[05:46] <toulouse> lol
[05:46] <juano_> J0HN: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try manually configuring resolution
[05:46] <toulouse> i dont like bush, i come in peace
[05:46] <math_> ;)
[05:46] <J0HN> i've looked at that file before
[05:46] <toulouse> well, i got to get onto my physics :|
[05:47] <Tenric> I did like Bush until a few weeks ago when I finally saw the light.
[05:47] <math_> good luck with homework
[05:47] <Tenric> I'm Libertarian now.
[05:47] <J0HN> i'm just not really able to do much
[05:47] <J0HN> and when i look at this:
[05:48] <J0HN> !resolution | J0HN
[05:48] <ubotu> J0HN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:48] <J0HN> when i look at that ^^^^^^, i notice the documentation is out of date (sort of)
[05:48] <Math^> variant, it was subversion, not svn :P
[05:48] <lovloss> me again...  an AM2 slot is different from an A slot isnt it? :(
[05:48] <J0HN> it's for ubuntu drapper drake, and i have east est or whatever it is
[05:49] <tonsofpcs> how can I get java working on ff ? is it in apt somewhere?
[05:49] <jrib> !java | tonsofpcs
[05:49] <ubotu> tonsofpcs: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:49] <jrib> tonsofpcs: sun-java-plugin  for firefox
[05:49] <jrib> tonsofpcs: sun-java5-plugin  for firefox
[05:49] <tonsofpcs> thanks
[05:50] <juano_> J0HN: by editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can go to display section and add your resolution, that probably can able you to change it
[05:50] <juano_> J0HN: section "screen" to be exact
[05:51] <itanshi> is there some procedure i need to go through as a newly installed edgy eft era nub?
[05:51] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[05:51] <itanshi> i had a bunc of instalations fail on me and wireless is unchanged despite getting i believe the right ndiswrapper
[05:52] <J0HN> i see what you mean
[05:52] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable postfix as a send-only mail server.  I'm doing web development on a laptop connected to the web through a commercial router & cable modem.  Who can help me out?
[05:52] <cstrippie> itanshi - are you by chance trying to use a broadcom wifi chip?
[05:52] <J0HN> and then after i hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, i can go to system>prefrences>screen resolution and choose it?
[05:52] <itanshi> yep
[05:52] <cstrippie> My last laptop was so equipped - I was never able to get ndiswrapper to work
[05:53] <itanshi> mm
[05:53] <cstrippie> You're using edgy, right?
[05:53] <itanshi> yes, i'll ask again tomorrow, tis late, thanks tho
[05:53] <juano_> J0HN: its worth a try yea, though you probably would have to restart X for changes, in case you cant restart X, just re-edit xorg.conf and leave it as it was
[05:53] <marltu> how to get packages for kompiling?
[05:53] <marltu> apt-get?
[05:53] <J0HN> this has happened to me MANY times: i change the res, and it doesn't recognize it! at least in windows, it would revert back to default after 10 sec if you don't say it worked...
[05:53] <marltu> *compiling
[05:53] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[05:54] <nagromo> Hey, I've got a probelm with Firefox's speed: I can download/use apt with high speeds, but when I go to gmail.com or google.com in firefox, I usually get a timeout; once in a while it works. I can ping sites with 0 packet loss and <100ms latency, though.
[05:54] <J0HN> how do i restart X?
[05:54] <nagromo> JOHN: CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[05:54] <Andymeows> ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:54] <J0HN> ooh, yah, i know about that key command. didn't know that's what it was doing, lol.
[05:54] <juano_> J0HN: ctrl + alt + F1 /  login as root / init 3 , then init 5
[05:54] <marltu> how to get packages for compiling?
[05:55] <rioghal> juano_, he shouldn't be able to log in as root as that is not supported and insecure.
[05:55] <J0HN> (is "X" the equivalent to "Explorer" in Windows [or "Finder" in mac] ?)
[05:55] <jinx099> nagromo: Try disabling IPv6
[05:55] <Slingky> hi guys
[05:55] <juano_> rioghal: mm you could be right,
[05:55] <khoa> JOHN, no
[05:55] <J0HN> also, i'm running from the live cd, as my installed ubuntu is configured to a screen res that doesn't work correctly
[05:55] <Slingky> does somebody may help me with CAPS LOCK ?
[05:56] <Slingky> it works like SHIFT LOCK and it's not what i want...
[05:56] <spasti> hi .ubuntu people !!!
[05:56] <rioghal> hi spasti
[05:56] <atoponce> i have a business card created in .svg, and i need to get it into OpenOffic.org. is this possible?
[05:56] <J0HN> well, i'm restarting X, if i don't respond it means i have to reboot from the live cd, redownload xchat... and will be back in a few min...
[05:56] <atoponce> i want to print them myself
[05:57] <J0HN> brb as i do this... wish me luck, lol
[05:57] <atoponce> i want to print both a front and back image, and keep the text as clear as possible
[05:58] <atoponce> so, maybe OOo isn't the way to go for this. but i would like to get about 10 on a page, all aligned
[05:58] <J0HN> hey, i'm back
[05:58] <J0HN> i restarted X
[05:58] <J0HN> and my resolution is still the same
[05:58] <juano_> J0HN: any luck?
[05:58] <J0HN> nope
[05:58] <elyon225> Taladan: Still around?
[05:58] <jack_> yo.. i have xubuntu installed on my laptop right now (pentium 3 256 mb ram) am i ok to install ubuntu on their or do you guys think I should stick with xubuntu
[05:59] <spasti> ubuntu people are all good people .have nice heart.
[05:59] <Taladan> vaguely...going to bed soon though
[05:59] <J0HN> in system>prefrences>screen resolution, it only lets me select 800x600 still
[05:59] <jack_> ???
[05:59] <elyon225> jack_: The only difference is that Xubuntu uses Xfce and Ubuntu uses Gnome...
[05:59] <elyon225> jack_: You can install gnome on there, I believe.
[05:59] <juano_> J0HN: which video card you got
[05:59] <jack_> really?
[05:59] <jack_> hmm
[06:00] <elyon225> Taladan: Just wanted to let you know that Crtl-Alt-F1 did nothing when my system crashed after logging off.
[06:00] <J0HN> ati, onboard graphics on my amd motherboard
[06:00] <Taladan> jack_: to 'install' ubuntu on there type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <J0HN> ati 200 something...
[06:00] <Taladan> elyon225: did you try F2 instead?
[06:00] <Xecho> My ATI card worked after using the Alternate installer and disabling the frame buffer.
[06:00] <elyon225> jack_: Then when you're logging in, just choose the session you want.
[06:01] <elyon225> Taladan: Yes, I tried F1, F2, Crtl-Alt and Crtl-Alt-Shift combos... nothing.
[06:01] <J0HN> on the live cd (for some reason, not when in the installed ubuntu), it recognizes the vid card name and stuff, same with the monitor
[06:01] <juano_> J0HN: on windows you can do 1024x768?
[06:01] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to .../cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in .../cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[06:01] <J0HN> i can do 1440x900, which this monitor was specifically designed for
[06:01] <J0HN> i can do 1024x768 too though
[06:02] <Taladan> elyon225: did you check /var/log/messages?
[06:02] <elyon225> Taladan: Nothing that I would think is an error message.
[06:02] <juano_> J0HN: yea.. when you boot with live cd you can do that reS?>
[06:02] <J0HN> i'm in the live cd right now
[06:02] <Taladan> elyon225: did you check ~/.xsession_errors
[06:02] <J0HN> and no luck
[06:02] <Taladan> ?
[06:02] <juano_> J0HN: you probably need the proper ATI driver
[06:03] <spasti> from livecd CAN I install ubuntu?
[06:03] <juano_> !ati
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <J0HN> (mainly cuz when i do the terminal command that gives me prompts about my setup, and when i choose to define my resolution, and i choose 1440x900, the only hz it offers is 100! i think 60 would work, but 100 for some reason doesn't and 60 isn't offered...
[06:03] <juano_> J0HN: you tried that?
[06:03] <magnet0> Hi
[06:03] <mena> Friends I had Already the Clam Anti virus Unstalled And I Cant Find It in the menu
[06:03] <Xecho> spasti - Yes.
[06:03] <magnet0> is there an easy way with the latest ubuntu version to add my windows partition to the grub list
[06:04] <mena> sorry installed
[06:04] <J0HN> i'm trying that right now
[06:04] <spasti> Xecho;that's great !
[06:04] <elyon225> Taladan: I don't see that file.
[06:04] <rioghal> mena, I believe clamav is a cli app
[06:04] <Taladan> er
[06:04] <Taladan> ~/.xsession-errors
[06:05] <Taladan> my bad
[06:05] <elyon225> ~ is home, right?
[06:05] <Taladan> Yeah
[06:05] <rioghal> yes
[06:05] <mena> rioghal, ok
[06:05] <Math^> Were do I download wineX, or do I have to buy Cedega for playing win-games?
[06:05] <Taladan> and any file that begins with a '.' is a hidden file.
[06:05] <Taladan> to see hidden files type 'ls -a'
[06:05] <Math^> Were can I download wineX, or do I have to buy Cedega for playing win-games?
[06:05] <Slingky> Does somebody may help me with xkboptions ???
[06:06] <elyon225> Taladan: Okay, that lists a few font errors and a gtk warning... that's it.
[06:06] <J0HN> what's the address to xorg.conf again?
[06:06] <Taladan> elyon225: what's the gtk error?
[06:06] <J0HN> it's /etc something...
[06:06] <rioghal>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[06:06] <juano_> J0HN: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <J0HN> thanks
[06:07] <bulmer> find / -name xorg.conf
[06:07] <elyon225> Taladan: Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -3 and height 24
[06:08] <Taladan> that doesn't sound like it'd cause a freeze.
[06:08] <J0HN> that file has the full name of my graphics card, "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS482)" - just so i know when doing these ati drivers...
[06:09] <elyon225> Taladan: Just that and a bunch of fontconfig errors... a couple other lines, but they don't seem like error messages.
[06:09] <Taladan> I don't know what to tell you man.  You might try and see if there's an update for your window manager/display manager...Other than that it's gonna take someone with deeper bug tracking skills than I have at the moment.
[06:09] <Tonren> Guys, my wife left me, I crashed my car, my cat died, my laptop is almost out of batteries and I have a headache.
[06:09] <elyon225> Taladan: Alright.  Thanks for your help, though.
[06:09] <rioghal> Tonren, You're now qualified to write a country song
[06:09] <elyon225> Tonren: That poor lappy...
[06:09] <jb0nd38372> lmao
[06:10] <Taladan> sorry I couldn't help more
[06:10] <Tonren> Ok.. I just needed SOMEONE to respond to me for once.  XD
[06:10] <Taladan> may just be looking in the wrong place for it
[06:10] <elyon225> Taladan: I still appreciate it.  Just a very annoying problem...
[06:10] <elyon225> I can't exactly keep linux if it does this so often.
[06:10] <Tonren> elyon225: What's the story, dude?
[06:11] <elyon225> Tonren: I'd say that every other time a user logs out, the system freezes.  White screen, frozen mouse, keyboard doesn't work... I have to reboot.
[06:11] <elyon225> Its done it 5 or 6 times now tonight.
[06:11] <milo> hello
[06:11] <Tonren> elyon225: This is a multi-user machine?  Laptop or desktop?
[06:12] <Tonren> elyon225: How much would you say you know about this kind of thing?
[06:12] <Taladan> elyon225: Try the update, that might be a quick fix to your problem.
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: Yes, three users (family) and its on a desktop.
[06:12] <elyon225> Taladan: I have no idea how to do that.
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: I've had Linux for 3 weeks...
[06:12] <elyon225> Tonren: Reinstalled it twice...
[06:12] <meklort> hi
[06:12] <Tonren> elyon225: Don't worry 'bout it.  I was just askin.  Which version are you on?  6.06? 6.10?  Did this used to be a Windows computer?
[06:13] <elyon225> Tonren: I have edgy (6.10).  And yes, I still have windows installed...
[06:13] <elyon225> (haven't used it since switching, though)
[06:13] <mena> where to repot a bug
[06:13] <mena> report
[06:14] <mena> ! bug
[06:14] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:14] <meklort> Any one have experience with multi-seated x11 installs?
[06:14] <Tonren> elyon225: Okey doke.  This sounds kind of like an Xorg problem.  Xorg is the program that's the core of all the graphics on your computer.
[06:14] <Tonren> elyon225: Do you know how to pastebin stuff?
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: Yes.
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: I need the link for the ubuntu one again, though.
[06:15] <Tonren> elyon225: Just type /topic into your IRC chat.  It's in the channel's topic.
[06:15] <Tonren> elyon225: Do me a flava fave, and pastebin the contents of dmesg.
[06:15] <elyon225> ok
[06:15] <elyon225> Tonren: Remind me how to output that to a file?
[06:15] <J0HN> ati driver downloading...
[06:15] <Xecho> An upgrade requires I enter my Xubuntu CD. I put it in and it mounts to .../cdrecorder, but the app asks for it in .../cdrom and won't see it. How can I fix this?
[06:16] <bobby> heyyy
[06:16] <Tonren> elyon225: Sure.  Do you know how to open a terminal?
[06:16] <elyon225> Tonren: Yep.
[06:16] <J0HN> off topic of my issue, i have a question. why does it seem that installing/configuring linux (compared to Windows) seems so damn difficult.
[06:16] <elyon225> Tonren: Just don't remember the syntax for it.
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: sudo umount cdrecorder
[06:17] <elyon225> J0HN: Because its not as easy as Windows ;)
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: sudo mount /media/cdrom
[06:17] <Tonren> elyon225: Ok.  When you type "dmesg" into the command line, it outputs everything right in front of you - it's outputting to something called "STDOUT".  There are special ways of redirecting STDOUT.
[06:17] <J0HN> for example, requiring me to go into the terminal and type "make" while at the folder of what i wanna install
[06:17] <Xecho> Thanks!!!
[06:17] <gdb> er that other is /media/cdrecorder
[06:17] <J0HN> then i get errors that follow
[06:17] <gdb> Xecho: that *might* work
[06:17] <Xecho> Ok.
[06:17] <Xecho> I'll try it.
[06:17] <default> Hello
[06:17] <Taladan> Xecho: If you're using a GUI, go into adept and go Actions->Manage Repos, and right click CD repo and disable it.
[06:17] <jadi> and also if you use package managers, it might be easier
[06:17] <Tonren> elyon225: One of then is >, which redirects STDOUT to a file.  So, if you are in your home directory and you type dmesg > dmesg.log, it'll create a file called "dmesg.log" and fill it with the output.
[06:17] <Taladan> that'll permanently disable it from asking for the CD ;)
[06:17] <elyon225> J0HN: Because Linux allows you to totally customize HOW the program works, is installed, and is compiled... windows doesn't.
[06:18] <elyon225> Tonren: ah...
[06:18] <J0HN> i don't mind opening up random binary files as long as they pass my virus scan first. granted it could still be a virus, but i back everything up and consider myself pretty damn good in windows.
[06:18] <Tonren> elyon225: Did that make no sense?
[06:18] <nagromo> jinx099: Wow. Disabling ipv6 in firefox's about:config at least quadrupled my performance, and I'm not getting timeouts now. Thanks a ton.
[06:18] <rioghal> J0HN, It's difficult to create a single one-click install package when the various Linux distros use either .rpm or .deb or.tgz or other types of packages. This is where the repos come in quite handy.
[06:18] <J0HN> elyon225: i understand that, but what about the newbs that would rather just have a working app?
[06:18] <jadi> Is the date/month of the next major release known ? I want to immigrate from FC to Ubuntu but I think it is better to wait and do it at the next release. when is it ?
[06:18] <elyon225> Tonren: Nope... it made perfect sense (I have a LOT of PC experience dating back to pre-windows... so command line is nothing new to me... just gotta learn the new commands and syntax for linux)
[06:19] <elyon225> J0HN: That's what #ubuntu is for ;)
[06:19] <J0HN> rioghal: that makes sense
[06:19] <Tonren> elyon225: Great.
[06:19] <J0HN> elyon225: hehe, good point
[06:19] <jinx099> nagromo: I've been hearing a lot of reports with the same results.  I dont know what the issue is, IPv6 being enabled causes no problems for me
[06:19] <elyon225> Tonren: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014/
[06:19] <J0HN> k, ati drivers finished downloading a min ago. brb
[06:20] <puff> What's the best ipod-management app for ubuntu?
[06:20] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:20] <J0HN> GRR!! i tried running the file, i get the message: "Could not open the file /home/ubuntu/Desktop/atiler-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run"
[06:20] <Tonren> J0HN: For a lot of people, Ubuntu Linux installs without a hitch.  The people you see in here are either A) the unlucky ones or B) the experienced ones who want to help Category A.  ;P
[06:20] <Tonren> J0HN: What are you trying to do?
[06:20] <default> Using Synaptic I wanted to install the recent update for libc6 and libc6-dev. But something went wrong. I got a dependencies error
[06:20] <Taladan> elyon225: if you're into reading much, check out 'Linux in a Nutshell'.  That's the bash man pages (pretty much) in an indexed and readable format.
[06:20] <yuesefa> there's a dependency error while install mono
[06:21] <yuesefa> apache-mono
[06:21] <default> and a bit more like that, e.g. Error: BrokenCount > 0. Now, the error seems to connected to the libc6-dev.
[06:21] <default> To clean up the dependency-errors I would like to remove the libc6-dev but then I get a list of further *-dev packages that need to be removed including g++.
[06:21] <juano_> J0HN: did you try with ./ before the file
[06:21] <J0HN> i'm trying to open the ati driver installer i just downloaded
[06:21] <blanky> default: do you have sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:21] <J0HN> eh? i just hit the "Open" button from the Downloads window in Firefox...
[06:21] <juano_> ./atiler-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run J0HN
[06:21] <elyon225> Taladan: I've got a LOT of intro linux sites bookmarked
[06:21] <J0HN> that's an abbreviation of the name anyway...
[06:21] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:21] <default> Question: can I remove the libc6-dev and further *-dev files without damaging my system?
[06:22] <default> blanky: yes, its installed
[06:22] <elyon225> Taladan: Just waiting for the time and patience to get into them.  Plus, I'd like to have Linux fully up and configured and SECURE before I get to into it.
[06:22] <Tonren> elyon225: Any luck with the dmesg posting?  I actually have to be someplace soon, but I'd like to try to help you out before I go if I can.
[06:22] <juano_> J0HN: enter a terminal, go to the file dir, type sudo ./filename
[06:22] <blanky> if you don't mind me asking, what's the package that you're trying to install?
[06:22] <elyon225> Tonren: I thought I already sent the link  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1014/
[06:22] <jadi> Is the date/month of the next major release known ? I want to immigrate from FC to Ubuntu but I think it is better to wait and do it at the next release. when is it ?
[06:22] <Tonren> elyon225: I must've missed it somehow.
[06:22] <Taladan> elyon225: The intro sites are good, but they only go so far.  As far as security, it's fairly well secure out of the box, as long as you're using rational username and password schema.
[06:23] <elyon225> Taladan: Secure was the wrong word... I meant stable ;)
[06:23] <default> blanky: i think my problem is already described at the following link but its too complex and dangerous for me to solve it that way so I'd prefer to remove the libc6-dev:http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
[06:23] <Taladan> heh
[06:23] <Taladan> well, sometimes that can be a chore, yeah.  But you learn a bunch and once it's stable, it's rock solid.
[06:23] <J0HN> i think i found the ati drivers in Synaptec
[06:23] <J0HN> Synaptic^
[06:23] <blanky> default: libc6-dev is used a lot
[06:23] <J0HN> i'm gonna give it a try... brb
[06:23] <juano_> J0HN: well then download that
[06:24] <Tenri1> I downloaded and installed the correct driver for my graphics card, but the card still isn't working, and the system doesn't recognize it.
[06:24] <default> blanky: right, but is it needed for RUNNING the system or only for compiling code? I mean, can I restart my system and so on WITHOUT the libc6-dev or is it actively needed?
[06:24] <juano_> Tenri1: wich card nvidia?
[06:25] <blanky> default: i doubt you actively need it
[06:25] <Tenri1> juano: ATI
[06:25] <blanky> default: and you tried the site you mentioned?
[06:25] <Tenri1> raidon mobile x1300
[06:25] <juano_> !ati | Tenri1
[06:25] <ubotu> Tenri1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:25] <Tenri1> *raedon
[06:25] <Tenri1> ok, thanks
[06:26] <Tonren> elyon225: Did this crash occur at all today or yesterday?
[06:26] <rioghal> s/raedon/radeon/
[06:26] <elyon225> Tonren: Both... the most recent was about 45 minutes ago
[06:26] <default> blanky: thats what i needed to know before removing it thus removing the dependency error
[06:26] <farkr> in fdisk when i type 'l' to list partition types how come it shows 2 entries for NTFS? 86) NTFS volume set and 87) NTFS volume set. which do i use?
[06:26] <elyon225> Tonren: It happens a LOT... almost every time a user logs out.
[06:27] <blanky> default: im really sorry but I'm really busy right now, I have lots of homework :'( but I have a feeling your problem is fixable, I believe there's some type of force or flush command, I forget what it is though
[06:27] <Tonren> elyon225: OK.  If it's happened today, paste the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  (I couldn't find anything in dmesg)
[06:27] <blanky> default: sorry :(
[06:27] <Tonren> elyon225: I probably won't figure it out BTW.  I'm no developer or anything.  I just kinda know my way around.  Sorry if I got your hopes way up.  :\
[06:27] <default> blanky: no problem, thanks for your help!
[06:28] <Taladan> Tonren: better have him tail it and paste that instead of pasting the whole thing
[06:28] <blanky> default: no problem, sorry I couldn't really help :( maybe if you still have the problem tomorrow, I can help out
[06:28] <elyon225> Tonren: If you can't help, its quite alright.  I appreciate the attempt.  Here's the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1015/
[06:28] <Tonren> Taladan: Good call, but too late ;P
[06:28] <Xecho> Taladan - How do I disable the need for the CD again? I'm using Xfce
[06:29] <juano_> long live Konversation
[06:29] <jinx099> juano_: You misspelled "gaim"
[06:30] <Pie-rate> How would I start another X in another TTY for running fullscreen games?
[06:30] <farkr> i dont see the point of gui irc personally
[06:30] <Taladan> Xecho: if you can run adept in there, go to Adept->Manage repositories then R.Click the CD repo and choose 'Disable'.  Then apply, then okay.
[06:30] <default> Question: I need to remove approx. 15 *-dev packages, g++, build-essentials and libc6-dev to resolve a dependency error. Do I need any of the files mentioned to run my system (booting, X-window) or are they only used for compiling matters???
[06:30] <Xecho> Is there a command for opening Adept?
[06:30] <Taladan> there's a command line command for it, or you can just comment it out of /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:30] <Taladan> Yeah - adept
[06:30] <Xecho> lol ok
[06:30] <Xecho> I'll try it one sec...
[06:31] <Tenri1> how do I uninstall my graphics card driver?
[06:31] <rioghal> Tonren, Xchat, Settings -> Advanced -> URL Handlers.. add this as a command: !firefox -remote 'openURL(%s)'   That's what I have and firefox opens links from xchat when I right-click and choose "Open link in browser"
[06:31] <Tonren> elyon225: Crap.  I have to get going.  But I do notice two distinct types of errors in your Xorg log.  Look at lines 1022 - 1105 and 1171 - 1188.  This "drmOpenMinor" thing is screwing up, as is your settings for Wacom Tablet.
[06:31] <Tonren> elyon225: Thouhg I don't have any direct suggestions, it'd be a good idea to Google chunks of the error messages.  If you don't find anything, search ubuntuforums.org for people who've had your problem.  If all else fails, post in Ubuntuforums.
[06:31] <elyon225> Tonren: Yeah... I don't have a tablet.  But go, bud... thanks for taking a look!
[06:32] <juano_> Tenri1: did you install a package?
[06:32] <lyml> how do I do to install the opera webbrowser, i tried searching in synaptics, but it just gave me a bunch of garble, and i tried using sudo apt-get install opera, but it returned an error
[06:32] <juano_> from synaptic?
[06:32] <Tonren> rioghal: There's an "Open link in browser" sitting there that doe snothing.  :\
[06:32] <Tonren> elyon225: You can also ask around to see if someone will help you edit your Xorg.conf file to REMOVE references to the Wacom tablet, since you don't need them.
[06:32] <Tonren> elyon225: Good luck!
[06:32] <juano_> lyml: best would be to download it directly from opera.com and download deb package from there
[06:32] <Tonren> Gotta run, all
[06:32] <Tenri1> juano: yeah, and then I realized that there's an appropriate driver in the add/remove apps program
[06:33] <default> does anyone has a second for my question, please?
[06:33] <arrenlex> elyon225: Sorry, just curious: what problems are you having?
[06:33] <juano_> !ask | default
[06:33] <ubotu> default: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:33] <Tenri1> juano_: but it says I have to uninstall the old one first
[06:33] <Xecho> Nope.
[06:33] <default> Question: I need to remove approx. 15 *-dev packages, g++, build-essentials and libc6-dev to resolve a dependency error. Do I need any of the files mentioned to run my system (booting, X-window) or are they only used for compiling matters???
[06:33] <Xecho> There is no adept command
[06:33] <Xecho> Nor canI find it.
[06:33] <Xecho> There's a Software Sources manager...
[06:33] <Taladan> ACPI....maybe it's trying to sleep on close?
[06:33] <lyml> in the user guide it says i should try to avoid installing without the packages, is there really no way to download it with the package manager?
[06:33] <rioghal> lyml, opera isn't in the official repos, you'll need a 3rd party repo or get it from the opera site.
[06:34] <farkr> asking to ask a question is a contradiction
[06:34] <Xecho> But I think the underlying problem is that it's automounting to /media/cdrecorder instead of /media/cdrom.
[06:34] <juano_> Tenri1: if its from a deb package then it would be dpkg-packagename
[06:34] <lyml> ok
[06:34] <farkr> Xecho did you install adept? that comes with kde/kubuntu but not gnome/ubuntu
[06:34] <Tenri1> juano: nope; dot-run
[06:34] <Taladan> Xecho: yes, but if you're connected to the net, you don't need that active.
[06:34] <juano_> lyml: www.opera.com
[06:35] <Infragilis> Question: Is anyone here using a Sound Blaster card in 6.10?
[06:35] <default> It is probably the error mentioned at the following website: http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems - dependency error: libc6 upgrade fails - but the way it is described to solve to problem is too dangerous to my mind
[06:35] <juano_> lyml: linux support is good
[06:35] <Xecho> Xubuntu
[06:35] <J0HN> i did the synaptic install of the ati driver
[06:35] <J0HN> but now what do i do?
[06:35] <Xecho> It still asks for it whilst online.
[06:35] <farkr> i thought linux doesnt support soundblaster cards, or does it now?
[06:35] <Xecho> It's annoying.
[06:35] <JAAmon> NEED A WESTIE
[06:35] <juano_> J0HN: for changes in video you need to restart X
[06:36] <J0HN> i tried continuing forward with the directions in the documentation, but i don't know if it just did everything
[06:36] <Taladan> Xecho: do this - look for a line in /etc/apt/sources.d that looks like this:
[06:36] <Taladan> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)] / dapper main restricted
[06:36] <juano_> Tenri1: im not quite sure how you could uninstall it
[06:36] <J0HN> i guess i'll just restart x and see if that does it
[06:36] <Infragilis> Specifically, I'm trying to add my sound card's module to the /etc/modules file in nano, but I do not know how to save the modules file while in nano.
[06:36] <JAAmon> I need a western ringer ya hear
[06:36] <arrenlex> Taladan: You mean .list? =P
[06:36] <J0HN> brb in a few min
[06:36] <Taladan> and put a # symbol in front of that(those) lines
[06:36] <Taladan> yes
[06:36] <Taladan> not .d
[06:36] <Pie-rate> how would i start another X in ctrl-alt-f6?
[06:36] <Taladan> .list
[06:36] <Xecho> Can I just change that line to read "cdrecorder"?
[06:36] <Taladan> thanks arrenlex, braindead over here.
[06:36] <Xecho> Instead of cdrom?
[06:36] <arrenlex> Taladan: It's okay. I mixed up my kernels and my wines earlier and told someone the newest version of wine was 0.2.28 xD
[06:36] <farkr> Pie-rate no and why do you wanna do that :p
[06:36] <Pie-rate> fullscreen games?
[06:37] <JAAmon> west ringer with assless chaps plz
[06:37] <rioghal> J0HN, Did you read this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:37] <marc_> how do I restart gnome panel?
[06:37] <A[D] minS> !evolution
[06:37] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[06:37] <Pie-rate> i've been told to do that repeatedly, yet no one knows HOW to do it
[06:37] <Xecho> Taladan: Can I just change that line to read "cdrecorder"?
[06:37] <rioghal> marc, killall gnome-panel   it'll respawn
[06:37] <Taladan> Xecho: No
[06:37] <juano_> Tenri1: though you could try installing the synaptic package of ATI, i got nvidia actually, thats why i dont know much bout ATI never really configured ATI
[06:37] <A[D] minS> how i can export all my mails from evolution ?
[06:37] <Taladan> Not to my knowledge
[06:37] <J0HN> hey
[06:37] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: You can't in ctrl+alt+f6 unless you disable gettys. You can in ctrl+alt+f8
[06:37] <J0HN> no changes
[06:37] <JAAmon> I need a west ringer. Please. Thank you.
[06:37] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: startx -- :1
[06:37] <steelb> how do i reconfigure the x server?
[06:38] <marc_> rioghal: ty
[06:38] <arrenlex> Pie-rate: (Warning: Standard "command I never use pulled out of foggy memory" disclaimer)
[06:38] <Xecho> lol the thing is that I don't care if asks for the disk, so wouldn't it be easier to just mount the disk to cdrom instead of cdrecorder? Or is that vastly difficult or something?
[06:38] <rioghal> steelb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <jughead> hello, I use ubuntu and I installed KDE using "sudo aptitude install KDE"  I selected gdm as my login manager.  When I try to start a KDE session I get an error telling me to make sure the dcopserver program is running.  what is that/
[06:38] <steelb> thanks
[06:38] <Tenri1> juano_: The Add/Remove Applications program says it conflicts with the previously installed driver and that I have to uninstall the other one first.
[06:39] <Xecho> I just don't want to be masking a problem for a single situation.
[06:39] <Taladan> Xecho: Honestly I don't know man.  You can try it, but make sure you backup sources.list before you go dinking around too heavy with it.
[06:39] <juano_> rioghal: you know solution to Tenri1problem?
[06:39] <Xecho> Ok.
[06:39] <rioghal> juano_, no :(
[06:39] <Xecho> I mean there IS a sources manager. I can just remove the CDRom area listed.
[06:39] <Taladan> Just commenting it out is how you stop it though.
[06:39] <Xecho> It's in GUI and eerything.
[06:40] <juano_> rioghal: k
[06:40] <Tenri1> I think I may have it. hold on
[06:40] <Taladan> That'll work too
[06:40] <arrenlex> jughead: Is the kdebase-bin package installed?
[06:40] <sp33dw> Trying to use minicom to connect to network device but I get this error:     minicom: cannot open /dev/ttys0: Input/output error
[06:40] <J0HN> grr! the directions call for editing xorg.conf, but i can't edit it! it's read only!
[06:40] <juano_> Tenri1: ill try searching some.. ill try to come up with something
[06:40] <Taladan> And now I've gotta go get some sleep
[06:40] <Xecho> Night, thanks!
[06:40] <sp33dw> any ideas?
[06:40] <juano_> J0HN: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:40] <J0HN> thanks
[06:41] <juano_> J0HN: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:41] <arrenlex> jughead: In answer to your "what is it" question, dcop is a communication protocol which allows KDE applications to talk to one another. Or you to talk to them.
[06:41] <J0HN> what's the diff?
[06:41] <juano_> J0HN: try second comment, ignore first
[06:41] <J0HN> k
[06:41] <juano_> !gksudo
[06:41] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[06:41] <jughead> arrenlex, kdebase-bin package is installed
[06:41] <rioghal> juano_, Not a good idea to use sudo with a GUI app, that's what gksudo is for.
[06:41] <J0HN> thanks
[06:41] <threeonefour> what is a good vcd utility for ubuntu
[06:41] <juano_> rioghal: read back , i corrected it
[06:42] <rioghal> juano_, Ah, yes, good job
[06:42] <juano_> rioghal: :)
[06:42] <Tenri1> be back
[06:42] <arrenlex> jughead: Does KDE let you log in? Or does it kick you out?
[06:43] <threeonefour> what is a good vcd creation utility for ubuntu
[06:43] <jughead> arrenlex, it kicks me out.  the error appears right after the splash screen appears.  when I click "ok" it goes back to gdm
[06:44] <arrenlex> jughead: Do you know about the virtual terminals?
[06:44] <jughead> no arrenlex
[06:44] <arrenlex> jughead: I'm assuming you also have and want to use gnome on this system?
[06:44] <jughead> yes arrenlex, I have fluxbox installed as well
[06:44] <jmspeex> crimsun: got news about the Speex update?
[06:45] <tom_> hey guys i've broken my sound and i'm not sure how to get it working again, can anyone help out?
[06:46] <checkmate> will there ever be native quicktime player for linux?
[06:46] <checkmate> or is apple against it
[06:46] <arrenlex> jughead: run the "dcopserver" command in gnome\fluxbox\whatever. See what it says.
[06:47] <juano_> checkmate: no itunes support from apple to linux :( dunno quicktime
[06:47] <arrenlex> checkmate: What do you have against w32codecs? :)
[06:47] <juano_> checkmate: mplayer + xmms + kaffeine does it all
[06:48] <jughead> arrenlex, there was no terminal output
[06:48] <checkmate> ah i got nothing against anyone (except windows probably), i just think it's wierd these big companies will support each other but not the little guys
[06:48] <arrenlex> jughead: That may be either good or bad.  For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:50] <juano_> Aggort: Synaptic manager
[06:51] <riotkittie> Aggort: what kind of app - something you've downloaded? or from the repos?
[06:51] <Aggort> downlaoded.... from GnomeFiles.... right now it's VLC
[06:51] <jughead> arrenlex, it did not work.  the error says "could not read network connection list. /home/matthew/.DCOPserver_matthew-laptop__0"
[06:52] <arrenlex> jughead: And there's nothing weird about your home dir?
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vnc
[06:53] <riotkittie> errr
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vls
[06:53] <jughead> arrenlex, there is no file by that name in my home dir
[06:53] <riotkittie> errr
[06:53] <riotkittie> Aggort: do this instead. open a term and type ...  sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:53] <Aggort> k
[06:53] <Aggort> lol
[06:53] <Aggort> ritokittie: Do I do that for all apps I download??
[06:53] <arrenlex> riotkittie: do this instead. close your eyes, take a deep breath, take your fingers off the keyboard, take a short walk, and come back in five minutes.
[06:53] <juano_> Aggort: yes as long as you know the package name
[06:54] <Moosejaw> whats the best ubuntu/linux software review site?
[06:54] <juano_> Aggort: or else --->  alt + F2 then type synaptic
[06:54] <diskus> is there such thing?
[06:54] <arrenlex> jughead: You could temporarily try kdm and see if it works. But I don't know what's wrong; everything you described sounds fine. Don't see why that file is missing.
[06:54] <Aggort> It didn't find it
[06:54] <Aggort> All it was was a folder
[06:54] <Dasnipa> that and the 'best' is a hard thing to define. especially when the word 'review' is involved since reviews are opinions
[06:55] <Aggort> do i need to keep it in the t.gz?
[06:55] <riotkittie> if you're looking for something and don't know the package name, you can 'apt-cache search' or use synaptic's search
[06:55] <clearzen> My friend has quotes that appear when he logs on to his slackware box via ssh. He said that it was part of a package called bsd games. Does anyone know how I could get this to work with ubuntu?
[06:55] <Moosejaw> Dashipa:  I am bored and just want some quality ubuntu/linux sites to peruse
[06:55] <diskus> Moosejaw: http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/ there's something, google helps
[06:55] <riotkittie> keep what in the t.gz?
[06:55] <Moosejaw> diskus:  Wouldnt you agree that google doesnt always come up with quality links...and often times the community here knows better?
[06:55] <arrenlex> clearzen: the bsdgames exists in the repos.
[06:55] <satix> hey all
[06:56] <arrenlex> !bsdgames | clearzen
[06:56] <ubotu> bsdgames: a collection of classic textual unix games. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17-8 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 2344 kB
[06:56] <Aggort> riotkittie: the file to install I don;t understand
[06:56] <klees> is there a way to tell Amarok to use ID3v2 instead of v1???
[06:56] <robtp> hi everyone: most of my F* keys dont work
[06:56] <robtp> help?
[06:56] <robtp> klees: im pretty sure not
[06:56] <riotkittie> the file = vlc?
[06:56] <Aggort> I dowloaded it it's in  a gz file
[06:56] <jughead> arrenlex, I need to add something to my path.  do you know how to do that?
[06:56] <Aggort> riotekittie yes
[06:56] <arrenlex> Aggort: You're trying to install a .tar.gz? That's a source tarball -- an archive (like .zip) of a program's source code, which you have to compile before you run it.
[06:56] <klees> robtp: will it use ID3v2 if I remove v1 tags??
[06:57] <robtp> klees: i dont know, read up on taglib which is what it uses for tag parsing i believe
[06:57] <Aggort> I extract the vlc folder inside
[06:57] <arrenlex> jughead: If your question is "what do I need to add to my PATH", I have no idea. If your question is, "I need to add /usr/foo/bar to my PATH," I can.
[06:57] <juano_> Aggort tar -xvf name.tar.gz to unzip it
[06:57] <riotkittie> Aggort: type "sudo apt-get install vlc" in a term. this will download the file and install it for you, as vlc is available in the repos
[06:57] <klees> robtp: k thx
[06:58] <Aggort> sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:58] <Aggort> returns
[06:58] <Aggort> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[06:58] <threeonefour> how to convert from ogg to mp3
[06:58] <somerville32> !find vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> Found: libvlc0, libvlc0-dev, mozilla-plugin-vlc, vlc, vlc-nox (and 8 others)
[06:58] <somerville32> !vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:58] <jughead> arrenlex, yes, someone with a similar problem added /etc/X11R6/bin to their path and it worked
[06:58] <somerville32> !info vlc
[06:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[06:58] <Aggort> I'm on dapper btw
[06:58] <daftvader> !network
[06:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:58] <juano_> Aggort: open up synaptic manager and add multiverse and universe to the repos
[06:58] <clearzen> arrenlex: I do have it installed but it still does not show the random quotes when I log in via terminal. Any ideas?
[06:58] <somerville32> !repositories | aggort
[06:58] <ubotu> aggort: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:58] <daftvader> !network
[06:58] <daftvader> !networking
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <arrenlex> clearzen: Nope. I've never messed with anything like that.
[06:59] <daftvader> hi
[06:59] <daftvader> how can i access a network drive through the cli?
[06:59] <Pie-rate> how would i play fullscreen 3d games in a different tty?
[07:00] <satix> Whats the network Q?
[07:00] <satix> pie-rate: what game are you trying to play?
[07:00] <Pie-rate> satix: ut2004
[07:00] <daftvader> how can i access a share network folder in the cli
[07:00] <satix> You installing from a CD?
[07:00] <daftvader> no
[07:00] <Rio> is there a way to start a remote desktop session without being logged on to the machine? REF http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Remote_Desktop_Sharing.2FDuplication_via_VNC
[07:00] <Aggort> these repos confuse me. I dowbnloaded VLC from GnomeFiles and it was a GZ then I extracted it to desktop
[07:00] <daftvader> i have two linux boxes
[07:01] <daftvader> i want to access the network folder in the cli
[07:01] <satix> Ok, So you want setup a network share on one drive and acess through your switch?
[07:01] <riotkittie> Aggort: what about repos confuses you?
[07:01] <juano_> Aggort: and when you enter the VLC dir, can you find a "configure" file?
[07:01] <satix> pie-rate : you installing from a CD?
[07:01] <daftvader> yes
[07:01] <satix> Which ver of ubuntu?
[07:02] <emss> why not just aptitude install vlc?
[07:02] <Aggort> riotkittie: Nevermind I read something and it jsut clicked I get it lol ... Are there a lot of repositories?
[07:02] <Pie-rate> satix: that doesn't matter, its already installed. i want to play in a different tty
[07:02] <juano_> Aggort: enable multiverse and Universe repos
[07:02] <arrenlex> jughead: Problem is, I'm not sure whether that needs to be added to root path or to user path.
[07:02] <Aggort> if I new what aptitude isand how to use it
[07:02] <Aggort> lol
[07:03] <Pie-rate> since alt-tab doesn't work properly with any fullscreen apps in ubuntu
[07:03] <Pie-rate>  /sigh
[07:03] <Naik0> When i configuring torsmo i get this error,
[07:03] <Naik0> checking for X... no
[07:03] <Naik0> Sorry, X is very much needed
[07:03] <Naik0> i have X so i dont understand anything :P
[07:03] <riotkittie> Aggort: uhmmm i believe that there are others that can be added manually but i am not positive. if there are, they are something used at your own risk
[07:03] <arrenlex> jughead: Try user's path first, I suppose... add this to ~/.bashrc: export PATH=$PATH:/etc/X11R6/bin
[07:03] <Aggort> juano figured that out, but where all can I egt these repositories?
[07:03] <satix> It plays fine in a window?
[07:03] <riotkittie> Aggort: are you doing this in X?
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: install the x-dev package
[07:04] <riotkittie> Aggort: do you have Synaptic open ?
[07:04] <Naik0> arrenlex: didnt work
[07:04] <Soltek> hi!
[07:04] <Naik0> tried that
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: And what happened?
[07:04] <Naik0> same error
[07:04] <arrenlex> Naik0: Did it install the package?
[07:04] <Naik0> Checking for X..... NO
[07:04] <Naik0> no
[07:04] <Naik0> i cant ./configure
[07:04] <Naik0> i get that error
[07:04] <satix> Riot.. Check Private
[07:05] <arrenlex> Naik0: Did it install x-dev, is my question.
[07:05] <Aggort> riottttkittie ys
[07:05] <Naik0> yes
[07:05] <Aggort> uugghh
[07:05] <arrenlex> Naik0: Hmm... maybe xlibs-dev?
[07:05] <Aggort> Cat jumped on keyboard lol
[07:05] <juano_> lol
[07:06] <Aggort> Yes and I see all these apps
[07:06] <Aggort> I was using the add remove from the applications
[07:06] <riotkittie> Aggort: go to Settings on the menu, you'll find the repo option under there
[07:06] <satix> Riot.. You still here?
[07:06] <Naik0> arrenlex: thank you
[07:07] <arrenlex> Naik0: That worked?
[07:07] <Aggort> riotkittie: I did nice list of new apps
[07:07] <Naik0> yes
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys i locked my screen for an hour or two
[07:07] <arrenlex> Naik0: Cool.
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> now my mouse is gone
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> how do i get it back?
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> i don't wanna reboot :\
[07:07] <arrenlex> L0cKd0wN: Ask to borrow Aggort's cat.
[07:07] <satix> Why cant you reboot?
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> it's linux, i shouldn't have to
[07:07] <L0cKd0wN> there must be a fix for this, it's been happening a lot
[07:07] <kgoetz> L0cKd0wN: restart X
[07:07] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: what mouse you got?
[07:07] <kgoetz> ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> ctrl alt backspace doesn't work
[07:08] <satix> USB Mouse?
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> yea, logitech g5 laser mouse
[07:08] <satix> Is it plugged into a USB hub or card.. or direct into the MB?
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> direct
[07:08] <Aggort> ha  ha
[07:08] <L0cKd0wN> this a bug in gnome?
[07:08] <satix> Does it happen only after locking the screen?
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> nope, it happens if i restart gnome desktop manager
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> like if i log out
[07:09] <satix> Hm.. never heard of this problem
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> then log back in
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> happens as well
[07:09] <kgoetz> wonder if its X not reloading a module
[07:09] <L0cKd0wN> could it be a bad line in my xorg.conf ?
[07:09] <kgoetz> L0cKd0wN: after you log out does the mouse work, or does it stop when you log out?
[07:09] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: tried it on another OS?
[07:10] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: could be bad USB
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> it works
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> i can't see it though,
[07:10] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: k, could be bad driver in xorg.conf yea
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> like the arrow is gone heh
[07:10] <lyml> i dont see how it can be a bad driver, when the mouse works
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> i have to guess where it is on the screen
[07:10] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[07:10] <yugender> I want to build the ubuntu livecd image which needs to be around 50MB
[07:10] <mcquaid> i wanted to see the apple keynote, totem vlc and mplayer fail so far
[07:11] <juano_> L0cKd0wN: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin
[07:11] <mcquaid> anyone know a way to watch it?
[07:11] <yugender> Wht are the ways to strip the image?
[07:12] <Virtuall> yugender, what do you want on that livecd?
[07:12] <steelb> #ubuntu
[07:12] <steelb> oh
[07:12] <host`> some questions...
[07:13] <yugender> It should be a bootable CD
[07:13] <tyme-> =p
[07:13] <kgoetz> mcquaid: your probably missing some codecs
[07:13] <host`> what is the program used to write to a ntfs partition?
[07:13] <steelb> where should i go to get information on getting my HP printer working?
[07:13] <tyme-> !ntfs | host
[07:13] <ubotu> host: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:13] <host`> !ntfs-3g
[07:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:13] <yugender> It will be ok if it can be booted with  console
[07:13] <host`> fuse I think is the one I was thinking of
[07:14] <Virtuall> yugender, i'd say you need to make *some* linux bootable CD image (kernel + bootloader, not sure how it's done on CD) and debootstrap
[07:14] <juano_> lyml: could be bad driver, doesnt have to work or not work for it to be the driver, with some mouse devices choosing bad driver can disable buttons or not make it function properly
[07:14] <Virtuall> but i've never done anything similar anyway
[07:14] <host`> !fuse
[07:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:14] <yugender> I could able to do it
[07:14] <kgoetz> host`: could you pm the bot please
[07:15] <host`> ok
[07:15] <yugender> But thing is I want it as compact as possible
[07:15] <Virtuall> yugender, http://www.google.com/search?q=make+a+live+cd :)
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> ok, finally done
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> i feel handicapped lol
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> http://rafb.net/p/EavQKj59.html
[07:15] <juano_> host`: to write to ntfs partition, open synaptic and install ntfs-3g
[07:15] <Virtuall> btw why do you want it to be exactly ubuntu?
[07:15] <L0cKd0wN> [alt] +[tab]  to the rescue!
[07:16] <yugender> Bcos ubuntu provides the source
[07:16] <host`> juano_, that does all the setting up with fstab automatically?
[07:16] <juano_> host`: then you have to set your win partition in etc/fstab to ntfs-3g filesystem, thats what i did worked fine
[07:16] <puff> I'm having some USB device problems, does anybody know USB under ubuntu really well?
[07:16] <yugender> which is needed for me to fix and compile one of the module for my device
[07:16] <juano_> host`: you change ntfs for ntfs-3g in /etc/fstab at your window spartition line
[07:17] <juano_> host`: that is after installing ntfs-3g of course
[07:17] <juano_> !ntfs-3g
[07:17] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:17] <biotrox> anyone uses icradius in ubuntu..?
[07:17] <robtp> hey, can anyone help me with accessing a hfs partition as a USER?
[07:18] <yugender> Puff wht USB prob U R facing?
[07:18] <puff> How do I figure out what device (e.g. /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc) my device will be mounted at?
[07:19] <puff> Something wacky is going on with my ipod, it's being mounted as read-only or something.
[07:19] <kgoetz> puff: if will use the first available
[07:19] <puff> is there a way I can designate it specifically?
[07:19] <kgoetz> puff: using udev rules....
[07:19] <yugender> You do dmesg and find your device where it got detected
[07:19] <juano_> puff once the device is connected, you do cat /etc/mtab and check to see where its at
[07:19] <math_> hello, gnome-baker would not burn a DVD, I get this message:
[07:19] <clearzen> yes there is.
[07:20] <math_> Executing 'builtin_dd if=/tmp/GnomeBaker-math/gnomebaker_copy_dvd.iso of=/dev/hda obs=32k seek=0'
[07:20] <math_> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[07:20] <clearzen> puff: do you have gtkpod?
[07:20] <linux_user400354> how can i find out what make and model my memory stick is so i can get another one exactly like it for dual channel memory slots?
[07:20] <puff> clearzen: Yeah, but it's not working.
[07:20] <tyme-> math_,  do you have permission?
[07:20] <kgoetz> linux_user400354: try dmidecode, but not sure if it will help
[07:20] <tyme-> permissions*
[07:20] <biotrox> hey please help
[07:20] <math_> tyme i also did with sudo gnomebaker
[07:20] <math_> same thing...
[07:20] <biotrox> anybody installed icradius on ubuntu..?
[07:21] <kgoetz> math_: are you srue your drives ok?
[07:21] <kgoetz> *drives
[07:21] <tyme-> math_,  is it correctly finding your hardware? Are you able to read a dvd from it?
[07:21] <clearzen> puff: umount it and then try sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/<whatever>
[07:21] <clearzen> see if that helps
[07:21] <puff> Something wacky is going on.  I created /media/nano to add a manual mount (/etc/fstab) but then when I plugged it in, it seemingly mounted it automatically in /media/nano. However, when I delete a bunch of songs and then sync, it reports device is full.
[07:21] <math_> well I have burned in windows a few days ago
[07:22] <kgoetz> math_: hm. have you tried burning at a lower speed?
[07:22] <math_> nothing works
[07:22] <clearzen> puff: try to set the gid=1000
[07:22] <math_> it says: preparing to burn DVD
[07:22] <mcquaid> kgoetz, why does it play for you?
[07:22] <math_> then this message came
[07:22] <kgoetz> mcquaid: i havent tried, i'm just offereing a sugestion
[07:22] <clearzen> puff: in the fstab file
[07:22] <Wrongway> hi, I'm considering installing ubuntu on one of my drives... I'm wondering if my files and programs on my wind*ws drive/partition will be accessible when I'm using ubuntu
[07:23] <juano_> Wrongway: yes they will
[07:23] <kgoetz> Wrongway: you can make them availale, butr your programs wont run natively
[07:23] <mcquaid> i hear ya, well, i have the mplayer codec pak not sure what else i can try
[07:23] <math_> kgoetz, this is what the terminal says:
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): WARNING **: devices_eject_disk - ioctl failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_connect_signal: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <math_> ** (gnomebaker:24488): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion `DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[07:23] <tyme-> mcquaid, use w32codec pack
[07:23] <kgoetz> math_: file a bug on dbus
[07:23] <IrishFreak> Can anyone tell me how to make a seperate partition for Ubuntu?
[07:23] <juano_> !paste | math_
[07:23] <ubotu> math_: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:23] <mcquaid> yes i have that. maybe it's not the latest though.
[07:24] <math_> juano_, they are just 4 rules
[07:24] <kgoetz> IrishFreak: it can be done during install
[07:24] <IrishFreak> Under more options or just normal installing?
[07:24] <math_> kgoetz, what do u mean by file a bug on dbus
[07:24] <juano_> math_: :)
[07:24] <kgoetz> IrishFreak: normal install
[07:24] <IrishFreak> ok
[07:25] <Wrongway> so all movies/pics/documents/music/etcetcetc will be perfectly available, but programs like games/windowsapps/p2p/etcetcetc would not run properly under ubuntu without extra help
[07:25] <kgoetz> !bug
[07:25] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:25] <IrishFreak> And i cannot connect to the internet while running Ubuntu from the disc, i have a Wireless G PCI card
[07:25] <Robokop> i have got a broadcom wireless card and finally got it partially to work, but it seem i can only recieve signal not sending, could sb help me
[07:25] <juano_> Wrongway: fair to say yes
[07:25] <math_> kgoetz, k3b some option maybe?
[07:25] <kgoetz> math_: no idea.
[07:25] <Bastiq> anyone know if i can get ubuntu running on a usb stick?
[07:25] <Bastiq> like booting from it
[07:25] <mcquaid> tyme-, or anyone else can you try the it and see if it works for you? http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/j47d52oo/m_8848125_110_ref.mov
[07:26] <kgoetz> back another time
[07:26] <tyme-> if what works?
[07:26] <tyme-> i know my mplayer plays mov files
[07:26] <geoffDeGeofff> anyone know what mimedb has been replaced with in edgy?  i used to run mimedb -l to open files with default app from command line :(
[07:26] <tyme-> and thats from apple so its guaranteed to be a quality video :P
[07:26] <mcquaid> so does mine, but does the above link play? (apple keynote)
[07:27] <tyme-> mcquaid,  download mplayer source and compiler yourself. Ubuntu and other distros disable parts of mplayer for legal reasons
[07:27] <tyme-> compile*
[07:27] <mcquaid> my mplayer plays quicktime trailers and all that, but not this
[07:27] <jcruzlara> Does anyone have any recommendations on sort of Media Center kind of program but without tv? Something like media portal for windows.
[07:27] <mcquaid> just was asking for someone to try it, no biggie
[07:28] <Wrongway> sounds fair. for ubuntu, what file system would I have to make my drive/partition for everything to be happyhappy
[07:28] <Wrongway> is NTFS ok, or is it something else
[07:28] <tyme-> ext3
[07:28] <juano_> for ubuntu? ext 3
[07:30] <Wrongway> alrighty, thanks for your help juano_
[07:32] <b3> hello.have any of you tried ulteo?
[07:33] <b3> well have you?
[07:33] <tom_> where are kernel modules stored, and how long should it take to load one?
[07:34] <puff> clearzen, juano_, okay, was starting to get somewhere and then I accidentally clicked on the heading of the Playlists frame and gtkpod crashed.  Does anybody else find that intensely annoying? So I'm trying again...
[07:34] <juano__> puff: have you tried amarok?
[07:35] <sekio> tom_: use 'modprobe' to load kernel modules; they should be automatically loaded
[07:36] <puff> Dang, stll no space left on device.
[07:36] <puff> I can try amarok, sure.
[07:36] <puff> But I suspect the problem is happening before I get that far.
[07:36] <tom_> sekio: thats what im trying to do
[07:37] <juano__> puff: what seems to be the problem exactlY?
[07:37] <tom_> sekio: i broke my sound, and i'm tyring to fix it. im trying to load a kernel module, but modprobe just moves to the next line, and doesn't print any messages saying if its worked or not.
[07:37] <heretic> what does lsmod give you tom_
[07:38] <puff> juano__: Well, it seems that i can't write changes to my ipod. I think something weird is going on with the mounting.
[07:39] <n2diy> puff, you said there was no space left on the device?
[07:39] <juano__> puff: ipod-itunes support is pretty lame, well at least i couldnt get my motorola rokr e1 to sync at all, ive tried everything
[07:39] <heretic> itunes sucks regardless
[07:39] <heretic> and so do ipods
[07:39] <juano__> puff: i suggest you try amarok or rhythmbox
[07:40] <heretic> yet every teenybopper has to have one for some fashon reason or somethin..
[07:40] <juano__> heretic: true, thats why i got an mp4 :), USBdisk , put music in and walla
[07:40] <arrenlex> juano__: voila? xPP
[07:40] <heretic> i just got a samsung a930
[07:40] <farkr> best to start using ogg and forget mp3s, keep it open source :D
[07:40] <puff> n2diy: That's what it's reporting, but it's reportinthat even when all I'm doing is trying to delete tracks.
[07:40] <heretic> holds mini sd cards up to 1 gig each
[07:41] <juano__> heretic: why complicate things when they can be easy
[07:41] <mdious> heretic:  did not agree on ipods sucking until I had to support a ceo who had one, along with a crap load of DRM licensed music which he 'lost' all the licenses for...of course he had no idea what this meant or what DRM was....*sigh*
[07:41] <puff> juano__: I don't need itunes support, I just need to be able to add/remove tracks and set up playlists.
[07:41] <farkr> amarok
[07:41] <n2diy> puff, could be there is a .trash folder on it, and all your doiing is moving the stuff there?
[07:41] <juano__> arrenlex: yeah voila
[07:42] <juano__> arrenlex: you understood didnt you ? xP
[07:42] <puff> n2diy: Well, gtkpod is what's trying to do the deleting-from-ipod.
[07:42] <leeotzu> any one knows how to open mht files under ubuntu
[07:42] <mdious> leeotzu:  what is an mht file?
[07:43] <puff> At this point I'm tempted to just reformat the ipod; not sure what's involved with that.
[07:43] <puff> Maybe try rockbox.
[07:43] <elyon225> Hey, is it possible to get ActiveX compatability in Firefox under Ubuntu?
[07:43] <leeotzu> these are the MHTML files
[07:43] <puff> elyon225: Ugh, I highly, highly doubt it.
[07:43] <elyon225> puff: Didn't think so either...
[07:43] <elyon225> crap.
[07:44] <n2diy> puff, ok, I'm not familiar with gtkpod, but I had a USB disk that ran out of room, even though I was deleting stuff from it, turns out I was just deleting to the .trash folder.
[07:44] <juano__> elyon225: crossover office or something
[07:44] <puff> n2diy: Appreciate the thought.
[07:44] <arrenlex> elyon225: Sure, if you run Windows Firefox under wine.
[07:44] <puff> Here's my dmesg, btw:  <juano__> arrenlex: yeah voila
 arrenlex: you understood didnt you ? xP
[07:44] <puff> Dangit.
[07:44] <arrenlex> elyon225: Why exactly do you need activeX?
[07:45] <elyon225> arrenlex: Not willing to do that lol
[07:45] <puff> Here's my dmesg, btw:  http://pastebin.com/855719
[07:45] <Flannel> !info kmhtconvert | leeotzu
[07:45] <ubotu> kmhtconvert: mht to war file converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 552 kB
[07:45] <puff> How do I get ubuntu to use only one clipboard for cut'n paste? :-(
[07:45] <arrenlex> elyon225: Why do you need activeX? If it's only one site, just run it in IE under Wine.
[07:45] <elyon225> arrenlex: Kind of stupid, I guess... but there is just one game that I was totally addicted to before loading Linux.  And it's website only launches it through Active X (its not a web-based app... but it uses ActiveX to login to the servers)
[07:46] <arrenlex> elyon225: Run it in IE. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: I've tried ies4linux... it didn't work for some reason.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: Did you have wine installed?
[07:47] <puff> arrenlex: The mind boggles.
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: Yes.  ies4linux worked... but this game didn't.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: Oh. That's different.
[07:47] <elyon225> arrenlex: Yeah.
[07:47] <arrenlex> elyon225: ie running under wine doesn't support some components. That might be it.
[07:48] <puff> Okay, looks like pastebin ate the end of my dmesg, here's just the end:  http://pastebin.com/855724
[07:48] <arrenlex> elyon225: Out of curiosity, what game is this?
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: I just figured that there would be some project out there by now that aimed for full ActiveX compatibility.
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: GolfKing
[07:48] <puff> So if I comment out the lines I added to /etc/fstab, let's see where it ends up...
[07:48] <elyon225> arrenlex: http://golf.ijji.com/
[07:48] <arrenlex> elyon225: People create projects for useful, beneficial stuff which isn't available.
[07:48] <mdious> cya everyone
[07:48] <avalon> can someone please explain to me how to tell my system to use my USB logitech headset as the default device for playing sounds on throughout my system? IT's still trying to run it through my motherboard
[07:48] <iceman> On my computer i have a fat32 windows partition. I would like to know how to mount it, or maybe how copy certain things, to Ubuntu.
[07:49] <arrenlex> elyon225: Not horrible, proprietary, virus-loving crap no one needs.
[07:49] <puff> Interesting.  It started up gtkpod and gtkpod reported "'/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted."
[07:49] <elyon225> arrenlex: And I know all about the security issues with ActiveX... just wishful thinking, I guess.  But I absolutely loved that game and I miss it ;)
[07:49] <arrenlex> elyon225: What's wrong with "direct file download"? Seems to get an .exe. Wine it.
[07:49] <biotrox> !radius
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <elyon225> arrenlex: That will allow me to install it, but to actually play it, you need to go to the website, login, and then click "Play Now" which requires ActiveX
[07:50] <avalon> !headset
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <arrenlex> elyon225: What's the point of installing it if you can't play it? o__o
[07:50] <elyon225> arrenlex: Exactly lol
[07:50] <puff> And /etc/mtab has two entries:
[07:50] <puff> http://pastebin.com/855725
[07:51] <iceman> I have a fat32 windows partition. I would like to know how to mount it, or maybe how copy certain things, to Ubuntu.
[07:51] <clearzen> puff: I know inodes are the memory addresses where files are actuall accessed from. If you delete links to inodes it is gone forever basicly....so did you unmount your ipod before you remounted it?
[07:51] <juano__> iceman first you would need to make a new dir, lets say sudo mkdir /media/windows
[07:52] <dawkirst> Hello. Can someone please advise me on how to mount a hard drive. please?
[07:52] <juano__> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/$windisk /media/windows/
[07:52] <juano__> iceman sudo mount -t vfat /dev/$windisk /media/windows/
[07:53] <puff> clearzen: yeah.
[07:53] <puff> http://pastebin.com/855726
[07:53] <riotkittie> removepkg xmms
[07:53] <riotkittie> ooops
[07:53] <clearzen> puff: can you see the ipod db on your ipod using ls?
[07:53] <juano__> iceman better off, try adding this to your /etc/fstab (suppose win disk is /dev/hda1):  /dev/hda1       /media/windows    vfat    gid=100,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0       0
[07:54] <juano__> iceman then run mount -a
[07:54] <avalon> Well I found the problem with mine... it's outputting to my old soundcard by default... problem is, I don't know how to change that. ANy ideas?
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: Hm, on second thought, bash history suggests I might be lyig.
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: nowait, I quit out of gtkpod and the ipod display went back to active mode.
[07:54] <puff> clearzen: So presumably tha tmeans it was unmounted.
[07:54] <billytwowilly> are there any programs like audacity but for editing video for linux? I have a couple movies I want to cut clips from. Thanks.
[07:55] <iceman> juano ok i'm writing this down.
[07:55] <ademan> why isn't netbeans in the repositories?
[07:55] <puff> clearzen: Yeah, that's what that pastebin url was.
[07:55] <clearzen> puff: As long as you can see the database for itunes using ls while it is mounted it is just a permissions issue
[07:55] <clearzen> puff: Can I suggest Rockbox. I use it and I love it.
[07:55] <juano__> iceman: hold on one sec ill paste the 4 commands
[07:56] <allme> kubuntu 6.10 does not seem to boot on the following cofiguration: gigabyte 965 gms2, 2*512mb ddr2 800mhz kingmax, intel dual core 2.8ghz, leadtek 7300 gt tdh extreeme, western digital 250 ks hdd sata 2. I removed one memory and booted in single channel
[07:56] <clearzen> I even run portable apps for work on my ipod
[07:56] <Flannel> ademan: it's not FOSS?
[07:56] <allme> is there a way to boot in dual channel?
[07:56] <ademan> Flannel: oh... lol
[07:57] <ademan> allme: what do you mean doesn't boot?
[07:57] <allme> linux woul not start
[07:57] <allme> neighter live
[07:57] <Flannel> ademan: actually, it is.  So, it's not in the repositories... because no one has put it there
[07:57] <allme> nor install
[07:58] <juano__> iceman: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1020/
[07:59] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[07:59] <puff> clearzen: Sure, at this point I've given up on what's currently on the ipod, and I have copies of all of that on archive anyway.
[07:59] <puff> clearzen: but will rockbox fix these perm issues?
[07:59] <^AnDrEw^> Hello?
[07:59] <Flannel> !hi
[07:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:00] <^AnDrEw^> hello
[08:00] <juano__> iceman: i made a correction, this one is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1021/
[08:00] <allme> i tried 6.06 and i had the same problem. i downloaded 6.10and it didn-t workso i tried several things (lige removing a memory module)
[08:00] <clearzen> puff: yes, it shows up as a normal usb device
[08:00] <reverseblade> anyone having problems with X with the recent update ?
[08:00] <^AnDrEw^> i need some help?
[08:00] <iceman> juano Thank You i appreciate it XD!
[08:00] <Flannel> !ask | ^AnDrEw^
[08:00] <ubotu> ^AnDrEw^: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:00] <clearzen> I haven't had a problem once with my machine and rockbox
[08:00] <juano__> iceman: no prob, last link has it all
[08:00] <ademan> allme: so do you get an error? does it go black? what?
[08:00] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[08:01] <allme> it stucks
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> Well what it is, i downloaded ubuntu and burned it to CD but wen i went to install it it just booted up insted
[08:01] <ademan> allme: what do you mean? it gets stuck where?
[08:01] <allme> the moving bar stops
[08:01] <farkr> how large should i make my swap for ubuntu if i have 768mb of ram (i read that > 500mb is overkill is it true?)
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> i want it to format/install my current OS and stick ubuntu on it
[08:01] <ademan> during the install or while booting the livecd?
[08:01] <clearzen> puff: You will need to get some themes. I would suggest blackglass, it looks very good
[08:01] <allme> both
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> no it didnt install
[08:01] <^AnDrEw^> just booted up
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> i dont think it was the livecd i downloaded
[08:02] <Flannel> ademan: the Desktop CD has a liveCD, which boots, then there's an "install" link on the desktop, to install it
[08:02] <Flannel> ^AnDrEw^, sorry.
[08:02] <juano__> ^AnDrEw^: 6.10 boots into memory for a more interactive install
[08:02] <clearzen> puff: The only trade-off I found it battery life. And I still get about 4-5 hours when I am listening to music
[08:02] <n2diy> AnDrEw, there should have been an install icon on the desktop.
[08:02] <Flannel> ^AnDrEw^: if you want a plain installer, you want the alternate CD (old textmode installer).  But either of them will install it for you.
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> ahh i didnt see
[08:02] <allme> i select the live option for ex , it starts loading and it stays that way
[08:02] <ademan> Flannel: or anyone else, how do you enable messages WITH usplash?  so that allme can figure out exactly where things are going wrong?
[08:02] <^AnDrEw^> ok thanks for your help :-)
[08:03] <sujan_dutta> how do i install net-snmp's libraries like libsnmp5 in ubuntu ?
[08:03] <^AnDrEw^> ill be back later on looking for more help with ubuntu :P
[08:03] <^AnDrEw^> most probly with wireless
[08:03] <Flannel> ademan, remove the quiet and splash options from grub
[08:04] <Flannel> ademan: which can be done at the grub menu itself, by hitting "e" on the proper menu item, then removing them
[08:04] <reverseblade> Someone please help, latest X update broke my X !!
[08:04] <ademan> Flannel: does that apply to the LiveCD?
[08:04] <sujan_dutta> HELP PLease : how do i install net-snmp's libraries like libsnmp5 in ubuntu ?
[08:04] <Flannel> reverseblade: "broke" doesn't tell us a whole lot.  What doesnt work exactly?  What error messages do you get?
[08:04] <clearzen> reverseblade: sudo dpkg --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:04] <n2diy> sujan_dutta: with synaptic.
[08:05] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs
[08:05] <ademan> Flannel: do you mind working with allme?  I think he might be able to figure out where the problem is with his livecd if he enables bootmessages
[08:05] <Flannel> ademan: I... don't believe so.  However, you should be able to hit.. um, one of the F keys, to go into an advanced options thing, then you can remove them
[08:05] <juano__> reverseblade: do what clearzen sais
[08:05] <ademan> i gotta go unfortunately
[08:05] <ademan> allme: did you see what flannel said?
[08:05] <sujan_dutta> n2diy : couldn't find the package through synaptic and apt-get
[08:05] <ademan> remove quiet and splash, it should show you your boot messages, see which one it hangs on
[08:05] <ademan> i gotta go though
[08:06] <sujan_dutta> n2diy : but i can see the package in ubuntu package database
[08:06] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs?
[08:06] <allme> a second problem would be drivers. gigabyte does not offer  support for 965 gms2. where can i get them from
[08:06] <n2diy> sujan_dutta: did you enable all the repos in synaptic?
[08:06] <reverseblade> Flannel: I see the nvidia logo, and gnome initializes. You know there are small icons appear middle of the splash screen of the gnome. At the point of nautils icon x restarts
[08:06] <arrenlex> !libsnmp5 | sujan_dutta
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libsnmp5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <arrenlex> Hmm. I have it in debian.
[08:06] <noobcook> does dual booting mean simutanious booting of 2 OS's say solaris and windows?
[08:06] <sujan_dutta> arrenlex : i want that package only and libsnmp5-dev too
[08:07] <ademan> noobcook: not simultaneously, when you power on your computer you would choose one
[08:07] <noobcook> is there any way to do it simultaneously?
[08:07] <juano__> noobcook: means you have the option 2 boot one or the other at start
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: No.
[08:07] <clearzen> noobcook: only if you have a mac
[08:07] <ademan> with virtualization, like kvm or vmware
[08:07] <noobcook> thats gay
[08:07] <matsyes> hi does anyone know how to enable text wrapping in the ediff mode in emacs?
[08:07] <arrenlex> !coc | noobcook
[08:07] <ubotu> noobcook: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:07] <noobcook> id like to be able to tab between windows and linux thatd be so cool
[08:07] <ademan> clearzen: wtf? where did you pull that crap out of?
[08:07] <Flannel> reverseblade: you go back to gdm?
[08:07] <n2diy> noobcook: no it means choosing which OS to boot at boot time.
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: Use vmware.
[08:07] <arrenlex> noobcook: Or wine.
[08:08] <puff> clearzen: Thanks.  Hm, gapless playback looks cool, but I'll leave that for later.
[08:08] <noobcook> i am wineing =p
[08:08] <hoelk> a mac can boot 2 system simultaneously?
[08:08] <puff> Btw who was the amarok fan?
[08:08] <ademan> arrenlex: wine doesn't really run windows at the same time
[08:08] <clearzen> parrells
[08:08] <reverseblade> Flannel: I go back to login part of the gnome
[08:08] <matsyes> !rules
[08:08] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:08] <ademan> clearzen: wow, ever hear of vmware? same thing only its not limited to windows...
[08:08] <nzbb> how do I list connected devices (specifially PCI devices) by device id?
[08:08] <puff> clearzen: Argh... I have an 8gb nano, presumably that's 2nd gen and hence not supported by rockbox.
[08:09] <arrenlex> ademan: I know that. I was suggesting it as a way to run windows applications.
[08:09] <clearzen> ademan: parrells I guess you are right....didn't think about vmware
[08:09] <arrenlex> sujan_dutta: Ah! Ubuntu has libsnmp9 and libsnmp9-dev
[08:09] <clearzen> ademan: I've been drinking lol
[08:09] <noobcook> puff u can just mount it as a mass storage device cant you?
[08:09] <ademan> clearzen: ah, haha
[08:09] <noobcook> plz dont say drinking
[08:09] <noobcook> im not gona recover
[08:09] <ademan> arrenlex: sorry, i'm being distracted, my gf is pissed i'm on the computer
[08:09] <noobcook> my stomach lurched wen i thought of alcohol lol
[08:09] <matsyes> hi does anyone here use emacs?
[08:09] <puff> noobcook: Nope.
[08:10] <puff> noobcook: Well, I can, but that doesn't solve my problem.
[08:10] <allme> thnks for help
[08:10] <reverseblade> clearzen: 1st there is no --reconfigure option, it is -reconfigure I think
[08:10] <noobcook> puff: what are u trying to do exactly with it
[08:10] <allme> i mainly wanted to submit this
[08:10] <arrenlex> ademan: http://bash.org/?60831
[08:10] <clearzen> puff: you can try this but it isn't secure add uid = 0000 gid =0000 to the fstab line for your ipod
[08:10] <reverseblade> no
[08:10] <reverseblade> well
[08:11] <mzuverink> anyone know anything about the debs made by the folks at ubuntusoftware.info?
[08:11] <reverseblade> it says unknown option --reconfigure
[08:11] <clearzen> puff: also add users,admin under users. But it is not secure.
[08:11] <reverseblade> clearzen: can you help ?
[08:11] <clearzen> reverseblade: try a single -
[08:11] <clearzen> reverseblade: so -reconfigure
[08:12] <reverseblade> clearzen: in that case it says conflicting option -r and -e it says
[08:12] <reverseblade> clearzen: so it is not single - either
[08:12] <arrenlex> reverseblade: What are you trying to do?
[08:12] <clearzen> reverseblade: one sec
[08:12] <reverseblade> arrenlex: sudo dpgk --reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:12] <arrenlex> reverseblade: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:12] <Flannel> reverseblade: right, that's gdm.  Under session, choose "safe graphics mode" or, whatever.  Does that log in successfully?
[08:12] <reverseblade> arrenlex: my X is broken after last X update, it restarts to login screen
[08:12] <clearzen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:13] <clearzen> reverseblade: did you get that?
[08:13] <arrenlex> reverseblade: If your X starts, but stays on the login screen, reconfiguring X won't help because there are no problems with it. Something else is misconfigured.
[08:13] <puff> noobcook: add/remove songs and playlists.
[08:14] <reverseblade> Flannel: I have done it but it is the same, there was an error popup complaining about some daemons conflicting but I couldnt read
[08:14] <nzbb> how do I find the device id for a pci card?
[08:14] <noobcook> dmesg?
[08:14] <puff> clearzen: Interestingly, I umounted both /media/nano and /media/ipod-1 and quit out of gtkpod, but the nano is still showing "do not disconnect".
[08:14] <reverseblade> arrenlex: true but this happend after I installed Xorg and linux-restricted-modules 2.6.17 update (altough I am running 2.6.19)
[08:15] <nzbb> noobcook: thx
[08:15] <n2diy> nzbb: lspci
[08:15] <nzbb> will try that too
[08:15] <arrenlex> reverseblade: What's the output of uname -r?
[08:15] <clearzen> puff: As long as it does not show as mounted on your system you should be fine
[08:15] <clearzen> type mount in a terminal and it will show you the mounted items on your system
[08:16] <reverseblade> arrenlex: <IP_ADDRESS>my_kernel
[08:16] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i have an ubuntu server. the previous admin backed up svn by copying the files rather than taking a dump. is there any way by which i can restore it?
[08:16] <reverseblade> arrenlex: it is X that is restarting after I login
[08:16] <puff> Argh, too late... i went ahead and unplugged it.
[08:16] <arrenlex> reverseblade: I don't know, sorry.
[08:17] <clearzen> puff: It happens
[08:17] <reverseblade> arrenlex: it says there  was an error with gnome settings daemon
[08:17] <Captain_Haddock> Hmmmm: try #svn
[08:17] <Hmmmm> Captain_Haddock, thank
[08:17] <Hmmmm> s
[08:17] <puff> Removed /media/nano and/media/ipod-1 and deleted /media/ipod, which was apparently an acutal directory containing actual files on my hard drive.  Plugged it back in, it automounted, brought up gtkpod.
[08:17] <arrenlex> reverseblade: Aha! A clue. I don't run gnome, sorry.
[08:17] <puff> and ls -l /media | fgrep -i ipod  ->drwx------  6 puff puff 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 ipod
[08:17] <sivik> !ipw3945
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <sivik> does anyone here run a wireless card (ipw 3945) in ubuntu
[08:18] <clearzen>  puff: so is it allowing you to sync with the ipod?
[08:18] <puff> last line in mount output is:  /dev/sdb2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:19] <clearzen>  puff: That looks good to me
[08:19] <clearzen>  puff: It should allow you to delete/add files
[08:19] <Bastiq> anyone know if there is a way to see the macworld keynote in ubuntu?
[08:20] <puff> clearzen: Okay, so I just deleted three songs I dind't like anyway, and sync'd, seemed to go well.
[08:20] <clearzen> puff:good, that is progress
[08:20] <puff> Now to test it, I should disconnect it and see if the songs are really gone.
[08:21] <puff> gtkpod will try to automatically unmount it  on quit, or I can manually umount it.  Whaddaya think?
[08:21] <clearzen> puff: You can manually unmount it
[08:21] <clearzen> puff: Use sudo umount /media/<whatever>
[08:22] <riotkittie> sweet.
[08:22] <puff> Manual it is, then.
[08:22] <reverseblade> Can anyone help ? GDM restarts when I login, it says there is an error with the gnome settings daemong. Can anyone help !!
[08:23] <Flannel> reverseblade: what's the exact error?
[08:23] <juano__> reverseblade: are you unable to enter gnome?
[08:23] <clearzen> puff: It will take a few seconds to unmount it. Once it returns you to a command line it has completed the removal of the device
[08:23] <n2diy> reverseblade: did you every get the dpkg -reconfigure command to run?
[08:23] <dawkirst> Hello. I just connected another HDD, but Ubuntu picks it up as a Local Disk that "can't be mounted". Any clues?
[08:23] <SilentDis> dawkirst, what format is the drive?
[08:24] <un_operateur> dawkirst, how are you trying to mount it?
[08:24] <dawkirst> SilentDis, ntfs.
[08:24] <puff> Okay, seemed to unmount properly, doesn't show up in mount output,  but again the ipod is still showing "do not disconnect".
[08:24] <SilentDis> dawkirst, you should be able to mount it read only.  what kind of drive, and where is it connected?
[08:24] <n2diy> dawkirst: are your master/slave jumpers set?
[08:24] <puff> Go ahead and yank it?
[08:24] <dawkirst> un_operateur, well, just by clicking on it, or right clicking and saying mount.
[08:25] <un_operateur> dawkirst, errm, i think you need !fuse and !ntfs-3g for that
[08:25] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g | dawkirst
[08:25] <ubotu> dawkirst: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:25] <clearzen> puff: yeah it will be okay
[08:25] <SilentDis> un_operateur, he should still be able to mount an NTFS partition RO with the default edgy install
[08:25] <mzuverink> Anyone have any information regarding packages made by ubuntusoftware.info?
[08:26] <puff> clearzen: Okay, I waited this time to be sure what you were going to say :-).
[08:26] <dawkirst> SilentDis, n2diy, it's a Seagate 120Gb, and it's on primary IDE, with no jumper settings (there's no jumper setting for slave.)
[08:26] <Captain_Haddock> Anybody aware of "medibuntu"? Is its repository safe to use?
[08:26] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  do you have a link?
[08:26] <hexidigital> i'd like to see about 'medibuntu'
[08:27] <reverseblade> juano n2diy Flannel: search the forums, it happened tosome one else also
[08:27] <SilentDis> dawkirst, ok, so it's located at /dev/hda1-n, correct?  (1-n means 1 thru however many partitions are on it, probably just the one)
[08:27] <Naik0> how can i start "torsmo" a program without having a terminal i cant use
[08:27] <dawkirst> un_operateur, thanks. One thing tho, I can "see" my other ntfs partition from Ubuntu just fine...
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[08:27] <dabaR> I am trying to netboot install ubuntu on my ppc powerbook. I am using dnsmasq and tftpd-hpa. My tftpd-hpa is started standalone by running "/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -l -v -v -v -v -v -s /tftpboot -a <IP_ADDRESS>:69", my dnsmasq.conf has the following line: "dhcp-boot=yaboot,dabar,<IP_ADDRESS>". The contents of my /tftpboot are same as http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/. I reboot my
[08:27] <un_operateur> SilenceGold, errm, In my experience a normal user can not mount an ntfs drive
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: doesn't have anything to do with "medicine" btw..
[08:27] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[08:27] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  unless your computer has a virus, i'd suppose not :P
[08:27] <SilentDis> un_operateur, true, the most you'd have to do is either sudo mount /something /somewhere -t ntfs -o ro,user though
[08:27] <un_operateur> dawkirst, the other drive might be mounted via an entry in /etc/fstab .. you could do the same with this one
[08:27] <SilentDis> un_operateur, or, add it to /etc/fstab
[08:28] <reverseblade> Flannel: juano__ , I cant read the exact error it passes to fast but from forums I can say there was an error starting the gnome settings deamon ...
[08:28] <puff> clearzen: Okay, looks like the songs are gone.
[08:28] <dawkirst> un_operateur, what exactly is /etc/fstab?
[08:28] <hexidigital> un_operateur::  i had problems in gnome mounting ntfs... those problems went away "automagically" when i switched to kde
[08:29] <clearzen> puff: good....success
[08:29] <clearzen> 8-)
[08:29] <hexidigital> un_operateur::  i haven't been able to figure out why, though
[08:29] <un_operateur> dawkirst, it's a map of paritions to mount points which are processed on boot
[08:29] <clearzen> puff: so, on a side note. Do you puff tough or what?
[08:29] <juano__> reverseblade: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[08:30] <dawkirst> un_operateur, okay, but say, for example, I pop in a USB HDD with a ntfs partition, how should it be handled?
[08:30] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: what do you think?
[08:31] <Naik0> If i start a program with a terminal i cant use it anymore?
[08:31] <un_operateur> dawkirst, errm, well, it depends on the format of the drive and whether or not you can mount it as a normal user -- if it were ntfs .. i'd use !ntfs-3g
[08:31] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  sorry,didn't notice you posted the link... i'm taking a look now
[08:31] <dawkirst> SilentDis, I believe it is at /dev/hdb1.
[08:31] <reverseblade> juano__: lots of things, it says lost connection to screen 0.0
[08:31] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: Cheers
[08:32] <dawkirst> un_operateur, ok, thanks.
[08:32] <mzuverink> how do I make xchat use firefox?
[08:32] <juano__> reverseblade: are you able to enter gnome desktop? or you cant login?
[08:32] <SilentDis> dawkirst, you should be able to mount it with this command:  sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mountlocationyoumade -t ntfs -o ro,user
[08:32] <dawkirst> SilentDis, I'll try.
[08:32] <un_operateur> hexidigital, i'm not sure how kde works with respect to removable media -- it might have it's own userspace daemon that did the "automagic"
[08:32] <riotkittie> use firefox?
[08:32] <mzuverink> riotkittie, to open url
[08:32] <dabaR> I have a powerpc netboot question here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/
[08:32] <reverseblade> juano__: just after I login you know there is some splash screen, where there are small icons on the middle of the screen, like nautilus , at that part it restarts
[08:33] <juano__> reverseblade: ok
[08:33] <hexidigital> Captain_Haddock::  there's a #medibuntu channel on freenode... i'd check it out there first, before using their repo
[08:33] <juano__> reverseblade: sec
[08:33] <SilentDis> dawkirst, if anything, that'll give you an error we can work with ;)
[08:33] <puff> clearzen: Dang, missed yoeu.
[08:33] <riotkittie> mzuverink: are they not being opened at all, or are they being opened in another app?
[08:33] <riotkittie> ooh brb
[08:33] <reverseblade> juano__: unable to get session bus
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> hexidigital: okie dokie
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> thanks
[08:33] <steelb> how do i find out my processor kernel?
[08:33] <pkh> I have a server that isn't starting some of the services (azpache2, mysql) that are listed in the rc2.d.  should I be looking anywhere in particular to find out why?
[08:33] <SilentDis> brb, i've got a beryl problem i'm working on myself over in #beryl lol
[08:33] <mzuverink> riotkittie, they are being opened in galeon
[08:34] <juano__> reverseblade: you can try this: rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[08:34] <mzuverink> riotkittie, I want them to open in firefox
[08:34] <dabaR> steelb: uname -r
[08:34] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:34] <un_operateur> juano__, better if -- mv ~/.gnome ~/.gnome.bak
[08:34] <steelb> yea, well how do i figure out what i SHOULD install
[08:35] <Naik0> How can i start a program in the best way? If i start in a terminal i cant use the terminal anymore? Help...
[08:35] <juano__> un_operateur: reverseblade yea, do what un_operateur sais first
[08:35] <dabaR> steelb: you mean what is your processor architecture, I see. What processor is it? Pentium?
[08:35] <juano__> reverseblade: then execute my command
[08:35] <dabaR> Naik0: what is the program's name?
[08:35] <reverseblade> juano__: yeah but will I lose any data like my evolution e mails ?
[08:35] <steelb> amd64 3700+
[08:35] <hexidigital> Naik0::  alt+f2 will bring a run command bo
[08:35] <hexidigital> *box
[08:35] <un_operateur> pkh, you could examine messages and syslog in /var/log .. and the log files of apache and mysql .. in the same directory
[08:35] <dabaR> steelb: you need ubuntu 64 bit.
[08:36] <Naik0> dabaR: torsmo
[08:36] <reverseblade> juano__: will I lose data ?
[08:36] <steelb> i'd rather use 32bit for the compatability...
[08:36] <Naik0> hexidigital: no because iam using fluxbox
[08:36] <lupine_85> steelb: you can use 32 bit
[08:36] <juano__> reverseblade: actually youre making a backup with number 1 here: 1) mv ~/.gnome ~/.gnome.bak   2) rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[08:36] <dabaR> Naik0: you can do such as nohup torsmo &, then when you want to kill it, killall torsmo
[08:36] <hexidigital> Naik0::  ah... dunno then :(
[08:36] <dabaR> steelb: right, sorry, you can use that...
[08:37] <riotkittie> ugh. i forgot xchat was set to autojoin
[08:37] <un_operateur> juano__, if #1 succeeds.. #2 is not needed (and won't work actually)
[08:37] <juano__> reverseblade: im not sure wich data gets lost
[08:37] <reverseblade> juano__: okay on my way
[08:37] <seanj_> easyubuntu argh... warns about license stuff, I hit OK then it freezes
[08:37] <steelb> i just want to know which kernel i should apt-get
[08:37] <pkh> un_operateur, I've tchecked /var/log/apache2/*, /var/log/syslog, nothing unexpected seems to be there, they just don't start...
[08:37] <dabaR> steelb: for what reason are you apt-geting a kernel?
[08:37] <Naik0> dabaR: thank you
[08:37] <juano__> un_operateur: true, thought it said cp :):)
[08:37] <juano__> un_operateur: instead of mv
[08:37] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, how do you conclude they aren't starting?
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> lol
[08:37] <steelb> dabar, just to make sure everything matches before i go on
[08:38] <dabaR> Naik0: & means release the terminal so I can still use it. nohup means leave the program running even when I close the terminal.
[08:38] <pkh> ps doesn't show them...  a restart/start on either of them results in them starting
[08:38] <Naik0> dabaR: great!
[08:38] <n2diy> steelb: why do you think you need a new kernel?
[08:38] <Naik0> thanks alot!
[08:38] <dabaR> steelb: people usually install from CDs.
[08:38] <dabaR> Naik0: welcome
[08:38] <reverseblade> juano__: okay I did as you said
[08:38] <SilentDis> brb, gotta restart x
[08:39] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:39] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, that depends on how you are using ps there -- is it like this  -- ps aux | grep -i apache
[08:39] <un_operateur> ?
[08:39] <steelb> dabar, i know
[08:39] <riotkittie> mzuverink: try this ... go to settings -> adavced -> url handler
[08:39] <pkh> is usually use ps -Af, but yes
[08:39] <dabaR> steelb: what did you do exactly so far, and why do you think you need to install a kernel?
[08:39] <mzuverink> riotkittie, I fixed it, thanks
[08:39] <Tree> mm..guys i have a problem.In my sources.list i have ruby at the bottem (Added by the respitory GUI).But i need it deleted and i cant cos i dont have permissions what can i do?
[08:39] <juano__> reverseblade: you gotta restart X for changes to take effect
[08:39] <riotkittie> :)
[08:40] <Tree> anyone help me?
[08:40] <dabaR> Tree: use sudo
[08:40] <un_operateur> pkh, can you later start apache or mysql -- do they startup ok then?
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, i most likely don't its just on my checklist for putting up a new linux install
[08:40] <dabaR> steelb: did you boot into this install yet?
[08:40] <un_operateur> pkh, sudo apache2ctl start
[08:40] <reverseblade> juano__: I restarted gdm, it says another panel is running
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, in it right now
[08:40] <reverseblade> juano__: I'll reboot and come back wait a sec please
[08:40] <pkh> un_operateur, yep, everythings always fine if I run /etc/init.d/apache2 start (or mysql) so the init.d scripts are fine.
[08:40] <dabaR> steelb: run uname -r, and tell us what you get
[08:40] <Tree> dabAR: how would i open then edit then save it..wat are the commands??
[08:40] <steelb> dabar, 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:41] <pkh> un_operateur, and they run fine -- until a reboot at which point they just don't startup
[08:41] <dabaR> steelb: that is fine
[08:41] <un_operateur> pkh, and you are sure the links to them exist in /etc/rc2.d ?
[08:41] <steelb> dabar, ok thanks
[08:41] <Pablo> how do you lauch wpagui?
[08:41] <dabaR> Tree: what editor do you like to edit files in?
[08:41] <Tree> the default..gedit
[08:41] <pyr0000> why is wireless so slow?
[08:41] <pkh> un_operateur,  S91apache2 -> ../init.d/apache2
[08:41] <Tree> or
[08:41] <dabaR> Tree: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:41] <Tree> its text editor
[08:41] <Pablo> how do you lauch wpagui? anyone know?
[08:42] <hexidigital> Tree::  in a terminal, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:42] <n2diy> ! wpagui
[08:42] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 224 kB
[08:42] <dabaR> Pablo: sudo dpkg -L wpagui|grep bin
[08:42] <dabaR> Pablo: see whether there is a command there for you.
[08:42] <Tree> You my friend are a god
[08:42] <Tree> <3
[08:42] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, sound good, did you examine /var/log/apache2/error ?
[08:42] <Tree> thanks guys,cya
[08:43] <setuid> Anyone know what happened to the Edgy repos? I haven't seen an update in a few months now
[08:43] <setuid> The package list hasn't changed in weeks
[08:43] <setuid> I'm trying to get a later Evolution than the pathetically-old 2.8.1 that is in the latest Edgy repos
[08:43] <pkh> un_operateur, yes, the only error for days is ' File does not exist: /var/www/help/favicon.ico' but that shouldn't affect it (it runs fine with it)
[08:43] <juano__> setuid: get thunderbird
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[08:44] <pyr0000> help please! i installed my wireless network card and installed Networkmanger to access my networks but it is so slow most pages wont load up
[08:44] <setuid> juano__, And how will that solve my Evolution problem exactly?
[08:44] <dabaR> setuid: released versions do not get application version updates, only security updates to the same versions as when released.
[08:44] <Robokop> i have got a broadcom wireless card and finally got it partially to work, but it seem i can only recieve signal not sending, could sb help me
[08:44] <w180> hi
[08:44] <setuid> juano__, I'm not looking for a better mail client, I'm looking for the latest, to test patches against my code, in pilot-link.
[08:44] <juano__> setuid: Evolution stinks against thunderbird :)
[08:44] <setuid> dabaR, So how do I get newer apps?
[08:44] <pyr0000> robokop: get network manager
[08:45] <setuid> juano__, Show me how I can sync my Palm to Thunderbird (contacts, calendar, tasks, memos), and I'll consider it.
[08:45] <Robokop> pyr0000: i got that one
[08:45] <pyr0000> robokop: i had the same problem but now i can connect and browse but its so slow
[08:45] <dabaR> setuid: you compile them. sudo apt-get build-dep evolution, then configure, make...
[08:45] <setuid> dabaR, I know how to do that, been doing it for years, I need to test the _actual debs_, because Debian/Ubuntu package maintainers like to break working upstream code with rejected and untested patches.
[08:46] <pyr0000> robokop: make sure yo disable the wired
[08:46] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, well, i'd check two things now -- make sure other links to the init scripts exist in /etc/rc2.d .. then i'd try and disable the splash screen on boot to see if errors (if any) are spit out
[08:46] <dabaR> setuid: there is a feisty repository, which has the newest ubuntu stuff.
[08:46] <setuid> dabaR, I'll run it in vmware and see what it breaks, sigh. Thanks.
[08:46] <Tree> dabaR, it says my software index is broken and to use synaptic package manager filters to find out..how do i fix it??
[08:47] <dabaR> Tree: what says that? what did you run?
[08:47] <dabaR> it says...
[08:47] <pkh> un_operateur, there are heaps of init script links in rc2.d (ssh being the most important one -- re splash screen, it's a remote server, I don't get to see anything until ssh into after boot...
[08:47] <reverseblade> juano__: it didnt work. But I reinstalled the nvidia drivers now it works fine
[08:47] <Tree> software updated
[08:47] <Tree> that what i ran
[08:47] <juano__> reverseblade: good
[08:47] <dabaR> Tree: Did you run it in a terminal, or in synaptic?
[08:48] <Tree> it was there in my toolbar
[08:48] <reverseblade> juano__: oh, I am at the office now ,and my boss would kick my ass of , if I couldn't have made it running. Thanks for helping
[08:48] <pkh> un_operateur, I've just disabled the mail serve and rebooted -- will see if that stops.
[08:48] <juano__> reverseblade: :) no prob
[08:49] <Tree> how do i use the filter to fix the broken thing dabaR?
[08:49] <un_operateur> pkh, hmm, is it just apache and mysql behaving this way, do you have other daemons failing too? as for links in rc2.d, i meant others relating to apache and mysql, particularly ones that disable those daemons for that runlevel
[08:49] <dabaR> Tree: the site you will be showing me output of the commands I tell you to run is paste.ubuntu-nl.org. I would like you to run sudo aptitude update in a terminal, and show me the output. Also, I would like to see the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file on the same web site pastebin
[08:49] <hexidigital> Tree::  did you run sudo apt-get update?
[08:49] <Robokop> pyr0000: the problem is i can't test it at home because i only use it at school
[08:49] <un_operateur> pkh, stuff like /etc/rc2.d/K*apache*
[08:49] <Robokop> and no friendly neighbours with unprotected wlan
[08:49] <pkh> un_operateur, no, there's nothing else relating to apache or mysql in rc2.d
[08:50] <pkh> un_operateur, and i am in rc2, checked (just in case...)
[08:50] <SHRIKEE> hi all,
[08:50] <pkh> un_operateur, nope, nothing like that
[08:50] <SHRIKEE> does anyone know a trusty app for gnome, to set a alarm and play a music file atthat time? A bit like Kalarm, but for gnome
[08:50] <un_operateur> pkh, and runlevel 2 is the default according to /etc/inittab (if init is what you use)
[08:51] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, you can always run a cron job  and make your own
[08:51] <M0ses> Hello people
[08:51] <SHRIKEE> thats inefficient for daily use :(
[08:51] <dabaR> SHRIKEE: there is also xmms-alarm, and bmp-alarm, if you use any of those apps.
[08:51] <pkh> un_operateur, yes (was just clutching at straws!)
[08:51] <Tree> dabaR, its updating now u gave me that command but its still broken cos i cant use add/remove
[08:52] <dabaR> Tree: wait til it is done, and show me the output+sources.list in the pastebin.
[08:52] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: you might have a look at Sunbird.
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> dabaR, yea i saw that, but i use rythmbox... so i was looking for an alternative
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> sunbird?
[08:52] <hexidigital> SHRIKEE::  you can install kalarm on gnome if you like... as far as a gnome app that does that, i have no idea
[08:52] <Tree> kk
[08:52] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, do you expect to have your music play at differrent times everyday?
[08:52] <Tree> this may take a few hours tho
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> yes un_operateur
[08:52] <M0ses> question: How do I change screen resolution the Gnome configuration tool only has to 800x600!
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> if it were at the same time a cronjob would suffice yes
[08:52] <dabaR> !fixres > M0ses
[08:52] <n2diy> ! sunbird
[08:52] <ubotu> Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[08:52] <SHRIKEE> but there are days i dont have school, and school starts at different times
[08:53] <un_operateur> SHRIKEE, well, a cronjob will still do, it just depends on how good you are with your editor :)
[08:53] <n2diy> ! sunbird | SHRIKEE
[08:53] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: Mozilla Sunbird is a cross-platform calendar application, built upon Mozilla Toolkit. Our goal is to bring Mozilla-style ease-of-use to your calendar, without tying you to a particular storage solution.
[08:53] <SHRIKEE> fairly new, and the roster changes often...
[08:53] <SHRIKEE> thanks n2diy
[08:53] <pyr0000> easyubuntu to use or not?
[08:53] <M0ses> dabaR: thank you
[08:53] <Linuturk> ok guys, I've trolled the forums for answers, but nothing is working. I have a DWL-122 wireless adapter. The drivers are installed via ndsiwrapper. I have set the SSID, but when i try to ifup the interface, the dhcp fails. Now, I know the dhcp is working because I'm talking to you on a laptop that got it's ip from dhcp. I need help
[08:53] <Tree> dabaR what was the command to open sources.list with admin?
[08:53] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, did the mailserver test work ok?
[08:54] <dabaR> Tree: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <pkh> un_operateur, yes, i K'd it and it didn't start, S'd it and it did
[08:54] <lupine_85> pyr0000: not ;)
[08:54] <pyr0000> lupine: why not?
[08:54] <n2diy> ! easyubuntu | pyr0000
[08:54] <ubotu> pyr0000: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:54] <pkh> un_operateur, rc2.d -> README       S10vzquota  S19mysql          S20makedev    S20networking  S20ssh       S89atd   S91apache2   S98rmnologin  S10sysklogd  S16openvpn  S19mysql-ndb-mgm  S20mysql-ndb  S20rsync       S21sendmail  S89cron  S98rc.local
[08:54] <SHRIKEE> as for sunbird, i could as well use evolution then :P
[08:54] <SHRIKEE> maybe not sucha  bad idea
[08:55] <pyr0000> n2diy: i know i was wondering if you guys use it or if you would recomend it
[08:55] <un_operateur> pkh, oooo, use a !pastebin for long posts
[08:55] <puff> juano__: so about amarok... I'm giving it a try now, I don't see how I access the ipod in i.
[08:55] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: Evolution is the pits.
[08:55] <pkh> un_operateur, sorry, thought that'd be ok
[08:55] <SHRIKEE> n2diy, what do you mean with that?
[08:55] <puff> juano__: Oh, I see "media devices" now.
[08:56] <dabaR> SHRIKEE: calculate the difference in seconds between when you set the alarm, and when you want to be woken up, call the difference X. then run sleep X; rhythmbox blah.ogg
[08:56] <juano__> puff:
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> ew
[08:56] <dabaR> hehe
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> :P
[08:56] <Naik0> what is the commando i can see info about something, e.g fluxbox?
[08:56] <juano__> puff: yeah, you can connect to it through media devices
[08:56] <n2diy> SHRIKEE: I tried it and didn't like it, I forget exactly why now. Sunbird is better, but neither one of them is korganizer.
[08:56] <Naik0> what version iam using
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> korganizer is sexy yes
[08:56] <juano__> puff: then add a song to list and sync it
[08:57] <dabaR> Naik0: see whether fluxbox --version works.
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> oh well, i'll continue my search :) thanks for the honts
[08:57] <Robokop> Naik0: often command --version
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> hints
[08:57] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss
[08:57] <Robokop> Naik0: and for other info man <command>
[08:57] <un_operateur> pkh, errm, i dunno what else -- maybe (backup first) edit the /etc/init.d/apache2 script and include some debug messages that can be redirected into your own custom log .. or reinstall apache and mysql after backing up the configuration files
[08:57] <Tree> dubaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1025/
[08:57] <Tree> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1026/
[08:57] <n2diy> ! korganizer
[08:57] <ubotu> korganizer: KDE personal organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1530 kB, installed size 4596 kB
[08:58] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss
[08:58] <un_operateur> Naik0, what information precisely?
[08:58] <pkh> un_operateur, ok, thanks heaps for your help.
[08:59] <dabaR> Tree: close your synaptic.
[08:59] <Naik0> un_operateur: version of fluxbox
[08:59] <dabaR> Tree: run sudo aptitude update again, and post the output of it again, and give me a link, pls.
[08:59] <un_operateur> Naik0, fluxbox -v and fluxbox -i
[08:59] <Tree> dabar: heres the eror when i open the gui updater:
[08:59] <Tree> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[09:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Has anyone dealt with the issue of firestarter rules preventing synce/multisync from symchronising with a PDA ?
[09:00] <dabaR> Tree: then close synaptic, run "sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude -f install;sudo aptitude install -f;sudo apt-get -f install;sudo apt-get install -f"
[09:01] <dabaR> Tree: show me the output you get from that on the pastebin, please.
[09:01] <dabaR> Can you read this if you have some knowledge of ppc netboot or netboot in general: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1024/ ?
[09:02] <kouran> hello. how do i get vlc to play my dvds? i have installed libdvdcss ......can anyone help?
[09:03] <puff> juano__: To create a playlist, it looks like I just drag stuff from the media pane on the left to the big pane on the right, then do "Playlist/Save as Playlist", but how do I get it onto the media device?
[09:03] <dabaR> kouran: you should follow instructions for dvd shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:03] <puff> juano__: Does it automatically save onto the media device because I'm dragging stuff onto it from the media device pane?
[09:03] <alumno02> hola
[09:03] <dabaR> hola!
[09:04] <alumno02> quien ers??
[09:04] <dabaR> !es | alumno02
[09:04] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:04] <kouran> dabaR, ive done that. i said ive installed the packages. i still can get it to work
[09:04] <alumno02> im spanish!!
[09:04] <un_operateur> dabaR, /var/log/tftpd.log perhaps? -- or use the --logfile option to tftpd (man tftpd) to set one
[09:05] <dabaR> Im yugoslavian!!
[09:05] <alumno03> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:05] <Tree> still doing that check
[09:05] <alumno02> ey!! q tl? wapa??
[09:05] <alumno03> k tal?
[09:05] <alumno03> kien eres?
[09:05] <n2diy> ! spanish
[09:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:05] <alumno02> yp soy carm,en!
[09:05] <puff> juano__: Garrr... still no playlists on the ipod.
[09:05] <dabaR> as if anyone is buying that.
[09:05] <alumno03> ola presiosa
[09:05] <RODvido> !south african
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about south african - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <RODvido> lol...
[09:06] <n2diy> ! sa
[09:06] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[09:06] <alumno03> carmen una cosa
[09:06] <juano__> puff: you should right click on the songs in the list , there should be an option move to media.. or something like that dont recall much
[09:06] <juano__> puff: try with songs in your library
[09:06] <alumno02> q
[09:06] <puff> juano__: well, right now I have all the songs I want on the ipod (for now at least), I want to create a playlist.
[09:06] <Jowi> alumno02, "/join #ubuntu-es"
[09:06] <alumno03> kieres venir a drmir a mi casa el viernes  alumno 02??
[09:07] <alumno02> emm
[09:07] <alumno02> lo pensare
[09:07] <dabaR> un_operateur: the thing is that there is nothing related to tftp in /var/log/, and there is also no log option that I can see in the tftpd manual.
[09:07] <alumno03> weno....asi despues d caballo.....y luego el sabado!!!!!!!
[09:10] <k010> whats ab lp driver?
[09:10] <k010> whats an lp driver?
[09:10] <dabaR> a printer driver, maybe.
[09:10] <dabaR> where did you see that?
[09:10] <k010> within the dmesg
[09:10] <^AnDrEw^> im back agen
[09:11] <dabaR> well, show exact line...
[09:11] <k010> it says loaded lp driver but no device found
[09:11] <Tree> dubaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1027/
[09:11] <Tree> it works!!
[09:11] <Tree> <3
[09:11] <k010> [17179590.352000]  lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[09:11] <dabaR> Tree: good work.
[09:11] <Tree> no, u did it all
[09:11] <Tree> thankyou
[09:11] <dabaR> k010: ask google for that line.
[09:11] <kouran> can someone please help me with getting dvd to work? ive installed libdvdcss
[09:12] <n2diy> ! dvd
[09:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:12] <dabaR> k010: ya, it looks like it is a printer driver.
[09:12] <den_> ! expect tcl
[09:12] <ubotu> expect: A program that can automate interactive applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5.43.0-6 (edgy), package size 274 kB, installed size 520 kB
[09:12] <kouran> i just said ive installed libdvdcss....
[09:13] <k010> dabaR, ok
[09:13] <dabaR> k010: do you have a printer connected?
[09:13] <den_> !component main
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about component main - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <k010> dabaR, no i dnt
[09:13] <nhamilton> hey all.. anyone able to give me some tips or point me in the directions for setting up dual-head monitors with an intel driver, using DVI and VGA output? i've been looking for hours and its killing me... I got it going on a different machine using fglrx, but no idea how to get it working with the intel drivers...
[09:13] <dabaR> !components > den_
[09:13] <dabaR> k010: that would make sense...
[09:14] <den_> thanks
[09:14] <alumno02> HOLA!!!!
[09:14] <alumno02> how are you?'
[09:16] <alumno02> hello!!
[09:16] <alumno02> how are you!!
[09:16] <foRza> Does anyone know how the auto-mount system works on ubuntu, and how to configure it?
[09:16] <alumno02> no!
[09:16] <spamas> helloppl
[09:16] <spamas> how it's going :}
[09:17] <SilentDis> !hi | alumno02
[09:17] <ubotu> alumno02: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:17] <talisein> nhamilton: did you see http://intellinuxgraphics.org/man.html#layout ?
[09:17] <Cousarr> I was attempting to install ubuntu earlier and it's not recognizing my raid array. I've got a disk with the RAID drivers, but ubuntu doesn't ask for it before asking to create partitions. Any ideas?
[09:17] <alumno02> aaa ok!
[09:17] <Lc_945x3> foRza: if you are running gnome, you can go to system Removable devices and drives and configure it from there.
[09:17] <alumno02> where are you from??
[09:18] <alumno02> where are yuo from?
[09:18] <nhamilton> hi talisein
[09:18] <Cousarr> alumno02: To whom was that directed?
[09:18] <gandalfcome> I have trouble with dual screen on edgy. my graphics card is a ati mobility x700. whenever I shift the mouse to the second screen. I get an annoying offset of the mouse on the first one. meaning: If I want to click a button I have to shift the mouse pointer above the actual button. please help
[09:18] <talisein> nhamilton: hi
[09:18] <nhamilton> i did start looking through the intellinux graphics page, but it appears to be down at the moment....
[09:18] <n2diy> alumno02: there are 888 users here, do you want us all to answer you? If you have a question ask it.
[09:18] <SilentDis> alumno02, this is mainly a help forum for the Ubuntu Linux operating system, and it's many offspring, not a 'social channel'.  got a question about ubuntu we can help you solve?
[09:19] <alumno01> hello!!!
[09:19] <dabaR> foRza: Well, the partitions that automount at boot are all specified in /etc/fstab.
[09:19] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr,  do you have hardware raid as in on board raid or its derivatives, or are you going the software route
[09:19] <pradeep> spamas, not very well
[09:19] <Lc_945x3> ?
[09:19] <alumno01> whwre are you from??
[09:20] <talisein> nhamilton: works for me. Try puttying Option MonterLayout "CRT+DFP"
[09:20] <n0ne> Can anyone help me with sound in kubuntu?
[09:20] <foRza> The problem is when I insert an USB pen, I see in mtab that the system mounted it with "async". I need "sync".
[09:20] <Cousarr> It's hardware. Specifically the onboard SATA on the Asus A8V
[09:20] <alumno02>  SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:20] <SilentDis> alumno01, alumno02, please, ask your question about ubuntu.
[09:20] <alumno01> hols alumno 02
[09:20] <nhamilton> talisein: and using the installed i810 driver?
[09:20] <SilentDis> !es | alumno02
[09:20] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:21] <alumno02> hola alumno01
[09:21] <gandalfcome> noone has an ati dual screen setup?
[09:21] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hrm, sorry I cant really help you then.. I had the same problem when I was installing linux to my raid array but I set up a software raid and that worked out ok.
[09:21] <talisein> nhamilton: aww, intel page says monitorlayout is only supported on 830M+
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:21] <SilentDis> last time...
[09:21] <SilentDis> !es | alumno02
[09:21] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:21] <n2diy> ! caps | alumno02
[09:21] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: If  worse comes to worse you can always just ditch the onboard raid as using software raid should give you the same performance
[09:21] <ubotu> alumno02: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:22] <alumno03_> olasss
[09:22] <SilentDis> !ops
[09:22] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:22] <alumno03_> k tal wapiximas?
[09:22] <Cousarr> I'm attempting to do a dual boot system. WinXp and ubuntu. Would a software solution work cross-platform?
[09:22] <sjr> Um why does Ubuntu support hibernation if there is no swap partition available
[09:22] <alumno02> I'M DON'T SHOUT!
[09:22] <un_operateur> .   o   0 (  wonder why alumno needs to be logged in multiple times)
[09:22] <dabaR> alumno02: please do not repeat yourself in the channel, or we will have to remove you from the channel. If you need help in spanish, type "/j #ubuntu-es". If you have an Ubuntu support question, please ask in english here, and we will do out best to help.
[09:22] <alumno03_> ana...HOLA
[09:22] <sjr> Question 2) what is the default password for the ubuntu user on the screen saver
[09:22] <alumno03_> carmen...HOLA
[09:22] <^AnDrEw^> can someone help me>
[09:23] <alumno02> HOLA!!! ELENITA,WAPA!
[09:23] <^AnDrEw^> i cant click install on ubuntu
[09:23] <alumno03_> k tal bmb?
[09:23] <dabaR> sjr: in the live CD?
[09:23] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:23] <talisein> nhamilton: I don't see anything on how to get it to work on i810. =(
[09:23] <sjr> dabaR yeah
[09:23] <nhamilton> doh
[09:23] <puff> juano__: Okay, so still no playlists, but at least I can add files.  I do find amarok simpler and easier than ipod, now that I know how it's supposed to work.
[09:23] <QwertyM> hey, I am getting an update for Linux-kernel generic but when I try installing that it says nvidia-glx will be removed
[09:23] <frogzoo> !es | alumno02
[09:23] <ubotu> alumno02: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:23] <alumno03_> Hi andrew
[09:23] <talisein> alumno02: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:23] <QwertyM> scares me
[09:23] <alumno01> hello
[09:23] <puff> juano__: Thanks, and please, if you see clearzen, relay my thanks.
[09:23] <dabaR> sjr: I do not think there is a password. You can try adding one, but maybe just kill the screensaver process...
[09:23] <alumno02> HOLA ANA,WAPA!!!
[09:23] <alumno03_> Hi frogzoo
[09:23] <^AnDrEw^> is there any other way i can do it without loading the main ubuntu screen?
[09:24] <alumno01> jeje
[09:24] <SilentDis> frogzoo, talisein, i've tried that twice, he's multi in, and channel spamming.  i did an !ops already
[09:24] <alumno01> prexiosa
[09:24] <alumno02> HELLO PUFF!
[09:24] <nhamilton> talisein: so i can't use my brand new 24" LCD monitor in dual mode :(
[09:24] <alumno03_> ok ok I not speak english
[09:24] <alumno03_> andrew
[09:24] <dabaR> ^AnDrEw^: get the alternate CD.
[09:24] <alumno01> hello
[09:24] <^AnDrEw^> where from?
[09:24] <alumno02> NO!
[09:24] <talisein> nhamilton: if you have 24" then why do you need a second monitor? ;)
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hrm if you are dual booting and already have the onboard raid set up with windows its prolly going to be a bitch to reconfigure it
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <SilentDis> !ops
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:24] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:24] <frogzoo> !ops
[09:24] <alumno03_> mallorca and you andrew?
[09:25] <un_operateur> !medic
[09:25] <n2diy> ! ops
[09:25] <alumno01> hello
[09:25] <dabaR> ^AnDrEw^: releases.ubuntu.com/edgy
[09:25] <QwertyM> hey, I am getting an update for Linux-kernel generic but when I try installing that it says nvidia-glx will be removed
[09:25] <alumno02> andrew!!!
[09:25] <nhamilton> talisein: its like a mistriss and a wife...
[09:25] <alumno03_> andrew where are toy from?
[09:25] <alumno02> andrewww
[09:25] <nhamilton> *mistress
[09:25] <alumno01> hellow andrew
[09:25] <alumno02> are you here??
[09:25] <alumno03_> how old  are you?
[09:25] <^AnDrEw^> no
[09:25] <talisein> nhamilton: naughty. ;) Or is this a screen that you're hooking up to your laptop?
[09:25] <alumno02> no?
[09:25] <Cousarr> Heh, yeah. I wouldn't mind the reinstall though as I recently replaced the drives anyway. It would just take a stronger motivation than the two i've got for finally getting around to the install tonight.
[09:26] <alumno03_> aaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddddddrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[09:26] <alumno03_> ANDREW
[09:26] <alumno03_> ANDRIU
[09:26] <alumno01> hello erik
[09:26] <alumno02> andrew: where are you from?
[09:26] <^AnDrEw^> uk
[09:26] <alumno02> ok
[09:26] <SilentDis> please don't feed the trolls
[09:26] <SilentDis> lol
[09:26] <IntuitiveNipple> If anyone wants to ignore the spam - simply type /ignore <nickname>
[09:26] <QwertyM> ^AnDrEw^, I doubt if he's talking to you :p
[09:26] <nhamilton> talisein: no, just a desktop... i hooked my laptop in using synergy hehe... I know it sounds like overkill, but it would really be helpful.. plus I want to work on my LCD tan
[09:26] <mneptok> !es > alumno02
[09:27] <alumno02> i'm spanish!
[09:27] <alumno03_> HOW OLD ARE YOU ANDREW
[09:27] <talisein> nhamilton: are you sure you only have an i810 chip?
[09:27] <alumno03_> ?
[09:27] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: hmm well I've never set up software raid in windows but I don't think it would be that hard. As for installing ubuntu on the raid if you go the software raid route it should work.
[09:27] <alumno01> hello andrew
[09:27] <mneptok> !offtopic > alumno01
[09:27] <alumno01> how are you?
[09:27] <alumno02> andrew: how old are you?
[09:27] <nhamilton> sorry - i thought i mentioned that I had a intel 945G chip
[09:28] <talisein> nhamilton: no, that's key
[09:28] <n2diy> mneptok: they've been at it for 15 minutes.
[09:28] <un_operateur> por qu eres el actuar enojado? si necesitas ayupor qu eres el actuar enojado? si necesitas ayuda en espaol, ir por favor al #ubuntu-es, al #kubuntu-es o al #edubuntu-es.da en espaol, ir por favor al #ubuntu-es, al #kubuntu-es o al #edubuntu-es.
[09:28] <nhamilton> the i810 driver is what got installed
[09:28] <IntuitiveNipple> To ignore the spammers type: /ignore<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ALL
[09:28] <mneptok> n2diy: charming
[09:28] <alumno02> aNdrew. how old are you??
[09:28] <talisein> IntuitiveNipple: thank you
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> Cousarr: See what I did for the install of the software raid was I installed linux to one of the drives first
[09:28] <talisein> nhamilton: ok hold on
[09:28] <alumno01> plis answer thwe question: where are you from??andrew
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> then I configured the system to support raid 0
[09:28] <Lc_945x3> then just added the other drive
[09:29] <alumno03_> andrew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANDREWWW
[09:29] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, thank you for that.  wonder what happened to the ops.  they usually like to put the big boot of kickination on right away for stuff like this lol
[09:29] <dabaR> haha
[09:29] <alumno03_> CAPULLO
[09:29] <alumno01> cabronb
[09:29] <alumno01>
[09:29] <IntuitiveNipple> SilentDis: Probably fast asleep in bed :)
[09:29] <talisein> nhamilton: the i810 package is just the generic package for all intel drivers
[09:29] <alumno02> andrew are you dide?
[09:29] <alumno01> capullo
[09:29] <alumno02> cabron
[09:30] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, like all of us should be, i suppose.  lol
[09:30] <talisein> nhamilton: if you put Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT+DFP" in your section device, it should work
[09:30] <Tree> dabaR: would you know how to install jdk??
[09:30] <IntuitiveNipple> Well maybe... it's 8.30am here :)
[09:30] <alumno02> andrew are you dide????
[09:30] <talisein> nhamilton: if not try a comma instead of a +
[09:30] <Cousarr> The only problem I see with that, is that the WinXp OS wouldn't be able to benefit from the linux-side software RAID
[09:30] <alumno02> where are you?
[09:30] <dabaR> Tree: that is simple.   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ivp6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <SilentDis> IntuitiveNipple, maybe, enough client beeps, and it'll wake 'em up, so they can kickinate him :)
[09:32] <n2diy> ! ipv6 | harp
[09:32] <ubotu> harp: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:32] <harp> thnx
[09:32] <Cousarr> At least as far as I understand how a software RAID would work. If linux is managing the RAID, and I don't boot 'nix but instead boot XP, XP doesn't see the RAID; which would leave me with the same problem.
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <alumno01> whwt you ignor alumno?
[09:33] <alumno02> SORRY I'M SPANISH,AND I'M NOT UNDERSTAND IT!!
[09:33] <nhamilton> talisein: just tried it, its given me a black screen.. I'll just double check the settings
[09:33] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: That is correct, unless you're using a 'FakeRAID' card that has Windows drivers, such as Promise FastTrak etc
[09:33] <alumno01> why you ignor alumno?
[09:33] <Tomcat_> !es | alumno01
[09:33] <ubotu> alumno01: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:33] <alumno02> aRE you speak sapnish?
[09:33] <talisein> nhamilton: is intellinuxgraphics.org still not working for you? theres a lot of options to play with. ;)
[09:34] <IntuitiveNipple> If using 'FakeRAID' in Linux via dmraid, both Windows and Linux can use it from boot
[09:34] <Tree> yeh dabaR i have no idea wat to do?
[09:34] <SilentDis> Tomcat_, don't bother, we've tried multiple times, and the devs are all sleeping right now.  ah well :)
[09:34] <SilentDis> Tomcat_, er, not devs, ops.
[09:34] <Cousarr> Well, I'm using a hardware RAID right noe that's of via make. That's what I was originally trying to get to work. Is there some reason a fake RAID would work, but a hardware wouldn't?
[09:35] <alumno02> andrew are you here?
[09:35] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: no, because by its nature a true hardware raid is invisible to the OS
[09:35] <nhamilton> talisein: yeah - seems i can't resolve the dns for it... I'm in Australia... I can hit other pages fine atm...
[09:35] <SilentDis> Cousarr, just curious:  what kind of hardware raid controller are you using?  there's a SLIM chance that there's some weird incompatability with ubuntu and it...
[09:35] <Tree> dabaR?
[09:35] <Cousarr> Asus A8V onboard via SATA
[09:36] <talisein> nhamilton: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <SilentDis> Cousarr, hang on, i'm hitting google on it...
[09:36] <nhamilton> talisein: what is the best approach to getting out of X when I can't see anything? do i have to reboot the computer?
[09:36] <dabaR> Tree: are you still trying to install the jdk?
[09:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: That's a Promise FakeRAID I believe
[09:36] <talisein> nhamilton: hit CTRL-ALT-Backspace a few times
[09:36] <Tree> yeh i cant find it
[09:36] <Tree> i downloaded it tho
[09:36] <Tree> i have it in my home/luke/
[09:36] <n2diy> nhamilton: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:37] <Tree> just dunno wat to do with it once its extracted
[09:37] <Cousarr> Hmm... I thought the promise controller was the IDE on this mobo
[09:37] <IntuitiveNipple> Cousarr: It's the Promise PDC20378
[09:37] <talisein> nhamilton: if that doesn't work after a minute, try ctrl-alt-F1
[09:37] <talisein> nhamilton: if that gives nothing, rebooting is probably faster than waiting to see if its actually frozen
[09:37] <dabaR> Tree: does aptitude search jdk return anything?
[09:37] <nhamilton> thanks... didn't work...  i think i tried the f1 combo
[09:37] <Tree> no dabaR