[00:00] <sythe> TBH.
[00:00] <yorwos> ar45 : really ?
[00:00] <AR45_> yorwos: yes really
[00:00] <yorwos> thanx for the tip ;) will look into it
[00:00] <AR45_> yorwos: cpagrip.com
[00:01] <ObrienDave> let's see, I d/l a decent OS, make a GAZILLION changes, and then wonder why it does not work the way I expect it to.
[00:01] <nevermoreraven> should i kill myself?
[00:01] <AR45_> nevermoreraven: probably
[00:01] <nevermoreraven> why?
[00:01] <ObrienDave> please do
[00:02] <yorwos> hm , maybe i could make a page with a movie i make for pple to see and get paid through that ;)
[00:03] <iksf> why does everyone like elementaryos so much latel
[00:03] <ObrienDave> because it's simple and works
[00:03] <iksf> the packages are so ancient compared to debian or ubuntu though
[00:03] <dexter93> iksf, it looks like a mac and it's free
[00:04] <iksf> how do you enable a location bar in nautilus btw keep forgetting to change that
[00:04] <iksf> really annoying to me
[00:05] <AR45_> Can someone assist me with setting up wireless driver on ubuntu 14.04 on MacBook Pro 2010
[00:05] <iksf> please don't say gconf im done with that
[00:06] <daftykins> AR45_: broadcom device?
[00:06] <dexter93> iksf, dconf?
[00:06] <ObrienDave> gconf ;)
[00:06] <ObrienDave> dconf ;)
[00:06]  * ObrienDave covers all bases ;P
[00:06] <AR45_> daftykins: yes please private message me
[00:07] <daftykins> AR45_: no, we do not PM here. help remains in channel to benefit others
[00:07] <daftykins> !broadcom | AR45_
[00:07] <AR45_> daftykins: Listen! I'm on my Ubuntu LiveUSB ATM! Which for some funny reason picks up my WIFI NETWORK.
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: this is a good thing.
[00:08] <AR45_> daftykins: BUT GUESS WHAT? After  installed and my computer rebooted from the HD. There's NO WIFI NETWORK.
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: if the installed version does not, install again but disable 'update whilst installing'
[00:08] <daftykins> AR45_: stop using caps please else i will stop talking to you
[00:09] <AR45_> daftykins: So... I got back on the LiveUSB!
[00:09] <hack13> I am having issues with filezilla not looking correctly in ubuntu unity, I don't know what settings to teak to fix this: http://i.imgur.com/fpuuh8v.png I boxed in red the graphics glitches that are happening. I have ATI 6770 and using fglx-update driver.
[00:10] <AR45_> daftykins: & downloaded `bcmwl-kernel-source` but when I tried to install it needed dkms!
[00:10] <AR45_> daftykins: So now I'm back on the `LiveUSB` and I downloaded dkms.
[00:11] <AR45_> daftykins: but I think I figured it out!
[00:12] <genii> !apt-offline
[00:12]  * genii smacks the bot
[00:12] <daftykins> AR45_: so why are you asking for help if you already have a legitimate approach to solve the problem?
[00:13] <AR45_> daftykins: because I have no idea what im doing?
[00:14] <daftykins> AR45_: you could follow what i suggested, then
[00:15] <AR45_> daftykins: You just sent me a link. With commands to run on a device that has no internet.
[00:15] <stianhj> AR45_: do you have a ethernet cable to get the files you need while not in live?
[00:15] <daftykins> AR45_: ... but you said it works from a live session. you can save a file and transfer it.
[00:15] <AR45_> stianhj: No that's the problem!
[00:15] <daftykins> AR45_: if you're going to be awkward about following things then i'm going to struggle to want to continue.
[00:16] <stianhj> AR45_: or maybe an android device where you can use usb tethering? don't know about iphones but android usb tethering works out of the box for me
[00:16] <AR45_> stianhj: I have a flash drive
[00:16] <genii> !offline
[00:17] <genii> Meh, Synaptic
[00:17] <ObrienDave> it works ;P
[00:18] <AR45_> stianhj: I download http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/fakeroot
[00:18] <AR45_> stianhj: because it's needed for bcmwl
[00:18] <daftykins> i still say reinstall with updates disabled, see lovely working wifi, then update manually
[00:20] <AR45_> daftykins: here is my plan http://imgur.com/yF3PY5d
[00:21] <stianhj> AR45_: kinda agree with daftykins, it's been a long while since if done what your're about to do, but i seem to recall it not being pleasant
[00:21] <stianhj> if you have another machine online, that helps
[00:22] <stianhj> AR45_: but you're pretty far along, so dpkg -i some stuff and see what happens
[00:27] <daftykins> AR45_: out of interest, have you kept OS X beside or is this the only OS?
[00:27] <AR45> crap fakeroot has dependencies!
[00:28] <AR45> Oh shoot! hahah it worked!
[00:28] <AR45> I'm so legend!
[00:28] <daftykins> AR45: out of interest, have you kept OS X beside or is this the only OS?
[00:29] <ashley01> Hello, does Ubuntu 14.04 use Mir or X by default?
[00:29] <AR45> daftykins: wiped it by accident
[00:29] <ashley01> I don't know how to check
[00:29] <AR45> daftykins: time to figure that part out now..
[00:29] <daftykins> ashley01: mir is experimental and not enabled yet.
[00:30] <daftykins> !mir
[00:30] <daftykins> ugh factoid update required
[00:30] <ashley01> thanks
[00:32] <AR45> daftykins: how can i check what graphics card driver i need?
[00:32] <ashley01> AR45: do you use nvidia or amd gpu?
[00:32] <ashley01> and you can go to Software & Updates, it has a tab for drivers
[00:32] <ashley01> 'additional drivers' iirc
[00:33] <daftykins> AR45: ^ same as i'd have said :>
[00:33] <ashley01> i use an ATI card so i get a choice for 1 open-source and 2 proprietary
[00:33] <AR45> ashley01: yes but when i click on them and hit apply changes they don't go, that was the problem with my wireless
[00:34] <daftykins> AR45: tell us what you're being offered. nvidia?
[00:34] <AR45> daftykins: yes nvidia
[00:35] <daftykins> AR45: ok open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "apt-cache search nvidia | pastebinit" and share the URL here
[00:36] <AR45> okay one second so i can will open irc on desktop
[00:38] <daftykins> just type it out by hand, they're short URLs
[00:39] <AR45> daftykins: graphic drivers crashed my computer it had to restart
[00:40] <daftykins> AR45: as in the currently in use driver, or?
[00:40] <daftykins> could do with more information
[00:40] <AR45> daftykins: the currently in use one
[00:40] <daftykins> what made you identify it as the culprit?
[00:42] <AR45> daftykins: the currently in use one
[00:42] <daftykins> what made you identify it as the culprit?
[00:42] <AR45> because the screen freezes completely
[00:42] <daftykins> so it could actually be the kernel as a whole?
[00:43] <AR45> daftykins: it just froze and crashed again...
[00:43] <daftykins> you're not giving me any new information
[00:43] <AR45> daftykins: not sure but things are a bit slow and faulty
[00:46] <AR45> https://i.imgur.com/RpvhhCo.jpg
[00:46] <daftykins> AR45: ok still waiting on the output of the commands shared before, if X keeps failing drop to a TTY instead maybe
[00:46] <AR45> daftykins: look
[00:47] <daftykins> AR45: that is not a pastebin to available nvidia packages
[00:47] <AR45> daftykins: do you think its the kernel?
[00:47] <daftykins> i have no way of knowing until you try some things
[00:48] <daftykins> i'm actually going to have to go, i don't really have time unless you can run things as i say them
[00:51] <AR45_> daftykins: Okay on my desktop.. What would you like me to run?
[00:52] <AR45_> daftykins: My cell phone IRC app seemed to be delaying msgs in/out
[00:52] <daftykins> AR45_: i'm sorry i'm out, i typed commands ages ago
[00:56] <AR45_> daftykins: don't go man it crashed again
[00:56] <AR45_> daftykins: what command do you want to see
[00:56] <AR45_> ?
[00:57] <thurstylark> Is there a way to create a bash one liner that runs two different commands, but allows the output from only one command to the terminal? I tried "commandone & commandtwo" and got the output of both.
[00:58] <AR45_> daftykins: my friend
[00:58] <AR45_> daftykins: I am here
[01:09] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Put "&> /dev/null" after the command you don't want to show on the console.
[01:10] <rypervenche> thurstylark: And put a semi-colon after the first command.
[01:12] <thurstylark> rypervenche: So if I want the first command to be silent, "command1 &> /dev/null; command2"
[01:12] <thurstylark> sound right?
[01:12] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Yep^^ Some older bash versions won't be able to take the &> part, but yours should be fine.
[01:13] <rypervenche> thurstylark: Oh, you'll probably want the & actually instead of ; if you want them to run simultaneously.
[01:13] <dstarh> I need to write a find command that finds all directories over a certain age under a specific path, removes all of the files within the directory and then does an rmdir on the directory itself
[01:14] <thurstylark> rypervenche: Alrighty. Yeah, I'm on 14.04, so it should handle it.
[01:14] <thurstylark> rypervenche: thanks!
[01:14] <dstarh> I've tried the following https://gist.github.com/dstarh/5dd791c24ddb0cdb54a8 and no dice
[01:15] <dstarh> * updated to show output
[01:16] <rypervenche> dstarh: You can do it all in one command, but that is not the correct way.
[01:16] <dstarh> rypervenche: I know i can rm -rf {} but I've been given instructions not to do so
[01:17] <dstarh> i need to specificaly empty the directory then rmdir it
[01:17] <rypervenche> /usr/bin/find /pgbackups/backups/ -mtime +4 -type d -name "nbackup_*" -exec /bin/echo /bin/rm -rf {} \;
[01:17] <rypervenche> dstarh: Why?
[01:18] <dstarh> boss doesn't want cron jobs doing rm -rf
[01:18] <dstarh> regardless of the why, is it possible
[01:19] <rypervenche> It's just as dangerous as doing it your way. Yes it is, but running an asterisk like that, I would say is more dangerous.
[01:20] <dstarh> the asterisk started out as *.dat.gz and *.dat.  There are only 2 types of files within each directory
[01:21] <dstarh> i'm assuming the /bin/rm {}/* is not expanding correctly or something thus getting the file not found errors
[01:23] <rypervenche> I do not believe that is a valid way of doing it, nor would I recommend using an asterisk to remove files. I would tell you to use the -delete option in find. You may have to pipe find into another find command once you have found the directories that you need. Are they only one level deep or are there other directories within them?
[01:25] <dstarh> only one level deep
[01:27] <thurstylark> How do I print what shell is running?
[01:27] <thurstylark> Like, if I'm running bash, what can I run to print that it's running bash?
[01:29] <rypervenche> thurstylark: echo $SHELL
[01:31] <testerer> Does streamup.com work with ubuntu?  It tells me I need to update flash player although I installed the most recent flashplugin.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:31] <rypervenche> dstarh: Really, not using rm -rf is going to make this very hacky. You'll need to run a find command to get a list of directories, then pipe it into a for loop and run another find command to delete the files within each of those directories, and then rmdir the directories.
[01:32] <testerer> i installed the latest libflashplayer.so i mean.
[01:34] <rypervenche> dstarh: Your boss needs to understand that there is no problem with running an rm -rf, so long as your find options are very specific. It's less optimal doing it his way simply because he is afraid.  Suicide is never part of the mission. "Front towards enemy."
[02:00] <hipitihop> I have finally allowed update manager to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 process went fine until reboot to complete. Now I am left at Mythbuntu splash/progress screen, no alternate tty sessions, and I can't ssh in either. Suggestions ?
[02:07] <daftykins> !nomodeset | hipitihop
[02:08] <daftykins> hipitihop: i'd be willing to bet any proprietary graphics drivers have not been built for your running kernel, assuming it's even booting
[02:09] <hipitihop> daftykins, prior to upgrade I installed latest 3.16 kernel and all was fine. I had also booted from 14.04 mythbuntu live cd and also was fine, does any of that alter the diagnosis ?
[02:10] <hipitihop> daftykins, although afaik 14.04 standard kernel is 3.13
[02:11] <daftykins> hipitihop: nope and yes, 3.13
[02:12] <hipitihop> daftykins, also final bit of extra info, this is am MSI H97Iac mobo with i5s onboard intel HD graphics
[02:12] <daftykins> hipitihop: ah i see, SSH'able on boot?
[02:13] <hipitihop> daftykins, I can ping but ssh refused
[02:14] <daftykins> hipitihop: i'd boot a live session again, mount the volume... read some logs.
[02:14] <daftykins> hipitihop: truth be told though, i'd nuke it.
[02:16] <hipitihop> daftykins, yeh nuke is preffered but I have a handful of services on which I was really trying to avoid having to rebuild squeezeserver, fusionspbx, ossec server etc
[02:17] <hipitihop> daftykins, also have existing mythtv recordings on same drive
[02:17] <AssociateX> Hello all! Anyone here use Kik messenger on Ubuntu? I have not found any useful links on how to use it yet. Thank you.
[02:19] <daftykins> hipitihop: on a nice sensible separate partition/disk from the OS though right? right? :)
[02:20] <Guest38777> join #sexo
[02:21] <AssociateX>  Guest38777 has quit (Client Quit) but we still have  Guest10736 Guest2647 Guest30141 Guest32601__ Guest44386 Guest49899 Guest58004 Guest59421 Guest72470 Guest7367 Guest81126 Guest9800
[02:22] <daftykins> AssociateX: feel free to report it in #ubuntu-ops - but they're not necessarily all bots or miscreants
[02:22] <hipitihop> daftykins, yes it seems the standard myth install sets up an ext3 boot part and an extended parts with swap and xfs
[02:23] <daftykins> hipitihop: that's not enough to separate media though, hmm. anywho logs should shed light! do you get GRUB? try another kernel also.
[02:24] <hipitihop> daftykins, nonetheless I'm not sure where the db is kept ... grrr this is turning out to be more work then I wanted... will see if there is a previous kernel in grub menu
[02:28] <kuld> hi i uploaded my site files and gave permission to anonymous users allowed to read the files but i cant see any pictures when i go to my website. Anything i can do to fix this?
[02:29] <kuld> help?
[02:29] <daftykins> you're in the wrong channel
[02:29] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server or find the channel for apache
[02:31] <hipitihop> daftykins, I tried a <ctrlr><alt><delete> on the mythbuntu splash/progress and the boot continued and I'm so leave with me to investigate remaining issues. Thanks for trying
[02:33] <kuld> \dafty
[02:33] <kuld> no one answers me there
[02:33] <daftykins> and in the apache channel?
[02:34] <daftykins> kuld: the problem is i can already see that what you've said is totally wrong, configuring your site's permissions has nothing to do with 'anonymous access' - so you really need to put the time in to learn how to operate a web server properly
[02:34] <daftykins> kuld: you couldn't just come here the day your site and system gets hacked and expect someone to piece it all back together for you :)
[02:34] <somsip> kuld: what's the URL
[02:34] <kuld> how do i pm
[02:34] <kuld> someone
[02:35] <somsip> kuld: you don't unless they invite you to
[02:35] <kuld> ok
[02:35] <kuld> the site is ruda.ca
[02:35] <kuld> it isnt showing any images
[02:36] <kuld> ive tried fixing this for 2 days now
[02:36] <kyonsalt> I got a strange problem about swap: ubuntu 14 server. device-mapper: ioctl: Unable to change name on mapped device cryptswap1_unformatted to one that already exists: cryptswap1. so the server can't do swap on.
[02:36] <kyonsalt> I got a strange problem about swap: ubuntu 14 server. device-mapper: ioctl: Unable to change name on mapped device cryptswap1_unformatted to one that already exists: cryptswap1. so the server can't do swap on.
[02:36] <Guest39573> Anyone have any proplems with pipelight, a silverlight alternitive?
[02:37] <Guest39573> join
[02:37] <daftykins> kuld: http://ruda.ca/images/u233-r.png
[02:37] <daftykins> that file doesn't exist or your permissions are wrong
[02:37] <somsip> kuld: You don't have permission to access /images/ on this server.
[02:37] <kuld> ok
[02:37] <kuld> hold on
[02:38] <kuld> try again
[02:39] <daftykins> nope.
[02:39] <somsip> kuld: no, you try again
[02:39] <kuld> wtf
[02:39] <kuld> how do i give permission
[02:39] <kuld> it says 777 on filezilla
[02:39] <daftykins> kuld: like i said, you need to learn how to do this properly
[02:39] <daftykins> you should not be 777'ing files.
[02:39] <kuld> 744* i eman
[02:39] <kuld> mean
[02:39] <daftykins> there's also ownership as well as permissions
[02:40] <kuld> ..
[02:40] <daftykins> ellipses do not communicate a question
[02:41] <kuld> dafty do i have to enter some command into ubuntu server to give permissions
[02:41] <daftykins> kuld: you're still ignoring my comments on web server administration. you need to study this and learn for yourself
[02:41] <MaineGyrl99> hi all
[02:42] <daftykins> else you won't have a clue how to fix it in future
[02:42] <daftykins> hello
[02:42] <kuld> ive been trying is there a tutorial i can read?
[02:42] <daftykins> MaineGyrl99: do you have a question?
[02:43] <daftykins> kuld: use the documentation website for the web server you're using.
[02:55] <kuld> dafty
[02:55] <daftykins> that's me.
[02:55] <kuld> how do i enable editing  when i do sudo vi  /etc/vsftpd.conf in ubuntu server
[02:56] <daftykins> i don't use vi.
[02:56] <kuld> o
[02:56] <kuld> what do you use
[02:56] <daftykins> nano
[02:56] <kuld> ok ill try that
[02:56] <somsip> kuld: you change to editing mode by pressing an editing command key
[02:56] <kuld> what key is that
[02:56] <kuld> <---noob
[02:56] <Svetlana> "i" but vi is hard, better to start with nano as it has labels for commands
[02:57] <somsip> kuld: there are many depending on what you want to do - i a r R c c s S. Don't use vi if you don't know.
[02:58] <kuld> what do i change so it shows images
[02:59] <daftykins> i already told you you need to learn to web server admin correctly, not get answers handed to you
[03:00] <jtri> hello, du is failing on large directory, any ideas?  ls -la fails too, both return zero
[03:01] <kuld> give me a hint lol
[03:02] <auscompgeek> kuld: if you had the documentation open you wouldn't need a "hint"
[03:02] <kuld> i have
[03:03] <kuld> im using ubuntu pdf file
[03:03] <kuld> is this the right thing?
[03:03] <kuld> To allow users with a shell of /usr/sbin/nologin access to FTP, but have no shell access, edit /etc/ shells adding the nologin shell: # /etc/shells: valid login shells /bin/csh /bin/sh /usr/bin/es /usr/bin/ksh /bin/ksh /usr/bin/rc /usr/bin/tcsh /bin/tcsh /usr/bin/esh /bin/dash /bin/bash /bin/rbash /usr/bin/screen /usr/sbin/nologin
[03:04] <kamkam> exit
[03:05] <kuld> do i have to edit this 2.3.  D
[03:16] <auscompgeek> kamkam: just curious, what exactly is firewalk?
[03:18] <rypervenche> http://packetfactory.openwall.net/projects/firewalk/
[03:18] <rypervenche> A tool for determining a firewall's rule set
[03:22] <somsip> auscompgeek: yes, and well OT here
[03:23] <auscompgeek> somsip: indeed.
[03:23] <kamkam> rypervenche: thank a lot :)
[03:24] <kuld> dafty
[03:24] <daftykins> no.
[03:25] <kuld> i did sudo chmod -R 644 /var/www/html/
[03:25] <kuld> would this work?
[03:26] <kamkam> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-pc-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-pc' not recognized
[03:26] <kamkam> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-pc-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-pc' not recognized
[03:26] <n-iCe> hello guys, when will be the new ubuntu version released?
[03:26] <somsip> !14.10 | n-iCe
[03:27] <n-iCe> Yes, but when, day :p
[03:27] <somsip> n-iCe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[03:27] <n-iCe> thanks!
[03:27] <farva> good afternoon everyone
[03:28] <n-iCe> 26
[03:28] <n-iCe> I have been a fedora user, will the change surprise me?
[03:29] <farva> I need to transfer files from one dedi to another, I have all the login info-but how do I go about the commands?
[03:29] <farva> I did this once and just can't recall how
[03:29] <somsip> n-iCe: install the live DVD and find out for yourself
[03:29] <somsip> farva: dedi?
[03:29] <tuxbrave> Has anyone set up Xen Hypervisor before using a interface bridge to assigning an external IP to a Virtual Machine for instace my Laptop ip is <IP_ADDRESS>, I would the machine running in Xen Hypervisor had the IP <IP_ADDRESS>.  I am using an Ubuntu 14.04 with an Wifi dongle (wlan3). Any help is appreciated.
[03:29] <farva> dedicated server
[03:30] <somsip> farva: scp I would imagine
[03:30] <farva> could you give me an example? I am 2 months in on linux commands
[03:30] <somsip> farva: scp user@host1:/path/to/file user@host2:/destination/path/
[03:31] <farva> do I need to put in a password there anywhere?
[03:31] <Snake2k> n-iCe: I'd say stay with 14.04... It's stable, unless you want cutting-edge, then go with the most latest version (which can be a pain to maintain for people).
[03:31] <somsip> farva: when it prompts you
[03:31] <farva> ahh gotcha
[03:31] <farva> last question, how do I set my DNS again? There is a file I can edit...
[03:31] <somsip> farva: or ssh to one server (ssh user@host1) and scp /path/to/local/file user@host2:/destination/)
[03:32] <farva> okay =]
[03:38] <AR45_> switched to propertary nvidia drivers, rebooted and now my screen is just black.. but the computer is on
[03:39] <gartral> AR45_: what card?
[03:40] <AR45_> gartral: tell me commnd to run in terminal and I'll let you know
[03:41] <gartral> AR45_: lspci | grep VGA
[03:42] <AR45_> gartral: http://sprunge.us/LGHT
[03:44] <farva> found the DNS setting I was looking for /etc/hosts
[03:48] <gartral> AR45_: ahh... run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:49] <yufw> why my setxkbmap command in .profile is not taking effect?
[03:50] <gartral> AR45_: that won't give any output, once it's done run rm -rf ./.Xauthority and then reboot with sudo reboot
[03:51] <AR45_> gartral: http://sprunge.us/HaUa
[03:51] <farva> somsip: I am not getting this right, I need to copy entire directories and all containing files
[03:51] <AR45_> gartral: Perhaps I should mention that my screen goes black and I can't use my computer at all. I had to boot the LiveUSB
[03:51] <gartral> AR45_: blank paste
[03:51] <somsip> farva: -R for recursive (man scp for details)
[03:51] <farva> and it is telling me connection denied
[03:52] <gartral> AR45_: oh.. is this your only computer?
[03:52] <somsip> farva: make sure you can ssh to each host individually to check your user/pass first
[03:52] <farva> ssh farva@host:/home/farva/testserver/minecraft -R farva@host:/home/farva/minecraft
[03:52] <AR45_> gartral: yes how do I access the terminal before boot?
[03:52] <farva> I can connect to ssh on my filezilla
[03:52] <AR45_> gartral: I have irc on my cellphone we can communicate
[03:52] <farva> if that is what you mean
[03:53] <somsip> farva: I posted the ssh commmand earlier. I don't know hoe filezilla works with ssh. If you use the command line you know what you are entering
[03:53] <gartral> AR45_: you don't but you SHOULD be ablt to hit ctrl-alt-F2 and get to a terminal-only session where you can log in and run those two commands
[03:54] <AR45_> gartral: will give it a try
[03:55] <gartral> AR45_: switch off to your phone, too, for good measure
[03:55] <farva> somsip:  how do I specify the port? it is trying to connect me to 22, but my ssh port is not default
[03:56] <farva> I tried ssh name@host:port
[03:56] <farva> and that got me no where
[03:56] <somsip> farva: man scp. you use -P for port
[03:57] <farva> I hate to ask for examples, but I don't know anything about this stuff...I am in way over my head could you be more specific please? I am aftraid of messing things up badly =[
[03:57] <SASDOE> hey all, how can I create an optional VPN interface? optionnal as in I would like all services to run by default on eth0 and only have specific services running behind VPN?
[03:58] <somsip> farva: then read the manual.
[03:58] <farva> its like reading latin man, I don't know this stuff. I understaind what it is trying to tell me, but I don't know the order
[03:58] <SASDOE> On ubuntu server. Last time I tried all traffic was sent to tun0, which is not what I want
[03:59] <SchrodingersScat> farva: you said you had used the command, try: history | grep -i servername | more ##where servername is whatever you were connecting to, maybe you'll find the command?
[04:00] <gartral> farva: a good place to start is man man, it's a manual that tells you how to read the manuals
[04:00] <AR45> gartral:
[04:00] <somsip> farva: if you want to know how to access a port, type 'man scp' then use / to search and type 'port' and it shows to use -P.
[04:00] <Guest18447> send list of programs to download
[04:00] <farva> we transfered files using wget cuz my old host didn't want to give us ftp access
[04:00] <AR45> gartral: couldn't get in like that will do a clean install
[04:00] <gartral> AR45: wait
[04:01] <farva> ty guys for the useful info =]
[04:01] <somsip> farva: then you ssh to one and wget from the other. But that's the first time you've said these were files served by a web server
[04:01] <AR45> gartral: also im on a macbook pro 7,1 (2010)
[04:01] <gartral> AR45: do you have something like a 30-second wait before the system actually "boots up"
[04:01] <farva> maybe I was not clear, I have a dedicated server, and I am upgrading to a new machine, I run ubuntu on both
[04:01] <AR45> gartral: yes
[04:02] <Guest18447> photoshop for linux what should i use
[04:02] <somsip> farva: dedicated servers can be anything. I still think you should use scp though
[04:02] <farva> yea, reading up on it, it seems the safest option
[04:03] <xangua> Guest18447: gimp, pinta, krita maybe
[04:05] <gartral> AR45: at the white screen start holding left shift.. you'll (hopefully) be presented with a GRUB page, drop down to to the Recovery Mode entry and try that...
[04:05] <MACscr> my 12.04.5 LTS server has a 3.2 kernel, but im being told by zimbra that 3.0 to 3.9 isnt supported and supposedly canonical doesnt even support them anymore and its only 3.13 and above as of august. If thats the case, why isnt apt-get upgrade seeing the newer kernel?  All the instructions im seeing for updating the kernel are for installing the raring or another releases kernel on an precise syste
[04:05] <MACscr> m and thats obviously not correct. Suggestions?
[04:05] <farva> well...the manual is pretty useless to me, I don't know what it is talking about with protocols or what I am supposed to deduce from the synopsis...I know you guys are trying to teach my how to fish, but I don't know how to tie the hook on the line here
[04:06] <farva> so I understand scp name@host:dir/from name@host:dir/to
[04:06] <farva> but how do I add the port to that?
[04:06] <xangua> MACscr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[04:06] <xangua> you can already install the trusty kernel/video drivers
[04:07] <somsip> farva: scp -P {port number} Are both ports different?
[04:07] <farva> they are the same
[04:07] <MACscr> my bad, didnt mention that its a virtual machien with a virtual kernel
[04:07] <MACscr> 3.2.0-31-virtual irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:36:36 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:07] <MACscr> so the enablement stack wouldnt apply
[04:08] <farva> so the whole string would be: scp -P port user@host:dir/from -R user@host:dir/to
[04:08] <MACscr> and installing a trusty kernel is not obviously an official and supported Precise kernel
[04:08] <xangua> it is in ubuntu official repositories so it is
[04:09] <AR45> gartral: no luck
[04:09] <somsip> farva: yes, though usually -P and -R would be together. Most commands are happy if they are split, but some complain if one is interspersed with required arguments, so best to get into good habits.
[04:09] <somsip> farva: scp -P port -R ...etc...
[04:09] <farva> gotcha, thanks for the correction =]
[04:09] <MACscr> having it in an official ubuntu repo has nothing to do it being LTS
[04:10] <MACscr> Im running Precise and i can only use Precise kernels
[04:10] <AR45> gartral: this is a complicated problem
[04:10] <MACscr> i use ksplice, so i cant use any other kernels
[04:10] <MACscr> besides what is supported for Precise
[04:11] <gartral> AR45: ok then... re install, but run those commands I gave you BEFORE you reboot after installing the nvidia drivers.. for reference they are "sudo nvidia-xconfig" "rm -rf ./.Xauthority"
[04:11] <AR45> gartral: appreciate the effort.. hopefully it works
[04:12] <SASDOE> Can I do something like freebsd multiple routing tables? Ie by default use eth0, and specify what apps should use tun0 (vpn) interface?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: apt-cache search routing show a few interesting
[04:15] <kamkam> exit
[04:16] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: your end goal is to tunnel specific apps trough the vpn only?
[04:18] <farva> somsip:  when I use option -R after my port it tells me it is an illegal option, when I put it after the directory I am pulling files from, it tells me there is no such directory...what am I doing wrong? http://gyazo.com/50c1856538296fb1adf3e5b97167727b
[04:18] <SASDOE> lewq:
[04:18] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: yes.
[04:19] <SASDOE> By default all traffic goes to vpn interface, and I would like to avoid that.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: so we need a tunneling package
[04:21] <__unik> Hi. Can someone tell me what the best voice rec program (open source)
[04:21] <__unik> is
[04:21] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: The app is run by a specific user, does that help?
[04:22] <mircocrocop> hey
[04:23] <mircocrocop> can anyone help me pls
[04:24] <dupingping> Hi
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mircocrocop
[04:24] <dupingping> How to get CDROM cache size?
[04:25] <dupingping> No man here only bots?
[04:25] <somsip> farva: very sorry - recursive is -r on scp. It always throws me as it's -R with cp. My bad
[04:25] <farva> oh gotcha thank you =]
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !patience | dupingping
[04:26] <cfhowlett> __unik, "real" = no such thing = so many choices.  look in the software center.  audacity is quite popular.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> SASDOE: not sure wich one you need specific, that bird package seems interesting
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info bird | SASDOE
[04:27] <farva> somsip:  I just get all the fun tonight, now I get this error about a config option: http://gyazo.com/6f8be2e28bdf034e4fff0c06f9b86da2
[04:27] <sqwaw> I was wondering is there's a way to warn about logged in, unattended tty[1..6] to tty7/GUI ?
[04:27] <SASDOE> lotuspsychje: I'll look into it, cheers
[04:29] <mircocrocop> i am having trouble getting mv command to work and idk why. it is taking a lot of time although its move in same partition. for example i do mv /c/stuff/* /c/news. /c/ is mounted as is and is the root mount. I've also been using chroot after i mounted it
[04:29] <somsip> farva: no idea about those. I'd suggest commenting them out in /etc/ssh/ssh_config as they don't look vital to security
[04:29] <farva> ok
[04:29] <dupingping> How to get CDROM's cache size?
[04:29] <__unik> cfhowlett: I am looking for voice recognition program. (speech to text)
[04:30] <sqwaw> farva: I'm not sure if the file is cAsE sensitive or not
[04:30] <cfhowlett> __unik, ah.  different animal
[04:30] <dupingping> __unik: dejavu?
[04:30] <farva> did you see something I may have mistyped?
[04:30] <sqwaw> farva: casing in the man page is as followS: ClientAliveCountMax ClientAliveInterval
[04:30] <somsip> __unik: ISTR wiki has a page on voice recognition software. Probably a good start from scratch
[04:31] <__unik> somsip thanks
[04:31] <sqwaw> farva: Like I said, not sure if it's case sensitive or not, but yours was all lower case. Give it a show.
[04:31] <farva> ok =]
[04:31] <sqwaw> shot*.
[04:31] <farva> though, I know I didn't change it lol I can give it a go
[04:31] <somsip> farva: looks like some bad editing by a previous user
[04:32] <sqwaw> farva: from the man page:  (note that keywords are case-insensitive and arguments are case-sensitive)
[04:32] <sqwaw> so not sure that helps.
[04:33] <farva> =]
[04:36] <farva> somsip: it is now telling me that it cannot connect to the default port on my destination IP, my string is: scp -P port -r farva@host:/home/farva/testserver/minecraft farva@host:/home/farva/minecraft
[04:36] <farva> both ports are the same, I checked them both in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:36] <somsip> farva: ssh to one and then scp from the other.
[04:37] <farva> okay, then how does that look?
[04:37] <farva> this is so confusing...why can;t I just copy it over =[
[04:37] <peawormsworth> When I do an md5sum on ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, I get something other than what is shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS
[04:38] <somsip> farva: ssh -p port user@destination-host then cd /path/to/folder/ and scp -P port -r user@source-host:/source/path/ ./
[04:38] <__unik> farva: whats your problem?
[04:39] <farva> __unik:  somsip  is helping me, its just tedious and confusing lol
[04:39] <somsip> farva: you are using a number instead of 'port' aren't you?
[04:39] <__unik> farva ok
[04:39] <farva> yes
[04:39] <somsip> k
[04:40] <farva> so how does this work I don't understand...should I be on the destination server running these commands or the original server? do I need to do this from both sides?
[04:41] <somsip> farva: you either ssh to the destination and scp to 'copy files from source to here' or ssh to the source and scp to 'copy these files to that server over there'
[04:46] <peawormsworth> my md5sum for 14.04-1 does not match what is shown online.
[04:47] <somsip> peawormsworth: download it again
[04:47] <cfhowlett> peawormsworth, don't use it.  download with .torrent
[04:47] <peawormsworth> k thanks. I'll use other methods.
[04:47] <peawormsworth> yup. will do.
[04:48] <farva> somsip:  so I have the ssh to scp down, but when I go to copy the files, it keeps telling me that the connection is refused on port 22, but we are telling it port 3927
[04:48] <peawormsworth> ...and also... why is the download page http and not ssl? seems my browser could be more certain about spoofing if ssl was used.
[04:48] <bajin-lee> hi
[04:48] <farva> http://gyazo.com/4e2b660ce09a99ee5a90164464abd30e
[04:49] <bajin-lee> i want to know how to install a software by using src
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !source | bajin-lee
[04:50] <bajin-lee> ubottu, thanks,i'll have a try
[04:51] <somsip> farva: looks like you must use SSH when both servers use non-standard ports. So either ssh to one server and scp from/to the other, or you're wrapping the scp in an ssh command which is adding complexity ssh -p XXX user@host scp -P XXX /file user@otherhost:/otherfile
[04:51] <bajin-lee> ubottu,thank you anyway
[04:51] <farva> I was connected with ssh from my destination
[04:51] <farva> I guess, try it the other way around?
[04:53] <somsip> farva: i couldn't see that from the paste. There is no need to specify the server if the file is local to the server. Just scp -P {other server port} -r /path/locally user@other-server:/path/remotely
[04:54] <farva> ok
[04:54] <farva> ty =]
[04:54] <farva> (fingers crossed)
[04:54] <somsip> farva: that to put it from this server to that server. scp -P {port} -r user@otherserver:path /this/server/path to do it the other way
[04:54] <farva> kk =]
[05:00] <farva> somsip: connection timed out
[05:01] <farva> going from the source to the target
[05:01] <somsip> farva: I can't help you with that one. Maybe that's the KeepAlive setting in the ssh_config. Did you comment them out or correct them?
[05:01] <farva> I commented them out, I can add them back in
[05:01] <neurotus> why cant 'ubuntu mono'-font show unicode heart in irssi ?
[05:02] <neurotus> is there a modified version ?
[05:02] <somsip> farva: worth a try. Have you found the correct setting...with caps?
[05:02] <farva> I know where it is yes, I just forgot the times to put in there
[05:03] <whzddoutput> excuse me. how to use netstat to know some application  that sending our data when internet connection is active?
[05:04] <whzddoutput> and how to block the data sending?
[05:04] <somsip> !ufw | whzddoutput
[05:06] <whzddoutput> somsip, thx.
[05:07] <farva> somsip: didn't work
[05:08] <somsip> farva: still timeout?
[05:08] <farva> it gave me the error from them being present
[05:08] <farva> I had to edit them out, and so yes, still timing out
[05:09] <somsip> farva: that's very poor. Is it a crap host?
[05:09] <farva> no, I never have network issues with them
[05:09] <farva> I have a feeling it is something I have set some where...being new and all, I probably messed something up
[05:09] <somsip> farva: is this your connection to them, or connection between them?
[05:10] <farva> connection between
[05:11] <whzddoutput> somsip, when i try gufw but show in my screen :the application '/usr/share/gufw/gufw.py' lets you modify essential parts of your system. \n is it danger to my system?
[05:12] <somsip> farva: any way you could transfer smaller directories each time? Otherwise you'd need something like rsync (resumable transfers). But to lose connections is not good at all. Maybe the hosting company can explain why? Maybe they enforce a timeout?
[05:12] <somsip> whzddoutput: I can't help you with it. I just know it exists
[05:13] <whzddoutput> someone, ok no problem. thx sir
[05:13] <whzddoutput> * somsip, ok no problem. thx sir
[05:13] <whzddoutput> someone, sory .
[05:13] <farva> that was my plan actually, to break it up, this is a quarter of our files, with only maybe 10 gigs
[05:14] <nevermoreraven> this is my sister http://ur1.ca/ib2fi
[05:15] <somsip> farva: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1120095/split-files-using-tar-gz-zip-or-bzip2 (still poor that you should have to do it)
[05:15] <Logan_> nevermoreraven: please keep discussion on-topic to Ubuntu
[05:15] <somsip> nevermoreraven: stop it
[05:16] <farva> I did not have to do that last time...hmmm
[05:18] <farva> somsip: I figured it out, with my copy/paste, I messed up my target IP
[05:18] <farva> fixed it and it is copying just fine now!
[05:18] <somsip> farva: woo
[05:18] <farva> thank you for the help
[05:19] <somsip> farva: np
[05:19] <farva> now I know quite a bit more about ssh
[05:20] <somsip> farva: like ssh and scp and cp have annoying differences in -p -P, -r and -R...
[05:20] <farva> yea, its a bit annoying they don't have a standard
[05:21] <somsip> farva: all part of the challenge
[05:21] <physixer> any helpful links/resources to neuter my ubuntu installation? i.e., turn it into lfs plus xorg plus i3wm?
[05:21] <farva> xD
[05:21] <physixer> sorta
[05:21] <somsip> physixer: by lfs do you mean Linux From Scratch?
[05:21] <physixer> somsip: yes
[05:21] <somsip> physixer: then you misunderstand what LFS is about
[05:22] <physixer> somsip: i just mean minimalize my ubuntu. remove ubuntu-desktop etc
[05:22] <cfhowlett> physixer,
[05:22] <cfhowlett> !mini
[05:23] <somsip> physixer: yeah - easier to build up from minimal than to pare down from a full install. Though ISTR a page on pychocats (pyschonauts?) that suggests how to remove stuff
[05:24] <somsip> physixer: google "psychocats remove ubuntu" and see what might help you on there. too many to link to the right one by chance
[05:24] <physixer> cfhowlett, somsip: ok if I have to do a reinstall, I'd need an easy way to generate a list of packages I manually installed, so that I can reinstall them on new installation
[05:24] <cfhowlett> physixer, dpkg -l         will list your packages
[05:25] <physixer> cfhowlett: doesn't that list 'all' packages, that's a huge list for me
[05:26] <somsip> physixer: something like this *may* work https://kura.io/2010/07/02/using-dpkg-selections-to-backup-and-install-packages/
[05:26] <icloud> I want to try out xnomad w dmenu however the install is est to be 500mb...is this right? i thought xnomad is very lightweight
[05:26] <cfhowlett> physixer, cat /var/log/dpkg* | grep "\ installed\ "
[05:28] <physixer> also I'm kinda afraid of doing a reinstall a 4-year old install (installed 10.04 then upgraded to 12.04 then upgraded to 14.04). I have moved my home dir to a separate partition. Any issues to watch out for?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> physixer, "old" equipmment = lubuntu or xubuntu.  lubuntu is optimized for older / lower specification hardware
[05:29] <malkauns> how do u enable hibernate in ubuntu server (not desktop)?
[05:30] <physixer> cfhowlett: thanks.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> physixer, happy2help
[05:30] <sqwaw> I was wondering is there's a way to warn about logged in, unattended tty[1..6] to tty7/GUI or another place.
[05:31] <systemclient> I just set up a Kubuntu with “guided encrypted LVM” and it seems to work just fine. Is that done with LUKS in the background, meaning that the AES module in the Intel i5 can work such that I do not have a CPU impact?
[05:32] <rww> yes, it uses LUKS
[05:32] <systemclient> sqwaw: check `w` or `who` for other logins. You could write a script to parse that output
[05:32] <systemclient> rww: Is there a reson why it uses a LVM and not a plain encrypted partition?
[05:32] <sqwaw> wow, why didn't i realize that. sometimes the simplest is the easiest :)
[05:32] <rww> systemclient: so that there can be multiple partitions inside it. e.g. / and swap
[05:33] <systemclient> sqwaw: yeah, the old tools are very powerful. Old often means mature :-)
[05:33] <ObrienDave> i'm mature, err, old ;P
[05:33] <systemclient> rww: ah, so it is an encrypted partition with a LVM with multiple partitions. Seems like a good idea :-)
[05:35] <systemclient> rww: is there a way to disable swap in that LVM in the default isntaller? Guess I have to use the text installer then?
[05:39] <delt> Hello
[05:39] <delt> trying to compile a simple program that uses XOpenDisplay() .... getting error: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'
[05:39] <delt> actually, trying to compile simple programs i wrote on slackware, gives errors for each X11 function used in those programs
[05:39] <delt> this seems to fail at the linking phase -- collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:39]  * delt stumped :( :(
[05:42] <delt> :(
[05:42] <ObrienDave> this is a Ubuntu support issue because.....????
[05:44] <delt> because it works on slackware and not ubuntu
[05:45] <delt> libx11-dev is already the newest version.
[05:45] <AR45> well i give up trying to install ubuntu on mac
[05:46] <gartral> AR45: sorry bud >.>
[05:46] <AR45> gartral: hey your there, it goes blank again
[05:47] <gartral> even with the instructions I gave you?
[05:47] <AR45> gartral: but I found my recovery mode
[05:47] <wal> Hello
[05:47] <AR45> gartral: yes
[05:48] <wal> I from Argentina. I speak spanish. is there chanels in spanish?
[05:48] <AR45> gartral: however I found the grub recovery option
[05:48] <delt> !es
[05:48] <gartral> AR45: does it blank in that, too?
[05:48] <wal> Graciassssssss!!!
[05:49] <AR45> gartral: no
[05:49] <gartral> is that where you ran both those commands from?
[05:51] <AR45> gartral: No.
[05:51] <AR45> gartral: When I reinstalled the OS I logged in and ran them after installing the NVDIA Drivers.
[05:52] <gartral> AR45: you said it was a macbook pro.. yea?
[05:52] <AR45> gartral: but at the moment I have access to the root shell prompt.
[05:52] <AR45> gartral: Yes a MacBook Pro
[05:52] <gartral> AR45: you do? from the live cd/usb or the installed system?
[05:53] <AR45> gartral: from the installed system
[05:53] <gartral> mmmmk.. I take it a third install attempt?
[05:57] <shiv> hi any one help me to install ns2
[05:58] <somsip> shiv: what is ns2?
[05:58] <shiv> hi
[05:59] <shiv> quit
[06:00] <shiv> shiv
[06:01] <AR45> gartral: https://i.imgur.com/upNa3Mo.jpg
[06:01] <AR45> gartral: it's read only :(
[06:02] <gartral> ahh... recovery mode, one sec
[06:02] <AR45> ubuntu run on Mac or what.. been two days and still stuck on this
[06:02] <gartral> AR45: mount -o remount,rw /
[06:04] <gartral> AR45: Apple hardware is a pain in the... well.. I can't finish that here, but it is possible to get it working.. it's just not as easy as a regular computer..
[06:08] <AR45> gartral: I did that command, it didn't return anything.
[06:09] <gartral> AR45: good, now run nvidia-xconfig again
[06:10] <AR45> gartral: done
[06:10] <gartral> AR45: no errors?
[06:10] <AR45> gartral: no none
[06:11] <AR45> gartral: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook_Pro_7,1#Nvidia
[06:11] <AR45> gartral: read the very bottom
[06:13] <gartral> AR45: good to note, however let's continue... next run rm /home/<your-username>/.Xauthority
[06:13] <systemclient> Do you know whether this “guided encrypted LVM” will enable TRIM when installed on a SSD?
[06:14] <penguin1> hello good day everyone!
[06:14] <AR45> gartral: No such file or directory.
[06:14] <penguin1> need your help!
[06:15] <penguin1> anyone knows how can I update bash in ubuntu server 11.10 ?
[06:15] <gartral> AR45: are you replacing the <your-username> bit of that command with the username you chose? :P
[06:15] <somsip> !11.10 | penguin1
[06:16] <somsip> penguin1: way out of support. Best to replace it with somethign that is not affected by the exploit
[06:16] <SASDOE> penguin1: you could always download from source, compile (make) and install with dpkg -i bash[vnumber].deb
[06:16] <gartral> penguin1: hit up #ubuntu-server
[06:16] <SASDOE> But yes update distro
[06:16] <AR45> gartral: yes ofc
[06:17] <penguin1> SASDOE: do you have a link where I can update ubuntu server 11.10 from source?
[06:17] <gartral> AR45: does the command ls -la /home/<you>/ | grep .Xa dhow anything?
[06:19] <SASDOE> penguin1: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/ but why don't you update? You are probably vulnerable to many other vulns. Update distro.
[06:19] <AR45> gartral: shows nothing
[06:20] <penguin1> SASDOE:thanks for the link. if I will update bash alone, does it have impact to other running services like mysql-server, apache2 and etc. since it's already EOL ?
[06:22] <gartral> AR45: ok, then that's actually a good thing.. and was a matter of precaution. does less /etc/X11/xorg.conf show anything?
[06:23] <iscorpion> hello guys please tell me is it to possible to run .bat file on linux?
[06:23] <Guest-6473> on windows emulator most likely
[06:23] <iscorpion> sorry for ma poor english m only 13years old
[06:23] <gartral> iscorpion: as in, windows batch files?
[06:23] <iscorpion> yes
[06:23] <SASDOE> penguin1: Shouldn't, but as I said, updating bash alone is pretty much useless security wise if you stay on 11.10. Many vulns have been discovered since. But hey you seem pretty confident, good luck.
[06:24] <Guest-6473> .sh files do the same thing, easier might be to rewrite it
[06:24] <AR45> gartral: yes yes it does
[06:24] <iscorpion> AR45 : HOW?
[06:25] <AR45> gartral: shows x configuration file generated by nvidia-config
[06:25] <gartral> iscorpion: simple answer; No.. but depending on what it does you may be able to write a corrisponfing shell script. longer answer; not and have it do exactly what you'ed expect, unless it just launches an application...
[06:25] <gartral> iscorpion: AR45 was talking to me
[06:25] <penguin1> SASDOE: I'm worrying in upgrading the live production server into a new distro, because I can't guess if it will works properly after the upgrade
[06:26] <iscorpion> gatral: i just want to install cwm using linux on android
[06:26] <iscorpion> cwm has .bat file
[06:26] <SASDOE> penguin1: That's what virtual machines are for
[06:26] <ptaszynka> How to paste something into shell ?
[06:26] <SASDOE> ptaszynka: if your shell supports it: shift-ctrl-p
[06:27] <SASDOE> ptaszynka: shift-ctrl-v sorry
[06:27] <SASDOE> If in gnu screen, do ctrl-[ first
[06:27] <SASDOE> s/shell/terminal
[06:27] <penguin1> SASDOE: by the way, what is the best utility in backing up VM's in ubuntu using kvm as virtual machine host?
[06:28] <gartral> AR45: GOOD! hit Q, and type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" find the section called "Section "Device"" and add this line to the bottom of it. Capitolization is very important here, make sure you write it correctly. Ctrl-O then Ctrl-X will write the change and close the file respectively     Option  "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[06:28] <SASDOE> penguin1: No idea but I'm pretty sure google has the answer.
[06:29] <penguin1> SASDOE: haha!, by the way what are you using as virtual machine host?
[06:29] <iscorpion> thanks all i will try to learn shell scripts
[06:29] <iscorpion> exit
[06:30] <gartral> penguin1: everything will work fine except for hosted websites, which will need updated configuration..
[06:31] <penguin1> gartal:can you give me sample VM backup utility?
[06:31] <AR45> gartral: done (but I did these steps before fyi)
[06:33] <gartral> penguin1: what are you using for virtualization?
[06:33] <penguin1> gartral: I'm using qemu-kvm
[06:35] <gartral> penguin1: ugh..
[06:36] <donix> hello
[06:36] <gartral> penguin1: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/CreateSnapshot
[06:36] <donix> problem: When playing files on VLC media player video quality seems reduced from previous versions.
[06:37] <donix> running Kubuntu 14.10
[06:37] <donix> is this a problem with my download or could there be something wrong with graphics driver?
[06:38] <gartral> AR45: really? hrm..
[06:38] <donix> when video plays with intense motion there are streaks across the screen, and even with 720p + files the quality seems blurry and choppy
[06:38] <penguin1> thanks for that info gartral!
[06:38] <AR45> gartral: so what now?
[06:38] <gartral> AR45: looking..
[06:42] <gartral> AR45: I'm not seeing much.. so my recomendation now is reboot and cross your fingers :/ I'm out of ideas
[06:42] <jbj1> anyone having problems with apt repos? I'm trying do-release-upgrade and seeing: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com saucy/main Translation-en_US
[06:43] <cfhowlett> !saucy | jbj1,
[06:43] <gartral> AR45: also, before you go, keep in mind that make a point of not touch apple hardware/software with a ten-meter pole if I can avoid it, fer more-or-less precisely this reason..
[06:44] <jbj1> ahh ok, so that's why the upgrade script was failing... hmmm, so I wonder if I should just let the upgrade proceed...
[06:44] <AR45> gartral: and x crashed again.. now I have to figure out how to install ubuntu without efi mode or something of the sort
[06:44] <cfhowlett> AR45, sad to say, but I agree with gartral.  my 2009 dell is due to be replaced and I've been tech-lusting at the Mac Air ... BUT
[06:45] <cfhowlett> jbj1, end of life upgrade?  better perhaps to download the 14.04 iso and install
[06:45] <AR45> cfhowlett: eh...
[06:45] <AR45> bummer guys.. I'm sad
[06:46] <Grimlock1182> guys help me how to configure gamepad custom in ubuntu 14.04
[06:46] <gartral> AR45: for *THAT* I think I can solve your question https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Single-Boot:_Ubuntu_Only
[06:46] <jbj1> I'm upgrading from 6,417 miles away... ;-)
[06:46] <cfhowlett> jbj1, oh, some REMOTE upgrade!  fun ...
[06:47] <jbj1> I'm a bit bolder than I should be since I've gotten away with it a bunch of times...
[06:48] <gartral> jbj1: ew... remote upgrades.. I don't do those unless I know I can get a hold of competent hands at the datacenter in case things go sour
[06:49] <jbj1> gartral: yeeeeeaaahhh, so if things go terribly wrong I can get someone there but I might have to wait until the weekend
[06:50] <gartral> jbj1: then wait, don't start until you have "boots on-deck" at the facility.
[06:51] <gartral> jbj1: that or, if possible, clone the deployment to a local disk, do your upgrades in a vm, and then re-deploy
[06:51] <jbj1> yeeeaaaah trouble is it's actually in my house so I could get someone to go there but I wouldn't want to ask unless I really needed it
[06:52] <jbj1> so it's a bit sticky :-)
[06:52] <gartral> jbj1: ah..
[06:52] <gartral> jbj1: I know that feeling, I run my own servers too
[06:56] <jbj1> he-he, yeah things can get dicey. I definitely rely on the Intel AMT--though I haven't gotten the serial console to work with grub
[06:56] <jbj1> but I can at least reboot which has saved me many times
[06:58] <jbj1> but you're idea I like: ideally I'd keep two partitions and actually upgrade via VM running off the other partition
[06:58] <jbj1> that's how TiVo works under the hood (sorta). when a system upgrade comes it installs it on the alternate partition and then switches
[06:58] <jbj1> tricky part is you have to clone your "config" and data files
[06:59] <ptaszynka> How to install pygame into ubuntu 14 with python 3.4 ?
[06:59] <somsip> !info python3
[06:59] <jbj1> but you could do it manually if you had a serial console via AMT into grub and two partitions + VM setup
[07:01] <gartral> jbj1: just clone all of the disk.. it'd be a direct mirror
[07:03] <jbj1> yeah, should mostly "just work" except perhaps device ids..
[07:10] <AR45> gartral: so I just have to change my hd partition format? o_o
[07:11] <AR45> gartral: and it's out of efi mode?
[07:12] <gartral> AR45: that matches my *admittedly limited( experience with macs, yes
[07:13] <AR45> gartral: if this works, I'll be happy because my OS X partition is gone and the default disk recovery utility won't start
[07:13] <AR45> gartral: so now I have even more problems lol
[07:14] <jbj1> AR45 what are you installing on?
[07:15] <jbj1> I installed on a mac mini
[07:15] <jbj1> I vaguely recalled I should have used a utility in macos to set up the loader before I blew away the OSX partition
[07:17] <AR45> got a simple question for you guys, what's the difference between fedora and debian?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> AR45, consult wikipedia or ##linux
[07:18] <jbj1> AR45: fedora is the open source RedHat?
[07:18] <jbj1> AR45 and therefore not debian at all, totally different distro
[07:18] <AR45> jbj1 so what's a red hat?
[07:21] <jbj1> RedHat is just another distro--most visibly they are the progenitors of the ".rpm" format
[07:22] <AR45> gartral: okay anyway to check if im not in efi mode?
[07:23] <gartral> AR45: that... I am uncertain of
[07:24] <jbj1> oh I think you can check that...
[07:24] <jbj1> you mean from linux?\
[07:25] <jbj1> the box I'm on right now boots via EFI
[07:26] <jbj1> if you booted from EFI you should have /sys/firmware/efi
[07:26] <jbj1> (in linux)
[07:28] <AR45> jbj1 fuck me..
[07:28] <AR45> jbj1: it's there..
[07:28] <cfhowlett> AR45, language = keep it clean
[07:29] <AR45> cfhowlett: sorry.. frustrated
[07:29] <cfhowlett> AR45, understood
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> hey I am getting a wierd packaging bug http://i.imgur.com/pNxB9pJ.jpg
[07:31] <botnut> hi all - anyone in try have any luck getting a synaptics trackpad on a dell laptop working on ubuntu 14.04 running under vmware player with a windows 8.1 host?
[07:32] <akiva-thinkpad> its not letting me upgrade this, and its causing other packages to fail to install
[07:32] <metaspike> AR45, fedora is a derivative of RedHat's beta code, without the commercial additions, with community addons, if that makes sense
[07:32] <metaspike> where centos is the stable branch, unless im mistaken
[07:32] <Woodrag> how do i find out which packages cause: pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[07:33] <AR45> Ubuntu has failed me for the first time ever!
[07:34] <cfhowlett> AR45, pray we don't alter your computer further
[07:37] <dupingping> How to get CD/DVD drive's cache size?
[07:37] <metaspike> Woodrag, maybe /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[07:37] <jbj1> AR45: oh also when you boot from EFI you usually have the EFI partition mounted
[07:37] <jbj1> mounted somewhere
[07:38] <SASDOE> Is there a log of all ip address my server ever connected to somewhere?
[07:38] <AR45> sigh crashed again
[07:38] <somsip> SASDOE: /var/log is where all the logs are
[07:39] <botnut> if not there - then check your router - might have a log as well
[07:39] <metaspike> akiva-thinkpad, try it in console? maybe its a subversion thing...
[07:40] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, sure' I'll give you the output
[07:41] <SASDOE> So it would be logged by application not by system?
[07:41] <metaspike> SASDOE, hmmm. just like, generally or to a specific service? because apache server has logs, but I don't think the computer logs IPs generically, you can monitor connections with 'netstat -c' though
[07:42] <metaspike> by default, I don't think ubuntu logs IP connections.
[07:42] <somsip> SASDOE: it depends what you mean by 'all ip addresses'. auth.log will contain SSH logins, apache2 logs webserver access, etc...
[07:43] <SASDOE> Ok it's what I feared. The app I am using doesn't log ips.
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, no potato http://paste.ubuntu.com/8512848/
[07:44] <SASDOE> So how would a gov find who planted a backdoor (for example) if there are no logs?
[07:44] <somsip> SASDOE: it is unlikely there is another log then
[07:44] <botnut> router logs
[07:45] <botnut> system logs
[07:45] <metaspike> akiva-thinkpad, wat, that's bonkers. try 'rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-doc_2.18.0-1_all.deb'
[07:45] <botnut> app logs
[07:45] <metaspike> and chips your tv set!
[07:45] <metaspike> their monitoring my brainwaves
[07:46] <botnut> they're
[07:46] <SASDOE> I doubt backdoors log the ip of it's control server! But thanks I got my answer
[07:46] <somsip> SASDOE: is this still a query relating to your specific installation of ubuntu, or just some general question
[07:47] <SASDOE> My question's been answered, ubuntu by default does not log all ips it connects to.
[07:48] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, nope still the same issues
[07:52] <bolD> has anyone configured OpenLiteSpeed?
[07:52] <metaspike> a quick search reveals there's a bug in the package itself. maybe, dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq lilypond-doc & apt-get install lilypond-doc . will temporarily fix it. or cause fire
[07:52] <bolD> how to enable basic auth on it?
[07:54] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, thanks
[07:57] <akiva-thinkpad> metaspike, that appears to have worked;
[07:57] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookie | metaspike
[07:58] <metaspike> glad i could help ;)
[08:00] <farva> I need to update my version of ubuntu and I was following this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/ which led me to this: http://gyazo.com/1de5c5f86de86adc0a4f5c43137a2d6b and I am uncertain if I should be continuing in this way
[08:00] <botnut> farva - not sure - i did an upgrade from 12 to 14 and after a few months it bombed out - i wound up redoing it with 14.04 fresh install
[08:01] <somsip> farva: what version are you on?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> farva, what is the output from your terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[08:02] <metaspike> upgrading over ssh, that's brave
[08:03] <farva> 12.0405 LTS \n \l
[08:03] <Ben64> farva: you can continue that way, just make sure you can log in using the port it says
[08:04] <farva> I can't have it bottoming out on me in a few months though
[08:04] <farva> should I just go with a fresh install?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> farva, direct upgrade to 14.04       if your software sources are set to "Long Term Support" version
[08:04] <Ben64> farva: is it a server?
[08:04] <farva> what is direct upgrade
[08:04] <farva> Ben64:  yes
[08:04] <farva> (new to all this)
[08:04] <Ben64> any PPAs or weird stuff?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> farva, sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade
[08:05] <farva> I have that cfhowlett
[08:05] <Ben64> cfhowlett: apt-get?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> farva, doh!  sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !cookie | Ben64,
[08:05] <farva> its a fresh machine, it was supposed to come with 14.04 and they gave me 12
[08:05] <Ben64> :D
[08:05] <Ben64> farva: well then i'd ask them to put 14.04 on it
[08:06] <snpresent> hello guys
[08:06] <Ben64> the upgrade should be fine, but if you haven't done anything yet you might as well have them put 14.04 on fresh
[08:22] <Guest68589> what
[08:22] <peawormsworth> I downloaded 14.04 from torrents. The md4sum is correct. But when I installed, it turned out to be 13.04 raring. Why?
[08:22] <Guest68589> slava Stalinu
[08:23] <superkuh> Probably because you downloaded 13.04.
[08:23] <peawormsworth> no. I dont have that downloaded at all.
[08:24] <peawormsworth> let me recheck tho.
[08:25] <farva> What do I select here? Since I already have my root user set up.... : http://gyazo.com/146710bd4b0c59cfc1316408d6e36062
[08:25] <farva> I mean, I could assume I keep it the way I have it, but I don't want to mess up
[08:26] <peawormsworth> superkuh: you are correct. obvious answer is true.
[08:26] <superkuh> You could just add the 'Defaults    mail_badpass' manually farva.
[08:26] <farva> I have no idea what that is
[08:27] <superkuh> Me either!
[08:27] <superkuh> But if it's in the new version it probably won't hurt.
[08:29] <zetheroo> I need to remove a search entry in resolv.conf for good - how does one do this?
[08:30] <superkuh> Open /etc/resolv.conf with root privs in your text editor of choice?
[08:32] <superkuh> gksu gedit /etc/resolv.conf , etc. Find the 'search ________' line, remove it, save.
[08:32] <superkuh> Also check in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ for other instances of the search line.
[08:32] <kanupatar> May I know, about the support in linux for the listed features? http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/4752c2e9
[08:33] <ShrewdSpirit> hello
[08:33] <kanupatar> I am planning to build a demo system
[08:33] <superkuh> Probably not, kanupatar, that list is generic.
[08:33] <superkuh> CAN support? A car computer?
[08:34] <kanupatar> superkuh: yes
[08:34] <superkuh> You'd probably be able to work something but might need to bitbang or use some external peripheral.
[08:34] <ShrewdSpirit> guys i've a problem with installing xubuntu 14.04. i have windows 8.1 installed with legacy boot mode, but xubuntu doesnt detect my partitions in installer
[08:34] <kanupatar> superkuh: means can driver
[08:34] <superkuh> Well, okay, sure. CAN is supported in the linux kernel.
[08:35] <kanupatar> superkuh: also can stack
[08:35] <kanupatar> superkuh: where do I see the support list
[08:35] <iIlL10Oo>  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[08:35] <superkuh> http://elinux.org/CAN_Bus
[08:35] <kanupatar> these are the features, FM     AM     handsfree sending / Receiving     Phone Book     Miracast-Wifi     HDMI     BT     CD     DVD     CarPlay     DTV     DIAG     CAN     Rear Camera
[08:36] <ShrewdSpirit> can anyone help?
[08:36] <ShrewdSpirit> .-.
[08:37] <snpresent> say it
[08:37] <superkuh> I don't know Windows, shewd, sorry.
[08:37] <ShrewdSpirit> @snpresent xubuntu installer doesnt detect my partitions. i have windows 8.1 installed
[08:38] <staar2> hello
[08:38] <filsuck> hallo all!! ... does Ubuntu have an NSA-BACKDOOR?
[08:39] <DJones> filsuck: Easily answered, no
[08:39] <filsuck> for sure the mofo NSA has a special backdoor in WinSuck
[08:39] <superkuh> They probably have a whole load of secret 0'days for it.
[08:40] <superkuh> But they probably do for everything.
[08:40] <glcheetham> Hi there, I am attempting to set up a mail server using postfix and courier and I can receive mail via IMAP fine, but attempting to send mail gives me a "relay access denied". What does this error exactly mean and what are some of its common causes?
[08:40] <filsuck> how can I know there is no backdoor in ubuntu DESIGNED FOR NSA
[08:40] <filsuck> ubuntu is also just an american hoe ... no?
[08:40] <glcheetham> filsuck: you can see the source code and check for yourself
[08:41] <superkuh> glcheetham, check your /var/logs/mail.log
[08:41] <kmj> hi everyone, i'm new to linux os, any idea how to install flash player having in mind that adobe website is restricted in my country.
[08:41] <superkuh> It'll be something relating to smtpd_recipient_restrictions in your postfix config.
[08:42] <apb1963> I'm trying to run an application remotely... using X.  The window pops up locally, but I'm getting horrible response time from it; every click is an agonizing wait. The local client has normal reaction time for local applications, the remote server has 8 cores and virtually no load.  Ping time between is good (~50ms).  Any ideas on why it's so slow and/or preferably how to speed it up?
[08:42] <superkuh> kmj, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:42] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit set BIOS UEFI off and hard disk mode change to another mode
[08:42] <glcheetham> superkuh, cheers, what does the error itself, as in, what set of conditions need to happen before it triggers?
[08:43] <filsuck> I come to conclusion anything American is totally UNTRUSTWORTHY
[08:43] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent my laptop boots in legacy mode
[08:43] <filsuck> yaho google facebook
[08:43] <filsuck> all garbage
[08:43] <DJones> filsuck: You're welcome to that opinion, but its not a topic for discussion here, this channel only deals with Ubuntu support questions
[08:43] <superkuh> glcheetham: Sorry, no time to get into mailserver setup. That's tedious stuff. Check out the workaround.org ispmail tutorials to get some context.
[08:43] <superkuh> That's where I learned how.
[08:44] <apb1963> glcheetham: it sounds like you're trying to use some other server (like your ISP perhaps?) as your mail relay.  *shrug*
[08:44] <filsuck> now ISIS is openly demanding their fans to behead twitter's employee!
[08:44] <filsuck> now that is interesting
[08:44] <filsuck> now that is interesting
[08:44] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit not boot mode , harddisk mode got that
[08:44] <DJones> filsuck: Please stop, its not a topic for discussion here
[08:44] <glcheetham> superkuh, thanks alot for the help anyway :-)
[08:44] <glcheetham> apb1963: and you too
[08:44] <snpresent> harddisk opinion
[08:44] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent sorry but how can I change that?
[08:44] <ShrewdSpirit> :o
[08:45] <ShrewdSpirit> you mean device boot order?
[08:45] <azizLIGHT> what is the command for window spread?
[08:45] <azizLIGHT> in terminal
[08:45] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit please google how to use BIOS
[08:46] <apb1963> glcheetham: I believe there's a #postfix channel... you'll iikely find some knowledgeable people there... hopefully they've already eaten :)
[08:46] <ShrewdSpirit> ik how to use it. but i don't understand what's harddisk mode
[08:47] <superkuh> glcheetham, there's also a #postfix on freenode. But consider it more of a forum than IRC. You'll have to wait a long time to get help.
[08:47] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit ok i will show you wait second
[08:48] <ShrewdSpirit> okay thanks
[08:48] <glcheetham> Thanks guys
[08:48] <superkuh> Oh. You're there already.
[08:48] <superkuh> Heh. Good luck.
[08:48] <azizLIGHT> is ther ea comamnd i can use in terminal to do window spread (i want to make a launcher that does window spread)
[08:49] <superkuh> azizLIGHT, you could work something up with xmctrl.
[08:49] <superkuh> er, wmctrl.
[08:49] <superkuh> Also, xdotool.
[08:50] <azizLIGHT> pls more hint
[08:51] <glcheetham> In other news, I have started to lose a little faith in ubuntu and GNU/Linux as a desktop operating system. How can you help a brother who is losing faith? :(
[08:51] <azizLIGHT> why are you losing faith
[08:51] <superkuh> glcheetham, just imagine trying to set up a mail server on windows. :|
[08:51] <azizLIGHT> what caused that
[08:52] <metaspike> glcheetham, faith? this isn't a church lol
 reboot machine into BIOS find SATA Controller Mode
[08:53] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent what should I do then?
[08:53] <glcheetham> Most linux distros I've tried have little quirks that I need to sort out,and I'm kind of tired of vi'ing conf files
[08:53] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit try another mode
[08:53] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, okay lemme try
[08:53] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit like IDE mode or something else
[08:54] <glcheetham> Sometimes I feel like I just want something that just works, I feel like I've grown out of distro hopping and vi'ing
[08:54] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent ok
[08:54] <glcheetham> But it's something I used to enjoy :-(
[08:55] <IceBot3000> glcheetham: You may find this interesting: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
[08:59] <ShrewdSpirit> damn this gparted >_< its taking more than 2 hours to move and resize a partition. minitool partition wizard could do it faster
[09:01] <IceBot3000> Doubt it, gparted is just a wrapper for standard system utilities
[09:01] <metaspike> glcheetham, tedium is a sign for change, maybe you just need some fresh air or something :)
[09:01] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit no need try this in livecd :sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:02] <superkuh> Setting up my mail server was one of the more tedious things I've ever done. Blaming gnu/linux as a whole for that isn't fair.
[09:02] <superkuh> It'd be just as frustrating on any other platform short of using something like iRedmail.
[09:02] <cosmos_> hi
[09:02] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent but this will remove all my partitions :o I need windows for some tasks. I have to dual boot windows and ubuntu
[09:03] <glcheetham> superkuh: I haven't lost faith because of my setting up a mail server, I love linux on the server, I just am getting a little sick of things not working on my laptop :(
[09:03] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit it will not i think
[09:04] <glcheetham> superkuh: If I had to work with windows servers at work everyday I would probably have killed myself
[09:04] <superkuh> Ah, alright.
[09:04] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent seriously? there are some things that I can't do in windows and I need ubuntu for those
[09:04] <superkuh> A little venting is necessary. I've personally been battling a persistent every ~15 minutes filemanager segfault for the last month.
[09:05] <apb1963> glcheetham: pastebin your conf file.  maybe something obvious will jump out at me or someone
[09:05] <kanupatar> what about AM/FM stack support in linux?
[09:05] <apb1963> superkuh: I battled segfaults for 6 months until I dumped 12.04 and moved to 14.04... then I battled baloo until I finally found out how to turn it off.
[09:06] <superkuh> Mine started with the upgrade to 14.04. :\
[09:06] <snpresent>  <ShrewdSpirit> try google : sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:06] <snpresent> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1 count=8 seek=512
[09:06] <glcheetham> apb1963: postconf -n http://pastebin.com/E6pUtcjX
[09:06] <metaspike> my bugbear is no sound after resume from hibernate. pleh
[09:06] <apb1963> superkuh: IIRC, rumor has it you can't upgrade.. you have to install fresh.  But I could be wrong.  I installed fresh (using debootstrap), so I don't really know.
[09:07] <superkuh> I'd believe that.
[09:07] <apb1963> metaspike: ugh.  I rebooted 2 hours ago due to sound  problems.  Don't get me started on audio issues.
[09:07] <apb1963> glcheetham: looking
[09:07] <superkuh> I had to do some fairly non-standard things just to get the install to complete.
[09:07] <superkuh> Er, upgrade.
 it will Erase the signature part of the GPT partition table
[09:08] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent can't gdisk do this?
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> zapping GPT
[09:09] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit no any damage to its own partition
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> but I'm not sure if windows can boot then
[09:09] <ShrewdSpirit> windows 8 needs GPT
[09:10] <metaspike>  /dev/sda might be anything.. best check with lsblk first
[09:10] <snpresent> then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:11] <apb1963> glcheetham: what version of ubuntu?
[09:11] <glcheetham> apb1963: 14.04
[09:11] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent okay lemme try
[09:11] <apb1963> glcheetham: how did you install postfix?
then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:12] <snpresent> then you can install ubuntu use grub to boot windows
[09:12] <glcheetham> apb1963: In regards to the mail server, I am going to go and rethink, regroup and get my head straight. In regards to the losing of faith, I hope that linus and mark shuttleworth will forgive me :-)
[09:13] <glcheetham> apb1963: I used apt
[09:13] <apb1963> glcheetham: did you select anything other than defaults?
[09:13] <Grant_P> Hi All, I'm having serious issues with ubuntu14.04 & chrome (stable & beta). Its crashing constantly. Is there any known issues?
[09:13] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent okay removed the GPT signature. lets run the installer
 remember check you hard disk 's name
[09:14] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, okay
[09:14] <glcheetham> apb1963: No, however I have modified the main.cf file considerably
[09:14] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit i hope it will work
[09:15] <apb1963> glcheetham: Yeah, it kind of looks like it.  Try adding this:  "relayhost =" into your main.cf (no quotes).
[09:15] <glcheetham> apb1963: Thanks for the help
[09:16] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent I hope too. livecd is very slow. the installer is stuck in "preparing to install ..." page
[09:17] <apb1963> glcheetham: Also try adding "smtpd_relay_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated defer_unauth_destination" again... no quotes.
[09:17] <glcheetham> apb1963: yeah, that's something I have tried before however it has made no difference
[09:17] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit patient
[09:18] <glcheetham> apb1963: Thank you for the help however now I feel bad for help vampiring and I am going to go and fix this myself
[09:18] <apb1963> glcheetham: if that's the case, then you need someone who knows what they're doing :)
[09:18] <apb1963> glcheetham: meh.  That's the purpose of the channel as far as I'm concerned.  Give and take.
[09:18] <Jenny_> Howdy all
[09:19] <glcheetham> apb1963: May the force be with you, sir :-)
[09:19] <apb1963> glcheetham: You too
[09:19] <Jenny_> I'm looking for help with restoring grub after messing with partition sizes :o(
[09:19] <Grant_P> So anyone having issues with Geforce + chrome on ubuntu 14.04 where browser crashes or sometimes even whole system freezes?
[09:19] <somsip> Grant_P: yes, but I know it's a dodgy connection between AGP and mobo
[09:20] <nispr0> is it possible to show which interface belongs to output from lsof -i?
[09:20] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent woohoo :D I have my partitions now ^_^ thank you so much
[09:20] <Grant_P> somsip: ah bugger, i can see in the logs its segfaulting each time..
[09:20] <hateball> !fixgrub | Jenny_
[09:21] <somsip> Grant_P: different issue then
[09:21] <Jenny_> thanks bot, I've tried the walk through boot-repair no luck
[09:21] <snpresent> Grant_P what version you use
[09:21] <snpresent> ？
[09:22] <metaspike> Jenny_, grub-install /dev/sdx ?
[09:22] <Grant_P> snpresent: I'm ive tried both stable and beta and experiencing the same issue. I'm also using the 64 bit version of chrome. I've deleted the profile/config, but still no luck. I have literally one extension installed.
[09:22] <metaspike> i wish there was a way to magically convert ntfs to ext4
[09:22] <__unik> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[09:22] <__unik> Founder of GNU, Richard Stallman, has harsh criticism on Ubuntu.
[09:22] <zetheroo>  superkuh:  after reboot the entry in back in resolv.conf ... and I checked the other files in the path you mentioned and they don't have it
[09:22] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit glad to hear that！
[09:23] <Jenny_> trhnx spike can i run that from the boot cd
[09:23] <__unik> Cuz he dislikes combining free and nonfree software within ubuntu
[09:23] <superkuh> network-manager
[09:23] <superkuh> I always disable it but it comes enabled by default. Um. Try changing the file permissions.
[09:23] <ShrewdSpirit> snpresent, thank you dude
[09:23] <superkuh> So network manager can't get at it.
[09:24] <snpresent> Grant_P  and  what GPU you use
[09:24] <superkuh> zetheroo, http://debmintux.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/stop-resolv-conf-being-overwritten-by-network-manager/
[09:25] <Grant_P> snpresent: GeForce GTX 660
[09:25] <snpresent> ShrewdSpirit> yeah
[09:25] <Jenny_> grub-install: error: cannot open directory `/boot/grub/i386-pc': No such file or directory.
[09:25] <snpresent> Grant_P> let me check it out
[09:26] <Grant_P> snpresent: thanks.
[09:27] <Jenny_> I've this boot-repair log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:27] <snpresent> Grant_P now  pleasetry to install Chromium to see if there is same issue
[09:27] <Jenny_> I'd be grateful if anyone could check it for school girl errors :o)
[09:28] <zetheroo> superkuh:  chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
 what is your trouble?
[09:28] <Grant_P> snpresent: i'll give a try, may not trigger instantly
[09:28] <Jenny_> I've lost Grub!
[09:29] <ShrewdSpirit> Jenny_ then use boot-repair
[09:29] <Jenny_> I resized a partition... well I deleted 2 partitions, and merged the space with another
[09:29] <Jenny_> this is my error log from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:30] <Jenny_> it doesn't seem to finish successfully
[09:31] <snpresent> Grant_P then i will see if there have some bugs in Chrome display system
[09:31] <superkuh> zetheroo, I've not run into that. Another option is to remove the resolveconf package. All these things might break parts of network-manager.
[09:31] <Jenny_> thanks for your time on this guys!
[09:32] <superkuh> I guess unless you want to set up things manually you'll have to look into why network-manager is adding the search string.
[09:32] <Grant_P> snpresent: cool, ill load it up and let you know.
[09:33] <Grant_P> snpresent: you in here often?
[09:33] <snpresent> no
[09:34] <[jasper]> hej guys, I'm having a issue getting vdpau working: ERROR: (VDPAU) unable to init VDPAU - vdp_st = 0x1.  Falling back.
[09:35] <[jasper]> I have a VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[09:35] <[jasper]> is there anybody that could give me a hand here?
[09:35] <Jenny_> Anyone else info on Grub, or perhaps how I can reinstall Ubuntu safely without removing fiiles?
[09:35] <Grant_P> snpresent: lol, crashed. :)
[09:36] <Ben64> [jasper]: vdpau doesn't work on intel
[09:37] <[jasper]> hmm Ben64 not at all?
[09:37] <Ben64> [jasper]: as far as i know
[09:37] <metaspike> Jenny_, I would just try 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' reboot and see what happens
[09:37] <Grant_P> snpresent: http://pastebin.com/BuwMV9Gg <-- Segfault error message in syslog.
[09:38] <[jasper]> intel uses va-api right?
[09:38] <snpresent> Grant_P ok now ,open “about system” button  and see what driver you use to hold your GPU
[09:38] <Jenny_> thanks spike:
[09:39] <Jenny_> receive error: grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:39] <metaspike> wat -_-
[09:40] <Jenny_> lol i don't know cow?
 thanks that helps please wait
[09:42] <metaspike> Jenny_, sudo os-prober & grub-install /dev/sda
[09:42] <Jenny_> cow is listed under filesystem on this extract though http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:42] <metaspike> Jenny_, sudo os-prober & sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:43] <Jenny_> "grub-install: error: cannot delete `/boot/grub/i386-pc/terminal.lst" but it seems to be doing something?
[09:44] <Grant_P> snpresent: you mean in software and updates > additional driver?
[09:44] <metaspike> cannot get canonical path of cow... sorry dude, I don't know what to think anymore
 are you there?
[09:45] <hillary> assist me with a terminal command to create a file in ubuntu 14.04
[09:45] <Jenny_> no worries, thanks for your time and help!
[09:45] <Grant_P> snpresent: yeah i'm here. :)
[09:45] <metaspike> see if reboot works now anyway.
[09:45] <yocapybara> hillary: touch myfilename
[09:46] <hillary> thank you
[09:46] <Jenny_> it's not a windows machine :o)
[09:46] <Grant_P> So, i was using nvidia driver 331.38 (prop,tested) but then tonight switched to 304.117 and still seeing same issue.
 no ,i still need to know what open source  GPU driver you use,please let me know
[09:46] <Grant_P> snpresent: So, i was using nvidia driver 331.38 (prop,tested) but then tonight switched to 304.117 and still seeing same issue.
[09:47] <metaspike> Jenny_, you can now grub-install --recheck /dev/sda  ... then 'update-grub'.. check for errors,
[09:47] <__unik> it seems that installing driver for intel hd graphic controller is impossible
[09:47] <__unik> I don't have graphics card
[09:48] <Jenny_> grub-install: error: cannot delete `/boot/grub/i386-pc/terminal.lst': Permission denied.
[09:48] <snpresent> Grant_P so it is nvidia official GPU driver ,it is not open source i can't read the source ,please reinstall it
[09:48] <Jenny_> so I sudo !! and receive grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:48] <hateball> Jenny_: are you running grub-install with sudo? if not, you should
[09:48] <hateball> oh
[09:48] <JCT> i tried a theme on ubuntu but it didn't work out. is there a command line to completely reset the themes? is it separate commands, and should i put it in a sequence (&&)?
[09:49] <snpresent> Grant_P or use opensoure driver
[09:49] <JCT> ?
[09:50] <hateball> snpresent, Grant_P: fwiw I run gtx 770 with prop driver and have no problems in chromium. even enabled hardware decoding stuff. the only thing that crashes at times is pepper-flash
[09:50] <Jenny_> with sudo it gives me the cow error: grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.    wtf?
[09:50] <JCT> i need help!
[09:50] <Grant_P> snpresent: do you recommend reinstalling first?
[09:50] <Jenny_> & /cow is listed under the filesystem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513322/
[09:51] <JCT> help please
[09:51] <JCT> i want to reset to normal ubuntu themes
[09:51] <Ben64> JCT: be patient.
[09:52] <snpresent> Grant_P and do not use newest driver for nvidia gpu
[09:52] <utfans05_work> !patience | JCT
[09:52] <jishjish> guys is it possible to pass results from a FIND command in terminal to the copy command (cp)? like find . -iname "*.SomeExtension" | cp Destination Directory?
[09:53] <sakatovic> ciao
[09:53] <hateball> jishjish: use -exec, or the xargs command
[09:53] <JCT> it's hard when you have ADHD and you wait 3 minutes when you're used to having it answered quickly, but no one is obligated to that.
[09:53] <sakatovic> |lista
[09:53] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:53] <metaspike> Jenny_, try this: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot-sav/sdb1 /dev/sdb'  it seems /dev/sda is all windows, you will need to specify your second device on boot though
[09:53] <snpresent> Grant_P use lower version please it maybe work！
[09:53] <jishjish> hateball how do I know when you can use | pipe and when you have to use the exec option of find?
[09:54] <dupingping> How to get CD/DVD drive's cache size?
[09:54] <Ben64> snpresent: theres nothing wrong with the latest version of nvidia
[09:54] <metaspike> and the boot-rescue script doesn't know how to compensate
[09:54] <Jenny_> thanks spike, but it won't let the cow issue go grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[09:54] <Grant_P> snpresent: i used lower version already and had same issue. I'll try reinstalling though.
[09:54] <snpresent> Ben64 how you know that?
[09:55] <Jenny_> nah no luck, and I've run it an handful of times
[09:55] <sakatovic> ciao
[09:55] <Grant_P> hateball: thanks, i don't have pepperflash anymore on 14.04, from what i read its all packaged into chrome now?
[09:55] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:55] <Ben64> snpresent: because many many people use it
[09:55] <Jenny_> can I reinstalll without losing files?
[09:55] <Grant_P> hateball: but i cant see it actually in chrome://plugins
[09:55] <metaspike> personally, i would copy everything to an external drive, wipe and install linux
[09:56] <snpresent> Grant_P then uninstall it use open source version!
[09:56] <Jenny_> yeah I need office for work :o(
[09:56] <snpresent> Ben64 that's hard to say
[09:57] <sakatovic> Ciao
[09:57] <sakatovic> !lista
[09:57] <Jenny_> That might be my weekend project!
[09:57] <DJones> !piracy | sakatovic
[09:57] <Jenny_> thanks for your help guys!
[09:57] <IceBot3000> DJones: No-one mentioned piracy...
[09:57] <hateball> Grant_P: You could try running chrome/ium from a terminal and see if it spits out anything when it dies
[09:58] <metaspike> Jenny_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb, replace /dev/sd*# with /dev/sdb5  ,
[09:58] <metaspike> good lk
[09:58] <chalcedony> my husband recently switched to ubuntu 14.04, he has compiz and cairo-dock and LIKES them. but cairo-dock is locking his screen sometimes. some of the help ive googled tells me to look at System > Settings, im not used to his screen and he can't speak to tell me.. how do i find that?
[09:59] <love3> Can I install ubuntu to my phone
[09:59] <jishjish> love3: yes
[09:59] <IceBot3000> love3: Depends on the phone
[09:59] <Grant_P> snpresent: Thanks, will try. hateball cheers, i'll also try that too. Nice!
[09:59] <Grant_P> snpresent: hateball bbs
[10:00] <love3> Hmm interesting, can dual boot with android?
[10:00] <he11san9e1> got a problem with chrome after upgrade on ubuntu 12.04 chrome display gets blurry and distorted.. can someone help me with a fix
[10:00] <Jenny_> Thanks spike!  :o)
[10:03] <metaspike> uggh, that error will haunt me for a while
[10:03] <Jenny_> rebooting, so ciao for now
[10:03] <metaspike>  /cow indeed
[10:04] <Jenny_> haha cow for now :o)
[10:04] <love3> Shrew hmm yeah I'll Google that when I have a better phone I know the one l have isn't supported
[10:04] <popey> ShrewdSpirit: Ubuntu For Android was never released. there's a dual-boot option for Ubuntu Touch and Android side-by-side on the Nexus 4 though. cc love3
 please upgrade to 14.04
[10:05] <metaspike> chalcedony, click a blank space on the desktop, System > Settings should be at the top...
[10:05] <ShrewdSpirit> popey, I meant ubuntu touch ;) not ubuntu itself
[10:05] <popey> heh
[10:05] <metaspike> they're reffering to the menu
[10:05] <popey> ShrewdSpirit: its all too confusing! :D
[10:05] <chalcedony> metaspike, wow thanks :)
[10:06] <hillary> am unable to access http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ in ubuntu 14.04. what could be the issue
[10:06] <He4dShOt> Nexus 5 is not supported?
[10:06] <chalcedony> he really had no idea
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> popey, yeah :D I just forgot its name which was ubuntu touch :p
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 you can find some linux distros for your phone in xda-developers.com
[10:06] <IceBot3000> hillary: Apache isn't running?
[10:06] <love3> Shrew thanks
[10:06] <IceBot3000> hillary: (or other webserver)
[10:06] <ShrewdSpirit> love3 or try linux installer. you can find it in play store
[10:06] <jishjish> He4dShOt: let me know how you go my one gripe with Nexus 5 is battery life - hoping flashing to another rom will fix the problem.
[10:08] <hillary> IceBot3000:http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513545/
[10:08] <HewloThere> hillary: So it's easier for IceBot3000 to click, it's: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8513545/
[10:09] <HewloThere> What are you trying to do hillary?
[10:09] <hillary> sorry sorry
[10:09] <IceBot3000> hillary: What do the Apache logs show?
[10:09] <HewloThere> IceBot3000, what's hillary attemtping to do or what's wrong?
[10:09] <JCT> woah, it's been over 15 minutes and i still haven't got a personal reply.
[10:09] <hillary> am trying to am installing phpmyadmin
[10:10] <JCT> how do i reset the themes on ubuntu?
[10:10] <He4dShOt> jishjish, what are you using?
[10:10] <snpresent> i may know ubuntu's little secret.......
[10:10] <hillary> how do i check apache logs please
[10:10] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT thats why you should always make backup before installing themes that will replace the current one
[10:11] <JCT> well crap. the only thing i want is to change window indicator text to white
[10:11] <JCT> i'll scrnshot
[10:12] <jishjish> He4dShOt: I'm using teh stock image right now
[10:12] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT ok
[10:13] <Kolanis> I use an distro that is heavily based on Ubuntu although it's desktop environment is Xfce; if this distro shuts down, can I use Ubuntu's repos to update the distro?
[10:13] <JCT> http://imgur.com/7DE0mPP see what's so annoyingly black?
[10:13] <He4dShOt> jishjish, you should try franco's, it's amazing
[10:14] <JCT> how do i change that to white?
[10:14] <jishjish> He4dShOt: never heard of it can you link to download?
[10:14] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT, lemme open firefox. I'm using livecd and its soooo slow
[10:14] <JCT> i use Xgnome chat
[10:15] <JCT> if dats where it's at
[10:15] <snpresent> Kolanis yes you can
[10:15] <He4dShOt> jishjish, http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/kernel-franco-kernel-r53-t2508284
[10:15] <He4dShOt> JCT, what's annoying?
[10:15] <Ben64> snpresent: he's gone and thats not true
[10:16] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT maybe you can change the color in theme config files
[10:16] <JCT> that black text that indicates the window (barely able tosee it) >white
[10:16] <snpresent> Ben64 why?
[10:16] <JCT> how to config?
[10:16] <He4dShOt> JCT, ah ok I see it now
[10:17] <arquebus> JCT: you mean the color of the window panel on top? if that were Gnome you could just change your desktop theme
[10:17] <Ben64> snpresent: because only the repositories for a distro will work for that distro
[10:17] <JCT> ubuntu is a little bit uncustomizable without the proper coding skills
[10:17] <alex88> hi guys, I'm on an circleci instance (12.04) trying to install package libvips-dev
[10:17] <jishjish> He4dShOt: I don't get it is that an actual rom, it looks like just the kernel?
[10:17] <alex88> problem is https://gist.github.com/alex88/6b0d829b591a07af8a40
[10:18] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT try xfce. you can easily customize it ;)
[10:18] <alex88> after trying to install the deps, some can't be resolved
[10:18] <JCT> where to find xfce?
[10:18] <JCT> in software center?
[10:18] <snpresent> Ben64 i don't think so ,sorry for that,i even can use debian on ubuntu,so....
[10:18] <He4dShOt> jishjish, yes it's only the kernel
[10:18] <Grant_P> snpresent: even after using open source driver, i don't believe this is video card related.
[10:18] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <Ben64> snpresent: nope, using debian on ubuntu will break everything
[10:19] <ShrewdSpirit> JCT it will install another desktop environment alongside Unity
[10:19] <snpresent> Grant_P have you tried open source driver?
[10:20] <Grant_P> snpresent: yep, same issue
[10:20] <He4dShOt> xfce is pretty ugly tho
[10:20] <snpresent> what open source driver you use?
[10:20] <JCT> ugh what crap happened to the terminal? http://imgur.com/GgjNiPe
[10:21] <snpresent> Grant_P what open source driver you use?
[10:21] <Ben64> JCT: black text on black background maybe
[10:21] <metaspike> nothing wrong is xfce ;)
[10:21] <ShrewdSpirit> He4dShOt, xfce might seem ugly but its pretty customizable
[10:21] <JCT> i know
 and why i can use it?
[10:21] <jishjish> ShrewdSpirit: do you know if you can give the spacing and background for the xfce dock transparency (see through)?
[10:21] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, any solution for PDF files containing form fields and the "The document you are trying to load requires Adobe Reader 8 or higher." error ? I have tried, evice, gimp and even pdftk. thanks
[10:22] <yecril71pl> Why can’t I move a directory created as the superuser?
[10:22] <IceBot3000> lost_and_unfound: Install Adobe Reader for Linux
[10:23] <Ben64> yecril71pl: pastebin the error(s)
[10:23] <lost_and_unfound> IceBot3000: On the offical Adobe site there is no option for linux
[10:23] <cfhowlett> jishjish, yes you can set spacing and transparency
[10:23] <snpresent> lost_and_unfound> try to use firefox and Chrome to open it
[10:23] <lost_and_unfound> snpresent: have tried it, same error
[10:23] <ShrewdSpirit> jishjish you can set it
[10:24] <yecril71pl> Ben64: Błąd podczas przenoszenia pliku: Brak dostępu.
[10:24] <jishjish> ShrewdSpirit: thanks
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !pl | yecril71pl,
[10:24] <snpresent> Grant_P you there?
[10:25] <JCT> i feel like i can't even write commands on the terminal anymore
[10:25] <snpresent> lost_and_unfound the document Be encrypted
[10:26] <Grant_P> snpresent: apologies, system compltely froze, so if you said something i would have missed it.
[10:26] <Ben64> yecril71pl: ok, paste the command you're trying as well, along with the output of "ls -l <file>"
[10:26] <yecril71pl> That means ‘Access denied. ’
[10:26] <Grant_P> hateball: snpresent i think this is flash related, the reason why it's crashing (that's what i suspect).
[10:26] <yecril71pl> I cannot paste the command, I just drag the directory.
[10:26] <Ben64> yecril71pl: you can't drag as superuser
[10:27] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is not a dir
[10:27] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is not a file, it is a directory.
[10:27] <lost_and_unfound> snpresent: the document be starting to become a headache =]
[10:27] <Ben64> yecril71pl: technically directories are files
[10:28] <JCT> yay somehow it reset itself
[10:28] <JCT> i downloaded a tweaker
[10:28] <metaspike> technically, inodes. :)
[10:28] <yecril71pl> The directory is created as superuser, I drag it as myself.
i don't think so
[10:29] <Grant_P> snpresent: while this isn't the greatest comparison, firefox works fine.
[10:29] <Ben64> yecril71pl: well then you need to be root to move it, which you can't do in gui
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Ben64, gksu?
[10:30] <Ben64> cfhowlett: don't finish that command :S
[10:30] <yecril71pl> Ben64: I can drag a file created as a superuser but I cannot drag a directory created as a superuser.
[10:30] <yecril71pl> That is, I can drag them but the operation fails.
[10:31] <Ben64> yecril71pl: ok
[10:31] <yecril71pl> Ben64: Why do I need to elevate to move a directory but I can move a file all right?  It seems inconsistent.
[10:33] <Ben64> yecril71pl: depends where it is
[10:34] <JCT> i am trying to install zandronum on ubuntu.
[10:34]  * metaspike pictures someone accidently moving /etc to /dev - doh!
 firefox and chrome use different display methethod in linux
[10:35] <snpresent> sorry method
[10:35] <JCT> (Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/gtk3/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found) was in the terminal, and i needed that to install zandronum
[10:35] <Ben64> JCT: we can't support PPAs here, talk to the guy who runs that
[10:36] <snpresent>  Chrome use Aura
[10:36] <JCT> who?
[10:36] <Ben64> JCT: thats up to you to find out
[10:37] <yecril71pl> Ben64: It is in my home directory.
[10:37] <JCT> am i supposed to be able to modify system folders? i want to modify ~/usr/games, but it won't work
[10:38] <JCT> it isn't doing it
[10:38] <Ben64> JCT: ~/ is your home folder, you should be able to modify anything there
[10:38] <snpresent> any one love unity
[10:38] <ubuntu-studio> hi there.. can I run ubuntu with dual RAM?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> snpresent, some do.  some don't.
[10:38] <IceBot3000> snpresent: I use Unity for game dev :)
[10:39] <bazhang> snpresent, please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic for such issues
[10:39] <JCT> computer volume/usr/games/zandronum
 allright
[10:39] <ubuntu-studio> ?
[10:39] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, why not
[10:40] <ubuntu-studio> I want to upgrade my RAM memory later, just need to try for make sure
[10:41] <Grant_P> snpresent: any other ideas here?
[10:41] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, I have two 4GB RAM and everything works fine for me
[10:42] <ubuntu-studio> thank's shrewd
[10:42] <ShrewdSpirit> ubuntu-studio, np :)
[10:42] <iivvoo> hi
[10:42] <metaspike> JCT, yecril71pl. you should learn about basic permissions.. rxwrxwrxw user:group inode, chgrp chown, ls -lt ...
[10:43] <iivvoo> when I plug in an external monitor on my laptop, everything works fine
[10:43] <iivvoo> but as soon as the external display goes to sleep, windows are 'collected' back to the laptop desktop randomly (they don't even stay on the same virtual desktop)
[10:43] <iivvoo> which becomes a bit annoying after a while :)
[10:43] <iivvoo> 14.04 with unity
[10:43] <IceBot3000> iivvoo: Have you filed a bug report?
[10:44] <iivvoo> IceBot3000, not sure if it's a bug or just a configuration thing
[10:45] <metaspike> it's an annoying feature by the sound of it
[10:45] <nusr> what is a good screen recording software on linux?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> nusr, so many choices ... look in software center
[10:46] <metaspike> glc-capture is good but only for gl progs
[10:46] <nusr> there are 4 in software center, 1 with a 1 star rating
[10:46] <cfhowlett> nusr, so?  install all 4 (free), test and choose.
 try google-chrome --disable-gpu in Terminal
[10:47] <nusr> cfhowlett: ok..shotgun approach will work too
[10:47] <Jordy> Hi everyone - i want to install Cacti on Ubuntu Desktop, but I can't install it. sudo apt-get install cacti doesn't work. Does anyone know how I should install it?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !info cacti
[10:48] <ubuntuproccessno> hi guys, can you help me out gtting the proccess id of cron as an argument to a file excecution?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Jordy, what is the output: cat /etc/issue
[10:48] <snpresent> Jordy add ppa to install
[10:49] <ubuntuproccessno> i need it to g like this:  ./killer <proccess id> another_argument
[10:49] <cfhowlett> snpresent, it's in universe ... not a ppa
[10:49] <ubuntuproccessno> cron process id can be found using "pidof cron"
[10:49] <Jordy> chalcedony: 14.04.01
[10:49] <Jordy> cfhowlett: 14.04.1 LTS
[10:49] <metaspike> yup, maybe ./killer $(pidof cron) argument
[10:49] <snpresent> cfhowlett ok then
[10:50] <cfhowlett> Jordy, universe repo is enabled?  then sudo apt-get install shoud get it
[10:50] <ubuntuproccessno> metaspike -> you are the man!
[10:52] <metaspike> i doubt i'm -the- man, but thanks :)
[10:53] <metaspike> why would you want to kill cron? curiously
[10:55] <snpresent> what the hell
[10:58] <Jordy> cfhowlett: I enabled the universed repo. Another error occured now: php5-snmp, rrdtool, snmp has no installation candidate
[10:59] <metaspike> Jordy, apt-get update first...
[10:59] <cfhowlett> Jordy, this ^^^
[11:00] <metaspike> so does ubuntu have an option to disable amazon junk when installing yet? :)
[11:01] <IceBot3000> metaspike: Yes, it's called Debian
[11:01] <cfhowlett> metaspike, easily disabled
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !nolens
[11:01] <Jordy> cfhowlett: I get some 404 errors in my apt-get update log.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !paste | Jordy, paste
[11:03] <Jordy> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/yFmgcKWJ
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Jordy, fpaste.org         pastebin blocked by china firewall
[11:04] <Ben64> Jordy: why does it say old-releases???
[11:04] <__unik> lol lol cfhowlett I am sorry to say but China seems unpleased when citizens use US products
[11:05] <Svetlana> yFmgcKWJ repasted to http://fpaste.org/139844/12679871/ cfhowlett
[11:05] <Ben64> Jordy: what version of ubuntu are you running
[11:05] <cfhowlett> _unreal_, ehhh the great firewall blocks all kinds of strange things
  webproxy  with ssl https://www.xperienc.com
[11:05] <Jordy> Ben64: buntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Jordy, yep, what in the world is old-release doing there?
[11:06] <Jordy> chalcedony: How can i fix that?
[11:06] <Ben64> Jordy: ok, so how did you get old-releases in there? did you upgrade in a weird way? are you lying about being on 14.04?
[11:06] <Jordy> Ben64: I googled and tried a lot to install cacti
[11:06] <Ben64> Jordy: still doesn't explain old-releases
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Jordy, your sources will not work because 14.04 is not an old release.  rebild and replace "old release" entries. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[11:06] <Jordy> Ben64: That's the reason why you can find there a repo to old releases.
[11:07] <Ben64> Jordy: can you repeat that in english
[11:07] <snpresent> cfhowlett> your welcome
[11:08] <cfhowlett> snpresent, new one!  trying now.  thanks!
[11:09] <scotsguy> hey all
[11:09] <snpresent> what is your issues
[11:11] <metaspike> it's surprisingly quiet
[11:11] <cfhowlett> snpresent, <english teacher mode> your you're
[11:11] <cfhowlett> yore
[11:11] <metaspike> all issues resolved, close the channel, all done
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: not yet
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: how to shut down my system ?
[11:12] <__unik> metaspike: not quiet anymoar
[11:12] <snpresent> cfhowlett what you mean?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> snpresent, never mind
[11:13] <__unik> cfhowlett you ate dinner ah?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> __unik, yep
[11:13] <__unik> hola sounds cool lah
[11:13] <__unik> hola hola
[11:14]  * __unik not racist, just kidding
[11:16] <__unik> Unity and ubuntu software center is painfully slow in my computer
[11:16] <__unik> Am I the only one?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> __unik, sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4          logout/choose alternate desktop environment/login
[11:17] <__unik> cfhowlett: I am using gnome classic well.
[11:17] <__unik> thanks for advise
[11:17] <__unik> advice*
[11:22] <hillary> i need to install mysql, apache2 and php and phpmyadmin in my ubuntu 14.04. any good tutorial to do that?
[11:23] <DoctorWedgeworth> I'm trying to permit root password SSH login for a trusty box but I'm getting "ROOT LOGIN REFUSED" in auth.log. PasswordAuthentication yes is set, PermitRootLogin yes is set, it's not overridden elsewhere, there's no Allow or DenyUsers, and PAM isn't using pam_access.so or anything. Am I missing something in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <hateball> !lamp | hillary
[11:24] <hillary> exactly thank you
[11:24] <Jordy> cfhowlett:  I get a next error: php5-snmp : Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4) but 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.3 is to be installed
[11:27] <snpresent> please use ppa
[11:27] <snpresent> Jordy please use ppa
[11:28] <IceBot3000> You don't need a PPA for LAMP on Ubuntu
[11:29] <Jordy> snpresent: ppa?
[11:29] <__unik> Jordy: that's a googlable term.
[11:29] <__unik> google it
[11:29] <IceBot3000> *or a more reputable search engine
 maybe can solve something
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !lamp | Jordy,
[11:34] <Ben64> Jordy: seriously, what version of linux are you actually running
[11:36] <DrManhattan> what version of the install medium do I need to utilize sw raid?
[11:36] <DoctorWedgeworth> I'm trying to permit root password SSH login for a trusty box but I'm getting "ROOT LOGIN REFUSED" in auth.log. PasswordAuthentication yes is set, PermitRootLogin yes is set, it's not overridden elsewhere, there's no Allow or DenyUsers, ChallengeResponseAuthentication is set and PAM isn't using pam_access.so or anything. Am I missing something in Ubuntu?
[11:36] <DrManhattan> there doesn't appear to be an "alternate" install medium anymore
[11:37] <Ben64> DrManhattan: server perhaps, or mini
[11:37] <platzhirsch> I installed libtag1-dev but I cannot find the headers in /usr/lib, any idea where to look?
[11:37] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: that really isn't recommended
[11:38] <ShrewdSpirit> hello
[11:38] <metaspike> DoctorWedgeworth, root logins are a bad idea, try something else.
[11:38] <DoctorWedgeworth> it'll be fine Ben64 / metaspike, but any idea why it's not working?
[11:39] <ShrewdSpirit> I've just installed xubuntu but when I turn on my laptop it grub doesnt show windows and it only boots xubuntu
[11:39] <ShrewdSpirit> BTW I have windows 8.1 and it was using GPT which I removed it to install linux :D
[11:39] <DoctorWedgeworth> the ROOT LOGIN REFUSED is coming with a preauth addendum in the logs, not sure if that's relevant
[11:40] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: whats wrong with using sudo
[11:40] <metaspike> DoctorWedgeworth, have a look in /var/log/sshd.log
[11:40] <metaspike> and consider there's alot of things that try to prevent root logins, including apparmor / selinux
[11:41] <snpresent> DoctorWedgeworth have you set password for root
[11:41] <IceBot3000> Ubuntu doesn't use SELinux
[11:41] <metaspike> preach, preach
[11:41] <hateball> !root
[11:41] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: is this a physical machine or a vps ?
[11:42] <metaspike> ubuntu itself its pretty well 'anti-root'
[11:42] <DoctorWedgeworth> I've set the root password so it's not that, it's a physical server
[11:42] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: can you su -
[11:43] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:43] <DoctorWedgeworth> yeah su - works (just tested it). There is no sshd.log, but auth.log just says  ROOT LOGIN REFUSED
[11:43] <sakatovic> !lista
[11:43] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:43] <hillary> Thank guys phpmyadmin running well.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:43] <sakatovic> !lista
[11:43] <DJones> sakatovic: There are no lists
[11:44] <ikonia> DoctorWedgeworth: you have restarted sshd ?
[11:44] <ikonia> (after making the changes)
[11:44] <DoctorWedgeworth> yeah ikonia :) good check though, I've made that mistake before
[11:44] <DoctorWedgeworth> I might run the daemon with debug flags
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 find PermitRootLogin no
[11:46] <sakatovic> ciao
[11:46] <CiSense> hi, i have a 32 bit 14.04 installed on one drive, is it ok to install a 64 bit version  on another drive using the "alongside" option?
[11:47] <ikonia> CiSense: not something I'd recommend, but you can do it
[11:48] <CiSense> ikonia, not recommend?
[11:48] <ikonia> yes
[11:49] <CiSense> why not?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> CiSense, agreed.  choose a lane.  32 bit or 64 bit.
[11:49] <CiSense> i want to compare performance withouit destroying my working 32 bit system
[11:49] <DrManhattan> ok guys, any help at all? ubuntu 14.04 on software raid?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !raid | DrManhattan
[11:50] <DrManhattan> this was really easy on 12.04 with the alternate iso
[11:50] <Ben64> CiSense: 64 is not going to be worse
[11:50] <CiSense> Ben64, I'm hoping it will fix some nvidia driver issues
[11:51] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, that page is not pertinent to 14.04
[11:51] <DoctorWedgeworth> urgh it was a problem with the init script. /etc/init.d/ssh *anything* wasn't affecting the running process. I kill -9'd it and it's re-read sshd_config now. Thanks for your help
[11:52] <Ben64> DoctorWedgeworth: you should start using "service"
[11:52] <__zug__> Hi, I woke up this morning and noticed that I don't have any sound. I've already checked if it's on mute, which is not the case. What else can I check? I've never had this happen before, fairly new laptop too.
[11:53] <Guest2757> I have a laptop running Windows 8 pre-loaded. I'd attempted to install Ubuntu 12.04 on it earlier, but that wasn't working for some reason. I installed Trusty now, and rather foolishly opted to remove the earlier Ubuntu installation. The problem is... Trusty isn't starting either. But my concern is now related to the fact that grub doesn't even show the Windows IS on startup. Did I lose my Windows? AFAIK, I'd put Windows in hiberna
[11:54] <DrManhattan> lubuntu has an alternate image. Where is the alternate image for straight Ubuntu?
[11:54] <metaspike> __zug__, alsamixer? /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart? there's like a billion things you could try
[11:54] <DJones> DrManhattan: Alternate images no longer exists for Ubuntu
[11:54] <lorentedford> I have a question regarding 14.04 LTS with Nvidia and intel graphics card dual graphics on my laptip
[11:54] <lorentedford> I have a question regarding 14.04 LTS with Nvidia and intel graphics card dual graphics on my laptop
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Guest2757, depends on exactly what options you chose and what your hardware is.  possibly you removed windows.  but you have your windows restore disk handy, right?
[11:55] <DrManhattan> DJones, how do we do software raid installs now?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> lorentedford, ask
[11:55] <metaspike> Guest2757, change your nick please :) and.. does gparted show a ntfs volume?
[11:55] <DJones> DrManhattan: Its not something I've done so I can't make a suggestion for that
[11:56] <Guest2757> cfhowlett - Nope. not with me right now.. :(
[11:56] <dsafdsdfssdfdsfd> helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :hel
[11:56] <lorentedford> what is the best way to install both graphics cards i get this error that opengl does not eiist with many of my programs however cant figure out why i am having so many issues when i can still use silverlight
[11:56] <snpresent> DoctorWedgeworth what is urgh means?
[11:57] <DoctorWedgeworth> it's a noise people make in anger sometimes
[11:57] <DJones> DrManhattan: Section 6 of this guide may be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/install.en.pdf
[11:57] <cfhowlett> Guest2757, suggest you fix windows THEN install Ubuntu.
[11:57] <cable> heh cfhowlett ^^!
[11:57] <cable> Is that even possible? :p
[11:57] <geirha> spam fail :)
[11:57] <lorentedford> lol windows will fail every time lol...
[11:58] <Guest2757> metaspike - don't know.. how do i check?
[11:58] <metaspike> Guest2757, search for gparted
[11:59] <lorentedford> did you say gparted works with windows 8 but will toast the drive for 7?
[11:59] <lorentedford> lol.. learned that one the hard way
[11:59] <DrManhattan> DJones, I appreciate it. I think it's ridiculous that ubuntu simply threw out support for sw raid in the installer. At least lubuntu still has an alternate image.
[12:00] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#software-raid          seems to be current
[12:00] <requiem8> hello
[12:00] <metaspike> Guest2757, or if you can get a terminal running, do a 'lsblk' and tell me what the ntfs partition is
[12:00] <safiyyah> My X server is broken. On the Nvidia X Server Settings it says that ' Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page: The NVIDIA X driver on safiyyah:0.0 is not new enough to support the nvidia-settings Display
[12:00] <safiyyah>  From the last installation my notes say the 173 driver is the right one and all others don't work because my card is Nvidia Geforce 8400
[12:01] <safiyyah> help anyone?
[12:01] <requiem8> I have a problem I have xubuntu and sometimes the wireless got disconnected and I dont know why
[12:01] <metaspike> Guest2757, "Alt+Ctrl+T"
[12:01] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, that is for for 12.04, not 14.04.
[12:01] <requiem8> If I reboot the wireless come back
[12:02] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[12:02] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#software-raid
[12:03] <DrManhattan> cfhowlett, thank you. Server edition it is.
[12:03] <cfhowlett> DrManhattan, happy2help
[12:04] <snpresent> requiem8 install wick please
[12:04] <snpresent> sorry wicd
[12:05] <requiem8> what is wick ?
[12:05] <snpresent> requiem8 sorry wicd
[12:05] <safiyyah> DJones, nice to see you, any idea about my issue?
[12:05] <snpresent> requiem8 wicd
[12:06] <metaspike> safiyyah, what did you do before this happened? try dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-settings
[12:06] <snpresent> safiyyah please use open source driver
[12:06] <metaspike> or that
[12:06] <metaspike> prop. drivers such a hassle
[12:07] <requiem8> snpresent Ok installation finish
[12:07] <requiem8> I launch wicd  now ?
[12:07] <safiyyah> metaspike I changed the wallpaper on the gdm, and it broke
[12:07] <snpresent> yes ，hope it will work
[12:08] <requiem8> ok
[12:08] <metaspike> ah... then dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:08] <requiem8> launched
[12:08] <metaspike> maybe, im guessing :)
 then ....
[12:09] <requiem8> nothing happened
 not load wlan0
[12:09] <snpresent> ?
[12:10] <safiyyah> metaspike do I want gdm or light gdm?
 try load wlan0
[12:10] <poizen> does any of you use Steam on Linux?
[12:10] <requiem8> ok how ?
[12:10] <safiyyah> gone to reboot
[12:11] <cfhowlett> poizen, millions do
 use your mouse right click wicd
 then configure it
[12:11] <jodfsdfmcsmelly> helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :helloPRIVMSG #ubuntu :hell
[12:12] <qlr> hello?
[12:12] <qlr> is this an ubuntu?
[12:12] <ikonia> hello
[12:12] <ikonia> it is
[12:12] <qlr> neat!
[12:12] <requiem8> ok im in wicd
[12:12] <cfhowlett> qlr, ask your ubuntu questions
[12:12] <requiem8> I can configure my network
[12:12] <qlr> neah, im fine, thanks
[12:13] <qlr> i just installed xchat and ... here i am :)
 it works?
[12:13] <requiem8> yeah
 issue solved
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:15] <requiem8> yeah I wait and I see if my wireless get disconnected again
 maybe
[12:16] <poizen> i'm facing major issues cfhowlett , my computer crashes while playing global offensive
[12:16] <qlr> didn't x-chat used to have a "black theme"?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> poizen, could be steam, could be your hardware ...
[12:18] <poizen> probably steam, my hardware drivers and my system is updated
[12:18] <poizen> also, my hardware doesn't have any flaws :) cfhowlett
[12:18] <cfhowlett> ... o k
[12:20] <qlr> okay guys
[12:20] <qlr> i kinda have an ubuntu question :)
[12:20] <qlr> i apparently somehow  mindlessly set up the locale for ro-RO
[12:21] <qlr> or ubuntu detected it at install time or whatnot
[12:21] <qlr> and thats annoying and i would like us-En locale...
[12:21] <cfhowlett> qlr, romania?
[12:21] <emx> how do i install projectlibre?
[12:21] <qlr> yesh :)
[12:21] <metaspike> could be worse :)
[12:21] <cfhowlett> qlr, it happens. there is a command - wait 1
[12:22] <qlr> cfhowlett, but like my konsole is okay
[12:22] <emx> i could download an rpm, but i guess there is another way.
[12:22] <qlr> but delphin and skype and whatnot are all romanian :)
[12:22] <cfhowlett> qlr, so you do NOT want romanian?
[12:22] <metaspike> lol
[12:22] <qlr> nope
[12:22] <qlr> why would i?
[12:22] <qlr> iso 8600 all the way, baby
[12:23] <metaspike> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:23] <cfhowlett> metaspike, ^^^ this one I think - also purge unwanted languages from language support
[12:23] <qlr> it generates a lot of locales
[12:23] <qlr> liek a heckton of en_
[12:24] <qlr> and one ro_
[12:24] <qlr> how do i... remove all of them besides en_US.UTF-8?
[12:24] <qlr> or how do i set or check the default locale?
[12:25] <qlr> (im used to centos and gentoo but only on server side, last time i was using X compiz-fusion was crashing every 10 seconds)
[12:26] <snpresent> that's how could i say
[12:26] <OverCoder> the #ubuntu channel has a lot more users than #windows one :P
[12:27] <RemuN> hey I need help getting to a TTY, when I press ctrl+alt+F1 I just get a blank screen
[12:27] <RemuN> I tried booting into text mode, same blank screen
[12:27] <qlr> update-locale LANG=the-locale-that-i-want
[12:27] <qlr> cfhowlett, is this what i was looking for? :D
[12:28] <cfhowlett> qlr, yep
[12:28] <qlr> srsly tho...didn't xchat have a black theme?
[12:28] <qlr> my eyes are burning out
[12:29] <requiem8> Ok I think now its work
[12:29] <requiem8> thank for the help
[12:29] <snpresent> requiem8 yeah
[12:30] <qlr> cfhowlett, something similar to xampp on windoze?
[12:30] <qlr> (its a lamp stack but has perl as well)
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !lamp | qlr,
[12:30] <requiem8> ok see ya
[12:31] <snpresent> see ya
[12:33] <qlr> cfhowlett, looks pretty straight forward... recommanded gui sql client? (on windoze i was using sqlyog)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !sql | qlr,
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[12:34] <cfhowlett> qlr, errr wait 1.  gotta slap the factoid bot around
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !alis
[12:34] <regebro> Hello again Ubuntu. I'm sorry I cheated on you with Fedora. My workmates told me it was a good idea. They said EVERYONE thought Fedora was nicer than you. They were wrong. I'm back. Please don't tell my boss.
[12:34] <qlr> wait wait wait
[12:35] <qlr> isn't Fedora yum based? :D
[12:35] <cfhowlett> qlr, debian based.  ask about sql in #ubuntu-server
[12:35] <cfhowlett> qlr, in fact, as you seem server-centric, ask #ubuntu-server
[12:39] <lmat> My terminal doesn't have any menu items. Is this normal?
[12:39] <lmat> When I maximize, then move my mouse up to the top bar, only close, minimize, and maximize buttons show up.
[12:39] <qlr> found a promising mysql client... MySQL Workbench, so im gonna check that out and get the lamp stack up and running, tyvm for ur help cfhowlett and metaspike (and ubottu lol)
[12:40] <cfhowlett> qlr, happy2help
[12:40] <Wollie88> @lmat yes this is normal on the stock terminal
[12:41] <boriseto> How to change the default video player in Firefox? Does somebody know how to make it VLC (specific)? For example: when I have totem installed (with the mozilla plugin) it takes totem in mind, if it's deleted it takes the default video player of mozilla.
[12:41] <lmat> Wollie88: I was nearly positive that there were some options, like startup-sizing, etc. Oh well ^_^
[12:41] <lmat> Wollie88: What I'm looking for now is how to change the colour scheme. That dark purple background is too bright and the bright white lettering is too bright, too
[12:41] <lmat> It'd be nice to have a darker theme.
[12:42] <Wollie88> why not install an other more configurable terminal emulator ?
[12:43] <tahr202921> hi
[12:43] <Mi_37183> Hi, could someone make me a "é" in utf-8?
[12:44] <DJones>  +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:45] <steffen> How can I time an application and send its output to /dev/null but
[12:45] <steffen> 	  still reveive the output from time?
[12:46] <steffen> or in other words: how can i put parenthesis in the command line? I want something like: time (myapplication > /dev/null)
[12:49] <steffen> hahaha, it works with the parenthesis xDD!!
[12:49] <sui> steffen: why do you need parenthesis?  you can use time myapp 1>/dev/null
[12:49] <sui> -1
[12:50] <possiblyscrewed> @cfhowlett, @metaspike - Hi guys, I was on here a while ago, with my problem of a broken installation of Trusty on a machine that already had Windows 8 installed. I managed to get to another computer - but here's the entire problem. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8514350/
[12:50] <SASDOE> if you want you can `time func() {your_app > /dev/null};your_app
[12:50] <SASDOE> No
[12:50] <steffen> sui: yes that works too, but why does it not pipe the output of time to /dev/null? what does the 1 change in this?
[12:51] <SASDOE> your_func() {your_app>/dev/null}; time your_func
[12:52] <BluesKaj> possiblyscrewed, are you running ubuntu atm?
[12:52] <sui> steffen: forget the "1" if you don't need any output - why do you want to time it?
[12:52] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - well..I'm on a different PC..
[12:52] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, hibernate?  what were you thinking?  nevermind.  I suspect you'll have to reinstall windows, but ask ##windows if there's an option to restore from your recovery disks- oh wait.  Remember your FIRST windows boot?  Where you were warned/advised to make a recovery disk?  ##windows is your friend
[12:53] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - I'll post on windows.. but is there no way to recover the data
[12:53] <possiblyscrewed> ?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ask windows.
[12:54] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - I do have access to the command line login for the new Windows installation
[12:54] <susundberg> steffen: also see time parameter '--output' - time output defaults to stderr
[12:54] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, you MIGHT be able to boot an ubuntu usb but since it's in hibernation, I believe it's locked
[12:54] <cable> cfhowlett locked? :p
[12:54] <cable> and windows?
[12:54] <cable> wait whut?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> cable, hibernated
[12:54] <BluesKaj> possiblyscrewed, have you tried sudo update-grub on ubuntu to restore grub
[12:55] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - Well, in any case, logging in from a fresh session also would require a logon password.. so it's not too bad though is it?
[12:55] <cable> cfhowlett is it a externall device?
[12:55] <cable> so yes you're screwed :p
[12:55] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, you're asking all the windows questions here?  ##windows is your spot
[12:56] <cable> force a shutdown on the machine and try again xD
[12:56] <cable> is all I could say for now :p
[12:56] <possiblyscrewed> BluesKaj - no, I'd have to install grub first and connect to the net... I'll have to connect with a wired ethernet connection, as I'm on a college campus. Plus, I'd have to configure proxies
[12:56] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - sorry.. I'll take it over there
[12:58] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: to me it sounds like your grub is only wasted -- it should be quite easy to fix
[12:58] <yash> my sound card is not detected, only the video card : /
[12:59] <yash> when I run aplay -l I can see it there
[12:59] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: just boot to ubuntu and see with 'parted' command that windows partition is still there -- if it is, it surely can be recovered. If not, then you are screwed (you need paid help to recover the data)
[12:59] <yash> but when I check alsamixer it's dead
[12:59] <BluesKaj> then what is it , yash ?
[13:00] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - That's comforting. I'm asking over on ##windows too.. but d'you have an idea of how to go about fixing it?
[13:00] <yash> BluesKaj,  ?
[13:00] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: yeah -- but i am leaving from work soon, so i cannot be here long helping out
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yash, dead, what do mean ?
[13:01] <yash> oh I mean that I can't raise the volume
[13:01] <yash> it says S/PDIF
[13:01] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - right.. on it.. D'you mean 'parted' or 'gparted'?
[13:01] <yash> and that's it, no pcm
[13:01] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, from terminal run lsblk
[13:01] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: first you need to have internet connection (to chat with us here on irc) and to boot the machine to be rescued to ubuntu command line
[13:01] <metaspike> is there an ntfs partition?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> how about some details yash, the audio chip fore example
[13:02] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: parted, as you said you dont have graphical interface
[13:02] <ubuntuser13> Gparted ERROR:  informating kernel about partition modifaction. unable to mount on partition.
[13:02] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: also metaspike had good suggestion, lsblk should be easier
[13:03] <yash> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/qDJNVYBf
[13:03] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg - yeah.. I don't have internet access on that laptop, but I'm on a desktop which does, and have the laptop next to me.
[13:03] <susundberg> possiblyscrewed: thats fine
[13:03] <lmat> Wollie88: Oh, didn't know there are any!
[13:04] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - I'm logged in to the CLI on the laptop now
[13:04] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - ...and no... there doesn't seem to be an NTFS partition
[13:05] <yash> BluesKaj, http://imgur.com/yfAG1NX
[13:05] <otacon8710> ciao
[13:05] <otacon8710> list!
[13:05] <IceBot3000> !es | otacon8710
[13:05] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, sorry.. lsblk -f
[13:05] <BluesKaj> yash, open a terminal and do: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , if there's terminal no output than the driver loaded properly, then reboot . It's a known bug with some intel audio drivers.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> oops if there;s no terminal output , yash
[13:06] <sls> #als
[13:06] <metaspike> 'sudo lsblk -f' no less
[13:06] <sls> hello
[13:06] <yash> got no output, rebooting BluesKaj
[13:07] <metaspike> yash
[13:07] <farva> is there a text copy of this irc history?
[13:07] <yash> metaspike,
[13:08] <metaspike> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:09] <Pici> !logs | farva
[13:09] <farva> ty guys
[13:09] <metaspike> oic.. why reboot? /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[13:09] <pngl> I have a problem with my touchpad. It gets disabled some time after reboot - I can still press-to-click, but not move the mouse nor tap-top-click. I have a Lenovo laptop so I can still use the trackpoint, but it's annoying! I've tried 'xinput set-prop <touchpad id> "Device Enabled" 1' with no result.
[13:09] <metaspike> hmm. maybe im just making that up
[13:11] <pngl> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[13:12] <yash> BluesKaj, still
[13:13] <possiblyscrewed> susundberg, metaspike - sorry guys, got disconnected.. are you still around? As I said.. lsblk doesn't display an ntfs partition
[13:13] <metaspike> did you try 'sudo lsblk -f'
[13:14] <yash> metaspike, http://imgur.com/M8U1ttB
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - no, simply lsblk
[13:14] <BluesKaj> yash,make sure automute in alsamixer is disabled
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - sudo lsblk -f shows me sda
[13:14] <lmat> Wollie88: What terminal emulator do you use?
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> (sda1 vfat /boot/efi
[13:14] <metaspike> yash, does your soundcard show up in alsamixer when you hit f6?
[13:14] <possiblyscrewed> sda2 ext4
[13:15] <possiblyscrewed> sda3 swap
[13:15] <possiblyscrewed> and sr0
[13:15] <Wollie88> lmat: i use terminator
[13:15] <yash> metaspike,  yup it's on the 0 index
[13:16] <lmat> Wollie88: Ahh, do you use tmux?
[13:17] <Wollie88> lmat: i use screen
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yash, F6 to choose the soundcard if you don't want just spdif
[13:20] <BluesKaj> gotta go...bbl
[13:20] <lmat> Sometimes, I run commands with verbose outputs. They hog the whole bandwidth of the console such that I can't even switch consoles.
[13:20] <yash> I do choose the soundcard but nothing changes
[13:21] <lmat> I press ^c, but I still have to wait a *long* time for the buffer to run out or something.
[13:21] <lmat> How can i get around this?
[13:22] <metaspike> yash, i suggest trying this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and looking into dmesg... and see what 'pulseaudio --start' does, incase its not loading
[13:22] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - sorry, disconnected again. Flaky connection. So, there was no ntfs partition displayed using either sudo lsblk -f or simply lsblk. Simply typing parted doesn't display any device either.
[13:24] <LYC4Nbeat>  /msg NickServ identify secretpassword
[13:24] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, lets assume you've formatted your drive with ubuntu.
[13:25] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - so that's it then? No way to recover the data?
[13:25] <metaspike> well.. there's this: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[13:26] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ^celta^^ good luck with that
[13:26] <possiblyscrewed> cfhowlett - celta?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> possiblyscrewed, ignore
[13:29] <LYC4Nbeat> join
[13:35] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - Been reading the CGSecurity page. Won't boot-repair help? Doesn't it do something similar? Otherwise, I guess that's it then. I'll have to check it in for professional support (don't know if they'll help with step by step recovery though). Thanks for the help!
[13:35] <metaspike> possiblyscrewed, http://en.altlinux.org/Regular in your position i would boot from this and run test-disk, as further disk writes remove shadow blocks
[13:37] <helmut_> hi
[13:38] <hdtune2k> hi
[13:39] <possiblyscrewed> metaspike - thanks. To make doubly sure => Boot off a liveUSB session of Alt-linux, connect to the web, download and install test-disk, and then run it? Which flavvour under "main" on that link should I use?
[13:40] <hdtune2k> I want to know about how to prevent my linux to be attack from a wifi network via Mitm
[13:41] <metaspike> any flavor, depends on your style. cd burn could be easier. it comes with testdisc, and photorec. two great recovery options.
[13:41] <vbgunz> anyone know Nvidia persistenced daemon constantly says failed on every bootup?
[13:41] <metaspike> you will need a seperate drive to copy recovered data too
[13:41] <cfhowlett> hdtune2k, https everything and use ssl whenever possible.  also enable ufw
[13:42] <hdtune2k> But seems like the arpspoof utilities can catch SSL information
[13:43] <hdtune2k> Can I lock my router's MAC address?
[13:43] <metaspike> i doubt you can hide it, but you can usually spoof it
[13:43] <hdtune2k> ok
[13:44] <hdtune2k> Thanks
[13:46] <nido> when i log in to a ubuntu 12.4lts server i get a message saying "N packages can be updated. M  updates are security updates."; is it possible to get an overview of which packages have specifically security updates?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !server | nido