[11:27] <bazhang> ed0n0n, not really, can be changed later.
[11:27] <ikonia> klong: bootmap
[11:28] <klong> bootmap .. that doesnt ring a bell .. u sure?
[11:28] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: you can save your package list (see clone factoid below), and keep your old installation around if you have enough HD space
[11:28] <soundray> !clone | loquitus_of_borg
[11:28] <ikonia> klong: for mapping out boot times, is that what you mean
[11:28] <ed0n0n> bazhang: how could I "jump" this update process and continue with the rest?
[11:28] <PucKid> hi everyone
[11:28] <bazhang> ed0n0n, is it configuring or still downloading
[11:28] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: I understand your reservations about reinstalling, but Ubuntu evolves in such a way that it's sometimes beneficial to reinstall
[11:29] <ed0n0n> bazhang: it is configuring
[11:29] <ed0n0n> bazhang: nearly finished, it says ten minutes left
[11:29] <bazhang> ed0n0n, let it run then
[11:29] <ed0n0n> bazhang: ten minutes are already 2 hours
[11:30] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: so I am upgrade first to feisty fawn, right?
[11:30] <bazhang> ed0n0n, the configuring sequence is not to be lightly interrupted
[11:30] <klong> ikonia, there is something that usplash can read so it knows approximately what percentage of the boot is complete and this is how it decides how far the progress bar is along
[11:30] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, yes
[11:30] <dizzyking> prova
[11:30] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: which file is that sources you refer to (stupid question I know)
[11:30] <pulseezar> hello, I can't get sound with ubuntu on my laptop. any advice?
[11:30] <ed0n0n> bazhang: it cannot be, never seen sucha long install of anything. It must be a bug
[11:30] <ikonia> klong: no idea what that is, I thought you meant to map out your init process graphically
[11:30] <bazhang> dizzyking, english please
[11:31] <zvacet> loquitus_of_borg : in terminal  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  and there make changes and sava and close file
[11:31] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: cool
[11:31] <soundray> ed0n0n: I agree -- if it's been hanging for two hours, it's probably not worth waiting any longer. Is it an update-manager process, or did you do it on the command line?
[11:31] <loquitus_of_borg> sec...
[11:31] <bazhang> zvacet, why not change to feisty and dist-upgrade?
[11:32] <ed0n0n> soundray: It is running the update-manager
[11:32] <yukonjack> what network/channel might help me with openoffice.org calc?
[11:32] <pulseezar> hello, I can't get sound with ubuntu on my laptop. any advice?
[11:32] <ed0n0n> soundray: I can use the console anyway
[11:32] <zvacet> bazhang : that is a option too but  is is safe ( I saw it under unrecommend options)
[11:33] <nooga> is reiserfs good for setting 1400GB partition on raid?
[11:33] <soundray> ed0n0n: I would do a 'sudo killall update-manager', then 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and 'sudo apt-get -f install' (repeat until you don't get any errors)
[11:33] <bazhang> zvacet, certainly
[11:33] <ed0n0n> soundray: the update is for the whole system
[11:33] <msb> hello
[11:33] <bazhang> hi mab
[11:33] <soundray> ed0n0n: isn't every update for the whole system?
[11:33] <msb> how can i find out which router i am using ?
[11:33] <bazhang> err msb
[11:34] <msb> i want to set up ddclient
[11:34] <zvacet> bazhang : but that doesn´t mean it doeasn´t work I jusr try to give safe instructions if I can
[11:34] <ed0n0n> soundray: I mean that its the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[11:34] <bazhang> zvacet, it is perfectly safe
[11:34] <ed0n0n> it was nearly finished
[11:34] <soundray> ed0n0n: I see. Still, that's what I would do.
[11:34] <I_Am> lmao
[11:35] <bazhang> I_Am, support question?
[11:35] <zvacet> bazhang : O.K. then I never done it in that case that is better option
[11:35] <I_Am> on Cedega's site if you order in euros its 25 euros if you order in usd its 25 usd
[11:35] <bazhang> I_Am, please take chat elsewhere
[11:36] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: doing the apt-get update option... right now it is still processing but complaining about a bunch of au.old-releases.ubuntu.com and us.old-releases.ubuntu.com sites not working
[11:36] <ed0n0n> soundray: I cant find any "update-manager" process
[11:37] <loquitus_of_borg> http://pastebin.com/m4efe12b
[11:37] <loquitus_of_borg> check that out folks...
[11:37] <soundray> ed0n0n: can you kill it with the X button on rght of the top panel? Do the force quit if it asks you to
[11:37] <loquitus_of_borg> that is my error dump when I did the apt-get update after doing the search and replace in sources
[11:38] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all instances of edgy to feisty as I initially recommended
[11:38] <ed0n0n> soundray: killed the locale process and now it is going on, but problems with locale, gnome-base-locale and Java related
[11:39] <marius2> hi, is there a working way two use two finger s rolling on a synaptic pad?
[11:39] <soundray> ed0n0n: see if you can resolve those with the two commands I gave you above
[11:39] <zvacet> loquitus_of_borg : in terminal cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it here
[11:39] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: from the current sources or before I replaced all the stuff with old-releases?
[11:39] <\|\|raith> hey does anyone know, is there a way to install from repositories saved on hard disk instead of cdrom or internet? ie: an iso file perhaps?
[11:39] <soundray> marius2: only if the hardware supports it
[11:39] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, original ones
[11:39] <pulseezar> hello, I can't get sound with ubuntu on my laptop. any advice?
[11:40] <soundray> !sound > pulseezar
[11:40] <bazhang> pulseezar, check alsamixer in terminal and make sure nothing is muted
[11:40] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: it is long. I am pasting a url to it ok? http://pastebin.com/m3f38f9ce
[11:40] <ed0n0n> soundray: also problems with eclipse, ubuntu-minimal, ... Now it is finishing the updgrade, and I hope I can fix the rest after it finishes
[11:40] <_gAri-> hi there, if I apt-get source the kernel source, where do I find the configuration that ubuntu uses to configure the kernel?
[11:40] <soundray> pulseezar: see if you can narrow down the source of the problem with the advice in the factoid
[11:40] <bazhang> _gAri-, why would you want to do that
[11:40] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet and bazhang: that's what it looks like after the search and replace I did based on zvacet's instructions
[11:40] <cr0w> Hi !! I have used wine in order to emulate a program, now l' I have removed but in programs it is remained the connection like is removed?
[11:41] <pulseezar> thank you!
[11:41] <marius2> soundray, synaptic apds support 2 and 3 finger, out of my informations
[11:41] <soundray> marius2: only recent ones, according to my sources
[11:41] <cr0w> Hi !! I have used wine in order to emulate a program, now l' I have removed but in programs it is remained the connection like is removed?
[11:41] <izzy_> Hi folks, I got a serious problem with the nvidia drivers after upgrading to Hardy (X crashes - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/29921/). Somebody here who can assist me getting it fixed?
[11:41] <bazhang> cr0w, dont repeat so often
[11:41] <unop> \|\|raith,  which iso is it?
[11:41] <cr0w> ok
[11:42] <ed0n0n> marius2: what do you mean with 2 or 3 fingers?
[11:42] <cr0w> but you help me :D
[11:42] <\|\|raith> I'm in the process of downloading iso files for a 5 dvd set of full repositories from some ftp in indonesia
[11:42] <bazhang> izzy_, how were they initially installed
[11:42] <unop> \|\|raith,  http://tinyurl.com/56xqne
[11:42] <pulseezar> haha that was sos simple
[11:42] <marius2> look here in this (max os x) tutorial http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=88811&pid=650640&mode=threaded&start=
[11:42] <\|\|raith> for 8.04 that is
[11:42] <pulseezar> thanks for the pointers!
[11:43] <bazhang> np
[11:43] <evgeny_> how do i install wine
[11:43] <soundray> pulseezar: volume setting low? :)
[11:43] <PucKid> evgeny_: sudo apt-get install wine
[11:43] <izzy_> bazhang: Originally under feisty. I did a dist-upgrade to gutsy and then hardy. All was still fine in gutsy.
[11:43] <evgeny_> sudo apt-get install wine?
[11:43] <evgeny_> yay
[11:43] <unop> \|\|raith, you'll have to mount the iso files somewhere and use a local apt repo.
[11:43] <ed0n0n> evgeny_: sudo apt-get install wine
[11:43] <evgeny_> i guessed it :)
[11:43] <PucKid> (: yeah you did
[11:43] <PucKid> btw hi everyone (:
[11:43] <bazhang> izzy_, you want to roll back to the gutsy install? is that it?
[11:44] <soundray> marius2: that document seems to support what I told you
[11:44] <evgeny_> do i need an antivirus
[11:44] <evgeny_> or firewall
[11:44] <izzy_> bazhang - no, I want to get it fixed in hardy.
[11:44] <bazhang> evgeny_, not really no
[11:44] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: did you get the pastebin for my sources?
[11:44] <cr0w> I have used wine in order to emulate a program, now l' I have removed but in programs it is remained the connection like is removed?
[11:44] <evgeny_> what programs would u suggest?
[11:44] <bazhang> izzy_, you want to patch a kernel for hardy?
[11:44] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I am doing the apt-get update as you said... I changed all edgy to feisty
[11:44] <ed0n0n> evgeny_: firewall: Have you got a Router?
[11:44] <marius2> soundray, yes "scrolling working on MOST laptop trackpads, Works with most ALPS and Synaptics trackpads", my trackpad is a synaptics
[11:44] <soundray> cr0w: if repeating doesn't help, try rephrasing
[11:44] <PucKid> evgeny_: i'm not using an antivirus nor a firewall (:
[11:45] <evgeny_> IM GONNA HACK U MUAHAHA
[11:45] <izzy_> bazhang: I just want to fix up the issue. Latest updates have been installed.
[11:45] <bazhang> caps evgeny_ and offtopic
[11:45] <PucKid> evgeny_: you do that (:
[11:45] <soundray> marius2: note 'most' means the same as 'not all'
[11:45] <evgeny_> lol
[11:45] <ikonia> izzy_: can you give us a quick overview to the issue
[11:45] <marius2> soundray, es sure, becaus of that i ask for experiance or a good tutorial :)
[11:45] <evgeny_> oh yea how do i get KDE and gnome at the same time
[11:45] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, when that is updated then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:46] <izzy_> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/250891
[11:46] <_gAri-> bazhang: because I'M interesed, I want to compile my own kernel
[11:46] <ed0n0n> evgeny_: first time linux?
[11:46] <_gAri-> why everybody asks me why do I want that
[11:46] <izzy_> I posted the bug 2 days ago, but still got no response.
[11:46] <evgeny_> Yes siR
[11:46] <soundray> marius2: Ubuntu supported two-finger scrolling out-of-the box on my laptop
[11:46] <ekow> can someone tell me if there is a widescreen option, and where? my res looks fine but my login screen and top taskbar don't fill the whole screen.
[11:46] <_gAri-> I want to, why is this a problem?
[11:46] <bazhang> _gAri-, for speed increase? something like that?
[11:46] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: with the feisty replacement, I tried apt-get update and got the following output: http://pastebin.com/m60568f17
[11:46] <marius2> soundray, ah ok
[11:46] <evgeny_> well at least i got it installed on my first day without WUbi
[11:47] <_gAri-> no, to put some patches in, but I want to preserve the ubuntu way of modules and so on
[11:47] <unop> evgeny_, you can't run them at the same time - but you can have both installed and choose between them at logon.
[11:47] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, please pastebin the sources.list as of now to paste.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <izzy_> ikonia: It could have to do with the upgrade not cleanly removing some conflicting packages (see the "un" in the launchpad description)
[11:47] <soundray> _gAri-: it's a matter of experience -- most people who *think* they need to recompile don't *actually need* to
[11:47] <unop> evgeny_,  to install them both, open up a terminal and run this command.  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-dekstop kubuntu-dekstop
[11:47] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29927/
[11:48] <soundray> _gAri-: to answer your question, the config of the running kernel is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[11:48] <snake007uk> guys I have tried to use some of the dbus scripts to rotate my cube effect from the command line but none of them seem to work any ideas if I am missing a package?
[11:48] <ikonia> izzy_: well a few things spring to mind 1.) your using an nvidia binary driver as I see - thats nothing to do with ubuntu, ubuntu can't effect that. 2.) there is not much info (technically) in that bug report 3.) your approach to logging the bug (constantly asking for updates - eg: is anyone reading this) is not going to get you very far.
[11:48] <evgeny_> unop - and where will i be able to choose which one to use?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> snake007uk: I'd head into #compiz
[11:48] <unop> evgeny_, at the logon screen - select session and choose the one you want to run
[11:48] <snake007uk> ActionParsnip: ok :)
[11:48] <ekow> can someone tell me if there is a widescreen option, and where? my res looks fine but my login screen and top taskbar don't fill the whole screen.
[11:49] <evgeny_> thank you sir
[11:49] <unop> yw
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> ekow: what graphics card do you have?
[11:49] <izzy_> ikonia: So what information is missing? I gave a lot of technical details there - and the one post you mention has just been a single one since there was no response at all.
[11:49] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, you have breezy and dapper sources in there as well as some third party repos.
[11:49] <ed0n0n> ekow: have you used your screen's wheels?
[11:49] <_gAri-> soundray: thank you, I tought there is some package containing all the configurations for different purpose kernels, just like in debian. but this is also fine thanks!
[11:49] <romme> which email client with IMAP IDLE support can you recommend?
[11:50] <\|\|raith> ok heres another question, I'm having problems getting my linksys wusb54gv4 wireless adapter to work correctly. it'll connect to the router but data only seems to flow in small spurts or not at all. is it just a setting I need to adjust or do I need ndiswrapper and a different driver?
[11:50] <ed0n0n> romme: thunderbird
[11:50] <tphilosopher> Hey guys. Does anyone know if a file can have multiple owners?
[11:50] <izzy_> ikonia: The binary driver was offered by Ubuntu that time (it was asking me to install it)
[11:50] <soundray> _gAri-: every special-purpose kernel package contains that file, too
[11:50] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: once again pardon my newbieness... what do I do to this thing to fix it?
[11:50] <loquitus_of_borg> sources.list, that is
[11:50] <nooga> is reiserfs good for raid?
[11:50] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, best to back up and do a fresh install at this point as soundray recommended; it is a miracle that your computer is still running.
[11:50] <romme> ed0n0n: thanks, anything else?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> tphilosopher: no but a group can own it
[11:50] <cr0w> ok i have resolved .. i have used Kcontrol soundray ;)
[11:50] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: can I just delete the lines that are a problem?
[11:50] <_gAri-> soundray: I just apt-get source-d the newest kernel and I didnt find the .config in the root of the dir
[11:50] <tphilosopher> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks.
[11:50] <ed0n0n> romme: evolution?
[11:50] <soundray> !yay | cr0w
[11:50] <loquitus_of_borg> I'd like to try...
[11:51] <ed0n0n> romme: sudo apt-cache search IMAP
[11:51] <unop> loquitus_of_borg, comment out the dapper and breezy repos
[11:51] <romme> ed0n0n: evolution does not support imap idle, i've tried it and the devs told me the same
[11:51] <ikonia> izzy_: your missing a.) is it 32bit or 64bit b.) what the current version of the running kernel is c.) what the current xorg package versions are d.) what nvidia package you have installed (the driver offered by ubuntu is the nvidia binary package from nvidia.com - it's nothing to do with ubuntu, its closed source) your missing your xorg log file
[11:51] <soundray> !kernelcompile > _gAri-, you may find the information behind these links useful
[11:51] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, with all those third party (and breezy! and dapper) repos who knows what is waiting to break.
[11:51] <cr0w> soundray i have a problem..i I do not succeed to install the GCC
[11:51] <ikonia> izzy_: and your one response is not helpful to a bug report "is anyone reading this" just dilutes the data
[11:51] <evgeny_> unop - when i put that command, it told me that 0 packages would be installed, updated bla bla bla
[11:51] <soundray> cr0w: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' will do that for you
[11:52] <bazhang> ed0n0n, no need for sudo with apt-cache search
[11:52] <cr0w> it says to me that I have already installed them but not part iroffer
[11:52] <izzy_> ikonia: Let me please ask some concrete questions: 1) is the output of dpkg -l (as described there) pointing to an issue with the packaging system, and if so, what to do about this? 2) should I try to go back to the "free" driver and if so, how to achieve it best.
[11:52] <ekow> ActionParsnip: it's an intel 965 series or somethin, lemme go look up the actual thing
[11:52] <ekow> ed0n0n: i'm on a laptop, i dont think it has any external adjusters
[11:52] <ed0n0n> bazhang: :D it's just in case
[11:52] <cr0w> ok try..
[11:52] <ed0n0n> ekow: graphic card? Video adapter?
[11:53] <unop> evgeny_, are you sure you have all the ubuntu repositories enabled?
[11:53] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, up to you; imo your system is ready to break at any time--> best to back up vital data NOW before continuing
[11:53] <ikonia> izzy_: dpkg -l shows you have the nvidia-glx package installed, I dont see an issue with that, that seems quite normal. 2.) if you wish to use the non-hardware acceleracted open driver change the Driver "nvidia" to "Driver "nv" in xorg.conf
[11:54] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, comment out (place # in front of) dapper, breezy, proposed, and third party repos and try again
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ekow: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-widescreen-resolutions-for-intel-display-cards-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[11:54] <zvacet>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/29929/   it should look like this
[11:54] <izzy_> ikonia: OK, agreed to the "not helpful" post - will keep my fingers off from these :) As to your questions: 1) 32bit (despite of the AMD64 CPU) b) is to be seen by the dpkg -l output c) the latest ones (1:7.3+10ubuntu10.2) d) same source as c)
[11:54] <_gAri-> soundray: thank you, I'm totally new to ubuntu, used debian for a big while
[11:54] <cr0w> now soundray ? i have installed build-essential ..
[11:55] <AgentHeX> has anyone else had problems with the latest kernel update?  i know it shouldn't break stuff, but i'm having problems after running the update manager.
[11:55] <ekow> ed0n0n: i have a Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family
[11:55] <\|\|raith> anyone have any ideas on my problem?
[11:55] <ikonia> izzy_: c.) what is the latest one - call it out in version in the bug report as "latest" can change from your time of writing
[11:55] <soundray> cr0w: now you have gcc installed
[11:55] <loquitus_of_borg> Damn... still failing on these two: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:55] <loquitus_of_borg> Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:55] <evgeny_> unop - how do i check that?
[11:55] <ekow> ActionParsnip: i'll check it out thanks
[11:55] <soundray> _gAri-: same here, I was on Debian until Ubuntu warty came out
[11:55] <zvacet> loquitus_of_borg : after you change source list   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:56] <unop> !repositories | evgeny_,
[11:56] <cr0w> ok
[11:56] <cr0w> try ;)
[11:56] <shishirmk> !MID
[11:56] <soundray> \|\|raith: perhaps you're too far away from the router?
[11:56] <ed0n0n> ekow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5444902
[11:56] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, comment out all third party repos (those are included in the list)
[11:56] <izzy_> ikonia: ("nv") - OK. But the xorg.conf was modified by the nvidia config stuff. Any hint how to get a clean one back? -- as for "latest can change": I posted the output of dpkg -l (which mentions the version number). Is that the wrong way?
[11:56] <zvacet> loquitus_of_borg : look source list I pasted too you
[11:57] <ikonia> izzy_: remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf , reboot and let xorg manage it dynamiclly
[11:57] <AgentHeX> post kernel update, firefox keeps asking me if i want to restore the session even when it gets closed properly.  it's also slow to load, and some of my tray apps didn't load on startup.  it also tells me that the Tomboy Notes app caused an error when X loads.
[11:57] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: I didn't get the source list pasted from you
[11:57] <zvacet> loquitus_of_borg : http://paste.ubuntu.com/29929/
[11:57] <loquitus_of_borg> ah sorry
[11:57] <ekow> ed0n0n: thanks
[11:57] <izzy_> ikonia: Thanks! Did not know that xorg automatically would create a new xorg.conf if it cannot find it. Will try that.
[11:57] <g0tcha-> hey guys, dies ubuntu have a remote access program?
[11:57] <AgentHeX> i'm thinking something with my home directory has become totally messed, but i can see it just fine, and i'm not sure what to look for.
[11:57] <g0tcha-> does#
[11:58] <g0tcha-> to remote control to it from another machine
[11:58] <nooga> o shiiiit
[11:58] <ikonia> izzy_: doesnt create one, it manages one in memeory
[11:58] <bazhang> nooga, no cursing
[11:59] <nooga> i'm trying to setup a 1400GB partition on RAID and gparted says: A partition cannot have a length of -1 sectors
[11:59] <nooga> ;|
[11:59] <loquitus_of_borg> zvacet: that massively fails... I think you got something wrong in there....
[11:59] <_gAri-> soundray: actually my issue is that the ps2 keyboard works fine with the ubuntu compiled kernel, but when I compile one manually, than suddenly it stops functioning. now there arent too much requirements for ps2 to work this is I'M really curious, and I repeat I made many kernels on my own
[11:59] <g0tcha-> anyone?
[11:59] <izzy_> ikonia: Anything about the messed up packages? dpkg e.g. tells me "un  nvidia-xconfig" - which is to be read as this package is (U)nknown and (N)ot installed, right? Though, the nvidia-xconfig executable exists (/usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig)
[11:59] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, comment out medibuntu
[11:59] <_gAri-> it is a hp ml150g5 machine
[11:59] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: gotcha...
[12:00] <ed0n0n> when you kill some processes why do some survive even if you kill the as root?
[12:00] <izzy_> ikonia: OK - and how do I get the config to a file then?
[12:00] <\|\|raith> soundray: I dont think its the distance from the router thats the problem, I'm running XP right now and my internet works perfectly, just not in ubuntu
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: vnc
[12:00] <nooga> what's the problem?
[12:00] <ikonia> izzy_: don't, remove the config file and let xorg manage it in memory
[12:01] <izzy_> ikonia: Why I explicitly mention the nvidia-xconfig: According to the package information, this one conflicts with nvidia-glx which I'm using.
[12:01] <soundray> \|\|raith: some linux wireless drivers have sensitivity issues where Windows drivers are okay. This is a typical problem when the free drivers have been written without proprietary internal knowledge of the wireless chipset.
[12:01] <ikonia> izzy_: why are you using nvidia-xconfig then
[12:01] <ikonia> izzy_: stop using it, install nvidia-glx package, remove xorg.conf and reboot
[12:02] <soundray> \|\|raith: I don't like to recommend ndiswrapper, but it's sometimes suitable to work around this type of problem
[12:02] <durififi> bonjour à tous
[12:02] <izzy_> ikonia: You ask me that? I don't know, it must have been installed with feisty (and that time not be in conflict). -- So you mean I should generally use the dynamic configuration?
[12:02] <bazhang> !fr | durififi
[12:03] <ikonia> izzy_: unless you have reason not to, let xorg deal with it. remove nvidia-xconfig, install nvidia-glx, remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf, reboot
[12:03] <izzy_> ikonia: And how to get rid of the "un" packages? When I try "apt-get remove" on them, apt simply tells me "it's not installed, so I don't remove".
[12:03] <shishirmk> does any 1 know how to setup a bluetooth lan
[12:03] <ikonia> izzy_: reboot and they will be fone
[12:03] <\|\|raith> soundray: do you reccommend sticking with 8.04 as opposed to earlier versions?
[12:03] <ikonia> gone
[12:04] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip, this will require vnc on ubuntu and the computer im going to connect from, right?
[12:04] <ed0n0n> does anyone know how to kill a proccess R+ ??
[12:04] <izzy_> ikonia, I will try that as soon as I'm back home on the machine (this evening). Thank you a lot for the hint and help!
[12:04] <ikonia> izzy_: no problem
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> yes, vncserver on server and some viewing app
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: its not encrypted though
[12:04] <soundray> \|\|raith: yes, downgrading is usually a bad deal (apart from being difficult, unless you do a fresh install of an older version)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: you could always forward x applications
[12:05] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: it is definiutely doing something different... still doing the update...
[12:05] <izzy_> ikonia, do you also have a hint on how to deal with the packages dpkg tells me are not installed, but the files still being around?
[12:05] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip, how can i do that?
[12:05] <ikonia> izzy_: they will be removed on reboot
[12:05] <g0tcha-> i just want to gui or X access to my ubuntu from home
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: check out ssh ;)
[12:05] <izzy_> ikonia, I already rebooted a couple of times.
[12:05] <soundray> ed0n0n: what's up with your earlier problem?
[12:05] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, when it is finished sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:05] <g0tcha-> well, ssh is all i do now hehe
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: yeah you can and you'll be using the apps as if you were sat at home
[12:05] <\|\|raith> soundray: are there any advantages to earlier versions of ubuntu? and I only do fresh installs
[12:06] <soundray> \|\|raith: I can't think of any concrete examples, but I think regressions with wireless drivers have occurred
[12:06] <AuContraire> I have been using gadmin-proftpd-0.3.0 for a while and now wondering when it will come out for 8.04 ?
[12:07] <soundray> \|\|raith: I'd definitely try ndiswrapper over downgrading, unless you have ethical concerns over using proprietary software
[12:07] <reel_> Hi all, is there a script that ensures that my box boots with a particular version of kernel even if newer ones are installed ? One that modifies grub's menu.lst to this effect ?
[12:07] <ed0n0n> soundray: I'm trying to go on with the upgrade and then fix the locale stuff. Now it has appeared again I cannot "jump" I cannot kill the process of localedef. I did kill the rest of locale procs and It has continued, but I'm too close to the end to start again
[12:07] <AgentHeX> reel_: why not just create a custom menu.lst and overwrite the autogenerated one whenever you run the update manager?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: try ssh -X username@servername
[12:08] <AuContraire> ssh -XC ...
[12:08] <soundray> ed0n0n: is it bug #249340 you're looking at?
[12:08] <reel_> Thanks AgentHeX, I think this should work for me.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> C just compresses the data
[12:09] <unop> reel_, or use the savedefault feaure of grub
[12:09] <AgentHeX> cool
[12:09] <AuContraire> ActionParsnip: yep
[12:09] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: why would it still fail on mediubuntu when those are commented out?
[12:09] <ed0n0n> soundray: Not at all, what is taht all about?
[12:09] <izzy_> ikonia, I'm just afraid that the left-over files will cause some trouble (since the package info is talking about a conflict). I was reading about "dpkg -r -a" - but from the man pages I'm not sure what this would really do (and I don't want to break even more ;)
[12:09] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:09] <loquitus_of_borg> Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:09] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, pastebin the latest iteration of sources please
[12:10] <almostdvs> i have a usb 250gb fat32 western digital "my passport" pocket hdd that won't mount..  any suggestions?
[12:10] <soundray> ed0n0n: upgrade hanging on locales -- sounds like the issue you're having
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> loquitus_of_borg: you need new repos
[12:10] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29934/
[12:10] <ed0n0n> soundray: I will tell  you all about, if you show me how to go on with the upgrade
[12:10] <AuContraire> ActionParsnip: Its good when: "Compression is desirable on modem lines and other slow connections, but will only slow down things on fast networks."
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: if you run sudo fdisk -l do you see it
[12:11] <db92> if my current gfx drivers screw up how can i "downgrade"? >>
[12:11] <AgentHeX> post kernel update, some of my apps are acting strange.  Tomboy Notes app caused an error when X loads and none of my tray apps load on startup (including the network manager).  firefox keeps asking me if i want to restore the session even when it gets closed properly.  it's also slow to load, and my bookmarks are gone.  HELP!
[12:11] <AuContraire> ActionParsnip: also depends on the UL/TX-speed of a link
[12:11] <almostdvs> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:11] <nooga> what is the best filesystem to setup 1.4TB partition?
[12:11] <izzy_> ed0n0n, I was having the same issues. Maybe you want to check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/249340 - a lot of people posted a lot of work-arounds
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: what is it called... /dev/?
[12:11] <AgentHeX> nooga: FAT16
[12:12] <nooga> ;p
[12:12] <soundray> ed0n0n: please look at the bug report yourself -- you're in a much better position than I am to diagnose the problems on your machine
[12:12] <almostdvs> "/dev/sdb1"
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: cool. ok
[12:12] <nooga> nah, FAT12 is even better
[12:12] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, comment out geexbox/debian repo and canonical repo then save and sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <izzy_> ubottu, what does "Triaged" mean? Didn't find it in any dictionary...
[12:12] <soundray> nooga: AgentHeX and nooga are joking, in case you hadn't noticed. Use ext3
[12:13] <nooga> soundray: gparted does not want to setup such bin ext3
[12:13] <shishirmk> how to bridge connections in ubuntu
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: sudo mkdir /mnt/passport; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/passport
[12:13] <soundray> nooga: is it giving you an error message?
[12:13] <AgentHeX> nooga: mke2fs -j /dev/sdXn
[12:13] <nooga> it says that it cannot setup partition of -1 lenght
[12:13] <AgentHeX> fdisk /dev/sdXn
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: mounts it to /mnt/passport. you can then open your favourite file browser (ROX, Nautilus, Thunar) and browse the files
[12:13] <r0wr> Yo
[12:14] <AgentHeX> nooga: fdisk /dev/sdXn
[12:14] <r0wr> Can someone help me out with installing Ventrilo on Ubuntu?
[12:14] <nooga> A partition cannot have a length of -1 sectors
[12:14] <r0wr> Please message me if you can help, it would be much appreciated.
[12:14] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Thanks for the link, It is right that. :D
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: any good?
[12:14] <soundray> r0wr: will it format it if you make it smaller, just for experiment's sake?
[12:14] <cr0w> the command for autoidentify in the iroffer for the configuration rows..which it is ?
[12:15] <izzy_> ed0n0n, you're welcome - I had that on two machines. Upgrade is through now - but still some issues left over (I don't think they have been caused by that ;)
[12:15] <soundray> r0wr: let's keep it in the channel, so others can chip in
[12:15] <r0wr> I don't understand what you are asking me, soundray
[12:15] <reel_> unop, savedefault will not do the job for me. I will not select the kernel that I want to boot. I simply want grub to boot _only_ a kernel that I specified.  I want hoping for a script that I could call : grub_set_script --always_boot "linux 2.6.22-15"
[12:15] <almostdvs> ActionParsnip: it says it's mounted but i don't see it in nautilus
[12:15] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip,  ok hold on
[12:15] <ed0n0n> izzy_: do you get the locales right after doing; sudo aptitude upgrade
[12:15] <san_> r0wr: maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[12:16] <soundray> r0wr: instead of a 1.4TB partition, try to setup a 700GB partition and see if you still get an error
[12:16] <shishirmk> Does any1 know how to bridge two diff connections in ubuntu
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: ok type mount, do you see it in there?
[12:16] <almostdvs> ActionParsnip: nevermind
[12:16] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I am speechless... why is still doing this: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:16] <loquitus_of_borg> Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/edgy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:16] <almostdvs> i found it
[12:16] <r0wr> san_: I've seen that page already, still confused.
[12:16] <cr0w> soundray
[12:16] <r0wr> I'm not exactly the best with Linux but I'm trying :).
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: you'll need to browse to it or you can now use: ln -s /mnt/passport ~/passport
[12:16] <unop> reel_, savedefault does just that -- at the grub menu select the kernel you would like, and grub remembers your choice from here on
[12:17] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, at this pace a fresh install will save you tons of time :)
[12:17] <soundray> r0wr: sorry, I take it all back
[12:17] <r0wr> I have Wine installed, Ventrilo installed and apparently people can hear me, but I can't hear them. And I don't know what the Libwine and what not is.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: you'll need that mount command to make it accessible each time so add the device to your fstab or make a script
[12:17] <r0wr> soundray: no problem
[12:17] <san_> r0wr: aww i see, we are all trying :) That was all i have cuz i didn't know about ventrilo before
[12:17] <izzy_> ed0n0n, see my posts there - at the end of the upgrade (the last locale generation) the process tells me all locales are up-to-date. Though, I did a final "apt-get dist-upgrade; dpkg --configure -a". Both looked like they got nothing left to do.
[12:17] <reel_> unop, even if new kernels are installed  ?
[12:17] <MaxthonFan> 044b?
[12:17] <cr0w> for the nickserv ...the command for autoidentify in the iroffer for the configuration rows..which it is ?
[12:17] <g0tcha-> how can you ssh using a different port? "ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>port" doesnt work
[12:17] <r0wr> san_: I see, it's all good bro.
[12:17] <bazhang> !ru | MaxthonFan
[12:17] <almostdvs> fstab??
[12:18] <MaxthonFan> 041e_043e
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | almostdvs
[12:18] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I know i know... but you must realize the amount of stuff I have on here... I am cringing at the thought of reinstalling this... that's going to suck my life for days. is there a reason this thing is still refeerring to mediubuntu?
[12:18] <bazhang> MaxthonFan, /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:18] <cr0w> #ubuntu-it
[12:18] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, you seem to be not saving the changes made
[12:18] <izzy_> ed0n0n, but if this answers your question in a better way: I've seen no issues with the locales so far now - and I'm not simply using "C", but de_DE@UTF-8 (which, I guess, would have problems if the locales would be corrupted)
[12:19] <cr0w> exist ubuntu-it ?
[12:19] <unop> reel_, yes, as long as  updatedefaultentry=false
[12:19] <DRebellion> !it | cr0w
[12:19] <r0wr> Anybody else know how to install Ventrilo and get it working??
[12:19] <bazhang> cr0w, yes; /j #ubuntu-it
[12:19] <cr0w> ok
[12:19] <cr0w> but..
[12:19] <cr0w> for the nickserv ...the command for autoidentify in the iroffer for the configuration rows..which it is ?
[12:19] <reel_> unop, thats nice. Thanks.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> r0wr: let me search
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !Ventrilo
[12:20] <cr0w> ubuntu-it.. they never do not speak..
[12:20] <RYNIEK> brb
[12:20] <ed0n0n> izzy_: I will try your FIX after finishing updgrade, It is shouting me with lots of warnings, and will have to change the locale after. Anyway it is better than reinstalling the system. Thank you ;)
[12:20] <almostdvs> ActionParsnip: what should i add to fstab?
[12:20] <r0wr> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[12:20] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then SAVE and sudo apt-get update
[12:20] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: this is literally all I have in that file now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29940/
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> !wine | r0wr
[12:21] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I just did a cat on the file after having saved it.
[12:21] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, can you install stuff?
[12:21] <g0tcha-> anyone? how to ssh to a different port other then 22 ?
[12:21] <izzy_> ed0n0n, you're welcome. -- btw: I missed the start of your thread. You are doing a dist-upgrade from gutsy? The locales have been setup before?
[12:21] <loquitus_of_borg> give me an example of something to install
[12:21] <r0wr> I have Wine installed already, Action.
[12:21] <bazhang> pastebinit loquitus_of_borg
[12:21] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29940/
[12:22] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Yes upgrading from gutsy. The locales where setup and working in eu_ES.UTF8
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: at the end add
[12:22] <r0wr> ActionParsnip: I have the program running and what not. I am connected to the server I want to be in. The only problem is getting sound out from the other end
[12:22] <\|\|raith> anyone here recommend easyubuntu or automatix for hardy?
[12:22] <unop> reel_, actually .. as per  man update-grub  it ought to be  updatedefaultentry=true to have grub remember your choice when a new kernel is installed
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> almostdvs: /dev/sdb1	/mnt/passport	vfat	defaults	0 0
[12:23] <elkbuntu> you dont need those anymore, \|
[12:23] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: yep... I installed nasm just now. with apt-get install nasm
[12:23] <soundray> \|\|raith: wherever you have those from is very outdated
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> r0wr: then i have no idea man, sorry
[12:23] <unop> !automatix | \|\|raith
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> r0wr: you could fine a linux alternative
[12:23] <reel_> unop, I see, okay.
[12:23] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[12:23] <r0wr> ActionParsnip: that will connect to another Ventrilo Server?
[12:23] <\|\|raith> yeah thats what I get for searching forums and not looking at the dates
[12:23] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip,  if my ssh port is 515, how can i use the ssh command to ssh using that port?
[12:23] <soundray> \|\|raith: :)
[12:24] <izzy_> ed0n0n, so expect they will work as well after the next reboot - provided the upgrade ran through (ignore the warnings for locales there - especially if you removed the execute bit from locale-gen to speed up the process), and the two final steps (apt-get dist-upgrade; dpkg --configure -a) have been applied after reboot *in a console window BEFORE logging in to X*.
[12:24] <|MUSE|> please could someone tell me how DeVeDe works? What is the differences to a Video DVD, VideoCD, Super VideoCD, CVD. Also does it convert to the correct formats?
 too complicated to type xD
[12:24] <soundray> g0tcha-: ssh -p 515 user@host
[12:24] <soundray> g0tcha-: man ssh
[12:24] <g0tcha-> thanks
[12:24] <reel_> unop, is it updatedefault=true or updatedefaultentry = true. Man page of update-grub says the former.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: ssh -X username@servername:515
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> log in as normal then run apps :D
[12:25] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit does not work... what do I do to use it?
[12:25] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Than you so much, You have saved me lots of time! :D :D :D
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> youmay want to use & on the end so you get control of your session back
 what about googling a Devede manual or faq ?
[12:25] <soundray> |MUSE|: this may not be the best forum for asking this. I would start at Wikipedia
[12:26] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, you installed pastebinit? sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:26] <|MUSE|> ok will do, again ;)
[12:26] <\|\|raith> anyone here run windows under linux and do you recommend virtualbox, vmware, etc?
[12:26] <izzy_> ed0n0n, I hope so :-) Don't forget to set the execute bit back to locale-gen *before* you reboot ;)
[12:26] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: yah already installed that
[12:26] <bazhang> \|\|raith, virtualbox
[12:26] <soundray> !virtualization | \|\|raith
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X-forwarding
[12:26] <jameslr> \|\|raith: VMWare is what I use. It's pretty good.
[12:27] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, you do it in the terminal and there is a url there to paste here
[12:27] <ed0n0n> izzy_: how do I put that bit back?
[12:27] <\|\|raith> jameslr: how does it compare with kvm?
[12:27] <unop> reel_, sorry updatedefault
[12:27] <ztec> hi
[12:27] <bazhang> hi ztec
[12:27] <soundray> \|\|raith: it's proprietary
[12:28] <jameslr> \|\|raith: I've never used KVM
[12:28] <\|\|raith> ubottu: why is kvm preferred over the others?
[12:28] <ztec> some one can help me about samba problem
[12:28] <izzy_> ed0n0n, this question lets me assume you did not remove it - so don't bother :) I did that since I did not want to wait 2 hours for each locale (not) being generated.
[12:28] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: you sure that is the syntax? I tried that and it said: usage: /usr/bin/pastebinit [filename|-] [URL]
[12:28] <loquitus_of_borg> Default pastebin: http://paste.stgraber.org
[12:28] <loquitus_of_borg> Version: 0.6
[12:28] <ztec> I don't arive to get de right config for one thing
[12:28] <Pici> \|\|raith: ubottu is a bot, its not going to answer you
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> loquitus_of_borg: if its in /usr/bin you dont ned to use full paths
[12:28] <Greyscale> jameslr, which of the vmware products was it that provided Unity for linux?
[12:28] <reel_> unop, okay. Thanks again.
[12:28] <Greyscale> Workstation? Server?
[12:29] <\|\|raith> I ask because I'd like to eventually stop multibooting and just run xp under linux for those applications that ubuntu doesnt have
[12:29] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: http://paste.stgraber.org/14382
[12:29] <jameslr> Greyscale: VMWare Workstation I think
[12:29] <zizou03> Why not consider wine instead?
[12:29] <Greyscale> zizou03, because even with 'Platinum' apps, it carks it
[12:29] <Greyscale> example: Dreamweaver runs one, then never again
[12:30] <loquitus_of_borg> ActionParsnip: I didn't use the full path. that's what it out put
[12:30] <izzy_> ed0n0n, and btw - it was not locale-gen but /usr/bin/localedef I changed - sorry for confusion.
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> dreamweaver runs under cedega / crossover
[12:30] <zizou03> Yea, that's not really what you want :p Work better on my mac though.. Not that I ever tried dreamweaver
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> loquitus_of_borg: ok cool
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !info bluefish | Greyscale
[12:30] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, what does sudo apt-get update return now? be sure there is not another sources.list (.d) in that path
[12:31] <Greyscale> used that once, hated it
[12:31] <ed0n0n> izzy_: upgrade has run "dpkg --configure -a" by itself
[12:31] <izzy_> ed0n0n, OK - than you should be done. Good luck with the boot - and hopefully everything is allright now!
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: thing is there are many alternatives instead of running windows apps in wine etc
[12:32] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: there is a sources.list.d directory in /etc/apt... should I get rid of it?
[12:32] <EminX> No sound on Ubuntu after playing flashplayer video ( like Youtube) the video stop every 2 sec, tried to install flashplayer 10 very hard, I spent more than 24 hours and can't solve it, disappointed, pls help
[12:32] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip, -X didnt do it
[12:32] <EminX> I'm new on Ubuntu
[12:32] <Greyscale> I don't mind proprietary applications on my opensource OS.
[12:32] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, comment out everything in it
[12:32] <Greyscale> As long as the core is free and open, I don't mind what happens in userspace
[12:32] <ed0n0n> izzy_:  Upgrade has finished. Should I reboot?  I tend to use fully open stuff but im not a big system user
[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: ok... no errors I think. just two W's... saying some duplicate sources.list stuff.
[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: now what
[12:34] <izzy_> ed0n0n, some day you will have to :) Honestly: The dist-upgrade brought you a newer kernel, an updated X and whatever else is loaded. To use the new kernel and X, you will need to reboot. Whether you want to do that now is up to you. It's not a bad idea, though ;)
[12:34] <bazhang> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade loquitus_of_borg
[12:34] <Greyscale> Is it wrong that I prefer Outlook 2007 to thunderbird?
[12:34] <bazhang> Greyscale, no, but offtopic here
[12:34] <ed0n0n> izzy_: You got good sense of humor :)
[12:34] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip, umm no :/
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: if you wanna run it thats your choice
[12:34] <g0tcha-> where can i read about it more?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha-: http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=FXe&q=x+forward+ssh&btnG=Search
[12:35] <izzy_> ed0n0n, thanks :) Must be my name ("Izzy" is short for "Itzchak", which means "he laughed")
[12:35] <EminX> No sound on Ubuntu after playing flashplayer video ( like Youtube) the video stop every 2 sec, tried to install flashplayer 10 very hard, I spent more than 24 hours and can't solve it, disappointed, pls help, I'm new on Ubuntu
[12:35] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: this might take a while... what will that last command do? will it get me to feisty?
[12:35] <Greyscale> ActionParsnip, Office 07's UI is better, I think. C'mon opensource, fire up the idea stealing machine for max win! :D
[12:35] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, with luck yes
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: I use webmail so i dont download any nasties to my system
[12:36] <Greyscale> If an idea is good, take it. If a company makes a better car, we buy it. If a country has better food, we copy it. :P
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: plus I can access my emails anywhere
[12:36] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: and then I do the same kind of thing to get to the next rung in the ladder?
[12:36] <ed0n0n> izzy_: I thought it was because things for you were easy/Izzy
[12:36] <Greyscale> ActionParsnip, I like having a local copy. I'm wierd.
[12:36] <g0tcha-> ActionParsnip, thanks
[12:36] <Greyscale> I still can grab my mail anywhere via either RDP or squirrelmail :P
[12:36] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, next step will be much easier
[12:36] <\|\|raith> alright I'm off to bed, thanx for the help guys, I'm sure you'll see me again
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: again, thats how you like it. I'm always online so to me it appears local
[12:36] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: as in that command i just issued will be the last of edgy... or do i need to do something more to get feisty?
[12:36] <izzy_> ed0n0n, would be great if that applied to the two problems I'm left with after the upgrade...
[12:37] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, that will bring feisty, planet alignment willing
[12:37] <Greyscale> I figure I'll get vmware because I currently RDP into a windows machine to do things that I can't under linux.
[12:37] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: aren't we positive :)
[12:37] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: easier why?
[12:37] <soundray> Greyscale: it doesn't seem like you need support?
[12:37] <bazhang> !equivalents | Greyscale check here
[12:37] <ed0n0n> izzy_: at least you were able to fix them by yourself, I could'nt even get trough the upgrade
[12:38] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I suppose I am trying to be optimistic that linux can be upgraded while those idiots in Redmond have no idea what an upgrade is.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: i can do everything natively in linux, chat, browse, amarok + XUL remote, pidgin and Urban terror
[12:38] <loquitus_of_borg> other than changing people hundreds of dollars for one
[12:38] <izzy_> ed0n0n, you are talking about another problem *with* the upgrade - I'm talking about 2 problems left *after* the upgrade...
[12:38] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, most of this trouble is your adding various thirdy party and very olde version repo sources.
[12:39] <Tm_T> loquitus_of_borg: keep your language in nice tone ;)
[12:39] <Greyscale> I could too, ActionParsnip, but I think in some cases, windows apps do it better. Getting these to work under wine painlessly would be epic win
[12:39] <AgentHeX> post kernel update, some of my apps are acting strange.  Tomboy Notes app caused an error when X loads and none of my tray apps load on startup (including the network manager).  firefox keeps asking me if i want to restore the session even when it gets closed properly.  it's also slow to load, and my bookmarks are gone.  HELP!
[12:39] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: if something breaks then, will it be something very critical, or some third party thing I added, you guess?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: indeed, the wine guys work hard
[12:39] <refa_cUt3> refa_cUt3
[12:39] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, likely both at this point; which why I say backup NOW before taking this step.
[12:39] <Greyscale> I wonder if anyone got Office 2007 to install under it..
[12:40] <ed0n0n> izzy_: I will see wich problems I get *after* upgrade, if my poor laptop restarts... It's got stuck in the end of the orange bar
[12:40] <Greyscale> Dreamweaver + Office 2007 and I'd be set.
[12:40] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, how do i configure tftp-hda? where lies it config file under ubuntu? i cant seem to find it.
[12:40] <izzy_> ed0n0n, 1: some issues with hal (plug-in some USB stick, try to mount it with the graphical interface - e.g. Konqueror - and see a message that it failed. Mount it manually (as user even), and it works).
[12:40] <_gAri-> is there any pax enabled ubuntu kernel?
[12:40] <Greyscale> And iTunes.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: i use abiword only. I dont make spreadsheets or databases or anythng
[12:40] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: worst case scenario and this fails... can't i get my data still if I boot a linux cd and mount the root partition? or will this nuke my data (potentially) if it fails?
[12:40]  * ActionParsnip spits at itunes
[12:40] <bazhang> Greyscale, getting pretty far offtopic here
[12:41] <Greyscale> bazhang, Computing using proprietary software under wine ontop of Ubuntu
[12:41] <izzy_> ed0n0n, you've seem to hit #2 - wait about 20..30 sec, it probably starts then.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Greyscale: technically this is a support channel
[12:41] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, no idea as those should have broken your system long before.
[12:42] <ed0n0n> izzy: it is hanged up, cannot even  ALT+CTRL+F1
[12:42] <bazhang> Greyscale, support not chat.
[12:42] <izzy_> ed0n0n, After the orange bar, I get a black screen for 20..30 seconds (with the last boot message). When I already think all is broken, X comes up. As soon as I log out, X crashes - and nothing helps but a reboot.
[12:42] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: remember  the old  adage, data you haven't backed up is data you don't want
[12:42] <coz_> soundray,  sound advice
[12:42] <coz_> soundray,  or   if I cannot install at any given moment I am doing something wrong
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> soundray: I agree. sound advice. my quesiton still stands. can an upgrade make my data inaccessible? I thought that I could always boot a linux cd and mount the ext3 drive, in the worst case scenario.
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> knowing this does not mean I will take stupid chances, of course.
[12:43] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, only way to know is try; we have asked you to upgrade, so fair warning
[12:44] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: probably, yes. There are operations, however, that can make your partitions inaccessible if there's e.g. a power cut at precisely the wrong moment
[12:44] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: like partition resizing
[12:44] <lalala> Installed ubuntu today, and everything works great... then suddenly after 3-4 hours the audio is gone...any educated guesses what has happened?
[12:44] <bazhang> err backup loquitus_of_borg
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lalala: did you update?
[12:44] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Staring up... Croos my fingers...
[12:44] <bazhang> lalala, check alsamixer in terminal and make sure nothing is muted
[12:44] <Starcraftmazter> Hello, how can I take a screenshot, when I have a menu open? Say a firefox bookmark menu, or a ubuntu menu from the top
[12:44] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I intend to do so actually before I go through with this... again... the reason I ask all this is so I understand better.
[12:45] <izzy_> ed0n0n, good luck! Let me know what happens :)
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> lalala: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:45] <loquitus_of_borg> I am trying to realize here if it is even possible for a software update to make my drive inaccessiable. I don't see that being possible.
[12:45] <ed0n0n> izzy_: All [OK] !!
[12:45] <Twinkletoes|W> I foolishly deleted the contents of /var/cache, but now apt-get is refusing to run because of missing directories and files etc.  Is there a way of telling apt-get to re-init?
[12:45] <loquitus_of_borg> I have in fact stopped the upgrade for now
[12:45] <izzy_> ed0n0n, Congratulations!
[12:45] <soundray> Starcraftmazter: have you tried the PrintScreen key?
[12:45] <qt-x> hy all
[12:45] <lalala> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll try
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi qt-x
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi | qt-x
[12:45] <Starcraftmazter> soundray: yeh, it doesn't do anything if I have a menu open
[12:45] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Screen is gone mad !
[12:45] <qt-x> is ther a list with voice command for Gnome-Voice-Control ?
[12:46] <izzy_> ed0n0n, what graphics adapter? Maybe it messed up the X config (as I assume for my machines as well)
[12:46] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: what will I do once this step succeeds, to move to the next rung?
[12:46] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Graphics ATI X700 128Mb
[12:47] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, lets face that when this is done.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> qt-x: id disable it and watch some youtub evids
[12:47] <CarlFK> anyone know heard of this bug:  Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg  - modprobe ath_pci  - [  700.617071] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)
[12:47] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I ask this since I won't do this right away and might want to know, assuming the planets align
[12:47] <soundray> Starcraftmazter: I see. Try xwd with the -root option. You can add a delay to give you time to open the menu. E.g. 'sleep 3 ; xwd -root >screenshot.xwd'
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: can you get any network connectivity from any interface?
[12:48] <izzy_> ed0n0n, maybe I pass you the recommendation ikonia gave me: remove (or better rename) the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startup without it (to let X manage its configuration dynamically). For me it was nVidia adapters that cause trouble.
[12:48] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: yes - I am sshed into the box over a usb-wifi stick.  the Atheros is the built in
[12:48] <soundray> Starcraftmazter: you will have to convert the .xwd file to something more common, like png, with the Gimp or similar
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: can you get system updates?
[12:48] <ed0n0n> izzy_: I will right now, and then reboot
[12:48] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: yes.  thats what broke it a few weeks ago :)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: what architecture you running?
[12:49] <soundray> Starcraftmazter: if all else fails, use a digital camera ;)
[12:49] <izzy_> ed0n0n, you must be root for that - e.g. "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bak"
[12:49] <isaacj87> hey all, I'm blanking here...how does one change the parenthesis part of this: isaac@(isaac-laptop)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: 32bit or 64bit?
[12:49] <isaacj87> I can't even remember what is it called
[12:49] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: i386-generic
[12:49] <CarlFK> 32
[12:50] <Starcraftmazter> soundray: where does the file get placed?
[12:50] <soundray> Starcraftmazter: in the current directory, if you have write permissions. Type 'pwd' to display it
[12:50] <loquitus_of_borg> thanks all of you... for the help :)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: tried madwifi?
[12:50] <loquitus_of_borg> especially soundray and especially bazhang
[12:50] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: tried in what way?
[12:50] <isaacj87> ah..the hostname, how does one change the hostname
[12:50] <soundray> loquitus_of_borg: yw
[12:50] <Starcraftmazter> soundray: sweet thanks, it works
[12:51] <ed0n0n> izzy_: My broadcom wifi driver also got old, it tells me to upgrade firmware
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: install it via apt-get / aptitude etc
[12:51] <izzy_> ed0n0n, that's beyond my knowledge - never used wifi on my workstations...
[12:51] <lalala> bazhang: alxamixer says everything is ok
[12:51] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: ah - didn't know there was a separate package
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: did you use sudo modprobe ath_pci
[12:52] <lalala> ActionParsnip: updated and upgraded, still no audio
[12:52] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: yep
[12:52] <ed0n0n> izzy_: dont worry for that, its just a upgarde issue
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> lalala: what sound card do you have?
[12:52] <izzy_> ed0n0n, looks like you already have a clue - good!
[12:53] <lalala> ActionParsnip: dont even know, was so happy when ubuntu just discovered it on its own, and gave me sound ;)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> lalala: run lspci and copy just the line for you sound in here?
[12:53] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: in answer to ugrade: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade = 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> lalala: do not paste the whole thing
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: sudo apt-get install madwifi
[12:54] <ed0n0n> izzy_: X is also running with default values
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: try tab completing madwifi so you get it right
[12:54] <CarlFK> E: Couldn't find package madwifi
[12:54] <CarlFK> oh...
[12:54] <CarlFK> yay - Selecting previously deselected package madwifi-tools.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: it says reboot in a walthrough i got that off
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: then try modprobing
[12:55] <lalala> ActionParsnip: read through the list, and it lists everything BUT my sound card... it's integrated into my laptop, but should still show up right?
[12:55] <san_> :O
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> lalala: yes
[12:55] <izzy_> ed0n0n, so after the last boot (w/o xorg.conf) screen is no longer messed up?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> lalala: look for the word audio
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !paste | lalala
[12:56] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip:   ill reboot - [  975.789129] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware didn't respond as expected' (HAL status 3)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> lalala: put it all in there if you want
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: i think you gotta reboot
[12:56] <lalala> ActionParsnip: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:56] <ed0n0n> izzy_:  I get 800x600 but at least I can read the screen
[12:56] <Vezir> ActionParsnip  i got it to work again! one problem though, i can't go to 1600x1200 now. just 1280x960. if i go higher i get screwed up stuff in the background and it only uses 1280x960 space
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !ich | lalala
[12:57] <izzy_> ed0n0n, well - that's something. AFAIK there comes a special configuration tool with ATI drivers as well - so you could setup your card using that?
[12:57] <ndo> Hi Ladies and Genleman. :D I've got an interesting question. my external HD is formatted in FAT32 to be usable on OSX,M$,and Linux. But now ive encountered a maximum filesize problem. 4i believe on FAT32. So i need an other file system, that ill be able to read and/or write on all 3 systems. Any suggestions on the fly? and ty! :)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !hda
[12:58] <TiredWolf> ndo, windows can use ext2/3 with third party filesystem drivers. i guess mac os too...
[12:58] <jameslr> ndo: NTFS
[12:58] <san_> lol
[12:59] <qt-x> ActionParsnip 10x
[12:59] <izzy_> ndo, with Linux now having good read/write support for NTFS, this might be an option.
[12:59] <san_> can anyone make ubottu speak ?
[12:59] <ed0n0n> izzy_: downloading ATI propietary driver. Didn't use it before, but need it Asap
[12:59] <ndo> TiredWolf: mac os also with third party drivers i guess?:)
[12:59] <lalala> ActionParsnip: was the !ich lalala for me...was unknown by the bots...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> lalala: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:59] <ndo> jameslr, jizzy_: but what about macand htfs?:)
[12:59] <lalala> ActionParsnip: thanks =)
[13:00] <izzy_> ed0n0n, downloading means you want to install manually - or you are using the "restricted drivers" install from Ubuntu?
[13:00] <ndo> ntfs*
[13:00] <ndo> izzy*
[13:00] <ndo> :)
[13:00] <jameslr> ndo: I think Mac can read NTFS no probs, not sure about writing to it
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Vezir: you need to edit xorg.conf to get the resolutions
[13:00] <TiredWolf> ndo: well i'm not really sure, mac os has a BSD core so perhaps ext3 is even available natively, i haven't the slighest idea really. but i think it really has to be readily available given all the posixness
[13:00] <ed0n0n> izzy_: Restricted for now. Once it works, will go back to glx
[13:00] <jameslr> ndo: I think it does support writes though. Why must you be able to write with all 3 OSes?
[13:01] <izzy_> ndo, MacOS is AFAIK based on some BSD variant. You may check if ntfs-3g is available there as well.
[13:01] <Danker> Hi
[13:01] <Danker> Who could be this man? http://www.sysadminday.lt/attachments/Image/Who_is_who/who10.jpg
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !hi Danker
[13:01] <Pici> !ot | Danker
[13:02] <izzy_> ed0n0n, ok - sounds reasonable. At least worked in previous versions of Ubuntu. With a fresh install of the driver, you should have luck.
[13:02] <ed0n0n> I thought it would be more straight forward, this update proccess, but it lacks of a clear easy to use
[13:02] <nooga> i've managed to set 1.4TB ext3 partition on my raid uwzing fdisk
[13:02] <jameslr> ndo: what are you storing on the drive that is so large? DVD iso?
[13:02] <nooga> it's formated and everything
[13:03] <nooga> but i can't mount it
[13:03] <nooga> it's also not visible in computer://
[13:03] <izzy_> ed0n0n, it was for gutsy (went straight through from feisty). Unfortunately it's a bit messed up for gutsy2hardy. No idea why - it#s a quite complex issue...
[13:03] <ndo> Question "why i must ne able to write with all 3 OSes?" Euhm, cuz im dual booting on my mac mini with osx/ubuntu, and if i go to my friend('s) with this disk ill also be happy to be able to copy him some of the Christian movies i have on it. So he watches them and sees the light! ;)
[13:04] <ndo> jameslr: VirtualBox .dvi hard disk image
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ndo: fat32 then or NTFS if you mount it in Linux with ntfs-3g
[13:04] <ed0n0n> I hope it gets easyer for next time. I'm not upgrading my little server, too risky
[13:04] <jameslr> ndo: i'd go with NTFS personally.
[13:05] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: [   56.416858] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)
[13:05] <izzy_> ed0n0n, I have to upgrade my server soon (it's still running dapper, the last LTS, and thus will run out of support if I do not upgrade)
[13:05] <ndo> okey guys, ty, ill go surf for some info on what and how :) and which os supports wich fs :)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: id have a look see what the code means
[13:06] <jameslr> ndo: another option is: burn the Christian movies to DVD...novel idea.
[13:06] <ed0n0n> izzy_: I have gutsy in my server so, I still got more time ;)
[13:07] <ndo> jameslr: to many :D i guess i got to get BluRay drive :)
[13:07] <ndo> jameslr: altrough its to early, the dont have blurays yet :)
[13:07] <jameslr> ndo: there are bluray burners
[13:07] <gjut> Hi, I just wanted say (for those who were here two days ago) that I managed to setup my xubuntu eventualiy, by reinstalling.
[13:07] <ndo> jameslr: i mean friends:)
[13:07] <izzy_> ed0n0n, I can upgrade from dapper to hardy directly - in order to bring it to gutsy, it would require me 3 upgrades (egdy-feisty-gutsy) - and for a server, I want a LTS version since it is not at home but housed at my provider -- I don't always have the time to go there for upgrades ;)
[13:08] <Krazy-H> http://www.bloodhackers.com/Welcome-To-The-Sanctuary-Of-BloodhackerS-Team
[13:08] <jameslr> seems funny - pirating christian movies...
[13:08] <Krazy-H> check it out
[13:08] <Pici> Krazy-H: Please don't advertise websites here.
[13:09] <Krazy-H> OK :D
[13:09] <Krazy-H> Sorry
[13:09] <ed0n0n> izzy_: At least you don't use any Graphical Desktop, or Wi.Fi card
[13:09] <clarezoe> hi, anyone can help me? my microphone can be detected and seems working in audacity, but no sound can be captured
[13:10] <izzy_> ed0n0n, that's right - but I may still have the issue with the locales (for which we have the work-around, so it should not be that big problem)
[13:10] <insomniac_> hi everyone
[13:10] <genik> hi sir
[13:11] <insomniac_> i am new here
[13:11] <AuContraire> How to join ubuntuforums.org ?
[13:11] <gjut> Apparently the installation of nvidia-glx-legacy requires a manual fix, by inserting the vert and horiz referesh rates into the xorg.conf. Very hard to guess, but after that it works.
[13:11] <ed0n0n> izzy_: My locales are Ok now, even the Graphics, just need to updgrade the wifi fimware and that will be done!
[13:12] <insomniac_> i want to share my problems regarding ubuntu...anyone..?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gjut: yeah i noticed that. very annoying
[13:12] <Viper111> C complier cannt create excutables???
[13:12] <The-Compiler> !ask | insomniac_
[13:12] <AuContraire> insomniac_: sure... go ahead
[13:12] <TiredWolf> !build-essential ½ Viper111
[13:12] <Pici> Viper111: Install the build-essential metapackage
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Viper111: they create a.out by default
[13:12] <TiredWolf> !build-essential | Viper111
[13:12] <jameslr> gjut: lol everything has gotten so easy nowdays. X used to *require* Vert and Horiz refresh rates
[13:12] <izzy_> ed0n0n, sounds good!
[13:12] <cr0w> for the nickserv ...the command for autoidentify in the iroffer for the configuration rows..which it is ?
[13:12] <genik> hi, is it possible to hide your IP here
[13:12] <TiredWolf> !cloak | genik
[13:13] <TiredWolf> genik: (ask in #freenode for details)
[13:14] <Pici> cr0w: I'm not sure I understand your question, but it differs from one irc network to the enxt.
[13:14] <cr0w> pici ?
[13:14] <Pici> cr0w: *to the next
[13:14] <TiredWolf> !identify | cr0w
[13:15] <cr0w> i have a problem with a iroffer configuration
[13:15] <ndo> i guess best solution would be NTFS, i can setup ntfs3g on both systems (osx and ubuntu), and if go somewhere in most cases it will be m$.
[13:15] <gjut> Since I'm up and running, can anyone recommend a happy mps/audio player for xubuntu with 192MB RAM?
[13:15] <gjut> xfce
[13:16] <jameslr> gjut: xmms?
[13:17] <erlend_> ActionParsnip:  ok, update on my audio problem... thought the problem was no audio, but when ppl log in and out of msn, I still get the sound. So no sound in browser, and in none of the audio-programs is the new problem :S
[13:17] <ksvladimir> Is there any way to determine current power consumption on a laptop with amd processor ?
[13:17] <gjut> jameslr: is that the same as xmms2?
[13:17] <jameslr> gjut: yep
[13:17] <gjut> ok. got a bit confused there
[13:18] <gjut> The setup is for my dad, 78 yrs
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> erlend_: then modify the audio device they use
[13:18] <genikru> p
[13:18] <jameslr> gjut: you could upgrade his memory :P
[13:18] <gjut> LOL
[13:18] <ndo> hmm, is it possible to use UDF on an HD, anyone?:)
[13:18] <gjut> yeah, he won't remember it
[13:19] <jameslr> ndo: UDF?? isn't that packet writing for CDs?
[13:19] <ndo> jameslr: yes, something to do with cd's:)
[13:19] <jameslr> ndo: I doubt it.
[13:19] <erlend_> what's the command to list all running processes?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !udf
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !info udf
[13:20] <san_> jeje
[13:20] <gjut> will it support mp3 out-of-the-box?
[13:20] <TiredWolf> erlend_: ps
[13:20] <erlend_> TiredWolf: ty
[13:20] <TiredWolf> erlend_: ps aux will list all processes in a detailed way, or you can use top
[13:20] <jameslr> gjut: get the gstreamer or pulse audio plugins for it and it should.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> gjut: you'll need to install the decoder
[13:20] <ndo> jameslr: as i tough :)
[13:21] <gjut> from synaptic?
[13:21] <ZeroA4> gjut, install Ubuntu Restrited Extras should do
[13:21] <oiaohm> UDF is a common format.
[13:21] <jameslr> ndo: there's no perfect solution for you. NTFS is a hack
[13:21] <oiaohm> Found on dvd and larger.
[13:21] <gjut> Hi, ActionParsnip
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> hi gjut
[13:21] <plast1k> hi
[13:21] <ndo> jameslr: yep:)
[13:21] <The-Compiler> hi plast1k
[13:22] <erlend_> ActionParsnip: working well now, was a hidden program that conflicted with the audio =)
[13:22] <jameslr> ndo: ideally there would be a filesystem that is independent of the operating system that is supported on all operating systems. *NEVER* going to happen...
[13:22] <jameslr> because every OS vendor thinks theirs is the best.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> erlend_: sweet move :D
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> erlend_: id have rebooted to see if it sorted it out before trying stuff
[13:23] <jameslr> Linux has ext, Mac has UFS/HFS, Windoze has NTFS...
[13:23] <erlend_> ActionParsnip: will do, later =)
[13:23] <ndo> jameslr: usually there is one, kind of FAT32 ;) but.. lilbit to old for now
[13:23] <The-Compiler> jameslr: there are ext-drivers for windows tho
[13:23] <Luhta> Does anyone know if there is an another driver besides 177.13 that supports the Geforce 280 GTX? the existing one seems to be the cause of stability problems
[13:23] <gjut> and for wmv video files, what is the codec?
[13:23] <jameslr> The-Compiler: yes, but they're all hacks. Not supported by the OS officially.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> geforce 280GTX?
[13:24] <Luhta> yes
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> just checking
[13:24] <kindofabuzz> OT but good interview with Linus: http://www.simple-talk.com/opinion/geek-of-the-week/linus-torvalds,-geek-of-the-week/
[13:24] <jameslr> ndo: the only thing I would use FAT32 on is a usb pen drive.
[13:25] <unop> i would still use NTFS on a pen drive
[13:25] <ndo> jameslr: what do u mean?i mean why?:)
[13:25] <Luhta> unop, hmm I don't know that you'd really want to do that, suppose the power goes out, it's time to format the stick
[13:25] <ZeroA4> gjut, there is some GSTreamer packs ... they have the codecs... them wmv should play on totem ... other option is VLC a player that does not need external codecs to play wmv
[13:26] <Luhta> Does anyone know if there is an another driver besides 177.13 that supports the Geforce 280 GTX? the existing one seems to be the cause of stability problems
[13:26] <CShadowRun> when i click the firefox logo on gnome-panel, i get a window with the title "error", the window doesn't have any text. I have to killall gnome-panel to get my panel back.
[13:26] <jameslr> ndo: FAT32 is old as hell, but it still has its uses. If you don't need ACLs or security or large file support - FAT32 is a fast file system.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: id install nvidia-glx package
[13:26] <jameslr> good for pen drives
[13:26] <unop> Luhta, that's ok - i don;t really mind doing that, I keep backups
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: or envyng-gtx
[13:26] <jameslr> journalling filesystems on a pen drive degrade their life
[13:26] <gjut> ZeroA4: thanks
[13:26] <ndo> jameslr: k:)
[13:26] <unop> Luhta, but like the power ever goes off here? hardly ever
[13:27] <Luhta> ActionParsnip, that won't work, they changed their naming scheme with the nvidia card line, it's not as old as it sounds it's actually the new one
[13:27] <erlend_> ActionParsnip: like clock work : ) ty
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: then nvidia-glx-new
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> erlend_: sweet D:
[13:27] <Luhta> it's not in that one yet
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> :D
[13:27] <unop> Luhta, if you were asking why i'd use NTFS - it's simple, compression
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: id try them and see which is good, theres always the one from www.nvidia.com
[13:28] <aliquando> Hi
[13:28] <aliquando> Bonjour
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !hi | aliquando
[13:28] <Luhta> ActionParsnip, the one from nvidia.com is the only one that works, I'm trying to find an alternative to it if there's one that exists
[13:28] <Luhta> the 200 series hasn't made it into nvidia-glx-new yet
[13:28] <kindofabuzz> is there any advantages from using NVIDIA's driver from there site to just using ubuntu's restricted driver?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: you may have to wait a bit then
[13:29] <Luhta> kindofabuzz, for me there is as my card is only supported there
[13:29] <aliquando> I am a newbie on linux OS but I would like to use Xdmx, anyone can help me?
[13:29] <hatter_> OMG !  my system just start disk thrashing then i couldnt move the mouse for ten minutes !!!!
[13:29] <kindofabuzz> well my card is supported both places so just wondering
[13:29] <hatter_> how do i stop this ?  what makes the disk thrashing ?
[13:30] <Luhta> ActionParsnip, I was hoping you wouldn't say that I finally got away from MS but this card is pulling at me to play stuff ><
[13:30] <AuContraire> HELLO UBUNTU PEOPLE: Is there a way to join the ubuntuforums ?
[13:30] <jameslr> hatter_: check your process list
[13:30] <hatter_> jameslr, , i did
[13:30] <coz_> AuContraire,  you have to register on the forums
[13:30] <hatter_> jameslr, i dont know what process was doing it
[13:30] <kindofabuzz> man Deluge is pissing me off with this so called release candidate..eats all the memory
[13:30] <jameslr> hatter_: so it's not doing it anymore?
[13:30] <The-Compiler> AuContraire: of course there is
[13:30] <hatter_> jameslr, no its stopped
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: i understand your frustrations but nvidia drivers dont seem to work too well with bleeding edge technology
[13:31] <TemplePRime> I have installed the latest jdk in a custom directory under ubuntu 8.04, how do I set it so the whole system uses it?
[13:31] <Father> hi all
[13:31] <hatter_> it made the whole system bogged down
[13:31] <s_spiff> AuContraire: http://ubuntuforums.org/register.php
[13:31] <hatter_> impossible to use
[13:31] <gRb> mp3
[13:31] <jameslr> hatter_: then there really isn't anything you need to do to stop it now right?
[13:31] <Flo__> yo
[13:31] <erlend_> anyone here that has any experience with Wireshark?
[13:31] <plast1k_> elooo
[13:31] <hatter_> jameslr, no, i dont want it to happen again
[13:31] <jameslr> erlend_: yeah
[13:31] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, the nvidia driver supports 3D and dual-head on a single card... the opensource nv has better support for FrameBuffer ando Xrandr
[13:31] <Father> i have a Q if anyone can help me
[13:31] <Father> ?
[13:31] <Luhta> -nod- I'll just wait it out then
[13:31] <spanker> does anybody know how to set up an ATI 1650pro in 8.04?
[13:31] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: Maybe this can be much clearer to the casual visitors? ...
[13:31] <AuContraire> Thanks btw
[13:32] <erUSUL> spanker: System>Admin>Harware Drivers
[13:32] <erlend_> jameslr: nice...how long must I gather to have enough into to work with?
[13:32] <spanker> done that
[13:32] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: so for games I want NVIDIA's?  reg use just use the restricted?
[13:32] <jameslr> erlend_: depends on what you need to know.
[13:32] <The-Compiler> AuContraire: the first word on the site is "register", but nvm ;)
[13:32] <nooga> I created new partition using fdisk, all i kno it's /dev/sda1 and ext3, what should i add to /etc/fstab to get it mounted?
[13:32] <spanker> but the system keeps hanging when i start the driver...
[13:32] <jameslr> erlend_: what type of traffic are you monitoring? have you set up your filters so that you don't get a lot of garbage?
[13:32] <moDumass> evening, i have mashed my ubuntu in a bad way
[13:32] <TemplePRime> erm, guys ... I installed JDK from the Sun's site in my custom home directory and am interested on how the hell would I use it instead of that damned gcj since I wanna use it for the whole system!
[13:32] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, yes for 3D games you need nvidia driver...
[13:32] <unop> !fstab > nooga
[13:33] <moDumass> my nas is gone and its taking like 20 minutes to boot
[13:33] <ndo> could Gparted convert fat32 to ntfs or..?
[13:33] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: thanks buddie
[13:33] <nooga> thx
[13:33] <prymal> father: what do you need?
[13:33] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, you are wellcome
[13:33] <Father> i need to download up dates for ubuntu but my other system cant connect to the internet
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Luhta: keep your ear to the ground man
[13:33] <lusepuster> Hello - I need to add a user to a group, but the graphical tool is for some reason irresponive. How do I do this from the command line?
[13:33] <Father> is it possible
[13:33] <Father> ?
[13:33] <erlend_> jameslr: getting 85% crap... I am using my neighbour's net, (I'm allowed to, we have an agreement) but now he's gone for 6 weeks and I have reset everything...
[13:33] <TemplePrime> lusepuster adduser
[13:33] <Luhta> ActionParsnip, that's the plan
[13:34] <hatter_> jameslr, doh. it was my fault.  i started a vm that had the same memory allocation as what is in the system... doh !
[13:34] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: No, its not if you get there by googling something and land there.
[13:34] <jameslr> lusepuster: usermod -g groupname username
[13:34] <TemplePrime> lusepuster: sudo adduser
[13:34] <gjut> I installed xmms2 but it won't show in my xfce menu. How do I refresh it?
[13:34] <erlend_> jameslr: the cpu is on, so itæs probably sending
[13:34] <lusepuster> jameslr, TemplePrime , thanks...
[13:34] <jameslr> erlend_: I'm not following
[13:35] <prymal> Father: why can't you get on the net with the other machine?
[13:35] <erlend_> jameslr: sorry.. I need the network password, and I figure since his cpu is on, the password is sent in the packages... I get to gather those :S
[13:35] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: Oh!!! Its that NON_UNDERLINED and small caption "register" ?
[13:36] <AuContraire> Please add an underline/score
[13:36] <Father> well i have 2 laptops
[13:36] <The-Compiler> AuContraire: its not my forum :D
[13:36] <Father> both acer
[13:36] <jameslr> woops it was usermod -G group user...not -g
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Father: !aptcd
[13:36] <jameslr> he left though
[13:36] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: granted but id like to clear up some newbie mistakes as i see them.
[13:36] <Father> and when i installed it everything was great
[13:36] <jameslr> erlend_: sorry I won't help with password sniffing.
[13:37] <Father> but i ran into some errors
[13:37] <prymal> specifically?!
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Father: what errors?
[13:37] <erlend_> jameslr: kk, thanks...I respect that... crap, have to go 6 weeks without net :S
[13:37] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: What are you compilin btw ?
[13:37] <Pici> !enter | Father
[13:37] <Father> it detects all my hardware
[13:38] <Father> and then tell me to connect to the online
[13:38] <jameslr> erlend_: there are worse things. And if you need internet that badly - go to the public library :P
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Father: have you installed acer_hk
[13:38] <The-Compiler> AuContraire: nothing atm :P
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !acerhk
[13:38] <Father> acer_hk/
[13:38] <Father> ?
[13:38] <TiredWolf> what's the choice of picture viewers in kde? you can spare me the ones that show up with apt-cache search image viewer, as i'm already aware of those ;) but is there anything else?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !info acerhk
[13:39] <Father> i dont know what that is
[13:39] <erlend_> jameslr: not gonna argue with you there ;)
[13:39] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: Ive been on the compilings for a few years so holler if you need any pleh :=)
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Father: acer use garbage propietary hardware. somebody made a module you need to make acers work well
[13:39] <amenado> Father use a cat5 connection vs a wireless
[13:39] <iron> hi
[13:39] <Father> ooooooh
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Father: what acer do you have?
[13:40] <moDumass> hey all, how do i restart samba
[13:40] <Father> dam but390
[13:40] <AuContraire> The-Compiler: lfs is neat btw
[13:40] <TiredWolf> moDumass: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[13:40] <Father> 3690
[13:40] <jameslr> moDumass: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[13:40] <moDumass> or awesomeness, thanks
[13:40] <prymal> Father - hardwire your laptop to the net, grab your updated drivers etc as you should get "generic" drivers running by default that will allow you on the net via cat 5
[13:40] <amenado> !who | Father
[13:41] <ndo> anyone some knowledge on how to convert FAT32 to NTFS without windoze?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Father: yep its a broadcom. You need to install ndiswrapper
[13:41] <headc4se> good morning everyone
[13:41] <jameslr> ndo: you can't. Must have windows convert command
[13:41] <Father> yes
[13:42] <TiredWolf> !info convertfs | ndo, dangerous
[13:42] <moDumass> hmm, that didnt fix it, i had 2 seprate hdds from a nas mounted on my deskyop, and somehow they now are gone
[13:42] <jameslr> ndo: unless you have some third party utility like Partition Magic or the like
[13:42] <moDumass> any ideas would be awesome
[13:42] <TiredWolf> uhm, it does exist afaik
[13:42] <izzy_> ndo, not sure whether this can be done with gparted (you may want to check)
[13:42] <The-Compiler> hi headc4se (its 3 pm here tho =)
[13:42] <Father> ActionParsnip: thats what that ting said
[13:42] <headc4se> i wish it was 3pm here, means i would almost be outta work
[13:42] <TiredWolf> what's the choice of picture viewers in kde? you can spare me the ones that show up with apt-cache search image viewer, as i'm already aware of those ;) but is there anything else?
[13:43] <prymal> !Father have you managed to get the machine connecteD?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Father: so connect with a wire and get it sorted, then use wireless if you want
[13:43] <prymal> Father: have you managed to get the machine connecteD?
[13:43] <ndo> i expected that partition magic would do it (have hirens cd here) but i was asking myself if gparted would be able todo it :)
[13:43] <Father> ActionParsnip: there is one problem
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> ?
[13:44] <headc4se> ndo: are you talking about without destroying any existing data? or wiping a partition clean?
[13:44] <jameslr> ndo: No, gparted can't convert filesystems with data intact
[13:44] <izzy_> I've got a problem with packages (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/29960/): dpgk says they are unknown and not installed - but they still seem to be there. Since some of them would conflict with other packages I use, I guess they are cause of some trouble I see. Any idea of how to clean them up?
[13:44] <ZeroA4> Father, ActionParsnip i got the Broadcom 4318 wifi card from my acer working with the package b43-fwcutter... i think it mey be easier as it does not need windows drivers
[13:44] <ndo> ofc without destroying data:)
[13:44] <headc4se> haha, just checking...that does make it a bit tougher
[13:44] <jameslr> ndo: it can create ntfs partition though.
[13:44] <Father> its not my network
[13:44] <izzy_> ndo, gparted (as well as qparted) are simply graphical frontends to parted
[13:44] <jameslr> exactly
[13:45] <headc4se> not sure if it matters, i'm personally a backup data and recreate partition kinda guy
[13:45] <Father> im pigybacking
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Father: you should be able to use the stuff on the Ubuntu CD and the driver on your driver cd
[13:45] <izzy_> ndo, I'm not sure if parted can do this - it was just the first coming to my mind ;)
[13:45] <jameslr> ndo: best free solution is to use a windows machine to convert it to NTFS.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Father: but you need WWW to get sorted ideally
[13:45] <ndo> so, if i want without destroying data only convert, or partition magic tomb?:)
[13:46] <moDumass> and they are back
[13:46] <amenado> Father  piggybacking with permission or otherwise ?
[13:46] <moDumass> its fantastic
[13:46] <ndo> tomb*
[13:46] <Father> with permission
[13:46] <ndo> to mb*
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> ndo: reformat and then restore from backup
[13:46] <Father> dont get me wrong im far from hacker
[13:46] <Ganandorf> hi goo dday is bazhang here by any chance
[13:46] <jameslr> ActionParsnip: that's silly. Why would he do that if he can do it live in Windows without loss of data?
[13:46] <Ganandorf> he was helping me last time
[13:47] <headc4se> ndo: i'm with Action on this one...safest way i would think
[13:47] <Wulfie> hey folks.  I am trying to mount a mac/windows disc in Ubuntu (hardy) and it seems to be mounting the MAC image and not the windows one.  Any ideas how to get that switched?
[13:47] <amenado> Father then you can piggyback it to the connected laptop..make the other working laptop as a gateway
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> jameslr: its just a suggestion
[13:47] <ndo> huh, easy to say, if its the biggest drive i have:)
[13:47] <amenado> Father as wired now, not a wireless
[13:47] <Father> wirless
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ndo: so what if the drive failed? where can you get the data from agin?
[13:47] <jameslr> I'm not saying backing up your data isn't a good idea, but the convert utility in windows really is safe. I have never been failed by it.
[13:48] <headc4se> james: i hope your now knocking on wood
[13:48] <gjut> Does anyone know how to install Adobe Acrobat reader. I cannot find it in Synaptic
[13:48] <odinsbane> If I close a window for a program, the program keeps running but the window goes away completely.  Is there a way to get it back?  (the program is still running and I can get the pid)
[13:48] <jameslr> headc4se: no need to anymore. I haven't used convert in years.
[13:48] <Father> is there any way that i can get the nessary updates or plugins
[13:48] <jameslr> headc4se: I also never have data on a portable device that isn't duplicated on some sort of fault tolerant media
[13:48] <amenado> Father once more, you can piggyback to the working laptop via wired cat5 (making the working laptop as gateway), get it?
[13:49] <izzy_> gjut, look for acroread
[13:49] <ZeroA4> gjut, you dont realy need it... evince docment reader opens pdf
[13:49] <headc4se> i hope to get to that point, unfortunately, for work  it seems i will always need access to windows, and some of the software i occasionally need doesn't work so hot in virtualbox
[13:49] <izzy_> gjut, it is in the Medibuntu repository
[13:49] <Father> but i dont know how to do that
[13:49] <ndo> to get this data back, in case its destroyed, is not impossible, but to troublesome to risk it:)
[13:49] <AntiMage> DEAR OPPORTUNITIES SEEKERS:
[13:49] <AntiMage> I THOUGHT YOU JUST MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLOWINGS:
[13:49] <AntiMage> WE ARE CURRENTLY HIRING WORK HOME
[13:49] <AntiMage> TYPIST/CLERK/SECRETARY/SUPERVISOR/TRAINER/MARKETER/MANAGER.
[13:49] <AntiMage> WE PAY WEEKLY 1000 USD POTENTIAL.
[13:49] <AntiMage> NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED.
[13:49] <FloodBot3> AntiMage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <AntiMage> MUST KNOW TYPING.
[13:49] <jameslr> headc4se: I am a Windows Sys Admin, so yes I have to work with Windows all the time, but I never work with fat32 anymore.
[13:50] <silver> hello room
[13:50] <silence_> how can i chek 3D GRAPHIC in ubuntu?
[13:50] <Ganandorf> bazhang you there
[13:50] <gjut> ZeroA4: But will it have two pages up?
[13:50] <Father> you mean for me to connect directly to the laptop via cat5 then what
[13:50] <ZeroA4> gjut, yes
[13:50] <headc4se> ahhh...i'm making my way towards linux admin i hope
[13:50] <silver> i have enabled special effects in preferences -> appearances now how can i 3d rotate the desktop ?
[13:50] <amenado> Father time to learn, there are many tutorials you can find in google,  ubuntu+gateway+shared internet access
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> silver: enable cube in the same place
[13:51] <Father> ok
[13:51] <Ganandorf> does any one know how to get the screen savers that use compiz fusion
[13:51] <amenado> Father yes, then the other laptop that is able to connect wirelessly can be your gateway to the internet..it acts as router/gateway
[13:51] <gjut> thanks
[13:51] <Ganandorf> like teh rotating desktop and stuff
[13:51] <nosto> is there a way to have my windows partition on the same drive as my ubuntu install to mount automatically?
[13:51] <odinsbane> silence you can try the glx??? programs such as glxinfo, or glxgears to see if its working.
[13:51] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: should i uncheck the nvidia restricted before i install nvidia's?
[13:51] <Father> thank you all for all your help
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Ganandorf: http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&q=compiz+fusion+screen+savers&btnG=Search
[13:52] <silver> actionparsnip >> only 3 options none normal and extra
[13:52] <AgentHeX> if anyone is curious, having 0 bytes of free space on your root partition can cause all kinds of oddities with anything from the panel to firefox.
[13:52] <silver> where is the cube option ?
[13:52] <amenado> Father you're welcome, come back anytime if you get stuck on a tutorial and needs clarifications
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> silver: run ccsm
[13:52] <aliquando> Hi anyone know Xdmx, i need help?
[13:52] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, no.... nvidia restricted IS the nvidia driver
[13:52] <The-Compiler> !ask aliquando
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> nosto: you mean you want access to your windows partition?
[13:52] <The-Compiler> !ask | aliquando
[13:52] <nosto> oh i have it - it is viewable but i can't just automatically use shortcuts
[13:52] <silver> ActionParsnip: ok doing tht
[13:53] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: I'm talking about the one from nvidia, you said for games i need that one and not the restricted
[13:53] <AgentHeX> silver: you need compizconfig-settings-manager and simple-ccsm
[13:53] <nosto> i have to go into the file system and open the C:\ (basically) before shortcuts work
[13:53] <aliquando> hmm ok sorry
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> nosto: how do you mean "shortcuts"
[13:53] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, it is the SAME driver... just ubuntu packages it for easy installl though apt
[13:53] <nosto> ummmm apps on the partition that i'm using wine to run?
[13:53] <izzy_> Does anybody have an idea for my packages problem posted above (and http://paste.ubuntu.com/29960/)?
[13:53] <nosto> like.. "links"
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> nosto: is it mounted?
[13:54] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: well why did you tell me that there is a difference?
[13:54] <cih997> hi, has anyone resolved opera 9.51 amd64 flash crashing problem? i have ubuntu studio 8.04 amd64
[13:54] <nosto> it is now - but like i have to double click the 74.5 GB Media
[13:54] <nosto> before i can do anything
[13:54] <lusepuster> jameslr, thanks, it worked (the usermod thing)! I love this community...
[13:54] <akaaka> hi, im a xubuntu user, but i wonder which is the spell checker that ubuntu has by default.. anyone know? cause xubuntu does not come with one
[13:54] <nosto> i just want that to be automatically done so I can just boot in and double click my wine apps per say
[13:54] <akaaka> i want to give a try
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> nosto: well its not mounted until you access it. If you make it automount using fstab and have it mounted in /mnt itwil always be there
[13:54] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, the diferençe is between the nvidia (restrited closed source) driver and de NV open source (not restrited) driver
[13:55] <jameslr> lusepuster: sure, I told you wrong though. You might want to undo what you did and use usermod -G (uppercase matters)
[13:55] <lusepuster> Helo folks. My Evolution has been force quit and now it freezes at open. Any file I could remove or change to have it start normally?
[13:55] <lusepuster> jameslr, what is the difference?
[13:55] <jameslr> lusepuster: the command I gave you before will set your initial group (default group)
[13:55] <nosto> ok how do i do that action?
[13:55] <jameslr> lusepuster: to fix it just do sudo usermod -g username username
[13:55] <izzy_> !de
[13:56] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: ok you've lost me now, so is there a difference in the one i d/l from nvidia.com and the one ubuntu uses for the resticted?
[13:56] <jameslr> lusepuster: then do sudo usermod -G newgroup username
[13:56] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, Ubuntu ships with nv driver.... but has the restried one on the repositories... just enable in on system - adminiistration - hardware drivers
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> nosto: is the drive ntfs formatted?
[13:56] <blackfail> i have a cpu that is amd 2800+ 86 has 2 kernels
[13:56] <lusepuster> jameslr, just curious, what is the difference?
[13:56] <moDumass> hey all, has anyone connected to xbmc via their ubuntu machine, because i have the dum and cannot brain
[13:56] <moDumass> its eating me from the inside
[13:56] <jameslr> lusepuster: your initial group is what is used to create new files with.
[13:56] <moDumass> like a chewing microwave
[13:56] <nosto> ok my ubuntu and windows install are both on this hard drive
[13:56] <blackfail> but my ubuntu 8.04 only can recognise one kernel
[13:56] <jameslr> lusepuster: you don't want every new file you create to be owned by the group you just added yourself to do you?
[13:57] <blackfail> who can help me please?
[13:57] <kindofabuzz> ZeroA4: oh you're just saying there is a differnece in check and non checked in restricted drivers.. well duh =)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> nosto: ok, is the windows side of things formatted NTFS>
[13:57] <jameslr> lusepuster: the default is to use your defaut user group (same name as your user name)
[13:57] <nosto> windows has 74.5 GB and ubuntu the other portion
[13:57] <hz> hello, could anyone tell me how to play rmvb movies?
[13:57] <nosto> yes
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !ask | blackfail
[13:57] <fwaokda> I installed xchat from the package manager but it doesn't look as nice as the one I had before formatting/reinstall... how can I fix this?
[13:57] <Pici> blackfail: What kernel are you using?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> nosto: is it formatted NTFS?
[13:57] <nosto> yes
[13:57] <blackfail> use mplayer and win32codes
[13:57] <kindofabuzz> !meaning of life
[13:57] <jameslr> !42
[13:58] <odinsbane> hz There is a realplayer for linux it is put out by a group helix.
[13:58] <Pici> !botabuse
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> !420
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> nosto: ok if you sudo fdisk -l which /dev is the windows partition?
[13:58] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, the driver you download from nvidia.com ie the same of nvida-glx package you find on synaptic and the get installed if you check to enabel it on hardware drivers
[13:58] <AgentHeX> !love
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> ok
[13:58] <blackfail> amd 2800+ and it is 64bit
[13:58] <Pici> Stop playing with the bot.
[13:58] <blackfail> has 2 kernels
[13:58] <kindofabuzz> !freebird
[13:58] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, Just that the driver from nvidia is not package for ubuntu and you have to install it manually
[13:58] <silver> ActionParsnip: i install compiz settings manager and enabled desktop cube and now i cant even switch desktops ?
[13:58] <blackfail> but my os  ubuntu 8.04 only can recognise 1 kernel
[13:58] <lusepuster> jameslr, you are so right! sudo usermod -g username username, then sudo usermod -G groupname username?
[13:58] <Pici> blackfail: I'm not sure what you mean by it can only recognise one kernel.
[13:58] <ZeroA4> kindofabuzz, and of course the one from the repositories is packeaged for ubuntu
[13:59] <jameslr> lusepuster: correct
[13:59] <hz> odinsbane, thx but could u tell me if it's useful or not and if yes the link plz and thx again
[13:59] <nosto> /dev/sda1
[13:59] <nosto> sec
[13:59] <nosto> /dev/sda1   *           1        9049    72686061    7  HPFS/NTFS
[13:59] <nosto> thats what it looks like
[13:59] <silver> actionparsnip: after enable cube what do i need to press to rotate the desktop ?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> nosto: ok cool. sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[13:59] <blackfail> i cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> silver: ctrl+alt+drag with mouse (button 1 down)
[14:00] <AgentHeX> i wonder if you can run wubi.exe in wine from within ubuntu...  nope.
[14:00] <jameslr> silver: it's usually Ctrl + Alt left and right arrow
[14:00] <blackfail> it shows my cpu kernel 0
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> nosto: that backs up your fstab file
[14:00] <nosto> sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[14:00] <blackfail> but there in no kernel1
[14:00] <nosto> right?
[14:00] <s_spiff> ActionParsnip: ctrl  alt and the arrow keys
[14:00] <odinsbane> hz I don't know the link off hand just google it.  I also use the win32codecs and I find that they don't always play the files as well as the rmvb player.  The file is called RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[14:00] <blackfail> why?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> nosto: yeah
[14:00] <nosto> k apparently its done (didn't get any message)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> nosto: good
[14:01] <TiredWolf> what's the choice of picture viewers in kde? you can spare me the ones that show up with apt-cache search image viewer, as i'm already aware of those ;) but is there anything else?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> nosto: ok
[14:01] <blackfail> no boty wants to helo me  i feel so sad!
[14:01] <hz> odinsbane; thx friend
[14:01] <headc4se> blackfail, still not sure what you mean by there's no kernel
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> nosto: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[14:02] <blackfail> i don't mean the linux kernel  , that is my cpu kernel
[14:02] <blackfail> amd 2800+
[14:02] <jameslr> TiredWolf: hmm Picasa?http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[14:02] <blackfail> 64bit
[14:02] <Pici> !who | blackfail
[14:02] <codecowboy> hi. when copying large files to an external usb drive, the data transger rate is about 5 MB/s. Is this normal or should this be faster? Its a brand new machine so USB 2.0 capable
[14:02] <TiredWolf> jameslr: hm thanks, but i meant in the official repositories (and free)
[14:02] <blackfail> oh i know
[14:02] <nosto> ok.. done
[14:02] <jameslr> TiredWolf: Picasa is free
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> nosto: thats mounted the drive to the folder /mnt/windows
[14:02] <blackfail> i have never been there before
[14:03] <The-Compiler> codecowboy: should be okay imho
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> now we need an extra line in /etc/fstab for the partition
[14:03] <headc4se> blackfail, you mean it's only detecting one cpu core?
[14:03] <blackfail> hello
[14:03] <nosto> forever and ever?
[14:03] <TiredWolf> jameslr: not free as linux users usually mean by "free", i'm afraid
[14:03] <Pici> headc4se: I think thats what hes saying...
[14:03] <TiredWolf> jameslr: is it under a free software license?
[14:03] <blackfail> i dot know the word of "detecting"
[14:03] <blackfail> i  look up my dic
[14:04] <TiredWolf> blackfail: it's only "seeing" one cpu core
[14:04] <jameslr> TiredWolf: it's not GPL if that's what you mean
[14:04] <hishuu> hey guys
[14:04] <The-Compiler> blackfail: what language are you speaking?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nosto: yes, the fstab is read at boot and stuf is mounted
[14:04] <TiredWolf> jameslr: well, other free licenses would also do, not necessarily GPL... but yeah, open source is what i mean
[14:04] <codecowboy> The-Compiler, thanks for the reply but I was hoping for a slighlty more technical answer i.e. what is the fastest transfer rate I can reasonably expect?
[14:04] <jameslr> TiredWolf: not open sores.
[14:04] <hishuu> to resize an ntfs partition that contains your main system
[14:05] <hishuu> *is there any way to
[14:05] <hishuu> I have this laptop
[14:05] <hishuu> it can't boot from cd
[14:05] <jameslr> TiredWolf: why so particular? You just need an image viewer. There are many alternatives. Image Magick being one...
[14:05] <headc4se> blackfail,  what version of ubuntu did you download and install?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[14:05] <blackfail> i am a chinese
[14:05] <The-Compiler> codecowboy: no idea then, I only know usb is kinda slow compared to ata
[14:05] <The-Compiler> !cn | blackfail
[14:05] <blackfail> ubuntu 8.04 64bit
[14:05] <hishuu> so I had to laboriously install windows then use it to install ubuntu inside of
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> nosto: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[14:05] <blackfail> thanks
[14:05] <hishuu> but now I have a ntfs partition with windows on it
[14:05] <The-Compiler> np ;)
[14:05] <jameslr> I use picasa, because I have a google account and I use the picasa web albums.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> nosto: thats the line to mount it each time
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> nosto: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> put it at the bottom of the file
[14:06] <ZeroA4> hishuu, I would use Gparted... it comes on the Ubuntu Desktop CD... you CAN generate a USB drive to boot it
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> you may need a carriage return at the end of the line
[14:06] <hishuu> I think this laptop is too old to boot from usb
[14:06] <hishuu> it can't boot from cd
[14:06] <codecowboy> The-Compiler, usb 2.0 should perform at 480Mbps but thats megaBITs not megaBYTES. I forget the formula for working out the true speed - its the same for broadband i believe
[14:07] <hishuu> it's stupid toshiba weirdness
[14:07] <The-Compiler> cowbud: divided by 8 iirc
[14:07] <Conundrum_> divide it by 8 to get megabytes
[14:07] <ZeroA4> hishuu, but why it cant boot from CD? there is no too old for that!
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: id check what it can boot from in bios
[14:07] <TiredWolf> jameslr: uh, imagemagick is an image viewer? thought it was only a command-line manipulation program. anyway, i'm looking for some pretty specific combination of features, so i'd like to know about as many alternatives as possible. to give you an idea, i want always-on-screen shot data (shutterspeed, aperture, iso), hopefully superimposed on the image, and zoom locking on multiple images, and lossless JPEG operations, and canon raw
[14:07] <TiredWolf> loading, and over/underexposure highlights...
[14:07] <hishuu> it can boot from some cd drives
[14:07] <PucKid> hi everyone, i would require some help. My samsung YP-K3 is not mounting on Ubuntu, is there anything i could do about it, to make it work ?
[14:07] <hishuu> it only has external via pcmcia
[14:07] <hishuu> and it won
[14:07] <hishuu> 't boot from that
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> TiredWolf: yes its an image manipulator
[14:07] <The-Compiler> TiredWolf: gimp?
[14:07] <hishuu> and I have checked bios
[14:07] <ZeroA4> hishuu, did you burned the iso proprelly ?
[14:08] <hishuu> yeah, it worked fine under windows
[14:08] <nosto> action thanks for your help
[14:08] <Conundrum_> PucKid: try enabling mtp mode on your mp3 player
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: you got pcmcia cdrom?
[14:08] <ZeroA4> hishuu, windows DOES not boot CDs
[14:08] <nosto> I'll need you again here in a second in regards to .sh files - and maybe a quick "what the heck" are they
[14:08] <TiredWolf> The-Compiler: not KDE, and hardly really a viewer... i also want something that's a "viewer", i.e. has the usual commands to go to the next and previous image, and hopefully loads fast.
[14:08] <PucKid> Conundrum_: okay, i'll google that, i mean google how i can do that, thank you
[14:08] <hishuu> windows does have pcmcia drivers though
[14:08] <codecowboy> The-Compiler, dont you have to multiply it by something 1st before dividing by 8?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> nosto: think windows batch files
[14:09] <The-Compiler> codecowboy: afaik no
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: you dont install ubuntu from windows
[14:09] <The-Compiler> TiredWolf: hm, okay...
[14:09] <lusepuster> My Evolution freezes at startup after a forces shutdown. Is there anything I can do without deleting mails/contacts?
[14:09] <headc4se> blackfail, i was just poking around online, is it a sempron 2800+ or an athlon 2800+?
[14:09] <The-Compiler> TiredWolf: you can use it fine under kde tho
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: you have the ubuntu cd in the pcmcia connected drive and boot from it
[14:09] <TiredWolf> The-Compiler: ShowFoto is pretty close, but a bit too confusing
[14:09] <codecowboy> The-Compiler, ok so I should be getting 60 MB per second, not 5.
[14:09] <hishuu> actionparsnip, I understand how to install a distro normally
[14:09] <TiredWolf> The-Compiler: well sure, but that doesn't make it a KDE program. it means it'll load slowly because it needs to fetch GTK, for starters
[14:10] <hishuu> this laptop is a stupid special case
[14:10] <hishuu> and you can install ubuntu inside a windows environment
[14:10] <blackfail> in fact i don't know any more with my PC
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: then why are you mentioning windows?
[14:10] <henry> ho
[14:10] <henry> sex ny1
[14:10] <blackfail> oh  where are you form  you looks soo cool
[14:10] <hishuu> it creates a nested partition on the windows drive
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: oh you mean with wubi / virtualbox
[14:10] <TiredWolf> henry: wrong channel
[14:10] <blackfail> a linux expert??
[14:10] <hishuu> yeah, wubi
[14:10] <henry> wht 1 shud i use
[14:10] <The-Compiler> +
[14:10] <The-Compiler> argh sry
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: get wubi then and install it
[14:11] <hishuu> ???
[14:11] <headc4se> blackfail, it it's a sempron 2800+, that could be why you're having issues, the sempron 2800+ is only a 32-bit cpu, while the athlon 2800+ is 64-bit
[14:11] <TiredWolf> !channels > Guest54877
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !wubi | hishuu
[14:11] <hishuu> I've used it
[14:11] <hishuu> now I have an ubuntu install running
[14:11] <hishuu> there's no way of booting ubuntu from floppy?
[14:11] <Guest54877> i dnt get this any ladys on here
[14:12] <nosto> Action - how do i go about using a .sh file to install something?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: no, its too big for a floppy
[14:12] <TiredWolf> !smartbootmanager | hishuu
[14:12] <hishuu> no, tried that
[14:12] <hishuu> it only works if your bios can boot from cd
[14:12] <headc4se> nosto, ./command.sh
[14:12] <nosto> i went and downloaded it - and now its sitting on my desktop just waiting to be used
[14:12] <hishuu> which mine can't
[14:12] <PucKid> Conundrum_: the samsung YP-K3 is an MTP device, so this is enabled by default. Atleast that's what i've learned by reading some websites.
[14:12] <The-Compiler> nosto: chmod +x file.sh && sh file.sh
[14:12] <TiredWolf> hishuu: smartbootmanager? it shouldn't really
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> nosto: you fill a text file withdetails of the install and save it. It doesnt HAVE to be .sh
[14:12] <Guest54877> sex. ladys
[14:12] <hishuu> it doesn't give me a boot from cd option
[14:12] <bazhang> Guest54877, not here
[14:12] <hishuu> nor does super grub disc, which I also tried
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> nosto: make sure it has !#bin/bash at the top line
[14:13] <insertable> Hi all. My /etc/resolv.conf keeps changign to my routers IP, but I would like it to stay as my local IP as I am running my own DNS. How can I get it to stay as my IP? Thanks :>
[14:13] <Pici> ActionParsnip, nosto: Its #!  not !#
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> nosto: then chmod u+x <file>
[14:13] <hishuu> but if I boot into some kind of operating system I can get pcmcia drivers loaded
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Pici: cheers
[14:13] <hishuu> so it'll run the cd drive then
[14:13] <hishuu> hence why I had to install it from windows
[14:13] <nosto> wow thats a lot to swallow at once
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> hishuu: well you are running it virtually on top of windows
[14:14] <nosto> still a little confused by that
[14:14] <TiredWolf> hishuu, but the smartbm page says, "Installing Ubuntu is normally done by booting the computer with the Ubuntu CD. However, sometimes you'll experience problems booting from the CD-ROM drive. This can be caused by many factors like using an old computer with a BIOS that doesn't support booting from a CD-ROM drive." - so it would seem it's exactly made to boot when your bios can't boot from CD
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> nosto: open a text editor and put #!bin/bash at the top
[14:15] <The-Compiler> ActionParsnip: thats most likely unneeded, isn't it?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> nosto: then commands as if you are typing them in the terminal, just like a dos batchscript (.bat)
[14:15] <hishuu> well I've copied sbm.bin off the ubuntu cd onto a disk using dd
[14:15] <hishuu> and it doesn't provide the option
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> The-Compiler: its habit for me
[14:15] <hishuu> I'll try again
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> nosto: then save it
[14:15] <TiredWolf> hishuu: you mean when smartbm starts, it doesn't have a "cd-rom" option?
[14:15] <nosto> i can't open the file with a text editor because it can't tell the character type
[14:15] <hishuu> yeah, none at all
[14:15] <hishuu> I'll try it once more, though
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> nosto: you have a text file full of commands but it is not executable and therefore not very useful
[14:16] <TiredWolf> hishuu: tried hitting Tab and then "rescan"?
[14:16] <The-Compiler> nosto: so it's a binary. Try "chmod +x file && ./file"
[14:16] <The-Compiler> nosto: should work
[14:16] <hishuu> I have, tiredwolf
[14:16] <hishuu> but I will try it again
[14:16] <erlend_> how do I set my wireless network card into monitoring mode?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> I thought he meant a fresh empty script
[14:17] <The-Compiler> erlend_: for wardriving i.E.?
[14:17] <erlend_> The-Compiler: i.E
[14:17] <hishuu> and no
[14:17] <TiredWolf> hishuu: does the BIOS recognize the cd drive in the first place? (even though it's not able to boot it)
[14:17] <hishuu> no option to boot from cdrom
[14:17] <jameslr> TiredWolf: sounds like you're looking for a photoshop replacement then?
[14:17] <hishuu> it's pcmcia
[14:17] <The-Compiler> erlend_: you need modified drivers, gimme a moment
[14:17] <hishuu> so it doesn't recognise it
[14:17] <TiredWolf> jameslr: uh... no?
[14:17] <The-Compiler> ActionParsnip: nope, he wanted to execute a script
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> bah
[14:17] <hishuu> I can set cdrom i/o base ports
[14:18] <hishuu> but I don't know what they are
[14:18] <PucKid> I have a problem with my Samsung YP-K3 MP3 player. I plug it in, it gets recognised, if i write lsusb then the 1st output is Bus 005 Device 004: ID 04e8:5081 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. But i can't manage to put music on it, since i don't find it anywhere within gnome.
[14:18] <The-Compiler> PucKid: what does "fdisk -l" do?
[14:18] <dany> oi
[14:18] <The-Compiler> PucKid: sudo fdisk -l
[14:18] <dany> td bem?????????????????
[14:18] <TiredWolf> jameslr: i said i want a *viewer*, and that's one of the reasons why the GIMP won't do. i want something frills-free, with next and previous buttons to browse through images, little thumbnails, *and* the few editing features that someone using a digital camera would like when fetching and comparing their photos. and that's zoom-lock, lossless jpeg transforms, and easily accessible exif info
[14:19] <TiredWolf> !pt | dany
[14:19] <PucKid> The-Compiler: which part do you want me to paste?
[14:19] <maxmex> erlend_ did you try "backtrack" as distro already?
[14:19] <jameslr> TiredWolf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_image_viewers
[14:19] <TiredWolf> hishuu: ouch, pcmcia
[14:19] <hishuu> yup
[14:19] <jameslr> not a comprehensive list, but a list of popular viewers
[14:19] <hishuu> I told you, this laptop is a special case
[14:19] <The-Compiler> PucKid: can you see your player there?
[14:19] <The-Compiler> PucKid: simply paste the hole output ;)
[14:19] <PucKid> The-Compiler: it only shows the mounted windows part. sda1 sda2 and sda3
[14:19] <PucKid> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[14:19] <PucKid> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[14:19] <PucKid> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:19] <PucKid> Disk identifier: 0x80238023
[14:19] <erlend_> maxmex: never tried
[14:20] <The-Compiler> !paste | PucKid
[14:20] <kharloss> hi . i usualy/daily make bakups  - website + database - MySQL. import sql DB it`s ok , but i want to know if it`s posible to copy  to my host and reupload with default attributes .
[14:20] <PucKid> alright
[14:20] <maxmex> you should give it a try
[14:20] <maxmex> it is used for what you are trying
[14:20] <maxmex> and has got all stuff preinstalled
[14:20] <erlend_> maxmex: I'll check it out, ty
[14:20] <TiredWolf> jameslr: hm, i'll try kphotoalbum, i hadn't come across that one
[14:20] <PucKid> The-Compiler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29968/
[14:20] <ZeroA4> TiredWolf, a viewer? like gthumbs ?
[14:20] <hishuu> tiredwolf, hex i/o ports?
[14:20] <hishuu> haha
[14:20] <jameslr> TiredWolf: pay attention to XnView - maybe that has some of the extended features you're looking for
[14:21] <hishuu> you're our only hope
[14:21] <The-Compiler> PucKid: what does "dmesg | tail" output?
[14:21] <TiredWolf> hishuu, i'm afraid smartbm just won't work with pcmcia drives :|
[14:21] <bazhang> !enter | hishuu
[14:21] <hishuu> so
[14:21] <maxmex> erlend_ , aswell youshould google aicrack-ng and its wiki. their you will find a lot of help. aswell about wifi cars and its different modes
[14:21] <hishuu> are there any linux boot disks that support booting from pcmcia?
[14:21] <TiredWolf> jameslr: yup, i was already aware of that one. its defects are it's not KDE and it's not free software, but i do know it has just about all the features i want, so i'll keep in mind anyway
[14:21] <PucKid> The-Compiler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29969/
[14:21] <hishuu> I've looked and found nothing
[14:22] <hishuu> sorry guys
[14:22] <The-Compiler> PucKid: hm, okay, no idea then, sorry ,)
[14:22] <mandark> hii my i dont hear any sounds.. though my speakers are working fyn.. can anyone help me.. i have installed alsa and vlc
[14:22] <PucKid> ):
[14:22] <PucKid> thank you The-Compiler
[14:22] <The-Compiler> PucKid: no problem ;)
[14:22] <erlend_> maxmex: downloading ^ ^
[14:22] <mahidhar> hiiiiiiii can i know how 2 mount usb port
[14:22] <PucKid> i'll post my problem again then (:
[14:22] <The-Compiler> mandark: what does "cat /proc/asound/cards" output
[14:23] <The-Compiler> mahidhar: errr.... simply put it in?
[14:23] <maxmex> The-Compiler,  lol :)
[14:23] <mandark> hey mahidhar r u from india
[14:23] <mahidhar> The-Compiler, i m not getting it yar
[14:23] <PucKid> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my Samsung YP-K3 Player. When i plug it in, the player starts charging, but i can't find it anywhere to browse the files on it.
[14:23] <mandark> The-Compiler i didnt get u
[14:24] <mahidhar> mandark,  ya ...... n u ??
[14:24] <bobrock> help with firestarter ics
[14:24] <mandark> idiot go 2 CMR college
[14:24] <s_spiff> mahidhar what he means is that you just insert the usb disk into the port, there is nothing to 'mount' as such.
[14:24] <The-Compiler> mandark: try "cat /proc/asound/card" in a terminal and paste the output
[14:24] <The-Compiler> !terminal | mandark
[14:24] <maxmex> mahidhar,  what he ment to say is, that normally ubuntu should recongnize the usb port after you pluged it in
[14:24] <mahidhar> mandark, who r u ??
[14:24] <The-Compiler> !paste | mandark
[14:24] <bobrock> help with firestarter ics
[14:24] <bazhang> mandark, mahidhar please take chat elsewhere
[14:24] <bobrock> help with firestarter ics
[14:24] <jameslr> PucKid: a lot of those personal media players require you to put it in a USB mode to access the files - is that the case for that specific device?
[14:25] <The-Compiler> !ask | bobrock
[14:25] <s_spiff> mandark: mahidhar for off topic chats, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <KenBW2> If i install Ubuntu in the nornmal way but choose a USB stick instead of the hard drive would I have a persistent install that will run anywhere?
[14:25] <hishuu> so I'm essentially stuck
[14:25] <bobrock> ok I cant get ics going with firestater says eth0 device in not ready
[14:25] <The-Compiler> KenBW2: i don't think so
[14:25] <bazhang> !usb | KenBW2 see these
[14:25] <PucKid> jameslr: what do you mean a speacial mode ? btw i found this : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/samsung-yp-k3-mtp-device-how-to-mount-569262/ . Maybe this will help me.
[14:25] <mandark> The-Compiler: it says no such file or directory
[14:26] <mahidhar> s_spiff, i m not in root
[14:26] <KenBW2> !usb
[14:26] <s_spiff> mahidhar: ok , what is it that you're trying to do exactly?
[14:26] <bazhang> KenBW2, you need to read the links.
[14:26] <The-Compiler> mandark: sorry, my fault, "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[14:26] <jameslr> PucKid: good find. I'll keep that in mind.
[14:27] <PucKid> jameslr: i'll try it out, to see if it works (:
[14:27] <jameslr> PucKid: ok let me know if it works for you
[14:27] <PucKid> jameslr: sure thing
[14:27] <KenBW2> ubottu: this tutorial is aimed at Feisty, will it work for Hardy?
[14:27] <mahidhar> s_spiff, i m not able 2 detect the pendrive........ what should i do ??
[14:27] <PucKid> jameslr: altho thre isn't libmtp5_0.1.5-2_i386.deb it's a limtp7, i'll try with that one
[14:27] <bazhang> KenBW2, also check www.pendrivelinux.com
[14:28] <mandark> The-Compiler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29972/
[14:28] <KenBW2> bazhang: this tutorial is aimed at Feisty, will it work for Hardy?
[14:28] <s_spiff> mahidhar as such ubuntu automatically mounts your pendrive, so try some other usb port on your system, and see if it works.
[14:28] <The-Compiler> mandark: ow, a hda intel, tricky to get them to work
[14:28] <The-Compiler> !sound | mandark
[14:28] <mandark> The-Compiler: i m on hardy
[14:28] <cygoku> I vave enabled text upon loading using startup-manager, I see a FAILED but it's too fast to read what failed, where can I get a log of that ?!?!
[14:29] <mahidhar> s_spiff, ya i tryed but i m not able 2 get it
[14:29] <The-Compiler> c0mp13371331337: strange nick o_O
[14:29] <greedo> would someone have a solution for flakey touchpad on a macbook pro santa rosa ?
[14:29] <greedo> i applied the settings on the wiki but it doesn't help
[14:31] <histo> cygoku: /var/log
[14:31] <korund> hi all, i have a question - do ubuntu know, what is sda19?
[14:31] <histo> cygoku: or syslog
[14:32] <cygoku> Thanks,
[14:32] <histo> cygoku: check out the faillog possilby
[14:32] <histo> cygoku: and dmesg | grep FAIL
[14:32] <korund> i install now ubuntu, but want to make /home on sda19. ubuntu can't make it.
[14:32] <PucKid> jameslr: i tried the method that was there. I downloaded and installed 	libmtp8_0.3.0-1_i386.deb and mtp-tools_0.3.0-1_i386.deb, then did mtp-detec and i got : "bash: mtp-detec: command not found" . Amarok can't find it either.
[14:32] <cygoku> I see it's something regarder the network manager.
[14:33] <histo> korund: sda19?
[14:33] <histo> korund: why could you possibly need 19 partitions.
[14:33] <korund> i need))
[14:34] <histo> korund: so you just want a seperate home
[14:34] <korund> it's so.
[14:34] <histo> hold up let me get you a link
[14:34] <alimoe> c compilers in ubuntu please?
[14:34] <korund> and i want make /usr on sda16
[14:34] <histo> !home > korund
[14:34] <jameslr> PucKid: its' mtp-detect
[14:35] <PucKid> jameslr: wow yes, i didn't realise it :D now something got to work
[14:35] <stylepiya> who know website free shell account?
[14:35] <jameslr> PucKid: type mtp and press tab twice to see a list of all the mtp-tools commands
[14:36] <mr-nebula> my Internet connection is a bit dodgy, so synaptic keeps stopping its downloads when I've only just started. Is there any way I can make it try again? Thanks.
[14:36] <PucKid> jameslr: i already did the mtp-detect, now it's doing something
[14:36] <histo> stylepiya: I don't think there are any.
[14:36] <histo> stylepiya: Why do you need one btw?
[14:36] <alimoe> c compilers in ubuntu please?
[14:36] <mr-nebula> Oh, I tried with aptitude as well - no better.
[14:36] <CarlFK> korund - use fdisk to setup the partitions (4 primary, 4 logical in each?)  and then use the ubuntu alternate installer, pick 'manual' for partitioning
[14:36] <histo> !gcc > alimoe
[14:36] <stylepiya> i need instal eggdrop
[14:36] <stylepiya> install trivia game in my country
[14:37] <histo> stylepiya: did you try googling free shell acount?
[14:37] <headc4se> so, my issue is that i can't seem to connect to my netatalk server from my macbook. if i disable clear text passwords on the netatalk server, i get an error 5002, if i enable clear text on the server and my mac, it gives me an invalid username/password, even though i specified allow:user and am logging in with my user info which perfect matches between both machines
[14:37] <jameslr> mr-nebula: use apt-get. It will retry
[14:37] <PucKid> jameslr: this is what i got : http://paste.ubuntu.com/29974/
[14:37] <plagerism> Is the nvidia drivers fixed in intrepid yet?
[14:37] <stylepiya> histo yes
[14:37] <stylepiya> histo u know it
[14:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 plagerism
[14:38] <mr-nebula> jameslr: Wonderful :-) - I thought that aptitude was superior to apt-get in every way.
[14:38] <jameslr> PucKid: so it looks like it found it then?
[14:38] <histo> stylepiya: well there are plenty of results how about www.freeshell.org etc....
[14:38] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, whats the stages the runlevel go to on startup? is it directly to runlevel 3 in normal boot ? or is there runlevel 1 and then 2 executed before 3?
[14:38] <stylepiya> histo u ever hav it before?
[14:38] <PucKid> jameslr: yes, i can see the file with mtp-files , but i can't see them yet with amarok
[14:38] <korund> CarlFK: i have all partitions, but if i have /home and /usr on partitions less, than sd*16, ubuntu can't mount their
[14:39] <korund> i now install ubuntu and need onlu mount their
[14:39] <histo> stylepiya: nope
[14:39] <histo> stylepiya: never had a need
[14:39] <hyppias> I have an eeepc with ubuntu hanging in my loacal net. How can I work on my windoze desktop on a netbeans 6 project in the eeepc ?
[14:40] <stylepiya> histo why u not need it
[14:41] <alimoe> c compiling software plz?
[14:41] <CarlFK> korund: so you boot, but /home is not mounted?
[14:41] <kinoz> hello
[14:41] <bazhang> !info build-essential | alimoe
[14:41] <alimoe> and interactive software should be
[14:41] <th0r> hyppias, you should be able to use rdesktop, but don't expect spectacular response
[14:42] <kinoz> hello why archives change the permissions :S i download wordpress and when i try upload to my hosting all archives has permissions changed :S
[14:42] <wasabi> So what's the basic status of this whole DNS thing? Was bind fixed ages ago?
[14:42] <mr-nebula> jameslr: It's stopped on kdebase-bin-kde4 :-(
[14:42] <wasabi> I'd find it hard to imagine someboyd fixing bind without disclosing the vuln.
[14:42] <alimoe> i need a software like Visual basic but it should be for c!
[14:42] <korund> CarlFK: no. i can't mount partition in the installation
[14:42] <vinilios_at_work> are there any packages of python func for ubuntu ?
[14:42] <mr-nebula> W00tie, you're right!
[14:43] <bazhang> !equivalents | alimoe check here
[14:43] <jameslr> mr-nebula: working?
[14:43] <histo> Styrbjorn: There is no reason for one.
[14:43] <histo> Styrbjorn: I just created an account at freeshell was pretty easy
[14:43] <mr-nebula> jamesslr: yeah, but it takes a while for it to retry.
[14:44] <jameslr> mr-nebula: you're not getting disconnected. Maybe you just need to change sources...
[14:44] <hyppias> th0r: ok thnx
[14:44] <mr-nebula> jamesslr: Possibly I'll have a go.
[14:45] <jameslr> mr-nebula: are you in USA?
[14:45] <gavin2u> hi,all
[14:46] <silver> hello room
[14:46] <CarlFK> korund:  all I can sugest is try the alternate installer, and Alt-F2 to a shell and try the mount command.  - I am out of time today
[14:46] <The-Compiler> Hi silver
[14:46] <isakey> hey i want to know how to enable reduced blanking video mode. anyone can give a tip?
[14:47] <silver> i have a hp pavilion dv6226 laptop .... and the problem is that i am not able to drag things with a double tap on the mouse
[14:47] <silver> how do i fix this ?
[14:47] <silver> me on hardy heron
[14:47] <mr-nebula> jamesslr: Okay, I switched mirrors. The weird thing is though: I had transfers happening very fast before until they stopped.
[14:47] <mahesh> help::: i want to use my tablet pen in linuxubuntu.....tell me packages name???
[14:47] <The-Compiler> silver: drag things with a double-tap? o_O
[14:47] <korund> CarlFK: good, i will try.
[14:47] <The-Compiler> mahesh: graphic tablet?
[14:47] <silver> the touch mouse of the laptop hit twice and drag
[14:47] <gavin2u> o_O
[14:47] <silver> i am having to press the left button and drag
[14:48] <gavin2u> silver
[14:48] <silver> i want to tap twice and drag.... as done on laptops
[14:48] <silver> gavin2u:  yes ?
[14:48] <The-Compiler> silver: never heard of that, normally you drag while held the left button, so dunno if you can do that...
[14:48] <gavin2u> i have the same problem :(
[14:48] <mr-nebula> jameslr: UK, not USA
[14:49] <jameslr> silver: do you have the synaptic module loaded in xorg?
[14:49] <silver> jameslr: synaptic package manager ?
[14:49] <jameslr> mr-nebula: thought so. You're using an UK mirror correct?
[14:49] <headc4se> i never tried that on my windows laptops, i only knew it worked on my macbook
[14:49] <gavin2u> so, i switch to server edition
[14:49] <silver> yes
[14:49] <KenBW2> how legal are the mp3/dvd codecs in ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:49] <jameslr> silver: no, there's a driver module for Xorg for the touchpad
[14:49] <silver> hmm
[14:49] <silver> how to load that
[14:49] <silver> its a synaptic touch mouse
[14:50] <jameslr> silver: you might want to install gsynaptics first.
[14:50] <gavin2u> driver module?
[14:50] <erUSUL> KenBW2: depends on what country you live
[14:50] <jameslr> silver: sudo apt-get insatll gsynaptics
[14:50] <KenBW2> erUSUL: UK
[14:50] <gavin2u> ok, have a try
[14:50] <silver> jameslr: sure let me do that
[14:50] <jameslr> silver: that should give you a graphical interface to configure your touch pad in X
[14:50] <headc4se> anyone here got netatalk installed and working with os x leopard?
[14:51] <erUSUL> KenBW2: i think that in europe we are more safe than in the usa (dmca) but do not take my word on it
[14:51] <mr-nebula> jameslr: yeah, I switched to mirrorservice and it's now slower in kb/s when it's running but it's also no longer stalling.
[14:51] <mr-nebula> I think I'll switch mirror, start it up again, RTFM for apt-get and have lunch. Thanks very much.
[14:51] <itscodyxx> Okay, I am having a problem. I attempted to open a program (KUser) and it states 'su returned with an error'
[14:51] <KenBW2> erUSUL: what exactly are the codecs? are they reverse engineered or guess work a la WINE?
[14:51] <jameslr> mr-nebula: cool. Sometimes something that is geographically further away will be faster (network routing and whatnot)
[14:51] <mahesh> help::: i want to use my tablet pen in linuxubuntu.....tell me packages name???
[14:52] <jameslr> mr-nebula: but if you were using US mirrors it's definitely better to use something in EU
[14:52] <mr-nebula> Yeah, I see. I think I was using UK mirrors.
[14:52] <erUSUL> KenBW2: w32codecs? i think there are just a collection of win dll's that some linux programs learned how to load and use