[12:01] <mnoir> jewbilee: that is the word 'type' followed by the command you want to find
[12:01] <DARKGuy> Does the "vesa" or "trident" driver support OpenGL/GLX stuff? I know my Trident 9660 can do some D3D in Windows, then I suspect it can do at least some software OpenGL under Linux, right?
[12:01] <theflyingfool> nevermind it is working again
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> juano: In Ubuntu that info is determined by /etc/hosts, so I'm guessing that if it's not working in Windows that's a Windows issue?
[12:02] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  i cant view the seperate access points (except in networking but i cant connect) and i cant get keyring to initialize.. pretty much the whole thing isnt working
[12:02] <belkin> did anyone installed and used " clamav " ?
[12:02] <mnoir> !anyone | belkin
[12:02] <ubotu> belkin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:02] <Tenris> Jowi> My bios detects my HD, and there is windows on the disk
[12:03] <Jowi> Tenris, there is a bug reported here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978 for the a abit motherboard. see if it rings any bells
[12:03] <belkin> :)
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: Had you followed the wiki directions first?
[12:03] <jewbilee> Im trying to run network-manager-gnome but i cant find it
[12:03] <juano> tonyyarusso: yeah, could be, i can get in ubuntu comp with ip form windows, but not by name
[12:03] <riotkittie> tonyyarusso: which file system are you using ?
[12:03] <mnoir> jewbilee: you can also use synaptic to find it
[12:03] <Dormot> burepe you there?
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> juano: I'd look into how the hosts file works in win - should point you in the right direction.
[12:03] <jewbilee> mnoir: ive already installed it
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: ext3
[12:03] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  nope i suppose i had better try that.. i have rebooted over 30 times with different configs
[12:04] <mnoir> jewbilee: I SAID FIND IT
[12:04] <jewbilee> mnoir: OK CHILL OUT
[12:04] <juano> tonyyarusso: ok thx
[12:04] <auTONYmous> jewbilee: nm-applet
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> imbecile: Well, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager then
[12:04] <Soccrmastr> all: LOL
[12:04] <Soccrmastr> heh 0.o
[12:04] <Dormot> burepe you there?
[12:04] <mnoir> jewbilee: synaptic knows where stuff it installed is located
[12:05] <riotkittie> argh. the only growfs tool ubuntu seems to have works with xfs
[12:05] <auTONYmous> jewbilee is probably looking for the tray icon...its "nm-applet"
[12:05] <belkin> after installing clamav, clamav-data, clamav-freshclam  do i need to chnage anything in the config file to make it work properly ?
[12:05] <Mikey> sorry to interrupt, but did anyone heard of running ralink cardbus wifi card in ubuntu?
[12:05] <jewbilee> its all good
[12:05] <jewbilee> can someone help me with the WEP key though?
[12:05] <jewbilee> do I just copy the key from my router
[12:05] <imbecile> tonyyarusso,  thanks alot man
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> riotkittie: Someone else suggested resize2fs, from e2fsprogs. Looks promising.
[12:05] <jewbilee> or do i need anything before it
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> jewbilee: If what you have is a 26 letter alphanumeric, just copy it in
[12:06] <auTONYmous> jewbilee: after you load the applet, you need to set add the network to the list. You'll have a place to put the key in
[12:06] <riotkittie> tonyyarusso: ahh, cool. hopefully it works
[12:06] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome.
[12:06] <theflyingfool>  does this make sence to anyone nicholas@TheBeast:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Password:
[12:06] <theflyingfool> /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Usage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable]
[12:06] <theflyingfool> nicholas@TheBeast:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:06] <theflyingfool> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:06] <theflyingfool> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:07] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: add printer -> choose SMB printer...the rest should be self-explanatory
[12:07] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: I thought so too, but that's not working for me
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> !paste | theflyingfool
[12:07] <ubotu> theflyingfool: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:07] <mnoir> !flood | theflyingfool (should be thefloodingfool)
[12:07] <ubotu> theflyingfool (should be thefloodingfool): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <theflyingfool> when is it considered a flood?
[12:07] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: can you browse your XP computer through the "Places" panel?
[12:08] <owh> theflyingfool: When you paste more than two lines :-)
[12:08] <mirak> is there something like window supercopier on linux for Gnome ???
[12:08] <mnoir> theflyingfool: around here + than like 1 line
[12:08] <mnoir> owh - izzat official :)?
[12:08] <jrib> theflyingfool: use nvidia-xconfig instead
[12:08] <jrib> theflyingfool: (if you are using edgy)
[12:08] <elyon225> How do I change the gnome splash screen?
[12:08] <owh> mnoir: No, just the point at which I become annoyed :-)
[12:08] <mnoir> owh: tnx :)
[12:08] <jrib> !nvidia | theflyingfool
[12:08] <ubotu> theflyingfool: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <Silver_Seagull> pianoboy3333: I am no pro, have you been to this resource? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1000
[12:09] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: yes... Places -> Network Servers -> Windows Servers -> MSHOME -> SUPERCOMPUTER
[12:09] <mnoir> !splash | elyon225
[12:09] <ubotu> elyon225: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[12:09] <auTONYmous> ok. Have you shared the printer out (From XP)?
[12:09] <riotkittie> your workgroup is named MSHOME?!
[12:09] <riotkittie> dude.
[12:10] <jewbilee> I went through a tutorial for Ndiswrapper, followed it exactly, and I still cant get my wireless to work
[12:10] <auTONYmous> don't kill him...
[12:10] <ScreaminIke> a default 6.10 install, then "sudo apt-get install mythtv -y" doesn't get me a working mythtv. looks like an error communicating with MySQL ... can someone hold my hand a bit?
[12:10] <elyon225> mnoir: Where IS the gnome splash screen manager?
[12:10] <mnoir> riotkittie: izznt that the default?
[12:10] <riotkittie> auTONYmous: ok :P
[12:10] <riotkittie> mnoir: yes.
[12:10] <ikonia> ScreaminIke you have to configure it
[12:10] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: You'd die if you knew how many people I know with their router admin password as blank or 'admin'
[12:11] <mnoir> elyon225: i do not know - ya might try !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[12:11] <elyon225> mnoir: I did.
[12:11] <auTONYmous> you'd really die if you knew how many people actually thought WEP is secure...
[12:11] <mnoir> hmm - too bad i run kde
[12:11] <Mikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/879/plain/
[12:11] <ScreaminIke> how, ikonia?
[12:11] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: hahah, no. i wouldnt die. as much as these things surprise me... they dont /really/ surprise me.
[12:12] <mnoir> elyon225: so you've instaslled it?
[12:12] <lupine_85> auTONYmous: it's scary, isn't it? :p
[12:12] <elyon225> mnoir: Ah.  no.
[12:12] <lupine_85> my local primary school uses WEP
[12:12] <lupine_85> (local as in, directly opposite me)
[12:12] <mnoir> elyon225: so what part of that helpful ! thingie did you use?
[12:12] <h3xis> wep isnt as weak as people think it is
[12:13] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: many companies bought WEP-only equipment prior to all the holes being exploited, and don't want to spend money upgrading
[12:13] <mirak> is there something like window supercopier on linux for Gnome ???
[12:13] <DigitalNinja> does anyone know if you can get a license for w32codecs?
[12:13] <Mikey> can you point me to this walkthrough for wireless please?
[12:13] <Silver_Seagull> Startup conundrum.  Knoppix LiveDVD 5.1.0 runs fine and smooth on my PC, however Ubuntu (the distro I want) won't start the xserver.  I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and setting all the correct values by hand, but no love.  Advice?
[12:13] <ScreaminIke> h3xis, a 4-person access point with MINIMAL web browsing can be cracked in 3 days. with heavy bw usage, you might crack it in an hour or two
[12:13] <jrib> mirak: what does it do?
[12:13] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help print to a HP LaserJet 1000 connected to a Windows XP machine on my house network? I'm on edgy/gnome. When I try and print anything, when I click System -> Admin. -> Printing -> (right click on my printer) Properties, under status it says "Printing: No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!"
[12:13] <riotkittie> !=weak as people think it is == still weak
[12:13] <elyon225> mnoir: Well, see... it didn't specify that it needed to be installed.  After reinstalling Ubuntu, I'm missing a lot of apps that were included the first time (including an app to change the splash screen).  I didn't have to install something different the first time and I assumed I wouldn't have to this time either.
[12:13] <hjmills> !wifi | Mikey
[12:13] <ubotu> Mikey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:13] <h3xis> ScreaminIke, depends on the version of WEP being used
[12:13] <lupine_85> ...but most upgrades are just firmware updates..s
[12:13] <elyon225> mnoir: Without patience, I think you're in the wrong channel.
[12:14] <Mikey> hjmills thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankyou
[12:14] <mirak> jrib: when you copy files from folder to folder it queues them. if run two concurrent copy it queue them, so hard drive doesn't crush to death
[12:14] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: check the printer properties, and turn off the header page
[12:14] <mirak> jrib: and be inoptimal
[12:14] <lupine_85> h3xis: erm, no. All wep is easily hackable. Some WPA is, also
[12:14] <ScreaminIke> wep has a bad predictable "psuedo-random" number string.
[12:14] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: ok...
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, erm, no. i suggest you look up the differing versions
[12:14] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: is it locking up, or just not loading ?
[12:14] <lupine_85> what, 40bit or 128bit keys?
[12:14] <h3xis> WEP is not the same as it was years ago
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, no
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, WEP+
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, for example.
[12:14] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: now I have "Printing: Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds..."
[12:14] <lupine_85> ...which isn't WEP...
[12:14] <h3xis> lupine_85, yes it is
[12:15] <lupine_85> no, it's WEP+ :p
[12:15] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:15] <h3xis> lupine_85, ph pfft :P
[12:15] <caminomaster> hello
[12:15] <lupine_85> does it work on WEP-only equipment?
[12:15] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: Oh...you do have a communication problem to the printer. I think that link to linuxprinting.org can help with that
[12:15] <riotkittie> thats like saying a whopper junior is a whopper. ;p
[12:15] <caminomaster> what command show me the ati memory?
[12:15] <auTONYmous> pianoboy3333: google "linux samba printing"
[12:15] <ikonia> caminomaster I don't think is one
[12:15] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: After the progress bar gets to ~95%, I get funny colored lines of dots across the logo and it sits like a rock.  I can't kill anything or drop to console, but the machine isn't hardlocked: my Numlock still responds :P
[12:15] <pianoboy3333> auTONYmous: yea.... I'm having problems pinging the computer, I need to fix that first...
[12:15] <h3xis> lupine_85, well, i attended a seminar some time ago about wireless security and it's been implemented into several devices but is advertised as just WEP
[12:16] <lupine_85> caminomaster: lspci will usually give you some luck
[12:16] <lupine_85> h3xis: advertising != reality
[12:16] <auTONYmous> well, the average garden variety home router purchased in the past year or so probably has WEP or WPA, not WEP+
[12:16] <h3xis> lupine_85, sure it does
[12:16] <lupine_85> mm, so why is my BB 8x slower than advertised?
[12:16] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: ahh. what kind of vid card do you have?
[12:16] <lupine_85> marketing bods don't have a clue
[12:16] <h3xis> lupine_85, because it's a POS?
[12:17] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:17] <foob> when i type "sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1/ -o umask=0007" i get: "Use the force option to work a mounted filesystem. Mount failed." What should I do?
[12:17] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: ATi X1900xtx 512MB in a PCI-e slot
[12:17] <imbecile> Please someone help me, my nm-applet isnt working and in session it says its disabled heres a screenshot if anyone can tell me what to do http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3879/screenshot1fm4.th.png
[12:17] <riotkittie> oops. toddler approaching my computer. eek.
[12:17] <lupine_85> no, because calling a bit a byte doesn't make it 8x larger. Similarly, calling an incompatible protocol (WEP+) 'WEP' doesn't make it WEP
[12:17] <riotkittie> imbecile: click 'enable'?
[12:17] <riotkittie> Silver_Seagull: ahh. cant help you there.
[12:17] <Silver_Seagull> riotkittie: but like I said, Knoppix runs perfectly
[12:18] <riotkittie> brb
[12:18] <imbecile> riotkittie, i can only click disable
[12:18] <h3xis> lupine_85, windows or any other OS sees WEP+ as WEP and it connects. it's not like WPA and WPA2.
[12:18] <checkmate> imbecile, is that pic a thumbnail? i can't make it large
[12:18] <mooey> imbecile, the --sm-disable doesn't mean its actually disabled
[12:18] <mooey> checkmate, http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3879/screenshot1fm4.png
[12:18] <lupine_85> but can WEP equipment use WEP+ encryption?
[12:18] <riotkittie> imbecile: oh. well. oh. :P  i should have known that was the case.
[12:18] <lupine_85> without firmware updates, etc?
[12:18] <h3xis> lupine_85, depends on the firmware
[12:19] <lupine_85> exactly
[12:19] <lupine_85> WEP != WEP+. end.
[12:19] <h3xis> lupine_85, im stubborn. i r teh winnar.
[12:20] <riotkittie> h3xis: indeed you are. stubborn, that is :P
[12:20] <yuv656> hello, how do I use widescreen (1280x800) on my HP pavilion dv5205?
[12:20] <h3xis> riotkittie, ^^
[12:20] <Mikey> it ralink suported at all, becasue i cant find it in the wiki =\
[12:20] <ikonia> yuv656 configure Xorg
[12:20] <h3xis> Mikey, yes
[12:20] <lupine_85> Mikey: ralink are /all/ supported
[12:20] <Mikey> thx h3xis
[12:20] <lupine_85> and recommended by the FSF, no less :)
[12:20] <lupine_85> Use Edgy for greater ease of use (more recent drivers)
[12:21] <imbecile> checkmate,  oops http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1fm4.png
[12:21] <i3d> If I want to shrink a dvd-9 dvd to dvd-5, any tools avail under Linux?
[12:21] <Soccrmastr> in your display settings you can change resolution of the screen
[12:21] <auTONYmous> i3d: xdvdshrink
[12:21] <i3d> auTONYmous: that's not an app under wine right? I mean native?
[12:21] <auTONYmous> yes, native
[12:22] <i3d> auTONYmous: great!
[12:22] <riotkittie> after my experience with the live cd, i ph33r an edgy install.  i suppose itd be alright if i used the alt disc but there's something ridiculousy satisfying about being able to goof off online during an install ;p
[12:22] <auTONYmous> i3d: hence, the "X"DVDSHRINK name...
[12:22] <imbecile> mooey,  what does the "disabled" mean? i know i have the app i just cant get it working
[12:22] <ikonia> riotkittie I'm in the processes of returning to 6.0.6 - edgy just doesn't have the polish
[12:22] <Soccrmastr> wtf, Im upating to 6.10 as we speak
[12:22] <linuxnewbie756> is there a way i can get my drives on my desktop (ipod, cd drives, etc) to show up without any text?
[12:22] <kane77> i3d, k9copy
[12:22] <Soccrmastr> lol
[12:22] <Silver_Seagull> Does anyone know how to boot the Ubuntu CD to a command line?  6.06 or 6.10, either or.
[12:23] <knoppix> hello
[12:23] <riotkittie> ikonia: yeah, i am not sure there's real reason for me to update. dapper works just fine.
[12:23] <mnoir> riotkittie: i did 2 upg with no problem but lots of folks hv had lots of problems
[12:23] <ikonia> riotkittie its using technology with some serious mainstream bugs (not that other distros aren't) and it has some quesionable future proof decisions in it
[12:23] <i3d> auTONYmous: Thanks for sharing! btw, does it remove the region code and multiencryption stuff?
[12:24] <auTONYmous> i3d: don't quite know that much...I have it installed, but haven't used it yet
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> Im on fetching and installing updates
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> in the temrinal drop down box says Configuring console seyup
[12:24] <i3d> auTONYmous: I see.. I will give it a try
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> and has a list of choices
[12:24] <Soccrmastr> what do I choose?
[12:24] <i3d> auTONYmous: Thanks!!
[12:24] <lupine_85> edgy > dapper :p
[12:24] <lupine_85> except for the dash stuff
[12:24] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: I second that
[12:24] <mooey> imbecile, the --sm-disable - i dont know what it means, but it wont stop it running. if you run nm-applet from a terminal, does it fire up OK?
[12:24] <ikonia> lupine_85 all depends on your hardware and configuration
[12:25] <lupine_85> true, I guess
[12:25] <Mikey> i got a problem tho, when i first run ubuntu install, it detected the card (ra0) and then after setting up all the wireles things its froze, no it wont detect it again
[12:25] <auTONYmous> IMO Edgy > Fedora 6 > SuSE whatever
[12:25] <lupine_85> but Free software is updated so quickly, LTS becomes stale IMO :/
[12:25] <blanky> I'm open to questions!
[12:25] <riotkittie> ikonia: ahhh, thank you! i have been asking for peoples thoughts on edgy for a while now, and it seems youre the first to give me an opinion with some measure of substance to it
[12:25] <ikonia> lupine_85 I think LTS will start to move quicker
[12:26] <auTONYmous> blanky: Why does man engage in warfare?
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  do i just type nm-applet in terminal?
[12:26] <riotkittie> imbecile: yes
[12:26] <mooey> imbecile, i guess, yea. its been a long while since i used networkmanager :}
[12:26] <lupine_85> ikonia: they can't do backports fast enough, really
[12:26] <demboch> join torun
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  then no it doesnt work
[12:26] <blanky> auTONYmous: it happens when one group has more cookies than another group
[12:26] <auTONYmous> imbecile: or open System > Preferences > Session Manager and add it to start
[12:26] <ikonia> riotkittie thank you, I do try to substantiate rather than jump on the xgl band wagon
[12:26] <auTONYmous> blanky: LOL
[12:26] <mooey> imbecile, what does it do?
[12:26] <ikonia> lupine_85 thats true - but I think that will pick up
[12:26] <blanky> thanks pengy, now I will not engage in warfare
[12:26] <lupine_85> maintaining stability is all well and good, especially for server, but dapper doesn't make sense for the desktop really
[12:26] <lupine_85> (my servers run dapper)
[12:26] <imbecile> mooey,  nothing
[12:26] <auTONYmous> I'd wage war over chewy Oatmeal Raisins
[12:27] <ikonia> lupine_85 but I believe the unofficial focus is on the desktop product
[12:27] <riotkittie> lupine_85: why doesnt it make sense for the desktop?
[12:27] <Soccrmastr> Im updating from Xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, Im on the third step fetching and installing the upgrades, the terminal drop down box is opened and says Ubuntu configuartion, and it is then a ist titled Configuring console-setup. then a lsit of diffrent things what do i choose?
[12:27] <mooey> imbecile, thats correct then. it should do nothing in the terminal but put an icon in your system tray
[12:27] <imbecile> auTONYmous,  i already did that
[12:27] <lupine_85> because users generally want new :p
[12:27] <mooey> Soccrmastr, what are the options?
[12:27] <imbecile> mooey,  how do i do that?
[12:27] <ikonia> lupine_85 I find morons normally want new - users want stability
[12:27] <Mikey> i always get quezzy when its asking me to format partitions :(
[12:27] <mooey> imbecile, look next to the clock. the network manager icon will be there.
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr: yeah, what are the options?
[12:28] <riotkittie> yea. give me reliability over freshness any day
[12:28] <ikonia> lupine_85 thats not to say people with brains don't mind experimenting, or maintaining their own systems
[12:28] <Flannel> lupine_85: desktop -- think enterprise, they don't care about using the newest stuff, they want stability
[12:28] <Soccrmastr> there are a BUNCh of option, lemme name a few:
[12:28] <auTONYmous> ikonia: some users want "add this <insert desired feature here>"...which breeds instability
[12:28] <mooey> Soccrmastr, you can always pastebin the console :}
[12:28] <ikonia> totally understand what lupins saying though
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr: why not just take a screenshot or paste it?
[12:28] <blanky> !paste | Soccrmastr
[12:28] <ubotu> Soccrmastr: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[12:28] <lupine_85> mm, perhaps. IME, "linux NEW" == "better", not just "new"
[12:28] <aN1> help im using the alternative install cd parted complain the attempt to mount a file system with type vfatin scsi3 partition #3 at /xp+edgy failed
[12:28] <imbecile> mooey,  i see the network connection icon
[12:28] <blanky> Soccrmastr:  paste what the console says into the pastebin
[12:28] <Soccrmastr> ok
[12:28] <ikonia> auTONYmous most people who want X feature in a sensible way are on the ball to maintain it themselves, its the morons who jump in "I want xgl !!!!"
[12:29] <ikonia> lupine_85 nahhhh
[12:29] <BULLE> hi, where can i get hold of the bcm43xx firmware cutter application, for ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:29] <mooey> imbecile, if you right click it and click about it should say network manager applet
[12:29] <ikonia> lupine_85 look at the 2.6.16 kernel
[12:29] <ikonia> 34 point releases
[12:29] <ikonia> becasuse it was a mess in the end
[12:29] <imbecile> mooey,  it doesnt though
[12:29] <blanky> ikonia: why are they morons? If they want Xgl then let them have it
[12:29] <mooey> imbecile, im not sure then, sorry :-(
[12:29] <riotkittie> i can live without xgl. then again, with an 8MB gfx card, i sorta kinda have to ;p
[12:29] <lupine_85> never touched 2.6.16 :p
[12:30] <imbecile> mooey,  thanks anyways
[12:30] <lupine_85> 2.6.12->.15->.17->.20
[12:30] <ikonia> blanky I was using that as example - I want application X.1 because its newer
[12:30] <blanky> ikonia: ah :)
[12:30] <auTONYmous> ikonia: hmm...I don't know how to take that comment, except that I want AIGLX in the binary drivers...
[12:30] <lupine_85> and when you look at, for instance, wireless support in dapper vs. wireless support in edgy...
[12:30] <imbecile> i think i may have to reformat for the third time this week :(
[12:30] <ikonia> blanky xgl is the most common "I want" question, perhaps a bad example
[12:30] <riotkittie> imbecile: why ??
[12:30] <variant> lupine_85: aiglx is part of the xorg server
[12:30] <BULLE> lupine_85: wireless support, now we are talking!
[12:30] <ikonia> auTONYmous it was a bad example
[12:30] <lupine_85> variant: well, yes
[12:30] <ikonia> lupine_85 much better in dapper
[12:30] <lupine_85> ?
[12:30] <lupine_85> xorg-air?
[12:31] <ikonia> no wireless support
[12:31] <BULLE> lupine_85: im looking for the broadcom firmware cutter, for the bcm43xx driver
[12:31] <lupine_85> lol
[12:31] <imbecile> riotkittie,  i cannot get nm-applet running no matter what.. ive changed settings and rebooted 30 times
[12:31] <lupine_85> BULLE. I have illegal firmware somewhere... hang on
[12:31] <riotkittie> wireless has gone downhill in edgy?
[12:31] <ikonia> riotkittie not quite, more choice but less stable
[12:31] <riotkittie> 38 times? youre counting? :P
[12:31] <ikonia> so depends on your point of view
[12:32] <lupine_85> BULLE: http://www.lupine.me.uk/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware.tar.gz
[12:32] <lupine_85> will do the trick for you
[12:32] <BULLE> lupine_85: thanks!
[12:32] <riotkittie> ah. i already have one distro with wireless problems. dont need two ;p
[12:32] <auTONYmous> wireless card vendor support varies from "works perfectly" to "won't work at all no matter what you do"
[12:32] <imbecile> riotkittie,  no i said 30 but it has actually been more :(
[12:32] <ikonia> ahhh lupine_85 a uk user. Plesure to meet you
[12:32] <lupine_85> otherwise, the firmware cutter is in universe; a search for fwcutter will bring it up
[12:32] <variant> BULLE: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1105667
[12:32] <lupine_85> :)
[12:32] <ikonia> auTONYmous thats very true
[12:32] <riotkittie> i suppose its not my other distro with wireless problems but my lack of know-how tho
[12:32] <riotkittie> imbecile: hold a sec
[12:32] <lupine_85> seriously, /all/ wireless support is better in edgy
[12:32] <Mikey> imbecile: i know whats wrong, you restarted too many times =P
[12:33] <lupine_85> broadcom, atheros, ralink (especially ralink)...
[12:33] <variant> riotkittie: feisty should have much improved wifi support
[12:33] <ikonia> lupine_85 I disagree, but I guess with most things it depends what your using
[12:33] <imbecile> Mikey,  probably hehe its driving me nuts
[12:33] <BULLE> variant: well, that is for ndiswrapper, i prefer to use the in kernel bc43xx driver
[12:33] <aN1>  help im using the alternative install cd parted complain the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in scsi3 partition #3 at /xp+edgy failed
[12:34] <auTONYmous> ndiswrapper just seems evil to me for some reason
[12:34] <variant> BULLE: sorry, i didn't really look at the link :)
[12:34] <ikonia> aN1 ignore it - mount it later
[12:34] <kane77> lupine_85, I had no trouble with ralink.. (that's why I'm using ubuntu now... I was looking for the right distro and in no other my wificard worked... only in ubuntu...)
[12:34] <ikonia> also look at the moount point name
[12:34] <BULLE> auTONYmous: to me aswell, but if its the only solution
[12:34] <ikonia> remove the +
[12:34] <Mikey> imbecile: i hope that one restart it will all start working, and youll clock up loads of days uptime ;)
[12:34] <imbecile> hehe this is not the day to quit smoking
[12:34] <BULLE> kane77: ralink are nice though, they provide gpl licenced source code for their drivers
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> w/e I couldnt get it to copy so i wrote it out
[12:34] <aN1> ikonia i am just creating it rite now itz unpartitioned
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/
[12:34] <riotkittie> imbecile: hahahahahahaha
[12:34] <variant> aN1: try not to use +- type charachters in file names
[12:34] <Soccrmastr> thats the whole lsit in order
[12:34] <belkin> for a better performance what Virtual Machine would be better to install, win4Lin or vmware ? anyone of them allows me to play windows games ?
[12:35] <ikonia> aN1 unwise to do so at install time
[12:35] <aN1> variant ok i tried with unsorteddl before it still fail
[12:35] <lupine_85> BULLE: yep, and it demonstrates exactly how badly vendors write drivers :p
[12:35] <auTONYmous> belkin: neither? depends on the game
[12:35] <lupine_85> belkin: neither will
[12:35] <lupine_85> you probably want wine or cedega
[12:35] <belkin> lupine_85 why not ?
[12:35] <variant> belkin: you wont be playing games in a virtualised environment (not 3d games anyway)
[12:35] <aN1> ikonia ok so i should leave it unpartitoned and do it later?
[12:35] <lupine_85> no 3D acceleration...
[12:35] <ikonia> yup
[12:35] <DeathFox> in the xserver config is NV nvidia?
[12:35] <auTONYmous> belkin: Solitair, yeah, go for it...Unreal Tournament? Install XP and forget Linux
[12:35] <ikonia> and remove the + from the mount point name
[12:35] <aN1> ikonia ok thx
[12:35] <Soccrmastr> blanky: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ thats the lsit I wrote it out exactly in order
[12:35] <lupine_85> DeathFox: the non-3D Free nVidia driver
[12:35] <belkin> auTONYmous ok
[12:35] <variant> auTONYmous: there is a native unreal tournament linux client
[12:35] <lupine_85> nvidia is the binary nvidia driver
[12:35] <DeathFox> which one is normal
[12:35] <DeathFox> ?
[12:36] <auTONYmous> IDK
[12:36] <LjL> yipe, ok, i googled. "Cittaslow, which is Italian for "slow city" or "slow town" is an international network of towns." <- makes no sense. it is not "italian", it's a compound made by a badly-spelled italian *and* a totally english word
[12:36] <auTONYmous> *shrug*
[12:36] <ikonia> DeathFox define normal
[12:36] <DeathFox> sigh
[12:36] <DeathFox> a normal nvidia geforce card 1
[12:36] <Soccrmastr> mooey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ there is the list i wrote it out
[12:36] <riotkittie> oh well. i am feeling masochistic. i think i'll go read some HOW-TOs :P
[12:36] <lupine_85> auTONYmous: Unreal Tournament for winxp works in cedega
[12:36] <auTONYmous> lupine_85: UT or UT2004?
[12:36] <kane77> why there arent fortune mods? (at least not as many...)
[12:36] <blanky> Soccrmastr: hold on
[12:36] <DeathFox> not non 3d
[12:36] <variant> lupine_85: there is a linux NATIVE client
[12:36] <lupine_85> DeathFox: do you want 3D graphics?
[12:36] <DeathFox> ya
[12:36] <aN1> oh one more thing putting ubuntu on logical partition is ok rite?
[12:36] <belkin> variant fair enough then thanks
[12:36] <lupine_85> variant: mm, but you have to pay again for it, right?
[12:36] <DeathFox> i installed my driver
[12:36] <variant> lupine_85: no
[12:36] <DeathFox> im just trying to configure the thing
[12:36] <lupine_85> DeathFox: then "nvidia"
[12:37] <blanky> Soccrmastr: what does this have to do with?
[12:37] <DeathFox> its not listed
[12:37] <blanky> does the console say?
[12:37] <blanky> or does it just give you the options
[12:37] <variant> lupine_85: just download the linux bin and use the windows cd
[12:37] <lupine_85> variant: ooh, they did an Atari?
[12:37] <lupine_85> coolio
[12:37] <Tenris> Hi, when I try to start and install ubuntu ( with desktop iso ), I have PCI : Error while updating region
[12:37] <imbecile> ok you guys i think im gonna reformat.. lets have a vote.... dapper or edgy?
[12:37] <h3xis> variant, there is a linux sh on the DVD/CD
[12:37] <lupine_85> edgy :D
[12:37] <kane77> dapper
[12:37] <auTONYmous> edgy +
[12:37] <kane77> :D
[12:37] <imbecile> lol
[12:37] <mnoir> imbecile: 6.06
[12:37] <variant> h3xis: oh yeah, on cd3 or somthing on ut2003/4/5/5/6
[12:37] <jrib> Tenris: if you don't want to upgrade for a long time, dapper, otherwise edgy
[12:37] <lupine_85> h3xis: how is dependency hell going with it?
[12:37] <aN1> imbecile i had to reformat yeasterday cuz i messed up gparted
[12:37] <Soccrmastr> blank: its like blue background, the top says in yellow Ubuntu Configuartion. then theres a gray box in the middle with a list that says inr ed Configuring console-setup, then underneath encoding the consoe: then that list
[12:37] <h3xis> lupine_85, what?
[12:37] <Soccrmastr> then I can choose either OK or cancel
[12:38] <lupine_85> e.g. try to play savage linux client in dapper... or edgy
[12:38] <jrib> Tenris: wrong person, sorry :/
[12:38] <Soccrmastr> savage owns
[12:38] <Tenris> jrib> oki
[12:38] <DeathFox> lupine_85 nvidia isent in my list
[12:38] <jrib> imbecile: if you don't want to upgrade for a long time, dapper, otherwise edgy
[12:38] <lupine_85> it's binary-only, so depends on ancient binary library versions
[12:38] <h3xis> lupine_85, i didnt have any dependency problems with ut
[12:38] <Tenris> Someone has a solution ?
[12:38] <lupine_85> DeathFox: then install it
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia, ubuntu is ok being on a logical partion rite?
[12:38] <lupine_85> h3xis: cool
[12:38] <h3xis> kane77, hey, how's the wireless situation
[12:38] <ikonia> aN1 yes its fine
[12:38] <DeathFox> i installed the driver for my card... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia hehe thx again
[12:38] <compsman> i need help with wine
[12:38] <DeathFox> isent that it?
[12:38] <aN1> ikonia yeah cuz xp is jacking up on a logical
[12:39] <kane77> h3xis, I'm going to buy router tomorow
[12:39] <aN1> ikonia just wondering thx : )
[12:39] <imbecile> jrib,  i cant keep it working for over a week anyways ;P
[12:39] <auTONYmous> compsman: Alcoholics Anonymous can helop
[12:39] <ikonia> DeathFox https://wiki.ubuntu.com - search for nvidia for instructions
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, awesome. make sure it's NOT a version 7
[12:39] <DeathFox> sigh
[12:39] <variant> lots of linux games in 2007 me thinks
[12:39] <kane77> h3xis, version of what?
[12:39] <compsman> i have it working
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, the router
[12:39] <ikonia> aN1 xp will only be the first partition on the primary disk - nothing else, nothing to do with it being logical
[12:39] <Soccrmastr> blanky: did you get my last message??
[12:39] <lupine_85> nwn2 hopefully
[12:39] <compsman> but my games wont work online
[12:39] <blanky> Soccrmastr: the paste?
[12:39] <variant> lupine_85: noep :/
[12:39] <h3xis> kane77, youre buying a wrt54g right?
[12:40] <Soccrmastr> blanky: its like blue background, the top says in yellow Ubuntu Configuartion. then theres a gray box in the middle with a list that says inr ed Configuring console-setup, then underneath encoding the consoe: then that list
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis, yes
[12:40] <blanky> Soccrmastr: okay hold on
[12:40] <blanky> Soccrmastr: is there one that's selected by default?
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis,
[12:40] <kane77> h3xis, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/default.asp?cls=stoitem&stiid=8347
[12:40] <variant> lupine_85: it uses directX not openGL
[12:40] <variant> lupine_85: so no linux native clent
[12:40] <lupine_85> mm, right now
[12:41] <h3xis> kane77, that's even better! it's the L :D
[12:41] <Soccrmastr> blanky: hmm well I alrede moved through the lsit so not sure now 0.o LOL should I restart?
[12:41] <h3xis> kane77, okay nevermind then about versions :P
[12:41] <kane77> h3xis, going for this one... (dont know if there's version stated)
[12:41] <lupine_85> last I heard they were waiting for OpenGL 2.0 to stabilise
[12:41] <blanky> Soccrmastr: do you vaguely remember?
[12:41] <stev1> getting some problems accessing the ubuntu update servers using apt-get update - messages like "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'" - please does anyone know why? (er.... or is it just me...?)
[12:41] <variant> lupine_85: last i hear there were no plans for a port
[12:41] <blanky> For Smart People: What is the encoding I should choose for the console? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/
[12:41] <lupine_85> mm, suppose we'll have to wait and see
[12:41] <auTONYmous> stev1: behind a proxy?
[12:41] <stev1> nope
[12:41] <kane77> h3xis, i'm going to bed...
[12:41] <blanky> Soccrmastr: U.S.A. ?
[12:41] <imbecile> k guys wish me luck, im off to reformat
[12:42] <Soccrmastr> blanky: might have been one of the KOI-R or KOI-U or ones around that not above the big ISO lsit and not at the bottom
[12:42] <h3xis> kane77, alright
[12:42] <Soccrmastr> blanky: yes USA
[12:42] <kane77> h3xis, tomorow I have to go to work and stuff...
[12:42] <h3xis> kane77, ha yeah. i go back to school
[12:42] <blanky> anyone?
[12:42] <kane77> good night everybody!
[12:42] <blanky> Guys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/882/ , what encoding should I choose if I'm in the USA?
[12:42] <auTONYmous> stev1: can you go to it in Firefox? (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:42] <imbecile> kane77,  goodnight
[12:43] <ikonia> blanky come on.......
[12:43] <h3xis> blanky, i know you need utk-8
[12:43] <h3xis> blanky, utf-8*
[12:43] <blanky> ikonia: what?
[12:43] <vmfight> ciao
[12:43] <blanky> h3xis: ISO-8859-8 ?
[12:43] <ikonia> just use utf-8
[12:43] <blanky> oh right
[12:43] <k31th> Anyon know a decent web designer ?
[12:43] <lupine_85> nvu ?
[12:43] <blanky> wow I'm so stupid I didn't see that there before
[12:43] <lupine_85> kate?
[12:43] <Soccrmastr> blanky: lol
[12:43] <blanky> Soccrmastr: UTF-8
[12:43] <aN1> ikonia yeah ur rite. xp just need to be the first one hehe thx
[12:43] <ikonia> k31th tons
[12:44] <stev1> auTONYmous: thanks - yes i can  - the argonne labs public mirror right?
[12:44] <Soccrmastr> blanky: Ok thanks lol
[12:44] <ikonia> aN1 i know this ;)
[12:44] <k31th> ikonia: ?
[12:44] <mnoir> either me or quanta plus, depending on what you mean
[12:44] <k31th> I need a site making.
[12:44] <plerk> how do I get flash 9?
[12:44] <k31th> ikonia: Are they on irc?
[12:44] <ikonia> plerk you have to download it and manually install it as no ubuntu package exists
[12:45] <ikonia> k31th nah
[12:45] <plerk> thanks. is it in automatix, etc.?
[12:45] <ikonia> k31th I think you'll need to do a google search
[12:45] <ikonia> plerk no - thats why I said its "Manual"
[12:45] <mnoir> !automatix
[12:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:46] <k31th> !worksforme
[12:46] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:46] <Soccrmastr> blanky: now like a choice list came up for codeset for your language environwemnt: default was uni1 but nothing on the list is US or English
[12:46] <stev1> auTONYmous: - ah - my fault; did something dumb with network routing - ok now - thanks for help
[12:46] <compsman> has any one try a game call trash becuse i cant get it to get online it plays smoothly in single player
[12:46] <blanky> Soccrmastr: was unil at the very top?
[12:46] <blanky> unil? what's unil?
[12:46] <auTONYmous> stev1: ok
[12:46] <Soccrmastr> blanky: no uni1 is in the middle sort of
[12:47] <Tenris> Someone would known what's the prob of this "PCI : Error while updating region" ?
[12:47] <aN1> plerk may i suggest easyubuntu
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: then use that, I guess. Sorry, not sure
[12:47] <foob> whats the command to copy an entire directory (and it all its subdirs) to another place
[12:47] <mnoir> foob
[12:47] <plerk> does installing ubuntu and then kubuntu-desktop give you the same functionality as installing kubuntu? vice-versa?
[12:47] <foob> just cp source/ dest/ ?
[12:47] <Soccrmastr> blanky: if i choose this and its wrong settings then how can I fix it?
[12:47] <ikonia> foob cp -R
[12:47] <mnoir> foob: cp  -rp src dest
[12:47] <ikonia> man this is basic
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: I'm sorry, I don't know :'(
[12:47] <blanky> Soccrmastr: what package is it installing?
[12:47] <foob> this is #ubuntu ;0
[12:47] <ikonia> thas one of the most lazy questions I've seen
[12:47] <mnoir> ikonia: sorry....
[12:47] <belkin> i need to know how will i place Configuration Editor on my ubuntu menu please
[12:48] <foob> and i still got 2 diff answers ;0
[12:48] <ikonia> mnoir no - sorry didn't mean that
[12:48] <blanky> Soccrmastr: I would figure, you can simply do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package name>"
[12:48] <ikonia> foob no you didn't
[12:48] <juano> anyone, im having this error seems like a DNS issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/883/
[12:48] <ikonia> they where bost the same
[12:48] <ikonia> both
[12:48] <foob> ok thanks
[12:48] <juano> its when i search for my windows PC in smb
[12:48] <ikonia> foob for future reference "man" is a big help
[12:48] <aN1> -r for recursive p for perserve permission
[12:48] <ikonia> foob eg: man cp
[12:48] <Soccrmastr> blanky: well I am updating xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, and the title of that list and area was ubuntu configuartion so im not sure what package exactly
[12:48] <juano> sorry for my ubuntu PC
[12:48] <blanky> Soccrmastr: sorry :(
[12:48] <Soccrmastr> blanky: maybe libc6 ?
[12:49] <Soccrmastr> blanky: ok thanks
[12:49] <plerk> does installing ubuntu and then kubuntu-desktop give you the same functionality as installing kubuntu? vice-versa?
[12:49] <blanky> Soccrmastr: why not ask? or check in the wiki
[12:49] <ikonia> plerk its just kde
[12:49] <blanky> Soccrmastr: check at wiki.ubuntu.com , search for something like 'upgrade 6.06 to 6.10'
[12:49] <mnoir> plerk: plus you will also have gnome
[12:49] <aN1> ikonia is there a way to set man open with nano instead of vi?
[12:49] <DeathFox> when in configirng xserver-xor how do put a check bside the video mode u want
[12:49] <DeathFox> typo
[12:49] <ikonia> aN1 man is an application - it doesn't open in vi
[12:49] <ikonia> man IS the application
[12:49] <kanzie> Im trying to install edgy eft but gParted is not letting me proceed with my manually configured partition table, it says "No root file system".
[12:50] <boss_> hello
[12:50] <ikonia> kanzie have you configured a root file system
[12:50] <mnoir> aN1: man man for more info
[12:50] <ikonia> mnoir genius !
[12:50] <aN1> ikonia lol i always thought it calls on vi cuz they quit the same way lol stupid of me
[12:50] <ikonia> good response
[12:50] <kanzie> ikonia, yes, "/" 180gb - Partition 7 disc SATA 1 (Logical) [sda7]
[12:50] <ikonia> aN1 you can just press "q" to quit - thats not vi
[12:50] <boss_> can i get some help? I have not a loopback entry in my route table...
[12:51] <kanzie> ikonia,  Im trying to overwrite and install on an already existing Dapper Dan
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ put on e in
[12:51] <mnoir> aN1: you can set the pager for man to be another
[12:51] <boss_> what?
[12:51] <ikonia> kanzie make sure the "format" tick box is checked
[12:51] <kanzie> it is checked (I had to check it manually)
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ put a loopback entry in
[12:51] <ikonia> kanzie very strange
[12:51] <boss_> it's not possible...
[12:51] <ikonia> boss_ putting an entry in /etc/hosts is not possible ?
[12:51] <aN1> mnoir explain a little more?
[12:51] <kanzie> ikonia, very... The problem could be that I have an existing windows xp installation
[12:52] <boss_> umm
[12:52] <kanzie> ikonia, but it had no problem installing dapper
[12:52] <kanzie> for me
[12:52] <ikonia> kanzie I don't think thats related
[12:52] <ikonia> kanzie delete the partition and re-crete it
[12:52] <ikonia> create
[12:52] <kanzie> ikonia, ok
[12:52] <mnoir> aN1: at the terminal prompt, man will printout the manual page for a command.     sometimes it is useless but most of the time it is worth reading
[12:52] <boss_> ikonia
[12:52] <ikonia> boss_ yes
[12:52] <aN1> mnoir no i mean the pager part
[12:52] <boss_> can i contact you in pvt?
[12:52] <mnoir> ampsonic: man uses a pager to present screenloads
[12:53] <ikonia> boss_ no
[12:53] <kanzie> ikonia, how big sohuld I make the swap-file if I want to be able to resume the computer
[12:53] <boss_> ok
[12:53] <kanzie> ?
[12:53] <mnoir> more, less, most  are pagers
[12:53] <kanzie> ikonia, the size of the RAM or?
[12:53] <mnoir> most is the best
[12:53] <ikonia> kanzie 1+half
[12:53] <aN1> mnoir oh lol thx
[12:53] <ikonia> kanzie so you have enough for a full dump plus some
[12:53] <peacekpr> I have an xorg question for someone.  I have a samsung wide screen lcd monitor that I'd like to plug into the monitor port on my laptop.  But there will obviously be instances when I don't want to use it (i.e. traveling).  Is there some way I can put the drivers for the external wide screen monitor in the xorg.conf so that it is autodetected when it is plugged in?
[12:53] <mnoir> less is more (more or less)
[12:53] <mnoir> more is junk as far as I think
[12:53] <ikonia> peacekpr xorg 7.1.1 has auto detect built in - but it rarley works properly
[12:54] <aN1> haha lol
[12:54] <mnoir> you can pipe a manpage to nano but why bother?
[12:54] <kanzie> ikonia, so three sohuld do it with a physical RAM of 2.5 gb?
[12:54] <ikonia> kanzie perfect
[12:54] <ikonia> the rule is normally just your ram
[12:54] <ikonia> but I've found it better to have a little more
[12:54] <ikonia> from personal experience
[12:54] <juano> im having a DNS problem with my ubuntu, i can go in Windows XP PC through Samba except from windows i have to put ip number to enter here, it wont work with host name anyone know about this?
[12:54] <kanzie> ikonia, ext3 or RaiserFS (for normal workstation-use) does it matter? is ext3 better supported?
[12:55] <ikonia> kanzie for support ext3
[12:55] <ikonia> juano dns resolution of thoe host
[12:55] <mnoir> aN1: and, finally, man man really does work
[12:55] <juano> ikonia: how do i set this up?
[12:55] <aN1> mnoir i have to wait till i get my setup up
[12:55] <variant> mnoir: so does man woman
[12:55] <aN1> mnoir yesterday i messed up my entire cop
[12:55] <variant> mnoir: try it
[12:56] <aN1> ycomp
[12:56] <ikonia> juano you either need access to 2 dns server or an entry in the host file on the client
[12:56] <mnoir> variant: No manual entry for woman
[12:56] <variant> mnoir: exactly
[12:56] <kanzie> ikonia, now everything worked fine, so it is a kind of a small bug of it not flagging a root file system if it isnt created in previous step
[12:56] <PriceChild> what is the default port that cvs runs on?
[12:56] <peacekpr> ikonia, i wonder if i'm using xorg 7.1.1... at least to try to test it out
[12:56] <variant> mnoir: mwaahahaha
[12:56] <aN1> viarant haha dats a good joke
[12:56] <kanzie> ikonia, even though the user manually specifies a "/"
[12:56] <ikonia> peacekpr what version of ubunu are you using
[12:56] <mnoir> variant: how many days you been waiting to pull that?
[12:56] <ikonia> kanzie looks like a little bug
[12:57] <variant> mnoir: years*
[12:57] <peacekpr> i don't mind manually editing xorg.conf, but i do want xorg to know to use those certain drivers if it detects an external monitor
[12:57] <njero> hi all, I am trying to set JAVA_HOME and fear I may be doing something wrong... I am following a tutorial but think I have the wrong path
[12:57] <peacekpr> ikonia, edgy
[12:57] <mnoir> whatevar
[12:57] <ikonia> kanzie log it if you wan to be helpful
[12:57] <Borzen> Hay the Live CD wont run on my pc
[12:57] <kanzie> ikonia, and it will not have a problem rewriting my grub now?
[12:57] <ikonia> peacekpr yup your using 7.1.1
[12:57] <BULLE> lupine_85: thanks, i have the connection up and running now
[12:57] <aN1> Borzen did u md5sum check it?
[12:57] <aN1> cd burned ok?
[12:57] <kanzie> ikonia, sure, can you tell me where the logfiles for the gpart in installaion is located?
[12:57] <peacekpr> ikonia, do you know of a tutorial that can tell me about xorg autodetection?
[12:57] <ikonia> kanzie no idea off the top of my head
[12:57] <Borzen> Yah I have the free CD
[12:58] <ikonia> peacekpr no - as its very new and only working a little bit on some drivers
[12:58] <deathfox> how do i access other drives or partions on this pc like my windows one on the same pc
[12:58] <Borzen> It locks up at the Windowd
[12:58] <Borzen> Window
[12:58] <ikonia> deathfox just mount them
[12:58] <kanzie> ikonia, now it is installing... mmmmm.... thanks!
[12:58] <aN1> Borzen itz probabaly some graphic card problem
[12:58] <mnoir> !ntfs | deathfox
[12:58] <ubotu> deathfox: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:58] <aN1> borzen try the alternative
[12:58] <peacekpr> ikonia, and probably not working on the xorg-drivers-fglrx drivers, huh? :-P
[12:58] <njero> !java | njero
[12:58] <ubotu> njero: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:58] <ikonia> mnoir great ubot
[12:58] <ikonia> peacekpr doubtful
[12:58] <aN1> Borzen if u can't u need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <Borzen> No it runs on all of the other computers in my house, all of which have a Nvidia Video card
[12:58] <peacekpr> ikonia, the story of my life
[12:58] <mnoir> ikonia: the bot is very deep
[12:59] <Borzen> I do have a AMD X2
[12:59] <aN1> Borzen for me it freeze b/c i have to manually set the video ram size
[12:59] <Borzen> O i can try that How do i do that?
[12:59] <aN1> borzen press ctrl alt F1
[01:00] <variant> Borzen: boot it in safe graphics mode
[01:00] <ikonia> mnoir it could be - there are only 4 questions ever asked 1.) how to I get wirless working 2.) how can I use nvidia/ati 3.) how do I install flash 4.) how do I upgrade to edgy
[01:00] <Borzen> Thanks i try that after i eat
[01:00] <mnoir> iko5. how do i type cd?
[01:00] <ikonia> mnoir touche'
[01:00] <mnoir> ikonia: um what is the number for 911 again?
[01:00] <ikonia> genius
[01:01] <deathfox> that diskmounter url doesent work
[01:01] <mnoir> ik - Homer said it first
[01:01] <ikonia> deathfox yeah it does, I'm on it now
[01:01] <njero> !JAVA_HOME | njero
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JAVA_HOME - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <deathfox> i did the wget it said
[01:01] <peacekpr> ikonia, i was kinda hoping i could just add another screen section for the external monitor in front of the screen section for the laptop lcd :-)
[01:01] <ikonia> njero what do you want to know
[01:01] <deathfox> and it said error
[01:02] <ikonia> deathfox thats descritptive
[01:02] <ikonia> peacekpr you can do that, but it will cause problems when that monitor is not there
[01:02] <deathfox> he script must be downloaded before it can be used. Type the following lines. LINK IS DEAD, IF ANYONE KNOWS A NEW PATH, PLEASE INSERT.
[01:02] <njero> Well, I installed Sun SDK/JRE and want to set the JAVA_HOME env variable. I edited /etc/evironment and added it there.. but I am not sure I chose the right path
[01:02] <peacekpr> figures ;-/
[01:02] <juano_> ikonia: ok worked, except i have one little issue, seems that theyre not in the same workgroup
[01:02] <ikonia> njero java home is the root of where java is installed
[01:03] <njero> like: JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/"
[01:03] <njero> ?
[01:03] <ikonia> juano_ thats problem two
[01:03] <ikonia> njero thats the lib path
[01:03] <juano_> ikonia: no machine is able to see the workgroup
[01:03] <wadoodem> hi
[01:03] <GreySim> Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a swap file using the Edgy Desktop CD with persistence. I'm fine with having to perform manual steps every time I boot up if need be...
[01:03] <ikonia> GreySim what do you mean persistance
[01:04] <wadoodem> i need some help?
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> GreySim - yes, I did that recently
[01:04] <variant> GreySim: mkswap /dev/whatever && swapon /dev/whatever && nano -w /etc/fstab (put in line for swap here)
[01:04] <njero> ikonia: do I add "bin/" to that? or "jre/bin/"?
[01:05] <ikonia> njero find where java is and do one directory before that
[01:05] <siloe> Indo cribbio sono???
[01:05] <IntuitiveNipple> GreySim: As variant says. I but a bash script to automate things on a Flash memory card and ran that each time I booted the Live CD
[01:05] <ikonia> most scripts will do $JAVA_HOME/bin/java
[01:05] <GreySim> Thank you.
[01:05] <wadoodem> how can i regnize all the hd i have?
[01:05] <ikonia> wadoodem what do you mean
[01:06] <wadoodem> i can see my others HD and i have like 3 more  why?
[01:06] <ikonia> wadoodem they are partitions most probably
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I've been going through the instruction on how to install mythtv on the Ubuntu help site.  I have been trying to restart mysql, both as myself and as root, but I get this error message:
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> steve@00400582fa8a:~$ mysql
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> steve@00400582fa8a:~$
[01:06] <Stormx2> Does anyone know the command that would tar up a directory and output the file to stdout?
[01:06] <ikonia> Beforewisdom mysql isn't running
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> lol
[01:06] <Beforewisdom> Okay, how to do I start it? :)
[01:07] <Stormx2> !lamp
[01:07] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:07] <Stormx2> It says on that page.
[01:07] <ikonia> Stormx2 tar cvf $file $directory will put to screen
[01:07] <uncle_bill> Hello :)
[01:07] <Beforewisdom> Stormx2, was that for me?
[01:07] <wadoodem> yes but if i have a liibraary of files on the other how can see them?
[01:07] <Stormx2> ikonia: $file $directory. Explain why I need two
[01:07] <Stormx2> Beforewisdom: Yeah
[01:07] <njero> ikonia: okay, then I thiknk that is it... I set my JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/" and then I can do $JAVA_HOME/bin/java from the command line. Am I good to go or horribly confused?
[01:07] <deathfox> how do i access a windows partition from linux, i tried that one link and its not valid the wget part etc
[01:07] <GreySim> Ack, so Googling up a bit more information on how to do it with a file instead of a device, I tried doing it with a file, and I get a bunch of kernel errors. :(
[01:07] <ikonia> Stormx2 one is the file to write to - one if the directory to tar up
[01:08] <Stormx2> !windows
[01:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:08] <Stormx2> hmm
[01:08] <njero> heh
[01:08] <Stormx2> !ntfs
[01:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:08] <Stormx2> There we go
[01:08] <ikonia> njero looks ok
[01:08] <deathfox> it dont work
[01:08] <njero> okay... now to figure out my Rails problem.... thanks!
[01:08] <IntuitiveNipple> deathfox: Ubuntu usually has read-only NTFS drivers installed. All you need to do is mount the windows partitions
[01:08] <deathfox> the wget link is invalid
[01:08] <Stormx2> ikonia: I need it to write to stdout, not a file...
[01:08] <deathfox> whats the mount command?
[01:08] <deathfox> just mount /dev/sda1 ?
[01:08] <ikonia> make the file /dev/console
[01:09] <ikonia> deathfox I'm on the page now - its working fine
[01:09] <deathfox> can you read
[01:09] <ikonia> make sure you didn't put the "." at th eend
[01:09] <deathfox> i said the wget link
[01:09] <deathfox> on the tutorial
[01:09] <deathfox> does not work
[01:09] <Mikey> is there a command line msn / im software ? and is it available on apt-get?
[01:09] <Stormx2> deathfox: Explain the command you are trying, and what error you are receiving
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: yeah
[01:09] <ikonia> checking
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: apt-cache search msn
[01:09] <variant> Mikey: therea re a few
[01:09] <GreySim> Mikey: naim does at least AIM and IRC, IIRC. Maybe others.
[01:10] <deathfox> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:10] <deathfox>    <-- is an invalid url
[01:10] <ikonia> yup the link is dead
[01:10] <ikonia> there is a big message about it
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: No, thats a valid URL
[01:10] <Mikey> cool, this variant
[01:10] <Mikey> thx*
[01:10] <deathfox> anyone know anthor way that wget url dont work
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: its probably a 404 tho...
[01:10] <mnoir> Stormx2: tar - filestotar goes to stdout
[01:10] <ikonia> deathfox no idea
[01:10] <Stormx2> deathfox: So looks like its unavailable. Just scroll down
[01:11] <deathfox> ya i dont understand the stuff below i read it 3 times
[01:11] <deathfox> im new
[01:11] <mnoir> Stormx2: sorry -> tar -cvf - filestotar
[01:11] <ikonia> keep reading
[01:11] <ikonia> it will sync in
[01:11] <ikonia> or do you have a specific question
[01:11] <Mikey> ok, is there an online search of the apt-get repositories, since my ubuntu is still installing
[01:11] <deathfox> i just wanna pull files from my windows parition
[01:11] <deathfox> is all
[01:11] <deathfox> nothen fancy
[01:11] <variant> Mikey: open a terminal on the live cd and do it
[01:11] <ikonia> deathfox so you don't need samba
[01:11] <variant> Mikey: the live cd comes with apt-get
[01:12] <ikonia> just mount them using read only ntfs
[01:12] <Mikey> cant load live cd, frezzes :(
[01:12] <deathfox> no the windows parition is on this pc
[01:12] <deathfox> -_-
[01:12] <ikonia> Mikey so there is no way of doing it then
[01:12] <variant> deathfox: so do mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/
[01:12] <variant> deathfox: then do ls /mnt and there you go
[01:12] <ikonia> deathfox yes, just mount it then - you don't need samba
[01:12] <Mikey> ok no worries, thx ikonia and variant
[01:13] <ikonia> feeding time
[01:13] <deathfox> ya it isent letting me mount iv tried hmmz
[01:13] <deathfox> let me try agian
[01:14] <deathfox> /dev/sda1               1       10469    84092211    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:14] <deathfox> is what i need to mount i tried the mount /dev/sda1/
[01:14] <deathfox> it dident work
[01:15] <mnoir> deathfox: type your mount command here
[01:15] <variant> deathfox: you need to add a place to mount it to the command
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: mount /dev/whatever wont work
[01:16] <deathfox> oh
[01:16] <deathfox> x_x
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: you need somthing like mount /dev/whatever /mnt/
[01:16] <deathfox> so /deathfox/home/
[01:16] <deathfox> would work
[01:16] <variant> deathfox: if you put a line in fstab about the partition then you can do mount /dev/whatever on its own (or mount /mnt/mountpoint)
[01:17] <mnoir> deathfox: i suggest you add a directory to /mnt called cdrive or something like that
[01:17] <variant> deathfox: you mean /home/deathfox? thats a bad idea, it will mount it over your home directory
[01:17] <deathfox> lol im confused  :p
[01:17] <Przemcio78> is it an international uibuntu channel or are some nationalities not welcome here?
[01:17] <deathfox> i just wanna sort somethen to drag files to this partition
[01:17] <variant> Przemcio78: all nationalities are welcome, speaking english
[01:18] <variant> Przemcio78: there are localised ubuntu channels
[01:18] <mnoir> Przemcio78: english only, so other channels are available for other languages
[01:18] <mnoir> bbfn
[01:18] <variant> ..
[01:18] <deathfox> variant,  so what should i mount to  or what
[01:19] <deathfox> i got confused
[01:19] <deathfox> lol
[01:19] <variant> deathfox: ifyou just want to mount it once do: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:19] <neuro_> Przemcio78: you are of course welcome here, but trolling like you just did in #ubuntu-uk is not appropriate behaviour
[01:19] <neuro_> Przemcio78: please bear this in mind
[01:19] <variant> deathfox: if you want to do something permanent do: mkdir /media/windows and add a line to /etc/fstab that references the new drive
[01:20] <noys__> Hi all
[01:20] <deathfox> ya i just started ubuntu today i dont know how to edit all that
[01:20] <Przemcio78> neuro_, why did you join arch channel?
[01:21] <neuro_> Przemcio78: to remind you not to troll
[01:21] <jewbile1> Can anyone suggest an alternative to Totem Movie Player?
[01:21] <neuro_> just as you came back into #ubuntu-uk and told us to go procreate
[01:21] <Przemcio78> neuro_, you're a troll
[01:21] <variant> deathfox: to edit a file you can use gedit (friendly gui). the fstab file requires root privilages so do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" but be _exceptionaly careful_ not to mess up the file or your system will probably not boot
[01:21] <jewbile1> #ubuntu-va
[01:21] <jewbile1> woops
[01:21] <deathfox> i was just wanting to get some mp3s out of my other drive
[01:21] <jewbile1> lol
[01:22] <noys__> do anyone know what librarys needs for mp3, divix, xvid playback by xmms and mplayer (sorry for dummy quiestion, i'm too new to linux)
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> Hi.  I am trying to figure out how to start mysql on Unbuntu using this URL and this command :  "mysql -u root -p" but I am getting an error message that prompted me to come here to get the afforementioned url:
[01:22] <njero> ikonia: got my problems all fixed now thanks again!
[01:22] <variant> jewbile1: i use mplayer
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> root@00400582fa8a:~# mysql -u root -p
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> Enter password:
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[01:22] <Beforewisdom> root@00400582fa8a:~#
[01:22] <variant> deathfox: so, you have your options
[01:22] <jewbile1> variant: ok, thanks
[01:22] <deathfox> well i still dont understand how to get into the parition temp to just drag files out
[01:22] <deathfox> but thanks for your time
[01:22] <variant> jewbile1: videolan (vlc) is excellent also
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: and open /mnt in your filemanager (nautilus)
[01:23] <variant> deathfox: then you can drag and drop
[01:23] <son_razumah> Hi all
[01:23] <son_razumah> do anyone know what librarys needs for mp3, divix, xvid playback by xmms and mplayer (sorry for dummy quiestion, i'm too new to linux)
[01:23] <LjL> Ubotu, tell son_razumah about mpe | son_razumah, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:23] <variant> !codecs | son_razumah
[01:23] <ubotu> son_razumah: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:23] <adaptr> !multimedia
[01:23] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:23] <LjL> nggggggg
[01:23] <neuro_> Beforewisdom: mysql is the command to administer MySQL; have you done sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:23] <deathfox> ty
[01:24] <Beforewisdom> neuro_, thanks that was what I was looking for when someone sent me off to the lamp page
[01:24] <neuro_> :)
[01:24] <son_razumah> !ntfs
[01:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:24] <deathfox> variant,  it wont let me open says permission denied
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> neuro_  "no such file or directory"
[01:25] <neuro_> Beforewisdom: have you installed the mysql-server package?
[01:25] <neuro_> sounds like you've only installed the client
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> nope, I just have what came with the ubuntu install
[01:25] <Beforewisdom> let me install that, thanks
[01:26] <aN1> deathfox did u umask=000
[01:26] <deathfox> you will confuse me
[01:26] <deathfox> im just trying to get in a mnt folder
[01:26] <deathfox> i just mounted /dev/sda1
[01:26] <deathfox> i wanna get it in to drag files out
[01:27] <deathfox> it said permission denied to go in
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: where did you mount it?
[01:27] <variant> aN1: he really doesnt need to do that
[01:27] <pianoboy3333> What is postscript/a postscript file -- is it a pdf?
[01:27] <variant> pianoboy3333: kinda
[01:27] <neuro_> a pdf is a product from a ps file
[01:27] <deathfox> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:27] <neuro_> it's a printer language
[01:27] <deathfox> in my terminal
[01:27] <pianoboy3333> oh
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: so open nautilus and browse to /mnt
[01:27] <deathfox> i cant
[01:27] <variant> deathfox: why?
[01:27] <deathfox> it says permission denied
[01:27] <adaptr> neuro_: pdf has nothing to do with printing
[01:28] <Silver_Seagull> OK, woot- solved the xserver problem (how, I don't know- but I did).  I now type to you from the LiveCD, where further mysteries plague me- like an installer that sits at 0% and never accesses the CD after I click install.
[01:28] <variant> deathfox: type sudo nautilus
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: i didn't say it did
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: ah, context; pdf is a product of ps; ps is a printer language
[01:28] <Flannel> variant, deathfox, gksudo nautilus
[01:28] <deathfox> ok
[01:28] <deathfox> thank you
[01:28] <deathfox> i got it
[01:28] <neuro_> pianoboy3333: you should be able to open ps files directly in evince iirc
[01:28] <adaptr> neuro_: well, you're half-implying it with "is a product of ps", which is plain nonsense
[01:28] <variant> Flannel: he is already in the terminal so that makes little difference
[01:28] <deathfox> whats gksudo
[01:28] <deathfox> do?
[01:28] <Flannel> variant: no, it makes all the difference.
[01:28] <neuro_> adaptr: man ps2pdf :)
[01:28] <variant> deathfox: its just a graphical "sudo" command
[01:29] <adaptr> neuro_: man www.adobe.com ?
[01:29] <variant> Flannel: whatever
[01:29] <neuro_> adaptr: the smiley meant it was a joke; i was massively oversimplifying for brevity's sake
[01:29] <Flannel> variant: gksudo and sudo set up the environments for the programs differently.  gksudo is used for graphical programs.  It's NOT a "whatever"
[01:29] <adaptr> neuro_: you're saying that every pdf file is a product of a ps source
[01:29] <adaptr> well then please don;t brevify :)
[01:29] <pianoboy3333> deathfox: it does super special crap
[01:30] <neuro_> adaptr: ok then, pdf is *one possible product* of a ps file :)
[01:30] <deathfox> variant,  now i got a problem i cant drag and drop its not working :p
[01:30] <adaptr> and ps is one possible source
[01:30] <variant> Flannel: it acheives the same result and was perfectly acceptable for what we were doing so jump of your high horse
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: what happens
[01:30] <Mikey> shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just shhhhhhh
[01:30] <deathfox> nothen
[01:30] <deathfox> if i drag it to the other folder
[01:30] <deathfox> nothen happens
[01:30] <neuro_> adaptr: yes, ps is one possible source, i didn't mean to imply otherwise
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: your sure about htat?
[01:30] <Flannel> variant: no, they don't achieve the same result.  It can be detrimental running graphical programs with sudo.
[01:30] <deathfox> yes sir
[01:30] <variant> deathfox: did you look in the other folder?
[01:30] <deathfox> :p
[01:30] <deathfox> yes
[01:31] <LjL> adaptr, neuro_: the PDF language was certainly *derived* from the PostScript language, which was intended as a language that printers would understand natively.
[01:31] <variant> Flannel: please explain exactly what you mean
[01:31] <adaptr> neuro_: glad we've got that worked out :) now let's go back to doing useful stuff
[01:31] <neuro_> adaptr: hurrah :)
[01:31] <pianoboy3333> deathfox: you use it for launching graphical programs as root, but make sure that if you give arguments to the program, that you include quotes, for example, `gksudo update-manager` will do fine, but if you want to upgrade to fiesty/edgy, you'll have to do `gksudo "update-manager -c -d"`
[01:31] <neuro_> LjL: i know, cheers :)
[01:31] <adaptr> LjL: PS, yes - not PDF, as it never succeeded
[01:31] <son_razumah> i 've mounted ntfs partitions but i can access they only from root. How to add permissions to normal user?
[01:31] <Flannel> variant: the environmnt that the programs run in is setup differently between sudo and gksudo, the home directory in particular.
[01:31] <jrib> !ntfs | son_razumah
[01:31] <ubotu> son_razumah: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:31] <NixNewb> I want to control my computer with vnc but the vnc client that came with ubuntu won't start up until after I log in
[01:31] <deathfox> variant,  ya i tried to open my home folder and drag a file into it and it wont move
[01:31] <jinx099> Flannel: Why is it bad to run graphical apps with sudo?
[01:31] <jrib> son_razumah: see the notes about using umask on that wiki page
[01:32] <son_razumah> !ntfs-3g
[01:32] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:32] <adaptr> NixNewb: use a remote X desktop then
[01:32] <variant> deathfox: right click/copy and paste it
[01:32] <deathfox> dont work
[01:32] <deathfox> i just tried
[01:32] <Graxe> Hi, I got an error when I tried to boot a flash drive with ubuntu on it in persistent mode. Could someone see if they know what it means? It said >>> [17179702.29200]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 357586 <<<
[01:32] <Flannel> jinx099: because config files get saved incorrectly
[01:32] <variant> deathfox: sorry, i dont know what your doing wrong
[01:32] <jrib> Seveas: comments should differ more from url imo
[01:32] <jinx099> Flannel: So gksu fixes this?
[01:32] <jrib> wrong window
[01:33] <variant> !gksudo
[01:33] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:33] <Flannel> jinx099: right, gksu or gksudo fix it.
[01:33] <LjL> adaptr: no, but if by "a product of PS" as in "a language/format derived/inspired from PS", then it's true (with Wikipedia saying:  "PDF is primarily the combination of three (with the possibility of a fourth) technologies:  1) a sub-set of the PostScript page description programming language, for generating the layout and graphics,"
[01:33] <Flannel> jinx099: sudo works fine for non graphical programs, gksudo works fine for graphical programs
[01:33] <jinx099> Flannel: Thanks for the clarification
[01:33] <variant> I would like to se an example of the way in which it sets up the environment
[01:33] <deathfox> how can i do anything wrong i got the root nat up and then a normal nat up trying to drag a file from the root 1 to normal 1
[01:34] <variant> deathfox: yeah, that should work
[01:34] <deathfox> ok variant  it copys if i try to move it to my root
[01:34] <deathfox> but not the other
[01:34] <deathfox> ya but i want files in my user account
[01:34] <adaptr> LjL: that's semantic wibble - from any context, that was obviously not the topic of the discussion - they were talking about a PDF *document* being the product of a PS source document
[01:34] <deathfox> not root
[01:34] <variant> deathfox: use the terminal, cp /mnt/path/to/files* /path/to/where/you/wanttoput/them
[01:34] <neuro_> adaptr: cheers, saves me from thinking how to type what you just typed :)
[01:35] <LjL> adaptr: you're probably correct, i wasn't following from the beginning, but just from the "product of PS" part
[01:35] <Silver_Seagull> Anyone know why the HDD installer would run fine until it was time to perform, then sit at 0%, not access CD, then quit w/o error?
[01:35] <adaptr> LjL: and while obviously possible, there's nothing "must be" about it
[01:35] <adaptr> LjL: np
[01:35] <MasterShrek> Silver_Seagull are u using 6.06 or 6.10?
[01:35] <neuro_> LjL: i was massively oversimplifying the relationship between the two formats, soz :)
[01:35] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: what's a HDD installer ?
[01:35] <deathfox> variant,  how do i get in my mnt folder from terminal it says permission denied agian
[01:36] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: The installer for Ubuntu on the LiveCD
[01:36] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: are you trying to install from a USB cdrom drive ?
[01:36] <adaptr> or TO a USB HD ?
[01:36] <variant> deathfox: eeeeeeeee
[01:36] <deathfox> x_0
[01:36] <variant> deathfox: do sudo chown -R deathfox:deathfox /mnt
[01:36] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: No, from a LiveCD to a pre-partitioned SATA HDD.  It recognized and accepted the partitions and went into "Installing"
[01:36] <riotkittie> i wonder if i can eventually install to an external drive. man. lack of disk space will be the death of me
[01:37] <Flannel> variant: using sudo can sometimes cause you to no longer be able to login, because the owner has changed on some config files (ICEauthority or Xauthority).
[01:37] <deathfox> what does that do
[01:37] <ego1st> hi all
[01:37] <deathfox> variant,
[01:37] <NixNewb> i'm running ubutnu 6.03 whats the easiest way to upgrade it?
[01:37] <cstyve2> Hi everyone...I gotta problem and would really appreciate some help.....
[01:37] <variant> deathfox: changes the owner of the files to your user instead of root
[01:37] <Flannel> variant, deathfox, that's probably not wise.
[01:37] <Beforewisdom> anyone here familar with xdtv?
[01:37] <variant> deathfox: actualy, it changes /mnt too which is not actualy the best of ideas but i am gettin tired
[01:38] <riotkittie> cstyve2: what's yoru problem?
[01:38] <cstyve2> I'm somewhat of a newbie
[01:38] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: However it sat at "0%" in the progress bar, never spun up the CD and then quit about 3 mins later w/o any error given
[01:38] <deathfox> bah im being terminal flooded :/
[01:38] <Thug-N-Me> how do i find out what type of fyle system does one partition have ?
[01:38] <variant> Flannel: yeah yeah i know. i'm gettin bored of this now though :)
[01:38] <cstyve2> well....I was playing around with the login options under administration and I think I have turned on a remote login feature
[01:38] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: is that partition mounted?
[01:38] <Flannel> variant: yeah, except you just destroyed whatever he had mounted.
[01:38] <variant> Flannel: huh?
[01:38] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: pre-partitioning.. iiieew, bad call
[01:38] <cstyve2> When I start Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) I get a window that lists Ubuntu servers and asks me to connect
[01:38] <Flannel> variant: recursive chown?
[01:39] <cstyve2> I click on my machine listed and I get the Ubuntu login screen
[01:39] <Thug-N-Me> riotkittie yes
[01:39] <variant> Flannel: whats wrong with that exactly?
[01:39] <riotkittie> pre-partitioning is bad?
[01:39] <Graxe> *Uh* Hi, can I get some help again?
[01:39] <MasterShrek> whats up Graxe ?
[01:39] <cstyve2> After testing this out I clicked on shutdown and instead of shutting down I was returned to the "connect" window
[01:39] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: What's the issue?  ext3, swap- installer formatted and I assigned appropriate mounts ( / & swap)
[01:39] <adaptr> NixNewb: gksudo update-manager -c, or sudo apt-get distupgrade
[01:39] <Flannel> variant: um, it's bad for the same reasons chowning your root recursively 777 is bad.
[01:39] <cstyve2> now my machine is not listed anymore
[01:39] <dogmeat> how can i get my eth0 interface online? apparently there's a driver needed for pcmcia type 1 cards that isnt loaded. the pcmcia card has a nic card.
[01:39] <jsewell> is there a way to have the gnome xchat client not show joins and parts?  I checked prefs, nothing found...
[01:40] <Flannel> er, chmodding, even.
[01:40] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: well, nothing pertinent, it;s just - how did you partition them ?
[01:40] <variant> Flannel: not really, 777 is read write execute for anyone and everyone so its not the same at all
[01:40] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: I want to dual boot with my Windows XPP install- I used Partition Magic 8.
[01:40] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: try "sudo fdisk -l" in a term
[01:40] <kanzie> Im trying to share a directory with files using samba but when I then try to connect to the share I can see it (browsing) but get "The folder contents could not be displayed" "sharename could not be found, maybe it has been deleted"
[01:40] <Graxe> MasterShrek: I got an error trying to start ubuntu off a usb drive and I wasn't sure what it meant, I followed Flannel's advice earlier and made sure I had all the files that the cd needed but it still isn't working for some reason, I can boot in live cd mode but not persistent mode.
[01:41] <Flannel> variant: it's essentially the same, you've destroyed whatever permissions where there (and probably there for a reason), and they're impossible to put back without manually doing everything.
[01:41] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: well, then - I rest my case :) PM is possibly one of the most dangerous pieces of sh*te ever to come out of norton's *ss
[01:41] <Thug-N-Me> riotkittie that will not show me the type of the file system ;))
[01:41] <variant> Flannel: it is a windows partition
[01:41] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: save yourself the trouble and let Ubuntu do the dirty for you - it uses gparted, which fails in like.. never
[01:41] <MasterShrek> Graxe sorry dont know anything about booting off a usb drive, did u install to your usb drive?
[01:41] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: I fail to understand why this would cause the installer to hang after formatting the partitions
[01:41] <riotkittie> Thug-N-Me: it shows me what my file systems are. perhaps i just have a super duper special version of fdisk
[01:41] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: just type mount
[01:41] <Flannel> variant: doesn't matter.  the fix he needed was options with the mount command, not chowning after the fact.
[01:42] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: did you get your music recovered?
[01:42] <kanzie> anyone know Samba here?
[01:42] <variant> Flannel: whatever man, get a grip
[01:42] <jughead> jsewell, I have a setting under "advanced" called text events
[01:42] <riotkittie> did you even try it?
[01:42] <variant> Flannel: you sound like a wikipedian
[01:42] <dnite> anyone know of a way to remap the sleep button to something else on my keyboard?? every time i accidentally press it, the computer goes to sleep and doesn't wake up. i don't need this button.
[01:42] <aN1> How do i show a mounted drive automatically on Desktop?
[01:42] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: as do I.. but that's not really important, is it ? I have seen so many installations totally wrecked by PM that it's not even funny anymore, to whomever it happens
[01:42] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja didnt tryed anymore ... some guys told me that i can forget about it formating a ext3 partition its bad :)
[01:42] <Flannel> variant: just stop giving bad advice, and no one here will have issue with what you're recommending
[01:42] <MasterShrek> it should go there by default aN1
[01:42] <Mikey> dnite: i raged it out with a screwdriver :)
[01:42] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yes I installed following the tutorial in the wiki, I'm very much a noob to ubuntu and linux in general so I was trying to get this to work so that I could learn how to use ubuntu better.
[01:43] <dnite> aN1, system -> prefereces -> removable drives and media
[01:43] <riotkittie> ehhh
[01:43] <riotkittie> is it on  the disk in use?
[01:43] <riotkittie> that partition?
[01:43] <MasterShrek> well graxe, i would suggest installing it to your hard drive and learning it that way, booting off a usb drive can be very hit and miss
[01:43] <jsewell> jughead: Thanks.  I have  XChat-GNOME 0.13 and there is no advanced section under prefs
[01:43] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: Interesting because Gentoo, RH FC4, and a brief Knoppix stint all accepted the same partitioning fine :/
[01:43] <dnite> Mikey, sadly, i have thought about this.. but would perfer to leave the button unharmed in a physical sense for astetic reasons.. hehe
[01:43] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: it can be a problem but it is entirely possible, its reformats of the same filesystem and are easily recovered, otherwise you gotta jerk the bianary off the hdd phsyically
[01:43] <magic_ninja> Thug-N-Me: but it is possible to do with certain (expensive) software
[01:43] <wiseelben> is there a way to save your gnome panel settings? I want to try to do a huge revamp, but I don't feel like redoing my old settings if I my new idea fails.
[01:43] <mag_> how can I change the passwd of a samba user ?
[01:44] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: I was with you with the Knoppix bit.. I've run screaming from the others...
[01:44] <aN1> dnite well im there now wut i do?
[01:44] <riotkittie> oops brb. baby having a meltdown. wee.
[01:44] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja they told me that you can but very very hard because of ext3 type
[01:44] <jughead> ohh you use xchat-gnome... I don't know where it is.  mine is in the settings menu right under "preferences"
[01:44] <dnite> mag_ i use webmin.. works great for setting up a lot of different servers and other things like that..
[01:44] <aN1> MasterShrek oh itz not there automatically
[01:44] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: anyhoo, you can try installing from the alternate liveCD, see if that improves matters -= but I would still let Ubuntu create the partition(s)
[01:44] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yeah, I considered that but I don't want to mess with this hard drive too much as this is a computer for school and I need to be careful with it. i have a bad history of overwriting partitions when using linux distributions...its happened at least twice.
[01:45] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: The other thing is I need to keep my Windows install working- I have too many small things to spend the time backing up configs for, then reinstalling and reconfiguring.  Will gparted keep my Windows happy?
[01:45] <variant> Flannel: can't argue with that actualy
[01:45] <Thug-N-Me> magic_ninja now i got use to it :) "no more running commands before reading the how to until the end "
[01:45] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: it won;t even touch it
[01:45] <MasterShrek> Graxe maybe try using a distro that has a usb installer, like slax or dsl
[01:45] <mag_> dnite: but webmin is not for web servers ?
[01:45] <dnite> an1 if u have 'mount removable drives when hot-plugged' checked, they should automatically apear on your desktop.. if not.. search around the gnome configuration editor.. there's a setting there for it.
[01:46] <jsewell> jusghead: yeah, looks like this client doesn't have the option.  maybe I'll try normal xchat.  What exact client are you on?
[01:46] <stahnma_> nick stahnma
[01:46] <aN1> dnite yeah i donno why itz a monted vfat parition
[01:46] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: So it will resize a 160GB SATA NTFS drive to, say, 80GB NTFS, 76GB ext3 and 4GB swap without damaging Windows on its next boot?
[01:46] <aN1> dnite itz just not showing up
[01:46] <aN1> lol
[01:46] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: As you can tell- I've lost too much in the past to not be 1000% sure
[01:46] <Turgon> dnite : maybe you could go to System_preferences_keybinds and associate the "sleep" button with some harmless command, like "change to workspace 1" (at least for me that works)
[01:46] <jman_> Hi all I am trying to install an hp photosmart c3180 all in one printer but whenever I plug it in, the OS doesn't find it and i see nothing is dmesg, any ideas? :-/
[01:46] <jughead> jsewell, I use regular xchat
[01:47] <dnite> mag_, no, webmin is kinda like an all in one adminisration tool for linux.. it detects and allows u to set up various servers and other things on your system.. like apache, samba, etc. works really nice. go a google search for webmin
[01:47] <dnite> Turgon, that would work great. i generally press it when i try and hit esc. is there a way to bind the button to just esc? if not that's fine too
[01:47] <arrenlex> jman_: Install the hpijs package.
[01:47] <arrenlex> !info hpijs
[01:47] <ubotu> hpijs: HP Linux Printing and Imaging - gs IJS driver (hpijs). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.9+1.6.9-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 337 kB, installed size 712 kB
[01:48] <Graxe> MAsterShrek: Dsl and slax, are they as usable as ubuntu? I really wanted to try a distribution with gnome and I was hoping to use the flash drive for diagnostic type stuff on other computers.
[01:48] <Thug-N-Me> hehe i didnt know that firefox supports now irc applications :)
[01:48] <jsewell> jughead: thx
[01:48] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: gparted will resize ntfs fine.. just don;t ask it to move the aprtition :)
[01:48] <variant> !webmin
[01:49] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[01:49] <MasterShrek> well Graxe slax uses kde, and i think dsl uses fluxbox
[01:49] <variant> lol
[01:49] <jman_> arrenlex: already have it instaklled
[01:49] <kanzie> Ill just keep on with this annoying question, hopefully someone joins that might help me... =( Does anyone know why sharing with SAMBA wont work (edgy eft)
[01:49] <arrenlex> jman_: And what about cupsys and cupsys-bsd?
[01:49] <dnite> Turgon, actually.. i'm in keyboard preferences now but i'm not finding a place to bind keys..
[01:49] <arrenlex> !doesn't work | kanzie
[01:49] <ubotu> kanzie: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:49] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: <warning: incoming meme> O RLY?  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php  Says it'll move/resize NTFS :)
[01:49] <riotkittie> slax is a great live distro
[01:49] <dnite> variant, i use webmin now and it works great. regardless of deb/ubuntu support x=)
[01:50] <adaptr> Silver_Seagull: and you trust your data to it, hmm ? :)
[01:50] <Turgon> dnite Launch the program with "gnome-keybinding-properties"
[01:50] <h3xis> webmin is teh secks
[01:50] <riotkittie> Graxe: slax no longer includes gnome; theyve gone with KDE
[01:50] <jman_> arrenlex: yep both also installed
[01:50] <variant> adaptr: if you have the correct file system tools installed gparted will move/resize everything (i think it doesnt support shrinking xfs)
[01:50] <foob> whats safer: writing to ntfs or resizing ntfs?
[01:50] <dnite> Turgon, ah.. thanks a lot..
[01:50] <noiesmo> kanzie, check /etc/smb.conf if you do not want to have username and password on smb shares then set security = share
[01:50] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Yeah I looked at DSL one time and I wasn't sure if it would work for the things I wanted to use it for becuase it was so small in size (I think it was 50mb) What version of slax should I try? I remember they had like 3 versions or something.
[01:51] <variant> adaptr: you might need to compile the latest version as it's not available via apt (I have done it on the live cd and it works exceptionaly well)
[01:51] <MasterShrek> what do u want to do specifically Graxe ?
[01:51] <Turgon> dnite You are welcome :) (I don't know how to bind "sleep" to ESC though)
[01:51] <riotkittie> foob: i've never had a problem writing to NTFS, and have been doing in sine 2004. YMMV .
[01:51] <kanzie> noiesmo, thanks, checking that now
[01:51] <cstyve2> Can someone help me with a login problem with Edgy Eft?
[01:51] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: Well, if you just jot down your name and address here..... I'll be sure to send you a thank you present when by data  goes to byte-haven in a botched gparted mishap ;)
[01:51] <arrenlex> jman_: I don't know... should work. You could try the hplip package, but I don't see how it would help.
[01:51] <dnite> Turgon, that's ok. just so long as it doesn't put my computer to sleep any more i'm more than happy.
[01:51] <foob> riotkittie:  im already having a problem writing to ntfs and it's my first time trying. i get 'permission denied' when i try to using fuse
[01:51] <riotkittie> it since.
[01:51] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3f | foob
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | foob
[01:51] <ubotu> foob: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:52] <noiesmo> kanzie, np, don't forget to restart samba after any changes to smb.conf
[01:52] <Silver_Seagull> adaptr: seriously, thanks for the help, I'll see if I can get it to work
[01:52] <Silver_Seagull> hopefully bbl
[01:53] <kanzie> noiesmo, mhm... I dont have a smb.conf in /etc
[01:53] <Graxe> MasterShrek: Well, I was hoping to learn more about linux and have something that would be useable like a live cd just in a persistent state with some tools that could help work on other computers and basic applications like IM, Word processing, etc. I found that a knoppix live cd is extremely useful, maybe something like that but the main thing was that it be persistent so that I can add things to it.
[01:54] <noiesmo> kanzie, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:54] <riotkittie>  start with the default version, add modules and customize to meet your reeds
[01:54] <riotkittie> needs
[01:54] <riotkittie> my god. why cant i type
[01:54] <arrenlex> riotkittie: apt-get remove typo-demon :)
[01:55] <riotkittie> arrenlex: if only it were that simple!
[01:55] <arrenlex> riotkittie: --purge?
[01:55] <riotkittie> hehehe
[01:56] <variant> how much of the ubuntu launchpad software is still closed source?
[01:56] <cstyve2> Can someone help me with a login problem?
[01:57] <Graxe> OK, I found a tutorial for slax, I will try to install it and report back.
[01:57] <variant> Graxe: /join #slax
[01:57] <MasterShrek> cstyve2 check your login manager properties, something about XDMCP chooser, im not sure exactly if its XDMCP but something like that
[01:57] <Mikey> right, how do i make it detect my ralink cardbus on ra0 ?
[01:57] <kanzie> is there no way to write to ntfs-drives?
[01:57] <noiesmo> !ntfs | kanzie
[01:57] <ubotu> kanzie: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3f | kanzie
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-3f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <noiesmo> !ntfs-3g | kanzie
[01:58] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | kanzie
[01:58] <ubotu> kanzie: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:58] <noiesmo> lol
[01:58] <arrenlex> STUPID F KEY >=||
[01:58] <noiesmo> grrr
[01:58] <riotkittie> heh. just remove it. who needs "f" anyway ;p
[01:58] <cstyve2> I'd like to do that but I can't access a graphical interface
[01:58] <arrenlex> riotkittie: I have no reaking idea.
[01:59] <MasterShrek> log in as root and do startx
[01:59] <kanzie> !fuse
[01:59] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:59] <Afraz> i cant believe a loser like me has finally logged in
[01:59] <kanzie> should I use ntfs-3g rather than fuse?
[01:59] <cstyve2> haven't tried that yet...
[02:00] <riotkittie> yes, use ntfs-3g
[02:00] <cstyve2> If not mistaken startx starts default graphical interface correct?
[02:00] <riotkittie> cstyve2: yes
[02:00] <Mikey> i get it detected in the device manager in ubuntu, but i cant find it in the network settings
[02:00] <cstyve2> OK..that should bring up login prompt and not list of servers to connect to?
[02:01] <cstyve2> I'm newbie
[02:01] <riotkittie> yes
[02:02] <Mikey> anyone?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> !anyone
[02:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:02] <Music_Shuffle> ;p
[02:02] <cstyve2> riotkittie: I'll have to try.  I'm hoping that I won't get connection window.
[02:02] <MasterShrek> cstyve2 after you log in use startx to get to your desktop
[02:02] <riotkittie> heh. i love that bot.
[02:03] <riotkittie> cstyve2: what exactly did you do to *get* a connection window?
[02:03] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: will do....once I reset login defaults not gonna mess around until I read and understand the docs.....
[02:03] <Mikey> ok, ill repeat shall i =) : how do i make it detect my ralink cardbus on ra0, i get it detected in the device manager in ubuntu, but i cant find it in the network settings
[02:03] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: play around with stuff and learn...
[02:03] <MasterShrek> thats the fun of it tho cstyve2
[02:03] <MasterShrek> break it and try to fix it
[02:04] <varsendaggr> hey how do i figure out what kind of video card i have   ?
[02:04] <riotkittie> exactly, MasterShrek :p
[02:04] <Afraz> does any one know how to use this server
[02:04] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: ya until I get myself into trouble....
[02:04] <MasterShrek> well you always have an ubuntu cd to reinstall with
[02:04] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: lspci | grep VGA
[02:04] <riotkittie> like that one day i broke grub. that was fun. wheee.
[02:04] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: I've never even used IRC until now....had to download Edgy Eft Live CD and boot from that on another machine.
[02:05] <cstyve2> MasterShrek: then learn how to use IRC
[02:05] <riotkittie> especially when zenwalk was the only os i could access. and it wasnt picking up my wireless card.
[02:05] <riotkittie> never seen irc?!? the mind, it boggles.
[02:06] <cstyve2> riotkittie: started with ICQ many years ago..now use trillium at work for chat....never had to use IRC for windows....
[02:06] <riotkittie> ah. icq. :)  i havent touched that in ... well, eons.
[02:06] <frak10> does anybody know how to restore a corrupted a corrupted mimefiles database
[02:06] <frak10> ?
[02:07] <thisheregiraffe> icq is old and crusty :x
[02:07] <Mikey> whats the command to list all your network interfaces?
[02:07] <varsendaggr> i am getting fatal server error no screens found
[02:07] <thisheregiraffe> but it was pretty awesome, many years ago
[02:07] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: What card?
[02:07] <cstyve2> yep..haven't had to use much chat stuff...windows application developer
[02:07] <arrenlex> varsendaggr: And what driver are you using?
[02:07] <riotkittie> yeah. i liked icq up until the point that aol bought it
[02:08] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey: try /sbin/ifconfig
[02:08] <tempy> I want to block a domain from being browsed.  How do I go about doing that?  /etc/host.deny? IPTables?  Is there a good place to goto to learn how in a few minutes?
[02:08] <varsendaggr> i am using a savage
[02:08] <riotkittie> and then i had to format my pc and icq would not let me connect on my older version :\
[02:09] <cstyve2> now most contacts are MSN...gag..gag...gag...
[02:09] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: nope, detects only one (loopback) adapter :(
[02:09] <thisheregiraffe> /sbin/ifconfig -a
[02:09] <thisheregiraffe> maybe?
[02:10] <cstyve2> riotkittie: my login problem...the window listing machines to connect to...
[02:10] <thisheregiraffe> or do /sbin/ifconfig --help
[02:10] <Dragutin00> hey...i accidentally removed the battery icon from my top right bar thing
[02:10] <Dragutin00> how do i get it back?
[02:10] <thisheregiraffe> to check out the optional arguments
[02:10] <cstyve2> riotkittie: is that related to remote login?
[02:10] <Dragutin00> i tried adding another from the add icon panel thing but it's not the same icon
[02:10] <tempy> Dragutin00:  right click on the bar
[02:10] <riotkittie> cstyve2: i *imagine* that it is.
[02:10] <Dragutin00> i can get it back in power management but it just shows up as a separate little bar on the desktop
[02:10] <tempy> add to panel
[02:11] <Dragutin00> tempy: thats what i mean
[02:11] <riotkittie> oh brb. my kid just woke up.
[02:11] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: right click on panel and add to panel
[02:11] <Dragutin00> its not the same icon
[02:11] <varsendaggr> do i have to have fonts installed in order to run xorg?
[02:11] <Mikey> hmm, thisheregiraffe: it shows up "sit0" but no sign of my ralink ra0 !!!
[02:11] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: under system hardware you'll see "battery charge monitor"
[02:12] <frak10> same thing happened with me, use the seamonkey driver with the graphical installer
[02:12] <tempy> Dragutin00 is your laptop plugged into a wall outlet right now?
[02:12] <gradin> can anybody direct me to a united linux support room?
[02:12] <cstyve2> Dragutin00: using Edgy Eft
[02:12] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey, do you know that the ra0 interface already is configured..  or do you need to add it?
[02:12] <Dragutin00> tempy: yes
[02:12] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: yeah.
[02:12] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:whats the icon you see?
[02:12] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: its a battery icon
[02:13] <Dragutin00> cstyve2: but its not the same battery icon that is default installe
[02:13] <psychad> i installed ubuntu desktop 6.10, after installation i shut down, put in a sound card and it just doesn't work. /dev/{audio,dsp,mixer} is missing, i can load the correct module but it wont work, if i add the devices with mknod they are gone after restart
[02:13] <arrenlex> gradin: #linux?
[02:13] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: well i dont think it is, see first time i run the installer, it detected it, but froze, so enxt time i run the installer, it said that it coulndt dettect it, i just proceded
[02:13] <psychad> which is the ubuntu way to add a soundcard to a machine ?
[02:13] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:right click on the icon and select preferences
[02:13] <gradin> that may work thanks arrenlex
[02:13] <tempy> I think that is why it looks like a wall plug, so if your battery has juice unplug the wall outlet for thirty seconds
[02:14] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: and it does list it in the device manager, in ubnutu
[02:14] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:there is an option to change the icon compact / expanded view
[02:14] <syutt> holaaaaaaaa
[02:14] <syutt> alguien por hay
[02:14] <syutt> soy nuevo en esto
[02:15] <riotkittie> uh
[02:15] <Tamacracker> he needs a spanish version
[02:15] <mnoir> !es
[02:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:15] <torpedo|dog> syutt: hay discusion en espanol en #ubuntu-es
[02:15] <tempy> dragutin00 do you understand what cstyve2 is saying?
[02:15] <thisheregiraffe> Mikey: i'm afraid i'm not sure how you'd set it up.. have you tried doing some googling, or searching on ubuntuforums.org ?
[02:15] <cstyve2> Dragutin00:hows it goin with the icon
[02:15] <Dragutin00> hm
[02:15] <Dragutin00> workin on it
[02:15] <Tamacracker> Hey guys... I have a question
[02:15] <Dragutin00> o yah i know what ur talkin about
[02:15] <Dragutin00> this icon thats available is sorta like....opaque
[02:16] <Tamacracker> what's the most compatible Wireless USB stick for Ubuntu?
[02:16] <tempy> tamacracker, crack away
[02:16] <cstyve2> Tamacracker: what's your question
[02:16] <Dragutin00> and when its plugged in its not a battery icon
[02:16] <Dragutin00> its a wall plug
[02:16] <Mikey> thisheregiraffe: yes ive tried looking through wiki, ok, ill look again, ill come back
[02:16] <Dragutin00> if you go into system, prefs, power management
[02:16] <Dragutin00> and go to always show icon
[02:16] <Dragutin00> it appears for me on the desktop
[02:16] <Dragutin00> like on this extra little bar
[02:17] <Przemcio78> British people are sooo nice and funny :)
[02:17] <riotkittie> Dragutin00: try right? left? clicking on it, see if you get a menu with the option to MOVE
[02:17] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[02:17] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:17] <tempy> tamacracker, I am looking at http://www.ubuntux.org/linux-hardware-compatibility-list.  It is mostlikely your start
[02:17] <uberspaced> anybody in here know how to use wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper?
[02:17] <riotkittie> if so, select move and drag it to your panel of choice
[02:18] <uberspaced> the card I have is supposedly supported, but I dont get the message I'm supposed to get when i do dmesg
[02:18] <uberspaced> i dont get the message:
[02:18] <uberspaced> wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[02:18] <Dragutin00> riotkittie: but it just moves along the deksto[p
[02:18] <Dragutin00> riotkittie: it doesn't attatch itself to the top bar
[02:19] <uberspaced> the drivers detect that the usb device is present, the card is capable of seeing my router, but it just wont get an IP from the dang thing.
[02:19] <Peebo> Quick one..  How do I change the file associations under Gnome?
[02:19] <smithw> I've just spent 7 hours defragmenting my FAT32 partition, and now, when I'm trying to install Ubuntu, gparted claims it doesn't recognize the FAT32 partition and so it can't resize it. Can anyone tell me where/how do I install this plugin on the live session, please?
[02:19] <kanzie> noiesmo, since I have Swedish-keyboard and swedish windows on the partition writing the files to the ntfs, should I change the line locale=en_US.utf8 to something else or is it clever to keep it that way?
[02:19] <Silver_Seagull2> adaptr: You owe me a beer.  Gparted _failed_ !
[02:20] <riotkittie> smithw: you shouldnt need a plugin
[02:20] <cstyve2> riotkittie: how do you get someones name to appear in your IRC message to them?  I'm constantly having to type in "riotkittie:"
[02:20] <riotkittie> and 7 hours -- are you on a p133? or was the drive just that poorly maintained :P
[02:20] <Silver_Seagull2> adaptr: Granted, it resized the NTFS fine, but it failed creating the new ext3 partition.  Ideas?
[02:20] <tempy> tamacracker, that was mostlikely an outdated listing, do not take my word for it, but most any wireless usb should work, I have not done usb wireless or wired yet
[02:20] <hexidigital> !tab | cstyve2
[02:20] <ubotu> cstyve2: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:20] <auTONYmous> beat me to it, hex
[02:20] <tempy> I think linksys should be okay
[02:20] <hexidigital> auTONYmous::  :)
[02:20] <smithw> riotkittie: do you have any idea why is gparted saying that it's "unable to read the contents of this partitions etc."?
[02:21] <riotkittie> cstyve2: try the first few letters of a persons nick, then hitting TAB
[02:21] <Peebo> does any one even know how to change the file associations under Gnome?
[02:21] <noiesmo> kanzie, sorry I'm not sure I don't right to ntfs
[02:21] <smithw> riotkittie: it's not my home hard drive, I'm test driving ubuntu on work hoping to convince my boss to adopt it...
[02:21] <noiesmo> right/write
[02:21] <Peebo> Linksys is the last hardware you should use
[02:21] <Argonis> Hey can somebody help me with a GRUB issue?
[02:21] <Tamacracker> tempy that's the thing though
[02:21] <riotkittie> smithw: i really have no clue. what size is the drive?
[02:21] <Tamacracker> i wanna know if someone here has a usb stick
[02:21] <cstyve2> riotkittie: HA....now I'm cookin..any other shortcuts I've probably read about and didn't understand
[02:21] <smithw> riotkittie: 40 GB
[02:21] <noiesmo> !ask | Argonis
[02:21] <ubotu> Argonis: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <Tamacracker> and i'll just buy the same one
[02:22] <auTONYmous> Tamacracker: I do...what's the issue?
[02:22] <Argonis> ok
[02:22] <thisheregiraffe> Tamacracker: i have a usb stick.  what's up?
[02:22] <Argonis> haha
[02:22] <noiesmo> Argonis, :)
[02:22] <riotkittie> cstyve2: none that i can think of off the top of my head.
[02:22] <psychad> how do i add a soundcard to ubuntu after install?
[02:22] <cstyve2> riotkittie, thanks....
[02:23] <riotkittie> smithw: i'm completely clueless as to why its not being recognized, sorry
[02:23] <smithw> riotkittie: theoretically, should it be?
[02:23] <Peebo> Tamacracker, By stick you mean USB key disk ?
[02:23] <Argonis> Alright when I load my external drive (I set it to boot first in my BIOS) I get just "GRUB" at the top left of the screen with no menu or options
[02:23] <tempy> peebo:  Are you talking about the file browser nautilus?
[02:23] <Siro> help! my sys folder was deleted what can i do?
[02:23] <Tamacracker> Peebo
[02:24] <Peebo> tempy, Yup
[02:24] <Tamacracker> instead of using a wireless card
[02:24] <Tamacracker> you just stick the usb stick into the usb port
[02:24] <Tamacracker> then you pick up a wireless connection
[02:24] <auTONYmous> Tamacracker: oh, you mean you have a USB wireless NIC?
[02:24] <tempy> Most programs have their own list of for file types
[02:24] <Tamacracker> yes but USB form not network card.
[02:24] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Ah a wireless USB  adapter
[02:24] <thisheregiraffe> Tamacracker: i thought we were talking usb memory keys.. woops.
[02:24] <Tamacracker> i need to know what's the most compatible.
[02:25] <Tamacracker> yes Peebo
[02:25] <Tamacracker> im about to go to the store
[02:25] <Tamacracker> and buy one.
[02:25] <cstyve2> riotkittie: how would I go about chatting directly with someone instead of viewing all messages when asking question
[02:25] <Borzen> Hay i back That means i eather copyed something wrong or it the error
[02:25] <atarinox> hi, does anybody know a good channel for hardware troubleshooting hardware...i'm having some issues with my first PC build
[02:25] <Tamacracker> i dont want a card, i dont have any more pci slots.
[02:25] <tempy> peebo, right-click on the file you what to open
[02:25] <cstyve2> riotkittie: basically I want to filter conversation list temporarily
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> I've tried both xdtv and zapping tv.
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> The volume control in both apps (keyboard and gui) doesn't seem to work. The audio is full of static and slightly screetchy like a speaker turned too high.
[02:25] <Beforewisdom> Any idea what the problem ( and solution )might be?
[02:25] <riotkittie> cstyve2: try /msg <nick> or
[02:25] <tempy> peebo:  go to properties
[02:25] <riotkittie> err /query nick
[02:25] <Tamacracker> does anyone here use a wireless usb adapter on ubuntu, and if so... may i know the name of it?
[02:26] <Peebo> Tamacracker, the Netgear stuff runs on realtek chips. It should work fine under linux

[02:26] <tempy> peebo:  then click on the open-with tab
[02:26] <Mikey> argh, ok this is doing rude things to me that i cannot say. wiki says that my card should be mounted from the start, it shows up in the device manager, and with command dmesg, but not in network settings =\
[02:26] <Tamacracker> do you think walmart will have it?
[02:26] <kanzie> do I need to keep the umask and gid-values in my fstab when changing from ntfs to ntfs-3g?
[02:26] <cstyve2> msg riotkittie testing msg
[02:26] <Argonis> Why doesn't my GRUB let me choose an OS and load it? why is it stuck on a black screen with the work GRUB on it?
[02:26] <Tamacracker> netgear?
[02:26] <Tamacracker> i know they have belkin.
[02:26] <riotkittie> and that should open 1 on 1 convos in a seperate window ... depending on your irc client
[02:26] <atarinox> or can anyone help me with this problem...my pc booted first time just fine, showed up on hte display, everything seemed in order. now i tried to boot a 2nd time nad not getting any display
[02:26] <riotkittie> ack. i am being attacked by a toddler. be back in a bit.
[02:27] <auTONYmous> kanzie: that should work...just change the "ntfs" entry to "ntfs-3g"
[02:27] <Peebo> riotkittie, Throw food at it I heard that works
[02:27] <Mikey> can i restart the network detection?
[02:27] <Tamacracker> Peebo do you think belkin is compatible?
[02:27] <SmoothOp> is there a distro that supports really old hardware
[02:27] <auTONYmous> Peebo: or open the rear access panel and clean out all the poo
[02:28] <Borzen> Hello is there any body that can fix my problem
[02:28] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Belkin gear in general is not good. Interoperability problems even under Windoze
[02:28] <_3fg> !codecs
[02:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:28] <cstyve2> riotkittie: using xchat  I can click on nick and start dialog but doesn't seem to get me anywhere
[02:28] <Tamacracker> eek
[02:28] <killown> SmoothOp you can to install new distro for old hardwares lol
[02:28] <Tamacracker> i can only find netgear online :\
[02:28] <Mikey> !network
[02:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <Peebo> autoklauen, Yeah but my way smells better and is generally quicker.  :)
[02:28] <Siro> help! my sys folder was deleted what can i do?
[02:28] <auTONYmous> touche
[02:29] <Peebo> B^)
[02:29] <magic_ninja> SmoothOp: i have written a howto on installing on old hardware (i did it on 500mhz laptop) and its not the best, but i'll get the job done from a live cd
[02:29] <IntuitiveNipple> cstyve2: I seem to recall Freenode requires registered nicknames before it allows PVT chat
[02:29] <Mikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=NetworkAdmin1.png
[02:29] <Mikey> i dont see my card in that screen :S
[02:29] <Argonis> can somebody please help me with my grub that is stuck?
[02:29] <Borzen> I need help. Ubuntu wont get pass, this is on the live cd, it locks up on loading.
[02:30] <Borzen> The kurnal loads but ubuntu dosent
[02:30] <cstyve2> riotkittie: don't want to send private message...when sending messages to specific nick want to see only their replies to me.
[02:30] <cstyve2> riotkittie: currently see everything going on
[02:30] <Harksaw> what's the easiest ftp server program?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> Harksaw: gftp is a good one
[02:31] <cstyve2> IntuitiveNipple: How do I registger nick...
[02:31] <Silver_Seagull2> Harksaw: FileZilla?
[02:31] <kanzie> hmmm... I changed ntfs to ntfs-3g but then the drive disappeared from the desktop upon restart
[02:31] <Peebo> riotkittie, You still messing with the ankle biter ? Is it yours ?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> cstyve2: /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:31] <auTONYmous> cstyve2: /msg nickserv help
[02:31] <Sulo_Seppa> is it easy 2 install beryl on a machine with ati?
[02:31] <magic_ninja> or /msg magic_ninja <passowrd> LOL
[02:31] <kanzie> do I have to set manual mountpoints in fstab when I switch from ntfs to ntfs-3g?
[02:31] <cstyve2> IntuitiveNipple: running live cd installed xchat..ran through setup and here I am...
[02:32] <Peebo> magic_ninja, U a bad boy  :)
[02:32] <Borzen> Help
[02:32] <magic_ninja> hehe
[02:32] <tempy> I want to block a domain from being browsed.  How do I go about doing that?  /etc/host.deny? IPTables?  Is there a good place to goto to learn how in a few minutes?
[02:32] <auTONYmous> kanzie: are you using the ntfs-3g debs from ubuntuforums? (flomertens)
[02:32] <Harksaw> gftp is just a client, isn't it?
[02:32] <joshua__> WHATS UP ALL IM NEW CAN I GET SOME HELP
[02:33] <blanky> joshua__: just ask...
[02:33] <Peebo> joshua__, That depends on what kind of help you need.
[02:33] <auTONYmous> joshua__: state your problem
[02:33] <Borzen> Will someone tell me if that ubuntu suports Dual-Cores
[02:33] <Apollo> hey argonis what is your problem with grub
[02:33] <auTONYmous> Borzen: yes, but you may need a different kernel from the default
[02:34] <joshua__> IM TRY TO DOWNLOAD HOW TO
[02:34] <Peebo> Borzen, I believe it dose but I have no experience
[02:34] <kanzie> auTONYmous, well yes, but the main-all testing -ones, since they are the latest and does not have a memory-leak that the last one did...
[02:34] <Argonis> when I boot up my external drive I get the word GRUB stuck on a blank screen and I can't choose an OS
[02:34] <Tamacracker> Does anyone know if Linksys wireless usb adapter is good for Ubuntu?
[02:34] <magic_ninja> joshua__: first take off caps lock, caps are annoying and anger ops
[02:34] <Borzen> Ok how easy is to get that, cuz it keep lock ing up when i try to load it from the live CD
[02:35] <auTONYmous> kanzie: there's more than one package for ntfs-3g. You also need the patched "pmount" package for Gnome to automount the disk
[02:35] <kanzie> auTONYmous, maybe I should have gone with the safe bets... =( should I try to uninstall this version and how on earth would I go about doing such a thing?
[02:35] <Openix> Borzen: Edgy supports dual core by default
[02:35] <Borzen> Ok
[02:35] <joshua__> OFF TORRENT IRC PLACE i get command problems
[02:35] <Borzen> I have that so what is causeing it to lock up
[02:35] <Peebo> Tamacracker, Trust me Linksys wireless gear is no good. Endless problems not least of which is lousy transmit  distance
[02:36] <Openix> Borzen: is your install 32 or 64 bit version
[02:36] <Thug-N-Me> error: Python Warning " Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 99: incomplete entry ignored" . line 99 is application/x-sc
[02:36] <Peebo> Tamacracker, It may say Cisco but it's re-badged crap
[02:36] <Borzen> 64 i have amd X2
[02:36] <kanzie> auTONYmous, how do I find and install the patch?
[02:36] <Openix> Borzen: ok, I have 32 bit running
[02:36] <Tamacracker> so netgear is the only way to go?
[02:37] <Tamacracker> belkin and linksys is crap
[02:37] <kanzie> found a link, can I just install this one over the previous one?
[02:37] <Borzen> Do u know any one with 64 runing?
[02:37] <tempy> peebo that is any wireless
[02:37] <auTONYmous> kanzie: it's in the same repo. install it with synaptic
[02:37] <Peebo> Tamacracker, I have a Linksys wireless access point, scored it for free, thank the gods I did not pay money for it.
[02:37] <Openix> Borzen:no, have you tried 32 bit?
[02:37] <Apollo> i had probs with GRUB i had ubuntu on another hd and i already installed fedora on my slave
[02:37] <Peebo> tempy, ???
[02:37] <Borzen> The kurnal paicics when i Do
[02:37] <Tamacracker> :\ i just wanna be able to have wireless on my machine
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> My Linksys WAP54G gives me useful connections out to about 1/2 mile
[02:38] <Tamacracker> and i dont wanna buy a product that's not compatible with ubuntu.
[02:38] <Apollo> wouldn't recognize the other new syatem
[02:38] <auTONYmous> kanzie: you want the 0.9.13-1givre4 version
[02:38] <Argonis> yeah well my grub isn't recognizing anything apparently
[02:38] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: read the ubuntu Neworking & Wireless forums for clues as to the good and bad devices: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136
[02:39] <tempy> peebo unless you have a job as a network admin with wireless specialty, you can not just say no to one brand because you had a problem with ONE device from a brand
[02:39] <Openix> Borzen: is it the same thing every time that causes the panics?
[02:39] <Peebo> Netgear is good, if you only need 10Mb and can find it, the Orinoco PCMCIA cards were the best but that was 5 years ago.
[02:39] <kanzie> auTONYmous, aye... following the instraitions on ubuntuforums now...
[02:39] <Apollo> it's outta my realm
[02:39] <Tamacracker> i have everyone says their product sucks lol
[02:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Orinco_cs doesn't suport WPA right now
[02:39] <tempy> tamacracker, what store were you going to go to?
[02:39] <Tamacracker> belkin, especially netgear, and linksys.
[02:39] <tempy> staples, bestbuy?
[02:39] <Borzen> Yes it the same thing every single time the 64 is the onaly one i can get the kurnal to boot
[02:39] <auTONYmous> kanzie: good deal. Check synaptic to force the version. I believe one of the ubuntu main updates overwrites it
[02:39] <Tamacracker> walmart.. since it's open and it's cheaper.
[02:39] <kanzie> auTONYmous, "Instructions to build pmount (for remoavle device only) for Amd 64 in edgy"
[02:39] <Peebo> I am a network admin been in the biz for 20 years and have had to deal with Linksys crap on many sites
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Ignore most of the comments, they mostly come from people with little understanding of the technologies!
[02:40] <Apollo> sorry Argonis, I can't help maybe someone here can?
[02:40] <kanzie> auTONYmous, Ill do it in console
[02:40] <tempy> one sec tamacracker let me check something
[02:40] <auTONYmous> kanzie: look for the main NTFS-3g thread...it's on the first page
[02:40] <marhoof> hello everybody I have some problems with my wireless card ^ my card smc model no:smc2532w-b  can you help me??????
[02:40] <Mikey> right, what does it mean when it says UNCLAIMED next to the network heading in the output of lshw commans
[02:40] <auTONYmous> kanzie: are you on AMD64?
[02:40] <tempy> intuitivenipple you are RIGHT!!! ntuitiveNipple: Tamacracker: Ignore most of the comments, they mostly come from people with little understanding of the technologies!
[02:40] <Openix> Borzen: sounds like a hardware isuue
[02:40] <Tamacracker> IntuitiveNipple, thus is why im here.. to ask if anyone at this current moment has a Wireless USB Adapter that works flawlessly.
[02:40] <kanzie> auTONYmous, yes
[02:40] <IntuitiveNipple> tempy: I know, I set-up and ran a Wireless rural broadband business
[02:41] <mag_> hey... do you know why I can't to log in windows...? I have a account with samba but when I want to log in windows, windows requestme user and pass but I can't type the user !! :(  .....................................................
[02:41] <Tamacracker> I just want to plug it into the usb port
[02:41] <auTONYmous> kanzie: Oh, I know Givre built some packages for 686, not sure about 64-bit, but he does make the patch available
[02:41] <Tamacracker> and it be recognized
[02:41] <Borzen> That is what i think but i get that is my Video card and my CPU, Cuz i am using Nvidia for gameing
[02:41] <Tamacracker> without any problems and then log onto the wireless network.
[02:41] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, What was your longest wireless shot? Mine was 5 Km's not far I know but terrain got it the way
[02:41] <auTONYmous> kanzie: he patched pmount, and did some changes to the HAL rules
[02:41] <tempy> I do many installs with SOHO routers and the only problem is the client (Windows)
[02:42] <adamlaz> hi all
[02:42] <auTONYmous> kanzie: try getting his source deb and building yourself
[02:42] <adamlaz> im getting a 'Failed to fetch http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Could not connect to www.getautomatix.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)' error trying to upgrade to 6.10
[02:42] <Openix> Borzen: have you posted your problem to ubuntuforums.org?
[02:42] <tempy> TAMACRACKER, trust me, I do not know which (brand is best) but try what you can
[02:43] <Tamacracker> lol
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: hlaf-duplex could get 54Mbps out to 2km using circular polarised directional attenas
[02:43] <Borzen> No onaly on max pc's alt os fourms
[02:43] <Peebo> Of course in the Military with an 11 metre mast we were getting 20-30 Km's.
[02:43] <Tamacracker> maybe ill just wait then... when ubuntu matures more.
[02:43] <tempy> Before purchase go to customer service and see what the return policy is on the product, then try it, unless intuitivenipple disagrees
[02:43] <Openix> Borzen: ubuntuforums.org is the best to post to
[02:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Your best bet may be to look at devices that workin in Windows and also with the Linux NDIS wrapper
[02:43] <Borzen> ok i try there
[02:43] <Silver_Seagull> Can anyone give me a tip on what the boot option is to skip GDM startup in the 6.10 LiveCD?
[02:43] <Tamacracker> im not gonna keep goin back and forth gettin different products just to find out non of  them work.
[02:44] <kanzie> auTONYmous, ok, now I have done all it instructed me to, I have pmount 0.9.13-1givre4 installed now
[02:44] <kanzie> now what?
[02:44] <Tamacracker> non of them say anything about compatibility with linux.
[02:44] <Tamacracker> only windows and macs.
[02:44] <Tamacracker> that's it.
[02:44] <auTONYmous> kanzie: internal or USB?
[02:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker:  try reading this: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-wireless-w-ubuntu-debian-linux
[02:44] <Tamacracker> linux is non-existent in the mainstream world.
[02:45] <adamlaz> is anyone available?
[02:45] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, I used a horizontally polarised half pipe shaped directional antenna
[02:45] <Silver_Seagull> Tamacracker: Tell a server admin that ;)
[02:45] <Silver_Seagull> Tamacracker: ...then duck really fast
[02:45] <Tamacracker> Go to any retail store and say the word Linux... I bet people think you're speaking german.
[02:45] <kanzie> auTONYmous, internal...two discs with ntfs
[02:45] <tempy> has any one done a install with USB network device here?
[02:45] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: I've got the farm here covered with an omnidirectional driven by a custom-firmware Linksys WAP54G with its power upped by about 25%
[02:45] <MasterLexx> huh why?
[02:45] <tempy> I think that is the key q
[02:45] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: Oh, it exists, but corporations think anything besides RHEL or SuSE are evil
[02:46] <fatlip> quick question..in xorg.conf -- the device configuration: "PCI:1:0:0" -- what's what? if my card has two outputs, how do i specify one over the other? 1:0:0 and 1:0:1?
[02:46] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: meh, their loss :D
[02:46] <MasterLexx> when i go in a store and ask for linux there is nothing unusual with it.
[02:46] <auTONYmous> kanzie: check fstab, unmount and remount (mount -a should do it)
[02:46] <MasterLexx> maybe because i live in germany?
[02:46] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, upped by 25% means your probably close to a netgear with no weaking.
[02:46] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: btw- is there a boot option list somewhere? :/  *.ubuntu.com has failed me
[02:47] <riotkittie> when i go in a store and ask for linux, they look at me like i am crazy
[02:47] <riotkittie> then again, i only shop at liquor stores.
[02:47] <fatlip> LOL!
[02:47] <MasterLexx> ?
[02:47] <riotkittie> thank you, thank you. i'll be here all week.
[02:47] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: you mean Grub's config and the options you can pass?
[02:47] <MasterLexx> here in germany there are many shops that sell linux, but most sell only suse
[02:47] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: all devices  are set close to the legal maximum in the amps, taking account of the EIRP which depends on the antennas
[02:47] <kanzie> auTONYmous, oooh... this really didnt work
[02:47] <Tamacracker> thank you
[02:47] <Tamacracker> I'm goin with Belkin
[02:47] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: No, on the LiveCD- I need to stop GDM from starting
[02:47] <kanzie> auTONYmous, can I show you a pastebin?
[02:48] <tempy> tamacracker?
[02:48] <Tamacracker> that site just shows proof that belkin works
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Tamacracker: Did that link help?
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> good
[02:48] <Tamacracker> and walmart sells belkin
[02:48] <Mikey> ok, if anyone can help, ive got a little dificulty understanding the output of lshw
[02:48] <Tamacracker> thanks IntuitiveNipple
[02:48] <Mikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide#check
[02:48] <riotkittie> MasterLexx: there are a few places where Linux is sold in stores here but the sections are somewhat unimpressive
[02:48] <IntuitiveNipple> make sure you get the SAME model then - different models may well use different chipsets
[02:48] <riotkittie> i think Wal-Mart is selling Ubuntu. perhaps that is only online though
[02:48] <Peebo> I have a WAP 54G with twin ant's and it hardly covers my house. Because I got ti for free I'm think of messing with it's guts try and make it work.
[02:48] <auTONYmous> Silver_Seagull: not sure...I think you can edit the boot options on the CD's grub...select your choice, press "e" and put "single" at the end of the line
[02:48] <Mikey> this site tells me to see if there is a driver?? what should i look for??
[02:48] <Tamacracker> yeah and im assuming that Edge Eft is more advanced than Breezy.. yes?
[02:49] <auTONYmous> kanzie: patste away
[02:49] <Tamacracker> edgy*
[02:49] <Flannel> Tamacracker: newer
[02:49] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: mkay, give it a go in a bit
[02:49] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo - I've never had a problem with WAP54Gs, and we've installed hundreds
[02:49] <Tamacracker> yeah so it's ok :D
[02:49] <Silver_Seagull> auTONYmous: thanks
[02:49] <Tamacracker> brb
[02:49] <IntuitiveNipple> maybe you have a bad one or your location isn't radio-friendly
[02:49] <MasterLexx> you can buy ubuntu on ebay for 2 euro
[02:49] <kanzie> auTONYmous, paste.uni.cc/12629
[02:49] <Mikey> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:49] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, What country U in ?
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> UK
[02:50] <auTONYmous> kanzie: modprobe fuse
[02:50] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Ok I'm in Aus so the spec's should be the same. How did you boost the TX power
[02:50] <IntuitiveNipple> The funniest Wireless experience I ever had was a business customer who had a temp office and wanted networking so we used wireless and couldn't work out why they kept losing connections and had bad signals.
[02:50] <auTONYmous> kanzie: oops...sudo modprobe fuse
[02:51] <peace-keeper> stupid linux displays wrong time :(
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Turned out they were based in a former radiology lab and it had a faraday cage built into the walls!
[02:51] <riotkittie> yikes
[02:51] <kanzie> auTONYmous, did that, no difference when trying mount -a after
[02:51] <jordo> someone know the madwifi mode
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> Peeob - its a long time ago now (years) but I found a firmware upgrade for it and installed that... i think it was called Hyper... something
[02:51] <auTONYmous> kanzie: lsmod|grep fuse, and msg it to me
[02:51] <IntuitiveNipple> let me log into it and see, if i can recall the password
[02:52] <jordo> no one can help me about madwifi configuration
[02:52] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, That would make radio a little difficult :).  Didn't they notice they couldn't get the local FM station
[02:53] <kanzie> auTONYmous, fuse 41864     0
[02:53] <kanzie> auTONYmous, trying to update the fuse now
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo: HyperWAP v1.0 v2.07
[02:53] <Mikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/896/
[02:53] <Mikey> please someone look at my paste, i had to type it manually :(
[02:53] <IntuitiveNipple> Peebo - they didn't have radio receivers, just a temp office until their new premises were built
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> But, it certainly gave us a few months of head-scratching
[02:54] <toothpick> Is there a bot here to easy questions?
[02:54] <IntuitiveNipple> In the end we replaced it all with a wired net
[02:54] <kanzie> auTONYmous, downloading and installing fuse 2.6.1 now
[02:54] <Peebo> IntuitiveNipple, Just googled that so I'm off to investigate
[02:54] <auTONYmous> kanzie: http://flomertens.keo.in/
[02:55] <toothpick> I want the fglrx easy way.
[02:55] <Borzen> If any one can answer my question before some one on the furms they will be prised highly in my life
[02:55] <Mikey> no rush
[02:55] <kanzie> auTONYmous, can I just follow those instructions on top of what I have done now?
[02:56] <jsewell> where is grub.conf?  I assume under /etc somewhere but the file mgr's find can't find it...
[02:56] <LSolaris> HELP: hey, anyone on freenode, i need someone to give me the name of the person who runs #gnupg, i have to report an abusive admin
[02:56] <auTONYmous> kanzie: an update might do some good, and checking that you have all the packages (and versions) listed on his web page
[02:57] <jackson3246> is there any way to emulate an installed windows partition from a linux partition?
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> "emulate" ?
[02:57] <jackson3246> or like.. run
[02:57] <kyncani> jsewell: google grub.conf
[02:57] <jackson3246> whatever the correct term is
[02:57] <IntuitiveNipple> hmm, do you mean get access to the files on it?
[02:57] <Mikey> how do i know my kernel v?