guessing it was set to run at start
[03:50] <Flannel> !startup | LCCUB
[03:50] <ubotu> LCCUB: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[03:50] <imbecile> bruenig,  its actually a folder for a vm
[03:50] <bruenig> simtower, that would be webbased I am sure, does such a thing exist on any OS?
[03:50] <Flannel> LCCUB: those would be session startup things, not actual startup, but on login.
[03:50] <LCCUB> thanks Flannel
[03:50] <Flannel> neozen: Howdy howdy.
[03:51] <simtower> bruenig where can i find the web base??
[03:51] <greg_g> Question: in Software Sources (from System -> Admin) some of the repos are not checked, have a minus, or have a check.  I understand checked and not checked, but what does the minus means?
[03:51] <linuxor> HI, I'm looking for SAP on linux -it's a civil engineering software-??
[03:51] <bruenig> simtower, I am saying that if such a thing exists, it would only make sense that it would be a website sort of like last.fm not a stand alone app
[03:51] <noren17> Does anyone have experience mounting flash media with corrupted partition tables?
[03:51] <greg_g> Pelo, to cover up gun shots? ;)
[03:51] <simtower> bruenig, thanks im going to last.fm.com now
[03:51] <imbecile> how do i extract a folder with a vm in it  to filesystem?
[03:51] <Pelo> greg_g, no, we're use to those we don'T pay attention anymore
[03:52] <Pelo>  brb
[03:52] <greg_g> Pelo, in my old neighborhood that is how it was too
[03:52] <bruenig> simtower, last.fm not last.fm.com but that is a music site where it gives you related artists, not a tv show
[03:52] <neozen> __mikem: ask yourself what the state of the machine is when you are starting it manually
[03:52] <imbecile> bruenig,  oh now i know what you mean.. it is a zip
[03:52] <bruenig> imbecile, unzip whatever
[03:53] <imbecile> and?
[03:53] <neozen> imbecile: aye... unzip will handle zips on ubuntu ... commandline that is
[03:53] <simtower> bruenig: oh ok, what is the site for tv show? last.tv??
[03:53] <bruenig> imbecile, it should be extracted
[03:53] <LCCUB> !boot
[03:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:53] <neozen> imbecile: for gui-type-stuff .. try file-roller.... that'd work just right
[03:53] <doms> bash: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
[03:53] <bruenig> simtower, I don't know if any site exists, but if it does exist, it will be a website not a stand alone app, so look on the interwebs not for stand alone apps
[03:53] <simtower> ok bruenig
[03:54] <bruenig> doms, ?
[03:54] <imbecile> neozen,  i have fileroller open with the folder in it.. i just cant get the folder saved in filesystem
[03:54] <Flannel> doms: What are you trying to do?
[03:54] <bruenig> doms, I think ubuntu is /etc/init.d not /etc/rc.d
[03:54] <nivekc1> anyone know how i can change the main menu image?
[03:54] <doms> i cant  run php in my firefox browser
[03:54] <neozen> doms: you trying to restart your http server in ubuntu?
[03:54] <Pelo> nivekc1, you mean the boot menu ?
[03:54] <Flannel> doms: and it's apache2 (well, assuming you installed apache2), not httpd (/etc/init.d/apache2)
[03:55] <bruenig> nivekc1, do locate *distributor*logo* I think that is what it is called, replace that file
[03:55] <Flannel> doms: Do you have a web server?  PHP doesn't run in a browser
[03:55] <doms> i dont know if my httpd is already installed?
[03:55] <shwag> how do I allow a normal user to run a service on port 80 ?
[03:55] <SlimG2> Is there a command to translate filenames into "safe" filenames?
[03:55] <bruenig> SlimG2, define safe
[03:55] <greg_g> Pelo, yeah, I used to live in South Side Minneapolis, it is fine in the winter, but it is true what they say about hot crazy summers
[03:55] <doms> i want to install apache2 and php5 and phpmyadmin
[03:55] <Flannel> doms: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   Check that out, that'll get you up to speed
[03:55] <pyrak> how do i know: do i have a 32-bit x86 or a 64-bit amd64
[03:55] <doms> ok thanks
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: run in terminal
[03:56] <MTecknology> I had an install of Ubuntu on this hard drive. I moved the partition to be a bigger size and closer to the start of the drive but something crapped out. So I reinstalled Ubuntu. The amount I increased it by is smaller than the whole install. Is there any way to try to recover those files?
[03:56] <doms> after i did the installation my php doesnt work and my apache seems OK in /var/www/ directory
[03:56] <neozen> pyrak: that'll tell you EVERYTHING about your processor that the kernel can suss out of it
[03:56] <wesolek> does anybody know how to connect to the remote desktop (it's running on windows)
[03:56] <MTecknology> it was about 10G worth and i'd prefer not buy the crap again
[03:56] <bruenig> MTecknology, if you formatted the drive, certainly not
[03:56] <SlimG2> bruenig: I think I read somewhere of a tool to translate filnames to match ex. CD filesystems (cant remember atm what the CD fs is called)
[03:56] <Atra_Phasma> hi
[03:57] <neozen> doms: you'll probably need to install mod_php
[03:57] <quaal> hi
[03:57] <neozen> Atra_Phasma, quaal: hi
[03:57] <LCCUB> wesolek: terminal server client
[03:57] <pyrak> neozen, so the 64 is the clflushsize?
[03:57] <LCCUB> allows you to connect under rdp
[03:57] <neozen> .........
[03:57] <Atra_Phasma> hey.... can someone help me out?
[03:57] <MTecknology> bruenig, but i'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't wipe the partition, just marks things as gone, right? same as how windows does things when you choose the quick format
[03:57] <__mikem> Pelo, gdesklets crashes when gnome tries to execute it on startup, but works fine when I execute it manually, but the problem is, I DON'T WANT TO EXECUTE IT MANUALLY.
[03:57] <bruenig> SlimG2, if I know what you are talking about I am sure I could put together a bash script to do it, but I don't know what the original filenames are and then what you are expecting them to change to
[03:57] <Flannel> !anyone | Atra_Phasma
[03:57] <ubotu> Atra_Phasma: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:57] <Atra_Phasma> not meaning to inturrupt convos *cringr*
[03:57] <bruenig> MTecknology, no it wipes it
[03:58] <MTecknology> damn
[03:58] <wesolek> thanks lccub :)
[03:58] <quaal> does anyone know why everytime i logout i have to login and (CTRL-ALT-Backspace) and relogin 3 or more times just so i can get my menubars ?
[03:58] <LCCUB> np
[03:58] <pyrak> is there a default keyboard shortcut fo launch terminal?
[03:58] <neozen> pyrak: I'ma say no
[03:58] <bruenig> MTecknology, at least when you format, if you just rm something, it isn't necessarily gone, but formatting the partition and it is
[03:58] <imbecile> neozen,  so how do i extract the folder with my vmx in it to filesystem with fileroller?
[03:58] <miyako> hmm, I tried to install a package with apt-get, it won't install, and it won't remove, apt-get -f install doesn't fix it, and now I can't install anything
[03:58] <sparda> you can make one
[03:58] <Pelo> __mikem,  what command are you using to start it manualy ?
[03:58] <miyako> anyone have any ideas?
[03:58] <quaal> the first time i have my desktop (icons and such) but now i dont
[03:58] <__mikem> gdesklets
[03:58] <quaal> i dont know if this is a gnome issue or what
[03:58] <Atra_Phasma> I need help installing Ubuntu on a Windows computer
[03:58] <neozen> pyrak: since mine says the same thing... and I know for a fact that this is a 32-bit cpu
[03:58] <|Porsche> how do i have nickserv send me a password reminder?
[03:58] <SlimG2> bruenig: I'm capable of putting together such a script myself, but I wouldn't have to if there already was a complete app up for the task
[03:58] <Pelo> __mikem, and what command are you using to startit automaticaly
[03:58] <p1ls> hey how can i check on what disck my /home folder is installed?
[03:59] <sparda> atra_phasm you have the live cd?
[03:59] <__mikem> Pelo, same command
[03:59] <bruenig> SlimG2, don't know of too many apps whose sole intention is to rename files, that is more of a bash thing so I doubt someone would waste their time, but maybe
[03:59] <pyrak> neozen, hm, well i need to figer out:<neozen> pyrak: since mine says the same thing... and I know for a fact that this is a 32-bit cpu
[03:59] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: don't worry about interrupting.... its impossible to avoid with irc
[03:59] <Pelo> __mikem,  do you get any error msg when it crashes ?
[03:59] <jrib> p1ls: df  or  mount  or take a look at /etc/fstab
[03:59] <miyako> is there any config file that I can use to go in and edit to tell apt to forget about a package?
[03:59] <__mikem> No, it just terminates
[03:59] <pyrak> neozen, so that i know which bootloader installer thingey to use on my ipod
[04:00] <pyrak> http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> I cant resize Partition space with GPart, because it errors me each time I try to, and I cant create a partition because there is no unallocated space. I tried to install from live CD, but it freezes each time i hit enter for "Install Ubuntu"
[04:00] <zoidberg_> guys i have a problem and really need some help
[04:00] <SlimG2> bruenig: I'm sure I'll find those timewasters :)
[04:00] <_stress_> tell us
[04:00] <monst> i just install xubuntu, and when i login x starts to come up that hangs and my keyboard stops working...
[04:00] <monst> not sure what to do
[04:00] <Pelo> __mikem, can you get me a screenshot of your desktop with the desklets running, so I have an idea which one are running to see if one of them might be the problem ?
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> and there is green text saying "loading" in the corners
[04:00] <doms> yes i did install libapache2-mod-php5
[04:00] <sparda> phasm, you have enough free space?
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> :-(
[04:00] <neozen> pyrak: if this is just for a basic desktop, install 32 bit version
[04:00] <Atra_Phasma> i have 20 gig free space
[04:00] <neozen> pyrak: will work just fine on 64bit cpus
[04:00] <monst> i copyed xorg.conf from my working ubuntu install... still does it
[04:00] <imbecile> neozen,  i figured it out
[04:00] <doms> but my php doesnt work my apache
[04:00] <Pelo> __mikem,  and please use my nick when talking to me,  it 's easier to keep up
[04:00] <mister_roboto> monst: can you get a login prompt if you hit ctl-alt-f1?
[04:01] <neozen> pyrak: for about 99% of 64bit cpus in existence
[04:01] <monst> mister_roboto , yeah im there now using irc from a term
[04:01] <zoidberg_> I have G4 powermac and whenever i try installing ubuntu badger,dapper, or edgy on it on the bast system it gives me a Debootstrap Warning for a whole bunch of files till it says it cannot install....but the cdrom is fine...i checked many and burned many isos
[04:01] <mike3_> Hi guys... when installing packages you're not building packages from source like gentoo are yah?
[04:01] <pyrak> neozen, well this is actually an hp pavilion notebook
[04:01] <zoidberg_> is there a solution to this...cant i download the files for a server or something and have the setup look for files on the server?
[04:01] <Pelo> zoidberg_,  did you try the alternate install cd ?
[04:01] <Atra_Phasma> Sparda: i have 20 gig fre space
[04:01] <sparda> it wont work on a g4
[04:01] <__mikem> Pelo, look I am sorry I am being so irate, but I had a very aggrivating 2 days at work, and I am just not that patient. I shouldn't be taking it out on you
[04:01] <Atra_Phasma> free*
[04:01] <mister_roboto> monst: you should find the cause of the error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:01] <sparda> oh
[04:01] <zoidberg_> Pelo, thats what i've been working with
[04:02] <sparda> are you manually partitioning it?
[04:02] <nullmind> How can I escape a command argument programatically?
[04:02] <neozen> __mikem: so rare that people apologize here
[04:02] <zoidberg_> can anyone help me please?
[04:02] <dinkle> where can i find the /.fonts folder in ubuntu?
[04:02] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: try using the alternate install
[04:02] <monst> mister_roboto: ill check it
[04:02] <Atra_Phasma> i tried diskmgmt with windows, but no unallocated space and booting to Gpart doesnt let me resize the HDD
[04:02] <p1ls> at dev/sda2 i have installed / so there will be home right?
[04:02] <frank_> I'm trying to format a floppy disk on xubuntu 7.04 on an old machine; where can I find the command?
[04:02] <sparda> zoidberg, you cant on a mac g4
[04:02] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: you might also have a bad burn
[04:02] <Pelo> __mikem, my thinking is that one or more of your desklets needs something else loaded for then to work and it doesn'T get loaded before gdesklets when you autoload,
[04:02] <pyrak> neozen, i think its a pentium M, if that means anything...
[04:03] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: You'll need to first shrink the windows partition.  If it reports 20GB free in windows, that's space on the windows partition, the drive (presumably) is fully partitioned
[04:03] <Pelo> __mikem,  you might also try with this command   export DISPLAY=:0 && gdesklets
[04:03] <neozen> pyrak: that's a 32bit cpu
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> nezen: no, ive installed it on 2 other compws
[04:03] <neozen> pyrak: am 90% sure
[04:03] <mister_roboto> nullmind: what do you mean exactly? what are you tryhing to escape?
[04:03] <jrib> dinkle: ~/.fonts  means the  .fonts  directory in your HOME directory (/home/username).  It usually does not exist by default, so create it if it doesn't.  Also, directories that start with a '.' are hidden, so go to view -> show hidden files
[04:03] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: how much ram does the box have?
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> @ falnnel, fullly partitioned meaning?
[04:03] <Atra_Phasma> the only partition i have is recovery
[04:03] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: if its 128 or less.... use the alternate install
[04:03] <mike3_> Hi guys... when installing packages you're not building packages from source like gentoo are yah?
[04:04] <neozen> mike3_: HELL no
[04:04] <__mikem> okay let me try it
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> @neozen: 128 what?
[04:04] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: meaning the entirety of the disk has a partition ontop of it.  There's no "free" space on the disk (nothing unallocated), even if one of the partitions has space for more data.
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> it is that
[04:04] <maxagaz> what is the best way to download rtsp videos ?
[04:04] <Perdente> neozen, would you get a ps3?
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> i cannot rezise it though
[04:04] <mike3_> fantastic. I fucked my gentoo box and I'm not in the mood to rebuild a myth box for the next week or two
[04:04] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: 1289MB of RAM
[04:04] <nullmind> mister_roboto: I'm using alltray to wrap uTorrent and I need to pass the arguments escape because of the communication between alltray -> wine -> utorrent
[04:04] <neozen> *128
[04:04] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: when you make a new partition, say 1GB, even before you've put stuff in it, it's no longer "free space" because it's been given to that partition.
[04:04] <mister_roboto> mike3_: the ubuntu repositories are debian packages, binary, prebuilt packages
[04:04] <mike3_> I want to get this up and running in the same day
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | mike3_
[04:04] <Pelo> frank_,  no garranties but I think there is an app already installed but not listed in the menu because it is not activated ( in the menu ) , try checking the box in   menu > system > prefs > main menu
[04:04] <ubotu> mike3_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> ooh
[04:04] <mike3_> no bull shit
[04:04] <neozen> Perdente: no
[04:04] <mike3_> sorry
[04:04] <mike3_> Just fed up
[04:04] <mike3_> ;)
[04:04] <mike3_> :)
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> I have..... 152mb..?
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> something liekt that
[04:04] <Atra_Phasma> let me check
[04:05] <frank_> thanks pels
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: use the alternate install just in case
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi allI need help with Quicken under wine...  I have ie 5.5 and ie 6 installed but quicken install fails to find them..
[04:05] <Atra_Phasma> what is alternate install?
[04:05] <pyrak> is there a keyboard shortcut to launch terminal?
[04:05] <pyrak> (by default)
[04:05] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: try #winehq
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: the alternate install cd
[04:05] <zoidberg_> can anybody help me please?
[04:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: different image
[04:05] <Atra_Phasma> OK
[04:05] <zoidberg_> I have G4 powermac and whenever i try installing ubuntu badger,dapper, or edgy on it on the bast system it gives me a Debootstrap Warning for a whole bunch of files till it says it cannot install....but the cdrom is fine...i checked many and burned many isos
[04:05] <Perdente> neozen, I was joking because there was a video of a guy waiting in line for a wii and they asked him if he wanted.... here look at thishttp://youtube.com/watch?v=7nL-j3Tx-KA
[04:05] <jrib> pyrak: no, set one in systme -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:05] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  consider using  grisbi or gnucash or kmymoney instead,  quicken doesn't work well under wine
[04:05] <neozen> mike3_: no problems
[04:05] <Flannel> Atra_Phasma: it's text based instead of a liveCD based  Boots straight into the installer.  releases.ubuntu.com and you'll find it.
[04:05] <mister_roboto> nullmind: if i'm understanding you correctly, you could wrap the args in single quotes so they don't get expanded by the first program you're calling (wine, i guess)
[04:06] <jrib> pyrak: though there is alt-f2 for a run dialog...
[04:06] <neozen> mike3_: we'll get you up and running
[04:06] <p1ls> did anyone used program cryptsetup before?
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> will Ubuntu Partition y HDD for Ubuntu if i boot from it?
[04:06] <__mikem> Pelo, it didn't even appear to start with the export
[04:06] <mister_roboto> nullmind: errr... i mean expanded by the shell as it calls the first program
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> my HDD*
[04:06] <neozen> mike3_: depending on what you're trying to do out of box.... we could have you completely set up in 2 hours or so
[04:06] <Pelo> Atra_Phasma, you will get the option to do so during the install process
[04:06] <Atra_Phasma> OK
[04:06] <Pelo> __mikem,  can I have that screenshot of your desktop so I can see which desklets you have running ?
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> I'm assuming th Alternate install image is on the site as well?
[04:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: yes... alternate install image is on site
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> thank you
[04:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: might I also recommend ubuntu-lite for this box instead of regular ubuntu
[04:07] <Atra_Phasma> i will retry, and be back if it doesnt work!:-) thank you for all the help
[04:08] <Atra_Phasma> what are the diffferences between the two?
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: ok... best of luck
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: ubuntu-lite is unofficial... and uses icewm instead of gnome
[04:08] <dinkle> jrib, HUGE help thanks a bunch.  Wish someone would put that online so I could freaking find it in google, thanks again.
[04:08] <__mikem> pelo http://mikemiller.dyndns.org/gdesk.png
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: still pulls software from the same repositories though
[04:08] <jrib> !fonts > dinkle (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:08] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:08] <Atra_Phasma> same general GUI?
[04:08] <Pelo> __mikem, thank you , hold on
[04:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: so you get all the apps with much less slowdown
[04:09] <monst> mister_roboto: no errors other then a missing font directorty
[04:09] <Atra_Phasma> i like the gnome Gui
[04:09] <mike3_> neozen, setting up mythtv
[04:09] <zoidberg_> is there a ubuntu powerpc channel?
[04:09] <jrib> dinkle: I'm not sure if you've seen that wiki page that ubotu sent you, but it would be great if you could add what you feel would be helpful.   I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like updates cause sysload to go to really big number
[04:09] <mike3_> ?
[04:09] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: you're going to have a ton of fun with that
[04:09] <FarrisG> So I actually "fixed" my slow NFS problem. Don't know what the problem was, but the BCM5704 just didn't like our Celerra's NFS exports at all. Had to disable those and put some intel gige cards in those boxes
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: what kind of capture card are you using?
[04:09] <miyako> night all
[04:09] <mike3_> neozen, I've done it on a gentoo box
[04:09] <neozen> mike3_: ok
[04:09] <mike3_> twice now
[04:09] <mike3_> I know the hardware and requirements
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: but it took you forever and now you want to see if ubuntu can go faster
[04:10] <mike3_> lirc, ivtv, mythtv-setup, mythfrontend, acpi calls..... so on
[04:10] <mike3_> neozen, I fucked up my CHOST flags
[04:10] <mike3_> fucked my system up large
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: let me dig up a good tutorial on doing this from a friend of mine
[04:10] <Pelo> __mikem,  if you are running beryl consider using screenlets instead of gdesklets but for now you can try this little bit :
[04:10] <mike3_> and I will probably have to redo this
[04:10] <qqqqq> salut
[04:10] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:10] <neozen> mike3_: CHOST?
[04:10] <Atra_Phasma> thanks for the help... will be back soon witht he resuilts!
[04:10] <jrib> mike3_: please stop with the language
[04:10] <mike3_> yes
[04:10] <mike3_> sorry
[04:10] <mister_roboto> monst: hmmm... x failing to start but no error...
[04:10] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:10] <monst> it doesnt fail to start really
[04:10] <noscreen> Hello everyone, i am having problem starting xserver on my laptop with AIT X1400, i have tried reconfiguring xserver and then when i use startx an error msg with"no screens found" pops to me.
[04:10] <jrib> !repeat > moustafa (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:10] <mike3_> neozen, yes moved the hd to a new computer and goofed up the CHOST
[04:10] <monst> gdm is fine,
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: ah
[04:11] <mike3_> so now my GCC is all out of wacked and I have a half built box
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: yeah.. I could see how that would happen
[04:11] <monst> then after login though, the mouse still moves
[04:11] <moustafa> answer me please
[04:11] <mike3_> it's working but any furture installs of software won't work
[04:11] <zoidberg_> IS THERE A UBUNTU POWERPC/MAC CHANNEL?
[04:11] <monst> but the keyboard becomes disabled
[04:11] <Tomasu> anyone have a madwifi card here using it as an AP?
[04:11] <BrianDonohue> !mac
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <moustafa> I need to know the best downloader
[04:11] <BrianDonohue> !apple
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <moustafa> Can nobody help me? I want to change my default down-loader to another to be faster.
[04:11] <mister_roboto> monst: ahhhh... i misunderstood
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: ubuntu would be the easiest to get up and running
[04:11] <mike3_> neozen, Does the kernel need recompling and such
[04:11] <mike3_> ?
[04:11] <neozen> moustafa: downthemall
[04:11] <jrib> zoidberg_: no need for the caps, but I believe this channel is meant for ppc support as well
[04:11] <neozen> mike3_: hopefully not
[04:11] <Tomasu> I can't get my wifi adapter to come up properly and automatically in AP mode.
[04:11] <mike3_> haha
[04:12] <neozen> mike3_: everything should just be set up as modules
[04:12] <moustafa> how can i install downthemall
[04:12] <mike3_> uhci
[04:12] <mike3_> ivtv
[04:12] <Pelo> __mikem,  in menu > system > prefs > sessions,   second tab (current session),  select gdesklets from the list , in the bottom part,  change the order from 50 to 55,  it will delay the start up of gdesklets , it will take a bit to load up but if something else is interfering it should take care of that
[04:12] <monst> =\
[04:12] <mike3_> acpi is installed obviously so I can make calls to my acpi alarm ok
[04:12] <zoidberg_> Can anybody HELP me with ubuntu POWERPC installation?
[04:12] <mister_roboto> monst: did it EVER work inside X?
[04:12] <jrib> moustafa: it's a firefox extension, just google for "downthemall firefox extension" and click on it
[04:12] <mike3_> rright?
[04:12] <monst> mister_roboto: i used ubuntu earlyer today fine
[04:12] <neozen> mike3_: in firefox, tools -> add ons -> get extensions -> search for downthemall
[04:12] <doms> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:12] <doms> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:12] <monst> i just installed xubuntu
[04:12] <moustafa> Thank you
[04:12] <neozen> gah
[04:13] <jrib> !ppc > zoidberg_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:13] <monst> i even copyed a working xorg.conf over
[04:13] <jetscreamer> !xubuntu
[04:13] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> hi
[04:13] <Perdente> I just installed ubuntu ce :-0
[04:13] <mister_roboto> monst: and you didn't install any, change anything, etcc... it just quit working?
[04:13] <Perdente> hahah no, never phew
[04:13] <neozen> sorry mike3 that was meant for moustafa
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> how can I open ports on my comp
[04:13] <monst> right
[04:13] <monst> thing is
[04:13] <neozen> ...guess he left anyway
[04:13] <LCCUB> is it possible to log something for use in terminal
[04:13] <jrib> lexus_nexis: none of them are closed by default
[04:13] <LCCUB> (a command that I will use often)
[04:13] <__mikem> Pelo gdesklets is not in the second tab menju
[04:13] <loko__> hello
[04:13] <monst> i can only install ubuntu using an Alt install then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <Perdente> neozen, can I ask a question?
[04:13] <neozen> Perdente: yes
[04:13] <monst> even livecd do what its doing now
[04:13] <Perdente> alright!
[04:13] <jrib> LCCUB: do you mean an alias or something else?
[04:13] <lexus_nexis> do I have to use something like ipchains or ifconfig
[04:13] <neozen> Perdente: and I'll even try to answer
[04:13] <monst> its mad confusing
[04:14] <Perdente> where does ubuntu save the log files?
[04:14] <loko__> am i still connected?
[04:14] <jrib> !firewall > lexus_nexis (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:14] <LCCUB> jrib: um kinda a long command
[04:14] <Pelo> __mikem,  how were you trying to autostart gdesklets before ?
[04:14] <zoidberg_> i'm having problemsiwth my ubuntu POWERPC installation can anybody help me...i've tried the forums and everthing...i really need some HELP?
[04:14] <jrib> Perdente: /var/log/ ?
[04:14] <Perdente> ....
[04:14] <Perdente> hahah....
[04:14] <Perdente> oh
[04:14] <LCCUB> jrib:  (something for stunnel)
[04:14] <maxagaz> how to downlod rtsp stream ?
[04:14] <John__> In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:14] <__mikem> Pelo, in the first tab, that says 'Startup Programs'
[04:14] <mister_roboto> monst: yes, that's bizarre. i don't see how it can just suddenly quit working when you (supposedly) haven't changed anything
[04:14] <neozen> mike3_: you've got a basic ubuntu set up on the box already right?
[04:14] <Pelo> __mikem, hmm
[04:14] <Perdente> and a follow up would be is there any dreamweaver equivelant app on ubuntu?
[04:14] <jrib> LCCUB: alias something_short='something really long in here'     <-- does this do what you want?
[04:14] <mike3_> neozen, no nothing yet
[04:14] <mike3_> This is another night project
[04:14] <lexus_nexis> has anyone tried out gnump3d
[04:15] <mister_roboto> monst: no unusual message of any kind in /var /log/messages?
[04:15] <UToddTu> Hi. I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like updates cause sysload to go to really big number
[04:15] <mike3_> I'm just fed up with gentoo .. You make one mistake it takes you 3 days to fix
[04:15] <lexus_nexis> I saw how it works and it look really slick
[04:15] <mike3_> I have better things to do with my time
[04:15] <lexus_nexis> and easy to setup
[04:15] <LCCUB> jrib: sorry I didn't follow you the first time, so I can create an "alias" that will do a sort of text replacement?
[04:15] <neozen> mike3_: ok... and you want to just wipe out what you've got and install ubuntu on top of this messed up box
[04:15] <cybersoup> what's up kids?
[04:15] <Perdente> holla
[04:15] <mike3_> i will take my config files and such out
[04:15] <mike3_> make things easier
[04:15] <monst> ill look some more...
[04:15] <Pelo> __mikem,  you have gdesklet running now,   go to the third tab and  "save the current session" , see if it appears in the second tab,  if so make the edit , if not restart x and check again
[04:15] <jrib> LCCUB: right, try this one (it's not permanent):  alias e='echo hi'     and then type: e
[04:16] <monst> can someone link me to the latest version of envy .deb...
[04:16] <mike3_> neozen, where do you put where you want your modules to autoload upon start???
[04:16] <John__> In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:16] <Pelo> __mikem,  you do have a  gdesklet in start app currently ?
[04:16] <jrib> !envy > monst (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:16] <sparda> hey you guys think i should keep edgy or go to feisty?
[04:16] <monst> hard to navigate web from console
[04:16] <Pelo> sparda,  fiesty
[04:16] <jrib> sparda: feisty imo it's worth it
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: which modules do you want to install?
[04:16] <jrib> !ugprade > sparda (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:16] <mister_roboto> monst: lol   yes, i guess. what about lynx?
[04:16] <mike3_> ivtv
[04:16] <LCCUB> jrib: that's perfect :)
[04:16] <mike3_> lirc_mceusb2
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: might be packages for them in the repository
[04:16] <mike3_> i'm sure there is
[04:16] <__mikem> Pelo, yes, but it didn't show up in the second tab when I saved the session
[04:16] <neozen> mike3_: ok....
[04:16] <__mikem> brb
[04:16] <monst> well, lynx is hellworld imo
[04:16] <mike3_> but things like building packages with support for things
[04:17] <mike3_> things like that .
[04:17] <jrib> LCCUB: add it to your ~/.bashrc if you want it to stick (there should be some comments in there about aliases but it can go anywhere really)
[04:17] <sparda> so all the moaning ppl had is all over for feisty?
[04:17] <mike3_> how do you do that?
[04:17] <neozen> mike3_: just for future reference... if you're talking to me.... put my nickname at the beginning of what you're saying....
[04:17] <LCCUB> jrib: sorry, care to elaborate?
[04:17] <mike3_> neozen, got'cha
[04:17] <neozen> mike3_: helps alot with knowing when you're talking to me and not someone else talking to someone else
[04:17] <mister_roboto> !tab
[04:17] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:18] <__mikem> It still isn't there in the second tab
[04:18] <jrib> LCCUB: well when you do that alias command, it will only work until you close the terminal.  Then it is lost.  If you want it to work for every terminal instance, then you can add it to your ~/.bashrc file, it's just a text file you edit
[04:18] <mike3_> neozen, if you want to install a package, and you want support for something else, is it needed. I mean you said all things are prebuilt binaries. so to get support for lirc_mceusb2 when lirc installs how do you do such a thing?
[04:18] <neozen> mike3_: looks like ivtv is already builtin to the generic kernel in feisty
[04:18] <imbecile> neozen,  what does this mean? Cannot connect virtual device parallel0. No corresponding device is available on the host.
[04:18] <sparda> !upgrade
[04:18] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:18] <__mikem> pelo, it still isn't in the second tab
[04:18] <Pelo> __mikem,  grasping at stras here but why do you have an gdesklet icon in your top pannel ?
[04:18] <jrib> mike3_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:19] <Pelo> straws
[04:19] <c01100011> !beryl
[04:19] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:19] <__mikem> Pelo, you mean in the screen shot?
[04:19] <harlan_> Can someone help me please?
[04:19] <doms> why ? when i open my  localhost/textphp.php  firefox gettings started to download the file
[04:19] <neozen> imbecile: means you don't have a parellel port on your ACTUAL system.... so vmware can't allow the virtual machine to see it
[04:19] <jrib> !php > doms (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:19] <Pelo> __mikem,  how else would I know ?
[04:19] <jrib> !helpme | harlan_
[04:19] <ubotu> harlan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <__mikem> Pelo, thats because I launched it manually when I took that shot
[04:19] <imbecile> neozen,  so i cant set it up?
[04:19] <LCCUB> jrib: can I just add a noncommented alias to that file towards the end?
[04:19] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me figure out why my evms volumes are only reading at about 1MBps, even though they used to be just as fast as the block device they're created on, and the block decice itself is still reading at about 150MBps?
[04:19] <jrib> LCCUB: yep
[04:20] <daquin1> who told me how to compile a package manually before ?
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: you might not need to install any other package to get lirc_mceusb2
[04:20] <Pelo> __mikem,  how did you install gdesklets ?
[04:20] <__mikem> with apt-get
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: let me look in the basic repos
[04:20] <daquin1> does this chat have logs?
[04:20] <jrib> !logs > daquin1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:20] <mike3_> neozen, how would you build a package to get that support?
[04:20] <Pelo> __mikem,  I give up
[04:20] <mike3_> that's what i'm wondering
[04:20] <doms> why ? when i open my  http://localhost/textphp.php  firefox gettings started to download the file
[04:20] <harlan_> ok, sorry. um i just installed ubuntu and when i tried to find my wireless card it's not there
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: you might not need to
[04:20] <jrib> mike3_: I just linked you to the documentation, did you see it?
[04:20] <neozen> mike3_: let me do a little research
[04:20] <mike3_> neozen, not all packages are not built with certain support. how do you do it
[04:20] <Pelo> !wifi | harlan_
[04:20] <ubotu> harlan_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:21] <Pelo> !dualhead | thirnit
[04:21] <ubotu> thirnit: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:21] <LCCUB> jrib:  does it have to be within if/fi
[04:21] <jrib> LCCUB: no
[04:21] <Perdente> !logs
[04:21] <thirnit> muchas gracias
[04:21] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:21] <__mikem> Isn't there a script that you can put in your home diffectory that will automaticly execute on startup?
[04:21] <lexus_nexis> hi i was wonder what is the command in iptable to open say port 8080
[04:21] <jrib> __mikem: many
[04:21] <neozen> mike3_: you examine the documentation for the utility that that package installed as to where it puts its files on debian/ubuntu ... and follow the directions
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: that's what I've done thusfar
[04:22] <__mikem> jrib, do you have any idea why this crap isn't working
[04:22] <sparda> are there (graphic) drivers for the intel chipset
[04:22] <jrib> __mikem: can you elaborate?
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: you mind switching to PM?
[04:22] <Pelo> __mikem,  try removing all the desklets, except for the clock and  then see if the autostart will work,  I'm guessing there is something that borkes your startup and that it is one of the desklets you are usuing
[04:22] <mike3_> neozen, huh?
[04:22] <lexus_nexis> there are modules for intel cards
[04:22] <neozen> mike3_: I'm having a hell of a time keeping up..... busy night tonight
[04:22] <lexus_nexis> for the (graphics)
[04:22] <mike3_> ok... my gf is calling.
[04:22] <mike3_> i really should go. :)
[04:23] <__mikem> I installed gdesklets. I liked it and wanted to have it autostart, but every time it gets executed by gnome automaticly, it crashes
[04:23] <neozen> mike3_: just keep an eye out for a window in your irc client with my name in it
[04:23] <__mikem> jrib ^
[04:23] <mike3_> neozen, if you're on tomorrow I will talk
[04:23] <John__> one last time :) magic word, please. In Manual Configuration for network, under Aliases, if I put the ip address for my routers ip address and the alias net-pf-2 (which is ipv4), is that correct, I don't really understand these aliases
[04:23] <LCCUB> jrib: one more thing sorry, I assume this will take effect upon reboot?
[04:23] <lexus_nexis> gdesklets really suck
[04:23] <carajea1> hey ya guys im having a bit of trouble with my graphics. My glxgears prog. is running extremely slow
[04:23] <Perdente> neozen, are you on every night?
[04:23] <jrib> __mikem: did you check bugs.ubuntu.com?
[04:23] <neozen> mike3_: If I am on tomorrow... it will be later in the evening
[04:23] <CoFFeY> =/
[04:23] <jrib> LCCUB: it will take effect next time you open a terminal
[04:23] <carajea1> is there anyway to see why glxgears would be running extremely slow??
[04:23] <neozen> Perdente: not so much these days
[04:23] <LCCUB> cool
[04:23] <neozen> Perdente: why do you ask?
[04:23] <LCCUB> thanks alot jrib
[04:23] <__mikem> jrib, I don't think its an ubuntu bug but hold on
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: I come in here, when I can spare the time
[04:24] <jrib> __mikem: check ~/.xsession-errors  too
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: tends to eat a lot of it
[04:24] <LCCUB> works like a charm
[04:24] <sek> neozen are you also on theplace.bz?
[04:24] <Perdente> well, I'm finally starting to get the hang of things on my ubuntu and so I started helping people here and I actually helped a couple of people out
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: I used to LIVE in here for quite a while
[04:24] <daquin1> what was the link for the logs again ?
[04:24] <IcemanV9> hmm ... xchat-gnome does NOT have a text replacement just like xchat does :( is there a workaround for text replacement to work in xchat-gnome??
[04:24] <neozen> sek: no... must be different neozen
[04:24] <Perdente> but anyway, so I'm trying to get on more and do more
[04:24] <Music_Shuffle> IcemanV9, ...use the regular XChat in Gnome?
[04:24] <Perdente> just seeing who'se a
[04:24] <jrib> !logs > daquin1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:24] <harlan_> it's not telling me exactly how to do it, i have a linksys wpc11 ver 4
[04:24] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless interent for my compaq presario v5000
[04:24] <Perdente> "local"
[04:24] <Pelo> __mikem, personnaly I now start gdesklets with a cron job, because of that buged that made it crash every 16 hrs or so,  I basicaly restart it on the hour,   it's not even set to autostart anymore,  you might try that
[04:24] <neozen> Perdente: that's good
[04:25] <harlan_> i forgot how i did it last timw
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: we're happy to have the help
[04:25] <Ravenndude`> When my machine boots, instead of seeing ubuntu with a loading bar below it, I just have a black screen. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:25] <IcemanV9> Music_Shuffle: besides using xchat!
[04:25] <lashmoove> any jack-guru's here ?
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: as you can see ... gets quite crazy in here sometimes
[04:25] <Perdente> neozen, lol thanks, I tried to help at launchpad, but it just takes so long for a response
[04:25] <__mikem> whats cron?
[04:25] <Perdente> neozen, yeah, this is a little worse than usual
[04:25] <neozen> Perdente: correction ... busy not crazy
[04:25] <Pelo> __mikem, scheduled tasks
[04:25] <neozen> __mikem: in terminal type man cron
[04:25] <Music_Shuffle> IcemanV9, Oh.  Then I got nothing, sorry
[04:25] <Perdente> true
[04:25] <Perdente> sorry
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> good morning...
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I am trying to install driver for my dapper ubuntu
[04:26] <neozen> __mikem: runs certain tasks automatically every X where x is minutes, days, weeks, years etc
[04:26] <lashmoove> anyone got jack to show 4 output channels or more?
[04:26] <IcemanV9> Music_Shuffle: np. i just want to use xchat-gnome (it's so simple).
[04:26] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: good morning
[04:26] <lufis> What's the best brand of all in one printer for linux?
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> but I don't know the kernel version of dapper
[04:26] <volenin> hi
[04:26] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless interent for my compaq presario v5000
[04:26] <Pelo> __mikem,  type  crontab -e ,  and add this line  0 *     * * *   export DISPLAY=:0 && gdesklets restart
[04:26] <volenin> have a quick question
[04:26] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I read that it is 2.6.15
[04:26] <lufis> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname
[04:26] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: which driver for which device?
[04:26] <Perdente> _mikem, are you still looking for a way to run something every startup?
[04:26] <IcemanV9> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname -rs
[04:27] <Pelo> volenin, thre is no such thing
[04:27] <volenin> if KDM is being started at system bootup
[04:27] <Ravenndude`> Install Xbitch, it has text replacement
[04:27] <xsacha> hi
[04:27] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: uname -a
[04:27] <daquin1> those logs aren't up to date
[04:27] <volenin> and i'm also starting another X server (just for freevo)
[04:27] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: that should tell you everything
[04:27] <goodtimes> is WaltzingAlong around?
[04:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I am sorry the computer is not here at this current time
[04:27] <jrib> daquin1: they're not realtime
[04:27] <volenin> on 'TV' screen
[04:27] <imbecile_> neozen,  sorry i missed what you said to my last question i was stuck in fullscreen
[04:27] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> I don't remember exactly the kernel version
[04:27] <volenin> which one will remain active
[04:28] <volenin> ?
[04:28] <__mikem> Perdente, gdesklets crashes every time I try to run it at startup but works fine when I execute it manually, and I am had a hard day at work, I don't need $h!t to just not work
[04:28] <shawn34> Is it possible to get my desktop icons to display at 100% but everything in folder view to display at 75?
[04:28] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: have you updated and upgraded the kernel since original setup?
[04:28] <CoFFeY> can someoen help me set up my wireless internet for my compaq presario v5000 laptop?
[04:28] <volenin> kdm is running on display :0
[04:28] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> no
[04:28] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you probably need to change the resolution for the bootup to the native resolution of your video card.  the paramater is vga and it goes into /boot/grub/menu.lst, so in my case 1280x1024 is vga=794
[04:28] <Pelo> gnight folks
[04:28] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> not at all
[04:28] <daquin1> jrib:  can you look in your scroll back and see who told me how to use make a deb ?
[04:28] <Perdente> _mikem, what are you using to start it up everytime you boot?
[04:28] <volenin> the second server (TV screen layout) on display :1
[04:28] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: that's good news.... I might be able to look that up for you
[04:28] <IcemanV9> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: for dapper, it is 2.6.15-28
[04:28] <__mikem> Perdente, right now the session manager
[04:28] <doms> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[04:28] <doms> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[04:28] <jrib> daquin1: he's not here anymore, it was bur[n] er
[04:29] <volenin> normally the kdm ends up on tty7
[04:29] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, tyvm, I'll test it momentarily.
[04:29] <hybridsto> I am trying to boot from the ubuntu live cd and after the splash screen I am getting "(17179570.084000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0"
[04:29] <daquin1> jrib:  can you paste waht he said again ?
[04:29] <volenin> while the freevo server - on tty9
[04:29] <jrib> daquin1: what are you trying to do?
[04:29] <Perdente> _mikem, ok go to your session manager and what command does it say under the gdesk... info?
[04:29] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> IcemanV9, thank you very much bro :D
[04:29] <carajea1> ok guys im getting api mismatch on my nvidia setting is there a way to fix this???
[04:29] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, thanks :D
[04:30] <daquin1> jrib:  i just need the argument for make install and the dpkg command to build a deb
[04:30] <volenin> only one session can be active at a time (ie, if i''m switching to tty7 - kdm - the TV screen goes out)
[04:30] <__mikem> Perdente, gdesklets
[04:30] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: is this ubuntu desktop or server?
[04:30] <volenin> if i'm switching to tty9 - freevo -- the monitor goes out
[04:30] <jrib> daquin1: that doesn't make sense, what are you trying to build?
[04:30] <|Porsche> how can i have nickserv email me my password?
[04:30] <Perdente> __mikem: ok, that would make sense, now when you run it, do you run it from your menubar or the terminal?
[04:30] <daquin1> jrib:  from source....
[04:30] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you can go http://www.mepis.org/node/2992 to see a table with some different vga mode settings
[04:30] <neozen> imbecile_: refresh my memory as to the question
[04:30] <volenin> i need 'freevo x server' to get the focus by default on system startup
[04:30] <jrib> daquin1: yes, but what
[04:30] <volenin> what are the rules?
[04:30] <daquin1> pidgin
[04:30] <sek> .adrroooottttttttrr
[04:30] <hybridsto> I am trying to boot from the ubuntu live cd and after the splash screen I am getting "[17179570.084000]  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:00:14.0"
[04:31] <Perdente> _mikem, oh and is that what the name of the command was or is that what you saw when you clicked on the command hit edit and looked at the second line?
[04:31] <hybridsto> anyone have any ideas?
[04:31] <daquin1> can you please copy what he wrote ?
[04:31] <eternalswd> I'm trying to build EXIF support into gimp 2.3.18 on Ubuntu Fesity.  I have libexif-dev version 0.6.13 installed. the configure script is not finding it "EXIF support:        no (libexif not found)"  What do I need to do to get this working properly?
[04:31] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, ubuntu for desktop
[04:31] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: thank you... looking
[04:31] <__mikem> Perdente, it is the actual command yes
[04:31] <LCCUB> daquin1: there is a guide online that shows how to compile pidgin for ubuntu, I missed the beginning of your conversation but would you like a link?
[04:31] <daquin1> yea sure
[04:31] <imbecile_> neozen,  i was asking question about parallel0 nor being found
[04:31] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: looks to be 2.6.15-26.46
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: according to the package manifest for ubuntu dapper desktop
[04:32] <Perdente> _mikem: ok cool and I didn't see, what do you use to start gdesklets when it works? the menubar or do you actually type the command in a terminal
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: found here: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.manifest
[04:32] <neozen> Eko_Hermiyanto_S: I assumed you used the i386 version
[04:32] <__mikem> Perdente, I use the same command but I am executing it from a terminal
[04:32] <IcemanV9> what? for dapper, it is 2.6.15-28. i am running it on this box (desktop)
[04:33] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> that's right
[04:33] <neozen> IcemanV9: you've updated the kernel since installation
[04:33] <IcemanV9> neozen: that's correct.
[04:33] <neozen> IcemanV9: that's why yours is different
[04:33] <UToddTu> Hi. I have a problem with my install. moved to a new WD HD on my dell from the barracuda it came with. now simple things like update manager is causing sysload to go to really big number. Any ideas how I can determine the root cause?
[04:34] <LCCUB> daquin1: http://jhcore.com/2007/06/04/install-pidgin-in-ubuntu/
[04:34] <Perdente> _mikem, hmm I can't find anything, one sec
[04:34] <neozen> IcemanV9: he hasn't updated his kernel to the newest one from the repositories
[04:34] <shawn34> Is it possible to get my desktop icons to display at 100% but everything in folder view to display at 75?
[04:34] <LCCUB> daquin1:  you can update the build number to the current one and it will still work fine (that's what I did)
[04:34] <neozen> imbecile_: ah...
[04:34] <lexus_nexis> this is freaking I have a 32 mb nvidia graphics card and now I can run compiz and have all the 3d screen savers I want
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> neozen, then I will try the 2.6.15-26.46
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> thanks neozen
[04:34] <Eko_Hermiyanto_S> :D
[04:34] <IcemanV9> neozen: yes. i didn't realized that until you mentioned "haven't update the kernel"
[04:34] <neozen> imbecile_: yeah.. that means you don't have a parallel port on your actual computer
[04:35] <lexus_nexis>  I mean freaking awsome
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: if you don't have a parallel port on your actual computer.... your virtual machine can't have one
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: its no big deal
[04:35] <Perdente> _mikem, I'm sorry, I checked around, but nobody has a clue, all I can say ( and I know this is stupid) but it is checked in sessions to activate right?
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: won't crash the vm or anything
[04:35] <imbecile_> neozen,  so it should work?
[04:35] <neozen> imbecile_: define "it"
[04:36] <neozen> imbecile_: there are so many its
[04:36] <imbecile_> neozen,  vmware working
[04:36] <neozen> imbecile_: yes... vmware will work
[04:36] <__mikem> Perdente, yes its set to activate. I am going to try modifying my .profile file and see if that works
[04:36] <onexused> I know there are programs like kppp and gnome-ppp to help people use dial-up internet, but how do I do it without them?  They're frontends to something, right?
[04:36] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:36] <Perdente> _mikem, I would suggest removing the gdesklets in sessions and then adding it again, and logout, login just to check
[04:36] <Perdente> _mikem, ok good luck! sorry
[04:36] <imbecile_> neozen,  thanks
[04:37] <onexused> Ulteo: dvd or cd?
[04:37] <Ulteo> onexused, both.
[04:37] <neozen> imbecile_: you might get a similar message regarding serial ports if your actual machine doesn't have any of those either
[04:37] <Ulteo> onexused, I've tried burning to a rewritable DVD and 2 types of non RW CDs.
[04:37] <imbecile_> neozen,  yeah i got that too
[04:37] <TaJMoX> does anyone know how to make the panel background an image in xfce?
[04:37] <IcemanV9> Ulteo: go very slow; like at 4x or so
[04:37] <Ulteo> Ice, I tried that.
[04:37] <onexused> ulteo: how old is the drive?
[04:37] <neozen> imbecile_: most vms you get off the net (including those made by easyvmx) have support for serial/parellel ports on the off chance that your machine has them
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, Idno, bought the computer in January or Feb of this year.
[04:38] <daquin1> dude thats the stupidest guide i ever saw
[04:38] <daquin1> it doesn't even create a deb it installs completely untracked
[04:38] <imbecile_> neozen,  cool ill just set it not to look for them
[04:38] <Perdente> neozen, ahh I have to go to bed, sorry usually I help I'll be here tommorrow though cyah
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: I gotcha....
[04:38] <onexused> Ulteo: what program are you using? Jw
[04:38] <_stress_> I'm almost giving up of java neozen =( I hope tomorrow be a different day =(
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, I've used three programs.
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: you want the ppp howto
[04:38] <neozen> onexused: let me dig u up a url
[04:38] <daquin1> LCCUB:  thats the dumbest link
[04:38] <Ulteo> one, Imgburn, this program by Alex Feinman, and Infra Recorder
[04:39] <LCCUB> worked for me, sorry
[04:39] <Ulteo> I'm running Vista atm. *gag*
[04:39] <Perdente> _stress_ wait, what's going on with java?
[04:39] <tata> fdsakf
[04:39] <p1ls> hey using program crypt setup, i wnat to create a folder that will be crypt so for the locatin i put what /dev/sda2/home?
[04:39] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, about the vga numbers in /boot/grub/menu.lst ... is that just for the grub boot up screen? I see that fine, but when I let that boot into ubuntu I just have a black screen instead of seeing the ubuntu logo and loading bar.
[04:39] <onexused> Ulteo: hmm. I don't know how to help you if it fails with different progs, and is a new drive. :\ Maybe someone else can.
[04:40] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:40] <neozen> onexused: incidently.... I'm having burning issues with feisty as well if you're interested
[04:40] <daquin1> LCCUB:  dude i was asking how to use dpkg to create a deb... if you follow that link your installed files into your system that your going to have to manually remove one day 1 by 1 if you can even figure out which ones it installed
[04:40] <neozen> Ulteo: reduce your burn speed
[04:40] <Ulteo> neozen, I'm not burning Feisty.
[04:40] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:40] <neozen> Ulteo: no... i meant burning cds INSIDE of feisty.. not burning the feisty image
[04:40] <jrib> daquin1: read help.ubuntu.com packaging guide if you want to do it properly
[04:41] <Ulteo> neozen, I'm not running Feisty.
[04:41] <onexused> neozen: I think he said he's on Vista
[04:41] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, that's not for grub itself it's for bootup, did you check out http://www.mepis.org/node/2992 for the different mode values?
[04:41] <Ulteo> ^^
[04:41] <jrib> daquin1: erm, click on the "6.10" tab
[04:41] <neozen> onexused: I know... I was just speaking to you
[04:41] <Ulteo> Well.
[04:41] <onexused> neozen: ah, ok
[04:41] <Ulteo> This sucks. >_>
[04:41] <neozen> onexused: on the off chance that you knew more about troubleshooting cdburing issues in feisty
[04:41] <neozen> *cd-burning
[04:41] <jrib> !checkinstall >  (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:41] <Ulteo> It goes to the verify part then gives me an I/O error.
[04:42] <jrib> daquin1: and checkinstall is the quick and dirty way
[04:42] <raf256> hello, I need a professional linux distro
[04:42] <Ulteo> And if I skip that part then it's a bad burn.
[04:42] <jrib> raf256: how about ubuntu?
[04:42] <neozen> raf256: define professional
[04:42] <raf256> Im not lame enought to use ubutnu, or is there some not-lame version of it?
[04:42] <daquin1> jrib:  it broke for me on debian based systems.. you try it
[04:42] <Ulteo> lol.
[04:42] <jrib> daquin1: I have?
[04:42] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:42] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> I AM JUST INSTALLING LINUX ON A COMPUTER AND ITS ASKING ME IF IM A VIRGIN IS THIS A TRICK QUESTION
[04:42] <onexused> neozen: I can try, but I know more about Fedora.
[04:42] <raf256> neozen: well, not hidding root user for example
[04:42] <pestilence> is there an open source flv player (something I can embed into a webpage and stream video from my server)?
[04:42] <neozen> raf256: if you mean enterprise class w/o the enterprise price...... try centos
[04:42] <raf256> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: type yes and press enter
[04:42] <c01100011> raf246 - debian
[04:42] <onexused> neozen: thanks for telling me what I need to look up (ppp docs), btw
[04:42] <Ravenndude`> eternalswd, Yes, I did. What I want is vga=794 , but where in the file is this needed?
[04:42] <jrib> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: do not use caps and keep it support related please
[04:43] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> r00723r0 THANK YOU
[04:43] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> J4t THANK YOU
[04:43] <raf256> c01100011: debian if for bunch of geeks it would seem
[04:43] <neozen> raf256: its basically RHEL without the logos and all of the same software
[04:43] <jrib> !away > onexused (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:43] <IcemanV9> Ulteo: do you have old machine (before you brought a new one back in Jan or Feb)? if so, use that box to burn CD
[04:43] <c01100011> sorry for feeding the troll, i will be quiet now
[04:43] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:43] <LCCUB> daquin1:  btw, as far as I know, everything is in one directory
[04:43] <_stress_> Perdente you there???
[04:43] <mongolai> anyone here know if there is a .deb file for an X11 or preferably GTK based man page browser?
[04:43] <raf256> is there like UbuntuPro - without the for-noobs stuff?
[04:43] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:43] <Perdente> _stress_: yeah what's up?
[04:43] <neozen> onexused: here's the official ppp howto: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/PPP-HOWTO
[04:43] <daquin1> LCCUB: when you run 'make install' it installs the files to your system
[04:44] <raf256> not hidding root etc.
[04:44] <jrib> raf256: do you have a support question?
[04:44] <Perdente> _stress_: so what's the problem?
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: that's been used........... since the dark ages ...still just as valid now
[04:44] <pestilence> raf256: root is not hidden
[04:44] <raf256> jrib: yes, that one I asked
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: only difference is... now we have package management
[04:44] <onexused> neozen: thanks for the link
[04:44] <NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO> IS IT TRUE THAT LINUS THE CREATOR OF LINUX USED TO WORK FOR MICROSOFT AND STOLE ALOT OF SOFTWARE OFF THEM ILLEGALLY AGAINST COPYRIGHT ACT LAW CODE H.R. 503
[04:44] <_stress_> it's in there on the other tab
[04:44] <neozen> onexused: my pleasure
[04:44] <IcemanV9> raf256: ubuntu is for everyone from professional to newbie
[04:44] <raf256> pestilence: well yeah,  sudo passwd root, but I ment the philosophy behind hidding root user in first place
[04:44] <neozen> NOT_UNCLE_JIM_BO: stop shouting mate
[04:44] <mongolai> ...I've looked in the package manager but nil.
[04:44] <onexused> /aqay
[04:44] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:44] <onexused> crap
[04:44] <Ravenndude`> raf256, have you tried the server install?
[04:44] <pestilence> raf256: it's not hidden.  i don't get your complaint.
[04:45] <raf256> Ravenndude`: I ment to use it as desktop (worksation and server also)
[04:45] <neozen> Ulteo: we don't support vista in there
[04:45] <neozen> *here
[04:45] <neozen> sorry
[04:45] <Ulteo> I'm not asking for help with Vista.
[04:45] <Ulteo> I bet if I were on Ubuntu it'd do the same thing.
[04:45] <raf256> pestilence: by default user can not log into root right?
[04:45] <neozen> Ulteo: lol.... that's debatable
[04:45] <pestilence> raf256: so?
[04:45] <Ulteo> I can prove it, though.
[04:45] <jrib> raf256: he can, see:
[04:45] <eternalswd> Ravenndude`, you want to look for a line that looks like "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=6dfa991f-c89f-4d0f-aea3-afaa1aa99d6d ro quiet splash" and add vga=794 to it
[04:45] <raf256> pestilence: so I dont like this philosophy
[04:45] <jrib> !root > raf256 (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:46] <loko_> Actually I think Microsoft used the gui of Linux in Windows 85
[04:46] <pestilence> raf256: so don't use ubuntu.  and stop whining ;)
[04:46] <raf256> jrib: thanks, but I know that, and I dont like it
[04:46] <loko_> 95*
[04:46] <Ulteo> Hello! Can anyone help me? I try to burn the ISO but it keeps failing. (11th attempt now)
[04:46] <jrib> raf256: ok, it's ok that you do not like it
[04:46] <Toma-> Ulteo: in that case, its a hardware fault. call your manufacturer
[04:46] <mongolai> loko_, I was gonna say...
[04:46] <Ulteo> =(
[04:46] <raf256> jrib: so is there something close to ubuntu, but without this part of philosophy
[04:46] <neozen> Ulteo: my dvd burner acted sooooo flakey under windows XP .... wouldn't recognize a cd change without a reboot ..... have had no such issues with the same hardware under linux
[04:46] <Ulteo> I wanted to try updating the firmware..
[04:46] <Perdente> raf256, but if you don't like it because you cannot be root by default, that is something you could change
[04:46] <Ulteo> No, I doubt it's that.
[04:46] <Perdente> ubuntu ce
[04:46] <jrib> raf256: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for ubuntu support
[04:46] <Perdente> hahah
[04:46] <Ulteo> Because I've had the same issues under Linux.
[04:46] <eternalswd> Ulteo, are you birning at slowspeed?
[04:46] <Ulteo> Freespire, Linspire, FC7, Ubuntu.
[04:46] <neozen> Ulteo: I figured it was a driver issue.... then just stopped caring when it worked in linux
[04:46] <xenex> Ulteo, did you try lowering the burn speeds?
[04:47] <Ulteo> Yes.
[04:47] <neozen> Ulteo: what's it set to?
[04:47] <Ulteo> All the way down to 4X.
[04:47] <Toma-> Ulteo: if its the same in 2 different OS's maybe you have a crappy ISO?
[04:47] <raf256> what are the main differences between debian and ubuntu nowdays?
[04:47] <neozen> ok
[04:47] <xenex> Ulteo, try 2X? :P
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:47] <Ulteo> I checked it, it's perfectly fine.
[04:47] <daquin1> jrib:  i dont see the link you wanted me to look at
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: we're more active
[04:47] <Ulteo> I'm baffled.
[04:47] <mongolai> !man package
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <raf256> neozen: yes I see =)
[04:47] <jrib> daquin1: help.ubuntu.com, click on the "6.10" tab and go to Packaging Guide
[04:47] <Ulteo> It's never been this bad before.
[04:47] <mongolai> oops
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: we release far more often
[04:47] <raf256> neozen: but less stable?
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:47] <neozen> raf256: not at all
[04:47] <raf256> (stable as in: bug free)
[04:47] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: I've found ubuntu to be VERY bug free
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: I recommend the LTS releases
[04:48] <raf256> can I do professionall stuff in ubuntu about system-admining, like: recombile myself few of libraries with specific gcc flags
[04:48] <Ulteo> LTS is very good.
[04:48] <dsoul_> i cant install my wireless card
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: dapper is rock solid
[04:48] <Ulteo> It's all gone downhill from there, IMO.
[04:48] <raf256> Ulteo: whats LTS
[04:48] <neozen> raf256: as long as you're ok with slightly out of date versions of software
[04:48] <Ulteo> Ubuntu 6.06
[04:48] <dsoul_> someone could help me pleaseeeee
[04:49] <dsoul_> hi i couldnt install the driver of my network card: dwl-g520, please i need your help
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: the lts stands for Long term support
[04:49] <Ulteo> 6.06.1 LTS
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: they release an LTS every 3 years or so
[04:49] <raf256> ok
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: its the more stable version of software... and its supported for longer
[04:49] <eternalswd> dsoul_, patience, no need to ask every minute, if someone can help, they will
[04:49] <loko_> My webcam stays on after boot........Is this a bug, and if it is a bug, is there a work-around for this issue
[04:49] <raf256> are there commerciall versions of ubuntu?
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: .............
[04:49] <neozen> raf256: no
[04:49] <raf256> like - im not a broken jobless debian user and I like to pay more but have real QA
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: not to my knowledge
[04:50] <mongolai> raf256, there is commercial *support* for ubuntu
[04:50] <dsoul_> but i need help :(
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: I wouldn't pay for them anyway
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: now support is another story
[04:50] <raf256> neozen: I would
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: ....well.... so would I
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: quality product
[04:50] <neozen> raf256: I'm happy donating
[04:50] <raf256> the all crap about "omg free as in beer software" is quite hurting linux world, imho
[04:50] <raf256> no $ -> no QA
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: lol
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: right
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: look at this place mon
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: I don't remember getting paid for this
[04:51] <newb_prob> I have a laptop. The cdrom drive on it is broken.
[04:51] <newb_prob> How do I install linux on it?
[04:51] <raf256> neozen: take a look at for-win32 applications, most of them are more polished that most of linux world applications
[04:51] <Toma-> !offtopic
[04:51] <newb_prob> there's got to be some way
[04:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:51] <jrib> !install > newb_prob (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:51] <mongolai> this is OT, but Shuttleworth donated a huge chunk of change to make Ubuntu a reality
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: perhaps
[04:51] <edgarin> I have the same problem of newb_prob :S
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: but it all depends on what the app does
[04:51] <edgarin> and my lapton don't have network
[04:51] <edgarin> only a USB port
[04:51] <jrib> raf256, neozen: lets move the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <neozen> raf256: and how much people care
[04:52] <eternalswd> dsoul, is your card listed from lspci?
[04:52] <eternalswd> dsoul_, is your card listed from lspci?
[04:52] <hansonry> hello
[04:52] <neozen> jrib: sounds like a good suggestion
[04:52] <shadeofgrey> i really loathe ATI for not having better driver support by nolw
[04:52] <hansonry> I have a quick question
[04:52] <neozen> jrib: I'll just get off the topic and back to answering questions
[04:52] <shadeofgrey> we've only been asking for years
[04:52] <mongolai> hansonry, go ahead,
[04:52] <hansonry> has some one been able to use google lately?
[04:52] <neozen> newb_prob: hmmmmm quite a pickle you've got there
[04:52] <Zentax-Work> Hey all. I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[04:52] <raf256> how can I rebuild from source apache2 with -fPIC gcc flag, and install it?
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: yes
[04:53] <hansonry> hmm
[04:53] <eternalswd> hansonry, yes, I just used google
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: used just a second ago
[04:53] <hansonry> must be an isolated problem
[04:53] <mongolai> hansonry, yup, me too.
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: if your box can't ping google.... your net is busted
[04:53] <hansonry> thanx a bunch guys
[04:53] <hansonry> well I cant
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: can't resolve google.com
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: probably
[04:53] <eternalswd> could be a location issue
[04:53] <mongolai> keep trying
[04:53] <hansonry> but I can get every other site
[04:53] <MTecknology> Is there anything that will let me do phone calls from my computer like Skype Out does for free?
[04:53] <jrib> raf256: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html edit debian/rules before rebuilding the package
[04:53] <neozen> hansonry: strange
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: are you in china?
[04:54] <onexused> How do I get a trash icon on the desktop (gnome) that I can drag things to?  If I make a launcher "nautilus trash:", it won't let me drag things to it to delete them.
[04:54] <hansonry> ya I know
[04:54] <hansonry> nope
[04:54] <Music_Shuffle> Maybe you angered the Google Overlords.
[04:54] <hansonry> usa
[04:54] <jrib> !icons > onexused (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:54] <hansonry> possibly
[04:54] <mongolai> hansonry, did you try to ping google.com
[04:54] <eternalswd> hansonry, try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:54] <neozen> onexused: welcome back
[04:54] <xenex> onexused, gconf-editor
[04:54] <hansonry> yup not one packet returned
[04:54] <onexused> xenex: thanks
[04:54] <raf256> jrib: is there a harden port/repo for ubuntu, containing programs builded in way integrating with PAX/grsecurity?
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: yep... your box's networking is busted
[04:54] <neozen> hansonry: good luck w/ that
[04:54] <hansonry> no i get other sites
[04:55] <eternalswd> hansonry, did you try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:55] <mongolai> that *is* weird
[04:55] <jrib> raf256: I don't know of a seperate hardened repo
[04:55] <hansonry> google is the only thing that is not working
[04:55] <hansonry> yup nothing
[04:55] <neozen> hansonry: are connections to google blocked by your proxy/firewall
[04:55] <raf256> hansonry: perhaps you'r in chinea
[04:55] <mongolai> hansonry, try youtube?
[04:55] <xenex> onexused, gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> trash_icon_visible true
[04:55] <ryan__> hi, i have ubuntu 7.04 with gnome and networkmanager, and for some reason my wireless doesnt work. i dont know if i have the driver, does anyone know how to add it on a normal dell inspiron with intel?
[04:55] <hansonry> 100% packet loss in 35012ms
[04:55] <hansonry> you tube works
[04:55] <neozen> raf256: I'm pretty sure they have their own (heavily censored) version of google in china
[04:56] <hansonry> but I cant play the movies for some reson
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: get to a terminal, type lspci
[04:56] <mongolai> did it work before, and just suddenly stop?
[04:56] <raf256> does ubuntu have more packages then debian unstable?
[04:56] <hansonry> ya
[04:56] <ryan__> no, it hasnt ever worked
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: select its output and put it in a pastebin
[04:56] <neozen> ryan__: get all that?
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
[04:56] <ryan__> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 01)
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 01)
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> NO DON'T PATE HERE!!!
[04:57] <hansonry> well I think I am going to call my isp
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> *paste
[04:57] <ryan__> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[04:57] <neozen> .......................don't ban him
[04:57] <raf256> sigh
[04:57] <hansonry> and its not just with ubuntu
[04:57] <neozen> newb mistake
[04:57] <jrib> neozen: he isn't banned
[04:57] <Atra_Phasma> neozen... back... tried using the 7.04 and 6.06 LiveCD versions... no luck
[04:57] <hansonry> vista cant get google eather
[04:57] <jrib> !paste | ryan__
[04:57] <ubotu> ryan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:57] <hansonry> ya
[04:57] <mongolai> hansonry, hang on a sec. lemme look something up real quick, OK?
[04:57] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: not livecd... ALTERNATE install cd
[04:57] <hansonry> ok
[04:57] <yggdrasil> how do i disable the touchpad clicking on a laptop ?
[04:58] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[04:58] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: only one with alternate in the name
[04:58] <ryan__> im confused where do i put it up?
[04:58] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: would you like a link to the iso?
[04:58] <xenex> yggdrasil, you would most likely do that through the bios
[04:58] <yggdrasil> hahah
[04:58] <jrib> ryan__: visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste there.   I'm gonna give you a link for something to try, but I've never used it...
[04:59] <hansonry> ok
[04:59] <nothanks> what video card would you guys recommend for a HDTV LCD being used for display
[04:59] <ryan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26695/
[04:59] <mongolai> ...so you're on your own. It gets good reviews though....
[04:59] <neozen> awesome
[04:59] <neozen> thank you
[04:59] <roho> !divx
[04:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:59] <mongolai> ...here it is: http://www.opendns.com/
[04:59] <Atra_Phasma> neozen... can i get the ISO link?
[04:59] <hansonry> well I could always check with my isp
[04:59] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: sure..; where are you located?
[05:00] <Atra_Phasma> Central Illinois, a Chicago server would be preferable
[05:00] <mongolai> it's an different DNS server. But since you can't ping the actual IP address, I don't know how much help it'd be.
[05:00] <ryan__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26695/ thats the pastebin
[05:00] <hansonry> well i run digital cable
[05:00] <hansonry> comcast
[05:00] <mongolai> hansonry, yea, that's probably the best thing to do.
[05:00] <eternalswd> hansonry, have you tried going through tor or something similar?
[05:00] <neozen> ryan__: here's your problem: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4328 (rev 01)
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: if that's indeed your wireless card
[05:01] <digimarkk> /exit
[05:01] <onexused> Thanks, people for your help.  Sorry I'm an idiot : )
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: and I'm pretty sure it is
[05:01] <ryan__> ok neozen, thanks, any recommendations? it should be some kind of basic intel card
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: its not an intel
[05:01] <neozen> ryan__: intel cards are seen by the kernel just fine
[05:01] <Atra_Phasma> nvm neozen, i found it
[05:01] <ryan__> oh
[05:01] <ryan__> weird
[05:02] <Atra_Phasma> should i be able to run 7.04?
[05:02] <eternalswd> ryan__, what computer model do you have?
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: broadcom's on the other hand........ are EVIL
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: and DON'T work
[05:02] <hansonry> this dns thing I dont think will help
[05:02] <ryan__> uh neozen eternalswd i have a Dell Inspiron E1505
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: (no open source driver that fully works)
[05:02] <hansonry> but thanks anyway mongolai and eternalswd
[05:02] <mongolai> yea, sorry. I don't either, now that I think about it...
[05:02] <neozen> ryan__: ok... scoping out info on that model
[05:02] <hansonry> I think I am going to call my isp
[05:03] <mongolai> hey, good luck!
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> @ neozen, should my 1.4GHZ Gateway laptop with 20gb free space be able to run 7.04 alongside XP as a dual boot?
[05:03] <ryan__> neozen thanks i really appreciate it
[05:03] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, try booting the live cd and see.
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> I have
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> the LiveCD lags horribly
[05:03] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, 20 gigs is enough.. Does it work on the live?
[05:03] <Atra_Phasma> the same with 6.06
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i dont know why they lag though..
[05:04] <eternalswd> ryan__, It looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 covers your card
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i installed 7.04 on a PIII earilier today.. it ran fine..
[05:04] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, that may be because it's running off the cd. how much ram do you have.
[05:04] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, how much RAM are in the two?
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> o have 190mb
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> i*
[05:04] <Music_Shuffle> Umm.  That's kinda low for Gnome. =/
[05:04] <mongolai> Atra_Phasma, hmmm.
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> and 256
[05:04] <Imsdle> my apache2 installation has totally stuffed up. how do i completely remove it and reintall it? i have tried the apt-get remove apache2 and apt-get clean and apt-get install apache2 but i still get httd (no pid file) not running
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> :-((
[05:04] <Atra_Phasma> ah well
[05:04] <neozen> ryan__: WHICH e1505 ... I see 3 listed here: http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_inspn_e1505?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[05:05] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, 190mb?  That's why it's lagging... 256 min..  You should try Xubuntu
[05:05] <Imsdle> im wroking on ubuntu server so need to do it via terminal
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Try Xubuntu?  Or Fluxbuntu/Flubuntu/whatever its spelled like?
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> difference in GUI appearence?
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: yeah... you need xubuntu
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, slightly
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> thanks
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> Atra_Phasma, Gnome and XFCE are rather similar in appearance.
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> ill dl the ISO
[05:05] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I warned you gnome would be really laggy on that little ram
[05:05] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I live in xubuntu
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> :-) im stubborn...
[05:05] <Atra_Phasma> :-(
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: and have rejoiced quite happily
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> ah well
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> :-)
[05:06] <ryan__> i think i have the 3rd one neozen
[05:06] <Scunizi> Atra_Phasma, Xubuntu can be a lot of fun.. Quick clean interface.
[05:06] <ryan__> with Intel PROset wireless
[05:06] <eternalswd> neozen, it's got to be that first one, seeing as that's the only one using a broadcom
[05:06] <mongolai> Atra_Phasma, I'm running on a Celeron 333mhz with 384 ram right now.
[05:06] <mongolai> w/ gnome
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: xubuntu has rejoiced too... seeing as it has a brand new thinkpad and 1gb of ram to play in
[05:06] <Imsdle> anyone for apache2 problem?
[05:06] <Atra_Phasma> :-O
[05:06] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: I just run it.... because its DAMN fast
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> lol
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> yays
[05:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: and has nothing I don't need
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> ok
[05:07] <mongolai> Imsdle, just a sec. Lemme look something up real quick
[05:07] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: though I have found it is lacking in a few key areas
[05:07] <Atra_Phasma> i *can* get automatix for it though?
[05:07] <Imsdle> thanks mongolai
[05:08] <eternalswd> ryan__, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 at all, looks like the post deals with your card.
[05:08] <Atra_Phasma> ill try it. thanks guys!
[05:08] <Atra_Phasma> g'night
[05:08] <neozen> Atra_Phasma: namely some soundcard setup (builtin microphone on the thinkpad setting for record isn't possible in xfce's mixer ... and haven't figured out how to do it in alsamixer).... and its lacking in network-manager-gnome ish wireless card configuration
[05:08] <ryan__> actually i think its the Dell broadcom one
[05:09] <mongolai> Imsdle, I just installed Apache2 today, only on feisty... (i'm still looking for something)...
[05:09] <ryan__> im looking through the page now eternalswd
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: yeah.... its got to be the dell one
[05:09] <Imsdle> yeah i have totally stuffed it so i need to just to a clean reinstall..
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: I've got an intel 3945abg..... worked out of box from dapper on up
[05:09] <swatF1RESTORM> what program can i use to play m4v video files from iTunes?
[05:09] <Imsdle> of apache2 that is
[05:09] <ryan__> neozen yeah my friends worked fine, his intel prosetwireless one
[05:09] <neozen> ryan__: and was recognized by the kernel as exactly what it is
[05:09] <Music_Shuffle> swatF1RESTORM, have you tried MPlayer?
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: closed source driver... but WORKING driver
[05:10] <mongolai> Imsdle, first off, here is the link I used:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Apache_HTTP_Server_for_HTTP_.28Web.29_Server_service
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: lets see what we can do to get you set up
[05:10] <mongolai> it might just pertain to you too...
[05:10] <swatF1RESTORM> Music_Shuffle, when I try to load it into mplayer nothing happens
[05:10] <neozen> ryan__: someone's probably duct-taped some solution together for this dell card
[05:10] <crapstick> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[05:10] <ryan__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092 im reading through this, i assume itll work
[05:10] <ryan__> or at least  hopefully
[05:11] <neozen> ryan__: scoping out now
[05:11] <Imsdle> thank you
[05:11] <eternalswd> neozen, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092.  he's looking there right now
[05:11] <mongolai> Imsdle, try: sudo apt-get install apache2      once again. then we'll go fron there
[05:11] <neozen> as am I
[05:11] <raf256> what is the name of gui installer in ubuntu?  and is it frontend to apt-get or to aptitude?
[05:12] <ryan__> brb 1 sec
[05:12] <swatF1RESTORM> raf256, synaptic package manager i think
[05:12] <neozen> looks written properly from here
[05:12] <mongolai> hey everyone, what's the name of that pastbin link for configuration files?
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> does anybody know how to setup ssh x window forwarding via the command line?
[05:13] <neozen> steps make sense given all the pounding I've done on 43xx series cards
[05:13] <neozen> yurimxpxman: possibly
[05:13] <mootmoo76> hi room
[05:13] <yurimxpxman> neozen: is it a simple command? I've already got the ssh
[05:13] <Stoffer> is my processor supposed to max out every time I use flash in firefox?
[05:13] <tommy_> how to repair my ubuntu?
[05:13] <neozen> yurimxpxman: saw something on x11forwarding in the man page for ssh and openssh-server
[05:14] <neozen> yurimxpxman: probably be just what you're looking for
[05:14] <yurimxpxman> neozen: thanks.  I know im probably not in the right channel to ask this. But im having some issues getting MythTV to work with my Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T card. Have updated my kernel to latest 2.6.20-16-generic, it seems that when i type dmesg that the card is detected. How-ever MythTV doesnt detect it and lspci does not see it either.
[05:18] <Ravenndude`> lol
[05:18] <ChewY> chewy@bowcaster:~/testing$ gcc -I /usr/include/mysql -L /usr/include/mysql main.cc -lmysqlclient -lm -lnsl -lsocket -o cashmoney
[05:18] <ChewY> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsocket
[05:18] <neozen> Ravenndude`: ubuntu seems to migrate this up to a somewhat modern aspect on security regarding devices like cdrom drive, usb ports etc
[05:18] <Fezzler> Ubuntu annimation program?
[05:18] <Ravenndude`> Zentax-Work, try #mythtv
[05:18] <ChewY> any official word on libsocket-dev package
[05:18] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, is the kernel module loaded?
[05:19] <neozen> Zentax-Work: correct me if I'm wrong... but doesn't that card require a special module?
[05:19] <ChewY> cause my /usr/lib/ld is empty and i have happycoders-libsocket-dev package installed
[05:19] <Zentax-Work> Yes that is correct. And i followed the instructions to get this up and going
[05:19] <mongolai> Imsdle, you still having problems with apache2?
[05:19] <eternalswd> neozen, was that ryan fellow able to get his wireless working?   I have also tried MythDora with no luck had the same issue. Which is why we installed Ubuntu and then MythTV ourself
[05:20] <jrib> !CoC > ChewY (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:21] <ChewY> jrib sorry, i knew better
[05:21] <ChewY> couldn't resist
[05:21] <neozen> ChewY: ........you be nice... or I'll start looking around for my anvil
[05:21] <ChewY> seductive the dark side is
[05:21] <Tremitos> Hello
[05:21] <neozen> hoallo Tremitos
[05:21] <Fezzler> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Macromedia Director or Authorware or Toolbook
[05:21] <neozen> Fezzler: not to my knowledge
[05:21] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, it's almost certainly some obscure dependency issue. Perhaps try a MythTV Distro?
[05:22] <chronographer> Hello.  I have a weird 'thing' which happens to my sound.  I used to have a problem with debian etch, where when using mpd and maybe vlc, sonata would 'disconnect' from mpd and any other sound program would freeze up. This was fixed by a reboot. I never identified the problem and it was intermitten.  Now I have a fresh ubuntu feisty install and it just happened again.  Using only Sonata, i changed songs and it disconnected from mpd
[05:22] <Fezzler> Annimation program for Ubuntu?
[05:22] <eternalswd> Fezzler, likely not, you'd probably have to run something through wine
[05:22] <Fezzler> no wine
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> We are about to attempt to try KnoppMyth how-ever it seems KnoppMyth has issues detecting our SATA drives.. typical.
[05:22] <chronographer> theres a 3d modelling program
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> Ubuntu seems to see the card fine
[05:22] <neozen> mongolai: something wrong with the mythtv packages in the feisty repos?
[05:22] <Zentax-Work> dvb-usb: Hauppauge Nova-T 500 Dual DVB-T successfully initialized and connected. << from dmesg
[05:22] <Fezzler> blender?
[05:22] <eternalswd> Fezzler, what kind of animation are you talking about, vector like flash?
[05:22] <yurimxpxman> neozen: I can't figure this out.. I think I have it enabled, but I don't know how to use it now.
[05:23] <Fezzler> ye
[05:23] <Fezzler> yes
[05:23] <mongolai> neozen, I don't know. I've never used it. I'm just sayin...
[05:23] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, do i want to select mic as output?
[05:23] <Fezzler> chrono: Blender, right?
[05:23] <Xello> hello
[05:23] <chronographer> yes
[05:23] <Xello> I used to be hansonry
[05:23] <neozen> yurimxpxman: ::nods:: yeah sorry... I've never done it just noticed the sections in the man pages
[05:23] <Fezzler> Steep learning curve
[05:23] <Xello> I found my problem
[05:23] <MatDanielMat> Q ident to channel howto
[05:23] <mongolai> Zentax-Work, isn't there a kernel boot parameter to help with that?
[05:23] <chronographer> i havent used it, or any animation progs tho
[05:23] <neozen> yurimxpxman: I'm sure there's a tutorial on it in the forums
[05:23] <eternalswd> Fezzler, you might look into the svg format, I believe that can be used for vector animation
[05:23] <ChewY> so
[05:24] <mongolai> ...on the Knoppix?
[05:24] <ChewY> anyone know whats up with libsocket on fiesty
[05:24] <ChewY> gcc ain't linking it
[05:24] <chronographer> surely theres plenty of documentation for blender, tuts on the net?
[05:24] <Xello> apperently I had to restart my router
[05:24] <Xello> it was droping packets from google
[05:24] <neozen> mongolai: where does one put custom boot parameters on ubuntu?
[05:24] <Delmar> I just re-installed vmware-server manually more or less following this here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto   -  and the weird networking issues I was having between host & guest are no longer an issue.  So the Automatix2 - vmware-server package on Feisty has a bug.
[05:24] <mongolai> ohhh, Blender! Perhaps more arcane than Emacs!
[05:24] <neozen> mongolai: haven't noticed a boot prompt
[05:24] <Zentax-Work> yes to add cx88_dvb to /etc/modules
[05:24] <Zentax-Work> which we did do
[05:24] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, I need to figure out how to set up my mic - idk if it's installed
[05:24] <Xello> thanks again mongolai and friends
[05:25] <chronographer> heh really!
[05:25] <Zentax-Work> how-ever when we do a lspci we shoudl see the card displayed there
[05:25] <Xello> whats wrong with blender
[05:25] <Zentax-Work> which we do not
[05:25] <Xello> ?
[05:25] <mongolai> neozen, hang on...
[05:25] <eternalswd> neozen, /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:25] <neozen> MTecknology: did you run gnome-alsamixer?
[05:25] <TaJMoX> emacs is way worse than blender
[05:25] <Xello> ya
[05:25] <MTecknology> NeoGeo64, ya
[05:25] <neozen> mongolai: take your time
[05:25] <mongolai> notice how grub tends to count down for I think 3 seconds before booting?
[05:25] <neozen> MTecknology: and I'm neozen mon...
[05:25] <Fezzler> Nothing.  Blender is awesome.  Very high learning curve though for occasional user
[05:25] <Xello> my professer can use emacs like a god
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: keep hitting tab
[05:26] <Xello> its sick
[05:26] <MTecknology> neozen, lol - sorry
[05:26] <Xello> but cool
[05:26] <GeekMaster1> Hey all.
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: no worries ::Grins::
[05:26] <ChewY> xello, i code in nano
[05:26] <Xello> ya
[05:26] <Xello> no gui?
[05:26] <ChewY> no
[05:26] <mongolai> well, If you hit "Esc" during that time, you can enter manual *kernel* boot parameters.
[05:26] <Xello> why?
[05:26] <Fezzler> Yea, Blender is unbelievable sick
[05:26] <GeekMaster1> Wa wondering which was my IP address... inet addr orbcast?
[05:26] <ChewY> xello meh i like the old black and white stuff
[05:26] <chronographer> You need to have used progs like emacs, vi etc. for like 10 years before you can be fast at them i reckon
[05:26] <neozen> MTecknology: ok... make sure rec is checked for your mic and its un muted
[05:27] <Xello> Chewy: good enuf for me
[05:27] <MTecknology> done
[05:27] <neozen> MTecknology: then fire up audacity and try to record something
[05:27] <albertmk> how can I remove the password request on the starting of ubuntu?
[05:27] <neozen> MTecknology: you might need to install audacity
[05:27] <MatDanielMat> Quick Question how do i identify my self to a channel
[05:27] <ChewY> xello plus its harder, more challenging
[05:27] <GeekMaster1> Anyone?
[05:27] <Xello> Chewy: my prof can churn out work on console like nothing iv ever seen
[05:27] <mudman266> will wine allow me to browse a windows drive? if not, what would you recommend?
[05:27] <Xello> so if it works it works
[05:27] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:27] <MTecknology> neozen, yup- but it's a good prog ne way :P
[05:27] <ChewY> xello you don't always got a gui in the field
[05:27] <neozen> MatDanielMat: by identify do you mean set up a password/register your nick?
[05:27] <Xello> im addicted to ides
[05:28] <eternalswd> MatDanielMat, you mean like "/msg nickserv identify passwd"?
[05:28] <MatDanielMat> yes sir
[05:28] <Xello> IDEs
[05:28] <chronographer> mudman: a ntfs partition?
[05:28] <mudman266> chrono: yes
[05:28] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:28] <Xello> Chewy: good point
[05:28] <GeekMaster1> Does anyone know which one my IP address is? INET ADDR or BCAST?
[05:28] <MatDanielMat> im trying to get into #python and I can't get in
[05:28] <mister_roboto> ChewY: well if you're doing it professionally, no purpose is served by slowing yourself down by artificial challenges that make doing your job "harder"  :)
[05:28] <ChewY> xello also in my current project, i'm working with 20 meg txt files, and the console loads and moves around them MUCH faster
[05:28] <chronographer> you should mount it with fstab, using ntfs-3g.  Then you can write to it using gniome whatever/.
[05:28] <neozen> MatDanielMat: /msg nickserv register youremail yourpassword
[05:28] <mister_roboto> ChewY: better to get more real work done :)
[05:28] <neozen> MatDanielMat: then follow directions
[05:28] <chronographer> hang a sec ill point you to a guide
[05:29] <mudman266> thnx
[05:29] <MatDanielMat> thanx a million
[05:29] <albertmk> How can I remove the password request on the starting of Ubuntu?
[05:29] <Xello> mister_robot: if ChewY: got good at it he can be more productive
[05:29] <MTecknology> neozen, everything seems to freeze when i try to record
[05:29] <Toma-> albertmk: gnome or CLI?
[05:29] <albertmk> GNOME
[05:29] <neozen> MTecknology: O.o .... interesting
[05:29] <Xello> Iv seen people hall ass on console
[05:29] <ChewY> xello yeah, i won't have all the girls on aim bothering me
[05:29] <mister_roboto> Xello: i absolutely agree. but then you're not using it becasue it's "harder" or more "challenging"
[05:29] <chronographer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131&highlight=make+new+mounted+drive+read+write
[05:29] <albertmk> Toma, Gnome.
[05:29] <neozen> MTecknology: is this a known issue with your particular hardware?
[05:29] <Xello> lol
[05:29] <Toma-> albertmk: System > Admin > Login Window
[05:29] <GeekMaster1> Does anyone know which one my IP address is? INET ADDR or BCAST?
[05:29] <MTecknology> neozen, no idea
[05:30] <Xello> but their picures are fun to look at
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: what kind of soundcard is it?
[05:30] <ChewY> xello: and no work gets done
[05:30] <Toma-> albertmk: then its in the Security Tab
[05:30] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, not enough info.
[05:30] <mister_roboto> Xello: i'm a long long time unix/vi programmer. vi is in my fingers. but just saying if it's harder, meaning just making it harder to get work done, well... that's not useful
[05:30] <Xello> I know transfer it to ascii
[05:30] <eternalswd> albertmk, see http://blog.grprakash.com/2006/11/08/auto-login-in-ubuntu/
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: this information can be gotten from your computer manufacturer if its cherry hardware
[05:30] <MTecknology> neozen, SigmaTel STA9250
[05:30] <ChewY> mister_roboto: vi is rough
[05:30] <neozen> MTecknology: ok... good
[05:30] <Xello> mister_roboto: you have a good point, i missed that
[05:30] <mister_roboto> ChewY: it's great for touch typists though
[05:30] <ChewY> mister_roboto: gotta use letters to move around
[05:31] <neozen> MTecknology: scoping out ubuntuforums.org now
[05:31] <eternalswd> MTecknology, go to the terminal and open up alsamixer
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: but when you finally memorize a useful set of commands, your fingers rarely have to leave the home row
[05:31] <chronographer> vi is hard to learn.. nano has shortcuts at teh bottom, you need to read a manual for vi!
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: that's what makes it fast
[05:31] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, ubuntu doesn't seem to ship with "man sockets", so do a google search for that
[05:31] <MTecknology> eternalswd, and?
[05:31] <eternalswd> MTecknology, what is the input source?
[05:31] <Xello> well guys its been fun, but its sleepy time, got to go to work at 7:00 am
[05:31] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm trying to figure out my IP address so I type "ifconfig eth0 | grep inet" and i get "inet addr" and "bcast"
[05:31] <Xello> bye bye
[05:31] <ChewY> mister_roboto: good point, i might pick up on that martial art
[05:31] <MTecknology> eternalswd, mic
[05:31] <mister_roboto> ChewY: lol
[05:31] <neozen> MTecknology: hmm... nothing in the forums
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: giving google a shot
[05:32] <eternalswd> MTecknology, okay, now in alsamixer press F5
[05:32] <mister_roboto> ChewY: if you wanna be a programmer, it helps a LOT to learn to touch type
[05:32] <chronographer> inet add is your ip
[05:32] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i need a "balanced" keyboard, this one i got has weird page up and page down settings, throws me off all the time
[05:32] <eternalswd> MTecknology, what's the Capture volume set to?
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: are you sure that isn't a SigmaTel STAC9250?
[05:32] <MTecknology> 73
[05:32] <neozen> MTecknology: notice the c
[05:32] <GeekMaster1> chronographer: thank you
[05:32] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, hold on a sec...
[05:33] <ChewY> mister_roboto: when i get home from work, it totally messes up my flow
[05:33] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: ok
[05:33] <mister_roboto> ChewY: yeah, i understand that
[05:33] <albertmk> Toma, in security there is no option for that
[05:33] <MTecknology> neozen, ya, sry
[05:33] <ChewY> mister_roboto: then when i go to work, i'm thrown off again
[05:33] <neozen> MTecknology: lol... no problem
[05:33] <eternalswd> albertmk, did you look at http://blog.grprakash.com/2006/11/08/auto-login-in-ubuntu/ yet?
[05:33] <mister_roboto> ChewY: i have to say though, when i'm doing any java development, i've grown quite fond of eclipse
[05:33] <neozen> MTecknology: just seemed strange that NO ONE had had problems or posted a solution on that card yet
[05:34] <neozen> MTecknology: every time I've had an issue.. the ubuntuforums have already had something on it
[05:34] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, OK, are you on some uni or work network?
[05:34] <ChewY> mister_roboto: you know anything about whats up with libsocket in fiesty
[05:34] <neozen> MTecknology: or at the very least, someone else had had the same problem and were unable to fix it
[05:34] <mister_roboto> ChewY: sorry, no
[05:34] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i NEED those headers
[05:34] <Perdente> what program do you get so that you can record what is going on, on your monitor?
[05:34] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: i'm on a college campus, yes
[05:34] <MTecknology> neozen, i'm probably the first to hit this problem
[05:35] <MTecknology> on this card i mena
[05:35] <MTecknology> mean*
[05:35] <mongolai> well, ok. Try this to get your external IP address: http://ipaddress.com/
[05:35] <ChewY> mister_roboto: looks like gcc config is broken or the headers arn't where they need to be
[05:35] <mongolai> ...more in a minute...
[05:35] <roads-02> gsfattrj
[05:35] <roads-02> ggagjjdj
[05:35] <roads-02> kamu ghe
[05:35] <roads-02> uugduhia
[05:36] <eternalswd> MTecknology, which version of alsa do you have?
[05:36] <mister_roboto> ChewY: /usr/include/sys/socket.h?
[05:36] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, you there?
[05:36] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: Thank you. Do you know how to figure out my subnet? eg: 192.168.(something).(something)?
[05:36] <neozen> MTecknology: indeed.... laptop came w/ vista I take it?
[05:36] <mongolai> yes...
[05:36] <doms> any body can help me?  i wondering why my firefox starting to download my  http://localhost/testphp.php
[05:36] <neozen> MTecknology: might be brand freaking new
[05:36] <ChewY> mister_roboto: /usr/bin/ld
[05:37] <neozen> MTecknology: quite possibly could have NO driver other then a vista driver
[05:37] <mongolai> you are inet addr. Bcast is a mask.
[05:37] <neozen> ....a sobering thought indeed
[05:37] <mister_roboto> ChewY: you saying you can't find libsock?
[05:37] <neozen> google only shows two results for it
[05:37] <doms> any body can help me?  i wondering why my firefox starting to download my  http://localhost/testphp.php
[05:37] <ChewY> mister_roboto: yeah
[05:37] <eternalswd> doms, sounds like apache isn't configured to use php
[05:37] <mongolai> ...sorry bcast is probably your router.
[05:37] <neozen> ....sure sign of new hardware
[05:37] <MTecknology> neozen, thank god not... Gateway M285-E Tablet PC
[05:38] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/ZoEywO83.html    here is my pastebin
[05:38] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: which one? My inet addr and bcast are two different values. Which one is my subnet mask?
[05:38] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i've installed happy-coders-libsock and -dev
[05:38] <mister_roboto> hmmm...
[05:38] <neozen> holy crud
[05:39] <mongolai> wait, you want a subnet mask, or *your computer's* personal  LAN address?
[05:39] <neozen> might need to patch your kernel
[05:39] <MTecknology> it's a piece of shit computer w/ no supported hardware
[05:39] <neozen> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.devel.kernel.general/2007-02/msg00006.html
[05:39] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm here
[05:39] <neozen> I'm scoping that out right now
[05:39] <MTecknology> I'll never choose to use a gateway computer again after this
[05:39] <neozen> ...looks to be a kernel patch
[05:39] <k-os> someone direct me to the RT2500 installation guide, if there is one?
[05:39] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/ZoEywO83.html    here is my pastebin
[05:39] <k-os> it's a wireless card, built on that module
[05:39] <__hase> I'm having a ton of trouble trying to install ubuntu on my neighbors computer
[05:39] <eternalswd> doms, not sure what to tell you then
[05:40] <Pie-rate> sound isn't working in teamspeak. I'm running it in aoss
[05:40] <mongolai> ifconfig will tell you your subnet mask. It's the one labeled "Mask:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[05:40] <doms> eternalswd: do u have idea how to config my apache2
[05:40] <Pie-rate> other things work
[05:40] <eternalswd> doms, and you don't need to paste the same thing every minute.
[05:40] <ChewY> mister_roboto: when i try to install from source i get another error
[05:40] <Pie-rate> but TS2 isn't
[05:40] <mister_roboto> ChewY: install what from source?
[05:40] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: I'm using a tutorial to get my LAN working on VirtualBox. Does'nt the luink you give me show me my EXTERNAL IP address? Shouldn't I be using my internal IP address for the tutorial? The tutorial tells me to"Next, you need to replace <vbox_ip> with an IP that is within your subnet." Use the BCAST for that?
[05:40] <Pie-rate> it also crashes when i try to exit it
[05:40] <ChewY> mister_roboto: libsocket
[05:41] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, what kind of problems??
[05:41] <mongolai> ..your computer is "inet addr", and Bcast is most likely your router.
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: this is why I do SERIOUS research into a laptop before I buy it...
[05:41] <eternalswd> doms, there should be an httpd.conf or apache.conf file somewhere. try to run locate for those files.
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: everything in there better support linux
[05:41] <mister_roboto> ChewY: this is interesting. i had no idea that there was anything odd with socket libs on feisty
[05:41] <__hase> well, I go to start/install and it always says something about hdc timeout
[05:41] <navets> how do you link to something using href? i have my stuff in a directory called testing and my file is called blog.html
[05:41] <doms> eternalswd: oki then i'll show  how they config
[05:41] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, does live disk run???
[05:41] <__hase> yea
[05:41] <neozen> MTecknology: as a result... my first laptop purchase supported ubuntu dapper out of the box
[05:41] <__hase> wait
[05:42] <__hase> no
[05:42] <eternalswd> MTecknology, which version of alsa do you have again I may have missed your answer?
[05:42] <ChewY> mister_roboto: socket.hh:186: error: extra qualification 'Network::Socket::' on member '_check_answer'
[05:42] <navets> would it be: <a href="blog.html">Blog</a>
[05:42] <MTecknology> neozen, It was something my university said we HAVE to use
[05:42] <neozen> MTecknology: indeed ...what version of alsa?
[05:42] <__hase> Just up to the point where it asks if I want to install, check for errors, and do a memory test
[05:42] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, I don't know this VirtualBox, but your comp's address *within* your subnet is almost certainly the "inet addr"
[05:42] <MTecknology> eternalswd, how do i find out?
[05:42] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i should have gone with freebsd heh, i just might
[05:42] <MISTERTibbs> __hase, so live disk does give u the demo, but crashes on install?
[05:42] <neozen> MTecknology: this patch I was referring to might be in alsa 1.0.14 final
[05:42] <c00i90wn> does anyone know how to rotate the beryl cube with keyshortcuts but don't stop on the top/bottom caps?
[05:42] <eternalswd> MTecknology, quickest way is to open up synaptic and search for alsa-base
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: and thus possibly in all future versions
[05:43] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: so if the tutorial says "Next, you need to replace <vbox_ip> with an IP that is within your subnet. It doesn't matter what it is, I use <IP_ADDRESS>" and my BCAST says 10.100.678.987, use 10.100.168.(anything)?
[05:43] <Frogzoo> c00i90wn: disabling top/bottom faces is in options
[05:43] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/X1EI9O75.html
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: get to a terminal and type aptitude show alsa-base
[05:43] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: but that disables it for mouse rotation
[05:43] <MTecknology> 1.0.13-3ubuntu1
[05:43] <neozen> MTecknology: also make sure you've upgraded all your packages to latest version
[05:44] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: unless I'm not looking at the right place
[05:44] <ChewY> i might be doing something wrong
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: sudo aptitude update
[05:44] <c00i90wn> Frogzoo: but looked for it several times
[05:44] <ChewY> ./configure make make install
[05:44] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, yea that link was for the external network address. the WAN side.
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:44] <ChewY> is what i'm running
[05:44] <mongolai> ...
[05:44] <GeekMaster1> ok. Thank you mongolai.
[05:44] <neozen> MTecknology: if it looks like it wants to install a new kernel, install the kernel and reboot
[05:44] <mongolai> ...Aside from that, I can't really help you because I don't know the VBox thing.
[05:44] <MTecknology> neozen, is apt-get good enough?
[05:44] <daquino> how do i get sound in flash 9 firefox
[05:45] <k1gwb> Is there any way to 'turn on' visual feedback when entering a password into sudo?
[05:45] <neozen> MTecknology: yes ... for this purpose apt-get is just fine
[05:45] <Pie-rate> WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY doesn't teamspeak work?
[05:45] <neozen> MTecknology: since you won't be removing the updates you get
[05:45] <lo4fer> how many lines of code in the recent versions of linux kernels approximately
[05:45] <MTecknology> nothing to install
[05:45] <neozen> lo4fer: would you like english or metric?
[05:45] <doms> eternalswd: heres from httpd.conf  http://rafb.net/p/dHsKew73.html
[05:45] <greg_g> !dvd
[05:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:45] <mongolai> lo4fer, you really want to know?
[05:46] <neozen> lo4fer: a shit-ton or a metric-assload respectively
[05:46] <Goetmet> has anyone installed the new compiz fusion ?
[05:46] <vzduch> *omfg*
[05:46] <ChewY> such a waste of time, i need to bump out this msql code, and ubuntu is bugged
[05:46] <vlt> can't get usb headphone to work with firefox
[05:47] <vzduch> USB headphones? *shudder*
[05:47] <ChewY> mysql*
[05:47] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, did that help? I hope you get it figured out. You should check out:   insecure.org   to learn more about IP address..
[05:47] <neozen> vlt: indeed
[05:47] <vlt> every thing works but firefox
[05:47] <vzduch> headphones are supposed to be connected to the soundcard, not to USB..
[05:47] <doms> eternalswd: did you get the pastebin
[05:47] <vlt> these work with skype
[05:47] <lo4fer> yes i would like to know
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: is that that one they have on their site for 9.99?
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: they don't show the jack in the pic
[05:48] <vlt> no their not usb
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: good
[05:48] <eternalswd> doms, yes, go to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_PHP_for_Apache_HTTP_Server and make sure you've done everything to test it.
[05:48] <neozen> vlt: I'll probably be buying that one when I finally do get a headset
[05:48] <trpr> vzduch: i dunno. if they don't require their own soundcard i can see where they might have their use
[05:49] <neozen> vlt: usb headsets just seem....... not right to me
[05:49] <doms> eternalswd: ok then  talk to you later
[05:49] <neozen> vlt: I see too much potential for kaboom
[05:49] <Goetmet> any compiz comp/compiz fusion user here?
[05:49] <doms> eternalswd: anyway i'am using feisty fawn verion
[05:49] <neozen> Goetmet: try #ubuntu-effects
[05:49] <vlt> usb mic works, other mic doesn't
[05:49] <__hase> Goetmet: Does Beryl count?
[05:49] <neozen> Goetmet: you're bound to find everyone running EVERYTHING there
[05:50] <Goetmet> ok thanks neozen
[05:50] <eternalswd> MTecknology, you may want to compile alsa for yourself.  I've got a Sigmatel STAC9221 and support in 1.0.14 is better.
[05:50] <neozen> Goetmet: that's the channel for beryl/compix thingies
[05:50] <MTecknology> eternalswd, dload from source?
[05:50] <neozen> eternalswd: yay.... someone who can fix!
[05:50] <neozen> MTecknology: aye
[05:50] <neozen> MTecknology: download from source
[05:50] <MTecknology> ... fun
[05:51] <neozen> MTecknology: need help walking through compiling the module?
[05:51] <mister_roboto> ChewY: the socket functions are in libc
[05:51] <vzduch> as for building from src.. I chose to build Audacious myself.. the build in backports is outdated, and sid packages won't install
[05:51] <neozen> sounds like he's done it himself
[05:51] <MTecknology> neozen, i'll try it out
[05:51] <eternalswd> MTecknology, you want alsa-driver alsa-utils and alsa-lib
[05:52] <b33r> Is there a program to encrypt/decrypt RC4 on ubuntu?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: I built mplayer from source forever
[05:52] <vzduch> what's RC4?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: this is when it wasn't in the repositories
[05:52] <ChewY> mister_roboto: package name?
[05:52] <neozen> vzduch: md5 I think
[05:52] <crimsun> eternalswd: gateways need current alsa-kernel hg.  alsa-driver 1.0.14 is insufficient.
[05:52] <MTecknology> eternalswd, any direct links? :P
[05:52] <GeekMaster1> mongolai: you sure "BCAST" is my subnet mask?
[05:53] <crimsun> further, only alsa-kernel and alsa-driver are necessary.  Don't touch alsa-lib and alsa-utils.
[05:53] <neozen> O.o another one wading in...
[05:53] <neozen> MTecknology: I think its gonna be ok
[05:53] <vlt> any ideas on the firefox/flash audio?
[05:53] <mister_roboto> you should have it with the base system (the library)   it's needed by almost everything
[05:53] <MTecknology> neozen, ?
[05:53] <mongolai> GeekMaster1, no. that's your gateway. "Mask:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" is your subnet mask.
[05:53] <mister_roboto> ChewY: i wrote a simple program that created a socket and it linked without specifying any libs at all
[05:53] <neozen> MTecknology: talk to crimsun he'll probably be FAR more help then I
[05:53] <ChewY> mister_roboto: i just got it to a compile doing the same thing
[05:54] <mister_roboto> ChewY: then i googled a bit and it said on linux the socket functions are part of libc
[05:54] <JerseyMonkey> I have a tv tuner in my pcmia slot, and I was recomended installing TvTime. It seems to detect the card at /dev/video0, but I cannot get it to play component cable. How do I tell it to read the component cable, or is there another app I should be using?
[05:54] <eternalswd> MTecknology, yep, seems to know more than me as well
[05:54] <mongolai> Ignore loopback
[05:54] <mister_roboto> ChewY: well there you go :)   they are not in a separate library here
[05:54] <mongolai> or device lo
[05:54] <ChewY> mister_roboto: libc == c STL?
[05:54] <Toulouse> ey guys, i just got a new hdd, but i want to clone the hdd i have running ubuntu and put it on that hdd, how do i do this?
[05:55] <MTecknology> crimsun, you have any easy way to get me the newest alsa?
[05:55] <Toulouse> basically, how do i make a  backup of this hard drive on the new one?
[05:55] <mister_roboto> ChewY: no, not stl.   stl is mostly all templates in header files
[05:55] <crimsun> MTecknology: it's fairly straightforward.  Install the following packages: build-essential mercurial autoconf automake1.7
[05:55] <neozen> easy... and kernel module compilation .... don't seem negotiated in my mind
[05:55] <neozen> ...yet
[05:55] <ChewY> mister_roboto: thx, this will be enough to get me going tomorrow
[05:56] <vlt> can't get usb headphone to work with firefox
[05:56] <Toulouse> what is the recommended way to back up a complete harddrive on another?
[05:56] <neozen> chewy: I think the stl is libc++std or something like that
[05:56] <Toulouse> he's gone
[05:56] <crimsun> MTecknology: next, execute: hg clone http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver && hg clone http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel
[05:56] <Ainokea> hi
[05:57] <cafuego> Toulouse: Depends. If you need a complete mirror inc partitons, dd or partimage or somesuch. If all you need is the data, rsync.
[05:57] <neozen> never heard of hg before
[05:57] <Ainokea> I cant seem to figure out why ubuntu wont start... any suggestions?
[05:57] <cafuego> mercurial - versioning syste,
[05:57] <crimsun> MTecknology: next, execute: cd alsa-driver && ./hgcompile --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install-modules
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: what's your ram situation?
[05:57] <vzduch> neozen: libstdc++
[05:57] <Ainokea> 2 gigs
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: how much have you got?
[05:57] <neozen> Ainokea: hmmmm
[05:57] <Toulouse> cafuego: i want to make the other hard drive exacltly like the one i have, but the other (new) one has more capacity
[05:57] <crimsun> MTecknology: after all those steps complete, you should reboot.
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Ainokea, what exactly is going wrong?
[05:57] <cafuego> s/versioning/yet another - why exactly do we need so many/
[05:58] <neozen> Ainokea: any scary text on startup?
[05:58] <eternalswd> Toulouse, you could look at http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[05:58] <Ainokea> well I'm trying to install it
[05:58] <MTecknology> crimsun, how long doesw it take to do that first command?
[05:58] <neozen> Ainokea: think bright red flashy things
[05:58] <MTecknology> "adding file changes"
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Ainokea, and what happens?
[05:58] <mongolai> Ainokea, probably an ACPI or APIC issue...
[05:58] <neozen> apic?
[05:58] <Ainokea> I set start ubuntu and install
[05:58] <cafuego> Toulouse: I'd probably go with rsync, and just copy the data onto new empty aprtitions.
[05:58] <mongolai> ...nevermind...
[05:59] <Ainokea> then it goes to the screen that says ubuntu and progress bar. It just stops there
[05:59] <MTecknology> crimsun, nevermind it moved - i'll try that all out :)
[05:59] <eternalswd> neozen, MTecknology, well, I'm out of here, got some other things to do.
[05:59] <neozen> cafuego: we need many ...because that's the nature of good software
[05:59] <neozen> cafuego: choice
[05:59] <MTecknology> eternalswd, aight, ty
[05:59] <Ainokea> any suggestions?
[05:59] <neozen> imho
[05:59] <vzduch> btw.. I haven't found out yet how to pass options to the livecd kernel on boot
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: you can't
[06:00] <vzduch> what?
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: use the alternate cd
[06:00] <neozen> vzduch: kills the whole boot-promt necessity
[06:00] <neozen> *prompt
[06:00] <mongolai> vzduch, there's an option for that. Hit an arrow key to stop the timer then read the screen. I don't remember what it says...
[06:00] <vzduch> would be good for troubleshooting if you could at least choose to boot w/o splash
[06:00] <neozen> O.o
[06:01] <mongolai> ...but there is an option to edit the command line.
[06:01] <vzduch> which is?
[06:02] <GeekMaster1> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP EVERYONE
[06:02] <RoC_MM> you read the bottom of the screen
[06:02] <mongolai> hmmm, maybe "e" for edit. I'n not sure, but it's there
[06:02] <RoC_MM> it's like F something
[06:02] <Ainokea> should I try to use a differnet method ot install ubuntu?
[06:03] <neozen> Ainokea: I would
[06:03] <vzduch> I read something like that in the help screen, but it doesn't say how to edit the boot line
[06:03] <neozen> Ainokea: try the alternate install
[06:03] <sinep> HAAALP
[06:03] <RoC_MM> yeah
[06:03] <RoC_MM> it shows the boot line on the screen
[06:03] <javadan> Hello
[06:03] <RoC_MM> then you edit it with the keyboard
[06:03] <mongolai> vzduch, it guides you through it when you hit whatever key needs to be hit
[06:03] <neozen> sinep: no drowning here you!
[06:03] <Ainokea> k
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> I'm afraid if I use Linux too much, I will forget how to use Windows and appear retarded in front of others.
[06:03] <NeoGeo64> im being serious
[06:04] <sinep> :)
[06:04] <neozen> NeoGeo64: lol
[06:04] <vzduch> *omfg*
[06:04] <roho> that's hilarious
[06:04] <neozen> NeoGeo64: been ls'ing at dos prompt have we?
[06:04] <roho> but it's happened to me
[06:04] <vzduch> NeoGeo64: I'd worry 'bout somethin' else..
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> neozen, actually, YES!
[06:04] <NeoGeo64> i have
[06:04] <sinep> Okie dokie.
[06:05] <neozen> common issue
[06:05] <NeoGeo64> i forget to type dir in dos alot.
[06:05] <RoC_MM> NeoGeo64, just act snide like some of the Mac people.  Tell them you've reached enlightenment.
[06:05] <neozen> hell
[06:05] <sinep> I need to find the my iPood so that I can mount it.
[06:05] <neozen> tell them you RUN enlightenment
[06:05] <sinep> Can ya help me?
[06:05] <RoC_MM> yeah
[06:05] <PanzerMKZ> I type ls at the dos prompt all the time
[06:05] <javadan> I reached enlightenment with my Mac and installed Linux.
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> but am wondering what to put in xorg.conf for a Matrox G450
[06:06] <TaRDy> Hey using ubuntu 7.04 x64, I'm having issues viewing flash, I was told to use nspluginwrapper is this right?
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> for the drivers
[06:06] <neozen> NeoGeo64: and when they look confused give them this url: http://enlightenment.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <PanzerMKZ> vid drive
[06:06] <neozen> NeoGeo64: and grin
[06:06] <plastikmatik> when i do apt-get dist-upgrade it tries to upgrade some packages that i dont want to.... how can i prevent apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade some packages that i dont want to upgrade?
[06:06] <neozen> javadan: I've known quite a few people who just installed an x server and gnome
[06:06] <neozen> javadan: on top of mac os
[06:06] <sinep> Hmmm
[06:07] <neozen> sinep: yeah we can help
[06:07] <neozen> sinep: soon as you ask a question
[06:07] <NeoGeo64> ls is better than dir
[06:07] <plastikmatik> any ideas?
[06:07] <NeoGeo64> dir is 3 letters
[06:07] <sinep> I did. It an extremely easy question.
[06:07] <neozen> plastikmatik: I don't think it works like that
[06:07] <Vich> doskey ls=dir
[06:07] <neozen> plastikmatik: which packages are you looking to avoid?
[06:07] <javadan> neozen: I installed linux on my old iBook- worked pretty good.
[06:07] <sinep> I need to find where a usb device is located so I can mount it.
[06:08] <neozen> sinep: are you in graphical ubuntu?
[06:08] <sinep> Kubuntu does not appear to auto-mount things and it is helluva lot differnt than Arch.
[06:08] <IcemanV9> NeoGeo64: alias dir=ls in your terminal ... that way you won't forget ;)
[06:08] <sinep> neozen: Yes.
[06:08] <plastikmatik> neozen : linux-generic linux-headers-2.6.20-16 linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic linux-image-generic linux-libc-dev linux-restricted-modules-common linux-restricted-modules-generic
[06:08] <neozen> sinep: OHHH you're in kubuntu
[06:08] <plastikmatik> neozen : lol, everything that starts with linux-*
[06:08] <vzduch> Kubuntu does auto-mount things.. worked w/ my Samsung MP3 player ever since
[06:08] <javadan> I am having problems printing to an hp3650 from my linux box via Samba. Connects okay, print job appears, but printer then hangs.  Driver issue?
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: something wrong with the new kernel?
[06:09] <sinep> Hmm
[06:09] <plastikmatik> neozen : i just want to keep things as they are
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: .................
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: then don't do a dist-upgrade
[06:09] <sinep> vzduch: It doesn't auto-mount anything for me.
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: things will remain EXACTLY as they are
[06:09] <plastikmatik> sometimes when i upgrade my kernel the video card stop working
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: AH
[06:09] <plastikmatik> neozen : i want to dist-upgrade all packages less those ones
[06:09] <sinep> ...
[06:09] <neozen> plastikmatik: that can be fixed
[06:10] <plastikmatik> is there some way to do that ?
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: laptop?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> yes
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: thinkpad?
[06:10] <sinep> There isn't a command to display where it is at?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> no, dell
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: or late model dell
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: intel945gm
[06:10] <vzduch> sinep: a hot-plugged USB storage device should be shown as an icon on the desktop or in Konqueror -> Storage media
[06:10] <plastikmatik> ati
[06:10] <plastikmatik> x1300
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: breaks when you hit the brightness keys?
[06:10] <plastikmatik> nope
[06:10] <plastikmatik> it's ok right now
[06:10] <neozen> plastikmatik: screen goes blank?
[06:11] <neozen> plastikmatik: on the newest kernel I mean
[06:11] <plastikmatik> since my kernel is running perfect, i dont want to upgrade it
[06:11] <neozen> plastikmatik: can't do that
[06:11] <plastikmatik> so i cant dist-upgrade all packages less a few ones ?
[06:13] <plastikmatik> that i specify
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: nope
[06:13] <plastikmatik> mm ok, an alternative could be just to install the new kernel but not using it ?
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: code it.... and resolve dependencies sanely... and you will be as god
[06:13] <plastikmatik> the new kernel wont replace my current one right?
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: problem lies in newer packages which REQUIRE that newer kernel
[06:13] <plastikmatik> hmmm
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: happens quite frequently in a dist upgrade
[06:13] <plastikmatik> grrrrrr
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: lol
[06:13] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: just upgrade your distro
[06:13] <doms> eternalswd: http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: and we'll fix what breaks
[06:13] <plastikmatik> lol
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: you're not in xubuntu right?
[06:13] <plastikmatik> no
[06:13] <plastikmatik> ubuntu feisty
[06:13] <vzduch> plastikmatik: the new kernel will be added to your Grub (or Lilo), you can still boot the old kernel unless you explicitly uninstall it
[06:13] <doms> anybody can hep my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: ..................then don't upgrade
[06:13] <doms> anybody can hel my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: you shouldn't need to upgrade at all if you're running feisty
[06:13] <doms> anybody can help my  apache php configuration  http://rafb.net/p/SQD6ag85.html  check this link
[06:13] <neozen> plastikmatik: dist upgrade anyway
[06:14] <neozen> plastikmatik: feisty is latest version
[06:14] <MrOtacon> hey guys - i need help fast... how do you kill a task from in the console?
[06:14] <Ravenndude`> What's better for playing DVDs, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[06:14] <neozen> kill
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: kill
[06:14] <MrOtacon> neozen: Just Kill - Then task name?
[06:14] <LCCUB> MrOtacon: do ps x, get the PID of the task and then kill it
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: kill -9 pidofprogramtokill
[06:14] <neozen> MrOtacon: you need its pid
[06:14] <vzduch> Ravenndude`: use whatever pleases you
[06:14] <SperMite_> anyone using amarok on ubuntu feisty>