[06:08] <glenner> what i did notice is that the performance in X is not as good as it was in feisty. i see a lot of flickering
[06:09] <AngryElf> whatever happened to the SNOW in compiz?
[06:09] <glenner> no idea if this is caused by the flgrx drivers, the nex XOrg or the new kernel..
[06:09] <remarK-> i'm sorry, but by "X" you mean what exactly? (sorry for being obnoxiously ignorant.)
[06:10] <Pici> murlidhar: Warnings during make install are usually not an issue.  Errors are bad.
[06:10] <glenner> just about anything in the GUI, for example switching windows between takes a long time to redraw the new window
[06:10] <Pici> remarK-: X = Xwindows
[06:10] <remarK-> thank you.
[06:11] <remarK-> hmmm. and that's with ATI?
[06:11] <glenner> i dont know if others have this feeling as wel?
[06:11] <glenner> yup
[06:11] <murlidhar> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40406/
[06:11] <remarK-> i have nvidia. hopefully it'll be a little smoother?
[06:11] <murlidhar> Pici: i guess if it gives errors then it should not get installed
[06:12] <Pici> murlidhar: hrm.  I'm not sure, sorry.
[06:12] <Pici> murlidhar: right.
[06:12] <Aishiko> remarK-: we were are all new at some point the only truely stupid question is the one you don't ask so you can understand what is going on.
[06:12] <MattyM> anyone know how to fix a blank screen after selecting start install?
[06:12] <glenner> could be that nvidia is beter, im not really sure if it is the ATI driver or somthing else..
[06:12] <remarK-> right.
[06:13] <Pici> glenner: my ATI has been fine in Gutsy
[06:13] <glenner> Pici: which driver are you using?
[06:13] <Pici> glenner: fglrx
[06:13] <wastedfluid> hello... I have a question.  I did the rc upgrade from 7.04, and now my volume keys on my laptop no logner work.  if you volume up, it goes to 11%(no higher), if you volume down, it goes to 0%.. master channel is PCM, but it doesn't work.  If you open Kmix, and change PCM in there.. it DOES work.  Any ideas?
[06:13] <murlidhar> Pici: it install and when i click the mouse in the windows somethings seem working like the application reads my mouse
[06:14] <Pici> murlidhar: Whats the name of the program again?
[06:15] <murlidhar> Pici: linkage it is at google code
[06:19] <Pici> murlidhar: I'm going to try here
[06:19] <murlidhar> Pici: thanks
[06:22] <Seeker`> has the tickless kernel been enabled in gutsy?
[06:25] <TheRepacker> Congrats to the devs, everything seems to be working great
[06:29] <Konam> hi
[06:29] <nemik> new mandriva is so fast compared to gutsy. is gutsy going to get the CFS scheduler? it seems so slow now
[06:29] <Pici> nemik: No.
[06:30] <nemik> :/
[06:30] <Pici> nemik: 23 was realeased far too late for any testing to occur
[06:30] <nemik> there's patches for 22
[06:30] <hydrogen> its still too late
[06:30] <hydrogen> and cfs is mostly a placebo thing
[06:30] <hydrogen> people say its faster so you think its faster
[06:31] <nemik> no i tried it and it was faster
[06:31] <Konam> ubuntu doesn't seem to write the reconfigurations I make to xorg.conf
[06:31] <hydrogen> you thought it was faster.
[06:31] <hydrogen> because people told you so
[06:31] <hydrogen> it really is not
[06:31] <andre_> sup folks
[06:31] <hydrogen> that much
[06:31] <nemik> lol
[06:32] <andre_> I here the release candidate is out?
[06:32] <hydrogen> yes
[06:32] <hydrogen> read the topic.
[06:32] <andre_> If I'm running Beta, will it automatically update?
[06:32] <hydrogen> yes,
[06:32] <Konam> I use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to change my vertrefresh and it doesn't seem to write to xorg.conf
[06:32] <Pici> murlidhar: How did you get that version of libtorrent?
[06:32] <abadtooth> Hey all, I want to install 7.10 off of the desktop CD, but I can only get the x server to start by doing "sudo startx" into the shell. again I want to install it and the option seems to not be there while booting with that command..
[06:32] <CheeseGardener> I'm trying to get drivers for the intel 915 chipset.  Someone gave me a sudo command once to download them.  Do you know what command that might be???
[06:33] <Konam> that's giving me problems with compiz
[06:33] <murlidhar> Pici: http://code.google.com/p/linkage/
[06:34] <murlidhar> Pici: it's in the wiki instructions
[06:34] <murlidhar> Pici: http://code.google.com/p/linkage/wiki/Installation
[06:34] <andre_> If I had 7.10 Beta Installed will it automatically update to RC?
[06:34] <abadtooth> is there a terminal command to install 7.10?
[06:35] <TheRepacker> andre_ yes, keep it updated
[06:35] <Pici> murlidhar: er, I can't test all that from here.
[06:35] <andre_> TheRepacker: sweet :)
[06:35] <andre_> TheRepacker: tx
[06:35] <Pici> murlidhar: sorry.
[06:35] <TheRepacker> it sure is sweet
[06:35] <abadtooth> I can't seem to install it when I boot it as root.
[06:35] <usser> abadtooth did u try to run the live cd in safe graphics mode??
[06:35] <murlidhar> Pici: k no problems
[06:35] <abadtooth> usser: yes
[06:35] <usser> abadtooth what about changing the res manually
[06:36] <usser> abadtooth to something like 800x600
[06:36] <abadtooth> usser:  this is the first time i've gotten any ubuntu live cd to boot..
[06:36] <abadtooth> usser:  yes, I've tried it
[06:36] <usser> abadtooth anyhow instead of startx try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:36] <usser> abadtooth or restart
[06:36] <abadtooth> ok
[06:37] <kristjan_> I installed 32bit ubuntu on 64bit hardware with 1GB memory - why didn't gnome system monitor see all 1GB ram, less than 900MB was visible - was it because of integrated graphics card?
[06:37] <Pici> kristjan_: Yes.
[06:37] <usser> kristjan_ probably
[06:37] <andre_> does Compiz Fusion not include the desktop cube?
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> I'm trying to get drivers for the intel 915 chipset.  Someone gave me a sudo command once to download them.  Do you know what command that might be???
[06:37] <usser> andre_ it does its not on by default
[06:37] <jhaig> I'm running the powertop tool, which is suggesting setting HPET in bios (which I cannot - no option) or install a kernel patch.  Is there a simple way to install this patch?  Is there a kernel with it built in?
[06:37] <andre_> usser: how do you turn it on?
[06:38] <TheRepacker> the cube is included, but you have to enable
[06:38] <ReL1K> CheeseGardener: should be installed by default.
[06:38] <andre_> TheRepacker: how do you enable it?
[06:38] <ReL1K> do a lspci |grep VGA
[06:38] <TheRepacker> do you have CCSM
[06:38] <usser> andre_ open up ccsm and enable desktop cube and cube rotate plugins
[06:38] <andre_> usser: ccsm?
[06:38] <CheeseGardener> ReL1K, the driver didn't work though.  It has 2 drop down boxes for video card select.
[06:38] <Pici> usser: CCSM is the only way to do it?
[06:38] <usser> andre_ ccsm is compiz config manager
[06:39] <andre_> usser:  I have to install it
[06:39] <andre_> usser:  installing
[06:39] <usser> Pici i suppose somewhere theres a config that u can edit manually
[06:39] <abadtooth> usser:  the sudo etc/ one doesn't work, it tries to start, but stops
[06:39] <Pici> usser: Okay, thats all I needed to know, thanks.
[06:39] <usser> abadtooth with what error?
[06:39] <CheeseGardener> ReL1K, so he gave me some sudo command, so I could download or use some other driver.   Now I have one drop down box, and the intel experiemental modesetting driver.
[06:40] <TheRepacker> yes and once it is installed you'll get a 4th choice on the apperence  effects tab
[06:40] <usser> abadtooth theres no text install on desktop cd is there?
[06:40] <pestilence> i got a new laptop, and i find that much moreso with this laptop than my old one, when a program is doing heavy I/O to the disk, it becomes very difficult to use the computer.  everything is very slow
[06:40] <abadtooth> no error... it just says Starting GNOME Display Manager...\
[06:40] <Pici> usser:  no, there isnt.
[06:40] <pestilence> at first i suspected it was a DMA issue, but according to hdparm DMA is on.
[06:41] <abadtooth> sudo startx seems to be the only way it works..
[06:41] <usser> abadtooth arrg im not home but u can find out the installation command by looking at the properties of that Install icon, do u have a different pc that can boot livecd
[06:41] <Pici> abadtooth: I'd install using the Alternate disk if you are having that many problems with the liveC
[06:41] <Pici> D
[06:42] <abadtooth> usser:  no install icon when on root :(
[06:42] <abadtooth> Pici:  my internet sucks... can't download it again..
[06:45] <Badpenguin86> Appr. how much do I need to download to upgrade from fiesty next week? In mb?
[06:45] <Pici> usser: How will that help?
[06:45] <Konam> xorg seems to be broken here :)
[06:45] <Konam> :(
[06:46] <abadtooth> lol I was wondering about the smile :P
[06:46] <jhaig> OK, I'll try asking the question (regarding the HPET kernel patch) a different way.  If I decide to install Gutsy, is it fairly straightforward to download the kernel source, apply the HPET patch, and build a new kernel?
[06:46] <usser> Pici well he says he can run X means he can type the name of it in the terminal and launch setup program manually
[06:47] <Pici> usser: I think thats just asking for issues.
[06:47] <kristjan_> wow powertop is nice :-)
[06:47] <usser> Pici why not really
[06:47] <Pici> !kernel | jhaig
[06:47] <ubotu> jhaig: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[06:47] <Konam> I save some configs to xorg.conf but I don't notice any change in -->preferences-->screen resolution
[06:48] <usser> Konam did u restart X after changes
[06:48] <Konam> usser ctrl+alt+backspace, and the changes are saved in xorg.conf but screen resolution doesn't show them
[06:49] <PirateHead> There are some issues with the advanced settings for desktop effects... should I submit a bug for Ubuntu, or should I try to talk to the upstream compiz people?
[06:50] <Pici> PirateHead: Please submit a bug.
[06:50] <abadtooth> I don't believe it guys! I just was tinkering with the setting in safe graphics mode and it booted right up!
[06:50] <abadtooth> Now I'm very happy!
[06:50] <PirateHead> Pici: will do. I've got a lot of bugs to submit. Need to start a proper list. :-)
[06:51] <Konam> usser do you have an idea of why this is happening
[06:52] <abadtooth> any of you guys use Dvorak?
[06:52] <usser> Konam i dunno, gui X setup never worked for me i always ended up deleting all the modes except one i want to run from xorg
[06:53] <usser> abadtooth glad for u
[06:53] <usser> abadtooth im curious can u right click on that icon and tell me the name of that program
[06:54] <abadtooth> usser:  ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[06:55] <usser> abadtooth nice tnx :0
[06:55] <usser> err :)
[06:55] <abadtooth> usser:  np :D
[06:55] <daSkreech> I can't mount any more in gutsy :-(
[06:55] <abadtooth> this is fun having 3 computers running on all sides of you :P
[06:56] <daSkreech> does mount have a verbose mode?
[06:56] <savvas> daSkreech: yes type: mount
[06:56] <savvas> :P
[06:57] <daSkreech> Yes
[06:57] <daSkreech>  and it's still not mounted
[06:59] <daSkreech> sudo mount /dev/sda1 Folder
[06:59] <daSkreech> No mounting :)
[07:01] <abadtooth> I have a kinda dumb question... Say my friend installs Gutsy beta, will he be able to update it to the full release the usual way?
[07:01] <savvas> daSkreech: type? ntfs?
[07:02] <daSkreech> Yes
[07:02] <savvas> daSkreech: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[07:02] <daSkreech> ah
[07:02] <daSkreech> No ntfs read support out of the box?
[07:02] <savvas> well there is..
[07:03] <savvas> hold a sec
[07:03] <centyx> Hi. Is it OK to upgrade to Gutsy by changing 'feisty' to 'gutsy' in /etc/apt/sources.list and running aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade?
[07:03] <Pici> !away > uga|away (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:03] <abadtooth> centyx:  Do you use you computer for work?
[07:03] <daSkreech> centyx: Read the upgrade notes
[07:04] <abadtooth> centyx:  I wouldn't use the beta for a working install..
[07:04] <centyx> abadtooth: oh.
[07:04] <savvas> daSkreech: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Mount_NTFS_Partitions
[07:04] <centyx> abadtooth: oops.
[07:04] <abadtooth> Ubuntu installed and rebooting :D
[07:05] <savvas> daSkreech: that will mount it as read-only. if you want write access, it's better to use ntfs-3g
[07:05] <daSkreech> Nope jsut wanna read something
[07:05] <daSkreech> I used to be able to mount read only
[07:05] <centyx> abadtooth: I was just wondering if aptitude dist-upgrade is any less desirable than update-manager
[07:05] <savvas> you should still be able to do that :)
[07:06] <abadtooth> centyx:  Update-manager works fine for me..
[07:06] <centyx> abadtooth: that's not my question...
[07:06] <centyx> abadtooth: I haven't even tried update-manager, and I'd rather not.
[07:07] <abadtooth> centyx:  don't mind me than I'm a Linux newbie :P
[07:07] <abadtooth> Only been using Linux for about a year now..
[07:08] <centyx> abadtooth: how are you liking it?
[07:08] <abadtooth> centyx:  Love every minute of it :D
[07:08] <annemarie> how to have write access to ntfs in gutsy?
[07:08] <annemarie>  wasn't this standard from installation?
[07:08] <abadtooth> centyx:  Compiz Fuzion is also very nice :P
[07:08] <centyx> speedy marie.
[07:09] <mmkassem> annemarie : write access on NTFS is available my default
[07:09] <centyx> abadtooth: i'm interested in checking out this apparmor jazz
[07:09] <daSkreech> centyx: still not mounting
[07:09] <annemarie> mmkassem: i do not have to install a package?
[07:09] <mmkassem> annemarie: No, it just works
[07:09] <centyx> abadtooth: have fun ;)
[07:10] <annemarie> that is GOOD news!
[07:10] <annemarie> thank you
[07:11] <mmkassem> centyx: the best way to upgrade to Gusty is it to follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[07:12] <foxiness> am on beta version ,and using vbox 1.5 OSE, when i installed it am on other version what am on it now ,and seems that  sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup not work and point me to log file? any tips?
[07:14] <Moduliz0r> what's a good (and quick) PC emulator?
[07:15] <mmkassem> foxiness: This tutorial worked for me http://phorolinux.com/installing-virtualbox-ose-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[07:15] <foxiness> Moduliz0r: vbox
[07:15] <Moduliz0r> ok
[07:15] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  you mean windos?
[07:15] <Moduliz0r> I want to run XP under a virtual machine
[07:15] <Moduliz0r> for games such as Halo
[07:15] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  VMware
[07:15] <Moduliz0r> what's vbox like?
[07:15] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  halo will run under wine
[07:15] <Moduliz0r> no it won't
[07:15] <UbuntuGuy> I've got desktop effects enabled on gutsy,  How do I get to the fancy stuff (like in compiz-beryl) for cube, wobbly windows etc?
[07:16] <Moduliz0r> i'll give halo another try now then...
[07:16] <abadtooth> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2720
[07:16] <Moduliz0r> hmm
[07:16] <Moduliz0r> ok then
[07:17] <foxiness> mmkassem: thanks
[07:17] <Moduliz0r> i can't seem to get a very good framerate with wine though
[07:17] <abadtooth> VMware, or emulation will be way worse
[07:17] <Moduliz0r> yeah maybe
[07:17] <Moduliz0r> I get about 30fps max on HL2 Garrys Mod
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> it usually stays at about 14~
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> sometimes 10 when I'm unlucky
[07:18] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  what are your systems specs?
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> Core 2 Duo 2.40GHz
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> nVidia GeForce 8600 GT
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> 256 (PCI-E)
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> 1GB of 800MHz DDR2 Crucial (Ballistix) RAM
[07:18] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  that should have more FPS than that..
[07:18] <Moduliz0r> You'd expect, wouldn't you.
[07:19] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  you do have Nvidia drivers?
[07:19] <Moduliz0r> yes
[07:19] <Moduliz0r> They were the very first thing I installed from the Internet
[07:19] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  yeah, did you follow that guide to installing halo?
[07:19] <Moduliz0r> no i'm just trying it now
[07:20] <Moduliz0r> the installer seems happy
[07:20] <daSkreech> !ntfs
[07:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:20] <Moduliz0r> Compiz effects make windows apps look so much better
[07:20] <gesker> Is there an ETA on the sun-java6-plugin package? It appears to be missing.
[07:20] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  I know all the game I got working with wine run at least as good as in windwos
[07:20] <Moduliz0r> hmm
[07:21] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  lol yeah :D
[07:21] <Moduliz0r> I used to get 120+fps in Windows :(
[07:21] <Moduliz0r> and now it's ~29 without any props spawned
[07:21] <Moduliz0r> with anti aliasing off
[07:21] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  yeah something isn't set up right as far as I can tell..
[07:21] <Moduliz0r> i'm reinstalling as soon as the final release is out anyway
[07:22] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  not going to just upgrade?
[07:22] <Moduliz0r> nah I like a fresh install
[07:22] <Moduliz0r> I guess I'm still used to being in Windows
[07:22] <Moduliz0r> Is there any way I can turn vsync on in Ubuntu?
[07:22] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  well this isn't windwos :P
[07:23] <Moduliz0r> I'll be back... (Trying Halo)
[07:23] <abadtooth> BRB gotta swap out an internet connection...
[07:23] <abadtooth> back :P
[07:23] <Moduliz0r> hi
[07:24] <Moduliz0r> couldn't get Halo to start
[07:24] <Moduliz0r> click the icon and nothing happens
[07:24] <abadtooth> thats sweet.. pulled the etho and plugged new one in so quick it didn't even stop playing pandora :P
[07:24] <abadtooth> hmm
[07:24] <Moduliz0r> oh wait
[07:24] <Moduliz0r> ill be back
[07:24] <abadtooth> try opening it from the terminal
[07:25] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  wine halo.exe
[07:25] <murlidhar> when i sudo apt-get install libboost-regex1.33.1 it says  Package libboost-regex1.33.1 has no installation candidate
[07:25] <murlidhar> what might be the reason
[07:25] <daSkreech> can't mount a ntfs drive in gutsy
[07:26] <savvas> south africa has its own english dialect? didn't know
[07:26] <savvas> (just installed myspell-en-za for language-support-en update lol)
[07:26] <daSkreech> not surprised
[07:27] <bqmassey> i'm running the Live CD.. and it's really slow..   how much disk space is required to install it
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> bloody hell
[07:27] <daSkreech> RC build
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> why do half the internet use .RAR?
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> it sucks
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> and now I cant extract it
[07:27] <nanonyme> unrar?
[07:27] <daSkreech> !rar
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> "Archive type not supported"
[07:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> i dont want to go and install a load of crap to unrar
[07:27] <savvas> Moduliz0r: sudo apt-get install unrar
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> bzip2 is better
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> I don't want to have to install it
[07:27] <nanonyme> relative
[07:28] <savvas> 7zip is better, but not so known
[07:28] <Moduliz0r> i like 7zip
[07:28] <jhaig> sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar file.rar; sudo apt-get uninstall unrar
[07:28] <bqmassey> anyone know how much disk space is required to install from the live cd?
[07:28] <bqmassey> 7.10-RC
[07:28] <nanonyme> bzip2 tarball has the problem that you have to uncompress the whole thing to get one file
[07:28] <nanonyme> whereas you can get a single file from rar
[07:29] <nanonyme> so it has its uses
[07:29] <foxiness> bqmassey: more then 2GB will be nice
[07:29] <bqmassey> would 6 gigs do it?
[07:29] <foxiness> sure
[07:29] <bqmassey> i'm only planning on installing it for a few days
[07:30] <foxiness> go ahead
[07:30] <foxiness> :)
[07:30] <bqmassey> what partition utilities are available from the Live CD? I need to resize the NTFS partition down and add linux partitions
[07:30] <daSkreech> I can't mount a partition
[07:30] <abadtooth> What is everyone opinions on envy? does it work very well?
[07:30] <daSkreech> bqmassey: parted gparted and qtparted
[07:30] <daSkreech> !envy
[07:30] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:30] <pwuertz> bqmassey: the live cd features ntfs resizing
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> Halo is running
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> but it's not doing anything
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> it's made my resolution crap
[07:31] <bqmassey> pwuertz: non-destructive?
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> and thats it
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> it's also eating my computer
[07:31] <pwuertz> bqmassey: indeed
[07:31] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r: hmm
[07:31] <bqmassey> yay
[07:31] <bqmassey> what's the best way to go about it? .. any gui?
[07:31] <foxiness> bqmassey: can u do that in windows ? if yes do it there not i think "coz am move from version to another" that it has tool to do that for u
[07:32] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  do you have a windows install you could rip the files from?
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> I do.
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> but
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> its XP x64
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> so no
[07:32] <pwuertz> bqmassey: xp will normally run scandisk when booting next time.. but I never had any problems with the ntfs resizer
[07:32] <bqmassey> pwuertz: how do i access it?
[07:32] <bqmassey> foxiness: not that i know of.. without an illegal copy of PartitionMagic
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> Thats a flaw in wine-run programs... they dont put the screen resolutuion back :(
[07:33] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  maybe get cedega
[07:33] <Moduliz0r> Cedega phailed even worse
[07:33] <foxiness> bqmassey: what ever :) its more safe "from real life"
[07:33] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  yeah..
[07:33] <Moduliz0r> cedega couldn't even make steam run
[07:33] <pwuertz> bqmassey: its an option in the normal installing routine... you can install ubuntu by resizing an existing ntfs partition..  it will use the new space as root partition
[07:33] <bqmassey> oh .. ok!..
[07:33] <Moduliz0r> ...i just changed my resolution back and saw a halo logo flicker :|
[07:34] <bqmassey> i have like $5,000-$15,000 worth of data for my company on this machine.. maybe i should back up first
[07:34] <pwuertz> bqmassey: its the default install option when there is a windows partition taking the whole hard drive
[07:34] <pwuertz> bqmassey: definately
[07:34] <bqmassey> ah screw it..  ubuntu will take care of me
[07:34] <bqmassey> :D
[07:34] <pwuertz> bqmassey: but you should do that anyways ^^
[07:34] <abadtooth> bqmassey:  might be a good idea..
[07:34] <daSkreech> how can I check that ntfs is loaded
[07:34] <bqmassey> going to go install now...  thanks guys :D
[07:36] <daSkreech> 9
[07:36] <daSkreech> Grrr
[07:37] <daSkreech> 0.o
[07:37] <daSkreech> Why would mounting break?
[07:38] <UbuntuGuy> I've got desktop effects enabled on gutsy,  How do I get to the fancy stuff (like in compiz-beryl) for cube, wobbly windows etc?
[07:39] <murlidhar> hi savvas i downloaded the whole iso just by renaming the jiggo iso.temp to temp
[07:39] <foxiness> UbuntuGuy: i think its the old way "Beryl manager"
[07:39] <murlidhar> savvas: it took an hour to download the iso
[07:40] <Moduliz0r> Under Cedega, Halo starts but quits with a Direct3D error
[07:41] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  have you tried to open it in the terminal?
[07:41] <ryancr_> with the latest updates, I am getting this when trying to boot: udev-event: run program '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[07:41] <ryancr_> I have to use the -12 kernel to be able to boot up
[07:42] <ryancr_> any ideas?
[07:43] <Moduliz0r> abadtooth: I can give you the output if you like
[07:43] <merc`> what do i have to get to have more compiz options/control ?
[07:43] <merc`> the 3 options in the appearance tab aren't doing it for me ;)
[07:43] <Ximal> hey all ..
[07:44] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  okay
[07:44] <Moduliz0r> !pastebin
[07:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <Moduliz0r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40413/
[07:46] <foxiness> ryanakca: try to search about this on (google,launchpad,ubuntu forum)
[07:48] <UbuntuGuy> foxiness: I'm looking for it.  Doesn't seem to be installeld and aptitude search beryl comes up empty
[07:49] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  you did get those Dll's right?
[07:50] <Moduliz0r> which ones?
[07:50] <Ximal> i need help guys .. I seem to have found a bug with the sound card and sound rendering
[07:50] <Moduliz0r> i got the one it said on WineHQ
[07:50] <Ximal> Everytime I close a program and the sound stops.. It doesn't let me have sound in any other program..
[07:50] <abadtooth> try this guid
[07:50] <Ximal> I can't have sounds in multiple programs either.. it locks the sound to the last used program.. and when i close it i loose sound till reboot
[07:50] <abadtooth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486986
[07:51] <Moduliz0r> ok
[07:51] <Ximal> is anyone able to help ? i'm not wanting to bug or troll.. i just need to know if there is a fix for it
[07:52] <foxiness_> UbuntuGuy: u may need something like that on source list "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ feisty main/" ,just to know i do not enable this yet "not tested"
[07:52] <foxiness_> UbuntuGuy: try to replace feisty with new one :)
[07:52] <ryancr_> foxiness: i have but haven't been able to find anything related to gutsy
[07:53] <Ximal> if you wanna get it running
[07:53] <Ximal> go to ktorrent .. or some other torrent prog..
[07:53] <Ximal> download virtual machine by vmware.com
[07:53] <Ximal> and then get yourself a key .. if by any means.. legal at best..
[07:53] <Ximal> but download it for linux..
[07:54] <Ximal> then setup windows 98 or millenium for * hard drive space and rendering issues *
[07:54] <Ximal> and the virtual machine will allow you to run windows as a shell
[07:54] <murlidhar> emet: Package libboost-regex1.33.1 has no installation candidate is the error how do i solve it
[07:54] <Ximal> and you can install any windows pendent progs u need to bro..
[07:54] <Moduliz0r> i've got the halo splash screen
[07:55] <Moduliz0r> it's killing my system and doesn't seem to be progressing
[07:55] <Moduliz0r> appears to have just crashed too
[07:56] <murlidhar> !info libboost-regex1.33.1
[07:56] <ubotu> Package libboost-regex1.33.1 does not exist in gutsy
[07:56] <nanonyme> !info libboost-regex
[07:56] <ubotu> Package libboost-regex does not exist in gutsy
[07:56] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  what version of wine do you have?
[07:56] <murlidhar> !info libboost
[07:56] <ubotu> Package libboost does not exist in gutsy
[07:56] <murlidhar> grr
[07:56] <Moduliz0r> the latest
[07:57] <riotkittie> hee
[07:57] <nanonyme> murlidhar, how about using ubuntu packages list to actually search for it?
[07:57] <Moduliz0r> ii'm trying it virtual desktoped now
[07:57] <Moduliz0r> not much of a difference
[07:57] <murlidhar> can somebody help me i am getting a error installing libboost it says E: Package libboost-regex1.33.1 has no installation candidate
[07:57] <murlidhar> nanonyme: ^
[07:57] <nanonyme> murlidhar, means it doesn't exist? :P
[07:57] <Moduliz0r> i think it just crashed
[07:58] <Moduliz0r> Yes, it did.
[07:58] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  doesn't make much sense to me.. now I'm gunna have to dig up my halo cd and try it :P
[07:58] <murlidhar> nanonyme: i am not sure
[07:58] <nanonyme> murlidhar, "has no installation candidate" is pretty self-explanative
[07:58] <Moduliz0r> haha
[07:58] <Moduliz0r> aah i cant get a terminal up or the run app window to kill it
[07:59] <Moduliz0r> its lagging too bad or something
[07:59] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  that was on of the first pc fps games I played :P
[07:59] <Moduliz0r> i love Halo :'(
[07:59] <murlidhar> nanonyme: This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:59] <murlidhar> is only available from another source
[07:59] <Moduliz0r> my gnome menu seems to have frozen
[07:59] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  uh oh..
[08:00] <nanonyme> murlidhar, it doesn't exist
[08:00] <nanonyme> that's the main point
[08:00] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  I just got compiz working on my old dell :D
[08:00] <Moduliz0r> haha
[08:00] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  first time I've ever had 3D effects on it :D
[08:00] <Moduliz0r> i think this computer is in need of an X server restart
[08:01] <abadtooth> mod okay
[08:01] <abadtooth> mod ctrl+alt+backspace :P
[08:01] <murlidhar> nanonyme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40412/ see the line 17 & 18
[08:01] <Moduliz0r> Hello again!
[08:02] <nanonyme> !info libboost-regex1.34.1
[08:02] <ubotu> libboost-regex1.34.1: regular expression library for C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.34.1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 537 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[08:02] <Moduliz0r> Ima gonna have to cry about Halo
[08:02] <nanonyme> murlidhar, seriously, learn to use tools
[08:02] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  lol
[08:02] <nanonyme> i found that as soon as i bothered opening my firefox
[08:03] <murlidhar> nanonyme: err thanks :P
[08:04] <wastedfluid> hello... I have a question.  I did the rc upgrade from 7.04, and now my volume keys on my laptop no logner work.  if you volume up, it goes to 11%(no higher), if you volume down, it goes to 0%.. master channel is PCM, but it doesn't work.  If you open Kmix, and change PCM in there.. it DOES work.  Any ideas?
[08:06] <addos> does anyone see lame in the apt repository?
[08:08] <murlidhar> can anybody explain my problem ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40415/
[08:08] <murlidhar> nanonyme: please have a look^
[08:08] <nanonyme> egh
[08:08] <daSkreech> !info lame
[08:08] <daSkreech> !info lame gutsy
[08:09] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB
[08:09] <nanonyme> you didn't say you were software-developing
[08:09] <nanonyme> murlidhar, libboost-regex-dev
[08:09] <nanonyme> see if you have that installed
[08:09] <murlidhar> nanonyme: should i install this ?
[08:09] <nanonyme> indeed
[08:09] <nanonyme> you cannot compile against libboost-regex without it
[08:10] <murlidhar> nanonyme: says already the newest version
[08:10] <nanonyme> hmm
[08:10] <nanonyme> have you checked which versions libtorrent wants?
[08:11] <nanonyme> there might be problems with some particular versions
[08:11] <nanonyme> and you might have to install libboost-regex from sources if there are
[08:11] <murlidhar> nanonyme: well 1.33.1
[08:12] <addos> thanks for the info about multiverse
[08:12] <addos> :)
[08:12] <abadtooth> who likes 7.10?
[08:12] <Moduliz0r> mE!1
[08:13] <addos> I do, other than a bug I found and posted
[08:13] <Moduliz0r> which was that
[08:13] <addos> can't install flashplugin-nonfree on firefox
[08:13] <Moduliz0r> I could
[08:13] <addos> I couldn't, at least not on live cd
[08:13] <ryancr_> ok got the -14 kernel to boot (bad secondary drive) but now I get this: but now the nvidia module doesnt' load
[08:13] <abadtooth> I'm loving it because I was just now able to get 3D effects on my old dell deimension 3000
[08:13] <Moduliz0r> oh
[08:13] <Moduliz0r> ok
[08:13] <addos> I could do ed effects with feisty too
[08:13] <murlidhar> nanonyme: strange feisty wanted libnotify 0.4.4 and now gutsy wants libboost-regex1.34.1
[08:13] <addos> 3d
[08:13] <ryancr_> trying: modprobe nvidia gives me: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[08:14] <murlidhar> nanonyme: now i have to wait for hardy heron
[08:14] <abadtooth> I couldn't get ubuntu to install on any of the older versions
[08:14] <murlidhar> wth
[08:14] <cellofellow> the Gnome desktop manager seems to have crashed. I have nothing but a black desktop, and the Compiz cube has no sides, just the caps.
[08:14] <cellofellow> How do I turn on the GNOME desktop thingy?
[08:15] <daSkreech> Little help with mounting a drive
[08:15] <cellofellow> it's based on nautilus, is it not?
[08:15] <nanonyme> murlidhar, can't do debugging atm, i think i'm getting a flu
[08:15] <Moduliz0r> cellofellow: have you tried restarting the X server?
[08:15] <abadtooth> wowowowowow It's only using 170MB of ram with all those 3D effects!!
[08:15] <nanonyme> you'll have to solve the stuff yourself
[08:15] <cellofellow> Moduliz0r: yuo
[08:15] <cellofellow> yup
[08:15] <Moduliz0r> i dont know then :|
[08:15] <murlidhar> nanonyme: thnks for helping me out anyways get well soon
[08:17] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  oh by the way I got americas army 2.8.1 working with wine, just no PB..
[08:17] <Moduliz0r> PB?
[08:17] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  it ran very smooth..
[08:17] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  punk buster
[08:17] <Moduliz0r> oh
[08:17] <Moduliz0r> ok
[08:18] <abadtooth> what I did was copy every dll from my windwos install over to wine, as well as a couple tweeks in winecfg
[08:18] <Moduliz0r> noob question - does ubuntu support the 1440 x 900 at 60Hz resolution?
[08:18] <savvas> wine?
[08:19] <abadtooth> !wine
[08:19] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[08:19] <savvas> lol
[08:19] <murlidhar> can anybody solve my problem???  here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40415/
[08:19] <savvas> didn't america's army have a native linux installer?
[08:19] <abadtooth> back in 2.5
[08:19] <abadtooth> now it's 2.8..
[08:19] <savvas> microsoft paid  them off eh?
[08:19] <murlidhar> hi savvas
[08:19] <abadtooth> I bet..
[08:19] <savvas> hi murlidhar
[08:19] <savvas> hi Ximal .. and the rest :P
[08:20] <cellofellow> there we go. just `nautilus` got the desktop back. Must have crashed.
[08:20] <cellofellow> brb
[08:20] <murlidhar> i just renamed the jigdo iso.temp to .iso and then used the rsync and the whole iso download in under a hour
[08:21] <murlidhar> savvas: ^
[08:21] <savvas> nice
[08:21] <murlidhar> :)
[08:21] <savvas> glad to hear that
[08:21] <murlidhar> and i am loving this RC
[08:21] <xet7> What is the equivalent of /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in Ubuntu? I need to add kernel mods to mount eSATA drive I have (Silicon Image Sil3132).
[08:21] <daSkreech> savvas: No
[08:21] <addos> the RC is much better than the beta
[08:21] <addos> :)
[08:21] <savvas> daSkreech: ?
[08:22] <daSkreech> savvas: Microsoft didn't pay them off
[08:22] <savvas> ah haha
[08:22] <daSkreech>  the guy who does the linux port stopped being paid to do it
[08:22] <Pici> !upstart | xet7
[08:22] <ubotu> xet7: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[08:22] <savvas> that was a "thinking out loud" :p
[08:22] <daSkreech>  he kept doing it for 5 months I think unpaid
[08:22] <remarK-> I just installed the RC of gutsy, but programs seem to have some trouble opening. I tried to open up gdesklets (for the simple dock i had) to test out and it wouldn't go.
[08:22] <daSkreech> then he stopped. He blogged about it
[08:22] <savvas> hum.
[08:22] <remarK-> terminal also seems to not show up.
[08:22] <savvas> nice
[08:22] <abadtooth> that guy has my respect!
[08:23] <savvas> why don't we port it to launchpad? hehehe
[08:23] <abadtooth> at least he made up to 2.5...
[08:23] <daSkreech> So if you could make a slush fund you'd probably get it back in a few months
[08:23] <xet7> Pici: thanks :)
[08:23] <daSkreech> Yeah the release of that oone is where he blogged
[08:23] <savvas> daSkreech: nobody pays me to help out here :p
[08:23] <daSkreech> savvas: not Open source :)
[08:23] <murlidhar> savvas: could u have a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40415/
[08:23] <savvas> looking
[08:23] <Moduliz0r> i never understood upstart
[08:23] <Moduliz0r> time to take another read
[08:23] <daSkreech> savvas: and you have all right to quit without explanation
[08:24] <savvas> yep
[08:24] <daSkreech> I don't know I ever will :(
[08:24] <savvas> daSkreech: so did he, he wasn't getting paid ;p
[08:24] <daSkreech> savvas: he quit more for time reasons
[08:24] <daSkreech> but I'm figuring if you could compensate for his time he would do it again
[08:24] <abadtooth> At least ET:QW qill be put soon!
[08:24] <abadtooth> will*
[08:25] <Moduliz0r> how do I use Upstart to make a program (a daemon) autostart with Ubuntu?
[08:25] <abadtooth> will be out*
[08:25] <abadtooth> lol
[08:25] <remarK-> anyone know why terminal isn't opening for me in gutsy RC?
[08:25] <savvas> it's closed source, isn't it?
[08:25] <abadtooth> Who has or will get ET:QW when the Linux client?
[08:25] <daSkreech> lp ?
[08:25] <savvas> murlidhar: why are you trying to make libtorrent?
[08:25] <daSkreech> savvas: What is ?
[08:26] <savvas> daSkreech: et quake wars
[08:26] <abadtooth> savvas:  yeah
[08:26] <savvas> I'm not into games anymore, not so much time I'm afraid :\
[08:26] <murlidhar> savvas: it requires to be compiled in order to compile a torrent client called linkage
[08:27] <daSkreech> savvas: yeah I think so
[08:27] <Moduliz0r> how do i make a daemon auto-start with ubuntu
[08:27] <savvas> murlidhar: you have a lot of torrent clients: Transmission Deluge-torrent Rtorrent ...
[08:27] <kristjan_> Where does "options usbcore autosuspend=1" go? tried "/etc/modprobe.d/options", but options did not apply...
[08:27] <daSkreech> ktorrent :)
[08:27] <savvas> murlidhar: www.deluge-torrent.org
[08:27] <murlidhar> savvas: i know :_)
[08:27] <jc-denton> hi all
[08:27] <Moduliz0r> hi
[08:27] <abadtooth> hello
[08:27] <jc-denton> how can i change the screen resolution in gutsy manually
[08:27] <wastedfluid> hello... I have a question.  I did the rc upgrade from 7.04, and now my volume keys on my laptop no logner work.  if you volume up, it goes to 11%(no higher), if you volume down, it goes to 0%.. master channel is PCM, but it doesn't work.  If you open Kmix, and change PCM in there.. it DOES work.  Any ideas?
[08:27] <Moduliz0r> can anyone tell me how I make a daemon auto-start?
[08:27] <jc-denton> since xorg.conf is ignored?
[08:27] <savvas> murlidhar: then why are you buzzing your head with something that can be replaced in 3 seconds?
[08:27] <murlidhar> deluge is starting to become a great client
[08:27] <jc-denton> it does not recognize the resolution of my screen
[08:28] <murlidhar> savvas: just experience in compiliing
[08:28] <murlidhar> savvas: i saw that application in fedora and it kicks
[08:28] <savvas> murlidhar: man make :P
[08:29] <daSkreech> man woman
[08:29] <savvas> lol
[08:29] <savvas> I'm not a fan of compiling
[08:29] <savvas> unless it's my code while I'm learning c/c++ :p
[08:29] <murlidhar> how to exit a man???
[08:29] <remarK-> when i try and launch a terminal, a quick flicker (of what i guess is what the terminal is trying to launch) and nothing happens. Thoughts?
[08:29] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  you can't adjust it in system/prefs/screen resolution?
[08:29] <savvas> murlidhar: q
[08:29] <jc-denton> no
[08:29] <jc-denton> with gconf?
[08:29] <jc-denton> well with the gui tool
[08:30] <FOAD> Ok, what are all these "the generated cache was invalid" lines I keep getting while upgrading?
[08:30] <jc-denton> there is just one resolution
[08:30] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  do you have your video card drivers?
[08:30] <jc-denton> and this is not the optimal resolution
[08:30] <jc-denton> no
[08:30] <jc-denton> it's a radeon 2600
[08:30] <jc-denton> not recognized by the restricted driver manager
[08:30] <abadtooth> there is envy, but thats not too good..
[08:30] <murlidhar> savvas: the torrent client is based on C++
[08:30] <abadtooth> go to ati's site and find your driver I guess
[08:31] <jc-denton> well i don't need 3d for now
[08:31] <remarK-> software sources will not launch either (upon system -> software sources)
[08:31] <jc-denton> but the correct resolution
[08:31] <murlidhar> savvas: http://code.google.com/p/linkage/
[08:32] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  yes, but at least with nvidia it has it's own setting manager with you can set most any reso..
[08:32] <jc-denton> well nvidia is different
[08:32] <jc-denton> and how can i install fglrx manually?
[08:33] <Moduliz0r> lets see how low my framerate will be in Garry's mod then...
[08:33] <abadtooth> with the terminal?
[08:33] <Moduliz0r> 44.
[08:34] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  I've never used a ATI card so sorry if I'm not much of a help..
[08:34] <Moduliz0r> anyone know why my framerate is so low?
[08:34] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  just remember Google.com is you friend ;)
[08:35] <abadtooth> Moduliz0r:  you know I don't :P
[08:35] <kadakas> Has anyone gotten a CDMA modem working with Ubuntu? How?
[08:35] <sinX_> Anyone know how to mount .bin & .cue's, I can't seem to find a linux app that will do it?
[08:36] <jc-denton> yeah that's what i do
[08:36] <jc-denton> but still
[08:36] <jc-denton> there has to be a way
[08:36] <jc-denton> just did not find it
[08:36] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  yeah..
[08:36] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  are you using 7.10?
[08:36] <jc-denton> does anybody know which cpus are supported by the open source radeon driver?
[08:36] <jc-denton> what 7.10?
[08:36] <jc-denton> u mean gutsy?
[08:37] <remarK-> anyone anyone out there know why i can't open up a terminal or the software sources windows?
[08:37] <remarK-> they just flicker on my desktop then nothing.
[08:37] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  hmm you might find someone who knows something about ati cards in the #ubuntu channle
[08:38] <abadtooth> jc-denton:  there are like 1200 people in that channel..
[08:38] <sanotehu> I'm on Kubuntu Gutsy. Twice now, I've closed the lid of my laptop, my session has been locked, and I've tried to unlock it only to find that the field where I'm supposed to enter my password isn't accepting any input. This isn't happening consistently and I can't figure out anything I'm doing that might be causing it.
[08:38] <abadtooth> be back in a bit guys... gotta go eat
[08:39] <jc-denton> yes..
[08:39] <jc-denton> anyway
[08:39] <Moduliz0r> my mouse keeps escaping my game window and then wine is holding keys down so I carry on moving :|
[08:39] <jc-denton> i must be able to configure x manually
[08:39] <jc-denton> also if xorg.conf is ignored
[08:40] <jc-denton> ok then
[08:40] <jc-denton> i see that i need to work on windows for now
[08:41] <soulfreshner> i have a problem when specifying vga=<anything> in the boot options
[08:41] <soulfreshner> since upgrading to gutsy, my text consoles don't work in any other resolution than the default
[08:42] <jc-denton> hrmm
[08:42] <jc-denton> is there a gutsy mailing list?
[08:43] <remarK-> i got a x window system error when trying to launch gnome-terminal from xterm. any suggestions?
[08:43] <remarK-> I can give the xterm info if needed.
[08:44] <jc-denton> hrmm
[08:44] <jc-denton> i'll write a mail to the list
[08:44] <daSkreech> Little help with mounting a drive?
[08:44] <remarK-> possibly wrong drivers, do i need to install new drivers? any info appreciated.
[08:45] <savvas> daSkreech: ubuntuguide didn't help?
[08:45] <daSkreech> savvas: no it won't mount
[08:45] <savvas> daSkreech: errors?
[08:45] <abadtooth> jc-denton: you should post your problem on the ubuntu forums
[08:45] <therion_> hi all, someone can help me to fix this problem http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7150/mohaabug1xp5.png ?
[08:46] <abadtooth> the what bug?
[08:46] <savvas> therion_: ..? what's wrong with that?
[08:46] <therion_> black textures.. :(
[08:46] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: what is the issue you are having?
[08:47] <therion_> in all games quake3 engine based
[08:47] <gnomefreak> therion_: turn compiz off
[08:47] <savvas> I see them brown here
[08:47] <savvas> hey g!
[08:47] <therion_> my compiz it's off when i play games
[08:47] <gnomefreak> black textures/screen/lines normally video card low on memory
[08:47] <gnomefreak> hi savvas
[08:48] <savvas> oh well.. anyway, I'm out
[08:48] <therion_> yes, i've an ati radeon 9100 igp with the last mesa drivers
[08:48] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: i can't change the resolution\
[08:48] <jc-denton> since xorg.conf is ignored
[08:48] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: why is it ignored?
[08:48] <jc-denton> and the gui thing gives me only one possible resolution
[08:49] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: i'
[08:49] <jc-denton> err
[08:49] <jc-denton> i'm on gusty
[08:49] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: the xorg.conf is never ignored
[08:49] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: you have the wrong idea about bulletproofX
[08:49] <therion_> anyway what i can do?
[08:49] <jc-denton> sure
[08:49] <gnomefreak> !fixres | jc-denton
[08:49] <ubotu> jc-denton: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:49] <jc-denton> but i read and it says it's not being used
[08:50] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: it is being used, just that there are other ways to edit it without opening it
[08:50] <gnomefreak> example displayconfig-gtk
[08:50] <Moduliz0r> how can I stop my mouse escaping DirectX programs (under Wine)
[08:51] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: look up your monitor specs and video card specs and add the screen res' to your xorg.conf
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Moduliz0r: you might want to try #wine for that
[08:51] <wastedfluid> hello... I have a question.  I did the rc upgrade from 7.04, and now my volume keys on my laptop no logner work.  if you volume up, it goes to 11%(no higher), if you volume down, it goes to 0%.. master channel is PCM, but it doesn't work.  If you open Kmix, and change PCM in there.. it DOES work.  Any ideas?
[08:51] <jc-denton> humm
[08:51] <jc-denton> i did
[08:51] <gnomefreak> wastedfluid: right click volume-control in upper right and open prefferences see what you pc speaker is set to
[08:52] <jc-denton>              Modes           "1680 x 1050" "(pitch" "1400)"
[08:52] <jc-denton> om the Display section
[08:52] <wastedfluid> gnomefreak: I use KMIx(kubuntu) - there is no preferences.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: is compiz on? what card and drivers are you using and did you restart X
[08:53] <gnomefreak> wastedfluid: kmix should have  setting dialog maybe running kmix?
[08:53] <jc-denton> compiz with vesa?
[08:53] <jc-denton> no of course not
[08:53] <wastedfluid> the "master" volume is set to PCM if that's what you mean.
[08:53] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: why are you using vesa?
[08:54] <wastedfluid> gnomefreak: master is set to PCM if that's what you mean.  If you use the manual sliders, you can change the volume.  Alsamixer always works.. I think it's a keyboard shortcut that's messing up.
[08:54] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: hrmm
[08:54] <jc-denton> because i have an ati radeon 2600
[08:54] <gnomefreak> wastedfluid: it may be i remember someone else having this issue yesterday
[08:54] <jc-denton> which does not seem to be supported by the open source radeon driver and neither recognize by the restricted driver manager
[08:55] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: so there are drivers for it in ubuntu
[08:55] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: if it would be recognized it would work w/o any problem
[08:55] <therion_> gnomefreak: my problem (black textures) it's fixable if i try to overclock my radeon 9100?
[08:55] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: which?
[08:55] <remarK-> getting BadMatch error when launching gnome-terminal. Need some help.
[08:55] <wastedfluid> gnomefreak: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_(Gutsy_Gibbon)_Beta_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Volume.2FSound_Buttons this guy had the issue.  but his patch wouldn't work for me.
[08:55] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: what did r-m tell you?
[08:56] <jc-denton> if finds nothing
[08:56] <jc-denton> "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers."
[08:56] <gnomefreak> i could swear the drivers in repos works for that card
[08:57] <jc-denton> which repos/
[08:57] <jc-denton> ?
[08:57] <jc-denton> then tell me how to enable it
[08:57] <jc-denton> but the radeon 2600 is pretty new
[08:57] <jc-denton> so i wasn't surprised
[08:57] <jc-denton> the only thing that annoys me is that i'm no able to set the correct resolutino
[08:57] <jc-denton> s/resolutino/resultion
[08:58] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: start with the guide i gave you while im loooking this up
[08:59] <kadakas> so no CDMA modem experience here ?
[08:59] <jc-denton> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX
[09:00] <jc-denton> In this mode, the current xorg.conf will be ignored; instead a VESA 800x600/256 configuration will be used. In some (rare) cases, hardware may not support VESA, in which case a VGA 640x480/16 mode will be the fallback, or framebuffer if that won't work either. These cases will be tracked by means of a blacklist file.
[09:00] <jc-denton> sry for the spam
[09:00] <jc-denton> but i had to post it
[09:00] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: that is because bulletproofX is running your Xserver
[09:00] <remarK-> anyone out there that can help with the gnome-terminal not launching problem?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: notice "in this mode"
[09:01] <jc-denton> yes
[09:01] <jc-denton> how can i do anything against that?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: what is the name of the drivers you tried?
[09:01] <jc-denton> nothing
[09:02] <daSkreech> ARGH
[09:02] <Cassius> hi
[09:02] <addos> why doesn't gutsy have mouse over audio previews anymore?
[09:02] <Cassius> how can i upgrade tu rc1 from gusty beta?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Cassius: just do you updates
[09:02] <Cassius> haha ok, thx
[09:03] <Pici> !final | Cassius
[09:03] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: try installing the drivers than
[09:03] <ubotu> Cassius: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[09:03] <gnomefreak> !ati | jc-denton
[09:03] <ubotu> jc-denton: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <Cassius> now... how can i install correctly compiz-fusion
[09:03] <Cassius> ?
[09:03] <addos> were the mouse over audio previews removed from gutsy?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Cassius: see system>prefferences>appearance
[09:03] <gnomefreak> addos: i think so
[09:04] <Cassius> i tried but not working for me
[09:04] <Cassius> :(
[09:04] <sashimi> hi everybody :)
[09:04] <addos> also, how can you force gutsy to mount ntfs readonly?
[09:04] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: ok
[09:04] <addos> so that it won't mount with fuse
[09:04] <gnomefreak> Cassius: install the 3d drivers for your video card
[09:04] <sashimi> I'm having trouble getting the gnome bluetooth applet to connect to my phone (or whatever device in fact)
[09:04] <gnomefreak> addos: mount it without using ntfs-3g
[09:04] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: but how do i install them with the restricted driver manager
[09:04] <remarK-> would installing new video drivers fix a X problem? (i can give the exact issue if required. just trying to get some help.)
[09:04] <addos> gnomefreak: well, I mean, I want it to do that with the gui mounting
[09:05] <Cassius> mm
[09:05] <addos> gnomefreak: how do I control/configure what the gui tools use to mount the filesysetm
[09:05] <addos> filesystem
[09:05] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: you may not beable to, not sure if you are having that bug or they may not support those drivers.
[09:05] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: aha
[09:06] <jc-denton> and THAT WHY I JUST WANTED TO CHANGE THE RESOLUTION
[09:06] <jc-denton> but nobody can tell me how
[09:06] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: in dead mode you cant change res
[09:06] <astinus-work> Good Evening :) I'm having a problem with LTSP after upgrading to Gutsy Gibbon, all my clients use NFS and I'm getting a lot of complaints from thin clients about necessary directories being mounted r/o despite being specified as rw_dirs= in the ltsp-client-setup file
[09:06] <astinus-work> Would anyone with LTSP have any idea about the "suggested" migration path to NBD, as I believe NFS is now deprecated for LTSP?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: you can only change res. once you are out of the fall back X mode
[09:06] <jc-denton> humm
[09:07] <trevor> I can't run adept...
[09:07] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: to do this you HAVE to find drivers for it maybe try xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> search for it first incase name is wrong
[09:07] <trevor> Anyone know why adept won't install packages?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> trevor: error?
[09:08] <trevor> I think so...
[09:08] <jc-denton> hrmm
[09:08] <gnomefreak> what are you trying to do what is it doing, trevor we cant guess at your issue
[09:08] <Pici> trevor: What is the error.
[09:08] <jc-denton> i'm sick of not working gpus under linux
[09:09] <trevor> It says that some packages can't be installed.
[09:09] <gnomefreak> why
[09:09] <trevor> It would cause them to break...
[09:09] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: how can i enable them?
[09:09] <trevor> Same thing happened to me with java in 7.04
[09:09] <jc-denton> i mean manually?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> trevor: open terminal run sudo apt-get install packages....
[09:09] <jc-denton> edit xorg.conf?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: read the links i gave you
[09:09] <trevor> Okay...
[09:09] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: once installed change driver to ati
[09:10] <gnomefreak> reboot and hope it works if not your back to where you are now
[09:10] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: so you mean fglrx?
[09:10] <jc-denton> or the open source driver?
[09:10] <trevor> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to resolve the problem.
[09:10] <gnomefreak> did i say fglrx?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> trevor: than run it if it still fails pastebin the errors but apt-get -f install should fix it
[09:10] <jc-denton> "once installed"
[09:11] <jc-denton> the ati driver is already isntalled
[09:11] <trevor> Okay...
[09:11] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: try in #ubuntu-effects see if someone there can help you
[09:12] <trevor> It's all ACPI...
[09:12] <jc-denton> ok
[09:12] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: well thx for the suggestions
[09:13] <remarK-> anyone ANYONE know why my terminal isn't loading?
[09:14] <trevor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40431/
[09:14] <Pici> remarK-: Are you getting errors? in gnome? kde?
[09:14] <remarK-> Pici: gnome. fresh Gutsy RC install.
[09:15] <Pici> remarK-: Any errors?
[09:15] <remarK-> if you would like, i can PM you the xterm output when trying to launch from there.
[09:15] <xet7> where should I put "modprobe sata_sil" and other commands to run on ubuntu boot? /etc/init.d/mountall.sh file or something else?
[09:15] <Pici> remarK-: can you pastebin it?
[09:15] <Tominator> hi!
[09:15] <Pici> !paste
[09:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:15] <trevor> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40431/
[09:16] <remarK-> how do i copy from xterm?
[09:16] <Pici> er
[09:17] <Pici> select and middle click to paste?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> trevor: can i have full command and output
[09:17] <derFuchs> strg+shift+c
[09:18] <remarK-> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40432/
[09:18] <gnomefreak> trevor: im willing to bet if you install kubuntu-desktop it will fix it if not there is a package there stopping it but hard to tell without full output
[09:18] <Pici> remarK-: log a bug please.
[09:18] <Pici> !bugs | remarK-
[09:18] <ubotu> remarK-: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:18] <igge> hello...
[09:19] <igge> seems that /bin/arch is missing in gutsy
[09:19] <gnomefreak> Pici: X drivers?
[09:19] <Pici> gnomefreak: error launching gnome-terminal
[09:20] <gnomefreak> oh thats not good. he might have mixed packages/versions
[09:20] <Pici> remarK-: you can run other programs fine, right?
[09:20] <trevor> Hold on...
[09:20] <igge> in feisty /bin/arch is in util-linux, but it's not there in gutsy... /bin/arch is quite fundamental isn't it?
[09:20] <Pici> He said it was a fresh install
[09:20] <remarK-> Pici: I can't go to system -> software sources
[09:20] <bqmassey> yay..  got the RC installed.. my first ubuntu installation
[09:20] <bqmassey> how do i spin the cube?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> suggest installing ubuntu-desktop to make sure/
[09:20] <remarK-> Pici: But I can launch pidgin and firefox. The problem seems somewhat limited.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> remarK-: what ISo version is this install?
[09:21] <Pici> remarK-: Is this an upgrade?
[09:21] <remarK-> Pici: I did the update-manager install over fiesty. I assume that was the correct way it was the way shown in the wiki.
[09:21] <Pici> remarK-: Yes. that should have worked.
[09:21] <Pici> remarK-: and it worked before the upgrade, right?
[09:21] <elliotjhug> Does anyone know of a repo that provides -unsupported plugins for compiz-fusion? (I realise that this repo will be highly unreccomended)
[09:22] <remarK-> Pici: Correct.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> remarK-: apt-cache policy gnome-terminal than gnome-help than ubuntu desktop
[09:22] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop
[09:22] <remarK-> gnomefreak: pardon?
[09:22] <trevor> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40435/
[09:23] <gnomefreak> remarK-: pastebin the output of apt-cache policy gnome-help  than apt-cache policy gnome-terminal than apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <remarK-> gnomefreak: than = then? (i'm not being condescending. trying to clarify.)
[09:24] <gnomefreak> trevor: start with sudo dpkg --configure acpi-support  than try same with acpid
[09:24] <Pici> remarK-: yes.
[09:24] <trevor> gnomefreak: Okay...
[09:24] <gnomefreak> remarK-: run the first command than the 2nd than the 3rd and pastebin all output
[09:25] <remarK-> gnomefreak: gotcha.
[09:25] <gnomefreak> trevor: i get that in chroots never got it in main install before. i had to remove them for chroot to work but you should beable to configure them in a certain order
[09:26] <gnomefreak> remarK-: gnome-help == gnome-terminal  (versions should be same)
[09:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop will not be same version
[09:26] <trevor> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40438/
[09:27] <remarK-> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40439/
[09:27] <remarK-> pici: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40439/
[09:27] <MTecknology> !package uswsusp
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package uswsusp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:27] <gnomefreak> trevor: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 == file a bug its an internal failure
[09:27] <GNUtoo-laptop> hello, i have 2 java implemetations(the default gcj) and icedtea....how do i manage the java and javac simlinks(is there no program for doing that?)
[09:27] <MTecknology> ubotu doen't know about uswsusp?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> remarK-: what version of gnome-panel do you have installed?
[09:28] <trevor> gnomefreak: Okay, now other people with this type of laptop are having problems with wireless, power management, acpi...
[09:28] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: it doesnt know what package is
[09:28] <bqmassey> i have a fresh 7.10-RC install... how do i spin the cube?
[09:28] <MTecknology> !info uswsusp
[09:28] <ubotu> uswsusp: tools to use userspace software suspend provided by Linux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6~cvs20070618-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 136 kB, installed size 412 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc)
[09:28] <MTecknology> o - lol
[09:28] <Pici> MTecknology: its !info, not !package
[09:28] <gnomefreak> bqmassey: try in #ubuntu-effects
[09:28] <trevor> gnomefreak: I can't get Acer_acpi to work for some reason...
[09:28] <remarK-> gnomefreak: how do i check the version number of gnome-panel?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> remarK-: apt-cache policy
[09:28] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: Segmentation fault (core dumped) what does this mean?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: that means something crashed
[09:28] <bqmassey> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:28] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: what was it?
[09:29] <MTecknology> it sucks... ubuntu standard suspend hibernate never worked on this hardware, I barely had it working in 7.04, and it's gone in 7.10
[09:29] <GNUtoo-laptop> or is there a channel for ubuntu and java?
[09:29] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: linkage torrent client when i ran from terminal
[09:29] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: can you run it from menus?
[09:29] <remarK-> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40440/
[09:29] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: it doesn't start
[09:29] <DanaG> I fixed suspend on my laptop by editing /etc/default/acpi-support.
[09:30] <gnomefreak> GNUtoo-laptop: sudo update-alternatives --all
[09:30] <DanaG> I have VBE_POST set to false and SAVE_VIDEO_PCI_STATE set to true.
[09:30] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: to be honest i compiled that application
[09:30] <gnomefreak> GNUtoo-laptop: pick what app you want to use this will configure all of them (cant remember what one is java that you want)
[09:30] <GNUtoo-laptop> gnomefreak, thanks...
[09:30] <trevor> gnomefreak: Other people have downgraded the BIOS, and got it to work, and it amazingly fixed everything...
[09:30] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: than you need to go to wher eyou compilied it from
[09:30] <murlidhar> using there instructions at http://code.google.com/p/linkage/wiki/Installation
[09:31] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: ^
[09:31] <trevor> gnomefreak: Would you recomend this?  I always thought it was dangerous...
[09:31] <gnomefreak> trevor: that maybe right but thats not a fix, it needs to be fixed in app.
[09:31] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: k
[09:31] <remarK-> gnomefreak: did you see the gnome-panel version link?
[09:31] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: we cant support 3rd party apps.
[09:31] <gnomefreak> remarK-: not yet give me asec
[09:32] <remarK-> gnomefreak: k
[09:32] <gnomefreak> remarK-: thats what i was afraid of
[09:32] <remarK-> gnomefreak: haha, oh no.
[09:32] <gnomefreak> remarK-: file a bug with the backtrace of the issue
[09:32] <MTecknology> DanaG, I can't find VBE_POST
[09:33] <gnomefreak> remarK-: or if you have the crash report in /var/crash (i remember missmatch but cant remember if crash or not
[09:33] <remarK-> gnomefreak: backtrace being the output of the xterm when trying to launch gnome-terminal?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> savvas: since we seem to be taking shifts ITS YOUR TURN ;)
[09:34] <igge>  is gnome-compiz-preferences the command to use to configure compiz?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> remarK-: no not really add that to bug as well
[09:34] <gnomefreak> !backtrace
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backtrace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <gnomefreak> damn you
[09:34] <igge> it doesn't work... nothing happens when I run it...
[09:34] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: u r right but i am trying to compile in gutsy anyways i will try to recompile it . thanks for giving me a hint :)
[09:34] <gnomefreak> remarK-: brb getting instructions for you
[09:34] <MTecknology> DanaG, is VBE_POST something I'll need to add?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> remarK-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace?highlight=%28backtrace%29
[09:36] <gnomefreak> murlidhar: it doesnt matter wher eyou are trying to compile it you compilied it and it doesnt run since it wasnt from ubuntu repos there is nothing we can do about it you might try #ubuntu-offtopic see if someone in there can help you
[09:38] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: i didn't mean to harm  you sorry if you mistook it
[09:38] <remarK-> gnomefreak: Thank you for all your help.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> !backtrace is <reply> To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[09:38] <ubotu> I'll remember that, gnomefreak
[09:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu ty
[09:38] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:38] <murlidhar> gnomefreak: rather u have helped me in a lot of cases
[09:40] <MTecknology> DanaG, I just tried adding those lines, same thing happened. It get's to the point where the light should start blinking, then hangs
[09:42] <FlyingPig> I WANT TO ORDER GUTSY GIBBON
[09:42] <FlyingPig> WHY I CANT DO THIS
[09:42] <FlyingPig> ????????
[09:42] <gnomefreak> FlyingPig: you want to lose the caps
[09:42] <gnomefreak> FlyingPig: you need an LP id
[09:42] <FlyingPig> sorry
[09:42] <murlidhar> !caps | FlyingPig
[09:42] <ubotu> FlyingPig: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:42] <murlidhar> hmm a bit late me sorry
[09:42] <FlyingPig> gnomefreak ok help me get one
[09:43] <gnomefreak> FlyingPig: got o launchpad.net and make one
[09:43] <FlyingPig> free?
[09:43] <FlyingPig> is free?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> FlyingPig: for further help please join #launchpad
[09:43] <FlyingPig> ok
[09:43] <gnomefreak> FlyingPig: yes free
[09:43] <FlyingPig> :D
[09:43] <murlidhar> :0
[09:43] <murlidhar> :)
[09:46] <trevor> Someone was having problems with memory card readers?
[09:52] <SilentDis> hello
[09:52] <LiMaO> c-68-49-242-241.hsd1.dc.comcast.net -- this idiot is flooding people
[09:55] <Moduliz0r> how do I force the mounting of an NTFS drive?
[09:56] <Moduliz0r> it was uncleanly shut down and it wont mount :(
[09:57] <Moduliz0r> Please, how do I mount it?
[09:58] <qzio> Moduliz0r: man mount? try google, i would guess mount --force or something
[09:59] <lee_> hi ya guys
[09:59] <lee_> is running the 64 bit version and so far the only thing I have encountered was having to exectute the update manager manulay
[09:59] <daSkreech> qzio: I can't mount a ntfs drive anymore in  gutsy
[10:00] <lee_> hu?
[10:00] <qzio> that seems not-so-fun
[10:00] <daSkreech> Yeah
[10:00] <daSkreech> mount device path
[10:01] <daSkreech> no errors no feedback
[10:01] <Moduliz0r> i have the same problem
[10:01] <daSkreech>  is it mounted
[10:01] <qzio> wierd..
[10:01] <Creationist> Anyone know of any alternatives to GNUCash that has a better interface (more reminiscent of Quicken)?
[10:01] <daSkreech> nope!
[10:01] <Moduliz0r> mine wont mount because of an unclean shutdown
[10:01] <lee_> any one here running the 64 bit version?
[10:01] <daSkreech> 1info-e, --delete            delete files not present at remote site kmymoney
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> Creationist: try kmymoney
[10:01] <daSkreech> !info kmymoney
[10:01] <qzio> Creationist: let me know if you find any :)
[10:01] <daSkreech> !info kmymoney2
[10:01] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in gutsy
[10:01] <ubotu> kmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional.  :P
[10:03] <FlyingPig> hello sir i use ubuntu feisty fawn today and i will install gutsy gibbon soon and how do i get my current GUI settings to gutsy gibbon from feisty fawn???
[10:03] <FlyingPig> HELP ME
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> FlyingPig: just upgrade
[10:03] <MrMark79> hi all
[10:03] <FlyingPig> fyrestrtr yes i order cd 7,1
[10:04] <FlyingPig> but i need to save this GUI file before i do
[10:04] <savvas> FlyingPig: in gone terminal, do this: update-manager -d
[10:04] <savvas> *gone=gnome
[10:04] <daSkreech> FlyingPig: you should get two Cds one of them you can upgrade from
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> heh, gone terminal
[10:04] <Valued> i upgraded from kubuntu feisty to gutsy beta and lost my network.  i don't have a clue as to diagnosing the problem.  i reset the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to just the first four lines.
[10:04] <savvas> no comments! :p
[10:04] <FlyingPig> savvas you think i joke?
[10:04] <FlyingPig> this is serios
[10:05] <MrMark79> I upgraded gutsy and enabled compiz with cube effects. Now I notice that CTRL-ALT-left/right shifts the desktop twice instead of one, so from 1=>3 instead of 2. I'm not sure wheter this is a gutsy problem or just a setting I missed.. someone able to help me out ?
[10:05] <FlyingPig> canot be wrong
[10:05] <Nido> hi
[10:05] <Nido> what do I have to do to upgrade from Tribe 5 to Release Candidate?
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> Nido: run update manager
[10:05] <omha> fyrestrtr, what do you mean gone terminal?
[10:05] <savvas> FlyingPig: to upgrade your current release, you have to either do "update-manager -d" or download the alternate cd
[10:05] <FlyingPig> savvas i order it from shipit
[10:06] <r0bby> :-x
[10:06] <savvas> Nido: you already have it if you are up-to-date
[10:06] <daSkreech> FlyingPig: back up your /etc folder and your home folder
[10:06] <omha> i woudnt back up /etc
[10:06] <FlyingPig> daskreech thanks this answer i was looking for
[10:06] <savvas> FlyingPig: it will take you 3 months to get to you
[10:06] <omha> just /home/$user
[10:06] <daSkreech> FlyingPig: if you just want settings then you should back up hidden folders in your home folder
[10:06] <FlyingPig> savvas i pay so i get faster
[10:06] <daSkreech> FlyingPig: Note this might still lead to some danger
[10:06] <savvas> oh
[10:06] <FlyingPig> i tell them to make me priority one
[10:06] <FlyingPig> :P
[10:07] <Nido> FlyingPig: savvas, you don't need to do nothing to get the Release Candidate?  Will be the same for Gutsy final?
[10:07] <savvas> Nido: exactamundo!
[10:07] <Nido> ok
[10:08] <savvas> FlyingPig: very well, I don't know if it's the alternate cd you ordered, but if you ordered the desktop, I think the only thing to upgrade from there is format your / (root) partition, and you'll keep your settings if you have /home in a separate partition
[10:09] <savvas> thing = way
[10:09] <FlyingPig> savvas i will backup /etc and /home
[10:09] <FlyingPig> and i will hope it works :P
[10:10] <daSkreech> gnomefreak: ppoke
[10:11] <daSkreech> FlyingPig: Should but it might not
[10:11] <redheat> hi everyone
[10:11] <redheat> guys got a quicky, how to disable desktop icons in both GNome and KDE
[10:12] <MTecknology> When I run 'hibernate-disk -fk' I get this error 'Some modules failed to unload: ipw3945'
[10:12] <FlyingPig> redhat is illegal accoarding to steve ballmer
[10:12] <redheat> I'm trying to enable this AWESOME CUBE on my Desktop
[10:12] <FlyingPig> :S
[10:12] <redheat> Desktops
[10:12] <redheat> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Cube#3d
[10:12] <redheat> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Cube#3d
[10:12] <savvas> FlyingPig: it does work, I use it all the time!
[10:12] <redheat> sorry double post
[10:13] <savvas> redheat: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:13] <savvas> redheat: then head to menu: system > preferences > advanced desktop effects
[10:13] <redheat> no, I didn't mean that, I just want to disable desktop icons under GNOME and Under KDE
[10:14] <savvas> you wanted to enable cude
[10:14] <savvas> *cube
[10:14] <redheat> ok..thank you I"m just asking about how to disable desktop icons
[10:14] <savvas> which ones?
[10:14] <redheat> yes, and for that reason to have all the cube walls
[10:14] <redheat> isn't there an option under KDE that says disable desktop icons? isn't there one like it under gnome
[10:15] <redheat> you know what I'll try to look it up again..thank you so much for your time..
[10:15] <savvas> you mean all the icons?
[10:15] <redheat> yes
[10:15] <redheat> if possible, don't have to bother yourself
[10:15] <savvas> there's no such thing in gnome, I asked for the same thing and they said it's not possible. I don't know if kde has it though
[10:16] <savvas> you can disable several of them in gnome, but not the manually-put ones
[10:16] <savvas> :P
[10:16] <redheat> no KDE has it when you right click on the wallpaper and choose Desktop COnfiguration..
[10:16] <redheat> how can you do that
[10:16] <redheat> disable them under gnome..
[10:18] <redheat> you know never mind, I'll come back and post result if possible
[10:18] <savvas> applications > system > configuration > / > apps > nautilus > desktop >
[10:18] <redheat> thanks anyway
[10:18] <savvas> there you have some
[10:18] <redheat> sorry where is that exactly?
[10:19] <savvas> ubuntu menu
[10:19] <redheat> you mean the system tools menu
[10:19] <savvas> well.. have pitty on my hands :)
[10:19] <redheat> no I don't mean that
[10:19] <redheat> cause I don't have a configuration option under system tools? that's why I'm asking
[10:19] <savvas> yes, system = system tools
[10:20] <savvas> er..
[10:20] <savvas> are you sure you're using ubuntu ?
[10:20] <redheat> yes
[10:20] <redheat> I'll even gonna state what I have down there...adept manager
[10:20] <savvas> redheat do this command: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get -f install
[10:20] <redheat> DOphin
[10:20] <savvas> wait
[10:20] <savvas> you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:21] <daSkreech> Kubuntu :)
[10:21] <savvas> bah
[10:21] <redheat> I already have it installed
[10:21] <redheat> are you using ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10
[10:21] <redheat> ?
[10:21] <savvas> 7.10
[10:22] <savvas> redheat: kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome by default, I don't know what you've tinkered with and what desktop manager you use at the moment..
[10:22] <redheat> I"m using gnome, and I have not tinkered with anything important regarding the settings
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> redheat: run gconf-editor
[10:24] <redheat> ok its open
[10:24] <redheat> the gconf editor
[10:24] <FlyingPig> http://fyrchan.se/b/src/1192113798627.jpg
[10:24] <FlyingPig> ops wrong chat
[10:24] <redheat> no problem
[10:24] <AncientRelic> I'm trying to install Gutsy on my new laptop
[10:25] <AncientRelic> but I don't want to toast Vista just yet
[10:25] <AncientRelic> I can't resize the partition using the installer
[10:25] <redheat> so pop in the CD and start installing on any unpartitioned space
[10:25] <AncientRelic> any ideas?
[10:25] <freelock> Doesn't Vista come pre-toasted?
[10:26] <redheat> don't have to do it this way
[10:26] <AncientRelic> freelock, lol
[10:26] <redheat> just let Ubuntu do it for you..using the largest unused space
[10:26] <redheat> simple as that
[10:26] <AncientRelic> redheat: no free space
[10:27] <AncientRelic> freelock, my primary box IS a Feisty one
[10:28] <savvas> my primary box is carbon-based, it has some whitish and gray matter and it's called the brain! now beat that! :)
[10:28] <AncientRelic> savvas wins
[10:29] <sinX_> anyone know how to mount or burn .cue & .bin files?
[10:29] <savvas> AncientRelic: have you tried any other partition managers?
[10:29] <AncientRelic> savvas: I just decided to screw it and blew it away
[10:29] <savvas> AncientRelic: say.. partition magic?
[10:29] <sinX_> or what app to use?
[10:29] <savvas> works well with ntfs partitions
[10:29] <AncientRelic> savvas: I could have dredged up my Hiren's CD but nah
[10:29] <AncientRelic> lets go for it
[10:31] <savvas> AncientRelic: paragon is in hiren's too, that one's great as well
[10:31] <sinX_> Anyone know what program to use to mount .bin & .cue files?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mount
[10:31] <savvas> sinX_: is it a vcd?
[10:31] <daSkreech> sinX_: there is a program to right click mount them in KDE
[10:32] <sinX_> yes vcd
[10:32] <sinX_> but I have gnome
[10:32] <savvas> sinX_: vlc
[10:33] <savvas> download vlc media player
[10:34] <sinX_> I already have vlc but, how do I mount files with it?
[10:34] <cromo> hi. anyone here who does have some knowledge on the new "bulletproof X"?
[10:35] <cromo> after one of updates, gdm/startx start with wrong resolution (basic 800x600) despite the xorg.conf settings.
[10:35] <cromo> I tried everything, still no luck with solving this issue
[10:35] <sinX_> savvas: how do I mount files with vlc?
[10:35] <AncientRelic> sinX_: what kind of files?
[10:35] <savvas> cromo: edit xorg.conf and remove all the unwanted resolutions
[10:36] <savvas> cromo: then save and reboot
[10:36] <sinX_> bin & cue
[10:36] <sinX_> I know how to play them
[10:36] <cromo> savvas: I am not lame ;-) this is not the case
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> vlc will open cue files automatically
[10:36] <cromo> I said, gdm/startx will ignore these settings
[10:36] <cromo> an will always start at the lowest resolution
[10:36] <cromo> *and
[10:36] <savvas> sinX_: no idea, someone mentioned the mount command
[10:37] <sinX_> ya, I need to burn bin & cue files
[10:37] <AncientRelic> sinX_: try brasero?
[10:37] <savvas> sinX_: then open them with a burner application!
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> use k3b
[10:37] <cromo> I am worried that if I post this issue as a bug in launchpad it will get ignored
[10:37] <savvas> cromo: post it, it shouldn't get ignored
[10:38] <savvas> cromo: I fixed one of them yesterday, same workaround did the trick
[10:38] <cromo> savvas: even removing xorg.conf and falling back to 7.2 automatic settings thre resolution will be set wrongly. my CRT provides correct DDI info so it's even more weird
[10:38] <sinX_> savvas...lol..that was my initial question...what program do I use to burn or mount bin and cue
[10:39] <savvas> sinX_: now you're talking, you can use: k3b brasero gnomebaker
[10:39] <savvas> k3b is the most stable if you ask me
[10:39] <cromo> savvas: I know the trick, but here the case is different. everything worked fine until I made an upgrade couple of weeks ago, when some bigger bulletproff changes were applied to xserver-xorg
[10:39] <sinX_> great thankx :) I'll check it out!
[10:40] <savvas> cromo: I'd file the bug :)
[10:40] <Pusur> Between the login screen and the desktop I get this plain orange background, for a couple of seconds. Is it possible to make this the same as the background I have in both the login screen and the desktop? Kinda annoying
[10:41] <cromo> savvas: I will, although I am scared it will get lost
[10:41] <savvas> Pusur: yes, you use a login screen theme :)
[10:41] <Pusur> Hm? I already have the same background in the login screen and the dekstop
[10:41] <channel200> Is anyone successfully running Gutsy with a Radeon 9200 card?
[10:42] <savvas> Pusur: system > administration > login window
[10:42] <savvas> Pusur: oh.. then.. dunno
[10:42] <Pusur> The problem is where the splash screen is
[10:42] <AncientRelic> channel200: I've got it running with a Radeon 9000
[10:43] <Pusur> I'm running 9200SE
[10:43] <channel200> AncientRelic: I'm having problems. Did you need to do anything special?
[10:43] <`Matir> is it possible to install from an ISO on an external hard drive?
[10:43] <savvas> Pusur: maybe it's the background colour.. I mean right click on desktop, change desktop backg, under "colors" change the solid colour
[10:43] <AncientRelic> channel200: for the basics no
[10:43] <channel200> AncientRelic: flglx?
[10:43] <AncientRelic> channel200: are you wanting Compiz?
[10:43] <channel200> AncientRelic: Yes
[10:43] <AncientRelic> channel200: do you have the driver in restricted driver manager?
[10:44] <savvas> cromo: never! :P
[10:44] <channel200> AncientRelic: Says that I don't need restricted drivers when I open the Restricted Driver Manager
[10:44] <savvas> cromo: they say to report the bugs no matter how minor they are, someone always takes a look
[10:44] <AncientRelic> channel200: so does mine, I haven't tried the compiz bits yet
[10:44] <Pusur> savvas: Not possible using an image here, then?
[10:44] <Pusur> *there
[10:44] <AncientRelic> channel200: Its on the list for this weekend :)
[10:45] <savvas> Pusur: that's it? you had orange there? I believe not :\
[10:45] <channel200> AncientRelic: I'm having problems getting with X prior to worrying about xgl
[10:45] <AncientRelic> channel200: No problems with X so far
[10:46] <AncientRelic> channel200: I'm doing a reinstall with the gutsy RC this afternoon
[10:46] <Pusur> That feature should really be there. Can't be too hard implenting either
[10:46] <channel200> AncientRelic: Which driver from the Screens and Graphics panel? Ati -> Radeon or Ati -> Radeon flglx?
[10:47] <AncientRelic> channel200: Start with Radeon
[10:48] <AncientRelic> channel200: Let me get my ATI box back up, and I'll look myself
[10:48] <AncientRelic> channel200: I'm right in the middle of getting Gutsy on my new laptop :P
[10:51] <silent[ca] > hey guys, how many seeds are up for the gutsy iso?
[10:51] <silent[ca] > wondering whether I should ftp or torrent
[10:51] <AncientRelic> I'm seeding the live and the alternate i386 right now
[10:53] <AncientRelic> deluge says 246 desktop seeds, 76 alternate seeds
[10:53] <bb-g> hi all
[10:54] <channel200> AncientRelic: Have you used the alternate CD to upgrade? Is it working now?
[10:54] <bb-g> can someone tell me is gutsy is going to be able to format disks in ntfs?
[10:54] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, I'll be getting hte alternate cd... wait channel200 is there something wrong with alt?
[10:54] <AncientRelic> channel200: I'm using it for my laptop, the desktop wouldn't boot
[10:54] <mrannanj> bb-g: let me check if ntfs project had mkntfs
[10:54] <AncientRelic> bb-g: Gutsy has NTFS-3g in it
[10:55] <channel200> silent[ca] : The beta alternate CD was working properly, but I'm hoping it's fixed now.
[10:55] <mrannanj> bb-g: yes it has mkntfs in it
[10:55] <bb-g> and as i understood it can read and also write to these disks
[10:56] <channel200> silent[ca] : I meant the beta alternate CD wasn't working properly - haven't tried RC
[10:56] <mrannanj> bb-g: yes
[10:56] <AncientRelic> bb-g: That's what ntfs-3g is for
[10:56] <silent[ca] > channel200, reassuring... and where can I get the .torrent? the ubuntu site turned into a beautiful user-friendly panel for accessing 7.04
[10:56] <bb-g> i'm new to linux ad  of today so i want to apologise for noobish q's
[10:56] <mrannanj> bb-g: np
[10:57] <AncientRelic> bb-g: we all either had or have them
[10:57] <bb-g> just installed ubuntu 7.10 RC to make a fileserver with it
[10:57] <channel200> silent[ca] : ubuntu.com/testing
[10:57] <silent[ca] > channel200, thanks
[10:58] <mrannanj> bb-g: network fileserver need not use ntfs filesystem.. unless you use disks from windows
[10:59] <bb-g> because i was told it is possible to make a software raid5 with it and to expand it later if necessary
[10:59] <bb-g> the rest of my network is windows
[10:59] <mrannanj> bb-g: what you want is samba server then
[10:59] <gnomefreak> savvas: have you noticed a big jump in X driver issues?
[11:00] <mrannanj> bb-g: ntfs you need only for using disks you used in windows previously
[11:00] <AncientRelic> OK, got the alternate loaded
[11:00] <bb-g> the situation
[11:00] <AncientRelic> I get the splash but when it tries to go to X, freeze time
[11:00] <silent[ca] > its amazing how ubuntu progresses so quickly. I remember I first tried it back in hoary...
[11:00] <bb-g> i have 6 300GB disks
[11:00] <bb-g> 1 is gilled with data
[11:00] <savvas> gnomefreak: you mean everyone complaining about resolutions? yeah
[11:00] <savvas> :p
[11:01] <gnomefreak> savvas: resolutions/hard time installing drivers ect..
[11:01] <mrannanj> bb-g: ok.. i know nothing of raid, i only have JBOD :)
[11:01] <bb-g> i want to make a raid 5 with those and then copy the data and expand the RAID later on
[11:01] <savvas> gnomefreak: well, they all want to try out the compiz craze :)
[11:01] <gnomefreak> true
[11:01] <PC-Ente> hi
[11:02] <mrannanj> bb-g: but linux fileservers are mainly using native linux filesystems like ext3, reiserfs and using samba to communicate with windows
[11:02] <PC-Ente> i installed ia32-bit java on my ubunutu
[11:02] <savvas> nevertheless, that's good, if I ever change a card, the bug will be already reviewed :P
[11:02] <bb-g> i can tell you that a matrox mystique runs but it isn't a charm to watch the screen
[11:02] <PC-Ente> but its not working in firefox
[11:02] <channel200> savvas: or run google earth
[11:02] <PC-Ente> ialso made a simbolc link to plugin-folder from firefox
[11:02] <savvas> channel200: ?
[11:02] <AncientRelic> any suggestions to get X going?
[11:02] <lee_> WOW I HAVE PROBLEM I CAN READ MOMS MICROSOFT WORKS FILES UGGGGG
[11:02] <DanaG> Gaack, even the latest gnome-power-manager doesn't fix my screen turning off when I try to change brightness.
[11:03] <bb-g> where can i get info about the raidpart of this setup?
[11:03] <mrannanj> hm
[11:03] <kurisutofuaa> So how is the release candidate everyone?
[11:03] <DanaG> I have to press the brightness key FIVE times to get to the next brightness level.
[11:03] <mrannanj> bb-g: i would google "linux raid"
[11:03] <mrannanj> bb-g: pick a good howto
[11:03] <savvas> lee_: is that a problem between the chair and the computer? :p
[11:03] <lee_> ok for real any one in hre using the 64 bit version of gutsy ..please ay I am not the only one
[11:04] <PC-Ente> i use 64bit to
[11:04] <lee_> No its a problem as it created an extreme schockk of amazement
[11:04] <LiMaO> lee_: i was using it a few days ago, but got rid of it and went back to 64bit feisty
[11:04] <PC-Ente> and am happy that flash works so easy but java is not workling right now
[11:04] <lee_> ahhh
[11:04] <AncientRelic> any help getting X going?
[11:04] <lee_> I havnt used 64bit fiesty
[11:04] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: java not working on 64bit gutsy was the reason i went back to 64bit feisty.. also openoffice wouldn't work for me either
[11:05] <bb-g> i still use the 32bit versions
[11:05] <savvas> lee_: x86_64 since june :)
[11:05] <lee_> actaully I loaded the worng Ubuntu lol
[11:05] <mrannanj> bb-g: np
[11:05] <silent[ca] > I'm getting upwards of 500kb/s torrenting the alternate.... WOW.
[11:05] <lee_> oh coolio
[11:05] <savvas> and that's because my motherboard went *poof*
[11:05] <PC-Ente> LiMaO, openoffice works well
[11:05] <lee_> I ma running the Kubuntu lol
[11:05] <PC-Ente> im not think java manuell installtion 32bit woud work and chroot 32bit java workes to
[11:06] <lee_> eh i kinda like the features
[11:06] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: it wouldn't work for me.. writer would freeze if i tried to format a page, or set preferences
[11:06] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: let me give you a link, it may work for you
[11:06] <bb-g> the problem i'm experiencing with linus is that there is too much information
[11:06] <lee_> hmm. wierd it working fine fer me
[11:06] <silent[ca] > I'll seed the alternate till the 18th
[11:06] <lee_> oh the tmi syndrome...yeah i am suffering from that too
[11:06] <radius> is it safe to restart kdm with these new updates to 3.5.8?
[11:07] <bb-g> i have to study a lot of tutorials only to be able to set the damn thing up
[11:07] <lee_> i did and it worked fine
[11:07] <radius> k
[11:07] <radius> thanks
[11:07] <lee_> lol
[11:07] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[11:07] <mrannanj> bb-g: perhaps so
[11:07] <lee_> throws out the manuals and dives in
[11:07] <gnomefreak> radius: yes 3.5.8 is safe
[11:07] <silent[ca] > so guys, overall impression of gutsy?
[11:07] <DanaG> My bug: bug 121833
[11:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when between discrete levels, both from hotkeys and from dim-on-idle." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833
[11:07] <radius> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:07] <silent[ca] > I'm downloading now
[11:07] <gnomefreak> np
[11:07] <cromo> savvas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/152109
[11:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 152109 in xorg "gsm/startx will ignore xorg.conf resolution settings and run with very low resolution" [Undecided,New]
[11:07] <lee_> crappy on a 32 bit
[11:08] <lee_> the screens sluggish and  it keeps crashing my system
[11:08] <bb-g> but hey, i installed the thing allready, but still have to work a lot of things out
[11:08] <lee_> I loaded the 64 bit taking a gamble and it paid off
[11:08] <Pusur> How do I avoid that the panels try to start between the splash and the desktop? It starts, and then exits, all in about 1 second...
[11:09] <mrannanj> bb-g: if you like setting up computer systems.. you will make it :)
[11:09] <lee_> great graphics no freezes, no locks up because of the card
[11:09] <bb-g> thx for the samba thing i'll check it out in aminu
[11:09] <savvas> lee_: except for the java & flash part, I'm cool too
[11:09] <lee_> eh video card
[11:09] <PC-Ente> im forced to use 64bit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/134856
[11:09] <bb-g> te
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134856 in ubuntu "Harddisk to slow on HP 6715s" [Undecided,New]
[11:09] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[11:09] <lee_> hmm this came with some kind of java in it allready
[11:09] <gnomefreak> crdlb: are you around atm? i have ati question for you
[11:10] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: check out that site, it may give you some light on getting java and flash working flawlessly on your system
[11:10] <bb-g> i'm network admin (windows) so i'm used that things fail
[11:10] <lee_> but then i am ruun th k-ubuntu
[11:10] <PC-Ente> thanks LiMaO
[11:10] <crdlb> hi
[11:10] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: you're welcome =)
[11:10] <PC-Ente> ubotu, whats with this bug
[11:10] <PC-Ente> i have it on my PC
[11:10] <savvas> cromo: I'll subscribe to it, you could nominate it for the gutsy release i think
[11:10] <silent[ca] > welcome, heartsblood
[11:10] <lee_> oh and its faster too online
[11:10] <silent[ca] > :P
[11:10] <heartsblood> lol hello ;)
[11:10] <crdlb> gnomefreak, what's the question?
[11:10] <mrannanj> bb-g: its not the simplest thing you start with ;) .. good luck
[11:11] <heartsblood> Does the gutsy release of compiz have the 3d desktop plugin yet?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> crdlb: ati radeon 2600  needs ati drivers from ati or do we supply drivers for it?
[11:11] <silent[ca] > I'm torrenting this at 560kb/s .... thanks for seeding guys this is amazing
[11:12] <crdlb> is that the HD 2600?
[11:12] <heartsblood> what torrent?
[11:12] <bb-g> i'm chatting through an ubuntu pc and figured that out in about an hour (taking the instal in account), i'll hope i'll see the end of the road someday at the end of the weekend
[11:12] <silent[ca] > heartsblood, alternate i386
[11:12] <gnomefreak> crdlb: thats all he told me was ati radeon 2600 but all i found was HD
[11:12] <gnomefreak> he said it was fairly new
[11:12] <PC-Ente> LiMaO, thanks for the link but i want do have java in the 64bit-firefox so...
[11:12] <crdlb> gnomefreak, that's an R600, you definitely need fglrx for that
[11:12] <cromo> savvas: how do I nominate it to gutsy?
[11:12] <crdlb> until the radeonhd driver gets finished
[11:12] <cromo> ah got it
[11:13] <savvas> cromo: under .. - ok :p
[11:13] <silent[ca] > has gutsy addressed the 64/32 bit incompatibility of flash/other plugins?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> crdlb: ty
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ill see if i cant ping him
[11:13] <heartsblood> silent[ca] : not without a hack
[11:13] <AncientRelic> X help please
[11:13] <silent[ca] > heartsblood, thanks
[11:13] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: whats up?
[11:13] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I did a fresh install from the alternate CD
[11:13] <Evanlec> silent[ca] , flash and those programs are not a ubuntu problem, its that adobe has not or will ot release 64bit flash
[11:13] <lee_> eh som one was telling me that some 32 bit can run in 64
[11:14] <mrannanj> bb-g: :)
[11:14] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: It locks up when X tries to start
[11:14] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: nvidia?
[11:14] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: yup
[11:14] <mrannanj> bb-g: its not so hard.. im thinking you dont need ntfs tho
[11:14] <silent[ca] > Evanlec, yes, but I was sort of wondering whether a simple utility had been created to bridge the two using 32 bit emulation or somesuch
[11:14] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: does it drop you into failsafe X
[11:14] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: complete freeze as far as I can see
[11:14] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I can boot into recovery
[11:14] <mrannanj> bb-g: is raid5 the mirror raid?
[11:14] <Evanlec> silent[ca] , there's a way to do it, but its still a hack ya know
[11:15] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: please file a bug on that, that is something the X devels need to look at
[11:15] <silent[ca] > Evanlec, yea, I'll leave it alone for now, 32 bit tends to be more compatible with most things anyway
[11:15] <silent[ca] > I like things to "just work"
[11:15] <Evanlec> silent[ca] , unfortunately yes
[11:15] <lee_> eh whats the software thats greyed out mean?
[11:15] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: any suggestions in the interim?
[11:16] <lee_> eh brb
[11:17] <radius> interesting, my themes have been updated with 3.5.8 and seem to look better
[11:17] <silent[ca] > guys, I just installed linux... where's my C: drive???
[11:18] <DigitalNinja> Has anyone done an update today?
[11:18] <heartsblood> lol
[11:18] <mrannanj> lol
[11:18] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : are you dual booting?
[11:18] <DigitalNinja> I want to know if the update works
[11:18] <radius> DigitalNinja, just did an update and nothing failed
[11:18] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, no, just bored, waiting for the download to finish so I can burn :/
[11:18] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : ah, evil then
[11:18] <heartsblood> c:\ == /dev/hda0
[11:18] <DigitalNinja> radius: Nice!
[11:18] <frostburn> hmm why wouldn't i be able to change resolutions, i have the appropriate modes in my xorg.conf
[11:19] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, well, actually i am dual-booting with vista.. but I dont talk about that anymore... its a dark part of my hard drive
[11:19] <Evanlec> if envy worked fine for me in feisty 32bit, no reason it shouldnt work in gutsy 64bit right?
[11:19] <DigitalNinja> As soon as I get home I'll run an updat/upgrade
[11:19] <Evanlec> silent[ca] , lol
[11:19] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : right now I just want my X to work :P
[11:19] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, its not working?
[11:19] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : nope
[11:19] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, driver-related?
[11:20] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : I suspect
[11:20] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : I boot into recovery
[11:20] <Evanlec> when anyone ever gets their xorg.conf file right, ALWAYS make a backup of it, it'll save you plenty of misery
[11:20] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, tried vesa/nv/nvidia?
[11:20] <LiMaO> lee_: are you using kde browser?
[11:20] <LiMaO> i'm not sure of its name
[11:20] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : and try to do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:21] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, have you edited xorg.conf n try vesa/nv/nvidia drivers?
[11:21] <LiMaO> PC-Ente: that will only be possible when sun releases a 64bit java plugin
[11:21] <silent[ca] > or ati if you have an ati card
[11:21] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] :  from my xorg.conf: Driver "nv:
[11:21] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : "nv"
[11:22] <heartsblood> if I use a x64 version of ubuntu and an application 'made for x64' (ie. distrubuted computing f@H) would I see any increase to performance with less than 4gb of ram?
[11:22] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, try vesa
[11:22] <savvas> < heartsblood> c:\ == /dev/hda0 <-- let me see you cd to that :p
[11:22] <LiMaO> heartsblood: yes, surely
[11:22] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, as a temporary fix... if you haven't already
[11:22] <AncientRelic> silent[ca] : trying now
[11:22] <heartsblood> savvas: I was being a smart arse
[11:22] <Evanlec> Question: Envy works fine with Gutsy ya???
[11:22] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: is this upgrade or clean install?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: no dont use it
[11:22] <Evanlec> no?
[11:22] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: clean
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: use restricted-manager
[11:23] <Evanlec> but thats not the latest driver
[11:23] <savvas> heartsblood: I raise that to a bragging arse :)
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: no you will regret it
[11:23] <heartsblood> :(
[11:23] <savvas> heartsblood: I'm talking about me :p
[11:23] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: were you ever ablet o boot
[11:23] <gnomefreak> able to*
[11:23] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I can boot into recovery
[11:23] <AncientRelic> and run startx as root from there
[11:23] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, does vesa boot?
[11:23] <Evanlec> gnomefreak, k so i just try this guide maybe? using nvidia binary from their site? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: after install did X ever work right
[11:24] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: nope
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: use restricted-manager. its simple as checking one box
[11:24] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok and this was alternate cd?
[11:24] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: si senor
[11:24] <gnomefreak> good :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: are you in X atm?
[11:25] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: nope
[11:25] <Evanlec> gnomefreak, but i want the Latest driver 100.14 or whatever
[11:25] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: tty?
[11:25] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: yeah I use recovery option from grub
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: we have 100.19
[11:25] <Evanlec> does it pull the latest ?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new
[11:25] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: should I mention this is a laptop?
[11:25] <Evanlec> mah
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: yes
[11:25] <silent[ca] > oh god my alternate download just went from 560kb/s to 9kb/s. D:
[11:25] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: not right now but i will keep it in mind
[11:26] <Evanlec> alright i will begrudgingly agree
[11:26] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: un momento
[11:26] <Cable86> gutsy rocks so much
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: do as you wish im suggesting the best way to do it
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: keep in mind its your system you have to fix if it breaks
[11:26] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: let me know if its installed?
[11:26] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: what do you want?
[11:27] <Evanlec> gnomefreak, i know, you're right, appreciate the advice
[11:27] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: Installed: (none)
[11:27] <omha> OMFG
[11:27] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: :)
[11:27] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, have you tried driver "vesa" ?
[11:27] <omha>  South.Park.S11E08.DSR.XviD-LOKi RULES!!!
[11:27] <levander> Is the latest Gutsy release candidate basically ready for primte time, especially since I'm an @home user?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: what card do you have?>
[11:27] <usser> levander: yep pretty much
[11:27] <heartsblood> wow that's fast.  almost 6MBps on the gutsy update.  I've never seen my bandwidth go that high o.o
[11:27] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: GeForce 6100
[11:27] <Cable86> levander:  yep, it's quite stable
[11:27] <heartsblood> <3 fast .edu :)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: install nvidia-glx-new
[11:27] <DanaG> I love downloading directly from mirrors.kernel.org.
[11:27] <silent[ca] > gnomefreak why you hating on south park? ;P
[11:28] <PirateHead> Can anybody here help me with a compiz config issue?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> omha: spam somewhere else
[11:28] <levander> Gutsy isn't the nightmare, or even close to it, that Edgy was is it?
[11:28] <DanaG> It can saturate any connection.  Even GbE.
[11:28] <Evanlec> yea...donno why im getting 50k/sec now from nvidia...wtf
[11:28] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: let me know when its installed
[11:28] <Evanlec> actually no, its from the ubuntu archive
[11:28] <heartsblood> nvidia != .edu :)
[11:28] <Cable86> levander:  i never had problems with Edgy, so i would have to say no.  it's been very smooth and rock solid for me
[11:29] <Evanlec> its the restricted driver so its pulling from the gutsy repository...at a miserable 50k/s
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Evanlec: because the mirrors are being hit hard
[11:29] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: installed
[11:29] <gnomefreak> RC was just released
[11:29] <Evanlec> gnomefreak, ahhh, i thot that might be it
[11:29] <PirateHead> Sometimes Compiz changes when I use the GUI to configure it, but sometimes Compiz (and the GUI) refuses to reflect my changes.
[11:29] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: open restricten-manager
[11:29] <gnomefreak> restricted-manager even
[11:30] <gnomefreak> once open please if it doesnt say enabled enable it
[11:30] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: just type that on the command line?
[11:30] <levander> Cable86: For edgy, I actually had to boot the system off a LiveCD, chroot to my hard drives / directory, make changes to configuration files so they were not using DevFS (think that's what it's called), upgrade the kernel, then reboot the system, and then upgrade to DevFS.  It was a nightmare
[11:30] <heartsblood> Evanlec: do a bandwidth test on your sources list.  find a server that's better tuned for your connection
[11:30] <frostburn> is there any reason why i xrandr -s anything other than 1680x1050? http://pastebin.com/m68f332d8
[11:30] <levander> But thanks Cable86 and usser.  I'll probably upgrade to Gutsy tomorrow.
[11:31] <CoasterMaster> made it through safely to the other side!
[11:31] <Cable86> levander:  good luck!  hopefully your experience with Gutsy will be as great as mine has been :-)
[11:31] <silent[ca] > levander, why put off till tomorrow what you can do today?
[11:31] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I'm still not in X
[11:31] <heartsblood> Evanlec: I'm using an .edu that's in washington and my downloads are always off the scale.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> oh damn tty thats right
[11:31] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: no fear still easy
[11:31] <levander> silent[ca] : I have to figure out how to do my backups again.  Last time I did it was for the Feisty upgrade.  And I remember there were some flaws in my procedure last time.
[11:31] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: lol
[11:31] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, change driver to nvidia in xorg
[11:32] <silent[ca] > AncientRelic, if you havei installed glx
[11:32] <channel200> AncientRelic: can't get X configured for my Radeon 9200 - did you upgrade or is it a fresh install?
[11:32] <levander> silent[ca] : It's gonna be a half-day thing for me.  I need to get my backup process down smooth.
[11:32] <heartsblood> btw
[11:32] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: you want to sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:32] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: once open let me know
[11:32] <silent[ca] > levander, start now, sleep is overrated
[11:32] <Cable86> so here's a question for you...when you guys install the next version of ubuntu, do you upgrade or do a fresh install?
[11:32] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: already altered
[11:32] <silent[ca] > Cable86, I've done both
[11:32] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: what is driver?
[11:32] <silent[ca] > Cable86, depends how lazy I am
[11:33] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: nvidia
[11:33] <Cable86> i usually do fresh installs just to make sure i have a clean system :-)
[11:33] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: do you have options under device?
[11:33] <levander> silent[ca] : saying that to an insomniac who has slept poorly his whole life, you are not being very kind!
[11:33] <gnomefreak> should be 3
[11:33] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: Identifier and BusID
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ok add this under busid: Option"AddARGBVisuals""True"
[11:33] <silent[ca] > levander, you have insomnia... man I would kill to not have to battle off sleep with high-dose caffeine
[11:34] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: you want to space it out a bit more
[11:34] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: say 4-5 spaces between each part
[11:34] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: or a tab to make it neat? ;)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> next add Option    "AddARGBGLXVisuals"     "True"
[11:35] <Q_Continuum> If I install the current 'beta' will I need to make any changes to update to 'release'?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: sure
[11:35] <silent[ca] > Q_Continuum, No, just an update
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Q_Continuum: no just do your updates
[11:35] <Q_Continuum> Sweet.
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Q_Continuum: install from RC
[11:35] <levander> silent[ca] : trust me, you don't want insomnia... it's more than just not sleeping, you get completely crooked eyed, and still can't fall asleep, too tired to read... it sux, thank god for modern medications
[11:35] <Q_Continuum> I'll put it on my testing/server then.
[11:35] <silent[ca] > Q_Continuum, yes
[11:35] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: ok
[11:35] <Q_Continuum> RC or the 'beta' off the front page?
[11:35] <heartsblood> is it possible to get xgl to recognize dual monitors?  Last time I tried it, it wouldn't configure the divider between the 2 displays and maximized windows would span both views :/
[11:35] <Q_Continuum> I have the 'beta' already on a CD
[11:35] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: save it and close it
[11:35] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: done
[11:35] <silent[ca] > Q_Continuum, ubuntu.com/testing
[11:36] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: go to another tty and try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:36] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: assuming you are using gdm not kdm
[11:36] <gnomefreak> but replace as needed
[11:36] <TreMobyl> so, I'm having trouble using nvidia proprietary modules.  Is there a writeup on this business?
[11:36] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I've only got the 1 tty in recovery
[11:37] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: we dont support nvidia drivers from nvidia.com or envy
[11:37] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: should I change my runlevel for right now
[11:37] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok try reboot than
[11:37] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: even through the restricted driver manager?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: no those are ours
[11:37] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: whats the issue?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: reboot you should be good to go :)
[11:37] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: lemme dig up the relevant lines
[11:37] <silent[ca] > my dog is smacking his lips... I think he's dreaming he's eating people
[11:37] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: can you put them on pastebin
[11:37] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: fingers crossed I bought this laptop just for Linux :P
[11:38] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: im gonna smoke be back in like 3 minutes
[11:38] <cellofellow> Anybody else having CUPS stop a printer with IPP Backend Failed status messages?
[11:38] <silent[ca] > gnomefreak, me too, but not tobacco, oh snap
[11:38] <TreMobyl> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[11:38] <kane77> does the tracker work for you? I'm getting: "Process /usr/bin/trackerd exited with status 0"
[11:38] <silent[ca] > TreMobyl, apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[11:38] <TreMobyl> is really the only relevant X output
[11:38] <TreMobyl> silent[ca] : I gots 'em
[11:38] <silent[ca] > TreMobyl, I see
[11:39] <silent[ca] > gnomefreak, went for a smoke
[11:39] <crdlb> TreMobyl, you're not using the "nvidia" driver
[11:39] <TreMobyl> 100.14.19+2.6.
[11:39] <crdlb> you're probably using "nv"
[11:39] <AncientRelic> noob query: is it /etc/inittab that controls runlevel?
[11:39] <TreMobyl> crdlb: no, using nvidia
[11:39] <silent[ca] > my ubuntu download is done, yay
[11:39] <silent[ca] > getting blank cd
[11:39] <crdlb> TreMobyl, pastebin the Xorg.0.log then
[11:39] <jhaig> I have just tried installing the RC and it didn't complete.  As I was not connected to the internet it brought up a message to inform me that security packages were not checked and then the install exited.  Now, grub hasn't been configured (for one).  Firstly, is there a way now to complete the install (I have just rebooted to the CD) and secondly, where can I report this defect?
[11:40] <DanaG> My bug: bug 121833
[11:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when between discrete levels, both from hotkeys and from dim-on-idle." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833
[11:40] <TreMobyl> http://pastebin.com/d23df0d03
[11:40] <stefg> !bug | jhaig
[11:40] <ubotu> jhaig: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:40] <TreMobyl> modprove nvidia returns FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[11:41] <jhaig> stefg: Thanks.
[11:41] <TreMobyl> return value 1, for what that's worth
[11:41] <crdlb> TreMobyl, O_o
[11:41] <AncientRelic> How do I tell ubuntu to boot into TTY and not X again?
[11:41] <crdlb> you're using radeon
[11:41] <cellofellow> TreMobyl: means just Faile
[11:41] <cellofellow> -e
[11:41] <spasticteapot> Anyone know about the HRtimers patch?
[11:41] <stefg> jhaig: you can install grub from the Live CD, see if the system boots and repair with sudo apt-get -f install and dpkg --configure -a
[11:41] <spasticteapot> http://tglx.de/hrtimers.html
[11:41] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: didnt work?
[11:41] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: nope
[11:42] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:42] <AncientRelic> same freeze
[11:42] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: your gonna need to file a bug on it
[11:42] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: That's why I want to see if it will boot all the way to a tty
[11:42] <crdlb> TreMobyl, also see line 424
[11:42] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: do you get gdm at all?
[11:42] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: splash then nada
[11:42] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: good
[11:42] <crdlb> TreMobyl, you cannot use both cards with 3d acceleration because nvidia is evil
[11:42] <jhaig> stefg: The system doesn't boot because grub isn't configured correctly.  Chicken and egg.  :-)
[11:43] <TreMobyl> crdlb: "both cards" being?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: in grub/menu.lst you want to remove the part that says splash
[11:43] <crdlb> TreMobyl, the radeon and the nvidia
[11:43] <TreMobyl> crdlb: yeah, I'm living with the suck
[11:43] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: that will give you verbose output of the boot
[11:43] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: grub is in again?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: full path is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:43] <TreMobyl> crdlb: Right now, I just want all 3 screens to work
[11:43] <crdlb> TreMobyl, life will be much easier with the radeon
[11:43] <crdlb> oh wow
[11:43] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: lol, thanks
[11:43] <stefg> jhaig: that's what i'm talking about. install grub manually from the Live CD. open terminal on CD and enter sudo grub
[11:43] <TreMobyl> crdlb: yeah, it's the only screen that's running
[11:43] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: np :)
[11:44] <crdlb> TreMobyl, well to get the nvidia working, you need to switch to nvidia-glx
[11:44] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: people can barely get 1 to work
[11:44] <jhaig> stefg: Will that work?  Would I need to chroot to /target first?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:44] <crdlb> and I've never heard of that other card :)
[11:44] <gnomefreak> what card?
[11:44] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: "barely get 1" what to work?
[11:44] <stefg> jhaig: no, prolly not. depends on how much got installed before installer chickened out
[11:44] <bb-g> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Resize_LVM2_on_RAID5
[11:45] <bb-g> the solution to my problem
[11:45] <crdlb> gnomefreak, "Renditon Verite:"
[11:45] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: we reboot again
[11:45] <TreMobyl> crdlb: is nvidia-glx both original and extra crispy, erm, legacy
[11:45] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: alot of people cant get 1 screen to work due to bugs
[11:45] <spasticteapot> How do I turn on laptop_mode ?
[11:45] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: one screen of?
[11:45] <jhaig> stefg: I think it installed the complete system, and then exited when it came to checking for updates.
[11:45] <spasticteapot> It's apparently not on.
[11:45] <spasticteapot> Anyone?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: can i have full line from lspci for that rendition card
[11:45] <crdlb> TreMobyl, nvidia-glx is a legacy driver but it's much newer than nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:45] <jhaig> I think I'll just do another install - only take about 15 minutes.
[11:45] <bb-g> ow yeah, i wanted to report a bug in gutsy
[11:45] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: alot of people cant get X to work at all in gutsy
[11:46] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: 04:0e.0 VGA compatible controller: Rendition Verite V2000/V2100/V2200 (rev 06)
[11:46] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: works well on my notebook
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ty brb ill see what i can dig up
[11:46] <channel200> AncientRelic: what resolution are you running your Radeon at?
[11:46] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: but I'm doing it to help quash bugs before they hit others.  :)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> channel200: he has nvidia
[11:46] <bb-g> durig the install of the rc i encountered a screen telling me that my NIC wasn't found, when the install was compelted my NIC was just working fine
[11:46] <stefg> jhaig: so once you have a grub prompt all you have to do is ' find /boot/grub/stage1' see what partition comes up 'root (hd0,1)' or whatever is found, then 'setup (hd0)' .. voila, grub in mbr
[11:46] <AncientRelic> channel200: Dell Latitude D600 1400xsomething
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ah another pc
[11:47] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: it's freezing on dbus
[11:47] <bb-g> i have a onboard nic.my MB Asus p5b plus
[11:47] <spasticteapot> Hallo?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: fudge
[11:47] <spasticteapot> Anyone here know how to turn on laptop_mode?
[11:47] <spasticteapot> Is this a bug?
[11:47] <TreMobyl> crdlb: nvidia-glx fails to load
[11:47] <channel200> AncientRelic: Any chance of getting your xorg.conf for the Radeon 9200?
[11:47] <ratpoison> hello! need help. My update-manager has detected "Feisty GDM theme, but I have gutsy. Should I install?
[11:47] <TreMobyl> crdlb: same symptoms
[11:47] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: what version of dbus
[11:47] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: sorry, I've got Linux on 4 boxes :P
[11:47] <bb-g> i almost quited the installation because of this message
[11:48] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: reboot and find out?
[11:48] <cellofellow> Hello everybody!
[11:48] <TreMobyl> crdlb:
[11:48] <TreMobyl> cellofellow: howdy
[11:48] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: apt-cache policy dbus
[11:48] <TreMobyl> same symptoms for nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:48] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: un momento tambien
[11:48] <TreMobyl> none of the nvidia modules will load; no useful diagnostics produced
[11:48] <gnomefreak> crdlb: diamond stealth ring a bell?
[11:49] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: installed: 1.1.1-3ubuntu4
[11:49] <TreMobyl> in what directory should the nvidia module reside?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: damn
[11:49] <cookie_> I found a bug in the bluetooth connection to phones
[11:49] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok apt-cache show dbus
[11:49] <fredrin> how do i install linux-backports-modules?
[11:49] <cookie_> It does not allow me to connect to it
[11:49] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: how many versions are listed?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: you need fglrx drivers
[11:50] <jc-denton> i saw that
[11:50] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: found out :)
[11:50] <fredrin> just get a error message that says: Depends: linux-backports-modules-generic but it is not going to be installed
[11:50] <jc-denton> i also built and installed them
[11:50] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: seems like I only see one
[11:50] <jc-denton> now how can i make sure that they are loaded and not vesa?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> crdlb: TreMobyl im finding that this rendition card has alot of corruption bugs
[11:51] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: my LUG meeting tomorrow is going to love this challenge :)
[11:51] <fredrin> this bugreport says that i need to install linux-backports-moduels to get my sound working
[11:51] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: rendition isn't running atm; it's just sitting in the box
[11:51] <fredrin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/131133/comments/166
[11:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131133 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy]  no sound on Dell Latitude D630/D830/Inspiron 1300/Precision M4300/Vostro 1500/1700/Apple Aluminium iMac/Acer TM6292 pci id 8086:284b" [Medium,In progress]
[11:51] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: xorg.conf
[11:51] <Evanlec> weee im on gutsy 64
[11:51] <Evanlec> i am so happeeeee
[11:52] <TreMobyl> the problem seems to be that modprobe and friends cannot find the module, and I'm trying to figure out why
[11:52] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: im wondering what dbus is hanging on if i had to guess network-manager but not sure on that
[11:52] <fredrin> anyone?
[11:52] <RoboticTao> I just upgraded to gusty and now my lightscribe drive is recognized but it continually reads from it and it will not stay open when I open it. Any ideas? Oh, I don't have a disk in it either.
[11:52] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: given that the installation detected both my wired and wireless connections
[11:52] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: but ifconfig eth0 doesn'
[11:52] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: give me a minute for this :)
[11:53] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: doesn't give me an IP you might be right
[11:53] <channel200> AncientRelic: Is this your laptop? what type of wifi?
[11:53] <kbrooks> hi
[11:53] <jc-denton> gnomefreak: i did..
[11:53] <AncientRelic> channel200: Broadcom 4311
[11:53] <jc-denton> but wait
[11:53] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: it hung for me this afternoon but only for a few minutes
[11:53] <AncientRelic> channel200: and that's on BOTH laptops
[11:53] <whta> how can i get back the cursors from feisty? this black one isn't doing it for me
[11:54] <TreMobyl> anybody?
[11:54] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I'll reboot it again and let it sit for 5-10
[11:54] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: fortunately my PowerBook is around for backup
[11:54] <gnomefreak> i will have a test for you when you get back hopfully
[11:54] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: you're not going to believe it
[11:54] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: I rebooted again
[11:54] <gnomefreak> and it worked?
[11:54] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: and it came up with gdm
[11:55] <gnomefreak> good thought so
[11:55] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: and the nvidia logo
[11:55] <gnomefreak> it was n-m
[11:55] <TreMobyl> anybody still interested in the problem?
[11:55] <jc-denton> waaaahh
[11:55] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: is this related to acpi at all?
[11:55] <jc-denton> i freak out
[11:55] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: that is something i am waiting for the maintainer on
[11:55] <jc-denton> it really seems to ignore the xorg.conf
[11:55] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: doubt it
[11:55] <jc-denton> how can i turn off this behavior
[11:55] <wastedfluid> Anyone familiar with laptop volume keys, khotkeys, and possibly kmix?  having a volume issue on a laptop running gutsy.
[11:55] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: your still in failsafe than
[11:55] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: well its updating now
[11:56] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: fingers crossed atm
[11:56] <jc-denton> yes
[11:56] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok when you get a chance reboot a few more times
[11:56] <jc-denton> how can i get rid of that
[11:56] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: you got it
[11:56] <kbrooks> um in on the rc
[11:56] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: then I update my other laptop
[11:56] <kbrooks> as in, i updated to it from beta
[11:57] <channel200> gnomefreak: I've got a strange display problem here with my Radeon card - resolution is set to 1600 x 1200, I get a desktop window of 1024 x 768 in one corner of the monitor, but the mouse works over the entire 1600 x 1200. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: file a bug on that one, the problem is you installed them from ati, it could be the drivers are buggy or if it built modules they dont match what bulletproofX likes
[11:57] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: are you coming back, or moving on?
[11:57] <TreMobyl> crdlb: still there?
[11:57] <jc-denton> humm
[11:57] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: give me a minute i have 3 people im helping atm
[11:57] <bastid_raZor> having dual monitors, i want to have the gnome toolbars on one monitor. currently they span both monitors. what might i need to change in xorg.conf to fix this?
[11:58] <jc-denton> i file a bug because the cant include the newest driver even in the beta
[11:58] <jc-denton> how are people supposed to switch to linux if such basic stuff does not even works
[11:59] <savvas> jc-denton: because it's not tested
[11:59] <gnomefreak> jc-denton: please complain elsewhere, file bugs and they will tell you why we cant have latest ati drivers in ubuntu
[11:59] <gnomefreak> hell i can because freeze was months ago
[11:59] <gnomefreak> for upstream
[11:59] <savvas> jc-denton: the bleeding edge is at debian.org :)
[11:59] <savvas> look for debian unstable
[11:59] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok you just need to reboot 3-4 times
[11:59] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: you still looking for modules?
[12:00] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: when I'm done updating I will
[12:00] <DanaG> !bug 121833
[12:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when between discrete levels, both from hotkeys and from dim-on-idle." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833
[12:00] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: ok
[12:00] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: I have nvidia-glx installed, but apparently the system doesn't know where to find it
[12:00] <DanaG> That's my major sticking point.
[12:00] <DanaG> It's like getting a slap in the face due to being idle.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: youve installed nvidia drivers from envy or nvidia.com?
[12:00] <DanaG> BLINK!BLINK!
[12:00] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: I've installed nvidia-glx from ubuntu
[12:00] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: ty sir, my new Linux-inspired laptop thanks you as well :)
[12:00] <gnomefreak> AncientRelic: np
[12:01] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: a present for you: http://pastebin.com/d214e0d79
[12:01] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: on that system if upgraded did you ever go outside our repos to get nvidia drivers
[12:01] <alex_ajt> has anyone been able to get a kde4 session in the rc yet?
[12:01] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: that is strace -f
[12:01] <gnomefreak> alex_ajt: yes but there is nothing there for most part
[12:01] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: not to my knowledge
[12:01] <bb-1> Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.
[12:01] <bb-1> Without the GNOME settings manager running, some preferences may not take effect. This could indicate a problem with Bonobo, or a non-GNOME (e.g. KDE) settings manager may already be active and conflicting with the GNOME settings manager.
[12:01] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: that is strace -f modprobe nvidia
[12:01] <jc-denton> lol savvas
[12:01] <spasticteapot> For some reason, laptop_mode is not running on my laptop.
[12:02] <jc-denton> yes but i guess it would work even less with feisty
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> Heya everyone. I tried, just earlier today, getting Ubuntu 7.10 RC running, and I had 2 problems. First try, was with an ATI X1600, and it was painfully sloooow, even with the latest official AMD ATI drivers. Next I tried with an older card, the nVidia 9200, and with nvidia-glx-new, it was pretty decently fast, but text consoles stopped working after X loaded. I tried nVidia's official driver, and it didn't get any better...
[12:02] <wastedfluid> I'm adding a new shortcut key for my laptop, but can anyone help me with the syntax for dcop kmix to increase / decrease volume?
[12:02] <jc-denton> so i could start it with the fglrx
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> Is this a problem just with 7.10, or would I experience the same trouble in 7.04 as well?
[12:02] <jc-denton> by stopping gdm and startx
[12:02] <alex_ajt> im having trouble getting the session to show up in gdm - I believe i have installed the correct packages - is there any additional tinkering needed?
[12:02] <AncientRelic> Psi-Jack: nVidia doesn't HAVE a 9200
[12:02] <jc-denton> but screen was black
[12:02] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: do you have l-r-m for the kernel you are booted to installed?
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> Err, Nvidia 6200 Sorry. ;)
[12:03] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: I don't know; how do I check
[12:03] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: I've only learned about the existance of lrm today
[12:03] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: do you still have the console output from when you installed nvidia-glx?
[12:04] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: just figured out what you meant (I thought you meant lrm-video)
[12:04] <spasticteapot> Is anyone here able to get laptop_mode to work?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> no but this looks weird
[12:05] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: Linux version 2.6.22-14-generic (buildd@vernadsky)
[12:05] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: ii  linux-restrict <IP_ADDRESS>-14.8
[12:05] <gnomefreak> k
[12:05] <gnomefreak> im about to be disconnected i just heard from freenode :(
[12:05] <PirateHead> Can anybody here help me with a compiz config issue?
[12:05] <PirateHead> Sometimes Compiz changes when I use the GUI to configure it, but sometimes Compiz (and the GUI) refuses to reflect my changes.
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> Anyone with any ideas? I I like my ATI X1600, but I know even now, the drivers are going to be perfect, but getting only 2.5-4 fps in things like SecondLife was just bleh.
[12:05] <spasticteapot> Laptop mode disabled because /var/run/laptop-mode-enabled is missing.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: if compiz is on turn it off
[12:06] <AncientRelic> unrelated stupid question, how the heck do I turn tapping off of my trackpad?
[12:06] <jmg> should i run i810 or intel for my i910 with compiz?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: please try to install them again. sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx and use restricted-manager to install them
[12:06] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: compiz? ;)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> jmg: both work
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: your on gutsy?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: yes compiz
[12:06] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: I was, earlier, yes.
[12:07] <jmg> gnomefreak: which is better? i notice defcon is extremely slow
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: the issue you are having is on what system?
[12:07] <savvas> Psi-Jack:  from the menu system > preferences > appearance > visual effects
[12:07] <gnomefreak> jmg: honestly never used either in ubuntu
[12:07] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: This one. I'm in Windows at the moment, again. Since it was painfully too slow to use.
[12:07] <savvas> too slow?
[12:08] <savvas> Psi-Jack: did you by any chance add a usb device?
[12:08] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: I did, but in restricted manager it claimed to be installed
[12:08] <TreMobyl> just a sec
[12:08] <Psi-Jack> Yes. Even, quite literally, konsole was refreshing VERY slow.
[12:08] <Psi-Jack> savvas: Nope.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: ummmmmm ok well we cant really help too much if you are not using ubuntu (we give you commands you give us output) you know
[12:08] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: gonna reboot and then re-enable and then reboot
[12:08] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: I generally know Linux. I run it for servers all the time. LOL
[12:08] <gnomefreak> TreMobyl: if im not here i will be back soon
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: sorry i dont have applications on everyone and what they know ;)
[12:09] <TreMobyl> gnomefreak: right
[12:09] <Psi-Jack> I just don't use Linux for my desktop systems, yet, but I'm wanting to. ;)
[12:09] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: It's cool. ;)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> savvas: how would you feel about taking all the graphics card issues tonight :)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:09] <savvas> AncientRelic: laptop? there are quite some bugs for lappies' trackpads and touchpads, try bugs.ubuntu.com and search for a bug
[12:09] <gnomefreak> brbr smoke and think if im running to store or not
[12:10] <Psi-Jack> gnomefreak: Is compiz on by default?
[12:10] <savvas> gnomefreak: negative, I have to go lie down, I stayed up all night yesterday :P
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack:   yes and no you neeed to check yours
[12:10] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm... Yes, and no? LOL
[12:10] <Psi-Jack> heh
[12:10] <gnomefreak> savvas: its all good i might not be here long either i took pain meds a bit ago and its kicking in
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Psi-Jack: intels for most part nvidia if you used restricted-manager some ati's same way some cards cant use it at all like intel 065
[12:11] <gnomefreak> oops 965
[12:11] <LEGO_Technic> hi guys
[12:11] <LEGO_Technic> I need help
[12:11] <LEGO_Technic> with upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy
[12:11] <chris__> is there an oxygen icon package for kde 3 in gutsy?
[12:11] <LEGO_Technic> how can I do it safely?
[12:12] <kbrooks> LEGO_Technic, use the command we gave in #ubuntu
[12:12] <bastid_raZor> LEGO_Technic: gksu "update-manager -c -d"
[12:12] <LEGO_Technic> no update-manager here
[12:12] <kbrooks> LEGO_Technic, ... as above
[12:12] <bastid_raZor> LEGO_Technic: type that in a terminal
[12:12] <LEGO_Technic> as I said I installed my Ubuntu in expert expert mode
[12:12] <AncientRelic> gnomefreak: 4 reboots and its still fine :)
[12:12] <kbrooks> LEGO_Technic, oh, um, kubuntu, well i suggest you ask #kubuntu
[12:12] <LEGO_Technic> darn
[12:13] <LEGO_Technic> I need to jump from channel to channel