[00:00] <ActionPa1snip> Ycarene: I hate that 1337 rubbish, so pointless
[00:00] <wolfgang_> Rallias, wouldnt know i always get the updates though so prob not
[00:00] <wolfgang_> Why did sony change there mind about yellow dog linux on the ps3?
[00:00] <l337ingDisorder> Basic NVIDIA question here: I just hooked up a TV so I have two video outputs. Both are working, but I have it set to TwinView and it seems to just be extending the desktop instead of cloning it... Is there a way to make it clone the output exactly? Both displays have the same resolution
[00:00] <Rallias> wolfgang_, There are ways, but all that I know how to do are illegal, so not to be shared on this channel.
[00:00] <wolfgang_> Rallias, Oh ok
[00:00] <IdleOne> wolfgang_: PS3/Sony and yellowdog are all offtopic.
[00:01] <IdleOne> please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:01] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: XBOX360 has 512Mb, so could run Lubuntu I guess
[00:01] <wolfgang_> IdleOne, Your mean
[00:01] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, Does ubuntu have an active CELL port?
[00:01] <IdleOne> wolfgang_: I've been called worse. Doesn't change the fact that this is not a chat channel.
[00:01] <zykotick9> wolfgang_: incorrect about IdleOne
[00:01] <l337ingDisorder> IdleOne is heartless ;)
[00:01] <ActionPa1snip> Rallias: no idea, I've heard something but it was a long time ago
[00:02] <wolfgang_> zykotick, :D
[00:02] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, So far as I know, it hasn't been maintained since ~ 9.04
[00:02] <ActionPa1snip> Rallias: yep, 3 years, sounds about right
[00:02] <Rallias> Altho I've got a blade I wish I could install ubuntu server on D:
[00:03] <l337ingDisorder> So can anyone explain why TwinView isn't doing what it says it's supposed to?
[00:03] <l337ingDisorder> (ubu 12.04)
[00:04] <ActionPa1snip> l337ingDisorder: what video chip?
[00:04] <wolfgang_> BYE!
[00:04] <l337ingDisorder> ActionPa1snip: GeForce 8500 GT
[00:05] <ActionPa1snip> l337ingDisorder: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[00:05] <l337ingDisorder> ActionPa1snip: It is putting output to both displays but it's not cloning, it's just extending
[00:05] <l337ingDisorder> ActionPa1snip: yep
[00:05] <zykotick9> l337ingDisorder: twinview is nvidia's propritary version of xinerama (2 displays acting as 1) - select clone instead
[00:05] <ActionPa1snip> l337ingDisorder: if you use nvidia-settings you can set to mirror afaik
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> zykotick9: there's no "Clone" there's "Separate X screen" and "TwinView"
[00:06] <zykotick9> l337ingDisorder: neither separate nor twinview is what you want...
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> oooh
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> wait
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> found it!
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> it wasn't in that dropdown..
[00:06] <l337ingDisorder> you need to choose "TwinView" and then in the "Position" dropdown you choose "Clone" instead of "Right of" or "Left of"
[00:07] <l337ingDisorder> nevertheless thanks for the help guys! :D
[00:07] <ActionPa1snip> np :)
[00:11] <yannickoo> Hey guys, is it possible to move the .ssh directory because I have only access to my /var/www/webX directory and I need to do some scp stuff.
[00:11] <Muelli> yannickoo: yes
[00:11] <yannickoo> And I don't have the permission to create a .ssh dir.
[00:11] <Muelli> then probably no
[00:11] <yannickoo> Muelli: :(
[00:12] <yannickoo> Muelli: why i not just set the path to the .ssh directory in the scp command? ;)
[00:12] <Muelli> yannickoo: well. The server deciced where to look for your public keys. And if it is configured to look in a directory you cannot write to, you cannot do anything. Rightfully so.
[00:12] <yannickoo> Uh yeah! "Specifies an alternative per-user configuration file for ssh."
[00:12] <yannickoo> the "F" parameter
[00:13] <yannickoo> and "i" - idendity file
[00:14] <Pyrrha_> Question about Unity - can you disable the icon shaking thing? In the left side panel.
[00:14] <yannickoo> but i need that in the ssh-keygen command
[00:15] <laserlion> Hi. I'm trying to make a desktop launcher to run a script. Is there a location which these must be stored, or can I just place them wherever I want?
[00:17] <Muelli> hm laserlion. You can put a .desktop file onto the ~/Desktop I think. If you want it in the launcher thing, try ~/.local/share/applications/
[00:18] <laserlion> Ok, thanks. What about the actual .sh file? Just somewhere put, so the launcher doesn't look in the wrong directory?
[00:19] <L3top> The launcher should look wherever you tell it to.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> laserlion,  if you want it to show in your menus theres a .config/applications directory I think.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> laserlion,  the actual .sh. i wouldput in /home/yourusername/bin
[00:19] <Muelli> laserlion: the program you want to launch may be located anywhere. Just check that the execution bit is set
[00:20] <zykotick9> laserlion: fyi if scripts if you put them in ~/bin they'll be in your path as well (you need to logout/login for it to work after creating ~/bin)
[00:21] <laserlion> I'm sorry, zykotick. Can you explain what 'they'll be in my path' means? :)
[00:22] <zykotick9> laserlion: it means you could execute it from anywhere, and the shell will find it...
[00:22] <laserlion> Also, thanks for your answers Muelli and Dr_willis!
[00:22] <zykotick9> !tab > laserlion
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Time to check up on bash basics about the PATH variable. :)
[00:24] <zykotick9> laserlion: (just in case) ~ means your home directory (so both myself and Dr_willis suggested teh same thing)
[00:25] <laserlion> zykotick9: thanks, I got it now! :)
[00:25] <zykotick9> laserlion: tab to - nice ;)
[00:36] <zytter> hi
[00:36] <LLU> Fellow linux ubuntu!  If i've got a file/folder in lets say "/home/user/" with the name "[*] file name" want that copied to "/home/user/*" with the name "file name" Do you know a script what will do something like this?
[00:38] <Dr_willis> LLU,  you mean you hae an actual '[*]' in the file name somehow?
[00:38] <LLU> no
[00:38] <LLU> just that could be everything
[00:38] <LLU> not really an astrix
[00:39] <Dr_willis> give examples... ;)
[00:39] <escott> LLU, the "rename" utility (which is actually just a perl script) might help
[00:41] <L3top> LLU: Please give an actual example.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> I find the 'qmv' command handy.. but its a little unusual in how it works.
[00:42] <dunpeal> How do I make a custom .desktop shortcut appear in Dash?
[00:42] <ActionPa1snip> you can escape the asterisk and it will be treated as a character, rather than a glob and rename it
[00:42] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: copy it to /usr/share/applications
[00:42] <Dr_willis> dunpeal,  you copy it to the proper directory in your home. I think its under .config or .local (not on ubuntu so icant check)
[00:42] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: I did... still not there.
[00:42] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: I copied it to .local/share/applications
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Unless you want it System wide for all users.. then see above. you MAY need to logout/back in or restart unity.
[00:43] <LLU> i've got a folder in /var/hda/files/drives/drive6/torrents which is named [Muziek]top2000 and a file [Films]50.50 and i want the folder [Muziek]top2000 to the folder /var/hda/files/drives/drive6/Muziek/top2000 and the file [Films]50.50 to the folder /var/hda/files/drives/drive6/Films
[00:43] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: copy it to /usr/share/application
[00:43] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: is there a way to refresh the cache?
[00:43] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: copy it to /usr/share/applications    sorry
[00:43] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: you could log off and on I guess
[00:43] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: any way to refresh the cache without logoff/on?
[00:44] <Dr_willis> LLU,  you most likelky need to do your own scripting for that.  or get fancy with a bash command line. :)
[00:44] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: try pressing ALT+F2 and run: r
[00:45] <zykotick9> LLU: use \ to escape.  like "\[Muzietk\]top2000" or use double Quotes "[Muzietk]top2000"
[00:45] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: "r" and Enter?!
[00:45] <dunpeal> the program "r"?
[00:45] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: if memory serves, yes
[00:45] <L3top> mv ./\[Fi* /var/hda/files/drives/drive6/Films   from the directory the subdir is in.
[00:45] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: just r
[00:45] <Dr_willis> dunpeal,  thats how to 'restart'  I belive in gnome3/unity  its like a fancy hotkey. not an actual command.
[00:45] <L3top> mv ./\[Fi* /var/hda/files/drives/drive6/Films from the directory the subdir is in. @ LLU
[00:45] <ActionPa1snip> Dr_willis: thanks :). Wasn't 100%
[00:46] <zykotick9> L3top: ./ is redundant
[00:46] <Dr_willis> ActionPa1snip,  but i think that may be gnome-shell only. Not unity
[00:46] <ActionPa1snip> Dr_willis: lets see :D
[00:46] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip, Dr_willis: I press Alt+f2. Dash comes up. I press r, nothing happens :(
[00:46] <dunpeal> think I may need to restart.
[00:46] <LLU> but these will not be the only files that will come in that directory and that I would like to be moved
[00:46] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: could run:  unity --replace
[00:47] <LLU> L3top: so is there a way i just can add a script to the crontab and that I will be done with it?
[00:47] <L3top> zykotick9: I believe you are correct, just wasn't sure what starting  with an escape would do, but I know that ./ will be in the right place.
[00:48] <L3top> LLU it seems smarter to change how this continues to be created than to check constantly... and you would want the contents of the folder to just be moved I would expect, rather than continually trying to overwrite a folder with another...
[00:49] <ghostchick> ActionPa1snip,dunpeal,  actually i use setsuid unity (dont know about eventual critics
[00:49] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: that messed up my desktop
[00:49] <dunpeal> anyway, restarting works, but I thought this isn't windows :(
[00:49] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: it makes unity reload
[00:49] <zykotick9> LLU: if you blindly move files at a pre-determined time - mv'ing them could be bad if they're being written to - you might corrupt stuff...
[00:50] <ActionPa1snip> dunpeal: restarts can be beneficial
[00:50] <dunpeal> ActionPa1snip: unless anyone has any better suggestions, I think that's how I'm going to do it from now on
[00:50] <tr3nton> restart doesn't take forever - like in windows, anyway ;)
[00:51] <L3top> Assuming that you do not have the ability to change that folder creation LLU, I would preserve both files and move the content if, as zykotick9 says, it is not being written, so you would want to check its modified time and bar it from moving within the last, say 20 min.
[00:51] <L3top> s/both files/both folders/
[00:52] <ghostchick> dunpeal,  setsuid unity in alt-f2
[00:52] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: "restarts can be beneficial" lol that's funny - 99.999% since may 19, because of 1 instance i couldn't figure out what was going wrong with my system ;)
[00:52]  * L3top is having difficulty with English atm, but hopefully you understood what I was trying to say. Do not move it if it has been touched wtihin the last 20 minutes.
[00:52] <ghostchick> dunpeal,  sorry setsid unity
[00:52] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: but the reboot fixed it ;)
[00:53] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: loads new kernels and so on. Cleans ram real good. Lots of things
[00:53] <Mattias> how do I start pam_motd? It used to show, but now it stopped showing motd when I logon the ssh
[00:53] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, I agree on the "reboots are useful" bit. Every month on the 1st, servers get rebooted.
[00:53] <Mattias> aah nvm
[00:53] <ActionPa1snip> Rallias: sounds reasonable
[00:53] <Mattias> It doesn't show when I use mosh
[00:53] <Mattias> So how do I enable pam_motd for mosh?
[00:53] <Rallias> Except for 1 which has a client that ALWAYS compalins about reboots because he uses ssh tunnels for his web service.
[00:53] <LLU> zykotick9: nothing is using that path exept transmission and i will rename the folders/files when the donwloads are done. But it's on my NAS I would need to move then between samba shares and that is slow. But i don't want to use the command line every time a download has finshed.
[00:53] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: i agree with you - i'm just joking (sorry OT).  i just strive for stability over features.
[00:54] <Topher82> ok I've been googleing for a week and I'm stumped. Everything I can find says I don't need to partition my new SSD to install Kubuntu 12.04 correctly. But after every install it won't do an initial boot. I remember having to do somethig with 'noapci' the last time I installed before the HDD swap to the SSD. I'm just trying to figure out is this something I'm doing wrong in the install (i.e. somethig I need to do to the install to get it to
[00:54] <Rallias> Topher82, What told you you don't need to partition your ssd?
[00:54] <LLU> i didn't want to move it i would prefer copying because other wise i can't keep seeding the files
[00:54] <zykotick9> LLU: rtorrent with ssh is the best torrent solution i've personally come up with - but you gotta be ok with terminal apps
[00:55] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: it's cool. sometimes it fixes the weirdest things. Had a guy in earlier who's flash audio was faster than the vid. ne reboot later and all is ok
[00:55] <zykotick9> LLU: i just drop my torrents into a directory and they get downloaded, simple.
[00:55] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: i hate flash.  is that blue tint still an issue?
[00:56] <Topher82> well all the articles I read said if you are partitioning it into multiple partitions you have to format them the right ways. But if you are using the entire disk it's fine to jsut install.
[00:56] <zykotick9> ^ fix for blue tint is to disable 3d in the flash options (use fullscreen if required) FYI
[00:57] <Rallias> Topher82, You're better off using guided partitioning, not just "no partitioning".
[00:57] <zykotick9> Topher82: do you want to save anything or dual boot?
[00:57] <Topher82> no it's a fresh SSD and it's only for kubuntu :)
[00:58] <Rallias> Topher82, You NEED to partition it
[00:58] <zykotick9> Topher82: use the entire disk - simple ;)  (only my opinion)
[00:58] <LLU> zykotick9: I really like the webinterface of transmission but you can't say where it should download the files. So i can't do it with my torrent client
[00:58] <zykotick9> Rallias: i believe the installer is offering to autocreate a swap and / on the entire disk.
[00:59] <Rallias> yeah, that should be what's done.
[00:59] <zykotick9> LLU: sorry man - i obviously know little about transmission (it was never my favourite amoung the gui torrent clients either)
[00:59] <zykotick9> LLU: for web i used the lame old apache media thing... forget it's name
[00:59] <yannickoo> Hey guys, I want to transfer a directory via scp. I haven't permission to create the .ssh directory so I created a new config which contains "Host * UserKnownHostsFile XXX IdentiyFile XXX" and I setted the config file to the scp command via the F parameter: scp -F /var/www/webX/files/config html/ user@host:/var/www/virtual/foo/html/import – But I even get the message, that I don't have the permission create the .ssh directory. Any ideas?
[01:00] <Topher82> ok see that brings up the other question I was going to ask. should I create with no swap partition. to reduce the number of reads and writes?
[01:00] <noiro> hey guys, how do I make sure 3D acceleration is working properly? I have the driver installed (supposedly) based on additional drivers
[01:00] <Rallias> Topher82, How much ram do you have?
[01:00] <Topher82> I tried the OCZ forum but they aren't being useful at all lol.
[01:00] <Topher82> 4GB
[01:00] <escott> yannickoo, the existence/nonexistence of a .ssh directory should not affect your ability to scp
[01:00] <Rallias> You'll be fine with no swap.
[01:00] <bekks> Topher82: Not a vbox issue :)
[01:01] <LLU> zykotick9: If you would know the name that would be awesome! because I'm open to change
[01:01] <Topher82> ok cool. someone I work with told me some programs need a swap to work right.
[01:01] <yannickoo> escott: sure, it needs a ssh key.
[01:01] <yannickoo> escott: and to be on the known hosts
[01:01] <bekks> Topher82: Sorry, wrong channel. Nonetheless, swap is always needed when wanting hibernation to be working.
[01:01] <Rallias> If EVER it's a problem (which it absolutely shouldn't be), you can create a swap .img file.
[01:01] <Topher82> ahh shoot
[01:02] <Topher82> yea I kinda like that.
[01:02] <zykotick9> Topher82: if you care about your SSD - then minimize writes.  my ssd drive from the origional EEEpc 4&8GB models are still working fine today... failure on ssd/solid state is an issue however.  but i have swap on my ssd drive - i'll replace when it burns out - and the speeds are amazing
[01:02] <bekks> Topher82: Then you need swap size == ram size.
[01:02] <yannickoo> escott: when i enter the password it says that it is wrong, but it's right :)
[01:02] <escott> yannickoo, if its not in known hosts it will just ask. if you need to specify the private key just say ssh -i id_rsa ...
[01:02] <Rallias> Topher82, Unless programs start to fail, don't have swap set up.
[01:03] <yannickoo> escott: i done it with -F and added a config file with the key and the knonw hosts
[01:03] <Rallias> Once you have the system a few weeks, you can kind of get a feel for your normal ram requirements and make further decisions from there.
[01:03] <Topher82> ok I'm going to try that I might need help figuring out the math on the partitions.
[01:03] <Topher82> yea I have a spare SSD (they were half price so I bought 2)
[01:03] <Rallias> 100% to ext4 mounted as /
[01:03] <escott> yannickoo, it sounds like you are doing things in a more complicated fashion. it might be making your error messages more confusing
[01:04] <noiro> hey guys, how do I make sure 3D acceleration is working properly? I have the driver installed (supposedly) based on additional drivers
[01:04] <zykotick9> Topher82: if you select entire drive i think it will be automatic, with a suitable swap??? - running without swap will make your system SLOWER
[01:04] <Rallias> zykotick9, running without swap will only slow down if you run out of ram, which he has PLENTY of.
[01:04] <Topher82> ok so manually partiiton it to have no swap first. and if that doesn't work I know it's something with noacpi or noapci or whatever right?>
[01:05] <zykotick9> !swap
[01:05] <Dr_willis> i recall ages ago *like 5+ yrs* some benchmarks where not having any swap caused some sort of slow down. but  that was several kernel versiona back. :)
[01:05] <zykotick9> Rallias: incorrect
[01:05] <Rallias> That's completely false. The only time having no swap would slow down a computer is if you didn't have like a gig of free ram for file caching
[01:05] <Rallias> with 4gb ram, that's not a problem.
[01:06] <zykotick9> Rallias: if a system is using swap as memory - you system will be crawling - buy more memory ;)
[01:06] <Topher82> *sigh* I love it here. I always get great answers and awesome converstaions always start up :)
[01:06] <zykotick9> Rallias: incorrect
[01:06] <zykotick9> !swap | Rallias
[01:06] <Dr_willis> Topher82,  you can always make a swap file :)
[01:06] <Topher82> well at this point I just want to be able to reboot after install to an OS lol.
[01:06] <Rallias> Yes. If you find you need it, use a swap file, not a swap partition.
[01:07] <Topher82> at what poing in the install do I add that noapci stuff anyway?
[01:07] <yannickoo> escott: oh it works :o
[01:07] <zykotick9> Rallias: swap fils cannot do hibernation...
[01:07] <Dr_willis> i tend to always put like a 512mb swap  partition on my Hard drives out of old habbit. just in case i use a live cd. they got some swap to use if needed.
[01:07] <Topher82> or is that something I add during grub on the first boot?
[01:07] <Dr_willis> Topher82,  that would be a grub/syslinux boot option
[01:07] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: another excellent point - swap partitions are used by LiveCDs!
[01:07] <Rallias> Topher82, Nah, unless you have an odd computer, which most people don't.
[01:08] <Topher82> ok what key do I git to do that? I tried tab, esc, f8, f12, etc... lol I'm pesistent and a little ocd.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  which can be bad.. if you are trying to repartion that HD. ;)
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Topher82,  the !nomodeset guide shows you
[01:08] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:08] <Topher82> woot thanks
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Grub = HOLD shift.  Syslinux, tap space when ya see a Man=keyboard icon at the bottom..
[01:09] <Topher82> ok let me go absorb all of this and try another install :) back in a bit
[01:09] <Dr_willis> or tap space like a woodpecker after drinking a double capachino..
[01:09] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: ;) another excellent point (re: partioning from livecd and having to disable swap first)
[01:09] <Rallias> Seriously tho, I want to see benchmarks of a 4gb ram i7 system with and without swap. I highly doubt there's any performance deficit on the without swap system.
[01:15] <noiro> hey guys, how do I make sure 3D acceleration is working properly? I have the driver installed (supposedly) based on additional drivers
[01:15] <noiro> But gnome-shell keeps putting me in fallback
[01:17] <Topher82> grr now the usb drive I was using to install from seems to be corrupted :( going to have to burn a dvd
[01:17] <jerry_l> hello room..
[01:17] <naryfa> escott: Hi, would you happen to know how to add my own application to Default Applications in Details window in Ubuntu Settings? I have XnView, and it is not installed, it runs from its own directory, but I want it to associate with graphic files.
[01:18] <muggster>  :)
[01:19] <Nogal> Hey guys, is there any way to set up Empathy to automatically /msg NickServ identify <password> when I click into it?
[01:21] <escott> naryfa, not really. ask the channel
[01:21] <naryfa> escott: ok thank you
[01:21] <Dr_willis> Nogal,  check its settings for optional plugins.
[01:21] <IdleOne> Nogal: https://live.gnome.org/Empathy/FAQ#Is_there_a_way_to_configure_Empathy_to_identify_with_NickServ.3F
[01:21] <nulldev> nogal whats emapthy? is it a message client
[01:21] <Dr_willis> !im
[01:22] <naryfa> How can I add my own application to Default Applications in Details window in Ubuntu Settings? I have XnView, and it is not installed, it runs from its own directory, but I want it to associate with graphic files.
[01:22] <nulldev> nogal which message protocol you connecting to?
[01:22] <IdleOne> his quesiton about nickserv and empathy implies IRC
[01:23] <Jagst3r15> how do i install iced tea 7 plugin?
[01:23] <skumara> help i tried to install fglrx using the guide in this website http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers. I get this error http://pastebin.com/xPLvDi7e      How do i know fglrx hs installed correctly? I afraid if i restart the computer the laptop wont start!
[01:23] <Rallias> Jagst3r15, sudo apt-get install iced-tea openjdk-7
[01:23] <Rallias> er...
[01:23] <nulldev> nogal so you want your irc client to automatically log in? Not to bot?
[01:23] <Nogal> I just tried something from that link. I'm going to close the client and come back in to test it.
[01:23] <Rallias> i'm not sure on the openjdk-7 part...
[01:23] <Nogal> nulldev, yes. I'm testing this, one sec
[01:24] <Rallias> installing programs was much easier to explain when synaptic was the default.
[01:25] <nulldev> not to bot I hope*
[01:25] <IdleOne> Jagst3r15: sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[01:25] <Nogal> I'm back, and the link worked, thank you!
[01:25] <IdleOne> Welcome
[01:25] <Jagst3r15> thanks
[01:26] <baby_effulgence> hi guys, can anyone help me with crackling audio?
[01:27] <nulldev> nogal Im that old skool I was looking at ways to script inject empathy with the logins
[01:27] <Nogal> nulldev: honestly that was the sort of fix I thought I needed haha
[01:28] <nebu> anyone know which libraray or module enable Fn key in laptop? I have uninstalled it. Now i want to enable Fn keys again.
[01:28] <nulldev> cracking audio you mean the encryptions? well fek off
[01:28] <baby_effulgence> anyone?
[01:28] <IdleOne> !language | nulldev
[01:28] <Harris> how do i have ubuntu auto do terminal code modprobe b43
 hi guys, can anyone help me with crackling audio?
[01:29] <baby_effulgence> ty nulldev :/
[01:29] <nulldev> ooops very sorry crackling not cracking
[01:30] <jerry_l> audio, i can  try.
[01:30] <kandinski> this is nuts, I try to access my server, and it looks firewalled on my own laptop (my coworkers can see it)
[01:30] <Harris> ActionPa1snip,  i have to type the code modprobe b43 for my wifi to work how do i make it automatic
[01:31] <kandinski> I am running 12.04, and have no idea what can it be, any clue?
[01:31] <nulldev> kandinski its your local router then what you trying to connect to?
[01:31] <Harris> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <kandinski> nulldev, no, it's my server, which is on linode
[01:32] <kandinski> I can traceroute to linode.com, bu tnot to my server
[01:32] <nulldev> kandinski server? web/ftp/irc/ssh?
[01:32] <kandinski> my coworker can traceroute to both
[01:32] <ActionPa1snip> Harris: run:  echo "b43" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[01:32] <ActionPa1snip> Harris: it will load at boot automagically
[01:32] <nulldev> kandinski server? web/ftp/irc/ssh?
[01:32] <minimec> Harris: add 'b43' in /etc/modules
[01:33] <aaas> anyone have any experience routing apache error.log to the rsyslog daemon
[01:34] <nulldev> kandinski stop pasting trace routes too :)
[01:34] <ActionPa1snip> aaas: ask in #apache as well :)
[01:34] <kandinski> on the same wifi router, so it has to be my laptop
[01:34] <kandinski> ah, a good cmd line pastebin client?
[01:34] <kandinski> prefrably a non-pastebin.com pastebin
[01:34] <kandinski> nulldev: all of it, it's an ubuntu server
[01:34] <kandinski> but I can't even traceroute to it
[01:35] <nulldev> aaas if you get thast error your using apache maps , there broken
[01:35] <kandinski> nulldev: I never did!
[01:35] <kandinski> nulldev: that's naughty
[01:36] <nulldev> kandinski servers unless firewall permits wont respond to ping port 80 open wont matter as 80 uses tcp and ping is icmp so the firewall will let 80 tcp but not ping
[01:36] <AcidRain2012> i have an emerson tv, when i change the monitor settings to 1280x768 (16:10), i get nothing. when i change it to 1280x720 (16:9) and i goto the emerson pc settings, it says, not available. (when im trying to adjust the image on my screen being about 1" off in every direction.  1024x768 (4:3) in pc settings on the tv, i get the issue where i can only adjust to left, or right. and those are the only options. i cant adjust size of image like i can on
[01:36] <AcidRain2012> my vizio tv. how can i fix this?
[01:37] <AcidRain2012> any advice on the issue would be great
[01:37] <jerry_l> hello room. which should i use in ubuntu: VBOX, vmwarz.... looking for a good virtual machine.
[01:37] <deives> hi[
[01:37] <Rallias> jerry_l, depends... graphical or non-graphical
[01:38] <kandinski> nulldev, I can't see my server at all from this laptop
[01:38] <kandinski> ftp, ssh, http, nothing
[01:38] <kandinski> I can see it from my mate's laptop
[01:38] <skumara> help i tried to install fglrx using the guide in this website http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers. I get this error http://pastebin.com/xPLvDi7e      How do i know fglrx hs installed correctly? I afraid if i restart the computer the laptop wont start!
[01:38] <kandinski> or from other servers
[01:38] <jerry_l> one for each would work for me.
[01:38] <kandinski> it's the laptopt that's somehow blocking access
[01:38] <kandinski> (driving me nuts)
[01:38] <Rallias> jerry_l QEMU would be your best option then.
[01:38] <jerry_l> thanks.. looking up.
[01:38] <AcidRain2012> can anyone help me to adjust my pc screen on an emerson tv?
[01:39] <AcidRain2012> is there any type of software to help me do this?
[01:39] <kandinski> nulldev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097636/
[01:40] <jerry_l> :)
[01:40] <nulldev> kandinski what service and server and location of server you trying to connect to?
[01:41] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:41] <nulldev> traceroute to me is worthless unless it falls at your router ;)
[01:41] <kandinski> nulldev, the problem is not with the server, but with my laptop
[01:41] <kandinski> if you do these traceroutes, you'll get a good result for both of them
[01:41] <kandinski> and people in this office are also getting through, so it's not the local wifi router
[01:41] <kandinski> nulldev: see above post, it's hiperactivo.com through ssh and http
[01:41] <AcidRain2012> also, i cannot install the ati proprietary drivers
[01:41] <Matriks404> omg
[01:41] <kandinski> nulldev: it's failing at my laptop
[01:41] <kandinski> that's what I am telling you
[01:41] <kandinski> person next to me can get through
[01:41] <kandinski> but I can't, only for this server
[01:41] <nulldev> kandinski you got nmap installed?
[01:41] <kandinski> it's really weird
[01:41] <jerry_l>  AcidRain2012:  have you got your tv set up yet. if not, we need information
[01:42] <kandinski> nulldev: installing...
[01:42] <kandinski> installed
[01:44] <nulldev> kandinski scan the ip of the server use the default for 1st scan after this point type all as is in terminal replacing ip with the ip address $ nmap ip && nmap sU ip
[01:44] <kandinski> nulldev, thanks
[01:45] <antisec> hey
[01:45] <nulldev> kandinski thanks?
[01:46] <antisec> i want to know something about backbox
[01:46] <kandinski> thanks for the instructions
[01:46] <kandinski> nmap says the site seems down
[01:46] <kandinski> but I know it is't, I am irc-ing from it!
[01:46] <nulldev> np I look forward to a fix though
[01:46] <antisec> who can answer my question
[01:46] <TenMinChallenge> i will
[01:47] <antisec> are you good at it
[01:47] <TenMinChallenge> dued how dare you
[01:47] <antisec> i like bt5 too
[01:47] <kandinski> nmap needs a working network connection, and there isn't one
[01:47] <nulldev> kandinski so no ports open at all, not really my bag now, it will all depend on what router your using and opening the outbound in that
[01:47] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: backbox is offtopic here
[01:47] <kandinski> ah, getting there
[01:48] <antisec> ok
[01:48] <kandinski> nulldev, but the ports are open
[01:48] <kandinski> as I say, person sitting next to me can see the site
[01:48] <kandinski> through the same wifi router as I am using
[01:48] <kandinski> it has to be the laptop
[01:48] <nulldev> kandinski server or router inbound or outbound
[01:48] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: try  irc.autistici.org:6667 in channel #backbox
[01:49] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: what type of information do you need?
[01:49] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: source: http://www.backbox.org/contact
[01:49] <AcidRain2012> i thought the amount of information i included was plenty
[01:49] <jerry_l> Rallias: jerry_l QEMU thanks for the link. my chick is watching the new avatar cartoon so bandwidth is an issue.
[01:49] <antisec> i want to be a hacker like anonymous
[01:50] <jerry_l> thanks i booked marked the pages.
[01:50] <Rallias> WutO_o
[01:50] <kandinski> nulldev, outbound wifi router, we are in an office
[01:50] <jerry_l> acaid...
[01:50] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: I'd study networks first
[01:50] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: i tried to install proprietary drivers for ATI cards but failed, i was later turned away when google searches said this was a bad idea because it makes some peoples computers unusable
[01:50] <syddraf> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu, configured my displays ( all 1080p oriented like this Tetris piece: http://tinyurl.com/8xs7xmw ). When I click to drag something in nautilus (and only nautilus), it appears 1920 pixels to the left and 1080 pixels to the top of the cursor. This results in me having to drag the cursor onto the bottom left monitor in order to drop something on the top-center monitor. It also renders it im
[01:50] <syddraf> possible to drop items onto the bottom two monitors. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
[01:50] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: do you have any ideas?
[01:50] <jerry_l> what issue are use haveing? can not adsjust resoultion?
[01:50] <antisec> get into FBI or NASA
[01:50] <nulldev> qemu sucks after uninstalling vbox still wont start a vm until you stop qemu-kvm which isnt is chkconfig
[01:50] <kandinski> nulldev: I can't see hiperactivo.com from my laptop, my mate on the next desk can. hiperactivo.com is open because it's open and serving all it needs to serve.
[01:50] <antisec> to see  information about UFO
[01:51] <nulldev> kandinski I reckon its your dns have you tried opendns?
[01:51] <kandinski> nulldev: now nmap says filtered ports or closed auth...
[01:51] <kandinski> nulldev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097646/
[01:51] <jerry_l> i just use the non-pro.. for drivers.
[01:52] <kandinski> it's not the dns, dns works, and system fails for ip scan too
[01:52] <antisec> where are you from
[01:52] <nulldev> kandinski because it got no response rules out dns though
[01:52] <jerry_l> and if i really had to have the drivers and they wouldnt work then i would wrap them .
[01:53] <jerry_l> wrap - linux word of the day.
[01:53] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: honestly i dont know what stops  pc settings from being available. i think my computer sends such a high resolutions that the tv cant detect its a pc. but when i lowe rthe resolution sent, it is available, but the options i have only move left and right. not size. and size is so important to making it fit on the whole screen
[01:53] <antisec> ActionPa1snip:where are you from
[01:53] <kandinski> I mean I can't see the server at <IP_ADDRESS>, which is the machine pointed at by hiperactivo.com
[01:53] <brandon_> um i have no sound
[01:53] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: uk
[01:54] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: hey man, i appreciate how you are trying to help, could you include my name before your text aimed towards me, make it easier for me to see :)
[01:54] <jerry_l> sounds like ou have a true 16x9 screen...
[01:54] <D-Chymera> Hi guys, I'm using texlipse (eclipse plugin) to edit my .tex files and build .pdfs from them. For some reason whenever I have grayscale bitmaps (jpg, gif, or otherwise) I get a nice transparent yellow overlay what could be going on? how can I debug this? this is the only error message I coud find http://paste2.org/p/2076052
[01:54] <AcidRain2012> jerry_l: what does that mean? how do i fix the issue?
[01:54] <antisec> ActionPa1snip:i want to study in cambridge univercity
[01:54] <nulldev> kandinski yeaa all ok server side just at your local side is the prob let me look at your trace route again?
[01:54] <jerry_l> acid sure,, but i was actually trying to leave to set up more computers.
[01:54] <antisec> it maybe a dream for me
[01:54] <kandinski> thanks
[01:55] <AcidRain2012> ah, ok go man. thanks for help
[01:55] <AcidRain2012> brb
[01:55] <nulldev> kandinski your not even getting beyond your router strange on outbound , Im no networks guy so not sure
[01:55] <brandon_> i have n9o sound can someone help]
[01:55] <kandinski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097636/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097636/
[01:55] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: you'll need grades dude, and money
[01:55] <kandinski> nulldev, I know
[01:55] <jerry_l> soem TVs only support certian sizes. they are the standards mostlikely.
[01:56] <eedeep> has anyone noticed that the "save..." menu item is missing from Session Manager with firefox 13 and unity on 12.04
[01:56] <jerry_l> ::acaid::
[01:56] <eedeep> ?
[01:56] <antisec> yes
[01:56] <nulldev> kandinski The only thing could be your ISP is blocking it
[01:56] <brandon_> i had sound the other day but now ubuntu does not
[01:56] <jerry_l> have fun guys. i have to change machines.
[01:56] <kandinski> nulldev, but it's impossible!
[01:57] <antisec> ActionPa1snip:which univercity are you in
[01:57] <kandinski> nulldev, my deskmate is getting through *using the same wifi access point*
[01:57] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: I'm at work
[01:57] <kandinski> this is very infuriating
[01:57] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: done uni ale
[01:57] <ActionPa1snip> r*already
[01:58] <nulldev> kandinski ok so its your local firewall iptables? service iptables stop and try again
[01:58] <antisec> ActionPa1snip:i like network security
[01:58] <kandinski> nulldev: unrecognized service
[01:58] <brandon_> wtf why is no one helping me
[01:59] <antisec> ActionPa1snip:how old are you
[01:59] <bazhang> !ot | antisec
[01:59] <antisec> ok
[01:59] <antisec> i am sorry
[01:59] <nulldev> kandinski whats the results of nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <brandon_> am i muted or something!
[01:59] <brandon_> ihave no sound!
[02:00] <TenMinChallenge> brandon sup
[02:00] <brandon_> tenmin i have no sound
[02:00] <nulldev> brandon_ turn your speakers on
[02:00] <eedeep> brandon_: if you keep that shit up someone will permanently mute you
[02:00] <ActionPa1snip> antisec: 31
[02:00] <three18ti> brandon_, yea you must be, I can't hear you eaither.
[02:00] <TenMinChallenge> barndon when you stype, say it out loud
[02:00] <brandon_> nulldev ot funny they are
[02:00] <TenMinChallenge> and when you read, say it out loud
[02:01] <ActionPa1snip> brandon_: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then try sound
[02:01] <brandon_> ok
[02:01] <TenMinChallenge> brandon did you hit Alt-Z?
[02:01] <TenMinChallenge> invoke the summoner sound?
[02:01] <nulldev> actionparsnip teachin someone how to kill a proc properly thumbs up
[02:02] <kandinski> nulldev, thanks a lot
[02:02] <kandinski> have to run now, but thanks really for helping
[02:02] <nulldev> kandinski no worries
[02:02] <brandon_> what should i do the killallvthing?
[02:02] <hololight> I want to use midnight commander over a ssh connection. since I use byobu and want mouse support i musr start mc with the -x option (xterm mode) every time. Is there a way to make that option automatic so i only type 'mc' instead of 'mc -x'?
[02:03] <eedeep> hololight: create an alias and but it in your profile
[02:03] <nulldev> kandinski I have to do something whilst my wife recovers from orgasm :)
[02:03] <eedeep> eg, for bash, put this in ~/.bashrc
[02:03] <IdleOne> eedeep: Please be more polite when trying to educate :)
[02:03] <Topher82> ok installing this time with noapci and no swap file. anyone else with an SSD have any other useful performance enhancing or life extending tips?
[02:03] <hololight> duh... thank you
[02:04] <brandon_> action nope still not working
[02:04] <eedeep> alias mc='mc -x'
[02:04] <eedeep> hololight: ^
[02:04] <eedeep> IdleOne: which comment are you referring to?
[02:05] <Rallias> Topher82, Get a spinny disk to store commonly-overwritten files
[02:05] <Topher82> it's a laptop no room :(
[02:06] <nulldev> who needs backups rm -rf oops
[02:06] <brandon_> ActionPa1snip,  still not working
[02:06] <TenMinChallenge> i saw a student from india today
[02:06] <TenMinChallenge> a girl and i feel so bad
[02:06] <TenMinChallenge> that she would land in a scary place like this
[02:07] <Topher82> and we are up in about 10 seconds :) yay
[02:07] <IdleOne> eedeep: the swearing/cursing/bad language is not needed or welcome.
[02:07] <brandon_> wow can so e one help!
[02:07] <bazhang> TenMinChallenge, stop that
[02:07] <nulldev> idleone youve never worked in IT then or been a hacker
[02:07] <eedeep> IdleOne: is this welcome?: "11:58 < brandon_> wtf why is no one helping me"
[02:08] <IdleOne> eedeep: no, but bad behaviour does not excuse more of it.
[02:08] <IdleOne> eedeep: lead by example is all I am saying.
[02:08] <eedeep> IdleOne: you make a fair point
[02:08] <IdleOne> nulldev: You are on a short leash my friend. I wouldn't push it too much.
[02:09] <nulldev> idleone Im a hacker in the real sense I know when and not
[02:10] <brandon_> omg please someone help me
[02:10] <brandon_> i have no sound
[02:10] <brandon_> quit foccising on off topic thoings
[02:10] <naryfa> does anybody know what a mouse-scroll is called in Ubuntu? I want to assign it to desktop scroll
[02:11] <eedeep> by the way, if anyone is seeing the main "session manager" menu item missing from firefox 13 in unity, try this: got about:config and set extensions.{1280606b-2510-4fe0-97ef-9b5a22eafe30}.no_splitmenu to true
[02:11] <brandon_> WOW THIS IS PISSING ME OFF!
[02:11] <cprofitt> naryfa: it is a button...
[02:11] <TenMinChallenge> brandon hit Alt-Z
[02:12] <cprofitt> naryfa: what button depends on your mouse... it is usually button 4 and button 5
[02:12] <brandon_> are U freaking seriuos kick me out cause ur not helping me
[02:12] <IdleOne> brandon_: please calm down, explain your problem clearly with as much detail as possible and IF someone can they will help you.
[02:13] <brandon_> IdleOne, i HAVE NOT SOUND how can i be more clear then that!
[02:13] <cprofitt> brandon_: please calm down and people will try to help you... we are all volunteers in this channel... and not everyone will know the answer to your question
[02:13] <Rallias> brandon_, card? what you've tried?
[02:13] <cprofitt> brandon_: you may also want to try askubuntu.com ... there may be an existing answer there
[02:13] <IdleOne> brandon_: by telling us what you have tried, what are you trying to do...?
[02:13] <TenMinChallenge> try microsoft
[02:13] <brandon_> Rallias,  it was working ealier
[02:14] <minimec> brandon_: Do you see your device in settings sound? Also check alsamixer on a console
[02:14] <brandon_> tenmin NO WINDOWS IS STUPID\
[02:14] <cprofitt> TenMinChallenge: not really the correct answer
[02:14] <IdleOne> brandon_: Also please stop with the all caps. it is annoying and rude.
[02:14] <Rallias> brandon_, on the forums, in the multimedia section, there's a sticky. Go find it and read it. I believe it may fix your issue.
[02:14] <cprofitt> brandon_: I just came on... I am willing to try and assist you if I know the answer... can you tell me what the question is?
[02:15] <brandon_> OK FIXED IT THANK YOU
[02:15] <brandon_> SRRY for caps
[02:19] <msdaisy> Hello.  How do you turn logging off in Ubuntu (sys, kern, etc)
[02:19] <msdaisy> ?
[02:20] <rodneymillerpca> I been out of the loop last to upgrades till now. anyone got time for 2 simple questions besides this one.
[02:20] <msdaisy> !ask | rodneymillerpca
[02:21] <rodneymillerpca> One is there a way to switch back to the simple menu instad of the bar on the left side. It's driving me nuts.
[02:21] <ActionPa1snip> brandonj: sweet
[02:21] <msdaisy> You mean you want gnome desktop instead of unity rodneymillerpca ?
[02:21] <IdleOne> !notunity | rodneymillerpca
[02:21] <urbanp00r> Terminal doesn't display in color even though i un-commented force_color_prompt=yes in .bashrc. It display fine though if I issue . ~/.bashrc
[02:21] <ActionPa1snip> brandonj: if you are civil and patient, you will be helped if possible
[02:23] <rodneymillerpca> Ah ok gnome I hug. lol
[02:23] <rodneymillerpca> I'm a realy old geek and have little use to learn new .lol
[02:24] <ActionPa1snip> urbanp00r: did you run:  source ~/.bashrc   after the change?
[02:24] <ActionPa1snip> rodneymillerpca: just install gnome-panel and log off and select the new session
[02:24] <urbanp00r> ActionPa1snip: yes, but everytime i use terminal do i run that command?
[02:25] <urbanp00r> Is . ~/.bashrc not similar to source ~/.bashrc?
[02:25] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, I'm not on a ubu system, but I thought ubuntu-classic was the choice installed by default if you want that...
[02:25] <ActionPa1snip> urbanp00r: it runs each time a fresh terminal is loaded, standing terminals will need to run the source command to re-read the config
[02:25] <antony__> is there any experience linux ubuntu  users  who would recomend for someone who is new to linux  to  use this distro?  i really want to use linux as my primary os?
[02:25] <ActionPa1snip> Rallias: anything post Natty will use Unity as the default shell, you can install gnome-panel and use that if you wish
[02:25] <xangua> !manual | antony__
[02:26] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: its what Ubuntu is aimed at. New users to linux
[02:26] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, Yeah, but I thought you didn't need to install anything additional.
[02:26] <ActionPa1snip> Rallias: yeah its extra, the defaults are Unity and Unity2D only but you can install what you wish
[02:27] <urbanp00r> ActionPa1snip: i ran source ~/.bashrc and it displays color in the current terminal. running another terminal will not show the color again. weird.
[02:27] <antony__> can u still use the gnome-panel on 12.04?
[02:27] <ActionPa1snip> !info gnome-panel
[02:27] <naryfa> cprofitt: excellent, thank you
[02:28] <rodneymillerpca> Thank all four of you.
[02:28] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: if you like the Gnome2 smell you can install Xubuntu and getr the 2 panel desktop you are familiar with
[02:28] <rodneymillerpca> All have a great evening
[02:28] <antony__> or i could just install mate  into ubuntu :)
[02:28] <urbanp00r> rodneymillerpca: you too!
[02:29] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: sure, but its not supoprted here
[02:29] <NictraSavios> Hello, how can I map extra mouse keys with CCSM in 12.04? I have a mouse with 13 extra buttons, plus the usual 9.
[02:29] <NictraSavios> without ccsm** sorry.
[02:30] <ActionPa1snip> !shortcuts
[02:30] <NictraSavios> Mouse. Not keyboard.
[02:31] <ActionPa1snip> NictraSavios: its just another input device in Xorg, the system doesn't care
[02:31] <NictraSavios> Well, when I try to use system -- > Preferances  --> Keyboard  --> Shortcuts, It dosen't work.
[02:32] <NictraSavios> It wants a keyboard stroke so it won't take a mouse click as a "key"
[02:32] <Rallias> I'm curious... is there any way to have that multi-mouse-cursor setup like google did for their april fools joke but have it real?
[02:32] <urbanp00r> ActionPa1snip: what if source ~/.bashrc don't work?
[02:33] <naryfa> NictraSavios: I'm trying to do the same, I want to use mouse button for workspace scrolling, and can't figure out how to do it
[02:34] <NictraSavios> Under Windows I just use Logitech Setpoint and using the Autohotkey scripting language... both aren't available in Linux. And now that BTNX has been nerfed upstream thanks to xorg's evdev driver... Were outta luck.
[02:34] <ActionPa1snip> urbanp00r: then you'll need to review the setting
[02:35] <urbanp00r> ActionPa1snip: can i get any clue?
[02:35] <NictraSavios> Because no good GUI configuration tools for evdev exist...
[02:35] <naryfa> NictraSavios: what is evdev? Is that a kernel module?
[02:35] <Adnan> Hello, After unexpected shutdown, my ubuntu isn't starting.how can i fix that??Any idea??
[02:35] <NictraSavios> Its an xorg mouse driver and kernel module
[02:36] <ActionPa1snip> urbanp00r: what are you trying to achieve?
[02:37] <NictraSavios> But *some* of us don't particularly like rummaging though xorg configuration files using an arcane syntax to achieve something that takes 45 seconds under other so-called "Legacy" operating systems.
[02:39] <Adnan> Hello, After unexpected shutdown, my ubuntu isn't starting.how can i fix that??Any idea??
[02:39] <urbanp00r> ActionPa1snip: thanks!
[02:39] <NictraSavios> Seriously... If I wanted to continue using a command line and configuration file system I would have kept using archlinux like I did for 2 years.
[02:39] <urbanp00r> I'll look into this further
[02:41] <minimec> Adnan: Could you explain, when exactly the ubuntu boot procedure is 'hanging'?
[02:42] <d0lphin_333> Hello :)
[02:43] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: anything we can help you?
[02:43] <Adnan> My electricity goes down.that's why it's shut down unexpectedly.now, after that, it's not starting,  but I can access terminal by recovery mode
[02:44] <zytter> hi something know how configure IPTABLES
[02:44] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon hello :) Sorry about the question but  im having some troubles install ubuntu i, using ubuntu 12.04 desktop i386 but it dont give me image in the install i have one hdmi monitor
[02:45] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: did you do upgrade while installing
[02:45] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: the problem might be caused by hdmi port not being recognized
[02:45] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon no, just clean install
[02:45] <Adnan> @minimec any idea??
[02:46] <naryfa> NictraSavios: I understand you but that doesn't help hehe
[02:46] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon it give image but only when o clik in some keyboard but then i try to install and nathing neither live cd nathing
[02:46] <antony__> d0lphin_333: have you tried using a different connection e.g vga or dvi?
[02:46] <minimec> Adnan: I see. I guess you have 'autologin' activated and the system cannot load you sessoin correctly. Would that be correct?
[02:46] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: have you tried using another port other than hdmi port? like antony__ mentioned?
[02:47] <Adnan> Yes,auto-login activated @minimec
[02:48] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon antony__ , no i dont welll... but strange because i got image at the first when i clik in the keyboard but then clik install and nathing isnt it supost livecd run whith hdmi?
[02:48] <quixotedon> !hdmi | d0lphin_333
[02:49] <Adnan> @minimec Can you give any solution??
[02:49] <antony__> d0lphin_333: i think you should try installing using a different connection, then when you install your graphical drivers that may work.
[02:49] <minimec> Adnan: There is a session file, you would have to remove/rename. I am to old/tired to remember the name...
[02:50] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: that means the driver wasn't installed properly
[02:51] <d0lphin_333> antony__ that what i ask try to avoid because i think strange because i got image at the first so ubuntu linux live cd dont work whith hdmi?
[02:51] <Guest79436> what the new   ?
[02:51] <bob__> hey
[02:52] <antony__> d0lphin_333: i cant say myself, as i dont use a hdmi connection.
[02:53] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: we don't know much about the installing hdmi issue.. let me do some research first
[02:53] <flan_suse> Is there a web site or central location for Unity lenses and themes? (One that doesn't require adding hard-to-find PPAs, some of which don't even have builds for 12.04).
[02:54] <flan_suse> For 12.04, many themes and lenses aren't even available for 12.04, but only 11.10 and previous.
[02:54] <d0lphin_333> antony__ , quixotedon i think it can be because hdmi... not a shure. well thanks anyway, need to try whith other cable whith vga and then if work... update the drivers thanks :)
[02:54] <flan_suse> And what constitutes a "Unity" theme. A basic GTK3 theme? A Gnome Shell theme?
[02:54] <minimec> Adnan: I am pretty sure, that your session configuration is corrupted. Try to rename the folders .compiz --> .compiz-old ; .gnome --> .gnome-old. I an console cp /home/'Adnan'/.compiz /home/'Adnan'/.compiz-old After that try to reboot.
[02:55] <minimec> Adnan: It's 'mv', not 'cp'. I have to go to sleep... ;)
[02:55] <ActionPa1snip> flan_suse: I believe it just uses the GTK3 theme you use
[02:55] <flan_suse> ActionPa1snip: Figured so.
[02:56] <ActionPa1snip> flan_suse: if you change your wallpaper, the dash shell and unity launcher change colour to match
[02:56] <flan_suse> ActionPa1snip: Know of any central location / web site? Sort of like how there's a gnome-look.org? (Something like a unity-extras.org?)
[02:56] <greasegum> anyone know how to use unetbootin to install to a specific partition?
[02:56] <flan_suse> ActionPa1snip: I set mine to 100% transparent, so the same thing happens where the wallpaper basically "bleeds" through.
[02:56] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: through the search, mostly the problem is based on the sound, but, you'd better do a search yourself for the hardware you're going to use through the hdmi port, to help solve the problem
[02:57] <ActionPa1snip> flan_suse: here are some http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/5-nice-gnome-34-themes-ubuntu-ppa.html
[02:57] <bob__> Hello all
[02:57] <quixotedon> d0lphin_333: yeah, try using another port first, then go to updating the driver :)
[02:57] <quixotedon> bob__: yes, anything to say?
[02:57] <bob__> Indeed one question
[02:58] <antony__> quixotedon: thats what i suggested, as i think it needs the driver to be installed first.
[02:58] <bob__> I have installed ubuntu and cannot get it to reconize my graphics card. It's a dell D630
[02:58] <flan_suse> ActionPa1snip: Not bad, thank you. :)
[02:58] <negatory> Has anybody noticed repeated (several times a minute) DNS requests to daisy.ubuntu.com?
[02:58] <quixotedon> antony__: yeah, let's hope that solves d0lphin_333's problem
[02:58] <negatory> what on earth is daisy.ubuntu.com?
[02:58] <flan_suse> ActionPa1snip: Never knew webupd8 had its own PPA.
[02:58] <quixotedon> bob__: what graphic hardware?
[02:58] <antony__> quixotedon: i hope so
[02:59] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon it looks the bether thing to try but if this work so ubuntu live cd or install dont work whith hdmi monitor
[02:59] <bob__> Intel 945 Chipset
[02:59] <d0lphin_333> quixotedon thanks for your time :)
[03:00] <ActionPa1snip> flan_suse: yeah its great, it's where I get oracle java from too
[03:00] <antony__> quixotedon: when you've helped bob_  i need to ask a question myself :)
[03:00] <bob__> I tried the update program, with no luck.
[03:01] <antony__> bob__: Is there no driver available to download?
[03:01] <itsez> hello
[03:01] <max1> hello
[03:01] <bob__> No, i looked at the hardware as well.
[03:01] <kiwii> anyone here running ubuntu on a netbook with an intel atom processor? i've tried various versions and nothing isn't unbearably slow
[03:02] <quixotedon> bob__: have you tried installing the driver through Super button (Windows button on keyboard) then type "Additional Drivers", that will direct you to hardware that needs driver to be installed
[03:02] <max1> i have a weird problem......for some reason my CTRL key just stopped working
[03:02] <max1> i'm in vbox
[03:02] <bob__> No proprietary driver are in use on this system
[03:02] <max1> but can see the key being pressed in xev
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> max1: if you run:   xev    and press the key, does it generate events?
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> haha
[03:03] <max1> AcidRain2012, yes :)
[03:03] <max1> so i look in my xmodmap file
[03:03] <negatory> nobody on 12.04 is repeatedly sending these DNS requests to daisy.ubuntu.com?
[03:03] <bdav3216> hi ther
[03:03] <max1> and all my modifier keys have different keycodes than what is said in xev
[03:03] <kiwii> Is anyone running linux on a netbook?
[03:03] <max1> but they all still work........
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> negatory: you could add an entry in /etc/hosts to make daisy.ubuntu.com resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:04] <itsez> hey
[03:04] <antony__> kiwii: i used to,  till i bought a laptop
[03:04] <itsez> sorry
[03:04] <quixotedon> bob__: what's the graphic hardware?
[03:04] <kiwii> antony__ how long ago?
[03:04] <kiwii> what flavor?
[03:04] <negatory> ActionPa1snip: I was actually wondering if anyone knew the cause? Or what daisy.ubuntu.com even is?
[03:04] <antony__> kiwii: about 12 months ago
[03:04] <naryfa> how can I add a custom default application to the Default Applications in Ubuntu?
[03:05] <kiwii> antony__: was it usable?
[03:05] <bob__> Intel 945
[03:05] <antony__> kiwii: I found it to be running ok,  are you using the netbook edition?
[03:05] <kiwii> antony__: no, haven't tried that yet. so you were on 11.04?
[03:06] <bob__> I have googled and looked around on some forums
[03:06] <ActionPa1snip> negatory: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie-daisy/+bug/913694  references it (see the last posts)
[03:06] <antony__> kiwii: yes i was but i was using the netbook edition as it is made for netbooks,  It's better proformance.
[03:07] <kiwii> antony__: cool I will try that, thanks. i was just trying to resist unity at all costs
[03:07] <antony__> kiwii: You need to use the netbook edition as, netbooks aren't very powerful.
[03:07] <kiwii> antony__: you didn't happen to happen to have a poulsbo graphics card in your netbook, did you?
[03:07] <ActionPa1snip> kiwii: or use Lubuntu if you want a more traditional desktop :)
[03:08] <antony__> kiwii: No, it was intergrated intel card.
[03:08] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: most netbooks are more powerful than anything I own
[03:08] <kiwii> ActionPa1snip: it's for my g/f, and she needs something that's a little more easy to configure
[03:09] <kiwii> i was thinking about XFCE
[03:09] <kiwii> even though I like LXDE way better myself
[03:09] <antony__> Kiwii: If you dont like  unity,  use 11.04 or 11.10  and install the gnome classic panel :)
[03:09] <quixotedon> bob__: have you tried "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils" (without quotes)
[03:09] <snyp_> i am trying to install erlang in ubuntu, when i do "make install" it says "usr/bin/install:cannot change permissions of 'usr/local/lib/erlang':No such file or directory. Can anyone help?
[03:09] <quixotedon> bob__: the link is right here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129227/how-do-i-install-intel-hd-graphics-driver-on-ubuntu-12-04
[03:10] <bob__> not yet,
[03:10] <bob__> ok i will look
[03:10] <bob__> brb
[03:10] <snyp_> Isn't the folder supposed to be created automatically during installation?
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> kiwii: yeah XFCE is easy enough
[03:11] <snyp_> i followed these instructions. http://codeswamp.com/2011/05/25/installing-erlang-r14b03-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:11] <antony__> This may sound like a ridiculous question, but is there anyway to disable the password, like when your installing programs etc?
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: its not supported or advised
[03:12] <antony__> ActionPa1snip: Oh ok no problem.
[03:12] <HelloWorld321> what package do you recommend for BD writing?  Is Brassero okay?
[03:12] <ActionPa1snip> antony__: you can run:  sudo -i   and get a root prompt and you won't need a password til you run: exit
[03:12] <snyp_> Please help me someone.. =/
[03:13] <kiwii> ActionPa1snip: would you recommend Xubuntu or ubuntu netbook version with XFCE installed?
[03:13] <bazhang> snyp_, just install from the repos
[03:13] <kiwii> or does it matter
[03:13] <ActionPa1snip> !erlang
[03:13] <AcidRain2012> ok im back with my issue
[03:13] <bob__> Oracle JDK 7 is NOT installed.
[03:13] <bob__>      Getting that error
[03:13] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install erlang  snyp_
[03:14] <snyp_> ok..
[03:15] <max1> ok, xev says left control is keycode 37......so "xmodmap -e 'keycode 37 = Control_L';xmodmap -e 'add control = Control_L"
[03:15] <AcidRain2012> to break it down: on every resolution but 1, the pc settings to adjust screen left/right is disabled. even at that, the only display resoution output that it does work on is the one im currently using, and its about 6" short on each side of screen. and i need a pc settings option to adjust size, not left/right. that does nothing but move the screen around on the tv. i am using dvi to hdmi cord. this works fine on my vizo tv cause i can adjust size,
[03:15] <AcidRain2012> can anyone help me?
[03:15] <max1> but breaks
[03:15] <bob__> Got the java problem, fixing right now :::
[03:17] <antony__> ok im back my laptop locked up
[03:17] <snyp_> ok one more question does apt-get remove <package> delete the .deb files too, or just the installed software?
[03:17] <marun> I have created a CNAME for my  mail server. When i dig it by fqdn, bind is answering the query properly. But when i give just the name, it is not resolved. Where did it  go wrong?
[03:19] <AcidRain2012> people on google are saying that the nvidia drivers support overscan and work with my issue
[03:19] <bob__> No luck, Still getting same error
[03:19] <snyp_> it seems the deb packages are kept.. anyways sudo apt-get install erlang worked.. =) thanks bazhang
[03:19] <AcidRain2012> my new quesition is, can i use nvidia drivers on an ati card?
[03:20] <bazhang> AcidRain2012, of course not
[03:20] <marun> any ideas?
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> damn.
[03:20] <IanMoone> Every application except for Movie Player and sometimes skype causes really "static-y" noise
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> back to square 1
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> so is there anyway at all that i can fix this? it seems like not, and i should just switch to vizion tv with less quality?
[03:24] <AcidRain2012> when trying to install ATI/AMD proprietary driver from Hardware Drivers in System -> Admin, i get this error:SystemError: installArchives() failed
[03:27] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: is the OS fully updated?
[03:28] <IanMoone> exit
[03:28] <IanMoone> exit
[03:28] <IanMoone> woops
[03:28] <AcidRain2012> ActionPa1snip: my lucid box is as updated as it can be
[03:29] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: Is the lucid system the one having issues?
[03:29] <digital_power> всем привет
[03:29] <bazhang> !ru | digital_power
[03:31] <AcidRain2012> ActionPa1snip: yes, but only on this emerson tv, because i dont have the option to adjust the screen size based off the resolution output. i can ONLY adjust vert,horiz screen start point
[03:31] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: have you tried Precise (12.04) the newer kernel and driver may help
[03:32] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: plus Lucid desktop is EOL in April, giving about 9 months of support...
[03:32] <AcidRain2012> ActionPa1snip: .... i will never leave this box. from now on
[03:32] <AcidRain2012> i have about 10 servers set up on here.
[03:32] <AcidRain2012> all of which were very difficult to setup
[03:32] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: could try a liveCD, just to test
[03:33] <ActionPa1snip> AcidRain2012: Lucid will continue to work but it won't be supported anywhere and you will get no updates
[03:34] <AcidRain2012> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection?action=show&redirect=X%2FTroubleshooting%2FFglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch this link suggests using nvidia drivers with an ATI/AMD card
[03:34] <fn-troll> What's the name of the CLI program that generates a 10x10 ascii art based on an SSH key or somesuch thing?
[03:34] <AcidRain2012> ActionPa1snip: but i dont need updates, ill just keep changing the target to the repos. then ill stay supported. lol
[03:34] <AcidRain2012> eventually ill turn offf automatic updates,
[03:35] <AcidRain2012> i havent upgraded this computer in like... since 10.04 came out
[03:37] <AcidRain2012> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10805756&postcount=4 that seems to be my issue, but sounds very scary. lol
[03:37] <bob__> That link fixed the problem!! Thank you all for your help!!
[03:42] <megacore> What's the ssh command to use if I want to tunnel my internet traffic through another machine?
[03:42] <fn-troll> Also, is there a convenient way to install additional WMs in Ubuntu and switch between them? For example, even though I'm using Gnome/Unity, is it possible for me to install xfce and switch to that on the GDM login screen?
[03:42] <fn-troll> megacore: there are several
[03:43] <bnm> fn-troll: man banner
[03:43] <ActionPa1snip> !ics | megacore
[03:43] <fn-troll> megacore: One opens up a socks port, one forwards data from one port to another ip/port. Which one are you looking for?
[03:43] <zykotick9> fn-troll: from "man ssh-keygen", "If combined with -v, an ASCII art representation of the key is supplied with the fingerprint."
[03:43] <fn-troll> zykotick9: ahhhh okay
[03:44] <megacore> I'd like to send firefox traffic over a socks port
[03:45] <zykotick9> fn-troll: in recent ubuntu's lightdm is the desktop manager - and yes
[03:46] <fn-troll> megacore: Then I think you're looking for ssh -D bigportnumber user@host
[03:46] <fn-troll> megacore: if you want other people on the network to be able to use the tunnel you've opened, then ssh -D <IP_ADDRESS>:bignumber user@host
[03:46] <megacore> fn-troll: and then in firefox do I set my proxy as user@host or user@localhost?
[03:46] <fn-troll> where big number is something between 1025-40000 or so. Just pick a random 5 digit number starting with 3, easiest way
[03:47] <fn-troll> in firefox you'd set your socks proxy to be <IP_ADDRESS> and whatever port number you picked
[03:47] <megacore> fn-troll: and that's all there is to it? just ssh -d 3xxx user@host and then set socks proxy to localhost?
[03:48] <fn-troll> * ssh -D
[03:48] <megacore> -D. got it.
[03:48] <fn-troll> and yes I believe that's all there is to it, set socks proxy to localhost, and port to whatever you picked
[03:48] <pidginROCKS> is their a way to get rid of unity and go back to gnome?
[03:48] <megacore> easy enough -- thanks!
[03:48] <fn-troll> yw :)
[03:48] <zykotick9> !notunity | pidginROCKS
[03:49] <pidginROCKS> !classic
[03:50] <alex_> what ubuntu was fisrt made for?
[03:51] <Sydus> !notunity
[03:51] <ikesmasher> Whos up to helping complete a near impossible to fix problem ive made with my PC?
[03:51] <zykotick9> alex_: that's an OT question, but ubuntu was origionally a "user friendly" debian derivative.  now it's something else...
[03:52] <Jagst3r15> trying to remember how i did this before. I am getting this popping sound from my speakers and last time i fixed it by editing this line of code in a file. I had to like set something to false
[03:53] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: supplying "lscpi | grep -i audio" might help the channel.  i have no idea (but haven't searched with relevant data ;)
[03:53] <ikesmasher> So, i was trying to convert a MBR disc to GPT so i could dual boot windows 8 with a UEFI bios.  im currently typing from an ubuntu live CD, and ubuntu reads the hard drive perfectly and gparted detects it as a GPT disc. all i need is to be able to get back into my
[03:54] <ikesmasher> all my files still be there
[03:54] <ikesmasher> so anyone can help me? please?
[03:54] <fn-troll> I would argue that as long as it uses the deb packaging system it's still basically a debian derivative. It's all grown up and is now quite distinguished from its "parent", but debian is still its "father". And yeah, it was originally made as "Linux for noobs", but has since stabalized into something everyone can use, including extremely seasoned linux users, such as myself
[03:54] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: Uhhhhhhhm
[03:54] <Jagst3r15> zykotick9 its like to turn off sound hardware
[03:55] <zykotick9> fn-troll: mixing distros is insanity.  mixing versions is crazy.
[03:55] <ikesmasher> so can anyone help?
[03:55] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: What partitions does your favorite partition manager say are on the drive?
[03:55] <ikesmasher> uhm
[03:55] <ikesmasher> one sec
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> its power_save or something
[03:56] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: i have no idea what you need man - that could be anything.  (ps i'm not good with sound issues)
[03:56] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: acpi?  that's kinda a bad thing to disable...
[03:56] <ikesmasher> fn-troll: sda1, sda2, and sda3, with PQSERVICE, SYSTEM RESERVED, and ACER respectively
[03:57] <karen_Deckers> Hello world :)
[03:57] <maanu2k> Hi peeps
[03:57] <Jonii> Hello
[03:58] <zykotick9> !ask
[03:58] <Zeropain> hello
[03:58] <killown> WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPEN WITH UBUNTU?    sudo apt-get install libfreetype6-dev:i386  makes remove the follow packages build-essential dkms g++ gcc gcc-multilib libcairo2-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgtk2.0-dev libimlib2-dev libpango1.0-dev libxft-dev nvidia-current tk-dev
[03:58] <killown>   tk8.5-dev virtualbox-dkms
[03:58] <FloodBot1> killown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:58] <ikesmasher> anyone...?
[03:58] <Jonii> I have Ubuntu 12.04, and I'd like to have a separate launcher and separate place where I can access programs that I have opened
[03:58] <Tm_T> !language | killown
[03:59] <Jonii> I feel the mix of two in Ubuntu 12.04 is not good. What would you people suggest?
[03:59] <Zeropain> hi
[03:59] <karen_Deckers> If you want ubuntu to be old school, just go get the GMNOME Environment package ;)
[03:59] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: Eeek. I'd try mounting each of those partitions and seeing if something magical can be detected
[03:59] <Zeropain> what is the goal of ubuntu
[03:59] <maanu2k> I have an Nvidia video card with Optimus and have been unable to use hardware acceleration
[03:59] <Bandit_> ubuntu-br
[03:59] <Jagst3r15> zykotick9 i got it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788483
[03:59] <fn-troll> you might have a good shot with sda3
[03:59] <maanu2k> installing Bumblebee
[04:00] <ikesmasher> fn-troll: what does something magical mean :/
[04:00] <karen_Deckers> ubuntu is... Linux.
[04:00] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: It means "I have a hunch you're screwed but if you're lucky this will work"
[04:00] <Zeropain> ok tanks karen
[04:00] <maanu2k> and still culd not leverage the videocard
[04:00] <maanu2k> any ideas folks?
[04:00] <ikesmasher> fn-troll: oh ok
[04:00] <ikesmasher> haha
[04:00] <Zeropain> where country are u from
[04:01] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: nice :)
[04:02] <ikesmasher> hey fn-troll: disk utility has said, that the daemon is being inhibited when i tried mounted SDA3....i got no idea what that means
[04:02] <karen_Deckers> I cant help so good.. my desktop is all set in french xD
[04:06] <ikesmasher> does anyone know what "the daemon is being inhibited" means when mounting or altering a partition from a ubuntu live CD
[04:07] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: check "mount" in cli to see if /dev/sda3 is already listed; if not, as root run mkdir /mnt/sda3   and then mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3
[04:07] <fn-troll> Assuming your files are still there and partitions aren't messed up etc, your data should then be available in /mnt/sda3
[04:08] <rypervenche> karen_Deckers: ouais grosse !
[04:08] <dosputas> hello, i need help finding my wifi password stored in linux mint ... any advice?
[04:09] <MonkeyDust> dosputas  type !mint
[04:10] <jagginess> dosputas, google: "how to find my password in linux mint"
[04:10] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[04:12] <zykotick9> fn-troll: fyi /mnt is techically for use as a "temporary" mount point itself.  a subdir on /srv according to file-system heirarchy would be more appropriate for more permanent mounts.
[04:12] <ikesmasher> k
[04:12] <fn-troll> zykotick9: I'd say that, considering he's running from a livecd, this is a temporary mount.
[04:12] <zykotick9> fn-troll: so use /mnt
[04:14] <phong_> hi guys
[04:14] <zykotick9> fn-troll: all i'm saying - is there is no need for the mkdir step, just mount to /mnt
[04:15] <phong_> how to change sftp port to my own port number instead of port 22?
[04:15] <ikesmasher> i am so confused. im not exactly sure im typing things in properly, but nothing happens when i type sudo /mkdir /mnt/sda3...im not really a linux user but i keep this live CD around in case stuff like this DOES happen
[04:15] <phong_> currently my sftp use port 22
[04:15] <phong_> is there a way to manully assign different port for sftp instead of port 22?
[04:15] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: nothing should happen visibly after typing "sudo mkdir /mnt/sda3" (not sudo /mkdir - that will either silently fail or give you an error)
[04:16] <ikesmasher> it was silent fn-troll...what do i do then
[04:16] <fn-troll> sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3
[04:16] <jamescarr> I'm confused... I set the group ownership for /var/www to www-data. I have a user in the www-data group
[04:16] <jamescarr> yet that user cannot create files in that directory?
[04:17] <chobbs> phong_: Pretty sure you need to change /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Look for the "Port 22" line and change it to the port you'd like to use instead.
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> jamescarr: what access does thr www-data group have nn the folder?
[04:17] <jamescarr> 775?
[04:17] <phong_> chobbs, thanks  will do that
[04:17] <ikesmasher> fn-troll: typed that and it was silent as well. is that good or bad?
[04:17] <dosputas> there are only stupid people conected in the mint chat
[04:18] <jamescarr> dosputas, dont talk down on people
[04:18] <dosputas> i dont they are only not helping me atall
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> jamescarr: so full access
[04:19] <chobbs> phong_: You'll need to restart sshd after you've made the change: sudo service ssh restart
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> dosputas: mint still isnt supported here
[04:20] <dosputas> ok im just asking for advice
[04:21] <ActionPa1snip> yes advice on mint, which isn't supported here
[04:21] <jagginess> "<dosputas> hello, i need help finding my wifi password stored in linux mint ... any advice?" << definitely is asking for problems.
[04:21]  * jagginess thinks dosputas is 100% trolling at this point
[04:22] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: Not sure. run "ls /mnt/sda3", does it list anything?
[04:22] <phong_> chobbs, what is standard port 443 use for?
[04:22] <ikesmasher> fn-troll- i typed something and found an answer online and its mounted now, what should i do
[04:22] <jagginess> phong_, https.
[04:22] <phong_> oh okay thanks
[04:22] <chobbs> phong_: ssl web connections (https)
[04:23] <fn-troll> ikesmasher: Get a USB harddrive or something and copy all your essential files from that partition before playing with your partitions any further? :)
[04:23] <ikesmasher> fn-troll, theres nothing essential, so im good
[04:23] <phong_> chobbs, does it make sense?
[04:24] <fn-troll> Oh, I thought we were trying to recover files here >_>
[04:24] <ikesmasher> oh im trying to recover, it would just take weeks to redownload what ill lose if i format
[04:24] <ikesmasher> weeeks
[04:25] <chobbs> phong_, yes, but please keep it in channel.
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> ikesmasher: thats why you should have a regular backup scheduled
[04:25] <phong_> chobbs, not sure if it is allowed :)
[04:26] <ikesmasher> yea i dont quite have the resources to do that quite yet, this is just a laptop and i dont get to get a desktop+external hard drives for another month
[04:27] <ikesmasher> ive probably got about 300GB of games ill lose and have to redownload
[04:27]  * chobbs picked up a 2TB USB drive at Fry's last week for $109. Cheap insurance :)
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> chobbs: exactly....
[04:28] <ikesmasher> Cheap isnt a universal word.
[04:28] <ikesmasher> :/
[04:28] <ikesmasher> cheap is subjective
[04:28] <Pihro> got mine for$99
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> ikesmasher: well, think about how much those weeks of downloading will cost you
[04:29] <ikesmasher> probably a couple of keyboards with heads bashed into them xD
[04:29] <chobbs> ikesmasher: fair enough. re-downloading isn't too bad, but losing pics from your camera, OTOH, much more painful.
[04:29] <ActionPa1snip> people love learning the value of backups the hardest way possible
[04:29] <ikesmasher> yea we had an SD card get snapped in a car accident...pictures from the last 5 years, gone
[04:30] <ikesmasher> that was baddddd
[04:30] <ikesmasher> but yea, as soon as i get a desktop, im getting some sort of fallback plan
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> you can get a free 5Gb account at ubuntuone, you can put a bit of stuff there
[04:31] <ikesmasher> i do have a MS recovery partition, but its safe to assume i cant use that unless i can fix the actual partition table, right?
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> and 2Gb at dropbox
[04:31] <jagginess> ikesmasher, snapping an sdcard makes a car accident? geez
[04:31] <ikesmasher> lol
[04:31] <jagginess> ikesmasher, not like you had ducttaped the sdcard at the bumper of the car or anything
[04:32] <ikesmasher> well the car did a double barrel roll and the cameragot smashed into the windshield, the SD card came out, and was punctured by some glass.
[04:32] <phong_> chobbs, if i'm in sftp>   how to change the local directory?
[04:32] <ikesmasher> its like a 1 in a million chance
[04:32] <phong_> chobbs, once i logged into server sftp....within the command, how to change local directories around locally?
[04:33] <jagginess> ikesmasher, thats ridiculous you know everydetail of it flying through the windshield but.. you should keep your eyes on the road!
[04:33]  * chobbs wonders if it's considered rude in #ubuntut to siggest 'man command' :)
[04:33] <chobbs> s/suggest/siggest/
[04:33] <jagginess> chobbs, man is manual.. if the user is asking a very advanced geeky question about hexadecimals, i would refer him to some manual about it.. (hacker-level question)
[04:34] <chobbs> phong_: lcd changes local directory. Check 'man sftp' for other examples.
[04:34] <phong_> ok thanks chobbs
[04:34]  * Debolaz finds that some manual pages are highly defective even for people with a clue.
[04:34] <ikesmasher> theres not really a whole lot to watch when your rolling in a car, and i just saw the camera hit the winshield
[04:34] <jagginess> ikesmasher, ever hear of sdcards that can do wifi?
[04:34] <ikesmasher> yes
[04:34] <chobbs> phong_: Or get really lazt, and download filezilla. Nice scp client :)
[04:35] <chobbs> s/lazt/lazy/
[04:35] <gratciAZ> http://highscalability.com/
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> ried reading the mencoder manual...:)
[04:36]  * chobbs really likes Filezilla when browsing scp sites. If I know exactly what I'm after, scp on the command line works great.
[04:36] <jagginess> ikesmasher, i believe its pretty affordable.. think i'm going to buy one http://www.eye.fi/products/connectx2 .. btw speaking of cameras.. this dumb camera i bought left on the dust shelf never worked again :(..
[04:36] <ActionPa1snip> chobbs: nautilus can access SFTP quite happily
[04:36] <BTDT_Desk>  Good evening everyone
[04:36] <jagginess> ikesmasher, i'm gonna need a new camera here too lol
[04:36] <gratciAZ> evening
[04:36] <ikesmasher> aha yea its not fun
[04:37] <BTDT_Desk> Would anyone here happen to have experience and/or be running SLI?
[04:37] <BTDT_Desk> Trying to figure out if it's working appropriately or not
[04:37] <chobbs> ActionPa1snip:  Cool. Do you just use a sftp:// construct to use it?
[04:38] <ActionPa1snip> chobbs: under the file menu select 'connect to server' once initially connected then click bookmark -> add to bookmarks for easy access from the left panel of nautilus
[04:39] <jagginess> ikesmasher, looks like something is avail https://launchpad.net/eyefi in case you're wondering -- i think i'm gonna buy a eye-fi sometime.. i dont want to be in your case! heheh
[04:39] <chobbs> ActionPa1snip:  Great, thanks. Most of my work is on ubuntu servers, so I don't play in the GUI much. Filezilla on my mac bridges the gap when I'm moving files around.
[04:39] <ikesmasher> yea, i wish i had that
[04:39] <ikesmasher> so it like autotransfers
[04:39] <ikesmasher> ?
[04:40] <jagginess> ikesmasher, yes
[04:40] <himanshu_m786> how to install rpm file ?
[04:40] <jagginess> ikesmasher, i believe it gets prepped on the desktop, guessing that linux bundle can do it
[04:40] <ikesmasher> mhm
[04:41] <chobbs> himanshu_m786:  Never tried it, but found this via google: http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=121
[04:42] <BTDT_Desk> I am guessing that by the silence, noone's played with SLI
[04:43] <karen_Deckers_> Rype?
[04:43] <BTDT_Desk> Here's what I have going on right now... in Nvidia X Server Settings, I see GPU 0 and GPU 1, but there's nothing that specifically is saying that they're working in SLI
[04:43] <jagginess> ikesmasher, whats cool is that i have an ipod touch, there's a app i can use.. pretty
[04:44] <Opica> hi guys does anyone have expirience with HP dv7 sound issue in new ubuntu releases?
[04:44] <Opica> and how to get rid if it?
[04:44] <ikesmasher> so it transfers photos from your ipod to the PC whenever you connect to the network
[04:44] <ActionPa1snip> Opica: what is the issue?
[04:44] <ikesmasher> ?
[04:44] <Jonii> I have Ubuntu 12.04, and I'd like to have a separate launcher and separate place where I can access programs that I have opened
[04:45] <Jonii> Are there any good solutions to this? I had a quick glance of Apple OS X way of handling launcher, I liked that
[04:45] <jagginess> ikesmasher, actually its supposed labelled (it has high ratings inthe app store and is free), can pull photos from the camera to your ipod/iphone/ipad
[04:45] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: dash stores recent files and apps you have used..
[04:46] <ikesmasher> ohhh
[04:46] <ActionPa1snip> Opica: also, what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[04:46] <ikesmasher> thats cool too
[04:46] <zykotick9> BTDT_Desk: the fact you use cpu0 and 1 is probably a good sign.  can you start something graphically intensive, and return to a gpu0 & gpu1 monitor?
[04:46] <Opica> the issue is that my internal speakers arent working, only the the extern speakers.... i googled that is a issue od dv 5-7 hp laptops
[04:46] <jagginess> doesnt say ipod on their page, but i just instaleld it on my ipod..
[04:47] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: sure, but I'd like to have a nice, clear launcher that's either overview of all programs installed or overview of select few programs I might want to use
[04:47] <jagginess> ikesmasher, pretty good as it can serve as a backup automatically with apple's cloud service.. (apple gives 5gb free for basic cloud service)
[04:47] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: like so: http://www.linuxnov.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Dash-Home-Unity-5.2-Ubuntu-12.04-LTS-Precise-Pangolin.png
[04:47] <ikesmasher> ah.
[04:47] <BTDT_Desk> zykotick9, yeah, primary purpose for this computer is SL + blending so I can relegate that off my laptop. SL will run at around 20fps, which is why I am thinking they're not running in SLI
[04:47] <Jonii> Either works. Dashboard has way too few programs, and browsing it takes way too many clicks/button presses, it's not natural using it
[04:48] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you are describing dash, the 2nd icon at the bottom shows all the installed apps, the first are the recent apps and files..
[04:48] <zykotick9> BTDT_Desk: i've never run sli...
[04:48] <BTDT_Desk> I guess I'm just trying to see if there's any specific place, or a utility I can get, that will show if I am specifically running via SLI.
[04:48] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: there is gnomedo I guess
[04:48] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: 6 partially random programs with 2 clicks is not good enough. I'd want to have a selection of 10+ programs with 1 click
[04:48] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: gnome-do is mono :(
[04:49] <BTDT_Desk> since for all intents and purposes it simply looks like both video cards are installed and functioning, but they're not working in concert
[04:49] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: those are the recent programs, not random at all
[04:49] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: whatever you use it will be 2 clicks or a press and a click, think about it
[04:49] <Jonii> I need the visual aid of listing the programs there are. If I know what I'm going to open, I might as well win+type name+enter
[04:49] <himanshu_m786> chobbs : i have i386 type of rpm file . when i convert it in deb file .then it says that the architecture is for i386 . but i have i686 system .and i686 type file is not available on net .isn't a way to convert i386 type to i686 .?
[04:49] <kanupatar> Here is my issue, http://forums.freescale.com/t5/i-MX-Microprocessors/i-MX51-LTIB-Ubuntu-11-04-x86-64-glibc-devel/td-p/75501
[04:49] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: or you can press ALT+F2 and type app names
[04:49] <zykotick9> himanshu_m786: don't use alien
[04:50] <paulus68> I run squid and privoxy however I am not able to tell squid that it needs to pass privoxy any Ideas?
[04:50] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: win button seems a lot easier
[04:50] <jagginess> himanshu_m786, no you cant.. its too problematic.. what app is it? maybe its already avail for ubuntu
[04:50] <Jonii> it's able to guess
[04:50] <Opica> wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[04:50] <Opica> dmesg
[04:50] <Opica>   lspci
[04:50] <Opica>   lsmod
[04:50] <Opica>   aplay
[04:50] <Opica>   amixer
[04:50] <FloodBot1> Opica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <Opica>   alsactl
[04:50] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: anything you use will need 2 clicks though, one to initiate the selector, and the next to select, so how you get 2 clicks being not good enough is a mystery.
[04:51] <chobbs> himanshu_m786:  No idea, but others suggest no dice. If no deb package is available, can you get source and build it yourself?
[04:51] <himanshu_m786> jagginess : it is auction signing usb driver .
[04:52] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: with launcher as it is, you can have any program on launcher with 1 click. Also, the limitation of there being only 6 programs is a serious one, and the final nail to that coffin is how the list of programs displayed is not customizable
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Opica: try:  wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[04:52] <MrMirth1> i just pt together a dell d430 laptop with a solid state hard drive.  do i need to do anyhitng special for this?
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you can add apps to the launcher as you need
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you can slide it up and down and selct what you need and the launchers will compress etc
[04:53] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: that is true, but i want to separate launcher and open window manager
[04:53] <jagginess> MrMirth1, you can ship it to my address thank you :)
[04:54] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: I don't think that is possible, you could add a dock
[04:54] <karen_Deckers_> ..
[04:54] <Jonii> That was what I originally asked for. "Is it possible to separate those two things?"
[04:54] <MrMirth1> interestingly enough the solid state drive is made in the USA
[04:55] <paulus68> I run squid and privoxy however I am not able to tell squid that it needs to pass privoxy anyone on how to achieve this I already tried to get an answer in #squid (yesterday) but it was very calm there :(
[04:55] <ikesmasher> OK guys, i have a little moer generic problem. this is what gdisc says. "Warning! Secondary partition table overlaps the last partition by<PHONE_NUMBER> blocks! You will need to delete this partition or resize it in another utility."
[04:55] <kanupatar> hi guys
[04:55] <chobbs> MrMirth1:  Wow, what are the odds :) I love the SSD in my laptop. Insanely fast.
[04:55] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you could add a dock like AWN or docky, you can't get another Unity launcher
[04:55] <kanupatar> Here is my issue, http://forums.freescale.com/t5/i-MX-Microprocessors/i-MX51-LTIB-Ubuntu-11-04-x86-64-glibc-devel/td-p/75501
[04:55] <kanupatar> glibc-devel and zlib are not found in my machine/repo
[04:56] <MrMirth1> chobbs what brand is it?
[04:56] <Jonii> ActionPa1snip: I'd like to get rid of Unity Launcher, actually
[04:56] <chobbs> MrMirth1:  No idea. It shipped in my Mac.
[04:56] <Opica> dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh
[04:56]  * chobbs ducks.
[04:56] <Jonii> I don't like how it handles multiple open windows by same program
[04:56] <[an]droidman> MrMirth1: probably just assembled here so they could say that
[04:56] <MrMirth1> this is a  Super Talent
[04:57] <MonkeyDust> Jonii  unity is not the only DE or shell
[04:57] <[an]droidman> chobbs: don't worry...you're among people that won't physically hurt you, only emotionally
[04:57] <jagginess> ikesmasher, gdisc?
[04:57] <ikesmasher> gdisk*
[04:57] <Jonii> But anyway, I'd just want to separate open window management from launching applications. Having those two in same dock makes for a confusing UI
[04:57] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: +1 Jonii
[04:57] <jagginess> ikesmasher, that can happen if you manually partition your drive without resizing the filesystems (gparted prevents this)
[04:58] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you could enable the scale compiz plugin and use a hot cornet like Mac does to show all windows
[04:58] <chobbs> [sn]droidman: :) Most of my day is spent with a terminal on it open to my ubuntu servers :)
[04:58] <Jonii> MonkeyDust: but I like Unity overall a lot. It's safe, even though I dislike some of its design ideas
[04:58] <ikesmasher> can it happen with a very corrupted partition table? because it was working quite fine in windows...before i screwed crap up
[04:58] <MrMirth1> hmmmm might be a runcore
[04:58] <jagginess> ikesmasher, say you made a partition table, then made filesystems.., if you later edit the partition table, you'll need to resize the filesystems-- the GUI tools do both steps for you
[04:58] <ikesmasher> k
[04:58] <chobbs> s/sn/an/
[04:59] <jagginess> ikesmasher, its possible yuo lost data..
[04:59] <ikesmasher> the data is still there when i browse
[04:59] <ikesmasher> its all still there
[04:59] <jagginess> ikesmasher, doesnt mean anything
[04:59] <ActionPa1snip> Jonii: you could install Xubuntu instead then run a tonne of docks, one for each desktop side
[04:59] <[an]droidman> chobbs: the brackets always screw it up
[04:59] <ikesmasher> ?
[05:00] <jagginess> ikesmasher, the filesystem index doesnt mean the storage may have been overwritten (the index is at the beginning of the partition)
[05:00] <jagginess> ikesmasher, (filesystem index)
[05:01] <jagginess> ikesmasher, it's also bad.
[05:01] <jagginess> ikesmasher, you could have 2 filesystems corrupt..
[05:01] <ikesmasher> idk
[05:02] <jagginess> ikesmasher, did you format the last partition? then you're in real trouble..
[05:02] <paulus68> I run squid and privoxy however I am not able to tell squid that it needs to pass privoxy anyone on how to achieve this I already tried to get an answer in #squid (yesterday) but it was very calm there :(
[05:02] <ikesmasher> i have no idea what that means
[05:02] <jagginess> ikesmasher, (dotn format the last partition)
[05:02] <ikesmasher> i didnt no
[05:02] <jagginess> ikesmasher, well you did manually play around with the tables..
[05:02]  * chobbs is looking forward to getting his GT 430 card for his myth box tomorrow :)
[05:02] <jagginess> ikesmasher, good luck
[05:03] <ikesmasher> Jagginess, it says partitions 2 and 1, 3 and 1, 3 and 2, 4 and 1 overlap...mean anything
[05:04] <[an]droidman> chobbs: one day I'll build a great desktop...and light it on fire out of anger sparked from jealousy from this moment
[05:04] <ikesmasher> other then something bad i cant decipher
[05:05] <chobbs> [an]droidman:  It's a (fairly) cheap card. $60. Hoping to get audio out via HDMI on it. My mobo's HDMI isn't supported for audio out.
[05:05] <ikesmasher> ahwhat
[05:06] <jagginess> chobbs, then give me your motherboard :)
[05:07] <chobbs> jagginess:  well, I kinda need it to plug the card into :)
[05:07] <ikesmasher> CPUs? pchh, who needs those
[05:07] <jagginess> chobbs, maybe on bleeding-edge kernels the hdmi works from the motherboard
[05:07] <jagginess> chobbs, btw what audio chipset is used on the mothterboard?
[05:08] <chobbs> jagginess:  I'm being lazy, and running a pretty vanilla ubuntu setup for this box.
[05:08] <jagginess> chobbs, lspci -nn would say i suppose
[05:08] <chobbs> jagginess:  It's an ATI Radeon 4200
[05:08] <jagginess> chobbs, does audio too?
[05:09] <chobbs> switching to nvidia seems the right choice.
[05:09] <jagginess> tsk tsk
[05:09] <chobbs> jagginess:  It does under other OSes :(
[05:09] <jagginess> chobbs, try lspci -nn |pastebinit -t my post
[05:09] <ikesmasher> OK my hd has about 9 problems, and 4 warnings from gdisk
[05:09] <jagginess> chobbs, ,/mypost (nospaces)
[05:09] <[an]droidman> Yeah, tell that to Linus Torvalds
[05:10] <ikesmasher> it says all 4 partitions are "too big for the disc"
[05:10] <chobbs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097780/
[05:11] <owler> How do I get the spellchecker to work on libreoffice?
[05:11] <[an]droidman> chobbs: got enough AMD?
[05:12] <chobbs> [an]droidman:  Just a tad :)
[05:12] <jagginess> chobbs, lsmod |grep -i hda .. i see a kernel <IP_ADDRESS> -- using module snd-hda-intel
[05:12] <ikesmasher> final question, is ther anything wrong with leaving a live CD booted up for a day or two?
[05:12] <jagginess> chobbs, aplay -L  shows the ati ?
[05:12] <chobbs> [an]droidman:  The rest of the system works briliiantly. Once I get hdmi audio out, I'll be a happy camper.
[05:12] <ActionPa1snip> owler: if you press F7, doesit spellcheck?
[05:12] <gitesh> after installing kde, i have well broken Gnome login screen. How do I make it better again?
[05:13] <owler> ActionPa1snip, nope
[05:13] <blackli410> what?
[05:13] <chobbs> jagginess:  I'm done troubleshooting. Discovered it is a known but unfixed issue. Pretty sure the new card will solve it (and outperform it on video pretty soundly too).
[05:13] <OerHeks> blackli410, what?
[05:13] <ikesmasher> final question, is ther anything wrong with leaving a live CD booted up for a day or two?
[05:13] <jagginess> chobbs, actually the latest kernel would have it working ( https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137352 ) <
[05:14] <owler> ActionPa1snip, Placing the issue on the search engine does not seem to yield a clear answer either.
[05:14] <jagginess> chobbs, you'll need to use backports to use a 3.xx kernel.. it would be supported by snd-hda-intel module
[05:14] <blackli410> 1689
[05:14] <ActionPa1snip> owler: http://www.jorink.nl/2010/03/install-spellchecker-in-openoffice-on-ubuntu-9-10/   may help
[05:14] <jagginess> chobbs, i know it'll work because the arch guy has the same "[1002:970f]" vendor/device id
[05:14] <paulus68> ActionPa1snip: Do you have any knowledge on proxy configuration?
[05:14] <blackli410> how do use
[05:15] <chobbs> jagginess:  More work than I'm interested in doing, since swapping the card should[1] get me everything I need. [1] Famous last words...
[05:15] <ActionPa1snip> i've used polipo in the past
[05:15] <chobbs> jagginess:  But interesting to know though. Thanks for looking it up!
[05:16] <jagginess> chobbs, it's a simple bpo, add, then apt-get install <kernel> voila :)
[05:16] <jagginess> !backports
[05:16] <paulus68> ActionPa1snip: do you know how to chain squid with privoxy I can't seem to get it to work correctly :(
[05:16] <ActionPa1snip> paulus68: no idea man, have you tried in #squid
[05:16] <jagginess> chobbs, it's worth the shot, (you can save the 60bucks for a return if the onboard works)
[05:17] <paulus68> ActionPa1snip: yes but they are quit sleepy there :(
[05:17] <chobbs> jagginess:  Damn it, fine, I'm cutting and pasting to try before I crack the package :)
[05:17] <owler> ActionPa1snip, F7 does not give me the chance to select spelling/grammar
[05:18] <ys23> how would i set a password using the terminal without interactivity
[05:18] <owler> ActionPa1snip, It just asks whether I want to spell check from the start of the document then autoshuts because there is no dictionary to pick from
[05:18] <ActionPa1snip> owler: seems to use  myspell* packages, use tab to autocomplete the name
[05:18] <chobbs> jagginess:  I do appreciate the tip. It'll be interesting to see if it solves it.
[05:18] <ActionPa1snip> owler: sudo apt-get install aspell aspell-en dictionaries-common hunspell-en-us myspell-en-us
[05:19] <TMD> Where  tom?
[05:19] <ys23> is it possible to do something like useradd username password?
[05:19] <jagginess> chobbs, takes two seconds.. add the backports, apt-get update, then apt-get install the latest kernel (apt-cache search linux-image , if you're not sure which one)
[05:20] <TMD> quit
[05:20] <jagginess> chobbs, (add deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-backports main restricted universe multiverse      to /etc/apt/sources.list  -- modify oneiric to your own release, then apt-get update)
[05:20] <meditator> Hello.. could anyone help me out with a bash script please?
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> ys23: sudo useradd username -p password
[05:20] <chobbs> jagginess:  Cool. I'll give it a go.
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> ys23: man useradd...works a treat
[05:21] <ys23> ActionPalsnip: hmm i recall being able to do this although i didn't see this option in the man
[05:21] <jagginess> chobbs, the one on the wiki has "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-backports main restricted universe multiverse"   (you may need to change lucid to whatever release you're using)
[05:21] <owler> ActionPa1snip, http://pastebin.com/7aBqpvwy
[05:21] <chobbs> jagginess:  So that becomes precise-backports then.
[05:22] <owler> ActionPa1snip, That command you gave has some issues
[05:22] <meditator> I have a number of folders (around 150) - there are 5-6 mp3 files in each folder  (tracked) I want to write a script that goes into each folder and joins all the mp3 files into one file and names it as the folder name
[05:22] <elikzir> How do i set a program to automatically open any file with a certain extension in 12.04?
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> owler: then try just: sudo apt-get install aspell aspell-en
[05:22] <meditator> can this be done easily with a bash script ?
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> owler: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[05:23] <owler> ActionPa1snip, Precise
[05:23] <jagginess> chobbs, try "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse"
[05:23] <jagginess> elikzir, nautilus-actions (apt-get)
[05:24] <owler> ActionPa1snip, That other command yields 0 installed because everything is already latest and greatest
[05:24] <MonkeyDust> meditator  find ~ -name "mp3" -exec mv {} ;\ [new folder]
[05:24] <MonkeyDust> meditator  try that
[05:24] <elikzir> so if i wanted every .jar file to open with javasdk instead of archive manager, i would do what exactly? Thanks for the help
[05:24] <jagginess> MonkeyDust, thats incomplete
[05:25] <MonkeyDust> jagginess  feel free to complete the command
[05:25] <MonkeyDust> maybe i can learn myself
[05:25] <ActionPa1snip> owler: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72099/how-to-install-a-libreoffice-dictionary-spelling-check-thesaurus
[05:26] <ActionPa1snip> owler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice#Language_localization.2C_spell_checking.2C_dictionary.2C_hyphenation.2C_thesaurus.2C_and_help
[05:26] <martini> rigth-click on the file, open with. then set, what you want
[05:26] <MonkeyDust> meditator  try this    find ~ -name ".mp3" -exec mv {} [new folder];\
[05:26] <elikzir> martini but that only works with a single file
[05:26] <meditator> MonkeyDust, thanks for that.. i'll try it right away and let you know .. gimme a min
[05:26] <chobbs> jagginess:  If I'm reading his posts right, he went back to a 2.6 kernel? I'm running 3.2.0-26 in precise.
[05:26] <ActionPa1snip> owler: seems to be manually installable: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/dictionaries
[05:27] <greasegum> gah! my system choked during an install from livecd
[05:27] <wesley_> So, on a lot of servers I keep getting a "Could not resolve your host name; Domain name not found" error
[05:27] <greasegum> now I can't boot to any partition, halp
[05:27] <wesley_> On IRC
[05:27] <wesley_> Anyone know a fix?
[05:28] <jagginess> chobbs, he didnt have snd-hda-intel modprobing properly.. but it is the 3.2.9 kernel he's using
[05:28] <martini> maybe reinstall bootloader?
[05:28] <jagginess> chobbs, uname -a shows your kernel.. you rebooted? (you know which linux-image to install? -> apt-cache search linux-image|pastebinit -t aptoutput )
[05:29] <greasegum> martini: all I can do is boot to a crappy fedora live cd now
[05:29] <elikzir> greasegum ive found that trying again or making a liveusb has worked for me
[05:29] <goddard> how can i share a wireless mouse and keyboard between multiple computers
[05:30] <chobbs> jagginess:  I'm only seeing 3.2.0 kernels in my search. Lemme check my sources again
[05:30] <ghostchick> goddard,  synergy
[05:30] <jagginess> chobbs, what's the list you get? (if its still not working try using the latest)
[05:30] <martini> from there you should be able to reinstall it
[05:31] <jagginess> chobbs, "apt-cache policy <packagename>" would say if its from backprots
[05:31] <greasegum> elikzir: for some reason the fedora live cd won't mount my usb drive
[05:31] <meditator> MonkeyDust, it didnt work .. when i run it as a bash script nothing happens.. when i type it in the terminal it asks me for an input with ">"
[05:31] <greasegum> martini: what's a utility to reinstall the bootloader?
[05:31] <goddard> ghostchick: its a application?
[05:31] <jagginess> goddard, synergy (can also do multi-platform)
[05:31] <MonkeyDust> meditator  try this    find ~ -name ".mp3" -exec mv {} [new folder] ;\       i forgot a space
[05:31] <goddard> ghostchick: hmm thats different
[05:31] <elikzir> I believe you can make a liveusb from a livecd
[05:32] <owler> ActionPa1snip, It works, thanks. Without you, Ubuntu seems to be a cruddy distro.
[05:32] <chobbs> jagginess:  Here's my list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097798/
[05:32] <chobbs> jagginess:  and I'm running 3.2.0-26-generic
[05:32] <MonkeyDust> meditator  try this    find ~ -name ".mp3" -exec mv {} [new folder] \;       it's first a slash, then a colon
[05:33] <owler> ActionPa1snip, Because it is not easy to figure that out based on the plethora of docs out there at odds with one another
[05:33] <elikzir> so how can i assign extension ".jar" to automatically open with java? id rather not right-click every single file
[05:33] <martini> greasegum: "Super GRUB disk" should work. you can put it on a stick with unetbootin
[05:33] <elikzir> *javasdk sorry
[05:33] <jagginess> chobbs, lsmod |grep snd-hda-intel   , is it there? If not, then modprobe snd-hda-intel , then aplay -L  (list devices)
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> whats a good data eraser, so data recovery software can't recover?
[05:34] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  wipe, or wiper
[05:34] <ghostchick> goddard,  please be  clearer on you  program requirement then
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !info wipe
[05:34] <meditator> MonkeyDust, still same result..
[05:34] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  it's in the repos
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Monkeydust: tnx alot mate
[05:34] <chobbs> jagginess:  negative, it is not there. modprobe doesn't install it.
[05:34] <goddard> ghostchick: huh?
[05:34] <jagginess> elikzir, ther's a packge for that.. i forget the name for it (try ubuntu wiki)
[05:34] <MonkeyDust> meditator  no success? strange....
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: will it work for all Os recovery software?
[05:34] <jagginess> chobbs, can it be blacklisted?
[05:34] <elikzir> *sigh* okay, ill look again, thanks jagginess
[05:35] <chobbs> jagginess:  ahhh, it's sda_hda_intel :)
[05:35] <jagginess> chobbs, ok :)
[05:35] <ghostchick> goddard,  you said synergy don't cut it so what exactly are you looking for
[05:35] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  in a termional, type apt-cache show wipe for more details
[05:35] <jagginess> chobbs, aplay -L ?
[05:35] <jagginess> goddard, there's a front end in linux called quick synergy and it works quite well
[05:36] <chobbs> The device is (and has been) listed. It just doesn't put out any sound. And it is balcklisted, now that I think about it. When I forced it to not be blacklisted, I got no video. (The hours of pulling my hair out are omcing back to me now).
[05:36] <goddard> jagginess: cool
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: looks good! tnx again
[05:36] <jagginess> chobbs, grep -Ri snd-hda-intel /etc/modprobe.d/*  (or snd_hda_intel)
[05:37] <chobbs> jagginess:  No hits on tht grep.
[05:37] <jagginess> chobbs, so its not in any blacklist file.. but you do get it listed..
[05:38] <jagginess> chobbs, how many audio playback devices are listed?
[05:38] <chobbs> jagginess:  aplay -L: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097801/
[05:39] <meditator> MonkeyDust, was that for a bash script or just type in the terminal? does it make any difference ?
[05:39] <MrMirth> ok  this is weird. was using the network on the delld430 that i jsut installed ubunu ok.  shut it off and moved upstairs and now the network doesnt work
[05:39] <MrMirth> any help?
[05:39] <MonkeyDust> meditator  just in a terminal
[05:40] <pardi> ubuntu 12.04 LTS Radeon 4250 trouble, help :(
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !ask | pardi
[05:41] <jagginess> chobbs, i believe its the same ~/.asoundrc you can try..
[05:41] <chobbs> jagginess:  Yeah, I tried it with no joy. Looks like it should be the same.
[05:42] <jagginess> chobbs, i believe there's another expression format, you can try pcm "hw:x,y" if im correct..
[05:43] <meditator> MonkeyDust, if i just go into each folder and do a "cat *.mp3 > outputname.mp3" it works.. but i will have to type it 150 times... so was looking to get a script
[05:43] <chobbs> jagginess:  just a single line like this? pcm "hw:1,3"
[05:43] <MonkeyDust> meditator  i'm testing a similar script here
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> pardi:whats your question mate?
[05:44] <meditator> MonkeyDust, thanks.. i'll wait
[05:45] <jagginess> chobbs, there's the alsa site.. but i think the arch guy is sloppy on his .asoundrc and was lucky.. you ought to have something
[05:45] <MrMirth> im needing to install a flash plugin.  is their a recommended one?
[05:45] <MEEDORIKEX> Hello, does anyone have the experience in changing the MAC address of a # 3G network adapter/card/modem?
[05:45] <MonkeyDust> meditator  best is to not wait for only me, repeat the question from time to time (but not too often)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> MrMirth: the one from software centre, adobe flash plugin
[05:46] <jagginess> chobbs, gonna see
[05:46] <meditator> MonkeyDust,  alright thanks
[05:46] <meditator> Hello, could anyone help me out with a script please?
[05:46] <meditator> I have a number of folders (around 150) - there are 5-6 mp3 files in each folder  (tracked). I want to write a script that goes into each folder and joins all the mp3 files into one file and names the new file as "folder name.mp3"
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> MEEDORIKEX: try that mate
[05:47] <jagginess> chobbs, http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=133664  -- thre's "speaker-test -D plug:hdmi"
[05:48] <jagginess> chobbs, alsa is a b** they should make it easier for us
[05:49] <MonkeyDust> meditator  found it, works here
[05:49] <starbuck33> hi, does somebody know a bit about vim syntax highlighting?
[05:49] <meditator> MonkeyDust, so it is the same script you told me earlier is it?
[05:50] <starbuck33> i need to change a color in the python syntax highlighting scheme
[05:50] <MonkeyDust> meditator  it's    find ~ -name "*.mp3" -exec cp {} ~/test/ \;        replace test by whatever name you choose
[05:50] <chobbs> jagginess:  Can I assume the GUI speaker test in mythtv would have tried the same tests? Because I can see the HDMI devices listed in there, but no joy on playing through them.
[05:50] <MonkeyDust> meditator  you may want to use mv instead of cp
[05:52] <jagginess> chobbs, hey that chipset is "certified" whatever that means lol http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:1002:970F-AUDIO/
[05:53] <jagginess> chobbs, i believe you can get it to work.. provided the full/proper ~/.asoundrc file is set
[05:53] <jagginess> chobbs, btw does alsamixer run?
[05:54] <chobbs> jagginess:  I'm trying different variants of aplay -D device:card,channel something.wav woth no effect.
[05:54] <chobbs> s/woth/with/
[05:54] <chobbs> jagginess:  alsamixer runs just fine
[05:55] <jagginess> chobbs, "Sound plays through the HDMI connected TV speakers, but ONLY using aplay"  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/201926
[05:56] <chobbs> jagginess:  Except that it doesn't play through aplay
[05:57] <chobbs> jagginess:  Gonna shut down here. really appreciate the effort. Crossing my finger that dropping in the GT430 makes this annoyance go away :)
[05:57] <jagginess> chobbs, maybe add your user to "audio media pulse pulse-access" groups
[05:57] <L3top> chobbs: sudo aplay -l | grep -i hdmi
[05:58] <jagginess> chobbs, "Txoof can play media in Unity and the default output goes through the HDMI connected TV as expected."
[05:58] <L3top> chobbs: I can probably get this working... but if you are shutting down... well... I have poo timing as usual.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:58] <chobbs> lol
[05:58] <chobbs> THanks for the help and the offer of it :)
[05:59] <chobbs> L3top:  card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[05:59] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[06:00] <chobbs> The device is clearly present. ALSA knows about it, mythtv knows about it, but nothing is put out on it.
[06:00] <chobbs> L3top:  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 [Radeon HD 4250] [1002:9715]
[06:01] <jagginess> chobbs, did you see the bottom of the ppa? .. apparently txoof succesfully plays back through hdmi (try using the same member groups, especially "puse pulse-access  pulse-rt medla audio"
[06:01] <jagginess> ,/pulse
[06:02] <chobbs> Frankly, since the nvidia card gets such high marks from the mythtv folks, and seems to fully supported on ubuntu, I think I'll wait for my package to show up tomorrow and throw it in :)
[06:02] <an0n> It's worth a partition of 80 gb hd
[06:02] <tking> hello community, pls i need advise http://ad-upload.com/424/424.csv this file opens when downloaded and this doesn't http://ad-upload.com/425/425.csv  on ubuntu but both opens on windows but i only use ubuntu
[06:03] <L3top> The way I deal with it is blacklist the intel (card 0) forcing the ATI into card 0s spot... then aplay is happy with it... but yes... the nvidia is a lot less headache... though you will probably have to do the same thing... depending.
[06:03] <jagginess> chobbs, you should give a feedback entry, saying the problem is on your system too.. helps bring awareness tothe problem
[06:03] <chobbs> jagginess:  Checked, user is membre of all groups (except media, which does not exist on my system)
[06:04] <jagginess> chobbs, what does it say in pulseuadio.conf ?
[06:04] <jagginess> chobbs, and /etc/asound.conf ?
[06:05] <chobbs> L3top:  Interesting. There should be no intel on my AMD board though?
[06:05] <an0n> what is most suitable for a 80gb hd partition C: D: or use only one partition
[06:05] <L3top> chobbs: sudo aplay -l | grep card0
[06:05] <chobbs> no asound.conf, no pulseaudio.conf that I can see
[06:05] <chobbs> L3top:  no output
[06:05] <L3top> yeah.. sorry
[06:05] <MonkeyDust> an0n  linux does not use letters C D etc, it uses partition
[06:05] <MonkeyDust> s
[06:05] <L3top> chobbs: sudo aplay -l | grep 'card 0'
[06:06] <an0n> MonkeyDust: yes
[06:06] <chobbs> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
[06:06] <chobbs> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> an0n: i would go for the whole disk as 1 partition
[06:06] <jagginess> ok, so it starts from 0..
[06:06]  * chobbs avoids the floodbot :)
[06:06] <jagginess> chobbs, ^
[06:06] <jagginess> chobbs, you tried 1 as a literal.. looks like the enumeration starts from zero
[06:07] <an0n> MonkeyDust: to use the windows xp
[06:07] <tking> hello community, pls i need advise http://ad-upload.com/424/424.csv this file opens when downloaded and this doesn't http://ad-upload.com/425/425.csv  on ubuntu but both opens on windows but i only use ubuntu
[06:07] <chobbs> jagginess:  ? Not following.
[06:08] <L3top> mk... then I would dump the SB I assumed the ati was an addon, not onboard... sorry chobbs. Was trying to go quick and greasy. HDMI, in my experience, WANTS very badly to be in card 0s slot.
[06:08] <jagginess> chobbs, for the ~/.asoundrc or other tests, the soundcard#0 is used instead of "1" (as the arch guy has in his setting)
[06:09] <L3top> chobbs: speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -l 1 -D hw:1,3
[06:09] <chobbs> L3top:  Interesting. So I need to blacklist the SB device so that HDMI gets promoted oto that slot?
[06:09] <L3top> correct chobbs.
[06:09] <jagginess> chobbs, aplay -L doesnt show the numbers as clearly? (you mentioned you did aplay -l that looks better)
[06:10] <chobbs> L3top:  speaker-test runs, but no output
[06:10] <jagginess> L3top, he's trying to get hdmi to work
[06:10] <jagginess> chobbs, but what is plugged in? (analog and hdmi?)
[06:11] <L3top> I am aware jagginess. chobbs, to be clear you have unmuted everything... including using f6 and swapping to card 1 in alsamixer?
[06:11] <ActionPa1snip> L3top: is there an alsa URL?
[06:11] <summershyn> who can tell me that what's the meanning of casper when we use the grub command "kernel /vmlinuz boot=casper"?
[06:11] <chobbs> jagginess:  both. switching on my receiver to see if anything is coming out.
[06:12] <ActionPa1snip> summershyn: it;s the compressed file on the liveCD as far as I am aware
[06:12] <an0n> lotuspsychje: In a 80 gb hd windows xp sp3 would install the entire hd or create two partitions C (system) and D (data)
[06:12] <L3top> chobbs: Or you can just use this: amixdigital=$(amixer | grep "Simple" | cut -d' ' -f4,5,6 | sort | uniq); for output in $amixdigital; do amixer sset $output unmute; done 2>/dev/null; alsactl store     that will unmute everything.
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> an0n: this is an ubuntu channel, not windows help
[06:12] <L3top> I am not sure I follow ActionPa1snip.
[06:12] <ActionPa1snip> summershyn: the casper file uses squashfs and holds the live environemt
[06:12] <chobbs> L3top:  correct, I;ve used alsamixer to ensure that card 1 (HDMI) is unmuted. It shows as S/PDIF, which seems right?
[06:13] <MonkeyDust> an0n  type /join ##windows
[06:13] <ActionPa1snip> L3top: the alsa-info.sh file, has it been used to generate the alsa info URL?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> an0n: i would sugest installing ubuntu fast and loose windows :p
[06:14] <L3top> ActionPa1snip: until you can pipe sound directly using aplay, a config file isn't going to help, unless I still misunderstand. The term URL is foriegn to me in this regard.
[06:16] <psakrii>  /msg NickServ identify micheal22
[06:16] <chobbs> L3top:  So if I wanted to blacklist the SB device, how would I do so?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:17] <L3top> chobbs: It can appear as s/pdif... or iec958xx etc, or HDMI... if you press f6 in alsamixer what are your options?
[06:17] <an0n> lotuspsychje: Yes, it was unfortunately difficult to run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with two monitors and the alternative for now is to use windows xp. If I can take that question as long ago not format with windows xp
[06:17] <chobbs> L3top:  just card 0 (HDA ATI SB) and card 1 (HDA ATI HDMI)
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> an0n: its possible to run 2 monitors on ubuntu
[06:18] <L3top> and if you choose card 1 it shows as spdif?
[06:18] <chobbs> L3top:  correct
[06:18] <ActionPa1snip> L3top: you know 'wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh'
[06:18] <an0n> lotuspsychje: In a radeon xpress 200m?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> an0n: all you need to do is ask in channel howto
[06:19] <jagginess> spots "aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows how that package name is called for 2 monitors?
[06:19] <jagginess> lotuspsychje, xrandr command ?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> yes tnx
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !info xrandr | an0n
[06:20] <DanielSP> psakrii : use this to change your password: /nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:20] <DanielSP> psakrii : use this to change your password: /nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !info Xrandr
[06:21] <jagginess> chobbs, i'm still waiting for this raspberry pi and intend to use it's hdmi output hehehe
[06:21] <jagginess> its a command not a package
[06:21] <chobbs> jagginess:  sweet
[06:21] <jagginess> (xrandr)
[06:21] <kanupatar> hi guys
[06:21] <kanupatar> how can i see network proxy in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> an0n:http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/xrandr.1.html
[06:22] <jagginess> chobbs, a caveat is i need to use an hdmi-rca converter to bring back to life a old stereo set
[06:22] <jagginess> chobbs, my choke is gonna be for making sure the converter is compatible with the hdmi port..
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !info randr
[06:22] <chobbs> L3top:  Can I just add 'blacklist snd_hda_intel' to balcklist.conf and reboot?
[06:22] <jagginess> lotuspsychje, /msg ubottu <keyword>
[06:23] <jagginess> chobbs, did you try that last shot? (mentioned an aplay command)
[06:23] <meditator> MonkeyDust, i tried in #bash.. got the solution.. thought i'd let you know as well.. it is a single line bash script ... for f in ./*; do cat "$f"/*.mp3 > "$f"/"$f".mp3 done
[06:23]  * jagginess "aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[06:23] <meditator> MonkeyDust, thanks for your help
[06:24] <superlinux-hp> I have a flash drive Sony pendrive that is recognized by dmesg . but lsusb does not see it. the system does not mount it. this one has FM radio and a recorder and an MP3 player. what should I do?
[06:24] <jagginess> DanielSP, psakrii /msg Nickerv help   (use /msg  nickserv)
[06:24] <an0n> lotuspsychje: What happens is that when I use two monitors with their respective resolutions I have to use both in a lower resolution since radeon xpress 200 m does not have full support
[06:24] <L3top> What I would do is try something like options hda-ati-sb model=auto  to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf... but I am looking for the correct verbiage...
[06:24] <L3top> chobbs: ^
[06:25] <chobbs> jagginess:  The one here? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/201926 No joy.
[06:25] <jagginess> an0n, it's a pita.. i tried helping someone on this.. they almost got it working .. this stuff is either broked/too much pita/ or maybe just geek luck i guess..
[06:25] <L3top> to be honest I have never run across this on ati with intel being involved... still looking chobbs.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> an0n:its worth a try with latest ati drivers for ubuntu and xrandr
[06:26] <jagginess> L3top, ouch another module can load that ati hdmi..
[06:26] <jagginess> OO
[06:26] <jagginess> omfg.. linux is so cruel
[06:26] <jagginess> lol
[06:26] <chobbs> L3top:  There are some lines with the following comment aove them: "# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0" Is that what I'm looking for?
[06:27] <MonkeyDust> meditator  great, but my script *did* work for me :-)
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> an0n: man xrandr in terminal
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:28] <jagginess> an0n, it wont work, it'll take more than xrandr..
[06:28] <jagginess> an0n, and this is where it gets really geeky
[06:29] <an0n> lotuspsychje: yes
[06:29] <jagginess> an0n, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/
[06:30] <chobbs> L3top:  OK, I have HDMI in card 0 now :) Let's see oif that helps
[06:31] <L3top> chobbs run this again sudo speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -l 1 -D hw:1,3
[06:32] <chobbs> L3top:  It should be hw:0,3 now, right, but still no audio :(
[06:32] <L3top> this just sends a sine noise at 48000... nicer than pink noise and not dependant on codecs... its just a safe quick I work or dont.
[06:32] <L3top> doh
[06:32] <L3top> good point on the 0.
[06:32] <tking> hello community, pls i need advise http://ad-upload.com/424/424.csv this file opens when downloaded and this doesn't http://ad-upload.com/425/425.csv  on ubuntu but both opens on windows but i only use ubuntu
[06:32] <L3top> chobbs: and this is going to the TV or an amp?
[06:32] <L3top> from hdmi
[06:32] <chobbs> L3top:  TV first, then amp.
[06:32] <chobbs> L3top:  And my roku works just fine through the tv
[06:33] <L3top> chobbs: how did you get that HDMI into position 0 btw?
[06:33] <jagginess> chobbs, i was once in this sound fixing positiong, it really is awful :o lol http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=67e_1342349298  ( good luck sorry i couldnt get it fixed for ya )
[06:33] <jagginess> gnite everyone
[06:35] <chobbs> L3top:  Added the following to alsa-base.conf: options snd-hda-intel index=-2
[06:35] <L3top> should just stick with the tv for now chobbs.
[06:35] <L3top> chobbs: so there is nothing in card 1 then correct?
[06:36] <L3top> One second... there is something weird you have to do for ATI I remember now.
[06:36] <chobbs> L3top:  card 1 is now the SB
[06:36] <L3top> o rlly
[06:36] <L3top> oh btw, did you just reload alsa after that?
[06:37] <chobbs> L3top:  right. what i added forced it out of slot 0. I rebooted.
[06:38] <L3top> btw chobbs are you using the fglrx driver in the repo?
[06:38] <kohvihoor> how big is the performance penalty on using ubuntu installed with wubi vs native?
[06:38] <chobbs> L3top:  I've got fglrx loaded. How do I confirm that I have it from the repo?
[06:38] <kohvihoor> google offers only some old articles on this
[06:39] <L3top> thats it.. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[06:39] <L3top> do dat and reboot.
[06:39] <chobbs> L3top:  OK, I had tried that before, and ended up with a black screen.
[06:39] <L3top> chobbs: if you didnt download the driver from ATI, then you got it from the repo
[06:39] <chobbs> L3top:  Which is when I was convinced I wasn't going to get this card working :)
[06:39] <chobbs> s/was/got/
[06:40] <L3top> chobbs: then you have to update grub... this is the only way it can work afaik.
[06:40] <chobbs> L3top:  pretty sure I'm using the repo driver.
[06:40] <L3top> btw chobbs... do not be too eager to get the latest ATI stuff... they have dropped support for your card.
[06:41] <L3top> will no longer work.
[06:41] <chobbs> L3top:  I've got a new GT 430 showing up tomorrow :) It should get me going (especially with the hint about forcing the onboard SB into card 1.
[06:41] <L3top> anything past 12-5 on their side.
[06:42] <L3top> gt 430 is a pain in the buttox too.
[06:42] <chobbs> L3top:  I didn't need to hear that :(
[06:42] <chobbs> L3top:  The mythtv folks seem to like it :/
[06:42] <L3top> less of a pain than the ATI.
[06:43] <L3top> Our project uses Myth... but we are on an older version... I am sure it will be fine.
[06:43] <chobbs> L3top:  when you say update grub, are you talking about something from backports?
[06:44] <L3top> chobbs: after you add radeon.audio=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT        you have to update grub
[06:44] <chobbs> actually, looking now and I do have radeon.audio=1 in my grub
[06:45] <chobbs> L3top:  and I'm looking at it at boot time, so it was updated
[06:45] <L3top> chu must to sudo update-grub !!! lol
[06:45] <L3top> got black screen?
[06:46] <L3top> this is a kernel bug btw.
[06:46] <chobbs> no, no, I rebooted and went into edit mode in grub to see the settings.
[06:46] <chobbs> so it's been turned on since the last time I trid to tackle this (45 days ago)
[06:46] <L3top> k
[06:46] <L3top> please to update-grub
[06:46] <L3top> lol
[06:46] <L3top> I am just a stickler for routine.
[06:47] <L3top> certainly wont hurt anything.
[06:47] <chobbs> L3top:  sure, stand by a bit
[06:48] <chobbs> rebooting...
[06:48] <Phoebus> Anyone having issues shutting down or rebooting ubuntu from the gui? I get sent back to the login screen. So I just issues reboot / halt via ssh instead.
[06:49] <Phoebus> And that's on two separate boxes.
[06:49] <MonkeyDust> Phoebus  i had that too.... in a terminal, type sudo shutdown -h now     next time, it will shut down as it should
[06:50] <MonkeyDust> Phoebus  or rather, sudo shutdown -r now      r for restart
[06:50]  * L3top thinks he was right with the -h
[06:51] <chobbs> L3top:  rebooted, everything working the same :/
[06:52] <L3top> well pudu.
[06:53] <L3top> you are running aplay as sudo right?
[06:53] <chobbs> L3top:  Yup.  I'll give the 430 a shot tomorrow and see how it works.
[06:53] <Phoebus> MonkeyDust, roger that, cheers.
[06:53] <chobbs> L3top:  negative, as my primary user.
[06:53] <L3top> as/with
[06:53] <D1> hi need help with ubuntu
[06:54] <D1> anyone online?
[06:54] <chobbs> L3top:  no diff via sudo
[06:54] <D1> Is about booting it up... I downloaded from the original site
[06:54] <D1> and it didnt work
[06:54] <D1> the instalation "trial" does not load
[06:54] <L3top> can I, for the last time, get sudo aplay -l | grep -i hdmi
[06:54] <L3top> chobbs: ^
[06:54]  * D1 ...
[06:55] <chobbs> L3top:  card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[06:55] <ReXiO> D1: Try, at the boot screen, check disk for errors
[06:55] <D1> ReXiO: I tried CD, it just freezes
[06:55] <D1> ReXiO: tried USB as well, it just freezes
[06:55] <L3top> !enter | D1
[06:55] <D1> ReXiO: I forced it with F12
[06:56] <Douglas> Hello!
[06:56] <L3top> D1 have you checked the md5sum of the image you are burning?
[06:57] <D1> L3top: i do not know what that is, i simply burnt the image with Alcohol 120% on a DVD
[06:57] <chobbs> L3top:  Thanks a ton for the effort. Would have been niceto have pulled it off :)
[06:57] <ReXiO> D1: check md5 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[06:57] <D1> ReXiO: ok i will have read
[06:57] <L3top> sorry chobbs... will see you tomorrow with the new nvidia.
[06:58] <chobbs> L3top:  you bet *poof*
[06:58] <D1> ReXiO: ok, i see. It seems complicated. where do i start?
[06:58] <D1> ReXiO: I am running on Windows 7
[06:58] <D1> ReXiO: idk. I dont do computing. where do i enter commands and etc...
[06:59] <MonkeyDust> D1  you're in the wrong channel, no windows support here
[06:59] <D1> MonkeyDust: I cannot install it, so I have to use window!?
[06:59] <L3top> It is in the link D1 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[06:59] <Douglas> Hey can someone give me a hand? I'm trying to install a dual boot of ubuntu alongside windows. I get to grub and select ubuntu, but then it just boots to a terminal and does nothing. Any advice?
[06:59] <MonkeyDust> D1  you said you are in windows right now
[07:00] <D1> MonkeyDust: I am trying to put Ubuntu on a disk run and it is not working... How do you expect me to get help if i cant ask from an OS
[07:00] <D1> L3top: cool, checking it now
[07:01] <L3top> Douglas, it sounds like your DE is not loading. In this terminal, is it prompting you to login?
[07:01] <Douglas> it's just a blinking _ awaiting input
[07:01] <Douglas> should I try "startx" ?
[07:02] <L3top> If it aint asking you for a login... that aint gonna go
[07:02] <L3top> You have to login before you can issue commands.
[07:03] <L3top> Douglas: if you hit ctrl alt f2 do you get a login prompt at terminal?
[07:03] <Douglas> alt f2 doesn't open anything. I can enter text but it's just kinda.. meaningless
[07:03] <L3top> ctrl alt f2?
[07:04] <L3top> It should take you to tty2
[07:04] <L3top> which may have a login prompt... if it got that far before hanging
[07:04] <S_kthi> Hi I ubuntu 12.04 along with windows 7. My problem compiz keeps crashing often.
[07:04] <Douglas> we're gonna try a reinstall for now. I'll get back to you afterwards. Thanks for the quick reply though! I'll get back to you.
[07:05] <D1> L3top: ok, i got this for the ISO image downloaded from the official website d791352694374f1c478779f7f4447a3f
[07:05] <L3top> S_kthi: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[07:05] <D1> L3top: Is this normal?
[07:06] <L3top> !md5sum
[07:06] <D1> well... the thing states that there is no problem
[07:06] <S_kthi> L3top: I am currently chatting thru mobile
[07:07] <D1> I run an i7 which is a quad core... does choosing the x64 or x86 makes a diff?
[07:07] <L3top> It is a hash number D1, that is generated based on the unique properties of an image. You check to see if your md5sum is identical to the md5sum from where you downloaded.
[07:07] <D1> L3top: yes it is identical
[07:07] <tensorpudding> D1, yes, it makes a difference, but you can choose either of them
[07:07] <D1> tensorpudding: hummm... yes is strange it is not booting
[07:08] <L3top> D1 then the image is not the problem. You have some piece of hardware that is tripping it up.
[07:08] <D1> L3top: i shall try burning in another new DVD
[07:08] <L3top> D1 if you dropped it to USB with the same behavior, I don't think the burn is bad.
[07:09] <D1> L3top: nor the USB or the DVD works
[07:10] <n0b2> hi all.. do i need to install nvidia drivers on xubuntu? it seems to be running fine, btw what are the drivers for i really don't need compiz..
[07:10] <D1> L3top: I followed the prompt, it says reboot is requred. Then I went for I want to reboot now. It rebooted the Window. I am absolutely certain that I change the boot priority right
[07:10] <D1> L3top: So I tried the Help me to boot from CD