[10:42] <Spy4> need some help with HAL
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Right click the pariton, resize
[10:42] <louiespeaks> split it in half
[10:42] <Overand> pray
[10:42] <louiespeaks> and I am going to end up with a NTFS parition(windows) and unallocated space
[10:42] <louiespeaks> Correct?
[10:42] <Spy4> at boot i get the message  "failed to initialize hal"
[10:42] <Overand> yes, that's what you want to do
[10:42] <Spy4> how do i fix it?
[10:42] <louiespeaks> I am going to do it.
[10:42] <mathrick> larsemil: add "Keyboard indicator" (chances are it'll be named Tastaturindikator), what does it show?
[10:42] <Overand> louiespeaks: have fun, good luck
[10:42] <shinobi2> anyone know how the backspace key works?
[10:43] <mathrick> *add to panel
[10:43] <louiespeaks> Crossin' my fingers.
[10:43] <shinobi2> anyone know how the backspace key works? in vim?
[10:43] <Overand> shinobi2: it *should* just work
[10:43] <louiespeaks> II DIIIIID IT!
[10:43] <louiespeaks> GOO LOUIS GO LOUIS
[10:43] <louiespeaks> OOOH YEEAH
[10:43] <Spy4> hey
[10:44] <louiespeaks> It has yet to gone FUBAR.
[10:44] <elkbuntu> louiespeaks, calm down please
[10:44] <Spy4> some help fixing HAL
[10:44] <Spy4> anyone can help me?
[10:44] <Overand> Spy4: you can stop repeating.
[10:44] <louiespeaks> elkbuntu: I am calm bro. I am just an energetic dude.
[10:44] <louiespeaks> fighting optimistic
[10:44] <shinobi2> Overand: well, i think it has to do with the mode it's in.  when i open a file, i start typing and use backspace key it works, however, since this is a previously edited file, all other text that already there, will not work with backspace key
[10:44] <Spy4> overand none is answering nothing
[10:44] <Spy4> i will rwpwat
[10:44] <elkbuntu> louiespeaks, ok then, be enthusiastic quietly, with less shouting ;)
[10:45] <Overand> Spy4: then people will get more and more ticked at you and will eventually ignore you completely, if you don't get kicked.
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, where to add this?
[10:45] <Spy4> i thought none understood
[10:45] <louiespeaks> 34 gigs overkill for ubuntu?
[10:45] <Overand> Spy4: In all liklihood nobody knows what the problem is, or they're busy.
[10:45] <louiespeaks> 10 gigs probably be enough?
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, ah found it
[10:45] <mathrick> larsemil: right click on panel, "add to panel", find tastaturindikator (assuming that's in swedish)
[10:45] <mathrick> ok
[10:45] <Overand> In fact, I've never really heard of 'HAL' in the context of linux.
[10:45] <Spy4> overand there's no matter to get angry
[10:45] <Overand> HAL generally refers to 'hardware abstraction layer'
[10:45] <mjr> louiespeaks, sure Ubuntu will fit in 10, if you don't plan on storing a lot of data...
[10:45] <mathrick> larsemil: does it say "Swe" now?
[10:45] <larsemil> mathrick, tastatur is german but i found it and it says swe
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: but you can't type swedish?
[10:46] <louiespeaks> What the heck am I going to store other than music....
[10:46] <mathrick> louiespeaks: anime!
[10:46] <louiespeaks> Which I am going to work some magic on and read only ntfs
[10:46] <Overand> Spy4: did your machine have a windows install on it / does it dualboot to windows?
[10:46] <mathrick> *cough*
[10:46] <larsemil> when starting gnome i get an error msg saying something wrong with xkb, xmodmap or so..
[10:46] <louiespeaks> Hahha.
[10:46] <Overand> I don't know why you'd get a HAL error
[10:46] <Spy4> no only ubuntu
[10:46] <KenSentMe> I'm thinking about buying a multifunctional printer (print, fax, scan). Which brands have a good linux/ubuntu support?
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: aaa, that's what you should've began with
[10:46] <Spy4> me nor XD
[10:46] <louiespeaks> The ones supported by Linux.
[10:46] <mathrick> larsemil: that's always a bitch to debug
[10:46] <larsemil> mathrick, sorry. :)
[10:47] <adrian15> [OT]  Can anyone tell me which it is the language of this webpage... so that I find a translator: http://www.pikapolonica.net/?p=62   Czech? German? Polis?
[10:47] <mathrick> larsemil: if you make a new user account, does it work there?
[10:47] <mathieu> hi, how can i edit file associations in gnome?
[10:47] <noiesmo> KenSentMe, know someone with a hp6310 working perfectly
[10:47] <larsemil> mathrick, have not tried. should i?
[10:48] <mathrick> larsemil: yes
[10:48] <louiespeaks> yooooo
[10:48] <louiespeaks> what's the best filesystem to use?
[10:48] <robokop> which program should i run on my machine if i want to be able to remote login (with putty for example)
[10:48] <Overand> robokop: it's the sshd
[10:48] <noiesmo> robokop, ssh telnet
[10:48] <Overand> 'ssh server'
[10:48] <KenSentMe> noiesmo: ok, thank you
[10:49] <Overand> doesn't ubuntu ship with sshd enabled?
[10:49] <noiesmo> KenSentMe, i'll be getting one soon there network as well
[10:49] <louiespeaks> What filesystem is best for unbuntu and root?
[10:49] <Overand> louiespeaks: no 'best'
[10:49] <Overand> most common is ext3
[10:49] <louiespeaks> Well.
[10:49] <louiespeaks> I am going to use ext3 than.
[10:49] <Overand> I'd suggest that if you're going to dualboot
[10:49] <louiespeaks> Word.
[10:49] <mathrick> adrian15: Serbian / Croatian, maybe some other Balkan Slavic language
[10:49] <mathrick> not sure
[10:49] <Overand> partially because there are apps for windows that read ext3 like 'explore2fs'
[10:50] <mathrick> I can tell you it's not Polish (I'm Polish :), and also not Slovak/Czech
[10:50] <louiespeaks> Hmmmk.
[10:50] <KenSentMe> noiesmo: does pc-faxing work too?
[10:50] <keithhh1> anyone know how to install ati tv out
[10:50] <louiespeaks> alit I got three paritions now
[10:50] <louiespeaks> ntfs
[10:50] <louiespeaks> a 2 gig swap
[10:50] <louiespeaks> and the rest ext3
[10:50] <louiespeaks> time to move forward?
[10:51] <Overand> the country code that the domain is registered to is SI
[10:51] <mathrick> mneptok: so, before we trade our short-term memories, do you happen to know a line to insert into sources.list / whatever for upgrading to Edgy?
[10:51] <Overand> Slovenia
[10:52] <Overand> adrian15: the website is registered to someone in Slovenia
[10:52] <mathrick> ah, of course
[10:52] <mathrick> and it's almost surely Slovenian
[10:52] <amigamia> vpn is powerful thing
[10:52] <louiespeaks> *please don't screw up please don't screw up*
[10:52] <amigamia> it will shut you out
[10:52] <adrian15> mathrick: ubuntu-si does not exist :( Will try with debian-si then
[10:52] <mneptok> mathrick: lemme find the correct URLs for you.
[10:52] <adrian15> mathrick: Overand thank you
[10:53] <mneptok> mathrick: i know we have it documented somewhere internally, just need to find it.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> ll
[10:53] <wrabbit> what's the longest anybody here has had their pc running with ubuntu on it?
[10:53] <whitedeth> anyone know a good software for archives?
[10:53] <louiespeaks> lol* Houston, it is a noooooooo gooooo.
[10:53] <wrabbit> I mean uptime
[10:53] <whitedeth> Archive Manager sucks.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> Didn't work.
[10:53] <whitedeth> it keeps saying "archive type not supported" even though it clearly is.
[10:53] <louiespeaks> GREEEAAAT!
[10:53] <mathrick> mneptok: yeah, I know it's possible, I just don't feel like fighting with releases and pins today :)
[10:53] <louiespeaks> Parition magic is going to do the trick.
[10:54] <mathrick> louiespeaks: so it said "done" but didn't work?
[10:54] <mathrick> parted that is
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Nope.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> It said failed to move
[10:54] <larsemil> mathrick, still the same.
[10:54] <mneptok> mathrick: amen, brother.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Basically, it didn't do anything.
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Back to what it was before.
[10:54] <jeanmi3> I have ubuntu 6.06, kernel 2.6.15-25-386 and the 'tun' module loaded but when I try to ifconfig tun0 I am getting "tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[10:54] <louiespeaks> Someone upstairs must not want me to put linux on my hdd
[10:55] <mathrick> larsemil: then, uh, something is fucked and it's always nasty to debug. Honestly, I've never been able to figure that one out, XKB is not exactly an easy piece of software :\
[10:55] <suk4> hola
[10:55] <suk4> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:55] <whitedeth> !archive
[10:55] <larsemil> mathrick, but does it have anything to do with xorg.conf or is it something else?
[10:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <suk4> alguien habla espaol?
[10:56] <PsyOpsWarrior> Linux ooooh linux.
[10:56] <mneptok> mathrick: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[10:56] <whitedeth> Anyone know a good software for *.7Z?
[10:56] <adrian15> suk4: yo mism
[10:56] <cpk2> !es
[10:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:56] <suk4> hola adrian
[10:56] <cpk2> lo siento
[10:56] <PsyOpsWarrior> Been dibledabbling with it for years, never seem to have it on my computer for much longer than a month.
[10:56] <adrian15> suk4: pero se supone que te tienes que conectar al #ubuntu-es que para est
[10:57] <YBH_1> hmm i have the mplayer mozilla plug in installed and it works fine for quciktime and other audio video, but when a .WMV file is selected totem is th edefault player anyon eknow how to eliminate totem ?
[10:57] <whitedeth> !7zip
[10:57] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:57] <keithhh1> anyone have any tips how to use atitvout
[10:57] <Normal> Hey guys, I just(finally!) got Ubuntu installed(after having to use Breezy, then update, then...all sorts of workarounds)... I have a kernel that locks up(it has a 15 at the end), but I had one with 12 at the end as an option in GRUB..How do I remove the 15 one?
[10:58] <mneptok> Normal: what kind of processor do you have?
[10:58] <Normal> amd x2 4200
[10:58] <YBH_1> you don't need to remove it edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:58] <mneptok> Normal: you using i386 or AMD64?
[10:58] <mneptok> YBH_1: that is not recommended
[10:58] <Normal> I'm not using the 64-bit version, if thats what you mean.
[10:59] <mathrick> larsemil: possibly, try deleting (well, back it up) xorg.conf, then run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:59] <mathrick> mneptok: lemme try this
[11:00] <mneptok> Normal: you'll want to use Synaptic to install the latest K7 kernel image, and then use Synaptic to remove the other kernels and their modules.
[11:00] <Normal> How would I go about doing that?
[11:00] <Normal> Sorry, I'm new.. It took me four days to finally get this installed with a working X server
[11:01] <mathrick> mneptok: WHOA, "Upgrade distribution" button sure is shiny. A bit like star trek :)
[11:01] <mneptok> mathrick: "Please state the nature of the dist-upgrade emergency." ;)
[11:02] <Normal> And I was only able to do that from what little I learned while install Gentoo(which I got rid of, cause I couldn't get a gui in it[but I did minimally install it though!] )
[11:02] <mathrick> mneptok: :)
[11:02] <larsemil> mathrick, or atleast i start editing it manually. :)
[11:03] <boink> Normal: ubuntu is made with a different philosophy than Gentoo
[11:03] <boink> with Gentoo, you can learn a lot though
[11:03] <Normal> I know, and I looooove it!
[11:03] <mathrick> larsemil: that too, but I don't think you know which parts to poke, since I sure as hell don't, not without at least looking at it
[11:03] <Normal> Once I can get it to halfway work! :)
[11:04] <boink> FreeBSD is similar to Gentoo, but it's a real BSD system. Gentoo is the most BSD of any linux distro I know of
[11:05] <nekloksan> seek hyle!
[11:06] <Normal> I love Ubuntu, not Gentoo(I think what I previously wrote came out wrong)
[11:07] <mike_stern> how can i install the make
[11:07] <mike_stern> module
[11:07] <godfather> g'day guys
[11:07] <mike_stern> make install blabla
[11:07] <godfather> i have a problem with synaptic
[11:08] <godfather> when i try to make the update or install a new package it gives to me an error
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> I am outta here.
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> Peace
[11:08] <godfather> could anyone help me
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> One day I am going to get this jaunt installed.
[11:08] <PsyOpsWarrior> Until than, toodles.
[11:08] <mike_stern> godfather: you have gcc installeD?
[11:09] <mneptok> mike_stern: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:09] <mike_stern>  mneptok: thank yo
[11:10] <godfather> i don't remember
[11:11] <wrabbit^> boink, even moreso than slackware?
[11:11] <larsemil> mathrick, i solved it by xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se
[11:11] <boink> Slackware is painful since it's pkg management system is so horrible
[11:11] <boink> pkg_add .. it claims it works, then not everything is installed *duh*
[11:11] <wrabbit^> What does it use?
[11:11] <buzzy-> !ntp
[11:12] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 464 kB
[11:12] <wrabbit^> ah right
[11:12] <buzzy-> how do i sync my system clock?
[11:12] <boink> ntpdate
[11:12] <boink> ntpdate you.favourite.timeserver
[11:13] <buzzy-> !ntpdate
[11:13] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 43 kB, installed size 160 kB
[11:13] <mneptok> you'll want to sudo that
[11:13] <darkanyel> hi, anyone can told me how to install rthyhtmbox??
[11:14] <mneptok> darkanyel: it is installed by default in Ubuntu
[11:14] <boink> and there's ntpd as well, which is demon to keep your computer in the correct time
[11:14] <boink> is ntpd installed as default too?
[11:14] <flaccid> which file stores the login manager to run?
[11:14] <mneptok> boink: no
[11:14] <darkanyel> yes mneptok, but i wanna install the 0.9.6
[11:14] <mneptok> darkanyel: then you need to compile it from source yourself.
[11:14] <buzzy-> boink,  where do i find timeservers?
[11:14] <flaccid> i guess its /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:14] <boink> ideally, you should use a timeserver for your ISP
[11:15] <darkanyel> yes mneptok, but i dont know how
[11:15] <mneptok> buzzy-: google for "public stratum 2 ntp servers"
[11:15] <boink> but not all ISP's have their own timeservers :/
[11:15] <Arcad3> how to change apache the page at the index of.. not to show the OS version and apache version?
[11:15] <flaccid> but that doesnt exist
[11:15] <boink> thus ... with google you can find the closest time server
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> Many home routers come with a timeserver.
[11:16] <boink> yes, like the D-link fiasco
[11:16] <boink> D-Link was pounding a time server in .dk
[11:16] <david83> !lilo
[11:16] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[11:16] <nekloksan> dcc send<PHONE_NUMBER>asdfghjjjjjjjjjjj
[11:17] <godfather> guys
[11:17] <Draco> I have a new motherboard that I am having networking problems with, I have done the networking configuration and its enabled, however I only seem to receive data, no data is sent
[11:17] <darkanyel> mneptok, when i use "./configure" evething is ok escept this "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" what mean this??
[11:17] <godfather> i have problems with synaptic
[11:17] <godfather> could anyone help me?
[11:17] <Enselic> How could we know?
[11:17] <david83> !ask > david83
[11:17] <david83> !question > david83
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <wrabbit^> just ask godfather .. don't ask to ask
[11:18] <godfather> ok
[11:18] <wrabbit^> :)
[11:18] <godfather> if yiu give me the past link
[11:18] <Draco> can anyone help me troubleshoot a networking problem please.
[11:18] <mneptok> darkanyel: you're missing a Perl module. get it with Synaptic or CPAN
[11:18] <david83> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <wrabbit^> lol
[11:19] <Draco> wiseass...
[11:19] <jernst> Hi everybody
[11:19] <Draco> I have a new motherboard that I am having networking problems with, I have done the networking configuration and its enabled, however I only seem to receive data, no data is sent
[11:19] <darkanyel> what should i look fo in synaptics???
[11:19] <Enselic> !ask > Enselic
[11:19] <Arcad3> godfather:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:19] <godfather> no
[11:20] <david83> Draco do you got a onboard or hardware network card?
[11:20] <jernst> I have just installed edgy on my desktop computer (which was running Gentoo before). I have a RAID0 array (softraid) where / is supposed to be. However as it seems default Ubuntu kernel doesn't have RAID0 support buildin (but as a module) I can't boot...
[11:20] <Arcad3> what seems to bethe problem?
[11:20] <jernst> does someone know if the server-image has raid compiled in ?
[11:20] <Draco> david83, its onboard, MSI mbd
[11:20] <godfather> even if i try to install a new package o simply making the update it gives to meyhe same error
[11:20] <Arcad3> change repositories
[11:21] <david83> Draco you are behind a router and don
[11:21] <Arcad3> solved my prob
[11:21] <david83> Draco and can't send data? or what is the constaltion
[11:22] <Draco> david83, physical network is fine if I plug the laptop in the same network point with the same configuration everything is fine
[11:22] <Enselic> Do I get this > Enselic
[11:22] <Draco> david83, data is received according to support tab but 0 bytes sent
[11:22] <Enselic> !bottutorial
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bottutorial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <Draco> david83, I can ping the IP address assigned to the card via network tools
[11:23] <david83> Draco is it a dual network board?
[11:23] <Draco> david83, no only 1 oboard
[11:23] <buzzy-> do you know gnormalize? is it good?
[11:23] <david83> hmm
[11:24] <Draco> very hmm
[11:24] <mathrick> larsemil: that doesn't solve anything, merely works around the problem by loading modmap using old and obsolete method. XKB still doesn't work and it will be broken again on your next login
[11:24] <david83> Draco did it worked already on linux?
[11:24] <Draco> david83, first time installation on this machine
[11:25] <darkanyel> mneptok, which packet i need?
[11:25] <david83> Draco, maybe try knoppix and if the network works write down the used driver
[11:25] <grolsch> i'm trying to inject some packets into an old version of apache and need some help
[11:25] <Draco> david83, knoppix ?
[11:25] <bsharitt> Is there a better place to discuss Edgy Eft, or this room alright?
[11:25] <david83> !knoppix <
[11:25] <roconnor> why are linux-kernel-headers only available for  <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix < - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <david83> !knoppix > Draco
[11:26] <roconnor> that seems very strange to me
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <david83> lame :)
[11:27] <Draco> seems its faster for me to just install windows than to troubleshoot linux
[11:27] <Enselic> !ubuntu
[11:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[11:27] <Enselic> !gwbush
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwbush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Enselic> !politics
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about politics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Enselic> !themeaningoflife
[11:27] <Draco> david83, thanks for the help anyways going to install windows to test the card
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about themeaningoflife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <boink> heh .. c'mon, let's not abuse the bot
[11:28] <Draco> Enselic, stop spamming u dork
[11:28] <david83> Draco  i know it's hard and its free though
[11:28] <boink> it's much easier than many other distros
[11:28] <bsharitt> I just installed Edgy Eft, and am having some difficulties with the networking settings.
[11:28] <david83> Draco what your language
[11:28] <david83> watch
[11:29] <nikin> installing windows is fast... but isnt any good :D
[11:29] <Draco> david83, I have 23 other MSI workstations running on the network with Ubuntu never had this problem before so I just need to identify if its hardware related
[11:29] <bsharitt> For some reason, the network settings won't hold the default gateway address
[11:29] <david83> Draco what MSI board you got?
[11:29] <bsharitt> Even when I add it to the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand, it gets removed.
[11:29] <boink> that's really odd
[11:30] <Draco> david83, K9NGM2-FID
[11:30] <david83> Draco could be hardware related one out of 23 :)
[11:30] <bsharitt> I can ping the router and other devices on my network, but since it won't take the gateway it can't see outside my network.
[11:30] <boink> you have dhcp or a static ip?
[11:30] <Draco> david83, first time with K9N motherboard so it may not be supported in Ubuntu, board is 2 days old
[11:31] <main2> how do i disable localisation in my console?, i want my english console back :(
[11:31] <mneptok> darkanyel: you need that Perl module
[11:31] <bsharitt> Static
[11:31] <Draco> statis
[11:31] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:31] <SeAofSaRo> anyone know how to get video codecs working in ubuntu?
[11:31] <boink> apt-get install build-essential
[11:31] <mneptok> darkanyel: read the error message you showed me, look for the module it complains is missing, and then search repos for that module.
[11:31] <david83> Draco yeah new hardware is always difficult in linux
[11:31] <boink> buzzy: it's called "build-essential" or something like that
[11:32] <boink> it will then install stuff like gcc, make, etc
[11:32] <Draco> david83, ok gonna install windows quick to see if card works there
[11:32] <mneptok> buzzy-: what is this tar file? for what app?
[11:32] <david83> Draco, good luck
[11:33] <bsharitt> Are there any known problems with Edgy Efts network setting tool?
[11:33] <buzzy-> mneptok, gnormalize, u know?
[11:33] <wrabbit^> Is there an easy way to play a CD via the command line?
[11:33] <nikin> wrabbit.. there are some command line CD players
[11:34] <godfather> guys help me i pasted the error on 25795
[11:34] <sharju> Hello can anyone please help me?
[11:34] <boink> I think "cdplay" is a CMI cdplayer thing
[11:34] <mneptok> buzzy-: yep. you'll need build-essentials
[11:34] <boink> sharju: sure, just ask
[11:34] <boink> it's called "build-essentials", right?
[11:34] <mneptok> it is
[11:34] <boink> apt-get install build-essentials
[11:34] <mneptok> +sudo
[11:34] <boink> :)
[11:34] <derotto1337> sudo rm -rf /
[11:34] <roconnor> okay now I think I know the right question:  Why does libc6-dev depend on linux-kernel-headers, rather than linux-headers?
[11:35] <derotto1337> yes, boink
[11:35] <derotto1337> it has
[11:35] <godfather> could anyone help me?
[11:35] <main2> derotto1337:  dont
[11:35] <main2> asshole
[11:35] <boink> ok .. heh, never used it. I always installed each thing one by one *duh*
[11:35] <derotto1337> asshole?
[11:35] <derotto1337> :o
[11:35] <mneptok> roconnor: because the headers need to be specific to the released kernel version you're running. linux-headers is too generic for that.
[11:35] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:35] <main2> theres a lot of noobs around here, ur not funny derotto1337
[11:35] <boink> for doing what, buzzy?
[11:36] <derotto1337> so they should not do sudo rm -rf /
[11:36] <nikin> wrabbit: see mcdp
[11:36] <bsharitt> Arrr, I with the normal "simple" installer(from the liveCD) gave the option whether or not install the boot loader, or at least let me configure it.
[11:36] <derotto1337> or sudo rm -rf /
[11:36] <derotto1337> because sudo rm -rf / is bad
[11:36] <mneptok> derotto1337: stop
[11:36] <main2> can anyone kick that derotto1337 asshole?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> derotto1337: please watch you lnaguage
[11:36] <sharju> I have just instaled Ubuntu server edition on an old computer. The isnatllation went fine, and I removed the installation CD. The problem is that ithe system just wont boot up.
[11:36] <main2> !mods !admin
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mods !admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <gnomefreak> main2: watch your language
[11:36] <DickSmith> Ive been trying linux on an off for about two months now. I no expert....On the surface it's ready i believe...but when you look under the surface it's really confusing....when you want to install drivers/various things you have to go through a whole process of confusing commands an create weird txt files bla bla...dont get me wrong i like linux but there is so much confusing shit
[11:36] <gnomefreak> derotto1337: stop giving bad advice
[11:36] <main2> gnomefreak: USE ur fckin skills and do something about that moron
[11:37] <mneptok> DickSmith: i could say the *exact* same thing about Windows.
[11:37] <roconnor> mneptok: but there are no linux-kernel-headers for the kernal avaiable
[11:37] <derotto1337> gnomefreak, i said they sould not do that
[11:37] <DickSmith> how wneptok?
[11:37] <godfather> guys i can't make update
[11:37] <bsharitt> Meh, a reboot apparently worked
[11:37] <godfather> i can't install any package
[11:37] <godfather> it gives to me the same damn error
[11:37] <mneptok> DickSmith: "what the HELL is a 'registry'?! and how is anyone supposed to make sense of it?"
[11:37] <apokryphos> derotto1337: you also don't have to be annoying
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ty mine wasnt able to do that
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: there is no linux-kernel-2.6.15 package in ubuntu.
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: there is no linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 package in ubuntu.
[11:38] <sharju> The computer keeps restarting. Its seesm that LILO is unaware of the linux partitions.
[11:38] <DickSmith> You dont need to tamper with the registry
[11:38] <boink> using lilo?
[11:38] <DickSmith> to install ATI cards for example
[11:38] <boink> ubuntu uses grub
[11:38] <gnomefreak> boink: you can use both
[11:38] <gnomefreak> either even
[11:38] <roconnor> mneptok: but there is a linux-headers-2.6.15 package that describes itself as linux kernel headers
[11:38] <boink> but why would you want to use ubuntu?
[11:39] <mneptok> DickSmith: no, you get this blob of stuff from ATI, double click an installer, and pray to almighty God that you don;t have to reinstall the OS when the wizard fails.
[11:39] <sharju> Sorry I meant GRUB.
[11:39] <godfather> please help me
[11:39] <boink> aaargh, I mean lilo :P
[11:39] <boink> s/ubuntu/lilo/
[11:39] <v3l0ct> godfather: what's the error
[11:39] <mneptok> roconnor: do a search for "headers" with Synaptic or apt-cache
[11:40] <roconnor> mneptok: I have
[11:40] <david83> mneptok; you don't have to reinstall but it never works that's all
[11:40] <DickSmith> I agree Windows is flawed
[11:40] <david83> !politics
[11:40] <v3l0ct> nothing is perfect
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about politics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <mneptok> DickSmith: the problem is one of acclimitization. you're *used* to the way Windows does things. it never occurs to you that you have spent years and years getting this knowledge. Linux isn't harder, it's just different.
[11:41] <SeAofSaRo> anyone in here ever setup a wacom tablet in ubuntu?
[11:41] <wrabbit^> by default, where does ubuntu/kubuntu mount the cd/dvd?
[11:42] <v3l0ct> godfather: it's usually best if you paste the link to your pastebin entry than just giving a number
[11:42] <buzzy-> people i have downloaded a tar that has to be installaed: i type sudo ./install but it says : "make command not found"
[11:42] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <buzzy-> what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:42] <DickSmith> I learnt Windows in 5 minutes
[11:42] <david83> wrabbit, /media
[11:42] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: you dont do ./install
[11:42] <DickSmith> I love Ubuntu but its taking months
[11:42] <david83> DickSmith, take apple and you don't have to learn anything
[11:42] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, i solved install problems, now i'd like to know what is the best audio converter
[11:43] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: unpack the tar than cd into new dir. than type ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:43] <wrabbit^> david83, I'm trying to play an audio cd that I've just put in my dvd drive but I can't for the life of me figure out how to play it
[11:43] <sharju> I want a free file fileserver that I my windows computer can access + I want to try Linux out.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> convert what to waht?
[11:43] <david83> wrabbit^, it's because of the codecs
[11:43] <roconnor> See for yourself: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev
[11:43] <DickSmith> Apple is gay.
[11:44] <david83> wrabbit did you try cd-player over ubuntu gui?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> DickSmith: stay on topic
[11:44] <boink> sharju: then samba is what you need
[11:44] <DickSmith> I love linux it's just really confusing to me I'm not saying that's a bad thing
[11:44] <roconnor> Look, it depends on linux-*kernel*-headers
[11:44] <wrabbit^> david83, is there a way to search the cd via command line?
[11:44] <DickSmith> ok gnomefreak
[11:44] <DickSmith> sorry dude
[11:44] <julo> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-pl
[11:44] <wrabbit^> as in list files
[11:44] <roconnor> but when you click on it, you get http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/linux-kernel-headers
[11:44] <roconnor> Package: linux-kernel-headers (<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu18)
[11:44] <roconnor> see: wrong version!
[11:45] <roconnor> Has anyone here installed libc6-dev?
[11:45] <Normal> I can't get a 2.6.15 kernel to load(it freezes while booting) but I can get a 2.6.12 to...Are there any other options?
[11:45] <david83> wrabbit don't you got a GUI like gnome or KDE?
[11:45] <sharju> Yea I know, I but my fresh Server installation just won't boot up.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> roconnor: ubuntu never used the 2.6.11 kernel afaik
[11:46] <roconnor> gnomefreak: I know, the libc6-dev package dependencies are broken!
[11:46] <roconnor> and that is an imporant package
[11:46] <gnomefreak> roconnor: on dapper?
[11:46] <sharju> I get no error messages the computer just reboots constantly ubtill I shut it off.
[11:46] <wrabbit^> david83, I do but I'd like to work out how to use the command line for simple things like this
[11:46] <roconnor> gnomefreak: yes, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libc6-dev
[11:47] <Normal> Can I install a 2.6.12 kernel if I download the '
[11:47] <v3l0ct> roconnor: how is it broken?
[11:47] <Normal> notlive dapper
[11:47] <gnomefreak> roconnor: file a bug. giv eme bug number i will try to ping the kernel guy later this morning
[11:47] <david83> wrabbit there are better things to try for simple command line things
[11:47] <gnomefreak> v3l0ct: it depends on a kernel-header that ubuntu never uese
[11:47] <gnomefreak> d
[11:47] <gnomefreak> used even
[11:48] <julo> how to configure apache2 on ubuntu to make my host visible outside network
[11:48] <wrabbit^> david83, you're probably right
[11:48] <david83> wrabbit like mkdir, ls, cp, mv, du, df, rm, and things like that
[11:48] <v3l0ct> gnomefreak: but it says >= so it should be ok
[11:48] <roconnor> v3l0ct: check out the kernel-header depencency
[11:49] <wrabbit^> I've learny mkdir, ls, cp, mv, less, file, which etc
[11:49] <wrabbit^> actually, not file.  I have no idea what that is
[11:49] <wrabbit^> "man" has been alot of help
[11:49] <roconnor> v3l0ct: but in ubuntu, the kernel header packages are called linux-header, not linux-kernel-header
[11:49] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:49] <v3l0ct> roconnor: oh i see
[11:49] <roconnor> gnomefreak: what is the simplest way for me to file a bug?
[11:49] <david83> wrabbit there are much linux doc out there for learn to work in the console
[11:49] <gnomefreak> yes its greater than
[11:50] <gnomefreak> roconnor: shouldnt need to
[11:50] <v3l0ct> they weren't updated, i think they used to go by that name
[11:50] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, i solved install problems, now i'd like to know what is the best audio converter
[11:50] <buzzy-> friends: what is the best audio conversion tool?
[11:50] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, what should I do then?
[11:50] <buzzy-> sorry gnomefreak
[11:50] <david83> wrabbit apropos and info and the find command is good too
[11:50] <buzzy-> :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> roconnor: it depends on a kernel-headers version greater than 2.6.11
[11:50] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: i asked you a wuestion
[11:50] <v3l0ct> buzzy-: google is your friends.  it's all a matter of taste
[11:50] <gnomefreak> question and havent seen answer yet
[11:50] <wrabbit^> david83, I've been going through www.linuxcommand.org I think it's called
[11:50] <wrabbit^> very good
[11:51] <DickSmith> When I type fglxinfo in terminal it doesnt show information...why?
[11:51] <wrabbit^> plus, I pick up other things of google whenever possible
[11:51] <webben> If I insert a USB drive, then an icon appears on the desktop. Right-clicking offers a load of options including Eject. If I double-click the icon to open the USB drive in Nautilus, then go up, the drive appears as a folder.
[11:51] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, what wuestion?
[11:51] <webben> There is no eject option for the folder.
[11:51] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: it's fglrxinfo, that's why
[11:51] <aFx> does user of here make web-design to PhP ?
[11:51] <aFx> does user of here make web-design to PhP ?
[11:51] <webben> This seems massively counter-intuitive.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: what are you looking to convert to what?
[11:51] <katatafish> O_o
[11:51] <wrabbit^> I'd just like to know that if I try a BSD or a distro like slackware, I'm not gonna be outta my depth because I'm used to something like Ubuntu
[11:51] <Enselic> !realplayer
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <DickSmith> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:51] <buzzy-> gnomefreak, wav to mp3
[11:51] <webben> Does this happen to other people? If so, is there a fix for Dapper and has this been fixed in Edgy?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> buzzy-: google for that i dont remember ubuntu having a package for that
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: yes, but there are no linux-*kernel*-headers greater than 2.6.11
[11:52] <gnomefreak> roconnor: yes there is
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there are, however, linux-headers greater than 22.6
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there are, however, linux-headers greater than 2.6
[11:52] <gnomefreak> dappers kernel headers should be 2.6.15
[11:52] <roconnor> gnomefreak: notice the change in package name!
[11:53] <DickSmith> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:53] <axeeOo> hi; im having trouble enabling syntax highliting in vim, I have uncommented the " syntax enable line, but it is still not working; I also installed cream and tried toggling the setting there but it does not work. anyone know perhaps why its doing this/how to fix it?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> roconnor: the package name for what?
[11:53] <david83> wrabbit, yeah it's hard i tried to get my PCMCIA network card to run under Debian and it took me 2 weeks and i had no success :(
[11:53] <roconnor> gnomefreak: linux-headers vs linux-kernel-headers
[11:53] <gnomefreak> linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15-xx
[11:53] <gnomefreak> roconnor: 2 differnet packages
[11:53] <v3l0ct> gnomefreak: lame will convert from wav to mp3
[11:53] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: what card?
[11:53] <roconnor> gnomefreak: there is no linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 package in dapper.
[11:54] <wrabbit^> david83, did you use ndiswrapper?
[11:54] <DickSmith> ATI 9500 i think.
[11:54] <wrabbit^> took me a while to work out how to install my card on my thinkpad
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !info linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15
[11:54] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-headers-2.6.15 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:54] <roconnor> gnomefreak: or at least none that I can find
[11:54] <gnomefreak> give me a min
[11:54] <DickSmith> something like that. I installed XGI and tried to install compiz but i think i failed...now i get that error
[11:54] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: what did you do to install.
[11:54] <roconnor> :)
[11:54] <roconnor> thanks
[11:54] <aFx> what language do user of here make web-page (php,asp,cgi,java)?
[11:54] <david83> wrabbit no i tried ubuntu and by just putting it in the slot it was installed correctly no problems
[11:54] <user-land> Hello, is the Firewall in Ubuntu 6.06 easy to use ?
[11:54] <v3l0ct> ati9500 won't run xgl
[11:54] <axeeOo> aFx: php
[11:55] <DickSmith> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver
[11:55] <doublemarked> I think you just want "kernel-headers-..." ... it's not prepended by 'linux'
[11:55] <aFx> oh php...
[11:55] <ajmitch> roconnor: why is it a problem?
[11:55] <DickSmith> that, it was working...untill i install XGL
[11:55] <BlueEagle> user-land: There are several front-ends for iptables (which is the firewall that most use)
[11:55] <BlueEagle> user-land: I recomedn firestarter if you're not savvy on firewalls. If you want finer control however shorewall is my personal choice.
[11:55] <BlueEagle> recomend*
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Package linux-kernel-headers
[11:55] <gnomefreak>     * dapper (devel): Linux Kernel Headers for development
[11:55] <gnomefreak>       <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu18: amd64 i386 powerpc
[11:55] <wrabbit^> david83, :) awesome.  That's what I mean though.  Ubuntu does alot for you(which is GREAT) but I think it's leading me into a false sense of security in context of more "advanced" *nix distros
[11:56] <roconnor> ajmitch: Well, I was trying to build something that and it failed.  When investigating, I stumbled upon this issue, which may or may not be related to my build problem.
[11:56] <user-land> thank you blueeagle.
[11:56] <BlueEagle> user-land: np. :)
[11:56] <aFx> axeeOo : does many user use php?
[11:56] <v3l0ct> DickSmith: uninstall fglrx, go back to ati drivers then reinstall
[11:56] <ajmitch> roconnor: probably unrelated, what were you trying to build?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you will be fine with it its greater than 2.6.11
[11:56] <david83> wrabbit, :) what distro will you be installing?
[11:56] <Phoenix321> rk
[11:56] <axeeOo> aFx: millions
[11:56] <ajmitch> mneptok: poor poor ogra..
[11:56] <roconnor> ajmitch: I'm trying to build http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zandy/ckpt/
[11:56] <wrabbit^> david83, I'd like to try slackware or a BSD(yeah, I know it's not linux)
[11:57] <wrabbit^> or maybe Gentoo
[11:57] <david83> wrabbit, i thought about gentoo cause it's not that esay to install or linux from scratch
[11:57] <wrabbit^> ^ :)
[11:57] <aFx>  kk
[11:57] <axeeOo> anyone know how to fix vim syntax highliting?
[11:57] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you are saying that using linux-kernel-headers that does not match my kernel version is fine?
[11:57] <ajmitch> roconnor: perfectly fine
[11:57] <david83> !google
[11:57] <ubotu> google is a very popular search engine, http://www.google.com
[11:57] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:57] <david83> :)
[11:57] <roconnor> gnomefreak: odd, but okay then.
[11:57] <mneptok> wrabbit^: want a shell account on my NetBSD/mac68K box? :P
[11:58] <ajmitch> linux-kernel-headers are the userspace headers that don't need to be the same as the kernel version
[11:58] <ajmitch> since the syscall interfaces don't change
[11:58] <user-land> the most important for me is that i can easily disable it, blueeagle. can they both easily be set to allow everything ?
[11:58] <wrabbit^> mneptok, I'd have no idea how to get into it. hehe... ssh?
[11:58] <DickSmith> how do u uninstall fglrx?
[11:58] <mneptok> wrabbit^: exactly. but, it's impossible, as that machine is the NTP server for the Montreal office, and behind a hardened ssh server
[11:59] <wrabbit^> mneptok.  Then don't tease :P
[11:59] <david83> DickSmith: apt-get uninstall or something like that?
[11:59] <wrabbit^> apt-get remove
[11:59] <david83> mneptok, what the thing about HARDENED ?
[12:01] <mneptok> david83: the ssh server does not have a lot of daemons installed, does not allow password auth, uses AES wherever possible, etc etc
[12:01] <mneptok> NetBSD banba 3.0 NetBSD 3.0 (GENERIC) #0: Mon Dec 19 01:12:53 UTC 2005  builds@b4.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-3-0-RELEASE/mac68k/200512182024Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-3-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/mac68k/compile/GENERIC mac68k
[12:01] <mneptok> delicious
[12:02] <david83> mneptok isn't that normal or a bit thought-about configuration of you ssh-server?
[12:02] <david83> your
[12:03] <mneptok> david83: sshd allows password auth by default. the public-facing server here only allows authroized keys.
[12:04] <wrabbit^> You have one I take it
[12:04] <jeanmi3> is it normal with ubuntu 6.06 kernel  2.6.15-25-386 and the 'tun' module loaded that I can not use tun0 ?
[12:04] <mneptok> i just like the fact that time for the office is controlled by a Mac Quadra 605 that's like 15 years old :)
[12:04] <jeanmi3> could someone here try to modprobe tun && ifconfig tun0 ?
[12:04] <david83> mneptok, i think i got it :) hardend is just that some guys that know about security issues check about the best and most secure config for your server that's all :)
[12:04] <jeanmi3> I am getting "tun0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[12:05] <mneptok> david83: exactly. it's best practices, not some kind of arcane hardware you can buy ;)
[12:05] <david83> ;)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> jeanmi3: same on edgy
[12:06] <afief> How can i find out what crashed an application?
[12:06] <jeanmi3> gnomefreak thanks
[12:06] <gnomefreak> afief: what app?
[12:06] <mneptok> only Windows sysadmins are stupid enough to believe system security can be sold in a shrink-wrapped box with no user knowledge necessary >:)
[12:06] <afief> gnomefreak: firefox
[12:06] <wrabbit^> +1 to mneptok  :P
[12:07] <david83> mneptok, i know this isn't a PPC linux chat room but do you think i can get any linux running on a Powerbook 520 ?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> afief: oh fun heres easy way remove the flash plugin and see if it still crashes or get the firefox-dgb package and run a debug on it
[12:07] <wrabbit^> david83, I'm guessing that any linux will run on anything if you can config it to
[12:08] <roconnor> gnomefreak: consider include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:08] <[miles] > good afternoon #ubuntu
[12:08] <wrabbit^> hi
[12:08] <mneptok> david83: PPC Linux without OpenFirmware is tricky. Debian has struggled, as have others. you might want to try NetBSD. they have a larger and more active antique Mac crowd at this point.
[12:08] <roconnor> gnomefreak: in linux-headers one has #define PAGE_SIZE ((unsigned long)getpagesize())
[12:08] <david83> wrabbit, well then i have a project for the next 2 years :)
[12:08] <afief> gnomefreak: i have the flash plugin already removed, and it's kinda scary to debug a huge app like firefox, especially since i don't know java script for apps
[12:08] <[miles] > does anyone know of a LinPhone 1.4 .deb repo please? I only see 1.2 in ubuntu atm, and I dont really want to go compiling from source on this laptop
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: but in linux-headers, one has #define PAGE_SIZE       (1UL << PAGE_SHIFT)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> afief: file a bug and add the debugging info and let us look at it than
[12:09] <afief> gnomefreak: it's not like it freezes, it just exits all of a sudden
[12:09] <wrabbit^> david83, hehe.  Time well spent
[12:09] <wrabbit^> Anybody here learnt python?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> wrabbit^: what about it?
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: my program that I downloaded uses the PAGE_SIZE in a statically allocated array.
[12:09] <david83> afief, i got the same error all the time :)
[12:09] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thus it cannot make a function call
[12:10] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thus I cannot use the old headers.
[12:10] <wrabbit^> gnomefreak: Nothing special.  Just curious as I've been trying to teach myself the past few days.
[12:10] <afief> gnomefreak: okay, but another question, i have a friend whose whole system freezes quite often, what can i do about that?
[12:10] <ori> Hello, How do you get winrar to work on UBuntu 6.06, or unrar as it was calle,d as they no longer work for me, says they are commercial?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> roconnor: i cant help that your program that you are trying to build is out of date ot doesn call right functions
[12:10] <roconnor> ajmitch: oh, you may be interested in my problem too.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> wrabbit^: #python or #ubuntu-offtopic might beable to help more with it
[12:10] <afief> gnomefreak: also what would i write in my bug report?:S there seems to be no consistent reaoson why it happens, at leasr i can't see a pattern
[12:10] <wrabbit^> ori, there are other tools that'll handle stuff like that.  Ark?
[12:10] <roconnor> gnomefreak: how can my program be out of date when it works with the newer header files?
[12:10] <david83> ori, install it over apt-get?
[12:11] <YBH_1> you can download rar for linux at rarlabs.com
[12:11] <wrabbit^> gnomefreak, thanks
[12:11] <afief> david83: what do you mean?
[12:11] <ori> david i have, unrar package but it doesnt work
[12:11] <gnomefreak> afief: firefox crashes as much info as you can give plus the debugging and any links that are crashing it
[12:11] <david83> ori, unrar-free?
[12:11] <wrabbit^> honesly, FreeNode is a gem
[12:11] <mneptok> unrar is in the apt repos
[12:11] <a_l_e> does anybody use turboprint
[12:11] <a_l_e> ?
[12:11] <ori> unrar-free only opens old type or .rars not the new types that is what i download
[12:11] <mneptok> wrabbit^: the community, or the service itself (re: Freenode)?
[12:12] <ori> something to do with unicode i am unsure of the specifics but i know it doesnt open what i download after its installed
[12:12] <ori> it used to but then i am sure it suddenyl went commercial
[12:12] <ori> as it used to be called unrar not unrar-free
[12:12] <wrabbit^> mneptok, both.
[12:12] <user-land> system monitor is so bad in showing cpu usage ...
[12:12] <wrabbit^> mneptok: It's a great resource
[12:12] <gnomefreak> roconnor: if its calling a function that breezy used and not dapper than hence out of date but since i dont have the script or code for it its hard to say. and btw ubuntu doesnt support 3rd party apps
[12:13] <pluma> How do I automatically check-out data from a locally running SVN repos to a local folder whenever someone commits to a certain folder in SVN?
[12:13] <user-land> cpu usage is around 70% yet system monitor only lists a few apps around 2% ...
[12:13] <david83> ori, unrar-free doesn't worked for me ether just install unrar or ark like somebody said check your repositories to see if you can get it
[12:13] <jaheiska> mo
[12:13] <mneptok> ori: enable Multiverse
[12:13] <ori> unrar is not in there i did do apt search and multiverse is enabled
[12:13] <david83> !repository
[12:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:14] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you saw it yourself, it is dapper that is out of date.  It has 2.6.11 kernel-headers.
[12:14] <ori> I completely understand repositories dont worry, And I have all of them ticked apart from the CD's
[12:14] <ori> in software properties
[12:14] <ori> havent added any manually though
[12:14] <david83> ori, did you do a apt-get update  first? i installed it over apt-get and it was found
[12:14] <mneptok> ori: i see it in Multiverse
[12:15] <gnomefreak> roconnor: no
[12:15] <ori> no i dont see it
[12:15] <Gumli> the server edition of ubuntu, how does it's auto partition tool devide the disc up?, /, boot, /swap ?
[12:15] <afief> gnomefreak: okay installing firefox-dbg, but what about the system lock ups?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> roconnor: those are correct for dapper
[12:15] <mneptok> ori: enable Multiverse and update your package info
[12:15] <ori> THat is one strange thing is this a related problem, programs like adobe reader says not available in your software channel, so does a few others, but in the past they worked fine
[12:15] <gnomefreak> afief: i dont know right off hand memory maybe?
[12:15] <roconnor> gnomefreak: then I'm confused.  How can the 2.6.11 kernel-headers be correct for dapper?
[12:15] <user-land> firestarter/iptables was using some 30% of my CPU apparently.
[12:15] <ori> and a friend of mine cannot find DesktopSecure from panda although are settings are exactly the same and i can
[12:15] <mneptok> Gumli: / and swap
[12:16] <david83> ori, check /etc/apt/source.list and take away the # from the lines with multiverse at the end
[12:16] <afief> gnomefreak: is there a way to check what caused it?:S
[12:16] <ori> ok david ill give it a go brb
[12:16] <Gumli> mneptok: really? isn't that kinda "unsafe" ? :(
[12:16] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you didnt listen when we told you before scroll and see what ajmitch told you
[12:16] <ori> another question before i go do that
[12:16] <mneptok> Gumli: how so?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> afief: ps aux and see whats using the cup
[12:16] <gnomefreak> cpu
[12:16] <david83> !ask
[12:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <ori> How do you guys rate Panda DesktopSecure or what do you rate in its place as i would like a full GUI system that prompts you for every outbound connection like in windows
[12:17] <Gumli> mneptok: keeping all data in 1 partition, if partition table goes wrong, etc
[12:17] <gnomefreak> roconnor:  ajmitch > linux-kernel-headers are the userspace headers that don't
[12:17] <gnomefreak>                           need to be the same as the kernel version
[12:17] <gnomefreak> 05:58 <         ajmitch > since the syscall interfaces don't change
[12:17] <david83> ori, sorry no experience with that
[12:17] <mneptok> Gumli: if the partition table itself goes bad, multiple partitions are not going to save you.
[12:17] <Gumli> a better chance though
[12:17] <mneptok> no, not at all
[12:17] <roconnor> gnomefreak: but the PAGE_SIZE macro has changed.
[12:18] <mneptok> the partition tabnle defines what partitions exist where on a disk. if it goes bad, all partitions are toast.
[12:18] <ori> david83, which firewall do you use? just leave the back end ipchains working and no front end GUI?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> roconnor: in the script not in the headers
[12:18] <Gumli> just thought it was common to devide up the drive, /, /boot, /home, swap, /usr and so on
[12:18] <roconnor> gnomefreak: in the headers:  in asm-i386/page.h specifically.  Isn't that a header?
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: it is a good idea
[12:19] <ori> david83 they are all uncommented apart from the CD
[12:19] <gnomefreak> roconnor: should be. but was it changed from breezy to dapper?
[12:19] <david83> ori, is there a default firewall with ubuntu? i guess i don't use one the router is my only protection
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: boot contains the kernel and if its on a seperate parition then you can have it unmounted during use whcih is good
[12:19] <ori> Well, thats where people fall down
[12:19] <ori> they think a router protects them completely, not saying you do
[12:19] <ori> but alot do
[12:19] <gnomefreak> roconnor: grab the change logs for the headers and make sure nothing has changed that the script is caling
[12:19] <variant> Gumli: if /var is on a seperate partition or even disk then you can mount it no exec which is good for security
[12:19] <wrabbit^> Where do I find Control Center in KDE?
[12:20] <wrabbit^> Can't see it anywhere
[12:20] <ori> viruses trojans rootkits make connections outbound and your router allows it as it thinks its you
[12:20] <yallax> heyas all
[12:20] <hoelk> wrabbit: alt+f2 and enter "kcontrol"
[12:20] <ori> a router is great from a guy out on the net port scanning you who dont even know you
[12:20] <Gumli> variant: oki, i'll just have to do it manualy then :)
[12:20] <variant> Gumli: home is good on a seperate parititon as it keeps you seperate from the rest of the system
[12:20] <ori> but a targeted attack on an individual wont be stopped by a router
[12:20] <yallax> damn just noticed how good the Gaim clirnt is for irc :P
[12:20] <wrabbit^> hoelk, very nice, thanks
[12:20] <david83> ori, i don't think i need protection as i know that nothing important is on my pc and  not much daemons are running
[12:20] <variant> Gumli: and you can then use different file systems for each as each is used for different reasons
[12:20] <hoelk> np
[12:20] <ori> and people are very naeive (however you spell :P) thinking LInux is unbelievable secure
[12:20] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, I get what you are saying now!  ubuntu doesn't support 3rd party software.  It suddenly sinks in.
[12:21] <roconnor> gnomefreak: you guys don't promise to have recent linux-kernel-headers.
[12:21] <ori> sure david83 thats fine, I have important documents on mine so it needs protecting
[12:21] <czekista> hello :)
[12:21] <ori> nothing that will shock the world if leaked :P, but important to me
[12:21] <variant> Gumli: i use ext2 on /boot as there is no need for a journal and you want data integrity to be a priority for the kernel
[12:21] <david83> ori, get them on CD :)
[12:21] <ori> lol, oh they are.. but they are needed to be on the box at all times :)
[12:21] <david83> ori, or read-only most of the time
[12:22] <gnomefreak> roconnor: they are recent. im reading what you are saying and it seems you dont know the difference between linux-kernel-headers and linux-headers
[12:22] <roconnor> gnomefreak: So I have to adapt the program I get to work with ubuntu.
[12:22] <ori> hmm i am unsure david83 at how to get this rar to work,
[12:22] <czekista> is there any plugin that allows for viewing pdf files unser webrowser really fast?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you might have to yes
[12:22] <ori> i have tried ark before and that doesnt work I know that
[12:22] <Gumli> variant: ext3 / reiserFS for the rest?
[12:22] <david83> hmmm
[12:22] <Gumli> variant: or do you mix match?
[12:22] <roconnor> gnomefreak: oh, yes, I do not understand the difference.  They seem to contain the same files.
[12:22] <ori> could you download it from apt-get and then get it from the folder the .deb and send it me?
[12:22] <variant> Gumli: ubuntu is fine with about 50 mb for boot but you willneed to clean out old kjernels after a few months/years depending on how often you upgrade
[12:22] <variant> Gumli: exactly
[12:23] <david83> ori, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1070.html try this one
[12:23] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you might want to re-read where ever you read that from because they dont contain the exact same files
[12:23] <variant> Gumli: reiserfs is popular for home dir
[12:23] <Gumli> mneptok: hehe :)
[12:23] <david83> ori, to much stress :)
[12:23] <david83> too
[12:23] <roconnor> gnomefreak: okay, let me be specific.  the linux-kernel-headers has installed /usr/include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:23] <variant> Gumli: the fact is that unless you are using the system to its limmits then you wont notice any difference between the file systems perfomance (except the journal vs no journal ones)
[12:23] <wrabbit^> anybody know how to make firefox my default broswer? I've tried in both firefox and kconsole
[12:23] <ori> I have searched all of sites i can think of and I have tried what they say with no luck really, and this is the annoying thing it worked find before, could it be that the rar is on the CD?
[12:23] <roconnor> gnomefreak: and now I see that I was somewhat mistaken, ... anyhow, I also have a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15-27-686/include/asm-i386/page.h
[12:24] <yallax>  what is the best/fastest virtual pc program to use, if i want to use linux on windows? virtual pc/vmware..etc or native in windows..
[12:24] <roconnor> gnomefreak: these are two different files.
[12:24] <variant> Gumli: you might be best to use ext3 for / and /home
[12:24] <[miles] > guys, is there an easy configurator for XGL yet, like in SLED?
[12:24] <variant> Gumli: you can disable the journal on an ext3 parition making it ext2 and thus you can probably open it under windows with ext2 progs for win
[12:25] <mneptok> Gumli: stick with ext2/ext3. the utilities for them are MUCH more mature.
[12:25] <Gumli> variant: and with my destuctive nature, that probaly isn't a bad thing :P
[12:25] <variant> Gumli: heeh
[12:25] <david83_away> ori, it won't be on CD for sure because it is not freeware
[12:26] <roconnor> gnomefreak: why are these files different?
[12:26] <variant> david83: freeware? there is no freeware on the ubuntu CD
[12:26] <mneptok> variant: the ext2 drivers for Win32 work fine with ext3
[12:26] <Gumli> but if im going to split up partitions myself and etc, is there a real difference between ubuntu and debian?
[12:26] <david83> variant software under gpl
[12:26] <variant> mneptok: yeah? cool
[12:26] <variant> david83: software under the GPL is NOT freeware
[12:27] <david83> variant sry!
[12:27] <variant> david83: so you should be :P
[12:27] <david83> ;P
[12:27] <david83> ori wb
[12:27] <Flamekebab> Does anyone know the actual pricing on crossover office standard, the educational version? (I'm a poor student, but I'd like to actually buy it)
[12:27] <variant> bbl
[12:28] <mneptok> variant: http://fs-driver.org/ <--- (if you care;) )
[12:28] <david83> !bbl
[12:28] <ori> THANKS COMPUTER CRASHED ON ME
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bbl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ori> sorry caps
[12:28] <david83> ori, why did it crash? what did you do?
[12:29] <kishore> other than ext2 and ext3 fs . wot are present
[12:29] <mneptok> kishore: present on what?
[12:29] <david83> variant, are you a programmer or developer?
[12:29] <roconnor> gnomefreak: because if I had the headers from the sources, then things would work for me (even if you guys don't support 3rd party software).
[12:29] <ori> i have an annoying error on this computer, when the system sounds bleep twice in a row perhaps its because i cant type on a line nemore so it bleeps, after two bleeps the whole thing restarts
[12:29] <kishore> i mean on ext2 and ext3 are only there.??
[12:29] <mneptok> kishore: "there" where?
[12:29] <ori> and it has done that for a very long time, but i only trigger it ever so few days/weeks
[12:29] <roconnor> gnomefreak: so I'm pretty surprised that the header I do have are different from the headers from the sources.
[12:29] <kishore> in general
[12:30] <kishore> ext2 ext3...?
[12:30] <Flamekebab> Furthermore, I don't suppose anyone knows about LEAP and PEAP under Dapper?
[12:30] <Gumli> kishore: reiserFS, XFS, JFS
[12:30] <david83> ori, like when you extend a command in console with TAB?
[12:30] <mneptok> +n
[12:30] <david83> +1
[12:31] <ori> no it doesnt bleep then, it bleeped when i pressed enter but it couldnt enter and as i pressed it twice fast
[12:31] <ori> it bleeped twice so off it went
[12:31] <ori> david83 what do you rate of this sources list file on this page, is it similiar to yours? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:31] <pof> hey
[12:34] <david83> ori, sorry i got breezy but still checking :)
[12:34] <jazzrocker> hi, i think i'm missing the alsa modules
[12:34] <ori> :) np
[12:34] <jazzrocker> how can i reinstall and or reconfigure alsa?
[12:35] <chemaja> http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/talk.html
[12:35] <jazzrocker> prior to this i was using OSS by 4Front technologies which is a commercially licensed driver
[12:35] <ori> put it this way with one of those repositories it helps me find the unrar version the non free version, which one would that be?
[12:35] <jazzrocker> i've got the nvidia nForce 3 250G chipset with the AC'97 aka intel8x0 chipset
[12:36] <jazzrocker> but when i: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[12:36] <jazzrocker> i get "fatal not found"
[12:36] <jazzrocker> i looked in /lib/modules/<mykernel>/
[12:36] <jazzrocker> but i didn't see any sound modules in there
[12:37] <ori> I have to go david83 but I will be back in 20mins or so, maybe less...
[12:37] <david83> ori, didn't you have them already all?
[12:37] <david83> ori, ok
[12:37] <kyja> is there something wrong with paste bin or is it me?
[12:38] <jazzrocker> pastebin.com is slow as hell
[12:38] <jazzrocker> kyja, there are other paste alternatives
[12:38] <kyja> is there
[12:38] <jazzrocker> kyja, should be one in the topic
[12:38] <Devil_Kin> heya folks
[12:38] <oskude> jazzrocker: try snd_intel8x0
[12:38] <david83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:38] <Devil_Kin> how 'usable' is the edgy eft?
[12:38] <jazzrocker> oskude, same thing
[12:39] <kyja> david83, yeah thats the one I am having trouble with. almost a blank page.
[12:39] <user-land> blueeagle, how can i make sure firestarter does not activate iptable on the next reboot ?
[12:39] <zaydana> is there a command like apt-cache search which only searches through currently installed packages?
[12:39] <oskude> jazzrocker: hmm, well, i got "snd_intel8x0" in lsmod
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: it depends on how comfortable you are with fixing broken apps
[12:39] <david83> kyja, it worked perfect for me sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25799/
[12:40] <Devil_Kin> gnomefreak: define broken? i usually run debian sid, so it depends on the level of brokenness ;)
[12:40] <jazzrocker> oskude, locate shows me only the header files for intel8x0
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: broken depends on upgrade including X and X packages
[12:40] <jazzrocker> oskude, e.g. /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23-k7/include/config/snd/intel8x0m/module.h
[12:40] <stelki> i anybody else experiencing some weird lockups in X? Using nvidia drivers, installed from "easyubuntu"
[12:40] <Devil_Kin> hmm, that's fixable
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Devil_Kin: i know i can fix it but i dont know what others are able to do
[12:41] <jazzrocker> Devil_Kin, happen to know how to bring alsa back to life again?
[12:41] <kyja> david83, what I am missing is the list on the right of recent posts. and it does not even have a way I can ul a pic if needed anymore.
[12:41] <kyja> oh well
[12:41] <david83> kyja, try http://pastebin.ca http://paste.uni.cc
[12:41] <kyja> k
[12:41] <jazzrocker> interesting, actually i do have this: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-686/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[12:42] <jazzrocker> but that's the only one
[12:42] <jazzrocker> i guess i could use the 686 kernel instead of the k7 image which i'm using now, but why isn't this driver at least in the base 386 modules dir?
[12:43] <jazzrocker> is there a dpkg command i can reconfigure alsa with?
[12:43] <oskude> jazzrocker: i got only this too /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
[12:43] <jazzrocker> oskude, and which kernel are you running?
[12:44] <oskude> jazzrocker: guess ;)
[12:44] <jazzrocker> oskude, no, i'd rather not :)
[12:44] <oskude> jazzrocker: well, the kernel version is on that path i posted :/ 2.6.15-27-k7
[12:44] <jazzrocker> the question is, how do i get that module installed for my current kernel
[12:44] <jazzrocker> oskude, that doesn't mean it's your running kernel
[12:45] <jazzrocker> oskude, that's just the version of that file
[12:45] <jazzrocker> anyway
[12:45] <oskude> jazzrocker: well, i wouldnt have posted it if im not using it...
[12:45] <jazzrocker> oskude, nevermind, you don't understand
[12:46] <kyja> ok I continue to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ becuase I think I like it the most. however it seems they have taken away the recent post list and posiblity to add pict. the recent list is not a problem realy.
[12:47] <rendez> Hello! Can I consult someone about Ubuntu as a server operating system?
[12:47] <david83> kyja so it did work out fine in the end that good to hear
[12:48] <oskude> render: you dont "consult" anyone, you "consult" all, so just ask...
[12:48] <kyja> david83, yeah works fast too. gives me the post id at the end of the link.
[12:49] <oskude> render: sorry, ment rendez you dont "consult" anyone, you "consult" all, so just ask...
[12:49] <sonium_> http://tinyurl.com/p257o <- I wonder why there is no peak in ubuntu.com's traffic now
[12:49] <michele> hello
[12:49] <michele> anybody using nedit in edgy?
[12:49] <whitedeth> anyone know a good software to play FLV videos??
[12:49] <oskude> !edgy > michele
[12:49] <rendez> Anyone here?
[12:50] <michele> thank you oskude
[12:50] <buzzy> people i have installed soundconverter but it does not start!!! why? (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?)
[12:50] <oskude> !rendez > ask
[12:50] <oskude> hups
[12:50] <oskude> !ask > rendez
[12:51] <oskude> buzzy: (i m on kubuntu and it's based on gnome: is this the problem?) no
[12:51] <mneptok> coffee | oskude > better_typing
[12:51] <mneptok> :P
[12:51] <peija-kas> buzzy if you have installed it in KDE, u also sholuld have gnome libraries installed
[12:51] <peija-kas> so it should work
[12:51] <oskude> mneptok: dont trink coffee, thanx
[12:51] <buzzy> !lame
[12:51] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[12:51] <peija-kas> and these are automatically installed as dependencies when u install gnome apps for first time
[12:51] <mneptok> oskude: this coffee will be administered via another orifice ;)
[12:51] <rendez> Okay, so, everyone:P Is ubuntu a great server operating system then?
[12:52] <peija-kas> you guys ever eaten Coffee Shots?
[12:52] <suk4> alguien habla en espaol y me puede ayudar?
[12:52] <peija-kas> roasted coffee beans covered in chocolate?
[12:52] <oskude> rendez: define "great"
[12:52] <peija-kas> theyre great ;)
[12:52] <rendez> well
[12:52] <mneptok> !en > suk4
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <mneptok> !es > suk4
[12:52] <devy> how can i install kde to be like this -> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.3/snapshot13.png now i am using gnome.
[12:52] <gandalfcome> why isnt webmin included in ubuntu is there another/better tool?
[12:52] <rendez> easy to use as a first-time-linux-user
[12:52] <peija-kas> i define great as - coffee beans!!
[12:52] <mneptok> devy: you want KDE instead of GNOME?
[12:52] <gandalfcome> on a server i mean
[12:52] <peija-kas> rendez - i consider ubuntu easy to use foir beginners
[12:52] <devy> mneptok, yes
[12:53] <rendez> well
[12:53] <peija-kas> since i can use it and i was a beginner when i started using it ;)
[12:53] <rendez> can I use the desktop edition as a server?
[12:53] <peija-kas> yes
[12:53] <oskude> rendez: well, server is never easy for "first-time-users" (except some click to continue systems)
[12:53] <whitedeth> what software do I use to play FLV? Anyone know?
[12:53] <peija-kas> flv?
[12:53] <whitedeth> flash video
[12:53] <devy> mneptok, I installed kde typeing this cmd: sudo apt-get install kde and i after that i reboot, nothing happends.
[12:53] <whitedeth> its what's used on YouTube
[12:53] <devy> mneptok, sorry for my english.
[12:53] <mneptok> devy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:53] <whitedeth> but for offline saved files, what would I use?
[12:53] <peija-kas> flash player or thee free alternative
[12:54] <gnomefreak> mneptok: that wont remove anything
[12:54] <jazzrocker> oskude, reinstall of linux-image-k7 did the trick :)
[12:54] <peija-kas> or does VLC know how to play those..
[12:54] <whitedeth> naw, the flash player or the alt, neither will play those.
[12:54] <oskude> jazzrocker: nice
[12:54] <rendez> oskude: I know how linux works, and have been using it a little, but I have no experience with using it as a server operating system
[12:54] <whitedeth> there's VLC for ubuntu?!
[12:54] <whitedeth> why was I never told of this blasphemy?! :|
[12:54] <gnomefreak> roconnor: you still here i have a fix for ya
[12:54] <devy> mneptok, i have to do first sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:54] <oskude> render: well, where should be the difference ? you only dont run x and have more services running (normally)
[12:55] <gnomefreak> roconnor: change the code to use sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) instead of the  PAGE_SIZE constant, and it'll be all good.
[12:55] <rendez> oskude: okay
[12:55] <gnomefreak> devy: apt-get remove will not remove anything ubuntu-desktop installed
[12:55] <tucoz>  I have a strange problem in edgy. I can use my synaptics touchpad, but according Xorg.0.log the synaptics touchpad is not found and the module is unloaded.
[12:55] <rendez> oskude: i know theres a server edition, but does it have a GUI?
[12:55] <tucoz> is the correct device /dev/psaux? or is it some of the devices in /dev/input?
[12:55] <mneptok> devy: install kubuntu-desktop first
[12:55] <devy> mneptok, ok.
[12:56] <oskude> render: no (as installed by default) as GUI doesnt have anything to do in server
[12:56] <mneptok> rendez: no, servers should not have GUIs.
[12:56] <flake> hi
[12:56] <rofl0r> lo
[12:57] <oskude> rendez: but, you can allways install the desktop version, and install apache, ready, you have a http server...
[12:57] <mneptok> rendez: be aware that every package you install on a server is another potential break point for bugs that could cause system compromise.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> devy: mneptok to remove all gtk apps you need to remove libgtk... removing ubuntu-desktop will _not_ remove anything but ubuntu-desktop package you will still have all gnome apps and everything else installed
[12:57] <flake> every time i reboot my laptop i have to manually reconnect the eth1 wireless thingy - is there a shell command to do that
[12:58] <mneptok> gnomefreak: right, so the apps devy was using before will work, but he'll get a KDE desktop
[12:58] <flake> I use System -> Networking
[12:58] <flake> and change something to get it to reconnect when i close it
[12:58] <devy> yes, tha
[12:58] <devy> that's true
[12:58] <gnomefreak> mneptok: yes and i dont recommend removing ubuntu-desktop if he plans on keeping gnome
[12:58] <oskude> flake: are you using edgy ?
[12:59] <flake> i use kubuntu
[12:59] <oskude> !kubuntu
[12:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. To downgrade your version of kubuntu to an older version see: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=609.0
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is needed when using dist-upgrade so if he wants to upgrade to edgy when its released he will need that package
[12:59] <oskude> hmm, didnt kubutu have #kubuntu ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> flake: what kernel are you using?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> oskude: so does xubuntu
[01:00] <flake> the 6.06
[01:00] <oskude> gnomefreak: maybe someone should add #kubuntu to !kubuntu
[01:00] <flake> linux 2. something
[01:00] <flake> 2.41 or 42 or 2.14?  unsure
[01:01] <flake> linux kernel
[01:01] <oskude> flake: uname -r (shows your kernel)
[01:01] <flake> 2.6.15-27-386
[01:02] <roconnor> gnomefreak: thanks for the fix
[01:02] <gnomefreak> roconnor: yw
[01:02] <adrian15> who has asked 1h1/2 before if there was anyone Spanish? I was talking to him
[01:02] <apokryphos> !no kubuntu is <reply> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org for support: #kubuntu ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <gnomefreak> oskude: changed
[01:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ack
[01:02] <roconnor> gnomefreak: althought I'm still confused as to why the files in linux-source and linux-kernel-headers are different. :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: i just added #kubuntu to it
[01:02] <apokryphos> heh ;)
[01:03] <david83> !test
[01:03] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> roconnor: dapper changed things the person i got fix from has been changing things for that for over a year
[01:03] <david83> !test Test
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about test Test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <gnomefreak> roconnor: its different in edgy
[01:03] <roconnor> gnomefreak: ah
[01:03] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[01:03] <david83> k
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ok this isnt good ill bbl i hope
[01:04] <roconnor> gnomefreak: Thanks for all your help1
[01:05] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:05] <jazzrocker> is there a utility to tell me exactly how much ram i have?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> top
[01:05] <XiXaQ> flake, free or top
[01:05] <XiXaQ> sorry
[01:05] <flake> if i do auto eht1 in my /etc/network/interfaces, will that connect me on boot?
[01:05] <flake> free or top?
[01:06] <XiXaQ> flake, wrong nickname. :) It was for jazzrocker..
[01:06] <adrian15> flake: it's eth1 not eht1
[01:06] <jazzrocker> hmm, interesting
[01:06] <ori> david83 you still about?
[01:06] <flake> typo, sorry
[01:06] <jazzrocker> i bought what was supposed to be a gig stick but they gave me a 512
[01:06] <flake> i guess iface .. is defining the interface
[01:06] <flake> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[01:07] <david83> ori, i am still here
[01:07] <flake> but i dont see  auto eth1
[01:07] <oskude> jazzrocker: then go back and change it
[01:07] <jazzrocker> yeah, i know, i will, that's gonna be a pain though. but whatever. they're not open right now.
[01:07] <ori> Well I did have those in there but i dont know if it was the exact same sites if you know what i mean
[01:07] <ori> I had the backports security and all of those in Software Properties enabled
[01:07] <ori> but after putting that in the sources.list file i picked up rar but got alot of conflicting repo's
[01:08] <david83> ori, i thought we were searching for unrar
[01:08] <flake> trying auto eth1 now in my interfaces.. rebooting laptop
[01:09] <howieson26> !de
[01:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:10] <yallax> is there possible to get ubuntu/gnome running in CoLinux? to mee it seems its only console.. http://www.colinux.org/
[01:10] <Jaak_> i need to configure the right audio device for teamspeak
[01:11] <Jaak_> what driver do i set up
[01:11] <Jaak_> default is oss /dev/dsp
[01:11] <oskude> Jaak_: and that doesnt work ?
[01:11] <Jaak_> don
[01:11] <Jaak_> no
[01:12] <oskude> Jaak_: do you have sounds elswhere in ubuntu ?
[01:12] <david83> Jaak_, is it possible that that it is /dev/dsp0 ??
[01:12] <oskude> Jaak_: then try alsa (but /dev/dsp should be right)
[01:12] <Jaak_> ok
[01:13] <djuuss> Hey can anyone think of a GUI frontend for cdemu? Or similar
[01:13] <oskude> Jaak_: do you have more than one soundcard ?
[01:13] <Dr_willis> !info cdemu
[01:13] <ubotu> Package cdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[01:13] <oskude> Jaak_: sorry, gotta go home
[01:14] <timalot> why dont alot ot the changelogs show up when u click on packages listed in the software update window? ,,, i am not updating till i get a changelog
[01:14] <djuuss> !info kcdemu
[01:14] <ubotu> Package kcdemu does not exist in any distro I know
[01:14] <Jaak_> it says my soud is muted
[01:14] <david83> Jaak, did you check the permissions for /dev/dsp and if it excist in your system?
[01:15] <buzzy> how is automatix?
[01:15] <Jaak_> how do i set it to alsa? /dev/alsa?
[01:16] <david83> Jaak, no no not /dev/alsa alsa is just the driver your soundcard is using
[01:16] <Dr_willis> buzzy,  best avoided
[01:16] <buzzy> !automatix
[01:16] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[01:16] <buzzy> Dr_willis, why?
[01:16] <devy> mneptok, after that what i have to do, reboot?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> buzzy,  its BEST to learn to install/do the things it does manually,  Its been known to break systems.
[01:17] <buzzy> ok
[01:18] <devy> gnomefreak, after that what i have to do, reboot?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Ive seen quite a few people come in here and state a problem similer to.... "I Used automatix and now.... XYZ  is broke...  how do i fix"   (and no one knows how to fix it) :)
[01:18] <gnomefreak> log out and on the log in screen click sessions and log into kde if you want to use kde
[01:19] <devy> gnomefreak, ok thank you
[01:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:19] <MrNaz> is there a charmap program in ubuntu? how do you get characters like the (c) copyright symbol and the (tm) symbol etc?
[01:20] <adrian15> MrNaz: Have you gone to Tools or Accesories ?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> *warning* if you ping me and i dont answer dont be suprised there is a big issue near me im watching
[01:20] <Cartas> Hi old chaps! Anybody here capable of solving no-internet problems in ubuntu? :o
[01:20] <MrNaz> adrian15: uh oh... it's obvious and its there isnt it? i really should look before i ask dumb questions
[01:20] <tehstev> hey - any way to change the behavior of ctrl-left/right in text fields? The default non-word characters make it pretty unusable
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Cartas: you have a better chance of just stating your issue
[01:21] <devy> gnomefreak, what i have to select, gdm or kdm ? it says: "select the desired default display manager" ?
[01:21] <wodz> what happens, step-by-step, when new usb pendrive is inserted? What is responsible for pup-up' new drive icon on desktop?
[01:21] <flake> didn't work, auto eth1 kept me from pinging on boot
[01:21] <gnomefreak> devy: i normally use gdm but you can choose whatever one you want gdm/kdm are the login screens
[01:21] <Cartas> Well, I installed ubuntu -> No internet -> Downloaded a package for USB ADSL modems, as well as a package for PPPoE, yet my internet does not work.
[01:21] <Cartas> Any help would be greatly appreciated! :O
[01:22] <flake> is there a way to activate eth1 without going into system/networking on boot?
[01:22] <devy> gnomefreak, ok :)
[01:22] <flake> it says it's activated when i go in there, but lies i tell you, all lies!!!
[01:23] <flake> have to change something to make it update, then it clocks for a few seconds saying 'Activating eth1'
[01:23] <david83> Cartas, did you do any configuration?
[01:23] <Cartas> Hm
[01:23] <Cartas> Not that I know of? :o
[01:23] <flake> then voila i am on until i reboot
[01:23] <jolt> Question, why doesnt Ubuntus version of netscape appear to remote hosts as a standard version of firefox?
[01:23] <ori> sorry david38 yeah I mean unrar
[01:23] <ori> david83*
[01:23] <jolt> Iv had sites complain im not using Firefox 1.5
[01:23] <Cartas> david83: I did this in the terminal: "sudo pppoeconf"
[01:24] <Cartas> But I got an error.
[01:24] <flake> btw eth1 is the wireless connection on laptop gateway
[01:24] <valehru> Whats the best HTML application to use in ubuntu for designing?  NVU?  Looking for a dreamweaver clone..
[01:24] <david83> ori, so what is the status? :D
[01:25] <david83> Cartas, what error?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> valehru: nvu or bluefish nvu is closer to dreamweaver
[01:25] <Cartas> Basically saying, "Sorry, I only found 1 Eth connection"
[01:25] <Cartas> Or something.
[01:25] <mneptok> devy: yes, reboot
[01:25] <valehru> gnomefreak, thanks
[01:25] <gnomefreak> valehru: yw
[01:25] <ori> well David it did install and It is working but now I have conflicting repo's for some reason even though i deleted all those listed before and then pasted those from that site
[01:25] <devy> mneptok,  :)
[01:25] <mneptok> nighty kids. thanks for using Ubuntu! :)
[01:26] <david83> ori, sorry to here that
[01:26] <david83> ori, but repositories and conflicting dependencies is not something i know about
[01:27] <tehstev> anybody know of a way to change the behavior of ctrl-left/right in text fields?
[01:28] <ori> ok david83, are you around later on in say 5-7 hours?
[01:29] <BlueEagle> tehstev: Which text fields are you talking about?
[01:30] <BlueEagle> tehstev: ie. do you want ctrl+arrow to skip the entire word left or right?
[01:30] <david83> ori, maybe why?
[01:30] <david83> ori, i said i can't help you fix your repository problem sorry
[01:30] <ori> I have to skidaddle (Heh what a word), but will be back then to let you know if its resolved and that
[01:31] <tehstev> BlueEagle: yah, by default it skips over too many characters
[01:31] <tehstev> BlueEagle: so i'm wondering if there is a setting somewhere to edit the list of non-word characters
[01:31] <beergutxl> Hi can anyone help me with a trash/wastebasket problem?
[01:32] <XiXaQ> beergutxl, just ask a question.
[01:32] <david83> ori, maybe see you around quere me if i am there bye have fun
[01:32] <airox> Hello.
[01:32] <ori> you too mate, btw just before i go, are the repo's i shown you on that site the same you have? because now i can download all the thigns i couldnt before
[01:33] <Piglet> hi , i'm new with Ubuntu . can anyone tell me if i can Share My Internet Connection on Ubuntu
[01:33] <anTiX_> hm the partitioner was a pain in dapper, hope it will work better in edgy...
[01:33] <airox> I'm using Ubuntu right now and am wanted to know if there is a way of opening files with the application that's normally used for it but as root.
[01:33] <beergutxl> For some reason my wastebasket applet does not applet to be using the same directory as nautillus is mmoving files too
[01:33] <airox> Right now the only way I can open files that I can't access is by using some console commands.
[01:33] <airox> I want something like: "Open as root"
[01:34] <beergutxl> sorry second applet should be appear
[01:34] <airox> Is there some nautilus script for it ?
[01:34] <airox> Ubuntu should do this by default imho.
[01:34] <XiXaQ> beergutxl,  why? Which version do you use?
[01:34] <david83> ori, it seem to me i have another distro (breezy) then you have but most off the universe and multiverse stuff was the same
[01:34] <devy> gnomefreak, well, when i reboot it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu and my login windows was with kubuntu icons but my desktop it's the same. sorry for my english.
[01:34] <anTiX_> airox, gksudo
[01:34] <timalot> airox: well ive got a "edit as root" nautilus script.... but i dont know about the file assoc... thing
[01:35] <beergutxl> Dapper this is the account made during installation from the text installer off the DVD
[01:35] <devy> gnomefreak, i don't want gnome anymore just I want to be like in that screen shot.
[01:35] <airox> Woulnd't it be a great idea that if the files aren't readable to place a gksudo nautilius script in between ?
[01:35] <airox> So someone can edit and maybe even browse the whole filesystem.
[01:35] <airox> Or open a file etc.
[01:36] <XiXaQ> beergutxl, what do you mean the thrash doesn't use the same folder as nautilus?
[01:36] <beergutxl> deleting in nautillus moves files to $HOME/.Trash
[01:36] <airox> timalot: That would be a self installed script I guess ?
[01:36] <beergutxl> Which has quite a bit in
[01:36] <beergutxl> the applet in gnome has no files in
[01:38] <timalot> airox: yes... i found the command now... if u use the command gnome-open <file> then it will open it withe the associated program ... use this with gksudo ... to do what u want
[01:38] <ori> bye guyes
[01:38] <ori> and thanks again david83 talk later on ;)
[01:38] <airox> timalot: Exactly.
[01:38] <airox> It would be nice to put a gksudo gnome-open on every file or folder that isn't readable.
[01:38] <airox> So users CAN browse and edit.
[01:39] <airox> I wonder how much work this would be.
[01:39] <airox> Sounds like a small script :)
[01:39] <devy> gnomefreak, still there?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> devy: not really there a problem about 6 miles from me and im waiting for them to evacuate me
[01:39] <timalot> airox: just use a nuatilus script....
[01:40] <frogzoo> is there a way to stop the 'nohup' creating nohup.out ?
[01:40] <devy> gnomefreak, you didn't saw that link?
[01:40] <adis_j> could anyone help me?  I have trouble with my sound card
[01:40] <adis_j> i tryed everything, but it didn't worked
[01:40] <gnomefreak> no im not paying attention to IRC right now
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, 1 minute please.
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, i don't want gnome anymore just I want to be like in that screen shot. http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.3/snapshot13.png
[01:41] <devy> gnomefreak, well, when i reboot it says kubuntu instead of ubuntu and my login windows was with kubuntu icons but my desktop it's the same. sorry for my english.
[01:41] <jrib> frogzoo: redirect the output to /dev/null
[01:42] <gnomefreak> devy: your loggin into gnome cllick sessions than click kde than log in
[01:42] <gnomefreak> im sorry im gone
[01:42] <Fackamato> how do I choose what the default resolution for X should be?
[01:42] <frogzoo> jrib: gosh, I feel sheepish, thx
[01:42] <Fackamato> i.e. the resolution GDM use
[01:42] <Fackamato> s
[01:43] <Fackamato> it always uses the highest it can from xorg.conf, I don't want that..
[01:43] <frogzoo> Fackamato: preferences -> resolution
[01:43] <Fackamato> does not c hange GDM resolution :\
[01:43] <david83> Fackamato, or change in the xorg.conf?
[01:43] <Fackamato> yeah, but how?
[01:44] <anTiX_> Fackamato, try ctrl+alt+ +/-
[01:44] <Fackamato> anTiX_, when I've got my resolution I want in GDM, will it be the default after that?
[01:44] <Fackamato> aha
[01:44] <david83> Fackamato, vi /../xorg.conf  search for the linies with the resolution and put a # on the ones with the high resolution you don't want
[01:44] <Fackamato> the left-most resolution in xorg is used first.
[01:45] <anTiX_> Fackamato, ok. doesn't the Screen Resolution preferences item set the default?
[01:45] <Fackamato> not for GDM it doesn't (afaik)
[01:45] <anTiX_> ok
[01:45] <Fackamato> just for the user's desktop
[01:46] <highneko> The maximum resolution I can get on ubuntu is 1024x768. Is it possible to make it better?
[01:46] <flake> oh man, sorry for offtopic, but am running the bf2142 demo
[01:48] <apokryphos> highneko: please check the faq
[01:48] <anTiX_> highneko, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <beergut> sorry my router crashed was beergutxl
[01:50] <Seveas> hello. splitters
[01:50] <Seveas> Please stay with us this time ;)
[01:51] <EinZteiN> haha
[01:51] <rixth> Wow, that was  apretty big spliet...
[01:54] <Cartas> I followed this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.29
[01:54] <Cartas> Yet I still can't get my internet to work!
[01:58] <Belboz99> Hey all, when did the compiz repo's break?
[02:03] <highneko> I can't get my resolution to change. I ran a program and setup everything, It said I could have better resolution, but nothing has changed. Any ideas?
[02:04] <jrib> highneko: system > preferences > screen resolution  not working?
[02:04] <highneko> Nope, same res ;(
[02:04] <tabman> I have a directory which has multiple jar files, I want to add the full directory into my CLASSPATH, how can I do that ?
[02:04] <highneko> I picked a higher resolution I thought. Maby I didn't do it right.
[02:04] <yallax> highneko: what graphic card do you have? and have you installed any drivers?
[02:04] <highneko> intel, no.
[02:05] <yallax> tried to change the xorg.conf?
[02:05] <highneko> I looked at it! Don't know what to change. I've had to restore that file a few times, and dont' wanna do it again!
[02:06] <Daverocks> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 on a desktop a couple of years old, but i can't get past the first steps
[02:06] <Daverocks> it hangs at "mounting root file system" for about a minute, then drops me to an ash shell
[02:06] <tabman> Daverocks: your hardware specs might be low
[02:07] <Daverocks> tabman: they're pretty decent... it's a 2.8 GHz celeron with 512 MB RAM, 40 GB hdd, and i think the FSB is also reasonable
[02:08] <tabman> Daverocks: you mentioned couple of years old thats why I thought, but I'm currently running Ubuntu with the same specs as yorus
[02:08] <yallax> etc/X11/xorg.conf  just look for "section screen" beneeth that is the diffrent resolutions you can have with each colour option
[02:08] <yallax> what does that say? what resolutions are they?
[02:09] <Daverocks> if it helps, there's a file called casper.log in the root filesystem which says, about 20 times "mount: mounting device /dev/hdc on /cdrom failed: Invalid argument" or something like that
[02:09] <highneko> yallax: It has always said Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:09] <bz0b> what is the command to see how much video memory i have
[02:10] <bz0b> what is the command to see how much video memory i have
[02:10] <koko> dmesg
[02:10] <koko> :)
[02:10] <david83> ;)
[02:10] <bz0b> thx
[02:11] <dtygel> hi people: can someone help me setting up sound for recording? I cannot make the mic work... is there any "automatic" setting?
[02:11] <davidmacintosh> oi. can't uninstall ggz-gtk-games (was looking for a decent chess gui)
[02:11] <yallax> highneko: then we can add some more there..sec
[02:11] <davidmacintosh> anyone have ideas on how I'd go about tracking down the conflict?  (error code 255)
[02:11] <Dinho> ciao
[02:11] <Dinho> sono un nuovo utente
[02:11] <jrib> !it
[02:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:11] <Daverocks> i've tried almost every boot option, but it _always_ freezes at "mounting root file system", which is basically the second thing the install does.
[02:12] <jrib> Daverocks: can you pastebin the output you get with 'sudo apt-get install ggz-gtk-games'?
[02:12] <jrib> davidmacintosh: can you pastebin the output you get with 'sudo apt-get install ggz-gtk-games'?
[02:12] <Daverocks> jrib: wrong person xD
[02:12] <highneko> yallax: I've tryed google, asking ubotu, and adept! Can't do it yet. x_x
[02:13] <jrib> Daverocks: have you tried the alternate cd?  Also, are you burning this cd at higher than 4x?
[02:13] <BuZzY> i have installed lame (by apt-get) but is not latest version, how can i get it to latest one?
[02:13] <jrib> !latest
[02:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok.  I think, I'll better make a coffe :D
[02:13] <yallax> highneko:  Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  just add "1280x1024" on every line
[02:14] <Daverocks> jrib: it's actually a DVD from a magazine
[02:14] <highneko> yallax: I'll try that. Thnx. ;)
[02:14] <dtygel> folks: any help for configuring audio capturing?
[02:14] <Daverocks> jrib: i don't think it's the boot media that's the problem
[02:14] <jrib> BuZzY: you have to consider if you really need the latest version.  Because in dapper, you will only have what was available when Dapper was created.  If you have a pressing need for the latest lame then you are going to have to compile it
[02:14] <jrib> Daverocks: try the alternate cd though
[02:14] <yallax> highneko: in console do: go to X11 dir and then do: gedit xorg.conf
[02:15] <dtygel> when I try to record no matter what, I get a message that says that my audio capturing isn't configured properly.
[02:15] <dtygel> How can I diagnose the problem and solve it?
[02:15] <Daverocks> jrib: hm, that means downloading :(
[02:15] <BuZzY> jrib, so i can use the older onesafely?
[02:15] <marianet> i have problems with totem coders
[02:16] <marianet> some one knows what codecs do i have toinstall to listen mp3 and .mov
[02:16] <koko> mp3 on totem?
[02:16] <dtygel> marianet: try http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:16] <marianet> yea?
[02:16] <jrib> BuZzY: of course, if it does everything you need it to, then there's no reason to waste time compiling and getting headaches
[02:16] <jrib> ubotu: tell marianet about mp3
[02:16] <BuZzY> hehe
[02:16] <highneko> My resolution is really good now. Thanks alot. ;)
[02:16] <marianet> what?
[02:17] <koko> marianet: http://www.google.lv/search?q=mp3+support+site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[02:17] <jrib> marianet: check your private messages from ubotu
[02:17] <Dimensions> hiya .... what should be my apache2.conf setting for user and group where my default user is known as filter ?
[02:17] <valehru> Hey guys, im running dapper..is there a way I can have multiple audio programs accessing the sound card at the same time?  currently skype/beep/mplayer don't work alongside each other
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell me about flash
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell koko about flash on amd64
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash on amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <koko> ubotu: tell koko about flash with firefox on 64bit
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash with firefox on 64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <yallax> glad i could help highneko :d
[02:19] <koko> ubotu: learn more about ubuntu in help.ubuntu.com :)
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about learn more about ubuntu in help.ubuntu.com :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <dtygel> how can I detect why my audio capture config is wrong?
[02:20] <davidmacintosh> jrib: sorry for the delay...  pastebin is hanging on me
[02:20] <jrib> davidmacintosh: yeah, use pastebin.ca or paste.ubuntu-nl.org, pastebin.com is always slow
[02:21] <jrib> koko: I think the page he links you to with "flash", mentions amd64
[02:21] <dtygel> when I go to "record" application, a message says my audio capturing is misconfigured. How to diagnoes?
[02:21] <dtygel> (diagnose)
[02:21] <koko> :)
[02:21] <sonium> does anybody know how to auto-identify on freenode using x-chat?
[02:22] <oxbat> hello
[02:22] <david83> hi
[02:22] <oxbat> where are you from
[02:22] <timalot> from the ether
[02:22] <Daverocks> sonium: as in, with a nickserv password?
[02:22] <wrabbit^> sonium, under xchat - network list - edit
[02:22] <dtygel> no help for my record sound problem?
[02:22] <jrib> oxbat: #ubuntu is for ubuntu support, but there is #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[02:22] <wrabbit^> Then just put in your password
[02:22] <oxbat> ok
[02:23] <oxbat> i know
[02:23] <Daverocks> sonium: what wrabbit^ said =)
[02:23] <sonium> I have the gnome-version
[02:23] <davidmacintosh> jrib: there is nothing interesting in the install, but here is the remove output http://pastebin.ca/192973
[02:23] <sonium> there is no menu entry like this
[02:23] <jrib> davidmacintosh: oh I misread what you said as install :)
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> sonium, do you see help ?
[02:24] <oxbat> anyone who does well in BASH programing?
[02:24] <davidmacintosh> jrib: I figured
[02:24] <wrabbit^> although I am a little confused about how to list channels to join...  I've put #ubuntu, #python, #ubuntu-offtopic but it only opens #ubuntu
[02:24] <sonium> yes
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> oxbat, #bash
[02:24] <davidmacintosh> :)
[02:24] <wickedpuppy> sonium, whats beside that ?
[02:24] <wrabbit^> anybody know? - doesn't work either
[02:24] <koko> wrabbit^: /join #channel?
[02:24] <timalot> oxbat: what u wanna know about bash?
[02:24] <sonium> IRC, Edit, Network, Discussion, Go To, Help
[02:25] <Dimensions> any one here to help regarding apache ?
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> sonium, are you using xchat ?
[02:25] <sonium> yes
[02:25] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions:  what's the problem?
[02:25] <wrabbit^> koko, I know how to join a channel :) but I'd like xchat to enter all those channels automatically when I join freenode
[02:25] <sonium> wickedpuppy: the ubuntu supported version
[02:25] <wickedpuppy> sonium, whats your xchat version ?
[02:25] <oxbat> everything if it is need,
[02:25] <timalot> oxbat: man bash
[02:25] <sonium> mom.. have to ask synaptic
[02:25] <koko> wrabbit^: can't help you :) I'm using irssi
[02:25] <sonium> XChat-GNOME 0.13
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> sonium, go to help and about
[02:26] <yaman> do any one know a program i can use like frontpage but on the ubuntu ?
[02:26] <davidmacintosh> yaman:   nvu
[02:26] <sonium> XChat-GNOME 0.13 is what help->about says
[02:26] <koko> yaman: gedit :)
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> sonium, its just a front-end
[02:26] <yaman> ah thanks koko and davidmacintosh i think this what i need
[02:26] <wickedpuppy> how did you join this network ?
[02:27] <jrib> davidmacintosh: here's the relevant bug on debian about it http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=388273 (seems it is explained how to "fix" it)
[02:27] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh:  ... i have had apache 1.3 installed i removed it its folder was still therei did sudo rm -R /etc/apache and i only have apache2 there now ... but when i open a .php file ... i get Dialogue box open with .... and then if i click open it repeats the same Else displays page not found and at bottom saying apache\1.3 ... if i restart apache it fails ...
[02:27] <koko> yaman: it is a text editor:) Simple learn how to use html tags :)
[02:27] <sonium> IRC-> connect gives a list of networks, but without a configuration method
[02:27] <davidmacintosh> jrib: cheers
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> sonium, then why use it ? ask the devs pls ... if you need help with xchat pls ask here ..
[02:28] <sonium> hrm... I know how it worked in the old xchat.. just thought you could help me with the official supported one
[02:28] <yaman> koko : i need some thing more easyer i can't make a real site using text editor :P
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <wrabbit^> yama, screem?
[02:28] <koko> yaman: I can, so you can either
[02:28] <koko> :)
[02:28] <wrabbit^> yaman, ^^
[02:28] <BuZzY> how can i get the codec of an audi o file?
[02:28] <timalot> buzzy: file <file>
[02:28] <oxbat> wrong
[02:28] <timalot> gives u the format atleast
[02:29] <yaman> aha i think you know linux better than me  :P so you use this things :P
[02:29] <yaman> wrabbit : thank you also
[02:29] <wrabbit^> yaman, what are you looking for?
[02:29] <wrabbit^> I missed the question hehe
[02:29] <BuZzY> timalot,  it does not say codec infos
[02:29] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh: ?
[02:29] <yaman> wrabbit :some thing like frontpage
[02:29] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: have you tried just backing up and uninstalling everything 'apache' ?  manually if necessary...   then clean install apache2
[02:30] <koko> yaman: http://dot.kde.org/999051134/999081618/999082255/
[02:30] <elkbuntu> yama, NVU
[02:30] <yaman> wrabbit :i mean i don't want it just text editing need
[02:30] <elkbuntu> err
[02:30] <elkbuntu> yaman, see above
[02:30] <Dimensions> how do i remove apache2 davidmacintosh to reinstall it ?
[02:30] <koko> use google and you'll find anythign you want :)
[02:30] <Dimensions> with sudo apt-get remove apache2 ?
[02:30] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some help how to make help about the IRC grammer
[02:30] <wrabbit^> yaman,: yeah nvu
[02:30] <davidmacintosh> yes
[02:30] <oxbat> anyone who can give me some help how to make help about the IRC grammer
[02:30] <yaman> ah thanx every one too many answers alot of good ppl here :)
[02:31] <davidmacintosh> try opening up symantic package manager and searching for apache...
[02:31] <Tabias> is there a way I can mount my IDE hd (ntfs with files on it) (I tried the guide but didn't work don't got the permission to access it). I installed win xp first, then ubuntu (both without IDE drive (on SATA). After that I plugged IDE drive in but I can't access it in ubuntu
[02:31] <Dimensions> ummm..
[02:31] <davidmacintosh> (assuming you're running gnome)
[02:31] <wrabbit^> or sudo apt-cach search apach
[02:31] <wrabbit^> e
[02:31] <timalot> Tabias: writing ntfs from linux is dodgey
[02:31] <Tabias> don't want to write it, just read it
[02:32] <Tabias> all my music is on that disk :)
[02:32] <timalot> Tabias: mount /dev/hda1 /mnt ?
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oxbat: just watch the room for a while :)
[02:32] <rudiz> hi
[02:32] <Paddy_EIRE> oxbat: normally just english
[02:33] <Tabias> tried the /mount
[02:33] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: forgot to explicitly direct the above comments to you... did you get that?  (synaptic = symantic)
[02:33] <davidmacintosh> or the other way around
[02:33] <Tabias> I can access the hd of ubuntu (a SATA hd) (which contains ntfs partitions as well) but not the ide, seems strange
[02:34] <Terminus> Tabias: try mount -o umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /mnt/point
[02:34] <koko> Tabias: tried /dev/dha[b|c|d|e
[02:34] <koko> ?
[02:34] <koko> sorre hda
[02:34] <Dimensions> yeah davidmacintosh i got it ... thanks ... they are being removed ...
[02:34] <Terminus> Tabias: don't forget to create the /mnt/point directory first. =)
[02:34] <Tabias> when I go to administration -> disk manager I see the hd (hdb) with partition hdb5 and access point /tmp/disks-conf-hdb5
[02:35] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: fingers crossed  :)
[02:35] <koko> Tabias: you nead to remove it from /etc/mtab
[02:35] <koko> and add to /etc/fstab
[02:35] <flake> everytime i boot my laptop i have to go to system/networking/ and reconnect the wireless eth1 connection, it says 'Activating eth1' and after a few seconds, it is connected.  How can I do that manually?
[02:35] <Tabias> sounds simple (2hours into ubuntu (even linux)
[02:35] <koko> at least I do so :) I am newbie in ubuntu :)
[02:36] <ghostshadow189> hi all i've a problem that i can listen to music from cd music but i cant listen to music from music files ?
[02:36] <Tabias> how do I do that koko ?
[02:36] <koko> sudo nano /etc/mtab
[02:36] <koko> find line with /dev/hdb5
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> ghostshadow189: what format are the files
[02:36] <koko> ctrl+k
[02:36] <ghostshadow189> mp3 , wma ...
[02:36] <koko> ctrl+x ->y ->enter
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !restricted
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:37] <timalot> ghostshadow189: have u checked the pcm volume in the volume control
[02:37] <onorin> msg nickserv IDENTIFY karm@nt0r
[02:37] <oxbat> timalot,may i chat with you private
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ghostshadow189: follow the link ubotu gave on multimedia issues
[02:37] <ghostshadow189> yes sure
[02:37] <onorin> oops
[02:37] <Tabias> k done so
[02:37] <timalot> oxbat: why?
[02:38] <oxbat> because you say here we can't chat
[02:38] <koko> Tabias: next... it is ntfs partition?
[02:39] <Tabias> yes it's ntfs
[02:39] <koko> ok... you made mount point?
[02:39] <timalot> oxbat: ask me a question and if i know ill respond here.... and everyone can benefit from my wisdom :)
[02:39] <Tabias> euhm, no Idea actually (possibly by following the tutorial)
[02:40] <koko> mkdir /mnt/myntfspartition
[02:40] <koko> :)
[02:40] <valehru> how can I create a shortcut to a directory on the desktop?
[02:40] <koko> sudo in front of it
[02:40] <Tabias> done
[02:40] <koko> Tabias: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:41] <koko> and add line /dev/hdb5 /mnt/myntfspartition ntfs noauto 0 0
[02:41] <koko> I think it might work :)
[02:41] <onorin> valehro, right click to the directory and create a link
[02:41] <koko> maybe not :)
[02:41] <onorin> valehru, then cut and past the link to the desktop
[02:41] <koko> I forgot all options
[02:41] <Tabias> will just copy options from the other ntfs partitions?
[02:42] <dalik> I have a few things that I would like advice on, one I installed openLDAP and I was able to authenticate fine, but I found that I wasn't able to sudo anymore.  So trying to run "sudo gedit" then type in my password as normal failed and didnt launch the application.  Any ideas?
[02:42] <Dimensions> to install apache2 which one of these i should be installing ...  1 apache2-mpm-perchild OR ... apache2-mpm-prefork OR .... apache2-mpm-worker AND ... apache2-prefork-dev OR .... apache2-threaded-dev ??
[02:42] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyway of recording a last.fm stream using amarok
[02:42] <oxbat> hey,can you speak more interesting words,at least a bit more hard!
[02:42] <koko> Tabias: that woold be best option
[02:43] <koko> onorin: open terminal. then ln -s /your/directory ~/Desktop/linkname
[02:43] <timalot> ive got apache2-mpm-prefork ...
[02:43] <oxbat> bye
[02:43] <koko> Tabias: when you do that, then try sudo mount -a
[02:43] <davidmacintosh> jrib: that fixed it... that's a very easy problem to fix in the .deb (simple mkdir on install) but rather critical in terms of "breaking" the packaging system -- how does one go about registering a bug on launchpad? (wouldn't want to be redundant of course)
[02:43] <timalot> oxbat: later
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, make link is greyed out when I right click on it....the folder is /var/www/
[02:44] <oxbat> the same
[02:44] <Tabias> do I need to reboot?
[02:44] <koko> no
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, i tried sudo chown username /var/www/
[02:44] <oxbat> tell me where are yu from,timalot,beg you!
[02:44] <jrib> davidmacintosh: bugs.ubuntu.com will take you to the right page, then just register, and add a new bug to that package.  It would be great if you could link the bug to the debian bug upstream as well
[02:44] <valehru> onorin, but its still greyed out
[02:44] <Tabias> strange, can't find the partition anywhere
[02:44] <koko> maybe you need to do sudo umount /dev/hdb5
[02:44] <timalot> oxbat: i am from New Zealand.... happy?
[02:44] <koko> and then again sudo mount -a
[02:44] <oxbat> haha yes
[02:44] <davidmacintosh> jrib: will do. thanks for the help
[02:45] <jrib> davidmacintosh: np
[02:45] <Tabias> it's says dev/hdb5 can't be found
[02:45] <oxbat> bye ,I won't forget you .timalot
[02:45] <Dimensions> davidmacintosh:  any idea ?
[02:45] <timalot> hahaha
[02:45] <koko> Tabias: /dev/hdb not dev/hdb
[02:45] <Tabias> well yeah, /dev/hdb5
[02:45] <onorin> valerhu
[02:45] <koko> soree - /dev/hdb5
[02:46] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: sorry, I missed your comment
[02:46] <Tabias> it can't find it
[02:46] <koko> it can't be
[02:46] <Dimensions> With apache2, which one of these i should be installing ...  1 apache2-mpm-perchild OR ... apache2-mpm-prefork OR .... apache2-mpm-worker AND ... apache2-prefork-dev OR .... apache2-threaded-dev ??
[02:46] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: just apache2
[02:46] <onorin> valehru, from console  sudo  ln -s /var/www ~/Desktop/linkname
[02:46] <koko> onorin: why sudo?
[02:47] <koko> it is his desktop
[02:47] <timalot> Dimensions: ithink the prefork ... means it uses processes to handle requests... rather that threads,,, in one process
[02:47] <koko> he can do there anything he want :)
[02:47] <onorin> koko, well I am not sure. May be  /var/www has no permission
[02:48] <timalot> Dimensions: fork is the way apache 1.3 works... the most common probably
[02:48] <onorin> koko, it may be redundant I just wanted to ensure
[02:48] <koko> hehe... ok :)
[02:48] <SeanTater_> How would I backup my computer in a way that I could restore everything about my computer later?
[02:48] <davidmacintosh> Dimensions: if you just select apache2, your base dependencies will by automatically selected.
[02:48] <Tabias> goddamned, ubuntu work with me here :@
[02:48] <jrib> !backup
[02:48] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[02:48] <SeanTater> jrib: thanks
[02:48] <dalik> I installed openLDAP and I was able to authenticate fine, but I found that I wasn't able to sudo anymore.  So trying to run "sudo gedit" then type in my password as normal failed and didnt launch the application.  Any ideas?
[02:49] <valehru> onorin, that works perfectly
[02:49] <valehru> thanks
[02:49] <koko> ok - I'll get to work, I suppose :)
[02:49] <valehru> don't know why it was greyed out on /var/www/  even though I thought I had the proper permissions for my user
[02:49] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i've tried to install w32codecs and kaffeine player , but i still cant play my .mp3
[02:50] <onorin> valehru, it is probably a permission thing but  I don't know
[02:50] <Tabias> damn he's away
[02:50] <nobody_lv> Tabias: ok...
[02:50] <Tabias> in the disks manager the drive stands as inaccessable
[02:50] <valehru> onorin, ok...well thanks for your help
[02:50] <THX-1138> ghostshadow189: ffmpeg
[02:51] <davidmacintosh> SeanTater_: rsync is incredibly powerful, but it is far removed from something like "Norton Ghost"; a drive image isn't necessarily the way to go for a linux desktop
[02:51] <nobody_lv> Tabias: that's good :)
[02:51] <ghostshadow189> install it ?
[02:51] <onorin> valehru, one last thing , you may try this as well : sudo gksudo nautilus
[02:51] <Tabias> now I have to mount it again?
[02:51] <onorin> no
[02:51] <onorin> valehru, correcting gksudo nautilus
[02:51] <nobody_lv> Tabias: try ls /mnt/myntfspartition
[02:51] <DeeTahPanLtah> is my dsn messed up or us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[02:51] <THX-1138> davidmacintosh: Disk images restore the system more quickly.
[02:51] <DeeTahPanLtah> could anyone check that?
[02:52] <ghostshadow189> THX-1138 : u mean that i must install it : sudo apt-get install ffmpeg ?
[02:52] <Tabias> mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /media/sdb5 busy
[02:52] <Tabias> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb5 is already mounted on /media/sdb5
[02:52] <valehru> onorin, opened up nautilus as root, now what?
[02:52] <Tabias> ls: /media/hdb5: No such file or directory
[02:52] <valehru> onorin, im looking at the permissions, the owner of /var/www/ is my user, and the group is root.
[02:52] <onorin> valehru, now that greyed thing should be enabled
[02:52] <nobody_lv> Tabias: close disk mannager
[02:52] <THX-1138> ghostshadow189: ffmpeg -s the base for a lot of plugins - find what matches your player.
[02:52] <nobody_lv> and then try to mount again
[02:53] <Tabias> disk manager is closed, still same messages
[02:53] <valehru> ahh...so it is
[02:53] <DeeTahPanLtah> is my dsn messed up or us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[02:53] <onorin> valehru, retry making a link via nautilus it should work
[02:53] <valehru> onorin, so it is, thanks
[02:53] <onorin> np
[02:53] <nobody_lv> Tabias: maybe some other programm uses that disk?
[02:53] <davidmacintosh> THX-1138: in the majority of cases, that's not true (in my experience); depending on how you've used rsync
[02:53] <valehru> onorin, yeah it works
[02:53] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: i can ping it
[02:54] <nobody_lv> you can try sudo umount -f /dev/hdb5
[02:54] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit,wtf then? ;<
[02:54] <davidmacintosh> THX-1138: it might be more straight forward; i'll give you that!  :)
[02:54] <Tabias> umount2: Invalid argument
[02:54] <Tabias> umount: /dev/hdb5: not mounted
[02:54] <Tabias> most possibly my computer just went ignored. One time saying it is mounted, the other saying it is not mounted
[02:55] <nobody_lv> Tabias: show the row you placed in fstab
[02:55] <DeeTahPanLtah> timalot: and can you telnet to 80 port?
[02:55] <Tabias> /dev/hdb5       /media/sdb5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   $
[02:55] <nobody_lv> naiss
[02:56] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: it connects to port 80..... u dont want me to speak http tho i hope
[02:56] <nobody_lv> Tabias: and now sudo mkdir /media/sdb5
[02:56] <ghostshadow189> THX-1138 : i typed like u said but :  ffmpeg : command not found
[02:56] <nobody_lv> Tabias: and then sudo mount -a
[02:56] <DeeTahPanLtah> timalot: thanks,it's some fault here then.
[02:56] <Tabias>  /media/sdb5 is already made (can find the folder)
[02:56] <timalot> thats strange us.archive.ubuntu.com maps to alpaca-ii.it.anl.gov ... a US government site.... hmmmm
[02:57] <DeeTahPanLtah> hacked?
[02:57] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;D
[02:57] <mthakur> hello
[02:57] <nobody_lv> Tabias: sudo mount -a
[02:57] <Tabias> mount: /dev/hdb5 already mounted or /media/sdb5 busy
[02:57] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me?
[02:57] <onorin> NTFS! try ntfs3g it enables to write to your windows partition
[02:57] <Tabias> don't need to write, just read
[02:57] <timalot> DeeTahPanLtah: maybe :)
[02:57] <nobody_lv> Tabias: maybe reboot PC :)
[02:58] <Tabias> will try that ^
[02:58] <onorin> Tabias, have you searched forums
[02:58] <onorin> too late
[02:58] <nobody_lv> nja... I dindnt understand if he removed that line from mtab :D
[02:58] <mthakur> can anyone tell me how to read ntfs via linux?
[02:59] <nobody_lv> and sorre for my English :)
[02:59] <nobody_lv> mthakur: mount it :)
[02:59] <mthakur> how?
[02:59] <DeeTahPanLtah> mthakur: edit /etc/fstab as root
[02:59] <nobody_lv> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/yourntfsdevice /mount/point
[02:59] <mthakur> then can i read ntfs without restarting?
[02:59] <nobody_lv> mthakur: of course
[03:00] <nobody_lv> it's linux beauty
[03:00] <nobody_lv> :)
[03:00] <mthakur> nobody_lv: thanks every1
[03:00] <mthakur> :D
[03:00] <nobody_lv> :)
[03:00] <onorin> nobody_lv,  instead forward people to forums
[03:00] <onorin> mthakur, there are a lot of posts on this in forums
[03:00] <nobody_lv> ok ok ok - I need to work :D
[03:00] <mthakur> onorin: which one?
[03:01] <onorin> mthakur, ubuntuforums.org
[03:01] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me? I've tried the wiki + forums to no avail :(
[03:01] <mthakur> onorin: thanks
[03:01] <Tabias> it's fixed with reboot
[03:01] <Tabias> tnx nobody_lv
[03:01] <nobody_lv> Tabias: no problems :)
[03:01] <onorin> wayney, #linux might be more helpful
[03:02] <wayney> onorin : ok
[03:04] <WooD> Hi !
[03:04] <WooD> Any of you know how to obtain and install Gaim 2.0 on Ubuntu ?
[03:04] <THX-1138>  onorin - find them the answer wherever it is. - If we are helpful they will be back.
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I go about burning an audio cd that would play in most cd players in amarok, most of the music in my collection was converted to mp3 at some point or other
[03:05] <onorin> THX-1138, may be but on the other hand, if we could reduce the traffic in here, IRC could be a more efficient place for unsolved problems
[03:05] <webben> WooD: I suspect it's probably not worth it.
[03:06] <webben> WooD, but if I needed to do that
[03:06] <webben> WooD, i would apt-get install checkinstall
[03:06] <webben> apt-get remove gaim*
[03:06] <webben> and then pull down the source code,  untar it, make, the checkinstall
[03:07] <onorin> besides, support in forums is superior compared to IRC in depth-wise
[03:07] <webben> WooD, it's also possible there may be unofficial packages around
[03:07] <webben> onorin: reduce the traffic how?
[03:08] <webben> onorin: what's the point of this channel if we just forward people to forums
[03:08] <onorin> webben, if people first seek the answers in forums then come to IRC, the traffic would be reduced.
[03:08] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i can play .ogg file but cant play .mp3 file
[03:08] <webben> onorin: well, it's a good idea to search the forums
[03:08] <jrib> ubotu: tell ghostshadow189 about mp3
[03:08] <Ash-Fox> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <webben> onorin: although sometimes searching requires navigating past a captcha which is less than user-friendly
[03:09] <onorin> webben, the point is , sometimes you couldn't find  what you need in forums. Second, online help is superior to posted forums for tricky things
[03:09] <robertj> hey all. Does anyone know if Dapper will work on a Mac Pro?
[03:09] <webben> onorin: yes ... i'm not sure we disagree then
[03:09] <webben> onorin: although just atm the search function is down
[03:09] <onorin> I am not authority here. it was just my 2 cents
[03:10] <ghostshadow189> ubotu : i read it , and then i install 32codecs , but it didnt work , i still couldnt play .mp3 files
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i read it , and then i install 32codecs , but it didnt work , i still couldnt play .mp3 files - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <onorin> webben, true , but that guy had never heard of the forums even.
[03:10] <Seveas> ghostshadow189, ubotu is a bot
[03:10] <Tabias> try using xmms (don't have any problem with it and no codec installed I think)
[03:11] <nobody_lv> Amarok is the best player ever
[03:11] <webben> onorin: it would be good to include a reference to the forums in the topic
[03:12] <onorin> yeah ok let me put it :)
[03:12] <Negative_Infinit>  can someone tell me how i can write fractions in openoffice writer?
[03:12] <Negative_Infinit> i mean 2/4 1/2 etc.
[03:12] <CromagDK> !spreadsheet
[03:12] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, do you need it like in Maths or as symbol
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spreadsheet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Tabias> is there a way to get wine to work on a 64-bit ubuntu?
[03:13] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, you could use openoffice  Math
[03:13] <nobody_lv> Tabias: today I did it :)
[03:13] <nobody_lv> it is simple
[03:13] <webben> Negative_Infinit, the more common everyday fractions often are in unicode
[03:13] <Tabias> I'm listening
[03:13] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, or you could search it in unicode characters
[03:13] <mjr> Tabias, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[03:14] <Negative_Infinit> yeah, but special fractions, like 256/512 etc.
[03:14] <nobody_lv> Tabias: one moment
[03:14] <onorin> Negative_Infinit, only way is Openoffice Math
[03:14] <ClayG> anyone get a hp laserjet to work with ubuntu?
[03:14] <Negative_Infinit> ok ill try that one thanks
[03:14] <lala> Buenas
[03:14] <nobody_lv> Tabias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 <- it worked fine to me
[03:14] <M_A_K> How do I prevent a user from playing the games that are installed with ubuntu while letting others play them?
[03:14] <valehru> Anyone know what version of wordpress is in the ubuntu repos?
[03:15] <nobody_lv> M_A_K: remove that user from games group
[03:15] <jrib> !info wordpress
[03:15] <ubotu> wordpress: an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2 (dapper), package size 490 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:15] <rasta_ubuntu> anyone know about the new ubuntu distro release
[03:15] <lala> Tengo una duda... Estoy aprendiendo a configurar el iptables.. habilit la entrada para el ssh... pero aveces cuando me conecto me tira que el host no responde... y aveces si se conecta... que puede ser ??
[03:15] <valehru> jrib, thanks
[03:15] <M_A_K> There are no users in that group when I open the /etc/group file.  That was my first thought.
[03:16] <jrib> rage: it's still being developed
[03:16] <nobody_lv> nja... M_A_K I am new in ubuntu...
[03:16] <chamo> hello
[03:17] <jrib> M_A_K: all of the stuff is executable by everyone, so you'll probably need to not let everyone execute it, and then setup groups
[03:17] <M_A_K> Does anybody else know how to prevent one user from playing the games while allowing others?  There are no users in the games group in /etc/group.
[03:17] <Tabias> looks neat, installing
[03:17] <M_A_K> Ok, that sounds doable.
[03:17] <lala> I've created a new user in ubuntu.. how can i do to block access to all directories but his home?
[03:18] <valehru> umm...I did sudo apt-get install wordpress, there doesnt seem to be a wordpress directory in my webserver directory.  Any suggestions?
[03:18] <fsmw> Hi all, i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:18] <lala> valehru $ locate wordpress
[03:19] <valehru> np, found it here /etc/wordpress
[03:19] <Tabias> nobody_lv:  normally I can now play .exe files (but I'm obviously not) tried the installation script (worked well I suppose).
[03:19] <alexanderturner> I need a developer to please talk to me at irc.turnerzworld.com
[03:19] <alexanderturner> #turnerzworld.
[03:19] <alexanderturner> please
[03:20] <onorin> lala I am no expert of this but , the only way come to my mind is to create a new group and add all permissioned users to that group, and change all persmissions of all directories as only that group could read them
[03:20] <florizs1984> @lala I don't really know if its possible because you need to excecute commands in /usr/bin
[03:20] <fsmw> Hi all, i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:20] <alexanderturner> please
[03:20] <njan> alexanderturner, if you have a technical question, you'll have far more luck joining the right technical channel (developer? for which language/platform?) and just posing the problem.
[03:20] <alexanderturner> irc.turnerzworld.com
[03:20] <valehru> Anyone know when the forums will be back online?
[03:20] <alexanderturner> njan, sorry what was that?
[03:21] <njan> alexanderturner, nobody's going to join your IRC server on a whim because you've asked for "a developer" to help you with an unnamed technical issue.
[03:21] <alexanderturner> I need some help with the ubuntu installer
[03:21] <njan> alexanderturner, ok, so tell us what the problem is. If someone can help, they will.
[03:21] <lala> florizs1984 onorin but for eg. I dont want this user to see my /etc/init.d config... or my /root ..
[03:21] <alexanderturner> ok, I would like to modify ubuntu to make it kid friendly
[03:22] <alexanderturner> how can i make an installer that would boot from cd
[03:22] <florizs1984> @lala i get it there is a technique called jailing but i believe it's for ftp only
[03:22] <alexanderturner> ?
[03:22] <fsmw>  i got a Broadcom GB NETX Ethernet card on a dell poweredge 2950, but dapper doesn't recognize it, does somebody know how to install this nic ?
[03:22] <onorin> lala, remove the permission for group
[03:23] <onorin> and others
[03:23] <jrib> ubotu: tell alexanderturner about customlivecd
[03:23] <lala> onorin in all the / directory ?
[03:23] <jrib> alexanderturner: are you aware of edubuntu as well?
[03:23] <alexanderturner> ok
[03:23] <alexanderturner> yes
[03:23] <onorin> lala, which directories do you want to restrict ?
[03:23] <alexanderturner> im am looking to make something else
[03:23] <jrib> k
[03:23] <alexanderturner> please call me alex
[03:23] <Nick_> Hi all. Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's as tho it's bridged.
[03:24] <lala> onorin dont really know... i dont want this user to have access to important files or configs... just for security
[03:24] <Negative_Infinit> in OOo writer, im thinking on how to make my own custom numbering, with numbers beginning with ___ before showing the number. ex. ____ 1.  Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[03:24] <florizs1984> @lala I have a post on linuxquestions.org for you concerning the problem
[03:24] <Negative_Infinit> how do i do that?
[03:24] <florizs1984> @lala http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443853
[03:24] <lala> florizs1984 thanks ! =)
[03:24] <alexanderturner> hmm
[03:24] <kmaynard> Negative_Infinit, have you checked google or the OOo site?
[03:24] <M_A_K> Are the games located in a separate directory somewhere or are they mixed in with everything else?
[03:24] <alexanderturner> just wondering, is it wrong to advertise on IRC
[03:24] <alexanderturner> kinda proud of my website
[03:24] <xipietotec> anyone know of a user friendly on disk encryption program which is dual linux/windows compatible?
[03:24] <onorin> lala, i think the default is secure enough, you have to specify what extra measures you require
[03:25] <alexanderturner> PGP is kewl
[03:25] <kmaynard> alexanderturner, if you have to ask, it prolly is
[03:25] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: it is here
[03:25] <Negative_Infinit> not yet
[03:25] <alexanderturner> jtholmes: sorry i didnt quite understand that?
[03:25] <Zaggynl> hi, can vfat be read under windows xp?
[03:25] <Negative_Infinit> w8
[03:25] <kmaynard> alexanderturner, to be clear, do not advertise
[03:26] <alexanderturner> ok
[03:26] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: you dont advertise here
[03:26] <kmaynard> clear?
[03:26] <alexanderturner> my appologies
[03:26] <florizs1984> damn, the ubuntuforums and digg.com down :S starts panicking
[03:26] <alexanderturner> yes
[03:26] <alexanderturner> very clear
[03:26] <kmaynard> do you have any ubuntu questions?
[03:26] <alexanderturner> me?
[03:26] <kmaynard> right this second there are 892 people here ready to help to the best of our ability
[03:27] <jtholmes> alexanderturner: there is no telling how much fire would rain down on you if you advertised here
[03:27] <kmaynard> lol flames
[03:27] <Nick_> Trying to setup NAT on my box but it's not natting the IP. It's forwarding the IP as tho it's bridged.
[03:27] <elkbuntu> non-ubuntu chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please people
[03:27] <njan> alexanderturner, you'll find most people consider it to be spam.
[03:27] <alexanderturner> mainly about the installer, which njam helped me with, cheers. ill probably just hang around, wait for someone to ask a network question...ive been working for cisco for 8 odd years
[03:28] <mthakur> how do you setup a wireless network?
[03:28] <alexanderturner> using what>
[03:28] <njan> alexanderturner, you might find ##security and/or ##networking better places to hang around.
[03:28] <jtholmes> !wireless
[03:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:28] <alexanderturner> Buffallo makes good equipment
[03:28] <njan> alexanderturner, freenode has a plethora of different channels :)
[03:28] <alexanderturner> so does linksys
[03:28] <alexanderturner> really easy to set up
[03:28] <alexanderturner> its pretty cool.
[03:28] <kmaynard> i think we're back on topic everyone :)
[03:28] <jtholmes> mthakur: !wireless > mthakur
[03:28] <alexanderturner> yes.
[03:29] <mthakur> thanks
[03:29] <lala> Other question.. i dont know why when some people do /dns irc.chatelsitio2.com.ar they see the <IP_ADDRESS> ip.. and other see the real one..<IP_ADDRESS> .. what could it be?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> lala, are you trying to set up a dns server?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> or website?
[03:30] <alexanderturner> dont worry
[03:31] <Ekinoks> j'aurais une petite question, sous linux, quel processeurs fonction le mieux ? AMD ou Intel ?
[03:32] <Nick_> I guess no one around know's the answer to my question :(
[03:32] <Ekinoks> oups, is not a french chat, sorry :^/