[03:29] <Ben1984> thats what you typed
[03:29] <Ben1984> thats what i entered
[03:30] <Ben1984> ok finished
[03:31] <phoenixbyrd> installing vmware is fun stuff
[03:31] <phoenixbyrd> tried it MY way.... boy was I wrong :/
[03:31] <Hobbsee> hehehehe
[03:31] <Hobbsee> what, RTFM is overrated, you say?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> in most cases it is, i know
[03:32] <phoenixbyrd> it is! it's so much more fun MY way!
[03:32] <Hobbsee> LOL
[03:32] <Hobbsee> of course it is
[03:32] <Hobbsee> until it doesnt work
[03:33] <phoenixbyrd> yea :/
[03:35] <bobuse> How can I upgrade from Hoary to Breezy (RC) ? without CD
[03:35] <aftertaf> damn damn damn.
[03:36] <aftertaf> mornfall:  did you get the repository bug thing fixed?
[03:36] <mornfall> aftertaf: which one?
[03:36] <aftertaf> lol
[03:36] <mornfall> aftertaf: the cd one?
[03:36] <Ben1984> ok its downloading the universe
[03:36] <Ben1984> :P
[03:36] <mornfall> aftertaf: or one i don't yet know about?
[03:36] <aftertaf> the one where you couldnt add the miltiverse part of the deb line.
[03:36] <aftertaf> i did metion it (tho not via bugzilla)
[03:37] <aftertaf> Ben1984:  edit sources.list....
[03:37] <aftertaf> and i forgot sth in that line, i am sorry i do that all the time, even when typing the command on my pc.
[03:37] <aftertaf> Ben1984:  type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <Ben1984> i was just about to ask..lol
[03:37] <aftertaf> i havent yet tested adept 1.0 for that bug.
[03:38] <Hobbsee> bobuse: !upgrade2breezy
[03:38] <aftertaf> mornfall:  and i use adept on 3 pcs now ;)
[03:38] <mornfall> aftertaf: hmm, that should be fixed yes
[03:38] <Hobbsee> !tell bobuse about upgrade2breezy
[03:38] <mornfall> i have a good side?
[03:38] <Ben1984> ok...now what..
[03:39] <aftertaf> Ben1984:  you edit sources list and on each deb http://      line you add the words universe and multiverse
[03:39] <Ben1984> its already there
[03:39] <aftertaf> then you type sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get install adept :)
[03:39] <Ben1984> i told you i just installed them from synaptic :P
[03:40] <aftertaf> have any more kde 3.5 packages been released since the initial beta release in september?
[03:40] <aftertaf> Ben1984:  good thing...... now download adept (and save my skin) ;)
[03:41] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: you should have gotten updates for them a day or so ago
[03:41] <aftertaf> mornfall:  i am at work...... it was the weekend :)
[03:41] <aftertaf> dist-upgrade has been running on both machines since around 10 this morning (ie 6 hours)
[03:42] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:42] <aftertaf> :)
[03:42] <mornfall> it was doing what?
[03:42] <mornfall> you are on a 56k modem?
[03:42] <Ben1984> i added multiverse
[03:42] <Ben1984> how do i save this in nano
[03:42] <aftertaf> mornfall:  feels like it.... :)      i'm on a T1 at work, tat is saturated cos of the social plan they have put in place
[03:42] <phoenixbyrd> HEEEEEEEEEEELP!
[03:43] <phoenixbyrd> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:43] <phoenixbyrd> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[03:43] <phoenixbyrd> vmware says that
[03:43] <aftertaf> (ie 3/4 of people are geoing to be made redundant and are surfing for new jobs all day long)
[03:43] <nikkia> aftertaf: social plan == let everyone download porn ? :)
[03:43] <aftertaf> lol :)
[03:43] <aftertaf> probably
[03:44] <nikkia> we have a crappy 512k connection at work, which is often saturated when the 'people upstairs' (ie, semi-management) are on the web :/
[03:44] <aftertaf> Ben1984:  you got both universe and multverse? and youve done update?
[03:44] <nikkia> its gotten so bad i use my personal web-space to supply software to customers
[03:44] <aftertaf> lol
[03:45] <nikkia> aftertaf: well, it boils down to: saturated 512kbps connection with local ftp server, or non-saturated OC-12 with a 20-40 minute delay in having to upload
[03:46] <Ben1984> i have universe
[03:46] <Ben1984> multiverse wasnt on the list
[03:46] <Ben1984> getting the plugins now
[03:47] <aftertaf> you can put multiverse too.....
[03:47] <aftertaf> more un to be had
[03:47] <aftertaf> *fun
[03:47] <Ben1984> yay more games!
[03:47] <aftertaf> exact ;)
[03:47] <aftertaf> frozen bubble
[03:47] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:48] <Hobbsee> pingus and planetpenguin-racer
[03:48] <Hobbsee> and tuxkart, of course
[03:48] <Ben1984> ok...yes it works!
[03:49] <Hobbsee> :D
[03:50] <Toma-> when entering a root password for say kynaptic or synaptic, shouldnt the root password dialog box keep focus?
[03:51] <Ben1984> ahhh...music
[03:51] <Hobbsee> keep focus?
[03:51] <Toma-> asin, all keyboard typing is in there
[03:51] <Toma-> umm
[03:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, it should
[03:51] <Hobbsee> unless another window opens after it
[03:51] <Toma-> i can get the dialog up, then change to another window and type still
[03:52] <Toma-> should i file a bug?
[03:53] <robin_2> is there a quick work-around to get flash working on my 64-bit kubuntu ?
[03:54] <robin_2> is it easy to install a 32-bit version of firefox?
[03:56] <aftertaf> depends on window manager config.
[03:56] <aftertaf> for focus^^^
[03:56] <Toma-> kwin ;)
[03:56] <Toma-> but for something like root dialogs, shouldnt it be controlled by ksudo?
[03:57] <Toma-> or whayever it is
[03:57] <Hobbsee> kdesu, you mean?
[03:57] <aftertaf> lol Ben1984
[03:57] <Toma-> yes
[03:58] <Ben1984> :o)
[03:58] <Ben1984> is there anyway to keep my folder views?
[03:58] <Ben1984> thats my last thing and i'll leave you guys be ....lol
[03:58] <Toma-> Settings > Save View profile
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:59] <Hobbsee> there arent many people around anyway, so you can stay
[03:59] <robin_2> nice, the libflash just crashes firefox..
[04:00] <Ben1984> nope
[04:00] <robin_2> why the hell is it in the repositories. if it won't work.
[04:00] <Ben1984> that doesnt work
[04:00] <Ben1984> its like they save for a second and then get all scrambled again
[04:00] <Ben1984> i have class in a n hour
[04:00] <Ben1984> an*
[04:00] <Ben1984> lol
[04:00] <Hobbsee> oh fun
[04:00] <Hobbsee> robin_2: file a bug report for it?
[04:01] <robin_2> Hobbsee: ok
[04:01] <Hobbsee> probably the quickest way to get it fixed
[04:01] <aftertaf> my laptop is burning hot underneath...
[04:01] <aftertaf> and ksensors wont work :/
[04:02] <aftertaf> probably a good thing :)
[04:02] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: why not?
[04:02] <aftertaf> dunno.
[04:02] <Hobbsee> and how hot's your laptop, on estimatoin?
[04:02] <aftertaf> i reboutid
[04:02] <Hobbsee> you have imsensors installed?
[04:02] <aftertaf> dunno....
[04:02] <aftertaf> underneath, scalding.
[04:02] <aftertaf> lol
[04:03] <Hobbsee> this laptop starts at about 45c, and goes up to at least 80 when running intensive games, like sims 2
[04:03] <Hobbsee> toshiba satellites are known for overheating though, which is a pity
[04:03] <aftertaf> it is installed.
[04:03] <aftertaf> but does it need configging?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> try running ksensors
[04:04] <Hobbsee> and you should be able to configure from there
[04:04] <aftertaf> i did, empty window
[04:04] <Hobbsee> really?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> it used to work
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hmmm...another kernel update
[04:05] <aftertaf> i just get the empty window.
[04:05] <aftertaf> anyway, nose off the grindstone. im off home for family fun and life :)
[04:05] <aftertaf> yeah...........
[04:05] <aftertaf> catch y'all laters ;)
[04:06] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:07] <os2mac> what is adept? a replace ment for kynaptic?
[04:08] <Hobbsee> !adept
[04:08] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[04:08] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:08] <Ben1984> i like it :P
[04:09] <mornfall> Ben1984: if that year in your nick is a birth-year, you are older than me! dang
[04:09] <Ben1984> < 21
[04:09] <Ben1984> oooo i like aMSN
[04:10] <Hobbsee> mornfall: you'll still be older than me, i'll bet, so dont worry
[04:10] <Ben1984> looks just like the windo...um..nevermind <grin>
[04:10] <Ben1984> Hobb how old?
[04:10] <mornfall> i don't worry
[04:11] <Hobbsee> 17
[04:11] <Ben1984> i can see who's deleted me from their list!!
[04:11] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:11] <Hobbsee> you can from gaim too
[04:11] <Hobbsee> not kopete thogh
[04:11] <Ben1984> ugh....oh well..some i never talk to anymore anyway
[04:11] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:11] <Hobbsee> nite all, it's past midnight, and the parents will get cranky soon if they see the computer light...
[04:12] <Ben1984> its 8 AM here
[04:12] <Ben1984> :P
[04:12] <Ben1984> later
[04:12] <Ben1984> thanks for your help
[04:12] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:12] <Hobbsee> i'll probably procrastinate tomorrow as well and come here lol
[04:12] <Ben1984> cool
[04:14] <os2mac1969> I take it that adept is not on the Breezy Kubuntu Live CD?
[04:16] <Toma-> website says it is
[04:16] <beast> adept is on the live cd
[04:17] <os2mac1969> hmmm... because the only package manager I see on the menu is kynaptic
[04:17] <beast> should be under system
[04:17] <Toma-> oooooo it has usplash! <3
[04:25] <chris_> If I have an application running on on an x server and I ssh into that box as the same user, is it possible to forward that app to the new box?
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> only if you start if from the new box afaik
[04:26] <chris_> darn.
[04:26] <Toma-> vnc would be better chris_ ....
[04:27] <chris_> I just shut the app down;) vnc isn't setup and it's a PITA to do so at this juncture;)
[04:28] <Toma-> rightio
[04:28] <chris_> thanks for the info though.
[04:32] <beast> anyone every get "Can't open display" when trying to run xcompmgr?
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you run it from a root shell/ other user shell?
[04:33] <beast> i tried both
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> run it from your shell with sudo
[04:35] <beast> yes, same
[04:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... ok
[04:42] <ecp> hello
[04:47] <`Nomad> Sorry if this must have been asked often I'm sure, but what is teh best way to install nvidia drivers on Breezy?  I'm just instalkling them through adept right now
[04:47] <`Nomad> is that it?
[04:48] <Toma-> yep
[04:48] <`Nomad> ok, thanks :)
[04:48] <`Nomad> A reboot afterwards I guess
[04:49] <`Nomad> and any suggestion for an OS X liek docker?   ksmoothdock doesn't seem to be stable for me yet
[04:49] <hussam> `Nomad: install nvidia-glx , Linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-settings
[04:49] <hussam> `Nomad: then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:49] <`Nomad> hussam: Great, thanks
[04:49] <hussam> `Nomad: that
[04:50] <hussam> `Nomad: that's according to http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[04:52] <`Nomad> thanks.. rebooting now.. I have trouble with adpet, it crashes often for me
[04:52] <`Nomad> adept, eorry. I need coffee
[04:53] <hussam> I have a question. At the university we have fedora and there's a bootup service that allows using the mouse in cli, is that avialable for Kubuntu as well?
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> there is an app for that
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> i forget the name exactly - g something
[04:55] <mornfall> gpm?
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[04:57] <os2mac> how do I tell what version of Kubuntu I am runny?
[04:57] <hussam> thanks, I'll install it now
[05:00] <os2mac> anyone?
[05:01] <hussam> Kamping_Kaiser, mornfall: I installed gpm. It's gotta come in handy sometime.
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol hussam :)
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> os2mac: not sure about a gui way. only a terminal
[05:02] <os2mac> ok I did a uname -a
[05:02] <os2mac> and it returned this
[05:04] <sproingie> os2mac: cat /etc/issue
[05:04] <sproingie> os2mac: to get the version of kde, use "about kde" in the help menu of any kde app
[05:07] <os2mac> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:07] <os2mac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/389120
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> your running breezy or an updated hoary
[05:07] <os2mac> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> same answer
[05:08] <os2mac> because I have had several people tell me that things are on this CD (live) that are not here... trying to make sure I am current
[05:09] <os2mac> Adept for instance...
[05:10] <os2mac> I came in here earlier noticed the topic and asked what adept was... got the answer and then went looking for it in the menu and didn't see it....I had to install it from apt-get
[05:29] <thompa> i just tried kubuntu install and had some issues that i did not have in ubuntu. i am usually a kde user too
[05:30] <Riddell> thompa: what issues?
[05:30] <thompa> Hi Riddell, I had network setup problems and package install problems.
[05:31] <Riddell> thompa: what were the install problems?
[05:32] <thompa> thanks Riddell: i had both ubuntu and kubuntu cds. Kubuntu hung a few times on install first
[05:32] <Riddell> thompa: at what stage during install?
[05:32] <thompa> was not the disk i think, i burned a few copies all same
[05:32] <thompa> 6% base install
[05:33] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:33] <thompa> i eventually just tried again and third time worked, but then i had network setup problems with wireless. not really a problem sorry
[05:34] <thompa> Riddell: how do you setup network in kubuntu?
[05:35] <Riddell> thompa: system settings->network
[05:35] <Riddell> thompa: breezy or hoary?
[05:35] <thompa> i tried that and could not get my wireless to work. breezy
[05:35] <Riddell> thompa: install probdlems will mean it's a bad CD, the installer is exactly the same on ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:36] <thompa> i understand that, maybe it was a bad image
[05:36] <thompa> i took it directly from distrowatch and burned a few
[05:37] <thompa> Riddell: i used k3b and everything checked out. the ubuntu cds worked better though. thats why im cunfused
[05:38] <thompa> I dont mean to complain. I come from using only kde, but ubuntu setup wireless in one click on gui, is it same in kubuntu?
[05:39] <thompa> also the fonts were worse in kubuntu and i could not manage to install packages, i hope it was the install iso only
[05:45] <thompa> Riddell: would some of the setup functions be different in kubuntu, like network? I know the package management is. both use apt though
[05:46] <Riddell> thompa: network is setup up on install the same, then there's different configuration tools when running
[05:46] <Riddell> thompa: what didn't work about systemsettings->network?
[05:46] <Riddell> thompa: what was worse about the fonts?
[05:46] <Riddell> thompa: why couldn't you manage to install packages?
[05:48] <thompa> Riddell: first i had some graphic issues so it was hard to see, 2nd: it did not find my network cards..both wireless, one in notebook intel pro, the other here on PC.
[05:49] <thompa> the fonts seemed like they were not antialiased properly but i tried tweaking them, they seemed a little too scratchy or something
[05:50] <thompa> Riddell: what fonts are you using for menus? are they the default ones?
[05:51] <Riddell> thompa: vera
[05:51] <thompa> thats what i had
[05:54] <thompa> Riddell: I had trouble fnding the extra repos in the package installer too, do i have to type them in manually?
[06:01] <kbrooks> is kubuntu crippled?
[06:01] <buz> how long will it take to create a 6 *200GB raid5 array=
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> kbrooks: ??
[06:02] <buz> kbrooks: no
[06:03] <kbrooks> Kamping_Kaiser: a ubuntu user claims that ubuntu sets up his pcs better
[06:03] <kbrooks> no problems. just works
[06:03] <buz> it's the same, really
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> same backend. just userland things are different
[06:03] <buz> only that ubuntu uses gnome wheres kubuntu kde
[06:04] <kbrooks> buz: then why was network one click for the ubuntu user in ubuntu, yet harder in kubuntu?
[06:04] <buz> ?
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> more then 1 click here
[06:04] <kbrooks> Kamping_Kaiser: why?
[06:04] <buz> zero click?
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2 clicks for menus, and 1 click to launch the network app
[06:04] <buz> dhcp just worked
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> +setup
[06:05] <buz> my network just worked after install
[06:05] <kbrooks> "also i could not seem to add repos as easily as here, and irc did not work so i could not get help"
[06:05] <kbrooks> the ubuntu user said that
[06:05] <buz> you can use the very same software on kubuntu you know
[06:05] <rikva> he is right - synaptic is different on kubuntu with adding repos
[06:06] <buz> huuh?
[06:06] <kbrooks> Yup.
[06:06] <buz> synaptic is synaptic no?
[06:06] <rikva> check the wiki
[06:06] <kbrooks> kynaptic
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, ill go with that (mind you, i use a cli, so i dont know [ks] ynaptic well)
[06:06] <buz> Kynaptic is something else
[06:06] <rikva> <-- off to eat
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> buz: kynaptic is the kde rippoff of synaptic
[06:06] <buz> but nothing stops you from installing synaptic (kynaptic sucks, reallY)
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> and a bad one at that
[06:07] <buz> if i know the package name, i do so
[06:07] <buz> but often i need to figure the correct spelling first
[06:07] <buz> gui is easier for that
[06:07] <kbrooks> why does kynaptic suck if i may ask
[06:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just search a bit and grep it through another bit, missing teh hard to spell bit :)
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> kbrooks: same, ;)
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> its got bugger all features
[06:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> for a start ;O
[06:08] <buz> and the ones it has are buggy
[06:08] <buz> luckily, adept is quite useable
[06:08] <kbrooks> buz: such as?
[06:08] <kbrooks> what's adept?
[06:08] <buz> it did weird things on my machine, anyway
[06:08] <buz> breezy's replacement for kynaptic
[06:08] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: your 3.4.3 packages are working great for me, sorry I didn't get around to mentioning that sooner
[06:08] <buz> !adept
[06:08] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[06:09] <kbrooks> ok
[06:11] <kasim> hi there, i have dependancy problems with upgradind from hoary to breezy, which i somehow can not fix manually
[06:12] <kasim> apt-get -f install does not help either
[06:12] <kasim> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:12] <kasim>   adept: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not going to be installed
[06:12] <kasim>          Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not going to be installed
[06:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> kasim: can you manualy install libqt3-mt?
[06:14] <Riddell> kasim: which sort of upgrade?
[06:15] <kasim> "normal" apt-get dist-upgrade, i can not install libqt3-mt
[06:15] <Riddell> kasim: what happens when you try to install just libqt3-mt
[06:16] <kasim> root@ubuntu:~# dpkg -i libqt3-mt
[06:16] <kasim> dpkg: error processing libqt3-mt (--install):
[06:16] <kasim>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:16] <kasim> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:16] <kasim>  libqt3-mt
[06:16] <Riddell> kasim: apt-get install libqt3-mt
[06:17] <kasim> Riddell: that gives me tons of Depends problems
[06:18] <Riddell> kasim: paste them in kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:18] <kasim> like i pasted the adept: line above
[06:20] <kasim> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/389187
[06:22] <Riddell> I hate how with this sort of problem, you have to keep digging until it tells you what is the real problem
[06:22] <Riddell> kasim: I'm going to be testing hoary->breezy upgrades later today, I'll let you know how I get on
[06:23] <kasim> Riddell: I sit on a WORKING breezy and that was updated that way. with some manuall things some time ago. This new one is very tough :=(
[06:23] <sorush20> how do I make my printer in kde into a network printer..
[06:23] <sorush20> how can I log in as root user in kde
[06:24] <sorush20> ?
[06:24] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: I have upgraded two machines from Hoary to Breezy, with minimal problems
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you dont log in as root
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> as for printer sharing, im not sure
[06:27] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: only problems I had were having to reinstall/reconfigure usplash, and on one machine (not a fresh Hoary machine) I had to upgrade/install kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-default-settings after the dist-upgrade.
[06:27] <kasim> should i try --force-yes ?
[06:28] <philipacamaniac> sorush20: don't use root, use "sudo" and then the command
[06:29] <_pablo> Question: Is "/boot/grub/menu.lst" the boot parameter in ubuntu?
[06:31] <kasim> _pablo: no but you put boot parametes in here
[06:31] <kasim> at the kernel line
[06:31] <_pablo> and wer i put the command acpi=off
[06:31] <kasim> exactly there
[06:32] <_pablo> is it important in which line?
[06:32] <philipacamaniac> damn freenode
[06:33] <kasim> _pablo: that line starting with "kernel", you have to pick your correct kernel and write acpi=off behind
[06:33] <_pablo> kasim: thx very much
[06:33] <kasim> kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686 root=/dev/hdc3 ro quiet splash acpi=off
[06:34] <philipacamaniac> sorush20: regarding printers. Press Alt-F2 and type kdesu kcontrol. Then go to "Internet and Network -> Samba"
[06:34] <philipacamaniac> sorush20: choose the Printers tab and you can add new printer shares
[06:35] <kasim> folks, sorry if i insist, but i have a huge dist-upgrade problem and have no idea how to proceed. pls see http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/389187
[06:36] <sorush20> philipacamaniac: thanks so much..
[06:36] <philipacamaniac> sorush20: np
[06:37] <philipacamaniac> kasim: what happens when you sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2
[06:37] <kasim> the same, i have "sudo -s" btw
[06:38] <philipacamaniac> yeah noticed that
[06:38] <kasim> should|can  i somehow force the install?
[06:40] <phoenixbyrd> how do I turn dma on for my cd drive?
[06:40] <robin_2> phoenixbyrd: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (where hdc is your cdrom)
[06:40] <phoenixbyrd> tyty
[06:41] <philipacamaniac> kasim: I notice some version weirdness. Do you have the KDE 3.4.3 repo in your sources.list?
[06:41] <kasim> yes
[06:41] <kasim> i upgraded another pc (the one im on now) to that today
[06:42] <philipacamaniac> and you haven't yet upgraded to breezy
[06:42] <kasim> all on breezy
[06:42] <kasim> on the working PC i have now a kde 3.4.2
[06:42] <kasim> 3.4.3 sorry
[06:43] <philipacamaniac> but on the pc with depend problems, you have hoary, yes?
[06:43] <phoenixbyrd> ARGH! why does k3b keep hanging on me when I goto write an iso to a cd :((
[06:43] <phoenixbyrd> does threatening an app help make it work better?
[06:43] <libben> dma on?
[06:43] <kasim> philipacamaniac: it was hoary when i started the upgrade. i have the same source.list (official de. mirrors)
[06:43] <phoenixbyrd> yea, just turned dma on
[06:44] <kasim> deb     http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:44] <philipacamaniac> kasim: anyway, I would try to upgrade to breezy BEFORE installing KDE 3.4.3, so remove the 3.4.3 repo out of your sources.list, update and try to upgrade again
[06:45] <kasim> but how? i pasted above what i have in source.list
[06:45] <philipacamaniac> that's all?
[06:45] <philipacamaniac> oh
[06:46] <kasim> i have more lines, one second ...
[06:46] <kasim> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/389201
[06:47] <phoenixbyrd> is there a way to burn an iso from the cli?
[06:47] <philipacamaniac> so actually you're installing 3.4.2, which is correct
[06:47] <kasim> i just noticed today (upgrading the working one) that i do have 3.4.3 kde
[06:47] <philipacamaniac> phoenixbyrd: man cdrecord
[06:48] <kasim> i didn't even know there was a kde 3.4.3
[06:48] <phoenixbyrd> philipacamaniac: ty
[06:49] <philipacamaniac> kasim: well, hmm
[06:49] <philipacamaniac> kasim: 3.4.2 was in breezy until today I guess
[06:50] <kasim> ja, must have changed very reacently. can i force to 3.4.2 somehow?
[06:50] <philipacamaniac> kasim: it seems the 3.4.3 bug upgrade was merged into breezy before release
[06:50] <philipacamaniac> kasim: dont think so
[06:50] <kasim> anyway, have no clue what to do now :=(
[06:51] <philipacamaniac> yeah, I'm lost
[06:51] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: why are certain packages still version 3.4.2, and some 3.4.3?
[06:52] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: like which?
[06:52] <kasim> agree my konqueror is still 3.4.2
[06:52] <Riddell> kasim: kdebase was only updated this morning
[06:52] <Riddell> should be 3.4.3 now
[06:52] <kasim> i was hope it to be stable since breezy is on RC level
[06:53] <Riddell> kasim: blame the KDE release cycle
[06:53] <pussfeller> i upgraded to breezy and now getting unmet errors about libfontconfig
[06:53] <pussfeller> whats up with that
[06:53] <kasim> pussfeller: welcome, we are just discussing that
[06:53] <philipacamaniac> RIddell: kate, for example, is 3.4.2-0ubuntu5 in the repo
[06:53] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: 3.4.3 will filter through soon
[06:53] <Riddell> also kdebase
[06:53] <pussfeller> ah its good not to be alone
[06:54] <philipacamaniac> excellent, so kasim - just wait a few hours
[06:54] <kasim> philipacamaniac: you mean, wait, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[06:55] <philipacamaniac> I believe so, yes
[06:55] <philipacamaniac> the repos are in the process of a huge kde update
[06:55] <Riddell> yep
[06:55] <kasim> ok i have no other choice anyways
[06:56] <pussfeller> so this is something that is fixed and just redo in a few hours?
[06:57] <kasim> pussfeller: i have other dep-probs, but it seems to be related to same secret kde upgrade from 3.4.2 to 3.4.3
[06:58] <spiral> hi
[06:58] <pussfeller> this seems xorg related
[06:58] <pussfeller> a dev package for libfontconfig
[07:00] <kasim> OT: is there no such thing as transactions for the repo-servers?
[07:02] <poimen> I thied to install kubuntu and it frezed , also mandriv and suse did but them got to install with the linux noapic option on instaltion. But kubuntu did not work with that what should I do?
[07:04] <Riddell> poimen: tried  acpi=off  ?
[07:04] <poimen> acpi?
[07:04] <poimen> that is th epower management
[07:04] <poimen> ?
[07:04] <Riddell> yes
[07:05] <kasim> poimen: which kernel?
[07:10] <poimen> the one on the last beta before the rc
[07:10] <kasim> poimen: uname -a will tell you
[07:11] <poimen> I am in mandriva right now
[07:11] <poimen> btw I am downloading the rc
[07:11] <poimen> I will try with ubuntu this time
[07:11] <kasim> poimen: if its 2.6.11-1-686 you could try kernel option "noinotify". It freezes for me otherwise
[07:12] <poimen> ok brb
[07:12] <kasim> poimen: i take that back, could have been some older kernel,
[07:17] <spiral> I wanna kill the devs of amaroK...
[07:18] <spiral> they do releases anytime, and no one is ever buildable the same way...
[07:19] <Tm_T> wtf
[07:19] <Tm_T> spiral: I compile amarok daily
[07:19] <Tm_T> working fine here
[07:19] <spiral> Tm_T: do you do .debs ?
[07:19] <Tm_T> no
[07:19] <spiral> Tm_T: because with debuild & so on, it's quite a mess...
[07:20] <Tm_T> oh
[07:20] <TokenBad> well updated to breezy
[07:20] <TokenBad> and it seems faster
[07:20] <Tm_T> spiral: so whining here doesn't help, try #amarok ;)
[07:20] <phoenixbyrd> any good partition apps for linux?
[07:21] <Tm_T> phoenixbyrd: fdisk, qtparted
[07:21] <Tm_T> yes, many ;)
[07:21] <phoenixbyrd> I need to make a 10GB partition
[07:21] <phoenixbyrd> qtparted is a gui?
[07:21] <Tm_T> yes
[07:21] <phoenixbyrd> k
[07:22] <phoenixbyrd> parted easy to use?
[07:22] <phoenixbyrd> I won't kill myself after using it?
[07:22] <Tm_T> you will, it's too easy ;)
[07:22] <phoenixbyrd> lol
[07:22] <asraniel> hi there. is there a way to tell dhclient that on startup it should only take the ip from the dhcp server, but keep the dns severs?
[07:23] <kasim> asraniel: dhcp is broadcast, it takes the first server answering. do i understand your question?
[07:25] <asraniel> kasim: no. my problem is that my router gives me a wrong DNS server. i have to set the dns manualy in resolv.conf. but on every restart resolv.conf gets overwritten
[07:26] <kasim> asraniel: i think thats bad luck. if you had a real dhcpd-server answering you could configure
[07:26] <asraniel> well, under mandriva its possible
[07:26] <asraniel> under mandriva its just a little checkbox in the network configuration
[07:27] <kasim> you want a sort of hybrid, take the IP form that box, and the DNS-server-entry from some other place
[07:27] <asraniel> kasim: exact
[07:27] <asraniel> making resolv.conf read only doesent change anything
[07:28] <kasim> I have ipcop as "real" dhcpd-server to hand out IPs and the nameserver-entry, but i dont know how to make dhclient to select on parts
[07:29] <kasim> asraniel: you cant tell the box to give the correct DNS, you can pass multiple DNS-servers too
[07:30] <matrix> hi i like to install kzenexplorer but it complayns that no libnjb4 is available
[07:31] <asraniel> kasim: i cant change the DNS that my router gives, its fix, tried it many times
[07:32] <elvirolo> hi all
[07:32] <OculusAquilae> hi elvirolo
[07:32] <elvirolo> is there a way of installing the whole of KDE 3.5 beta 1 (excluding compitation) ?
[07:32] <kasim> asraniel: sorry, dont know more. if the network is small and stable, i'd use static IPs
[07:34] <asraniel> then the router wont route me because he only routes IP's he gave via dhcp
[07:36] <matrix> i only see libnjb5 in the directory tree, but dont know how to make kzenexplorer use it
[07:36] <elvirolo> please, ideas anyone?
[07:45] <robin_2> hmm, I don't know what they did, but if connect my usbstick, konqueror opens two windows with media:/sde1 (while it is in fact mounted at media:/usbstick) and if i reconnect, it open media:/sdf1 (while it is again mounted at media:/usbstick)..
[07:45] <robin_2> didn't happen when I installed RC1 a couple a days ago.
[07:46] <robin_2> another thing, If I use kaffeine with xine-engine.. it crashes when I click on the folder icon (to open another file) while it is playing a movie.
[07:47] <elvirolo> i'm experiencing both your probs robin_2
[07:49] <Nakkel> any ideas how to get 5.1 sound out in kubuntu? front, rear and subwoofer are working fine but I get no sound from my center speaker
[07:49] <robin_2> elvirolo: did you report it on bugzilla?
[07:50] <elvirolo> robin_2, no but i'm sure many people have cause there are many threads on that topic in the forum
[07:50] <robin_2> elvirolo: ok, I will check the forums.
[07:51] <robin_2> another problem is that if I use xine with xine-ui, it crashes when I go to fullscreen. some glibc error about double free()..
[07:53] <Octane> are there any kde 3.5 packages for amd64?
[08:01] <pussfeller> so is using apt-get -f going to mess things up over these libfontconfig dep issues?
[08:04] <TokenBad> after updating to breezy
[08:05] <TokenBad> do I need to reinstall nvidia drivers?
[08:05] <TokenBad> cause now screensavers that need opengl aren't working
[08:05] <TokenBad> when they did before
[08:06] <The_Vox> TokenBad: your kernel changed, so...yes
[08:07] <TokenBad> ok how should I do that
[08:07] <TokenBad> download from nvidia site?
[08:07] <TokenBad> cause before i did it through apt-get
[08:07] <satafterh> had kde and gnone installed, getting rid of gnome, does kubuntu need gnome-panel
[08:08] <The_Vox> satafterh: no
[08:08] <satafterh> thanks
[08:08] <The_Vox> TokenBad: did you check your xorg.conf file?
[08:08] <The_Vox> TokenBad: because if you did it with apt before, it should have been updated when you updated to breezy
[08:09] <TokenBad> check it for what?
[08:14] <The_Vox> TokenBad: that it's still loading the nvidia driver...it may have been moded during the upgrade and it's just not loading the driver
[08:15] <Octane> are there any devs here
[08:17] <TokenBad> ection "Device"
[08:17] <TokenBad>         Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700 LE] "
[08:17] <TokenBad>         Driver          "nv"
[08:17] <TokenBad>         BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"
[08:18] <The_Vox> TokenBad: it's not loading the nvidia driver, it's loading the nv driver, which doesn't have 3d accel
[08:18] <The_Vox> TokenBad: change the "nv" to "nvidia" and restart X...it should work
[08:22] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[08:23] <Flying_Eagle> i did sth (almost) stupid. i wanted to move my _complete_ home-dir from hoary to breezy. this actually doesnt work...
[08:23] <Flying_Eagle> where is the skelleton used, when creating a new user
[08:23] <Flying_Eagle> ?
[08:26] <TokenBad> no dice
[08:26] <TokenBad> still not work
[08:26] <The_Vox> Flying_Eagle: /etc/skel
[08:26] <Flying_Eagle> thanks, The_Vox
[08:26] <The_Vox> TokenBad: you changed the nv to nvidia?
[08:27] <TokenBad> yes
[08:27] <The_Vox> TokenBad: and is the nvidia module loaded?
[08:27] <TokenBad> I logged out
[08:27] <TokenBad> and reloaded
[08:27] <The_Vox> type: lsmod | grep nvidia
[08:28] <TokenBad> nvidia_agp              7964  1
[08:28] <TokenBad> nvidia               3711364  0
[08:28] <TokenBad> agpgart                32328  2 nvidia_agp,nvidia
[08:29] <The_Vox> TokenBad: uhm....that should be working...you certain that you changed the nv to nvidia?
[08:30] <vicks> anyone know how the status on the effort to port firefox to qt?
[08:30] <TokenBad> yes
[08:30] <TokenBad> I am looking at the file now
[08:30] <libben> http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,711332,00.html
[08:30] <TokenBad> Section "Device"
[08:30] <TokenBad>         Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700 LE] "
[08:30] <TokenBad>         Driver          "nvidia"
[08:30] <TokenBad>         BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"
[08:31] <The_Vox> TokenBad: I don't understand what's going on...it should be working
[08:31] <TokenBad> well doing some research online
[08:31] <TokenBad> and seems I am not the only one
[08:31] <Rogue_Jedi_X> It must be those crazy cyber-monkey again
[08:32] <TokenBad> and there seems to have been a long drawn out proccess
[08:33] <TokenBad> like regetting the drivers from the nvidia site
[08:33] <TokenBad> then doing some other crap
[08:33] <TokenBad> now if I get the drivers from the nvida site
[08:33] <TokenBad> which ones do I get
[08:34] <The_Vox> the latest i386 ones
[08:36] <TokenBad> ok
[08:36] <TokenBad> now how install
[08:39] <StR> Hi all!
[08:41] <TokenBad> ok
[08:41] <TokenBad> I tried what it said
[08:41] <TokenBad> about ctrl-alt-f1
[08:41] <TokenBad> and login
[08:41] <TokenBad> but it complains about me running an X server
[08:42] <m0ns00n> Why doesn't the nvidia glx drivers suddenly work with RenderAccel in Breezy?
[08:42] <m0ns00n> This is the legacy drivers
[08:42] <m0ns00n> (the nvidia-glx package obviously doesn't work ;-)
[08:48] <`Nomad> New Breezy install.. Can't handle mp3s.  What is needed, mpeglib ?
[08:49] <inc|freaky> my linux cant handle all mp3s which windows can handle there seem to be some codecs missing
[08:49] <inc|freaky> some not really legal ones
[08:49] <inc|freaky> cant find any website
[08:49] <inc|freaky> that sucks ^^
[08:49] <inc|freaky> all my nice mp3s
[08:49] <mars> Where in de can i change resolution of the screen? I cant find it
[08:50] <`Nomad> inc: It will handle it, we just need to have teh proper softwares installed..
[08:50] <robin_2> inc|freaky: you have installed the packages that are mentioned here: aknode, and gstreamer-mad
[08:50] <`Nomad> mars:  Right-click on teh desktop, choose "configure Desktop", and then pick Display on teh left
[08:50] <inc|freaky> apt-get cant find aknode
[08:51] <RezDawg|> If Im running a AMD 2500+ cpu can I installed 686 kernel?
[08:51] <robin_2> inc|freaky: hmm i'm spelling it incorrectly..
[08:51] <robin_2> inc|freaky: wait a sec.
[08:51] <nalioth> inc|freaky: then those mp3s are nonstandard
[08:51] <inc|freaky> awkay ;D
[08:51] <inc|freaky> nalioth: yes tahts right thats my problem ;)
[08:51] <nalioth> inc|freaky: nonstandard is evil
[08:52] <inc|freaky> nalioth: im evil wooh ;D
[08:52] <inc|freaky> just wanna listen to my mp3s ;)
[08:52] <nalioth> inc|freaky: dont buy DRM'd mp3s
[08:52] <robin_2> inc|freaky: anyway you installed gstreamer-mad/
[08:52] <inc|freaky> robin_: yes i did ;)
[08:52] <robin_2> inc|freaky: and it still won't work
[08:52] <inc|freaky> no :(
[08:52] <inc|freaky> some mp3s work though
[08:52] <inc|freaky> most work
[08:53] <inc|freaky> just some not
[08:53] <robin_2> inc|freaky: hmm, what so special about those ones?
[08:53] <inc|freaky> i downloaded them using kazaa ;D
[08:53] <robin_2> inc|freaky:  so they are fucked up
[08:53] <inc|freaky> in windows they work :D
[08:53] <robin_2> inc|freaky: oh ok.
[08:54] <inc|freaky> i installed kazaa codec pack in windows though
[08:54] <inc|freaky> dunno if that exists for linux brb, looking
[08:55] <mars> I installed my new kubuntu, cause i had to format my disk, Can somebody send me own sources.list file ? To my mail?
[08:55] <inc|freaky> no doesnt :(
[08:55] <robin_2> inc|freaky: oh yeah akode was it..
[08:55] <inc|freaky> awkay will downlaod it
[08:55] <inc|freaky> umm, install ;D
[08:56] <mornfall> kasim: you may want to try aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:56] <inc|freaky> got akode installed
[08:56] <mornfall> kasim: it will get it "more right", usually
[08:56] <mornfall> kasim: (but you may need breezy version of it, first)
[08:56] <robin_2> inc|freaky: anyway I haven't had any problems playing mp3's.. and those are mostly download from newsgroups. :)
[08:56] <puckman> weird
[08:56] <inc|freaky> hm :\
[08:56] <mornfall> kasim: (so first apt-get install apt aptitude) or somesuch
[08:57] <puckman> after having used ubuntu 5.04 for ages
[08:57] <kasim> mornfall: i always used apt-get, why try somthing else its a frontend to dpkg
[08:58] <mornfall> kasim: aptitude is an libapt-pkg frontend that improves on the apt algorithms somewhat
[08:58] <mornfall> kasim: so why not
[08:58] <kasim> mornfall: so honestly because everything is difficult enought with new stuff
[08:58] <kasim> s/with/without
[08:59] <mornfall> kasim: hmm, why you ask for a hint if you refuse to listen, then?
[08:59] <puckman> Does anyone know what the status is of the admin bug?
[08:59] <puckman> I mean, where most of the time you cant get into administrator mode to change configurations.
[09:00] <kasim> mornfall: came on mornfall, if i go for a new thing, i have more troubes usually. apt-get is (imho) the default for ubuntu
[09:01] <mornfall> kasim: *shrug* i'd assume that since apt can't handle it (obviously) you would try something with better chances of succeeding =)
[09:01] <kasim> is your aptitude a CLI tool?
[09:01] <phanter> hello, I just migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu. works great!
[09:02] <Chousuke> kasim: aptitude is default :/
[09:02] <Chousuke> or either of them, really.
[09:02] <kasim> mornfall: since i cant install anything it wont be easier with a new frontend. ok lets see what i get ...
[09:03] <phanter> how can I startup a program automaticly after I login in kde
[09:04] <spiral> phanter: ~/.kde/Autostart
 oke, thanks. There is no program (GUI) who can do this job ?
[09:05] <spiral> phanter: dunno, but it's not that hard, you just have to put a shortcut or script there...
[09:06] <spiral> maybe there's a gui, but I've been doing this way for years
[09:06] <phanter> spiral: how do I make a shortcut?
[09:07] <spiral> phanter: you can either put a symlink, create a script, or drag & drop a shortcut from let's say the k menu in this folder
[09:07] <phanter> spiral: I found it.... wow that kde works great (I used gnome for a couple of years, but now I am impressed)
[09:07] <spiral> :-)
[09:07] <`Nomad> lol
[09:08] <`Nomad> KDE rules
[09:09] <kalenedrael> Yes, KDE is nice.
[09:09] <mars> No
[09:09] <mars> KDE is not nice
[09:09] <mars> KDE is the best :)
[09:10] <kalenedrael> Yes, it is.
[09:10] <phanter> if I switch between desktops I still see the desktop-click-buttons-for-running-programs from programs that are active in an other desktop. How can I change this?
[09:10] <robin_2> phanter: yeah gnome looks obsolete
[09:10] <kalenedrael> You go to the control center
[09:10] <phanter> kalenedrael: system settings ?
[09:10] <kalenedrael> I dunno, I'm checking.
[09:11] <TokenBad> ok
[09:11] <TokenBad> question
[09:11] <TokenBad> when I updated breezy
[09:11] <TokenBad> it installed gnome
[09:11] <TokenBad> so now can boot into gnome and kde
[09:12] <TokenBad> in gnome I can use my open gl graphics
[09:12] <kalenedrael> Control center -> Taskbar
[09:12] <kalenedrael> Err...
[09:12] <kalenedrael> Control center -> Desktop -> Taskbar
[09:12] <TokenBad> I boot into KDE
[09:12] <TokenBad> and it can't
[09:12] <TokenBad> any idea's on this?
[09:12] <kalenedrael> Un-check 'Show windows from all desktops'
[09:12] <TokenBad> I want to use KDE
[09:12] <TokenBad> but it will not use open GL
[09:12] <phanter> kalenedrael: I do not find the control center. Where can I find it or should i install it?
[09:12] <kalenedrael> TokenBad, what driver are you using?
[09:12] <TokenBad> nvidia
[09:13] <kalenedrael> phanter, type 'kcontrol' at a console.
[09:13] <TokenBad> or so the x conf file says
[09:13] <kalenedrael> TokenBad, will X start at all, or is it just OpenGL that won't work?
[09:13] <TokenBad> kalenedrael, not sure
[09:13] <TokenBad> think its opengl
[09:13] <kalenedrael> I suggest reinstalling the drivers.
[09:13] <TokenBad> cause when tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers
[09:13] <TokenBad> it says can't cause X is running
[09:14] <kasim> mornfall: as expected, i cant install anything, with my broken installation including aptitude :=(
[09:15] <kalenedrael> TokenBad, stop X then :P
[09:15] <TokenBad> kalenedrael, how?
[09:15] <TokenBad> haven't stopped it before
[09:15] <kalenedrael> You use kde, right?
[09:15] <TokenBad> well in gnome right now
[09:15] <TokenBad> but want to use kde
[09:15] <TokenBad> if need to will boot back into kde
[09:16] <TokenBad> cause I was testing to see if open gl worked in gnome
[09:16] <kalenedrael> Ok, hit ctrl-alt-f2 to go to a full-screen console. Log in, then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[09:16] <TokenBad> which it does
[09:16] <kalenedrael> Hit alt-f7 to go back to X.
[09:16] <kalenedrael> (Er, well, X won't be running if you stop it.)
[09:16] <jrattner1> I want breezy's wireless and bluetooth support
[09:16] <TokenBad> ok I did that
[09:16] <TokenBad> and it told me it was still running
[09:16] <kalenedrael> Umm, odd.
[09:17] <kalenedrael> Are you running kdm or gdm?
[09:17] <TokenBad> mean before now anyway
[09:17] <TokenBad> well before it was prob kdm
[09:17] <TokenBad> which is prob why it didn't work
[09:17] <TokenBad> heheh
[09:17] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[09:17] <TokenBad> let me try now
[09:17] <TokenBad> with gdm
[09:17] <TokenBad> since in gnome now
[09:22] <FireBurnUK> Hi
[09:22] <TokenBad> ok got it to go further this time
[09:22] <FireBurnUK> A quick question for those in the know
[09:22] <TokenBad> but says something about the kernal
[09:22] <TokenBad> so assume need the headers
[09:22] <FireBurnUK> Does kubuntu support bluetooth input device out the box like ubuntu advertises?
[09:23] <TokenBad> whats the file name for the headers?
[09:23] <TokenBad> for the kernal?
[09:24] <crimsun> linux-headers-$(uname -r) is the package name.
[09:25] <TokenBad> thanks crimsun
[09:26] <mars> How to install deb files?
[09:27] <epzt> apt-get install ...
[09:29] <mars> ?
[09:29] <mars> yes
[09:29] <mars> but there is somethibg wrong with my respositories
[09:29] <mars> do i downloadefd opera.deb
[09:29] <mars> how can i intall it?
[09:29] <mars> install**
[09:29] <crimsun> sudo dpkg -i opera....deb
[09:30] <crimsun> replace "opera....deb" with the actual filename
[09:30] <elcuco> Riddell, here?
[09:31] <mars> ok thanks
[09:31] <elcuco> question to the channel:
[09:31] <elcuco> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17287
[09:32] <elcuco> is this as kubuntu bug or kde bug?
[09:32] <spiral> hmmm... please... does anyone know why gpg insults me about gpgme since I upgraded to kmail 3.4.3 via apt ?
[09:34] <TokenBad> ok
[09:34] <TokenBad> I got the headers
[09:34] <TokenBad> and tried to install the nvidia drivers
[09:34] <TokenBad> and says there is no linux kernal or something
[09:34] <TokenBad> and ask to try and get from their site
[09:34] <TokenBad> and says can't find it
[09:34] <TokenBad> any info on this?
[09:35] <TokenBad> umm
[09:36] <TokenBad> all of a sudden my open gl stuff is working
[09:36] <nalioth> TokenBad: get linux-source to match your kernel
[09:36] <TokenBad> yeah
[09:40] <sorush20> why do I keep getting access denied when I try to delete my files that are on my user space and not the root user space..
[09:41] <robin_2> sorush20: the files aren't opened by any program?
[09:42] <nalioth> sorush20: who deleted them?
[09:48] <SMiLeaf> Hi, I'm getting a seg fault while shutting down.
[09:49] <SMiLeaf> and there is alot to type.. but it has to do with halt
[09:53] <kasim> mornfall: seems to go better now. I deleted kaffeeine.mo package with --force-depends, could then do a apt-get -f install and can now upgrade to breezy
[09:54] <libben> http://www.framestore-cfc.com/press/05pr/051003noitulove/amv_gune339_050_qt.mov
[09:57] <sorush20> nalioth: no one deleted them I just keep getting access denied.. I don't understand why...?
[09:57] <nalioth> sorush20: run "ls -l filename" on them and see who owns them
[10:01] <sorush20> nalioth: I could just right click on them and find out the owner by the permission sections button right.., well I've done that I get me sam as the user.. so what now..
[10:03] <sorush20> here is what I get for the file that I'm trying to get rid of.. -rw-are--are--   1 sam  sam       25414 2005-10-10 20:11 merkel.jpg
[10:04] <MustafaTemizel> Hey! Pls write your comments ! > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30037
[10:04] <nalioth> sorush20: can you delete them usin sudo?
[10:05] <libben> http://www.yuretz.ru/prikol.php?id=471
[10:05] <TedLemon> Is anybody successfully using SMTP+SSL with kmail?
[10:06] <robin_2> MustafaTemizel: it's only a button?
[10:06] <MustafaTemizel> :)
[10:06] <MustafaTemizel> yeah
[10:06] <MustafaTemizel> and kkicker bacground
[10:06] <MustafaTemizel> background
[10:07] <robin_2> MustafaTemizel: hmm, well I like the default one. sry :)
[10:07] <MustafaTemizel> robin_2: :))
[10:07] <sorush20> nalioth: it is possible to delete using sudo konqueror.. but that seems very stupid... I don't know what the hell has happened..
[10:12] <Abysmal> how hard is it to convert a umbutu system to kubuntu??
[10:14] <nalioth> sorush20: it is not advised to open kde gui apps with root powers. if you desire to do it, type "kdese konqueror"
[10:14] <nalioth> Abysmal: by typing "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"     pretty easy, eh?
[10:14] <hussam> Abysmal: not sure about removing gnome but sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should give you all kubuntu packages.
[10:17] <Abysmal> thanks...
[10:18] <MustafaTemizel> What is Edubuntu's default desktop? Gnome or KDE?
[10:18] <Riddell> gnome
[10:18] <MustafaTemizel> thx Riddell
[10:19] <MustafaTemizel> I am finding Linspire Clear window style for Kubuntu
[10:19] <robin_2> anyone problems with kdeveloper designer ? It crashes immediatly when I try to run it.
[10:20] <Rev-Marc> how and where can I download KOffice, as a .deb as I know nothing about installing source files?
[10:20] <MustafaTemizel> robin_2:  I dont use it
[10:20] <robin_2> MustafaTemizel: ok.
[10:20] <MustafaTemizel> Rev-Marc: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <Rev-Marc> I will try that
[10:21] <robin_2> Rev-Marc: you can install it also with adept.
[10:21] <SMiLeaf> really needs to be an easier way to copy crashes on shutdown to a file :)
[10:21] <MustafaTemizel> yeah. adept is very useful
[10:21] <MustafaTemizel> easier than kynaptic
[10:21] <SMiLeaf> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/389435
[10:21] <robin_2> ye
[10:21] <robin_2> s
[10:22] <Rev-Marc> what is adept?
[10:22] <SMiLeaf> I think it has something to do with the fact that my mobo/cpu or something has a known problem with something to do with acpi or w/e .. I saw that error in 1 install I did
[10:22] <robin_2> Rev-Marc: new package manager in 5.10 (breeze).. it's a kde frontend to apt.
[10:22] <MustafaTemizel> 5.10 RC
[10:22] <robin_2> SMiLeaf: apm problems i think
[10:22] <SMiLeaf> robin_2: yah
[10:23] <robin_2> SMiLeaf: you can turn off apm with a kernel option I think.
[10:23] <SMiLeaf> apm=off was it?
[10:23] <MustafaTemizel> I am finding Linspire Clear window style deb package!!
[10:23] <robin_2> SMiLeaf: thought so, but you can lookup it up in the Documentation in the kernel source.
[10:24] <Rev-Marc> I found adept and put in KOffice and it found nothing
[10:24] <MustafaTemizel> bye
[10:26] <SMiLeaf> robin_2: yup .. apm=off
[10:27] <umberleigh> hi. does anyone know when final release date of kubuntu breezy is?
[10:28] <nalioth> umberleigh: oct 13
[10:29] <SMiLeaf> umm.. where is the grub config?..
[10:29] <umberleigh> the same as the main ubuntu release then :)
[10:29] <SMiLeaf> oh duh.. I see it .. sorry
[10:32] <TedLemon> Has anybody seen this error in kmail: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'smtps'.?
[10:35] <SMiLeaf> robin_2: no effect. still halt still seg faults on power off.. it's fine for a reboot tho.
[10:36] <SMiLeaf> call stack is twice as long tho :)
[10:36] <TokenBad> how many lang does kubuntu support
[10:37] <TokenBad> meaning how many lang packages does it come with by default
[10:37] <SMiLeaf> maybe I'll just compile my own kernel :/
[10:38] <SMiLeaf> still gotta figure out my audio card irq issue :)
[10:39] <SMiLeaf> anyone know how to do that?
[10:42] <bjornie> Hey, I'm trying to listen to MP3 in my new Kubuntu installation, but it doesn't work... Kaffeine says I don't have the right codecs, but as far as I know gstreamer is all I would really need?!
[10:45] <SMiLeaf> gstreamer I think is split up into seperate plugins.
[10:46] <bjornie> Yes, but I've installed gstreamer0.8-plugin from the resp... I've installed the -mad as well. Nothing seems to work
[10:59] <robin_2> what is the best way to report bugs, bugzilla.ubuntu.com or launchpad.net ?
[11:03] <Riddell> robin_2: bugzilla for main, launchpad for universe
[11:03] <Riddell> for the moment anyway
[11:03] <robin_2> Riddell: okay
[11:04] <robin_2> hmm, than I have to report my bug about kaffeine again on bugzilla.
[11:04] <inc|freaky> good night all ;D
[11:04] <robin_2> Riddell: thx.
[11:05] <robin_2> cya
[11:14] <lippel> hi
[11:14] <lippel> i use openoffice2 beta from breezy, and the font it uses is somewhat broken
[11:14] <lippel> http://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~f_osterf/temp/broken-oocalc.png
[11:14] <lippel> look at the "r"
[11:15] <lippel> anyone around with the same problem?
[11:15] <orugo> hey
[11:15] <orugo> how do i mount my windows partition in kubuntu?
[11:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orugo about mountwindows
[11:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orugo about windowsdrives
[11:17] <orugo> hey
[11:17] <orugo> ubotu rulez!!!
[11:17] <ubotu> orugo: I haven't a clue
[11:17] <orugo> ahahaha
[11:17] <orugo> really good!
[11:19] <orugo> hey i will ask a stupid question
[11:19] <orugo> whats my root password?????????????'
[11:19] <orugo> ahahah
[11:19] <nalioth> orugo: make it REALLY stupid
[11:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orugo about root
[11:19] <orugo> hahaah
[11:19] <orugo> hey
[11:20] <orugo> who made ubotu?
[11:20] <orugo> its REALLY good
[11:21] <slow-motion> n8
[11:21] <nalioth> orugo: ubotu is a blootbot
[11:23] <orugo> i know that its a bot but what is a BLOOTbot?
[11:24] <nalioth> orugo: open a terminal and type "apt-cache show blootbot"
[11:24] <orugo> i dont have the package :(
[11:25] <orugo> (ubotu solved my problem!!!!!!!!!)
[11:25] <orugo> haha
[11:25] <orugo> it rulez
[11:31] <TokenBad> #  2005-10-02: 55 CDs (sent to shipping company)
[11:31] <TokenBad> YES!!
[11:36] <orugo> hey
[11:36] <orugo> theres something like XKILL in kubuntu?
[11:36] <orugo> killing applications
[11:38] <neema> hey everyone, im new to kubuntu.... just messin around with it on my ibook
[11:38] <Blissex> orugo: you can use 'top' or 'htop' to see apps and kill them
[11:39] <neema> wanted to know if there is any other desktop environments i should check out?
[11:39] <neema> is fluxbox any good?
[11:40] <Blissex> neema: it is not an environment, it is a (minimalistic) window manager.
[11:40] <Blissex> neema: it is pretty good, also look at OpenBox for nice window managers.
[11:41] <Blissex> neema: The other ''major'' desktop environment is XFCE, and there is a new Ubuntu subprojects, Xubuntu, to deliver an XFCE based Ubuntu.
[11:45] <neema> alright cool thanks
[11:45] <neema> im moving over from OS X
[11:45] <neema> so i know a little about the *nixes
[11:45] <neema> but not too much
[11:45] <orugo> hey blissex
[11:45] <nalioth> neema: keep in mind that a lot of *nix usability is taken away by NetInfo in OSX
[11:45] <orugo> sorry what did you say about top or htop?
[11:45] <neema> really?
[11:46] <neema> nalioth: explain pls :)
[11:46] <orugo> i mean in MANDRAKE theres an applet (i dont know if its an apllet) who can kill your apps
[11:46] <orugo> like closing procces in winxp or something
[11:46] <nalioth> neema: several *nix commands and functions are the responsibility of the NetInfo system in OSX
[11:47] <nalioth> orugo: it's called "xkill" and it is here, too
[11:47] <orugo> i like blackbox too
[11:47] <orugo> right
[11:47] <orugo> is here?
[11:47] <orugo> in the package manager i couldnt find it
[11:47] <Blissex> neema: there is a nice site that lists all the desktop environments and window managers, http://WWW.XWinMan.org/ (IIRC)
[11:48] <orugo> alguien halba espaol?
[11:48] <Blissex> neema: but KDE is pretty good as a default.
[11:48] <neema> cool thx
[11:48] <nalioth> !es
[11:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:48] <neema> yea, i was gonna ask... did i make a good choice pickin ubuntu/kubuntu as my first distro?
[11:49] <Blissex> orugo: there are many ''kill process'' apps, the simplest are 'top' or 'htop' in a console.
[11:49] <nalioth> neema: you ask in #kubuntu? what answer would you like?
[11:49] <Blissex> neema: yes, it is very much oriented to people like you.
[11:49] <orugo> yes but i want xkill if i can cause its really simple and fast
[11:49] <Blissex> nalioth: it could be that instead Kubuntu were a server oriented distro, or an embedded distro.
[11:50] <Blissex> orugo: there is a process killer that is a modified version of Doom: processes are repesented by monsters that walk around, and you kill a process by shooting it.
[11:50] <orugo> neema: kubuntu is the best for "GRAPHIC" users (like me for example)
[11:50] <nalioth> orugo: alt-f2, and type xkill in the box
[11:50] <neema> is anyone running PPC?
[11:50] <orugo> blissex: GOOD!!! ahaha
[11:50] <Blissex> orugo: wait a second for a link... They have screenshots.
[11:50] <orugo> nalioth: IT WORKS! tks a lot
[11:51] <orugo> blissex: good, tks!!
[11:51] <nalioth> neema: yes we are
[11:51] <neema> would ppl recommend installing xfce on kubuntu?
[11:51] <neema> is it worth checkin out?
[11:52] <orugo> neema: im a newbie... but i didnt like xfce
[11:52] <Blissex> neema: nahhh, unless your PC is quite small.
[11:52] <jrattner1> whats the difference between installing KDE from synaptic or kubuntu
[11:52] <orugo> kubuntu haven't gnome by default.. haha
[11:52] <orugo> maybe using kubuntu is more "natural" that using ubuntu with kde. i dont know
[11:53] <neema> Blissex: PPC here :), running my G4 iBook
[11:53] <coruja> neema: do you know that you can install several window managers at the same time to have them at your disposal? so install some and simply take a look :)
[11:53] <orugo> hey what about CDE?
[11:53] <Blissex> orugo: http://slashdot.org/articles/99/10/20/1110242.shtml
[11:54] <orugo> blissex: tks a lot!!!!!
[11:54] <neema> coruja: oh sweet
[11:54] <neema> alright - how do i install xfce
[11:55] <orugo> xfce is not good for me..
[11:55] <Blissex> neema: there is a single package that installs everything...
[11:55] <orugo> maybe you should try something like blackbox
[11:55] <Blissex> neema: try 'apt-cache search xfce' for a list of likely names :-)
[11:56] <orugo> hey
[11:56] <orugo> tuxracer needs a fast video card right?
[11:56] <orugo> haha
[11:56] <Blissex> neema: for a small PC with KDE, I have started writing some suggestions here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxKDE.html towards the end
[11:56] <orugo> it sucks on my 32mb onboard
[11:56] <Blissex> orugo: it needs 3D acceleration, not a particularly fast card. But 3D acceleration is often a pain to setup.
[11:57] <orugo> haha
[11:57] <orugo> well
[11:57] <orugo> i cant play it :(
[11:57] <orugo> neema: enlightment rulez
[11:57] <orugo> too
[11:57] <orugo> really fast ton slows pc
[11:59] <neema> whoa enlightment looks crazy, a little too crazy for me thoguh
[11:59] <neema> lol
[11:59] <orugo> ahhaa
[11:59] <[LethAL] > I don't like the unfinished graphics of it...
[11:59] <orugo> enlightment is for artists maybe ahah
[11:59] <[LethAL] > How do I make a program/script run on lgoin?
[11:59] <[LethAL] > login*
[12:00] <orugo> oh
[12:00] <orugo> i dont know and i wanted to do that before
[12:00] <orugo> haha
[12:00] <orugo> :(
[12:00] <orugo> (im a newbie)
[12:00] <[LethAL] > lol
[12:00] <logikal> how do i change packet size when im pinging?
[12:00] <[LethAL] > I'm moving from Gnome
[12:00] <orugo> (and i speak a very poor enlglish)
[12:01] <[LethAL] > -s packetsize
[12:01] <neema> alright well thanks for the help and info everyone
[12:01] <neema> ill be back later on
[12:01] <neema> peace
[12:01] <logikal> thx
[12:02] <[LethAL] > np :)


[03:10] <al4nc4ds> very nice studio 12.04
[03:10] <al4nc4ds> thanks for all!
[06:16] <Halexander9000> Greetings from Eastern Europe, gentlehumans! I have 495 png files. I use this command to combine them into a video file at 16 frames per second: "ffmpeg -i 'frame%d.png' -r 16 out.mkv". But instead of getting a video file 495:16=30.9375 seconds in length, I somehow end up with a 19 second one. Could someone please tell me what seems to be the problem?
[06:16] <holstein> mabye your code
[06:17] <holstein> i would try it again, and then maybe try a few different output file types
[06:17] <holstein> mabye try a different settings or 2
[06:25] <Halexander9000> Thank you for your concern, but I realize that I mixed up some commands.
[06:25] <holstein> Halexander9000: cool :)
[06:25] <Halexander9000> Apparently Coca-Cola is not a good coffee substitute at 8:25 am.
[06:26] <holstein> nah... you need the goods!
[06:26] <Halexander9000> The goods?
[06:26] <CFHowlett> *jolt cola!*
[06:26] <Halexander9000> Oh, hey you.
[06:27] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   glad you know where the REAL ubuntu action is!
[06:27] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Tried the ffmpeg room too. Seems to be dead so far.
[06:28] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   yeah, I've noticed that.  So, you're making a gif or a video?    You have openshot too?
[06:31] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: If I do make something worth your time, I'll let you know.
[06:31] <Halexander9000> I need Youtube viewers anyhow :D
[06:31] <CFHowlett> fair enough.  here's my latest still to video conversion  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_vTyR9jEs&list=PLCD6C3483E4436CD3&index=1&feature=plcp
[06:31] <Halexander9000> Openshot is kind of glitchy with .ogv files.
[06:32] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: What does CFHowlett stand for?
[06:32] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I haven't done .ogv yet.  I found openshot much easier that cinelerra
[06:36] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'm afraid of video editors now since I have a 2008 netbook as my main and only machine. A unmodified factory ASUS EEE PC 904HD.
[06:36] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   well you should be quite happy to run ubuntustudio as it's now based on xfce - lighter load and all that
[06:37] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: So, did you got hired?
[06:39] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   Travel authorization documents have just entered american airspace and I expect to be in China by end of month.
[06:40] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Erm... do you intend to become a Chinese citizen?
[06:40] <CFHowlett> Don't intend to ... not that they'd make it easy.  I plan to see as many countries as I can.  Just going there to work is all.
[06:41] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I have this weird feeling that China is going to declare war all of Earth's nations and especially America. Don't ask why. Emotions are supposed to be illogical.
[06:42] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   Personally, I'm more scared of North Korea ...
[06:42] <Halexander9000> Psh... North Korea has nothing on China.
[06:43] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I kind of trust china to act with SOME kind of sense.  NK, not so much ...
[06:45] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: China has tech to knockdown all satellites from the sky, bringing down world wide communications and has it's own independent network of satellites for global positioning.
[06:45] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   could be.  but enough ruminating ... there's buntu's to play with!
[06:46] <Halexander9000> True, true. And I still have half a two litter of Cola to consume XD
[06:46] <CFHowlett> more caffeine in mountain dew ...
[06:48] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I too want to visit Japan one day... and learn Japanese. I never ever traveled over my own country's border.
[06:48] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   I'm an old fart and I waited TOO long to do so.  Get passport, get tickets and get out of town, young man!
[06:50] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: My birthday is only composed of 1 and 9 digits only. Guess my birthdate, and you'll know just how young I am. Hint: Month is a double digit.
[06:51] <Halexander9000> Congrats for your being a father!
[06:52] <Halexander9000> I was about to say "your son" but I don't know enough. So I have to correct that: "you being a father*"
[06:54] <CFHowlett> :)
[06:55] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: This is strange... "ffmpeg -f image2 -i frame%d.png -r 16 out.mkv" does that same weird behavior.
[06:55] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   try a different container - mpeg or mp4
[06:56] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'll see if I can...
[07:01] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Nope, same darn thing. "ffmpeg -f image2 -i frame%d.png -r 16 out.mp4" still outputs 19 seconds.
[07:03] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   play with the settings - 24 for example.
[07:04] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: But... I recorded the thing at 16 fps... that will shorten the video to... um... 19 seconds... Wait a minute...
[07:04] <Halexander9000> Are you saying that ffmpeg forces the video to have at least 24 fps even though I tell it not to?
[07:05] <CFHowlett> 16 fps is an odd settings - most videos default to 24
[07:05] <Halexander9000> Well, I am an odd person with an odd computer.
[07:05] <CFHowlett> oooooookay
[07:05] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: So I can't force it to 16 fps?
[07:06] <CFHowlett> you did the right command to force sfaik but research how to force it.  I suspect the answer is simple but conveniently obscure ...
[07:07] <Halexander9000> If it's obscure, I'm sure the word convenient is not the one you're looking for.
[07:07] <CFHowlett> *simple* but obscure
[07:11] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: North Korea. Racist nation?
[07:12] <CFHowlett> Halexander9000   never been ... can't say from experience.
[07:13] <Halexander9000> Got past the first episode of your podcast.
[07:14] <CFHowlett> ah!  thank you for listening!
[07:20] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: Now I have to relisten and search for the content you referenced so I can download and read.
[07:20] <Halexander9000> I'll subscribe instead. I'm trying to solve my problem right now.
[07:20] <CFHowlett> fair enough.  fyi, links are on the blog ...
[07:23] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: I'll make sure to check that later. In the mean time some guy suggested I should check this out "did you telling ffmpeg what the framerate of the input was ?""ie. put the -r 16 before the -i FILE""then try what I suggested"
[07:24] <Halexander9000> Neither this "ffmpeg -f image2 -i -r 16 frame%d.png -r 24 out.mp4" or this ""ffmpeg -f image2 -r 16 -i frame%d.png -r 24 out.mp4" is a working command. I always get a "command not found".
[07:24] <CFHowlett> try it!
[07:24] <Halexander9000> I already did. I don't complain about thing I didn't try.
[07:25] <CFHowlett> I'm afraid you've got a spot of research ahead ... http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html
[07:25] <CFHowlett> wait 1 ....
[07:27] <CFHowlett> bit rate/frame rate/ all kinds of rates.  I don't pretend to understand it all...but see this.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/877141/
[07:27] <Halexander9000> Well... except for drugging. I was forced to try a puff of cigar as a dare at my 18th birthday party with my parents. And I have tried drinking occasionally, but I always end up drunk after two or three cups of the thing. So I can complain about those two. I don't intend to try drugs anytime. If ever.
[07:29] <CFHowlett> ok.  Hey, starbucks is about to kick me off their couch and out of their house.  Don't forget to see the forums: ubuntu studio, ubuntu multimedia.   I typed the commands with quotes...
[07:30]  * Halexander9000 face-palms himself.
[07:30] <Halexander9000> CFHowlett: See ya. Take care.
[09:18] <Halexander9000> ?
[17:11] <superdave321> I "upgraded" to ubuntu studio from vanilla using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu How can I get the UI back while keeping the apps and plugins?
[17:13] <holstein> superdave321: gnome2 is gone
[17:13] <holstein> XFCE is what we went to because its arguably the most gnome2 like
[17:14] <superdave321> ok, so how do I get it back? or can I even get it back?
[17:14] <holstein> superdave321: gnome2 is gone
[17:14] <holstein> ubuntu/cononnical is doing what it always did
[17:15] <holstein> provide you/us with the latest version of gnome
[17:15] <holstein> which is *not* gnome2
[17:15] <holstein> if you want gnome2, you can run an earlier version of ubuntu
[17:15] <Sysi> one doesn't bring things back from dead
[17:15] <holstein> you can look into the cinamon, or mate projects
[17:15] <holstein> you can build your own version with gnome2
[17:16] <holstein> you can try XFCE, we didnt just throw a dart at a dart board or filp a coin
[17:16] <holstein> you can use *any* of the DE's with the ubuntustudio specific pacakges, inculding KDE
[17:16] <holstein> i suggest, trying to take some time to explore them live, and see what you like
[17:17] <holstein> gnome2 is just going to get further and further obsolete as it gets closer to EOL
[17:17] <holstein> personally, im running 10.04, and have been, and i dont plan on moving on til 12.04, where i will use XFCE
[17:18] <holstein> gotta run... good luck superdave321 :)
[17:19] <tehowe> Cinnamon is pretty good actually, I thought for a while I'd have a hard time deciding twixt it and Unity... but why? I can use either whenever I feel like it just by logging out & back in :) Choice!
[17:19] <Sysi> gnome-shell could be my favourite, if it wasn't dependant about pulseaudio
[17:20] <Sysi> well, not completely dependant, I could still try
[17:20] <tehowe> Which makes me wonder if I can use Cinnamon with Ubustudio 12.04 the same way.. never tried Lubuntu or whatever we're moving to


[12:53] <Maisondouf> Hi, Lucid alpha run fine on EeePC 701.....
[13:24] <Maisondouf> but a lot of diplay bugs are due to the LCD height (480px)
[13:24] <Maisondouf> I would try to connect an external CRT