[11:05] <ivoks> freewoody well... the normal way?
[11:05] <ivoks> sure u can compile it
[11:05] <freewoody> Well make mrproper, followed by make xconfig
[11:05] <freewoody> make bzimage
[11:06] <ivoks> xconfig? and u don't have X?
[11:06] <nicedreams> freewoody: shouldn't he do it the debian way?
[11:06] <freewoody> What debian way ?
[11:06] <ivoks> freewoody make bzImage? come on... this is 2.6
[11:06] <ivoks> freewoody make menuconfig ; make ; make modules_install
[11:06] <nicedreams> to compile the kernel
[11:06] <nicedreams> from source
[11:07] <kellemelle> hallo mensen
[11:07] <nicedreams> look up in google "comiple kernel debian"
[11:07] <XplOzIon> how can i set those tools on my desktop? whats the app to put them? like this pic http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/1/9/scr3_original.jpg
[11:07] <freewoody> make mrproper, make menuconfig, make; make modules_install
[11:07] <ivoks> freewoody that's 2.4 way
[11:07] <freewoody> what about make bzImage
[11:07] <MyNameIsChris> make_kpkg is better
[11:08] <MyNameIsChris> _ = -
[11:08] <ivoks> freewoody make bzImage is 2.4 way
[11:08] <revelater> i have a slight problem with programs recognizing my cd drives...
[11:08] <ivoks> u don't need that anymore
[11:08] <nicedreams> old school
[11:08] <nicedreams> 2.4 way
[11:08] <freewoody> What is the Debian way for installing and compling a 2.6.11 kernel ?
[11:08] <ivoks> MyNameIsChris make-kpg, not _ :)
[11:08] <nicedreams> i have to find it again.  i don't remember off top my head
[11:08] <ivoks> oh.. u corrected, sorry :)
[11:09] <revelater> for some reason when i try to install a program it cannot read the fact that the cd is in the drive
[11:09] <nicedreams> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/index.php
[11:09] <MyNameIsChris> ivoks, I corrected myself
[11:09] <Goonie> ivoks~ sorry was away for a bit.. what should I be looking at in /var/log/syslog?
[11:09] <ivoks> MyNameIsChris <ivoks> oh.. u corrected, sorry :)
[11:09] <ivoks> Goonie errors :)
[11:09] <revelater> anyone help?
[11:09] <MyNameIsChris> ivoks, You're forgiven
[11:10] <revelater> ????
[11:10] <MyNameIsChris> revelater, Is it mounted?
[11:11] <revelater> no i am somehow running a program from a n unmounted disk... :(
[11:11] <revelater> sorry for the sarcasm
[11:11] <Jimmothy> can someone help me unzip a file from the commandline? i need to untar it to /usr/share/gtetrinet/themes
[11:11] <revelater> no offense
[11:11] <MyNameIsChris> revelater, Sorry for trying to help
[11:11] <ivoks> jesus...
[11:12] <ivoks> too much noobs :)
[11:12] <freewoody> So how do I install a new Kernel the Ubuntu way ?
[11:12] <Goonie> ivoks~ dunno if you would call these errors?
[11:12] <Goonie> Apr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[11:12] <Goonie> Apr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 776
[11:12] <Goonie> Apr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: Bind socket to interface: No such device
[11:12] <ivoks> freewoody there isn't ubuntu way :)
[11:12] <ivoks> Goonie errors related to ipw2200
[11:12] <MyNameIsChris> freewoody, man make-kpkg
[11:13] <ivoks> people, i have to eat...
[11:13] <ivoks> bye :)
[11:13] <daile> bye
[11:13] <revelater> MyNameIsChris: seriously though, i am not a COMPLETE noob, it is simply an odd question to ask
[11:14] <freewoody> All is commands is driving me mad
[11:14] <b0ol_> where to get a wma /  wmv codec?
[11:14] <ircbot_> b0ol_: win32codecs
[11:15] <fejaor> anyone who know about this error when starting ubuntu?? "pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C01" and the same again but at the end with PNP0C02
[11:15] <ircbot_> from multiverse
[11:15] <MyNameIsChris> revelater, Could you explain your problem further, all I gathered was it couldn't read that there was a cd in the drive
[11:15] <b0ol_> hm... lets see
[11:15] <b0ol_> but thnx anyway :)
[11:16] <b0ol_> ircbot_
[11:16] <b0ol_> how to add multiverse?
[11:16] <LISP> hello
[11:16] <daile> B0ol_, if it doesn't work let me know, I can help you
[11:16] <LISP> does anyone use ubu with xfce?
[11:16] <revelater> MyNameIsChris: close as i can come, any game that i install, that needs the install cd, cannot find it
[11:16] <ircbot_> go into synaptic, go to repo's, go to add, choose multiverse and universe
[11:16] <revelater> MyNameIsChris: repeatedly asks me to put it in
[11:16] <daile>  b0ol_: you can modify the source.list or using Synaptic
[11:17] <revelater> MyNameIsChris: as if it was looking in the wrong place
[11:17] <b0ol_> repo's?
[11:17] <daile>  b0ol_: have you read the Ubuntu starter guide
[11:17] <LISP> i want to enable transparency in xfce, and it sais somethinf about xserver6.8
[11:17] <LISP> which xserver does ubu use?
[11:17] <b0ol_> yes i did
[11:17] <daile> b0ol_: here it is http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> lisp which versiuon?
[11:17] <revelater> x.org
[11:17] <b0ol_> ah got it
[11:17] <b0ol_> thnx
[11:17] <b0ol_> cya
[11:17] <daile> no problem
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> hoary x.org, warty xfree86
[11:18] <XplOzIon> am i able to usesuperkaramba in gnome??
[11:18] <ulisse_> tremor_, I'm back! Now it works!
[11:18] <ircbot_> everytime i modify the source.list it tells me it can't find the repo... even when i just uncommented multiverse and universe
[11:18] <LISP> i upgraded hoary to warty, but when i removed xfreeserver the x system didn't start :(
[11:18] <ircbot_> but if i use synaptic to do it... works the same
[11:18] <LISP> althouh u had xorg installed
[11:19] <ircbot_> i still don't understand that
[11:19] <LISP> althouh i had xorg installed
[11:19] <daile> XplOzIon: I dont know if you can, but you can use gDesklets, which is quite the same to superkaramba
[11:19] <tremor_> ulisse_: great
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> lisp, did you upgrade from warty to hoary, or downgrade hoary to warty?
[11:20] <LISP> warty to hoary
[11:20] <LISP> not distro upgrade, but group select in synaptic
[11:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> so do you have a gui?
[11:20] <ulisse_> tremor_, it seems to be due to the router, that probably stores the mac address of the lan interface. I flushed the router's eeprom and now it works.
[11:20] <LISP> i have a gui
[11:20] <freewoody> How do I assign 2 different IPs for a single NIC Card using the interface eth0 ?
[11:20] <LISP> but i think i'm still runnint xfree
[11:20] <LISP> i mean i have xserver4.3 or something - 16 megs
[11:20] <ulisse_> tremor_, now I only have to put back on the other LAN card to connect my other PC
[11:21] <LISP> and xorg6.8 156 megs
[11:21] <LISP> which is operational?
[11:21] <LISP> :|
[11:21] <XplOzIon> daile, oh ok but with gdesklets where can i get the tool bar like superkaramba?
[11:21] <ulisse_> tremor_, thanks again, see you.
[11:21] <freewoody> How do I assign 2 different IPs for a single NIC Card using the interface eth0 ?
[11:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> 6.8 i expect, as its the bigger one
[11:22] <LISP> that's good, as it means i can use transparencies
[11:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> you could do a dist upgrade
[11:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbs
[11:22] <htaccess> freewoody, setup eth0:0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:22] <LISP> now i have to find out if xfce has transps enabled
[11:22] <htaccess> then ifup eth0:0
[11:22] <daile> XplOzIon: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[11:22] <htaccess> make eth0:0 like eth0 except the gateway
[11:23] <XplOzIon> daile, thanks!
[11:23] <daile> no problem
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> still having mplayer problems.  Here's some of the output.... Opening video decoder: [mpegpes]  MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> VDec: vo config request - 304 x 208 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> Opening video filter: [scale]
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> VDecoder init failed :(
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2]  MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b
[11:24] <ubuntu_fan> Selected video codec: [mpeg12]  vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG 1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
[11:25] <daile> ubuntu_fan:  did you install it using apt-get. If it doesn't work well, then you should compile it from source
[11:25] <daile> ubuntu_fan: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[11:27] <Q_Continuum> Modem gurus, identify yourselves!
[11:27] <Q_Continuum> lol
[11:28] <Q_Continuum> I've got a USR 5610B...system sees it, but won't use it.
[11:28] <barney> Does anyone know if it's possible to get an intel 536EP based modem working on Ubuntu?
[11:28] <barney> Intel provides a driver as a kernal module in a tarball, but it doesn't seem to work here.
[11:28] <Q_Continuum> has worked in previous iterations of Linux (mandrake, red hat, fedora..)
[11:29] <Q_Continuum> with no work, but ubuntu just doesn't want to autodetect it, or dial.
[11:29] <Vixus> Hey, I've got a digital camera USB'd up to my box, how do I dump pics off it? (Windows treated it like a removable USB stick).
[11:30] <Vixus> How do I detect the camera 'disk'?
[11:30] <Tuxicity> Vixus, i dont own a camera, but i think DigiKam or something is the app for the job
[11:30] <ircbot_> Vixus: apt-get install digikam
[11:31] <Vixus> thanks
[11:31] <LISP> how could i find compile-time flags?
[11:31] <Q_Continuum> where is there a list of all these useful little programs...?
[11:31] <ircbot_> digikam is the shixz0r!#@!$ OMGWTFBBQ
[11:31] <ircbot_> i'm slap happy... sorry
[11:31] <LISP> i wanna know if xfce has transparencies enabled
[11:31] <wdh> Vixus, you could probably just try to mount /dev/sda or /dev/sdaX
[11:31] <ircbot_> LISP: huh?  what do you mean?
[11:31] <MyNameIsChris> pkg-config --cflags xfce (Maybe)
[11:31] <ircbot_> LISP: np i see
[11:31] <Vixus> ircbot_: Digikam good or bad? XD
[11:32] <LISP> i know xfce supports transps
[11:32] <ircbot_> Vixus: digikam rocks... i love it
[11:32] <LISP> but i don't think it's enabled :(
[11:32] <ircbot_> yeah i do not like that sometimes... can't you get the source packages and compile a deb from those?
[11:32] <ircbot_> i've never done that... anyone got some tips?
[11:33] <LISP> i think i will..not nice :|
[11:33] <LISP> gentoo is looking more and more appealing
[11:33] <ircbot_> because i want to recompile gossip... the binary has like no preferences and it should
[11:33] <ircbot_> LISP: ever installed it?
[11:33] <LISP> as mplayer doesn't have gui enabled
[11:33] <LISP> and so on
[11:33] <ircbot_> LISP: yes it does
[11:33] <LISP> ircbot: no, but i will
[11:33] <ircbot_> it just pulls gmplayer
[11:33] <locomorto> sort of
[11:33] <locomorto> LISP: sort of*
[11:33] <ircbot_> LISP: ha ... it's a hell of an install
[11:33] <locomorto> download it and see for yourself
[11:33] <LISP> ircbot: gmplayer isn't there
[11:34] <locomorto> its apt-get(able)
[11:34] <ircbot_> LISP: it's the only time i've ever had to read the handbook for an install in years
[11:34] <Vixus> God, I should be revising for my exams... >_<
[11:34] <LISP> ircbot: amybe different repository?
[11:34] <Vixus> onlyl 3 weeks left
[11:34] <ircbot_> umm... i used multiverse
[11:34] <LISP> ircbot: and you mean you have gmplayer? not likely
[11:35] <ircbot_> LISP: it's fucking there you ass.  i don't like being called a liar btw
[11:35] <ircbot_> especially when i'm tired and grumpy
[11:35] <LISP> i've had this discussion before on the same forum
[11:35] <LISP> unless it's a new package
[11:36] <LISP> mplayer doesn't have ---enable-gui
[11:36] <LISP> mplayer doesn't have --enable-gui
[11:36] <LISP> i can bet on it
[11:36] <ircbot_> LISP: it's fucking there... i have no special repos... do you want a god damn screen shot?
[11:36] <LISP> yes :D
[11:36] <ircbot_> give me just a second you asshat
[11:37] <Q_Continuum> grrrrr.  *kicks his modem* WORK stupid thing WORRRRRRKKKKK
[11:37] <dazzed> lol
[11:37] <trust> Hi!
[11:37] <dazzed> i want a screen shot
[11:37] <ircbot_> give me a second i'm getting my repo's list up and shit too
[11:37] <Q_Continuum> so take one.
[11:38] <dazzed> theres like 6 million mplayers to download
[11:38] <b0ol_> ircbot_ its calledw32codecs
[11:38] <Q_Continuum> the system sees my modem.  but won't use it if it's life depended on it.
[11:38] <nostromo^> im trying to use hoary live to change my /dev/sda partition table (resizing the extended to the end of the disk), and it keeps telling me the partition is "busy" and i should umount it..
[11:38] <dazzed> oh well yeah u need those
[11:38] <dazzed> w32codecs from mallirat
[11:38] <ircbot_> b0ol_: you can get it from multiverse under the same name i do believe
[11:38] <Q_Continuum> anybody here know much about modems?
[11:38] <dazzed> nostromo^: sda is like usb disks and such
[11:38] <trust> Any idea if there's some sort of guied tool around for multimonitor config?
[11:39] <nicedreams> anyone have a deb package for xmame .95 ?
[11:39] <b0ol_> i didnt find win32 but w32
[11:39] <Q_Continuum> IT'S NOT A WINMODEM! (so we don't have to deal with that crap)
[11:39] <dazzed> nostromo^: if ur trying to do hard drive it should be like hda
[11:39] <LISP> ircbot: do you have mplayer 586?
[11:39] <nostromo^> dazzed, and also SATA disks, and SCSI disks, and pretty much a lot of other stuff. so what?
[11:39] <dazzed> LISP: get the w32codecs from mallirat
[11:39] <MyNameIsChris> dazzed, sczi or serial hdd
[11:39] <MyNameIsChris> Damn
[11:39] <dazzed> nostromo^: ok i was just checking to see if thats what ur trying to partition
[11:39] <ircbot_> LISP: http://irclikelife.com/pics/ass.png
[11:40] <dazzed> nostromo^: are u using sda in any form...running anything from it?
[11:41] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooodmoooooooooooooooooooorning #ubuntu
[11:41] <Seveas> :)
[11:41] <nostromo^> dazzed, nope.
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi seveas
[11:41] <LISP> ircbot: i saw the picture, now i'm changing mplayer to 586
[11:41] <dazzed> ircbot_: my desktop owns yours
[11:41] <dazzed> lol
[11:41] <LISP> ircbot: if it works i apologize
[11:41] <dazzed> hmm
[11:41] <LISP> ircbot: but mplayer custom doesn't have gui trust me
[11:41] <Seveas> ircbot_, you need mplayer-custom iirc
[11:41] <ircbot_> dazzed: heh that wasn't the point
[11:42] <ircbot_> Seveas: why do i need mplayer custom?
[11:42] <Seveas> ircbot_, because that one is made for ubuntu
[11:42] <LISP> ircbot: although they have a package that says nogui, too
[11:42] <ircbot_> Seveas: umm huh?
[11:42] <Seveas> and also: you should take it from the ubuntu repos, not marillat
[11:42] <ircbot_> Seveas: i use ubuntu?
[11:42] <dazzed> ircbot_: www.trip-p.com/images/desktops/flux-blue-night.jpg
[11:42] <ircbot_> it's not from marillat
[11:42] <ircbot_> wtf
[11:42] <Q_Continuum> GRRRRRR...damn you debian based OSes!
[11:43] <ircbot_> i didn't ask for anything Seveas
[11:43] <LISP> ircbot: debian is great
[11:43] <Q_Continuum> debian and ubuntu are the only linux OSes that refuse to work with my modem.
[11:43] <ircbot_> wtf
[11:43] <LISP> q-continuum: debian is great
[11:43] <ircbot_> i'm all kinds of confused
[11:43] <Q_Continuum> Mandrake, Red Hat and Fedora all detect it (like debian/ubuntu does) but THEY LET ME USE IT
[11:43] <dazzed> lol
[11:43] <wdh> Q_Continuum, i assume you forget about the rest of the debian-based distro's :)
[11:43] <dazzed> debian is great
[11:43] <LISP> WAHOOOOO
[11:43] <Q_Continuum> I can see it but I can't do crap with it.
[11:43] <LISP> MPLAYER 586 HAS GUI :d
[11:43] <ircbot_> dazzed: you should see my desktop
[11:43] <Q_Continuum> >.<
[11:43] <ircbot_> and no i'm not getting up to take a screenshot
[11:44] <dazzed> ircbot_: i feel ur struggle
[11:44] <wdh> Q_Continuum, file a bug-report then
[11:44] <Q_Continuum> mmmkay
[11:44] <Q_Continuum> I pushed my hardware report to them just now pointing out that my modem doesn't work. lol.
[11:44] <dazzed> ircbot_: heh...i live for customization of my computer
[11:44] <Q_Continuum> it sees it under device manager correctly, but under Device and Capabilities, I have "unknown"
[11:44] <ircbot_> i do a lot more customizing on my desktop
[11:45] <dazzed> im on my lappy in bed too ircbot_ :)
[11:45] <ircbot_> haha oh yeah
[11:45] <dazzed> if thats where u are
[11:45] <dazzed> lol yeah i run gnome from lappy
[11:45] <LISP> that fluxbox thingie :p is it really worth it?
[11:45] <ircbot_> i didn't find a good enough reason to not run gnome on this box
[11:45] <dazzed> heh i got a special spot for my lap right on my nightstand
[11:45] <ircbot_> i use blackbox on my desktop though
[11:46] <dazzed> :)
[11:46] <ircbot_> i pack mine back in it's bag because i have animals that'll fuck it up
[11:46] <ircbot_> i just realized i'm supposed to drive my mom somewhere at 5am
[11:47] <Q_Continuum> lol
[11:47] <ircbot_> it's 4:47am
[11:47] <ircbot_> looks like i won't be sleeping yet
[11:47] <Q_Continuum> *curses even more at his modem*
[11:47] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, what is your modem
[11:47] <whiteknight> ?
[11:47] <Q_Continuum> USR 5610b...lemme get the non technical name
[11:47] <dazzed> lol understandable...i used blackbox for windows for like 3 years before i got onto actual linux...i like flux better only cuz of the tabbed windows...also where are the deps for mplayer...what repo?
[11:48] <Q_Continuum> US Robotics Performance Pro
[11:48] <dazzed> 447 for me too ircbot_
[11:48] <ircbot_> tabbed windows?
[11:48] <ircbot_> dazzed: multiverse
[11:48] <dazzed> u can put like 12 windows into 1
[11:48] <ircbot_> ah that's interesting
[11:48] <dazzed> it says that it cant find certain deps
[11:48] <dazzed> but my multiverse is fine
[11:48] <LISP> very nice, but when do you ever have so many on, except terms?
[11:48] <ircbot_> i don't think would like different stuff in one tab
[11:49] <LISP> gaim has tabs, so does mozilla
[11:49] <ircbot_> i like tabbing my consoles, chats, webpages
[11:49] <ircbot_> but not together
[11:49] <dazzed> well i combine my xchat and gnome term and synaptic (if i use all 3)
[11:49] <LISP> and how long did it take you to customize?
[11:49] <ircbot_> i wouldn't even tab my messages if i could make psi use esd
[11:49] <ircbot_> but i can't heh
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have lots of tabs for chats, but all my consoles are independant
[11:49] <dazzed> but i use irssi and aterm s
[11:50] <dazzed> so noo need to combine
[11:50] <Q_Continuum> Ubuntu identifies the modem correctly as a "56K FaxModem Model 5610" but refuses to dial or autodetect it under network config, so it has not /dev/whatever >.<
[11:50] <ircbot_> i've used aterm for so very long, but started using gnome-terminal after i put ubuntu on this box
[11:50] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, when you do dmesg does it appear anywhere?
[11:50] <LISP> q_cont: nice...
[11:50] <LISP> q_cont: debian did the same with my sound card
[11:50] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, also is there a driver loaded? check lsmod
[11:51] <LISP> ircbot: kosole was nice too
[11:51] <ircbot_> LISP it is, but i don't have kde
[11:51] <LISP> ircbot: me neither :D
[11:51] <Q_Continuum> looking through dmesg, will look through lsmod...
[11:51] <ircbot_> i do on my other box... but i'm not putting it on this one
[11:52] <ircbot_> if i started over i might put kubuntu on here instead of ubuntu, but for some reason i chose the gnome version when i'm normally a kde person when forced to choose
[11:52] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, this might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176693
[11:52] <ircbot_> but gnome hasn't made me regret it really
[11:52] <dazzed> lol it says it has deps on packages i already have....
[11:52] <dazzed> insane
[11:52] <LISP> ircbot: how long did it take you to arrange black/flux/whatever?
[11:52] <ircbot_> eh 10 minutes
[11:53] <dazzed> if u want the basics takes as long as it takes to compile the source
[11:53] <LISP> 10 mins? with themes and so? if i remember well those wm use text config
[11:53] <dazzed> but if you want your OWN flux or blackbox is never done configgin
[11:53] <LISP> i just tried it
[11:53] <ircbot_> LISP yep but i'm used to it
[11:53] <LISP> i'm not scared to tinker, i like it
[11:53] <ircbot_> besides i do believe there is a package for flux that will set up a menu for you
[11:54] <dazzed> there is a flux package but dont use it
[11:54] <xukun> what is the problem with apt-get update, I,m geting a lot of failed errors
[11:54] <dazzed> cuz then u cant have menu pics
[11:54] <dazzed> u have to compile with imlib2
[11:54] <phuckdapoor> good morrow
[11:54] <Q_Continuum> nothing in either of those.
[11:54] <ircbot_> eh i don't need menu pics, but i didn't use it either... especially since i'm on blackbox
[11:55] <ircbot_> i emerge -C 'd fluxbox
[11:55] <LISP> have you tried xfce?
[11:55] <Q_Continuum> lspci finds something though on the modem.
[11:55] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, i'm really sorry but i've got to go, but perhaps this might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/279
[11:55] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, though it isn't directly for ubunut, it might give some pointers
[11:55] <LISP> it's cool...and you can make it even cooler :p
[11:55] <dazzed> emerge?? u on gentoo?
[11:55] <ircbot_> my desktop is
[11:55] <dazzed> oh ok
[11:56] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, oh and yeah lspci will, cause it looks directly at the pci ports
[11:56] <dazzed> gentoo seems to be most flux users preference
[11:56] <whiteknight> Q_Continuum, good luck
[11:56] <ircbot_> anything happens ... such as i completely fuxor the desktop and have to reinstall... ima go to kubuntu on it
[11:56] <phuckdapoor> Jesus christ no
[11:56] <phuckdapoor> no fuxor
[11:56] <dazzed> ahhh
[11:56] <phuckdapoor> no roxour
[11:56] <ircbot_> because i don't care to remove gentoo when it runs great, but i don't care to install it again either
[11:56] <dazzed> u killed me irc
[11:56] <phuckdapoor> no hardcore
[11:56] <AvvY> what terminal command do i use to extract a .tar.bz2 file?
[11:56] <Q_Continuum> that second link might help whitenight...
[11:56] <dazzed> how could u go kde
[11:56] <LISP> tar -jxf
[11:57] <dazzed> tisk tisk
[11:57] <AvvY> thanx!
[11:57] <shinu> hey!
[11:57] <Q_Continuum> it's the right model so I hope...
[11:57] <LISP> avvy: welcome
[11:57] <AvvY> LISP: thank you :) - i just started using ubuntu yesterday - thus, started using linux yesterday
[11:57] <Q_Continuum> should I just use alien to install the rpm?
[11:57] <shinu> could anyone remind me the command to switch off gdm at each startup?
[11:57] <shinu> and other programs as well
[11:57] <LISP> q_cont: guess so
[11:58] <LISP> q_cont: don't use rpm, that's for sure
[11:58] <dazzed> LISP: you know if u hit tab when typing someones name it types the whole name
[11:58] <LISP> dazzed: >:P
[11:59] <dazzed> heh...looked like u needed to be informed
[11:59] <LISP> dazzed: no problem
[11:59] <ircbot_> can you auto update a generic kernel with ubuntu?
[11:59] <LISP> dazzed: just lazy, today
[11:59] <Hmmmm> guys my gnome taskbar had crashed and i added a normal bar there. now the apps dont appear on the taskbar. what do i do?
[11:59] <dazzed> ircbot_: im not sure about AUTO updating but i know u can update
[11:59] <ircbot_> because i will give fedora that... that was pretty spiffy to implement auto kernel updating.
[11:59] <LISP> ircbot: autoupdate? as in apt-get kernel or what?
[12:00] <iluciv> hi ya does anyone know if I can use nvtv with a ti 4200 nvidia card and ubuntu??
[12:00] <ircbot_> pretty much
[12:00] <ircbot_> from the confused questions i'll take that as a no
[12:00] <LISP> ircbot: you could write a script :p
[12:00] <ircbot_> i don't intend on using such a feature... i love custom compiling, but if i were working on a few hundred servers i could see a serious advantage of fedora
[12:01] <LISP> ircbot: why fedora? does it do it automatically? perhaps sec updates..
[12:01] <ircbot_> being able to say "yum update" or whatever and having a new patched kernel auto added was cool... but it didn't cut it for the desktop
[12:01] <dazzed> ircbot_: well ubuntu has some work before it should be used for servers
[12:01] <nicedreams> ircbot_: you can do that in ubuntu
[12:01] <ircbot_> dazzed: eh if debian can be used with servers...
[12:01] <LISP> ircbot: you can do it, because debian can
[12:02] <LISP> ircbot: and if debian isn't better than fedora...
[12:02] <nicedreams> can't you just    apt-get install linux-686    or whatever your processor is and it will update the kernel in an upgrade for you and add it to grub
[12:02] <dazzed> ircbot_: and i told u that u can apt-get a kernel...but u cant AUTO update everytime one is released
[12:02] <ircbot_> nicedreams: really?  that's just neat... like i said... won't use it, but it's handy to be able to do
[12:02] <ircbot_> dazzed: well it wasn't everytime one was released on fedora, but whenever they packaged one up
[12:02] <shinu> anyone can help me to switch off gdm for good?
[12:03] <dazzed> gotcha
[12:03] <nicedreams> i have a few kernels in my grub conf from doing that
[12:03] <dazzed> i was under the impression you wanted it done for you a certain time once a month or something
[12:03] <LISP> nicedreams: use apt-get remove...
[12:03] <nicedreams> lisp, ?
[12:04] <ircbot_> what's the best way to add a module to load at startup?
[12:04] <LISP> nicedreams: remove those unwanted entries
[12:04] <nicedreams> oh
[12:04] <nicedreams> lol.... i should.  I just forget once i'm booted up
[12:04] <LISP> nicedreams: you don't need 10 kernel backups or so
[12:04] <Tuxicity> ircbot_, /etc/modules ?
[12:04] <herrie-aab> hello do somebody know something about nicotine filesharing??
[12:04] <nicedreams> why hasen't encrypted file sharing caught on?
[12:05] <ircbot_> Tuxicity: thanks
[12:05] <herrie-aab> nicedreams, what do you meen?
[12:05] <Tuxicity> ircbot_, np
[12:05] <Vixus> Hey, can I use the s-video out port on my nVidia card with linux?
[12:05] <ircbot_> nicedreams: it doesn't work really... not on p2p
[12:05] <superted> can't I use the warty intall or livecd to install grub?
[12:05] <dazzed> Vixus: sure
[12:05] <nicedreams> like the IRAA can see what your doing and get you for downloading the wrong stuff, but they can't with encrypted file sharing like the nulsoft waste program that AOL got mad about
[12:06] <ircbot_> nicedreams: because it might hide the transfer from say... the ISPs, but if you are trying to hide from say the RIAA ... well they are actually getting on the networks to download from you and make records of it
[12:06] <dazzed> superted: u can use a live cd to install grub
[12:06] <nicedreams> but it's illegal for someone to decrypt information without permission
[12:06] <herrie-aab> do you need some serverlist for nicotine???
[12:06] <mipfi> Vixus: sudo apt get install nvtv
[12:06] <ircbot_> nicedreams: they get you not by watching your files you are transfering, but instead by having someone actually download from you
[12:06] <nicedreams> so the iraa would be breaking the law
[12:07] <ircbot_> nicedreams: but if you want to use a p2p network you'll have to agree to let people decrypt it... or they'd get shut down for breaking the law
[12:07] <herrie-aab> can somebody help me with filesharing????
[12:07] <Vixus> mipfi: Wow, there's a program for EVERYTHING. Ubuntu is magic!
[12:07] <superted> dazzed: how? the warty one didin't seem to have a "rescue" option
[12:07] <Vixus> mipfi: How do I use it?
[12:07] <ircbot_> lol
[12:07] <ircbot_> lmao
[12:07] <ircbot_> that was nice vixus
[12:07] <Vixus> ircbot_: hmm?
[12:08] <mipfi> Vixus: i have never testet the tv out from my geforce but when there is a tool i think it works :)
[12:08] <ircbot_> you were just like "There is a program for everything!" then "how do i use it?"
[12:08] <herrie-aab> dazzed, can you help me with file sharing with nicotine 1.0.8rc1???????????????????????????????????????
[12:08] <dazzed> superted: im not quite sure on how ud go about installing it from live cd seeing is how i have never done it but i dont think its in the 'rescue' feature this isnt M$ lol :)
[12:08] <Vixus> mipfi: I have a geforce4 MX 440, so... I'll tell you how it goes.
[12:08] <ircbot_> apt-get install it vixus and then man it
[12:08] <dazzed> herrie-aab: im not to sure i could
[12:08] <Vixus> ircbot_: k,
[12:09] <herrie-aab> dazzed,do you know something about it??:S:S
[12:09] <superted> dazzed: instructions from ubuntuguide on how you'd do it with hoary livecd says that there is a 'rescue' boot option :)
[12:09] <mipfi> Vixus: install nvtv and start it :)
[12:09] <dazzed> Vixus: apt-get install nvidia-glx && apt-get install nvidia-settings
[12:09] <dazzed> superted: oh thats just booting into console
[12:09] <dazzed> theres nothing rescue about it lol
[12:09] <ircbot_> i still can't get the nvidia drivers to go widescreen
[12:10] <ircbot_> tried every fix i've found
[12:10] <iluciv> erh HELP how do I revert back to my backup xorg.conf file now that I've screw the one I was using from command line :(
[12:10] <nicedreams> ircbot_: download the official nvidia drivers and use those
[12:10] <dazzed> superted: and that would be kinda hard considering you have to boot that from grub or command line
[12:10] <nicedreams> i find them to work better for me in ubuntu
[12:10] <nicedreams> just sh the file you download
[12:10] <nicedreams> and make sure you have the kernel headers or the kernel source
[12:10] <ircbot_> superted: actually i think you can list the kernels and one is like rescue at boot
[12:10] <superted> ircbot_: with the warty livecd?
[12:11] <ircbot_> but yeah it's just booting to console
[12:11] <ircbot_> and you can go in and try to fix whatever you broke
[12:11] <Raskall> ahh.. synctree was just what I needed for synchronizing home-directories between laptops and server. But to automate it I need to run a command when logging out of gnome. is there a .logout or similar functionality in linux/gnome/ubuntu?
[12:11] <ircbot_> superted: never used warty
[12:11] <ircbot_> i'm a new convert
[12:11] <nicedreams> lol....i always use test versions of distros also
[12:12] <iluciv> pls
[12:12] <Tuxicity> iluciv, mv /backup/file /real/file
[12:12] <Tuxicity> iluciv, is that it?
[12:12] <ircbot_> one of these days i'll have enough computers to put all the distro's on that i can handle heh
[12:12] <Tuxicity> iluciv, mv -i /backup/file /real/file
[12:12] <Tuxicity> iluciv, second one is better
[12:12] <ircbot_> what's the -i option do for mv?
[12:13] <Tuxicity> iluciv, replace with appropriate paths
[12:13] <iluciv> Tuxicity: thanks btw do you know if I can use nvtv with a ti 4200
[12:13] <dazzed> ircbot_: i got a buddy (a fellow fluxor) i think he has run every distro known to linux
[12:13] <Tuxicity> ircbot_, i is for interactive (overwrite prompt)
[12:13] <Valentin-> is it possible that evolution doesn't support ports like 8181 in the OWA url?
[12:13] <Tuxicity> iluciv, never heard of nvtv
[12:14] <locomorto> Valentin: check your firewall settings
[12:14] <ircbot_> dazzed: i've run a lot... but mostly just the popular ones
[12:14] <iluciv> Tuxicity: thanks heaps anyways
[12:14] <ircbot_> dazzed: you should see my ISO cd collection
[12:14] <Tuxicity> iluciv, np
[12:14] <dazzed> ircbot_: lol :) i can only imagine
[12:14] <Valentin-> locomorto, checking which settings?
[12:15] <locomorto> firewall
[12:15] <locomorto> you know, blocked incoming 8181?
[12:15] <ircbot_> why are the LINKSYS WRT54GX Wireless Routers so freaking expensive compared to their others?  they offer the same thing... does it go out like a mile?
[12:15] <locomorto> like it is by default i believe?
[12:15] <dazzed> i really need to put some work into the webpage
[12:15] <ircbot_> dazzed: i've got about a dozen distro's if you count bsd's as distros heh
[12:15] <ircbot_> plus livecds
[12:15] <Tomcat_> ircbot_: Isn't that the one that runs Linux?
[12:15] <dazzed> ircbot_: i think that is there wireless g ap
[12:16] <Valentin-> locomorto, but 8181 is would be outgoing not incoming
[12:16] <shinu> can anyone tell me how to switch off gdm for good?
[12:16] <ircbot_> g ap?
[12:16] <Tuxicity> iluciv, after thought, it appears nvtv should work with about any nvidia card (with tv ot)
[12:16] <LISP> gdm for goom?
[12:16] <dazzed> wireless g accespoint...
[12:16] <locomorto> does not matter
[12:16] <dazzed> the new band of wireless frequencies
[12:16] <ircbot_> okay
[12:16] <LISP> shinu:  and replce it with?
[12:16] <locomorto> it still needs to be ublocked
[12:16] <Tomcat_> "new" :)
[12:16] <ircbot_> but they have others that offer wireless g
[12:16] <locomorto> its the way TCP works
[12:16] <shinu> LISP: no replacing :D i want text login
[12:16] <ircbot_> that are like $40
[12:17] <dazzed> i got linksys wireless g network card...but it gest no wireless g use without a g accesspoint
[12:17] <locomorto> ad-hoc?
[12:17] <LISP> shinu: uninstall gdm, and don't startx
[12:17] <dazzed> i think the ones that offer wireless g are ones that are "compatible" with wireless g which is just a marketing gimmic cuz wireless g is compatible with all wireless bands
[12:17] <LISP> one sec, till i remember the init file
[12:18] <shinu> LISP: wasnt there a command for that?
[12:18] <shinu> LISP: i think last time someone gave me the command that show also other daemons and runlevels
[12:18] <dazzed> looks like im not oging to sleep today
[12:18] <dazzed> i should roll up a joint and play some supertux
[12:18] <Tuxicity> dazzed, that new WiMax thing, will it replace 802.11g or is it different?
[12:19] <dazzed> Tuxicity: im confused...u talking about the drivers...never heard of WiMax
[12:19] <dazzed> ohhh ok
[12:19] <Tuxicity> dazzed, noped, but u looked like u knew a lot 'bout wireless...
[12:19] <dazzed> i gotcha now
[12:20] <dazzed> i have heard of that
[12:20] <LISP> shinu: i remember, but i have to look it up, it's been a while since i used text login
[12:20] <ircbot_> WiMax seems interesting
[12:20] <Tuxicity> dazzed, talking about WiMax and 802.11i etc.
[12:20] <ircbot_> but i haven't read much on it
[12:20] <dazzed> i misread ur question
[12:20] <dazzed> but i think they are completely seperate
[12:20] <Valentin-> locomorto, disabled the firewall no changes
[12:20] <dazzed> like ircbot_ i havent read anything on the wimax
[12:20] <Tuxicity> dazzed, my question was vague
[12:20] <LISP> shinu: edit inittab
[12:20] <iluciv> Tuxicity: thanks
[12:20] <locomorto> dunno then sorry :(. try the forums
[12:20] <ircbot_> i know they used it on some train system not long ago
[12:20] <ircbot_> that was impressive
[12:21] <dazzed> lol im dislexic to a point...i mix up words and put em in different places
[12:21] <Tuxicity> iluciv, was nothing (really..)
[12:21] <LISP> shinu: /etc/inittab, change the runlevel to..
[12:21] <Valentin-> how do I search for packages via apt-get?
[12:22] <dazzed> Valentin-: apt-cache search <package?
[12:22] <ircbot_> dazzed: me to... runs in my family... but you get used to it eh?
[12:22] <locomorto> apt-cache search
[12:22] <dazzed> ircbot_: yeah it seems to only happen when reading computer lines
[12:22] <locomorto> VAlentin: as above
[12:22] <dazzed> not so much in books
[12:22] <xukun> can somebody paste a good sources.list file for me? I think mine no good any more
[12:23] <ircbot_> dazzed: ah well it happens to me on everything.  i screw up all kinds of stuff, but i read a lot so it has weened off a lot
[12:23] <dazzed> i really need to just spark a joint and finish up superutx
[12:23] <ircbot_> since my younger days
[12:23] <Valentin-> dazzed, I thought so too, but I get E: invalid operation search, to I have to configure my apt-get list?
[12:23] <dazzed> Valentin-: only if ur sources arent enabled which it seems like
[12:23] <dazzed> it doesnt*
[12:23] <dazzed> invalid operation search hmmm
[12:24] <dazzed> u sure u spelled it right?
[12:24] <dazzed> 'apt-cache search package
[12:24] <barney> I'm tryint to set up a 536EP modem, following instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto, but when I try to patch the source, I get the error ' patch: **** strip count l is not a number'. Any ideas?
[12:24] <Tuxicity> xukun, ya check www.pastebin.com
[12:24] <locomorto> Valentin- btw, you use this format: someaddress.com:8181 right?
[12:25] <Valentin-> locomorto, yes
[12:25] <Tuxicity> xukun, under Tuxicity
[12:26] <LISP> i'm totally lost..how can i have two xservers installed?
[12:26] <n3> el o
[12:26] <xukun> Tuxicity, thanks a lot
[12:26] <Tuxicity> xukun, emm and remove that "<PHP" part... ok?
[12:26] <LISP> i have both xfree and xorg
[12:26] <Tuxicity> xukun, my pleasure
[12:27] <LISP> sith configs and stuff
[12:27] <ircbot_> LISP: why do you have them both?
[12:27] <LISP> ircbot_: because i did a sort of distro upgrade
[12:28] <LISP> ircbot_: when i tried to uninstall xfree gdm would'n fire up
[12:28] <Tuxicity> xukun, BTW that's for Hoary!
[12:28] <shinu> LISP: should i maybe ask on #debian? might they know?
[12:28] <ircbot_> LISP: i see...
[12:28] <ircbot_> LISP: so you did what?  like changed the repo's and did an update and upgrade?
[12:29] <LISP> shinu: maybe, it's not ubu/debian specific, i just can't remember the no-X runlevel
[12:29] <LISP> ircbot_: no, same repo& stuff, just selected in synaptic groups of apps, alphabetically ordered, to upgrade
[12:29] <Tuxicity> LISP, that would be rc3 i believe
[12:29] <LISP> ircbot_: during 2 days
[12:30] <dazzed> when did kdelibs get an upgrade
[12:30] <ircbot_> i see
[12:30] <ircbot_> well i gotta run
[12:30] <LISP> shinu: edit /etc/inittat adn change default runlevel to 3
[12:30] <Tuxicity> LISP, wow wait, im not sure
[12:31] <LISP> shinu: you're better of reading the manual..i'm too tired for this :P
[12:32] <xukun> Tuxicity, even with that soureces list I get failed errors with apt-get update
[12:32] <mike_douglas> watching the new Family Guy (it leaked to bt). There back :'( (tears of joy)
[12:33] <shinu> LISP: i meant the command to switch off gdm at runlevel 2(<=if i remember well)
[12:33] <T6> re hi
[12:34] <LISP> me go to bed...anyway why switch off? better not start it at all..
[12:35] <Tuxicity> xukun, just updated, no errors
[12:35] <Tuxicity> xukun, you are running Hoary?
[12:35] <xukun> Tuxicity, yes
[12:35] <Vixus> Hmm, digikam won't detect my camera... Ubuntu won't detect my camera...
[12:35] <Vixus> only Windows detects my camera >:|
[12:36] <AbeX> hello
[12:36] <AbeX> ;]
[12:36] <dazzed> is anyone good with italian
[12:36] <dazzed> who wants to translate a wiki?
[12:36] <Tuxicity> dazzed, ask on #ubuntu-it
[12:36] <Vixus> Crappy windows, gotta go back to it always.
[12:36] <Vixus> Cause ubuntu won't do the magic! :D
[12:36] <dazzed> Tuxicity: good idea
[12:36] <pmjdebruijn> is it possible / wise to use debian kernel to update ubuntu
[12:37] <pmjdebruijn> i want to run 2.6.11 (without compiling, it's a slow machine)
[12:37] <Tuxicity> xukun, what's an error like?
[12:37] <Tuxicity> xukun, which repo fails?
[12:37] <xukun> Tuxicity, http://www.pastebin.com/275215
[12:37] <Vixus> well, see ya.
[12:37] <AbeX> can you help me? :) i want to install ubuntu on the computer, where now windows is installed, can i do it and use after installation both operation systems ?
[12:38] <locomorto> pmjdebruijn if you want 2.6.11 go to breezy
[12:38] <Cshell> I am trying to boot with ubuntu from cd....it starts and i type live or just hit enter and it goes through the boot process then goes back to the same screen any ideas
[12:38] <Vixus> AbeX: Yes, like I have to.
[12:38] <pmjdebruijn> locomorto: you mean a full update, entirely to breezy, or just the kernel?
[12:38] <Vixus> AbeX: Resize the windows partition, create a new empty parition, install ubuntu on that partition BE CAREFUL!!
[12:39] <p88> hi does bash_completion need to be executable?
[12:39] <locomorto> full update
[12:39] <locomorto> you ight want to wait a while untill its not SO crazy
[12:39] <daile> p88: I think so, must be executable
[12:40] <daile> p88: for command completion
[12:40] <daile> :)
[12:40] <p88> ok
[12:40] <xukun> Tuxicity, did you got that/
[12:40] <pmjdebruijn> locomorto: right... hmmmm :(
[12:40] <Cshell> can anyone help me with booting ubuntu from cd?
[12:40] <locomorto> yes
[12:41] <Tuxicity> xukun, yep. make sure your firewall isnt blocking it?
[12:41] <locomorto> have you changed the bios Cshell?
[12:41] <locomorto> wait i saw the message above
[12:41] <AbeX> Vixus i already have second partition, but it is not empty (there is my video collection), can i install ubuntu here and save my data ? :)
[12:41] <locomorto> is this the live CD or install CD?
[12:41] <pmjdebruijn> Cshell: with some BIOSses, you can press ESC to get a 'boot from' list....
[12:42] <xukun> Tuxicity, I dont have one
[12:42] <Cshell> live cd....i get the ubuntu startup screen...but when i hit enter...it uncompresses then goes back to same scree
[12:42] <Tuxicity> AbeX, well you need an empty partition
[12:42] <xukun> this is most strange
[12:42] <xukun> rrrrrrr
[12:43] <AbeX> empty? ok, thanks
[12:43] <dazzed> hey...whats eating gilbert grape?
[12:44] <XplOzIon> ok QUestion: I just formated an hdd (used gparter) and mounted it. but the hdd seems to be blocked or somerhing and i canot create folder or copy on it. why is that?
[12:45] <dazzed> XplOzIon: did u make format it into ext2 or 3?
[12:45] <dazzed> XplOzIon: or did u just format it...cuz if u did that its unallocated space...u need to format it into something like ext2or3 which is linux filesystem
[12:45] <XplOzIon> ext3
[12:46] <dazzed> XplOzIon: well i use 2 so try 2 lol :/ dunno whatelse to say
[12:46] <XplOzIon> lol ok
[12:46] <XplOzIon> let me try
[12:46] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, mounted as read-only??
[12:47] <XplOzIon> hmm well i used sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/data
[12:47] <XplOzIon> chmod -R 777 /mnt/data/
[12:48] <Choubaka> -_-
[12:48] <Choubaka> never chmod -R 777 anything
[12:48] <XplOzIon> no? why?
[12:48] <Choubaka> it'll make everyone able to rm -rf your data.
[12:49] <Tuxicity> Choubaka, tell him how to access it 1st
[12:49] <Choubaka> anyone with access to your computer that is
[12:49] <XplOzIon> noone uses this pc but me
[12:49] <Choubaka> It's still a bit stupid. But never mind
[12:50] <Choubaka> tell -o umask=022 to mount
[12:50] <Choubaka> that should work.
[12:50] <XplOzIon> ok
[12:50] <HiddenWolf> Can someone tell me how I can force the order in which my sound devices are loaded?
[12:50] <XplOzIon> so if not -R 777 what then?
[12:50] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, 755
[12:50] <Choubaka> or 750
[12:50] <dazzed> dont 777
[12:51] <dazzed> do like 750
[12:51] <XplOzIon> that way azureus will be able to make folders?
[12:51] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, 755 = others can read, not modify
[12:51] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: hmm.
[12:51] <Choubaka> what filesystem is it?
[12:51] <XplOzIon> ext3
[12:52] <dazzed> ext3
[12:52] <Choubaka> you could do umask=002 too
[12:52] <Choubaka> oh, hmm
[12:52] <Valentin-> why is it not possible for me to edit my sources.list?
[12:52] <Choubaka> then you don't even need umask.
[12:52] <Choubaka> :P
[12:52] <XplOzIon> =/
[12:52] <XplOzIon> you confusing me :P
[12:52] <Choubaka> just mount it as normal and give it permissions with chmod
[12:52] <Choubaka> :P
[12:52] <Tuxicity> Valentin-, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <shinu> so can anyone help me switch off gdm at startup? :D
[12:53] <XplOzIon> what kind of? 755? 750?
[12:53] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: who owns the /mnt/data dir?
[12:53] <dazzed> shinu: ...why?
[12:53] <XplOzIon> shinu, need to set autolog user
[12:53] <XplOzIon> me
[12:53] <Choubaka> your user?
[12:53] <XplOzIon> hmm i think
[12:53] <XplOzIon> how can i check that?
[12:53] <Choubaka> check with ls -ld /dir/name
[12:54] <shinu> dazzed: cause i want text login? :)
[12:54] <XplOzIon> ok
[12:54] <dazzed> shinu: good reason lol ... i did it once on accident i couldnt tell you how to do it
[12:54] <AvvY|brb> how do i find a list of all the partitions on my hdd's in ubuntu?
[12:54] <shinu> XplOzIon: do you know a command that allows you to manage services that start at different runlevels?
[12:54] <shinu> dazzed: :)
[12:54] <dazzed> shinu: but u know it does the X-login
[12:54] <dazzed> not just text console style
[12:54] <shinu> dazzed: someone told me yesterday how to do it but i forgot -.-
[12:54] <Choubaka> shinu: update-rc.d
[12:54] <Choubaka> :p
[12:55] <shinu> xD
[12:55] <Tuxicity> AvvY, df
[12:56] <AvvY> Tuxicity: na, i need to see ones which arent mounted, such as my ntfs partitions and such.
[12:56] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: so?
[12:57] <XplOzIon> root owns it drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-04-24 06:37 /mnt/data/
[12:57] <Choubaka> ok, so it's owned by root, not you.
[12:57] <barney> Avvy: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:58] <barney> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb if youv'e got another one.
[12:58] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: are there any files in the data dir?
[12:58] <XplOzIon> Choubaka, tips on where shoul i mount hdd just for downloads?.. no its empty
[12:58] <Choubaka> ok
[12:59] <AvvY> barney: excellent! thanx
[12:59] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: so sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mnt/data
[12:59] <Choubaka> then the dir will be yours!
[12:59] <Choubaka> also, you might want to add it in fstab.
[01:00] <AvvY> what should be the full fstab line for the swap mount point?
[01:00] <XplOzIon> Choubaka, yeah i was reading the man, i need to add it
[01:00] <XplOzIon> so when i boot its already mounted right?
[01:00] <Choubaka> yeah
[01:01] <Choubaka> AvvY: /dev/hdXn none swap sw 0 0
[01:01] <XplOzIon> whats the fstab file to edit?
[01:01] <HiddenWolf> How do I see the order in which my sound cards load?
[01:01] <Choubaka> XplOzIon: /etc/fstab :)
[01:01] <barney> /etc/fstab
[01:02] <XplOzIon> damn im such a noob
[01:02] <XplOzIon> asking stupid things
[01:02] <topyli> hrm. dictd startup script is b0rken somehow
[01:02] <AvvY> choubaka: would this work: /dev/sda6	swap	none	sw     0    0
[01:03] <barney> i'ts only stupid once you know it. All system-wide config files are normally in /etc/.
[01:03] <black_Nightmare> any of you know about laptop video?
[01:03] <AvvY> <mount point> = swap? yeah?
[01:03] <XplOzIon> barney, ok thanks
[01:03] <Tuxicity> AvvY, no Type
[01:04] <Tuxicity> AvvY, Mount Point = none
[01:04] <black_Nightmare> or maybe I guess not :p
[01:04] <AvvY> then how will it know it is the swap partition?
[01:05] <Tuxicity> AvvY, Type = swap
[01:05] <Turtlewind> a dumb question about USB disks:
[01:05] <Tuxicity> black_Nightmare, it sounds like an interesting video :O
[01:05] <Turtlewind> I have a USB drive that Linux doesn't detect, although Windows 2k/XP and MacOSX find it automatically
[01:05] <barney> XplOzIon: if you didn't know that, you could type 'locate fstab' to find it.
[01:05] <XplOzIon> what goes on option dump and pass? in the fstab config?
[01:05] <black_Nightmare> tux...well the question is...
[01:05] <AvvY> oh ok. and options =sw? what does sw do?
[01:05] <Turtlewind> I've been told that I can mount it manually
[01:05] <XplOzIon> barney, thanks i do know about locate :)
[01:05] <Turtlewind> but the MAN files for the mount command are pretty arcane
[01:05] <black_Nightmare> think a laptop wouldn't mind if a mini-pci graphic card was installed? (if its on whitelist that is)
[01:06] <black_Nightmare> seem like a weird question I know but then still...
[01:06] <Tuxicity> AvvY, no idea. it's like that ;)
[01:06] <Turtlewind> so can someone give me a simple summary of how to mount a USB drive that Ubuntu doesn't find on its own?
[01:06] <AvvY> Tuxicity: lol, not a problem :)
[01:08] <Choubaka> AvvY: no, mountpoint is none
[01:08] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, not sure at all, but i'll try...
[01:08] <AvvY> Choubaka: yeah, i got it sorted. thanx :)
[01:08] <Turtlewind> (to make matters more complicated, I'm at work at the moment and so don't have my PC in front of me, but I can mail the logs of this to myself)
[01:08] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, goto System --> System --> Device Manager
[01:09] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, find your HDD in the list of devices on the left
[01:09] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, click on it
[01:09] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, in the right pane, select the Advanced tab
[01:09] <Turtlewind> yep, I'm following you so far
[01:10] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, check what block device it is e.g. /dev/hda
[01:10] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, BTW I am not familiar with USB drives, so im just guessing... but it might work
[01:10] <AvvY> what terminal command do i need to edit GRUB?
[01:11] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, ok now you know it's called /dev/hda or something
[01:11] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, open the terminal (console) and type this...
[01:12] <kellemelle> #ubuntu-nl
[01:12] <kakakeke_> salu
[01:12] <kakakeke_> tt le
[01:12] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, sudo mkdir /media/my_usb_drive
[01:12] <kakakeke_> monde
[01:13] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, salut
[01:13] <kakakeke_> bien ou koi ??
[01:13] <kellemelle> #ubuntu-nl
[01:13] <onno> Hello, I got a small problem... Apache always asks after phtml... What should I change to the apache conf to accept Php
[01:13] <Turtlewind> tuxicity: yep, I'm still following you
[01:14] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, sudo mount -t usbfs /dev/hda /media/my_usb_drive
[01:14] <kakakeke_> do you speak french
[01:15] <XplOzIon> whats gkrell for?
[01:15] <kakakeke_> anno
[01:15] <kakakeke_> ??
[01:15] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, I do
[01:15] <kakakeke_> yes
[01:15] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, giving system stats like temperature, etc
[01:15] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, is it on the repos?
[01:15] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, bonjour :)
[01:15] <xorg> I'm trying to play streaming audio using mplayer I get error message ":[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"  what can I do to solve it?
[01:15] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, ya i think
[01:15] <kakakeke_> bonjour
[01:15] <kakakeke_> ;-)
[01:16] <Turtlewind> Tuxicity - thanks a lot!
[01:16] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, as ive said, never tested myself,
[01:16] <kakakeke_> il  parti
[01:16] <kakakeke_> anno
[01:16] <kakakeke_> c dommage
[01:16] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, hein qui?
[01:17] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, so 1)find out how the device is called
[01:17] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, and 2) mount it - the type is usbfs
[01:17] <Tuxicity> Turtlewind, and you're welcome, friend :)
[01:17] <xorg> I'm trying to play streaming audio using mplayer I get error message ":[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"  what can I do to solve it?
[01:18] <Plexys> hi, does anyone know a program that allows file access to my ubuntu system through a browser?
[01:19] <kakakeke_> plexys fo parler francais
[01:19] <xorg> Plexys: nautilus?
[01:19] <kakakeke_> sinon on compren rien
[01:19] <locomorto> Plexys: Look a FreeNX i think
[01:19] <Plexys> sorry, i meant remote access heh
[01:19] <locomorto> or SSH
[01:19] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, en fait ce canal est anglais
[01:19] <kakakeke_> a oui*
[01:20] <kakakeke_> je me sui tromp
[01:20] <kakakeke_> c vrai
[01:20] <Tuxicity> kakakeke_, voir #ubuntu-fr
[01:20] <kakakeke_> wai
[01:20] <kakakeke_> jy sui
[01:20] <infie> Anyone know how to set up a dual-head thingummy with the two screens distinct virtual screens
[01:20] <fresko> i've got a problem
[01:20] <infie> rather than one big wide screen?
[01:21] <fresko> i need to know how to boot a windowsxp partition in grub
[01:21] <Jimmothy> what's the name of a ubuntu cd burning program that's installed straight off?
[01:21] <Tuxicity> infie, ATI / nvidia?
[01:21] <infie> in this case matrox
[01:21] <fresko> because i introduce it in menu.lst
[01:21] <Tuxicity> infie, :X
[01:21] <infie> but I would have though the card wouldn't have mattered
[01:21] <fresko> but i can boot it up
[01:21] <infie> :X?
[01:22] <fresko> but i can't boot it up
[01:22] <XplOzIon> i cant find out how to set a sound theme :(
[01:22] <Tuxicity> infie, dont know nothing about matrox, sry
[01:23] <topyli> Jimmothy: the one embedded in nautilus
[01:23] <Tuxicity> infie, xinerama, i think
[01:23] <infie> to set up as one wide virtual screen, I fiddled with xorg.conf rather than with drivers
[01:23] <infie> I'm using xinerama
[01:23] <infie> and it works fine
[01:23] <infie> just trying to have a screen bound to a virtual desktop
[01:23] <infie> rather than both bound to one wide virtual desktop
[01:24] <shinu> A
[01:24] <shinu> what program lets me manage my services at startup?
[01:24] <topyli> shinu: update-rc.d
[01:24] <shinu> topyli: any other one? :D
[01:25] <topyli> shinu: or sysv-rc-conf for a more interactive approach
[01:25] <kellemelle> #ubuntu-de
[01:25] <xorg> shinu: rcconf
[01:26] <shinu> topyli: i dont have that command. did i have to apt-get something?
[01:26] <shinu> xorg: i dont have that either :(
[01:26] <Jimmothy> topyli: how?
[01:26] <Tuxicity> infie, you could use "xorgconfig" to help you, but backup your xorg.conf before
[01:26] <topyli> shinu: yes. sysv-rc-conf :)
[01:27] <xorg> sudo apt-get install rcconf
[01:27] <shinu> YES!
[01:27] <topyli> Jimmothy: open file manager, choose cd-creator from the Places menu. drag your files there and burn away
[01:27] <shinu> topyli: thanks a lot! thats the one ive been looking for! youre a god!!! :D
[01:28] <shinu> xorg: thanks :) ill check rcconf as well
[01:28] <topyli> Jimmothy: that's data only
[01:28] <Plexys> anyone have experience with installing webmin?
[01:28] <Jimmothy> how about audio?
[01:28] <topyli> shinu: no problem. deity status seems to come easy these days :)
[01:29] <Tuxicity> Jimmothy, install GnomeBaker
[01:29] <topyli> Jimmothy: then you need a more capable burner. gnometoaster or graveman perhaps
[01:29] <shinu> topyli: :)
[01:29] <topyli> Jimmothy: gnomebaker like Tuxicity says
[01:29] <Jimmothy> i installed gnomabaker and it hangs on start up
[01:30] <Tuxicity> Jimmothy, see installation instuctions on ubuntuguide.org
[01:30] <Jimmothy> ok
[01:30] <xorg> hello I've been trying to play an mp3 file using mplayer I get this error: "[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" no audio output? what should I do?
[01:30] <iluciv> what resolution settings are good for average tv??
[01:32] <shinu> thanks again for the help, bye :D
[01:32] <iluciv> I've got display working (ontv but its huge and black and white
[01:33] <Jimmothy> everytime i try open gnomebaker i get "application has quit unexpectedly"
[01:33] <Turtlewind> iluciv - black and white could be because you have it set to NTSC when you have a PAL TV (or vice versa)
[01:34] <HiddenWolf> Is there someone here who knows a lot about thunderbird?
[01:34] <topyli> Jimmothy: i've had that too in the past but works on this box. no idea what fails, it only affects a selected elite group of people :)
[01:35] <Jimmothy> odd
[01:35] <xorg> Is Ubuntu known for sound card problems I keep getting this playing audio:  [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp
[01:35] <topyli> Jimmothy: graveman might work better for you. the gnomebaker problem is old and AFAIK unsolved
[01:35] <Jimmothy> installed graveman, and seems to be working ok so far
[01:37] <Jimmothy> gah, i get an error as i click write
[01:37] <markuman> are there any other Font packages besides the larabie fonts ???
[01:37] <Jimmothy> something involving null
[01:37] <topyli> xorg: sounds more like a busy device
[01:37] <xorg> yes possibly
[01:37] <topyli> Jimmothy: hrm.
[01:37] <Goonie> Can ubuntu update drivers automatically?
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> goonie. linux doesnt have drivers as such
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> it has kernel modules
[01:38] <xorg> I've tried disabling alsa daemon
[01:38] <topyli> Kamping_Kaiser: sure it does. some modules are drivers, some are not
[01:39] <topyli> xorg: try killing esd first if it's running
[01:39] <xorg> ok
[01:39] <xorg> just top -> kill pid?
[01:39] <topyli> yes, or killall esd
[01:39] <Goonie> Kamping_Kaiser~ yes well.. you know what I mean.. the ipw2200 "driver" that got installed by default in hoary is 0.19 and it's known to be bugged... I don't know how to completely uninstall it and compile the 1.03 version
[01:39] <xorg> thanks
[01:41] <topyli> Jimmothy: next candidate is the distinguished xcdroast. never fails if your system can burn cds at all
[01:42] <xorg> topyli: that worked brilliant
[01:42] <topyli> xorg: do you want to use esd?
[01:42] <xorg> how do I stop esd starting in the first place
[01:43] <topyli> xorg: system -> preferences -> sound. untick the daemon thingy
[01:43] <Goonie> can anyone tell me how to uninstall ipw2200 completely?
[01:43] <xorg> i'll try that
[01:44] <topyli> xorg: then go to "multimedia systems selector" and change the gnome apps to use alsa instead of esd
[01:44] <barney> Any ideas why an internal Intel536EP modem is not responding, after bulding & installing the driver?
[01:44] <xorg> great thanks topyli
[01:45] <Tuxicity> barney, random ideas: conflicting drivers; module not loaded in proper order; out of ideas sry :>
[01:46] <topyli> xorg: but now you don't hear system sounds while listening to something else
[01:46] <topyli> like mail or chat notifications
[01:46] <Tuxicity> topyli, if he is not using ESD, is he using ALSA then? or OSS?
[01:47] <xorg> yes
[01:47] <barney> Tuxicity: Do you think it could confilct with the nvidia driver? Should I move the intel lien up in modules.conf?
[01:47] <larsrohdin> hi, im having troubles watching fullscreen in ogle...does someone know anything about that?
[01:47] <topyli> Tuxicity: it's a choice to make. i'd go for alsa, it's the 21th century :)
[01:47] <xorg> I think alsa & esd where started by default
[01:47] <iluciv> Turtlewind: I seem to have iut set to the right setting in xorg.conf "PAL-B" any other ideas and why is the picture so dam mlarge
[01:47] <black_Nightmare> any of you know if its possible to manually set the mobile cpu speed in a P3/700?
[01:47] <topyli> Tuxicity: ubuntu uses oss through an alsa layer anyway
[01:48] <black_Nightmare> its for an ibm T20 laptop
[01:48] <Tuxicity> topyli, oh it was a question, not a comment. can ALSA do audio mixing(i think it is the right term)?
[01:48] <topyli> Tuxicity: dunno, it's being worked on but don't know the status
[01:49] <xorg> thanks chaps you guys rock & Ubuntu is brilliant
[01:49] <topyli> Tuxicity: would be nice, we could get rid of daemons
[01:49] <Tuxicity> topyli, well, i mean playing more than 1 sound at once?
[01:49] <topyli> exactly
[01:50] <Tuxicity> topyli, oh got it now
[01:50] <topyli> i think it still relies on harware these days, ie my sb128 won't do that
[01:51] <topyli> Tuxicity: so we have these darn daemons, each worse than the other
[01:51] <mishof> Q: how am i supposed to open a chm file ? :O
[01:51] <Tuxicity> topyli, my card has full-duplex...
[01:52] <topyli> Tuxicity: then you might get lucky
[01:53] <Turtlewind> iluciv - Google tells me that the PAL resolution is 720 x 486. Perhaps you need to change your desktop resolution to match that?
[01:53] <Turtlewind> (that's just a guess; I've never connected a linux box to a TV before)
[01:53] <xiaogil> hotplug doesn't work at the boot, it stops the boot process, i have to type Ctrl+C to keep on booting, and then the internet doesn't work, what should i do to solve this problem ?
[01:53] <Turtlewind> oh, except with Geexbox, but that's already set up for it
[01:54] <Tuxicity> mishof, xchm
[01:55] <topyli> mishof: nobody knows what sort of file that is. filenames don't necessarily tell much on linux
[01:55] <Tuxicity> mishof, though it sounds like a Micro$oft Compiled Help file
[01:56] <mishof> on google it says compiled html
[01:56] <Tuxicity> mishof, which you can view with xchm
[01:56] <mishof> yeah i try it right now
[01:56] <poningru> what is the bonobo-activation-server?
[01:56] <rejser> Anyone that can do some kernel install support (not custom kernel, just apt-get install)
[01:57] <mishof> Tuxicity, thanks it works :-)
[01:57] <Tuxicity> mishof, thank the author of xchm ;)
[01:58] <drcoded> hi all
[01:59] <drcoded> I need some littel help with shorewall
[01:59] <Tuxicity> drcoded, hey
[01:59] <drcoded> I have setup iu
[01:59] <drcoded> iy
[01:59] <drcoded> it , and read theree manual
[01:59] <drcoded> I can ping from computer B into linux computer A
[01:59] <drcoded> and I also did the NAT option in shorewall.conf
[02:00] <drcoded> but still I cant get into the internet from computer B
[02:02] <infiel> anyone know how to switch between displays on a dual head setup?
[02:02] <infiel> non-ximerama
[02:03] <XplOzIon> can someone help me installing an bmp plugin called docklet?
[02:03] <XplOzIon> damn mp3 sounds soooooo much better in linux!
[02:03] <infiel> sound is sound xpl0zIon
[02:03] <infiel> sounds the same wherever
[02:04] <XplOzIon> naw
[02:04] <AvvY> mp3 is shite, u should use ogg vorbis
[02:04] <Tuxicity> infiel, no no nooo!
[02:04] <XplOzIon> :P
[02:04] <XplOzIon> he know im right
[02:04] <hunger> Is there something like debian/sid in ubuntu? How can I switch to that?
[02:04] <mjr> infiel, umm, even with non-xinerama dual head X setups you should be able to just move the cursor from a screen to another
[02:05] <mjr> hunger, it's currently breezy; in the usual way
[02:05] <XplOzIon> so can anyone help me to install that plugin?
[02:05] <topyli> infiel: everything feels better in linux, be it sound or whatever :)
[02:05] <Turtlewind> mp3 is shite, u should use ogg vorbis  <-- when my MP3 player starts being able to play Ogg, I will start ripping my CDs in that format
[02:05] <Turtlewind> before that, it's MP3 all the way
[02:05] <hunger> mjr: Ah! That was dead the last time I tried. Thanks!
[02:05] <AvvY> Turtlewind: thats why u dont buy a iPod, and u go for an iriver player which can play ogg vorbis ;)
[02:06] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, check BMP website for installing plugins
[02:06] <infiel> I don't want a iPod for the reason that I keep my music collection in ogg format
[02:06] <ulisse> I'm here again, I have a problem installing a second LAN card on my PC
[02:06] <infiel> the backups of my music cds
[02:06] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, i am.. but im kinda confused
[02:07] <ulisse> when I put in the card, I am unable to connect neither to the router nor to the LAN
[02:07] <hunger> Yahoo! gcc 4 in breezy:-)
[02:08] <ulisse> with ifup --verbose eth0 I get something like: "pump -i eth0" and then "failed"
[02:09] <ulisse> eth0 is connected to the router with DHCP, eth1 to the lan wint a fixed IP
[02:09] <XplOzIon> stupid german!.. gotta call my dad to translate lol!
[02:09] <infiel> hunger: its all about tcc :)
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> er?
[02:10] <hunger> infiel: tcc?
[02:12] <St0n3-C0l> hm...
[02:12] <St0n3-C0l> who prefers Slackware over Archlinux ;)
[02:13] <topyli> slackers do
[02:14] <AvvY> lol
[02:14] <St0n3-C0l> Archlinux system is like debian
[02:14] <St0n3-C0l> eh
[02:14] <topyli> exactly, and not much like slack :)
[02:14] <larsrohdin> what is the best program for playing dvd:s? both discs and .iso files...
[02:15] <St0n3-C0l> slack is stable ;)
[02:15] <St0n3-C0l> eh
[02:15] <St0n3-C0l> :>
[02:16] <St0n3-C0l> Slackware beats archlinux here ?
[02:16] <tck_> yeah but wheres the 64bit support
[02:16] <St0n3-C0l> ask Patrick
[02:16] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[02:16] <larsrohdin> what is the best program for playing dvd:s? both discs and .iso files... anyone?
[02:16] <St0n3-C0l> i don't have dvd-rom
[02:16] <St0n3-C0l> ;p
[02:17] <larsrohdin> aawww
[02:17] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, maybe xine?
[02:17] <St0n3-C0l> getting angry for ?
[02:18] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, it didnt have support for dvd-iso it said... ive tried totem-xine and it worked but it was laggy
[02:18] <XplOzIon> damn plugin and my noobish skill! cant install it (talking about docklet plugin for bmp)
[02:18] <gds> hi everybody
[02:19] <XplOzIon> hi
[02:19] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, cant you just put it in some /plugin folder?
[02:19] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, the best ive used was Ogle, but for some reason it wont show fullscreen anymore... do you know anything about that?
[02:19] <St0n3-C0l> topyli: I wanna install slackware and archlinux..confused :p
[02:19] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, im on it
[02:20] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, if i do tar -xxxx filename.tar /folder/folder it will extrack files to that folder??
[02:22] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, tar -xvvzf
[02:22] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, if it's tar.gz
[02:22] <Jefis> How to transfer files via ssh ?
[02:23] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, edit usr/share/ogle/oglerc
[02:23] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, edit /usr/share/ogle/oglerc
[02:23] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, ok ill try...
[02:23] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, its a tar.bz2
[02:23] <Riddell> Jefis: sco myfile<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:24] <Jefis> this for uploading/downloading?
[02:24] <Jefis> :)
[02:24] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, edit how? what line?=)
[02:24] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, find <fullscreen>no</fullscreen>
[02:24] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, change to yes
[02:24] <larsrohdin> yeah, but thats the same as pressing "F"... the window gets big but the movie is still small...
[02:25] <nydust> is there any alternatives to adobe illustrator?
[02:26] <topyli> St0n3-C0l: one system is quite enough. you don't gain much by supporting two systems, just extra work
[02:26] <XplOzIon> larsrohdin, heh i got same problem as you using mplayer. i coulndt fix it
[02:27] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, i had the same problem in mplayer but then i added zoom_yes to the config file...
[02:27] <larsrohdin> XplOzIon, =) try that
[02:27] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, tar -xvvjf
[02:27] <topyli> Jefis: scp is the command actuallly, not sco. it works both ways
[02:27] <St0n3-C0l> topyli: I know...but I'm confused in Archlinux's package management system and Slackware's stability
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> i've used Slackware before...
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> 9.1 and 10.0
[02:28] <topyli> St0n3-C0l: install debian or ubuntu if you want apt
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> haha
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> hahaha
[02:28] <Jefis> can somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> topyli: I use ubuntu :P
[02:29] <St0n3-C0l> my dear...thats why I'm here
[02:29] <St0n3-C0l> haha
[02:29] <topyli> isn't arch a downgrade then?
[02:29] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, can you tell me the cmd to change the owner of a user again please? im writing everything from now on :P
[02:30] <St0n3-C0l> topyli: really ??
[02:30] <gds> How can I find a channel where they speak in english?
[02:30] <topyli> on irc? theres no such channel
[02:30] <larsrohdin> gds, we speak english...
[02:31] <gds> topyli, yes, I want to learn english
[02:31] <Jimmothy> haha
[02:31] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, sudo chown -R username:username /dir/file
[02:31] <HiddenWolf> Is there a support channel for thunderbird somewhere?
[02:31] <gds> Jimmothy, ahahah
[02:31] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, thank you!
[02:32] <gds> larsrohdin, you always speak about linux here
[02:33] <Jefis> can somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)
[02:33] <topyli> gds: here you'll learn a non-language that resembles english sometimes, and the rest is unix system calls :)
[02:34] <gds> topyli, you're right :-) Can you suggest me some channel?
[02:35] <nydust> how can i open psd files in linux?
[02:35] <topyli> St0n3-C0l: hey, apparently arch is not a debian thingy after all
[02:36] <scizzo> nydust: isn't that photoshop format?
[02:36] <larsrohdin> gds, yeah, its a ubuntu-channel...
[02:36] <scizzo> nydust: in that case GIMP has support to open them
[02:36] <nydust> scizzo, not my gimp
[02:36] <gds> larsrohdin, off course... :-)
[02:37] <Delph> HiddenWolf: check the mozilla site, they probably have an ircd somewhere.
[02:37] <scizzo> nydust: you need to get the non-free one
[02:37] <scizzo> nydust: because it is a format that is not open source an stuff like that
[02:37] <nydust> scizzo, non free gimp?
[02:37] <scizzo> yes
[02:38] <scizzo> nydust: or the lib for it
[02:38] <admx> really
[02:38] <topyli> gds: i don't know. i'm only on tech channels really. some general discussion channels may mind their language more. but on irc, the official language is bad english really
[02:38] <scizzo> nydust: did you compile GIMP?
[02:38] <smouche> also known as "bad English".
[02:38] <nydust> scizzo, no use that one that came with ubuntu
[02:39] <scizzo> nydust: then look for the one in universe
[02:39] <scizzo> nydust: or multiverse
[02:40] <gds> ok topyli , thank you
[02:40] <nydust> scizzo, WHERE???
[02:41] <scizzo> nydust: in synaptic
[02:41] <nydust> aha
[02:41] <admx> I'm using Gnome's  netapplet to monitor wireless networks. Does anyone use a better app to do this? Tried but failed to get NetworkMonitor to work with Ubuntu 5.04
[02:42] <scizzo> nydust: remember that PSD is hard to support
[02:43] <scizzo> nydust: CMYK stuff might not work and so on
[02:43] <markuman> where are the packages whitch i installed with syaptic?
[02:43] <markuman> /usr/share/...???
[02:43] <scizzo> nydust: and if you really want to edit PSD files it is hard depending on how it is build up
[02:43] <scizzo> nydust: and also remember that PS != GIMP
[02:43] <nydust> scizzo, oki, i just need to open a file, and look at it.. Its strane cause a opensource project has the install manual on a psd file
[02:44] <scizzo> nydust: look for a library that is called libpsd or something then
[02:44] <nydust> thanks
[02:44] <Harpi> hi everybody...i have a small matter... when i boot my computer it at a step over 2/3 times... i have written the steps which are "-Cleaning up ifupdown -calculating module dependencies -loading modules" and then it is freezed, i can't do anything just reboot ... do u have any idea ?
[02:45] <scizzo> if you want gif support in GIMP as a good example then I think you need non-free of GIMP
[02:45] <admx> Does anyone know if there are any good books dealing with Ubuntu?
[02:45] <Jefis> can somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)
[02:46] <LinuxJones> admx, a recent Debian book should be ok for most stuff
[02:46] <LinuxJones> admx, I don't know of any Ubuntu books atm
[02:47] <DXT> admx: ever tried man-pages? :-)
[02:47] <Harpi> nobody has already seen my prob
[02:47] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, hey
[02:48] <topyli> admx install the debian documentation packages with synaptic. debian-reference and apt-howto at least
[02:48] <admx> LinuxJones do you know any good titles. Yes I use Man pages
[02:48] <Kinsei> I just accidentally killed grub and man it's a pain to put back (I gave up)
[02:48] <scizzo> admx: I think you can follow a lot of the Debian books to handle ubuntu
[02:48] <admx> thanks topyli I will give them a look
[02:48] <nydust> One more problem, I have installed mysql-client and mysql-server with apache2 modules ect.. But my mamboserver install says that i dosent have mysql support.. What can the problem bee?
[02:48] <nydust> be
[02:48] <LinuxJones> admx, I think there is a new Debian Bible but I'm not sure how old it is
[02:48] <admx> cool
[02:49] <scizzo> nydust: sounds like a missing lib you need....I don't think the headers are comming with those packages...
[02:49] <admx> I'll also head to the book store to look for it
[02:49] <topyli> i think it deals with upgrading potato to woody with the new "apt" system :)
[02:50] <Harpi> well...
[02:50] <LinuxJones> admx, Debian Bible is excellent I had a very old copy a few years back :)
[02:50] <scizzo> nydust: the headers are often placed in the libprogram-dev packages
[02:50] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, hey?
[02:50] <nydust> scizzo, thanks
[02:51] <scizzo> nydust: it could also be the mysql-common package
[02:51] <admx> I'll check Boarders and B&N
[02:51] <nydust> scizzo, common package is installed, so i will try to install the dev package
[02:51] <alex> hi all
[02:51] <LinuxJones> admx, it should be easy to buy online as well
[02:51] <admx> true
[02:52] <LinuxJones> alex, hiya
[02:52] <Harpi> nobody have any idea...??
[02:52] <rejser> anyone that have an idea why I can't apt-get install linux-k7 (it ends with error, and if I reboot I get Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0),  mkinitrd can't make initrd.img
[02:52] <scizzo> nydust: it sounds like a missing package anyway...
[02:52] <alex> hi LinuxHones
[02:53] <alex> hi LinuxJones
[02:53] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:53] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, hey what?
[02:54] <Kinsei> if I install a new kernel, will it also put itself in the grub menu?
[02:55] <iluciv> is nvtv a module???
[02:55] <nydust> I want too thank you all... UBUNTU community rocks. And i have gone from windows to ubuntu and has been using it for 4 weeks now, and i will not look back.
[02:55] <theD3viL> i installed kernel-image and headers, now what ?
[02:56] <St0n3-C0l> nydust: Thankyou :>
[02:57] <alex> wow, nydust, i did move 3 weeks ago, it's cool, isn't it?
[02:57] <rejser> Kinsei: if everything goes alright it will
[02:57] <jazzka> is it possible to use a gdesklet to see if a gmail acount has new mail?
[02:58] <Kinsei> rejser: I had to uninstall grub and install lilo to get my machine to boot, but now I'd like to fix it properly back to how it was.
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> it is
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> get gdesklets-data
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> or http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org
[02:58] <jazzka> St0n3-C0l, ok, but which gdesklet?
[02:59] <rejser> Kinsei: install grub aagain?
[02:59] <nydust> alex, yeah... I use this lap top. As an office computer at my office, so i will soon switch all the computers to ubuntu. Thats 25 clients, then we are windows free.
[02:59] <Kinsei> I can install it, and run update-grub and grub-install
[02:59] <nydust> and we will save alot of money..
[02:59] <larsrohdin> nydust, Nice;)
[02:59] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, hey please type "xvinfo | grep adaptors" in terminal
[03:00] <Kinsei> when I boot I just get an error about the kernel file being not found
[03:00] <Kinsei> lilo however works
[03:00] <nydust> I was so tierd of virus, and i use tre - four ahou
[03:00] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, no adaptors present
[03:00] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, OH OH
[03:00] <nydust> ahours every week on removing virus on the clients
[03:00] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, sounds bad=)
[03:00] <rejser> Kinsei: how do /boot/grub/menu.lst look?
[03:00] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, that's why Ogle does not fullscreen
[03:01] <nydust> just that are 450$ saved per week ;)
[03:01] <larsrohdin> ok... so what do i do...
[03:01] <Kinsei> rejser: it's never changed since I installed
[03:01] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, video card? nvidia or ati?
[03:01] <larsrohdin> ati
[03:01] <alex> nydust, i own 2 computers, i only changed my laptop to ubuntu
[03:01] <nydust> thats alot of beer
[03:01] <nydust> nice
[03:01] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, did you install the binary driver (fglrx) ?
[03:01] <larsrohdin> yes
[03:01] <rejser> Kinsei: have you looked if it seems alright?
[03:01] <engie> Hi. I've installed gnome-phone-manager. What pin do I enter on my phone when I connect to it with my PC?
[03:02] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, hmm 3d accel works?
[03:02] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, how do i know that?
[03:02] <Kinsei> it looks fine to me, but it's a fairly confusing file
[03:02] <nydust> scizzo, i use mysql 4.1 do you thing i shuld try 4.0?
[03:03] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, type in terminal "glxinfo | grep direct"
[03:03] <larsrohdin> direct rendering: Yes
[03:03] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, that's fine
[03:04] <nydust> nydust = new idiot on norwegian ;)
[03:04] <nydust> ups wrong channel
[03:04] <nydust> ;)
[03:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[03:05] <nydust> Its just one thing i really miss on linux. And its a CRM program..
[03:05] <St0n3-C0l> CRM ?
[03:05] <nydust> www.superoffice.com
[03:05] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, so... whats next?
[03:06] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, look at thet link
[03:06] <membreya> with the man-db in cron.daily, do I need to worry about dangling symlink messages?
[03:06] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, Customor releasionship manager
[03:07] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, its a neat software to keep track on you costumers...
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> hm..
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> what type of relationship :P
[03:08] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, pure biz ;)
[03:08] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, you can use it too keep trach on your dates too
[03:08] <nydust> ;)
[03:08] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[03:09] <membreya> my GOD that's poor english nydust
[03:09] <nydust> but i think the good old blackbook do the jobb
[03:09] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, confusion, lol
[03:09] <larsrohdin> lol... yeah i usually cause that...
[03:09] <nydust> membreya, sorry
[03:09] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, im searching for the solution...
[03:10] <nydust> St0n3-C0l, you can use it to keep track on your date's to
[03:11] <nydust> membreya, betther?
[03:11] <cusco> hi
[03:11] <bet0x> Hello all :d
[03:11] <cusco> is there any wma to ogg/mp3/wav converter?
[03:11] <bet0x> waza dudesssssss
[03:11] <cusco> please
[03:11] <membreya> bet0x: ...any relation to botox?
[03:11] <cusco> hi bet0x
[03:11] <bet0x> no
[03:12] <bet0x> Im "AlberT" or "Alberto"
[03:12] <cusco> Alberto is a common name here in Portugal
[03:12] <bet0x> im from Argentina
[03:12] <bet0x> :)
[03:13] <Tuxicity> cusco, transcode
[03:13] <Tuxicity> cusco, it's mostly for video, maybe it does wma...?
[03:15] <bet0x> my name its a "Real name"
[03:15] <bet0x> im noble
[03:15] <bet0x> :p
[03:15] <Tuxicity> cusco, my mistake, transcode is for audio and video
[03:16] <membreya> cusco: http://www.linux.com/howtos/MP3-CD-Burning/audio.shtml
[03:17] <guruff> lool; can anyone help me with setting up services that are startet at boot ?
[03:17] <iluciv> membreya: know much about nvtv??
[03:17] <membreya> none
[03:17] <membreya> i dont use it
[03:17] <iluciv> damm
[03:17] <Airo> hmm, is there a ppc specific ubuntu channel?
[03:17] <membreya> i just use twinview
[03:17] <membreya> like a real man
[03:17] <smouche> cuzco -- here's a "free GPL'd" program that claims ability to reencode mp3/ogg/wma to mp3/ogg:
[03:18] <smouche> http://www.mbox.wz.cz/
[03:18] <iluciv> meh
[03:18] <smouche> I haven't tried it though
[03:19] <iluciv> I got it working sorta just black and white display that to big for the tv
[03:19] <membreya> unflex then little man :P
[03:20] <smouche> oops sorry cusco, I mispelled your nick -- look at this page:  http://www.mbox.wz.cz/
[03:20] <Tuxicity> cusco, sudo apt-get install gtranscode
[03:21] <membreya> why not just use the link I provided, it lets you do it all from the command line
[03:22] <Bhodi> 'afternoon
[03:22] <Tuxicity> membreya, transcode is command-line, gtranscode graphical
[03:23] <smouche> wow, membreya, didn't know mplayer could do conversion... cool
[03:23] <membreya> now I just have to install it to test it :P
[03:23] <iluciv> LOL
[03:24] <Bhodi> does anyone have tips on getting sound to work with a soundblaster live card?
[03:24] <iluciv> sorry was away
[03:24] <mjr> Bhodi, should work out of the box
[03:24] <mjr> Bhodi, if you have an onboard sound in addition, it might be used by default
[03:24] <Bhodi> mjr: I thought so to but it doesn't :(
[03:25] <Bhodi> mjr: i do have onboard sound but i can't find a place to select the one i want
[03:25] <membreya> just did the test, it converts perfectly :)
[03:26] <guruff> anyone has an idea about what services are critically needed for ubuntu; like if i have a low profile machine do i need lvm or evms <- and what are those ?
[03:27] <Kinsei> lvm is logical volume manager and I'm fairly sure you don't need it
[03:27] <membreya> Bhodi: you need to disable the onboard sound in your BIOS
[03:27] <guruff> Kinsei; what about evms ?
[03:27] <Kinsei> no idea
[03:27] <Bhodi> membreya: can give that a try, thnx
[03:28] <john__> What does it mean: /dev/hdb1 has been mounted 30 times without being checked.
[03:28] <membreya> john_: it means that you've rebooted 30 times
[03:28] <smouche> membreya, which does, the  command line or gtranscode?
[03:28] <membreya> and it needs to fsck it
[03:28] <membreya> smouche: the command line
[03:28] <membreya> with mplayer
[03:28] <membreya> it creates a file called audiodump.wav
[03:28] <smouche> good.  nice to put mplayer to good use, thanks
[03:28] <john__> okay. How can I check it?
[03:28] <membreya> bear in mind, you can't convert a file that has spaces :P
[03:29] <membreya> john_: what do you mean how can you check? your system tells you :P
[03:29] <john__> It doesen't matter. It checks it by itself anyway.
[03:29] <davix> if i manually installed a program, how can i make a link for it in the gdm <applications -> other> menu?
[03:33] <Bhodi> membreya: disabling onboard in bios did the trick, thnx!
[03:35] <membreya> Bhodi: np..it's a known problem with SB and onboard :)
[03:38] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, found anything yet?
[03:38] <stephen_> HI. I'm running hoary on a nforce2 based athlon system with a geforce 6600 gt board. Every so often (couple of hours or so I guess) X completely locks up
[03:39] <stephen_> I can SSH in and I see that the xorg log sais AUDIT: Sun Apr 24 14:11:28 2005: 6254 X: client 38 rejected from local host. What could cause this?
[03:39] <stephen_> My puter is unusable, I have to hit the power button to shut it down. CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't work.
[03:39] <membreya> stephen_: can you still move the mouse?
[03:40] <stephen_> membreya: Yes
[03:40] <stephen_> Everything redraws underneath it fine
[03:40] <membreya> stephen_: disabled renderaccel in your xorg.conf
[03:40] <membreya> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7183
[03:40] <stephen_> Is it better to run the nvidia drivers?
[03:40] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, somehow related to fglrx, xv... vague, i know
[03:41] <larsrohdin> hmmm...
[03:41] <Kinsei> that also happens to me; it's extremely infuriating
[03:41] <Kinsei> but it seems to have stopped now that I added a certain line to xorg.conf
[03:41] <membreya> stephen_: doesn't make a different really
[03:41] <Kinsei>         Option          "NvAgp" "1"
[03:41] <Kinsei> in the Device section
[03:42] <Kinsei> fyi disabling renderaccel didn't solve it for me
[03:42] <membreya> Kinsei: that just tells xorg to use nvagp
[03:42] <Toinou> hey salut :)
[03:42] <membreya> renderaccel fixed it for me
[03:42] <stephen_> will try renderaccel
[03:42] <stephen_> Thanks
[03:42] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, i am installing fglrx on my box right now. i'll be back in a few moments
[03:42] <Toinou> Petite question : J'ai XP sur mon PC et je voudrais avoir un linux dans les heures qui viennent, quelles tapes de dois suivre ?
[03:42] <stephen_> (Am running standard ubuntu drivers btw)
[03:42] <larsrohdin> ok, thanks for taking time...
[03:42] <Kinsei> stephen_: check dmesg for a line about nvagp when the problem happens
[03:43] <Tuxicity> Toinou, #ubuntu-fr
[03:43] <trygvebw> Hi, which package is dh_make in?
[03:43] <geewz> heya, can anyone help this NooB with gpg key stuff/
[03:43] <geewz> ?
[03:43] <membreya> stephen_: are you running nvidia or nv
[03:43] <stephen_> membreya: nv
[03:43] <Toinou> tks Tuxicity
[03:43] <membreya> hmmmmm v.odd
[03:43] <Tuxicity> Toinou, de rien
[03:44] <stephen_> membreya: Does nv do accelerated rendering?
[03:44] <membreya> not well.
[03:44] <stephen_> I'll try the nvidia drivers
[03:45] <patoch> yah
[03:46] <patoch> do u speack english or french ?
[03:46] <larsrohdin>  english here
[03:46] <patoch> oki thanks
[03:46] <b0ol> hey
[03:46] <nikls> I had problem to start ubuntu today due to "hotplug subsystem" load, I think, do someone also had this problem?
[03:46] <patoch> where is the chan to french ?
[03:47] <patoch> don't exist
[03:47] <patoch> excuz me for my english
[03:47] <b0ol> damn
[03:47] <b0ol> i cant install mplayer :/
[03:47] <malte> hi, i'm running ubuntu as a server and apache 2 on it. it seems to get restarted every once in a while, why might that be?
[03:47] <b0ol> i always get errormsgs
[03:47] <b0ol> :/
[03:47] <malte> apache gets restarted, not ubuntu :)
[03:48] <b0ol> mplayer-386:
[03:48] <b0ol>  Hngt ab: libavcodeccvs aber es wird nicht installiert
[03:48] <b0ol>   Hngt ab: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) aber 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 wird installiert
[03:48] <b0ol>   Hngt ab: libfontconfig1 (>=2.3.0) aber 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 wird installiert
[03:48] <b0ol>  Hngt ab: libpostproc0 aber es wird nicht installiert
[03:48] <b0ol>   Hngt ab: libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) aber 1.0.1-1 wird installiert
[03:48] <b0ol>   Hngt ab: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20
[03:48] <nikls> bOol: I also got this error
[03:48] <malte> the thing is it's quite annoying, because i need to manually enter a password for ssl every time apache restarts
[03:48] <larsrohdin> patoch, no problem... most persons in here understand bad english too=) I'm not english either...
[03:48] <nikls> cancel nerim from source.lst then it will work
[03:49] <nikls> you can put it back after if you want
[03:49] <b0ol> nerim?
[03:49] <b0ol> complete name
[03:49] <b0ol> ?
[03:51] <nikls> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:52] <nikls> did you found it?
[03:52] <topyli> b0ol:
[03:52] <topyli> grep nerim.net /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <topyli> should be commented
[03:53] <topyli> # deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[03:53] <b0ol> got it already :)
[03:53] <b0ol> thn
[03:53] <nikls> do someone had problem on boot with "hotplug subsystem"?
[03:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> nikls some ppl have
[03:53] <geewz> topyli, what's wrong with Marillat??
[03:54] <nikls> Kamping_Kaiser: how did you fixed it?
[03:54] <toffy> how do I mount a nfts with  char?
[03:54] <topyli> geewz: nothing. probably his unstable is out of sync with hoary, there are dependency problems
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> nikls dont know sorry, just remember someone else having the probloem
[03:55] <topyli> some packages will work, others won't
[03:55] <nikls> Kamping_Kaiser: no need to apologyze
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/ i should remember
[03:56] <bet0x> Err http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages
[03:56] <bet0x>   500 Internal Server Error
[03:56] <geewz> topyli, I'm not happy that Marillat is mentioned in Ubuntu guide ... and backport's is still not working for me ...
[03:56] <bet0x> its down backports?
[03:56] <geewz> betox beat me to it!
[03:56] <nikls> i tryied "/etc/ini.d/hotplug start" but with the same result
[03:57] <topyli> geewz: his packages are good, but they shouldn't be advertised for ubuntu
[03:57] <bet0x> geewz, ?
[03:57] <bet0x> geewz, what u say?
[03:57] <ermo> toffy, danish?
[03:57] <toffy> ermo, yes or norwegian
[03:57] <toffy> :)
[03:58] <ermo> toffy, hrrm, I meant 'do you speak danish'?
[03:58] <toffy> ermo, I mount my windows ntfs but i cant find files with  in it
[03:58] <toffy> ermo, ja
[03:58] <ermo> toffy, I'll /query you
[03:59] <geewz> bet0x, you mentioned the backports problem before me
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> toffy, whats the line you mounted with say?
[03:59] <bet0x> geewz, :D
[03:59] <bet0x> geewz, down aparently
[03:59] <larsrohdin> toffy, hey then we're practically neighbors! im swedish=)
[03:59] <toffy> Kamping_Kaiser, ehh what do you meen?
[04:00] <bet0x> We are in the process of moving to a FreeBSD server. There may be a temporary outage.
[04:00] <bet0x> Getting 403 Forbidden Errors? You must be using the old ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net repository. Please update with http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports
[04:00] <toffy> larsrohdin, hi then
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> toffy, did you mount from the command line or from fstab?
[04:00] <geewz> bet0x, down for a few days, not quite satisfactory ...
[04:00] <toffy> Kamping_Kaiser, I have tryed both
[04:00] <larsrohdin> toffy, hi
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats the line in your fstab say? can you put it here?
[04:00] <toffy> Kamping_Kaiser, but I cant find files that have  in it
[04:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, so what does your fstab say? its probably what you have there
[04:01] <toffy> Kamping_Kaiser, its the line from ubuntugudes
[04:01] <Xappe> toffy add a nls=utf8 to the mount options
[04:01] <TechLord_Work> Kamping_kaiser i switched from kubuntu to ubuntu last night and could not be happier
[04:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) cool. going ok?
[04:02] <Xappe> hmm, or should it be iocharset?
[04:02] <toffy> Xappe, ok soo /dev/hda1 /media/win ntfs umask=0222 nls=utf8 0 ?
[04:02] <ermo> Xappe, man 8 mount says nls
[04:02] <TechLord_Work> yep have xine my cd rom mount automagically and so do my usb hdd and
[04:02] <TechLord_Work> only problem is i cant get my builtin card reader to work
[04:03] <Xappe> ermo: as thought then
[04:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( sounding better though
[04:03] <TechLord_Work> yep lots the card reader seems to be a problem across the bord with ever distribution i've read about
[04:03] <Xappe> toffy: umask=0222,nls=utf8
[04:05] <ermo> Xappe, do you know whether the options 'utf8,nls=utf8' are redundant or just complimentary?
[04:05] <Xappe> ermo: I have no idea
[04:05] <Spirit7609> hi guys! just installed.. looks nice but - Ubuntu didn't ask me for a root passwd.. strange. is there a default?
[04:06] <TechLord_Work> there is no root password by default it uses sudo
[04:06] <ermo> toffy, anyway, load the nfs_utf8 module with 'sudo /sbin/modprobe nls_utf8' before you try asking mount to use utf8 mappings
[04:06] <toffy> Xappe, tnz no I find my files
[04:06] <Spirit7609> but sudo also asks for the passwd
[04:06] <TechLord_Work> your user password
[04:06] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, I have to go now, but ill be back later or some other day...
[04:06] <toffy> ermo, ok but it works now then
[04:06] <Spirit7609> oh nice
[04:06] <Spirit7609> thanks :-)
[04:06] <TechLord_Work> by default the first user you created at startup time is in the suoders list
[04:07] <ermo> toffy, oh goody!
[04:07] <Spirit7609> ok, when you're used to other distros, this is kind of strange.. but I'll get it. thanks again
[04:07] <TechLord_Work> np
[04:08] <chase> is there some thing special i have to do to get my PCMCIA card reognised? Ive got pcmcia pcmcia_core yenta_socket and ndiswrapper loaded in the kernel and /etc/init.d/pcmcia is running but when i plug the card in i dont see any out put in /var/log/messages? is there somethign im missing
[04:09] <TechLord_Work> what type of card is it?
[04:09] <elshadii> I have reciently aquired a router and am trying to learn samba do you guys know a good tutorial for newbies?
[04:10] <chase> TechLord_Work, Linksys wireless card
[04:10] <Thorrn4> hello!!! Im very new to Linux; I was wondering are there any benefits of Using ubuntu of kubuntu?
[04:10] <trygvebw> If you like GNOME better than KDE, use Ubuntu. If it's the other way around, use Kubuntu.
[04:11] <TechLord_Work> i personally find ubuntu more stable
[04:11] <Thorrn4> more stable?
[04:11] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, it depends on if you like using Gnome or KDE. Other than that they have the same core components
[04:11] <WillCooke> elshadii, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:11] <elshadii> thanks WillCooke
[04:11] <WillCooke> elshadii, Google is your friend!
[04:11] <chase> i installed ubuntu then just removed the gnome apps and installed kde stuff and stability seems fine
[04:12] <Insom> hi all
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:12] <elcu> Thorrn4: less crashes
[04:12] <Thorrn4> so, ubuntu would be a beginner's linux, easy 2 use and install?
[04:12] <trygvebw> Yep.
[04:12] <membreya> aside from cpu family 15, model 12 (as appears in /proc/cpuinfo), is there any way to tell the family NAME of the CPU you're running?
[04:12] <Insom> any of u guys run ubuntu on hp pavilion?
[04:12] <trygvebw> Ubuntu is designed to be easy to use.
[04:12] <Kartagis> why does apt-get have to remove libqt3-dev when getting KDE?
[04:12] <AiYori> hi all
[04:13] <ivo_> hello every one
[04:13] <Insom> hi
[04:13] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, I would run the LiveCD for a few days to get the feel of Linux, before attempting an install
[04:13] <AiYori> i don't undersand why i don't arrive to read mp3 files it say that i vnt got the plugin
[04:13] <ivo_> who wants to help me with a question I have???
[04:13] <trygvebw> Yeah, try a LiveCD. :)
[04:13] <Insom> i have a question about my s3 savage video card on my hp laptop
[04:13] <Insom> pitaj stari
[04:13] <elcu> AiYori: ubuntuguide.org
[04:14] <membreya> AiYori: mp3 codecs dont ship by default
[04:14] <Thorrn4> LinuxJones, should I only test the live cd and installed from the INSTALL CD or install from the live cd?
[04:14] <ivo_> i want to install java_sdk, but in wich directory must the selfextracting package must be extracted??
[04:14] <TechLord_Work> chase what do you see if you do a lspci
[04:14] <trygvebw> Thorrn4: You try the LiveCD, and install from the Install CD :)
[04:14] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, you can't do an install from the LiveCD as of yet. :(
[04:14] <Thorrn4> oh, ok
[04:14] <Thorrn4> oh....
[04:14] <Thorrn4> aight then thanx!!
[04:14] <elcu> Thorrn4: not from an ubuntu live cd
[04:15] <Thorrn4> I'll start to d/l them now
[04:15] <ivo_> i want to install java_sdk, but in wich directory must the selfextracting package must be extracted??
[04:15] <Thorrn4> Im been convinced!!!
[04:15] <Insom> ivo_: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:15] <Thorrn4> s/Im/I've
[04:15] <trygvebw> Thorrn4: :)
[04:15] <LinuxJones> heh
[04:15] <P2OG> check this google map for the heck of it, Triagle with Circles inside it out in the middle of nowhere nevada
[04:15] <P2OG> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.627187,-116.847925&spn=0.024161,0.031672&t=k&hl=en
[04:15] <trygvebw> P2OG, scarry XD
[04:15] <chase> TechLord_Work, im not seeing a change when having the card in out out
[04:16] <Thorrn4> In advance, how can I uninstall the GNOME and install KDE?
[04:16] <ivo_> doesn't any one know that in here?
[04:16] <mipfi> know anyone a way how to start ET with ESD ?
[04:16] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, it's easy
[04:16] <trygvebw> Thorrn4: Remove gnomelibs with Synaptic, and install the kde package :)
[04:16] <AiYori> thx elcu, membreya
[04:16] <elcu> Thorrn4: you can have both of them.
[04:16] <Insom> ivo: just check out this link http://ubuntuguide.org/ there is a howto in installing java on ubuntu
[04:17] <barto-kun> P2OG: go down a bit, and there's a gun sight
[04:17] <Insom> in = on
[04:17] <TechLord_Work> chase i don't think that the system is seeing the card.  what do you get if you try and iwconfig
[04:17] <Insom> does anyone know where to get s3 savage drivers for ubuntu?
[04:17] <elcu> why don't they include the ubuntuguide link in the #ubuntu topic? :)
[04:17] <Thorrn4> elcu, I try GNOME out then......I hate GNOME 1.4 in Solaris 9!!!! IT CRASHED ON ME SOOOO MUCH....I have nightmares
[04:18] <trygvebw> Thorrn4: GNOME 1.4 is TOTALLY different from GNOME 2.10 :)
[04:18] <LinuxJones> Thorrn4, Gnome 2.10 is much better :)
[04:18] <mwh_> hello, im trying to compile beagle-0.0.9 but I get stuck with the following error msg during configure:
[04:18] <elcu> heh, what trygvebw said.
[04:18] <mwh_> configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages
[04:18] <mwh_> I use hoary
[04:18] <chase> lo        no wireless extensions. / eth0      no wireless extensions. / sit0      no wireless extensions.
[04:18] <Thorrn4> ok, I started downloading it
[04:18] <mwh_> and I cant seem to find the package which contains that header
[04:18] <trygvebw> mwh_, Beagle 0.0.9 won't install on Hoary, sorry :)
[04:19] <kanuha> mipfi, did you try this "echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" ?
[04:19] <trygvebw> Thorrn4, good luck :)
[04:19] <chase> TechLord_Work, i dont know what the sit0 can from thought?
[04:19] <mwh_> trygvebw: why?
[04:19] <Tsuroerusu> Yo Guys! Except for the "official ubuntu" kernel I have a full Ubuntu system running on my Xbox
[04:19] <trygvebw> mwh_, It requires a newer Mono version :)
[04:19] <trygvebw> Tsuroerusu, congrats :)
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. lol
[04:19] <elcu> Thorrn4: for the future, read ubuntuguide.org and visit the ubuntu forums first.  it will save us from having to tell you so.
[04:19] <mwh_> trygvebw: I have a newer version of Mono
[04:19] <P2OG> Here's another good strange design GOOGLE MAPS -> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.401087,-116.865864&spn=0.008165,0.010450&t=k&hl=en
[04:19] <trygvebw> mwh_: Which one?
[04:19] <mwh_> trygvebw: 1.1.6
[04:19] <TechLord_Work> the system does not see and/or recognize the card
[04:19] <trygvebw> ok :)
[04:20] <Tsuroerusu> 1.4
[04:20] <eskaypey> hey ubuntu is a bit slow on boot up??
[04:20] <mwh_> trygvebw: the problem I have is the thing I mentioned before
[04:20] <mwh_> trygvebw: configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages
[04:20] <trygvebw> mwh_: You need the xscreensaver libs and dev files
[04:20] <Tuxicity> eskaypey, Warty?
[04:20] <trygvebw> Howait.
[04:20] <chase> TechLord_Work, if its not seeing the card am i missing somethign in linux then? something not loaded in the kerenel or somthing?
[04:20] <eskaypey> yeah
[04:20] <mwh_> okay how to get them? .. what are they named
[04:21] <Thorrn4> elcu, I just had a few questions, that could quickly be answered; I didnt want to bother anyone, but everyone seemed contant on helping me
[04:21] <trygvebw> libxss-dev
[04:21] <trygvebw> mwh_: libxss-dev
[04:21] <mwh_> ahh
[04:21] <mwh_> thanks
[04:21] <trygvebw> np :)
[04:21] <Tuxicity> eskaypey, Warty was a bit slow as I recall. Hoary is faster
[04:21] <mwh_> why the heck is it named like that .. grr :)
[04:21] <trygvebw> :)
[04:22] <TechLord_Work> chase which version of the card do you have
[04:22] <elcu> Thorrn4: yeah, its ok.  i was just saying it for later, when you wonder why you can't play dvds or mp3s.
[04:22] <melodie> hello all
[04:22] <Thorrn4> does Ubuntu use apt-get? because that is what Im kinda use 2
[04:22] <Thorrn4> Kaffeine plays that stuff
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> it does use apt
[04:22] <trygvebw> Thorrn4, yes
[04:22] <Thorrn4> elcu, kaffeine, the front for xine, can play DVDs and MP3s; its nice
[04:24] <chase> TechLord_Work, Ver 1.2 its WPC54G
[04:24] <Thorrn4> thanks for all your help guys....I'll be back if I cannot install Ubuntu or get it 2 work, lol :D
[04:24] <trygvebw> Thorrn4, good luck :)
[04:27] <Thorrn4> one last thing! does Ubuntu wipe the hd to install itself? for do I have 2 use another program 2 do that?
[04:27] <ivo_> what do I use for compiling *.java in ubuntu??
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> thorrn4 if youwant it to wipe the hdd it will
[04:28] <Thorrn4> ok Kamping_Kaiser thanx
[04:28] <Thorrn4> bye again!!!
[04:28] <barto-kun> Thorrn4: it gives you the option to erase the drive, but there's a manual disk setup wizard if you don't want it to
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:28] <TechLord_Work> chase do you know what the chipset is in that card
[04:28] <Thorrn4> 20 more minutes until it is d/l
[04:28] <Thorrn4> I'll check back in later
[04:29] <Thorrn4> lol
[04:29] <ivo_> what do I use for compiling *.java in ubuntu??
[04:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> ffs, what you using for adsl? 1mb? thorrn4?
[04:29] <chase> TechLord_Work, no give me a sec
[04:30] <XplOzIon> anyone know how to fix amsn crash?
[04:30] <dcraven> ivo_: javac
[04:31] <ivo_> yes i know
[04:31] <timmow> Ive been having memory issues and i just found my swap was not working.  I had to do mkswap /dev/hda4 and then swapon /dev/hda4
[04:31] <ivo_> but i installed sdk, but I don't have javac!!!
[04:31] <markdrago> Is there a package I can pull in that will get most everything I need to do gnome development on ubuntu?
[04:31] <timmow> Anyone know why, or how I can check it is set up properly?
[04:31] <ivo_> do i have to install something else, or make a "ln -s"???
[04:31] <dcraven> ivo_: check for it in /usr/bin
[04:32] <chase> TechLord_Work, no i cant find it, i just probablly be looking in the wrong place
[04:32] <Insom> how do i refresh repositories
[04:32] <dcraven> ivo_: locate javac
[04:33] <ivo_> i only have java!!
[04:33] <markdrago> Or is there a package that will pull in all of the autotools stuff?
[04:33] <olorin> Insom: sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <dcraven> ivo_: maybe you only installed the JRE? Not the SDK?
[04:33] <ivo_> mm
[04:33] <Insom> tnx olorin
[04:33] <ivo_> let's check
[04:33] <serfurj> is there a default root password?  i didn't have the chance to set it during the default server install mode
[04:33] <ivo_> is this the same package??? (.bin)
[04:34] <olorin> serfurj: no
[04:34] <ivo_> ./java_sdk/j2sdk1.4.2_08/bin/javac
[04:34] <olorin> serfurj: there is no root passwd
[04:34] <dcraven> ivo_: if you have "java" in your path, but not javac, there is an excellent chance you have the JRE.
[04:34] <LinuxJones> markdrago, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential will get the basics like gcc, make etc...
[04:34] <ivo_> this was found by  the searcher: ./java_sdk/j2sdk1.4.2_08/bin/javac
[04:34] <dcraven> ivo_: there it is!
[04:34] <dcraven> ivo_: use that to compile.
[04:34] <serfurj> olorin: i tried entering no password as root, didn't work
[04:34] <ivo_> but first I have to make a link??
[04:34] <ivo_> ln -s???
[04:35] <olorin> serfurj: use sudo
[04:35] <BlackLabel> is there such thing as a .om domain?
[04:35] <dcraven> ivo_: either make a symlink as you suggest, or use the absolute path to javac in your compile command.
[04:35] <serfurj> olorin: thanks
[04:36] <ivo_> okay many thanks :D
[04:36] <dcraven> ivo_: np
[04:36] <timmow> is it possible for swap to get corrupted?
[04:36] <timmow> and is it bad to share swap between distros?
[04:37] <njs12345> timmow: I don't believe so
[04:37] <njs12345> timmow: definitely not
[04:37] <markdrago> LinuxJones, thanks.
[04:37] <dcraven> timmow: I suppose so... But rebooting would fix it for certain.
[04:37] <LinuxJones> markdrago, np
[04:37] <njs12345> timmow: swap is swap, no matter what distro you're using ;)
[04:37] <njs12345> it could be corrupted if your disk drive was corrupt
[04:37] <timmow> right thats what i thought thanks
[04:37] <markdrago> I'm kind of tooling through synaptic now just grabbing all kinds of extras.
[04:37] <markuman> fucking flash don't work in firefox and mozilla. but in command line swfplayer works
[04:37] <ompaul> timmow (A) it is always possible, but but not likely (B) no problem using the same swap for many distros (as long as they are not running at the same time Xen / UML) :-)
[04:38] <timmow> swapon failed with invalid options, after i ran mkswap, i typed the exact same thing and it worked
[04:38] <Q_Continuum> Linux pwns Windows.
[04:38] <Q_Continuum> I have proof.
[04:38] <ompaul> pwns?
[04:38] <dcraven> oh boy
[04:38] <Q_Continuum> not only that, but proof that Linux pwns Windows at windows-games.
[04:39] <njs12345> ompaul: you've obviously never played Counter-Strike :P
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:39] <Q_Continuum> World of Warcraft loads faster under linux than windows. lol.
[04:39] <ivo_> yes, i have got it
[04:39] <ompaul> njs12345, would that be a windows game?
[04:39] <Tuxicity> Q_Continuum, emulated?
[04:39] <njs12345> ompaul: yes, it was
[04:39] <Q_Continuum> cedega, yes.
[04:39] <ivo_> who knows a good java editor with live time improvement?? for ubuntu???
[04:39] <BlackLabel> hi ompaul
[04:39] <ivo_> who knows a good java editor with live time improvement?? for ubuntu???
[04:39] <ompaul> njs12345, that would explain that then :-)
[04:39] <timmow> Also is it normal for xorg to use a lot of memory? It is using 101mb
[04:39] <dcraven> ivo_: settle down.
[04:40] <holycow> Q_Continuum, hehe
[04:40] <njs12345> timmow: a lot of pixmaps and stuff are stored in X, I thinkl
[04:40] <BlackLabel> ompaul i will msg u
[04:40] <ompaul> BlackLabel, k
[04:40] <Q_Continuum> Oh noes!  Not a project plan!
[04:40] <ivo_> ??
[04:40] <ivo_> what is it dcraven??
[04:40] <dcraven> ivo_: you don't have to repeat yourself in 5 seconds.
[04:40] <ompaul> Q_Continuum, and for you the gant chart of new ....
[04:40] <ivo_> ow now, that was my fault
[04:40] <njs12345> I was thinking of buying WoW, but it'd just fuel my addiction to online games and make me do even less homework
[04:41] <Q_Continuum> AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
[04:41] <ivo_> made a mistake, sorry
[04:41] <dcraven> ivo_: what is live time improvement?
[04:41] <njs12345> and plus, subscription fees! :(
[04:41] <Ironfrost> is there a way to uninstall a program I installed from a .deb file?
[04:41] <trygvebw> dpkg -r program
[04:41] <Q_Continuum> WoW = freaking addicting.
[04:41] <trygvebw> sudo dpkg -r program
[04:41] <Dalkus> How can I stop X running?
[04:41] <Dalkus> (temporarily)
[04:41] <trygvebw> Ironfrost ^
[04:41] <trygvebw> Dalkus: telinit 3
[04:41] <njs12345> Dalkus: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:41] <trygvebw> Dalkus: or "killall gdm"
[04:41] <ivo_> i mean, when you type, and you make a mistake the program make the code underlined so you know that something is not good.
[04:41] <Dalkus> telinit 3 did nothing
[04:41] <Dalkus> thanks
[04:41] <njs12345> ivo_: try Netbeans or Eclipse
[04:42] <Ironfrost> thanks a lot
[04:42] <ivo_> okay thanks
[04:43] <mustafa> hi i am getting xkb error when i configure my keyboard layout
[04:43] <mustafa> i try to set it turkish q
[04:43] <mustafa> but it does not work properly
[04:43] <mustafa> ayone help
[04:45] <dcraven> mustafa: you are setting the XkbLayout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:46] <melodie> I'm loooking for the ntfsresize tool supposed to be inclueded with partman in the Hoary installer
[04:46] <melodie> someone knows about it please ?
[04:46] <melodie> I'm installing on a laptop just now
[04:47] <jojomillan_> hi all. where could i post my xorg.log so yuo guys could have a quick look? can't get nvidia drivers working...
[04:47] <mustafa> no
[04:48] <dcraven> mustafa: what is the value of XkbLayout in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? I believe you want it to be "tr".
[04:48] <dcraven> jojomillan_: pastebin.com
[04:48] <jojomillan_> cheers
[04:49] <jojomillan_> anyone care to have a look? http://pastebin.com/275266
[04:49] <Tuxicity> melodie, ntfsprogs
[04:49] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:49] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I assume you did this --> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#installnvidiadriver
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:49] <jojomillan_> yes
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> i didnt use that method
[04:50] <melodie> Tuxicity: more detail plse ?
[04:50] <rapha> I need some help with mysql. I just moved /var/lib/mysql to ~/.mysql  and symlinked it (~is back-upped), but now mysql doesn't see its databases anymore. Can this be made to work?
[04:50] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i would install the drivers by hand, but i can't. the installer can't find the headers/source - although they are installed
[04:50] <mustafa> look i am newbie now tell me how or where can i read the value
[04:51] <melodie> I'm trying to find out if the resize can be done during the install :)
[04:51] <njs12345> mustafa: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | gre XkbLayout
[04:51] <njs12345> oops
[04:51] <njs12345> mustafa: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbLayout
[04:51] <Tuxicity> melodie, did you hear it could be done? I didnt think so, but maybe you're right?
[04:51] <stuNNed> rapha: it's probably not as simple as a symlink, check #mysql
[04:52] <melodie> Tuxicity: I read that ntfsresize is now part of Partman in the installer
[04:53] <melodie> and I've got a win in this old laptop I bought yesterday so I try to find out before formatting all
[04:54] <timmow> melodie: I used knoppix and qtparted to sort all the partitions out before i installed ubuntu.  Might be an easier method.
[04:54] <melodie> otherwise I didn't find any howto for that :)
[04:54] <melodie> timeow: I look not for easy known method, but for easy unknown method :))
[04:55] <mustafa> ok f'nally
[04:55] <jojomillan_> dcraven: any ideas?
[04:55] <rapha> stuNNed: Okay, thx
[04:55] <Tuxicity> melodie, indeed you're right
[04:55] <melodie> I can try only once, because after I can't reinstall a win in order to try
[04:56] <mustafa> what w'll i do next
[04:56] <melodie> I try to search further on the web incase...
[04:56] <Tuxicity> melodie, well did you try booting the installer?
[04:57] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I'm not familiar with that error. It looks like it chokes on GLX?
[04:57] <flames> i want reach my xp share in ubuntu with smbmount, command: sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/share-a /share/a
[04:57] <flames> it's work fine yesterday, but today i get this: 9869: protocol negotiation failed, what is this?
[04:57] <melodie> Tuxicity: I'm on the partitionment phase on the laptop
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> flames itll be windows
[04:57] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i have considered that. not quite how nvidia drivers should behave, though!
[04:57] <melodie> and started to explore the options
[04:57] <bet0x> http://www.dancepic.addr.com/Fun.htm <- very nice
[04:57] <flames> what is the solution?
[04:58] <dcraven> mustafa: did you find out the value of XkbLayout in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[04:58] <Thorrn4> I have another question: what are "Warty Warthog" and "HOARY HEDGEHOG"?
[04:58] <Tuxicity> melodie, from Bugzilla "ntfstools-udeb added to Hoary, and I've confirmed that the Ubuntu installer can resize NTFS filesystems now."
[04:58] <melodie> :)
[04:58] <jojomillan_> Thorrn4: the names of the different releases
[04:59] <Thorrn4> butm what are they for?
[04:59] <melodie> Tuxicity: all the pb is to find what is the right option
[04:59] <jojomillan_> Thorrn4: to sound good i reckon!
[04:59] <melodie> do you have the link to give ?
[05:00] <Tuxicity> melodie, I wonder if you must be in "expert mode install"?
[05:00] <Ironfrost> Thorrn4: what are ME and XP? Same thing.
[05:00] <Thorrn4> what do they do?
[05:00] <dcraven> jojomillan_: did you edit your xorg.conf at all?
[05:00] <melodie> Tuxicity: I'm on manual partitionning mode
[05:00] <jojomillan_> dcraven: not manually. only swapped nv for nvidia
[05:00] <Ironfrost> Warty is the previous release; Hoary is the current one
[05:00] <Thorrn4> current what?!
[05:00] <melodie> which is probably the expert equivalent
[05:01] <timmow> melodie: i read a review that said the partitioner was confusing http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/04/19/200205&from=rss
[05:01] <timmow> melodie: says it warns you that it will format partition, but actually just resizes it
[05:02] <melodie> timmow: ok I read that :)
[05:03] <Tuxicity> melodie, tu parles franais aussi?
[05:03] <melodie> Tuxicity: yes sir
[05:03] <dcraven> jojomillan_: can you put your xorg.conf in pastebin too?
[05:03] <melodie> :)
[05:03] <jojomillan_> dcraven: sure
[05:04] <melodie> Tuxicity: do you want to talk apart in french ?
[05:04] <dcraven> I wondered how long it would take before someone put the moves on melodie :)
[05:04] <GNAM> Tuxicity #ubuntu-fr
[05:04] <jojomillan_> dcraven: it appears a bit bloated to me       http://pastebin.com/275275
[05:05] <nikls> when opening gnome, it stops on openin "metacity" process, then don't complete openin gnome process. I reinstalled metacity and nautilus with no result, what can i do now?
[05:06] <dcraven> jojomillan_: it looks like the switch from "nv" to "nvidia" didn't take. It is still nv.
[05:06] <olorin> nikls: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity'
[05:07] <jojomillan_> dcraven: yes, because that's what i'm running now. it crashes when i change to nvidia
[05:07] <dcraven> jojomillan_: ahh.
[05:07] <nikls> olorin: ok, i'll try then i'll tell you what happens
[05:07] <WildWires> Hi
[05:08] <olorin> WildWires: hi ;)
[05:08] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I kinda doubt this is the problem, but maybe you should double-check your refreshrates.. They look a tad low in there.
[05:09] <darkaudit> arggh... I opened a port with firestarter, but it insists on blocking it anyway... even after clicking on  'allow service for everyone'
[05:10] <sig> where does ubuntu put the codecs if I did apt-get install codecs?
[05:10] <WildWires> Can someone help me get a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 to work with Ubuntu.. btw.. I am new to chatting and not too savvy with protocals
[05:10] <nikls> olorin: when trying "dpkg-reconfigure metacity", i have that answer:enable to initialyze interface Gnome
[05:11] <jojomillan_> dcraven: can a programm test that for me?
[05:11] <dcraven> jojomillan_: why is "Load "dri"" commented out? (line 041 at http://pastebin.com/275275)
[05:11] <olorin> nikls: warty hoary ? upgrade ?
[05:11] <sig> w32codecs
[05:11] <nikls> olorin: hoary
[05:12] <jojomillan_> dcraven: because the readme on nvidia.com told me so!
[05:12] <dcraven> jojomillan_: the install is supposed to auto-detect that stuff, but sometimes fails in which case it uses low (safe) defaults. You can typically find the refresh rates for your monitor online or in your manual.
[05:12] <olorin> try reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <dcraven> jojomillan_: Okay, I've never used that readme. I'm just looking at the xorg.conf on my desktop which also has an nvidia. I don't have that commented out.
[05:13] <jojomillan_> dcraven: okay. worth a try i guess
[05:13] <nikls> olorin: It's also written " (DISPLAY problem?) "  and " use interface Dialog instead"
[05:14] <MaxeyPad> for some reason the w32codecs package is gone
[05:14] <olorin> ok
[05:14] <olorin> nikls: wait a minute
[05:14] <nikls> olorin:
[05:14] <nikls> ok
[05:14] <olorin> nikls: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[05:14] <olorin> and choose dialog
[05:14] <nikls> olorin: ok
[05:15] <dcraven> jojomillan_: let me know how it goes.. I'm curious.
[05:15] <MaxeyPad> for whatever reason the w32codecs package is not available via apt anymore.  I was running warty and I was able to get it.  now i'm running hoary and the package appears to have disappeared.  when I run apt there are references to the package, but the actual package is unavailable
[05:15] <jojomillan_> dcraven: okay, just looking up the refresh rates
[05:16] <dcraven> jojomillan_: cool.
[05:16] <nikls> olorin: done, what's next, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity'?
[05:16] <ManLord> I just installed the w32codecs packages
[05:16] <olorin> nikls: yes retry
[05:17] <nikls> olorin: ok
[05:17] <dcraven> MaxeyPad: maybe they are in the marillat repository?
[05:17] <nikls> olorin: I have the same error message
[05:17] <olorin> nikls: with the ' use dialog instead ' ?
[05:18] <jojomillan_> dcraven: here goes nothing :-)
[05:18] <nikls> olorin: debconf: Utilisation de l'interface Dialog  la place
[05:18] <nikls> olorin: it's french
[05:19] <olorin> nikls: yes like me :d
[05:19] <nikls> olorin: otu es franais?
[05:19] <olorin> nikls: Belge
[05:19] <nikls> olorin: parfait
[05:19] <olorin> nikls: lol
[05:19] <dcraven> Je ne parle pas Francais.
[05:19] <dcraven> Is that right?
[05:20] <dcraven> Close?
[05:20] <nikls> right
[05:20] <dcraven> :)
[05:20] <MaxeyPad> yes they were in the marillat repository.  i had it disabled because it was down for a little while
[05:20] <nikls> nobody's perfect :)
[05:21] <dcraven> MaxeyPad: so you found them again? I suggest commenting that repository once you have what you need from it.
[05:21] <cusco> thanks Tuxicity and smouche
[05:21] <Tuxicity> cusco, np
[05:21] <dcraven> I wish I was bilingual.
[05:21] <jojomillan_> dcraven: same issue i'm afraid
[05:22] <dcraven> jojomillan_: crud.
[05:22] <jojomillan_> dcraven: looks better on a higher refresh rate mind you!
[05:22] <melodie> dcraven: you can learn
[05:22] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I bet it does.. hehe
[05:22] <jeroen_> hello
[05:22] <dcraven> melodie: true
[05:22] <cusco> Tuxicity: sory, there is no such package gtranscode... from any special repository?
[05:22] <andrewski> can anyone access www.ubuntuguide.org?  it's not connecting for me....
[05:22] <melodie> :)
[05:22] <dcraven> andrewski: lose the www part.
[05:23] <andrewski> dcraven: i'm just connecting from the forums; it added the www.
[05:23] <Ironfrost> dcraven: http://ubuntuguide.org isn't working for me
[05:23] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i noticed that the server can't load a symbol called libdri.a
[05:23] <St0n3-C0l> doesn't matter dcraven
[05:23] <dcraven> St0n3-C0l: ahh.
[05:24] <dcraven> It just died. I was there a minute ago.
[05:24] <serfurj> is there a way to get a description summary of a package with apt-get or related tools?
[05:24] <Tuxicity> cusco, from the multiverse repo
[05:24] <trygvebw> serfurj: sudo apt-cache show package
[05:24] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I suppose that is why they tell you to comment that out eh? hehe
[05:24] <LinuxJones> serfurj, apt-cache show packagename
[05:24] <dcraven> jojomillan_: I'll check my logs just out of curiousity.
[05:24] <jojomillan_> dcraven: all of a sudden, it makes sense !!
[05:24] <Ironfrost> serfurj - Synaptic gives you a description, and that links into the same thing as apt-get
[05:24] <serfurj> trygvebw: LinuxJones: thanks
[05:25] <nullset> Hi all
[05:25] <andrewski> Ironfrost: not working for you either?
[05:25] <jiyuu0> i hope i din burst ubuntuguide.org bandwidth quota
[05:25] <Ironfrost> andrewski: nope
[05:25] <LinuxJones> jiyuu0, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-faqguide to download it to your computer
[05:26] <nullset> ubuntu-faqguide??
[05:26] <Ironfrost> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:oCNVrC8mgQ8J:ubuntuguide.org/+ubuntuguide&hl=en is the google cache if you need anything from it
[05:26] <dcraven> jojomillan_: hmmm.. Mine loaded that module from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdir.a
[05:26] <LinuxJones> nullset, it's the ubuntuguide.org site that's been packaged
[05:26] <smouche> it's not loading for me either.
[05:26] <dcraven> jojomillan_: Keep in mind that I used a different install method. I got the installer from nvidia.
[05:26] <jiyuu0> LinuxJones, is it the sam everseion
[05:26] <jojomillan_> dcraven: great, now i', really confused
[05:27] <jojomillan_> dcraven: the installer doesn't work for me. i've tried
[05:27] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, are you installing the nvidia driver?
[05:27] <jiyuu0> i'll check with the hosting company later... c y it's down
[05:27] <LinuxJones> jiyuu0, it's Version: 0.2-1
[05:27] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i took the one from the ubuntu repos
[05:28] <ironwolf> anyone using gtkpod? if so, how do I tell it to only update certain playlists?
[05:28] <ironwolf> by update, I mean transfer to the ipod.
[05:28] <zxc> how do I change the gdm login screen I got these instructions (1. Computer -> System Configuration -> Login Screen Setup) but I can't find "Computer"
[05:28] <LinuxJones> zxc, sudo gdm-setup
[05:29] <webtoe> zxc: you need to go to system -> administration -> login screen
[05:29] <webtoe> system is at the top of the screen
[05:29] <zxc> thanks webtoe
[05:30] <nullset> I can listen a music in my computer,however I can't listen sound on flash movie in mozilla-web broswer.
[05:30] <nullset> Do you know why it it?
[05:31] <nullset> I think I had better compile new kernel.....
[05:31] <sig> nullset: did you get the plugin from ubuntuguide.org ?
[05:32] <nullset> no
[05:32] <nullset> what is the plugin?
[05:32] <sig> thats probably your problem
[05:32] <sig> let me get you the link
[05:32] <nullset> really?
[05:32] <sig> it works flawlessly on my comp
[05:32] <nullset> flashmovie??
[05:32] <sig> apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[05:33] <dcraven> jojomillan_: have you run "nvidia-glx-config enable"? I don't remember doing that.. But again, different install method.
[05:33] <nullset> thx
[05:33] <nullset> I will try.
[05:33] <sig> once it is installed open a new browser and let me know if it works
[05:34] <Jmax1632> does ubuntu come with X11?
[05:34] <bpuccio> nullset: for what it's worth, I'm having the same problem on my girlfriend's computer, she doesn't get sound in firefox-flash, but I do, neither one of us have it installed the ubuntu way, rather, we just used firefox's built in plugin installer, however, I'm going to try the ubuntu way on hers tonight to see if it works
[05:34] <St0n3-C0l> sig: u said did you get the plugin from ubuntuguide.org
[05:34] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[05:34] <St0n3-C0l> sig: they're not providing plugins...just guiding u
[05:34] <sig> St0n3-C0l: I meant the readme
[05:34] <jojomillan_> dcraven: no, all that script does is change nv to nvidia i think. i used to have the official nvidia drivers working. till i updated to hoary. now the installer can't find the right kernel source, although it is there.
[05:34] <dcraven> Jmax1632: yes
[05:34] <sig> thanks but I need no guidance from you
[05:34] <Jmax1632> dcraven: thanks
[05:34] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[05:35] <nullset> It doesn't sound...-0-
[05:35] <sig> is your volume turned up?
[05:35] <nullset> yeah...
[05:35] <sig> did you open a new browser?
[05:35] <St0n3-C0l> sometimes...flash movies hangs when their sound is enabled :P
[05:35] <dcraven> jojomillan_: hmmm... You have a kernel-source-2.6.10-5-386/ in your /usr/src directory?
[05:35] <sig> also did you remove the old flash plugin that you installed ?
[05:36] <jojomillan_> dcraven: linux-source-2.6.10 is the name of the folder
[05:36] <nullset> I should do the kernel compile... ^^
[05:36] <serfurj> why does "apt-get install emacs21-nox" say there are no candidates, when there should be?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/editors/emacs21-nox
[05:36] <dcraven> jojomillan_: something tells me I had to rename the linux-source dir to kernel-source to make the installer happy. I also created a /usr/src/linux symlink to the kernel source dir just for fun.
[05:36] <nullset> I think it is better...
[05:37] <jojomillan_> dcraven, yeah i've got the symlink too
[05:37] <sig> I think not nullset but go ahead
[05:37] <sig> nullset: you didn't remove the old plugin before you installed the new one correct?
[05:37] <Hoxzer> how do I change resolution? :/
[05:37] <jojomillan_> i'm running the 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel though... shouldnt matter i think
[05:37] <nullset> ok I remeber...
[05:38] <nullset> It was very interesting to compile kernel...
[05:38] <nullset> thx all ^^
[05:38] <nullset> exit
[05:38] <dcraven> jojomillan_: try making a symlink to that dir called kernel-source-2.6.10-5-k7 that points to the dir. It probably does matter because the installer might look at 'uname -r' for your running kernel.
[05:38] <Jmax1632> does ubuntu use grub, or lilo?
[05:38] <Myrtti> grub
[05:39] <Jmax1632> ok
[05:39] <Jmax1632> how do you change TTY resolution?
[05:39] <jiyuu0> ubuntuguide.org is up
[05:39] <Kartagis> why does apt-get have to remove libqt3-dev when getting KDE?
[05:39] <serfurj> ah ha, needed to enable universe repository
[05:39] <Jmax1632> jiyuu0: sorry, i'm actually trying to help out a linux n00b.
[05:39] <dcraven> Kartagis: is it replacing it with the multithreaded version?
[05:40] <jojomillan_> dcraven: http://pastebin.com/275284
[05:40] <bpuccio> jiyuu0: is mirroring needed for the guide?
[05:40] <Kartagis> dunno
[05:40] <jiyuu0> bpuccio, maybe not for now...
[05:40] <bpuccio> jiyuu0: ok
[05:41] <jiyuu0> i'm thinkin to change to a diff hosting server
[05:41] <jojomillan_> dcraven: would downloading the source from kernel.org be any help, do you think?
[05:42] <Jmax1632> mmm\
[05:42] <dcraven> jojomillan_: not likely.
[05:42] <Jmax1632> sorry, Hoxzer , i have other things to do
[05:42] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, could i help?
[05:42] <Hoxzer> umm...
[05:42] <bpuccio> jiyuu0: ok, I have plenty of bandwidth, I have a server and host a few sites for people, it's sort of a webhost co-op, so let me know if you need anything
[05:42] <SirFunk> hey, what software do you guys use to rip CD's?
[05:43] <dcraven> jojomillan_: did you point it towards /usr/src/linux yourself or did it assume the sources were there?
[05:43] <bpuccio> SirFunk: I use gnomebaker (in universe I think)
[05:43] <SirFunk> hmm.. i'm using grip.. but it's SLOW
[05:43] <SirFunk> my cd drive is idk like 52x and grip is going at like 2x
[05:43] <dcraven> jojomillan_: ahh.. It says not specified.
[05:44] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, you here?
[05:44] <Tuxicity> larsrohdin, ya, kind of busy, still struggling with video and all...
[05:44] <bpuccio> SirFunk: ah, I thought you meant rip to an ISO, sorry for the mixup.... have you enabled DMA?
[05:44] <Raskall> how do I check the version of a kernel module?
[05:44] <SirFunk> bpuccio: oh, heh, i think, let me check
[05:44] <larsrohdin> Tuxicity, ok... im no good at this IRC-business, how can i send a private message to you?
[05:45] <Hoxzer> so how can I change resolution in ubuntu couse that don't cover even the whole screen
[05:45] <Hoxzer> it looks realy annoying
[05:45] <dcraven> larsrohdin: /msg whoever
[05:45] <larsrohdin> dcraven, ok thx
[05:45] <cusco> Tuxicity: sory I wasn't here... look to istall gtranscode I need transcode...
[05:45] <cusco> Tuxicity: E: Package transcode has no installation candidate
[05:46] <bpuccio> Hoxzer: system -> prefs -> screen resolution
[05:46] <jazzka> when I compile some programs, I get this: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:46] <Ironfrost> Hoxzer - System  >Preferences > Screen Resolution
[05:46] <Ironfrost> bah
[05:46] <Tuxicity> cusco, in multiverse repo
[05:46] <Ironfrost> what bpuccio said
[05:46] <jazzka> which line may I edit?
[05:46] <cusco> Tuxicity: I just added the multiverse
[05:46] <cusco> Tuxicity: gtranscode is available but transcode istn't
[05:46] <kanuha> simple question, I hope. How do I make the Kmenu transparent? I made the taskbar transparent, but don't see an option to make the menu transparent. I thought I had done this before.
[05:47] <SirFunk> bpuccio: it was off, but now it's on and it's going almost as slow
[05:47] <Hoxzer> Iron: I tryed that I can change it bigger :/
[05:47] <Hoxzer> when the win98 was installed it was 1024*768
[05:47] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i pointed it myself
[05:47] <Tuxicity> cusco, transcode seems to be in main repos...
[05:47] <jojomillan_> dcraven: i just don't get it
[05:47] <bpuccio> SirFunk: I'm sorry, I can't help any more, that's all I know of to speed up optical drives, sorry :(
[05:47] <cusco> Tuxicity: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:47] <cusco>   gtranscode: Depends: transcode but it is not installable
[05:47] <Ironfrost> Hoxzer - why, what are the available options now?
[05:48] <SirFunk> nuts
[05:48] <SirFunk> thanks though
[05:48] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, sorry can you explain your problem again, cause i might be able to help
[05:48] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: any help is apreciated!
[05:48] <Tuxicity> cusco, hmm
[05:48] <dcraven> jojomillan_: rename the linux-source-whatever to kernel-source-whatever... Then don't specify a source location when you try the installer.
[05:48] <Hoxzer> Iron: dunno why, but avaible options are 640x480 and 800x600
[05:48] <Hoxzer> :/
[05:48] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: problem is, after ages of trying i can't get any form of nvidia drivers working
[05:49] <cusco> whats wrong?
[05:49] <dcraven> jojomillan_: but first, see if whiteknight has any ideas :)
[05:49] <eskaypey> hey how do you stop loading x on boot up
[05:49] <jojomillan_> dcraven: absolutely
[05:49] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, are you using the nvidia installer?
[05:49] <dcraven> whiteknight: this is his log --> http://pastebin.com/275266
[05:49] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: i've tried
[05:49] <dcraven> whiteknight: he has used the debs from the Ubuntu repo I think.
[05:50] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, i recommend concentrating on the nvidia installer
[05:50] <cusco> Tuxicity: it is on marilatt... im installing it from there...
[05:50] <dcraven> whiteknight: I don't see the obvious issue in that log.
[05:50] <jojomillan_> whitenight: me neither
[05:50] <Ironfrost> Hoxzer - if you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <Ironfrost> you can add to the list of available screen resolutions
[05:50] <dcraven> whiteknight: that was the direction we were headed now :)
[05:50] <jojomillan_> dcraven: still got the link to my xorg. output?
[05:50] <webtoe> eskaypey: you need to change the run level. usually changed in /etc/inittab
[05:50] <dcraven> jojomillan_: this? --> http://pastebin.com/275275
[05:51] <drac> My friend is having troubles disabling framebuffering from kernel. I told him to add video=vesafb:off to # kopt in menu.lst, but it still fscking loads! I'd like to know how exactly you disable it from Ubuntu, is there some special way to do it?
[05:51] <Ironfrost> Hoxzer - go to SubSection "Display" in your xorg.conf
[05:51] <Tuxicity> cusco, cool
[05:51] <jojomillan_> dcraven: yes
[05:51] <topyli> webtoe: that's not the debian way. debian always boots to init 2
[05:51] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, is the nvidia kernel module loaded?
[05:51] <Ironfrost> Hoxzer - and add the resolution you want after 'modes' (there is a list)
[05:51] <jojomillan_> whiteknight: yes
[05:51] <whiteknight> jojomillan_, lsmod|grep nvidia