[17:20] <savid> I'm looking at a forum thread that says to reinstall my kernel.  How do I do that?
[17:21] <afsal> llutz: i'm going to reboot my system
[17:21] <indicator> escott, I just told you, I did
[17:21] <sahil_> in yesteryears ubuntu, we could play a song while hovering the mouse of the music file for loger duration whats dat pacakage
[17:21] <indicator> The same exact problem persists
[17:21] <crazyfork> is my ubuntu fixable ?
[17:22] <escott> indicator, are you sure you got the non-apt versions completely removed?
[17:22] <indicator> escott, Nope.. Can never tell with ubuntu these days... lol
[17:22] <indicator> just used the --uninstall
[17:22] <indicator> flag
[17:22] <sahil_> sory bad english in yesteryears ubuntu, we could play a song while hovering the mouse over the music file for longer duration whats dat pacakage?
[17:23] <escott> indicator, sudo updatedb; and then use locate to try and find all your nvidia kernel modules
[17:23] <TimR> sahil_: Open nautilus and go to Edit -> Preferences -> Preview
[17:24] <TimR> You should be able to set it there
[17:25] <sahil_> TimR, nope....i tried that b4....
[17:26] <TimR> sahil_: It would appear you are correct, I cannot make it work either
[17:27] <lamofgodrocksYEA> Anyone good with tmux?  It isn't working to let me split scren
[17:27] <Migs> is anybody familure with peppermint 2?
[17:27] <dr_willis> i  think theres some mp3 codec you need
[17:28] <dr_willis> Migs:  the distro? it has its own support channels and forums
[17:29] <e|f> Hello. What text editor (for programming) do you recommend on Windows. Thanks! :)
[17:29] <jessehills> clear
[17:29] <dr_willis> e|f:  geany has linux and windows ports
[17:29] <T_H_X> elf, netbeans, ultraedit
[17:30] <jessehills> hey i went into ctrl+alt+f2 to install nvidia graphics driver and now i can not exit and when i reeboot it doesn't let me get back to the desktop can anybody help
[17:31] <nate_h> what's the ubuntu equiv of chkconfig?
[17:31] <nate_h> isn't there one built in?
[17:31] <tumppu> ctrl+alt+f7
[17:31] <nate_h> i mean i can install chkconfig but it seems like one should exist already
[17:32] <escott> jessehills, how did you install the drivers?
[17:33] <sahil_> jessehills,is ur x starting?
[17:33] <sidvee> Is there any good irc channel for web development(specially dotnet). Sorry , i know this is off topic. But I have never visited any channel apart from #ubuntu. So couldn't help.
[17:33] <escott> !alis | sidvee
[17:35] <sahil_> is there any dragon speech recognition type software for linux?
[17:35] <ejm> I want to use linux on my new box, but I need a way to get rid of the DRM on my iTunes and amazon movies. Is there a way to do this?
[17:35] <sahil_> or will it work via wine?
[17:36] <dr_willis> !appdb
[17:37] <Chipzzz> sahil_: it appears to run under wine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux
[17:38] <zykotick9> nate_h: rcconf (ncurses service manager) used to be the debian equivalant of chkconfig - but not sure it should be used anymore with recent changes in ubuntu
[17:38] <nate_h> meh, no likey ncurses :P
[17:39] <dr_willis> not really seen any manager tools for upstart services
[17:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:40] <mehdi> i cant have libreoffice run plz help
[17:41] <hakaishi_> Hi, may I ask how to turn off the desktop effects with gnome3? Or how can I set gnome-fallback? Since the login doesn't work for me, I can't choose it there... How else can I set it?
[17:42] <bc81> !details | mehdi
[17:43] <crazyfork> i've recently reinstalled windows and later then used repair boot program to repair the boot loader. The boot loader works fine but ubuntu is running in text mode. When i tried the recovery console and use failsafeX mode and then restart X , my ubuntu works fine. I want to fix this problem. My current ubuntu version is 10.10. /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/854243/
[17:44] <mehdi> well i use ubuntu 11.10  there is no error shown and when i run libreoffice only the loading dialog shown and nothing happens
[17:44] <mehdi> i remove and reinstalled it again i also remove the confuration file
[17:45] <lion42> mehdi, what I would do (as very much a not-technical user) would be to gksudo synaptic, mark everything in libreoffice for complete removal, and then reinstall it.
[17:45] <escott> crazyfork, this is 11.04?
[17:45] <bc81> mehdi: and then, run it from a terminal to see if you get any error messages
[17:46] <HasonDx> hi
[17:46] <mehdi> lion42, in ubuntu 11.10 there is no synaptic plus i installed from software center and also added repo from ubuntu.com but it was useless
[17:46] <HasonDx> all iam on back track 4
[17:46] <mehdi> bc81, i run it in terminal but no error is showing
[17:46] <HasonDx> can any one teach me some thing
[17:46] <crazyfork> escott .. hmm didnt notice... i do lot of updates
[17:46] <zykotick9> !backtrack | HasonDx
[17:46] <escott> !bt | HasonDx
[17:47] <escott> crazyfork, what kind of graphics card do you have. do you have any prop drivers installed?
[17:47] <HasonDx> i have an  Ubuntu too
[17:47] <HasonDx> but 10.4
[17:47] <Kaan_M_32> HTTP://WWW.BORABUX.COM
[17:47] <grobda24> Anyone managed to get Nautilus to show EXIF columns for photo's ? As a photographer I need to sort photo's by exposure or aperture using the column sorting.
[17:47] <lion42> mehdi, oh, sorry I did not realise that. Well, that's all the advice I'm good for unfortunately. :P
[17:48] <mehdi> lion42, dont worry about it tanx though
[17:48] <mehdi> i use 64 bit could it be the matters?
[17:48] <lion42> I run LO in ubuntu64 fine.
[17:48] <lion42> (11.10)
[17:48] <crazyfork> escott: i didnt install any drivers. everything was quite alright before i reinstall windows
[17:49] <hakaishi_> ehrm... and there I go unnoticed...
[17:49] <escott> crazyfork, im just trying to figure out what might have been changed. if its booting the correct kernel its hard to imagine what changing the bootloader could have done
[17:50] <twisel> can anyone help me connect a 3tb external usb drive (GPT) connect to ubuntu 11.10?
[17:50] <lion42> hakaishi_, there's a lot of people asking for help on this channel and not always very many people to answer to wide range of questions people have. Can you elaborate on login not working?
[17:51] <hakaishi_> lion42: well, autologin works but if I turn it off or kill the X-Server the login menu won't show.
[17:51] <Seryth> rawr grrr rage
[17:52] <crazyfork> escott: as far as i remember i ran that boot repair program twice ... once with its default setting and another with acpi off.
[17:52] <Chipzzz> twisel: by default it should be recognized and pop up an instance of nautilus for each partition
[17:53] <escott> crazyfork, i dont know much about this bootrepair. i wonder if it changes /etc/default/grub or not. do you use etckeeper at all?
[17:53] <crazyfork> escott : no
[17:54] <twisel> #chipzzz it doesn't, works fine  on Win7 (formatted on Win7 and contains data)
[17:54] <escott> crazyfork, you could try rerunning update-grub. if the boot repair didnt touch /etc/default/grub then you should get back to your original grub.cfg
[17:54] <escott> crazyfork, do you know if you ever set any flags in that file?
[17:55] <twisel> chippzzz even a disk larger than 2.2tb??  (GPT)??
[17:55] <crazyfork> escott:  i amm not sure..
[17:55] <Chipzzz> twisel: do you see it in accessories->disk utility?
[17:55] <escott> twisel, gpt was supported on linux long before any other os
[17:55] <acidrain> im still facing the same issue about permissions of imap trying to open the maildir directory
[17:56] <twisel> its not present in gparted etc  I'm now using 11.10 amd64live cd chipzzz
[17:56] <hakaishi_> lion42: maybe I should mention that I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[17:56] <kichawa> hi folks
[17:57] <lion42> 12.04 is not the current version of ubuntu, is it?
[17:57] <escott> crazyfork, if the only thing that was modified was the grub.cfg the only source of your problems could be some boot flag like acpi=off or nomodeset (although thats not in 2.6.35) so if you can figure out what the flags might have been, remember any hardware that might have been problematic in the past and needed a kernel flag that would help
[17:57] <zykotick9> hakaishi_: re-ask your question in #ubuntu+1 then (12.04 is not supported here)
[17:57] <Chipzzz> twisel: the win7 format should support drives much larger than that
[17:57] <zykotick9> lion42: no
[17:57] <kichawa> strange problem, i had to delete one .so from the system
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> lion42  #ubuntu+1
[17:58] <hakaishi_> okay, thanks ^^
[17:58] <lion42> zykotick9, I thought so. I just didn't recall what the channel for the newer versions was.
[17:58] <shazzr> Anyone got a Hauppauge NOVA-T USB-stick to work under Ubuntu 11.10?
[17:58] <escott> twisel, gparted 11.10 absolutely supports gpt
[17:58] <escott> twisel, the only way it might be a problem is if you have a hybrid gpt/mbr in which case you might want to use gdisk
[17:58] <kichawa> and now desktop is not loading properly
[17:58] <twisel> chippzzz win7 does, just ubuntu I'm haveing issues with, important at the mo since its my data drive and my win7 OS system disk has physically died
[17:58] <kichawa> how can i reinstall all X in ubu ?
[17:58] <tarelerulz> I read the page for Ubuntu for Android .   Other then the hardware , do I have to install Ubuntu on the phone or I just hook in my phone and the new ubuntu will see it and start using the  app like gmail , texting ap
[17:58] <ikonia> kichawa: why do you need to ?
[17:59] <kichawa> ikonia: i had to rm some .so
[17:59] <kichawa> i have some bad sectors on the disk
[17:59] <twisel> chipzzz I've read forums for several days but with no joy
[17:59] <escott> kichawa, which one. search for the so with apt-file and force a reinstall
[17:59] <ikonia> kichawa: why ?
[17:59] <ikonia> kichawa: nah, that's not right
[18:00] <LordDeath> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and I don't have the suspend to disk feature anymore :-(
[18:00] <zykotick9> LordDeath: wrong channel, use #ubuntu+1 for beta releases
[18:00] <Chipzzz> twisel: ouch! i don't know why you're having a problem with it... it's ntfs, isn't it?
[18:00] <LordDeath> zykotick9: thx
[18:01] <twisel> chipzzz yes (GPT) NTFS as opposed to MBR
[18:01] <mehdi> could it be related to jDK or JRE?
[18:01] <twisel> in an external caddy
[18:01] <krey_> hello, why does transmission-daemon autostart? will transmission-gtk break if I kill it?
[18:02] <escott> twisel, are the partitions listed in /proc/partitions
[18:02] <Chipzzz> twisel: or can you see it in the disk utility?
[18:02] <crazyfork> escott: i dont have any hardware problems.. i guess its that boot repair program ... i used it without upgrading it.. could that be the problem. And everytime i repair boot with it.. my windows crash.. with each tries... like showing HAL.Dll missing. So later then ..after seeing some tip from ubuntu website.. i load both os manually using Ubuntu live CD.
[18:02] <kichawa> escott: k, i update apt-file right now
[18:02] <mghaffari> ubuntu error :acroread acroread-common ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32bz2-1.0 lib32gcc1 lib32ncurses5 lib32stdc++6 lib32v4l-0 lib32z1 libc6-i386 nspluginwrapper
[18:03] <twisel> escott don't know where proc partitions is but its not listed under gparted etc
[18:03] <escott> crazyfork, i know nothing about this boot repair. but you can boot to recovery so why not rerun grub-install and update-grub
[18:04] <ubuntu> hola
[18:04] <ubuntu> siniores
[18:04] <zykotick9> !es | ubuntu
[18:04] <crazyfork> escott: ok .. i'll do that
[18:04] <twisel> chipzzz no it really doesn't appear anywhere in Ubuntu as if it was turned off / not plugged in
[18:04] <ubuntu> estan todos reportados flanders
[18:04] <kichawa> escott: apt-file search so ?
[18:04] <escott> crazyfork, and who knows maybe boot repair messes with initrd so run update-initramfs as well
[18:04] <escott> kichawa, for the file you deleted
[18:04] <crazyfork> ok
[18:05] <escott> twisel, /proc/partitions is a file that lists all the partitons the kernel has identified. open it in a text editor
[18:06] <escott> kichawa, if you don't know what file (which you should have written down) http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/02/21/debian-cleanup-tip-4-find-broken-packages-and-reinstall-them/
[18:06] <dillinger417> What ultimately determines a user's groups?  /etc/passwd or /etc/group or both?
[18:07] <crazyfork> escott: how should i use update-initramfs ?
[18:07] <escott> dillinger417, passwd only has the primary group
[18:07] <crazyfork> with what flags ?
[18:08] <twisel> escott 3 items listed in proc/partitions 2 with 156mill blocks
[18:08] <escott> crazyfork, sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:08] <crazyfork> escott: ok
[18:08] <escott> twisel, and is that correct
[18:08] <kichawa> escott: i save it but cant find
[18:08] <dillinger417> escott: ok, thank you.  What if a user has a group listed as primary group, but user isn't listed with group in /etc/group ?
[18:08] <Chipzzz> twisel: somebody solved the same problem with a 2tb drive in ubuntu 10.10 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1669637
[18:08] <twisel> escott listed as sda and sda1
[18:09] <escott> dillinger417, that would seem to be bad. how did you do this?
[18:09] <TheRedOctober> Hi All!  Say, is there an audio equalizer for audio out on ubuntu?
[18:09] <zykotick9> dillinger417: running "groups" in a terminal will list all groups that user is currently in.  If that helps at all.
[18:09] <escott> twisel so assuming the blocks are 512b is that the correct total size of the disk. are they ending where they should?
[18:09] <dillinger417> escott: I didn't.  I'm coming in to the situation after the fact :(
[18:09] <crazyfork> escott: okay done. would you like to see my updated /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[18:09] <mtlaptop> hi
[18:10] <escott> dillinger417, you are going to have to worry about the shadow files as well http://superuser.com/questions/172780/passwd-shadow-or-group-gshadow-mismatch
[18:10] <escott> crazyfork, what version of the os is this?
[18:11] <zykotick9> crazyfork: menu.lst?  are you using grub-legacy?
[18:11] <crazyfork> escott: i am using ubuntu 10.10
[18:12] <pietro10> Hi. I'm in GNOME Terminal on 11.04 cleaning out my home folder. ls -d [A-Z]* doesn't choose files that only begin with uppercase letters, but [ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ]* does. What happened - did something change that I don't know about?
[18:12] <escott> crazyfork, 10.10 should have switched to grub2, but if you upgraded from a previous version you might have skipped the upgrade
[18:12] <pietro10> in ubuntu
[18:12] <pietro10> *did something change in ubuntu
[18:13] <escott> pietro10, try switching LC_COLLATE to C
[18:13] <crazyfork> escott: well ... i am ignoring some recent updates
[18:13] <dillinger417> zykotick9: that does help.  Apparently users are still in the group, even though not listed in /etc/group.  I wonder what gives.  In /etc/group only one user is listed vs. user1,user2 etc.
[18:13] <pleiades>  10.10 should have switched to grub2, but if you upgraded from a previous version you might have skipped the upgrade
[18:14] <zykotick9> dillinger417: that doesn't make sense?  no idea.  Have the users logged out/back in?  it's only a login that group membership is established.
[18:14] <escott> crazyfork, are you at a console now? dpkg -l "*grub*" should tell you what grub versions are installed
[18:14] <matju> what is the new way to select my CPU's frequency ? I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 and all the gnome-panel applets are gone.
[18:15] <dillinger417> zykotick9: idk.  it hasn't caused any issues yet, but I'm in the process of trying to lock everything down and get permissions straight.
[18:15] <pleiades> i dont think theres a lot more behind the dissolution of #love than the people who spent every day for the last n years there already know.. than what.. i maen dont say #love
[18:15] <twisel> escott why would you assume the blocks are 512b?  surely GPT means 4096
[18:15] <_Neytiri_> i am having a problem with updating, and installing software it keeps failing Errors were encountered while processing:  dovecot-common  dovecot-imapd  dovecot-pop3d  virtualmin-base  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:15] <pleiades> I initiated it
[18:16] <crazyfork> escott: that shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/854319/
[18:16] <Chipzzz> matju: as far as i know, there is no applet to do it in 11.10
[18:16] <lucidguy> Looking to assign the output of this command to a variable within a bash script..  root@server df -P| grep "m1:/projects2" |awk '{print $4}'
[18:16] <kichawa> escott: libgtk-x11-2.0 is missing :D
[18:16] <matju> Chipzzz: is there any command to do it ?
[18:17] <escott> matju, most people don't select frequencies these days (the hardware has gotten more advanced about picking the best frequencies). but you can change the governor in /sys by echoing from a root shell to the governor file
[18:17] <escott> twisel, gpt!=4k blocks, but it can work with both
[18:17] <Roasted> Can anybody make sense of my output here? sda and sdb are part of a raid1 array using mdadm, but I'm confused over why they're not matching. They did match, but for some reason one was flagged as NTFS. I removed sdb (the "ntfs" drive), formatted it, and re-added it and let it sync up, and here we are: http://pastebin.com/2S9i8nDf
[18:17] <pleiades> some things yea a new computer is needed.. but srsly running routed?. or bind?
[18:17] <zykotick9> matju: i use the commands provided from the package cpufrequtils on my netbook
[18:18] <escott> crazyfork, at this point nobody is shipping 4k block disks. those that are 4k emulate 512b, because windows 4k support is utterly broken
[18:18] <sirkaya> hello everybody
[18:18] <btlinuxuser> helly
[18:18] <xangua> Chipzzz: matju there is an indicator http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[18:18] <pleiades> hello! :-).. i am unenployed.. and want to work in redhat inc.. most in the kernel team!. C is allmost my second language!. flamoot: ur not fun.. maybe a little awkeward... i hate my beard.. i need to shave i think.. woman these days doesnt appreciate a nice gnu beard.. -D.. i dont "hunt".. im just happy for anything i can get my grips on.... thanks for not banning me tho!. I know i wan be a little obnoxious.. but thanks! :-).. *can*.. it
[18:18] <btlinuxuser> hey, folks. all right ?
[18:18] <Gentoo64> btlinuxuser, dont hack me please
[18:18] <crazyfork> escott: what does that mean ?
[18:18] <escott> crazyfork, so thats grub1. can you try dpkg -l "*grub*" just want to make sure that 1.99 is not installed in any way
[18:19] <btlinuxuser> not my intention, ( by the way, why do You bother ? )
[18:19] <pleiades> here are probably a good hobby for their flagrant violation of the English stole the land of Natives..
[18:19] <zykotick9> !ot | pleiades
[18:19] <twisel> escott 156290904*512=80020942848    doesn't sound like 3tb
[18:19] <Chipzzz> xangua: actually, i see there is an applet in a ppa here:http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/cpu-frequency-scaling-indicator-fixed.html
[18:20] <matju> escott: there are realtime apps that become unusable when the cpu freq changes automatically. I don't see why any user should have to run a shell command as root to do that.
[18:20] <btlinuxuser> may i ask something ?
[18:20] <zykotick9> btlinuxuser: is it an ubuntu question?
[18:20] <xangua> Chipzzz: yes, that is an Indicator
[18:20] <escott> twisel, it doesn't make sense as 4k blocks either though
[18:20] <btlinuxuser> bt5 is ubuntu minimal, so i think, yes
[18:20] <pietro10> escott: that didn't work
[18:20] <zykotick9> !backtrack | btlinuxuser
[18:21] <pleiades> got a go myexgf and her fucking mama."..
[18:21] <btlinuxuser> i need just a nendency
[18:21] <pleiades> built a jump, hit that mofo is going makeme need thorazine..
[18:21] <btlinuxuser> tendency
[18:21] <twisel> escott Im not sure it isn't the usb cd rom drive
[18:21] <pleiades> seen sandail\
[18:21] <crazyfork> escott: same output
[18:21] <btlinuxuser> i customized my bt5 very nice, and did everything as root
[18:21] <sacarlson> what  are we using to replace libglade2-ruby as it seems to have been removed in ubuntu 11.10, seems it's been depricated
[18:21] <arlo> are there a streaming expert here`?
[18:21] <escott> !bt | btlinuxuser
[18:21] <escott> !backtrack | btlinuxuser
[18:22] <dtigue> hey what is the channel for help with precise ?
[18:22] <pleiades> can i call you tonight stealcian
[18:22] <arlo> Hello are there a streaming expert here?
[18:22] <btlinuxuser> now i want to ask : how Do You copy user profiles
[18:22] <escott> !precise | dtigue
[18:22] <zykotick9> dtigue: #ubuntu+1
[18:22] <Myrtti> pleiades: keep the language clean and this channel only for Ubuntu support
[18:22] <dtigue> thanks
[18:22] <pietro10> escott: in fact that did the opposite
[18:22] <pleiades> i dont if ill ever understand that.. i just ignore them, ignoring is a fake expert on economics and everything else.. but ahhhh, debt keeps our economy going.. and everything else he knows he is related to bononbos maybe im half ginger half white so im a member yet i might drink one pitcher at the library on the no fly list these days i ate a whole in the hospital one of the house..
[18:22] <pietro10> I'm now getting no caps
[18:22] <arlo> How can i stream this link http://ptv.com.pk/ptvhome-live.asp to vlc media ?
[18:23] <escott> pietro10, perhaps you have some kind of shopt option set to ignore case?
[18:23] <pietro10> oh wait yes i am, it's just now first
[18:23] <xangua> !ops | pleiades
[18:23] <Myrtti> pleiades: keep the offtopic elsewhere, this is the last and final warning
[18:23] <indicator> escott: I did it
[18:23] <pleiades> and everyone knowsitsme
[18:23] <pietro10> escott: I'm not sure
[18:23] <btlinuxuser> ???
[18:23] <btlinuxuser> no one
[18:23] <indicator> escott: now, when trying to log into gnome, i notices that gnome-panel uses 100% of the cpu
[18:23] <indicator> no idea what
[18:23] <indicator> why *
[18:23] <escott> pietro10, shopt (no options) will dump all shopt options out for you
[18:24] <pleiades> have lived in santa monica several times..
[18:24] <matju> xangua: does this mean that I can't download it using Synaptic ? What do I have to do ?
[18:24] <xangua> btlinuxuser: you were told twice this is not the place, this channel doesn't support backtrack
[18:24] <Gentoo64> btlinuxuser, backtrack isnt supported here as said twice
[18:24] <_Neytiri_> I need some help with my system i cant install software  i have trtied apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove
[18:24] <pietro10> nocaseglob is off...
[18:24] <escott> indicator, could be having trouble parsing a config file or something. kill the panel and respawn it a few times. see if it gets better. if not you may need to blow away your gconf settings
[18:24] <escott> indicator, but are you booting straight to the gui at least?
[18:24] <arlo> How can i stream this link http://ptv.com.pk/ptvhome-live.asp to vlc media ?
[18:25] <btlinuxuser> ok, but bt is ONLY the wrapper. it is ubuntu minimal, with kde and i just want to copy my kde profile, that is not THAT bt secific, is it ?
[18:25] <acidrain> i am now getting relay access denied even after installing and properly setting up sasl
[18:25] <acidrain> any suggestions?
[18:25] <Chipzzz> xangua: matju: thank you both for raising the question... I like having that control available and didn't know there was one for oneiric :-)
[18:25] <indicator> escott: I am boot straight to gui, yes.. Thanks. When I kill gnome-panel, it just restarts, each time, taking up 100% of the cpu
[18:25] <twisel> escott short answer is no the 3tb drive is not showing up in proc/partitions   that other disk was a 160GB drive (usb ext ) as well
[18:25] <pietro10> the only glob option that's on is extglob
[18:25] <Roasted> Question - how do I format a drive to prepare it for raid usage? I was told I need to format it to "fd" but I don't know what that refers to.
[18:25] <indicator> escott: I didn't do anything special, but I wonder if something special is trying to start with it?
[18:25] <escott> crazyfork, so not sure where to go. the future bootloader is grub2, and it shouldn't make your situation worse to switch to grub2, but without know much about your previous boot i dont know if it will fix things
[18:25] <indicator> Hmm
[18:25] <xangua> matju: did you read the link? instructions are very explicit, Chipzzz also pasted a link with the same instructions
[18:26] <xangua> another*
[18:26] <pietro10> escott: should I try a bash channel?
[18:26] <Trevor69420> hmm i have a PNY usb drive that i am trying to flip the removable media bit on but i'm not sure
[18:26] <indicator> escott: I also noticed, when booting into grub, my terminal is definately not set at 1920x1280
[18:26] <btlinuxuser> will ask in kde forum.
[18:26] <indicator> I don't know how that was even affected
[18:26] <btlinuxuser> see ya.
[18:27] <escott> pietro10, i'm sure they would know the answer
[18:27] <dtigue> if im installing ubuntu and it hangs up on 'Configuring target system...' will i have to start over with the install ??
[18:27] <escott> indicator, so that you can change by specifying a kernel parameter, but what does glxinfo say? what renderer are you using?
[18:28] <escott> twisel, can you install gdisk and use it to figure out how this disk is partitioned
[18:28] <crazyfork> escott: ok.. btw is there any way i could help you know about my previous boot ?
[18:28] <indicator> escott: I couldn't tell you off hand as I cannot boot into gnome, but my guess would be direct-rendering
[18:28] <escott> crazyfork, if you had a backup of /etc or /boot/grub that would help if you don't then its just your memory
[18:29] <matju> xangua: thanks, now I installed it, but I don't know how to add it to the menubar.
[18:29] <ironhalik> could someone help me debug my VPN connection?
[18:30] <Chipzzz> matju: alt-f2 and type indicator-cpufreq to start it manually
[18:30] <twisel> escott its all gone pink (ish and frozen) on live CD  ...   rebooting
[18:30] <xangua> matju: run indicator-cpufreq
[18:30] <elling_> Hi, i am in nedd of some help, just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop and now i cant move my mouse(logitech g9) ..  its stuck at the bottom of the screen.    any ideas?    tnx
[18:30] <crazyfork> escott: :( .. I'll just reboot and try again. thanks escott for your helps
[18:31] <Chipzzz> matju: it should already be in your startup apps so it will run whenever you boot
[18:31] <escott> indicator, you might just want to mv .gnome2 and .config, .gconf to .gnome2_backup and .config_backup, .gconf_backup its a bit drastic
[18:31] <mtlaptop> hi
[18:31] <Roasted> anybody familiar with software raid? Having some issues here with my partition type and adding it the way I want to the array
[18:31] <LuizAngioletti> Howdy! Is there an specific channel for the Ubuntu-LTSP project?
[18:31] <mtlaptop> I can't start dhcp3-server
[18:31] <indicator> escott: odd, okay..
[18:31] <matju> xangua, Chipzzz: and how would I disable it without uninstalling it ? I'm not asking about this in particular, just about indicators in general.
[18:31] <indicator> escott: i'll try that
[18:32] <Chipzzz> matju: just uncheck it in your startup apps
[18:32] <mtlaptop> Can anyone helps me?
[18:32] <matju> Chipzzz: what's « startup apps » anyway ? How do I get there ?
[18:32] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: You'll get more help if you are more specific. Why won't it start? Does it give you an error? Did you check the logs?
[18:33] <mtlaptop> p1lot: syslog says:
[18:33] <hidihodihi> what's wrong with ubuntu's compiz? grid doesn't work like it's supposed to. left/right doesn't toggle window sizes, in the corners it works.
[18:34] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: use paste bin if it is going to be more than one line please
[18:34] <mtlaptop> p1lot: http://pastebin.com/JxphxEN6
[18:34] <Chipzzz> matju: click on "dash home" and type "applications" or "startup" in the search box... you'll see it
[18:34] <mtlaptop> do you understand that?
[18:34] <LuizAngioletti> Howdy! Is there an specific channel for the Ubuntu-LTSP project?
[18:35] <sacarlson> arlo: did you try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_qlt2nex_4
[18:35] <zykotick9> !alis | LuizAngioletti
[18:36] <crazyfork> escott: it is now working !! :)) Thanks a lot man
[18:36] <acidrain> this is odd. i can login through telnet using auth plain with sasl. but relay access is denied
[18:36] <LuizAngioletti> zykotick9: Thx! =D
[18:36] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: To be honest not totally but it says you don't have a subnet defined
[18:36] <mtlaptop> But there is one in my dhcpd.conf
[18:37] <escott> crazyfork, you will need to move up to grub2 eventually. probably better to do that before everyone in the channel forgets how grub1 works
[18:37] <arlo> sacarlson im using vlc media
[18:37] <matju> Chipzzz: « startup » doesn't do the job, but typing « démarrage » did.
[18:37] <arlo> but how can i find code
[18:37] <crazyfork> escott: lol okay. I'll upgrade to grub2
[18:37] <hidihodihi> hidihodihi: same problem here
[18:37] <hidihodihi> wrong channel, sorry
[18:38] <sacarlson> arlo: looks from that instruction video you don't need vlc media to record it but you can play the results there
[18:38] <crazyfork> escott: thank you so much again. take care man.
[18:38] <arlo> have you try my link
[18:38] <arlo> im using windows thats my problem
[18:38] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: what does your dhcpd.conf look like?
[18:38] <Trevor69420> it's terrible when a company doesnt offer a way to upgrade their BIOS with a simple linux script
[18:38] <Trevor69420> only windows
[18:38] <Trevor69420> that's BS
[18:39] <Chipzzz> matju: it might be convenient to either rename it or make a link to it
[18:39] <sacarlson> arlo: well if you noticed this is the ubuntu chat if you want a solution for windows try another chan
[18:39] <mtlaptop> p1lot: I don't understand you?
[18:40] <theadmin> Trevor69420: flashrom works with most BIOSes actually, just grab the actual firmware and use that to write
[18:40] <tjkent> arlo: what is wrong?
[18:40] <Roasted> Can GParted adjust a partition to "Linux RAID Autodetect" or must I use Disk Utility to do that?
[18:40] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: Can you paste bin your dchpd.conf?
[18:40] <escott> Roasted, safer to use fdisk because gparted might want to reformat and you dont want that
[18:41] <matju> Chipzzz: its name is perfect. I chose my language so that it is in my language. It's just that Unity makes it a lot harder to find things.
[18:41] <elling_> hi...just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop and now i cant move my mouse(logitech g9) ..  its stuck at the bottom of the screen, i have to connect another mouse to be able to use my computer.  any ideas. google didnt help :(
[18:41] <Roasted> escott, Disk Utility will do it without formatting it from what I can see. I was just surprised I didn't see the functionality in GParted.
[18:41] <Roasted> escott, btw when you said fdisk you menat terminal right?
[18:41] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: The default Debian install of DHCP doesn't bind it to any interface. This is to stop a default DHCP configuration from polluting the network. To bind and interface you need to make and entry in /etc/default/dhcp3-server for example:
[18:41] <matju> Chipzzz: anyway, thanks.
[18:42] <p1l0t> INTERFACES="eth1"
[18:42] <p1l0t> or eth0
[18:42] <escott> Roasted, well user friendly doesn't make things like changing partition types without reformating easier because usually you dont want to do that
[18:42] <Chipzzz> matju: i use cairo-dock, which gives you an apple os type launcher & lots of eye-candy... i recommend it highly
[18:42] <acidrain> adding gmail.com to mydestination in postfix does not make it work. it just says action untaken rcpt not in table
[18:42] <escott> Roasted, and yes i meant fdisk cli
[18:42] <bilegt> How to patch kernel that is downloaded from kernel.org in ubuntu?
[18:42] <p1l0t> mtlaptop: Read that off crazy squirrel http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/servers/dhcp.jspx
[18:42] <Roasted> escott, I'm a little confused. The Ubuntu Disk Utility allows me to change the partition type and I didn't get prompted to format. What's the harm in that?
[18:43] <zykotick9> !kernel | bilegt
[18:43] <sturd> I want to install the source code for Gnome on Ubuntu 11.10, but I'm not sure if I've done it right.  Do they still have a -src/-source suffix on packages?
[18:44] <zykotick9> sturd: "sudo apt-get source PACKAGENAME" might work?
[18:44] <_raven> ardour2 + mackie controller - ardour sends but mackie does not send any commands to ardour. any ideas?
[18:44] <escott> Roasted, there generally is no harm, unless you were to change it to the wrong type and some stupid application didnt verify. like if i claim ext4 is ntfs and someone looks at that and starts writing to it as if it were ntfs that would be bad
[18:45] <bilegt> btw, anyone has faced laptop overheating here?
[18:45] <sacarlson> bilegt: something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:45] <martian> bilegt: I usually face the other way
[18:45] <Roasted> escott, I see. I was simply doing it because in disk utility, it has the option to change the partition type to linux raid autodetect, which is what I wanted as I'm adding a hard drive to my mdadm software array. I thought you were inadvertently telling me, despite the feature being there, DONT use it.
[18:45] <sturd> zykotick9: that's worked for gedit, thanks!   :P
[18:46] <Chipzzz> bilegt: not personally but i know a couple of ways to cool a laptop down
[18:46] <escott> Roasted, no i was saying that gparted probably hides it because rarely used
[18:46] <sturd> *gtkfilesystemmodel.c, sorry XD
[18:46] <zykotick9> sturd: no idea, sorry
[18:46] <Roasted> escott, ahhhh I gotcha.
[18:46] <theadmin> !find gtkfilesystemmodel.c | sturd
[18:46] <theadmin> Meh
[18:46] <Roasted> escott, if you don't mind me picking once more, do you by chance know the cli command to change a partition type with fdisk?
[18:46] <escott> Roasted, i dont trust gparted for complex (data preserving) stuff
[18:46] <mehdi> ubottu, im having a problem running libreoffice
[18:47] <bilegt> Chipzzz: I hope upgrading kernel to 3.3(testing) might solve my problem.
[18:47] <Roasted> escott, ha, I hear ya. Just for destruction/construction of partition types when data preserving is not an issue - eh?
[18:47] <escott> Roasted, "t" i think
[18:47] <Abrackadabra> hi guys
[18:47] <brkolog> hello sister
[18:47] <cconstantine_> I'm getting back into iptables (I haven't used it in 10 years)... I've got an INPUT chain that I don't understand.  Is there anyway to get more info than what is printed by 'iptables -L INPUT'  ?
[18:47] <Chipzzz> bilegt: frequency scaling is easier and probably as effective
[18:48] <escott> Roasted, im sure gparted can do these things, but its easier to verify correctness with a dumb tool that doesnt try to do smart things
[18:48] <Roasted> escott, good point.
[18:48] <zykotick9> Abrackadabra: <OT> IT Crowd is awesome </OT>
[18:48] <sturd> ubottu:  I've just had an assertion fire in that file (apparently)
[18:48] <acidrain> so i can get mail. send mail to the local machine. but i cannot send mail outside of the local machine. can anyone help me to do this? ive tried everything i know
[18:48] <Roasted> escott, by chance when two raid drives are syncing, do you know if its possible to stop them?
[18:48] <escott> Roasted, not a good idea
[18:48] <sturd> I should have known...
[18:49] <escott> Roasted, you certainly can, but its best to let them finish, otherwise they just have to sync again later and "syncing" is always a sub-optimal state to be in
[18:49] <mehdi> ubottu, i use ubuntu 11.10 64-bit  i run libreoffice in terminal gives me no error it only shows the loading dialog and nothing happens its also not even take process
[18:49] <trishxo> can i upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 straight to ubuntu 11.10 rather than to 11.04?
[18:49] <escott> trishxo, no
[18:49] <zykotick9> trishxo: you can't skip releases
[18:49] <Roasted> escott, I'd like to stop the sync with the intention of blowing away the partition structure on the one drive, then I can re-sync later when I fix it.
[18:50] <sacarlson> acidrain: I ended up using some method that goes through google since they seem to require encrypted sites to accept mail on most mail sites now
[18:50] <|Anthony|> so i've installed sun's java and have been playing minecraft without much headache for about 2 weeks. But now, it crashes severely. I'll be playing for about 5 minutes and it starts to throttle Xorg and the system crashes. I get pushed out to the gdm login. Any one have any thoughts?
[18:50] <escott> Roasted, yeah but do you know that drive1 has a full and complete copy right now?
[18:50] <escott> Roasted, you are assuming syncing is only going one way, but with both drives active...
[18:50] <acidrain> sacarlson: but ive had a mail server setup and properly working 5 months ago. then i come back to my box after its been stored away, and i have this issue with resetting everything up
[18:51] <acidrain> sacarlson: i wiped the hdd
[18:51] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: it sounds like either the cpu or gpu overheating
[18:51] <|Anthony|> mmm
[18:51] <Roasted> escott, I had 2 drives, A and B. I took drive B offline, formatted it, and began to re-sync it. A is my active drive with 100% of my data. I ASSUME (i know, bad word) the data is only going 1 way since drive A has the entire copy of all of my data.
[18:51] <Roasted> escott, I'd like to blow away B and re-add it later. Bad idea?
[18:51] <|Anthony|> let me try this again and watch the temps
[18:51] <albroz> could not update .ICEauthority file <-- ubuntu 11.10, googled and tried with no use. any help please
[18:51] <escott> Roasted, i think its fine but verify with mdstat that drive A is complete before bouncing B from the array
[18:52] <|Anthony|> where would i find the crash report?
[18:52] <|Anthony|> i don't see any in /var
[18:52] <martian> mehdi: what happens when you run "libreoffice -writer" in a terminal?
[18:52] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: /var/log
[18:52] <escott> albroz, open a terminal and ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[18:52] <Roasted> escott, thoughts?
[18:52] <Roasted> er
[18:52] <_raven> ardour2 + mackie controller - ardour sends but mackie does not send any commands to ardour. any ideas?
[18:52] <Roasted> http://pastebin.com/JkRs2CZt
[18:52] <|Anthony|> there isn't any crash logs there
[18:52] <sacarlson> acidrain: maybe you already used google or sent mail to unecrypted sites or already had encryptions setup?  I was lazy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GmailPostfixFetchmail
[18:52] <albroz> owner is th right user
[18:53] <ZioTantaLana> ciao
[18:53] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: anything in kern.log?
[18:53] <ZioTantaLana> list!
[18:53] <zykotick9> !it | ZioTantaLana
[18:53] <lalalalo> Hi. I'm looking for people familiar with ejabberd or jabber in general.
[18:53] <viktor133> if you have a 64-bit processor, is it possible that hardy heron 32-bit and win xp 32-bit run, but maverick meerkat doesn't?
[18:53] <escott> Roasted, i think you are ok to kick sdb1 because sda1 is UP. but its been  while since ive used mdadm, and ive never actually done this
[18:53] <IvanDiessa> ciao
[18:53] <Roasted> escott, so you dont know how to nuke the sync?
[18:54] <Roasted> I wonder if --stop /dev/md0 would do it...
[18:54] <twisel> escott finally rebooted and loaded gdisk (sudo apt-get) aand run it in terminal it just says the version and type device filename or press enter to exit
[18:54] <albroz> escott, owner is albroz
[18:54] <ZioTantaLana> list!
[18:54] <mehdi> martian, it says try this libreoffice --writer so i tried it but when i run that it shows nothing
[18:54] <escott> Roasted, don't stop the array. remove sdb1 from it
[18:54] <albroz> tried chmod to 644 and 777 with no use
[18:54] <Roasted> escott, busy
[18:54] <martian> mehdi: nothing? what if you just run libreoffice without any options?
[18:54] <karthick87> How to get harddisk size alone using grep ?
[18:55] <karthick87> How to get harddisk size alone using grep ? i.e  250 GB etc ..
[18:55] <mehdi> martian, its shows only the loading dialog
[18:55] <zykotick9> karthick87: "df -h"
[18:55] <cyborg_> how to go into backtrack group?
[18:55] <sacarlson> albroz: did you use wubi to install from windows on your ubuntu system?
[18:55] <zykotick9> !backtrack | cyborg_
[18:55] <twisel> escott also disk management (gui utility) says there are no filesystems which you are allowed to mount /dismount
[18:55] <ZioTantaLana> ciao
[18:55] <ZioTantaLana> list!
[18:55] <zykotick9> !list | ZioTantaLana
[18:56] <albroz> sacarlson, no id a clean install, no other OS
[18:56] <cyborg_> join #backtrack-linux
[18:56] <IvanDiessa> !list
[18:56] <karthick87> zykotick9: That wont give the output as i expected.
[18:56] <acidrain> is there not a quick fix for postfix relay access denied that just makes my system vulnerable? i would rather do that then suffer any longer lol
[18:56] <escott> Roasted, so if sda1 is complete then shutdown and disconnect should be safe, you would have to come back up degraded. you can get some more info about your situtation with mdadm --detail and mdadm --examine
[18:56] <Roasted> escott, good thought... let me do that...
[18:57] <zykotick9> karthick87: no sorry, if you only want the size, you'd have to use cut or something else.  Honestly, I'd ask in #bash if i where you.  Good luck.
[18:57] <escott> twisel, sudo gdisk /dev/sdX
[18:57] <Roasted> escott, thanks!
[18:57] <escott> twisel, replacing X with the device letter
[18:57] <cyborg_> join /backtrack-linux
[18:58] <zykotick9> cyborg_: it's "/join #backtrack-linux"
[18:58] <sacarlson> albroz: sorry I thought you couldn't modify the priv's with chmod, so I don't have a handle on your problem
[18:58] <albroz> :)
[18:58] <twisel> escott whats the device letter??
[18:58] <cyborg_> zykotick9:tnks
[18:58] <albroz> thanks sacarlson, checking logs if i could find anything
[18:58] <IvanDiessa> !list
[18:58] <twisel> escott since its not appearing anywhere it hasn't been assigned a letter
[18:59] <zykotick9> IvanDiessa: spanish or italian?
[18:59] <IvanDiessa> italian
[18:59] <escott> twisel, probably b or c. this is external usb correct. so you can plug/unplug and look at dmesg to see what it got assigned to
[18:59] <zykotick9> !it | IvanDiessa
[18:59] <z0mbie> :O
[18:59] <LjL> zykotick9: please don't send !list'ers to #ubuntu-it (although this specific one was perhaps only doing it in imitation), they won't be served any better there.
[19:00] <azertyui> hi
[19:00] <azertyui> how to configure dynamic ip with an static host ?
[19:01] <IvanDiessa> grazie
[19:01] <wad> Hi folks. I've got Ubuntu running on a VPS. It hosts my websites and my email. I'd like to back it up to my local machine, here at home, every week. It's currently got 38 GB on the filesystem. Any suggestions?
[19:01] <sacarlson> azertyui: sure you don't have that reversed like set a static address with a dynamic dhcp recieved address?
[19:02] <dr_willis> !backup
[19:02] <wad> dr_willis, thanks! I'll check those out.
[19:02] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, the gpu was @ 76C and the cpu was at 43C when it just crashed
[19:03] <sacarlson> azertyui: oh or maybe like http://www.no-ip.com/
[19:03] <ZioTantaLana> ciao
[19:03] <|Anthony|> and there are no logs that i can find pertaining to the state when it crashed
[19:03] <ZioTantaLana> ciao
[19:03] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: that's pretty cool for a cpu, but the gpu may not have liked it
[19:03] <|Anthony|> the gpu has recently been up to 98C
[19:04] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: ...although 76C isn't all that hot either
[19:04] <|Anthony|> it runs normally at ~65C
[19:04] <|Anthony|> but why would xorg be throttled?
[19:05] <kenyabob> what is the point of supplying an existing UID when creating a new user?
[19:05] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: how does it tell you that?
[19:05] <|Anthony|> conky
[19:05] <twisel> escott dmesg (after turning on caddy ) lists usb 5-1 with error-71 last message reads unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[19:05] <|Anthony|> ;)
[19:05] <azertyui> sacarlson: i don't get about reverse dhcp
[19:06] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: the frequency scales down?
[19:06] <escott> twisel, so its either bad disk, bad caddy or bad usb something
[19:06] <|Anthony|> both are overclocked
[19:06] <viktor133> i'm trying to figure out if i have the right version for installing ubuntu, thus what processor i have. is it possible that hardy 32-bit works on a 64-bit processor, and maverick doesn't??
[19:06] <sacarlson> azertyui: well reverse would require modifing the dhcpd config to provide a static address to a mac address on your network but I think you might what the oposite as stated with http://www.no-ip.com/
[19:07] <dr_willis> 32bit os works on 64bit cpu
[19:07] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i should mention that this issue didn't start until after i installed minecraft server
[19:07] <|Anthony|> the stand alone game worked without much headache before that
[19:07] <|Anthony|> but
[19:07] <viktor133> dr-willis, then why can't i install maverick?
[19:07] <|Anthony|> the server doesn't need to be running for the crash
[19:07] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: ah... does the game run with the cpu running at normal freqs?
[19:07] <forbidden404> Guys, I have a Livecd with some files, how can I catch these files in my ubuntu?
[19:07] <ry> i'm having a problem, basically i have a NFS share mounted from one server, on another, it was working fine, and now when i attempt to even "cd" to the directory (on the client side) the console locks up, meaning if i do a "cd /media/le<tab for autocomplete>" the console is forever frozen at cd /media/le, no ctrl+c ends, it's completely stuck
[19:07] <viktor133> dr_willis, then why can't i install maverick?
[19:08] <escott> viktor133, there could be other issues, but it wouldnt be the 32bit vs 64bit
[19:08] <ry> i've tried restarting the nfs server, on the server end (and i'm able to access the nfs server from other systems as well with no issue) but any attempt to access this share on that system, locks the console up
[19:08] <dr_willis> viktor133:  no idea - not seen any details about your issue
[19:08] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, the cpu scaling is disabled in bios
[19:08]  * forbidden404 want to catch files from a Live cd
[19:08] <|Anthony|> so it's set at 3.38
[19:09] <forbidden404> Someone knows how to catch files from a Livecd? Please ):
[19:09] <ry> does anyone have any ideas? keywords i might use to search for a solution... i'm not turning up anything via google (obviously not searching for the thing)
[19:09] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: is that overclocked?
[19:09] <escott> forbidden404, catch? what does that mean?
[19:09] <forbidden404> get the files
[19:09] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, yes from 2.6
[19:09] <forbidden404> they're in my Livecd, I want to pass them to my Ubuntu
[19:09] <sacarlson> ry: it has worked in the past?
[19:09] <viktor133> escott, i installed windoze xp 32-bit before on it, which showed two processor cores of 3,2 GHz, is it possible that this is the in fact one 64-bit core of the same clock speed?
[19:09] <escott> forbidden404, so why not just mount the livecd and grab them?
[19:09] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: does the game run ok @ 2.6?
[19:09] <ry> yes
[19:09] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, intel celeron e3400
[19:10] <forbidden404> WHen I open the cd on Ubuntu, I cant find the files
[19:10] <forbidden404> it's like... they're hide
[19:10] <forbidden404> or something
[19:10] <escott> forbidden404, then they are inside the casper image you need to loop mount that
[19:10] <ry> this has happend to me before, on this machine, i was unable to diagnose the problem
[19:10] <sacarlson> ry: I should say it was working in the past on this system with the same ip address?  or did the ip address change?
[19:10] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i haven't tried... been oced for quite some time
[19:10] <ry> both times connected to the same nfs server
[19:10] <forbidden404> escott: How I do this?
[19:10] <azertyui>  correct sacarlson i got  public dynamic ip
[19:10] <ry> no, everything is the same as it was last night
[19:10] <azertyui> http://www.no-ip.com/ would be the best solution
[19:11] <sacarlson> azertyui: then no-ip.com should work for you then
[19:11] <ry> i've checked rpcinfo, checked the stats of both systems, nothing is standing out
[19:11] <azertyui> how to configure with http://www.no-ip.com/ with a Dlink modem ?
[19:11] <Kdeuser> Guys, would this command work fine or will break or "partially install" something in my system? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[19:11] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: for it to crash after a while it would either have to overheat somewhere or have a stack underflow of some sort...
[19:12] <escott> forbidden404, what files are you trying to get? and is this a persistent usb?
[19:12] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: 5 min or so is a very long time for an underflow...
[19:12] <theadmin> Kdeuser: It will work, it's a well-known guide
[19:12] <forbidden404> Is a Cd-ROM, files... they're codes, programming codes
[19:12] <sacarlson> ry: well on nfs the only security that I know it the ip address so if you don't have a static address then if it changes you might have a problem
[19:13] <ry> yeah, this isnt a security problem though
[19:13] <escott> viktor133, no. the only reason i can think you would only see one cpu is if you were not running smp. there are some boot flags acpi issues that can lead to up on smp capable hardware. !paste us your dmesg
[19:13] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: I would try running it at 2.6 to see how it behaves... maybe you just can't oc it and run such a cpu/gpu intensive app
[19:13] <Jef91> Anyone know where I can find source code for the Ubuntu ncurses system installer that the alternative CD uses?
[19:14] <mehdi> martian, did u find how to fix libreoffice problem?
[19:14] <Kdeuser> theadmin: All right, with a good computer (multicore at 3.2ghz and 16gbs ram) and good internet connection (24mbs) won't take more than 2 hours, right?
[19:14] <DocVell> QUESTION: Currently I use Ubuntu with WUBI, and in the folder it has the disk image file that stores everything I have with my distro, is there a way to when I go full hard drive to copy it over and I don't lose anything or do I have to just back up my data and re-install all my software and make sure I have all my p/w written down
[19:14] <escott> Jef91, alt installer is pretty much the standard debian installer. i would check the debian project
[19:14] <azertyui> after what i can see on their website no-ip.com noip require to install as a software on a pc to able to update with their ip sacarlson
[19:14] <theadmin> Kdeuser: Should take less than, like, ten minutes with a connection like that...
[19:14] <Jef91> I know escott - but I am looking for the Ubuntu package source for it
[19:14] <zykotick9> escott: s/pretty much//
[19:15] <Kdeuser> theadmin: And last question. Should I use it on a tty so it will prevent using a gnome-terminal?
[19:15] <martian> mehdi: google :) just searched for the original error message that you told me
[19:15] <viktor133> ascott, i don't have a dmesg, i'm still trying to get that box to work, i'm just trying to be sure that it has a 64-bit in stead of a 32-bit as i first assumed, thus the question if that could make me see 2 cores in stead of one on a 32-bit win xp
[19:15] <escott> DocVell, theoretically you can migrate, but its always a good idea to take backups
[19:15] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, what i'm saying is that there was no issue with game play or overall system stability until after i installed minecraft server. But since then, when playing minecraft (even without starting my server) it crashes in like 5 minutes. Is there some change that the installation of the server part of minecraft could have made to the sun jre?
[19:15] <martian> karthick87: still here? I got bored and solved your problem
[19:15] <sturd> I've just installed the GTK+ source package, but I can't find it.  Can anyone help me find it?
[19:15] <theadmin> Kdeuser: Well, the software doesn't get removed if it's currently used (currently opened files don't get deleted, see "man 2 unlink"), so you can run it in your current gnome setup, OR in a tty
[19:16] <DocVell>  that's ok by me then as I don't have much on it, I was going that route to see how it would work.
[19:16] <viktor133> escott (repeat, had the name wrong), i don't have a dmesg, i'm still trying to get that box to work, i'm just trying to be sure that it has a 64-bit in stead of a 32-bit as i first assumed, thus the question if that could make me see 2 cores in stead of one on a 32-bit win xp
[19:16] <DocVell> Thanks :)
[19:16] <azertyui> wht i require is  : i don't want to leave on my pc 24Hours that's why i prefer to use my router sacarlson
[19:16] <escott> viktor133, you likely have a one core SMP HyperThreading system. so it should always report two cpus, but there are acpi issues that can cause the kernel to be unable to bring up the other cpu
[19:16] <Kdeuser> theadmin: All right then, thank you a lot.
[19:16] <azertyui> do you get ?  sacarlson
[19:16] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: i can't say for sure but i would be surprised
[19:17] <dr_willis> can xp even handle dual cores?
[19:17] <escott> viktor133, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/smp-kernel-and-acpi%3Doff-614311/
[19:17] <indicator> escott: fixed :-)
[19:17] <escott> indicator, good. was worried when you didnt come back for so long
[19:18] <viktor133> dr_willis, don't know i just found out that pentium 4 actually had later 64-bit versions
[19:18] <indicator> escott: only problem I see now is why grub doesn't boot at the same resolution anymore
[19:18] <L3top> Anyone give me any clues as to how to change the bootsplash for a livecd? The root image was debootstrapped from ubuntu 10.04 server, building kubuntu... and swapping back and forth is confusing and ugly. I know it has something to do with syslinux and plymouth, but am not really sure how to adjust the initrd.
[19:18] <escott> indicator, you can change that by modifying the /etc/default/grub to include a modeline to pass to the kernel
[19:18] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[19:18] <twisel> escott when the device is turned on ASMedia Technology Inc appears on Bus 7 Device 3 when running lsusb....  so it see's something
[19:19] <L3top> ty ubottu
[19:19] <indicator> escott: that seems to be set, "GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080
[19:19] <indicator> but, of course, something has yet again gone wrong
[19:20] <mehdi> martian, i kill myself seaching tried everything but couldnt find it :(
[19:20] <escott> indicator, so that might just be the grub mode and not the kernel mode. the kernel needs its own modeline as a kernel arg
[19:20] <escott> twisel, but it does something that gets it kicked from the bus later
[19:21] <indicator> escott:"linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-12-generic root=UUID=c0a1feb4-8790-4ac8-8d1e-878875c74c7a ro   quiet splash malloc=1024MB vt.handoff=7"
[19:21] <nate_h> hey does anyone know how to set priorities for repos?
[19:21] <indicator> that is the line in grub.cfg
[19:21] <nate_h> it seems like one of my repos has a higher priority then the one with the later package
[19:21] <azertyui> hi
[19:21] <azertyui> anyone there ?
[19:21] <azertyui> how to configure dynamic ip with an static host ?
[19:21] <viktor133> escott, how would you be able to (if at all) found out more exactly the specs of your hardware if you don't have a working operating sys? srry if this is a far-fetched question
[19:22] <escott> viktor133, well you have a system that does work its just older
[19:22] <jn_> Anyone know how to disable vertex-shader in wine?
[19:22] <escott> indicator, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer
[19:22] <sacarlson> azertyui: didn't you read the info provided on no-ip.com?  there is a package noip2  I think that supports it
[19:22] <zykotick9> nate_h: to check repo priority run "apt-cache policy" the number on the left side determins priority
[19:23] <viktor133> escott, uhm yes, but untill i found out what i can install on it, it doesn't
[19:23] <twisel> escott  think you may have missed the dmesg answer I gave earlier
[19:23] <acidrain> i can send emails outside of local network if i auth myself. what i dont understand, is why is squirrelmail not authing?
[19:23] <martian> mehdi: this is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/762167
[19:23] <nate_h> zykotick9, so then how do I set it?
[19:23] <twisel> but dmesgnow brings up more <escott>
[19:23] <zykotick9> nate_h: not sure.
[19:24] <azertyui> ok let me check sacarlson
[19:24] <sacarlson> azertyui: more details seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[19:24] <twisel> excott unable to read RDB block 0
[19:25] <twisel> escott unable to read RDB Block 0
[19:25] <ross_> i just installed 11.10 recently and I was wondering why does my screen show what it appears to look like a full screen terminal every time it comes back from the stand by mode
[19:25] <twisel> escott sda: unable to read partition table
[19:25] <mehdi> martian, i cant open launchpad due to sanction or site blocking by the country
[19:26] <tjkent> ross_: try pressing ctrl+alt+f7
[19:26] <escott> twisel, sounds like a bad disk. you might want to attach it directly and check the smart status
[19:26] <ross_> tjkent: it's not that - it's when i close my laptop down, and open it up, before presenting the login screen, there is a short moment when it presents what appears to be a full-screen terminal
[19:26] <twisel> escott doesn't want to be a bad disk, its new (about 2 weeks old) :(
[19:26] <escott> viktor133, 32bit should always work. so you should be able to boot a 32bit at least to cli and can then look at /proc/cpuinfo
[19:27] <tjkent> what does it say?
[19:27] <viktor133> what's cli?
[19:27] <escott> twisel, a very large number of drives fail within the first weeks or month
[19:27] <mehdi> ubottu, i actually fix that problem
[19:27] <Chipzzz> viktor133: command line interface
[19:27] <escott> twisel, thats why we have RMA
[19:28] <viktor133> escott, can i go to cli with an install-cd?
[19:28] <azertyui> thanks sacarlson i go to check
[19:28] <twisel> escott tell me about it, Im on ubuntu coz my Win7 OS disk died after a month ssd as well :(
[19:28] <escott> viktor133, i understand you aren't getting a full gui boot but if you can get to a rescue terminal on the install cd you can figure some things out
[19:28] <dbugger> Is there anyway to make that folders in Nautilus appear different than the default icon? For example, if I have 3 folders with music, and I want the to show the cover of each album...
[19:29] <twisel> escott ok going to shut down and take it out of the caddy and plug it directly in to the board
[19:29] <escott> twisel, ssd is another can of worms
[19:29] <sacarlson> mehdi: wow what country would care if you went to a launchpad ppa site?  what country is that?
[19:30] <CaBa> can one still install sun java from the ubuntu repo in lucid?
[19:30] <escott> CaBa, i believe no. ubuntu can no longer distribute
[19:30] <indicator> escott: I don't think it's a matter of just increasing the resolution. It was fine, but something has changed (internally, and I didn't touch it)
[19:30] <Chipzzz> dbugger: open a properties window for the folder in question, click on the icon in the upper left and select a new one
[19:30] <mehdi> sacarlson,  more its sanction
[19:30] <JPeterson> how do I list all special /dev folders? /dev/null /dev/zero etc
[19:30] <mehdi> that i cant goto that site
[19:30] <tjkent> ross_: you still there
[19:30] <tjkent> CaBa: you should be able to
[19:31] <ross_> tjkent: yes
[19:31] <dbugger> Chipzzz, that was easy thanks!
[19:31] <sacarlson> mehdi: what country would sancton that?
[19:31] <CaBa> tjkent: i don't find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[19:31] <Chipzzz> dbugger: :-)
[19:31] <indicator> escott: you know how the ubuntu logo is supposed to show and stuff? Well on a 4th of the screen shows 'ubuntu' in some low font, no more good image
[19:31] <indicator> not sure
[19:31] <zykotick9> CaBa: if you need sun-java get it from oracle
[19:31] <escott> indicator, you've been switching graphics drivers. when the kernel sees the prop drivers it runs a vga framebuffer so as not to screw up the prop drivers
[19:31] <tjkent> ross_: what does the terminal looking screen say, does it have anything or is it just the server taking a second to load x?
[19:32] <CaBa> zykotick9: not an option, it *has* to be exactly the package that was available in lucid
[19:32] <mehdi> im from iran, we got sancted
[19:32] <ross_> tjkent: ok hold on brb - it happen s in a flash
[19:32] <forbidden404> escott: sorry, I had to leave, but I'm back, like I said, the LiveCD is a CD-ROM with programming codes of my class
[19:32] <zykotick9> CaBa: i hope you have a personal backup of that package then...
[19:32] <sacarlson> mehdi: then find a proxy to get around it
[19:32] <escott> forbidden404, cdroms are not persistent. if it was a file you created its gone
[19:33] <tjkent> CaBa: lemme take a look real quick I know a place that might have it
[19:33] <forbidden404> Idk how, escott, but when I put the livecd and run, the files are there, wasnt me that did the codes, they were there yet...
[19:33] <mehdi> sacarlson, do u have problem with libreoffice?
[19:33] <forbidden404> they came with the cd
[19:33] <ross_> something about disabling irq#17 - that's the bottom line
[19:33] <escott> forbidden404, in that case they are in the squashfs. so mount the cd and browser into casper
[19:34] <Chipzzz> mehdi: tor might solve your proxy problem
[19:34] <L3top> one last question, using the d-i preseed/late_command to run a small script overwriting /etc/X11/default-display-manager... do you know how I would specify the new install target in that script?
[19:34] <martian> mehdi: oh jeez, that's so absurd. What if you used http://translate.google.com/ as a proxy for it?
[19:34] <sacarlson> mehdi: no not that I know of?  they only sancted porn here
[19:34] <escott> forbidden404, there is a squashfs file in there which you can mount with "sudo mount -o loop /media/path/to/cd/casper/file.squashfs /media/squashfs/"
[19:34] <tjkent> CaBa: just out of curiousity why do you need that one?
[19:34] <forbidden404> escott: I will try it now
[19:34] <CaBa> tjkent: company policy, that one is installed on 23 lucid machines
[19:35] <mehdi> i can fix my proxy problem i wanna run libreoffice only help plz
[19:35] <indicator> escott: speaking of graphics drivers... The current nvidia driver in the repository is old... o_o
[19:35] <indicator> really old
[19:35] <tjkent> you could try changing your sources file then downloading it
[19:35] <indicator> debian style
[19:35] <escott> indicator, what version of the OS are you running
[19:35] <zykotick9> CaBa: if the package is installed on other machines, check /var/cache/apt/archives to see if the DEB(s) are still there
[19:36] <Thepler> Does anybody know how to fix the No Disk Space error message?
[19:36] <martian> mehdi: regardless, it basically said that once you install those missing packages that it should work.
[19:36] <tjkent> CaBa: so instead of it saying /(whatever distro you are using) /lucid
[19:36] <indicator> escott: 11.04
[19:36] <sacarlson> mehdi: you might try just change your repostory to anther country.  some schools don't have all the files
[19:36] <CaBa> zykotick9: that i already did for all machines, not there anymore
[19:36] <escott> indicator, it should be current as of 4/1/11 or thereaboute
[19:36] <martian> mehdi: also, now that you installed those missing packages, perhaps try removing your ~/.libreoffice folder again
[19:36] <CaBa> tjkent: what?
[19:37] <Thepler> How do I free up disk space when I have none?
[19:37] <indicator> escott: it is not... debian style old :-|
[19:37] <indicator> still works I guess
[19:37] <mehdi> martian, wat are those packages?
[19:37] <zykotick9> Thepler: how big is your apt cache?  "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[19:37] <escott> indicator, debian style old? debian never had these drivers
[19:38] <indicator> escott: I meant overall... Not nvidia in particular lol
[19:38] <martian> mehdi: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[19:38] <Thepler> Zykotic: How do I check that? Sorry total noob here
[19:38] <zykotick9> Thepler: in terminal "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[19:38] <zykotick9> !tab | Thepler
[19:38] <sacarlson> Thepler: check with accesory>disk usage analizer  to find what files you don't need are taking up some of your needed space
[19:39] <escott> indicator, check http://packages.ubuntu.com/ i dont know what version is the newest for your release
[19:39] <Thepler> I just downloaded ubuntu over windows, what should I do?
[19:40] <sacarlson> Thepler: put the iso file on a usb flash drive and install it.  there are programs to do that in windows but I'm not sure what the name is
[19:40] <CaBa> tjkent: forget it, i checked the ubuntu repo, the files are still on the server... i'll just have to download them manually
[19:40] <twisel> escott disk appears and is readable when plugged directly into sata on the board....
[19:41] <CaBa> tjkent: they were just removed from the Packages / Release files
[19:41] <Ebron> Thepler: you can use unetbootin to put it on usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[19:41] <twisel> escott are there any downloadable drivers for usb 3.0 caddies?  although it was recognised in lsusb?
[19:41] <smokestory> hi
[19:42] <indicator> escott: it's old.. 270.41.06 is much older than 295.20
[19:42] <smokestory> jest ktos pl?
[19:42] <escott> twisel, more likely a bad caddy or a bad connection to the caddy. its possible that the caddy needs to understand gpt and doesn't, but i would think it would be pass-through
[19:42] <mehdi> martian, i tried that it only fixes the error which shown in terminal
[19:42] <indicator> escott: any way I make install the more recent driver without breaking ubuntu? :-(
[19:42] <acidrain> i have win7 on an internal hdd. how can i run that using virtualbox?
[19:43] <martian> mehdi: right, so maybe you should try deleting your .libreoffice folder in your home directory now
[19:43] <tjkent> acidrain: I don't think that is possible
[19:43] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i found what seems to be causing the crash
[19:43] <|Anthony|> Fatal IO error 11
[19:43] <twisel> escott as for physical caddy problems, that wouldn't explain why Win7 works fine with it
[19:43] <acidrain> tjkent: so pretty much i have to have the image file?
[19:43] <tjkent> CaBa: ok glad I could kinda help?
[19:43] <zykotick9> tjkent: it might be possible, using RAW something or other.  acidrain ask in #vbox
[19:44] <tjkent> yea I think you pretty much have to pull it from an image file
[19:44] <zykotick9> acidrain: PS it's "Not recommended"
[19:44] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: fascinating... (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:44] <escott> twisel, i dont know enough about usb-mass storage. you could google around and see if there is a known gpt/usb mass storage issue
[19:44] <tjkent> acidrain: I just dual-boot so I don't really use it, but I know that my system could not handle that
[19:44] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: any idea what resource?
[19:45] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, not yet... but i assume you have an idea?
[19:45] <mehdi> martian, i delet that folder
[19:45] <tyler-riddle> hello. I am trying to use headphones on ubuntu, but they wont play any sound. The speakers work, but not the headphone jack. Can someone help me?
[19:45] <escott> indicator, installing the non-apt jockey-gtk version is going to cause headaches because the kernel and the module need to be kept in sync and apt will do that for you. otherwise you have to do it yourself
[19:45] <tjkent> tyler-riddle: you need to specify it in your sound settings
[19:45] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: sorry... not yet, but i'll mull it over :-)
[19:46] <L3top> ubottu: Do you know, using the d-i preseed/late_command of my preseed.cfg to run a small script overwriting /etc/X11/default-display-manager on the target install, how I would specify the target in that script?
[19:46] <tyler-riddle> How do i do that?
[19:46]  * L3top doesn't want to believe that
[19:46] <L3top> lol
[19:46] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i should post the line the precedes it too: Placed stronghold in INVALID biome at (58, 23)
[19:46] <|Anthony|> that refers to minecraft
[19:46] <viktor133> escott, is "clflush size" the instruction set size of your cpu?
[19:47] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: did you try running it at 2.6... and if so, what happened?
[19:47] <|Anthony|> not yet
[19:47] <tjkent> do you see the speaker thing in the top left corner of your screen
[19:47] <escott> viktor133, if it is 64bit it will list "lm" in flags. clflush size is the size of a cache line flush
[19:48] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i tried using the open source java, it didn't fail, but it was laggy as hell and x was again using 1 cpu @ 100%
[19:48] <tjkent> right click and go to sound settings
[19:48] <tyler-riddle> Yes, i have the menu open
[19:48] <tjkent> go to output
[19:48] <tyler-riddle> Im there
[19:48] <tjkent> drop down menu for connector
[19:48] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: how many cores do you have?
[19:48] <tyler-riddle> Okay
[19:48] <Canadian1296> Where should I go for Apache 2 support?
[19:49] <matatouille> hello all
[19:49] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, 2
[19:49] <tjkent> do you see analog speaker/analog headphone?
[19:49] <tyler-riddle> I only have analog output
[19:49] <martian> Canadian1296: #httpd I think
[19:49] <viktor133> escott, lm in flags, so i best install the amd64 version?
[19:49] <tjkent> ok go to hardware
[19:49] <Canadian1296> martian: Thanks :)
[19:49] <tyler-riddle> Im on hardware tab
[19:49] <tjkent> what do you see?
[19:50] <tjkent> how many devices do you have?
[19:50] <tyler-riddle> Internal audio, 1 output, analoh stereo output
[19:50] <tyler-riddle> Thats it
[19:50] <jaha> has anyone successfully converted a filesystem from ext3 to ext4 on rackspace? looking for some help with ubuntu 11.10
[19:50] <escott> viktor133, means you are 64bit capable. whether or not that is !best i dont know
[19:50] <tjkent> internal audio
[19:50] <matatouille> i am trying to get into a lvm but i don't know what kind of filesystem it is, qnybody knows xen citrix?
[19:50] <jaha> bascially i need to change filesystems live on root
[19:50] <tyler-riddle> Yeah
[19:50] <tjkent> click that then go down to profile
[19:51] <yiier> hello I loved UBUNTU upto 10.04... I am a webdevloper / programmer. I am finding it hard to work with Unity ... any one help and suggest me what Desktop Environments will be good for progarmmers or developers
[19:51] <tyler-riddle> Okay
[19:51] <escott> jaha, must be done with the partition umounted
[19:51] <tjkent> analog stearo output
[19:51] <viktor133> escott ok thnks
[19:51] <tyler-riddle> Okay
[19:51] <tjkent> back to output
[19:51] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: that sounds like a memory error...
[19:51] <tjkent> is there anything there for connector?
[19:51] <yiier> hello I loved UBUNTU upto 10.04... I am a webdevloper / programmer. I am finding it hard to work with Unity ... any one help and suggest me what Desktop Environments will be good for progarmmers or developers
[19:51] <escott> jaha, but otherwise all you should need to do is call tune2fs to enable extents and whatever other features you want and modify fstab
[19:51] <bartek__> hay
[19:52] <yiier> hello I loved UBUNTU upto 10.04... I am a webdevloper / programmer. I am finding it hard to work with Unity ... any one help and suggest me what Desktop Environments will be good for progarmmers or developers
[19:52] <bartek__> i have problem
[19:52] <tjkent> yiier: you are gonna get kicked by freenode if you keep spamming
[19:52] <polite> Hi. I am running ubuntu on old laptop with 480 MB RAM which is oviously not enough. Does anyone know any good guides about how to optimize ubuntu for such low systems?
[19:52] <escott> yiier, what do you not like. i think unity gnome3 are great for developers
[19:52] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, hmm really? i haven't tinkered with the bios for mem settings. Also i have 8GB DDR2
[19:52] <martian> yiier: same here. I went back to 11.04 (as it still has the 'ubuntu classic' option). Try out Xubuntu!
[19:52] <tjkent> polite look into kbuntu
[19:52] <roasted> hi
[19:52] <wiel> can i stop PUTTY from deleting text when there is too much on the screen?
[19:53] <bartek__> my english is easy
[19:53] <tjkent> wiel why are you using putty?
[19:53] <martian> wiel: yes, in the settings you can set the scrollback buffer
[19:53] <tjkent> you can do ssh from terminal
[19:53] <polite> tjkent doesn't require  kubuntu even higher system?
[19:53] <martian> tjkent: he or she may be using windows as a client to an ubuntu server
[19:53] <chronofast> has anyone used cinnamon instead of unity? is it possible?
[19:53] <cigue> Hey guys, I want to start developing stuff for Ubuntu but I don't know where to start.
[19:53] <yiier> tjkent, my apologies...
[19:53] <twisel> escott thanks for your time, I think I'm just going to leave the disk plugged directly into the board until I have a new ssd OS disk and install win7 again
[19:53] <roasted> Question - In Ubuntu's Disk Utility when I have a RAID array going, I have an option to "add component", which I thought was to add more drives to the array. However, even though I have an unformatted "Linux RAID Autodetect" hard drive listed with no data on it, it's grayed out as an option. Yet sudo mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 works great to add it. Does that feature in Disk Utility do something different and I was misunderstand
[19:54] <tjkent> yiier: try "awesome"
[19:54] <cigue> Is it good practice to maintain and fork software that's been abandoned?
[19:54] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: i really think you should try it at 2.6 to see what happens... maybe the cpu or gpu is too fast for the memory when they heat up
[19:54] <zykotick9> chronofast: people have tried, then showed up in this channel with issues.  If you want cinnamon, use mint.
[19:54] <jaha> escott: i just did that and restarted, had to fix filesystem (auto) on reboot but it seems to be working… how can I verify that it is indeed ext4 now?
[19:54] <bartek__> i have problem su
[19:54] <escott> roasted, if you know how to do it on the cli. why do you care what the gui does?
[19:54] <roasted> escott: personal curiosity to be honest.
[19:55] <martian> cigue: you may be better off asking about this in #ubuntu-devel
[19:55] <yiier> escott, see i use netbeans for the IDE, so when i debug my code with break points I have to toggle between browser and IDE for checking results.... which is annoying
[19:55] <tjkent> polite: I thought it was kubuntu, but it might be xubunut
[19:55] <yiier> Can anyone tell what is XUBUNTU
[19:55] <dillinger417> escott: I figured out then when users are added to a group as a primary group, that it doesn't reflect in /etc/group for that group (presumably bc it is listed in /etc/passwd now)
[19:55] <tjkent> ubuntu using xfce display
[19:55] <martian> yiier: it's ubuntu with XFCE as the main interface
[19:55] <|Anthony|> Chipzzz, i'll tinker with that, but i'm doubtful :/
[19:55] <srini_> hi
[19:56] <yiier> tjkent, "awesome" i didnot get you
[19:56] <martian> yiier: google it :-P
[19:56] <escott> jaha, with ext filesystems the dilineation between 2,3,4 is fuzzy. ext4 is ext3+extents which is the "big" ext4 feature. there are others though
[19:56] <Canadian1296> cigue: Or if you're looking at app development then try #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:56] <DJones> !xubuntu | yiier
[19:56] <tjkent> awesome is a tiling interface
[19:56] <sanjeev> good day
[19:56] <jaha> escott: thanks
[19:56] <escott> dillinger417, yeah that would make sense
[19:56] <Chipzzz> |Anthony|: it's a strange problem, but i would eliminate that before digging into the more exotic possibilities
[19:57] <yiier> martian, is XFCE similar to GNOME2... i somehow love Gnome2... switching back from unity to gnome2... didnot bring the actual gnome2 stuff..
[19:57] <zykotick9> tjkent: i personally use awesome, but i'd never recommend it to anyone - to complicated for most users.  yiier
[19:57] <escott> dillinger417, sorry i didnt think to verify that
[19:57] <yiier> zykotick9, what is awesome? please tell me
[19:58] <zykotick9> yiier: trust me, you don't want it.
[19:58] <dillinger417> escott: np. ty for help.  I also ran grpck and pwck w/o errors so I think I'm good.
[19:58] <escott> yiier, there are tiling plugins for gnome3 and unity does tile as well. i very much like the tiling + dash workflow
[19:58] <tjkent> zykotick9: there are plenty of guides for it
[19:58] <sanjeev> could it be possible to load ubuntu OS in my LG android phone?
[19:59] <tjkent> sanjeev: you do know that android is a linux os right?
[19:59] <sanjeev> yes
[19:59] <tjkent> ok
[19:59] <yiier> escott, i read some where even Linus Torvalds thinks GNOME3 is an unholy mess...
[19:59] <tlhonmey> sanjeev:  From what I've heard, yes, but it's quite a bit of work to configure it to work nicely.
[19:59] <martian> yiier: are you on 11.04 or 11.10? yes, it's... similar-ish. It's a good lightweight traditional-ish interface
[20:00] <BlueProtoman> Help!  I can't log in!  The log in screen won't accept keyboard input!  (Ubuntu 11.04)  I'm on Recovery Mode on this computer, so I know the keyboard is not broken.
[20:00] <yiier> escott, for me both Unity and gnome3 destroyed my geekish behaviour
[20:00] <sanjeev> tlhonmey, great
[20:00] <lion42> sanjeev, yes, it's possible. However, it's quite an involved process where a lot of things can go wrong. Unless you are willing to do quite a bit of research and accept the liability for turning your phone into a paperweight, I wouldn't recommend it yet.
[20:00] <escott> yiier, and he seldom has opinions ;) but whatever works for you, but the more specific you can be about what you dont like the more specific the suggestions can be
[20:00] <yiier> escott, XFCE is it good for programmers... so that they can avoid all these UI stuff
[20:01] <escott> BlueProtoman, does the keyboard work at all? does the numlock light come on?
[20:01] <sanjeev> @lion42, @tlhonmey, any hardware specification for loading the OS in android mobile,
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> escott: This keyboard doesn
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> This keyboard doesn't have NumLock.
[20:02] <escott> BlueProtoman, does it have lights?
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> Yes, but only for Caps Lock.
[20:02] <yiier> martian, on 11.10..my lenovo thinkpad T510 series has serious issues with 11.10... it doesnt shut down properly
[20:02] <escott> BlueProtoman, and does that work?
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> YOU TELL ME
[20:02] <martian> escott yiier: a childish dock thing that can't be moved and has no settings, moving the menu's to the top of the screen like we're on MacOS7, a silly obtrusive search thing that's likely only useful for people who have no idea what they're doing, and a pathetic selection of customization options for the panel... for starters :)
[20:02] <blumonkey> i need to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 from 10.04, to do this i need to use unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive; however the version of ubuntu i have does not list ubuntu in the drop down menu. please help
[20:03] <ch33z> I need help
[20:03] <BlueProtoman> (KIDDING)
[20:03] <indicator> escott: hmm, well thanks for the help man.. Appreciate it. I'll probably tinker around with the drivers and such later, when I don't feel like enduring a headache
[20:03] <indicator> I'm off
[20:03] <viktor133> considering i have only 512MB of mem, perhaps, i386 would be the better choise to install?
[20:03] <BlueProtoman> Any thoughts, escott?
[20:03] <Kircle> How do you change the size of the viewports in the expo screen?
[20:03] <escott> viktor133, with an older p4 i think thats reasonable
[20:03] <yiier> martian, what are you referring too...11.10 unity?
[20:03] <Chipzzz> ch33z: no doubt... can you be more specific
[20:03] <Sloofus> Anyone have any news of Ubuntu's progress getting more android manufacturers on board for their desktop/phone integration?
[20:03] <escott> BlueProtoman, does the capslock light come on?
[20:03] <BlueProtoman> Yes.
[20:03] <martian> yiier: oh yeah 11.10 is gnome3. I just downgraded back to 11.04 after a week or so on 11.10 and am still quite happy, but I will likely be moving to xubuntu or cinnamon once ubuntu drops support for this
[20:04] <tlhonmey> sanjeev:  I only have a dumbphone, so I haven't experimented much with loading alternative OSs on them.  There are probably instructions available on the web though.
[20:04] <escott> BlueProtoman, try ctrl+alt+f1 see if it takes you to a terminal
[20:04] <ch33z> yes, sudo cp /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[20:04] <ch33z> how come this command doesnt work
[20:04] <escott> ch33z, copy it where?
[20:04] <ch33z> I am trying to set up the basic virtual hosts
[20:04] <martian> yiier: unity and gnome-shell/gnome3 all seem very half-baked IMO but this is getting rather #ubuntu-offtopic so I digress :)
[20:04] <ch33z> in the manual
[20:04] <Chipzzz> ch33z: you didn't specify a destination
[20:04] <ch33z> o
[20:04] <tyler-riddle> hello, i was talking to someone about an issue with headphones
[20:05] <Chipzzz> :-)
[20:05] <tlhonmey> blumonkey: If you're just wanting to upgrade, have you tried running gksudo update-manager -c?
[20:05] <ch33z> in the manual it said to load that command to create a directory for virtual hosts
[20:05] <sanjeev> @tlhonmey, recently i got my hands on used LG 600Mhz (ARM processor) device, so thought of giving a try in it
[20:05] <ch33z> so Chipzzz how do I create a directory?
[20:05] <tyler-riddle> the speakers work fine, but the headphones dont. any ideas?
[20:05] <yiier> xubuntu looks promising for me... does it have Long term support
[20:05] <Chipzzz> ch33z: sudo mkdir /directory/name
[20:05] <ch33z> ah forgot that haha
[20:06] <ch33z> im still gettingback into the the linux world
[20:06] <Chipzzz> :-)
[20:06] <ch33z> just small things are bleh
[20:06] <Chipzzz> welcome home :-)
[20:06] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues.
[20:06] <Jon--> How do I do this?
[20:06] <escott> yiier, xubuntu should be fine for some time
[20:06] <matju> anybody is having «freezes» involving gnome-screensaver-dialog just disappearing from the screen, making it impossible to type the password for unlocking ? I have to Ctrl+Alt+F1, kill the process of that name and a new one automatically appears in the foreground. This looks very much like a bug. I have to do that several times a day.
[20:06] <ch33z> so with that sudo mkdir /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[20:06] <tlhonmey> sanjeev:  How to do it varies a lot from device to device.  You'd be best off looking for the model number on the web and seeing what you can find.
[20:06] <ch33z> instead of default i put "shadyapps
[20:06] <dillinger417> is there any reason to use password -l over usermod -l or vis versa?
[20:06] <ch33z> as a website
[20:07] <ch33z> it would create a directory as shady apps to ftp the files for such
[20:07] <blumonkey> tlhonmey: i read that i shouldn't upgrade from a release that was more than one behind.
[20:07] <blumonkey> also i wanted to use unetbootin for something else as well
[20:07] <yiier> canonical should create a deskop environment for geeks, programmers which consume less memory
[20:07] <escott> dillinger417, usermod -L but no difference between the two
[20:07] <sanjeev> @tlhonmey, yeah searching them in web and android related forums
[20:07] <yiier> what say guys?
[20:07] <martian> Jon--: log out, and after entering your username and password in the login screen, select 'ubuntu classic' from the menu at the bottom of the screen before logging in
[20:08] <Chipzzz> ch33z: if memory serves /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is the default file that you would copy to another file name after the server you want to create... lemme find you some directions... hang on
[20:08] <ch33z> mhm
[20:08] <tlhonmey> blumonkey: The upgrade process in general can cause issues depending on how much you've customised your system.  My suggestion at that rate would be to download the standalone unetbootin and the ISOs of anything you want to use with it.
[20:08] <zykotick9> yiier: your question is OT, but why re-invent the wheel?  There are lots of DEs / WMs to choose from.
[20:08] <sanjeev> @tlhonmey, its LG p350, most of the document says on root access to it
[20:08] <ch33z> thanka
[20:08] <ch33z> thanks*
[20:08] <dillinger417> escott: cool.  Can i unlock an account locked with usermod -L w/ password -u (or vis versa)?
[20:09] <Jon--> martian, I'm sorry but this is a very specialized case. We have xsession all set to use classic ubuntu but it's still using unity-window-decorator in .xsession.errors. I am doing an ltsp PXE boot of about 250 workstations, those with hardware compatibility issues with unity fail to load gnome-panel. I have done apt-get purge --auto-remove on all unity* with ii and it still attempts to use the decorator. Any ideas?
[20:09] <yiier> zykotick9, name some for me please.. xfce is ok..any other?
[20:09] <BlueProtoman> escott, still here?
[20:09] <escott> dillinger417, they both do the same thing ! the passwd in shadow so both should be the same
[20:09] <blumonkey> tlhonmey: okay thanks, ill try it with the 11.10 iso, but for some reason it will not work with the linuxcoin iso which i have already downloaded
[20:09] <tlhonmey> sanjeev: Well, you almost always need to get root access before you can change the operating system.  How to go about actually loading a different OS though is usually very hardware specific.
[20:09] <BlueProtoman> Odd, it seems that my login screen takes keyboard input now, but only if I hold a key for a few seconds.
[20:09] <[AJS]> doing a minimal install - when I boot all I get is a flashing cursor - is there any way to get a prompt?
[20:10] <escott> BlueProtoman, did ctrl-alt-f1 take you to a login terminal
[20:10] <martian> Jon--: oh hmm... nope :) Unity is a disease that is hard to cure
[20:10] <tlhonmey> blumonkey: there are many different ways to create live CDs, and unetbootin doesn't necessarily work with all of them.
[20:10] <[AJS]> escott: no
[20:10] <BlueProtoman> escott, yes, I just didn't know how to bring it back to X.
[20:10] <BlueProtoman> So I reset.
[20:10] <sanjeev> @tlhonmey, true, i am searching for those kind of hardware specific information
[20:10] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't)
[20:10] <escott> BlueProtoman, it would be ctrl-alt-f7, but you can login at that point and run "top" to see if anything is hogging the cpu
[20:10] <zykotick9> !desktop | yiier there are others
[20:11] <Chipzzz> ch33z: here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[20:11] <ch33z> thanks!
[20:11] <yiier> !Flavors
[20:11] <tyler-riddle> so can someone help me?
[20:11] <sanjeev> @tlhonmey, initially wanted to try only xwindow and video /audio sessions
[20:11] <BlueProtoman> escott, I didn't have to worry about it before today, though.
[20:11] <blumonkey> tlhonmey: can you suggest an alternative to unetbootin for making a bootable usb?
[20:11] <martian> yiier: https://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+cinnamon+desktop
[20:12] <martian> !ask | tyler-riddle
[20:12] <danileigh79> blumonkey: pendrive inux
[20:12] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't)
[20:12] <danileigh79> blumonkey: pendrive linux
[20:12] <zykotick9> blumonkey: if you are talking about an 11.10 ISO and using gnu/linux, just cat the ISO to your USB
[20:12] <tlhonmey> blumonkey: It's often possible to simply install to the usb device without any special tools as well, depending on the distro's installer setup.
[20:12] <yiier> thanks guys... i will give it a try
[20:12] <[AJS]> hi
[20:13] <ch33z> hmm Chippzz this looks promising
[20:13] <tyler-riddle> I am having headphone issues on my ubuntu 11.10. the speakers work great, but when i plug the headphones in, via the headphone jack, i get no sound. is there a way to fix this? i really need my headphones to work
[20:13] <Chipzzz> good luck :-)
[20:13] <ch33z> also chippzz how do i change permissions when ftping cuz i could see all my linux files in transmit the ftp program but couldnt write cuz i didnt have permissions
[20:13] <tlhonmey> blumonkey: There are a few articles available for optimizing for running off of flash if you decide to go that route.
[20:13] <[AJS]> i did a minimal install - when i rebooted all i got was a flashing cursor and no prompt. How do i get a prompt?
[20:13] <danileigh79> tyler-riddle: sounds like a hardware issue
[20:14] <tyler-riddle> and how do i fix this hardware issue? or am i just screwed?
[20:14] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't). Please help me guys, trying to set up PXE clients for a competition :(
[20:14] <ch33z> its kinda odd too since i just typed in the ip and it connected ha;0
[20:14] <danileigh79> tyler-riddle: Did the headphones work before installinig ubuntu 11.10?
[20:14] <Jon--> xsession.errors contains unity-window-decorator references, despite all of unity being purged on that box
[20:14] <Chipzzz> ch33z: sudo chmod 644 /directory/to/be/changed
[20:14] <martian> tyler-riddle: if you select the speaker icon in the notification area, select 'sound preferences' and click the 'output' tab, you can check to make sure things are... good. try adjusting the settings or something there
[20:14] <tyler-riddle> yes, they worked wonderfully when i used windows
[20:14] <ch33z> ah cool
[20:14] <Chipzzz> :-)
[20:15] <ch33z> lol is that real?
[20:15] <tyler-riddle> i have tried the settings several times, no luck.
[20:15] <Chipzzz> what?
[20:15] <ch33z> the command
[20:15] <tlhonmey> I'm trying to salvage a mailbox that went blooey.  Are there any recommendations for a program that can read arbitrary mail files and parse embedded pictures and such and move things into a standard mailbox format without complicated setup?
[20:15] <sanjeev> @<tlhonmey> thanks mate, will join back this chat session with more updates
[20:15] <jrib> Chipzzz, ch33z: you usually want execute permission on directories
[20:15] <VIPER-II> guys, how do i remove a while directory including it's contents without needing to go manually in to remove contents first?
[20:16] <jrib> VIPER-II: rm -r
[20:16] <VIPER-II> aight
[20:16] <VIPER-II> t
[20:16] <VIPER-II> tx
[20:16] <tyler-riddle> perhaps its an issue with the drivers? or perhaps they're not identifying properly
[20:16] <Chipzzz> ch33z: actually, 644 isn't right for writing... you'd want 777 to write from any account
[20:16] <nannes> guys how my 3g key could be desappeared from lsusb??? :(
[20:16] <matju> I'm having «freezes» involving gnome-screensaver-dialog just disappearing from the screen, making it impossible to type the password for unlocking. I have to Ctrl+Alt+F1, kill the process of that name and a new one automatically appears in the foreground. This looks very much like a bug. I have to do that several times a day. Does anyone else have this problem ?
[20:16] <dillinger417> Any idea how to change the message that appears when a user is prompted to change their password?
[20:16] <tlhonmey> VIPER-II man rm for a full list of options, it can do quite a few neat things.
[20:17] <VIPER-II> nice
[20:17] <VIPER-II> it worked
[20:17] <VIPER-II> thanks....
[20:17] <VIPER-II> be seeing ya
[20:17] <FloodBot1> VIPER-II: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <dreamy_> !offtopic
[20:17] <danileigh79> tyler-riddle: not likely, headphones activate when the hardware senses them inserted, I have a similar issue on another laptop of mine, it's hardware, and the headphone jack is likely damaged
[20:18] <Chipzzz> ch33z: or 677 (turn off the execute bit so you don't get too easily hacked)
[20:18] <ch33z> ha yea
[20:18] <echo083> hello
[20:18] <Chipzzz> ch33z: sorrt... 666
[20:18] <jrib> Chipzzz, ch33z: you usually want execute permission on directories
[20:18] <Chipzzz> *sorry*
[20:18] <echo083> i'm boring can i help smbdy about anything ?
[20:18] <ch33z> its fine ;0
[20:19] <tlhonmey> tyler-riddle: I've seen a couple of systems where plugging in the headphones activates them, but the volume control for headphones vs speakers was separate.  Check your mixer if you haven't already.
[20:19] <Chipzzz> jrib: it's his ftp destination directory... i'd be nervous about allowing execution there
[20:19] <ch33z> hmm
[20:19] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: execute (applied to directories) means a user can enter that directory - useful wouldn't you say?
[20:19] <jrib> Chipzzz: can't really do much with a directory that isn't executable
[20:20] <tlhonmey> Chipzzz: execute bit on the directory sets whether or not the user is allowed to view the contents.
[20:20] <tyler-riddle_> also, my network card is messing up a lot as well. thats the reason i've had to type my issue out no less than 5 times...
[20:20] <Chipzzz> lol... i didn't realize that! i have to try that out
[20:20] <ch33z> omg my head is gonna explode haha
[20:20] <mneptok> ch33z: chmod -R 644 /path/to files && chmod -R -x+X /path/to/files
[20:20] <vitos1978> ciao!
[20:21] <danileigh79> tlhonmey: never seen a linux sy6stem act that way, only Windows...
[20:21] <vitos1978> !addon
[20:21] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't). Please help me guys, trying to set up PXE clients for a competition :(. xsession.errors contains unity-window-decorator references, despite all of unity being purged on that box.
[20:21] <ch33z> the goal im going for is to just upload basic html files ha to 2 sites hosted on a static ip
[20:21] <mneptok> ch33z: that makes /path/to/files have read/write only for owner, and read for everyone else. the second command goes through the same directory structure, re-adding the executable bit for the directory entries that need it.
[20:21] <tyler-riddle_> linux is going to be the death of me, first my headphones, and now my network card is messing up
[20:21] <ch33z> hmm alright
[20:22] <vitos1978> !list
[20:22] <danileigh79> Jon--: You'd have to dl/install something *other* than 11.04 or 11.10, Unity is built into those versions
[20:22] <zykotick9> vitos1978: no warez here - LjL ;)
[20:22] <tlhonmey> danileigh79: It depends a lot on the hardware, if the speakers and the headset jack are kept independent of each other it's sometimes set up that way so you can use the headset and the speakers at the same time.
[20:22] <sveinse> How can I the cheapest way run a command as an ordinary user from init? This is on natty, so there is no setuid stanza in upstart
[20:22] <zykotick9> LjL: changed the factoid, nice
[20:22] <danileigh79> tlhonmey: Not on a laptop... integrated sound functions better that way
[20:22] <jrib> sveinse: can you use the @reboot designation in the user's crontab?
[20:23] <danileigh79> tlhonmey: unless it's one of those new media computers...
[20:23] <tyler-riddle_> can someone suggest a linux distro to use? ubuntu isnt working  at all
[20:23] <sveinse> jrib, good idea, but I need it to be an upstart service
[20:23] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't). Please help me guys, trying to set up PXE clients for a competition :(. xsession.errors contains unity-window-decorator references, despite all of unity being purged on that box.
[20:23] <Chipzzz> tlhonmey: thanks for that about the directory access... i never realized it
[20:23] <tlhonmey> danileigh79: I've seen two or three laptops that did it with various versions of ubuntu.
[20:23] <jrib> sveinse: use su -c I guess
[20:23] <ch33z> mk this is odd
[20:23] <viktor133> what program can i use to burn an image on a usb-stick? (i know it isn't burning, but it isn't just copying, so?)
[20:23] <ch33z> from when apache is installled
[20:24] <danileigh79> Jon--: I already sent you the help you need, you cannot purge Unity, you need to insall an older distro that doesn't come with unity
[20:24] <jrib> sveinse: you could see what apache does
[20:24] <tlhonmey> tyler-riddle_: Personally I've found Linux Mint Debian to be pretty versatile.
[20:24] <tjkent> Jon--: I tried to do that, you are gonna have to pick a different distro of linux or an older distro of ubuntu
[20:24] <ch33z> it already has the default as /etc/apache2/apache2.conf but i get no command found.
[20:24] <tyler-riddle_> really? i'll look into it then.
[20:24] <danileigh79> tlhonmey: Hmmm, gonna have to look into that, never heard of a laptop having more than one sound output with integrated sound chipsets
[20:24] <DJones> viktor133: An ubuntu iso/image?
[20:24] <zykotick9> viktor133: are you "burning" from a gnu/linux host system?  and is it the 11.10 ISO?
[20:24] <tyler-riddle_> tlhonmey: thanks
[20:24] <viktor133> DJones, yes
[20:24] <hng123> anyone knows where I can get download the ubutu image?
[20:24] <DJones> !usb
[20:24] <tjkent> tyler-riddle_: did you get your sound problem fixed
[20:25] <viktor133> zykotick9, yup
[20:25] <Guest63088> bonsoir
[20:25] <Chipzzz> ch33z: its a config fole, not an executable
[20:25] <ch33z> ah gotcha
[20:25] <matju> Chipzzz: it's why chmod -R +x on a tree is quite hard to undo, as you have to protect directories using find -exec or find|xargs
[20:25] <Hosman> Bonsoir
[20:25] <zykotick9> viktor133: "cat file.iso > /dev/USBDEVICEWITHOUTPARTITION#"
[20:25] <DJones> viktor133: See those links that ubottu just listed, you need to use usb creator
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> !fr| Hosman
[20:25] <tlhonmey> danileigh79: One of the ones that did it if I recall correctly was a Toshiba Portege 2300 running 8.04
[20:25] <DJones> viktor133: Assuming you're using Ubuntu
[20:25] <Hosman> french chat ?
[20:25] <Jon--> tjkent, I can't do that, the competition is in two days. We have no issues with the NVIDIA machines, but the Intel machines attempt to use Unity and fail, despite removing all unity packages locally to test.
[20:25] <ch33z> "You can edit this file to configure the Apache2 server. You can configure the port number, document root, modules, log files, virtual hosts, etc."
[20:25] <matju> Chipzzz: i mean, the «find» command is hard for beginners.
[20:26] <danileigh79> viktor133: Pendrivelinux.com is a very reliable tool for creating a liveusb
[20:26] <tjkent> jon try to load classic ubuntu at the log in screen
[20:26] <zykotick9> DJones: 11.10 is a hybrid iso, just using cat (or dd) works
[20:26] <danileigh79> viktor133: and yo ucan also install to the system from the same program too :)
[20:26] <viktor133> Djones, from and too
[20:26] <sveinse> jrib: I think apache has setuid() built into the app. su can be used (and I am today) but it spawns the app as a sub process instead of calling exec. So I'm searching for a better method which doesnt leave su and sh in the process tree
[20:26] <Jon--> I need to fully purge unity from 11.04 for hardware compatibility issues. Any ideas? I need to actually purge it, setting xsession does not fix the error (they're all set to use classic, and don't). Please help me guys, trying to set up PXE clients for a competition :(. xsession.errors contains unity-window-decorator references, despite all of unity being purged on that box.
[20:27] <Chipzzz> matju: couldn't it be undone with a chmod -R +x and then chmod 644 or something?
[20:27] <viktor133> danileigh79, i don't understand your second comment
[20:27] <danileigh79> Jon--: Please stop asking the same question over and over, we told you it cannot be done
[20:27] <DJones> zykotick9: I've never needed to do that, usb creator has always worked for me
[20:27] <Trevor69420> Jon-- if u want a PXE server just use Ubuntu Server
[20:27] <danileigh79> viktor133: You can create a liveusb, and from that live usb, you can install ubuntu to the hard disk if you wish
[20:27] <Hosman> anyone french here ?
[20:27] <Trevor69420> also if you use Ubuntu Server I think u can just add Gnome classic to it without unity
[20:27] <zykotick9> !fr > Hosman
[20:27] <Trevor69420> that'd be equal to purging
[20:28] <danileigh79> !fr | Hosman
[20:28] <viktor133> danileigh79, ah, k, that's the id :)
[20:28] <Jon--> Trevor69420, There is no time for this we have a fully customized image with ltsp booting Ubuntu clients. Including scripts, custom installs, configuration.  Are you serious?
[20:28] <Hosman> ok thx
[20:28] <Trevor69420> consolation for who?? not me lol i dont care either way just suggesting if you use ubuntu server you can then add the gnome classic to it
[20:29] <Trevor69420> jon-- watch your language
[20:29] <Trevor69420> giving u some suggestions
[20:29] <|Anthony|> did sun-java6- recently get removed from the partner repos?
[20:29] <viktor133> danileigh79, one more thing, i can use this on a running OS right, the specific box doesn't boot from usb
[20:29] <martian> Jon--: perhaps you're better off asking on the forums as there's a greater audience
[20:29] <viktor133> ?
[20:29] <danileigh79> Jon--: It's built in on top of Gnome, it's not installed, it's part of the OS
[20:29] <Jon--> I understand you're just trying to help, but really, all we have to do is force gnome-classic... xsession is set, unity is purged, still fails.
[20:29] <Jon--> What am I missing?
[20:29] <Jon--> It's impossible to use the old gnome2 decorators?
[20:29] <danileigh79> viktor133: yes
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Jon--  try gnome --replace
[20:30] <viktor133> danileigh79 ok thnks
[20:30] <danileigh79> Jon--: You're not missing anything, unless you want to rewrite the whole OS, Unity doesn't go away
[20:30] <tjkent> Jon--: ^^^
[20:30] <Jon--> MonkeyDust, did you mean gnome-panel?
[20:31] <tjkent> Jon--: listen there is not really a way to get around it with the current install that you have
[20:31] <danileigh79> And if yu want to get rid of Unity THAT bad, try xubuntu, kubuntu, or one of the other frontends
[20:31] <Jon--> Alright, perhaps we can hack this out then. What is the binary that allows the alt+f2 shortcut? As far as I can tell, all I have to do is manually run gnome-panel + this after login, and everything runs fine.
[20:31] <zykotick9> Jon--: "foo --replace" is for windows managers, which "gnome" and "gnome-panel" are not.
[20:31] <Jon--> danileigh79, I don't "want to", I have to. It isn't a matter of ideology. The net boot on the Intel machines doesn't load a gnome-panel. Anyone who doesn't know Linux well is going to have no idea what to do to fix this.
[20:32] <Jon--> zykotick9, I figured he meant metacity or compiz. :P
[20:32] <zykotick9> Jon--: yup
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Jon--  correct, long time no see 'metacity' :)
[20:32] <tjkent> Jon--: just make your own "flavor" of ubuntu with the server
[20:32] <Jon--> And since I am net booting over 200 machines, I don't have the resources to run unity.  Either I restart from scratch and probably don't get it configured in time for the competition.
[20:33] <Jon--> Or I hack together a script to run gnome-panel and the other missing binaries post boot, which you can do manually.
[20:33] <Jon--> I am leaning for #2
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> good luck
[20:34] <tlhonmey> Jon--: Linux Mint is ubuntu-compatible and doesn't use Unity, so your customizations might port over easily.
[20:34] <Akls> what is the best password length for ubuntu?
[20:34] <escott> Akls, as long as you can comfortably remember
[20:34] <Jon--> So, again, anyone know what binaries need to be on to enable alt+f2 shortcut? :P
[20:34] <tlhonmey> Jon--: Or you might try just installing xubuntu-desktop and removing gnome-desktop.
[20:34] <Canadian1296> Akls: At least 90 characters, alphanumberic no repetition.
[20:34] <zykotick9> Akls: think passsentence instead of password
[20:35] <escott> Canadian1296, that would actually be a fairly weak password as the character set is fully defined its only the 90! combinations to worry about
[20:35] <Akls> not funny. which is the minimum, when it's becoming hard to break it?
[20:35] <Jon--> tlhonmey, gnome-desktop not found. Did they rename the package when they moved to unity?
[20:35] <escott> Akls, http://xkcd.com/936/
[20:35] <dreamy_> !music
[20:35] <dlentz> gnome-desktop = ubuntu-desktop
[20:35] <tlhonmey> Jon--: Probably.
[20:35] <Canadian1296> Escott: alphanumeric with symbols and spaces.
[20:36] <dlentz> actually, i don't think it was ever gnome-desktop
[20:36] <escott> Canadian1296, im commenting on the "no repetition" part
[20:36] <tlhonmey> Akls: http://www.grc.com/ppp/design.htm  I use this on my high-security machines.
[20:36] <woldhekkie> contorl alt F2 does it
[20:36] <tlhonmey> Akls: There's a PAM module that's pretty easy to install.
[20:36] <Canadian1296> escott: I meant simply don't use one word over and over and over... Like passwordpasswordpasswordpassword...
[20:36] <Jon--> Issue: gnome-panel and other GNOME apps don't run automatically. Soln: Install a new WM or a new distro. Can anyone help me with Soln2: ... Script run what's missing? ;)
[20:36] <Canadian1296> tlhonmey: As do I
[20:36] <zykotick9> Jon--: do you mean gnome-desktop-environment package perhaps?
[20:36] <dreamy_> !help
[20:37] <dreamy_> !ubuntu studio
[20:37] <woldhekkie> Jon ctrl alt F2 does it
[20:37] <Canadian1296> dreamy_: Do that in a private conversation so you don't flood this room ( /msg ubottu !help )
[20:38] <Jon--> woldhekkie, ... ctrl+alt+f2 is a tty.
[20:38] <dreamy_> Canadian1296: i was already doing that.. ops..
[20:38] <dreamy_> ok
[20:38] <woldhekkie> sorry just came in, thought you were looking for that
[20:38] <dreamy_> Canadian1296: is there a room for linux musicians
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> dreamy_  try #ubuntustudio
[20:39] <Jon--> woldhekkie, I am having hardware issues w unity. I've been told I can't use decorators besides unity. Means I either have to reinstall and reconfigure an image for the programming competition I'm pxe booting with ltsp, or I have to script run the things not being auto run. If you do ctrl+alt+t gnome-panel & after login you get a working gnome-panel. All applications work. I am missing alt+f2 run application support. I can't see anything else
[20:39] <Jon--> missing.
[20:39] <Jon--> sorry for tl;dr.
[20:40] <Chipzzz> Jon--: gnome-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are tasksel tasks, not apt-get packages, if memory serves
[20:40] <|Anthony|> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Sun_Java_moved_to_the_Partner_repository
[20:40] <|Anthony|> what is the situation with this
[20:40] <matju> Chipzzz: i don't understand... when having done chmod -R +x, doing chmod -R +x again has no effect at all. The only thing you can do is suppose that regular files can be -x and directories shouldn't, and filter accordingly using find -type d | xargs chmod -x or find -type -d -exec chmod -x '{}' ';'
[20:40] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: there never was a gnome-desktop package/tasksel
[20:40] <|Anthony|> has it been removed from the partner repos too?
[20:41] <dlentz> |Anthony|, ubuntu is using openjdk as the replacement for sun java
[20:41] <escott> |Anthony|,
[20:41] <escott> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[20:41] <Jon--> We have other setup to do, I don't think I have time to use an alternative de or distro. So, I'm left with this issue: right an autoran script for all users, or all users from group x, on a Ubuntu system. This script needs to run gnome-panel, and enable alt+f2.
[20:41] <Jon--> right=write*
[20:41] <captainjamie> what's the best file extension for images to be used on a pdf? I don't want them to blur because they'll be svg diagrams from inkscape first, exported as a normal image.
[20:41] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: ubuntu-desktop?
[20:41] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: that exists as a package ;)
[20:41] <escott> captainjamie, keep them as a vector format
[20:42] <captainjamie> escott: can't I don't know how in LaTeX
[20:42] <captainjamie> escott: They don't seem to show
[20:43] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: i see it in tasksel too
[20:43] <escott> captainjamie, probably a better conversation to have in #latex. but if you are using pdflatex to compile you should make a pdf directly from your svg
[20:43] <Abrackadabra> hi guys
[20:43] <Jon--> We have other setup to do, I don't think I have time to use an alternative de or distro. So, I'm left with this issue: write an autoran script for all users, or all users from group x, on a Ubuntu system. This script needs to run gnome-panel, and enable alt+f2.
[20:43] <captainjamie> escott: OK thanks
[20:44] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: ...along with xubuntu desktop, kubuntu, and other goodies
[20:44] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: gnome-desktop != ubuntu-desktop
[20:45] <|Anthony|> escott, i saw that link in a google search but hadn't clicked it yet... wow
[20:45] <Chipzzz> zykotick9: true, & I don't see gnome-desktop in here
[20:45] <Abrackadabra> i want to create a user who is restricted to do everything but to run programs in his directory. how should i do so?
[20:45] <micael> hi
[20:45] <zykotick9> Chipzzz: that would be due to the fact it doesn't (never did) exist
[20:45] <tlhonmey> Jon--: I'm pretty sure it's gnome-panel that manages keyboard shortcuts, of which alt-F2 is one.
[20:45] <Chipzzz> lol
[20:45] <Chipzzz> that would explain it
[20:45] <micael> ola
[20:46] <micael> algum pt
[20:46] <Jon--> I need to wite a script for all users on startup, or all users from group x, on a Ubuntu system. This script needs to run gnome-panel, and enable alt+f2. Can I do this with /etc/skel, or is there a better solution/place for this?
[20:46] <tlhonmey> Chipzzz: It's ubuntu-desktop.  I got confused.  Been a while since I'd looked at it.
[20:46] <Chipzzz> tlhonmey: me too...
[20:47] <Chipzzz> tlhonmey: i often find "apropos" useful in such  situations
[20:47] <tlhonmey> Jon--: /etc/skel is where the user defaults will come from, so that's probably the easiest way to do it.  Put it into the things that Gnome runs on startup maybe.
[20:48] <tlhonmey> Chipzzz:  That only helps if you look it up and aren't assuming that your cached copy in memory hasn't been corrupted.
[20:48] <tlhonmey> Chipzzz: ;)  :P
[20:49] <Chipzzz> ;)
[20:50] <Dioxin> X11 forwarding question, is it possible to forward to a different computer, I'm on A ssh'd to B and I want the X11 forwarded to C
[20:50] <Chipzzz> Dioxin: i would think you'd have to ssh in from c
[20:50] <escott> Dioxin, you can double forward. ssh C->A->B
[20:50] <tlhonmey> Dioxin:  Yes, it's possible.
[20:51] <Chipzzz> how?
[20:51] <tlhonmey> Dioxin:  The X11 protocol lets you push the connection from any machine to any display that will accept the connection.
[20:51] <Abrackadabra> how should i create a user who cannot read or write anything?
[20:51] <escott> Abrackadabra, is the guest account not what you want?
[20:52] <tlhonmey> Abrackadabra: They'll need to be able to read and write *some* things or they won't be able to use the machine...
[20:52] <Pikkachu> Abrackadabra: for what dumb reason?
[20:53] <Pikkachu> Abrackadabra: are you talking about guest?
[20:53] <Dioxin> tlhonmey: lets say I have a Ubuntu VM on win7 how would I make the VM accept the X11 forward from PuTTY?
[20:53] <Abrackadabra> to host a CGC
[20:53] <Abrackadabra> so
[20:53] <Abrackadabra> how do i run a program as guest?
[20:53] <tlhonmey> Dioxin: you can probably find instructions for making it work in the documentation for the spellcast package, since that game makes use of it.
[20:53] <Dioxin> kk cheers
[20:54] <Abrackadabra> more correct: i need to create a user who can only read his home directory
[20:54] <x11> nabend,
[20:54] <escott> Abrackadabra, well thats impossible. they have to read the /usr/bin binaries
[20:55] <danileigh79> Abrackadabra: That would lock them out of a bootup...
[20:55] <zykotick9> escott: as well as /etc/passwd to login
[20:55] <yellabs-r2> guest session maybe
[20:55] <escott> zykotick9, do they have to be able to read that or does pam do it for them?
[20:55] <hatop> abrackadabra: you could make a jail with chroot and then copy necessary binaries.
[20:55] <hatop> thats the only real option for what you're asking
[20:55] <x11> mir fehlt der syscall.h header, in welchem packet ist der denn enthalten?
[20:56] <zykotick9> escott: i'm under the strong impression they need read access
[20:56] <Abrackadabra> well ok. in general i need to run a program in a way it cannot anyhow harm the system
[20:56] <hatop> I'd use a jail
[20:56] <x11> linux-headers-2.6.32-33-generic ist zumindest installiert
[20:56] <escott> zykotick9, it would be interesting to try and find out... but im not sure you would be able to figure out what was causing the completely broken session
[20:56] <tlhonmey> Abrackadabra: You're pretty close to that with the default setup.  If you want to be even more secure, stuff it into a chroot.
[20:56] <escott> !de | x11
[20:57] <x11> kk, sry
[20:57] <x11> join #ubuntu-de
[20:57] <Abrackadabra> thanks, i'll google about it
[20:57] <x11> ^^
[20:57] <stclair> Hey guys....
[20:57] <stclair> I hope someone can help me
[20:57] <stclair> with my very important spy business
[20:57] <hatop> that depends on the question : )
[20:57] <escott> x11, "/join #ubuntu-de"
[20:57] <stclair> ok I have no clue how to use linux
[20:58] <stclair> but its installed on my work computer
[20:58] <viktor133> danileigh79, i don't see how to use the live usb on my running sys
[20:58] <stclair> I am trying to install a simple keylogger program
[20:58] <stclair> logkeys-.0.1.0
[20:58] <danileigh79> viktor133: What do you mean?
[20:58] <Canadian1296> stclair: Let's start by telling us which version of linux is installed...
[20:58] <stclair> Ok one second
[20:58] <hatop> also....do you own the machine
[20:58] <danileigh79> viktor133: You need to boot up from the Liveusb in order to use it
[20:58] <hatop> if not then this is most likely illega, depending on your location
[20:59] <stclair> ubuntu 10.10
[20:59] <roasted> Question - can anybody think why a software raid array would come up in gparted with 1 drive ntfs and 1 drive unknown when both should be unknown?
[20:59] <hatop> illegal*
[20:59] <stclair> no I am the manager, with authority from owner
[20:59] <escott> !illegal | stclair, hatop  in many jurisdictions it doesn't matter who owns the hardware
[20:59] <Canadian1296> And stclair I'm almost positive we shouldn't talk about installing key loggers, but I'll assume its your machine and its for testing purposes...
[20:59] <viktor133> danileigh79, as i said, the sys i'm trying to install on doesn't support booting from usb, so i need to install (or run) the new ubuntu from usb when it's already running
[20:59] <hatop> escott: yeah it generally isn't legal to spy without very specific restrictions in place and contracts signed.
[21:00] <hatop> and yes, thats not an appropriate topic
[21:00] <stclair> is there some kind of sketchy back alley ubuntu help chat room that i can go to?
[21:00] <escott> stclair, it doesn't matter if you are doing this for your boss on company property. its unethical and potentially illegal when someone has an expectation of privacy or secure communications to violate it
[21:00] <danileigh79> viktor133: are you trying to make Ubuntu  the only os?
[21:00] <escott> !backtrack | stclair
[21:00] <Canadian1296> Okay guys, where I live its legal as long as I own the machine. I want to install a key logger on my machine so I can have a log of everything I've ever typed, just so I can read it later ;P
[21:00] <Canadian1296> How would I do that?
[21:01] <ztag100> I JUST FOUND THE COOLEST WALLPAPER EVER!
[21:01] <iDope> ztag share
[21:01] <stclair> Lets start again
[21:01] <danileigh79> !off-topic | ztag
[21:01] <stclair> I have amnesia
[21:01] <Canadian1296> ztag100: WHAT IS IT?
[21:01] <stclair> like the guy from memento
[21:01] <ztag100> iDope: I shall!
[21:01] <ikonia> stclair: lets not
[21:01] <ikonia> stclair: please don't ask again
[21:01] <trishxo> when im upgrading to ubuntu 10.04, when it dells me packages i can either remove or keep, what should i do?
[21:01] <stclair> I need to remember everything ive typed
[21:01] <ztag100> I have a few that I love
[21:01] <ikonia> stclair: stop now
[21:01] <ikonia> stclair: final warning
[21:01] <log> Canadian1296: sudo apt-get install logkeys
[21:01] <viktor133> danileigh79, right now, the only thing i have that works is a live cd with hardy on it, i'm trying to install a more recent version on that
[21:01] <escott> !backtrack = sketchy back alley ubuntu
[21:01] <iDope> !mint
[21:02] <trishxo> should i keep or remove packages when upgrading ubuntu?
[21:02] <escott> !purge | trishxo
[21:02] <danileigh79> viktor133: I don't remember if Hardy supports update-manager, but if it does, you can use update-manager to upgrade release to releasae until you get to which ever release you want
[21:03] <Canadian1296> log: Thank you :)
[21:03] <log> Canadian1296: You're welcome.
[21:03] <pangolin> trishxo: I always let the installer remove them
[21:03] <ztag100> http://imgur.com/RAnpS
[21:03] <Canadian1296> How do I got ubottu to tell me about a package?
[21:03] <Canadian1296> get
[21:03] <log> !info logkeys | Canadian1296
[21:04] <danileigh79> Gotta love that Ubottu <3 lol
[21:04] <Canadian1296> log: thanks again
[21:04] <dlentz> ztag100, please take the wallpaper discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:04] <log> Canadian1296: No problem.
[21:04] <viktor133> danileigh79, true, but then i first need to get WiFi working on it, which i failed to do with this release before
[21:04] <ztag100> dlentz: ok
[21:05] <trishxo> command to purge packages
[21:05] <danileigh79> viktor133: hate to say it, you may6 need to jack in directly to internet... I've had to do it before I figured out how to fix my own wifi issues
[21:05] <Canadian1296> trishxo: sudo apt-get purge packagename
[21:05] <trishxo> purge all removed packages?
[21:05] <esuave> can someone explain to me how linux routes work?
[21:05] <pangolin> trishxo: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[21:06] <escott> !purge | trishxo
[21:06] <roasted> Question - can anybody think why a software raid array would come up in gparted with 1 drive ntfs and 1 drive unknown when both should be unknown?
[21:06] <tlhonmey> esuave: They work the same way as IP routing anywhere...  try man route for how to configure them.
[21:07] <ikonia> roasted: has the ntfs drive ever had ntfs on it ?
[21:07] <roasted> ikonia: never.
[21:07] <danileigh79> viktor133: Also, I'm not all that knowledgablbe with releases older than 8.04, so I'm sorry if I don't give a perfect answer
[21:07] <delinquentme> when I cd into a particular dir I get this: cd rails_projects/carls-sinatra-jruby-heroku\ /
[21:07] <esuave> tlhonmey: ok thanks
[21:07] <ikonia> roasted: has the raid array been built yet ?
[21:07] <delinquentme> whats with the backslash? I've checked the file dir name and there definitely is no \
[21:07] <roasted> ikonia: I was in gparted resizing an ntfs partition, but its on a separate drive. Afterwards gparted yielded the 1 TB drive as being ntfs
[21:07] <zykotick9> delinquentme: i think you have a space at the end of that name
[21:07] <ikonia> roasted: is it software raid or fake raid /
[21:07] <tlhonmey> delinquentme: It's escaping the space character.
[21:08] <delinquentme> tlhonmey, zykotick9 awesome :D
[21:08] <roasted> ikonia: Here's the story... 250gb W7 + Ubuntu Root, then 2x1TB /home raid mirror via mdadm. I deleted ubuntu root, expanded W7 across the entire 250gb drive, and added a 60gb SSD for Ubuntu root. Once done I popped in GParted and saw my one raid drive came up as NTFS and the other came up as unknown. However, both were a member of the raid array and the array was fine.
[21:08] <viktor133> danileigh79, i didn't actually give specific release or even OS i think...
[21:08] <Dreamscape> hello all, I'm installing ubuntu server to a old pentium 1 MMX 200mhz wth 128MB ram, which would be the best distu (i want to use it as a backup and local web dev server) latest u-server is i686 so my cpu cant run it :(
[21:08] <roasted> ikonia: the array was built about 6 months ago and had ran fine ever since. no issues.
[21:08] <viktor133> so yeah... move the box i guess :p
[21:08] <danileigh79> viktor133: you said you're using Hardy, 8.04, right?
[21:08] <ikonia> roasted: is the raid array currently running ?
[21:09] <viktor133> danileigh79 yep
[21:09] <roasted> ikonia: I sincerely did NOT touch that drive in gparted, however I was doing work to the 250gb drive in gparted and it was on an ntfs drive. I just can't help but to wonder, by removing ubuntu root from the 250, is it possible the drive ID's got tangled up somehow and tagged the wrong drive?
[21:09] <danileigh79> viktor133: and I meant to say I'm not knowledgablle before 9.04, typo'd sorry
[21:09] <ikonia> roasted: can you assemble and start thre raid array or is it refusing to start ?
[21:09] <roasted> ikonia: I ended up breaking open the array, formatting the "NTFS" drive and re-adding it. it's been syncing up this afternoon.
[21:09] <escott> roasted, try running partprobe maybe the kernel is out of sync
[21:09] <orbisvicis> file /usr/share/hardening-includes/hardening.make
[21:09] <roasted> ikonia: it always ran. it never stopped running. even when the drive was tagged as ntfs it ran fine
[21:09] <danileigh79> viktor133: who makes your wireless adapter?
[21:10] <roasted> ikonia: at least /proc/mdstat said it was.
[21:10] <ikonia> roasted: interesting, never seen that behaviour beyond a user error (not suggesting thats what happened)
[21:10] <orbisvicis> ^^ what is the bot command to find the package owning a file ?
[21:10] <esuave> tlhonmey: can i pm you about a few questions that are probably pretty easy for you?
[21:10] <roasted> ikonia: I'd like to think it was my fault, but I knew distinctly I was working in the 250gb drive (which is the only ntfs drive there)
[21:10] <escott> orbisvicis, !find
[21:10] <orbisvicis> escott: oh thanks
[21:10] <ikonia> roasted: it's hard to debug now as you're "undone" the problem
[21:10] <orbisvicis> !file /usr/share/hardening-includes/hardening.make
[21:11] <orbisvicis> !find /usr/share/hardening-includes/hardening.make
[21:11] <roasted> ikonia: I hear ya. I began to wonder, instead of doing everything I did, I wonder if I could have gone in disk utility and just edited the partition type without formatting. I'm assuming you've noticed that feature in disk utility?
[21:11] <ikonia> there are some things we could have tested/checked to get a better picture,
[21:11] <ikonia> nothing definate, but certainly an idea
[21:12] <oliphant> !cinnamon
[21:14] <viktor133> danileigh79, brb phone
[21:15] <roasted> ikonia: when I saw that feature I thought, well, maybe since I removed Ubuntu root, the partition "stack" with the 3 drives just got mixed, so I thought maybe it traveled accidentally to the wrong drive even though the drive truly was not NTFS. After all, I tested it on my flash drive. I can format my flash drive to be EXT4 but set the partition label via disk utility to NTFS just fine.
[21:15] <Jon--> We have other setup to do, I don't think I have time to use an alternative de or distro. So, I'm left with this issue: write an autoran script for all users, or all users from group x, on a Ubuntu system. This script needs to run gnome-panel, and enable alt+f2.
[21:15] <Jon--> Oh I'm sorry
[21:15] <Jon--> Wrong message
[21:15] <Jon--> gnome2 : I want to run a script after login and de/wm have done their thing, for all users on that machine. Any idea where I can place this? I think rc.local will run for ttys and runs too early.
[21:15] <roasted> ikonia: granted, if I go in gparted, it doesn't show up as NTFS like I saw with the raid drive, but its still an odd feature I took notice of. It made me wonder if I could have just used disk utility to edit the RAID drive partition type and been back to normal without any issue.
[21:18] <Me> Hello everybody
[21:20] <fabrizio> ciao a tutti
[21:21] <viktor133> danileigh79, srr 'bout that, i think i need a new wireless adapter anyway, i failed to make WiFi work with the WiFi-card in this laptop, and the sitecom adaptop i just tried on this box with other os doesn't work with any computer
[21:21] <fabrizio> !list
[21:21] <viktor133> danileigh79 i mean i failed to use WiFi on this laptop with Hardy
[21:21] <cit310> hey guys
[21:22] <viktor133> and the adaptop i have is probably broken
[21:22] <danileigh79> viktor133: Ok, sorry about that, but if you plug in, you can still upgrade, but going from 8.04 to 11.xx is gonna take quite a while...
[21:22] <Halo> hey need help :S can anyone explain me how i can install a webcam ? :D
[21:22] <CFHowlett> Halo   ask away
[21:23] <viktor133> danileigh79, hehe, probably, even getting to meerkat would be nice, maybe even better, but i'll acquire booting problem for sure
[21:23] <tlhonmey> Halo: For most of the ones that work, you plug it in.
[21:23] <zykotick9> Halo: i'd start by installing cheese and seeing if your webcam works there first
[21:23] <danileigh79> Halo: most work right out of the box, just need a webcam program
[21:23] <Halo> hm okay thanks
[21:24] <viktor133> danileigh79 when trying to instal from a meerkat live cd i had to use the NOMODESET option, which got me further, but still not trough the set-up, so i don't know
[21:24] <danileigh79> viktor133: how old is the machine you're trying to install onto?
[21:24] <viktor133> 2006
[21:25] <danileigh79> viktor133: is it standalone ubuntu, or is there another side by side os?
[21:26] <viktor133> right now, there is no os, it got deleted when i was attempting to install :p but it's ok, it was windoze ;)
[21:26] <danileigh79> viktor133: what happenes when installing? yo usay it doesn't finish
[21:28] <viktor133> danileigh79, yes, when setting up, choosing keyboard lay-out, user name etc., it freezes at one point or another, i've been recommended to the altenative download (text based)
[21:29] <viktor133> danileigh79 but that's not possible right now and i'd like to get it finished by tomorrow, so i'm installing hardy and i think i'm gonna proceed as you suggested
[21:30] <danileigh79> viktor133: good luck :)
[21:30] <Chipzzz> danileigh79: i would use a server edition and then install a desktop after
[21:30] <viktor133> danileigh79 thnks, and thnks for the help
[21:30] <danileigh79> Chipzzz: Huh?
[21:32] <Chipzzz> never mind... the customer seems content ;-)
[21:33] <mobilenoob11> Greetings!
[21:33] <efi> Hi
[21:34] <efi> someone here?
[21:34] <mobilenoob11> me
[21:34] <mobilenoob11> Im here!
[21:34] <efi> Hi
[21:34] <tlhonmey> efi:  No, the list of users is just for show.  :P
[21:34] <mobilenoob11> Whats the topic in here?
[21:35] <efi> I have a  questions
[21:35] <Yaah> sup
[21:35] <mobilenoob11> what irc client are you peeps using?
[21:35] <efi> about ubuntu for android
[21:35] <Yaah> lol\
[21:35] <Yaah> hmm
[21:35] <danileigh79> !off-topic | mobilenoob11
[21:38] <tlhonmey> efi: Yes it's possible, no, it's not easy, yes it's device specific, so we may or may not be able to help.
[21:40] <Al_nz1> something is killing my ubuntu box - CPU1 running at mainly 100% - how do I find out what?
[21:40] <bytesaber_work> why doesn nspluginwrapper -l ever show my 32 bit version of libflashplayer.so ?
[21:41] <tlhonmey> Al_nz1: open a terminal and type top