[00:00] <BluesKaj> ok, din't know that ...I'm using a modifies python script to initiate a server for my video and audio file locations , it's called pytivo.py and it works well
[00:01] <BluesKaj> uses the tivo as a media server on out home network
[00:01] <BluesKaj> our
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: it could be called this.is.a.script.to.amke.coffe.script
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> and ity wouldnt matter
[00:02] <BluesKaj> hehe
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> its executable and the first line #!/bin/bash means its a shell script
[00:02] <BluesKaj> yeah, that makes sense
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> and its different for python scripts but the shell still knows its a python script and throws it at the interpreter
[00:03] <BluesKaj> right , it looks for python and then the path
[00:12] <Happyness> Hello, does anyone here use Konversation?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: i dont but i have blackbelt google-fu and 2nd dan ask.com-chi
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: ask away
[00:13] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: Alright, well I just wondering if there is any scripts for Konversation, lika nicktracking and so on, like Mirc.
[00:14] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: I have searched on google btw, but did not find anything intereseting.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: does it highlight selected name. Ive never used mirc as I dont use windows
[00:15] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: I want to make a script which tracks a user in IRC. Find out which usernames a user have been using and so on.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: im not sure myself but if you can put up with the nag, mirc runs with wine
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: i dont know of such a feature myself as my irc usage is super basic
[00:17] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: Well I am not an highadvanced user myself. I just heard that there is such a script for mIRC
[00:17] <ubuntu> test
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: its not something i knew existed
[00:18] <cuznt> its a sparkle script i think
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: try later as different users will be connected
[00:18] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: Then another thing is that I cannot use "/media" to show what amarok is playing.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: i wouldnt run that in here. OPs don't like broadcasts of what you are playing because, no one cares
[00:19] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: Not here of course, in other channels.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Happyness: sounds like cuznt knows a thing or 3
[00:20] <cuznt> nope
[00:21] <cuznt> i was wrong
[00:21] <Happyness> ActionParsnip: When i type "/media" it says that no supported player is currently active, but I am using amarok 2 :P
[00:21] <cuznt> sparkle was the name of the bot that ran the script
[00:21] <Happyness> cuznt: Which script?
[00:21] <BluesKaj> Happyness, if you and the user are on the same server then a whois followed by his/her nicks will tell you what chats they are in .
[00:22] <cuznt> http://pisg.sourceforge.net
[00:22] <cuznt> chatstats
[00:22] <cuznt> pisg is an IRC channel statics generator written in Perl, it creates statistics from different logfile formats. It was originally written because IRCStats wasn't open source.
[00:22] <Happyness> BluesKaj: Well, I want a feature like tracking a user, like "/track nick". It should then print like This nick has also used the nicks:  nick1, nick2 and so on, or other features are welcome too :)
[00:22] <BluesKaj> Happyness,  in the server  type :/whois nick
[00:23] <BluesKaj> well if your scipt doesn't do it then the whois thing will do some of it at least
[00:24] <Happyness> BluesKaj: Sounds interesting, does some nice features, but not exactly what I looked for :P
[00:24] <BluesKaj> works in konverstion too :)
[00:25] <BluesKaj> err konversation
[00:26] <Happyness> BluesKaj: Yes, thats is for sure.
[00:27] <Happyness> cuznt: Does it work for Konversation?
[00:27] <cuznt> i do not know
[00:27]  * cuznt is a slack jawed yokel
[00:29] <kkkduifjalsdd> is there a tool with which i can search a word in many pdf files? like in acrobat reader 8
[00:29] <TommySprat> I'm using 32 bit kubuntu 8.10 KDE version 4.1.3 and my pritn screen button doesn't work (at least not the same way as in windows XP)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> kkkduifjalsdd: let me find out
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> kkkduifjalsdd: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/sisu
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> kkkduifjalsdd: sudo apt-get install sisu
[00:34] <Happyness> BluesKaj: Do you know any more nice quick commands in IRC?
[00:35] <araen> I've an error when I start my computer, I don't know why : http://rafb.net/p/A7OOhr43.html
[00:35] <araen> it's about gnome's daemons
[00:36] <BluesKaj> Happyness, try this site http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/misc/ccosmos.html
[00:36] <araen> "There was a mistake during the starting of gnome's preferences"
[00:37] <Happyness> BluesKaj: thanks :)
[00:40] <enzomare> ciao
[00:41] <enzomare> c'e' qualche italiano che puo' aiutarmi ?
[00:42] <BluesKaj> !it | enzomare
[00:54] <araen> nobody knows ?
[00:55] <dr_willis> Gnome questions in #ubuntu perhaps?
[00:58] <Goan> Hi. Is it possible to enable a feature in hardyheron where you could just hover the mouse pointer over the mp3 file and it starts playing in the background, without actually opening the song in some player. I have seen that working on ubuntu.
[00:59] <ShoZ> Hi
[01:02] <karoline> buenas noches a todos
[01:03] <Goan> Hi. Is it possible to enable a feature in hardyheron where you could just hover the mouse pointer over the mp3 file and it starts playing in the background, without actually opening the song in some player. I have seen that working on ubuntu.
[01:03] <karoline> hello to everybody
[01:04] <karoline> how can i install flashplayer on ubuntu 6.06?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> karoline: 32bit or 64bit?
[01:07] <karoline> 32 bits
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> karoline: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[01:15] <Goan> ActionParsnip, no advice for me?
[01:18] <__b> a
[01:19] <xp-killer> how to format my external hdd to fat 32 ?
[01:20] <dr_willis> use fdisk/gparted to set up a vfat partition, then the mkfs.vfat command on the partitiion
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> goan: looks like konqueror does it
[01:20] <dr_willis> actually gparted can format also
[01:22] <xp-killer> wat is gparted?
[01:22] <xp-killer> is it in the Kmenu?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> !gparted
[01:33] <__b> when my operating system version is old and I can't find the packages with apt-get, what do you suggest? should I install a newest version or are there another way?
[01:33] <faileas> __b: upgrading isn't a bad idea
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> __b: its not always necesssary, if the current system works 100% fine then don't fix it
[01:35] <__b> upgrade via comand line or download the new version?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> __b: command line for me
[01:36] <faileas> depends on how many versions its behind
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> __b: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:37] <__b> hum.. ok. thanks ^^
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> __b: simple and you dont have to use slow ass synaptic
[01:47] <xp-killer> how to use gparted to format my external hdd?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> !gparted | xp-killer
[01:49] <holycow> hey guys
[01:49] <holycow> in kde4, how do we enable the regular user to open up a vpn connection without having to be root?
[01:49] <holycow> i'm using kvpnc and that requires sudo priviledges ... i'd like to let ruglar users connect to vpn without sudo
[01:50] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip:  i dont see gparted in the Kùenu
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: you run it from terminal
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: it will launch a gui app
[01:52] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i type gparted it give me an error for root privelage
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: kdesudo gparted
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: its an admin task, so needs kdesudo (as its a gui app)
[01:54] <xp-killer> k
[01:57] <Borg^Zap> can anyone here help me setup dual monitors?
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Borg^Zap
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !Xinerama | Borg^Zap
[01:58] <Borg^Zap> well... the problem is that i have tried most of that stuff...
[01:58] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i dont see the option forma to fat 32
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you simply create the partition you can run: sudo mkfs.msdos /dev/<partition name>
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: if you can't do it in the gui
[02:04] <dr_willis> Borg^Zap,  a lot will depend on the exact chipset also.. and your setup/videocards/monitors
[02:07] <holycow> Borg^Zap: are you using nvidia cards?
[02:11] <Borg^Zap> i have 1 nvidia card and one ATI
[02:13] <Borg^Zap> dr_willis, holycow thank you for your help
[02:14] <dr_willis> Borg^Zap,  egads.. You have the worse case senario then....
[02:14] <dr_willis> I wouldent even try it :)
[02:14] <Borg^Zap> lol
[02:14] <Borg^Zap> yeah
[02:14] <Borg^Zap> so far everything i try gives a sig 11 error
[02:15] <Borg^Zap> but i will try again soon then with the new parts i have comeing to me
[02:16] <tim-> how does one change the background color of the notes plasmoid?
[02:17] <ralpho> click the little wrench
[02:18] <ralpho> theme notes color
[02:19] <tim-> ralpho: when I click the wrench I only have the option to change the font or the text color
[02:19] <ralpho> Mine is 4.2 perhaps thats why
[02:20] <tim-> hmm.. too bad.. that would be nice to change it from the drab grey
[02:21] <ralpho> the default on 4.2 is yellow
[02:23] <tim-> all of the plasmoids i have installed seem to be almost good.. but not quite :) My stock quote one wont show half of the quotes
[02:26] <ralpho> i updated to 4.2 right off only had to run no script with fire fox to stop it from crashing that was it running fine for me.
[02:44] <ohzie> What's the equivalent to synaptic for KDE?
[02:45] <ohzie> I could use synaptic, but I'd like to try using whatever kubuntu normally uses.
[02:45] <ohzie> Unless it IS synaptic, in which case I'm borderline, and I aplogize.
[02:45] <Shaun> is it possible to configure what events pop up on the annoying event display thing in kde 4.2?
[02:45] <faileas> ohzie: i think it has synaptic
[02:45] <Shaun> i just use aptitude...
[02:45] <faileas> or adept
[02:46]  * faileas uses apt-get
[02:46] <ohzie> and what's the gksu equiv?
[02:46] <Shaun> kdesu
[02:48] <ohzie> Thank you. :)
[02:49] <illmortal> Can someone please help me install my Wireless PCI network adapter? It's a BCM4318 chip set and this installation tutorial does NOT work: http://www.sampbar.com/2008/11/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid.html
[02:49] <illmortal> Ndiswrapper shows an error that utils doesn't exist even after installing Ndiswrapper from LiveCD
[02:50] <ohzie> illmortal: "utils doesn't exist" <--Did it say that, exactly?
[02:50] <dr_willis> i dident think the 4318 needed ndiswrappers any more. under 8.10
[02:50] <smax> Hi!
[02:50] <ohzie> Wording on errors is very important. I've never had any problem with ndiswrapper.
[02:50] <smax> is kubuntu better than fedora?
[02:50] <dr_willis> at least My old Laptop I THINK dident need ndiswrappers
[02:51] <illmortal> yes ohzie
[02:51] <ohzie> smax: kubuntu or xubuntu yes.
[02:51] <dr_willis> smax,  depends on your needs I guess.
[02:51] <ohzie> smax: It feels faster to me.
[02:51] <ohzie> Fedora is nice in a lot of ways, but the only problem I've ever had with ubuntu was ehci_hcd, and Fedora has the same problem
[02:52] <smax> whats ehci_hcd
[02:52] <ohzie> smax: from what I understand, the thing that makes usb 2.0 superior to 1.0/1.1
[02:52] <illmortal> dr_willis i dunno... normally i can left click the disconnected from network icon and it would list a few wireless networks to choose from.
[02:53] <dr_willis> some USB controller cards/chipsets  can have issues with some of the  ehci stuff... not seen that issue in years however
[02:53] <smax> facinating.
[02:54] <dr_willis> i seem to recall years ago  ohci and ehci for usb drivers.. but its been so long since ive had to mess with those - i forget the resaons for the 2
[02:55] <illmortal> ohzie what's mind boggling is that my newest Linksys network pci adapter is recognized (but something is wrong with it) and this older network adapter isn't recognized.
[02:56] <ohzie> illmortal: Strange.
[02:58] <illmortal> is there any reason why ndiswrapper would install but throws the error that the utils doesn't exist?
[02:59] <dr_willis> you did try  the b43 fwcutter packagte first?  you do need the firmware for the  nic's i recall... But My card may not of been the same chipset as yours. I dont even have tha tlaptop any more
[02:59] <dr_willis> !find b43
[02:59] <dr_willis> !info b43-fwcutter
[03:00] <illmortal> i heard b43-fwcutter = horrible <,<
[03:00] <dr_willis> on my laptop + 8.10 - installed b43-fwcutter = wireless working within 3 min..
[03:00] <dr_willis> Ive heard ndiswrapper = Horriable
[03:00] <illmortal> hmm....
[03:01] <dr_willis> 8.10 did a lot of changes to the wireless drivers/updated to the wireless stuff.. a lot of the old docs suggest ndiswrappers. that are no lonnger the best way to doit
[03:01] <dr_willis> I would say check the forums for your exact card. and see what others suggest using with 8.10
[03:01] <illmortal> is b43-fwcutter already located in the synaptic or do i need internet access to download it?
[03:02] <dr_willis> b43-fwcutter (source: b43-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component main, is optional.
[03:02] <dr_willis> optional = not installed by default :)
[03:02] <dr_willis> the package actually downloads/installs the firmware
[03:03] <illmortal> so i'm screwed if ubuntu has no internet access to begin with?
[03:03] <dr_willis> unless you have access to a different machine and can grab whatever packages you need.
[03:03] <dr_willis> Ive never had that problem
[03:04] <illmortal> ya i can't hardwire... only thing i can attempt is to download it via windows, send it to thumb drive, then log into ubuntu and install from thumb drive
[03:04] <stanley_> is there a program i can use to create .cab files??
[03:05] <faileas> illmortal: not that easy but you can poke around a repo to find it
[03:05] <dr_willis> If the windows machine had a spare nic. you could connect to it and use ICS to get to the net through it.
[03:06] <faileas> or run kubuntu in a VM, download the packages, then use aptcd or something to move it over
[03:08] <illmortal> nah I only have one machine.... my only option is to download the file and then transport it via thumb drive once i log back into ubuntu.
[03:09] <dr_willis> You can easially use virtualbox to do like faileas  suggests. :) may be easier in the long run..
[03:09] <dr_willis> or are you saying the ONE machine you got with windows is ONLY wireless?
[03:09] <illmortal> i only have one machine
[03:09] <illmortal> and it's only wireless
[03:09] <faileas> ya
[03:10] <illmortal> dual boot with windows xp and ubuntu
[03:10] <dr_willis> You can install ubuntu inside virtualbox. and let it grab the packages then. it can share the network connection.
[03:10] <dr_willis> you could even do that via virtualbox + the live cd iso.. and apt-get install the files, copy over to some directory
[03:11] <illmortal> so install ubuntu via VM... download the packages... log out of windows then log back into ubuntu and try to find the package i downloaded?
[03:11] <dr_willis> Im not sure how you 'download' the firmware - the fw-cutter package actually downloads them when you install the fwcutter package  - i belive
[03:11] <dr_willis> It must cache them somewhere. :)
[03:11] <faileas> illmortal: install ubuntu over VM, use aptcd to make a cd, boot back to linux, use cd to install
[03:12] <faileas> if its a usb device (some wireless is) you could also use virtualbox and pipe the usb device over to it and do some other stuff that way
[03:12] <nazareno> oi
[03:14] <illmortal> using aptcd would do what... create a Ubuntu with fw-cutter already integrated with the distro?..
[03:15] <illmortal> you know what... forget it, this is more complicated than it needs to be. I'll stick to windows for now =\
[03:15] <faileas> no, it would make a cd with all the packages you installed
[03:16] <illmortal> ok but at the end I'm still gonna need to have internet access for fw-cutter to download the correct firmware.
[03:16] <illmortal> fwcutter*
[03:17] <dr_willis> Unless ya figure out where its getting the stuff from
[03:18] <dr_willis> You could proberly grab all the files with a live cd,. and virtualbox - easially enough. and copy over to the windows partition.
[03:18] <dr_willis> no need to 'install' to virtualbox. if the live cd  can do it
[03:19] <illmortal> I don't think the livecd has the capability to connect to the internet.
[03:19] <dr_willis> If hes runnign the live cd inside virtualbox.. it can use the windows network connection
[03:20] <illmortal> without installing ubuntu into the VM?
[03:21] <illmortal> actually no... you can only install ubuntu into the VM
[03:21] <dr_willis> actually you CAN run the livecd.iso inside virtualbox. and install things  to the livecd.. they just get lost when you reboot.
[03:21] <dr_willis> I do it all the time
[03:22] <illmortal> how do i open up the virtual box independently?
[03:23] <dr_willis> You install virtualbox on the windows machine.. run it.. tell it to boot the kubuntu.iso file.  the apt-get install the stuff you need..  then copy the installed/downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt (or whatever) to  somewhere your  linux box will be able to access tehm.
[03:24] <ohzie> Does anyone know of a good network monitor? I used netspeed for gnome, but I hate gnome.
[03:24] <ohzie> so I'm trying KDE
[03:24] <ohzie> and gkrellm's network monitor sucks.
[03:25] <illmortal> dr_willis I also found this: http://www.bu3sch.de/b43/fwcutter/
[03:25] <illmortal> but you say that it has to go onto the internet for it to find the correct firmware, ya?
[03:25] <dr_willis> Its getting the firmware files from somewhere - from what i saw when i isntalled fwcutter
[03:27] <Ahmuck> so ... is there a way to turn off graphic effects in 8.10 ?
[03:27] <dr_willis> Theres settings in the menus some where  I recall. :)
[03:28] <dr_willis> but i rarely  use KDE4 or gnome - i tend to use jwm+rox, so i dont rember the menu layouts
[03:28] <dr_willis> I boot up to kde4 every so often to show it to people
[03:28] <legodude> rox?
[03:28] <legodude> you use that?
[03:28] <dr_willis> all the time
[03:28] <legodude> !
[03:28] <dr_willis> rox-filer and its pinboard feature + jwm
[03:29]  * legodude googles to make sure he is remembering it correctly
[03:29] <legodude> that's it
[03:29] <legodude> I tried it many years ago and was kinda unimpressed
[03:29] <legodude> what's its claim to fame?
[03:31] <dr_willis> I use it. it does what i need.. whats to be impressed about a tool that works, works quickly, and lets me customuize it how i want. :)
[03:47] <ohzie> Oh man, Adept is so much nicer than synaptic.
[03:47] <ohzie> :D
[03:49] <detrate> is there a "mod" comparison operator in perl? % in java.
[03:49] <detrate> 7 mod 4 = 3
[03:50] <detrate> wow, this isn't #perl
[03:55] <thomas> I just installed 8.10, and my sound isn't working
[04:02] <thomas> the sound setup tab is useless
[04:06] <oracleofmist> hey guys
[04:07] <oracleofmist> i have an ubuntu server that is xxx.somenetwork.com when I ping xxx from that machine
[04:07] <oracleofmist> how do i change my other ubuntu machine to be on somenetwork.com?
[04:14] <illmortal> dr_willis how do I obtain ownership of /etc/init.d?
[04:15] <illmortal> I need to put a file in there and sadly I have no permission to copy a file into that folder.
[04:15] <Roey> hey all
[04:15] <Roey> are microsd cards known for incompatibility with Linux?
[04:16] <Roey> I just got this sandisk microsd
[04:16] <legodude> no
[04:16] <Roey> and I can't mount it!
[04:16] <legodude> does it have a fs?
[04:16] <Roey> hrm, dunno
[04:16] <buckethead> have you used the slot before?
[04:16] <legodude> I'd make sure it is formatted
[04:16] <Roey> yes
[04:16] <Roey> how do I check
[04:17] <legodude> well
[04:17] <legodude> first see if it shows up in dmesg
[04:17] <legodude> then fdisk it
[04:17] <Roey> did that
[04:17] <Roey> I mean, it gives errors:
[04:17] <legodude> oh, so that is part of your problem then
[04:17] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/m16f850de
[04:18] <legodude> also, is your new card sdhc?
[04:18] <Roey> I do not believe so; lemme check.
[04:19] <legodude> hrm, don't really know what those errors mean
[04:19] <Roey> Checked the packaging.  I see no mention of SDHC.
[04:19] <legodude> I'd try giving it a format and seeing what happens
[04:19] <Roey> hmm.
[04:19] <Roey> format /dev/sdd1 ?
[04:20] <Roey> I tried /dev/sdd stupidly and mount said it won't do full-disk formatting
[04:20] <Roey> I mean.. I guess I normally do /dev/sdd1.  Lemme check.
[04:20] <legodude> mkfs.vfat
[04:20] <Roey> em
[04:20] <Roey> ok
[04:20] <Roey> it works
[04:20] <Roey> thanks!
[04:20] <legodude> you are welcome
[04:20] <Roey> that was weird--I haven't had a card not mount out-of-the-box in some time...
[04:21] <Roey> it's a 2 GB microsd plugged into an SD adaptor plugged into a USB adaptor.
[04:21] <Roey> :}
[04:27] <kusanagi_> can you tell me a nice dock for kde?
[04:39] <axiom> so, I've done this several times before, but I can't get it to work now. How do I add a shortcut to my quicklaunch area?
[04:40] <Tm_T> axiom: drag'n'drop doesn't work?
[04:40] <axiom> I thought dragging was the way, but I get an X, or it opens the shorcut file in Firefox or something...
[04:40] <axiom> is this like an actual folder somewhere
[04:40] <axiom> and why is there no "add new shortcut" button?
[04:42] <axiom> oohh, it fiannaly worked!
[04:42] <axiom> that was way too hard...
[04:42] <axiom> this should not be a game of skill...
[04:46] <fher> holaaa alguien abla español_??
[04:46] <fher> me puede asesorarrr???
[04:47] <fher> por favorrr???
[04:47] <Tm_T> !es | fher
[05:00] <mn> I need help with KRFB and KRDC
[05:00] <wilson__> me too
[05:11] <mn> wilson__: how do i use it.  i don't even know how to get started
[05:30] <manish> hi
[05:34] <mn> hi
[05:35] <kavoor> hi, is there a kubuntu live cd available with kde4.2 beta?
[05:52] <stdin> kavoor: the Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 2
[05:54] <kavoor> stdin: do you recomment it for daily use?
[05:54] <stdin> no
[05:55] <stdin> it's only intended for developers/people wanting to help fix bugs
[05:57] <kavoor> stdin: ok thanks
[06:32] <lninjox> anyone know how to install the moodin plugin in kubuntu 8.10
[06:35] <mn> Is there anyone here that would assist me with remote desktop connection?
[06:41] <michael__> Does anyone else notice a delay when using git that didn't used to be there?
[06:42] <computerkidt> hello
[06:43] <computerkidt> i need some help
[06:43] <computerkidt> anyone there
[06:44] <computerkidt> hmm great support channel no ones talking
[06:45] <buckethead> what is your question?
[06:49] <michael__> hmmm...great user...not asking questions.
[06:53] <illmortal> quick question... why would a 500gb HD be seen as a 465 HD with 7GB used, even after deleting the partition and formatting?
[06:56] <bvalek2> illmortal: what did you use to format it?
[06:57] <illmortal> partition editor
[06:57] <Roey> Hey all, I just bought webcam (Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000) and have gotten it working with luvcview.  I'm wondering, though, which other programs (besides cheese and irrelevant GNOME oddities) can I use it with?
[06:58] <bvalek2> illmortal: how many partitions do you see on your HD now?
[06:58] <witakr> can someone help me find my mp3 player that i plaugged into my usb port????.... i looked but its not where i thought it would be
[06:58] <bvalek2> and what sizes?
[06:59] <illmortal> bvalek2, prior to the format..... there was 2. 50gb and 445gb
[06:59] <illmortal> Now there's just 1 partition but with 465gb and 7gb used... which is impossible if i formatted it o.O
[07:00] <bvalek2> Roey: if your camera works, then your question just takes away from you the fun, to take a look at all the great programs Linux has to offer to play with it :) go on, and explore. i dont think that anybody has a detailed list of cam programs. i use aMSN
[07:01] <Roey> aMSN, ok.
[07:01] <Roey> is that an MSN client?
[07:01] <Roey> bvalek2:  thanks for the encouragement, btw :)
[07:02] <Roey> it works with luvcview BUT it's only 640x480 and 9 FPS (instead of 1200xWhatever at 30 FPS)
[07:02] <bvalek2> Roey: do you see any files there?
[07:02] <Roey> oh!
[07:03] <bvalek2> Roey: yes, aMSN is one of many ways to use the MSN network on Linux. you can try Pidgin, and Kopete as well
[07:03] <bvalek2> sorry :)
[07:03] <bvalek2> illmortal: do you see any files there?
[07:03] <Roey> I see it takes arguments.  I looked at its man page before, and i didn't see them there.  I only saw the available args list once I did luvcview --help
[07:03] <Roey> :P
[07:03] <Roey> hehe
[07:03] <Roey> does Pidgin support webcams?
[07:03] <illmortal> bvalek2... I can't even access the hard drive at this moment.
[07:04] <bvalek2> witakr: do you use Kubuntu 8.10? (this is the new version)
[07:04] <witakr> 8.04
[07:04] <witakr> UPGRADING IS A WHOLE OTHER NIGHTMARE
[07:04] <witakr> sry
[07:05] <bvalek2> witakr: try the dolphin file manager, if you plugged it in, it must be there somewhere among the devices. if you find it, and you find a weird directory in it, dont worry, look inside. somewhere there must be your music files
[07:06] <illmortal> bvalek2, is there anyway to see if there's any hidden files or hidden partitions on this hard drive?
[07:06] <bvalek2> Roey: pidgin is the most popular communication program on Linux (at least in Hungary), i am sure it supports webcams (but i got used to aMSN)
[07:06] <witakr> well wouldnt/shouldnt it be in the "storage media"... thats where my internal and external hard drives are .... my usb thumb drives too but not my player
[07:06] <bvalek2> illmortal: you use Linux, and Linux programs for this, right?
[07:07] <illmortal> bvalek2, this hard drive is specifically an ext2 storage hard drive for both windows XP and Ubuntu.
[07:07] <bvalek2> witakr: when i tried to connect my camera, it was on a separate place, not together with storage media
[07:08] <Roey> bvalek2:  aye
[07:08] <Roey> Egen
[07:08] <Roey> :)
[07:08] <Roey> bvalek2:  I'm wondering why I don't see 30 fps here.... it stays at 7-8
[07:09] <bvalek2> illmortal: i only partitioned with install CDs so far. Linux install CD made proper partitions, and i assume, that this is their regular tool. Windows partitioners do weird things with HDs
[07:09] <witakr> bvalek2: thats oddd... any hint or suggestions as to where i should look? im not yet familiar with this file system... im still used to windows
[07:09] <illmortal> Right... and I've never used Windows to format nor partition this drive nor any drive. I strictly use Linux.
[07:10] <witakr> amarok cant see it either if that helps bvalek2
[07:11] <bvalek2> witakr: try looking around, maybe in dolphin. in the worst case (if there is no support for you player in 8.04), you need Kubuntu 8.10, because the new kernel may support your device. but lets be optimistic, and assume, that its there, just hidden somewhere :)
[07:13] <witakr> well id love to upgrade the new kde looks awesome but i cant seem to burn an images that lets me install from they always ended up with " corrupt or missing vital files"
[07:13] <bvalek2> Roey: maybe you can set up your camera somewhere. or, your connection to the person you are talking with is slow
[07:13] <Roey> bvalek2:  my webcam says it supports 1600x1200 and 30fps; I chose more conservative settings but luvcview says it can't get those:   Frame size:   960x720 (requested size 1024x768 is not supported by device)
[07:13] <Roey>   Frame rate:   15/1 fps (requested frame rate 30 fps is not supported by device)
[07:13] <Roey>
[07:13] <bvalek2> Roey: my camera is very minimal compared to this. i am afraid, i can help with fancy cam :)
[07:14] <Roey> heh
[07:14] <szrhawaii> can anyone tell me how to swap out the kernel properly
[07:14] <szrhawaii> so it doesnt crash
[07:14] <bvalek2> witakr: did you download the iso file, and burned to a CD? did it work without problems?
[07:14] <szrhawaii> im using this to upgrade the kernel https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive
[07:15] <bvalek2> szrhawaii: try ##kernel too
[07:15] <witakr> well i installed8.04 from a disc mailed to me from the website but when i burn the image(in windows and kubuntu) it hangs up or wont install
[07:16] <szrhawaii> has anyone swapped kernels before
[07:16] <bvalek2> witakr: burning the image to a CD, and installing with that CD are two distinct things. where did you got problems?
[07:17] <illmortal> Does anyone know of a program that Ubuntu can use in order to find any hidden files or hidden partitions on a hard drive? My reformatted hard drive claims that 7GB of space is used atm and I don't know how.
[07:17] <szrhawaii> for your hard ware illmortal
[07:18] <witakr> installing frrom the cd i burn my self... i dont know if it was the software or what but when i burn the iso and then i try to install from it... it hangs up
[07:18] <szrhawaii> its to save your bios settings and hardware configurations
[07:18] <illmortal> what do you mean for my hardware?
[07:18] <illmortal> 7GB/!?!?!
[07:18] <illmortal> Jees.... 1-2gb is more realistic -.-
[07:19] <illmortal> is there any way I can rid these configuration files? This is a storage hard drive, nothing else.
[07:21] <bvalek2> witakr: if the CD that you burned from ISO can boot, and installer starts, then you CD must be good. the problem occurs during the install then. did you have problems with connecting to the internet during an install? when its downloading packages
[07:23] <cstoner> illmortal: You can use the program df (disk space free) or du (disk space used) to find out where the big files are
[07:23] <cstoner> Also, it'd be worth checking the partition tables to make sure all of the space is being partitioned
[07:23] <yao_ziyuan> after running kubuntu/kde 4.2 for a hour, it always begins to slow down
[07:24] <illmortal> cstoner, how do i check the partition tables?...
[07:24] <yao_ziyuan> don't you think kde 4.2 has serious memory leaks?
[07:24] <szrhawaii> yao_ziyuan turn off your deskto effects
[07:24] <illmortal> there should only be one partition on this hard drive =\
[07:24] <cstoner> you can use fdisk, but be careful you don't write anything
[07:24] <yao_ziyuan> szrhawaii: all right
[07:25] <bvalek2> yao_ziyuan: KDE 4.2 is beta software, it is still tested. if you find a problem with it, i am sure that the KDE development team will be very happy if you send them a bugreport
[07:25] <illmortal> cstoner... I'm gettin an odd error.
[07:25] <szrhawaii> yao_ziyuan thats what was slowing down my comp when i downloaded 4.2
[07:25] <cstoner> ie "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" (for SATA drives) or "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" (for ATA) PLEASE read the man page for fdisk first, though
[07:25] <illmortal> ah ok hol don
[07:25] <cstoner> what sort of "odd error"
[07:26] <yao_ziyuan> bvalek2: the performance regression is so obvious that anyone using it for more than 1 hour will notice
[07:26] <bvalek2> yao_ziyuan: KDE 4.2 is beta software, it is still tested. if you find a problem with it, i am sure that the KDE development team will be very happy if you send them a bugreport
[07:26] <cstoner> yao_ziyuan: I have a 3 day uptime under 4.2 with no noticable slowdown
[07:27] <illmortal> cstoner, after using fdisk /dev/sda   : The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 60801. (this is on a 500gb hd)
[07:27] <shepherd> #ubuntu
[07:27] <illmortal> if I use fdisk -l it claims that it cannot open 3 drives <,<
[07:28] <cstoner> Well, a 500gb drive will ACTUALLY have closer to 490GB of usable space... It's stupid, but HDs are measured with 1000byte units rather than 1024
[07:28] <illmortal> ya
[07:29] <illmortal> i think legitimately it's 465
[07:29] <illmortal> which is what i have, then there's 7gb that's used.. which i can't figure out.
[07:29] <faileas> cstoner: its not stupid, its business ;)
[07:29] <cstoner> are you running fdisk as root? you have to be root
[07:29] <cstoner> business is stupid
[07:31] <cstoner> except Canonical, of course ;)
[07:32] <illmortal>  /dev/sda1               1       60801   488384001   83  Linux
[07:33] <illmortal> it's showing up on fdisk
[07:33] <illmortal> fdisk -l but i still need to know where the 7gb of used space is comin from =\
[07:33] <illmortal> and I forget how to mount it =X
[07:34] <cstoner> du will tell you where the space is being used
[07:34] <illmortal> so just type sudo du ?
[07:34] <illmortal> or sudo du /dev/sda ?
[07:34] <maxmahem> Anybody got a secound to help me figure out how to configure my soundcard? It doesn't seem to be working.
[07:34] <cstoner> no sudo needed
[07:34] <cstoner> try a "man du" first.
[07:35] <crimsun> maxmahem: please download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, save it to your Desktop, and in a Konsole, type: bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[07:35] <illmortal> ok
[07:35] <illmortal> ok cstoner, this is a manual I'm lookin at
[07:36] <cstoner> yup. It will tell you how to use du better than I can
[07:37] <illmortal> not really... the manual lacks in explaining how to run du on just a specific drive.
[07:37] <cstoner> ... you don't run it on a drive, you run it on a file or directory
[07:38] <cstoner> Hence why the first line reads "Summarize disk usage of each FILE, recursively for directories."
[07:38] <illmortal> <_< that's not gonna help me if I can't find files in this drive to begin with....
[07:38] <cstoner> where is it mounted
[07:39] <illmortal> that's another problem (keep in mind im a linux noob) I need to mount this drive and I've been searching up and down on the "ubuntu help" and I can't find any documentation
[07:39] <cstoner> how many drives are in your machine?
[07:40] <illmortal> 2 physical drives.
[07:40] <maxmahem> Sorry that took a sec, out put is at: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=521b2031fd8efcd670320d9193685488e85b2a5c
[07:40] <illmortal> the SATA (sda) drive is the one that needs to be mounted
[07:41] <illmortal> When I check, "computer" that SATA drive is missing.
[07:41] <cstoner> how is it formatted? (ext3, xfs, ntfs, fat32, etc)
[07:41] <illmortal> ext2
[07:42] <cstoner> the command "mount /dev/sda1 /place/to/mount/to" will mount it
[07:43] <illmortal> the part of /place/to/mount can you give me an example?....
[07:43] <cstoner> Ummm.... /mnt/some_name would be a regular place. Anywhere should work, just make sure the directory exists and is empty
[07:44] <illmortal> ah ok
[07:44] <cstoner> empty is technially optional, but it makes life easier
[07:44] <illmortal> wait.. mount point has to already exist?
[07:45] <cstoner> yeah, just mkdir a directory somewhere
[07:46] <sigma20> so when is package kit going into jaunty? and is kaffeine anywhere near completion? i need a playlist for my videos lol
[07:47] <sigma20> walking to the computer to change it manually is way too much work!
[07:47] <illmortal> roflmao now my HD is down to 435GB of free space.
[07:47] <illmortal> W.T.F.
[07:47] <illmortal> This is epic.
[07:47] <illmortal> alright so I created the mount point /storage
[07:47] <sigma20> what did you do to it illmortal?
[07:47] <crimsun> maxmahem: sec
[07:48] <illmortal> sigma20 lol i formatted it.. and apparently 1gb is ticking away per minute
[07:48] <Mamarok> sigma20: kaffeine is called dragonplayer in kde4
[07:48] <sigma20> wtf! that cant be right!
[07:48] <sigma20> no kaffeine is a seperate program
[07:49] <cstoner> illmortal: is the output of du helping at all?
[07:49] <illmortal> cstoner, I created the mount point /storage which put the folder into the root directory
[07:49] <illmortal> and added, "lost&found" folder in there...
[07:50] <illmortal> let me check
[07:50] <szrhawaii> #compiz-fusion
[07:50] <illmortal> so for du to check /storage is there anythig special i need to type into terminal?
[07:51] <illmortal>  sudo du /storage
[07:51] <illmortal> 16	/storage/lost+found
[07:51] <illmortal> 20	/storage
[07:51] <illmortal> that's the output.
[07:52] <cstoner> maybe df would be more use to you
[07:52] <illmortal> im sorry.... du nor df is giving me the information i need.
[07:52] <crimsun> maxmahem: please mute 'IEC958'
[07:53] <cstoner> then you probably didn't allocate all of the sectors for your partition
[07:53] <illmortal> and how exactly would I be able to do that?
[07:54] <cstoner> reading "man fdisk" would be a start
[07:54] <cstoner> or even looking into kparted
[07:54] <maxmahem> crimsun: done. It was muted when I first started but I wasn't getting any sound so I unmuted it. Both ways, I'm still not hearing anything.
[07:56] <crimsun> maxmahem: set 'Digital Source' to either 'AC97 in' or 'SRC out'
[07:58] <maxmahem> crimsun: Tried both, still not hearing anything. My digital output is currently connected to anything though, I have speakers plugged in to just about all my other outputs however.
[07:58] <crimsun> maxmahem: does `speaker-test -Dplughw:0 -c4' give you anything?
[08:00] <illmortal> cstoner, i don't know what im supposed to look for.
[08:00] <maxmahem> crimsun: I here nothing, but I did get a whole bunch of Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[08:01] <crimsun> ah!
[08:01] <crimsun> maxmahem: ok, sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/seq* /dev/snd/*
[08:01] <crimsun> please pastebin what that command returns
[08:01] <coltin> hello everyone, I am having a major annoying problem I really need help with this. I am running Kubuntu 8.10, and someone is trying to remotly access my computer using windows xp pro and ultra vnc, but for the life of us we can not get him connected to my computer. any help would be greatly appreciated
[08:04] <cstoner> illmortal: try using qtparted (not kparted, apparently qtparted is more up to date)
[08:04] <coltin> should I just give up or something lol, This has me going nuts. I can connect to him even but he can not connect to me, which made me think its something in my internet connection. but i enabled everything, no firewall on i just dont knwo
[08:05] <illmortal> someone is claiming that the reason why there's 7gb used on that HD is because it stores the configuration files.
[08:06] <buckethead> coltin: do you have a router?
[08:06] <maxmahem> crimsun: Done, I think the problem with the sound test may have been I had Amrock running, when I killed it the program continued.
[08:06] <cstoner> that is a lie
[08:06] <cstoner> my config files (the /etc directory) take 19M
[08:07] <maxmahem> crimsun: I pasted it's current output up as well.
[08:07] <maxmahem> speaker-test that is.
[08:08] <crimsun> maxmahem: ok, the visual output of speaker-test is not really as important. need to cross-reference something, sec
[08:11] <maxmahem> I'm pretty new at this, is there a way I can kill the speaker-test it seems to be running endlessly.
[08:12] <cstoner> maxmahem: CTRL-C
[08:12] <maxmahem> Ah, thank you. That a common abort command in Linux?
[08:13] <cstoner> yeah
[08:15] <cstoner> it only works in the shell though. For GUI apps, it's usually the copy command
[08:19] <maxmahem> I've always used ctrl+insert, which seems to work here as well.
[08:20] <maxmahem> for copying that is. shift+del for cut, and shift+insert for paste. Not sure where I picked that habpit up thoug.
[08:24] <cstoner> I don't like using the insert/del keys if I can help it. They're never in the same spot on different keyboards
[08:26]  * kniolet doesnt even have an insert key on her keyboard :-(
[08:26] <maxmahem> I long ago got in the habit of using them, they speed me up alot. But you are right about differeint keyboards messing with the placement.
[08:26] <maxmahem> I recently got a new logitech wireless keyboard as a christmas gift, which I love, but they went and moved my home/end/insert stuff around which is driving me batty.
[08:28] <maxmahem> Awesome keyboard otherwise, but I can't fathom why the decied to move those keys around. I don't how folks on laptops can live without those insert/home key stuff.
[08:28] <cstoner> Emacs keybindings do just fine for me
[08:28] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[08:30] <cstoner> palemoon: having trouble?
[08:30] <palemoon> cstoner: try to get this thing to autoidentify... been awhile since I was on irc
[08:31] <cstoner> heh ;) just wondering
[08:34] <faled> hi apachelogger
[08:36] <faled> apachelogger: I want speak you a little bit about the bug #263235
[08:40] <maxmahem> crimsun: surfing the web a bit on my problem, might I need to download some nforce drivers?
[08:45] <crimsun> maxmahem: only if you have that hardware
[08:46] <maxmahem> crimsun: well my sound card is integrated in with my motherboard, which IIRC is an nforce.
[08:47] <crimsun> maxmahem: it appears to be driven by another driver, however
[08:48] <maxmahem> crimsun: Oh, I surely know nothing, I'm just trying to help myself a little bit.
[08:52] <jack_> hey
[08:53] <jack_> I need drivers for an HD 4670
[08:53] <jack_> can anyone help me out?
[08:53] <cstoner> HD 4670?
[08:54] <jack_> yeah
[08:54] <jack_> thats it
[08:54] <cstoner> ... what is 'it'
[08:54] <jack_> ATI Radeon HD 4670 Graphics adapter
[08:55] <cstoner> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:56] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[08:58] <contrast> Anyone know of a fix for KDE4 apps not respecting the system-wide icon size setting (System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced)?
[09:00] <kniolet> is it a kde4 app running under kde4 or a kde3 app running under kde4?
[09:00] <contrast> KDE4 app running under KDE4. Oddly enough, KDE3 apps and GTK apps respect the setting. ^_^
[09:01] <kniolet> lol that is odd
[09:01] <kniolet> which kubuntu version is it?
[09:02] <contrast> 8.10, using the kde-experimental and kde-members PPA repos.
[09:03] <contrast> 22x22 toolbar icons suck on a media center setup.
[09:04] <kniolet> is it just that one app thats having the problem?
[09:05] <contrast> Nope, it's every single KDE4 app on my system.
[09:06] <maxmahem> Is there a way to edit permissions for root objects in dolphin?
[09:07] <kniolet> you arent by some weird chance running kde3 system settings instead of kde4 system setting right? thats about teh only thing i can thnk of
[09:07] <contrast> kniolet: Nope... This bug's been around since 4.0.
[09:08] <contrast> maxmahem: I *think* there's a root actions service menu for KDE4 on kde-apps.org. If not, it's supposed to be fairly easy to make a KDE3 service menu work with KDE4.
[09:10] <Kbwrite> so hi! I need to know how to get all the drivers for a fresh install of kubuntu! I think there's a way it can scan your hardware and find drivers, is this right?
[09:11] <faileas> Kbwrite: its usually automagical unless you have a specific piece of hardware
[09:11] <kniolet> contrast: ah i see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169067
[09:11] <Kbwrite> how would it do it automatically if it is internet dependant?
[09:11] <genii> Kbwrite: For restricted/proprietary drivers, yes. Otherwise it just auto installed what it thought appropriate from the open-source ones.
[09:12] <genii> Kbwrite: The jockey-kde    is for the restricted
[09:12] <BentFrank> I have a Kubuntu server running samba and Windows 2000 clients.  Users map a network drive to my share point.  The share point directory has perms:  "drwsrwsr-x  6 dmb fourth" where dmb is a user name and fourth is a group.  All users are in group fourth.  Someone on a client makes a folder using Windows Explorer in this directory.  The new folder has perms "drwxrwsrwx  2 brb fourth".  Shouldn't the new directory have perm
[09:12] <Kbwrite> also, is there a way to turn KDE into Gnome? I know I can do it the reverse*
[09:12] <contrast> Kbwrite: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <genii> Kbwrite: You can have either desktop or both
[09:13] <Kbwrite> THANKS
[09:13] <contrast> np
[09:13] <Kbwrite> yeh, I know I can have as many as there are
[09:13] <kniolet> but you dont want gnome, realy ;-) (j/k)
[09:13] <genii> Kbwrite: For gnome only see factoid !puregnome
[09:14] <contrast> Kbwrite: i'm guessing the driver for your wireless card wasn't automatically recognized? is it listed in the restricted drivers when you run jockey-kde?
[09:14] <Kbwrite> contrast, actually it's my geforce onboard grphx
[09:16] <contrast> Kbwrite: umm... but you don't have internet access on that system?
[09:16] <Kbwrite> contrast, I am on the system XD
[09:17] <contrast> "<Kbwrite> how would it do it automatically if it is internet dependant?" - that kinda threw me off. :P
[09:17] <kniolet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia may help
[09:17] <Kbwrite> heh
[09:19] <contrast> Kbwrite: KMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers. should be self-explanatory from there. :)
[09:19] <Kbwrite> yeh, did that
[09:19] <Kbwrite> thanks
[09:20] <contrast> umm... ok, and it didn't work?
[09:20] <maxmahem> Hmm... is there a way I can configure an app on my menu to always run as root?
[09:20] <cuznt> !nvidia
[09:21] <cuznt> geforce = nvidia
[09:21] <contrast> maxmahem: right-click -> menu editor -> add kdesudo to the beginning of the command
[09:21] <contrast> maxmahem: are you asking that in regards to dolphin?
[09:21] <maxmahem> No, nvida settings.
[09:21] <kniolet> wow Matrox still makes video cards?
[09:21] <maxmahem> It can't save its changes to xconfig unless it is run as root
[09:22] <contrast> ah, ok
[09:23] <maxmahem> would running dolphin as root be a bad idea?
[09:23] <faileas> kniolet: yup, they do
[09:23] <maxmahem> I could probably messthings up pretty good I think.
[09:24] <contrast> maxmahem: yeah, generally that's not recommended.
[09:24] <kniolet> doing it on a normal basis would be a bad idea, yes
[09:24] <maxmahem> next question, any easy way to restart x?
[09:24] <kniolet> ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:25] <contrast> maxmahem: log out -> ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:25] <maxmahem> k then. BRB.
[09:29] <maxmahem> hmm... well I know have my dual monitor mostly working.
[09:30] <maxmahem> I can mouse over there at least, but it is all black, and my cursor turns to an x.
[09:31] <contrast> maxmahem: did you try using twinview?
[09:31] <maxmahem> Won't that just duplicate my current screen?
[09:31] <contrast> maxmahem: nope
[09:31] <maxmahem> IE I didn't because I didn't think it was what I wanted.
[09:32] <maxmahem> I have another x session running over there now right?
[09:32] <contrast> right
[09:32] <maxmahem> which probably isn't what I want then. Ok, I'll give twin view a shot. BRB
[09:32] <contrast> twinview = one xsession spread across two monitors, iirc
[09:32] <contrast> maxmahem: you should be able to try it w/o restarting x
[09:33] <szrhawaii> has anyone seen a white box popping up in the top left hand corner of the screen when your splash screen comes up before you log in
[09:34] <szrhawaii> because every time i do the 8.10 version it has a box on the left top hand corner of the screen
[09:34] <contrast> szrhawaii: can't say i have. does it go away after a while?
[09:35] <szrhawaii> it only does it when the bootsplash screen comes up
[09:35] <szrhawaii> once the standard splash comes on it gets smaller then goes away
[09:35] <szrhawaii> is there a way to get rid of that
[09:36] <contrast> sounds like a compositing issue. did you see if it still does it with desktop effects turned off?
[09:36] <szrhawaii> yeah it does
[09:36] <szrhawaii> i turn those off all the time
[09:36] <ubuntu> neither ubuntu or the gparted boot CD are detecing either of my hard drives, nor my sata DVD burner. they're all detected by the bios and detected by windows. what's going on?
[09:37] <contrast> strange. i have no idea then. sorry
[09:37] <szrhawaii> yeah ive been trying to figure that out myself
[09:38] <maxmahem> hmm...  I can't seem to launch nvidia sever settings now
[09:39] <contrast> ubuntu: what's the output of the command "ls -l /dev/sd*"?
[09:40] <ubuntu> ls: cannot access /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[09:41] <contrast> ubuntu: and "ls -l /dev/hd*"?
[09:42] <ubuntu> same
[09:42] <contrast> ubuntu: and you're not putting the quotes in the command, right?
[09:45] <ubuntu1> nope
[09:46] <maxmahem> no seems I have to restart x to configure twin-view (and disable x in my other monitor).
[09:46] <contrast> not sure. you might google your motherboard and see if anyone else on linux has had issues with it. that's the only thing i can think of.
[09:49] <arianna> ciao
[09:55] <jeff_> hi
[10:04] <maxmahem> hmm.. twinview is working okay, but is there a way I can set that other monitor as another desktop instead of extending my display over there?
[10:05] <maxmahem> It's a TV, so the resolution isn't all that great.
[10:06] <joh6nn> anyone know why my update notifier might have disappeared, and how i can get it back?
[10:17] <kim> Hello.
[10:17] <genii> !hi
[10:17] <kim> !닉 Akari
[10:17] <kim> Can you speak korean?
[10:17] <genii> kim: No
[10:18] <kim> Can you speak Esperanto?
[10:19] <genii> No. Let me look if there is a Korean or Esperanto channel to direct you to
[10:19] <kniolet> there is #ubuntu-eo but only 1 person there
[10:20] <genii> Perhaps #ubuntu-kr   or #ubuntu-kp
[10:21] <fdoving> joh6nn: you can restart it by executing 'update-notifier-kde' from the alt+f2 run dialog.
[10:22] <genii> Hmm. Apparenlt no Korean loco channel exists yet
[10:22] <joh6nn> fdoving: tried that, no dice
[10:22] <Mizunashi> I can't speak English wel..
[10:22] <Mizunashi> I want to server "HanIRC"...
[10:22] <joh6nn> it runs, but stays in the background and never actually, you know, "notifies." :|
[10:22] <fdoving> joh6nn: you can check that it is running by hitting ctrl+esc and search for 'update' you'll see a python process in the list.
[10:22] <fdoving> joh6nn: are you sure there are updates available?
[10:22] <genii> Mizunashi:  /server irc.hanirc.org
[10:23] <joh6nn> fdoving: apt-get upgrade says yes
[10:23] <Mizunashi> Isn't there firefox in kubuntu?
[10:23] <genii> Mizunashi: Yes, firefox comes for Kubuntu but is not there by default
[10:23] <fdoving> joh6nn: try to run 'sudo aptitude update' then see if it appears.
[10:24] <Mizunashi> I am installing firefox..
[10:25] <joh6nn> fdoving: still not showing...
[10:25] <Mizunashi> In Fedora, there is firefox...
[10:25] <genii> Mizunashi: I am told the channel #ubuntu-ko     is for korean support
[10:26] <Mizunashi> Ho. ubuntu-ko is korean channel..
[10:26] <genii> Mizunashi: Yes
[10:27] <fdoving> joh6nn: check alt+f2 - 'kdesudo software-properties-kde' -> updates [tab] - see what it says about check for updates.
[10:28] <joh6nn> fdoving: software-properties-kde not found
[10:28] <Mizunashi> Do you know animation "Aria the~"?
[10:28] <joh6nn> ok, found it
[10:29] <joh6nn> had to call it explicitly from /usr/bin/
[10:29] <CrypTom> hi all, I use the server edition and "cat /proc/meminfo" shows me that almost 10GB RAM are used, how can I see, which process uses so much memory? (a "ps aux" only shows 2 processes using more than 1%)
[10:29] <joh6nn> fdoving: everything there seems in order; "check for updates" is checked, and it's set to "only notify", so it should be telling me about it
[10:30] <fdoving> joh6nn: is it set to check for updates daily+
[10:30] <fdoving> s/+/?
[10:30] <joh6nn> yes
[10:30] <JohnyB> CrypTom install htop: apt-get install htop and run it, then sort processes by CPU
[10:31] <JohnyB> or by RAM
[10:31] <JohnyB> depending on your needs
[10:31] <joh6nn> fdoving: do you know where the config file for this is?
[10:31] <joh6nn> i trawled through /etc/ looking for it, couldn't find it
[10:32] <CrypTom> JohnyB: ok, I'll try
[10:34] <CrypTom> JohnyB: I cant sort, hitting the F6 key does not work
[10:34] <JohnyB> CrypTom: ok, don't forget the <F6> key and select MEM% to see processes by memory
[10:35] <CrypTom> JohnyB: I'm logged in via ssh, F1-F10 don't seem to do anything
[10:36] <JohnyB> hmmm
[10:37] <CrypTom> JohnyB: ah, found it, my new keyboards forces me to press another key (function key) while pressing the F-buttons
[10:37] <JohnyB> oh :) Great
[10:37] <CrypTom> JohnyB: although it looks like the behavior is inverted, as I dont want the special function but the normal one :-)
[10:38] <admin1> hello
[10:39] <JohnyB> CrypTom what do you mean by inverted behavior?
[10:39] <admin1> I am trying to install the proper video drivers for my legacy nvidia tnt video card, but I don't know how.  Could someone help me please?
[10:40] <admin1> I have hte drivers downloaded to this computer, but I can't seem to get them to install
[10:40] <joh6nn> admin1: what happens when you try to install them?
[10:41] <CrypTom> JohnyB: I have paintings in orange on the F keys, and there is a function key also painted in orange. I have to hit the function key in order to get the F-behavior instead of the special (orange painted) behavior
[10:41] <admin1> I get the message "Cannot open file"
[10:41] <admin1> what am I doing wrong?
[10:41] <fdoving> joh6nn: update-nofifier itself uses the configs from update-notifier-common which is in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[10:42] <fdoving> joh6nn: dpkg -L update-notifier-common for a list of files to check out.
[10:42] <admin1> I am also trying to set this computer up for web hosting, but I think that I have that sorta figured out
[10:43] <joh6nn> fdoving: thanks
[10:43] <JohnyB> CrypTom lol I have nothing in orange man I don't know what are you talking about. Here's how I do: I open the program, I do press F6, select MEM%, and it's sorted by RAM.   It says to do that on the nvidia website
[10:46] <joh6nn> are you doing that from a terminal?
[10:46] <admin1> I am using the Konsole terminal progream to try it
[10:46] <genii> admin1: You need   sh ./filename.sh     if in same dir as it is
[10:46] <admin1> and the driver file is on the desktop
[10:46] <admin1> how do I switch dir?
[10:47] <admin1> and find the file in the terminal?
[10:47] <genii> admin1:  cd ~/Desktop
[10:47] <admin1> and sorry for all the questions, but I am new to kubuntu
[10:47] <admin1> okay
[10:48] <CrypTom> JohnyB: no worries, its probably something that needs an addition program (probably under windows) to run properly, anyway, it works now!
[10:48] <admin1> okay that command did not work
[10:49] <genii> admin1: I'm pretty sure it did work, if you typed it correctly
[10:49] <admin1> I just installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy last night night, and now I am trying to teach myself how to use it
[10:49] <joh6nn> admin1 try "sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.06-pkg1.run"
[10:50] <genii> admin1: If it doesn't say anything to you like some error when you did:  cd ~/Desktop                         then it was successful
[10:50] <admin1> it does say that the dir does not exsist
[10:51] <joh6nn> admin1: unlike windows, linux is case sensitive, so you have to make sure to type Desktop and not desktop
[10:51] <admin1> oh okay
[10:52] <joh6nn> also, now would be a good time to double-check and make sure the file is actually on the desktop. :)
[10:52] <admin1> it is
[10:53] <admin1> I just tried running it, but it says that the file needs to be run as root.  What does that mean?
[10:53] <faileas> admin1: thats wierd. sudo should work
[10:54] <admin1> the driver program said that it needs to run under root
[10:54] <admin1> the driver program said that it needs to run under root
[10:54] <webaska> hi.. i forgot password to phpmyadmin..its quite embarrasing
[10:54] <admin1> II am the only user on this computer
[10:55] <joh6nn> admin1: run the command again, but this time, add the word "sudo" to the front of it
[10:55] <admin1> what is root?
[10:55] <fulvio> ciao
[10:55] <joh6nn> admin1: root is the linux name for administrator
[10:56] <fulvio> \list
[10:56] <webaska> any way to change phpmyadmin password?
[10:56] <fulvio> !lst
[10:57] <admin1> okay it said that I am running an x server, and that I am supposed to exit x before running the program.  how do I do that?
[10:57] <joh6nn> fdoving: i think that the problem i've been having is that update-notifier isn't being started when i login to kde.  do you know how it's supposed to be launched at login?
[10:57] <joh6nn> admin1 you'll need to log out.
[10:58] <admin1> okay
[10:58] <admin1> then what?
[10:58] <admin1> if I log back in, it will run the X server again
[10:58] <joh6nn> once you've logged out and you're at the log-in screen, there should be a menu option for "console log-in" or something similar
[10:58] <genii> admin1: Yes. Also the login screen itself is in X
[10:58] <admin1> okay
[10:59] <joh6nn> genii: oh, hmm.  yeah, wasn't thinking of that
[10:59] <admin1> how do I get out of X then to install these drivers?
[10:59] <joh6nn> admin1: best bet would be to restart, then.
[10:59] <admin1> okay
[10:59] <admin1> then what?
[10:59] <genii> admin1: crl-alt-f1    then:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop          (or kdm-kde4)
[11:00] <admin1> okay I will have to write these commands down
[11:00] <genii> admin1: then execute the commands. Then: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[11:00] <joh6nn> or you could listen to genii.  he's apparently in a different time zone from me.
[11:00] <maxmahem> hmm... does kubuntu use RandR 1.2?
[11:00] <admin1> okay
[11:02] <genii> !info libxrandr2
[11:03] <genii> maxmahem: 1.2.3-1  apparently
[11:03] <maxmahem> hmm.. cool. thanks.
[11:04] <genii> joh6nn: Actually it's 6 am here but I'm strangely alert :)
[11:04] <joh6nn> yeah, it's 6am for me, too, but i'm fighting with Perl's Net::Amazon
[11:04] <joh6nn> :)
[11:05] <genii> joh6nn: Ah, I feel for you
[11:05] <maxmahem> okay, if I installed a package, but it didn't show up on my menu, where would I find it?
[11:06] <genii> maxmahem: It might be a command line package. What was the name of it?
[11:07] <maxmahem> Multiple Screens, a gtk interface for xrandr
[11:07] <genii> joh6nn: Interesting, theres a package for it, libnet-amazon-perl    and apt-cache search amazon    pulls up some others
[11:07] <genii> maxmahem: Well, theres yer problem. KDE isn't gtk
[11:07] <joh6nn> maxmahem: for me, krandrtray is under system, in the menu
[11:08] <maxmahem> Yes, I tried that. And while I can resize my monitor, it doesn't let me configure my multiple monitors like I need to.
[11:08] <joh6nn> genii: oh, i've got it installed.  the problem is that it appears that either the module is buggy, or amazon is.  take your pic.
[11:09] <genii> joh6nn: Probably the module, if i had to guess.
[11:09] <maxmahem> so its a gnome bit eh? hmm. shoot. that won't help me when running KDE then.
[11:15] <nascentmind> hi. I disabled the restricted ati drivers using envy-ng and suddenly my X stopped working.. i recovered the xorg.conf file and now kde starts up with the auth screen.. i give my username and password.. kde loads and dies while loading..
[11:15] <nascentmind> there is a startup sound being played which dies in the middle.. how can I recover my kde?
[11:21] <nascentmind> can anybody help me?
[11:22] <joh6nn> nascentmind: what's envy-ng?
[11:22] <nascentmind> joh6nn: the restricted driver enabling thing..
[11:23] <joh6nn> ah
[11:23] <nascentmind> there was one default one.. forgot the name ..
[11:23] <nascentmind> and i couldn't use the apply button..
[11:23] <joh6nn> so you disabled the ati driver you were using
[11:23] <joh6nn> hmm
[11:23] <nascentmind> yes
[11:23] <joh6nn> i'd say your X config is borked
[11:23] <joh6nn> try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:23] <nascentmind> joh6nn: yes it screwed up.. and then i did a X -configure..
[11:24] <nascentmind> now X comes up.. kde screws up in between..
[11:24] <ubuntu> help me pls
[11:24] <ubuntu> heeeelp me please
[11:24] <nascentmind> how can i re enable the fglrx driver now? and what does envy-ng do anyway?
[11:24] <ubuntu> heeeelp me please
[11:24] <ubuntu> heeeelp me please
[11:25] <jussi01> ubuntu: state your issue
[11:26] <joh6nn> nascentmind: no clue what envy-ng does in the background, but the if you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it'll bring you through an ncurses wizard for configuring X
[11:26] <nascentmind> joh6nn: isn't that the same thing as X -configure?
[11:26] <joh6nn> nascentmind: no clue
[11:27] <nascentmind> joh6nn: i am sorry to say this but kubuntu is really unstable..
[11:27] <joh6nn> nascentmind: are you using 8.10?
[11:27] <nascentmind> yes
[11:27] <ubuntu> I have live KUBUNTU and my quest is: is here something as ICQ????
[11:27] <nascentmind> intrepid
[11:27] <jussi01> ubuntu: the program called kopete
[11:27] <ubuntu> thx
[11:28] <ubuntu> jussi01 is installed in this live system<
[11:28] <joh6nn> nascentmind: yeah, *buntu does 2 releases a year; the april release is stable. the october release is experimental.  you're using the experimental release. :|
[11:28] <NCommander> joh6nn, that isn't true
[11:28] <jussi01> nascentmind: you can reset your settings which may help with: mv .kde .kdeold
[11:28] <NCommander> Every release is considered a stable and supported release
[11:28] <jussi01> ubuntu: yes
[11:28] <joh6nn> NCommander: facts occasionally get in the way of the truth.
[11:28] <ubuntu> jussi01> thx veeerz much
[11:29] <NCommander> joh6nn, so your saying I'm wrong?
[11:29]  * NCommander does note that 8.10 Kubuntu has some serious issues, hence why auto-upgrade from 8.04 Kubuntu is disabled out of the box
[11:30] <joh6nn> no, i'm saying that the fact that October releases are always best efforts at stable doesn't change the fact that they're testing grounds for new ideas.  hence, they are experimental
[11:30] <nascentmind> any chance that i can recover kde?
[11:31] <joh6nn> which is at least part of why the install i'm on at the moment crashes once a day
[11:31] <jussi01> nascentmind: did you see my last comment directed at you?
[11:31] <nascentmind> sorry
[11:31] <NCommander> joh6nn, You do realize that you can't upgrade to .10 releases without installing the previous .04 one?
[11:32] <joh6nn> ...
[11:33] <joh6nn> NCommander: i'm sorry, i can't help feeling like that's both a non-sequitur, and sort of a ridiculous question
[11:33] <nascentmind> i am quite sure that when there is an upgrade it clobbers the xorg file or something..
[11:34] <tboxmy> hi all!
[11:34] <nascentmind> something really bad is happening when there is an upgrade
[11:34] <NCommander> joh6nn, I'm being frank that by says that every .10 is "experimental" is trash talk. Spreading misinformation only serves to hurt FOSS and (K)ubuntu
[11:34] <tboxmy> just did an update on intrepid and it included OOo 3.0
[11:34] <NCommander> Granted, the last .10 release has issues, mostly due to KDE4 still not being quite there yet. There IS a reason why the auto-upgrade is disabled
[11:36] <tboxmy> i cant start OOo 3 at all
[11:36] <nascentmind> who hoo.. finally my kde starts..
[11:37] <nascentmind> jussi01: that did the trick..
[11:37] <tboxmy> anyone having same prob?
[11:37] <nascentmind> and the most funniest part i am checking glxgears now... and i am getting somewhere around 420 fps.. and when i had the driver i was getting 40 fps.
[11:37] <jussi01> nascentmind: great.
[11:38] <maxmahem> If I wanted to be a traitor and install gnome on top of kde here, how would I do that?
[11:38] <nascentmind> jussi01: should i install the ati driver manually?
[11:38] <Unksi> maxmahem: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <nascentmind> or should i use that envy-ng again?
[11:38] <jussi01> nascentmind: if it aint broke, dont fix it?
[11:39] <maxmahem> Unksi: that rather then using adept? (though I couldn't seem to find it in there).
[11:39] <nascentmind> jussi01: when i initially installed ati drivers i was getting a fantastic 1000 fps.. and then after the upgrade it screwed up..
[11:39] <Unksi> maxmahem: you can use adept as well, its just easier to give out instructions to cli :)
[11:39] <nascentmind> there was a kernel update too.. would that be the cause?
[11:40] <jussi01> nascentmind: you use envy at your own risk, and I wouldnt be suprised if the kernel update did it.
[11:41] <jussi01> you could try envy again, but again, your risk.
[11:41] <nascentmind> jussi01: yes atleast i know how to recover from a complete X collapse..
[11:42] <nascentmind> jussi01: what would a kernel update do to the driver?
[11:42] <jussi01> nascentmind: as I understand it, the driver is kernel specific. with the normal one, it will remake it when the kernel is updated, but envy doesnt do that
[11:43] <jussi01> thats my un derstanding, I may be wrong
[11:43] <nascentmind> normal one is the open source one you mean?
[11:45] <jussi01> no, normal one is installed throught hardware drivers in system
[11:46] <nascentmind> so how can i remake it?
[11:46] <jussi01> nascentmind: you want the _latest_ or just the stable?
[11:46] <nascentmind> should i install it manually? if i install it manually do i need to reinstall the drivers again when i get a next kernel update?
[11:47] <nascentmind> jussi01: i would prefer latest as i have an alsa issue too which is being corrected in the proposed updates.
[11:47] <jussi01> nascentmind: my suggestion would be to go to kmenu - system - hardware drivers and install that and see how you go
[11:54] <johann-pierre> how can i download kde 4.2 and install it?
[11:55] <william> I have got my first kubuntu laptop running nice an smooth under intrepid ;-)  One feature I was really looking forward to under kde was the desktop cube which I don't have. Do I need to install this separately?
[11:55] <genii> johann-pierre: It's in the topic
[11:56] <william> johann, you have to enable a development package source. But I would recommend against it, I tried kde 4.2 but found loads of bugs so switched back to 4.1. It took me ages to remove everything I installed with kde 4.2
[11:56] <johann-pierre> william, what command can i type in the konsole to install kde 4.1 ?
[11:57] <william> if you are using kubuntu you should have it, if not you can type  'sudo apt-get install kde'
[11:57] <william> that's what I did after I remove kde 4.2
[11:57] <johann-pierre> aaah thanks
[11:57] <johann-pierre> my kubuntu is a bit outta date
[11:58] <johann-pierre> maybe i should have rather installed debian on this, but with it on the edge of a new release why bother to download :/
[11:58] <hyper_ch> kde 4.2 beta 2 is much better than 4.1
[11:58] <johann-pierre> everything in IT seems to be: future is now, is it too late for that?  What if you have is too old? etc.
[11:58] <maxmahem> hmm apprently installing gome removed firefox
[11:58] <william> not that the kde package pulls in alot of kde including games, edu, etc... if you don't want all that stuff you should use a more clever approach and maybe just install the apps in kde you actually use
[11:58] <johann-pierre> hyper_ch:  what is the command to install it?"
[11:58] <hyper_ch> johann-pierre: 4.2?
[11:58] <nascentmind> jussi01: yes there is a problem with it i guess.. I tried installing it with hardware drivers and the fps is lower than the normal ones..
[11:58] <johann-pierre> yea
[11:59] <hyper_ch> johann-pierre: adding the according PPA repos
[11:59] <william> hyper_ch, I tried kde 4.2 beta 2 but had loads of corruption on my screen, it may have been a problem between the latest nvidia 180 driver and kde 4.2 though
[11:59] <jussi01> nascentmind: looks like envy for you then
[11:59] <johann-pierre> Ag I'll wait for the final release
[11:59] <PSiL0> !fstab
[11:59] <hyper_ch> william: all the people I know are a lot happier with 4.2 than 4.1
[11:59] <johann-pierre> why won't my kubuntu browse my windows network?
[11:59] <nascentmind> jussi01: k i deactivated it.. lemme see whether my X will screw up again :)
[12:00] <jussi01> nascentmind: good luck. :)
[12:00] <johann-pierre> how can i set the timeout on dolphin's network browsing?
[12:00] <william> hyper_ch, It was probably a but that affect my grahics card and the new 180 drivers. Although they work really well under kde 4.1
[12:00] <PSiL0> stupid fstab... some days it automounts my ntfs partition fine, and then it goes on the blink and I have to manually re-edit again
[12:00] <PSiL0> so annoying
[12:01] <hyper_ch> william: what the reason to use 1.80 instead of 1.77?
[12:01] <william> Question: How does ubuntu handle new releases of kde. will ubuntu provide official kde packages for intrepid or will they be for the new kubuntu version
[12:02] <william> 1.77 was slow on my 8600GT M
[12:02] <hyper_ch> william: nope, release number stay
[12:02] <william> 1.80 is FAST!
[12:02] <nascentmind> jussi01: k it reboots fine.. man this is classic.. using ati drivers lowers the fps and removing it increases it.. from 60 to 420..
[12:02] <hyper_ch> william: how do you measuer "slow" and "fast"?
[12:02] <william> with 1.80 I have enabled opengl rendering mode + shared memory
[12:03] <william> hyper_ch, switching between windows/plasma applets was very slow with 1.77 on my graphics card
[12:03] <william> unbearable
[12:03] <nascentmind> jussi01: k now lemme try with envy *sigh*
[12:03] <william> scrolling was awefull too
[12:03] <hyper_ch> I got a 9500gt with the 1.77 drivers and everything is fine
[12:03] <jussi01> nascentmind: again, good luck
[12:04] <PSiL0> anyone knows how to make fstab less tempermental?
[12:04] <william> hyper_ch, maybe it's difference between kde 4.2 and kde 4.1?
[12:04] <nascentmind> oh and the best part is during the process of enabling.. kmix crashes .. now i just can't understand the connection between these 2..
[12:04] <hyper_ch> PSiL0: fstab doesn't alter itself
[12:05] <maxmahem> hmm should I get a success notification at the end of apt-get instal or when it gives me back cursor is it just done?
[12:05] <william> hyper_ch, when you select files under dolphin or the folder view, does your cursor take time to drow the selection box?
[12:05] <hyper_ch> william: I don't use dolphin
[12:05] <william> mine had a delay/lag under 1.77
[12:05] <stdin> maxmahem: no error means no error :)
[12:06] <william> ok, how about under folder view?
[12:06] <maxmahem> stdin: sounds good to me
[12:06] <hyper_ch> william: what folder view?
[12:06] <PSiL0> hyper_ch: I wish that was the case... It seems like everytime I reinstall a major app (this time openoffice3), the fstab settings that work so well the past several days do not mount my ntfs partition
[12:06] <hyper_ch> PSiL0: it is the case.. fstab does not alter itself automatically
[12:06] <PSiL0> hyper_ch: I meant to say automount
[12:07] <hyper_ch> PSiL0: you considered that it could be because of the "ntfs"?
[12:07] <william> hyper_ch, when I click on a plasma applets focus transfers instantly now (it did not before). E.g: I can have focus on a window in the forground and immediatly select files in my plasma folder view with now lag. Before with 1.77 it was unbearable
[12:07] <PSiL0> hyper_ch: then why are the automount settings that work fine for several days suddenly trip up after installing a package?
[12:08] <william> PSiL0, I recommend mounding external filesystems manually via kde
[12:08] <william> but that's just my preference
[12:09] <hyper_ch> william: I don't know what you mean or what you do or where you have problems
[12:09] <hyper_ch> william: clicking on a plasma applet focus?
[12:09] <hyper_ch> PSiL0: it is your assumption that it stops working after installing a package
[12:09] <nascentmind> jussi01: k same bad performance.. next disabling the driver and installing it manually..
[12:09] <william> PSiL0, what is the last modification date on your fstab?
[12:10] <PSiL0> william: I would assume a week ago, but since I re-edited it to where my ntfs partition automounts at startup, I do not know
[12:11] <PSiL0> william: I just grabbed the ntfs-g settings from syslog after manually mounting the drive through dolphin and added it in to fstab line for that drive
[12:11] <william> PSiL0, if you think that the installation of openoffice3 is modifying fstab then run a test. record your last modificationd date, remove then reinstall openoffice3....
[12:11] <PSiL0> as well as adding uid=1000 for myself
[12:11] <william> it's a vfat?
[12:12] <nascentmind> jussi01: ah.. envy has a bug in it..
[12:12] <PSiL0> william: umm, I removed openoffice3 originally because it crashed on the first instance, and needed a second instance to load properly..
[12:12] <nascentmind> jussi01: X crashed again..
[12:12] <PSiL0> after removing it, I just reinstalled it using the deb package from openoffice3.org
[12:12] <PSiL0> william: then my ntfs drive wouldn't automount or mount manually
[12:12] <william> PSiL0, I don't understand what openoffice has todo with fstab
[12:13] <william> I think it must have been some other update that you pulled in with openoffice
[12:13] <william> maybe a kernel update?
[12:13] <PSiL0> william: me neither, which is why it is so particular that I have to manually reedit fstab every few weeks to automount the same drive
[12:13] <maxmahem> I'm still trying to trouble shoot my sound card. Should I be getting multipe device listings from aplay -l?
[12:14] <william> I used to use some software that would modify fstab, I think it was ivman or something like that
[12:14] <PSiL0> nah, my fstab settings worked fine after updating the kernal from backports to fix an intel wifi bug
[12:14] <william> it is more likely you have some other software installed that is trying to manage your nfs for you
[12:14] <PSiL0> I don't think openoffice3 would pull a kernal update, especially after I check which files are being updated
[12:15] <william> can you check your package list to see if you have ivman installed?
[12:15] <PSiL0> aptitude search ivman*
[12:15] <PSiL0> p   ivman
[12:15] <PSiL0> nope...
[12:15] <william> what about pmount?
[12:16] <PSiL0> nada
[12:16] <william> hmm, Does anyone here know of any other userspace automounting software?
[12:16] <william> something that my be modifying fstab?
[12:16] <csc__> hello
[12:16] <csc__> please help me with usb-creator. i am formatting an usb disc in various way, but NO parition is recosgnized by usb-creator? what am i doing weong? in the first case i made a 250GB partition with fat32, bootable, in a second case a smaller one, in the third case I used an ext partition NONE is recognized by usb-creator. i am stuck. as last case i plugged in an old small usb stick and it was recognized immediatly. please help
[12:17] <PSiL0> here is my fstab entry: /dev/sda5    /media/Documents ntfs-3g rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,uhelper=hal,locale=en_US.UTF-8   0 0
[12:17] <thomas> bonjour !!!
[12:17] <william> PSiL0, that fstab entry looks fine. I am pretty certain that whatever is removing or modifying it must be some kind of automount software
[12:17] <PSiL0> now it is automounting my ntfs partition
[12:18] <PSiL0> this one worked fine for awhile: /dev/sda5       /media/Documents        ntfs-3g    defaults,gid=4,noatime   0       0
[12:18] <PSiL0> then suddenly no beans
[12:19] <PSiL0> william: the funny thing is that when this entry doesn't automount the ntfs partition, I go check it and I see nothing is altered...
[12:19] <william> PSiL0, you wish to mount automatically at boot correct?
[12:20] <PSiL0> william: yup
[12:20] <johann-pierre> What does mark shuttleworth actually have to do with this operating system?
[12:20] <genii> johann-pierre: His company Canonical basically sponsors it
[12:20] <johann-pierre> ohh
[12:21] <johann-pierre> so its sponsorred?
[12:21] <william> maybe your system is trying to mount your nfs before you network connection is up?
[12:21] <dwidmann> johann-pierre: paid developers &c
[12:21] <johann-pierre> interresting
[12:21] <stdin> johann-pierre: canonical pay for developers and hosting for LoCo's and free CD's via shipit
[12:22] <johann-pierre> aaah ok
[12:22] <genii> johann-pierre: How else did you think they could mail you cd's ? ;)
[12:22] <stdin> oh, and sponsoring non-paid devs to go to development summits
[12:22] <william> johann-pierre, I don't actually use nfs but I would suggest you find exactly which part of the sytem is responsible for mounting your nfs and when.
[12:22]  * genii steals one of stdin's Google burritos
[12:23] <PSiL0> william: true, but wouldn't that negate the automount action from the getgo?  Anyways, I usually run through two diff connections from my uni and my apt.  Yet, I never seen any automount failures when booting between two different locations
[12:23] <william> I am currious about the uhelper=hal option in  there
[12:24] <PSiL0> william: I mean, I can re-edit the fstab entry to get my drive to automount again if the current settings are suddenly no good here on my laptop
[12:24] <william> does that mean that hal managers your nfs mount?
[12:24] <william> if hal managers your nfs then maybe you should add the option noauto in there to stop the system trying to mount at boot?
[12:24] <PSiL0> william: Most likely since I see that entry in syslogs whenever I manually mount my drive through dolphin
[12:25] <william> oh, that is why it's in there
[12:25] <william> PSiL0, hang on a sec
[12:25] <PSiL0> william: If I add noauto, doesn't that defeat the purpose of having that entry in fstab in the first place?
[12:25] <william> maybe uhelper is implies noauto
[12:25] <william> PSiL0, yeah it does
[12:25] <johann-pierre> genii: I thought that perhaps its an in-house commercial distribution
[12:26] <william> PSiL0, could you try booting without the uhelper=hal option to see what happens?
[12:26] <PSiL0> william: well, when "defaults" was in that entry (with uhelper=hal omitted), my drive automounted for awhile
[12:27] <william> try it because I think that if you specify uhelper it implies noauto
[12:27] <PSiL0> when that flubbed after working for several days, I looked at syslogs to see what options were being enacted when manually mounting this drive
[12:27] <william> ie uhelper means that the system is not automounting because it thinks you want a userspace help to handle the mounting instead
[12:28] <PSiL0> hmm... maybe you are right, then again I have this option in fstab, rebooted, and my drive automounted just fine
[12:28] <PSiL0> william: however, knowing specifically what it implies does help
[12:29] <maxmahem> hmm should my kmix have a 'switches' tab?
[12:32] <maxmahem> arg, trying to configure this sound card is making me crazy.
[12:32] <fjellrev1> I have a trouble with movie files not playing all the way through,usually on files longer than an hour.i can't find if it's ark or if its vlc,anyone have similar problems??
[12:35] <dmmainou> hi guys I'm new using linux in general. could someone please help mi with a basic q about gksudo scripting
[12:36] <stdin> dmmainou: seeing as gksudo is Gtk/Gnome, you should ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:36] <nascentmind> jussi01: k the conclusion is using ati drivers decreases performance :)
[12:37] <dmmainou> I'm running kubuntu... maybe Im not using the right command
[12:37] <stdin> dmmainou: Kubuntu uses "kdesudo"
[12:37] <nascentmind> does installing pre - released updates harmful?
[12:37] <dmmainou> ok....that explains a couple of things....
[12:38] <stdin> you can install and use gksudo (from the gksu package), it just won't look very nice
[12:38] <dwidmann> ack, :( That explains a thing or two ... X is using 80% CPU
[12:39] <genii> stdin: Interestingly gksudo doesn't work in Konsole and kdesudo doesn't work in Terminal
[12:39] <dmmainou> one last q .  I have a network drive that becomes available only after the Wlan is on. since it doesnt work as a reular ip drive (works on mac address) I need to wait and manually mount it. I am trying to create a  script so my wife can click on an icon and mount it ... is there any way to avoid the password?
[12:40] <stdin> genii: odd, I don't see why that'd happen
[12:41] <genii> stdin: Me either. But thats how it works, I've tried
[12:42] <xbmc> hi people
[12:42] <^Manu> i just installed kubuntu
[12:42] <^Manu> it was working nice until i did the auto update..
[12:43] <^Manu> and now my taskbar is all messed up.
[12:43] <^Manu> its like it's kinda mirrored..
[12:43] <^Manu> the 'K' is on the right..
[12:43] <^Manu> and if i move it around, it forgets immediately.
[12:43] <^Manu> the clock is on the left,,,
[12:43] <stdin> !enter
[12:43] <^Manu> and if i click the 'K', the shutdown menu is first on the left.. :/
[12:44] <stdin> dmmainou: if it requires root privileges then you can try and edit /etc/sudoers and allow the command without a password (see man sudoers). but you'll have to do a bit of reading to do it
[12:44] <^Manu> any ideas? :S
[12:45] <stdin> what version of KDE are you running?
[12:45] <^Manu> kubuntu 4.10, fully updated..
[12:45] <^Manu> how can i get the exact version number?
[12:46] <dmmainou> ok thanks so much to point me in the right direction
[12:46] <stdin> ^Manu: open konqueror and go to Help -> About KDE
[12:47] <^Manu> 4.1.3
[12:47] <dmmainou> one last thing.... once I have the scripts mount and unmount I wan to make sure the drive gets umounted before shutdown in which file/ shuting sown script should I include my own script
[12:47] <^Manu> also, the taskbar seems to like to resize its self occasionally..
[12:49] <stdin> dmmainou: best thing is to make a script in /etc/init.d and create links in /etc/rc0.d and /etc/rc6.d (everything in /etc/rc0.d get's run at shut down, everything in /etc/rc6.d gets run at reboot)
[12:52] <stdin> use "sudo update-rc.d script_name stop 31 0 6" to add the links
[12:52] <^Manu> managed to break it :(
[12:52] <dmmainou> Ok thanks so much... good night.
[12:56] <^Manu> this sort of thing keeps happening; i ran a fullscreen app, and now the desktop is half off the screen..
[12:56] <^Manu> imagine the desktop surface, the same res as the monitor, but shifted so it's only partly on the monitor..
[12:57] <^Manu> with just black in the empty parts.. but i can move windows into the black area...
[13:02] <maxmahem> minor problem, KWin appears to be crashing every time I start up KDE. Or at least I'm getting this notification window. the contents:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/99595/
[13:02] <Niski_> Can anyone help me set up scim so that I can enable japanese input, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu the fourth step proves to be a problem, I've already added the language and downloaded the files from system settings -> regional & language, but I'm getting no extra icons in the taskbar, nor have I been able to find any place to configure the program otherwise
[13:13] <wesley> how can i mount a iso ?
[13:19] <wesley> how can i mount a iso ?
[13:21] <wesley> how can i mount a iso ?
[13:21] <wesley> !mountiso
[13:52] <johann-pierre> where can i find argo uml?
[14:30] <^Manu> hi people..
[14:30] <^Manu> i have some problems with kubuntu's display settings tool..
[14:30] <^Manu> it seems to be really flakey..
[14:31] <^Manu> it seems to autodetect resolutions somehow, but the list it shows are not at all accurate or relevant..
[14:31] <^Manu> most of them are invalid modes..
[14:31] <^Manu> and it doesn't show most of the actual valid modes.
[14:31] <kommander> hi all :-)
[14:32] <^Manu> also, about 40% of the time, just when it feels like it, when i runt he display settings tool, just when i start the tool, it decides to change the resolution to something else, for no apparent reason, and most of the time to one of the random not-supported modes that it's populated the list with..
[14:32] <^Manu> i'm constant hitting ctrl-alt-backspace hoping that it might randomly choose a good one.
[14:33] <^Manu> i have 2 displays, it recognises them both, i want to set it so that it only uses one resolution on each display ever..
[14:33] <^Manu> but xorg.conf is basically empty now, so i don't know how to do that.
[14:33] <kommander> I just removed my old gentoo on a macbook pro, but I can't find a easy way to have the same keymap as on macos with kubuntu ... any idea ?
[14:33] <Niski_> what would be a good place to report a bug in gjiten?
[14:34] <hyper_ch> kommander: system settings -> regional & langugae
[14:34] <hyper_ch> Niski_: bugs.launchpad.net
[14:34] <Niski_> hyper_ch: do they bite newbies?
[14:34] <hyper_ch> Niski_: yes :)
[14:35] <hyper_ch> Niski_: just pretend that you are not a newbie
[14:35] <kommander> hyper_ch: yep ... I went there, but it's not really the same even if I set mac/fr
[14:35] <Niski_> could someone check if the bug is not just in my system, before I submit it?
[14:35] <hyper_ch> kommander: did you also select your keyboard model?
[14:37] <besitzer> wer spricht deutsch von euch ???
[14:37] <kommander> besitzer: ja, ein bischen
[14:37] <hyper_ch> !de | besitzer
[14:38] <hyper_ch> kommander: "bisschen"
[14:38] <hyper_ch> besitzer: no queries
[14:38] <hyper_ch> jussi01: you're OP?
[14:39] <jussi01> hyper_ch: /msg chanserv access #kubuntu
[14:39] <kommander> hyper_ch: Ich habe leider keine "estzet"
[14:39] <jussi01> hyper_ch: /msg chanserv access #kubuntu list
[14:40] <hyper_ch> jussi01: so you have OP access
[14:40] <jussi01> yes...
[14:40] <jussi01> why?
[14:40] <hyper_ch> jussi01: well, actually I need someone who can modify ubottu entries
[14:40] <jussi01> !bot
[14:41] <hyper_ch> jussi01: the "de" entry should be:   Deutschsprachige Hilfe für Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanälen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de
[14:41] <jussi01> hyper_ch: in the usage info is how to suggest a factoid change
[14:42] <hyper_ch> jussi01: if the wiki would load
[14:42] <jussi01> works here...
[14:42] <hyper_ch> now it does also
[14:42] <^Manu> whats that program to do the xserver autodetection stuff now?
[14:44] <hyper_ch> !de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe für Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanälen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, und #edubuntu-de
[14:44] <hyper_ch> back to my study books :(
[14:46] <xbmc> can anyone tell me how to manually configure x these days?
[14:46] <xbmc> the display autodetect stuff is seriously broken..
[14:46] <xbmc> i just want to tell it what modes to use..
[14:46] <xbmc> it tries to detect a bunch of display modes and makes a total mess..
[14:47] <xbmc> it gets it all wrong, for both my displays, and populates the list with a bunch of rubbish modes that are irrelevant, and most of them are insupported.
[14:47] <xbmc> .unsupported
[14:55] <xbmc> so i guess no one knows anything about the kubuntu display mode tool :(
[15:05] <ghostcube> hi folks i wanted to try dragonplayer i  get segfault at start on intrepid 64 bit
[15:07] <aitd> ghostcube: segfaults are usually related to memory allocation issues. I attempted to use dragonplayer with Hardy and had the same problem.
[15:07] <nick__> I need help with getting my Intel 536ep internal modem working
[15:07] <nick__> I tried the availible .deb drivers but I think I have problems with kernel version incompatibilities
[15:07] <nick__> can anyone help me?
[15:09] <jussi01> !modem | nick__
[15:09] <aitd> nick__ Have you tried to boot the computer to an earlier kernal from the boot up screen list? I have used that method to check for such things in the past.
[15:09] <nick__> aitd:  no I guess I should do that, but I'm unsure what version I need to select
[15:10] <nick__> aitd: I'm getting my drivers from here: http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntu-modems/web/modem-driver-downloads-for-536ep
[15:11] <user_> kk
[15:11] <aitd> nick__: I would just start by backing off one at a time until the modem problem resolves. I have also used this method by starting at the oldest known kernel version first.
[15:12] <ghostcube> aitd, hmm it worked at one time noe it just crashes at startup
[15:12] <ghostcube> and seems to be a phonon problem
[15:12] <ghostcube> it came with an update
[15:12] <nick__> aitd: but which of the three availible packages should I have installed before I start that troubleshooting process? with the current package that I have installed from that site (release 1) there appears to be no valid kernel module installed for the 536ep, or at least I cant identify it (modprobe -l returns no results for 536)
[15:13] <aitd> nick__: Also see if the manufacture has issued a linux version. You might luck out there. Do you have to use a modem?
[15:13] <nick__> aitd: I'm currently running <IP_ADDRESS> in 8.04
[15:13] <Yamato> If I have an Athlon 64 3400 and a gig of ram, would KDE 4.x run adequately?
[15:13] <nick__> aitd: well it looks like I do yes
[15:13] <nick__> most adsl modems dont have built in dialup modem do they?
[15:13] <nick__> aitd: I hate dialup modems, but the person whose pc this is is a bit of a cheap technophobe
[15:14] <nick__> aitd: am i right in thinking that 2.6.27 isnt availible for 8.04?
[15:15] <aitd> nick__: hmm.. understood.
[15:15] <vili> Hello, i just installed Kubuntu 8.10, and i just cant get my graphics driver work correctly. I installed v177 from restricted and this works better without drivers (and its not good then either...) i have GeForce 8400MG...
[15:15] <aitd> nick__: I believe that is correct.
[15:15] <Yamato> Or should I go with KDE 3.5x?
[15:15] <ibrar> Any body knows how to increase resultion in ThinkPad lenovo T60 (kbuntu 8.10)?
[15:15] <nick__> aitd: hm ok
[15:16] <nick__> aitd: it seems to me that there is a package for  2.6.24-16-generic, but I am running *.22 which causes the module to be unable to be loaded, sot hen if I downgrade as you originally suggested then It may work with that package -?
[15:16] <nick__> *then
[15:17] <user_> (ma come funzina qui??)
[15:17] <user_> o
[15:17] <user_> nn parla nessuno?
[15:17] <vili> anyone?
[15:18] <user_> just one
[15:18] <aitd> nick__: The last unit I worked with modem issues had *.16 kernel version as I recall. I double checked the driver download md5sum and then reinstalled it. Worked after that.
[15:18] <nick__> aitd: because with the current page that I have isntalled which is supped to be for 2.6.22 + "newer" kernels, I get the folowing output, so there appears to be no driver to try
[15:18] <nick__> nick@Bonfield1:~$ sudo modprobe -l | grep 536
[15:18] <nick__> /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-generic/kernel/drivers/ata/pata_cs5536.ko
[15:18] <nick__> aitd: hm ok ill double check that as well then
[15:25] <aitd> vili: Have you reviewed your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? It will list the resolutions. I usually end up manually editing them.
[15:25] <nick__> can anyone tell me why 2.6.24-17 isnt availible for 8.04 when -16 -18 &  -19 is availble?
[15:25] <nick__> or if there is a way of installing -17 despite the fact it isnt listed in the repos?
[15:27] <vili> rofl, now i found what was wrong. I installed x86 instead of 64 what i am using :D
[15:27] <nick__> oh wel, thanks aitd very much for your help, much appreciated! :)
[15:28] <aitd> vili: Problem solved then.. :)
[15:29] <aitd> nick__: np. No answers about the *.17 query. I would have to look that one up too.
[15:29] <nick__> ok thanks again :) ill restart and try a different kernel now
[15:34] <greenmang0> logout, shutdown, restart not working in Kubuntu 8.10 for me...
[15:34] <uni_> restart x
[15:34] <greenmang0> can anyone help me?
[15:34] <greenmang0> uni_: i tried everything...
[15:34] <uni_> sorry, sudo reboot
[15:35] <greenmang0> uni_: i even tried deleting ~/.kde
[15:35] <greenmang0> uni_: didn't help
[15:35] <kniolet> you mean like it never works, not just this one time?
 Look xorg
[15:36] <greenmang0> uni_: do you mean xorg log?
Wait a sec
[15:37] <greenmang0> uni_: OK
[15:38] <greenmang0> kniolet: it never worked for me
I have in view of xorg.conf, look there
[15:38] <greenmang0> kniolet: i tried creating new user and it worked
[15:40] <greenmang0> uni_: it works for new user..
  hmm...
[15:41] <greenmang0> what should i look for in xorg.conf... since intrepid not have handed over that job for HAL i suppose.. xml files
[15:41] <greenmang0> uni_: if you want to change resolution... go edit xml files... no xorg.conf :(
  i edit a xorg, and this problem is disappeared
[15:43] <greenmang0> uni_: the thing is that, since i use 'shutdown' kde doesn't saves session... so it is not able to remeber plasma widgets positions and even kmix and yakuake
[15:44] <greenmang0> uni_: what did you change there?
 Do not hurry up, I from Russia, am heavy to translate quickly)))))
[15:46] <greenmang0> uni_: I am also not an englishman... but tell me what should I edit in xorg.conf
 i need to look a xorg.conf
[15:47] <maxbaldwin> I'm english, but that probably doesn't help.
[15:47] <greenmang0> maxbaldwin: :)
[15:49] <greenmang0> uni_: http://paste.debian.net/25162/
[15:49] <greenmang0> here it is
[15:49] <greenmang0> my xorg.conf
 it is all?
 О_о
 The only thing, reboot, by means of the button in front of the computer, if this Will not help *don't know*
[16:00] <uni_> есть кто с россии??
[16:00] <soulchild> Hi all,...is there a way to delete dev-pakage that have been installed with "apt-get build-dep ..." ?
[16:01] <uni_> There is someone from Russia?
[16:03] <Mamarok>   !ru | uni_
[16:04] <user_> qualcuno da Roma?
[16:04] <greenmang0> uni_: that's all...
[16:04] <Mamarok> !it | user_
[16:04] <user_> ah ok thanks!
It has turned out?
[16:06] <greenmang0> uni_: what? I didn't get you
 fuck)))) hm...it help's in your problem?
[16:08] <jussi01> !ohmy
[16:12] <SiVA_> hey
[16:12] <SiVA_> just installed kubuntu on all of my family computers!
[16:12] <nuno> oi
[16:12] <nuno>  somone from portugal?
[16:12] <jussi01> !pt | nuno
[16:12] <SiVA_> one of them is a systemmax laptop and the built-in wireless isn't detected it seems. When I try to setup a new connection it says the wireless is disabled
[16:12] <SiVA_> where do I start?
[16:12] <SiVA_> how do I tell what kind of wireless card the computer uses?
[16:13] <jussi01> SiVA_: do you know the wireless card type?
[16:13] <jussi01> ok
[16:13] <jussi01> SiVA_: in konsole, type: lspci
[16:15] <SiVA_> intell 2200BG
[16:15] <SiVA_> jussi01 intell 2200BG
[16:15] <SiVA_> doesn't look like any WAN devices are enabled
[16:15] <jussi01> SiVA_: hrm, I thought that one worked out of the box. you sure the hardware switch to turn it on is on?
[16:16] <SiVA_> jussi01: yea, I checked that right away
[16:16] <jussi01> !wireless | SiVA_, Im not sure, but have a look here you may find some help
[16:17] <SiVA_> when I do: sudo iwlist scan   it probes the various devices but shouldn't wlan0 be there?
[16:17] <jussi01> SiVA_: and it isnt detected by network manager?
[16:18] <SiVA_> no
[16:20] <SiVA_> another problem: I connected an LCD panel and the resolution isn't quite right and it's slightly hard to read (fuzzy)
[16:20] <SiVA_> how can I configure the display settings in kubuntu?
[16:21] <Eternal_Sin> hola a todos, tengo un problema con la grafica xD
[16:25] <eternalsin_> hola, mi gáfica me está tocando la moral :D
[16:25] <g_> When does the next Kernel come out for ubuntu?
[16:26] <eternalsin_> maybe this month
[16:27] <SiVA_> how do I enable wlan0 ? it should be there
[16:27] <Eternal_Sin> what wireless card you have?
[16:27] <stettler> hy
[16:28] <Eternal_Sin> It was hard but now i have connection with my atheros ^^
[16:28] <SiVA_> intell2200BG
[16:28] <Eternal_Sin> sh*t xD
[16:28] <SiVA_> Eternal_Sin: intell2200BG
[16:30] <Eternal_Sin> SIVA_, try this http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/32717
[16:31] <Eternal_Sin> thanks god that mirrors has my ar5007eg drivers xD
[16:32] <SiVA_> espanol? no anglais?
[16:32] <Eternal_Sin> ups! sorry, I'm Spanish xD
[16:33] <Eternal_Sin> here you are http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390512
[16:33] <SiVA_> is there a link there?
[16:33] <Eternal_Sin> in english http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390512 xDD
[16:34] <Eternal_Sin> have you tried ndiswrapper?
[16:34] <xp-killer> help! i get a 8 mega internet but i cant download fast with torents does ktorent uses a special port?
[16:35] <xp-killer> all my torents files are download like i have a dial up onection
[16:35] <xp-killer> help! i get a 8 mega internet but i cant download fast with torents does ktorent uses a special port?
[16:35] <Eternal_Sin> you should try first direct downloads, if it works well, you have to open ports in your router to download torrents
[16:35] <jussi01> xp-killer: try not to repeat so quick
[16:35] <jussi01> xp-killer: enabling dht helps I find
[16:35] <cash>  have unbuntu 8.04 and would like to use my web cam as a security camera. any ideas
[16:37] <Eternal_Sin> have the computer turned on all the night?
[16:38] <Eternal_Sin> no way xD
[16:42] <Eternal_Sin> it's a little bit difficult use kubuntu
[16:42] <jussi01> cash: just install "cheese" and you can record webcam easily
[16:45] <SiVA_> how do I change my keyboard layout?
[16:45] <Eternal_Sin> are you in kde?
[16:45] <jussi01> SiVA_: system settings - regional and language settings
[16:46] <guitchess> Hello all
[16:46] <Eternal_Sin> hi^^
[16:46] <guitchess> I wanted to ask a question about the drive mounting scheme.
[16:47] <jussi01> !ask | guitchess
[16:48] <Eternal_Sin> i updated my kernel version to 2.6.27-9 (and the headers to) but now i can't enable my radeon drivers
[16:50] <guitchess> I have Kubuntu 8.10.  The default names that my partitions have been given are confusing.  I want to change them but the only ones listed in the fstab are the / and swap partitions.
[16:50] <Eternal_Sin> ???
[16:51] <Eternal_Sin> have you a dual boot?
[16:51] <guitchess> yes
[16:51] <Eternal_Sin> and don't appear windows partitions?
[16:52] <guitchess> I have 10 partitions currently mounted and only the mentioned 3 are listed in the fstab
[16:52] <guitchess> they, of course, show in the mtab
[16:53] <Eternal_Sin> and what's your problem? I don't understand it xD
[16:53] <xp-killer> help! i get a 8 mega internet but i cant download fast with torents does ktorent uses a special port?
[16:54] <xp-killer> all my torents files are download like i have a dial up onection
[16:54] <Eternal_Sin> i told you how to fix it!
[16:54] <guitchess> The only real problem is that the names are all over the place.  I.E.  "volume (ntfs)", "FreeAgent Drive", "Volume (ext)"
[16:54] <xp-killer> me?
[16:54] <Eternal_Sin> yes!!!
[16:55] <xp-killer> ok i'll look further up
[16:55] <guitchess> I would like to change them to a simpler scheme I.E. sda1, sda5, sdc1, etc.
[16:55] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: next time put my name next to it like that people wont ak back
[16:57] <guitchess> Renaming seems easy using MountManager, but I don't want to break my sys.
[16:57] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: yes i try direct download i goes very fast the pc does stay turn on yes all the pc in the house i try download with torents and p2p(limewire emule) it goes slow like i have dial up
[16:58] <Eternal_Sin> in that case you have to open some ports in your router
[16:58] <xp-killer> only direct download goes fast.torent taken me 3 days to download a 300mb file
[16:58] <guitchess> Or, If I manually mod fstab will it override the default mounting locations.
[16:59] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: ok wat port does ktorent uses?
[16:59] <Eternal_Sin> i don't know, i use azureus xD
[16:59] <SiVA_> about my wireless problem
[16:59] <SiVA_> i looked in dmesg and it says "Radio Frequency Kill Switch must be turned off for wireless to work"
[17:00] <SiVA_> but it is off... I tried it both ways and I get the same problem
[17:00] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer you can see your ktorrent port in Preferences/Web
[17:00] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: on linux?
[17:00] <Eternal_Sin> yes :D
[17:01] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: is azerus inside of adept so i can download?
[17:01] <william> hi, I am trying to get my SD card reader on my laptop working. When I plug an sd card in I get messages in dmesg. However it does not load it as mass storage device.  Do I need to install a special package for this to work?
[17:01] <jussi01> SiVA_: do you still have wiundows on the machine?
[17:01] <SiVA_> no
[17:01] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer i don't use adept (sh*t yeah! xD) i use apt-get
[17:02] <xp-killer> lol
[17:02] <Eternal_Sin> you can find it whit apt-cache search azureus
[17:02] <D3f0> I'm experiencing some slowness when I fire a Firefox menu when running under KDE4, any suggestions?
[17:02] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: please no cursing even with asterisk
[17:02] <Eternal_Sin> sorry >.<
[17:03] <william> mmc0: new high speed SD card at address 0002
[17:03] <william> D3f0, nvidia card?
[17:03] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: u just got grounded from your daddy XD
[17:04] <Eternal_Sin> xDDDD
[17:04] <Eternal_Sin> i use kubuntu in the laptop but in my desktop computer i use debian
[17:04] <Eternal_Sin> is funnier xD
[17:05] <Eternal_Sin> i'm not a super-linux user, just a crazy dude xD
[17:06] <SiVA_> jussi01: how would windows help?
[17:06] <Eternal_Sin> apt-get gets owned adept, synaptic and others xD
[17:07] <D3f0> yes
[17:07] <guitchess> william, which version of kubuntu are you using?
[17:07] <D3f0> a nvidia m8600gt
[17:08] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer have you found your ktorrent port?
[17:09] <guitchess> I am using 8.10 and had to install several updates to get udev to register a hotplugged card.
[17:09] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: yea ,im in my router adding ports for ktorent and azerus
[17:09] <Eternal_Sin> azureus rules ^^
[17:10] <D3f0> so firefox slowness may be related to nVidia cards?
[17:10] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: it didnt had no ports by deffault so i there wondering if it didnt had any how was it able to download?
[17:10] <D3f0> that would be too bad for me :S all my computers are equiped with a nvidia card
[17:11] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer: wtf???? wait xD
[17:11] <Eternal_Sin> it always has default ports!
[17:11] <Eternal_Sin> my default ports are TCP6689 UDP4456!
[17:11] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: how do i know if ktorent is tcp or udp?
[17:12] <Eternal_Sin> the first port is tcp, the second is udp
[17:12] <xp-killer> k
[17:13] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer preferences/configure ktorrent/ web xD
[17:13] <Eternal_Sin> the first port is TCP, the second is UDP
[17:15] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: my router sucks i just added the port for azureus  now its ok
[17:15] <Eternal_Sin> good work ^^
[17:16] <xp-killer> i run the test mode
[17:16] <Eternal_Sin> Tux is strong in you! xD
[17:16] <xp-killer> the force is with me XD
[17:16] <xp-killer> ok so now u mean to to tell me i have to add ports for eatch one on thees p2p's?
[17:17] <Eternal_Sin> yes, but you can use the same ports to run p2p applications
[17:17] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: lol azeruses told me congrats u fix it lol
[17:17] <xp-killer> :D
[17:17] <Eternal_Sin> xD
[17:18] <xp-killer> the person who did azureus had time to waste lol
[17:18] <Eternal_Sin> apt-get owned adept, azureus owned ktorrent, tux owned mario xD
[17:19] <xp-killer> yea right XXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[17:19] <xp-killer> and i own microsoft
[17:19] <xp-killer> and some viruses :p
[17:19] <Eternal_Sin> yeah!
[17:20] <xp-killer> yep
[17:20] <Eternal_Sin> i use windows to play and some applications, i use kubuntu for aircrak :p
[17:20] <DaSkreech> You mean crack attack ?
[17:20] <Eternal_Sin> nop
[17:21] <gianni> come funziona
[17:21] <Eternal_Sin> to check my wifi security
[17:22] <Eternal_Sin> i'm not a cracker :p
[17:22] <D3f0> Eternal_Sin: maybe not a cracker, but a security auditor
[17:22] <hyper_ch> rather a script kiddy when using aircrack
[17:23] <ghostcube> hmm so what security do u use if u have wpa2-psk or wpa-psk its very hard to get aircrack to hack the key
[17:23] <Eternal_Sin> wpa-psk not so much, but wpa2 is insane xD
[17:24] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: the only coke u try was in a red can :p
[17:24] <D3f0> have you heard there's a cuda based software to increase the cracking speed by 20x?
[17:24] <xp-killer> not crack
[17:24] <xp-killer> it to strong for u XD
[17:24] <ghostcube> pyrit
[17:24] <D3f0> but it only runs under windows
[17:24] <zerlord> ghostcube...
[17:24] <zerlord> hab alles gemacht
[17:24] <zerlord> aber jetzt
[17:24] <ghostcube> zerlord, wrong channel
[17:24] <zerlord> hmm
[17:24] <zerlord> stimmt
[17:24] <Eternal_Sin> i used to use backtrack
[17:25] <Eternal_Sin> but all linux distributions hate my atheros xD
[17:25] <Eternal_Sin> mandriva no, but i hate mandriva xD
[17:26] <Eternal_Sin> and i love opensuse, but opensuse hates my radeon hd3470 xD
[17:26] <D3f0> lucky you, I would like I could get hold of an atheos, but nobody sells them in my country
[17:26] <Eternal_Sin> have you tried ebay?
[17:26] <Eternal_Sin> i've seen some atheros there
[17:26] <hyper_ch> 20x faster is still not fast :)
[17:27] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: does ktorent use UDP?
[17:28] <Eternal_Sin> yes
[17:28] <hyper_ch> ktorrent... ieeks... that's to resource-hungry
[17:28] <xp-killer> k i see it
[17:28] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: what the udp stad for?
[17:29] <D3f0> user datagram protocol
[17:29] <Eternal_Sin> my english sucks so... i don't understand your question xD
[17:29] <xp-killer> me?
[17:29] <Eternal_Sin> yes
[17:29] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: lol what udp stands for?
[17:30] <Eternal_Sin> you mean something like "for what is used the udp port"?
[17:30] <DaSkreech> Something datagram Protocol
[17:31] <genoli> kann wer deutsch hier ^^
[17:31] <Eternal_Sin> is like chinese for me xD
[17:31] <D3f0> sounds like german
[17:31] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: LOL
[17:32] <D3f0> i'd bet he said, "anyone speaks german here"
[17:32] <xp-killer> Tm_T: whats the use of the udp port?
[17:32] <D3f0> udp port is too very important :)
[17:32] <Eternal_Sin> xD
[17:32] <D3f0> if you want to get high download rates
[17:33] <xp-killer> i tink i mean upload download port.i have no idea what i said
[17:35] <D3f0> tcp is generally used for control and handshake
[17:35] <D3f0> udp is lighter, much more lighter
[17:35] <Eternal_Sin> udp port is like tcp, but tcp checks if the data is correctly send/received and udp only checks if the data is correctly received, but not sent
[17:36] <Eternal_Sin> thats why p2p applications uses udp for file sharing
[17:36] <hyper_ch> xp-killer: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=udp
[17:36] <D3f0> udp donesn't check if the data is correctly received, it has no checksum
[17:36] <D3f0> it relies on IP for correctness
[17:36] <Eternal_Sin> in that case my tpc/udp ports tutorial sucks xD
[17:36] <D3f0> anyway, UDP means fast transfers in p2p
[17:37] <D3f0> behind a router it might be a little tricky to get udp working
[17:37] <ruzaimi> melayubuntu
[17:37] <Eternal_Sin> thats why udp is faster than tcp
[17:38] <D3f0> yes, tcp only p2p mans slow transfers
[17:38] <Eternal_Sin> here is a tutorial about tcp/upd ports/protocol, is in spanish xD
[17:39] <Eternal_Sin> http://foro.elhacker.net/hacking_basico/guia_de_hacking_en_construccion_06_ene_07-t113046.0.html;msg521827#msg521827
[17:39] <xp-killer> hyper_ch: lol i like that u can see u had time to waste lol but tanks lol
[17:39] <hyper_ch> xp-killer: next time you know how to use google
[17:40] <xp-killer> hyper_ch: BRAM dont spred it around i dont want people tink im lame
[17:40] <xp-killer> XD
[17:43] <Eternal_Sin> someone here is a xbox 360 user?
[17:43] <Eternal_Sin> being a linux user don't mean hates xbox xD
[17:43] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: mm i added the ports the udp and tcp but azureus still going slow 1day to download 580mb
[17:43] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: why asking?
[17:44] <lninjox> xbox 360 and ps3
[17:44] <Eternal_Sin> Tm_T i'm an xbox user :D
[17:44] <lninjox> who isnt
[17:44] <Tm_T> I'm not
[17:44] <Eternal_Sin> and gears of war 2 player xD
[17:44] <Tm_T> !ot
[17:44] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: i have a ps3 tha stop reading games i just buy another one my 360 i lend it out and mmy wii i just sold it
[17:44] <lninjox> any one play socom confrontation
[17:44] <Tm_T> lninjox: xp-killer: Eternal_Sin: see what ubottu said
[17:45] <Eternal_Sin> ok
[17:45] <lninjox> o
[17:45] <xp-killer> Tm_T: how do i install kubuntu on my ps3?
[17:45] <Eternal_Sin> don't install kubuntu on ps3
[17:45] <xp-killer> y?
[17:45] <Tm_T> !ps3 | xp-killer
[17:45] <Tm_T> hmh
[17:45] <Eternal_Sin> kde makes ps3 run too slow
[17:46] <Tm_T> xp-killer: I don't know
[17:46] <lninjox> anyone know how to install moodin engine in kubuntu 8.10 for splash screen cant install ksplash
[17:46] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer kde makes ps3 run too slow
[17:46] <Tm_T> lninjox: you can't IIRC
[17:46] <xp-killer> euh ! ok so i have to look for my self?
[17:46] <lninjox> thanks
[17:46] <lninjox> you know why
[17:46] <Eternal_Sin> you can use opensuse, yellow dog linux, gentoo and ubuntu on ps3
[17:47] <xp-killer> i rather ubuntu
[17:47] <Eternal_Sin> but you need download the PPC instalation disk
[17:47] <xp-killer> better kubuntu
[17:47] <xp-killer> ok
[17:47] <Eternal_Sin> the cell (ps3) ans Xenos (xbox360) architecture is based on IMB PowerPC
[17:48] <lninjox> does kubuntu 8.10 have an alternative to the ksplash-moodin-engine
[17:48] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: dont know what that mean n dont care i just want linux on my ps3
[17:48] <xp-killer> :/
[17:48] <Eternal_Sin> xp-killer just download the PPC version for the ps3 xD
[17:49] <xp-killer> ok
[17:49] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: wat speed internet u have?
[17:49] <Eternal_Sin> but you wont be able to use wine or windows games
[17:49] <Eternal_Sin> 384K xDDDDDD
[17:50] <Eternal_Sin> internet speed epic fail xD
[17:50] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: cause azureus downloading at only 30kb maxi :( and i have a 8mega
[17:51] <Eternal_Sin> have you a firewall or something?
[17:51] <ruzaimi> how to install real player for kubuntu
[17:51] <Schuenemann> ruzaimi, define "real player"
[17:51] <D3f0> ruzaimi: i guess you can download it at real.com
[17:52] <Schuenemann> ruzaimi, oops, sorry. I merged messages
[17:52] <Schuenemann> ruzaimi, but if you want rmvb, you just need the codecs
[17:53] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: it was deactivate from long time
[17:53] <Eternal_Sin> mmmmm.....
[17:53] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: should i put it back?
[17:53] <Eternal_Sin> could be the problem
[17:54] <Eternal_Sin> and open the ports in the firewall
[17:54] <xp-killer> Eternal_Sin: it i slown down the upload will it go faster?
[17:54] <Eternal_Sin> no
[17:54] <Eternal_Sin> maybe you have to restart the router
[17:55] <Eternal_Sin> after open ports you shuold restart the router
[17:55] <xp-killer> ok
[17:55] <Eternal_Sin> you have to do a TOTO process
[17:56] <xp-killer> theres no ports for he firewall just activate and deactivate thats it
[17:56] <xp-killer> i will restart everything included pc
[17:56] <Eternal_Sin> don't activate the firewall
[17:56] <xp-killer> BRB
[17:56] <Eternal_Sin> just restart the router
[17:57] <nighty_> hi
[17:57] <Eternal_Sin> hi dude
[17:57] <D3f0> hi nighty_
[17:59] <denis__> !de
[17:59] <nighty_> i am trying to get my external tv card hauppauge hvr 1900 working. But it fails. If i plugin the usb device. lsusb hangs. A strace results in this: http://rafb.net/p/uMGLFM43.html
[18:00] <nighty_> is there someone who understands what there happens?
[18:00] <Eternal_Sin> well, i have to go, my radeon is getting me dick xD
[18:00] <Eternal_Sin> bye ^^
[18:03] <D3f0> night_, what does dmesg show?
[18:03] <nighty_> D3f0: i paste it too
[18:04] <arezey> hey. for some reason i don't have the "folder view"-plasmoid available in kde4 on kubuntu intrepid, how can i get it?
[18:04] <nighty_> D3f0: this is the output http://rafb.net/p/RdMZos27.html
[18:05] <p_quarles> arezey: it's in kdeplasma-addons
[18:05] <arezey> "is already the newest version"
[18:06] <D3f0> night_ something simillar happened to me a few days ago
[18:07] <D3f0> a friend of mine lend me her tv card, but I couldn't get it working...
[18:07] <D3f0> mayber
[18:07] <D3f0> *mabye m-a has a module for your card
[18:08] <nighty_> D3f0: where can i find him?
[18:09] <ruzaimi> suggest for me any audio convert program
[18:09] <nighty_> i also cannot boot my box when the card is plugged in
[18:09] <D3f0> m-a stands for module assitant, it's a debian tool for custom modules that are held outside the kernel tree
[18:09] <nighty_> ohh
[18:09] <nighty_> D3f0: i am sorry, i am not using kubuntu for a long time now
[18:10] <D3f0> what are you using?
[18:10] <nighty_> i use gentoo primary
[18:11] <ghostcube> hmm anyone here using oo3 from pp3 on intrpid and its working i cant get it to open
[18:11] <nighty_> und kubuntu secondary
[18:11] <ghostcube> it doesnt start
[18:11] <nighty_> and
[18:11] <D3f0> if you're using gentoo, you must have used genkernel
[18:11] <nighty_> D3f0: never
[18:12] <nighty_> i only used gentoo-sources by hand
[18:12] <nighty_> its not that big problem but this card takes me crazy
[18:12] <D3f0> so I assume, you've checked all menuconfig options fot that chipset
[18:13] <D3f0> *for
[18:13] <nighty_> i found pvr
[18:13] <p_quarles> arezey: then I reckon something's broken; that's where it's supposed to be
[18:14] <D3f0> thre's been some v4l patches in 2.6.28
[18:14] <nighty_> its a diffrent card, but i read somewhere that it should be compatible
[18:14] <nighty_> maybe i should build the kernel by hand
[18:14] <D3f0> I would
[18:16] <Eternal_Sin> hi again xD
[18:16] <D3f0> hi
[18:16] <Eternal_Sin> I really hate ati drivers!!!
[18:16] <D3f0> i really hate nvidia ones
[18:16] <nighty_> so i am going to do that, i basically wondered why my box hangs when i boot it with my plugged in tv card.
[18:16] <nighty_> but it could help to build a kernel by hand
[18:16] <nighty_> thx
[18:17] <Eternal_Sin> I don't know why canonical hadn't added a free ati driver
[18:17] <Eternal_Sin> I never needed privative drivers!
[18:17] <D3f0> something similar happened in my laptop
[18:17] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: added to where?
[18:17] <Eternal_Sin> in the CD!
[18:18] <DasEi> Eternal_Sin:using ibex ?
[18:18] <Eternal_Sin> with my radeon 9250 the free driver works fine
[18:18] <Eternal_Sin> yeah...
[18:18] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: sure they're not in there?
[18:18] <D3f0> Eternal_Sin: maybe a better driver will be built now that amd has released the chip specs
[18:18] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: binary drivers are not, definately
[18:18] <Eternal_Sin> not for my hd3470
[18:18] <ghostcube> hmm no one uses OOo3 on intrepid ?
[18:18] <ghostcube> damn
[18:18] <ghostcube> :S
[18:19] <DasEi> a machine here doesn't boot up anymore but hanging at :  running local bootscripts rc.local, what to check ?
[18:19] <arezey> p_quarles, hmm.
[18:19] <Eternal_Sin> the worst enemy of the human is not the human, is the ······ drivers!
[18:20] <DasEi> Eternal_Sin:ibex caomes with xorg 7.4, which ati-support is very bad, hardy does fine there
[18:21] <ruzaimi> how to download and install ym to kubuntu
[18:22] <Tm_T> ruzaimi: ym?
[18:22] <antar> как называется русский ирц канал?
[18:22] <antar> скажите плиз
[18:22] <kniolet> ruzaimi: if you mean yahoo messenger you can use kopete
[18:22] <ruzaimi> yahoo
[18:22] <Tm_T> !ru | antar
[18:22] <ruzaimi> mesenger
[18:22] <antar> спс
[18:23] <dthacker> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu 7.10, and I'm attempting to get my laptop on wireless.  Will kwifi manager handle setting up WPA2 personal encryption
[18:23] <PhilRod> dthacker: works for me. YMMV :-)
[18:23] <PhilRod> oh wait, 7.10. I'm using 8.04
[18:23] <Tm_T> wrrooom wroom PhilRod
[18:24] <Eternal_Sin> ATI loves get me owned!
[18:24] <PhilRod> hey Tm_T!
[18:24] <dthacker> When I put in the encryption key, it says "not recognized".  Is that normal?
[18:26] <nixternal> PhilRod: are you lost? this is a Kubuntu channel, not a BSD channel :p
[18:27] <PhilRod> nixternal: heh, been runnning kubuntu for nearly a year now
[18:27] <nixternal> good to hear :)
[18:28] <PhilRod> (got a new laptop, and there were just enough things not working with freebsd that I decided to switch)
[18:28] <PhilRod> of course, now I'm running kde svn trunk and nvidia beta drivers, which just leads to another situation of things being slightly broken, but heh
[18:29] <Calabrone> Salve
[18:29] <jussi01> !it | Calabrone
[18:29] <nixternal> ya, I hear you there...though my kde trunk build is fairly stable...then again I use Intel chipsets
[18:30] <norberto> algum portugues ?
[18:30] <PhilRod> !pt
[18:42] <dabear> hi people
[18:44] <dabear> I'm running kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 beta on a macbook
[18:44] <marisol> hola
[18:44] <marisol> alguien me puede ayudar con mi kubuntu
[18:45] <marisol> no reproduce archivos mp3
[18:45] <dabear> I've followed the guides to enable right clicking with two fingers on the touchpad+ clicking the button
[18:45] <dabear> but the right click menu disappears
[18:45] <dabear> when I try to move over the different options
[18:45] <dabear> anone?
[18:45] <astratto> marisol: speak in english please
[18:52] <pkodon> Okay, anyone know how to get something to run in Wine?
[18:53] <pkodon> I'm trying to install Siege of Avalon, and I keep getting a message that a file in /Windows/Temp wasn't created, path didn't exist.
[18:55] <SiVA_> when I run adept, I don't see any "games" section
[18:55] <djdarkman> pkodon: look in ~/.wine
[18:56] <SiVA_> is it because the system hasn't connected to the internet yet? I just installed from CDROm
[18:56] <pkodon> djdarkman: Oh, the directory is there, but do I have to do something to set up Wine as a root process for it to install anything?
[18:56] <djdarkman> pkodon: try: mkdir .wine/drive_c/windows/temp
[18:56] <djdarkman> pkodon: no, that's really not necessary
[18:57] <djdarkman> pkodon: have you checked the game at wine's database?
[18:58] <pkodon> djdarkman: Hmm. No, but mind you, I'm just trying to run the installer, and the installer says a file in Windows/Temp doesn't exist - presumably a file it's trying to write to Windows/Temp.
[18:59] <denis__> Hello, I have problems login into my system
[19:00] <djdarkman> pkodon: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4423
[19:01] <denis__> it accepts my pw but nothing happens except the screen flashing for 1 second
[19:02] <denis__> I also tried it in recovery mode and by command line but that doesn't help
[19:02] <pkodon> djdarkman: I'll go look, but this looks like a Wise Installer problem (the game is contained in one big executable Wise Installer exe file).
[19:03] <djdarkman> denis__: do you have free space left on the root partition?
[19:03] <Danu> Hello anyone here knows how to cut rmvb videos? i have a 1 and a half hour video, and i need just 10 minutes
[19:03] <denis__> ah, good question, I think it was the last warning I had before restarting the system
[19:04] <djdarkman> denis__: than you should check that in the recovery console, type df -h, if it's true than you can free up some space with mc
[19:06] <denis__> djdarkman ok, Iĺl check that, 1 minute
[19:08] <pkodon> djdarkman: Well, that's an interesting entry. Garbage, eh? BTW, I have the Anthology CD, not just chapter 1.
[19:08] <pkodon> djdarkman: Not that that should matter, they probably use the same installer.
[19:09] <djdarkman> pkodon: try #winehq , the guys there can help you more than I can
[19:10] <denis__> djdarkman there is no free space left. How can I get some?
[19:11] <djdarkman> denis__: du -h /var/cache/apt
[19:11] <astratto> denis__: try with sudo apt-get clean
[19:11] <denis__> hehe, which one now?
[19:12] <denis__> apt-get clean didn't help
[19:12] <astratto> denis__: the first shows the space occupied by apt cache, the latter cleans it
[19:12] <djdarkman> denis__: astratto's command is easier, try that ;)
[19:12] <denis__> so I ĺl try the other one
[19:12] <astratto> denis, could you paste somewhere df -h
[19:13] <snaf> Hey, I tried to check out the libcups2-dev package, but i'm getting:
[19:13] <snaf> Failed to fetch http://aq.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cups/libcups2-dev_1.3.9-2ubuntu4_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[19:13] <denis__> djdarkman yes but it didn't help
[19:13] <denis__> astratto hmm, I'll try to, Iḿ working on 2 machines...
[19:13] <djdarkman> denis__: yes but what did it show?
[19:14] <denis__> I 'll try to paste it, give me 2 minutes
[19:14] <snaf> Anyone know what may be wrong there? Or would it be a better question for #ubuntu
[19:16] <astratto> snaf: that package doesn't exist on that mirror
[19:17] <astratto> snaf: short solution: wget http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cups/libcups2-dev_1.3.9-2ubuntu4_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i libcups2-dev_1.3.9-2ubuntu4_i386.deb
[19:17] <snaf> Thanks :)
[19:19] <snaf> Alright, that fixed all my problems. Thanks again, astratto
[19:20] <astratto> snaf: you're welcome
[19:21] <denis__> astratto djdarman here it is! http://paste.ubuntu.com/99756/
[19:21] <denis__> djdarkman...
[19:22] <astratto> denis__: ah ok, you've got your home under /
[19:22] <astratto> denis__: du -h /home please
[19:22] <denis__> I`m  rather a newbie so I took what Kubuntu proposes
[19:22] <denis__> jep
[19:23] <denis__> wow, what is it doing?
[19:23] <snaf>  /join #kde-devel
[19:23] <snaf> lol
[19:23] <denis__> now I have a huge list....
[19:24] <astratto> denis__: sorry du -hs /home
[19:24] <denis__> ok
[19:25] <astratto> denis__: this one sums each entry, I just want to know how much space is your /home
[19:25] <denis__> 31G
[19:26] <denis__> astratto 31GB
[19:26] <astratto> 31G /home + about 7G the rest... you should delete something under your /home
[19:27] <denis__> ok, I already know what I want to delete, but how do I do that?
[19:28] <astratto> denis__: easy way: launch dolphin, select what you want to delete and hit 'Del'
[19:28] <astratto> denis__: otherwise, rm -rf dir_to_delete
[19:28] <denis__> dolphin? without X?
[19:28] <astratto> ah ok sorry
[19:28] <denis__> ok, that makes more sense ;-)
[19:29] <denis__> ok, 1min
[19:30] <denis__> astratto how fast does it delete?  I wanted to delete a 220MB folder
[19:30] <denis__> astratto but it still tells me having 31GB occupied in home
[19:31] <astratto> denis__: it depends on your drive and filesystem
[19:31] <denis__> because it immediately showed me the cursor after entering the order
[19:32] <denis__> cursor = root
[19:32] <astratto> denis__: could you paste the command you ran?
[19:34] <denis__> astratto rm -rf /home/denis/Musik/Godsmack
[19:35] <astratto> denis__: maybe it wasn't very large, I'm sorry but telling what you ought to delete in your home is quite hard :D
[19:36] <denis__> hehe, it was over 200MB!
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:37] <denis__> astratto I think I will delete my Musik folder. It has 1.6 GB, should be enough, shouldn't it?
[19:37] <astratto> denis__: re-run df -h and paste it please
[19:37] <denis__> yes
[19:38] <denis__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99756/  it's the same
[19:39] <denis__> no sorry, this time 37GB are used, not 38GB
[19:39] <astratto> ah ok :D
[19:39] <denis__> so it should work now? I'll try to login
[19:40] <denis__> cool! X is starting
[19:40] <denis__> oh noo! The mouse is not working...
[19:41] <astratto> denis__: just out of curiosity, is it a fresh install?
[19:42] <denis__> astratto are you familiar with kdenlive? No, it's intrepid but I updated and it worked properly unto this problem....
[19:43] <astratto> denis__: I just tried it a lot of time ago
[19:43] <denis__> daqm
[19:43] <astratto> denis__: did you upgrade something?
[19:43] <denis__> damned! I still can't login
[19:43] <denis__> yes, amarok but that was some time ago
[19:44] <denis__> and that worked properly too
[19:44] <astratto> denis__: try cat /var/log/auth.log maybe there's something interesting there :D
[19:44] <astratto> check if there are errors
[19:45] <denis__> astratto ah, now it works, I had to change the type to "kde"
[19:45] <astratto> ok
[19:47] <denis__> astratto but the screen is looking strange, the ratio doesn't fit
[19:49] <astratto> denis__: uhm... take a look at system preferences > display
[19:50] <denis__> astratto yes, thanks, I think I 'll get that one fixed on my own.
[19:50] <denis__> astratto last question, how do you record DV-bands with kdenlive? The programms help doesn't work
[19:54] <Eternal_Sin> yeah!!!
[19:54] <Eternal_Sin> multi-fail!!! xD
[19:54] <Eternal_Sin> that was awsome!! xD
[19:54] <denis__> eh what?
[19:55] <denis__> whatever....
[19:55] <Eternal_Sin> maybe is my computer who has lag, but in one minute my konversation detected 150 users down xD
[19:55] <Tm_T> Eternal_Sin: hmm, less noise thanks
[19:56] <Eternal_Sin> finally my radeon works
[19:56] <Eternal_Sin> damned headers xD
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> damned ati
[19:57] <Eternal_Sin> yeah!
[19:57] <denis__> which type of radeon?
[19:57] <denis__> model
[19:57] <Eternal_Sin> Mobility Radeon HD3470 256MB GDDR2
[19:58] <denis__> oh a mobile one
[19:58] <denis__> how long did it take to get it running?
[19:58] <Eternal_Sin> now i have to install compiz... no way, this is a joke xD
[19:58] <Eternal_Sin> now works well
[19:59] <Eternal_Sin> i updated the drivers in adept
[19:59] <Eternal_Sin> well... "updated"
[19:59] <denis__> ah ok
[19:59] <denis__> has anybody ever recorded DV-tapes by firewire?
[20:02] <maxmahem> argh, can somebody help me troubleshoot my sound? I can't seem to get it working.
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> maxmahem: if that doesnt help, run lspci in a konsole and websearch the line that relates to your sound
[20:03] <Eternal_Sin> when ALSA breaks.... xD
[20:05] <SiVA_> hey
[20:06] <SiVA_> I plugged in this dlink wireless access point to my laptop's lan. But when I go to the default IP for the ap it doesn't work
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: with a patch cable?
[20:06] <SiVA_> anything special about linux that would prevent me from connecting to this access point?
[20:07] <SiVA_> lan
[20:07] <denis__> has anybody ever recorded DV-tapes by firewire?
[20:07] <SiVA_> denis__ made various attempts, with limited success
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: ok, does it work ok if you run: sudo /etc/init/d/networking restart
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: then run ifconfig eth0
[20:08] <biohazard> hi
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: what ip do you have (this is safe to divulge as its an internal ip)
[20:08] <SiVA_> my laptop is connecting to my server via wifi. I want to configure this AP through my LAN on my laptop. It says to go to <IP_ADDRESS>, but that doesn't work
[20:08] <denis__> SIVA did you use kdenlive?
[20:08] <SiVA_> so do you still want me to restart networking on my laptop?
[20:08] <SiVA_> denis__ no, I installed 8.10
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: yeah restart the networking
[20:09] <denis__> SIVA and which programm did you use? I also have 8.10
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: then give us the ip that eth0 gets as you are using wired lan
[20:10] <SiVA_> actionparsnip: No ip on eth0
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: are the lights next to the wired connection flashing as well as on the routers interface
[20:10] <SiVA_> on the AP the LAN light is solid green and WLAN is flashing
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: to show activity
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: I thought you were using a wired connection?
[20:11] <SiVA_> the orange light on my laptop lan port is solid, but the other one isn't doing anything
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> ok thats fine
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: try: sudo ifup eth0
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: then ifconfig eth0
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: any ip address?
[20:12] <SiVA_> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: can you pastebin your ifconfig output
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !paste | SiVA_
[20:13] <SiVA_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99784/
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: can you also pastebin /etc/network/interfaces (feel free to obscure security settings)
[20:14] <amiridis> einai kanenas apo tin elada?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: your wifi is connecting ok
[20:14] <amiridis> russki ktota est?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> amiridis: english only room duder
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> !ru | amiridis
[20:16] <SiVA_> ActionParsnip: You mean "cat /et/network/interfaces" ?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: sure
[20:16] <SiVA_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/99786/
[20:17] <SiVA_> ActionParsnip: I'm just trying to connect to the AP to configure it's wireless settings so it can connect to my network
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: if you run: route
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: the line marked default will be your default gateway ip and therefore your routers internal ip
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: route | grep UG  ;)
[20:21] <SiVA_> <IP_ADDRESS>