[00:00] <naelr> I have a toshiba with atheros and it works outta the box.. this one doesn't
[00:00] <tekteen> WaltzingAlong: I need the install cd to download and use it
[00:00] <naelr> but your getting me away from my problem
[00:00] <tekteen> WaltzingAlong:I have to install on a massive amount of computers
[00:01] <Hizzle> whats the best irc program for linux right now in windows I use mirc?
[00:01] <naelr> I have 3 kernels on this laptop
[00:01] <tekteen> I need a way to automate everything
[00:01] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  i use Xchat under windows and linux.
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> !backup
[00:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[00:01] <tekteen> and ran out of room on the cd :-)
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> !cloning | tekteen
[00:01] <ubotu> tekteen: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[00:01] <tekteen> thanks
[00:02] <tekteen> I will look into it
[00:03] <naelr> version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working
[00:03] <Hizzle> Dr_willis: which linux do you use?
[00:03] <coreymon77> naelr: give me a sec
[00:03] <naelr> might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper
[00:03] <naelr> coreymon77: i have been working with this thing for about 2 weeks now... ndiswrapper is only way to get this card working ..
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  using Kubuntu 7.10 at the moment
[00:03] <WaltzingAlong> !ndiswrapper | naelr, could grab the latest
[00:03] <ubotu> naelr, could grab the latest: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:04] <Hizzle> Oh ok thats what I am about to install onto my laptop
[00:04] <coreymon> naelr: take a look at this
[00:04] <coreymon> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dtvgpkz_46fv8dwf
[00:04] <naelr> here is the kernel I am running
[00:04] <naelr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers
[00:05] <naelr> reading corymon
[00:05] <naelr> corymon I have it working...
[00:05] <coreymon77> huh?
[00:05] <naelr> you got me away from my question arguing about ndiswrapper and atheros
[00:06] <naelr> version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working
[00:06] <coreymon77> oh
[00:06] <naelr> my 3 kernels
[00:06] <coreymon77> no clue then
[00:06] <naelr> might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers kernel
[00:07] <coreymon77> oh
[00:07] <coreymon77> dunno then
[00:07] <WaltzingAlong> naelr: building ndiswrapper is not all that difficult
[00:08] <naelr> WaltzingAlong: I don't wanna rebuild it if it isn't even going to work...
[00:08] <smooker> does ubuntu 7.10 have integrated wine ?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> make uninstall; make; make install, about it
[00:08] <smooker> or some other emu >
[00:08] <smooker> ?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: no
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> though you can install it of course
[00:09] <naelr> it was installed as a deb package... ...
[00:09] <smooker> does the popular games run fine ? :P
[00:09] <naelr> here is an oder version of my card... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/AR5006EG?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[00:09] <naelr> *older
[00:09] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: WoW? sure
[00:10] <smooker> yeah :)
[00:17] <smooker> can i view NTFS file systems with Kubuntu ?
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: yes and write too
[00:19] <mehrez> hi
[00:20] <WaltzingAlong> mehrez: greetings
[00:20] <Doctor_Nick> how do i check what packages I installed last?
[00:20] <coreymon77> yallo
[00:20] <mehrez> i want to kow if there's a solution to ugrade from kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7 with the instalation CD of Kubuntu 7
[00:21] <coreymon77> you dont need the cd
[00:22] <WaltzingAlong> mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy
[00:23] <smooker> what was the cool program for Kubuntu with the cool visual efects ?
[00:24] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | smooker
[00:24] <ubotu> smooker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:24] <smooker> 10x
[00:26] <Doctor_Nick> how do i check what packages I installed last?
[00:26] <WaltzingAlong> Doctor_Nick: memory. or when that fails, the list you made of which packages you installed and when.
[00:27] <WaltzingAlong> otherwise, i do not know of a way
[00:27] <gabriel_> how do i do a release / renew of my ip adress?
[00:27] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: If you used command line to install them, then open a terminal and do: history | grep install
[00:28] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: dhclient ethx
[00:28] <Doctor_Nick> but I dont know what dependencies it might have installed
[00:29] <gabriel_> not just a renew, i need release as well i think, so i really get a different IP address
[00:29] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: Did you use apt-get or aptitude ?
[00:29] <Doctor_Nick> apt-get
[00:30] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: You might have a look in /var/log/apt
[00:30] <Doctor_Nick> thanks
[00:30] <ardchoille> yw
[00:30] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: even so, the dhcp server likely gives the same as the lease has not yet expired
[00:31] <smooker> after i install compiz
[00:31] <smooker> how i can get to the configuration ?
[00:32] <smooker> and where is it located ?
[00:32] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: kmenu/settings/advanced desktop effects settings
[00:32] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[00:32] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
 mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy
[00:32] <mehrez> i can't understund well!
[00:33] <ardchoille> mehrez: are you wanting to upgrade?
[00:35] <firec> How do I find out which release of *buntu a machine is running from the CLI?
[00:36] <ardchoille> firec: lsb_release -a
[00:36] <ardchoille> firec: or: lsb_release -a | grep Release
[00:36] <firec> Thanks
[00:36] <ardchoille> yw
[00:37] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong:  it gives me a different one in windows when i do release renew, usually.
[00:38] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: that's why i want those two operations in linux...
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: ifconfig ethx down; ifconfig ethx up
[00:39] <smooker> omg compiz just rox
[00:39] <smooker> :D
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: or sudo dhcpcd -k
[00:41] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: are you SURE that those two correspond to release / renew in windows?
[00:42] <WaltzingAlong> to release the address the command should return the the dhcp release to the dhcp server which bringing down and up the device will not do
[00:42] <gabriel_> for instance, ifconfig down, doesn't that only affect my machines status, and not the dhcp server? and same thing with up?
[00:42] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: well then. then ifconfig cannot do what i ask...
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> mostly you should search the manuals
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> and a quick search of the web thanks to google
[00:43] <trillis> I got pidgin!
[00:43] <tyfon> sudo ifdown ethX and sudo ifup ethX
[00:43] <gabriel_> yeah i'm searching as well
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> then you would come across the dhclient command which will issue the dhcp release when passed the -r
[00:43] <coreymon77> trillis: yay
[00:43] <trillis> I kinda did.
[00:43] <trillis> It's an rpm file..
[00:44] <coreymon77> ...
[00:44] <coreymon77> why not just go to www.getdeb.net
[00:44] <coreymon77> trillis: and get it as a deb
[00:44]  * trillis feels stuped
[00:44] <crimsun> ...because getdeb.net is /not/ a vetted repo.
[00:45] <coreymon77> okay then
[00:45] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: thanks
[00:45] <coreymon77> is it on apt for feisty
[00:45] <crimsun> it is a third-party repo, but to recommend it without at least appending a significant caveat is foolish.
[00:45] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: cheers
[00:45] <trillis> How do I find it on that site?
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: i meant go to the site and get the one file
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: not add it as a repo
[00:46] <trillis> I tried the search funtion and got: Distro id not found
[00:46] <crimsun> coreymon77: makes no difference.
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: its on the main page
[00:46] <coreymon77> trillis: that was meant for you
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: well then what do you suggest
[00:46] <coreymon77> alien?
[00:47] <crimsun> ...no.
[00:47] <crimsun> work on updating the current source package accordingly.
[00:47] <coreymon77> meh?
[00:48] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: "There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519120" it says...
[00:49] <coreymon77> crimsun: how do you suggest getting it for feisty?
[00:49] <WaltzingAlong> man dhclient           | gabriel_
[00:50] <crimsun> coreymon77: what I said above, and then requesting a backport to feisty once 2.3.0 is vetted into hardy.
[00:50] <gabriel_> yeah already on it :)
[00:50] <trillis> I don't see it on the main page...
[00:51] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: there is already the pid is not an error
[00:51] <coreymon77> crimsun: i doont get what you meant by above
[00:52] <Tarin> how do enable nvidia drivers?
[00:52] <Tarin> and install
[00:52] <crimsun> coreymon77: "update the hardy source package to 2.3.0 - by merging and updating the Ubuntuised source package - and once that source package is accepted into hardy, request a backport to feisty"
[00:52] <coreymon77> and how do i do that?
[00:53] <ardchoille> !nvidia | Tarin
[00:53] <ubotu> Tarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:53] <coreymon77> crimsun: and what does trillis do in the mean time
[00:54] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: but how come  i didn't loose my internet connection then?
[00:54] <crimsun> coreymon77: whatever s/he wants
[00:54] <coreymon77> crimsun: as in, not get pidgin?
[00:54] <crimsun> coreymon77: I am recommending the vetted protocol as someone who has upload privileges.
[00:54] <dwsdad> hello
[00:54] <trillis> I can't find it...
[00:54] <trillis> :(
[00:55] <khatahn> hi, anyone happen to know if there is an ubuntu package of the latest Flash 9 release somewhere?
[00:55] <FireCrotch> Hi, dwsdad
[00:55] <dwsdad> Hi, Fire
[00:55] <WaltzingAlong> !flash | khatahn
[00:55] <ubotu> khatahn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:55] <coreymon77> crimsun: englishplease
[00:55] <dwsdad> anyone have time for a smb4k question(s)?
[00:55] <crimsun> khatahn: we ship 9.0.48 in multiverse.
[00:55] <khatahn> WaltzingAlong: it's not the latest
[00:55] <trillis> Google found it for me <3...
[00:55] <crimsun> (or rather, we ship a script that grabs 9.0.48)
[00:56] <khatahn> crimsun: yeah, it's just that i'm looking for the new fullscreen feature which is not supported on that version
[00:56] <crimsun> coreymon77: I have a responsibility to recommend "proper" procedure for getting newer versions of software.
[00:56] <crimsun> khatahn: there is no newer stable version.
[00:56] <FireCrotch> coreymon77: what crimsun is saying is that rather than using a .deb found on some third party site, an official version should be used
[00:56] <coreymon77> crimsun: im not talking about newer versions, im talking about getting it period
[00:57] <crimsun> coreymon77: getting it /period/ is moot; Ubuntu ships it in the main component.
[00:57] <coreymon77> crimsun: apparently t\cant find it on apt
[00:57] <FireCrotch> coreymon77: in fiesty it's called gaim
[00:58] <Marfi> whenever i close amarok, it unmounts the drive that its playing music from. how do i stop it from doing this?
[00:58] <khatahn> crimsun: but there's a release candidate. i was just wondering if someone knows an unofficial ubuntu package somewhere
[00:58] <coreymon77> trillis: you hear that? for feisty its gaim not pidgin
[00:58] <crimsun> khatahn: I don't know of one, but that certainly does not preclude its existence.
[00:58] <ardchoille> I thought trillis was on Futsy
[00:59] <ardchoille> *Gutsy
[00:59] <crimsun> khatahn: and I certainly don't recommend its usage, since it's broken IME.
[00:59] <coreymon77> trillis: im confused, which one are you on
[00:59] <ardchoille> trillis: Open a terminal and do: lsb_release -a
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Marfi: #amarok..
[01:00] <khatahn> crimsun: i didn't really like it either when i installed it manually, just thought i'd give it another go
[01:00] <trillis> Sorry, brb.
[01:01] <Marfi> ty
[01:01] <Marfi> figured go here, since amarok is a KDE app. ;)
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> figured come to #kubuntu because #amarok is a #kde app?
[01:03] <WaltzingAlong> Marfi: amarok, devices on the left side bar, configure, then the command for unmounting? or not
[01:11] <trillis> Well, I have the Pidgin deb file... For some reason it opened its self in Kate, and now I can't save it... Something about how saving it in Binary form will leave it currupted.
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: dont use the deb
[01:12] <trillis> ...
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: are you on feisty or gutsy
[01:12] <trillis> You just said to use tit...
[01:12] <trillis> Kubuntu...
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: feisty or gutsy
[01:13] <trillis> Er, I think its gutsy...
[01:13] <FireCrotch> trillis: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[01:14] <FireCrotch> trillis: that will tell you for sure
[01:14] <coreymon> which one is it?
[01:15] <trillis> ubuntu
[01:15] <trillis> Dapper?
[01:15] <FireCrotch> trillis:  it says "Codename: Dapper" ?
[01:16] <jobbe> you guys wouldn't know a repository that offers x.org 7.3 by any chance?
[01:16] <trillis> Yes.
[01:16] <coreymon> wow, youre not even on edgy
[01:16] <ardchoille> trillis: That's quite an old release, tho it's still supported.
[01:16] <ardchoille> !info gaim Dapper
[01:16] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[01:17] <trillis> I want Pidgin though...
[01:17] <ardchoille> trillis: If you're planning to stick with Dapper and want to try pidgin, open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install gaim
[01:18] <ardchoille> trillis: gaim changed names to pidgin
[01:18] <coreymon> trillis: pidgin is gaim and gaim is pidgin
[01:18] <trillis> Yaay, it's working.
[01:18] <coreymon> trillis: they just changed their  name to pidgin because of legal issue
[01:18] <coreymon> s
[01:18] <ardchoille> trillis: You threw us when you said you were on Gutsy
[01:18] <trillis> Aah, sorry.
[01:18]  * trillis is a nub
[01:18] <ardchoille> np
[01:19] <ardchoille> I remember Dapper being quite a solid release
[01:19] <Radi01> pidgin/gaim is cool.
[01:21] <trillis> Thanksa
[01:21] <trillis> THanks*
[01:22] <ardchoille> trillis: Enjoy
[01:24] <ardchoille> dthacker: What is the name that was decided on for the kubuntu news?
[01:24] <ardchoille> s/name/page/
[01:25] <Selanit> I'm having a weird problem with Firefox.  Sometimes, but not reliably, I'll click a link, and the page will /appear/ to load but not really.  That is, the URL in the address bar changes to the new address, the loading throbber runs for a while and then finishes, I get status updates - but the viewport still shows the previous page.
[01:26] <Selanit> I can make it display the page properly by resizing the window, but it's a serious pain in the butt.
[01:26] <Selanit> Anybody else have this problem?
[01:26] <neur1> is that the new firefox? (updated) because mine does that too
[01:27] <ardchoille> Selanit: Never seen that problem. I have ff installed, do you have a url for that?
[01:28] <Selanit> ardchoille: No, I don't have an URL.  It's not limited to any one site.  I've seen it happen with Google searches, my own web sites, my school web site, randomly.  There's no apparent pattern.
[01:28] <neur1> sometimes it load a blank page and says it's done
[01:28] <Selanit> Mine's been doing it for at least three months
[01:29] <Radi01> did you clear your cache and error control?
[01:29] <Selanit> I've tried hard refreshes (CTRL + SHIFT + R ignores cache).  What do you mean by error control, tho?
[01:29] <Radi01> undet tools
[01:29] <Radi01> r
[01:29] <Selanit> Eh?
[01:30] <Radi01> under tools
[01:30] <Selanit> Oh, the error CONSOLE, not the error control
[01:30] <Radi01> ya
[01:30] <Selanit> I hadn't thought to check there, but I'm not seeing anything
[01:31] <smooker> anyone know some other cool program like compiz ?
[01:32] <Selanit> I knew I should have made a screenshot.  It's not doing it at the moment.  I wish I could figure out some way of reliably reproducing the problem.
[01:38] <somekool> YO
[01:39] <somekool> is there a way to rerun the keyboard selection application from the install once kubuntu is installed?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> its proberly setting the default in ...(let me check)
[01:39] <smooker> how i termina application ?
[01:39] <smooker> terminate *
[01:40] <Dr_willis>  /etc/console-setup/config -  has some keyboard settings in there.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> smooker,  depends.  use xkill in a terminal, then click on the app you want to kill - is one way
[01:43] <smooker> haha its cool 10x :D
[01:43] <smooker> quite easy :D
[01:46] <Radi01> Ubuntu has an icon for that , dont know about kubuntu.
[01:47] <draik> I got an icon theme from kde-look.org. The icon images are 128x128. Even with the spcified 22, they have the spaces for 128x128
[01:48] <smooker> btw Kubuntu is on 4GB dvd how Ubuntu is only on 1 CD ?
[01:48] <smooker> :O
[01:48] <Dr_willis> smooker,  look closer.. they both have cd and dvd versions
[01:49] <Dr_willis> and a live cd, and a alternative cd. version
[01:49] <smooker> is there way to download 5/4 cd's not dvd ?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> theres no need to download several cd's you wont gain much by using the dvd either.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> the dvd may have some extra packages.. but i think mainly its a live cd + the alternative installercd.
[01:50] <draik> Dr_willis: Sounds about right
[01:50] <Dr_willis> i dont think the dvd Installs any of the extra packages.
[01:51] <Dr_willis> and of course - it proberly wont have the updates.
[01:51] <ubuntu_is_awesom> the mouse cursor in 7.10 amd64 is invisble... on nvidia 5200, any help?
[01:53] <draik> For everyone here with DSL... What is the purpose to the filters the ISP gives you?
[01:53] <draik> They don't seem to make a difference
[01:53] <draik> Either way, connection drops when a phone call enters
[01:53] <Dr_willis> are you using the nvidia driver at this time? or the nv driver?
[01:54] <ubuntu_is_awesom> who is?
[01:54] <ubuntu_is_awesom> bah, ubuntu is shit
[01:54] <Radi01> Then you may have the filters in the wrong place?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> and its 'short attention span theater' today on #kubuntu
[01:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:55] <Radi01> That looked like a setup.
[01:55] <zibrah3ed> draik : Filters are there to "filter" any high pitch noise that the modem might make during phone calls
[01:56] <Radi01> If its a barrel filter make sure its not backwards.
[01:56] <draik_> Stupid DSL connection just gave me 200 s lag.
[01:56] <draik_> So what is the purpose of a DSL filter if it doesn't make a change?
[01:57] <draik_> DSL connection dies when a call enters.
[01:57] <draik_> :(
[01:57] <Radi01> Go back and look and see if they are installed right.
[01:57] <Radi01> and not backwards
[01:57] <Dr_willis> or sideways
[01:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:57] <Radi01> lol
[01:59] <zibrah3ed> Draik_: OPr installed on your modems line
[01:59] <draik_> We aren't using any at this time.
[02:00] <draik_> We took them off
[02:00] <Radi01> There is one that uses both phone and modem on same line.
[02:00] <draik_> DSL won't even give me 100KB/s downloads
[02:00] <draik_> I miss my $CABLE_ISP and the 300KB/s connections
[02:00] <Radi01> Somthing is draging the line/somewhere
[02:00] <Radi01> Who is the provider
[02:01] <draik_> Verizon
[02:01] <draik_> America's #1 blah blah blah
[02:01] <Radi01> lol
[02:01] <draik_> America's #1 piss off!
[02:01] <draik_> This makes me want to have High-Speed Dial-Up
[02:02] <Hizzle> I was wondering I am about to install kubuntu on laptop and replace vista, now for all the hardware like vid card, webcam, etc do I gotta individually get drivers for each one so they work with linux or how does that work?
[02:02] <draik_> Hizzle: You should be ready to go with the install
[02:02] <draik_> What is your video card?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  rarely. The video card and network cards (wireless) are progerly the only things you may need todownload stuff for to get full ussage
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Linux blows windows away in this area. :)
[02:03] <Radi01> Just rte-check everything/im sure youll find somthing/plus/you might mant to reset your modem from the (back).
[02:03] <draik_> Radi01: I've done that so many times. I've given that crappy modem/router amnesia by now
[02:03] <Radi01> hahaha
[02:03] <Radi01> what about old wire?
[02:04] <draik_> That's probably the cause. It forgot what it is and what to do.
[02:04] <Hizzle> alright I just want everything to work fine I am in the military and I am gone alot and the laptop is my way of chattin with my wife
[02:05] <draik_> Hizzle: You should be ready to go from the start. I don't believe you will have any issues with the install and usage.
[02:05] <Radi01> Hizzle: you will be glad you did.
[02:05] <Hizzle> alright thanks
[02:05] <Hizzle> thats what I keep hearing
[02:06] <Radi01> I sent bill gates packing 1 yr ago.
[02:06] <draik_> To top it off, Verizon told my mom that DSL was going to be faster than the cable internet we currently had.
[02:06] <zibrah3ed> lol
[02:06] <Hizzle> hehehe thats funny
[02:06] <SpeS> hi
[02:06] <SpeS> I'm trying to connect with a rt2561 pci card, and I can't by now :(
[02:07] <draik_> Radi01: 6/1/6 was the last time I had windows as my main OS
[02:07] <Radi01> 1.5 is ok..its what i have and i have 200 download connect.
[02:07] <SpeS> the module rt61pci is loaded
[02:07] <Minataku> Radi01: 3 years here
[02:07] <SpeS> but I can't configure the card...
[02:07] <SpeS> can't connect :(
[02:07] <Radi01> embarq.
[02:07] <smooker> 3 years ?
[02:08] <smooker> o.o
[02:08] <SpeS> is it possible to use it with the system installed by default?
[02:08] <zibrah3ed> SpeS: Never had luck with the open source drivers have you tried ndiswrapper
[02:08] <Radi01> draik: could be a card at the hub: i had that problem with buffering till i made them change it.
[02:08] <SpeS> no, only trying with the rt61pci it brings
[02:09] <zibrah3ed> !ndiswrapper
[02:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:09] <CadaverPimp> I need to tell people to stop calling my house for the next few years
[02:09] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, I think there are official drivers from ralink
[02:09] <CadaverPimp> I get such a stupid lag when people call
[02:09] <SpeS> apart from free software ones
[02:09] <SpeS> ubotu, ok, thx
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <zibrah3ed> SpeS: I have a similar card and have never got them working, dhcp gives an error
[02:10] <SpeS> errrrr, a bot, ok... ^_^'
[02:10] <Radi01> ubotu smart
[02:10] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[02:10] <Radi01> oops
[02:10] <heinkel_111> !flac
[02:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <G-RegZ> hello all
[02:10] <Minataku> smooker: I stopped using Windows 3 years ago
[02:10] <Minataku> Over, actually
[02:11] <smooker> aww
[02:11] <smooker> u use kubuntu ?
[02:11] <Radi01> I cant stand windows now.
[02:11] <heinkel_111> which is recommended kubuntu program to rip audio cd to flac format now?
[02:11] <heinkel_111> kaudocreator?
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> no will all us PClinuxos
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> we just like to talk
[02:11] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, so you got it right with ndiswrapper?
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Yeah
[02:12] <Radi01> Imagine all the money these software people made giving out garbage.
[02:12] <SpeS> I've never tryed that
[02:12] <zibrah3ed> Spes: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[02:12] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, I've got no inet
[02:12] <SpeS> ...
[02:12] <smooker> wow wait what soft ?
[02:12] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Find windows driver and " sudo ndiswrapper -l  *.inf"
[02:12] <Minataku> smooker: I started with SuSE
[02:12] <smooker> what you use now ?
[02:12] <Minataku> Then transitioned to Gentoo where I've been since
[02:13] <Radi01> How did you like suse
[02:13] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Ndiswrapper is included, but not installed by default on the livecd
[02:13] <Minataku> It was good back then
[02:13] <smooker> and now u use.. ?
[02:13] <SpeS> I'll try it then if I don't advance with this one... thanks
[02:13] <Minataku> smooker: I told you Gentoo
[02:13] <SpeS> ahm good
[02:13] <Radi01> I started with mandrake/got tired of reinstalling 1nce a week.
[02:14] <smooker> aw sry im not good in english :)
[02:14] <Minataku> lol
[02:14] <smooker> dont laught xD
[02:14] <Minataku> I'm laughing because it's not an English issue
[02:14] <Radi01> chuckles then
[02:15] <Minataku> You just missed me saying it
[02:15] <Minataku> Plus, I laugh all the time
[02:15] <Minataku> So don't take it personally :3
[02:15] <smooker> no i didnt missed i just didnt understand it..
[02:15] <smooker> the "since"..
[02:15] <smooker> but now i know what it is :D
[02:16] <Minataku> Ah
[02:16] <Minataku> Sorry then
[02:16] <smooker> so is gentoo good :P for games :) ?
[02:16] <ciperlone> hello
[02:16] <Minataku> Heh
[02:17] <Minataku> It's a fairly "hardcore" distro
[02:17] <Minataku> You do everything yourself
[02:17] <smooker> lol exactly for me xDD
[02:17] <zibrah3ed> smooker: Its more effort than its worth
[02:17] <ciperlone> does anyone here knows the differente between karamba and superkaramba?
[02:17] <Radi01> compileing everything
[02:18] <Minataku> zibrah3ed: WRONG
[02:18] <smooker> my first try on linux was solaris xD (terrible setup) :P
[02:18] <Dr_willis> one has more features... both are sort of lacking. :)
[02:18] <Radi01> Actually, I started on 3.1 in 96. I've come along way baby.
[02:18] <zibrah3ed> Minataku: Right!! you could spend half a day compiling so OO starts .3 seconds faster
[02:19] <Minataku> I also started with Windows 3.1 on MS-DOS 5.00
[02:19] <Minataku> But earlier
[02:19] <Minataku> I started in 1991
[02:19] <Radi01> I liked it..never crashed on me.
[02:19] <Minataku> zibrah3ed: Kindly cease your attempts at trolling otherwise I will report you
[02:19] <Minataku> Also, the default for OO.o is a binary package
[02:19] <Minataku> One of the rare few
[02:21] <Radi01> Back when 1`2mhz was (fast).
[02:21] <Radi01> 12
[02:21] <Radi01> magine that
[02:21] <ardchoille> lol
[02:21] <smooker> is there linux for floppy which can run on laptop with  no hdd ?
[02:22] <ardchoille> smooker: I think you'd evenhave trouble getting the kernel on a floppy
[02:22] <smooker> i tryed win 3.1 but doesnt boot
[02:22] <Minataku> Heh
[02:22] <Minataku> I had a 33MHz 386
[02:23] <smooker> Minataku
[02:23] <zibrah3ed> smooker: List of floppy dists http://users.sunet.com.au/~tsn/floppy_linux.html
[02:23] <ardchoille> smooker: That lappy got a dc-rom drive?
[02:23] <smooker> can u help it is Toshiba sattelite T1850c
[02:23] <ardchoille> *cd
[02:23] <smooker> have only floppy
[02:23] <smooker> i dont know if its 386 or other :(
[02:24] <beefjerky> Is there an official fix to the non-free flash plugin causing firefox to hang issue?  Firefox freezes just about any time I interrupt any Flash content. Running Gutsy with Flash 9
[02:24] <apparle> The CDs shipped have KDE4 ??????????
[02:25] <Radi01> I think they only ship official releases.
[02:26] <zibrah3ed> apparle: No I think just dolphin
[02:26] <word> apparle: kde4 will be released later this month i think o.O
[02:26] <ardchoille> apparle: kde4 is in the repos, not on the cd
[02:27] <smooker> how do i change my password here ?
[02:27] <Minataku> Heh
[02:27] <ardchoille> word: It's been delayed until January
[02:27] <Minataku> I collect old computers
[02:27] <Minataku> As for one-floppy Linux distros... don't bother
[02:27] <Radi01> till jan?
[02:27] <Minataku> Stick DR-DOS 7.03 on it, smooker
[02:27] <ardchoille> smooker: /msg nickserv set password new_pass_here
[02:27] <Minataku> Hm... Satellite T1850C
[02:27] <Minataku> How old is that
[02:27] <Minataku> The oldest Toshiba I have is a T1200
[02:28] <Radi01> Another boat anchor?
[02:28] <Minataku> Intel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz
[02:28] <ardchoille> Door stop
[02:28] <Minataku> Radi01 and archoille: Do not troll other users.
[02:28] <Radi01> wow 9.5 / to druel for.
[02:28] <Minataku> I don't take such comments lightly
[02:28] <ardchoille> Minataku: You do it to others, so I thought you'd be acceptable to that, sorry.
[02:28] <Minataku> Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad, and trying to anger me will cause you to be reported to channel operators
[02:29] <smooker> Minataku can we chat private ?
[02:29] <Radi01> shakes.
[02:29] <bascule> :)
[02:30] <oobe> does anyone know why some streaming sites wont work with mplayer plugin and firefox using 64 bit
[02:31] <Hizzle> Kubuntu is a full OS right I dont need linux already installed do I?
[02:31] <zibrah3ed> correct
[02:31] <ardchoille> Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu has it already
[02:32] <Hizzle> ok I am new to this whole thing, trying to get my feet wet
[02:32] <Radi01> take your time.
[02:32] <beefjerky> oobe: I've had similar problems. VLC works better, imho.  You could try the media player connectivity extension of firefox to use VLC instead
[02:32] <ardchoille> Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu = Linux distribution
[02:32] <Radi01> ya use the (mosilla vlc) plugin.
[02:32] <Radi01> mozilla
[02:34] <beefjerky> but i'm still having problems with FF2 hanging on sites with Flash... no one else has this issue?
[02:34] <zibrah3ed> me too
[02:34] <Radi01> Most dont use 64 bit.
[02:35] <beefjerky> radi01: was that directed to me? if so, i use 32bit
[02:36] <beefjerky> ftr, opera does not seem to be affected by this (but my precious extensions!)
[02:36] <Radi01> no just most that have that use 64..in your case #ubuntu may help..it has allot of traffic and some one there might help
[02:37] <beefjerky> radi01: yea, i've seen a lot of people report this "bug" and a lot of "workarounds" but no one method had everyone on board, and i don't want to go about symlinking and deleting directories
[02:37] <Radi01> dont blame ya.
[02:37] <pierreth> hello, I think there are a package of supplementary applications for kde, what it's name?
[02:37] <ardchoille> !info kubuntu-extras
[02:37] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-extras does not exist in gutsy
[02:38] <ardchoille> Well, that wasn't it
[02:38] <pierreth> is it replace with something else?
[02:38] <Radi01> you mean kd4?
[02:38] <ardchoille> It's there, I just don't remember the package name
[02:38] <beefjerky> pierreth: what do you need that you can't get using Adept or compiling yourself?
[02:39] <pierreth> beefjerky: it don't remember exactly, I was having more kde application with my older version of Kubuntu
[02:39] <ardchoille> pierreth: If you can name a few apps, someone could tell you what you need.
[02:39] <beefjerky> pierreth: have you looked into Add/Remove Programs?  There's tons of stuff you can add
[02:40] <pierreth> beefjerky: yes, too much, this is where I need to find it
[02:40] <alastor> allo
[02:40] <pierreth> a remember using a time tracking application
[02:40] <beefjerky> pierreth: Kalarm?
[02:41] <pierreth> an another application to take notes
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: may be
[02:41] <beefjerky> pierreth: knotes?
[02:41] <ardchoille> !karm
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: should I install separatly?
[02:41] <LjL> !info karm
[02:41] <ubotu> karm: KDE time tracker tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1320 kB
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: I already have knotes
[02:42] <ardchoille> pierreth: kdeutils ?
[02:42] <pierreth> ardchoille: may be, I will look...
[02:43] <ardchoille> pierreth: apt-cache show kdeutils
[02:43] <ardchoille> Have a look at the Depends
[02:43] <pierreth> ardchoille: it was it!! :-)
[02:44] <ardchoille> Thought so :)
[02:44] <beefjerky> ardchoille solves yet another mystery :)
[02:44] <pierreth> I had a problem upgrading
[02:44] <bazhang> haha
[02:44] <pierreth> I took my old user directory from version 7.06
[02:45] <ardchoille> pierreth: 7.06?
[02:45] <pierreth> well the version before 7.10?
[02:45] <ardchoille> 7.04
[02:45] <pierreth> OK :-)
[02:46] <beefjerky> ardchoille: i've seen others mention 7.06 before too... i wonder if there *was* something...
[02:46] <ardchoille> 6.06 was only .06 because it had been delayed some weeks to polish it and make it an LTS
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> Probably thinking of 6.06
[02:46] <pierreth> Everything was OK but my shortcuts to start applications were not working?
[02:46] <beefjerky> makes sense.
[02:46] <holzmodem> hi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)
[02:47] <pierreth> these are not in the user directory?
[02:47] <ardchoille> pierreth: You mean your $HOME dir?
[02:47] <beefjerky> holzmodem: alt+f2 > appearance and themes
[02:47] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes
[02:47] <ardchoille> beefjerky: iirc, font *color* isn't in the settings
[02:47] <pierreth> I running 7.10 with my old 7.04 directory
[02:48] <beefjerky> ardchoille: youre probably right, and i forgot "kcontrol" in there anyway
[02:48] <ardchoille> He'd have to write it into ~/.gtkrc-2 I think
[02:49] <pierreth> is the file format for keyboard shortcuts has change in version 7.10?
[02:49] <ardchoille> pierreth: And which shortcuts are you speaking of? Desktop shortcuts? kmenu items?
[02:49] <beefjerky> ardchoille: even if he uses the KDE style in gtk?
[02:49] <ardchoille> beefjerky: Not sure about that one
[02:49] <holzmodem> beefjerky: i using kde, the fontcolor in kcontrol is set to lightgrey, but the font in gtk apps is still  black
[02:49] <pierreth> ardchoille: my personal keyboard shortcuts that I had in the K menu
[02:50] <pierreth> ardchoille: There were all gone once in 7.10
[02:50] <beefjerky> holzmdoem: have you tried making gtk use KDE styles (it's in kcontrol>appearance and themes)  If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to tweak the settings manually :(
[02:50] <ardchoille> pierreth: Did you copy over the ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename> file too?
[02:51] <ardchoille> pierreth: Also, if you didn't explicitly save those kb shorcuts to a file, they may be gone. I had to tangle with that too.
[02:51] <pierreth> ardchoille: What I did is that I hype out my user directory and I replaced it with the one that I had in 7.04
[02:52] <ardchoille> pierreth: That happened with me and I found the problem was that I didn't save the shortcuts
[02:53] <pierreth> ardchoille: What do you mean, not saved? There are not in the user directory?
[02:53] <ardchoille> pierreth: kde uses them, but to save them to disk yu need to save them to a file. they are saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename>
[02:54] <ardchoille> At least that is what I was told
[02:54] <pierreth> ardchoille: Aren't they saved each I save the K menu with the editor?
[02:55] <pierreth> each time, I mean
[02:55] <ardchoille> pierreth: Nope, kmenu otems and keyboard shortcuts are two different things.. unless you mean your kmenu item shortcuts.
[02:56] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes, I mean kmenu item shortcuts
[02:56] <ardchoille> Those should have been saved in ~/.config/menus/ somewhere
[02:56] <ardchoille> pierreth: You can always open kmenuedit and re-enter them
[02:57] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes, I did that. I just wanted to understand why
[02:57] <apparle> genii: are you there
[02:57] <pierreth> ardchoille: Otherwise, everything was the way I left
[02:58] <pierreth> I did just that when I moved my kde suff from the mac ppc to an intel pc
[02:58] <ardchoille> pierreth: You can save some time/hassle by putting $HOME on its own partiton next time you install. This will keep your user dir just the way you left it
[02:58] <somekool> i installed ubuntu, then installed the kubuntu-desktop and I lost the french-canadian keyboard. I tried every options in kcontrol. is it possible to re-run the tool that kubuntu uses at install time ?
[02:59] <pierreth> ardchoille: what should I use to format and partition the disk?
[03:00] <pierreth> I was very happy to see my desktop the way I left it even if it was a complety different machine
[03:00] <ardchoille> pierreth: That can be done in the kubuntu installer or you can use gparted/qtparted for that, but don't worry about it until you next install
[03:00] <pierreth> this is very nice
[03:01] <ardchoille> somekool: Have you tried the Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout tools in kcontrol?
[03:01] <pierreth> ardchoille: could I use to make an easy install of BSD?
[03:01] <ardchoille> pierreth: I know nothing about BSD, sorry
[03:02] <pierreth> ardchoille: could I partition without formatting?
[03:02] <ardchoille> pierreth: Making a partition without formatting that partition with a file system is useless
[03:02] <ardchoille> You need an fs on the part
[03:03] <pierreth> ardchoille: I mean without formatting the whole disk
[03:03] <rick_> how do I set the clock on right bottom corner to show 12 hour time in AM & PM ?
[03:03] <ardchoille> pierreth: Oh, yes, you can make a new part and format just that part, but be very careful as one mistake can destroy other partitions. I would recommend you learn more about partitioning
[03:04] <pierreth> ardchoille: OK, and how can I learn?
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> rick_- right click -> Date and Time Format
[03:05] <ardchoille> rick_: Right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab and change the Time format
[03:05] <ardchoille> rick_: If it tells you that you need to log out and back in, just restart kicker: dcop kicker default restart
[03:06]  * Dr_willis still thinks 12 hr should be the default...
[03:06] <Dr_willis> and the darn clock should have a simple show 12/24 hr toggle. :)
[03:06] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I agree with the toggle
[03:06] <Dr_willis> I may want 12 hr in the clock.. and 24 hr format in my docs. or somthing :
[03:06] <somekool> many packages missing for ubuntu, its annoying (simdock for example)
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: There is a way to fix that ;)
[03:07] <somekool> ardchoille: yes I tried kcontrol, I cannot find the proper variant for the keyboard I want. but the kubuntu install tool works fine.
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: Learn to package, then submit packages :)
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: Ah, ok
[03:07] <rick_> thanks ardcholle, that did it
[03:07] <ardchoille> rick_: yw
[03:08] <somekool> ardchoille: is there a "making deb packages for dummies" yet?
[03:08] <Evil_> where can I get the C/++ include files? it says I don't have them
[03:08] <ardchoille> somekool: I have a url for a tutorial, hold on..
[03:08] <somekool> ardchoille: do you know if I can rerun the install tool just to find the proper keybaord variant?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> Evil_,  install 'build-essentials' yet? (or was it build-essential
[03:08] <ardchoille> somekool: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[03:08] <Evil_> nope
[03:09] <Evil_> I probably should, eh? lol
[03:09] <ardchoille> somekool: I don't know about that
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Evil_,  yep.. You are overcoming your windows training grasshopper.. you will go far..
[03:09] <ardchoille> build-essential
[03:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:09] <Evil_> lmao
[03:09] <ardchoille> lol
[03:09] <Dr_willis> 'you must throw off the harness and blinders of the gates and the windows'
[03:10] <Dr_willis> 'and achieve the zen of the gpl'
[03:10] <Dr_willis> 'use the foss luke!'
[03:10] <Evil_> lmao
[03:10] <Evil_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? == any way to fix this, I usually just restart my computer
[03:10] <ardchoille> Dr_willis++
[03:10] <ardchoille> Evil_: Close your other package managers and try again
[03:11] <apparle> how to use kdevelop
[03:11] <Evil_> I don't see any open lol
[03:12] <Evil_> guess I just have to restart lol, brb
[03:12] <ardchoille> Evil_: Did you have an adept crash maybe?
[03:14] <rick_> anyone here use Quanta+ ?
[03:14] <apparle> what is new in kde 4
[03:15] <ardchoille> bugs
[03:15]  * ardchoille hides
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> It's funny cause it's true
[03:16] <apparle> and what is new in gutsy over fiesty
[03:16] <ardchoille> Restricted manager was the only thing I noticed
[03:17] <oobe> gutsy has ntfs-3g pre configured
[03:17] <pjeide> I have the nvidia-glx-new drivers installed (100.14.19).  I have two monitors.. 1680x1050 and 1024x768.  By using the XServer Display Configuration option in nvidia-settings I was able to set up both screens appropriately.
[03:17] <oobe> it also has mythbuntu
[03:17] <pjeide> However, when I go to my Monitor & Display settings in KDE my system thinks I have a 2704x1050 desktop.  Is there a way to configure the system so that it recognizes two distinct screens?  There is an option in "SIze, Orientation & Positioning" for second screen, but it doesn't let me check the box for second screen.
[03:17] <pjeide> Is that a problem with my xorg.conf..?
[03:18] <oobe> pjeide, i have the same thing it has never mattered
[03:18] <pjeide> oobe: I want to play games at fullscreen on one montior
[03:18] <ardchoille> pjeide: Did you click the Admin Mode button on the bottom?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  you using nvidia card?
[03:18] <pjeide> but wine and directx only see my screen @ 2704x1050
[03:18] <pjeide> ardchoille: yes
[03:18] <pjeide> Dr_willis: yes
[03:19] <apparle> I have ATI drivers installed and set he screen to 1280x1024. but the logon screen has a diffrent resolution. what to do
[03:19] <oobe> you need to configure it to lauch using xinerame one screem x
[03:19] <oobe> *xinerama
[03:19] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  for my nvidia systems. I had to enable the twinview settings using the nvidia contrll tool. THEN restart the X server for the programs to see it right.
[03:19] <pjeide> I am not currently using xinerama, perhaps that might help
[03:20] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that twinview was used in place of xinerama.
[03:20] <pjeide> Dr_willis: I have it setup for twinview, and I have been using it this way for about a month
[03:20] <oobe> it is
[03:20] <Dr_willis> I can move/max programs on one screen or another. Not sure if i got xinerama enabled or not.
[03:20] <pjeide> Dr_willis: as can I
[03:20] <pjeide> everything works appropriately except what resolution games recognize in WINE
[03:20] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that some programs are just brain dead about how they do  the screen sizes. :( sadly
[03:21] <Dr_willis> ahh so wine is the only catch eh?
[03:21] <ardchoille> Figures
[03:21] <pjeide> mmm well some linux apps as well as you mentioned
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Ive notied issues with java games/programs mainly.
[03:21] <oobe> sounds like a tricky setup both my monitors are identical for that reason
[03:21] <Dr_willis> a few linux apps like.. err..  vmware, (which suprised me) and a few others.
[03:21] <pjeide> yea.. I tried a game called Einstein but it launches splayed out over both screens unintelligably
[03:21] <oobe> i dont play games either
[03:22] <Dr_willis> mame also had issues.
[03:22] <pjeide> oobe: I think that is one primary issue is that I'm using different resolutions
[03:22] <oobe> i spose u have already googled a bit?
[03:22] <pjeide> I am just wondering if I configure my xorg.conf differently if I might get KDE to recognize the dual screen setup
[03:22] <ardchoille> pjeide: That would make my brain explode :P
[03:22] <pjeide> oobe: mmhmm :P
[03:23] <Evil_> Anyway to get past having to put in the Kubuntu disc, because I sorta lost mine lol (when installing the build-essential)
[03:23] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  but you said kde and normal apps are working right - just wine is the problem?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Section "ServerFlags"
[03:23] <Dr_willis>     Option         "Xinerama" "0"
[03:23] <ardchoille> Evil_: You can comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <pjeide> Dr_willis: I am perfectly able to fullscreen applications on one screen as long as the app doesn't seem fundamentally flawed
[03:23] <Dr_willis> is whats in my main machine.. I THINK 0 = disables Xinerama
[03:23] <Evil_> ok, thanks, ardchoille
[03:24] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  yep. Ive seen the same issue under windows also.. bad programing. :(
[03:24] <ardchoille> Evil_: If you do that, then you'l need to reload the sources to take effect: sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <pjeide> Dr_willis: So put that way, yes, it seems as though WINE's implementation of DirectX only detects the resolution reported by KDE
[03:24] <oobe> xinerama is meant for running 2 xservers i forgot to mention that
[03:24] <pjeide> oobe: Which I am uninterested in doing
[03:24] <oobe> but that is a sure way of setting it up to work
[03:24] <pjeide> I see.
[03:24] <pjeide> that is logical
[03:25] <Dr_willis> xinerama i though twas ment to set 2 displays to be seen as one large one...  twinview does a similer task but with some specific exceptions,details worked out.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> ie; maxamizing to just 1 monitor, and so forth.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> the #wine guys and forums for wine may have some work arounds.
[03:26] <Dr_willis> There may be a way to tell wine 'my monitor is actually.... So x So'
[03:26] <pjeide> Dr_willis, oobe, ardchoille: thanks for your assistance
[03:27] <ardchoille> yw
[03:27] <oobe> np
[03:27] <oobe> hope you get there
[03:28] <oobe> pjeide, you could try using a different driver like nv or vesa
[03:28] <pjeide> that is another option
[03:28] <oobe> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-456493.html
[03:28] <apparle> how to change the resolution of the logon screen
[03:28] <Evil_> to the people who told helped me, I solute you! XD
[03:28] <pjeide> I went through quite a fiasco rewriting my xorg.conf to accept this video card over the onboard Intel gpu along with blacklisting the onboard's driver.. I am reluctant to go through rewriting the file again :-)  It sounds as though trying to futz with WINE might be the best option
[03:29] <Evil_> salute* whatever l0l
[03:29] <oobe> you should disable ur onboard graphics card in the bios
[03:30] <apparle> what to do to change the resolution of logon screen
[03:30] <oobe> and its not that hard to switch drivers its only one line
[03:30] <oobe> you can back up your xorg.conf
[03:30] <pjeide> oobe: of course
[03:30] <pjeide> oobe: I am just less than compelled to play with it more from that end
[03:30] <oobe> did you disable your onboard card?
[03:30] <pjeide> yes
[03:31] <pjeide> well
[03:31] <pjeide> the BIOS only has the option to set priority
[03:31] <oobe> wow i thought that would of fixed it
[03:31] <oobe> oh ok
[03:31] <rick_> Anyone know Quanta+ ?
[03:31] <pjeide> which is similiar to disabling I suppose, because it will give priority to the PCI card (second hand box) in the event that one is detected
[03:31] <pjeide> and the onboard card gets disabled
[03:32] <pjeide> which alone wasn't sufficient, neither was blacklisting the intel driver.  I had to rewrite xorg file using a configuration utility, which got it booted right up
[03:32] <ardchoille> rick_: Have you tried ubuntu forums?
[03:32] <rick_> nope, how do I get there?
[03:32] <ardchoille> rick_: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[03:33] <rick_> I thought someone here might use it I can chat with
[03:34] <rick_> how do I change chat color ?
[03:34] <ardchoille> rick_: Good idea to try here first, but failing that, ubuntu forums is awesome.
[03:34] <ardchoille> rick_: Which chat client?
[03:34] <rick_> konversation
[03:34] <rick_> I just started using kubuntu
[03:35] <ardchoille> rick_: In the config dialog > Interface > Colors
[03:36] <rick_> ok I think
[03:36] <rick_> yup, got it
[03:37] <apparle> when I select the Ubutnu from grub menu I get 2 errors before kubuntu boots. I also get hte same errors  with live CD before booting starts. Can it be a problem
[03:37] <ardchoille> apparle: Sounds like a hardware problem. What are the errors?
[03:38] <jhutchins> apparle: Does it boot and work after that?
[03:42] <oobe> oobe, hello
[03:42] <apparle> something like "cannot allocate " something "of a" something "PCI device"
[03:42] <apparle> where something is a number
[03:43] <apparle> jhutchins: Yes everything else works perfectly
[03:46] <Zoo1> I'm stuck on the livecd boot up. I have a dual monitor setup, and one monitor reports out of range and the other monitor shows a tiny portion of the desktop
[03:47] <Zoo1> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?
[03:49] <apparle> Zoo1: when you get the initial menu before booting, set a common resoltion which will be visible on both the screens
[03:50] <Zoo1> How do I do that?
[03:51] <andre_> hello gents
[03:51] <sMonk> I have a small problem with adept
[03:52] <sMonk> every time I try to upgrade, or install something, after it's done d/l and tries to install it gets about 1/2 way then I get an error
[03:52] <Zoo1> apparle: How do I do that?
[03:53] <sMonk> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"
[03:53] <Neoxeekhrobe> Zoo1: just detach your second monitor.
[03:53] <sMonk> But the "program" that I'm installing seems to install and work fine... it's more of an annoyance
[03:53] <apparle> Zoo1: when you insert the disc. You will see a 30sec timed menu. Press the function key for selection for graphics(mostly F4 or F5) and select a common resolution appropriate for both the screens
[03:54] <Neoxeekhrobe> guys in KDE(kubuntu) when I use tab button to move around within a dialog window I am unable to see where the focus is going. If there are too many fields and buttons, I am forced to use the mouse. Is there a way to change this so that I could see the focus move?
[03:54] <Neoxeekhrobe> I am unable to see focus mover over buttons and check boxes. Links and text fields are fine.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Neoxeekhrobe,  may want to try some other themes/widget sets.
[03:55] <Neoxeekhrobe> I am currently using the default theme.
[03:56] <ardchoille> Neoxeekhrobe: Some apps which have tabs have the tab key focus run into the depths of those tabs.. so if yo ar enot on the tab that is currently focused with the tab key, you won't see the focus.
[03:56] <ardchoille> And then there are devs who don't even set tab focus when deisgning the apps
[03:56] <Neoxeekhrobe> but its like the same thing on all apps
[03:57] <Neoxeekhrobe> even on dialog boxes that have no tabs
[03:57] <apparle> zoo1: did you get it to work
[03:57] <sMonk> Hello
[03:57] <apparle> hello
[03:58] <Neoxeekhrobe> ok I just checked konqueror and yes I can see the focus in its dialog boxes.
[03:58] <Neoxeekhrobe> Thanks
[03:59] <andre_> i know this is of topic but have any of you used pioneer, its kubuntu based
[04:00] <ardchoille> andre_: And, iirc, it has automatix installed by default.. no , I won't use it.
[04:00] <apparle> how to update kubuntu
[04:00] <ardchoille> !update | apparle
[04:00] <ubotu> apparle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:01] <apparle> ardchoille: I don't want to upgrade. I want to update 7.10
[04:02] <zibrah3ed> apparle: sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get update
[04:03] <apparle> zibrah3ed: Any offline method
[04:03] <itst> can anyone help?
[04:03] <itst> V
[04:03] <itst> pam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> apparle: i saw one yesterday let me see if i can find it again
[04:04] <apparle> zibrah3ed: Please be fast
[04:05] <Zoo1> Yes apparle, thanks!
[04:05] <zibrah3ed> apparle: see if this helps http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> apparle: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572819
[04:09] <Zoo1> That's interesting... new problem. While installing, I get the keyboard layout, hit next, it pauses at scanning disks and times out...
[04:09] <Zoo1> Have two SATA drives
[04:09] <apparle> zibrah3ed: everything else fits. Just that I have a fast net machine with Windows XP
[04:10] <Zoo1> Both have NTFS partitions, one has some ext3 partitions I set up in QTParted for it
[04:11] <sMonk> Can I get some help with an Adept problem?
[04:11] <zibrah3ed> apparle: Use livecd?
[04:13] <alfredo_> hi
[04:13] <apparle> zibrah3ed: any other option or a software which may work the same way on windows
[04:14] <alfredo_> OPPK
[04:15] <apparle> alfredo_:what is OPPK
[04:19] <zibrah3ed> apparle: not that i am aware of
[04:23] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having trouble getting gmail-notify to run on boot for me, can anyone help me out?
[04:24] <apparle> zibrah3ed: what if we compiled the source for apt in windows
[04:31] <pierreth> hello, what is the best reference to use to be able to read dvd with kubuntu 7.10?
[04:32] <apparle> bye everyone
[04:32] <pierreth> bye
[04:36] <zibrah3ed> pierreth: DVD movies or what
[04:38] <smooker> How do i burn .iso images ?
[04:38] <zibrah3ed> smooker:K3b
[04:38] <ardchoille> smooker: With k3b
[04:38] <ardchoille> pierreth: You need to install libdvdcss2 and libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:38] <smooker> oic
[04:39] <ardchoille> !dvd | pierreth
[04:39] <ubotu> pierreth: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:39] <smooker> 10x
[04:42] <smooker> k3b is cool :)
[04:42] <ardchoille> Yeah
[04:42] <t3ch13> Anyone have any expereince with Kubuntu on a Acer Laptop?
[04:43] <pierreth> I found this: http://brenta.free.fr/spip.php?article95
[04:44] <smooker> where i can see how much processor / ram is my system using ?
[04:44] <Hirvinen> top gives some information on processes
[04:44] <Hirvinen> + and processor usage
[04:44] <t3ch13> from a terminal free will give memory usesage
[04:44] <pierreth> ubotu: What do you mean by backing DVDs?
[04:44] <t3ch13> top
[04:45] <Hirvinen> For memory, free -m. What is really available is the second number on the second row.
[04:45] <smooker> where do i see how much processor and ram my system use ?
[04:46] <pierreth> ardchoille: I will try these
[04:48] <smooker> wth
[04:48] <smooker> Mem:          1899       1840         58
[04:48] <smooker> Kubuntu doesnt use swap til mem fill ?
[04:49] <stdin> why would it, swap is slow
[04:49] <t3ch13> snooker there is a utility called KDE System Guard that might be helpful
[04:50] <kopernico> HOLA
[04:50] <kopernico> hay alguien
[04:51] <kopernico> holaaaaaaaaa
[04:51] <kopernico> culitos
[04:51] <stdin> !es | kopernico
[04:51] <ubotu> kopernico: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:52] <stdin> smooker: you can install the package "kicker-applets" to get a nice system monitor applet for kicker too
[04:52] <ardchoille> stdin: Your cloak isn't going to change to reflect membership status?
[04:53] <stdin> ardchoille: it will when I get around to asking :P
[04:53] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:54] <smooker> apt-get kicker-applets ?
[04:54] <pierreth> OK, by DVDs not seems to work, thank you.
[04:54] <stdin> smooker: close "sudo apt-get install kicker-applets"
[04:55] <smooker> after install where it is located ?
[04:56] <stdin> smooker: you right-click the panel, choose  "Add applet to panel" and add the "System Monitor" applet
[05:00] <smooker> nice
[05:02] <level1> Hi, I have some sega gensis roms and i want to map them to the sega genesis emulator dgen; the problem is that the system doesn't understand the difference between a genesis rom and an application file, so if I change the associations, I get an error message every time I start an application
[05:02] <level1> I changed the file extentions to .gen, but it still complains
[05:04] <smooker> good night all :)
[05:11] <ardchoille> level1: Does it complain that applications/octet-stream can be found or something?
[05:11] <level1> Could not find mime type application/octet-stream
[05:11] <ardchoille> Right
[05:12] <level1> I get that error message every time I start an app... the app still starts
[05:12] <level1> causes some trouble on startup too
[05:12] <ardchoille> level1: Sometimes changing file associations can remove the octet-stream, you just need to re-add it. I'll help you do that.
[05:12] <level1> I tried changing the first four bits of each file, it still has this problem
[05:12] <level1> ardchoille: I can do that
[05:13] <ardchoille> level1: ok, add octet-stream back to the applications group but don't give it a file extension or an application
[05:13] <level1> ardchoille: I just want to be able to one click open my roms, but when I re-add octet-stream, I lose the genesis roms
[05:13] <ardchoille> That's a bug, I don't know how to fix it, tho :(
[05:14] <level1> ardchoille: anyway, I tried changing the first four bytes of each file in a hex editor and then putting the association back in... didn't seem to work, although dgen still opens the files
[05:15] <ardchoille> level1: Have you tried right clicking a genesis rom, choose Open with > Other, then choose the app top open it in, and check the checkbox at the bottom (Remember application association..)?
[05:15] <level1> ardchoille: It doesn't provide that checkbox
[05:15] <scooter_> does anyone know how to crack a windows XP password from the welcome screen?
[05:15] <level1> reminds me of a similar bug in windows
[05:15] <stdin> scooter_: you won't get an answer here
[05:15] <level1> scooter_: I'm not sure if we should be supporting illegal behavior here...
[05:15] <ardchoille> scooter_: This is neither the place to ask about cracking or Windows related stuff
[05:16] <scooter_> yea sorry
[05:16] <level1> I don't know if #windows would help you either, its up to you
[05:16] <stdin> ##windows
[05:16] <level1> it redirects
[05:16] <level1> :)
[05:16] <stdin> sneaky windows people, always redirecting us :p
[05:17] <ardchoille> :)
[05:17]  * purpleposeidon permanently redirects stdin to stdout
[05:17] <level1> stdin: how dare they move to an about channel like that!
[05:17] <level1> stdin > /dev/null
[05:18] <stdin> I have /dev/null symlinked to /dev/stdin, so your plan is foiled! ;)
[05:18] <draik> Does anyone here know where I can find the touchscreen pad which attached to any monitor of any size via USB?
[05:18] <purpleposeidon> stdin: That sounds.....recursive. o_O
[05:18] <stdin> doesn't matter, /dev/stdin doesn't really exist...
[05:19] <nicolas> Hey guys, I just installed 7.10 (dual booting with Gentoo), I used LILO from my Gentoo to boot Kubuntu.  Can anyone check my lilo.conf to ensure it is correct? (for instance, I didnt add the UUID stuff from grub)
[05:19] <stdin> it's not really there, only in your mind
[05:19]  * purpleposeidon redirects stdin to /proc/self/fd/0
[05:20] <stdin> purpleposeidon: still doesn't exist, proc is magical :p
[05:22]  * purpleposeidon surgically opens up stdin's hard drive, puts an ant inside, and closes it
[05:22]  * stdin debugs
[05:22] <ardchoille> There, stdin, you now have a bug
[05:23] <ardchoille> hehe
[05:23] <stdin> same thought :p
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> better make sure you've got GDB installed.
[05:23] <stdin> I have gdb, ddd and kdbg
[05:24] <level1> nicolas: why don't use grub?
[05:24] <level1> nicolas: any reason?
[05:25] <nicolas> level1: Always prefered LILO.  It also allows me to display a bitmap instead of the menu.  Last I checked grub only allows an image as a background to the menu.  That and all my configs were already in LILO on my /boot.  But never encountered all the UUID stuff that kubuntu put into it's grub.  Never seen it configured as a menu.lst either.
[05:26] <level1> my grub doesn't have UUIDs, I don't think...
[05:26] <stdin> nicolas: not sure lilo can do the UUID stiff, but it's not required, you can still use /dev/ addresses
[05:27] <level1> oh I see
[05:27] <level1> if menu.lst is anything like fstab, the UUIDs aren't actually nessary...  I don't know why ubuntu uses them
[05:27] <nicolas> ok, just wondering since I wasnt sure what they were.  Second up would be how do I get KDE4.  AFAIK still in beta but I wouldnt mind trying it.  Is there a metapackage or something for it.
[05:27] <level1> It causes hell when I do any kind of trivial reformating..
[05:28] <nicolas> I've never seen UUIDs in fstab *shrugs*  But I've mostly been on Gentoo and Fedora.
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: I find complining it from source is always much more stable than getting the binaries...
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: it takes a little while (mostly downtime) but its not that hard
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: I'll get you a link
[05:29] <stdin> nicolas: kde4 reached RC1 a little while ago, see the link in the topic to get it
[05:29] <nicolas> checking
[05:29] <level1> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[05:31] <stdin> ardchoille: /whois me :)
[05:31] <sparr_> [how] can i symlink directories across different drives and have the ".." directory behave sensibly?
[05:32] <stdin> sparr_: if you use relative links then you need to make sure the partitions are mounted in the same place all the time
[05:32] <ardchoille> stdin: That's more like it :)
[05:33] <stdin> :)
[05:33] <ardchoille> stdin: Tho, it's good to see the pdpc support
[05:33] <sparr_> stdin: they are
[05:33] <ardchoille> O may apply for membership myself, tho I don't know if I'm eligible
[05:33] <sparr_> stdin: and the links are absolute
[05:34] <stdin> ardchoille: I may get it added back, but I don't need to advertise my support for pdpc as long I a
[05:34] <stdin> * as I support them
[05:34] <ardchoille> True
[05:34] <stdin> spar_: then what's not working in your case?
[05:35] <stdin> ardchoille: why wouldn't you be eligible ?
[05:36] <ardchoille> stdin: I'm not a coder nor an important person
[05:36] <stdin> ardchoille: I only just finished my 1st beginners book on c++, I don't consider myself a coder
[05:36] <purpleposeidon> ardchoille: But do you have money?
[05:37] <stdin> ardchoille: and providing support is important
[05:37] <ardchoille> stdin: I think I'll apply, the most they can say is no.
[05:37] <draik> How do you piece together rar files that are  filename.part001.rar, filename.part002.rar, etc....?
[05:38] <stdin> ardchoille: ask what you can do to help too (with documentation for instance) too
[05:38] <ardchoille> draik: Wouldn't unrar do that?
[05:38] <ardchoille> !rar
[05:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:38] <ardchoille> !unrar
[05:40] <draik> ardchoille: Yet again, thanks for the info.
[05:40] <ardchoille> draik: You're welcome :)
[05:40] <draik> I have the worst luck with part001.rar types
[05:41] <draik> r01 and so forth are ok
[05:41] <somekool> hello
[05:41] <somekool> I want to install kde4 on my kubuntu system, any package of RC1 that can be easily installedÉ
[05:41] <somekool> ??
[05:41] <ardchoille> draik: With today's DSL and high capacity devices, I can nly assume that is an old set of rar files.
[05:41] <stdin> somekool: yes, see the link in the topic
[05:42] <draik> ardchoille: possibly. It's a movie
[05:42] <ardchoille> draik: In that case, it may have been broken down to aid in fast downloading
[05:43] <leileilol> how can i get fluidsynth working as the default midi synth?
[05:43] <draik> ardchoille: And that's fine, but I would prefer r01, r02, etc...
[05:43] <nicolas> Is VMware supported under kubuntu?
[05:43] <ardchoille> draik: yeah
[05:43] <draik> nicolas: Yes
[05:43] <Stokesy> why is 667 ram more expensive than 800?
[05:44] <nicolas> draik: just run the tarball or is there a adept repo I havent found?
[05:44] <draik> 667 is the neighbor to The Beast
[05:44] <draik> !vmware
[05:44] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:44] <Stokesy> is 667 better than 800? all of dell's 'high end' machines have 667
[05:44] <nicolas> Stokesy: RAM is priced to order.  Its about the only computer component that isnt priced as per its performance.
[05:47] <draik> It's late. I'm going to leave the desktop on overnight to download the movie at average 25KB/s. :/
[05:47] <nicolas> thats a wee bit slow.  Better be a good movie heh
[05:48] <somekool> I have a serious keyboard problem that I really can`t fix..  I set my xorg to a french-canadian keyboard which works fine under kdm login manager. but once i logon in KDE, it get screwed and becomes half working. any idea what could it be ?
[05:49] <stdin> have you set the keyboard layout in system settings > regional & language ?
[05:50] <IceGuest_7> could someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for installing kubuntu while still keeping winxp intact?  that whole partition thing has me a little confused.  thank you in advance.
[05:51] <stdin> hmm, maybe ubotu knows...
[05:51] <stdin> !dualboot
[05:51] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:51] <stdin> well, ubotu knows all :)
[05:51] <IceGuest_7> thank you so much, have a good night.
[05:55] <titanix88> hi people:)
[05:55] <titanix88> :(
[05:56] <leileilol> :((
[05:57] <titanix88> hi leileilol :)
[05:58] <titanix88> anyone know any channel abt linux games?
[05:58] <leileilol> #gametome?
[05:59] <titanix88> hmm.
[06:01] <bfrog> I've heard there's lots of issues with 7.10... is that true?
[06:02] <jddm> ENTONCES
[06:02] <jddm> QUE MAS
[06:03] <posingaspopular> !es
[06:03] <leileilol> i've had worse ati install issues in gutsy, but that's it
[06:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[06:03] <titanix88> whats the shortcut for switching tabs in gaim(not pidgin)?
[06:03] <jddm> OK
[06:06] <posingaspopular> titanix88: alt+ctrl up and down iirc
[06:07] <stdin> bfrog: I've had no issues with 7.10
[06:08] <bfrog> are all the typical non-free somewhat-non-legal codecs available as well?
[06:08] <bfrog> like, lame, is lame available?
[06:08] <posingaspopular> bfrog: yes
[06:08] <bfrog> ok
[06:08] <bfrog> and one last one
[06:08] <bfrog> mythtv?
[06:09] <titanix88> posingaspopular: doesn't work for me:(
[06:09] <posingaspopular> bfrog: you can run mythbuntu
[06:09] <bfrog> sweet
[06:09] <posingaspopular> it's ubuntu specialized for mythv
[06:09] <bfrog> alright, thanks, time to switch then
[06:09] <bfrog> tired of crap not working
[06:09] <posingaspopular> superm1 and chadarius are two guys I know who help with that
[06:31] <trillis> Could anyone spare some time to help a nub?
[06:32] <trillis> :(
[06:32] <trillis> How can I get Youtube to work for Linux?
[06:33] <INIT_6> trillis, do you have flash installed?
[06:33] <titanix88> trillis: install flash-plugin-nonfree
[06:33] <trillis> Eh... Nevermind. It's not youtube I need help with.
[06:34] <INIT_6> Right now, I am kind of stuck using VLC to play music. what is a really good mp3 player for kubuntu. don't like amarok, or kaffine. any suggestions?
[06:34] <trillis> I don't suppose theres a Divx webplayer for Linux?
[06:34] <trillis> xmms?
[06:35] <INIT_6> I will try it thanks, and good ? on the Divx, I will check into that right now. cuz I will need that to :)
[06:36] <trillis> Streaming movies aren't working for me...:(
[06:37] <trillis> I found a good site with working streaming videos, but I keep getting these install-plugin errors.
[06:37]  * trillis wants to watch the last samurai :(
[06:38] <INIT_6> stage6 has the best divx movies. same issue for me, says to use mplayer,
[06:38] <stdin> please don't talk about potentially illegal activities in here (or any other ubuntu affiliated channel)
[06:38] <trillis> My apologies.
[06:39] <INIT_6> avifile-divx-plugin < you can try this I would but I am installing other stuff.
[06:39] <stdin> just install mozilla-mplayer
[06:40] <stdin> (you may need to put "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf for divx)
[06:41] <trillis> So type: "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf" after sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[06:41]  * trillis is linux retarded
[06:42] <stdin> try starting up a video in firefox first, then the file should be created, then edit it
[06:42] <trillis> Should I install mozilla-mplayer first?
[06:42] <stdin> yes
[06:43] <stdin> and if you've installed any other media player plugins for firefox you should remove them
[06:43] <stdin> they can conflict and stop each other
[06:43] <trillis> Said broken packages...?
[06:44] <stdin> helps to have the whole error message, pastebin is your friend
[06:44] <trillis> link?
[06:44] <stdin> !paste
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <trillis> Heheh
[06:45] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46535/
[06:46] <stdin> trillis: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:47] <trillis> Whats that?
[06:47] <stdin> !multiverse
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:49] <trillis> Not sure...
[06:51] <sigma_> hi guys, does the fglrx driver enable tv out functionality on the ati radeon mobility 9000?
[06:51] <trillis> stdin: It appears so.
[06:52] <stdin> trillis: try "sudo apt-get install mplayer" then
[06:52] <fildo> hey if i have upgraded to gutsy, is there anyway to revert back to fiesty, cause i have hardware issues with video card
[06:53] <sigma_> fildo: nope just backup and format
[06:53] <trillis> "Unable to lock the administration directory(?var/lib/dpkg)
[06:53] <fildo> sigma_: narh there must be a way
[06:54] <stdin> trillis: did you use sudo?
[06:54] <trillis> Yes.
[06:54] <stdin> fildo: there is not
[06:54] <stdin> trillis: have adept or another package manager open?
[06:54] <trillis> Yes..heheh.
[06:54] <sigma_> fildo: even if there was one the system would prob be very unstable after you reverted back
[06:55] <trillis> "Package mplayer has no installation candidate"
[06:55] <stdin> trillis: you sure you have multiverse enabled?
[06:55] <stdin> !info mplayer
[06:55] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[06:55] <sigma_> fildo: i think the dev's are still looking into implement some sort of a rollback feature
[06:55] <trillis> Uhm...
[06:55] <trillis> How can I check?
[06:56] <fildo> sigma_:  yeah true
[06:56] <stdin> trillis: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[06:56] <trillis> Departed maybe?
[06:56] <trillis> How to I check?
[06:56] <stdin> !version
[06:56] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[06:57] <trillis> Dapper
[06:57] <trillis> Heheh, I knew it had a  d and a p.
[06:57] <sigma_> does anyone know if xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-12.4_i386.deb will work on feisty? i tried it on gutsy with my ati mobility 9000 and it picked up the driver but didnt work
[06:58] <sigma_> trillis: dam don't you think its time to upgrade:)
[06:58] <stdin> trillis: close all package managers, press Alt-F2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then post that file to pastebin
[06:59] <stdin> sigma_: why didn't you install the gutsy version of the driver on gutsy?
[06:59] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46536/
[07:00] <sigma_> stdin: ati dropped support for my chipset in that version :( so i can't use the latest version
[07:00] <stdin> sigma_: then your only option is to get the old driver from ati.com and install that (if it exists)
[07:01] <sigma_> i got the version from the ubuntu repo's, is that the same thing?
[07:02] <stdin> sigma_: no, that version will only work with a certain kernal version, the 2.6.17 one (gutsy uses 2.6.22)
[07:02] <stdin> trillis: see the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe", add the word "multiverse" after "universe" so it looks like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"
[07:03] <sigma_> dam!
[07:03] <sigma_> so if i install the binary one from the ati website in gutsy it should work you say?
[07:03] <trillis> To all of them?
[07:03] <stdin> trillis: no, just that one line
[07:04] <stdin> sigma_: only if that particular version is available
[07:04] <fildo> ok i have a nvidia question if anyone can answer for me
[07:04] <sigma_> ya i saw it on the ati site - they keep it in the archives
[07:04] <trillis> save?
[07:04] <stdin> sigma_: or you could get "fglrx-kernel-source" from feisty and compile that one on gutsy, that may work
[07:05] <stdin> trillis: yes, then do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:05] <sigma_> fildo: shoot, nvidia is usually simpler than ati
[07:05] <sigma_> ]stdin: what does that kernel source thing do?
[07:05] <trillis> It finished, not try mozilla-mplayer?
[07:06] <stdin> sigma_: that's the source of the driver, the same one that's used to make the driver on feisty
[07:06] <stdin> trillis: yes
[07:06] <trillis> Yaay, thank you stdin.
[07:07] <sigma_> stdin: does it work on gutsy as well and how exactly do i use it after installing it?
[07:07] <trillis> I'll most likely be on tomorrow with many more questions and dilemma's.
[07:07] <fildo> sigma_: using fiesty i was using the proprietary driver it worked brillant. now i have upgraded to gutsy. using the proprietary driver , it tend to login to kde, then boot me out into the login screen after a few mins, like its crashing
[07:07] <trillis> Thanks, and have a good night.
[07:07] <stdin> sigma_: you get that package and then do something like "sudo ma ai fglrx" i think
[07:07] <TAB-2112> hello all, if I've installed Ubuntu from the Live CD and have now decided that I definitely prefer KDE to GNOME, is there any easy way to remove the GNOME-based apps?
[07:07] <Radi01> ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ
[07:08] <Radi01> whew
[07:08] <stdin> Radi01: that gets very old very fast
[07:08] <ardchoille> Radi01: Yeah, that's a nice website :P
[07:08] <Radi01> did ya find it
[07:09] <sigma_> fildo: did you build the driver from the nvidia or use the glx drivers in the repo?
[07:09] <fildo> glx in the repo
[07:09] <fildo> i usally install it myself, thru apt-get
[07:09] <ardchoille> Radi01: I was going to suggest you stand on your head :)
[07:09] <Radi01> lol
[07:09] <fildo> but i have been told you can also use restircted-manager
[07:10] <Radi01> Some people have no sense of humor.
[07:10] <fildo> fiesty used to use nvidia-glx
[07:10] <sigma_> fildo: dont use restricted manager, confuses the situation, what card do you have?
[07:11] <fildo> gutsy uses nvidia-glx-new. could be the driver i say
[07:11] <fildo> im on a laptop
[07:11] <sigma_> fildo: gutsy also uses it, thats how i installed my one, no there is a "nvidia-glx" version for gutsy
[07:12] <sigma_> check it out @ packages.ubuntu.com
[07:12] <fildo> nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] (rev a1)
[07:13] <ardchoille> Here's how I install nvidia drivers in my Gutsy system: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:13] <ardchoille> Done :)
[07:13] <ardchoille> Of course, you have to restart xorg
[07:13] <fildo> hehe
[07:14] <fildo> i just wanna play et
[07:14] <ardchoille> lol
[07:14] <mark_> question: just installed kubuntu gutsy on my lenovo T40 lappy.  I'm checking dmesg and I'm seeing repeated messages "printk: x messages suppressed.".  What am I looking at?
[07:16] <ardchoille> mark_: Does this page have any info that helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412125
[07:17] <sigma_> stdin: r u still there?
[07:17] <ardchoille> sigma_: pfft, he lives here
[07:17]  * ardchoille ducks
[07:17] <stdin>  /cs kb ardchoille ;)
[07:17] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:17] <stdin> damn, put a space in there :p
[07:17] <ardchoille> Lucky for me
[07:18] <mark_> ardchoille: err... well, at a quick skimming I can't see anything that relates, but thanks...
[07:19] <ardchoille> mark_: Sorry about that, that was all I could find in google
[07:20] <stdin> sigma_: you wanted me for something?
[07:20] <m0u5e> anyone know where xserver-xgl stored its config files?
[07:20] <mark_> ardchoille: np.  I've searched google myself and I've found some references to reducing some logging, but nothing that specifically states what that particular message indicates nor what it might be indicitive of...
[07:20] <sigma_> stdin: will i be able to use that ati driver i got from the ubuntu repo's with that fglrx-kernel-source package you told me to get?
[07:20] <purpleposeidon> How do I make wlassistant run with that setuid thing?
[07:21] <stdin> sigma_: no, that package lets you build a driver package from it
[07:21] <purpleposeidon> If I do chmod+s; it says The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.
[07:21] <sigma_> stdin: ok im lost what do you mean?
[07:21] <ardchoille> purpleposeidon: Be careful with setuid, are you sure you really need to change that?
[07:22] <purpleposeidon> ardchoille: Yeah, I'm lazy.
[07:22] <ardchoille> purpleposeidon: fwiw, being lazy can open up a security hole where one wouldn't otherwise be open :)
[07:22] <purpleposeidon> "Oh no, somebody's gonna somehow login to my laptop and do x forwarding, and change my wireless access point!"
[07:24] <stdin> sigma_: from what I think I know ;) you do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic fglrx-kernel-source" then do "sudo m-a prepare,update" then "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel"
[07:25] <stdin> sigma_: just found this, should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3
[07:26] <sigma_> stdin: but will it build it from the edgy deb that i got?
[07:26] <stdin> sigma_: the fglrx-kernel-source package is just the source, it should build on any version
[07:27] <stdin> *should* (doesn't mean it will)
[07:27] <sigma_> lol
[07:28] <sigma_> stdin: i installed everything and have fglrx.deb sitting on my desktop, whats the command i must type in Konsole to convert it?
[07:28] <stdin> convert to what?
[07:28] <sigma_> convert it to a gutsy deb
[07:29] <stdin> if you built it with module-assistant then it is
[07:32] <sigma_> i didnt build it yet stdin, its the one i downloaded from the ubuntu repo
[07:39] <sigma_> ok that didnt work, looks like il have 2get the ati driver from ati.com
[07:56] <abuaoi> hello...anybody home ????
[08:00] <jdlizard> anyone know anything about vdrift
[08:01] <posingaspopular> hi abuaoi
[08:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah crap, just read the news about KDE 4.0 being pushed back another month to mid-january   : P
[08:41] <Lynoure> I could not figure out how to add things to panels in KDE4 rc1 yet, so not really eager for it. :)  (help is welcome, though)
[08:43] <sigma_> why can't k3b burn multisession dvd-rw's on lg dvd writers?
[08:43] <sigma_> it keeps telling me some incremental streaming method is not available
[08:44] <Lynoure> I have an LG writer but I have not had need to try multisession dvd-rw yet...
[08:44] <sigma_> lynoure: it don't work and i dont know why, i like multisession because i used it in windows to do my backups quickly
[08:45] <Lynoure> sigma_: you mean you have already gotten some other people to verify it does not work for them either?
[08:46] <sigma_> lynoure: nope but i tried it on both my pc's - one intel and one amd will totally diff hardware but the same dvd-rw drive and it doesnt work
[08:48] <Lynoure> sigma_: it's still possible you are missing some software on both, but you could check Launchpad for that, and maybe report a bug
[08:48] <sigma_> ok i see but can they fix k3b?
[08:48] <Lynoure> the exact error message would help, too. As I cannot test with dvd-rw now (none of them around right now)
[08:49] <Lynoure> They can delegate bug reports, and it being open source, yes, fixing is possible, too.
[08:58] <sigma_> does anyone know how to change the phpmyadmin password manually?
[09:01] <leileilol> i wish that "fluidsynth: warning: ALSA sequencer buffer overrun, lost events" warning went away
[09:02] <leileilol> internet says 'ignore it, it's harmless' but it's actually making a huge oversampled playback that hurts ears
[09:08] <giano> test
[09:08] <hangthedj> test?
[09:08] <giano> yeah sorry i'm testing connection ;)
[09:08] <osman47> !de
[09:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:09] <hangthedj> giano, it works!
[09:09] <giano> yeah!
[09:09] <giano> now i try with proxy...go and get another channel
[09:09] <giano> :D
[09:10] <giano> ok #a is good enough
[09:10] <hangthedj> i love proxies.
[09:16] <Lynoure> Is there somewhere instructions on how to use kde4? I have it installed, but I don't understand how to do some things yet (panels, mostly)
[09:35] <wiggy> hello
[09:35] <wiggy> hello ???
[09:36] <leon_romain> hello wiggy
[09:36] <hangthedj> wiggy | hi
[09:36] <hangthedj> hi
[09:36] <hangthedj> oops
[09:37] <hangthedj> wiggy, hi!
[09:37] <hangthedj> !hi | wiggy
[09:37] <ubotu> wiggy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:37] <hangthedj> there we go
[09:37] <wiggy> Thanks
[09:37] <wiggy> can someone tell me how to turn my kubuntu into french ?
[09:37] <wiggy> I've just installed it but everything is in english
[09:39] <stdin> wiggy: should be in KMenu > System Settings > Regional & Language
[09:39] <wiggy> ok, let me check it
[09:39] <hangthedj> wiggy, when you installed why didn't you choose your language?
[09:41] <wiggy> I chose french
[09:41] <Cicci0> hi... someone has tried installing klamav on kubuntu 7.10?
[09:41] <wiggy> but the system comes in english
[09:41] <Cicci0> I can't install successfully dazuko module
[09:41] <wiggy> stdin, I don't have french in the list
[09:41] <jpatrick> Cicci0: you probably won't ever need it, but I have installed clamav
[09:41] <hangthedj> wiggy, the installation should let you choose your language though.
[09:42] <Cicci0> jpatrick: I need it cause I'd like to have online control on removable media (for work purpose)
[09:42] <wiggy> I said that I choose french during the installation hangthedj
[09:42] <hangthedj> weird.
[09:43] <Cicci0> I can use klamav and clamav without problems but I'd like to have real-time analysis...
[09:43] <jpatrick> wiggy: installed language-pack-kde-fr?
[09:43] <jpatrick> Cicci0: sorry, I can't help you there :(
[09:43] <wiggy> how to do it ?
[09:43] <jpatrick> wiggy: type "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-fr" into the konsole
[09:44] <jpatrick> Cicci0: unless you look for the logs in /var/logs
[09:44] <wiggy> thanks
[09:45] <jpatrick> wiggy: and afterwards it should appear under Languages in system settings
[09:47] <Dragonath> anyone know if skype meant for 7.04 works on 7.10 too?
[09:47] <jpatrick> Dragonath: I have installed it on Gutsy
[09:47] <jpatrick> from skype.com
[09:47] <Dragonath> and it works ok?
[09:47] <jpatrick> haven't tried it (for dad)
[09:48] <Dragonath> ahh
[09:48] <jpatrick> but it worked fine on his lappy
[09:49] <Dragonath> gonna try anyways, thanks
[09:55] <Lynoure> Dragonath: it does.
[09:55] <Lynoure> Dragonath: at least for basic stuff, no video for me :)
[10:02] <dpix> hello
[10:03] <hangthedj> !hi | dpix
[10:03] <ubotu> dpix: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:03] <dpix> is it compatible KDE + ATI X600 + COMPIZ-FUSION?
[10:03] <hangthedj> !compiz
[10:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:05] <jpatrick> !es | dpix
[10:05] <ubotu> dpix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:10] <swayer> hi
[10:10] <dpix> hello
[10:10] <dpix> kubuntu compiz-fusion
[10:11] <dpix> compiz-fusion
[10:11] <dpix> !compiz-fusion
[10:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:12] <ashley_> hi
[10:13] <hangthedj> ashley_, whats going on?
[10:28] <jordinateur> ther's noone ?
[10:28] <jpatrick> could be..
[10:28] <jpatrick> !fr | jordinateur
[10:28] <ubotu> jordinateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:29] <jordinateur> How do you know I'm french ??
[10:29] <jpatrick> I have my ways...
[10:29] <jpatrick> nah, it's just --> jordinateur has joined this channel (*@*FR).
[10:29] <jordinateur> hha okay
[10:30] <jordinateur> bah there's noone in french channel ;p
[10:30] <jordinateur> so I've a big recurent problem with compiz
[10:30] <jpatrick> jordinateur: there are 26 people in the kubuntu-fr one
[10:30] <jpatrick> !compiz | jordinateur
[10:30] <ubotu> jordinateur: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:31] <jordinateur> when I active compiz (I don't know how to say that) my screen is blank !! I must return in konsole mode to enter some lines to kill compiz's process to work normaly
[10:32] <jordinateur> it's must be in cause of glx or I don't know...
[10:32] <jordinateur> I've installed drivers of my graphic card !
[10:33] <jordinateur> It worked good yesterday but after a reboot, there's this blank screen
[10:33] <jordinateur> P.S : Sorry for my bad english ^^
[10:34] <onishidato> can someone tell me what is Wine program?
[10:34] <sigma_> how do i delete the suspend and hibernate buttons from my logout dialog?
[10:34] <onishidato> !wine
[10:34] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[10:35] <sigma_> onishidato: its a windows emulator that helps you run win programs in linux
[10:42] <onishidato> i can't not close the apt program on my computer. they say that i don't 'have permission. But i'm the administrator. how can i do now?
[10:43] <onishidato> hello
[10:44] <onishidato> anyone here?
[10:45] <hangthedj> onishidato, you can't not close, do you mean you can't close
[10:48] <_DT> onishidato: open a terminal window. type sudo killall synaptic
[10:48] <_DT> that should do it. you'll need to enter your root pass though
[10:49] <_DT> it basically stops the program from the command line by killing the process
[10:49] <stdin> _DT: onishidato left a while ago
[10:49] <jpatrick> :> ...
[10:57] <JackWinter> is there a good program to produce animated gifs of screenshots, or to record the desktop including mouse movements.  i'd like to make a few tutorials.
[10:57] <llutz> JackWinter: recordmydesktop
[10:58] <stdin> !screencast | JackWinter
[10:58] <ubotu> JackWinter: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[10:59] <ilor> is there somewhere a guide on making fn-keys work on laptops?
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> !find milo
[10:59] <ubotu> Found: kmilo, kmilo-legacy
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> !info kmilo | ilor, perhaps this software?
[11:00] <ubotu> ilor, perhaps this software?: kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:01] <ilor> I seem to have it already installed
[11:01] <hangthedj> kmilo is a peice of crap
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> ilor: yeah it probably is. which keys did you want?
[11:01] <ilor> I want brightness and volume
[11:01] <ilor> the rest I dont care
[11:02] <ilor> the panel-light-off key works
[11:03] <JackWinter> which screen capture program do you guys prefer.  i might lean to recordmydesktop since it's in the repo and has a kde frontend?
[11:03] <ilor> and the volume "kind of" works - it goes form 0% to 11% only and doesn't actually affect the colume
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> !fn
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <hangthedj> ilor, what kind of computer do you have?
[11:03] <ilor> asus f3jp
[11:04] <hangthedj> if your having the 11% bug, kmilo won't work with your computer
[11:04] <hangthedj> it only recognizes, the master channel so if your first channel is like pcm, it wont work.
[11:04] <ilor> what should I do then?
[11:05] <hangthedj> or front
[11:05] <hangthedj> uninstall it, and map your keys using the kmix global keyboard shortcuts
[11:05] <hangthedj> there will be no osd, but it will control your volume
[11:06] <hangthedj> big reason why i use kubuntu for my desktop and ubuntu for my laptop
[11:09] <Raizard> Hello all
[11:10] <jpatrick> !hi | Raizard
[11:10] <ubotu> Raizard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:10] <Raizard> I have a problem with linuxant driverloader. I install it correctly but konqueror isn't able to open the web configuration panel. Can anyone help me?
[11:13] <Raizard> ah in Ubuntu all work in the right way, so i can't figure out why it doen't qork in kubuntu
[11:13] <Raizard> work*
[11:13] <dyson> werd
[11:13] <dyson> compiz --replace takes me to a login screen then loads default meta :/
[11:14] <dyson> i`m on gutsy, got it working on feisty, shouldn't have upgraded
[11:14] <Raizard> dyson
[11:15] <dyson> ye?
[11:15] <Raizard> compiz --replace doesn't work for me 'cause it's a difference between feisty and gutsy
[11:15] <dyson> solution?
[11:15] <dyson> answers man, gimme answes :P
[11:16] <Raizard> i activated compiz in the control panel
[11:16] <dyson> there's a control panel?
[11:16] <Raizard> i choosed Advance desktop effects
[11:16] <Raizard> and i have compiz fusion to work
[11:16] <dyson> what do you mean by control panel
[11:16] <Raizard> mmm
[11:17] <Raizard> ^^ i'm a newbie in kubuntu, i'm talking about ubuntu but i think the solution is quite the same
[11:17] <JackWinter> ok,recordmydesktop works good, and i like the integration in kde.  how do i convert the resulting .ogg file to animated gif?
[11:18] <Raizard> can anyone help me with linuxant driverloader???
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: you could check in #ubuntu
[11:19] <Raizard> no i'm talking about KUBUNTU
[11:19] <Raizard> i think i'm in the right place
[11:20] <gabbah> what program do you use to monitor your cpu temp?
[11:20] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sure are. ok the linuxant download?
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: ok, succeful install
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: but konqueror can't use the web configuration panel
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i don't know why
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: neither do i. have you tried in firefox?
[11:21] <Lynoure> gabbah: I usually just do  acpi -t  occasionally, but depending on your system it might not work out of the box
[11:21] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: that's what i want to do
[11:22] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: do you think it makes it to work?
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sorry i never used the linuxant drivers
[11:23] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: in sabayon linux konqueror was able to access the web conf panel
[11:23] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: in ubuntu all works fine
[11:23] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sorry i really do not know
[11:23] <gabbah> gabriel@gabriel-desktop:~$ acpi -t
[11:23] <gabbah> No support for device type: thermal
[11:24] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: In Kubuntu doesn't work
[11:24] <Lynoure> Does anyone know a source for Gutsy packaget Kraft?
[11:24] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: Maybe is tit a problem of port?
[11:25] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i have to login at http://<IP_ADDRESS>:18020/
[11:26] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: Do i have to open this port, wich maybe is closed by default?
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> are you using a proxy? maybe squid has not been configured to allow 18020 as a safe port
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> you should be able to connect to it from localhost though i suppose a firewall could be blocking that too
[11:26] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i have a default installation of kubuntu
[11:27] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: what is squid?
[11:27] <jpatrick> !info squid
[11:27] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: never heard about that
[11:27] <ubotu> squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[11:27] <Raizard> optional?
[11:27] <Raizard> so it isn't installed by default
[11:28] <jpatrick> yes
[11:28] <Raizard> i try with firefox
[11:28] <jpatrick> not everyone wants a WWW proxy cache installed on their computer
[11:28] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: right likely not installed then
[11:30] <Raizard> iceweasel
[11:30] <Raizard> i try with this
[11:30] <WaltzingAlong> k
[11:31] <dpix> hey
[11:31] <dpix> can anyone help me with compiz-fusion
[11:32] <dpix> I've got an ATI X600 (accelerated 3d) + compiz-fusion + Kubuntu 7.10, when I activate compiz-fusion (compiz --replace) my computer freezes
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> dpix: which driver/module for the video card?
[11:32] <dpix> how do I know that?
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | dpix, otherwise try with the newer fglrx module
[11:33] <dpix> yes, I did that
[11:33] <dpix> fglrk ?
[11:33] <dpix> fglrk
[11:33] <dpix> !fglrk
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx
[11:34] <Raizard> !iceweasel
[11:34] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[11:34] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | dpix
[11:35] <niko_> hi to all
[11:35] <dpix> !fglrx
[11:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <niko_> i've installe dth fglrx
[11:35] <niko_> but when i install ccsm
[11:35] <niko_> the icon image
[11:35] <niko_> they aren't
[11:36] <niko_> and the screen for turnig off, rebooting, etc show me only the terminate session option
[11:36] <niko_> wath's wrong?
[11:36] <niko_> i followed the wiki
[11:36] <dpix> me too
[11:38] <niko_> no one?
[11:38] <niko_> !ati
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <niko_> !help
[11:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> #kubuntu is not specifically for unsupported compiz in kde/kubuntu support
[11:45] <risto> any quanata users ?
[11:46] <bad-wimpie> heello
[11:46] <dpix> hi
[11:47] <risto> hi
[11:47] <risto> how i can set some code templates
[11:48] <saky> join #love
[11:48] <jpatrick> saky: with / in front might help :)
[11:49] <gabriel_> my sound suddenly stopped working after a reboot... where do i start the troubleshooting?
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | gabriel_
[11:52] <ubotu> gabriel_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:54] <dpix> how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1
[11:55] <niko_> hi to all
[11:55] <dpix> how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1
[11:55] <niko_> i'm in trouble with fstab
[11:55] <niko_> i can't create any file
[11:56] <gabriel_> thanks WaltzingAlong :)
[11:57] <kraut> moin
[12:13] <gabriel_> must i use the 64-bit version of ubuntu in order to use my 4gig of ram?
[12:14] <stdin> to use all of it without recompiling the kernel, yes
[12:14] <gabriel_> i have a 64-bit cpu... core 2 duo
[12:14] <gabriel_> hmpf..
[12:15] <gabriel_> it seems it uses only 3291MB
[12:16] <gabriel_> i tried 64 bit version but had some problems with flash.. is it not recommended to run it yet? i mean in terms of applications supporting it and general troubles..
[12:16] <gabriel_> ?
[12:16] <velho> hello people. does any one knows how can i put linux to read the folder size of each folder, like this program i use in windows? http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/ thank you in advance :D
[12:20] <Raizard> nothing at all
[12:20] <Raizard> Driveloader web conf doesn't work
[12:20] <Raizard> can anyone help me?
[12:22] <stdin> velho: "df /path/to/folder" in console or kdirstat for a GUI
[12:23] <Raizard> Can anyone help me with driverloader?
[12:24] <Raizard> Can anyone help me with driverloader?
[12:24] <Raizard> plz
[12:24] <jpatrick> !pacience
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pacience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Lynoure> Raizard: if you are a bit more specific, you are more likely to get help
[12:25] <stdin> !patience
[12:25] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:25] <Raizard> ok
[12:25] <Raizard> now i explain
[12:25] <Raizard> i installed driverloader with source
[12:25] <Raizard> all done
[12:26] <Raizard> but konqueror can't access the web configuration panel
[12:26] <Raizard> i read the wiki
[12:26] <Raizard> do what it says to do
[12:26] <Raizard> but all works well, BUT the webconfiguration panel
[12:27] <Raizard> i don't know why...
[12:29] <Lynoure> Raizard: so, what exactly happens when you try to access  http://localhost:18020/ ?
[12:30] <Raizard>  Lynoure: an error message tell me that konqueror can't connect with the specified host
[12:31] <Lynoure> How did you start webconfd?
[12:31] <Raizard>  Lynoure: if i use "ps -C webconfd" the system tell me that this process is running
[12:32] <Raizard>  Lynoure: modprobe driverloader
[12:32] <Raizard> i used this command
[12:32] <dyson2> aight
[12:32] <dyson2> so sum1 feel like helping me install compiz?
[12:33] <jpatrick> !compiz | dyson2
[12:33] <ubotu> dyson2: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:33] <dyson2> been there
[12:33] <Lynoure> Raizard: that just loads the module, it does not necessarily start the web service. Could you tell me what instructions you followed so far?
[12:34] <Raizard>  Lynoure: i do exactly this
[12:34] <Lynoure> (I normally steer clear of wifi that requires closed source drivers, so I really don't know what howto people use)
[12:34] <Raizard>  Lynoure: i MUST use this drivers
[12:35] <Raizard>  Lynoure: it's the only way i have to reach the web
[12:35] <Lynoure> Raizard: sudo dldrconfig --webconf=<IP_ADDRESS>:18020   should start it
[12:35] <Lynoure> Raizard: what's the wifi card you are using?
[12:35] <dyson2> thing is, when i `compiz --replace` i get the login screen, and when logging in it loads kdm again
[12:35] <ciperlone> ey
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure: D-Link DWL G-132
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure: in ubuntu works, in other KD Environments work
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure:in Kubuntu doesn't work
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: now i try with the command you tell me
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: and then came back
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: to let you know
[12:45] <dyson2> compiz on kubuntu
[12:45] <dyson2> be a man
[12:46] <Pilot> I need to install JRE.  Is it best to use the .bin file from sun, or use a package through Adept?  And if through Adept, the architecture dependant (75MB) or the architecture independant (14MB)
[12:48] <dyson2> Kubuntu 7.10 & compiz? followed numerous online guides. can i get some help from sum1 who knows something?
[12:49] <Lynoure> Pilot: I ended up using the one from Sun, but I have not really done comparative research, just at the point when I did it Eclipse seemed happier that way
[12:49] <Lynoure> Pilot: But of course Ubuntu packages are easier to upgrade.
[12:51] <ksal> dyson2: what's the problem?
[12:51] <Pilot> ok thansk.
[12:52] <dyson2> well i THINK xorg dies
[12:52] <dyson2> when i do a 'compiz --replace'
[12:53] <ksal> dyson2: are you sure that x crashes?
[12:54] <dyson2> well i get the login screen again
[12:54] <Pilot> So I tried to install jre through adept and it crashed... lol
[12:54] <ksal> dyson2: kde? what graphic card you have?
[12:54] <ksal> have you installed restricted drivers?
[12:55] <dyson2> i thought i was supposed to NOT install the restricted drivers
[12:55] <dyson2> the drivers i have are from the nvidia site
[12:55] <dyson2> followed some guid
[12:55] <dyson2> guide
[12:56] <dyson2> (thought the restricted drivers = nvidia-glx package, yes? i`m not using those.)
[12:56] <ksal> dyson2: you should'nt install drivers from nvidia or ati sites
[12:56] <dyson2> nvidia 7-series card
[12:56] <ksal> they can do a mess in your system
[12:56] <dyson2> so i revert back to the nvidia-glx drivers?
[12:57] <dyson2> 3d works fine though, i can play games and my openGL screensavers work
[12:57] <dyson2> how do i get the output from 'compiz --replace' into a text file ?
[12:57] <dyson2> can i run it from a different login?
[12:58] <Lynoure> dyson2: compiz --replace >> compiz.txt   should probably be enough
[12:58] <dyson2> brb
[12:59] <ksal> dyson2: kubuntu should propose you to install restricted drivers from the repo
[12:59] <ksal> i had this with my card
[12:59] <liyongning> 大家好
[12:59] <dyson2> this is even thought the compiz site tells me different
[12:59] <dyson2> http://compiz.org/NVidia
[12:59] <dyson2> ?
[12:59] <ksal> in control center, on advanced tab you have a manager for that.
[12:59] <ksal> oh, yeah? strange, i never heard that
[13:00] <ksal> dyson2: i have gf4, restricted drivers from repo and everything works well
[13:00] <ksal> however, i don't enable compiz, to slow machine for that ;)
[13:01] <dyson2> ok, reverted drivers
[13:01] <dyson2> lets have a reboot
[13:01] <dyson2> and i`ll get back to you
[13:01] <dyson2> thanks so far
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia
[13:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:01] <ksal> WaltzingAlong: too late :p
[13:02] <ksal> i hope it won't crash his sys :p
[13:08] <Pilot> So I tried to install JRE through adept and it crashed.  Now trying to reload it says another app is using it.  If I click Yes to the prompt, adept crashes again.  Aside from rebooting, is there another way to fix this?  ps aux  doesnt seem to show any processes
[13:15] <dysonX> http://pastebin.com/d4c81e076
[13:33] <chillmann> hi there
[13:33] <chillmann> I'
[13:34] <ciperlone> yey
[13:34] <chillmann> I've got a problem with my Alt-Tab and Alt-F5 behaviour in KDE. Alt+Something seems to work only on the desktop but not when an application has the focus. any idea?
[13:35] <chillmann> actually this is also true for alt-F4 etc..
[13:36] <ciperlone> fif you check on the kde shortcuts?
[13:36] <chillmann> xev shows Alt key is definetely working and I can also assign Alt-Tab to "cycle through windows" in KDE system settings. however, as soon as an application has the focus, it's not working
[13:36] <chillmann> ciperlone: yep, those are set up correctly
[13:36] <Pilot> Can anyone help me figure out why Firefox doesnt want to use my installed jre6?  Installed both via adept and via Sun's .bin download.
[13:36] <ciperlone> are you using compiz ou beryl?
[13:37] <ciperlone> ore none of them?
[13:37] <chillmann> ciperlone: actually I think I'm using Kwin. I just upgraded to gutsy.
[13:37] <ciperlone> hmm
[13:37] <chillmann> ciperlone: yes, KWin
[13:37] <ciperlone> because if you are using compiz, it takes control of default kde shortcuts
[13:38] <ciperlone> i'm sorry, i cannot help you
[13:38] <ciperlone> unless you expecify the problem
[13:38] <ciperlone> but i cannot promisse anything
[13:38] <chillmann> ciperlone: I just double-checked. Definitely no compiz. It's not even installed
[13:39] <chillmann> it's quite funny that it's only not working from the apps
[13:39] <chillmann> but it's working on the desktop
[13:40] <ciperlone> WHICH apps?
[13:40] <chillmann> all
[13:40] <chillmann> like when an application window has the focus, alt-f5 does nothing
[13:40] <ciperlone> r u using kde?
[13:40] <chillmann> yes
[13:41] <chillmann> when on a desktop without any windows, alt-f5 shoes me a nice list of all windows in my KDE environment sorted by desktop
[13:41] <chillmann> as it should be...
[13:41] <ciperlone> did you double check everything in the kde shortcut area?
[13:41] <chillmann> yep
[13:42] <chillmann> the shortcuts are fine in general
[13:42] <chillmann> the problem is that the system wide shortcuts are ignored in application windows
[13:42] <chillmann> they only work when the desktop has the focus
[13:42] <ciperlone> that's strange...
[13:42] <Lynoure> chillmann: have you always had that problem, or did it start after one change or another?
[13:42] <chillmann> Lynoure: it started after my upgrade to gutsy
[13:43] <ciperlone> mayke an sudo aptitude update will solve the problem
[13:43] <chillmann> ciperlone: all packages are up to date
[13:44] <ciperlone> well, i'm sorry but i cannot help. if i was a dev I will ask you to type some commands in the terminal, but since i'm not...
[13:45] <chillmann> ciperlone: thanks anyway
[13:46] <ciperlone> you're welcome :)
[13:46] <Norgur> hey, i got a problem with my german Microsoft keyboard
[13:47] <Norgur> on this, the keys @ and / do not work with Kubuntu
[13:47] <Norgur> what is going wrong there?
[13:47] <llutz> Norgur: check kbd-layout in 7etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:48] <Norgur> what shall i look for?
[13:49] <llutz> Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
[13:49] <llutz> Norgur: then "Layout" and "Variant"
[13:50] <somekool> hello, my french-canadian keybaord works in X, but not in KDE ??? Why would that be ???
[13:50] <somekool> I do setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout ca -variant fr and it works in any WM but KDE .... I cannot believe this ...
[13:50] <Lynoure> somekool: do you have it similarly set up in the kde settings?
[13:51] <somekool> yes
[13:51] <somekool> I can do some accent but not all
[13:51] <somekool> its like incomplete french keybaord
[13:51] <somekool> wait I just discovered something
[13:52] <somekool> I am in E17 at the moment, and the french keybaord works NICE in xterm but not in Konversation
[14:00] <jembouge> somekool, are there so many differences between your canadian-french keyboard and my french-french one?
[14:00] <jembouge> cause mine works just perfectly
[14:02] <Norgur> in my xorg.conf there is the line   Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch" at the keyboard section
[14:02] <Norgur> what does it say?
[14:21] <yaccin> how is it possible, that wlan works with ubuntu, but not with kubuntu?
[14:21] <yaccin> -_-
[14:24] <somekool> jembouge: many yes ;)
[14:24] <yaccin> :(
[14:24] <Kachna> hey guys, anyone can play .rm files in mplayer?
[14:25] <spawn57> man I wish compiz wouldn't crash a few times every bloody day
[14:25] <somekool> Norgur: i dont have the XkbOptions
[14:25] <WaltzingAlong> spawn57: tis not crashing at all here (thanks kwin)
[14:26] <spawn57> yeah i'm using kwin atm ..I like compiz a lot though :(
[14:26]  * somekool restarting X
[14:27] <yaccin> how can i enable wlan in kubuntu, when it just works in ubuntu???
[14:29] <jxxt> kachna, i cant>>
[14:30] <Kachna> pretty bad :-( i can play sound only..using smplayer..cna play rm files in realplay, but can't get my subtitles working there :-
[14:30] <Kachna> (
[14:31] <xcieja> jestpolak
[14:32] <xcieja> ?
[14:32] <yaccin_> anyone?
[14:32] <yaccin_> wlan works now, but no wpa
[14:32] <yaccin_> (which worked in ubuntu/gnome just fine)
[14:33] <anto> Can somone help me fix my gtk widgets they are so dam ugly -> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/files/testgtk.png
[14:33] <ctonio> hola buenas
[14:34] <Kachna> k,so,anyone knows how to convert .rm to .avi? :P mpeg or so
[14:34] <JackWinter> what is the best way of filesharing between 2 kubuntu computers ?  nfs?
[14:34] <JackWinter> or maybe smb?
[14:35] <anto> http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder
[14:35] <anto> Kachna: http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder
[14:35] <Kachna> anto: cool,thx a lot ;)
[14:36] <anto> Kachna: no problems it just took me 2 second on google with the correct keywords :P
[14:36] <Kachna> damn thought I'm a good googler :P
[14:37] <iceEra> how do i add a network printer?
[14:37] <anto> Kachna: how to search google is not to write a sentence but the key words in it
[14:37] <Kachna> i know :-)
[14:37] <anto> linux convert rm to avi
[14:38] <anto> is what i used
[14:38] <Kachna> similar here...dunno exactly :P
[14:38] <anto> :P
[14:38] <anto> Anyone here that can help me with my gtk problem?
[14:39] <Kachna> however, i kinda work in company that aims for search engines optimisation,so i should learn that all :P
[14:39] <anto> haha okej :P
[14:41] <asktoby_> I note that gspca-source, the driver for my webcam, is in the repositories.
[14:41] <asktoby_> If I install it from there, how would I go about building it?
[14:41] <asktoby_> What is the benefit over just downloading the tarball from the dev's website?
[14:43] <yaccin_> how can i use wpa in kubuntu/kde when it worked un ubuntu/gnome?
[14:44] <emilsedgh> asktoby_: you should compile it of you het the source.to compile it you need hundreds of -devel packages that have nothing for you
[14:45] <emilsedgh> s/het/get
[14:57] <somekool> I am trying to install the kde4rc1 packages on kubuntu but I am getting some error, few packages are missing or something...
[15:01] <zarath> After resizing an NTFS partition I get the following error: 'current ntfs volume size is bigger than the device size'. It cannot be mounted any more. It won't boot into WinXP either (but my Linux partition is fine). What tools can I use to try to fix the errors or recover some data?
[15:05] <Hizzle> Do I need to format c: myself if I am to switch vista with kubuntu or is there a way I can do that with the cd?
[15:05] <Hizzle> c: = harddrive
[15:06] <Radi01> Hizzle: if all you are installing is ubuntu/chose full partition on installation.
[15:06] <asktoby_> emilsedgh: I understand that I will need to compile it - I guess my question is what is the benefit of installing source via apt rather than downloading a tarball?
[15:07] <Hizzle> hmm dont remember seeing that option on bootup
[15:07] <Radi01> Will it be the only o/s on the drive?
[15:07] <Hizzle> ya
[15:08] <Radi01> Then when you get to partition click (manual/full) it will do the whole drive automatically/easy as pie.
[15:09] <Hizzle> now the install update cd is that a cd I have to provide or is that something I can get offline? Just curious
[15:10] <Radi01> do the install od o/s first the rest can be done online.
[15:10] <Radi01> of
[15:11] <jembouge> hi there, I installed kubuntu 7.10 and kdm is displaying this : http://jujufouq.free.fr/fichiers/kdm.jpg
[15:11] <jembouge> anyone can help?
[15:11] <Radi01> Just make sure your internet is functional when you install the o/s so it can read mirror info and see what you are doing /so it can make proper adjustments.
[15:12] <pierreth> What are you using to import CDs?
[15:12] <Hizzle> lol ya thats a good thing to do, glad I forgot
[15:15] <Hamra> jembouge: im sorry i cant be of much help, but this used to happen with me when i boot kubuntu on my boss' PC, never knew hot to solve it though!
[15:15] <Hamra> how*
[15:16] <pechan> hey
[15:16] <pechan> ayuda
[15:16] <pechan> alguien me ayude
[15:16] <Xplicit> are there any programs that can remote desktop connect to a vista machine (i mean the default vista service not installing vnc or another 3rd party)
[15:16] <pechan> porfavoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor
[15:16] <Xplicit> !es
[15:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:16] <Radi01> lol
[15:19] <didoman> quelqu'un peut me dire comment installer le comilateur gcc je l'ai telechargé avec l'adept mais rien a faire
[15:19] <jembouge> Hamra: ya kdm (when working) is really cool, and that's great to advertise Linux to friends
[15:20] <jembouge> didoman: t'as juste téléchargé sans lui demander d'installer?
[15:20] <didoman> mais normalement il installe automatiquement
[15:21] <jembouge> Hamra: did you find any ressource on the internet concerning that matter? cause I find nothing nowhere
[15:21] <jembouge> didoman: bah oui, d'où mon étonnement.
[15:21] <jembouge> Perso, je n'utilise pas adept
[15:21] <jembouge> essaye par ligne de commande
[15:22] <jembouge> apt-get install ...
[15:22] <jembouge> ou sinon (ce que j'utilise souvent) c'est synaptic
[15:22] <didoman> ok merci jembouge
[15:22] <jembouge> pas de koi
[15:23] <smooker> anyone know where is G++ after i install it ?
[15:24] <smooker> or how to start it
[15:24] <smooker> ?
[15:24] <somekool> type g++
[15:24] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:24] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:25] <jembouge> smooker: if you use synaptic, you can get that kind of info by selecting the package, right-click and properties
[15:28] <yuanjin> Hello
[15:29] <yuanjin> Anyone here?
[15:30] <Radi01> Whats up.
[15:31] <yuanjin> I meet a problem when I installed a software, which called Cn3D.
[15:31] <Hamra> jembouge: i didnt even search, well, kdm is really cool, and it works fine on all of the PCs i've encountered so far, it's only my Boss' one, i'm not sure about this, but i think it's the LCD, since my PC has the same exact hardware except the monitor!
[15:33] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:33] <yuanjin> It always show me ¨core dumped¨ when I try to run the program
[15:33] <smooker> stil i cant start G++
[15:33] <smooker> i used adept to install
[15:33] <yaccin> smooker: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:35] <yuanjin> Could anyone give me some advice?
[15:35] <smooker> then what ?
[15:35] <yaccin> smooker: to run g++ just use the command gcc
[15:36] <smooker> gcc: no input files
[15:37] <yaccin> man gcc
[15:37] <yaccin> what are you trying to do?
[15:37] <Radi01> yuanjin: tru #ubuntu
[15:37] <jembouge> Hamra: I used to use debian with KDE and KDM, also tried Mandriva (and Mandrake before) and other distros, and I never had this problem before
[15:37] <Radi01> try
[15:38] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: I'm wondering whether this isn't because of the X11 server...
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: the background picture is set to scale to fit the screen
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: (this is what I think I found in a file)
[15:38] <smooker> k
[15:39] <smooker> but Gcc doesnt want to start
[15:39] <niko_> hi to all
[15:39] <jembouge> Hamra: Everywhere I can read, the text size is properly defined and set to something small.
[15:39] <niko_> i need help to correctly install compiz
[15:39] <niko_> fusion
[15:39] <yaccin> smooker: what are you trying to do?
[15:40] <jembouge> Hamra: thanks for your help, I'll go on digging
[15:40] <Hamra> jembouge: sorry for not being so helpful
[15:40] <smooker> to start the compiler GCC
[15:41] <yaccin> smooker: what do you want to compile?
[15:41] <Radi01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358193
[15:41] <Radi01> G++
[15:42] <jembouge> Hamra: no problem, I'm not very helpful either you know :p  Good to try. Anyway, atm I just bypass KDM with automatic logon.
[15:42] <jhutchins> !build | smooker
[15:42] <ubotu> smooker: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:42] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:42] <yaccin> smooker: gcc youryourcode.cpp
[15:42] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu since I tried installing KDE4 .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:42] <jhutchins> somekool: No need to repeat yourself.  KDE4 is not a stable release.
[15:43] <jembouge> Hamra: I just need KDM to show off to my friends who are still running non-open-source software.
[15:43] <niko_> no one can help me?
[15:43] <Radi01> about what.
[15:43] <niko_> compiz fusion
[15:43] <jembouge> niko_ : installing the packages is quite easy, but I didn't find where to go to activate it... sorry
[15:43] <Radi01> not work or what
[15:44] <jembouge> I'd be interested in it btw if someone could tell
[15:44] <Radi01> compriz config from synapt
[15:44] <jhutchins> niko_: #compiz
[15:46] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know why audiocd:/ in konqueror doesn't seem to have a flac folder anymore in gutsy?
[15:46] <somekool> jhutchins: that's right. but now I cannot install anything anymore. its like apt-get is broken...
[15:47] <jhutchins> !aptfix | somekool
[15:47] <ubotu> somekool: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:47] <niko_> i'm back
[15:47] <niko_> compiz needs Xgl?
[15:48] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:48] <smooker> is there any other good program like compiz ?
[15:48] <yaccin> smooker: yes, you can also use vista or leopard
[15:49] <Radi01> leopard is macs version of vista...not good.
[15:49] <jembouge> hey yaccin you're not talking linux software
[15:49] <smooker> vista and leopard are os's i think
[15:49] <jembouge> indeed
[15:49] <yaccin> jembouge: :P
[15:49] <jembouge> there's something called "mesa" or so
[15:49] <niko_> some one can help me with compiz fusion?
[15:49] <jembouge> :p
[15:49] <niko_> i'm on kubuntu
[15:49] <niko_> 7.1
[15:49] <yuanjin> me too
[15:50] <tarin> does anyone else have trouble starting konversation in gutsy?
[15:50] <jembouge> no
[15:50] <yaccin> niko_: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-* compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:50] <jembouge> tarin: never got any pb with Konversation
[15:50] <yuanjin> either
[15:50] <Blissex> smooker: Beryl and Matisse and Looking Glass and a few others.
[15:50] <yaccin> tarin: no
[15:50] <niko_> i've done
[15:50] <niko_> before reformatting all
[15:50] <yaccin> i only have problems with WPA, which worked fine when i used gnome o.O
[15:50] <yuanjin> I had tried that before
[15:51] <smooker> where do i get Beryl ?
[15:51] <tarin> hmmmm
[15:51] <jembouge> yaccin: I did that too, but I can't find the way to actually activate it
[15:51] <Radi01> beryl is not supported its now compriz
[15:51] <[ifr0g]> Hi, Whats the reason be hide the windows boot phenomena for wireless card power ups ?
[15:51] <yaccin> alt + F2 > "compiz --replace"
[15:51] <somekool> jhutchins: did not work
[15:51] <Blissex> smooker: Google it -- but it is getting merged with Compiz actually.
[15:51] <niko_> but i know
[15:51] <smooker> so i dont have to uninstal compiz ?
[15:52] <yaccin> smooker: compiz + beryl = compiz fusion
[15:52] <yaccin> they merged
[15:52] <yaccin> if you have compiz then you have compiz fusion
[15:52] <niko_> yaccin
[15:53] <smooker> ive just installed fustion plugins from apt
[15:53] <Hamra> hi, in display manager, when i press the test button, if everything went ok, what am i supposed to see? what happens? coz im not sure if things are right with me.
[15:55] <sparr_> many hard drives used to store particular types of files.  one for music, one for movies, etc.  I want to access their contents (nice directory hierarchies) as if they were subdirectories of one location.  I tried symlinks, but they fail when relative paths go above the symlinked structure.  Is there any better way short of actually mounting the driives where I want to access them?
[15:56] <jhutchins> sparr_: Why wouldn't you do  exactly that?
[15:57] <sparr_> jhutchins: because mounting things at random points in the filesystem seems like bad form, especially when they are already mounted elsewhere.  also because it would require moving things to the top level of the drives, instead of having the same base hierarchy on some of them
[15:58] <jhutchins> Ok, so you need to effectively mount a subdirectory of the drive in a filesystem.
[15:58] <jhutchins> sparr_: Read up on the docs for the mount command, this can be done.
[15:58] <sparr_> mount --bind ?
[15:59] <sparr_> also, it will pollute my mtab
[16:00] <flake> what is that bar at the bottom of the pic called, like from what package?  http://linuxappfinder.com/screenshot_viewer/all/1875_avast_update
[16:00] <Hamra> now that you mentioned mounting, how can i mount a CD image?
[16:00] <sparr_> Hamra: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso
[16:00] <sparr_> after mkdir /media/iso
[16:00] <sparr_> and with sudo  :)
[16:03] <niko_> i'm in trouble with fstab
[16:03] <niko_> it doesn't male me write
[16:03] <niko_> make
[16:04] <niko_> UUID=E498-244C  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:04] <Hamra> thnx  sparr_
[16:04] <niko_> is correct?
[16:05] <sparr_> that UUID seems short
[16:06] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[16:06] <maduser> what kind of wirells card do you have?
[16:07] <smooker> guys how do u get working the compizfusion Animations ?
[16:07] <Radi01> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[16:07] <yaccin> maduser: an usb stick
[16:07] <yaccin> Radi01: i tried that
[16:07] <maduser> never mind
[16:07] <yaccin> in gnome its just plug and play and it works with wpa
[16:07] <maduser> i only know how to fix broadcom
[16:08] <yaccin> on kde i plug it in and it only works without encryption
[16:08] <maduser> you might have to google it
[16:08] <Radi01> ya
[16:10] <Radi01> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[16:10] <Radi01> encryption in kde
[16:12] <Lynoure> Radi01: knetwork-manager does those too...
[16:13] <Radi01> I didn't know/Just googling with common sense with app application.
[16:13] <yaccin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu << doesnt work
[16:14] <Radi01> Google your (problem).
[16:14] <yaccin> i did
[16:14] <yaccin> thats the best thing i found
[16:14] <maduser> theres better
[16:15] <Radi01> butter?
[16:15] <Lynoure> yaccin: Tell me what happens instead of working?
[16:16] <yaccin> Lynoure: it works but only without encryption
[16:16] <yaccin> when i switch to gnome encryption (WPA) works
[16:16] <Lynoure> yaccin: you still see the encrypted wifis?
[16:16] <yaccin> yes
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys... what is a good mail notifier daemon for kde?.. I'm used to cgmail on gnome if this will work fine in kde then great otherwise let me know of anything that comes highly recommended..
[16:16] <Lynoure> But cannot connect to them?
[16:16] <yaccin> and i have to enter the password
[16:16] <yaccin> and then it stops at ~28%
[16:17] <Paddy_EIRE> hey Lynoure
[16:17] <Radi01> I never used wireless/but isn't there simple on and off settings?
[16:17] <Lynoure> yaccin: tried restarting knetworkmanager already?
[16:17] <yaccin> Lynoure: i also tried rebooting
[16:18] <stdin> Paddy_EIRE: something like "kcheckgmail - KDE systray application to check GMail accounts" ?
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> thanks man
[16:18] <Lynoure> yaccin: interfaces commented out from /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:19] <Radi01> good point
[16:20] <yaccin> Lynoure: i am currently online using wlan...
[16:20] <yaccin> but its not encrypted
[16:20] <yaccin> i can only use WPA when im in gnome
[16:20] <Lynoure> yaccin: different wlan, then?
[16:21] <yaccin> Lynoure: no :)
[16:21] <yaccin> i have a fonero router
[16:21] <Radi01> log time
[16:21] <yaccin> it has 2 channels
[16:21] <yaccin> 1 with WPA and a Free, unencrypted one
[16:21] <yaccin> both work in gnome
[16:21] <yaccin> but when i switch to kde the WPA channel doesnt work
[16:21] <Radi01> How goes it Hizzle.
[16:22] <Hizzle> got it up and running just figuring stuff out
[16:22] <Radi01> nice
[16:22] <Hizzle> chatting off konversation was trying to download xchat but dont understand the whole rpm thing
[16:22] <Hizzle> .rpm*
[16:23] <remotechief_311> How can I create a link to trash?
[16:23] <Lynoure> yaccin: I can tell you that wifi wpa works for me in kubuntu under knetwork-manager... but I think it took commenting out those interfaces
[16:23] <yaccin> Hizzle: rpm?
[16:23] <yaccin> Lynoure: but why do the then work in gnome?
[16:23] <yaccin> and where do i have to comment it out?
[16:24] <yaccin> and... well am i not currently using the interface=
[16:24] <Hizzle> I clicked download xchat for fedora because it was only linux download there and has a bunch of .rpm files there
[16:24] <yaccin> ?