[04:46] <ClayG> my netbook will not recognize sd cards, how can i fix this?
[04:46] <Symmetria> josh ok, so every time you log in it checks?
[04:46] <josh_> check your startup applications in system/(user?)/startup applications, and look for the update notifier if thats not the case
[04:46] <josh_> Symmetria: mhmm. also ^
[04:47] <ericy> jiltdil: Actually, you should go to the Ubuntu Accessories menu, and open the Archive (compression) Manager, and select zip file with passord.
[04:47] <Prillicy> awesome, this is great
[04:47] <Prillicy> first question: how do I turn off Ubuntu's nanny?
[04:47] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, I'm going to go & watch a movie before I go & sleep, so if anything let me know what happens when you get to your dual install. I want to know if it will work.
[04:47] <Symmetria> josh no can do :) Im just looking at our mirror logs and trying to figure out why a single IP that I presume is a proxy of some sort has managed to rack up 6 million hits to us in the last 4 days
[04:48] <Symmetria> before I phone em and ask em what the hell they doing :)
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: sure thing, ill pop in and tell you if i find you on, thanks for your time and for the talk liked it
[04:48] <jiltdil> ericy:yes i see but only .zip file compression provides password if i set to it as other with password how to do it?
[04:48] <notsocommon> Does Ubuntu 10.04 have a file comparable to linux-restricted-modules-common that I could use to help me install my graphics card?
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: enjoy the movie and good night when you go
[04:48] <Auriga> Mxzklcc, Let me pm you right quick...
[04:48] <Mxzklcc> go on lol
[04:48] <xangua> !info linux-restricted-modules-common lucid | notsocommon
[04:48] <ericy> Madpilot: jiltdil: Actually, you need to the Ubuntu Accessories menu, and open the Archive (compression) Manager, and select zip file with passord.
[04:49] <Prillicy> It's asking me to put in my password every few seconds for one install or another.  Is there a way to turn that off?
[04:49] <notsocommon> xangua-thanks
[04:49] <Mxzklcc> Auriga: mind you im on empathy so not sure if ill see lol
[04:49] <ugliefrog> i recently removed a tuner card from my system and i have put it back in .... is there away to refresh it...its not working like it once did
[04:49] <xangua> Prillicy: it's not, you have 15 minutes after you enter the password
[04:49] <jiltdil> ericy; ya i selected zip with password. i want to say that if i want to use other than.zip then how to set password
[04:49] <soultravel369> I am using xchat and iriss, iriss is really tech hahah
[04:50] <Prillicy> xangua: how do I turn it off?
[04:50] <notsocommon> ubottu-I know it doesn't as such. But I was wondering if there was a comparable directory in lucid to l-r-m-m?
[04:50] <Madpilot> Prillicy, nanny?
[04:50] <Madpilot> ericy, right-click->Compress should also give access to "zip with password" as an option. Possibly under the "other options" dropdown to expose the password dialogue
[04:51] <Madpilot> Prillicy, going with a passwordless install is really NOT recommended...
[04:51] <ericy> jiltdil: You have to use a separate encryption utility( which can encrypt your open office file.
[04:52] <Prillicy> linux has a password, that's cool, but I don' t need to be asked if I'm sure every time I do something
[04:52] <jiltdil> ericy: ok how to make it digitally signature as there is option but m unable to use it
[04:52] <soultravel369> Brian, what part of TX you from?
[04:53] <soultravel369> Brian.... where in TX are you from?
[04:54] <soultravel369> Madpilot... where in TX are you from lolz?
[04:54] <Logan_> !ops
[04:54] <xangua> !ot | soultravel369
[04:55] <ericy> jiltdil: I have not used 'digital signiture' yet (I believe that is PGP encryption). There are many small encryption utilities that you can install.
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> soultravel369: That'll do.
[04:55] <Madpilot> soultravel369, not from anywhere near TX myself. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here, though.
[04:55] <Madpilot> Logan_, ?
[04:55] <soultravel369> sorry...
[04:55] <Starminn> Logan_: Did that really require an ops call?
[04:55] <jiltdil> ericy:plz tell me i want to secure it as it is one of my confidential presentation
[04:55] <soultravel369> <--- first time on IRC
[04:56] <soultravel369> whats an ops call?
[04:56] <Prillicy> so no one can tell me how to turn off the nanny in linux?  I can turn off the nanny in windows.  why not linux?
[04:56] <soultravel369> I think I need to read about irc more now hahah
[04:56] <Madpilot> Prillicy, because Linux is more secure than Windows. Next question?
[04:57] <ericy> jiltdil: In Synaptic Package Manager, search for: file encrypt
[04:57] <Starminn> soultravel369: In this channel, when somebody says "!ops" as the first thing on a line it calls all of the channel operators (i.e. the people who govern this channel)
[04:57] <ClayG> my netbook will not recognize sd cards, how can i fix this?
[04:57] <jiltdil> ericy:ok thanx
[04:57] <soultravel369> oooh okay, thanks Starminn
[04:57] <Starminn> Prillicy:  IT is what defines Linux and makes it so much more secure than Windows. Windows only just started implementing a password system (half-assed, too, if I may say so myself). Why? Because they saw how great it was.
[04:57] <Madpilot> soultravel369, just hang out here, ask questions if you have any. "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" to join the offtopic chat channel.
[04:57] <josh_> Prillicy: more security isn't always so bad. If you need to do something for long periods of time as root, though, there's always sudo su
[04:58] <Prillicy> Madpilot: so you're saying that linux needs a nanny to protect users from all those nasty linux viruses out there?  I can understand that
[04:58] <soultravel369> k, will do Madpilot
[04:58] <eyesuck> hey whats the command to create a blank file from command line? e.g. "*cmd one.html two.html three.html"
[04:58] <Flannel> eyesuck: touch
[04:58] <eyesuck> ah ok i thought it was something like that
[04:58] <ericy> jiltdil: ok.
[04:58] <soultravel369> you don't need a nanny, you get root to set user privs and stuff
[04:58] <eyesuck> thx
[04:59] <Fudge> hi i have a couple of ubiuntus debian installed etc, but when i update a kernel maverick is updating grub, how can i remove grub-pc from maverick and let lucid manage grub? if i remove it from maverick since lucid had preivously installed it will it still be there or removed completely loL conused
[04:59] <Starminn> !virus | Prillicy
[04:59] <soultravel369> and wine
[04:59] <Madpilot> Prillicy, in Linux, you don't own the system. You own  your own files, the system owns it's files. Hence needing a password to mess with system files. (I'm generalizing)
[04:59] <Prillicy> so if linux doesn't have viruses, why do I need to tell linux that I'm the one making changes....
[04:59] <Starminn> Prillicy: Read up about user permissions.
[04:59] <soultravel369> I don't use wine for the fact of how easy it is to get a virus
[04:59] <josh_> Prillicy: there ARE trojans and rk's out there... but of course, they aren't very prevalent and they generally require *root access* ;)
[04:59] <Madpilot> Prillicy, because it might not be you sitting at the keyboard?
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> Yep, and we all know that getting a virus in linux is a horrible thing.
[05:00] <soultravel369> you tell Linux you make the changes as Root, so that no one else can... safer than Windows
[05:00] <Prillicy> with a netbook?
[05:00] <Logan_> !ops
[05:00] <Starminn> Prillicy: You own your Home folder. For everything else you need to enter the password (i.e. sudo)
[05:00] <Madpilot> ubottu, tell Prillicy about sudo
[05:00] <Logan_> join part span
[05:00] <Logan_> *spam
[05:00] <tsimpson> Prillicy: actually, requiring a password to gain privileges is one of the reasons there aren't many viruses for linux, disabling that feature would help them to spread. but if you want to stop something asking your password every X time, run the installer itself from sudo
[05:00] <soultravel369> sudo gives you root for commands
[05:00] <Madpilot> YankDownUnder, s/horrible/damn near impossible
[05:00] <YankDownUnder> Madpilot, Yes, mate, I know - that was sarcasm.
[05:00] <Logan_> thanks KB1JWQ
[05:01] <soultravel369> Ubuntu = Sudo and Fedora I beleive is Yum... both are root
[05:01] <Prillicy> hmm
[05:01] <Prillicy> thanks for the infor everyone
[05:01] <Starminn> Prillicy: As it stands now, if you were to get a virus, it wouldn't actually hurt anything but a few files because in WIndows it can reach everyhting. In Linux it's confined ot a few files
[05:01] <josh_> Prillicy: what makes you need root access so much neway??
[05:01] <Fudge> hi grub, if i remvoe grub-pc apt wants to isntall grub. how can i remove it from maverick without installing grub?
[05:01] <tsimpson> soultravel369: Yum is a package manager, like apt, not like sudo
[05:01] <Prillicy> apparently installing chrome
[05:01] <em> test
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> Under wine, a virus is just plain stopped dead in it's tracks because it can't affect or automate. End of story.
[05:02] <Madpilot> soultravel369, not quite. Ubuntu's yum equivilent is apt-get or aptitude
[05:02]  * josh_ hi-five's em
[05:02] <Prillicy> which I should note, you can do in windows without even decent access, heh
[05:02] <needlez> anyone know if I can make it so that my computer requires a password to access grub or something like an encrypted harddrive without losing my system??
[05:02] <soultravel369> oooh okay.... Tsimpson... I thought Yum was root equivlant as Sudo in Fedora
[05:02] <soultravel369> my bad
[05:02] <Starminn> Prillicy: That's because it installs it for all users, and if you look at your file heirarchy, /usr is below /home/<yourname>
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Fudge: What is the output of "sudo apt-get remove grub-pc"? Why are you trying to remove grub-pc in the first place?
[05:03] <tsimpson> Prillicy: technically you can in Linux too, just not system-wide
[05:03] <Starminn> Prillicy: And yes, that "without decent access" is why Google has shut down using all Windows computers. Because they got hacked and are now no longer using Windows
[05:03] <Prillicy> so I was looking into multitouch, and hte first thing I found requires me to add code to a file...looks odd to say the least, could someone walk me thorugh this
[05:03] <soultravel369> I use "sudo aptitude install *package*"
[05:03] <Fudge> Jordan_U  grub-pc will be remvoed and grub will be installed
[05:03] <soultravel369> aptitude is cleaner than apt-get imo
[05:03] <Madpilot> KB1JWQ, might want to tweak that ban you set. You might just have banned some significant tranche of AOL victims... :)
[05:03] <Fudge> i have lucid maverick mint and arch on this drive and i am trying to manage grub-pc with lucid
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Please pastebin the complete output.
[05:04] <Jordan_U> !mint | Fudge
[05:04] <josh_> needlez: I think grub can be password protected, but that's something that would be easy to find on [search-engine of your choice] ;)
[05:04] <soultravel369> how do yuo like Mavrick compared to Lucid Fudge
[05:04] <needlez> kk thx
[05:04] <Logan_> !ot | soultravel369
[05:04] <jiltdil> how to make my open office presentation such like that its content cannot be copied and also  no one can take  it to his comp?
[05:04] <Fudge> http://pastebin.com/td2ySbAp
[05:04] <Prillicy> nvm, it'
[05:05] <Prillicy> s late and I'm tired
[05:05] <josh_> needlez: glad to help ;) report back after you've done your diligence in searching ;)
[05:05] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: I would be surprised if you could. That sounds like DRM, and is antithetical to the goals of Open Office. Why do you want to do this?
[05:05] <Prinler^Lin> Can someone help me out with a partition issue? I installed XP on the first 160GB of my HD... and the other 160 is ubuntu.... I dont want XP Anymore! How can i delete it and allow Ubuntu to have all 320gb?
[05:05] <Fudge> Jordan_U  its pretty straight forward, sorry if i didnt explain it better
[05:05] <jiltdil> Jordan_U:the data in it is quite confedential so i want to use this
[05:06] <xangua> Prinler^Lin: use gparted from live cd to delete windows partion
[05:06] <Madpilot> jiltdil, short version, don't ever publish it anywhere. Long version, it's very, very hard to keep people from copying stuff...
[05:07] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: If it is confidential then don't give the file to anyone that shouldn't have it.
[05:07] <Prinler^Lin> xangua,  if i delete the partition will my Ubuntu still boot?
[05:07] <Fudge> Jordan_U  did you notice the paste url
[05:07] <jiltdil> Jordan_U:ok thanx
[05:07] <jiltdil> Madpilot:thanx
[05:07] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: Why are you giving it to people who you can't trust if it's confidential? They can always use a camera phone or paper and pencil.
[05:07] <xangua> wikileaks documents are confidentials :P
[05:08] <YankDownUnder> Not 'spose'ta tell folks about Wikileaks...dang...secrets out now...dang...there goes the world...
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Yes.
[05:09] <silkon> free energy
[05:09] <Madpilot> jiltdil, if your "quite confidential" file really absolutely has to go up on the web for some reason, it probably isn't that confidential. Still, a password-locked zip with a very strong password is likely a good starting point... or PGP/GPG
[05:09] <silkon> pleace
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Can you pastebin the output of "aptitude why grub-pc"? (I don't have this problem when I try to remove grub-pc).
[05:10] <jiltdil> Madpilot: how to use PGP
[05:10] <ericy> jiltdil: gcipher is a simple "encryption" tool.
[05:10] <jiltdil> ericy:thanx
[05:11] <Fudge> Jordan_U  i   startupmanager Depends grub | grub-pc
[05:11] <Madpilot> jiltdil, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[05:11] <jsoftw> Phoar.
[05:11] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: ericy: gcipher offers no real security. Nor does it even  claim to.
[05:11] <ericy> jiltdil: Yes that is right.
[05:11] <Fudge> Jordan_U  so i can remove startupmanager anyway i believe
[05:11] <jiltdil> Jordan_u: u r right i saw gcipher
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Fudge: Then: sudo apt-get remove grub-pc startupmanager
[05:12] <joshmclvl1> grr, dumb network. josh_ is back!
[05:12] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, what, ROT13 isn't a leet pure awesome encryption method???
[05:12] <Fudge> Jordan_U  its done, thank you i didnt know about aptitude why, very helpful mate
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Fudge: You're welcome.
[05:12]  * joshmclvl1 chuckles at Madpilot
[05:13] <jiltdil> thanx to all!
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: abcr
[05:13] <ericy> jiltdil: Searching in package manager, I see bcript, ccrypt etc.
[05:13] <jiltdil> ok i am going to test all
[05:16] <Madpilot> of course, ROT26 is twice as encrypted. Rly.
[05:16] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, abcr?
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Madpilot: "nope" with rot13.
[05:18] <myradlife_> Hey guys!   How do I browse a shared folder on another computer in my LAN using terminal? I know how to do this via file manager, but how can i do this through commandline?
[05:18] <panfist> i'm trying to set my pc to only allow ssh pubkeyauthentication, and i have set no for everything except for PubKeyAuthentication in the config file and restarted, but it still accepts password authentication
[05:19] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_:ssh perhaps?
[05:20] <myradlife_> joshmclvl1, when i use the file browser, does it mount somewhere on my cpu?
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> Mount on your CPU?
[05:20] <myradlife_> computer
[05:20] <myradlife_> not processor
[05:21] <Madpilot> Jordan_U, heh. (that's "heh" in ROT26)
[05:21] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_: um, not too sure ^_^; depends on how you connect; when you set it up what connection method did you choose?
[05:21] <myradlife_> the location via "info" says sftp://ryancomputer.local/Path
[05:21] <jiltdil> myradlife_:if u use ssh use ssh user@ip and then open data by programne filename
[05:21] <joshmclvl1> myradlife_: methinks you probably dont mount it manually.
[05:22] <myradlife_> I'm just going to the "Places" menu, and "Network" find my other computer and it asks for user/pass
[05:22] <jiltdil> myradlife:if u want to copy data use scp via terminal or want to see or made changes i n his data use ssh
[05:23] <myradlife_> okay
[05:25] <Chapati> Jon--, you there?
[05:26] <Chapati> can anyone link to a tutorial on how to set up full drive encryption with truecrypt?
[05:26] <Chapati> i can't find anything
[05:26] <Chapati> i can only make new partitions
[05:27] <panfist> i could boot the 10.10 livecd with 'nomodeset' boot option, but now that i've installed it and tried to boot of the disk, it hangs during "checking battery status"
[05:27] <Jon--> Chapati: here but busy on phone sry
[05:27] <Chapati> Jon--, k
[05:27] <panfist> it does not say ok next to checking battery status
[05:27] <myradlife_> jiltdil, i could ssh into it, scp returns an error: cp: cannot stat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>No such file or directory
[05:27] <Chapati> everyone says you can encrypt everything but the /boot folder, yet i can't figure out how to do that at all
[05:27] <sacarlson> Chapati: I'm not sure about truecrypt but there are many with luks and gpg http://lfde.org/getting_started.html
[05:28] <jiltdil> myradlife: only use scp no ssh for connection for copying
[05:29] <myradlife_> jiltdil, I did. My command was scp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/Users/ryanradjabi/Public/usart-atmega32 ~/Desktop
[05:29] <myradlife_> scp returns an error: cp: cannot stat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>No such file or directory
[05:30] <bastidrazor> myradlife_: your command is wrong.. scp file-to-be-copied user@host:path/to/destination
[05:30] <delux> just a quick question, wouldnt ftp be easier then scp?
[05:30] <jiltdil> myradlife:scp hisusername@his ip
[05:30] <bastidrazor> delux: by no means would it be faster/easier.
[05:30] <jiltdil> do thi
[05:31] <homebrewcider> hi all, trying to apt-get install "random package" on my Ubuntu server and it's not connecting to the net, but I can access the pc from other pcs on the network
[05:31] <weecol> you mean sftp
[05:31] <myradlife_> jiltdil, is that usage correct? shouldn't it be scp destination user@host:path/to/file   ?
[05:31] <delux> yeah sftp.
[05:32] <weecol> use the shell if you have trouble
[05:32] <jiltdil> myradlife: oh sorry i
[05:33] <delux> homebrew can you paste what you get with command ifconfig?
[05:33] <homebrewcider> sure. hang on a minute
[05:33] <delux> well, assuming your comfortable with it
[05:33] <mintberrycrunch4> .
[05:33] <mintberrycrunch4> can someone help me real quick
[05:33] <L34rn3r> there is a BackTrack "OS" Channel
[05:34] <weecol> lot of leave and entre traffic
[05:34] <bastidrazor> L34rn3r: #backtrack-linux
[05:35] <weecol> hey guys any meetings planned here?
[05:35] <Logan_> !meetings | weecol
[05:35] <jiltdil> myradlife_:perhabs other helps u i got confused with scp
[05:37] <homebrewcider> trying to work out how to copy/paste from there to pastebin
[05:37] <Logan_> !pastebinit | homebrewcider
[05:38] <delux> oh wow, thats a handy package
[05:38] <delux> *jots it down*
[05:38] <homebrewcider> but that pc has no internet access, that's the whole problem
[05:38] <crlcan81> What the hell is ICEauthority?
[05:38] <delux> irony haha
[05:38] <Logan_> !language | crlcan81
[05:39] <homebrewcider> what part do you wanna know delux?
[05:39] <crlcan81> because I don't know WHAT happened, but now when I login it can't open ICEauthority for my home folder.
[05:39] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:39] <weecol> are next meetings in the logs
[05:40] <weecol> ping
[05:40] <crlcan81> What's ICEAuthority then?
[05:41] <crlcan81> I need to figure how exactly I disabled access to it for Ubuntu. So I can correct it.
[05:43] <weecol> !explain ICE
[05:43] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | crlcan81
[05:44] <Jordan_U> crlcan81: It's now owned by root as you ran a GUI command with sudo rather than gksudo. Chown it back to your user to be able to log in again.
[05:46] <abigayle> who's here?
[05:47] <Logan_> 1220 people?
[05:47] <abigayle> wow
[05:48] <Logan_> !pm | abigayle
[05:51] <crlcan81> how do I chown it though? you're talking to someone who hasn't done that stuff before intentionally.
[05:51] <crlcan81> any time that stuff happens it's a secondary effect of some other thing I've done.
[05:51] <jsoftw> chown user:group /path/to/thing
[05:51] <needlez> ok, so got a password on grub. Thanx, btw
[05:52] <jsoftw> :|
[05:52] <crlcan81> so chown crlcan81 /crlcan81/.ICEauthority IF that's the path to ICEauthority?
[05:52] <needlez> no my question is there a way to log the attempted passwords on a lock screen return?? or login screen?? and set a limit to how many times a password can be tried??
[05:52] <jsoftw> What is all this flooding business
[05:53] <crlcan81> netsplit
[05:53] <Logan_> !netsplit | jsoftw
[05:53] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[05:53] <weecol> best to wait a while?
[05:54] <jsoftw> whats that for
[05:54] <jsoftw> !newsgroups
[05:56] <JuNeX> hello
[05:56] <jsoftw> hurro
[05:56] <JuNeX> i have a problem in my samba
[05:56] <JuNeX> -->  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[05:56] <JuNeX> i can't share my file
[05:57] <jsoftw> *pass*
[05:57] <jsoftw> Aint used samba in a long long time.
[05:57] <JuNeX> i see
[05:58] <grendal_prime> SAMBA'S BAD ASS
[05:58] <JuNeX> im new in ubuntu
[05:58] <JuNeX> what is the best filesharing for ubuntu 10.10?
[05:58] <grendal_prime> samba
[05:58] <JuNeX> need to share it with WINXP
[05:58] <grendal_prime> if you ahve windows boxes
[05:58] <jsoftw> JuNeX: if you're talking windows, then probably samba
[05:58] <crlcan81> I don't know if it was when I did add-apt-repository or if something else went wonky.
[05:58] <grendal_prime> well actually nothing really beats good ol ssh
[05:58] <crlcan81> I just want to figure out how to find the proper path.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:59] <JuNeX> whats this error means? -> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> too man files...
[05:59] <grendal_prime> many that is
[05:59] <grendal_prime> must compress.
[05:59] <jsoftw> JuNeX: I looks like it doesnt know who Everyone is
[06:00] <JuNeX> hmm
[06:00] <JuNeX> i see where will i change that?
[06:00] <jsoftw> *shrug*
[06:00] <jsoftw> How are you trying to share stuff?
[06:01] <YankDownUnder> Sharing is piracy. :)
[06:01] <JuNeX> i have 2 PC's here 1 is Ubuntu & 1 is WINDOWS XP
[06:01] <JuNeX> just want to know HOW to connect them
[06:02] <needlez> hi was wondering if someone could explain if I can or how to set it to log passwords for login and if I can set an amount of times attempted before complete lock down for a set time
[06:02] <MTecknology> samba is usually the easiest
[06:02] <MTecknology> JuNeX: most people will say samba; there's a lot of other options but that'll be the easiest to understant
[06:02] <MTecknology> understand*
[06:02] <jordan_> question, in 10.10 64 bit how do i get my close window / minimize options back for the top of my folders
[06:03] <rajvi> i found abug with 10.10 on dell mini 10 where should i report it
[06:03] <Ant13> Hello everyone, id need some help dualbooting windows and kubuntu, the official guides dont seem to work as windows loads from grub, goes to windows logo (loading screen) and my pc restarts
[06:03] <brightspark> jordan_: are your buttons not present?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Try asking in ##windows.
[06:04] <JuNeX> @MTecknology what is the meaning of this? --> 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter.
[06:04] <JuNeX> i have restarted my system many time already and still having this error when sharing
[06:04] <Ant13> Jordan_U: it's supposed to be a linux problem, since it happens after i installed ubuntu, and generally after grub2 was introduced
[06:05] <MTecknology> JuNeX: is that from your windows box? I've never seen that in linux
[06:05] <JuNeX> its in my ubuntu
[06:05] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You've had Ubuntu make Windows unbootable multiple times before?
[06:05] <sacarlson> Ant13: did you use the windows installer to install ubuntu?  it's called wubi
[06:05] <Ant13> Jordan_U: since 9.10
[06:05] <MTecknology> rajvi: launchpad.net/ubuntu is where ubuntu manages bugs; if you search for the bug, it might already exist
[06:06] <rajvi> i searched it does not exist
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So every time you've installed Ubuntu since 9.10 it has taken what was a working Windows install and made it unbootable?
[06:06] <jordan_> brightspark, i got it, i entered conky in my decorations window and messed it up
[06:06] <jordan_> i got them back now
[06:06] <JuNeX> @MTecknology i have right click the folder i want to share and after a click on the create button this error comes out
[06:06] <brightspark> jordan_: glad to hear it
[06:07] <jordan_> brightspark, do u know how to get rid of the shadow outline around conky
[06:07] <Ant13> Jordan_U : history since 9.10 = install windows / boot windows / install ubuntu / boot ubuntu and update it / after restart windows would only go to loading screen then restart
[06:07] <Ant13> Jordan_U : this happened with every version since 9.10
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Did you use manual partitioning or automatic?
[06:08] <jordan_> brightspark,  haha nvm, i got it, entered conky in the shadow box
[06:08] <Ant13> Jordan_U: both, also used separate boot partition in my tries
[06:08] <jordan_> and the annoying shadow went away
[06:08] <brightspark> jordan_:  good again!
[06:08] <jordan_> thanks a lot all
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Ant13: What version of Windows?
[06:08] <sacarlson> Ant13: did you install ubuntu with a livecd boot or did you install from withing windows?
[06:08] <jordan_> goodnight
[06:09] <ericy> Ant13: Did you install from ubuntu live-cd (you booted from the cd)?
[06:09] <Ant13> Jordan_U: from xp to 7
[06:09] <Ant13> ericy: from ubuntu live cd (live mode) , from ubuntu desktop cd (install) , from ubuntu alterate (only install)
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Ant13: All on the same computer?
[06:09] <Ant13> Jordan_U: yes, you need details about my computer?
[06:10] <ericy> Ant13: Or did you, from within windows, run wubi.exe?
[06:10] <Ant13> ericy: tried it too, wubi works, but by the time i install it on a separate partition (hence neither side by side nor  as app) windows wont boot
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: if you are not in a hurry i can fetch my old output from ubuntu forums, assuming its still there
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: else it would take me abit, switch pc and so on
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I'm not in too much of a hurry.
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: perfect
[06:11] <Ant13> Jordan_U: and thanks for your time
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome.
[06:12] <weia> Ant13: do you know what an mbr is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[06:12] <Ant13> Jordan_U: partition table was slightly different back then, but i think that since it doesnt boot if there is something wrong its there since then
[06:12] <needlez> hi was wondering if someone could explain if I can or how to set it to log passwords for login and if I can set an amount of times attempted before complete lock down for a set time?
[06:13] <sacarlson> Ant13: have you tried providing us info with http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/  with that info we might get a clue as to why it could of happened
[06:13] <Ant13> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580018/ here it is
[06:13] <Ant13> weia: yes i do why?
[06:14] <brightspark> needlez: try the steps at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024263
[06:15] <weia> Ant13: looks like grub2's mbr code is incompatible with windows. use another.
[06:16] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: i said it, it happened lol, did you say anything?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Ant13: There you installed Ubuntu in a partition closer to the beginning of the drive than Windows, which is not done by the automatic partitioner. 1:It looks like it changed the partition number for Windows which Windows doesn't handle very well 2: It means that Windows (rather than Ubuntu) will be vulnerable to BIOS bugs where the BIOS can't properly handle large drives.
[06:16] <sacarlson> Ant13: I think what it might be is that windows likes to be in the first partition,  in your case you have it installed at sda2.  you would think it should work but in the future I would try install it in sda1 and see if you have better luck
[06:17] <Ant13b> Jordan_U, Sacarlson : that was one of my tries, i often install win in sda1 and ubuntu in sda2-3 sorry if that was incorrect, it was by the time i asked on ubuntu forums
[06:18] <Ant13b> Jordan_U : booting from windows dvd and using bootrec /fixboot and chkdsk fixes it (at times)
[06:18] <crlcan81> gaaah
[06:18] <crlcan81> what the flying..
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If possible, to make things easier to debug, could you do a standard Windows install (all defaults) and a standard Ubuntu install (using automatic partititioning but obviously choosing to keep Windows)?
[06:20] <weia> Ant13: when you install ubuntu it should let you choose between a) install grub on mbr (like /dev/sda) b) install grub on linux partition (like /dev/sda2). if you pick b) you can later use any multibooting mbr code to chainload sda2. if you pick a) you might be stuck with grub
[06:20] <AcrimoniousGoron> I installed the ubuntu studio package into ubuntu 10.10 and when I open fonrforge it opens in a really tiny window. even if i maximize it the folders look like the size they would be on a 2" screen
[06:21] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: depends, are you asking me if i could do it generally (then yes) or asking me to do it right now?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: I'm hoping that you could do it now or some time later and I could follow up via email or on a bug report. If there is a bug I'm going to do what I can to find it and get it fixed.
[06:22] <panfist> i could boot the 10.10 livecd with 'nomodeset' boot option, but now that i've installed it and tried to boot of the disk, it hangs right after "checking battery status"
[06:22] <Ant13b> weia: tried both of them
[06:22] <Ant13b> weia: even though its rather odd that prior to 9.10 it used to work (9.10 added grub2)
[06:23] <AcrimoniousGoron> I installed the ubuntu studio package into ubuntu 10.10 and when I open fonrforge it opens in a really tiny window. even if i maximize it the folders look like the size they would be on a 2" screen
[06:23] <sacarlson> Ant13b: I don't see anything from the bootscript that would make it not work.  I'm sure you hold shift and try the windows boot and that must be where you see the error
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: bootrec /fixboot is needed when the beginning of your Windows system partition is changed (which shouldn't happen with a default Ubuntu install).
[06:23] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: it would take a while but yes i may do, windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 would be fine? and what kind of informations would you need? (just to know what to get)
[06:24] <Ant13b> sacarlson: im rather ignorant about windows, didnt even know holding shift would do anything so i never did
[06:25] <sacarlson> Ant13b: holding shift will get you control of the grub2 loader so you can choose what you want to boot
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Windows 7 would be ideal. The output of boot info script would include everything I can think of.
[06:25] <weia> Ant13b: you picked b) and it broke windows?
[06:25] <v_v> j #debian
[06:25] <Ant13b> sacarlson: ok got it , its from grub, thought you meant once booted windows, in that case i choose win from there and it crashes
[06:25] <Ant13b> weia: both did
[06:25] <mean> what is lo that ifconfig display?
[06:26] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: sure, getting what i need, do i have to use desktop cd or would alternate be the same (i prefer using alternate due to graphic card issues but if you say desktop ill go for it
[06:27] <brightspark> mean: loopback
[06:27] <weia> Ant13b: after you pick b) and you make the windows partition the "active" partition again, it should boot unharmed (no grub screen showing)
[06:27] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: it just came to my mind, if i remove ubuntu or just /fixmbr everything will work normally, may just be a useless info
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: The alternate install would be fine.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: That last bit of information is very useful.
[06:27] <Ant13b> weia: active?
[06:28] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: what one? the fixmbr thing i just told you?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes.
[06:28] <weia> Ant13b: any partition editor lets you designate one of the four primary mbr partitions as "active"
[06:28] <Ant13b> weia: oh yes right, i got you, doesnt work though
[06:28] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: What happens if you don't remove the Ubuntu partition but just run fixmbr?
[06:29] <Guest48619> ke hongo
[06:29] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: grub wont show
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: But Windows does boot then?
[06:29] <panfist> if i have an installation of 32 bit ubuntu is there a way to mark all of my packages so i can install them in a new 64 bit installation?
[06:30] <mean> brightspark, i knew it short for loopback,but what does it use?
[06:30] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: flawlessly not even slown up as you would expect from it
[06:30] <Ant13b> *slown down
[06:30] <mean> i couldnt google right now...
[06:31] <Guest48619> why
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Ok, can you get the machine in this state fairly easily?
[06:31] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: pardon?
[06:31] <sacarlson> Ant13b: I am assuming that ubuntu does boot ok am I wrong?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Can you get things setup so that the Ubuntu partition is still there but you have run fixboot /mbr so that Windows just boots?
[06:32] <Ant13b> sacarlson: depends where we were, install windows then install ubuntu and use ubuntu? yes ubuntu has no problems at all, even after i /fixboot it boots ok works ok no problems, if i fixmbr grub doesnt show
[06:32] <weia> Ant13b: 1) zero out first 1mb of disk; 2) install windows in sda1; 3) install ubuntu in sda2, careful to install grub to sda2 (not sda); 4) make sda1 the active partition; 5) no grub menu shows, the computer boots right into windows, and it's broken?? i don't believe it
[06:32] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: are you asking me to do it right now? partition table is a lil messed but things are actually that way (i needed windows to update my phone so i had to /fixmbr)
[06:33] <Ant13b> weia: if i do it that way grub shows but if i choose windows it will crash
[06:33] <victorhugo289> hello
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Great. Can you burn a Super GRUB2 Disk CD or install grub to a flash drive for some testing?
[06:34] <brightspark> mean: I'm not a big network techie but from what I understand it lets the computer recieve messages it sends itself, which is more secure than some other methods.
[06:34] <victorhugo289> guys, I have a problem, I need to resize a FAT-32 partition, I want to grow it bigger
[06:34] <sacarlson> Ant13b: and you never changed to sequence or point your bios to boot from something other than sda ?
[06:34] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: if you are goin to ask me to install grub, wouldnt the alternate ubuntu cd be the same? (im just guessing)
[06:34] <victorhugo289> But what I need to know is...
[06:34] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: No, it uses isolinux.
[06:35] <Ant13b> sacarlson: bios can boot either from cd or hd or usb, i cant change it
[06:35] <victorhugo289> It is currently 34.5 Gigabyte long, I need to grow it to about 50
[06:35] <victorhugo289> But I'm not sure if the block size will be afected!!
[06:35] <mean> brightspark, thx
[06:35] <victorhugo289> Does Fat-32 use the same block size for 50 GB as it does for 34.5????
[06:35] <sacarlson> Ant13b: oh and did you install with usb flash disk?
[06:36] <victorhugo289> Does Fat-32 use the same block size for 50 GB as it does for 34.5????
[06:36] <Ant13b> Jordan_U : sorry im lost, im out of burners actually may you explain t a lil further? (never used supergrub2)
[06:36] <Ant13b> sacarlson: all from dvd/cd to hd
[06:36] <brightspark> mean: no problem at all
[06:36] <misbach_> askum ubuntuers
[06:36] <victorhugo289> I'm afraid it could expand the block size and destroy my files.
[06:37] <Jyoti> how do i create vxfs filesystem on my system? mkfs -t vxfs... what package do I need to install?
[06:37] <nixjr> how do i output the "load average" like in top, but only the load average, none of that other stuff?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: What I would like to do is now that you're in a configuration where you know that the Windows side of things is setup correctly, to try booting Windows from grub (without installing grub to the internal hard drive, instead installing it to a CD/USB drive).
[06:37] <brightspark> victorhugo289: anytime you fiddle with partitions, you ought to back stuff up.
[06:38] <mykal> hi all. i know this might not be the place, but getting ubuntu to stream to xbax via ushare. anyone here happen to have it working???
[06:38] <weia> Ant13b: oh well. then something on the linux side _insists_ on overwriting the mbr bootcode. you could inspect snapshots of the mbr at various points to catch the violator.
[06:38] <overrider> I am having trouble with my 10.04 samba installation. How can i completely remove it, then reinstall it? apt-get purge does not do it, because it leaves /etc/samba and other files in place. Manually removing those also bad, because then a reinstall will not recreate those default files. What gives? Thanks
[06:38] <Ant13b> Jordan_U: probably it doesnt matter, but to fetch something from my old ubuntu install i used wubi, gone from win bootloader to grub and booted into linux (supposed to work and so it did) would it be the same if instead of choosing linux from there id choose linux (i have wubi installed as app)
[06:39] <brightspark> victorhugo289: but I have shrunk and moved FAT32 partitions without problems.  (never grown one, sorry)
[06:39] <victorhugo289> I know @brightspark, and I'm prepared for the worst, but I've been very lucky so far.
[06:39] <Ant13b> weia: grub2 bullying windows lol
[06:39] <victorhugo289> Grow and shrink without problems???
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes, working with Wubi's grub will do just fine.
[06:39] <victorhugo289> oh thanks
[06:39] <victorhugo289> That sounds like what I need to hear
[06:40] <dustin> anyone got time to do some linux 1 on 1 with me i could really use someone's help/maybe connect and do some desktop help if anyone has the time id really be forever in a person's debt
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If you press 'c' at the grub menu you will get to the grub shell. Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC (with another machine) at the same time?
[06:40] <mean> there are two kernel in my unbuntu  ,but it  start with <IP_ADDRESS> as default,how could i switch to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:40] <mykal> what you need dustin, just a quick howto?
[06:41] <Ant13> Jordan_U: disconnected again, mind repeating if you replied?
[06:42] <mykal> ok, so no xbox streamers here. i think the big issue is that xbox creates a key that needs to go into the upnp somewhere. any ideas
[06:42] <brightspark> mean: do you have startup-manager in you system/admin menu?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: Yes, working with Wubi's grub will do just fine.
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13b: If you press 'c' at the grub menu you will get to the grub shell. Can you be at the grub shell and on IRC (with another machine) at the same time?
[06:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: fantastic, let me fetch the laptop
[06:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: yes, actually i have alot of pc available lol
[06:44] <Ant13> Jordan_U: again, if i disconnect its surely my isp playing with me lol
[06:44] <dustin> so anyone know alot about mudlibs thats on right now ?
[06:44] <weia> Ant13b: looks like grub2's chainloading into windows from the grub menu is plainly broken. i think windows has a fixmbr or so, and i think you can get windows into shape so it lets you choose between windows and grub at boot.
[06:44] <mean> brightspark, i didnt find it . is it the default software?
[06:44] <schock> any args for/against 'Activate Serial ATA RAID device' on fresh 10.10 install?
[06:45] <Ant13> weia: that wouldnt be secure though
[06:45] <weia> Ant13: what kind of security?
[06:45] <brightspark> mean: I honestly don't recall perfectly, but I believe it was something I got out of synaptic.
[06:46] <Ant13> weia: you have to forgive me im a lil sleepy, but i think you meant using windows bootloader to load linux, wouldnt that be risky if windows got compromised?
[06:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: ok im there, turn pc on, choose ubuntu from windows loader (wubi) then it gets me to grub and i choose windows again?
[06:47] <brightspark> mean: the package is called startupmanager (without a hyphen).  You could probably apt-get it if you choose.
[06:47] <dustin> anyone know how to run a mudblib deal?
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Ant13: That's the easiest test, yes.
[06:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol it brins me back to win loader
[06:47] <cosmo> I know in win7 I can link folders to my library folders like video or music, can I do the same in ubuntu and if so how?
[06:47] <Ant13> *brings
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Ant13: That's expected, all grub ever does is chainload the Windows bootloader.
[06:48] <Ant13> Jordan_U: and it restarts
[06:48] <Ant13> Jordan_U: it just restarted after win logo
[06:48] <weia> Ant13: yes, that's what i meant. if windows is compromised, then so is your linux partition if the malware author wants that. the question which bootloader is loading which is a sham.
[06:49] <Ant13> weia: i dont get the last statement "the question which bootloader is loading which is a sham."
[06:49] <mean> brightspark, it works ,thx a lot:)
[06:49] <weia> Ant13: it means it has nothing to do with security
[06:50] <larious> Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Ant13: If Windows is compromised then it can write to anywhere on the drive, so you can't completely trust even your Ubuntu partition at that point.
[06:50] <Ant13> weia: oh
[06:50] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:50] <Ant13> Jordan_U: thats what i meant lol
[06:50] <brightspark> mean: no problem.  I hope it continues to work well.
[06:51] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:51] <Ant13> Jordan_U: by the way i just retried, still goes from win loader to grub, again to win loader and then nowhere
[06:51] <root__> hi this is needlez can the person who linked me to that page previously relink me to it?? forgot to save it
[06:51] <larious>  Anybody can help me with my huawei USB modem intalling on ubuntu 10.04 tls.... please brothers i need to go onine with my modem
[06:51] <danial> salam
[06:52] <Ant13> larious: branded key?
[06:52] <larious> danaial: Asalamu Aleku brother
[06:52] <Ant13> Jordan_U: after that restart booting straight from windows works
[06:52] <larious> Ant13; EC226
[06:52] <brightspark> needlez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024263
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Do you have a flash drive handy?
[06:53] <gua> is there a place that outlines the differences between the desktop 10.04.1 and 10.04.2?
[06:53] <dustin> anyone got any ideas?
[06:53] <dustin> okay here's the deal folks, i got this mudlib file in the home/folder and i need to run it through the terminal but i got no idea how to run a program from there anyone spare some time on this issue who is fluenant in linux?
[06:53] <larious> Ant13; EC226
[06:53] <Ant13> Jordan_U: no, not ready, would have t backup and format
[06:53] <larious> Ant13: EC226
[06:53] <Ant13> larious: have you tried from network manager to go on mobile connection after key has been plugged for 5 minutes?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> gua: You can look at the changelogs of all of the packages. Point releases are just releases containing the most recent updates to that point,
[06:54] <brightspark> dustin: if you right-click the file, is it marked as executable under permissions?
[06:54] <Ant13> Jordan_U : want me to?
[06:54] <gua> Jordan_U: hmm. just it'd be nice to see what the big changes are so i know if it's worth downloading for what i want to do with it that day
[06:54] <larious> Ant13: Yah but it request for APN which my modem can find automatically by win xp
[06:55] <Ant13> larious: for apn informations you should either contact your provider or just take a look at their site, what operator are you with?
[06:56] <weia> Ant13: in conclusion.  boot -> windows -> grub -> linux -> ok.  boot -> windows -> windows -> ok.  boot -> grub -> windows -> no no!
[06:56] <larious> Multilinks telecom Blue broadband
[06:56] <larious> Ant13:  Multilinks telecom Blue broadband
[06:56] <Ant13> weia: also boot -> windows -> grub -> windows -> windows -> crash
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Ant13: There is only one bug in grub that I can remember that has symptoms like this (though it was never actually triggered in normal use and I don't see why it would be triggered now). Since it's been fixed in grub 1.99 rc1 I was hoping you could test grub 1.99 rc1 somehow.
[06:57] <weia> Ant13: yeah, don't let grub get in the way
[06:57] <larious> anybody from Nigeria
[06:57] <Ant13> larious: you should contact them or copy the apn from windwos
[06:58] <nbros652> Anybody out there... I have an server set up with webmin/usermin. I also have samba shares set up. Here's the problem. When I change the password for a user from the "Users and groups" page, I can access samba folders with the local user accounts. When I change the passwords from usermin, I am no longer able to access the samba shares. Any idea why?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You wouldn't need to reformat the flash drive to install grub on it. grub2 supports pretty much every filesystem under the sun.
[06:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its available for natty, i may download it and install on maverick
[06:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i would need to format it to remove the stuff i have on it lol
[06:59] <nbros652> Also, the password hashes are quite different between the two tools.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Why would you need to remove anything from it?
[06:59] <Metaxa> anyone here have experience with GMABooster?
[06:59] <larious> Ant13: How do I copy from window?
[06:59] <Ant13> Jordan_U: from the key? its full
[06:59] <zruty> On xubuntu, can I do everything I can do on ubuntu, too?
[06:59] <mean> brightspark, i used startupmanage to switch,and restart but it ditnt work
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You need less than 5 meg of free space for grub.
[06:59] <Ant13> larious: in the key you re supposed to find an autoconfigurationblabla file, install it , go on key's control panel and get infos about apn, i suggest though to call your operator
[06:59] <joeb_> can you watch netflix on ubuntu
[07:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: oh yes right didnt think of that
[07:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: so am i going with usb key or installing it from maverick?
[07:00] <mean> brightspark, it still started without option...
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Ant13: While it's normally not a good idea to use packages from one release (especially a development one) on another, I know that the grub-pc and grub-common packages from natty are safe to install in maverick.
[07:01] <Ant13> Jordan_U: in this case, where should i install it? in wubi or in "native" ubuntu?
[07:01] <Metaxa> joeb_:You'll need to run virtualBox and have windows installed due to Silverlight only being available on mac and windows
[07:01] <larious> Ant13: Please you will need to guide me on how to copy that
[07:01] <joeb_> Metaxa- have you tried it ? does it work ?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Native Ubuntu. There are enough packaging issues with Wubi and grub that I wouldn't risk installing the newer grub packages within Wubi.
[07:02] <Ant13> larious: since i'm not with your operator it would be hard for me , since most of those configurators are proprietary and vary from operator to operator, you should ask their technical support for more details, unless someone gets u to automatically find it
[07:03] <Metaxa> joeb_: Yes, Oracle VirtualBox, Install windows in that and run firefox, works just fine on a decent machine
[07:03] <danielpaciran> somebody indonesia...?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Note that just updating the grub-pc package triggers grub-install to be run on whatever install devices are configured.
[07:03] <Ant13>  Jordan_U: oh yes right, if i install grub it should write to mbr and boot partition and make things like i just formatted, thats what we want right?
[07:03] <Diverdude> ahhhhhhhhhh i love the smell of napalm in the morning.... smells like victory!
[07:04] <joeb_> Diverdude- ?
[07:04] <syn-ack> Diverdude, Great movie, but lets try to keep it on topic, please.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes, that would work fine. I wouldn't say it's just like you formatted though.
[07:04] <Metaxa> joeb_: I'm running a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mhz celeron mobile with 2.5 gb ram, works just fine on low level dsl
[07:05] <syn-ack> joeb_, he made a reference to Apocalypse Now.
[07:05] <joeb_> :P
[07:05] <danielpaciran> fROM INDONES'IA???????????????
[07:05] <joeb_> Metaxa- i dual boot windows i will just watch it in windows
[07:06] <devkhadka> how to get current time stamp
[07:06] <Diverdude> syn-ack, yep, you guessed it :D
[07:06] <Metaxa> joeb_: or you could do that
[07:06] <danielpaciran> dont say windows please
[07:06] <devkhadka> current  timestamp in bash script
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !indonesia | danielpaciran
[07:06] <weia> Jordan_U: windows could always try to detect the presence of grub in the load chain and refuse to work. that's an unfixable situation. whatever grub's authors are doing to fix the user experience, the next windows live update can break it again.
[07:07] <Metaxa> joeb_: I run dual monitors off this laptop, have virtual box on one and my normal ubuntu on the other
[07:07] <Gryllida> how do I install mono 2.8 ? latest one in the repo is 2.6.7 only
[07:07] <syn-ack> Gryllida, you can either try looking for a development PPA or you'd probably have to grab the source from the mono project.
[07:08] <cosmo> I know in win7 I can link folders to my library folders without copying the files to it so it is easy to access media from various folders and drives like video or music, can I do the same in ubuntu and if so how?
[07:08] <Gryllida> syn-ack, I didn't find a ppa
[07:08] <Jordan_U> weia: I've never heard of Windows overwriting the MBR on upgrades (though Photoshop and other software with idiotic DRM is known to write to the boot track all the time). And I've seen no evidence that Windows has overwritten ant13's mbr (except when he told it to) so I don't see how that's relevant.
[07:08] <Gryllida> cosmo, nautilus, add to bookmark
[07:08] <syn-ack> Gryllida, you'll probably have to grab the source, deps and headers and compile it yourself then
[07:09] <Diverdude> ppa=personal what? archieve ?
[07:09] <syn-ack> Personal Package Archive.
[07:09] <Diverdude> oh yes ofc
[07:09] <cosmo> Gryllida, thanks
[07:09] <Gryllida> sure
[07:10] <mean> I couldnt use startupmanage to switch kernel ,who can help me out?
[07:10] <brightspark> mean:   Hm, that's not the intended behavior.  you can try renaming files in /etc/grub.d until they are in alphanumeric order matching the order you want to see in GRUB
[07:10] <Prinler> Anyone have any experience with Mediatomb? When i click on my media in windows all it does is send me the file. I want it to stream not just "host" files....
[07:10] <weia> Jordan_U: we're not talking about someone overwriting the mbr. it's about windows refusing to boot (intentionally or not) if grub was in the load chain.
[07:11] <mean> brightspark, i thought you have gone
[07:11] <Jordan_U> weia: Then I don't see what Windows Live has to do with anything.
[07:11] <mean> brightspark, i try it now
[07:11] <brightspark> mean: sorry wrong directory!  don't fiddle with that, I'll get the right one in a minute
[07:12] <weia> Jordan_U: why not? you suggested to get a new version of grub to fix this. i said don't ever let grub get into the load chain if you intend to boot windows. you're not getting what Windows Live has to do with that?
[07:12] <mean> brightspark,  in /boot/grub ?
[07:12] <mean> brightspark,  grub.cfg?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> weia: If this is the bug that I am thinking about then upgrading will be a permanent fix.
[07:13] <weia> Jordan_U: upgrading _what_? grub? it can be _outpaced_ by the next Windows Live update. still don't get it?
[07:15] <brightspark> mean: not quite, your changes will be overwritten if you edit that.
[07:15] <Jordan_U> weia: Yes, update grub. This is a bug in grub that has affected all versions of Windows since Vista, it's just that it's a bug in features that are never used in normal situations (hence why it has lasted so long, it affected almost no one).
[07:16] <Jordan_U> weia: Features of grub that is.
[07:16] <brightspark> mean: if you edit /etc/default/grub you can change the starting position of the cursor
[07:16] <abe_> Hi guys, Does anyone knows what the term lkstbishnis stand for ? they say it has something to do with computer parts
[07:16] <schock> hi all. so i have a fresh install of 10.10 on vpcz. Now a lot of forums recommend using natty kernel to solve various driver problems. what is the easiest way to install this?
[07:17] <Jordan_U> !ot | abe_
[07:17] <larious> anybody from nigeria here using linux
[07:19] <weia> Jordan_U: i'm getting your point now. thanks for explaining.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> weia: You're welcome.
[07:21] <cosmo> nope that didnt do it, nautilus trys to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in catagories and sub-catagories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has catagories
[07:21] <cosmo> like documents, music, video, etc.)
[07:21] <Ant13> back
[07:22] <brightspark> mean: Okay, so by changing the value of GRUB_DEFAULT, you can make the cursor start in a different position.  0 for the top, 1 for the next, and so forth.
[07:22] <Ant13> erm did Jordan_ U leave?
[07:23] <brightspark> mean: then run update-grub
[07:23] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No.
[07:23] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol what the heck you dont show up in the list, o well empathy's misteries
[07:23] <Ant13> Jordan_U: connection went so instead of taking more of your time i went straight to get grub
[07:24] <XChats> good day, any idea how to connect twitter from terminl? thnaks
[07:24] <Ant13> Jordan_U: quick dirty way, changing apt sources
[07:24] <Ant13> Jordan_U: now  a debconf window asks if i want to chainload from menu.list or use a linux command line
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Ok. Select "yes" to chainloading from menu.lst. That dialog is only supposed to come up when you are upgrading from grub legacy to grub2.
[07:25] <rajvi> hello anyone using Quicken 2011 on 10.10
[07:25] <Ant13> Jordan_U: may be the case, as i said before i tried using grub legacy too, would that compromise what we re doing?
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You *will* need to run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" before rebooting though.
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No, it doesn't hurt anything.
[07:26] <Ant13> Jordan_U: doing it
[07:26] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its now installing, gladly wont require internet again, or im jumping out of the window lol
[07:27] <rajvi> Hello all anyone using Quicken 2011 on 10.10 returns me a com error  it crashes :(
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Make sure that your drive is selected as an install device, and *no* partitions are selected (use space bar to check / uncheck a device in the list).
[07:27] <Ant13> Jordan_U: pardon?
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You should get to a dialog asking where grub should be installed when you run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[07:28] <larious> Ant13: is it possible to get the apn by myself cos here they dont know much about linux or apn stuff
[07:28] <rajvi> Quicken on 10.10 ??
[07:28] <Ant13> larious: apn doesnt depend on system
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: got it, no devices selected, go on?
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: nevermind lol
[07:29] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i can choose sda or sda3, should i go sda?
[07:29] <luckymurali> hi all
[07:29] <larious> Ant13: I know but they believe that I want to steal from there network through the apn
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Ant13: sda.
[07:29] <luckymurali> where can i check for OS layout and configuration??
[07:30] <rajvi> Is Quicken 2011 running on 10.10 successfully via WINE ??
[07:30] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: Layout and configuration of what specifically?
[07:30] <Diverdude> some update that has caused that volume up/down buttons no longer works. This is the case both on my lenovo T61p laptop (running 10.04) and my mediacenter with wireless keyboard connected (running 10.10). Does anybody else have the same problem?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> !appdb | rajvi
[07:30] <Ant13> larious: its impossible to do so lol
[07:31] <Ant13> Jordan_U: t said grub been removed but configuration files were preserved, should i delete them?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Ant13: It's up to you. Doesn't matter much either way.
[07:31] <rajvi> thanks
[07:31] <Jordan_U> rajvi: You're welcome.
[07:31] <Ant13> Jordan_U: next time they wont be there anyway so no matter, should i restart now?
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes.
[07:32] <Guest84683> Can someone help me get a 2-monitor set up working?
[07:32] <Breach> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 desktop on an Acer Aspire One. I havent used linux in ages, what is the best antivirus app?
[07:33] <Ant13> Jordan_U: did they put back the splashimages? O_O
[07:33] <Metaxa> Drak2: Desktop or laptop
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !virus | Breach
[07:33] <Breach> ahh.. ok
[07:33] <Dark2> Desktop
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Ant13: What do you mean?
[07:33] <larious> Ant13: I try to install the dashboard of the network and it through wine but wine cant install FILES
[07:33] <admin0> hi .. I can do fdisk -l /dev/sda and see my windows partitions, but when I try to mount, it says /dev/sda1 does not exisit.. what is the correct syntax for makedev ?
[07:33] <Ant13> Jordan_U: the grub window actually has a colour, used to be white and black
[07:34] <Ant13> Jordan_U: anyways i booted into ubuntu, what should i do now? (restarted and all)
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Try booting Windows.
[07:34] <Metaxa> Drak2: Are you using a video card with 2 outputs?
[07:34] <Ant13> Jordan_U: crossing my fingers
[07:34] <larious> Ant13: Wine cant install win DLL and Win information files
[07:35] <Ant13> larious: im sorry, i dont know much of it, its supposed to work without anything, you should retry with your operator
[07:35] <larious> ok
[07:35] <Dark2> Metaxa: Yes, it has 2 DVI outputs.  Please file a bug report in the upstream grub bug tracker. If at all possible reproduce the bug with a simpler setup as explaining your current setup properly will distract from the actual problem at hand.
[07:37] <Metaxa> Dark2: What Model card do you have?
[07:37] <iiicyg> XChats, bitlebee + weechat.
[07:37] <Ant13> Jordan_U: actually i may have an idea
[07:37] <Dark2> ATI HD5850
[07:37] <Ant13> Jordan_U: do you happen to know if grub legacy works on aptio bios? (uefi)
[07:38] <XChats> iiicyg: ok ill try to install it now , thanks
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Grub legacy does not work with uefi.
[07:38] <Ant13> Jordan_U: owned lol
[07:38] <iiicyg> XChats, also there are special terminal twitter clients.
[07:38] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i never had to reconfigure grub legacy, what should i do after i installed it? (on this pc legacy used to work)
[07:39] <iiicyg> XChats, but i don't like there.
[07:39] <XChats> iiicyg what would be the best you can recommends?
[07:40] <iiicyg> XChats, weechat + bitlebee daemon. (http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoTwitter)
[07:40] <XChats> iiicyg: ok, thank you very much
[07:41] <iiicyg> You are welcome.
[07:41] <cosmo> I tried bookmarks in nautilus and it tries to add the whole drive, I have video, audio and documents stored in folders on other drives in categories and sub-categories in win 7 I could just add them to library folders in explorer without having to copy them to the main drive this made accessing them convenient and I was hoping to do the same in ubuntu but not sure how (would like to have links to them in the home folder where it already has cat
[07:41] <cosmo> egories like documents, music, video, etc.) any ideas or suggestions?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I need to get some sleep so I don't really have time to walk you through it tonight.
[07:42] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i have one more question, which doesnt really matter now, have you ever dualbooted windows and ubuntu 9.10+?
[07:42] <Ant13> Jordan_U: oh sure its no problem, i'd care to say thanks or all the time u spent with me trying to fix it
[07:43] <Ant13> *i'd like
[07:43] <DSx> What's a ubuntu?
[07:43] <iiicyg> kk
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Yes I have. Your experience is very abnormal.
[07:43] <DSx> Guise help me.
[07:43] <DSx> What's a ubuntu
[07:43] <DSx> Btw Has anyone heard about japan
[07:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol so you think on a dell with aptio bios it would dual boot fine? (actually its a compaq)
[07:43] <DSx> Hope those guys are okay.
[07:43] <DSx> I need someone to make my nikes.
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome. The best thanks though would be a good bug report :)
[07:43] <Ant13> Jordan_U: *actually its a compaq i tried in
[07:44] <iiicyg> Wow.
[07:44] <Ant13> Jordan_U: sure, if you could give me some hint what details i should give them i will, launchpad or somewhere else?
[07:45] <Ant13> Jordan_U: bootinfoscript // pc model // pc bios model would be enough?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Ant13: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=grub . Those things plus an explanation that running *only* fixboot /mbr (or whatever the command is for restoring the mbr with Windows 7) allows Windows to boot successfully.
[07:47] <Diverdude> some update that has caused that volume up/down buttons no longer works. This is the case both on my lenovo T61p laptop (running 10.04) and my mediacenter with wireless keyboard connected (running 10.10). Does anybody else have the same problem?
[07:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: copied that, could you make a guess about that thing i asked before? (if a dell with aptio uefi would boot fine with 7 + default 10.10 install)
[07:47] <Ant13> Jordan_U: actually i use phoenix bios lol
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So what I would do is run boot info script now, run fixboot /mbr and nothing else, run boot info script again, confirm that you can now boot Windows successfully, and post both boot info script outputs with an explanation that that's what you did.
[07:49] <Ant13> Jordan_U: for how long it will take i think it would be better make things clean, wipe out the hd and do as you just said, so they wont find mess
[07:49] <jiltdil> how to change my ip through command line?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Ant13: I would stay away from [U]EFI at the moment, even if you get grub-efi working you'll likely have problems with graphics drivers in linux. And there isn't really much of an advantage to [U]EFI over BIOS.
[07:50] <phoenixsampras> my hibernation and suspend is broken
[07:50] <luckymurali> Jordan_U, for OS
[07:50] <aureianimus> can anyone tell me this: if i want to create a persistent usb-ubuntu, i need to specify the size of the persistent file. Is that file just for OS-settings or can i also save files in there?
[07:50] <Ant13> Jordan_U: i know that but my new laptop uses uefi and id like to put ubuntu into it (just windows on a pc would make me never use it lol)
[07:50] <luckymurali> I am really not able to understand what is meant by OS layout and configuration so I am asking here
[07:51] <jiltdil>  how to change my ip through command line?
[07:51] <Ant13> Jordan_U: if it helps is certified ubuntu hardware, dell vostro 3700
[07:52] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: ifconfig eth0 10.0.500.1 netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Ant13: While I've installed grub-efi before I've never tested what the Ubuntu installer does when installing to an EFI based system. Make sure you grab the 64 bit Ubuntu CD and the worst that can happen is that it doesn't install grub-efi automatically and you'll have to ask for help on that from #grub. (Just trying to clarify that installing grub-pc on a system with EFI firmware will not hurt anything).
[07:54] <Ant13> Jordan_U: so i cant use a 32 bit version? :O
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No, with EFI the Firmware and the OS need to be the same architecture (unless you do really ugly hacks in the kernel like Apple does in XNU but is not likely to be accepted in Linux).
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Ant13: So if it
[07:56] <Ant13> Jordan_U: great ....... -.-  oh well better than nothing, so worst thing that may happen is linux not working? it shouldnt kill the pc right?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Ant13: ... So if it's 64 bit firmware (which it almost certainly is) you'll need to install 64 bit Ubuntu.
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Ant13: Correct.
[07:57] <Xunie`> During the installation, I selected that I wanted an encrypted home partition.
[07:57] <Ant13> Jordan_U: last question, more of a personal one, you actually use windows?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Ant13: No.
[07:57] <Ant13> Jordan_U: lol ok nevermind, this isnt related to ubuntu, just to windows ESD os i wont bother here
[07:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U: thank you again for all your time and all the help you gave me, as soon as i wake up abit im going to wipe the hd and file a bug report, hoping other compaq cq60 415sl owners wont have to use just 1 system
[07:58] <Ant13> Jordan_U good night when you go (i think you said you were going soon) and thanks again
[07:58] <Jordan_U> Ant13: You're welcome.
[08:00] <Ant13> Jordan_U: its time for me to get ready, have a nice night/day
[08:01] <duepi> Hey guys, I was wondering how I get the firefox pop-up browser to show thumbnails?
[08:01] <duepi> Please?!
[08:02] <duepi> Please?
[08:02] <duepi> Anyone?
[08:03] <phoenixsampras> duepi: wha thappende?
 Hey guys, I was wondering how I get the firefox pop-up browser to show thumbnails?
[08:04] <duepi> I mean when I click 'browse' for an image in an image-upload site, or something, you know?
[08:04] <duepi> I want to be able to see the thumbnails of the images
[08:04] <phoenixsampras> duepi: what ff version?
[08:04] <duepi> how do I tell?
[08:04] <duepi> err, sec
[08:05] <duepi> 3.5 or 3.6
[08:05] <duepi> yes, 3.6.13
[08:05] <phoenixsampras> duepi: interesting, i didnt know you can see thumnails via ff
[08:06] <duepi> phoenixsampras: can you?  MS word?
[08:09] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi i just runned an update and itz frozen at "mysql" i tried "ctrl+c" to abort it but therez no way, itz just stuck there, what can i do? thanks (gnome on ubuntu 10.10)
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Yes
[08:09] <StepNjump> I hate word...
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Open Office is terrible
[08:09] <phoenixsampras> !ops
[08:09] <StepNjump> Duepi did you find out what causes that problem?
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Nope.
[08:09] <duepi> StepNjump: Bad programming?
[08:10] <StepNjump> duepi what kind of ram do you have?
[08:10] <duepi> StepNjump: 4GB ddr2
[08:10] <phoenixsampras> duepi: yeh, bugs, ask refund
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> phoenixsampras: Calm down, please. :-)
[08:10] <StepNjump> Open office works great on Win7 64.. Never had a problem with it
[08:10] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Are you mad, mate?  I have 1 GB so I thought that cld have been the problem
[08:11] <iiicyg> Troll detected.
[08:12] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Are you mad, mate? Do you need some time out?
[08:12] <duepi> StepNjump: Mine crashes when I try to open the referencing system, and a few other things
[08:12] <phoenixsampras> can somebody remove duepi?? he is offending people
[08:12] <silvery> Hi, guys. Is there any simple way to diagnose why system starts from external devices only on laptop(Acer Aspire 5350)?
[08:13] <silvery> U*10.10
[08:13] <StepNjump> duepi: I might have found something to consider http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=11311
[08:13] <StepNjump> Is your java enabled?
[08:13] <StepNjump> Mine crashes all the time duepi
[08:13] <StepNjump> It's getting worse
[08:14] <StepNjump> After some searching (unsuccessfully) I looked in Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org -> Java and found that OpenOffice had not enabled java. I enabled my JRE and everything is back to normal.
[08:14] <phoenixsampras> StepNjump: great
[08:15] <StepNjump> Was it off?
[08:15] <silvery> Ubuntu 10.10 fails to start from internal CD/DVD-rom and internal HDD, but it starts perfectly when I plug the same HDD via USB...
[08:16] <duepi> StepNjump: alright, awesome, I'll just check
[08:16] <silvery> any suggestions?
[08:16] <StepNjump> I'm trying to find it myself
[08:17] <cretsiah> silvery ... i would at the booting menu and see where it thinks the drive is
[08:17] <duepi> StepNjump: it's enabled.
[08:17] <cretsiah> look at*
[08:17] <StepNjump> shit
[08:17] <StepNjump> where did you find it?
[08:17] <weecol> !lang | stepnjump
[08:17] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[08:18] <StepNjump> oh ok, I was looking in Writer
[08:18] <duepi> StepNjump: Java?
[08:18] <silvery> crestiah: ide 0 - HDD drive (OK), ide 1 - CD\DVD drive (OK).
[08:18] <duepi> StepNjump: ahh
[08:18] <StepNjump> Try out of fun to check it off
[08:19] <ObsidianX> hey folks, how can i install 32bit sun JDK on 64 bit 10.10
[08:19] <phoenixsampras> !ops (04:08:37 AM) duepi: phoenixsampras: your mothers ass
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> phoenixsampras: /ignore is your friend.
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> Pasting it here is counterproductive.
[08:19] <duepi> phoenixsampras: Can you stop crying about it, please?
[08:20] <cretsiah> silvery not quite sure you got got what i meant?? i was meaning like if you using grub check out the menu.lst file, see if it is mapping drives
[08:20] <c0r0_> Hallo?
[08:21] <StepNjump> so far so good duepi
[08:21] <jiltdil> how to change my ip through command line?
[08:21] <duepi> StepNjump: did you enable it? mine was already enabled
[08:21] <duepi> jiltdil: you can't, call your ISP.
[08:21] <StepNjump> Yep, I think it fixed it for me
[08:21] <duepi> jiltdil: or do you mean your IP on the network?
[08:21] <jiltdil> duepi:yes
[08:21] <StepNjump> No disabled it (I know it's against what this guy says but... thought I would try it
[08:21] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: you can, ifconfig eth0 10.0.500.1 netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:22] <StepNjump> Mine too was
[08:22] <StepNjump> but now I disabled it
[08:22] <duepi> StepNjump: ahh okay I'll do that
[08:22] <jiltdil> phoenixsampras:how to unchange it?
[08:22] <StepNjump> Absolutely flawless
[08:22] <StepNjump> yesss... (I'll keep my fingers crossed)
[08:23] <duepi> StepNjump: nope, didn't help me at all
[08:23] <silvery> cretsiah: please tell me a bit more about it, just open that file or something else?
[08:23] <StepNjump> You keep crashing?
[08:23] <StepNjump> :(
[08:24] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: restart service network
[08:24] <gumus> hi al
[08:24] <gumus> all
[08:24] <jiltdil> phoenixsampras: to restatr should i to use /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:25] <gumus> i get this error while trying to insall google-earth.deb. What should I do ?  Installing package... dpkg: error processing /tmp/fileCND5uv.deb (--install):  cannot access archive: Permission denied Errors were encountered while processing:  /tmp/fileCND5uv.deb
[08:26] <phoenixsampras> jiltdil: yes
[08:26] <gumus> can anybody help?
[08:26] <phoenixsampras> gumus: seems permission problems
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR>  aylo- I'm about to kiss Windows goodbye - what version of Linux would be best suited for a nice desktop experience- low hassle on device drivers, and not limiting for development ? (eclipse and java) ?
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> ubuntu looks pretty good.
[08:27] <StepNjump> Wird duepi, it works really well here
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> I hear people say things good about debian
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> any thoughts ?
[08:27] <StepNjump> duepi let's check our java versions
[08:27] <X-windowsUSR> comments are locked in #linux.
[08:28] <gumus> phoenix: but i did it successfully before. however, software didn't run . So i tried to re-install.Now i can'T
[08:28] <StepNjump> how can I do that?
[08:28] <StepNjump> so we can compare
[08:28] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: fedora is cool, however i do use ubuntu
[08:28] <X-windowsUSR> gains with ubuntu ?
[08:28] <silvery> cretsiah: thanks for that tip
[08:28] <X-windowsUSR> will be a near first time use with *nix -
[08:29] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: im just lazzy with configs, so ubuntu is ready to go with almost anything
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> so, user friendly + good device support is nice.
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> oh.
[08:29] <hide_nba> #join #esm
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> well then - sounds like ubuntu might be it
[08:29] <X-windowsUSR> what do I need server for ?
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> say- if I want to install oracle 11g - do I need server ?
[08:30] <StepNjump> guys, how can I check what my java version is please?
[08:30] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: nah, you can install almost anything on ubuntu
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> ok then - off I go
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> any last tips I might encoutner during install ?
[08:30] <X-windowsUSR> page size ? workspace default size ?
[08:31] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: well i do have 2x 1080p monitors, i just needed to install nvidia drivers, which was a bit trickier but all fine now
[08:31] <Alex__> Hello, where can I find documentation for the Unity interface?
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> is thre a Unity3d desktop ?
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> that's nice if so
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> I always wanted a 3-d walk through desktop area - I've been playing with unity3d for a month now.
[08:32] <Alex___> hello
[08:32] <X-windowsUSR> ok phoenix. what about network security ?
[08:32] <Alex___> Is there any documentation for the unity interface?
[08:32] <chilli0> Hi, for some reason after updating a few days ago. my samba client doesn't work anymore.. I can load smaller mount partions but anything big just crashed when I load it.
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> !unity
[08:33] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: i think unity will be with ubuntu on april, next version
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> Alex___: ^^
[08:33] <Alex___> Because the bar on the left is hiding automaticly, and I dont want this
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> phoenixsampras - any thoughts on network security ? for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> does it come with a firewall ?
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> X-windowsUSR: It does.
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> is it turned on automatically ?
[08:33] <KB1JWQ> !iptables
[08:33] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: well it has selinux and iptables, which is quite secure... but i do have them disabled :P
[08:33] <X-windowsUSR> ok.
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> I just don't want to leave the front door wide open
[08:34] <maxillusionist> X-windowsUSR can implement some open source firewalls
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> last time I had to get into setting modem settings - chap etc.
[08:34] <X-windowsUSR> is that all pretty much automatic post install ?
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I'm not looking forward to editing column 9 of row 134 etc.
[08:35] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: yeh, you just use ubuntu software central to install everything, like itunes
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> oh well- it's here... Hope it works in Virtualbox
[08:35] <phoenixsampras> X-windowsUSR: yeh, trying on virtualbox
[08:35] <maxillusionist> try synaptic package manager,i guess ubuntu comes with firewall inbuilt x-windowUSR
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I wonder if VB will be slower.
[08:35] <X-windowsUSR> I hope it's okay.
[08:36] <X-windowsUSR> friend of mine used to do network security testing with virtual OS installs.
[08:36] <X-windowsUSR> will be neat to test some things I suppose.
[08:36] <maxillusionist> must be backtrack indeed ??
[08:36] <gilles> hey .. can any1 help me with  starcraft 2 ... i have teamviewer so some1 can connect and see the problem and help me .. i got teh game running , full screen only, sound works i can log in but cant play multiplayer or siungleplaye
[08:37] <maxillusionist> well i like fuzzing network protocols
[08:37] <StepNjump> duepi did you try to run Outlook 2002 under wine?
[08:37] <phoenixsampras> gilles: aint that game outfashioned?
[08:37] <X-windowsUSR> oh god- I'm leaving Windows for some CYGWIN issues, and here I'll be gaining new WINE issues - augh!
[08:37] <X-windowsUSR> ya just can't win
[08:37] <gilles> outfashionned ?>
[08:37] <gilles> its new
[08:37] <maxillusionist> try  VMware
[08:38] <phoenixsampras> vbox > vmware
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> oh ? WM for what ? *nix to run windows ?
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> I'm using vbox  - but is VM free now ?
[08:38] <maxillusionist> i run MAC snow leopard in vmware LOL
[08:38] <maxillusionist> anything
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> VM is time tested indeed
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> max- does VM cost ?
[08:38] <maxillusionist> i run android too,
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> damn - I wonder, maybe I should use VMWare over VB
[08:38] <maxillusionist> you can download from mediafire
[08:38] <X-windowsUSR> any benefits over VB ?
[08:39] <maxillusionist> virtual box is free i think
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> yes - it is.
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> VM iir used to cost .
[08:39] <Gryllida> http://pastebin.fossnet.info/index.php/view/52528690 - error during apt-get update - sources.list is here: http://pastebin.fossnet.info/index.php/view/8675698 - ideas?
[08:39] <maxillusionist> vm needs some serials
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> oh, no money right now, I'll skip that.
[08:39] <X-windowsUSR> thanks though, forgot about VM
[08:39] <maxillusionist> dude you can avail it for free if you want
[08:40] <ilea> how can i configure the  wi-fi internet conection with a whierles router i need for someone to get the internet working
[08:40] <KB1JWQ> Gryllida: Those links don't work here.
[08:40] <maxillusionist> mediafire can give you cracks
[08:40] <KB1JWQ> Er, the ones for the repo you're nailing.
[08:41] <Gryllida> hm
[08:41] <maxillusionist> http://www.mediafire.com/?rglt3ayombe
[08:41] <Gryllida> KB1JWQ, which ones?
[08:41] <duepi> StepNjump:all the ms office 2007 works under wine
[08:41] <maxillusionist> keygen for vmware
[08:41] <KB1JWQ> Gryllida: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mono-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ contains no maverick, for one.
[08:41] <ubuntu89897> i want to connect via network an ubuntu computer with a windows 7 computer but i have problems with access the data from ubuntu with samba can anybody help?
[08:42] <wizz> hi all. i was installed compiz in ubuntu 10.10 and i realize it's have less effect then 9.10. how  to get all that missed?
[08:42] <StepNjump> oh nice. thanks
[08:42] <StepNjump> oh nice thanks duepi
[08:42] <wooter> ubuntu89897, you have to turn off the workgroup only sharing on windows 7
[08:43] <wooter> makes it less secure, about the same as XP, you still have password protection
[08:43] <ilea> how to make the internet conection work with a wi-fi router?
[08:43] <ubuntu89897> wooter, how can i do that, i have made accesable an folder in "options" for "everybody" but cant acess in nautilus under "network"
[08:44] <maxillusionist> yeah why not duepi if IE8 can run then anything can run
[08:44] <Alex__> hmm
[08:44] <Alex__> i dont see any documentation for unity
[08:44] <Alex__> how to disable the hiding of the panel on the left when I maximize
[08:44] <maxillusionist> ilea which router do you use
[08:45] <Evanescence> I need help about mocp , I can not use ExecCommand2 = "rm -i %f" in mocp config , mocp display bad command.
[08:46] <duepi> maxillusionist: ms products work well under wine, they're not actually coded that badly
[08:46] <c0r0_> hai
[08:46] <duepi> maxillusionist: there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't work though
[08:46] <BezNalogov> Hello people. I'm trying to create a launcher on my gnome desktop. But it has to be executed in a terminal window. How can I make the launcher do that? The command that I want to be run in the terminal is: ssh -l myuser server1
[08:47] <Alex__> When I maximize a screen the panel hides. How to disable this? (unity)
[08:47] <duepi> Alex__: what panel?
[08:47] <acicula> BezNalogov: launch a terminal emulator first, gnome-console or xterm
[08:47] <mgolisch> BezNalogov: start some terminal app? like gnome-terminal -e "ssh foo bar"
[08:48] <BezNalogov> ok thanks
[08:49] <Gryllida> KB1JWQ, I don't even see http://ppa.launchpad.net/mono-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ in the paste of sources.list, which line is it then?
[08:49] <BezNalogov> Yes, that works. Thanks
[08:50] <maxillusionist> duepi what stuffs is it IDM
[08:50] <duepi> maxillusionist: IDM doesn't work properly, yes
[08:50] <StepNjump> duepi, you never told me your Open Office writer's version did you?
[08:50] <duepi> StepNjump: it's the latest one..
[08:50] <beecarr> how do i install gzip package through ubuntu through Ubuntu software centre, thereby ensuring correct dependencies
[08:51] <acicula> !gzip
[08:51] <ubuntu89897> anybody was able to connect windows with ubuntu and make folders accesable?
[08:51] <acicula> !gunzip
[08:51] <duepi> acicula: lol
[08:51] <acicula> hmm
[08:51] <danielpaciran> ark
[08:52] <StepNjump> Yeah duepi but which version?
[08:52] <StepNjump> Go to help and about
[08:52] <acicula> surprisingly, gzip is part of the gzip package. so apt-get install gzip should do it
[08:52] <StepNjump> And give me the build number too please
[08:52] <StepNjump> Because here it works fine so you'd think yours should work the same way duepi
[08:52] <acicula> apt-get will pull in any dependency's, though i doubt there are that many for gzip
[08:53] <phoenixsampras> who doesnt have gzip LOL
[08:53] <nbros652> ubuntu89897: search for Samba in the software center and install it
[08:53] <maxillusionist> yeah duepi i had tried as well but i guess something can be done to make it working as it is a network program and as i said if IE8 can then anything duepi
[08:53] <ilter> Hello. On 10.10 netbook edition. How can i start same application twice from tray on right?
[08:54] <StepNjump> Ah never mind duepi. It crashed again!
[08:54] <acicula> ubuntu89897: just sharing files on either platform has worked for me in the past
[08:55] <ajmal> Hai all i need to access our online dedicated server using terminal of my ubuntu os. How can i do this.
[08:56] <acicula> ajmal: you use the ssh program for this
[08:56] <c0r0_> Loooo
[08:58] <ubuntu89897> acicula, does it only work with "crosses" network cable?
[08:58] <ubuntu89897> acicula, "crossed"
[08:58] <acicula> ubuntu89897: there is no relation between the two
[08:59] <et_> I'm wondering what is the name of the little animation that the mouse pointer turns into when the system is busy doing something?
[08:59] <et_> The equivalent of the hourglass thingie in Windows.
[08:59] <ajmal> [acicula] I tried to use "ssh <username>@< server ip>"  But i got given error message.  ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[09:00] <duepi> ajmal: iptables problem, mayb
[09:00] <duepi> e
[09:00] <llutz> ajmal: ssh-server running on server? "lsof -i :22"
[09:00] <et_> anybody?
[09:00] <llutz> ajmal: "Connection refused" means "nothing listens on this port"
[09:00] <ajmal> [duepi] How can i resolve this problem
[09:01] <acicula> ajmal: connection refused means you were able to reach the host, but the connection was rejected. This can happen because there is not a service running at that port/ip, or because of firewall rules rejecting connections to that service
[09:02] <gumus> hi all
[09:02] <shezri> hi
[09:02] <et_> hi
[09:02] <ubuntu89897> acicula, what do you mean?
[09:02] <et_> what is the name of the little animation that the mouse pointer turns into when the system is  busy doing something?
[09:02] <gumus> i can't run the google earth
[09:02] <ajmal> [acicula] How can i solve this problem
[09:02] <acicula> ajmal: you can not remotely fix this. Make sure that the ssh service is running and on what port it is listening, also verify that you do not have firewall rules blocking connections and/or there arent other firewalls on the network blocking the connection
[09:02] <gumus> with no appearing error
[09:03] <gumus> i click on the icon then nothing happens
[09:03] <phoenixsampras> ajmal: what problem?
[09:04] <weia> et_: we call that one the hoppy
[09:04] <ajmal> [acicula] our server maintenece party is using putty But I cant access
[09:05] <acicula> ajmal: you need to consult your maintenance party then and have them check they arent blocking connections from your ip address
[09:05] <et_> weia: ok
[09:05] <phoenixsampras> ajmal: call yous sysop
[09:06] <et_> so i made nautilus start automatically after GNOME starts up and this hopppy thing won't disappear
[09:06] <ajmal> [<acicula>] thank you ll get back to u
[09:06] <et_> does it mean something?
[09:06] <et_> weia: I'm trying to make a kiosk.
[09:07] <acicula> ajmal: your welcome
[09:07] <acicula> et_: hoppy thing?, nautilus starts by default on gnome as it also handles desktop icons
[09:09] <et_> acicula: s. I just replaced /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop with a script that starts nautilus immediately after loading GNOME
[09:10] <jiltdil> how to open pdf file in terminal?
[09:10] <et_> acuicula: by 'starts' I mean open a nautilus window.
[09:10] <acicula> jiltdil: depends on the pdf viewer, the gnome default is called evince
[09:10] <ubuntu89897> nbors652, i thought it was part of standard installation
[09:10] <et_> I'm just trying to make a kiosk out of ubuntu.  But that little mouse animation won't stop after nautilus pops  up..
[09:11] <jiltdil> acicula:actually i want to open it under terminal not ouside it as we open any text file using vi or gedit under termianl
[09:11] <acicula> et_: i see, wouldnt know about that specific problem, but are you following some specific kiosk howto or?
[09:11] <acicula> jiltdil: there is pdf2txt or the various pdf2something converters
[09:12] <acicula> jiltdil: pdftotxt even
[09:12] <et_> acicula: no I am not. I just manually stripped the system down by uninstalling several packages. then tried to start nautilus immediately after GNOME starts up
[09:12] <et_> acicula: The idea is to have the application (in this case, nautilus) open up in full screen when the system starts.
[09:13] <et_> acicula: and the system shutsdown when I close the application.
[09:14] <iamaregee2> how to configure PKG_CONFIG_PATH ??
[09:14] <acicula> et_: dont have a solution for the mouse pointer
[09:14] <et_> acicula: One of the guys here told me that little mouse animation (the equivalent of the hourglass in windows) is called hoppy!
[09:14] <iamaregee2> ./configure shows error that gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10 not found
[09:14] <et_> acicula: Ok. Thanks though ! :)
[09:14] <iamaregee2> but its installed in /ur/lib
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: you need to install the -dev version
[09:15] <et_> acicula: is there any other channel where I can look for help?
[09:15] <iamaregee2> hmm...
[09:15] <void_pointer> et_ any reason you just didn't use one of the chopped down distros of debian?
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[09:15] <iamaregee2> is it available on software center  ??
[09:15] <acicula> for the path variable
[09:15] <acicula> iamaregee2: for all open source packages there usually are -dev versions included when appropriate
[09:15] <et_> void_pointer: no specific reason. I just had ubuntu at hand and decided to get something working.!
[09:16] <iamaregee2> thanks lemme try it out...
[09:16] <acicula> iamaregee2: ussually adding it to .bashrc or .profile in your home is enough, unless you need the variables to apply system wide, see the wikipage i linked for details
[09:18] <acicula> iamaregee2: also be sure not to just blindly do make install as root, as by default most programs will dump their files in with the system files, which is typically not what you want
[09:18] <jiltdil> acicula: when i used pdftptxt it shows no result whem i use  pdftotext  it converts.thax for guiding me
[09:19] <jiltdil> acicula: when i used pdftotxt it shows no result whem i use  pdftotext  it converts.thax for guiding me
[09:19] <void_pointer> et_ fair enough. Although it often works out better to start with a minimal distro and build up, instead of a "full" distro and tear down. If you know what I mean.
[09:19] <acicula> jiltdil: heh i even looked it up for you and still copied it incorrectly, reading 101 failure :D
[09:19] <acicula> and i still copied..
[09:19] <iamaregee2> @acicula
[09:19] <iamaregee2> okay
[09:19] <jiltdil> acicula:hehehe ..any way thanx
[09:20] <et_> void_pointer: I understand !
[09:21] <acicula> iamaregee2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware , the last step explains how to make a deb file from compiled source
[09:22] <iamaregee2> i 've gtk-2.0 installed ...but the installing software is searching for gtk+-2.0 ...do i need to install gtk+-2.0
[09:23] <acicula> iamaregee2: libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[09:23] <acicula> iamaregee2: apt-cache search libgtk | grep dev
[09:24] <acicula> clear
[09:25] <iamaregee2> yeah
[09:25] <iamaregee2> thanks
[09:25] <jiltdil> acicula: ok how to convert text to pdf via terminal
[09:25] <acicula> jiltdil: latex ;)
[09:26] <iamaregee2> and does it works for converting pdf to txt as well ??
[09:26] <acicula> jiltdil: there is no formatting in txt, so pdf doesnt know what to do with it, other then treating the whole txt as one blob of text
[09:27] <dark2> Using ubuntu 10.10, updating causes me to just boot into a black and white striped screen
[09:27] <dark2> Not sure what update, just started happening after installing some
[09:27] <void_pointer> dark2 ah, Zippy Zebra must be out
[09:27] <dark2> :P
[09:27] <dark2> Not a new ubuntu version, just updates via update manager
[09:28] <dark2> I've been up all night trying to figure it out
[09:28] <void_pointer> sorry. All night coding session has left me delirious. I'd better depart
[09:28] <dark2> I just had to re-install ubuntu, but it will do it again
[09:28] <acicula> jiltdil: what you can do is perhaps decompile pdf to source instead of txt, make whatever  changes you want and then render it again
[09:28] <larious> anybody from Nigeria here
[09:29] <_cronus_> et_, which cursor theme are you using? maybe if you reinstall it, it will fix your problem
[09:29] <jiltdil> acicula:hw to do that
[09:29] <acicula> dark2: switched video driver by any chance?
[09:30] <dark2> Not that I know of
[09:30] <acicula> jiltdil: not really sure tbh, pdftosrc perhaps?
[09:30] <dark2> Using the propietary ATI drivers
[09:30] <jiltdil> acicula ok m trying
[09:30] <acicula> dark2: does the problem go away if you disable those?
[09:31] <dark2> I can't get in TO disable them
[09:31] <dark2> It locks up
[09:31] <dark2> I re-installed but if I update it will do it again
[09:31] <johanhar> I want to have ubuntu on my macbook. I know it is a dedicated webpage with instructions. I just wonder if anyone here got a macbook (5,5) with ubuntu 10.10, and know any problems? How is the trackpad (mousepad).
[09:31] <Lint01> how to get f..king metacity to start by itself?
[09:32] <acicula> dark2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20Need%20to%20purge%20-fglrx this looks like it should let you reset the driver back to the standard one
[09:33] <et_> _cronus_: no tat's not a problem.
[09:33] <acicula> dark2: as for trouble shooting the flgrx driver, im not much use there, what gpu do you have?
[09:33] <dark2> ATI HD 5850
[09:33] <dark2> Also, how do I use those commands if I can't even load in when it does so
[09:33] <et_> _cronus_: I'm thinking my script might be the problem.
[09:33] <dark2> I boot, I get the screen, it's all frozen
[09:34] <acicula> dark2: when booting opt for a rescue console, and then follow the menu to get a shell, or just boot a livecd/stick directly
[09:35] <acicula> in the bootmanager you have the option to select rescue, if you dont get such a menu hold shift, if that dont work hold the other shift.
[09:35] <acicula> (during boot)
[09:35] <Lint01> why would someone want to disable fglrx?
[09:36] <acicula> because enabling it renders his system unusable
[09:36] <magizian> free encrypted anonymous chatserver at magizian.hopto.org
[09:37] <dark2> If I do that though, I can't run 3D games
[09:37] <larious> any nigeria here
[09:37] <dark2> and the resolution will be horrible
[09:37] <_cronus_> et_, so you get to see all cursors except the waiting cursor?
[09:37] <acicula> dark2: the open source ati should let you set proper resolutions, but yeah the 3D acceleration will be lacking
[09:38] <dark2> I jumped out of my seat when I saw the striped lined screen
[09:39] <acicula> what did you see specifically
[09:39] <dark2> Just black and white vertical lines across both of my screens
[09:40] <acicula> think the radeonhd driver does have some 3d capability, its not a basic shim driver like the nvidia one is
[09:41] <acicula> dark2: could try the 11.04 and see if the newer ati drivers included function better? should be able to test with a livecd/usbstick
[09:41] <quask> hi
[09:41] <dark2> It was the 11.04 ones that were used.
[09:42] <quask> when I start firefox I get following error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon
[09:42] <quask> can anyone help me fixing that?
[09:42] <acicula> dark2: then try the 10.10 distribution, or were you mixing your own packages?
[09:43] <rtdp> my ubuntu 10.10 with duel monitor laptop is giving error as - Xserver does not support requested size - and after giving this error it shows mirror on both monitors
[09:43] <dark2> No I used the 11.04 and had the error, now reinstalled ubuntu and using the ones via "Additional drivers"
[09:43] <rtdp> why it gives error as - Xserver does not support requested size ? i am on ubuntu 10.10
[09:43] <dark2> But neither let me set a primary monitor and move my gnome bars over
[09:43] <dark2> >.>
[09:46] <acicula> flgrd doesnt work for you on 10.10 or 10.04?
[09:46] <acicula> err 11.04?
[09:48] <neil_> Hi everyone, I have a question regarding the password set up for thunderbird
[09:48] <neil_> I want to set up a password when even i open thunderbird
[09:48] <dark2> flgrd?
[09:48] <acicula> flgrx, the binary ati drivers
[09:48] <acicula> *proprietary
[09:49] <dark2> They operate currently
[09:49] <dark2> BUT
[09:49] <dark2> I haven't updated anything yet
[09:49] <rtdp> Xserver does not support requested size   -   how can this be solved for ubuntu 10.04 with dell inspiron,  ATI graphics card
[09:49] <dark2> still can't move the GNOME bars off the small monitor though.
[09:50] <quask> can anyone help me fixing the following issue? when I start firefox I get following error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: EOF in dbus-
[09:50] <quask> launch reading address from bus daemon
[09:50] <neil_> ???????????????????????????????????????
[09:50] <acicula> dark2: you mean to say updating 11.04 (not updating to 11.04) breaks the video?
[09:50] <dark2> I'm on ubuntu 10.10 just so we're clear
[09:51] <acicula> dark2: and when you update you mean the regular updates or the updates to 11.04?
[09:51] <dark2> I was using the latest ATI drivers from ATI directly, and updating things via update manager broke everything.
[09:51] <dark2> Regular updates
[09:51] <dark2> Not distro upgrade
[09:52] <acicula> so if i understand correctly: you have 10.10 ,you installed the ati drivers manually, then when you update with the updatemanager, things get hosed?
[09:52] <acicula> and by manually i mean went to the ati website and fetched their linux drivers?
[09:53] <dark2> yes
[09:53] <mix22891> עםם
[09:53] <acicula> dark2: then things are working as expected.
[09:53] <mix22891> good morning
[09:54] <mix22891> how do i scan a picture?
[09:54] <abhinav_singh> i need help with this http://pastebin.com/sm6cbFp6
[09:54] <dark2> what do you mean, as expected
[09:54] <acicula> dark2: the package manager has no perception of the binary driver package, and so this often leads to problems
[09:55] <dark2> Huh.
[09:55] <dark2> Thought it was a good idea to grab the newest
[09:55] <dark2> guess not?
[09:55] <acicula> dark2: its not
[09:55] <dark2> Windows logic =/= Linux logic I suppose.
[09:55] <acicula> dark2: correct ;)
[09:56] <dark2> I'll see if things still go OK after updates
[09:56] <acicula> dark2: if you must use newer ati drivers always always always use packaged versions, never just tarballs
[09:56] <dark2> It was a .run
[09:56] <dark2> or something like that
[09:56] <acicula> yeah thats the same deal, thats just a tarball with a shell script attached
[09:56] <jakobbg> Hey. An ideatorrent-module in drupal is spewing out lots if "Parameter 1 to profile_load_profile() expected to be a reference, value given"-warnings, running 10.04 LTS 64bits, drupal,php&apache2 from standard packages. Using ideatorrent 0.9.1. any help is appreciated, did not find anything on google.
[09:57] <dark2> But, can I get the gnome bars off my right screen and onto the left?
[09:57] <dark2> They seem to be stuck there
[09:57] <Shvonder> neil_: I've never done it. Still I think the question refers to AppArmour and, may be, PAM configuration.
[09:57] <acicula> dark2: i think it defaults to whatever monitor is set to primary in the video configuration tool
[09:59] <dark2> In windows CCC I can set it easy, but it doesn't seem to be the case here
[09:59] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[09:59] <Shvonder> neil_: PAM definetly is the thing that manges with passwords and logins. I can't say much about AppArmour
[09:59] <neil_> Shvonder: what is PAM ?
[10:00] <acicula> dark2: incidently https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI this explains how you can make packages from the unpackaged ati drivers, but ymmv. If things start to fail purge the fglrx drivers and revert back to the opensource/proprietary drivers included with the distribution
[10:00] <Lint01> neil_ pluggable authentication module
[10:00] <Shvonder> neil_: Here is it home page. (Look documentation please) http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/
[10:01] <neil_> Sure
[10:01] <hilarie> Not sure if this is the right place... but... here goes, when I hit python test1.py 1>/pinglogs/superninjalogfile.txt 2>/pinglogs/superninjaloglife2.txt that into terminal, I get bash: /pinglogs/superninjalogfile.txt: No such file or directory I created both the folder, and the file needed thinking that might be it
[10:01] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[10:01] <acicula> dark2: try preferences->video, should be a primary toggle there iirc.
[10:02] <dark2> There is no video option.
[10:02] <Ant13> Hi, is it possible to install Ubunt 10.10 on a mac without refit? And what about newest uefi pc?
[10:02] <lordpain> hello all
[10:02] <lordpain> hello all
[10:03] <Shvonder> neil_: Be aware it's very dangerous thing. You should configure it very carefully unless you want make the OS not usable.
[10:03] <lordpain> how do i open a C$ folder on a network
[10:03] <neil_> I was also reading about a small plugin in thunderbird called "Profile password"
[10:03] <acicula> dark2: then i dont know where the option to set the primary is at, not behind ubuntu myself atm so cant check
[10:03] <neil_> However i was not able to download it for the linux version
[10:04] <Shvonder> neil_: I don't use Thunderbird, sorry
[10:04] <Lint01> lordpain, smb://host-name-or-ip/c$
[10:04] <neil_> Okay
[10:04] <neil_> Also I have a problem in sharing the printer on a Remote Terminal Connection
[10:04] <acicula> neil_: setting a master password in thunderbird has nothing to do with pam or apparmor
[10:05] <Ant13> Hi, is it possible to install Ubunt 10.10 on a mac without refit? And what about newest uefi pc?
[10:05] <acicula> neil_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Master_password under setting a master password the procedure is explained
[10:05] <Adbuntu> hey guys, how i can chat in YM room via emphaty??
[10:06] <neil_> Acicula: I have no problem in setting up the master password, however I want to set up a profile password
[10:06] <lordpain> linnt01 it ask for a username ,domain and password
[10:08] <acicula> neil_: you want to prevent others from accessing a profile?
[10:09] <neil_> Acicula: Yes, to be precise I want to get the passwd screen as soon as I open thunderbird
[10:10] <pankaj_sharma> !history
[10:11] <acicula> neil_: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Protect_the_profiles_contents has some suggestions, under the weak methods to protect the profile contents
[10:12] <acicula> if you want to keep your emails safe though you should look for other security measures then an access password
[10:13] <blaize> neil_, why do you want to do it that way?  Wouldn't a better option to be to give people who use your computer their own profile? Or just lock your screen if you leave your desk?
[10:15] <SoftarPaul> Hello! I've downloaded Samba. I'm sitting with a networkcable from my Ubuntu, to my Xbox and I want to share the network with Samba. How to?
[10:16] <kisuke> ok tring to run an update from CLI and getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580069/ any ideas whats borking?
[10:17] <ubuntu89897> SoftarPaul, i have the same problem if u know how pls tell me
[10:17] <Shvonder> neil_: you know it is because of PAM you have to write password every time you run "pon" or "poff" commands, "ssh" andso on. Because of that it is possible to write a RULE for thunderbird like to any other program
[10:18] <Shvonder> hypotetically
[10:18] <neil_> okay
[10:19] <acicula> kisuke: punch your error into google, gives you this suggestion: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[10:19] <acicula> then run apt-get update again
[10:19] <kisuke> acicula: thanks, didnt see that when i googled it
[10:19] <fyriad> exit
[10:20] <acicula> SoftarPaul: usually people just click a folder in the filebrowser and enable the share option. How did you download samba?
[10:21] <acicula> *right click
[10:21] <SoftarPaul> Hey! Now when I plugged in the networkcable, it automaticaly worked!
[10:21] <SoftarPaul> without samba
[10:22] <simmerz> is this the right place to ask about PPA issues?
[10:22] <sandstrom> I have an ubuntu server with ~ 600 mb memory and 591 mb is used. All processes in top sum up to about ~80 mb memory usage. I've no idea where the rest is, any ideas?
[10:22] <acicula> sandstrom: cache
[10:23] <sandstrom> acicula: is that files (disk data) cached in ram?
[10:23] <iflema> !mem | sandstrom
[10:24] <acicula> sandstrom: that and a few other things
[10:24] <acicula> sandstrom: type in free -m, second row second column shows you the real memory in use by processes
[10:25] <Billybob3> Hi. Can anyone help me install manually my legacy nvidia driver in 10.04?
[10:25] <sandstrom> iflema: thanks!
[10:26] <acicula> Billybob3: the legacy drivers are packaged and can be activated via the Hardware drivers menu
[10:27] <sandstrom> acicula: thanks! So then I have ~100 used by processes, and the rest is free. Great! I guess I should reconfigure my server reporting tool which is sending me low memory alerts atm.
[10:27] <acicula> sandstrom: probably a good ieda
[10:28] <proper> read me
[10:28] <Billybob3> acicula- my Hardware drivers menu says is blank now and says there are no proprietary drivers in use.
[10:28] <acicula> Billybob3: what gpu do you have?
 scan the ubuntu cd for bcmwl driver
[10:30] <namitha> hey
[10:30] <Billybob3> acicula -gpu? er I think it's GeForce4 MX 4000
[10:30] <serengeti> hello. do you know of any Linux graphics program that makes it possible to use advanced typographic features found in some OpenType fonts? for example, http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/sudtipos/lady-rene/
[10:30] <empity> anyone knows maybe how to automatically start gpg and ssh-agent at every session?
[10:30] <empity> using awesome possibly..
[10:30] <namitha> ru dealing with the wireles driver or graphics driver
[10:31] <Billybob3> proper-bcmwl driver? And what do I do with that? Manually install it?
 ya
[10:31] <acicula> empity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup ?
[10:31] <namitha> gpw
[10:31] <empity> acicula: yes but I don't use the fancy stupid g ui
[10:32] <acicula> namitha, proper, he wasnt asking about his wireless card
[10:32] <empity> it's ubuntu here but with awesome, and on the other machine just archlinux
[10:32] <acicula> Billybob3: whats your gpu
[10:32] <Billybob3> namitha-ok
[10:32] <namitha> ok i know
[10:32] <empity> but there should be a more general way
[10:33] <acicula> empity: you can either use sytstem wide services or use your .bashrc or .profile to execute additional command
[10:33] <namitha> problem with installation u may need to install the dkms and the dependancies from the cd itself
[10:33] <Billybob3> acicula- gpu is that my graphics card? GForce MX4000
[10:33] <acicula> Billybob3: yes
[10:34] <namitha> anyone read me
[10:34] <Billybob3> acicula - GForce MX400
[10:34] <Billybob3> MX4000
[10:35] <neil_> I also have a question about the user restrictions in Ubuntu
[10:35] <namitha> problem wit connecting the dun through my mobile it flags null..,when i tried to
[10:35] <Shvonder> Billybob3: Download it and install from official site
[10:35] <empity> acicula: yes but other processes are not "son" of the process that first start them
[10:35] <neil_> is there any way that I can diable the "sudo" access for the user and I can get a report if anyone tries to access the "sudo" command
[10:36] <iceroot> neil_: remove him from the admin-group. for the report, there is the tool logcheck which will send mails on such events
[10:36] <namitha> neil:change the settings in administrater -
[10:36] <neil_> namitha: how?
[10:37] <namitha> .> users and groups utilities
[10:37] <namitha> it provides the options on the main tree
[10:38] <mix22891> ubuntu crash when i've copy files
[10:38] <mix22891> i've report about this
[10:38] <namitha> hello pls help me
[10:38] <mix22891> call 911
[10:38] <Billybob3> Shavonder-I already have. It's sitting on my desktop but when try to install it I get half way through the install and then it tells me that a driver such as nvidiafb or rivafb is stopping the NVIDIA driver from taking owership of the Nvidia graphics device
[10:38] <neil_> namitha: wts d issue u r facing?
[10:38] <namitha>  problem wit connecting the dun through my mobile it flags null..,when i tried to
[10:39] <acicula> Billybob3: dont download and install from the official site, thats a good way to instantly hose your system
[10:40] <namitha> neil:::??
[10:40] <acicula> Billybob3: from what i can tell the legacy driver you need is packaged for ubuntu 10.10 still, its called nvidia-96 . can you install that and reboot and see if the driver is then listed in the hardware drivers
[10:40] <Billybob3> acicula-the driver works perfectly well in systems prior to Ubuntu 10.04
[10:40] <germi> Hi, I use Qt Creator on Ubuntu 10.10. When I try 'run' my program(from creator) QT Creator close. Is there a solution to my problem?
[10:40] <mix22891> WE FIGHT FOR FREEDOME!
[10:41] <acicula> Billybob3: the hosing is related to installing critical system files without using the package manager leading to problems
[10:41] <tzaeru> ..any suggestions for a music player that has same functionality as rhytmbox, but doesn't take 10% of CPU together with PulseAudio?
[10:41] <axscode> hi guys im running compiz-fusion, and have an extended dual monitor. im having trouble transfering a window to extended
[10:42] <Billybob3> acicula-this is the one that works that I have sitting on my desktop-NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.16-pkg1
[10:43] <Billybob3> acicula- I mean works when I can get it installed (lol)
[10:43] <acicula> Billybob3: can you open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nvidia-96  and paste the output on pastebin.com?
[10:44] <Billybob3> acicula-ok doing it now...
[10:47] <Billybob3> acicula-is there any particular precedure or subject area for pasting something on pastebin.com?
[10:47] <acicula> nope, just dump it there, press button and copy the url here
[10:48] <Billybob3> aricula - ok doing it now...
[10:49] <Lint01> how to get f..king metacity to start by itself??
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> JOOO
[10:49] <administrator09> hi
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> KE TI EBAM CHATOT
[10:49] <administrator09> bojana e svinja
[10:49] <drkenziNNNNN> ZNAM!
[10:50] <administrator09> sakam da izleze ili padne od planetata
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> ??
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> nvm
[10:50] <ilea> what language( ce limba)
[10:50] <ilea> :P
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> ILEA KOJA SI TI?
[10:50] <ikonia> drkenziNNNNN: english only in this channel please
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> OK
[10:50] <drkenziNNNNN> KISS MY UGLY ASS
[10:52] <Billybob3> acicula - seems to be bit of a problem...Wrong Captcha CODE, please try again. Make sure COOKIES are enabled in your browser.
[10:52] <federico> hi everybody
[10:52] <rockworldmi> hi.
[10:52] <rockworldmi> http://www.220.ro/funny/Microsoft-Vs-Java/Iw8nmDHL7Y/
[10:53] <vlaar> hiya
[10:53] <rockworldmi> look at this..
[10:53] <federico> what is it?
[10:53] <acicula> Billybob3: fill in the captcha, and or turn of no-script or whatever blocking tool you use?
[10:54] <federico> italians in chat?
[10:54] <acicula> !it
[10:55] <mix22891> my last draw for linux ::::::; \\  http://img189.imageshack.us/i/gb3x.jpg/
[10:56] <AdvoWork> how can i see what ip's are on the network? ie <IP_ADDRESS>/24?
[10:56] <curiousx> AdvoWork: whti nmap
[10:57] <curiousx> nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[10:57] <curiousx> i for get "sudo" =P well you know
[10:58] <Shvonder> AdvoWork: ifconfig
[10:58] <curiousx> and sustitue 9 by 8 =P
[10:58] <Shvonder> ;)
[10:58] <ljsoftnet> hello people
[10:58] <curiousx> like that ---> sudo nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[10:58] <mix22891> uh lalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:59] <mix22891> opps
[10:59] <mix22891> sorry
[10:59] <curiousx> excuse me my inglish is not so good =(
[10:59] <mix22891> wrong window
[11:02] <Billybob3> acicula - you still there? here is the pastebin url you asked for: http://pastebin.com/GCKtwBv7
[11:02] <genewitch> well i got x11 forwarding and audio forwarding working on the cloud, now. Remarkably, windows XWin.exe is completely worthless, but ubuntu desktop works flawlessly.
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> hi, for some reason gnome won't install on kubuntu.... any ideas?
[11:03] <io> CoNFuS3D: #kubuntu
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> I do the install, says it's installed, then when I go to log out, to select gnome, it's not there
[11:03] <kish> is there a sw to collect usb traces similar to ethereal for packet cature??
[11:03] <CoNFuS3D> it was originally a gnome install, I installed kde, now can't go back to gnome
[11:03] <genewitch> CoNFuS3D: run "which gnome-session"
[11:04] <acicula> Billybob3: reboot see if the driver is listed?
[11:04] <CoNFuS3D> gives me this: /usr/bin/gnome-session
[11:04] <Billybob3> acicula-ok am doing now...
[11:04] <genewitch> CoNFuS3D: it's a matter of editing the config for the login screen i imagine. I'd start googling that. that's my slightly more helpful answer.
[11:05] <Pumpkin-> kish: amazingly, wireshark on Linux can
[11:05] <Pumpkin-> http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB
[11:05] <genewitch> Pumpkin-: for blackboxing a usb device?
[11:06] <Pumpkin-> yeah. Read that page. I think it is what you want.
[11:06] <acicula> CoNFuS3D: in the KDM login manager you can select the gnome session, think you can revet to the gnome login manager using update-alternatives
[11:06] <genewitch> wasn't me, but thanks for the tip :-)
[11:06] <tnm> anybody know what does the decimal points for program mens, like program version 1.2.3 stand for: "1" in the program version, "2" is the version of upgrade and "3" is version of update?
[11:07] <kish> yes
[11:07] <genewitch> tnm: major.minor.build-revision ubuntu 10 is the major, 10.10 is major.minor, for instance.
[11:07] <kish> would be great if you could help..
[11:07] <acicula> not really, for ubuntu the 10.10 just refers to the year/date more then anything
[11:08] <genewitch> acicula: i didn't want to cite windows NT version numbers. or mac OS. mac os X has 10 in front of the major number (currently 5) followed by minor (currently 2 or something) so mac os X 10.5.2
[11:08] <Pumpkin-> tnm: different programs do numbering differently. No really accepted common standards.
[11:09] <genewitch> Pumpkin-: vaguely off topic but it's probably because there's no standard concurrent versioning system adopted by the community, as the good ones do versioning automatically.
[11:09] <iceroot> tnm: 10.10 means year 20(10) month 10. so its 10.10. ubuntu 8.04 was release 200(8) in april (04), so its 8.04
[11:10] <acicula> genewitch: verion numbering is done at the discretion of the developer or marketing (team). the only real convention is that higher means newer
[11:10] <genewitch> acicula: i concede that
[11:10] <billybob3> acicula-hi. here is what lspci -k says:Kernel modules: i2c-viapro
[11:10] <billybob3> 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: via-rhine
[11:10] <billybob3> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[11:10] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau
[11:11] <billybob3> acicula - system Admin Hardware drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use???? What does that mean?
[11:11] <acicula> billybob3: not a clue, can you activate it ?
[11:12] <Rickardo1> Is there any way I can dump the iptables config.. I have done a lot of changes and need to script it so I don't lose the changes when reboot.
[11:12] <CoNFuS3D> weird, the default desktop is set to GDM, so why then would it still load KDE ?
[11:12] <CoNFuS3D> and also the login screen is gnome... which is also a bit weird
[11:13] <CoNFuS3D> should I try uninstalling gnome, then reinstalling?
[11:13] <billybob3> acicula - it says it is activated already but not currently in use. And button gives me the option to deactivate it...
[11:13] <vlaar> the sessions.conf reference to gdm might be wrong
[11:14] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: gdm is not a desktop
[11:14] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: the loginscreen is gdm, which will load gnome, kde, xfce4, lxde or other things
[11:15] <beacher> \admin
[11:15] <CoNFuS3D> oh!... well.. why is there no selection to change desktops?
[11:15] <CoNFuS3D> and more importantly, how do I fix that?
[11:16] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: if you have kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed, there is a session-option in gdm
[11:16] <CoNFuS3D> I tried that, but to no avail
[11:16] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop  is showing "ii"?
[11:17] <billybob3> acicula- it's hard to tell if that new driver is making alot of difference to anything but not worse anyway (lol). Isn't it just possible to get rid of the nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau drivers and install the driver that worked on previous prior to 10.04?
[11:17] <acicula> billybob3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8469/nvidia-96-not-working-in-maverick all the way at the bottom is a suggestion that may help you
[11:17] <CoNFuS3D> yes
[11:17] <acicula> billybob3: that driver is not likely to work
[11:18] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and at the login-screen, where you choose your username and gave the password there is a field called session if i am correct
[11:19] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and please put the nickname infront of a chat-message
[11:19] <CoNFuS3D> there was when I first installed KDE, but not anymore
[11:19] <leptonix> @find charmed
[11:19] <billybob3> acicula - like I said it works nicely when I manage to get it installed  on older systems and it also got installed on linux mint 10 (don't ask me how! lol) but, you're more of an expert on the subject me I guess.
[11:19] <CoNFuS3D> ice799, ok I will in future :)
[11:20] <billybob3> acicula -my old NVIDIA driver I mean
[11:20] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: and using the correct names also? :)
[11:20] <acicula> billybob3: the driver is included in 10.10, but was disabled by default, probably why its loaded, but not activated. Which means you are currently using the nouvaeu driver
[11:20] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, oops, sorry :P
[11:21] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: if i am correct you can also choose the session in the gnome-menu. system-settings-login-screen (dont know the englisch menu-names)
[11:21] <acicula> but there was an updated version made of the nvidia-96 so it would work in 10.10
[11:21] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, can't get to gnome to do that :P
[11:22] <beacher> joined #ubuntu
[11:22] <billybob3> acicula - so I'm back at square one? ha ha ha. ok Thanks anyway.
[11:22] <acicula> billybob3: no
[11:22] <acicula> as explained here https://launchpad.net/~dajhorn/+archive/nvidia-96
[11:22] <billybob3> acicula - no?
[11:23] <billybob3> ah ok . thanks
[11:23] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: then have a look at your current desktop you are running for that setting
[11:24] <hale> hi. i have a directory that isn't emty. i can not remoove it via:sudo rmdir -rf IPTables-Parse-0.7/
[11:24] <hale> . plz help
[11:24] <billybob3> acicula - ok got a bit of reading to then. Thanks for your help
[11:24] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, I would assume user defined session would give me the ability to choose desktops?
[11:25] <acicula> billybob3: sudo aptitude -t maverick-proposed install nvidia-96 nvidia-96-modaliases
[11:26] <acicula> think that should cover it and install the proper update right away without doing anything else
[11:26] <coz_>   hey all
[11:27] <Beacher> hi guys
[11:27] <billybob3> acicula - ok
[11:27] <iceroot> CoNFuS3D: i guess so
[11:28] <hale> how can i remove a not emty directory?
[11:28] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, thanks :)
[11:28] <CoNFuS3D> I try now... brb
[11:28] <iceroot> hale: why -r when using rmdir? rmdir should be the same as rm -r
[11:30] <llutz> rmdir only deletes empty dirs
[11:30] <rockworldmi> http://www.artofliving.org/
[11:30] <Beacher> yes. that only remove empty directory
[11:31] <Beacher> rm -r
[11:31] <acicula> billybob3: did that fix the problem?
[11:33] <billybob3> acicula - sorry was answering the doorbell... just about to sudo what you suggested...just a minute...
[11:35] <billybob3> acicula - guess it needs a reboot again?? Doing that now..
[11:35] <acicula> billybob3: dunno, can try activating first
[11:36] <CoNFuS3D> iceroot, didn't work, tried each and every option available in the login manager... any suggestions?
[11:36] <dromidan> im trying to connect my ubuntu box to the internet via a shared Airport connection on my laptop through ethernet. I am able to share this connection to other macs over the ethernet, but the ubuntu box will not connect using automatic DHCP. Ive tried setting it up manually, but no dice. Is there anything else I can try to make it work, other than trying to set it up manually?
[11:36] <Beacher> question : irc can use in the command line ?
[11:37] <llutz> Beacher: weechat irssi
[11:37] <Beacher> oh . thanks
[11:37] <Beacher> llutz: thanks
[11:38] <billybob3> acicula-system admin hardware drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use AND this time instead of the option to deactivate it I only have the option to remove it???????? Reboot??
[11:39] <acicula> yeah
[11:41] <sveinse> Is is it possible to add any options to avahi-autoipd from interfaces? I've specified a new eth0:1 using the ipv4ll method, however I need to pass --force-bind to avahi-autoipd to make it assign an address.
[11:42] <Shvonder> Beacher: Can irc be used in command line? (It would be more correct. Yes. I heard of IRC-command line clients, through they were not very usefull for ME)
[11:42] <ech0s7> hi
[11:42] <ech0s7> com.synclab.pilotmobile.domain.model.communication.PayloadQueue
[11:43] <ech0s7> wrong paste :)
[11:43] <ech0s7> hi i have a problem with java application, i see only one program icon in application bar if i launch different java applications...
[11:43] <gaden> Shvonder: use irssi
[11:44] <Shvonder> gaden: Say it to Beacher as I use ChatZilla :)
[11:44] <gaden> Shvonder: ouch.. sorry :)
[11:46] <benjamice> hi
[11:46] <benjamice> i have a problem with my touchpad and mouse
[11:46] <Kent_> Can I use a USB data cable to connect my internetless-laptop to my desktop so I can connect to the net?
[11:47] <dromidan> Kent_: you can use an ethernet cable, apparently; im trying to do that now
[11:47] <larious> Kent: you mean you cant set up internet on your Ubuntu
[11:47] <benjamice> i just installed ubuntu on a dell 1525, and installed the updates
[11:47] <benjamice> and now my touchpad dosent respond
[11:48] <benjamice> after rebooting
[11:48] <dromidan> Larious, no he means specifically what he is saying, using a USB cable.
[11:48] <shezri> hi i have a question
[11:49] <kangjing> kangjing
[11:49] <benjamice> my touchpad dosent respond and so does nothing else that i didn't plug in
[11:49] <dkannan> hi, i was using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto - to generate a gpg key. i am using 10.04 aka lucid and it does not have gpg-agent?
[11:50] <coz_> benjamice,  hold on  I am sure someone can help... I am not familiar with touchpad issues
[11:50] <larious> benjamice & dromidan: but me am having a problem to set up internet with my usb modem, can you help me , any Idea cos I dont know my apn and my operator wont give it to me cos they believe that I can tapped from there network
[11:50] <dromidan> dkannan you can do it from the command line pretty simply with just a few commands
[11:51] <stianhj> larious, the APN should be listet on your carriers website..
[11:51] <stianhj> listed*
[11:51] <billybob3> acicula - thanks for your help. I would still sometime ideally like to install my legacy NVIDIA driver the one that Nvidia recommends for the card. I think it makes things less laggy. Anyway for thanks again.
[11:51] <benjamice> well is there any forum where i can write about the specific problem?
[11:51] <acicula> billybob3: does it work?
[11:52] <larious> stianhj: they dont want to expose it to me
[11:52] <dkannan> dromidan: i was following the guide and i did a "gpg --gen-key", there was some parts using gpg-agent that is not available?
[11:52] <stianhj> larious, which carrier?
[11:52] <acicula> billybob3: the packaged nvidia driver in the hardware drivers tool is the same as the driver nvidia distributes, except that its packaged for use in ubuntu
[11:53] <larious> multilinks telecom service
[11:53] <larious> stianhj:  multilinks telecom service
[11:53] <aminixfan> Hi,are there any Qt C binding?
[11:54] <billybob3> acicula-what you helped me install just now? Yes. But the system was working before but was a little laggy depending on what I had done in trying to install my original NVIDIA driver. OK so it's the same driver-but it has a slightly different reference no at the end???
[11:54] <larious>  stianhj:  multilinks telecom service
[11:54] <dromidan> dkannan have you installed gpg-agent? in any case, you do not need it to generate keypairs
[11:54] <billybob3> acicula - yeh the system still works...lol
[11:55] <billybob3> acicula - I just wish I had a clue what the hell it was you helped me do so I could repeat it ha ha ha ha. But thanks for your assistance anyway.
[11:56] <acicula> billybob3: before it was using the noveau driver, the open source version
[11:56]  * kangjing
[11:56] <benjamice> any1 knows about touchpad related issues?!
[11:57] <billybob3> acicula - pspci -k: Kernel modules: via-rhine
[11:57] <billybob3> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[11:57] <billybob3> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[11:57] <billybob3> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-96, nvidiafb, nouveau
[11:57] <billybob3> mal@mal-desktopUB1004:~$
[11:57] <FloodBot3> billybob3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <acicula> billybob3: for the next time all you need to do is to use aptitude to install the nvidia-96 package from maverick proposed
[11:57] <dkannan> dromidan: thx, but on lucid i do not see gpg-agent in the install list
[11:57] <dromidan> then apt-get install it
[11:57] <billybob3> acicula - ok thanks mate
[11:59] <acicula> yw
[12:00] <co> if you want to discuss ##fukushima you can join ##fukushima :)
[12:01] <fladr> ^_^
[12:02] <acicula> billybob3: it looks like for the new 11.04 ubuntu just installing the nvidia-96 package should suffice, also packages in proposed should make it into the main repository at some point, but i guess there isnt a whole lot of active development behind the nvidia-96 package given its age
[12:03] <williams> any network gurus in here? trying to connect to machines with diff subnets
[12:04] <llutz> williams: needs a router
[12:05] <stianhj> williams, need a router
[12:05] <billybob3> acicula - that's interesting to know.
[12:05] <stianhj> or what llutz said
[12:06] <williams> third vm machine as router?
[12:06] <llutz> williams: would work
[12:06] <williams> cool
[12:06] <llutz> williams: you need at least one machine with access to both subnets
[12:06] <llutz> that acts as routeing device
[12:10] <kish> is usbmon supported in 2.6.38
[12:11] <system32> I'm using Intel 82865G having problems with screen resolution..
[12:12] <system32> On windows after installing drivers I had 1152x864
[12:12] <system32> Now on ubuntu I can only manage 1024x768
[12:12] <system32> Can anybody guide me.
[12:13] <doed> hi
[12:13] <larious> system32: do you have any idea on how to run my window modem driver to work on linux
[12:14] <system32> nope, i'm new to to ubuntu.
[12:14] <doed> xorg uses 90-100% of cpu all time any ideas what causes this problem ?
[12:14] <larious>  system32: So how do you connect tot the internet
[12:16] <system32> My modem was automatcally detected
[12:16] <sacarlson> larious: normaly we don't use windows drivers to run linux, 95% of all devices have drivers already in the kernel, can you provide use with hardware info with sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:17] <larious>  system32: so wat is the name of the modem
[12:18] <system32> beetel 220BX
[12:19] <larious> system32: am using huawei
[12:20] <larious> system32: but having problem installing it
[12:22] <kodapa> Ubunut
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:23] <larious> kodapa: Yah Ubuntu 10.04 TLS
[12:23] <coz_> LTS
[12:24] <larious> yea
[12:24] <X-windowsUSR> odd, I went to install ubunto using VirtualBox - was just fine, but I cancelled it 1/2 through realizing I want to put the entire thing on another physical drive (so my pagefile isn't being used AND the virtual image - too busy), so I removed the entire install- but my 35 GB is STILL missing on my c drive... yet ? no virtual drives.
[12:24] <X-windowsUSR> Anyone know much about VB ?
[12:24] <larious> coz_: can you help me
[12:24] <coz_> larious,  not sure,, can you repeat the issue?
[12:24] <ljsoftnet> X-windowsUSR i know VB