[00:00] <c0nfuseki> @Whiskey what is the folder name you want to read?
[00:00] <Annoyed> Greetings. Anybody hear of a recent samba patch breaking things?
[00:00] <Annoyed> Can no longer write to shares from windows
[00:01] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: " eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000" or somewhat similar ??
[00:02] <Whiskey> glbot
[00:02] <Whiskey> i can read it
[00:02] <Whiskey> but i can´t write to it
[00:02] <c0nfuseki> @Whiskey Are you IN the glbot folder, or ABOVE the glbot folder?
[00:03] <Whiskey> im in it
[00:03] <Whiskey> but can be above it also :D
[00:03] <Whiskey> fyah is owner of the folder, i just need access to write to it to
[00:03] <Whiskey> "two"
[00:04] <Shai-Tan> Callee RC:
[00:04] <Shai-Tan> REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG (0x80040154)
[00:04] <Shai-Tan> thanks virtual box
[00:04] <Annoyed> Whiskey, are you by any chance talking about not being able to write to a samba share?
[00:04] <Whiskey> Annoyed: don´t know
[00:04] <Whiskey> im in some others home folder
[00:04] <Whiskey> and im connected whit eclipse and can´t save my edits to it
[00:05] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: yeah
[00:05] <Annoyed> ok, nm, I'm seeing something with samba, apparently recent patch.
[00:06] <Whiskey> i don´t get it
[00:06] <Whiskey> how hard can it be to get two users to access a folder
[00:07] <c0nfuseki> @Whiskey can you paste for us what it says when you type sudo chmod -R 755 glbot ???
[00:08] <c0nfuseki> careful though... 755 assumes some things
[00:08] <Whiskey> i have slove it logged in as root
[00:08] <c0nfuseki> read through what the current permissions are first, Whiskey
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: A[[ears then it is working (??) what now ' ip route list ' ?
[00:10] <guest-uEZMmf_> conchesumare
[00:14] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: no return
[00:15] <nrdb> it appears that the next release of ubuntu is available 16.04 ... why does "do-release-upgrade" not find anything?
[00:16] <zombifier> isn't it going out tomorrow?
[00:17] <nils_> depending on your timezone
[00:17] <nils_> it'll take a bit of time, it's not official but you could get a head start
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: Yuk ! When you "reset" the router, do you pull the power, let it set for 30 seconds and reconnect the power. does the router reset  ?
[00:19] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: yeah
[00:19] <nils_> nrdb: try with -d
[00:20] <Ben64> 16.04 isn't out until tomorrow
[00:20] <nedstark> tomorrow in what time zone
[00:21] <Ben64> tomorrow in all time zones
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: ' lsmod | grep r816 ' shows only the r8168 module ?
[00:21] <nedstark> ben64, it's tomorrow in the uk, and today in the us
[00:21] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: yep
[00:21] <Ben64> nedstark: no
[00:21] <nedstark> 12:24 AM
[00:21] <nedstark> UTC
[00:21] <Myrtti> thutsday afternoon UK time, usually. It's 0122 there now.
[00:22] <Ben64> tomorrow is still tomorrow
[00:22] <nedstark> tomorrow is Friday to Queen Elizabeth
[00:22] <Ben64> yep, and 16.04 will be out by then
[00:22] <nedstark> tomorrow is Thursday to me
[00:22] <Myrtti> good grief
[00:23] <nedstark> i have her # if you want to ask
[00:23] <Myrtti> move on.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: Dyal booting Windows, and Windows has no problem ; local loop is good.I am at a loss .. I co not know where the problem may lie . think'n dome more . Anyone else with an idea ?
[00:23] <nrdb> nils_, the -d option didn't also said "no update found"
[00:23] <nils_> nrdb: that's odd, it works for me.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: Once more verify the file /etc/network/interfaces .
[00:24] <nils_> nrdb: http://pastebin.com/1G80k3Je
[00:25] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: no different
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: Is there a firewall active ?
[00:27] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Bashing-om: nothing that's not built in
[00:28] <House> hi all. anyone have autofs working with sssd+AD?
[00:28] <nrdb> nils_, my sources.list says I am using "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut wily main restricted" etc.
[00:29] <nils_> nrdb: ubunut? I'm using a German mirror...
[00:29] <nils_> nrdb: otherwise similar
[00:29] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' what nameserver(s) is listed ?
[00:31] <Tundra-OldDsktop> only two commented lines Bashing-om
[00:32] <nrdb> nils_, ok .. I don't know what is going on here
[00:33] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: Huh ?? Now that makes no sense . I cam see whartr there would be no DNS resolution, but not to see the router .. I just do not know. lemme pass you my file.
[00:33] <Ben64> Bashing-om: Tundra-OldDsktop: resolv.conf shouldn't be used, and gets overwritten each boot
[00:35] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: would you happen to have any ideas then?
[00:35] <Ben64> i haven't followed along with what the issue is
[00:35] <Bashing-om> Ben64: Not even to see if that file is the root of the problem ?
[00:35] <Ben64> what's the problem
[00:36] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: can't connect to the internet
[00:36] <Ben64> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:36] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: no
[00:37] <Ben64> then its not a dns problem
[00:37] <Bashing-om> Ben64: No ping to router, but loopback is good . found no issures and changed the r8169 driver to r1868. still no routes .
[00:38] <Ben64> definitely not dns then. could be cable, port, driver, switch/router
[00:38] <Ben64> or ip settings
[00:38] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: ruled out cable, card, router, driver
[00:38] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: IP is set to dynamic
[00:39] <Ben64> don't see how you can rule out the driver but ok
[00:39] <Ben64> so try setting a manual ip
[00:41] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: on it
[00:43] <dna113p> I have a laptop that sometimes I use but usually run kodi on it connected to my TV through HDMI. I want a script to run on startup that detects if hdmi is plugged in and launches kodi... what would I need to do this?
[00:44] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: done, still can't ping router orr a website
[00:49] <Guest26952> When installing, I wish to add some parameters to /etc/default/grub (video issues). After editing the file, how do I boot?
[00:50] <Guest26952> or, can I pass the paramenters directly form the commandline?
[00:50] <Guest26952> dg: pc=nocrs pci=realloc
[00:51] <Bashing-om> Guest26952: ' sudo update-grub ' befire rebooting . and yes the parameters in order to "test' shoule be entered in grub's boot parameter's line from the grub boot menu .
[00:51] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: still there?
[00:52] <B0bsF1sh> I want to selctively output the command text before it executes the command, but I can't get Ubuntu to ever echo  the command text. I tried "#!/bin/bash -v" and "#!/bin/bash -x" at the top. Also "set -v" and "set -x" in the body. Nothing seems to have any effect. Does it go to a different stream? or ?
[00:52] <Shai_Tan> Bashing-om, ok, after adding the parameters, how do I boot using them?
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Shai_Tan: From where did you make the additions ?
[00:53] <Shai_Tan> Bashing-om, From shell when booting from installation media
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Tundra-OldDsktop: I am open to other's advise, as I am at a loss of what to do .
[00:53] <Ben64> Tundra-OldDsktop: yeah
[00:54] <Ben64> Tundra-OldDsktop: assuming you set the right ip address stuff, then it leaves the driver,cable,router,etc
[00:55] <Bashing-om> Shai_Tan: F6 when booting the live medium after the language screen clears . ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[00:55] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: I know that the cabel and router are good
[00:56] <Shai_Tan> Bashing-om, I never get to the language screen, I have to hit 'e' to edit the parameters, then return to prompt
[00:56] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: only thing I can think of would be the driver but Bashing-om already had me install an older one
[00:56] <Shai_Tan> I guess f10 might do it
[00:57] <daed> is it normal for the top menu bar to constantly stay above anything full screen?
[00:57] <daed> it's covering movies, vlc, netflix, youtube, everything
[00:57] <daed> and won't go away, can't find anything about it online
[00:57] <Ben64> Tundra-OldDsktop: what is the "product" line of the output of lshw -C NETWORK
[00:57] <daed> i'm in 16.04 and the problem persists
[00:58] <Ben64> daed: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 until release (tomorrow)
[00:58] <daed> Ben64: this problem existed for the last 3 years
[00:58] <daed> Ben64: i'd like to see if it was fixed in 15.10 and 15.04 also
[00:58] <Ben64> you're on 16.04, so support is there
[00:58] <daed> well
[00:58] <daed> i have 2 other 15.10 machines
[00:59] <daed> i'd like to get help with those too
[00:59] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: RTL8111/8168/8411
[00:59] <Ben64> Tundra-OldDsktop: how about the driver part, does it say r8168 or r8169
[01:00] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: it was 8169 but we changed it out for 8168
[01:00] <Ben64> no, what does it say
[01:03] <GOAT-SEX> Greeting from the GNAA Department Of Goat Sex
[01:03] <Ben64> !ops
[01:03] <GOAT-SEX> !ops Goat sex
[01:03] <GOAT-SEX> !ops trollspammeritr
[01:03] <yorwos> has any1 upgraded 14.04 to 16.04 ? any bugs ?
[01:04] <Ben64> yorwos: 16.04 isn't officially out until tomorrow, and 14.04 won't show the upgrade by default until 16.04.1
[01:04] <Kingrat> so yeah ive had a bit of a regression in network-manager-gnome i believe, im no longer able to import vpn configs at all, also pptp connections dont work at all but that is minor for me
[01:04] <Kingrat> havent been able to find anything recent in launchpad, but i have seen older bugs for the same issue
[01:05] <yorwos> i was thinking to try upgrade -d
[01:05] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Ben64: Bashing-om , I think I'm gonna call it a night on this guys
[01:05] <yorwos> or update-manager -d ?
[01:06] <Tundra-OldDsktop> Thanks for all your effort
[01:06] <yorwos> gonna check again 2morrow
[01:06] <Tundra-OldDsktop> g'night
[01:08] <thrillgore> Quick question -- how would I generate a list of packages (and versions) that a do-release-upgrade would install?
[01:08] <terratoma> on the Ubuntu 14.04.4 Desktop ISO , where are the debs ?
[01:17] <psusi> terratoma, there aren't any to speak of... the desktop iso is a live, already installed system
[01:27] <TJ-> terratoma: under /ubuntu/pool/ just like in the HTTP archives
[01:28] <terratoma> i think psusi is more correct
[01:28] <terratoma> TJ-: that's true for the ubuntu server 14.04.4 iso , not the desktop iso
[01:29] <TJ-> terratoma: yes, for the desktop too
[01:29] <terratoma> how can i generate a list of urls to download all installed packages ?
[01:29] <terratoma> TJ-: i have the ubuntu desktop 14.04 iso right here ! i dont see it
[01:29] <TJ-> terratoma: there aren't many of the optional packages in there of course, but that's where they are
[01:29] <psusi> pretty much all that is in there are the extra proprietary drivers
[01:29] <terratoma> for instance i would be intereste in all of the debs for the ui stuff, for offline installation
[01:30] <terratoma> ubuntu-desktop basically
[01:30] <psusi> terratoma, the desktop installs just fine offline... it just doesn't have everything packaged as debs
[01:30] <psusi> they are already installed, and the whole installation is copied to the hd
[01:31] <TJ-> terratoma: for what its worth, the list can be seen here. notice the /pool/ directories. Not going to get you far, though :) http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.list
[01:31] <terratoma> psusi: i am creating my own custom iso for installation, i am able to do this with the contents of the  ubuntu-server iso, i fail with the desktop iso.  not sure why.  things are slightly different!
[01:32] <psusi> terratoma, indeed... if you want to use the alternate installer and add the desktop debs, you will have to download them directly and add them to your custom iso
[01:32] <terratoma> right !
[01:33] <terratoma> so... how do i generate a list of all of my installed packages, and get the urls for downloading all of those... with the correct version i need at this point in time
[01:33] <psusi> there used to be an alternate installer iso that had the desktop debs and the server installer, but it was discontinued
[01:33] <TJ-> terratoma: the manifest file contains the packages installed in the Live, that may help you: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.4/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest
[01:34] <psusi> terratoma, dpkg --get-selections will list all of the packages you have installed, then you can use apt-get download to fetch them
[01:34] <TJ-> debfoster is better for that; it maintains the auto-install relationships
[01:35] <citizenruin> <--seen a article on reddit today that mentioned bios updating, i did not know this was a thing. should i do it or not worry?
[01:35] <daed> citizenruin: if it aint broke dont fix it
[01:35] <reisio> citizenruin: what daed said
[01:36] <reisio> very much
[01:36] <terratoma> can you tell im trying to pin everything to the day ubuntu 14.04.4 was released
[01:36] <reisio> only reason to update your bios is if something is wrong
[01:36] <citizenruin> see i have a few minor annoyances
[01:36] <reisio> citizenruin: such as?
[01:36] <daed> bios-related annoyances?
[01:36] <citizenruin> no sound on fresh install my last fresh install had graphic issues
[01:36] <daed> generally bios updates don't do a ton
[01:37] <daed> i have sound issues too, but that's due to creative having horrible linux support
[01:37] <psusi> terratoma, dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' | xargs apt-get download I think should download all packages you currently have installed
[01:37] <elky> citizenruin: skylake?
[01:37] <daed> citizenruin: i have a skylake 6700k
[01:37] <terratoma> psusi: maybe?  but will it be the same version i have installed?  i think it'll be the current version that is in the repo ! such as the linux-kernel version.  right ?
[01:37] <daed> for what its worth
[01:37] <citizenruin> okay having ubuntu and experincing some issues is normal (no disrespect i like fixing and learning)
[01:38] <reisio> don't think I've ever heard of 'graphics issues' being bios related
[01:38] <daed> citizenruin: i highly doubt bios is related to your graphics issues
[01:38] <daed> if you determine that's your last resort, go for it
[01:38] <TJ-> reisio: with uefi, if the GOP is missing or buggy, there can be. I've seen several firmware updates to add/fix GOP
[01:38] <elky> either way, ##hardware is probably going to be a better bet for information about bios upgrades
[01:39] <citizenruin> i think it was just my card and "additional drivers" but still i feel like most people that do a fresh install expereince 0% issues till they start messing it up themselves right?
[01:39] <reisio> TJ-: thankfully efi and bios aren't actually the same thing, even if they have the same job
[01:39] <daed> citizenruin: not necessarily, my gtx580 used to have kernel hangs before additional drivers
[01:39] <daed> it had bad support for years
[01:39] <citizenruin> nah if its not recomended average user thing for ubuntu (linux) im not into it
[01:39] <TJ-> 16.04 supports in-place UEFI capsule firmware updates just as on Windows, too, so we can get away from needing Windows/DOS to upgrade firmwares
[01:40] <TJ-> reisio: many manufacturers - and firmware publishers - continue to describe UEFI as BIOS
[01:40] <TAFB> can anyone help me get php working? it's looking for the .php file in completely the wrong place :( FastCGI sent in stderr: "Unable to open primary script: /etc/nginx/html/index.php (No such file or directory)"
[01:40] <citizenruin> is that what the bios issues are called "kernal hangs"?
[01:41] <citizenruin> tafb: what is permissions for /etc/?
[01:41] <TAFB> my php files are in /usr/share/nginx/html
[01:41] <TJ-> citizenruin: no; 'kernel' is the Linux kernel, the core of the operating system. It takes over after the firmware/BIOS has finished its job
[01:42] <TAFB> all folders have +x on them
[01:42] <rnetocombr> Somebody has news about bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1532226 ? It is fixed for tomorrow ? Devs need help testing ?
[01:43] <citizenruin> while still staying on topic of "ubuntu" at what point after i turn on the power button does "ubuntu" start loading?
[01:43] <citizenruin> tafb is your user allowed to access /etc/?
[01:44] <TAFB> not sure
[01:44] <TJ-> citizenruin: firmware > GRUB boot-loader > Linux kernel > GNU Ubuntu userspace
[01:44] <reisio> TJ-: makes sense to me; makes no difference to the majority of end users
[01:44] <citizenruin> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lIGRB-6TYe0J:windows.nginx.apache.kvm.www.digitaloceandatacenters.info/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mysql-php-lemp-stack-on-centos-7%3Fcomment%3D21289+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu - tafb that is a cached copy of your issue. only other i suggestion i had buddy
[01:45] <reisio> citizenruin: hrmm?
[01:45] <citizenruin> reisio?
[01:45] <nedstark> digital ocean, i seem to have heard that name repeatedly on a recent podcast, like 40 times
[01:45] <reisio> citizenruin: what's up?
[01:46] <TAFB> citizenruin: I believe my problem is with the line "fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name;"
[01:46] <citizenruin> yes that problem is addressed on that site
[01:46] <citizenruin> hold i will pastebinit for you
[01:46] <TAFB> thx
[01:48] <citizenruin> reisio: im not following you boss
[01:48] <reisio> so TAFB has the problem?
[01:48] <terratoma> TJ-: thanks, with sed and awk and apt-get download i have downloaded every deb that makes up ubuntu desktop 14.04.4
[01:49] <TAFB> i always have problems :( out of the 20 times I've tried to set up nginx and php I've succeded zero times :(
[01:49] <reisio> pretty easy last I checked
[01:49] <reisio> nginx, php-fpm, nginx wiki's config
[01:49] <reisio> can't recommend enough to not use php, though :D
[01:49] <TAFB> reisio: user problems, permission problems, never goes smooth.
[01:49] <CKboss> Hi .When ubuntu 16.04 update ?
[01:50] <TAFB> i.e. php wants user www-data, nginx installs as "nginx"
[01:51] <reisio> smoothly :p
[01:51] <reisio> TAFB: well, Ubuntu is a strange choice for a server anyway
[01:51] <reisio> having no stable branch
[01:51] <reisio> try Debian
[01:51] <terratoma> TJ-: lol the manifest page says coreutils8.21-1ubuntu5.3 , you cant download that from the repos anymore, only the more current version coreutils8.21-1ubuntu5.4
[01:51] <TJ-> TAFB: you could use ACLs for that; e.g. see "man setfacl"
[01:51] <terratoma> maybe i should give up
[01:52] <JiangOil> when will the 16.04 update ?
[01:52] <TJ-> terratoma: fetch it from launchpad library maybe?
[01:52] <somsip> Do we have a factoid that points out there is no set time for the release?
[01:52] <TAFB> i thought the time was 2pm EST?!
[01:52] <reisio> TAFB: twss
[01:52] <TJ-> terratoma: as an example start here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+publishinghistory
[01:53] <terratoma> cool
[01:53] <somsip> !party
[01:53] <somsip> that'll do
[01:53] <terratoma> pretend im installing ubuntu in a space station with no accessible repo ! ( china )
[01:53] <TJ-> terratoma: which if you follow the links takes you to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5.3/+build/8386550
[01:54] <somsip> !isitout > somsip
[01:54] <TJ-> terratoma: you can use the launchpad API to automate getting the paths for those, to avoid screen-scraping or manual work
[01:55] <citizenruin> tafb: http://pastebin.com/Y2CaqNeZ
[01:55] <citizenruin> wait whats the party for i thought we already have 16.04
[01:56] <somsip> !isitout | citizenruin
[01:56] <JiangOil> still No new release found
[02:00] <TAFB> citizenruin: using that default.conf it works perfectly! no clue why :)
[02:03] <andy__> my monitor setting is 1400x1050 but chrome browser does not open to the max
[02:04] <andy__> it only covers 2/3 of the laptop monitor
[02:04] <andy__> do you know why?
[02:12] <terratoma> TJ-: i haven't tried or anything, but do you think Ubuntu 15.10 desktop LTS is less annoying to use to make custom persistent Desktop installable usb sticks ?
[02:14] <TJ-> terratoma: I'd go with 1604 now, 15.10 will be out of support in 3 or so months
[02:15] <terratoma> TJ-: oops i meant 'would using ubuntu 16.04 LTS' be less annoying
[02:15] <terratoma> i cant read
[02:15] <NullMonkey> How can I setup a vhost for this server?
[02:16] <terratoma> right. 16.04
[02:16] <terratoma> ha maybe everything is awesome with 16.04 !
[02:16] <terratoma> can it hurry up and ship so i dont' have to go to china
[02:16] <nils_> well so far I'm happy, it already saved me adding the ZFS ppa ;)
[02:16] <teward> TJ-: lets wait for 16.04 to be released first before we make those recommendations :P
[02:16] <teward> i know it's "soon" but still :P
[02:17] <terratoma> can you install ubuntu Through The Great Firewall? anyone know ?
[02:17] <somsip> terratoma: cfhowlett is in China too. He's usually on around now
[02:18] <nils_> I think there is a special version for China?
[02:18] <somsip> nils_: kylin
[02:19] <terratoma> now i remember why i used to build clusters with redhat/centos
[02:19] <terratoma> i could pin stuff to the exact version i needed
[02:19] <TJ-> teward you can if you like; I'll stick with recommending 16.04 for a long term ISO image build
[02:21] <teward> TJ-: oh, I agree, but I prefer to wait for an actual ISO first ;)
[02:24] <terratoma> TJ-: how do i get the deb for this ?  do i have to build it myself ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/8.21-1ubuntu5
[02:25] <TJ-> teward: terratoma is trying to build a custom ISO with a package-pool; he started with 14.04 but is wanting to ensure up-to-date image. 15.10 would be a silly thing to go with as an alternative to 14.04. 16.04 is the obvious and only alternative
[02:26] <terratoma> i just really want to install from a custom iso that i generate, that has all of the packages from 14.04.4
[02:26] <terratoma> all packages from the day 14.04.4 was released
[02:26] <terratoma> no updating OTA later
[02:26] <braderhart> What time is 16.04 getting released?
[02:26] <braderhart> Where is the online release party?
[02:26] <TJ-> terratoma: as I said earlier, if you want to automate that then you'll need to make calls into the Launchpad API to get the URLs of the .deb package for the versions you require
[02:27] <Bashing-om> !party | braderhart
[02:27] <TJ-> terratoma: but you're better off using the latest available package versions and pinning to *them* at the point you finalise the ISO
[02:27] <filiweraa> holaaa?
[02:28] <filiweraa> hola?
[02:29] <somsip> filiweraa: do you haved a support question?
[02:40] <filiweraa> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
[02:40] <somsip> filiweraa: do you haved a support question?
[02:40] <JGB28> Hola filiweraa
[02:40] <filiweraa> Todoo Biiem?
[02:41] <Poke95> !es > filiweraa
[02:41] <Poke95> Uh, did I did it wrong?
[02:42] <somsip> Poke95: that's fine. > sends a pm. | shows it in channel
[02:42] <filiweraa> Quiiien tiene face? :3
[02:42] <Poke95> !es
[02:42] <somsip> filiweraa: it's a support channel. Please go away
[02:42] <nedstark> did he want to facetime?
[02:43] <Arcaire> What is going on here lmao
[02:44] <davido> Anyone know what needs to happen next with respect to this error message while running apt update? "AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors."  (it appears to be a warning, non-fatal)
[02:45] <filiweraa> Agregenmen al face: Soonriisitáá Bj
[02:46] <Poke95> !ops Please quiet filiweraa and redirect them to the Spanish channel
[02:46] <Poke95> ok
[02:46] <Poke95> !ops
[02:48] <Arcaire> I wouldn't qualify this as an emergency, personally.
[02:48] <squinty> nor I
[02:49] <czg> k
[02:50] <Arcaire> k
[02:50] <squinty> davido,  been seeing that error message for a few weeks now updating 16.04... doesn't seem to be a big problem, as far as I can tell.
[02:51] <davido> thanks squinty : As I mentioned, it appears to just be a non-fatal warning.
[02:51] <davido> so nothing to get too worried about.
[02:54] <squinty> davido,  :-)
[03:01] <wedgwood> Am I understanding correctly that a memory cgroup also limits page cache?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[03:17] <Shai_Tan> OK, so I got ubuntu to install using linux .. nomodeset nolapic pci=nocrs pci=realloc , Installation went through to end, but now when I boots, it hangs at 'initializing ramdisk'. I tried adding verbose and debug options, but no output, just 'initializing ramdisk'
[03:18] <Shai_Tan> "Loading initial ramdisk"
[03:21] <badung> hello
[03:21] <badung> what time release ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[03:22] <TJ-> Shai_Tan: that's GRUB boot-loader... if you don't see the kernel start-up, then it's getting stuck before kernel execution
[03:22] <reisio> badung: the 21st, presumably
[03:26] <AR10> I have USB AC wireless, as older laptop, and it is just g/n. It plugged in and worked just fine. I updated a few weeks ago, and now it wont appear. I can see it with lsusb. Anyone have any ideas?
[03:32] <sharkasdf> I'm having some Samba problems. My samba server stopped working when the power went out. I've rebooted, restarted the server. 'sudo service smbd start' => smbd start/running, process 18377. When I do 'sudo service smbd restart' I get "stop: unknown instance: => smbd start/running, process 19591". 'tail -f /var/log/syslog => www.pastebin.com/JUeTpB6M
[03:32] <sharkasdf> I did a purge uninstall and reinstalled, still fails
[03:33] <sharkasdf> After installation I typed 'testparm' and got 'Ignoring Unknown parameter 'netbios'
[03:33] <sharkasdf> WARNING: ignoring invalid value 'share
[03:33] <sharkasdf> 'share' for parameter 'security'
[03:33] <spikebike> OS?
[03:34] <sharkasdf> I can't crack the case
[03:34] <sharkasdf> ubuntu 14.04
[03:34] <spikebike> does smbd has a -D or similar flag that says run in the foreground with debugging?
[03:34] <sharkasdf> How do I see the flag? (sorry new to linux)
[03:35] <sharkasdf> 'sudo service status smbd'?
[03:35] <spikebike> smbd --help maybe
[03:35] <spikebike> smbd -?
[03:35] <sharkasdf> yes
[03:35] <sharkasdf> -D
[03:35] <spikebike> ah, try service smbd stop
[03:35] <spikebike> then as root
[03:35] <sharkasdf> -D, --daemon become a daemon
[03:35] <spikebike> smbd -D -d 10
[03:36] <spikebike> oops
[03:36] <spikebike> smbd -F -d 10
[03:36] <Gallomimia> my 14.04 install no longer decrypts the luks container at boot time. is there a way i can figure out why? any help appreciated. (it says the raid can't be assembled, but it does seem to do that and report unknown partition map.)
[03:36] <sharkasdf> 'stop: unknown job: smbd"
[03:36] <spikebike> Gallomimia: fix the raid first
[03:37] <Gallomimia> the raid works fine
[03:37] <sharkasdf> Want me to paste results of smbd -F -d 10?
[03:37] <sharkasdf> smb: 10
[03:37] <spikebike> Gallomimia: "it says the raid can't be assembled,"
[03:37] <Gallomimia> i don't know exactly what happens during boot. something wrong, thats for sure
[03:37] <Gallomimia> it says its trying to create. don't know why it would do that
[03:37] <spikebike> sharkasdf: pastebin if it's more than a line or 2
[03:37] <Gallomimia> the CREATE fails. it shouldn't be creating, only assembling
[03:38] <Gallomimia> i have it booted from LiveUSB right now. it reads all the volumes on the raid/crypt/lvm just fine
[03:38] <sharkasdf> www.pastebin.com/absK4QZw
[03:38] <sharkasdf> I don't know why when I type 'sudo service smbd stop' it does't know what it is
[03:39] <spikebike> sharkasdf: was that it?
[03:39] <sharkasdf> ya
[03:39] <sharkasdf> smbd -F -d 10
[03:39] <spikebike> try smbd -F -d
[03:39] <spikebike> I'm expecting samba startign messages
[03:39] <sharkasdf> invalid option -d missing argument
[03:39] <spikebike> oh wait
[03:39] <spikebike> you have to do that as root
[03:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: sounds like you may have a failing RAID array
[03:40] <spikebike> try sudo smbd -F -d 0
[03:40] <Gallomimia> i just told you i have it mounted and decrypted in a live install
[03:40] <TJ-> Gallomimia: that, or else the metadata or mdadm config has changed
[03:40] <sharkasdf> returns nothing
[03:41] <Gallomimia> i've tested the drives. i can assemble the raid manually and decrypt it
[03:41] <Gallomimia> i do think the mdadm config is mucked up
[03:41] <spikebike> Gallomimia: without error?
[03:41] <Gallomimia> but i don't know how to un-muck it
[03:41] <TJ-> Gallomimia: what does /proc/mdstat show?
[03:41] <Gallomimia> yes. it runs fine
[03:41] <Gallomimia> sec
[03:41] <spikebike> might need to update-initramfs -u -k all after assembling the raid
[03:41] <Gallomimia> [UUU[
[03:41] <spikebike> fstab needs the UUID
[03:42] <spikebike> and mdadm.conf needs some info as well
[03:42] <Gallomimia> right. okay those are bunk i'm sure
[03:42] <Gallomimia> my attempts at update-initramfs have been pretty dismal.
[03:42] <Gallomimia> is there any tools for reading whats in the initramfs?
[03:42] <spikebike> sharkasdf: sorry, never ran samba, but that's pretty weird
[03:42] <spikebike> Gallomimia: what does it say when up update?
[03:42] <sharkasdf> Thanks for trying to help. I'll try reading the docs
[03:43] <JohnDunnF> Hey it appears I made it! My first time in IRC and I am 45 lol
[03:43] <Gallomimia> usually it gives me a bunch of problems with non-existing directories inside /tmp which i create and run again
[03:43] <reisio> JohnDunnF: gj
[03:43] <Gallomimia> it gives a few warnings but no errors
[03:43] <JohnDunnF> Thanks Risio
[03:43] <Gallomimia> lol that's great JohnDunnF
[03:43] <JohnDunnF> so I did it right. I made it here. And I am an Xubuntu user
[03:43] <spikebike> JohnDunnF: welcome, greetings.
[03:43] <Gallomimia> your first ubuntu install too?
[03:44] <JohnDunnF> No .. I first learned of and got a 9.x CD :)
[03:44] <JohnDunnF> been using ubuntu kubuntu lubuntu xubuntu is my fav now
[03:44] <Gallomimia> right on. well here's where we all congregate and ask questions to fix things
[03:44] <Gallomimia> but there's thousands of channels on this network alone
[03:44] <spikebike> sharkasdf: oh it's still logging to syslog I bet
[03:45] <JohnDunnF> That's awesome.. I remember hearing about IRC in the 90's but not being 'daring' enough to use it lol now I see how easy it is
[03:45] <reisio> JohnDunnF: r-e-i-TAB
[03:45] <spikebike> sharkasdf: run you run sudo smd -F -d 0 does anything interesting show up in syslog
[03:45] <sharkasdf> how do i view syslog?
[03:45] <spikebike> or try sudo smbd -F -d -0 -l readme
[03:45] <spikebike> then it should make readme.debug/in/out files
[03:46] <spikebike> sharkasdf: I'd look at dmesg | tail -50 and tail -50 /var/log/syslog
[03:46] <JohnDunnF> r-e-i-TAB not sure what that means sorry
[03:46] <reisio> JohnDunnF: r-e-i-[TAB key]
[03:46] <JohnDunnF> reisio,
[03:46] <JohnDunnF> ah I see it made your name
[03:46] <TJ-> Gallomimia: what device number has the array got? has it changed from /dev/md0 to /dev/md127 for example?
[03:47] <Gallomimia> TJ-: yes it has changed
[03:47] <Gallomimia> can i define that?
[03:47] <sharkasdf> spikebike, my smbd main process (xxxxxx) terminated with status 1, then it respawns, then it terminates/respawns 50+ times
[03:47] <reisio> JohnDunnF: /set completion_suffix :
[03:47] <sharkasdf> then smbd respawning too fast, stopped
[03:47] <JohnDunnF> is it rude for me to chat here while others are talking important stuff I see
[03:47] <filiweraa> hola
[03:48] <Gallomimia> JohnDunnF: yes actually. we have a #ubuntu-offtopic channel for such chat
[03:48] <JohnDunnF> test
[03:48] <Gallomimia> there's also many other "Just chat" channels
[03:48] <JohnDunnF> ok thanks Gallo
[03:48] <ngalim> hello
[03:48] <JohnDunnF> Gallomimia
[03:48] <spikebike> sharkasdf: with -d 10 it shouldn't and -F it shouldn't respawn, and it it doesn't launch it should say why
[03:48] <Gallomimia> welcome :)
[03:48] <TJ-> Gallomimia: that's more than likely the issue, I've seen that before. You've probably got an mdadm.conf in the initrd.img (copied from /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf) with a different - or missing - entry so te device is expected on, say, /dev/md0 but it's coming up on a temporary node at /dev/md127
[03:49] <ngalim> i've just open http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ to check 16.04
[03:49] <ngalim> is it already released?
[03:49] <Ben64> no
[03:49] <Gallomimia> TJ-: much of this problem started (i think) because i tried tweaking that and crypttab. then an update came thru and goobered me
[03:49] <Bashing-om> JohnDunnF: ubuntu general chat : type /join #ubuntu-offtopic .
[03:50] <Gallomimia> JohnDunnF: or you might be able to just click on the channel name here in chat. depends on your client
[03:50] <sharkasdf> =\
[03:50] <sharkasdf> idk
[03:50] <TJ-> Gallomimia: which metadata version is used by the mdadm array?
[03:51] <TJ-> Gallomimia: depending on which one, you can set the preferred node number in it
[03:51] <Gallomimia> uhhh
[03:51] <Gallomimia> 1.2 i think
[03:51] <Gallomimia> let me see if i can remember how to look that up
[03:52] <Gallomimia> yes. 1.2 it is
[03:52] <Gallomimia> (is that good?)
[03:53] <TJ-> Gallomimia: well, that's good. You can check the metadata details with mdadm --detail ... to check
[03:53] <Gallomimia> yes i found that in --help
[03:53] <spikebike> Gallomimia: if you have it mounted from live I'd try:
[03:53] <spikebike> chroot /mnt/target or whatever it's mounted as
[03:53] <spikebike> the update-initramfs -u -k all
[03:53] <spikebike> if that has warnings FIX THEM
[03:53] <Gallomimia> i should also mention spikebike that the entire system lives on the raid, save the /boot and efi partitions
[03:53] <spikebike> especially anything about /etc/fstab and /etc/mdadm.conf
[03:53] <Gallomimia> ok.
[03:54] <Gallomimia> i think i need to put something back into crypttab. uuid
[03:54] <TJ-> Gallomimia: add "-v" to that... in fact do "update-initramfs -uvk all |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" because there'll be a LOT of messages
[03:54] <spikebike> ya, even better
[03:54] <Gallomimia> ok
[03:54] <TJ-> Gallomimia: use "blkid" to check the UUIDs
[03:54] <Gallomimia> holy moly
[03:54]  * Gallomimia needs moar terminals
[03:56] <Shai-Tan> So, I get ubuntu to install, but it hangs at "Loading initial ramdisk", how do I get past this?
[03:57] <Gallomimia> ok. /dev/md0 uuid=blah type=crypto_LUKS that's what i want right?
[04:00] <TJ-> Gallomimia: make sure you're using UUID= in crypttab, not a device name, then it'll work no matter what
[04:00] <Gallomimia> yeah now that i know how to find uuid's i'll do that ;)
[04:00] <Gallomimia> tyvm
[04:00] <TJ-> Gallomimia: same goes for the /etc/fstab, and the entries in /boot/grub.cfg generated by update-grub
[04:01] <Gallomimia> fstab only mounts one thing that has a physical address. the rest are LV's
[04:01] <TJ-> Gallomimia: pro-tip: echo "UUID=$(blkid -s UUID -o value /dev/sdXY) LUKS_ROOT none discard" will generate a perfect line for you
[04:02] <Gallomimia> nice
[04:02] <TJ-> Gallomimia: adjust to scenario, but saves a lot of manual copying of UUIDs
[04:02] <Gallomimia> yeah i was about to winch about my middle mouse not working for such
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all and happy xenial release day
[04:04] <AR10> I have USB AC adapter. Since last kernel update, it no longer appears. It doesn't show up with sudo lshw -C network, but I can see the adapter with lsusb.
[04:04] <AR10> Additional drivers sees it, but says another driver is in use
[04:04] <reisio> lotuspsychje: you east-side-of-the-world-er
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> reisio: 6.04h :p
[04:05] <AR10> it was using rtl8812au-dkms
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> AR10: wich ubuntu version is this
[04:07] <AR10> 15.10
[04:07] <AR10> it plug and played for months, till last kernel update
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> AR10: try loading a previous kernel?
[04:08] <AR10> how do I go back?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> AR10: enter grub=load previois ubuntu version
[04:08] <MarkusDB1> Hi, I'm looking for an android tablet that is really easy to install ubuntu on. A cheap one. (desktop linux is fine, I need no thouch) I know that there is ready made ubuntu tablets from canonical currently, but I want it cheaper =)
[04:09] <AR10> where do I put that?
[04:09] <sufy> hello when is 16.04 being released?
[04:09] <AR10> on boot?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> AR10: you know howto enter hrub
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> sufy: today
[04:09] <AR10> yes. ok, ill try. thanks
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !party | sufy
[04:10] <Gallomimia> lol
[04:10] <Gallomimia> party :)
[04:10] <sufy> lotuspsychje: thanks
[04:10] <gimpyspaceman> Anyone here familiar with Xubuntu?
[04:10] <Gallomimia> i always fail miserably when i'm trying to use bash-fu to mount the 5 three letter special dirs before i chroot :(
[04:10] <reisio> gimpyspaceman: ...
[04:11] <gimpyspaceman> @reisio Your response helps immensely. Much information.
[04:11] <nicomachus> same for you question, though.
[04:11] <nicomachus> s/you/your/
[04:12] <gimpyspaceman> It was a question leading to another.
[04:13] <StyxAlso> Hello! Does anyone know when the new Ubuntu 16.04 LTS release will be available?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> gimpyspaceman: wich is?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> StyxAlso: today!
[04:13] <Gallomimia> oh my it's going to be one of those days
[04:13] <Shai_Tan> so, boot hangs at "usb 1-4: new high-speed usb device number 2"
[04:13] <TJ-> Gallomimia: you mean "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done" ?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !party > StyxAlso
[04:14] <gimpyspaceman> I have a screen tearing problem. Nothing astronomical, but it's problematic.
[04:14] <Gallomimia> yes i do TJ- but apparently there's half a dozen things i don't know to mount also
[04:14] <TJ-> Gallomimia: that is all you need. then enter the chroot, and do "mount -a" so it reads an automounts from fstab
[04:15] <reisio> ...
[04:17] <AR10> OK, so my NIC; I removed the driver in Additional Drivers, and added it back, and rebooted, and now it is there.
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !yay | AR10
[04:18] <AR10> lol, I was rebooting to get to grub, and missed it. so it does work. I just have to remove, re-add  and reboot, lol
[04:18] <Gallomimia> TJ-: well. i got a warning about crypttab being invalid
[04:18] <AR10> at least its a work around
[04:20] <Gallomimia> this thing is really unhappy about the differing kernel versions on my system versus this liveUSB
[04:20] <Gallomimia> gotta fix that :/
[04:22] <Gallomimia> TJ-: shouldn't the crypttab be [source dest keyfile(none) discard] ?
[04:23] <Gallomimia> oh i forgot the UUID=
[04:23] <TJ-> Gallomimia: "DMname UUID=xxxx keyfile options"
[04:26] <Gallomimia> got it
[04:27] <Gallomimia> using update-initramfs with -k all is bad. i specified the kernel that's installed on the hard drive and it worked with no warnings
[04:27] <Gallomimia> gonna try to boot it
[04:27] <Gallomimia> which for some reason is 3.13.0-85
[04:30] <Gallomimia> no dice so far. don't i need to update grub?
[04:32] <nils_> so what's up with the new naming of network devices?
[04:32] <nils_> I now have eno1, eno2, rename1 and rename2 ;)
[04:37] <spikebike> nils_: ya, very annoying, it can be turned off
[04:38] <TJ-> nils_: looks like you hit a udev race condition, if you have rename* still
[04:38] <Shai-Tan> idle=nomwait
[04:39] <TJ-> nils_: does the system have some persistent-net-names udev rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?
[04:39] <nils_> TJ-: nope
[04:40] <Dougie187> Is snappy  going to be available in ubuntu desktop 16.04, or is it only in ubuntu core?
[04:41] <TJ-> nils_: have you defined some virtual bridges/interfaces, e.g. for VMs, where the MAC address of the bridge is the same as the underlying interface, or virtual interface
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !info snacraft xenial | Dougie187
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !info snapcraft xenial
[04:41] <nils_> TJ-: this is a fresh install, no bridges, vlans, bonds of any kind
[04:41] <Dougie187> Interesting, thanks
[04:42] <TJ-> nils_: 2 wired ethernet interfaces? it is unusual for that to cause a rename issue
[04:42] <TJ-> nils_: check the MAC addresses in case there's dupes. "ip link show"
[04:42] <nils_> TJ-: 4 interfaces all in all
[04:42] <TJ-> nils_: the problem usually occurs when udev has already got a device with the same MAC
[04:43] <TJ-> nils_: ah, yes, of course... 2 + 2 = 4 :)
[04:44] <armyriad> What are the downsides of using a version of Ubuntu that is out of the support period?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !usn | armyriad see the risks
[04:46] <nils_> TJ-: two use the igb driver, two use ixgbe, I think that's part of the problem
[04:46] <Gallomimia> TJ-: think i'll take a break from that and play a game. then hit the hay. thanks anyway
[04:55] <b-yeezi> waiting for the 16.04 torrent to be available...
[04:55] <somsip> !isitout | b-yeezi
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !party > b-yeezi you can wait here also
[04:57] <nils_> TJ-: I think the udev rules aren't used anymore with systemd
[04:58] <TJ-> nils_: no; i orginally wondered if you were doing an upgrade though. that has caught out a few people
[04:59] <nils_> TJ-: may be the installer does some magic there
[04:59] <nils_> TJ-: I haven't used it in ages, I always install via a manual routine involving deboostrap etc.
[05:02] <nils_> but now I can name them top1, top2, bottom1, bottom2 or something that's kinda more useful
[05:07] <joob> Hi folks.. just wondering if this is legit? https://licensing.psu.ac.th/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus/
[05:07] <Ben64> joob: probably not
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> joob: recommended to use official leads, lets not forget what happened to mint..
[05:09] <joob> agree. I wouldn't run this unless in a vm anyway
[05:09] <somsip> joob: unlikely. Loads of pirate stuff on there...
[05:09] <joob> no rush, just thought i'd pop in here and ask.. thanks
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> !torrents > joob check also this when final is out
[05:10] <ngalim> hi guys .. in kylin version http://www.ubuntukylin.com/ukd/home/index.php there is 16.04 beta 2
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !torrents
[05:10] <somsip> ngalim: 16.04 has been at beta 2 for a while, and kylin is built off it so that makes sense
[05:11] <reza_sam96> hi...in which program can i write python?
[05:12] <somsip> !editors | reza_sam96
[05:12] <davido> should add geany to that list.
[05:12] <davido> !code
[05:12] <davido> ah, there it is.
 no i wanna a program looklike codeblock
[05:13] <somsip> reza_sam96: I don't know codeblock. Look into soe of the above...20-odd suggestions and find something that's like it
[05:13] <reza_sam96> i wanna aavido  program looklike codeblock
[05:13] <ngalim> somsip: ok
[05:14] <davido> but Python isn't codeblocks. It isn't scratch. It's Python, a text source code based language, not a graphical drag-and-drop language.
[05:14] <davido> Anyway, #python.
[05:14] <joob> but he wants codeblocks :(
 . <joob> i know....listen....for example we write our /c++ code in turbo c++ program ok?.....i wanna a program that can read our python scripts
[05:16] <davido> You mean an IDE for Python?
 yeah
[05:16] <nils_> PyCharm comes to mind
[05:16] <nils_> not FOSS though
[05:16] <prago_1> hi. when shrinking the size of the unity panel all icons appear not sharp anymore. how to fix that?
[05:17] <reza_sam96> <nils is it simple to install here?
[05:17] <davido> https://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments
 tnx
[05:17] <somsip> reza_sam96: pycharm is not supported here. Check their website - it's easy to instal
[05:17] <reza_sam96> somsip, so tnx :)
[05:17] <davido> reza_sam96: Thank google, That was the first result that came up when I typed "Python IDE"
[05:17] <prago_1> sorry I mean launcher, not panel
[05:18] <davido> prago_1 All icons have a native size. Anything that is not the native size is sub-optimal in some way.
[05:18] <filiweraa> hola?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !es | filiweraa
[05:20] <prago_1> yes.. this is how it seems.. but a pitty..
[05:24] <filiweraa> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:24] <davido> !es | filiweraa
[05:28] <Wulf> !party
[05:29] <SuperLag> nils_: there is a community edition of Pycharm
[05:30] <nils_> SuperLag: yeah I know and I've used it, however that's still not FOSS, it just doesn't cost anything ;)
[05:33] <sufy> launch party channel is called?
[05:33] <Shai-Tan> fknay... got it
[05:34] <spikebike> #ubuntu-release-party
[05:35] <[Saint]> Anyone have any idea why my wireless interface keeps getting renamed to 'wlx<insert_lower_case_MAC_here>'?
[05:35] <bartvk> I've just installed 16.04 and my network has a weird name, enp3s0
[05:35] <Wulf> [Saint]: yes, because someone thinks that "wlan*" is a stupid name
[05:36] <[Saint]> *Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS, wireless connection added with nmcli, by the way.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> bartvk: join #ubuntu+1 please
[05:36] <bartvk> It's fine with me but I'm not able to give it a static IP via /etc/network/interfaces
[05:36] <bartvk> Should I do it any other way?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> bartvk: join #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 support
[05:37] <Wulf> [Saint]: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> [Saint]: same for you #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <[Saint]> Wulf: I won the war against enp1sp2, and renamed that to its rightful eth0
[05:37] <SuperLag> Wulf: it's lame
[05:38] <[Saint]> but the wireless connection wins the fight every time I bring the connection down and back up again
[05:38] <bartvk> lotuspsychje, OK thanks
[05:43] <[Saint]> Oh, nope. Gotdernnit!
[05:43] <[Saint]> I didn't win the fight at all, eth0 gets renamed back to enp1s2 when the interface is cycled as well. :-S
[05:44] <[Saint]> I guess I just learn to live with it and modify my wrapper scripts for things that previously assumed a layout like eth* and wlan* or br*
[05:45] <[Saint]> Thanks Wulf, I wasn't aware of this faffery.
[05:51] <NinjaVanish> #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <SebUbuntuTablet> test
[06:03] <SebUbuntuTablet> sebsebseb test
[06:10] <rabbitnightmare> hello I am trying to install Ubuntu or any Linux on a Acer Cloudbook 14, Ubuntu latest gives me a black screen with UEFI enabled and secure boot disabled or enabled, errors when picking the efi key, when booting in legacy mode, I get a noapic error but I cant turn off apic
[06:11] <rabbitnightmare> I have no idea what the heck to do
[06:11] <kathirvel> Can any one tell me Ubuntu 16.04 LTS release time in Indian Time?
[06:11] <rabbitnightmare> I have a computer science degree and for some reason I cant get this piece of shit to boot Linux
[06:11] <Wulf> kathirvel: what's indian time?
[06:11] <rabbitnightmare> it was given to me as a gift, it has windows 10 on it
[06:12] <rabbitnightmare> there is a windows 10 password, they want it formatted
[06:12] <rabbitnightmare> they dont want me having their pictures or some shit
[06:12] <rabbitnightmare> but I cant get this to boot from a USB stick
[06:12] <Wulf> kathirvel: most likely when it's dark outside
[06:12] <rabbitnightmare> please for the love of all thats holy help
[06:12] <kathirvel> Wulf: Sorry. Indian Time means GMT +5.30
[06:12] <Wulf> .30? jeez...
[06:13] <Wulf> kathirvel: ask your moron politicians to switch to an integral offset!
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> I have never ran into a computer that cant boot Linux until now
[06:13] <spikebike> rabbitnightmare: first test said usb stick elsewhere to see if it's teh stick, the machine, or how you made the install media
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> it works
[06:13] <trijntje> rabbitnightmare: please mind your language
[06:13] <spikebike> rabbitnightmare: some need bios tweaks to boot from usb
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> ive used said stick on many a machine
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> I followed all that stuff
[06:13] <Guido1> I have a problem with a samba printer which is located on an XP home. i have to enter some kind of username and paswoord. The user name and pasword of the admin do not work.
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> I turned off secure boot
[06:13] <Guido1> I have a problem with a samba printer which is located on an XP home. i have to enter some kind of username and paswoord. The user name and pasword of the admin do not work.
[06:13] <Wulf> kathirvel: 2016-04-22 02:30 +0530 then
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> I tried it with secure boot on with shim.efi
[06:13] <spikebike> rabbitnightmare: is there a legacy mode so you can avoid efi?
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> nothing
[06:13] <rabbitnightmare> black screen
[06:14] <rabbitnightmare> legacy mode freezes and beeps
[06:14] <rabbitnightmare> with Ubuntu
[06:14] <rabbitnightmare> gives me a kernel panic "noapic"
[06:14] <kathirvel> Wulf: Thanks.
[06:14] <rabbitnightmare> I cant figure out where the boot options are
[06:15] <bogdanr_> hello, does anyone know if 16.04 will have MIR? I find conflicting info on google :)
[06:15] <rabbitnightmare> in "advanced" I only see "back<"
[06:15] <rabbitnightmare> bogdanr_: download the iso and find out
[06:15] <bogdanr_> :)
[06:15] <rabbitnightmare> it takes all of 10 minutes
[06:15] <rabbitnightmare> its free
[06:15] <rabbitnightmare> just do it
[06:15] <bogdanr_> i know it does
[06:16] <bogdanr_> but 10 minutes >1 minute=of your answer
[06:16] <rabbitnightmare> please halp
[06:16] <kathirvel> Wulf: When I can get the download link of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[06:16] <bogdanr_> ftp://ftp.lug.ro/ubuntu-releases/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[06:17] <rabbitnightmare> bogdanr_: I can attest that there is mir in the login options
[06:17] <rabbitnightmare> but it is insanely buggy with some xorg software
[06:17] <bogdanr_> thank you
[06:17] <bogdanr_> i usually use the gnome-flashback package
[06:17] <bogdanr_> so all the gnome tools should work just fine
[06:17] <Bucky_Ball> Try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/
[06:18] <rabbitnightmare> gnome3shell straight up crashes and bumps you to terminal when trying to use mir for instance
[06:18] <skyroz666saile> hey has anyone here used Cinnamon desktop recently?
[06:18] <rabbitnightmare> so dont use mir it sucks
[06:18] <Wulf> kathirvel: it's not available in India yet, actually you guys will need to wait 2 more Weeks
[06:18] <bogdanr_> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback
[06:18] <bogdanr_> i should be fine with mir :)
[06:19] <kathirvel> Wulf: OK. But today is the release date of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.  Where are you stuck?
[06:21] <skyroz666saile> Okay so I installed it fine and everything, but I had a few issues installing themes. I downloaded this one for example http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Classic95?content=157298
[06:21] <rabbitnightmare> ouroumov: at USB boot
[06:21] <rabbitnightmare> before installation
[06:22] <ouroumov> rabbitnightmare, you've accessed the BIOS and changed the boot order already?
[06:22] <rabbitnightmare> uefi enabled = black screen and freeze, legacy mode = kernel panic
[06:22] <skyroz666saile> I tried putting the files in /.themes (in the Home directory) and also Usr/Share/Themes under sudo privelages
[06:22] <bogdanr_> @rabbitnightmare: have you tried: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Cloudbook
[06:22] <bogdanr_> ?
[06:22] <rabbitnightmare> ive tried the boot and grub efi files both error our
[06:22] <rabbitnightmare> out
[06:22] <skyroz666saile> and there was no way to get the full theme, it only worked on windows, not the taskbar or anything
[06:23] <bogdanr_> http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/340-ubuntu-install-acer-aspire-cloudbook-431
[06:23] <bogdanr_> ?
[06:23] <ouroumov> rabbitnightmare, how did you 'burn' the .iso image to your USB drive? And before doing that, have you verified the hash of the file?
[06:23] <bogdanr_> maybe this will help
[06:23] <trijntje> rabbitnightmare: have you tried the daily build of 16.04? Thats the first thing I"d try
[06:23] <rabbitnightmare> bogdanr_: I cant get it to boot
[06:23] <rabbitnightmare> I have tried
[06:23] <halivingston> I just tried the potential 16.04 LTS release ISO and when boot under HyperVisor it just hangs. I wanted to let the release team know.
[06:23] <rabbitnightmare> I didnt think about arch
[06:23] <bogdanr_> i found the info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2305782
[06:23] <rabbitnightmare> the laptop is going to my wife so I wanted to put Ubuntu on it
[06:24] <Arcaire> halivingston: I installed the last beta under kvm and this didn't happen to me
[06:24] <ouroumov> rabbitnightmare, how did you 'burn' the .iso image to your USB drive? And before doing that, have you verified the hash of the file?
[06:24] <Arcaire> halivingston: so i'm going to suggest it's a layer 8 issue
[06:24] <bogdanr_> I see that the guy did some uefi changes
[06:24] <bogdanr_> for the acer
[06:24] <rabbitnightmare> ouroumov: I have used this drive to install 15.10 many many times
[06:24] <halivingston> Arcaire: I tried Beta2 and it worked fine. I tried the final release ISO and it doesn't workk
[06:24] <rabbitnightmare> it boots on my personal desktop
[06:24] <Arcaire> halivingston: there's no release iso yet
[06:24] <Arcaire> it's in the topic of the channel
[06:24] <Arcaire> it's not out yet
[06:24] <skyroz666saile> so you would recommend going to the linuxmint irc then?
[06:25] <halivingston> So this is not it? It seemed to me that the daily build of 20th night is it ... http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:25] <trijntje> rabbitnightmare: hold shift while booting on your personal desktop, and check the 'cd' for defects
[06:25] <rabbitnightmare> I did no defects
[06:25] <rabbitnightmare> lol
[06:25] <halivingston> but still, the fact it won't run under HyperV is concerning
[06:25] <Jordan_U> halivingston: The release team isn't in this channel. I'm sure that they've tested with the major hypervisors (you didn't specify what hypervisor you're actually using).
[06:25] <Arcaire> halivingston: the final build of 16.04 is not out
[06:25] <halivingston> Microsoft HyperV
[06:26] <spikebike> halivingston: read http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/
[06:26] <Arcaire> halivingston: the latest official build that is released does work with all hypervisors i've tested
[06:26] <ouroumov> rabbitnightmare, the only thing that's saying is that your drive is well-traveled. Flash drive deteriorate with usage. Also I was asking how as in, what method did you use? And did you check the hash of the file?
[06:26] <rabbitnightmare> 16.04 isnt coming out yet
[06:26] <rabbitnightmare> its not due for a week
[06:26] <Arcaire> lllll
[06:26] <halivingston> :P
[06:26] <rabbitnightmare> ouroumov: the flash drive works
[06:26] <rabbitnightmare> its pretty new
[06:26] <Guido1> I have a problem with a samba printer which is located on an XP home. i have to enter some kind of username and paswoord. The user name and pasword of the admin do not work.
[06:26] <ouroumov> rabbitnightmare, OK, still two answers left.
[06:26] <rabbitnightmare> I just tried it on the desktop, try Ubuntu without installing, BAM desktop
[06:27] <halivingston> ok so I'm trying it on a different machine with Microsoft HyperV .. and I'll let you all know, but the GUI is just hung and if I right click it keeps flashing the right click menu non stop
[06:27] <rabbitnightmare> move to the laptop, black screen and notta
[06:27] <halivingston> rabbitnightmare: good point, lemme try live also .. i just installed it
[06:28] <rabbitnightmare> halivingston: you have one of these abominations?
[06:28] <kathirvel> What is release date and time of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS? Can any one give me of IST of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS release?
[06:28] <spikebike> kathirvel: today
[06:28] <serianox> about 24 hs from now
[06:28] <halivingston> rabbitnightmare: you mean the maroon background and nothing else loading?
[06:28] <rabbitnightmare> when it's done™
[06:28] <rabbitnightmare> halivingston: for me its black
[06:29] <rabbitnightmare> ive disabled secure boot
[06:29] <serianox> guys will zfs come by default?  with all this licencing drama..
[06:29] <rabbitnightmare> ive enabled it and picked an efi file
[06:29] <rabbitnightmare> ive loaded a special efi file
[06:29] <hateball> rabbitnightmare: did you try nomodeset ?
[06:29] <trijntje> !+1 | serianox
[06:29] <kathirvel> spikebike: I am from India. So I want IST timing.
[06:29] <rabbitnightmare> hateball: how
[06:29] <trijntje> !16.04 | serianox
[06:29] <hateball> !nomodeset | rabbitnightmare
[06:29] <spikebike> kathirvel: within 24 hours of right now
[06:29] <basso> geif release n0w
[06:29] <Jordan_U> serianox: zfs support will be available by default, it will not be the default filesystem. For legal disccusion please join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss.
[06:29] <basso> i wants it
[06:30] <kathirvel> spikebike: Oh! Thanks.
[06:30] <rabbitnightmare> hateball: that requries I have it installed? how do I accomplish this via the usb drive
[06:30] <hateball> rabbitnightmare: no you can edit grub boot on live media as well
[06:30] <rabbitnightmare> thanks though this is something
[06:30] <rabbitnightmare> sweet
[06:30] <rabbitnightmare> tyvm
[06:30] <rabbitnightmare> its intel graphics
[06:31] <rabbitnightmare> ive never had an issue with intel before thank you very much
[06:31] <rabbitnightmare> yay desktop
[06:31] <rabbitnightmare> r.e.t.a.r.d.e.d
[06:31] <rabbitnightmare> thanks I can google from here
[06:31] <hateball> rabbitnightmare: to be fair I've not heard of such issues with intel either, but
[06:31] <rabbitnightmare> I couldnt figure that out
[06:32] <rabbitnightmare> im like I know this should work
[06:32] <Jordan_U> rabbitnightmare: Do not use retarded as an insult in this channel.
[06:32] <rabbitnightmare> Jordan_U: sorry I insulted you, it wasnt directed at you
[06:32] <rabbitnightmare> it was at this laptop
[06:32] <rabbitnightmare> ty hateball
[06:32] <Jordan_U> rabbitnightmare: I don't care who or what you intended to insult.  I have all interfaces set in /etc/network/interfaces as static, with only address, netmask, and gateway stanzas, and yet /etc/resolv.conf is being overwritten by resolvconf on reboot. Anyone know why this could be?
[06:38] <Pelucho> Looking forward to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS launch today! Any idea at what time it will be up?
[06:38] <bogdanr_> network-manager still uses the resolvconf stuff, even if you have static ip addresses
[06:39] <spikebike> dograt: is dhclient running?
[06:39] <izhar> Hi everyone.
[06:39] <viscera> Pelucho: the ISO looks available to me
[06:39] <izhar> I need some advice..
[06:39] <dograt> spikebike: looks like no. And with how the interfaces are set an networkmanager not running, I don't know why it might run.
[06:39] <rud0lf> !xenial
[06:39] <bogdanr_> dograt: why don't you configure everything from network-manager?
[06:40] <dograt> bogdanr_: this is a server so no need for networkmanager, all interfaces are static
[06:40] <bogdanr_> dograt: you should have said this from the beginning :)
[06:40] <bogdanr_> I think you can safely remove the resolvconf package
[06:40] <bogdanr_> if installed
[06:40] <dograt> Ah
[06:41] <bogdanr_> and disable network manager
[06:41] <dograt> Well I know from debian that networkmanager leaves any interfaces specified in /etc/network/interfaces alone
[06:41] <izhar> someone who can help me. My landscape ubuntu said there is no available licences to add server. But my company was bought 43 license for landscape ubuntu.
[06:41] <C0r3_> Accidentally I dropped my laptop and then I found that I have lost my desktop environment, but I'm able to operate it with the tty. The problem is, I had some data in a partition and I was unable to 'cd' into it. I changed the permission using 'chmod' and got the access but the data is lost. Is it possible to recover?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> Pelucho: viscera: 16.04 is not released yet. Please join #ubuntu-release-party to be among the first to know when it is released and don't try to get images before then.
[06:41] <viscera> Jordan_U: odd, there are links on reddit
[06:41] <dograt> bogdanr_: required by ubuntu-minimal. Seems like I should keep that?
[06:42] <viscera> Jordan_U: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/
[06:42] <spikebike> izhar: I'd talk to canocial about that
[06:42] <dograt> So I don't accidentally delete useful packages?
[06:42] <dg87> so what exactly is the teaming up between Microsoft and Ubuntu about? are they sharing with their data mining or something?
[06:42] <Jordan_U> viscera: reddit is not a reliable source. Please read the message at http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ .
[06:42] <izhar> spikebike:Is there any solution on that?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> dg87: #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for such discussion please.
[06:43] <bogdanr_> dograt: you can configure resolv.conf any way you want, then use chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[06:43] <bogdanr_> I thing that, beacuase of resolvconf package, the file is a symlink
[06:44] <spikebike> izhar: ya, talk to canocial
[06:44] <Guido1> I have a problem with a samba printer which is located on an XP home. i have to enter some kind of username and paswoord. The user name and pasword of the admin do not work.
[06:44] <izhar> how to talk with canonical?
[06:44] <cfhowlett> izhar, www.canonical.com
[06:44] <viscera> Jordan_U: but the URL looks official doesn't it? -- http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:45] <viscera> ohhhh 14.04 nevermind :D
[06:45] <izhar> thanks
[06:45] <bogdanr_> Guido1: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/turn-off-password-protected-sharing-xp-54770.html
[06:45]  * viscera is asleep]
[06:45] <Jordan_U> viscera: Whatever URL or anything else you might find, it's not released until it's released. Just be patient.
[06:45] <viscera> Jordan_U: aight
[06:45] <viscera> Jordan_U: can i ask you a security question
[06:46] <Jordan_U> viscera: You can ask the channel an Ubuntu related security channel, and if anyone thinks they can answer it they will.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> s/security channel/security question/
[06:46] <viscera> ok. actually i might just wait until tomorrow since i have to logoff shortly
[06:46] <dograt> bogdanr_: I think I'll just install ubuntu-minimal, dhclient, and resolvconf. Thanks.
[06:47] <dograt> *uninstall
[06:47] <Guido1> bogdanr_: It says "Windows XP Home Edition has Simple File Sharing permanently enabled"
[06:47] <SynfulAck> is there a time that they are going to release 16.04lts?
[06:48] <spikebike> SynfulAck: yes, today
[06:48] <cfhowlett> SynfulAck, when it's ready.
[06:48] <spikebike> (April 21st)
[06:48] <Pelucho> #ubuntu-release-party for the excited ones
[06:48] <wligtenberg> ah, it is the day that everybody asks when it will be released. :)
[06:48] <bogdanr_> Guido1: did you follow the steps there?
[06:49] <izhar> hi I cannot find the support. Where should I ask to canonical? when I go to Ask! it will route to ubuntu..
[06:49] <Guido1> bogdanr_: folders are shared and the steps about chosing between simple file ssharing and the other seams to be related to xp professional, not home
[06:49] <cfhowlett> izhar, go to the canonical website.  it is clearly stated.
[06:50] <zzarr> hello! how do I change from a development release to current stable?
[06:50] <izhar> i found it..
[06:50] <izhar> thank you
[06:50] <Guido1> bogdanr_: what do i have to enter in the autoriusation form which pops up on linux?
[06:51] <bogdanr_> usually, the administrative account from windows XP
[06:52] <Guido1> bogdanr_: strange. just trying to remvoe the DNS attention and to leave the work group only
[06:58] <CyborgCygnus> Man it surely has to be only hours until 16.04 is out....why no live countdown clock anywhere for dis one?
[06:58] <DiamondSword> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ is this the 16.04 stable?
[06:59] <bogdanr_> DiamondSword: no
[06:59] <Ben64> !party
[06:59] <Guido1> bogdanr_: not working
[06:59] <DiamondSword> bogdanr_, not released. ok
[07:00] <bogdanr_> Guido1: sorry to hear. don't know how I can help
[07:00] <bogdanr_> windows sucks
[07:01] <Guido1> bogdanr_: i have another xp with which it works. so i was thinking about copying the settings
[07:02] <bogdanr_> maybe it's a group policy
[07:02] <bogdanr_> i don't know
[07:02] <Guido1> bogdanr_: They are all in the same workgroup
[07:02] <Starcraftmazter|> hi
[07:02] <Starcraftmazter|> our ubuntu seems to have stopped working
[07:02] <Starcraftmazter|> 14..04
[07:03] <cfhowlett> !details | Starcraftmazter|
[07:03] <bogdanr_> Guido1: Again, windows is not my strong point :)
[07:03] <Starcraftmazter|> basically at startup theres no kernel choice screen, theres just a _ at the top left of the screen, ctrl+alt+f any f key dont do anything
[07:05] <informatycy> siemka
[07:06] <Wulf> !pl | informatycy
[07:06] <mynick> hello
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[07:07] <informatycy> poland
[07:07] <informatycy> cioto
[07:07] <rud0lf> lol
[07:07] <informatycy> no
[07:07] <informatycy> only csgo
[07:07] <rud0lf> you
[07:07] <informatycy> me
[07:07] <rud0lf> you're in bad place i guess
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[07:08] <informatycy> and u?
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[07:08] <Poke95> Don't feed the trolls.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> do not feed, do not engage.
[07:09] <Poke95> They are just the same :)
[07:10] <keepguessing> Hi, I have 15.10 ubuntu machine and it hangs everytime I am not on my vpn network.
[07:10] <keepguessing> When I say hang I mean everything becomes slow [including autocomplete. shutting down boot up. It hangs at various points.]
[07:11] <Faris> Hello! I need to install an old package from an old repo, but when I do smth like "apt-get install php5=5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16 -t lenny", it doesn't want to install the old dependencies from that repo
[07:11] <Faris> it gives smth like this:  php5 : Depends: libapache2-mod-php5 (>= 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16) but it is not going to be installed
[07:11] <keepguessing> I tried looking at syslog file but nothing in it that tells me whats the problem.
[07:11] <Ben64> Faris: not supported, terrible idea, and that looks like debian, not ubuntu
[07:11] <informatycy> ?
[07:12] <Poke95> !pl | informatcy
[07:12] <informatycy> Hi
[07:12] <keepguessing> systemd-analyze blames nslcd
[07:12] <informatycy> (sorry for bad english)
[07:13] <keepguessing> How do I debug this any suggestions?
[07:17] <iron_houzi> Can anyone tell me why `apt-cache policy foobar` doesn't return non-zero when unable to locate package foobar?
[07:18] <iron_houzi> ..or rather, how to work around this, when checking this programatically .. looking for something more elegant that a "cut and compare string" method..
[07:21] <iron_houzi> OK, I'll just grep the output then.
[07:24] <KiBi1__> ahh it's a wonderful day
[07:25] <mkmbhs> hi bodies
[07:32] <melindo> is there any way to have multiple diskless systems boot of pxe and use same tftp storage?
[07:33] <KurtKraut> melindo, I guess so. I belive there is 'metal as a service' solutions that rely on that, but not sure nor I can direct you to any docs regarding it.
[07:34] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu 16.04 is scheduled for today
[07:34] <KeithWeisshar> do you have an estimate release time in eastern daylight time zone
[07:34] <KurtKraut> KeithWeisshar, nops, nobody has it. Can happen anytime for the next 24 hours.
[07:36] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:37] <EriC^^> hi
[07:38] <crziter> hello, Does Ubuntu 15.10 have package: mingw-w64-glib2?
[07:39] <crziter> I have to cross-compile a program, it requires glib2
[07:40] <hateball> !packages
[07:40] <hateball> crziter: ^
[07:41] <soupnanodesukar> PSA: Any ubuntu devs here? I found a broken link on ubuntu.com.
[07:41] <crziter> hateball: I mean I can see it not found with `apt-get install` command, may it hidden somewhere ?
[07:42] <soupnanodesukar> Specifically, a mirror is down. The Australian link on the alternative downloads page. Can't do much about it other than wait for it to come back up.
[07:43] <hateball> crziter: I am not familiar with that particular package, do you not get all oyu need from mingw-w64 ?
[07:48] <KeithWeisshar> does ubuntu 16.04 fix bug listed on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1447038
[07:51] <[diablo]> G'morning #ubuntu ....15.04 going live today yeah?
[07:51] <hehe> is it available yet?
[07:52] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[07:52] <[diablo]> :D
[07:53] <lonix> [diablo]: im fairly certain that 15.04 arrive about 1. year ago
[07:53] <[diablo]> doing an upgrade of my 15.10 desktop to 16.04 .... but actually once the ISO's are out, I'll do a clean install... plus I want ZFS ... so cool that they're adding ZFS
[07:54] <lonix> :P
[07:54] <[diablo]> LOL, sorry lonix I'm still trashed from last night
[07:54] <lonix> dont worry about it, im just haveing som fun at your expence
[07:54] <Kartagis> I thought LTSs were not EOL for 5 years
[07:58] <mynick2> Hiya
[07:59] <geirha> Kartagis: regular releases end support after 9 months, LTS releases end support after 5 years
[07:59] <pingwindyktator> hello. I've got a list of files generated by 'find . -iname .....'. How to search throught context of these files? I usually use grep -Iinr, but I can use it here obviuolsy
[08:00] <geirha> find . -iname ... -exec grep pattern /dev/null {} +
[08:00] <EriC^^> pingwindyktator: for i in $(cat /path/to/file); do grep .. "$i"; done
[08:01] <geirha> I wouldn't recommend treating filenames as words
[08:01] <Kartagis> geirha: then the info on the !releases page is wrong
[08:01] <Kartagis> !release
[08:01] <Kartagis> geirha: ^^
[08:02] <pingwindyktator> geirha: perfect, thanks ;)
[08:02] <geirha> Kartagis: how so?
[08:03] <Kartagis> geirha: there is 14.04.4 afaik, but it doesn't exist on the page, and it says 3 years for LTSs like 14.04
[08:05] <geirha> Kartagis: Ah, yes that table is weird. And there's no explanation of what "HWE August 8, 2014" means
[08:06] <geirha> pingwindyktator: Really? You're not going to ask why I added /dev/null in there? ;p
[08:07] <pingwindyktator> I'm just about to ask ;D I dony understand  /dev/null {} +
[08:08] <geirha> if you do  grep pattern file   you get the matching lines printed. If you do  grep pattern file1 file2   you get the matching lines printed with file1: or file2: prepended
[08:08] <EriC^^> why /dev/null though
[08:08] <geirha> so it's for the edge case where find's -exec replaces {} with only one filename. The /dev/null makes sure it will have at least two filenames, so that the filename is prepended
[08:09] <geirha> *so that the "filename:" is prepended to each matching line
[08:09] <christ_> ola guys
[08:09] <EriC^^> you mean incase it actually only finds 1 single file
[08:10] <geirha> /dev/null will naturally never have any matches
[08:10] <geirha> EriC^^: yes, or it finds so many that it has to invoke grep multiple times, and the last one only gets one file
[08:10] <EriC^^> aha
[08:10] <pingwindyktator> geirha: i't makes sense indeed ;p
[08:11] <rafgas> Hello all. Currently i have ubuntu gnome, but i am curious  to see what ubuntu unity looks like un 16.04. How can i, in the safest way possible, do this?
[08:12] <LordMoore> rafgas: I think its 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[08:13] <rafgas> just a sideline : isnt apt-get depreciated? (but thanks for answer!)
[08:13] <LordMoore> rafgas: I don't think so? Where did you hear that?
[08:14] <rafgas> reddit, someone said sudo apt replaces apt-get, but i have no idea if its true or not
[08:14] <rafgas> btw, when i do that LordMoore, will my gnome shell be available to me at login?
[08:14] <halvors> Anyone knows when 16.04 will be available for download?
[08:15] <rafgas> in 2 years
[08:15] <cfhowlett> !party | halvors
[08:15] <LordMoore> rafgas: Yes, you will keep Gnome, and at the login screen you will be able to select your preferred environment
[08:15] <Kartagis> halvors: #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <rafgas> perfect! thanks LordMoore. I am still curious to see if other know if apt-get is deprecated or not
[08:16] <cfhowlett> rafgas, apt-get is not yet deprecated.
[08:16] <rafgas> thanks cfhowlett !
[08:16] <Kartagis> are there plans to do so?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> eventually.  apt has been rolled out but still has some functional gaps that are are being addressed - presumably
[08:17] <LordMoore> rafgas: I see mention as far back as 2005 about apt replacing it, but nowhere that is's replaced. Pretty sure you'd see it all over the place
[08:17] <rafgas> makes sense for such an important command yeah.
[08:17] <geirha> 2005 ... that's probably apt-get vs aptitude
[08:18] <LordMoore> geirha: That's what I thought at first too. I can't see apt-get being phased out though.
[08:19] <rafgas> hmm, i have ubuntu desktop installed, but when i logout, i dont see the option for loading unity. Is it perhaps my loggin screen that needs changing?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> rafgas, unless you have more than one Desktop Environment, no need to display the unity option
[08:19] <cfhowlett> as it is the default
[08:20] <LordMoore> rafgas: You might want the lightdm login manager (that has the option)
[08:20] <rafgas> i do, i have both gnome and unity, i use gnome but i want to see what unity looks like in 16.04 as well (when that comes)
[08:20] <LordMoore> rafgas: The command is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[08:20] <rafgas> LordMoore: thanks!
[08:21] <geirha> rafgas: You don't have an Ubuntu icon you can click next to your name in the login screen?
[08:22] <rafgas> i used gdm, perhaps that blocks unity?
[08:22] <LordMoore> geirha: That's on the lightdm login screen, not the default Ubuntu Gnome login
[08:22] <rafgas> gonna check it out, brb!
[08:22] <LordMoore> rafgas: Good luck!
[08:23] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[08:24] <geirha> Oh, heh, I haven't paid attention in class. When someone say Ubuntu Gnome, I've assumed they mean the "regular" ubuntu, but I see now it's a separate variant
[08:25] <LordMoore> geirha: Yes, and the best variant...of course
[08:25] <rafgas_> Well, everything works. happy about that! thanks guys
[08:26] <Insanity_> How long should I wait before updating to 16.04? Assuming it probably has some minor issues at first
[08:26] <loll1p0p> Insanity_: well 15.10 support ends after 6 months propably thne?
[08:26] <Insanity_> I'm on 14.04
[08:27] <LordMoore> rafgas_: Glad to hear it
[08:27] <hateball> Insanity_: 16.04.1 is out in june
[08:27] <Insanity_> Cheers :-)
[08:30] <geirha> 15.10 ends support 16.07
[08:31] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[08:31] <ap0> yes
[08:31] <bogdanr_> asa
[08:31] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[08:31] <Metallus> asa
[08:31] <Metallus> !isitout?
[08:31] <bogdanr_> hehe
[08:31] <Metallus> lol
[08:32] <bogdanr_> dap
[08:32] <geirha> !xenial
[08:32] <nanaasar> where are the vagrant uses at
[08:32] <bogdanr_> intra si pe #ubuntu-release-party
[08:32] <bogdanr_> click pe canal
[08:32] <bogdanr_> si te join-uieste automat
[08:32] <ap0> why isn't the 24th release released on the 24th?
[08:32] <panina> shush now, we want the shiny new thing today :)
[08:32] <Poke95> seems reasonable
[08:33] <geirha> ap0: what to do for the 32nd release?
[08:33] <panina> cry
[08:33] <ap0> geirha, it's still time. maybe we'll have a 32nd till then
[08:34] <Poke95> Well, just say !isitout? a lot of times until ubottu dies
[08:34] <panina> "mom, why do we have 60 days every month?" "because of canonical, dear"
[08:34] <LordMoore> My main concern is, what are they going to call the 28th release?
[08:34] <Poke95> !isitout
[08:34] <ap0> panina, hehe
[08:34] <ap0> LordMoore, they add letters to the alphabet
[08:35] <LordMoore> ap0: Sounds about right
[08:35] <LordMoore> ap0: Or worse...use Emoji
[08:35] <Metallus> !isitout?
[08:35] <Myrtti> could you not go the silly route? let's keep the silliness to -release-party, please.
[08:35] <ap0> Maybe they will stop with those kind of dump names... I hope
[08:35] <bogdanr_> if the functionality is here, I guess it's allowed
[08:35] <LordMoore> Myrtti: What sillyness?
[08:35] <bogdanr_> so:
[08:35] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[08:36] <bogdanr_> this sillyness :)
[08:36] <bogdanr_> !isitout?
[08:36] <Myrtti> bogdanr_: please.
[08:36] <bogdanr_> :)
[08:36] <bogdanr_> ok ok
[08:36] <bogdanr_> true
[08:37] <sv2241> wasn't 16.04 LTS supposed to be realeased today?
[08:37] <panina> Myrtti, I hear you and agree
[08:37] <ap0> haha
[08:37] <Myrtti> usually Thursday afternoon uk time
[08:39] <nanaasar> i have a problem with vagrant... can anyone help me
[08:39] <hateball> !help | nanaasar
[08:41] <nanaasar> my vagrant is not running my existing vagrant vm but its creating a new vagrant vm.. help!
[08:42] <wyoung> hello
[08:43] <Jim167> When will 16.04 be released?
[08:43] <wyoung> I am trying to copy a file that contains a \#240 character in it
[08:43] <wyoung> no idea what encoding that is, cp and rsync and both complaining about Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[08:44] <wyoung> I tried using --iconv option in rsync but i have no idea what the encoding is
[08:44] <Jim167> What kind of file is that?
[08:45] <alkisg> wyoung: try with LANG=C LANGUAGE= in the environment
[08:45] <alkisg> I.e. try to disable utf-8 temporarily
[08:46] <wyoung> alkisg: export LANG=C LANGUAGE=
[08:46] <alkisg> Yup, something like that
[08:46] <alkisg> And then "mv" or "cp"
[08:47] <joaquinmunozsmr> joar_: hi
[08:48] <wyoung> alkisg:  Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character
[08:48] <wyoung> alkisg: even after I tried to rename it too
[08:48] <alkisg> wyoung: env | grep ^L
[08:48] <alkisg> Run "unset" for all the LC_* variables
[08:48] <alkisg> So that you're only left with LANG=C
[08:49] <wyoung> alkisg: yup, everything is set to C, same when I type in locale too
[08:49] <nahuel> Hi people, just a little question… is there a way to get xchat on ubuntu 16.04 ? I only found xchat-gnome that is ugly…
[08:50] <imsurit> how long for new LTS ?
[08:50] <nahuel> in previous ubuntu I had "normal" xchat
[08:50] <wyoung> imsurit: some time this month
[08:50] <wyoung> nahuel: I gave up on xchat years ago, irssi for the win!
[08:50] <imsurit> wyoung: wasn't it supposed to be released today ?
[08:50] <alkisg> wyoung: when you're trying to rename it, are you using a glob? E.g.: mv part*file test
[08:50] <wyoung> imsurit: no idea
[08:50] <wyoung> alkisg: no
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> nahuel: xchat is no longer maintained, use hexchat
[08:51] <cfhowlett> imsurit, when it's done
[08:51] <alkisg> wyoung: because with LANG=C, you won't be able to match it easily
[08:51] <nahuel> wyoung, that's not an answer for my question
[08:51] <nahuel> lotuspsychje, oh, really ? thanks !
[08:51] <wyoung> nahuel: no it wasn't, it was how I got around it :)
[08:51] <alkisg> wyoung: ok, try to match the unicode characters by using a * somewhere in the filename
[08:51] <wyoung> nahuel: personal experiences and what not
[08:51] <nahuel> ;)
[08:51] <imsurit> cfhowlett: so whats coming out today is just 16.04?
[08:51] <nahuel> I use xchat non-gnome for a while now
[08:51] <nahuel> well, now hexchat ;-)
[08:51] <cfhowlett> imsurit, what else would you expect??
[08:51] <nahuel> thanks lotuspsychje!
[08:52] <imsurit> cfhowlett: ah, ok
[08:52] <wyoung> alkisg: wooooo!!!!
[08:52] <alkisg> :)
[08:52] <wyoung> alkisg: you are a genius!
[08:52] <alkisg> Haha
[08:55] <wyoung> alkisg: I take it you have ran into this issue before?
[08:57] <alkisg> wyoung: nah, I'm Greek, locale issues in Linux are daily for us here :D
[08:58] <wyoung> alkisg: ah yeah, the Greek language is fun
[08:58] <Dieselhonky> I am having an install issue using unetbootin.  after reboot i do not have a unetbootin option in my boot manager.  anyone know what the issue is?  thanks
[08:58] <wyoung>  /-?\#254\#241___.___": Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) wee!!  Bcast =
[09:05] <Bernzel> ?
[09:05] <wyoung> Dieselhonky: You are not even at the linux stage yet :) you are still on windows
[09:05] <Ben64> Bernzel: inet addr
[09:05] <Bernzel> ah thanks!
[09:05] <Dieselhonky> thanks wyoung.  very helpful
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Dieselhonky, and yet it did not work.  not going to argue here.  what you have done failed. you have been given the solution.
[09:06] <wyoung> Dieselhonky: so you just need to be a ninja black belt at windows at this stage :)
[09:06] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | wyoung please
[09:06] <Dieselhonky> for a support channel you guys are kind of assholes
[09:06] <wyoung> cfhowlett: cheers
[09:06] <wyoung> Dieselhonky: nah, I am the asshole, the other guys are cool
[09:06] <cfhowlett> and that kind of attitude gets you ignored.  this is a family friendly channel.  dropt the profanity
[09:11] <wyoung> hmmm, I keep forgetting that some people have issues with words, I guess I have been desensitised.
[09:13] <fotang> good morning. an iso (about 4.4GB) was written to an 8GB flash drive using `dd'. How can I extract the original-sized iso from the flash drive? when mounted, `df' shows "/dev/sdc 4.4G", but `dd if=/dev/sdc ..'creates an 8GB file!
[09:14] <huwjr> that’s because your memory stick is 8gb and you’re duping the entire stick not the iso
[09:14] <huwjr> dd is block level copying, not file level copying
[09:14] <fotang> the iso is a bootable image
[09:14] <stratos> when will 1604 be available?
[09:14] <alkisg> fotang: do you know the original size?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !party | stratos
[09:15] <fotang> alkisg, no
[09:15] <EriC^^> fotang: try dd if= .. of=.. bs=4.4G count=1
[09:15] <EriC^^> might get lucky
[09:16] <alkisg> fotang: run: sudo less /dev/sdc, it should show you a special listing of the iso properties, does it?
[09:17] <alkisg> Or, less extracted.iso
[09:17] <jackcom> how can i move folder including sub folder and file?
[09:17] <hateball> It's also possible to use mkisofs to create a new ISO from the files, make sure to get the bootloader as well
[09:17] <big_bill> is it out yet?
[09:17] <alkisg> fotang:  Then you're looking for something like this:
[09:17] <alkisg> Logical block size is: 2048
[09:17] <alkisg> Volume size is: 355542
[09:17] <EriC^^> jackcom: mv /dir /newlocation
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !party | big_bill
[09:17] <alkisg> fotang:  The desired size is the multiplication of those 2
[09:17] <jackcom> EriC^^: i use linux
[09:18] <EriC^^> jackcom: it's a linux command
[09:18] <alkisg> fotang: so, dd if= of= bs=2048 count=355542
[09:18] <jackcom> EriC^^: strange there is no option?
[09:19] <big_bill> theres no one at the party. am i too early?
[09:19] <jackcom> EriC^^: i want to include sub folder and sub file.
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> big_bill: 112 users...
[09:19] <Basstard`> EriC^^: No, it is not.
[09:19] <fotang> alkisg, how do i get the volume size?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> big_bill, this is not the channel for party discussion
[09:19] <alkisg> fotang: did you run the "less" command?
[09:19] <EriC^^> jackcom: yes it'll include them, you're not actually moving any data, just renaming a file
[09:19] <alkisg> (12:16:52 μμ) alkisg: fotang: run: sudo less /dev/sdc, it should show you a special listing of the iso properties, does it? Or, less extracted.iso
[09:20] <jackcom> oh thanks EriC^^
[09:20] <jackcom> :)
[09:20] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[09:21] <fotang> alkisg, thanks. i will try that
[09:23] <EriC^^> Basstard`: k
[09:23] <fotang> alkisg, `less /dev/sdc' gives error "/dev/sdc is not a regular file"
[09:23] <alkisg> fotang: what about less extracted.iso?
[09:24] <fotang> alkisg, "file.iso" may be a binary file
[09:25] <alkisg> fotang: sudo file -s /dev/sdc ?
[09:25] <fotang> alkisg, /dev/sdc: DOS/MBR boot sector
[09:26] <EriC^^> what iso is this?
[09:26] <Basstard`> EriC^^: You are probably referring to mv which is a part of coreutils and thus GNU. Linux is only a kernel.
[09:26] <EriC^^> Basstard`: oh my!
[09:26] <EriC^^> the madness, the horror, the ..
[09:27] <Arcaire> ganuu slash linux
[09:27] <alkisg> fotang: it doesn't sound like an iso 9660 format, yup, what does it contain?
[09:27] <fotang> alkisg, a bootable image
[09:27] <alkisg> fotang: more details?
[09:28] <fotang> alkisg, some linux distro somebody has brought to me to help him extract. he thinks i'm the expert
[09:29] <EriC^^> which linux distro
[09:29] <fotang> alkisg, he says Leap something
[09:29] <fotang> just a sec
[09:29] <EriC^^> paste sudo parted -l of the usb
[09:29] <fotang> alkisg,  EriC^^ Suse Leap
[09:30] <EriC^^> alkisg: wouldn't the partition table show where the end is of the iso?
[09:30] <EriC^^> fotang: why can't he just download the iso online?
[09:30] <alkisg> EriC^^, fotang: some distros are using patched .isos to make them boot from usb, cd and uefi
[09:30] <alkisg> So then they're not easily parsable by tools like "less"
[09:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:31] <alkisg> I.e. they don't have standard headers, they contain a semi-broken mbr...
[09:31] <EriC^^> uh huh
[09:31] <bulubuntu> 16.04 today or 26?
[09:32] <Ben64> bulubuntu: today sometime
[09:32] <fotang> alkisg, EriC^^ thanks for your efforts. i understand better now. i will investigate further using google
[09:32] <bulubuntu> thanks
[09:32] <alkisg> fotang: you're welcome
[09:34] <zaki> when is the 16.04 release time..?
[09:34] <Ben64> sometime in the next 24 hours
[09:34] <yacc_> Any idea if the Aquaris MQ10 supports dual monitor configurations, or only mirroring it's display to the HDMI port?
[09:35] <EriC^^> fotang: fdisk or parted should show where the last partition ends, you could use that with dd to extract the iso
[09:35] <knockknock> hello
[09:35] <zaki> why..! 15 hours allready gone here..
[09:35] <knockknock> just broke my computer with one of the pre-release versions :)
[09:35] <zaki> i cant w8 anymore..
[09:35] <Ben64> then go install the beta
[09:39] <Mustangman1966> Where can I download the final release of 16.04?
[09:39] <Ben64> the future
[09:39] <wyoung> Does being in a +10:00 UTC time zone count for being in the future?
[09:39] <Ben64> no
[09:39] <wyoung> :(
[09:40] <wyoung> so ubuntu will be released on the 22nd then :(
[09:40] <\9> why's everyone in such a rush to upgrade anyway..?
[09:41] <Ben64> it's like this every 6 months
[09:41] <\9> I know
[09:42] <wyoung> \9: cause I am still on 14.04 LTS
[09:42] <hiya> Anyone here able to install Freeradius 3.x?
[09:42] <edmoore> must be something about sprintrime and LTS
[09:42] <hiya> where did you find the sql.conf and scheme.sql?
[09:42] <edmoore> springtime*
[09:42] <Ben64> wyoung: the upgrade isn't offered by default until 16.04.1
[09:43] <\9> 14.04 is also still supported for another 3 years
[09:43] <\9> and 15.10 for another year or so?
[09:43] <\9> I'm planning on upgrading in a month or so after the release has stabilized
[09:43] <wyoung> Ben64: D:
[09:43] <Ben64> \9: 15.10 loses support in July
[09:44] <\9> oh, 3 months
[09:44] <\9> still gives me ample time though
[09:46] <edmoore> i used to be a rolling release distro person but now I often just wipe and clean-install my thinkpad once a year
[09:46] <nitish> Its 21st April. Ubuntu 16.04 lts was expected to release at this day. Has it released? Anybody have information about this?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> nitish: not yet
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !party | nitish
[09:47] <ElFuego> jwash: fixed your problem in the end?
[09:47] <edmoore> the actual reason was because i once wrote loads of stuff for a thesis on my laptop and over 3 years it accrued such a huge amount of undocumented software and scripts i'd written and mixed versions and flakey build tools and so on that it took me like 3 months to get a replacement machien (after first machine died) back to a state where i could do research
[09:47] <edmoore> - it was awful
[09:47] <edmoore> so now I force myself to document and test all my setups and by reinstalling clean every so often it forces me to check they all still work
[09:47] <edmoore> and keeps them current
[09:47] <edmoore> life has been better since
[09:47] <bulubuntu> !xenial
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> edmoore: easy on the enter button plz
[09:48] <edmoore> lotuspsychje: apologies
[09:49] <Trucker> Wow ;) there are a few here
[09:51] <wyoung> Trucker: and in the party channel too!
[09:52] <Trucker> cool
[09:52] <KeithWeisshar> should i buy the ubuntu usb stick from the canonical store?
[09:53] <EriC^^> download the iso and make a live usb
[09:53] <\9> note that ubuntu 16.04 is going to be released today, so you might want to consider waiting until it's out
[09:53] <KeithWeisshar> canonical is selling the brown ubunt usb stick for a few dollars
[09:54] <wyoung> KeithWeisshar: if you want to support ubuntu, why not
[09:54] <KeithWeisshar> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1206
[09:55] <wyoung> KeithWeisshar: I have a ubuntu mug, it is awesome
[09:55] <KeithWeisshar> once i buy the usb, can it be updated with new images
[09:56] <KeithWeisshar> will the usb be written in raw mode
[09:56] <cmdr_plx> how many hours before 16.04 is available?
[09:56] <gemclip> i need a bit of help. I have a few windows 10 shares and I am running into logging in issues from my ubuntu 15.10 box
[09:56] <wyoung> KeithWeisshar: add this to your shopping cart too --> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1126
[09:56] <KeithWeisshar> will the official ubuntu usb include a warning not to format the drive
[09:57] <gemclip> I cant get past the smb login. It keeps asking to auth to the windows share and wont take any creds
[09:57] <wyoung> KeithWeisshar: no, there is a assumed intelligence level
[09:58] <gemclip> login to the windows box is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/ username
[09:58] <wyoung> gemclip: ? an email address?
[09:58] <wyoung> gemclip: you sure/
[09:59] <gemclip> simple share is enabled with access to everyone permitted
[09:59] <gemclip> wyoung yes its the retarded way MS requires it
[10:00] <gemclip> cifs is installe on ubuntu
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !party > cmdr_plx
[10:01] <gemclip> ubuntu sees and logs into my NAS device on the same workgroup using anon access fine
[10:01] <KeithWeisshar> does the official preloaded usb flash drive in the canonical shop allow new iso images to be re-flashed to the drive once a new version of ubuntu is released?
[10:01] <KeithWeisshar> is it a re-writable drive
[10:02] <KeithWeisshar> and what brand of drive does ubuntu use
[10:04] <Guest9066> mhmd
[10:04] <infinitrix> "when" will 16.04 be released?
[10:05] <Ben64> "today"
[10:05] <infinitrix> Ben64: care to give me an exact time? :P
[10:05] <infinitrix> i've been waiting for about 15 hours.
[10:05] <The_Letter_M> Between now and 11:59PM
[10:06] <Ben64> when it's the 21st somewhere in the world
[10:06] <KeithWeisshar> does the ubuntu branded usb stick work as a normal usb flash drive
[10:06] <infinitrix> okay, so I take that none of you guys have the correct answer.
[10:06] <The_Letter_M> Yes
[10:06] <Ben64> infinitrix: it'll be out when it's out
[10:06] <KeithWeisshar> will it come with a letter to keep it in a safe place and not use it for other data
[10:07] <The_Letter_M> infinitrix, once they release it, the mirror you use needs to sync before it will tell you there's an update
[10:07] <Ben64> KeithWeisshar: maybe you should email the store, because this isn't the store support
[10:07] <KeithWeisshar> what's the official windows tool to write the iso directly to usb
[10:08] <cmdr_plx> "it'll be out when it is out"
[10:08] <infinitrix> oh no. i'm looking for a fresh install. i've been stalling for hours saying 16.04 is going to be out.
[10:08] <infinitrix> "what are you doing?"
[10:08] <KeithWeisshar> what windows tool should be used to write the hybrid iso to usb
[10:08] <infinitrix> "waiting for 16.04"
[10:08] <Qommand0r> KeithWeisshar: use something like Rufus
[10:08] <infinitrix> KeithWeisshar: rufus worked fine last i checked.
[10:09] <Ben64> infinitrix: so download and install the beta if you need it now
[10:09] <The_Letter_M> ^^ what he said
[10:09] <The_Letter_M> It'll update to the final release later when it's ready
[10:10] <infinitrix> Ben64: thought you'll be mentioning http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:12] <nitish> How many hours left in release of ubuntu 16.04 lts? P.S.: don't tell me to visi ubuntu-relase-party for countdown time. There is no countdown timer.
[10:12] <Ben64> nitish: less than 24
[10:12] <tux__> its OUT
[10:12] <Wulf> it's already released!
[10:12] <tux__> not..
[10:12] <tux__>  :P
[10:12] <l0ll1p0p> nitish: nobody knows. Its today 21st in UK's timezone
[10:12] <Wulf> like 15 minutes ago
[10:13] <Ben64> nope not out yet
[10:13] <nitish> Ben64: but it was expected to release today (21st April).
[10:13] <spikebike> and it did
[10:13] <Wulf> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[10:13] <Ben64> nitish: and it is still today, so relax
[10:13] <tux__> w00t
[10:13] <tux__> looks ready..
[10:13] <Ben64> Wulf: thats nice, but not officially out yet
[10:13] <infinitrix> spikebike: i'll take your word for it when this shows something: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/xenial/release/
[10:13] <nitish> I think Mark Shuttleworth has a slow internet connection. So he is unable to upload the file(16.04 lts).
[10:14] <spikebike> infinitrix: umm, check ubuntu.com
[10:14] <tux__> its not on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop yet
[10:14] <spikebike> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[10:14] <xavier___> Hi
[10:14] <tux__> #ubuntu-release-party
[10:14] <spikebike> that authoritative enough for ya?
[10:14] <UbuntuDude> I set keyboard shortcuts to change between workspace from ctrl 1 to ctrl 4 but they don't seem to function at all ... can anyone help please?
[10:14] <Ben64> spikebike: not out yet
[10:15] <spikebike> Ben64: hit that url
[10:15] <infinitrix> ...
[10:15] <xavier___> I've found a (probably) bug in 16.04 network/interfaces
[10:15] <Ben64> great! it's still not officially out.
[10:15] <Ben64> xavier___: cool! head to #ubuntu+1 for support until it's out
[10:15] <spikebike> heh, releases.ubuntu.com isn't official neough for ya?
[10:15] <nitish> spikebike: Beta 2 is available.
[10:15] <Ben64> spikebike: not on ubuntu.com yet, so nope
[10:15] <Ben64> !party | spikebike
[10:15] <lerner> does ubuntu need more energy if I install lots of apps?
[10:16] <infinitrix> yes!
[10:16] <infinitrix> out!
[10:16] <lerner> I mean if my battery will last shorter
[10:16] <spikebike> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:16] <spikebike> looks pretty official to me
[10:16] <Ben64> spikebike: not officially out
[10:16] <spikebike> note the lack of beta2
[10:16] <infinitrix> spikebike: !party
[10:16] <Ben64> until there's an announcement, it's not out
[10:16] <infinitrix> Ben64: ... okay.
[10:17] <infinitrix> although why would it say: last modified 20th april?
[10:19] <gemclip> anyone by chance, able to give me a hand with my network share issue?
[10:19] <captainfantastic> hello! while I was updating ubuntu, some dialog asking about setting layout changing key in terminal window and I accidentially set my shift as a modifier. Now everytime I click my left shift key layout changes. How do i revert it back?
[10:22] <UbuntuDude> I don't know why my question is so hard or not important for ubuntu experts!
[10:23] <rory> save your attempts at psychological manipulation
[10:23] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: I think it's a hard problem.
[10:23] <rory> UbuntuDude: Isn't it usually Ctrl-Alt-1 etc
[10:24] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: are you sure that "ctrl 1" or "ctrl 4" is actually the right sequence?
[10:24] <ElFuego> Sounds like a PEBCAC problem
[10:25] <UbuntuDude> rory: I've opened Keyboard > Shortcuts > Navigation and setup Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+4 for my 4 workspaces but it doesn't function!
[10:25] <nitish> Can somebody tell me that what is pastebin?
[10:25] <UbuntuDude> Yes Wulf and also sure there is no conflict with other combinations
[10:25] <ElFuego> http://bit.ly/1SxtRhk
[10:25] <de-facto> nitish its a website (pastebin.com) where you can paste text and share it via a link
[10:26] <ElFuego> nitish for u
[10:27] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: here it says "Switch to workspace 1 - Super+Home"
[10:27] <nitish> de-facto: thanx
[10:27] <nitish> ElFuego: thanx
[10:27] <UbuntuDude> Wulf: here is a screenshot from keyboard settings https://snag.gy/q6uy7F
[10:28] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: can't load this
[10:28] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: can you upload elsewhere?
[10:29] <UbuntuDude> Wulf: here Super+Home = no effect
[10:29] <UbuntuDude> DISTRIB_CODENAME=wily
[10:30] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: the screen shot could be helpful
[10:31] <UbuntuDude> Wulf: http://imgur.com/LMQhln3
[10:31] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: well, use another key combo ;)
[10:32] <Wulf> perhaps this one just doesn't work
[10:33] <paky300> ciao
[10:33] <paky300> !list
[10:34] <phil42> the alternate install image has been released
[10:34] <phil42> the server install image has been released
[10:34] <dell> yo
[10:35] <JiangOil> where can download  alternate install image
[10:35] <dell> i dont know
[10:35] <dell> but
[10:35] <dell> i wanna sex
[10:36] <JiangOil> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[10:36] <JiangOil> No new release found
[10:36] <ViaNocturna85> I can't see the new alternate installs
[10:36] <trijntje> !ops | dell
[10:36] <dell> help
[10:37] <dell> help me now
[10:37] <dell> who give me windows 7
[10:37] <dell> i hate ubuntu
[10:37] <phil42> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:38] <Mathisen> rm -rf dell
[10:38] <dezman> join #ubuntu+1
[10:38] <dell> have u windows
[10:38] <dell> ?
[10:39] <dell> ubuntu suck ass
[10:39] <ElFuego> dell: are you on windows atm?
[10:39] <UbuntuDude> Yes Wulf I've tried different combinations from Ctrl q to Ctrl r
[10:39] <UbuntuDude> and from Shift 1 to Shift 4
[10:39] <UbuntuDude> but they're not funcational again
[10:39] <sharma_> How long will it take to release 16.04 LTS?
[10:39] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: shift 1 like !!!!!!?
[10:40] <Wulf> sharma_: it's out already.
[10:40] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: how about ctrl-shift-1?
[10:40] <UbuntuDude> what shall I do to apply new hosts file rules without restart?
[10:40] <Wulf> UbuntuDude: or alt-shift-1
[10:40] <Myrtti> Wulf, sharma_ it's not, since the announcement isn't out. Please be patient, and follow-up on #ubuntu-release-party
[10:41] <UbuntuDude> Wulf: Ctrl Shift 1 to 4 is not working either
[10:41] <Mathisen> wow homepage must have alot of traffic now.. cant even reach it..
[10:41] <sharma_> Myrtti, Thanks I'm waiting...!
[10:41] <JiangOil> where can download 16.04
[10:41] <JiangOil> i waited all day
[10:42] <ViaNocturna85> JiangOil: Once it's available...from the website
[10:42] <rory> Ubuntu 16.04 isn't out yet, but when it is later today you can get it from ubuntu.com
[10:42] <UbuntuDude> Wulf: neither the alt shift #
[10:45] <gemclip> UbuntuDude: are you looking to remap the console keys? or just diffrent desktops?
[10:45] <Reptilia> When will 16.04 be released today?
[10:46] <auronandace|work> !party
[10:46] <LordMoore> Cant they put in the channel description that its not available yet. They are going to keep coming and asking
[10:46] <auronandace|work> !topic | LordMoore
[10:47] <Reptilia> Well, it is "natural" to come and ask
[10:47] <auronandace|work> but never to read...
[10:47] <LordMoore> auronandace|work: I wasn't talking about what the topic was, I mean, with everyone asking if Ubuntu is out, might be useful putting that its not out yet in the topic
[10:48] <auronandace|work> LordMoore: that is exactly what the topic says... read it
[10:48] <LordMoore> auronandace|work: Well, that makes look rather silly then doesn't it. My apologies
[10:48] <UbuntuDude> gemclip: trying to use keyboard combinations to switch between workspaces
[10:50] <gemclip> UbuntuDude: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171328/how-to-change-key-bindings-for-switching-workspaces-in-gnome3
[10:51] <Joaozitoo> when will be 16.04 be released?
[10:51] <ColormeBad> Hey everyone, i have this weird issue :(, I have a custom assigned mac address for my lxc container on the one host at <IP_ADDRESS> and my firewall at <IP_ADDRESS> has a static dhcp entry for it's mac address, but when I checked my arp-scan -l output this morning its showing duplicates on that <IP_ADDRESS> address with the exact same mac address for each DU
[10:51] <ColormeBad> P
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !party > Joaozitoo
[10:51] <ColormeBad> I tried stopping the container and the address still responds, rechecked arp-scan thereafter and the mac address is still the same
[10:51] <ColormeBad> any help please
[10:51] <Joaozitoo> !xenial
[10:52] <ColormeBad> *sorry meant <IP_ADDRESS> on checking the arp-scan again
[10:52] <Kiwikaki> 16.04 is out
[10:52] <Myrtti> Joaozitoo: no set time, but usually afternoon UK time.
[10:52] <Myrtti> Kiwikaki: as the announcment isn't on the mailing list yet, it's not.
[10:52] <Joaozitoo> Myrttti Thanks :D
[10:53] <Kiwikaki> Myrtti: Scroll down: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[10:53] <Myrtti> Kiwikaki: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[10:54] <a40ntistos> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ boom :)
[10:54] <Joaozitoo> that link does not work to me :(
[10:54] <ngalim> what is channel name for ubuntu programming or development
[10:54] <Myrtti> just hang on tight and wait
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ngalim: #ubuntu-devel
[10:55] <ngalim> lotuspsychje, thank you
[10:55] <ikonia> ngalim: that channel is for the development of the ubuntu product, not for programming on ubuntu
[10:56] <ikonia> ngalim: what is it you're looking to do ? there maybe a better channel
[10:56] <ngalim> i'm trying to learning fixing bugs
[10:56] <ikonia> ngalim: what part are you not clear on ?
[10:56] <ngalim> where i should start?
[10:56] <ikonia> ngalim: have you found a bug on launchpad.net you think you can fix
[10:57] <ngalim> not yet, i am still learning programming in linux environment
[10:57] <ikonia> ngalim: ok - so that would be the first thing, finding something on launchpad.net you think you can fix with your current skill level
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | ngalim
[10:59] <ngalim> lotuspsychje, i've visited the link before
[10:59] <zerons> okay,,,, 16.04 LTS released
[10:59] <reactormonk> Is it a good idea to automatically install security updates and how would I do so on a server?
[10:59] <ikonia> zerons: no it's not
[10:59] <ngalim> currently i am in progress translating ubuntu doc for Indonesian
[10:59] <ikonia> please do not spread false info
[11:00] <a40ntistos> ikonia: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ ?
[11:00] <ikonia> no
[11:00] <auronandace|work> ngalim: cool, keep up the good work
[11:01] <ngalim> auronandace|work, thank you
[11:01] <Myrtti> if you're wondering if it's been released: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[11:01] <BitBurners> Hey guys, is it the Apr 20th .ISO images their are about to release today?
[11:01] <pseudonymous> Is there a countdown or something like that for the 16.04 release  ?
[11:01] <Myrtti> yes, in #ubuntu-release-party, pseudonymous
[11:01] <Myrtti> (there's no set time, tho)
[11:02] <BitBurners> Moro @Myrtti
[11:02] <ngalim> but since number of open bugs in ubuntu about 120375, i think i could help fixing it
[11:02] <Myrtti> _o> BitBurners
[11:03] <trijntje> ngalim: there used to be a project that tracks easy to fix bugs, its called 100 papercuts project I think
[11:03] <ngalim> but the problem is, i am used to programming in windows environment not in linux
[11:03] <ikonia> ngalim: ok ? so start doing some tutorials/reading
[11:04] <BitBurners> I feel like installing already - can anyone confirm that the Apr 20th .ISOs are the one?
[11:04] <ikonia> BitBurners: no
[11:04] <ikonia> that is called "the release"
[11:04] <Myrtti> BitBurners: you can install today with whatever iso, it's easy to upgrade if there's changes
[11:04] <ikonia> as there has been no-announcement, no one can confirm
[11:04] <ngalim> ikonia, yes i am
[11:04] <ikonia> ngalim: thats great
[11:05] <BitBurners> @Myrtti - yeah I am aware. Usually the "gold" .ISOs have been known a day or two before.
[11:05] <Myrtti> BitBurners: obviously this channel will officially wait for the announcment email at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ before saying yay or nay ;-)
[11:05] <ngalim> ikonia, but the material i am reading does not talk about fixing bugs
[11:05] <popey> BitBurners: not in this case
[11:06] <ikonia> ngalim: once you learn how to do the development, you'll know how to fix bugs
[11:07] <ngalim> ikonia, okay thanks for your advice. better i am read more tutorials now.
[11:07] <torpet> mom, is it out yet?
[11:07] <ikonia> no
[11:07] <torpet> what about now?
[11:07] <BitBurners> @popey: Well they must be/have been release testing one of the daily builds.
[11:07] <ikonia> torpet: don't be a problem
[11:07] <torpet> ikonia: no humour allowed in here?
[11:08] <ikonia> no
[11:08] <Myrtti> this is srs bsns
[11:12] <phil42> it's out torpet
[11:12] <torpet> yay
[11:12] <ikonia> it's not
[11:12] <phil42> which version u wont?
[11:13] <phil42> i will find it for you
[11:13] <ikonia> please do not give out links
[11:13] <ikonia> it is not released
[11:13] <Myrtti> if you're wondering if it's been released: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/
[11:13] <ikonia> ^ there you go
[11:14] <phil42> i can give you the lubuntu link if you want it
[11:14] <Myrtti> phil42: please don't.
[11:14] <ikonia> do not phil42
[11:14] <zerons> check released.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[11:14] <phil42> go to #lubuntu for lubuntu link
[11:14] <ikonia> phil42: NO
[11:14] <ikonia> phil42: what part of do not share it
[11:15] <Kapuh_> hello.  is ther a easy way to use cisco anyconnect on ubuntu ?
[11:16] <Choe_> hello
[11:17] <LordMoore> ikonia: Do you need to be an official Ubuntu member to be an -o here?
[11:17] <ikonia> no
[11:17] <sruli> Kapuh_: its needs many 32bit libs, on 12.04 it worked fine in 14.04 it was comlicated but poss, anything newer i couldnt get it to work, i found the anyconnect 64bit version wont work at all, just use 32bit
[11:18] <Shags> Hi all.
[11:18] <Shags> I was wondering how I can add my Windows install to the GRUB bootloader
[11:18] <Shags> I have tried using grub-update, but it doesn't seem to pick up my windows install
[11:18] <Shags> Any ideas?
[11:19] <Kapuh_> sruli, aah yer same problem here. i'll try the 32bit, thanks for the info
[11:19] <Gasher> hello, where can I get 16.04 ISO? the website still has 14.04 and 15.10, whilst the links on OMGUbuntu don't work
[11:19] <Shags> Gasher: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/16.04/
[11:19] <Gasher> thank you :)
[11:19] <Shags> Gasher: no problem :)
[11:20] <Gasher> well, those are beta2 ISOs
[11:20] <ramsRambo> the software update manager is stuck for while with "Preconfiguring packages" why is it stuck ?
[11:20] <Gasher> so yeah, it's not what I'm looking for
[11:20] <auronandace|work> !party | Gasher
[11:20] <Shags> Gasher: ah sorry
[11:21] <Gasher> it looks like the ubuntu channel is for nothing, there are 242134 channels for specific things
[11:22] <hateball> Gasher: You could read the topic
[11:23] <ramsRambo> the software update manager is stuck for while with "Preconfiguring packages" why is it stuck ? I am running 14.04 LTS
[11:25] <Shags> any help for me guys?
[11:25] <ikonia> !grub2 | Shags
[11:25] <ikonia> Shags: there should be some notes in there about adding windows/other os's to grub
[11:25] <DammitJim> I'm confused.... did the patch for samba badlock already get released?
[11:25] <Shags> ikonia: tried it all
[11:25] <DammitJim> I thought it was being tested
[11:25] <ikonia> Shags: tried what all ?
[11:25] <vooze> If doing a clean install of 16.04 from 14.04 with iso on USB and I want to keep UEFI, what should I do during install? I normally just mount /home (dont format) and format the / partition, but this time I have UEFI as well.
[11:26] <Shags> from those links, ikonia
[11:26] <ikonia> Shags: what have you done
[11:26] <Shags> update-grub
[11:26] <ikonia> Shags: before that ?
[11:26] <geirha1> DammitJim: You can see what the last changes to samba are with apt-get changelog samba
[11:26] <Shags> I guess I'll need to boot a live version and run boot-repair?
[11:26] <ikonia> no
[11:27] <ikonia> who said anything about that ?
[11:27] <Shags> the link
[11:27] <ikonia> really ? where
[11:27] <DammitJim> geirha1, thanks... would that tell me the CVE?
[11:27] <DammitJim> I'm checking
[11:27] <geirha1> CVE is usually included in the changelog, yes
[11:27] <Shags> actually that's if GRUB is missing I think
[11:27] <Shags> which it isn't
[11:28] <ikonia> vooze: clean install from 14.04 ?
[11:28] <ikonia> Shags: please READ the links
[11:28] <klystron_> hi have a question regarding the ubuntu Aquaris M10 Tablet
[11:28] <ikonia> rather than the headlines
[11:28] <Shags> ikonia: yes I have
[11:28] <ikonia> Shags: there are two or three other links off there that show you how to set this up
[11:28] <ikonia> Shags: really, what have you done other than "update-grub"
[11:28] <Shags> ikonia: such as the custommenus stuff?
[11:28] <ikonia> Shags: possible, and the prober
[11:28] <vooze> ikonia: yes, I figured it would be "easier" but I forgot about UEFI partition. When I set it up I used gparted to create a FAT32 on 100mb, and ubuntu did its thing.
[11:29] <ikonia> Shags: what hav eyou done other than "update-grub"
[11:29] <Shags> ikonia: I have tried the prober
[11:29] <Shags> ikonia: as in, os-prober?
[11:29] <ikonia> vooze: I'm not sure what you mean "from 14.04" a clean install is from nothing
[11:29] <Shags> I mounted the windows drive, then ran os-prober and update-grub
[11:29] <klystron_> the tablet comes with 15.10 will it upgradeable to 16.04 ?
[11:29] <Shags> and it still won't detect my windows partition
[11:29] <Shags> also note that windows and linux are on separate hard drives
[11:29] <ikonia> Shags: and did it detect it at all, or just not update the menu
[11:29] <ikonia> Shags: is your windows partition encypted
[11:29] <Shags> ikonia: not that I know of
[11:29] <Shags> it didn't detect it
[11:29] <Shags> at all
[11:29] <vooze> ikonia: fair enough. A clean install, but I want to keep UEFI partition and /home .. I know how to mount /home again, but I'm unsure about UEFI
[11:30] <ikonia> vooze: just don't format the efi partition
[11:30] <Shags> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15963275/
[11:30] <ikonia> Shags: what happens if you add a manual entry and try to boot it
[11:30] <Shags> I'm not sure how to add the manual entry, I think it's the solution but could you help me?
[11:30] <ikonia> Shags: it's listed in the custom menu option
[11:30] <vooze> ikonia: okay, and Ubuntu will just reuse it?
[11:31] <ikonia> vooze: yes, it will just add the new boot location info
[11:31] <vooze> ikonia: awesome, thank you :)
[11:31] <Shags> ikonia: how do I find which partition and drive the Windows install is?
[11:32] <Shags> e.g. (hdX, Y)
[11:32] <klystron_> look for the ntfs partion
[11:33] <Shags> klystron_: how?
[11:33] <pavelz> hi I am trying to figure out how 'apt-mark hold' works but I can't figure out what files it is writing to
[11:33] <klystron_> gparted
[11:33] <Shags> thanks
[11:33] <ap0> Shags, lsblk
[11:34] <Shags> ap0, but how do I find it in the form (hdX, Y)?
[11:35] <bazhang> shags the link given above outlines that very thing
[11:35] <bazhang> shags it is no longer noted as such
[11:35] <Shags> bazhang: what do you mean?
[11:36] <bazhang> Shags, the (hdx,etc is no longer used
[11:36] <Shags> oh really?
[11:36] <Shags> the menuentry uses it though
[11:36] <bazhang> Shags, please have a very careful read of the link given earlier, it is very thorough
[11:36] <wyre> where can I download ubuntu 16.04?
[11:36] <rollingWolf> Was kinda expecting 16.04 to be released by now
[11:36] <Shags> I am bazhang
[11:36] <bazhang> wyre not available yet
[11:37] <Shags> bazhang: and it says to add a custom menu entry for windows 7 we need the (hdX, Y) stuff
[11:37] <bazhang> !party | wyre
[11:37] <brainwash> pavelz: man apt-mark
[11:38] <Linuxero> Hello
[11:38] <wyoung> hi Linuxero !
[11:38] <wyre> bazhang, but will be released today?
[11:39] <Shags> bazhang: any ideas?
[11:39] <wyoung> wyre: Join the party channel!
[11:39] <Shags> bazhang: I've read the article
[11:39] <Shags> bazhang: and it seems the fix is to add a custom menu entry, but to do so I need to know the HD number and the partition
[11:39] <Shags> ?
[11:39] <DammitJim> geirha1, what's confusing is that when the threat came out, it was said to be in ubuntu testing
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <DammitJim> but the date of the package is from around that time
[11:40] <DammitJim> can anyone else here confirm that about the samba badlock issue?
[11:40] <Linuxero> At what time is Ubuntu 16.04 going to be released?
[11:40] <bazhang> Shags, really, it is very clearly laid out in the link, if you have further questions please ask the channel every 10-15 minutes and not ask a single individual
[11:40] <wyoung> Linuxero: soon
[11:41] <th34lch3m1st> hi
[11:41] <Shags> i'm asking a further question bazhang, I have read the link and it is not clearly laid out at all. I need to get the hard drive number and partition number and that is not laid out at all in the link.
[11:41] <Linuxero> I checked a web countdown yesterday when there were 4 hours remaining...
[11:41] <somsip> Linuxero: today. it's often in the pm PST
[11:41] <Linuxero> Ok, thank you very much.
[11:41] <Linuxero> :)
[11:41] <pavelz> brainwash: yeah but extended_states does not reflect packages that I've put on hild
[11:41] <pavelz> hold
[11:43] <brainwash> pavelz: according to the manual, it should
[11:43] <pavelz> well it does not :)
[11:43] <pavelz> brainwash:
[11:44] <brainwash> maybe strace it then
[11:44] <brainwash> and see which file(s) it touches
[11:45] <JiangOil> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[11:45] <Choe_> 16.04 Official version released?
[11:46] <brainwash> pavelz: maybe /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:48] <DiamondSword> new version is released: 16.04
[11:48] <DiamondSword> https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/723112408437284864
[11:48] <DammitJim> woohoo
[11:48] <DammitJim> fresh off the oven
[11:50] <sruli> thanks
[11:50] <sruli> where can i download lubuntu and gnome-ubuntu?
[11:51] <geirha> They're a bit later to the party
[11:51] <LordMoore> sruli: Gnome: https://ubuntugnome.org/download/ and Lubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[11:52] <somsip> !isitout
[11:52] <ap0> actually it is
[11:52] <geirha> Yeah, 16.10 isn't out yet. Have some patience
[11:52] <sruli> LordMoore: those are still showing 15.10
[11:52] <LordMoore> sruli: 16.04 isn't out yet for those
[11:53] <sruli> LordMoore: are they also expected today?
[11:55] <ap0> sruli, here are torrent links http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/xenial/release/desktop/
[11:56] <LordMoore> sruli: Here is 16.04 for Gnome, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/xenial/release/desktop/
[11:56] <melvster> hi all ... im trying to upgrade desktop to 16.04 ( http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ ) it's there but my update-manager says software is up to date.  Can I force it?
[11:57] <geirha> It probably waits until 16.04.1 before offering to upgrade
[11:57] <bazhang> melvster, what does lsb_release -a   say
[11:57] <melvster> bazhang: im on 15.10
[11:59] <melvster> geirha: thanks!  do you know when 16.04.1 might come out?  Or is there I way I can do it manually?
[12:02] <JuJuBee> melvster: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[12:03] <volker> installed ubuntu 16.04lts via Internet-problem-how can i use kernel 4.xxx --cannot find kernel in bootoptions? somethings forgot to do?
[12:03] <geirha> melvster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS_or_15.10
[12:03] <JuJuBee> melvster: nm, didn't see the earlier post
[12:03] <l0ll1p0p> emcq: sup?
[12:04] <UbuntuDude> gemclip: thanks but it didn't solve the problem .. still not able to use the keyboard shortcuts
[12:05] <melvster> geirha: I tried all those steps but it doesnt prompt me to upgrade ... hmmm
[12:06] <badro> hi
[12:07] <badro> hi
[12:07] <badro> y'a personne ?
[12:07] <badro> y'a du monde mais persone parle
[12:07] <Wulf> !fr badro
[12:08] <geirha> ah well, update-manager -d will probably show it then. I'm not currently on an ubuntu system to test
[12:08] <Wulf> !fr | badro
[12:08] <soupnanodesukar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[12:08] <soupnanodesukar> :^)
[12:09] <melvster> geirha: thanks!  update manager -d still give 'The software on this computer is up to date' -- curious
[12:12] <melvster> maybe sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <melvster> nope
[12:14] <Annoyed> Hello... I understand there was an update for Samba this week, to fix badlock bug... It seems to have made any shares unwriteble. Windows clients can see, open files, but can't write to them, or the directories.. anyone know anything about this?
[12:14] <efpeoi> Hi everybody ! Is someone having problems with the samba update from 4.1.6 to 4.3.8 on Ubuntu 14.04 ? I can't mount remote shares automatically like i used to do with pam_mount_conf.xml, can someone help me ? :) Thanks in advance !
[12:15] <Annoyed> efpeoi: sounds related to my question
[12:15] <efpeoi> Annoyed, totally and i'm totally stuck with no answers and 60+ computers not working atm :D
[12:16] <soupnanodesukar> Annoyed: probably the quickest way to solve it is to compile a local copy yourself, (this is easier than it sounds,) or find the old packages and install them.
[12:17] <soupnanodesukar> esp. in a production environment. For regular users I'd recommend using the old packages.
[12:17] <survietamine> hello all, on an 12.04 server, I'd like to update /etc/resolv.conf but it's "controlled" by resolvconf ; I tried resolvconf -u which generated a new file but with old config not the new ones in /etc/network/interfaces. Can I "force" resolvconf to update infos without restarting networking services (the server is in production)
[12:17] <Annoyed> Any idea if a patch is forthcoming? I can live without it for a few days.. I don't have time to redo manually
[12:18] <brainwash> Annoyed: does a bug report exist on launchpad?
[12:19] <efpeoi> soupnanodesukar_, i've tried to rollback to the old packages without success, too much dependencies and i'm not that okay with compiling it myseld on 60 computers /
[12:19] <efpeoi> :/
[12:19] <Annoyed> survietamine: I had the same thing when I set this box up; there is a way to stop the automatics, but I forget the details.
[12:19] <Lewix> hey guys
[12:19] <Lewix> I need some help asap. My ubuntu machine his down
[12:19] <Wulf> Lewix: reboot it
[12:19] <Lewix> ACPI PCC Probe Failed
[12:19] <soupnanodesukar_> efpeoi: 60 computers? ouch
[12:20] <Lewix> so it idles after that
[12:20] <Wulf> Lewix: disable acpi on kernel command line
[12:20] <Lewix> what's acpi and how do i disable it, i have access to root via F1
[12:20] <melvster> oh it just came in
[12:20] <melvster> upgrading, thanks! :)
[12:20] <efpeoi> soupnanodesukar_, yeah automatic updates with puppet and you come one morning with nothing working anymore :D
[12:21] <Lewix> Wulf: ?
[12:22] <skinux> So, Ubuntu 16.04 is finally released. I believe do-release-upgrade is the right command? Also, how many times will Ubuntu have to reboot to install upgrade?
[12:23] <soupnanodesukar_> efpeoi: anyway, there's no guarantee that compiling from master may not fix the issue if it's new behaviour. Though usually if it's a showstopping bug, it's fixed within a day or so because it means devs can't run their own program. So I'm surprised that the devs don't know about it. Maybe drop a line on #samba?
[12:24] <efpeoi> soupnanodesukar_, Yeah me too i'm surprised but the bug have already been signaled and i've just asked some help on #samba ;)
[12:24] <efpeoi> but still.. without success !
[12:24] <dezman> join /#ubuntu-release-party
[12:24] <brainwash> Annoyed: bug 1572122
[12:24] <brainwash> Annoyed: bug 1572301
[12:26] <skinux> How can i find out if my system uses Radeon graphics?
[12:26] <UbuntuDude> how to make Esc button function the same in Ubuntu as in Windows where it closes the window/dialog on top?
[12:26] <Wulf> skinux: lspci
[12:27] <efpeoi> i'd say "lspci | grep VGA" skinux
[12:27] <capio> hey. i have a hp pav x2 that has a intel atom processor it runs windows 10 32 bits. Does it run ubuntu?
[12:27] <skinux> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:27] <efpeoi> skinux, intel graphics ;)
[12:27] <Annoyed> Thanks for info, folks... I guess I'll wait for a patch. Going backwards to earlier versions is usually a big headache
[12:28] <efpeoi> Annoyed, i've tried the rollback since 8hours without success, i confirm for the headache :D
[12:28] <Annoyed> I can't afford to put that kind of time into it
[12:29] <de-facto> hmm trying to write the cd image to an usb stick from within a virtual machine, but i just get "could not write disk image (...) to the device (/dev/sda).... well WHY?
[12:29] <de-facto> that is with Startup Disk Creator
[12:29] <skinux> So, I'm guessing I don't have Radeon
[12:29] <cebor> ughs 16.04 still has this annoying grup warning: Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported. :(
[12:29] <pseudonymous> Does anyone know exactly which time 16.04 will be out ? I'm asking because I'll need to download it in advance of visiting some people in need of an upgrade
[12:30] <cebor> grub
[12:30] <efpeoi> de-facto, you sould learn how to use the "dd" command to write an image to a disk
[12:30] <Annoyed> thanks
[12:30] <soupnanodesukar_> Annoyed: In the meantime, perhaps just run an unauthenticated share.
[12:31] <de-facto> efpeoi yeah i know about that, but it seems to be kinda unreliable
[12:31] <zaki> can i duelboot ubuntu and backtrack?
[12:31] <soupnanodesukar_> cebor: comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[12:32] <efpeoi> de-facto, you unmount your device, prepare it with fdisk then dd if=myfile.iso off=/dev/sdX where X is the letter assigned to you drive
[12:32] <efpeoi> de-facto, this is totally reliable
[12:32] <unique_> hi
[12:34] <de-facto> efpeoi hmmm what about the bootloader then?
[12:38] <efpeoi> de-facto, i've always burned my iso files like that and never had a problem with the bootloader
[12:38] <guest_> Hi, I would like to ask if Ubuntu 16.04 allows to install MIR and it works for basic usage, movies, and maybe some 3d games with nvidia cards
[12:39] <pseudonymous> guest_: no - Mir has no industry support yet (Nvidia/AMD) so games are out of the question unless the open source drivers would work
[12:40] <guest_> pseydonyous. So if nouveau works with X for a game, should it work with MIR too?
[12:40] <akik> efpeoi: using fdisk before dd is unnecessary
[12:41] <de-facto> efpeoi i mean if i formated with fdisk  i would need to dd it to /dev/sda1 (which does not install the bootloader in front of the partition table) or if i dd to /dev/sda i would not need to fdisk it before
[12:41] <survietamine> ok, the echo "..." | sudo resolconf -a bond0.inet found on this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/224966/how-do-i-get-resolvconf-to-regenerate-resolv-conf-after-i-change-etc-network-in did the job :p
[12:41] <survietamine> thanks anyway
[12:41] <guest_> pseudonymous. So if nouveau works with X for a game, should it work with MIR too?
[12:41] <pseudonymous> guest_: I wouldn't know. I don't use Mir nor have any particular interest in it yet, sorry :S
[12:42] <brainwash> !mir
[12:42] <pseudonymous> guest_: What I would say is this: Mir (and Wayland, for that matter) are a ways off from prime-time. I wouldn't really recommend using either unless you're somehow getting off on pain :P
[12:43] <guest_> pseudonymous ok :)  I will stick to X then. I though there would be 2 install options for 16.04 (X or MIR)
[12:43] <efpeoi> de-facto, yeah you are right, i'm doing this for USB sticks to put live sytems on them so i don't really need to put the bootloader at a specific place
[12:44] <guest_> pseudonymous thank you!
[12:44] <brainwash> guest_: you could test it by installing unity8 (ideally in a test environment).
[12:44] <guest_> brainwash could it break the installation, or only freeze the computer?
[12:44] <pseudonymous> guest_: no problem :)
[12:45] <mave_> when will 16.04 be released on the repositories?
[12:45] <brainwash> guest_: both things could happen
[12:45] <guest_> brainwash then I stick with good old X :)
[12:45] <pseudonymous> So - is everyone here just installing the 16.04 beta or has the iso been released ?
[12:45] <mave_> do-release-upgrade gives 'No new release found"
[12:45] <akik> de-facto: you set the of= of the dd command to the device name of the usb stick. you dont't need to partition your usb stick beforehand
[12:45] <guest_> brainwash thank you!
[12:45] <tyl> hi
[12:46] <tyl> anyone got an eta for 16.04lts?
[12:46] <Wulf> tyl: 9 hours
[12:46] <tyl> cheers pal
[12:47] <zaki> its out..
[12:47] <mave_> not here
[12:47] <xenialphile> There is an ISO at http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[12:47] <mave_> i want to upgrade, no clean install
[12:48] <zaki> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/ubuntu-16-04-download-new-features
[12:48] <pseudonymous> Would anyone know what exactly the difference is between 16.04 + mate desktop versus the mate spin/flavour/<whatever term>
[12:48] <zaki>  https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/723112408437284864
[12:48] <tyl> thx@zaki
[12:49] <pseudonymous> xenialphile: thanks for the link, by the way :)
[12:49] <mave_> well zaki, how do you explain this?
[12:49] <mave_> # do-release-upgrade
[12:49] <tyl> thx@zenialphile
[12:49] <mave_> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[12:49] <mave_> No new release found
[12:49] <pseudonymous> mave_: it's generally bad IRC etiquette to spam (writing many messages in a short interval)
[12:49] <xenialphile> mave: update-manager -d
[12:50] <mave_> pseudonymous, i'm not going to pastebin 3 lines
[12:50] <kilbith> hello, is there a reason why ubuntu still uses compiz (no longer maintained) instead of mutter ?
[12:50] <zaki> its from official ubuntu twitter page
[12:50] <VoidWhisperer> oo, 16.04 has google drive integration
[12:50] <mave_> xenialphile, that updates to a development release right?
[12:51] <dromader> viva xubuntu
[12:51] <mave_> and i'm running the server version
[12:51] <pseudonymous> mave_: then rephrase in such a way that you don't write some 5 msgs out into separate lines.
[12:52] <xenialphile> mave_: It works for upgrading rolling 15.10 desktop to 16.04, if you have the appropraite software sources enabled. That's all I can tell you. Just try it in VM if you need to test.
[12:52] <dromader> someone here have tested ubuntu 16.04 ?
[12:52] <dromader> what's new ?
[12:52] <kucengaer> i had it since the beta releases
[12:53] <mave_> i'm not running desktop version xenialphile, it opens the GUI updater as i can see
[12:53] <mave_> but thx, i will look further
[12:54] <frameset> I'm running Ubuntu server in the UK, and i'm getting "no new version available" from do-release-upgrade, is it not available in the UK yet?
[12:54] <kostas_> g
[12:54] <DJones> frameset: Its not been released yet
[12:54] <frameset> ah! hacker news lied to me :(
[12:54] <kucengaer> frameser: i think there is the force option
[12:54] <kostas_> hallo
[12:54] <pseudonymous> dromader: fair amount of things. The Linux Action Show has a review of it, and a follow-up review/discussion in their sister show Linux unplugged
[12:55] <kostas_> hehehe
[12:55] <xenialphile> mave_: I am not going to tell you what to do, but you might not want to upgrade a server until you're sure the thing works properly.
[12:55] <dromader> oh thanls pseudonymous
[12:55] <kostas_> he\
[12:55] <kostas_> he
[12:55] <frameset> it's not super urgent for me to upgrade, so I'll wait till it hits the normal channels
[12:55] <kostas_> he
[12:55] <kostas_> he
[12:55] <kostas_> he
[12:55] <edwinksl> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[12:56] <mave_> hehe good point xenialphile, but i already made an image. So if anything goes wrong i can restore it
[12:57] <xenialphile> mave_: The worst problems are when it *mostly* works but 1 thing is slightly different and no-one notices for 3 months until you find out some database has incorrect values :-)
[12:59] <coolomatics> edwinksl, thanks. joining the torrent
[13:01] <tonyt> is the 16.04 final now?