[03:55] <sinuc> mee: check the applicatinos documentation
[03:55] <xxuriahxx> fuppes streams with it
[03:55] <LF|Irssi> why would anyone use irssi? :)
[03:55] <sinuc> i dont use any tv software, shoulnt be too hard tho
[03:55] <usser> hyde, bitchx
[03:55] <mee> ziroday where do i go from there?
[03:55] <xxuriahxx> i just want a software to do it to my 360
[03:55] <hmw> hyde: i use a irssi descendant: epic - with "Phoebox" extension (colors)
[03:55] <xxuriahxx> does it exist?
[03:56] <myk_robinson> hmmm.. I just extracted some more music, and it didnt do it. I wonder if a .m3u in the directory caused the duplicates...
[03:56] <ziroday> xxuriahxx: and I have explained to you that is this an ubuntu support channel, not an xbox one
[03:56] <ziroday> mee: it should be under System in the menu or something like that
[03:56] <xxuriahxx> can fuppes stream with the 360?
[03:56] <RITN> http://pastebin.com/d446ca596
[03:57] <RITN> hmw: look at that
[03:57] <xxuriahxx> if so how?
[03:57] <Kanzar> hmm, well, raised my port to something above 50k, now it's not firewalled - whoo~
[03:57] <ziroday> Geoff_: please pastebin the output of lspci
[03:57] <diecastmessiah> Having a problem with dvd playback// can see the filesystem and all that.. but cannot playback error: cound not read from resource
[03:57] <xxuriahxx> i run fuppes on my ubuntu, can u support that?
[03:57] <hmw> RITN: what was the problem? (sorry... my brain)
[03:57] <diecastmessiah> and cannot copy its like its see the files but not allowed at them///
[03:58] <Geoff_> Sorry, I don't usually use IRC for chatting, so I'm not familiar with how to work it well. I have no idea what you mean by pastebin the output of lspci. Sorry, I just installed Linux to learn how to use it a few days ago.
[03:58] <hmw> RITN: look at line 170
[03:58] <Sambaloko> D-Link router on ubuntu
[03:58] <ziroday> xxuriahxx: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618781 you might want to use uShare instead
[03:58] <xxuriahxx> ok thank you
[03:59] <RITN> yeh
[03:59] <Sambaloko> ubuntu 8.10 ,, D-Link DI-524
[03:59] <ziroday> Geoff_: no problem :), can you open a terminal and type "lspci" in and then copy all the output and put it in pastebin
[03:59] <RITN> thats what im trying to figure out.
[03:59] <RITN> i dont understand
[03:59] <RITN> if you look at the config file.
[03:59] <RITN> its thier.
[03:59] <hmw> RITN: the log looks quite short to me, btw
[03:59] <ziroday> !pastebin > Geoff_
[03:59] <Sambaloko> help please
[04:00] <RITN> but that line could just be the svidio output on the card though
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> him
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> hello everybody
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> :D
[04:00] <Sambaloko> hello
[04:00] <sinuc> hello name that screams at us
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> alayiniza merhaba layn
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> :D
[04:00] <tirs`> Good evening.
[04:00] <hmw> RITN: are you sure, that Screen 0 shouldnt be Screen "Left" in sections "Device" ??
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> saol lan
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> :D
[04:00] <Sambaloko> can u help me?
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> vv-cephei gel kiz
[04:00] <diecastmessiah> anyone know if i maybe missing stuff to play back DVD's .. after newly installed... everything works but playing a simple dvd
[04:00] <zsquareplusc> !ask
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> takilak az
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> lan bi sus
[04:00] <vv-cephei> :)
[04:00] <THE_MENTALIST> dir dir
[04:00] <ziroday> THE_MENTALIST: english only please :)
[04:00] <vv-cephei> English pls
[04:00] <nintendork32> whenever i try installing from sources and run ./configure i always get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name...
[04:00] <nintendork32> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:00] <nintendork32> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:01] <THE_MENTALIST> 2 saattir
[04:01] <FloodBot1> THE_MENTALIST: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <THE_MENTALIST> ziroday kes lan
[04:01] <THE_MENTALIST> :D
[04:01] <ziroday> !ops | THE_MENTALIST is flooding
[04:01] <Sambaloko> how to configure a router D-Link DI-524
[04:01] <Justin_> Hello
[04:01] <nnull> anyone know a way to get transmission to run with a scheduler like uTorrent does?
[04:01] <Justin_> I am having trouble finding a way to install WINE offline
[04:01] <tirs`> Brief question: My HDTV is being recognized in ubuntu as the wrong size. It's a 57" and "Screen Resolution" lists it as a 65". This, unfortunately, makes it difficult to view the entire screen. What can I do to adjust this?
[04:02] <Sambaloko> i have a web with wire
[04:02] <Justin_> Ubuntu can be used with tvs? O_o
[04:02] <Geoff_> Sorry it's taking me a moment. I'm using a different computer to make sure I don't crash the Linux and disrupt the convo.
[04:02] <ziroday> nintendork32: what are you compiling from source?
[04:02] <tirs`> Seemingly so, yes
[04:02] <ziroday> Geoff_: no problem :)
[04:02] <Sambaloko> ...
[04:02] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: didn't work, noticed that it didn'
[04:03] <nintendork32> ziroday: anything i try to compile
[04:03] <Justin_> Anyone know much about WINE?
[04:03] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: ....didn't create a .gnome folder
[04:03] <ziroday> !compile > nintendork32
[04:03] <hmw> Justin_ ask your question
[04:03] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: hm maybe one of the other folder. you could use adduser and create a new account. so you'd at least know if the system works basically
[04:03] <thatsmissgeektou> is this the ubuntu help channel?
[04:04] <zsquareplusc> !hi
[04:04] <Justin_> I need to install WINE while offline
[04:04] <phig> My sound stops to work suddenly. I have just a weird noise....I have already searched in forum, but I cant fix it..Some could help?
[04:04] <Justin_> no internet connection
[04:04] <Justin_> I also need to know exactly how to use it... do I have to run anything to run EXEs?
[04:04] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: yeah got to check that, this looks a little messed, brb, adduser right?
[04:04] <zerodevice> hi everyone
[04:04] <hmw> phig: it might be interrupt conflict?
[04:04] <sinuc> Justin_: since when do we haev "EXEs" running in linux?
[04:05] <sinuc> Justin_: aptitude download wine
[04:05] <Geoff_> Here's the pastebin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/75518/
[04:05] <Justin_> WINE runs EXEs, right?
[04:05] <sinuc> Justin_: then just copy the files to the target machine and isntall as root : dpkg -i *deb
[04:05] <Leeb> im having issues with my resolution...I have to keep setting my resolution with nvidia-settings ever time i log in...im running hardy with an Nvidia 6600
[04:05] <zerodevice> i've just install ubuntu server with LAMP setup and a ubuntu-desktop as the gui, problem is, i can't find where apache is installed.
[04:05] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: are you booting into an other system each time? because you could do this without rebooting. but you'd need to use a text mode chat then ;-)
[04:05] <usser> Justin_, yes it does
[04:05] <hmw> Justin_ you usually doubleclick the exe or issue "wine <exefile>" in terminal
[04:05] <phig> hmw: How could I know if this a iterrupt conflict?
[04:05] <sinuc> Justin_: if you luck it can emulate windows and even run an application somehow, mostly buggy
[04:06] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: is there? that'll be aswome
[04:06] <Justin_> IAlright, but I can't aptitude it.
[04:06] <Justin_> No ineternet on my linux comp
[04:06] <sinuc> on windows only?
[04:06] <Pie-rate> what kind of performance benefits would i see using a kernel other than the -generic one that's standard with ubuntu?
[04:06] <sinuc> then visit a mirror
[04:06] <sinuc> via http
[04:06] <tirs`> Brief question: My HDTV is being recognized in ubuntu as the wrong size. It's a 57" and "Screen Resolution" lists it as a 65". This, unfortunately, makes it difficult to view the entire screen. What can I do to adjust this? Please and thank you.
[04:06] <usser> Pie-rate, you wont notice it
[04:06] <ziroday> Geoff_: thanks, please try to address your responses :)
[04:06] <hmw> phig: i dont know much about linux&sound. YOu could try disabling other hardware that uses the same interrupt. ("irq sharing") ... in the worst case, disable everything in your bios and take out addiotional PCI slot cards, to check, if sound problem persists
[04:06] <Justin_> I actually have been trying to find one
[04:07] <Justin_> know any links?
[04:07] <sinuc> wine has depencies
[04:07] <zsquareplusc> GeminiK: irssi. not using it myself but you'll find a fan club in this channel :-)
[04:07] <tennerbaum> good morning all
[04:07] <ziroday> Geoff_: you have no network card?
[04:07] <Geoff_> Sorry. I'm not sure how to do that. That's why I accidently pmed you.
[04:07] <Spreadsheet> hello
[04:07] <Spreadsheet> i installed chinese on my comp, how do i use it
[04:07] <ziroday> !tab | Geoff_
[04:07] <sinuc> Justin_: http://dpaste.com/92837/
[04:08] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: looking it up, ill have it install, this was getting depressing, booting into windows and all lol
[04:08] <ziroday> Geoff_: so you can type zirod and then hit <tab> to address to me
[04:08] <tennerbaum> one question the update checker app icon that shows up on the superior bar to the right, does not seem to work, it only shows a cross, can anyone give me the url of a tutorial to fix this? THANKS
[04:08] <sinuc> but i pastet my default mirror, which is in germany, could be slow for your side, check ubuntu.com for official mirrors around the world
[04:08] <thatsmissgeektou> does anyone know any good mmorpg games for linux?
[04:08] <phig> hmw: thx, I'll try your suggestion
[04:08] <Geoff_> ziroday: I don't think so. It's a linksys Wirreless USB adapter.
[04:09] <Justin_> what was that for Sinuc?
[04:09] <hmw> thatsmissgeektou: I use UltimaOnline with Wine, but you have to pay for it
[04:09] <sinuc> Justin_: what is what?
[04:09] <Spreadsheet> anyone?
[04:09] <Justin_> the link
[04:09] <Justin_> it didn't provide a WINE.deb
[04:09] <sinuc> a link to a pastbin service
[04:09] <sinuc> lol
[04:09] <thatsmissgeektou> hmw:  yeah i'm looking for a free one
[04:09] <sinuc> do your work alone
[04:09] <mneptok> thatsmissgeektou: NWN?
[04:09] <sinuc> its all there
[04:09] <Justin_> pastebin service?
[04:09] <sinuc> depencies and one mirror to search for
[04:09] <mneptok> thatsmissgeektou: Runescape?
[04:09] <diecastmessiah> dvd have problems with dvd play back?
[04:10] <hyde> I am doing apt-get upgrade for ubuntu 8.04, but it seems it can only be upgraded to 8.04.1, not 8.10. Is it possible to upgrade to 8.10?
[04:10] <diecastmessiah> did
[04:10] <sinuc> visit the website, the info should be enough to get all the packagtes
[04:10] <thatsmissgeektou> OH WAIT! I remember my original question now lol. What are good development tools for ubuntu. like RAD development tools like visual basic for windows
[04:10] <ziroday> Geoff_: ah okay, sorry didn't realise it was usb. Can you pastebin the command of lsusb please :)
[04:10] <diecastmessiah> anyone have problems ***sorry
[04:10] <tennerbaum> one question the update checker app icon that shows up on the superior bar to the right, does not seem to work, it only shows a cross, can anyone give me the url of a tutorial to fix this? THANKS
[04:10] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: what do you want to develop?
[04:10] <Justin_> the link failewd
[04:11] <sinuc> Justin_: what about it failed?
[04:11] <ziroday> tennerbaum: does the cross say anything when you click on it?
[04:11] <sinuc> didnt you like the information?
[04:11] <Justin_> I know how to install WINE sudo dpkg -i (Directory to WINE.) but I need a link
[04:11] <sinuc> http://dpaste.com/92837/
[04:11] <sinuc> there you go
[04:11] <sinuc> all packages you need to fetch
[04:11] <Justin_> it took me to a MSN search without any files in the 2 links
[04:11] <tennerbaum> ziroday nothing it tries, a windows tries to pop up but it closes almost immediately
[04:11] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday:  I don't know what I want to make yet. but I want something that will let me graphically create a GUI just like VB. I program in C++
[04:11] <sinuc> not only wine..
[04:11] <zsquareplusc> Justin_ use apt-get. its there without downloding it from 3rd party sites
[04:12] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: in gtk or qt?
[04:12] <sinuc> there are plenty of libs and stuff, checkout the link and google.
[04:12] <hmw> my movieplayer says ""could not open location, you might not have permission to open the file", when i try to play a dvd. I can view its contents
[04:12] <Justin_> I HAVE NO INTERNET WITH LINUX. ;-;
[04:12] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday:  gtk
[04:12] <sinuc> Justin_: YOU DONT NEED TO.
[04:12] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: also do you have a ide for c++
[04:12] <Justin_> for apt-get?
[04:12] <usser> thatsmissgeektou, you can use kdevelop
[04:12] <sinuc> Justin_: nevermind, search somewhere else for getting the job done for you
[04:12] <Spreadsheet> how do i activate chinese on my comp
[04:12] <sinuc> nobody will search you 20 urls
[04:12] <Spreadsheet> i already installed it
[04:12] <Justin_> Sorry..
[04:12] <ziroday> tennerbaum: in a terminal type in sudo apt-get update
[04:12] <Spreadsheet> aptitude ftw :)
[04:12] <ziroday> usser: he wants gtk :)
[04:12] <mxweas> I just installed b43-fwcutter as I want to use the b43 driver for wifi, but how do I turn on the b43 driver? lsmod | grep b43 returns nothing
[04:13] <Justin_> look, I'm just a complete Linux nOOb and suck at understanding it at all
[04:13] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday: no
[04:13] <Justin_> I'm just trying to get help running my games and another EXE
[04:13] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: you probably want glade, and for an IDE looks at eclipse or geany
[04:13] <tennerbaum> ziroday, it says, error in buse packages (freely translated from Spanish)
[04:13] <blendroid> Why do I not have permission to paste a new folder into the icons folder? X(  This is the reason I didn't want Vista anymore, and Ubuntu seems to think I'm not worthy of customizing my stuff...
[04:13] <usser> ziroday, kdevelop can do gtk too
[04:13] <Justin_> My Linux internet is down because I can't get my wireless card to work
[04:13] <mxweas> anyone?
[04:13] <ziroday> tennerbaum: buse?
[04:13] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday: isn't eclipse for java?
[04:14] <Justin_> Everything's been going downhill since I got Xubuntu
[04:14] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: it can do c++ as well I believe
[04:14] <tennerbaum> ziroday yeah, buse... never heard the term before
[04:14] <Geoff_> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/75521/
[04:14] <ziroday> Geoff_: thanks
[04:14] <nintendork32> ziroday: lmao i have bad luck, it would compile but it needed sometjing else and needed something else... man i have bad luck
[04:14] <ziroday> Geoff_: what model is your usb wireless dongle?
[04:14] <ziroday> nintendork32: this is why you shouldn't compile things :)
[04:15] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday:  what is glade for
[04:15] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: gtk
[04:15] <usser> thatsmissgeektou, try netbeans while you're at it... netbeans is cool too
[04:15] <tennerbaum> ziroday: now the update "notificator" shows the orange icon saying there updates available but when I click on it it opens and close in less than a second
[04:15] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday: like a gtk gui development tool?
[04:15] <nintendork32> ziroday: there isnt a package ;)
[04:16] <ziroday> tennerbaum: not sure what buse is sorry. You might have better luck asking in #ubuntu-es
[04:16] <thatsmissgeektou> usser: i don't like netbeans. it's too confusing for me
[04:16] <Geoff_> ziroday: If that's the adapter, then it's a Linksys Wireless-G 2.4Ghz 802.11g Wireless Network Adapter. Model no. is WUSB54G ver. 4
[04:16] <nintendork32> ziroday: besides my ubuntu is as much of a new ubuntu you can get
[04:16] <tennerbaum> zioday I will, thanks a lot for you help
[04:16] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: yep, if you install it becomes apparant
[04:16] <ziroday> Geoff_: one sec
[04:16] <PLITS> trying to burn the ubuntu iso to the cd using nero and i get a an error telling me that the image is nor right due to byte length or smth like that and when i try to install boots on install but afeter that says cant find boot cd any idea?
[04:16] <ziroday> nintendork32: what program?
[04:16] <Geoff_> ziroday: No problem. Thanks for the help.
[04:16] <nintendork32> ziroday: trust me, no package
[04:17] <zerodevice> geoff, can i ask you some questions?
[04:17] <ziroday> nintendork32: certaintly, I just want to know the program so I can get the dependencies for you
[04:17] <usser> Geoff_, it doesnt work??
[04:17] <Geoff_> zerodevice: Sure
[04:17] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday:  oh I remember looking at glade. yeah sorry I shouldve said this before I don't want it to generate xml files. I want it to generate code in c++
[04:17] <ziroday> thatsmissgeektou: ah right, well not so sure about that sorry.
[04:17] <Geoff_> The adapter works, but my computer keeps freezing after a short while of doing something online.
[04:18] <nintendork32> ziroday: wiimote drivers
[04:18] <Geoff_> Or at elast that is when it happens soonest.
[04:18] <nintendork32> ziroday: as my name suggests :P
[04:18] <zerodevice> geoff, i've just installed ubuntu server with lamp and the desktop gui, but i cant find the folder www for apache, is there a special folder? thanks.
[04:18] <Flannel> nintendork32: Theres packages in the repos already.
[04:18] <usser> zerodevice, /var/www
[04:18] <nintendork32> Flannel: what is the package name?
[04:18] <Flannel> nintendork32: What are you trying to do with the wiimotes?
[04:18] <nintendork32> Flannel: I'll look in synaptic
[04:19] <tennerbaum> hi again #ubuntu-es is dead... everyone's silent
[04:19] <nintendork32> Flannel: configure them to emulate keys for emus and things like that
[04:19] <ziroday> Geoff_: are you currently using ndiswrapper?
[04:19] <ziroday> !info wmgui > nintendork32
[04:19] <usser> tennerbaum, thats cause they dont speak english there
[04:20] <ziroday> nintendork32: see above
[04:20] <nintendork32> thanks
[04:20] <tennerbaum> well thanks a lot i'll try to find help somewhere else
[04:20] <Flannel> nintendork32: right, that'd be cwiid, or libcwiimote
[04:20] <Geoff_> ziroday: I have no idea. I just installed it and wanted to get online, and then it kept freezing. I haven't done anything else with the system really. I tried updating to 8.10, but no luck there.
[04:20] <Flannel> nintendork32: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wii&searchon=all&suite=intrepid&section=all and http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wiimote&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[04:20] <Flannel> nintendork32: Also, there
[04:20] <thatsmissgeektou> ziroday: oh ok. thanks for the help anyways ziro
[04:20] <zerodevice> geoff, you mean http://localhost/var/www ?
[04:21] <strN00B> how can i terminate a user from the who list?
[04:21] <Flannel> nintendork32: also, there's already a program that'll let you set that up, so you won't need to write anything.
[04:21] <thatsmissgeektou> is there a developer help channel?
[04:21] <nintendork32> Flannel: i just installed the wmgui but it says suto installed crap
[04:21] <Flannel> nintendork32: Mhmm, that's what else I was looking for.
[04:21] <nintendork32> Flannel: That will be better
[04:21] <nintendork32> That program
[04:21] <amikrop> Hello. I try to install Ubuntu 8.10 from a USB flash disk. But when I boot from the USB and press on the main installation menu choices, nothing happens.
[04:21] <usser> amikrop, how did u create a usb stick?
[04:22] <usser> amikrop, how did u make it bootable?
[04:22] <zerodevice> geoff, i dont have "www" in my/var
[04:22] <amikrop> And when I press on the help choice, I get the message "Non existent or bad kernel image"
[04:22] <nintendork32> amikrop: try "try ubuntu with out any changes" then when the desktop loads click install
[04:22] <amikrop> usser: syslinux -s /dev/sda
[04:22] <hmw> zerodevice: maybe its /srv/www
[04:22] <amikrop> nintendork32: that choice does nothing, as well
[04:22] <Flueber> zerodevice: /etc/var/www
[04:22] <nintendork32> usser: i think he exracted the iso with 7zip or something of that sort
[04:23] <nintendork32> amikrop: does it say loaing linux kernel?
[04:23] <amikrop> nintendork32: no
[04:23] <nintendork32> if so wait...
[04:23] <nintendork32> ok then idk
[04:23] <hmw> Flueber: etc???
[04:23] <amikrop> when I press on the choices, nothing happens
[04:23] <nintendork32> Flannel where is that program to set it up?
[04:23] <outbackwifi> !hi
[04:23] <nintendork32> hey
[04:23] <nintendork32> hehe
[04:23] <usser> amikrop, can u try unetbootin
[04:23] <Flannel> nintendork32: I'm not sure, I believe wmgui does it.
[04:24] <amikrop> usser: I manually mounted the iso image and copied the files to the usb, after I made bootable
[04:24] <nintendork32> cool thanks
[04:24] <amikrop> usser: ok, I will try
[04:24] <GeminiK> zsquareplusc: ok tried the new user, it dind't work, system is screwd up :(
[04:25] <Leefmc> Question: How do you slow down the speed at which holding down keyboard buttons send events? Ie, if you hold Backspace, i can delete multiple words in the blink of an eye... this makes holding down the delete key often like throwing an A Bomb into my paragraphs heh.. Thoughts?
[04:25] <andresj> hello, im trying to install ubuntu on a computer without a hard drive. I'm using the alternate installer. I am right before the "Partition the disks" (partman) module. I want to, instead of using the disks partitions, use NFS for storage. any ideas? I can't install on the hard drive like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto suggests because it's faulty and I might loose data.
[04:26] <outbackwifi> Leefmc: you adjust the repeat rate
[04:26] <Leefmc> outbackwifi: Where is that found?
[04:26] <outbackwifi> Leefmc: system->preferences->keyboard
[04:26] <Leefmc> outbackwifi: Because i recall toying with a setting that sounded like what i needed, but it didnt seem to ahve any effect.. either way
[04:26] <CorpseFeeder> hi. Is it possible to connect to an iPass hotspot with ubuntu, and if so, how when the client software only seems to be windows or mac? :-/
[04:27] <Flueber> sorry. filesystem/var/www
[04:27] <Geoff_> ziroday: Did you get my last message? Unless ndiswrapper came already installed, I haven't installed it myself.
[04:27] <zerodevice> hmw, /srv/ is empty
[04:27] <Leefmc> outbackwifi: Specifically what setting, to make sure i am using the right one.. Because under "Repeat Keys" there is a "Speed" slider.. and i can adjust that to zero, and to maximum, and i see no difference.
[04:28] <zerodevice> flueber, /etc/ does not have /var
[04:28] <Flueber> my mistake, filesystem/var/www
[04:28] <Flueber> too much apache lately
[04:29] <hmw> zerodevice: find /. -name www
[04:29] <wariskampar> hello, when i launch vumeter (Application>Sound&..), i get error message
[04:29] <wariskampar> failed to execute child process "vumeter'
[04:29] <wariskampar> what should i install
[04:29] <Flueber> or locate www
[04:30] <evildragon> try launching in terminal
[04:30] <evildragon> vumeter
[04:30] <Geoff_> ziroday: Still there?
[04:30] <wariskampar> command not found
[04:31] <zerodevice> hmw, i found one /www but its in usr/share/perl5/www/
[04:31] <wariskampar> i just upgrade to intrepid from hardy
[04:31] <outbackwifi> Leefmc: disabling that works, and adjusting the delay also works but the speed setting doesnt work at all! strange
[04:31] <zerodevice> hmw, the rest are are www-<with some name>
[04:31] <ziroday> Geoff_: sorry had to shoot out, add blacklist rt2500 and blacklist rt 2570 to /etc/modprode.d/blacklist and then follow the ndiswrapper guide
[04:31] <nintendork32> Flannel: is there a way to emulate keys with something else?
[04:31] <wariskampar> when i re-mount my /home this application was automatically migrated
[04:32] <tennerbaum> hello again.
[04:32] <nintendork32> Flannel: Like glovePIE on windows
[04:32] <hmw> try finding htdocs, zerodevice
[04:32] <wariskampar> in hardy it was ok
[04:32] <ziroday> Geoff_: then follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:32] <Flannel> nintendork32: I have no idea what that is.  But very likely, yes.
[04:32] <wariskampar> maybe some files are missing but i can not figure out what
[04:32] <tennerbaum> i got a problem with update notifications - it says there is an error en the package bus, i cannot use synaptics at all
[04:32] <wariskampar> can anybody guide me
[04:32] <Flannel> zerodevice: /var/www is your document root.  We can double check that it didn't get put somewhere else if you'd like.
[04:33] <Flannel> zerodevice: This is a fresh install of the server edition? or what?
[04:33] <CorpseFeeder> is connecting to iPass wi-fi hotspots currently impossible in linux?
[04:33] <hmw> Flannel zerodevice looks like an incomplete apache setup
[04:33] <nintendork32> Flannel: Like for emulators(to play N64 games for example) and map the a key on the wii remote for the 8 key or use the IR as the mouse
[04:33] <Geoff_> ziroday: How do I add those? Is that in the guide also?
[04:33] <Flannel> hmw: apache doesn't create /var/www
[04:34] <hmw> Flannel thats new to me, but you sound quite certain about it
[04:34] <Flannel> nintendork32: I have no idea.  But I believe wmgui does do the mapping.  If not that, theres some other package that has something to do it.
[04:34] <outbackwifi> hmw: i can second that
[04:34] <ziroday> Geoff_: just open the file using a text editor and add those lines to the bottom
[04:35] <Geoff_> ziroday: Also, does it make a difference that I do have internet access already? Like, I can access websites for a short time before it freezes.
[04:35] <hmw> outbackwifi i believe you folx. but i just dont remember creating my www on my LFS... it might have been a script though
[04:35] <outbackwifi> hmw: the base filesystem has /var/www
[04:35] <ziroday> Geoff_: thats correct
[04:36] <hmw> outbackwifi huh? ubuntu might not be using FHS. /var/www is deprecated or som
[04:36] <Flannel> zerodevice: This is a fresh install of the server edition? or what?
[04:37] <CorpseFeeder> I'm guessing it is impossible.  Mouse went funky
[04:37] <outbackwifi> hmw: i stand corrected; the apt-get install of apache2 creates /var/www
[04:37] <hmw> outbackwifi i didnt doubt that
[04:37] <nintendork32> Flannel: it just reads the IR motion and reads the buttons. not maps them out
[04:37] <hmw> outbackwifi its just not FHS compliant. nobody said, that ubuntu was using the file hierarchy standard
[04:37] <nintendork32> Flannel: wm gui does that is
[04:38] <Flannel> nintendork32: Then there's something else that'll make them do real things, but I don't rememebr what.  I thought it was a part of wmgui though.
[04:38] <WrenchHead> anyone know what options totem is configured with? I am trying to figure out why ubuntu lets me play a music stream while another distro is failing.
[04:39] <outbackwifi> WrenchHead: its got to do with the gstreamer plugins that you install; not totem itself
[04:39] <CorpseFeeder> If I was to try running the Windows iPass connection client software from wine, I'm guessing that would not work..... yes? no? thoughts?
[04:39] <WrenchHead> I have every gstreamer plugin installed on both ubuntu and gentoo
[04:40] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: Try #winehq, or check out their appdb
[04:40] <Leeb> im having issues with my resolution...I have to keep setting my resolution back to 1600x1050@60 with nvidia-settings every time i log in...im running hardy with an Nvidia 6600...how do i make the 1600x1050@60 my default res?
[04:40] <Geoff_> ziroday: It won't let me save the text file. It says  I don't have the permissions necessary to save the file.
[04:40] <CorpseFeeder> Flannel: sound like a plan...
[04:41] <Geoff_> ziroday: I believe I have to be signed in as root, but i can't seem to do it right. i can get signed in under a terminal screen, but I still can't save the file then.
[04:42] <hmw> my totem keeps making problems with DVDs... ubuntu 7.10 could play everything. how can i deinstall the codecs?
[04:42] <andresj> hello, does the Alternate Installation include NFS support? Or is it installable?
[04:42] <usser> hmw, try vlc
[04:42] <hmw> switched the drive, now it just crashes
[04:42] <hmw> usser: i want totem :( it should be able to play
[04:42] <Chase-san> This is horribily offtopic, but all the relevent channels are dead(silent), this channel has the most users. Anyone here decent with eclipse/cdt? I have a problem with make in eclispe. (This will be my only message about this here.)
[04:42] <Frogzoo> andresj: if it's not already there, it's definitely installable
[04:43] <hmw> gah. i deinstall the whole player. argh
[04:43] <usser> hmw, did u install libdvdcss from medibuntu
[04:43] <hmw> usser: i think i installed some gstreamers stuff - the two packages, it suggested
[04:44] <usser> !medibuntu | hmw
[04:44] <hmw> it just doesnt ask anymore... it crashes!
[04:44] <hmw> before it said, i might not have permission to access the medium
[04:44] <mgolisch> do you?
[04:44] <nintendork32> Flannel: it was wminput
[04:45] <CorpseFeeder> no iPass client software is listed in winehq app db.. It is probably impossible to run such a thing from wine.
[04:45] <nintendork32> Flannel: need to find my wireless sensor bar though to use it as a mouse :\
[04:45] <tennerbaum> I cant open my update manager
[04:45] <tennerbaum> I cant open the add-remove programs manager
[04:45] <tennerbaum> I need help
[04:45] <usser> CorpseFeeder, what is iPass anyway?
[04:45] <nintendork32> tenerbaum: reboot
[04:46] <tennerbaum> nintendork32 done it several times
[04:46] <nintendork32> idk then
[04:46] <GeminiK2> hi there, what is the package for Xorg? I want to purge it and install it
[04:46] <mgolisch> tennerbaum: start from terminal
[04:46] <tennerbaum> nintendork32 the app opens and then close in less than a second
[04:46] <hyde> is it possible to upgrade 8.04.1 ubuntu desktop to 8.10 just using command line? I know there is one note listing how to do this with ubuntu desktop and server, and per that note, it is only possible to do this via command line with ubuntu server, not desktop version ..
[04:46] <hmw> gah! this upgrade is pure horror
[04:46] <hmw> i shouldnt have touched the machine
[04:46] <Flannel> tennerbaum: pastebin the output of the following: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:47] <Frogzoo> hmw: to 8.10?
[04:47] <hmw> yes
[04:47] <Flannel> hyde: the "server" instructions will work fine for a desktop system, yes.
[04:47] <Xpistos> Ok, So I have a windows box with a 500gb secondary drive. I want to mount that to my "win" folder in my ubuntu laptop's home folder . Can anyone help me get this down? I have been trying to get this together for a week with no luck
[04:47] <Frogzoo> hmw: hmm, sorry to hear it
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release.gpg
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Translation-es
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Obj http://archive.canonical.com intrepid Release.gpg
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Ign http://archive.canonical.com intrepid/partner Translation-es
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Obj http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release.gpg
[04:47] <tennerbaum> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/restricted Translation-es
[04:47] <FloodBot1> tennerbaum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <outbackwifi> !samba| Xpistos
[04:47] <hyde> Thanks Flannel, I don't have enough PC power to run in GUI mode here.
[04:47] <Geoff_> ziroday: Nevermind. I seemed to have fixed that. Thanks a ton for the help man. I appreciate it!
[04:47] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about managing my search engines in firefox, when I kind of overloaded the number so now I cant do that from that browser menu?
[04:47] <WrenchHead> outbackwifi, any way I can figure out what plugin the stream is using?
[04:48] <CorpseFeeder> well that settles that - the installer .exe file for iPass doesn't even run in wine ;)
[04:48] <strN00B> how can i setup a share folder in terminal using sudo?
[04:48] <hmw> totem opens, then immediatly dissapears, when i try to play the dvd
[04:48] <Xpistos> outbackwifi: I have the share mounted on the desktop but I want to mount it to a specific folder on boot
[04:48] <outbackwifi> WrenchHead: yes; gstreamer plugins are generally categorized as good,bad & ugly (i think) depending upon the formats
[04:48] <hmw> strN00B using samba, yes. Install samba and edit /etc/samba/smb.conf accordingly
[04:48] <tennerbaum> flannel it liss a list of sources and then it says there's a bus pacakge error
[04:49] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: add it to /etc/fstab
[04:49] <Flannel> tennerbaum: pastebin it please
[04:49] <Flannel> !paste | tennerbaum
[04:49] <nintendork32> wow, ubuntu is great, has everythjing available to apt-get, EVERYTHING
[04:49] <strN00B> hmw so i dont wanna use Nautilus?
[04:49] <nintendork32> makes life easier :D
[04:49] <Xpistos> outbackwifi: Like this "mount -t smbfs -o username=shane,password="" //marsala/backup /home/shane/win" ?
[04:49] <hmw> what do i have to deinstall, that my totem asks for downloading codecs again?
[04:50] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: no
[04:50] <tennerbaum> flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/75528/
[04:50] <GodfatherofEire> Can anybody help me out seeing as how I now have too many search engines in firefox?
[04:50] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: though you could add  that line to the end of /etc/rc.local
[04:50] <GeminiK2> hmm, after log on all I get is a mouse and BG, not sure what I did, but creating new user did not fix the problem
[04:51] <Flannel> tennerbaum: Could you translate that last line?  I can't think of what it might be.
[04:51] <Xpistos> outbackwifi: I am not familiar with rc.local. What is it?
[04:51] <tennerbaum> flannel: error in the bus package
[04:51] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: fstab has a specific format that needs to be followed (man fstab will tell you)
[04:51] <hmw> oh my GodfatherofEire - click the search box and then manage search engines
[04:51] <tennerbaum> flannel error in bus pacakge
[04:51] <Flannel> tennerbaum: And it just sits there at 0%?
[04:51] <tennerbaum> flannel yes
[04:51] <GodfatherofEire> hmw, I mean I have so many I cant do that
[04:51] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: its somewhat similar to the autoexec.bat file that we had in the days of the DOS
[04:51] <nintendork32> how do i make a hidden folder?
[04:52] <GodfatherofEire> I didnt realize before well, I had one more than a management problem
[04:52] <nintendork32> or directory
[04:52] <tennerbaum> Flannel it's been like days... now I can't even add or remove programs
[04:52] <Flannel> tennerbaum: Well, if it makes you feel better, that's the reason you can't.
[04:52] <Xpistos> outbackwifi: Thanks I will check that out
[04:52] <WrenchHead> nintendork32, mkdir .foldername
[04:52] <outbackwifi> Xpistos: its a file that gets executed at the end of everything at boot time
[04:52] <chris4585> nintendork32, you rename it with a . infront of it, example .example
[04:52] <tennerbaum> Flannel my boyfriend's gonna be mad. But I've done nothing
[04:53] <Flannel> tennerbaum: Well, we'll see if we can't fix it.  But that's the reason
[04:53] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody have any ideas on how to fix the # of search engines I have, seeing as how now I cant even access the "Manage search engines" button?
[04:53] <mee> is there a file shredder for ubuntu
[04:54] <ubuntu> how do access the keyboard shortcuts?
[04:54] <Flannel> mee: shred
[04:55] <mee> flannel what methods does it use
[04:55] <Flannel> mee: Erm, what?
[04:55] <mee> like DoD?
[04:55] <jebblue> ubuntu System | Prefs | Keyboard Shortcuts ?
[04:56] <zerodevice> flannel, yes i just installed ubuntu server edition and along with the lamp settings during installation and also the desktop gui
[04:56] <zerodevice> hmw, incomplete setup? signs....
[04:56] <GodfatherofEire> mee: So you basically want to nuke the file and nothing else?
[04:56] <mee> yes!
[04:56] <outbackwifi> if the OP who asked about connecting to iPass is still around, heres a workaround -> http://www.whoi.edu/CIS/networking/remote_access/iPass/workaround.html
[04:56] <mee> totally destroy it
[04:56] <tennerbaum> Flannel I can't even open the synaptics package thing... well it opens but closes immediately
[04:57] <Flannel> zerodevice: You used the server CD? or the DEsktop CD? or what?
[04:57] <m^i^K^e> irc.xnet.fw.nu
[04:57] <Flannel> mee: It overwrites it N times with various bytepatterns,
[04:57] <Flannel> mee: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/shred-invocation.html  and the man page for more info
[04:57] <doc|home> hello, I have an xps m1330 and I'm trying to get ekiga working on it. Have plugged in a mic/headset but I'm getting no audio recording. Same result with arecord.
[04:58] <Flannel> tennerbaum: Right, for the same reason.
[04:58] <playya_> mee, you can set the number of iterations and the you just write random data, if you want 0s at the end
[04:58] <doc|home> anyone got any suggestions?
[04:58] <zerodevice> flannel, i used the server cd
[04:58] <outbackwifi> !info secure-delete
[04:58] <GeminiK> anybody have ideas on how fix session that only loads mouse and BG? It's not user, tried creating a new one and I still get the same thing.
[04:58] <mee> 0s arent enough
[04:58] <outbackwifi> !info secure-delete > mee
[04:58] <Flannel> mee: No, shred doesn't just write zeros
[04:58] <Flannel> outbackwifi: shred is already installed.
[04:58] <outbackwifi> oops
[04:58] <outbackwifi> sorry
[04:59] <hmw> this totem doesnt even access the dvd
[04:59] <Flannel> zerodevice: Alright, please do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:59] <Flannel> zerodevice: and pastebin the output
[04:59] <TJ-42> will sbackup follow symlinks?  what happens if there is recursion?  e.g. /home/user/music links to /media/music and /media/music/user linked to /home/user ?
[04:59] <hmw> is there a log file for totem?
[04:59] <playya_> mee, before some random numbers from /dev/urandom
[04:59]  * outbackwifi shred - overwrite a file to hide its contents, and optionally delete it
[04:59] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody help me out with my firefox problem?
[05:00] <outbackwifi> GodfatherofEire: sure
[05:00] <mee> whats that playya_ ?
[05:00] <Flannel> tennerbaum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs  I'd search there.  If you can't find something, report a new bug.  That'll be the best course of action
[05:00] <Derath> Does anyone recall what directory to put the flash plugin into?
[05:00] <GodfatherofEire> outbackwifi: I kind of added a few too many search engines and now I cant even get to the manage Search engines button, any ideas?
[05:00] <whyameye> I'm getting some sort of strange aliasing on my monitor with 8.10. The orange of the background on the right side bleeds into the windows and vice versa. Ideas?
[05:00] <zerodevice> flannel, it seems like its downloading and installing
[05:01] <tennerbaum> Flannel I've been reading some posts... it seems somehow somebody has really messed the Spanish version
[05:01] <tennerbaum> Flannel thanks a lot
[05:01] <Flannel> tennerbaum: You might get more answers in #ubuntu-es then
[05:02] <tennerbaum> Flannel nobody answers tehre
[05:02] <andrew__> hi users
[05:02] <tennerbaum> Flannel in other irc channel's they've come to the conclusion that it happens sometimes and nobody knows why
[05:03] <tennerbaum> it's a serious bug - anyway
[05:03] <Flannel> tennerbaum: I'd still file a bug report.
[05:03] <andrew__> file a bug report
[05:03] <zerodevice> flannel, here's teh output.  http://pastebin.com/m17c960c6
[05:03] <nintendork32> is there a way to request a package to be put in the repositories?
[05:04] <Flannel> nintendork32: see #ubuntu-motu
[05:04] <andrew__> yes goto ubuntu
[05:04] <Flannel> zerodevice: You didnt have apache installed previously
[05:04] <GeminiK> well, guys I feel like I have to burn an ubuntu cd and install mys system again, any clues on how to fix my problem?
[05:04] <andrew__> or in packemngr applie for package survey
[05:04] <andrew__> i did
[05:04] <andrew__> tracks what packages are the most popular
[05:04] <doc|home> anyone?
[05:05] <andrew__> just answered
[05:05] <rebel_kid> how can i grant priority to one process over all overs?
[05:05] <rebel_kid> others*
[05:05] <nintendork32> Flannel: thanks i'm wanting to try to get mupen64 (a n64 emu) there. they have atleast two SNES and atleast one NES
[05:05] <mib_eoczra> how do i know if built in tv card of my laptop is detected or not
[05:05] <zerodevice> flannel, i thought when i install teh server edition then i choose LAMP in the options will auto setup everything in LAMP?
[05:05] <outbackwifi> GodfatherofEire: try editing here -> jar:file:///usr/lib/firefox-3.0.4/chrome/browser.jar!/content/browser/search/engineManager.xul
[05:06] <zerodevice> flannel, if it doesnt install everything in LAMP then think i know what happen
[05:06] <Flannel> zerodevice: It will.  Apparently you didn't select lamp.  Do this:  sudo tasksel, then choose LAMP
[05:06] <varun> guys anyone know if it is possible to get those openSUSE like gnome start menu in ubuntu?
[05:06] <andrew__> no idea
[05:06] <hmw> how do i uninstall the codecs, i just installed in totem?
[05:07] <andrew__> don't as u may nee dthem
[05:07] <varun> or like the one in mint?
[05:07] <rebel_kid> i cant seem to find the man page for starting processing in terminal with a certain priority
[05:07] <andrew__> for other media players
[05:07] <Flannel> rebel_kid: nice?
[05:07] <Flannel> (and renice)
[05:07] <andrew__> i tried mint its not that great
[05:07] <hmw> rebel_kid it is "nice"
[05:07] <rebel_kid> flannel, thank you :)
[05:07] <rebel_kid> hmw, thanks
[05:07] <zerodevice> flannel, ok i did wat u said, i showed a screen and i select LAMP but then nothing happen no output just back to normal input mode
[05:08] <woody86> anyone know why Kubuntu won't save most of my settings? I have to add my clock to the panel everytime I restart, and some other window settings are off
[05:08] <zerodevice> flannel, sorry i think i did not mark a * on it. thanks i know wat to do now
[05:08] <Flannel> zerodevice: Alright. This page will walk you through (really easy) setting it up if its not already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:08] <Flannel> woody86: Try #kubuntu
[05:09] <strN00B> hmw, i set up my samba and make a netlogon directory with guest = no, read only = no, shares modes = yes     i can see the netlogon dir in my windows network but dont have permissions to write to
[05:09] <andrew__> kubuntu u us ethat?
[05:09] <andrew__> kde is low
[05:09] <andrew__> *slow
[05:09] <zerodevice> flannel, does the progress bar stays at 0% for along time?
[05:09] <Flannel> zerodevice: I suppose it might.
[05:09] <woody86> Flannel: I tried there, but am not getting an answer, so I figured I'd try here
[05:09] <hmw> strN00B try guest ok = yes
[05:09] <zerodevice> flannel, ok. thanks i will leave it for a while
[05:10] <zerodevice> flannel, thanks. gtg
[05:10] <GeminiK> lol I'm starting to think that there is something wrong with my irc program, can somebody say anything to me?
[05:10] <WrenchHead> GeminiK, what
[05:10] <hmw> strN00B wait sorry
[05:10] <Xang> GeminiK: Anything.
[05:10] <scientes> i recombiled my kernel and the console doesnt work with the differnt video modes, i compiled in the frambuffer drivers???
[05:10] <hmw> strN00B from what OS are you trying to access?
[05:10] <strN00B> hmw, vista
[05:11] <andrew__> any one use wine?
[05:11] <andrew__> cause having issues with itunes
[05:11] <ironrose> is there a way to partition your hard drive in Linux without losing data?
[05:11] <andrew__> is itunes even work well with wine
[05:11] <GeminiK> cool it works *sigh, anyways, I can't load any session, just get mouse and Background, created new user but I still got the same thing. Any ideas?
[05:11] <hmw> strN00B if your linux is not your internet gateway, try guest ok = yes
[05:12] <andresj> Frogzoo: i know u answered me a long time ago, but how would i install it?
[05:12] <Ohmu> I put PS1="\[$(tput setaf 1)\]\u@\h \W $ \[$(tput setaf 2)\]" into /etc/bash.bashrc  It has no effect.  Wrong file?
[05:12] <Slylias> How do I find and empty the trash in gnome?
[05:12] <strN00B> hmw, no its not.. i have a router. and guest ok = yes still didnt work
[05:12] <WrenchHead> Ohmu, try ~/.bashrc
[05:12] <playya_> mee, you can override you file n-time with random data
[05:12] <Slylias> my drive is so full I can't do anything!
[05:12] <WrenchHead> then source ~/.bashrc
[05:12] <andrew__> free it up
[05:13] <doc|home> hello, I have an xps m1330 and I'm trying to get ekiga working on it. Have plugged in a mic/headset but I'm getting no audio recording. Same result with arecord. anyone got any suggestions as to why?
[05:13] <Slylias> yes, but I can't find the trash to empty it
[05:13] <mee> ok thanks
[05:13] <legend2440> !trash
[05:13] <hmw> strN00B which dir did you try to share?
[05:13] <histo> Slylias, look in /home/slylias/.Trash
[05:13] <Slylias> There we go, thank you!
[05:14] <strN00B> hmw, an extra partition i set to /network on my linux machine
[05:14] <hmw> strN00B check the file permissions on that dir
[05:14] <hmw> aah i make progrss... my totem wants libdvdcss now
[05:15] <hmw> !medibuntu
[05:15] <strN00B> hmw, others is set to access files
[05:15] <legend2440> doc|home: http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/record.html
[05:15] <strN00B> hmw, should i chmod?
[05:15] <hmw> strN00B others should be allowed to write
[05:16] <doc|home> legend2440: thanks, will try that
[05:16] <cheezfood> I got a problem installing 8.10...can anyone help?
[05:16] <GodfatherofEire1> outbackwifi, says the thing doest exist
[05:17] <GeminiK> I also got the problem were in the login if I click on options, the loggin just seems to restart, sometime many times before it just takes me back
[05:17] <GodfatherofEire1> Wait, never mind, I missed a dir
[05:17] <cheezfood> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'IterableUserDict'
[05:17] <strN00B> hmw can i chmod 777 or is that a security risk?
[05:18] <GeminiK> I tried purging and reinstalling gdm but that didn't work
[05:18] <strN00B> hmw 766
[05:18] <hmw> strN00B i dont know really. sounds like no good idea. i am sometimes lazy and set 0777 too.
[05:19] <doc|home> legend2440: hmmm, seems to be a different card, but alsamixer -V all did have  capture which was turned to zero. Turned it up to 70 but it made no difference :/
[05:19] <strN00B> hmw, well this is for LAN anyways so.. as long as the machines cannot on my LAN im safe :D
[05:19] <hmw> did they remove libdvdcss2 from medibuntu?? apt-get says its not available... i added the sources
[05:20] <hmw> strN00B dont forget about viruses and trojans. but for testing you could set it
[05:21] <strN00B> hmw well since its just storage im setting it to 766
[05:21] <GodfatherofEire1> ok, outbackwifi, Ihave no idea what I'd be looking for
[05:22] <GeminiK> what is the package the main package for Xorg?
[05:22] <LF|Irssi> is there a exclude command to exclude a directory from the sudo updatedb command? I dont want my external hdd being included which is /media/disk
[05:23] <frybye> hi - on a eeePC 701 with intrepid, since a couple of days the login- image has been only in rather broken grey- tones and not at all the usual Ubuntu-login...any tips?
[05:23] <strN00B> hwm ack! i set chmod 766 /network   and now my vista OS cannot open netlogon location :/
[05:24] <strN00B> hmw, 777 is the only way =[
[05:24] <Kar1na> php-es
[05:24] <fde> strN00B: yeah... the odd amount means they can open the dir.... pretty important
[05:25] <strN00B> fde so others need execute permissions too, just to open the dir =/
[05:26] <fde> strN00B: yes... as its a directory...
[05:26] <GeminiK> When I press ctrl-alt-bksp on the loging window it restarts, how can I stop it from restarting by itself so there is only the terminal?
[05:26] <strN00B> fde can i just create a samba group and it group permissions to my netlogon dir
[05:26] <frybye> - approaching above problem from different angle.. pse remind me someone of how too get the files checked.. eh like chkdisk or something???
[05:26] <fde> GeminiK: you probably want /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:27] <fde> strN00B: directories always have to be executable to access... you should have everything in the directory at least readable though
[05:27] <hmw> arr
[05:27] <hmw> i am deleting this stupid ubuntu now
[05:27] <fde> strN00B: can be 550 if you don't want them to be able to change anything, for instance
[05:28] <TJ-42> If I want to find all of the symbolic links in my home directory, what command do I use?
[05:28] <doc|home> anyone?
[05:28] <strN00B> fde, but its my 'network storage' location so that would be pointless
[05:28] <hmw> TJ-42 ls -l
[05:29] <tritium> hmw: what troubles are you having?
[05:29] <fde> strN00B: alright, then why are you complaining about it being writable and executable?
[05:29] <GeminiK> fde: when I try to login the sessions never finishes loading, where can I find a log if you know on what it loaded last?
[05:29] <TJ-42> hmw:  ls -l just gives me a listing of the contents of my current directory.  I want to find all of the sym links in the home directory and it's subdirectory
[05:29] <fde> GeminiK: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:30] <strN00B> fde, im not.. im trying to be secure about it =/  im new to linux and learning    dont hate me for asking questions
[05:30] <hmw> tritiu different. i deleted the partition and installed 8.10, and some things wont do. currently i was trying to undo the codecs, i installed in totem. it now only crashes, when i try to play a dvd. previous 7.10 didnt make so much troubles
[05:30] <fde> strN00B: I'm not... haha... just saying, all directories have to be executable to open them
[05:30] <fde> strN00B: what exactly is your issue currently?
[05:31] <Buhmanator> good afternoon everyone
[05:31] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a touchpad synaptic/touchpad issue?
[05:31] <fde> strN00B: wrt permissions... the first bit means user, second is group, third is other... so if you set the last bit to 0, it will be pretty secure
[05:31] <Chunky_Ks> Evening everyone. I've been using ATI drivers and installing them by hand since 8.8 or so. I use the instructions here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide . Up to now, it has been working fine, but since I tried to install 8.11, I can no longer get my drivers to work at all, and I alwys end up in 800x600. Can anyone suggest what might be at issue?
[05:31] <hmw> hah
[05:32] <strN00B> fde, just messing around with samba configure file.
[05:32] <Chubbz> @chunky have you checked your xorg.conf?
[05:32] <Chunky_Ks> yes
[05:32] <Buhmanator> Chunky_Ks, ever used the 1-click ymp?
[05:32] <Chunky_Ks> repeatedly.
[05:32] <Chunky_Ks> ymp?
[05:32] <fde> strN00B: basic maths for finding the number.... 4 = read 2 = write 1 = execute... add them together for the total value, each no more than once
[05:32] <hmw> a reboot helped, tritium. after messing around and installing different stuff, now it plays the dvd. arr. i mistyped your name, if you want to read my previous response.
[05:32] <Buhmanator> Yast Meta Package aka 1 click installer
[05:32] <grendal_prime> i need to kill a user from the command line. ...grrr there was an app i use to use to do this..console app and i cant remember what its called
[05:32] <strN00B> fde, yes i have my Unix book in front me
[05:32] <fde> strN00B: great
[05:33] <orudie> hi, can anyone recommend a reliable domain name registration service ?
[05:33] <Buhmanator> http://en.opensuse.org/ATI
[05:33] <GeminiK> ok in my session apperently the last line I get is leaving restore TV, then nothing *sigh, its been 4 hours with this, anybody have a clue?
[05:33] <Chunky_Ks>  then nothing
[05:33] <Chubbz> @orudie dyndns.org
[05:33] <strN00B> fde, i chmod to 770 and my vista OS can no longer access the netlogon dir
[05:33] <Chunky_Ks> mt
[05:33] <tritium> hmw: ah, thanks.  I did miss it.  Glad it worked.
[05:33] <fde> strN00B: there is no reason why it wouldn't
[05:33] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a touchpad synaptic issue?
[05:33] <Buhmanator> Vista!?!
[05:33] <Buhmanator> Who uses vista?
[05:33] <fde> strN00B: its owned by the sambausers group (or whatever its called) ?
[05:34] <strN00B> fde not sure.. i can look into it
[05:34] <hmw> tritium: next issue would be to DISABLE that annoying clone mode. before i messed around, i got compiz with only one screen, then i accidently installed the suggested better drivers (fglrx) and now i cant get rid of the clone mode. radeon 9600
[05:34] <darkdeeper> "skill -KILL -u didi"
[05:34] <Buhmanator> if anything you should just go XP+DX10+VTP
[05:34] <darkdeeper> didi is the username
[05:34] <fde> strN00B: ls -l the directory you're trying to share
[05:34] <fde> strN00B: give me an example line from that output
[05:34] <Buhmanator> and then you've basically remade vista in about 10 seconds
[05:34] <GeminiK> Buhmanator: my brother uses vista, hes using it right now in fact
[05:35] <Chubbz> @buhmanator how do you install dx10?
[05:35] <Chubbz> on xp?
[05:35] <Buhmanator> I've done it myself
[05:35] <fde> Chubbz: ##windows
[05:35] <Buhmanator> though I had no shader model 4
[05:35] <Chubbz> ic
[05:35] <Buhmanator> so I couldn't exactly test it
[05:35] <strN00B> fde since i chmod 770  my user cannot even open the dir ;x
[05:35] <Chubbz> my bad fde.
[05:35] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a touchpad synaptic issue?
[05:35] <Buhmanator> but on xp, dxdiag does indeed report dx10
[05:35] <fde> strN00B: is user in the sambausers group?
[05:36] <Buhmanator> but it involves stealing stuff from vista service pack 1
[05:36] <fde> Buhmanator: please take that discussion to pm or ##windows
[05:36] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a rather complicated touchpad synaptic issue?
[05:36] <fde> Buhmanator: you can take vista libs via wineconf > libraries tab
[05:36] <GeminiK> what is the package for that loggin window?
[05:37] <strN00B> fde drwx------ 2 root    root    16384 2008-11-21 20:23 lost+found
[05:37] <strN00B> -rwxr--r-- 1 stephen stephen    38 2008-11-22 00:29 New Text Document.txt
[05:37] <fde> GeminiK: you probably mean 'gdm'
[05:37] <Buhmanator> fde wine? we were talking dx10 on windows xp
[05:37] <fde> strN00B: thats why... sudo chgrp sambashare /path/to/file
[05:37] <GeminiK> fde: I purged that thing and reinstalled it, for some reason when I click options it just restarts it
[05:38] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a rather complicated touchpad synaptic issue?
[05:38] <Buhmanator> ahh
[05:38] <Buhmanator> I see now they are doing it out of the DX10 sdk
[05:38] <Buhmanator> which makes much more sense
[05:38] <fde> strN00B: then useradd -G sambashare <username>
[05:38] <Flannel> fde, strN00B: wait!
[05:39] <fde> strN00B: (should be in there by default)
[05:39] <frybye> re: if i want my system to run fsck on rebooting - before the partition is mounted .. how do i tell it to do this.. just giving the command in a console produces a warning that running e2fsck on a mounted system can case bad damage etc..??
[05:39] <fde> Flannel: why?
[05:39] <fde> Flannel: for samba to access a file, it needs to be owned by the sambashare group... what is the problem?
[05:39] <Flannel> fde, strN00B: You don't want to use useradd with -G without -a.  You'll hose all of your non-primary groups (including sudoers).    adduser is probably a safer choice.  adduser user group
[05:40] <alkero> frybye: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[05:40] <Dabbu> can anyone help me to setup a apache http server ???
[05:40] <GeminiK> fde: do you know the package for Xorg?
[05:40] <fde> Flannel: hmm
[05:40] <Buhmanator> haha
[05:40] <frybye> alkero: thanks pal...
[05:40] <Buhmanator> 2006 vaporware: "DirectX 9.L will be a DirectX 10 for Windows XP"
[05:40] <fde> GeminiK: xorg
[05:40] <alkero> frybye: google pal...
[05:40] <Flannel> Buhmanator: Please take the windows discussions elsewhere, thanks.
[05:40] <Buhmanator> you're welcome
[05:40] <alkero> (:
[05:41] <root______> am i here ?
[05:42] <strN00B> fde Thank you!! I can now access with chmod 770
[05:42] <GeminiK> fde: what is the package for the ati driver?
[05:42] <strN00B> Flannel, i didnt need to adduser.. I was already there :) ty for the heads up
[05:42] <alkero> Hello. I have Debian Etch system with standard out-of-box PAM auth and a Dovecot imapd on it. I need PAM to successfully authentify a user "user" if he logs in as "user" or as "user@somedomain" or as "user@whateverelse", with same password, UID and home directory. How can I?
[05:42] <alkero> (done my googling homework already)
[05:42] <fde> strN00B: you're welcome... can you please type 'groups' to make sure I didn't mess something up... just paste the output here, as it'll be one line
[05:43] <hyde> I am running ubuntu 8, can I install puppy linux while I am running ubuntu 8?
[05:43] <darkdeeper> what is puppy linux?
[05:43] <darkdeeper> ha??
[05:43] <nintendork32> hyde: may i pm you
[05:43] <root______> alkero is there a reason you are asking debian questions in #ubuntu ?
[05:43] <hyde> nintendork32: sure.
[05:44] <strN00B> stephen adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[05:44] <GeminiK> anybody know what the package for the ati driver is?
[05:44] <strN00B> fde: stephen adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[05:44] <hyde> darkdeeper: it is a small linux distr that would allow me to use GUI, my pc is really poor.
[05:44] <alkero> root______: yes, unfortunatly. nobody answers on debian and general linux channels
[05:44] <fde> strN00B: alright, that's fine
[05:44] <GeminiK> oh when I use apt-get purge does that get rid of the config files?
[05:44] <Charitwo> strN00B: stop repeating yourself
[05:45] <strN00B> Charitwo: go bother someone who cares :D
[05:45] <root______> alkero ok.    well good luck with it here.   that's a little deeper than this channel normally gets.
[05:45] <strN00B> fde: know any good sites i can get more information on samba? and security issues associated?
[05:45] <nintendork32> hyde read my PM
[05:45] <nintendork32> on IRC that is
[05:46] <orudie> i'm in the middle of registering a domain name, and its asking me for nameserver, not sure what they mean
[05:46] <alkero> root______: after several hours googling, hope still dies last (:
[05:46] <hyde> nintendork32: how can I read it? I am not familar with using irssi.
[05:46] <nintendork32> hmm
[05:46] <nintendork32> look arounf
[05:46] <nintendork32> ill resend it
[05:46] <mEck0> hi! I can list the shares of my HP laptop from my Mac, though can't connect/mount using smb://"ip-address" in Finder (file-manager). what could be the problem? seems that something isn't correctly configured in smb.conf?
[05:46] <nintendork32> there i resent it
[05:47] <fde> strN00B: not really tbh... just google smb.conf
[05:47] <mEck0> I think something at least is missing on my gnu/linux machine
[05:47] <strN00B> fde: thanks
[05:47] <hyde> nintendork32: ok, trying to figure out how to read it ..
[05:48] <nintendork32> hyde: let me install irssi and ill see
[05:48] <nintendork32> i suggest xchat though
[05:48] <nintendork32> sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:48] <root______> alkero understood.     wish i could help with that. but i have never setup a mail server and am all but network illiterate anyway.
[05:49] <hyde> nintendork32: I can't run X windows, I am using DELL latitude LS, 128M RAN
[05:49] <hyde> no cdrom, no floppy
[05:49] <ziroday> Hi, after browsing the web for around 30 minutes the computer completely freezes up. Any idea's?
[05:49] <hyde> I am lucky to be able to install ubuntu previously on it.
[05:49] <darkdeeper> hyde, on ur puppy linux or what?
[05:49] <alkero> root______: i came to conclusion tha it can't be done with dovecot's resources, so it became a general PAM question
[05:49] <strN00B> LOL
[05:49] <root______> is it possable to setup an email server for one account, on a dynamic ip that would let me "send" emails  ?     i have no email at all as it stands now?
[05:50] <strN00B> !helpersnack | fde
[05:50] <fde> strN00B: haha... thank you
[05:50] <hyde> darkdeeper: I am trying to install puppy linux on this thing so that I would be able to run X window
[05:50] <nintendork87> ok hyde
[05:50] <nintendork87> ill pm myself and see
[05:50] <ari_stress> hi hi, wazzup? :)
[05:51] <alkero> root______: it is possible, but the other mail servers will think u're a spammer, the use to have dynamic IP's in blacklists
[05:51] <alkero> root______: use gmail of web hosting server as "smarthost" to relay your mails
[05:51] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a rather complicated touchpad synaptic issue?
[05:52] <root______> alkero would i need an account on gmail for that ?
[05:52] <nintendork32> hyde: type /query nintendork32
[05:52] <alkero> root______: sure you do
[05:52] <Chubbz> @hyde do you not have a graphical install of ubuntu up already?
[05:53] <claudino62> hallo
[05:53] <root______> but if i had an account on gmail then i wouldn't be trying to think of a way to send without it... ;/
[05:53] <Chubbz> @Mecko do you have all your ports open 137-139 and 445
[05:54] <darkdeeper> hyde, maybe ur puppy linux is just text base??
[05:54] <alkero> root______: btw, they provably have a limit on how many mails you can send in a hour. so if you plan to do a mailing list broadcast, better use a web hosting. If you try to spam, they will ban you soon
[05:54] <maser> buenas noches alguien sabe español?
[05:54] <maser> buenas noches alguien sabe español?
[05:54] <maser> buenas noches alguien sabe español?
[05:54] <FloodBot1> maser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <Chubbz> !spanish maser
[05:54] <Chubbz> lawl
[05:54] <root______> alkero yeah spam is not the plan
[05:55] <Flannel> root______: You know you can get one, right?  A gmail account
[05:55] <darkdeeper> !sp | maser
[05:55] <bimberi> !es | maser
[05:55] <faryshta> maser, unete a la seccion en español
[05:55] <maser> si español
[05:55] <maser> como me uno
[05:55] <root______> Flannel without confirmation address ?          but i really don't want one tho.
[05:55] <faryshta> maser, escribe /join ubuntu-es
[05:55] <Flannel> root______: Then that
[05:55] <darkdeeper> !es | maser
[05:55] <alkero> root______: "smarthost" and "relay" are your keywords then.
[05:56] <Dabbu> can i upgrade ubuntu 8.04 desktop to 8.04 server if i have 8.04 server cd
[05:56] <Dabbu> ?
[05:56] <root______> alkero ok.  thanks.   /me goes to read up
[05:56] <maser> acabo de instalar ubuntu 8.10 y necesito ayuda con los messengers
[05:56] <alkero> root______: welcome
[05:56] <Chubbz> anyone know the apt-get commands to upgrade kernel?
[05:56] <oOarthurOo> Chubbz: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <Flannel> !english | maser
[05:57] <Chubbz> thnx
[05:57] <faryshta> Dabbu, you can install the packages of the server from the cd of the server.
[05:57] <root______> Chubbz you can also specify package version.
[05:57] <faryshta> actually you can install the packages from internet without the cd.
[05:57] <root______> Chubbz latest is default.
[05:57] <doc|home> I have an xps m1330 and I'm trying to get ekiga working on it. Have plugged in a mic/headset but I'm getting no audio recording. Same result with arecord. anyone got any suggestions?
[05:57] <oOarthurOo> Chubbz: That command will require 'sudo'
[05:58] <root______> .* require super user rights
[05:58] <GeminiK> I reinstalled xorg and gdm I still get the same problems :*(, do I really have to reinstall the damn thing and loose all my settings?!?!?!!
[05:58] <Chubbz> @root im using .19 atm, want to upgrade to latest to see if it corrects a driver error
[05:59] <root______> GeminiK what problem ?
[05:59] <PanicByte> hey, has anybody been experiencing problems with Rhythmbox freezing since the 8.10 upgrade?
[05:59] <faryshta> Chubbz, the current is 2.6.27-7.16 if you want the kernel 2.6.28 you will have to compile it yourself which I don't recommend.
[05:59] <Jason_> doc|home, have you turned up the mic volume? The volume is independent of your speakers. right click the speaker at the top right of the screen and choose preferences.
[05:59] <deselby9> hi all good people
[06:00] <Chubbz> @GeminiK did you set your xorg.conf correctly?
[06:00] <GeminiK> root______: *sigh I when I try to log on I only get mouse and BG, cant fix it and I don't know what I did wrong :(
[06:00] <doc|home> Jason_: I don't have mic volume as an option there
[06:00] <GeminiK> root______: did I get the name right?
[06:01] <deselby9> I have problem with sound ... its just crippling nose .. it used to work even after I upgraded 8.10
[06:01] <Chubbz> @faryshta any command to see which kernel im using atm? i'mnot actually sure its 2.6.19
[06:01] <doc|home> Jason_: actually, I do, both are tied to each other and up to full volume
[06:01] <root______> GeminiK login to a console and    sudo adduser blah      see if it's system wide or user specific
[06:01] <deselby9> so I would ask how to troubleshoot
[06:01] <p4_> ok i was being a little sook this morning, ibex isn't actually too bad
[06:01] <GeminiK> root______: yes it is tried that
[06:01] <root______> GeminiK but is which ?
[06:02] <faryshta> Chubbz, what version of ubuntu you have?
[06:02] <faryshta> and the command you want is "uname -r"
[06:02]  * root______ should remember to ask only questions that can be answered with "yes or no"
[06:02] <GeminiK> root______: ? I tried adduser, didn't work same mouse an BG prob, only loads that
[06:03] <root______> GeminiK ok so when you try to graphically login to the new user account you get no desktop ?
[06:03] <Jason_> doc|home, and mute is disabled (right click speaker icon, select "open volume control", ensure Mic is not muted
[06:03] <GeminiK> root______: no desktop exept BG and mouse
[06:03] <oOarthurOo> GeminiK: There is no need to reinstall. If you have gnome desktop for instance, just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, which will download any packages you have accidentally or intentionally removed from a default install and install them.
[06:03] <doc|home> Jason_: it's not
[06:03] <doc|home> :/
[06:03] <root______> GeminiK ok.    and if you click the mouse   left  then right you don't see any menu or anything ?
[06:04] <nillerz> What's the package that makes it so you can hear audio from 2 different sources at the same time?
[06:04] <nillerz> like youtube and banshee? Anyone know?
[06:04] <GeminiK> o0arthur0o: tried ubuntu-desktop, not sure I was messing with some packages
[06:04] <doc|home> Jason_: what does "mic as output" do?
[06:04] <iHope> just installed LAMP, but server can not serves .php file, it asks me to download. any solution in the apache.conf?
[06:04] <cvd-pr> Hello
[06:04] <root______> GeminiK ?
[06:05] <oOarthurOo> GeminiK: Post your latest xorg.log to pastebin... you'll find it in /var/log
[06:05] <GeminiK> root______: checking right now
[06:05] <deselby9> is it so that pulseaudio does not work ?
[06:05] <root______> GeminiK ok.
[06:05] <deselby9> or what might be the reason I dont have sounds
[06:05] <root______> oOarthurOo it may not be an xorg issue.
[06:05] <nillerz> What's the package that makes it so you can hear audio from 2 different sources at the same time?
[06:05] <iHope> i just did this: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[06:06] <GeminiK> o0arthur0o: How would I do that from irssi?
[06:06] <darkdeeper> !irssi
[06:06] <root______> GeminiK with  "pastebinit"
[06:06] <Jason_> doc|home, i would assume that would set the mic as the recording device
[06:06] <darkdeeper> ohokey
[06:06] <Chubbz> can anyone help me with a rather complicated touchpad synaptic issue?
[06:06] <Jason_> doc|home, on my system i see several devices including two capture devices with independent mic settings
[06:06] <root______> !info pastebinit > GeminiK
[06:06] <Roasted> Anybody good with Emerald? I got a basic question.
[06:07] <doc|home> Jason_: should the mic not be an input?
[06:07] <GeminiK> root______: nothing on menus, pastebinit?
[06:07] <root______> GeminiK     ^
[06:07] <GeminiK> root______: ok have to install it hold on
[06:07] <Jason_> doc|home, it should
[06:07] <doc|home> so mic as output should be off?
[06:08] <darkdeeper> !touchpad
[06:08] <Jason_> doc|home, sorry, I don't have a similar system here to test. My gf has a XPS 1550 but not here.
[06:08] <doc|home> Jason_: no worries, has she gotten the mic working on hers?
[06:08] <doc|home> this is a plug in mic, not the built in one
[06:09] <root______> GeminiK pastebinit is a python script that can paste files, or read stdin, and paste it to the ubuntu pastebin; and then gives you an url to give us.
[06:09] <darkdeeper> how do i know my buildin mic not working
[06:09] <morth_> Hello Room.
[06:10] <Jason_> doc|home, not sure, she runs vista - but I can always run the live-cd and see if it works. As long as the drivers support your system and the mic setting is correct, it shouldn't matter if the mic is internal or external (I would think).
[06:10] <GeminiK> root______: http://pastebin.com/f16435f89
[06:10] <GeminiK> did that work?
[06:10]  * root______ notes that with a little creative icr commanding one can pastebin from the irc client and have it post the url   but that's not really a good idea in here.
[06:11] <faryshta> !webcam
[06:11] <root______> GeminiK yes.  looking.
[06:11] <GeminiK> root______: lol ok don't know many irc commands, and I'm on the text irc XD
[06:11] <doc|home> Jason_: hmmm, ok, well, thanks anyway
[06:11] <hmw> whats the name of the catalyst control center for ubuntu?
[06:11] <faryshta> !videoconference
[06:11] <Jason_> doc|home, sorry i couldn't be more useful
[06:12] <hmw> i mean the packages name
[06:12] <faryshta> !videochat
[06:12] <Jason_> doc|home, did you have it working on a prior version of Ubuntu (or another linux distro)?
[06:12] <faryshta> !videoconversation
[06:12] <jomacki> anyone know the version of ubuntu that is installed on asus eee pcs, or those tiny dell laptops? is there an easy way to change it so you have a desktop?
[06:12] <p4_> eeebuntu
[06:13] <tritium> !botabuse | faryshta
[06:13] <jomacki> sweet, i'll look that up
[06:13] <root______> GeminiK yeah it doesn't look like an xorg error.     go back to the login screen  and login but slect the session there and see if it helps.
[06:13] <GeminiK> root______: select session?
[06:14] <GeminiK> root______: in options?
[06:14] <root______> GeminiK there is a menu   yes
[06:14] <p4_> jomacki, while installing eeebuntu is going to be nice, you should be able to just switch into advanced mode if all you want is a desktop
[06:14] <faryshta> tritium, I am really trying to get help about video conferences.
[06:14] <GeminiK> root______: lol that doesnt work, it restarts gdm
[06:14] <faryshta> Don't be paranoid.
[06:14] <root______> GeminiK ?
[06:14] <jomacki> p4, you mean in advanced mode while installing?
[06:15] <tritium> faryshta: I'm not paranoid.  You're spamming the channel, when you could be trying to find that info discretely in a /query with ubottu.
[06:15] <GeminiK> root______: yea, when I click options I think gdp stops and restarts
[06:15] <jomacki> was wondering if it's possible to do it while in the os
[06:15] <GeminiK> root______: sometimes muiltiple times
[06:15] <p4_> yes, you can jomacki. which version are you running now
[06:15] <GeminiK> root______: tried reinstalling gdm from apt get by purging it, not sure if that gets rid of confs
[06:16] <jomacki> brb, i'll check
[06:16] <p4_> kk
[06:16] <root______> GeminiK pastebin /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[06:16] <scientes> why doesnt apt-cdrom work with isos?
[06:16] <GeminiK> root______: ok jsut a sec
[06:17] <tennerbaum> Flannel I got help from the dudes of debian irc
[06:17] <jomacki> software version eee pc <IP_ADDRESS>-a
[06:17] <tennerbaum> Flannel I got help from the dudes of debian irc
[06:17] <root______> scientes it can,  you'll need to define the loop mount in fstab though,   and specify the mountpoint on the apt-cdrom command
[06:17] <scientes> its loop mounted in fstab
[06:17] <scientes> and i did pecify in apt-cdrom the mount point
[06:17] <GeminiK> root______: http://pastebin.com/f4bf83816
[06:17] <GeminiK> root______:
[06:18] <tennerbaum> Flannel the solution to synaptic package proble was simply deleting the files in /var/cache/apt/ with the exception of /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:18] <GeminiK> root______: did that work?
[06:18] <faryshta> tritium, show me, the only querys I know are the !infowant
[06:18] <scientes> /home/data/distros/ubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso /media/distro iso9660 noauto,user,exec,utf8,loop 0 0
[06:18] <root______> GeminiK looking.
[06:18] <p4_> that sounds like the xandros version jomacki
[06:19] <tritium> faryshta: just drop it, and investigate ubottu in private when you don't know if the factoid exists or not.
[06:19] <jomacki> oh, thought it was ubuntu, default theme is that ubuntu brown
[06:20] <p4_> oh whoops sorry ok nice
[06:21] <faryshta> tritium, you realize that what you are saying is not helping right?
[06:21] <tritium> faryshta: DROP IT!
[06:21] <root______> GeminiK ok  that config is clean.  the options menu "should" not restart gdm.   i'm not sure what you have going on there.    btw as per the question you asked about having to lose settings if you reinstall you don't have too.  if your home is on another partition/disk just don't format it...  or if not then   "sudo tar -czf /backup_of_my_home.tgz /home"    and save the tarball backup some place until you finish reinstalling.
[06:21] <faryshta> that is what I was doing, asking about video conferences.
[06:21] <GeminiK> root______: not sure if it would help, but this is what I was doing last, I created a new user to test having home on an ntfs partition, when I logged in it gave me a dialoge that I forgot I just pressed ok, then I installed shiki-colors with the automatic program, tried to switch back to my main user an that was it
[06:21] <Chubbz> take your flame wars elseware
[06:22] <QuiescentWonder> can someone else tell me if this works for them? http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk/theFinalCut/
[06:22] <root______> GeminiK pastebin the output of    mount
[06:22] <GeminiK> root______: huh?
[06:22] <root______> GeminiK do this for me...       mount | pastebinit
[06:22] <GeminiK> root______: k
[06:23] <p4_> it says ubuntu when it boots?
[06:23] <GeminiK> root______: http://pastebin.com/f25920eec
[06:23] <p4_> *buntu
[06:24] <p4_> etc
[06:25] <root______> GeminiK one more please;    grep $USER /etc/passwd | pastebinit
[06:25] <likano> hola
[06:25] <GeminiK> root______: k jsut a sec
[06:25] <likano> hola
[06:26] <likano> hola
[06:26] <zesta> greetings
[06:26] <likano> hola
[06:26] <oOarthurOo> GeminiK: There actually is a strange entry in there about not finding any core input devices.
[06:26] <root______> !es > likano
[06:26] <Chubbz> !es | likano
[06:26] <oOarthurOo> GeminiK: Have you messed with xorg.conf?
[06:26] <IAMDANIAM> Noob with sound issues. no sound in you tube??
[06:26] <root______> oOarthurOo xorg is working
[06:26] <nickh> Anyone know of a _decent_ plugin to read/write .mht (MIME HTML) files in Firefox?  The options on Google and SourceForge are somewhat lacking.
[06:26] <zesta> I'm a pretty technical user, but am fairly new to Ubuntu
[06:26] <zesta> got a couple issues that I am trying to nail down
[06:27] <hmw> hallelujah! my radeon no longer clones pffff
[06:27] <GeminiK> root______: http://pastebin.com/f87352a1
[06:27] <zesta> 1. how do I get it to allow me to statically assign the network settings?
[06:27] <root______> looking
[06:27] <zesta> it keeps resetting to DHCP upon reboot
[06:27] <zesta> (8.10 btw)
[06:28] <GeminiK> o0arthur0o: don't think I have, I reinstalled xorg as a result of my fustration though
[06:28] <alkero> zesta: what have you tried?
[06:28] <GeminiK> o0arthur0o: not sure if that changes conf, i use purge in apt-get
[06:28] <root______> GeminiK ok.  i don't know what you broke.    your statement about users in NTFS space had me thinking i had found it.  but that's not it.
[06:28] <zesta> going to the network settings and selecting manual instead of dhcp
[06:28] <zesta> filling out the right stuff
[06:28] <nathanbw> Is there any known issue with 8.10 and the broadcom 4309 wireless card? lsci is here: http://pastebin.ca/1264159 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' reports the interface is down, and I don't know how to bring it up
[06:29] <root______> GeminiK yes that changes the xorg.conf   and your xorg log indicates that the problem is not xorg
[06:29] <zesta> I cant seem to find an actual config file like every other distro has
[06:29] <GeminiK> root______: well its ok, im really tired, backing up home doesn't sound that bad
[06:29] <alkero> zesta: do you save your settings after that?
[06:29] <IAMDANIAM> Complete NOOB having sound issuse
[06:30] <Mr_Fixit> hey guys.. after upgrading to 8.10 i realized alsamixer has next to no options or controls.. as a matter of fact it just has master control.. the problem I'm having is identifying the different audio ports on my laptop to configure skype properly...
[06:30] <zesta> there is no 'save', just 'OK'
[06:30] <J2000_ca> Does anyone know a reason why .config files wouldn't be loaded / how / when they are loaded? e.g. .ssh
[06:30] <alkero> zesta: lemme check my setup
[06:31] <GeminiK> root______: fortunately that shoudn't take long most of my data is on the ntfs drive should I correctly say
[06:31] <zesta> a simple config file would do fine, I dont need the graphical crap
[06:31] <zesta> I just cant find anything like that
[06:32] <GeminiK> root______: ok backing up now
[06:32] <alkero> zesta: shut down your network manager, and go edit /etc/network/interfaces then (:
[06:32] <altnrgy> is there a way i can get i.ibex to remember open the windows that were open upon logging off?
[06:33] <GeminiK> root______: were is it going to put the tarball by the way?
[06:33] <root______> GeminiK  /
[06:33] <Chubbz> @altnrgy hibernate
[06:33] <p4_> later
[06:33] <root______> GeminiK you'll need to move or copy it to your ntfs partition    for safe keeping
[06:34] <GeminiK> root______: oh, im going have to move it, how would I check the mounts I have so I can choose, yea the ntfs :)
[06:34] <altnrgy> that is one way, but i was thinking more if the os freezes in some way or another, and i have to do a complete shut down... is there a way it could remember then?
[06:34] <zesta> how do you completely get rid of the network manager?
[06:34] <zesta> and why does it suck so bad?
[06:35] <Chubbz> @altnrgy not that i can think of now
[06:35] <Chubbz> @zesta it sucking and you not knowing how to use it are two different things
[06:35] <root______> GeminiK  sudo cp /backup* /media/Windows      or  sudo cp /backup* /media/Western     both are already mounted.
[06:35] <alkero> zesta: apt-get remove --purge. you also may just diable "roamig mode" for wired connection, that should work
[06:35] <alkero> disable
[06:36] <zesta> Chubbz: can you tell me how to get it to stop resetting back to DHCP every reboot? :)
[06:36] <Mr_Fixit> hey guys.. after upgrading to 8.10 i realized alsamixer has next to no options or controls.. as a matter of fact it just has master control.. the problem I'm having is identifying the different audio ports on my laptop to configure skype properly...
[06:36] <bitmouse> anybody here a dual-boot master? I'm having a problem getting a dual boot set up with an older computer with a 1028 cylinder boundary limit
[06:36] <ijustam> anyone had trouble with their titlebars since 8.10?
[06:36] <root______> GeminiK the untaring would look something like    " cd / ;sudo tar -xzf /media/Western/backup* "
[06:36] <GeminiK> root______: heh nice, I should learn how to read those logs and confs :)
[06:37] <GeminiK> root______: k writing down
[06:37] <doc|home> Jason_: sorry, was eating. Nope, new laptop, never used any other distro with it
[06:37] <root______> GeminiK i didn't actually answer your Q and it would be better if you knew how.  so    command   mount    will show you what is mounted where
[06:37] <bullgard4> bitmouse: "I'm having a problem getting a" is no exact description. Please state the error message that you obtained.
[06:38] <alkero> zesta: works?
[06:38] <root______> GeminiK so will    df -h
[06:38] <nathanbw> Can anybody help me get the broadcom 4309 wireless card working in 8.10? Is ndiswrapper required?
[06:39] <Ratchet--> hello
[06:39] <QuiescentWonder> is there some way i can see how big each folder on my hdd is?
[06:39] <J2000_ca> I'm auto mounting my home directory with libpam-mount, all the files show up fine but it's not loading the config files (firefox, ssh, wine, etc.). Anyone have any idea how to debug? I'm not even sure how configs normally get loaded.
[06:39] <root______> speaking of mounts    i have a question for who ever can answer.    why does /proc/mounts say that /sys is mounted when /sys doesn't exist ???
[06:39] <Ratchet--> I am roaming for help getting a decent dock for ubuntu.
[06:39] <root______> anyone ?
[06:39] <QuiescentWonder> i mean, have a list of every folder and be able to sort by size
[06:39] <ziroday> QuiescentWonder: every single folder?
[06:39] <ziroday> Ratchet--: take a look at avant-window-navigator
[06:39] <alkero> QuiescentWonder: man du, du -csh /path/to/folder
[06:39] <ziroday> QuiescentWonder: in a command line or gui?
[06:39] <bitmouse> the problem is multitude, but I think it stems from my confusion of how to setup the partitions properly, and the correct way to carry out the various installs, basically my bios is old enough that it can't read beyond the first 512mbs, so I have to put my boot partition there, but i am wondering if XP also has to have it's boot files within that space as well.
[06:40] <Ratchet--> ziroday:  I am very new to Ubuntu. Life isn't as simple as that. Where is this at?
[06:40] <QuiescentWonder> in a gui, preferably. i'm just trying to figure out where all the crap is so i can clean it up
[06:40] <QuiescentWonder> i'm not very organized
[06:40] <bitmouse> I could put XP in the  begining but I would prefer to have a separate boot partition
[06:40] <ziroday> Ratchet--: sure, you can install the package from the repos
[06:40] <ziroday> QuiescentWonder: Look at the program in Applications > Accesories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[06:41] <Ratchet--> ziroday: I don't understand. I am looking for instructions on getting Kxdocker, as the instructions are unclear.
[06:41] <QuiescentWonder> ah, thanks. i didn't know about that
[06:41] <ziroday> Ratchet--: so you want kxdocker as a dock or avant-window-navigator (awn) as a dock?
[06:41] <Ratchet--> ziroday: KxDocker.
[06:42] <altnrgy> ok.... i dual boot... and i want to be able to switch between ibex and vista and have ibex remember which programs were running at the time i logged off, and then have them reopen in their previous configuration when i log back in... does anyone know how to do this?????
[06:42] <ziroday> Ratchet--: are you using kde?
[06:42] <GeminiK> root______: well seems like i'm set, I guess breaking my system was bound to happen, I had it running for a really long time, did the online upgrade from 8.04 :)
[06:42] <Ratchet--> ziroday: Grub Ubuntu.
[06:42] <Ratchet--> ziroday: Not sure what KDE is, and whether or not I got it.
[06:42] <morth_> Anyone got Ventrilo to work on Ubuntu?
[06:42] <zesta> Hmm
[06:42] <GeminiK> root______: anyways I really appreciate you profesionalism, It's just aswome that you helped :)
[06:43] <zesta> I'd really like to get this to work the "official" way since we are looking to deply ubuntu on many more machines
[06:43] <ziroday> Ratchet--: okay, I'll take that as Ubuntu (Gnome) instead of Kubuntu (KDE)
[06:43] <Ratchet--> ziroday:  Yes, Gnome.
[06:43] <ziroday> Ratchet--: which guide are you following currently?
[06:44] <Ratchet--> ziroday:  Well, there's none on the website, which is why I got confused. I can download the source from the website, but I am unable to compile due to lack of help.
[06:44] <GeminiK> root______: and GN, he what hassle lol
[06:44] <Frogzoo> zesta: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:45] <Frogzoo> zesta: config a static ip, no need to dick around with nm
[06:45] <alkero> zesta: /etc/network/interfaces is debian-way, network-manager is fancy way
[06:45] <zesta> Frogzoo: what will nm do if I do that, though?
[06:45] <ziroday> Ratchet--: okay, kxdocker doesn't appear to be in the repositories, futhermore its designed with KDE in mind, not Gnome. I strongly you recommend you use avant-window-navigator instead
[06:45] <Frogzoo> zesta: it will mind its own business, but you can still use it to configure wireless as needed
[06:45] <zesta> it would be nice if the graphical tool that is documented and recommended worked properly for people that are less technical
[06:46] <Ratchet--> ziroday: Hmkay. I'll try that. How I get it?
[06:46] <ziroday> Ratchet--: you know how to install applications on ubunut?
[06:46] <Ratchet--> ziroday: a) Add/Remove programs list. b) sudo apt-get install <package>
[06:46] <Tim183> can I get some help please? I'm having trouble with my wifi connection. I can see all the available connections in networkmanager, but i can't connect. (the networks I have tried were all open networks)
[06:46] <Ratchet--> ziroday: all I know.
[06:46] <zesta> second question... How do I get X to save the current settings and hard set them, so that if my machine reboots while the monitor is off, it doesnt screw everything up
[06:47] <ziroday> Ratchet--: okay thats fine, the package name is avant-window-navigator. So you can install it with sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[06:47] <Ratchet--> ziroday:  okay, let me try.
[06:49] <Ratchet--> ziroday: thanks for your time and help. it worked. <3
[06:49] <morth_> Is there a way to get Ventrilo Working? on Ubuntu?
[06:49] <Greencoat1983> Doeas anyone know of a channel I can get help with songbird? and before you say it there is no songbird channel
[06:49] <ziroday> Ratchet--: great! Have fun
[06:50] <bitmouse> anybody know how to properly setup your partitions on a dual boot for an older system with a 1028 cylinder limit for the bios? basically you can only install boot files within the first 512mb of harddrive space for the bios to be able to read them.
[06:51] <Mr_Fixit> does anyone know how to test your mic?? perhaps from a terminal or a gui app?
[06:51] <ziroday> Greencoat1983: the channel is #songbird on irc.mozilla.org, you really shouldn't ask here for directions to other channels ")
[06:51] <alkero> bitmouse: make /dev/hda1 be your /boot, the rest as usual
[06:51] <ziroday> Mr_Fixit: you can use the Sound Recorder program
[06:52] <root______> does anyone know why i would be getting this error message from df >>> /bin/df: `/sys': No such file or directory
[06:53] <alkero> root______: /sys appera in /etc/mtab but not really mounted?
[06:53] <ogre> root______,  Its not recommended to use irc with super user privs
[06:53] <root______> alkero /etc/mtab is a link to /proc/mounts
[06:53] <hmw> bitmouse: to make it more clear: only the /boot partition must be < 1024 cyls
[06:53] <ziroday> root______: what command are you executing?
[06:53] <root______> ogre  yeah i know.
[06:53] <root______> ziroday df
[06:54] <umberto> ciao
[06:55] <Mr_Fixit> ok ziroday that worked.. my problem is that my laptop is using an onboard mic when i want it to use the headphone/mic.. anyways to switch this?? alsamixer is not of much use..
[06:55] <ziroday> Mr_Fixit: no clue about that, sorry
[06:55] <root______> Mr_Fixit you might be able in the mixer settings to select which input device it uses
[06:56] <GeminiK2> root______: Hey if you there I have thank you for you help, amazing stuff that you can do
[06:56] <root______> geminik  welcome.
[06:56] <Mr_Fixit> root______, you are talking about alsamixer?? it seems when i upgraded... it lost all options except for master volume control
[06:56] <alkero> root______: not in my system... maybe that's why you get the error?
[06:56] <RITN> how do i show file extentions in gnome?
[06:56] <root______> Mr_Fixit yes i was speaking of alsamixer
[06:57] <GeminiK2> root______: have now for me to sleep off the horror :), GN and thanks again
[06:57] <root______> alkero i get the error because the system thinks that /sys (non-existant dir)   is mounted...
[06:57] <Tim183> can I get some help please? I'm having trouble with my wifi connection. I can see all the available connections in networkmanager, but i can't connect. (the networks I have tried were all open networks). ubuntu 8.10 intrepid, atheros ar5007eg madwifi modules.
[06:57] <Mr_Fixit> yea root______ i dunno why.. but i don't have any thing in alsamixer... kinda redundant for a mixer when it only controls your master volume...
[06:58] <RITN> heh
[06:58] <root______> Mr_Fixit yeah...   perhaps you use pulseaudio ?
[06:58] <RITN> root you should not be logged in as root
[06:58] <PaveH> Could anyone give me a hand with an irserver issue, longer error report at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989825
[06:58] <umberto><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:58] <root______> RITN why not ?
[06:59] <root______> RITN root is a good name
[06:59] <Mr_Fixit> Tim183, i noticed that with open networks... for some reason 8.10 prefers to connect to secure networks
[06:59] <Tim183> http://paste.ubuntu.com/75550/
[06:59] <Tim183> Mr_Fixit: ah right
[06:59] <root______> RITN it's kinda generic don't you think  :)))
[06:59] <Tim183> there is another ubuntu box here connected to the same network
[07:00] <bitmouse> alright thanks for the advice I am going to try it again, for some reason windows throws all my partitions into a logical partition while Installing which I think is causing problems, cause I am having trouble booting into windows
[07:00] <Great_Gatsby> can someone help me with a sound problem
[07:00] <bitmouse> I hope it doesn't do that this time, windows is not very considerate of partition schemes, I've noticed
[07:01] <alkero> bitmouse: heh. don't let windows to partition you harddrive while installing, it always make a mess
[07:01] <Great_Gatsby> afte ra while on firefox something hijacks my sound device and i cant use it anymore
[07:01] <Great_Gatsby> and all i get is is an error saying "unable to open slave"
[07:02] <Kalidarn> okay well ive installed my nvidia drivers and... i'm not a complete newb to linux i've been able to set up archlinux and gentoo. I'm finding though with ubuntu and kubuntu the screen seems to say its running at 50-60Hz. I know it supports 85, as i've achieved that in (arch & gentoo where i manually wrote my xorg config) oh and in windows.
[07:02] <Great_Gatsby> and i hate having to restart just to get my sound working again
[07:02] <Kalidarn> direct rendering and all that works like a charm though
[07:02] <mikematic> hi all, the command "test -x lksjdfklja" returns nothing. the file lksjdfklja does not exist. Shouldn't my test command return me an error instead ?
[07:02] <Kalidarn> i really was looking for a clean solution without me having to write my own xorg config
[07:02] <Kalidarn> nvidia-settings also says it supports 85.
[07:03] <Kalidarn> and sets that modeline
[07:03] <alkero> mikematic tst does not print any outpu, it is used becouse of it's exit status
[07:04] <iHope> gedit used to be ok. but today it just stucked when i use it for a 300kb .txt copy and paste job
[07:04] <iHope> what happens to gedit ? i just intalled 8.04
[07:04] <Great_Gatsby> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave | can someone please tell me how to fix this
[07:05] <mikematic> alkero, so it would give the correct answer when used in if statement and loop conditions ?
[07:05] <Great_Gatsby> i dont see anything in ps  that looks like its using alsa
[07:06] <iHope> can you suggest any other better text editor, i do not know howto use vim, no vim please
[07:06] <alkero> mikearr: that is test's porpouse, the program must serve it's porpouse
[07:06] <root______> Great_Gatsby you wont see anything in ps
[07:06] <mikematic> tnx alkero
[07:06] <Great_Gatsby> what do i do root______
[07:06] <Great_Gatsby> this has been a problem for a while
[07:06] <alkero> mikematic: (:
[07:06] <Great_Gatsby> its pretty much the only reason i have to reboot
[07:07] <mikematic> alkero :)
[07:07] <tritium> iHope: have you tried nano?
[07:07] <bitmouse> alkero: how do I stop it from partitioning my hard drive?
[07:07] <iHope> tritium: i still could not understand why my gedit broken today :( not tried nano yet
[07:07] <iHope> only for a 300kb .txt file, it is frozen
[07:07] <root______> Great_Gatsby aplay -l     maybe
[07:07] <ubuntu> salut
[07:08] <ubuntu> salut les mecs
[07:08] <umberto> ciao
[07:08] <umberto> come ca?
[07:08] <tritium> !es
[07:08] <root______> Great_Gatsby or cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:08] <iHope> tritium: need a restart. see if it is happier..
[07:08] <root______> Great_Gatsby either should show you enough to see that you are or arent using alsa
[07:09] <alkero> bitmouse: when i have a fancy partitioning setup and have to install windows, i first boot to knoppix, make the partition, set the type to "f" and mark it as active. so when i boot windows install  CD it is recgnized as C: and the installr just have to format it
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby> card0/ cards
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby> johnny@netlink:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby>  0 [I82801DBICH4   ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby>                       Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with STAC9750,51 at irq 7
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby>  root______ ?
[07:09] <FloodBot1> Great_Gatsby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:09] <Great_Gatsby> what do i do now?
[07:09] <root______> oh my.
[07:09] <alkero> bitmouse: but, that's offtopic already
[07:09] <faryshta> !clamav
[07:09] <faryshta> !info clamav
[07:09] <root______> !intelhda > Great_Gatsby
[07:10] <root______> Great_Gatsby that "might" help.   idk.
[07:10] <bitmouse> alkero: even if I partition it with linux first, it seems to grab all the partitions anyways, perhaps leaving the space that I want as unformated, and the using gparted to move the windows partition a bit from the begining so I can pop a boot partition in there, my windows installation is seeming to demand being at the begining of the harddisk, is that off topic?
[07:10] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu  applet?
[07:10] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu applet?
[07:10] <fenerli7> i can't do simple things on linux anymore such as drag and drop and use Start+key combinations, wtf?
[07:11] <root______> bitmouse if you are using a vesta restore cd   it has an option to only use "part of the disk"
[07:11] <wartalker1> how to list the clients connect to the AP in wireless lan?
[07:11] <bitmouse> I am using a windows xp cd
[07:11] <alkero> bitmouse: heh, yes, it's not windows channel. but as a friedenly whisper, i can tell you that partitioning form linux first always works for me
[07:11] <bitmouse> with sp2 already on it
[07:12] <Tim183> can I get some help please? I'm having trouble with my wifi connection. I can see all the available connections in networkmanager, but i can't connect. (the networks I have tried were all open networks) - PM me if anyone can help, thanks
[07:12] <root______> bitmouse i have never used xp   and only vesta for one day...
[07:12] <root______> bitmouse but there is a ##windows channel here on freenode
[07:12] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu applet?
[07:13] <alkero> bitmouse: err. teh correct partition type is "7"
[07:13] <bustaplz> how would I use rsync with the dry run and recursive option?
[07:13] <n8tuser> Tim183-> if you do  sudo  iwlist  wlan0 scan  you can see these AP?
[07:13] <bustaplz> rsync -nr  or rsync -n -r
[07:13] <Senri> join /server irc.jesusrocksonirc.net
[07:14] <KEER> ？？
[07:14] <KEER> IS THERE ANYONE？
[07:14] <fenerli7> Tim183: the network manager is a bit screwy with finalising wireless connections, I sometimes get into a closer range and then move back away
[07:14] <nintendork32> Keer, hi
[07:14] <Frogzoo> yes, there is a one
[07:14] <bustaplz> THERE IS A LOT
[07:14] <nintendork32> yeah
[07:14] <bustaplz> lol
[07:14] <root______> KEER 1300 clients connected and you ask a question like that....
[07:15] <nintendork32> probably most populated channel on freenode
[07:15] <bustaplz> that guy is on the ball
[07:15] <Frogzoo> perhaps
[07:15] <nintendork32> maybe even all of irc
[07:15] <nintendork32> nah i doubt that
[07:15] <Frogzoo> 1300 max for all irc? I hope not
[07:15] <bustaplz> okay, someone tell me how to work command options because I'm apparently too silly to figure it out
[07:15]  * nintendork32 is torrenting Xubuntu
[07:15] <Frogzoo> bustaplz: comman -option1 -optionb   etc.
[07:16] <bustaplz> okay
[07:16] <root______> Frogzoo i think he meant most on one channel on all of....
[07:16] <bustaplz> i thought so =D
[07:16] <nintendork32> yeah thats what i meant ;)
[07:16] <nintendork32> ive seen 1500 here before
[07:16] <Frogzoo> root______: so did I
[07:16] <bayonet> hi
[07:16] <Frogzoo> this room has 2000 prior to a new release
[07:17] <Great_Gatsby> which is more useful if you wanted to get into exploits php or perl/
[07:17] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu applet?
[07:17] <Frogzoo> Great_Gatsby: c?
[07:17] <Tim183> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/75553/
[07:17] <root______> Great_Gatsby perl
[07:17] <Great_Gatsby> web exploits Frogzoo
[07:17] <bustaplz> by default, rsync will not delete files in the destination, right?
[07:17] <root______> oh web...
[07:17] <tritium> Great_Gatsby: don't ask that here, please.
[07:18] <Great_Gatsby> why?
[07:18] <Frogzoo> tritium: it's a legit question surely?
[07:18] <tritium> Frogzoo: no, we don't support people in pursuing exploits.  That's highly inappropriate and offtopic.
[07:18] <root______> Great_Gatsby because you didn't specify that it was for security testing your own network...
[07:18] <Frogzoo> tritium: are you a mod?
[07:18] <zzznn>
[07:19] <root______> Frogzoo magic funny hat   beware
[07:19] <n8tuser> Tim183-> you seem to only detect one AP ?
[07:19] <Tim183> yes, here at home there is only one
[07:19] <tritium> Frogzoo: that's irrelevant.  Carry on.
[07:19] <Tim183> n8tuser: occasionally i can see the neighbours
[07:19] <n8tuser> Tim183-> so what is the issue now?
[07:20] <Tim183> n8tuser: I simply cannot connect!
[07:20] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu applet?
[07:20] <wartalker1> how to list the clients connected to the AP on the wireless lan?
[07:20] <n8tuser> Tim183-> this is your AP right and its not encrypted?
[07:20] <Tim183> I am using networkmanager 0.7.0
[07:20] <nintendork32> Great_Gatsby:C++
[07:21] <nintendork32> can connect to internet ;)
[07:21] <Tim183> n8tuser: it's alright, there are currently 2 other computers connected, one an old ubuntu box and the other xp
[07:22] <n8tuser> Tim183-> 2 connected to the AP wirelessly now?
[07:22] <n8tuser> Tim183-> am getting confused when you said its alright
[07:23] <deadcat> what does it mean when i get dropped into (initramfs) during the live cd boot?
[07:23] <Tim183> n8tuser:  yes, two other computers are conencted to the AP now
[07:23] <hmw> when i move a slider in the volume control, often the link between the two channels (L/R) is released and the other thumb jumps to zero volume. I usually never want this, can I somehow "hardlock" the link or must i move the slider really that exactly to prevent this?
[07:23] <root______> brace expansion is as cool as snow cones in febuary
[07:23] <nicolah> I'm looking for some advice to buy a new video card with one gig of ram
[07:24] <Tim183> n8tuser: I am connected via ethernet currently
[07:24] <anobfuscator>  I'm having a really weird mounting issue. I have 2 spare drives in my system (identical drives). I mount both of them in the identical way. One is writeable; the other is not. both are ext2... any ideas?
[07:24] <xaqubz> hi
[07:24] <n8tuser> Tim183-> so am confused as to what you said you can not connect wirelessly... which host? perhaps you can elaborate on how many host you want connected wirelessly ?
[07:24] <hmw> to reproduce it: take one slider, move it up/down and "accidently" move horizontally
[07:25] <alkero> anobfuscator: hope, the mount point is not identical, huh?
[07:25] <root______> anobfuscator chown /mount/point
[07:25] <anobfuscator> alkero: no.. ;-)
[07:25] <root______> anobfuscator else you can chmod /mount/point
[07:25] <anobfuscator> root: ah, doh, thanks
[07:25] <root______> anobfuscator welcome
[07:26] <Tim183> n8tuser:  sorry for the confusuion..... there is one AP, there is currently 2 computers connected wirelessly (1 xp and one ubuntu). I am currently connected to the same AP via ethernet
[07:26] <root______> anobfuscator only other thing to even check is   mount | grep mount/point     to see that it's not  "ro"
[07:26] <timob> hi, booting in to single user mode from grub why can i not do mount -o remount -o ro / ?
[07:27] <timob> it gives me / busy
[07:27] <Tim183> n8tuser: i am using ubuntu 8.10, i am unable to connect to the AP wirelessly
[07:27] <root______> timob mount -no remount,ro /
[07:27] <Tim183> n8tuser: i can see the wireless network on networkmanager, but connection fails
[07:27] <n8tuser> Tim183-> which ubuntu version is able to connect via wifi?
[07:28] <Tim183> 8.10
[07:28] <fenerli7> lol
[07:28] <timob> root______: same error again
[07:28] <fenerli7> Tim183: does getting closer to the access point (probably a router) help?
[07:28] <n8tuser> Tim183-> man you are confusing as heck, one 8.10 can connect and another 8.10 cannot?
[07:28] <root______> timob losetup
[07:28] <anobfuscator> root: nope, it works now, thanks.
[07:29] <ahtmly2k> sum1 told me that mac osx is unix based... but wouldnt that mean its possible to run its software on ubuntu? (sorry if my question is stupid, but i'm newbie)
[07:29] <Tim183> fenerli7: i am sitting about 4 metres from it
[07:29] <root______> anobfuscator welcome.
[07:29] <gigel2006> How can I save profile pictures with higher resolution with pidgin ?
[07:29] <n8tuser> Tim183-> its easier for me to follow you if you have a hostname ..to avoid confusion okay?
[07:29] <Tim183> n8tuser: yes that is correct
[07:29] <Frogzoo> ahtmly2k: a lot of open source software will compile on osx
[07:29] <anobfuscator> ahtmly2k: Short answer: no. ;-)
[07:29] <fenerli7> n8tuser: no, he misunderstood the question
[07:29] <root______> ahtmly2k basicly mmm no.
[07:30] <UserC> is there a way to add the "application" menu to the awn main menu applet?
[07:30] <n8tuser> fenerli7-> yeah, its hard to follow what he is saying
[07:30] <[[MauritZ]]> hi @ll
[07:30] <ahtmly2k> bummer, i would really love to have adobe cs4 to be able to run on ubuntu
[07:30] <Tim183> n8tuser: sorry, bit of a newb
[07:30] <timob> root______: i need to mount / read only to make an image of the partition
[07:30] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: why cs4 as opposed to cs3 or do you just want adobe products?
[07:31] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: e.g. do you know about crossover?
[07:31] <fenerli7> or even wine?
[07:31] <root______> timob and losetup   didn't help?
[07:31] <djg> @list
[07:31] <n8tuser> Tim183-> okay give a name to the host that can connect, which os and version?  which one cannot connect and which os version?
[07:31] <MHz128> help! gedit is taking an unusually long time to load. its slow and crashes frequently, any ideas?
[07:31] <ahtmly2k> well yeah i mean adobe products, but since i'm using cs4 on vista, it would be nice if i didnt hafta dual boot
[07:31] <n8tuser> MHz128-> learn vim or nano  text editors
[07:31] <ahtmly2k> crossover?
[07:32] <Tim183> n8tuser: host? ummmmmmmmmmmm
[07:32] <alkero> MHz128: check memory, use memtest. check hard disk, use badclocks
[07:32] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: ok. yes, wine and crossover can be used as a compatibility layer to use windows programs
[07:32] <n8tuser> Tim183-> host == a computer
[07:32] <Tim183> lets say ryan ubuntu 8.10 <--- can connect
[07:32] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: wine usually works (http://wine.appdb.org) and crossover sometimes makes things run better, particularly with MS Office
[07:33] <fenerli7> any help on my problem? I can't drag and drop (I can see items being dragged but the drop doesn't work (tried files, toolbar buttons, text, ...). Happened all of a sudden at boot up or some time after (worked fine for months up to this point)
[07:33] <fenerli7> and had to happen when I wanted to reorganise a lot of files :p
[07:33] <Tim183> n8tuser: Tim (me) ubuntu 8.10 <--- cannot connect
[07:33] <bustaplz> any cha cha guides in here!?
[07:33] <ahtmly2k> so crossover's an app? cause wine cant handle heavy apps... i tried installing cs3 a while back
[07:33] <n8tuser> Tim183-> ryan and tim  same kind of hardware and nic cards?
[07:34] <Tim183> n8tuser: no
[07:34] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: yes, cs3 doesn't work through wine, cs2 does
[07:34] <Cpudan80> Is open office 3 available for Intrepid yet?
[07:34] <root______> fenerli7 check the log and see what packages changed between working and non-working
[07:34] <ahtmly2k> i heard vm's the only answer for heavy-duty apps
[07:34] <nintendork32> when updating it automaticly goes to 8.10 from 8.04.1 correct?
[07:34] <fenerli7> Cpudan80: through PPA repositories only afaik
[07:34] <Tim183> n8tuser: ryan uses netgear card (desktop)
[07:34] <root______> fenerli7 /var/log/dpkg.log in particular
[07:34] <nicolah> does anyone here use 9800gt nvidia chip on intrepid ? thanks
[07:34] <n8tuser> Tim183-> and tim hw and nic?
[07:34] <Cpudan80> fenerli7: Any idea when it'll be fully pushed to the repos?
[07:35] <ahtmly2k> but i dont know how to use it properly, configurations n stuff
[07:35] <fenerli7>  root______: no updates since tuesday, i've booted at least twice between last package update and now
[07:35] <Tim183> n8tuser: Tim is a laptop with the atheros ar5007eg with madwifi modules
[07:35] <Frogzoo> !wine
[07:35] <UserC> i'll put it differently..
[07:35] <fenerli7> Cpudan80: can't remember, it was mentioned on  www.ubuntugeek.com though
[07:35] <root______> fenerli7 o.O
[07:35] <Frogzoo> ahtmly2k: check appdb.winehq.com for wine compatible progs
[07:35] <nintendork32> i know this is noobish but, when updating it automaticly goes to 8.10 from 8.04.1 correct?
[07:35] <fenerli7> root______: what?
[07:36] <UserC> how to i get the main menu applet in awn to look like this: http://bp1.blogger.com/_2rbhsHEyVVg/R70EGEQi3bI/AAAAAAAAAIg/vrzv8SruLk0/s1600-h/main_menu_applet.png
[07:36] <n8tuser> Tim183-> i think the atheros chips are having issues in 8.10, google for them.. here is one version
[07:36] <Flannel> nintendork32: You can update from 8.04 to 8.10, yes.  But that's different than regular updates on 8.04
[07:36] <Tim183> n8tuser: yes i know all about that
[07:36] <fenerli7> nintendork32: no, 8.10 is the upgraded version
[07:36] <nintendork32> Flannel: should i update?
[07:36] <nintendork32> i heard its not that good
[07:36] <Tim183> n8tuser: so i bought a usb wireless dongle today, it gives em the same result
[07:37] <fenerli7> nicolah: I use an 8 series nvidia on ubuntu intrepid, but you will have better response on #nvidia
[07:37] <LSD|Ninja> This is uWhy does the "OK" button grey out in NetworkManager when I select "static"?
[07:37] <n8tuser> Tim183-> if you knew all abou that, then why ask the same question over again?
[07:37] <nintendork32> well how do i do a full update?
[07:37] <Flannel> nintendork32: Is there anything in 8.10 that strikes your fancy?  8.04 is LTS, so if you'd prefer a longer upgrade cycle, 8.04 will let you stick with it for a few years, then upgrade straight to 10.04
[07:37] <Cpudan80> nintendork32: It depends on what you need -- 8.04 is ...
[07:37] <Cpudan80> And I see that Flannel beat me to the rest
[07:37] <Cpudan80> Flannel++
[07:37] <fenerli7> nintendork32: what have you got now? 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[07:37] <QuiescentWonder> i updated, didn't have any problems
[07:38] <LSD|Ninja> 8.04 is something that starts with an 's', ends with a 't' and is high in the middle
[07:38] <Flannel> LSD|Ninja: Not helpful.
[07:38] <Tim183> n8tuser: because i believe the problem lies in networkmanager or something as theproblem comes both when i try to use the atheros chip or a usb dongle to connect
[07:38] <fde> LSD|Ninja: stablet?
[07:38] <nintendork32> fenerli7: how do i update
[07:38] <Flannel> !upgrade | nintendork32
[07:38] <nintendork32> depends idk   what i have
[07:38] <fde> LSD|Ninja: wait, never mind
[07:39] <Flannel> nintendork32: `lsb_release -a` will tell you
[07:39] <fenerli7> nintendork32: do you want to update or upgrade?
[07:39] <Cpudan80> Tim183: Is the AP using WPA2?
[07:39] <Cpudan80> Tim183: enterprise level WPA2
[07:39] <nicolah> thanks fenerli7
[07:39] <n8tuser> Tim183-> im going to ignore you, you are like trolling, you knew of atheros issues yet you insist
[07:39] <fde> LSD|Ninja: for a server, 8.04 is the best option... and if you don't plan on upgrading every 6 months, stick to it... but many things about the latest version are better, yes
[07:39] <fde> (best option as far as Ubuntu goes*)
[07:40] <Tim183> n8tuser: sorry i didnt mean to offend
[07:40] <Tim183> Cpudan80: it is an open network
[07:40] <Cpudan80> hmm
[07:40] <Cpudan80> there goes my theory
[07:41] <nintendork32> hmm
[07:41] <nintendork32> should i keep long term support?
[07:41] <Tim183> n8tuser: but even if I try to use the USB wireless dongle the result is the same, so I dont think it is an atheros issue
[07:41] <n8tuser> Tim183-> why not remove network manager, and perhaps use wicd or just old plain command line to connect
[07:42] <Flannel> nintendork32: What reason would you be upgrading for?
[07:42] <nintendork32> Flannel: what are the upgrades and benifites
[07:42] <Tim183> n8tuser: i will give wicd a try i tried it once a few months ago, but havent tried wicd with the usb dongle
[07:42] <Flannel> nintendork32: You should stick with 8.04 ;)
[07:43] <fenerli7> Flannel: wtf, why?
[07:43] <fenerli7> sorry, disregard the "wtf"
[07:43] <root______> i personally like having more than one linux system i can boot incase (which hardly ever happens anymore) i break it.
[07:43] <n8tuser> Tim183-> few months ago, 8.10 was a beta..or even perhaps an alpha..
[07:43] <Tim183> n8tuser: that was in hardy
[07:44] <nintendork32> Flannel, really? what is in the new one?
[07:44] <nintendork32> should i always stick with LTS?
[07:45] <fenerli7> nintendork32: I recommend upgrading, nice updated file manager and network manager, and lots of other small but nice things
[07:45] <nintendork32> fenerli7, cant i just update gnome?
[07:45] <fenerli7> why only gnome?
[07:45] <n8tuser> nintendork32-> dont do an upgrade if you dont need to, lest you like having issues..just hang around and see the complaints people have due to upgrade
[07:46] <nintendork32> uhm, the new ubuntu is buggy
[07:46] <UserC> how to i get the main menu applet in awn to look like this: http://bp1.blogger.com/_2rbhsHEyVVg/R70EGEQi3bI/AAAAAAAAAIg/vrzv8SruLk0/s1600-h/main_menu_applet.png
[07:46] <MHz128> How do I prevent ndiswrapper from loading during bootup?
[07:46] <fenerli7> you only want to stay with LTS if you rely on your system to be very stable, e.g. for servers
[07:46] <fenerli7> nintendork32: google "what's new in ubuntu 8.10"
[07:46] <n8tuser> MHz128-> blacklist it
[07:47] <MHz128> n8tuser, ive tried that, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist....... its still loading
[07:48] <root______> fenerli7 or if you are new to linux and need some time to explore before you have to face a console...
[07:48] <fenerli7> root______: umm... why would you need to face a console any more than before?
[07:49] <n8tuser> MHz128-> doesnt ndiswrapper have an unload command? i think it unloads it permanently...its been so long since ive used it
[07:49] <root______> fenerli7 you tell me why so many people come in here saying things like.   "just upgraded and now x wont start"
[07:49] <nitin> hi to all
[07:49] <hmw> why is my IDE drive not /dev/hdXX ?
[07:49] <hmw> i boot from sda1
[07:49] <nitin> Do anybody tell me how to configure ror on ubuntu
[07:49] <fenerli7> root______: never heard of that, sorry
[07:50] <MHz128> n8tuser, ill look it up thanks! what card you using?
[07:50] <fenerli7> root______: is the new kernel screwing with systems?
[07:50] <bn43> sda is more identified with sata drives as far as I know
[07:50] <n8tuser> MHz128-> not the infamous broadcom 43xx
[07:50] <MHz128> n8tuser, does it work with WPA?
[07:50] <hmw> bn43 my boot disk is sata, but my storage and my dvd are IDE
[07:50] <fenerli7> bn43: yes, my IDE drives are hda#, SATA are sda#
[07:51] <n8tuser> MHz128-> i dont know, i dont use WPA2
[07:51] <hmw> ls /dev/hda --> file does not exist
[07:51] <MHz128> n8tuser, WEP?
[07:51] <fenerli7>  MHz128: WPA1 works, WPA2 didn't work long ago (1 year?) but may be working now
[07:51] <bn43> then that makes sense :-)
[07:51] <rexus> hi guys, if apt-get install <pkg-name>  ends up installing all the dependencies, how can I apt-get remove <pkg-name>  so it will remove the dependencies as well?
[07:51] <Flannel> nintendork32: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview
[07:51] <n8tuser> hmw-> look into /etc/udev/rules.d/    search the udev rules there
[07:51] <root______> bn43 sd? is scsi device nodes   and that is used for ide drives if scsi emulation is enabled, or for sata in some cases and for usb disk devices in almost all cases.
[07:51] <MHz128> fenerli7, cool
[07:51] <n8tuser> MHz128-> yes
[07:51] <PaveH> I just managed to get the device node /dev/ttyUSB0 appear for my irtrans by removing brltty. It's not working properly though. Is there some background processes for brltty that might disturb the IR device also?
[07:52] <nintendork32> im updating
[07:52] <hmw> n8tuser thx
[07:52] <nintendork32> has stuff i love
[07:52] <nintendork32> !updating
[07:52] <nintendork32> !updates
[07:52] <Flannel> !upgrade | nintendork32
[07:52] <bn43> root______: ok - I don't understand the reasons fully - thanks for explaining
[07:53] <Flannel> nintendork32: Bigger version numbers doesn't mean better.  Just keep that in mind
[07:53] <bitmouse> hey is making a partition bootable, the same as toggling it active?
[07:53] <nintendork32> i know
[07:53] <bn43> root______: do you u know why there needs to be emulation?
[07:53] <nintendork32> found plenty of useful stuff
[07:54] <root______> bn43 used to help live CD's find the cd/dvd drive and hard disks
[07:54] <root______> !support > UserC
[07:54] <Frogzoo> bitmouse: linux doesn't care about bootable marked partitions
[07:55] <DoruHush> rexus:apt-get autoremove
[07:55] <sloopy> drives are labeled sda now because of a change in the drivers... there isnt scsi emulation, sdX used to mean scsi device, now you can thing it means storage device
[07:55] <root______> bitmouse linux doesn't care if you have a partition
[07:55] <nintendork32> damn
[07:55] <nintendork32> this will make my xubuntu torrent even slower
[07:55] <root______> Frogzoo too   ^
[07:55] <rexus> DoruHush: apt-get autoremove <pkg-name> ??
[07:56] <DoruHush> no, just apt-get autoremove
[07:56] <DoruHush> rexus: as root
[07:56] <root______> sloopy are you saying that the kernel no longer supports hd? devices ?
[07:57] <rexus> yes of course DoruHush, I'll be using sudo
[07:57] <DoruHush> rexus: man apt-get (for more info)
[07:57] <rexus> I read it already, I just missed that part..
[07:57] <rexus> thanks DoruHush
[07:57] <sloopy> no, i am saying the driver has been rewritten so all storage devices are accessed as sdX
[07:58] <root______> sloopy that's scsi emulation    even if it's not default
[07:58] <hmw> hmm... i dont find useful stuff on the web: my dvd playback is slightly below good (a hickup every 2 seconds) - P4 3GHz Radeon9600 Compiz
[07:58] <Tim183> n8tuser:  tried it with wicd
[07:58] <Tim183> n8tuser: no differenec
[07:58] <root______> sloopy all i'm saying is a rose by any other name...
[07:58] <n8tuser> Tim183-> now try the command line
[07:59] <sloopy> root______, read again... storage device drivers were rewriten...
[07:59] <Tim183> i will need some help with that if possible
[07:59] <root______> sloopy link ?
[07:59] <sloopy> no, there is no emulation...
[08:00] <hmw> should a P4 3GHz Radeon9600 with Compiz at 1280x1024 play DVDs perfectly fluidly?
[08:01] <root______> sloopy no  link ?
[08:01] <sloopy> google if you need proof...
[08:02] <codename> My sound suddenly stopped working, any ideas? I rebooted as well.
[08:02]  * root______ wasn't expecting proof...    just information.
[08:02] <root______> pfft
[08:02] <Tim183> n8tuser: can i get some help with that
[08:02] <n8tuser> Tim183-> with what?
[08:02] <hmw> codeane: did you check volume settings? might have gone to zero
[08:02] <sloopy> ahh it happened sometime early in the 2.6 kernel... i dont rem when, but its been a while
[08:03] <noisewaterphd> codename:plugin your speakers?
[08:03] <codename> LoL
[08:03] <codename> Yeah they're plugged in.
[08:03] <codename> Nice one though.
[08:03] <Tim183> n8tuser: command line connection
[08:03] <Tim183> n8tuser: I might have found a howto, see how i go
[08:03] <hmw> codeane noisewaterphd skype sometimes does strange things to my sound settings
[08:03] <pologtijaune> hi
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> have you done anything recently you can think of that could have triggered it?
[08:04] <n8tuser> Tim183->okay, commands are like  iwconfig,  dhclient, ifdown, ifup
[08:04] <noisewaterphd> new installs, updates etc
[08:04] <codename> It wasnt skype
[08:04] <root______> Tim183 ifup eth0     or   iwconfig blah blah blah     kind of thing ?
[08:04] <codename> I booted Nexius up
[08:04] <codename> and it didnt owrk
[08:04] <codename> after that
[08:04] <Tim183> root______: could you step me through it?
[08:05] <LinuxTryer> Hi everyone - Anyone able to help on "auth-client-config"?
[08:05] <pologtijaune> is it possible to increase the totem icon size ?
[08:05] <root______> Tim183 i'm not the one for that.   network is my weak suit
[08:05] <Tim183> root______: ok
[08:05] <hmw> LinuxTryer - here? on the support channel??
[08:05] <Greencoat1982> Does anyone know how I can add gnome-look.org as a repo so that my appearance manager can just installl them direct form the site
[08:05] <Greencoat1982> are gnomeArt.org etc.
[08:06] <hmw_> darn epic irc
[08:07] <hmw_> what happens to my epic, when i accidently press ^Z ? it lets me move my cursor and i cant get back to normal mode
[08:08] <dublpaws> hmw_: are you popped back into a terminal?
[08:08] <hmw_> LinuxTryer sorry for the sarcasm... couldnt resist... and i cant help you, again sry.
[08:08] <hmw_> dublpaws no, i can move the cursor freely in any direction
[08:08] <LinuxTryer> HMW_: :) I was making sure I was in the right place.
[08:09] <LinuxTryer> HMW_: So, i'm trying to setup open ldap but when I go with " auth-client-config -a -p open_ldap
[08:09] <LinuxTryer> I get an error
[08:09] <hmw_> LinuxTryer you might find this useful: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (no offense meant)
[08:09] <student> Hi
[08:09] <LinuxTryer> hmw_: right, brb
[08:10] <root______> hmw_   ctrl+z   puts processes in the background.     type   fg
[08:10] <[a1]_> dzup
[08:11] <hmw_> aah
[08:11] <macjason0> so i have used linux .. Slackware ,redhat , susie , and they are nice .. i also come from a mac / windows background .. i just did a demo of ubuntu and it rocks
[08:11] <macjason0> :P
[08:11] <hmw_> cool thanks root______ i need to press ^Z a second time, then i can enter commands, like fg
[08:11] <macjason0> so now i think i will just go by a laptop $700 dollars with nice specs and slap ubuntu on it
[08:11] <hmw_> root______ and this is a useful thing anyways... very cool
[08:11] <root______> hmw_  it's as old as bash
[08:12] <root______> :)
[08:12] <multiverse> Hi, I just read up on Ubuntu's Landscape, and I was wondering if an Open Source solution similiar in nature exists.  Obviously I can install Nagios and/or Zabbix onto a server.  But I am more curious if a an end to end provisioning exists, one that would allow me to manage Ubuntu AND Fedora for example.
[08:12] <hmw_> root______ sad, that i am not as old as it, too *g*
[08:12] <root______> :)
[08:12] <hmw_> root______ presuming, that it is older than 35 yrs
[08:12] <macjason0> ha anyone used k9 for ubuntu ?
[08:12] <student> what is k9 ?
[08:13] <macjason0> dvd program i think
[08:13] <LinuxTryer> hmw_: I'm trying to follow : http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10-p3 but getting an error at the end of step 9
[08:13] <timob> oops my bad i had a /swapfile for swap...
[08:13] <macjason0> student what do they have for backing up movies on ubuntu ? "legal" movies
[08:13] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[08:13] <Tim183> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/75562/ <--- manual connect failed
[08:14] <[dzup]> macjason0: blockbuster??
[08:14] <root______> timob glad you found it.   and sorry i didn't think of that,   i just don't use swap or i might have thought of it.
[08:14] <student> macjason0: Brasero
[08:14] <ahtmly2k> help; i just downloaded a file "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run" but i can't run it... how do run this kind of ext?
[08:14] <DoruHush>  macjason0: it's a good one
[08:14] <fenerli7> macjason0: xdvdshrink and k9copy for dvd9->dvd5
[08:14] <hmw_> LinuxTryer what is the problem?
[08:14] <DoruHush> macjason0: k9
[08:15] <pologtijaune> where can i found the totem irc channel ?
[08:15] <hmw_> LinuxTryer better: what error
[08:15] <fenerli7> pologtijaune: is there one?
[08:15] <ahtmly2k> help; i just downloaded a file "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.82-pkg2.run" but i can't run it... how do run this kind of ext?
[08:15] <fenerli7> pologtijaune: what's the question?
[08:15] <LinuxTryer> hmw_:
[08:15] <LinuxTryer> auth-client-config: error: option -p: invalid choice: 'open_ldap' (choose from 'ldap_example', 'lac_ldap', 'kerberos_example', 'cracklib')
[08:15] <cpk1> hmmm I just upgraded pretty much everything but my hard drives and now if I set my display to a reasonable size it starts to flicker alot any ideas?
[08:15] <pologtijaune> fenerli7, I don't know :s
[08:15] <root______> ahtmly2k you don't run an ext  you execute an executable file.    chmod 755 file.name     then   ./file.name      "inturpret file.name"
[08:15] <tta> ahtmly2k, use "sudo sh ./file.run
[08:15] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: in a terminal, "sh NVIDIA..."
[08:15] <fenerli7> yeh, sudo helps too ;)
[08:16] <root______> tta might want to make that bash  it could fail as 'sh'
[08:16] <n8tuser> Tim183->  sudo  ifdown ath0;  sudo  ifup  ath0;   if this does not get you an ip address, you can retry  using    sudo  dhclient ath0
[08:16] <fenerli7> pologtijaune just ask the question here
[08:16] <Plecebo> Anyone know a reason why when I empty the trash not all of it empties?
[08:16] <hmw_> LinuxTryer the file exists? the path correct? no type? access permissions?
[08:16] <tta> root______, yeap. might fail...
[08:16] <hmw_> LinuxTryer sorry, i dont know the software
[08:16] <ahtmly2k> will try
[08:16] <fenerli7> Plecebo: you may not have permission to delete some files? doubt that though
[08:16] <pologtijaune> fenerli7, i want to know if it is possible to increase the icon size in fullscreen mode
[08:16] <n8tuser> Tim183-> verify route is okay   if you have  a gateway with command   route -n      am off now..laters
[08:17] <fenerli7> pologtijaune: sorry, what icons are you referring to?
[08:17] <Tim183> root______:
[08:17] <Plecebo> fenerli7: I thought that too, su'd to root and tried it... same thing :(
[08:17] <root______> Tim183 ?
[08:17] <Tim183> tim@tim:~$ ~~~~sudo  ifdown ath0;  sudo  ifup  ath0;
[08:17] <Tim183> bash: ~~~~sudo: command not found
[08:17] <Tim183> Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0.
[08:17] <pologtijaune> fenerli7, the "next" and "previous" icon
[08:17] <LinuxTryer> hmw_: No worries, it's the problem of following instructions and discovering a problem :)
[08:17] <macjason0> fenerli7 ... do i still have to do apt-get or all this other stuff from my slackware days .. does linux have an easier way to find libraries etc .. ?
[08:18] <hmw_> LinuxTryer so you solved it?
[08:18] <root______> Tim183 heh   ~~~~~  is sometimes caused in a console by rolling the volume adjuster on laptops....  :)
[08:18] <Frogzoo> Tim183: lol @ sudo not found
[08:18] <fenerli7> macjason0: just install the main package (through apt-get or synaptic), the package manager gets your libraries and dependencies for you
[08:18] <root______> Frogzoo it's   ~~~~~sudo
[08:19] <Tim183> http://paste.ubuntu.com/75563/
[08:19] <macjason0> fenerli7 does it have a gui now or what ?
[08:19] <root______> Frogzoo the tilds are why
[08:19] <fenerli7> macjason0: yes, synaptic
[08:19] <Frogzoo> root______: oh, I thought it was emphasis
[08:19] <fenerli7> pologtijaune: no, not that i am aware of, you would have more luck finding a way to increase icon size for all of gnome or whatever DE you are using
[08:19] <Frogzoo> like root______
[08:19] <LinuxTryer> hmw_: Ha, nope. But I'll get my google on and explore the world of "auth-client-config", it could be a syntax change or something. It seems to say I can choose from a list of options - but not the one I want. So I'll see what others have said.
[08:19] <root______> Frogzoo no.  i have seen that many times  seeing that i use a lappy in console mode a lot
[08:19] <fenerli7> macjason0: synaptic does it for you
[08:19] <Frogzoo> root______: ah
[08:19] <ahtmly2k> how do i exit x?
[08:19] <Tim183> tim@tim:~$ sudo  ifdown ath0;  sudo  ifup  ath0;
[08:19] <Tim183> ifdown: interface ath0 not configured
[08:19] <Tim183> Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0.
[08:20] <ahtmly2k> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[08:20] <ahtmly2k>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[08:20] <ahtmly2k>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[08:20] <ahtmly2k>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[08:20] <FloodBot1> ahtmly2k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <macjason0> yea i see the screenshots fenerli7 .. wow linux has come a long way
[08:20] <hmw_> LinuxTryer i wish you luck *g* you surely didnt forget to copy the file from /etc to /etc/ldap?
[08:20] <fenerli7> macjason0: indeed
[08:20] <pologtijaune> fenerli7, no i only want to increase those icon size, like a skin or something like that
[08:20] <macjason0> fenerli7 are you running ubuntu ?
[08:20] <root______> ahtmly2k sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[08:20] <fenerli7> ahtmly2k: Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", write that down somewhere
[08:21] <macjason0> fenerli7 .. you probably are but what kind of specs you got on your computer ?
[08:21] <Tim183> ath0 not configured???
[08:21] <fenerli7> macjason0: no, arch linux
[08:21] <pologtijaune> fenerli7, is it possible to do that with a ressource file or something else
[08:21] <fenerli7>  macjason0: but used ubuntu for a fair while so i know a fair bit about it
[08:22] <macjason0> how good is linux and wifi now days ? do you still have to do the whole if en0 up and stuff still or is it all gui now ?
[08:22] <hmw_> should a P4/Radeon9600/Compiz play DVDs perfectly fluid?
[08:22] <macjason0> fenerli7 you get that ?
[08:22] <fenerli7> pologtijaune: no idea, although System > Prefs > Appearance had something about small/large icons, but "large" is normal
[08:22] <fenerli7> hmw_: yes
[08:23] <root______> hmw_ running compiz   maybe not.
[08:23] <fenerli7> macjason0: laptop with core 2 duo, 2 gb ram, 8600m gt gfx
[08:23] <macjason0> nice