[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Optrx:some cards make a weird bug on WPA, i would doublecheck WEP security
[07:00] <Flux_> everything is maxed out in alsa mixer. odd.
[07:00] <Oprtx> soreau:  it is 12,04 the latest version and i update it every day :(
[07:01] <stefg> Hi room! Does anyone know how/where the default window positio in unity is set? For some reason all new windows have their default opening position on the bottom right screen edge... which is quite inconvenient
[07:01] <foolsh> Shafan: for learning at home the desktop version will let you get familiar see here for how to install a SQL and web servers on ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/index.html
[07:01] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje: ok i will try to use WEP
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Optrx:http://<IP_ADDRESS> and change wpa2 to wep
[07:01] <soreau> stefg: ccsm>Place Windows
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: I would avoid WEP, it's not very secure at all.
[07:01]  * stefg looks
[07:01] <AquaGirlLove> DarwinSurvivor: It worked.  However, I get 2 icons on top of each other in the desktop pager of the lxpanel.
[07:02] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  thanks for the advice i will do so
[07:02] <soreau> Jordan_U: I think he's just asking him to try it for testing purposes
[07:02] <Oprtx> and confirm it to u
[07:02] <wylde> WEP = locking your front door with scotch tape ....
[07:02] <jagginess> !wep
[07:02] <soreau> wylde: yea ;)
[07:02] <jagginess> ^
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> wylde: its only for testing the wifi disconnects
[07:02] <nastas> Flux_: are you sure? try to navigate to the right with arrowkeys
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> wylde: and by the way, wpa2 is also unsafe
[07:03] <wylde> lotuspsychje: alrighty :) Just sayin'
[07:03] <Oprtx> ubottu:  is saying its not good :(
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:03] <Flux_> nastas, yeah I tried that xD
[07:03] <Oprtx> lotuspsychje:  but i will try it
[07:03] <Flux_> its not a problem per say. netbook volume just sucks.
[07:03] <soreau> lotuspsychje: if you choose a strong password and disable wps for your router, wpa(2) is fine
[07:03] <Flux_> with windows I was able to get a tiny bit more out of it
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: As long as you make sure to change it back when you're done testing it's fine.
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> soreau:some pentest livecd can crack everything
[07:04] <stefg> soreau: Thanks! Window placement was set to "intelligent" .... I'd rather call this mode "stupid" ... :-)
[07:04] <Oprtx> Jordan_U:  thanks
[07:04] <soreau> lotuspsychje: I'd like to see that really. AFAIK, wpa(2) us pretty secure if setup properly
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Oprtx: You're welcome.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> soreau:im not sure if everyone would agree with that, but offtopic :p
[07:05] <Oprtx> does any body knows how to update kernal ? because i want to install latest driver for my wifi card, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[07:05] <soreau> stefg: heh
[07:05] <soreau> no problem
[07:05] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: good to hear. Please file a bug report against elinks explaining exactly what happened (including that output with "... -e -e ..." and the changes you made to fix it
[07:05] <Gamoder> Hi everyone, I got the following problem: I want to extract single pictures from my webcam as .jpg using luvcview, but, when opening luvcview, I just get the following error message:
[07:05] <Oprtx> and friend, i am totalllly new to this linux thing
[07:05] <Gamoder> ERROR: Requested frame format MJPG is not available and no fallback format was found.
[07:05] <Gamoder>  Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
[07:05] <soreau> lotuspsychje: link me in pm, I'm curious now
[07:05] <AquaGirlLove> DarwinSurvivor: How do I do that?
[07:05] <Gamoder> The webcam does work in cheese, so I guess I just need some configuration/parameters/etc. for luvcview
[07:06] <jagginess> Oprtx, upgrade the distro? latest is like 3.xx
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> !bug | AquaGirlLove
[07:06] <Oprtx> jagginess:  how ??? tell me command
[07:06] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: just type "ubuntu-bug elinks" in a terminal and it should start the process for you
[07:06] <Oprtx> jagginess:  i am using 12.04 ubuntu
[07:06] <jagginess> Oprtx, download the latest ubuntu and sing la la la
[07:07] <Oprtx> jagginess:  lalalal :)
[07:07] <Shafan> lotuspsychje, foolsh, Thank you both for your help
[07:07] <sulaiman> noob question, how can I launch a file explorer as admin from command line?
[07:07] <wylde> sulaiman: gksu nautilus
[07:07] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: noob question, why do you need to?
[07:07] <sulaiman> wylde, thanks, i will try
[07:07] <AquaGirlLove> Do I need to make a Launchpad account?
[07:08] <wylde> AquaGirlLove: if you're filing a bug I believe so yes.
[07:08] <stefg> sulaiman, wylde : should actually be 'gksudo'
[07:08] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, for example, I am in /var/www/ directory
[07:08] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: yes, that way if they have any questions (like the ones we had for you), you will get notified. It makes the bugs MUCH easier to fix if they can communicate with the person that filed it
[07:08] <wylde> stefg: gksu and gksudo are the same AFAIK
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: is this for website work?
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> Okay.  Will do.  Again, thank you very very much. :)
[07:09] <DarwinSurvivor> AquaGirlLove: no problem
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> :)
[07:09] <wylde> stefg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21033/what-is-the-difference-between-gksudo-and-gksu
[07:09] <AquaGirlLove> Bye. :)
[07:10] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:10] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, yes, I am running a simple web stack on this machine, it would be convenient if I could open up a explorer from the directory I was in
[07:10] <stompbox>  /server Irc.anonops.pro
[07:11] <stefg> wylde: yes, because ubuntu made it work that way... noob friendliness.  In the good old days (tm) su inherited the complete root environment, while sudo just executed the command as root in user context.
[07:11] <kernelcruncher> is it possible to use ubuntuone like dropbox and have public url's
[07:11] <sulaiman> wylde, stefg: is it possible to send the current working directory as a parameter to nautilus, gksudo nautilus pwd didn't work
[07:11] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: is it only one website you are running on the server?
[07:12] <wylde> sulaiman: gksudo nautilus /path/to/dir  a window will open asking for you password.
[07:12] <stefg> sulaiman: there is a nautilus extension which adds a "open as administrator" (freely translated fom german" right click menu entry
[07:13] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: you should try not to use sudo-powered file managers, instead you should add yourself to the www group so that you can use your regular user privileges to edit the files
[07:13] <_jon180_> while using flash in chrome and firefox, my cpu usage is very high in 12.04, i see an unbuntu question about this but no bug report, is there a known solution?
[07:13] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, oh, I should do that.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> stefg: While "su" (without any username) would default to running a shell and "sudo" would default to running the command passed to it, gksu and gksudo both always ran only a command and never started a root shell (which wouldn't make much sense in a GUI context). gksu defaults to using sudo in Ubuntu so that they could be compatible with upstream .desktop files for GUI applications that ran as root.
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: flash is a closed-source binary-blob application to which ubuntu does not have the ability to edit, so fixing bugs in it is 100% Adobe's responsability
[07:14] <sulaiman> thanks for the help wylde, stefg, DarwinSurvivor
[07:14] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: I would recommend against writing your website with root permissions, instead you should set up your permissions properly so you can edit the website as a normal user
[07:15] <szal> _jon180_: solution: don't use Flash.. (1) what DarwinSurvivor said, (2) Flash development for Linux has been canceled, there will only be security-related fixes in the future
[07:15] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, i am looking into adding my use to the www group
[07:15] <_jon180_> how else can i use pandora for example?
[07:15] <sulaiman> user*
[07:15] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: "sudo usermod -a -G www your_username_here"
[07:15] <_jon180_> is there an alternative to flash?
[07:16] <stefg> !permissions | sulaiman
[07:16] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: you will need to log out, then back in again for the change to take effect
[07:17] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: then just make sure your /var/www directory is set to rwxrwxr-x (755) permissions (more info on the page supplied by stefg)
[07:17] <Jordan_U> szal: _jon180_: Google will stil be providing a flash plugin, it will just depend on the PPAPI, which is currently only supported by Chrome[ium].
[07:17] <_jon180_> i use chrome, how do i switch to that?
[07:17] <stefg> _jon180_: nothing that works well ... there's gnash , and there are firefox extensions like flash replacer . The problem with both is that you d/l the file before watching or can't seek in the video
[07:18] <DarwinSurvivor> sulaiman: that way anyone in the www group can edit the code. If you've already edited some code in there as root, you'll need to change the owner of those files. Let us know if you need help with that
[07:18] <_jon180_> this worked very well in 10.04, so is it that likely to be a bug with flash that only exists in ubuuntu 12.04?
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> stefg: for youtube there is also minitube
[07:19] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:19] <sulaiman> DarwinSurvivor, stefg thanks for the info, I will try this out in a bit
[07:19] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: it's very hard to tell with flash. Most likely it's the newer version of flash (10.04 had an older version) that has the bug
[07:20]  * szal supposes that the usage of Flash will significantly decrease come the release of Windows 8
[07:20] <_jon180_> so it sounds like there is not much i can do
[07:21] <gua> do you have to register to attend UDS? since i'm getting an error when i try
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> _jon180_: unfortunately not. Go ahead and file a bug report anyways in case someone clever can come up with a work-around
[07:22] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: if you get an error, please post the error!
[07:22] <_jon180_> ok, thanks for the help
[07:23] <gua> on https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/ when i click on    "Register or sign in"    i get    "OpenID discovery error: Error fetching XRDS document: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')"
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> szal: what does w8 use for flash then?
[07:25] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: looks like a server bug!
[07:25] <szal> lotuspsychje: W8 will rely heavily on HTML5
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> szal: for ubuntu there's gnash alternative i hear...
[07:25] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: you get it too? :(
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: well, it does say you need to log in through launchpad first, so my guess is it will work after you do that and it simply isn't a very descriptive error message :P
[07:26] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i had a feeling it was something like that
[07:26] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i will try that, one moment
[07:26] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: so probably not a bug, just a *badly* returned error message!
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> szal: html5 is already being injected badly right
[07:27] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: user experience bug :P
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: exactly
[07:27] <szal> lotuspsychje: Gnash is a crutch, not much more than an emergency drop-in
[07:27] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: my guess is they are fully aware of it, and that's why the put they very explicit warning above the button
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> szal:strange that these days adobe still rules(with all there security flaws)
[07:30] <stefg> lotuspsychje: flash is an example for de-facto standards, that even the creator can't get rid of.... adobe themselves are telling in their roadmap that tey want to deprecate flash. But there is still so much money being made with flash that you just can't cut the throat of the beast
[07:30] <DarwinSurvivor> lotuspsychje: you can thank flash games and video streaming for that (and artists that never should have been allowed to touch a corporate server)
[07:31] <DarwinSurvivor> anyway, we're starting to get offtopic here
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> makes me wondering if theres not already exploits for ubuntu flash
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> we can discuss precise flash security right
[07:31] <DarwinSurvivor> lotuspsychje: as it relates to ubuntu, of course
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> so the whole world is vunrable on flash, why is ubuntu safe of it?
[07:32] <DarwinSurvivor> there are a few exploits in flash that work in ubuntu, but none that I know of that give them access to anything other than other flash sites
[07:33] <B|tchX> !bitchx
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> xchat rules
[07:33] <DarwinSurvivor> basically, flash has VERY little protection keeping a flash applet from one site/tab from messing with another flash applet, but flash itself is fairly well sandboxed
[07:33] <richardlxc> is there any software in ubuntu ,which is like win7 explorer?
[07:33] <stefg> lotuspsychje: ubuntu isn't 100% safe... but the consequences of a vulnerability are dramatically lower than on the windows platform....
[07:33]  * B|tchX slaps lotuspsychje ^5
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> stefg: well thats a realistic answer
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> richardlxc:there is addon for firefox to simulate win explorer
[07:36] <DarwinSurvivor> richardlxc: windows explorer is actually 2 applications. it is a file manager and a desktop environment, of which are you referring?
[07:38] <richardlxc> lotuspsychje: thank you
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> richardlxc: i think its called user agent switcher
[07:39] <richardlxc> DarwinSurvivor: i want to see process state
[07:40] <stefg> richardlxc: gnome-system-monitor or (h)top :-)
[07:40] <richardlxc> stefg: like chrome process ,and we can see ip address
[07:40] <agronholm> hi, I'm having trouble getting the Ubuntu ISO to boot, at least as virtual media -- 10.04 boots fine, anything after that does not
[07:41] <agronholm> I get the message "Boot Failed. CD/DVD Rom"
[07:41] <agronholm> Lenovo ThinkServer TD200
[07:41] <stefg> richardlxc:  man ps
[07:41] <DarwinSurvivor> richardlxc: that is not explorer, that would be "process manager" in which case stefg has your answer
[07:41] <agronholm> any clues as to what I should do
[07:41] <agronholm> ?
[07:41] <airzonk> guys, is there any way to install ubuntu from a SD card in an android phone? the SD card is blank. I cannot run windows apps right now, other than firefox
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: which versions have you tried (the ones that failed)
[07:42] <richardlxc> DarwinSurvivor: just like netstat
[07:42] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: i tried with two browsers after logging into launchpad.net and i get the same error :(
[07:42] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: also, did you make sure you grabbed the correct architecture (32 bit vs 64 bit)?
[07:42] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: every single one (for the amd64 arch)
[07:42] <agronholm> yes, I'm sure
[07:42] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to write a script to do the following: launch the screen command, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, ctrl+a+c, run a command, etc.......after launching a few commands the screen detaches itself, how do i do this....
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: hmm, sorry, I don't know much about the site itself, if it's not working after logging in (as instructed), then there may be a bug. The only thing I can think of is making sure you have noscript/etc disabled first
[07:43] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: I've tried 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04
[07:43] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: and you are 100% certain your system is 64 bit?
[07:43] <agronholm> every one of those ends up with the same error message
[07:43] <gua> DarwinSurvivor: yeah in firefox i made sure to, but then i tried chromium and chromium has no addons
[07:44] <agronholm> yes.
[07:44] <agronholm> it's a xeon e5504 cpu
[07:44] <DarwinSurvivor> gua: then there's nothing more I can do, perhaps contacting the UDS team will help resolve the problem
[07:45] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: the thing is, they all boot in "legacy" mode but then fail when trying to verify the CD
[07:46] <mongo> paranoidphreak: expect
[07:46] <agronholm> that is, if I choose to boot from the "legacy only" boot device
[07:46] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: please explain what you mean by "as virtual media" and "legacy mode"
[07:46] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: do you know what an IMM is?
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: IMM has a few definitions :P
[07:47] <agronholm> integrated management module
[07:47] <agronholm> allows me to remote control the machine
[07:47] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: no, i'm not familiar with that one
[07:47] <paranoidphreak> mongo: expect????
[07:47] <mongo> agronholm: i'm betting the device name changed in the newer kernels, try to net boot
[07:47] <agronholm> mongo: what device name?
[07:47] <mongo> paranoidphreak: it is a scritping language for interactive terminal sessions
[07:48] <stefg> !info expect
[07:48] <mongo> agronholm: agronholm the root block device
[07:48] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: so I have the cd images on my local hard drive and the machine I'm trying to boot is physically elsewhere
[07:48] <paranoidphreak> mongo: oh k.........i'll look into that........thanks
[07:48] <agronholm> so I am mounting the images as virtual cdrom devices
[07:48] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: so it's like a remote virtual machine then
[07:48] <agronholm> that's how I installed the current OS
[07:49] <agronholm> except it's not a virtual machine
[07:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Have you checked the md5sum of the isos?
[07:49] <mongo> agronholm: yes but you have the bios device, which is remounted as the root device after the kernel bootstraps
[07:49] <sobersab1e> hi.
[07:49] <mongo> if the device name is not as it expects it will not boot
[07:49] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I just downloaded them, I doubt every one of themis botched
[07:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: What error message do you get when you try to verify the CD?
[07:49] <xuserx> hello
[07:49] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: and the original 10.04 iso *does* boot?
[07:49] <agronholm> DarwinSurvivor: yes.
[07:50] <mongo> most of those type of virtual CD's looked like a CD device, but in more modern kernels they tend to look like block devices
[07:50] <xuserx> how can i install sun java in xubuntu 12.04?
[07:50] <agronholm> mongo, so I'm hosed then? no way to do a remote install?
[07:50] <sobersabre> hi again.
[07:50] <mongo> agronholm: pxe boot
[07:50] <DarwinSurvivor> agronholm: mongo seems to be more familiar with your type of setup than I am, so try what he's suggesting
[07:50] <agronholm> mongo, I don't really know how to set that up
[07:51] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Or using the netboot iso image should also work (even without netbooting).
[07:51] <agronholm> what netboot iso image?
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[07:51] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: do you also need the browser plugin or just for a java application?
[07:51] <stefg> DarwinSurvivor, agronholm : I think casper changed after 10.04 to facilitate USB boots. that might explain the breakage of remote virtual drives
[07:51] <mongo> agronholm: if you can find what the new root device name is you could change it in grub
[07:51] <xuserx> java + browser plugin
[07:52] <stefg> !install | agronholm
[07:52] <agronholm> mongo, that would help if I could actually get grub to start
[07:52] <xuserx> sun java ,sun java-plugin
[07:52] <stefg> !automate
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> !java | xuserx
[07:52] <agronholm> but it fails even before the SAS controller initializes
[07:52] <mongo> stefg: ya, and system bios use to require you to set a usb device as a HD or a cd or a floppy
[07:52] <Jordan_U> agronholm: But it would be *really* helpfull to know the error message you get when you try to verify the CD, and I'm assuming that by "Verify the CD" you mean the "Check CD for Defects" boot option.
[07:52] <agronholm> jordan: yes
[07:52] <Jordan_U> !minimal | agronholm
[07:52] <DarwinSurvivor> xuserx: follow those instructions. stick to OpenJDK as the Oracle stuff has been causing problem lately (due to Oracle meddling)
[07:52] <agronholm> Jordan_U: alright alright
[07:52] <mongo> agronholm you are pre standard ipmi
[07:53] <agronholm> standard ipm?
[07:53] <mongo> agronholm: basiclly it is standarized on newer hardware
[07:54] <mongo> which doesn't help you much but should be a positive thing to look forward to in the future :)
[07:54] <agronholm> this machine was bought in 2010 :/
[07:54] <agronholm> and it was a new model then
[07:54] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Is there a reason you haven't stated the error message you see? If you don't recall and can't test again right now or similar please say so rather than simply ignoring the question.
[07:55] <mongo> the management plane is legacy though
[07:55] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I'm just booting in legacy mode now
[07:55] <agronholm> because I don't recall the exact message and it was localized anyway
[07:56] <mongo> agronholm: if you have a dhcp server on the network pxe is great, you can chain boot into ipxe and just give it a html url
[07:56] <mongo> http://ipxe.org/cmd/chain
[07:57] <agronholm> Jordan_U: scanning cd-rom...
[07:57] <mongo> I don't have it anywhere public yet but I have it set up at home and in the lab at work to net boot to a menu where I can choose install/rescue or live images for debian/ubuntu/fedora and it boots to a mirror
[07:57] <agronholm> checking cd-rom integrity...
[07:58] <kandinski> so I enabled mouseover "sloppy" focus using gnome-tweak-took, but I also get an unwanted behaviour
[07:58] <agronholm> now it stalled at manpages-dev_3.35-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb
[07:59] <agronholm> I'm seeing that it's doing repeated read attempts from the virtual cd
[07:59] <kandinski> the active focus window also comes on top after two seconds or so of acquiring focus
[07:59] <sobersabre> is there a way to get all my photos from picasaweb and google +  ?
[07:59] <kandinski> which preempts the purpose of having focus follows mouse IMO
[07:59] <kandinski> any idea of a fix?
[07:59] <sobersabre> (except downloading them one by one)
[07:59] <|MUSE|> the terminal in guake and yakuake behave differently than gnome-terminal, how do i get a consistent behaviour
[08:00] <sobersabre> |MUSE|: they are different applications....
[08:00] <whitman> So, anyone know a method of changing an nvidia card fan speed in 12.04 now that nvclock seems to seg fault all the time?
[08:00] <stefg> agronholm: if i were you i wouldn't waste any more time in trying to install by remote CD-ROM. Read the netinstall howto and use it. As a side effect you will have a completly updated system after install. All a netinst-image needs to do is getting the kernel an the initrd in memory, the rest is done over the net. No use in dealing with broken virtual drives
[08:01] <|MUSE|> sobersabre: no doupt, but it seem that gnome-terminal is eightbit enabled, and I cant seem to get gauke/yakuake into 8bit mode
[08:01] <sobersabre> stefg: unless that virtual drive is in a
[08:01] <sobersabre> LAN
[08:01] <mongo> agronholm: if you get pxe boot going it works for any machine on that ethernet segment
[08:01] <sobersabre> |MUSE|: 8-bit of unicode ?
[08:01] <UrB> sobersabre: google takeout?
[08:01] <agronholm> ok I'll try that
[08:01] <agronholm> thanks for the tip
[08:01] <sobersabre> UrB: takeout ?
[08:01] <sobersabre> what is that ?
[08:02] <UrB> service to download all your data in google services
[08:02] <UrB> haven't tried it in practice, but I'd imagine that does what you were after earlier
[08:03] <mongo> I find it funny that launchpad still has a bias twards i386 for builds
[08:03] <UrB> https://www.google.com/takeout/
[08:03] <|MUSE|> sobersabre: sorry I have got my problems mixed up, I actually cant get an audible bell from the dropdown terms
[08:03] <UrB> you can choose only picasa there
[08:03] <mongo> isn't it close to 50:50 these days for the install base?
[08:04] <sobersabre> UrB: how about g+ ?
[08:05] <Zeising> What are the logical next step in debugging when nfs mounts get uid/gid<PHONE_NUMBER> and the idmapper is running? I'm running out of ideas on what can cause this. THis is nfs v4 from a solaris server to a ubuntu 12.04 client, using autofs.
[08:05] <sobersabre> UrB:  BTW, thanks for reminding me aboud DLF :)
[08:05] <mardraum> Zeising: do you have the users and groups created on both sides
[08:06] <mongo> Zeising: you can cheat and specify vers=3 as a mount option
[08:06] <mardraum> is the idmap service, whatever it is called, running on the solaris side?
[08:06] <sobersabre> Zeising: is it possible you're using some active directory integration tool (centrifydc) ?
[08:06] <mongo> Zeising: are you running ldap or NIS?
[08:06] <UrB> sobersabre: I think in context of pictures G+ == Picasa
[08:07] <UrB> albums created by G+ are there just like others
[08:07] <UrB> could be wrong too
[08:07] <sobersabre> UrB: as far as I know: >>> G+ [08:07] <sobersabre> UrB: as far as I know: >>> False
[08:07] <sobersabre> :)
[08:07] <UrB> hehe
[08:07] <sobersabre> sorry fro mixing js and python :)
[08:07] <UrB> but, that should help you a bit
[08:07] <sobersabre> indeed.
[08:08] <sobersabre> Thanks, gtg
[08:08] <DarwinSurvivor> mongo: installing 64bit OS on 32bit hardware won't work, installing 32bit OS on 64bit hardware will just limit your ram and make stuff SLIGHTLY less efficient
[08:08] <mongo> Zeising: also if you are on sol11 ignore anything that isn't on oracles site, they change the idmap config massivlly in the last release
[08:08] <Zeising> mongo: mardraum sobersabre: Since it did work before the upgrade to 12.04 (from 10.04) I assume so. Yes, I can run vers3, but it should work with 4 imo. and no ldap involved, just "plain" nis.
[08:08] <Zeising> mongo: it's the last "free" solaris
[08:09] <Zeising> I have to check that the portmapper there is running. That I haven't thought of yet.
[08:09] <DarwinSurvivor> mongo: also, Skype and Flash tend to work better/easier on 32bit (though I haven't had an issue with flash in over a year)
[08:09] <anon> Is there any log file or way to find out what directories a user accessed in the last 120 minutes?
[08:09] <mongo> Zeising: linux really doesn't to nfs v4 very well
[08:09] <stefg> Zeising: I'd blame autofs first (did lots of wierd things to me) and try a manual mount for debugging purposes.... the next steps . i guess, would involve strace
[08:09]  * nikolja dobar dan
[08:09] <mongo> DarwinSurvivor: it is just frustrating, i'm waiting to see if this fork of libvirt builds ;) not very useful on 32bit
[08:09] <Zeising> stefg: manual mounting didn't help
[08:10] <|MUSE|> does anyone know how to set guake to use audible bells, or just what file handles the settings in the terminal it uses?
[08:10] <Zeising> mongo: what version does 10.04 use by default?
[08:10] <mongo> Zeising: if you don't need ACL's which being on NIS you dont' just use version 3
[08:10] <Zeising> mongo: because that's what I can compare with :)
[08:11] <stefg> Zeising: and as a hint : try #ubuntu-server as well :-)
[08:11] <action09> hi , I'm not sure to understand, i've a 10.04 server, to upgrade to 12.04, it's preferrable to wait July month ? cf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades  : " until the first point release, due in July"
[08:11] <agronholm> why?
[08:12] <kokyu> hey. how do I check what package the /path/to/file belongs to ?
[08:12] <agronholm> dpkg -S
[08:12] <mongo> Zeising: funny enough I can't find a 10.04 host to test heh, most people have upgraded
[08:12] <Zeising> action09: it's because then someone else has ironed out the bugs for you. FOr critical infrastructure it's said to never upgrade to a .0 release, because they tend to be more buggy...
[08:12] <mongo> in my org
[08:12] <kokyu> ah, thanks, agronholm :)
[08:12] <Zeising> mongo: I'm preparing a move from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:12] <action09> Zeising ok it's what i understand :) thx  :)
[08:12] <Zeising> mongo: this is (hopefully) the last issue
[08:12] <tsimpson> action09: the upgrade process is getting it's first real-life use, it's likely there will be some bugs there, and the extra month allows them to be fixed for all those people that *need* a stable upgrade process
[08:13] <agronholm> I'm also upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[08:13] <stefg> action09: Don't bet the farm on the upgrade process going smoothly .... would be the first time in history that an ubuntu LTS-to-LTS upgrade actually works :\
[08:13] <agronholm> but I want to do a clean install, I don't think do-release-upgrade would work for me
[08:13] <Flux_> anyone know where I can find a ubuntu style theme for MATE?
[08:13] <mongo> kokyu: fgrep /path/to/file /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list
[08:13] <action09> stefg lol including Unity stuff ^^
[08:14] <mongo> Zeising: I would just make sure to do vers=3 until you migrate to krb for unix auth
[08:14] <Zeising> stefg: I actually got LTS->LTS to work, baring some kinks. But it's faster to just reinstall, especially if you have all confs centrally located :)
[08:14] <anon> Why can I not use find /path -name '/' -amin -120 to find all directories that were accessed in the last 120 minutes?
[08:14] <mongo> nfs4 nis support is minimal
[08:14] <Zeising> mongo: that krb stuff might be interesting, since we have krb for authentication and nis for authorization.
[08:15] <mongo> anon: I think relatime is now the default
[08:15] <anon> mongo, what do you mean?
[08:15] <action09> tsimpson ok as i understand i'll not need to modify "/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts" , I'll be notified in July auto-magically ?
[08:15] <mongo> anon: atime is eats up a lot of iops, now the kernel only updates the atime if it is older than the mtime
[08:15] <Zeising> mongo: it would still be interesting to see which version is the default on 10.04. How can I chech that, just runing mount does not say anything about nfs options, as opposed to 12.04 where you can specify vers=[3,4]
[08:16] <anon> mongo, then how could I find all files and dirs that were accessed during the last 120 mins?
[08:16] <mongo> Zeising: I can't remember :)
[08:16] <tsimpson> action09: yes, you should be automatically notified when the upgrade is available
[08:16] <Zeising> mongo: damn :)
[08:16] <mongo> anon: you could use the "atime" option in mounts
[08:16] <kostasm> agronholm: I did an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and I lost X due to my nvidia. Next, I switched to command line and did do-release-update+upgrade to 12.04.
[08:17] <agronholm> that happened to me (with nvidia) too
[08:17] <anon> mongo, I need to find who accessed files this morning. I left my computer unprotected (without screensaver).
[08:17] <action09> tsimpson stefg Zeising  thanks for your answers   ^^  !!
[08:17] <action09> anon aie :(
[08:17] <kostasm> agronholm: ... still loosing my X. Then fixed my nvidia drivers and I am fine. No other problems with upgrade.
[08:18] <anon> mongo, Specifically I need to find out what directories were opened. HOw can I accomplish that?
[08:18] <Zeising> I have to check on the idmapper i solaris (nfsmapid it's called here), and see if that's the culprit. It has to wait untill I have physical access to that box though. I don't want to kill it and not being able to bring it up fast :)
[08:18] <mongo> anon: well if you left it unlocked it would be your account
[08:18] <anon> mongo, yes but what time?
[08:18] <mongo> anon: like I said, by defaut they dont' track that anymore
[08:18] <action09> anon my co-workers made a speciality on this kind of activity... guest, accounts, hacks, teensy devices, usb, firewire, bluetooth..  It's total war    :/
[08:18] <mongo> if the modify time is older than the access time they don't update access time anymore
[08:19] <mongo> anon: make ctl-alt-L a normal step of standing up then :)
[08:20] <shredding> hey folks
[08:21] <shredding> is there a good alternative for jDownloader?
[08:21] <anon> mongo, my screensaver always starts automatically after 2 minutes but I did the upgrade to 12.04 last night and this morning the screen was unlocked. I had locked it when I went to bed. Some people were in the room. I want to find out if they accessed the file system.
[08:21] <shredding> The unity integration does not work and I have to start via command line and there are some other flaws.
[08:21] <anon> Is there any log file that shows when was the first user activity this morning?
[08:21] <mongo> nope
[08:22] <tsar> hey guys
[08:22] <mongo> if they are smart they would clear the logs anyway
[08:23] <anon> mongo, thy are not smart at all. Normal linux users that only do surfing, email, checking but they know how to start nautilus.
[08:23] <tsar> i have a problem in ubuntu 12.04 and i need your help
[08:23] <anon> Can I use stat on a directory?
[08:24] <shredding> anon: did you check var/log/wtmp?
[08:24] <Zeising> mongo: I don't think nfsv4 is the problem though, because it works fine from a debian machine...
[08:24] <mongo> anon: atime is one of the most wasteful activities unix ever did, they are not tracking it on purpose anymore
[08:24] <anon> shredding, no, what info is usually in that file?
[08:25] <hampsterblade> I have 2 monitors set in twinview.  I have a program I want to make sure opens on DFP-0,  is there a command I can add to a shortcut to make this happ=en?
[08:25] <shredding> login tries and last logins
[08:25] <mongo> Zeising: are you sure you are not being mapped to nobody on the solaris side?
[08:25] <stefg> !ask | tsar
[08:25] <intore> hi, am configuring pam_mount to mount home directories on the client from the server samba-ldap. I fear to make mistakes. Someone knows this subject and could fllow me please?
[08:25] <mongo> shredding: he left the screen unlocked, there is not an auth attempt on an unsecured fb
[08:26] <Zeising> mongo: not 100%, but it works on 10.04, it works on debian squeeze...
[08:26] <xfvrpm> bonjour
[08:26] <tsar> when i tried to open ubuntu with cinnamon interface it doesnt work , all what i see is ubuntu 10.10 interface
[08:26] <anon> shredding, only unreadable junk in that file
[08:26] <mongo> Zeising: try it on 12.04 with vers=3
[08:26] <Zeising> that works
[08:26] <shredding> mongo: ok i did not know that
[08:26] <shredding> Had just read the last lines and added my 2 cent
[08:26] <Zeising> mongo: But it's strange how v4 works on some machines, and not on some.
[08:26] <ghabit> hello. Is Inotify enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[08:26] <tsimpson> anon: the command "last" is used to read wtmp
[08:26] <stefg> intore: i'm not able to answer your question, but i might state that #ubuntu-server is severely underused
[08:27] <Zeising> mongo: unless I have to enable something server-side for each client.
[08:27] <mongo> Zeising: they probably are broken v4, and not passing auth
[08:27] <mongo> Zeising: I think debian doesn't do acl
[08:27] <shredding> anon: you can access it with the lastlog command, but as mongo said, it's not of interested here
[08:27] <Zeising> can I kill acl and still use v4 with some mount option?
[08:27] <tsar> stefg r u seen my question
[08:28] <intore> stefg, server is debian squeeze, am configuring ubuntu clients. do you think will be ok that channel?
[08:28] <mongo> Zeising: if you kill acl and are using nis you may as well just use v3
[08:28] <Zeising> mongo: ok..
[08:28] <fahmyboy> Any Jedi Masters available to answer a question
[08:29] <mongo> Zeising: ldap/krb5 is highly recomended and works well though
[08:30] <Zeising> mongo: I don't want to switch to ldap without some serious preparation. It would be nice, but that's a project on itself :)
[08:30] <stefg> intore: you'll find out :-) The reason i suggest #ubuntu server is that i feel that more complex and server related discussions should go there.  ATM #ubuntu-server is pretty idle
[08:31] <Zeising> mongo: the little + after the permissions in ls -la indicates extended acls, right?
[08:31] <intore> stefg, ok thanks
[08:31] <fahmyboy> anyone know why sound quality is so bad in skype for ubuntu?
[08:32] <ghabit> fahmyboy, it's because my logitech c910 cam gives so bad quality. :) Welcome to linux world.
[08:32] <agronholm> crap, PXE boot isn't working
[08:32] <agronholm> it's not even TRYING to get a dhcp lease
[08:33] <tsar> anyone can solve my problem
[08:33] <stefg> tsar: so you are on ubuntu 10.10 and installed cinnamon, right?
[08:33] <agronholm> tsar, you haven't described it yet, how could we solve it?
[08:33] <agronholm> ah, nvm
[08:34] <mongo> Zeising: yes
[08:34] <Zeising> ok
[08:34] <fahmyboy> but the same hardware was fine for windows
[08:34] <tsar> stefg in ubuntu 12.04
[08:34] <agronholm> "Boot Failed. PXE Network"
[08:34] <Zeising> mongo: because 10.04 has that one. Seems someone broke something along the way...
[08:34] <agronholm> what could I be doing wrong?
[08:34] <fahmyboy> is it that the drivers are bad
[08:34] <agronholm> I get this right off the bat when I hit enter
[08:35] <stefg> tsar: then you probaly have not chosen the right session type at the login screen
[08:35] <tsar> stefg and i tried another interfaces its same thing
[08:35] <tsar> stefg how ?
[08:37]  * stefg is trying to find lightdm docu
[08:37] <agronholm> this is hopeless
[08:38] <klacker> whats hopeless
[08:38] <agronholm> I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.04 installed
[08:38] <agronholm> but nothing works
[08:38] <agronholm> installed remotely that is
[08:38] <scarleo> agronholm, If nothing works you need to start by checking your hardware
[08:38] <agronholm> this goddamn server isn't even TRYING to PXE boot...just says it "fails" right off the bat
[08:39] <agronholm> and how would I do that?
[08:39] <scarleo> agronholm, It's a rewuirement to have working hardware to be able to install
[08:39] <scarleo> requirement*
[08:39] <agronholm> I'm well aware of that
[08:39] <agronholm> I already have ubuntu 10.04 installed and working
[08:39] <agronholm> not a single problem
[08:40] <agronholm> been running for a few years now
[08:40] <scarleo> agronholm, Ok, so something works then, right?
[08:40] <fl1bbl3> why are you trying to PXE boot?
[08:40] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Like I said earlier, using the minimal (aka netboot) iso (as a normal CD, no PXE or other setup required) will probably solve the problem you're having (though I'm still waiting on that error message to confirm that the problem you're having is what I think it is).
[08:40] <hampsterblade> how can I control which monitor a program is launched on in twinview.
[08:40] <agronholm> Jordan_U: you must have missed it
[08:40] <agronholm> I did tell you
[08:41] <Zeising> mongo: next question... How do I tell it to use nfs v3 when autofs gets stuff from a nis map?
[08:41] <agronholm> fl1bbl3: I'm trying to PXE boot because installing over virtual cdrom isn't working
[08:41] <agronholm> I'll see if the netboot iso runs
[08:42] <Jordan_U> agronholm: You said "now it stalled at manpages-dev_3.35-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb" does that mean it froze? What happened next? Did you ever actually see an error message?
[08:42] <nicl> Hey all. If I want to remove a program that I installed manually (not using a package manager), to uninstall it, there is no mechanism right? I just delete the files ?
[08:43] <nicl> it's emacs 24 - seems to have broken after upgrading to newest ubuntu, so was just going to re-install
[08:43] <agronholm> Jordan_U: it claimed there was an integrity error
[08:43] <agronholm> and stopped there
[08:43] <agronholm> but I verified the sha1sum of the image and it matches
[08:44] <maca> Someone use Guarddog, a firewall software??
[08:44] <Jordan_U> nicl: You should avoid installing programs outside the package manager. If it was a normal source tree then you should be able to cd to the directory containing the source and "make uninstall" or "sudo make uninstall" (depending on whether you originally ran "make install" or "sudo make install").
[08:45] <stefg> nicl: right... if you used configure/make/make install you might be able to use 'make uninstall' in some cases
[08:45] <nicl> Jordan_U: yep, I realise that is generally true. But some programs aren't available in an up to date form via a package manager. Thanks  - I will try make uninstall!
[08:45] <agronholm> Jordan_U: does that give you the information you needed or do you need more?
[08:46] <|MUSE|> does anyone know how to set guake to use audible bells, or just what file handles the settings in the terminal it uses? Or if you can use another terminal emulator?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Were other files verified as good before that? Normally I would attribute such an error to a faulty CDROM drive, though that doesn't quite make sense in this instance obviously.
[08:46] <agronholm> I could've sworn I typed the actual message here but I guess that never happened
[08:46] <agronholm> Jordan_U: yes, several other files were verified
[08:46] <agronholm> at least it passed by those files
[08:46] <share> can you read disqus comments? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/bbc-feature-ubuntu/
[08:47] <share> ?
[08:47] <nicl> stefg: thanks btw. Seems to have worked :)
[08:48] <stefg> nicl: and next time you're going to use /at least) checkinstall ....
[08:48] <stefg> !info checkinstall
[08:48] <carpediembaby> hi, i was trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but the setup keeps crashing at the timezone selection screen.. are their any known solutions?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> agronholm: That means that the kernel could actually access the "Drive", but it still had read errors / corruption. That's very odd. The minimal iso will probably still work, by virtue of there being very few files and all of them loaded through BIOS calls (which should handle the virtual CDROM drive properly) but it still doesn't quite make sense to me how this could be happening.
[08:49] <agronholm> I'm attempting to boot that mini.iso now
[08:50] <agronholm> Jordan_U: no dice
[08:50] <agronholm> Boot Failed. CD/DVD Rom
[08:50] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Can you try doing an md5sum check of the Virtual CD while booted from your existing Ubuntu 10.04 system?
[08:50] <nicl> stefg: just had a look online, and looks like a nice way to track files associated with a program
[08:50] <nicl> stefg: thanks
[08:51] <agronholm> Jordan_U: you must understand that this error message appears *before* even the 3rd party device ROMs have initialized
[08:51] <agronholm> so it hasn't even started to load the boot loader
[08:51] <agronholm> I have no idea what it's doing there
[08:52] <agronholm> but I can even boot the windows xp install cd successfully
[08:52] <powergiant> Hey guys. After putting a ATI readon graphics card in my computer, ubuntu won't detect the onboard soundcard. In alsamixer I only have "s/pdif", and when using "aplay -l | grep card", only the hdmi output shows up.- Any ideas ?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> agronholm: I understand that that's what's happening with the most recent error, and it is indeed baffling. It leads me to suspect more strongly that this is a bug in your hardware/firmware/configuration somehow even though it does appear in some ways to be specific to certain Ubuntu versions.
[08:54] <agronholm> could it be that it's trying to load some EFI boot file from the CD?
[08:54] <agronholm> I'm grasping at straws here...
[08:54] <hbccbh1> hi everyone
[08:54] <Jordan_U> agronholm: It could indeed, newer versions of Ubuntu do contain a [U]EFI bootloader.
[08:54] <hbccbh1> I want to install ubuntu 11.10 via a usb stick
[08:54] <hbccbh1> but when I boot it up
[08:55] <hbccbh1> it showed me that: initramfs unpacking failed XZ-compressed data is corrupted
[08:55] <agronholm> Jordan_U: if that's true, then I couldn't even install it from a real cd
[08:55] <hbccbh1> any suggestions?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> agronholm: That wouldn't quite explain the "booting but some files seem corrupted" symptom, but could explain the "Not even getting to the bootloader" ones. Thankfully there are iso images without any [U]EFI loaders for dealing with buggy firmware.
[08:56] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Redo the usb. It sounds like there something wrong with the disk image on the usb.
[08:56] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I haven't found them yet
[08:56] <hbccbh1> powergiant: I have try serval times
[08:56] <hbccbh1> the same with fedora, archlinux xubuntu's image
[08:57] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Have you tried an different usb ?
[08:57] <hbccbh1> yes, I have tried liveCD too :(
[08:58] <hbccbh1> powergiant: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=138668 my situations like it
[08:58] <agronholm> I suspect the cd-rom read error is related to the legacy mode, since I've never used it before
[08:58] <Jordan_U> agronholm: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ anything containing "+mac".
[08:59] <powergiant> hbccbh1, Well then I don't know. Can anything boot on the computer?
[08:59] <agronholm> Jordan_U: I don't see server images there
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> agronholm: could instal minimal
[09:00] <agronholm> I can try booting from such an image to see if it works
[09:00] <agronholm> it would at least validate the EFI theory
[09:01] <agronholm> ahhh
[09:01] <agronholm> found the server image
[09:02] <agronholm> it was in a different location
[09:02] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Out of curiosity, where?
[09:02] <agronholm> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current
[09:03] <agronholm> precise-server-amd64+mac.iso
[09:03] <ilija> i need help about my lubuntu i ask there because in lubuntu chanel i nobody
[09:03] <ilija> my problme is
[09:03] <ilija> Ssession: warning: unable to write to /tmp: X session may exit with an errpr"
[09:04] <hbccbh> powergiant: sorry for losing connection
[09:05] <gvo> ilija: ls -ld /tmp
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> ilija: http://linuxeducacional.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=312
[09:07] <ilija> that message appears on login i i cannot login, then i use alt+ctrl+f2 and login i enter update-alternatives --config x-session-manager i then i use ctrl+alt+f7 an then login but there is messege from last post
[09:07] <ilija> drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 2012-05-05 11:06 /tmp
[09:07] <ilija> that si output of ls -ln /tmp
[09:07] <ilija> i i cannot start google-chrome
[09:07] <ilija> or any other browser
[09:07] <gvo> ilija: see ActionParsnip's link
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ilija: try the commands in the link I gave. Also run:  sudo apt-get clean
[09:08] <ilija> gvo: i said i cannot acces internet
[09:09] <gvo> OK IRC is working though?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ilija: how are you irc-ing?
 you can use Firefox or Lynx
[09:10] <ilija> for apt-get clean is no output i just enter my pass i nothing is hapening
[09:10] <ilija> is that normal
[09:10] <Jordan_U> agronholm: I need to get some sleep, but I'm curious about this so if you don't mind please keep me up do date on what you discover.
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ilija: yes, in Lnux, no news is good news.
[09:10] <agronholm> Jordan_U: sure
[09:10] <agronholm> about to boot from the +mac iso
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ilija: you don't get an 'ok' after every command, its redundant
[09:10] <Jordan_U> agronholm: Thanks.
[09:11] <ilija> ok and what now
[09:11] <ilija> can i now try to restart my pc i try login
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> ilija: sudo touch /var/log/kern.log; sudo touch /var/log/syslog
[09:12] <carpediembaby> is this a good channel for asking questions about 12.04 ? or should i go to ubuntu+1
[09:12] <agronholm> ubuntu+1 is for the unreleased version of ubuntu
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: precise is supported here now, as it is released
[09:13] <agronholm> gah, I discovered why PXE boot wasn't working
[09:13] <agronholm> it needs to be enabled separately for each NIC
[09:13] <liu> why
[09:13] <ilija> ActionParsnip: i trier yout 2 commands i output is nothing
[09:14] <ilija> is that ok
[09:14] <carpediembaby> ok. so i cannot install 12.04 using the iso i downloaded. it crashes at the timezone selection screen and there seems to be no recovery from that. i looked on the internet and someone suggested a text based installer (from a source i don't know about) but i wanted to ask for a better solution first
[09:15] <agronholm> Jordan_U: successfully booted from the precise+mac iso
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ilija: yes, AGAIN, no news is good news, you don't get an OK after each command, its redundant
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ilija: unless you get an output, assume the command succeeded
[09:15] <foolsh> carpediembaby: Personally I always use the alternate installer It just fells fast to me
 waiting is the best solution. Ubuntu 12.04 is not ready yet
[09:15] <carpediembaby> i had previously updated to 12.04 beta on a working 11.10 install but it didn't quite work.. so now i'm trying a new install
 there is so many bugs
[09:16] <ilija> ok thank you
[09:16] <casper001> i found one bug
[09:16] <carpediembaby> zeal18: i feel the same way. though why release it if its not?
[09:16] <ilija> i am going to try restart and i will come again to say results
[09:17] <foolsh> zeal18: some has to test it first
[09:17] <foolsh> someone*
 it's shedule
[09:17] <carpediembaby> foolsh: how do i use the alternate installer?
[09:18] <zeal18> I think, Ubuntu mast release when it ready to release but not at April and October
[09:18] <foolsh> carpediembaby: its all text menu driven pretty self explanatory
[09:19] <carpediembaby> foolsh: not for the basics! if the installer doesn't work, that's really sad..
[09:19] <ilija> hy guys i am here again i i have to say thank you my problem i solver
[09:19] <ilija> thank you very much
[09:20] <ilija> thanks for ActionParsnip
[09:20] <foolsh> carpediembaby: only hang ups are done auto detect thekeyboard if you use a US version and do some research about partitioning your harddrive for linux and you'll do fine.
[09:20] <carpediembaby> foolsh: i meant how do i get the text based installer ? i boot using the usb and it gives me options to either start from the disk or start install
[09:20] <ilija> and gvo
[09:20] <ilija> and others
 it's really sad that local-settings-manager crashes at changing system language
[09:21] <foolsh> carpediembaby: ohh its a separate download
[09:21] <carpediembaby> i think i should really just download 11.04
 you cat choise alternative dovnload links on ubuntu.com
[09:21] <zeal18> *can
[09:22] <foolsh> carpediembaby: 11.04 is my personal favourite I would stuck with that
[09:22] <zeal18> sorry for my grammar((
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: Natty is EOL in October (just an FYI)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: if you want a text installer, use the alternate ISO
[09:25] <agronholm> Jordan_U: update -- even though I could boot, the integrity check stalled again and eventually failed
[09:25] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: even 11.04?! :/ that should be 5 year support.. no?
[09:25] <agronholm> only LTS releases get 5 years of support
[09:25] <agronholm> interims get what, 2 years?
[09:25] <casper001> or 3 years?
[09:26] <agronholm> maybe 3
[09:26] <linuxius> hi! how can I change the font size in Evolution (calendar)? When I print I can hardly see the appointments...
[09:27] <d0gmaz> how can i see wich video driver im using on 12.04lts?
[09:27] <agronholm> ActionParsnip: there's no way a distro released just last year would expire this October
[09:27] <agronholm> right?
[09:27] <mi3> agronholm, wrong, ubuntu 11.04 will expire this october
[09:27] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: lspci -v  under your card listing look for kernel module:
[09:28] <Ben64> Natty = 11.04 = 2011/04 = last year
[09:28] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: or driver in use
[09:28] <mi3> normal releases receive updates upto 18 months, agronholm
[09:28] <agronholm> my bad then
[09:28] <mi3> np
[09:28] <d0gmaz> bastidrazor: thxx
[09:28] <casper001> who is still using 9.04 lts?
[09:29] <mi3> casper001, 9.04 is not an LTS version
[09:29] <casper001> lol
[09:29] <bastidrazor> d0gmaz: you're welcome.
[09:29] <casper001> so, the first one lts version is 10.04?
[09:29] <blade> hi ubuntu
[09:29] <Ben64> 8.04 was lts
[09:29] <casper001> s/one//
[09:29] <d0gmaz> bastidrazor: i use the opensource radeon driver, wich has vertical sync on can i turn it off?
[09:29] <blade> hi everyone
[09:30] <mi3> !crunchbang
[09:30] <Ben64> 6.06 was lts too
[09:31] <blade> can anyone tell how to be part of the ubuntu
[09:31] <carpediembaby> are xubuntu and kubuntu as well supported as ubuntu?
[09:31] <blade> how can i officially join ubuntu
[09:31] <mi3> blade, there is actually no way to join ubuntu, since the os is free
[09:32] <agronholm> blade, what does that even mean?
[09:32] <blade> sorry
[09:32] <blade> i mean
[09:32] <glosoli> blade: use it spread it
[09:32] <blade> like joinning Ubuntu officially by submitting bugs
[09:32] <blade> and all
[09:32] <blade> where can i do that
[09:32] <glosoli> blade: you just need Launchpad account and Ubuntu
[09:32] <glosoli> :)
[09:32] <blade> what is launchpad
[09:33] <glosoli> !bug blade
[09:33] <glosoli> hmm there commands not working here
[09:33] <glosoli> ;D
[09:33] <blade> ok
[09:33] <mi3> blade, once you use ubuntu, you are a part of its community, now, using launchpad is a different thing ok
[09:33] <glosoli> blade: you can read more about it in launchpad dot net
[09:33] <blade> cool
[09:34] <Ben64> !bug | blade, glosoli
[09:34] <mi3> blade, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchpad_%28website%29
[09:34] <glosoli> blade: check you ubottu msg it's all you need
[09:34] <glosoli> check out"
[09:35] <blade> coool
[09:35] <mi3> hmm
[09:35] <mi3> maybe someone has not introduced you to ubuntu, let me do that, blade
[09:35] <mi3> !
[09:35] <alankila> launchpad is one of the more frustrating websites in that it's always down when I try to use it. Which is usually after a release and I look for some bug descriptions, or might even want to report a bug
[09:36] <blade> so i wonder what is Bug Squad for
[09:36] <alankila> sometimes it says something funny like "launchapd crashed trying to handle the action, and crashed again as we tried to automatically report a bug about launchpad's crash". yay.
[09:36] <glosoli> alankila: never happened to me
[09:37] <carpediembaby> is interface the only major difference between (u,xu,ku)buntu's ?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: default apps and default desktop environment
[09:38] <alankila> glosoli: lucky for you. I experienced launchpad being down 1 or 2 days after 12.04's release, although it's certainly up more nowadays than it used to be
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> alankila: I'm on there DAILY and never had an issue except a few timeouts which resolve when I press F5
[09:39] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: but everything else works more or less the same way? there are not packages which would work on ubuntu and not on kubuntu, for example?
[09:39] <glosoli> I been using Laundchpad actively from the first Dev Release of Precise Pangolin hmm, strange
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: the underlying OS (drivers, services etc are identical)
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: depends if you like KDE apps or Gnome apps etc)
[09:40] <alankila> ActionParsnip: interesting. Anyway, most of my bad experience comes from years ago.
[09:40] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: hmm.. so if i wanted to try kubuntu, i should try 11.04 as well? since 12.04 will have similar problems
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: what is the issue?
[09:42] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: well quite a few .. i had updated 11.1 to 12.04 and it started giving me package errors which never downloaded even after updating sources lists and everything ..
[09:42] <carpediembaby> then i tried installing 12.04 afresh and the installer didn't work
[09:43] <rob> join #ubuntu-rorums
[09:43] <carpediembaby> ActionParsnip: and now i'm thinking of giving kde interface a try after using ubuntu for quite some time .. and i don't really like where the ui is going with ubuntu
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: there are lots of DEs and WMs to try :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> carpediembaby: you can also install gnome-shell which is the default shell for Gnome
[09:46] <vincentr> glad to come here for the 1st time :P
[09:49] <demon> есть руссаки
[09:50] <jpds> !ru | demon
[09:55] <ali> hi , I want to use my windows vpn on ubuntu 12.04 how do I do it
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[09:56] <ali> thanks
[09:58] <icat> hey all .. i've been getting constant segafaults of Xorg in libc-2.15.so ever since the upgrade to 12.04 ... how can i start investigating this?
[09:59] <beeju> I am on 11.04.How to activate  splash screen works? I did all the  tweaks through "start up manager" and "gnome-splash screen", but nothing works.
[10:00] <beeju> I am on 11.04.How to activate  splash screen works? I did all the  tweaks through "start up manager" and "gnome-splash screen", but nothing works.I get a broken screen after the boot loader.
[10:00] <mbroeker> beeju, what gpu do you have?
[10:01] <john1000> hello,i installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and boot on 40 sec,is normaly?
[10:01] <casper001> 40 secs?
[10:01] <beeju> mbroeker, gpu?
[10:01] <mbroeker> beeju, graphics card
[10:01] <john1000> yes
[10:01] <casper001> mine is about 10 seconds
[10:01] <beeju> mbroeker, Nvidia
[10:01] <john1000> intel quad core + nvidia 9800 GT
[10:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[10:02]  * casper001 shows john1000 a dozen of dan fast pendrives
[10:02] <mbroeker> beeju, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf and comment out vesafb (like this: #blacklist vesafb)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> john1000: run:  dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the values on the left, use cursors to scroll dow
[10:03] <john1000> k
[10:03] <shape> Hello, I submitted this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/993245 And I am wondering, what happens next? Am I free to reinstall my system and see if it persists? Would that be counterproductive to solving the bug?
[10:03] <mbroeker> beeju, after that, edit /etc/default/grub and add vga=792 to the boot options. update-grub and reboot
[10:04] <beeju> mbroeker, can u pls describe what "comment out" means
[10:05] <mbroeker> beeju, the line looks now: blacklist vesafb
[10:05] <mbroeker> beeju, and you have to put a # infront of the line: results in #blacklist vesafb
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> beeju: add a hash to the left of the text, it will be seen as a comment and will be ignored
[10:06] <alankila> shape: you can probably adjust the harddisk sleep period to be longer than the average period between accesses if you worry about it.
[10:06] <alankila> shape: see the hdparm package, and option called -S, configurable in /etc/hdparm.conf iirc
[10:06] <shape> alankila: it's turned off. No sleep
[10:06] <beeju> ActionParsnip, & mbroeker ..thanx..let me do
[10:06] <alankila> shape: really, you have disabled the standby timer?  Let me check the hdparm thing
[10:08] <cerales> Can anyone give me any tips about installing a different kernel? Do I just need to acquire a binary orcompile it and somehow point my GRUB to it?
[10:08] <shape> alankila, My question was more directed to what was the next step in the bug report thing.
[10:08] <alankila> shape: I'm pretty sure you'll find some hdparm -S250 like setting that will keep the drive running (if you are worried about the on-off thing, although these drives are ostensibly designed for this)
[10:08] <mbroeker> cerales, sudo update-grub will find the new kernel images when the files are properly installed
[10:09] <cerales> oh ok - so i just need to put the kernel files in the right location?
[10:09] <mbroeker> cerales, yes
[10:09] <alankila> alternatively you can try to arrange the filesystem flush period to be so long that the drives can spend significant periods asleep. I once had a linux box with very noisy ball-bearing harddrive set up in a way that often allowed HD to sleep for days (it was just a router).
[10:09] <shape> alankila, -s: bad/missing powerup-in-standby value (0..1)
[10:09] <alankila> -S
[10:09] <cerales> mbroeker: great, thanks.
[10:10] <shape> alankila, -S: bad/missing standby-interval value (0..255)
[10:10] <alankila> yes. So you select a value that you think fits you.
[10:10] <airtonix> any tips for html5 videos having their YUV mixed up ?
[10:10] <shape> alankila, What is the default?
[10:10] <bcuraboy> how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up...
[10:10] <shape> or how can i check the default
[10:10] <alankila> *shrug* I don't know
[10:10]  * alankila is all SSD
[10:11] <alankila> if hdparm -S does not print the current value, maybe it's the sort of thing that can't be found out
[10:11] <john1000> d'not find large gaps on this command
[10:12] <airtonix> bcuraboy: nautilus : edit > preferences > preview > [Other Previewable Files] : show thumbnails : always, only for files smaller than : <some massive number>
[10:12] <shape> alankila ok I'll see if it does it again. monitoring now
[10:12] <shape> alankila, I set it do 255
[10:12] <shape> does the same thing
[10:13] <alankila> okay. I guess the drive firmware just ignores the -S setting then.
[10:13] <Deamosreapos> Hello,
[10:13] <alankila> you can try play with -B next, that's the advanced power management setting, 1 is most power-saving, and 255 should get rid of power-saving entirely
[10:13] <alankila> no idea what the values in between mean
[10:14] <shape> alankila, but regarding the bug report, what will happen next?
[10:14] <alankila> hdparm manual page says that values between 128 to 254 does not prevent spin-down, so maybe -B128 for you?
[10:14] <Deamosreapos> Im looking for some support regarding 12.4, where im running into a purple screen of death once I connect my TV asswell as my monitor to my machine
[10:15] <Deamosreapos> This occurs only at booting and its quite annoying cause I sometimes forget to unplug one of the cables so thats not a solution
[10:15] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin
[10:15] <mbroeker> !paste
[10:16] <alankila> shape: I don't know. I actually only just now read what has been written. I admit that desktop system complicates the matter, as there's probably some daemons that maybe use hdparm itself to manage these settings as you switch between the outlet power and not.
[10:16] <alankila> My experience with hdparm comes mostly from server-like use cases.
[10:16] <Deamosreapos> Mbroeker you happen to know is I can acces my partition from windows? (where Im at now?)
[10:16] <shape> alankila, nono, I am doing this for the laptop. The desktop works fine.
[10:17] <shape> alankila, the bug is only for the laptop
[10:17] <alankila> I mean desktop install of ubuntu actually
[10:17] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, a std install uses ext4 filesystem and you have to google for a explorer extension for ext4. it is possible, yes :)
[10:17] <alankila> on server it's pretty sure that nobody tries to manage these things for you, if you don't set them, you go with whatever the whole system chose as defaults, maybe at BIOS level.
[10:18] <shape> alankila btw I tried B128 and B127
[10:18] <shape> and the same happens
[10:18] <alankila> but anyway, if hdparm -B and -S together do not stop drive spin-down cycle, then it's possible that for your particular use case nothing will help
[10:18] <alankila> I imagine your drive firmware has simply does not care what you try to program it to do
[10:19] <shape> alankila but it didnt do this in 11.10
[10:19] <alankila> the only option left is, probably, to lengthen the filesystem dirty buffer flush periods
[10:19] <alankila> shape: hmm... what's the status of the laptop-mode package?
[10:20] <alankila> or maybe it's called laptop-mode-tools
[10:20] <shape> alankila, it's not installed. not compatible with kernel 3 or something like that was the error
[10:20] <alankila> Oh.
[10:20] <alankila> and contents of /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode say?
[10:21] <shape> alankila one sec
[10:21] <Ninored> hello
[10:21] <Deamosreapos> mbroeker:
[10:21] <Deamosreapos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/968769/
[10:21] <crazyage> hello
[10:21] <shape> alankila 5
[10:22] <Ninored> have you got a writer editor saim at microsoft world (no open office )?
[10:22] <bcuraboy> how can i set nautilus to load thumbnails?reason: in chrome when i want to upload a photo to a social network,the preview of the file doesn't show up...
[10:22] <alankila> shape: okay, I imagine the nonzero value means that laptop_mode is enabled.
[10:22] <shape> alankila, yeah probably. I mean it knows Im running on a laptop since power management tells me batt, on AC, etc.
[10:23] <shape> alankila, and spin down HDD is all set to off. and this happens in only 12.04
[10:23] <alankila> shape: you can try, for now, to write a value like 30000 into /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs
[10:23] <bcuraboy> there's no nautilus elementary for ubuntu 12.04?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: if you can find a ppa, yes
[10:25] <shredding> I've curlftpfs'd a remote server into my vfs. It worked but the folder now belongs to root / root.
[10:25] <shredding> sudo chmod -Rc chris:chris myfolder says: "Ungültiger Modus chris:chris"
[10:25] <beeju> mbroeker, about splash screen, I followed what u said, not it shows two broken image at bottom and top
[10:25] <mbroeker> Deamosreapos, you are using the proprietary nvidia driver and you have to disable modeset and the nouveau driver. i am not sure why it is not disabled: how do you have installed the nvidia driver? via repos or from website?
[10:25] <shredding> (Ungültiger Modus ~= invalid mode)
[10:25] <shredding> whats wrong?
[10:26] <beeju> mbroeker, about splash screen, I followed what u said, now it shows two broken image at bottom and top
[10:26] <mbroeker> beeju, changed /etc/default/grub too?
[10:26] <beeju> mbroeker, yeah
[10:26] <shredding> chris is my name
[10:26] <Deamosreapos> mbroeker, I plain installed then when the OS asked me if I wanted to install the other drivers I did so since I couldnt connect to my TV without that
[10:26] <Deamosreapos> atleast so I thought
[10:27] <beeju> mbroeker, whats this vga 792 means? resolution?
[10:27] <mbroeker> beeju, 1024x768 24/32 bit
[10:27] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:28] <beeju> mbroeker, ok, thats the resolution shows in start up manager
[10:28] <mbroeker> beeju, just a test: shut the system down: if the splash works while rebooting, it's only a simple tweak
[10:28] <shredding> Ok, my fault.
[10:28] <shredding> it's chown
[10:28] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:28] <shredding> however, i can't change the owner of the remote folder and hence can only access it with root.
[10:29] <shredding> How can I change that?
[10:29] <cagoccione> Hi. I'm setting up a Lubuntu desktop for school PCs. I need to "block" the screen, to make sure that desktop icons remain in their position so that the user can't move them.
[10:29] <cagoccione> To avoid the deletion of them I removed write permissions.... Now I need this ^^^
[10:29] <shredding> I can't even access it with sudo cd myFolder
[10:29] <shredding> sudo: cd: command not found
[10:29] <shredding> I don't get it.
[10:30] <StevenR> cd is a builtin
[10:30] <StevenR> it's not a "real" command
[10:30] <StevenR> or rather, it's not an binary you can run, it's built into the shell
[10:30] <shredding> but how can i access the remote folder?
[10:31] <shredding> StevenR: sudo ls -l myFolder works, it shows me the content of the remote folder.
[10:31] <gaelfx> I'm trying to install from LiveUSB, and when it gets to downloading the software sources, it ignores the change I made to software sources in software center. I'm trying to select a better mirror for me, but the installer keeps using cn.ubuntu.archive (or whatever) and it's INCREDIBLY slow. Is there any way to make the installer respect my sources choice?
[10:31] <StevenR> shredding: what remote folder is this?
[10:31] <shredding> It's a server hosted on a2
[10:32] <shredding> a2hosting
[10:32] <shredding> a shared hosting server
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> gaelfx: I suggest not updating during install
[10:32] <StevenR> so... how are you accessing it? How have you connected the folder on your PC to the remote folder?
[10:32] <shredding> I can even sudo vim files via shell.
[10:32] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: When you use sudo, you cause the system to temporarily create a login shell as the root user. Then the root user changes directory. Then the root shell exits because there are no more commands, and you're back to your USER login. The cd only operates for the root user.
[10:32] <StevenR> shredding: yes, all of that will work because they're commands not built ins
[10:33] <gaelfx> ActionParsnip: yeah, but even just downloading the sources.list or whatever takes forever. it does that even when I choose not to download updates
[10:33] <shredding> curlftpfs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>~/mnt
[10:33] <shredding> I connected like this
[10:33] <shredding> without 'parentheses'
[10:33] <StevenR> IntuitiveNipple: nope. cd is a builtin. It's not a command that root can run.
[10:33] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: It sounds like your user account does NOT have permissions to the remote directory, which is why you need to use 'sudo'
[10:34] <shredding> Hm.
[10:34] <IntuitiveNipple> StevenR: sudo will start a log-in shell (usually /usr/bin/sh for root)
[10:34] <StevenR> shredding: can you specify user/group options to curlftpfs ?
[10:34] <shredding> I thought, once I entered the folder, I would act as the user on the shell.
[10:34] <shredding> As the user on the remote server i meant
[10:34] <StevenR> shredding: it's not a problem with the "remote" bit
[10:35] <IntuitiveNipple> shredding: If you did "sudo -i" to enter an interactive root session, THEN you could, then you'd use "exit" when finished to return to your USER account
[10:35] <StevenR> shredding: the permissions are being applied locally, but they affect your access to the remote folder
[10:35] <shredding> I can't specify any user/group options.
[10:35] <cagoccione> Hi. I'm setting up a Lubuntu desktop for school PCs. I need to "block" the screen, to make sure that desktop icons remain in their position so that the user can't move them.
[10:35] <cagoccione> To avoid the deletion of them I removed write permissions.... Now I need this ^^^
[10:36] <shredding> It says 'Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt' which means operation is permitted.
[10:36] <StevenR> shredding: can you run the command as your user? i.e. don't run curlftpfs with sudo ?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: you could mark the ~/Desktop folder as read only to the owner
[10:36] <shredding> i try this.
[10:37] <shredding> StevenR: That did the trick.
[10:37] <shredding> Who.
[10:37] <shredding> Who-oo I meant.
[10:37] <StevenR> shredding: look at the manpage, specifically, the -o uid, gid and allow_other options ?
[10:37] <shredding> Thank you very much!
[10:37] <StevenR> no problem :)
[10:38] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: I already did that. That avoids the deletion of files, but they still can be "moved"
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: ahhh, hmm not sure there. I know what you mean
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: let me see what's what
[10:39] <carpediembaby> hi. i was trying to install ubuntu (over an existing ubuntu install) but the installer crashed and now i don't have either windows OR ubuntu.. it wrote over GRUB and i get: error: "no such partition  grub rescue>"
[10:40] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: I need only to know in which file lxde put the icon position. It just needs a read-only permission and it's done
[10:40] <dhjrk> hi
[10:40] <cryzeck> I have a issue with adjusting backlight on my laptop with the fn keys, anyone know how to fix it?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cagoccione: asked in #lxde ?
[10:41] <carpediembaby> can someone help me recover from this mess?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: any chance of you tellng us the make and model of laptop?
[10:41] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, i guess somewhere in ~/.config :)
[10:41] <dhjrk> kde FOREVER)
[10:41] <cagoccione> ActionParsnip: yeah, they're all idlers
[10:41] <cryzeck> ActionParsnip: Lenovo t420s
[10:41] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: what in ~/.config?
[10:41] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:41] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:41] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, the config files for you desktop environment
[10:42] <cryzeck> It worked perfectly in 12.04, but not in 11.10, so there should be a way i hope
[10:42] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: how are they related to my problem? i don't have a desktop environment anymore .. :D i'm running from usb stick
[10:43] <stefg> cagoccione: I'm afraid you'd need a special desktop manager for a kiosk mode (unless i'm overlooking some conf-options in lxde)
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: try:  echo "mem" | sudo tee /sys/power/state
[10:43] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, sorry, sorry, i meant the other guy with a similar name :)
[10:44] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: np! i tought so
[10:44] <cagoccione> ok
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: seems you need to add the boot options: acpi_backlight=vendor acpi_osi=Linux
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T420
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: have you seen that page?
[10:44] <cryzeck> yes, i've tried
[10:44] <cryzeck> also the echo "mem" part, which just puts it in sleep
[10:44] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model:
[10:44] <sturubinuru> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:44] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> can i make an install usb while i am booted with a same usb on which i want to write?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: gotcha
[10:45] <mbroeker> carpediembaby, are you currently on the broken system via usb?
[10:45] <deamosreapos_> Mbrooker im now in my safe mode
[10:45] <carpediembaby> mbroeker: yes.
[10:45] <kx__> @caroediembaby Do you have windows installation media ?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> and i only have one usb stick
[10:45] <deamosreapos_> mbroeker sorry :) you said I had to disable drivers right?
[10:45] <carpediembaby> kx__: no, i don't have the windows install cd
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> cryzeck: try with just one of the extra boot options, make sure you have latest BIOS
[10:46] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, the nouveau driver and modeset for the proprietary nvidia driver, yes
[10:46] <deamosreapos_> How I do that? Or shall google be my guide?
[10:47] <kx__> carpediumbaby: can you try this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802
[10:47] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, the nvidia driver should set it automatically: option nouveau nomodeset blacklist nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia*
[10:47] <pungi-man> ActionParsnip, How to update BIOS?? I want to do it!
[10:47] <cryzeck> ActionParsnip: I will, thanks.
[10:48] <pungi-man> because it again loads defaults!!
[10:48] <bcuraboy> is there any way to set thumbnails to load in marlin?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pungi-man: depends on the hardware, i'd ask in ##hardware
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> !find marlin
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: marlin isn't supported here
[10:48] <sturubinuru> Hi :) This is my video-card model:
[10:48] <sturubinuru> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[10:48] <sturubinuru> My pc is really slow... which driver can I install?
[10:48] <sturubinuru> !ping
[10:49] <beeju> mbroeker, I got this pic after reboot( about splash screen) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2zxr0j4&s=6
[10:49] <deamosreapos_> Mbroeker so I now use the additional drivers program to reinstall the version current
[10:49] <deamosreapos_> so I should reboot now? and what else to do?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: what spec is your system..cpu? ram? gpu?
[10:50] <lnxslck> i've installed gnome 3 through software manager, it broke my system, no i've removed it, but in lightdm i'm still able to login to gnome
[10:50] <mbroeker> beeju, great splash: can i install it :XD?
[10:50] <lnxslck> how ca i remove all of gnome?
[10:50] <kx__> @carpediumbaby try the last post on the thread
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: which release are you using?
[10:50] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, 12.04
[10:50] <unkn-error> hello! The LowLatency dose it helps or not at photography? (using Darktable, Gimp,  RawTeraphee && photoshop emulated with wine
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: then it comes with Gnome3 by default
[10:50] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: Is that on a Dell Dimension?
[10:50] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i've added a ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[10:50] <unkn-error> I am refering to the kernel patch from ubuntustudio
[10:51] <beeju> mbroeker, its not joke..I followed u and nothing changed
[10:51] <mbroeker> !nvidia
[10:51] <carpediembaby> kx_: ok trying it out
[10:51] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, actually it only brought unity
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: why, precise comes with gnome3, why are you adding PPAs?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: Unity is a shell, 12.04 uses Gnome
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: Unity is not a replacement for Gnome
[10:51] <mbroeker> beeju, ok. sorry, i cannot help with your bootsplash problem
[10:51] <beeju> mbroeker, ok
[10:52] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip, IntuitiveNipple: It is an old compaq desktop pc. 256mb ram (16shared with vga)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: if you install ppa-purge you can remove the ppa and it should reinstall the official gnome3
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: I'd install Lubuntu, it will run faster
[10:52] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i removed the ppa from software center
[10:52] <lnxslck> is that ok?
[10:52] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip: I'm with Lubuntu! :D
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: that won't reinstall the originals, like ppa-purge does
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: and when did you tell us that....?
[10:53]  * casper001 minuses one for lubuntu
[10:53] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3   is that ok?
[10:53] <sturubinuru> ActionParsnip: right now!
[10:54] <nodestool> where are the completion "config" files stored for zsh ?
[10:54] <Janyk> Hello! I have an little question
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sturubinuru: yes but it would've been useful easrlier, is my point
[10:54] <sturubinuru> ok sorry
[10:54] <Janyk> How many RAM do you need for ubuntu
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: yes, but you may need to re-add it
[10:54] <bcuraboy> simple question-how can i have my music folder with the cd cover showing on each album??
[10:54] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: OK ... try this: Reboot the PC and enter the BIOS setup. Find the setting for "AGP Aperture" (possibly labelled as Video Memory) and if it has the options, increase it to 8MB or 16MB if those are available.
[10:54] <ThinkT510> !requirements | Janyk
[10:54] <mbroeker> deamosreapos_, edit /etc/default/grub and add nomodeset after quiet splash, update-grub and reboot. should fix it
[10:55] <nodestool> people are running debian on rassbery pi, i saw some videos on youtube Janyk
[10:55] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, PPA purged successfully :) i'll reboot this to see the efects
[10:55] <Janyk> !lubuntu
[10:55] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: READ THIS link which describes several successful steps for that chipset: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/intel-82845g-788563/page3.html#post4385831
[10:55] <Janyk> Thank you ubottu
[10:55] <Janyk> /part
[10:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Janyk: For a minimal non-GUI install, it's possible in 96MB although tight!
[10:56] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: uff I lost BIOS password. :( I already tried to remove the battery but it doesn't work... It addressed me to think there's a special memory to store it, or maybe a default password is present also with factory-settings :(
[10:56] <Zeising> what can be wrong if gnome-classic doesn't show the menu bar?
[10:57] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: No, you'll need to get into the BIOS settings. I'd *guess* there is a pair of CMOS RESET terminals on the motherboard. You might find them mentioned in the motherboard manual
[10:57] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, now, how can i be sure that i have the correct gnome for my ubuntu? the one tha comes by default?
[10:58] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: There are reset procedures for the Compaqa (I have a little deskpro sff here)
[10:58] <kasii> asking for recovery software which will restore external had drive from the start
[10:58] <carpediembaby> kx__: i tried the page.. i get stuck at the third line: chainloader +1
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: yes, ppa purge reinstalls the packages the ppa updated from the default repos
[10:59] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: what's yours?
[10:59] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: What's my what?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: why did you add the PPA anyway?
[10:59] <Somelauw> How to install gmplayer, I tried both sudo aptitude install gmplayer and mplayer-gui
[11:00] <sturubinuru> IntuitiveNipple: your procedure
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, it's a bit confused the gnome3 vs gnome-shell
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i wanted the real gnome 3, not the gnome-shell
[11:00] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: Oh, that's what they call it, thanks.
[11:00] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, so i read that in some site to add that ppa to get the full gnome 3
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: gnome-shell is just a shell for Gnome, so you have gnome3
[11:00] <LinuxMonkey> ive learned to not add PPA's as they are generally not supported and for the most part may break your system
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: you have the full gnome3
[11:01] <IntuitiveNipple> sturubinuru: Well, the compaq deskpro sff I have doesn't have a locked BIOS, but I read the manual for it and there is a hardware procedure to reset the BIOS. It can be found on the web by searching, too
[11:01] <Somelauw> Also, I installed mplayer-gui, but the ncurses interface of it won't open.
[11:01] <ThinkT510> LinuxMonkey: i so glad at least  one person has learned that
[11:01] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, if i type: apt-get install gnome-shell shouldn't it say that's already installed?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: if you have it, then yes. Default Ubuntu 12.04 comes with Unity
[11:02] <kasii> asking for recovery software which will restore external had drive from the start
[11:02] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: That's a shame. When PPAs started we used them to provide bug-fixed packages early for testing, or to release newer upstream packages. I think they're the victim of Ubuntu's success at reaching a non-technical audience
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> kasii: how do you mean restore it from the start?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> !ppa
[11:02] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, there's my confusion right there, i've installed ubuntu 12.04, and in lightdm i only had the option to use unity
[11:03] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, after this gnome mess i have now the option to use gnome also
[11:03] <LinuxMonkey> IntuitiveNipple: Yeah their not bad when their maintained but most just get depriciated fast
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: then install what you desire and log into the session
[11:03] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, and my grub theme changed from Ubuntu default to Debian :(
[11:03] <deamosreapos> mbroeker I installed the different driver, ubuntu booted normally, and I could plug in my HDMI and it would reconise my TV and I cloned the screens then I rebooted to check and  I got a nice purple screen once more :(
[11:03] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: True ... I just deleted about 60 packages out of my PPA that were overtaken by events
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: did you by any chanc have debian, then change your sources to ubuntu?
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, no
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, it was this gnome installation
[11:04] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, i haven't used debian in years
[11:04] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i mean to recover all of my data
[11:05] <solsTiCe> hi. where can I find the log of the installer ? it's been twice already that I try to install PP and the installer crashed at the same place. after not importing account. it just closed or disapear or crash. then seems to send something huge over the netwrok. a bug report ? downloading updates ?
[11:05] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i mean to recover all of my data
[11:05] <LinuxMonkey> IntuitiveNipple: can i msg you for a sec?
[11:06] <shredding> Is there any chance to install Netbeans 7.1 instead of 7.0.1 on ubunutu, because the <Enter> Button does not work in 7.0.1 and I'd call that a problem.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> kasii: use your backups, far easier
[11:06] <mbroeker> shredding, go to netbeans.org and install the latest version.
[11:07] <shredding> mbroeker: Are there any problems if I install that?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kasii: or you can use foremost which will attemot to recover the data
[11:07] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i don  have backups
[11:07] <IntuitiveNipple> LinuxMonkey: sure
[11:07] <deamosreapos> anyone knows what could be wrong besides I had the wrong drivers but now the right ones?
[11:07] <mbroeker> shredding, no: just uninstall the netbeans package and make sure to install ant and a default-jdk
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kasii: I suggest you get a backup regime if your data is important. Why is there no backup?
[11:08] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  where  can i get foremost
[11:08] <shredding> what do you mean be "default-jdk"?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost | kasii
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kasii: where do you get ANY software in ubuntu from/
[11:08] <mbroeker> shredding, aptitude purge netbeans and aptitude install default-jdk ant
[11:08] <shredding> I guess i got that.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kasii: again...why is there no backup?
[11:08] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  it was in extenal  hard drive
[11:08] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I've not read back on all of your issue, but am I guessing correctly that you have the cloned HDMI connected at startup ?
[11:08] <carpediembaby> so can anyone help me with booting into windows? i was trying to install ubuntu (12.04) over an existing ubuntu install but it crashed and now i get "grub rescue> " prompt. i tried this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802 but i get stuck at "chainloader +1" command
[11:09] <shredding> what does "aptitude purge" mean (I'm still learning linux)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> kasii: you can still make a copy of the data to ANOTHER external drive.
[11:09] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i kept them only in external hardive
[11:09] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple that is correct I have a normal screen which is connected by VGA, and I got a tv which is connected by HDMI
[11:09] <mbroeker> shredding, use the package manager :) purge removes packages, install installs them
[11:09] <shredding> I want to use the terminal, it's more stylish.
[11:10] <gLove_> hi does anybody know how to fix my boot problem. i have been searching on the web an trying various solutions, but it doesnt work and i need to fix this asap.
[11:10] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple and the moment I turn on my pc with botht the cables connected everything goes to smithereens and i get a nice purple screen to stare at >< I did found some others have a similar issue, but none of their solutions seemed to worked so far
[11:10] <mbroeker> shredding, do you programme in java with netbeans?
[11:10] <gLove_> the problem is that it boots into grub rescue (macbook with 12.04, after the latest update) with the error on elf magic
[11:10] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: If this is on a PC (not a laptop/notebook) then it could be as simple as the HDMI output is seen by the video card as the primary output so when something is connected at boot it tries to use it but somehow the drivers don't know how. Do you get a proper screen if you leave the HDMI disconnected whilst the PC boots?
[11:10] <shredding> I mainly do PHP.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> kasii: do yourself a favour and get a backup
[11:11] <shredding> I use eclipse for Java, because of the Android integration.
[11:11] <mbroeker> shredding, ok. just install the php package from netbeans.org and add the smarty zend whatever plugin from within netbeans. no need for ant in this case
[11:11] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple after this situation it gives an error it cant even load the OS, then I boot in safe mode then once I reboot it works properly again
[11:11] <stefg> gLove_: and you are on a Live CD on the very machine now?
[11:11] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple so thats then with only the VGA cable attached
[11:11] <shredding> mbroeker: I use ant to minify js and css
[11:11] <shredding> So it's cool.
[11:11] <gLove_> stefg: yes i am
[11:11] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: let me think!
[11:12] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple fair enough :) Didnt ment to rush you :)
[11:12] <stefg> gLove_: so I'd try to reconfigure/reinstall grub first
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: no,  its dredging mty memory!
[11:12] <gLove_> stefg: i tried, also tried boot-repair
[11:13] <gLove_> stefg: what is the vital thing i am missing here you think?
[11:13] <mbroeker> shredding, the developers in my company use all netbeans and install the software in their home directory. they decide, which plugins they want to use and what not.
[11:13] <stefg> gLove_: I'd go with an old school " chroot into damaged system and dpkg-reconfigure grub" approach ..
[11:13] <shredding> We use netbeans at work to, but on windows.
[11:13] <gLove_> stefg: gonna try that now, brb
[11:15] <shredding> mbroeker: Another n00b question. I've downloaded netbeans and have an .sh file now.
[11:15] <stefg> gLove_: Macs tend to have funny partition layouts, and grub is a special beast on EFI machines
[11:15] <shredding> Ain't sudo ./netbeans-7.1.2-ml-php-linux.sh the right command?
[11:15] <mbroeker> shredding, sh netbeans*.sh
[11:16] <mbroeker> shredding, or make it executable
[11:16] <shredding> it works.
[11:16] <shredding> thanks
[11:16] <mbroeker> shredding, http://www.anrichter.net/2010/01/trac-ticketsystem-in-die-netbeans-ide-integrieren/
[11:16] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  i don't see the  forensics application  see the image of the screen after searching so which is which
[11:16] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: I seem to remember when I saw that happen there was a hardware issue going on, but I'm struggling to recall or find any notes on the incident
[11:17] <mbroeker> shredding, that's BIRT, business intelligence for netbeans: greatest netbeans plugin ever :)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> kasii: sudo apt-get install foremost
[11:17] <kasii> ActionParsnip, http://imagebin.org/211087
[11:17] <shredding> mbroeker: Looks nice. But we're using codebase for ticketig.
[11:17] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple ok well as my hardware concerned: intel core2quad Q9450, geforce GTX460 and I think the card might be the issue somewhere but not quite sure
[11:18] <shredding> mbroeker: Looks nice. But we're using codebase for ticketing.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> kasii: close that and use the terminal, should be ok
[11:19] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Yes, it could be. If you had an alternative video adapter lying around (or in another PC) I'd be tempted to swap it in just to test whether this is specific to the video card, or a more general system problem. That helps to isolate and identify the bug
[11:19] <shredding> mbroeker: Thanks for your tips. I have now netbeans up and running.
[11:20] <stefg> !pm > dennis__
[11:20] <gaelfx> I'm trying to install to an Asus 1225B using LiveUSB, but every time I do, when it gets to dummy grub-install, the screen turns into a terminal, though the mouse remains and can move for a while before it freezes. Anyone have any idea what's going on?
[11:20] <lnxslck> ActionParsnip, do you know how can i get the default grub theme back?
[11:20] <dennis__> stefg, ok
[11:21] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple could give that a go,
[11:21] <dennis__> stefg, i am trying stuff now
[11:21] <deamosreapos> but that will be later on today then, since thats quite the operation
[11:21] <stefg> dennis__: assuming you're gLove_  you could drop a fdisk -l listing to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <deamosreapos> IntuitiveNipple say if thats the problem then what could I do?
[11:22] <vectorshelve> how to create a csv file in ubuntu ?
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> deamosreapos: Well, until you can narrow down the possibilities its hard to say, but the art of bug tracking and fixing is to narrow down the possibilities to ONE !
[11:23] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, without programming skills? use libreoffice and export a table to csv :)
[11:23] <Miskor> Torified Pidgin and Thunderbird cannot connect?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> lnxslck: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: a CSV is just a text file with comma-separated values so you could do something like echo "1,2,3,4,5" > myfile.csv
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> vectorshelve: use gedit
[11:24] <vectorshelve> so how to get rows out of it... new lines ?
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: Precisely
[11:24] <gaelfx> is it normal for Ubiquity to destroy the GUI during installing grub?
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: And most applications that read CSVs will look for column names on the first line
[11:25] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: I think that happens when grub tests for graphics video mode support and it goes wrong
[11:25] <vectorshelve> I want a csv file like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/968889/
[11:25] <vectorshelve> with the same values..
[11:26] <craigbass1976> I'm in the software center, and I keep seeing that I have java installed.  I uninstall it.  I come back.  It's there showing that it's still installed. Rinse.  Repeat...  Eh?
[11:26] <stefg> dennis__ , gLove_ : http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html might help
[11:26] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, and the input format is what?
[11:26] <jrib> craigbass1976: tried using apt-get in the terminal?
[11:26] <krababbel> craigbass1976: you could try remving it with apt-get uninstall
[11:27] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: so you're saying I just need to wait it out or I need to use nomodeset when booting the Live image? or what?
[11:27] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/968892/
[11:27] <vectorshelve> how can I  get the csv like this
[11:27] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: simply paste those lines into a text file and save it as a .csv file. As someone else said you can use the system text editor, gedit
[11:27] <BlouBlou> what's the name of the flash installed package?
[11:27] <BlouBlou> installer
[11:27] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: the first row should be the attribute names right ?
[11:27] <craigbass1976> krababbel, not remove?
[11:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: No, you're hitting a bug I think, grub shouldn't let you see it's doing that. At most you should see a slight flicker
[11:28] <stefg> vectorshelve: look at awk / mawk
[11:28] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: the weird thing is, the rest of the screen turns into CLI with lots of hex addresses and a little text, but the mouse remains exactly the same as it was
[11:28] <vectorshelve> stefg: whats that ?
[11:28] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: That can help *if* the program that reads the CSV knows to take the first line as column names but that is OPTIONAL - you don't need that for a valid CSV
[11:29] <krababbel> craigbass1976: ?
[11:29] <stefg> !info awk | vectorshelve
[11:29] <stefg> !info mawk | vectorshelve
[11:29] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: ok so I just need to copy paste the data as it is and save as .csv ?
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: It sounds like there are two screen drivers trying to operate: a framebuffer and a graphics driver for X
[11:29] <craigbass1976> krababbel, I've never used uninstall, and didn't know it was even an option.  I always did remove
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> vectorshelve: You've got it! :)
[11:29] <stefg> vectorshelve: that's as old as unix .... but still useful
[11:29] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, cat test.txt | awk -F", " '{ print $1 $2 $3 $4 }'
[11:29] <vectorshelve> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[11:30] <krababbel> craigbass1976: sorry, it is remove probably, I haven't used it in a while
[11:30] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: is there anyway I can check what's left of the install for error logs?
[11:30] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: I dont know awk... wat does it do /.
[11:30] <krababbel> craigbass1976: Yesterday I had the same problem with a Thunderbird addon.
[11:30] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, try it out in your terminal with your test.csv file
[11:30] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: or possibly try reinstalling grub to get things actually bootable?
[11:30] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: ok thanks
[11:30] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, $1 is the first value, $2 the second and so on
[11:30] <kasii> ActionParsnip, see how terminal how it behaves and what to do  http://imagebin.org/211089
[11:31] <craigbass1976> krababbel, mwahaha: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-debian-package-management-cheat-sheet.html
[11:31] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: so its a loop that repeats for all rows
[11:31] <kasii> ActionParsnip, see how terminal how it behaves and what to do  http://imagebin.org/211089
[11:31] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, cat test.txt | awk -F", " '{ print $1 "-" $2 "--" $3 "----" $4 }'
[11:31] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: There are logs, if I recall, in /var/log/installer/  and other log files in /var/log/
[11:31] <krababbel> craigbass1976: :) I often use purge
[11:31] <mbroeker> vectorshelve, awk processes every line and prints what it should print $1-$4 in this case
[11:32] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to reinstall a package by using apt-get?
[11:32] <vectorshelve> mbroeker: ok thanks
[11:32] <BlouBlou> (not removed and install, but automatically reinstall)
[11:32] <craigbass1976> BlouBlou, apt-get install package name
[11:32] <jrib> BlouBlou: why?
[11:32] <stefg> BlouBlou: apt-get install -reinstall <package>
[11:32] <mbroeker> BlouBlou, with or without lost config files?
[11:32] <craigbass1976> How about listing the installed packages named something like *ava*
[11:33] <stefg> !apt
[11:33] <BlouBlou> mbroeker: removing config files
[11:33] <Dr_willis> apt-get supports wildcards in ubuntu ive noticed
[11:33] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[11:33] <tBag> Witam ktoś pomorze z aktualizacją ubuntu 10.04 wykonałem polecenie apt-get dist-upgrade teraz mam okienko i nie wiem co wybrać?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> and tab completion
[11:33] <jrib> craigbass1976: dpkg -l '*ava*' | grep '^ii'     with aptitude: aptitude search '~i~n*ava*'
[11:33] <stefg> !pl | tBag
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> kasii: s it still there or has the package installed?
[11:33] <jrib> craigbass1976: oops, aptitude expects a regex
[11:33] <tBag> Hi can you help me with upgrade ubuntu??
[11:34] <mbroeker> BlouBlou,  aptitude -o Dpkg::Options="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename> reinstalls and restores the original state
[11:34] <craigbass1976> jrib, got it
[11:34] <stefg> tBag: sure.... after you have done your backups :-)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> tBag: upgrade within the same release, or to the next release?
[11:34] <bobbyaldol> hey my webbrowser is trying to download the php files rather than opening them.
[11:34] <bobbyaldol> googled a lot but coudnt understand anything . please help
[11:34] <mbroeker> bobbyaldol, on your own server? your fault! on another server? their fault
[11:35] <tBag> i can't done backups because the allready install. I have this window: http://s4.ifotos.pl/img/zrzutekra_reaxaea.png
[11:35] <bobbyaldol> my own server apache2
[11:35] <jrib> mbroeker: as much as I love aptitude we should try to use apt-get here (or at least provide the apt-get equivalent) since it's installed by default and aptitude is broken on multi-arch systems
[11:35] <BlouBlou> mbroeker: Great, thank you
[11:35] <jrib> !lamp | bobbyaldol
[11:35] <jrib> bobbyaldol: read the troubleshooting section for that exact issue on the wiki page ubottu just linked you to
[11:35] <mbroeker> jrib, ok
[11:35] <BlouBlou> jrib: aptitude came installed by default in my ubuntu, also works fine for me
[11:36] <krababbel> craigbass1976: apt-cache search should work
[11:36] <stefg> tBag: let it reinstalll
[11:36] <Dr_willis> aptitude is not installed by default last i checked...
[11:36] <tBag> What option i must click?? Yes or no??
[11:36] <jrib> BlouBlou: not on the latest ubuntu versions :)  See release notes for 12.04 about the issue with aptitude and multi-arch
[11:36] <Jwtiyar> after formatting my windows i cant boot to ubuntu , except bott repair any other option to fx it through windows?
[11:36] <mbroeker> on 12.04 server it is preinstalled
[11:36] <stefg> tBag: Nie
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> tBag: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:36] <krababbel> I had to remove a thunderbird extension with apt-get, software center didn't work
[11:36] <kasii> ActionParsnip,  am uploading to show you where it is
[11:36] <Dr_willis> Jwtiyar,  so what is it doing exactly? you get the grub menu, you dont get the gui login? but have to use the grub 'rescue' mode?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tBag: you are using backtrack, which isn't supported here
[11:37] <tBag> stefg i don't must install kernel-image??
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tBag: your OS is supoprted in #backy
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> ooops
[11:37] <krababbel> craigbass1976: don't need wildcards in apt-cache
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> #backtrack-linux
[11:37] <jrib> ActionParsnip: i think that would be a nice nickname though, "backy"
[11:38] <tBag> ActionParsnip, yes backtrack-linux but it is ubuntu help please
[11:38] <Dr_willis> BackyDorre
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> jrib: hehe, true
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tBag: no, it's backtrack
[11:38] <Dr_willis> tBag,  backtrack is not ubuntu.
[11:38] <Jwtiyar> Dr_willis, yes does not show the grup menu another time i fixed it throught live cd ubuntu now i dont have cd or usb , and i want to fix it throught windows
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tBag: NONE of the ubuntu spinoffs are supported here
[11:38] <stefg> tBag: whatever happened .... it should not be a problem of reinstalling a kernel, but it surely is a problem to interrupt the upgrade
[11:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, now its here
[11:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, now its here  http://imagebin.org/211090
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Jwtiyar,  i know of no way to 'fix' grub from within windows. there may be a way. but ive never seen it.  You can setup grub2 to boot a iso file from a  partition if you need some sort of way to boot a emergancy repair live cd
[11:39] <tBag> stefg so what option i must click Yes(Tak) or No(Nie) :)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> kasii: tried a different source? Maybe that one is busy.
[11:39] <stefg> tBag: Nie ... as said before..
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> tBag: please take it to #backtrack-linux
[11:39] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay tell the other
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> kasii: you can change source in software centre
[11:40] <kasii> okay which source
[11:40] <Dr_willis> !info mirrorselect
[11:40] <Jwtiyar> Dr_willis, thank you
[11:40] <mbroeker> btw: anyone having problems with rhythmbox on 12.04? eg it crashes during startup?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm. what was that mirror testing tool.
[11:40] <tBag> stefg, thanks. The ubuntu forums don't ansfer me now
[11:40] <tBag> http://ubuntu.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=158255
[11:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Dr_willis: there is a convoluted way to do grub fixes from Windows... but it involves Ubuntu installed in a virtual machine :s
[11:41] <kasii>  Action parsnip okay which source
[11:41] <LinuxMonkey> !backtrack | tBag
[11:41] <craigbass1976> There's no repo to get Sun's java from anymore, right?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> IntuitiveNipple,  id just set up grub2 to boot an iso from a hd. seen that done with windows tools from pendrivelinux site.
[11:41] <stefg> !java
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: there is a PPA
[11:42] <mbroeker> craigbass1976, sun java is now oracle java :)
[11:42] <tBag> #backtrack-linux
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[11:42] <craigbass1976> mbroeker, I know, but Oracle is evil.  I prefer the previous owner's name. :)
[11:42] <mbroeker> hehe
[11:42] <Dr_willis> SUN had its own Sins... ;)
[11:42] <kasii>  okay which source
[11:42] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay which source
[11:43] <anakinuni> newbie needs help with audio in ubuntu
[11:43] <stefg> !sound
[11:44] <stefg> ...uhhh , taht factoid is ancient ...
[11:44] <kasii> ActionParsnip, okay which source
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kasii: that doesn't make any sense
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> kasii: did you change the source?
[11:45] <anev> do i have to add repos to synaptic to make it of any use?
[11:45] <anev> can't find snort?
[11:45] <dennis__> stefg, the chroot command gives me a error: /bin/bash no such file or directory
[11:45] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i dont the source if have been changed or not i need ya help
[11:45] <gry> hi! I try installing libdevel-repl-perl in synaptic, and this is what it tells me -- W: Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libb/libbrowser-open-perl/libbrowser-open-perl_0.03-1_all.deb - Connection failed
[11:46] <ThinkT510> !info snort | anev
[11:46] <craigbass1976> anakinuni, I found that installing the pulse controls helps with some things that I couldn't find easily elsewhere.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> gry: try:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[11:46] <stefg> dennis__: ubuntu uses dash .... an bTW did you rbind-mount /sys /proc and /dev before chrooting?
[11:46] <kasii> ActionParsnip, i dont  know  the source if have been changed or not i need ya help
[11:46] <anev> ThinkT510: ?
[11:46] <dennis__> stefg, i did
[11:46] <ThinkT510> anev: snort is in the repo
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> kasii: no, its not a case of IF it has been changed, you NEED to change it
[11:47] <dennis__> stefg, what do i do now
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> kasii: use software centre to change source
[11:47] <anakinuni> @craigbass1976, really? I only have problems when connecting my headphones, my speakers work great...
[11:47] <anev> ThinkT510: oh - was just thinking it was out of date but when i try to refresh, it reports an error: "Could not download all repository indexes" :(
[11:47] <anev> no address assoicated with 'ie.aarchive.ubuntu.com' :(
[11:47] <kasii> ActionParsnip, tell me how can i change the source from the software centre
[11:47] <ThinkT510> anev: what ubuntu are you running
[11:48] <ThinkT510> anev: 10.10 is eol
[11:48] <stefg> dennis__: does 'chroot </mysystem> sh' work? should pick the right shell from environment
[11:48] <dennis__> stefg: no :(
[11:48] <craigbass1976> anakinuni, that was my problem.  I couldn't find (in a GUI or alsamixer) where to switch from one to the other.
[11:48] <Crooper> What would be the reason for me getting a 'initramfs' prompt when booting up?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> kasii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:48] <kasii> ActionParsnip, tell me how can i change the source from the software centre
[11:48] <Dr_willis> anev,  change it to archive.ubuntu.com perhaps...
[11:48] <dennis__> stefg: same error. failed to run command 'sh': no such file or dir
[11:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Crooper: Failure to find or mount the root partition
[11:49] <anev> ThinkT510: 10.10
[11:49] <anev> Dr_willis: i'll give it a try
[11:49] <ThinkT510> anev: use a supported release
[11:49] <sirknight> hi
[11:49] <stefg> dennis__: hmmm ... something's really borked .... did you fsck / know that your harddsik is alright?
[11:49] <ThinkT510> !eol | anev
[11:49] <Dr_willis> anev,  either yoy typed it wrong or theres a typo 'aarchive'
[11:49] <Crooper> IntuitiveNipple any ideas how to fix it?
[11:49] <jrib> !away > Someguy123[afk]
[11:50] <sirknight>  i like to ssh into a box copyy a 6gb ish  folder and to a remote computer
[11:50] <sirknight> how to do it?
[11:50] <Dr_willis> sirknight,  use scp
[11:50] <stefg> sirknight: scp
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[11:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Crooper: You need to identify the cause, by catching errors written to the screen during start-up. Reboot and enter the GRUB boot-loader menu by holding down the Shift key as soon as BIOS finishes POSTing. Then choose the recovery option and watch the messages on screen carefully.
[11:51] <stefg> !scp
[11:51]  * stefg is impressed
[11:51] <Dr_willis> i got a scp client on my android phone. ;)
[11:51] <Crooper> Ok
[11:52] <Crooper> I'll haveto do that ina minute...
[11:52] <sirknight> Dr_willis,  really?? what is it?
[11:53] <Crooper> Thnx IntuitiveNipple
[11:53] <anev> Dr_willis: working now - but still no snort..
[11:53] <Dr_willis> sirknight,  theres many ssh tools for android.
[11:54] <Dr_willis> anev,  no idea what your original issue is.. if your release is EOL. time to upgrade
[11:54] <anev> probably
[11:54] <ThinkT510> anev: 10.10 is no longer supported
[11:54] <anev> it's only a vm image anyways
[11:54] <anev> i'll update so
[11:55] <ThinkT510> anev: don't worry, you don't have to use unity in newer releases
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: good riddance too
[11:55] <stefg> heheh
[11:55]  * Dr_willis likes the Unity HUD feature.
[11:55] <laumogay> hi where can i config the unity bar??
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to remove HUD?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: use myunity
[11:56] <ThinkT510> ActionParsnip: 12.04 is the first time i've tried unity properly, it isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[11:56] <stefg> ActionParsnip: ... cut out the alternate key on your keyboard :-)
[11:56] <totem> nang ning nang ning nong
[11:56] <mbroeker> is it possible to get the 11.10 Unity Screen with Browser, Pictures, Sound And Email back in 12.04?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its ok here too, but I only use about 5 programs on one screen, on one desktop :)
[11:56] <totem> malam minggu goyang dombret
[11:56] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  i think its somehow intertwined with the global menu
[11:56] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, thx
[11:56] <ThinkT510> totem: stop that please
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> stefg: its good for copy and paste but if you don't press it right the HUD jumps up
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i see, gah
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: never used it here, just thought I'd skim it out
[11:57] <Dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  or at least its useing some of the dbus features of that global menu from what i recall reading
[11:57] <LinuxMonkey> lol I havent found one good use for the HUD yet.lol
[11:57] <Dr_willis> for 'finding obscure apps and menu items' hud is very handy
[11:57] <stefg> mbroeker: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel and choose gnome classic at login .... as if nothing ever changed (except you need to press <alt><alt gr> to edit the panel)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: i'll see if I can change the binding to scroll lock or something equally obscure
[11:58] <Dr_willis> cant say that i ever accidently activate it.
[11:58] <laumogay> why i have to do sudo su in ubuntu unlike other distro where i just have to do su???
[11:58] <mbroeker> stefg, no, i want to use unity. i like it.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: I only use around 6 or 7 apps, most stuff I do in guake :)
[11:58] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo su is very wrong
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: because the root account is disabled
[11:58] <laumogay> ThinkT510, i do it all the time
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: use:  sudo -i  instead for an (i)nteractive sudo
[11:59] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo -i is the more correct way to get a root terminal
[11:59] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, not gksudo?
[11:59] <mbroeker> stefg, press the windows key in ubuntu 11.x and you will see a page with default apps. in 12.04 its gone
[11:59] <ThinkT510> laumogay: gksudo is for launching graphical apps
[11:59] <jenenliu> sudo -i is the right way
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: you can use gksudo if you like, just don't use sudo for GUI apps like gedit and nautilus
[12:00] <jenenliu> admin
[12:00] <stefg> mbroeker: ah, now i understand.... i dodged everything after 10.04 , so i only know unity in its 12.04 incarnation. But i used some ppa to get a intellihide launcher bar
[12:01] <sirknight> how to find out my external ip?
[12:01] <laumogay> ActionParsnip, what is the difference between sudo su and sudo -i?i dont understand sorry for my noobism
[12:01] <gry> ActionParsnip: that didn't help
[12:01] <gry> ActionParsnip: (with the connection failed)
[12:01] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo -i sets the environment more appropriately
[12:02] <ThinkT510> laumogay: sudo su doesn't, which could mess up application settings
[12:02] <LinuxMonkey> sirknight: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: sudo -i   uses your users profile and settings, sudo su   uses roots, which is blank
[12:02] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: Go to Google search and enter "show my ip address" !!
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: www.ipchicken.com
[12:02] <stefg> mbroeker: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/enable-dodge-unity-launcher-ubuntu-12-04/
[12:02] <sab> i would like to customize latest ubuntu 12.4 lts with couple of packages can some one tell me which tool i can use to customize the iso i tried uck but it does not work with new ubuntu 12.4
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> sirknight: IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP
[12:04] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: Or, if you're on a gateway machine, something as simple as ifconfig ppp0
[12:04] <laumogay> i want to organise my unity bar shortcuts myunity does not seems to do that how can i organize my shortcuts???
[12:04] <ThinkT510> laumogay: drag and drop
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> laumogay: if you want to re-aarange the icons, click and hold on an icon and you can drag them up and down
[12:05] <dennis__> stefg, nothing seems to work. i rebooted.. can you help me ouy i am running out of time
[12:05] <Yusuke> so #ubuntu is the largest channel in freenode
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Yusuke: probably....
[12:06] <laumogay> when i drag it only moves my bar and not my icons (im in ubuntu 2d)
[12:06] <Yusuke> how to do CLI tiling in ubuntu? any tutorial
[12:07] <Artemius23> I have a question about installing overgrowth at linux
[12:07] <stefg> dennis__: i have very little experience with macs, and acting under time pressure is counterproductive in that case. I don't know what you tried, and all i could offer is a (time consuming) systematic approach to troubleshooting
[12:07] <mbroeker> laumogay, unity-2d is not able to rearrange the icons. you have to do it with dconf-editor :)
[12:07] <IntuitiveNipple> Yusuke: what's tiling for a CLI?  ETA for an install: 20 minutes. ETA for debugging : 3 hours
[12:08] <mbroeker> Artemius23, install playonlinux and play and install from within playonlinux. makes your life easier
[12:08] <oCean> laumogay: mind your language here
[12:08] <ThinkT510> laumogay: i've never used unity2d, pleasantly suprised by the normal one though
[12:09] <sab> which tool can be used to customize ubuntu 12.4 so that one can add/remove required software and customize. uck seems to not support customizing ubuntu 12.4
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !remaster
[12:10] <ThinkT510> sab: don't like the software centre? try synaptic
[12:10] <Dr_willis> sab,  i think  some of those tools are needing updated for 12.04
[12:10] <sirknight> LinuxMonkey, IntuitiveNipple ActionParsnip  thanks !!
[12:10] <ThinkT510> sab: oh sorry, didn't realise you meant the cd
[12:10] <sab> i need to do lot of customization as well hence will need to get bash access
[12:12] <sab> i want to edit latest ubuntu 12.4 LTS iso and install my own software and make it with 700 MB by removing some of the audio/video files etc. and adding my required applications we used to use uck but uck seems to be giving an error
[12:12] <sirknight> ActionParsnip,  thanks!!! now i can look up my ever chaning ip
[12:14] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: You could add a script to /etc/update-motd.d/ to fetch it every time you login
[12:14] <bibic682> Hello,   If I upgrade to 11.04.....do I lose my  old school style desktop?
[12:14] <sirknight> you can????!!
[12:15] <IntuitiveNipple> sirknight: yes. try man update-motd
[12:15] <dennis__> stefg, i am tired of it, gonna go for full reinstall. thank you
[12:15] <ThinkT510> bibic682: 11.04 still has gnome2, but support will end
[12:15] <LinuxMonkey> sirknight: you can also use services like no-ip.com and provide yourself with a non changing hostname that will keep up with your external ip
[12:15] <ThinkT510> bibic682: you are better off finding an alternative that suits you
[12:16] <stefg> bibic682: rather install 12.04 (11.04 will be phased out in only 6 months) , install gnome-panel and use gnome-classic
[12:17] <gaelfx> I'm an idiot
[12:17] <bibic682> is gnome-panel a stand alone application I install from software center?
[12:17] <ThinkT510> gaelfx: we all have those moments
[12:17] <IntuitiveNipple> gaelfx: join the club, it happens to us all! :D
[12:18] <apan> Anyone here thats using/used to install/config vsftpd on ubuntu server 11.10? (apologizes if its considered off topic)
[12:18] <ThinkT510> !notunity | bibic682
[12:18] <ronspirin> hi, can anyone tell me what ubuntu precise's defualt filesystem is? I'm using custom installation mode for various reasons, but want to go with the standard fs for the system partition
[12:18] <Arnold> bibic682, not exactly, but it will install the rest of the dependency that it needs along wtih gnome-panel.
[12:18] <jrib> ronspirin: should be ext4
[12:18] <stefg> bibic682:  i don't know how it is represented in software-center (i use synaptic), but it will pull all the dependencies in that you need for a gnome2-like desktop
[12:18] <ronspirin> jrib: you're sure it's not btrfs?
[12:19] <gaelfx> IntuitiveNipple: so the problem was that there were apparently two ways to boot my USB; one with UEFI and one without, and I kept doing it with UEFI and apparently Ubiquity couldn't figure out how to install that.  I see the same thing. but i never tried the UEFI one. :)
[12:20] <gaelfx> Dr_willis: well, apparently you are cleverer than I
[12:20] <gaelfx> :P no big surprises there
[12:21] <Dr_willis> gaelfx,  the UEFI option was a the bottom of the list i thought. :) so im not sure why you tried it first.
[12:21] <LinuxMonkey> anyone know if the bug Unknown LVM metadata headers has been fixed yet. lol
[12:21] <gaelfx> Dr_willis: I didn't even look at the other one
[12:21] <kapz> I am stuck with on screen keyboard whebever my screen locks even after disabling it from control center. how do i get rid of it?
[12:21] <Dr_willis> ive edited the syslinux configs on the live-usb setups befor. ;) to tweak things.   perhaps someday it will start using grub2
[12:22] <Dr_willis> brb
[12:22] <sab> i am waiting for the answer how to customize new 12.4 LTS i tried using uck but it does nt work
[12:22] <ThinkT510> !remaster | sab
[12:22] <gaelfx> kapz: you have to open onboard settings and choose the option not to show it when screen is locked
[12:22] <gaelfx> kapz: you just couldn't resist opening OnBoard, could you? :P
[12:22] <laumogay> where can i find aircrack-ng repositary does it still exist or i will have to compile ?
[12:24] <gaelfx> laumogay: looks like it ain't in the repos, sorry
[12:24] <kapz> gaelfx, :)
[12:24] <LinuxMonkey> nvm on my previous question, i just realized its eighter fixed or I fixed it. not giving me the errors no more :)
[12:25] <stefg> laumogay: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1892695&page=2
[12:25] <kapz> gaelfx, do you know how do I get my lightdm "new" settings, the one from 12.04? I upgraded but the behaviour of lightdm is the same
[12:26] <gaelfx> kapz: what do you mean re: new settings?
[12:27] <kapz> gaelfx, in my new(fresh) installs the lightdm changes it's background to the desktop wallpaper, but it doesn't on the upgraded box...
[12:28] <gaelfx> kapz: I don't know how to do that, sorry :S
[12:28] <dr_willis> Kapz. Useing encrypted home on one?
[12:29] <gaelfx> bbl
[12:30] <IntuitiveNipple> kapz: The fix is to Change Desktop Background, select another background, then return to the one you want. That sorted it for me
[12:31] <stefg> Let me have some poll: until now my home network was nfs v3 based (better transfer rates than samba) . Having installed 12.04 i could either install nfs-kernel server, use samba or plain ftp. (sftp is painfully slow on Atom CPUs). security is not so much a concern, my WLAN is pretty safe, and there are no untrusted clients in the LAN. What would you folks do?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !poll
[12:31] <kiran_> can anyone solve my problem
[12:32] <kapz> IntuitiveNipple, you mean at login screen?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  begin with a question, that helps
[12:32] <kapz> dr_willis, no
[12:32] <ThinkT510> kiran_: pretty difficult if we don't know the problem
[12:33] <lotrpy> hello, does the recent samba bug effect ubuntu 12.04 clean install(I choose samba server) or not?
[12:33] <BongPh> #xubuntu
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> lotrpy  the recent samba bug?
[12:34] <jrib> lotrpy: "recent samba bug" is too vague...
[12:34] <poodler> Hi, I tried installing a game in wine on Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit, but wine wants to use 32-bit opengl
[12:34] <kiran_> i tried to install ubuntu-12.04 alongside windows 7 home premium but i got an error message stating look up this for more info " c:\users\appdata\local\temp\wubi-11.04-rev211.log"
[12:35] <lotrpy> I watched MonkeyDust and jrib, sorry, let me check it to see whether I can provide more detail information
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  wubi?
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> kiran_  ok, i see it now, wubi is an installation *inside* windows, not alongside it
[12:36] <kiran_> wubi-12.04-rev266.log
[12:36] <lotrpy> this samba bug http://lwn.net/Articles/491516/ Remote root hole in Samba
[12:36] <lotrpy> it posted April 10, 2012, so I can naively think it's ok for 12.04 user?
[12:37] <jrib> lotrpy: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1423-1/
[12:37] <kasii> ActionParsnip, check this  http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:37] <kiran_> what does that error mean
[12:37] <stefg> lotrpy: i recall security fixes coming in while i read the article .... so i guess that should be history
[12:38] <kasii> http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:38] <kasii> ActionParsnip, check this  http://imagebin.org/211096
[12:38] <lotrpy> jrib and stefg, thanks for the information.
[12:38] <jrib> lotrpy: that doesn't mention 12.04, but you can read apt-get changelog samba about the specific CVE
[12:39] <ThinkT510> kasii: 10.10 is no longer supported, use a supported release
[12:39] <lotrpy> oh, I had a Ubuntu 8.04 Destop x86 version, I stop the samba service at the moment, and the apt-get update system is broken...
[12:39] <Trel> Is there any reason (other than misconfiguration on my end) where trying to login to a Samba share that needs authentication doesn't work from a Windows 7 PC?
[12:39] <kasii> ThinkT510,  i need a help
[12:39] <ThinkT510> lotrpy: 8.04 is only supported for sever now
[12:39] <ThinkT510> server
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> kasii  10.10 is no longer supported, no help here, upgrade first
[12:40] <lotrpy> oh, jrib, oh, Let me check it
[12:40] <stefg> !samba
[12:40] <mbroeker> Trel, security settings in windows can prevent it: check /var/log/samba/***
[12:40] <sirknight> IntuitiveNipple,  LinuxMonkey  thanks for showing me options
[12:40] <Trel> [2012/05/04 23:11:12.429629, 1] smbd/service.c:678(make_connection_snum)
[12:40] <Trel> create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[12:40] <Trel> a lot of that
[12:40] <ThinkT510> kasii: for us to help you, you need to use a supported release
[12:40] <lotrpy> ThinkT510, yes, but I only know this difference when everything is too late...(to me) , :)
[12:40] <stefg> Trel: samba users are different from shell users ....
[12:41] <kasii> MonkeyDust,  if not supported why did u  give it to that time
[12:41] <Trel> stefg: I'm aware of that, I used smbpasswd -a
[12:41] <LinuxMonkey> !eol | kasii
[12:41] <stefg> Trel: ok, one point ruled out
[12:41] <mbroeker> Trel, what's your username, the name with which you want to connect?
[12:41] <Trel> digicam
[12:41] <kiran_> does ubuntu work with windows 7 home premium
[12:41] <mbroeker> Trel, sudo smbpasswd -a digicam
[12:42] <kasii> linux4u, eol what does it mean
[12:42] <Trel> I just told stefg, I've done that
[12:42] <mbroeker> ok
[12:42] <Trel> kasii end of life
[12:42] <ThinkT510> kiran_: your question doesn't make sense, you can dual-boot if thats what you want
[12:42] <poodler> anyone who can tell me how to install 32bit opengl support in 64bit ubuntu for wine?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> kasii: use a supported release
[12:43] <sirknight> IntuitiveNipple,  LinuxMonkey  no-ip isnt working i put the a no vaule in the spot of update ip timer and then it failed to install/bad install so how to redo the install?
[12:43] <kasii> ThinkT510, but  i dont other version of ubuntu cuz its have some buggs
[12:43] <ThinkT510> kiran_: what do you need help with?
[12:43] <kasii> Trel,  shutup
[12:43] <kiran_> ubuntu is not getting installed
[12:43] <ThinkT510> kasii: if you use 10.10 then you are on your own
[12:43] <tanner> hello
[12:44] <tanner> anyone there
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> kasii  your ubuntu version is not supported and you're rude to other users, watch it
[12:44] <stefg> Trel: could the Win7 client be configured to use AD?
[12:44] <ThinkT510> kiran_: if its wubi i can't help, i don't use wubi
[12:45] <kiran_> ok
[12:45] <kasii> monkeydust     what is the need of  using  those upgraded one
[12:45] <kiran_> is there any one who knows about wubi installer
[12:45] <neweruser1> hello??
[12:45] <neweruser1> I need help please regarding installing ubunut
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> kasii  because the repos of 10.10 are no longer active
[12:45] <ThinkT510> kasii: seriously, use a supported release and we can help you
[12:46] <Trel> stefg: definitely not
[12:46] <kasii> MonkeyDust, ThinkT510   what is the need of  using  those upgraded one
[12:46] <neweruser1> anyone can help me install ubuntu
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| neweruser1
[12:46] <Trel> I'm install smbclient right now to see if logging in with that fails too
[12:46] <LinuxMonkey> kasii: 1) security updates. do i need say more
[12:46] <ThinkT510> !releases | kasii
[12:46] <neweruser1> I want to install unbutu on my windows computer
[12:46] <neweruser1> but I dont  want to lose windows
[12:47] <mbroeker> Trel, http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Windows7 try the first registry settings block
[12:47] <kasii> linux4u, yes say more about it
[12:47] <stefg> neweruser1: having a backup is the best insurance first of all :-)
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> neweruser1  dual boot is what you want, you need free sapce on your harddrive, in which you can install ubuntu alongside windows
[12:47] <ThinkT510> !partitioning | neweruser1
[12:48] <neweruser1> cna you guide me
[12:48] <jalal> hey guys some one help me plzzz
[12:48] <gry> jalal, with?
[12:48] <neweruser1> I Have 1 500gb hdd, it has a seperate 70gb partition by windows
[12:48] <neweruser1> how do i tell ubuntu to install there
[12:48] <jalal> when i was upgrading my system mistakly system shutdown
[12:48] <gry> neweruser1, check out what ubottu said. it has all the info
[12:48] <stefg> neweruser1: please take a backup of your windows before trying to change the partition layout of your disk
[12:49] <neweruser1> gry the link is not working
[12:49] <jalal> now ubuntu not starting ..only purpel screen