[07:07] <philfo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12877/
[07:07] <philfo1> there you go
[07:07] <Re|ent|ess> netsplit!
[07:07] <Jucato> !nvidia
[07:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:07] <Re|ent|ess> !google ATI Ubuntu
[07:08] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  #1 BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - Community Ubuntu Documentation ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI )
[07:08] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[07:08] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[07:08] <Jucato> Re|ent|ess: stop doing that please
[07:08] <philfo1> you talking to me relentless?
[07:08] <Re|ent|ess> yes philfo1
[07:08] <philfo1> what does this mean?
[07:09] <Re|ent|ess> i dont see a swap mounted
[07:09] <philfo1> so how do I fix that?
[07:10] <philfo1> there are no words for my amount of frustration with this operating system right now
[07:10] <Re|ent|ess> resize and make 2 gigs available and make it a swap
[07:11] <philfo1> I HAVE a swap!
[07:11] <philfo1> can't I just mount the partition?
[07:11] <Re|ent|ess> mount -u
[07:11] <Re|ent|ess> srry
[07:11] <philfo1> what does this command do?
[07:11] <Re|ent|ess> mount -a
[07:11] <Re|ent|ess> mount all of the drvies installed
[07:12] <philfo1> U?  they don't have letters though, right?
[07:12] <Re|ent|ess> mount -a
[07:12] <Re|ent|ess> -a stands for all
[07:13] <philfo1> ok, I did "sudo mount -a" & it just got me to the next $
[07:13] <philfo1> is that it?
[07:13] <Re|ent|ess> yes
[07:13] <Re|ent|ess> everything sould be mounted
[07:14] <philfo1> I am quite perturbed, but it's not your fault.
[07:14] <philfo1> the funny thing is, is that you mention the ATI card.
[07:14] <Re|ent|ess> is your memeoer still being aten?
[07:14] <Re|ent|ess> ^memory
[07:15] <philfo1> top says 1929800k used
[07:15] <Re|ent|ess> what application do you have running?
[07:16] <philfo1> konqueror, konsole, konversation.
[07:16] <philfo1> I don't know what is going in the background
[07:16] <Re|ent|ess> hmm
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: it's normal to have almost all your memory in use, linux uses your free memory for cache.
[07:16] <Jucato> !ram
[07:16] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> you can relase your memory by using a smaller destop
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> ^desktop
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> !google fluxbox
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google fluxbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Jucato> philfo1: Linux handles memory differently from Windows
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  #1 .:F L U X B O X:. - Welcome to fluxbox ( http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ )
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[07:17] <philfo1> why the F%$@ did I leave windows?!?  it's been 4 whole days of pain.
[07:17] <Jucato> Re|ent|ess: again, please stop with the script
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> not a scrip
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> tt
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> im on my eggdrop
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> <_<
[07:17] <Re|ent|ess> i rock
[07:18] <Jucato> whatever it is please stop it.
[07:18] <philfo1> nothing but diagnosing and getting things right and diagnosing and reloading.
[07:18] <Jucato> or reduce it to a one line thing
[07:18] <philfo1> this is EASIER!?
[07:18] <Re|ent|ess> floxbox is a small and easyer desktop
[07:18] <Re|ent|ess> ^fluxbox
[07:18] <Jucato> philfo1: have you considered other Linux distributions?
[07:18] <philfo1> I'm not a masochist
[07:18] <philfo1> what for?
[07:19] <Jucato> Re|ent|ess: the "release your memory by using a smaller desktop" is only half true.
[07:19] <aaroncampbell_> Do people prefer kopete or gaim?
[07:19] <philfo1> I've got 4gb ram
[07:19] <Re|ent|ess> gaim use more mem
[07:19] <aaroncampbell_> I've always used gaim, but I see that feisty comes with kopete
[07:19] <philfo1> 3.4GHz P4, that should be enough
[07:19] <freeza> how do you install a kde theme from kde-look.org that comes in a bz2 file?
[07:19] <Jucato> philfo1: more than enough
[07:19] <Re|ent|ess> !kde
[07:19] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: go read the link Jucato had ubotu send - it'll explain why you're "using" ram.
[07:19] <Jucato> freeza: what kind of theme it is
[07:20] <philfo1> exactly
[07:20] <freeza> one sec ill get exact link to it
[07:20] <martalli> I have kubuntu 6.10 running on a p2 333mhx laptop
[07:20] <Re|ent|ess> !ram
[07:20] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: better yet run free and look at the line +/- buffers
[07:20] <Jucato> philfo1: what problem are you experiencing with your RAM exactly?
[07:20] <coty> when i install aget am i suppose to see it somwere in my menu
[07:20] <freeza> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino?content=42804
[07:20] <martalli> Runs fairly well.  I am not relly certainly there is  aplace for things like fluxbuntu *just to make old hardware work*
[07:20] <Jucato> freeza: you will have to compile it. widget styles are compiled or installed like programs
[07:20] <philfo1> some process is using more than half of it, that's what.
[07:21] <philfo1> leejunfan: at the WHAT?
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: when you run top press M and it'll sort by memory.
[07:21] <freeza> ok so since its a bz2 just a normal ./configure, make, make install will do?
[07:21] <coty> !aget
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <Jucato> !compile | freeza
[07:21] <ubotu> freeza: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:21] <martalli>  For complete antiques, a distro like puppylinux would probably be better,though
[07:21] <Jucato> freeza: your guide tocompiling ^^^
[07:21] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: when you run "free" from a console it'll tell you about your memory use, the real memory used for programs is in the +/- buffers line.
[07:21] <freeza> cool thx
[07:21] <coty> when i installed aget am i suppose to see an icon in the menu
[07:21] <Re|ent|ess> is it just more or is this distro the hardest to use?
[07:22] <Re|ent|ess> KNOPPIX
[07:22] <martalli> man, wait for a ten minutes and there is yet another update int he repo's
[07:22] <Re|ent|ess> get knoppix
[07:22] <Re|ent|ess> !google knoppix download
[07:22] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  #1 KNOPPIX - Mirrors ( http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html )
[07:22] <Re|ent|ess> [Google]  Desc: n/a
[07:22] <Jucato> philfo1: are you sure it's a single app using your RAM? you can graphically check if it's really an app or the disk cache bye running K Menu -> System -> KInfoCenter and clicking on Memory
[07:22] <Jucato> Re|ent|ess: I am giving you your last warning. please stop that. or reduce that to one line.
[07:22] <philfo1> ok, that makes more sense
[07:23] <coty> daskreech2: when i install aget am i suppose to see an icon in the menu
[07:23] <daskreech2> what aget?
[07:23] <daskreech2> waht is aget?
[07:23] <daskreech2> 1aget
[07:23] <daskreech2> !aget
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <coty> a download accelerater
[07:23] <daskreech2> oh
[07:23] <daskreech2> umm
[07:23] <coty> like wget
[07:23] <daskreech2> why not kget?
[07:23] <coty> ok
[07:23] <coty> never heard of it
[07:23] <coty> let me go get it
[07:23] <daskreech2> !kget
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <daskreech2> !info kget
[07:24] <philfo1> 28 seconds to open that window.
[07:24] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:24] <Jucato> daskreech2: kget is not a download accelerator though
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> !info kget
[07:24] <daskreech2> it isn't ?
[07:24] <daskreech2> !info aget
[07:24] <ubotu> aget: Multithreaded HTTP Download Accelerator. In component universe, is optional.  Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[07:26] <philfo1> sigh, thank you
[07:26] <nixternal> grrr
[07:26] <daskreech2> oooooooooh
[07:26] <daskreech2> Jucato got an o :-)
[07:26] <Jucato> heh :)
[07:26] <Jucato> I should really fix my aliases though :/
[07:27] <nixternal> I use the auto_blah script for irssi
[07:27] <daskreech2> yeah I probably could have told you that from before when he was talling people to get RPMs and use alien for apache
[07:27] <nixternal> heh
[07:27] <coty> maybe aget runs automaticaly when downloading
[07:27] <LeeJunFan> daskreech2: but he was the only one giving goo information :p
[07:27] <Jucato> daskreech2: so why didn't you? :)
[07:27] <daskreech2> goo is right
[07:28] <daskreech2> Jucato: well I'm an optimist
[07:28] <Jucato> coty: that depends. what happens when you try to run it from Alt+F2?
[07:28] <coty> nothing
[07:28] <Jucato> hm. too bad I couldn't test. aget doesn't exist on feisty...
[07:28] <coty> what does this guy mean? <Re|ent|ess> ubuntu sux KNOPPIX 1337 Hax0r Bu|
[07:28] <pollyo> !libdvdcss
[07:28] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:28] <daskreech2> even when someone says they want to install something but doesn't want to learn how to do it and still keeps asking for help I give them the benefit of the doubt
[07:29] <pollyo> !multimedia
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:29] <daskreech2> coty: he was politely asking to leave and go to the litle boys room
[07:29] <Jucato> coty: "Ubuntu sucks, KNOPPIX leet (elite) Hackers Bull"
[07:29] <coty> im crying i think he said he hates ubuntu
[07:29] <Jucato> coty: also known as "please kick me in the butt out of this room"
[07:29] <coty> is this true
[07:29] <daskreech2> coty: it is true
[07:29] <coty> nooooo
[07:29] <coty> how could hee
[07:29] <daskreech2> coty: :-)
[07:30] <daskreech2> there can be only one
[07:30] <daskreech2>  that was him
[07:30] <Jucato> anyway, nothing to see here. move along :D
[07:30] <coty> how can anyone say that
[07:30] <philfo1> ok, anyone want to help me work my problem wtill?
[07:30] <Jucato> G. while repeition statement
[07:30] <coty> if you dont like it it does not mean you put it in others faces
[07:30] <Jucato> oops. wrong app
[07:30] <Jucato> sorry
[07:30] <daskreech2> coty: good point :)
[07:30] <philfo1> still, whoops, I can't spell
[07:30] <daskreech2> coty: you have aget installed
[07:30] <coty> plus it is free
[07:30] <coty> yes
[07:31] <daskreech2> !info aget feisty
[07:31] <ubotu> Package aget does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <Jucato> philfo1: you say that a single process is using up half of your RAM?
[07:31] <daskreech2> woah
[07:31] <philfo1> no
[07:31] <Jucato> daskreech2: told that already
[07:31] <Jucato> s/told/said
[07:31] <daskreech2> coty: alt+F2
[07:31] <LeeJunFan> well, he's probably trying to get on tor now so he can come back and tell us all how l33t he is again :)
[07:31] <daskreech2> Jucato: thought you were joking
[07:31] <daskreech2> man://aget
[07:31] <coty> i press alt+f2
[07:31] <philfo1> I'm just having a very hard time getting an app to run
[07:31] <Jucato> daskreech2: single / only
[07:32] <daskreech2> Jucato: eh?
[07:32] <Jucato> philfo1: ok.. so nothing really to do with RAM at all?
[07:32] <coty> daskreech2: nothing happens
[07:32] <philfo1> and I NEED it to so I can finish a job by tomorrow evening
[07:32] <philfo1> I don't know.
[07:32] <coty> maybe it is not an app
[07:32] <Jucato> daskreech2: man:/foo not man://foo
[07:32] <philfo1> I break computers & keep IT people employed
[07:32] <daskreech2> ah
[07:32] <daskreech2> right
[07:32] <daskreech2> sorry
[07:32] <daskreech2> philfo1: hoorah!
[07:32] <ricky> does anyone know if i can install beryl with the gforce fx5200?
[07:32] <daskreech2> coty: serious?
[07:33] <coty> daskreech2: i guess
[07:33] <coty> daskreech2: i have no clue
[07:33] <philfo1> I killed 5 in one night back when I was stationed up in WA state
[07:33] <daskreech2> coty: does alt+f3 pop up an app window?
[07:33] <Jucato> !beryl | ricky
[07:33] <ubotu> ricky: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:33] <philfo1> not on purpose, of course
[07:33] <coty> daskreech2: a window pops up
[07:33] <Jucato> daskreech2: Alt+F2
[07:33] <philfo1> just the way the cookie crumbles
[07:33] <coty> daskreech2: with alt+f2
[07:33] <daskreech2> coty: right
[07:33] <daskreech2> in that window type man:/aget
[07:33] <Jucato> philfo1: ok, what app were you having problems running btw?
[07:34] <philfo1> gimpshop 2.2
[07:34] <philfo1> but it's not just that app
[07:34] <philfo1> it's anything
[07:34] <Jucato> hm....
[07:34] <philfo1> machine is just too slow
[07:34] <Jucato> it's really slow? that's weird...
[07:34] <philfo1> taking 18 seconds avg to open konsole
[07:34] <coty> daskreech2: ok a page came up
[07:34] <daskreech2> that's the instructions for aget
[07:34] <Jucato> philfo1: ok totally weird
[07:35] <philfo1> yeah, especially for my processor + memory
[07:35] <philfo1> we thought we had it worked out to a corrupt driver for my ATI card
[07:35] <Jucato> philfo1: but my personal advice, if Kubuntu doesn't work for you, you could try other distros out there. don't give up on Linux just yet. Linux isn't just Kubuntu :)
[07:35] <philfo1> so I reconfigured the card
[07:36] <philfo1> no, I really love LINUX
[07:36] <philfo1> really.
[07:36] <coty> daskreech2: there not much of options
[07:36] <philfo1> but I have to get this job finished by tomorrow afternoon.
[07:36] <flaccid> w0a you can do firefox2 on dapper!
[07:36] <daskreech2> coty: maybe. never used aget
[07:36] <daskreech2> flaccid: yeah just not officially
[07:36] <Jucato> flaccid: not through the repos I belive
[07:36] <coty> daskskreech:
[07:36] <coty> SYNOPSIS
[07:37] <coty> aget [options]  file ..
[07:37] <coty> daskreech: what does that mean
[07:37] <daskreech2> coty: right I forget you don't know how to read man files
[07:37] <Jucato> looks like it's a command line app then
[07:37] <daskreech2> anything in [ ]  is optional
[07:37] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: has anyone told you to run 'dmesg' yet?
[07:37] <coty> daskreech2: meaning?
[07:37] <philfo1> nope.
[07:37] <flaccid> i think its funny how i complained and was told that more than libstdc needed upgrading but hey!
[07:38] <daskreech2> meaning to run the application you have to type aget file
[07:38] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: try that in konsole, the kernel may be giving you some errors/clues, especially if it's hardware errors.
[07:38] <daskreech2> there are [options]
[07:38] <daskreech2> which of course are optional :)
[07:38] <Jucato> coty: it's definitely only a command line app
[07:38] <Jucato> coty: http://www.enderunix.org/aget/
[07:38] <coty> so what do i do
[07:38] <Jucato> you use it in the command line/Konsole
[07:38] <coty> like?
[07:39] <Jucato> coty: that web page has the instructions
[07:39] <Jucato> "How to use" section
[07:39] <coty>  ok
[07:39] <daskreech2> coty: open konsole
[07:40] <Jucato> hm...actually it's not that clear... but basically what you do is "aget path/to/file/to/download"
[07:40] <daskreech2> what about the URL?
[07:40] <daskreech2> oh wait
[07:40] <daskreech2>  that is the URL :-)
[07:40] <philfo1> you want me to paste that up?
[07:40] <daskreech2> Ohhhh
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: yeah, pastebin
[07:40] <daskreech2> I have an unsolvable problem
[07:40] <daskreech2> anyone want to help?
[07:40] <coty> daskreech2: ok i open konsole
[07:41] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: probably only need the last 20 or so lines if there's a real problem.
[07:41] <daskreech2> coty: you are downloading something from the net?
[07:41] <coty> no
[07:41] <daskreech2> oh :-|
[07:41] <daskreech2> sooo why do we need aget?
[07:41] <nixternal> could not find octec/application-stream <- wth is that all about?
[07:41] <philfo1> whoops, I copied the whole thing
[07:41] <nixternal> octet too
[07:41] <hansen> hi. where can I find an intro on .dep packages and how to build packages for ubuntu?
[07:42] <coty> daskreech2: for the future
[07:42] <daskreech2> coty: ah ok
[07:42] <flaccid> ah firefox2 from getfirefox.com is definately faster than ubuntu version
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: that's okay - whats the link?
[07:42] <philfo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12883/
[07:42] <hansen> for now my goal is just to get the newerst ufraw packaged for edgy :)
[07:42] <philfo1> just the lag from right-click to "copy" is too long.
[07:42] <Jucato> nixternal: looks familiar... but I forgot how they resolved that issue in #kde... tried running kbuildsycoca ?
[07:42] <philfo1> amazing
[07:43] <hansen> I found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268687 and installed prevu
[07:43] <daskreech2> well jus guessing you would go to the directory that you wantto download into and type aget http://something.com/downloads/file.get
[07:43] <Jucato> !packaging | hansen
[07:43] <hansen> right now prevu-init seems to be creating a parallel universe in /var/cache/prevu...
[07:43] <daskreech2> i have no access to termninals 1-6
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> daskreech2: what did you do recently?
[07:43] <David_> Hi
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[07:43] <David_> How can I install ipw3945 network card?
[07:43] <daskreech2> well reasonable access
[07:44] <daskreech2> Admiral_Chicago: no clue :)
[07:44] <philfo1> LeeJunFan: you get that url?
[07:44] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: yeah, nothing looks suspicious.
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> daskreech2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not work?
[07:44] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: is your / on /dev/hda something or other?
[07:44] <philfo1> good.
[07:44] <daskreech2> when I press alt+ctrl+X i get a screen cut in half
[07:44] <daskreech2> on the left half is black
[07:45] <daskreech2> the right half is cut in 4
[07:45] <philfo1> no, my original "test" install was, but now i'm on a SATA drive, /dev/sda1 I believe.
[07:45] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: okay, try this 'sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda1' to test your HD speed.
[07:45] <David_> How can I install ipw3945 network card?
[07:46] <daskreech2> the top is the terminal x the next one down is desktop 1 in x the next down is desktop 3 the next down is desktop 4
[07:46] <daskreech2> no idea how that happened
[07:46] <philfo1> LeeJunFan: 172 MB in  3.03 seconds =  56.78 MB/sec
[07:46] <coty> what do i do now that im in terminal
[07:46] <daskreech2> coty: you are testing aget?
[07:46] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: well, that's not it either. HD is dang fast.
[07:47] <coty> daskreech2: trying
[07:47] <daskreech2> Admiral_Chicago: any clue?
[07:47] <philfo1> how about my Graphics card?
[07:47] <philfo1> that was the issue we were working earlier tonight
[07:47] <daskreech2> coty: you have something to download?
[07:47] <pollyo> Wow what a difference now that I have nvida driver setup correctly.  Google earth actually works ok.
[07:47] <philfo1> hours ago
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> nope, unless you changed something recently which is the only thing I could imagine
[07:47] <coty> daskreech2: no but i can find somthing
[07:47] <daskreech2> Admiral_Chicago: damn :-( guess I'll reboot
[07:48] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: That shouldn't cause problems launching apps, I mean it could cause problems drawing them, but you should see something happening not long after you click something.
[07:48] <pollyo> Before I could watch it draw the globe frame by frame.
[07:48] <philfo1> right, right
[07:48] <coty> daskreech2: guess what
[07:48] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: can you 'ping localhost' ?
[07:48] <philfo1> what do you mean?
[07:49] <philfo1> in terminal?
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: yeah, run that in a terminal.
[07:49] <pollyo> What has been in development longer Gnome or KDE?
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: hit ctrl-c to stop it after it pings a couple times.
[07:49] <philfo1> I'm only 5 days into linux, don't know the lingo
[07:49] <Jucato_> ok that sucked greatly
[07:49] <Jucato_> pollyo: what do you mean by "in development longer"?
[07:50] <Jucato_> nixternal: btw, did you get your problem resolved? (I just had my 6th hard freeze)
[07:50] <pollyo> philifo1: Does your printer work with Linux?
[07:50] <philfo1> what do I do with that?
[07:50] <coty> daskreech2: im getting a new/used computer this weekend!!
[07:50] <seven11> any news about the final feisty relese
[07:50] <daskreech2> coty: damn that's nearly exactly waht I was guessing
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: did it say 64 bites from... ?
[07:50] <coty> daskreech2: lol
[07:50] <pollyo> Jucato_: Who was out first?  What system was available first?
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: or did it say host unreachable or unknown, etc...
[07:50] <coty> daskreech2: and guess what im going to do with it
[07:50] <Jucato> pollyo: historically? KDE
[07:50] <philfo1> LeeJunfan: yes.64 bytes from localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.019 ms
[07:50] <daskreech2> Jucato: what?
[07:51] <daskreech2> Jucato: what other measure is there?
[07:51] <pollyo> Jucato: So KDE was first on the scene?
[07:51] <daskreech2> coty: ummm heat pizzas?
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: okay, now this one 'ping -c3 `hostname`'
[07:51] <Jucato> daskreech2: dunno. someone might come up w/ something :)
[07:51] <daskreech2> pollyo: technically cde was :-)
[07:51] <Jucato> pollyo: yes
[07:51] <coty> daskreech2: put kububtu on it XD
[07:51] <daskreech2> whoooot1
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: that'll ping using your hostname 3 times (-c 3).
[07:51] <pollyo> daskreech2: cde?
[07:51] <Jucato> daskreech2: you're confusing the poor guy
[07:51] <daskreech2> sorry
[07:51] <daskreech2> :-)
[07:51] <pollyo> lol
[07:52] <Jucato> daskreech2: which came first, KDE or GNOME? "technically, CDE was"
[07:52] <Jucato> what an answer :P
[07:52] <daskreech2> historically?
[07:52] <pollyo> Jucato: I've been confused since 13 March.  I believe that is when I installed Kubuntu on this system. LOL
[07:52] <daskreech2> that's the answer that twists my buns
[07:52] <coty> daskreech2: the new/used computer im getting has way more ram and a better proccessor
[07:52] <nonuda_> i got this message "conversation with su failed", when i try to open adept manager in password dialog box
[07:52] <daskreech2> coty: what video card?
[07:52] <pollyo> Jucato: Things are getting better though.
[07:52] <coty> daskreech2: dont know yet
[07:52] <daskreech2> :-)
[07:52] <Jucato> daskreech2: you could say that GNOME was first to have a "free" license... but that's offtopic now :)
[07:53] <philfo1> LeeJunfan: nothing happening.  just displays >
[07:53] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: hit ctrl-c , you're missing the last `
[07:53] <philfo1> this is what I ran:  'ping -c3 'hostname'
[07:53] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: should read: ping -c 3 `hostname`
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: backticks, not single quotes.
[07:54] <coty> Do you want to know my second thing that i love the most about kubuntu
[07:54] <daskreech2> katapult?
[07:54] <coty> no
[07:54] <daskreech2> then I don't care
[07:54] <coty> it only takes me 5 mins to boot into it
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> people like relentless?
[07:55] <coty> windows took me 30 mins to boot into
[07:55] <daskreech2> coty: hey neat :-)
[07:55] <coty> yes
[07:55] <coty> i know
[07:55] <coty> and im so much happier with that
[07:55] <daskreech2> coty: you may want to turn off sessions then :-)
[07:55] <coty> why
[07:55] <pollyo> coty: Do you have a ton of spyware on that windows system?
[07:55] <daskreech2> cause my computer takes oodles of time now :-)
[07:55] <coty> yea i did
[07:55] <daskreech2> coty: kde remembers what you were doing when you logged out and loads it back up when you log in
[07:55] <daskreech2> it's cool
[07:55] <philfo1> LeejunFan: still just a >
[07:55] <daskreech2> but takes time
[07:56] <coty> nope loads fast
[07:56] <coty> even when it loads that stuff
[07:56] <coty> but
[07:56] <philfo1> this is what I ran " ping -c 3 `hostname` "
[07:56] <coty> if i run to many programs at once my screen goes crazy
[07:56] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: ping -c 3 `hostname`
[07:56] <philfo1> that s what I did
[07:56] <coty> i get a screen full of colors
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: be careful with the ` it's not ', and there's only 2 - around `hostname`
[07:57] <coty> than they go away
[07:57] <coty> and a messagge pops up
[07:57] <philfo1> I know.
[07:57] <coty> saying i need to check my dispaly settings
[07:57] <philfo1> I put the quotations around it for the sake of demo
[07:57] <coty> is there a way to fix that
[07:57] <pollyo> I noticed a few anti-virus applications in adept.  Do they scan for windows virus signatures or does Linux also have issues with virus software?
[07:57] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: copy and paste mine
[07:57] <coty> someone said i need more swap
[07:57] <daskreech2> coty: sounds like it
[07:58] <daskreech2> how much ram do you hve?
[07:58] <coty> how do i do that
[07:58] <coty> 128 mb
[07:58] <philfo1> 14 seconds to open konsole
[07:58] <daskreech2> just sitting at the top of the hillock eh?
[07:58] <coty> yea
[07:58] <philfo1> 8 seconds from right click to the time when window with "paste" in it appears
[07:58] <pollyo> !virus
[07:58] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:59] <daskreech2> philfo1: you need some tools
[07:59] <philfo1> I need my 26oz framing hammer is what I need
[07:59] <daskreech2> philfo1: or a big stamp to send the computer to me :)
[08:00] <philfo1> and a 16lb maul
[08:00] <philfo1> yeah, I just finished my upgrade of this old machine
[08:00] <pollyo> Anyone know why linux developers haven't made use of the lexmark driver development kit?
[08:00] <philfo1> I'll keep it around until I get something a little nicer
[08:01] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: any luck with that ping yet?
[08:01] <daskreech2> pollyo: hmm?
[08:01] <philfo1> LeejunFan: yup
[08:01] <philfo1> what do you want to know?
[08:02] <philfo1> 0% packet loss
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: reply from ?
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> what IP?
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:02] <philfo1> 3 trans, 3 rec
[08:02] <philfo1> yes
[08:02] <coty> daskreech2: so how do i do more swap
[08:02] <daskreech2> !partition
[08:02] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:02] <daskreech2> repartition
[08:03] <daskreech2> good night everyone!!
[08:03] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: okay, check /etc/hosts and make sure your hostname isn't set to an internet address other than 127.0.x.x
[08:03] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[08:04] <philfo1> LeejunFan: what do you need to know?
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: your hostname only appears on a line that starts with 127.0.X.X ? right?
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> not on any other lines.
[08:05] <philfo1> leejunFan: localhost = <IP_ADDRESS> and philfo1-desktop = <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:06] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: okay, well no deal there. man I'm pretty much clean out of ideas.
[08:06] <philfo1> dang.
[08:06] <philfo1> should I work the graphics card driver idea then?
[08:06] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: btw - the reason I had you check that bug #94048
[08:06] <philfo1> wait, it shouldn't be affecting me anyways
[08:06] <LeeJunFan> crap no bug bot here :)
[08:07] <LeeJunFan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-desktop/+bug/94048
[08:07] <nonuda_> guys..right now i'm downloading ubuntu desktop, after i installed, do i have to reconfigure something again like drivers or i just sit relax and enjoy it ? ;)
[08:09] <daskreech2> both?
[08:09] <David> How can i install my network card? is a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[08:10] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: you might cat ~/.xsession-errors and see if there's any x errors listed.
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> David: it should work out of the box
[08:11] <philfo1> LeeJunFan:
[08:11] <philfo1> whoops, lots of them
[08:11] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: there's bound to be some, most are non-fatal things that really won't affect you probably.
[08:12] <intelikey> ignoring wacom of course philfo1
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> night all
[08:12] <Jucato> g'night Admiral_Chicago!
[08:12] <philfo1> wacom?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> David: how are you trying to connect
[08:13] <mervteck> can anyone tell me the propper commands to install VLC?
[08:14] <intelikey> apt-get install vlc
[08:14] <philfo1> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12889/
[08:14] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:15] <mervteck> did that it didnt work =\
[08:15] <mervteck> weird it worked this time
[08:15] <mervteck> and its the exact same command i put in
[08:15] <Jucato> :D
[08:15] <intelikey> how do you know it didn't work ?
[08:15] <mervteck> it errored earlier
[08:15] <mervteck> saying unknown package or somthin
[08:15] <Jucato> anyone here has Dia installed?
[08:16] <Jucato> mervteck: maybe the first time you didn't have the universe repository enabled
[08:16] <mervteck> no i did, i have everything enabled =P
[08:16] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: nothing stands out there either, almost all of those invalid input dev are the wacom tablet driver things, which are normal.
[08:16] <mervteck> anyone have cedega and know how to fix bf2 problems? or steam problems?
[08:16] <mervteck> the cedega channel is useless
[08:16] <intelikey> mervteck that was kinda my point.     like "what was the error message"  but it's  a moot point now anyway
[08:16] <nonuda_> anyone here know a program like sonic foundry acid in windows?
[08:16] <philfo1> ok.
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: what if you run a program from a konsole instead of clicking the icon?
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: for instance type konsole in a konsole.
[08:17] <intelikey> dpkg - warning: while removing libnss3, directory `/usr/lib/firefox' not empty so not removed.
[08:17] <intelikey> tty23 [root#~]  rm -R /usr/lib/firefox
[08:17] <philfo1> even running konsole takes a long time.
[08:17] <intelikey> now it's empty.
[08:18] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: if you start it from within konsole it takes a long time? same as clicking an icon?
[08:18] <philfo1> I'll try though
[08:19] <philfo1> how do i run an app in konsole?
[08:19] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: just type it's name
[08:20] <philfo1> right,  I spelled it wrong
[08:20] <intelikey> tab-completion
[08:20] <intelikey> use the tab key luke.
[08:20] <philfo1> after I was having a hard time with gimp, I was trying to open wine but the app wouldn't open at all
[08:23] <philfo1> running from konsole is a bit faster, but not much
[08:24] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: try starting xterm
[08:24] <philfo1> xterm?
[08:24] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: I'm trying to rule out kde issues rather than X. xterm is not a kde application, and if it starts fast then kde may well be your issue.
[08:24] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: yeah.
[08:25] <LeeJunFan> !info xterm
[08:25] <ubotu> xterm: X terminal emulator. In component main, is optional. Version 216-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 401 kB, installed size 992 kB
[08:25] <LeeJunFan> oh, it's optional. I thought xterm was standard install.
[08:26] <philfo1> so what do I do with xterm?
[08:27] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: did it open? and how fast?
[08:27] <philfo1> from terminal, most things open faster.
[08:27] <philfo1> hold on
[08:27] <intelikey> they told me yestergo that xterm was standard install stuff
[08:28] <philfo1> took 7 seconds to open xterm from run command option
[08:28] <K`zan> I just installed feisty and am wondering if I have to install everything I have in my edgy installation or if there is some way to bring feisty up to all those packages other than manually?  TIA.
[08:28] <LeeJunFan> yeah, that's still way too slow - should be 1-2 seconds tops.
[08:28] <philfo1> right.
[08:29] <Jucato> yeah 2 seconds here
[08:30] <intelikey> hmmm takes 14 seconds for me to "startx"
[08:30] <philfo1> i'm wondering if a setting in my BIOS
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: could be but doesn't really make sense. When you move windows around on the screen do they lag really bad or is it quite smooth?
[08:32] <philfo1> either way, I'm not getting any work done with the computer like this.
[08:32] <intelikey> 6 seconds for x-terminal-emulator    xterm is not installed.
[08:32] <philfo1> horrible choppy lag
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: really? well, that could be BIOS, if it can't move data across the bus it's going to be dang slow.
[08:33] <philfo1> early yesterday it was screaming fast though
[08:34] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: also could be gfx driver, but I'd still lean away from that causing slow opening like that. Even if the gfx drivers are messed it should at least start opening a window pretty quickly.
[08:34] <philfo1> I can check bios settings but I don't think anything would be out of whack there.  I've changed nothing.
[08:34] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: well, have you changed bios settings since screaming yesterday?
[08:34] <philfo1> nope
[08:34] <LeeJunFan> heh, okay, rule that out then.
[08:34] <LeeJunFan> what was making you think gfx drivers?
[08:34] <LeeJunFan> you installed something yesterday?
[08:36] <philfo1> well, I wanted to Cal my monitor, and I have to have my gfx card installed properly.  I followed the instructions on the irc bot's ATI page for x86 arch & then it slowed down a ton.
[08:37] <philfo1> so tonight I was going to see if I could come back & do it again with another version that could be more right and instead wound up having to reconfig the card
[08:37] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: okay, perhaps you should undo the ATI stuff. Are you on feisty?
[08:37] <philfo1> for just generic settings so I could get on with my work.
[08:37] <philfo1> edgy
[08:38] <philfo1> there's no ATI settings now
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: did you remove xserver-xorg-fglrx?
[08:38] <philfo1> remove?
[08:38] <philfo1> I don't know.
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: sudo apt-get remove xerver-xorg-fglrx
[08:38] <philfo1> I ran like 2000 commands in some short period of time
[08:39] <ffffu> help..i installed fiesty on my raid1, now at grub, i can't load the kernel.. it says File not found
[08:39] <ffffu> but when i boot into recovery, it goes into busy box
[08:39] <ffffu> what shd i do
[08:40] <philfo1> LeeJunFan:  it returned E: Couldn't find package xerver-xorg-fglrx
[08:40] <philfo1> Imust have removed it
[08:41] <LeeJunFan> yeah, must be.
[08:41] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: try this - glxinfo | grep "client glx vend"
[08:41] <LeeJunFan> and see if it says SGI or ATI
[08:41] <philfo1> ATI
[08:42] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: hrm, something fglrx is still on your system then.
[08:42] <ffffu> LeeJunFan: the raid problem still there
[08:42] <ffffu> !raid
[08:42] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:42] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[08:42] <philfo1> Xfree86-DRI" missing on display
[08:43] <ffffu> help..
[08:43] <philfo1> ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                          7.1.0-8.28.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-11.2           Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[08:43] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: yeah, your problem seems to be with initrd, w/o a working linux system to work on and w/o knowing how intitramfs works it's probably a bit much to tackle. :(
[08:43] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: it's installed still
[08:43] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: I gave you the wrong package name - sorry.
[08:43] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:45] <ffffu> hmm initrd
[08:45] <ffffu> how can i modify it
[08:45] <philfo1> i have a hankering to stick some electronics in a big degausser...
[08:45] <ffffu> do u mean the mbr there?
[08:45] <philfo1> ok, it's gone
[08:45] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: no, initrd is a virtual root fs that is use during bootup.
[08:46] <intelikey> ffffu initramfs images are not really modifyable.  you simply build a replacement.
[08:46] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: mbr loads kernel, kernel loads initrd, initrd sets up the system and mounts the root fs then hands control over to init
[08:46] <intelikey> ffffu main problem is it needs to be built from within the working system.
[08:46] <ffffu> so which part does it load the raid module so that grub can find my kernel in my raid harddisk?
[08:47] <philfo1> LeeJunFan: where do we go now?
[08:47] <ffffu> i could boot in live cd, go into terminal and mount my harddisk i guess
[08:47] <philfo1> Sing it Axel!
[08:47] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: yeah, you can modify it by unarchiving it with cpio but that's way beyond what I'm going to get into on IRC especially at this hr.
[08:48] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: that's where initrd is failing - it can't mount your rootmnt so it craps you out to busybox.
[08:48] <ffffu> ok... ok now i can see the grub menu..but when i choose my kernel it says file not found.. which part does it load the module so grub can find my kernel?
[08:48] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: that could be a number of reasons with raid, perhaps it's missing the md module or one of it's daughters.
[08:49] <ffffu> to me i don't think it goes into initrd because it can't even find the kernel
[08:49] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: grub says it can't find your kernel? did you put /boot on raid?
[08:49] <philfo1> recovery disk
[08:50] <intelikey> LeeJunFan wait.  "<ffffu> ok... ok now i can see the grub menu..but when i choose my kernel it says file not found.. "  <<< that looks like a menu.lst error.
[08:50] <LeeJunFan> philfo1: I dunno, short of making sure you don't have fglrx in your xorg.conf, then reboot the system.
[08:50] <philfo1> wow.
[08:50] <intelikey> am i missing something ?
[08:50] <ffffu> yeah
[08:50] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: he's got raid, if the kernel is on raid grub can't reach it - unless grub can mount raid arrays, and I'm just unaware of it.
[08:51] <ffffu> its definately a menu.lst error.. i didn't put /boot raid
[08:51] <ffffu> what's the correct command i should put behind ?
[08:51] <philfo1> see y'all soon
[08:51] <intelikey> LeeJunFan but grub can't load the menu.list unless it mounts the boot prtition
[08:51] <ubuntu_> How good is 7.04 connecting wireless?
[08:52] <intelikey> and if it can see the menu.lst and can't find the kernel   then it's not initramfs.img.
[08:52] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: true, good line of thought.
[08:52] <intelikey> it's menu.lst
[08:52] <Ryiel> Does anyone know how to copy files to a guest os in virtualbox?
[08:52] <ffffu> what should be in my menu.lst ? root            (hd0,0) ?
[08:53] <LeeJunFan> !grub
[08:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:54] <LeeJunFan> ffffu: you need to identify what kernel you do have on /boot for grub to load. Then make sure grub is aware of that kernel image, and it's initrd, etc...
[08:55] <intelikey> ffffu the root entry tells grub where to look for the kernel and initramfs.img    the  root= entry on the kernel line tells the kernel where the system is.  which in turn the initramfs mounts and makes avalable.    (just some basics of how it works)
[08:55] <LeeJunFan> I really need to get to bed, good luck to ya.
[08:56] <intelikey> i should have said  (root) -vs- root=/*
[08:57] <drewzf> Sorry for the hopping
[08:57] <intelikey> do you follow ?      root    (blah)    and  root=/blah   don't have to be the same partition nor the same disk.   mine infact aren't.
[08:59] <cypher1> i installed kubuntu on my ubuntu machine.. in KDE the fonts are very large in menus, thunderbird, FF etc
[08:59] <cypher1> am i missing something
[09:00] <drewzf> I need to register a single IP address as 2 name servers, how can I do this?
[09:00] <drewzf> It's only temporary and I have nothing running but a web server.
[09:02] <freeza> does anyone know why when i do a ./configure i get an error msg: Can't find X libraries
[09:03] <cypher1> drewzf: do you mean you want 2 machines with same ip address ?
[09:03] <cypher1> freeza: i think you need X dev files
[09:03] <cypher1> !x-system-dev
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-system-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <bill__k> can someone point me to whatever i need to configure to get a remote connection to basically the terminal
[09:03] <bill__k> vnc isn't an option (too slow)
[09:03] <drewzf> cypher1: No, I want to bind a domain to a machine with a single public IP address.
[09:03] <intelikey> freeza normally that would be because they are not installed
[09:03] <freeza> ok
[09:04] <freeza> is the package called x-system-dev?
[09:04] <cypher1> freeza: not sure
[09:04] <pollyo> Does kubuntu support my microsoft IR remote control in anyway?
[09:05] <intelikey> xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries
[09:05] <cypher1> freeza: check in the configure script, which file or directory it is expecting.. then search on packages.ubuntu.com to find the package
[09:06] <Jucato> freeza: xorg-dev
[09:06] <philfo1> ok, I'm back.  that reboot took a long time.
[09:06] <Jucato> oh intelikey said it
[09:06] <Black_Cat> hello. when i try to configure dialup connection thru kppp it shows: "/etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read." what do i do?
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[09:06] <intelikey> that's ok just ignore me.
[09:06] <intelikey> :)
[09:07] <freeza> ok cool thx
[09:07] <cypher1> Jucato: i installed kubuntu in my ubuntu and now the fonts in all menus of thunderbird, FF, xchat etc etc has become large.. have i missed anything ?
[09:07] <philfo1> well, the computer is still incredibly slow.
[09:08] <Jucato> cypher1: thunderbird, firefox, and xchat are GTK apps. so they would have a different setting from the rest of KDE. try checking System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts
[09:08] <philfo1> slow, let's just say.
[09:08] <philfo1> i'm at the point right now where I am going to be forced to go find a Windoze alternative because I have to get this job done.
[09:09] <cypher1> Jucato: i do not seem to have Apperance option anywhere in the menu
[09:09] <pollyo> philfo1: What do you need to get done?
[09:09] <Jucato> cypher1: not in the menu. in K Menu -> System Settings
[09:09] <Jucato> cypher1: you are running on KDE right now, right?
[09:09] <cypher1> Jucato: ah got it
[09:09] <cypher1> Jucato: sorry very new to KDE
[09:10] <philfo1> I need to take a 168MB TIFF image and restore it.  it's a scan of a very old photo.  my lab has outsourced it to me personally because of an emergency.
[09:10] <philfo1> before I loaded linux, I would have been done with this in 2 hours.
[09:10] <smile> good mornin everybody
[09:11] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[09:11] <smile> how can I use Kbabel to translate a word ?
[09:11] <anti_pop> someone else login problems in ICQ ?
[09:11] <philfo1> I've barely started it and linux has done nothing but get in the way.  just too slow.  something about the OS and my machine right now.  I don't know
[09:12] <philfo1> looks like another install might be coming tomorrow.
[09:12] <smile> someone can tell me how to use Kbabel to translate a word ?
[09:12] <pollyo> philfo1: Why not just install your old windows on a portion of the drive?  Make a dual boot system until you get up to speed on linux?  Sounds like you might need windows for your work until you can see if linux has the applications available that you will need for your work.
[09:13] <philfo1> but it might be a big build.  Suse perhapse
[09:13] <philfo1> I don't have that amount of time
[09:13] <pollyo> philfo1: My system is currently dual boot and I find myself booting windows very rare since 13 March (when I installed linux)
[09:14] <cypher1> Jucato: thanks! i switched to "clearlooks" and it is better now
[09:14] <philfo1> yesterday, afternoon the system was working very well & now it's slow like cold bear crap on a frozen pond
[09:15] <philfo1> I intended on having mine a dual-boot machine & it was for a few days.
[09:15] <pollyo> philfo1: Did you trash your windows partition?
[09:16] <philfo1> but the C: drive for windows was RAID configured and my linux install was on a very slow (turned out to be probably corrupted) drive
[09:16] <smile> philfo1: havin a multiboot has nothing to do with the speed of Linux ... chech your SWAP space
[09:16] <pollyo> philfo1: I did that on one of my machines  only after successfully resizing the ntfs partition.  I later selected it for installation of linux. Uggg.. What a dumb move on my part.
[09:16] <philfo1> my whole system is backed up on a 250gb external
[09:16] <philfo1> 3GB swap space
[09:17] <philfo1> I really love Linux.  but now that I NEED it to work, I'm having the worst problems I can.
[09:17] <bruja8> what is the purpose of having RAID?
[09:17] <philfo1> well, not quite the worst, but I'm still not working on any imagery.
[09:17] <smile> philfo1: 3 G :-o ... this is too much .. u just need the double of the memory card space
[09:18] <smile> philfo1: if u have 265ko memory .. make 512 swap spaces .. etc.
[09:18] <smile> philfo1: Linux can be fast on the slowest Pc in the world
[09:19] <philfo1> kubuntu did that on an auto-install
[09:19] <philfo1> but let me open gparted.
[09:20] <ggulmatt> hi
[09:20] <philfo1> smile: my system is not slow at all though
[09:21] <smile> u run Karamba ?
[09:21] <philfo1> and how do I find out how big my ko memory is?
[09:21] <intelikey> smile hmmm i had kbabel installed.  but when i opened it it said i had to fill out some info so i don't have it insalled anymore   sorry can't help ya there.
[09:21] <philfo1> karamba?
[09:22] <smile> intelikey: I know .. i didnt understand what these info r ? :-(
[09:22] <smile> philfo1: what is ur configuration ?
[09:22] <philfo1> you mean hardware?
[09:23] <smile> philfo1: ya
[09:24] <fuzzy_logic> hi
[09:24] <smile> fuzzy_logic: hi
[09:25] <pollyo> philfo1: did you check to see if anything is sucking resources?
[09:25] <philfo1> smile: P4 3.4GHz 2BM L3 cpu,  3+GB RAM,  linux currently installed on an 80GB SATA drive, formerly RAID configured.
[09:25] <philfo1> my comp is just sucking.
[09:25] <pollyo> philfo1: I had a little program running that had a guy walk around on my screen and it seemed to crash and slow my computer to a snails pace until I went in and killed the application.
[09:25] <fuzzy_logic> just a quick question.. i added a new panel in kde, but when i try to configure it i get the configuration screen of the taskbar
[09:26] <smile> philfo1: wooow .. u hav the fastest pc in the world .. it's perfect ..
[09:26] <philfo1> I don't know what my background apps are.
[09:26] <philfo1> no, not fastest pc in the world
[09:26] <smile> philfo1: check if u have a process that takes much ressorces
[09:26] <philfo1> should I change the size of my swap?
[09:26] <pollyo> philfo1: I think you hit Ctrl-ESC for a list of apps running.
[09:27] <smile> philfo1: no
[09:27] <fuzzy_logic> anyone help plz?
[09:27] <ffffu> now i get it
[09:27] <ffffu> i'm triyng to boot from dual harddisk /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 by using raid
[09:28] <philfo1> ok, ctrl-esc didn't do that, it opened rename
[09:28] <fuzzy_logic>  i added a new panel in kde, but when i try to configure it i get the configuration screen of the taskbar
[09:28] <pollyo> philfo1: Are you in kde or gnome?
[09:28] <nonuda> guys, i'm instaling ubuntu-desktop using adept manager, and i see i error in download, it is openoffice.org-style-default, will it be a problem? and can i fix it?
[09:28] <smile> philfo1: ok .. type ksysguard
[09:29] <intelikey> fuzzy_logic there is a bug.   i think you have to restart kde.
[09:29] <intelikey> not sure.
[09:29] <philfo1> there were two ksysguards going at once.
[09:29] <philfo1> one had two d's at the end.
[09:30] <fuzzy_logic> ah ok.. thanks ill try that intelikely
[09:30] <cypher1> rhythmbox is playing mp3's but amarok is not playing mp3s.. do we need to install separate libraries for getting mp3 support in amarok ?
[09:30] <philfo1> ok, ksysguard is open.
[09:30] <pollyo> Anyone know if I can make use of my windows media center remote control with linux in anyway?
[09:31] <philfo1> smile: you saw what I have in this machine.  it takes over 20 seconds to just open a konsole.
[09:31] <philfo1> not cool at all
[09:31] <smile> philfo1: now check the biggest Vmsize and Vmrss
[09:31] <intelikey> pollyo i don't know.  but.  linux does have ir support.
[09:31] <pollyo> inelikey: Ok. Thank you.
[09:31] <smile> philfo1: and tell me what's the process
[09:32] <intelikey> pollyo look in   kcontrol > parifreals
[09:32] <intelikey> iirc.
[09:33] <philfo1> konversation is the largest.
[09:33] <philfo1> then knotify
[09:34] <philfo1> 101 processes running though
[09:34] <fuzzy_logic> another question.. does anyone know what i should do before i can do a bluetooth file transfer?
[09:35] <smile> philfo1: thats normal .. nothing's wrong :-(
[09:35] <philfo1> kwin is big, ksysguard, klauncher.
[09:35] <malta> ciao
[09:35] <smile> philfo1: did u installed Compiz or Beryl ?
[09:35] <philfo1> nope
[09:35] <malta> c' qualche italiano?????????????
[09:35] <Jucato> !it | malta
[09:35] <ubotu> malta: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:36] <malta> ok
[09:36] <malta> grazie
[09:36] <charlie5> hi ... does anyone use the kubu repositories in .au ? ... i cannot seem to connect at the moment
[09:36] <pollyo> intelikey: Looking
[09:37] <fuzzy_logic> charlie5: not in .au, but you can try to connect to other server maybe?
[09:37] <pollyo> intelikey: I do not see that option.
[09:37] <pollyo> intelikey: Perhaps I need to install a package.
[09:38] <charlie5> fuzzy_logic: thanks, i guess i should try that if it doesn't work soon \
[09:38] <intelikey> pollyo i may not remember where it is...  but try in the networking section....  seems like it may be with the bluetooth stuff
[09:38] <philfo1> if I do one more install, i'm hoping to link these two 80GB drives back up into RAID
[09:38] <smile> philfo1: i dunno really whats wrong .. that must work well .. !?
[09:39] <philfo1> no, it's just one of those things I'd like to do.
[09:39] <fuzzy_logic> have2reboot.. cya
[09:39] <philfo1> I have no idea what's wrong either.
[09:39] <intelikey> fuzzy_logic what for ?
[09:39] <philfo1> I'm beyond frustration
[09:40] <intelikey> libtranslate-bin - command line translator <<< anyone know anything about that ?
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> back
[09:40] <philfo1> this photo restoration was due next wednesday, but the customers mother passed away last night (photos of her mother I'm restoring) and now she needs them saturday.
[09:40] <intelikey> that was a reboot ?
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> well.. actually a restart of x
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> lol
[09:40] <fuzzy_logic> that was suggested by someone as a solution to my problem :)
[09:40] <philfo1> I'm going to have to use another comp
[09:41] <fuzzy_logic> op'd? what's that?
[09:41] <philfo1> I'm so disappointed because I've been here on this forum for the last 5 days getting help with one thing or another.
[09:41] <coty> Is there an app for recording my screen
[09:41] <smile> philfo1: no .. ur comp is perfect .. something wrong in linux configuration
[09:41] <philfo1> I want to USE my computer, not just fix it
[09:41] <intelikey> daz da guys dat can ban you from da channel.
[09:42] <Tm_T> intelikey: what's that?
[09:42] <intelikey> Tm_T just playing.
[09:42] <smile> philfo1: no one can help u if u dont know what's wrong exactly
[09:42] <coty> intelikey: do you know of a good app for recording the screen
[09:42] <fuzzy_logic> yes! that reboot worked.. thanks for the one who suggested that
[09:42] <philfo1> right.
[09:42] <intelikey> screenshot or active recording ?
[09:42] <Tm_T> intelikey: hmh, can I still kick you, just for playing?
[09:42] <coty> intelikey: active recording
[09:42] <philfo1> well, i'm a linux n00b.  5 days
[09:43] <philfo1> that's it.
[09:43] <coty> same
[09:43] <intelikey> Tm_T sure if you fell like it.
[09:43] <smile> philfo1: the speed of linux depends on many reason .. memory .. disk kind .. process .. Xserver .. ....
[09:43] <fuzzy_logic> lol.. i'm 2 weeks!! mwaha :P
[09:43] <Tm_T> intelikey: hmh, then no
[09:43] <fuzzy_logic> anyone use xchat?
[09:43] <philfo1> well, should I do another install?
[09:43] <intelikey> coty there is but it would tame me a month of sundays to find it.
[09:43] <coty> fuzzy_logic: i have it but dont use it
[09:43] <philfo1> I've got another 80GB drive ready to go.
[09:44] <coty> intelikey: could you give me the name
[09:44] <philfo1> but I'm getting really tired of reconfiguring stuff.
[09:44] <intelikey> fuzzy_logic and you're welcome.
[09:44] <smile> philfo1: maybe
[09:44] <intelikey> coty that's what would take so long.
[09:44] <coty> intelikey: oh
[09:44] <philfo1> that will be my 3rd full install in less than a week
[09:44] <fuzzy_logic> do you know how to always show a userlist in a sidebar or so?
[09:44] <intelikey> !recording
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recording - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:44] <fuzzy_logic> shit! schooltime.. cya peeps.. thanks for help
[09:44] <coty> so does anyone else know on the spot of a screen recorder
[09:44] <smile> philfo1: i will give u a good partition .. wait
[09:44] <pollyo> Ahhh.... lirc
[09:45] <coty> lirc?
[09:45] <intelikey> !away > fuzzy_logic
[09:45] <coty> !away>coty
[09:45] <intelikey> coty iirc is irc short hand for 'if i recall correctly'
[09:45] <pollyo> coty: Yes for using remote controls on linux.
[09:46] <smile> philfo1: make a 70 Mb /boot
[09:46] <coty> oh
[09:46] <intelikey> ah lirc
[09:46] <intelikey> not iirc
[09:46] <intelikey> heh
[09:46] <coty> i was hoping for a screen recorder
[09:46] <intelikey> yeah that's it pollyo
[09:46] <smile> philfo1: 700Mb Swap
[09:46] <pollyo> coty: I have this Mircrosoft Media Center remote and I want to see if I can use it for something on linux.
[09:46] <coty> oh
[09:46] <smile> philfo1: and the rest root (/)
[09:47] <coty> i would like a screen recorder so i can give some tutorials
[09:47] <intelikey> i got behind but now i'm....   still behind
[09:47] <smile> pollyo: did u truied wine ?
[09:47] <pollyo> smile: I love wine with my linux.
[09:47] <pollyo> smile: Though I do not make use of it much.
[09:47] <coty> wine does not work for me
[09:48] <coty> so does anyone know of a screen recorder
[09:48] <pollyo> smile: I want to look into using my windows dll's on wine.
[09:48] <pollyo> smile: I was reading that it might make more things work under wine.
[09:48] <smile> pollyo: and maybe ur media center
[09:48] <pollyo> smile: I have to read up on it more.
[09:48] <philfo1> pinot noir with smoked gouda and a hard baugette
[09:49] <coty> so im guessing there is no screen recorders
[09:49] <pollyo> smile: I'll have to look into that a bit more.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[09:49] <_4str1> coty: i have recordMyDesktop
[09:49] <smile> pollyo: welcome
[09:49] <coty> is that a app i can get in adept
[09:50] <_4str1> yes
[09:50] <coty> ok
[09:50] <coty> thanks
[09:50] <_4str1> but not working very well on my computer
[09:51] <coty> _4str1: why not?
[09:51] <_4str1> too greedy i think
[09:51] <_4str1> but i havent configure it for the moment
[09:51] <_4str1> just test with the default configuration
[09:52] <_4str1> that's, maybe, the reason why ..
[09:52] <coty> im firing up adept
[09:52] <AZNSLD> !apache
[09:52] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:52] <pollyo> !lirc
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <_4str1> coty: sorry for my english but i'm french ;)
[09:53] <coty> _4str1: no worrys im itlian XD
[09:54] <_4strO> ^^
[09:54] <coty> but i live in america
[09:55] <coty> byzanz is a desktop recorder also
[09:55] <coty> i just found it
[09:55] <_4strO> hh will try
[09:55] <bruja8> buy can you record the beryl effects with that?
[09:55] <coty> so is istanbul
[09:55] <_4strO> i want to record my wonderfull beryl desktop
[09:55] <bruja8> cuz i couldn't
[09:56] <bruja8> i get a blue screen
[09:56] <_4strO> whith ?
[09:56] <coty> i still have not gotten beryl
[09:56] <coty> I'd love to
[09:56] <coty> but...
[09:56] <philfo1> sorry to bring it up here, but has anyone tried SuSe?
[09:56] <bruja8> i used istanbul and recordmydesktop and x11....
[09:57] <coty> not many people up for being able to help
[09:57] <bruja8> i tried suse
[09:57] <bruja8> why?
[09:57] <coty> i cant find recordmydesktop
[09:57] <philfo1> just wondering.
[09:57] <philfo1> looking for potential alternatives
 so is istanbul <<< that's the one that it would take me so long to remember.
[09:57] <bruja8> i find it extremely slow
[09:57] <bruja8> suse that is
[09:57] <coty> lol
[09:57] <coty> intelikey
[09:57] <philfo1> really, maybe I won't then.
[09:58] <intelikey> you might try it.
[09:58] <coty> all i had to do was put in record
[09:58] <coty> in the adept
[09:58] <philfo1> because I'm dealing with extremely slow right now
[09:58] <coty> i can see why it would be hard to remeber
[09:58] <smile> philfo1: i tried Suse
[09:58] <bruja8> the installation of about 4G takes up too 2hours
[09:58] <bruja8> sometimes more
[09:59] <smile> philfo1: perfect .. i liked it
[09:59] <_4strO> coty: have you the multiverse repo active ?
[09:59] <bruja8> besides, i believe that ubuntu is more stable that suse, but ofcourse, it is only what i  think
[09:59] <smile> philfo1: Suse 10 (7 CDs)
[09:59] <philfo1> smile: that's a large footprint.
[09:59] <intelikey> _4strO answering for him.  yes we did that yestergo.
[09:59] <smile> philfo1: Mandriva too is perfect
[09:59] <coty> _4str0: what
[09:59] <comps> does any1 know how to run mp3 files in kubuntu
[10:00] <_4strO> intelikey: ^^
[10:00] <intelikey> !mp3 > comps
[10:00] <pollyo> BBL
[10:00] <bruja8> mandriva has a prob with firmwares, it reminds me of windows wen you  have to find drivers one by on
[10:00] <smile> philfo1: i use Linux since 2 years .. tried 6 distributions
[10:00] <philfo1> since i'm a Linux n00b, are my problems just going to follow me?
[10:01] <_4strO> !mp3 > _4strO
[10:01] <bruja8> from my experience, there is alwaysproblems philfo1
[10:01] <bruja8> whether it is windows or linux
[10:01] <philfo1> these problems are free though.
[10:01] <smile> philfo1: no :-D .. we were all noob .. by the time u will be excellent ;-)
[10:02] <philfo1> I had to pay windows & symantec for my last set of problems
[10:02] <intelikey> bruja8 Q. what do linux users do ?
[10:02] <comps> how to install wine in ncomputer with kubuntu
[10:02] <intelikey> bruja8 A. they install software.
[10:02] <smile> bruja8: no system is flawless
[10:02] <philfo1> ha ha ha ha ha ha
[10:02] <bruja8> hehehehe
[10:02] <smile> philfo1: pay ? hhhhhhhhhh   .... linux is absolutly FREE & OPEN
[10:03] <bruja8> what i like about linux tho is that you can solve your problem, in windows the error message won't tell yo what the prob is
[10:03] <philfo1> there's a few mechanical systems out there that have some amazing reliability...  speaking of no flawless systems.
[10:03] <smile> linux community is beeing bigger more & more every day
[10:04] <bruja8> i like linux for the community,
[10:04] <philfo1> yeah, I have done more in the last 5 days with my computer than in the prior two years.
[10:04] <intelikey> bruja8 hmmm i never got that far.  the "EULA" stopped me from using M$ crap.
[10:04] <coty> intelikey: how do i use instanbul
[10:04] <philfo1> well, with windows, I did do a bunch of re-installs.
[10:04] <bruja8> heehee
[10:04] <intelikey> oh shoot late again.
[10:04] <bruja8> same here philfo1
[10:05] <philfo1> so here's my deal:  my computer is SUPER SLOW right now.
[10:05] <bruja8> to be honest, most of my probs with linux are created by me, but on ly most of them
[10:05] <smile> Linux has just problems of compatibility .. but with small configuration it can work fine
[10:05] <philfo1> too slow for me to work, which I have to do though.
[10:05] <philfo1> I use it mostly for heavy duty graphics processing.
[10:06] <philfo1> no 3d, but very large photo files.
[10:06] <philfo1> 1GB TIFF is definitely not unheard of in my applications
[10:06] <smile> philfo1: try to find out the real reason ..then we will see .. if u cant .. just install another linux (try SuSE 10) and get started with LINUX WOLRD
[10:07] <bruja8> and that's under windows or linux philfo1
[10:07] <philfo1> linux.
[10:07] <philfo1> windows could not allocate enough memory to even use the file
[10:07] <bruja8> wow!!!
[10:08] <bruja8> what is the size of you swap?
[10:09] <bruja8> what is the size of you swap? philfo1
[10:09] <philfo1> last time I "shut down" windows I was doing a 6cm x 12cm color slide scan at 4800dpi, 16pass, 16bit depth
[10:09] <philfo1> 3gb
[10:09] <philfo1> nobody on here can figure out why my machine is running so slow.
[10:09] <philfo1> takes 22 seconds to open konsole
[10:09] <philfo1> it's horrible.
[10:10] <philfo1> I need to get it fixed so I can deliver my product.
[10:10] <AZNSLD> Hey is anyone good with MySQL?
[10:10] <bruja8> did you try to do an fresh install? philfo1
[10:10] <philfo1> unfortunately, had I been using my old windows system  (which is gone) I would be sleeping in bed now
[10:10] <AZNSLD> I could use some help
[10:10] <philfo1> I can, but really don't feel like it.
[10:10] <philfo1> but I can.
[10:10] <philfo1> sigh.
[10:11] <AZNSLD> linux MySQL?
[10:11] <philfo1> I've got a spare 80gb drive ready to go
[10:11] <Black_Cat> AZNSLD: wouldn't mind more details.
[10:11] <AZNSLD> umm
[10:11] <smile> AZNSLD: welcome
[10:11] <AZNSLD> Where do I enter the password for MySQL
[10:11] <AZNSLD> lol
[10:11] <AZNSLD> it is asking me for one
[10:11] <AZNSLD> but how do u enter it
[10:12] <bruja8> good luck with it philfo1, google which distro tends to be the fastest , and see if you can install that
[10:12] <philfo1> gotcha.
[10:12] <AZNSLD> root@Jeremy:/home/jeremy# mysql -u root
[10:12] <AZNSLD> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[10:12] <AZNSLD> where do I enter the password...
[10:12] <Black_Cat> what's the fastest way to change the layout switcher from default altshift to ctrlshift?
[10:13] <smile> did u see
[10:13] <smile> Leon n 1
[10:13] <smile> Thme: Prparation des leons et des contrles continus
[10:13] <smile> Formateur: Mr. ********** Abdesslem (Conseiller pdagogique)
[10:13] <smile> Date: 14/10/2006  9h  CREFOC Gafsa
[10:13] <smile> sorry .. that's nonsense
[10:14] <smile> AZNSLD: did u see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP ?
[10:14] <AZNSLD> so could anyone answer my question..
[10:14] <AZNSLD> yeah
[10:14] <AZNSLD> I am just asking how I enter my password for mysql..
[10:14] <AZNSLD> lol
[10:14] <AZNSLD> n/m
[10:14] <AZNSLD> READING IS t3k!
[10:15] <smile> AZNSLD: see "set root password " section
[10:16] <ffffu> hi anyone knows how to use raid (2 harddisk mirroring each other) to boot up?
[10:16] <ffffu> or anyone knows any link to helpful sites
[10:18] <Black_Cat> ffffu: didn't google help?
[10:18] <bruja8> smile, alors tu parles le francais!!!
[10:19] <smile> bruja8: w :-)
[10:19] <bruja8> et apparament tu es de le maghreb
[10:19] <smile> bruja8: oui , je suis Arabe
[10:19] <philfo1> ffffu: I have a link for you re: RAID
[10:19] <bruja8> tu parles l'araba alors n'estpas
[10:20] <smile> bruja8: kel kestion ???
[10:20] <bruja8> !!!!:P
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <philfo1> ffffu: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[10:20] <bruja8> parceque ana tani netkelm 3arbia
[10:21] <bruja8> ;)
[10:21] <smile> bruja8: wow .. super ... enfin un ARABE avec moi :-)
[10:21] <bruja8> hehehe
[10:21] <smile> bruja8: tu es d'o ?
[10:21] <bruja8> je suis de  l'algerie
[10:22] <bruja8> et toi?
[10:22] <smile> bruja8: enchant .. chui Tunisien
[10:22] <bruja8> enchante!
[10:22] <smile> bruja8: tu a problem dan Linux ?
[10:22] <Hirvinen> !fr
[10:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:23] <philfo1> smile: where did you get the figures from for the sizes of those partitions?
[10:23] <bruja8> broadcom wireless ne travail pas
[10:23] <morghanphoenix> Anyone know what an fstab line for an ipod should look like?
[10:23] <smile> philfo1: from a book .. that's the most suitable partition ... i used it with 6 partition and worked fine
[10:24] <smile> bruja8: dzol .. j pa essay le sans fil :-(
[10:24] <morghanphoenix> Don't know the file system type or options that should go into that line
[10:24] <bruja8> mais c'est parceque kernel a son driver, mais le firmware est incompatible
[10:24] <philfo1> will it work for me even if i'm picking up a 700mb film scan?
[10:25] <smile> morghanphoenix: type "man mount" and read
[10:25] <crusty> hello! my kubuntu do not let me change the wright to write in to the usb external drive...any help?
[10:25] <bruja8> je suis entrain de telecharger dapper parceque the kernel de dapper n'a pas bcm43xx
[10:25] <smile> philfo1: 700mb film scan ? what do u mean ?
[10:25] <bruja8> alors je pourai installer ndiswrapper
[10:25] <morghanphoenix> Been there, done that, tried auto and defaults, says bad file system type when I try to mount it.
[10:26] <philfo1> I am a photographer and I have been known to use TIFFs up to 500mb.  700 is now within my reach if LINUX ever operates properly
[10:27] <philfo1> I have squeezed 1GB out of my scanner before.
[10:27] <ninHer> hi all
[10:27] <smile> philfo1: ?? no idea .. sorry
[10:27] <philfo1> mostly bit-depth info.
[10:27] <bruja8> hi ninHer
[10:27] <philfo1> what would be the problem with making the swap larger?
[10:28] <smile> philfo1: when ur memory becomes full .. linux use the swap spaces
[10:28] <smile> philfo1: so it seems like a second memory ;-)
[10:28] <philfo1> I know.  but would there be any penalty to ahveing a larger swap partition?
[10:28] <smile> philfo1: 700mb will be fine
[10:28] <_4strO> philfo1: nop
[10:28] <bruja8> no not all philfo1
[10:28] <smile> philfo1: NO
[10:28] <philfo1> ok
[10:28] <_4strO> just waste space
[10:29] <philfo1> configuring that other disk now.
[10:29] <_Johny> Hello. Does anyone of you is capable of Using mplayer correctly?
[10:30] <bruja8> yes
[10:30] <smile> _Johny: what's wrong ?
[10:30] <_4strO> thought that swap should be double of RAM space, isnt it ?
[10:30] <AZNSLD> !apache
[10:30] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:30] <AZNSLD> !apache2
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apache2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, didn't expect that one from a kubuntu room, a rtfm type response and no help
[10:30] <smile> !apache
[10:30] <_Johny> Hello everybody. What can I do to define a directory which the subtitles for a movie will be loaded from, all the time? This time, I have to browse that dir everytime I open a movie.
[10:30] <tarelerulz> I have emachine eView 17f3 and I can't find the HorizSync and VertRefresh
[10:31] <_4strO> _Johny: just put your subtitle in the same dir as your movie
[10:32] <_4strO> and use tthe same name as your movie except the file extension
[10:32] <_Johny> can it be in a folder? or just a naked file?
[10:32] <_4strO> _Johny: it always in a dir :p
[10:33] <_4strO> _Johny: it always in a folder* :p
[10:33] <_Johny> _4strO: Yea -:) I meant, to put it in a separate folder or just in the movie dir?
[10:33] <_4strO> just in the movie dir
[10:34] <_Johny> _4strO: Ok. Thank you
[10:34] <chode> _4strO, in the same folder as movie.. so sub dir.. most players will automatically load the sub
[10:34] <chode> *no sub dir
[10:34] <_4strO> chode: thats waht i try to say :p
[10:34] <Black_Cat> now i can say for sure, kubuntu roxx. absolutely no serious problems, unlike mandriva for example... thanx to all kubuntu team members if any of them here :)
[10:35] <_4strO> heuuu Mark are you there ?
[10:35] <_4strO> ^^
[10:40] <smile> bruja8: comment tu a connu ke chui magrbien :-)
[10:41] <bruja8> abdessalam
[10:41] <bruja8> :P
[10:41] <smile> bruja8: comment tu a dout ke chui magrbien ?
[10:42] <bruja8> en general les maghribens utilisent les noms avec (abd)
[10:42] <smile> bruja8: non .. tu m'a di ke je suis de magreb.. comment tu a connu a ?
[10:43] <chode> u guys morrocans?
[10:43] <bruja8> et en plus tu parles le francais et ton nom
[10:43] <chode> *Moroccan
[10:43] <crusty__> hello! i have 255 hard drive shared between windows and kubuntu edgy 6.10....but kubuntu do not let me write on it!!!any help?
[10:44] <smile> crusty__: try " chmod 777 ... "
[10:44] <smile> bruja8: mon nom ??
[10:44] <crusty__> done it....no change
[10:44] <coty> hey can someone tell me why i cant use my second drive
[10:44] <_4strO> and check your samba conf file
[10:44] <Black_Cat> crusty__: filesystem? NTFS?
[10:44] <smile> chode: no morrocans .. tunisian :-)
[10:44] <crusty__> yes
[10:44] <coty> im trying t download something but i cant download it to my second drive
[10:44] <Black_Cat> ntfs is read-only afaik
[10:45] <smile> crusty__: with sudo ?
[10:45] <chode> crusty, ntfs-3g
[10:45] <bruja8> oubien abdeslem
[10:45] <crusty__> still the same
[10:45] <coty> i cant even mount my second drive
[10:45] <_4strO> coty:
[10:45] <_4strO> oups sorry
[10:45] <crusty__> iv tried all......no way to write on it
[10:45] <bruja8> je suis pas sure que ca c'est ton vrai nom
[10:46] <smile> crusty__: if u have ntfs .. dont try .. it's read-only
[10:46] <coty> can some tell me how to fix this problem
[10:46] <smile> crusty__: i think .. i had the same problem with Mandriva last year
[10:46] <crusty__> the problen is that i can format it on fat.....is to big!
[10:46] <chode> smile, ntfs-3g allows read/write
[10:46] <coty> I need this drive
[10:47] <smile> crusty__: try this under Windows ..with Partition magic
[10:47] <smile> coty: really ??
[10:47] <Black_Cat> crusty__: when saying "shared" you mean on one PC or different ones?
[10:47] <coty> yes
[10:47] <crusty__> yes ! thats the idea.......
[10:47] <coty> smile: it will not work
[10:47] <coty> coty: i want to use my slave drive
[10:47] <_4strO> crusty__: u can format it with linux
[10:47] <smile> coty: u mean we can write on a ntfs partition ?
[10:48] <coty> smile: i dont know
[10:48] <smile> coty: i think no .. i tried and it didnt work .. just read
[10:48] <chode> smile, yes i have an ntfs drive as well shared between windows and ubuntu i can write to it
[10:48] <coty> smile: no i have a second drive
[10:49] <coty> smile: it is fat
[10:49] <coty> smile: i think anyway
[10:49] <nodesert> i installed the glut-doc but i dont know where it is (i suppose it must be in /usr/share/doc
[10:49] <AZNSLD_> !apache
[10:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:49] <smile> chode: i tried with RedHAT .. just read .. maybe now they made a driver to NTFS
[10:50] <crusty__> there is a program for kubuntu as partition magic that i can install
[10:50] <chode> ntfs-3g was experimental untill recently.. but as from early this month or last month.. they released a stable version
[10:50] <_4strO> crusty__: qparted
[10:50] <chode> they claim it's stable and no risk writing on it
[10:50] <crusty__> ok ill try it
[10:51] <chode> crusty__, qtparted
[10:51] <_4strO> oups i forgot the T
[10:52] <chode> crusty__, also if u want files moved between ur widnows n kubuntu.. u can get files on ext3 files systems using a very small free program called explorefs.. under windows
[10:53] <chode> i dun think fat32 fits as a storage now.. since it won;t allow u to store a single file if the size exeeds 4 GB
[10:53] <crusty__> ok...can i format end partition the drive with qtparted?
[10:53] <chode> so if i want to use it as a storage stick with something that supports big file sizes
[10:53] <chode> since even a backup image of a dvd will also exeed 4 gb most of the time
[10:54] <chode> crusty__, it's explore2fs..
[10:54] <crusty__> the situation is this...iv got windows and kubuntu on the same pc and 255gb usb hard drivewindows is ok kubuntu only read
[10:54] <chode> crusty__, hang on a sec
[10:54] <chode> i'll link u
[10:56] <smile> crusty__: i think u can format with "disks-admin"
[10:56] <chode> crusty__, i'll give u a detailed how-to install ntfs-3g... it will allow u write on it.. and also if it;s removable it'll auto detect once u plug in the drive and create an icon on the desktop
[10:57] <crusty__> ok!
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> Today is a day for the history books! rtfm from kubuntu, help in a channel that usually says that
[10:57] <morghanphoenix> G'night
[10:59] <chode> crusty__, u have edgy ??
[11:00] <chode> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009      follow this guide
[11:00] <chode> use the automatic method..
[11:00] <Black_Cat> what's the fastest way to change the layout switcher from default altshift to ctrlshift?
[11:01] <crusty__> iv tried with disk and file sistem administration...but no changes...yes iv got kubuntu edgy
[11:02] <chode> crusty__, follow that link i gave u
[11:02] <crusty__> ok thanks ill try.......many thenks to all!
[11:08] <AZNSLD> !apache
[11:08] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:11] <ffffu> hi, is there a bug using grub between ata harddisk?????????????? i keep getting file not found
[11:11] <ffffu> any experts care to help?
[11:15] <posingaspopular> ffffu, i think so, but if there is, i duno
[11:15] <posingaspopular> !ata
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <ffffu> i keep getting the File not found when booting up..but all my vmlinux and init files are there and correct hd(0,0)
[11:19] <posingaspopular> :/ i know ive seen fixes and similar issues, but im blank
[11:19] <posingaspopular> sory
[11:20] <ffffu> sorry but could u give me some links or reference?
[11:20] <ffffu> or what should i search in google
[11:20] <posingaspopular> just google the general problem
[11:20] <posingaspopular> google.com/linux i should say
[11:21] <posingaspopular> or the ubuntuforums
[11:21] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with lirc?
[11:23] <ffffu> hd(0,0) means the first harddisk first partition? and hd(0,1) means first harfddisk 2nd partition?
[11:39] <J-_> is there anyway to install kubuntu with a base install via, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. or something else rather...?
[11:40] <posingaspopular> J-_, you want kde or kubuntu
[11:40] <posingaspopular> kubuntu is ubuntu,just cames with different stuff out the box
[11:41] <J-_> well, I run ubuntu.. I just want another DM.
[11:41] <jxn_> j-_: then install kubuntu-desktop
[11:42] <posingaspopular> yup jxn_ is right
[11:42] <smile> posingaspopular: kubuntu is KDE ubuntu is Gnome
[11:45] <J-_> will, 'sudo apt-get install kde-libs' install a base install of kubuntu, and not all the kde programs kubuntu-desktop installs?
[11:45] <jxn_> erm, no.
[11:46] <jxn_> just install kubuntu-desktop. you can uninstall programms/packages you don't want later.
[11:47] <J-_> that's a HUGE amount of work, I tried it before.
[11:48] <J-_> !kubuntu-base
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-base - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <jxn_> then install the programs/packages you want. apt will also install the dependencies
[11:49] <J-_> Then it won't give me the DM?
[11:49] <J-_> or will it?
[11:50] <jxn_> eg. konqueror will need some kdelibs. apt checks that.
[11:51] <phyerboss> hey, is anyone else having issues running compiz?
[11:51] <phyerboss> I tried removing it but it refuses to budge
[11:52] <phyerboss> yeah, I read on the forums it was easier to deal with
[11:52] <phyerboss> but I have no clue how to even install apps that are outside of adept
[11:53] <phyerboss> ...so, yeah. Im that new to linux^^;
[11:57] <phyerboss> anyone here know how to get rid of compiz?
[11:57] <pollyo> How do you check to see if you have "universe" enabled?\
[11:58] <_4strO> pollyo: in the file /etc/apt.sources.list
[11:58] <_4strO> pollyo: in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <pollyo> _4strO: Ok. Thanks.
[12:00] <jxn_> !sources.list
[12:00] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:02] <phyerboss> well, going away from the compiz issue...can anyone tell me how they were able to get flash and java working in their browsers?
[12:25] <coty> Hey i need to know how to get my web camera to work on kubuntu
[12:26] <coty> !camera
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <coty> !cameradrivers
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cameradrivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <anti_pop> someone got broken progress bars in firefox on kde ?
[12:29] <wisp> no
[12:29] <jakkass> broken?
[12:29] <jakkass> no
[12:29] <anti_pop> well for example my download progress bar on firefox is broken :)
[12:30] <jakkass> hmm
[12:30] <jakkass> let me download something then
[12:30] <anti_pop> same with xarchiver
[12:30] <anti_pop> i know these are not kde apps
[12:30] <coty> can someone help me with getting my camera to work
[12:31] <anti_pop> i have no idea what messed up my progress bars, it was a ubuntu install, then i installed kubuntu-desktop and removed all gnome stuff i could ;)
[12:31] <jakkass> no its grand anti
[12:31] <jakkass> anti what version of Kubuntu are you using
[12:31] <anti_pop> feisty
[12:31] <jakkass> I'm on feisty
[12:31] <jakkass> it's grand
[12:31] <jakkass> well I updated from Edgy
[12:31] <jakkass> with the repositories
[12:32] <anti_pop> i think it has to do with removal of some gnome stuff
[12:32] <anti_pop> anyway ill have a fresh installation soon
[12:34] <anti_pop> byebye
[12:39] <jxn_> kubuntu rulez
[12:39] <jxn_> just tested feisty beta
[12:40] <LIRON> that he have hebrew support keybored?
[12:43] <J-_> what's a good tut that'll show me how to customize kubuntu?
[12:43] <kugillu> Hi, could anyone help me to install beryl please?
[12:44] <Jucato> !changethemes
[12:44] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[12:46] <J-_> is there an equivalent to gdesklets for kubuntu?
[12:46] <jxn_> J-_: kde-look.org
[12:46] <J-_> !kdesklets
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdesklets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <J-_> hmm
[12:46] <jxn_> superkaramba
[12:46] <J-_> cool, thanks
[12:47] <jxn_> !superkaramba
[12:47] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[12:49] <kugillu> I can't login with xgl session
[12:49] <coty> how can i get my web camera to work
[12:54] <space_ninja> how should I play swf files If I can't install flash?
[12:56] <jxn_> !gnash
[12:56] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:56] <J-_> kubuntu is extensively faster than gnome.... seems it anyway
[12:57] <space_ninja> ok thanks
[12:58] <space_ninja> I got one more questions, What should I do If some data chunks for a bittorrent download failed?
[12:58] <space_ninja> -s
[12:58] <jxn_> delete the corrupt file and redownload it
[12:59] <space_ninja> but everything is almost corrupt. I can't unpack it. It's  a rar file with alot of movies in it (not porn) I get alot of errors when I try
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> !flash9
[01:00] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:00] <space_ninja> I got amd64
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> !flash64
[01:00] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:01] <kugillu> My flash plugin doesn't work properly in amd64
[01:01] <kugillu> it freeze my friefox
[01:02] <kugillu> but everything is ok with firefox32
[01:02] <NiceGuyUK> the plugin itself is 32 bit - I read somewhere about a wrapper for 32bit plugins on 64 bit systems
[01:02] <NiceGuyUK> might take a bit of Googling unless someone here knows the details
[01:04] <J-_> !PyQT
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <J-_> !pyqt
[01:04] <J-_> hmm
[01:06] <J-_> it says i don't have pyqt installed, what is it called in the repos?
[01:09] <kugillu> could anyone help me to install beryl please?
[01:09] <giantess> !nvidia
[01:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <kugillu> ati driver are installed ok
[01:10] <kugillu> 3d is working
[01:10] <kugillu> beryl is installed... but I can't login in xgl session
[01:10] <jxn_> !beryl
[01:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:11] <kugillu> oh thanx I was following that guide, I'll try that channel
[01:11] <jxn_> :)
[01:12] <kugillu> when I start beryl no effect to windows
[01:26] <waylandbill> anyone got fglrx working with <IP_ADDRESS>-generic ?
[01:27] <J-_> is there a differnet type of menubar type thing in SuperKaramba?
[01:28] <chijin> waylandbill: my friend had issues with it i believe, turns out he had to use 1280x1024 instead of 1280x960. would that be the case for you?
[01:28] <waylandbill> chijin: I can't even get the kernel driver to build.
[01:30] <chijin> waylandbill: there was some kind of patch for it
[01:30] <chijin> waylandbill: http://phoronix.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1033
[01:31] <waylandbill> chijin: excellent. I'll check it out. thx
[01:48] <Defaulllt> :)
[01:48] <hansen> what is the state of feisty? It is locked for anything but bugfixes by now or are packages still being upgraded?
[01:49] <Jucato> !schedule | hansen
[01:49] <ubotu> hansen: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> I believe its in a feature freeze...
[01:50] <LjL> it's locked for anything except things that will break people's boot :P
[01:50] <SALIA> :)
[01:50] <hansen> ok, so that means that packages stay whatever version they are now unless something serious is broken
[01:51] <hansen> dammit, I want ufraw 0.11 and feisty has 0.10 only :)
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> so go break it!!!!
[01:52] <hansen> with 0.09 and newer I can get pretty decent colors, but the highlights near clipping are still horrible. And afaics 0.11 has some new code for highlights
[01:52] <hansen> probably not enough of a problem to call it a showstopper for a linux dist :)
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> haha.... yeah...
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> I guess its compile from source then...
[02:14] <pollyo> Anyone have a mceusb remote setup on kubuntu?
[02:17] <pollyo> c vc   l,....................................\
[02:18] <Jonty> I've tried running audacity and aoss audacity, but it always says it's unable to play/record audio. How can I solve this?
[02:24] <ionus> !ntfs
[02:24] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:27] <blueya2> hello, have some troble with installing cinelerra, maybe sb know what the failure ist: configure: http://pastebin.ca/416724    output: http://pastebin.ca/416729
[02:29] <raffytaffy> blueya2 : lines 24 and 32 contain bad info i think
[02:29] <raffytaffy> 31 i mean
[02:29] <blueya2> but "fi" is correct
[02:30] <raffytaffy> well another reason i can think is bcse ubuntu uses /bin/bash instead of bash
[02:31] <raffytaffy> your solution is to run the script thru bash itself
[02:31] <thomas_> oi
[02:31] <raffytaffy> yourself*
[02:31] <blueya2> "bash configure" ?
[02:31] <raffytaffy> blahh i just woke up
[02:32] <raffytaffy> yes try that
[02:32] <blueya2> well great, these erros are fixed
[02:33] <raffytaffy> so it worked yes?
[02:33] <blueya2> yes :D
[02:33] <raffytaffy> ok good
[02:33] <blueya2> good to know, thanks!
[02:33] <raffytaffy> :)
[02:33] <_Johny> Do you know a good system integrity checker?
[02:34] <raffytaffy> fsck
[02:34] <service> my VNC doesn't work....i wonder why
[02:35] <pollyo> Anyone setup irkick?
[02:39] <_Johny> Do you know a good system integrity checker available in Kubuntu, or from command line?
[02:40] <ionus> !write in ntfs
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about write in ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <_4strO> !fsck | _Johny
[02:40] <ubotu> _Johny: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[02:43] <_Johny> _4strO: Does "he" carres for packages as well?
[02:44] <_4strO> _Johny: i dont know, but i dont think so
[02:53] <tdn> I cannot log in to KDE using KDM. /var/log/kdm.log is here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kdm.log. Please help me, cause I have no more ideas of how to investigate this problem :(
[02:54] <tdn> There is a lot of errors in the kdm.log, but I do not understand what they mean.
[02:55] <tdn> This happened suddenly. I have not installed anything new on the computer except maybe the occational updates.
[03:07] <fuzzy_logic> hello
[03:16] <scion> hello all
[03:16] <WaxyFresh> grrr,i cant seem to figure out where i went wrong i installed ubuntu server 5.10 then installed the kubuntu desktop.but im missing alot of the main things that should come with kubuntu including adapt,i mean i could use apt-get to install each one individually butt that would take a while and im not even sure aboute everything im missing
[03:17] <fuzzy_logic> scion: hello
[03:17] <WaxyFresh> is there some package i missed?
[03:18] <scion> WaxyFresh: why not just download the kubuntu .iso//
[03:18] <fuzzy_logic> are you sure u installed everything when installing Ubuntu, WaxyFresh?/
[03:18] <WaxyFresh> scion: my laptop just b roke and am on an old computer so no dvd/cd burner
[03:18] <scion> ahh
[03:19] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: just the ubuntu server then kubuntu-desktop then i upgraded
[03:19] <scion> WaxyFresh i'd imagine you will need to apt-get the packages you need
[03:20] <fuzzy_logic> or maybe there is a way to install the missing things from the cd.. or didn't you burn one?
[03:20] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: i have a 5.10 ubuntu cd
[03:20] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: so no
[03:21] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: then i think you will need to apt-get the missing packages
[03:26] <aaroncampbell_> I had asked about kopete vs gaim in here last night.  Seeps like most preferred kopete.  Does kopete keep logs of ims?
[03:27] <ionus> !ntfs
[03:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:28] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says i have 371 broken packages,,,,will fre 471mbs.......how can i fix this?
[03:29] <dennis_> aaroncampbell_, yes you can see the history
[03:29] <dennis_> but you have to set the function on
[03:30] <dennis_> i don't like kopete too much, i prefer gaim, but i like kde so i use kopete
[03:30] <aaroncampbell_> I didn't even see an option for it
[03:32] <dennis_> you have to activate the plugin
[03:32] <michaelpo> how do i export emails from evolution to thunderbird?
[03:32] <WaxyFresh> gaim is the best in my book,it has several encyptoin plugins
[03:33] <dennis_> so settings, configure plugin and then select history
[03:33] <aaroncampbell_> dennis...got it, I was looking in the wrong place.  However, it looks like it's already active...how can I actually see the history?
[03:34] <fuzzy_logic> michaelpo: did you try to start thunderbird, because it should ask by itself if you want to export the mails
[03:34] <dennis_> just click ok, and then you have to right click someone on your list...i know its strange
[03:34] <dennis_> then it will work
[03:34] <odin-arg> whats it mean is adept says "BREAK (install)"
[03:34] <odin-arg> rather than just install
[03:35] <fuzzy_logic> how do i disable sounds at opening and closing windows in kde?
[03:35] <_Johny> I'm looking for something to edit ID tags in mp3 files. Anyone knows?
[03:36] <_Johny> fuzzy_logic: System settings --> Sound--> Disable all sounds
[03:36] <dennis_> aaroncampbell_ although its already active, you have to press ok
[03:36] <michaelpo> fuzzy_logic: yes... but there is no option to chose evolution format mail
[03:37] <dennis_> it's a bug, kopete history plugin is enabled but nonfunctional
[03:37] <aaroncampbell_> dennis_: ok, I did that (even though it was active before I opened the plugins section), but I still don't see anything in the right click of any of my contacts.
[03:37] <reagleBRKLN> does this url crash your konq 3.5.6? http://www.virtualization.info/
[03:37] <fuzzy_logic> _Johny: thanks ill try that
[03:38] <aaroncampbell_> dennis...I had to disable, and re-enable it
[03:38] <fuzzy_logic> michaelpo: maybe this will help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-export-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html
[03:38] <dennis_> aaroncampbell_ try this,enable it, it must be unchecked and the settings applied, then reactivated.
[03:38] <dennis_> yep, just red it, its a bug
[03:38] <michaelpo> fuzzy_logic: thanks...
[03:39] <fuzzy_logic> michaelpo: no probs :)
[03:39] <Iwonder|too> where does apt/adept keep the files it downloads?
[03:40] <donhack> jeor que dificil es esto del kubuntu
[03:40] <fuzzy_logic> Iwonter|too: i think in the tmp folder.. not sure dough :)
[03:40] <donhack> y tos el  ingles
[03:40] <donhack> :P
[03:40] <aaroncampbell_> dennis_: found another bug...
[03:41] <aaroncampbell_> dennis_: At least for me, I can't change users from inside the history window...I have to close it, and re-open by right clicking another user
[03:42] <ionus> !nvidia
[03:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:43] <aaroncampbell_> how can I browse a windows network, or access a windows share?
[03:43] <fuzzy_logic> http://www.samba.org/ :)
[03:44] <fuzzy_logic> aaroncampbell_: my last msg was for you :)
[03:44] <aaroncampbell_> really, I've used samba to share files from linux, but never to access them on windows
[03:44] <aaroncampbell_> or...rather never used it to let a linux box get windows files from a windows box
[03:45] <dennis_> bizarre
[03:47] <fuzzy_logic> aaroncampbell_: oh, then i'm afraid i can't help you.. sorry :(
[03:48] <prugo> hi
[03:48] <prugo> can anyone help me?
[03:48] <prugo> I've installed kubuntu successfully
[03:48] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: ask the question.. dont ask to ask :)
[03:48] <prugo> but when it get's to the screen where you have to insert your username and pass
[03:48] <prugo> it gets blocked
[03:48] <prugo> and I have to restart
[03:48] <prugo> this happens with kubuntu 6.10 and ubuntu
[03:48] <prugo> any ideas?
[03:49] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: after you reboot you can log in normally?
[03:49] <prugo> no
[03:49] <user_> hi
[03:49] <prugo> it crashes again
[03:50] <prugo> and when I reboot the computer doesn't respond, I have to unplug it and lug it again
[03:50] <prugo> plug*
[03:50] <user_> hi
[03:50] <prugo> hi m8
[03:50] <prugo> it's very weird
[03:50] <prugo> :S
[03:50] <user_> what's up?
[03:50] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: it seems to me you have more a hardware problem than a software problem :)
[03:51] <fuzzy_logic> user_: hi :)
[03:51] <prugo> tha'ts what I thought so
[03:51] <prugo> so
[03:51] <prugo> thank you anyways
[03:51] <prugo> :)
[03:51] <prugo> I'll call the shop where I bought it
[03:51] <prugo> and c what they can do
[03:51] <prugo> thx
[03:51] <valuedcustomer> on kubuntu 6.10, how do i format external firewire drive so that both kubuntu and winxp can read and write?
[03:51] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: i think it's the cooler
[03:51] <prugo> which one?
[03:51] <prugo> GPU, CPU?
[03:51] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: i would do that.. yes
[03:52] <prugo> Motherboard cooler?
[03:52] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone know where to put feedback about https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade ?
[03:52] <WaxyFresh> what package is adapt in?
[03:52] <chijin> valuedcustomer: winxp can read ext3 and ubuntu can read ntfs, so it's your choice
[03:52] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: ehh.. well.. can be any, but if your computer freezes a lot, i guess it could be the motherboard one.. or that your motherboard itself is broken
[03:53] <fuzzy_logic> prugo: but commonly it is something with the motherboard
[03:53] <jpwhiting> I got it to work, but not with adept instructions, adding ~jriddell from adept seems broken for some reason
[03:53] <prugo> I got win XP too and it doesn't happen
[03:53] <prugo> ah ok
[03:53] <prugo> I'll check my MB
[03:53] <prugo> it's still in guaranty
[03:53] <prugo> so I might have it changed
[03:53] <valuedcustomer> @chijin, kubuntu won't let me delete files from ntfs and write new ones
[03:53] <prugo> warranty*
[03:53] <chijin> valuedcustomer: you need ntfs-3g for that
[03:53] <prugo> thx fellas
[03:54] <prugo> cya around
[03:54] <prugo> :)
[03:54] <prugo> bye
[03:54] <fuzzy_logic> lol
[03:54] <chijin> valuedcustomer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[03:54] <valuedcustomer> chijin: thanks, i'll try it
[03:56] <ionus> !wine
[03:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:57] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:58] <fuzzy_logic> BluesKaj: hi
[04:01] <piovisqui> hey
[04:01] <piovisqui> anyone here
[04:02] <fuzzy_logic> ye me :)
[04:02] <fuzzy_logic> hi
[04:02] <piovisqui> i need help with kubuntu
[04:02] <fuzzy_logic> i'm a beginner, but maybe i can help :)
[04:02] <piovisqui> fuzzy_logic: like you see i am connected to the internet but i can not browse any site
[04:02] <piovisqui> apt-get works and irc client too, but konqueror does not..
[04:03] <ionus> !wine
[04:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:03] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open for writing permission denied how do i fix this?
[04:03] <shinigami> hi what's the program for kubuntu to watch tv from my tv card?
[04:03] <fuzzy_logic> piovisqui: then i think your dns is not configured good
[04:04] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: what tv card do you have?
[04:04] <piovisqui> i am at university
[04:04] <shinigami> 02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[04:04] <piovisqui> using wifi
[04:04] <sb9> is it possible to install apache as user ?
[04:04] <shinigami> !tv
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <shinigami> !saa7134
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saa7134 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <sb9> instead of root
[04:05] <fuzzy_logic> sb9: it's not possible to install anything without admin rights :)
[04:05] <sb9> ?
[04:05] <Chousuke> sb9: it is.
[04:05] <Chousuke> not through apt though :/
[04:05] <sb9> i wnat to do it from the sources
[04:05] <Chousuke> you need to compile and install in your home directory.
[04:05] <piovisqui> fuzzy_logic: i finished download firefox and it works... konqueror is bugged
[04:05] <shinigami> what apps can watch tv with my tv card?
[04:06] <Chousuke> and you can't run it on port 80 as a user.
[04:06] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: you can try to type this in your terminal: sudo apt-get install tvtime
[04:06] <sb9> so i have take some port above  2048 or so ?
[04:06] <Chousuke> you need to be root to bind to ports lower than 1025
[04:06] <fuzzy_logic> it will install a program called tvtime wich looks to me like the best solution
[04:07] <sb9> ok, i got it
[04:07] <shinigami> tvtime
[04:07] <shinigami> ok
[04:07] <kothz> Anyone else have an issue with 7.04 where adept fails on updating packages right out of the box?  Network is fine, name resolution works great...
[04:07] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: never tried it, got the information right from the internet
[04:07] <fuzzy_logic> \
[04:09] <kothz> hrm, come to think of it, I wasn't asked for my password when i started the tool
[04:12] <Erky> Pardon me for intruding.  Just learning the ropes.
[04:13] <WaxyFresh> ho9w do i change permissions on E:\home\r00t\.aptitude to reead write ex?
[04:13] <coty> what is the command for editing sources.list
[04:13] <Ace2016> WaxyFresh: there is a convo about permissions going on in #ubuntu now
[04:15] <fuzzy_logic> coty: sudo kedit sources.list :)
[04:15] <coty> thanks
[04:15] <Jucato> kedit isn't installed by default
[04:15] <coty> fuzzy_logic: it did not work
[04:16] <Jucato> coty: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:16] <coty> ok
[04:16] <Jucato> coty, fuzzy_logic: 1) kedit isn't installed by default. 2) use kdesu when launching GUI apps w/ root privileges
[04:16] <coty> thanks you helped me get one step  closer to having beryl
[04:17] <Jucato> :O
[04:17] <Jucato> oh no what have I done!!!!!
[04:17] <Ultima> Hey
[04:17] <coty> jucato: what
[04:17] <fuzzy_logic> Jucato: oops.. i only used kde on fedora core.. didn't know that it wasn't installed by default in kubuntu
[04:17] <Ultima> I Need to resize my NTFS partition
[04:17] <Jucato> coty: indirectly helped someone install beryl!! :O
[04:18] <coty> ok
[04:18] <fuzzy_logic> Jucato: lol!
[04:18] <coty> can he help me
[04:18] <Ultima> But when trying I have denied access, I also have one bad sector when resizing on QTParted
[04:18] <Jucato> coty: I was referring to you....
[04:18] <fuzzy_logic> Jucato: what's the problem with beryl?
[04:18] <coty> oh
[04:19] <Jucato> fuzzy_logic: nothing. it was a futile attempt at humor
[04:19] <Ultima> If I just select the hard-drive will it keep WIndows?
[04:19] <odin-arg> coty: u have gfx accel with your intel card now?
[04:19] <coty> no
[04:19] <eagles0513875> kdfj
[04:19] <Ultima> Can someone please help
[04:20] <Ultima> If I select Guided - use entire disk, will I Keep windows?
[04:20] <coty> Ultima: what do you need help wiht
[04:20] <coty> ultima: no
[04:20] <Ultima> coty: I need someway to resize my partition
[04:20] <coty> Ultima: partion it
[04:20] <Ultima> coty: Magic Partition can though its payed software
[04:20] <Ultima> SInce WIndows is hogging all the space on new computers :(
[04:21] <BluesKaj> Partition magic is dangerous and unstable ...I don't recommend it
[04:21] <coty> ultima: when your in the install menu it will have a step for partionine
[04:21] <Ultima> How?
[04:21] <Ultima> I'm on the new beta
[04:21] <eagles0513875> qtparted
[04:21] <Ultima> I did
[04:21] <coty> ultima: go through the steps
[04:21] <Ultima> It says my NTFS has a bad sector
[04:21] <eagles0513875> run check disk in windows before doing that
[04:21] <Ultima> I did
[04:22] <smile> hi
[04:22] <fuzzy_logic> smile: hi
[04:22] <coty> ultima: i wiped out windows
[04:22] <Ultima> I really don't want WIndows though my brother needs it for the sims "sigh"
[04:22] <coty> ultima: its not in my oppion worth keeping
[04:22] <tux> just break the Sims CD :D
[04:22] <coty> ultima: you can have sims
[04:22] <Ultima> 2?
[04:22] <Ultima> WIll it run?
[04:23] <coty> ultima: use the win emulater for linux
[04:23] <tux> if you try crossover
[04:23] <Ultima> Does the win emulator emulate WoW?
[04:23] <tux> you can install windows applications on linux with crossover
[04:23] <Jucato> !wine
[04:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:23] <odin-arg> Ultima, Sims 1 or 2?
[04:23] <tux> ubotu, how about crossover
[04:23] <coty> Ultima: if you dont want win then get rid of it
[04:23] <Ultima> SIms 2
[04:23] <odin-arg> damn
[04:23] <odin-arg> WINE can run the first one
[04:23] <odin-arg> :p
[04:24] <fuzzy_logic> tux: ubotu is a bot, you can't talk to it :)
[04:24] <Ultima> Can Cedega run 2?
[04:24] <coty> Ultima; tell your bro to get a psp and get the game for it
[04:24] <tux> d'oh
[04:24] <Ultima> Except.....Teh PSP version isn't that good
[04:24] <tux> or why dont you use crossover
[04:24] <Ultima> And We have all the expansions.
[04:24] <Ultima> How does it work?
[04:24] <tux> i'l check if it's compatible
[04:25] <Ultima> The Sims 2 could run on my laptop probably
[04:25] <tux> i know crossover supports installing WoW on linux
[04:25] <Ultima> I Know xD
[04:25] <Ultima> I Have WoW
[04:25] <Ultima> Does it support TBC?
[04:25] <tux> TBC?
[04:25] <eagles0513875> tbc
[04:25] <Ultima> The Burning Crusade(Expansion)
[04:26] <tux> dont know
[04:26] <smile> how can i play sound file in konqueror ,just by mouse (without click) ?
[04:26] <tux> but you can also install unsupported software
[04:26] <Ultima> It still runs WoW.exe
[04:26] <tux> so i think it will work
[04:26] <ionus> !rar
[04:26] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:26] <Ultima> Just adds some more  stuff in
[04:26] <eagles0513875> lol what bout it ultima
[04:26] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude didint work
[04:26] <WaxyFresh> why do i get a line thru that?
[04:26] <tux> i dont trust wine for running games, to slow
[04:27] <Ultima> What about Cedega?
[04:27] <Ultima> my friend has a copy
[04:27] <eagles0513875> cedega u have a yearly fee
[04:27] <Ultima> Damnz.
[04:27] <eagles0513875> ive been able to get it to work on WoW
[04:27] <eagles0513875> *wine
[04:27] <eagles0513875> download wine ultima
[04:27] <eagles0513875> its free
[04:27] <tux> noooooo crossover supports installing Internet Explorer in linux, who in the world wants that
[04:27] <fuzzy_logic> ehh.. me?
[04:28] <eagles0513875> lol i do lol
[04:28] <Ultima> Firefox or Opera plz
[04:28] <tdn> tux, web developers?
[04:28] <odin-arg> ff
[04:28] <eagles0513875> fuzzy download ie4linux
[04:28] <Ultima> You can get Firefox to support Active X
[04:28] <tdn> I cannot log in to KDE using KDM. /var/log/kdm.log is here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/tmp/kdm.log. I have tried logging in to a "failsafe" session. That didn't help either.  Please help me, I have no more ideas of how to investigate this problem :(
[04:28] <tux> hm that's anoying but true tdn
[04:28] <Ultima> Though it opens a secruity hole
[04:28] <tux> you have to check if it works on IE
[04:28] <Znuff> Hello. What's the name of the wizard that runs first time when you start kubuntu or kde
[04:28] <Znuff> that was a question: '?' :)
[04:29] <tux> znuff, you can find it by removing and reinstalling KDE...
[04:29] <fuzzy_logic> kpersonaliser :)
[04:29] <tux> just kiddin
[04:29] <Znuff> I just installed it :-)
[04:29] <fuzzy_logic> lol @ tux
[04:29] <Znuff> great
[04:29] <fuzzy_logic> eagles i alrady have ie running :)
[04:30] <Znuff> uhm, what if that's missing? :-/
[04:30] <Znuff> Was kpersonaliser included only in 6.04?!
[04:30] <eagles0513875> ok fuzzy u haveing problems with active x
[04:31] <eagles0513875> if thats the case u have to set ur security ur security to low
[04:31] <Znuff> at least there's kxdocker -_-
[04:31] <fuzzy_logic> Znuff: kpersonaliser is included in every kubuntu release.. you can probably install it again by typing sudo apt-get install kpersonaliser in your terminal
[04:31] <Ultima> Just wondering, Whats a good program for windows for resizing paritions that free and easy like Magic Partition
[04:32] <Znuff> fuzzy_logic, funny thing: it came up empty :)
[04:32] <fuzzy_logic> Ultima: don't use windows programs for that.. just burn a gparted livecd for that
[04:32] <Znuff> oh, it's kpersonaliZer :)
[04:32] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,"sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude" didint work
[04:32] <fuzzy_logic> oh.. oops.. my english is not always perfect Znuff, lol
[04:33] <Znuff> actually personaliser is the right way to spell it, I think :P
[04:33] <Ultima> OK
[04:33] <shinigami>  to chmod it,"sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude" didint
[04:33] <shinigami> why does my tvtime got no sound?
[04:33] <Ultima> Gonna get GParted?
[04:33] <Jucato> Znuff, fuzzy_logic: actually, kpersonalizer is not installed by default
[04:33] <Ultima> Is it safe?
[04:33] <WaxyFresh> shinigami: ?
[04:34] <Ultima> GOnna get GParted, bye.
[04:34] <eagles0513875> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:34] <eagles0513875> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:34] <eagles0513875> how do i unlock it
[04:34] <fuzzy_logic> oh :) haha.. didn't know that.. i just installed all the packages, so it popped up at the first time for me
[04:34] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 just wait, mine just did that
[04:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:34] <eagles0513875> ok just fyi feisty beta is what im on
[04:34] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: just a sec. i will investigate
[04:34] <shinigami> i'm using 02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) what's the best apps to watch tv? i'm using tvtime
[04:34] <FringeJacket> serioiusly, if you wait it goes away
[04:35] <Jucato> !adeptfix | eagles0513875
[04:35] <ubotu> eagles0513875: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:35] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami what sound card do you have? do you hear other sounds?
[04:35] <shinigami> yeah i can listen to amarok
[04:36] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami what sound card do you have?
[04:36] <eagles0513875> already tried that jucato
[04:36] <eagles0513875> no effect
[04:36] <shinigami> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:36] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, how was fiesty beta in terms of hardware recognition ? All your stuff working ?
[04:37] <eagles0513875> everything except my internal wifi
[04:37] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 it did that to me all night then this morning, about three minutes ago it let me
[04:37] <eagles0513875> what u mean fringe
[04:37] <BluesKaj> are you on a LAN ?
[04:37] <eagles0513875> no wifi
[04:37] <eagles0513875> that is what makes me really mad
[04:38] <eagles0513875> that is the only reason i upgraded to the beta
[04:38] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 it gave me that exact message all night no matter what I did
[04:38] <FringeJacket> what wifi card do you have?
[04:38] <ionus> plese help me to write in ntfs partitions
[04:38] <eagles0513875> broadcom 43xx series
[04:38] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: i'm afraid i can't help you with this one.. sorry
[04:38] <eagles0513875> ionus download ntfs3g and let me know when its installed
[04:38] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, was the wifi working in the previous version of Kubuntu ?
[04:38] <eagles0513875> no only pcmcia
[04:39] <eagles0513875> i would have to do some serious programming to get it to work
[04:39] <eagles0513875> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:39] <eagles0513875> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:39] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 broadcom doesn't like linux, one sec, I'll see if I can look up how I fixed it
[04:39] <eagles0513875> any other ideas
[04:39] <ionus> eagles0513875  i do that but a cant run ntfs config tools from K menu
[04:39] <ionus> :(
[04:39] <eagles0513875> u have to go into the fstab and edit one thing
[04:39] <eagles0513875> i know but i used windows drivers and ndiswrapper
[04:39] <ionus> how
[04:40] <ionus> ?
[04:40] <tigre> hola
[04:40] <fuzzy_logic> hi tigre
[04:40] <ionus> hey plese help me
[04:41] <eagles0513875> ionus add -3g to the ntfs entry save it unmount it then remount it
[04:41] <fuzzy_logic> ionus: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:41] <shinigami> ok thanks
[04:41] <ionus> how
[04:41] <eagles0513875> u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[04:41] <eagles0513875> wait
[04:41] <eagles0513875> nm answered my own ?
[04:41] <hansen> ok, stupid question, but I really can't find them: Which package has the opengl man pages?
[04:41] <ionus> am 2nd day on ubuntu
[04:41] <ionus> kubuntu
[04:42] <eagles0513875> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <eagles0513875> use that command
[04:42] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:42] <eagles0513875> or that
[04:42] <lzzc> how install new openoffice 2.2 on kubuntu edgy?
[04:42] <ionus> ok
[04:42] <eagles0513875> is it open
[04:42] <ionus> yes
[04:42] <eagles0513875> ok u see where it says ntfs
[04:42] <ionus> where
[04:43] <WaxyFresh> how do i uninstall aptitude?
[04:43] <eagles0513875> wait
[04:43] <eagles0513875> close that
[04:43] <ionus> no it is nvidia
[04:43] <fuzzy_logic> lzzc: just with the openoffice updater?
[04:43] <chode> X11?? for ntfs ????????
[04:43] <eagles0513875> my mistake hold on
[04:43] <ionus> ok
[04:43] <tigre> 00+............0
[04:43] <lzzc> WaxyFresh: ==> "apt-get remove --purge aptitude"
[04:43] <Znuff> now, how do you remove a panel?!
[04:43] <eagles0513875> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[04:44] <eagles0513875> use that ionus
[04:44] <ionus> yes
[04:44] <ionus> file sistem
[04:44] <lzzc> fuzzy_logic: didn't know there was an oo updater !  where, how?
[04:44] <eagles0513875> u see ntfs
[04:44] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 I've almost got that file tracked down for configuring broadcom wireless cards
[04:44] <eagles0513875> ty fringe
[04:44] <eagles0513875> even if its a wiki ill take it
[04:44] <ionus> ?
[04:44] <eagles0513875> do u see ntfs in the list of partitions
[04:44] <WaxyFresh> lzzc:
[04:44] <eagles0513875> in the fstab
[04:44] <WaxyFresh> lzzc: thanks
[04:44] <ionus> wait
[04:44] <fuzzy_logic> i think i saw once one.. i don't use oo.. but wait ill look
[04:44] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:44] <FringeJacket> no, this is not wiki, its ubuntu forums
[04:45] <ionus> yes i se
[04:45] <eagles0513875> ok now add this
[04:45] <eagles0513875> -3g
[04:45] <ionus> where
[04:45] <ionus> ?
[04:45] <eagles0513875> after ntfs
[04:45] <ionus> ok
[04:45] <ionus> wait
[04:45] <eagles0513875> ok
[04:45] <leopartux> hi
[04:45] <ionus> ? /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g  ?
[04:45] <fuzzy_logic> hi leopartux
[04:46] <ionus> yes?
[04:46] <leopartux> how can i change the default logout screen
[04:46] <ionus> ? /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g  ?
[04:46] <eagles0513875> dont change anything else
[04:46] <fuzzy_logic> lzzc: i'm sorry.. i can't find it
[04:46] <ionus> ok
[04:46] <ionus> and save
[04:46] <ionus> ?
[04:46] <eagles0513875> just add the -3g to the ntfs ionius
[04:46] <eagles0513875> yes
[04:46] <fuzzy_logic> maybe you can try typing this in your terminal: apt-get update
[04:46] <eagles0513875> then unmount that partition and then remount it
[04:46] <fuzzy_logic> than it updates all your software, including oo
[04:46] <ionus> how to mount ?
[04:46] <Znuff> Anyone have an idea how do you remove a panel in KDE?
[04:46] <Znuff> I want to remove the bottom pannel
[04:46] <ionus> tell me comand
[04:46] <ionus> ?
[04:47] <eagles0513875> sudo mount /media/(name of partition)
[04:47] <eagles0513875> and to unmount
[04:47] <eagles0513875> sudo umount /media/(name of partition)
[04:47] <lzzc> fuzzy_logic: nope. it's not in the deb repositories yet.  it's a fresh, steaming pile of shit just pinch off over at openoffice.org
[04:47] <ionus> wait
[04:47] <leopartux> Znuff: just right click and remove panel
[04:47] <Znuff> it's greyed out
[04:48] <Znuff> it's the basic panel :-/
[04:48] <eagles0513875> ok let me know if it worked ionus
[04:48] <ionus> give example of partition name
[04:48] <ionus> ?
[04:48] <FringeJacket> eagles0513875 I've narowed it down to three, and figuring it out from there (the wireless I'm on is being slow)
[04:48] <leopartux> you can kill it :)
[04:48] <eagles0513875> its ok dude take ur time
[04:48] <eagles0513875> i need to restart my x anyway fringe ill be back asap
[04:49] <FringeJacket> kk
[04:49] <eagles0513875> hda1 for ex ionus
[04:49] <eagles0513875> brb ionus
[04:49] <ionus> ok
[04:49] <fuzzy_logic> lzzc: i think its wise to wait until kubuntu starts to support it.. don't you think? it's good to install as much software as possible with the apt-get, because than when the system is updating it updates really every peace of software u have installed and you don't have to do it yourself
[04:49] <shinigami> hey which is my sound card? /dev/mixer or mixer1 ? or /dev/audio or audio1 ?
[04:49] <FringeJacket> I love that our secondary network is faster right now
[04:50] <fuzzy_logic> shinigami: i think it is /dev/audio.. not 100% sure but i would go for that one
[04:50] <leopartux> how can i change logout screen
[04:50] <shinigami> how do i know and how to find out
[04:51] <ionus> WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected.
[04:51] <lzzc> fuzzy_logic: yeah, okay, whatever
[04:51] <ionus> what it is
[04:51] <ionus> ?
[04:51] <kuwanger> I'm having a small problem.  For some reason at startup, the X display isn't being switched to.
[04:52] <ionus> WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected. Some driver features are
[04:52] <ionus>          not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and
[04:52] <ionus>          unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process
[04:52] <ionus>          naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. The safe FUSE kernel
[04:52] <ionus>          driver is included in the official Linux kernels since version
[04:52] <ionus>          2.6.20-rc1, or in the FUSE 2.6.0 or later software packages,
[04:52] <ionus>          except the faulty FUSE version 2.6.2. For more help, please
[04:52] <ionus>          have a look at /usr/share/doc/ntfs-3g/README.Debian. Thanks
[04:52] <Jucato> !pastebin | ionus
[04:52] <ubotu> ionus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:52] <ionus> eagles0513875> no its no work
[04:53] <FringeJacket> ah, hiding the join part makes this channel alot nicer
[04:53] <ionus> someone pleasa help me to write on ntfs partitions
[04:54] <ionus> ?
[04:54] <chode> ionus, ok.. hang on... meanwhile.. restore ur fstab the way it was b4
[04:54] <ionus> i dont understand
[04:55] <chode> ionus, didn;t u change ur fstab just now??
[04:55] <chode> i'm going to show u a very easy way
[04:55] <FringeJacket> ionus he's temporarily wrong
[04:55] <ionus> yes
[04:55] <FringeJacket> s/wrong/gone
[04:56] <FringeJacket> sorry, my friend said wrong while I was tying
[04:56] <ionus> i put -3g on end of the line
[04:56] <PasNox> hi
[04:56] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[04:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:56] <chode> ionus, so restore it
[04:56] <lzzc> Tip for improving ubuntu website appearance:  in firefox with adblock extension, right click and adblock all the images of the silly-insipid-smiley-shiny-happy-people.
[04:56] <ionus> how
[04:56] <chode> and tell me.. r u using Edgy??
[04:56] <ionus> ?
[04:56] <fuzzy_logic> hi PasNox
[04:56] <ionus> how to restore
[04:56] <PasNox> i have installed festy for testing, and update to date ( last update was xorg )
[04:56] <NSCAD_Nathan> what's the best program for expose like functionality in KDE?
[04:57] <PasNox> and now my nvidia driver crash the x server
[04:57] <PasNox> what i can do ?
[04:57] <chode> Jucato, he's very new.. so he needs step by step help
[04:57] <chode> ionus, just remove those "-3g" u added
[04:57] <ionus> yes i am new :)
[04:57] <NSCAD_Nathan> I tried kompose, but it didn't seem so great
[04:57] <Ultima> I'm back from GParted
[04:57] <ionus> ok wait
[04:57] <chode> so it will b the way it was b4 u chaned it
[04:57] <Ultima> It didn't work
[04:57] <Jucato> chode: I think those guides are step by step... but don't really know personally
[04:57] <PasNox> feisty*
[04:57] <ionus> i do that
[04:57] <ionus> ?
[04:58] <fuzzy_logic> aight.. i have to go.. bb people! good luck with ur probs
[04:58] <Ultima> According to GParted by partition has a bad sector
[04:58] <PasNox> fuzzy_logic: ++
[04:58] <Ultima> Is It possible to:
[04:58] <Ultima> 1.Install Kubuntu
 i restore it
[04:58] <WaxyFresh> will synaptic work with kubuntu
[04:58] <Ultima> Then
[04:58] <Ultima> 2,Install TinyXP
[04:58] <leopartux> Znuff: try to edit ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[04:58] <stevethepirate> hello all
[04:58] <chode> ionus, u have ubuntu or kubuntu ??
[04:58] <Ultima> stevethepirate: Hi
[04:58] <ionus> kubuntu
[04:58] <stevethepirate> will i need anti -viurs for linux.. ever?
[04:58] <ionus> 6.10
[04:59] <chode> ok edgy right?
[04:59] <chode> ok wait
[04:59] <FringeJacket> stevethepirate  hi
[04:59] <Ultima> stevethepirate: Probably not.
[04:59] <stevethepirate> ahh
[04:59] <stevethepirate> this is now through my pc.. as opposed to cellphone!!
[04:59] <ionus> stept by step from the begining please
[04:59] <stevethepirate> the wonders of tunnelling, l33t hackin and irssi
[04:59] <Ultima> stevethepirate: A antivirus for Windows/Car is doors/antivirus Linux/Motorbike doesn't have Doors/Antivirus
[04:59] <FringeJacket> stevethepirate yay! I still have cellphone at home, I understand your joy
[05:00] <stevethepirate> lol
[05:00] <stevethepirate> its painfull. . and i'm in RSA.. so its lank slow... like 4 sec delay.
[05:00] <Ultima> GUys
 are u here?
[05:00] <chode> ionus, "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:00] <Ultima> Can I install Kubuntu then Windows?
[05:01] <ionus> type it in terminal
[05:01] <chode> Ultima, install windows first
[05:01] <FringeJacket> Ultima why would you want to do that?
[05:01] <Ultima> I have WIndows
[05:01] <stevethepirate> i have superakaramba... and it says i'm using 1900 megs of my ram.. but i don't believe it...
[05:01] <Ultima> Its just my partition is taking all and it has a bad sector
[05:01] <hansen> Ultima: if you installed linux first and then windows, you will have to restore the master boot record to get access to linux again
[05:01] <ionus> chode i do that
[05:01] <FringeJacket> I have windows xp and kubuntu on mine Ultima
[05:01] <PasNox> problem: no nvidia driver working since 7.04beta feisty install then xorg updaet
[05:01] <stevethepirate> how can i check?
[05:01] <ionus> next step
[05:01] <chode> ionus, did u get a file open in kate wich has a bunch of lines?
[05:01] <Ultima> I have windows
[05:01] <Ultima> I Just can't resize my partition
[05:02] <ionus> yea
[05:02] <Ultima> SInce WIndows denies
[05:02] <ionus> yes
[05:02] <Ultima> And its hogging all partition space except 7mb
[05:02] <FringeJacket> Ultima have you restarted windows and let it properly shut down?
[05:02] <Ultima> I tryed GParted
[05:02] <hansen> stevethepirate: I have that too -- in Parallels Desktop on my macbook :)
[05:02] <Ultima> Same problem
[05:02] <ionus> chode  isee sources.list- kate
[05:02] <stevethepirate> lol
[05:02] <stevethepirate> how can  i check how much free ram i have free???
[05:03] <hansen> free ram is wasted ram...
[05:03] <FringeJacket> Ultima how much space is taken up by windows? (including games and files)
[05:03] <chode> ionus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12957/     <--------  now open this link and add what u see there in the end of the list
[05:03] <Ultima> About 60GB
[05:03] <Chousuke> stevethepirate: top and free show some statistics
[05:03] <stevethepirate> well.. nonetheless, id like to see how much of it is free.
[05:03] <Ultima> I Have a 130gb Hard-drive
[05:04] <ionus>  http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[05:04] <ionus> deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[05:04] <chode> ionus,  "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"
[05:04] <chode> yes those 3 lines
[05:04] <ionus>  yes it is
[05:04] <FringeJacket> Ultima thats whats actuallyused? not the partition size?
[05:04] <chode> ionus, done ??
[05:04] <Ultima> yes
[05:04] <Ultima> The partition size is 131gb
[05:04] <ionus>  1  liniies deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[05:05] <Ultima> And I Have 7mb free
[05:05] <Ultima> (partition)
[05:05] <ionus> 2 linie deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all
[05:05] <chode> ionus, "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"
[05:05] <chode> not with 1 2 3
[05:05] <hansen> Ultima: which app do you use for resizeing the partition?
[05:05] <stevethepirate> it says i have 60 megs free ram.. and 650Megs in buffers...  but that my swap is nearly empty...
[05:05] <ionus> e see this linie
[05:05] <Ultima> GParted\
[05:05] <FringeJacket> Ultima you tried repartitioning from the live cd?
[05:05] <ionus> !!
[05:05] <Ultima> DIdn't work
[05:05] <kuwanger> Free ram is ram from the skies.
[05:05] <stevethepirate> hansen: i use paragon partition manaher myself.. on hirens boot disk..
[05:05] <WaxyFresh> i only have 98 megabites left on my hd any ideas to clear up space?
[05:05] <Ultima> Access denied from partition
[05:05] <Ultima> Remove stuff you don't use
[05:05] <chode> ionus, pvt
[05:06] <hansen> Ultima: try defragmenting the windows partition first
[05:06] <Ultima> and will just stay there
[05:06] <Ultima> I Have.
[05:06] <Ultima> I just want to use Kubuntu
[05:06] <Ultima> It really annoys mew
[05:06] <kuwanger> WaxyFresh: Delete all your kitten images?
[05:06] <Ultima> me*
[05:06] <stevethepirate> so it it bad that i only have 60 megs free ram???
[05:06] <FringeJacket> WaxyFresh move all music and picture to cds
[05:06] <Ultima> no not really.
[05:06] <chode> ionus, check ur prvt chat window
[05:06] <hansen> Partition Manager has worked well for me in the past
[05:07] <WaxyFresh> kuwanger: kittens?
[05:07] <kuwanger> WaxyFresh: That's what I'm calling it.
[05:07] <ionus> u have yahoo id?
[05:07] <Ultima> Is there a free Magic Partition for Windows?
[05:07] <stevethepirate> Ultima: was that at me about the "no not reaaally"?
[05:07] <WaxyFresh> im trying to remove open office.org but i keep getting unresovled dependances that wont clear up
[05:07] <ionus> chode ? do u have yahoo id
[05:07] <ionus> tel me
[05:07] <ionus> ?
[05:07] <chode> ionus, no
[05:07] <ionus> ok
[05:07] <hansen> Vista can shrink ntfs partitions non-destructively, so no need for 3rd. party tools for that
[05:07] <WaxyFresh> kuwanger: i have no music/pics
[05:08] <Ultima> I don't have VIsta
[05:08] <kuwanger> Is there any reason why the virtual console wouldn't switch at computer startup?  It isn't for me.
[05:08] <Ultima> And I don't feel like torrenting it just  to change partition
[05:08] <chode> ionus, ok... u have the source list still open??
[05:08] <kuwanger> WaxyFresh: That's a shame.
[05:08] <ionus> how i can sent privete msg
[05:08] <FringeJacket> WaxyFresh what is taking up all your space then
[05:08] <ionus> yes
[05:08] <ionus> ?
[05:08] <Falgor> my friend needs to know what the password and username for the beta 7.04 live cd are. Anyone know?
[05:08] <WaxyFresh> ive only got like 4 gigs i think,my laptop broke and am froced to use a old computer
[05:08] <chode> ionus, u don;t need to add those 1 2 3
[05:08] <ionus> yes
[05:08] <Falgor> for some reason it's not letting him pass
[05:08] <kuwanger> WaxyFresh: Well, that's life then.
[05:09] <chode> just add what i tell u in thu netween quotes
[05:09] <WaxyFresh> FringeJacket: should dapper+ automatix take up 4 gigs?
[05:09] <FringeJacket> WaxyFresh its a deal with it kinda situation
[05:09] <chode> ionus,  "deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"
[05:09] <kuwanger> Though I am still sort of waiting for the day that one of the fuse compression layers is used.
[05:09] <chode> ionus, "deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"
[05:09] <FringeJacket> WaxyFresh I don't know much about dapper, I started with edgy
[05:09] <ionus> but i have it
[05:09] <chode> ionus, "deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all"
[05:09] <Falgor> My friend needs to know what the password and username for the beta 7.04 live cd are. Anyone know? *_*
[05:09] <chode> just those 3 lines
[05:10] <Ultima> Falgor> There isn't one, I'm using it right now.
[05:10] <chode> ionus, there is no preceding 1, 2 , 3
[05:10] <Ultima> Falgor>Tryed Ubuntu then Ubuntu
[05:10] <ionus> ok i do that
[05:10] <eagles0513875> im back
[05:10] <eagles0513875> did it work ionus
[05:10] <eagles0513875> i broke feisty lol
[05:10] <chode> ionus, now save the file and exit it
[05:11] <ionus> no
[05:11] <FringeJacket> ok eagles0513875
[05:11] <ionus> ok
[05:11] <eagles0513875> :(ok
[05:11] <ionus> i do that