[00:00] <Guest70679> how to register user in here ???
[00:00] <ikeakan> Is there a way to force an upgrade of Ubuntu 8.10 whose servers are no longer available?
[00:00] <phong_> what is up guys?
[00:00] <dzup> its a joke, relax
[00:00] <pfifo> !register | Guest70679
[00:00] <phong_> ikeakan, what is up?
[00:00] <phong_> pfifo, hi, what is up?
[00:00] <Jordan_U> !eol | ikeakan
[00:00] <pfifo> hi phong_
[00:00] <Guest70679> no, i mean with another nick. i dont want <Guest70679> as user TT
[00:01] <phong_> pfifo, what is up?
[00:01] <ikeakan> Jordan_U: I understand that it's EOL. The problem is that I don't have a cd or dvd burner, so I can't just install 11.04. I need to somehow force it to upgrade or do an installation of 11.04 without cd.
[00:02] <Guest70679> register
[00:02] <Guest70679> register | xxx
[00:02] <Flannel> ikeakan: See the last link in that factoid
[00:02] <rww> Guest70679: go read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration
[00:02] <Flannel> ikeakan: (that's the thing that ubottu said to you)
[00:02] <Guest70679> oke2
[00:02] <Guest70679> i will try
[00:03] <ikeakan> Flannel, Jordan_U: My apologies. I didn't read the last part and jumped to conclusions. Sorry.
[00:03] <Flannel> ikeakan: No worries.
[00:03] <ikeakan> Flannel: Jordan_U: Thanks for your help.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ikeakan: np.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> ikeakan: You're welcome.
[00:03] <Lown> Hey Guy
[00:04] <Lown> Va bene ?
[00:05] <Scottamunga> hey what's the package name for the volume control applet in gnome panel?
[00:05] <Random832> Scottamunga: i think it's part of the panel now
[00:05] <Random832> since it's treated as a menu/notification icon thing instead of an applet
[00:06] <Scottamunga> Random832: oh, I knew it was in natty, now that they're using unity
[00:06] <Scottamunga> I'm still using 2.32
[00:06] <Scottamunga> (on mint 11)
[00:07] <Random832> i think it might have been before that - along with the network status and battery
[00:07] <Random832> and weird envelope thingy
[00:07] <Scottamunga> oh, I installed/uninstalled kde, and now the applet is gone
[00:07] <Scottamunga> lol
[00:08] <Scottamunga> thank ya
[00:08] <RevSpecies116> Scottamunga: perhaps if you: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    The notification may come back?
[00:08] <Kasjopaja2311> mh
[00:10] <Scottamunga> will try that Random832
[00:10] <Scottamunga> ttyl
[00:12] <silit_gembuk> halo
[00:13] <silit_gembuk> what r u talking about?
[00:15] <djiefo> Hi, I want to install Adobe Shockwave Player, is it possible through xubuntu 11.04?
[00:15] <ErrorException> @djiefo I believe that adobe develops for linux in general, so maybe.
[00:16] <lazart> djief: look for "flash player" in the software center
[00:17] <nosmelc> Why is it that LibreOffice has Base greyed out for me?  The LibreOffice channel says it's not a LO problem
[00:17] <silit_gembuk> OPEN OFFICE vs LIBRE OFFICE, which one is better????
[00:18] <lazart> djief: or flash plugin nonfree
[00:18] <lazart> djief: but you have to enable restricted repositories
[00:18] <nosmelc> silit_gembuk: there seems to be more development for LO right now.  I switched to it from OO
[00:18] <rww> nosmelc: because you don't have it installed, perhaps? Try installing the libreoffice-base package.
[00:19] <rww> (it's not installed by default)
[00:19] <djiefo> ErrorException, i don't find any link on shockwave main site
[00:19] <nosmelc> rww: ohh ok.  I thought it would be there by default.  Thanks
 i'm using LO,, but it slowly rather tahn OO
[00:21] <ErrorException> @djiefo Do you have Wine? You could install the windows version through it.
[00:22] <djiefo> ErrorException,  it will works fine in Firefox?
[00:23] <ErrorException> @djiefo Maybe not in Firefox, i found a linux shockwave player called Gnash. Try looking into that
[00:23] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:24] <djiefo> ErrorException,  i'm trying to play to isketch through firefox but I need Shocjwave player... With gnash, will I be able to go to isketch.net?
[00:25] <captainjamie> Hello everyone! Does anyone know if Ubuntu will run on a tablet with multi-touch?
[00:26] <RevSpecies116> captainjamie: yes, and no
[00:26] <captainjamie> what's the yes?
[00:26] <ErrorException> @djiefo I do not have a shockwave player, let me try gnash out first.
[00:26] <RevSpecies116> Have you jailbroken your tablet?
[00:26] <captainjamie> I don't have one yet, I'm buying one for Uni
[00:26] <captainjamie> wondering which to buy...
[00:27] <RevSpecies116> Well, if you have an Android based tablet [when you buy it], the best community to answer that question is XDA
[00:27] <captainjamie> XDA? google...
[00:28] <RevSpecies116> www.xda-developers.com/ <-- That link, captainjamie
[00:28] <captainjamie> Ah thanks!
[00:29] <RevSpecies116> No troubles :) Oh, and captainjamie if you have a good Android smartphone [like a Nexus 1], you can install Ubuntu on that, too
[00:29] <RevSpecies116> But that is next to useless, due to the size of the screen - but non-the-less it can be done ;)
[00:29] <captainjamie> like this you mean? http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-desire-hd-booting-ubuntu-natively/ this is a good site
[00:30] <captainjamie> but on an android tablet you think it'd work and be ok?
[00:30] <RevSpecies116> Yep, captainjamie :) But there is still some concern that is a 'fake' - most Ubuntu running on Android is via Chroot
[00:31] <captainjamie> Chroot?
[00:31] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu CAN run, and has been shown to run, but via chroot, not nativly
[00:31] <RevSpecies116> I don't know chroot, sorry
[00:31] <EastDallas> is there a repository that has older versions of the jre, or do I have to build them?
[00:33] <captainjamie> What's so bad about chroot? (or should I just spend some more time on wikipedia?)
[00:34] <DevilSolution> hi
[00:34] <RevSpecies116> Nothing 'bad' at all about chroot or chmod - but you just have to be able to have root access to your tablet - and that means voiding your warrenty
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> wow,,, really? ubuntu can run on smartphone?
[00:34] <RevSpecies116> Yep, silit_gembuk :)
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> how?
[00:34] <captainjamie> oh that's fine, i'd void warranty to get ubuntu!
[00:34] <silit_gembuk> my phone is symbian, can it?
[00:35] <silit_gembuk> <<<<< now listening : Slaves of Pain ^^
[00:35] <RevSpecies116> Android only, silit_gembuk
[00:36] <silit_gembuk> ooo
[00:36] <EastDallas> OK, how about this...can someone tell me how to install an older version of the JRE.  I've tried multiple times, but still only have one choice when I sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:36] <silit_gembuk> how bout galaxy mini? it android too...
[00:36] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:36] <RevSpecies116> silit_gembuk: check www.xda-developers.com/ for your phone and ask there :)
[00:37] <captainjamie> So can you (or anyone) recommend a cheap but good tablet?
[00:37] <djiefo> How can I use Shockwave Player in firefox... Shockwave Player as no linux version
[00:37] <KM0201> djiefo: you can't
[00:37] <RevSpecies116> EastDallas: You either have to compile your own version that is the 'older' one, OR find a repo that has what you want from there\
[00:37] <silit_gembuk> all phone that listed in xdadeveloper can be install ubuntu????
[00:37] <KM0201> !shockwave | DJ_A|DJ_A
[00:38] <KM0201> oops... see above djiefo
[00:38] <RevSpecies116> silit_gembuk: Best ask that question on the XDA forum :)
[00:38] <EastDallas> OK...I've compiled older versions multiple times in /opt and still only get one option when I run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:38] <EastDallas> RevSpecies116:
[00:39] <EastDallas> RevSpecies116: one option of the sun jre
[00:39] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, EastDallas... The solution to that is beyond me then :(
[00:39] <djiefo> KM0201,  ok thx
[00:40] <EastDallas> there's usually over 1000 people in this channel, I can't believe no one here knows
[00:40] <EastDallas> thanks anyway RevSpecies116
[00:40] <RevSpecies116> EastDallas: No troubles - good hunting for a solution :)
[00:41] <djiefo> KM0201, i've seen this website and I dont understand the part it says to Add the following two lines to the end of the file... add to what?
[00:41] <solteiro2> Hi I need help to create a User in my ubuntu linux to let the folks at my house or using a password and tals with a friend ... I wonder why I created using the command sudo adduser
[00:41] <solteiro2> and when he went to boot error gave so much! pq this as I do?
[00:42] <KM0201> djiefo: when you run the previous command "gksudo gedit /etc/mozpluggerrc"  it will open up a text file... add them to that file
[00:42] <RevSpecies116> djiefo: The end of this file: /etc/mozpluggerrc
[00:42] <c2tarun> solteiro2, why did you used adduser? and I guess there is nothing like adduser, why didn't you use GUI?
[00:43]  * c2tarun hell there is also an adduser :P
[00:44] <c2tarun> solteiro2, but adduser is for adding user to a group and not for creating accoutns
[00:44] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:44] <ImDexter> can anyone help me with springs? I have compiled it, but, even bein GIT, I cannot connect to any online game
[00:44] <bazhang> Jon--, try in #compiz as well
[00:44] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: springRTS?
[00:45] <ImDexter> yes
[00:45] <RevSpecies116> Have you checked for a solution: http://springrts.com/phpbb/ <-- there, ImDexter
[00:45] <solteiro2> how do I can create accounts?!
[00:46] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: Ubuntu version?
[00:46] <Flannel> solteiro2: adduser, or Users and Groups in the gui.
[00:46] <djiefo> KM0201, http://paste.ubuntu.com/618675/
[00:46] <solteiro2> then what the correct command to create an account
[00:46] <KM0201> solars: menu/users and groups?
[00:46] <solteiro2> Linux solteiro2 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:46] <KM0201> djiefo: did the gksudo command, open a text file?
[00:46] <c2tarun> Flannel, adduser is for adding users to groups and not for creating accounts
[00:46] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: Unknown, but there is a GUI solution. Do you not have access to the Ubuntu interface?
[00:47] <KM0201> it should have
[00:47] <djiefo> KM0201,  no
[00:47] <solteiro2> yes
[00:47] <KM0201> djiefo: i don't see how it couldn't have
[00:47] <rww> c2tarun: it does both, actually
[00:47] <Flannel> c2tarun: It's for creating accounts and adding users to groups.
[00:47] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Another thing: ATi or nVidia card while running SpringRTS on Ubuntu?
[00:47] <ImDexter> nvidia
[00:47] <KM0201> djiefo: even if the file didn't exist, it would open a blank file
[00:47] <djiefo> look output above
[00:48] <KM0201> i see the output, but it seems it should stoill open the file.
[00:48] <c2tarun> rww, Flannel : then I guess man page is incomplete :(
[00:48] <bcj1> Are any of the Ubuntu media players actually able to get track info/album art properly?  Tried Sound Juicer and Rhythmbox, but neither understands my CD, even though it's on MusicBrainz
[00:48] <Flannel> c2tarun: See the first two examples in the manpage
[00:48] <djiefo> KM0201,  where its supposed to create a file?
[00:48] <c2tarun> rww but why do they need two commands useradd and adduser for same purpose?
[00:48] <rww> c2tarun: the /first line/ of the manpage is "adduser, addgroup - add a user or group to the system"
[00:48] <Flannel> c2tarun: useradd is low level, adduser is highlevel.
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Sorry for the questions, but they are important :) Nouveau or Proprietary driver for your graphics?
[00:49] <KM0201> djiefo: it should create that /etc/mozpluggercc.. or whatever it ws
[00:49] <c2tarun> Flannel, what do you mean by low and high level in commands?
[00:49] <solteiro2> humm
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: On your top panel, you should have the 'system' menu
[00:49] <KM0201> djiefo: dunno, maybre those instructions don't work w/ 11.04
[00:49] <Flannel> c2tarun: useradd does nothing for you except what you tell it (and only what you tell it), adduser is a bit more userfriendly.
[00:49] <RevSpecies116> And I believe then you goto Administration, solteiro2
[00:50] <RevSpecies116> And then I believe you go to 'Add users and groups'
[00:50] <Flannel> c2tarun: Even higher level would be the GUI version, because it abstracts away even more by default
[00:50] <solteiro2> yeah
[00:50] <solteiro2> ;D
[00:50] <solteiro2> Ty
[00:50] <solteiro2> RevSpecies116, ty
[00:51] <solteiro2> :D
[00:51] <RevSpecies116> solteiro2: No troubles :)
[00:51] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116, afraid dont understand the question, nvidia driver version 270.41.19
[00:52] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: No troubles, looks like you are running the driver provided by nVidia, and not the opensource driver :)
[00:52] <djiefo> KM0201,  whats /etc/ folder?
[00:52] <djiefo> KM0201,  i dont find it
[00:52] <RevSpecies116> OKies, the only thing I can suggest now, ImDexter is going to the springRTS forum and ask there
[00:53] <RevSpecies116> I know several dev's of springRTS do use ubuntu
, did you install it via synaptic? software sources?
[00:53] <brewster> how do i make it so that the side bar in natty hides when im not using it?
[00:53] <mageranger211> how do u download stuff in ubuntu?
[00:53] <mageranger211> this operating system sucks
[00:53] <bazhang> mageranger211, then dont use it
[00:53] <RevSpecies116> Command line, ImDexter  [that's my comfort zone when installing stuff]
[00:54] <crash0verride> lol what you talking about mage
[00:54] <bazhang> !software > mageranger211
, git? stable tar.gz?
[00:54] <crash0verride> installation is more simple than windows!;p
[00:54] <RevSpecies116> I added the spring repo then did: sudo aptitude install spring  [I use aptitude, dislike apt-get, and will be adding aptitude as an option when 12.04LTS comes around]
[00:54] <Jon--> Where can I find the settings for how many desktops I am using in Ubuntu?
[00:55] <edbian> Jon--: Are you using unity?
, care to share the spring repo? you mean ppa, right?
[00:55] <bazhang> Jon--, workspaces? or the cube thing for compiz
[00:55] <brewster> how do i make it so that the side bar in natty hides when im not using it?
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> Repo is kept up to date, ImDexter - so no need to compile your own springRTS
[00:55] <Jon--> edbian, Ubuntu 10.04 GNOME
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> ppa, yep
[00:55] <edbian> Jon--: Running compiz?
[00:55] <ImDexter> then im going to do the same, <RevSpecies116>
[00:55] <RevSpecies116> Let me go get the ppa I use (straight from the springRTS iki)
[00:55] <Jon--> edbian, Yes
[00:56] <edbian> Jon--: Do you have ccsm?  (This probably doesn't feel like progress but it is)
[00:56] <basilfaulty> hi ubuntu... I just stopped in to say how awesome you are.. that is all
[00:56] <rinkukokiri> anyone know of an app like audiogalaxy for ubuntu ?
[00:56] <Jon--> edbian, the settings manager? Yes. I am asking about DESKTOPS though, not workspaces. AFAIK compiz only changes # of workspaces.
, then I should get rid of my manually compiled spring, right?
[00:57] <edbian> Jon--: ... I'm not sure I know the difference.  What do you mean then?
[00:57] <brewster> rinkukokiri: google osalt
[00:57] <RevSpecies116> Yep, ImDexter
[00:57] <ImDexter> fine <RevSpecies116>, im doing it your way
[00:57] <brewster> stands for open source alternative
[00:57] <Jon--> edbian, Let me explain briefly then, the issue I am having is:
[00:57] <Jon--> I changed my settings back to default in Compiz and now I have multiple workspaces but they are all considered to be on the same desktop (ie from wmctrl -l). I use scripts that rely on moving open applications between workspaces, and they are now broken. Any ideas?
[00:57] <RevSpecies116> :) ImDexter :)
[00:58] <edbian> Jon--: aaaa, very interesting.  I've often wondered about this.
, i have already compiled it twice, to get the same error
[00:58] <Jon--> Someone stated in #compiz : "Jon--: Compiz only uses one desktop", Then asked "Jon--: What do you have set for desktop size in general options?"
[00:58] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I'll get you the repo - just finding it
[00:58] <RevSpecies116> :)
[00:58] <bazhang> !equivalents > rinkukokiri
[00:59] <RevSpecies116> https://launchpad.net/~spring <--the launchpad page for springRTS [not the repo/ppa] ImDexter
[00:59] <edbian> Jon--: Let me tell you everything I know.  Workspace and Desktop are interchangeable terms.  Gnome has workspaces.  When they wrote compiz they decided (for some reason) to re-implement the workspaces on top of gnome.  They tell gnome there is one and handle things from there.  That is why the gnome-applet can't alter the number of workspaces while compiz is running and why you need to use ccsm to do it.
[00:59] <rinkukokiri> neither message helps
[00:59] <brewster> anyone know how to make the sidebar in unity autohide?
[00:59] <rinkukokiri> thanks though
[01:00] <bazhang> rinkukokiri, there may not be one then
[01:00] <edbian> Jon--: Having said this.  I'm not sure how to get some random 3rd party app to see that there really are e.g. 4 desktops when using compiz.  They will see one.  The gnome-panel applet is a special case I think that the compiz developers took into account?  I'm guessing at this point
[01:00] <Jon--> edbian, they used to see them as unique
[01:00] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:spring/ppa
[01:00] <edbian> Jon--: 'They'  being what?
[01:01] <Jon--> wmctrl -l listed windows on different workspaces as having their different (and proper) desktop ids
[01:01] <Jon--> It's when I went into my settings and changed my Appearance settings that it started to fail on me again
, wait i am still deleting
[01:02] <DevilSolution> using a high definition monitor and got this error trying to install an eclipse package with -f too
[01:02] <DevilSolution> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
[01:02] <DevilSolution> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:02] <Jon--> Is it possible to have certain compiz plugins working if compiz isn't running? I'd think not.. I don't think I've suddenly enabled it and it wasn't before, pretty sure I've had it on this whole time
[01:02] <RevSpecies116> No troubles, ImDexter  :)
[01:02] <edbian> Jon--: What appearance setting did you change?
[01:02] <bazhang> DevilSolution, pastebin the whole error please
[01:02] <DevilSolution> k
[01:03] <Jon--> edbian, system->preferences->appearance-> visual effects
[01:03] <edbian> Jon--: Oh you turned them on.  In answer to your question.  You cannot have some plugins on without having compiz-core on.
[01:03] <edbian> Jon--: Perhaps wmctrl is controlling the wrong window manager?
[01:04] <Jon--> But some you can?
[01:04] <DevilSolution> http://pastebin.com/fTSxQ0Fs
[01:04] <edbian> Jon--: No.  If any compiz plugin is on then compiz as a whole must be running.
[01:04] <boodieman> brewster - http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[01:04] <Jon--> edbian, No, it lists the correct windows, just everything is -1 if it has no physical window (like panel edges) or 0. Nothing else.
[01:04] <edbian> Jon--: There is compiz and there is metacity (up until now we called this 'gnome')  metacity is the actual name of the window manager in gnome
[01:05] <Jon--> It used to be zero indexed through all my workspaces
, I have deleted every spring file found, including my manual compilation, and I have added those 2 ppa lines to my software sources
[01:05] <bazhang> DevilSolution, why the -f ? was there some issue earlier?
[01:06] <bazhang> ImDexter, so sudo apt-get update , then install the package
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: wmctrl -d   ?
[01:06] <Jon--> edbian, just 0  * DG: 9562x768  VP: 4098,0  WA: 0,28 1366x716  N/A
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: Mine (on a Debian squeeze system) reports one workspace that is 5120 pixels wide I think
[01:06] <edbian> Jon--: We have similar output.  What (actually) are you trying to do?
[01:06] <DevilSolution> bazhang, eclipse failed to install because it said it needed this package
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: if you open a terminal and type   sudo apt-add-repository ppa:spring/ppa
[01:07] <Jon--> edbian, Use wmctrl -R to move a window to my current workspace. Used to work. Now it fails (as everything is on 0)
[01:07] <bazhang> DevilSolution, try purging that package and reinstalling? it seems to be corrupted if that error message is any indication
[01:07] <edbian> Jon--: I see.  Hang on.
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: It will add the repo to your sources with out you haveint to edit it, and will get to gpg's too
[01:07] <RevSpecies116> havint = having
[01:08] <notNicolas> Hi everyone. I want to install Ubuntu on a notebook PC currently running windows. When I download Ubuntu from the website, it always downloads the desktop version. Is this version appropriate for notebook PCs?
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: requesting key 8670A035 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: key 8670A035: "Launchpad PPA for Spring developers" not changed
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[01:08] <ImDexter> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[01:08] <edbian> Jon--: There must be some way because of the right click menu on the titlebar of an app
[01:08] <bazhang> notNicolas, sure, its one size fits all now
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> notNicolas: it works fine, but netbook version is more adapted to smaller screens
[01:08] <ImDexter> for your command, <RevSpecies116
[01:08] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: the repo is install correctly, then :)
[01:08] <bazhang> DaGeek247_, netbook version is gone.
[01:08] <Jon--> edbian, Agreed.
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> !
[01:08] <DaGeek247_> omgosh!
[01:09] <Jon--> edbian, The only CLI way of doing it that I know o
[01:09] <bazhang> !une > DaGeek247_
[01:09] <Jon--> of is wmctrl*
[01:09] <boodieman> notNicola - Now I think it its Desktop vs Server
[01:09] <DaGeek247_> o
[01:09] <RevSpecies116> Then, as long as you have sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade, you can then do sudo apt-get install spring
[01:09] <DaGeek247_> wow,
[01:10] <notNicolas> Sooo do I get desktop?
[01:10] <boodieman> notNicolas yes
[01:10] <alexCoder> someone uses xubuntu?
[01:10] <notNicolas> Alright then. Thank you.
[01:10] <bazhang> alexCoder, whats the question
[01:10] <paulharrghis> what excuse do I give my friends so I can leave and go play with Ubuntu?
[01:10] <notNicolas> is 64 bit stable?
[01:11] <bazhang> notNicolas, yes
[01:11] <rww> notNicolas: yes
[01:11] <paulharrghis> notNicolas : very
[01:11] <bazhang> paulharrghis, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:11] <notNicolas> why is 32 recommended?
[01:11] <boodieman> notNicolas, I still use the 32bit version
[01:11] <alexCoder> i have a problem D:
[01:11] <rww> notNicolas: because 64-bit computers can run 32-bit Ubuntu, but not the other way around
[01:11] <alexCoder> with my keyboard
[01:11] <RevSpecies116> Also, here: http://springrts.com/wiki/Ubuntu_install ImDexter :)
, im sorry, but what do i have to do after apt get upgrade?
[01:11] <edbian> Jon--: Here's some stuff.  Apparently compiz uses viewports which I guess is different from desktops / workspaces.  http://superuser.com/questions/264281/wmctrl-says-i-have-one-workspace-when-i-actually-have-four
[01:11] <notNicolas> Alright. Thanks.
mean update
[01:11] <alexCoder> why my keyboard changes the configuration all time?
[01:12] <boodieman> notNicolas, you only really need 64bit if you have more than 4GB of RAM
[01:12] <bazhang> alexCoder, no idea, without more info
[01:12] <alexCoder> but then i press Ctrl + Esc and everything is ok
[01:12] <Jon--> edbian, Well, clearly there IS some way of having it working, as I did at one point WITH Compiz, until I modified that setting
[01:12] <paulharrghis> boodieman : I thought it was 3gb
[01:12] <notNicolas> I have 2 lol
[01:12] <notNicolas> but my computer is running 64 bit windodws 7
[01:12] <RevSpecies116> just this, ImDexter: sudo apt-get install spring spring-maps-default
[01:12] <notNicolas> *Windows 7
[01:12] <RevSpecies116> :)
[01:12] <bazhang> paulharrghis, more than 4
[01:13] <boodieman> notNicolas, so is mine
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--: Did you switch the settings in system -> preferences -> apperances from 'None' to 'Extra'  or.... ?
[01:13] <Jon--> edbian, none to Normal
[01:13] <RevSpecies116> But not sure how much that download size is, ImDexter
[01:13] <Jon--> Compiz was running before though, I was using several of the plugins ?
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--:  If it was on 'none' compiz was not on.  Which explains why it was working.
[01:13] <bazhang> alexCoder, here and not PM please
[01:13] <edbian> Jon--: What plugins were you running?
[01:14] <boodieman> notNicolas, if you don't have more than 4GB of RAM you can use either, if you have more you should use 64bit or you won't see all of it
[01:14] <alexCoder> sorry haha
[01:14] <mindwarp> Hi, I have a problem with jsMath. I have installed ttf-jsmath, the latest version (in natty) which supposedly includes all the extra fonts. However it does not include jsMath-cmmib10.ttf -- I downloaded and installed that one manually. I followed the instructions to install new fonts, running mkfontscale, mkfontdir, fc-cache, etc. -- however that font is still not recognized either in firefox or chromium. The font is in the same directory as the other
[01:14] <Jon--> Commands, Viewpoint switcher, desktop wall
[01:14] <alexCoder> who uses Xubuntu 11.04?
[01:14] <notNicolas> Ok, thanks for your help!
[01:14] <RevSpecies116> alexCoder: You need the xbuntu channel
[01:14] <bazhang> !pae
[01:14] <bazhang> boodieman, ^
[01:15] <edbian> Jon--: Can you replicate this?  I'd like to see it set to None while at the same time you use desktop wall.  (then I'd like to see ps -e)
[01:15] <RevSpecies116> alexCoder: #xubuntu
[01:15] <Jon--> edbian, one moment please
[01:15] <alexCoder> there's nobody
[01:15] <edbian> Jon--: sur
[01:15] <zanzee> im having a really weird issue, whenever a client pc sends anything via samba my server locks hard. Is this a know issue?
[01:15] <paulharrghis> besides RAM availability, surely there must be an added benefit of running x86_64 on compatible CPUs, no?
[01:16] <RevSpecies116> alex, if you were running Ubuntu pure, I'm sure we could help
[01:16] <RevSpecies116> But this is the Ubuntu channel, and Xubuntu is a lot different than Ubuntu
[01:16] <mrdeb> is it better to have a separate graphics card or integrated with linux
[01:16] <edbian> paulharrghis: It's more efficient I'm told.
[01:16] <edbian> mrdeb: A separate card almost always is a more powerful chipset
[01:16] <zanzee> @Rev separate only for games and hq video
[01:17] <Jon--> edbian, this is not quite right
[01:17] <Guest65324> greetings  :)
[01:17] <w30> what's #ubuntu-unregged? Is there a #ubuntu-regged?
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> zanzee: Also getting audio to work
[01:17] <edbian> Jon--: please explain
[01:17] <KM0201> !register | w30
[01:17] <zanzee> audio has nothing to do with an external
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> When we say goto system->preferences->sound
[01:17] <boodieman> pae is auto installed if needed on 11.04
[01:17] <RevSpecies116> The xubuntu user goes: CAN'T
[01:17] <zanzee> lots of onboard have hdmi
[01:17] <KM0201> w30: you get kicked there cuz you're not a registered nick, and #ubuntu uses that to prevent problems.
[01:17] <Jon--> my script works again now but the little thing I get when I change workspaces it NOT the same, it's much smaller, probably the Ubuntu default. I'm quite sure I was running compiz window wall before, it looked much nicer.
[01:18] <Jon--> when I changed workspaces via a shortcut with compiz it doesn't show me what workspace I am changing to either, it used to
[01:18] <Jon--> here's my ps -e output http://pastebin.com/96PBbf0a
[01:18] <mrdeb> edbian: so it's better?
[01:18] <edbian> mrdeb: External cards are almost always better
[01:18] <mrdeb> what about power strain on the system
[01:18] <Guest65324> I have a SATA laptop hard drive and it's been put on a usb sled. I tried to mount the hard drive and got an initial complaint about the disk being mounted in Windows already.....   Is there a way for me to fix the "dirty dismount" status of the hard drive so that I can mount this hard drive from within ubuntu?
[01:18] <paulharrghis> is emerald strictly a window decorator?
[01:19] <edbian> Jon--: ps -e lists all the processes running right now.  compiz is not running in this ps -e
[01:19] <RevSpecies116> zanzee, how to get the sound prefs up in a GUI in xubutu?
[01:19]  * Guest65324 seems to remember something about an "fsck" command but  only vaguely
[01:19] <RevSpecies116> zanzee, how to get the sound prefs up in a GUI in xubutu?
[01:19] <edbian> Jon--: But you're reporting the desktop changing animation is not working.  I would be very much interested to see the switch set to None, compiz not running, and desktop wall working.
[01:19] <Jon--> edbian, Then why are my commands and viewpoint switching still working, and why did I have Compiz's Desktop Wall before, with all my settings working, and now I do not?
[01:19] <zanzee> i haven't used xfs much
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: You can switch desktops with or without compiz.
[01:20] <zanzee> but make sure your sound card isn't muted, a lot are by default after a freash install
[01:20] <RevSpecies116> There IS a huge difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu from a support perspective
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: The commands are working becuase compiz is not running
[01:20] <RevSpecies116> No two ways about that, zanzee
[01:20] <Jon--> I meant that Compiz command plugin and viewpoint switcher plugin are running
[01:20] <edbian> Jon--: I believe you were mistaken before.  I don't think the wmctrl command work while compiz is running.
[01:20] <mrdeb> why would you get an input output error when copying a cd
[01:21] <mrdeb> it's an audio cd
[01:21] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Everything running smoothly thus far?
[01:21] <Jon--> edbian, I am pretty damn sure that I had the fancy compiz desktop wall WITH wmctrl working...
[01:21] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116, im reloading sources
[01:21] <RevSpecies116> OKies :)
[01:22] <zanzee> you can check your sound mixer from the command line
[01:22] <zanzee> just make sure its not muted
[01:22] <RevSpecies116> terminal is NOT an option
[01:22] <zanzee> been awhile
[01:22] <zanzee> my phone runs xubuntu
[01:22] <zanzee> but I haven't messed with it too much
[01:22] <edbian> Jon--: I don't want to offend you.  It's just what I think is most likely.  If you can replicate that behavior (wmctrl working with compiz running) I will be persuaded.  I don'think it is possible to get them to work so I don't know how to help you get them working together.
[01:22] <RevSpecies116> My phone runs Ubuntu [Nexus 1]
[01:23] <zanzee> I gave my nexus 1 to my wife and got an atrix
[01:23] <mrdeb> why would you get an input output error when copying a cd
[01:23] <Jon--> edbian, You may be right. Thanks for the help
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: Is it possible that compiz was running, then something caused compiz to crash (not hard).  In this case the system would replace the now crashed compiz with metacity and the commands would work.  Besides a flicker on the screen you would not notice.
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: You're welcome.
[01:23] <edbian> Jon--: Here is a workaround I found:  http://sfyang-en.blogspot.com/2008/02/rotate-cube-in-compiz-with-wmctrl.html
[01:24] <Guest65324> I am not opposed to actually formatting the hard drive.... I am wondering if using a live cd would make accomplishing my task any easier
[01:24] <edbian> Jon--: And this: http://www.bgevolution.com/blog/wmctrl-recap-placing-windows-automatically-on-boot-compiz-viewports/
[01:24] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Take a look at gparted livecd
[01:24] <KM0201> Guest65324: what are you trying to do?
[01:25] <Terabyte> hi, i'm trying to share folders (NTFS mounted in /etc/fstab) in 11.04 and it keeps telling me that i don't own them, so i can't share them. any ideas?
[01:25] <Terabyte> specifically i get this error, but this thread is old and restarting does nothing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825965
[01:25] <zanzee> Terabyte, open a terminal and run gksu nautulus
[01:26] <Guest65324> KM0201,  I took an 80 GB SATA laptop hard drive and put it on a USB sled, with the intention of formatting it and mounting it as a new storage volume
[01:26] <Guest65324> obviously it still has an ntfs operating system on it
[01:26] <joseph_> Hi all
[01:26] <zanzee> set the rights via nautilus
[01:26] <KM0201> Guest65324: ok... that really shouldn't be an issue, ubuntu can mount ntfs pretty easily.
[01:26] <Tros> Is there a way to force a resolution on a secondary monitor (try a television), or do I still have to drop into xorg.conf for that?
[01:26] <joseph_> Iḿ using ylmf OS but some of it still in chinese
[01:27] <Guest65324> KM0201,  I am wondering if it's possible to either format the drive from the normal running kernel or to  somehow "clean" its  status  thus making it mountable
[01:27] <Jon--> edbian, ty
[01:27] <KM0201> Guest65324: it should mount w/o being formatted to be truthful...
[01:27] <Guest65324> KM0201,  agreed, ntfs is normally not an issue, but I am getting a complaint about the drive already being mounted
[01:27] <Terabyte> zanzee gksu nautilus has no effect
[01:27] <KM0201> hmm
[01:27] <nraic> I'm  trying to compile jpcap because there is not 64 bit package for it. The make ends with error sayinf jni.h is missing. This should be found in the java-6-sun include folder.
[01:28] <nraic> For some reason I don't have a include folder in side my java-6sun
[01:28] <Guest65324>  this makes me feel like the machine was probably improperly shit down the last time the laptop was shut off.... which was probably a year ago
[01:28] <Guest65324> shi* = shut
[01:28] <Guest65324> pardon me
[01:28] <Guest65324> :)
[01:28] <Terabyte> nautulus*
[01:28] <KM0201> possible.
[01:28] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Do those laptop drives use the silly jumpers like the old PATA drives did?
[01:29] <notNicolas> Does creating a usb installation USB totally crap out everything else on the USB for whatever reason?
[01:29] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: sata shouldn't...
[01:29] <notNicolas> uh that made no sense
[01:29] <ImDexter> http://pastebin.com/Qbixy3jg <RevSpecies116>, I had to drop the second part
[01:29] <notNicolas> Does creating a usb installation of Ubuntu totally crap out everything else on the usb for whatever reason
[01:30] <KM0201> notNicolas: usually, it will ask to format the USB... i've had mixed resulst when i don't format the USB.
[01:30] <Guest65324> RevSpecies116,  thats a negative on the jumpers. nope It was an internal SATA hard disk for a laptop, and I suspect that it's native machine was improperly dismounted. leaving me with a sata hard drive attached to a usb sled
[01:30] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: That is looking good
[01:30] <ArexBawrin> How can I find the source code (not the executable) of a program I installed via synaptic?
, at last....
[01:30] <ImDexter> i get something to work as it should
[01:31] <Guest65324> RevSpecies116,  what i just typed makes no sense but i think you can grasp what i meant by that
[01:31] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: have you tried to force unmount it?
[01:31] <Guest65324> KM0201,  no i havent
[01:31] <Guest65324> how would i go about that?
[01:31] <RevSpecies116> Guest65324: Yep - jumpers are not the issue ;)
[01:31] <ImDexter> http://pastebin.com/z1D8XDqP whole thing <RevSpecies116>
[01:32] <zanzee> anyone have samba hard locking their system when you try to transfer sometihng from a client machine?
[01:32] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: You are not out of the woods yet, now it is time to get a few MOD's/games and maps
[01:32]  * Guest65324 seems to remember something about fsck  being able to clean a dirty dismounted  ntfs drive
[01:32] <ImDexter> dexter@hihihi100-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install spring-maps-default
[01:32] <ImDexter> Reading package lists... Done
[01:32] <ImDexter> Building dependency tree
[01:32] <ImDexter> Reading state information... Done
[01:32] <ImDexter> E: Unable to locate package spring-maps-default
[01:32] <FloodBot1> ImDexter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <RevSpecies116> BA as the MOD and DSD as the map will get you some play time on springlobby ;)
[01:32] <Guest65324> I suppose I could just  boot to a live cd and format the thing
[01:33] <Guest65324> or i might ust have the same exact problem seeing the drive from the live disc as well
, what do I do about that pasted springs-maps default?
[01:33] <mrdeb> is 64 bit 10.04 faster than 32bit one
[01:33] <KM0201> mrdeb: depends
[01:33] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: Now, you should find springlobby in your games menu
[01:33] <Guest65324> I wonder if connecting the drive to a computer which is running windows would help
[01:33] <KM0201> Guest65324: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[01:33] <Guest65324> maybe the neighbor runs windows
[01:33] <rww> mrdeb: not for most users
[01:34] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I think they renamed it to just spring-maps
[01:34] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks I am reading now
[01:34] <RevSpecies116> so drop the -default from the command
[01:34] <KM0201> Guest65324: look at the manually mounting/unmounting section.
[01:34] <ImDexter> <RevSpecies116 no difference
[01:35] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks
[01:35] <KM0201> Guest65324: if it already has a mount point, you don't need to make one (i'm assuming it does)
[01:35] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: give this next command a try: sudo apt-get install libtorrent-rasterbar-dbg spring-maps-deltasiege spring-map spring-mods-kernelpanic spring-mod spring-javaai
[01:36] <Guest65324> would the output of dmesg help you to help me in any way KM0201 ?
[01:36] <RevSpecies116> But again, ImDexter I don't know how much that will download - I think just deltaseige map is 25MB on its own
[01:36] <Guest65324> i see all kinds of information in there about the drive
[01:36] <KM0201> me?  no.. but it might someone else
[01:36] <ImDexter> http://imagebin.org/156797, <RevSpecies116>
[01:36] <Guest65324> KM0201,  :) okay
[01:36] <KM0201> Guest65324: you can pastebin it and i'll look at it, but no promises
[01:36] <Tros> Okay. I'm trying to google it now. What replaced X11 in 11.04?
[01:36] <Guest65324> KM0201,  thanks ;]
[01:37] <mollfe> hola
[01:37] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: You are on Ubuntu 10.04+?
[01:37] <ImDexter> 11.04
[01:37] <RevSpecies116> 11.04 should be way up to date :(
[01:37] <srm> Tros, replaced? It's still x.org.
, the check for updates option in springlobby doesnt work either
[01:38] <Tros> I thought there was some magical progression from x11.
 i can see the players, not join them
[01:38] <Guest65324> I see what the problem is I think
[01:39] <Guest65324> the windows instance on this drive is "hibernated"
[01:39] <srm> Tros, hehe, not that I'm aware of. but here's something interesting around the corner: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/
[01:39] <mollfe> hello
[01:39] <Guest65324> this is a new one for me
[01:39] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: See if you can get a few more helpful hints from the folks in the springlobby
[01:39] <RevSpecies116> I'm checking the forum for 11.04, but no luck thus far
[01:39] <srm> Tros, you may be referring to the unity desktop, which works as Compiz Plugin and replaces the classic gnome-desktop
, apply icons dont work, I can only close the window withpout changing or saving anything
[01:40] <Tros> srm: Yeah! I thought Ubuntu was pushing for some serious progress! Shoot :[
[01:41] <rozander1> hey guys
[01:41] <rozander1> can someone please help me install a driver from the file on a Cd..would be much apprevioated
[01:41] <rozander1> appreciated
[01:42] <Tros> srm: I also though way back, there was "no more xorg.conf" to fix monitors! And that's pretty awesome! But now I can't figure out how to force a resolution or overscan compensate if I dont' have NVidia's drivers (which I cannot.)
[01:42] <srm> rozander1, more details needed. what driver, why do you need to install it and what does "from the file on a cd" mean.
[01:42] <eloystebam> spanish?
[01:42] <eloystebam> spanish?
[01:42] <srm> Tros, I had big troubles with the proprietary Nvidia driver and TwinView, this is just broken. I've moved to xrandr and nuvou and I'm pretty happy.
[01:43] <rozander1> srm..its a wireless card driver and is unsupported by unbuntu ouit of the box...however the cd has a linux file on their to install the driver and i need it becouse i want the internet without wires heh
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: does spring run with a terminal command of just : spring
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> ?
[01:43] <srm> rozander1, did your installation of Ubuntu finished successfuly?
[01:43] <Jon--> How do I restart my window manager (metacity, not compiz), WITHOUT closing any open applications? Is this possible?
[01:43] <rozander1> lol yeh ive had ubuntu since like 8.1 or something
[01:44] <rozander1> just not used to installing drivers from a cd...usualy ubuntus pretty much plug and play
[01:44] <Jon--> I'm right clicking in open-office on workspace 2 and it's moving me to workspace 1 when I do..  Those sons of a bitch needs to fuck them selves!!
[01:48] <KM0201> joseph_: not here
[01:48] <KM0201> ..
[01:48] <Guest65324> KM0201,  that's what I'm about to determine
[01:48] <KM0201> lol
[01:48] <boxbeatsy> rozander1: i'm listing all current processes running by executing 'ps ax', but how do i show the user that is running all those processes?
[01:48] <RevSpecies116> ImDexter: I also would have no idea how to get rid of the old entry :(
[01:48] <rozander1> are you trying to view the users on a network
[01:49] <Guest65324> KM0201,  and it sure did work
[01:49] <Guest65324> :)
[01:49] <joseph_> What happened?
[01:49]  * Guest65324 was not aware a user could remove a huber file
[01:49] <KM0201> Guest65324: great... terminal is weird like that, it'll often tell you what you have to do.
[01:49] <boxbeatsy> rozander1: mm i don't think so.  im just trying to see which user on my computer is running mysql
[01:49] <bazhang> joseph_, no cursing, watch the attitude
[01:49] <srm> rozander1, is that the output from lspci?
[01:49] <w30> ps aux
[01:49] <Guest65324> huber=hiber file
[01:50] <Guest65324> as in hibernation file
[01:50] <KM0201> yup
[01:50] <rozander1> srm no thats the model number from the cd supplied
[01:50] <Guest65324> coolness, well I'm off to find some other problem to fret about thanks again
[01:50] <w30> boxbeatsy, ps aux
[01:50] <Guest65324> :)
[01:50] <rozander1> ya ps aux
[01:50] <srm> rozander1, check out what lspci has to say. I found "The chipset of EW-7612pin is RTL8191SE" here "http://newsgroupstats.info/article/forums.novell.com/opensuse.org.help.network-internet.wireless/15496/Edimax-wiFi-cards.html"
[01:50] <joseph_> I was just stating that this ***** Ylmf OS still has chinese in it!
[01:50] <srm> rozander1, can't be of any more help. I've just fiddled with the BCM firmware
[01:50] <boxbeatsy> ah, thanks!
[01:51] <bazhang> joseph_, stop it. thats not supported here. try their support.
[01:51] <rozander1> srm alreet thanks..although this should be the right driver...theirs a makefile ect
[01:51] <joseph_> cant fint it, itś based on ubunto
[01:51] <rozander1> should i not just like install it
[01:52] <RevSpecies116> joseph_: Xubuntu is also based on Ubuntu, but it is not supported here
[01:52] <srm> rozander1, if there's no manual on how to install it and you don't know how to install it....how would you install it? ^^
[01:52] <bazhang> joseph_, it's supposed to be CHinese. take it elsewhere as it's NOT supported.
[01:52] <bazhang> RevSpecies116, sure it is.
[01:52] <srm> rozander1, these may be kernel modules to be compiled and added to the bootup scripts
[01:52] <rozander1> haha srm is their not a standard procedure...like cd to directory and do something to the makefule..
[01:52] <joseph_> ok, then let me ask you this, what is the best Linux to use for beginners?
[01:52] <rozander1> their is also a .tar.gx
[01:53] <bazhang> joseph_, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> joseph_: define beginner
[01:53] <rozander1>  i mean .tar.gz
[01:53] <srm> rozander1, no, usually you compile kernel modules and add them to the appropriate scripts to be loaded at boot time
[01:53] <rozander1> hmm then would it be easier to use ndiswrapper maybe ?
[01:53] <srm> rozander1, no idea. I'm not that strong with this hardware stuff.
[01:53] <rozander1> hm i do have a manual
[01:54] <rozander1> should i pm it you and see if you can make anymore of it than i can
[01:54] <joseph_> someone that doesn know how to install anything with terminal or even use the terminal.
[01:54] <RevSpecies116> bazhang: The words were too defined, I ment to say: Some Xubuntu methodologies are not supported here: like the lack of ability to follow the instructions to goto System->Preferences->sound, when Xubuntu doesn't have that option ;)
[01:54] <srm> yeah, why rozander1
[01:55] <KM0201> joseph_: ubuntu is fine for beginners, it has a lot of GUI tools, and requires little command line, unless you just want to use it.
[01:55] <joseph_> is there a version thatś simalar to XP?
[01:55] <joseph_> window?
[01:55] <bazhang> joseph_, no
[01:55] <RevSpecies116> joseph_: Best to stick to windows if you want XP
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> joseph_: making something look like windows but not work like windows is more confusing than something new
[01:56] <KM0201> exactly joseph_ if you want windows. ... nobody does windows better than Microsoft
[01:56] <joseph_> Ylmf, looks just like it, if it wasn for the chinese! it would be great
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> KM0201: my contractor does
[01:56] <KM0201> joseph_: looking like it, and acting like it.... are very different
[01:56] <KM0201> aeon-ltd: ;)  touche'
[01:56] <bazhang> thats neither here nor there joseph_ it's not supported here, let's move on.
[01:57] <zanzee> I need some help with samba it keeps locking my home server hard
[01:57] <joseph_> thatś true and I can't afford windows. so I guess ubuntu would be the best.
[01:58] <ExtractBeliefs> heh
[01:58] <joseph_> now ubuntu has several distros, which is the best? I don't like the applications on the top of my screen, any with the menu on left corner?
[01:59] <bazhang> there is not a best joseph_ try which one you like and use it.
[01:59] <zanzee> you can change the panels to your liking
[01:59] <bazhang> zanzee, not with unity, at least not yet
[01:59] <zanzee> I've switched back to classic myself, the new interface is silly at best
[01:59] <zanzee> unity just annoyes me
[02:00] <RevSpecies116> I love the idea of Unity :)
[02:00] <zanzee> unity is great for my grama
[02:00] <intx> i can't get AMDOverdrivectrl to compile: CAppProfilePanel.cpp:(.text+0x1c4a): undefined reference to `std::_List_node_base::_M_unhook()', anyone know why?
[02:00] <joseph_> ok thank you.
[02:00] <zanzee> unity for my tablet is awsome
[02:01] <joseph_> bye and sorry for the cursing, even though it was funny. ha
[02:01] <zanzee> but not a server / desktop
[02:01] <srm> yeah, a lot to improve on unity, but a cool step in the right direction.
[02:02] <zanzee> im more than happy with stock gdm
[02:02] <RevSpecies116> I'm sure Unity will be got right by 12.04LTS\
[02:02] <zanzee> haha
[02:02] <RevSpecies116> I think by 14.04LTS Weyland will be in
[02:03] <zanzee> gnome 4 is pretty wicked
[02:03] <smokeycastle> So long and thanks for all the fish
[02:03] <smokeycastle> So sad that it should come to this
[02:03] <smokeycastle> We tried to warn you all but oh dear!
[02:03] <smokeycastle> You may not share our intellect
[02:03] <smokeycastle> Which might explain your disrespect
[02:03] <FloodBot1> smokeycastle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <smokeycastle> For all the natural wonders that
[02:03] <smokeycastle> grow around you
[02:03] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: Nice film, but the somg not required - HHGTTG
[02:04] <RevSpecies116> somg = song
[02:04] <smokeycastle> zomg?
[02:04] <bazhang> !ot > smokeycastle
[02:04] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[02:04] <smokeycastle> If I had just one last wish
[02:04] <smokeycastle> I would like a tasty fish
[02:04] <bazhang> smokeycastle, stop it
[02:04] <smokeycastle> ok
[02:05] <MrBushido> is there a single source for port names or are they defined at the descretion of the app? e.g. some apps lets you define a port as "ssh" and it resolves it to port 22. Is there a way to reconfigure this so that ssh refers to port 45432 or whatver?
[02:06] <smokeycastle> question, if you ssh to a computer, then ssh from that computer to another computer, then rip a website for offline viewing is that next to nearly impossible to trace?
[02:06] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: No
[02:06] <The_Letter_M> lol
[02:07] <srm> MrBushido, you have to give a parameter to the sshd or your ssh client to use another port. Names are just made-up things.
[02:07] <smokeycastle> how do you track something like that?
[02:07] <smokeycastle> logs on the servers?
[02:07] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: ok, since you ( i assume) own both these computers it would trace to a location/area where you live
[02:08] <smokeycastle> yes but they would think it was ze other pc right?
[02:08] <th0r> MrBushido: the first 1024 I think are assigned. There are websites with the list of assigned port numbers. But to answer your question, yes, you can change the port ssh listens on
[02:08] <RevSpecies116> smokeycastle: Unfortunatly your query is BEYOND how this channel can help you. Sorry...
[02:08] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: you use public proxies available in other countries, then it traces back there a'ight
[02:08] <srm> The ports are only assigned by convention/standard.
[02:08] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: but you own these to do ssh? ........
[02:08] <smokeycastle> i currently own two linux boxes.
[02:08] <smokeycastle> I have no real desire to do it im just trying to understand how ssh works
[02:09] <bazhang> smokeycastle, actual ubuntu support question?
[02:09] <RevSpecies116> Perhaps there is a channel dedicated to help with ssh, smokeycastle
[02:09] <aeon-ltd> smokeycastle: for ssh? therefore you must own the building/house they are in - that info can be used
[02:09] <MrBushido> srm: yah, i get that much. but say when i use iptables i can configure it to accept incoming connections from ssh with "-p tcp --dport ssh", but ssh is assumed to be 22 by iptables
[02:09] <srm> MrBushido, right. If you use another port for your sshd you'd have to specify the port directly in the rule
[02:09] <smokeycastle> wait this is the ubuntu irc channel?
[02:10] <aeon-ltd> yes
[02:10] <bazhang> yes smokeycastle
[02:10] <rewt> MrBushido: /etc/services
[02:10] <duckspeaker> lulz
[02:10] <smokeycastle> oh sorry, i thought this was the #linux on irc.rizon.net
[02:10] <srm> MrBushido, iptables would resolve 'ssh' to the standard port 22 (as pointed out by t0h and rewt)
[02:10] <duckspeaker> i'm picturing smokeycastle walking back slowly
[02:10] <MrBushido> srm: ok, just wondered if it was possible to name the port rather than use a number. Makes it easier to read at a later date once the iptables config is a little more messy ^_^
[02:10] <smokeycastle> using irc in bash is confusing
[02:11] <srm> rewt, are you saying that iptables would use /etc/services to resolve the name? thought that is hardcoded in the app
[02:11] <bazhang> smokeycastle, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[02:11] <MrBushido> rewt: oh cool
[02:11] <rewt> srm, i'm pretty sure everything uses /etc/services to resolve port names to numbers
[02:11] <srm> rewt, coo. I thought of it always as just a quick reference for personal pleasure
[02:12] <srm> *cool
[02:12] <MrBushido> it would make sense, especially when apps can be dependant on others
[02:12] <kermit> is something deleting /tmp/* at boot?  if so, what?
[02:12] <rewt> /etc/services is to service names as /etc/hosts is to host names and /etc/networks is to network names
[02:12] <srm> good to know!
[02:13] <MrBushido> thanks rewt & srm! back to configing my fileserver ^_^
[02:13] <imadper> Hi everyone! I bought a HP-probook-4230s, but it's Ralink 3592 couldn't work well in ubuntu, what should I do?
[02:14] <srm> imadper, tell us what "couldn't work well" means and what a "Ralink 35922" is
[02:14] <rewt> 802.11n?
[02:14] <imadper> re
[02:14] <imadper> rewt: yeah
[02:15] <KM0201> i was gonna suggest "learn to ask a question" but i'd guess thats not helpful.. :)
[02:15] <imadper> srm: I think it's a 802.11n
[02:15] <delinquentme> We also recommend that you add the directory containing the elastic-mapreduce tool to your PATH.
[02:15] <delinquentme> how does one do this?
[02:15] <KM0201> imadper: how do you know its a ralink 3592?
[02:15] <delinquentme> ( im assuming this is an ubuntu-specific operation)
[02:16] <imadper> srm: when i use "ifconfig", i can find wlan0, but can not find single
[02:16] <srm> delinquentme, that's a bash/shell specific operation. Do you know what the PATH environment variable is?
[02:16] <imadper> KM0201: from my windows
[02:16] <KM0201> imadper: windows descriptions usually are quite a bit different from linux.
[02:16] <srm> delinquentme, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[02:17] <imadper> KM0201: I have see the chip~
[02:17] <delinquentme> smr so i think its a bunch of short hands for programs to access each other
[02:17] <cracker> quit
[02:17] <KM0201> imadper: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1713808
[02:17] <imadper> KM0201: I try to change it with a ath's 802.11n, but it's a full size
[02:18] <imadper> KM0201: thx
[02:18] <srm> delinquentme, read the link I gave you. In short: if you enter a (program-)name in your terminal/bash/shell, the shell looks in the current directory for a program with this name to execute, if it can't find it, it goes through all directories listed in PATH to find the program
[02:18] <imadper> KM0201: :D
[02:18] <delinquentme> check! srm
[02:18] <delinquentme> thanks:D
[02:18] <rozander1> hmm
[02:18] <KM0201> imadper: scary what 2sec of googling will do.
[02:19] <babalu> alguien me puede ayudar porfavor?
[02:19] <rozander1> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[02:19] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[02:19] <rozander1> any ideas ?
[02:19] <babalu> kite el pulse audi
[02:19] <bazhang> !es | babalu
[02:20] <babalu> !es
[02:20] <bazhang> babalu, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:20] <imadper> KM0201: I can't use google, because i'm in china
[02:21] <KM0201> imadper: well.. that sucks.
[02:21] <bazhang> imadper, use baidu then
[02:21] <KM0201> can you use yahoo?
[02:21] <imadper> KM0201: Chinese gov stopped people use google, so baidu i have searched
[02:21] <pfifo> use bing :D
[02:21] <imadper> bazhang: ok~
[02:21] <KM0201> pfifo: lol
[02:22] <nit-wit> imadper, http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
[02:23] <imadper> but when i search, it will return only chinese page, and it has no use for me
[02:23] <basilfaulty> what msn app do ppl like?
[02:23] <imadper> nit-wit: what do you mean?
[02:23] <rozander1> lol is anyone good with errors like make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[02:23] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[02:23] <delinquentme> srm,  unf-ubu@unf-ubu:~/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2$ export CROSSBOW_HOME= /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/   # =>  not a valid identifier
[02:24]  * imadper thanks a lot~
[02:24] <RevSpecies116> basilfaulty: Pidgin
[02:24] <nit-wit> imadper, just another search engine.;)
[02:24] <srm> delinquentme, what's up with the spaces?
[02:24] <basilfaulty> thanks
[02:24] <KM0201> basilfaulty: there's several.. pidgin, kopete, empathy, amsn
[02:24] <kingofswords> can i read ubuntu patition in xp?
[02:24] <xio3> i was hoping someone could help me figure out what i'm doing wrong. I would like to generate a bunch of private/pub keys on a server and then package them in a .deb (one key per .deb file) so that a script could connect with ssh and do some port forwarding using passwordess logins. I had no problem generating a public/private key pair on the client and then uploading it and adding it to a authorized_keys2 file.  problem comes in when i try
[02:24] <xio3> to do this in reverse. in theory i thought i could generate the public/private key pair, add the pub key to the server's authorized_keys file of the user which the client will connect as and then use ssh -i id_rsa.pub that is in the package installed on the client to connect without a password to the server. i have tried a ton of different things to get this to working and no matter what asks me for a password.
[02:24] <KM0201> basilfaulty: do you need audio/video?
[02:24] <xio3> suggestions?
[02:24] <imadper> nit-wit: sorry, it can't use in China。。
[02:24] <FloodBot1> xio3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <delinquentme> check!
[02:25] <basilfaulty> no, just standard text, maybe pics
[02:25] <KM0201> basilfaulty: then any o those will work (i personally think pidgin has the best interface)
[02:25] <basilfaulty> cool, will try them
[02:25] <imadper> nit-wit: you konw, Chinese gov hav "GFW" to stop people use google~
[02:26] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[02:26] <kneaux> I'd like an alternative to charmap.app, as I don't like its unnecessary, cluttersome, oddball, ugly, extra window. Anyone know of anything good - hopefully in the repositories? (gnome-character-map is gone! ??)
[02:27] <KM0201> i'm surprised china even allows internet access to be truthful.. but. thats really not on topic here
[02:27] <bazhang> imadper, we know. directly search ubuntuforums then
[02:28] <jammonstrald> is there any way to configure gtkfilechooser to use a location bar/toolbar in place of the default path-bar?
[02:29] <imadper> bazhang: ok, thx~ :D
[02:30] <babalu> guys
[02:30] <babalu> help plz
[02:30] <babalu> how do I multi stream an audio device in ubuntu 10.10
[02:31] <RevSpecies116> imadper: I think you CAN use google - through the Hong Kong Google site
[02:31] <RevSpecies116> www.google.cn
[02:32] <imadper> RevSpecies116: ok, I don't think so. every day , It can use only ONE hour...
[02:33] <RevSpecies116> www.google.cn AND www.google.com.hk
[02:34] <RevSpecies116> Many solutions for mainland China
[02:34] <imadper> RevSpecies116: It’s all the same。。。It‘s true。
[02:36] <imadper> RevSpecies116: The goverment build "The great fire wall"to stop people who try to visit google/youtube/facebook and so on
[02:37] <rozander1> can anyone help me get my wifi card working please
[02:38] <OctoByte> rozander1,  what wifi card do you have?
[02:38] <nit-wit> rozander1, what is the card?
[02:39] <rozander1> hey its an edimax   EW-7612pin
[02:40] <KM0201> rozander1: is it usb, or PCI(internal)?
[02:40] <rozander1> internal
[02:40] <KM0201> rozander1: type "lspci" ina  terminal and hit enter, go through the output, and find your wireless card, and tell us what chipset it is.
[02:41] <rozander1> how will i no which line is chipset
[02:41] <srm> rozander1, that's a bad habit you have there. bother mentioning the RTL-chipset it uses? bother mentioning that you have a CD with linux drivers to build kernel modules based on HAL (bad thing now) and that this cd provides a wpa_supplicant and all the other stuff you've figured out?
[02:41] <KM0201> rozander1: cuz it will probably say it's wireless
[02:41] <KM0201> rozander1: or it may say "802.11g" or something like that
[02:42] <KM0201> rozander1: if you can't figure out which one it is.. pastebin your lspci and give me the link
[02:42] <KM0201> !pastebin | rozander1
[02:42] <KM0201> hmm, ubottu is sleeping
[02:42] <jimjam> !pastebin | jimjam
[02:42] <srm> he should first learn to tell what he already knows and not wasting time going through the same things over and over again.
[02:42] <RevSpecies116> rozander1: I know you want to jump straight into wifi, but does wired ethernet work on your Ubuntu at all?
[02:43] <RevSpecies116> Simple steps first
[02:43] <rozander1> yes wired is fine
[02:43] <rozander1> iam actually using a wired ethernet now this is the very system
[02:43] <schaumie2222> could anybody help me out with playing videos on firefox
[02:43] <rozander1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/618732/
[02:43] <KM0201> rozander1: well, that should hopefully make it easy to set up.. so just find your wireless device
[02:43] <jimjam> schaumie what's wrong with it?
[02:43] <KM0201> rozander1: 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[02:44] <rozander1> right
[02:44] <RevSpecies116> OKies, rozander1 simple step done ;)
[02:44] <KM0201> rozander1: what version of ubuntu do you have?... i thought that worked out of the box?(i have an 8198)
[02:44] <rozander1> its the 11. watever were on now lmao
[02:44] <KM0201> ..
[02:44] <RevSpecies116> Natty
[02:44] <schaumie2222> its worked for a while but now when movies go to play it has a little movie reel looking thing with a music note in the bottom left and a play button in the middle, when i go to click it it goes to a stop button and nothing happens
[02:45] <schaumie2222> im not sure when it stopped working but i think after an update
[02:45] <rozander1> 11.04
[02:45] <AJ4X> I want to dual boot ubuntu 11.04 and windows 7 on my netbook but can i have one partition as ntfs and another as ext4? Please help
[02:45] <KM0201> AJ4X: what do you mean?..
[02:45] <schnuffle> AJ4X: So where is your problem?
[02:45] <AJ4X> i dont want to install under windows
[02:46] <dtsund> AJ4X: There's no problem with that.
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> schaumie2222: try this: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> :)
[02:46] <AJ4X> doesnt ubuntu use ext4?
[02:46] <schaumie2222> already installed rev
[02:46] <rozander1> yes its ext4 lol
[02:46] <rozander1> ajx are you using the live cd
[02:46] <rozander1> from boot
[02:46] <rozander1> or trying to install literally under windows
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> Rightclick on the media file, and 'open with...' VLC
[02:46] <jimjam> schaumie what site are you watching the videos on? Does it apply to all videos or just from one sitE?
[02:46] <dtsund> Having different partitions differently formatted is no problem
[02:46] <schnuffle> AJ4X: yes
[02:46] <AJ4X> i heard if i install under windows it is slower than a fresh install
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> As is sounds like totem has taken control, schaumie2222
[02:47] <schaumie2222> icefilms.info
[02:47] <KM0201> rozander1: what kind of laptop is that
[02:47] <schnuffle> AJ4X: How big is the ext4 partition?
[02:47] <rozander1> Km its a desktop
[02:47] <AJ4X> i didnt partition it yet
[02:47] <AJ4X> its a aspire one
[02:47] <dtsund> Anyway, I've got an upgrading problem, wondering if there's any quick fix:
[02:48] <dtsund> I've got a 9.04 machine I'd like to upgrade to 10.04 LTS
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> upgrade or straight there, dtsund
[02:48] <w30> AJ4X, I think you are confusing installing under windows, installing with windows and wubi
[02:48] <dtsund> Update Manager shows the upgrade as 10.04, but when I click the Upgrade button it just says I can't go directly from 9.04 to 10.04
[02:48] <schnuffle> AJ4X: So first install windows keep enough free space for 2 partitions at least ( one swap, one for the system) and after win7 install ubuntu
[02:48] <grahame> Help, I'm a novice. I have 3 Ubuntu Lucid installations (marvellous) but on one .... All windows are {Closed} when my wife clicks on the minimize button. What has gone wrong, or how can I fix this?
[02:48] <KM0201> dtsund: you can't go straight to LTS from 9.04... your easiest path will be a clean install
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> As the upgrade method needs to update to 9.10
[02:48] <delinquentme> so i've got a program which wants to run another program.. im guessing that there are special permissions i need to give to the slave file?
[02:48] <rozander1> Km/srm since this version has a problem with HAL or watever would it not be a quick fix to downgrade ?
[02:48] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: I understand that.
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> and then you need to upgrade to 10.04
[02:49] <rozander1> to like ubuntu 10.04
[02:49] <dtsund> Update Manager isn't giving me the option, though.
[02:49] <schaumie2222> right click open with vlc is not an option either
[02:49] <dtsund> There a command line ritual I can perform?
[02:49] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: open the update manager
[02:49] <KM0201> !tab | rozander1 if you're gnna say my name, complete it, so i don't have to search what you're saying
[02:49] <AJ4X> so installing under windows wouldnt make it run slower?
[02:49] <RevSpecies116> And then in the bottom of the window, you should see settings...
[02:50] <RevSpecies116> And in the settings, you can tick a button to let you know about OS updates to the next versions
[02:50] <schnuffle> AJ4X: Yes and wubi seems to be very prone to update problems
[02:50] <AJ4X> oh
[02:50] <w30> AJ4X, there is dual booting with windows as an install and Ubuntu as an install. Wubi runs Linux as an application more or less (mostly less I guess)
[02:50] <rozander1> KM0201:  what would be the next step then...
[02:51] <AJ4X> i want ubuntu to be my primary and windows just for programs that cant run on linux
[02:51] <KM0201> rozander1: unfortunately not seeing much of a suggestion.. i'm surprised it doesn't work though, i have an 8198 that works out of the box.
[02:51] <KM0201> AJ4X: then you definitely DO NOT want to use Wubi.
[02:51] <AJ4X> oh
[02:51] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Not sure where you mean...
[02:51] <rozander1> hmm i also have one that may be in the 8 series hold
[02:51] <AJ4X> so i should install ubuntu first?
[02:51] <kevin> Hi guys
[02:51] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: Are you on Ubuntu or on a variant?
[02:51] <KM0201> AJ4X: does your machine currently have windows installed?
[02:52] <dtsund> Ubuntu.
[02:52] <kevin> I have 2 monitors, the small one keeps coming up as the primary for teh login.  How can I change that?
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: Please open the update manager
[02:52]  * delinquentme does the ubuntu dance
[02:52] <schnuffle> AJ4X:  No install win first as the Ubuntu boot loader can add windows but not the other way round
[02:52] <dtsund> Well, Kubuntu technically, but I ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop after finding that KDE4 was, well, KDE4.
[02:52] <kevin> I'v tried the Nvidie x config, but no luck
[02:52] <dtsund> And I have Update Manager open already
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> And do you have a 'settings...' button?
[02:53] <dtsund> Yeah, I have that open
[02:53] <jenvy> kevin, the easiest way to do that from my experience is to swap the stuff you plug into the back of your computer ;-)
[02:53] <jenvy> input1->input2, input2-input1
[02:53] <dtsund> There's a 'Show New distribution releases' section, but it's already set to 'normal releases'
[02:53] <w30> AJ4X, no, windows will wipe your boot loader for Linux, Linux as the second system will install a bootloader for both Linux and windows
[02:53] <RevSpecies116> And on the settings window, do you see an option to be informed about updates to the next version of Ubuntu?
[02:53] <turkfebruary> possible to change the number of workspaces in 11.04?
[02:54] <kevin> jenvy, yeah, I wanted to do that but have one DVI and one VGA style adapter... screwed on that front
[02:54] <rozander1> KM0201:  i have an  7728 which is also realtek...it didnt work on 10.04 which is why i bought this older one lmao i thought it might be supported..
[02:54] <rozander1> havnt tried this one with 11.04 though
[02:54] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Yes, and it's already set to do so
[02:54] <jenvy> kevin, ah then i don't know.. whenever that happens ijust swap them in the back, i use two dvi though.
[02:54] <schaumie2222> could somebody pm me with some help playing videos in firefox that once worked but have since stopped working
[02:54] <KM0201> rozander1: i thought you said you had 11.04
[02:55] <dtsund> It knows there's a new version, it's just not letting me download the *right* one
[02:55] <rozander1> KM0201:  i do...but when i bought this one i had 10.04
[02:55] <KM0201> ..
[02:55] <delinquentme> whats the CHMOD which would allow the specific program to be run by other programs??
[02:55] <grahame> Help. One of my 3 Ubuntu 10.04 installations {Exits} all windows when I click the {minimize} button. [weird]. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks
[02:56] <schnuffle> delinquentme: chmod a+x /path/to/binary would allow everybody to execute the binary
[02:56] <rozander1> KM0201:  i have a newer realtek wireless card....which i bought when i had 10.04 but it did not work with 10.04 wasnt supported...so i put it in the drawer lol now i have 11.04 and iam trying to use this older realtek device but iam wondering if this newer one i had in the drawer might be more supported
[02:56] <Nisstyre> yes
[02:56] <Silowyi> just mode 1777 everything
[02:56] <Silowyi> your firewall is secure right?
[02:56] <Silowyi> ;)
[02:56] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140957
[02:57] <KM0201> rozander1: anything is possible i guess.
[02:57] <RevSpecies116> dtsund: what is it offereing you to update to?
[02:57] <KM0201> rozander1: can't hurt to try really
[02:57] <rozander1> right ill try hold
[02:58] <delinquentme> schnuffle, would allowing a single program be a safer option?
[02:58] <KM0201> the one ralink i have (like i said, 8198)... was tossed in w/ some other junk i bought, and w/ 11.04, i plug it in, it detects networks, i connect to them.
[02:58] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: It's trying to download and install lucid.
[02:58] <schnuffle> delinquentme: what are you trying to achieve?
[02:58] <dtsund> :|
[02:58] <dtsund> And failing.
[02:58] <KM0201> !dualboot | AJ4X there's some good instructions here for dual booting
[02:58] <AJ4X> thanks man
[02:59] <KM0201> AJ4X: does the machine already have windows installed?
[02:59] <AJ4X> yes
[02:59] <AJ4X> but it's windows starter
[02:59] <KM0201> AJ4X: ok.. so.. if i understand correctly..
[03:00] <AJ4X> and i want to install ultimate
[03:00] <Usuario123456789> teste
[03:00] <KM0201> AJ4X: what you want to do, is have... Partition 1-- some version o windows, partition 2 ubuntu, partition 3.. files (music, pics, etc..) so they can be sharec between the two OS's?
[03:00] <grahame> Does anyone have an idea why 1 of my 3 Lucid 10.04 LTS installations will not {minimize} any window, it always(!){Closes} them? Thanks,
[03:00] <RevSpecies116> Oh, bummer, dtsund :(
[03:00] <delinquentme> schnuffle, i have a program called crossbow giving me this output: http://pastie.org/2020627 .. line 11 makes me think that its a chmod / permissions issue
[03:00] <AJ4X> well if that is possible yes
[03:00] <KM0201> AJ4X: very possible...
[03:01] <dtsund> There a .deb floating around somewhere for the upgrade?
[03:01] <chardluck> hi?
[03:02] <delinquentme> schnuffle, i can give you the entire output if it would help
[03:02] <grahame> Does anyone have an idea why 1 of my 3 Lucid 10.04 LTS installations will not {minimize} any window, it always(!){Closes} them? Thanks,
[03:02] <schnuffle> delinquentme: paste it to pastebin
[03:03] <delinquentme> schnuffle, http://pastebin.com/FNAYDEfK
[03:03] <schnuffle> delinquentme: what you can do is do a chmod 755  /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/linux32 and retry
[03:04] <imadper> Hi, my wifi card can't find any networks. And i have do like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608095  but it still not work. By the way, it's Ralink 3592.
[03:04] <Pilif12p> i'm trying to upload a picture to Facebook, but when I go to my camera, I get the error "Cannot change to folder because it is not local"
[03:05] <schnuffle> delinquentme: okay paste a ls -l /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/sratoolkit.2.0.1-ubuntu32/fastq-dump
[03:05] <delinquentme> schmidtm, line 47 is the program that needs to run
[03:05] <Pilif12p> if it matters, the camera is a Finepix S2950, using Aurora
[03:05] <Pilif12p> I stand corrected. This is Fx5 beta
[03:05] <delinquentme> schnuffle, now.. im also running a 64 bit version of ubuntu .. and thats a 32 bit program .. are they backwards compatible?
[03:06] <delinquentme> lrwxrwxrwx 1 unf-ubu unf-ubu 12 2011-06-04 21:46 /home/unf-ubu/biohack/crossbow-1.1.2/bin/sratoolkit.2.0.1-ubuntu32/fastq-dump -> fastq-dump.2
[03:06] <schnuffle> delinquentme: aah, so you're on 64bit, it can work if you have the 32bit libs installed as weel
[03:06] <schnuffle> as well
[03:06] <delinquentme> haha
[03:07] <babalu> how can I reinstall pulseaudio as fresh ubuntu 10.10 install?
[03:07] <delinquentme> 32 bit library ... for ubuntu or that program?
[03:07] <babalu> anyone?
[03:07] <w30> delinquentme, getlibs is what you need to run 32 bit Apps on 64bit OS
[03:07] <Smackwho> Pilif12p, u probably want to save the images locally first rather than uploading from camera.
[03:08] <Pilif12p> here's another issue: It won't connect properly
[03:08] <delinquentme> babalu, MAIN MENU >> Applications >> Ubuntu Software Center  >> type in program name .. and click 'remove'
[03:08] <naijaura> does anyone know how to mount a esata hdd on ubuntu 10.10 please.. kind of new to the OS
[03:08] <Pilif12p> nevermind. it does
[03:08] <delinquentme> w30, sudo apt-get install getlibs?
[03:08] <rozander1> KM0201:  no luck :(
[03:08] <naijaura> anyone pls
[03:08] <naijaura> :(
[03:08] <babalu> how can I reinstall pulseaudio as fresh ubuntu 10.10 install? anyone plz
[03:09] <KM0201> hmm... rozander1 i'm out of ideas... whats the chipset on the other device?
[03:09] <rozander1> uhh iam not sure....i think i can actually install this theirs just the Hal problem
[03:09] <delinquentme> w30, schnuffle theres also a CENT OS .. x64 version .. would that be a better choice?
[03:09] <rozander1> becouse i have the disk and the linux bit of it with all the make files and a .tar.gz
[03:10] <schnuffle> delinquentme: yes of course
[03:10] <delinquentme> schnuffle, oh.. really? so any linux build will be just fine?
[03:11] <rozander1> KM0201:  i get this error when i try make the file make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[03:11] <rozander1> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/HAL/rtl8192'. Stop.
[03:11] <rozander1> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae'
[03:11] <rozander1> make: *** [all] Error 2
[03:11] <fartypants> HI
[03:11] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:12] <fartypants> I just downloaded a raw file from sourgeforge and its a purple diamond
[03:12] <fartypants> what do I do next?
[03:12] <fartypants> I suppose its not like running a exe file
[03:13] <endgame> how do i read/compile a PHP file in ubuntu? i have LAMP installed on my coomputer
[03:13] <dtsund> Is there any way to override do-release-upgrade default behavior?  There doesn't seem to be a man page...
[03:14] <rozander1> KM0201:  I ALSO HAVE A SUPPLICANT
[03:14] <rozander1> OH SORRY CAPS
[03:14] <rozander1> lmao and again. oops
[03:14] <FloodBot1> rozander1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:14] <schnuffle> delinquentme: I would stay with the ubuntu binaries and install the 32bit libs. see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How to Make 32-bit Applications Work on a 64-bit Operating System
[03:14] <Senix> I have a bit of a problem with WinFF in Ubuntu, It gives me this error when converting things into mp3: Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[03:15] <KM0201> rozander1: did you by chance figur eout the chipset on the second device?
[03:15] <rurufufuss_> guys, question: it is possible to have both 64bit and 32bit ubuntu on the same machine (dual boot) right?
[03:15] <rozander1> yeh unfortunatly its the same one as this
[03:15] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: i don't see why not.
[03:15] <KM0201> oh ok.
[03:15] <fartypants> Do I have to move this diamond shape icon to the BIN folder? in order for it to work?
[03:15] <w30>  delinquentme http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[03:15] <semitones> how difficult is it to compile a kernel module?
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> thanks KM, is 64 bit as widespread as 32bit, and is it supported widely?
[03:16] <rozander1> ruru no it isnt
[03:16] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: not really, if you have hardware compatibility issues, 32bit is really the place to be.
[03:16] <rozander1> 32 bit is more supported but most new applications support 64
[03:16] <Sanctusorium> Does anyone know how to start the freenx program?  I restarted my computer and I don't know how to start it up :P
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> I see
[03:16] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: how much ram do you have?
[03:16] <rurufufuss_> but you need 64bit to get more than 4GB ram eh?
[03:17] <rurufufuss_> 2GB right now, it seems
[03:17] <rozander1> only in windows i think ?
[03:17] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: not really...
[03:17] <KM0201> !pae | rurufufuss_
[03:17] <rurufufuss_> oh thanks!
[03:17] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:17] <sigmab3ta> hey everyone. anyone been having issues with natty and glibc version 2.13?
[03:17] <KM0201> rurufufuss_: if you install 32bit on a system w/ more than 3.2gigs of ram, the installer will detect that, and automatically install the PAE kernel.. which i think supports of to 16gigs
[03:18] <bazhang> sigmab3ta, what issues
[03:18] <rozander1> KM0201:  if the problem is this HAL thing...does 10.04 support hal
[03:18] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:18] <KM0201> rozander1: i think so..
[03:18] <dtsund> RevSpecies116: Looks like it is possible to upgrade, but the process for expired versions is somewhat involved. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades if you're somehow still interested
[03:18] <sigmab3ta> for example when I try to run VLC with XvBA decoding (accelerated decoding through radeon graphics card) i get a VLC segfault
[03:18] <rozander1> how do you downgrade
[03:18] <dtsund> Thanks anyway!
[03:18] <bazhang> rozander1, you dont
[03:18] <sigmab3ta> dmesg traces it to "error 4 in libc-2.13.so"
[03:18] <bazhang> rozander1, full reinstall
[03:18] <rozander1> lol i kinda need to so i can use wireless
[03:19] <rozander1> really. god sake
[03:19] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle:  Tried there.  The command it tells me to use with the path way just get Ubuntu to lecture me about how I should just call the service.
[03:19] <Sanctusorium> The service that isn't running <_<
[03:19] <KM0201> rozander1: i'm not aware of any OS, that supports "downgrading".. windows included
[03:19] <rurufufuss_> question: has there been anyone that managed to run Mac OSX snow leopard on vmware, on ubuntu?
[03:19] <bazhang> Jon--, try padevchooser pavucontrol
[03:19] <rurufufuss_> like, how viable is it?
[03:19] <bazhang> rurufufuss_, since thats illegal, no
[03:20] <rozander1> hmm so ....can 11.04 not support Hal...
[03:20] <rurufufuss_> right, thanks
[03:20] <fartypants> I tried to install MANDVD and it says this...
[03:20] <rozander1> is their no way to reverse the obselecense of it
[03:20] <fartypants> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package mandvd
[03:20] <larrylooch> t
[03:20] <fartypants> Does this means in installed?
[03:20] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: I don't see your problem. When you launch the freenx server you can't connect to it with the client? Normally the client opens a ssh connection and launches the server itself before connecting
[03:20] <bazhang> !info mandvd
[03:21] <bazhang> fartypants, no such package exists, what do want it for
[03:21] <fartypants> bazhang: no I downloaded it from sourceforge
[03:21] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I don't know how to start the server.  :P
[03:21] <KM0201> fartypants: then you need to compile it
[03:21] <bazhang> fartypants, to do what
[03:21] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: can you connect with ssh to your server?
[03:21] <fartypants> right now its a purple diamond
[03:21] <Sanctusorium> Yep, already am :)
[03:22] <rozander1> hm
[03:22] <fartypants> fartypants: I liked this software for burning dvd's
[03:22] <rozander1> i think buying a new wireless card might be the way to go lol
[03:22] <bazhang> fartypants, explain exactly what you need it for
[03:22] <schnuffle> Okay so what happens when you start the NX-Client on some other PC and try to connect?
[03:22] <fartypants> bazhang: burning dvd's
[03:22] <w30> How can I have a lower panel in Classic and not one in Unity?
[03:22] <fartypants> bazhang: it encodes it and burns it
[03:22] <fartypants> good software
[03:22] <bazhang> fartypants, many exist in ubuntu already no need for that
[03:22] <KM0201> fartypants: go here, and download the .deb, it will install much easier...  http://www.getdeb.net/software/2ManDVD
[03:23] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:23] <rozander1> so anyone any ideas before i give up and buy a new one lmao
[03:23] <bazhang> Jon--, read what I said earlier
[03:23] <Jon--> bazhang, There isn't an already installed package to do this?
[03:24] <Sanctusorium> The NX service is not available or the NX access was disabled on host IPHERE
[03:24] <bazhang> Jon--, have you tried what I suggested or not
[03:24] <fartypants> KM0201: it says could not find package
[03:24] <KM0201> ..
[03:24] <xekon> neat
[03:24] <KM0201> fartypants: hld on
[03:25] <fartypants> ok KM0201
[03:25] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: Did you run the nxsetup script?
[03:26] <KM0201> fartypants: can you give me the link where you downloaded that program?(the one you currently have, the diamond)
[03:26] <Sanctusorium> Nope.  :P  None of the tutorials said to do that.  *Sigh*  This is how I run linux, lots and lots of tutorials and then the awesome people here when things go wrong
[03:26] <fartypants> KM0201: right here...
[03:26] <fartypants> http://sourceforge.net/projects/csgib/
[03:27] <mouse_> What's the terminal command for changing the sound output to a certain percentage?
[03:27] <KM0201> hagn on
[03:27] <w30> Jon--, I thought that was almost a hardware thing; Did you look in your bios settings for a tweek?
[03:27] <Sanctusorium> There it is!  Found it on the ubuntu community page.
[03:27] <Sanctusorium> :)
[03:27] <bazhang> mouse_, check alsamixer
[03:27] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: So check if you have the script available, if not download it from https://bugs.launchpad.net/freenx-server/+bug/576359/+attachment/1378450/+files/nxsetup.tar.gz
[03:28] <mouse_> bazhang, I did.  I'm not having trouble changing the volume right now.  I want to write a script and I'm wondering if there's a command to change the volume in the terminal.
[03:28] <djmaster> how do i run taz.gz
[03:29] <bazhang> djmaster, of what package
[03:29] <Senix> I have a bit of a problem with WinFF in Ubuntu, It gives me this error when converting things into mp3: Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[03:29] <djmaster> bazhang, themes
[03:29] <bazhang> Senix, it's installed? or not
[03:29] <bazhang> djmaster, drag to theme manager, dont unpack it
[03:30] <Senix> bazhang: yes 'sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0'
[03:30] <djmaster> bazhang, ty
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> Wait.  *facepalm*  I DID do that.  But lets see if re running it after I rebooted did anything.
[03:30] <bazhang> Senix, ripping from cd? or converting flac and the like to mp3
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> Nope
[03:30] <Sanctusorium> I still get the "not available" issue
[03:30] <semitones> how can I troubleshoot this error? "cp: cannot create regular file `/home/warren/.config/autostart/': Is a directory"
[03:30] <Senix> bazhang: converting flac to mp3
[03:31] <sirfartsalotzSti> hi
[03:31] <Jon--> bazhang, I am reluctant to install packages I may not need if I don't have to.
[03:31] <semitones> I checked and i couldn't find either a file or directory with that
[03:31] <Sanctusorium> Is the set up just a script that basically says "do you want to install the default key or make your own?"
[03:31] <w30> AJ4X, I missed your private message window, I got it now
[03:31] <bazhang> Jon--, good luck then
[03:31] <Sanctusorium> I use the default key because I would not know what to do when making my own
[03:31] <Jon--> w30, I am pretty sure I've had it only playing over headphones before on Ubuntu, and the laptop can certainly do so on the Windows partition.
[03:32] <djmaster> bazhang,  it did not work
[03:32] <bazhang> djmaster, whats the link, what was the error
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> Whao!  Got it to connect some how!
[03:32] <w30> Jon--, that sucks don't it?
[03:32] <djmaster> bazhang,  was no error just would not drag to
[03:33] <bazhang> djmaster, whats the link
[03:33] <Sanctusorium> Thanks for helping :)
[03:33] <djmaster> hold on
[03:33] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: :) your welcome
[03:33] <KM0201> fartypants: hang on a sec, think i found the answer
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I miiiight ask for one more piece of advice.  I'm running a VPS and it wants me to now select a desktp...
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: ok
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> I prefer LXDE due to ram saving
[03:34] <KM0201> fartypants: for what its worth, i don't think that package you downloaded, is put together properly
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> How could I add that to the list?
[03:34] <Jon--> w30, ... yes?
[03:34] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have a question ,ever since i updated to ubuntu 11.4, have been unable to launch mozilla firefox. All my files also show /home/usrname
[03:34] <Jon--> My sound outputs both to my internal speakers and to my external headphones. How can I set it to only send out to the headphone output when a device is plugged in?
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> Or is that a question for #nx?
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: you mean the link you gave me?
[03:34] <bazhang> Sanctusorium, install lubuntu-desktop
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: or the sourceforge one
[03:34] <KM0201> fartypants: no, the one you gave me
[03:34] <fartypants> ok
[03:34] <KM0201> (although the one i gave you, isn't working either)
[03:34] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have no problems launching google chrome
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> bazhang: Okie!  :)
[03:34] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: you mean that you want a LXDE env when connecting with NX?
[03:34] <fartypants> KM0201: ya
[03:34] <Phong_> hi guys, why i use Ubuntu 11.04 and the usb wireless never connect? i've try like 2 usb wireless
[03:35] <Phong_> any clue?
[03:35] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Yep!
[03:35] <bazhang> !wifi | Phong_
[03:35] <Phong_> my usb wireless works nicely on windows 7
[03:35] <rubbity> The plant then took the guano molecule into it's root... going up it's stalk or shoot it deftly
[03:35] <rubbity> turned into a pollen grain, swept up by a bee taking it to it's nest
[03:35] <rubbity> The nest gave birth to a larvae, which turned into a pupae, and finally into an adult bee
[03:35] <rubbity> The molecule went into the bee's stinger during growth.   All my files also show /home/usrname . can anyone help me?
[03:36] <djmaster> bazhang,  and http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Glow+Pack?content=142258
[03:37] <Jon--> bazhang, I installed the controller, but I don't see any way of disabling or enabling the internal speakers.
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> And to counter the negitive spam, I want to thank all of you in this channel who are constantly helping others like.  If it weren't for you, I'd have been stuck and gave up on linux ages ago.
[03:37] <fartypants> Thanks KM0201 but do I have to extract those files somewhere
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> Thanks, so much :)
[03:37] <Jon--> It only lists one output device.
[03:37] <KM0201> fartypants: no, it is an ubuntu package
[03:37] <KM0201> download it, double clickit, it will open software manager, and it should install... (if it doesn't, lemme know)
[03:37] <fartypants> KM0201: I will confess, I am on mint
[03:37] <semitones> I can't tell if this worked or not (compiling a kernel module) http://paste.ubuntu.com/618763/ any help?
[03:37] <KM0201> fartypants: well that would have been good to know, but.. it should be irrelevant
[03:38] <sirfartsalotzSti> i have a question ,ever since i updated to ubuntu 11.4, have been unable to launch mozilla firefox. All my files also show /home/usrname . can anyone help me ?
[03:38] <xidica> i'm experiencing the same ATA type freezes as described at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15573 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550559
[03:38] <xidica> SATA* even
[03:38] <fartypants> KM0201: was this the right file?
[03:38] <fartypants> KM0201: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/mandvd_2.5-5.orig.tar.gz
[03:39] <KM0201> fartypants: did you listen to a thing i typed?
[03:39] <fartypants> KM0201: yes
[03:39] <xidica> anyone familiar with this and does libata.force=noncq fix the issue for most people? I'm thinking about reverting to an older kernel if not
[03:39] <fartypants> you gave me a link
[03:39] <sirfartsalotzSti> u talking to me?
[03:39] <fartypants> KM0201: that was the link
[03:39] <KM0201> and i said... "under downloadable files, download th e.deb file"
[03:39] <sirfartsalotzSti>  cos i fart a lot too\
[03:39] <KM0201> ..
[03:40] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, try uninstalling and reinstalling FF
[03:40] <fartypants> KM0201: ok
[03:40] <fartypants> KM0201: I downloaded that
[03:40] <sirfartsalotzSti> i would luv to do that samck
[03:40] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: are you using XDM?
[03:40] <sirfartsalotzSti>  but i would hate to lose all my saved password
[03:40] <KM0201> fartypants: now, double click it
[03:40] <KM0201> and it should open software center
[03:41] <KM0201> then install it
[03:41] <sirfartsalotzSti> and it's not only firefox , other apps too
[03:41] <fartypants> KM0201: No it doesn't
[03:41] <KM0201> ...
[03:41] <fartypants> it just opens a seperate winrar looking thing
[03:41] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I believe so.  Is that X server?  If so, I think it got installed when I installed LXDE
[03:41] <fartypants> with a debian and usr folder
[03:41] <KM0201> fartypants: then right click it, and choose open with software center (assuming mint has that)
[03:41] <Sanctusorium> Otherwise, probably not.
[03:42] <KM0201> "good thing mint is so easy"
[03:42] <sirfartsalotzSti> i mean have been using same ubuntu /ff since ubuntu 9 and have upgraded several times without issue
[03:42] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: So you installed the LXDE desktop on a standard Ubuntu install?
[03:42] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Regular ubuntu server install.  Didn't come with the GUI
[03:42] <delinquentme> w30, so i installed that package.. i dont need it .. its not coming up as an option under the ubuntu software center
[03:42] <Sanctusorium> This is a VPS :)
[03:43] <sirfartsalotzSti>  what i suspect is that i installed nautilus b4 lestest upgrade and seem to have messed with the file and folder permission when the update was done
[03:43] <bazhang> sirfartsalotzSti, nautilus is already installed
[03:43] <xidica> trying to add libata.force=noncq to my kernel paramters in grub, but they no longer store these in menu.lst it appears, I'm looking at /etc/default/grub ... can't seem to find where I'd place this
[03:43] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh i know  ir was installed on the previous kernel
[03:43] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, 11.04 is a big change from the past... u can backup your FF prefs and import them back in after you reinstall
[03:44] <bazhang> sirfartsalotzSti, that makes zero sense
[03:44] <delinquentme> w30, nm got it
[03:44] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: check the config file /etc/nxserver/node.conf and paste it
[03:44] <sirfartsalotzSti> \ but i remeber doing something to enable me to change the column i see for music  like bitrate,year , when created , u know
[03:45] <sirfartsalotzSti> smack but that is not the only apps i have issues with
[03:45] <lynyrd> ciao
[03:45] <lynyrd> !list
[03:45] <fartypants> KM0201: thats dude it works now :D
[03:45] <fartypants> KM0201: thanks
[03:45] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, well... you are going to have to take things one app at a time most likly
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: where can I get more packages like that so that it opens with software manager?
[03:46] <sirfartsalotzSti> even my grub config file , when i change settings in it and saved successfully, it is not effective on next boot
[03:46] <sylvyor> lotzo group
[03:46] <KM0201> fartypants: just google.. thats how i found that one ( i assume it worked?)
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: yes it did
[03:46] <fartypants> KM0201: and thanks for your help
[03:46] <KM0201> np
[03:46] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: I don't think floodbot would like that none too much ;D  I'll paste bin it, but its ALLL commented.  Every last line is commented.
[03:46] <sirfartsalotzSti> really guys I believe issue has to do with file permissions and access under my home folder
[03:47] <notNicolas> dude
[03:47] <sylvyor> call me sylvy
[03:47] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: use pastebin of course :)
[03:47] <notNicolas> is it possible to reformat my iPod into a ubuntu installation USB then reformat it back into an iPod?
[03:47] <fartypants> KM0201: but I mean there is no other site that has packages like that that open in the software manager?
[03:47] <fartypants> KM0201: like a sourceforge site
[03:48] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Question...  How do I copy the whole document in SSH?  >.>
[03:48] <pie_> is there a way to view the metadata of windows executable files?
[03:48] <Smackwho> notNicolas no.
[03:48] <pie_> such as version number
[03:48] <notNicolas> Darn it.
[03:48] <KM0201> fartypants: you can try getdeb.net   but... it's kinda hit/miss
[03:48] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: with scp, but you can install pastebinit which can aste it direclty and gives you the URL
[03:48] <notNicolas> My notebook doesn't have a disc drive, and I don't have any spare USBs.
[03:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> example i chnage grub settings to make windows the default os to load and i accepts and saved it successfully but it is still loading linux as default
[03:49] <endgame> i am having a hard time trying to get my computer to read PHP files.. can any1 help?
[03:49] <notNicolas> I want to totally reformat my notebook to ubuntu
[03:49] <Smackwho> notNicolas no.
[03:49] <notNicolas> no?
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: cool man
[03:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> and don't forget i cannot even edit grub without root acct
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: thank you
[03:49] <fartypants> KM0201: take care now
[03:49] <Smackwho> notNicolas sorrry... usbs are cheap...
[03:49] <notNicolas> yeahhh but I don't want to go into town just to buy one
[03:50] <Sanctusorium> http://pastebin.com/wUzKnpXh
[03:50] <sirfartsalotzSti> example i chnage grub settings to make windows the default os to load and i accepts and saved it successfully but it is still loading linux as default
[03:51] <sylvyor> Query: how can I connect my Dynex wireless router to my Versalink Internet DSL Router so that my upstairs comps (mixed OS's) get connected... (Gaggle does offer much info)
[03:51] <sirfartsalotzSti>  and don't forget i cannot even edit grub without root acct
[03:51] <Smackwho> sirfartsalotzSti, I am no grub expert
[03:51] <sylvyor> 2 routers on I-net connection... mucho wireless...
[03:52] <notNicolas> Can I backup the contents of a USB drive, turn it into a ubuntu installation USB, install ubuntu, erase everything from the USB and copy back all the stuff I had on it?
[03:52] <djmaster> help i run 3 linux and it has firestarter as a firewall   r there better fierwalls for linux
[03:52] <KM0201> !iptables | dj
[03:53] <djmaster> 3 computers (left it out)
[03:53] <sirfartsalotzSti> grub is pretty straight forward and am using control center to edit it
[03:53] <KM0201> djmaster: see above
[03:53] <sirfartsalotzSti> i meant start up manager interface
[03:53] <Senix> bazhang: I have fixed my issue, It seems that there was a couple of packages that i didn't install to begin with.
[03:54] <Smackwho> notNicolas as long as you dont overwrite the partition where you do the backup when you install Ubuntu
[03:55] <pie_> is there a way to view the metadata of windows executable files such as version nubmber, descripption, etc?
[03:55] <pie_> exes, dlls and such tend to have them
[03:55] <sirfartsalotzSti> what folder can i find the executables for all my apps like firefox e.t.c
[03:56] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: I can't test it but I would check following: set session type to unix-custom and change the config file in line 496. to start a LXDE session with  setting  DEFAULT_X_WM="" to  /path/to/lxsession-lite
[03:56] <djmaster> sirfartsalotzSti,  fille system usr/bin
[03:57] <sirfartsalotzSti> thx sir
[03:57] <sylvyor> so, what I have is a natty server installed on an older box which I am trying to i-net connect through a dynex wireless router to a verizon westell which is the dsl connection to the internet.  I do have a Laptop and a Desktop (Natty also) that are connected W/L already... any help out there for this?
[03:59] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Okie :)  I'll see what I can do.  I would just use gnome, but since its a VPS, I am trying to do GUI as simple as possible.  If I go over resources, it doesn't get slow... It just uses more and the hosting co that I have just makes this face: $v$
[03:59] <sylvyor> ... and a glass of wine...
[04:00] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/618763/ any idea if this worked or not?
[04:00] <schnuffle> Sanctusorium: here'S a solution: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/9nunmjC95AqDvMLCzP0J
[04:00] <Phong_> guys, you have to help me on this, i can't get usb wifi to connect to my network..it keep on trying and trying and failed
[04:01] <Phong_> this is very annoying, cause i know my usb wifi works, because it works in Windows 7
[04:01] <Sanctusorium> schnuffle: Alright!  You are awesome! :D
[04:01] <monkey1883> what brand is it?
[04:01] <Phong_> me?
[04:01] <monkey1883> yes
[04:01] <Phong_> tenda and Belkin
[04:01] <Phong_> i tried both
[04:01] <Phong_> and both aren't connect, but it works fine in windows.
[04:01] <monkey1883> hav you tried installing any drivers?
[04:01] <KM0201> Phong_: whats the chipsets on them... ? my belkin works fine, plug it in, "just works"
[04:02] <Phong_> monkey1883, driver?
[04:02] <Phong_> i dont know much about ubuntu man
[04:02] <izinucs> Ok.. I can see my launcher bar and the fact that Firefox is running but minimized.. It won't allow me to bring it forward.. how do I fix that?
[04:02] <Phong_> monkey1883, my phylosophy is that if it works on windows, it should work on ubuntu or any OS
[04:03] <monkey1883> Phong_ what are some things that are written on the belkin?
[04:03] <Phong_> BELKIN N wirless
[04:03] <Phong_> ver: 1011
[04:03] <djmaster> bazhang, it wont work what do i do now?
[04:03] <sirfartsalotzSti> phong was it detected by ubuntu  when u plugged it in
[04:03] <sylvyor_> hmmm... I found a thing written on google about Belkin.
[04:04] <DrPenguin> Hello everyone! Have any onf u running Ubuntu 11.04 64bit been experiencing an abnormal number of lock ups and crashes?
[04:04] <Phong_> sylvyor_, i've tryied Tenda as well
[04:04] <Phong_> Tenda N 11
[04:04] <sylvyor_> I have a Belkin USB Wireless working on my Desktop
[04:04] <Phong_> both aren't working in ubuntu
[04:04] <sylvyor_> work beautifully
[04:04] <monkey1883> Phong_, what is the model? besides belkin n wireless?
[04:05] <Phong_> F5D8053
[04:05] <Phong_> monkey1883, i also have: tenda w311u
[04:05] <izinucs> I can't launch anything off the launcher bar. How do I reset it?
[04:06] <jonholio> Hello, I have a very simple question. Can anyone tell me why I can't use ctrl-q to quit applications when using 11.04?
[04:06] <izinucs> jonholio: try alt+F4
[04:06] <sylvyor_> hmmm.... I so saw this like a month a ago.... let me see if I saved the url for the fix... there is a thing that you have to do to get it to use another driver....
[04:07] <KM0201> Phong_: thats weird, i think mine is an 8053..
[04:07] <Phong_> it's F5D8053
[04:07] <KM0201> Phong_: well, yeah..
[04:07] <KM0201> pretty sure thats what mine is.
[04:08] <jonholio> izinucs: yep I know that works ok, but is a bit awkward compared to  ctrl-q
[04:08] <Phong_> KM0201, it keeps on connecting but never connect and failed
[04:08] <KM0201> hmm
[04:08] <izinucs> jonholio: never used that combo myself.. so I never got use to it.
[04:08] <notNicolas> whoa guys
[04:08] <KM0201> Phong_: have you tried setting you  network to "no security" and seeing if it will connect?
[04:08] <notNicolas> have you ever double clicked the icon at top left of the window?
[04:09] <sylvyor_> have you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382798
[04:09] <Phong_> KM0201, haven't try that yet
[04:09] <Phong_> lol
[04:09] <Konata> I have a complaint
[04:09] <monkey1883> Phong_:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382798&highlight=F5D8053 try this
[04:10] <sylvyor_> hahaha...Right on Monkey!
[04:10] <Konata> Running 10.04 in VMWare. Installed network-manager-openvpn along with dependencies earlier
[04:10] <Konata> Trying to configure the connection. I imported the client.ovpn file that I need.
[04:10] <Konata> For some reason, when I click Apply, close, and then reopen to edit the VPN connection again, the CA/User/etc. certificates are all replaced with directories
[04:11] <w30> jonholio, are you using Unity or compiz? if so use compiz config settings and change lt and F4 to ctrl q
[04:11] <TR4X> help.  How do I fix the choppy av playback for everything in lucid 64 bit?  Clean install, latest ISO, still broken.
[04:11] <KM0201> monkey1883: thats a good find.. looks pretty simple
[04:11] <Phong_> monkey1883, i have question about this line: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[04:11] <Phong_> does that need internet connection?
[04:11] <sylvyor_> 2 answers / 2 people = potentially good find... hahahaha
[04:11] <iush> everytime I connect my HP printer, i need to download and install it driver to make it work
[04:11] <jonholio> w30: I have tried in both Unity and classic Gnome and is the same in both.
[04:12] <monkey1883> Phong_: Have you had your Ubuntu computer hooked up to the internet at all? like with a cable?
[04:12] <Phong_> monkey1883, nope
[04:12] <sylvyor_> phong... yes... (assumed that you have a wired connections)
[04:12] <sylvyor_> sudo apt-get install will poll online....
[04:12] <Phong_> monkey1883, it' snot convenience for me,, how about this, i set my router not to use password
[04:12] <Phong_> and try to see if it is connect
[04:12] <Phong_> if it is, then i do the instruction okay?
[04:12] <monkey1883> would you be able to hook it up to the computer?
[04:12] <KM0201> Phong_: i doubt that will work, as it seems to be a driver issue.. it was just a thought.
[04:13] <KM0201> Phong_: you really need wired access to fix this problem.
[04:13] <w30> jonholio, are you using compiz in classic also?
[04:13] <Phong_> KM0201, i'll give it a try
[04:13] <KinglyCitrus> Hello, everyone.
[04:13] <sylvyor_> agree with KM
[04:13] <Phong_> ok i'll find a lone wire
[04:13] <Phong_> brb
[04:13] <sylvyor_> I had to wire in to get the right drivers for mine to work...
[04:13] <jonholio> w30: yep
[04:13] <sylvyor_> how are you connected now phong?
[04:13] <MishaFashionista> Hi there everyone, I have an HP envy and I was wondering if anyone could help me get the dual monitors working. The monitors program on ubuntu doesn't recognize anything out of the hdmi
[04:14] <KM0201> sylvyor_: my guess is, on another computer
[04:14] <w30> jonholio, then you should to edit compiz settings and change it
[04:14] <TR4X> help.  How do I fix the choppy av playback for everything in lucid 64 bit?  Clean install, latest ISO, still broken.
[04:14] <sylvyor_> KM... yeah... been there too... ;)
[04:15] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in bib and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:15] <sylvyor_> I wired in from the comp that I was having the wireless prob on and was able to get the drivers that I needed by being wired in...
[04:15] <sylvyor_> otherwise, it's driver, dependency hell
[04:15] <monkey1883> sylvyor: yeah, that was my idea
[04:16] <w30> jonholio, ctrl q isn't used anywhere else I don't think
[04:16] <jonholio> w30: thanks I will try that. Seems a bit silly to need to have to do it though.
[04:16] <sirfartsalotzSti> but then it open up with new user profile , my bookmarks e.t.c are all missing since profile is admin when it opened
[04:16] <KM0201> sylvyor_: unfortunately, thats the one bad thing, about most drivers, software, etc.. being in online repos.
[04:16] <w30> jonholio, this Unity thing gets sillier every day *sigh*
[04:16] <KinglyCitrus> Anyone know much about streaming pulseaudio over ssh? Been poking around different channels trying to figure it out...
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> Anyone know how to get dual monitors working on an ati 5650
[04:18] <monkey1883> Is there anyone here that likes Unity? I, for one, do(works better on my netbook, which is my primary computer)
[04:18] <sylvyor_> so... I am looking for a way to connect a wireless router to another wireless router (which is my i-net connection)... got like 4 comps that need an access point via wireless...
[04:18] <notNicolas> uhhmmm
[04:18] <notNicolas> can I INSTALL ubuntu ONTO a computer using a USB installation, or can I only run it from the USB?
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> You can bridge a router
[04:18] <jonholio> Argh ccsm won't  let me set <Control>q as the Close Window binding.
[04:18] <monkey1883> sylvyor_: like, do want a repeater?
[04:18] <MishaFashionista> You can install and run it
[04:18] <w30> jonholio, I think Conical hired a bunch of MS and Mac coders and are trying to make them play nice together
[04:19] <notNicolas> ok, good.
[04:19] <TR4X> anyone know anything about pulseaudio's problems?
[04:19] <jonholio> monkey1883: I think it's not too bad. Apart from this ctrl-q thing!
[04:19] <sylvyor_> KM, yeah... I beat my head against that wall for about a day before I realized that running 75 ft of wire was easier than trying to figure out how to get it to work w/l
[04:19] <TR4X> Has anyone had any solution to choppy audio/video playback in 10.04?
[04:20] <KM0201> sylvyor_: lol
[04:20] <monkey1883> jonholio: were you trying to trick me, or something?
[04:20] <sylvyor_> monkey... hadn't thought of that...
[04:20] <KinglyCitrus> Yea, basically, I've got a headless server running in a VM, bridged to the network. X over SSH works fine to run remote programs on my laptop, but I'm having difficulty configuring the audio setup correctly.
[04:20] <excedere> TR4X, proper video drivers installed?
[04:20] <MishaFashionista> sylvyor you can bridge one router so then you can use it as an access point kinda
[04:20] <TR4X> excedere: yes.  installed and activates.
[04:20] <jonholio> monkey1883: no no, I have a problem with my Ubuntu where control-q doesn't quit applications.
[04:21] <monkey1883> jonholio: really? that's weird. it works for me
[04:21] <excedere> TR4X, tried another player?  I have issues sometimes with VLC, but parole works flawlessly
[04:21] <TR4X> excedere: a/v works fine in natty on my machine, but I'm demonstrating the LTS to my boss for potential deployment
[04:22] <Samatros> I have a theory that modelines have no effect over HDMI on an intel GM45 chipset. Is there any way to verify this theory?
[04:22] <MishaFashionista> Later guys
[04:22] <jonholio> monkey1883: yeah it's very frustrating.
[04:22] <TR4X> I just can't fix the a/v issue in 10.04
[04:22] <sylvyor_> Misha: that's where I was headed next...
[04:22] <sylvyor_> thanks
[04:22] <TR4X> it seems to be a pulseaudio problem, although i'm not sure
[04:22] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in bib and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:23] <TR4X> excedere: I've tried every player I can think of.  Even the mighty mplayer is fail.
[04:23] <sylvyor_> Haven't gotten into bridging yet... any good links out there?
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201, hi brother
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201, i got it work by a link that show me
[04:23] <phong_> KM0201,  no need internet at all
[04:23] <monkey1883> jonholio: do u use alt-f4 much? if not, you can go to "keyboard shortcuts" and
[04:23] <KM0201> phong_: good, but i didn't show it.. someone else did.
[04:24] <phong_> KM0201, i got my Tenda w311u working now...works like a charm
[04:24] <KM0201> good.
[04:24] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in /usr/bin and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:24] <sylvyor_> awesome... success !!!!
[04:24] <phong_> it's about sudo gedit ......./blacklist.conf
[04:24] <sylvyor_> haha... forgot about the blacklist thing....
[04:24] <sylvyor_> :D
[04:24] <excedere> TR4X, strange indeed.. what kind of video hardware are you running?
[04:24] <monkey1883> jonholio: then change "close window" under window management to ctrl-q
[04:24] <phong_> KM0201, all i have to do is add blacklist  xxxxxxx 3 lines of codes
[04:24] <KM0201> hmm, ok
[04:24] <sylvyor_> man, once the KT goes by... it goes away...
[04:25] <TR4X> excedere: I've noticed the choppiness corresponds to spikes in cpu usage for some gvfs processes and pulseaudio.
[04:25] <phong_> KM0201, i'll try to figure out the belkin
[04:25] <phong_> KM0201, can my pc connect 2 usb wirless?
[04:25] <KM0201> phong_: possibly, but i'd leave well enough alone
[04:25] <tsok> OctoByte, you there?
[04:25] <phong_> why?
[04:26] <TR4X> excedere: I'm pretty sure it's not the video hardware Nvidia gts250
[04:26] <sylvyor_> will work on bridging tomorrow...
[04:26] <KM0201> you don't wanna start having driver conflicts, etc
[04:26] <phong_> let me try the other one
[04:26] <phong_> okay
[04:26] <sylvyor_> agrees with KM...
[04:26] <TR4X> excedere: it does the same thing with audio files..
[04:26] <phong_> let me try belkin.brb
[04:26] <Samatros> Is there a channel specific to Intel Graphics?
[04:26] <jonholio> monkey1883: I have tried that and it won't let me set it as control q unfortunately.
[04:26] <sylvyor_> KM: Phong's gonna break the sys by trying too hard...
[04:27] <tsok> .
[04:27] <bazhang> !alis | Samatros
[04:27] <Samatros> bazhang: Thanks!
[04:27] <KM0201> sylvyor_: lol, well, at least he knows how what to do when he has to reinstall
[04:27] <phong_> KM0201, lol both works now
[04:28] <KM0201> phong_: that means they likely use the same driver
[04:28] <phong_> KM0201, u meant i don't need to install driver for each brand ?
[04:28] <phong_> lol
[04:28] <phong_> KM0201, nicely..both are working ;)
[04:28] <KM0201> apparently not, they must have the same chipset/driver.
[04:28] <phong_> i c
[04:28] <sylvyor_> KM: Luck Dragon has given Phong a coin!
[04:28] <phong_> golden coin
[04:28] <sylvyor_> :)
[04:29] <phong_> sylvyor, my feed skin are cracking..i am so hurt
[04:29] <phong_> :(
[04:29] <phong_> drying skin ;(
[04:29] <Ashtray777> Can anyone tell me how to get a remote file using scp when my ssh server uses rsa authentication?
[04:29] <sylvyor_> no need for hurt phong... all is good fun.
[04:29] <sirfartsalotzSti> oh yes fellas remember whe i said i believe reason my firefox is not opening might due to file permission? reason is I can right click firefox in /usr/bin and choose open as admim and it opens
[04:29] <monkey1883> jonholio: sorry, don't know what to tell ya
[04:29] <sirfartsalotzSti> any ideas?
[04:30] <jonholio> monkey1883: don't worry, I will survive :) I appreciate your help.
[04:30] <excedere> TR4X, I googled.. most of the links seem to point to conflicts with certain audio drivers and pulseaudio
[04:31] <excedere> hopefully someone with more audio knowledge than myself can chime in
[04:31] <sylvyor_> excedere: what OS installation?
[04:31] <sylvyor_> just catching up with the audio convo.
[04:32] <excedere> sylvyor_, TR4X is on 10.03 I believe
[04:32] <[deXter]> Hi all, is there a way to make a gnome panel stay on desktop such that other windows can cover it or maximize over it?
[04:32] <monkey1883> anyone know of a good source for learning about the terminal/bash scripting? i have some basic knowledge, but i feel that with linux as my primary operating system, i should learn more. i've been using linux on and off for years, but now i only use windows for itunes
[04:32] <TR4X> sylvyor_: 10.04 AMD64
[04:32] <sylvyor_> let me read back a bit
[04:33] <bazhang> !abs > monkey1883
[04:33] <[deXter]> monkey1883: iTunes can be run under Linux using Wine.
[04:33] <phong_> KM0201, i just want to tell you that i really love ubuntu
[04:33] <TR4X> sylvyor_: latest ISO. downloaded and installed yesterday.
[04:33] <phong_> KM0201, and i want to let you know, i hate Mac..fuking mac
[04:33] <KM0201> phong_: lol, well i'm glad
[04:33] <KM0201> ..
[04:33] <TR4X> sylvyor_: recently updated
[04:34] <bazhang> phong_, watch the cursing
[04:34] <monkey1883> [deXter]: I know, but I cannot sync my iPod that way
[04:35] <[deXter]> monkey1883: Ah, if you just want it for syncing your iPod, there are other alternatives..
[04:35] <phong_> KM0201, i notice that Ubuntu runs faster then windows
[04:35] <nickjohn1on> Is anyone able to lend me a hand with a raid boot issue?
[04:36] <KM0201> phong_: typically...
[04:36] <djmaster> monkey1883. try armorack
[04:36] <monkey1883> [deXter]: Not currently. I have an iPod touch with iOS 4.3, and i haven't found anything simple that works
[04:36] <sylvyor_> TR4X: are you running Ubuntu Studio specifically?
[04:36] <nickjohn1on> I have four disks, each identically partitioned. The boot partition is RAID1, and the rest is RAID5. I recently upgraded to bigger drives online, by replacing and rebuilding the array after each drive
[04:36] <TR4X> sylvyor_: No.  default desktop install
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> Now when I boot, I get kicked out to an initramfs shell because it can't set up the array correctly. When I look at /proc/mdstat, it shows it's somehow assembled a single raid5 array from the whole drive (not the partitions), which obviously doesn't work
[04:37] <djmaster> my bad armarok
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> mdadm --stop /dev/md1; mdadm --assemble --scan; fixes it fine, though
[04:37] <nickjohn1on> Does anyone know why this happens, and what I can do to fix it?
[04:37] <phong_> KM0201,  is it good idea to instal WINE?
[04:37] <sylvyor_> hmm.. you might have better luck getting you HW running with Studio because they set up configs to target video and audio hardware that default doesn't
[04:38] <sylvyor_> I am running studio on my laptop and it can handle just about anything (AMD64)
[04:38] <monkey1883> djmaster: do you mean amarok?
[04:39] <sylvyor_> where as my desktop (32b-default) would have to be manipulated like hell to get some of the basic audio fun running)
[04:39] <TR4X> sylvyor_: can't be done, I'm demonstrating it for an office environment.
[04:39] <sylvyor_> oooh.
[04:39] <sylvyor_> hmm...
[04:39] <sylvyor_> {tapping fingers}
[04:39] <djmaster> monkey1883, yes keybored all messed upp
[04:40] <monkey1883> djmaster: ok haha
[04:40] <TR4X> sylvyor_: requires pulseaudio for simultaneous VOIP and media playback, otherwise it won't even get a loook in.
[04:40] <TR4X> djmaster: studio uses jack AFAIK.
[04:40] <djmaster> TR4X, ?
[04:41] <sylvyor_> Jack rocks...
[04:41] <TR4X> djmaster: ?
[04:41] <djmaster> TR4X, ??
[04:41] <sylvyor_> at one point, I had jack, hooked into a windows incarnation of reason... that was sick...
[04:41] <sylvyor_> anyway...
[04:42] <sylvyor_> TR4X, what's your drop off point?
[04:42] <TR4X> bawww, s**ts me to tears.
[04:42] <sylvyor_> when are things hitting the fan?
[04:42] <acovrig> I know this isn't *the* place to ask, but does anyone know how to loop through an array and write each value to a file in c++ (or give me a channel name)?
[04:42] <TR4X> sylvyor_: no deadline yet
[04:43] <sylvyor_> hmmm.
[04:43] <djmaster> how do u run multi screan in xfce?
[04:43] <TR4X> acovrig: #c++
[04:43] <laverne_> i've finally had it with windows and i'm ready to take the linux plunge. anything i should know/do before i install ubuntu 11.04?
[04:43] <TR4X> sylvyor_: It should just work.  Natty works, but it's not LTS so not an option
[04:43] <excedere> djmaster, what video card do you have?
[04:43] <acovrig> TR4X: thanks-I thought I tried that :)
[04:44] <nickjohn1on> My question in one place. Help would be _much_ appreciated: http://serverfault.com/questions/277085/linux-fails-to-reassemble-raid-array-after-disk-upgrade
[04:44] <sylvyor_> yeah... TR4X... i know... I am tryin to think through what could be stopping it...
[04:44] <djmaster> excedere,  idk its the dell latitude c640 defult
[04:45] <TR4X> !pastebin
[04:45] <sylvyor_> it's almost like you would have to write the code that already exists non LTS to get them to buy in...
[04:45] <excedere> djmaster, You'll need to find that out since each config is likely going to be dependent on what hardware you're running
[04:46] <excedere> djmaster, The laziest thing to do would be to enter the service tag at dell.com and view the hardware specs
[04:46] <TR4X> sylvyor_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/618804/ that's my hardware
[04:46] <djmaster> excedere,  well its a pci if that helps
[04:46] <sylvyor_> TR4X: I work in the enterprise industry myself so i know your frustration...
[04:47] <excedere> chances are its intel,
[04:47] <TR4X> sylvyor_: yeah I know, I was only planning to pitch some cheap workstations, but they need top notch a/v
[04:47] <phong_> i love this channel
[04:48] <pietr101> hello guys, i'm having some trouble with one of my harddrives. smart says it's ok, but i get dmesg errors (http://pastebin.com/rrPFaTAh) can anyone pls tell me what is going on?
[04:49] <sirfartsalotzSti> ok can someone do me a favor PLS . in their /usr/bin folder can u check the permission for ur firefox for me . Mine shows owner and group and i don't see permission for users in mine
[04:49] <phong_> does CloneZilla boot from usb?
[04:49] <phong_> i wish clonezilla has usb boot
[04:49] <TR4X> sylvyor_: I wonder if it's a kernel issue.  might have a look for bugs in the modules
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: it can usb boot.
[04:50] <sylvyor_> TR4X: depends on if they are trying to serve Enterprise level or Public Market...
[04:50] <sylvyor_> h,,,...
[04:50] <sylvyor_> hmm.
[04:50] <phong_> KM0201, really how?
[04:50] <phong_> KM0201, cause right now i boot from CD
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: how?
[04:50] <sylvyor_> LTS will be slimmed for public ...
[04:50] <phong_> i download the clonezilla and burn to CD
[04:51] <sylvyor_> might not be a bug...
[04:51] <KM0201> ok.. download the ISO..
[04:51] <KM0201> google "unetbootin"   and use unetbootin to unpack it to a thumb drive so you can boot it... should work just fine
[04:51] <sylvyor_> perhaps a designed limitation...
[04:51] <Senix> how do i add artist names, album name, and album art to music in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:51] <sirfartsalotzSti> ok can someone do me a favor PLS . in their /usr/bin folder can u check the permission for ur firefox for me . Mine shows owner and group and i don't see permission for users in mine
[04:51] <sirfartsalotzSti> anyone?
[04:51] <TR4X> sylvyor_: Well, I don't know anyone who would want to plug this into their tv with this appalling playback.  I noticed canonical had put an advert on the pulseaudio website for an audio programmer.
[04:52] <Senix> sirfartsalotzSti: pls don't use talk liek dis pl0x
[04:52] <sylvyor_>  that could ba a selling point come to think of it...
[04:52] <mrdeb> TR4X: did they? about time
[04:52] <mrdeb> maybe linux sound will be fixed some day
[04:52] <laverne_> hmmm...maybe i won't. thanks for all the help
[04:52] <Senix> sirfartsalotzSti: and please restate your problem i don't quite understand.
[04:52] <sylvyor_> yeah... I've been off of PA for a while... though when PA came out... it was the HS..
[04:53] <sylvyor_> things change so fast in tech.
[04:53] <TR4X> mrdeb: well, I don't think Shuttleworth's goal of 200m users will be achieved if ubuntu can't play a simple video
[04:54] <pietr101> hello guys, i'm having some trouble with one of my harddrives. smart says it's ok, but i get dmesg errors (http://pastebin.com/rrPFaTAh) can anyone pls tell me what is going on?
[04:55] <TR4X> starting to rage.  going down for another clean install and trying to find if it's a package that is causing the problem.
[04:55] <Vectory> If pppoe is configured, does that mess with the dhcp i usual use?
[04:55] <w30> sirfartsalotzSti, mine is a simlink to firefox.sh which is owned by root and group root and exec for everyone but read only by root and root group
[04:55] <mrdeb> TR4X: it can play it with VLC
[04:55] <TR4X> mrdeb:  too choppy to watch.
[04:56] <TR4X> TR4X: same with mplayer
[04:56] <mrdeb> if ubuntu didnt have vlc, it would lose millions of users
[04:56] <mrdeb> vlc makes or breaks a distro
[04:56] <sylvyor_> hehe... TR4X: that's ubuntu can't play a simple video (using n conditions with a LTS (limited system) on an audio architecture that's pretty friggin complicated...
[04:56] <Vectory> Totem is usually good enough
[04:57] <sirfartsalotzSti> pietr101 looks like sector errors , don't quote me though cos am not an expert
[04:57] <TR4X> sylvyor_: ha yes, I now have a feeling it might be the KDE compatibility stuff that's causing this.
[04:57] <mrdeb> KDE is not all that compatible
[04:57] <sylvyor_> eh... VLC....
[04:57] <sylvyor_> TR4X.... really... KDE?
[04:57] <sylvyor_> nah
[04:57] <pietr101> sirfartsalotzSti: any advice how to get sure?
[04:57] <sylvyor_> never...
[04:57] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: It got worse when I installed kvirc and ktorrent
[04:57] <tsok> After installing GRUB2 after a windows 7 install I get the error that the file "\NST\AutoNeoGrub0.mbr" is not found or corrupt, any help?
[04:57] <djmaster> excedere,  brb im geting it
[04:58] <sylvyor_> kde is perfect (can you smell the sarcasm dripping to the floor)?
[04:58] <sirfartsalotzSti> piet no
[04:58] <RevT> Kphuqued
[04:58] <sylvyor_> k = kill?
[04:58] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: it might not be the root of the problem, but it may give me an idea as to why pulseaudio can't handle... too many connections or some such
[04:58] <sirfartsalotzSti>  i know if a hard drive is failing , the data in that sector will be moved to another sector , that is as much as i know
[04:58] <madsailor> I am trying to import a pdf on natty with the default libre office, and having no luck.  The Libre office site says PDF import is standards v3.3 or later, but my file isn't importing correctly.  Is this related to non-free issues, or is there something else I am missing?
[04:58] <mrdeb> kde is good for about 5 minutes. then you realize it offers decreased usability compared to gnome 2
[04:59] <sirfartsalotzSti>  thx w38 for the firefox permission
[04:59] <mrdeb> TR4X: what cant it handle
[04:59] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb: I'm using the default gnome, but just installed some KDE packages.  It made it even worse.
[04:59] <nit-wit> tsok, you using easybcd?
[04:59] <tsok> nit-wit: I have it on my windows 7 install but I can not boot to it.
[05:00] <mrdeb> TR4X: just play one sound at a time
[05:00] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: I have a hunch that when lots of processes are accessing it, it can't handle.
[05:00] <excedere> Depending on your target audience, XFCE is probably the most idiot proof
[05:00] <nit-wit> tsok, I'm not familiar with it.
[05:00] <sirfartsalotzSti> Senix , my issue is i cannot open my firefox using my regular user profile . But if i right click firefox .exec in usr/bin and choose run as administrator , it opens
[05:00] <sylvyor_> yeah... the threads get heavy when the kde libraries get involved.
[05:01] <sirfartsalotzSti>  but the firefox that opens is a brand new profile missing my bookmarks and my setting since it was launched as administartor
[05:01] <bobsomebody> anyone in here running xbox live through an iptables masq nat?
[05:01] <TR4X> mrdeb: even when I am only playing one sound, several process are still interacting with pulse.
[05:01] <phong_> KM0201, how to install 7z
[05:02] <phong_> when i start the usb create thing it ask that i dont have 7z
[05:02] <Vectory> Can noone answer my pppoe q?
 really don't know if u can fix that cos it's just a bad sector on ur harddrive
[05:02] <mrdeb> TR4X: so it slows down, yes?
[05:02] <bobsomebody> TR4X, is that a pulse audio error? I get that all the time playing back music on rythmbox
[05:02] <phong_> KM0201, nevermind i got it
[05:02] <mrdeb> the problem is that audio in linux is tied to the main processes for some reason
[05:03] <Vectory> Im online using my handy, its expensive
[05:03] <mrdeb> the kernel should be divided up to separate key process types like audio and video, and other cpu tasks
[05:03] <sirfartsalotzSti>  think of it like playing music on old LP ,it will continue to skip  if ur record player pins goes thru that groove
[05:03] <TR4X> sylvyor_: mrdeb:  and I'm using a 3.4ghz quad core, it glitches or skips chunks of audio, which also interferes with video playback as the decoder tries to sync output.
[05:03] <pietr101> sirfartsalotzSti: i just bought the disk two weeks ago. do you think i can return it for replacement?
[05:03] <sirfartsalotzSti> but if u don't play that groove then there is no skip
[05:03] <mrdeb> TR4X: it's not the hardware. it's linux
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti> u might be better off returning it if u still can
[05:04] <TR4X> mrdeb: yes, I understand that.
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti>  cos it will not get better
[05:04] <sylvyor_> TR4X... honestly, it sounds like your best bet is to start from scratch... as painful as that is... you might be better off building the system from ground up than trying to solve the issues that are caused by dependent libraries.
[05:04] <phong_> KM0201, u there?
[05:04] <TR4X> sylvyor_: Yes, I tried that.  Fresh install yesterday.  same problem
[05:04] <sirfartsalotzSti>  might not get worse either but your computer will not write anything to that sector again
[05:04] <mrdeb> it plays fine for the most part, but you will have skipping
[05:04] <mrdeb> it doesnt even matter which distro
[05:04] <TR4X> mrdeb: and rage.
[05:05] <sylvyor_> if you can't use studio then start with a vanillia install / no audio and work your way up from there...
[05:05] <phong_> KM0201, UNetbootin, i am confused about "Space used to preserve files across reboots (Ubuntu Only)" what is this?
[05:05] <TR4X> mrdeb: natty works perfectly
[05:05] <mrdeb> TR4X: with what
[05:05] <sylvyor_> hmm...
[05:05] <TR4X> mrdeb: sylvyor_: natty works perfectly for a/v on the same hardware.