[05:00] <kenthomson> SurR3AL, have you checked the md*sum?
[05:01] <SurR3AL> uhhh....wats dat?
[05:01] <arredju> im trying to install FUSE but when i do it gives me an error; files created are older than originals check your system clock
[05:01] <blackes1> i have sympathy for anyone trying to install ati drivers i spent far too long at it
[05:01] <eck> Q_Continuum_: if you can get grub on the drive (and working) without doing this then that is easier though
[05:01] <eck> it just looks like that is not possible with grub4dos
[05:01] <kenthomson> SurR3AL, currently on Windoze?
[05:01] <Pelo> arredju,  that's the kind off stuff you should look up in the forum
[05:02] <arredju> already searched google
[05:02] <bakefy> I tried to remove a locked "lost+found" folder and it didnt go away.
[05:02] <SurR3AL> yep...XP
[05:02] <SurR3AL> okay...i got this md5sum.txt file
[05:02] <arredju> i cant install anything
[05:02] <Pelo> bakefy,  there is a reason for those locks , leave it
[05:02] <SurR3AL> but what do i check it with?
[05:02] <timfrost> !md5sum | SurR3AL
[05:02] <ubotu> SurR3AL: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[05:02] <bakefy> Pelo, I just added this hard drive.  I just reinstalled ubuntu
[05:02] <SurR3AL> okay thanks....will check it :)
[05:02] <kenthomson> timfrost, i was manually looking for it
[05:03] <bakefy> this hard drive just has music on it.
[05:03] <gaspipe1> night all
[05:03] <Pelo> bakefy,  I think lost and found is part of all ext3 partitions,  I have one on each
[05:03] <eck> arredju: fix your clock
[05:03] <rbil> SurR3AL: there's a md5sum.exe for Windows somewhere on the net. Install it and run it against the iso you downloaded. If the numbers match what's in the txt file, the iso is good to go
[05:03] <Q_Continuum_> eck: trying to figure out the exact command for dd...I'm thinking "dd if=c:\boot.img of=\\.\g:" - that look alright?
[05:03] <eck> the command to use is date
[05:03] <kenthomson> now if i could get some attention my ubuntu-human theme is acting like ubuntu-blue theme, how do i revert back to the original?
[05:04] <bakefy> is it bad that it is locked?  I can't even see what is inside it.
[05:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> If I've already compiled and installed a driver, can I still install a patch?
[05:04] <peeps> what GUI irc clients does everyone use?  I am using xchat, is there something that you would consider better?
[05:04] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i am not really sure, because you need to dd to the start of the device itself (not the partition)
[05:04] <ElllisD> peeps: i like gaim
[05:04] <Toma-> peeps: xchat is the bomb. especially with transparent windows
[05:04] <eck> on linux it would be dd if=boot.img of=/dev/sda
[05:04] <eck> or even cat boot.img > /dev/sda
[05:05] <Q_Continuum_> eck: :-/ (the command above errors out saying it can't do it because the file is being used by another process)
[05:05] <Pelo> later folks
[05:05] <ElllisD> peeps: cuz it remembers my password
[05:05] <chalcedony> ElllisD: have you tried pasting text into yahoo on gaim? on mine it's printing a number of odd things in front of each line i type, now, my friend sees them
[05:05] <Q_Continuum_> Would the Ubuntu live CD load NTFS drives as readable?
[05:05] <bakefy> what is the command to change ownership of a directory>
[05:05] <eck> yes
[05:05] <Q_Continuum_> (If so I can pop that in this workstation and boot and run the command from linux)
[05:05] <eck> yes
[05:05] <eck> that is a good idea
[05:06] <ElllisD> chalcedony: no, I don't use yahoo except for dominoes
[05:06] <peeps> ok 2 xchat questions: 1) is there a way to display timestamps next to all messages, and 2) How can I make it open FF for links instead of Konqueror
[05:06] <chalcedony> peeps: which Xchat?
[05:06] <peeps> ElllisD: and I didn't realize gaim did IRC, i will have to try that too.
[05:06] <ElllisD> chalcedony: are you in here on gaim, cuz i see regular text from you in here
[05:06] <peeps> chalcedony 2.6.6
[05:06] <eck> the irc option in gaim is pretty awful
[05:06] <Toma-> peeps Settings > Advanced > URL Handerers
[05:07] <chalcedony> ElllisD: i'm here on Xchat .. i use gaim for yahoo
[05:07] <ElllisD> eck: why?
[05:07] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I'm going to give it a try then, which command is more likely to succeed, or would both?
[05:07] <eck> Q_Continuum_: just use cat
[05:07] <eck> if you have the .img.gz use zcat
[05:07] <eck> e.g. zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sda
[05:07] <Toma-> peeps: Settings > Preferences > Text box > Timestamps
[05:07] <eck> ElllisD: i think the interface is just insane
[05:07] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can I patch a driver if I don't have the source code?
[05:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> Or should I not try?
[05:08] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I've unpacked it.  Gonna give it a go...then I'll boot back to Windows so I can get back in here and let you know how it goes :D
[05:08] <eck> ok
[05:08] <ElllisD> eck: yeah i can see room for improvement
[05:08] <bakefy> what do I need to do in the smb.conf file to share without a password?
[05:08] <R[a] ndom> bakefy, here I'll show you what I did
[05:09] <Chicory> Oh darn it.  >:E
[05:09] <bakefy> R[a] ndom, Thanks!
[05:09] <R[a] ndom> http://www.pastebin.ca/377949
[05:09] <R[a] ndom> I just added that
[05:09] <chalcedony> ElllisD: i need to get rid of the random characters .. will restarting gaim do that, like it does on windows ?
[05:10] <peeps> thanks guys, i got timestamps working.  konq is still loading though, gonna try to restart the app.
[05:10] <peeps> brb
[05:10] <ElllisD> chalcedony: no idea- try it i guess- I wonder if its a font issue?
[05:11] <tunganet> Does anyone know how to cancel hot area for Beryl?
[05:11] <BENN92647> anyone know if ther eis a defrag program for lunix?
[05:11] <eck> there is not
[05:11] <BENN92647> great
[05:11] <chalcedony> BENN92647: no need for it
[05:11] <Joboo> !whitescreen
[05:11] <Madpilot> BENN92647, there's no need for one. Only NTFS & fat32 fragment.
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whitescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <eck> normally it is not an issue unless you have done something dumb
[05:11] <yharrow> cancel hotareas by opening beryl settings
[05:11] <phishy> hello.. what process mounts usb drives to /media on startup?
[05:11] <BENN92647> ok what a bout a clean up utility
[05:12] <chalcedony> does rebooting gaim fix problems in it?
[05:12] <eck> as long as you keep 20% free space or so you will not get enough fragmentation to worry about
[05:12] <Madpilot> BENN92647, cleanup for what?>
[05:12] <ElllisD> never had problems w/ it to know
[05:12] <gravemind> who knows about k3b
[05:12] <ElllisD> gravemind: what?
[05:12] <BENN92647> i think i have a bunch of double files from botched installs
[05:12] <yharrow> Beryl settings manager> General options> Shortcuts> Screen edges
[05:12] <BENN92647> YAY! gravemind
[05:13] <gravemind> EllisD: does it automatically use DiskAtOnce or TrackAtOnce for audio
[05:13] <gravemind> BENN92647: hey what's up?
[05:13] <eck> Madpilot: all writeable filesystems fragmetnt
[05:13] <ElllisD> wow no clue sorry
[05:13] <yharrow> tunganet, <<
[05:13] <yharrow> that was for you
[05:13] <Madpilot> eck, true - I should have said that ext3 et al fix themselves, pretty much.
[05:13] <gravemind> ElllisD: it makes a huge difference for pink floyd albums
[05:13] <BENN92647> well i decided to dual boot LOL Guild wars is way to buggy in linux
[05:13] <tunganet> yes?
[05:13] <tunganet> where/
[05:13] <yharrow>  Beryl settings manager> General options> Shortcuts> Screen edges
[05:13] <ElllisD> gravemind: whats it do?
[05:13] <gravemind> BENN92647: good choice
[05:13] <ElllisD> <--- love pf
[05:13] <tunganet> oh
[05:14] <BENN92647> ok bee right back
[05:14] <tunganet> thanks man!
[05:14] <rbil> gravemind: u can set the one u want in k3b, if I recall. a dropdown
[05:14] <yharrow> tunganet, your very welcome
[05:14] <tunganet> And how do i run full screen programs?
[05:14] <ElllisD> oh i see what youre talking about- theres a way somewhere to remove the gap
[05:14] <yharrow> tunganet, which one?
[05:14] <tunganet> when i run games, the top panel and bottom panel does not hide
[05:14] <peeps> hey guys, I can't get xchat to load firefox when I click "open link in browser"
[05:14] <gravemind> ElllisD: track at once puts a teeny gap between tracks (it's what itunes uses) Disk at Once burns with no gaps between tracks
[05:15] <eck> peeps: what DE?
[05:15] <yharrow> tunganet, personally I right click the panel and choose "hide panel"
[05:15] <ElllisD> gravemind: yeah- i know what you mean- it helps on dj mixes too
[05:15] <tunganet> oh what..
[05:15] <tunganet> i have to do that everytime..?
[05:15] <yharrow> tunganet, no once
[05:15] <gravemind> rbil: ElllisD : I see it! it's in Project>properties
[05:15] <yharrow> tunganet, autohide
[05:15] <tunganet> oh
[05:15] <peeps> eck: i am in gnome, but xchat wants to use konqueror for some reason
[05:15] <tunganet> ok
[05:15] <eck> peeps: system > preferences > preferred applicaitons
[05:15] <ElllisD> gravemind: sweet
[05:15] <tunganet> oh and
[05:15] <tunganet> what is the default shortcut for unfold cube?
[05:16] <tunganet> its ctrl alt next
[05:16] <peeps> eck: i have that already set to firefox
[05:16] <tunganet> but what's next?
[05:16] <yell0w> how's things tunganet
[05:16] <Chicory> Does anyone else have any problems with WoW hanging under Ubuntu 6.10?
[05:16] <tunganet> OMG YELL0W!
[05:16] <FlippantBird> can anyone tell me if the open source radeon drivers support a mobility radeon 9600?
[05:16] <_Krull_> I need someone to walk me thru the install process from the manual part of partinioning so I will still have xp
[05:16] <yharrow> tunganet, one second Ill find out for you ;)
[05:16] <eck> peeps: easiest thing is to use another client (maybe xchat-gnome), i think there is some way to edit the system-wide mime settings to use firefox, but that is suboptimal
[05:16] <gravemind> ElllisD: rbil : have you ever tried "write cd text?" I tried it in itunes on my mac and it kept burning coasters.
[05:17] <tunganet> okay thanks!
[05:17] <ElllisD> gravemind: nope, no ipod
[05:17] <rbil> gravemind: no
[05:17] <gravemind> well there's a 'simulate' option. would that tell me if it would burn a coaster
[05:17] <eck> peeps: /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[05:17] <ElllisD> gravemind: but if i burn mp3's like a data project my cd player reads the id3's
[05:18] <eck> you are looking for text/html
[05:18] <rpc> is there a way to run a custom kernel that i just installed if it's compiled without initrd? grub tries to run initrd by default and it all fails
[05:18] <ElllisD> or something- it knows their name
[05:18] <gravemind> ElllisD: cool, is that a stereo or a portable cd player
[05:18] <rbil> ElllisD: I believe he's talking about burning audio cds
[05:18] <ElllisD> portable
[05:18] <eck> rpc: just don't add an initrd line
[05:19] <rpc> eck i didn't
[05:19] <ElllisD> o
[05:19] <gravemind> rbil: yeah, I'm talking about that
[05:19] <eck> rpc: also check to make sure kopts is not set
[05:19] <eck> kopts will be automatically appended to any entries
[05:19] <rpc> eck and it says about missing root etc. (kernel panic)
[05:19] <ElllisD> so the write cd text function is for that then
[05:19] <eck> rpc: you need a root= line
[05:19] <rpc> eck i have one
[05:19] <rbil> ElllisD: right, wave files don't have id tags
[05:19] <rpc> eck it's pointing to the same device as in the previous kernel
[05:19] <ElllisD> does flac?
[05:19] <eck> rpc: you might be missing the driver your your hard drive
[05:20] <gravemind> ElllisD: yes. it populates the toc file with information
[05:20] <Madpilot> ElllisD, flac & ogg both have id3 tags
[05:20] <peeps> eck: yeah that file is set to firefox too for text/html
[05:20] <rpc> eck it's a sata device - i didn't really see antything for sata in config
[05:20] <ElllisD> cool
[05:20] <JamesBee1> anyone know why the mozilla vlc plugin result in a no video screen and how to fix it?
[05:20] <eck> peeps: then the application is broken, file a bug report on it
[05:20] <eck> rpc: what kernel?
[05:21] <rpc> eck <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:21] <gravemind> ElllisD, rbil: when I tried that option in itunes it kept ruining my cds, so I'd like to simulate it with either 'simulate' or 'only create image' options
[05:21] <eck> rpc: i think it is folded in with the scsi stuff in 2.6.20
[05:21] <gravemind> I'll try that later I guess
[05:21] <rpc> eck oh
[05:21] <brianski> is there a way to remove all the extraneous xserver-xorg video drivers that come with ubuntu? i only need the one for my video card...
[05:21] <rbil> gravemind: waste a cd and find out :-)
[05:21] <gravemind> JamesBee1: I had that problem. I uninstalled the vlc plugin
[05:21] <rpc> eck ok looks like i need to start from scratch then :/ thank you
[05:21] <gravemind> rbil: yeah
[05:21] <brianski> ... but it seems xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-video-all which depends on each of those other guys
[05:21] <rpc> eck but don't you think it has to do with missing initrd image?
[05:22] <JamesBee1> gravemind mplayer plugin works for me, but poorly. i was hoping for an alternative
[05:22] <brianski> which is nice for getting an install up, but after that...
[05:22] <Negima> is there a channel specificly for sound issues?
[05:22] <rpc> eck even though there is no initrd line for that kernel in grub
[05:22] <eck> rpc: you do not need an initrd
[05:22] <_Krull_> ppl, anyone avalible to help me install ubuntu on empty space after my XP partition? I have install ready and waiting
[05:22] <ElllisD> brianski: see if synaptic'll let you do it
[05:22] <Negima> JamesBee1, did you try changing the video driver mplayer uses?
[05:22] <bakefy> my xp still cant get on my samba shaye
[05:22] <eck> you only need an initrd if the kernel does not have modules compiled in that are necessary to boot the system
[05:22] <gravemind> JamesBee1: I'm not sure what I ended up using - I think its gstreamer or totem plugins
[05:22] <bakefy> share*
[05:22] <rpc> eck ok thank you
[05:23] <Negima> i just installed mplayer
[05:23] <Negima> at first, it wouldnt work
[05:23] <gravemind> JamesBee1: good luck, I have to run
[05:23] <ElllisD> gnite all-
[05:23] <Negima> in preferences, go to the video tab
[05:23] <Negima> and try changing the driver to gl or gl2
[05:23] <eck> _Krull_: what part do you need help with?
[05:23] <JamesBee1> negima: it works, just poor support for going back and forth in the video
[05:24] <_Krull_> keeping my Windows intact and puting in a partition for ubunto, I choose manual
[05:24] <JamesBee1> think changing to gl or gl2 will help?
[05:24] <puff> Anybody know how to reformat an ipod nano?
[05:24] <Negima> after i installed mplayer, i tried to play a dvd, adn it wouldnt work
[05:25] <eck> puff: isn't it the same as any other external device?
[05:25] <puff> Beyond the initial mkfst -t vfat /dev/sdb2
[05:25] <Negima> i changed the video driver to gl2, and it works fine
[05:25] <puff> eck: As a USB drive, it's just a USB drive.
[05:25] <Negima> could anyone perhaps help me get my sound working? im using an onboard soundcard.
[05:25] <bakefy> windows wont let me connect to samba share when the password is nothing.  how can I either set a username and password or remove authentication?
[05:25] <eck> yes, so after the mkfs command you have reformatted it, correct?
[05:25] <puff> eck: I'm trying to figure out if I can do the rest of it under linux, or if I have to go hunt up a win/mac box to run apple's ipod updatter.
[05:26] <n-iCe> Hi exist something to read the power point files?
[05:26] <n-iCe> i'm using xubuntu
[05:26] <eck> puff: i would just do that, i don't know if the linux tools can recreate the files the ipod software wants from scratch
[05:26] <puff> eck: After the mkfs you have finished reformatting your usb drive, yes, but you have not finished reformatting your ipod :-).
[05:26] <rbil> bakefy: read this about setting up a samba user: http://www.samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm
[05:26] <puff> eck: Bah, humbug, I was hoping to do it all under linux.
[05:26] <puff> eck:  Okay, thanks.
[05:26] <eck> puff: you can try gtkpod though
[05:26] <n-iCe> How can i read them ?
[05:26] <eck> i just wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work
[05:27] <eck> n-iCe: you have to use openoffice
[05:27] <n-iCe> eck,  than you very much, can i find it in symnaptic ?
[05:27] <puff> eck: Hm, interesting.  Disconnected it and the ipod software came up, all the music is gone.
[05:27] <Negima> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[05:27] <bakefy> rbil off tangent... I just got a netfirms hosting and I hate it.
[05:27] <ljlolel> !flash
[05:27] <eck> n-iCe: it should be installed by default
[05:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:27] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:27] <puff> eck: So maybe that's all I needed to do... hm.
[05:27] <n-iCe> eck,  really ? let me check
[05:27] <eck> puff: i guess the ipod is smart enough to do it itself :-)
[05:27] <ljlolel> !backports
[05:27] <arctanx> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on a celeron 600/128mb ram, but it spends ages thrashing around trying to load up gnome and after about half an hour freezes completely. is there any other way to do the installation?
[05:27] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:28] <eck> arctanx: use the alternate install cd
[05:28] <arctanx> (that's booting off the desktop cd, naturally)
[05:28] <arctanx> eck: thanks, I'll look into it
[05:28] <puff> eck: Well, I'm guessing that the nano isn't like the full-sized ipod, which apparently keeps the firmware in the first 32MB of the disk partition.  Guess the nano keeps it elsewehre.
[05:28] <eck> arctanx: i think the issue is that you don't have enough ram and there is no swap space, so the kernel keeps on killing the new processes that are being started
[05:28] <stealth_> since i installed edgy
[05:28] <arctanx> eck: sounds likely
[05:28] <stealth_> can i play computer games from the store still
[05:29] <eck> the alternate install is text based so there should be no memory issue
[05:29] <rpc> what can be wrong if i get no output from hostname -f or -s ? it hangs then
[05:29] <_Krull_> <--is waiting
[05:29] <abasinisvacant> hello, do i have to be connected to the internet in order to install dapper?
[05:29] <tommyv> hi i have a 2nd hard drive installed and i was wondering how i can mount it?
[05:29] <rpc> and box has no networking it seems
[05:29] <rpc> even though eth0 is up
[05:29] <arctanx> thanks
[05:30] <ljlolel> I can't find flashplugin-nonfree in my Edgy distro
[05:30] <ljlolel> I have edgy-backports in sources.list and i apt-get updated
[05:30] <eck> _Krull_: the partitioning tool will keep your data intact if you choose to resize the windows partition
[05:30] <eck> no special work is needed
[05:30] <eck> ljlolel: you need multiverse
[05:30] <tommyv> how does one go about mounting two hard drives in ubuntu?
[05:30] <Faithful> what could I use to set up a global address book for a network?
[05:31] <n-iCe> eck,  isn't there
[05:31] <n-iCe> and i couldn't find it
[05:31] <ljlolel> eck, I have universe and multiverse also
[05:31] <eck> n-iCe: try running ooimpress from the command line
[05:31] <_Krull_> So I just choose forward after highlighting unallocated?
[05:31] <n-iCe> ooimpress ? in the terminal ?
[05:31] <eck> n-iCe: if it doesn't exist, the package name is openoffice.org-impress
[05:32] <_Krull_> I am at step 5 of 6
[05:32] <n-iCe> wait wait i'm new i need to write in the terminal sudo apt-get openoffice.org-impress ??
[05:32] <bakefy> I know that before I just added something (changed) the samba.conf file and then Windows could connect to the drive/
[05:32] <eck> yes
[05:32] <eck> that is correct
[05:32] <eck> err
[05:32] <eck> apt-get install
[05:32] <tommyv> anyone know how to mount a 2nd hard drive in ubuntu?
[05:32] <eck> sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-impress
[05:33] <n-iCe> eck,  ok than you !
[05:33] <eck> tommyv: use mount
[05:33] <n-iCe> thank ill check
[05:33] <eck> it is the same as mounting anything else
[05:33] <bakefy> what do I need to do to take authentication off the samba share?
[05:33] <n-iCe> eck,  any idea how can i install my lexmark 1100 printer ?
[05:34] <n-iCe> I couldn't find nothing
[05:34] <eck> n-iCe: i do not know what the xubuntu tool for cups is called
[05:34] <eck> n-iCe: in principle though that will provide you with a gui to configure the printer
[05:34] <n-iCe> uhm ok thank you what do you mean qith cups ?
[05:35] <eck> cups is the print system
[05:35] <n-iCe> eck,  i'm new then i don't know what do you mean =p
[05:36] <eck> n-iCe: setting up printers is kind of tricky, i would look in the forums for your printer model
[05:36] <n-iCe> lexmark 1100 , thank you i was searching nothing found :/
[05:36] <ljlolel> Where do i get flashplugin-nonfree,  I have apt-get updated with a sources.list  that includes universe/multiverse/edgy-backports... ?
[05:37] <eck> ljlolel: pastebin your sources.list
[05:38] <ljlolel> eck, http://pastebin.ca/377965
[05:38] <puff> eck: Hm, it appears ubuntu is no longer automounting the ipod.  Curious.
[05:38] <corevette> I have a PCI card that has firewire slots on it....do you think this will work on Ubuntu?
[05:39] <gump44> does anyone know if linux 6.10 has a built in firewall software
[05:40] <shorty114> what happened to the live cd?
[05:40] <ljlolel> gump44, firestarter is the normal firewall
[05:40] <shorty114> or is it all just one cd now?
[05:40] <ljlolel> do you mean , does it automatically install firestarter?
[05:40] <eck> woah, earthquake
[05:40] <gump44> does it?
[05:40] <mistone> LOL EARTHQUAKE
[05:40] <ljlolel> i don't think so... iwas running feisty -- ihad to install firestarter myself
[05:40] <eck> just now
[05:41] <jhornick> where at?
[05:41] <ljlolel> which was just apt-get install firestarter
[05:41] <eck> berkeley, ca
[05:41] <mistone> WORD UP
[05:41] <ljlolel> big one?
[05:41] <puff> gump44: What do you mean by firewall software?  If you mean can it do packet filtering at the tcp/ip stack level, then yes, there are a variety of packages to do that, starting iwth the classic tcp chains, and tcp/ip filtering, and now for more specialized aps.
[05:41] <mistone> I am on the falut line lolz
[05:41] <jhornick> if he gets knocked off yes
[05:41] <mistone> I am shaksing s lolz
[05:41] <eck> not too big, but it scared me :-P
[05:41] <mistone> dude my hands are shaking
[05:41] <puff> eck: Get under the desk.   Take your computer with you :-).
[05:41] <jhornick> I sleep through them when they happen usually, but im near chichago
[05:41] <mistone> oh shi\t aftershake
[05:41] <jhornick> not that I can spell chicago
[05:41] <ljlolel> interesting -- i live in an area which is hurricane prone -- seems better than random earthquakes
[05:41] <gump44> the problem I am having is when I type www.yahoo.com it won't access the website---only with ubuntu this is a problem--any ideas?
[05:42] <mistone> or thats just me
[05:42] <ljlolel> gump44, only yahoo?
[05:42] <eck> puff: lol
[05:42] <eck> it just showed up on the usgs site, but no magnitude yet
[05:42] <gump44> a few other sites but mostly yahoo
[05:43] <puff> I'm subscribed to a mailing list that is for bay area folks (because I knew a lot of the folks on the list and was spending some time in the bay a few years back, and never unsubscribed) they tend to post when quakes come through.  It's interesting, has changed my perception of how often they occur.
[05:43] <gump44> what do you think ljlolel?
[05:43] <eck> normally there is one you can feel every few months
[05:44] <puff> eck:  Okay, so apparently my reformat wasn't as successful as I thought it was.  I had to manually mount the nano and thne when I opened it with gtkpod or with amarok, it has old fiels on it.
[05:44] <gump44> not accessing yahoo is this a dns problem?
[05:45] <K3nto> is there a way to search multiple packages at the same time?
[05:45] <eck> puff: weird, reformatting it should destroy all the files
[05:45] <n-iCe> eck, : http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X1185 check this
[05:45] <puff> Okay, well my friend with the mac is here, maybe I'll just have him try reformatting it iwth ipod updater.
[05:45] <D13GU> hi all.
[05:46] <n-iCe> could work ?
[05:46] <eck> magnitude was 4.4
[05:46] <D13GU> ubuntu is a good option for servers?
[05:46] <Naik0> hey how do i start gimp in english?
[05:46] <K3nto> i have a huge list of packages to get
[05:46] <K3nto> and to paste all of them individually into the search seems really trivial
[05:46] <jhornick> pfft I only found 4.2 on mag
[05:46] <FlippantBird> how can i tell if im using aiglx or xgl?
[05:46] <ljlolel> dunno what that could be -- it could
[05:46] <corevette> how do you install vmware player
[05:46] <Chicory_> Oh, uh --
[05:47] <cefx> ubuntu is good if all you need/want is a quick easy setup d13egu.
[05:47] <cefx> It gives you LAMP.
[05:47] <Chicory_> I want to get an nvidia card capable of handing WoW in Linx via CrossOver.
[05:47] <bimberi> K3nto: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3 ...
[05:47] <brianski> hmm
[05:47] <cefx> linux, apache, mysql and php.
[05:47] <Chicory_> *Linux
[05:47] <Chicory_> How cheap can I really go?
[05:47] <bimberi> !vmware-player
[05:47] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:47] <cefx> I'd reccomend FreeBSD, Slackware or Gentoo for a server.
[05:47] <brianski> so it seems dpkg is completely happy to remove xserver-xorg-video-all, but apt-get insists you need to apt-get -f install (which install xserver-xorg-video-all)
[05:48] <FlippantBird> how can i tell if im using aiglx or xgl?
[05:48] <cefx> Chicory_: check their system requirements, WoW is supported in Cedega
[05:48] <eck> jhornick: what do you mean?
[05:48] <Pelo> FlippantBird,  intel chip ?   aiglx
[05:48] <jhornick> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40194055.htm
[05:48] <FlippantBird> ati
[05:48] <eck> oh
[05:48] <bimberi> corevette: enable the universe and multiverse repositories and it will be available in the package manager
[05:48] <puff> eck:  Bah, it's a permissions thing.  I can copy files to the ipod using sudo, but not via gtkpod (which starts as non-root).  Hm.
[05:48] <bakefy> I have tried about everything, what do I need to edit in the samba.conf to share to windows without authentication?
[05:48] <eck> i guess it just changed
[05:48] <jhornick> cefx: what? gentoo on a server?
[05:48] <eck> it was 4.4 a minute ago
[05:48] <cefx> jhornick: gentoo-hardened as a web server, yes
[05:48] <d13egu> cefx why?
[05:49] <jhornick> gentoo does bleeding edge/unstable you can use it on a dev server, but I wouldn't put it on a production server
[05:49] <eck> gentoo hardened is such an abomination
[05:49] <cefx> d13egu: FreeBSD is what I use on my web server, and it has something similar to portage called "ports"
[05:49] <eck> it is seriously a dead end
[05:49] <FlippantBird> how can i tell if im using aiglx or xgl?
[05:49] <eck> just use fedora or ubuntu which has stack protection on anyway
[05:49] <d13egu> cefx yes, the Ports is very good
[05:49] <Chistery> Sorry for crashing; I couldn't read your recommendations.
[05:49] <cefx> eww Fedora :P
[05:50] <cefx> use Freebsd for a webserver.
[05:50] <jlgaddis> Fedora?  Server?  No, thanks.
[05:50] <magic_ninja> hey are the new nvidia glx and kernel mods updates working?
[05:50] <FlippantBird> im a total noob, dont know wtf im doing please help
[05:50] <Pelo> FlippantBird,  this might help
[05:50] <K3nto> anybody know for  package download script for WoW?
[05:50] <rbil> FlippantBird: what type of graphics card are u using?
[05:50] <Chistery> How cheap CAN I go with nvidia cards while still maintaining a woW support.
[05:50] <Pelo> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_GC_Drivers
[05:50] <d13egu> jlgaddis lol
[05:50] <cefx> I guess you could use ubuntu as a server, but ubuntu is meant as a desktop
[05:50] <FlippantBird> radeon 9600
[05:50] <Chistery> *?
[05:50] <eck> lol, well, gentoo isn't much better
[05:50] <cefx> gentoo is far better than crapora
[05:50] <cefx> :p
[05:50] <magic_ninja> too much compiling
[05:50] <K3nto> !SPM
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <rbil> FlippantBird: ati uses xgl
[05:50] <K3nto> !script
[05:50] <d13egu> bsd is complicate no?
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <eck> we use gentoo at work on the dev servers, and it is a major pita
[05:50] <jlgaddis> With the exception of a Gentoo SQL server and a Debian box as a loghost, all my production boxes are running RHEL.
[05:51] <n-iCe> Where can i downlaod : CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.GZ
[05:51] <peeps> anyone else experiencing difficulties with gmail all day?
[05:51] <Chicory_> Guys, sorry that I crashed earlier.
[05:51] <progrock> anyone have a radeon mobility 9000 and has gotten display drivers to work smoothly?
[05:51] <d13egu> jlgaddis ow yes... debian is good
[05:51] <Chicory_> What did you say regarding nvidia cards again?
[05:51] <eck> gentoo doesn't really backport security fixes, so you usually have to upgrade to get them
[05:51] <concept10> Anyone know how to turn autoremove off? this in annoying.. see screenshot: http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1uj7.png
[05:52] <FlippantBird> rbil is there a command to check?
[05:52] <progrock> i forgot to mention.. using feisty fawn
[05:52] <d13egu> in link: http://shadowmage.plinkomedia.com/images/screenshots/FreeBSD-2002-Feb-07.jpg what a X windows manager?
[05:52] <Hirvinen> cefx: Why not use Ubuntu as a server? Without the desktop parts, it's basically Debian with more company backing.
[05:52] <FlippantBird> im pretty sure im not using ati drivers
[05:52] <rbil> FlippantBird: u could try a locate xgl and see if anything comes up :-)
[05:52] <jlgaddis> Hirvinen: Perhaps now that they have LTS, but I wouldn't run a non-LTS version of Ubuntu on production boxes.
[05:52] <Chicory_> Guys?
[05:53] <cefx> Hirvinen: Too much hold your hand type stuff, I'd rather be 100% certain and rely on my own work in setting up/securing a machine.
[05:53] <FlippantBird> how can i tell what driver is being used?
[05:53] <K3nto> !package download script
[05:53] <concept10> Hirvinen, with more company backing?  how uninformed
[05:53] <cefx> We have no idea what you said, Cihcory
[05:53] <jlgaddis> Chicory_: We didn't say anything, we're ignoring you.
[05:53] <riotkitt1e> omgohnoeeees!!1! :ahem: GRUB's currently acting as if it is possessed. it's not giving me a menu when i boot, and is loading Ubuntu immediately, instead. I've made no changes to the system, and I have gone over menu.lst - it reads the way it should. What gives?
[05:53] <timfrost> n-iCe: Google search returns http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:389:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1151&searchLang=en&searchLang=en
[05:53] <cefx> Chicory too
[05:53] <eck> i don't know of anyone who is actually using ubuntu in a production environment
[05:54] <jlgaddis> eck: Neither do I.
[05:54] <jhornick> riot: #hiddenmenu
[05:54] <Chicory_> I said I was planning on migrating from ATI to Nvidia, and wanted to know if anyone had any suggestions.
[05:54] <eck> it is hard to get people to switch in that space
[05:54] <Naik0> hey how can i start gimp in english instead of swedish?
[05:54] <JNeverMind> do any ubuntus come with 2.6.18?
[05:54] <ljlolel> here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/377977  -- i update, but i can't see flashplugin-nonfree !!
[05:54] <K3nto> oh ok sorry
[05:54] <Hirvinen> concept10: Well, "more" was a bad choice of words. But the company backing Ubuntu is much closer to it than any company providing Debian support.
[05:54] <K3nto> a package download script for WINE
[05:54] <jlgaddis> Hirvinen: Perhaps because the kind of sysadmins who are running Debian don't generally need their hands held?
[05:54] <concept10> Hirvinen, HP provides debian support.  So does Dell.
[05:54] <Pelo> JNeverMind,  we're up to <IP_ADDRESS> right now
[05:54] <riotkitt1e> jhornick: hiddenmenu is commented out, as it should be. like i said, menu.lst is fine :P
[05:55] <cefx> Sun is backing Ubuntu, concept10.
[05:55] <cefx> That's pretty significant :)
[05:55] <cefx> one the world's largest server hardware providers.
[05:55] <jhornick> riotkittie: what is the timeout at?
[05:55] <concept10> cefx, Sun backs debian also
[05:55] <JNeverMind> im having trouble install ubuntu on asus p5b with jmb363 sata
[05:55] <eck> i think the big issue is that if you wanted company support, you'd just go with RHEL which has been proven better and gives you some more options for enterprise solutions
[05:55] <Hirvinen> jlgaddis, cefx: How exactly is an Ubuntu server administrators hand held in ways not done in Debian?
[05:55] <JNeverMind> jmicron site says use 2.6.18 at least
[05:55] <Naik0> someone now how i can start gimp in english?
[05:56] <cefx> Hirvinen: did I mention using Debian at all?
[05:56] <riotkitt1e> jhornick: 5. but i cant imagine that that matters as it's always been 5, and i've never not gotten the menu
[05:56] <jlgaddis> Hirvinen: I wouldn't run Ubuntu in production.  I don't really care to do massive upgrades of all my servers every six months.
[05:56] <jhornick> well if its 0 it auto boots
[05:56] <cefx> I'll use Debian when 4.0 it's out
[05:56] <jlgaddis> Hirvinen: I'm quite happy with my production RHEL servers, knowing they're supported for 5-7 years.
[05:56] <Hirvinen> cefx: Well, you didn't but you mentioned hand-holding.
[05:56] <cefx> is*
[05:56] <nexousNET> How do I put XFWM4 into my ubuntu?
[05:56] <jhornick> well if those are as you say, them im not sure offhand
[05:57] <cefx> Hirvinen: yep..hence why I prefer FreeBSD (i don't really use ports), slackware and gentoo.
[05:57] <K3nto> wow sorrry guys. i seem to ask questions before i read
[05:57] <d13egu> slackware i love it. :)
[05:57] <Hirvinen> jlgaddis: No one forces upgrades every six months. The normal releases are supported for 18 months on the desktop and for 36 on the server.
[05:57] <Naik0> someone now how i can start gimp in english?
[05:57] <FlippantBird> rbil, $ beryl-xgl reports "Detected xserver   : AIGLX"
[05:57] <cefx> lol
[05:57] <riotkitt1e> ugh. i'm not getting this at all. its so weird. :\
[05:57] <cefx> sometimes exploits, bugs and vulnerabilities forces upgrades, Hirvinen.
[05:58] <concept10> Anyone arguing about running the newest release of Ubuntu on a server doesnt know the first thing about being a sys admin.  Unless you need to support a particular hardware platform, in that case you could use back ported kernels
[05:58] <Hirvinen> jlgaddis: And then there's LTS where even longer upgrade cycle is desired.
[05:58] <n-iCe> what are:  	AIX, AIX 3.1.5, AIX 3.2, AIX 4.1, AIX 4.2.1, AIX 4.3.3, AIX 5.1
[05:58] <n-iCe> are compatibles with xubuntu ?
[05:58] <vrkhans> hi
[05:58] <cefx> yeah
[05:58] <eck> n-iCe: another operating system (unix)
[05:58] <riotkitt1e> oh wait. i just figured it out. <blushes profusely>
[05:58] <rbil> FlippantBird: I think AIGLX comes standard on Edgy now
[05:58] <vrkhans> i am trying to share my windows partitio in linux
[05:58] <puff> Hirvinen: IRRC, doens't ubuntu backport all security fixes to the older versions as well?
[05:58] <d13egu> the xubuntu for desktop is perfect
[05:58] <puff> Or is that just debian.
[05:58] <vrkhans> but i wont able to access it
[05:58] <FlippantBird> rbil: how do i switch to xgl?
[05:58] <n-iCe> doesn't work with xubuntu then ?
[05:58] <jhornick> what wm comes with xubuntu?
[05:59] <eck> concept10: wikipedia runs the latest fedora releases on their production servers, which is even more insane :-P
[05:59] <vrkhans> because it is own by root
[05:59] <Hirvinen> cefx: Those things *are* patched onto older versions as long as they are supported.
[05:59] <cefx> riotkitt1e: what did you just figure out?
[05:59] <riotkitt1e> xubuntu doesnt impressive me. xfce on ubuntu is ungodly slow. i've seen better presentations :P
[05:59] <vrkhans> i dont know how i can get permission for that as a user
[05:59] <jlgaddis> eck: Hhe, that's ironic, considering Fedora is moving all their servers to RHEL.  =)
[05:59] <puff> Come to think of it, I"m pretty sure it's debian that does that, and maybe ubuntu does the same.  Ubuntu certainly seems aggressive about contribuging bug fixes back upstream to debian.
[05:59] <concept10> eck, yes, real insane, unless they keep and patch things themselves
[05:59] <riotkitt1e> cefx: why i wasnt getting a GRUB menu
[05:59] <eck> and digg is using debian testing on production *gasp*
[05:59] <rbil> FlippantBird: probably best to /join #ubuntu-effects      to get help
[05:59] <Hirvinen> concept10: Did I say that the newest release should be used?
[05:59] <vrkhans> share my windows partion in liunx
[05:59] <FlippantBird> rbil ill try, thank you
[05:59] <vrkhans> help me
[06:00] <cefx> Hirvinen: regardless, I like my FreeBSD and slackware on servers, and gentoo on my boxes...and maybe kubuntu on a desktop :)
[06:00] <concept10> Hirvinen, to your credit, I didnt see you say that.  I was just making a point.
[06:00] <d13egu> cefx ;P
[06:00] <eck> actually, i went to a talk by the head dba at digg, and he was not happy with that situation
[06:00] <puff> eck: Why not?
[06:00] <K3nto> how would i use the script for wine?
[06:00] <puff> eck: And did his sysadmin agree with him? :-).
[06:01] <K3nto> http://kegel.com/wine/edgy.sh
[06:01] <Negima> it would seem that ALSA doesnt support my soundcard, or something of that nature. when i go to system->prefs->sounds, it comes up as Intel ICH
[06:02] <d13egu> cefx and debian, not like?
[06:02] <anonymeeee> is there a wiki page for burning iso images onto cd's?
[06:02] <anonymeeee> how do I burn iso images?
[06:02] <eck> i don't think he was pleased with the idea of new barely-tested software landing in production every day... my understanding is that the people who started the company didn't really know what they were doing, and then when digg got big they hired a bunch of people with experience who have spent the last year or so trying to fix all the mistakes they inherited
[06:02] <K3nto> do i simply copy "apt -get install /"
[06:02] <n-iCe> i need to write in the terminal:  su and my password
[06:02] <K3nto> and all the libraries under it in the terminal?
[06:02] <vrkhans> hi can any one help me
[06:02] <Hirvinen> cefx: Of course you are free to choose whatever you wish, but I see few reasons why Ubuntu would be unsuitable for a server.
[06:03] <n-iCe> i did it and say this:  Password:
[06:03] <n-iCe> su: Authentication failure
[06:03] <n-iCe> why ?
[06:03] <cefx> that's your opinion ;D
[06:03] <cefx> n-iCe: sudo su -
[06:03] <jhornick> su with no argument requires roots password
[06:03] <bimberi> anonymeeee: right-click-> write to disc
[06:03] <vrkhans> i am looking to share my windows partition in linux
[06:03] <jhornick> sudo needs the users, and sudo permissions
[06:03] <n-iCe> thank you
[06:03] <vrkhans> i dont know how, that partition is already mounted
[06:04] <puff> eck:  That typically happens, and not necessarily because the people there at the start didn't know any better, though that is a part of it.
[06:04] <anonymeeee> wow, thanks bimberi...I like it when it doesn't reading through 2 hours of instructions!
[06:05] <puff> eck: To rephrase, you take a lot of shortcuts and you wear a lot of hats in a small company, and then when you make it, you staff up and the new hires come in and shriek about how unprofessional your setup is.
[06:05] <Hirvinen> concept10: By the way, any newest release should be comparable to latest release of Debian after a similar time, which is usually considered fit for production use some time after the release.
[06:05] <bimberi> anonymeeee: np :)
[06:05] <puff> eck: Sometims they're right and yo learn something, sometimes they're right and you knew it but you had to livef with the compromise, sometimes they're idiots.
[06:05] <puff> eck: Er, that latter should be sometimes they're technically adept, but naive, and finalyl sometime they're just opinionated idiots.
[06:06] <BUMBACLOT> Added the following hosts to /etc/hosts.deny:
[06:06] <BUMBACLOT> <IP_ADDRESS> (eul0001102-pip.eu.verio.net)
[06:06] <Hirvinen> concept10: (Of course with the exception of Edgy, lower stability stability and polish standards of which were pretty much accepted since some time after the postponing of Dapper's release date.)
[06:06] <BUMBACLOT> wtf?
[06:06] <eck> puff: this is kind of interesting... i am a student, but i am doing SA intern work at a startup
[06:06] <concept10> Hirvinen, a new kernel release may work, have more features/drivers etc, but if you dont need them, there is no point in using it.  I try to keep as many holes closed as possible
[06:06] <K3nto> should "apt-get install cvs git-core cogito" just go straight into terminal?
[06:06] <puff> eck:  Ah, well, I started a small software company, it's doing okay but it grew and I left.
[06:06] <eck> we just got acquired by a big company (yahoo), and have spent the last six months trying to integrate into their systems, and it is a nightmare
[06:06] <puff> eck: I'll be happy to talk more about it sometime, privately.
[06:07] <rpc> where can i find fast packet switching in kernel conf?
[06:07] <puff> eck: It's always a nightmare :-).
[06:07] <rpc> can't see that one anywhere
[06:07] <eck> lol
[06:07] <Chicory_> !nvidia
[06:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning all.
[06:07] <K3nto> can somebody help me with some simple scripts?
[06:07] <vrkhans> this is how my fstab and my window partion is mounted : /media/hda4     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[06:07] <Chicory_> Oh, blacklisted modules go where again?
[06:07] <nexousNET> Okay, I started to follow "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88393"
[06:07] <Pelo> so BENN92647  did you manage to get it working ?
[06:07] <concept10> Hirvinen, but I can't really comment on the latest Ubuntu kernels (for production server use)  I only use Sarge with a 2.4 with backported fixes.  It never goes down.  Ive seen some Ubuntu patched kernels crash with Xen
[06:08] <nexousNET> I'm going from Metacity -> XFwm4, I started it back up
[06:08] <Hirvinen> concept10: Of course newer than necessary shouldn't be used where stability is important.
[06:08] <BENN92647> pelo- its not windows XP familare is that for spain or something
[06:08] <nexousNET> and metacity is still in place.
[06:08] <vrkhans> now i can get permission for detult user
[06:08] <K3nto> eck: can you help me out?
[06:08] <Cuddles_in_KY> little ati problem. running 6.10, i have the ati drivers loaded, but composite out [this will eventually be a mythtv setup]  is rolling vertically. any suggestions on fixing this? i've been all over the forums, and tried several solutions to no avail.
[06:08] <concept10> Hirvinen, well, now we agree
[06:08] <eck> K3nto: with what?
[06:08] <ljlolel> here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/377977  -- i update, but i can't see flashplugin-nonfree !!
[06:08] <Pelo> BENN92647,  it's just a title, you can change that  (it's french) it does not affect the boot
[06:08] <K3nto> just some scripts that are giving me errors
[06:08] <nexousNET> and when i kill metacity it starts back up
[06:08] <ljlolel> how do i get flash?
[06:09] <BENN92647> I have a hard drive with windows XP Pro I need it to show up on my boot list can someone tell me what I need to call it
[06:09] <eck> what kind of script?
[06:09] <K3nto> http://kegel.com/wine/edgy.sh
[06:09] <BENN92647> ok
[06:09] <Pelo> !flash | ljlolel
[06:09] <ubotu> ljlolel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <K3nto> it tells me what packages to download for wine
[06:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:09] <mitsuikun> ljlolel, download flash
[06:09] <mitsuikun> then cd to flash-installer directory
[06:09] <BENN92647> so if if its named familae or whatever it show still boot up right?
[06:09] <concept10> Hirvinen, I would just hate for someone to use or pick a distro over debian because they think that Ubuntu receives greater support.  Which is false.
[06:09] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[06:09] <mitsuikun> and ./flashplayer-installer
[06:09] <Pelo> BENN92647,yes it will boot,
[06:09] <BENN92647> im geting a hall32dll error
[06:10] <ljlolel> but there are packages fo rit
[06:10] <wheels3572> how can i extract a file to a certain directory?
[06:10] <cefx> I think RHEL and Suse Enterprise get more support out of anything though.
[06:10] <nexousNET> Why is metacity still in my thing when I just installed XFwm4?
[06:10] <eck> K3nto: just run the script iwth bash
[06:10] <K3nto> !register
[06:10] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:10] <K3nto> bash?
[06:10] <cerberus> Does anyone have a lot of knowledge in setting up webcams in ubuntu? I have a webcam based on a vimicro chip and have installed the spca5xx driver but still get a blank screen when using camorama or spcagui
[06:10] <eck> bash edgy.sh
[06:10] <Pelo> BENN92647, that's the windows install that's the problem,  try booting from the ide by changing the boot order in the bios , I am pretty sure you'll get the same error
[06:10] <BENN92647> ok so crap i need to go back and reinstall windows on the drive
[06:10] <eck> you need to be root
[06:10] <tunganet> anyone know how to disable the gnome panels when i run full screen apps?
[06:10] <K3nto> ARGGG
[06:10] <Pelo> BENN92647,  that is my guess,
[06:11] <K3nto> eck: how do i change to root?
[06:11] <BENN92647> ok good, then at least i can reload windows XP
[06:11] <nexousNET> Why is metacity still in my thing when I just installed XFwm4?
[06:11] <eck> K3nto: i.e. run it with sudo
[06:11] <cerberus> k3nto, sudo su
[06:11] <BENN92647> well at least linux ix xtill kicking LOL
[06:11] <BENN92647> uggh
[06:11] <cefx> K3nto: sudo su -
[06:11] <K3nto> ok so "sudo su bash edgy.sh
[06:11] <Pelo> BENN92647,  if you realy want to change the name of the menu entry you can do it with sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    just change windows xp familia for whaever you want
[06:11] <K3nto> "
[06:11] <cefx> no
[06:11] <BENN92647> you know what i mean
[06:11] <cefx> sudo su -
[06:11] <cefx> then do the command you want
[06:11] <jhornick> sudo -I
[06:11] <eck> K3nto: no, just sudo bash edgy.sh
[06:11] <K3nto> "sudo su - bash edgy.sh"
[06:12] <jhornick> lowercase i
[06:12] <cefx> no
[06:12] <BENN92647> no its cool I like the european touch LOL
[06:12] <cefx> sudo su -
[06:12] <cefx> THEN
[06:12] <cefx> bash edgy.sh
[06:12] <concept10> cefx, you need to read this article" http://lwn.net/Articles/222773/
[06:12] <ljlolel> this page tells me that flash is in a package, but it doesn't exist on my system
[06:12] <BENN92647> be back in a few
[06:12] <cefx> seperate commands K3nto
[06:12] <cefx> :p
[06:12] <cefx> su -
[06:12] <cerberus> sorry k3nto, lots ofways to do the same thing
[06:12] <eck> cefx: err, sudo -i is a better way to do that
[06:12] <Pelo> BENN92647,  Canadian,  just keep at it , see if you get anymore help from me :-)
[06:12] <cefx> changes to root but keeps your current shell
[06:12] <jlgaddis> "sudo -s"  =)
[06:12] <cefx> eck: oic
[06:12] <K3nto> okay i get it
[06:12] <benjoldersma> does anyone have any suggestions for getting vmplayer to bridge networking connections in feisty?  nat works for me, but I need to be able to access a database running in the guest os from the host, so I think I need bridging to do that.  any suggestions?
[06:12] <con-man> how do  I get linux to not manage my cd rom drive like a mac? when I press the eject button, I want it to eject now.  Not 90 seconds from now cause the device is busy
[06:12] <n-iCe> hey i need tu do this: http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/13659
[06:12] <HiDensity> problem: I boot off of an ubuntu 6.10 edgy elf disk...seems to be fine until I get to the login screen...then it seems that there is a small window in the center screen...but it is all scrambled
[06:12] <n-iCe> I'm in : cd /media/sda1/domingo/lexmark
[06:12] <Cuddles_in_KY> little ati problem. running 6.10, the video card is an ati 9550. i have the ati drivers loaded, but composite out [this will eventually be a mythtv setup]  is rolling vertically. any suggestions on fixing this? i've been all over the forums, and tried several solutions to no avail.
[06:13] <jhornick> there is still tcp that is useable for db access right?
[06:13] <n-iCe> but i had this error: root@torro-desktop:~# cd /media/sda1/domingo/lexmark
[06:13] <n-iCe> -su: cd: /media/sda1/domingo/lexmark: No existe el fichero  directorio
[06:13] <benjoldersma> jhornick: I can't connect over tcp
[06:13] <nexousNET> Anyone know how to get rid of metacity?
[06:13] <n-iCe> what should i do ?
[06:13] <benjoldersma> jhornick: because the ip is NAt'd I think
[06:13] <jhornick> that directory or file doesn't exist
[06:13] <ljlolel> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:13] <ljlolel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:13] <ljlolel> is only available from another source
[06:13] <Pelo> what is the usual port number for a newsreader ?
[06:13] <jlgaddis> Pelo: 119
[06:14] <jhornick> so, a vmware image will let you get around that how?
[06:14] <K3nto> eck: didnt work
[06:14] <Pelo> jlgaddis,  do you use pan ?
[06:14] <eck> K3nto: ok, just do this:
[06:14] <jlgaddis> Pelo: I have, but I don't very often.
[06:14] <K3nto> eck let me register then we can pm
[06:14] <eck> sudo apt-get builddep wine
[06:14] <Pelo> jlgaddis,  I get a no connection message,   any idea ?
[06:14] <K3nto> !register
[06:14] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:14] <eck> K3nto: that will basically install all the things the script would have
[06:14] <cerberus> Ok, does anyone know where I might find some fairly detailed informatino on how to get a webcam working after the usual avenues have been exhausted?
[06:14] <K3nto> okay
[06:15] <jlgaddis> Pelo: service is down, firewall in the way, could be a number of things
[06:15] <rbil> how can I get a more detailed bootup in Edgy, rather than just a sliding bar?
[06:15] <HiDensity> does ubuntu support nvidia 7800 GT?
[06:15] <Pelo> jlgaddis, ok , thanks, I'll wait to see what my isp has to say about it
[06:15] <eck> con-man: the cd cannot be ejected until all the applications using it have been stopped, it sounds like some app you are using sucks
[06:15] <Pelo> cerberus,  did you try the forum ?
[06:15] <eck> con-man: you can find out what it is with fuser and file a bug report
[06:16] <con-man> eck: how come windows doesnt have this issue
[06:16] <cerberus> had a look around, some people had issues with webcams using the same chip but resolved them simply, the same steps while improving the situation don't fix things for me
[06:16] <eck> con-man: i think in windows you can unmount a read  only file system even if it is being used, i am not sure
[06:16] <n-iCe> can any help me ?
[06:16] <nexousNET> I do apt-get remove metacity, and it says its still installed
[06:16] <eck> it is just a tradeoff of whether you want to do things cautiously or not
[06:16] <con-man> eck: its just that now whenever I put a cd into a drive, it wont read it anymore
[06:17] <jhornick> it keeps you from accidentally removing it at least
[06:17] <Pelo> !es | n-iCe
[06:17] <ubotu> n-iCe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <eck> con-man: it won't read new CDs at all?
[06:17] <jhornick> I know I hit the button on my laptop a shite ton
[06:17] <rbil> con-man will the eject command from a terminal eject the cd?
[06:17] <Cuddles_in_KY> little ati problem. running 6.10, the video card is an ati 9550. i have the ati drivers loaded, but composite out [this will eventually be a mythtv setup]  is rolling vertically. any suggestions on fixing this? i've been all over the forums, and tried several solutions to no avail.
[06:17] <con-man> rbil: no
[06:17] <con-man> eck: no
[06:17] <wheels3572> How do I extract a file to a specific directory?
[06:17] <eck> con-man: that sounds like a driver/kernel issue to me
[06:18] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone tried to remove gnome-games ?
[06:18] <con-man> eck: Imma pastebinning my ps -A
[06:18] <eck> check dmesg
[06:18] <K3nto> eck: PMs
[06:18] <yell0w> hey guys, removing gnome-games requires removing ubuntu-desktop, which is kind of weird
[06:18] <bh_> Is the next release worth using now ?
[06:18] <yell0w> !_!
[06:18] <Pelo> jlgaddis, do you know anything about autentification errors ? in pan ?
[06:18] <bh_> or is it pretty broken ?
[06:19] <con-man> eck: that commant spits out more than my terminal can scroll!
[06:19] <eck> con-man: only the end is imporantt
[06:19] <nexousNET> woot, can I get some help on going from metacity-> XFWM4 before I screw up my ubuntu even more?
[06:19] <eck> it should show you the last things the kernel did that it thought was interesting
[06:19] <Cuddles_in_KY> little ati problem. running 6.10, the video card is an ati 9550. i have the ati drivers loaded, but composite out [this will eventually be a mythtv setup]  is rolling vertically. any suggestions on fixing this? i've been all over the forums, and tried several solutions to no avail.
[06:20] <Cuddles_in_KY> can someone please help me?
[06:20] <con-man> eck: my ps -A http://pastebin.ca/377997
[06:20] <con-man> eck: my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/377998
[06:20] <wheels3572> Cuddles_in_KY, do you have the latest drivers from AMD for your ATI driver?
[06:20] <eck> con-man: it is totem
[06:21] <eck> totem is a zombie
[06:21] <eck> and it probably has a FD on the cd drive
[06:21] <Cuddles_in_KY> wheels3572: yes, installed.
[06:21] <con-man> eck: it wont let me kill a defunct process tho
[06:21] <Negima> can someone help me get my sound working?
[06:21] <nowhere> hi, is there anyone available that has a Linksys WMP54G wireless card?
[06:21] <wheels3572> Cuddles_in_KY, Ok hmmmmmm
[06:21] <eck> con-man: of course not, that's why it's defunct!
[06:21] <Negima> for some reason, my sound card wont work with ALSA or OSS
[06:21] <con-man> eck: so how do I make it go away
[06:21] <eck> con-man: what is the ppid?
[06:21] <eck> you can try killing the parent
[06:21] <Negima> i have to go to system->prefs->sound
[06:21] <con-man> 9157
[06:21] <eck> if the parent is not important
[06:21] <Negima> and set all of them to Intel ICH
[06:22] <Cuddles_in_KY> nowhere: yes, and it sucks rocks on toast.
[06:22] <con-man> eck: how do I find the parent?
[06:22] <Negima> how do i get my sound working?
[06:22] <eck> the parent is the applicaiton whose PID is the same as totem's PPID
[06:22] <Cuddles_in_KY> wheels3572: i'm certain the problem is the vertical refresh, but no matter what i set it to, it rolls.
[06:22] <eck> try using ps -ef
[06:23] <jlgaddis> pstree
[06:23] <Negima> no one can help me get my sound working?
[06:23] <wheels3572> Cuddles_in_KY, sorry no ideas then at all
[06:23] <metalhedd> anyone use MPD? I can't connect remotely to my mpd server and i can't figure out why, it used to work under gentoo, but i can't connect to the ubuntu mpd server from another machine
[06:24] <wheels3572> Can ANY files be copied to the root aka filesystem section?
[06:24] <eck> so what happened is totem tried to end itself, but the parent is buggy and won't let it die, and probably totem has an open FD on the cd drive so you can't unmount it
[06:24] <cryedwolf> hey HELP i tryed to update my graphics drivers but its wrongly configured x server and i can't boot ubuntu
[06:24] <con-man> eck: hm
[06:25] <eck> it's kind of complicated, but that is what is causing the problem
[06:25] <wheels3572> cryedwolf, have you tried to use a previous kernel version
[06:25] <eck> and you can't kill totem so you can't force it to release the lock
[06:25] <con-man> eck: http://pastebin.ca/378006
[06:25] <Negima> can anyone help me get my sound working?
[06:25] <con-man> eck: there has to be a way to stop totem
[06:25] <eck> weird
[06:25] <jhornick> kill -s 9
[06:26] <jhornick> or 15
[06:26] <jhornick> I forget which one
[06:26] <jhornick> usually works
[06:26] <con-man> eck: what do you make of that last pastebin?
[06:26] <Negima> ...
[06:26] <eck> init should not have any zombie children
[06:26] <cryedwolf>  wheels3572 not that i know of
[06:26] <ramza3___> hmm, I think I removed the panel that holds where applications are minimized, when I minimize an app I dont have a panel that shows if it is still active or not
[06:26] <ramza3___> how do I get it back
[06:26] <DrMalo> wtf is ubuntu????
[06:26] <Negima> can no one help me??
[06:26] <con-man> eck: how do you make defunct processes go away
[06:26] <timfrost> metalhedd: by default, ubuntu doesn't let anything connect.  mpd is either not listening to the network, or is listening to localhost only.  You need to reconfigure it to listen to the network, then restart the daemon.  I don't use mpd, so don't know how to reconfigure it.
[06:26] <eck> con-man: i think it is a bug in upstart
[06:26] <jlgaddis> con-man: You reboot.
[06:26] <con-man> !ohmy | DrMalo
[06:27] <ubotu> DrMalo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:27] <posingaspopular> Negima: did you try also
[06:27] <Negima> also?
[06:27] <eck> init should ALWAYS be able to end a zombie process
[06:27] <posingaspopular> alsamixer
[06:27] <Negima> im a noob
[06:27] <con-man> jlgaddis: there has to be another option
[06:27] <eck> file a bug in launchapd
[06:27] <posingaspopular> Negima open up a konsole
[06:27] <Negima> when i select alsa as the device to use, it doesnt work
[06:27] <eck> launchpad
[06:27] <cryedwolf> plz can some one help
[06:27] <Negima> i get an error when i test
[06:27] <jhornick> what proc is going defunct on upstart?
[06:27] <posingaspopular> cryedwolf: whats the issye?
[06:27] <eck> con-man: believe it or not, there is no other way
[06:28] <Negima> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing
[06:28] <eck> you have to reboot
[06:28] <con-man> what? this is linux we are talking about
[06:28] <eck> lol
[06:28] <eck> ok, so here is what is supposed to happen
[06:28] <jhornick> he has a valid point
[06:28] <con-man> I would expect something like this from windows
[06:28] <eck> when a process ends, the parent is supposed to acknowledge this before the process can actually go away
[06:28] <eck> if the parent is buggy, you can normally fix it by killing the parent, then init becomes the parent of the child and will let the child day
[06:28] <eck> s/day/die
[06:28] <cryedwolf> i cant tell to anything else im running irc straight from unix
[06:29] <cryedwolf> *you
[06:29] <Negima> if i select Intel ICH as the device, it works
[06:29] <K3nto> wine runs more that just games right?
[06:29] <Negima> but it doesnt work with anything else
[06:29] <Negima> just that test
[06:29] <eck> but init is already the parent, so something is wrong with init, and in the case of edgy they just rewrote init (replaced it with upstart)
[06:29] <eck> so someone screwed up i think
[06:29] <con-man> oh all right, I will restart
[06:29] <con-man> >.<
[06:29] <Negima> and this is really frustrating me, and im gonna throw my monitor
[06:29] <con-man> brb
[06:30] <cryedwolf> ok how do i wipe ubuntu clean?
[06:30] <cryedwolf> im gonna start again
[06:30] <jhornick> with a squeegee
[06:30] <cryedwolf> hmm?
[06:30] <jhornick> bad humor, you can reformat the / partition
[06:31] <cryedwolf> *sigh*
[06:31] <jhornick> well if you want it clean and not just over files that's what you want to do
[06:31] <rbil> jhornick: what about regcleaner? :-)
[06:31] <jhornick> rbil: that's more comparable to a cotton swab
[06:32] <cryedwolf> regcleaner ?
[06:32] <K3nto> !players
[06:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:32] <jhornick> im guessing any random "fix your windows box" shareware
[06:33] <rbil> cryedwolf, what are u trying to do?
[06:33] <bwlang> what's the right way to make a request for a packages (accessgrid in this case)
[06:33] <K3nto> !Amarok
[06:33] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[06:33] <cryedwolf> rbill im trying to reset ubuntu
[06:33] <rbil> cryedwolf: reset it to what?
[06:34] <cryedwolf> when i first installed it
[06:34] <rbil> cryedwolf: sorry, I don't understand. why would u want to do that?
[06:35] <yomm> Hi ! I set up a small samba server and I want to add a ( samba ) user to the system  ,only for connecting to shares . I do not want this user to have a home dir ,because it's neveer gonna be used . Is this possible ?
[06:35] <cryedwolf> because the configuration for the x server is wrong i just wanna start again
[06:35] <jhornick> set the home dir to /dev/null =D
[06:35] <rbil> cryedwolf, well just fix the xorg.conf file
[06:36] <eck> con-man: is this on edgy?
[06:36] <cryedwolf> how im n00bing its out dude?
[06:36] <rbil> cryedwolf: u can't get into the gui desktop? is that your prob?
[06:37] <con-man> eck: yup
[06:37] <cryedwolf> yes im running the blackscreen
[06:37] <con-man> its all good now
[06:37] <con-man> after my restart
[06:37] <_Krull_> what is a good chat client, and its version for i386
[06:37] <jlgaddis> _Krull_: irssi
[06:37] <_Krull_> no
[06:37] <rbil> cryedwolf: but you can login, can't u?
[06:37] <jlgaddis> _Krull_: yes
[06:37] <cryedwolf> yes only in blackscn
[06:38] <_Krull_> in terminal?
[06:38] <cryedwolf> thoi
[06:38] <joincamp> all the guides i can find for ntfs-3g support point to flomertens.keo.in but i appears to be down.  can anyone verify? is there another place to get the stuff from
[06:38] <cryedwolf> yes terminal
[06:38] <rbil> cryedwold, then do this ...    sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:38] <cryedwolf> ok hold on
[06:38] <anonymeeee> how do I kill a program...
[06:39] <rbil> cryedwolf: and then try   startx
[06:39] <Negima> this no sound is frustrating me...
[06:39] <eck> con-man: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/89135
[06:39] <ToddEDM> Negima: .. i have no sound either
[06:39] <ToddEDM> new install?
[06:40] <eck> if you are interested you can register at launchpad and add a comment if you want to see if this is fixed or if the devs have any questions
[06:40] <codecaine> hi
[06:40] <anonymeeee> hi codecaine
[06:40] <anonymeeee> hellllp
[06:40] <anonymeeee> how do I kill a program?
[06:41] <K3nto> kill?
[06:41] <eck> anonymeeee: the kill command!
[06:41] <cryedwolf> ok brb ty
[06:41] <K3nto> you mean uninstall?
[06:41] <ToddEDM> im wondering if someone could help me get my video drivers installed
[06:41] <codecaine> use the command kill
[06:41] <cryedwolf> yhanx
[06:41] <tm4> ToddEDM: what card do you have
[06:41] <tm4> ?
[06:41] <cryedwolf> thanx
[06:41] <codecaine> example: kill xchat
[06:41] <eck> if kill doesn't work, try kill -9
[06:41] <jlgaddis> codecaine: No.
[06:41] <jlgaddis> "killall xchat"
[06:41] <jlgaddis> "kill" requires a pid.
[06:41] <codecaine> yea sorry
[06:42] <rbil> cryedwolf: working now? no need to reinstall the whole operating system, hey?
[06:42] <tm4> if xchat is still visible, but frozen or hung you can open a terminal "xkill" and then click on the window
[06:42] <tm4> that will kill the process, as well
[06:42] <ToddEDM> tm4 its a gforce go6100 in my laptop
[06:43] <tm4> ToddEDM I'm not familiar with nVidia as I have an ATI, but have you visited this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29   ?
[06:43] <codecaine> how do it get my usb ntfs drives to mount using ntfs-3g
[06:43] <codecaine> I did my internal hds through fstab
[06:43] <anonymeeee> how do I get the pid?
[06:43] <codecaine> I want my usb drives to automount using ntfs-3g
[06:44] <nexousNET> How do I set my windows manager?
[06:44] <Negima> can i restart alsa?
[06:44] <codecaine> anonymee ps -A
[06:44] <nexousNET> I installed XFCE4.4
[06:44] <anonymeeee> it's an archiving program
[06:44] <ToddEDM> tm4i have the drivers, i just want to install them
[06:44] <anonymeeee> it won't cancel
[06:44] <rbil> anonymeeee: another useful way to see processes and kill one is to use a program called htop
[06:44] <tm4> are they in a .deb format?
[06:45] <K3nto> if i already donwloaded the Amorak package, how cna i start it?
[06:45] <tm4> ToddEDM rather, but what type of package are they in - tar.gz, deb, etc?
[06:45] <Negima> is it possible to restart ALSA, or do i have to reboot?
[06:45] <ToddEDM> tar.gz
[06:45] <anonymeeee> how do I get htop?
[06:45] <rbil> K3nto: if u installed it from the repositories, it should now be in your menu
[06:45] <anonymeeee> is that on my system?
[06:45] <tm4> ToddEDM sorry for all of the questions, but are they pre-compiled binaries or are they source files that need to be compiled?
[06:45] <rbil> anonymeeee: sudo apt-get install htop          should do it
[06:46] <K3nto> rbil:nope
[06:46] <rbil> runs in a terminal after install
[06:46] <K3nto> or maybe i didnt
[06:46] <K3nto> i will have to chack when my terminal is don
[06:46] <K3nto> e
[06:46] <jack_deltrino> hello
[06:46] <jack_deltrino> i'm installing ubuntu edgy eft now. but i have a linksys wmp11 and no ethernet access to my system
[06:46] <ToddEDM> tm, cami pm you , the fact that my drivers arent installed, really makes it tough to  look at this screen, when its scrolling
[06:47] <tm4> sure thing
[06:47] <jack_deltrino> in the installation process, what kernel modules do i need to install to get it to work with network stuff?
[06:47] <Negima> is it possible to restart ALSA, or do i have to reboot?
[06:48] <rbil> Negima: maybe ... /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart                 just guessing
[06:49] <ToddEDM> tm4 did you get my PM?
[06:49] <dkb1> how can I format a CD-RW?
[06:49] <cryedwolf> hey again
[06:49] <tm4> no i didnt
[06:49] <jack_deltrino> anyone? please i need help installing this
[06:49] <ToddEDM> hmmm try pming me please
[06:50] <cowbud> jack_deltrino: is your wireless card supported by linux?
[06:50] <rbil> cryedwolf: how did u make out?
[06:50] <lilleman> My fresh 6.10 install keeps resetting my resolv.conf to the wrong DNS. DHCP is on, and I know the DHCP server is correctly configured
[06:50] <puff> argh... so I got a friend with a mac to use itunes to do update-and/or-restore on my nano, and then he transferred a song to it to test, and when I plugged it into my laptop it auto-mounted and amarok ran, BUT...
[06:50] <puff> ... it mounted the nano as read-only.
[06:51] <cryedwolf> dpkg is screwed cannot reconise username or password even tho i have'nt given root a password
[06:51] <ToddEDM> i think im gonna find a distro that will have the sound drivers and video drivers install themselves when i install the OS
[06:51] <ToddEDM> cause this sux
[06:52] <tm4> ToddEDM I tried to pm you. anyway, are you using a live cd??
[06:52] <ToddEDM> no im not
[06:52] <jhornick> ubuntu supports my dell laptop better than windows does
[06:52] <jhornick> which is sad shite
[06:52] <tm4> ubuntu has better support for things here on my desktop that vista does =/
[06:52] <cowbud> jack_deltrino: well answer or not you need to loook into using ndiswrapper apparently
[06:52] <jhornick> that's like saying 95 has better support than ME
[06:52] <lilleman> Someone that knows of this DNS errors?
[06:53] <cowbud> jack_deltrino: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7319 that has all the info you should need
[06:53] <jhornick> what's the error?
[06:53] <cryedwolf> rbil?
[06:53] <tm4> haha - well, vista doesn't like my sound card that much right no
[06:53] <rbil> u said u could login with the username/password, no?
[06:53] <tm4> now*
[06:53] <lilleman> A fresh install of 6.10 keeps setting the DNS servers to wrong ones
[06:53] <Negima> grrr.... im gonna break this pc...
[06:53] <tm4> and creative has yet to release and drivers for it
[06:53] <jhornick> where are you getting dhcp from?
[06:54] <rbil> cryedwolf: is there just one user on that machine?
[06:54] <lilleman> jhornick: My own OpenBSD dhcp server that serves about 10 other computers
[06:54] <cryedwolf> yes
[06:54] <lilleman> it is correctly configured
[06:54] <anonymeeee> ok, I installed htop
[06:54] <anonymeeee> now what do I do with it?
[06:54] <tm4> ToddEDM I gotta go, sorry to leave you hanging, but its 1am where I am and I've gotta be up in a few hours
[06:54] <rbil> cryedwolf: and doing this ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg      the password doesn't work?
[06:54] <tm4> hey guys - someone mind helping ToddEDM get his nvidia drivers installed?
[06:54] <rbil> make sure caps lock isn't on
[06:54] <ToddEDM> no prob dodo
[06:55] <ToddEDM> im gonna install something different
[06:55] <ToddEDM> lol not dodo, dood
[06:55] <tm4> lol
[06:55] <lilleman> jhornick: Can I PM you instead,  this channel is just flooding :D
[06:55] <Taa5i> Can someone suggest a program to mount a disc image as a virtual cd drive please?  This is for a legitimate purpose on a dvd I legally own.
[06:55] <tm4> ToddEDM be patient - ubuntu is one of the best distros, but it takes some tweaking.
[06:55] <cryedwolf> oh wen i typed that it had a command colision
[06:55] <jhornick> if you want to, not sure if I can figure this one out before you can yourself though
[06:55] <ToddEDM> edubuntu, with the CD is better than this one installed
[06:56] <ToddEDM> at least i had sound
[06:56] <rbil> cryedwolf: never heard of a "command collision". you typed it in correctly?
[06:56] <cryedwolf> yes
[06:56] <rbil> cryedwolf: do ....  cd/etc/X11
[06:57] <rbil> cryedwolf: and then do .... ls -l
[06:57] <rbil> cryedwolf: any chance u have a backup there of xorg.conf?
[06:57] <cryedwolf> nope
[06:58] <rbil> do ... less xorg.conf
[06:58] <lilleman> jhornick: hm... some spam-issue thingie says I cant PM you
[06:58] <rbil> and look through the file
[06:58] <rbil> something amiss with maybe the correct driver?
[06:58] <jhornick> weird someother channel then?
[06:58] <cryedwolf> ok brb
[06:59] <lilleman> My DNS servers sets to <IP_ADDRESS> and search domain to key.chillispot.org
[06:59] <lilleman> I have no idea where those settings comes from
[06:59] <lilleman> it's not from my DHCP server at least
[06:59] <lilleman> Is there a way to manually just shut down the updates of /etc/resolv.conf, but keep the DHPC on the rest of the network?
[06:59] <jhornick> you can kill dhclient3
[06:59] <jhornick> on the client computer
[07:00] <jhornick> and just static the addresses
[07:00] <rbil> lilleman: if u setup a static ip for your box
[07:00] <lilleman> Yes, but I want dhcp in general, since I move around this laptop a lot
[07:00] <cauthan> yay, my sound is working
[07:00] <Taa5i> Can someone suggest please a program for creating and mounting a disc image as a virtual cd drive?
[07:00] <jhornick> what are you using for the dhcp server?
[07:00] <eighte> hey can anyone answer a question about a memory card reader
[07:00] <lilleman> jhornick: OpenBSD 3.6
[07:00] <ramza3> I want java installed (sun's java), but I also want open-office installed (which uses gcj?) what should I do
[07:01] <jhornick> I meant program
[07:01] <jack_deltrino> whoever was trying to help me, it won't work because i'm on the installation cd
[07:01] <lilleman> BSD dhcpd
[07:01] <jack_deltrino> i'm trying to install ubuntu with it
[07:01] <SurfnKid> is there a messenger for cli?
[07:01] <timfrost> Taa5i, what do you mean by 'virtual cd drive'?
[07:01] <jhornick> I've been using bind9 for local dns and was debating using the dhcp at some point
[07:01] <SurfnKid> as in MSN Messenger
[07:01] <cryedwolf> hey no such file or directory
[07:01] <jhornick> sufnKid: gaim-text
[07:01] <jack_deltrino> does anyone know how orinoco_pci works? i modprobe orinoco_pci and then, how do i get my wifi working? :(
[07:01] <SurfnKid> sweet
[07:01] <Taa5i> timfrost: I have a game DVD whose copy protection prevents it from being recognized under Linux, so I want to burn an image of it and mount that instead to see if it will work then.
[07:01] <SurfnKid> jhornick: thx
[07:01] <cauthan> beryl ftw
[07:02] <Flannel> !iso | Taa5i
[07:02] <ubotu> Taa5i: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[07:02] <jhornick> lille is this dhcp over wireless?
[07:02] <lilleman> jhornick: no
[07:02] <Flannel> Taa5i: no program required, mount has that capability built-in
[07:02] <Taa5i> Thanks Flannel :)
[07:02] <lilleman> jhornick: However, it is on the wireless _to_ but in this case it's wired
[07:02] <cowbud> jack_deltrino: well then I believe you are SOL unless you can get an ethernet card..
[07:03] <jhornick> had to check, sometimes they like to hope on other networks
[07:03] <jhornick> s/hope/hop
[07:03] <lilleman> Yeh, but I'm in a concrete basement here with no reception. :)
[07:03] <jhornick> yeah yeah, wired
[07:03] <lilleman> well, I'll go static now and see if I can google the issue. :)
[07:03] <cryedwolf> jeez guess im gonna have to start again
[07:03] <lilleman> or come back in a less busy time maybe
[07:04] <Flannel> jack_deltrino: ndiswrapper is on the CD, even the DEsktop CD, you'll need to add the repository (apt-cdrom) (it's a small repository)
[07:04] <jhornick> this channel is always fast I've noticed
[07:04] <jhornick> but that's just weird
[07:04] <noodles12> what's the command for copying directories?
[07:04] <lilleman> yes, I've never came across something like this before
[07:04] <jhornick> cp -r
[07:04] <cowbud> jack_deltrino: well there ya go flannel to the rescue
[07:04] <lilleman> noodles12: cp -R source destination
[07:04] <nexous> Where are GTK2 themes stored when using XFWM4?
[07:05] <timfrost> Taa5i, try copying the DVD to an ISO image with 'dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso ' then use mount. (change /dev/dvd to the actual device name)
[07:05] <lilleman> tnx and cya :)
[07:05] <Taa5i> timfrost: Awesome, I'm looking into it! :)
[07:05] <jhornick> anyone got a way to stream audio to an icecast2 server?
[07:06] <noodles12> when using cp -r, how do i make it to copy symbolic links?
[07:06] <nexous> Where are GTK2 themes stored when using XFWM4?
[07:06] <jhornick> it should copy the links, but not the actual data in the links
[07:06] <tom47> am i th eonly one with dapper that the firefox fixes broke?
[07:06] <jhornick> ill find the option for that
[07:06] <Flannel> nexous: You might have luck in #xfce, if you can't get an answer here
[07:06] <anonymeeee> anyone know how to use htop?
[07:06] <puff> Ah, fuck, looks like the mac itunes "factory restore" also reformatted this thing as HFS.
[07:06] <nexous> oh okay, didn't know that existed, thanks
[07:06] <jhornick> -L copys the data in the links
[07:06] <xtknight> which service do i need to restart to reload UUIDs for new partitions without rebooting?
[07:07] <tom47> are there known issues with todays firefox upgrade in dapper?
[07:07] <xtknight> !uuid
[07:07] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:07] <carpediem> puff, language please
[07:08] <puff> carpediem: Sorry, been pounding my head against this for a couple days now.
[07:08] <Flannel> jhornick: you need a "source client" (I believe that's the correct terminology) like... ices2
[07:08] <xtknight> is there a global log for this channel somewhere?
[07:08] <Pooky> can anyone point me someplace on how to setup suspend2 on a macbook pro? I keep making attempts and failing :/
[07:08] <xtknight> like a log that's always running and accessible to everyone?  i asked this question and got an answer but forgot it...
[07:08] <xtknight> (the uuid /service restart question)
[07:08] <shadeofgrey> somebody talk me thru installing the newest version of ubuntu on my intel macbookpro?  damn...  i just took 4 brand name purgocets - this install is going to be fun..  rtheres no two ways about it kids... im higher than a prom dress in june
[07:09] <cwillu> !undelete
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <shadeofgrey> hook it up with the ill install instructions yo
[07:09] <jhornick> Flannel: <param name="device">plughw:0,0</param> is the only option for ices2 to listen on that it works with, but it is not frabbing audio
[07:09] <cwillu> somebody deleted a bunch of files from the trash by accident;  is there any way to recover them?
[07:09] <cwillu> not from this machine, btw
[07:09] <tom47> xtknight http://www.irclinux.org/freenode/ubuntu/
[07:09] <Flannel> xtknight: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/?C=M;O=D
[07:10] <xtknight> tom47, Flannel: thanks!
[07:10] <xtknight> actually maybe i should just check my own logs, that's undoubtedly easier ;)
[07:11] <xtknight> aw too bad i didnt have logging
[07:11] <jhornick> hindsight
[07:11] <stoa> test
[07:11] <Flannel> stoa: ack
[07:11] <jhornick> syn/ack
[07:14] <cowbud> ack
[07:15] <steelb> how do i see my internets gateway
[07:16] <jhornick> steelb: with xeyes </bad joke>
[07:16] <steelb> :( ifconfig doesnt show it
[07:16] <bulmer> netstat -ran
[07:16] <steelb> thanks
[07:16] <bulmer> np
[07:18] <duckdown> I am trying to watch a video clip in my Firefox but it can't load the application/x-mplayer2 plugin.  How do I fix this?
[07:18] <K3nto> woot! wine is working!!
[07:18] <K3nto> pff that wasnt bad at all
[07:19] <K3nto> and wine can run just about any windows app/game?
[07:19] <jhornick> some beter than others
[07:20] <nexous> How do I get back to Metacity from XFCE?
[07:20] <SurfnKid> jhornick: is gaim-text available for the edgy distro that you know of
[07:20] <K3nto> sweeet
[07:20] <momoru> Anyone know how you add more resolutions to the screen resolution switcher in Gnome?
[07:20] <jhornick> not sure, its just questioned quite a bit over in #gaim
[07:20] <jhornick> I havnt looked for it yet though
[07:20] <SurfnKid> jhornick: ah ok
[07:21] <SurfnKid> m/j #gaim
[07:21] <SurfnKid> oops
[07:21] <SurfnKid> :P
[07:21] <jhornick> lawl its in beta4 +
[07:22] <_Krull_> xchat is sweet
[07:22] <patrick_> hey, can anyone help me out with getting around dvd encryption (something like dvdshrink)?  i'm struggling to get dvd's burnt
[07:23] <jhornick> here's the debuntu repos that has gaim-text, http://repository.debuntu.org/ I can't guarentee that it works
[07:23] <nexous> How do I get back to Metacity from XFCE?
[07:23] <solarce> follow the map
[07:24] <floundation> hey, can anyone help with dvd burning issues?  i need to find a worthwhile program to get around commercial encryption
[07:24] <cwillu> so, what are the odds of undeleting something from the gnome trash bin?
[07:25] <momoru> hey hey hey, he could merely be trying to back up his legally purchased media.
[07:25] <carson> does anyone know what the name of the gnome app is that handles the volume up/down" keys?
[07:25] <floundation> nah, i'm just trying to make netflix more effective
[07:25] <timfrost> nexous, log out, then choose Gnome as the session manager at the X login screen (assumes that ubuntu-desktop is installed)
[07:25] <solarce> me ftw
[07:25] <SurfnKid> !mount
[07:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:25] <nexous> timfrost: okay thanks,i'll have to reinstall ubuntu-desotp
[07:25] <nexous> thanks.
[07:26] <nexous> should I apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop to remove xfce?
[07:26] <nexous> or no
[07:26] <cwillu> floundation: you seem to be having difficulty with the concept of plausible deniability
[07:26] <eliran> hey
[07:26] <Doa4> hey
[07:26] <nwonknu-> sup
[07:26] <scizzy> hey guys, just got my wireless working but I can't figure out how to edit and SAVE the modules.conf file it wont let me edit and SAVE it
[07:26] <solarce> scizzy: hay guy!
[07:26] <solarce> scizzy: try editing as root!
[07:26] <scizzy> how do i do that
[07:26] <nwonknu-> ok
[07:26] <solarce> sudo emacs /etc/modules.conf
[07:26] <Doa4> unsure
[07:26] <scizzy> im very new, transfered from windows today
[07:26] <eliran> investigating
[07:27] <momoru> Anyone know how to configure the resolution switching utility in Gnome to add more resolutions?
[07:27] <timfrost> nexous, to remove the XFCE apps, you need to identify all the apps and remove them. Probably not worth the effort.
[07:28] <Madpilot> solarce, inflicting/recommending emacs is a bit much - s/emacs/gedit or s/emacs/vim...
[07:28] <SurfnKid> momoru: i always do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but should check depending on you video driver how to do so
[07:28] <solarce> :(
[07:28] <goban> whats a good program for making music
[07:28] <solarce> what's so hard about ctrl-x-ctrl-s to save?
[07:28] <solarce> goban: jokosher
[07:29] <scizzy> anyone else know how to edit and save modules.conf
[07:29] <scizzy> i can't seem to save my added line
[07:30] <ircleuser> i need help installing on my pc
[07:30] <jhornick> scissy: what does it say the reason is?
[07:30] <scizzy> uh, let me see...
[07:30] <cwillu> scizzy, probably not editing it via sudo
[07:30] <scizzy> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[07:30] <jhornick> yup that's the reason
[07:30] <scizzy> so how do i edit this bad boy
[07:31] <jhornick> system files are generally not write allowed for normal users
[07:31] <cwillu> scizzy, gedit?
[07:31] <goban> solarce: thanks my friend wants a replacement for sony acid
[07:31] <jhornick> use sudo before the rest of the command to edit as the superuser
[07:31] <cwillu> scizzy: gksudo gedit /path/to/file will work
[07:31] <Flannel> scizzy: youneed to use sudo (or gksudo), gksudo for gedit, sudo for... nano or vim or whantot
[07:31] <scizzy> i have no idea how to use gedit... i just installed ubuntu 6.06 6 today from windows, so im very newb
[07:31] <ircleuser> i can't get passed the boot screen when trying to install edgy
[07:31] <cwillu> scizzy: you're probably using gedit if it looks like a normal editor
[07:31] <scizzy> ok let me try some of these suggestions
[07:31] <shadowjack> im on ubuntu edgy. i have the latest nvidia driver installed. it is configure correctly (nvidia instead of nv in xorg.conf) but opengl accelerated graphics are not functioning
[07:32] <cwillu> scizzy: open a terminal (in accessories), and type gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[07:32] <cwillu> or even just gksudo gedit, and then open the file from gedit
[07:32] <ircleuser> it shows the ubuntu boot up screen, but then just goes to black and does nothing...any help?
[07:32] <ircleuser> !install
[07:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:32] <Hudson> shadowjack does GLX and all that show enabled in the nvidia control panel
[07:32] <cwillu> ircleuser: ctrl+alt+f1 get you anything?
[07:32] <nexous> Okay, I just installed ubuntu-desktop again, metacity isn't on here though.
[07:32] <gabz> shadowjack: you need to make sure the glx is installed
[07:32] <shadowjack> Hudson: yes, thats the weird part
[07:33] <ircleuser> cwillu: nothing
[07:33] <cwillu> ircleuser: anything if you boot up in recovery mode?
[07:33] <Hudson> shadowjack is it enabled in your xorg.conf?
[07:33] <shadowjack> Hudson: yes it is
[07:33] <ircleuser> cwillu: how do I do i boot up in recovery mode?
[07:33] <nexous> How do I set my windows manager as Metacity?
[07:34] <NewbieUser00001> ok guys i did something stupid
[07:34] <cwillu> ircleuser: hit escape when you see the line about grub
[07:34] <shadowjack> gabz: i used envy this time. everything installed smoothly. i even get the nvidia logo when i reboot the xserver
[07:34] <timfrost> nexous, what does 'apt-cache policy metacity' report?
[07:34] <cwillu> NewbieUser00001: I bet I've done worse
[07:34] <NewbieUser00001> i accidently turned off administrative permissions for both the desktops I have set up, and I don't have a root password set
[07:34] <shadowjack> gabz: however, opengl 3d stuff isnt accelerated
[07:35] <NewbieUser00001> I thought I was only doing one account, and I mistakenly did both
[07:35] <gabz> shadowjack how do you know opengl isn't working ?
[07:35] <coffee-mug> hey guys
[07:35] <cwillu> NewbieUser00001: just reboot in recovery mode, and look up how to give yourself those permissions back via the command line
[07:35] <gabz> shadowjack what are you testing it with
[07:35] <shadowjack> glxinfo and nvidia-setting says it it working
[07:35] <solarce> hay guyz, is this seriose business?
[07:35] <coffee-mug> when I hit tab in bash and it finds an executable on the path, how can I figure out where it is, exactly?
[07:35] <SurfnKid> whats a command for moving? instead of copying
[07:35] <shadowjack> gabz: oh, ISN'T working
[07:35] <cwillu> mv
[07:35] <solarce> SurfnKid: mv
[07:35] <SurfnKid> k
[07:35] <jhornick> newbie: alternative route is using the cd, mounting the drive, then editing from the live envrionment
[07:35] <SurfnKid> :)
[07:35] <K3nto> has anybody here installed WoW on ubuntu? any problems?
[07:35] <ircleuser> cwillu: should I choose "Start Ubuntu in Safe graphics mode" or "Start or install Ubuntu"?
[07:36] <solarce> mv source destination
[07:36] <cwillu> K3nto: yep
[07:36] <jhornick> surfn: mv SEC DEST
[07:36] <cwillu> works fine, exept two things
[07:36] <solarce> K3nto: I hear it causes you to have no life
[07:36] <jhornick> SRC*
[07:36] <NewbieUser00001> ok... I think I can handle that, anyone have an idea where I'd start looking for the command line way to do that?
[07:36] <SurfnKid> what if its a folder
[07:36] <K3nto> solarce: lol
[07:36] <cwillu> icons get corrupted in the latest patch (you can change a wow.ini config option to fix it), and the minimap doesn't work while indoors
[07:36] <shadowjack> gabz: ive tested it with open glgames like tremulous, opengl screensavers and glxgears
[07:36] <solarce> SurfnKid: might need a -r
[07:36] <cwillu> everything else works fine
[07:36] <jhornick> k3n: only problem I saw in the 3 mins was not having video driver installed
[07:36] <SurfnKid> solarce: gotcha
[07:36] <K3nto> ive been out 4 nights this week
[07:36] <SurfnKid> well now i just need to mount my usb drive and try to move everything there
[07:36] <K3nto> and its just a game, like anything else
[07:36] <shadowjack> gabz: they all run like there is no nvidia driver installed and configured
[07:36] <solarce> K3nto: to a wow meetup?
[07:37] <cwillu> ircleuser: sounds like you've got the live cd in the drive, is that what you want?
[07:37] <K3nto> hahaha
[07:37] <K3nto> no, a court actually
[07:37] <gabz> shadowjack: what about planet penguin racer ?
[07:37] <shadowjack> gabz: however, it IS installed and configured. i even get the nvidia logo
[07:37] <nexous> timfrost: http://pastebin.ca/378051
[07:37] <cerberus> I'm trying to compile a webcam driver and it's failing because it cant find v4l2-common.h does anyone know where this file is or what package I have to install to get it?
[07:37] <K3nto> cwillu: any problems?
[07:37] <ircleuser> i want to install ubuntu and get rid of crappy vista
[07:37] <cwillu> K3nto: um
[07:37] <shadowjack> gabz: i will have to install that
[07:37] <nexous> timfrost: sorry it's a pain in the arse without the windows manager trying to close/minimize programs.
[07:37] <cwillu> K3nto: read the last 4 things I said :p
[07:37] <shadowjack> gabz: to try it out
[07:38] <gabz> shadowjack it shouldn't be that big.
[07:38] <K3nto> the minimap doesnt work inside?
[07:38] <K3nto> cwillu: ever? or just sometimes
[07:38] <cwillu> K3nto: the icon glitch was an ati thing I believe, and yep, the minimap is blank indoors
[07:39] <cwillu> never works indoors
[07:39] <K3nto> nuts
[07:39] <cwillu> something about how its rendered
[07:39] <shadowjack> gabz: its not a problem :)
[07:39] <K3nto> maybe thats an ati thing aswell
[07:39] <solarce> cerberus: try running 'apt-cache search v4l.*-dev' in a terminal
[07:39] <shadowjack> gabz: installing now
[07:39] <twilightkit> quit
[07:39] <cwillu> K3nto: I don't think it is, but I'm pretty sure people are working on it, might even be fixed by now (haven't played since the expansion came out)
[07:40] <K3nto> cwillu i see
[07:40] <nexous> timfrost: any ideas?
[07:40] <gabz> shadowjack if that fails paste your glxinfo output and i'll see i can see anything strange in that
[07:40] <timfrost> nexous, that means that it is installed.  If you choose Gnome as the session at the XDM/GDM/KDM login, you should get metacity as your window manager
[07:40] <cwillu> K3nto: a little crappy for raiding, less so if you know your way around though
[07:40] <cerberus> solarce, nothing happend
[07:40] <nexous> I selected gnome as my session though
[07:40] <gabz> !paste |shadowjack
[07:40] <ubotu> shadowjack: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:40] <K3nto> ill check it out and let you know
[07:40] <ircleuser> cwillu: im trying to install ubuntu for the first time
[07:40] <nexous> but I tried following a Metacity -> XFCE guide on ubuntuforums first, and i had to edit some stuff.
[07:40] <nexous> So I'm not sure if that's the problem.
[07:40] <cerberus> I'm assuming that means it hasn't been installed at any stage
[07:40] <jeeves__> can anyone help me change the res on my Laptop?
[07:41] <cwillu> ircleuser: have you installed it already?
[07:41] <ircleuser> cwillu: never
[07:41] <cwillu> ircleuser: just reboot then
[07:41] <solarce> cerberus: no, that was to potentially find what package might have the header files, open synaptic and search for v4l, look for any packages labeled development
[07:41] <shadowjack> gabz: ok :)
[07:41] <cwillu> ircleuser: the live cd doesn't record changes across a reboot
[07:42] <Toddedm> hey, where is a good list of commands for the command line that a guy could print off
[07:42] <Toddedm> so i can learn rm
[07:42] <cerberus> solarce, I have done that already, brings up a few odds and ends but nothing that looks like dev files
[07:42] <solarce> anything ending in -dev?
[07:42] <K3nto> cwillu: its asking for disc 2, but the tray wont open
[07:42] <gabz> jeeves__ : gnome or kde ?
[07:42] <ircleuser> cwillu: understood...but i click on start or install ubuntu...then the start up screen becomes b&w and then just blank...nothing happens
[07:42] <bulmer> Toddedm: try typing two tabs
[07:42] <Toddedm> just the most common commands
[07:43] <marx2k> Toddedm, man bash
[07:43] <cwillu> K3nto: unmount the drive, then it'll eject
[07:43] <solarce> man man
[07:43] <cerberus> solarce, not in synaptic
[07:43] <jhornick> k3nto: are you trying to install WoW now?
[07:43] <Toddedm> im in windows right now
[07:43] <timfrost> !cli | Toddedm
[07:43] <ubotu> Toddedm: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:43] <solarce> cerberus: then it may not be in the repositories, time to find a tarball
[07:43] <ircleuser> cwillu: checking the disk integrity now...and that screen is b&w
[07:43] <K3nto> jhornick: yep
[07:43] <Toddedm> im trying to install edubuntu right now, so im just getting some things ready while i wait
[07:44] <jhornick> fun
[07:44] <Toddedm> !cli
[07:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:44] <shadowjack> gabz: weird, it ran perfectly
[07:44] <cwillu> ircleuser: give it a minute;  you did have it up to a desktop once though, right?
[07:44] <K3nto> cwillu: right click disc and then click eject?
[07:44] <solarce> !rtfm
[07:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:44] <cwillu> K3nto: sure
[07:44] <solarce> :(
[07:44] <jeeves__> gabz:  Gnome.  I'm not sure if it's set @ the default 1440x900.  it looks kinda large right now.
[07:44] <solarce> oh
[07:44] <Toddedm> thank you timfrost
[07:44] <solarce> haha
[07:44] <ircleuser> cwillu:  now i am getting a list of errors:  [292.846808]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 196526
[07:44] <SurfnKid> can I automatically mount a usb drive upon bootup ?
[07:44] <solarce> !gtfo
[07:44] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:44] <NewbieUser00001> hey, it worked.... i just loaded up in recovery mode and did "startx" and was able to make the change.  I forget who told me that, but thanx!
[07:44] <shadowjack> gabz: but opengl stuff doesnt. celestia doesnt, neither do any of my opengl screensavers
[07:45] <ircleuser> cwillu: never got it to run
[07:45] <K3nto> cwillu: it doesnt work
[07:45] <cwillu> ircleuser: what's the specs on the machine?
[07:45] <gabz> shadowjack : did you install the other gl games before or after you did the config ?
[07:45] <gabz> jeeves__: system ->  prefrences ->  screen resolution ?
[07:45] <ircleuser> amd athlon x64, 2gig, nvidia 7800 gt, 250gb drive
[07:46] <shadowjack> gabz: i dont know the order. why? i just ried celestia and its not working correctly
[07:46] <jeeves__> gabz:  one sec.
[07:46] <ircleuser> cwillu: amd athlon x64, 2gig, nvidia 7800 gt, 250gb drive
[07:46] <cerberus> solarce, the latest source I can find is for the 2.4 kernel
[07:46] <gabz> shadowjack: planet penguin racer is a opengl app
[07:46] <shadowjack> gabz: this is strange. why would racer run ok but nothing else?
[07:46] <jeeves__> gabz:  hummm, why didn't I see that earlier?  LOL
[07:46] <cwillu> K3nto: sudo umount /media/cdrom will work I believe
[07:47] <cwillu> ircleuser: buffer i/o error
[07:47] <jeeves__> gabz:  do you know how to shrink the icons, etc down a bit?  I like the look of my M$ boox (same system running the same res)
[07:47] <cwillu> ircleuser: okay
[07:47] <cwillu> ircleuser: reboot, hit f6 at the menu, and add nodma to the end of the line
[07:47] <jhornick> cerberus shouldn't you be able to apt-get source package
[07:47] <elias> In M$Windows there is a shortcut that closes all windows on the desktop (like Win+D keys combination). Is there something like that in KDE? Does anybody gave a clue?
[07:47] <gabz> shadowjack: i'm not sure why but it proves your opengl is working maybe it's celestia
[07:47] <jhornick> you can configure one
[07:48] <gabz> jeeves__: not sure what you mean
[07:48] <Supaplex> control alt backspace closes everything
[07:48] <cwillu> ircleuser: doesn't like something about your cdrom (I've had that happen a couple times;  works fine once installed, but doesn't get along with the installer)
[07:48] <shadowjack> gabz: but tremulous, and all of my opengl screensaver are not working
[07:48] <K3nto> cwillu: device is busy :/
[07:48] <Supaplex> :P
[07:48] <Talaman> system does not boot into gdm/startx
[07:48] <shadowjack> gabz: no other opengl app works!
[07:48] <elias> Supaplex: but is it possible to create a shortcut?
[07:48] <jhornick> ill brb in a few now
[07:48] <jeeves__> gabz:  well, in M$ (Windows), the icons are almost a quarter of the size they are in Ubuntu, not to mention I can display a LOT more information per page than I can here.
[07:48] <gabz> shadowjack: it could be a missing opengl extension sorry i'm out of idea
[07:48] <cwillu> K3nto: I'm just looking it up now
[07:49] <K3nto> k
[07:49] <cwillu> K3nto: I actually used crossover, and it was about 8-9 months ago that I installed it :p
[07:49] <cwillu> but I know it works
[07:49] <K3nto> crossover?
[07:49] <Supaplex> cwillu: cool. cross dresser for office? ;)
[07:49] <K3nto> oh
[07:49] <cerberus> jhornick, that woud be great in theory, if I knew what package I was getting
[07:49] <gabz> jeeves__: sorry mate no idea where to start on that one
[07:49] <K3nto> crossove iffice
[07:49] <shadowjack> gabz: thanks for trying
[07:49] <cwillu> that's the one :p
[07:49] <Hudson> Anyone have any Idea why the Nvidia binary driver would just suddenly stop working? I turned off my computer this morning when i went to work when I came home It said could not load nvidia kernel and would not load X
[07:50] <shadowjack> gabz: this is a real bother
[07:50] <gabz> shadowjack: post your glxinfo
[07:50] <Talaman> system does not boot into gdm/startx
[07:50] <shadowjack> gabz: ok
[07:50] <jeeves__> gabz:  no problem.  I think I just need to shrink the fonts, and icons down somehow.  If I could do that and get some good video editing software on here, then Ubunut will replace the M$ partition.
[07:50] <cwillu> K3nto: sudo umount /dev/cdrom ?
[07:50] <goban> has anyone gotten warcraft 3 to work on linux?
[07:51] <solarce> now to sit back and let this stupid tool update the timezone for the exchange server :/
[07:51] <solarce> bloody DST changes
[07:51] <cwillu> ircleuser: if that works, there'll be one more thing to do after it's installed to get the hd running at normal speed (nodma slows things down considerably, and increasing cpu usage)
[07:51] <jeeves__> gabz:  thanks again for your help
[07:51] <K3nto> cwillu: nope, device is busy
[07:51] <ircleuser> doesn't seem to be working...I downloaded the iso of the amd 64...maybe I should try another iso?
[07:52] <shadowjack> gabz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181/
[07:52] <cwillu> K3nto: you don't have any browsers or terminals open in the wow cd do you?
[07:52] <ircleuser> cwillu: its just hanging on a black screen with a cursor in the corner...weird
[07:52] <cwillu> ircleuser: give it a couple more minutes, it might just be slow
[07:53] <K3nto> cwillu: nope nothing open
[07:54] <K3nto> cwillu: no terminals or browsers
[07:54] <ircleuser> cwillu: also after the boot options screen, it shows the ubuntu boot up screen in b&w and scrambled
[07:54] <brads> anybody got a way to make Flash ide use IE under wine?
[07:54] <xine> hai everyone
[07:54] <jeeves__> gabz:  I figured it out.  you have to change the font size.
[07:54] <abasinisvacant> hy xine
[07:54] <xine> no,hehe
[07:54] <cwillu> K3nto: you can try umount -fl /dev/cdrom,
[07:55] <cwillu> but this doesn't sound right
[07:55] <jhornick> gaim-text time
[07:55] <gabz> jeeves__: cool glad you found your solution
[07:55] <cwillu> ircleuser: what video card?
[07:55] <gabz> shadowjack: sorry mate can't find a reason
[07:55] <ircleuser> nvidia 7800 gt
[07:55] <K3nto> cwillu: nope not found
[07:55] <cwillu> um
[07:56] <cwillu> not found, or busy?
[07:56] <shadowjack> gabz: thank you for giving it a shot :)
[07:56] <K3nto> not found
[07:56] <brads> Any Flash IDE in ubuntu users here at all
[07:56] <jeeves__> gabz:  now to fix that little annoying thing that makes me remove ALL power to the laptop when I shut it down, and mabey get come CPU scalling going.
[07:56] <cwillu> sorry, did you sudo that too?
[07:56] <K3nto> yup yup
[07:57] <capitalidea> Help! (gnome-session:11504): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for Neutral_Plus has no directories
[07:57] <cwillu> so sudo umount /dev/cdrom said busy, and sudo umount -fl /dev/cdrom said not found?
[07:57] <capitalidea> After that message, the gnome apps just quit
[07:57] <gabz> jeeves__: i'm still working on my own laptop power problems  battery status is all over the shop
[07:57] <capitalidea> So I can't login to gnome and I can't change my theme
[07:57] <cwillu> ircleuser: try it in safe graphics mode I guess, still putting nodma on with f6 (hit f6 after highlighting the option)
[07:57] <gabz> shadowjack: go play some planet peguin racer then come back and ask someone else :P
[07:58] <jeeves__> gabz:  yea, mine says it's dead as a stone, but the computer still runs.    It's all locked up
[07:58] <AlexanderSomma> I'm on the verge of cracking my own scull... my frickin Edimax ew-7128g cards are generating two wireless connections in my network settings....
[07:58] <gabz> jeeves__: how did you know i had a toshiba aswell :P
[07:58] <K3nto> cwillu:  umount -fl /dev/cdrom now says not mounted
[07:58] <jeeves__> gabz:  just PRAY yours dosen't go down.  they have HORID support here in Canada.
[07:58] <cwillu> K3nto: k, try to eject it then
[07:59] <gabz> jeeves__: if you type in a terminal acpi -V it gives better information that then gnome app
[07:59] <cwillu> K3nto: otherwise, there's two other general methods though;  you can copy the contents of each cd to a single folder, and run the installer from there, or you can make iso's of the cd's, and mount them that way
[07:59] <shadowjack> gabz: i suspect that something in the background is running that is messing things up. i say this because 3d stuff was running fine until yesterday
[07:59] <jhornick> acpitool isnt bad either, but that might not be in the base install
[08:00] <encompass> I am creating a computer to be demoed at my university, how do I restrict the system so that all changes are restored to original when a new user log's in?
[08:00] <K3nto> cwillu: i got it
[08:00] <gabz> jeeves__: never had a issue getting one repaired in australia they didn't even ask why my dead hard drive didn't contain windows
[08:00] <jeeves__> gabz:  will do.    I only have it for security audits on networks, and for playing with my Ubuntu servers.
[08:00] <jhornick> encompass: dont let them change anything
[08:00] <cwillu> K3nto: k
[08:00] <cwillu> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606 has some other info that might be useful
[08:00] <capitalidea> Can anyone help? I'm quite stuck! I need to know how to change my theme while I'm unable to open gnome-theme-manager.
[08:00] <encompass> jhornick: oh yeah.. you mean like stand there and slap there hand? :P
[08:01] <cwillu> looks like the minimap might be just ati too
[08:01] <jeeves__> gabz:  this satellite P20 has had everything (except the LCD and HDD replaced), and now the LCD's backlight dosen't allways work.  it's less that 2 years old.
[08:01] <AlexanderSomma> encompass: you could have a script to copy
[08:01] <AlexanderSomma> encompass: over the old setting as they logged in
[08:01] <jhornick> encompass: dont give them write permission to the system, and you could have it restore the home dir from skel
[08:01] <AlexanderSomma> encompass: most settings are stored in the ~/. dirs
[08:01] <dangle> is there an apt-get install version of limewire
[08:01] <AlexanderSomma> amd ~/. files
[08:02] <gabz> jeeves__: ouch i guess your buying an ibm next time :P
[08:02] <dangle> or a place i can check what apt-get has for me to install
[08:02] <AlexanderSomma> dangle: use automatix
[08:02] <capitalidea> Is +R on in here?
[08:02] <jhornick> apt-cache search
[08:02] <encompass> jhornick: I think gnome freaks if you do that
[08:02] <dangle> what's automatix
[08:02] <AlexanderSomma> http://www.getautomatix.com/
[08:02] <jeeves__> gabz:  no, I'll buy something custom built.     So, do you know anything about setting up SATA drives through a non-RAID support PCI card to act as a RAID-0 set?
[08:04] <encompass> AlexanderSomma: and where do I put the script to overwrite there settings?
[08:04] <ircleuser> cwillu: got to the tan screen...heard the login sound, but video is scrambled (except for the mouse cursor)
[08:04] <simondaking> i got the cd burned but can only run it off the cd
[08:04] <gabz> jeeves__: nope
[08:04] <encompass> AlexanderSomma: I could mount the /home in ram for fast boot too
[08:04] <AlexanderSomma> encompass: the simplest is to have gnome launch it for you.
[08:05] <Madpilot> simondaking, when you run it off the CD, there's an icon on the desktop labelled "Install" - double click that to install ubuntu
[08:05] <capitalidea> :S
[08:05] <h1st0> mplayer in a terminal rocks
[08:05] <capitalidea> console*
[08:05] <capitalidea> framebuffer console.
[08:05] <jhornick> h1st0 gaim-text is impressive so far as well
[08:05] <AlexanderSomma> encompass: does that help?
[08:05] <jeeves__> Gabz:  I've got a Proliant DL-380 server here with 63Gb of SCSI 10K drives in it, but I was thinking about 2 500Gb SATA (300Mb trans) HDDs as the main storage for the content on my new site.
[08:06] <capitalidea> h1st0: Have you tried mplayer on gamecube linux?
[08:06] <cwillu> is it possible to dpkg-reconfigure on the live-cd?  or how do you get around a bad detected video config on the live cd (when safe graphics doesn't work)?
[08:06] <gabz> jeeves__: i have the budget of a uni student because i am one i won't lie to you i've never gotten to play with hadware like that
[08:07] <jhornick> live-cd sucks at video card, doesnt carry updated drivers, nor restricted ones. but otherwise you can still edit sources.list and install/config them
[08:07] <cwillu> jhornick: easiest way to get a basic vesa config going?
[08:07] <h1st0> cwillu: Yeah you can do that on the lived.  You can also install video cards.
[08:07] <cwillu> ircleuser: I'm working on it :p
[08:08] <h1st0> cwillu: gksu /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it to vesa then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[08:08] <cwillu> h1st0: can you take over helping ircleuser getting the live cd up?  I need to leave for 30 minutes
[08:08] <cwillu> re: the video
[08:08] <h1st0> cwillu: safe mode didn't work?
[08:08] <jeeves__> gabz:  welcome to my life.  I aquired this Generation 1 prolient through some "outside" channels.  The HDDs here are kinda cheap (all the $$ comes from my night job working @ the bar).
[08:08] <ircleuser> cwillu: thanks for all your help cwillu!
[08:09] <h1st0> ircleuser: so whats up you can't start X on the livecd?
[08:09] <BENN92647> can someone please tell me how to enable my printer its an emergency
[08:09] <encompass> AlexanderSomma: can't a user jsut remove that?
[08:09] <cwillu> ircleuser: h1st0:  comes up scrambly in safe-graphics, and not at all in regular, from what I got
[08:09] <jeeves__> gabz:  I was just thinking that if I used 2 64bit PCI single channel SATA cards, then did software RAID-o (to mirror) it, then I could get the speed I need out of it, and I woulden't loose the data if one drive died.  Then keep the database and main site files on the 10K drives for the speed.
[08:09] <ircleuser> h1st0: starts up...I get to the tan screen see my mouse cursor.  looks like a scrambled window is in the center of my screen
[08:09] <h1st0> ircleuser: okay can you atleast get to a terminal by ctrl+alt+f1 so we can get you in X
[08:09] <BENN92647> i need to print my resume and i dont know why its not working
[08:10] <klimraamkosie> How do I enable the scroll wheel on my mouse?
[08:10] <encompass> well I guess I will keep googleing... I need a solid answer
[08:10] <jmazaredo_> can anyone pm me need help for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSambaPDC?
[08:10] <ircleuser> h1st0: ctrl+alt+f1 isn't doing anything
[08:11] <h1st0> ircleuser: hrm... F2?
[08:11] <klimraamkosie> haha ok now it works...
[08:11] <BENN92647> cpk1-can you tell me how to enable my printer please
[08:11] <h1st0> ircleuser: F1-F6 should bring up virtual terminals
[08:11] <ircleuser> h1st0: nothing with f2 either
[08:11] <klimraamkosie> Why would you disable your printer?
[08:11] <ircleuser> weird
[08:11] <jhornick> ctrl+alt+f[1-6]
[08:11] <h1st0> ircleuser: well what type of video card do you have?
[08:12] <BENN92647> no its not working i need to get it working
[08:12] <ircleuser> nvidia 7800 gt
[08:12] <h1st0> ircleuser: well thats what I have safe graphics mode should work.
[08:12] <jeeves__> gabz:  ideas?
[08:12] <h1st0> ircleuser: what cd are you tyring to use?
[08:13] <jeeves__> can anyone add to this convo about SATA drives and RAID support?
[08:13] <ircleuser> edgy...but I got it from a friend
[08:13] <ircleuser> h1st0: should I download another iso?
[08:13] <gabz> jeeves__: i don't get to play with server hardware so i'm not sure at all where to start
[08:13] <h1st0> ircleuser: well Nah I would just check the cd for defects on the main menu.
[08:14] <h1st0> ircleuser: make sure you media is good.
[08:14] <[SExyBItch] > hi
[08:14] <jeeves__> gabz:   do you do websites?
[08:14] <ircleuser> h1st0: k...
[08:14] <gabz> jeeves__: yes but i pay somone else to manager the servers so i can abuse them when they are not up
[08:14] <h1st0> ircleuser: the only other thing i'm thinking is if you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 as soon as the tan screen comes up.  You may be able to get to a terminal then we can try different video drivers.
[08:14] <oxycolton> cultdeadcow.com - OracleGD.com - DSSKCORP.com - rqporn.com
[08:14] <ircleuser> h1st0: i also have a amd athlon 64 x2
[08:14] <oxycolton> Those sites all run ubuntu.
[08:14] <h1st0> ircleuser: is this a 64bit cd?
[08:14] <jeeves__> gabz:  so, you're that kind of guy hunh?    Make sure we are workign with a good cd.  There is also a F button to hit on the main menu will show options.  Perhaps we can specify vesa drivers there.
[08:16] <Phobos> i'm pissed off with my windows >:L
[08:16] <h1st0> !offtopic | ububabe
[08:16] <ubotu> ububabe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:16] <oxycolton> Good, can you help me with VLC?
[08:16] <ububabe> oh dear Phobos
[08:16] <ububabe> VLC
[08:16] <jeeves__> gabz:  hummmm, well, I aquired the hardware, and I'm working @ getting the rest of the stuff I need, then I'm going to get it hosted in a rack, and work on the site.
[08:16] <ububabe> I can help
[08:16] <oxycolton> Sorry h1st0.
[08:16] <ububabe> whats the problem
[08:16] <oxycolton> Well
[08:16] <ububabe> pr0n wont play?
[08:17] <Phobos> my windows itunes won't recognise my ipod
[08:17] <Phobos> >.>
[08:17] <oxycolton> Haha
[08:17] <oxycolton> No
[08:17] <ububabe> oh dear
[08:17] <oxycolton> Well, maybe.
[08:17] <ububabe> terrible
[08:17] <oxycolton> Yeah
[08:17] <ububabe> well if its pr0n
[08:17] <ububabe> i can help
[08:17] <oxycolton> VLC won't play wmv's
[08:17] <Phobos> i was thinking i might switch to ubuntu
[08:17] <ububabe> i had the same problem
[08:17] <Phobos> but i'm not sure
[08:17] <ububabe> oh damn oxycolton
[08:17] <ububabe> thats bad
[08:17] <oxycolton> Or mpg's.
[08:17] <ububabe> yu need to sort that
[08:17] <ububabe> OMG
[08:17] <h1st0> !codecs | oxycolton
[08:17] <ubotu> oxycolton: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <ububabe> mpg too
[08:17] <gabz> jeeves__: good luck with that i just can't help you with the running server part
[08:18] <ububabe> oxycolton
[08:18] <adam_> Phobos: That's a good reason to fight DRM... You can buy it again and it'll play in windows :)  Have a good night...
[08:18] <ububabe> if i send you soem vids
[08:18] <jeeves__> gabz:  no problem.  that's where I shine
[08:18] <ububabe> like tess skansks xxx 6
[08:18] <BENN92647> ONCE AGAIN WIKI_UBUNTU_EDGY GUIDE COMES TO THE RESCUE
[08:18] <ububabe> u can test it?
[08:18] <ircleuser> h1st0: it says 1 checksums failed
[08:18] <h1st0> ircleuser: well thats not good.
[08:18] <ububabe> or eve laurance aka dirly whore??
[08:18] <ububabe> its mpg
[08:18] <Phobos> DRM annoys me too :l
[08:18] <h1st0> ircleuser: sounds like the cd may be bad.
[08:18] <oxycolton> DRM sucks.
[08:18] <ububabe> we can test
[08:18] <ububabe> DRM
[08:18] <ububabe> sHIT
[08:18] <ububabe> we hate it
[08:19] <h1st0> ircleuser: Do you know where to go to download a new one?
[08:19] <oxycolton> CHM files are DRM'd.
[08:19] <ububabe> ok so hat shall we do
[08:19] <ububabe> I SAY
[08:19] <ircleuser> h1st0: should i download an amd 64 bit live cd?
[08:19] <ububabe> REBE::
[08:19] <ububabe> REBELL
[08:19] <oxycolton> REBEL!!!
[08:19] <oxycolton> AAS
[08:19] <oxycolton> sdf
[08:19] <oxycolton> d
[08:19] <oxycolton> f
[08:19] <oxycolton> fs
[08:19] <h1st0> ircleuser: if you want 64bit os but you won't be able to have wine flash or java etc...
[08:19] <ububabe> REBEL
[08:19] <oxycolton> REBEL
[08:19] <ububabe> OMG
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[08:19] <h1st0> ircleuser: I would stick witht he x86 desktop cd.
[08:19] <ububabe> SWITCH
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[08:19] <ububabe> CDC
[08:19] <Phobos> lol wtf
[08:19] <ububabe> cDC
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[08:19] <h1st0> !ops
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[08:20] <ircleuser> h1st0: ok...gonna redownload
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[08:20] <h1st0> ircleuser: yeah stick with the i386 x86 desktop cd.
[08:20] <Hobbsee> bloody chanserv.
[08:20] <adam_> whoah, am I still in #ubuntu?
[08:20] <jhornick> thankyou
[08:20] <h1st0> ircleuser: and burn it at like 4x just to be sure.
[08:20] <SoftIce> hi, how lond will update edgy get releases for?
[08:20] <h1st0> ircleuser: and when you get that done just chose safe graphics mode and all should be well.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> SoftIce: 18 months since release.
[08:21] <Madpilot> SoftIce, until April 2008 - 18 months after it's release
[08:21] <h1st0> Hobbsee: ty
[08:21] <SoftIce> Madpilot: sh2t! ? then what
[08:21] <h1st0> lol cdc I can't believe they're still around.
[08:21] <SoftIce> then you forced to upgrade?
[08:21] <SoftIce> when will dapper reach its end life?
[08:22] <Madpilot> SoftIce, there's an Ubuntu release every six months, so yes, you get 18months per release
[08:22] <Hobbsee> SoftIce: 3 years after it was released, 5 on the server.
[08:22] <Madpilot> Dapper is special, it's getting 3yrs
[08:22] <SoftIce> why won't they give edgy 3 years?
[08:23] <Madpilot> because it's not an LTS - Long Term Support) release
[08:24] <SoftIce> Madpilot: well dapper will have its end life same time as edgy anyway
[08:24] <SoftIce> ?
[08:24] <SoftIce> as it should be around the same time
[08:25] <Madpilot> no, Dapper will get more time - another full year past Edgy's EOL
[08:25] <Flannel> SoftIce: Edgy gets 18 month, Dapper gets 3 years, Edgy is four months after Dapper, so Dapper will be around for about a year longer
[08:25] <SoftIce> I see
[08:25] <SoftIce> *Sigh* when will the next LTS be released?
[08:25] <Flannel> Probably 8.04 or 8.10
[08:26] <jeeves__> gabz:  I think I've found the soluition to my issue with the RAID
[08:26] <SoftIce> 8.04 means what? version or is version something to do with date/month ?
[08:26] <Flannel> SoftIce: Year.Month
[08:26] <SoftIce> err year/month ?
[08:26] <Madpilot> there's no firm word yet - it might be 7.10, Feisty+1
[08:26] <SoftIce> I see
[08:26] <SoftIce> thats a long time
[08:26] <SoftIce> so you saying using ubuntu on a server is a bad idea?
[08:26] <Flannel> Madpilot: It won't be Feisty+1, that'd... well, first, only three in the cycle, also, it'd cut Dapper in Half.  Sort of silly to have two LTSs for 18 months
[08:26] <SoftIce> as you forced to upgrade quite a bit
[08:27] <Flannel> SoftIce: five years is "quite a bit"?
[08:27] <SoftIce> yes, it is
[08:27] <SoftIce> now thing is I have 6 servers running edgy
[08:27] <SoftIce> I can't downgrade back to dapper
[08:27] <SoftIce> so what would you sugest?
[08:27] <riaal> good morning all, Im having problems installing ubuntu. I have tryed to google it but I can't find anything. Can someone use to this check if my graphic card is suported? Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate
[08:28] <Madpilot> SoftIce, why did you put Edgy on all of them without checking into support cycles?
[08:28] <goban> trying to get WC3 frozen throne to run help! the first error message is fixme:cdrom:CDROM_DeviceIoControl Unsupported IOCTL 2d1400 (type=2d access=0 func=500 meth=0)
[08:28] <SoftIce> Madpilot: can't really answer that question, any sugestions?
[08:28] <SoftIce> how safe is an upgrade?
[08:28] <SoftIce> I need 100% garantees :)
[08:29] <Flannel> SoftIce: assuming you're using only official repositories, fairly.
[08:29] <riaal> How to get my graphic card to work? Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate? Won't start xserv =/
[08:29] <clearzen> SoftIce: Nothing is 100 %
[08:29] <TeePOG> has anyone seen the Tectonic.co.za today?
[08:29] <SoftIce> i'm using some backports
[08:29] <MM2> SoftIce: I have tried to upgrade many times, and all times failed :/
[08:30] <SoftIce> like, sendmail bri stuffed asterisk, etc
[08:30] <TeePOG> funniest thing ever, the Virtual Richard M Stallman package
[08:30] <SoftIce> MM2: thanks :)
[08:30] <SoftIce> you just gave me a boost of confidence
[08:30] <MM2> SoftIce: :P jut try it
[08:30] <SoftIce> i'm going to have to try stage the upgrade them
[08:30] <SoftIce> I can't just try if it breaks
[08:30] <SoftIce> im ******
[08:30] <SoftIce> as I will schedule downtime, but it can't be to long
[08:31] <MM2> SoftIce: if it is a server, then try upgrading backupserver first?
[08:31] <riaal> pleas, how to check if its even possible to get my graphic card to work? (Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate)
[08:31] <Flannel> SoftIce: You've got 16 months to schedule downtime
[08:31] <Flannel> er, 14, whatever.
[08:32] <jhornick> flannel: great approach
[08:32] <MM2> SoftIce: and if it works, then do not try to fix it! :)
[08:32] <SoftIce> *smile* aggg, I do a full server build in a max of 2 hours
[08:32] <SoftIce> i'll just backup everything incase
[08:32] <riaal> =((
[08:32] <SoftIce> thanks for all the help
[08:32] <SoftIce> ubuntu support * is much more helpfull than fedora
[08:32] <SoftIce> I hate those guys in that channel :)
[08:33] <SoftIce> I guess its because i'm south african you guys are more helpfull :)
[08:33] <SoftIce> riaal?
[08:33] <SoftIce> well i've used debian for years, so using ubuntu is easy :)
[08:33] <goban> help please! trying to run wc3 on ubuntu edgy and get this error
[08:33] <goban> whyso@whyso-desktop:~$ wine "C:\Program Files\Warcraft III\Frozen Throne.exe"
[08:33] <goban> fixme:cdrom:CDROM_DeviceIoControl Unsupported IOCTL 2d1400 (type=2d access=0 func=500 meth=0)
[08:33] <riaal> having problems installing and starting xserv. my graphic card won't "install"
[08:33] <riaal> " pleas, how to check if its even possible to get my graphic card to work? (Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate)"
[08:34] <Qwhacker> hello everyone.  Is there anyone willing to answer a quick question for me regarding firefox?
[08:34] <Zoffix> Hi, is there any program that could limit my Internet connection speed?
[08:34] <MM2> Qwhacker: just ask?
[08:34] <Zoffix> Qwhacker, what about it?
[08:35] <SoftIce> goban: I would rather recomend using vmware, wine has been unsatble for YEARS!
[08:35] <SoftIce> ive had problems with wine on fbsd 2.2
[08:36] <Qwhacker> theres s bunch of sites i can't view videos on, and as a fix when i was running XP, i just copied some dlls into the firefox plugins directory.... I'm wondering if that would fix it in ubuntu as well?
[08:36] <goban> SoftIce: ah ok thanks
[08:36] <Qwhacker> and if that was the case.... where the firefox plugins directory is.... haha
[08:36] <SoftIce> goban: vmware server is free
[08:36] <SoftIce> so just install that and stick windows on the vmware server, then alocate the vmware server sufficent ram
[08:36] <Shaba1> Hey guys
[08:37] <SoftIce> and it will run as if you are running windows direct
[08:37] <Shaba1> is there an ubutu certification?
[08:37] <SoftIce> be bak now
[08:37] <Madpilot> Shaba1, yes
[08:38] <Qwhacker> poor riaal
[08:38] <Xeroxed> Hey i have a question
[08:38] <riaal> yeh, looks like I have no chois to visa =(((
[08:38] <Xeroxed> I made a small mistake with my install of unbuntu
[08:38] <Madpilot> Shaba1, http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/certification/pro
[08:39] <goban> could anyone help me work this out? (warcraft 3 in wine  http://pastebin.ca/378090)
[08:39] <b0b> k
[08:39] <Qwhacker> what do you mean riaal?
[08:39] <kbd> Is there any way I can change the theme for Gnome without using gnome-theme-manager? Everything 'gnome' dies after spewing "(gnome-terminal:11497): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme file for Neutral_Plus has no directories". This after I tried to install that theme.
[08:39] <b0b> what mistake
[08:39] <Xeroxed> I set up my display to show 1080p but my tv can only use up to 1080i....
[08:39] <Xeroxed> how do i chang emy kboot.conf back to default
[08:39] <ircleuser> h1st0: got a new live cd...check it and no problems
[08:40] <SurfnKid> hmm what command can list the number of files in directories?
[08:40] <SurfnKid> du ?
[08:40] <Xeroxed> I can load up kboot just not ubuntu
[08:40] <Xeroxed> please
[08:40] <Xeroxed> help
[08:40] <ircleuser> h1st0: but Im still getting the scrambled screen...how do I choose a safe driver?
[08:40] <kbd> Xeroxed: use a live a cd and mount the partition, then edit it with nano or whatever
[08:40] <b0b> reinstall
[08:41] <riaal> Qwhacker:  my graphic card wont autoinstall and xserv won't start (Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate)
[08:41] <Xeroxed> i forgot how to mount ,  I just want my resolution back to default
[08:41] <Shaba1> Madpilot do you have a link to info about it
[08:41] <Xeroxed> and when i tried to edit the kboot conf file ,   it wont let me save
[08:41] <Xeroxed> It says read-only file system
[08:41] <Madpilot> Shaba1, the url I gave you above
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <Qwhacker> oooooh.... that sucks
[08:41] <b0b> resolution edit the xfree86
[08:42] <riaal> How to get my Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate to work in ububutu?
[08:42] <Xeroxed> Can anyone help me out to get my default resolution back?,
[08:43] <Shaba1> thanks Madpilot I am in multple rooms atm
[08:43] <Xeroxed> ..how do I load backups?  I followed this tutorial because I thought it said 1080i..not 1080p
[08:44] <ubv> Hello everyone. I own a Mac Book Pro and I'm having this problem: I cannot select any meny entry in the cd-room boot menu, to fix this issue I have to plug in an external keyboard...
[08:44] <Shaba1> On mutiple networks too
[08:44] <ubv> Can you pls tell me how to fix this problem without to do so?
[08:44] <SurfnKid> hmm what command can list the number of files in directories?
[08:44] <spotted> pls
[08:44] <comicinker> help! my evolution won't start anymore since last update in dapper. does anyone have an idea?
[08:44] <jhornick> ls|wc -l
[08:45] <riaal> Please!!! How do I know if its even possible to get my graphic card to work?? (Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate)
[08:46] <Qwhacker> anyone know what i should install to view windows media files in firefox?
[08:46] <Xeroxed1> I followed this tutorial on how to change my resolution but I changed it the wrong one,  so how do i change it to default
[08:46] <ardchoille> comicinker: Yes, the latest firefox update broke evolution. You can run evolution from a terminal with: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/firefox evolution &
[08:46] <Xeroxed1> http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13
[08:46] <puff> riaal: I'd start by googling on:  ubuntu "sapphire x800gto ultimate"
[08:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, restricted | Qwhacker
[08:46] <ubotu> Qwhacker: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:46] <SurfnKid> jhornick: what if there's 9 directories, I want the total amount of files in all
[08:46] <comicinker> that sounds good
[08:46] <riaal> puff, Im trying that but don't get anything usefull
[08:46] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, use baobab
[08:46] <Qwhacker> thanks madpilot
[08:46] <jhornick> ls -r1|wc -l (i think)
[08:47] <comicinker> ardchoille: where do you know?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: im on cli, i cant start my session
[08:47] <ardchoille> comicinker: ?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: recovering some files to blow the partition
[08:47] <puff> riaal:  Yeah,not much there.
[08:47] <SurfnKid> jhornick: cool let me try :0
[08:47] <Xeroxed1> Any one know how to change my kboot to load the default resolution???
[08:47] <comicinker> ardchoille: where do you know that from?
[08:47] <M_Cheevy> with the code freeze announcement, does anyone know what the final word is on dmraid support during install?
[08:47] <ardchoille> comicinker: From the ubuntuforums, lost of folks having the problem. Bug reports have been filed.
[08:47] <puff> riaal: How important is the "ultimate" part?
[08:48] <firefly2442> Is there a way to get my thumb button working on my mouse to go back on a webpage?
[08:48] <riaal> puff, not sure. I can try whit out if you can find anything
[08:48] <Xeroxed1> Someone please help me out here..  I spent a long time installing ubuntu but then i did something i shouldnt of