[14:14] <teolemon> if you wish to use fuzzy for translations
[14:14] <teolemon> we've set up a bogus project
[14:14] <teolemon> where you can upload the fuzzy strings as translated strings so that they appear as suggestions for the actual ubuntu manual translations
[14:15] <CarstenG> Hi all.
[14:15] <teolemon> hi :-)
[14:16] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie.
[14:17] <hannie> hi CarstenG
[14:18] <teolemon> hi hannie
[14:18] <hannie> hey teo
[14:18] <teolemon> 16:14 teolemon: we've set up a bogus project
[14:18] <teolemon> 16:14 teolemon: where you can upload the fuzzy strings as translated strings so that they appear as suggestions for the actual ubuntu manual translations
[14:18] <teolemon> (just repeating what i said)
[14:19] <hannie> let me have a look
[14:19] <teolemon> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntumanualautomated
[14:20] <teolemon> in the case of French, I've also added machine translations for the totally new strings, but I know it's a no no for the other languages :-)
[14:20] <hannie> teolemon, are they added as suggestions to Launchpad?
[14:20] <teolemon> yes
[14:20] <teolemon> eg:
[14:20] <teolemon> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/raring/+pots/ubuntu-manual/fr/+translate?memo=190&show=untranslated&start=190
[14:21] <hannie> ah, that is good news. So we can translate them online instead of offline
[14:21] <teolemon> we have both the fuzzy translation showing up
[14:21] <teolemon> and the machine translation (for French)
[14:21] <teolemon> so we can pick and choose or mix both
[14:21] <hannie> Do you change the .pot file and upload it to LP?
[14:22] <teolemon> you just have to upload the result of your command (eg po file)
[14:22] <teolemon> in the bogus project
[14:22] <teolemon> we used the raring pot for the bogus project
[14:22] <hannie> ok, I will have to study it before I understand it ;)
[14:22] <teolemon> but launchpad accepts partial po files
[14:22] <teolemon> or send me the nl po
[14:23] <teolemon> and i'll put it on the bogus project for you
[14:23] <hannie> teolemon, I could do that, but maybe I should try  first
[14:24] <teolemon> ok
[14:24] <hannie> and if I have questions, perhaps you can help me
[14:25] <teolemon> ok
[14:25] <teolemon> normally you should be able to upload to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntumanualautomated
[14:25] <hannie> ok
[14:25] <teolemon> and that will be a good training for when you decide to semi-automate the ddtp :-P
[14:26] <hannie> ha
[14:33] <hannie> teolemon, if I understand it correctly, I use mgsmerge like I explained, then upload the result to:
[14:33] <hannie> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntumanualautomated/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-manual-ubuntu-manual/nl/+translate
[14:33] <teolemon> yes
[14:34] <teolemon> before that
[14:34] <hannie> ah, briljant. I will do it in a minute
[14:34] <teolemon> you can upload machine translations
[14:34] <teolemon> an then upload msmerge
[14:34] <hannie> what do you mean by "machine translation"?
[14:34] <teolemon> so that you can get translations for strings not covered by msmerge
[14:34] <hannie> the one that is 100% translated (Precise-e2 for me)
[14:35] <teolemon> strings processed by http://translate.google.com/toolkit/
[14:35] <teolemon> i used quantal
[14:35] <teolemon> for French
[14:35] <hannie> ok, but that is also the one I use as a base for msgmerge
[14:35] <teolemon> there might be less modified strings than with raring
[14:35] <hannie> yes, but we have not translated quantal
[14:36] <teolemon> ok
[14:37] <teolemon> i used raring, processed it with http://translate.google.com/toolkit/
[14:37] <teolemon> uploaded it to the bogus project
[14:37] <teolemon> then did msgmerge between raring and quantal
[14:37] <teolemon> (or raring and precise for you)
[14:37] <teolemon> uploaded it to the bogus project
[14:37] <hannie> teolemon, what do you do with google toolkit? Automated translations are terrible :(
[14:38] <teolemon> that way, I get msmerge translations where possible
[14:38] <teolemon> and machine translations otherwise
[14:38] <teolemon> I did proofread it a little because it breaks syntax
[14:38] <teolemon> otherwise, the translations are ok for French
[14:39] <teolemon> as the manual is well written in English
[14:39] <teolemon> the output is not bad in French
[14:39] <hannie> I'll give it a try too
[14:40] <teolemon> the only thing is:
[14:40] <teolemon> try to fix as many syntax errors as possible in Google Translator Kit
[14:40] <teolemon> because it lets you find and replace in translated strings only
[14:40] <hannie> ok
[14:40] <teolemon> there must be a gettext command for that
[14:40] <teolemon> but i don't know it
[14:41] <teolemon> and then you have to export it and make sure it validates in poedit
[14:41] <teolemon> and do find and replace until it validates
[14:41] <teolemon> or just erase the translations that don't validate
[14:41] <teolemon> to go quicker
[14:43] <hannie> teolemon, that is a lot of information you give me. I have copied this conversation so I can have a look at it when I am experimenting.
[14:44] <teolemon> i've made a summary for the DDTP
[14:44] <teolemon> http://lite.framapad.org/p/ddtpUbuntu
[14:44] <teolemon> it's quite similar
[14:44] <hannie> I will let you know if I get stuck
[14:44] <hannie> you are very accurate ;)
[15:05] <hannie> teolemon, either LP or my provider is very slow. the download hasn't arrived yet. I will do the merging as soon as it arrives.
[15:05] <teolemon> lp
[15:05] <teolemon> it takes a couple of min
[15:05] <hannie> ok, not neuf.fr
[15:06] <hannie> it takes more than 10 minutes so far
[15:08] <teolemon> usually it takes a long time for the ddtp
[15:09] <teolemon> but not for smaller templates
[15:22] <hannie> teolemon, LP is a bit recalcitrant, it has not sent me the file yet, despite "Your request has been received.. etc."
[15:22] <hannie> I will do it later this evening or tomorrow
[15:23] <hannie> Thanks for your info so far
[15:46] <CarstenG> I'm just playing with msgmerge...
[15:47] <CarstenG> I get the following warning, when I try to merge precise.po with quantal.po
[15:47] <CarstenG> internationalized messages should not contain the `\r' escape sequence
[15:47] <CarstenG> 19 times
[15:48] <CarstenG> Do you know, what can the reason for that?
[15:48] <hannie> CarstenG, I will answer in a minute
[15:49] <CarstenG> in the mentioned line numbers are only the »msgstr ""«
[15:50] <hannie> CarstenG, I think I encountered this warning also and decided to ignore it
[15:51] <CarstenG> ok, :-)
[15:51] <CarstenG> Its only a warning :-)
[15:51] <hannie> yes, no consequences I guess
[15:51] <hannie> At least, it did not give me any problem
[15:56] <CarstenG> I guess I found the problem:
[15:56] <CarstenG> In very huge paragraphes I added some line breaks in LP, so these are now in the po file, and the warning occure, e.g: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/precise-e2/+pots/ubuntu-manual/de/838/+translate
[15:57] <hannie> ah, well done, inspector carsten
[15:58] <hannie> so you are not allowed to add line breaks
[16:04] <CarstenG> yes, you are right. :-)
[16:06] <CarstenG> But in raring these huge paragraphs are now in raring split, so they are not needed anymore :-)
[16:07] <hannie> you mean the authors/editors shortened the paragraphs?
[16:07] <CarstenG> yes
[16:07] <CarstenG> I did also some.
[16:07] <hannie> good, because it was a nightmare for translators
[16:17] <hannie> Got to go, see you
[16:52] <cqfd93> Hi All!


[14:41] <BB_azrael2> hi
[14:52] <BB_azrael2> I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 and downloaded the Edubuntu CD iso. But I don't get it to install Edubuntu from the CD image without burning it. Can you help me?


 Well I'm trying to make 2020 go away
[09:09] <Laney> oh yeah, got somebody one of those for christmas last year
[09:09] <Laney> few people have them up around here too marcustomlinson!
[09:09] <Laney> you are riding the wave
[09:09] <Laney> one of the shops has real christmas trees to buy already
[09:09] <seb128> marcustomlinson, let's hope 2021 is better!
[09:09] <marcustomlinson> 🤞
[09:10] <Laney> I should go dig mine up at the allotment soon :>
[09:10] <Laney> last I looked it was still alive
[09:14] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, callmepk
[09:14] <didrocks> morning Laney, seb128
[09:14] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va ?
[09:14] <Laney> ahoy didrocks
[09:21] <seb128> Laney, didrocks, jibel, you people who know a bit livecd-rootfs, is it supposed to generate a filesystem.squashfs?
[09:21] <seb128> $ ls build.output/
[09:21] <seb128> binary.log  livecd.ubuntu.ext4  livecd.ubuntu.initrd-generic  livecd.ubuntu.kernel-generic  livecd.ubuntu.manifest  livecd.ubuntu.manifest-minimal-remove  livecd.ubuntu.manifest-remove
[09:21] <seb128> I wonder if that sounds right
[09:21] <seb128> (not that I'm having any success to drive ubuntu-cdimage after that)
[09:26] <Laney> seb128: it generates livecd.<project>.squashfs, you can see the expected artifacts (for Ubuntu desktop) on e.g. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/hirsute/ubuntu/+build/246753
[09:26] <Laney> then it gets renamed a couple of times by cdimage and debian-cd to end up as filesystem.squashfs in the iso
[09:27] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[09:27] <seb128> I found a problem, trying another iteration, hoping to get the right output this time
[09:27] <seb128> making those tool working locally is a bit ridiculous :/
[09:28] <Laney> indeed, it wasn't really designed to be used like that unfortunately
[09:28] <Laney> I think Foundations were suppoesd to get a person to work on ubuntu-image to replace a lot of this, but not sure if that happened
[09:28] <Laney> (afaik not)
[09:29] <seb128> Laney, I'm a bit curious about the +livefs, how does one use it? using directly +new-livefs on launchpad or is there some wrappers generating content that can be used for ubuntu builds?
[09:30] <seb128> I found https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/LiveFilesystems but that's not the most intuitive guide either
[09:31] <Laney> cdimage calls requestBuild() on the Launchpad API to make it do the builds
[09:32] <Laney> and you can pass 'metadata' to these (either as default on the +livefs, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/hirsute/ubuntu-preinstalled/) or per build via the metadata_override parameter
[09:32] <Laney> livecd-rootfs changes what it does based on those parameters
[09:32] <seb128> I though ubuntu-cdimage was called after that and downloading the artifacts
[09:32] <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/hirsute/daily-live-20201116.log
[09:33] <Laney> look at the top there
[09:33] <Laney> it starts the build, then waits for it to be conmpleted and downloads the results
[09:33] <seb128> k, I see
[09:33] <seb128> thanks
[09:34] <seb128> I'm doing quite some poking around stacks I never really played with before
[09:34] <seb128> oh, also using new tools
[09:34] <seb128> I've been using multipass as a backend, first time I really use it, it's quite nice
[09:35] <seb128> (lxc would work as well I guess but the multipass command line is easier to use ;)
[09:35] <Laney> yeah is great
[09:35] <Laney> did you use it via snapcraft before?
[09:35] <seb128> yes
[09:36] <seb128> speaking of which I really need to make a patch to having a nicer command line opened from the indicator
[09:36] <seb128> I can't barely read the text is the one it opens
[09:42] <didrocks> seb128: sorry, in the HO, I’m fine thanks!
[10:12] <seb128> $ ls build.output/
[10:12] <seb128> binary.log                    livecd.ubuntu.kernel-generic  livecd.ubuntu.manifest-minimal-remove  livecd.ubuntu.size
[10:12] <seb128> livecd.ubuntu.initrd-generic  livecd.ubuntu.manifest        livecd.ubuntu.manifest-remove          livecd.ubuntu.squashfs
[10:12] <seb128> k, better!
[10:46] <xnox> seb128:  oooooh =)
[10:46] <xnox> seb128:  looking good, are you working on the thing?
[10:47] <seb128> xnox, trying to, at least I've the livecd-rootfs build working now locally (or failing for canary, which is expected at this point), I've no luck with ubuntu-cdimage though
[10:47] <xnox> seb128:  re multipass high-dpi => https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/899
[10:47] <gitbot> canonical issue 899 in multipass "Ability to choose terminal emulator multipass.gui" [Enhancement, Open]
[10:48] <xnox> seb128:  so, local livecd-rootfs builds might be enough to inspect the initrd and detect if it is still bad, or became good.
[10:48] <seb128> xnox, right, I saw that one, confinement is annoying :p
[10:49] <xnox> seb128:  specifically, one can unpack the initrd that is produced (the livecd.ubuntu.initrd-generic) and check if the /conf/uuid.conf is there (or whatever it is called, on the normal regular ubuntu desktop iso build)
[10:49] <seb128> xnox, right, I would like to get ubuntu-cdimage to work though :/
[10:49] <xnox> sure =)
[10:49] <seb128> would also be easier to try to boot the ISO than poke at content manually
[10:50] <seb128> xnox, I might not be far with your tips from the other day, I've a local dists and things but I hit some other missing files and such
[10:50] <seb128> e.g britney/rptprobs.sh
[10:51] <seb128> which I downloaded from https://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/bzr/britney/cdimage/
[10:51] <seb128> unsure if I'm doing something wrong though that I need to do those things manually
[10:51] <seb128> now I need to figure out the layout of the scratch directory and how to correctly path the download functions
[13:45] <luna_> oSoMoN: something new to compile: https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/83.0/ / build
[13:45] <luna_> also Chrome/Chromium will release a new version later tonight
[13:49] <oSoMoN> luna_, you mean that? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/83.0+build2-0ubuntu1
[13:49] <seb128> xnox, did you hit the ubuntu-cdimage failing on 'cpio: premature end of archive'' before?
[13:53] <luna_> oSoMoN: yep and oh great :)
[13:55] <luna_> updated and works
[14:08] <seb128> xnox, k, that was bug #1832108 which isn't fixed on bionic
[14:11] <seb128> k, I got a ./scratch/ubuntu/hirsute/daily-live/debian-cd/amd64/hirsute-desktop-amd64.raw !
[14:11] <seb128> how far is that from the iso?
[14:30] <xnox> seb128:  that is the iso!
[14:30] <xnox> seb128:  later, publication copies and renames it.
[14:30] <seb128> ah ok
[14:31] <xnox> seb128:  and somehwere in the scratch dir there should be the a file which has the xorriso command to repack/recreate that.
[14:31] <xnox> grep for '.raw' in scratch dir
[14:31] <xnox> if you want to quickly replace/download fresh kernel/initrd/squashfs and rerun the command to create the iso for you.
[14:37] <seb128> xnox, thanks again for the help. I will try to clean up and documents hacks I did to get it working, I hope I remember enough :p
[14:45] <xnox> seb128:  it's not exact science =) like cooking.
[14:46] <xnox> seb128:  also mwhudson in subiquity project was working on a repack script that uses xorisso to analyze a given cd, figure out how to repack it, and allow one to substitute anything, and repack again. And it works across all series/bootloaders/arches i think.
[14:52] <seb128> xnox, Laney, do you know where one get that configuration?
[14:52] <seb128>     path = os.path.join(config.root, "production", "livefs-launchpad")
[14:52] <seb128> or create it
[14:53] <seb128> (I've the build working offline with hacks atm but I might want to try using livefs at some point)
[14:54] <xnox> seb128:  look two lines below it.
[14:54] <xnox> seb128:  if it doesn't exist, the one form etc/ exists, and that one is in the repo.
[15:00] <seb128> xnox, shrug, I misunderstood the error, thanks for pointing that out
[15:01] <seb128> I was using the wrong argument, I had cron.daily and it just couldn't find an entry for 'daily' type
[15:01] <seb128> it goes further using 'daily-live'
[15:13] <seb128> Laney, jibel , is https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-daily-perpetual-pending/19363 a known issue?
[15:13] <seb128> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ is from today but it has 20.10 files for amd64
[15:13] <xnox> seb128:  yes.... there are alot of daily-live --live live ubuntu live subproject live all the things.
[15:14] <xnox> seb128:  the daily are the old alternate / installer .iso d-i based, back to the days when there was "install iso" and "live iso" as separate coasters.
[15:14] <seb128> Laney, jibel, is that because hirsute tests are failing and the previous serie isn't clered out until there is a valid image?
[15:14] <seb128> xnox, I see
[15:14] <Laney> It's using the last current image, I would guess no hirsute image has passed testing yet
[15:15] <seb128> one day I will remember where those test logs are
[15:15] <seb128> can you help me? ;)
[15:15] <xnox> seb128:  jenkins.canonical.com => then follow the rat's next to anything you need.
[15:15] <Laney> Somewhere on https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/view/Desktop/
[15:15] <xnox> (has both cpc stuff and platform-qa for server/desktop stuff)
[15:17] <seb128> I don't see hirsute jobs there, I guess I need jibel
[15:20] <Laney> I would guess it's something like https://git.launchpad.net/qa-jenkins-jobs/commit/?id=c27528789f5af8eb43483c54c5568aa4ed5b80d7 but in https://git.launchpad.net/qa-jenkins-jobs/tree/jobs/iso-testing/jobs.yaml
[15:21] <jibel> seb128, I"ll add them
[15:21] <seb128> jibel, thanks!
[15:22] <seb128> jibel, Laney, should we add that somewhere in the release opening process?
[15:22] <seb128> easier to not forget then?
[15:23] <jibel> yes, indeed it should be documented somewhere immediately after the archive is open for a release
[15:24] <Laney> It has Notify canonical-platform-qa<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to set up Utah jobs for Ubuntu desktop and server.
[15:24] <Laney> Feel free to edit that to be something else if necessary
[15:24] <jibel> it is documented actually
[15:24] <jibel> 21. Notify canonical-platform-qa<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to set up Utah jobs for Ubuntu desktop and server.
[15:25] <jibel> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess
[15:25] <jibel> notification didnt work
[15:26] <seb128> jibel, Laney, the list archive see no post
[15:26] <seb128> so I guess that step wasn't done or the sender had been moderated
[15:26] <Laney> The item isn't checked in the document we were using
[15:26] <Laney> because it's under "First weeks"
[15:26] <Laney> We have a work session later today, so it's likely it would happen as part of that.
[15:26] <seb128> sorry for being an hour too early :p
[15:26] <Laney> right
[15:28] <jibel> or not, who knows what would have happened if you didn't mention it here :)
[15:31] <jibel> and done, you can check the item
[15:32] <seb128> jibel, shouldn't you add groovy to supported?
[15:33] <jibel> we don't build new images of groovy do we?
[15:36] <seb128> ah, right
[15:36] <seb128> makes sense :)
[15:50] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[15:50] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:51] <hellsworth> hey marcustomlinson !
[15:57] <didrocks999> hey hellsworth
[15:57] <hellsworth> o/ didrocks999
[16:30] <jibel> good morning hellsworth
[16:34] <hellsworth> hi there jibel
[17:29] <luna_> The new Chrome is out now
[17:29] <luna_> 87
[17:54] <Laney> oSoMoN: We've got an item on the opening checklist "Ask firefox maintainer to update start page for the new release." - is that still relevant? Wondering if we should delete it?
[17:55] <oSoMoN> Laney, that doesn't ring a bell, we don't customize the start page (any longer?)
[17:56] <oSoMoN> I'd say this can be safely dropped
[17:56] <Laney> great
[17:56] <Laney> I like dropping things
[17:56] <oSoMoN> me too :)


[00:11] <kmart> IrcsomeBot, nope, 20.04 LTS
[00:11] <kmart> tomreyn, firmware for what? SupremeFX ?
[00:12] <kmart> the soundard works just fine, on windows mic-in works ok and I can record with audacity
[00:12] <kmart> on kubuntu though, not only the mixer defaults to auto-mute everything on "usb audio"
[00:13] <kmart> it also somehow doesnt pick up any input from the mic
[00:14] <kmart> the kubuntu alsamixer doesnt even have the "auto mute" section in the ascii UI
[00:14] <kmart> yet everything gets auto-muted
[00:14] <kmart> have to manually run command: "amixer -c 2 set Headphone on"
[00:14] <kmart> to get it unmuted
[00:16] <kmart> from the googling that ive done I figured im not the only one with that problem, and it was introduced sometime in 2019-2020
 If it's 20.10, try uninstalling pipewire.  I found pipewire to interfere with my BT headphone and uninstalling pipewire fixed it.  Also, you try killing pulseaudio as it will restart automatically and that my "fix" the issue.
[00:43] <kmart> killing pulseaudio doesnt fix anything in my case
[00:44] <kmart> and not gonna reinstall my workstation to 20.10 :( too much setup
 you can upgrade from 20.04 to 20.10 and maintain your existing setup.
[02:54] <maxrazer> I'm not sure why but the Kubuntu install failed. I got an error and it said to report it. I also tried the safe graphics boot mode for the install. I've been able to install KDE Neon just fine though as well as Debian and Open Suse Tumbleweed with no problem. This is actually a problem I've had with Ubuntu on my comuter for many years. It is just about the only distro I haven't been able to install, though I think I got it
[02:54] <maxrazer> to work once and tracked it down the changing the hostname from the default or something.
[03:06] <maxrazer> I also didn't try to install normal Ubuntu, just Kubuntu, since I want to run Plasma.
[04:33] <viktor_> hi, i installed ibus to write chinese with pinyin. but it only works in libreoffice writer. not in Kate, Firefox,... Maybe this is a gtk - qt issue. But i don't know how to fix it. Any suggestions?
[04:50] <Capone> Hey, I was trying to upgrade my distro.
[04:51] <Capone> When I did I got an error that my /boot was full. I looked and there are many old kernels. I tried to remove, and I get the following error:
[04:52] <Capone> > Reading package lists... Done
[04:52] <Capone> > Building dependency tree
[04:52] <Capone> > Reading state information... Done
[04:52] <Capone> > E: Unable to locate package ––purge
 Did you try: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ?
[04:54] <Capone> Yes I tried that first I got. 'E: Invalid operation ––purge'
 Which version of Kubuntu?
[04:57] <Capone> focal
 what about: sudo apt autoremove
[05:00] <Capone> yes I tried that too. No error but nothing removed
 @thanveer787, till date, all Kubuntu versions have been very stable for me. … Kubuntu is my primary/production Operating System
 So following the instructions at the following website, how many kernels are installed? https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-18-04-remove-all-unused-old-kernels/
 sudo dpkg --list | egrep -i --color 'linux-image|linux-headers' | pastebinit
[05:08] <Capone> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PHfHvQqmDj/
 Follow the directions at the bottom of the weblink to cleanup non-active kernels.
 sudo -i … apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg --list | egrep -i 'linux-image|linux-headers' | awk '/ii/{ print $2}' | egrep -v "$i")
[05:48] <Capone> @DarinMiller Thank you, that worked.
[06:35] <suger> hi
[08:25] <bob_> I have a bug that I would like to report - it concerns the application pipewire
[10:10] <zhanghao> ?
[10:10] <zhanghao> ?
 @ri5h46h, nice
 iam installing right now.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/LeFM5B8O/file_41162.jpg mine is a fresh install and getting this error for whatever thing i do
[13:40] <mparillo> Looks like a gnome app, and they seem to accept issues at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues
 @thanveer787, fixed it somehow. played with some options in recovery mode
 sad that it comes back after few reboots :/. anyone else has this issue in 20.10. what might have i did wrong
 @thanveer787, Did you run anything as root or via sudo? What does this command display:  … ls ~/.config/baloor* -al
 @DarinMiller, that changes with the app i try to open
 if i open vlc it says the same about vlc. if i press power off , it says something related to that.  … common thing is   configuration file not writable please contact system administrator
 what does this command show:  … ls ~/.config/baloor* -al
 @thanveer787, also this problem solves when i make the file system read and write from recovery mode for disk checking. but the effect only last untill i shut it down once
 Which file system did you chose when you installed?
 @DarinMiller, ext4
 can you write anything to your home directory?
 from a command prompt type: touch t.t
 @DarinMiller, i think i found the cause. Just after booting everything will work fine.  that commans you gave also works  not showing any errors.   … The problem only comes if i mount the local disk partition . Which is made by windows
 But it will not go away if undo the mounting
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mIh9Sins/file_41168.jpg This is after i mounted the local disk. Before mounting. it didnt show any errors
[18:03] <Wheelz> Good evening
 How are you mounting your windows partition?
 @DarinMiller, just mounting from dolphin
 one more thing. i have two other partitions . one is the local disk that causing the issues and other one is the partition i have windows installed. i just mounted the partition where windows is installed. no problem at all. The problem arises when i mount that particular hard disk partition only.  Well i have some files with delete prevention ( no deletion rights for normal user need admin pass to confirm) . But i sat it in
 Very strange behavior indeed.  What is your kernel version (uname -a)?
 (Photo, 1280x394) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/s0uMQie1/file_41169.jpg
 i had manjaro installed before. but didnt have any issues like that.
 @thanveer787, kernel version
 Try manually  mount the partition via the command line after a fresh reboot, then if that works add it to your fstab file.
 @DarinMiller, okey i will do that
 i mounted the partition via terminal. To a mounting point i created in /mnt/ following a guide in ubuntu forums. But still the problem persists
 So after a fresh reboot, the file system is rw (verified by "touch t.t" or some other method.  But as soon as you "sudo mouint -t  ntfs /dev/xxx /mnt/mydir", your home directory is read only?
 Is ntfs-3g installed?
 install ntfs-3g (sudo apt install ntfs-3g) and try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/xxx /mnt/mydir
[19:17] <bunson> hi


[02:10] <cjohnston> czajkowski: can we just setup a redirect on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList to LD since it looks so bad with the new theme?
[02:20] <cjohnston> mhall119 Daviey and ill even include nigelb :-P  Currently the "Global Event" dropdown on add event includes all global events... This poses a few problems that I see... One, eventuallt the list will get pretty long. 2.. Users are selecting the wrong global events. Do yall have thoughts on this? should we remove the global event from the list after it has completed? any other ideas?
[02:21]  * nigelb looks at current list
[02:22] <cjohnston> right now it isnt horribly long... but there are multiple choices that are the same
[02:23] <nigelb> there are events in that list, we could keep cleaning up I ugess
[02:23] <nigelb> and do we want date and time for the global events? that way we could reuse them.
[02:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: +1 for removal of past events
[02:26] <cjohnston> nigelb: they need to be tied to a date
[02:28] <nigelb> cjohnston: oh, ok
[02:30] <cjohnston> mhall119: Bug #710436
[02:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710436 in loco-directory "Remove past global events from global events drop down (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710436
[02:30] <cjohnston> mhall119: you ready to start on hof?
[02:30] <nigelb> hof?
[02:30] <cjohnston> HoF
[02:30] <cjohnston> ?
[02:31] <cjohnston> hall of fame
[02:31] <nigelb> oh, right
[02:39] <cjohnston> off to bed
[02:39] <cjohnston> g'nite
[02:40] <nigelb> g'nite
[02:41] <mhall119> cjohnston: nope
[02:42] <nigelb> I'd like to put more work into summit
[02:42] <nigelb> mhall119: do you want me to work on the same merge requset or branch and create a new one?
[02:45] <mhall119> nigelb: if it's a different feature/bug, use a new branch
[02:47] <nigelb> ok :)
[04:51] <TrickyJ> Hi all :)
[06:47] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:55] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I dont actually mind was saying it to jcastro the other day people still use the wiki, but I think for that link we should just redirect to the LD
[07:31] <dholbach> good morning
[08:57] <czajkowski> Aloha
[11:12] <Ronnie> i have a problem with bzr. as soon as is merge lp:~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/570613 into lp:loco-directory. i got some conflicts. I think i resolved them. but some changes from  lp:~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/570613 are not coming trough. i mis a few lines in /events/url.py and /events/views.py
[11:12] <Ronnie> can somebody help me with this
[11:13] <Ronnie> ping nigelb (am working atm on the maps feature)
[11:20] <nigelb> Ronnie: hey
[11:20] <nigelb> Ronnie: is there a point where you could use help?
[11:20] <Ronnie> yes, the styling of the map and popups is still an issue
[11:21] <Ronnie> but as you can see above, i cant merge the main branch with my branche
[11:24]  * Ronnie is back in a minute
[11:55] <Ronnie> nigelb: are you still there?
[11:56] <nigelb> Ronnie: yup
[11:56] <nigelb> I'm at work, so I'll be a bit distracted.
[11:56] <nigelb> BUt I'll be home in 3 hours and can look at your code :)
[11:57] <Ronnie> nigelb: ok, hf. see you in a few hours
[11:58] <nigelb> :)
[14:07] <cjohnston> mornin dholbach
[14:07] <cjohnston> czajkowski: down with the wiki!
[14:07] <dholbach> hi cjohnston
[14:10] <czajkowski> cjohnston: indeed
[15:10] <mhall119> morning
[16:02] <nigelb> o/
[17:12] <mhall119> czajkowski: feeling a bit stabby today?
[17:13] <czajkowski> yes
[17:27] <nigelb> heads up jorge is using summit
[17:27] <nigelb> we may all get pings on how bad it is :p
[17:56] <mhall119> :P
[18:17] <locodir-riki> hi
[18:18] <locodir-riki> any one knows the ubuntu tunisian chanel?
[18:18] <daker> huh locodir-riki
[18:19] <locodir-riki> ahla
[18:19] <daker> locodir-riki, the channel is #ubuntu-tn
[18:19] <locodir-riki> o
[18:19] <locodir-riki> k
[18:19] <daker> type : /join #ubuntu-tn
[18:19] <locodir-riki> i know dude
[18:19] <daker> locodir-riki, or ask nizarus
[18:20] <nizarus> locodir-riki, it's #ubuntu-tn
[18:20] <locodir-riki> yeah am in since 2.25 sc
[18:20] <locodir-riki> LOL
[18:21] <nizarus> thx daker
[18:21] <daker> yw
[20:50] <cjohnston> Daviey: ping
[21:12] <Ronnie> evening
[21:12] <Ronnie> nigelb: are you around?
[22:04] <Daviey> cjohnston, o/
[22:39] <mhall119> Daviey: I think he was going to ask you about making summit translatable
[23:37] <cjohnston> Daviey: what mhall119 said...
[23:59] <Daviey> mhall119 / cjohnston: Sounds great!
[23:59] <Daviey> I think my effort for summit is probably going have to be limited to merge review, and possibly deployment.
[23:59] <Daviey> Not sure i have the time to undertake new development at the moment.
[23:59] <Daviey> Which sucks big style.


[01:33] <OldSchool> ug
[01:33] <OldSchool> cia bot needs to die
[03:08]  * JontheEchidna has a paperkut
[03:22] <JontheEchidna> in the name of papercuts: kde svn 1002459
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> now I'll just need to find time to get my layout-fu up to aseigo's liking
[03:25] <vorian> http://machinecrusade.net/goodbyesteve.jpg
[03:25] <JontheEchidna> D:
[03:26] <vorian> wednesday is my last day \o/
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> oh, so that's the sign at your real place of work?
[03:26] <vorian> yep
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> haha, sweet
[03:27] <vorian> i wanted to do a forkbomb, but we didn't have the right characters
[03:27] <JontheEchidna> well, sweet @ the sign. I don't claim to know the conditions surrounding your departure
[03:27] <JontheEchidna> heh
[03:27] <vorian> I'm more than happy to quit
[03:27] <vorian> i gave a long notice too
[03:27] <vorian> so, everyone is happy
[03:34] <JontheEchidna> seems konq has had this sort of trouble in the past: kde svn 853987
[03:34]  * JontheEchidna agrees
[12:44] <neversfelde> Bug #404839 needs a sponsor
[12:45] <neversfelde> mhh, no bot around https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-windowlist/+bug/404839
[12:48] <Tm_T> and people wonder why we like our bots
[12:59] <Tm_T> neversfelde: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2009-July/000590.html
[13:00] <Tm_T> back to lurking ->
[13:16] <_Sime> sip4 in karmic claims to depend on libjs-jquery...
[13:17] <_Sime> porkchops!
[16:15] <_Sime> wow, libboost1.37-dev drags in 332MB (on disk) of related stuff.
[16:58] <shtylman> so my webcam doesn't work on the new kernel...
[16:58] <shtylman> oh well... :(
[17:08] <claydoh> my laptop doesn't work on the new kernel :(
[17:11] <ScottK> claydoh: Nice job on the Alpha 3 release notes.
[17:33] <JontheEchidna> bug 404930
[17:33] <JontheEchidna> no ubottu D:
[17:49] <shtylman> wow...new kmail is pretty fantastic...
[17:50] <maco> new kmail?
[17:50] <shtylman> well..new to me
[17:50] <shtylman> I never used kmail before
[17:50] <shtylman> only the old 3.5 one
[17:50] <shtylman> not the kde4 one
[17:51] <shtylman> but I like many of the stuff they have added and cleanedup
[17:53] <maco> ah ok
[18:14] <_Sime> is it stable?
[18:25] <lex79> JontheEchidna: to making a new bzr repo, I tried with
[18:25] <lex79> bzr push<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:25] <lex79> Launchpad user 'kubuntu-members' doesn't have a registered SSH key
[18:25] <lex79> :(
[18:27]  * JontheEchidna usually makes the new repos in launchpad itself
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> https://code.launchpad.net/dikikam
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> https://code.launchpad.net/digikam
[18:31] <lex79> done, thanks :)
[18:44]  * shtylman +1 konversation alpha
[18:45] <Riddell> evening
[18:52] <lex79> uff....
[18:52] <lex79> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+addbranch
[18:52] <lex79> how to regiister without +junk ?
[18:56] <Riddell> lex79: mostly you just push it to the desired location
[18:56] <Riddell> bzr push lp:~<user>/<project>/<branch>
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> lex79: register the branch from the upstream project's page in launchpad
[18:57] <lex79> JontheEchidna: there is no branch from the upstream for kipi-plugins
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> ah, no kipi-plugins project?
[18:57] <lex79> uhm no
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> you would want to register a kipi-plugins project on launchpad
[18:58] <lex79> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/kipi-plugins
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> after you register kipi-plugins, then you'll be able to add the branch
[18:58] <lex79> ok thanks
[19:00] <Riddell> "Harald Sitter (apachelogger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members team"  yay!
[19:01] <jussi01_> hrm
[19:01] <jussi01_> severely broken system... yum yum
[19:01] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: do you know if there was a resolution to Bille's network manager issue yesterday?
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: We determined that we weren't shipping a too-new svn, and that the user had compiled it himself but still reported as using ubuntu packages
[19:04] <Riddell> ok, that's a nice resolution
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: by the way, it seems klipper doesn't like the .desktop translation doman stuff: bug 362860
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> Mind if I assign it to you since you know the most about that?
[19:06] <Riddell> hmm
[19:06] <Riddell> yeah go ahead
[19:07] <jussi01_> so, was updating to the RC3, it borked, and hung (dropped x). I tried to boot in, had no inputs. so dropped to recovery console, tried to update. not sure what went wrong, but Im now at the following message: update-initramfs: generating /boot/initrd... cpio ./sbin/udevadm: cannot stat no such file or dir.
[19:07] <jussi01_> if some one feels like telling me how to fix that, you are most welcome ;)
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> jussi01_: a similar problem got me good. I had to reinstall.
[19:08] <jussi01_> JontheEchidna: yeps, im feeling like that might happen, but Im desparately trying to avoid it...
[19:10] <JontheEchidna>  I think we both rebooted while it was generating the initramfs
[19:10] <JontheEchidna> not surprising since that's one of the parts of the upgrade that takes a little bit of time to complete
[19:10] <jussi01_> quite possibly. so theres nothing do able about it? nothing to try?
[19:11] <JontheEchidna> maybe recovery mode, and then try to complete the upgrade, if you can figure how to set up networking in recovery mode
[19:11] <jussi01_> JontheEchidna: thats where I am now. no worky
[19:11] <JontheEchidna> or maybe you could try re-running update-initramfs?
[19:12] <jussi01_> how would I do that?`
[19:12] <JontheEchidna> sudo update-initramfs
[19:12]  * jussi01_ goes to try, brb
[19:12] <JontheEchidna> you may need to be in the root console
[19:14] <jussi01_> yeah, Im there. its asking me for a switch...
[19:14] <jussi01_> hrm, am I wanting to create a new one, or update the current one?
[19:14] <JontheEchidna> dunno
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> updating the current one couldn't hurt
[19:15] <jussi01_> yeah, I spose things cant get any worse...
[19:15] <jussi01_> :P
[19:15] <jussi01_> brb, gonna try it
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> computer over, viruses = very yes
[19:16] <jussi01_> ok, that give the same error message. ill let you know how it goes with creating a new one...
[19:19] <jussi01_> JontheEchidna: nope. Im going to try force removing the kernel in question, then dpkg --configure -a : does that sound sane to you?
[19:19] <shtylman> Riddell: I think the todolist should be re-orged so that the status is on the far right side... like on the old todo list (probly no need to do it for this todo list) but a good idea for the next one... much easier to see what has been done
[19:20] <Riddell> go for it
[19:21] <JontheEchidna> jussi01_: can't get any worse, I guess
[19:26] <jussi01_> JontheEchidna: its screwed. Im going to reinstall... sigh.
[19:27]  * jussi01_ wishes he could just reinstall the linux parts and leave the rest intact...
[19:44] <jussi01_>
[19:51] <dtchen> jussi01_: err, usually you can work around that error by forcibly reinstalling udev and regenerating an initramfs
[20:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[20:15] <Riddell> hi apachelogger
[20:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: ahoy, I need you to poke a bit in the packaging issues highlighted by david in his latest mail about translations
[20:16] <apachelogger> writing a mail right now
[20:23]  * apachelogger always sends with wrong email address :S
[20:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: anyway, mail sent and queued in kubuntu-devel ;-)
[20:27] <Riddell> I don't see it in the moderation queue
[20:28] <apachelogger> oh
[20:28] <apachelogger> autorejected
[20:28] <apachelogger> bad behaviour :P
[20:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: sent again
[20:30] <Riddell> only way to keep the moderation sane
[20:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: increase amount of mods :P
[20:30]  * apachelogger subscribes his gmail address
[20:30] <apachelogger> actually, if mailman would support alias addresses it would be very useful too
[20:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll fix up pkg-kde-tools
[20:40] <apachelogger> uploaded
[20:43] <shtylman> anyone know if there is a way to detect (in python) if compositing is turned on?
[20:43] <shtylman> or enabled?
[20:43] <shtylman> I need to run different sets of code depending on if compositing is on or not
[20:45] <apachelogger> shtylman: I guess you can query it via dbus from kwin
[20:46] <shtylman> lordy...
[20:46] <mgraesslin> shtylman: KWindowSystem also provides a method to check if compositing is enabled
[20:46] <shtylman> mgraesslin: :)
[20:47] <mgraesslin> that one also works if you have Compiz
[20:49] <shtylman> mgraesslin: worked like a charm
[20:50]  * apachelogger likes kwindowsystem from now on
[20:50] <mgraesslin> it's awesome :-)
[21:17] <shtylman> Riddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/installer_dialog.png
[21:17] <shtylman> thoughts?
[21:17] <shtylman> that would replace the standard looking dialog that pops up when detecting disks and whatnot...
[21:18] <shtylman> (when there is not compositing, it just doesn't have the shadow under it...but is still rounded)
[21:21] <Mamarok> gah, I'm sick of idiots who tell people to use pulseaudio in #kubuntu for 9.04 :( we are the ones who get the users whining in #amarok later
[21:42] <Riddell> shtylman: looks lovely
[21:43] <shtylman> Riddell: think so... don't think it takes the re-theming too far? ... I had that concern potentially, but found that this dialog looked better than a standard *window* based dialog
[21:43] <shtylman> which now seems to stand out too much... :/
[21:44] <Riddell> if it works I don't see why not
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r12 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/ (kde.rb lib/orphansparser.rb): (log message trimmed)
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: lib/orphansparser.rb:
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: * listTags(amount=3) to list possible tag names
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: * getRevision(tag) to return revision of tag name
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: * Workaround bug where svn switch to in the way of svn up *shrug*
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: kde.rb:
[21:44] <shtylman> true...
[21:44] <CIA-30> Kubuntu: * Only hardcode revision of previous series' KDE tag
[21:44]  * apachelogger declares bzr-cia a fail and kills the bot
[21:48] <ScottK> Looks like RC3 built on all archs except, of course, armel.
[21:49] <apachelogger> bah
[21:49] <apachelogger> networkmanager plamsoid fails to build
[21:49] <apachelogger> poor icecream cluster worked for nothing :(
[21:51] <apachelogger> so
[21:51] <apachelogger> who is going to repair amarok-nightly?
[21:51]  * shtylman not it
[21:52]  * vorian needs an arm machine
[21:52]  * vorian gives apachelogger a big hug
[21:52] <vorian> late birthday hug
[21:52] <apachelogger> uh, the huggles!
[21:52]  * apachelogger rehugs vorian
[21:52]  * apachelogger also hugs shtylman
[21:56] <lex79> digikam and kipi-plugins are in bzr now
[22:01] <jussi01_> dtchen: Ive just come in and seen that... havent reinstalled yet, Ill give it a try! thanks!!
[22:08] <Riddell> ryanakca: about?
[22:11] <jussi01_> hrm, is this a  paper cut bug or something else... When copying, the copying notification popup needs to be expandable to see the full path.
[22:11] <jussi01_> err paperkut :D
[22:13] <ScottK> The armel thing is apparently down to needing a longer timeout to build qt4-x11 on armel.
[22:13] <ScottK> It's been requested, so we're close.
[22:15] <Riddell> ScottK: can't we just turn off lzma for armel?
[22:15] <ScottK> Riddell: lzma is solved.  It's something gcc 4.4ish now.
[22:16] <jussi01_> ScottK: are you familiar with an imx 31 from free scale_ would our arm builds run on it?
[22:16] <ScottK> jussi01_: I'm not.  NCommander is the one who knows such stuff.
[22:17] <jussi01_> ScottK: ok then, Ill seek him out... :D
[22:17] <ScottK> You already have ....
[22:18] <jussi01_> Are we in his "likely around" timezone?
[22:18] <ScottK> He lives in -0400
[22:18] <jussi01_> ok, so hopefully he will turn up soon :)
[22:19] <jussi01_> its getting close to bed  time here... after midnight
[22:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping poke call
[22:25] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[22:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: am I the best looking dev ever?
[22:26] <Nightrose> apachelogger: of course
[22:26]  * apachelogger bzr pushes
[22:26] <Nightrose> right after fregl
[22:26] <Nightrose> :D
[22:26] <apachelogger> biased!
[22:27] <Nightrose> maybe
[22:27] <Nightrose> a little
[22:28]  * apachelogger waits for lp
[22:28] <apachelogger> Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor r63
[22:29] <apachelogger> Argument > Config > Default
[22:29] <apachelogger> most awesome documentation line ever :P
[22:30] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hehe now if I could use that with git... :/
[22:30] <apachelogger> oh
[22:30] <apachelogger> true
[22:30]  * Nightrose needs to figure out how to do the whole tagging thing in git
[22:30] <apachelogger> god damnit
[22:31] <apachelogger> you know, I told you that I need to refactor it towards that direction :P
[22:31] <apachelogger> but ye nahd
[22:31] <Nightrose> what?
[22:31] <Nightrose> i didn't!
[22:31] <apachelogger> you did!
[22:31] <apachelogger> were whining about minor bugs :P
[22:32] <Nightrose> *lol* for sure
[22:32] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I suppose git tag is the way to go
[22:32] <jussi01> dtchen: you rock my world!!!! THANK YOU!!!
[22:32] <Nightrose> probably - still needs tarball sorted out
[22:33] <apachelogger> well, that is easy :P
[22:33]  * apachelogger is wondering though
[22:33] <apachelogger> Nightrose: since doc and l10n are in SVN... how would we tag that?
[22:33] <apachelogger> would need independent tag, or we import into git, which is darn slow and looses history
[22:34] <apachelogger> Nightrose: for the time being: how about mirroring git master to SVN
[22:34] <apachelogger> that way you don't have to worry about that kinda stuff for now :P
[22:35] <Nightrose> no - scripty gets confused by that - amarok dir in svn is being deleted right now
[22:35] <apachelogger> too bad
[22:35] <apachelogger> well, then, make your choice
[22:35] <apachelogger> indepdent tag in KDE SVN or git add po
[22:36] <Nightrose> the latter i guess
[22:36] <apachelogger> ok
[22:36] <Nightrose> not sure though
[22:36] <apachelogger> Nightrose: well, get it discussed
[22:37] <Nightrose> needs some input from ian
[22:38] <apachelogger> anyway, unless I come up with a super awesome design that restructures the libs in a way that they become less dependent on each other and on SVN the best I can do is branch a git version of the script
[22:39] <apachelogger> maybe have src, l10n and doc as classes with common functions and create srcSVN, l10nSVN and docSVN as implemenations of those
[22:40] <apachelogger> or create a proxy class around src, l10n and doc and then implement that as svn, probably easier to control frontendwise
[22:40]  * apachelogger needs to ponder
[23:15] <ryanakca> Riddell: Yes, just got in, what can I do for you?
[23:45] <shtylman> ryanakca: I can't click on any content link below #9... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
[23:45] <ryanakca> shtylman: known and annoying issue, bug 389233
[23:46] <shtylman> ryanakca: cool, just making sure :)
[23:46] <ScottK> Riddell: Dell mini 10v has a multimedia key to control wifi on/off and seems to get a reasonable keyboard event.  Any thoughts on what package should deal with that?
[23:46] <ScottK> It's currently not working
[23:47] <Riddell> network manager applet should
[23:48] <Riddell> in a perfect world, I doubt there's any code for it
[23:50] <shtylman> Riddell: is the network manager getting love from sebas this cycle?
[23:52] <Riddell> shtylman: from wstephenson it is, although no guarantee it'll ever be ready
[23:52] <shtylman> heh
[23:54] <shtylman> and what about that giant block of artwork todo we have untouched/unassigned?
[23:54] <shtylman> is that for later?
[23:56] <shtylman> oh...and do we know yet if our version of oo is with the kde4 patches?
[23:56] <shtylman> those have a one or two small bugs in the file picker...but beyond that we can press forward and remove kde3 libs I think


[03:52] <buglord> been trying to register on the forums all day but I guess account creation is bugged? not sure if its related to captcha having server issues, if the error message is to be believed
[07:37] <Firethelazor> hey
[12:26] <user|55> what version of ubuntu am i using?
 Check info center user55
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all


[18:26] <Kilos> aw sorry superfly . hope they hurry with your mb
[18:26] <Kilos> hi everyone
[18:26] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:26]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:30] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:30] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks
[18:30] <Maaz> Kilos: No problem
[18:33] <drubin> So I just got a phone call from a importer of laptops in Paarl that pretty much wants to ship them out with ubuntu
[18:33] <drubin> but he needs help.... any one know where I can point him to?
[18:33] <Kilos> that sounds good drubin
[18:33] <drubin> Kilos: :) it does in theory... just making it happen is harder..
[18:34] <Kilos> yip. put your ideas to our lists as well
[18:34] <Kilos> lotsa peeps dont come here but read the mails
[18:34] <superfly> Kilos: yeah, me too, I need it for next weekend
[18:44] <drubin> marcog: You scheduled the meeting for tomorrow is this still happening
[18:45] <marcog> drubin: maia scheduled that


[05:04] <xor> Does anyone know how to remove Desktop Actions from the application launcher search feature? This hopefully without having to manually edit every desktop file.
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:31] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks