[00:21] <hagabaka> shadeslayer_: in this case (plasma-widget-smooth-tasks), it was in kubuntu repository, but not in KDE, and now it gets removed because of dependency conflicts
[00:22] <shadeslayer_> hagabaka: i still have smooth tasks
[00:22] <hagabaka> with KDE 4.5 beta packages from kubuntu-ppa/beta?
[00:22] <shadeslayer_> oh wait... i think i compiled it
[00:24] <shadeslayer_> hagabaka: have to go for now.. really sleepy :P
[00:24] <shadeslayer_> hagabaka: ill have a look at in 1-2 days,ok?
[00:24] <hagabaka> good night
[00:24] <hagabaka> ok
[00:25] <shadeslayer_> hagabaka: ill upload it in the PPA on friday night probably :)
[00:25] <hagabaka> cool, thanks
[00:25] <shadeslayer_> np
[00:37] <Thinkerer68> I am having trouble playing some files in Kaffeine, and I have a good idea of why but don't know how to proceed. Can anyone offer assistance?
[00:38] <hagabaka> is anyone else using kde 4.5 packages and seeing "the name org.kde.ActivityManager is not provided by any service files" on the tab on the right edge of the screen?
[01:13] <solidturtle> hello I have some gnome app launched at the beginning of my session automatically where can I configure it?
[01:16] <Typos_King> solidturtle:    system settings > advanced > autostart
[01:17] <solidturtle> Typos_King: yes I would like if all autostart app are present here because I didn't see a lot last time
[01:17] <Typos_King> k
[01:58] <prsn> Hello, I've installed Kubuntu, but I prefer to use Xmonad most of the time. However, there are a  bunch of nice KDE things that it becomes difficult to access, for instance the clean logout  features in the KMenu. Is there a way to run the Kmenu, or the panel it lives in, from within a  different window manager?
[01:59] <Typos_King_> don't think so
[02:00] <Typos_King_> you can run another 'window manager', yes, but KDE uses Kwin for those panels stuff
[02:00] <Typos_King_> so, you can run xmonad if you wish, and still use kde desktop manager, and run kde apps
[02:01] <rww> actually, you can change window manager from Default Applications in System Settings, and still have the panel.
[02:01] <rww> it works fine without kwin.
[02:01] <rww> whether tiling window managers play nice with panels is another story
[02:02] <prsn> hmm
[02:02] <Typos_King_> really?
[02:02] <prsn> for me the 'use a different window manager' button is grayed out
[02:02] <Typos_King_> never bothered myself, I use IceWM
[02:02] <prsn> and use Kwin is selected, even though I'm in xmonad right now...
[02:03] <rww> prsn: yeah, that option isn't compatible with some window managers. i forget what the criterion is.
[02:03] <rww> I use it with openbox, works fine.
[02:04] <prsn> also, is there just a nice way to log out from the command line? google turned up lots of people recommending a long dcop line, but I get ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
[02:04] <prsn> which is maybe because that advice is pre-KDE4?
[02:05] <Typos_King_> can't say
[02:05] <prsn> and if it's true that i can run that panel in other window managers, how can i start it manually?
[02:05] <Typos_King_> I usually from the command line do either reboot or poweroff :)
[02:05] <rww> dunno. the correct way of doing it in xmonad is mod-shift-q
[02:05] <rww> (logging out, that is)
[02:05] <Typos_King_> yeah, you can do that too, set a keybinding to the logout command for your window manager
[02:06] <prsn> ah, ok... that will do everything nice and cleanly? I'm trying to make sure Konsole's session restore works properly.
[02:06] <Typos_King_> prsn:    the logout command will be 'window manager' dependent, maybe you were using a KDE/kwin command for another WM
[02:06] <Typos_King_> reason why  you got the DCOP error
[02:07] <prsn> ok... thanks guys! Going to try it
[02:32] <chris122380> ubuntu wifi works but when I install Kubuntu-desktop the KDE wifi not work, why is that?
[02:32] <chris122380> the kde network manager sees no wifi networks but gnome dose
[02:33] <chris122380> ubuntu 10.04 with Kubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <chris122380> :-(
[02:34] <chris122380> ubuntu wifi works but when I install Kubuntu-desktop the KDE wifi not work, why is that?
[02:34] <chris122380> the kde network manager sees no wifi networks but gnome dose
[02:34] <chris122380> ubuntu 10.04 with Kubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <Lord_Rahl> Anyone else have a problem trying to share a folder with samba on 10.04? Mine will not accept the user & password even thuo you have done 'smbpasswd -a username' & 'smbpasswd -e username'?
[03:14] <Lord_Rahl> wow! no one uses samba. :)
[03:58] <jorge_> hello
[03:58] <jorge_> how to delete wine
[03:59] <jorge_> because when i running the program thare are install geve me a error
[04:00] <jorge_> how remove wine
[04:03] <jorge_> hello some one can help me please
[04:04] <DarthFrog> jorge_: sudo apt-get remove wine
[04:07] <jorge_> DarthFrog remove all the program installed
[04:07] <DarthFrog> jorge_: You have something seriously wrong then.
[04:07] <jorge_> that when I run any program gives me error
[04:07] <jorge_> yes
[04:07] <DarthFrog> I suggest you backup your data and re-install Kubuntu.
[04:09] <jorge_> you think is Kubuntu is the problem
[04:10] <DarthFrog> Well, it seems to me that if every program gives an error and trying to uninstall a package wants to remove everything, yes, I think you might just have a bad install.
[04:11] <DarthFrog> It may not be Kubuntu that caused the problem, though.
[04:12] <josephnexus> hi there, I'm working with kontact and I'm wondering how to make multiple todo lists
[04:14] <jorge_> I  hav DacEasy program of account when i going to use or open and doing something
[04:14] <jorge_> DacEasy es going to close
[04:26] <quonion> yo
[04:26] <quonion> i seek some who will discribe me how to conect wi-fi
[04:42] <nico__> quick question, how do i fix an issue i am having with my .deb file loader. when i try to install any .deb program when i click to install it the installition box to open it comes up but then disappears and never installs the program. why?
[04:45] <jules> hi
could be anything, run dpkg -i filename.deb and see what its problem it
[05:11] <SandGorgon> how does one setup an external monitor on Kubuntu 10.04 ?
[05:20] <Zhenya> hi guys
[05:20] <Zhenya> can anyone help me to get a webcam working?
[05:39] <Zhenya> can anyone help me to get a webcam working?
[05:45] <ubuntu> hi!
[05:45] <ubuntu> What is desktop activity?
[05:45] <Zhenya> !desktop
[05:46] <ubuntu> !kde
[05:46] <ubuntu> what is desktop activity?????????//
[05:46] <ubuntu> !activity
[05:46] <ubuntu> !desktop activity
[05:46] <Zhenya> desktop activity is settings of all your desktop things (at least thats what i thing)
[05:47] <Zhenya> *think
[05:47] <ubuntu> uhm
[05:47] <ubuntu> Kubuntu is complex than Ubuntu
[05:47] <Zhenya> kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE running as the window manager instead of gnome
[05:47] <Zhenya> !kde
[05:49] <ubuntu> What about Compiz for Kubuntu ?
[05:50] <ubuntu> !compiz
[05:50] <ubuntu> Compiz for kUbuntu?
[05:50] <bazhang> install ccsm
[05:50] <bazhang> !ccsm | ubuntu
[05:51] <Zhenya> can anyone help me to get a webcam working?
[05:51] <bazhang> ubuntu, then /join #compiz
[06:01] <Zhenya> can anyone help me to get a webcam working?
[06:03] <sushilcha> i was testing new kde 4.5 beta2 and can't seem to have blur effect.. in intel 945GM
[06:03] <sushilcha> is it not supported yet in intel 945 cards?
[06:04] <aperson> is there a keyboard shortcut to make a window snap to the left or right of the screen like you can do via dragging?
[06:28] <aperson> nvm, got it: ctrl+shift+left/right
[06:52] <bbeck> I finally got KDE 4.5 Beta 2 installed, and was wondering if anyone knew how to get the new plasma blur effect working?
[06:54] <bbeck> I checked glxinfo, and I have GL_ARB_fragment_program.
[07:02] <sushilcha> anybody successful with blur effect in intel 945?
[07:05] <bbeck> sushilcha: I believe that is the card that I have (though don't remember how to check), and even though I have the proper extension, it doesn't seem to work.  Then again this is a beta release.
[07:07] <sushilcha> bbeck: yes rite, u can check it with "lspci | grep Intel"
[07:07] <sushilcha> bbeck: i was worried that it might not be available in final release as well or.. may be it is intel driver problem?
[07:09] <bbeck> sushilcha: according to lspci I have: Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:11] <bbeck> I hope it's available, because it looks really sharp, and would solve the problem of readablility of plasmoids.
[07:12] <sushilcha> bbeck: yes, hope so :)
[07:13] <sushilcha> i think it's opengl3 thing, and intel is yet to release driver supporting opengl3? i am not pretty sure though
[07:15] <bbeck> What features are you liking about 4.5?  I got it installed this afternoon, so I haven't found anything huge yet.
[07:16] <bbeck> I'm plus minus on the restructuring of System Settings, I had just gotten used to the previous layout.  Though I imagine I'll get used to this one too.
[07:16] <sushilcha> yeah not much, blur effect is not working :( and that's buggin me hehe
[07:16] <sushilcha> i guess i'll rollback to 4.4.4
[07:16] <solidturtle> Hi I have installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu and when I am connecting to kde session I have the gnome-keyring app launched automatically I looked in System > Advanced > Applications Start automatically and there is no other gnome app activitated, how do I remove the gnome keyring app automatically launched in kde?
[07:16] <bbeck> lol, that was one of the things that really got me excited about this release too.
[07:18] <sushilcha> however i seem to like new arrangement in systemsettings.. and customizing desktop themes is better now
[07:20] <sushilcha> solidturtle: hav u tried killing gnome-keyring and login again
[07:20] <sushilcha> i think it might be because of restoring of old session u r getting gnome-keyring again ??
[07:20] <solidturtle> sushilcha: good idea thx!
[08:03] <lyhana8> hello which package do you advice for ripping music CD ?
[08:03] <lyhana8> dolphin seem able to do it but don't grab any information about the tracks
[08:07] <Kubry> Maybe in that cd there's no information about the tracks. It happened to me in my cds.
[08:09] <lyhana8> Kubry: oh right. I'll see with others CDs.
[08:19] <Kubry> Hello. Anybody of you use Ktimetracker?
[09:50] <ilyak> hi *
[09:50] <ilyak> I've installed a 64-bit 10.4 kubuntu, and I have a problem:
[09:51] <ilyak> It hangs when I try to login, showing blank screen with cursor
[09:51] <ilyak> In .xsession-error it complains about missing connection to ibus-daemon (no other errors)
[09:51] <ilyak> Is this a known issue? How to fix?
[09:59] <ilyak> kwin and even composite are loaded, so it seems that it's session  that hangs
[10:55] <evilsherpa> hidey ho neighbours, long time ubuntu lover, have realised though that most of the apps i spend most of my time using are native to KDE. ie amarok and ktorrent, and for some reason even blender feels kdeish
[10:55] <evilsherpa> how do i make the transition, - google is assisting
[10:57] <phoenix_> is anyone there
[10:59] <gottto> evilsherpa: you can install   kubuntu-desktop   then select it from the login
[11:00] <gottto> !info kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <evilsherpa> gottto, its dloading as we speak
[11:00] <gottto> :]
[11:01] <solidturtle_> I would like to know how do I delete with nepomuk?
[11:01] <solidturtle_> a tag?
[11:02] <phoenix_> i copied a folder from oe location to another , i forgot the location where i copied, is there a log or something where i can find the "notifications and jobs"
[11:03] <phoenix_> oe-> one
[11:03] <evilsherpa> once im in KDE will i need to reinstall all this jazz, or is it the same user profile with the same jazz
[11:03] <evilsherpa> ?
[11:03] <evilsherpa> and thanks all
[11:04] <gottto> evilsherpa: you will still use the same user - some gnome apps will show in the kde menu tho
[11:05] <amgarching> any idea why debian suddenly started shouting at me in all caps? http://pastebin.com/xTUPKQ7H
[11:05] <gottto> phoenix_: you could try in terminal   find / -name folder-name
[11:06] <gottto> amgarching: there is #debian channel for debian questions :]
[11:06] <phoenix_> gottto: is it different from kde "find file"?
[11:06] <amgarching> wrong widow, sorry
[11:09] <ilyak> I've figured out the problem
[11:09] <ilyak> mysql-server-5.1 conflicted with kde-workspace-bin and had it removed
[11:09] <ilyak> I've reinstalled kde-workspace-bin and voila
[11:09] <gottto> phoenix_: that prob is an interface for the terminal find command
[11:11] <phoenix_> gottto: i copied a folder of size around 10 gb to another location. the notifications said , it has successfully copied the folder. but , i couldnt find it
[11:12] <phoenix_> gottto: ok , sorry for troubling you, i will copy it again
[11:14] <gottto> phoenix_: I don't know of a log it would show up in - using the find command seemed easier - if you read   man find   there is an option to find files by size
[11:38] <don_kin_Carlos> hello
[11:39] <don_kin_Carlos> i want to remove a repository i've been using for some time (playdeb which is still offline) how do i remove all the applications i've installed from this repo (i don't remember them all)?
[11:53] <danboid> I'm going to be imaging a 'buntu install onto a friends PC tonight- it will be dual-booting with vista- and I'd like to avoid faffing with setting grub up. Any recommendations? Theres 'Super Grub Disk' which I've never tried but I'm not sure if it supports grub 2. There's another disc like this but I can't remember its name
[11:54] <danboid> I realise I'll need to edit fstab myself but I'm OK with that
[11:54] <danboid> probably
[11:54] <danboid> unless SGD does this for you too
[11:57] <Walzmyn> I've never had to do anything with grub when I dual booted - it automagically worked
[11:58] <danboid> Walzmyn, I'm not going to be running the buntu installer- I'm blasting an image on via fsarchiver
[11:58] <danboid> I could install grub manually but I don't want to
[11:58] <Walzmyn> then I've no idea - 'cause i'm not exactly sure what that means :)
[11:59] <warlock47348> hello
[11:59] <danboid> I'm sure I can avoid this via SGD or another such tool
[11:59] <gottto> !chroot
[11:59] <warlock47348> how do i install wow to kubuntu2
[12:00] <solidturtle_> Does anybody knows how delete a tag in nepomuk?
[12:00] <gottto> !wine | warlock47348
[12:00] <gottto> !bot
[12:01] <gottto> warlock47348: you need to use wine interface
[12:01] <warlock47348> i downloaded wine, i think im installin thou wine but im not sure
[12:03] <gottto> warlock47348: there is the #winehq channel for that
[12:03] <warlock47348> oo ok
[12:17] <winadila> mmm
[12:26] <busch> Wow, ich hab gerade Kubuntu installiert und finde es toll
[12:26] <busch> Das letzte mal KDE war vor 4 Jahren, da hat sich ja einiges getan
[12:27] <Lynoure> busch: is toll good or bad?
[12:27] <busch> Lynoure: good
[12:27] <busch> Oh, is there a german irc-channel for kubuntu?
[12:28] <Lynoure> busch: :)  (this is mostly an English speaking channel and my German is rusty). There is #kubuntu-de , probably
[12:28] <gottto>  #ubuntu-de
[12:29] <crashev> anyone knows what can be the source of this problem => http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112379.0 ?
[12:38] <evilsherpa> hey all, long time ubuntu lover, made the change to Kubuntu today, am loving it, this is simple im sure, how do i change my desktop wallpapare?
[12:39] <evilsherpa> figured it out
[12:56] <evilsherpa> ok, that was a lie
[12:57] <evilsherpa> woop. sorted
[12:57] <lalo> hey
[12:57] <lalo> who is there ?
[13:27] <SpaceMan> what can I use to compare 2 dirs (with sub-dirs) and find any differences? I recently copied 450GB of data from a backup but the transfer was interrupted and I need to confirm that the copied data is the same as the backup
[13:42] <Torch> SpaceMan: rsync?
[14:01] <JuJuBee> I have a website I need to take a test on and the site is telling me no JRE isntalled in the browser.  I have openjdk-6-jre installed
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:20] <mime> hello ppl. i have an external hdd, and when i switch it, only makes noise and doesnt show data (strange noise) any idea for formatting it, doesnt matter about my data, is like it loosed the fat32 or whatever it was and in an xp or suse it works, not in ubuntu 9.04, thnx!
[14:21] <phoenix_> anyone there
[14:22] <Lynoure> phoenix_: /who *   answers that
[14:22] <mime> hello ppl. i have an external hdd, and when i switch it, only makes noise and doesnt show data (strange noise) any idea for formatting it, doesnt matter about my data, is like it loosed the fat32 or whatever it was and in an xp or suse it works, not in ubuntu 9.04, thnx!
[14:25] <phoenix_> Lynoure: when i try to update through kpackagekit , a dialog comes and waits for infinite. the dialog'd title is "simulating the update".the dialog contains the text "waiting for other tasks". if you need i will paste the terminal output
[14:26] <Lynoure> phoenix_: best not to target me in specific... the others are less likely to answer that way and I usually prefer aptitude/apt-get
[14:27] <phoenix_> Lynoure: what about the automatic updates. everytime it runs, this condition occurs
[14:32] <Lynoure> phoenix_: Ask the channel, don't ask me. (See above)
[14:37] <kemen> Hi all
[15:29] <bukayoo> is there a channel for kubuntu maverick?
[15:29] <bukayoo> or is ubuntu+1 handles everything?
[15:30] <zcf115> 你们好吗。
[15:30] <prower> hello :> i'm attempting to use kdenlive with recordmydesktop to make a couple of little tutorial videos on 10.04, but...when you click on record in kdenlive with "screen grab" as a source, nothing happens :> recordmydesktop run on its own works fine, on the other hand?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> bukayoo, yeah we kde users are left out of maverick
[15:32] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: i know the feeling..it's hard to post kde stuff there
[15:32] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: though posting maverick stuff here is frowned upon
[15:34] <bukayoo> reason is I see some versioning prob? in the libqt4-webkit which is preventing a lot of the upgrade
[15:35] <bukayoo> most of the qt* stuff were versione 4.7.0~beta...but this libqt4-webkit is versioned 4.7~beta..
[15:36] <BluesKaj> bukayoo, I gave up on kubuntu-maverick due to probs with kate and /etc/network/interfaces/ ..knetworkmanager is flaky again in maverick as well.
[15:37] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: sorry to hear that..but I want kubuntu packager to note what I said above
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I'm not real familiar with the inticacies of qt based stuff , but maverick so far is very unstable vs what lucid was at this stage ...perhaps due to more devs fixing stuff on a LTS release.
[15:43] <bukayoo> does anyone know why the libqt4-webkit is versioned differently from the rest of the qt4* stuff?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> bukayoo, which browser ?
[15:50] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: no offense but *webkit* stuff is not just for web browsers
[15:51] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: a lot of new stuff now depends on it and the version error? is preventing most upgrade
[15:52] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: i had to rebuild it to get past it
[15:52] <BluesKaj> none taken bukayoo , I'm not familiar with the underlying code language used
[15:54] <bukayoo> BluesKaj: that's ok.. I'm still learning myself..
[16:12] <slow-motion> hi
[16:19] <n8w> hey
[16:20] <n8w> do u guys know about a calendar which would "talk" to outlook's calendar?
[16:23] <tsimpson> usually one exports the calendar in vCalendar or iCal format
[16:24] <n8w> tsimpson:  hmm i was thinkin abour sunbird...but dunno yet
[16:24]  * oxymoron shall kill the KDE PIM team for developing a freaking mobile version of it thats terrible so Kmail get delayed for KDE 4.5 release! :(
[16:24] <tsimpson> oxymoron: I'm sure patches are welcome ;)
[16:26] <oxymoron> tsimpson: A patch to vaporize PIM team from earth surface you mean? :D
[16:27]  * oxymoron probably wait for KDE 4.5, Kubuntu 10.10 and Android 2.1 for nothing, proably not even worth it at all.
[16:46] <IIVQ> hello
[16:46] <IIVQ> I have a problem with flash in firefox in LL
[16:46] <IIVQ> when I have some flash apps open and I switch windows, then sometimes all flash apps hang/crash and turn to a grey square
[16:47] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, youtube?
[16:47] <IIVQ> I've been googling for a few minutes, most problems are from 2007/2008 and flash 8 or 9
[16:47] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:47] <IIVQ> BluesKaj, among others
[16:48] <IIVQ> BluesKaj, I have that
[16:48] <IIVQ>     File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so/ Version:  Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45
[16:48] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, did you reinstall flash afterwards?
[16:48] <IIVQ> BluesKaj,  nope
[16:48] <IIVQ> I think it came installed with LL
[16:49] <IIVQ> or I might have installed it quickly after
[16:52] <IIVQ> but BluesKaj: it's nto a terrybly common problem then?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> I would run sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree , it's a transistional package that will bring the proper flash apps with it
[16:53] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, common enough ..seen it several times
[16:54] <IIVQ> ok
[16:54] <IIVQ> but would you advice reinstalling flash?
[16:54] <IIVQ> usually it happens when changing pages
[16:55] <IIVQ> it never crashes when I'm "looking" at a page
[16:55] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, it's best to let apt/aptitude handle flash requirements...trying to install flashplayers etc manually usually leads to flash conflicts
[16:55] <IIVQ> yeah ok but would you recommend going the windows way and reinstall flashplayer-nonfree?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> but installing flashplugin-nonfree is a pretty safe way to settle the problem
[16:56] <IIVQ> yeah I have that installed
[16:57] <BluesKaj> not flashplayer-nonfree , flashplugin-nonfree
[16:58] <BluesKaj> the proper flashplayer version will install and the conflicting one will be removed
[16:58] <IIVQ> ahhhh thx
[16:58] <IIVQ> sorry
[16:58] <IIVQ> I have flashplugin-nonfree
[16:58] <saladim1> are there known problems with direkt upgrade from kubuntu 8.04 to 10.04
[16:59] <BluesKaj> it should work , IIVQ
[16:59] <IIVQ> ok thx BluesKaj - it "works" but doesn't stay working
[16:59] <tsimpson> saladim1: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[16:59] <IIVQ> I can start new pages with flash apps without restarting ff, but the old ones I have to refresh
[17:01] <BluesKaj> anytime one installs webapps the browser has to be refreshed
[17:01] <saladim1> tsimpson: thank you, while lucid isn't mentioned ...
[17:03] <IIVQ> no not installing, I mean after the flash crasheds
[17:03] <tsimpson> saladim1: you need to go to karmic then to lucid
[17:03] <tsimpson> saladim1: 8.04 was not an LTS for Kubuntu
[17:03] <BluesKaj> hmm IIVQ , I wonder if flash is to blame
[17:03] <IIVQ> I don't know
[17:06] <saladim1> tsimpson: ok, im on my way :-)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, can he skip 8.10, and 9.04 /
[17:08] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:09] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: upgrading directly from 8.04 to 9.10 is supported, yes
[17:09] <BluesKaj> ok tsimpson , good to know :)
[17:11] <BluesKaj> well, lunchtime and yardwork to do ...BBL
[17:13] <mime> hello i have an external hdd but ubuntu 9.04 dont detect it, but windows yes, i dont care about the data, and its in ntfs
[17:13] <mime> any help would be very appreciated, thnx
[17:26] <dany_> hi all
[17:27] <dany_> I'm compiling kcollectd-0.9 with Cmake but I get this error messsage: CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
[17:27] <dany_> Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
[17:28] <dany_> Boost_INCLUDE_DIR (ADVANCED)
[17:28] <dany_>    used as include directory in directory /home/dany/ToCompile/kcollectd-0.9/kcollectd
[17:28] <dany_>    used as include directory in directory /home/dany/ToCompile/kcollectd-0.9/kcollectd/icons
[17:28] <dany_> do you know what does it mean?
[17:33] <dany_> no one?
[17:34] <bazhang> dany_, kcollectd is in the repos
[17:34] <dany_> yes but I don't know if it is the last version
[17:35] <bazhang> dany_, any reason you need the very latest version?
[17:35] <jimmy51_> hello, i have some screenshots (jpg's) i'd like to add notes to.  Text, circling stuff, arrows... basic stuff.  what graphics app should i use?  i tried GIMP but couldn't get it to do anything but stare back at me mockingly.
[17:36] <dany_> yes I have to develop a plug-in for collectd
[17:36] <dany_> then maybe I need kcollectd updated too
[17:50] <benkay86> A question on general policy: does stuff in the kubuntu-updates ppa still eventually get pushed to the official lucid-updates repository? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[18:06] <blackxored> hello
[18:10] <blackxored> hi guys, I'm trying out gwibber on ubuntu with a kubuntu-desktop install
[18:10] <blackxored> can't post
[18:10] <blackxored> why's that?
[18:11] <zegenie_> blackxored: if you're posting to twitter it could be the problems they're having nowadays
[18:12] <zegenie_> might not have anything to do with gwibber or kde ...
[18:13] <blackxored> zegenie, i post from the web
[18:13] <blackxored> zegenie, and I believe through gnome as well, although I haven't tested recently
[18:13] <blackxored> the screen is gray
[18:13] <blackxored> where messages go
[18:14] <blackxored> I see the character limit and if i hit reply it fills with @<username>: but i can't enter text
[18:14] <djustice> blackxored: who knows.. does choqok work?
[18:15] <blackxored> djustice, what?
[18:28] <bbeck> Does anyone know how to get a kjots book onto the panel or desktop?  I saw someone do this in a screencast, but I cannot figure out how.
[18:33] <Zhenya> can anyone help me to get a webcam working?
[18:39] <quesada> I have a qt app (lyx) that doesn't obey the general kde systemsettings. I've tried qtconfig too, but no dice. I just want to make the menu fonts larger, is this possble?
[18:41] <quesada> kde 4.4.2
[18:43] <soee> does anyone know how should i configure ALSA to get 5.1 sound ?
[18:43] <soee> it works when i test it in console (each speaker)
[18:43] <soee> bot if i play video or music only 2 works
[18:53] <uga> guys, has anyone noticed that after an upgrade to kde 4.4.8x packages (both in lucid backports and also upgrading to maverick), some kde settings aren't imported?
[18:53] <uga> unfortunately I cannot reproduce (I cannot go back in releases) to obtain more details, but I've seen for example that web shortcuts get all disabled
[18:53] <uga> which makes one think they do not work anymore
[18:55] <uga> I guess an rc file name changed, or some value names were changed in the release
[19:02]  * uga checks #sahara-desert for more life
[19:19] <koyal13> there is any spanish??
[19:19] <Pici> !es | koyal13
[19:19] <koyal13> ok
[19:20] <koyal13> te puedo hablar en español??
[19:20] <Pici> koyal13: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:21] <koyal13> ok I'm inside, thank you, so can i meet with you in these canal??
[20:03] <blackxored> hi guys, my gwibber on kde shows the message pane gray, it shows the character limit, but won't allow me writing using gwibber-daily from 10 minutes, before than using gwibber 2.30.1
[20:03] <blackxored> any clues why this is happening???
[20:10] <ionut> does anyonw knows an good mp3 cutter
[20:10] <ionut> ?
[20:11] <llutz> ionut: mp3splt
[20:14] <kde185> anyone know how to change the default boot options for kubuntu but leave windows with the default in grub2?
[20:21] <deedee> Hey all, I can't mount cd's... when I try I get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[20:23] <deedee> I've tried several different cds and none of them work.
[20:55] <edbian> Where can I set my default browser and such?  I'm new to KDE
[21:08] <BiggFREE> Hi
[21:13] <miazgator> I wish KDE was primary DE in Ubuntu
[21:13] <miazgator> gnome has some serious issues
[21:23] <edi_99> Hi guys. I've got a dual core 2,66 MHz machine with 4GB of RAM. I'm using Kubuntu Karma. If I try to watch a movie, my cpu boosts to 85 - 95%. I believe this is not normal. What should I do?
[21:23] <edi_99> no other apps are open
[21:27] <n8w> edi_99:  htop
[21:28] <n8w> edi_99:  i mean, use top/htop to find out what service takes it
[21:40] <edi_99> n8w thanks, I'll try that.
[21:41] <n8w> edi_99:  np...
[22:11] <slow-motion> hi
[22:42] <pedro> hi all...I'm trying to change grub.conf but even using sudo it opens as a read-only file
[22:46] <Walzmyn> pedro: what's the exact command your typing in?
[22:51] <pedro> Walzmyn: sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[22:51] <Jogi_Baer> test
[22:52] <Walzmyn> pedro: :( I don't know why i'd be doing that.
[22:53] <Jogi_Baer> Hi all ... this is my first time here ... im happy to meet you
[22:53] <Walzmyn> hi Jogi_Baer
[22:53] <pedro> Walzmyn: well if you know some other way to remove entries from the grub menu, please tell me so ;)
[22:54] <Walzmyn> pedro: you got a dozen kernel entries and you only want the last 2 or 3?
[22:55] <pedro> Walzmyn: yup
[22:55] <Walzmyn> pedro: had the same thing - use apt to remove the old kernels - the grub config thingy will automagically remove the entries for the removed kernels
[22:56] <pedro> Walzmyn: but this is actually bothering me, now...I can't edit a file as root...howcome?
[22:56] <Walzmyn> pedro: that one, I don't know
[22:58] <bukayoo> pedro: grub.cfg has special permissions
[22:59] <pedro> so...root can't change it?
[22:59] <bukayoo> pedro: get rid of your older kernels using pkg manager and then do sudo update-grub
[23:00] <Walzmyn> pedro: i don't actually have a /boot/grub/grub.conf - that might be the problem
[23:00] <bukayoo> pedro: yes you can.. a little lifting..but the proper way is to get rid of old ones and then let update-grub do the rest
[23:01] <bukayoo> Walzmyn: in grub2 it's grub.cfg
[23:01]  * Walzmyn nods
[23:01] <Walzmyn> I was just looking up what he tried to edit
[23:02] <Walzmyn> personally I'm not messing with grub, 'cause I wanna still be able to boot my computer
[23:06] <slow-motion> n8
[23:17] <quesada> config-qt4 changes do not show up on qt4 apps...
[23:17] <quesada> any idea where to look for config files?
[23:18] <quesada> s/config-qt4/qtconfig-qt4
[23:35] <agostini> oi
[23:50] <amichair> can anyone help in getting a bluetooth usb dongle working? it works on a netbook, but not detected on the desktop
[23:51] <otavioribeiro> oi
[23:53] <Walzmyn> anybody else have this ugly purple screen when booting up?
[23:53] <Apollonovich> anybody else find that since upgrading to lucid their machine's a piece of shit?
[23:56] <amichair> Walzmyn: you can install plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo to get the kubuntu one back
[23:56] <Pici> Apollonovich: Please mind your language here.
[23:57] <Apollonovich> seriously.  flash no longer works with audio, and when I have flash open, I can't get any audio out of amarok or the rest of kde.  my disk subsystem is suddenly flaky in bizarre ways.  it's like this release had no QC.
[23:57] <Walzmyn> amichair: well, thank you. I've googled the hell out of this and not found a thing
[23:57] <Apollonovich> the entire distro seems to have gone to...well, Pici, for your sake, I'll be nice...rubbish.
[23:58] <Walzmyn> Apollonovich: mine's working fine
[23:58] <amichair> Walzmyn: I found it the hard way, after upgrading to kubuntu lucid and getting the ubuntu splash instead
[23:58] <amichair> Apollonovich: I find it to be running better than karmic. There were/are a few hiccups, but no more than in previous upgrades.
[23:59] <Apollonovich> amichair: hrm...did you clean install or in place upgrade?
[23:59] <amichair> Apollonovich: upgrade path, going back to Intrepid


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[00:13] <cyberanger> Great, first OPM and now T-Mobile
[00:13] <cyberanger> I'm having one hell of a year
[00:20] <average_guy> It has been a big year for hacking. Read about XOR botnet?
[00:21] <average_guy> http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=18907
[00:22] <cyberanger> Yeah, and despite InfoSec growing (and I'd know, employed by one of many growing firms)
[00:22] <cyberanger> we're unfortunately only growing becuase human nature is reactionary
[00:22] <cyberanger> Nasty botnet too
[00:24] <average_guy> I cant believe how fast the world is putting things online.  It is NOT safe
[00:24] <average_guy> internet of things = doom
[00:26] <average_guy> just creating more and more attack vectors
[00:39] <cyberanger> It's more the lack of security, nobody is thinking about how to lock these things down
[00:39] <cyberanger> decentralize a little more
[00:39] <cyberanger> making code so complex that nobody audits it
[00:40] <cyberanger> And yeah, some things shouldn't be online
[00:40] <cyberanger> the Uconnect issue is merely becuase they didn't leave some things in a read only state
[00:40] <cyberanger> they could have done that in hardware
[00:57]  * wrst just set up Android pay yesterday
[01:06] <aedend> wrst, I have a question about the promo code. Do I paste the link you gave me or just the last part
[01:06] <aedend> btw, yoy'll need to re-post the link, I'm in another client and I dont have the same buffer
[01:08] <average_guy> I'm just an old guy I guess but I have never even gotten a credit card or bank account wrst.  It is just to easy to steal things electronically.  I want you to have to physically take it from me.
[01:09] <Unit193> ↑
[01:09] <wrst> https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=c6a3f5b71c6f
[01:10] <aedend> average_guy, uh?
[01:10] <wrst> aedend: ^^^ just click today it takes you to the page
[01:11] <average_guy> talkin bout wrst and his andriod pay aedend.  I can't do it
[01:11] <wrst> average_guy: i figure all I can do is be as safe as possible
[01:12] <wrst> And also I'm using a non approved card so it is using a fake number like Google wallet did
[01:15] <aedend> wrst, I entered the code... not sure what happens from there. Maybe you'll receive an email or something
[01:22] <wrst> I'm guessing so
[01:22] <wrst> Thank you!
[01:22] <aedend> you're welcome
[22:39] <aedend> What's the plans for tonight? Anyone doing anything special or exciting?
[22:46]  * aedend is staring to wonder about this channel..
[22:46] <Unit193> Wonder how?
[22:46] <Unit193> Sanity?  All bots?
[22:46] <Unit193> Idlers?  etc.
[22:47]  * Unit193 just re-poked someone about updating a Debian package (of course, providing the updated package too.)
[23:03] <aedend> Unit193, I think you have told me before, but what part of TN are you in?
[23:03] <Unit193> Very upper northern TN.
[23:04] <Unit193> So far north, it's usually called "Ohio"
[23:06] <aedend> got it
[23:07] <aedend> I've lived in a lot of places, never been to "northern tn"
[23:09] <Unit193> That's OK, nothing really happens much here, but thankfully it is cooler. :P
[23:11] <aedend> haha, pretend I had a witty comeback to that. If you live in Ohio how did you come across the Tn team?
[23:14] <Unit193> Looooong time ago I was searching for a bot, or the owner of a bot that used to be in here.  I joined, saw it wasn't here, was going to wait a few hours or days then /part, but cyberanger cought me and greeted me, then started chatting.  Turned out to be a really nice place, so stuck around.
[23:15] <Unit193> Long time = May 29 14:07:24 2011, so not really too long.
[23:19] <aedend> thats cool. So is Linux a hobby for you or do you use it for work
[23:20] <Unit193> Currently hobby.
[23:25] <aedend> Same here. Did you find a solution to the chroot problem the other night?
[23:43] <aedend> maybe that was someone else in the channel. I log in from different clients so its hard to keep up
[23:44] <aedend> I wish there was a way to log in from different clients but maintain the same "buffer"
[23:49] <Unit193> Quassel-core.
[23:49] <Unit193> Or, irssi!
[23:49] <Unit193> aedend: Wasn't me that I know of, I don't think.
[23:56] <aedend> Unit193, ok, I switch between my mac and virtual os's I have installed... I loose track of who said what
[23:57] <Unit193> ssh+screen+irssi, znc, quassel-core.  That's me, cyberanger and wrst. :P
[23:58] <aedend> Unit193, I dont get the ssh part. If I'm on a local machine using irssi inside of screen, where am I ssh'ing from or to??
[23:59] <aedend> so I need to setup znc somewhere on a remote server?
[23:59] <Unit193> The local machine isn't supposed to be the one running irssi. ;)


[01:41] <ahayzen> popey, you still about?
[03:50] <ahayzen> popey, when you have a moment can you build a new click of the remix, i've updated the readme in the usual place, thanks :)
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <mihir> Morning dholbach
[07:12] <dholbach> hi mihir
[07:12] <mihir> dholbach: hey :)
[08:11] <penk> karni: ping
[08:31] <karni> penk: pong
[08:31] <penk> karni: wrong channel
[09:31] <dpm> mzanetti, around for the reminders call?
[09:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Internet Day, and happy Cat Day! :-D
[10:24] <ahayzen> davmor2, if you want something to break there is a new music-app remix version here http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/20141029/trunk/com.ubuntu.music_1.3.latest_all.click :)
[10:25] <popey> ☻
[10:41] <vitimiti> Is there a way to make the width of a DatePicker be smaller? I am trying to use it inside a units.gu(48) wide page with a label on its left, and the DatePicker is going further to the right, but setting the width to something small doesn't take any effect
[10:47] <coderus> Promoting: whatsapp client for Ubuntu Touch: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/whatsapp-compatible-native-client-for-ubuntu-phone/x/8967673
[10:55] <davmor2> ahayzen: I'll break it for you in a bit then
[10:55] <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks :)
[11:14] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you know if http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/unity-8-scope-example-openclipart/ should be on http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/?
[12:28] <mzanetti> dpm: o/
[12:28] <mzanetti> dpm: was still in the airplane today morning
[12:31] <dpm> mzanetti, hey, I hope you had a good flight back! Did you enjoy the extra time in the US?
[12:34] <mzanetti> dpm: yeah. it was great
[12:34] <mzanetti> flight back was ok too
[12:34] <dpm> cool :)
[12:34] <mzanetti> although my feet really need some resting now
[12:39] <mzanetti> dpm: so... what up for the reminders app? did I miss something in the meeting today?
[12:39] <mzanetti> did Penk join?
[12:40] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hey ho. back home in bella italia or still on the road?
[12:40] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah, so Penk tested the URI handlers branch and it worked for him, so I asked him to review the MP and approve it. He hasn't had the chance to test the libqtevernote branch, but he will too
[12:41] <mzanetti> cool. I want to have a look at the uri handler branch before marging it. I think its ok, but it requires some hack so I want to keep an eye on it
[12:41] <dpm> mzanetti, I'm using Reminders from the libqtevernote branch and it seems to work for me. I've only added a comment about a regression I noticed, which might not even be related to the branch
[12:41] <mzanetti> ok, will look at it
[12:42] <dpm> essentially about how reminders are ordered by date in the Reminders tab
[12:42] <mzanetti> ah... hmm...
[12:42] <mzanetti> I think rpadovani has a mighty sorting branch upcoming too
[12:42] <dpm> ok
[12:42] <zubozrout> popey: Hi, so since I can't use QML3D as it is abandoned, is there something I can develop in? What is the status of 3D acceleration on Ubuntu devices (under Mir)? I wonder why there is still no SDL Mir demo, at least I don't know about one - like SuperTux :), which would be fun :), there is SuperTux for Android. And from hat I remember, SDL should
[12:42] <zubozrout>  support Mir.
[12:43] <dpm> other than that, I've put everything we discussed at the sprint in bugs, and sorted them in milestones https://launchpad.net/reminders-app/+milestones
[12:44] <mzanetti> cool
[12:45] <mzanetti> yeah... we need to do some final polishing now... while it is quite nice there's still the last bit missing to make it really good
[12:47] <mzanetti> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+bug/1379735
[12:47] <mzanetti> dpm: I don't think that's an API thing
[12:47] <mzanetti> but I might have just missed it
[12:48] <dpm> mzanetti, oh, if it's not available in the API, I guess we cannot implement it
[12:49] <mzanetti> dpm: well, better double check... but I didn't figure yet how it works
[12:49] <dpm> ok
[13:00] <popey> zubozrout: libsdl works on the device..
[13:00] <popey> zubozrout: so yes, that would be awesome. be good to start with something simple and work up
[13:05] <zubozrout> popey: So it is currently possible to create something in SDL which will work - that is awesome. Sadly, I haven't ever developed anything in SDL and porting this https://github.com/SuperTuxTeam/supertux (or anything) is sadly too much out of my possibilities.
[13:05] <popey> ok
[13:07] <mzanetti> dpm: I could imagine that they added favorites in the api but haven't added it yet to the SDK and/or docs. Might want to check with your POC@Evernote
[13:08] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah
[13:43] <popey> gcollura: did you know saucy bacon fails to start on device?
[13:44] <popey> gcollura: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8733207/
[13:44] <gcollura> popey, I know, I have a completely new version almost ready here
[13:44] <popey> ah okay ☻
[13:45] <gcollura> I don't know when I'll upload this update though, it needs some small bugfixes..
[13:56] <rpadovani> mzanetti, o/ I have my plane this afternoon, I'll be back in Europe tomorrow at 9am UTC+1, but I think I'll take the weekend to relax, so see you on monday :-)
[14:30] <dpm> have a nice flight rpadovani!
[16:24] <patriciadavila> Hi nik90: regarding the Bug #1387231 report, the alarm was deleted and still rang
[16:25] <patriciadavila> I can't reproduce it but first I disabled it and it rang and after that I deleted it and rang again
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: ah...the issue of an alarm ringing when it is disabled started recently ( a week or two ago) and is in the process of being fixed
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: I am however unable to reproduce an alarm ringing after it has been disabled
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: although can I ask if after you deleted the alarm, did you see that alarm listed in the indicator datetime at the top?
[16:27] <patriciadavila> nik90: I understand and I just want to make sure that you are considering the case where the alarm's been deleted and still rings as well
[16:27] <nik90> since indicator datetime is the one which does the actual triggering of alarms
[16:27] <nik90> I will try to reproduce it. I am using the ubuntu rtm stable images #5 atm
[16:27] <patriciadavila> No, it wasn't listed on the date&time indicator menu, nor on the alarms screen on the clock app
[16:28] <nik90> ack
[16:28] <patriciadavila> thanks!
[17:38] <karni> ahayzen: Would you possibly know the reasons behind problems of playing back video with MediaPlayer+VideoOutput? I don't think many folks are actually making use of it, so I have little people to ask around.
[17:39] <ahayzen> karni, i know about/used MediaPlayer+AudioOutput... jhodapp is probably the guy to talk to
[17:40] <karni> ahayzen: thank you
[17:40] <jhodapp> karni, are you trying your to play video in a new app?
[17:40] <karni> jhodapp: any pointers for me? yes sir
[17:40] <ahayzen> karni, or just look at the code for mediaplayer-app
[17:40] <karni> ahayzen: good suggestion as well
[17:40] <jhodapp> karni, yes, take a look at the media-hub output at /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/media-hub.log
[17:40]  * karni looks
[17:41] <jhodapp> karni, most likely media-hub is denying your app access to the media file
[17:41] <karni> indeed..
[17:41] <jhodapp> karni, there are some strict access rules for confined apps
[17:41] <karni> jhodapp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735680/
[17:42] <karni> jhodapp: What's my next step then? I have content_exchange, content_exchange_source, audio and video policy groups
[17:42] <jhodapp> karni, where is the video file that you're trying to play (where on the filesystem)?
[17:43] <karni> jhodapp: ↑ as in the paste, it is file:///home/phablet/.config/com.ubuntu.<snip>/<snip>/downloads/4029_1414576245
[17:43] <karni> that's a video recorded with krillin
[17:43] <jhodapp> karni, ah ok, yeah that definitely isn't part of the access paths
[17:43] <jhodapp> karni, try putting it in ~/Videos for a test
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: hrm. okay. if that works, then you suggest I start downloading my stuff into ~/Videos .. ? :S
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: the fact I can't use a component to playback my own file is quite strange, to be honest.
[17:44] <jhodapp> karni, no, it may be a valid media-hub bug...I would ask jdstrand to advise
[17:44] <karni> sounds good
[17:44] <karni> I'll try it, then talk to Jamie
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: thanks a bunch!
[17:45] <jhodapp> karni, np...and those rules aren't final yet...they're hard coded but need to be redone and integrated with the trust store
[17:46] <karni> jhodapp: I'm not much familiar with the trust store (although I've heard of trusted session)
[17:46] <jhodapp> karni, you can see the if/else tree of access permissions here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/media-hub/trunk/view/head:/src/core/media/player_skeleton.cpp#L144
[17:47] <karni> jhodapp: :O
[17:47] <karni> thank you :D
[17:47] <ahayzen> jhodapp, but that is part of the local apps storage why can't it access? for example can you play from the HubIncoming dir ?
[17:48] <ahayzen> oh you recommended talking to Jamie :)
[17:48] <jhodapp> karni, actually it seems like this should be matching: uri.find(std::string(".cache/" + pkgname + "/")) != std::string::npos
[17:48] <jhodapp> oh wait, .config
[17:48] <karni> right
[17:48] <jhodapp> not .cache
[17:48] <karni> oooh
[17:49] <jhodapp> karni, you should use .cache
[17:49] <karni> well, one more reason to move to .cache lol
[17:49] <jhodapp> yep, that's the problem
[17:49] <karni> jhodapp: ok. I think we can do it :)
[17:49] <karni> jhodapp: appreciated!
[17:49] <jhodapp> excellent, you shouldn't have any more problems from here
[17:49] <jhodapp> np!
[17:49] <jhodapp> let me know if you see anything else weird
[17:52] <jdstrand> karni: so, there are access rules for .local/share/<pkgname> and .cache/<pkgname>, but your path is .config/<pkgname>
[17:53] <jdstrand> karni: .config seems the wrong place to put DLC, no?
[17:53] <jdstrand> (which is why we said .cache and .local/share
[17:53] <jdstrand> )
[17:53] <jdstrand> oh, I see, you already discussed that
[17:53] <jdstrand> nm
[17:54] <karni> jdstrand: yes, thank you. we'll move to .cache (as I previously suggested, now we _have_ to do it ;D)
[17:54] <karni> jhodapp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735786/
[17:54] <karni> jhodapp: that's because our app doesn't have access to ~/Videos, right?
[17:54] <karni> I'll just try with .cache to confirm :)
[17:55] <jhodapp> karni, yes, only music and camera apps have access
[17:55] <jdstrand> right, you don't have read access to Videos
[17:55] <jhodapp> and unconfined apps of course
[17:55] <karni> Makes sense.
[19:30] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/updatedRole/+merge/238960 (thanks to d.c. airport wireless): we don't have tests for notes order, I think they are random failures
[20:20] <popey> nik90: i had a thought and wasn't sure whether to file it as a bug. When you miss an alarm on android (i.e. you never acknowledge it, but maybe sleep through) it shows in the clock as a "missed alarm" rather than just one in the past...
[20:20] <popey> should we have a "missed " alarm?
[20:29] <ghostmars919> Ciao a tutti
[20:30] <ghostmars919> vorrei iniziare sviluppare per ubuntu touch, c' è qualcuno che mi può dare una mano ad orientarmi un attimo?
[20:33] <ghostmars919> nessuno?
[20:39] <gcollura> ghostmars919, dimmi :)
[20:40] <ghostmars919> da dove posso reperire una buona documentazione?
[20:40] <ghostmars919> ho già installato l Ubuntu SDK
[20:42] <gcollura> ghostmars919, allora per la documentazione fai sempre riferimento a http://developer.ubuntu.com, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/ qua trovi qualche tutorial per scaldarti le mani, qua le tutte le API disponibili http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/development/
[20:42] <ghostmars919> okay grazie mille..
[20:42] <gcollura> ti consiglio di installare tramite ppa se non sei su utopic, la versione 14.10 dell'ubuntu sdk
[20:43] <ghostmars919> dovrei averla già installata
[20:44] <gcollura> ghostmars919, fai anche riferimento alle core apps, su come vengono usati i componenti o quali sono i trucchi che potrebbero servirti :)
[20:44] <ghostmars919> con quale linguaggio mi consigli di sviluppare?
[20:45] <ghostmars919> okay ho visto ora che mi hai linkato le guide per il qml
[23:37] <brendand> popey, i can haz new music app click?
[23:37] <ahayzen> brendand, http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt
[23:37] <popey> brendand: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt
[23:37] <popey> ooh, beat me!
[23:37] <brendand> snap!
[23:37] <ahayzen> win
[23:37]  * ahayzen may have "music" on highlight
[23:38] <popey> hah
[23:38] <popey> i have marmite on hilight
[23:38] <ahayzen> haha
[23:39] <popey> i also have irregardless on hilight so I can berate people for using a word that doesn't exist
[23:39] <ahayzen> wow lol
[23:39] <popey> ooh, i found a bug on the way out tonight
[23:40] <ahayzen> popey, what?
[23:48] <popey> ahayzen: start playing music, left the house, unity crashed, music still playing, unity eventually started, music still playing, start music app.. sits on startup/spinner. Had to kill it and restart
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, yeah that is across two separate media-hub bugs
[23:49] <popey> \o/
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, bug 1380848 and...
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, ... bug 1315566
[23:50] <ahayzen> popey, a mixture of those two right? ... and btw i had the same earlier unity8 seems to be crashing alot lately
[23:50] <popey> yeah
[23:50] <popey> known problem