[00:00] <bkc_> chris__333: o/
[00:00] <GeorgeTorwell> I kinda wish I had stuck to 12.04, it ran smoothly
[00:00] <jrib> !plymouth | vooze
[00:00] <chris__333> bkc_: :)
[00:01] <babyswizz> pls my vlc player does not produce any sound when trying to play an mp3 file on ubuntu 12.10 but when i test my speakers they bring out sound what can i do
[00:02] <vooze> thx jrib ;)
[00:02] <chris__333> I was told that if you run games like world of warcraft, Quake, Neocron or any other big fast game out there it will run faster and better on linux than windows. Is this true?
[00:03] <kosaidpo> how can i remove THE OTHER entry from my menu in lxde ?
[00:03] <chris__333> or is it better on windows?
[00:03] <babyswizz> pls my vlc player does not produce any sound when trying to play an mp3 file on ubuntu 12.10 but when i test my speakers they bring out sound what can i do
[00:03] <chris__333> can someone please answer me
[00:04] <georgeph> chris...there are  a few games for linux but i don't know if anyone wants to spend any money on linux
[00:04] <chris__333> no like windows games
[00:04] <georgeph> chris...kinda defeats the free issue
[00:04] <chris__333> like world of warcraft
[00:04] <blackshirt> chris__333, some statetement yes .. If that games run natively on linux, i think exactly yes
[00:04] <bkc_> !patience | babyswizz
[00:05] <chris__333> blackshirt: thank you. i thought so
[00:05] <georgeph> cris...you might try drascula on dosbox or scummvm for linux
[00:05] <bkc_> babyswizz: I'd start by testing something else in VLC, after that open the settings(preferences) in VLC and tried setting the audio-output to something else?
[00:05] <bkc_> :)
[00:05] <chris__333> some people play world of warcraft or black hawk down on linux even though it's meant for windows. I was told to do it under linux and it will run smoother. i didnt know if they were lying.
[00:05] <blackshirt> chris_333, i don't play a bit with that games before
[00:06] <jrib> chris__333: why don't you just try it and see if it works well enough for you?
[00:06] <chris__333> oh ok
[00:06] <bkc_> babyswizz: and try to set the audio-output to something else* (added to the beginning without changing the latter ^.^)
[00:06] <georgeph> chris...try out drascula on scummvm for linux it is free
[00:06] <chris__333> jrib: yea i'm probably going to try that. I was told to use something called "wine" to run windows games
[00:06] <jrib> !wine | chris__333
[00:06] <bkc_> chris__333: sudo apt-get install wine ; http://aps.winehq.org
[00:06] <MIH1406> I have Ubuntu 12.10 that stops on a console in **boot up** asking for a login information but it will never reach the GUI system (GNOME3 or Unity)
[00:06] <bkc_> apps.winehq.org*
[00:07] <chris__333> thank you very much for your time
[00:07] <chris__333> everyone ;)
[00:07] <bkc_> chris__333: np, that's why we are here you know ;P
[00:09] <georgeph> wow that nvidia 6200 is a joke...it is the worst driver they have ever produced and it is not  even close to recent versions of vertex and pixel shaders
[00:10] <Guest48295> exit
[00:10] <bkc_> georgeph: what? 6200 is a HW model afaik, not a driver :/
[00:11] <vooze> jrib: did not have any effect.. I tryed both pressing 1 (gnome-ubuntu-remix) and 2 (standard ubuntu) still xubuntu login and logout images
[00:11] <georgeph> bkc yeah the driver for the gpu just really sucks or maybe it is the gpu itself that is very defective.
[00:11] <bkc_> georgeph: the driver isn't bad... the GPU is...
[00:12] <jrib> vooze: you mean the images during boot up right?  not the image behind where you type your password to login?
[00:12] <georgeph> bkc plus it has way way old vertex shader 1.1 and pixel shader 1.4...way way out of date
[00:12] <bkc_> georgeph: indeed... that's the HW... not the SW...
[00:12] <vooze> jrib: yeah :) NOT the lightdm images...
[00:12] <georgeph> bkc...that is one of their worst products ever
[00:12] <jrib> vooze: and you remembered to run « sudo update-initramfs -u »?
[00:13] <georgeph> bkc...just scrounging around in junk piles it is hard to find anything useful
[00:13] <vooze> i just cant the whole command yes
[00:13] <bkc_> georgeph: it's an OLD as (censor) low-budget INTEGRATED gpu... what did you really expect? (no offence, just irritated at people who talks outside proper context)
[00:14] <georgeph> bkc_ well i was trying to get full opengl2.0 capability at a low low low price
[00:14] <vooze> I just wrote **
[00:14] <georgeph> bkc but this junk pile stuff just doesn't cut it
[00:14] <diverdude> can i use the lexmark officeedge pro5500 from my ubuntu machine?
[00:15] <bkc_> georgeph: and it's EOL so don't expect the drivers to get any better... the driver doesn't add any new magical functions that makes it up to standards with todays gfx-cards...
[00:15] <bkc_> georgeph: then you made a bad judgement-call... you're fault, not nvidias...
[00:15] <Deivid> georgeph, I just switched back to 12.04
[00:15] <Deivid> I was the guy with internet problems
[00:15] <vooze> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359255/
[00:15] <georgeph> bkc well there used to be a company called sci tech or something that could write software accelerators for older gl hardware but they disappeared
[00:16] <noiro> Anyone here know why when I remove Eclipse from the Software Center and add it again, it has old default settings?
[00:16] <jrib> vooze: don't know; that should work afaik
[00:16] <georgeph> bkc..they were trying to make the older hardware run newer gl versions
[00:16] <Deivid> noiro, u need to use purge in terminal
[00:16] <Deivid> it will remove all the settings
[00:16] <georgeph> bkc but they disappeared
[00:16] <noiro> Deivid, if I try to purge it, it only offers to purge 172kb. :P
[00:16] <bkc_> georgeph: SW-acceleration (like for instance Mesa pre-gallium3D) is slow. period. doesn't have ANYTHING on a modern card on any CPU...
[00:16] <vooze> jrib: yeah okay, thx anyway :)
[00:16] <noiro> Eclipse is at least 300mb
[00:17] <Deivid> then search for hidden dir
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: I can see why they disappered... it can't be done on todays CPUs...
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> booted live distro archbang, installed but skipped bootloader step, rebooted into buntu, mounted arch partitions, ran commands os-prober and update-grub, rebooted and no arch. what went wrong??
[00:17] <diverdude> can i use the lexmark officeedge pro5500 from my ubuntu machine?
[00:17] <georgeph> bkc_ well i am not spending any money for anything unless i find some cheap junk in the junk piles
[00:17] <noiro> Deivid.....how?
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: and quite frankly, I can't see how it can ever be done... ever...
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: then that's your problem...
[00:18] <georgeph> bkc_ yeah been a problem for many many many years but some people are still using the xt so i am not alone with junk stuff
[00:19] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:19] <georgeph> bkc plus sun was trying to keep 20 year old computers working too
[00:19] <georgeph> bkc a lot of us dont want to spend a dime unless something comes along in the junk piles for peanuts
[00:19] <bkc_> georgeph: I can relate... My current dev-machine is an old ThinkPad T43 from 2005... but your point is still WRONG
[00:20] <Radikal08> Hellom I need to format my macbook harddrive. Is there any program to do that? I have connected it to my computer using a docking station
[00:20] <bkc_> georgeph: and what did happen too Sun Enterprice exactly ;)
[00:20] <gordonjcp> bkc_: my current laptop is a Macbook 3,1 (Late 2007) that cost me £100 ;-)
[00:21] <Deivid> noiro
[00:21] <gordonjcp> bkc_: it's probably the fastest machine I own at the moment; although my P4 3GHz desktop may be clocked faster it has less memory
[00:21] <Deivid> ctrl h in home folder
[00:21] <Deivid> any eclipse folder over there?
[00:21] <bkc_> gordonjcp: Have one of those at home actually, found it in a junk pile :D just need a new flexcable between the LogicBoard and the IO-Board :)
[00:21] <Deivid> or "rm -r ~/.eclipse"
[00:21] <babyswizz> please my rhythmbox player as an import error which says that additional GStreamer plugins are required to play mp3 files. what can i do
[00:22] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:22] <bkc_> gordonjcp: awesome thing with that one is that it has a OpenGL 2.1 card with geometryshader support <3
[00:22] <bkc_> korn788: yes
[00:22] <georgeph> at least the junk pile stuff doesn't have that trusted platform drm stuff
[00:22] <gordonjcp> georgeph: this is where ARM is going to win out
[00:22] <georgeph> or that secure boot stuff
[00:22] <korn788> how would i go about doing this
[00:22] <kostkon> !restricted | babyswizz
[00:22] <bkc_> georgeph: actually TPM and SecureBoot aren't that common...
[00:23] <gordonjcp> georgeph: the Chinese MIPS-based machines are just going to get better and better, too
[00:23] <georgeph> gordon  maybe...but arms greatest advantage is to start sandboxing everything to try and cut down repair bills from viruses and malware
[00:23] <kostkon> babyswizz, just install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" in the software centre.
[00:23] <bkc_> gordonjcp: SecureBoot is basically made for ARM... so I can't see how that point is valid :)
[00:23] <kostkon> package*
[00:23] <gordonjcp> bkc_: just flash your own firmware on
[00:23] <gordonjcp> bkc_: if you don't like the hardware, get some that you *do* like built
[00:24] <babyswizz> kostkon, i have installed it
[00:24] <bkc_> gordonjcp: sure, but I'm talking about OEM here :)
[00:24] <georgeph> gordon when they phase out win32...and go to strictly winrt apps it may reduce customers repair bills
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: <shrug>
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: I'm getting a batch of 50 custom ARM devices made
[00:24] <kostkon> babyswizz, what kind of files are you trying to import
[00:24] <babyswizz> mp3
[00:24] <bkc_> georgeph: 'scuse me... are you a Troll? ^.^
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: Cortex A8, 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, SATA and HDMI
[00:24] <Rallias> Is there anything like a virtualbox dynamic container I can use for regular storage?
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: 40 quid a pop
[00:24] <babyswizz> kostkon, mp3
[00:24] <georgeph> bkc no not really just trying to get some stuff working
[00:24] <bkc_> gordonjcp: sound's like an iDevice :P
[00:25] <bkc_> nvm ^.^
[00:25] <bkc_> didn't se the SATA&HDMI-part :P
[00:25] <gordonjcp> bkc_: you ring up a Chinese fab house, point them at a datasheet, and say "build me the reference design"
[00:25] <kostkon> babyswizz, hmmm
[00:25] <gordonjcp> bkc_: boom, eight weeks later a box gets dropped off at your workshop
[00:26] <bkc_> gordonjcp: that works :)
[00:26] <korn788> im trying not to be rude but is there a link or something
[00:26] <gordonjcp> bkc_: we are entering a very exciting time, with lots of ridiculously powerful cheap devices coming out
[00:26] <gordonjcp> bkc_: Windows 8 "Secure Boot" is already dead
[00:27] <gordonjcp> bkc_: contrary to popular belief, Chinese people aren't stupid
[00:27] <kostkon> babyswizz, just to be sure, give in the terminal:  apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras  and confirm that the Installed section shows the installed version.
[00:27] <gordonjcp> bkc_: put yourself in China in a factory making ARM tablets.  Now, are you going to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 8 certification, so you can then pay money to Microsoft for an unpopular niche OS?
[00:28] <bkc_> gordonjcp: that I do know (chinese people aren't stupid part that is)
[00:28] <bkc_> indeed
[00:28] <gordonjcp> bkc_: by the way, your software guy has Android 4 running already, in the time we've been having this conversation
[00:28] <bkc_> bad marketing is bad indeed :P
[00:28] <gordonjcp> oh look, the bkc_Tablet ships with Android 4 as stock!
[00:30] <kostkon> !ot | gordonjcp
[00:31] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:31] <babyswizz> kostkon, Installed:57 Candidate57 Version table:*** 57  0 that was what came out
[00:32] <kostkon> babyswizz, could you paste the whole output on paste.ubuntu.com
[00:34] <M13> what are some desktop environments for ubuntu?
[00:35] <M13> there was like this debian one I liked a lot
[00:35] <M13> it had the debian start botton
[00:35] <M13> does anyone know how to get that desktop env.
[00:35] <M13> ?
[00:36] <babyswizz> kostkon, its at paste.ubuntu.com/1359284/
[00:36] <M13> please help
[00:36] <kostkon> babyswizz, hmm that's strange. how did you install the package? do you remember?
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> M13: If you want to use KDE, you need Kubuntu
[00:37] <M13> no
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Still supported here, it just has KDE
[00:37] <M13> its not KDE
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> LXDE?
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Xfce?
[00:37] <M13> no its like this debian env.
[00:38] <M13> the start said debian
[00:38] <babyswizz> kostkon, i downloaded the deb file and i ran sudo dpkg -i packagename in the terminal
[00:38] <M13> it was like a Debian 3 env
[00:38] <kostkon> babyswizz, what didn't you install it using the software centre?
[00:38] <Magiobiwan> I'm pretty sure Debian 3 uses KDE
[00:39] <M13> i cant get KDE???
[00:39] <M13> im running Edubuntu 12.04
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> M13: Hmm.
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> Idk if it's available in the Repos
[00:39] <babyswizz> kostkon, i was finding it difficult getting connected to the internet on ubuntu
[00:40] <Magiobiwan> Anyone have any idea?
[00:40] <kostkon> babyswizz, are you connected now?
[00:40] <babyswizz> kostkon, yes
[00:40] <kostkon> babyswizz, good, then
[00:40] <M13> is there a way I can get a task bar in openbox???
[00:41] <kostkon> babyswizz, then, my suggestion is:  remove the local version and install the one from the repos, i.e. give the following in the terminal, it's one command: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:41] <kostkon> babyswizz, actually, no, better give this:
[00:42] <kostkon> babyswizz,   sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:46] <tjeaton> Hey i've just been looking at ubuntu on android on the ubuntu website, how do I go about installing this?
[00:46] <kostkon> tjeaton, it hasn't been released yet
[00:46] <kostkon> tjeaton, I think
[00:47] <smj> do I need to add myself to a group to be able to access other home directories without sudo?
[00:47] <tjeaton> Ah okay, I've seen videos online of people installing it but i guess these are non official methods?
[00:47] <kostkon> tjeaton, haven't seen any videos except the ones from canonical
[00:48] <tjeaton> Just watching one now, it like uses vnc to connect to ubuntu on android. with ubuntu 12.04 that is
[00:49] <kostkon> tjeaton, hmm, no idea
[00:51] <smj> I remember it being possible to read other home directories without any group adding
[00:51] <smj> but I guess it's been changed
[00:52] <Bustacap> Hi, I'm having a problem starting jack. I get this error: "D-bus: jack server could not be started"
[00:53] <ar9> is there anyway to hide my ntfs parition on a livecd?
[00:53] <ar9> i want to hide my ntfs partitions from ubiquity
[00:57] <imperfect-> Anyoen know how to get XDMCP to work with light DM on 12.10
[00:57] <LifeIsGood169> Can I get some help setting up a new logical volume on a fresh install. I keep messing up.
[00:57] <imperfect-> I get black screen and disonnect
[00:57] <chris__333> I need help please. I'm right now doing an online test for school. I'm very new to linux. For some reason my left mouse button stoped working. The test is in flash. I didn't do anything but click the answer
[00:58] <CavalierPrime> chris_333 your flash player crash?  mouse button works on other things?
[00:59] <chris__333> OMG i'm going to fail this test! why did linux disable my left mouse button
[00:59] <chris__333> it works on here yes
[00:59] <chris__333> but not on this flash site
[00:59] <CavalierPrime> your flash player needs to be restarted/browser restart
[00:59] <chris__333> I did this test before on this page with no problems. It was on windows though.
[00:59] <chris__333> Linux does not work with flash that well?
[00:59] <chris__333> I mean linux is not too good with anything flash?
[01:00] <CavalierPrime> adobe doesn't debug it well or quickly, so it crashes more frequently
[01:00] <chris__333> ah, ok
[01:00] <coach17> chris_333 - its nothing to do with Linux, its your browser
[01:00] <chris__333> im using the browser that came with the new ubuntu firefox
[01:00] <chris__333> should i download Chrome to get a more stable flash handling browser?
[01:01] <CavalierPrime> you can try
[01:01] <chris__333> ok i'll try that. thank you
[01:01] <psusi> like all adobe products, flash is a terrible pile of junk... and they care about it on Linux even less than Windows
[01:02] <sheikhmak> hey guys quick question i see in my server install reiserfs, xfs, jfs, what are the main differences?
[01:02] <sheikhmak> anyone knows?
[01:02] <wantsfish> Hey guys, does chrome work for ubuntu 12.10 64bit? Cant get it to install :(
[01:02] <imperfect-> Anyone, anyone at all, zdmcp
[01:02] <CavalierPrime> last version for linux is out now, they said they won't support or develop it for linux any longer
[01:02] <imperfect-> xdmcp
[01:02] <psusi> sheikhmak, wikipedia
[01:02] <blackshirt> sheikhmak, they differences in internal
[01:03] <sheikhmak> psusi yeah i'm on some article, but looking for quick answer, that won't make me go through 4 pages of articles.
[01:03] <sheikhmak> blackshirt meaning?
[01:04] <coach17> sheikhmak - so, you want an explanation of filesystem types thats more concise than 4 pages on Wikipedia? :)
[01:05] <blackshirt> reiserfs was for reiser fs file system ... Commonly works better with small file size block in big thousand of number
[01:05] <psusi> sheikhmak, if you aren't interested in the details then don't worry about it and stick to the default ( ext4 )
[01:05] <DaemonicApathy> sheikhmak: Different filesystems require different means of recognition. That's all.
[01:05] <sheikhmak> coach17 lol i knew saying that will bite me in the butt
[01:05] <sheikhmak> lol
[01:05] <coach17> :-))
[01:05] <yeehi> Is there nice new virtualization technology being added to the new Intel Haswell CPUs to be released Q1 2013?
[01:05] <v0lksman> d
[01:06] <sheikhmak> thing is i'm installing this server and never wondered, how the different filesystems really differed.  i know about the good old ntfs, fat, and ext4
[01:06] <chaingun> ext3
[01:07] <georgeph> sheikmak...why bother with a server...you could end up being the victim of ddos attacks
[01:07] <chaingun> ext4 is new and not quite there yet
[01:07] <psusi> ext4 is not new, and has been there for several years now
[01:07] <georgeph> sheikmak...and some repair bills for ddos attacks are astronomical
[01:08] <sheikhmak> georgeph lol some of them include wiping the box. lol or having to redownload the ubuntu cd
[01:08] <georgeph> sheikmak especailly if they have distributed bot attackers
[01:08] <georgeph> sheikhmak...no...they overload your server
[01:09] <coach17> sheikhmak - ok, so if you know those FS you know the key diff is usually around extensibility...or in some cases just taste. Unless you are looking for a server install to do something like massive file management (in which case I'd suggest you probably already know about it or _should_ know about it) then I really dont think you need worry about the types ... t least, not for an explanation so quick that its faster to ab
[01:09] <coach17> sorb than 4pages ! :-)
[01:09] <georgeph> sheikmak and your site goes down and the repair bills while you are under attack are astronimical
[01:09] <psusi> a ddos attack has nothing to repair or wipe... you just wait for them to stop, or move to another isp
[01:10] <bazhang> !ot | georgeph
[01:10] <psusi> and the possibility of your server going down is not a very good reason to keep it down permanently yourself
[01:10] <coach17> oops. Forgot. Sorry  :)
[01:11] <sheikhmak> okay, i'll read up more on that. but for now, i'm behind a firewall and a router. my server will only be accessed by me.
[01:11] <wantsfish> CavalierPrime: was your answer to my question or another??
[01:11] <sheikhmak> nothing exposed to an external ip
[01:11] <CavalierPrime> wantsfish another
[01:12] <sheikhmak> but thanks coach17 . i don't intend to use it for a massive file management, but if i was to, what will you recommend, just curiosity and poking around different technologies
[01:13] <ejcweb> Can anyone suggest a command to scale up images in a directory such that they have a least one dimension matching that of a bounding size (say, 800x480px). Images larger that already have a dimension larger than that don't need to be altered.
[01:14] <georgeph> ejcweb why ...are you trying to do texture painting for realistic 3d characters
[01:14] <sheikhmak> oh and guys, I think This was a quick and better answer than wikipedia http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/
[01:14] <deadmund> ejcweb: Be aware that scaling an image up will result in pixelation
[01:14] <ejcweb> georgeph: No.
[01:15] <ejcweb> deadmund: I'm aware of that.
[01:15] <georgeph> ejcweb...why do you need to scale...are you trying to do texture painting by fitting predone images
[01:15] <iomicio> hi guys
[01:15] <XiaolinDraconis> update-grub states that it found arch, but arch is not being added to the menu
[01:15] <iomicio> I would like to install ubuntu but I am having some problems, could anyone help?
[01:16] <deadmund> iomicio: what are the problems?
[01:16] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, state your specific question
[01:16] <iomicio> I borrowed a workstation from a friend
[01:16] <DaemonicApathy> XiaolinDraconis, it sounds like you need to make a custom grub entry for Arch.
[01:16] <iomicio> it has windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 installed
[01:16] <iomicio> I am trying to install via USB but I am presented with the dual booth and not with the install prompt
[01:16] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, i was afraid of that
[01:17] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, the install is initiated from within live session
[01:17] <iomicio> and I don't have any password to access the live sessions
[01:17] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio, you should be presented with the options to install Ubuntu, create a dual boot system, or "something else" as part of the standard installation.
[01:18] <georgeph> ejc...why do you need to scale...are you trying to use predone images scaled down or up to fit your 3d characters for realistic texture painting
[01:18] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, no password is required
[01:18] <DaemonicApathy> If you want to have only Ubuntu, you will need to create a liveCD or usb drive.
[01:18] <psusi> sheikhmak, ext4 unless you are feeling adventerous, in which case you may give btrfs a try... it's got some killer features but is still experimental
[01:18] <smj> why can't I access my home directories on other partitions without root?
[01:18] <iomicio> I only see a prompt of command similar to this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28978/how-to-get-rid-of-multiple-linux-versions-in-grub-boot-menu
[01:18] <DaemonicApathy> smj: They're probably encrypted.
[01:18] <smj> they're not
[01:18] <sheikhmak> psusi from more reading i'll actually stick with ext2
[01:19] <psusi> sheikhmak, no, that would be a mistake
[01:19] <sheikhmak> psusi why would it be?
[01:19] <psusi> because ext2 is 25 years old and obsolete
[01:19] <xangua> !ot | psusi sheikhmak
[01:19] <psusi> it is not very efficient especially with large files, tends to need long fscks frequently, and is not robust in the face of crashes or power failures
[01:20] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio: That's a GRUB list - you want to boot from an Ubuntu CD/DVD/USB stick before that comes up.
[01:20] <iomicio> how can I do so (sorry I am a complete noob)
[01:20] <psusi> xangua, choice of filesystem to use with ubuntu is not ot
[01:21] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, what is your current primary OS
[01:21] <iomicio> on that work station is windows 7 but I just have a guest account
[01:21] <xangua> psusi: if it's not then just use ext4 as the installer recomends, period ;)
[01:22] <psusi> xangua, that's what I've been saying ;)
[01:22] <georgeph> what's up with blender it is completely broken on this version of ubuntu
[01:22] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, so you will want to download the ubuntu 12.04 iso, and get a program from pendrivelinux.org to install it to usb
[01:22] <sheikhmak> xangua sjeejs lol. its for an ubuntu install
[01:22] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: I did that
[01:22] <georgeph> does anybody else have problems with blender on ubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <args[0]> anybody knows if there's a room on IRC for Raspberry Pi?
[01:22] <xangua> !alis | args[0]
[01:22] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: how can I avoid getting into GRUB
[01:22] <iomicio> what should I do before that?
[01:23] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio: download the Ubuntu version you want from http://www.ubuntu.com , burn it to a disc, and boot the machine from that. The BIOS of the machine may have to be tweaked (the first screen might say something like "F2 for system settings")
[01:23] <sheikhmak> psusi thanks for the pointers, i'll look into it later, lol. i really need to proceed with server install
[01:23] <sheikhmak> ahahah
[01:23] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, which prgram did you use to install to usb?
[01:23] <georgeph> how can ubuntu afford not to support blender...especially when tears of steel shows some solid graphics capabilities
[01:23] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: PendriveLinux
[01:23] <args[0]> xangua: I'm asking if anyone knows, not how do I know..
[01:24] <georgeph> does anybody know of a fix for blender
[01:24] <iomicio> DaemonicApathy: I have dowloaded a zip file
[01:24] <iomicio> DaemonicApathy: is the iso inside or should I burn the zip
[01:24] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, u should not have gotten a zip
[01:25] <sheikhmak> which brings me to another question. while i'm at it. my laptop has somewhat a weird behavior since i tried gnome-desktop on it, grub color has changed to blue, and on boot, i get the some blue wallpaper for a hot second before my wallpaper kicks in. its actually sort of annoying at this point. lol. anyone knows what to do with that?
[01:25] <jrib> georgeph: you should describe how it is broken
[01:25] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and download the second choice
[01:25] <iomicio> before it goes to boot I have two options: F2 and F12
[01:25] <iomicio> should I click any of those?
[01:25] <theborger> questions. if i am running 10.04 32 bit. and upgrade to 12 will that update to 64bit os?
[01:25] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, titled ubuntu 12.04 lts
[01:25] <jrib> theborger: no
[01:25] <georgeph> jrib..well let me try to run it in a shell and i will see if there are any error messages
[01:26] <theborger> jrib, so i need to do a fresh install
[01:26] <theborger> jrib: anyway to upgrade to 64bit?
[01:26] <jrib> theborger: reinstall
[01:26] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: I have already dowloaded that file. It is a zip file to me!
[01:26] <psusi> iomicio, you probably have installed one of the silly programs that can also treat iso files as an archive... it is not
[01:27] <georgeph> some people scale predone images with gimp and fit them to 3d characters in blender for realistic 3d characters without spending a dime
[01:27] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you should have gotten this, ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[01:27] <iomicio> psusi: that could be, how do I treat it as an iso instead?
[01:27] <psusi> iomicio, ignore the fact that it looks like a zip?
[01:28] <georgeph> well it says swrast/s_span.c 1327 assertion color type failed
[01:28] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, correct ignore that fact
[01:28] <psusi> follow instructions
[01:28] <georgeph> jrib is that any kind of a useful clue to try to get blender working on ubuntu
[01:28] <psusi> iomicio, are you putting it on a flash drive or a dvd?
[01:28] <jrib> georgeph: I still don't know how it is not working
[01:29] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, use the program from pendrivelinux, i personally prefer YUMI
[01:29] <iomicio> I have actually downloaded "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64" but I think I need an intel version. does it make any difference?
[01:29] <georgeph> well apparently  color_type 0x1401 or 0x1406 failed
[01:29] <psusi> iomicio, no, intel uses amd's 64bit instruction set
[01:29] <jrib> iomicio: you've downloaded the 64-bit version, you can use it on intel processors
[01:29] <georgeph> in the swrast/s_span.c code
[01:29] <iomicio> ok
[01:30] <iomicio> so I will burn that file on a dvd right?
[01:30] <georgeph> this is a major problem for ubuntu
[01:30] <psusi> iomicio, yes, if you have a dvd and a program that knows how to burn image files
[01:30] <jrib> georgeph: why don't you say what exactly happens... What did you type?  What was the full output?  What happened on the screen?  Does blender still start?  Does it start and quit?  If it starts, does it behave normally?  If not, how so?
[01:30] <iomicio> can you suggest a program to do that?
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, thats one of 2 options, also the YUMI program can install to usb
[01:30] <psusi> iomicio, you do not just drag and drop the file to the disc
[01:30] <georgeph> jrib...i typed the output already do you want me to type it again
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[01:30] <jrib> georgeph: good luck with your issue.
[01:31] <iomicio> I have actually installed the iso with PendriveLinux on a USB stick already
[01:31] <psusi> iomicio, then you should be set
[01:31] <Tsubaki> hey can I find a developer? I think I found a bug/exploit thats a major security issue
[01:31] <iomicio> the usb is in and I am presented with GRUB without any reference to a new installation
[01:31] <jrib> !bugs | Tsubaki
[01:31] <georgeph> jrib...man that is a real loss especially when some people are becoming able to achieve some modest level of computer graphics with blender
[01:31] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, as i told you, the installer is in a live session
[01:31] <jrib> georgeph: please stick to support
[01:31] <Tsubaki> k thanks but its not with a package
[01:31] <psusi> iomicio, so proceed with booting it up
[01:32] <jrib> Tsubaki: you can label a bug as a security issue.  #ubuntu-bugs can help you more
[01:32] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, choose the top choice when the system boots to usb
[01:32] <georgeph> jrib...well i don't know how to support it unless i try to recompile it...but it may be an x problem
[01:32] <Tsubaki> ty jrib
[01:32] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: the top choice leads to my friend's account and I have no password
[01:32] <jrib> georgeph: I'm just asking that you keep the discussion related to support in this channel.  There's no need for the "it's a real loss ..."
[01:33] <iomicio> psusi I am booting up
[01:33] <georgeph> jrib..ok
[01:33] <boxbeatsy> hi, i have a notebook with a AMD Radeon HD 6520G.  my 30" dell maxes out at 1200x800 resolution.  i'm currently runnign with the latest amd proprietary driver.  upon installing the open source fxlgr driver, my system crashed.  does anyone have ideas on how i can increase my resolution?
[01:33] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, the top choice from the usb would not lead to an already installed system
[01:33] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: ok let me try again
[01:34] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...how did you change the driver for x...i also would like to try another driver
[01:35] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i followed a guide on the ubuntuforums.  added the ppa and then used apt-get install fglrx i believe
[01:35] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: it prompts my friend account
[01:35] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, try this tutorial, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_02Ca5LJpg&feature=related
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> boxbeatsy: but after i tried fglrx, it just straight up failed to boot.  to get it back to a normal state, i had to purge fglrx, and reset xorg.conf
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> ^geor
[01:36] <georgeph> boxbeatly oh well i got a deb package and used dpkg -i...but it did not change anything in x
[01:36] <georgeph> boxbeatly how did you reconfigure x
[01:36] <georgeph> for a rolled back driver
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i know for a fact that the graphics card (amd radeon hd 6520g) can support more than 1200x800 because my other monitor, can max out at 1920x1680
[01:37] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...well i don't know anything about that hires stuff...my cheap junk barely gets 640 by 480 with 256 colors
[01:38] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...but i would like to goof around with some drivers too..but i don't see anyway of reconfigure x for different drivers since the conf file is missing and the configure apps seem to be missing too
[01:39] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: so, first a disclaimer: i know nothing about hardware configs.  once the computer crashed, the steps i took were 1)purging fglrx via apt-get 2)blacklisting fglrx_ipa so it didnt get recognized by the lsphw command under configuration 3)downloaded proprietary amd driver and installed it
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, rather than entering a bios and changing settings, some systems allow you to go to boot options, for me i press F11 at boot and i get a list to choose what device to boot, i select usb and thats it
[01:40] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: 4)run sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:40] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis:it worked!
[01:40] <georgeph> well i can try that but that doesn't seem like the right deb driver for my older hardware
[01:40] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i see
[01:40] <blackness> anyone here familiar with plymouth and the boot splashes? i cant get it to switch from the plain purple "ubuntu 12.10" boot screen
[01:41] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am more interested in playing around with particular not generic drivers
[01:41] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, brilliant, did you learn where the error was? which step was missing?
[01:41] <georgeph> boxbeatsy..but something happened to all the x configuration programs
[01:41] <iomicio> let me finish the installation and I will tell you ;)
[01:41] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i see....sorry, i'm new to linux so i'm afraid i'm not of much help :\...do you by any chance know why i woudlnt be able to incrase my resolution past 1200x800 on a 30" monitor?
[01:42] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, i use a program called plymouth-manager
[01:42] <blackness> from what repo?
[01:42] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i feel like it's definitely a driver issue, but i can't find instructions anywhere on installin ga new driver
[01:42] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...well i don't know anything about that hires stuff..it is too expensive for me
[01:42] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am just trying to get to a useful level of 3d stuff for emulation purposes
[01:43] <iomicio> btw I have to press F12
[01:43] <georgeph> boxbeatsy i don't know anything about that hi  res stuff
[01:43] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, http://sourceforge.net/projects/plymouthmanager/
[01:43] <blackness> i found a repo for it
[01:43] <blackness> that doesnt seem to work lol
[01:44] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, so that was it then, just needed to select usb during post
[01:44] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am just trying to get some lo res cheap 3d stuff workin
[01:44] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: apparently yes
[01:45] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: you guys rock!, I am so happy I can finally start
[01:45] <iomicio> this is my firt Linux installation ever ;)
[01:45] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you may want to see that video i posted, it really helps to have a proper boot order, in my opinion cd drives come first then usb then hard drives
[01:46] <blackness> XiaolinDraconis, do i need to delete text.plymouth?
[01:46] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you will not be disappointed, i just hope you got the 12.04 and not 12.10
[01:47] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, i never deleted any file, installed the program downloaded a theme, and selected it via the program
[01:47] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: yes, I got the 04
[01:48] <blackness> i did that too..but its using /etc/alternative/text.plymouth for the theme..i can edit "Ubuntu 12.10" to whatever and it shows my changes.
[01:48] <dsnyders> !nvidia
[01:48] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, good, 12.10 is for advanced users, its cutting edge and often gets broken by updates
[01:49] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, ive never went beyond changing to a new theme from gnome-look
[01:49] <blackness> i think im going to remove every theme, and see what happens..
[01:50] <h4ckdev> !help
[01:51] <georgeph> boxbeatsy well that apt-get install fglrx stuff failed completely here
[01:51] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...anyway i doubt if a generic driver would work for a specific old board...i need to have more flexibility with x
[01:52] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i don't know why they took out all the x config programs
[01:52] <lco124> please can somebody help me with compiling the Intel Graphics Driver
[01:53] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i'm afraid i don't know enough to provide any valuable insights :X
[01:53] <georgeph> ico24...good luck...after you get it compiled..how do you plan on installing it into x
[01:53] <lco124> please, do you know how to compile Intel Graphics Linux Driver
[01:54] <RNK6> could someone help me get to foonetic?
[01:54] <RNK6> i kinda new to irc stuff
[01:54] <georgeph> ico124...well first i would look for a make file and also it will probably use some kernel headers so you might need to have that available too
[01:55] <georgeph> ico124..i don't really know ...i can't afford intel stuff
[01:55] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to render with luxblend and i keep getting this error. "Command line argument parsing failed with error 'locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid', please use the --help option to view the allowed syntax."
[01:55] <lco124> the problem are the makefiles
[01:56] <iomicio> Thank you all guys!
[01:56] <georgeph> ico124...well they probably need to have kernel headers around anyway
[01:56] <georgeph> ico124..but i can't say for sure...i can't afford any of that intel stuff....it still commands a high premium in the market
[01:57] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, i think i found the source of the problem
[01:57] <bazhang> georgeph, enough with the extra commentary
[01:57] <georgeph> bazhang...ok..just trying to see if he had any ideas about reconfiguring x
[01:57] <lco124> geogerph, thanks i will search in another channel
[01:58] <bazhang> georgeph, stick to support ONLY. not what you can and cannot afford, etc
[01:58] <DaemonicApathy> xiaolindraconis: Oh?
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, when installing arch it told me something about error ill need to manually run mkcpio or something, i never did and while adding a custom grub entry i noticed i could not find initram or vmlinuz
[01:58] <almoxarife> bazhang: you have such a cheery way of getting a point across
[01:58] <georgeph> bazhang...ok..well i can't support very much...i don't have the experience on lots of different hardware
[01:58] <bazhang> almoxarife, I try
[01:58] <DaemonicApathy> Makes sense.
[01:58] <bazhang> georgeph, then simply do not answer
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah, it helps when u remember what errors you had
[01:59] <Biomechd> did anyone see the error i posted?
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> Thanks for the info, xiaolindraconis. I actually intend to dual-boot Arch soon. </ot>
[01:59] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a keystroke combo for cycling through screen resolutions?
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: Not by default, but you could always script one.
[02:00] <georgeph> snyders...well it used to be ctrl-alt plus/minus...but that seems to be broken too and also ctrl-alt-bkspc doesn't kill x either anymor
[02:00] <boxbeatsy> does anyone know if there's a way to force display resolution other than xrandr (that failed)
[02:00] <lco124> somebody knows hoe to compile the linux intel graphics driver
[02:00] <lco124> how
[02:00] <dsnyders> DaemonicApathy, You vastly overestimate my capabilites :-)
[02:01] <georgeph> snyders...they really butchered x
[02:01] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: My estimate of your abilities is "the ability to use Google" until proven otherwise. ;-)
[02:01] <georgeph> snyders...all the flexibility seems to be gone
[02:02] <almoxarife> Biomechd: thats such a specific error that you may not see a response, tried the fall back ? google?
[02:02] <RNK6> im using 12.04, and i really miss the ability to open a file type with a command
[02:02] <RNK6> is there still a way to do that?
[02:02] <dsnyders> georgeph, ctrl-alt plus/minus worked (number pad + and -)
[02:02] <DaemonicApathy> Oh, nice. I thught that functionality was removed.
[02:02] <georgeph> snyders..i wonder if it is possible to uninstall x and try installing an earlier version of xfree
[02:03] <georgeph> snyders with maybe more flexibility
[02:03] <DaemonicApathy> RNK6: can you elaborate on what you mean?
[02:03] <georgeph> snyders ...does ctrl--alt-plus /minus work for you...it no longer works here
[02:04] <Biomechd> almoxarife, i'm confused. what do you mean, exactly?
[02:04] <dsnyders> georgeph, It would help if you put dsnyders instead of just snyders.  My chat program would then highlight your conversation
[02:04] <georgeph> dsnyders...oh sorry about the misspelling
[02:04] <georgeph> dsnyders...but ctrl-alt plus/minus no longer works here
[02:05] <RNK6> i remember in my old ubuntu version (8 - 10, im not really sure) i could select "open with command" and enter a command to open a file with
[02:05] <RNK6> under "open with"
[02:05] <georgeph> dsnyders and ctrl-alt-backspace no longer kills x
[02:05] <georgeph> dsnyders....they really butchered it for some reason
[02:06] <dsnyders> georgeph, np.  Yes, the ctrl-alt numberpad +/- seemed to cycle through the resolutions.  However, it doesn't fix my main problem: all I have is the desktop background.  No icons, no menu, nothing.
[02:06] <SierraAR> Where would I go to find out what version of ubuntu I currently have installed?
[02:06] <georgeph> dsnyders...at least ctrl-alt f7 from ctrl-alt f1 still works
[02:06] <georgeph> dsnyders..but that won't solve your question...x is just really butchered
[02:07] <thanigaivel> how do i know which graphics card using my ubunut
[02:07] <almoxarife> Biomechd: well, that error you got, i could copy paste it to google and see what comes up and then offer you a link i 'guess' would be the most helpful, but you being a user of the app might see something more useful from the results if you did the same, still confused?
[02:07] <dsnyders> georgeph, ctrl-alt-backspace was changed a few years back because it interfered with handicap usability settings.
[02:08] <L3top> thanigaivel: do you have an optimus or similar?
[02:08] <georgeph> dsnyders..oh well i was wondering why so much flexibilty has been lost
[02:08] <Biomechd> almoxarife, i kinda understand now
[02:08] <L3top> thanigaivel: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: it says v00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0102] (rev 09)
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: whats that mean
[02:10] <L3top> thanigaivel: is that the only thing it produces?
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: yes .
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> RNK6: Perhaps this is what you're looking for: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145243/where-did-open-with-user-defined-command-go
[02:11] <kostkon> SierraAR, open your system monitor, click on the 1st tab. Or, in a terminal, give:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:11] <L3top> You have only one GPU so I do not understand your question...
[02:11] <L3top> thanigaivel: ^
[02:12] <aah> I hear Ubuntu 12.10 has fde in the installer.  Any way to get this in the 12.04 installer? (I don't want to use the alternate cd)
[02:12] <SierraAR> kostkon, thanks. Another question - Is it better to stick with the 32bit version of 12.10, even though my hardware supports 64 bit (I originally had windows 7 64 bit on this laptop), or should I switch to 64 bit? I've gotten mixxed signals from google searches
[02:12] <linuxy> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <RNK6> DaemonApathy: thanks, that seems to be what i was looking for
[02:12] <munderwo-work> Hi all. Not sure if this is the right place, but im trying to build a .deb package from a source tarball, using dh_make and then dpkg-buildpackge. Its erroring saying dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read ../libffi_3.0.11-1.dsc: No such file or directory , anybody got any tips? I understand that the .dsc file is a debian source file?
[02:13] <kostkon> SierraAR, my recommendation would be, if you can, switch to 64.
[02:14] <kostkon> SierraAR, is there anything specific that concerns you, are you worrying about something that might not work on 64bit?
[02:15] <SierraAR> kostkon, mainly I've read that programs designed to work in 32bit won't run in ubuntu 64bit due to missing 32bit libraries
[02:16] <kostkon> SierraAR, actually, ubuntu has had multiatch support since 12.04. It measn that you can run 32bit programs in your 64bit OS.
[02:17] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: How much memory does the system have?
[02:17] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, 4 GB
[02:17] <kostkon> SierraAR, or maybe since 11.10.
[02:18] <SierraAR> kostkon, ah cool, thanks. Is there a way to install the 64bit version without losing everything thats already setup?
[02:18] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: I have to agree with kostkon - there's no apparent reason not to go with 64-bit.
[02:18] <kostkon> SierraAR, do you have a separate partition for you home?
[02:19] <kostkon> SierraAR, if not, then I think you'll have to do a clean install.
[02:20] <SierraAR> kostkon, I don't think so. I didnt set any partitions up when installing.
[02:20] <georgeph> man that apt-get stuff is really broken here with fglrx
[02:20] <kostkon> SierraAR, then, just backup and reinstall :/
[02:20] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... how can I tell if i'm running in 2d or 3d graphics mode ?
[02:21] <georgeph> stuff like no apport written because maxreports is already reached
[02:21] <georgeph> apt-get seems very broken here
[02:22] <RNK6> DaemonApathy: thanks, it worked
[02:22] <RNK6> i have been struggling to get a hard drive to work
[02:23] <georgeph> RNK6 what is wrong with it
[02:23] <RNK6> i wiped it with gpart, but now it wont mount
[02:23] <georgeph> RNK6 ..a moving parts problem...have you tried a solid state approach
[02:23] <RNK6> hmm?
[02:24] <RNK6> im a noob when it comes to low level stuff
[02:24] <SierraAR> kostkon, alright, thanks.
[02:24] <kostkon> SierraAR, np
[02:25] <georgeph> RNK6 but not sure if solid state really solves the moving parts problem...because it has limited write times
[02:25] <georgeph> RNK6 ...storage is just an unresolved issue
[02:26] <georgeph> RNK6...scratched CDs...blurays...don't solve anything either
[02:26] <Hamachi> i am trying to install 12.10 server with software raid but i'm confused about how to set up the partitions
[02:26] <RNK6> all i know is that i stuck the pin thingy into "slave" and then started messing around with gpart because it apparently had wiping capabilities
[02:26] <bazhang> !ot > georgeph
[02:27] <georgeph> ubottu...how do i find the private message
[02:27] <L3top> !ot | georgeph
[02:27] <georgeph> ubottu..ok..but that still doesn't answer my question...how do i find a private message
[02:28] <chaingun> georgeph: what irc client are you using?
[02:28] <L3top> georgeph: it would depend on how you are connecting to IRC
[02:28] <georgeph> ubottu..i see a 3 in the left side scroller...did you send me 3 messages...but how do i access them
[02:28] <L3top> georgeph: stop talking to the bot.
[02:29] <chaingun> hahahahahaha
[02:29] <georgeph> L3top..ok..but do you know how to access the 3 whatever they are
[02:29] <L3top> georgeph: you would have to answer my question for me to answer yours.
[02:29] <bazhang> georgeph, stop being offtopic. its that simple.
[02:29] <chaingun> can someone do a CTCP and see what irc client this guy is running?
[02:30] <dsnyders> georgeph, they should be in another tab on your chat client somewhere
[02:30] <georgeph> bazhang...well i am trying to understand this ubuntu software
[02:30] <bazhang> georgeph, and this is the Wrong place to chat about it.
[02:31] <georgeph> bazhang...ok i just won't ask about it
[02:31] <bazhang> !manual > georgeph
[02:32] <bazhang> !rute > georgeph
[02:33] <dsnyders> bazhang, sending georgeph private messages won't help because he can't find the private messages.
[02:33] <Hamachi> is there a guide that could help me set up software raid during the 12.10 server installation?
[02:33] <Hamachi> i found one for 9.04 but when i set both partitions to / it won't let me write the changes
[02:35] <chaingun>  georgeph is using Telepathy for IRC. Anyone have any idea how to access private messages in that?
[02:36] <georgeph> chaingun...no the default program ubuntu recommends is empathy...but i don't have a clue how to use it
[02:39] <dsnyders> chaingun, georgeph, it looks like Telepathy puts each chat into a tab across the top.  georgeph, do you see a tab called ubottu?
[02:39] <kostkon> dsnyders, it's empathy, using the telepathy lib
[02:40] <blackshirt> !info apache2-mpm-prefork
[02:40] <georgeph> chaingun...no i don't see any table across the top..just a label for the channel
[02:40] <blackshirt> !info apache2-mpm-worker
[02:41] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntu 12.10 ... I installed the CompizConfig Settings Manager, the Cube & A lot of other features are not on the menu ( I know, Compiz is Lame, but I like the Cube )... I've asked in the #compiz channel several times a day for the past week ... that channel seems to be all lurkers ( no disrespect intended ) ... can someone point me in the right direction ?
[02:42] <georgeph> bazhang..ok i found 3 messages by you..in an envelope next to the speaker
[02:43] <georgeph> bazhang..ok i found 2 more messages by that ubottu
[02:44] <georgeph> bazhang and i found the third messenger to be some kind of channel report
[02:44] <CrazyZurfer> Hello, I'm creating a bash that needs the usage of "sudo" but it asks for the password, is there any way to put the password on the source code?
[02:44] <georgeph> bazhang ...now the weird 3 is gone on the left hand scroller
[02:45] <somsip> CrazyZurfer: run the bash script with sudo
[02:45] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: No, and it would be incredibly insecure to do so.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: What is your end goal?
[02:47] <CrazyZurfer> My idea is to execute the bash by double clicking it in the desktop
[02:47] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: What is your end goal?
[02:47] <CrazyZurfer> I need that to use that code everyday
[02:48] <CrazyZurfer> and it's very boring puting the password aaalll the time
[02:48] <CrazyZurfer> lol
[02:48] <georgeph> bazhang...so it does appear to be able to receive private messages
[02:48] <L3top> CrazyZurfer: What does the script do?
[02:48] <georgeph> bazhang..but x itself is just in such bad shape
[02:48] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: I will ask one more time for your end goal, and if you don't give an end goal I'll simply stop trying to help you as I don't have the time. If you're not sure what an end goal is, see http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal
[02:49] <L3top> georgeph: could you state a problem that we might help you with?
[02:50] <L3top> !details | georgeph
[02:50] <dsnyders> georgeph, this is not a place to complain.  This is a place to ask questions and provide answers.
[02:50] <georgeph> L3top...well it is still to early to find many problems...but right now..blender doesn't install...fglrx doesn't work with apt-get and x is really in bad shape
[02:50] <bazhang> !work | georgeph
[02:50] <SierraAR> Gonna be doing that reinstall tonight. Anyway, had another question
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> ok, I want to start Lampp (Xampp for linux) every time I Turn on the computer. Actually the only way I know to execute Lampp is by executing a bash file. The bash file has to be executed with Sudo.
[02:51] <kevin_> I need some help trying to mount a network share from my NAS.  I had it working once but now I can't get it to work.
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: is that a smart question? :)
[02:51] <L3top> georgeph: your system does not see an ATI card... only an Intel... why are you trying to install fglrx?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Yes.
[02:51] <SierraAR> The 'Main Menu' program that says it modifies main menus. Where's the menu that it changes?
[02:51] <bazhang> CrazyZurfer, it's LAMP not LAMPP
[02:51] <bazhang> !lamp > CrazyZurfer
[02:52] <georgeph> L3top...i'm not sure what non-propietary driver is loaded...i can't see how to dpkg -i a specific driver for x
[02:52] <kostkon> SierraAR, the new menu in ubuntu is the dash ;)  so it modifies the entries in dash and the launcher
[02:52] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: And now that I know that your end goal is to have a LAMP server, I highly recommend that you stop trying to use Xamp and simply install LAMP normally via the repositories (which will automatically configured it to start at boot).
[02:52] <L3top> georgeph: you aren't understanding me. fglrx is the proprietary driver for an ATI card... your lspci does not show an ATI card.
[02:52] <SierraAR> kostkon, weird, because the files and stuff listed in the main menu program arent anywhere in the dash that I can find, they dont show up when searching either
[02:53] <Jordan_U> !lamp | CrazyZurfer
[02:53] <CrazyZurfer> bazhang: actually it's lampp with 2 p's : http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[02:53] <blackness> ok, i got the boot splash to work, but it doesn't show up till after its loaded the system, and displays for just a second before loading GDM, any ideas why?
[02:53] <georgeph> L3top..nope lspci doesn't show anything but the kernel reports frame buffer allocation for the radeon
[02:53] <kostkon> SierraAR, yeah, there are some new generation gtk menu utilities in the software centre that are written specifically for unity. Just do a search in USC.
[02:54] <georgeph> L3top..i don't know what x is doing...and the configure programs all seem to have disappeared along with sample config files
[02:54] <kostkon> SierraAR, 2-3 of them
[02:55] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: But, is there a way to do what I want?, because I've used xampp for a long time and now I'll have to move all databases, all the code and setup the whole thing again :S
[02:55] <georgeph> L3top...but the kernel recognizes the card...but that is not a driver for x
[02:55] <L3top> georgeph: Lets start over. What physical cards do you have installed in your system? There is an onboard intel... what else...
[02:55] <kostkon> SierraAR, and i meant gnome menu, not gtk menu :/
[02:55] <georgeph> L3top ...it is an old 9200 crippled model called the se for cheap junk
[02:56] <SierraAR> kostkon, explains why I only got one search result, that being 'terminal' xD
[02:56] <SierraAR> Though that's probably not showing anything I'm looking for anyway
[02:56] <georgeph> L3top...amd...assigns letters for defective gpus and shuts down some feature to make a little of it usable
[02:56] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Yes, there are ways to do what you want (none of which involve storing passwords in scripts, or use of sudo at all). But Xampp is not supported here, and I don't personally have the time to walk you through configuring it to run at boot properly either.
[02:56] <L3top> georgeph: I would need more information than that... but the long and short of it is that if it cannot be seen by lspci, you cannot use it.
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top...that is not true.
[02:57] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks for your help ;)!
[02:57] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: You're welcome.
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top...it is just that there should be some way to apt-get some configure programs for x
[02:57] <SierraAR> Ah well, not too important. I can just create desktop shortcuts
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top..because it is really butchered
[02:58] <kostkon> SierraAR, just search for "menu". Check this for example, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/menulibre/
[02:58] <L3top> georgeph: Yes, it is, and it is why you are here. This is most of what I have done for the last 2 years, is automate driver installs for various hardware, especially GPUs.
[02:58] <th3pun15h3r> anyone interested in a openbox of ubuntu?
[02:58] <georgeph> L3top...well experimenters don't want anything automated...they need flexibility
[02:58] <kostkon> SierraAR, but, it's only for 12.04 ok :/
[02:58] <blackshirt> !openbox
[02:59] <georgeph> L3top..and they have severely crippled the x platform
[02:59] <bazhang> georgeph, thats not true. just stop it.
[02:59] <L3top> georgeph: I can give you every possible driver a card can use, but if the system cannot even see the device, it cannot and will not be used.
[02:59] <bazhang> georgeph, this is NOT The complaints/rants channel. so just stop.
[03:00] <kevin_> I need some help trying to mount a network share from my NAS.  I had it working once but now I can't get it to work.
[03:00] <georgeph> bazhang...he is trying to help resolve an issue...but i don't see the flexibility needed to work on it
[03:00] <bazhang> georgeph, who is he
[03:01] <georgeph> bazhang...he is L3top
[03:01] <bazhang> georgeph, stop saying x is crippled and other nonsense
[03:01] <L3top> georgeph: your system has to see hardware to use it. This is not a limitation of flexibility... something is wrong with the card or its seating/power needs
[03:02] <georgeph> bazhang...it is not nonsense ...i remember when x was very flexible and very accomodating
[03:02] <SierraAR> Is there a way to install the drivers for a Epson workforce 465 all in one?
[03:02] <SierraAR> Sorry to be bashing you guys with so many questions - I just got ubuntu installed last night and still trying to figure it all out.
[03:02] <kostkon> georgeph, just stop stating (false) facts and start asking questions. Otherwise, I think you should move your discusion to the offtopic channel.
[03:02] <SierraAR> The disk wants to run in wine, and I'm not sure I want to be installing printer drivers on wine
[03:02] <bazhang> SierraAR, linuxprinting.org database is where I would check first
[03:03] <L3top> georgeph: the biggest problem with X is its archaic nature. What you are saying is nonsense. It has not devolved.
[03:03] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR, network or USB?
[03:03] <georgeph> L3top...it has lost many many adjustable features
[03:03] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, wireless network
[03:04] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: Do you know any repo that has lamp with phpmyadmin? :)!
[03:04] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR, last time I went to System Settings > Printing > Add > Find Network Printer with a similar model, all I had to do was enter the local IP, and it downloaded drivers automatically.
[03:04] <L3top> no it hasn't, and your inability to install your card is not representative of such... at no time in history would your current situation work. Something else is wrong.
[03:05] <L3top> georgeph: please power down the system, and check that the card is properly installed.
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top...it is installed fine...but i will power it down anyway to satisfy that request
[03:06] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, I'll give that a try then check the site bazhang gave me. Thanks
[03:06] <DaemonicApathy> Any time.
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top..the kernel recognizes it fine
[03:06] <gkatsev> last week I updated to ubuntu 12.10, and now whenever I boot, it fails to do so manually and says "failed to mount drive, hit S to skip..." Any ideas how to fix that?
[03:06] <kostkon> georgeph, do you know the term PEBKAC?
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top...let me power down now
[03:07] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: phpmyadmin is in the default repositories, no need for a ppa. Though I am not advocating the use of phpmyadmin.
[03:07] <bazhang> kostkon, lets not go there please
[03:07] <kostkon> bazhang, yeah, ok :P  just saying
[03:07] <CrazyZurfer> !apt
[03:09] <krababbel> gkatsev: So you can't boot anymore?
[03:09] <gkatsev> krababbel: it boots once I hit `S', but it waits for user-input on that screen.
[03:09] <gkatsev> it used to work just fine in 12.04 and 11.10 and 11.04
[03:11] <krababbel> gkatsev: You'd have to show us the contents of the file /etc/fstab, and the output of 'df -h' maybe first. Probably something changed?
[03:11] <gkatsev> I dont think anything changed. Let me paste those someplace.
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get install lamp returns: not found
[03:12] <DaemonicApathy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <georgeph> L3top..ok im back...how do you recommend i access a driver i tried to install with dpkg -i...i don't know where it put it
[03:12] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Did you read the link from ubottu?
[03:13] <OldOneEye> is 130gig too much swap space?
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> yup
[03:13] <kostkon> OldOneEye, oh yeah
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> well... not complete xD
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> CrazyZurfer: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[03:14] <gkatsev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359485/ /etc/fstab  and `df -h' http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359490/
[03:14] <SierraAR> Out of curiousity, why does 12.04 have 5 years of support and 12.10 only has 10?
[03:14] <gkatsev> krababbel: ↑
[03:14] <L3top>  georgeph dpkg -i means I have this .deb located here, and I want to install it... again, until your system SEES the ati card, it WILL NOT work. If you are looking for something specific that the package installed, you can try dpkg -L or -S or locate.
[03:14] <SierraAR> Err s/10/2
[03:14] <CrazyZurfer> thanks DaemonicApathy
[03:14] <kostkon> !lts | SierraAR
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: 12.04 is specifically LTS - Long Term Support
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> You win this round, kostkon...
[03:14] <kostkon> DaemonicApathy, :P
[03:15] <SierraAR> Ah, just a bit curious if that means .04 might be a better option than .10. What made them choose to make .04 LTS?
[03:15] <DaemonicApathy> Iirc, every 4 versions are LTS.
[03:16] <DaemonicApathy> 10.04, 12.04, 14.04, etc...
[03:16] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: If you had read even to the first section, titled "To install the default LAMP stack in Ubuntu 10.04 and above" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP you would have found the two commands required to intall a complete lamp stack.
[03:16] <joehe> hello all,
[03:17] <joehe> sorry for disturb
[03:17] <joehe> i want to install gcc 4.6
[03:17] <L3top> why?
[03:17] <joehe> but when i download the gcc debian package from web,
[03:17] <joehe> it can not installed
[03:17] <bazhang> joehe, why do you need that
[03:18] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, makes sense I think xD. Does this mean .04 would be a better option or should I stick with .10 when grabbing the 64-bit version?
[03:18] <krababbel> gkatsev: You can check if the UUID's are correct, output them with 'sudo blkid'
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: given the length of support, and the number of apparent issues, I chose to stick with 12.04.1 - your choice is your own, though. :-)
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> *issues with 12.10
[03:19] <joehe> because when i run a command
[03:19] <gkatsev> krababbel: I changed them in the paste, but when I hit `s' in the boot, they get mounted just fine on after boot/login.
[03:19] <gkatsev> krababbel: let me check blkid.
[03:19] <SierraAR> .04 it is. Probably better for a linux/ubuntu noob anyway xD
[03:19] <joehe> it said
[03:20] <joehe> `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /opt/semc-apt0.8-lib/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.11)
[03:20] <bazhang> joehe, what version of ubuntu are you on now
[03:20] <SierraAR> Thanks again, DaemonicApathy
[03:20] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: Any time.
[03:20] <joehe> GLIBCXX_3.4.15 is in libstdc++.so.6
[03:20] <joehe> i search on the web , someone said GCC4.6.0 could solve the problem.
[03:21] <joehe> my OS is Ubuntu 10.04LTS
[03:21] <joehe> i am not sure how to install GCC 4.6.0
[03:21] <bazhang> joehe, what version of ubuntu are you on, and why do you have something in /opt
[03:21] <gkatsev> krababbel: yes, UUIDs are correct.
[03:21] <joehe> that /opt is a third party SW
[03:22] <kostkon> !build-essential | joehe
[03:22] <bazhang> joehe, what software
[03:22] <kostkon> joehe, try installing the "build-essential" package.
[03:23] <krababbel> gkatsev: I don't know, check /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages ?
[03:23] <joehe> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[03:24] <kostkon> joehe, yes
[03:24] <joehe> it is a SW which we developed
[03:24] <georgeph> L3top...the driver created some old directories that used to be used...like /usr/X11R6/bin...and there is an aticonfig program...but it wants to modify a section of the old config file which is completely missing...and may not even be recognized if created
[03:24] <bazhang> joehe, whats the name, what does it do
[03:25] <georgeph> L3top...so that is where i could use some specific pointers
[03:25] <joehe> it said
[03:25] <joehe> build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:25] <joehe> 11.4build1
[03:25] <georgeph> L3top...is it possible to just uninstall this x crap and try to install an older version of xfree
[03:25] <kostkon> joehe, ok, now i get it. 10.04 has 4.3 but you need 4.6
[03:26] <almoxarife> joehe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 <-- if not yet installed try this, see if you get past your error
[03:26] <joehe> yes.
[03:26] <joehe> my current gcc is 4.3
[03:26] <gkatsev> krababbel: I think I found something at /var/log/boot.log let me paste that.
[03:27] <joehe> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[03:27] <joehe> 4.4.5-8
[03:27] <almoxarife> joehe: are you compiling?
[03:28] <georgeph> L3top...nobody wants or even can use auto stuff...they all need flexibility to accomodate all their individual hardware platforms
[03:28] <sasuke> i guys, i am using irssi for irc chat. i want to take backup in to a text file , for a channel , can anyone give me quick solution please . Its urgent
[03:28] <joehe> compliing what?
[03:29] <ironhalik> How can I debug crashing Cheese? GUVCview works ok, but cheese crashes after it tries to get the webcam feed
[03:29] <gkatsev> krababbel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359506/ thoughts?
[03:29] <bazhang> sasuke, try asking in #irssi
[03:29] <georgeph> L3top...nobody in Linux Users wants auto anything...they want tinkering capability
[03:29] <sasuke> bazhang: thanks
[03:30] <georgeph> L3top...these are not windows users
[03:31] <krababbe1> gkatsev: I don't know the boot process that well, sorry.
[03:31] <gkatsev> krababbe1: ok, thanks.
[03:32] <gkatsev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359506/ anyone know why ubuntu complains that it can't mount these drives during boot (have to hit `s' to skip) but when I log in, it works just fine? Thanks in advance.
[03:32] <joehe> kostkon: could you pls help  me ?
[03:34] <joehe> should i downloaded a libstdc++6 package from web?
[03:34] <kostkon> joehe, hmm, I dont' have anything else to suggest right now
[03:35]  * L3top would not try and install 4.6 on 1004.
[03:35] <kostkon> joehe, maybe, if you could find a ppa for example that provides gcc packages for 10.04. Another option would be to upgrade to 12.04.
[03:36] <NeedFreedom> Hi. i need help to set the internet connection on a precise/quantal. It's my mom pc. In windows 7, you first must connect to the ISP wifi network. Than you dial up a pppoe  connection over the wifi. Once you setup this, they connect automaticly on login. On a fresh install of precise, I connected to the wifi network, but I couldn't find a way to connect the dsl connection.
[03:36] <joehe> sorry  what is 'ppa' ?
[03:36] <L3top> !ppa | joehe
[03:36] <chalcedony> in ubuntu 12.04, how do i get a terminal with tabs?
[03:36] <chalcedony> or multiple terminals?
[03:37] <joeb3_> chalcedony, gnome-terminal
[03:37] <kostkon> chalcedony, right click → open tab?
[03:37] <Dmole> Or ctrl t
[03:38] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: could be you need the pppoeconf package?
[03:38] <chalcedony> joeb3_, click on terminal and it moves to that window/ .. lets you drag it but it's still one
[03:39] <ak5> can someone tell me what it means to "enable the component called 'universe'"
[03:39] <joeb3_> chalcedony, click File, Open Tab
[03:39] <Gerowen> ak5: There's a repository called "universe" that you need to enable.  Just open the "Software Sources" program, and put a check in the box next to it.
[03:41] <chalcedony> got it :) .. now it can't find the printer driver file. it's not in Downloads
[03:41] <ak5> Gerowen: can you tell me the cli version of that? do I edit sources.list?
[03:41] <Gerowen> Yeah the Universe repository should already be in there, you just un-comment it.
[03:41] <SierraAR> Is there any reason the startup disk creator seems to crash near the end of mounting the 12.04 64bit iso to a flash drive?
[03:42] <Gerowen> ak5: By un-commenting it you just remove the pound sign # from the beginning of the line.
[03:42] <ak5> Gerowen: if its not (some crazy vps) then where do I get the correct string (12.04 LTS)
[03:42] <Gerowen> ak5: Lemme look around for you, I'm using 12.10.
[03:42] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: I tried the pppoeconf. It worked but when i reboot it broke the networkmanager. THe systems hungup 60 seconds waiting the network to setup then fails. The problem is this should be simple like it's in windows 7, in a way i can tell my mon on telephone how to setup if needed. This is a very basic stuff, but i couldn't make this works stright, and i'm googling more than 1 hour with no sucess
[03:42] <ak5> Gerowen: thanks a bunch, I am googling in parallel
[03:44] <ak5> Seems harder to find than it should. Is there a good ubuntu wiki?
[03:44] <michael>   I install the ubuntu 10.04 and vnc4server, when I use vncviewer under XP to visit the server, I can't always see the desktop.when I get the "connection refused(10061)",if I ping ubuntu ip, I get TTL=255.
[03:45] <DBoyz> I am using ubuntu 11.10. How do i upgrade to 12.10 using iso mounting? I have downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> michael: you may want to find a vnc board to troubleshoot that issue.
[03:45] <Raspootis> Hello! I've got a little pc I've saved from being thrown out. 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 D, Nvidia 7400GT, 1GB RAM. Will it run Ubuntu 12.10 well?
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: Well it could be
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: I just took mine and removed the "quantal" and replaced it with the name for 12.04
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> Gerowen: "precise"
[03:46] <DaemonicApathy> Never mind me, I'm off to rest. -_-
[03:46] <Gerowen> DaemonicApathy: :P
[03:47]  * DBoyz waves
[03:47] <gkatsev> krababbe1: looks like it has to do with auto mounting NTFS partitions as `user'...
[03:47] <fermulator> Has anyone ever experienced a value of 0.0 in /proc/cpuinfo for CPU Mhz, running Unbuntu server 11.10 within VirtualBox.
[03:47] <krababbe1> gkatsev: thanks :)
[03:47] <blackshirt> good luck
[03:48] <gkatsev> krababbe1: how to fix it, I have no idea, though. :)
[03:48] <fermulator> http://pastebin.com/1DWS3jNT
[03:48] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: looks like network manager has a dsl tab, you probably should have used that instead of installing pppoeconf then
[03:50] <ak5> Gerowen: lol seems to worl
[03:50] <ak5> /s/worl/work
[03:51] <krababbe1> gkatsev: Not sure, could be that the partitions are mounted at boot by fstab, and you want to mount again? You could try to replace auto with noauto in fstab, but I am just guessing. :)
[03:51] <chalcedony> find and ls .. nothing
[03:51] <chalcedony> what else can i use?
[03:52] <blackshirt> chalcedony, what are you trying to solve ?
[03:52] <studentz> Move to quantal and  sharing  printer on a network is not working.
[03:52] <gkatsev> krababbe1: I found this "/dev/sdxx /media/Windows ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 0" which is slightly different.  noauto would probably solve it, except, I DO want it to auto-mount.
[03:52] <chalcedony> blackshirt, i want to find wherever brother printer software put their driver it's not in Dowloads ?
[03:53] <SierraAR> Alright so I'm having a small problem with mounting an ubuntu iso to a flash drive so that I can reinstall with a 64bit OS on my machine
[03:53] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: Yeah. Like I (tryed) to say, I used the network manager tab before trying the pppconf. I created the dsl connection. But it didn't startup it, neither I found anyplace (like the networkmanager menu to ask for dial up it).
[03:54] <blackshirt> chalcedony, you mean for installed or downloaded ?
[03:54] <DBoyz> the instructions in http://askubuntu.com/questions/125947/can-i-update-from-ubuntu-12-04-desktop-i386-iso-file doesn't seem to work
[03:54] <oldwhatevernuts> does anybody know where to get good info on airodump-ng when using linux
[03:54] <krababbe1> gkatsev: maybe replace the uuid with the /dev/sd.. ?
[03:55] <DBoyz> it requested for password. i keyed in my password and nothing happened next
[03:55] <chalcedony> blackshirt, i'm somewhere in the printer software installation. it's hard to know what the words should be
[03:55] <Gerowen> ak5: Glad it worked for ya, :-)
[03:55] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: As this installation is already f***ed up, I'll install xubuntu 12.10. But i suspect i'll have the same problem, because after this precise installation I tryied the quantal, but it was extremelly slow (like, 1 minute to open a window). And in the quantal I gotta the same issue
[03:56] <gkatsev> krababbe1: trying out "ntfs-config" if that doesn't fix it, i'll try /dev/ and the options in that line.
[03:56] <gkatsev> brb
[03:56] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: looks like a network manager issue?
[03:58] <krababbe1> gkatsev: there is also the possibility to install the ntfs-3g driver and replace ntfs with ntfs-3g in fstab.
[03:58] <blackshirt> chalcedony, i don't understand whta you mean, sorry
[03:58] <SierraAR> Alright found another way to do this. Whats the full path of the home directory on ubuntu?
[03:58] <SierraAR> .. Nevermind. I feel derpy. /home.
[03:59] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: maybe. I think the expected behaviour is to give a option to dialup it . My ethernet (eth0) was down, so this can confused the network manager. But If it expect a dsl connection to be dialled up only on ethernet, it's wrong
[04:00] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: yes, could be the combo of pppoe over wifi, never used that and I don't use network managaer at all.
[04:00] <krababbe1> seems unfinished in some areas
[04:01] <gkatsev> krababbe1: looks like ntfs-config did just that, re: ntfs-3g. Going to try /dev/sd...
[04:04] <chull> blackshirt http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104
[04:04] <chalcedony>  chull is my husband's computer
[04:06] <NeedFreedom> How do I turn off the network manager to use only the /etc/network/interfaces config????
[04:06] <SierraAR> Alright time to reboot and reinstall the 64bit version of ubuntu
[04:10] <blackshirt> hello, is there crucial differences between nat, bridging, and host only in vbox network type ?
[04:12] <blackshirt> needfreedom, you can disable networkmanager service at boot, or changes managed to false for network manager to not handle eth0 interfaces
[04:12] <blackshirt> hello, is there crucial differences between nat, bridging, and host only in vbox network type ?
[04:16] <ak5> Gerowen: can you pastebin your sources.list
[04:17] <ak5> Gerowen: I need to get all these repos up, I realized I have nothing
[04:17] <Gerowen> ak5: Ok, just remember to replace "quantal" with "precise for all yours.
[04:18] <Gerowen> ak5: http://paste.debian.net/209435/
[04:19] <thrownawaytrash> hey guys, anyone not AFK? quick question here if you guys don't mind
[04:20] <TheChemist> I'm here
[04:21] <thrownawaytrash> Hey Chemist, let me type in the Q... a little long
[04:22] <ak5> Gerowen: whats the difference between *-updates repos and th other ones
[04:23] <Gerowen> ak5: Not entirely certain, I haven't messed with mine since I installed ubuntu, there may be some from google that got added automatically, but that's it
[04:23] <ak5> ok
[04:23] <thrownawaytrash> 2 questions really (1) is it possible to have grub installed on a usb key, but the real installation of linux/ubuntu be in the real HDD? (link to the post i made on reddit for more clarification http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/134x7c/trying_out_ubuntu_with_wubi_takes_a_long_time_to/c70yox0)
[04:26] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: yes, it is.
[04:26] <TheChemist> I am not entirely sure, I don't believe so I don't see a logical way it can happen. Someone with more extensive knowledge may have a different answer but I (non difinitevely) have to say no
[04:26] <TheChemist> There you go, ty Stanley00
[04:27] <thrownawaytrash> alright. may have been possible in theory, but i guess it's probably too complicated to implement
[04:28] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: I have seen many people install grub to USB *by mistake* and they cannot boot into ubuntu when unplug the USB ;)
[04:30] <thrownawaytrash> well, that sort of is like the idea. have a physical key so that i can boot it as well as leaving the bootsector of the HDD in tact. so that when i don't want to test out ubuntu anymore i can just reclaim the HDD space in windows
[04:31] <Gerowen> Here's something that's pretty cool, but I have a question about it.
[04:31] <Gerowen> http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/
[04:31] <Gerowen> It says that my video card does not support WebGL.  I'm guessing that's because I'm using the open source ATI drivers?
[04:31] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: sorry, but I have to go now.
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> well if it's not possible or very hard, second question is that. say I do a proper dual boot, partition HDD to ext and have grub in the HDD and all, how do I take the ubuntu out when I want to? last time I did this, grub installed BEFORE the windows boot loader and I coulndn't boot to windows. this guy here (http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/134x7c/trying_out_ubuntu_with_wubi_takes_a_long_time_to/c716cph) says this is
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> that's what I need to do to get back to proper booting order
[04:34] <ak5> How do I hold packages via apt?
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> thanks, stanley00
[04:36] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : are yoy installing a dual boot system with M$soft windows & Ubuntu ?
[04:36] <gkatsev> how can I make ubuntu 12.10 not enable click-to-focus every several reboots?
[04:37] <TheChemist> Can someone give me the syntax for 10.04 to install a driver for my wireless usb adapter
[04:37] <almoxarife> Gerowen: do you have chrome/chromium web browser?
[04:37] <TheChemist> and possibly a download link for the last (not current) driver for the Belkin F9L 1002v1 Adapter
[04:39] <almoxarife> thrownawaytrash: you thought about a wubi install of ubuntu?
[04:40] <dj_p3> quick question. I installed ubuntu server to play with a few weeks ago on my extra laptop but I now need the laptop. Is making work like ubuntu desktop (obviously with all the server stuff installed still) as simple as a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[04:40] <Gerowen> almoxarife: Yeah I've tried it in Chrome and Firefox, it works in Firefox, it's just slow.  In Chrome I get the message telling me it doesn't support WebGL.
[04:41] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : when you remove ubuntu partitions ... use the Windows Install disk to fix the MBR
[04:41] <thrownawaytrash> almoxarife: that was actually what i have right now, however booting to it takes several minutes, and was told that you get a performance hit since it's still installed on an ntfs partition instead of a linux one
[04:42] <almoxarife> Gerowen: i dont use chrome, o use chromium, i am not sure why there would be a diff in capabilities, but its worth a try, then again your graphics could just not support it after all, which is it?
[04:43] <thrownawaytrash> Tex_Nick: just to clarify, boot into the windows CD, run command prompt and type in fixmbr, that's it, right?
[04:43] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I have an ATI Radeon HD 3100, which was left out of the loop for the latest proprietary ATI drivers, so I'm stuck using the open source ones, which seem to work well enough for me, but not well enough for Chrome to run WebGL apps, :-(
[04:44] <almoxarife> thrownawaytrash: do this, within win check the state of your ntfs system, checkdisk? defrag? , wubi has no control over the state of the ntfs system, yet it has to live in it
[04:44] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : yes ... that will get you back to a windows boot
[04:44] <TheChemist> Can someone give me the syntax for 10.04 to install a driver for my wireless usb adapter
[04:44] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : what version od win r u running ?
[04:45] <thrownawaytrash> win7 home 64
[04:45] <dj_p3> Gerowen: I came in late on your issue here so not sure the exact problem, have you tried the nightly chromium build?
[04:45] <almoxarife> Gerowen: i ran wubi for a few years, minutes to bootup is just too long, something is not running right
[04:46] <thrownawaytrash> Tex_Nick: i have the windows ISO already on USB too, just want to know if the procedure to get back to normal windows would be that easy
[04:46] <almoxarife> Gerowen: better yet, install virtualbox, install buntu as a guest, then be really cool and run seamless
[04:46] <Gerowen> dj_p3: I was just playing around with the new Google stars experiment at http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> almoxarife: i will definitely do that.
[04:47] <Gerowen> dj_p3: It runs in Firefox, but lags, so I installed Chrome just to give it a shot, and Chrome tells me my machine doesn't support WebGL and doesn't even attempt it.
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> thank you all for the advice, might see me again  though. for now, work
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> thanks again!
[04:48] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I don't really like Windows, I don't have a single computer with a Windows partition on it, so running ubuntu as a guest on an Ubuntu machine would be kind of redundent, :P
[04:48] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : yep it's that easy ... i play with dual boots a lot ... win & ubuntu ... it's common practice
[04:49] <almoxarife> Gerowen: my mistake, wrong nick, dont be a purist, dont you even keep a copy of win on virtual? i do
[04:49] <dj_p3> Gerowen: Hmmm, i have the same problem,  it doesn't work in chrome and is slow with firefox.
[04:49] <blarg> hi guys
[04:49] <almoxarife> Gerowen: have you tried installing the drivers for your card via 'jockey'
[04:50] <blarg> my nvidia driver is not loading on startup.  i can modprobe it, restart the session manager and it seems to work, but the system refuses to load the module.  update-alternatives lets me select any of the several nvidia kernals i have installed but the system still refuses to load them.
[04:51] <blarg> is there any way to force the system to load the driver on boot?
[04:52] <gkatsev> any ideas how to disable click-to-focus? Ubuntu 12.10 keeps enabling it (against my will). I prefer focus-follows-mouse.
[04:52] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : if you're not comfortable with linux file system you might want to delete partitions thru windows ... if you're more comfortable with win
[04:55] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I installed "jockey-gtk", but can't seem to get it to open at all.
[04:56] <Gerowen> I installed it, but when I try to run it from the terminal it just tells me it's not installed.
[04:58] <keith_> alsamixer show "M0" under my speaker 1. Pressing m switches it to "0M". But I want them to both be the same, i.e. "00" or "MM", how do I do this?
[04:58] <dj_p3> Gerowen: What happens if you go to chrome and type in chrome://gpu-internals  ?
[04:58] <phreck> fireworks
[05:00] <Gerowen> dj_p3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359600/
[05:00] <Gerowen> dj_p3: Guess it's the open source drivers, oh well.
[05:04] <tester> hey guys
[05:07] <visof> hello
[05:08] <visof> i want to run script every 3 second, what should cron be ?
[05:09] <almoxarife> Gerowen: do you have the headers for the kernel installed? , if this command takes then you dont, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'
[05:09] <tester> i have a question can some people help me
[05:09] <blackshirt> hello tester
[05:09] <tester> sup
[05:09] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I do.
[05:10] <blackshirt> !ask | tester
[05:10] <tester> i have a hp pavilian g series and wifi is not working
[05:11] <almoxarife> tester: on the machine you are on right now?
[05:11] <Tex_Nick> I'm considering a Nexus 7 for the grandkids christmas gift ... I have them running ubuntu now on 2 desktops ... they love it ... can anyone tell me how the new ubuntu port to nexus 7 is working ... good or not good
[05:11] <tester> yws
[05:11] <tester> yes'
[05:12] <ms_> ms_ joined #ubuntu........    hey!!! hi everyBody :)
[05:13] <almoxarife> tester: try to start your wifi thru what ever means you would use, i assume it wont work, then pastebin file /var/log/syslog
[05:14] <tester> oh ok
[05:14] <tester> command not found
[05:15] <tester> pastebin file /var/log/syslog it say command not found
[05:15] <tester> oh and i have black ubuntu
[05:15] <Derp> hehe
[05:15] <almoxarife> tester: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:16] <keith_> I have created a script to handle the muting/unmuting for my computer. It works fine when I run it from the terminal. But when I use the keyboard settings and disable the Audio mute button in Sound and Media and then create a custom shortcut using the Audio mute button which executes my script, it doesn't work properly. How can I fix this?
[05:16] <tester> unable to locate
[05:17] <almoxarife> !pastebin | tester
[05:17] <karlpinc> How do I report a bug?  This  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531078  is fixed (and fixed in debian stable), but not fixed in Ubuntu lucid lts.
[05:21] <tester> almoxarife: im still lost i havent used ubuntu in years
[05:22] <arinov_> hi
[05:22] <almoxarife> tester: the file to share is /var/log/syslog , you could copy paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com and then share the url created by the site
[05:22] <arinov_> which program can download whole website content?
[05:23] <arinov_> i tried wget -rv and it downloads only one php file
[05:24] <almoxarife> arinov_: you want to mirror the site?
[05:24] <t35t0r> anyone able to get webgl working with google-chrome-beta v23+ ubuntu 12.10, intel core graphics? Works for me in firefox. Tried google-chrome --disable-gpu-blacklist, went into chrome://flags also and made sure the disable web-gl api is disabled but still no go
[05:25] <arinov_> almoxarife, just save
[05:25] <almoxarife> t35t0r: i have same graphics, chromium works out of the box for me
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> arinov : try a strawbery perl install ... there are several perl scripts that will allow you to do just that
[05:28] <t35t0r> ok it's --ignore-gpu-blacklist
[05:28] <tester> i setill need help cansome one pm me
[05:28] <t35t0r> about::gpu to test
[05:28] <tester> i still need help can someone om me
[05:28] <almoxarife> tester: where is the pastebin?
[05:29] <tester> what is that
[05:29] <tester> i havent used this in along time
[05:29] <almoxarife> !pastebin | tester
[05:29] <tester> what am i supposed to do ?
[05:30] <almoxarife> tester: the file to share is /var/log/syslog , you could copy paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com and then share the url created by the site
[05:30] <syq> I wrote an init scripts and put it to /etc/init.d, then service fdjfjdjf start/stop/status can work
[05:30] <syq> while when reboot, it can not boot
[05:30] <tester> ohhh
[05:30] <tester> ok one
[05:30] <syq> It seems that it even didn't execute at all
[05:31] <t35t0r> damnick, webgl is so much faster with chrome than with firefox
[05:31] <t35t0r> hah stupid autocomplete :(
[05:31] <almoxarife> syq: looked at /var/log/syslog ? see what happened?
[05:32] <tester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359638/
[05:32] <syq> almoxarife: nothing happend, even I put "date > /tmp/tmpfile" on the top of script, it shows nothing
[05:35] <sbarreros> Hello all, Is there a way that a user can connect to my ssh server from a workstation and then I would like to use that connection to somehow connect back to the workstation?
[05:35] <tester> @almoxarife:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359638/
[05:38] <tester> hello? almoxarife
[05:38] <almoxarife> tester: what kind of wifi connection is that?
[05:39] <lordlekalum> how do load 12.10 on my pc from a usb drive?
[05:39] <tester> i dont have wifi connectional all i dont think dirvers for the wifi device intergrated in my pc
[05:40] <almoxarife> tester: are you tethering with a phone?
[05:40] <tester> no im using my modem
[05:40] <almoxarife> syq: pastebin the file /var/log/syslog
[05:41] <kushal_k`> lordlekalum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:50] <almoxarife> tester:  i am confused, how do you get wifi? model and connection type
[05:52] <tester> in not connected to wifi im hardwired into dls modem
[05:55] <ms_> test
[05:55] <ms_> test00
[05:56] <lollko> morning
[05:56] <ms_> test01
[05:56] <cookie1980> morning
[05:56] <Jordan_U> ms_: Please stop that.
[05:56] <almoxarife> ms_: take it to #test
[05:57] <simplew> i have tried to upload a  package into launchpad but when is missing 1 k to end the upload it stops and the task remains unfinished, does anyone have a clue about whats happning?
[05:57] <alof_> tester, if your answer has not yet been answered here you may find more help at #linaro
[05:58] <ms_> Jordan_U: ok,  it was just a test. But did u listen sth or ....?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> ms_: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions, not for tests. Like almoxarife said, next time please use #test for tests.
[05:59] <whatwhat> so 11.04 no longer
[06:00] <whatwhat> supported
[06:00] <whatwhat> so what should i do now
[06:00] <almoxarife> alof_: what is #linaro?
[06:00] <whatwhat> can i upgrade to 11.5
[06:00] <Jordan_U> !eol | whatwhat
[06:00] <alof_> well supported has always been a stretch for 11.04
[06:00] <alof_> linaro is the version of linux that 'tester' is running
[06:00] <almoxarife> alof_: got you,
[06:01] <almoxarife> !linaro
[06:01] <alof_> :)
[06:01] <almoxarife> alof_: i dont think tester ever brought up 'arm' :)
[06:01] <ms_> Jordan_U: before I will use this I've to learn how to use this. I saw that this make some of u angry hein.... lol. ok I'll not repeat it again and again.... ok ok ok ok
[06:02] <simplew> almoxarife: linaro its a distro
[06:03] <simplew> so no one have a clue why my package isnt upload into launchpad...
[06:04] <almoxarife> simplew: clueless
[06:05] <alof_> sry simplew
[06:05] <tester> humm no one is on that #linaro
[06:06] <tester> hello i have a hp pavilian g series pc and running Black ubuntu my intergrated wifi card and dirivers are not reconized by ubuntu black
[06:07] <dwarder> i'm in a dir that got deleted and created how do i "refresh" it withoute doing cd ..; cd mydir
[06:07] <Stanley00> tester: what is your ubuntu version?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> simplew: The exact command you're running and its full output might help.
[06:08] <tester> ubuntu black
[06:08] <Jordan_U> dwarder: What's wrong with "cd ..; cd mydir"? You can also do: cd "$PWD"
[06:09] <Stanley00> tester: you can look at the channel topic to see we don't support ubuntu "black"...
[06:09] <alof_> tester, not trying to be rude but have you googled 'blackbuntu wifi troubleshooting' there seems to be a bandwagon for your issue
[06:10] <tester> yes i counldent find it and thats not rude
[06:10] <almoxarife> tester: really? you are using sniffer/cracker/ buntu and you cant get wifi working? its time to downgrade a bit buddy!
[06:10] <dwarder> Jordan_U: what if it is a long path?
[06:11] <alof_> tester, have you tried using the nvidia driver?
[06:11] <tester> noway i like it im trying to learn it
[06:11] <tester> oh im on a laptop
[06:11] <almoxarife> alof_: nvidia for wifi?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> dwarder: Then 'cd "$PWD" ' should still work.
[06:11] <alof_> almoxarife, whoa, watchit buddy!!! lol
[06:12] <simplew> Jordan_U: i dont think will help in anyway but you can see it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359681
[06:12] <alof_> almoxarife, it's after midnight
[06:12]  * alof_ needs sleep
[06:12] <simplew> Jordan_U: when misses 1k to finish upload it simply stops
[06:12] <Jordan_U> simplew: Try asking in #launchpad.
[06:13] <Aprel> Using udfstools/mkudffs, how can I add a "title" when creating a UDF image; "title" meaning the string that displays as the drive when the cd is inserted.
[06:13]  * alof_ chucks up some duces and heads to bed
[06:15] <Aprel> Or does anyone know what that disc label is called? It's the equivalent of mkisofs -V "this label"
[06:16] <Stanley00> Aprel: just look at the man page, it's --vid or --lvid
[06:17] <dwarder> Jordan_U: indeed thanks ;0
[06:17] <dwarder> :)
[06:17] <whatwhat> so what's the spec required to the lastest ubuntu
[06:17] <Jordan_U> dwarder: You're welcome
[06:17] <whatwhat> will the updater resume where it stop when connection drop
[06:17] <Aprel> Stanley00: yeah, I saw that, but wasn't sure which. Wanted to dblcheck before creating and burning.
[06:17] <Jordan_U> whatwhat: Yes.
[06:19] <marsfligth> My Precise has the 80 port open and Apache answers too. I never opened it and no applications asked me the permit. This means that if I'd a internal modem to connect directly to wan, for instance, all the word should visit my Apache server entering into my Computer. Why Ubuntu put in so in risk the users giving a false sense of security?
[06:20] <whatwhat> so what's the spec required to the lastest ubuntu
[06:21] <almoxarife> marsfligth: so, what you are saying is that 'apache' came preloaded on precise?
[06:21] <Stanley00> marsfligth: apache is not installed by default.
[06:21] <Aprel> marsfligth: probably because if that wasn't the default, most people would complain that they installed Apache and can't figure out why it's not accepting connections.
[06:22] <almoxarife> marsfligth: and you of course did not install it, are you behind a router/firewall?
[06:22] <leftist> morning. is it possiblee to run ubuntu on a microsoft surface platform?
[06:23] <leftist> i dont have any touch screens so i dont have any familiarity with using linux of any variety on that platform
[06:23] <almoxarife> leftist: at the very least you should be able to run it virtual(virtualbox)
[06:23] <leftist> yeah
[06:23] <marsfligth> almoxarife: yes fortunately
[06:23] <leftist> is the platform that closed?
[06:24] <no-n> I get no sound from my headphones. This didn't work http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/04/headphones-not-working-no-sound-under.html
[06:24] <almoxarife> marsfligth: thank god you didnt open yourself to the world
[06:24] <leftist> btw is this freenode?
[06:25] <bazhang> leftist, ask in #freenode
[06:25] <almoxarife> yeap, freenode
[06:25] <leftist> ok
[06:25] <leftist> :)
[06:25] <almoxarife> bazhang: still being mr wonderful, i see
[06:25] <bazhang> almoxarife, pardon me?
[06:26] <almoxarife> bazhang: its called humor
[06:26] <bazhang> almoxarife, care to PM with me?
[06:26] <almoxarife> bazhang: sure, give me a sec, i need to unset something
[06:28] <leftist> i've been running ubuntu on various platforms since hoary.  i currently have a few laptops with 10.10 and 10.04.  i know 10.10 is dead.  i don't dig the windows managers these later version default to.  i'm kinda out of date with the scene i guess.
[06:28] <leftist> my question is can i maintain my current 10.10 interface with whatever the current release lts ver is today?
[06:28] <leftist> i cant relate to the default interfaces i have seen. they suck.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> leftist: No, but you can get something very similar from XFCE (Xubuntu).
[06:29] <marsfligth> This is an anomaly. Keep as exemple windows from xp sp2, before to open a port it asks if you agree or not even if it is apache or skype. So, the world is migrating to Linux because it is secure and what we discovwery? it opens wan ports ww/o ask to the pc owner. this is a terrible manner to abandon the users and during the time maybe be an insecurity like this should emigrate again them
[06:30] <leftist> yeah i looked at probably 50 different distros but i prefer 10.10/10.04 environment. so i am really stuck.
[06:31] <marsfligth> Anyway, using Precice I'm secure as if I'd using windows 2k more or less. It for instance opens the ports w/s ask
[06:31] <no-n> I get no sound from my headphones. This didn't work http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/04/headphones-not-working-no-sound-under.html
[06:31] <Stanley00> marsfligth: are you sure about that? I think it just open to *localhost* only...
[06:31] <marsfligth> great shot linux guys
[06:31] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: If you don't have a support question please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Stanley00: No, it's definitely open to the world.
[06:32] <marsfligth> im morre than sure I teste wit nmap many times
[06:32] <Stanley00> nmap run on localhost?
[06:32] <Stanley00> marsfligth:  nmap run on localhost?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Stanley00: Installing Apache causes Apache to listen on port 80, for connections from anywhere.
[06:33] <leftist> zenmap is nice
[06:33] <Stanley00> Jordan_U: how about iptables, and ufw?
[06:33] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: then security questions are off topic? if yes this is the reason because Ubuntu is totally insecure
[06:34] <marsfligth> Stanley00: no, from another Ubuntu into my LAN
[06:35] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: You haven't asked a security question, you've stated your opinion about a decision to configure Apache to listen on port 80 by default. We don't control the decisions of the Ubuntu developers, and you aren't asking a technical support question. Please take offtopic discussion elsewhere.
[06:36] <marsfligth> Stanley00: Ok, IPtables and ufw hardering the os, but i cant understand why the most insecure os in the world ask before open a port and Ubuntu not
[06:37] <Stanley00> marsfligth: OK, I got it. Now you can look at what Jordan_U said.
[06:37] <twins> Ok, Thank you
[06:37] <SwedeMike> marsfligth: file a feature request with ubuntu for the functionality. That is going to be more productive than trying to continue your discussion here.
[06:38] <twins> oh, that's all right
[06:38] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: what the sense to speak about tecnichal question wile maybe some one is 'rm -rf' my system from wan. do you understant what i mean or have i to be more clear?
[06:39] <twins> aha
[06:39] <putkonen> hi
[06:39] <twins> but ...en
[06:39] <putkonen> is there some problem with extras.ubuntu.com?
[06:39] <putkonen> cannot access it
[06:39] <jaxdahl2> possibly.
[06:40] <putkonen> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[06:40] <twins> No networking~
[06:40] <twins> apt-get install or update
[06:40] <Tm_T> putkonen: hi, you might like to ask/poke people at #canonical-sysadmin (:
[06:40] <jaxdahl2> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/extras.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <putkonen> down it is then
[06:41] <leftist> here is a very good article on http://www.zdnet.com/does-the-surface-spat-open-the-door-for-linux-7000002268/
[06:42] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: This channel is not for discussion of technical policy with reguard to Apache. If you want to know how to stop Apache from listening to port 80, that is a valid support question and we will be glad to help you there.
[06:44] <jiltdil> How to password protect bittorrent in ubuntu for normal user
[06:44] <twins> @leftist:very good!
[06:45] <almoxarife> jiltdil: it is password protected , the user has to log in with a password dont he?
[06:46] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Oh ! please understand my question
[06:47] <jiltdil> almoxarife, To open bittorent he need sudo privalages i mean to say
[06:47] <oldwhatevernuts> hello
[06:48] <almoxarife> jiltdil: to open the client ?
[06:48] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Yes
[06:48] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: come on Jordan, don't joke please. By google if one is not able to close the door find all instructions in minutes w/o ask here. the problem is not Apache at all, the problem is Ubuntu and how we speak about security problem in here, i think to pretend that an os asks before open ports putting the user in serius risks, this for me is a very big problem tath cant be solved by sending a nice mail to devoplers.
[06:48] <marsfligth> obyously the should ask only if many users ask the same. this should be my target
[06:48] <Stanley00> jiltdil: well, why don't you give the read and execute permission to the user yo want?
[06:48] <jiltdil> almoxarife,Means When a normal user in my machine want to open bittorent he will ask for sudo password
[06:49] <jiltdil> Stanley00,  For Torrent , how to do this?
[06:49] <almoxarife> jiltdil: you could make the client a 'root' only process?
[06:49] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Please tell how to do this
[06:50] <Stanley00> jiltdil: what is the command to run bittorent? chmod o-rwx command-here
[06:50] <almoxarife> jiltdil: but i am not sure what the outcome the output from the client would be afterwards, i am guessing the files become owned by root
[06:50] <Stanley00> jiltdil: then chgrp that prog, and add user to the group. that's easy.
[06:51] <jiltdil> StackProphet, almoxarife Ok i am trying
[06:52] <almoxarife> i like the idea of 'group' better, makes it cleaner
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> I have one (and only one) 12.04 system that's refusing to upgrade aptitude to the latest version, always saying it's been kept back.  The installed is 0.6.6-1ubuntu1 and the candidate is 0.6.6-1ubuntu1.1 - anyone know what's going on there?
[06:52] <blackshirt> almoxarife, what you mean with it ?
[06:53] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: what happens if you do "sudo apt-get install aptitude" ?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: aptitude : Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.3) but 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2 is to be installed
[06:53] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: it might tell you why it doesn't upgrade (missing dependency, conflict, etc)
[06:53] <Tm_T> there you go
[06:54] <almoxarife> blackshirt: <Stanley00> jiltdil: then chgrp that prog, and add user to the group. that's easy. <-- what Stanley00 said
[06:54] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: next step, same summoning for that dependency to see why it doesn't upgrade
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: No higher candidate of that one...my mirror must be wonky.
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: wait, scratch that.
[06:55]  * tonyyarusso can't read
[06:55] <leftist> @ twins it's all about money. but you can't talk about it in this channel anyway.
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: There's a newer version but with a lower priority?
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: http://pastebin.com/CmuN4Vuh
[06:57] <Miscni> question: anybody know a how to; how to add Nvidia-settings GPU Scaling
[06:57] <dixoncx> Please Help.. Suddenly my root filesystem freespaces suddenly droped to less than 300mb. After restarting system, it shows 3.5 GB free. (deleted some unwanted files manually too). Here are some screenshots: nautilus properties- http://i.imgur.com/3UODg.png , System monitor- http://i.imgur.com/SbPGG.png , disk usage analyser- http://i.imgur.com/wgwAN.png
[06:59] <Ben64> dixoncx: whats your question
[07:00] <dixoncx> Ben64: How to regain free space ?
[07:00] <Ben64> by deleting files
[07:00] <Ben64> you could also try bleachbit
[07:01] <Ben64> !info bleachbit
[07:02] <dixoncx> Ben64: kindly check screenshots. naulilus shows used space in home as 3.2 GB, look disk analyser - it shows 19Gb used ???
[07:04] <Ben64> dixoncx: run this in the terminal and pastebin the output - "du -h ~/ --max-depth 1"
[07:04] <no-n> what is the difference between apt-get remove and apt-get autoremove?
[07:05] <wastrel> you use apt-get remove to uninstall a package,  apt-get autoremove  removes packages that were installed as dependencies that are no longer necessary
[07:08] <dixoncx> Ben64: here: http://pastebin.com/2HVvNH52 It shows: 18G     /home/dixon/
[07:10] <Ben64> dixoncx: you must have a lot of files in your home directory taking up that space
[07:12] <dixoncx> Ben64: But nautilus says /home/dixon contains 18,370 items, totalling 3.2 GB
[07:13] <Ben64> so? du shows it as ~14GB
[07:14] <dixoncx> Ben64: means ?
[07:14] <Ben64> you have about 14GB of files in your home directory
[07:15] <almoxarife> dixoncx: no, you have 2.3gig of free space, as per nautilus
[07:16] <dixoncx> almoxarife: I agree, but this:  contains 18,370 items, totalling 3.2 GB
[07:16] <Ben64> I don't know why you're arguing
[07:17] <dixoncx> Ben64: I want to delete all those expect this 3.2 GB from my home folder.
[07:17] <almoxarife> dixoncx: try this, reboot, and look at the result, does it change? i see what you are saying, there is a mis-match somewhere
[07:18] <Ben64> who knows how nautilus counts it though
[07:18] <Ben64> maybe it skips hidden files
[07:19] <almoxarife> dixoncx: but as Ben64 said, 'bleachbit' would help
[07:20] <almoxarife> dixoncx: where the command failed as shown in your last pastebin, those are root owned files in a user dir/folder, are they counted?
[07:21] <almoxarife> dixoncx: run nautilus as gksu, do the numbers change?
[07:22] <Ben64> I don't even see the problem. du shows accurate numbers
 they are online radio playlist files. Nautilus says: 12 items, totalling 0 bytes
[07:24] <almoxarife> dixoncx: that total is impossible, run 'gksu nautilus --no-desktop , see any diff?
[07:26] <almoxarife> dixoncx: who owns the files in this dir /home/dixon/Desktop/Desktop/Radio/Radio ??? btw, that is not a healthy looking tree,
 'gksudo  nautilus' says same, as /home contains:  18,385 items, totalling 3.2 GB. Also what is --no-desktop option ?
[07:27] <almoxarife> dixoncx: so that you dont start a nautilus desktop, dont want to have two
 <almoxarife>: they are online radio playlist files. Nautilus says: 12 items, totalling 0 bytes <-- what did gksu nautilus say about them? they actually zero content?
 ls -l of ../Radio: http://pastebin.com/8j6Ew09F
[07:31] <dixoncx>  gksu nautilus says same.
[07:32] <almoxarife> dixoncx: as it should
 All those wired things happened with in just  2 hours. Before i had more than 50% free space in root file system.
[07:34] <Ben64> dixoncx: if you don't mind us seeing all your files, pastebin "ls ~/ -hoaSr"
[07:34] <almoxarife> dixoncx: install 'fslint' look for dups within your home dir
[07:35] <almoxarife> dixoncx: you have the dir 'desktop' inside of the dir 'desktop'
 yes
[07:36] <almoxarife> dixoncx: you have radio dir in radio dir too
 "ls ~/ -hoaSr" shows -rw-------  1 dixon  14G Nov 15 12:03 .xsession-errors.old !!! Whats this ?
[07:36] <Ben64> there you go
[07:36] <Ben64> 14GB
[07:37] <Ben64> like I predicted
[07:37] <jacta> when installing ubuntu and windows7 as dualboot, which system is best to put in first?
[07:37] <Ben64> jacta: windows
[07:38] <almoxarife> Ben64: wont the ubuntu install replace MBR with grub2?
[07:38] <Ben64> almoxarife: yeah, thats how you'd want it
[07:38] <almoxarife> Ben64: you better tell jacta
[07:39] <almoxarife> some people wig when they dont see their win boot thing
 <almoxarife>: why 14GB .xsession-errors.old in my system ? can i delete it ?
[07:39] <Ben64> if you install windows second, it overwrites the MBR and doesn't give you a way to boot ubuntu
[07:39] <Ben64> dixoncx: Yes you can delete it. You must have had a LOT of errors recently.
[07:39] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to deal with a router which doesn't allow the dns  or dhcp server to be configured and I want to use a different dns server but then I can't access computers in my local network using their hostnames and since the dhcp server can't be configured, they will have different IP's from time to time. Is there a way of falling back to the router dns server when a name is not found, or to use the router dns server only for certain hostna
[07:39] <aristidesfl>  so I can still use the external dns server, except when I want to access computers in the local network?
[07:40] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: router issue?
[07:40] <Ben64> aristidesfl: you could either get a new router, or have a computer provide dhcp and dns services
[07:41] <aristidesfl> I can't neither
[07:41] <aristidesfl> that's why I'm trying to find a suitable configuration
 Thanks, deleted. 14 GB of errors !!
[07:41] <aristidesfl> which allows my server to reach my laptop
[07:42] <aristidesfl> almoxarife ISP router
[07:42] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: if you use the computer with ubuntu on it, it can act as a dns/dhcp server
[07:42] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but then I will have 2 dhcp servers
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: so you have a router then that does provide dhcp
[07:43] <aristidesfl> yes
[07:43] <aristidesfl> can't be turned off
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to provide dns?
[07:43] <aristidesfl> it already dow
[07:43] <aristidesfl> does
[07:43] <aristidesfl> but I don't want to use that dns server
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: which?
[07:43] <aristidesfl> I want to use google's
[07:44] <aristidesfl> I don't want to use the router's because it's configured with the ISP servers which are slow
[07:44] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to use your own dns on your computer?
[07:44] <aristidesfl> I want to use <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:44] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to use your own dns on your computer?
[07:45] <aristidesfl> almoxarife I don't think so
[07:45] <burtonium> i guess he wants dhcp to delegate googles dns instead the ones ISP has allocated
[07:45] <aristidesfl> burtonium no
[07:45] <aristidesfl> dhcp delegates router's IP
[07:45] <aristidesfl> dhcp delegates router's DNS*
[07:46] <aristidesfl> which is configured with ISP DNS
[07:46] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you can set your machine to its own dns
[07:46] <aristidesfl> so I want to bypass routers DNS except for certain hostnames
[07:46] <aristidesfl> like the hostname of my laptop
[07:46] <aristidesfl> needs to be resolved by the router's DNS
[07:47] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: so you do want to setup a dns(cache) at least on your machine
[07:47] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: or another machine within the network
[07:48] <aristidesfl> I'm listening
[07:48] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: look at 'dnscache' package
[07:48] <aristidesfl> how will that resolve the situation
[07:48] <arunkumar413> how to share laptop  wireless internet with other computer using  the ethernet port
[07:49] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you dont control the router it seems
[07:50] <aristidesfl> I don;t
[07:50] <aristidesfl> keep going
[07:51] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you dont want to use the dns as per the router, you need to have something that will, BIND9 and dnsmasq will do that, i would not recommend bind9, unless you already know dns
[07:51] <almoxarife> aristidesfl:  what version of ubuntu you have?
[07:52] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but how will my dns server know the hostnames of other computers in the local network?
[07:52] <aristidesfl> 12.04
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: the host names to ip are kept in /etc/hosts
[07:53] <arunkumar413> join #raspberrypi
[07:53] <aristidesfl> almoxarife who puts them there?
[07:53] <marun> aristidesfl: you should manually create A records and PTR records in your zone file... If you have own dns
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: thats the easy part, unless you have alooooooooooooooot of them
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you do
[07:53] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but the ips are random
[07:53] <aristidesfl> assigned by the dhcp server
[07:54] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: random? within a internal network?
[07:54] <aristidesfl> yes
[07:55] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: thats right, you dont control the router, if they are random i have no idea, that issue i have not had to resolve on this end,
[07:55] <aristidesfl> http://www.mbpgsu.ca/mbpblog/files/2010/12/facepalm-500x400.jpg
[07:56] <jacta> Ben64, and would you suggest 12.04 or 12.10?
[07:56] <Ben64> jacta: 12.04 has longer support, and will upgrade directly to 14.04
[07:56] <burtonium> you can't simply solve your problem, since you don't control your routers dhcp and dns settings
[07:56] <iwaffles> Any reason why I can ssh but not sftp any longer with one particular user account on my server?
[07:57] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: are you saying that some comp on the network could have the ip of some other comp on the same network within days?
[07:57] <burtonium> so you will have to get yourself a decent router or you can forget simple solution
[07:57] <aristidesfl> almoxarife yes
[07:57] <aristidesfl> every time I connect to the network I could have a different IP
[07:58] <burtonium> your dhco server should have option to bind mac address to certain IP address
[07:58] <burtonium> so you will always get same ip
[07:58] <aristidesfl> it doesn't
[07:58] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: let me guess, you wifi in to it too
[07:58] <aristidesfl> it's locked down by the ISP
[07:58] <burtonium> call them to give you a password
[07:58] <almoxarife> burtonium: he does not control the router :)
[07:58] <burtonium> of a router
[07:59] <aristidesfl> almoxarife I control it
[07:59] <burtonium> i know, so he should call his IPS to give him control
[07:59] <aristidesfl> but it's locked down
[07:59] <burtonium> you own your LAN
[07:59] <aristidesfl> burtonium they wont
[07:59] <burtonium> they can't own your LAN, no way
[07:59] <aristidesfl> it's their equipment
[07:59] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: then you want to stop the random stuff, fix the machines to an ip
[07:59] <aristidesfl> and they have a backdoor
[08:00] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: mac to ip?
[08:00] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but then I have to re-configure it to dhcp when I leave the house
[08:00] <aristidesfl> and then back to static when I arrive
[08:00] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: see the link you posted, good luck
[08:01] <juniour> can nay one naem good video,photo editor
[08:01] <marun> hi how to i create automatic proxy configuration script in squid? I want to deploy this file in all the client browsers in my network
[08:01] <juniour> can any one name good video,photo editor
[08:02] <burtonium> GIMP for pictures
[08:02] <Stanley00> juniour: imo : openshot, gimp, inkscape
[08:02] <burtonium> video I dont know
[08:02] <juniour> int this which one is good
[08:02] <juniour> imo : openshot, gimp, inkscape
[08:03] <marun> any suggestions about my question?
[08:03] <Stanley00> juniour: imo: all of them is good. That's why I list it here.
[08:03] <Stanley00> *are
[08:03] <juniour> k thaks
[08:03] <juniour> :)
[08:03] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: i dont know what router you got, mine runs dhcp with mac reservation if wanted, mine is about the avg router out-there, seems to me that option is open to you, thats all i got
[08:04] <marun>  hi how to i create automatic proxy configuration script in squid? I want to deploy this file in all the client browsers in my network
[08:04] <Stanley00> marun: try asking in #squid
[08:05] <marun> stanley00: ok Thank you
[08:05] <almoxarife> !squid
[08:05] <Stanley00> !away | Albastos|off
[08:07] <meant0m> whats the off topic channel name?
[08:07] <Stanley00> !ot > meant0m
[08:09]  * meant0m thanks Stanley00
[08:09] <iwaffles> Anyone know why I cannot login via sftp but I can via ssh?
[08:10] <juniour> is there any download manager like idm(windows) for ubuntu 12.04LTS
[08:10] <Stanley00> iwaffles: so what happens?
[08:11] <iwaffles> Gets rejected automatically, not sure why
[08:11] <ix_> how do I setup lilo on ubuntu? I've installed it, I've installed it on the mbr, now what?
[08:11] <Stanley00> juniour: there downthemall addon for firefox
[08:11] <Stanley00> ix_: why lilo? grub is better.
[08:11] <iwaffles> Stanley00: I can log in using other accounts on sftp, but not mine
[08:12] <ix_> Stanley00, I have a problem and I want to test if grub is the problem, sometimes when booting, I get a blinking cursor just afret grub
[08:12] <juniour>  Stanley00 installing Gimp,Inkspace,Openshot thanks for suggestion
[08:12] <ix_> after
[08:12] <iwaffles> Grr guess it was a problem with the authorized_keys
[08:12] <iwaffles> oops.
[08:12] <Stanley00> iwaffles: ah, well, I can't help you with that, never use sftp before. sorry.
[08:13] <juniour>  Stanley00 k
[08:13] <Stanley00> juniour: :)
[08:18] <jidor> hello
[08:18] <Smoochict> hello jidor
[08:19] <juniour>  Stanley00 any good video format convertor or video to mp3 convertor
[08:19] <juniour>  Stanley00 i know about ffmpeg
[08:19] <Smoochict> !offtopic | smoochict
[08:20] <juniour> can nay one mane video convertor
[08:21] <Stanley00> juniour: I think openshot can does that, and vlc, mencoder, winffmpeg too. mencoder is command only,
[08:21] <juniour> k
[08:22] <jacta> Ben64, thanks :)
[08:23] <jidor> How to open a txt Files in terminal?
[08:23] <Smoochict> jidor: you can use an editor called vim/vi or one called nano if you have it installed.
[08:23] <jidor> I don't mean that
[08:24] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: ffmpeg
[08:24] <jidor> If i wanna view a PDF
[08:24] <Smoochict> like open a windows to edit the text file?
[08:26] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: my script looks like : ffmpeg -i "$files" -vn -y -f wav - 2> /dev/null| $lame --preset standard - "$out.mp3"
[08:26] <brontosaurusrex> but there is also an option to use intergraded lamer
[08:26] <juniour>  brontosaurusrex there are to many thing in ffmpeg
[08:27] <juniour> :)
[08:28] <endstille> good morning, i have a question about git. i pulled a change, that made my software unusuable. how can i revert the change locally? i'm new to git.. thank you =)
[08:28] <vividor_follador> ofjkerog
[08:28] <vividor_follador> hola
[08:28] <vividor_follador> jiòiger
[08:28] <vividor_follador> çholoa
[08:28] <vividor_follador> alguien kiere saqlami???
[08:29] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: sure, and it lacks proper documentation
[08:29] <vividor_follador> holoaaa
[08:29] <avelldiroll> juniour: are you searching for a gui or a command line tool ?
[08:29] <jidor> Yeah
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hoolaaaaaaa
[08:29] <vividor_follador> fjihewg+
[08:29] <porno> ola
[08:29] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: basically the more you read than "man" dumbest you are, should be smarter instead ...
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hola
[08:29] <juniour>  avelldiroll any one so i can use smoothly
[08:29] <somsip> vividor_follador: do you have a support question?
[08:29] <vividor_follador> gkjhegr
[08:29] <vividor_follador> jrdsi+
[08:29] <ikonia> !es | vividor_follador
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hollaaaaaa
[08:30] <porno> q tl con santi
[08:30] <jidor> the cmd [open flename.pdf in IOS is proper]
[08:30] <somsip> !ops vividor_follador is spamming
[08:30] <vividor_follador> gilipollas
[08:30] <avelldiroll> juniour: that does not answer my question, there is a ton of them
[08:30] <somsip> !ops | vividor_follador is spamming
[08:30] <juniour> brontosaurusrex the documentation of ffmpeg sucks
[08:30] <ikonia> porno: vividor_follador enough
[08:30] <somsip> ikonia: ah - soz
[08:30] <ikonia> somsip: it's fine
[08:30] <juniour> commandline
[08:30] <avelldiroll> juniour: for a gui, i would go to avidemux, for a cli i would stick to ffmpeg
[08:31] <juniour> k
[08:31] <avelldiroll> or mencoder or cvlc
[08:31] <juniour> thanks :)
[08:31] <juniour> kzxjbcxzjg
[08:34] <endstille> !de | endstille
[08:53] <Chartax> Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a rather odd issue. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and occasionally have issues connecting to my WPA2-Personal secured wireless network
[08:53] <Chartax> Sometimes, it connects, and other times it can't see any networks
[08:54] <Chartax> Windows seems to work fine with it, however, which would lead me to believe it's some sort of driver issue.
[08:55] <Stanley00> Chartax: what is your wifi card? I had this problem with broadcom BCM 4313 before.
[08:56] <Chartax> It's integrated with the motherboard, a Ralink 802.11 bgn 1T1R
[08:56] <Leonard2> How do I ask questions?
[08:56] <Stanley00> Leonard2: you did ask a question.
[08:57] <Leonard2> I noticed.  Thanks.
[08:57] <Stanley00> Chartax: did you try look at additional driver?
[09:00] <Chartax> In the settings? Yeah, all I had was Nvidia stuff
[09:00] <Chartax> I searched around and found a "driver" on their website
[09:00] <Chartax> but I have no idea how to use the file I downloaded, or even if it's valid: it appears to be 0 bytes
[09:00] <Leonard2> I have downloaded the following drivers PrintSettingUtility, Smartpanel and UnifiedLinuxDriver from Samsung.  These are for my printer/scanner CLX-3185.  I don't know how to install these drivers under Ubuntu 12.10.  What do I do?
[09:01] <Chartax> and has the name "DPO_RT5572_LinuxSTA_<IP_ADDRESS>_20121"
[09:01] <Stanley00> Chartax: can you run this command and pastebin the output "lspci -kv"
[09:01] <Stanley00> !paste | Chartax
[09:03] <Chartax> Stanley00, if I can't get on the wi-fi, that could be tough, let me see if I can work something out.
[09:04] <jenenliu> hi, guys, my firefox cost too much cpu when it is working on my ubuntu laptop, someone help? thanks.
[09:04] <Stanley00> Chartax: I think the file you downloaded must have some README or INSTALL file. you can look at that. Actually, I don't know how to deal with this ralink
[09:05] <Chartax> Alright, on my cellphone now, please excuse any awful typos
[09:05] <brontosaurusrex> jenenliu: use some other browser? there is gazzilion of them to try
[09:06] <jenenliu> brontosaurusrex: it is the same result when I use chromium
[09:06] <OerHeks> jenenliu, how much ram does your laptop have ?
[09:06] <brontosaurusrex> jenenliu: then it may not be browser related
[09:07] <jenenliu> OerHeks: 200G at least
[09:07] <brontosaurusrex> wow
[09:07] <brontosaurusrex> and i thought my 32G is cool
[09:07] <OerHeks> ram=system memory
[09:08] <jenenliu> OerHeks: I am sorry, 21G
[09:11] <Leonard2> [Quit]
[09:18] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: Your laptop does not have 21 GiB of RAM.
[09:19] <topshare> Eric
[09:20] <Evil_Eric> yes
[09:22] <kanyl> Does smooth scrolling work for macbooks running ubuntu?
[09:23] <brophat> is yahoo.com not rendering right in chrome browser?
[09:23] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: really?
[09:23] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: it is 21
[09:24] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: I guess it's possible, but it's highly unlikely that you have 21 GiB of RAM in a laptop.
[09:24] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: What is the output of "free -m"?
[09:25] <jenenliu>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:25] <jenenliu> Mem:          1905       1332        572          0         28        870
[09:25] <jenenliu> -/+ buffers/cache:        433       1471
[09:25] <jenenliu> Swap:         3767          0       3767
[09:25] <eatpoosay> hi
[09:25] <eatpoosay> ubuntu fags, use debian instead
[09:27] <sica> HI, I have an Ubuntu 12.04, on which I try to build the Android 4.0.4 source code. The issue is that when I run the make command, after 3 hours or building I get the error
[09:27] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:27] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:27] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:27] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:27] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:27] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <sica> if i run the ldd java command
[09:28] <sica> i get
[09:28] <sica> linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffe99dd000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f28880d0000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libjli.so => not found
[09:28] <sica> 	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f2887ecb000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f2887b0c000)
[09:28] <sica> 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f2888307000)
[09:28] <brophat> is yahoo.com broken in chrome for past couple days?
[09:28] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <jmfurlott> Trying to install ubuntu to an iMac….but after I boot from the disc the screen goes black.   Any ideas?
[09:29] <OerHeks> sica plese don't paste like that, use paste.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <sica> ok, sorry
[09:29] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: nomodeset?
[09:30] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, if you talking about a parameter to set when the cd boots, I can't the screen goes black just after it turns purple from initialing loading the cd
[09:30] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: That's 2 GiB, not 21.
[09:30] <sica> can anyone help me with libjli.so not found problem?
[09:30] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: do you even get the boot selector screen up?
[09:30] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, nope it goes black too quickly
[09:31] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: I am sorry, so do you know why my firefox costs so many cpu, thanks
[09:31] <OerHeks> sica plese use paste.ubuntu.com so we can read the problem
[09:31] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: No, I don't.
[09:31] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, oh wait i got the screen finally
[09:31] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: anyway, thanks
[09:31] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: at the boot selector screen it should just be in VESA mode
[09:32] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: You're welcome. Wish I could have been of more help.
[09:32] <sica> target Java: Browser (out/target/common/obj/APPS/Browser_intermediates/classes)
[09:32] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:32] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:32] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:32] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, weird this is the first time i have gotten it
[09:32] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: you're going to need to start asing the channel now, I'm off to drill holes in lorries
[09:32] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, have fun (?) thanks man
[09:33] <OerHeks> sica, if you refuse to use paste.ubuntu.com i can't help you, good luck.
[09:33] <sica> target Java: Browser (out/target/common/obj/APPS/Browser_intermediates/classes)
[09:33] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:33] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:33] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:33] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:33] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:33] <sica> but I am using it
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> sica  open this page and paste there http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:34] <sica> yes, afterwards I click the Paste! button
[09:34] <sica> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359923/
[09:35] <NeilB4Zod> What are the differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[09:35] <sica> sorry, I didn't slept too well last kinght
[09:37] <somsip> NeilB4Zod: this might help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9459/differences-between-debian-and-ubuntu
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> NeilB4Zod  there are plenty site about it, here's one http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3890111/Debian-vs-Ubuntu-Contrasting-Philosophies.htm
[09:38] <Jordan_U> sica: If you flood the channel again I will have to remove you. Please only supply pastebin links for anything more than one line.
[09:38] <sica> yes, I get it now, I wasn't familiar with this
[09:39] <sica> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359923/ <- here is my problem
[09:40] <almoxarife> sica: you are missing libjli.so
[09:41] <sica> I get that