[00:00] <exedore6> ikona - It is if other people have physical access to your computer.
[00:00] <Sec_Guy> It is a step in a plan I am considering
[00:00] <mnemonic_> It's not actually "more difficult" if you encrypt your home folder (so long as you store your paraphrase in a safe place).
[00:00] <Sec_Guy> right exedore6
[00:00] <k1l> Sec_Guy: encryption helps against physical access if the machine is not booted. so its just one part of a bigger picture
[00:00] <ikonia> mnemonic_: it is when it fails and you try to recover it
[00:00] <exedore6> ikonia: So, if you have a roommate, or a spouse, or whatever.
[00:00] <ikonia> you must see the volume of people in here saying "I can't at my data"
[00:00] <wafflejock> yeah it happens pretty often
[00:01] <wafflejock> because they hit a checkbox and didn't understand the implications
[00:01] <ikonia> exedore6: I'd just protect the few files
[00:01] <wafflejock> they just wanted "privacy"
[00:01] <Sec_Guy> that's my point Kil        data at rest in a powered down machine is safer...   if it is  booted to CD, it could be compromised.
[00:01] <exedore6> That’s it. Privacy ain’t easy.
[00:01] <k1l> Sec_Guy: but be aware that encryption is a big layer that can cause technical difficulties (and delete all your data if the key gets lost etc).
[00:01] <ikonia> there are needs for it - but for the average person, it's not
[00:01] <Sec_Guy> I am thinking that if the passphrase is necessry to bring up the machine, my data may be safer
[00:01] <ikonia> Sec_Guy: not really
[00:02] <exedore6> ikonia: How do you figure?
[00:02] <k1l> Sec_Guy: so most users are fine with putting their data into an encrypted container.
[00:02] <ikonia> Sec_Guy: what are you trying to protect - what actual data ?
[00:02] <ikonia> exedore6: figure what ?
[00:02] <exedore6> ikonia: Data being less safe encrypted?
[00:02] <Sec_Guy> ikonia:    I want any and everything I ever put on my linux to be encrypted.
[00:02] <ikonia> i didn't say that
[00:02] <ikonia> Sec_Guy: why?
[00:03] <Sec_Guy> how does tha tmatter ikonia ?
[00:03] <ikonia> because most people who do this - are not protecting anything but think encyption = safe
[00:03] <ikonia> and most people don't actually need it - as they are protecting nothing of value, or stuff that is accessed in other ways anyway
[00:03] <ikonia> not everyone - but pretty much (I'd guess %70 of the people asking for it)
[00:03] <Sec_Guy> I'll risk that ikonia     I am just looking around to see if anyone has ideas to fill in the holes in my thinking
[00:04] <exedore6> Sec_Guy: One reason to do it (encrypt the whole drive) is so you don’t have to deal with wiping the drive later. Encrypt with a key on boot, burn the key when you get rid of the drive.
[00:04] <ikonia> what holes ?
[00:04] <ikonia> use full disk encryption - your disk is encypted as you ask, job done
[00:04] <Sec_Guy> right ikonia     So the only hole you see in that plan is entering pass @ reboot, machine is down utnil I come home.  That' what I concluded too
[00:05] <ikonia> Sec_Guy: there is no hole
[00:05] <ikonia> the disk is encypted as you ask
[00:05] <exedore6> Sec_Guy: What about your backup?
[00:06] <Sec_Guy> so... let's say I do this. . Someone takes the box..    What is first step they try to get my data? Boot to livecd and find encrypted data, right?
[00:06] <ikonia> they can't get the data
[00:06] <ikonia> it's locked
[00:06] <Sec_Guy> Right exedore6    b/u has to be stored offsite and/or in a safe
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> afaik it would protect from your original situation of theft, as soon as the box powers down they would need the passphrase to get into it.
[00:06] <Sec_Guy> good nick SchrodingersScat ..  and I agree with your assessment.
[00:07] <exedore6> They could brute force the passphrase.
[00:07] <Sec_Guy> wondering how someone would then find the pass to try a brute force
[00:07] <exedore6> They could brute force the key.
[00:07] <ikonia> they wouldn't
[00:07] <ikonia> you use a safe password
[00:07] <Sec_Guy> how would they get to the key?
[00:07] <ikonia> if you're taking this much effort to protect "data" you'd use a safe password
[00:07] <ikonia> they would need to get the key from you
[00:07] <ikonia> it's up to you how you store it
[00:07] <ikonia> and how you secure it
[00:07] <exedore6> They could brute force the data (‘guess’ the encryption key) (very difficult to impossible)
[00:08] <exedore6> Or they could brute force the password, which encrypts the key.
[00:08] <Sec_Guy> I've devised a pass that I can repeat and type ad nauseum...
[00:08] <exedore6> Truth of the matter, they’ll punch you in the neck till you tell them.
[00:08] <Sec_Guy> I want to learn John well enough to see how long it takes to brute force it.
[00:08] <ikonia> John ?
[00:08] <ikonia> please don't say John the ripper
[00:08] <Sec_Guy> yah, I've see that comic exedore6
[00:09] <Sec_Guy> why not ikonia ?
[00:09] <ikonia> because it's comical
[00:09] <ikonia> you're saying you're taking securiy serious - yet you want to brute force your own password with a toy
[00:09] <exedore6> Sec_Guy: From the 90s
[00:09] <Sec_Guy> I'm happy to listen if you have a better tool
[00:09] <mekhami> can this be in offtopic now
[00:09] <ikonia> I suggest you don't try to brute force your own password
[00:09] <Sec_Guy> and more like the 70s, tyvm
[00:09] <ikonia> mekhami: yes, it is
[00:10] <ikonia> a good point
[00:11] <Steve1111> when is mate 16.04 out of beta? is it still april 24
[00:12] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | Steve1111
[00:12] <k1l> Steve1111: all ubuntus are released then.
[00:12] <cheyan> exit
[00:12] <cheyan> woops
[00:26] <twitchytoes> Having issues with ubuntu that I can't diagnose ever since I got my new board.  Boot time takes forever, systemd-analyze spits out that I'm spending 1 minute 30-43 seconds in kernel.
[00:27] <twitchytoes> Output of systemd-analyze: Startup finished in 7.712s (firmware) + 21.491s (loader) + 1min 31.439s (kernel) + 822ms (userspace) = 2min 1.465s
[00:41] <twitchytoes> Returned with a fresh boot, http://pastebin.com/DpAsmxBT Dmesg output
[00:42] <twitchytoes> Just noticed it jumps from 2 seconds to 91 seconds
[00:43] <k1l> twitchytoes: well, what kernel is that? thats not the regular ubuntu kernel
[00:43] <twitchytoes> 4.5
[00:43] <twitchytoes> 4.4 and 4.2 does it too
[00:43] <twitchytoes> Any ubuntu-based distro has this issue on this board for some reason
[00:43] <twitchytoes> Pulled from the ubuntu mainline repo
[00:44] <twitchytoes> journalctl -xb skips from 19:37:55 to 19:38:11 to 19:40:44
[00:45] <k1l> is this a chromebook?
[00:45] <twitchytoes> No
[00:45] <twitchytoes> Intel DZ77GA-70K Desktop board
[00:45] <twitchytoes> i7 3770 with AMD R9 380
[00:47] <k1l> try a reboot with manual adding "tpm_tis.force=1" as kernel bootparameter
[00:47] <twitchytoes> Would it be safe to add that via default/grub?  I have issues getting into grub's menu consistently.
[00:48] <uruk7> hello i want cp a file but fail cp *"5x13"* "/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A005%2C004%5D/Card/vid/series/gri/gri5x13.mp4"
[00:48] <dogarrhea> The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-generic-lts-wily
[00:48] <dogarrhea> what the hell is libsexy
[00:48] <k1l> i would prefer the manual edit. if the system doesnt boot at all afterwards. its more work to undo the default setting
[00:48] <dogarrhea> sounds like a horny nerd linux programmer
[00:49] <twitchytoes> Yeah
[00:49] <twitchytoes> Let me see if I can pull out the hide timer
[00:49] <twitchytoes> I'm on 16.04 because 15.10 and 14.04 won't boot =\
[00:49] <twitchytoes> Anyways, brb.
[00:49] <uruk7> http://pastebin.com/raw/6YNDBpp5
[00:49] <k1l> twitchytoes: left shift pressing several times
[00:49] <wafflejock> dogarrhea: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsexy
[00:50] <twitchytoes> k1l, EFI boots too quick to catch it.  Just pulled the hide timer out.
[00:50] <twitchytoes> tpm.tis.force=1
[00:50] <twitchytoes> Right?
[00:50] <dogarrhea> o well. guess i won't be installing xchat
[00:50] <k1l> "tpm_tis.force=1"
[00:50] <wafflejock> uruk7: looks like persmission denied reading the mp4 ?
[00:50] <twitchytoes> Alright, brb
[00:51] <dogarrhea> error does not make sense: inux-generic-lts-wily: Depends: linux-image-generic-lts-wily (= <IP_ADDRESS>.27) but <IP_ADDRESS>.27 is installed                         Depends: linux-headers-generic-lts-wily (= <IP_ADDRESS>.27) but <IP_ADDRESS>.24 is installed
[00:51] <k1l> dogarrhea: run "sudo apt update"
[00:52] <dogarrhea> did
[00:52] <dogarrhea> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[00:52] <wafflejock> uruk7: or rather writing it to the USB device not sure about file permissions when using gvfs and mtp on a device though
[00:52] <k1l> !chrome-repo | dogarrhea
[00:53] <twitchytoes> Tried tpm.tis.force=1, no go.
[00:53] <twitchytoes> Startup finished in 6.364s (firmware) + 16.565s (loader) + 1min 31.502s (kernel) + 827ms (userspace) = 1min 55.259s
 i can't change chmod in the microsdcard
[00:56] <twitchytoes> Is there any reason why 14.04 wouldn't boot on this board?
[00:56] <twitchytoes> Hangs on BGRT something, can't remember the whole thing
[00:56] <wafflejock> twitchytoes: lots of details on diagnosing various parts of startup with systemd here may be helpful http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/systemd-boot-process/ haven't used systemd myself yet much hands on so dunno details but the article seems to cover a lot of diagnostics
[00:56] <dogarrhea> still getting linux-generic-lts-wily: Depends: linux-image-generic-lts-wily (= <IP_ADDRESS>.27) but <IP_ADDRESS>.27 is installed                         Depends: linux-headers-generic-lts-wily (= <IP_ADDRESS>.27) but <IP_ADDRESS>.24 is installed
[00:57] <twitchytoes> wafflejock, Yeah, it's happened in 15.10 and now 16.04.  I know this chat isn't for 16.04 but the issue persists and 14.04 doesn't boot at all
[00:57] <wafflejock> uruk7: yeah depends in part I think on the filesystem on the device since the permissions are handled at the filesystem level I'm pretty sure, typically when mounting some location there's usually a way to specify what user to treat the files as if the filesystem doesn't supply that or to enable writing to the mounted location
[00:58] <k1l> twitchytoes: that mainboard seems to have issues since 2012 with efi etc.
[00:58] <twitchytoes> Hmm
[00:59] <twitchytoes> k1l, So what do I do about it?
[00:59] <k1l> !bug | twitchytoes
[00:59] <twitchytoes> Not sure what to report
 i can copy files from nautilus but not work in console
[01:00] <dogarrhea> what is this stupid lts wily error
[01:00] <k1l> file it against the linux-generic when booting the original kernel.
[01:00] <wafflejock> uruk7: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87667/getting-mtp-enabled-devices-to-work-with-ubuntu/308366#308366 hmm that's strange
[01:00] <k1l> dogarrhea: can you put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[01:00] <twitchytoes> k1l, And what about Ubuntu 14.04 not booting?
[01:00] <ddybing> quit
[01:00] <k1l> twitchytoes: dont know? what error do you see if you remove quiet and splash?
[01:00] <JTechSupport> having trouble with mom's computer.  I can't even put quotes on the web search for the error because the keyboard is set as Canadian.
[01:01] <twitchytoes> k1l, Haven't tried that.  Can't even boot the live, it hangs on something with BGRT in it
[01:01] <twitchytoes> k1l, I can try real quick
[01:01] <dogarrhea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431216/
[01:01] <JTechSupport> I get ReferenceError: HasFlashVersion is not definedundefinedundefined
[01:02] <twitchytoes> k1l, I'll go double check so I can be more helpful
[01:02] <k1l> dogarrhea: please show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:02] <JTechSupport> when I go to the firefox addon section, it has Flash blocked. When I go to the page for it, it says it's also blocked.
[01:02] <JTechSupport> Flash Player Plugin on Linux <IP_ADDRESS>4 to <IP_ADDRESS>9 (click-to-play) has been blocked for your protection.
[01:02] <JTechSupport> I uninstalled flash and reinstalled it. Why is it not up to date?
[01:03] <dogarrhea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431224/
[01:05] <live-usb-issues> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE on my Macbook Air (early 2015), and for some reason the live USB can't see the hard drive of the laptop, even if I partition it in advance. This isn't the only distro I've tried, either. This is also true in Fedora 23. Does anyone know a way to fix this?
[01:05] <JTechSupport> how do I update Flash?
[01:05] <wafflejock> JTechSupport: better off using Chrome if you really *need* flash player they keep it updated for you
[01:05] <JTechSupport> great.
[01:05] <JTechSupport> thanks. I guess I'll have to do that then.
[01:05] <k1l> dogarrhea: "apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic-lts-wily" in a pastebin please
[01:07] <wafflejock> JTechSupport: no prob, know it's not a super awesome answer to tell someone to switch browsers but keeping flash updated is a pain typically for end users and Adobe isn't putting much effort into continued support on Linux so your best best is to just use Chrome for now
[01:08] <dogarrhea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431246/
[01:08] <k1l> dogarrhea: sudo apt install linux-headers-generic-lts-wily
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: What did you use to partition it?
[01:09] <twitchytoes> k1l, I return with more useful information.  14.04.4 hangs on AMDGPU modesetting.
[01:09] <dogarrhea> same error as before: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  linux-headers-generic-lts-wily : Depends: linux-headers-4.2.0-34-generic but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:09] <dogarrhea> -f option does the same thing
[01:09] <k1l> twitchytoes: try "nomodeset" as booting parameter
[01:10] <k1l> dogarrhea: you ran "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[01:10] <dogarrhea> yes
[01:10] <live-usb-issues> SonikkuAmerica: I used the OS X Disk Utility, but that was only because I thought it might make installation easier. I really want to just nuke OS X entirely and install Ubuntu
[01:10] <twitchytoes> k1l, Say I get it booted and installed, what do I do to make AMDGPU work safely?
[01:10] <k1l> twitchytoes: install fglrx
[01:11] <twitchytoes> k1l, What about AMD's new hybrid driver?  Think it'd work?
[01:11] <dogarrhea> " Depends: linux-headers-4.2.0-34-generic but it is not going to be installed"
[01:11] <twitchytoes> k1l, http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Beta-Driver-for-Vulkan-Release-Notes.aspx
[01:11] <k1l> twitchytoes: dont know. if you want the greatest and latest you might need to do more research
[01:12] <twitchytoes> Mmk
[01:12] <twitchytoes> I guess we'll see what happens.
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: Can you run [ sudo parted -l ] and pastebin the output?
[01:13] <k1l> dogarrhea: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" in a pastebin if that has an output
[01:14] <dogarrhea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431280/
[01:14] <live-usb-issues> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431278/
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: ew.
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: This is perplexing
[01:15] <k1l> dogarrhea: hmm. still trying to find what is the issue here. please run "sudo apt install linux-headers-4.2.0-34-generic
[01:16] <live-usb-issues> SonikkuAmerica: The only way I can get the MacBook's drive to show up is by running "sudo lshw -C storage", which gets me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15431272/
[01:16] <dogarrhea> same error
[01:16] <dogarrhea> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  linux-generic-lts-wily : Depends: linux-headers-generic-lts-wily (= <IP_ADDRESS>.27) but <IP_ADDRESS>.24 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: Can you go back to OS X Disk Utility and drop a FAT32 partition on your disk, then come back to the Live image?
[01:18] <k1l> dogarrhea: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken
[01:18] <live-usb-issues> SonikkuAmerica: I already did, there's a FAT32 partition on it now
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> oh
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> live-usb-issues: Well, *I* don't really know what to tell you; maybe someone else does
[01:20] <live-usb-issues> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, that seems to be where I end up with everyone. Thanks for trying!
[01:20] <dogarrhea> it's still processing at "Unpacking linux-headers-4.2.0-34" for a while. i'll come back later
[01:21] <k1l> dogarrhea: ok, so its installing that stuff now
[01:26] <tonyt> if i just install nvidia-current will that be fine or do i have to install nvidias driver from their website too?
[01:27] <k1l> tonyt: nvidia-current is fine in most cases
[01:27] <tonyt> ok thanks
[01:50] <twitchytoes> k1l, Got it up and running, AMD's hybrid driver works without nomodeset and got OpenGL 4.5 now :D
[01:51] <twitchytoes> k1l, Thanks for your help
[01:51] <k1l> good to hear
[01:52] <twitchytoes> VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tonga PRO [Radeon R9 285/380] @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller **
[01:52] <twitchytoes> Working properly
[02:04] <gebbione> hi folks, i m planning to upgrade my system. I added a post here. Could you please let me know your thoughts on the CPU, mobo and memory? http://forums.tweaktown.com/what-should-i-buy-/62699-upgrade-compatibility-need-new-gpu.html#post504203
[02:04] <cfhowlett> gebbione, ask #hardware
[02:05] <gebbione> cfhowlett, i will though linux compatibility with GPU is one of the things i am also interested in too
[02:08] <bipul> Hi.
[02:14] <knight9fury> dsfsdf
[02:31] <n1cky> Hey, I use ubuntu in an lxc container
[02:31] <monster_> good morning/evening #ubuntu I just had someone accidently delete tty50 tty56 tty57 tty58 on an ubuntu 14.04 machine?
[02:31] <n1cky> does the ubuntu kernel have user namespaces?
[02:32] <monster_> anyone know if its possible to rebuild those?
[02:32] <n1cky> if you have lxc installed, type `lxc-checkconfig | grep "User namespaces"`
[02:48] <twitchytoes> Anyone here use i3wm with a compositor?
[02:53] <mekhami> twitchytoes: i know a great many people use compton with i3
[02:53] <twitchytoes> I used it myself but it seems to have issues with AMDGPU, so I was looking for an alternative.
[03:05] <nickchen> hi
[03:05] <nickchen> some people?
[03:24] <Archbuntu> whats *buntu doing today?
[03:26] <tifoled> Hello Friends!
[03:26] <Archbuntu> hi
[03:26] <tifoled> How use FREENET over TOR?
[03:26] <Archbuntu> what do you guys use, weechat or irsi :)?
[03:27] <tifoled> HOW USE FREENET OVER TOR?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> tifoled: TOR is no longer permitted on freenode .
[03:28] <Archbuntu> why is that?
[03:28] <tifoled>  I set up a system to operate through Tor .
[03:29] <tifoled> And Freenet not work for me, but Firefox work
[03:30] <tifoled> I use polipo. Help please
[03:33] <tifoled> Bashing-om?
[03:33] <tifoled> Рщц ше,
[03:33] <tifoled> How it?
[03:33] <tifoled> бля палево
[03:36] <tungsten> help
[03:36] <tungsten> HELP
[03:36] <tungsten> quit
[03:36] <tungsten> exit
[03:37] <Bashing-om> tifoled: For discussion of TOR join #freenode and inquire there .
[03:38] <dax> for a start, freenet doesn't run over Tor :\
[03:40] <tifoled> And freenet?
[03:40] <tifoled> Tor chats banned Tor
[03:41] <dax> do you mean freenet (the anonymity system unrelated to Tor) or freenode (the IRC network you're on)?
[03:42] <tifoled> OS work by Tor net
[03:42] <tifoled> I enter everywhere bt Tor
[03:42] <Archbuntu> *buntu, irssi or weechat? vote below
[03:43] <tifoled> fuckit
[03:43] <dax> Archbuntu: we don't do polls in here, try both and see which you prefer
[03:43] <tifoled> FIREFOX => TOR => FREENET
[03:43] <tifoled> I want it
[03:44] <tifoled> How make?
[03:44] <dax> tifoled: 1) freenet and Tor are unrelated, and one does not run off another, 2) this is not Ubuntu-related, ask another support channel like #freenode or ##linux, 3) mind the language, thanks.
[03:44] <dreadkop_> hey guys. any way to get FINTEK F71889A to work? i'd like to run a script that emergency shuts down the system if a fan (aka my water pump) fails. Poorly all i get from sensors is Coretemperature. i ran sensors_detect. It detects some fintek chip but no readout :(
[03:45] <tonyt> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:45] <tonyt>  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.55-0ubuntu1)
[03:45] <tonyt> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:45] <tonyt> keep getting a borken package error. how can i fix it?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> !wine
[03:46] <Bashing-om> !info wine wily
[03:46] <Archbuntu> can someone remind me what does playonlinux do that wine doesn't?
[03:46] <dax> (wine1.7 is from the ~ubuntu-wine PPA)
[03:47] <Bashing-om> dax: :) thanks
[03:49] <IndianMonster> what is Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[03:50] <Bashing-om> tonyt: ^^ seems to me you have 2 options, 1) ppa-purge wine to what is in our repo, 2) talk to the PPA authors to get a fix .
[03:50] <dax> IndianMonster: https://askubuntu.com/questions/39852/how-to-remove-warnings-like-unknown-media-type
[03:52] <Bashing-om> Archbuntu: PlayOnLinux is a front-end for wine. It permits you to easily install Windows Games and software on Linux.
[03:53] <tonyt> no its the broekn package error. not wine
[03:53] <tonyt> thats the second time i got that error. doesnt happen with just wine
[03:55] <Bashing-om> tonyt: "  wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.55-0ubuntu1) " Not an ubuntu package .
[03:55] <tonyt> guess ill have to look it up on google
[03:55] <tonyt> i get the same error with wine1.6
[03:55] <tonyt> broejn package error
[03:56] <dreadkop_> is there any other tool besides lm-sensors to read out fan speeds?
[03:57] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Revert the PPA to wine1.6 and the dependency will be resolved . wine1.6 is in our repo and is supported .
[03:58] <ucw> hello
[04:06] <bray90820> Kinda off topic so how would I switch to line 13 if pwd on line 10 was /media/data
[04:06] <bray90820> http://pastebin.com/D0s81XLR
[04:07] <nick_of_thyme> How do I disable sudo completely and switch to su and pkexec root passwords, system wide?
[04:08] <dreadkop_> apt-get purge sudo ?
[04:09] <bink> hi, does anyone here know how to change their superuser account name?
[04:09] <bink> from the command line?
[04:12] <dreadkop_> root will be root ;)
[04:14] <fuzzles> im a newer user was wondering where i can get some concise tutorials on basic language and must know commands in the terminal
[04:17] <Bashing-om> !terminal ! fuzzles
[04:20] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r10735/unixcomm.html .
[04:20] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: And http://linuxcommand.org/ .
[04:21] <Guest15934> hello linux
[04:21] <Guest15934> i need help
[04:22] <fuzzles> the unixcomm url has some kind of error
[04:22] <sun_> sun
[04:22] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: checking .
[04:24] <fuzzles> ty though, since moving over ive been having a blast and wanna up my fun
[04:24] <rypervenche> fuzzles: I used the linuxcommand site for starting out myself.
[04:24] <rypervenche> fuzzles: Welcome to the world of Linux :)
[04:24] <fuzzles> ty and im on linuxcommand now
[04:25] <fuzzles> having no fun and still loving this over any version of windows i ever used
[04:25] <fuzzles> no fu*
[04:26] <Archbuntu> i feel like im missing something after fresh installing buntu on my ssd
[04:26] <Archbuntu> can you guys tell me the things you install after a fresh intall
[04:27] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/ I guess has been removed .
[04:29] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: Have you explored http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty ?
[04:30] <fuzzles> i am now ty
[04:32] <fuzzles> i orignially came from windows to zorin after someone suggested it but all the crap laid over the ubuntu base was giving me issues altering config files so i was ok i need to check up and went to the linux foundation site which wanted monies
[04:32] <nick_of_thyme> so removing sudo will not make things like synaptic inaccessible? it's automagically switched to root password?
[04:32] <fuzzles> i didnt want to pay so after i moved to the lastest lts ubuntu i was like lemme see the community
[04:33] <fuzzles> your already helping so much
[04:33] <nick_of_thyme> apt-get purge sudo wants to install kdesudo and sudo-ldap
[04:34] <nick_of_thyme> and it removes some other stuff
[04:34] <Bashing-om> fuzzles: Ubuntu is open source at it's best . Just my opinion .
[04:35] <fuzzles> mine too already and im only about a month in after having got a raspi and played with it as a media center
[04:36] <fuzzles> any good suggestions for high contrast terminals
[04:37] <chickenBullion> Has anyone experience with LVM's? Im trying to create a 40gb logical volume in my 1 volume group here https://www.pastery.net/pmcxwa/ . Thats how it would be done wouldnt it? Although i imagine theres a few steps afterwards to format it...
[04:50] <bink> hi can anyone here tell me how to change the superuser name on my system?
[04:53] <rypervenche> bink: You want to change the name of "root"?
[04:56] <chickenBullion> Where do people mount partitions in Ubuntu to use on a daily basis?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !mount | chickenBullion
[04:59] <Shirakawasuna> chickenBullion: it depends on what the partition is for
[05:00] <chickenBullion> Shirakawasuna: What are types?
[05:01] <chickenBullion> Shirakawasuna: this one is in my local LVM for access across dual-boots.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | chickenBullion start here
[05:03] <chickenBullion> i didnt have time to immediately read that suggestion if that at helps, i just decided to put it into my home directory to avoid any permission problems that could arise in the future until the data transfer finishes.
[05:10] <TrustInAllah> I will post a video of a series of lectures on the Hereafter on what happens to us after this life, I know you're all busy with your works and this might be irrelevant to your interests but this is  extremely important as death is a reality which none of us can escape, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6POzsLaKP4&list=PLyIDfFGMrsvtUiDND0bzdKagGyejGWYJU
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> TrustInAllah: not here please
[05:13] <significance> Is there an up to date guide on dual booting with OSX?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | significance
[05:18] <significance> Besides Ubuntu support, is there any other benefit to LTS? Is it intrinsically more stable?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> significance: longer support
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !lts | significance
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> significance: in most cases lts is a great choice
[05:19] <significance> lotuspsychje: awesome - thanks!
[05:21] <significance> !netboot
[05:25] <Stamper__> hey guys
[05:31] <Stamper__> o.o
[05:39] <Abhijit> hi
[05:39] <Abhijit> do i need to change any UEFI setting while only doing live mode testing ?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: uefi usb as first boot
[05:41] <Abhijit> yes. thats for changing boot order.
[05:42] <bleu> Is there a straight forward way of fixing the mouse focus issue on a new 14.04 install
[05:42] <Abhijit> i want to know if i need to disable uefi or something else with uefi other than that?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Abhijit: if usb loads into ubuntu, you dont have to change other things
[05:43] <Abhijit> ok
[05:47] <codepython777> In unity, I've a terminal icon - which when i click, it goes back to the terminal that was opened before. I want it to open a new terminal in a new workspace, how do i do this?
[05:48] <xangua> codepython777: tried the middle button?
[05:49] <codepython777> xangua: Thanks. If I click the right button, it gives me an option for a new terminal - I want that to be the default behavior
[05:59] <superguest> Is xfs supported out of the box in 15.10?
[05:59] <superguest> I tried mounting an xfs and I get: " exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: mount /dev/mapper/isw_cjaiafedbc_RAID5_s1v1p1 on /media/klf/DigitalTrove failed: Function not implemented"
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !raid | superguest can this help?
[06:00] <jushur> xangua: ctrl+shift+t = new tab, ctrl+alt+t = new terminal window
[06:02] <hilx> codepython777, u might edit gnome-terminal.desktop in /usr/share/applications and add -A to the command
[06:03] <codepython777> hilx: no such file there
[06:03] <superguest> lotuspsychje, can you be a lil more specific?
[06:04] <codepython777> hilx: oh, found the file
[06:05] <codepython777> hilx: Change this by appending " -A" ? TryExec=gnome-terminal Exec=gnome-terminal
[06:05] <hilx> yes
[06:06] <codepython777> trying
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> superguest: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS
[06:09] <jkhl> having trouble installing Ubuntu, seems to work ok but then I get ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> superguest: didnt test myself, but you get all those dependecies?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: singleboot or dualboot?
[06:09] <jkhl> singleboot
[06:09] <jkhl> not sure if this computer is compatible or not
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: disbaled secureboot and fastboot?
[06:10] <jkhl> pretty sure I did, I'll double check
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: they both must be disabled (if its un uefi machine)
[06:10] <jkhl> Acer Aspire XC600 btw
[06:11] <codepython777> hilx: my terminal is gone!
[06:11] <jkhl> secure boot disabled, yes
[06:11] <hilx> gone?
[06:11] <jkhl> fast boot disabled, yes
[06:12] <hilx> codepython777, that's odd. Well, undo the change then
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: then ubuntu setup should detect your hd
[06:12] <jkhl> although it still says the first boot device is 'UEFI: WDC WD20EZRX-22D8PB0'
[06:12] <jkhl> lotuspsychje: it does, and the install seems to complete okay, but then when it reboots I get that error
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: then secureboot or fastboot arent set correctly off
[06:13] <jkhl> in the bios setup they are set to disabled
[06:13] <jkhl> anything else I can do?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: must be some other option named differently perhaps uefi/legacy
[06:14] <jkhl> ok checking
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: ive seen some boxe with a weird intel bios option too to block install of a new Os
[06:14] <jkhl> ACPI Suspend Mode is set to S3(STR), I can change it to S1(POS), no idea what it is
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: you can ask assistance at ##hardware also if your unsure
[06:15] <jkhl> Restore on AC Power Loss set to Last State
[06:15] <jkhl> ok
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: no dont touch options you dont know :p
[06:15] <jkhl> ok :p
[06:15] <personal0> checking for libmysqlclient... configure: error: Unable to find mySQL
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> jkhl: pretty sure its uefi/legacy related
[06:15] <jkhl> ok
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | personal0
[06:17] <hilx> codepython777, gnomer-terminal --window   might work
[06:21] <personal0> checking for libmysqlclient... configure: error: Unable to find mySQL
[06:22] <personal0> apt-get install libmysqlclient18
[06:22] <personal0> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[06:22] <personal0> Generazione albero delle dipendenze
[06:22] <personal0> Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
[06:22] <personal0> libmysqlclient18 è già alla versione più recente.
[06:22] <personal0> 0 aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 29 non aggiornati.
[06:22] <jkhl> oh man, using the bios just brings back happy memories of installing DOS games
[06:22] <jkhl> bios setup*
[06:23] <jkhl> soundblaster test
[06:23] <jkhl> hehe
[06:24] <jkhl> Z demo disk and duke nukem
[06:24] <jkhl> 133MHz
[06:27] <jkhl> bios version P11-A1 btw
[06:33] <rk> how do i remove maximize/minimize buttons from gnome shell? i tried using tweak tool, but it doesn't work.
[06:34] <jkhl> no joy
[06:35] <easyOnMe> what could be the reason why I am getting this message: failed to download repo information
[06:36] <rk> easyOnMe: no network?
[06:36] <easyOnMe> since yesterday I got this red triangle with an exclamation mark at the center of it appearing on the top right of my desktop
[06:36] <easyOnMe> rk: meaning?
[06:37] <easyOnMe> I am not able to connect to the server I am trying to connect to
[06:37] <chickenBullion> So ISIS recruits on here? cool.
[06:37] <rk> easyOnMe: your computer might not be connected to the internet.
[06:38] <easyOnMe> rk: how is that even be possible we are able to talk now
[06:39] <rk> easyOnMe: if you're not on your computer :)
[06:39] <easyOnMe> rk: seriously
[06:39] <easyOnMe> how can I correct this
[06:39] <easyOnMe> I am not able to update
[06:39] <easyOnMe> by ubuntu
[06:40] <rk> easyOnMe: removing newly added repos might help.
[06:40] <easyOnMe> rk: like how any online resources
[06:40] <easyOnMe> never mind I will google it
[06:40] <easyOnMe> brb
[06:51] <easyOnMe> ok I found the error
[06:51] <easyOnMe> its the repo for google chrome
[06:51] <easyOnMe> how do I delete it
[06:51] <easyOnMe> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[06:51] <easyOnMe> I also what to uninstall google chrome
[06:52] <baizon> easyOnMe: https://askubuntu.com/questions/43345/how-to-remove-a-repository
[06:52] <easyOnMe> baizon: thanks
[06:52] <easyOnMe> what about uninstall Google Chrome
[06:53] <xangua> easyOnMe: are you using a 32 bit OS?
[06:53] <easyOnMe> tried uninstalling it using the
[06:53] <easyOnMe> xangua: yup
[06:53] <easyOnMe> 32 bit
[06:53] <dax> !chrome-repo
[06:53] <easyOnMe> ubuntu 14.04
[06:53] <dax> oh, you're 32-bit
[06:53] <dax> no more 32-bit chrome
[06:53] <easyOnMe> dax: yup
[06:53] <easyOnMe> I wanted to uninstall it how shall I go about doing it
[06:53] <xangua> Cargando… (http://m.webupd8.org/2016/03/fix-failed-to-fetch-google-chrome_3.html?m=1) easyOnMe
[06:54] <dax> easyOnMe: remove the google-chrome package in your usual package manager?
[06:54] <easyOnMe> xangua: no I want to uninstall google chrome and only use chromium
[06:54] <xangua> Then do it?
[06:54] <dax> !ppa-purge
[06:54] <dax> probably useful too afterwards ^
[06:54] <easyOnMe> dax: I tried to look for it in the ubuntu software center but it does not show up there
[06:54] <dax> although hrm, i wonder if it works on non-PPAs
[06:55] <xangua> Be aware that you won't be able to watch Netflix with chromium and other proprietary things
[07:09] <V7> Hello :) !
[07:26] <Wekfi> java -jar name.jar  no work
[07:26] <Wekfi> Lubuntu
[07:27] <baizon> Wekfi: install openjdk jre then?
[07:27] <Wekfi> i have iced tea
[07:28] <baizon> Wekfi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
[07:28] <baizon> Wekfi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_virtual_machine#Execution_environment
[07:29] <Wekfi> what?
[07:37] <vioriokpa> quit
[07:38] <vioriokpa> exit
[07:40] <MSponge> good morns.
[07:56] <MSponge> Maybe I'm out of Ram ?
[08:03] <bunker> hii\
[08:04] <bunker> i have a problem
[08:04] <jatt> !ask
[08:05] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth_: Was it the Ubuntu 14.04 minimal image you wanted to have a UEFI bootable image of?
[08:06] <MSponge> What tests can I do on an AMD laptop (just booting off the 12.04 dvd), that accurately test the graphic card and/or CPU ?
[08:07] <bunker> my wifi doesnt work, its says its disabled by hardware switch and my laptop doesn't have any. I have even changed the  distro and problem still exists. BTW my wifi works pretty good in windows
[08:08] <MSponge> bunker, whhat is your laptop, spec ?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> bunker: Does your keyboard have a key that (possibly when pressed along with FN) enables/disables wifi?
[08:09] <bunker> ASUS X200CA
[08:09] <bunker> i m using linux since past two years and never came across this problem
[08:09] <bunker> @Jordan_U already tried
[08:10] <Jordan_U> bunker: Is that a yes?
[08:10] <bunker> yes
[08:11] <bunker> even my external wifi adapter doesn't  works
[08:15]  * MSponge notes that @bunker's laptop is a celeron :(
[08:16] <bunker> its intel i3
[08:16] <MSponge> oh right, I see I see .
[08:27] <marikamartina> hello
[08:30] <jkhl> got it booting!
[08:30] <jkhl> :D
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth_: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/tmp/ubuntu_14.04_minimal_uefi_bios_hybrid.iso Should be able to be dd'd to a USB drive or burned to a CD and bootable via either BIOS or UEFI.
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth_: It's so easy to do (if you have a recent enough grub installed) that it's silly. "sudo mount -o loop mini.iso /mnt/ && grub-mkrescue -o ubuntu_14.04_minimal_uefi_bios_hybrid.iso /mnt/" .
[08:38] <sskniranjan> hello kindly help me in private chat regarding the ubuntu software centre
[08:38] <ubik123> Helo, I've got a question: Is it possible to run ubuntu-sdk on Debian Jessie?
[08:38] <ubik123> I don't want to install Ubuntu on my private computer
[08:39] <cfhowlett> ubik123, pretty sure debian has its own sdk.  use that
[08:39] <ubik123> Well, there is qt creator
[08:39] <cfhowlett> ubik123,  or use a virtual machine
[08:40] <ubik123> Is that enough for developing Ubuntu Phone apps?
[08:40] <ubik123> I want to program a seafile client
[08:43] <ubik123> hmm
[08:43] <ubik123> there is no ubuntu-sdk for debian :-(
[08:44] <sskniranjan> kindly hanyone help me regarding the updating cache quering software source in software centre
[08:48] <ikonia> updating cache queries ?
[08:50] <sskniranjan> ikonia: yup
[08:51] <sskniranjan> its showing updating cache
[08:51] <sskniranjan> quering software sources
[08:51] <ikonia> what's showing updating cache ?
[08:51] <ikonia> I'm not understanding what you're actually asking
[08:51] <sskniranjan> ikonia: i'll pm you
[08:51] <ikonia> you don't need to
[08:51] <sskniranjan> okay
[08:51] <ikonia> just say in the channel, and use a pastebin if it's a big paste
[08:52] <sskniranjan> in the progress tab of softwarecentre thereis this process going on endlessly
[08:52] <johnnny22-afk> when running mpv, should compiz be used ? is compiz necessary ?
[08:53] <ikonia> sskniranjan: what version of ubuntu
[08:54] <ikonia> sskniranjan: I've just asked you not to pm me - please talk in the channel
[08:54] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is this
[08:54] <sskniranjan> ikonia: LTS 14.04
[08:54] <ikonia> so it's still supported, so the repos should still be there
[08:54] <ikonia> sskniranjan: what happens if you close and re-open software center
[08:55] <sskniranjan> ikonia: then it normalises then again if i want to install some software it again comes back
[08:55] <ikonia> sskniranjan: if you open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update" what happens ?
[08:55] <sskniranjan> ikonia: i haven't tried that...lemme check
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !apt-lock
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[08:56] <sskniranjan> ikonia: also for any other software also if i wish to install there is only use this source option instead of install option
[08:57] <ikonia> sskniranjan: please run the command I asked for
[08:57] <sskniranjan> okay tell me the command to install unity twek tool
[08:57] <ikonia> no
[08:57] <ikonia> run the command I told you to do
[08:57] <ikonia> and feedback what it says
[08:58] <sskniranjan> i'll jus paste it in the terminal
[08:58] <ikonia> paste what ?
[08:58] <ikonia> sskniranjan: if you are pasting a big paste - use a pastebin, not the chat client
[08:59] <sskniranjan> ikonia: its updating something and some long list is going on
[08:59] <ikonia> as it should
[08:59] <sskniranjan> ikonia: i was about to ask you whats a pastebin
[08:59] <ikonia> pastebin.ubuntu.com
[08:59] <ikonia> use it to share long pastes
[09:00] <sskniranjan> okay i'll try to send whats going on
[09:01] <sskniranjan> ikonia: btw whats problem with pm...i wont be able to recover the method later for my references
[09:01] <ikonia> it's better to help in channel so nothing is hidden and others can see and offer advice
[09:01] <sskniranjan> if i chat in the channel
[09:02] <sskniranjan> oh..okay thanks
[09:02] <cfhowlett> sskniranjan, all channel convo's are publicly logged and you should be able to enable logging to your local computer as well
[09:02] <sskniranjan> cfhowlett: how to do that
[09:02] <cfhowlett> sskniranjan, what irc client are you on?
[09:05] <sskniranjan> cfhowlett: am in thunderbird
[09:05] <sskniranjan> ikonia: i've pated it in pastebin just have a look
[09:05] <ikonia> where ?
[09:05] <ikonia> share the link
[09:06] <sskniranjan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15434798/
[09:06] <sskniranjan> is that enough
[09:06] <sskniranjan> ?
[09:06] <ikonia> so that looks good apart from the ppa time out
[09:06] <ikonia> now open software center
[09:07] <sskniranjan> okay
[09:07] <sskniranjan> ikonia: should i close the terminal
[09:07] <ikonia> doesn't matter
[09:09] <DavidFromBE> hello, i'm running ubuntu 15.10 on a 32gb usb 3 stick, but it is painfully slo. is there anything to check to make sure it is running at usb 3 speed or any optimization i could do ?
[09:09] <ikonia> it will be slow running from usb
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> DavidFromBE: usb will be always the bottleneck
[09:11] <DavidFromBE> lotuspsychje: i know, but is there anything i could configure to limit io to the stick ?
[09:11] <ikonia> why would you limit the io
[09:11] <ikonia> it would make it slower
[09:11] <ikonia> running off a usb stick is just slow/bad, thats the reality
[09:11] <DavidFromBE> i read about enabling ext2 instead of ext4 for example
[09:11] <ikonia> it won't matter
[09:11] <DavidFromBE> disabling swap
[09:11] <ikonia> it won't matter
[09:12] <sskniranjan> ikonia: iam trying to install the screenlet software...am still seeing the 'use this source' button instead of install button
[09:12] <igor__> Hello, I am trying to configure ceph cluster for the first time. I've configured everything: hosts, network, ntp, passwordless ssh login. Installed ceph on one main host, than from that host, used ceph-deploy to install it on other hosts. Then installed mons on each and zapped and allocated osds, but ceph status shows health_warning, even after reboots and several days passed. Also, cluster shows 0 bytes total and none of the osds got up.
[09:12] <ikonia> sskniranjan: has the updating cache problem gone
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> igor__: maybe the #ceph guys know?
[09:14] <sskniranjan> ikonia: yes it has gone...thank you but there is this enabling component of the distribution waiting and updating cache waitin are lined up together
[09:14] <igor__> lotuspsychje, sorry, I clicked on ubuntu by accident and didn't notice it, It's just the ceph channel is right next to it in my favorites.
[09:15] <ikonia> sskniranjan: I'm not sure what you are saying, you may want to consider taking and sharing a screenshot
[09:15] <sskniranjan> yes can share a screen shot via the same site?
[09:15] <ikonia> no
[09:15] <pwca> apparently you can override bitrates which I did and it now looks much better
[09:15] <ikonia> you'd need an image bin
[09:15] <pwca> no thanks to you, ikonia.
[09:16] <sskniranjan> ikonia: imagebin?
[09:16] <sskniranjan> its link please
[09:16] <ikonia> pwca: ?
[09:16] <ikonia> pwca: no idea what you are talking about, I've not spoken to you
[09:16] <ikonia> !imagebin | sskniranjan
[09:17] <pwca> ikonia: I am painfully aware you have not.
[09:17] <ikonia> ?
[09:17] <ikonia> I've no idea why you are trying to engage me for something I've not spoken to you about
[09:32] <drsoos> hello, how do i customize gnome-flashback?
[10:35] <Guest79926> Hello.
[10:38] <Guest79926> Is this the right channel to ask about bash scripting?
[10:39] <ikonia> no
[10:39] <ikonia> thats #bash
[10:39] <Guest79926> Thanks ikonia
[10:42] <daslicht> how to fix this error please: http://pastebin.com/cFPQA7YF
[10:43] <agata> hello
[10:43] <ikonia> daslicht: set LC_AL
[10:43] <ikonia> ALL
[10:43] <netpheak> Hi, guys!
[10:44] <daslicht> @ikonia that doesnt solve the issue
[10:44] <daslicht> still get that error
[10:44] <ikonia> set language too then
[10:45] <daslicht> still get perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:45] <daslicht> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Locales_unter_Ubuntu_konfigurieren
[10:45] <ikonia> it's falling back as you don't have the locale you have it set to installed
[10:45] <daslicht> already tried like this
[10:45] <daslicht> what else is missing please?
[10:45] <ikonia> not missing - wrong
[10:45] <ikonia> it's falling back as it's trying to use a locale that your machine doesn't support
[10:45] <daslicht> so what do I need to fix this plesae?
[10:46] <ikonia> set it to a supported locale that you have installed
[10:46] <daslicht> etc/default/locale contains -> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[10:46] <netpheak> Anyone know of an eta of Ubuntu Snappy support of Raspberry Pi 3?
[10:47] <ikonia> netpheak: should support it
[10:47] <ikonia> daslicht: do you have a perl pack that can support that ?
[10:47] <daslicht> i dont know
[10:51] <daslicht> ok fixed !
[10:51] <daslicht> I aaded lcall to /etc/default/locale
[10:52] <daslicht> i am trying to install this here : http://savonet.sourceforge.net/download.html
[10:53] <ikonia> it's already packaged for you
[10:53] <ikonia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=liquidsoap
[10:53] <daslicht> https://github.com/savonet/liquidsoap-full/issues/19
[10:53] <ikonia> its in the universe repo
[10:53] <daslicht> i want the latest version
[10:53] <ikonia> just enable the universe repo and install it
[10:54] <daslicht> is it up to date ?
[10:54] <ikonia> you've not even looked
[10:54] <ikonia> look - don't ask me to look for you
[10:54] <daslicht> I am sure that the dev version is more uptodate
[10:54] <ikonia> thats because it's "development"
[10:54] <ikonia> use an official release
[10:54] <ikonia> use the packages ubuntu provide for you
[10:55] <ikonia> don't chase version numbers
[10:55] <daslicht> official dont mean that they are free of bugs
[10:55] <daslicht> last time the cue sheet support was buggy
[10:55] <ikonia> ok - no point discussing this any more then
[10:55] <popey> the last release of liquidsoap was 3 years ago
[10:55] <daslicht> so its not updated ?
[10:55] <popey> so hardly our fault if we are behind
[10:55] <daslicht> i last checked it 2014 and it was broklen
[10:55] <popey> given upstream dont release often
[10:56] <daslicht> the last release of liquidsoap was 3 years ago , the last change in the dev brange is 2 month ago
[10:56] <popey> so ask the developers to make a release
[10:56] <daslicht> i dont care about an release :) I just want to install the latest dev
[10:56] <daslicht> as mentioned above
[10:56] <daslicht> ikonia wanted me to install the ubuntu pack
[10:56] <popey> switch to arch if you don't care then
[10:57] <daslicht> what is that ?
[10:57] <popey> you can get bleeding edge untested crack over there I hear
[10:57] <daslicht> why not just install it from git
[10:57] <ikonia> or ask the developers how to install their development builds
[10:58] <ikonia> the developers can support their install process and dev builds
[10:58] <daslicht> do you have a clue why i get that error ? https://github.com/savonet/liquidsoap-full/issues/19 ?
[10:58] <daslicht> ok
[10:58] <daslicht> ltes wait then untill i get a response
[10:58] <daslicht> thank you
[10:59] <suh_dude_> Hi!
[10:59] <suh_dude_> Why isn't Popcorntime in your repos?
[10:59] <ambraemiele> ciao
[10:59] <popey> suh_dude_: it's tricky given it gets taken down and re-relesased by different devs each year
[10:59] <ambraemiele> !list
[11:00] <ikonia> popey: is it really still that much of a moving target, how frustrating
[11:00] <popey> yes
[11:00] <popey> there were two versions last I looked
[11:00] <suh_dude_> Hmmm
[11:00] <ambraemiele> hi
[11:01] <suh_dude_> Has it ever been in your repos?
[11:01] <suh_dude_> But I think you should allow it. It is Free Software right?
[11:01] <suh_dude_> Even if it's illegal, it still meets the criteria.
[11:01] <ikonia> good god
[11:02] <ikonia> "even if it's illega"
[11:02] <ikonia> please - think about what you are saying
[11:02] <thinhlxps03690> hi
[11:03] <popey> suh_dude_: as i said, it's amoving target
[11:03] <popey> suh_dude_: they need to do a stable release, and ideally push that into debian then we get it and other flavours / derivatives benefit too
[11:03] <thinhlxps03690> client quit
[11:03] <thinhlxps03690> has quit
[11:05] <suh_dude_> Ah
[11:05] <xnldiwgsow> Jsj
[11:09] <Vohveli> my system just told me for the first time that I can upgrade (from 13.10 to 15.10) but everything hanged somewhere around 70% of the progress bar
[11:09] <Vohveli> now when I boot, it says "Ubuntu 15.10", but I only get a text login screen instead of the usual screen where I can choose the desktop environment
[11:10] <Vohveli> how should I proceed? can I somehow finish/fix the upgrade or should I do a clean install?
[11:10] <EriC^^> Vohveli: clean install would be best
[11:10] <Vohveli> okay, can I do this from within the current installation or do I need a live device?
[11:11] <EriC^^> do you have your stuff backed up?
[11:11] <ambraemiele> hi
[11:11] <Vohveli> everything's backed up, yes
[11:12] <EriC^^> Vohveli: well unless you have a partition that you can spare and put the iso on to boot from grub you'd have to use a live usb
[11:13] <Vohveli> okay, I'll try a live usb then
[11:13] <EriC^^> you can save the list of installed programs easily and have them reinstalled
[11:14] <benzel__> How do I destroy an application when it's completely frozen? I trid "pkill Intellij" but it does nothing.
[11:14] <EriC^^> benzel__: try xkill and click on it
[11:14] <popey> benzel__: alt+f2, xkill
[11:14] <popey> left click kills, right click cancels
[11:15] <benzel__> muy bien! Thanks
[11:23] <n0rz> hi
[11:25] <r00ter> hi
[11:26] <r00ter> n0rz
[11:28] <r00ter> do i need any rootkit detector for ubuntu ?
[11:30] <hadouken___> exit
[11:32] <r00ter> exit
[11:49] <Vohveli> well, I have a 14.04 LTS live USB now but it doesn't seem to boot
[11:50] <Vohveli> when I do a boot override from BIOS, the screen just goes black for a couple of seconds and then returns to BIOS
[11:50] <Vohveli> which seems strange since I had no trouble booting 13.10 live USB
[11:50] <ikonia> not strange if the media is bad
[11:50] <ikonia> fact that it's going back to the bios suggests there is nothing to boot
[11:51] <Vohveli> bad as in the device is broken or I did the live USB incorrectly?
[11:52] <ikonia> either/both
[11:52] <Vohveli> the exact way I used was: dd if=ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb1
[11:53] <ikonia> so thats putting it onto a partition, rather than the device
[11:53] <bekks> rendering the device unbootable.
[11:53] <Vohveli> oh, okay
[11:54] <Vohveli> I just followed some instructions I found
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !usb | Vohveli
[11:58] <Vohveli> thanks, I'll try that instead
[12:21] <serses> i can't get my Atheros Wireless card to work :(
[12:27] <Fodd> Alright lads, just a quick one. I've downloaded PHP Storm and it requires Java 1.8.. I'm very very new to ubuntu, how would i upgrade from 1.7
[12:27] <Fodd> Unsupported Java Version: Cannot start under Java 1.7.0_80-b15: Java 1.8 or later is required. <-- thats the error code.
[12:28] <ikonia> ubuntu ships supported versions of java
[12:28] <ikonia> if it's not in the repos for the version you're using, you'd have to pull it from an external place
[12:28] <Fodd> i've just ran "sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk"
[12:29] <Fodd> just downloading atm.
[12:29] <k1l_> so wait until its installed.
[12:29] <Fodd> just waiting :)
[12:30] <Fodd> Nope, still erroring out.
[12:30] <lhr> =.=
[12:31] <ikonia> how are you launching it ?
[12:31] <ikonia> (exactly)
[12:31] <Fodd> opening up terminal, navigating to the bin directory
[12:31] <Fodd> typing in ./phpstorm.sh
[12:31] <ikonia> Fodd: ok - look what that script is doing to actually launch it
[12:32] <ikonia> then look at the error
[12:32] <Fodd> okay, 1 second
[12:34] <Fodd> Sorry, that goes over my head. :(
[12:35] <ImJune> Has anyone here taken the LCSE exam from the linuxfoundation yet
[12:35] <ImJune> ?
[12:35] <ikonia> ImJune: not really anything to do with this channel, sorry
[12:35] <k1l_> ImJune: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic about that.
[12:35] <pero> Hi
[12:35] <ImJune> which channel would be a good 1 to ask about that?
[12:36] <pero> Anyone is experience with recovery?
[12:36] <ikonia> recovery of what ?
[12:36] <bekks> recovery of covered things? :)
[12:37] <_arktos_> recovery of what ?
[12:37] <Fodd> Pero: recovery of uncovered things?
[12:38] <ikonia> .......the jokes been done now
[12:38] <pero> Mistake of using 'clean' in windows and then did a partition of GPT.
[12:38] <ikonia> let him ask the question properly, clearly
[12:38] <pero> What can help me to reover it?
[12:38] <pero> recover
[12:39] <bekks> pero: what does "clean" in windows do?
[12:39] <bekks> pero: Can you state a clear issue please?
[12:39] <k1l_> !photorec | pero
[12:40] <pero> Removes any and all partition or volume formatting from the disk with focus. On master boot record (MBR) disks, only the MBR partitioning information and hidden sector information are overwritten. On GUID partition table (GPT) disks, the GPT partitioning information, including the Protective MBR, is overwritten; there is no hidden sector information.
[12:40] <ikonia> I suspect that data is gone
[12:41] <pero> Mistake of using 'clean' in windows and then did a partition of GPT. Now I want to recover it but it's "UnAllocated" and windows program can't see that
[12:41] <pero> But how canyou clean hdd so fast?
[12:41] <k1l_> pero: try photorec. but i think most data will be deleted and only some partial files might be still there.
[12:41] <pero> k1l_: photrec does not find my media
[12:41] <pero> my media disc*
[12:43] <pero> bekks: Mistake of using 'clean' in windows and then did a partition of GPT. Now I want to recover it but it's "UnAllocated" and windows program can't see that
[12:43] <pero> bekks: Removes any and all partition or volume formatting from the disk with focus. On master boot record (MBR) disks, only the MBR partitioning information and hidden sector information are overwritten. On GUID partition table (GPT) disks, the GPT partitioning information, including the Protective MBR, is overwritten; there is no hidden sector information.
[12:43] <ikonia> I suspect that data is gone
[12:44] <pero> How?
[12:44] <soee> how can i move all and only folders form dir X to dir U using cli ?
[12:44] <bekks> Deleting a filesys/partition in windeos overwrites the partition header only.
[12:44] <pero> soee: mv f/* g/*
[12:44] <ikonia> use find -type and -exec mv
[12:44] <ikonia> that won't work pero
[12:44] <pero> bekks: and you claim that my data is ?
[12:44] <soee> pero: this will move whole content
[12:44] <ikonia> that will move everything - he wants JUST directories
[12:45] <pero> ikonia: what did it wrote? what are the directories?
[12:45] <bekks> pero: I dont claim anything about your data.
[12:45] <ikonia> soee: use find -type and -exec
[12:45] <pero> soee: sorry
[12:45] <pero> soee: http://superuser.com/questions/487090/how-to-move-multiple-directories-but-exclude-files-in-current-path-with-similar
[12:46] <k1l_> pero: stop using that disk. get an image with ddrescue. use all programs on that image.  look for partitions with testdisk. look for data with photorec
[12:46] <lhr> how can i get ubuntu 10.04's program
[12:46] <pero> k1l_: it's an external hard disk
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> lhr  10.04 is dead
[12:46] <k1l_> pero: if that doesnt work. call a commercial recovery company. or say good bye to the data
[12:47] <pero> can you assit me k1l_ ?
[12:47] <k1l_> pero: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[12:48] <lhr> i think 10.04 is very beautyful
[12:48] <bekks> lhr: And it is dead, already.
[12:48] <k1l_> lhr: windows 3.1 was beautifull too. but its dead, too
[12:48] <pero> k1l_: what if the drive is unallocated?
[12:48] <lhr> =.=
[12:49] <k1l_> pero: that has nothing to do with testdisk or photorec
[12:49] <steven> does anyone have a tl;dr resource on deb packages and their differences for versions? I'd just like to know how and why u1404 packages differ from 1604
[12:49] <pero> k1l_: testdisk can't find the media disk in windows
[12:49] <ikonia> steven: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:49] <k1l_> pero: the ask in ##windows
[12:49] <pero> no no windows
[12:49] <bekks> steven: They are built for a different release, linked against different versions of packages.
[12:49] <steven> since I setup a xenial server and a few apps dont have xenial packages yet, so wonderinfg if i should just install a packager for an older version or wait
[12:49] <k1l_> pero: this is ubuntu support. we cant handle windows stuff in ehre
[12:49] <pero> k1l_: i amsaying it's ok
[12:50] <steven> bekks: so basically dependency versions?
[12:50] <bekks> steven: Yes.
[12:50] <k1l_> !guidelines | pero , its not ok with windows support in here.
[12:50] <pero> k1l_: ????????
[12:50] <steven> bekks are we talking < versions or <>?
[12:50] <pero> I am saying it's ok.
[12:50] <hetii> Hi
[12:50] <pero> We won't talk about windows.
[12:50] <bekks> steven: We are talking !=
[12:51] <pero> k1l_: !guidelines
[12:51] <pero> ops
[12:51] <pero> !guidelines | k1l_
[12:51]  * pero wonder
[12:52] <k1l_> pero: stop that! you said you use windows. we dont support windows in here. use ##windows as support channel for your issues with windows.
[12:52] <pero> k1l_: stop repeat it
[12:52] <steven> so would it be ok to just install 1510 packages and later swap out the sources and update it or should I simply wait (server is supposed to run long term, dont wanna fuck it up already cos I am unpatient ;) )
[12:52] <hetii> Could someone provide me a valid/tested configuration of PXE live booting system, I spend second day without success to boot up live system regarding ubuntu 12/14/15
[12:52] <k1l_> steven: dont mix packages from different releases.
[12:52] <k1l_> steven: what package are we talking baout exactly?
[12:52] <bekks> steven: Mixing packages WILL break your systems.
[12:52] <steven> yay :D
[12:53] <steven> and k1l_ atm just wanna setup gitlab and owncloud on the server but neither provides xenial packages just yet
[12:53] <ikonia> steven: tone down the language too
[12:53] <ikonia> there is no need for it and it's not welcome
[12:53] <ikonia> because it's not out yet
[12:53] <bekks> steven: Then dont use xenial, cause it isnt release yet.
[12:53] <bekks> *released
[12:53] <ikonia> apply logic - why would people be using  offering packages for an unreleased version
[12:53] <k1l_> steven: that is the issue with development releases. its release is in end of april. you have might to wait until that for 3rd party packages
[12:54] <steven> but it will be next month and it really is smarter to just install the RC / beta and update it to "stable" instead of installing 1404 and run a dist upgrade
[12:54] <ikonia> steven: it's really not smarter
[12:54] <pero> please ubuntu torrent link
[12:54] <bekks> steven: Using 14.04 is smarter.
[12:54] <steven> why is that?
[12:54] <ikonia> it's smarter to wait for the release and then do you work when the repos your need are released
[12:54] <bekks> steven: Because 16.04 isnt released yet.
[12:55] <k1l_> steven: you just proven why its not smart to run a development release as a user.
[12:55] <steven> thats really not a good enough reason, its stable
[12:55] <ikonia> it is a good enough reason
[12:55] <bekks> steven: Then why do you ask?
[12:55] <ikonia> as you're blocked currently
[12:55] <steven> and the lack of two packages are not a reason to install a 2yr old version and run a dist upgrade, usually ubuntus dist upgrades dont run smoothly
[12:55] <steven> not at all
[12:55] <ikonia> no - it's a reason to wait
[12:55] <steven> and because I dont really know how the packaging process works 0o
[12:55] <k1l_> steven: please stop
[12:55] <bekks> steven: 14.04 isnt two years old, ir constantly receives updates until 2019.
[12:56] <bekks> steven: So 14.04 is the current LTS release.
[12:56] <k1l_> steven: 16.04 is not released yet. any more 16.04 issue in #ubuntu+1 please
[12:57] <steven> and xenial will be the next tls, you guys relax. its not like its the first server I run and use. I am well aware of it not being released and I am well aware of the release process, and withint the next four weeks there wont be a major change or some breaking upgrade (well 99% it wont happen)
[12:57] <ikonia> we are relaxed
[12:57] <ikonia> and you don't appear to understand, hence why you are asking,
[12:57] <ikonia> thats why you are being given advice
[12:57] <bekks> steven: 16.04 isnt supported in here, as you have been told.
[12:58] <pero> ubuntu 14.04 is downloading slow
[12:58] <steven> I simply asked about the packaging process, not about how I should've not installed the beta cos its 4 weeks before the release, cos no dist upgrade ever worked smootly for me
[12:58] <steven> neither on server nor desktop
[12:58] <bekks> pero: then use a different mirror.
[12:58] <pero> i did
[12:58] <pero> I tried.
[12:58] <ikonia> steven: thats your problem then - it works for other people,
[12:58] <bekks> pero: there are even more mirrors.
[12:59] <steven> ok awesome, next time say you dont support xenial instead of acting like this ;) you shouldnt treat every user like a guy who has no experience what so ever
[12:59] <steven> I can deal with "no support" instead of "well dont use it then"
[12:59] <ikonia> steven: don't behave like a guy with no experience and then complain about the solid advice you're given
[13:00] <k1l_> steven: i said 16.04 support is only in #ubuntu+1 so i muted you here now. no need for your offences just because you dont get the answers you like.
[13:00] <MSponge> Oow tetchy times on #ubuntu :-)
[13:01] <pero> 56 kb /s
[13:01] <bekks> pero: So use another, faster mirror
[13:04] <TJ-> pero: possibly your local ISP connection, country network, or international links may have problems.
[13:04] <pero> :(
[13:04] <pero> now i have problem in internet, yesterday i broke my hdd
[13:06] <kjkjkjkjkjk> hi, I came in here yesterday because apparently my laptop has bad superblock
[13:07] <kjkjkjkjkjk> the live usb I use is tails, but there is apparently a default sudo password and I dont know it
[13:07] <k1l_> kjkjkjkjkjk: ask the tails guys what the setup on their isos is.
[13:08] <gogeta> kjkjkjkjkjk, its ubuntu
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> tails is based on debian, is what i read here
[13:09] <k1l_> gogeta: its not. its build on debian. so he is on the very wrong channel in here
[13:10] <gogeta> i see
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> kjkjkjkjkjk  you're in the wrong channel, it's not supported here
[13:13] <gogeta> kjkjkjkjkjk, 99% of your distros defult will be the distro name or just root as a pass
[13:13] <kjkjkjkjkjk> gogeta: so "root" is a password?
[13:14] <gogeta> kjkjkjkjkjk, it probly will be one of the 2 yes
[13:14] <ikonia> stop
[13:14] <ikonia> thi sis not a discussion point for this channel please
[13:14] <EriC^^> sometimes it's "toor" as a password
[13:15] <kjkjkjkjkjk> is this the channel to ask what command do I need for a portuguese keyboard?
[13:15] <ikonia> no
[13:15] <kjkjkjkjkjk> loadkeys -pt?
[13:15] <ikonia> this channel is only for ubuntu
[13:16] <k1l_> kjkjkjkjkjk: ask in ##linux for general linux support
[13:17] <kjkjkjkjkjk> kicked out
[13:17] <k1l_> kjkjkjkjkjk: that is no reason to make offtopic in here
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> kjkjkjkjkjk  you're in the wrong channel
[13:22] <freshmint> hey, anybody familiar with deja-dup amazon s3 backups?
[13:23] <ikonia> in what respect ?
[13:23] <freshmint> i always get backend connectoin errors and i cant understand why atm
[13:24] <freshmint> i followed this explenation: http://blog.domenech.org/2013/01/backing-up-ubuntu-using-deja-dup-backup-and-aws-s3.html
[13:24] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu, what client version, how are you authing
[13:24] <freshmint> ubuntu 14.04, the client is a plugin for deja-dup which is related to python-boto and python-cloudfiles packages
[13:25] <ikonia> how are you authing to aws
[13:25] <ikonia> are your security groups in aws configured correctly ?
[13:26] <freshmint> im authing with a key and secret key and created and IAM user for that. but to be honest i am pretty new to this
[13:26] <ikonia> is S3 covered by security groups ?
[13:27] <freshmint> i have no idea
[13:27] <ikonia> so you need to look into that
[13:27] <freshmint> okay ehm on the aws console?
[13:27] <ikonia> also need to look at the iam role and how the key is being passed in
[13:28] <freshmint> on my side or on aws s ide?
[13:28] <ikonia> both, the key is a handshake
[13:28] <Cool_> Hi experts
[13:28] <ikonia> and the iam roles are set in aws
[13:29] <Cool_> How can i upgrade ubuntu server from 14.04.1 to 14.04.3 LTS trusty without upgrade kernal. what is the command to  do it?
[13:29] <ikonia> you'd need to pin the kernel package
[13:29] <ikonia> but I'd not advise this unless you have a very specific reason and understand that reason
[13:30] <Cool_> ikonia: can you specify command exactly to upgrade with ubuntu server 14.04.3
[13:30] <kjkjkjkjkjk> im not trolling: if I cannot join into linux, where can I ask things about superblocks?
[13:30] <k1l_> Cool_: in general that is not a good idea since there are a lot of kernel issues.
[13:30] <ikonia> kjkjkjkjkjk: you are already in ##linux
[13:30] <mehedi> hello friends
[13:30] <mehedi> I am in a big trouble
[13:30] <mehedi> My desktop is merged with the home folder!!
[13:30] <k1l_> Cool_: what gives you "uname -a"?
[13:30] <bekks> mehedi: What does that mean?
[13:30] <Cool_> reason for maintaining stable  version in all ubuntu servers
[13:31] <mehedi> And I cannot find my home folder in My computer option
[13:31] <Browser> Hello. I have cloned a HD with Ubuntu and I have put the cloned HD into a new machine with different specs. Everything is working well except the screen, which has poor graphics. I have used a Live CD to check if the screen works well with Ubuntu and I can see everything perfect. Is there an easy way to fix the problem? I think it is loading the configuration for the display where the HD was cloned. Thanks.
[13:31] <ikonia> the lts kernel upgrades are the stable versions
[13:31] <mehedi> can anyone help me?
[13:31] <Cool_> kernal version is : Linux test-VM 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP
[13:31] <ikonia> Cool_: ok - so why do you not want to update that from the LTS repos
[13:32] <mehedi> is there any way to restore desktop and my computer to default settings??
[13:32] <ikonia> mehedi: what's the actual real issue ?
[13:32] <mehedi> the issue is desktop is merged with the home folder
[13:32] <Cool_> it is requirement
[13:32] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[13:33] <ikonia> Cool_: requirement of what/who and why
[13:33] <mehedi> I want to separate these two like it was as default
[13:33] <k1l_> Cool_: ok, updating to 14.04.5 will not increase the kernel version when you are just running the updates. you will stay on the 3.13 kernel stack.
[13:33] <k1l_> Cool_: but you need to update to the latest 3.13 kernel build. since there are some serious kernel security issues.
[13:33] <Cool_> K1l_ : whats the command
[13:33] <ikonia> Cool_: step back - you're going to create a problem
[13:34] <ikonia> Cool_: why do you not want to update the kernel package ?
[13:34] <Cool_> temporaily i put hold kernel..But, just want to upgrade 14.04.3 not 14.04.5
[13:34] <ikonia> Cool_: thats going to be quiet tricky
[13:34] <ikonia> you'd have to pin packages at a very specific version
[13:35] <k1l_> Cool_: 14.04.3 and 14.04.5 are just like "servicepacks" from windows. they are just the state of all updates to that point. just the .isos have a new kernel on new install
[13:35] <k1l_> Cool_: but if you have a 14.04 installed and update it, it will stay on the 3.13 kernel
[13:36] <Cool_> Thanks k1l_: i am already with 140.04.1, just want to upgrade with 14.04.3 as it is requirement to maintain same version
[13:36] <Cool_> it is urgent
[13:36] <ikonia> maintain the same version ?
[13:36] <gogeta> Cool_, you aruldy have it
[13:36] <Cool_> can u please tell command to upgrade it[from 14.04.1 to 14.04.3]
[13:36] <ikonia> Cool_: you'll need to give more specific info
[13:36] <ikonia> Cool_: you can't do it like that
[13:36] <k1l_> Cool_: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade".
[13:36] <ikonia> that will take it to the current 14.04.X release
[13:37] <k1l_> ikonia: he has a wrong idea of point releases
[13:37] <ikonia> k1l_: it would appear so, thats why I'd like to see more info
[13:37] <Cool_> i did that command in test vm, it upgraded to 14.04.4 not 14.04.3
[13:37] <Cool_> how can i do it for 14.04.3
[13:37] <ikonia> Cool_: lets step back
[13:37] <k1l_> Cool_: you have a wrong idea what 14.04.3 is.
[13:37] <ikonia> Cool_: WHY do you not want the kenrel from 14.04.4
[13:37] <gogeta> Cool_, you have a newer build
[13:38] <k1l_> Cool_: its just a timemark to show you got all updates to that date.
[13:38] <k1l_> Cool_: compare it to the "servicepacks" on windows.
[13:39] <Cool_> compare it to the "servicepacks" on windows? means...how?
[13:40] <ikonia> Cool_: why do you not want the kernel from 14.0.4
[13:40] <Cool_> i said, iam running currently 14.04.1
[13:40] <ikonia> yes
[13:40] <ikonia> why do you not want the kernel from <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:40] <Cool_> want to upgrade with 14.04.3.got it?
[13:40] <ikonia> 14.04.4
[13:40] <gogeta> Cool_, point relese is only the same installer iso with upgrades
[13:40] <ikonia> why do you not want 14.04.4
[13:40] <Cool_> not 14.04.4
[13:40] <ikonia> why
[13:41] <gogeta> Cool_, if you run any updates your no longer running 14.94.1
[13:41] <Cool_> gogeta_what you suggest..?
[13:41] <k1l_> Cool_: listen: the pointrelease (the .3 or .4 or .5) started as only new isos so that if someone installs a 14.04 he doesnt need to download 5GB of extra updates from back when 14.04 was released
[13:41] <gogeta> Cool_, Cool_ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:42] <k1l_> Cool_: so the "release" of 14.04.3 is only "i am a 14.04 and i have installed all updates since the 14.04 release"
[13:43]  * Scunizi thinks there's a sneeky troll in the house.
[13:43] <gogeta> Colti, or using the updates from the gui
[13:43] <Cool_> thanks k1l_what you suggest now?
[13:43] <ikonia> this is a pointless
[13:43] <k1l_> Cool_: stop!
[13:44] <k1l_> Cool_: so you want to stay on the 3.13 kernel and not use kernel 4.2 or others?
[13:44] <gogeta> Cool_, you aruldy had 14.03 if you ran updates
[13:44] <gogeta> have
[13:44] <Cool_> k1l_yes
[13:44] <gogeta> Cool_, ok
[13:44] <k1l_> Cool_: then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[13:44] <gogeta> Cool_, now where making sense
[13:44] <k1l_> Cool_: that will keep the 3.13 kernel but istall all updates.
[13:44] <gogeta> he whants a older kernel
[13:44] <chrisml> i'm trying to change hostname in /etc/hosts, currently it has <IP_ADDRESS> hostname hostname, i want to use sub.domain.com so do i replace both hostnames with that?
[13:45] <k1l_> Cool_: dont think about the 14.04.3 or 14.04.5. its not what you think it is.
[13:45] <Cool_> Ok k1l_: just to explain them..can you elobrate detail
[13:45] <Cool_> i m running your command now in test machine
[13:46] <k1l_> Cool_: i already have 3 times now
[13:46] <vervet> chrisml: you can just add it as an entry into that file, yes
[13:46] <vervet> if you want to completely change it, you can replace
[13:46] <k1l_> Cool_: i dont know how to explain it differently.
[13:46] <gogeta> Cool_, any reasion you whant the old kernel the 4x serise is better
[13:46] <ikonia> gogeta: no it's not
[13:46] <chrisml> vervet thanks, i mean do i do <IP_ADDRESS> sub.domain.com domain.com or both with sub.?
[13:46] <k1l_> gogeta: let him please. its ok to run the 3.13 kernel on 14.04
[13:46] <Cool_> k1l_can i have any URL for these details
[13:47] <ogra_> Cool_, the archive moves forward with updates and fixes ... constantly ... at times there are snapshots taken from it that are then called $release.1 ... $release.2 and so on, these are released as isos... if you upgrade you get whats in the archive, so are always on the latest
[13:48] <vervet> chrisml: np, you'll want the complete entry - sub.domain.com
[13:48] <chrisml> vervet ty
[13:48] <gogeta> Cool_, all you need to do to get your old kernel back
[13:49] <gogeta> Cool_, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-* linux-image-3.13.0-*
[13:49] <k1l_> Cool_: 14.04 was released in 2014. so if you install 14.04 in 2016 you need to load all updates since that time after the install. to make that easier ubuntu make the .X (pointreleases) that have all updates included already. so if you install a 14.04.3 you have all updates to the date when 14.04.3 was marked.
[13:49] <k1l_> gogeta: stop
[13:49] <k1l_> gogeta: you are just making it worse
[13:50] <Cool_> thanks all for your patience.....special thanks to k1l..sorry for trouble..just to make understand
[13:50] <k1l_> Cool_: so if you update any 14.04 today. every 14.04 will become a 14.04.5
[13:51] <Cool_> good thanks k1l_. i repeating how to pin kernel and do update..thats command
[13:51] <k1l_> Cool_: no stop.
[13:52] <k1l_> Cool_: dont pin the kernel. the kernel will stay on the 3.13 version. but you need the latest 3.13 kernel builds since they fix security issues.
[13:52] <k1l_> Cool_: run my command and you will NOT be updated to the 4.2 kernel. it still will be 3.13 kernel.
[13:54] <Cool_> command please k1l_
 Cool_: then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[13:54] <k1l_> Cool_: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[13:54] <gogeta> Cool_, or just lsb_release -a command
[13:54] <ogra_> (it was above ;) )
[13:54] <gogeta> Cool_, you will see you have a newer version
[13:55] <Cool_> ok k1l_thanks, hope this wont upgrade kernel 3.13 to 3.16 or any latest.right?
[13:55] <k1l_> gogeta: Cool_ but as i explained every 14.04 will become a 14.04.5 because that is just the state of "i have all updates"
[13:55] <k1l_> Cool_: yes. it will stay on 3.13
[13:56] <ogra_> Cool_, if you dont actively tell your system to install a new kernel you will always stay on the major version you had at install tme and get only (security) fixes for it
[13:56] <Cool_> thanks a lot for clearing my confusion
[13:57] <ogra_> (there are ways to use newer kernels in LTS releases if you actually want to, but you need to install a certain metapackage for this... manually)
[13:57] <Marqin> Will 16.04 have GCC6 ( going to be realesed in april, already seen it in toolchain ppa ) or again LTS will have old packages on release?
[13:57] <ikonia> no
[13:57] <gogeta> ogra_, 4.4 time hehe
[13:58] <gogeta> Marqin, 16.04 will be runnning 4.4 witch is a lts kernel as well
[13:58] <k1l_> Marqin: look at the freezes. april is way to late
[14:00] <ogra_> new GCC usually means a full archive rebuild that introduces new bugs and failures ... you definitely dont want to do that in the month you release :)
[14:00] <Marqin> gogeta: what does kernel have to do with gcc?
[14:00] <ogra_> the compiler for a release is usually introduced at the beginning of a development cycle ... not at the end ;)
[14:00] <ogra_> so you can catch all the compiler/compilation related bugs
[14:00] <gogeta> Marqin, oh the compiler yea probably the same
[14:01] <Marqin> and I will have to give people instructions on how to get gcc6 from ppas instead of "just use ubuntu LTS" :(
[14:02] <k1l_> Marqin: tell gcc to release their stuff prior to the freezes from ubuntu then :)
[14:02] <Marqin> ha-ha
[14:02] <gogeta> Marqin, lol
[14:02] <bekks> People using LTS wont use gcc from a PPA :P
[14:02] <Marqin> bekks: many people use LTS for their build farms
[14:03] <ikonia> yeah
[14:03] <ikonia> more so when it needs specific build options of binutils
[14:03] <bekks> Marqin: Yeah, and official packages, no PPA.
[14:03] <gogeta> Marqin, yess but they use whats suported
[14:03] <mintux> i setup ssh certificate key but it want password again http://codepad.org/9YNjE0qw
[14:03] <ikonia> and they don't use gcc PPA
[14:03] <Marqin> i use llvm ppa :p
[14:03] <ikonia> so ?
[14:04] <gogeta> Marqin, and i run arch but kinds not the point
[14:04] <ikonia> mintux: not setup correctly, and I advise you not to run ispconfig
[14:04] <Marqin> point is that you cannot use gcc6 because many people won't use it because "it's not in LTS"
[14:04] <ikonia> Marqin: so ?
[14:05] <ogra_> Marqin, it will likely be in universe by release ... but not be default
[14:05] <Marqin> hm, is there some chance that there will be official gcc-6 package? not as default gcc, but you can always use update-alternatives
[14:05] <mintux>  ikonia:  but i did same thing i have did and worked but now it doesn't work. and for ispconfig it's on local vm and it's ok
[14:05] <Bookman900> Guys, I've got a serious problem with 4.4.0-14-generic and radeon r600 graphics (on 16.04),and when my laptop uses AC power, it's okay. When i unplug, I hit a freeze, and video seems to be broken down
[14:05] <ikonia> doubtful
[14:05] <ikonia> due to the binutils and a few other changes needed
[14:05] <ikonia> Marqin: it's not just gcc that needs updating to use gcc 6
[14:05] <bekks> Marqin: I guess you have to wait for 18.04 then.
[14:05] <ikonia> so it's doubtful the other updates needed will get to an LTS
[14:05] <mintux> ikonia: first ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mkdir -p .ssh
[14:05] <ikonia> mintux: nothing to do with what I said
[14:05] <Marqin> ikonia: only 1364 packages - http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20160226-gcc6-xenial.html
[14:06] <ikonia> Marqin: what ?
[14:06] <Marqin> "Package failed to build" - 1364 :D
[14:06] <ikonia> it's more than the packages it builds
[14:06] <mintux> ikonia: i don't get what are u trying to say . not setup correctly?
[14:06] <llutz> mintux: you don#t use the .pub key
[14:07] <ikonia> mintux: it's not setup correctly, and I advise you not to use ispconfig
[14:07] <k1l_> Bookman900: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 issues
[14:07] <Marqin> ogra_: seem your are right - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/gcc-6-base
[14:07] <Marqin> that's enough for me
[14:08] <Bookman900> k1l_: thx
[14:08] <gogeta> Marqin, so it will be in :)
[14:08] <mintux> llutz: you mean here? ssh -i .ssh/myserver <IP_ADDRESS> -v -l ispconfig  shouldn't use .pub ?
[14:09] <llutz> mintux: man ssh (about -i "identity file")
[14:11] <mintux> llutz: and i read so i put .pub key on server inside .ssh/authorized_keys with this command: cat .ssh/myserver.pub | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys'     and i use ssh -i .ssh/myserver <IP_ADDRESS> -v -l ispconfig   private key but it prompt password again and which section that i did is not correct ?
[14:12] <llutz> mintux: in your paste, you used -i myserver.punb
[14:12] <llutz> mintux: in your paste, you used -i myserver.pub
[14:12] <mintux> now i try new
[14:13] <mintux> i found something in log
[14:13] <mintux> Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for file /usr/local/ispconfig/.ssh/authorized_keys
[14:13] <ikonia> you should not be doing this
[14:13] <ikonia> and you should not be using ispconfig - you are going to be compromised with this approach
[14:14] <llutz> mintux: and to spread ssh-keys, use ssh-copy-id
[14:15] <mintux>  ikonia: i would like to develop something on ispconfig then i do this on my local virtualbox and mount it as partition on my ssystem
[14:15] <ikonia> mintux: very bad idea
[14:15] <mintux> ikonia: what is your idea?
[14:16] <ikonia> not to use ispconfig
[14:16] <mintux> ikonia: and what happened if i did?
[14:16] <ikonia> possibility of compromise and a broken system
[14:16] <ikonia> as I said a few lines up
[14:16] <bekks> mintux: you cant mount your vm as a partition.
[14:17] <mintux> bekks: i don't want to mount my vm i mount a directory of ispconfig in my vm to my system and then works on codes
[14:17] <ikonia> even worse idea
[14:17] <bekks> mintux: doesnt sound more sane.
[14:18] <mintux> ikonia: i don't think so . now i can do it. just only should enter password and if i did then i can work on it and i don't get why its worse idea . it works
[14:18] <gogeta> bekks, acully there is a way to use a real system in a vm
[14:19] <ikonia> mintux: carry on then - sounds like a terrible idea and risk to me
[14:19] <bekks> gogeta: I know, but thats totally not what he asked ;)
[14:21] <mintux> ikonia: maybe. but i can worked on developing on virtual system i can make backup and restore without involved my real system to ispconfig software
[14:21] <ikonia> mintux: it will still expose your real system
[14:22] <akik> mintux: you need to change the permissions on the server end "chmod 600 /usr/local/ispconfig/.ssh/authorized_keys" and maybe "chmod 700 /usr/local/ispconfig/.ssh"
[14:24] <mintux> ah
[14:25] <mintux> akik: thanks . it worked
[14:29] <lerner> every time I turn my machine on "lsb" doesnt load. there is always a red line showing me that. How do I fix it?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> lerner  what's the outcome of    lsb_release -r
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> lerner  what's the outcome of    lsb_release -d
[14:33] <lerner> MonkeyDust, both or just the second one?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> lerner  -d
[14:33] <lerner> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> lerner  i guess you can simply ignore the red line, here too it says "No LSB modules are available."
[14:36] <lerner> ok...
[14:36] <EriC^^> lerner: what red line?
[14:37] <lerner> MonkeyDust, often I have problems with the network manager. Once I have fully logged in, how do I get a copy of all messages that my machine printed while loading?
[14:37] <lerner> EriC^^, as soon as I know where to look for a log of all actions my machine did from boot, ill let you know
[14:37] <jpmh> when I look at the auth.log file I see a number of errors: systemd-logind[379]: Failed to create cgroup name=systemd:/user/0.user: No such file or directory - how do I fix this?
[14:38] <EriC^^> lerner: you mean while booting it says no lsb found with a red line?
[14:39] <EriC^^> lerner: cat /var/log/boot.log shows a little i think
[14:39] <EriC^^> others in /var/log/dmesg and syslog
[14:40] <wyre> hi guys! I'm having issues with ssh in ubuntu machine
[14:40] <wyre> always aske me for password
[14:40] <wyre> when I've disabled password in sshd_config
[14:40] <ogra_> jpmh, do you use a non-ubuntu kernel ?
[14:40] <EriC^^> wyre: did you restart ssh?
[14:40] <wyre> EriC^^, several times xD
[14:40] <EriC^^> wyre: k just checking :P
[14:41] <bekks> wyre: So how did you set it up?
[14:41] <wyre> well ... I've added the user in AllowUsers
[14:41] <wyre> and disabled passwordAuth
[14:41] <lerner> EriC^^, while logging in I see everything my machine loads: each line starts with "ok" in green or "not ok" in red
[14:41] <wyre> I've generated a keypar
[14:41] <jpmh> ogra: this is on a cpontainered virtual server, where I installed ubuntu 14.4 which is working VERY well - this error seems to indicate no real issue, I just don't like errors in logs
[14:41] <wyre> and copy into authorized_keys
[14:41] <bekks> wyre: you copied what exactly into authorized_keys?
[14:41] <wyre> but then always is asking me to a password what I don't know xD
[14:42] <wyre> id_rsa.pub content
[14:42] <ogra_> jpmh, well, seems like your host machin runs a kernel that is missing some cgroup features that ubuntu uses by default
[14:42] <wyre> I did a cat to this file
[14:42] <jpmh> ogra, that makes complete sense.  Since they do not seem to be needed how do I disable the calls to them?
[14:43] <ogra_> (i dont think it actually is an issue unless you start using something like lxc *inside* ubuntu )
[14:43] <wyre> bekks, but the point is ... Why is asking me a password what I don't know?¿ xD
[14:43] <wyre> and I didn't setup¿
[14:43] <wyre> hehe
[14:43] <wyre> it doesn't ask me for passphrase xD
[14:43] <ogra_> jpmh, probably by removing some cgroup userspace package (i wouldnt know which though)
[14:44] <ogra_> i'd actuaLLy google for th error message (and "ubuntu" or so)
[14:44] <jpmh> ogra, thank you so much - so what is cgroup?
[14:44] <ogra_> it makes sure that only certain resources (ram/cpu) are assigned to a process
[14:44] <bekks> wyre: Either it is the user password, or the password you specified when creating the keypair.
[14:45] <jpmh> ogra, ty so much - I'll go an reseacrh now
[14:46] <ogra_> :)
[14:46] <ogra_> good luck ...
[14:46] <wyre> bekks, isn't xD
[14:46] <wyre> bekks, any both
[14:46] <wyre> bekks, I mean ... I've tried with multiples keys what could be but anyone works xD
[14:48] <ogra_> wyre, did you add the public key of the user to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[14:48] <ogra_> else it will always ask for a password
[14:48] <ogra_> (there is no need to add it to "AllowUsers" )
[14:48] <wyre> ogra_, yes, I did cat from the id_rsa file to authorized_keys
[14:48] <wyre> id_rsa.pub concretely
[14:48] <ogra_> uh
[14:48] <ogra_> yeah, better :)
[14:49] <wyre> ogra_, but ... what password?¿
[14:49] <ogra_> anything in auth.log ?
[14:49] <bekks> wyre: the one you setup.
[14:49] <wyre> bekks, when I generated key par?
[14:49] <bekks> wyre: For example, yes.
[14:50] <wyre> bekks, but that's passphrase isn't called "password" itself
[14:50] <wyre> it is asking me for a password
[14:50] <wyre> not passphrase
[14:50] <wyre> but equally, passphrase what I setup doesn't work either
[14:50] <bekks> wyre: and how does that matter, how it is called?
[14:50] <wyre> xD
[14:50] <ogra_> well, what does your auth.log say when you log in ?
[14:51] <wyre> bekks, well... maybe not matter but passphrase isn't the password asked
[14:51] <wyre> because doesn't work xD
[14:51] <wyre> in client? or in server?
[14:51] <ogra_> it should tell you why it asks for a password
[14:51] <ogra_> on the server indeed
[14:51] <bekks> wyre: On the system you want to log on to.
[14:51] <ogra_> tail -f /var/log/auth.log ... then attempt a login from another terminal and see what it prints in the first one
[14:54] <wyre> ogra_, http://pastebin.com/xDHupV78
[14:55] <ogra_> i dont see any login attempt for a user there
[14:56] <wyre> ogra_, I'm using that command
[14:56] <wyre> ssh -oKexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:56] <ogra_> (only root stuff ... which wont work)
[14:57] <wyre> because I'm a machine with a newest version of ssh
[14:57] <ogra_> did you just try plain "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[14:58] <ogra_> it doesnt even look like you get through to the server
[14:58] <wyre> ogra_, I get "Unable to negotiate with <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: no matching key exchange method found. Their offer: diffie-hellman-group1-sha1"
[14:58] <wyre> message
[14:58] <wyre>  but however I've got added the known host in the file
[15:02] <wyre> ogra_, nothing, there is no way :(
[15:02] <ogra_> well, looks to me like it already blocks at the host negotiation
[15:02] <ogra_> are you using xenial on your client machine ?
[15:02] <wyre> ogra_, no xD
[15:02] <ogra_> openssh dropped quite a few insecure algorithms
[15:02] <wyre> I'm using Arch
[15:03] <ogra_> well, is your arch using openssh 7.x ?
[15:03] <wyre> ogra_, but ... It's necessary to use the same system on client machine?
[15:03] <ogra_> it isnt
[15:03] <wyre> ogra_, yes :D
[15:03] <wyre> is using 7.x
[15:03] <wyre> but even from my mobile with juicessh i can't connect :(
[15:03] <ogra_> wel, that might be the issue ... 7.x dropped all sha1 variants iirc
[15:04] <ogra_> (because they are considered insecure)
[15:04] <ogra_> http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html
[15:04] <wyre> ogra_, then ... should I generate the key par with that?
[15:04] <wyre> with 7.x?
[15:04] <wyre> and add into authorized_keys in xenial server?
[15:05] <ogra_> that page tells you to use the same option you have ... but i guess if the cypher is gone completely the option wont really help
[15:05] <wyre> ogra_, then?
[15:06] <wyre> what's the more secure solution?
[15:06] <ogra_> dunno, i'm out of ideas here ..
[15:06] <ogra_> your server is xenial ?
[15:06] <wyre> ogra_, yes
[15:06] <ogra_> and offers diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 ???
[15:06] <ogra_> that cant really be
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> !xenial | wyre
[15:06] <wyre> ogra_, oh, no!
[15:07] <wyre> it's Trusty
[15:07] <wyre> xD
[15:07] <wyre> sorry ... :S
[15:07] <ogra_> ah
[15:07] <wyre> but then Trusty has no a secure ssh?
[15:07] <wyre> :(
[15:08] <ogra_> well, it still has some sha1 cyphers
[15:08] <ogra_> (since it ships with some 6.x version)
[15:08] <wyre> ogra_, and I cannot update only ssh?
[15:08] <wyre> should I install form zero Xenial?
[15:09] <julian-delphiki> SHA-1 isn't inherently insecure.
[15:10] <julian-delphiki> well, hasn't been cracked, yet.
[15:10] <wyre> julian-delphiki, but what means that?
[15:10] <wyre> I should format my PC?
[15:10] <wyre> because Xenial has not been released yet even, right?
[15:10] <julian-delphiki> wyre, no? wait, so you are on Xenial?
[15:11] <thyrth> how do I share folders between two Ubuntu Boxes ?
[15:11] <ogra_> julian-delphiki, nope, he is on trusty
[15:11] <wyre> Will be the next month
[15:11] <julian-delphiki> wyre, then what are you attempting to secure here, SSH?
[15:11] <ogra_> (well, the server is ... the clientis on arch with ssh 7.x )
[15:11] <wyre> julian-delphiki, what ogra_ says xD
[15:12] <wyre> then what are my alternatives?
[15:12] <julian-delphiki> wyre, so you're attempting to make the server not use sha1?
[15:12] <ogra_> julian-delphiki, he tries to ssh from the 7.x arch client to a 6.x trusty server ... auth.log doesnt even show a connect attepnt though
[15:12] <thyrth> I need to sync to folders on two Ubuntu Machines
[15:12] <ogra_> so it looks like it already fails at the host negotiation
[15:13] <jpmh> thyrth then rsync or unison are great
[15:13] <julian-delphiki> ogra_, OH, wyre, we'll need an `ssh -vvvv host` from the client machine.
[15:14] <wyre> julian-delphiki, pastebin.com/11F61H3t
[15:15] <julian-delphiki> wyre, alright, that's what i expected. http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html explains how to connect to 'legacy' connections.   The older style (diffie-hellman-group1-sha1) still exists in the new code, it's just disabled by default.
[15:15] <ogra_> debug1: identity file /home/wyre/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
[15:15] <ogra_> debug1: key_load_public: No such file or directory
[15:16] <ogra_> that doesnt look right
[15:16] <julian-delphiki> ogra_, that's fine, that's just the client checking if their ssh key exists
[15:16] <ogra_> k
[15:17] <jlems> Can anyone help me with the following issue I have? I've posted it on the ubuntu forms here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317590&p=13458064#post13458064
[15:17] <wyre> julian-delphiki, I've used -oKexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 already
[15:18] <wyre> but it asks me for a password what i don't know
[15:18] <julian-delphiki> wyre, oh, then ogra_ is correct, you don't have your SSH key set up correctly.  The password is to the user account you're connecting to
[15:19] <ogra_> what is bothering is that there is no trace of the login attempt in auth.log at all
[15:19] <ogra_> i dont get how you can even get a password prompt since auth.log dosnt show any connection
[15:19] <julian-delphiki> ogra_, yeah, that's odd. It should at least be showing a connection.
[15:20] <ogra_> wyre, the auth log you showed was from the target server, right ?
[15:20] <ogra_> not from your arch client machine
[15:20] <julian-delphiki> on the server you could check to see if you can enable some other KEX
[15:20] <akik> jlems: did you create a bridge configuration?
[15:21] <jlems> akia: I was trying to setup networking on a virtual machine using KVM, that's where that bridge is coming from.
[15:22] <akik> jlems: if you remove the bridge, does it work then?
[15:23] <jlems> akik: I'm not sure, I haven't tried that. Do you know how I would remove the bridge?
[15:23] <wyre> ogra_, right
[15:24] <wyre> julian-delphiki, the password of that user either works
[15:24] <wyre> (obviously I've tried also)
[15:25] <wyre> that's the 2 unique password that could be
[15:25] <wyre> or user password or passphrase key but anyone works
[15:25] <julian-delphiki> wyre, it's impossible that any password allows you access. unless you've got some really weird config or it's a honeypot.
[15:26] <jlems> akik: ok I brought the bridge down but I'm waiting for an update to complete on my windows VM and can't switch to wifi yet since i'm on ethernet.
[15:27] <wyre> julian-delphiki, http://ix.io/u8M
[15:27] <wyre> that's server (trusty) sshd config
[15:28] <julian-delphiki> wyre, that looks like an ssh config, not sshd config.
[15:29] <wyre> julian-delphiki, I've asked thought the client
[15:29] <wyre> with -G parameter
[15:29] <julian-delphiki> wyre, who is providing this server.
[15:30] <wyre> myself
[15:30] <wyre> is a PC in my home xD
[15:30] <cerry> I'm in need of an AMD-wizard as I consecutively fail to install this driver. I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD (and have tried severall other suggestions at AU) but somehow end up with the same problem. I am aware there a bug with 14.04 but as I see this card (6750M) is not affected. Right now I've installed "linux-headers-generic" and then "fglrx xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo". I ran amdconfig and re
[15:30] <julian-delphiki> wyre, so you set up both the client and the server? The correct file for the sshd config is /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server.
[15:30] <wyre> julian-delphiki, really is not a server is a laptop where I need do maintenance sometimes
[15:31] <wyre> julian-delphiki, yes, I know :)
[15:31] <julian-delphiki> wyre, also, is there a language you understand better? just wondering.
[15:31] <wyre> julian-delphiki, personally?
[15:31] <wyre> julian-delphiki, spanish xD
[15:32] <wyre> but english is not inconvenience
[15:32] <julian-delphiki> wyre, there are spanish ubuntu channels, lol :) just letting you know.
[15:32] <wyre> julian-delphiki, but I get better help here :)
[15:32] <julian-delphiki> wyre, the problem is that I don't even understand what your current problem is
[15:32] <wyre> and there are many people, in fact I've asked already in Ubuntu-es
[15:34] <julian-delphiki> wyre, so what is the current problem?
[15:34] <wyre> julian-delphiki, well... the sha1 issue is solved with -o KexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 parameter
[15:34] <julian-delphiki> correct.
[15:34] <wyre> but is keep asking me a password what I don't know
[15:35] <julian-delphiki> wyre, it's the login password of whatever user you're connecting as.
[15:35] <wyre> is not the passphrase of my generated key par and is not the user password in the server
[15:35] <julian-delphiki> wyre, maybe you're connecting as the wrong user, are the usernames the same?
[15:35] <wyre> of course xD
[15:35] <wyre> I've both PCs here .)
[15:35] <wyre> with me
[15:36] <wyre> those are things what I'm sure xD
[15:36] <vooze> Is it possible in unity (ubuntu 14.04) to change the animation of the minimize etc. so that it minimizes DOWN instead of left (where the launcher is) ? I'm using plank and have semi disabled the launcher, this is all that is remaining, I'm looking in CCSM but can't find an option for it under animations.
[15:36] <julian-delphiki> wyre, k, then it literally has to be the same password as long as you're connecting as the same username. That's how password auth works.
[15:36] <wyre> julian-delphiki, yes, the user pass are 4 numbers, xD
[15:36] <wyre> is not so difficult
[15:36] <wyre> and I've regenerated the keys with same passphrase 3 times at least
[15:37] <wyre> the passphrase is right xD
[15:37] <wyre> but doesn't work
[15:37] <wyre> to connect with the server
[15:37] <wyre> not connect from here (arch) and not connect from my mobile (juicessh)
[15:38] <julian-delphiki> wyre, it wont be the Key password unless you have the key on the machines you're connecting from. I don't think you understand how key auth works
[15:38] <wyre> julian-delphiki, maybe should I generate the keys here in mi Arch client?
[15:39] <TJ-> wyre: the issue is you get an SSH password prompt even though you've configured keys and added to the known hosts file?
[15:39] <wyre> julian-delphiki, yes, the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub are here in .ssh folder xD
[15:39] <ogra_> s/known hosts/authorized_keys/
[15:39] <ogra_> ;)
[15:39] <julian-delphiki> TJ-, the issue is that he thinks he can just login with the keypassword
[15:39] <wyre> TJ-, the same :D
[15:39] <kwesidev> Am running ubuntu 14.04 and am planning upgrading to 16.04 will it be possible to dist-upgrade ?? since 16.04 supports systemd?
[15:39] <wyre> ogra_, I've been added the key there also xD
[15:40] <TJ-> julian-delphiki: urghh
[15:40] <wyre> julian-delphiki, not, that's not my issue
[15:40] <ogra_> wyre, you indeed neew to generte your id_rsa on the client machine
[15:40] <vooze> kwesidev: yes, but with big changes you might consider reinstall.
[15:40] <julian-delphiki> wyre, you have to generate the SSH keys on the client, and add the public portion to .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[15:40] <wyre> I've generated the key par and I've added to authorized keys and then I've pasted that key par generated into my .ssh folder of my client
[15:40] <ogra_> and then add a line with the content of the id_rsa.pub content on the servers authorized_keys file
[15:40] <TJ-> wyre: for what it is worth, I was going to ask you if the on the target PC the users' home directory is encrypted?
[15:40] <wyre> and so ... only with the passphrase of the key par should I can log
[15:40] <wyre> but doesn't work
[15:40] <ogra_> wyre, thats the wrong way round
[15:41] <wyre> is asking me for a password what is not the passphrase and is not the user password (in the server)
[15:41] <ogra_> you generate the key on your arch box
[15:41] <ogra_> then grab the line from id_rsa.pub and put that on the server into the authorized_keys file
[15:41] <wyre> ogra_, ok, I'll try then
[15:42] <TJ-> wyre: generate id_rsa and id_rsa.pub on the *local* machine. Use "ssh-copy-id <target-host>" to copy the id_rsa.pub across to the target, then "ssh <target-host>"
[15:42] <julian-delphiki> and then the password it asks you for when copying is the USER PASSWORD on the server.
[15:43] <wyre> julian-delphiki, TJ- I've got both PCs here
[15:43] <wyre> I can paste it with a pendrive
[15:43] <wyre> is not necessary use ssh-copy or scp
[15:43] <julian-delphiki> wyre, we're aware, please dont do it like that, you'll mess up the file permissions potentially
[15:43] <ogra_> yeah, the tools have checks and stuff ... use them ;)
[15:49] <Guest24658> is there a way for me to add applications to a specific panel with a command line?
[15:49] <wyre> julian-delphiki, ogra_ http://pastebin.com/JrZ8sLZp
[15:49] <wyre> doesn't work either
[15:49] <ogra_> wyre, ./id_rsa_m.pub ??
[15:50] <ogra_> thats not the right location
[15:50] <julian-delphiki> wyggler2, you're literally not doing it right if it doesn't work
[15:50] <wyre> ogra_, that's my key generated location
[15:50] <wyre> in my client
[15:50] <wyre> I'm in .ssh
[15:50] <wyre> folder
[15:50] <ogra_> ah
[15:50] <davido> "doesn't work" isn't a useful error message.
[15:50] <ogra_> missed that
[15:50] <julian-delphiki> wyre, which password are you using when you log in there.
[15:51] <daslicht> https://gist.github.com/daslicht/2f06408f1d29a605b288
[15:51] <wyre> severals
[15:51] <wyre> but anyone works
[15:51] <wyre> first the marisol user password
[15:51] <daslicht> why is the service not working ?
[15:51] <julian-delphiki> wyre, i think you mean none of them work.
[15:51] <wyre> but password of key doesn't work either
[15:51] <wyre> oh, right
[15:51] <jlems> akik: removing the bridge did not work. Any other suggestions?
[15:51] <wyre> sorry my poor english xD
[15:52] <julian-delphiki> wyre, it is 100% the password on the marisol user on <IP_ADDRESS>.  That's also a public IP address... if they're both in the same LAN don't you want the internal IP
[15:52] <wyre> excuse *
[15:52] <froder1k> hi there, I broke my system and cant boot at the moment, I bootet into a live system want to upgrade all the packages - So I mounted all the drives and bound the folders. But when I use chroot to execute the apt-get command its hangs on update-initramfs - any suggestions?
[15:52] <froder1k> It creates the image with the suffix .new in /boot but its size does not increase
[15:53] <ikonia> re-install
[15:53] <wyre> julian-delphiki, nothing http://pastebin.com/WM1kTuE8
[15:53] <ikonia> sounds like you've made a mess by breaking your system then doing a silly upgrade on a broken system via an odd method
[15:54] <froder1k> ikonia: if I would know another method I would make use of it
[15:54] <julian-delphiki> wyre, okay, that is different than what you got when you connected on the external IP. The external is not what you want.  What you do want is to change the sshd config to allow passwords copy-id the key over, then remove password auth again
[15:54] <froder1k> there is no chance to boot the old one
[15:54] <ikonia> froder1k: why did you try to upgrade a broken system ?
[15:54] <ikonia> froder1k: just re-install
[15:55] <froder1k> hm, cuz a lot of configurations will be lost
[15:55] <ikonia> froder1k: then back up the config
[15:55] <ikonia> froder1k: then re-install
[15:55] <TJ-> froder1k: execute "update-initramfs -vu ..." to get VERBOSE logging, that'll show where it is getting stuck
[15:56] <ikonia> you've tried to upgrade a broken system - and used a chroot, it's just not a good idea
[15:56] <wyre> julian-delphiki, how change that in config?
[15:56] <ikonia> backup your data and re-install
[15:56] <ikonia> save time messing around
[15:56] <wyre> julian-delphiki, apparently there is no such parameter :S
[15:56] <froder1k> ikonia: going to try it :-/
[15:56] <froder1k> thanks
[15:59] <froder1k> ikonia: are you recommending installing over the existing system?
[16:00] <froder1k> ikonia: or wipe everything?
[16:02] <wyre> julian-delphiki, well... it's done
[16:02] <wyre> julian-delphiki, but only ask me for passphrase how sould it be when I use internal IP
[16:02] <wyre> with external IP asks me for a password again
[16:02] <wyre> (or still)
[16:09] <julian-delphiki> wyre, your server isn't asking for passwords, you need to change it to ask for passwords.
[16:09] <wyre> julian-delphiki, it was the port
[16:09] <affy> Hey guys, I need some help with a new Ubuntu 14.04 (x64) installation. I just installed and successfully fixed a boot issue. But now, when I attempt to log in, I get thrown instantly back into the login screen. I also have missing text all over the place.
[16:09] <wyre> julian-delphiki, I've changed it and now works as should
[16:09] <wyre> julian-delphiki, I don't know why, maybe my ISP has that port controlled
[16:10] <julian-delphiki> wyre, they likely do
[16:10] <wyre> likely to do remote management over gateway ;)
[16:11] <wyre> because the gateway configuration should be widely via web :)
[16:11] <ROPA> good day all, is there a way to add a shortcut to an existing panel via the command line?
[16:11] <wyre> the ISP has a portal specifically to do that :)
[16:20] <john__> Hi. I have a problem with Ubuntu. Where can I ask for help?
[16:22] <aq2> john__: Here.
[16:23] <aq2> !pm | john__
[16:26] <lerner> where do I find the home dir. of 0ad? its a game for ubuntu
[16:26] <john__> Hi. For the last week I get different errors when booting and all end up in "grub rescue" I followed serveral solutions on internet but nothing working. Only boot repairs works but after a few reboots it goes back to grub rescye. The boot repair log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/15437920/
[16:27] <exnihilo> Hi guys I'm playing around with CCSM. Is there anyone who can tell me which plug-in I have to activate to enable Desktop Wall? Thanks
[16:27] <llutz> lerner: dpkg -L 0ad
[16:27] <aq2> john__: Have you done anything that might have broken it?
[16:28] <aq2> exnihilo: Isn't desktop wall a compiz thing?
[16:28] <exnihilo> Indeed
[16:28] <john__> aq2: Maybe some minor updates. I have no dual boot whatsoever
[16:28] <exnihilo> But it's deactivated
[16:28] <aq2> exnihilo: I don't think its a plugin, just a setting there
[16:28] <aq2> john__: Boot from the installation DVD, i'll help you in a moment
[16:29] <aq2> john__: or usb stick
[16:29] <aq2> exnihilo: Screenshot?
[16:29] <exnihilo> Yes but if you go in preferences you'll find a list of plugin you have to activate for specific things
[16:29] <aq2> exnihilo: Let me have a look.
[16:30] <firippu> I forgot my password to my ubuntu server on windows azure, let's call it "ubuntu1". apparently resetting the password on the azure portal is an upcoming feature and cannot be done right now.
[16:30] <firippu> I tried following microsoft's docs on resetting the password using powershell or azure command line utilities but it failed. maybe because the azure agent on the VM isn't running or something. i'm still looking into options on the azure side of fixing this problem.
[16:30] <firippu> Anywho, I've got access to a windows 10 desktop and of course, spinning up more ubuntu servers.
[16:30] <firippu> Anyone have a recommendation about how I might go about brute forcing the sshd on "ubuntu1" from another ubuntu box or windows 10? I know a number of strings that might be a part of the password, so that would narrow it down. and no - i'm not trying to break into someone's ubuntu server, it's mine
[16:30] <exnihilo> Ok thank you
[16:30] <lerner> llutz, any idea of how to delete all saved games? I cannot find them anywhere
[16:30] <aq2> firippu: I can help you to restore the password
[16:30] <aq2> firippu: Is the server using grub?
[16:30] <k1l_> lerner: in your users home?
[16:30] <aq2> exnihilo: In compizconfig?
[16:31] <firippu> aq2 let me check the boot diagnostic
[16:31] <llutz> lerner: no idea, i don't play pc-games. look inside ~/.local or ~/.config  for related stuff
[16:31] <aq2> firippu: If its not a powerpc or something its grub
[16:31] <john__> aq2: Ok I have a boot USB ready
[16:31] <lerner> no k1l_ not there, neither under .0ad
[16:31] <aq2> firippu: Boot it and hold down left shift, the menu should appear.
[16:31] <k1l_> lerner: its in .config or .cache in your users home
[16:31] <aq2> john__: Boot.
[16:31] <firippu> ah, that's the problem
[16:31] <firippu> i have no console access
[16:31] <aq2> firippu: So remote only?
[16:31] <k1l_> lerner: or .local./share/
[16:32] <firippu> indeed
[16:32] <exnihilo> Yes compizconfig settings manager CCSM
[16:32] <aq2> firippu: Well, to become root without the password you need to have physical access to the computer
[16:32] <exnihilo> I can send you a screenshot let me take it
[16:32] <lerner> thx k1l_ !!
[16:32] <firippu> i may have albeight slow physical access to the hard disk
[16:33] <john__> aq2: I will lose access to IRC. I am in Ubuntu at the moment
[16:33] <firippu> I really don't want to do it, but i could download the VHD...
[16:33] <aq2> john__: Ok, come back here again when booted
[16:33] <|avalon|> _if_ booted... ;>
[16:33] <|avalon|> ;)
[16:33] <aq2> firippu: I would have booted it directly to bash instead of systemd
[16:35] <firippu> so it sounds like downloading the VHD is necessary other than attacking the sshd
[16:38] <aq2> exnihilo: I just enabled the desktop wall and it works great
[16:40] <graps> Hi
[16:43] <TJ-> firippu: the workaround solution is to create a new VM (keeping the old 'attached disks'), attach the 'old' disk image to the new VM (it'll be just a data disk) and boot. Then you can mount it in the 'new' VM, use chroot and change the password to something you know, then reverse the process using the disk image as the boot disk for yet another new VM
[16:44] <TJ-> firippu: there's a good overview here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23000516/web-console-access-for-azure-virtual-machine
[16:46] <andreipath> hi everyone
[16:46] <Guest89161> hi
[16:46] <andreipath> anyone cangive me a hand ?
[16:46] <avalon_> nice idea, he could just make things easier booting existing VM from iso, right?
[16:46] <graps> andreipath: Hi
[16:46] <andreipath> i have a weird weird thing happening
[16:46] <graps> andreipath: Ask your specific question
[16:46] <andreipath> ok
[16:46] <andreipath> im using kali linux
[16:47] <firippu> TJ- thank you :D
[16:47] <aq2> andreipath: And you're on ubuntu support channel?
[16:47] <andreipath> and i installed https everywhere
[16:47] <andreipath> i know :(
[16:47] <John__> aq: I am in the Live USB now
[16:47] <andreipath> but there are no ppl in kali rook
[16:47] <andreipath> anyway, i think you guys might findit interesting
[16:48] <John__> aq2: I am in the Live USB now
[16:48] <aq2> 390 people on #kali-linux
[16:48] <aq2> Oh John__
[16:48] <andreipath> so i installed tor, privoxy, proxychains
[16:48] <aq2> John__: Run lsblk on a terminal and post the results to dpaste, link here
[16:48] <andreipath> i can see clear net sites
[16:48] <andreipath> but cand visit any tor links
[16:48] <exnihilo> aq2: Sorry I had some issues Can i send you the screenshot?
[16:49] <andreipath> everytime i try togo to a onion link
[16:49] <aq2> Yes, use http://pasteboard.co/ or some other site like that
[16:49] <andreipath> i get a redirect to search3.com
[16:49] <John__> aq2: http://dpaste.com/0BT15A6
[16:49] <andreipath> anyone any ideas ?
[16:50] <graps> andreipath: Did you check your hosts file ?
[16:50] <aq2> andreipath: That's on Ubuntu or kali?
[16:50] <andreipath> yes, changed it
[16:50] <andreipath> still happening
[16:50] <aq2> John__: Is sda1 your Ubuntu partition?
[16:50] <andreipath> i got my host to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:50] <andreipath> kali
[16:51] <John__> aq2: Yes. and sda5 the swap
[16:51] <andreipath> i think its some kind of browser hijacking piece of crap
[16:51] <Guest89161> Do business use Ubuntu?
[16:52] <aq2> John__: Just a moment, let me find a tutorial i used previously
[16:52] <John__> aq2: No probs. Thanks
[16:53] <graps> andreipath: Checking search3.com link, please hold
[16:53] <exnihilo> aq2: Here you have http://pasteboard.co/2pwcM3KC.png
[16:54] <firippu> i stopped the server, deleted it, waiting on provisioning for another
[16:54] <exnihilo> As you can see desktop wall is deactivated and I need the name of the plug in that activates it
[16:54] <firippu> ;-)
[16:55] <firippu> the old page blob is 29.3 gb and i will connect it to the new machine
[16:55] <firippu> and use keepass this time, heh
[16:55] <graps> andreipath: Have you tried to reinstall the Tor browser ? It might not do anything, but I'm not getting search3.com as an active URL
[16:56] <graps> Oh well
[16:56] <shmoopie> hallo
[16:56] <graps> shmoopie: Hi
[16:56] <aq2> John__: Run these on the terminal, if you get any error messages stop http://dpaste.com/1BPCA2P
[16:57] <graps> MonkeyDust: Hi
[16:57] <aq2> John__: Oops
[16:57] <aq2> John__: Let me correct the commands
[16:59] <John__> aq2: /proc do not exist
[16:59] <aq2> John__: Corrected commands: http://dpaste.com/1KJZKY7
[17:00] <aq2> John__: Oh sorry!
[17:00] <aq2> let me correct them more.
[17:00] <aq2> John__: Or actually, try this tutorial: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[17:00] <aq2> That seems to be what we need
[17:01] <aq2> John__: so instead of the blue /dev/sdXY use /dev/sda1 because that's your ubuntu partition
[17:01] <John__> aq2: I did your dpaste
[17:01] <aq2> John__: And it actually worked?
[17:01] <John__> aq2: Don't know. Nothing happened
[17:02] <aq2> John__: Ok, type exit, does the terminal close?
[17:02] <shmoopie> when 1604?
[17:03] <John__> aq2: http://dpaste.com/1WR149B
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | shmoopie
[17:04] <aq2> John__: Exit again, what happens?
[17:04] <John__> aq2: it says logout and the same
[17:04] <aq2> John__: Exiting multiple times the terminal should close
[17:05] <John__> aq2: now
[17:06] <aq2> Ok
[17:06] <aq2> sorry about turning this into a mess by trying to follow multiple tutorials!
[17:06] <John__> aq2: No problem.  Id be happy with any solution that lets me use my keyboard.
[17:21] <k1l_> !fr | krys
[17:21] <firippu> TJ- : i'm almost done, thank for the idea ;)
[17:21] <krys> Yes sorry
[17:29] <alnr> since upgrading to xenial, supervisor app does not start automatically, any known issues?
[17:30] <k1l_> alnr: ask in #ubuntu+1 for xenial issues
[17:30] <alnr> tks
[17:32] <John__> aq2: it didnt work :(
[17:33] <DavidFromBE> ubuntu 15.10, why does "sudo amdconfig --odgt" gives me "ERROR - X needs to be running to perform AMD Overdrive(TM) commands" ? X is running of course !
[17:36] <llutz> DavidFromBE: don't use sudo
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> gksudo?
[17:37] <DavidFromBE> llutz: same without
[17:37] <DavidFromBE> i have another machien, same config, no issue
[17:39] <jonascj> Hi all. I have booted the Ubuntu 16 daily live disk and I am trying to setup LVM. "ls -l /dev/sda*" shows me I have /dev/sda1 (efi system partition) and /dev/sda2 (for lvm), but "pvcreate /dev/sda2" tells me "Can not open /dev/sda2 exclusively. Mounted filesystem?"
[17:39] <geirha> !xenial | jonascj
[17:39] <jonascj> geirha: you think it has to do with ubuntu 16 instead ofjust a standard linux / ubuntu issue?
[17:42] <mostafa> hi
[17:45] <Chelsea_Jurgens> what's up
[17:47] <aq2> John__: What was the error message?
[17:48] <John__> aq2: first I got "reloc offset is out of the segment" but after rebooting again I go to the normal grub but when I click ENTER it gets stuck in the purple screen
[17:49] <aq2> John__: so ubuntu is broken too?
[17:50] <John__> aq2: Don't think so because when I use boot repair I enter my ubuntu 1 or 2 times before it starts crushing again
[17:50] <aq2> John__: Ok, so you can boot to ubuntu?
[17:50] <aq2> Sounds like your hard drive is broken :(
[17:50] <aq2> back up your files
[17:50] <John__> aq2: yes but only 1 or 2 times before the same thing happens again
[17:51] <aq2> yes, probably a hard drive failure
[17:51] <aq2> i think you need a new hard drive, i could be wrong though
[17:51] <John__> aq2: oh no
[17:52] <John__> aq2: thats bad news
[17:52] <Bashing-om> John__: Have you checked the hard drive health with ' smartctl ' utility ?
[17:52] <aq2> I don't think he has
[17:53] <John__> Basing-om: no
[17:53] <John__> Bashing-om: no
[17:53] <twitnit> Hey all! I'm having an issue with GRUB after installing UbuntuGNOME 15.10 alongside Windows 8.1 (which it didn't detect when I installed Ubuntu). I get a brown box when I boot, then it goes straight to Ubuntu. I can't seem to get into the BIOS as well. Any idea what's happening?
[17:54] <aq2> twitnit: Yes, you forgot to disable fast boot from windows before installing.
[17:54] <twitnit> Any way to get into Windows?
[17:55] <Bashing-om> John__: Not familiar with your situation, as I just jouned .. but if ya want we can look at the data from ' sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda | pastebinit ' Where you may have to install the tool, and as well install ' pastebinit ' .
[17:55] <aq2> twitnit: I think it's possible, in the past I've recommended going to ##windows
[17:55] <aq2> People have said that people know how to help there
[17:55] <twitnit> aq2: Alright, thanks!
[17:55] <akik> aq2: it doesn't help much as it's grub which boots ubuntu
[17:57] <akik> twitnit: if you boot ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" do you see it adding windows?
[17:58] <John__> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15439324/
[17:58] <Bashing-om> John__: look'n .
[18:00] <Bashing-om> John__: This a SSD ? " Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -<PHONE_NUMBER>793 " does not look good to me ! Others comments, please .
[18:02] <John__> Bashing-om: Yes its a SSD
[18:03] <funky> #spitsbergen
[18:03] <Bashing-om> John__: Let's await those who have experience with SSDs to comment .. does no look good to me . In addition is " UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0036   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2419 " .
[18:04] <John__> Bashing-om: Ok let's see what they say
[18:05] <frostschutz> John__, Device is: Not in smartctl database, try to update your smartctl database, otherwise smartctl won't be able to make sense of most of the attributes
[18:06] <Bashing-om> frostschutz: :) . Appreciate that assist .. good job !
[18:08] <John__> Bashing-om: what was the command to update it sorry?
[18:10] <Bashing-om> John__: Sorry, do not know .. maybe the docs will help ? see: https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/TocDoc .
[18:16] <John__> Bashing-om: 'sudo /usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb' does not work :(
[18:17] <xdevnull> How do i track proccesser in ubuntu?
[18:17] <xdevnull> The top once?
[18:18] <Bashing-om> John__: Does the file exist ' ls -al /usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb " ?
[18:19] <John__> Bashing-om: Yes
[18:19] <Bashing-om> John__: Then, what is the error when you attempt to update ? in a pastebin .
[18:19] <John__> Bashing-om: the error was '/var/lib/smartmontools/drivedb/drivedb.h.error: rejected by /usr/sbin/smartctl, probably no longer compatible'
[18:21] <Bashing-om> John__: Ouch ... Maybe smartmontools does not have support for your particular SSD ??
[18:21] <xdevnull> can strace a service?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> xdevnull  there's no verb in your question
[18:22] <_Kevin_> has anyone tried the 4.5 kernel? I installed it and all the headers required for it, but when I rebooted, my wifi didn't work, so I had to rollback to 4.2.35 kernel. anyone else have this issue?
[18:22] <xdevnull> MonkeyDust, I'm facing some performance issue with mysql. I saw some posts talking about "strace" commands to debug it.
[18:23] <xdevnull> So how do i strace mysql?
[18:23] <_Kevin_> this is my system http://hastebin.com/fuvexegida.sm
[18:23] <TJ-> _Kevin_: I've been running v4.5 fine with iwlwifi - does your system require additional firmware for the wifi device, or build a 3rd party kernel driver?
[18:24] <_Kevin_> i never had to install additional firmware from github or anything, it just worked out of the box, on any distro i've used, but updating to v4.5 it didn't work
[18:25] <_Kevin_> you can see my wireless card in the hastebin link
[18:25] <John__> Bashing-om: this is the summary I get from boot repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/15439600/
[18:27] <daged> hello, I have a problem with X
[18:27] <_Kevin_> here's the ubuntu pastebin link of my system hardware including my wireless card. https://paste.ubuntu.com/15439642/
[18:28] <aq2> daged: What does startx do?
[18:29] <asadf> When using testdisk is it writing sectors?
[18:29] <daged> aq2, i reinstall nvidia driver on my ubuntu 14.04 and after that dissapears tray, start menu and window decoration in unity
[18:30] <aq2> daged: So lightdm works?
[18:31] <asadf> hi
[18:31] <daged> aq2, when I do the service lightdm start i get an long error message
[18:32] <aq2> daged: ok, so it doesn't work.
[18:32] <daged> start: reject sebd message, 1 matched rules....
[18:32] <daged> i think so
[18:32] <daged> but when I choose CTRL+ALT+7 i can see logon screen
[18:32] <daged> but after login i cant see nothing
[18:32] <aq2> On my system I'd probably remove xorg and lightdm and install them again
[18:33] <asadf> hi
[18:33] <aq2> But i know my system better than the default unity ubuntu so i have no idea about what packages should be removed on ubuntu
[18:33] <asadf> Does using software like testdisk is it count as writing sectors?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> John__: K, called away .. will be back in a bit . Will take this back up with you .
[18:36] <daged> aq2, I'll try it
[18:36] <John__> Bashing-om: Ok. Thanks I will be here
[18:40] <Village> Hello Guys, how i can make iperf test in rescue mode?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !info iperf
[18:40] <aq2> daged: The way to install them is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:41] <aq2> daged: but removing i have no idea, removing ubuntu-desktop is probably not enough
[18:41] <mat083> there are some dependencies with desktop
[18:43] <daged> aq2, yes i know thank you... I'll be back)
[18:45] <mat083> maybe you can try to docker your app and gui system, like that you'll not need to uninstall the ubuntu-desktop
[18:50] <daged> mat083, I use docky allready is pretty simple and good
[18:51] <Guest90869> who dat ?
[18:51] <daged> how you think must I install Ubuntu 16 LTS now? or maybe be better to wait a release?
[18:52] <bekks> daged: You cannot install 16.04 LTS now, since it isnt even released yet.
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> daged  wait a few more weeks
[18:52] <bekks> daged: Stick with 14.04 LTS and upgrade to 16.04.1 in abou 4 mounths, when 16.04.1 is released.
[18:53] <daged> ok
[18:53] <daged> thanks for advice
[18:54] <daged> hmm i try tu X -configure
[18:54] <daged> but threr is no /etc/X11 dir
[18:54] <invapid2> is there any easy way to update from 14 LTS to the 16 LTS (that's not yet stable?)
[18:54] <bekks> invapid2: No.
[18:55] <daged> and there is no nvidia-xconfig
[18:55] <daged> how can I generate X11 dir?
[18:55] <bekks> daged: then install a nvidia driver, from the ubuntu repos.
[18:56] <daged> agi nvidia-352 nvidia-settings? right?
[18:58] <daged> bekks, I allready has nvidia-driver in my ssytem
[18:58] <Bashing-om> John__: Back, I see no problem reported in boot-repair . Looks good to me .. However, encryption is a factor,; what level of encryption is at play here ?
[18:58] <daged> but there is no X11 dir after all manipulations with it
[18:58] <bekks> daged: then you would have nvidia-xconfig
[18:58] <bekks> daged: Which nvidia driver do you have, and which nvidia hardware do you have?
[19:00] <daged> hardware: GF 950
[19:00] <daged> driver: nvidia-352
[19:02] <daged> o!! gnome session is started normal! after i add xorg.conf and set lightgdm manager for xorg
[19:02] <daged> but Unity don't working yet
[19:03] <John__> Bashing-om: only the encryption that runs when you first install Ubuntu
[19:04] <daged> hmm... not all... only gnome (metacity)
[19:04] <daged> other variations is only blank desktop screen with bg and mouse pointer
[19:04] <daged> any ideas?
[19:06] <Bashing-om> John__: Yuk . Not much help here either as I have no experience with encryption . No idea of the process to boot with that level of complexity .
[19:07] <daged> aq2 no changes(
[19:07] <John__> Bashing-om: Just to put you into context. When I run boot repair from the live USB I can access Ubuntu 1 or 2 times after grub rescue shows again after reboot. Maybe its one of the latest updates?
[19:08] <Bashing-om> John__: Very possible . any problems in booting from older kernels ?
[19:09] <John__> Bashing-om: Not sure how to do that
[19:12] <Bashing-om> John__: Reboot, and as soon as the bios screen clears depress a shift key -> grub boot menu . advanced options and select an older kernel from the menu .
[19:14] <John__> Bashing-om: ok Will try that but I think I tried before
[19:15] <aDrz> dud, dud
[19:15] <Malgorath> What is the recommended version to install if your going to use it as a desktop and run VMs for application development? I"m sick of windows
[19:16] <Bashing-om> Malgorath: If you have the ram. install ubuntu 14.04 IF you are comfortable with unity as the DE .
[19:16] <Malgorath> 8G on 8core amd
[19:17] <aDrz> way enough :)
[19:18] <Bashing-om> Malgorath: Yepp ^^ run whatever you please on that rig .
[19:21] <jiffe> so I am seeing 'fglrx: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel' ub dmesg after reboot, I've tried reinstalling the amd deb packages but I get the same thing
[19:24] <Guest47022> Im John
[19:25] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: I can enter lastest Kernel but I get several errors
[19:27] <veritas> hello every day :D
[19:28] <Bashing-om> Guest47022: The question, however, is what results with older kernels ? Are we looking at a regression in this latest kernel ?
[19:28] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: I didnt get any errors with the old kernel
[19:29] <jiffe> I also noticed that when I reboot /etc/X11/xorg.conf seems to get removed
[19:29] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: I reboot to try what happened with the latest and I could enter but with errors
[19:29] <aDrz> does anyone tried the 16.xx with amd gpu?
[19:29] <fate_> Guest47022: which type of "error" ?
[19:29] <aDrz> ref: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[19:30] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: before entering it said "error: environment block too small" press any key to continue
[19:30] <Bashing-om> Guest47022: Then, the problem is in the latest kernel. What I do suggest is sit on this and await the release of the next kernel and see if your issue is fixed in the next release . I have seen it happen numerious times .
[19:30] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: Once in Ubuntu it said it could not install the following package: ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[19:31] <Bashing-om> aDrz: In 16.04 there is no FGLRX support .
[19:33] <Bashing-om> Guest47022: " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras " ?? The UULA might be hidden that you must accept .
[19:35] <Guest47022> Bashing-om: Done http://paste.ubuntu.com/15440587/
[19:36] <Bashing-om> Guest47022: Looks OK to me .. reboot to see the effect .
[19:50] <john__> Bashing-om: I rebooted and the same error. I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783434 and it seemed to work I didnt get the error this time
[19:51] <Bashing-om> john__: look'n .
[19:52] <Bashing-om> john__: " sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc " ??
[19:52] <john__> Bashing-om: Yes. After deleting grubenv
[19:53] <Bashing-om> john__: :), put that in our tool box .
[19:53] <Weiqi> Hello guys, Is there someone know about `dpkg-reconfigure locale`. I ran it get nothing but output as if i run `locale-gen`.
[19:53] <john__> Bashing-om: How do I do that? :)
[19:54] <Bashing-om> john__: That was in reference to remembering a fix for a given situation .
[19:55] <john__> Bashing-om: ah! haha I hope it does not happen again! Sometimes after a few reboots it goes back to grub rescue :/
[19:56] <Weiqi> I remember `dpkg-reconfigure locales` will show up an ui that lets me chose which chatset i want . shomething likes that.
[19:57] <Bashing-om> john__: Uh Huh .. With encryption as a factor, will be real tough to troubleshoot .
[19:57] <john__> Bashing-om: Let's hope for the best. I can always reinstall Ubuntu without encryption
[19:58] <nicomachus> john__: what's the issue you're having?
[19:58] <jonascj> grub-mkconfig with EFI, what should I ask it to update "-o /boot/efi/grub.cfg"?
[20:00] <john__> nicomachus: I started to go to grub rescue after rebooting. When I enter with a live USB and use boot repair. All is fine but after 2 or 3 reboots it goes back to grub rescue. We think it may be some update or the new kernel
[20:01] <MSponge> The Samsung S2 drive won't mount, but it does in gparted .. How do I mount an external drive ?
[20:02] <nicomachus> john__: anything in kern.log stick out?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> MSponge: You do not see the drive in the file manager or an icon on the desktop ?
[20:02] <MSponge> no
[20:03] <Bashing-om> MSponge: Anything in the log " dmesg" in respect to this new device when plugging it in ?
[20:04] <john__> nicomachus: not sure how I check this
[20:07] <MSponge> nothing that i can see
[20:09] <nicomachus> john__: tail /var/log/kern.log
[20:10] <nicomachus> john__: or sub 'tail' for whatever text editor you prefer. but it'll be long.
[20:11] <john__> nicomachus: I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15441033/
[20:15] <MSponge> Any clues to how to mount an S2 external drive ?
[20:15] <ioria> MSponge, it's a phone ?
[20:16] <MSponge> no. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S2-USB-Powered-Portable-Drive-Midnight-Black/dp/B003UT2QTQ
[20:16] <bekks> Its a plain USB drive.
[20:17] <MSponge> yes
[20:17] <ioria> MSponge, unplug, replug   and dmesg | tail
[20:17] <MSponge> it wont read on windows so im trying it on a live DVD.
[20:18] <bekks> MSponge: Does it have a Windows readable filesystem?
[20:18] <MSponge> i type " dmesg | tail "
[20:18] <MSponge> ^?
[20:19] <bekks> yes
[20:19] <MSponge> not that we can tell ... i think the drivers have gone on it.
[20:19] <MSponge> typing dmesg | tail