[14:08] <genady12lap> why adding/editing wifi connection don't ask for password but editing eth asks?
[14:12] <spawn57> flash videos are always playing sound on the headset.  I'm using kde, is there anyway I can configure this?
[14:16] <dtchen> spawn57: install pavucontrol and migrate the stream, or use pactl
[14:16] <coz_> hey guys... I have a couple issues..I have a sound card that requires alsa drivers and does not work with pulseaudio..what I normally do is completely disable pulseaudio..compile the alsadriver..reboot and things are fine..  now each time I reboot I get this    http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-Information_available.png   even after runnin asoundconf set-default-card Layla24   ..next boot brings this up again..the second issue is that each time I cli
[14:16] <coz_> ck "Reload" in synaptic  I have to remove the /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin..any solutions to that?  I have gone so far is set a keybinding to remove them it happens so frequently :)
[14:16] <spawn57> dtchen: thanks
[14:17] <dtchen> coz_: you have some odd state fubarness
[14:18] <coz_> dtchen,  apparenlty
[14:18] <dtchen> coz_: you can kill the update-notifier hint with rm -f /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/user-must-execute-asoundconf-set-default-card
[14:18] <dtchen> coz_: we only display that hint if pulseaudio isn't being used and if you're using GNOME
[14:19] <dtchen> you're *not*
[14:19] <coz_> dtchen,  ok this must be new then I will try that thanks   what about the  synaptic issue?
[14:19] <dtchen> at least that was the intent ...
[14:19] <dtchen> coz_: known issue with apt*; see launchpad
[14:19] <dtchen> coz_: could be caused by a transparent proxy doing nefarious things
[14:19] <coz_> dtchen,  ok at least I know its a known issue
[14:19] <dtchen> coz_: or monkeys that haven't eaten lunch  *shrug*
[14:20] <coz_> dtchen,  yeah I though elephants at first though
[14:20] <coz_> :)
[14:20] <coz_> thought
[14:21] <coz_> dtchen,  good thing I came here or I would still think it was elephants instead of monkeys :)
[14:21] <dtchen> yeah, poor elephants get such a bad rep
[14:21] <coz_> dtchen,  apologies to elephants the world around
[14:26] <coz_> dtchen,  I can just edit the user-must-execute-asoundconf-set-default-card from  dontshouwafterreboot= false  to true?
[14:27] <lirxis> Hi have anybody successfully installed ATI Catalyst drivers for a Radeon X600 card?
[14:28] <lirxis> I have tried installing Catalyst 9.3 but Xorg wont start
[14:28] <coz_> lirxis,  if you are using compiz you may want to go to #compiz and talk with  either adamk  or soreau
[14:28] <lirxis> coz_ this has nothing to do with compiz
[14:29] <coz_> lirxis,  I understand  but they would know pretty quickly what is going on
[14:29] <coz_> I only deal with nvidia there
[14:29] <lirxis> coz_ okay... i will give it a try
[14:29] <BUGabundo1> cwillu are you around?
[14:39] <panaggio> after my last apt-get upgrade yesterday, I'm getting a busybox =(
[14:40] <BUGabundo1> panaggio: there are few users getting like that
[14:40] <BUGabundo1> I have no idea what I causing it
[14:40] <panaggio> and I could not solve it by "classic" means, like creating a node pointing to /dev/my-root-drive
[14:41] <panaggio> BUGabundo1: I have an idea of waht caused it
[14:41] <BUGabundo1> then you are better then me
[14:42] <panaggio> BUGabundo1: system get broken on an erroneous update-initramfs
[14:43] <BUGabundo1> yeah I see at least one of those every day here
[14:53] <eagles0513875> does anyone else have the issue where certain updates lock one out of kde and the way to fix that is to delete the .ICEauthority
[15:04] <JMFTheVCI> Bit the bullet and upgraded to jaunty today. All is well.
[15:04] <BUGabundo1> it doesn't seem so... lol he just got a closed connection
[15:05] <JMFTheVCI> except for pidgin which crashes when you try to enable the xchat plugin!
[15:05] <BUGabundo1> JMFTheVCI: hay... nice to know
[15:05] <BUGabundo1> there's a xchat plugin?
[15:06] <eagles0513875> anyone expierence the issue i have experienced 2 times
[15:06] <eagles0513875> does anyone else have the issue where certain updates lock one out of kde and the way to fix that is to delete the .ICEauthority
[15:06] <JMFTheVCI> I have one listed in pidgin.
[15:06] <The_Rebel> what version of PulseAudio is Juanty going to include?
[15:07] <BUGabundo1> The_Rebel: 9.14.x
[15:07] <The_Rebel> version 0.9.15 was just released and it has a lot of improvements
[15:07] <BUGabundo1> why?
[15:07] <BUGabundo1> too close to rellease
[15:07] <BUGabundo1> themuso has PPA with 9.15 for those that want to use it
[15:08] <The_Rebel> cool
[15:10] <self_slaughter> hey guys, anyone know if theres a way to make banshee 1.4 use xine? or a faster way of using gstreamer to show the videos properly? (setting the gstreamer-properties to X window system (No Xv) is way to slow even at 2.3ghz !
[15:12] <thiebaude> self_slaughter: are you using totem-xine?
[15:13] <self_slaughter> no, i dont use totem at all
[15:14] <Flynsarmy> The final release of jaunty comes out 4 days after beta 1? :|
[15:14] <Flynsarmy> Nevermind, read the wiki wrong :)
[15:14] <Bert_2> Hi, I downloaded ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img, FAFAIK I'm supposed to put it on a USB device, what is the best way to do that ? (I'm on hardy so perhaps the USB creator thing from intrepid is supposed to do that)
[15:14] <thiebaude> self_slaughter: i know, but when i use totem-xine my video are real good
[15:14] <self_slaughter> yeah i have vlc, and that works great
[15:15] <self_slaughter> just trying to see if i can get banshee to run videos smoothly as well
[15:15] <JMFTheVCI> Volume control bug is still there as of today's upgrade. Enable capture device to enable recording. Close Volume Contol and then re-open. Capture has been muted.
[15:16] <BUGabundo1> Bert_2: dd
[15:16] <BUGabundo1> theres is a link on the page on how to do it
[15:16] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: is that the only way (I knew dd was an options but I was hoping there was an easier way)
[15:16] <BUGabundo1> usb-creator is for ISO to usb, not img
[15:17] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: okey
[15:17]  * Bert_2 checks that page again
[15:17] <BUGabundo1> Bert_2: there's a tool that does dd from an user point of view
[15:17] <BUGabundo1> let me find it  for you
[15:18] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: I don't see any useful links on the download page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/
[15:18] <BUGabundo1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting
[15:18] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: ow yes, it's in between the text and the list
[15:18] <BUGabundo1> Bert_2: don't use BETA
[15:18] <BUGabundo1> its too old
[15:18] <BUGabundo1> get a daily
[15:18] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: I don't know the links to daily
[15:18] <BUGabundo1> either $ sudo dd if=/path/to/your/downloaded.img of=/dev/device/you/saw/in/dmesg bs=1024
[15:19] <JMFTheVCI> BUGabundo1: I take it that a update-manager -d would pick up the latest daily?
[15:19] <Bert_2> JMFTheVCI: it gets the latest deb packages
[15:20] <JMFTheVCI> BUGabundo1: After the distribution upgrade there were still a fair few upgradable packages as well. I hope that these are all to get the RC as "fixed" as possible, yes?
[15:21] <Bert_2> Can anyone give me the links to the daily builds ?
[15:21] <BUGabundo1> or image writer http://ppa.launchpad.net/ogra/ubuntu/pool/main/u/usb-imagewriter/usb-imagewriter_0.1-1~ppa1_all.deb
[15:22] <BUGabundo1> JMFTheVCI: yes, UM takes you to current packages
[15:22] <BUGabundo1> Bert_2: just a sec.. server is slow., I'll get you daily in a sec
[15:22] <BUGabundo1> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/
[15:22] <BUGabundo1> somewhere inside that
[15:23] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: okey, awesome, thx
[15:23] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: it's slow indd
[15:23] <BUGabundo1> yep
[15:23] <BUGabundo1> I'm rsyncing it, and I'm nothing it too
[15:23] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: alright
[15:24] <aapzak> cwillu: the UXA fix has been patched on xorg! yeah!
[15:24] <Bert_2> BUGabundo1: also, in which channel can I discuss things concerning the netbook launcher app ?
[15:24] <BUGabundo1> Bert_2: try #ubuntu-mobile
[15:24] <JMFTheVCI> Just noticed the pop-up notification tool allows you to set the position of the pop-up but regardless of what you set the pop-up appears top-right.
[15:24] <BUGabundo1> let me join you
[15:25] <Halow> JMFTheVCI: That tool is for the old popups. The new ones are fixed.
[15:26] <JMFTheVCI> Halow: How do you configure the position? Or don't we configure that any more?
[15:26] <BUGabundo1> JMFTheVCI: what is that tool???
[15:26] <BUGabundo1> I don't know anything other then a key in gconf to do that
[15:27] <Halow> There was something or other to mess with the old notifications. Heck if I can remember the name. =/
[15:27] <Halow> JMFTheVCI: Nope. The new ones only come in one place. No configurations at all. =(
[15:28] <JMFTheVCI> There was an app listed that could be added to the System > Preferences called pop-up notifications.  I spotted it whilst looking at the System>Preferences>Main Menu app.
[15:28] <JMFTheVCI> It was not enabled. I enabled it and it functioned. But did not do what it said on the tin. Must be defunct/redundant.
[15:44] <Novalgina2Fast> filo1234: niente da fare
[15:56] <atlef> i run seperate x screens and can not get more then 2 workspaces on the second screen. any input? oh it is a nvidia 7950gx2 gfxcard
[16:06] <BUGabundo1> for archive freeze we are getting lots of upgrades!
[16:14] <xerox1> hi, i am facing trouble with my asus vw222u screen: i goes periodically black
[16:23] <mcnesium> hi everyone, i just tried to upgrade via "sudo update-manager -d" but suddenly the update process window disappeared
[16:24] <mcnesium> when i tried to start over in the terminal, it only said this
[16:24] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: no need for sudo
[16:24] <BUGabundo1>  !paste | mcnesium
[16:24] <mcnesium> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:24] <mcnesium>   File "/usr/bin/update-manager", line 26, in <module>
[16:24] <mcnesium>     import pygtk
[16:24] <mcnesium> ImportError: No module named pygtk
[16:24] <mcnesium> sry
[16:24] <BUGabundo1> bah not fast enough
[16:24] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: are you using ibex?
[16:24] <mcnesium> yes
[16:25] <wirechief> good morning BUGabundo1
[16:25] <BUGabundo1> wirechief: hay
[16:25] <bjsnider> wow, pulse 9.15 is awesome
[16:25] <BUGabundo1> tell me something, doest your crash relate to disk IO ?
[16:25] <BUGabundo1> bjsnider: what changed?
[16:25]  * wirechief scratchs and poors a cup of coffee
[16:25] <bjsnider> they're almost there, if they can just implement the right volume control app
[16:25] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: can you pastebin your sources?
[16:25] <mcnesium> no i didnt do anything. i surfed the web while waiting for the upgrade
[16:25] <BUGabundo1> bjsnider: vaupcontrol?
[16:26] <bjsnider> BUGabundo1, http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/oh-nine-fifteen.html
[16:26] <bjsnider> pulseaudio can now send sound to the airport express router like itunes can
[16:26] <mcnesium> BUGabundo1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/150886/
[16:27] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: why did you change your sources for jaunty??
[16:27] <mcnesium> i did not, BUGabundo1, all i did was entering "sudo update-manager -d" in the terminal
[16:27] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: pastebin: $ cat /etc/lsb-release
[16:28] <bjsnider> they're also incorporating more of vista's volume control ideas, which is the right step
[16:28] <mcnesium> BUGabundo1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/150887/
[16:30]  * BUGabundo1 rsync and updates combined make PC slowwwwwwwww
[16:31] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: strange... everything points for you to be in jaunty
[16:31] <BUGabundo1> just run UM, without sudo again
[16:31] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: $ update-manager
[16:31] <mcnesium> BUGabundo1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/150888/
[16:31] <mcnesium> same there
[16:32] <BUGabundo1> lets do it manually
[16:32] <mcnesium> how is that?
[16:32] <BUGabundo1> $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:32] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: calm.. let me write down ehehe
[16:33] <mcnesium> it wants me to run dpkg --configure -a
[16:35] <mcnesium> ok its going
[16:35] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: ahhhh it got stuck
[16:35] <BUGabundo1> forgot about that
[16:35] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: sudo dpg...... bla
[16:36] <mcnesium> i am thinking whether that was my fault or its a bug in the update process
[16:37] <mcnesium> as i said i did not really do anything special while the update, i surfed the web and stuff
[16:39] <mysticdarkhack> hey all
[16:39] <mysticdarkhack> Anyone here use lasfm?
[16:39] <ellar> seems to be #352317 but there's apparently no solution
[16:39] <mysticdarkhack> lastfm
[16:39] <ellar> !bug #352317
[16:44] <dthmnk> hey guys, I'm having a strange issue in Firefox with Ubuntu 9.04, when I type in a website, and hit enter... and before the page actually loads (still a white screen) hit CTRL+T
[16:44] <dthmnk> it'll open about 20 new tabs
[16:44] <dthmnk> instead of one
[16:44] <dthmnk> anyone else having this issue?
[16:45] <JMFTheVCI> Not for me.
[16:45] <JMFTheVCI> FF 3.0.8
[16:45] <ellar> dthmnk, cannot confirm this
[16:45] <dthmnk> man this is the strangest thing ever.
[16:45] <dthmnk> I can't replicate the problem on any other machine
[16:46] <Whitor> Howdy. Has Jaunty been frozen yet? Are we in final beta atm?
[16:47] <Ienorand> dthmnk: No, works here... tried with a fresh profile?
[16:47] <JMFTheVCI> Whitor: I think we are frozen. RC is on 16th.
[16:47] <Ienorand> Whitor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[16:47] <dthmnk> on another machine I did
[16:47] <dthmnk> not this one though
[16:47] <JMFTheVCI> Only exceptions will be critical fixes.
[16:49] <Milos_SD> How can I convert my root and home partitions from ext3 to ext4?
[16:49] <Whitor> JMFTheVCI, Ienorand Thanks for the info !
[16:49] <dthmnk> I'll give it a shot on a fresh profile
[16:49] <dthmnk> brb
[16:49] <Ienorand> dthmnk: just run firefox -P and create a new one, see if the same error is there... otherwise blame extensionsd
[16:50] <JMFTheVCI> dthmnk or try safe mode... firefox --safe (i think)
[16:50] <Ienorand> He left
[16:50] <JMFTheVCI> DOH!
[16:50] <deany> im very impressed with jaunty.. very quick boot time
[16:51] <JMFTheVCI> deany: Boot time for me is good but from login to ready the screen stays blank a bit longer than intrepid.
[16:52] <mint3> ubuntu'ers
[16:52] <hackel> Since upgrading to jaunty, my  /dev/kvm is now owned by root, which means I can't run kvm as a non-root user.  I don't see any bug report for this yet, has anyone else seen this behaviour?
[16:53] <deany> im also glad to see the dust theme included is slightly better with certain apps..  the dark theme issue was still a problem with tbird  etc.. not now :)
[16:53] <BUGabundo1> Whitor: no
[16:53] <BUGabundo1> still fixing bugs
[16:53] <mint3> virtual manager
[16:53] <sagredo> hi friends
[16:53] <mint3> ola sagredo
[16:53] <sagredo> I just performed my morning update
[16:53] <Milos_SD> How can I convert my root and home partitions from ext3 to ext4 so my old files can use extents? :)
[16:53] <deany> aint no hardware drivers detected tho..
[16:54] <sagredo> and I have the Tracker: There was an error while performing indexing Index corrupted
[16:54] <deany> was expecting the usual fglrx available.
[16:54] <sagredo> is a fix out yet?
[16:54] <BUGabundo1> sagredo: out what?
[16:54] <mint3> i am not sure if i am on the right channel but I am looking for an application that will allow me to view rss feeds on my desktop...does anyone know of any?
[16:55] <sagredo> BUGabundo1: a fix for this Tracker Applet bug
[16:55] <BUGabundo1> sagredo: what's the bug id?
[16:55] <sagredo> I can here before google'ng
[16:55] <sagredo> BUGabundo1: I'm not sure one is submitted. I'll google brb
[16:55] <Ienorand> Could I check a thing here, is more people (everyone?) seeing bug 354563 ?
[16:55] <BUGabundo1> eeh if no bug, how can devs fix it?
[16:57] <Ienorand> If this is the case, I'd like to request putting it to high priority, since it's a very fundmental bit not working...
[16:58] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: let me test
[16:58] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: works for me
[16:59] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: Ok... so switching around the filters doesn't produce odd behaviour on your side?
[17:00] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: ahhhh need to make a bad search
[17:00] <BUGabundo1> yes, I can reproduce it
[17:00] <BUGabundo1> why isn't this filed on ubuntu?
[17:00] <BUGabundo1> and just upstream??
[17:01] <hil> mint3: you can try conky. google for sample configs, there are a lot.
[17:01] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: Oh, so ubuntu should be added?
[17:01] <BUGabundo1> of course
[17:01] <deany> quick question, do i need winbind service?  even tho im not using active directory.  its just warning me about data loss
[17:01] <BUGabundo1> its a ubuntu package
[17:02] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: just add ubuntu as also aff. package?
[17:02] <Veovis> Just wanted to let you guys know as soon as possible, yesterday I updated my system through kpackagemanager, and everything broke.  I can boot, but it barely even runs and I can't get online...
[17:02] <hggdh> Ienorand, yes
[17:03] <Veovis> I would boot into vista and file a bug report, but I have school in a few minutes
[17:03] <ellar> Ienorand, by "the repair" you mean that i erase the ese and make ese so its cheese?
[17:03] <hggdh> Ienorand, if upstream has a bug opened on it, you might also add the bug# on the upstream task
[17:03] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: gnome-app something... looking at my ps
[17:03] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: gnome-app-install
[17:03] <Ienorand> app-install-data-ubuntu?
[17:04] <BUGabundo1> nope
[17:04] <BUGabundo1> just gnome-app-install
[17:04] <Pici> That is the upstream bug. Just use the "also affects distribution" button
[17:04] <hggdh> Ienorand, under "Also affects distribution"
[17:04] <Ienorand> ellar: I did not write the initial desc, but that is how I interpret it "repair" is erasing an e cheesee -> cheese
[17:05] <BUGabundo1> LP is confusing some times
[17:05] <BUGabundo1> let me do it
[17:05] <ellar> Ienorand, thats the way i did, too. Confirming this bug
[17:05] <hmw> how can i share a internet connection (hsdpa) with other pcs on my lan? my usually working script (route, forwarding, iptables, dhcpd) wont work with ubuntu. Syslog reports "martian source". This is my "router" script: http://pastebin.com/f22c41762
[17:05] <hggdh> "also affects project" deals with (usually) upstream
[17:06] <Ienorand> Ah, there it goes, now it's on ubuntu as well...
[17:06] <Ienorand> I'm going to rewrite the description I think, make it less cryptic..
[17:07] <ellar> Ienorand, just found out: search is going again, if string is longer (cheese to cheeese) but not if shorter (cheeese to cheese)!
[17:07] <BUGabundo1> hmw: if you find a way to make it work (easy way) let me know! I've been haunting that for months
[17:07] <hmw> is it a jaunty problem, BUGabundo1 ?
[17:07] <BUGabundo1> dunno
[17:08] <hmw> or did i have wicd, perhaps, when it worked with 8.10...!?
[17:08] <hggdh> hmw, no, I doubt it. It is most probably related to setting your internet-connected PC as a router (as opposed to an end-point)
[17:08] <hmw> i dont know, what a martian source is
[17:09] <BUGabundo1> ltes ask asac
[17:09] <hggdh> a martian source is a packet that could not have appeared in the current setup
[17:09] <BUGabundo1> asac: what is "martion source" ?
[17:09] <BUGabundo1> typo
[17:09] <ellar> Ienorand, you said you reported it against ubuntu! in #354563?
[17:09] <hmw> hmm... well... i will reboot to 8.10... brb
[17:09] <ellar> or opened a new?
[17:11] <hggdh> ellar, it is reported against the ubuntu package, but the status is still "new"
[17:11] <Whitor> BUGabundo1, thanks. I'll wait a bit then
[17:12] <ellar> s
[17:12] <BUGabundo1> Whitor: ah?
[17:12] <ellar> hggdh, which bug #?
[17:12] <Whitor> You answer my Q about 5 minutes ago :)
[17:12] <Whitor> BUGabundo1,
[17:12] <hggdh> ellar, https://launchpad.net/bugs/354563
[17:14] <Ienorand> Does it look alright now? Is there someone around that could put an appropriate priority on it?
[17:14] <BUGabundo1> when hwm comes back, ask him for syslog for asac
[17:15] <hggdh> Ienorand, I would like to know what version is affected ;-)
[17:15] <Ienorand> hggdh: Ah, true
[17:15] <hggdh> Ienorand, for example, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Description It might be good to follow it
[17:16] <hggdh> Ienorand, for the upstream task: either set it to new, or add the upstream bug #, or delete it
[17:17] <fincan> any raid user?
[17:17]  * hggdh would rather have the upstream bug #, though
[17:19] <mgunes> Ienorand, I've set the priority to "High".
[17:20] <ellar> is this a jaunty-only problem?
[17:21] <mgunes> but the description is not very clear
[17:21] <mgunes> yes, intrepid and hardy seem fine
[17:26] <Ienorand> mgunes: Added version and jaunty+kernel+arch... I'm not sure how to clarify the whole thing... since the issues themselves are quite random as it stands...
[17:26] <deany> wine (from main ubuntu repo) is causing my system to freeze completely when using any sort of file browser in wine, like in wine config, setting up drive lettters with mount points, clicking browse..
[17:26] <mgunes> Ienorand, it seems there are some duplicates..
[17:28] <hmw> re. With my 8.10 setup, sharing wors with the same script. Looks like Jaunty.related to me?
[17:29] <hmw> works
[17:29] <hmw> but in 8.10 i had to use the pon script stuff. (wicd installed)
[17:31] <BUGabundo1> hmw: please come to #ubuntu-mozilla
[17:31] <BUGabundo1> hmw: asac is saying that you shouldnt be using NM with that script
[17:32] <hmw> #ubuntu-mozilla looks quite empty
[17:34] <hmw> BUGabundo1: #ubuntu-mozilla is empty
[17:34] <sagredo> what is the best practice for reindexing tracker-applet in the event it encounters an error
[17:35] <Mark_Milliman> Has anyone tried to load the Linuxant modem drivers in the new kernel?
[17:35] <hmw> can I stop the network manger temporarily by unchecking "enable networking" in the context menu of the icon?
[17:35] <sagredo> hmw: yes
[17:35] <Mark_Milliman> hmw, yes you can
[17:36] <Mark_Milliman> hmw, as long as you don't have any interfaces controlled by the networking daemon
[17:36] <hmw> Rebooting to jaunty. Send some positive Karma waves, please... brb
[17:36] <Mark_Milliman> hmw, nm likes to take control of those interfaces
[17:36] <BUGabundo1> hmw: please come to #ubuntu-mozillateam LOL
[17:37] <BUGabundo1> hmw: that will disable the cards
[17:37] <Mark_Milliman> After the upgrade I had to re-enable nm and change my interfaces file
[17:37] <Mark_Milliman> \/etc\/network\/interfaces should only have an entry for l0 if you want NM to control your networking
[17:38] <Mark_Milliman> BUGaboundo1, not if you have NM active.  NM will take over configuring the interfaces
[17:38] <Mark_Milliman> BUGaboundo1, NM 0.7 is more aggressive in its operation it is more of a replacement for ifconfig.
[17:39] <hm1> hah
[17:39] <hm1> it worked. thanks... i didnt think of switching NM off.
[17:40] <hm1> who wanted to know the solution 10 minutes ago?
[17:40] <Mark_Milliman> hm1, you may of missed it but NM is bucking to be a replacement for ifconfig.  You configure your interfaces in one or the other program, not both.
[17:41] <Mark_Milliman> NM will ignore any interfaces configured through ifconfig.
[17:41] <Ienorand> mgunes: Cheers for helping
[17:41] <Mark_Milliman> I only have l0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file and have NM doing everything.
[17:41] <hm1> Mark_Milliman: sounds reasonable. I was too uncertain, if this checkbox isnt completely killing all network...
[17:41] <mgunes> Ienorand, you're welcome.
[17:42] <nemo> Mark_Milliman: great. I sure hope jaunty has fixed the problem with NM completely screwing up static interfaces in ibex :
[17:42] <nemo> :)
[17:42] <nemo> Mark_Milliman: 'cause right now in ibex, I just manually set eth0:1 to a static address every time NM throws it out
[17:42] <nemo> very annoying
[17:42] <hm1> Mark_Milliman: my goal was to get a script, that takes over control (using ifconfig) for a temporary setup. Dont want to loose NM automatic DHCP client ability
[17:42] <mgunes> added duplicates, now further refining the description. it doesn't seem to completely disregard all category filters; only some.
[17:45] <hm1> is unchecking "Enable Networking" in NM the same as /etc/init.d/networking stop?
[17:46] <hm1> or is it just Networkmanager stop
[17:47] <ellar> !pronounce
[17:48] <ellar> problem is : bash: /usr/share/example-content/Experience: No such file or directory
[17:48] <Ienorand> mgunes:  The danger of that bug is that it is mainly "beginner" users which will see it.
[17:48] <ellar> am I the only one?
[17:48] <Ienorand> mgunes: Hmm, it seems to get stuck on categories, and if you do some search it will temporarily unlock, just to get stuck on another one after switching a couple of times...
[17:49] <Pici> ellar: Most of ubottu's factoids have not been updated for Jaunty.
[17:50] <ellar> Pici, but where is the file then?
[17:51] <Pici> ellar: It looks like it hasn't been present in example-content since Hardy.
[17:54] <hm1> who asked me to tell him my solution for sharing HSDPA connection, if i find one?
[17:55] <BUGabundo1> hmw: me
[17:55] <BUGabundo1> but I want something that works with NM
[17:56] <BUGabundo1> I just need an easy way to share 3G over wifi or wires
[17:56] <hmw> BUGabundo1: ic. I guess one had to configure something in /etc/network... maybe i can figure it out
[18:01] <BUGabundo1> apw: ping
[18:01] <BUGabundo1> you around?
[18:01] <apw> meeting
[18:01] <BUGabundo1> apw: need a bit of help with bug 359231
[18:01] <BUGabundo1> ok I'll talk to you later
[18:08] <mcnesium> thx for the help BUGabundo1 everything works fine now
[18:08] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: np
[18:09] <mcnesium> even though i do not see any new stuff else than the boot screen and the black wifi notification
[18:10] <BUGabundo1> mcnesium: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:11] <mcnesium> ubuntu-desktop is the latest version
[18:12] <panaggio> is there any chance this http://paste.ubuntu.com/150937/ can mess my mbr more then it already is messed?
[18:14] <panaggio> :s:it already is:it is already
[18:18] <BUGabundo1> panaggio: don't see why
[18:20] <antoranz> guys! Do you know how to set up a zeroconf service in kubuntu?
[18:24] <shadeslayer> hi,can someone help me with notify-osd ?
[18:26] <Ienorand> shadeslayer: If you do _state the problem_ someone might jump to your rescue :)
[18:26] <shadeslayer> i have a straight bar,in increasing brightness,whereas in the wiki it shows multiple bars
[18:26] <shadeslayer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[18:29] <JMFTheVCI> shadeslayer: I have a single bar for both sound and brightness.
[18:29] <JMFTheVCI> Perhaps the WIKI is just a guide to developers?
[18:30] <Ienorand> shadeslayer: I think that is just a mockup, my brightness behaves the same and I guess this is how it's supposed to be on jaunty....
[18:30] <shadeslayer> JMFTheVCI: its the same thing on youtube as well
[18:30] <Ienorand> i.e. i have a straight horizontal bar
[18:30] <JMFTheVCI> shadeslayer: my wireless connection indicator is the same as 8.10. definitely not like the wiki entry.
[18:31] <shadeslayer> ok,so will it be incorporated in the end?
[18:31] <Alan> Hmm... my firefox performance sucks after the most recent set of updates... any reason why?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> works fine here
[18:33] <BUGabundo1> Alan: because you don't use ff 3.5
[18:33] <atlef_>  /nick atlef
[18:33] <Alan> BUGabundo1: right, but 3.5 isn't going to be in the Jaunty release, right?
[18:33] <shadeslayer> well i have to go,hopefully all the gauges will get incorporated :)
[18:33] <BUGabundo1> Alan: its supposed to be in universe
[18:34] <BUGabundo1> if not, just get the mozilla team PPA
[18:34] <Alan> BUGabundo1: i use 3.5 at work, i'd agree that it beats 3.0 into the ground...
[18:34] <Alan> BUGabundo1: ooh, i see it
[18:34] <BUGabundo1> Alan: after you try that (or even better 3.6) there's no way back
[18:35] <JMFTheVCI> Alan: I am on ff 3.0.8 and performance is fine.
[18:36] <JMFTheVCI> Even on my 1.6 Atom processor!
[18:38] <BUGabundo1> JMFTheVCI: try 3.5 or 3.6 eheh
[18:38] <BUGabundo1> Alan: 3.5 is on universe
[18:39] <JMFTheVCI> Is there a deb or source for 3.5?
[18:40] <JMFTheVCI> Bug: just seen your response to alan.
[18:40] <shanix> can I use Jaunty desktop CD to upgrade my Intrepid system? If so, how??
[18:41] <mbeierl> shanix: I believe you can add the software source for the CD to apt sources and then just do the dist-upgrade that way
[18:42] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: To try ff 3.5 is it as simple as installing firefox-3.5 package from universe?
[18:42] <BUGabundo1> JMFTheVCI: of course there is
[18:42] <shanix> mbeierl, even just using the Desktop CD ?
[18:42] <JMFTheVCI> Bug: Just updating my package lists.
[18:42] <BUGabundo1> Ienorand: yes! but to start it you need to mention the version.
[18:42] <BUGabundo1> ie. $ firefox-3.5
[18:42] <mbeierl> Not sure about that - I think you need the alt cd
[18:42] <BUGabundo1> or $ firefox-3.6
[18:43] <BUGabundo1> and  $ firefox-3.0
[18:43] <Ienorand> BUGabundo1: ok, nice.
[18:44] <mbeierl> sorry - anyone else know if the desktop live cd can be used as a software source for upgrades?
[18:44] <JMFTheVCI> BUGabundo1: Ffox 3.5 is not showing up in package manager
[18:46] <JMFTheVCI> Bug: ignore me. yes it is.
[18:46] <Alan> Also, a newer version of alexandria should be in the repo....
[18:46] <Alan> because 0.6.3 is riddled with bugs
[18:46] <Alan> in fact, it's almost unusable...
[18:47] <panaggio> if I don't use pci=nomsi as option on live cd, it just don't run. but if I use it, I can't access my hd. so what I have to do?
[18:47] <m0RrE> does anyone it it's possible to upgrade to jaunty when i've got my system running on a raid0 setup?
[18:48] <panaggio> ( I'll be kicked off this channel in a few days, as I have a lot of big problems here =/ )
[18:48] <m0RrE> panaggio: try the forums?
[18:49] <topyli> panaggio: have you tried the alternate installer already?
[18:50] <panaggio> topyli: I don't need to install, I want to recover my MBR only =)
[18:51] <panaggio> can't access my hd from live cd
[18:51] <panaggio> so I can't update grub =/
[18:51] <BUGabundo1> Alan: now you have to wait for karmic and ask to sync and then backport it. also you can put it on a PPA
[18:51] <JMFTheVCI> alan & bugabundo: ffox 3.5 *does* render faster.
[18:51] <panaggio> m0RrE: I'm also trying the foruns (for some purposes)
[18:52] <BUGabundo1> m0RrE: sure the system can be upgrade, but you will lose network at some point and need to reboot
[18:53] <m0RrE> BUGabundo1: i've tried to upgrade twice but i can't access my 800gb partition after the upgrade
[18:53] <m0RrE> the system can't find the partition
[18:53] <BUGabundo1> m0RrE: have you filed a bug?
[18:53] <Alan> BUGabundo1: hmm?
[18:53] <BUGabundo1> what FS does it have?
[18:53] <m0RrE> no i haven't.. ext3.. 2x500gb in raid0
[18:54] <BUGabundo1> m0RrE: if you don't, devs don't know about it, so they can't fix it
[18:55] <BUGabundo1> m0RrE: is it softraid?
[18:55] <m0RrE> well.. i've got an onboard raid-controller.. so it isn't softraid
[18:56] <m0RrE> the motherboard is Asus P6T Deluxe
[18:56] <m0RrE> 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 SATA RAID Controller
[18:57] <hm1> BUGabundo1: i might have a solution: install firestarter
[18:57] <m0RrE> well, maybe i've got to take one for the team and do it one more time.. :P then file a bug if it won't work
[18:58] <hm1> BUGabundo1: without firestarter, the hsdpa conn didnt work at all with NM. After installing firestarter, it configures my LAN IF, and enables sharing - totally easy and "user proof"
[18:58] <hm1> BUGabundo1: i also had several situations, where the HSDPA conn would only work, if i disabled the local IF.
[18:59] <BUGabundo1> m0RrE: most of those "onboard" are soft raids!
[18:59] <hm1> BUGabundo1: looks like that was related to DNS though
[18:59] <BUGabundo1> hm1 firestarter didn't work last time I tried
[18:59] <hm1> ic. Well, I am happy now :) hope you will have success soon, too.
[18:59] <hm1> BUGabundo1: might it be related to my hand written chatscript and stuff?
[19:00] <BUGabundo1> hm1 prob is NM prefers wired over any other link
[19:00] <hm1> i wonder, why it is working now... i didnt enter DNS nor a gateway for the static IP of the wired IF
[19:04] <coz_> ok guys I went and did something stupid here and installed lxde  and removed it and find I have no right click on the desktop anymore in gnome
[19:04] <coz_> any solutions?
[19:07] <BUGabundo1> coz_: humm install it again?
[19:07] <Alan> Ok, the firefox-3.5 package is junk :(
[19:08] <coz_> BUGabundo1,  I uninstalled lxde already
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> but if you need it , install it back ehehe
[19:08] <coz_> BUGabundo1,  i can access desktop backgrounds through system/preferences/appearance  but it is real slow in changing backgrounds now
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> coz_: just try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop or nautilus
[19:08] <Alan> Lots of backtraces etc. in the terminal (so internal breakage), and completely ignoring font rendering settings
[19:08] <coz_> BUGabundo1,  ok I will do that now
[19:08] <Alan> (which isn't unusual for firefox, except for when it's been properly whipped into shape by a distro release team)
[19:08] <BUGabundo1> Alan: check LP for bugs and file new ones
[19:09] <Alan> BUGabundo1: I would, but it seems that I can't actually connect to anything over HTTP right now....
[19:09] <BUGabundo1> eeheh
[19:09] <Alan> not at any reasonable speed anyway
[19:10] <coz_> BUGabundo1,  darn that didnt help
[19:10] <Alan> unfortunately, i'm stuck with firefox right now because of xmarks
[19:10] <Alan> as in, i can't live without it
[19:11] <JackWinter> hi, is there a torrent for kubuntu 9.04 beta ?
[19:11] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: yes
[19:11] <Alan> No epiphany-webkit any more? :(
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> but you should be getting the daily
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: why torrent and not direct download?
[19:12] <JackWinter> BUGabundo1: how do i get that ?
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: get what? daily?
[19:12] <BUGabundo1>  !daily
[19:12] <JackWinter> BUGabundo1: thanks, just for speed and to save bandwidth
[19:12] <BUGabundo1> in your case you need to change to kubuntu
[19:13] <JackWinter> what is the difference between daily and daily-live ?
[19:13] <Alan> hmmm...
[19:14] <Alan> is bugs.launchpad.net just slow right now?
[19:14] <BUGabundo1> Alan: looks like it
[19:14] <BUGabundo1> everything is
[19:14] <JMFTheVCI> jackwinter\; live has more friendly bacteria?
[19:14] <BUGabundo1> guess someone is DoD canonical servers?
[19:14] <Alan> uh-oh, the internet is broken again
[19:14] <LordKow> BUGabundo1, it's called GNOME 2.26.1 :)
[19:14] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: daily is alternate, daily-live is desktop
[19:15] <BUGabundo1> LordKow: ahh??
[19:15] <BUGabundo1> JackWinter: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/
[19:15] <LordKow> in effect, lots of stuff for jaunty users to download. i had 104 updates from this morning alone
[19:15] <JackWinter> BUGabundo1: thanks
[19:16] <BUGabundo1> LordKow: I already had that 2x today
[19:16] <coz_> BUGabundo1,  figured it out.. apparenlty somewhere between install and uninstall lxde  nauilus   show_desktop was disabled
[19:16] <coz_> thanks anyway
[19:17] <JackWinter> do you guys have a working -rt patched kernel working with nvidia closed drivers ?
[19:18] <BUGabundo1> ahh
[19:18] <learner> where can i get help with backtrack?
[19:18] <hmw> thanks for your help. bye!
[19:20] <odla> i am using the 'new wave' theme and i have black fonts in firefox and oo.org3. how can i fix this so that it's consistent with the rest of gnome? i know that oo.org3 and firefox are not native GTK apps.
[19:21] <BUGabundo1> learner: not here
[19:22] <learner> that's y i was asking
[19:22] <BUGabundo1> learner: humm try google? or their site for a link for support?
[19:22] <learner> okay
[19:24] <learner> later dudes
[19:24] <deany> anyone else having trouble with Wine (stable and latest dev) where it locks your pc up when you do anything with a a browser, a windows apps file browser, not gnome
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> bye
[19:45] <AmyRose> I have my "Recovery mode" GRUB options password-protected, but the P key doesn't work anymore for me. Anyone else have this problem with GRUB on Jaunty?
[19:47] <CareT> hi! i use jaunty netbook-remix. i added the weather applet to the panel but it doesn't show a local file that is specified with 'file:///path/to/file/filename.gif' in the preferences as rain radar picture. it shows it only if i specify it as 'http://mydomain/filename.gif'. any ideas what's wrong? it worked with ubuntu 7.10.
[20:02] <juliux> hi
[20:03] <juliux> any idea what i can do if i x is not starting and dmesg shows this? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394770/
[20:03] <imachine> can Ubuntu mount FFS2?
[20:03] <imachine> I've read somewhere it can, just want to make sure
[20:03] <imachine> UFS/FFS2
[20:03] <imachine> or, actually FFS1 I think it was.
[20:03] <imachine> FreeBSD 4.11 anyway :-)
[20:09] <mphill> imachine: according to wikipedia it can
[20:11] <imachine> mphill, spot on
[20:15] <Veinor> WTF
[20:15] <Veinor> For some reason all of my upgrades are failing.
[20:17] <Veinor> It's not getting them from the server.
[20:18] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. When I put large files (e.g. videos, DVD images) via NFS or a HTTP upload from a Samsung M50 laptop to somewhere else, I often lose all connectivity.
[20:19] <[4-tea-2]> Preliminary tests with a stock <IP_ADDRESS> kernel seem to show that this only happens with Ubuntu kernels (on 8.10 and jaunty).
[20:19] <[4-tea-2]> NIC is a 06:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
[20:19] <deany> anyone else having trouble with Wine (stable and latest dev) where it locks your pc up when you do anything with a a browser, a windows apps file browser, not gnome
[20:21] <safruhani> what is the differance between here and #ubuntu?
[20:21] <[4-tea-2]> safruhani: this channel is only for jaunty users.
[20:21] <efu> I haven't got a single update notification since I installed jaunty. (Clean install.) Update Manager shows lots of upgrades available. Why am I not getting notified of this automatically ? Is something wrong?
[20:21] <safruhani> ok thanx
[20:24] <blueyed> Can somebody confirm bug 361275, before I report this upstream, please?
[20:28] <mphill> deany: not me
[20:29] <CareT> hi! i use jaunty netbook-remix. i added the weather applet to the panel but it doesn't show a local file that is specified with 'file:///path/to/file/filename.gif' in the preferences as rain radar picture. it shows it only if i specify it as 'http://mydomain/filename.gif'. any ideas what's wrong? it worked with ubuntu 7.10.
[20:29] <mphill> efu: update-manager is configured to run once a week now
[20:29] <efu> mphill, aha, thank you
[20:30] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[20:30] <mphill> efu: its in gconf-editor/app/update-mangager I think
[20:30] <deany> mphill, odd, its fine in 8.10, always has been, never had such trouble before.
[20:31] <elvirolo> i'm using kubuntu jaunty, and it seems the  network manager (plasmoid) is a bit dodgy - every time i try to use it, plasma dies and starts again
[20:31] <mphill> i'm running 1.1.19
[20:31] <mphill> i use wine daily
[20:32] <deany> ive tried bith
[20:32] <deany> both*
[20:32] <mphill> you are trying to run IE in wine or something?
[20:32] <deany> a browser like you get when you click "browse" in the drives tab to set location for drive letter
[20:32] <deany> soon as that comes up, boom
[20:33] <mphill> deany: do you use network drives?
[20:33] <deany> ive installed an app like acdsee that has a folder tree in main window, does same thing soon as i run the prog..  No.
[20:33] <deany> im using same drive config i used on 8.10
[20:33] <mphill> sometimes if you have mounted drives that have a severed network connection you can get interestin result
[20:34] <deany> all local partitions
[20:34] <deany> it doesnt even show the folders etc, it locks as soon as the window appears...
[20:34] <mphill> maybe run strace wine <application> and see if the system trace tells you anything
[20:34] <mphill> make sure its visible when you run since are getting hard lockups
[20:35] <mphill> that browse dialog might be choking on an fopen or something
[20:35] <mphill> i've had that happen before
[20:36] <deany> ive since restored my backup of 8.10 :)  I I`ll wait till a week after final, cuz I want proper 3D drivers installed (none there in hardware drivers) and apps like vbox.. maybe it`ll be fixed by then
[20:37] <deany> Whats fopen ?  it something I can fix?
[20:37] <mphill> its a posix system call
[20:37] <mphill> i would ignore me if you aren't sure what am talking about
[20:37] <deany> when it locks,  I can move mouse but its very very slow and nothing else responds, not even keyboard and hence, not even REISUB
[20:38] <mphill> oh
[20:38] <mphill> i'm sure your CPU goes to 100% too and your system load is like 9.00
[20:38] <deany> shame really, i was impressed with jaunty speed.
[20:38] <efu> The click-through notifications are awesome! they don't get in the way like the old ones
[20:38] <nztal> anyone know how i might accomplish a pop up reminder window in gnome, say, everyday at 5pm?
[20:39] <mphill> nztal: evolution
[20:39] <mphill> recurring calendar item
[20:39] <mphill> should utlize your system tray and popups
[20:39] <nztal> thank you
[20:39] <deany> from the sound of the fans its being used some, but not as much as a system lock ive had before..  The fans didnt go full blast on this wine lockup..
[20:40] <mphill> otherwise write an application that uses libnotify maybe
[20:40] <phoenixz> Whenever I do apt-get upgrade, I get this message: The following packages have been kept back, and then a list of packages.. I suppose this means that these packages are not upgraded, but why is this?
[20:41] <mphill> phoenixz: are you using 3rd party repos?
[20:41] <deany> phoenixz, usin the standard old beta iso and not a daily?  Ekiga by any chance?
[20:41] <phoenixz> mphill: correct
[20:41] <mphill> phoenixz: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <phoenixz> deany: too, but various packages are held back (wesnoth, amsn-data, ekiga,etc)
[20:42] <deany> Ekiga wont upgrade beacuse it wants to install more packages and remove others.. remove ekiga and install it again, it`ll be fine.. do the same for the others i guess.  thats what I did
[20:42] <phoenixz> mphill: Im actually running 9.04 alpha (shoud I do dist-upgrade to go to beta too?)
[20:42] <deany> even dist-upgrade wouldnt do it fo rme.
[20:42] <deany> ouch.
[20:42] <phoenixz> deany: can I run dist-upgrade multiple times without causing problems?
[20:43] <deany> sure
[20:43] <mphill> phoenixz: the dist-upgrade will happen with in the context of the jaunty repos, give it a shot, it won't harm anything (no warranty)
[20:43] <deany> if i were to install jaunty id use a daily iso myself.. saves on the updates.
[20:43] <phoenixz> Well then.. Here goes warranty until the doorstep..
[20:44] <deany> mphill, which is what I did btw...if that makes any difference, which i doubt.
[20:44] <efu> Will my jaunty beta become a clean 9.04 through the regular updates? Or should I reinstall when it's released?
[20:44]  * phoenixz is dist-upgrading..
[20:44] <deany> efu, once updated it`ll be final
[20:44] <phoenixz> deany: mphill: hah! Exactly those packages are being upgraded now! sweet, thanks!
[20:45] <mphill> then run apt-get moo
[20:45] <deany> I think I had the problem when it was a problem, i think they knew about the packages not able to upgrade.. i just fixed em myself.
[20:46] <deany> the upgrading ekiga etc that is.
[20:46] <mphill> what feature do you need in ekiga tht is not in the repo version
[20:48] <deany> mphill, when I had the upgrade problem, even dist-upgrade didnt work, they knew about it.. I just removed it, and reinstalled it. not a problem now it seems. im talkin a week or so ago
[20:49] <mphill> if you are looking for a sip client you should investigate empathy
[20:49] <deany> only problem i have is wine.. think ill try it in a vm.
[20:50] <yoritomo> hello all
[20:51] <yoritomo> i just installed the beta version of jaunty now, and i wanna tell about a bug i experience already, the printer configuration GUI does not starts, i got an error message
[20:52] <nztal> mphill, thanks again for that help
[20:52] <mphill> n/p
[20:53] <yoritomo> The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/kcm-scpk.pyThe factory does not support creating components of the specified type
[20:53] <yoritomo> it is the error message i got
[20:57] <mbeierl> yoritomo: ubuntu jaunty here, and I can get into printer configuration without that message.  Are you running a variant (ie: kubuntu, xubuntu)?
[20:58] <yoritomo> kubuntu, sorry i forgot to tell
[20:58] <yoritomo> kde
[20:58] <odinsbane> Will it be convenient to upgrade from jaunty beta to the released version?
[20:58] <mbeierl> Ok, sorry can't help :(
[20:59] <odinsbane> My computer makes a stange noise, which I couldn't begin to explain, but it doesn't make it with windows.  Maybe upgrading to jaunty will help.
[20:59] <mbeierl> odinsbane: yes it will be convenient.
[21:00] <mbeierl> odinsbane: as far as the noise goes... I have no idea ?!?
[21:00] <hggdh> odinsbane, if you are on Jaunty beta, just running update-manager will get you up-to-date, including to the released version
[21:00] <yoritomo> where does comes that noise ? dvd player cpu fan ??
[21:01] <odinsbane> yoritomo, its intermittant it sounds a bit like the hard drive.
[21:01] <yoritomo> maybe your motherboard cpu-fan is controled by the driver on your XP ?
[21:01] <yoritomo> ha :o
[21:01] <odinsbane> yoritomo: It sounds similar to when the hard drive runs.
[21:02] <yoritomo> that is strange then
[21:02] <yoritomo> i have no solutions to that
[21:02] <odinsbane> I was going to wait for jaunty to be released, but if there is a possiblity  this fixes it, I should probably try.
[21:03] <yoritomo> with hardy you had the problem too ?
[21:03] <odinsbane> I don't think so.
[21:03] <odinsbane> wait, I'm on hardy.
[21:03] <odinsbane> I am considering upgrading now.
[21:04] <mbeierl> it wouldn't be something like a difference in filesystem and syncing causing the hard drive simply to "sound" different than expected on ntfs, would it?
[21:04] <ScribbleJ> Hello fellow UBuntuers!  Can anyone tell me whether 9.04 includes xrandr 1.3?  You can tell if you are running it already, just "xrandr -v"
[21:04] <mbeierl> xrandr -v
[21:04] <mbeierl> Server reports RandR version 1.3
[21:05] <odinsbane> mbeierl: dunno could be.
[21:05] <ScribbleJ> Rock.  On.
[21:05] <yoritomo> who can receive the informations about the bug i got on kubuntu jaunty beta ?
[21:05] <ScribbleJ> Thanks, mbeierl you just made my day.
[21:05] <yoritomo> i think that may interrest you
[21:05] <mbeierl> ScribbleJ: you're welcome!  glad it was so easy :)
[21:07] <jshewey>  I am using jaunty and I think I am having trouble with ipv6 DNS lookups slowing my internet connection. IPv6 is built into the kernel in jaunty, so blacklisting the module has no effect. Anyone know how I might turn IPv6 off?
[21:08] <Turl> hi
[21:08] <deany> no long now http://www.duffydack.karoo.net/ubuntu/
[21:09] <Turl> will Transmission 1.52 get into jaunty?
[21:10] <yoritomo> the message i got with the printing utility in kde :
[21:10] <yoritomo> The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/kcm-scpk.pyThe factory does not support creating components of the specified type
[21:11] <Ienorand> Turl: if it's not there already, probably not since only proper bugs would change things at this point...
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> !info transmission
[21:12] <yoritomo> what do you mean lenorand ?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Turl: whats differnet in th new version?
[21:12] <yoritomo> ho sorry i did not see it was not for me
[21:13] <yoritomo> you have a page to report bugs in the beta version ?
[21:13] <yoritomo> i know, that is not for bugzilla
[21:13] <Turl> ActionParsnip: bugfixes I guess. As I read on some bug report, .2 were no-brainer
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Turl: does transmission 1.51 work ok for you?
[21:14] <Pici> !bugs | yoritomo
[21:14] <Turl> ActionParsnip: I dont use transmission that much
[21:15] <Turl> ActionParsnip: it's all bug fixes http://www.transmissionbt.com/
[21:15] <Turl> they have the changelog there
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Turl: then i wouldnt sweat it, you could always find a PPA but as you say i dont think it will be masively different due to the small increase in version number
[21:18] <Turl> ActionParsnip: yeah, I can get packages for it @ getdeb, but having it in the main repos would be better, don't you think?
[21:19] <Ienorand> Turl: The reason they arent upgraded is because of the possibility of introducing new bugs...
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Turl: if you install from getdeb you will need to uninstall it when the version comes onto the repos
[21:22] <phoenixz> The SVK package in ubuntu+1 seems to have a problem, I've uninstalled it, reinstalled it, etc.. install with apt-get all goes fine, but using the command gives the error that the perl package Time::Progress is missing..
[21:22] <phoenixz> Just manually installed that same package, and now SVK seems to work ok
[21:23] <phoenixz> Looks like SVK now indeed uses a progress bar for certain actions, something it didnt do before, so the Perl package is missing from the SVK package..
[21:27] <yoritomo> then now i checked if any broken packages, no result , so i plan to fix the kde printing configurator , but i am not really sure what i am doing
[21:27] <yoritomo> is it system-config-printer-kde ?
[21:28] <ScribbleJ> If I want to upgrade to Jaunty now, is there something trickier I need to do than just replacing the string in my apt sources and running a dist-upgrade?
[21:29] <ScribbleJ> n/m I went to the docs, sorry for the premature question.
[21:30] <deany> update-manager -d
[21:30] <ScribbleJ> Yeah, I'm on the right train now.
[21:33] <yoritomo> i reinstalled system-config-printer-kde and system-config-printer common, but no succes
[21:35] <yoritomo> don't know what to do, surely a failed update
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> ScribbleJ: kdesudo update-manager-kde -d
[21:35] <ScribbleJ> ActionParsnip, your action is firing a bit slow.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> ScribbleJ: give it time
[21:36] <Raylz> im trying to upgrade my kubuntu hardy to jaunty
[21:36] <Raylz> do i have to upgrade to ibex first?
[21:36] <Raylz> is a do-release-upgrade available in hardy?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[21:41] <philsf> Jaunty looking good so far, people! I have some spare time now, if any devel wants to test something.
[21:43] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: sry that doesnt anwer my question
[21:43] <chronic> when im searching repos with aptitude search, what switch will return version number?
[21:43] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: can i directly upgrade from hardy to jaunty?
[21:44] <chronic> i already tried v V -v -V and neither returns version number
[21:44] <philsf> Raylz: I just did
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Raylz: i'm unsure, ive always kept up with stuff so i couldnt say. you could backup your data and try it, if not do a clean install
[21:45] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: its a clean isntall
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Raylz: you will need the alternative cd if you want to upgrade and install with the same cd
[21:45] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: hm i install, boot to hardy, update the system, and edit the sources list
[21:46] <philsf> don't recommend, though, unless you really want to fix lots of things afterwards
[21:46] <Raylz> philsf: how did you do it?
[21:46] <Raylz> changing the sources.list?
[21:46] <Raylz> and aptitude dist-upgrade?
[21:46] <philsf> Raylz: I loosely followed Debian's release notes. It's a little more than just dist-upgrade
[21:47] <QPrime> ActionParsnip: I was under the impression that LTS -> LTS was good, but any non-LTS to any other version required a progressive upgrade (you needed to install all versions in series)
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> QPrime: thats what i thought but ive always clean installed
[21:48] <philsf> Raylz: I got into all sorts of problems because perl and python never got auto upgraded in time, and most python dependent packages didn't work. This includes a lot of Ubuntu's magic, so I suggest you to re-install, since it will probably be faster
[21:48] <Raylz> philsf: reinstall what :)?
[21:48] <QPrime> ActionParsnip: yeah, same here.
[21:48] <philsf> Raylz: you have Hardy and want Jaunty, right?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> QPrime: although to get video ok in jaunty i had to upgrade from a clean install of intrepid
[21:49] <Raylz> philsf: ill try unetbootin
[21:50] <Raylz> god dammit
[21:50] <Raylz> no unetbootin in arch
[21:50] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip how to erase the trace of a USB printer which has been already connected, the proprietary driver from Lexmark require it, when asking to connect the printer, he does not detects anything
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: find where the settings are held. i couldnt tell you personally
[21:54] <philsf> Raylz: if you really want to try this, I recommend to learn from my mistakes, and make sure python and python-minimal is upgraded ASAP
[21:54] <Raylz> philsf: ty, ill keep this in mind
[21:54] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip is it not a kind of USB information reset possible ?
[21:55] <yoritomo> something general i mean ?
[21:56] <yoritomo> because if it does not detect it, i guess it means it has been already installed with a generic driver on anything similar
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: well not that i know of
[21:57] <yoritomo> ok thanks
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you could access the localhost cups server and remove it there as well as the PPD
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> gksudo firefox http://localhost:631
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> or kdesudo depending on your DE
[21:58] <deany> mphill, installed latest wine in a vm, ran winecfg and its as slow as hell using it, not a vm issue either.. odd.
[21:59] <mphill> maybe there was a regression bug you found
[21:59] <mphill> considering submitting a ticket
[21:59] <deany> installed using todays iso
[21:59] <deany> it does display the tree tho
[21:59] <deany> and not make the vm hang.
[22:00] <deany> but xorg uses 50% cpu while running winecfg, for a few about 10 seconds afterwards too.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> deany: did you md5 test the iso?
[22:01] <deany> ActionParsnip, yeah, this is all an earlier discussion.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> ive slept since ;)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> deany: are you using wine off the wine repos?
[22:01] <deany> ive never had a bad iso, ever, not since testin md5sius
[22:01] <deany> md5sums
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> it takes seconds to test md5 and is totally worth it
[22:02] <deany> both stable wine and winhq repo
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> hmm, fully updated system?
[22:03] <deany> it locked my system up completely using jaunty (real install) when using a browser in wine.. like in drives tab, "browse"
[22:03] <deany> displays the window like it should but before it even gets to show any folder tree, it locks..
[22:03] <deany> REISUB dont work neither. but then again  hittin Caps lock dont turn it on so im guessin keyboard is even locked.
[22:04] <deany> its all fine in 8.10 tho
[22:04] <imachine> hey what's going on, is there an ubuntu jaunty cd available?
[22:04] <imachine> or is it dvd-only?
[22:08] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip when i config my printer by that web interface i just got a "unable to copy the PPD file"
[22:08] <yoritomo> how comes ?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> you need the ppd for your printer driver
[22:10] <yoritomo> do you know a website providing it ?
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: lexmark website, or try websearching
[22:13] <philsf> yoritomo: have you tried the openprinting ppds package?
[22:14] <td123> isn't the rc supposed to be released today?
[22:14] <td123> sorry if this is a question everyone gets on this channel :D
[22:14] <yoritomo> i am on the yellow page to install printer now, the link action gave to me, but this one told ppd is missing
[22:15] <philsf> td123: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule
[22:15] <mphill> i think tomorrow is rc
[22:15] <imachine> hey
[22:15] <imachine> is there cd images available?
[22:15] <imachine> or is it just dvd for januty?
[22:15] <imachine> jaunty*
[22:15] <yoritomo> buit even on intrepid i could not install this printer even with the prorietary driver
[22:15] <mphill> imachine: there is a cd for everything
[22:16] <mphill> i think even armel arch
[22:16] <imachine> mphill, can't find it.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mphill: for daily build: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:16] <td123> imachine: you're looking in the wrong place
[22:16] <imachine> mphill, could you help me?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mphill: for beta: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/
[22:16] <mphill> ActionParsnip: I know this, i was talking to imachine, but thanks
[22:16] <imachine> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/beta/
[22:16] <imachine> I was looking here
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> mphill: remember to md5 check any iso you download
[22:17] <imachine> oooh cd
[22:17] <imachine> thanks!
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> np
[22:19] <td123> ook
[22:19] <td123> because distrowatch.com has a different
[22:19] <td123> schedule, I guess they pushed the rc back but distrowatch.com didn't update their ubuntu schedule :d
[22:20] <bjsnider> they pushed the rc back?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> its not been updated then, just keep an eye on the ubuntu sites
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> bjsnider: i heard that but everyone seems to say its soon
[22:20] <td123> bjsnider: uhhh, look at distrowatch.com's ubuntu release schedule and the official release schedule
[22:20] <td123> stop being so frantic, they probably changed the date by 2 days a while back
[22:21] <bjsnider> i'm not being frantic
[22:24] <chronic> does anyone know if there is any shell that has a setting which places the cli command prompt on the bottom of the window?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> chronic: yakuake tells you the name of the folder, but not the full path
[22:25] <chronic> ActionParsnip, i dont think you understand me
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> chronic: ahhh, you mean so the prompt input is at the bottom rather than the top
[22:26] <ikonia> chronic: please show me the output of uname -a
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> chronic: like irc chat
[22:27] <chronic> ActionParsnip, right
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> chronic: yakuake (kde) does it, as does tilda if you use gnome
[22:27] <ikonia> chronic: please show me the output of uname -a
[22:28] <chronic> ActionParsnip, im using yakauke, dont see setting for it
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> chronic: the text eventually hits the bottom of the window and then the text appears above the command input line
[22:28] <ikonia> chronic: please show me the output of uname -a if you wish to get support in this channel
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> chronic: just fill the yakuake box, it will get to the bottom then it will act as you wish
[22:28] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: please hold for a moment
[22:28] <chronic> ikonia, you are braking up
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> chronic: entertain ikonia will you ;)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: why?
[22:30] <LjL> ActionParsnip: because chronic isn't really using 9.04, he's banned from other channels and trying to get support here instead
[22:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: becuase a.) he wasn't using 9.04 and that "breaking up" rubbish is what got him banned for other channels
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> i see
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> not heard "breaking up" before
[22:30] <LjL> ActionParsnip: anyway, one of those "graphical CLIs" for GNOME does what chronic was asking - don't remember which, but one of...'
[22:30] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's his way of saying "no"
[22:30] <LjL> ActionParsnip: hotwire, cui, blueterm
[22:30] <bjsnider> has anybody that uses intel graphcis tried this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/342923/comments/20
[22:30] <LjL> probably hotwire
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: gotcha, weird
[22:32] <philsf> can anyone confirm the following weird behaviour: put firefox in fullscreen (F11 key), hover pointer over any link, and when the balloon appears, the screen flickers. This happens everytime with me, and only in Jaunty
[22:32] <philsf> and only in fullscreen mode
[22:33] <wirechief> philsf what version of mesa do you have ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> philsf: i dont get a baloon when i hover over hyperlinks
[22:33] <philsf> wirechief: mesa-utils     7.4-0ubuntu1
[22:34] <philsf> ActionParsnip: you should wait a few seconds for that to appear
[22:35] <philsf> ActionParsnip: or maybe it only appears for links/images that have an alt-text
[22:35] <virtuald> i don't want a balloon, i want candy!
[22:35] <histo> Did we really need the aptitude safe-upgrade option?  What was wrong with upgrade vs. dist-upgrade?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> philsf: waited 20 seconds, i run LXDE btw whyich i dont think has it
[22:35] <philsf> wirechief: is this the package you were asking?
[22:35] <histo> Somethings devs do bothers me
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> philsf: can you give me a link to a page that does it
[22:36] <wirechief> philsf yes, i had to downgrade to 7.3 because of freezes, i have intel945
[22:36] <philsf> wirechief: I have intel945 also. is there a bug report about this?
[22:36] <philsf> ActionParsnip: sure, xkcd.com, it's a comic strip. the strip itself has an alt text
[22:37] <philsf> ActionParsnip: 2 or 3 secs should be enough
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> philsf: yeah i get the alt text on mouse over, no flicker
[22:37] <philsf> ActionParsnip: what's your video driver?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> philsf: jaunty 64bit kubuntu + lxde + nvidia 6150 + 180.44 driver
[22:38]  * philsf googles lxde...
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> lxde ftw
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[22:40] <wirechief> philsf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/359392  check to see if that has similar issue
[22:41] <philsf> wirechief: do you see the flicker with your 7.3 mesa?
[22:41] <wirechief> philsf no
[22:41] <philsf> wirechief: how can I  get it to test?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> philsf: try a different DE, see if its DE related
[22:43] <wirechief> philsf i think though if you had that bug you would be freezing and not have these other symptoms.
[22:43] <philsf> wirechief: just seen the links, thanks for the pointer
[22:44] <philsf> as in, links for mesa 7.3
[22:44] <wirechief> philsf well it seems they have run down the road pretty fast with that mesa stuff and could be a runaway garbage truck
[22:45] <philsf> wirechief: but aren't we late for a roll back?
[22:46] <wirechief> philsf well i dunno, it bit me around april 10th
[22:46] <wirechief> philsf i downloaded from distrowatch and it was fine with the livecd
[22:46] <philsf> hm, havent downgraded mesa yet, but disabling compiz makes the flicker go away, which makes sense
[22:46] <wirechief> philsf but bit hard when i du'd
[22:47] <wirechief> and thats when i got 7.4
[22:47] <Raylz> rofl
[22:47] <Raylz> zu geil
[22:47] <Raylz> oh wrong chan
[22:47] <wirechief> philsf also you can check your /var/log/dpkg.log to see if you got updated and when
[22:48] <philsf> wirechief: I upgraded to Jaunty after beta release, thus after apr 3
[22:49] <wirechief> maybe cat /var/log/dpkg.log  |grep mesa   and see if you went from 7.3 to 7.4 and when.
[22:49] <Logi> wirechief: 359392 could well be what's causing me to go insane here
[22:50]  * wirechief takes a swig of crazy juice
[22:50]  * Logi takes two steps back
[22:52] <Logi> similar freeze here, except I've not seen a distorted kubuntu logo, but I suppose that can depend on the memory layout for the exact video mode.
[22:52] <wirechief> well you really know if you got the bug if you freeze and there is info in the report on how to detect it.
[22:55]  * Logi is going to register and add his 2 pesos
[22:55] <wirechief> anyone haveing problems with usb-creator (usb startup disk ) ? with dropping to a intramfs shell..
[22:58] <Raylz> ActionParsnip: i used unetbootin to get the beta on my usb stick :)
[22:58] <Raylz> i discovered a broken ram too :)
[22:58] <Raylz> now it runs perfectly
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> Raylz: nice
[22:59] <wirechief> Raylz what version of unetbootin ?
[23:00] <Raylz> wirechief: the windows one, i guess arch linux has it in AUR, where i dont install stuff from
[23:00] <Raylz> the newest
[23:01] <wirechief> Raylz well there are lots of newest. the current i have seen is unetbooten-linux-319 but i know there is a 323 too
[23:02] <Raylz> wirechief: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[23:03] <Raylz> i guess thats the newest one from sourceforge
[23:03] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip, i found it in my syslog for the printer : [ 9026.457388] type=1503 audit(1239746537.207:29): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=7 name="/usr/local/lexmark/lxk08/etc/lxZ2300.ppd" pid=16434 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[23:03] <wirechief> right.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: ok then you found your ppd, you can move it out or point the cups web browser to that ppd
[23:05] <yoritomo> in fact i just selected my printer on the list
[23:05] <yoritomo> but i don't know where is the ppd file
[23:05] <Raylz> 10 days to go
[23:05] <Raylz> ?
[23:06] <Raylz> oh 8
[23:06] <Raylz> nice :)
[23:06] <Raylz> will there be any rc isos?
[23:06] <wirechief> yoritomo have you tried locate ?
[23:07] <yoritomo> how to use it ? on the web page ? find new printer yes
[23:07] <wirechief> Raylz the daily build would be very close to the rc at this moment in time.
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: then point it to the ppd which you now know the location of
[23:08] <yoritomo> i don't know where is that ppd file
[23:08] <yoritomo> where is it stored ?
[23:08] <wirechief> "/usr/local/lexmark/lxk08/etc/lxZ2300.ppd"
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: if you'd read what YOU pasted, you would have seen it
[23:13] <yoritomo> the printer has been added
[23:13] <yoritomo> now i will try it
[23:14] <philsf> wirechief, downgrading mesa to 7.3 doesn't solve for me
[23:14] <wirechief> philsf ;(
[23:15] <wirechief> oh well
[23:15] <wirechief> are you only clear when you disable the compiz /
[23:15] <wirechief> ?
[23:15] <philsf> so far, it seems so
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade
[23:17] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip  wirechief nothing happens when i launch the test page
[23:20] <wirechief> yoritomo: is that a USB printer or network ?
[23:20] <yoritomo> usb
[23:20] <wirechief> hmm. does it show up in lsusb ?
[23:23] <yoritomo> "Unable to start filter "/usr/local/lexmark/lxk08/bin/printdriver" -  i see that when trying to print the test page
[23:24] <yoritomo> the result of lsusb Bus 005 Device 005: ID 043d:00bb Lexmark International, Inc. 2300 Series
[23:25] <yoritomo> wirechief ActionParsnip i checked that file is present
[23:27] <Barridus> does gnome/gtk have any nice "keystone" packages that can be removed, triggering apt-get autoremove to get the most of it.  i'm switching to KDE and don't need the bloat of two toolkits/WM's
[23:29] <Barridus> or is there any other way to do it without having to verify a zillion packages and whether or not i need/want them?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: then ive no idea personally
[23:30] <thopiekar> german users: please join #ubuntu.de+1, thanks :P
[23:30] <wirechief> yoritomo: you can check this thread out for maybe a solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516804
[23:30] <wirechief> yoritomo: no guareentees though ;)
[23:34] <wirechief> yoritomo: is that a Lexmark 2300  ? or what model ?
[23:42] <yoritomo> E [15/Apr/2009:00:23:22 +0200] PID 17401 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdf) stopped with status 1! il error log of cups
[23:42] <yoritomo> Lexmark 2300 series yes
[23:43] <yoritomo> a proprietary driver exists but on time to connect, not detected
[23:43] <yoritomo> they tell to be sure to don't plug before to install
[23:46] <yoritomo> wirechief, that is why i am trying to find a way to delete definitely the previous detections of this printer on the computer
[23:46] <wirechief> yoritomo: yes there are issues with installing drivers and the printer being on, not sure when you turn it off. that how to gets pretty deep in code unfortunately
[23:46] <wirechief> i would use locate    do updatedb in a terminal first to update the database it uses
[23:46] <yoritomo> i tryed to check the script, but i could not find any relevant lines about the detection
[23:46] <wirechief> and then do locate on everything lexmark
[23:47] <yoritomo> what to type for locate ?
[23:47] <wirechief> but you want to keep track of where the .ppd file is for future trys
[23:47] <wirechief> locate Lexmark
[23:48] <wirechief> you may have to install locate   with apt-get install locate
[23:48] <wirechief> its really handy for finding stuff but you have to updatedb  when new stuff is added.
[23:49] <yoritomo> it gave a big list
[23:49] <wirechief> i am sure
[23:50] <yoritomo> i got the ppd already
[23:50] <wirechief> i have a brother MCNxxxx and had several steps to do before i could install it, i went to the brother web site and got my drivers  i had to install lpr drivers first then cuppswrapper
[23:52] <wirechief> I would think that Lexmark has the proper drivers for your printer.
[23:52] <yoritomo> horrible to install drivers
[23:54] <yoritomo> i think i will go to sleep now
[23:54] <yoritomo> almost 1am already
[23:58] <wirechief> yoritomo: well ive done some searching for you and it doesnt look very promising with Lexmark 2300 and linux from what ive seen so far.


[06:56] <ara> good morning all!
[08:19] <ara> morning davmor2
[08:20] <davmor2> morning ara
[09:33]  * ara reaches inbox 0 and takes a break
[09:47] <davmor2> ara: that's impressive
[10:18] <ara> davmor2, now we have to reach coverage=100% and we can take another break :D
[11:12] <davmor2> Yay back from the hospital again now :)
[11:14] <davmor2> ara: are you still getting pending updates on hardy.4
[11:14] <ara> davmor2, yes, python2.5
[11:15] <davmor2> ara: it's okay got answered on u-release
[11:15] <davmor2> I'll have a play with the iso's in  a bit got a couple of things I need to do first :)
[11:17] <ara> davmor2, ok :)
[13:41]  * ara -> lunch
[14:47] <davmor2> morning fader_ cr3 marjo
[14:48] <fader_> davmor2: Morning
[14:48] <cr3> davmor2: hey dude
[14:48] <marjo> davmor2: top of the morning!
[14:49] <davmor2> hey guys you forget what a beautiful desktop hardy had.  We really need something similar for lucid :)
[14:50] <fader_> davmor2: Fire up the GIMP and get started ;)
[14:51] <davmor2> to busy testing living and learning python, besides my art skills suck.  So over to you fader_
[14:51]  * charlie-tca waves
[14:54] <davmor2> morning charlie-tca how's things with you today
[14:54] <charlie-tca> Looking good. Hoping to get some testing in
[15:05] <davmor2> ara: next .4 test you run can you open firefox goto http://www.vimeo.com and see if flash is found by firefoxes plugin finder please?
[15:05] <ara> davmor2, sure
[15:07] <ara> davmor2, it works for me
[15:07] <davmor2> is that on 32bit?
[15:08] <ara> davmor2, wait, it is still looking
[15:09] <ara> davmor2, what happens for you? does it get stuck looking for plugins?
[15:10] <davmor2> ara: it sticks for a bit then eventually it say install plugins click next but there are no plugins located
[15:10] <ara> davmor2, same thing happens here
[15:10] <davmor2> slangasek: ^ this could be an issue
[15:20] <davmor2> ara: bug 512359
[15:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512359 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox's plugin finder fails to install flash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512359
[15:21] <ara> davmor2, thanks. confirmed
[18:56] <charlie-tca> hmmm, testing Ubuntu 8.04.4 desktop, after setting a static IP, no apps will open?
[21:04] <slangasek> davmor2, ara: is bug #512359 a regression vs. 8.04.3?
[21:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512359 in ubufox "Firefox's plugin finder fails to install flash" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512359
[22:26] <charlie-tca> upgrade test from 8.04.4 to lucid, An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify.
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Does each "fail to upgrade ..." need a separate bug report?
[22:57] <charlie-tca> Open office requires Java installed to upgrade?
[23:24] <charlie-tca> Ooops, Alt+F2, update-manager -d per the release notes - http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2#Upgrading%20from%20Ubuntu%209.10%20or%20Ubuntu%208.04%20LTS upgraded 8.04.4 to 9.10
[23:24] <charlie-tca> I will another one to verify


[05:38] <JanC> sounds like a hardware issue indeed...
[19:01] <bdmurray> I'm trying to change the milestone for the adsys task in bug 1929038 and just get an Error dialog with an OK button.
[19:11] <bdmurray> I was able to change it to what I want using the dropdown list of milestones but using the edit pencil by the milestone name it will still barf if I choose "Remove milestone".
[21:54] <Eickmeyer> Not sure what's going on, but I have a buiuld running on lcy02-amd64-014 that is currently acting stuck. Basically, a nonexistant build log.
[21:54] <Eickmeyer> For 11 minutes. For a metapackage.
[21:54] <Eickmeyer> NFM, it finally finished. Carry on.
[21:54] <Eickmeyer> *nvm
[23:00] <realtime-neil> What is the proper way to configure a deb822-style sources.list such that it consumes the `main/debug` component of a PPA _without_ causing apt to spit a bunch of errors?
[23:03] <realtime-neil> sed 's/error/warning/'
[23:03] <realtime-neil> Here's something that _doesn't_ work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5GkkcYWfN9/
[23:12] <realtime-neil> Related question: does https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive-tools/tree/mark-suite-dirty force the (re) generation of a `main/debug` component in a PPA?
[23:17] <realtime-neil> Related question the second: What is the best way to force launchpad to generate main/debug indices for a given PPA?