[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108720 in metacity (main) "fiesty fawn - gnome panels not appearing from desk to desk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108720
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108721 in cdrkit (main) "[apport]  genisoimage crashed with signal 25 in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108721
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108722 in balsa (universe) "Crash when attempting to sign a message using a revoked GPG/PGP key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108722
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108723 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu for PS3 freezes during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108723
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108724 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108724
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108725 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu password stars" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108725
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108726 in file-roller (main) "Using "extract here" creates wrong directory name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108726
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #108727 in evolution (main) "composer/e-msg-composer.h missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108727
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108728 in rdesktop (main) "rdesktop just crashed, was not using at the time." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108728
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108729 in bluez-btsco (universe) "btsco loads libbluetooth1 but package requires libbluetooth2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108729
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108730 in Ubuntu "Installation problem on a notebook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108730
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108731 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  Installer is very slow when changing pages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108731
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108732 in feisty-session-splashes (main) "can't disable splash screen on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108732
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108733 in compiz (main) "flash losing clicks with desktop effects enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108733
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108735 in nautilus "desktop lacks "Display properties" or "Screensaver - Power" options on right-click context menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108735
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108736 in firefox (main) "Address box dies suddenly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108736
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108737 in nis (main) "[apport]  ypbind crashed with SIGSEGV in test_bindings_once()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108737
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108738 in twiki (universe) "[apport]  package twiki failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108738
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108739 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.04 notebook HP nx9420 does not work video card X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108739
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108740 in mydms (universe) "[apport]  package mydms failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108740
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108741 in r-cran-psy (universe) "[apport]  package r-cran-psy failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108741
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108742 in acidrip (multiverse) "no icon in kde menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108742
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108743 in Ubuntu ""Desktops Effects" crapped up my computer that has a nVidia GeForce2 Go graphics card, upon reboot." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108743
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108744 in kdepim (main) "kontact new email notification" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108744
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108745 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu should have better user management" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108745
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108746 in efax-gtk (universe) "no icon in kde menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108746
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108747 in update-manager (main) "the 3d-cube-desktop get not right service ..., its new, its ok :-)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108747
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108748 in firefox (main) "Firefox craches when I try to run Antidote with right-clic on the selected text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108748
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108749 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108749
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108750 in Ubuntu "wireless card does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108750
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108752 in gpar2 (universe) "no icon in kde menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108752
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108751 in ktorrent (main) "unexpected program crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108751
[01:46] <owh> Hi all.
[01:47] <owh> How do I remove a remote bug tracker? During triage, someone allocated a bug to an incorrect package, now I need to remove that.
[01:47] <Kmos> owh: click on it, and change to "Rejected"
[01:48] <owh> Kmos: There is no "rejected" in a remote upstream.
[01:48] <owh> Bug #52778, has no relation to samba. I need to remove the reference to samba (upstream).
[01:48] <ubotu> Malone bug 52778 in Ubuntu "Some folders on fat32 filesystem not writable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52778
[01:49] <owh> I do NOT want to close the bug itself!
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108753 in slab (universe) "main-menu d-bus error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108753
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108754 in ssmtp (universe) "ssmtp installation error on upgrade edgy -> feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108754
[01:53] <Kmos> owh: done
[01:53] <owh> Kmos: How did you do that?
[01:54] <Kmos> change to none remote bug trackers
[01:54] <Kmos> and after rejected it
[01:54] <owh> Kmos: So, you set it to manual updating, then you could change the status?
[01:54] <Kmos> yep
[01:55] <owh> Ah
[01:55] <owh> Tah
[01:55] <ogra> did you have a bug in the samba bugtracker it was linked to ?
[01:55] <owh> Kmos: I suppose I cannot actually delete the reference altogether?
[01:55] <Kmos> no
[01:55] <owh> ogra: It was created and then closed by the person who did the incorrect triage.
[01:56] <ogra> hmm, and the remote watch didnt automatically pick that up for the LP bug ? thats strange
[01:56] <owh> ogra: It set the status to fixed.
[01:56] <ogra> you shouldnt have to care about LP as upstream if you close the upstream bug
[01:57] <ogra> as long as the automated linker works at least
[01:57] <owh> ogra: I was trying to remove the whole reference to samba altogether. It's confusing the reporters and people are looking at the bug and blaming samba when it appears to be a kernel problem.
[01:57] <ogra> well, the "Rejected" status should be pretty clear
[01:58] <owh> ogra: Yes, but that was only the case after Kmos fixed it. I could not figure out how to get it to that point. Before it was saying "fix released".
[01:59] <ogra> indeed, since it was set to fixed upstream
[01:59] <ogra> if you had rejected it in the upstream tracker it would have picked that up
[01:59] <owh> ogra: Yes, but that then completely confused all the reporters to the point where they started commenting on it.
[01:59] <ogra> (or whoever set it to fixed there)
[02:00] <owh> ogra: I had nothing to do with the upstream, the triager was a little too quick from the hip.
[02:00] <ogra> yeah, i see that ...
[02:00] <owh> ogra: We had a little chat.
[02:00] <ogra> heh, good
[02:02] <owh> There was genuine helpfullness in their triaging, They were looking at really old bugs that were unallocated. I hadn't allocated it because I didn't know yet where to allocate it. Ironically, the bug exists, but I'm getting little response from the reporters.
[02:02] <owh> I'm loathe to just chalk it up as linux-kernel, but that might be what eventually happens.
[02:02] <owh> At this time I have no actual version information from any of the reporters, hence my request for same :)
[02:03] <ogra> yup, understood :)
[02:04] <owh> All good :)
[02:04] <ogra> :)
[02:17] <owh> Ok folks. Bug #49217 and Bug #65808 are now marked as duplicates. At the moment they're allocated to dosfstools and I am assigned to them. I suspect however that the process that is mounting the volume isn't including the iocharset=big5 option to the mount process. My question is this: Is this a gnome-volume-manager bug, or an sys-init-{mumble} bug, or an installer bug?
[02:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 49217 in dosfstools "Problem in FSCK checking Chinese filename (Big5)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49217
[02:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 65808 in dosfstools "file auto rename -> FSCK0000.REN (dup-of: 49217)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65808
[02:18] <owh> Alternatively, is this still a dosfstools bug, where it doesn't yet recognise chinese characters, which was my initial suspicion.
[02:18] <owh> (And why I allocated it to me :)
[02:20] <owh> Comments? Suggestions? Opinions? Admonishments?
[02:23] <owh> Anyone?
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108755 in Ubuntu "First pressed key doesnt work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108755
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108756 in slab (universe) "gnome-main-menu should use "Comment" fields from .desktop files instead of "GenericName"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108756
[02:29] <owh> I will pose another question. Why is it that whenever I mention dosfstools, a silence descends? Is there some rule that says we shouldn't talk about FAT32 file systems? The code was written in 1993 and it gets used every day by millions of users. There appears to be no active maintainer and it was written in the days when hard drives were tiny and files were small. It's used to connect to external drives, cameras, and memory cards. It appears to have several
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108757 in Ubuntu "Confusion from partitioning during Feisty install." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108757
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108758 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108758
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108759 in hal (main) "no audio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108759
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108760 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn 7.04: No mp3 support if I install the players and codecs with Synaptic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108760
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108761 in Ubuntu "Couldn't open any new programs or log out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108761
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108762 in dvdauthor (universe) "[apport]  dvdauthor crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108762
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108764 in Ubuntu "Can't switch to text terminals" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108764
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108765 in rhythmbox (main) "Translator credit not shown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108765
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108766 in Ubuntu "Totem only plays left channel for audio from HD trailers at Apple" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108766
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108767 in scorched3d (universe) "[apport]  scorched3d crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108767
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108763 in barcode (universe) "manpage formatted incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108763
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108768 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash when I've open del.icio.us TAG notification and I try close a terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108768
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108769 in totem (main) "gstream video decoder only plays audio, no video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108769
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108770 in wifi-radar (universe) "[apport]  wifi-radar crashed with AttributeError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108770
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108771 in Ubuntu "Totem stops buffering and won't play a movie stream if the initial cache fill fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108771
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108772 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-hwprobe.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108772
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108773 in Ubuntu "kfontinst crashes during surfing with Opera 9.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108773
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #108774 in mc (universe) "midnight commander, cant use shift + arrows to select text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108774
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108775 in Ubuntu "Problems with screen resolution after installing proprietary nVIDIA drivers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108775
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108776 in Ubuntu "No jigdo files for "desktop" CDs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108776
[03:36] <zakame> hmm konversation has a sunday-always-topic bug?
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108778 in packagesearch (universe) "debian package viewer crashed on reboot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108778
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108777 in Ubuntu "Sound broken on Toshiba A105-S101" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108777
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108779 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108779
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108780 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox doesn't start in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108780
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108781 in mplayer (multiverse) "[apport]  mencoder crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108781
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108782 in apt (main) "apt-get dist-upgrade should present all question at the very beginning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108782
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108783 in Ubuntu "NetworkManager+VPN+MTU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108783
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108784 in totem (main) "totem "could not read from resource" on Real Audio stream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108784
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108785 in mplayer (multiverse) "gmplayer says 'gnome_screensaver_control()'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108785
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108786 in Ubuntu "Visual Glitch on the screen with a Dell inspiron 8600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108786
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108788 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Wyneken" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108788
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108789 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108789
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108790 in update-manager (main) "update manager crashed while upgrading perl-modules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108790
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108791 in realplayer (multiverse) "realplayer10 install does not automatically setup Firefox .ram handling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108791
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108792 in gmail-notify (universe) "Gmail-Notify icon dissapears from notification tray" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108792
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108793 in redhat-cluster-suite (main) "FTBFS: hppa compile errors" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108793
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108794 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108794
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108795 in Ubuntu "Mute Hotkey works but does not mute the sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108795
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108796 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl and adept conflict" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108796
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108797 in quodlibet (universe) "[apport]  package quodlibet failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108797
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108798 in Ubuntu "Microphone not working after upgrade from edgy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108798
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108799 in Ubuntu "No Window Manager Selected After Upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108799
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108800 in Ubuntu "No Cancel Option during Distribution Upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108800
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108801 in Ubuntu "ubuntu should package lazarus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108801
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108802 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager doesn't show avalaible wifi AP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108802
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108803 in Ubuntu "Impossible d'installer  /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.2-0ubuntu11_i386.deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108803
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108804 in Ubuntu "Xubuntu 7.04 installation does not detect existing partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108804
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108805 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade Tool Crashed - upgrade to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108805
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108806 in gnome-terminal (main) "All apps open in upper left corner of screen, no minimize button, can't reposition window." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108806
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108807 in ndiswrapper (main) "ndiswrapper driver not killed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108807
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108808 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108808
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108809 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV in Arts::Dispatcher::terminate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108809
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108810 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[apport]  package linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108810
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108812 in gnome-panel (main) "Possible memory leak? gome-panel is a memory hog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108812
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108811 in Ubuntu "7.04 Unable to play rmvb files correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108811
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108813 in vlc (universe) "Vlc crashed on shutting system down" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108813
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108814 in serpentine (main) "Crash when dragging a folder of WAV files onto Audio Serpentine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108814
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108815 in radioclk (universe) "[apport]  package radioclk failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108815
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108817 in sundials (universe) "libsundials-serial-dev is missing a crucial header file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108817
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108819 in beryl-manager (universe) "adept reports beryl-manager crash on system boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108819
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108818 in xchat-gnome (main) "Join/leave messages make chatrooms with many members almost unreadable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108818
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108822 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kfontinst crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Get_PS_Font_Info()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108822
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108823 in vim (main) "vim doesn't recognize UUID labels in fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108823
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108824 in Ubuntu "intel ich6 sound card bad management on dell xps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108824
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108825 in Ubuntu "Feisty not proper shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108825
[10:03] <martijn> anyone here?
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108827 in listen (universe) "[apport]  package listen failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108827
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108828 in Ubuntu "Microphone Not Working In Feisty 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108828
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108829 in Ubuntu "XServer crash while using firefox (Ubuntu 7.04)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108829
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108830 in wpasupplicant (main) "[apport]  wpa_supplicant crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 98895)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108830
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108831 in update-manager (main) "Update applet failed - 6.10 update to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108831
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108832 in gs-esp (main) "[apport]  gs-esp crashed with SIGSEGV in gx_image_end()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108832
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108833 in vim (main) "Vim GUI writes warnings to terminal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108833
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108834 in gnome-art (universe) "art manager closes unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108834
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108835 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108835
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108837 in dpkg (main) "dpkg fails too mysteriously when out of disc space" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108837
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108838 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108838
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108839 in beryl-core (universe) "Kde Logout while surfing with Swiftfox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108839
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108840 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "kernel drops network connection with " Resetting the Tx ring pointer"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108840
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108841 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108841
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108843 in Ubuntu "SIS 6326 (and/or Monitor): low-res configuration in Kubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108843
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108844 in Ubuntu "Reiser4 is still not in Ubuntu." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108844
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108845 in xdrawchem (universe) "[apport]  xdrawchem crashed with SIGSEGV in QGVector::at()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108845
[10:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108846 in synaptic (main) "Upgrade from Desktop 6.10 to 7.04 crashes with, as yet, no solution other than a fresh install." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108846
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108847 in gspca (universe) "Weird picture with Microdia 0c45:6007 webcam" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108847
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108848 in Ubuntu "audio is not working correctly - all I am getting when I play any sound is feedback - Intel82801G - was working fine under Edgy (6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108848
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108850 in Ubuntu "My wlan usb-adapter causes a gnome crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108850
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108851 in wpasupplicant (main) "wpa_suppliciant error in log" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108851
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108852 in wbxml2 (universe) "New Upstream Release .9.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108852
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108853 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed during upgrade to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108853
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108854 in Ubuntu "External USB hard-drive doesn't power off during suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108854
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108855 in bitlbee (universe) "bitlbee fails to start in feisty (netkit-inetd depend gone awol)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108855
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108856 in trackballs (universe) "[apport]  trackballs crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108856
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108857 in camorama (universe) "Camorama has a shade of blue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108857
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108858 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108858
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108859 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "cdrom speed only 550kb/s" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108859
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108860 in Ubuntu "System freezes about every 15min with "ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108860
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108862 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kfontinst crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Get_Postscript_Name()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108862
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108864 in ubiquity (main) "Install Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108864
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108866 in rdiff-backup (main) "[apport]  rdiff-backup crashed with OSError in chmod()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108866
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108865 in xen-source-2.6.16 (universe) "64bit -fno-stack-protector @Config.mk" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108865
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108867 in gnome-sudoku (universe) "Gnome Sudoku crashes on Close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108867
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108868 in Ubuntu "upgrade crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108868
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108869 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade tool crashed edgy/feisty, adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108869
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108870 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "[Feisty regression]  install two or more debian files with right click on them and install doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108870
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108871 in Ubuntu "i get a lot of errors when a execute dmesg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108871
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108872 in seahorse (universe) "ask for confirmation when changing passphrase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108872
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108873 in kde4base (universe) "[apport]  konsole crashed with SIGSEGV in QValueListPrivate<QString>::QValueListPrivate()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108873
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108874 in Ubuntu "Add additional FUSE filesystems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108874
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108875 in Ubuntu "CH produts do not initialize" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108875
[01:09] <pochu> hey coNP!
[01:10] <coNP> heya pochu
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108876 in Ubuntu "Error during software install and Ubuntu update install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108876
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108877 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108877
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108878 in rhythmbox (main) "radio del vicinato" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108878
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108879 in update-manager (main) "broken system upgrade from egdy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108879
[01:36] <herman_> on which package do you have to file bugs regarding to the "desktop effects" features in feisty
[01:36] <herman_> ?
[01:36] <herman_> compiz? beryl?
[01:37] <herman_> i'm missing my window bars when i enable it
[01:37] <pochu> herman_: compiz or desktop-effects, depends
[01:37] <pochu> herman_: that's compiz, but it's already reported
[01:37] <pochu> let me find it
[01:37] <pochu> herman_: which video driver?
[01:37] <herman_> i couldn't find it because i have no idea what you call it, except window bar
[01:37] <herman_> nvidia
[01:38] <pochu> herman_: have you enabled it with the restricted manager?
[01:38] <pochu> system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[01:38] <herman_> yeah, after my upgrade to feisty it said it was enabled, and the rest works just the window bars are missing
[01:39] <herman_> yes it says "in use"
[01:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108880 in mutt (main) "just rebooted after upgrading from ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108880
[01:41] <elliotjhug> Hi all, as a bugsquad member I am wondering what is happening to bug #48077, which has been hanging around since dapper and is still here in feisty, it can ruin an xserver configuration for nvidia cards. It'd be great to know if there is actually anyone working. Or indeed if its been set to be affecting the correct package (looks wrong to me). Its not assigned to anyone, but I'm surprised it hasn't been taken any further. Any ideas?
[01:42] <ubotu> Malone bug 48077 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 "Running nvidia-glx-config enable breaks X." [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48077
[01:43] <pochu> herman_: do you mean the title bars?
[01:44] <herman_> i guess yeah, the one with the program name and the X to close a program
[01:45] <Kmos> elliotjhug: ask on #ubuntu-devel tomorrow
[01:45] <Hobbsee> if it's nto marked as in progress, i'd say no one is looking at it
[01:45] <Kmos> i assign it to ubuntu kernel team
[01:45] <Kmos> let's see if someone check it
[01:45] <pochu> #ubuntu-kernel seems a better place to ask
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108882 in hylafax (universe) "[apport]  package hylafax-client failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108882
[01:46] <elliotjhug> Thanks all
[01:46] <pochu> herman_: but is the entire title bar disappeared, or just the title name?
[01:46] <herman_> entire bar is gone
[01:47] <herman_> doesn't matter if its maximized or not
[01:49] <pochu> herman_: then you seem to have bug 80778
[01:49] <ubotu> Malone bug 80778 in compiz "compiz does not show window boards or the cube" [Low,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80778
[01:49] <pochu> herman_: which is not a bug ;)
[01:49] <pochu> herman_: check your gconf keys, you should have "decoration" in the plugins key
[01:49] <pochu> bbl
[01:49] <herman_> i'll check
[01:51] <pochu> elliotjhug: maybe you should add "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17" and -2.6.20 to the bug report
[01:51] <pochu> since it also seems to happen with Edgy and Feisty
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108883 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108883
[01:52] <elliotjhug> pochu: Thanks, I'll do that
[01:53] <herman_> pochu: yeah i got decoration in that key
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108884 in openoffice.org (main) "[apport]  unopkg.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in uno_threadpool_enter()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108884
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108885 in openoffice.org-voikko (main) "[apport]  package openoffice.org-voikko failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108885
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108886 in language-support-fi (main) "[apport]  package language-support-fi failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108886
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108887 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108887
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108888 in initramfs-tools (main) "Still calls /sbin/update-grub rather then /usr/sbin/update-grub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108888
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108889 in gnome-hearts (universe) "[apport]  gnome-hearts crashed with SIGSEGV in cards_image_from_file()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108889
[02:15] <pochu> herman_: I think that's a problem in your xorg.conf, which will be solved if you activate the nvidia driver with restricted-manager
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108891 in update-manager (main) "7.04 cant find the partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108891
[02:16] <herman_> pochu: its already on right. restricted-manager says its in use and all the other fancy stuff works (quite quickly too)
[02:17] <herman_> but i can turn it off and turn it on again if you think that might work
[02:17] <pochu> herman_: the fact that restricted-manager says it's in use doesn't mean it has been activate by it ;)
[02:17] <herman_> maybe its because i upgraded instead of a fresh install
[02:17] <herman_> ok :)
[02:17] <pochu> herman_: do you have Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" in the Screen section in your xorg.conf ?
[02:18] <herman_> nope
[02:19] <pochu> herman_: I think you need it. Add it, or use the restricted-manager
[02:19] <herman_> ok
[02:19] <herman_> let me try
[02:19] <herman_> i'll let you know
[02:19] <pochu> herman_: and let me know if it works ;)
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #108892 in kdebase (main) "customized konqueror menus get changed back to kubuntu default version on each konqueor update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108892
[02:24] <herman_> pochu: yay that fixed it
[02:24] <herman_> i just removed nvidia and put it back with the restricted manager and some extra stuff was added
[02:25] <herman_> and everything works now
[02:25] <herman_> thanks for you help :)
[02:25] <herman_> i'll leave a comment at the bug too
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108893 in Ubuntu "KDE transparency effects linger after disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108893
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108895 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108895
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108896 in Ubuntu ""net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1" doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108896
[02:47] <Nafallo> it does.
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108897 in Ubuntu "wireless acpi toggle state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108897
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108898 in Ubuntu "Openoffice Dictionary Wizard Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108898
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #108899 in br.ispell (main) "wrong dictionary PT_BR (is the same PT_PT)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108899
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108900 in pgadmin3 (universe) "feisty postgres 8.2 leaving other packages behind" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108900
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108901 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with signal 7 in eventLoop()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108901
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108903 in perl (main) "[apport]  perl crashed with SIGSEGV in rrd_test_error()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108903
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108904 in openoffice.org (main) "OOo compresses .doc files less than MS Office" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108904
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108905 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer.real crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108905
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108906 in Ubuntu "PCI PATA card - hde drive not found by Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108906
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108907 in aircrack-ng (universe) "Merge with 0.7-3 from debian unstable (#SA24880)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108907
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108908 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SystemError in setGamma()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108908
[03:16] <pochu> herman_: cool :)
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108902 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Unmounting external hd doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108902
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108911 in gnome-panel (main) "Problem with deskbar (no correctly initialized)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108911
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108909 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  Can not run file.jar with sun java jre6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108909
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108910 in update-manager (main) "upgrade error from edgy server to feisty server becasue of at" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108910
[03:26] <kbrooks> boo
[03:27] <kbrooks> i'd like to do xfce bugs
[03:27] <kbrooks> any idea?
[03:30] <kbrooks> jrib, poke
[03:30] <jrib> kbrooks: ow
[03:30] <kbrooks> jrib, how do i jump into doing some xfce bugs? :-)
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108912 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "gnome-system-monitor reports wrong upload/download speed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108912
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108913 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108913
[03:32] <pochu> jrib: you can go to a xfce package and triage the bugs
[03:32] <pochu> what are you interested in?
[03:32] <jrib> kbrooks: ^
[03:32] <pochu> hmm, yeah
[03:32] <pochu> jrib: sorry :)
[03:32] <kbrooks> pochu, um, practically anything. i don't know what :-)
[03:33] <pochu> hehe
[03:35] <pochu> kbrooks: this can be a start: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=xfce
[03:35] <pochu> and you can join #xubuntu-devel and they will help you :)
[03:38] <kbrooks> all right
[03:38] <kbrooks> thx
[03:38] <pochu> yw :)
[03:40] <pochu> and if you want to join the bug triage forces, we have the BugSquad! :)
[03:40] <pochu> !triage
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about triage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <pochu> !bugsquad
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugsquad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <pochu> !bug squad
[03:40] <pochu> !bugs
[03:40] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:40] <pochu> :/
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108914 in update-manager (main) "Edgy upgrade to Feisty: No second chance to update with the Update-manager if there is not enough space disk." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108914
[03:41] <pochu> https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad <-- kbrooks
[03:41] <Arby> pochu: it's in the topic :)
[03:42] <Arby> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[03:42] <Arby> oops sorry, wrong page
[03:42] <kbrooks> pochu, rechecking: bug #96142,  what do i do if i successfuly duplicate that
[03:42] <ubotu> Malone bug 96142 in xchat "X-Chat does not fully support irc: URI scheme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96142
[03:43] <kbrooks> (i have, BTW)
[03:44] <Arby> kbrooks: leave a comment describing how you repeated it
[03:44] <kbrooks> well, now see bug 96142
[03:44] <ubotu> Malone bug 96142 in xchat "X-Chat does not fully support irc: URI scheme" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96142
[03:44] <Arby> and (I think) change it's status to confirmed
[03:45] <Arby> yep that's the idea
[03:45] <kbrooks> I don't think 96142 can be fixed sanely at all
[03:45] <kbrooks> (tradeoffs anyone?)
[03:46] <Arby> if xchat makes logs anywhere then copies of those would probably help
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108915 in listen (universe) "Listen does not save settings when logging out while it's running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108915
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #108916 in Ubuntu "DNS Addresses not retained in System Settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108916
[03:46] <Arby> but I've never used xchat
[03:48] <kbrooks> Arby, pls pm me, in 5 seconds ...
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108917 in update-manager (main) "could not install 'python-imaging'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108917
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108918 in Ubuntu "Wrong permissions on ~/.local" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108918
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #108919 in ubiquity (main) "upgrade tool crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108919
[03:52] <ryanakca> bug 108630 is a low priority bug, right? or should I have set it to medium?
[03:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 108630 in kdebase "kicker has invalid dependencies" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108630
[03:52] <pochu> !info kicker
[03:52] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 (feisty), package size 2026 kB, installed size 5936 kB
[03:52] <kbrooks> bug #91044 i think bug reporter is confused and mixed up server names.
[03:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 91044 in xchat "XChat cannot join Freenode upon program open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91044
[03:53] <kbrooks> he actually must have typed /server irc.freenode.org
[03:53] <kbrooks> and that must have timed out
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108920 in desktop-effects (main) "custom hotkeys disabled when desktop effects are enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108920
[03:55] <kbrooks> does anyone agree?
[03:56] <kbrooks> bug #91044 i think bug reporter is confused and mixed up server names. he actually must have typed /server irc.freenode.org and that must have timed out.
[03:56] <ubotu> Malone bug 91044 in xchat "XChat cannot join Freenode upon program open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91044
[03:56] <Arby> kbrooks: ask the reporter to confirm exactly what they clicked/typed and where.
[03:57] <Arby> make sure you it's clear what they did
[03:57] <Arby> it could be user error but you can't be sure from that
[03:58] <Arby> ryanakca: I agree it's low priority
[03:58] <Arby> (I commented on it)
[03:58] <ryanakca> kk
[03:58] <Arby> but I've no idea if those deps are actually wrong
[03:58] <Arby> I suspect not
[03:58] <Arby> but we need a kde guru for that
[03:59] <ryanakca> I don't see how kcontrol and kicker are intertwined, other than sharing libraries...
[03:59] <Arby> I've no idea, I just did some poking to see what the deps actually were
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #108925 in update-manager (main) "7.04 upgrade failed: installArchives() failed at flashplugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108925
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108922 in update-manager (main) "Update tool crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108922
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108923 in Ubuntu "Display not waking up after blanked screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108923
[04:07] <ubotu> New bug: #108924 in eclipse (universe) "OutOfMemoryError" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108924
[04:10] <umarmung> hmm, there are a lot of bugs about metacity<->compiz shortcuts. Shouldn't they all be marked as dupes?
[04:10] <umarmung> e.g. 108920, 103152, 105561 and 76965
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108926 in kdelibs (main) "kdeinit ended unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108926
[04:13] <pochu> bug 108920
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 108920 in desktop-effects "custom hotkeys disabled when desktop effects are enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108920
[04:13] <pochu> bug 103152, bug 105561 bug 76965
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 103152 in compiz "Viewports/Cube - Doesn't obey Workspace Keyboard Shortcuts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103152
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 105561 in compiz "compiz doesn't handle all keyboard shortcuts" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105561
[04:13] <ubotu> Malone bug 76965 in compiz "Metacity Keyboard Shortcuts manually defined in gconf (not capplet) do not work with Compiz" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76965
[04:14] <pochu> umarmung: I think 103152 isn't the same, but the others seems to be dups, yeah
[04:14] <umarmung> so mark them as dupes of 76965?
[04:15] <Arby> bug 108887, bug 108885 and bug 108886 are all the same user with the same failed upgrade
[04:15] <ubotu> Malone bug 108887 in update-manager "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108887
[04:15] <ubotu> Malone bug 108885 in openoffice.org-voikko "[apport]  package openoffice.org-voikko failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108885
[04:15] <ubotu> Malone bug 108886 in language-support-fi "[apport]  package language-support-fi failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108886
[04:15] <Arby> should I reject 2 and just work on the third?
[04:15] <pochu> Arby: no, mark them as dups
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108927 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108927
[04:16] <Arby> pochu: OK thanks
[04:16] <pochu> mark as dups of that which have more info
[04:16] <pochu> or a patch, or something :)
[04:16] <pochu> and if all of theme are the same, then use the oldest ;)
[04:16] <pochu> Arby: you're always welcome :)
[04:16] <umarmung> 76965 looks best
[04:18] <Arby> pochu: what status do I give them, we have logs, does that make them confirmed?
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108928 in Ubuntu "Scrambled Keys in feisty ubuntu desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108928
[04:24] <pochu> Arby: I think so
[04:25] <pochu> let me see
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108929 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes *very* often" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108929
[04:27] <pochu> Arby: bug 76965 is already confirmed, what are you talking about?
[04:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 76965 in compiz "Metacity Keyboard Shortcuts manually defined in gconf (not capplet) do not work with Compiz" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76965
[04:27] <Arby> pochu: I'm talking about  bug 108887 and friends
[04:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 108887 in update-manager "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108887
[04:28] <pochu> oh, hehe :)
[04:28] <Arby> crossed conversations :)
[04:28] <pochu> Arby: do the logs tell you they're dups?
[04:28] <Arby> they're the same event
[04:28] <pochu> ok
[04:28] <Arby> user got confused and just kept hitting apport
[04:29] <Arby> so it got reported 3 times
[04:29] <pochu> hehe
[04:29] <Arby> 108887 is the primary report
[04:30] <Arby> 108885 and 108886 both appear there in main.log
[04:30] <pochu> Arby: I don't know whether you should confirm it, since there is no other duplicate (those dups are by the same user) and I can't confirm it, so change it to unconfirmed
[04:30] <Arby> OK
[04:31] <pochu> Arby: and ask Michael in a comment what he thinks
[04:31] <pochu> he's the update-manager expert
[04:31] <Arby> he's going to have fun on MOnday then :)
[04:31] <Arby> I've been feilding these all weekend
[04:32] <pochu> :)
[04:33] <pochu> I'm off now, see you!
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108933 in Ubuntu "no menu entry for bzflag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108933
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #108934 in bzflag (universe) "no menu entry for bzflag" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108934
[04:41] <Pierre> hi
[04:41] <Pierre> which package contains gnu/stubs.h?
[04:42] <Pierre> it looks like there is a build mistake for amd64, __WORDSIZE is defined as 32bits (or __x86_64__ is not defined)
[04:42] <Pierre> (feisty)
[04:43] <mr_pouit> libc6-dev: usr/include/gnu/stubs.h
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108935 in partman-lvm (main) "Installer freezes after creating a new LV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108935
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108936 in Ubuntu "random resets during install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108936
[04:46] <Pierre> mr_pouit, thx
[04:47] <erik> hi all :)
[04:48] <erik> i think i found a mayor bug in the new NetworkManager applet in ubuntu 7.04
[04:48] <erik> what now
[04:48] <erik> ?
[04:50] <rulus> erik: report it in launchpad, but check first to see if it's already reported or not
[04:50] <mr_pouit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager
[04:51] <Pierre> anyone with an amd64 to confirm this problem? no trace of __X86_64 and __WORDSIZE is then defined as 32bit
[04:52] <erik> im not sure tough if its the network manager, or the driver for my wLan
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108938 in Ubuntu "python crashes while doing nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108938
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108939 in debian-installer (main) "Can't download with DAP (Download Accelerator Plus)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108939
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108940 in dictclient (main) "[apport]  package python-dictclient failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108940
[04:57] <erik> its not in launchpad....
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108942 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108942
[05:01] <Mithrandir> Pierre: hm?  What is the problem?
[05:01] <Pierre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/108946
[05:01] <ubotu> Malone bug 108946 in glibc "__x86_64__ not set (stubs.h and __WORDSIZE wrong) on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[05:01] <erik> woops my bug is already there.... (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/97499)
[05:01] <ubotu> Malone bug 97499 in network-manager "[Feisty]  System crash when NetworkManager tries to activate Wifi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[05:01] <Pierre> Mithrandir, worked fine before (earlier version), not sure what's wrong
[05:02] <erik> is there anything i could do now? confirm it or anything?
[05:03] <Arby> erik: yes leave a comment saying you can confirm the bug
[05:03] <erik> ok
[05:03] <erik> will do that
[05:03] <kbrooks> hey bugs
[05:04] <erik> and after that just wait untill i get an email or so?
[05:04] <Mithrandir> Pierre: works fine for me.
[05:04] <Arby> erik: and set it's status to confirmed
[05:04] <Mithrandir> #include <stdio.h>
[05:04] <Mithrandir> int main(int argc, char **argv)  {
[05:04] <Mithrandir> #ifdef __x86_64__ printf("__x86_64__ set\n");
[05:04] <Mithrandir> #endif return 0;
[05:04] <Mithrandir> }
[05:04] <Pierre> weird
[05:04] <Mithrandir> (at least with proper line breaks)
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108943 in Ubuntu "long boot delay, similar to bug #106864" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108943
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108944 in app-install-data-commercial (main) "error when setting up the package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108944
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108945 in Ubuntu "Gnome restart when I press key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108945
[05:07] <Pierre> Mithrandir, can you try http://phpfi.com/228906 too?
[05:08] <Pierre> damned, it fails only on this box, something must be broken.
[05:08] <Mithrandir> yeah, works fine for me.
[05:09] <kbrooks> bug 108945: i put into needs info
[05:09] <ubotu> Malone bug 108945 in Ubuntu "Gnome restart when I press key" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108945
[05:09] <Pierre> ok, you can bogus my report I think. I'm reinstalling this one
[05:10] <Pierre> sorry for the noise
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108948 in update-manager (main) "Error upgrading 6.10 x86_64 to 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108948
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108949 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108949
[05:10] <Mithrandir> Pierre: sure, rejected.
[05:10] <Pierre> thanks
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108946 in glibc (main) "__x86_64__ not set (stubs.h and __WORDSIZE wrong) on amd64" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108946
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #108947 in network-manager (main) "cannot receive ip address after resuming from hibernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108947
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #108950 in Ubuntu "audacious crashes on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108950
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #108951 in gnome-applets (main) "Gnome drawer applet delays and unresponsiveness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108951
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #108952 in gnome-applets (main) "the window of the weather applet should remember it's screen position" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108952
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #108953 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000015" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108953
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108954 in debian-installer (main) "Feisty install fails to configure console-setup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108954
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108955 in Ubuntu "No easy way to reconfigure grub" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108955
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108956 in rhythmbox (main) "Japanese charectors do not show up in song titles." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108956
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #108957 in beagle (main) "Beagle doesn't handle coma in mail folder name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108957
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108958 in kvm (universe) "kvm can not boot ubuntu CD and DVD on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108958
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108959 in Ubuntu "kiba-dock: Package request [needs-packaging] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108959
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #108960 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  Firefox crash on loading a video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108960
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108961 in wacom-tools (main) "Pen no longer works after resuming from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108961
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #108962 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108962
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108963 in scim (main) "[apport]  scim-launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in QTextCodec::fromUnicode()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108963
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108964 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge freezes at quit action" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108964
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108965 in hydrogen (universe) "[apport]  hydrogen crashed with SIGSEGV in QObject::activate_signal()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108965
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #108966 in mplayer (multiverse) "Skins for mplayer - please add more or change the default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108966
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108967 in beryl-plugins (universe) "Beryl "Put" plugin problem with maximized windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108967
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108968 in ntp (main) "Cant' start ntp after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108968
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108969 in update-manager (main) "update-manager's KDE frontend directs bug reports to ubiquity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108969
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108970 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kfontinst crashed with SIGSEGV in FT_Get_Sfnt_Name()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108970
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108971 in mdadm (main) "software raid init script problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108971
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108972 in mono (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_mono.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108972
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108973 in mplayer (multiverse) "[feisty]  multimedia big problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108973
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108974 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108974
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #108975 in openldap2.3 (main) "[apport]  package slapd failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108975
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108976 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108976
[06:21] <yuriy> autoreporting was left on for final?
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108977 in debian-installer (main) "eisty 7.04: deboostrap warning while installing base system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108977
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #108978 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade 6.10 to 7.04 fails if MailMan has shunted messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108978
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108979 in openoffice.org2-amd64 (main) "Feisty: using Tango icons in Gnome Theme cause disappearing icons in OpenOffice 2.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108979
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108980 in Ubuntu "NTFS partition read only (no write) on Feisty clean install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108980
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108982 in rhythmbox (main) "Rythmbox doesn't see daap shares" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108982
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #108983 in ubuntu-meta (main) "After upgrading, no window manager loaded at start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108983
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #108984 in Ubuntu "Input/Output error during read on /dev/i2o/hda during Initial Install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108984
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108985 in kde-systemsettings (main) "the Monitor & Display icon used in the control center is 16x16 pixels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108985
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108986 in gnome-panel (main) "I have no more the control panel in gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108986
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108987 in gnomad2 (universe) "[apport]  gnomad2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108987
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #108988 in gnomad2 (universe) "[apport]  gnomad2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108988
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #108989 in Ubuntu "wireless stops when activating 3D screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108989
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #108991 in exaile (universe) "[FEISTY] [EXAILE] Exaile cant read any cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108991
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108992 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Systemsettings crashes when clicking Desktop item with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108992
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #108993 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet asks for non-empty password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108993
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108994 in kdebase (main) "[apport]  kicker crashed with SIGSEGV in XSetCommand()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108994
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #108995 in tzdata (main) "Asks configuration questions at priority high on upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108995
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108997 in Ubuntu "Display problems in Feisty (laptop, "no screens found")" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108997
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108998 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108998
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #108999 in beryl-settings (universe) "Beryl-settings-manager crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108999
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #109000 in dansguardian (universe) "[apport]  package dansguardian failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109000
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #109001 in ajaxterm (universe) "[apport]  ajaxterm.py crashed with error in self.socket.bind(self.server_address)()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109001
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #109002 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (universe) "crash using ssl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109002
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109003 in update-manager (main) "Distribution upgrade tool crashed on upgrade to Kubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109003
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109004 in desktop-effects (main) "TV-out not working with desktop-effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109004
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109005 in firefox (main) "Firefox always claims to have finished unexpectedly, but it didn't!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109005
[08:20] <kbrooks> can anyone confirm #109005
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #109006 in Ubuntu "[need-packaging]  tapioca" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109006
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #109009 in tilp (universe) "[need-packing]  Tilp2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109009
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #109010 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice crashes when using the wizard to add dictionaries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109010
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #109011 in gaim (main) "Animate emoticones too fast" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109011
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #109012 in Ubuntu "SMC USB wireless adapter smcwusb-g does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109012
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109013 in tzdata (main) "6.10 update manager cannot download tzdata update + cannot upgrade to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109013
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109015 in firefox (main) "Changing gtk themes results in scrolled web pages returning to top" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109015
[08:49] <kbrooks> can anyone confirm bug #109005
[08:49] <ubotu> Malone bug 109005 in firefox "Firefox always claims to have finished unexpectedly, but it didn't!" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109005
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #109014 in update-manager (main) "Update from Kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109014
[08:57] <cowbud> kbrooks: ill take a look
[08:57] <kbrooks> cowbud, i gave an explanation. see last comment
[08:58] <cowbud> someone already confirmed
[08:58] <cowbud> but I just did it and I have the same reaction..
[08:58] <cowbud> so what else do you need?
[09:01] <kbrooks> i confirmed btw :-)
[09:03] <cowbud> so what else did you need? :)
[09:04] <kbrooks> cowbud, um, why not comment to at least increase the chances that the bug will be fixed?
[09:08] <cowbud> alrighty
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #109018 in network-manager (main) "wireless signal different from network-manager and Connection Properties: eth1 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109018
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109019 in python2.5 (main) "[apport]  python2.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in PyObject_Call()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109019
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109020 in openoffice.org (main) "OO Math doesn 't paint some symbols " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109020
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109022 in gnome-screensaver (main) "gnome-screensaver is not launched when I log in" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109022
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109023 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird crashes till it starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109023
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109024 in kde-guidance (main) "[apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109024
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109025 in vlc (universe) "[apport]  vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109025
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #109026 in firefox (main) "crash in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109026
[09:25] <cowbud> whatever happened to these bugs being automatically filed under which distro the user is using? I am still waiting for that launchpad feature!
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #109027 in Ubuntu "Mouse, Keyboard disabled in Virtual PC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109027
[09:25] <cowbud> it would make a lot of things easier..
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #109028 in rhythmbox (main) "crashes after upgrade from xbuntu 06.10 to 07.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109028
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #109029 in Ubuntu "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109029
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #109030 in Ubuntu "unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109030
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109031 in udev (main) "custom rules file ignored" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109031
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109032 in Ubuntu "Cannot remove Kopete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109032
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109033 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "e1000  high latency problem, msi error on boot." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109033
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #109035 in gnome-media (main) "[apport]  gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109035
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #109036 in Ubuntu "probleme login password  entered ubuntu 7.04 keybord us  but i m french  after the login and password is good" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109036
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #109037 in Ubuntu "update-manage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109037
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #109042 in konq-kim (universe) "[apport]  package konq-kim failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109042
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #109039 in gnome-panel (main) "USB mouse doesn't work spontaniously / then system doesn't shut off properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109039
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #109040 in Ubuntu "USB mouse doesn't work spontaniously / then system doesn't shut off properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109040
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109043 in beryl-core (universe) "[apport]  beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XPending()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109043
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109044 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109044
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109045 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crash on launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109045
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109046 in openoffice.org-l10n (main) "Missing button labels in OpenOffice.org en_GB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109046
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #109047 in slune (universe) "[apport]  slune crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109047
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #109048 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  blobby2" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109048
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #109050 in debian-installer (main) "Boot after Alternate Install Failed with 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109050
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #109051 in amarok (main) "Amarok UI bogged down when playing mms internet radio stream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109051
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #109052 in gnome-media (main) "Soud Blaster live 24bits USB not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109052
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #109053 in spamass-milter (universe) "[apport]  package spamass-milter failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109053
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #109055 in evolution (main) "Evolution Doesn't Sync Categories Tungsten T3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109055
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #109056 in debfoster (universe) "human intervention is required during a purge of debfoster" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109056
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #109057 in Ubuntu "[apport]  qtwengophone crashed with SIGSEGV in ConnectHandler::connectionIsUpEventHandlerThreadSafe()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109057
[10:57] <kbrooks> bug #109005
[10:57] <ubotu> Malone bug 109005 in firefox "Firefox always claims to have finished unexpectedly, but it didn't!" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109005
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #109058 in gnomebaker (universe) "Cannot add songs in Gnomebaker" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109058
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #109059 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "The content of a folder has disappeared" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109059
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #109060 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  youtranslate" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109060
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #109061 in kdebase (main) "New kde logout dialog does not work with internationalization" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109061
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #109062 in kdelibs (main) "[apport]  kdeinit crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109062
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #109063 in Ubuntu "External HDDs don't automatically mount and create the usual shortcuts in Fiercy Fawn 7.04 Ubuntu when plugged into USB-port" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109063
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #109064 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Boot-up option 'Start or install Ubuntu' scares new users" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109064
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #109065 in gmail-notify (universe) "[apport]  notifier.py crashed with GError in __init__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109065
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #109066 in rt2500 (universe) "version mismatch with module installed with kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109066
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #109067 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGFPE in TagLib::Wav::Properties::readWavProperties()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109067
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #109068 in Ubuntu "Gnome random screen / window distortion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109068


[00:29] <Omega> I would like to request ubottu for #ubuntu-tour
[00:34] <nhaines> jpds: Omega is requesting ubot4 to #ubuntu-tour ^^
[00:35] <Omega> Thank you sir.
[17:53] <AndrewMC> can i request the logbot for #ubuntu-youth
[17:54] <AndrewMC> please
[17:57] <erUSUL> is a core channel ? loco ?
[17:57]  * gnomefreak didnt know there was a youth channel
[17:57] <jpds> AndrewMC: No.
[17:57] <zkriesse> bonjouro
[17:58] <zkriesse> I was asked to join by AndrewMC, what's up
[17:59] <jpds> Logging a youth channel sounds like a Bad Idea™.
[17:59] <erUSUL> jpds: well he can certainly request it ... and you can certainly deny it ;) . giving a reason would be also nice ...
[17:59] <jpds> For similiar reasons to why we don't log -offtopic.
[18:00] <zkriesse> jpds: One, most of the folks in #ubuntu-youth are Young Adults, two: it's an official team so logging it is not a bad idea imo
[18:02]  * jpds delagates to Pici / topyli / nhandler / tsimpson / jussi.
[18:06] <gnomefreak> since it has #ubuntu i dont see why a log bot cant be in there
[18:07] <jpds> gnomefreak: Random dribbling of randomness by a bunch of young people, cool.
[18:07] <gnomefreak> :)
[18:07] <jpds> Do Not Want Logged for their sakes.
[18:07] <topyli> i have no issues with it, except that i don't know the bots very well so i'll shut up
[18:08] <zkriesse> jpds: Ok I'm going to say one thing. If you don't like the, " Random dribbling of randomness by a bunch of young people" why the heck are you even in the channel?
[18:08] <topyli> afaik the youth project has objectives beyond random dribbling too
[18:09] <jpds> zkriesse: I'm OK with it, I'm just not sure the others would want to be publicly logged.
[18:09] <jpds> Reducio ad absurdum.
[18:10] <jpds> Damn, wrong one.
[18:11] <phillw> Hi fil
[18:11] <gnomefreak> hi
[18:12] <phillw> Hi folks, a little while back I sent an email off asking for a log-bot on #lubuntu but never heard anything back :-(
[18:13]  * phillw scared as recognises some of the names on here :)
[18:13] <m4v> the only loggin bots I know are the locobots and ubuntulog, the locobots are ugly, for request ubuntulog you need to ask it in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:13] <phillw> m4v: is that for the bot same as on #ubuntu-beginners?
[18:14] <gnomefreak> i didnt get a memo but is today logbot day?
[18:15] <topyli> heh
[18:15] <phillw> gnomefreak: it was them discussing it on #ubuntu-youth that reminded me that I sent a request in at the end of July.
[18:16] <m4v> phillw: they might take a while
[18:16] <gnomefreak> is this something that should be brought up at a council meeting?
[18:16]  * m4v got a ubuntulog in #ubuntu-es-locos 3 months after he requested it
[18:18] <phillw> alanbell kindly gave us a meeting-bot, but as lubuntu is still not adopted by canonical, although supported on the forums etc. I was wondering when / if we would get a decission?
[18:18] <gnomefreak> all official locos should have one IMHO
[18:23] <phillw> I'll ask drubin next time he is about as to if I filed the request correctly and to the correct place. Thanks for your time in answering.
[18:24] <m4v> phillw: I sent 3 requests and got the bot 3 months later, don't hold your breath :P
[18:27] <phillw> 10/10/10 is fast approaching, as the lubuntu team is small, it would really be a big help to us if we could get it by then.
[18:28] <phillw> m4v: who did you request it from? I'm not even sure if I asked the correct people to consider it.
[18:28] <gnomefreak> IRCC i think has to approve it
[18:29] <jussi> hi all
[18:29] <gnomefreak> hi jussi
[18:29] <jussi> bot master is here
[18:29] <m4v> I only sent the request to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:29] <gnomefreak> :)
[18:29] <jussi> phillw: did you send a request for a locobot or ubuntulog?
[18:30] <jussi> AndrewMC: what is the purpose of #ubuntu-youth?
[18:30] <phillw> I asked for same bot as is on #ubuntu-beginners
[18:30] <jussi> phillw: right, and by what method did you ask?
[18:31] <phillw> was a while back, but I emailed someone, unfortunately that part of the email system is 'down' (Thank-you google mail), and I don't have the exact details
[18:32] <phillw> I only have my records of the team agreeing to having a log-bot on the channel.
[18:32] <jussi> phillw: ok, please re-request a bot from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:32] <phillw> thanks jussi
[18:33] <jussi> they are now usually pretty prompt, so give it about a week, unless they are busy
[18:33] <phillw> I'll forward on the email of the team agreeing to it, which should save a little time :-)
[18:35] <erUSUL> !sysinfo
[18:36] <gnomefreak> ?
[18:38] <erUSUL> sysinfo is <reply>Nobody here gives a d**** about your system specs. Please do not spam the channel with that script.
[18:38] <erUSUL> :P
[18:42] <jussi> hrm, I thought we had a factoid for that...
[18:42] <erUSUL> !search sysinfo
[18:42] <jussi> sysinfo-#ubuntuforums
[18:42] <jussi> !sysinfo-#ubuntuforums
[18:43] <jussi> sysinfo can be useful in #ubuntu, if you wnat to quickly tell your specs.
[18:43] <jussi> erUSUL: where was it that you saw it annoyingly?
[18:44] <erUSUL> jussi: not annoyingly only without reason in #ubuntu. just to show off
[18:44] <jussi> hrm, yeah thats annoying
[18:44] <jussi> but its still useful in certain situations
[18:45] <phillw> thanks jussi, i've sent the email, so now will keep fingers crossed :-)  Thanks everyone for your time, much appreciated. :-)
[18:45] <jussi> no probs :)
[18:46] <erUSUL> jussi: i've never seen that used for a good reason in #ubuntu ( dunno other channels )
[18:46] <jussi> erUSUL: I have...
[18:46] <jussi> although the use of it has died out some.
[19:03] <gnomefreak> they have scripts for that :)
[19:04] <gnomefreak> but there should be a more right to the point as mine is too long for #ubuntu usage
[19:04] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[20:37] <AndrewMC> jussi: sorry for the REALLY late reply but the purpose of Ubuntu Youth is to help them find their place in the community
[20:41] <nhandler> AndrewMC: Why do you guys want logs? What benefit would they offer?
[20:42] <zkriesse> Ok so why do we want logs?
[20:42] <AndrewMC> nhandler: sorry zkriesse is our leader i am one of his servents lol
[20:42] <zkriesse> AndrewMC: You're a co-leader...
[20:43] <nhandler> zkriesse: What benefit would having public logs on irclogs.u.c provide?
[20:43] <guntbert> who to poke about missing ubuntu-logs?
[20:43] <zkriesse> Provide logs to those who wish to read up on what they've missed
[20:44] <zkriesse> Say a meeting (Yes meetingology provides some logging but it's not perfect) there is a log that is public and people can read up on it
[20:44] <nhandler> zkriesse: Yes, but is there anything in those logs that is beneficial or is it more social.
[20:45] <zkriesse> A meeting log?
[20:45] <zkriesse> Of course a meeting log is beneficial...and now that we're constantly discussing (starting to anyway) IRC ideas for teaching, wiki importance, packaging, it's beginning to hold key knowledge
[20:48] <nhandler> zkriesse: I thought you had the meeting logs on the wiki. But I would strongly suggest going through your private logs (and talking to other members) to see if the benefits of public logs outweign the costs. For more social channels, many people are uncomfortable with their discussions being public (it also serves very little benefit). For formal teaching stuff, if it does not take place in -classroom, it is useful to ...
[20:48] <nhandler> ... pull the logs for that one session rather than making the whole channel publically logged. But in the end, it comes down to what the team wants and whether or not the canonical sysadmins are ok with it
[20:48] <guntbert> irclogs.ubuntu.com: the logbot apparently stopped yesterday 17:00 - who should be alerted?
[20:49] <zkriesse> Ok forget it
[20:49] <Tm_T><EMAIL_ADDRESS>guntbert
[20:50] <guntbert> tm_: thx
[20:50] <Tm_T> or, umm, /whois ubuntulog
[20:50] <Tm_T> or what's the logbot
[20:50] <Omega> ubuntulo1


[00:35] <Teranet> do we have anyone online who knows about : nova-cloud-controller     I do have an error which I do need help with
[06:43] <Andrew_jedi> hello, how can i install juju 1 ?
[06:43] <Andrew_jedi> juju/stable now points to juju 2
[11:35] <angelinux> hello everybody
[11:35] <angelinux> I have a question: is it possible to bootstrap juju in a vm that is contained in a private openstack cloud
[11:36] <angelinux> and let it manage that private openstack cloud?
[12:34] <themagicaltrout> pfft
[12:36] <marcoceppi> angelinux: it should be. Do you have credentials for that openstack cloud?
[12:58] <angelinux> @marcoceppi Yes I have
[12:59] <angelinux> but I get an error when I try to boostrap
[13:30] <marcoceppi> angelinux: what is the error?
[13:36] <angelinux> @marcoceppi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/859862/juju-bootstrap-on-a-private-openstack-cloud-fails here you can find details
[13:37] <angelinux> @marcoceppi: the error is "json: cannot unmarshal string into Go value of type nova.jsonEntity"
[13:37] <angelinux> @marcoceppi could you please help me?
[13:42] <marcoceppi> angelinux: what's your region name in OpenStack? Is it indeed RegionOne?
[13:44] <angelinux> @marcoceppi: yes my igestack cloud has RegionOne
[13:44] <angelinux> as region
[19:17] <bdx> lazyPower: ping
[19:18] <bdx> interesting issue here
[19:19] <bdx> if I `lxc launch:16.04 es-test`, and add the elastic.co gpg key and source repo, update apt, and `sudo apt install elasticsearch`, I get a successfull installation
[19:20] <bdx> `lxc launch ubuntu:16.04 es-test`*
[19:20] <bdx> whats interesting, is when I mimic these ops with juju -> https://github.com/jamesbeedy/juju-layer-elasticsearch-base
[19:21] <bdx> I hit this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665305/
[19:22] <bdx> or, even more, if I `juju deploy ubuntu`, and run the same ops to install elasticsearch that I run in the lxd container, I get a failure
[19:22] <bdx> with http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665305/
[19:23] <jrwren> bdx: how different is your default lxd profile from your juju lxd profile?
[19:24] <bdx> jrwren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665326/
[19:24] <jrwren> bdx: now that IS interesting ;)
[19:25] <bdx> jrwren: yeah, I'm on the line with others who are experiencing the same thing right now
[19:25] <bdx> I'm thinking I should write the list
[19:26] <bdx> jrwren: right
[19:27] <bdx> jrwren: I'm honestly over trying to troubleshoot this ... over my head at this point
[19:27] <jrwren> bdx: i thought mabye you had set security.privileged=true in your default profile or something.
[19:28] <bdx> jrwren: yea, that was my initial thought too
[19:28] <bdx> jrwren: even if I remove the extra profile, such that my juju container is only left with the default profile applied
[19:29] <bdx> I still get the error
[19:29] <bdx> so strange
[19:29] <jrwren> right, it doesn't seem to be a profile thing.
[19:32] <jrwren> bdx: can you pastebin output of `lxc config show <container>` for the two containers?
[19:34] <bdx> jrwren: here's the juju deployed container -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665355/
[19:35] <bdx> jrwren: here's the straight lxd -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665359/
[19:35] <bdx> jrwren: good call
[19:36] <bdx> jrwren: how does the juju container end up with all that extra jazz in there?
[19:36] <bdx> crazy
[19:36] <jrwren> bdx: the lxd provider in juju does it.
[19:36] <bdx> ahhh
[19:36] <bdx> wow, talk about opinionated
[19:37] <jrwren> juju is very opinionated. :)
[19:38] <bdx> jrwren: what do you feel is the best approach to resolving the issue I'm experiencing?
[19:38] <jrwren> bdx: email the list.
[19:38] <bdx> the issue being that elasticsearch won't install to juju deployed lxd containers
[19:38] <bdx> right
[19:38] <bdx> will do
[19:38] <bdx> jrwren: thx
[19:40] <jrwren> bdx: i'm going to try to repro. is it possible its 2 diff elastic search packages?
[19:44] <bdx> no
[19:44] <jrwren> bdx: if it helps at all, I get the couldn't write errors on package installation on my lxc.
[19:45] <bdx> jrwren: juju deploy lxc?
[19:45] <jrwren> so, I don't think this is a juju issue.
[19:45] <bdx> oh really
[19:45] <jrwren> no, no juju at all.
[19:45] <bdx> I don't get them on straight lxd
[19:45] <jrwren> bdx: I'll paste a repro, see if it works for you.
[19:45] <bdx> ok
[19:45] <jrwren> or rather, see if you do get the error :)
[19:47] <jrwren> bdx: https://gist.github.com/jrwren/8b648cc2736e68e82d96334d32b131b9   one file and 2 commands to run.
[19:47] <bdx> jrwren: I just got the error on straight lx43
[19:47] <bdx> lxd*
[19:47] <jrwren> oops, and I pasted the wrong command.
[19:47] <jrwren> bdx: oh, well, ok, that is great!
[19:49] <jrwren> bdx: maybe file a bug with elastic.co?
[19:54] <bdx> jrwren: I just ran these commands on an fresh xenial aws instance -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23665448/
[19:54] <bdx> success
[19:55] <bdx> jrwren: ^ makes me think its more or less a lxd thing...
[19:55] <jrwren> bdx: nice... but still, not working on LXD is bad.
[19:55] <jrwren> bdx: I can't imagine it would work in docker, for the same reasons.
[20:06] <jrwren> bdx: https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/commit/32df032c5944326e351a7910a877d1992563f791  looks like ES fixed it by enabling a parameter, a ES_SKIP_SET_KERNEL_PARAMETERS in the environment.
[20:08] <bdx> jrwren: nice find!
[20:08] <jrwren> bdx: well, it NEEDS to work in lxd, or else its not a great juju charm :)
[20:08] <bdx> right
[20:09] <bdx> jrwren: so, is this a use case for a tactic you think?
[20:09] <bdx> jrwren: to set ES_SKIP_SET_KERNEL_PARAMETERS prior to the apt install phase
[20:10] <bdx> or should I just add the few lines to the reactive file and set the param and then run the install cmds from the layer-apt api
[20:12] <jrwren> bdx: I don't know anything about tactics or layers, sorry.
[20:13] <bdx> jrwren: now my question is this, we don't want to always skip the kernel params on install, right? so should I detect whether or not the install is happening on a container, and only apply the ES_SKIP_SET_KERNEL_PARAMETERSES_SKIP_SET_KERNEL_PARAMETERS to container installs?
[20:13] <bdx> errg .. sorry, that pasted 2ce for some reason
[20:14] <jrwren> bdx: yes, that is probably best.
[20:14] <bdx> sebastienp:^
[20:14] <bdx> jrwren: thanks for your insight here
[20:21] <jrwren> bdx: oh my... have you used that es package?
[20:22] <bdx> jrwren: not yet ... I'm trying to though
[20:22] <bdx> jrwren: why, whats up with it?
[20:22] <jrwren> bdx: well, don't forget to specify openjdk-8-jre-headless package manually. they don't use dependencies.
[20:22] <jrwren> bdx: and then, don't be shocked like I was as it allocated 2+GB of ram immediately on starting. NOT virtual. 2.241g of RSS
[20:23] <jrwren> i guess that is java magic.
[20:23] <bdx> jrwren: openjdk-8-jre-headless installs as a dep of es when you install it from their repo
[20:23] <jrwren> bdx: that was not my experience.
[20:23] <jrwren> Depends: libc6, adduser, bash
[20:24] <jrwren> and on first run, the service fails asking to install a java.
[20:32] <bdx> jrwren: yeah ... I'm getting the same thing .... don't know how or why I had success previously (possilby I forgot to add my sources and installed 2.x or something)
[20:33] <jrwren> bdx: i see the package in ubuntu archives does have Depends: with a jre. *shrug* no biggie.
[20:34] <jrwren> bdx: I was just shocked at the 2.2G memory alloc on start.
[20:38] <bdx> jrwren: yeah, thats nuts
[20:39] <jrwren> bdx: i wonder what it does on a tiny instance :)
[20:39] <bdx> jrwren: whats even worse -> https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/core/wiredtiger/#memory-use
[20:39] <jrwren> lol, it had to be mongo
[20:40] <bdx> jrwren: I was wondering why my juju controllers were consuming so much ram ... even when barely anything was deployed ... it was driving me crazy, then I found that
[20:40] <bdx> lol
[20:40] <jrwren> bdx: :(
[20:40] <bdx> jrwren: ^ 50%-1G really borks lxd local deploys
[20:40] <jrwren> bdx: agreed. I don't leave lxd controllers up for that reason.
[20:41] <bdx> if you have a massive lxd-visor, the juju controller will automatically steal all your goods
[20:41] <jrwren> bdx: it has gotten MUCH better in jujud itself since some of the 2.0 betas
[20:41] <bdx> jrwren: yeah, but the underlying mongo tiger eats up 50%-1G though .... cry cry cry
[20:42] <bdx> thats w/o juju memory consumption taken into account of course
[20:43] <bdx> something needs to happen about the 50% mem on lxd controllers ... possibly we can apply some mem limit to the juju-controller profile or something
[20:43] <jrwren> bdx: painful :(
[20:48] <jrwren> bdx: may be as simple as mongoCmd = mongoCmd + "--wiredTigerCacheSizeGB"  here: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/mongo/service.go#L185
[20:49] <jrwren> bdx: its wednesday before the holidays and if you are feeling brave, propose that :)
[21:40] <petevg> cory_fu, bcsaller: PR for the dump of the logs here: https://github.com/juju-solutions/matrix/pull/56 (It's non ideal for a lot of reasons, but I believe suitable for our basic needs. I'm going to work through some of the TODOs, and prioritize partially based on feedback.)
[21:41] <bdx> whats the best way to check if you are in a container or not?
[21:41] <bdx> I found this -> https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/charm-helpers/is_container
[21:41] <bdx> but it isn't in charmhelpers 0.10.0 ...
[21:42] <bdx> even more, systemd-virt-check
[21:42] <bdx> doesn't seem to even be a thing ...
[21:43] <bdx> ahhh, possibly I should be checking the output of 'systemd-detect-virt'


[10:49] <kelemengabor> TLE: hi, this new langpack update is certainly for Natty, right?  I thought we will have full docs translations at last
[12:58] <TLE> yes, it is embarrissing
[12:59] <TLE> and since this is the last planned lang pack cycle for natty, it wont get eny better without a large effort
[13:00] <kelemengabor> and the wrong links are from the gnome-user-guide package, meaning even if it would be fixed in the toolchain, this would require a new upload
[13:10] <kelemengabor> TLE: okay, added a notice to the QA page
[13:10] <kelemengabor> also reinstalled the gnome-user-docs from -updates, it sucks just the same way
[13:10] <kelemengabor> so no regression here
[13:11] <kelemengabor> and no "full translation" either :(
[13:14] <TLE> bummer on the last part
[13:17] <kelemengabor> yup... and fixing that broken link makes the translations visible
[19:43] <m4n1sh> kelemengabor: hey
[19:44] <kelemengabor> hi m4n1sh
[19:44] <m4n1sh> I merged both of your branches
[19:44] <m4n1sh> just have a look at the trunk in your free time
[19:44] <m4n1sh> if you find any more issues
[19:44] <kelemengabor> great, thanks!
[19:45] <m4n1sh> will release it day after tomorrow. it would again need a UIFe
[20:04] <kelemengabor> m4n1sh: okay, managed to pull the branch, I see the problems :(
[20:04] <m4n1sh> like
[20:04] <kelemengabor> date formatting strings
[20:04] <kelemengabor> still not translatable
[20:05] <m4n1sh> file and line number
[20:05] <m4n1sh> ?
[20:05] <kelemengabor> history-widget.vala, 379
[20:05] <kelemengabor> 346 too
[20:06] <m4n1sh> var date_string = date.format(_("%d %B %Y"));
[20:06] <m4n1sh> var date_string = date.format(_("%d %B %Y"));
[20:06] <m4n1sh> what should it be?
[20:06] <kelemengabor> umm, they do not look like this for me
[20:07] <kelemengabor> let me double check...
[20:07] <m4n1sh> kelemengabor: wait. looks like previous push failed
[20:08] <kelemengabor> I have revno 103
[20:08] <kelemengabor> at the top of bzr log
[20:10] <m4n1sh> kelemengabor: pull
[20:11] <m4n1sh> pushed all the changes
[20:14] <kelemengabor> thanks, I no longer see the problems :)
[20:20] <m4n1sh> thanks