[04:11] <notech> why when i am in console and type screen it auto loads kde?? then i choose console login and it loads kde every 30-40 seconds
[04:12] <notech> thats annoyng,am i missing something
[04:12] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: start by right-clicking on your desktop, choose configure desktop and then Display
[04:12] <bobbyflinch> ya i am restarting guys! :D
[04:12] <bobbyflinch> lol never know
[04:12] <bobbyflinch> i regually a suzzy type of guy
[04:13] <bobbyflinch> she was my girl friend hehe
[04:13] <bobbyflinch> suse linux i used before
[04:13] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: well try what I just told you to change your resolution
[04:14] <bobbyflinch> ok wait its loading on a 500mhz computer so slow
[04:14] <bobbyflinch> hold up
[04:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> notech: i don't understand what your question is
[04:14] <bl3ssing> kkathman, I can't find any .kde file ......
[04:14] <bl3ssing> where should I ...?
[04:14] <Gambix> quel kde ?
[04:14] <kkathman> bl3ssing: its a DOT kde   ie.e   /home/.kde/Autostart
[04:14] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:15] <bl3ssing> that's right kkathman  ... no .kde
[04:15] <bl3ssing> :-(
[04:15] <notech> :) ok, i boot my laptop and when i am in kde login i choose console login for console. then i tryed screen command to run some programs
[04:15] <notech> but when i type it,it loads kde again!
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: it's ~/.KDE
[04:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> lowercase
[04:15] <notech> and this every 30-40 secs
[04:15] <kkathman> bl3ssing: uhm there has to be, you must not be enabling the system file look
[04:16] <bl3ssing> bobbyflinch ... you can use your Alt+F1 keys combinations, than go in System Seetings, than ... Desktop;
[04:16] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser: on my system its lowercase .kde
[04:16] <bobbyflinch> ok its loaded almost guys!
[04:16] <bl3ssing> bobbyflinch, there you can do whatever you want with you Desktop Resolution. :-))
[04:16] <notech> (every time i choose Console login) to return to console,i don't know any other way to login in console
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: yeh, autospelling thing *debates turning it off totaly*
[04:16] <MenZa`> hmm
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> i keep forgetting it
[04:17] <bl3ssing> kkathman, ... symlink ....
[04:17] <kkathman> bl3ssing: everyone that runs KDE/kubuntu must have that directory unless you deleted it
[04:17] <MenZa`> I have Ubuntu installed, both with KDE and GNOME... Text seems quite large on the KDE interface - can I do anything about that? I am using 1600x1200.
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> even then you have it ;)
[04:17] <kkathman> bl3ssing: yes symbolic link
[04:17] <bl3ssing> lol ... I am not deleting anything ... unless I know for sure what I'm doing ..
[04:17] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> bl3ssing: `rm -i` is your friend :)
[04:17] <bl3ssing> is the symlink a file for editing?
[04:17] <bl3ssing> lol about rm -i ... :-)
[04:17] <bl3ssing> LOL
[04:18] <bl3ssing> remove ... -i?
[04:18] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:18] <bl3ssing> =))
[04:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> -i is 'question every file'
[04:18] <kkathman> bl3ssing: just find where your xmms is (probably in /usr/bin) and the create a symbolic link using ln -s
[04:18] <notech> how could i access to console? i mean not konsole
[04:18] <kkathman> bl3ssing: focus dude..calm down :)
[04:18] <bl3ssing> and ... than ... kkathman ?
[04:18] <Kimppa> Hi. Does anyone know a good alternative for gThumb Image Viewer? It keeps crashing for me all the time, especially when viewing images as large as 2,3 MB
[04:18] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:19] <kkathman> bl3ssing: I just told you
[04:19] <sharket> can i read the rss's with mozilla-firefox ?
[04:19] <bl3ssing> Kimppa, , renounce on using the gThumb Image Viewer ... Use another one.
[04:19] <bobbyflinch> Alright now how do i get to be a adminstrator on network settings!?
[04:19] <bl3ssing> ok kkathman; let's start with the beginning.
[04:19] <kkathman> bl3ssing: ln -s <your source location> < target>
[04:20] <bl3ssing> kkathman, I have my xmms in the directory /usr/bin ...
[04:20] <bl3ssing> here I have to create a new text file ...?
[04:20] <bl3ssing> and writting in it what?
[04:20] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> bl3ssing: `ln -s /usr/bin/xmms ~/.k de/autostart`
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> er. no space
[04:20] <kkathman> bl3ssing: ok  good...then navigate to your home directory (i.e. /home/bl3ssing) or whatever
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> in KDE
[04:21] <bobbyflinch> I WANT TO BE A ADMINSTRATOR FOR NETWORK SETTINGS HA! SAYS CLICK THE "ADMINISTRATOR MODE" BUTTON ETC ......WHERE IS THAT!?
[04:21] <kkathman> bl3ssing: better to do this in a konsole..and just type cd
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> bobbyflinch: you tell me
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> and don't yell
[04:22] <bobbyflinch> not sure
[04:22] <bobbyflinch> :D lol you tell me
[04:22] <Kimppa> bl3ssing: umm.. my question was if someone know another software I could use instead of gThumb o_O
[04:22] <kkathman> bl3ssing: please focus man...you cant be doing like 3 things at once
[04:23] <bobbyflinch> i can't find this adminstartor thing !!
[04:24] <bl3ssing> Kimppa, ...
[04:24] <bl3ssing> I'll answer to you in a sec
[04:24] <notech> how to access a 'pure' console? :)
[04:24] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:24] <bl3ssing> Alt+F2 ... and type Konsole
[04:24] <bl3ssing> notech,
[04:24] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:24] <thoreauputic> notech:  ctrl-alt-F1 (or F2,3,4)
[04:24] <kkathman> bl3ssing: thats not a true console
[04:24] <bl3ssing> that's a real pure Console
[04:24] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:24] <kkathman> no
[04:25] <bl3ssing> why not kkathman ?
[04:25] <kkathman> bl3ssing: because its not
[04:25] <bl3ssing> shall I go out of kde and than ...?
[04:25] <bl3ssing> lol kkathman  ...
[04:25] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: it's a terminal emulator
[04:25] <kkathman> right
[04:25] <kkathman> hey thoreauputic :)
[04:25] <thoreauputic> kkathman: :)
[04:25] <kkathman> ltns my friend :)
[04:26] <kkathman> greetings _hussam :)
[04:26] <bobbyflinch> haha guys where is the adminstrator option!? or button!!
[04:26] <thoreauputic> kkathman: real life keeps getting inthe way of IRC ;-)
[04:26] <bobbyflinch> hussam will know!
[04:26] <bobbyflinch> lol
[04:26] <kkathman> thoreauputic: shame how that seems to happen alot :)
[04:26] <doctormo> how do you install apache2 on Kubuntu
[04:26] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: life?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> kkathman: people just don't understand that real life is an illusion ;)
[04:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> doctormo: using adept
[04:27] <hussam> kkathman: hey :)
[04:27] <Tm_T> thoreauputic: what does word "life" means?
[04:27] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: bit of a contradiction 8)
[04:27] <mornfall> apokryphos: not at all
[04:27] <bobbyflinch> hey :D help me out where is the admintrator button in network settings!!!
[04:27] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: it's a paradox :)
[04:28] <apokryphos> you probably mean "what they think to be real"
[04:28] <kkathman> thoreauputic: I agree..and understand the conundrum :)
[04:28] <kkathman> apokryphos:  :)
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: can you help bobbyflinch?
[04:28] <apokryphos> though I of course still disagree :P, or think it a useless question
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: if he can't see a button, not sure how to help :)
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> i see :)
[04:29] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: try starting kcontrol with " kdesu kcontrol "
[04:29] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser: I had to read your last sentence a few times to make that make sense :)
[04:29] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: there's a fix for admin mode problem in breezy-updates
[04:29] <alerim> I have a problem with screenlock, my password is always refused when I try to unlock the screen. Any idea?
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:31] <bobbyflinch> where is kdesu kcontrol!?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: you type that in konsole :)
[04:31] <bobbyflinch> i see system settings :D
[04:31] <bobbyflinch> ohh wow
[04:31] <bobbyflinch> ok
[04:32] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: it should ask for your password
[04:32] <Kaiser_Sleeps> night kkathman, apokryphos, thoreauputic, others
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Kaiser_Sleeps: 'night :)
[04:32] <apokryphos> 'night
[04:32] <Kaiser_Sleeps> later mates. I'll see you round
[04:32] <bobbyflinch> in the shell i guess right?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: yes
[04:33] <bobbyflinch> no pasword pitch black haha
[04:33] <bobbyflinch> lol scarying me ohh no!
[04:33] <alessandro> lol
[04:33] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: erm - are you using konsole?
[04:33] <bobbyflinch> i am using terminal program konsole
[04:34] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: at the prompt just type    kdesu kcontrol
[04:34] <notech> alt+ctrl+f1 was good for pure console! but how to return in kde then? :)
[04:34] <bobbyflinch> ohh wow!!!
[04:34] <bobbyflinch> you did something
[04:34] <thoreauputic> notech: alt-F7
[04:35] <notech> thanx :)
[04:35] <bobbyflinch> command not found
[04:35] <bobbyflinch> ajjj
[04:35] <bobbyflinch> ahhh*
[04:35] <thoreauputic> notech: X runs on F7 by default
[04:35] <thoreauputic> bobbyflinch: that seems unlikely - typo?
[04:36] <notech> another question: alt+ctrl+f1 if i am in kde,but how do i boot my computer without kde by default?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> notech: you can comment out "/usr/bin/kdm" in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:36] <bobbyflinch> maybe i need to reinstall it with more options this kubuntu
[04:37] <thoreauputic> notech: then it will boot to a prompt
[04:37] <notech> will try
[04:37] <thoreauputic> notech: but why?
[04:38] <notech> i am trying to use more console than kde,and other gui
[04:38] <bobbyflinch> good for you
[04:38] <thoreauputic> notech: if you do that you will start kde by typing  startx `which startkde`  ( those are backticks, not quotes)
[04:39] <notech> thanx
[04:39] <thoreauputic> or  startx /usr/bin/startkde    (same thing)
[04:40] <alex__> hi
[04:40] <notech> i see if i go to console by ctrl+alt+f1 then type startkde it will start but the fonts are larger than usual when it boots from default? is this normal?
[04:40] <alex__> anyone knwon a editor of pdf ?
[04:40] <bobbyflinch> hey you guys know how do i install more packages from this kubuntu, using the cd rom source?
[04:40] <thoreauputic> notech: hmm - i don't know, frankly
[04:41] <bobbyflinch> ohh i got it
[04:41] <bobbyflinch> adept
[04:41] <bobbyflinch> hehe nice
[04:41] <jjesse> bobbyflinch: yes through adept
[04:41] <jjesse> bobbyflinch: as long as your sources.list still contains the cdrom in it
[04:41] <alex__> which is an opensource  editor of pdf ?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> alex__: editing pdf is not really supported as such - although you can work around it by converting pdf to another format
[04:43] <thoreauputic> e.g. pdf2ps ( there's a pdf2html as well I think, but not installed by default)
[04:44] <alex__> so thoreauputic which program can convert pdt to latex text or other formats that keeps math formulas?
[04:44] <bobbyflinch> ya still i am in system control and click on network settings and dont see adminstartor
[04:44] <bobbyflinch> :(
[04:44] <notech> thoreauptic: in my deafult display manager i have only one line:
[04:44] <thoreauputic> alex__: that I don't know
[04:45] <thoreauputic> notech: yes that's normal
[04:45] <notech> what is that for?
[04:45] <notech> booting kde?
[04:45] <thoreauputic> notech: it probably says /usr/bin/kdm
[04:45] <notech> yes
[04:45] <thoreauputic> kdm is the login screen
[04:45] <thoreauputic> k display manager
[04:46] <notech> so i have to remove the line?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> just put a # in front of it
[04:46] <notech> ok
[04:46] <thoreauputic> then you can uncomment it later if you change your mind :)
[04:46] <notech> like to enable the repositories..
[04:46] <thoreauputic> ?
[04:47] <notech> for apt-get..
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Oh you mean the commenting - yes it's the standard way
[04:47] <notech> :)
[04:47] <thoreauputic> usually lines beginning with # are ignored
[04:47] <notech> ok,now when i reboot i will have console?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> should have, yes
[04:47] <notech> now try..thanx see u
[04:48] <kkathman> thoreauputic: what file is it that has that /usr/bin/kdm  just curious :)
[04:48] <bl3ssing> what happend to me? :-) I've pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 and ... was out of the KDE Desktop; how can I get inside of it back?
[04:48] <notech> f7!
[04:48] <notech> :)))
[04:48] <thoreauputic> kkathman:  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:48] <kkathman> bl3ssing: ctrl-alt F7
[04:48] <kkathman> thanx thoreauputic
[04:48] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing:  press alt-F7
[04:48] <bobbyflinch> but ya i see the eth0 dhcp protocol state is disabled and yai want to enable it....
[04:48] <bl3ssing> thanks kkathman ...
[04:48] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:48] <doctormo> sdept does not work (or at least the guis on top of it)
[04:48] <doctormo> *adept
[04:49] <bl3ssing> DONE!
[04:49] <bobbyflinch> :D someone help me
[04:49] <thoreauputic> kkathman: strictly speaking from a tty you don't need the ctrl ( alt-F7 is enough)  :)
[04:49] <bobbyflinch> being a adminstator is harder than i ever thought
[04:49] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: you are in KDE yes?
[04:49] <bobbyflinch> yes
[04:49] <bobbyflinch> kkathman- yes
[04:49] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: can you click on the Administrator mode on that screen?
[04:50] <bl3ssing> as about the autostart program whenever I'm starting my Computer ... it is not working ... I've typed this line: "ln-s /usr/bing/xmms ~/.kde/autostart" from the konsole, and nothing ... appearead when I restarted my computer. Why?
[04:50] <bobbyflinch> -kathman i dont see it
[04:50] <kkathman> bl3ssing: thats wrong
[04:50] <doctormo> I do a search for apache but only find apache 1.3 (not apache2
[04:50] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  you dont have an admin button?
[04:50] <bobbyflinch> no :(
[04:51] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: it's Autostart - and it's a directory not a file
[04:51] <bobbyflinch> should i log out?
[04:51] <kkathman> bl3ssing: type this instead:  ln -s /usr/bin/xmms ~/.kde/Autostart/xmms
[04:51] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: your commands need to be in a file in that dir
[04:51] <doctormo> what is apache2 called in adept?
[04:51] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: how are you logged in?
[04:51] <thoreauputic> doctormo: apache2 I believe :)
[04:51] <bobbyflinch> kde
[04:51] <bobbyflinch> :)
[04:51] <thoreauputic> !info apache2
[04:51] <ubotu> apache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[04:51] <bl3ssing> what kind of file ... thoreauputic ?
[04:52] <kkathman> bl3ssing: just type that command dude
[04:52] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: *sigh* try what kkathman suggested
[04:52] <bl3ssing> no kkathman; I'd like to know about what kind of file I can create to ...
[04:52] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:52] <jjesse> doctormo: did you do a search in adept for apache?
[04:52] <kkathman> bl3ssing: and delete anything that you did before
[04:52] <bl3ssing> kkathman, how can I delete ... what I've done before?
[04:52] <bl3ssing> where should I go to ...?
[04:52] <bl3ssing> :-(
[04:53] <thoreauputic> bl3ssing: a symlink is a file too - that's what kkathman was telling you with that command
[04:53] <kkathman> bl3ssing: go to ~/.kde/Autostart   then do an ls -al and see whats there
[04:53] <bl3ssing> k kkathman, one sec. pls.
[04:53] <thoreauputic> kkathman: he used a lower case "a" so ...
[04:53] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  sorry, are you logged in under your regular user name?
[04:54] <kkathman> thoreauputic: ahhh...good catch
[04:54] <bl3ssing> you're right thore
[04:54] <bl3ssing> thoreauputic,
[04:54] <bl3ssing> :-)
[04:54] <bl3ssing> thanks man/girl. :-)
[04:54] <kkathman> thoreauputic: it didnt look like he had anything on the end either
[04:54] <bobbyflinch> yes i am in my regualr name
[04:55] <bobbyflinch> i need root acess
[04:55] <bl3ssing> how can I go to find the Autostart file? kkathman ?
[04:55] <bobbyflinch> :D
[04:55] <thoreauputic> see you all :0
[04:55] <bobbyflinch> ok bye thoreaauptic
[04:55] <kkathman> bl3ssing: its a directory in ~/.kde
[04:55] <bobbyflinch> big nackname i say
[04:55] <bl3ssing> how can I get there .... kkathman ? sorry but I'm out of this ...
[04:55] <bl3ssing> :-(
[04:55] <doctormo> needed an update to repository... odd
[04:56] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok now tell me how you are accessing the network settings?
[04:56] <bobbyflinch> but ya i need root acess
[04:56] <bobbyflinch> i click the k and system settings
[04:56] <kkathman> bl3ssing: cd ~/.kde
[04:56] <bobbyflinch> then ya network settings :)
[04:56] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  ok.
[04:57] <bobbyflinch> and i need root acess now . . .
[04:57] <bl3ssing> thanks kkathman ...
[04:57] <bl3ssing> I'm on ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:57] <bl3ssing> what can I do right now?
[04:57] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  and when you do that, a little window pops up and says its getting your devices and then displays the screen?
[04:57] <kkathman> bl3ssing: now type that ln -s command I showed you up a bit ago
[04:58] <bobbyflinch> well i abunch of things show up of course i clicked network settings
[04:58] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok.. a screen pops up... should show eth0 kinda greyed out?
[04:58] <bobbyflinch> ya detectying your current platform
[04:58] <bobbyflinch> then its grey
[04:59] <bobbyflinch> and red x
[04:59] <bl3ssing> :-) nothing ...
[04:59] <bl3ssing> :-(
[04:59] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok..eventually that should go away
[04:59] <kkathman> bl3ssing:  what do you mean.. nothing?
[04:59] <bobbyflinch> i wish it wasn't red! with a white x
[04:59] <bl3ssing> I've typed: ln -s
[04:59] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok...now that means its not enabled
[04:59] <bl3ssing> and ... there's nothing appearing
[04:59] <bl3ssing> :-(
[04:59] <bobbyflinch> ya i know that
[04:59] <bobbyflinch> i want to enable it :D
[05:00] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  can you reposition that screen up a bit...make sure you see the whole thing..and see if there arent three buttons at the bottom right
[05:00] <bl3ssing> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/441013
[05:00] <bobbyflinch> ohh i dont see those
[05:00] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: Administrator Mode, Reset, and Apply (greyed out)
[05:00] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: hmmm odd
[05:00] <bl3ssing> kkathman, ... can you read this link ...? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/441013
[05:00] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:00] <kkathman> bl3ssing: patience, please
[05:00] <bobbyflinch> ohhh i see how do i make it sso i see everything!! ohh man shud of thought of that
[05:01] <bobbyflinch> :D how do i make it so i see the 3 buttons
[05:01] <bobbyflinch> i am so excited!
[05:01] <bobbyflinch> heh
[05:01] <bl3ssing> sure kkathman ... without patient, I'll die. :-)
[05:01] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: can you do a screen shot and paste it in http://kubuntu.pastebin.com  for me?
[05:02] <bobbyflinch> i am not conencted to the internet
[05:02] <bl3ssing> lol bobbyflinch ...
[05:02] <kkathman> ohh yeah shoot, sorry lol
[05:02] <bl3ssing> how can you chat with us than?
[05:02] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:02] <kkathman> hes on another computer I imagine
[05:02] <bl3ssing> aha
[05:02] <bobbyflinch> haha right
[05:02] <bobbyflinch> of course!
[05:02] <bl3ssing> that's right ...
[05:02] <bobbyflinch> on suse linux
[05:02] <bl3ssing> he said something about ...
[05:02] <bl3ssing> :)
[05:03] <kkathman> ok bobbyflinch
[05:03] <bobbyflinch> but ya how do i make the windows smaller :)?
[05:03] <kkathman> lets try this another way
[05:03] <bobbyflinch> ok lets go brotha!
[05:03] <bobbyflinch> haha
[05:03] <kkathman> can you get to a konsole
[05:03] <bobbyflinch> sure
[05:04] <bobbyflinch> i get scared in the konsole for some reason
[05:04] <kkathman> ahh ok
[05:04] <kkathman> no problem
[05:04] <bobbyflinch> ok shoot whats the command!
[05:04] <bobbyflinch> hehe
[05:04] <kkathman> do this from kde then....do an Alt-F2 and type kdesu kate
[05:04] <kkathman> that will bring up a text editor
[05:05] <kkathman> bl3ssing: in the meantime...are you still in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[05:05] <bobbyflinch> warnings!!!
[05:05] <bobbyflinch> ohh no
[05:05] <kkathman> warnings?
[05:05] <bobbyflinch> ya a lot
[05:05] <kkathman> hmm
[05:05] <bobbyflinch> kbuildsycoca
[05:05] <^rob^> hi
[05:06] <kkathman> ???
[05:06] <bobbyflinch> ok were good now
[05:06] <bobbyflinch> lol
[05:06] <bobbyflinch> i got scared man!
[05:06] <kkathman> ok
[05:06] <kkathman> can you open this file:  /etc/network/interfaces
[05:07] <bobbyflinch> k wait
[05:07] <bobbyflinch> yes
[05:07] <bobbyflinch> i can
[05:07] <kkathman> bl3ssing: type this:   ln -s /usr/bin/xmms ~/.kde/Autostart/xmms
[05:07] <^rob^> i am having some problems adding in gtk browser a folder to bookmarks : ex opening gimp, open file - i want in bookmark to have the latest project folder - when i click add say: Bookmark saving failed: could not change file mode: waitpid() failed no child process!!!
[05:08] <kkathman> there is a space between the first xmms and the ~
[05:08] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: let me know when you get that file up in the editor
[05:08] <bobbyflinch> it is done
[05:08] <bobbyflinch> :D
[05:08] <kkathman> ok
[05:08] <kkathman> kewls
[05:08] <bobbyflinch> i know so awesome i am excited
[05:08] <bobbyflinch> tells me nothing though :X
[05:09] <bobbyflinch> basic stuff i know
[05:09] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok now there should be some things in that file we need to look at
[05:09] <bobbyflinch> ok lets go!
[05:09] <^rob^> anyone had the same problem?
[05:09] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: first is there a line that starts #The network loopback
[05:09] <bobbyflinch> yes
[05:09] <bobbyflinch> auto lo
[05:10] <bobbyflinch> iface lo inet loopback
[05:10] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: address <IP_ADDRESS>  and netmask  <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[05:11] <bobbyflinch> ahh notsure to be honest i thought kubunti was helping me out with auto!
[05:11] <kkathman> well hold on
[05:11] <kkathman> do you have those other two lines there?
[05:11] <kkathman> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:12] <kkathman> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:12] <bobbyflinch> lol how do i just see the 3 buttons below!
[05:12] <bobbyflinch> haha
[05:12] <bobbyflinch> all i neeed :D
[05:12] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  please just follow ok?
[05:12] <bobbyflinch> ok ok
[05:12] <bobbyflinch> no there isn't
[05:12] <kkathman> gotta get you connected..then we get you updated ok?
[05:13] <kkathman> ok then right after that iface lo inet loopback line...add those two lines I just typed
[05:13] <kkathman> on separate lines
[05:13] <bobbyflinch> ok wonderful let me do that
[05:13] <bl3ssing> done
[05:14] <bl3ssing> I'll restart my computer to check the XMMS if it will start automatically
[05:14] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:14] <bl3ssing> ok kkathman ?
[05:14] <kkathman> bl3ssing: yep
[05:14] <bobbyflinch> ok done typing it :D
[05:14] <bobbyflinch> now save it?
[05:14] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  not yet
[05:15] <bobbyflinch> ok ok
[05:15] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok now down the file a bit...is there a heading that says # The primary network interface ??
[05:15] <bobbyflinch> ya iface inetshcp
[05:16] <bobbyflinch> eth0
[05:16] <bobbyflinch> iface eth0 inet dchp
[05:16] <kkathman> hmm
[05:17] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok..under that heading..you should have the following:  Please put these in:
[05:17] <kkathman> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:17] <kkathman> auto eth0
[05:17] <bobbyflinch>  ok :D
[05:18] <kkathman> are those there?
[05:18] <bobbyflinch> ya i had the first one ;)
[05:18] <bobbyflinch> are we done now ... .save it?
[05:19] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: yes save that
[05:19] <bobbyflinch> alrighty
[05:19] <bobbyflinch> now what?
[05:20] <kkathman> ok now lets go to a konsole please
[05:20] <bl3ssing> I'm back kkathman, but ... when my system starts, a sound is singing (the StartUp one ...); having the xmms among the Autostart programs, this xmms will not be able of singing. Is there any possibility of listening to more than one  sound same time?
[05:22] <bl3ssing> cause by example, if I'll be willing of listening to a movie sound and an mp3 file, it is impossible.
[05:22] <bobbyflinch> i give up on kubunru :D
[05:22] <bl3ssing> well, I want to use both ... to hear to both of them. Is there any possibiility of ..?
[05:22] <bobbyflinch> i am sorry
[05:22] <bl3ssing> you don't have to ... bobbyflinch  ...
[05:22] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:22] <bl3ssing> you're sorry for ...?
[05:22] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: aawww its gonna be ok
[05:22] <fyrmedic> How do I upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling my entire system?
[05:22] <bl3ssing> everything's going to be perfect.
[05:23] <bobbyflinch> :D its upsetting for a girl like me to not get it!
[05:23] <bobbyflinch> maybe not smart enough
[05:23] <bobbyflinch> :(
[05:23] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: are you at a konsole?
[05:23] <bobbyflinch> yes i am
[05:23] <kkathman> ok type:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:23] <bl3ssing> not at all ... bobbyflinch ... I'm a boy, not a smart one (even I'm an engineer in Comptuers ... :-) ...) and I've never said that I will quit with kubuntu. It is very good one. I like it.
[05:23] <bl3ssing> even I'm jsut a newbie, I'm still here.
[05:24] <bobbyflinch> ok were good now
[05:24] <bobbyflinch> did that command :)
[05:24] <bobbyflinch> bl#ssing - try suse sshhh :X
[05:24] <doctormo> does anyone know much about wifi?
[05:25] <kkathman> bobbyflinch:  in that same konsole...now type  ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: let me know what happens
[05:25] <bobbyflinch> network unreachable :(
[05:25] <bl3ssing> bobbyflinch, I'm sorry, but I don't have any suse system. Only XP and Kubuntu; the most used in the last 2 weeks is Kubuntu. The only one thing I'm using WinXp is for yahoo messenger ... for the offline messages and for the premiere software. Otherwise ... just Kubuntu and it is vrey nice.
[05:26] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ok..now can you tell me if you are attached to a router or directly to the net?
[05:26] <bobbyflinch> yahoo messenger lol use kopete
[05:26] <bobbyflinch> ya i am in a router
[05:26] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: ahhh ok
[05:27] <bl3ssing> kopete doesn't record the offline messages ... :-(
[05:27] <bobbyflinch> it shud :)
[05:27] <bl3ssing> cause I'm using it ...
[05:27] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: do you happen to know the IP address of your router?
[05:27] <bl3ssing> but ... nothing about the offline messages.
[05:27] <bl3ssing> :-(
[05:27] <bobbyflinch> ya i do :)
[05:27] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: excellent
[05:27] <bobbyflinch> ohh man though back to all this now!
[05:28] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: hehe its just methodical
[05:28] <bobbyflinch> lol ill just give it a shot later on a different network i am sure the 127 adress will be fine on my friends network
[05:28] <bobbyflinch> :)
[05:28] <bobbyflinch> i am in the <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[05:28] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: well, ok...we just needed to change that file again to include your gateway
[05:28] <bl3ssing> yeah, right bobbyflinch! :-)
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> hes in the 127. 0. 0. 1 my friend
[05:29] <kkathman> then should be ok
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> well thanks!
[05:29] <bl3ssing> kkathman, did you forget me? :-(
[05:29] <kkathman> bl3ssing: you rebooted
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> lol bl3ssing you have been blessed
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> :)
[05:29] <ronino> hi
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> ok ya thanks guys i think its gunna be a suse computer!
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> so much easier
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> or debian :)
[05:29] <bl3ssing> thanks bobbyflinch  ... I know i've been very blessed since I have a very nice fiancee ... I love her so very much ... that in March 2006 we'll get wed. :-)
[05:29] <bobbyflinch> :D debian hehe unlimted packages
[05:30] <kkathman> bobbyflinch: have a good one, sorry we couldnt finish your configuration
[05:30] <ronino> i have installed kubuntu, but somehow the keyboard layout is not the right one, though i chose Germany during installation, what can i do?
[05:30] <bobbyflinch> all these problems!
[05:30] <bobbyflinch> haah
[05:30] <bl3ssing> go in the system seetings ronino  ...
[05:30] <bobbyflinch> ok good luck everyone
[05:30] <raphink> bobbyflinch: good luck to you too ;)
[05:31] <bobbyflinch> hey all since you kinda helped me ahh i would like to share a website!
[05:31] <bobbyflinch> :D
[05:31] <kkathman> hey raphink :)
[05:31] <raphink> btw, ubuntu uses debian packages
[05:31] <raphink> hi kkathman
[05:31] <bobbyflinch> www.gogloom.com
[05:31] <ronino> bl3ssing: in kcontrol?
[05:31] <bl3ssing> sure
[05:31] <bl3ssing> there's the keyboard seetings you can find ...
[05:31] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:31] <raphink> ronino: if you want you can use kcontrol yes
[05:31] <kkathman> bl3ssing:  did xmms start on reboot?
[05:31] <bobbyflinch> check out gogloom :D
[05:31] <bl3ssing> and I assume there's the possibility of changing it. :-)
[05:32] <bobbyflinch> www.gogloom.com
[05:32] <bobbyflinch> :D
[05:32] <bl3ssing> kkathman, yes. But the sound ... nope. it gave me an error because when the ssytem started up, the sound of the Start-Up sound has just been appealed and ... the xmms isn't playing when another sound is activated.
[05:32] <bl3ssing> :-(
[05:32] <ronino> then my mouse pointer is jumping around like crazy, where can i configure the mouse?
[05:33] <raphink> nice site bobbyflinch
[05:33] <bl3ssing> what can I do to be able to listen to more than 2 sounds same time ...?
[05:33] <kkathman> bl3ssing: sounds like your link worked, but xmms isnt configured right
[05:33] <raphink> ronino: in systemsettings too
[05:33] <bl3ssing> ronino, the same, in kcontrol.
[05:33] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:33] <bl3ssing> or system seetings.
[05:33] <kkathman> bl3ssing: I am not an xmms expert
[05:33] <ronino> okay
[05:33] <bl3ssing> kkathman, ... it is not about xmms
[05:33] <raphink> bl3ssing: using what version of kde ?
[05:33] <bl3ssing> it is only about the sound of the sistem
[05:33] <bl3ssing> I'm using kubuntu 10.0
[05:33] <bl3ssing> 5.10
[05:33] <bl3ssing> sorry
[05:34] <raphink> did you upgrade kde ?
[05:34] <ronino> bl3ssing, raphink: what is systems settings, if it's not kcontrol?
[05:34] <bl3ssing> it is not about hte xmms ... it is about that kubuntu can't play 2 sounds same time, right?
[05:34] <bl3ssing> it is the same ronino.
[05:34] <raphink> ronino: systemsettings is a new gui to set KDE, like kcontrol
[05:34] <Delvien> aanyone know how to add additional Keyboard layouts, for brand new keyboards?
[05:34] <raphink> but you can use kcontrol
[05:34] <bl3ssing> system seetings's the neq gui to set kde...
[05:34] <bl3ssing> the same as kcontrol ...
[05:34] <raphink> Delvien: you can't find it in systemsettings?
[05:34] <bl3ssing> Delvien, depending on the purpose you're using the keyboard.
[05:35] <bl3ssing> if you're using it in OpenOffice ... then you can configure it from the OpenOffice
[05:35] <bl3ssing> in System Seetings are another possibility of changing it.
[05:35] <bl3ssing> kkathman, if I'm starting another audio player program, than it will be the same as xmms.
[05:36] <bl3ssing> everything's about the 2 sounds which're willing of singing same time. but the kubuntu doesn't allow to them singing the same time. why not?
[05:36] <Delvien> raphink bl3ssing Well got this new mx5000 set from logitech , but cant seem to have the my music button work to open amaroK, but in xev it says its a valid key. and registers
[05:36] <bl3ssing> :-(
[05:36] <raphink> Delvien: did you set the shortcut ?
[05:36] <bl3ssing> this mx500 from logitech, it has a linux driver or not?
[05:37] <raphink> it doesn't matter much
[05:37] <Delvien> raphink trying, but it wont register in the shortcut editor
[05:37] <raphink> many keyboards use a standard for multimedia keys
[05:37] <Delvien> bl3ssing no not exactly
[05:37] <raphink> you can try other keyboards and see what keys are recognized
[05:37] <Delvien> raphink am i missing where im supposed to be setting it
[05:37] <raphink> I even had a remote control work this way
[05:38] <bl3ssing> than .. you shoudl go in adept .. .and trying to find the keyboard/mouse (if it will be the case for the last one too) driver ...
[05:38] <raphink> Delvien: in kcontrol or systemsettings
[05:38] <bl3ssing> and ... installing ...
[05:38] <raphink> if you want to be able to launch amarok with it
[05:38] <raphink> if you want to control amarok with it
[05:38] <raphink> then in amarok ;)
[05:38] <raphink> no bl3ssing
[05:38] <raphink> there is no keyboard drivers packaged as far as I know
[05:38] <Delvien> raphink ok , in keyboard shortcuts?
[05:39] <raphink> sure Delvien
[05:39] <Delvien> lol
[05:39] <bl3ssing> heheheh
[05:40] <Delvien> rraphink when in there and when i press the button it deselects the box, but doesnt change it to that button.
[05:40] <bl3ssing> everything's about the 2 sounds which're willing of singing same time. but the kubuntu doesn't allow to them singing the same time. why not?
[05:41] <bl3ssing> restart the computer Delvien
[05:41] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:41] <Delvien> why?
[05:41] <raphink> bl3ssing: this is not windows
[05:41] <raphink> :p
[05:41] <bl3ssing> maybe you shuld do it ... just do it. Than ... I supose your keyboard will be initialized again ...
[05:41] <bl3ssing> I know raphink ...
[05:41] <raphink> restarting a computer doesn't help much, most of the time :p
[05:42] <bl3ssing> this is not the meaning that you don't have to restart your computer for a better refreshing ...
[05:42] <bl3ssing> :-)
[05:42] <raphink> Delvien: does it say the name of the key when you press it?
[05:42] <Delvien> no
[05:42] <raphink> then it means it's not recognized
[05:42] <Delvien> and the key is recognized in Xev
[05:42] <kkathman> bl3ssing: I would say that having two sounds playing simultaneously wouldnt be a requirement for most players :)
[05:42] <raphink> did you set the keyboard layout Delvien ?
[05:42] <Delvien> thats whyt io asked if there is a way to get new keyboard layouts
[05:42] <bl3ssing> this is not a solution kkathman ...
[05:43] <Delvien> raphink it doesnt have mine because this keyboard is so new
[05:43] <raphink> Delvien: try other keyboards of the kind
[05:43] <kkathman> bl3ssing: if you would like to make an enhancement request to XMMS go to their page and enter it
[05:43] <raphink> like other logitech ones
[05:43] <bl3ssing> ok ... kkathman
[05:43] <raphink> or even other kind of keyboards
[05:43] <raphink> it might work
[05:43] <bl3ssing> I'm not using the xmms especially ...
[05:43] <raphink> you have to find a keyboard that is close to yours Delvien
[05:43] <bl3ssing> but I'm opened for amarok or any other audio player
[05:44] <bl3ssing> I just want to play my file without existing any conflicts between the first palyer and the second one.
[05:45] <kkathman> bl3ssing: why would 2 players be playing at the same time?
[05:45] <Delvien> raphink i switched over to me itouch logitech, set it to the itouch keyboard layout and that doesnt work either..
[05:45] <bl3ssing> it is not about playing the same time ...
[05:45] <raphink> try other ones Delvien
[05:45] <raphink> try microsoft ones, or anything
[05:45] <raphink> till you find a keyboard that recognizes your keys
[05:45] <Delvien> hehe ive gone through the whole list before i came in here and asked
[05:46] <raphink> cmon there are about 50 keyboards listed
[05:46] <raphink> you can't have tried them all and found nothing that would fit
[05:46] <bl3ssing> it is not about playing ... it is just that if I'm strating my media player to watch any short movie, than ... while my audio player will be running, why should I strop the audio player to hear the media player sound one? :-(
[05:46] <bl3ssing> in windows you can listen to many sounds smae time ...
[05:46] <raphink> what's your kbd name again Delvien ?
[05:46] <Delvien> raphink all of them regocnize the mail key.. /sigh
[05:47] <bl3ssing> why whouldn't it be like this in linux too? cause this is a very nice opportunity for me.
[05:47] <Delvien> raphink Logitech Mx5000
[05:47] <kkathman> bl3ssing: well I'd go to the forums and see if you can get an answer
[05:47] <raphink> thats funny
[05:47] <raphink> there are MX kbs
[05:48] <raphink> kbds
[05:48] <raphink> but they're not logitech
[05:48] <raphink> they are memorex
[05:48] <Delvien> aye diff layouts
[05:48] <Kimppa> Hi. Does anyone know how I can get skype to use xine-engine instead of arts?
[05:48] <raphink> did you try these ones?
[05:48] <Delvien> iim on a memorex now
[05:48] <raphink> Delvien: try the shortcut again
[05:48] <Delvien> i went through every single layout before i came to konversation and asked
[05:48] <raphink> see if the key is recognized
[05:48] <Delvien> raphink its not hehe
[05:49] <bl3ssing> k kkathman ; thanks for ... help.  God bless all of you. :-)
[05:49] <kkathman> cya bl3ssing :)
[05:49] <raphink> Delvien: each time you tried a layout, did you go to the shortcut stuff and try to use the key?
[05:49] <Delvien> raphink none of the layouts work.,. i asked if there is anyway to set them or install one
[05:49] <Delvien> aye
[05:49] <bl3ssing> I'm not going anywhere kkathman  ...
[05:49] <bl3ssing> I'll be right over here ...
[05:49] <kkathman> oh ok
[05:49] <bl3ssing> ;))
[05:49] <kkathman> hehe
[05:49] <kkathman> over where?
[05:49] <kkathman> lol
[05:49] <raphink> Delvien: I mean : you say you tested each layout
[05:49] <Delvien> yes i did
[05:50] <Delvien> took me like an hour
[05:50] <raphink> does that mean you just selected each, then tried pushing the key and it did nothing
[05:50] <raphink> or that you tried each, then each time went to the shortcut page and tried changing the key?
[05:50] <Delvien> yyes i tried to set the shortcut with each layout
[05:50] <raphink> hmm
[05:50] <raphink> well then you can still create a layout for this kbd ;)
[05:51] <Delvien> hhow hehe?
[05:51] <raphink> google for it
[05:54] <bl3ssing> When my system starts, a sound is singing (the StartUp one ...); having the xmms among the Autostart programs, this xmms will not be able of singing (it can be any player).  I'm uninstalling the konquer cause I don't need it. :-)
[06:00] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: if you are using alsa, you need the dmix plugin. that's abt all i know
[06:01] <bl3ssing> trying to install alsa robotgeek; thanks ... hope it will work.
[06:02] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: good luck
[06:04] <kkathman> bl3ssing: on the default browser thing...are you under kde/kubuntu?
[06:05] <bl3ssing> yeap
[06:05] <bl3ssing> kkathman,
[06:05] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:06] <kkathman> bl3ssing: ok..do this... Alt-F2, type kcontrol...choose KDE Components from the left side then choose Component Chooser...then on the right..choose Web Browser and type firefox
[06:08] <bl3ssing> robotgeek, , where can i get this dmix plugin from? Adept doesn't recognize the command dmix
[06:08] <bl3ssing> :-(
[06:09] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: http://www.alsa-project.org/ and search for dmix
[06:09] <bl3ssing> kkathman, this is allready done ... :-)
[06:09] <bl3ssing> thanks man.
[06:09] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:09] <ronino> i'm plugging in an usbstick, a konq window pops up saying "media:/sda1 does not exist"
[06:09] <ronino> what to do?
[06:09] <bl3ssing> robotgeek, i'll do it in a sec.
[06:09] <kkathman> bl3ssing: you are all set then for your browser thing then
[06:09] <ronino> do i have to configure something?
[06:09] <bl3ssing> yeap
[06:09] <ronino> and what and where?
[06:09] <bl3ssing> you need to have a root right to access that sda1
[06:10] <bl3ssing> I think you have to mount that sda1
[06:10] <bl3ssing> same as for any hdd
[06:10] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:10] <bl3ssing> ronino, I'm talking to you.
[06:10] <bl3ssing> =))
[06:10] <bl3ssing> in case you don't know.
[06:12] <ronino> bl3ssing: of course ;-)
[06:13] <alvonsius> ronino ... have you upgrade your kubuntu?
[06:13] <alvonsius> coz my box run well with usbdrive after dat
[06:13] <ronino> bl3ssing: i guess i can setup /etc/fstab in such a way that the device is listed there and the mount directory exists
[06:14] <ronino> alvonsius: i ran apt-get update and upgrade, but i haven't rebooted after that, should i?
[06:14] <bl3ssing> mine as well alvonsius  ...
[06:14] <bl3ssing> but maybe ronino is not knowing that Linux doesn't need to be restarted after any updading. :-)
[06:14] <bl3ssing> didn't you say anything about not to restart your comptuer in linux after updating any software? :-))
[06:14] <ronino> bl3ssing: for a kernel upgrade sure
[06:14] <bl3ssing> you're funny ronino ...
[06:14] <alvonsius> yup ... you don't have to restart it
[06:14] <bl3ssing> really?
[06:15] <bl3ssing> it is the same for the kernel ...
[06:15] <bl3ssing> so ... don't worry
[06:15] <bl3ssing> the kernel is not configurated as in win where all the kernels are individually .. for each soft/driver/...
[06:15] <bl3ssing> not the same for linux
[06:15] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:15] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: not quite. for kernel upgrades, you would need to reboot for it to take effect. however, you don't need to reboot
[06:16] <ronino> who the heck configure konq's tool bar?
[06:16] <ronino> configured..
[06:17] <bl3ssing> lol ronino  about the konq's toolbar
[06:17] <bl3ssing> just quit with konq ... cause I'm using the mozilla.
[06:17] <bl3ssing> I don't like konq ...
[06:17] <ronino> bl3ssing: hehe
[06:17] <ronino> i want to manage some files
[06:17] <bl3ssing> it is the worsst browser I've ever seen in linux. :-)
[06:17] <bl3ssing> Mozila's the best.
[06:17] <bl3ssing> Mozilla... not Mozila.
[06:17] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:17] <ronino> ts
[06:17] <ronino> Konq's better
[06:18] <bl3ssing> which is the best audio player ronino ? do you have any idea?
[06:18] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: that's a personal pref, konq is very nice. not quite a memory hog.
[06:18] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: amarok!
[06:18] <bl3ssing> realy robotgeek ?
[06:19] <bl3ssing> wow ... that's good than. I've never knew that mozilla uses a lots of memory ...
[06:19] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: i am not quite sure about mozilla, but firefox does
[06:19] <bl3ssing> aha ... I see.
[06:19] <bl3ssing> it is almost the same ... mozilla/firefox.
[06:19] <bl3ssing> ;)
[06:19] <bl3ssing> konq doesn't use a lot of mem ... robotgeek ?
[06:19] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:20] <_carsten> carsten: dieser nicht ist belegt
[06:20] <bl3ssing> lol _carsten ... can you speak english, but not deutch ... :-) heheheh
[06:20] <bl3ssing> lol _carsten ... can you speak english, but not deutch ... :-) heheheh
[06:20] <robotgeek> !de
[06:20] <ubotu> de is, like, Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:20] <bl3ssing> !de
[06:21] <bl3ssing> !sound
[06:21] <ubotu> well, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:21] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: i personally find konq faster on my machine, and better integrated with other apps in the system, like a RSS reader etc
[06:21] <ronino> blueyed: of course, Windoze Media Player is the best audio player, muhahahaha
[06:21] <carsten> bl3ssing: wow, that wasn't even german :)
[06:21] <ronino> sorry blueyed
[06:21] <bl3ssing> lol carsten  ..
[06:21] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:21] <ronino> bl3ssing:  of course, Windoze Media Player is the best audio player, muhahahaha
[06:21] <bl3ssing> lol ronino
[06:21] <carsten> I just wanted to tell the "wrong" carsten that I will kick him :)
[06:21] <bl3ssing> =))))))))
[06:21] <bl3ssing> that's was the best ...
[06:21] <carsten> carsten_: I own the nick "carsten"
[06:21] <bl3ssing> in Kubuntu?
[06:21] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:22] <bl3ssing> carsten, : isn't this german lang: " dieser nicht ist belegt"?
[06:22] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:22] <musik> what is this gnubuntu about? plz clarify?
[06:22] <bl3ssing> shall I translate to you what those words means?
[06:22] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:22] <carsten> bl3ssing: I wanted to say "dieser nick ist belegt" which is "this nick is in use"
[06:23] <carsten> but I had a typo in it
[06:23] <bl3ssing> LOL ... so it was in german, right?
[06:23] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:23] <carsten> bl3ssing: somehow, yes
[06:25] <gochoo> Hi all, I have some problem configuring VPN client in Kubuntu, I connected to vpn server, the problem is i send huge amount of data, but recieving nothing, ANY IDEA?
[06:26] <raphink> gnubuntu?
[06:26] <raphink> will that be an Ubuntu GNU/Hurd distro ?
[06:28] <Riddell> musik: what is what about gnubuntu?
[06:29] <musik> what is gnubuntu actually? how is it different from ubuntu & its other derivatives?
[06:29] <bl3ssing> I have a pb. How can I write/delete over the windows partitions from kubuntu partitions? I want to copy something from linux on windows partitions and viceversa.
[06:29] <raphink> it seems Mark announced a project called Gnubuntuy
[06:29] <raphink> Gnubuntu
[06:29] <raphink> in association with the FSF
[06:29] <raphink> it would gather the `FSF-blessed' Ubuntu package
[06:29] <musik> so whats unique about it?
[06:30] <gochoo> I have some problem configuring VPN client in Kubuntu, I connected to vpn server, the problem is i send huge amount of data, but recieving nothing, ANY IDEA?
[06:30] <musik> ubuntu is already FSF if u mean free software foundation?
[06:30] <nino> hi all
[06:30] <Riddell> musik: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013261.html
[06:30] <ronino> nino: damn, you stole my back
[06:31] <nino> lol
[06:31] <ronino> ;-)
[06:31] <bl3ssing> !windows partition
[06:31] <ubotu> bl3ssing: I give up, what is it?
[06:31] <bl3ssing> !partition
[06:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, bl3ssing
[06:31] <bl3ssing> !window
[06:31] <ubotu> bl3ssing: I don't know
[06:32] <bl3ssing> !windows
[06:32] <ubotu> windows is probably unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[06:32] <bl3ssing> !alternative
[06:32] <ubotu> somebody said alternative was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:34] <BlankC> bl3ssing: are you trying to figure out how to mount windows partitions?
[06:35] <BlankC> !ntfs
[06:42] <bl3ssing> nope
[06:42] <bl3ssing> cause I can see the partitions on windows.
[06:42] <bl3ssing> I just want to access them as the linux ... ones.
[06:42] <bl3ssing> by examply, i want to copy a linux file into a windows partition and I cannot.
[06:42] <bl3ssing> :-(
[06:50] <bl3ssing> How can I write/delete in/from the windows partitions from/in kubuntu partitions? I want to copy something from linux on windows partitions and viceversa.
[06:51] <bl3ssing> hellllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[06:53] <kkathman> bl3ssing: please dont do that
[06:53] <kkathman> bl3ssing: are you running windows and linux on the same machine?
[06:55] <kkathman> bl3ssing: http://www.fbeedle.com/technote/03-01/etude15/etude15.html
[06:56] <bl3ssing> yeap
[06:57] <bl3ssing> kkathman,  ...I'm running both on my laptop
[06:57] <kkathman> see the link above
[06:57] <Stele> you should use vmware or something
[06:57] <kkathman> that tells you everything
[06:57] <kkathman> Stele: nah no need..but vmware is kind kewl..but expensive
[06:58] <bl3ssing> but ... the main reason I want to copy/delete files from my both windows/linux partition is cause I've some friends who're using only Linux and I want to find almost the compatible programs linux uses for the win users ... I don't want to use Windows anymore.
[06:58] <Stele> i dont like running multiple OSs on one machine
[06:58] <kkathman> bl3ssing: http://www.fbeedle.com/technote/03-01/etude15/etude15.html
[06:58] <Stele> but that's why I have 10 computers :)
[06:58] <bl3ssing> Stele, are you talking to me/
[06:58] <Stele> ssh/scp is your friend
[06:58] <bl3ssing> :-)
[06:58] <Stele> whoever will listen - i'm lonely
[06:58] <kkathman> bl3ssing: there are programs for most everything in Linux
[06:58] <kkathman> lol Stele :)
[07:00] <Stele> you waste a lot of time rebooting
[07:00] <bl3ssing> cool ... but if somebody'll come to me to work something for them, and they have files on windows partitions like fat32, ntfs,...  how can I access them ... how can I move my work from linux partitions on win partitions? this is my wish to know.
[07:00] <Stele> better to have another computer to fiddle with while the other reboots
[07:00] <kkathman> bl3ssing: you are saying two things at once...one you want to access file on Windows from Linux and the second..you want to run everything on Windows
[07:00] <kkathman> er Linux
[07:00] <Stele> yeah - pick an OS and stick with it
[07:00] <kkathman> you can do all those things
[07:00] <Stele> you can mount fat32 and ntfs partitions
[07:00] <Stele> from Linux
[07:00] <Stele> what's the problem
[07:00] <kkathman> bl3ssing: do you NOT pay attention?? I just gave you the URL twice
[07:00] <bl3ssing> that's very good kkathman about the pgorams which are existing ... inlinux. I love linux a lot and ... I don't want to have WinXp anymore ... but before this, I want to make myself sure that I will handle with everything (90%)...
[07:00] <kkathman> bl3ssing: http://www.fbeedle.com/technote/03-01/etude15/etude15.html
[07:00] <kkathman> bl3ssing: http://www.fbeedle.com/technote/03-01/etude15/etude15.html
[07:00] <bl3ssing> I have already accesed that link
[07:00] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:00] <kkathman> there twice more
[07:01] <kkathman> then read it
[07:01] <bl3ssing> don't send it anymore
[07:01] <kkathman> it tells you everything
[07:01] <bl3ssing> this is what I'm doing right now.
[07:01] <kkathman> good
[07:01] <bl3ssing> thanks kkathman ...
[07:01] <bl3ssing> God bless you.
[07:01] <Stele> "mount" is my favorite command
[07:01] <Stele> as in "mount me" or "let me mount you"
[07:01] <kkathman> rofl
[07:01] <Stele> usually followed up with "bitch"
[07:01] <Lord_Athur> Hi
[07:01] <kkathman> sudo mount me now
[07:02] <manveru> hey guys, someone knows what happened with alsaconf?
[07:02] <Lord_Athur> no idea
[07:02] <Lord_Athur> I've got a question
[07:02] <Stele> i havent seem him in awhile
[07:02] <bl3ssing> LOL Stelle ...
[07:02] <bl3ssing> tha'ts funny
[07:02] <Stele> "whois alsaconf"
[07:02] <manveru> Stele: there is none
[07:02] <manveru> Stele: but i have alsa-base and alsa-tools and everything
[07:03] <bl3ssing> anybody knows about a chat messenger, like kopete ... which can give me the opportunity of saving my offline messages. By example, if i'll be offline and somebody'll send me some msgs, than I'd love those messages to be saved into my computer after I'd have already readed them ... is there any program doing this?
[07:03] <manveru> bl3ssing: try gaim
[07:03] <bl3ssing> on linux, of course. cause on windows, I got the yahoo messenger.
[07:03] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:03] <bl3ssing> hello manveru; how're you?
[07:03] <manveru> bl3ssing: fine, but i have problems with sound
[07:04] <bl3ssing> I've been looking for you ... but you were  nowhere ...
[07:04] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:04] <bl3ssing> what kind of pbs?
[07:04] <manveru> yeah... i'm always idling around on other channels
[07:04] <manveru> well, i cannot find alsaconf
[07:04] <kkathman> bl3ssing: how can you get offline messages ..by definition if you are offline, how can any "instant" messaging work?
[07:04] <jakob> can anyone please help me mounting my ntfs partitions?
[07:05] <kkathman> bl3ssing: even AOL/MSN cannot do that if you are "offline"
[07:05] <BlankC> jakob: mount /dev/hdx1 /mnt/mountpoint
[07:05] <BlankC> !ntfs
[07:07] <gochoo> I have some problem configuring VPN client in Kubuntu, I connected to vpn server, the problem is i send huge amount of data, but recieving nothing, ANY IDEA?
[07:08] <jakob> thank you blankx
[07:08] <bl3ssing> kkathman, do you know how yahoo messenger is working? than ... this is my answer: YAHOO MESSENGER IS THE BEST IN THIS SUBJECT: OFFLINE MESSAGES!
[07:09] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: stop yelling, hurts
[07:09] <bl3ssing> you're right kkathman, if I'm offline I can't take messages with aol/msn, but with yahoo messenger is different ... :-)
[07:09] <Tm_T> I'm not deaf, yet
[07:09] <bl3ssing> sorry for ... the capitals ... not on purpose
[07:09] <bl3ssing> I've pressed on the caps-lock key without my willing
[07:09] <bl3ssing> :-(
[07:09] <bl3ssing> that's a bad key ... and bad position ... :-(
[07:10] <bl3ssing> kkathman, did you understand about yahoo messenger? has linux any yahoo linux? nope. that's sad.
[07:10] <bl3ssing> but I won't give it up; I'll try to find something. :-)
[07:14] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[07:14] <jpgeerets>  i have a Q
[07:14] <jpgeerets> is it possible to mount a cd/dvd image?
[07:15] <artrok> hey all!
[07:15] <kkathman> jpgeerets: mount an image?
[07:16] <jpgeerets> yeah, right
[07:16] <jpgeerets> like a bin file
[07:16] <jpgeerets> or an iso file
[07:16] <jpgeerets> for example
[07:16] <jpgeerets> on windows you need a program like virtual cd
[07:16] <jazwec> hi
[07:16] <jpgeerets> somethign like that for linux / kubuntu?
[07:17] <jazwec> crimsun hi..please are you here?
[07:17] <PupenoL-> Hello.
[07:17] <PupenoL-> Does anybody know of a nice password generator ?
[07:17] <jazwec> PupenoL password generator? what is that for?
[07:18] <kkathman> bl3ssing: not sure, but if yahoo messenger has something that "saves" messages to you while you are offline, then they must store them somehow on their server. But I dont think gaim or kopete have the capability to retreieve them...to my knowledge
[07:18] <crimsun> jazwec: not really, I'm in a meeting atm, what's up?
[07:18] <PupenoL-> jazwec: to generate passwords.
[07:19] <jazwec> crumsun oh its ok when you dont have time...i just reinstalled my kubuntu and i didnt write that command for configuring my sound card as the main one...
[07:20] <bl3ssing> kkathman, yahoo messenger does save the offline messages on the server only until I'll be able of reading them. When I'll read them, the messeges will be saved into my computer automatically (of couse, on the ymessenger seetings you should accept this ...).
[07:20] <bl3ssing> and ... you'll have all the offline messges on your own computer
[07:20] <kkathman> bl3ssing: yah. gaim/kopete dont do that...remember that those two programs are basically hacks to all the instant messaging systems
[07:20] <bl3ssing> but ... if I'm chatting with someone, I can even save the conversation into my computer with ymessenger. kopete does this ... or not?
[07:21] <bl3ssing> oh ... I see.
[07:21] <bl3ssing> so ... linux doesn't have any programs like yahoo messenger, right?
[07:21] <bl3ssing> :-(
[07:21] <bl3ssing> pretty sad.
[07:21] <bl3ssing> but ... it is ok.
[07:21] <bl3ssing> I have the winxp and ... whenever I'm speaking to my fiancee, I'll save the conversations in windows.
[07:22] <bl3ssing> otherwise, I'll work in linux, as I've already done it since 2-3 weeks ago. :-) And I'm proud of kubuntu.
[07:22] <LjL> kkathman: calling them "basically hack" doesn't do justice to them, i think... they're just currently a bit limited perhaps
[07:23] <LjL> kkathman, bl3ssing: Miranda is "basically a hack" like Gaim and Kopete, in that it supports multiple (many) protocols by means of plug-ins, but yet it is able to save the logs
[07:23] <LjL> unfortunately, Miranda, though free software, works only on Windows
[07:23] <kkathman> LjL: what I mean, is that those IM networks are proprietary in their access, and all programs like kopete, trillium, gaim, etc dont use the standard protocols, because they are essentially "hacking" the network
[07:23] <Tm_T> hey, Kopete and Gaim does log messages
[07:24] <LjL> kkathman: in a way, yes. Miranda does the same, though, and it logs :)
[07:24] <LjL> Tm_T: i dunno, i was just basing myself on what they were saying... i currenty use neither of them myself
[07:24] <kkathman> Logs are different yes...Gaim allows logs, Kopete doesnt I dont think
[07:24] <LjL> kkathman: hmm, then i'm not sure i've understood what you were talking about!
[07:25] <kkathman> LjL: but the ability to get server messages, that would be something I'd be surprised if the hackked programs could do
[07:25] <Tm_T> kkathman: it does, also there's history plugin
[07:25] <LjL> oh, they don't get server messages?! Miranda definitely did that for me with the ICQ protocol
[07:25] <jpgeerets> some ever tryed to connect and sync a pocketpc?
[07:25] <kkathman> LjL: read up and see that bl3ssing was asking specifically about offline messages in yahoo
[07:25] <Tm_T> kkathman: that can show old messages in chat window (as you set)
[07:25] <kkathman> ICQ yes, not yahoo probably
[07:25] <gochoo> I have some problem configuring VPN client in Kubuntu, I connected to vpn server, the problem is i send huge amount of data, but recieving nothing, ANY IDEA?
[07:26] <kkathman> Tm_T:  kewl...could you walk bl3ssing through that install then?
[07:26] <LjL> kkathman: well, for that matter, he was asking about kopete, not miranda
[07:26] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:26] <Tm_T> kkathman: install of what?
[07:26] <LjL> Tm_T: history plugin? where's that? or, better, do you have a good pointer to learn about kopete and any external plugins for it?
[07:26] <kkathman> LjL: hehe yah..well he wanted any program that could retrieve his yahoo offline messages
[07:26] <Tm_T> LjL: history plugin is in Kopete
[07:26] <kkathman> if miranda can..you should help
[07:26] <Tm_T> part of release
[07:27] <LjL> kkathman: you missed the part where i said Miranda only works on Windows ;)
[07:27] <bl3ssing> ok people ... any solution on my mistery?
[07:27] <bl3ssing> lol LjL  ...
[07:27] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: ok, what was the issue here?
[07:27] <bl3ssing> about Mirnada wroking only in win
[07:27] <bl3ssing> hahhaha
[07:27] <bl3ssing> I don't want to use win anymore
[07:27] <bl3ssing> I want to use only linux.
[07:27] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:27] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: you wanted yo see old messages in chat window? and see history etc etc?
[07:27] <bl3ssing> that's why this important subject... offline messages
[07:28] <LjL> bl3ssing: i think it would be nice if Miranda was ported to linux, i always found it a very nice program. but oh well
[07:28] <bl3ssing> that's right Tm_T
[07:28] <bl3ssing> I see LjL
[07:28] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: in kopete contact list window: menu -> settings -> configure plugins ->
[07:28] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: I think you find out what to do
[07:28] <bl3ssing> how can we do this ...? :-) shall we talk to the programmers of Miranda to make one for us too?
[07:28] <bl3ssing> :-)
[07:28] <LjL> Tm_T: i think he actually wanted to be able to receive messages that are sent through the server
[07:28] <LjL> Tm_T: as opposed to messages sent directly client-to-client
[07:29] <Tm_T> err
[07:29] <LjL> Tm_T: at least, that's what i think kkathman said
[07:29] <LjL> bl3ssing: nope... they're making free software, so they surely know well about linux. they'll have their reasons -- good or bad :-(
[07:30] <Tm_T> imo miranda is "ok"
[07:30] <Tm_T> it does the job
[07:31] <LjL> Tm_T: i haven't been using it (or any other similar program for that matter) for a long time, so i suppose other programs have now caught up... but i found miranda incredibly good, small and flexible when i did use it
[07:32] <Tm_T> heh
[07:32] <Tm_T> I don't like it, some people do
[07:32] <pussfeller> i have libmad, but xine is still not playing mp3s
[07:33] <bl3ssing> ok
[07:33] <bl3ssing> I've installed that plugin ... the history one
[07:33] <bl3ssing> I'll do some experiences now to see if it is working ...
[07:34] <LjL> Tm_T: i was bought by the wealth of plugins there were for it. i had a plugin that incorporated a "learning" bot into miranda, it was fun as hell :)
[07:35] <artrok> hi all
[07:35] <LjL> (of course, not so funny when you targeted the bot at the "wrong" person by mistake, and it started picking "wrong" pieces of phrases from conversations that had place with someone else... :)
[07:36] <artrok> how can i easily set up a server/router on my kubuntu machine
[07:36] <artrok> to get my win98se pc online
[07:37] <bl3ssing> kkathman, the link you gave me it didn't help me at all. :-(
[07:37] <bl3ssing> LjL,  ... can I ask you something?
[07:38] <LjL> artrok: your mileage may vary, but i think the following command works for me: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE -s x.x.x.x -d <IP_ADDRESS>/0      with "x.x.x.x" being the internal IP address of your windows machine
[07:38] <LjL> bl3ssing: ask
[07:38] <bl3ssing> How can I write/delete in/from the windows partitions from/in kubuntu partitions? I want to copy something from linux on windows partitions and viceversa, so that any files which shall be accesed, to be able for being modified ... and so on...
[07:38] <bl3ssing> that's for you LjL; :-)
[07:39] <LjL> bl3ssing: if your windows partitions use NTFS, you can't write on them from linux (actually, you can, but you definitely shouldnt, as it can be quite dangerous)
[07:39] <LjL> bl3ssing: if your partitions are FAT32, then there's no problem
[07:40] <kkathman> LjL: I sent him a link that explained that in detail :)
[07:40] <artrok> LjL: and what to do on the win98 machine?
[07:41] <LjL> artrok: nothing special... give it the same IP address you used on that line, give your linux machine's internal IP as gateway... and that should be it
[07:42] <kkathman> bl3ssing: you should read that site very closely again, it tells you exactly what you need to know as long as you are not NTFS on windows
[07:44] <LjL> artrok: also, on the linux machine, "route add x.x.x.x ethX", with ethX being the network card the other computer is connected to, might help
[07:57] <AndiM> hi guys! could someone on (K)Ubuntu Breezy please do a dpkg --get-selections >/tmp/breezy_selections.log and mail me that file? (andi AT A HOST CALLED lisas.de). I'm doing a cross-grade from Debian Sarge and want to make sure to get everything right... Thanks!
[08:00] <LjL> AndM: i could, but i have much more than the standard packages installed!
[08:00] <LjL> AndiM:
[08:00] <JakubS> it is funny how much better kubuntu looks after removing most of fonts installed by default
[08:01] <LjL> JakubS: really?
[08:01] <AndiM> LjL: thanks, but I'm already satisfied, #ubuntu pointed me at ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop pkgs
[08:01] <LjL> AndiM: ok
[08:01] <JakubS> LjL: yes, defaults ones don't have all iso-8859-2 characters and empty rectangles instead of letters look really bad
[08:02] <LjL> JakubS: oh, that's for sure! but then, you've got to have other fonts installed i suppose
[08:02] <JakubS> nope, just removing bad ones and leaving good ones
[08:02] <LjL> JakubS: i've tried the Microsoft font myself on kubuntu, but i think the standard Sans Serif looks better than Verdana here
[08:03] <kkathman> LjL: I agree...I tried the MS fonts once...they seemed worse :)
[08:03] <LjL> JakubS: but then, can't you just set it to use the good ones instead of completely remove the bad ones?
[08:03] <kkathman> LjL: yes you can :)
[08:03] <LjL> kkathman: they don't look too bad on Windows... perhaps it's Freetype that doesn't render them too well, or perhaps they just don't fit well with KDE
[08:04] <JakubS> LjL: probably i could but what good will me do keeping useless fonts around?
[08:04] <LjL> JakubS: well you have a point there
[08:04] <kkathman> LjL: true I meant that the MS Windows fonts under Linux didnt look as good to me
[08:04] <LjL> JakubS: although, the letters i use in my language are all there
[08:04] <bl3ssing> LjL,  how can I access (not only for reading but for modifying the informations as well) the files from fat32 partitions ... ? :-(
[08:04] <JakubS> and this way i don't have to fight separately with kde, openoffice, whatnot
[08:04] <LjL> kkathman: yes, that's my impression too
[08:05] <kkathman> bl3ssing: try reading that link I sent you sir
[08:05] <LjL> bl3ssing: just like you access them for reading
[08:05] <bl3ssing> I've readed it entirely kkathman ... and it was not enough infos to me ...
[08:05] <kkathman> bl3ssing: it spells it out, my friend...what part didnt you understand?
[08:05] <bl3ssing> but ... I've tried to copy one file downloaded on linux, to any of the fat32 partitions and ... I coudln't do it ... :-(
[08:05] <LjL> bl3ssing: then tell us what was missing that didn't let you complete the task, please
[08:05] <JakubS> hm, apt-get update reports MD5 checksum error on 'universe' repository
[08:06] <kkathman> each and every step is documented :)
[08:06] <JakubS> anyone else gets that or it is my local problem?
[08:06] <LjL> bl3ssing: "i couldn't do it" isn't very informative ;-) what error did you get? what happened?
[08:06] <Benix> hi everyone
[08:06] <bl3ssing> Lol kkathman ... The entire doc was understandable ... it was only that there's been no main subject I'm interested on.
[08:06] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:06] <bl3ssing> k
[08:06] <bl3ssing> I'll try doing this right now, ok, LjL ?
[08:06] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:06] <LjL> JakubS: your problem, but then i'm probably using different mirrors
[08:06] <bl3ssing> one sec. pls.
[08:06] <kkathman> bl3ssing: I dont think anyone could explain the linux-window accessibility any better Im afraid
[08:08] <Benix> does kubuntu automatically activate (3d) fglrx [nvidia] ?
[08:09] <bsdboy> fglrx is a ATI driver..
[08:09] <kkathman> LjL: hehe
[08:10] <Benix> ups, i used the brackets the wrong way ^^
[08:11] <_alex> hello
[08:11] <_alex> how does this work?
[08:11] <_alex> can anyone see this?
[08:12] <LjL> _axel: uuuh... yes...?
[08:12] <_alex> I was wondering how do you
[08:12] <_alex> install skype
[08:12] <LjL> !skype
[08:12] <_alex> new to kubuntu
[08:12] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:12] <_alex> how about freenx
[08:12] <_alex> ?
[08:14] <_alex> I tried to add
[08:15] <_alex> seaves package
[08:15] <bl3ssing> I'm sceptic ... kkathman ... about your oppinion and ... a little bit dissapointed of you. Why are you neglating the other STARS? :-.
[08:15] <_alex> but says it doesn't exist
[08:15] <_alex> I meant repo
[08:15] <bl3ssing> kkathman, how can I access my /home/marius/ windows ... not from the konsole ... but directly ...
[08:15] <bl3ssing> I want to see my /home/marius/ folder and I can't cause it is appearing the OpenWith Windows and I don't need it ...
[08:15] <bl3ssing> I think kopete can do what you said that it can't do it ... kkathman! I've tried with a friend of mine and ... he send me mssgs while I was not connected on yahoo and ... it is working. Tm_T/Ljl (?!) had right about the kopete. The messages are saved to the sever and therefrom ... when I'm online again, I'll receive them and they will still be there ...
[08:15] <bl3ssing> that's amazing ...
[08:15] <kkathman> bl3ssing: excuse me?
[08:15] <bl3ssing> I'll just need to find another 2 important things for me and ... if i'll find them, I'll surely quit with WinXp
[08:15] <bl3ssing> and I'll have more partitions on Linux.
[08:15] <bl3ssing> but ... until than ... I'll need to find more things about those 2 imp. things ... I've mentioned above.
[08:15] <_alex> curious to talk to any previous mandrake users
[08:15] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:15] <Tm_T> bl3ssing: what? can't do what?
[08:15] <bl3ssing> LjL, I will tell you what you asked me about but ... I can't get into the /home/marius/ directory ... :-(
[08:15] <_alex> anyone a use mandriva
[08:15] <_alex> ?
[08:16] <bl3ssing> Tm_T, can save the offline messages
[08:16] <kkathman> bl3ssing: if you dont like my advice, then quit asking..and I'll just put you on ignore.
[08:16] <Tm_T> yu
[08:16] <bl3ssing> isn't this wonderful?
[08:16] <Tm_T> nah
[08:16] <bl3ssing> kkathman, I've never said I don't like your advices. I am really excited about what you said to me and I'm glad because of your kindness
[08:16] <JakubS> LjL: yeah, changed mirrors and all is ok
[08:16] <bl3ssing> ok kkathman ... if you missunderstood than this is your pb.
[08:17] <AlexRM> Hello,
[08:17] <kkathman> JakubS: excellent
[08:17] <_alex> hi
[08:17] <AlexRM> what other alternatives are there to X?
[08:17] <_alex> alex
[08:17] <AlexRM> Hi _alex
[08:17] <AlexRM> :)
[08:17] <_alex> :)
[08:17] <_alex> have you used mandriva?
[08:17] <kkathman> AlexRM: well there is CLI
[08:17] <bl3ssing> but ... I'm very thankfully to you and not only, but to everybody in this channel cause you guys are very helpfully not only to me, but to everyone is in every need ...
[08:17] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:17] <AlexRM> _alex, I used to use Mandrake 10.1
[08:17] <_alex> how does it compare
[08:17] <_alex> ?
[08:17] <bl3ssing> kkathman, quit being a child ... it is not diserve being like this. :
[08:17] <_alex> to kubuntu
[08:18] <kkathman> Mandriva isnt anywhere near as easy to install and use as (k)ubuntu
[08:18] <_alex> using 2005 and 20006 has been somewhat of a nightmare
[08:18] <AlexRM> to Kubuntu? I prefer Kubuntu because of it's support and some features, but I prefer Mandrake (well, mandriva) for it's ease of use....but Kubuntu isnot that hard to use
[08:18] <_alex> do you prefer
[08:18] <kkathman> I trashed mandrake/mandriva very quickly
[08:18] <_alex> ubuntu or kubuntu
[08:18] <_alex> and why..
[08:18] <_alex> just curious
[08:19] <kkathman> bad packaged too
[08:19] <AlexRM> kkathman,  I only used it for about, 1-2 months
[08:19] <kkathman> yah
[08:19] <AlexRM> _alex, Kubuntu...don't like Gnome :P
[08:19] <kkathman> me...shorter than that
[08:19] <_alex> hehe
[08:19] <_alex> understood
[08:19] <_alex> it seems much faster
[08:19] <_alex> than my mandriva
[08:19] <_alex> 2006
[08:19] <_alex> why?
[08:19] <kkathman> I liked Libranet more than Mandriva...but Libranet had bad packages
[08:19] <AlexRM> _alex, don't ask me! im a noob at linux :P
[08:19] <_alex> :)
[08:19] <_alex> no prob
[08:20] <_alex> I was paying for club
[08:20] <_alex> but no benifit
[08:20] <_alex> couldn't download dvd
[08:20] <_alex> took 3 weeks
[08:20] <_alex> total
[08:20] <AlexRM> :S
[08:20] <_alex> and then it was bad
[08:20] <_alex> kubuntu
[08:20] <_alex> seems to work
[08:20] <_alex> very very
[08:20] <_alex> well
[08:20] <_alex> one question
[08:20] <_alex> how easy is it to update
[08:20] <_alex> after you change
[08:20] <AlexRM> in Kubuntu?
[08:20] <_alex> repository
[08:20] <_alex> yes
[08:21] <_alex> I did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:21] <_alex> and everything
[08:21] <_alex> still works
[08:21] <_alex> guess I am not used to that
[08:21] <kkathman> _alex:  yanno you can put more than 2-3 words on a line in IRC
[08:21] <_alex> so I am wondering if I did it right
[08:21] <AlexRM> I just go to Adept, select which packages I want and off it goes! .... I tend not to compile things cos im cursed with compiling :P
[08:21] <_alex> sorry
[08:21] <_alex> :)
[08:21] <kkathman> lol
[08:21] <_alex> thx!
[08:21] <_alex> how dependable are updates?
[08:22] <_alex> no proprietary drivers installed on desktops
[08:22] <kkathman> AlexRM: compiling is ok once you get the right things installed :)
[08:22] <_alex> thinking of using it for school ltsp server
[08:22] <apachelogger> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/441285 <-- any ideas how to fix?
[08:22] <AlexRM> kkathman, true...but half the time the errors I get no one has ever seen before
[08:22] <_alex> example?
[08:22] <AlexRM> _alex, an example error?
[08:22] <_alex> yes
[08:22] <_alex> anything
[08:22] <AlexRM> im not on Kubuntu atm
[08:22] <_alex> that will break the system?
[08:23] <_alex> such as going form hoary to breezy
[08:23] <AlexRM> never done it
[08:23] <AlexRM> lol, im no linux master....better to ask someone else really
[08:23] <kkathman> apachelogger: maybe that libxslt is missing maybe?
[08:23] <_alex> I am very good with linux
[08:23] <_alex> just new to debian
[08:23] <apachelogger> kkathman: nope it's there I think
[08:23] <_alex> rpm distros are about to drive me crazy!
[08:23] <_alex> my mandriva will not update
[08:24] <_alex> no matter what I do...
[08:24] <AlexRM> _alex, ahh, lol ... I have no idea what packages Kubuntu uses
[08:24] <kkathman> _alex: my upgrade from hoary to breezy was flawless
[08:24] <_alex> so was mine
[08:24] <_alex> that is why I wondered if something went wrong
[08:24] <kkathman> the updates work very well
[08:24] <kkathman> if its goes wrong, you fix it
[08:24] <kkathman> lol
[08:25] <_alex> :)
[08:25] <_alex> freenx
[08:25] <_alex> can someone please please help me on this
[08:25] <kkathman> whats the prob?
[08:26] <_alex> where do I get the repository?
[08:26] <bl3ssing> LjL, are you there? cause kkathma... don't want to help me anymore ... :-(
[08:26] <kkathman> !repos
[08:26] <_alex> :)
[08:26] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:27] <yannz> so, anyone tried Lirc in kubuntu?
[08:27] <kkathman> Lirc?
[08:27] <_alex> how did you type that so quick
[08:27] <bl3ssing> he didn't type it ... the ubotu is a robot.
[08:27] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:27] <kkathman> _alex: lts an infobot
[08:27] <bl3ssing> _alex,
[08:27] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:27] <bl3ssing> it is a bot
[08:27] <_alex> what is that?
[08:27] <bl3ssing> heheeh
[08:27] <yannz> kkathman: yeah, serial infrared remote :)
[08:27] <_alex> never been on irc
[08:28] <AlexRM> it's a very nice bot....he doesn't even need walking!
[08:28] <_alex> till
[08:28] <kkathman> hehe
[08:28] <kkathman> infobot has keywords you give it and it tells you things on that factoid
[08:28] <_alex> wow?
[08:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell _alex about ubotu
[08:29] <AlexRM> ubotu: tell AlexRM about ubotu
[08:29] <AlexRM> I wanna see Lol :P
[08:29] <_alex> so who is the bot?
[08:29] <robotgeek> kkathman: i'm back
[08:29] <AlexRM> its not
[08:29] <AlexRM> it's a boy
[08:29] <kkathman> hey robotgeek :)
[08:29] <AlexRM> bot*
[08:29] <robotgeek> _alex: i'm not a bot
[08:29] <fevoldj2> Hi
[08:29] <fevoldj2> how do I configure webmin?
[08:29] <kkathman> robotgeek is as smart as our bots, but he's not a bot
[08:30] <fevoldj2> I tried dpkg-reconfigure webmin, but that doesn't allow to change or even see what port it runs on
[08:30] <kkathman> fevoldj2: its home page?
[08:30] <_alex> fevoldj2
[08:30] <_alex> it is in etc/webmin/mini.conf
[08:30] <_alex> you can change port there
[08:30] <JakubS> what is difference between flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla packages?
[08:30] <fevoldj2> thanks
[08:30] <kkathman> fevoldj2: webmin.com
[08:31] <bl3ssing> hello
[08:31] <robotgeek> JakubS: first one is from macromedia, and is closed source. second is is gplflash
[08:31] <bl3ssing> anybody there?
[08:31] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:31] <kkathman> greets hussam :)
[08:32] <bl3ssing> robotgeek, can you watch me? I'm dancing and eating AIR!
[08:32] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:32] <bl3ssing> =)))))
[08:32] <_alex> so who is the robot?
[08:32] <robotgeek> bl3ssing: hmm, i am eating
[08:32] <kkathman> ubotu
[08:32] <sophie_> bl3ssing: dacing AIR wtf
[08:32] <bl3ssing> lol
[08:32] <fevoldj2> And how do I make a new user?  I've installed a lots of softwares since I've started my ocmputer, and I've never had to restart my computer, and it is perfectly working. How comes ... that? In windows ... you'll have a lot of pbs ... :-(
[08:33] <JakubS> robotgeek: last time i checked gplflash was capable of playing almost nothing so i guess macromedia one for me
[08:33] <kkathman> pussfeller: cd mounted?
[08:33] <bl3ssing> so ... the linux OS's the best
[08:33] <bl3ssing> :-)
[08:34] <fevoldj2> Yes sophie_?
[08:34] <_alex> big question
[08:34] <pussfeller> kkathman: clicking on the icon is supposed to mount it right?
[08:34] <_alex> does anyone no how to cnotrol media startup
[08:34] <_alex> in kubuntu
[08:34] <_alex> ?
[08:34] <JakubS> bl3ssing: i would say the same thing if i only could get suspend working
[08:34] <sophie_> fevoldj2: add adduser
[08:34] <kkathman> pussfeller: I actually dont know, but it should be listed under /mnt:  as cdrom prolly
[08:34] <_alex> I mean
[08:34] <_alex> determine what program
[08:34] <fevoldj2> I mean for webmin sophie
[08:34] <_alex> starts when I put in a cd
[08:35] <robotgeek> JakubS: if it doesn't work for you, file a bug. meantime, if you are not a purist, use the macromedia one
[08:35] <pussfeller> i tried mount but it says mount: not a directory
[08:35] <sophie_> fevoldj2: oops sorry
[08:35] <JakubS> robotgeek: i'm not a purist, i just need nice and working system
[08:35] <bl3ssing> I'm trying to make a new folder on my desktop. Than ...  I want to access it but I cannot since it is apearing the Open With Window ...
[08:35] <pussfeller> but the cd works, its not degraded, i opened it in windows just now
[08:35] <bl3ssing> what can I do to fix this ...?
[08:35] <robotgeek> JakubS: :)
[08:35] <_alex> please help
[08:35] <_alex> hot do you control program media startup
[08:36] <_alex> put in dvd, and I want to start vlc instead of kaffiene
[08:36] <kkathman> pussfeller:  what happens in a konsole when you do a cd / and an ls -l   do you see cdrom there?
[08:37] <fevoldj2> Hmm I just blocked myself from webmin =\
[08:37] <kkathman> pussfeller: it might be a symlink to /media/cdrom
[08:37] <pussfeller> kkathman: yeah i have a symlink
[08:38] <pussfeller> but thats to the dvd player, cdrom0
[08:38] <kkathman> ahh
[08:38] <_alex> anyone know
[08:38] <kkathman> pussfeller: maybe you need to create a mountpoint then mount it manually then
[08:38] <JakubS> omg, i wonder why installing mplayer has to pull xmms too
[08:38] <fevoldj2> _alex do you know how to add a user?
[08:38] <pussfeller> kkathman: yeah, the dvd player cdrom works, but not the second one
[08:38] <_alex> yes
[08:39] <_alex> using webmin?
[08:39] <fevoldj2> Well I cannot logon to webmin
[08:39] <_alex> use root and root passwd
[08:39] <pussfeller> kkathman: how do i make the mountpoint?
[08:39] <Belutz> hi all, just wondering, is adept manager is only available in kubuntu?
[08:39] <kkathman> pussfeller: look at this...this will help I hope: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2help/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.db2.udb.doc/start/t0006753.htm
[08:39] <pussfeller> should i symlink cdrom1
[08:39] <fevoldj2> I never set a root password.. root and my sudo password doesn't work
[08:40] <_alex> you have to set root passwd
[08:40] <_alex> command is: sudo passwd
[08:40] <JakubS> Belutz: konsole and apt-get is still available
[08:40] <Belutz> JakubS, no, i mean is adept manager also available on other distros like knoppix?
[08:40] <fevoldj2> Hmm I set a root password didn't work
[08:41] <_alex> login to webmin using root
[08:41] <_alex> then passwd
[08:41] <fevoldj2> Yes I know, that doesn't work, login fails
[08:41] <jjesse> did you enable root?
[08:41] <_alex> did you sudo passwd
[08:41] <_alex> yes I did
[08:41] <_alex> you have to enable root
[08:41] <fevoldj2> oh okay
[08:41] <fevoldj2> sorry
[08:41] <_alex> using sudo passwd
[08:42] <fevoldj2> Okay I enabled root with sudo passwd, do I need to restart webmin now?
[08:43] <fevoldj2> Hmm I set the password for root, restarted admin, but it still doesn't accept it.
[08:43] <fevoldj2> webmin*
[08:44] <knuellesau> huhu
[08:45] <knuellesau> was tummelt sich hier denn so?
[08:45] <_alex> restart webmin
[08:45] <fevoldj2> I just did that
[08:45] <fevoldj2> =\
[08:45] <mth`MAW> Nabend
[08:46] <hussam> anybody's good with openoffice?
[08:46] <hussam> I want to know how I can add a trendline to a chart plot in openoffice calc. Also how do I tell the equation of that trendline?
[08:46] <mth`MAW> damn
[08:46] <mth`MAW> Wrong channel
[08:46] <mth`MAW> good evening
[08:46] <mth`MAW> :)
[08:46] <knuellesau> salut sophie. francaise?
[08:47] <knuellesau> wir machen nun einen bescheuerten chatroom aus dem kanal...
[08:47] <robotgeek> !fr
[08:48] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:48] <JakubS> uh, kmenu is kinda messed up
[08:48] <JakubS> qt designer went into 'lost&found' instead of 'development'
[08:48] <knuellesau> aber sophie ist doch FR, da kann an doch mal salut sagen...
[08:49] <kkathman> knuellesau: English only please here
[08:49] <knuellesau> why? don't you speak german? :-P
[08:49] <kkathman> because this is an english channel :)
[08:50] <kkathman> lol
[08:50] <knuellesau> english is a language for farmers, isn't it?
[08:50] <nalioth> knuellesau: please be civil
[08:51] <_alex> any way to remove xmms
[08:51] <hussam> _alex: sudo dpkg -r xmms
[08:51] <_alex> without removing mencoder
[08:52] <bl3ssing> where can I find a very friendly and nice irc program? I have this XChat, but I don't like the interface ... I want something very nice ...
[08:52] <nalioth> bl3ssing: i think the nicest is irssi
[08:52] <knuellesau> i just wanna say: i'm very new to (k)ubuntu... and it's great (coming from mandriva, which i found the best distri, till i tried kubuntu)
[08:52] <_alex> wouldn't that remove xmms
[08:53] <_alex> I too am coming from mandriva
[08:53] <_alex> too many problems
[08:53] <_alex> after working with it for 4 years
[08:53] <_alex>  now
[08:53] <_alex> seems a mess
[08:53] <_alex> hussam
[08:53] <_alex> will that remove my mencoder?
[08:54] <bl3ssing> thanks nalioth ... God bless you. I'm installing it right now to check it ... Hope it will be what I'd love ...
[08:54] <nalioth> bl3ssing: it should be installed already, open a konsole and type 'irssi'
[08:55] <bl3ssing> there was redhat before and ... I used that irc program (don't rememeber the name of it) ... but I'ven't been using redhat only for 1-2 months ...before. :-)
[08:55] <knuellesau> i tried kubuntu, because i had a few problems with my thinkpad. i have to say: thinkpad and kubuntu: just good friends :-)
[08:56] <hussam> _alex: I guess yes
[08:56] <bl3ssing> nalioth,  ... it isn't working. isn't that Irssi an irc soft as XChat? but with a nicer interface?
[08:57] <knuellesau> the wireless lan connection works well, if the ap is not in wpa mode. dby the way: does anyone know, if the wlan module of kubuntu can handle wpa-secured connections? i only found the settings for wep...
[08:58] <crimsun> knuellesau: no, you need to use wpasupplicant
[08:59] <knuellesau> thanks, i'll check it out
[08:59] <bl3ssing> where can I find a very friendly and nice irc program? I have this XChat, but I don't like the interface ... I want something very nice ...
[09:00] <_alex> hussam any way to take it off without doing that
[09:00] <_alex> ?
[09:01] <jjesse> bl3ssing: have you tried konversation?
[09:01] <robotgeek> or kvirc
[09:01] <yannz> say, how do i compile my own modules in kubuntu? I wanna get lirc-kernel-modules..
[09:01] <kkathman> kvirc rocks!
[09:01] <knuellesau> if someone looks for a notebook these days, which is compatible with kubuntu: i have to recommend thinkpad. opengl works fine with the firegl v3200, having installed the ati driver from ati.com. powersaving works fine, suspend-to-disk works fine,...
[09:02] <knuellesau> what are the experiences of other notebook users with kubuntu?
[09:03] <jjesse> knuellesau: i'm using a dell inspiron 5150
[09:03] <jjesse> knuellesau: and have no issues
[09:03] <knuellesau> graphics onboard or nvidia module?
[09:03] <jjesse> knuellesau: you can find more details at wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:03] <bl3ssing> nope jjesse ... but I'll try it now.
[09:03] <bl3ssing> :-)
[09:03] <jjesse> knuellesau: nvidia module
[09:04] <jjesse> knuellesau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron5150
[09:04] <nalioth> bl3ssing: irssi is a VERY configurable console irc client. perhaps you'd like kvirc instead of whatever you're using now
[09:04] <knuellesau> my desktop has also nvidia (6600gt). also no issues.
[09:04] <_marius> hello blessing
[09:04] <_marius> how're you?
[09:04] <_marius> :-)
[09:05] <pussfeller> you used to be able to run mirc in wine :)
[09:06] <bl3ssing> nalioth, I've never use a such of configurable console irc client and I'm out of it. :-(
[09:06] <bl3ssing> I'll try now kvirc. Thank you.
[09:06] <sophie___> bl3ssing: irssi is the best irc client for the console and I've tried them all, it is the most usefriendly just need to learn three or four command at first
[09:06] <bl3ssing> I'm fine _marius thanks.
[09:06] <bl3ssing> really sophie?
[09:06] <bl3ssing> but I want to have a nice interface too ...
[09:07] <bl3ssing> you know ... like linux has with kde/gnome ... :-)
[09:07] <bl3ssing> not only a konsole
[09:07] <_marius> what do you need bl3ssing? an irc?
[09:07] <knuellesau> i know this is off-topic, but does anyone know if you can install photoshop -- running via wine on linux -- in other directories as the home of the current user?
[09:07] <sophie___> bl3ssing: u want gui?
[09:07] <_marius> why not trying kvirc as nalioth is saying?
[09:07] <_marius> :-)
[09:07] <yannz> bl3ssing: konversation is really good, though.
[09:07] <sophie___> bl3ssing: than have a look at xchat (I'm going to get killed here)
[09:07] <bl3ssing> sophie__, what is gui?
[09:08] <bl3ssing> LOL sophie__
[09:08] <bl3ssing> :-)
[09:08] <sophie___> Graphical user interface
[09:08] <LjL> sophie__: he's using it already
[09:08] <knuellesau> graphical user interface
[09:08] <LjL> sophie__: and i'm certainly not killing you, x-chat is nice
[09:08] <bl3ssing> yeap, I want a gui program to use ...
[09:08] <bl3ssing> :-)
[09:08] <pussfeller> what most people think of when they think, computer program
[09:08] <bl3ssing> I'm chatting right now from X-chat...
[09:08] <bl3ssing> and it is pretty good
[09:08] <jjesse> you didn't like konverstation?
[09:08] <bl3ssing> but ... I don't like the interface... it is just like a very old linux ... :-(
[09:08] <bl3ssing> nope jjesse ... it is the same as x-chat.
[09:08] <bl3ssing> I'm trying now kvirc ... :-)
[09:08] <nalioth> bl3ssing: try kvirc
[09:08] <bl3ssing> hoping it will be nice. :-)
[09:09] <bl3ssing> sure nalioth ... installing it now.:-)
[09:09] <sophie___> kvirc was unstable onmy system, but dont take my words
[09:09] <nalioth> sophie___: kvirc, imho should be used from cvs
[09:09] <knuellesau> photoshop via wine... other directories than home? does anyone know?
[09:10] <LjL> bl3ssing: i'm not sure what you mean with x-chat looking like an old linux... it's the same user interface as all the other Gnome programs you're using
[09:10] <sophie___> nalioth: anyway im now using irssi 99% of the time especially from work thru ssh, irc is blocked at work!
[09:10] <LjL> the best IRC client is telnet
[09:10] <knuellesau> photoshop?
[09:11] <knuellesau> wine?
[09:11] <knuellesau> not in home?
[09:11] <knuellesau> who knows?
[09:11] <sophie___> LjL: WTF?
[09:11] <LjL> yeah
[09:11] <LjL> you can do ANYTHING you want from it
[09:11] <LjL> it's got commands for everything
[09:12] <knuellesau> who?
[09:12] <LjL> telnet :)
[09:12] <sophie___> LjL: Telent is dangerous use ssh
[09:12] <LjL> sophie__: for connecting to irc? don't think that'll work, sorry
[09:12] <bl3ssing> LjL,  ... I mean that I woudl like to be a very nice gui the soft I'll use it ...
[09:12] <knuellesau> guy?
[09:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: yeah, but i don't see how X-Chat has a bad gui...
[09:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: and, actually, i think Red Hat *comes* with X-Chat, though i'm not really sure
[09:13] <kkathman> LjL: X-Chat is the standard one in the standard ubuntu under Gnome :)
[09:14] <kkathman> at least the default graphical one
[09:14] <LjL> kkathman: 'course, but he said he saw a "nicer" one in red hat
[09:14] <kkathman> prolly kvirc...its the nicest looking one..but I had to get the cvs and compile it
[09:14] <bl3ssing> nalioth, where it is the kvirc installed cause I have to find the directory ... :-(
[09:14] <kkathman> thats what I use now LjL
[09:15] <LjL> i should try the other two kde clients someday
[09:15] <knuellesau> i have an issue with kubuntu at work: integration in active directory. while joining the domain by net ads join blabla... works fine, i'm not able to login with a domain user account. has anyone experienced (and solved) the same problem?
[09:15] <nalioth> bl3ssing: look in the menu under 'internet'
[09:16] <kkathman> k
[09:18] <LjL> bl3ssing: and if it's not there, it'll probably be next time you log in. in the meanwhile, if you don't want to re-login, it'll probably be inside /usr/bin, as most programs
[09:19] <_alex> one more time
[09:20] <_alex> does anyone know how to choose what program starts up when you insert a dvd or music cd?  I would like to choose it myself.
[09:21] <LjL2> by the way, here is what i meant with using telnet for IRC
[09:22] <LjL> _alex: i think it's peripherals / storage media
[09:22] <LjL2> you just have to remember to answer the pings in time
[09:22] <kkathman> LjL2 it automatically boots you right?
[09:23] <LjL> kkathman: if i don't reply to the pings in time? yeah
[09:23] <_alex> LJL what about config file?
[09:23] <LjL> _alex: no idea
[09:25] <Obsidians> My Firefox Downloads window doesn't seem to show things that are being downloaded. What's up with that?
[09:27] <Stele> are the things you are downloading being downloaded on that computer?
[09:27] <Stele> (obvious question)
[09:27] <Stele> :)
[09:28] <_alex> so noone knows how to choose what program starts up on media insert?
[09:28] <kkathman> Obsidians: its possible that you might be running a firewall that is blocking the download?
[09:28] <kkathman> _alex: try Uncle Google...maybe he can give you a hint?
[09:28] <Obsidians> Stele and kkathman: No no, they're still downloading fine. It just doesn't show them in the window anymore, for some reason.
[09:28] <Stele> i was just being a smartass
[09:29] <Stele> :)
[09:29] <Stele> sorry
[09:29] <_alex> been there
[09:29] <_alex> done that
[09:29] <_alex> no longer a relative :)
[09:29] <kkathman> Obsidians: hmm. go to the preferences, and be sure that the "Show download manager" is checked appropriately?
[09:30] <kkathman> Obsidians: I believe there is a check box there that has to be checked to pop up that box and show the progress
[09:31] <Obsidians> kkathman: Yep, and the manager does come up. It's just that there's no text in the box. You know, where it usually gives the progress and the open/remove buttons and such.
[09:32] <Obsidians> Stele: No problem, man. Boredom happens.
[09:32] <kkathman> Obsidians: hmm.. very odd.  I dont use firefox myself, but dont know what might cause that phenomenon
[09:32] <kkathman> it should show the progress as you suggest
[09:33] <Obsidians> kkathman: Ah well then, I'll just not worry about it. I am on Dapper, which has Deer Park so maybe it's just a new release issue of some kind that'll fix itself.
[09:36] <yannz> which packages do i need to compile my kernel?
[09:38] <kkathman> Obsidians: I just tried it in my system and I got the box and it showed the progress
[09:38] <LjL> yannz: linux-source
[09:38] <kkathman> Obsidians: Dapper is kinda bleeding edge, so that could be your problem
[09:39] <yannz> LjL: i did, but it wount compile.
[09:39] <LjL> yannz: what's the problem then
[09:39] <Stele> you have gcc and the required gcc stuff?
[09:41] <yannz> oh, maybe not.
[09:41] <yannz> the kernel needs 3.3?
[09:41] <Stele> the latest uses 3.4
[09:41] <LjL> yannz: don't think it does
[09:41] <CarstenP> I have a canoscan 3000 ex (flatbed-scanner usb2) what do i have to install to get him to work? Sane? Cups? Swat?
[09:41] <yannz> i really just need the source, so that i can compile a module for my lirc-remote.
[09:41] <CarstenP> or in other words, will the scanner work?
[09:41] <Stele> have you plugged it in and tried it?
[09:42] <Stele> no that would be insane
[09:42] <CarstenP> Stele: are you talking to me?
[09:42] <LjL> CarstenP: it will probably work with sane
[09:42] <Stele> im just rambling
[09:42] <LjL> CarstenP: they have a list of compatible scanners on their site
[09:42] <bl3ssing> I'm on kvirc and I would like to come to the kubuntu channel. what kind of server do i need to get connect to ... ? I don't know ...
[09:43] <LjL> CarstenP: i don't know what swat is, but as for CUPS, it doesn't have anything to do with scanners
[09:43] <LjL> bl3ssing: irc.freenode.org
[09:43] <CarstenP> it is plugged in, but under XP i had to start a software to start the scanning, it has no ON / OFF switch :)
[09:43] <Stele> so USB scanners DONT just work when you plug them in?
[09:43] <LjL> Stele: you wish :)
[09:43] <Stele> like Photoshop or other that has a TWAIN interface?
[09:43] <CarstenP> Stele: he is and ever was plugged in.
[09:44] <CarstenP> Stele: TWAIN, correct. The name i forgot. in was a small tool, whithout a important name i think. TWAIN
[09:44] <LjL> CarstenP: i'm afraid you're out of luck
[09:44] <LjL> CarstenP: your scanner model appears to not be supported by SANE
[09:45] <LjL> CarstenP: http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-CANON
[09:45] <bl3ssing> nalioth, I'm on kvirc ...
[09:45] <bl3ssing> :-)
[09:46] <bl3ssing> why can't I connect on irc.freenode.org? I want to get inside of #kubuntu but I can't...
[09:46] <bl3ssing> :-(
[09:46] <LjL> bl3ssing: you can't connect to the server, or you can't join #kubuntu?
[09:46] <bl3ssing> can't connect to the server
[09:46] <bl3ssing> :-(
[09:46] <LjL> bl3ssing: what is it telling you?
[09:46] <CarstenP> what does gl660 based mean? is that some sort of chip?
[09:47] <LjL> CarstenP: probably, or a protocol name
[09:47] <bl3ssing> Ljl ... http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/441384
[09:48] <LjL> bl3ssing: i think you typed "kubuntu" instead of "#kubuntu"...
[09:48] <LjL> bl3ssing: and it appears that you *are* connected to the server
[09:48] <kkathman> LOL
[09:48] <kkathman> like right here :)
[09:48] <kkathman> haha
[09:49] <kindn3ss> cool
[09:49] <kindn3ss> this is me, bl3ssing. :-)
[09:49] <kkathman> LjL: yah he's in here now under that name :)
[09:49] <kindn3ss> LjL: I got it.
[09:49] <kkathman> haha
[09:49] <kindn3ss> I;m on kvirc ...
[09:49] <kindn3ss> that's amazing ...
[09:49] <kindn3ss> it is a very friendly irc program... and I love it.
[09:49] <kindn3ss> :-)
[09:49] <sophie___> anyone know how to configure media keys on keyboard
[09:50] <LjL> wow, love at first sight
[09:50] <kindn3ss> lol
[09:50] <LjL> sophie__: i think i do
[09:50] <kindn3ss> nope .. not really cause my love at the first time was Norma ... and I love her ... still and forever. :-)
[09:50] <kkathman> LjL: he thinks that version is good, he should get the Marmalade version like I compiled :)
[09:50] <sophie___> LjL: please tell me
[09:50] <kkathman> LjL: Im interested in this too :)
[09:50] <LjL> sophie__: well, you probably know most programs have a "Configure shortcuts" menu (and there is also the system-wide Regional / Keyboard shortcuts)
[09:50] <kindn3ss> kkathman: ... what's the Marmalade program about?
[09:50] <kindn3ss> :-)
[09:51] <sophie___> LjL: ok got it was not using the right keyboard in kde
[09:51] <LjL> sophie__: however, you'll probably not be able to use multimedia keys there, by default
[09:51] <LjL> sophie__: correct, you have to change the keyboard layout
[09:51] <kkathman> kindn3ss: http://www.kvirc.net/
[09:52] <LjL> sophie__, kkathman: under "Keyboard model", choose your keyboard, or if it isn't there, try a few. you'll probably find something that works (at least with some keys) after a while
[09:52] <kkathman> LjL: will try that thanks
[09:54] <sophie___> LjL: got itworking media keyboard with amarok what a wining combination
[09:54] <LjL> sophie__: should probably assign the volume keys to KMix, as well
[09:55] <sophie___> LjL: I did nothing to bind keys it worked out of the box
[09:55] <LjL> sophie__: cool
[09:57] <sophie___> who uses katapulp
[09:58] <kkathman> katapult?
[09:58] <sophie___> kkathman: katapult yep
[09:59] <LjL> kkathman: alt+space
[09:59] <kkathman> sophie__: I used to, but found its not much better than alt-f2
[09:59] <LjL> yeah, currently, don't think it's that powerful
[09:59] <LjL> could be handy though, if it was a little smarter
[09:59] <kkathman> you have to start it first, using alt-f2 and type katapult...then it forever runs
[09:59] <sophie___> kkathman: well its got completions + bookmarks
[09:59] <kkathman> LjL: Agree
[09:59] <LjL> i'd like some sort of natural language recognition in it
[10:00] <kkathman> sophie__: yes.. well completions arent too bad..but its doesnt know everything you have either
[10:00] <sophie___> LjL: give me an example
[10:00] <sophie___> LjL: like open my favorite mp2
[10:00] <sophie___> LjL: or I feel like porn tonight
[10:00] <LjL> sophie__: "write an email", "find blah.mp3", "check for updates"
[10:00] <LjL> yeah that's the idea :)
[10:01] <sophie___> LjL: hide browser from wife
[10:01] <LjL> not rocket science, bots have been doing this kind of thing for ages
[10:01] <LjL> heh
[10:01] <bl3ssing> how can I change the background color of the channel #kubuntu in kvirc? does anybody know about ...? :-)
[10:02] <kkathman> bl3ssing: try Help...its a good read :)
[10:03] <bl3ssing> I've pressed on the help link but ... the help windows isn't it appearing. Why not? :-(
[10:03] <kkathman> bl3ssing: for starters, how about trying Settings -> Configure KVIRC?
[10:03] <kkathman> my help works fine :)
[10:04] <kkathman> course I have the cvs version :)
[10:05] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:05] <bl3ssing> do you have the kvirc ... ?
[10:05] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:05] <bl3ssing> isn't it a nice one? :-)
[10:05] <kkathman> I have the latest cvs version
[10:05] <bl3ssing> I have forgot about the irc i used before ... years ago ...that irc was the best I've ever seen ...
[10:05] <bl3ssing> oh, I see.
[10:05] <kkathman> if it was Windows, it was probably mIRC
[10:06] <bl3ssing> is this cvs version available through the adept ?
[10:06] <kkathman> its the ONLY good IRC program on Windows
[10:06] <bl3ssing> nooooooooooo, it was in RedHat ... i guess ... not sure.
[10:06] <kkathman> bl3ssing: no.. you have to download the cvs code and compile it
[10:06] <bl3ssing> in windows I used WarMaster .. that was the best (my oppinion)
[10:06] <sophie___> kkathman: xchat is available for windows
[10:07] <kkathman> sophie__: yah...I rest my case...mIRC is the only good iRC program on Windows :)
[10:07] <bl3ssing> how can I compile a file, by the way ... in linux, of course. :-)
[10:07] <Mitja> Is there a command to tell me which sound drivers should I install?
[10:07] <Mitja> When I installed OS, it detected it perfectly, but then I uninstalled something and don't know how to get it back.
[10:08] <kkathman> bl3ssing: make sure you have all the compilation tools, download the application source, ./configure make and checkinstall
[10:08] <LjL> he's gone :)
[10:08] <kkathman> LjL: I somehow think he isnt off reading
[10:09] <bhna> Mitja: uninstall somethink? what?
[10:09] <newbie_> kl
[10:09] <LjL> 22:08]  <kkathman> bl3ssing: make sure you have all the compilation tools, download the application source, ./configure make and checkinstall
[10:09] <Mitja> bhna: Is there apt uinstallation log?
[10:10] <kkathman> thanks LjL :)
[10:10] <kkathman> ^5
[10:10] <bl3ssing> :)
[10:10] <kkathman> hey l3m :)
[10:10] <bl3ssing> but ... I don't like htis kvirc either. It was another one.
[10:10] <bl3ssing> Does anybody know about a very nice graphical user interface irc prorgam ...?
[10:10] <LjL> bl3ssing: was that red hat a red hat you installed yourself, or was it someone else's computer?
[10:11] <bl3ssing> it was mine ... but maybe 4-5 years ago. Since than I've never used linux. :))
[10:11] <LjL> bl3ssing: look, everyone will be giving a different advice to you... different people prefer different programs (that's why there *are* different programs)
[10:11] <bhna> Mitja: don't know.
[10:11] <l3m> i'm trying to get tvout to work on a f&%*% ati card. i installed fglrx drivers, but the image on the tv is always black//white,. any ideas?
[10:11] <LjL> bl3ssing: so, why not just "apt-cache search irc | grep IRC"?
[10:12] <l3m> bl3ssing: konversation
[10:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: i'm pretty sure that the Red Hat irc client used to be X-Chat, and a google search is confirming that
[10:13] <kkathman> l3m: what you dont like 1950's television?
[10:13] <bl3ssing> where should I type this .. LjL?
[10:13] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: do you have Gnome installed?
[10:13] <bl3ssing> nope
[10:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: in a terminal, obviously
[10:13] <l3m> kkathman: hehe. not when i wanna watch some crappy cgi monster movie ;)
[10:13] <LjL> bl3ssing: if you don't have Gnome installed, X-Chat will probably look bad. and yet, it's the same program you used in Red Hat
[10:13] <kkathman> LjL: I know the RedHat irc was X-Chat
[10:14] <kkathman> yep
[10:14] <bl3ssing> really?
[10:14] <bl3ssing> well ... could this be the reason I don't like it ..? I think so... :-)
[10:14] <bl3ssing> I'll find one ...
[10:14] <bl3ssing> anyway, I love Linux.
[10:14] <bl3ssing> it is wonderfull
[10:14] <LjL> bl3ssing: yes, because X-Chat is a GTK program, and without Gnome, you won't have any nice GTK "skin" (theme) installed
[10:14] <bl3ssing> I've used it since 2-3 weeks ago and I love it.
[10:15] <bl3ssing> how can I install Gnome than?
[10:15] <l3m> arghl. currently, i have linux. hmm no, i hate ati,. damn bastards
[10:15] <l3m> hate
[10:15] <l3m> why oh why
[10:15] <bl3ssing> will this delete all my program configruation?
[10:15] <kkathman> bl3ssing: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:15] <l3m> can't they just release a driver that just works
[10:15] <l3m> like nvidia
[10:15] <LjL> bl3ssing: don't install it, if you like KDE. on the other hand, you could still get a nice theme for GTK
[10:15] <kkathman> l3m ATI just continues to hate Linux people :(
[10:15] <bl3ssing> I lvoe KDE
[10:16] <kkathman> bl3ssing: all that does is get you the gnome core
[10:16] <bl3ssing> lol kkathman ... about ATI ... hating the linux people. I'm a linux man. :-)
[10:16] <l3m> kkathman: the bad thing is, the pc i need it for has only pci. nvidia doesn't do pci anymore. arghl
[10:16] <bl3ssing> that's right l3m
[10:16] <bl3ssing> nvidia har agp and ... Ex... what's the name of it?
[10:16] <bl3ssing> it is a new slot ... for the video card
[10:17] <bl3ssing> but I am not sure about the name of it
[10:17] <l3m> no i luuuv nvidia. i always buy nvidia if there's a choice. but atm there isnt
[10:17] <kkathman> agp 4x / 8x
[10:17] <LjL> bl3ssing: in System Settings, go to Appearance, and then "GTK Styles and Fonts". select "use another style" and see if you have some themes installed there
[10:17] <kkathman> l3m yah its the way to go for sure
[10:17] <jazwec> hey...
[10:17] <LjL> bl3ssing: also, tell me, is the X-Chat interface looking *really* different from the interface of the KDE apps you have?
[10:17] <jazwec> pleease, could anybody past me sources.list from kubuntu 5.10? i think i did something bad :)
[10:18] <l3m> !source-o-matic
[10:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, l3m
[10:18] <kkathman> LjL: as long as he has the setting set in KDE to use KDE styles with GTK programs, it should be fine
[10:18] <LjL> !easysource
[10:18] <ubotu> hmm... easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:18] <l3m> jazwec: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:18] <LjL> kkathman: not necessarily, as that setting often doesn't work for some reason
[10:18] <l3m> exactly ;)
[10:18] <LjL> kkathman: also, i'm not sure how nice x-chat looks with the gtk-qt wrapper..
[10:18] <kkathman> LjL: really??  Well I must admit I dont use alot of GTK proggies
[10:19] <kkathman> LjL: it looks good under xfce I used it over the weekend
[10:19] <LjL> kkathman: once it works, it keeps working. but i've had to struggle a bit to make it work from the start
[10:19] <LjL> kkathman: doesn't xfce use gtk itself?
[10:19] <kkathman> I have xfce installed on an "underperformer" machine
[10:20] <kkathman> LjL: yeah kinda...its a mish mash I think
[10:20] <kkathman> though I honestly dont know
[10:20] <kkathman> I think you get alot of gtk progs
[10:21] <bl3ssing> I'll go now ... tomorrow I'll have another day since now I'll really need to get some sleep since tomorrow it will be another working day.
[10:21] <LjL> i don't think you even get QT installed, in which case the gtk-qt wrapper will play no role
[10:21] <bl3ssing> thanks guys for helping me. God richly bless all of you.
[10:21] <bl3ssing> bye bye to everyone.
[10:21] <LjL> bye
[10:21] <bl3ssing> as about the gtk ... I've tried something now, but ... I'm really tired. tomorrow I'll keep doing it again ... :-) for a better looking.
[10:22] <kkathman> LjL: I just fired up xchat in KDE and it works nicely, albeot..rather text-like
[10:22] <kkathman> kvirc is so customizable with transparency ... very very nice
[10:23] <LjL> i prefer tabs over MDI windows, though
[10:23] <LjL> konversation would be nice enough, if it weren't for the obnoxious refresh bug
[10:23] <kkathman> LjL: is there a way I can like refresh all my samba shares without rebooting?
[10:23] <LjL> what do you mean refresh?
[10:24] <kkathman> LjL: I tried an /etc/init.d/samba restart but that didnt seem to do what I wanted
[10:24] <bl3ssing> lol
[10:24] <bl3ssing> hello people again (I know I'm crazy ...)
[10:24] <bl3ssing> ;))
[10:24] <LjL> kkathman: well, try /etc/init.d/samba stop; /etc/init.d/samba start, although there shouldn't be a difference...
[10:24] <bl3ssing> I'm here right with irss
[10:24] <LjL> heh
[10:24] <bl3ssing> pretty nice irc interface ...
[10:24] <bl3ssing> I love it.
[10:25] <LjL> bl3ssing: for text mode it's very nice, yes
[10:25] <kkathman> LjL: yeah...see from this linux box I have icons to devices...to each of my other boxes, including my winbox
[10:25] <LjL> bl3ssing: many people find that, once one gets used to do things in text mode, it becomes easier and faster than GUIs
[10:25] <kkathman> LjL: but for some reason, when one of those machines reboots, I cant access it after it comes back up :(
[10:26] <LjL> kkathman: hmm... what happens if you try accessing them using their IP, instead of their name?
[10:26] <LjL> kkathman: like, //<IP_ADDRESS>/share instead of //ljlhead/share
[10:27] <kkathman> lemme check
[10:27] <kkathman> LjL: you are talking in a browser?
[10:28] <LjL> kkathman: no, i'm thinking of the "mount" command
[10:28] <LjL> kkathman: (or of "smb:/" from konqueror if you use that...)
[10:28] <kkathman> ok lemme look at that
[10:29] <kkathman> LjL: yeah that works fine
[10:29] <kkathman> its just those icons get all messed up
[10:30] <LjL> kkathman: then it's not a samba problem, but, i suspect, a NetBIOS problem (NetBIOS being the thing that gives names to machines on a LAN... but don't ask me too much about it, i know very little)
[10:30] <LjL> kkathman: well, i think you know what you might try
[10:30] <LjL> kkathman: edit /etc/hosts, and add the name of the server machine with its IP
[10:31] <LjL> kkathman: that way, your computer should know the correct name even if it's not getting it from the NetBIOS
[10:31] <kkathman> LjL: so if I have 3 boxes I put all of them there also?
[10:31] <LjL> kkathman: yes
[10:47] <verden01> hey what packages can i install with the backports repository enabled?
[10:50] <LjL> verden01: you should check the list of packages directly on the repository via a browser
[10:50] <LjL> verden01: i don't know of an easier way
[10:51] <verden01> k
[11:01] <ddds> hey, just wondering if anyone is interested in connecting to my laptop using KDE desktop sharing
[11:09] <osh> I'm trying to configure a remote printer on this machine. It sort of "hangs" with a message about "Initializing manager". I'm running kcmshell to configure this.
[11:09] <osh> Is this a known issue or does it just happen to me?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> osh: it just happens to you ;)
[11:11] <thoreauputic> (joking)
[11:21] <Lord_Athur> hi
[11:34] <douglas> Is there a bum equivalent for kde, I don't want to install all of the gnome libs
[11:41] <sharket> hello
[11:57] <xst> How do I change the default screen resolution systemwide in kubuntu?
[11:58] <LjL> see /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:58] <LjL> or do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <xst> ljl: Hmm, the recofigurations ask me everything about framebuffers and autodetection of keyboards. Arent' there any simpler way to change the default resolution?
[12:01] <LjL> yes, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:02] <LjL> i suppose the relevant KDE control panel could also do it, although i've always had more problems than anything else with that kind of things