[00:00] <histo> wplug_terryg: which command are you getting that error?
[00:02] <wplug_terryg> histo: I try to run the command dbxxx_load xxx being the version currently installed under maverick 4.8 however I cannot find a package call libdb4.8-util which would be consistent with the howtos instructions
[00:03] <histo> wplug_terryg: apt-cache search libdb4
[00:03] <karma4ya> hello everyone
[00:03] <Bjartensen> So is Ubuntu available? =P
[00:03] <Bjartensen> sry 11.10**
[00:03] <histo> !releases
[00:03] <Bjartensen> hmm
[00:04] <jsphillips86> anybody know an easy way to install Ubuntu on a Acer iconia tab?
[00:04] <histo> !party | Bjartensen
[00:04] <wplug_terryg> histo: Yes I did try that and I do show a libdb4.8 however no command db4xx_load it is not found
[00:04] <histo> jsphillips86: http://iconiatabforums.com/iconiatabforums/index.php?topic=168.0
[00:05] <histo> wplug_terryg: I would search the documents at help.ubuntu.com for more updated instructions that post is 4 years old
[00:05] <wplug_terryg> Yeah good idea I'll try that stay right here I'll be back :)
[00:06] <karma4ya> I have a question I upgraded blender and the new version wouldnt load but now I need to know how to remove the svn and go back to the old blender is that possible?
[00:06] <BaseBallBoy> Okay so, I pressed the mouse lock button on my laptop to disable it, I reclick it to enable it. The trackpad will no longer work. Even after restarting. (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) (Acer 7535)
[00:07] <histo> karma4ya: delete the files
[00:07] <BaseBallBoy> But it does work at the loginscreen, but not after I log in
[00:07] <histo> karma4ya: then install the version from the repos
[00:07] <speeedy> whats this room all about
[00:07] <histo> !topic | speeedy
[00:08] <karma4ya> so there is no way to get rid of the Svn and go back
[00:09] <crash1hd> OK I dropped to alt ctrl 1 logged in and then inserted a cd and I get the error ata8 failed command identity packet device ata bus error
[00:10] <jsphillips86>  anybody know an easy way to install Ubuntu on a Acer iconia tab a500?
[00:11] <wplug_terryg> histo: Well there has been some changes.  Will have to research.  thanks for your assistance.
[00:11] <crash1hd> Is there any log I can look at that can tell me why my ubuntu machine locks up when I put a cd in?
[00:13] <recon69_lap> karma4ya: there are many ways :) , you may even already have both blenders installed
[00:14] <karma4ya> well 2.59 wouldnt load after doing upgrade but blender people told me try to run from a file off the desktop and that works perfect
[00:14] <karma4ya> but it wont let me run the 2.49 that way it gives me a lib error
[00:15] <karma4ya> i ideally would like to remove the blender svn and just go back to the blender that was in the ubuntu softwre center but its not there any more
[00:17] <mindsystem> karma4ya: would you be able to run a make uninstall? i know some makefiles have that built in...
[00:18] <BaseBallBoy> Okay so, I pressed the mouse lock button on my laptop to disable it, I reclick it to enable it. The trackpad will no longer work. Even after restarting. (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS) (Acer 7535)
[00:18] <karma4ya> hmm
[00:19] <Iron_> Hey guys, is it all set for the launch of Ubuntu 11.10 tomorrow?
[00:19] <Iron_> I can't see any news oon the website >.<
[00:20] <g0rs> Iron_: are they releasing an iso tomorrow?
[00:20] <OerHeks> you will know when
[00:20] <Ebron> is there a way to reverse less?
[00:20] <Ebron> I want rless for logfiles ^^
[00:20] <arand> Iron_: It will be announced when it is released, and #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel for discussing, or possible #ubuntu-release-party
[00:20] <Pici> Ebron: tac filename | less
[00:20] <beta0x64> Ebron, what is meant by reverse less?
[00:20] <qin> Iron_: /join #ubuntu-release-party
[00:21] <Iron_> cool
[00:21] <Iron_> going there
[00:21] <Iron_> thanks
[00:21] <Ebron> thxt Pici :)
[00:21] <Ebron> beta0x64: the command less, only that it starts at the end of the file and goes backwards
[00:21] <Pici> Ebron: tac is cat backwards :)
[00:22] <beta0x64> Pici, I never knew about tac. Wow. Thanks
[00:22] <histo> wplug_terryg: there is also howtoforge. They have some howto's for the perfect server setup etc...
[00:22] <wplug_terryg> histo
[00:23] <histo> Ebron: tac will cat backwards
[00:23] <wplug_terryg> histo: Thanks I'll check that out as well.  I'm still looking through the ubuntu forums right now.
[00:23] <histo> Ebron: so tac somefile | less would reverse the file and pipe the output to less
[00:23] <histo> wplug_terryg: let me get you a link to the documentation
[00:24] <histo> wplug_terryg: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[00:24] <Stryk3r> woah
[00:24] <histo> Stryk3r: woah what?
[00:24] <Stryk3r> Lot of people, lol.
[00:25] <Stryk3r> I'm new to IRC chats, Zac was telling me about them and I'm pretty addicted to this now.
[00:25] <wplug_terryg> Yes thanks I have looked at that link.  I guess what I thought was cool was using virtual users from that apparently obsolete howto.
[00:26] <Stryk3r> So, I have some ubuntu related questions for anyone to answer
[00:27] <beta0x64> Stryk3r, you should just ask. if someone knows, they will answer.
[00:27] <wplug_terryg> histo: I only want to give a windows user the ability to transfer a bunch of m4v files to my computer they vary in sizes of 10's of MB each.
[00:27] <Stryk3r> WINDOWS SUCKS BUTTHOLE
[00:27] <Stryk3r> But, anyway.
[00:27] <Stryk3r> For some reason, my hard drive is like, eating itself.
[00:28] <beta0x64> Stryk3r, one ish: windows exists and isn't going away for a while. so we gotta live with it ;)
[00:28] <wplug_terryg> Yeah but it is what corp world is using and well...
[00:28] <Stryk3r> I went from windows vista to ubuntu 11.4 netbook remix edition
[00:28] <Stryk3r> and now I wonder why I ever used windows.
[00:29] <wplug_terryg> I noticed that the link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd any data there has been removed.
[00:29] <wplug_terryg> histo: I would really like to use virtual users under vsftpd if it is still possible?
[00:30] <Stryk3r> I'd make a comment to you, wplug, but I have no clue what that is, aha
[00:30] <wplug_terryg> histo: and allow a Windows user to login and upload mpeg 4 files
[00:30] <johnjohn101> will ubuntu 11.04 client run on a bulldozer machine?  will i have to compile a special kernel for an 8 core?
[00:30] <Stryk3r> windows can upload mpeg 4...cant it?
[00:31] <Pici> Stryk3r: This channel is for Ubuntu support, if you don't have a question or are not supporting you are free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic or await the release in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:31] <Pici> johnjohn101: It should run just fine.
[00:31] <wplug_terryg> histo: he is a colleague from a Win**** class I took recently all lecture material I lost in a raid crash
[00:31] <yagoo> g0rs, are hte realeas an iso tomorrow? ouin.. SHUTUP ;-)..
[00:32] <yagoo> g0rs, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade :)
[00:33] <alexove> Hello. i have a problem with an openvpn server
[00:34] <Chotaz> Is 11-10 out yet?
[00:34] <alexove> can anyone give me a hand?
[00:35] <deebee_> alexove: probably better off asking in #openvpn
[00:35] <deebee_> unless it's something ubuntu specific relating to openvpn
[00:35] <dextery> !list
[00:36] <ej_> \j #awholenewworld
[00:36] <JoseP> 11.10 isn't out yet, right?
[00:36] <alexove> i don't know if the problem is related with ubuntu
[00:37] <recon69_lap> points JoseP to #ubuntu-release-party
[00:37] <alexove> and i don't know how to know it
[00:37] <yagoo> !vpn
[00:37] <yagoo> ^^
[00:37] <JoseP> Thanks
[00:38] <deebee_> alexove: chances are it isn't ubuntu related, try the openvpn channel and see what they say
[00:39] <mydogsnameisrudy> how  would you know he never asked a ?
[00:39] <deebee_> mydogsnameisrudy: hence the word 'chances'
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> indeed
[00:45] <hunter_> hey
[00:46] <flummy_> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2Ccancer
[00:46] <hunter_> chanserv: hey do you use wobbly windows?
[00:47] <JoseP> ChanServ is a service
[00:47] <JoseP> you need compiz for wobbly windows
[00:48] <hunter_> josep: i know that silly
[00:48] <JoseP> ok lol
[00:48] <JoseP> just making sure
[00:49] <hunter_> josep: ok so how do you get the burning feature on compiz that burns windows when you close them
[00:49] <hunter_> ?
[00:49] <JoseP> I haven't done that one but it's there lol
[00:49] <JoseP> have you been able to use the fire?
[00:50] <hunter_> i have not found it yet
[00:52] <hunter_> josep: you mean like when you write on the desktop?
[00:52] <JoseP> yea
[00:52] <cwillu> hunter_, it's in compiz-plugins-extras or something like that
[00:52] <alexi> ok, i just fixed my internet on T-Mobile with "sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1506"
[00:52] <cwillu> as well, you might need to install the compiz configurator thingie
[00:53] <alexi> how do i make it automatic so i dont have to do it every time i start up?
[00:53] <recon69_lap> alexi :-D
[00:53] <hunter_> cwillu: ok i will try  brb
[00:53] <alexi> its too basic  a question for the msg boards
[00:53] <alexi> is there a startup config i can edit with that command?
[00:54] <alexi> keep in mind i only have to use a computer once every 10 years or so... sorry if i am slow
[00:54] <BaseBallBoy> I clicked the tracpad disable button and repressed it again and now my tracpad won't work even after reboot. It will work in login screen but not after loading my session
[00:54] <BaseBallBoy> Is this an Ubuntu problem or Gnome problem?
[00:54] <KM0201> alexi: once every 10yrs? why do you even own one.
[00:56] <alexi> nowdays if you dont have a computer on the internet, all the girls leave!
[00:57] <sileni> hey everyone
[00:57] <wplug_terryg> histo: I finally found the package its called : db4.8-util I dunno how I missed it b4 but I got is now!
[00:57] <sileni> when is the next release of ubuntu coming out ?
[00:57] <keldrum> sooo excited! just a couple hours left!
[00:57] <sileni> for what?
[00:58] <cwillu> alexi, http://jdbausch.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html is basically what you need
[00:58] <cwillu> alexi, just substitute your numbers and such
[00:58] <Chotaz> Is it possible to upgrade to 11.10 already?
[00:59] <sileni> i heard the next release of ubuntu is coming out very soon.. but i don't see anything on the website
[00:59] <sileni> Chotaz: is that the next release of ubuntu?
[00:59] <JoseP> It's not out yet
[00:59] <sileni> Chotaz: when is it supposed to come out ?
[01:00] <Chotaz> sileni, 13th
[01:00] <sileni> sorry the title says tommorow , i should read better
[01:00] <sileni> Chotaz: 13th where? US, Africa,India?
[01:00] <Chotaz> sileni,  no idea
[01:01] <hunter_> chotaz: whats up
[01:02] <recon69_lap> alexi:  in  /etc/rc.local maybe
[01:02] <Chotaz> hunter_, how can I upgrade to 11.10?
[01:02] <systemonkey> question: if system load is at 13 and cpu utilization is only around 10%, what is the usual cause?
[01:02] <RobotBot> it's not out yet Chotaz
[01:03] <hunter_> chotaz: do you know how to open the update manager?
[01:03] <Chotaz> hunter_, i have it open right now
[01:03] <hunter_> chotaz: what is you curent version?
[01:04] <Chotaz> hunter_, natty
[01:04] <Chotaz> 11.04
[01:05] <recon69_lap> probably get busy in here after the update :)
[01:05] <hunter_> chotaz: thats the only new one out 11.10 has not yet been released
[01:05] <DangerOnTheRangr> How can I get the number of packages a PPA hosts?
[01:05] <Chotaz> hunter_, thanks :)
[01:06] <hunter_> chotaz:no prob i can only run 10.10
[01:08] <jeangray> Hi, I have a question, has anyone enconouterd the hdmi problem on ubuntu 10.10?
[01:08] <jeangray> i can't seem to connect my external monitor on my laptop via hdmi
[01:08] <MACscr> is there really not any type of rdp server that comes with ubuntu?
[01:08] <MACscr> everything ive seen seems to be a mess of a setup
[01:09] <DangerOnTheRangr> MACscr: Have you looked at VNC?
[01:09] <RichTUK> jeangray: in the monitor preferences can you see see the ext monitor
[01:09] <mydogsnameisrudy> jeangray,  it might be a funtion of your laptop
[01:09] <flummy_> MACscr: or tightvnc?
[01:09] <MACscr> yep, but there are like a dozen different implementations of it and i just want something that pretty much works out of the box
[01:10] <flummy_> MACscr: traditionally, we used the X11 windowing system since the late 80s for remote graphical clients
[01:10] <sileni> MACscr: vnc basically works out of the box
[01:10] <jeangray> mydogsnameisrudy: a function on my laptop?
[01:10] <flummy_> i think bill gates was just about to write basic at that time
[01:10] <recon69_lap> jeangray: have you being restarting x after you connect hdmi , think thats necessary
[01:10] <Shatters> hey, you guys think that if I went out and got a random old set of hardware originally running like windows 95 that it could support linux 11?
[01:10] <sileni> Shatters: linux 11?
[01:10] <jeangray> recon69_lap: i just tried that, it didnt owrk
[01:10] <DangerOnTheRangr> Shatters: Probably so, but your mileage may vary
[01:10] <hunter_> anyone still have 10.10?
[01:10] <flummy_> Shatters: kernel 0.98c came out 1993
[01:11] <mydogsnameisrudy> Fn + F8 maybe
[01:11] <RichTUK> Shatters: whats the hardware? ram and cpu etc?
[01:11] <jeangray> mydogsnameisrudy: I tried that aswell, doesn't seem to be working, also its not showing up in my monitor prefernces
[01:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> k
[01:12] <jeangray> does it have to do anything with my drivers?
[01:12] <RichTUK> on 256 ram and a low cpu you could run OS's like Mint LXDE no problem shatters
[01:12] <flummy_> i used to run an X server and a mozilla browser on 4 megabytes of ram :)
[01:13] <xangua> RichTUK: or lubuntu, since this is the ubuntu channel ;)
[01:13] <recon69_lap> jeangray, you sure the cable is sound, connections can be dodgy sometimes
[01:13] <midlothian> So when's the release?
[01:13] <RichTUK> xangua: well i said "an OS like...) so didnt see the problem, but yeah
[01:13] <xangua> midlothian: can't read the topic¿
[01:13] <flummy_> midlothian: |<--------------------->| that far away
[01:13] <jeangray> recon69_lap: all im trying to do is extend my laptop onto an external monitor, the hdmi DOES show up in the sound prefernces but not in the video preferences
[01:13] <Shatters> Intel Pentium 233MMX, 64 Meg Memory
[01:13] <hunter_> how much ram do yall have
[01:14] <hunter_> ?
[01:14] <DangerOnTheRangr> 4GB
[01:14] <Shatters> 2.0 GB hard drive
[01:14] <hunter_> i have 18gb
[01:14] <Chotaz> hunter_, why?
[01:14] <jeangray> do you think i need to install the ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver?
[01:14] <flummy_> Shatters: you would need a linux distribution from the later 90s for that :P
[01:14] <hunter_> chotaz: why what?
[01:14] <xangua> jeangray: if you have an ati/amd card yes¿
[01:15] <xangua> !lubuntu | flummy_ Shatters
[01:15] <midlothian> ah.
[01:15] <jeangray> xangua: i have installed it before but the thing is when i reboot, it just hangs
[01:15] <flummy_> xangua: you seem to be a bit nervous
[01:15] <jeangray> xangua: thats the only reason why i haven't installed it again
[01:16] <hunter_> chotaz:?
[01:16] <Shatters> so in terms of how many years back in time with regards to hardware that could support ubuntu 11, maybe 10 years back or to 2000?
[01:16] <flummy_> Shatters: how much ram did we have in 2000
[01:17] <flummy_> 256 MB?
[01:17] <DangerOnTheRangr> Shatters: For something that old, I'd use Xubuntu
[01:17] <flummy_> or more like 128MB?
[01:17] <recon69_lap> jeangray: trying to remember how i set mine up, but just drawing a blank it was so long ago
[01:17] <RichTUK> 128
[01:17] <mydogsnameisrudy> DSL
[01:17] <flummy_> Shatters: libraries and binaries have grown to 100 times their 2000s size today
[01:17] <RichTUK> oh flummy_ i think he said 64,b
[01:18] <jeangray> recon69_lap: thanks for your help, did you happen to install the proprietary driver for your graphics card inorder for it to work?
[01:18] <RichTUK> mb*
[01:18] <aeon-ltd> there are probably arm variants that run on less than 128mb
[01:18] <flummy_> RichTUK: he was asking about 2000
[01:18] <flummy_> i don't think 64 MiB was typical in 2000
[01:18] <flummy_> maybe for a router
[01:18] <mendota> so........what does it mean if a boot disc won't start installation or start live mode?
[01:19] <flummy_> mendota: it means you will die a violent premature death
[01:19] <RichTUK> flummy_: he said 64mb memory when he said the spec, thats all im saying
[01:19] <mendota> flummy_ i worried as much, lol
[01:19] <flummy_> RichTUK: i did read that, but he was asking about 2000 later on
[01:19] <hegemon> Xubuntu seems to need a bit more ram than Lubuntu, 192min (512 recommended) vs 128min
[01:19] <recon69_lap> jeangray: i got the proprietary drivers installed
[01:19] <mendota> flummy_ i think i've got a bad ide/sata controller? idk. this little refurbish can see hdd in BIOS, but can't boot them or install to them...
[01:19] <MACscr> flummy_: and DangerOnTheRangr: All the vnc4server or tightvncserver tutorials seem to have bash scripts for config or startup on boot. Seems ridiculous that this type of configuration is needed for a basic install
[01:20] <flummy_> mendota: most unusual
[01:20] <jeangray> see the thing is, when i install the proprietary drivers for my laptop, restarting would just give me a boot hang and i wouldnt know what to do after
[01:20] <jeangray> does anyone else encounter that problem?
[01:20] <DangerOnTheRangr> MACscr: Does it matter that they have BASH scripts? It makes them more configurable, and you rarely need to modify them anyway
[01:20] <jeangray> and im talking about the proprietary drivers for the graphics card
[01:21] <mendota> jeangray: what part of the boot sequence does it hang?
[01:21] <flummy_> MACscr: i usually just start x11vnc in a running x-session and connect to it from another system by starting xtightvncviewer, no scripting involved
[01:21] <MACscr> DangerOnTheRangr: i dont care if they are bash, but the install instructions seem to ask me to create files in place X or copy to Y, etc
[01:21] <flummy_> MACscr: maybe you should improve on your google skills
[01:21] <jeangray> mendota: basically after i choose which kernal to run, it just stays black
[01:21] <MACscr> flummy_: im a google ninja, so i know thats not the problem
[01:21] <mendota> jeangray: yeah...that's not good
[01:22] <mendota> none of the kernal options work, jeangray?
[01:22] <DangerOnTheRangr> MACscr: That's not that hard to do, and it's one-time only
[01:22] <flummy_> MACscr: well then just type x11vnc on one end and xtightvncviewer hostname on the other end :)
[01:22] <jeangray> mondota: from the last time i remember, not even the recovery loaded
[01:22] <mendota> jeangray: and this started after installing new drivers?
[01:22] <cypha> what's ubuntu-minimal?
[01:22] <jeangray> mendota: yes
[01:22] <cypha> i tried removing vim-tiny, and it's telling me ubuntu-minimal requires it
[01:23] <mendota> jeangray: and, i have to ask, you're sure you got software from a trusted source?
[01:23] <flummy_> cypha: we are now all trying very hard not to inquire WHY you tried to remove vim-tiny
[01:23] <jeangray> mendota: im downloaiding it right off the additional drivers from ubuntu
[01:23] <jeangray> mendota: i hope thats trusted
[01:23] <cypha> flummy_, cuz I was installing full vim instead
[01:23] <mendota> jeangray: well that's weird then. ubuntu repos should be pretty safe
[01:23] <flummy_> cypha: in which order?
[01:24] <cypha> removing first
[01:24] <flummy_> cypha: wrong order
[01:24] <jeangray> well im going to try installing the one from the amd graphics website
[01:24] <jeangray> ill see what happens
[01:24] <mendota> jeangray: but i've also heard of boot-sector viruses, especially today in my own troubleshooting
[01:24] <Shatters> Hmm, is there a good resource for downloading lots and lots of drivers to install to persistent usb to make it more adaptable to different (esp older) systems?
[01:24] <jeangray> mendota: boot-sector virsues?
[01:24] <mendota> jeangray: yeah, proprietary is okay to try too.
[01:24] <flummy_> cypha: but you probably noticed that by now :P
[01:24] <mendota> jeangray: i've got a laptop that won't boot HDD, and that was one cause tossed around in old forum posts
[01:24] <cypha> ah ok
[01:25] <cypha> flummy_, so what's ubuntu-minimal?
[01:25] <flummy_> cypha: a good question :)
[01:25] <hunter_> anyone know how to set up a graphics card over a motherboard port in the start menu??
[01:25] <flummy_> cypha: sounds like the minimal set of packages required for a valid setup
[01:25] <cypha> ah ok
[01:25] <flummy_> ii  ubuntu-minimal 1.220          Minimal core of Ubuntu
[01:25] <kogie> bare installation
[01:25] <jeangray> mendota: oh okay, yeahwell ill come back and hopefully everything will be working, thank you for your help
[01:25] <flummy_> cypha: you can't have NO editor on a unix system, can you :)
[01:26] <cypha> flummy_, even after installing vim, I can't uninstall vim-tiny
[01:26] <mendota> jeangray: no problem. good luck and everything
[01:26] <flummy_> cypha: mhm
[01:26] <Shatters> there's one machine I would like to try a usb on that has xp installed on it, but it seems to barely run. system settings are very restrictive, so i cant view a lot of tech specs. I just know the hd is 40 gb. ram probably 1gb
[01:26] <urlin2u> cypha, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:27] <Shatters> but it won't usb boot ubuntu 10.
[01:27] <hunter_> ??
[01:27] <enchilado> cypha: I don't actually have a clue what I'm talking about, but an idea: could it be because vim-tiny is set as your default editor?
[01:27] <cypha> so will ubuntu 11.10 show up at midnight?
[01:27] <flummy_> $ sudo aptitude remove vim-tiny
[01:27] <flummy_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: ubuntu-minimal: Depends: vim-tiny but it is not going to be installed.
[01:28] <cypha> ypu
[01:28] <cypha> yup
[01:28] <urlin2u> cypha, it is available right now
[01:28] <flummy_> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
[01:28] <flummy_> Remove the following packages:
[01:28] <flummy_> 1)     ubuntu-minimal
[01:28] <cypha> that's what I got
[01:28] <cypha> not sure where to set default editor
[01:28] <FloodBot1> cypha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:28] <flummy_> Removing vim-tiny ...
[01:28] <cypha> I got a floodbot message and you didn't
[01:28] <flummy_> hehe
[01:28] <cypha> wtf is this world coming to
[01:28] <enchilado> eh
[01:28] <enchilado> how was that flooding?
[01:28] <Shatters> lol
[01:28] <flummy_> i don't usually help people
[01:29] <Shatters> gotta try this tails out now. laters
[01:29] <flummy_> so i'm not familiar with antiflood regulations :)
[01:29] <DangerOnTheRangr> FloodBot has its wires crossed :)
[01:29] <MACscr> flummy_: Didnt seem to work for me out of the box. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mc3cMa28
[01:29] <keldrum> urlin2u - where is it available now?
[01:29] <urlin2u> 3 or posts in a row triggers the bot, don't use enter for punctuation is the basic message
[01:29] <urlin2u> keldrum, the daily cd
[01:30] <keldrum> but still only beta :-)
[01:30] <MACscr> heck, the system already has a user password, so why the heck need a separate one for vnc?
[01:30] <flummy_> MACscr: did you start x11vnc as the user of the running X11 session, AND from a terminal within the running X11 session?
[01:30] <urlin2u> keldrum, I doubt much different then the final. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:31] <keldrum> urlin2u - your right of course...it's just different in my head!
[01:31] <root_runner> hi there
[01:31] <urlin2u> keldrum, no changes as of now unless there is a big flub so it is basically the same
[01:31] <flummy_> MACscr: x11vnc wants to be usable as a tool even if you don't know the password of the user on a long-running session
[01:31] <urlin2u> hehe
[01:31] <Jetrii> How would I go about creating a bootable flash drive of the Ubuntu ISO from a different Linux distro? I tried dd but it couldn't boot off the drive
[01:32] <grayley> @Jetrii try downloading unetbootin, works pretty well for me
[01:32] <urlin2u> Jetrii, use unetbootin
[01:32] <Jetrii> unetbootin is broken, it doesn't show any USB devices
[01:32] <Jetrii> At least not on this machine.
[01:32] <MACscr> flummy_: i dont even know what x11 is and im running started it from a ssh connection. I dont have any gui access on this remote system right now, though gnome-desktop is installed and working
[01:32] <grayley> @jetrii, are you running it as superuser?
[01:32] <Jetrii> grayley: yes
[01:32] <ortuna> jetrii: look into grub-install after, dd
[01:33] <MACscr> flummy_: remote desktop access just seems basic that im just surprised ubuntu hasnt created something that was more easy to work with from a home user standpoint
[01:33] <urlin2u> Jetrii, try multisystem.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:33] <flummy_> MACscr: i don't know what seems to you, but i'm using remote desktops on unix since the late 80s :)
[01:34] <Jetrii> ortuna: installing grub onto the flash drive? I'll give that a shot after multisystem. urlin2u, thanks, I'll check it out
[01:34] <flummy_> (without any problems)
[01:34] <MACscr> flummy_: i didnt say it wasnt possible to get it to work, i just said its not available by default or works with a simple single click install like it should
[01:34] <flummy_> MACscr: maybe you need a ipad2
[01:34] <MACscr> hell, apache even works out of the box
[01:35] <flummy_> i apologize for my last message :P
[01:36] <flummy_> MACscr: what about applications>internet>remote desktop viewer
[01:36] <MACscr> the whole point of ubuntu is to have a more usable OS out of the box or at least easier to use than other *nix distros, right?
[01:36] <MACscr> flummy_: viewer?
[01:36] <flummy_> MACscr: and system>preferences>remote desktop for the other end
[01:36] <MACscr> i need the server to work, vnc clients are easy to use
[01:36] <flummy_> i never used those, though
[01:36] <LytesOfSpartra> How do I log in as root in terminal?
[01:36] <LytesOfSpartra> I'm new to Ubuntu
[01:37] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra: su
[01:37] <cwillu> sudo -s
[01:37] <flummy_> LytesOfSpartra: i think ubuntu wants to keep the root account locked,
[01:37] <cwillu> su is just silly
[01:37] <flummy_> for reasons not holding scientific review
[01:37] <DangerOnTheRangr> nocilis: I don't think su really works in Ubuntu
[01:37] <LytesOfSpartra> I did that
[01:37] <nocilis> DangerOnTheRangr what?
[01:37] <Roasted> When I open nautilus, it defaults to my main monitor. Once I double click on a folder, it defaults to the other monitor. Is there a way to keep it from switching?
[01:37] <LytesOfSpartra> and it says authentication failuter
[01:37] <xangua> !root | LytesOfSpartra
[01:37] <flummy_> LytesOfSpartra: but you can set a root password. i will probably get a permban for this advice, tough.
[01:37] <cwillu> LytesOfSpartra, and then you type in your user password (not the root password)
[01:37] <padhu> LytesOfSpartra: what about sudo su -
[01:37] <DangerOnTheRangr> nocilis: Try it and see what happens :)
[01:37] <MACscr> flummy_: well i actually am running mac on the other end, but that shouldnt really matter as vnc clients are available for osx as well
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> yeah
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> that works
[01:38] <nocilis> i was able to get it to work once, by changing the root password
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> sudo su works
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> su is not a command
[01:38] <FloodBot1> LytesOfSpartra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> ahh yes sudo su is the correct way
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> They must have changed it
[01:38] <flummy_> MACscr: may i ask again - did you start x11vnc from whitin a x11 session, as the user owning that x11 session?
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> Before it was su
[01:38] <dr_willis> sudo su is redundant. and not really 'correct'  :) sudo -s or sudo -i ....
[01:38] <BluebirdShao> LytesOfSpartra: padhu give you the answer.
[01:38] <nocilis> i liked su..
[01:38] <flummy_> sudo and su have a long history of security problems
[01:38] <ahhughes> how can I determine what's added an additional ~4mins to my boot time?
[01:38] <LytesOfSpartra> no..
[01:39] <MACscr> flummy_: as i already mentioned, im only connected right now through ssh and i dont reall know anything about x11
[01:39] <LytesOfSpartra> sudo su is the correct way
[01:39] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  it may 'work' but its not 'correct'
[01:39] <DangerOnTheRangr> Why not sudo bash?
[01:39] <flummy_> MACscr: you would need to add an MIT-magic-cookie to the xauthority file of the running server
[01:39] <MonkeyDust> what's the command line to suspend a pc, other than s2disk or s2ram?
[01:39] <LytesOfSpartra> su wont work
[01:39] <LytesOfSpartra> it says authentication failure
[01:39] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[01:39] <LytesOfSpartra> so sudo su works
[01:39] <flummy_> MACscr: but thats probably a disabled feature nowadays
[01:39] <DangerOnTheRangr> LytesOfSpartra: That's what we've been trying to tell you :)
[01:40] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  su dosent work on ubuntu by default to go to root....
[01:40] <LytesOfSpartra> oh
[01:40] <dr_willis> sudo -i   is the normal proper way to get a root shell.
[01:40] <flummy_> dr_willis: says who?
[01:40] <dr_willis> flummy_:  see above url for info.
[01:40] <MACscr> flummy_: see, there are multiple places that have to be configured just to get this to work
[01:41] <flummy_> dr_willis: ok, i don't really care about ubuntu policy :)
[01:41] <nocilis> flummy_ the man page for sudo
[01:41] <dr_willis> flummy_:  it can also 'not work like it should' when you do sudo su. or sudo bash, or other ways
[01:41] <flummy_> MACscr: you want to add remote access control to an already running system - REMOTELY
[01:41] <dr_willis> it depends on your setup/enviroment.
[01:41] <flummy_> MACscr: don't complain if you find that hard :)
[01:42] <flummy_> dr_willis: sudo is a security risk.
[01:42] <flummy_> given its poor coding.
[01:42] <dr_willis> flummy_:  cant say ive ever really seen that argument..
[01:42] <nocilis> flummy_ i don't see how that could be true for the average desktop user
[01:42] <flummy_> sudo vulnerability
[01:42] <nocilis> flummy_ perhaps for a server admin
[01:42] <flummy_> About 687,000 results (0.18 seconds)
[01:42] <nocilis> flummy_ but then they should know better anyway.
[01:43] <dr_willis> vs kernel vunularibities.. or flash security risks.. i doubt if its much of a risk
[01:43] <HannibalW> Hey!
[01:43] <flummy_> well, it's my job to judge unix security risks :)
[01:43] <dr_willis> vs the 50,000 login attempts i saw on this box the other day trying to login as root... i will stick with using sudo.
[01:43] <BigOldCar> Hello, people.
[01:43] <HannibalW> here's the milk, boys! who has cookies? :-)
[01:44] <HannibalW> Hey, I need some help over here...
[01:44] <dr_willis> HannibalW:  and the problem is?
[01:44] <BluebirdShao> HannibalW: just ask, not ask to ask.
[01:44] <HannibalW> You 'll see. I just want to download Ubuntu 11.10!!!
[01:45] <Jetrii> ortuna, going to give grub on the flash drive a try. multisystem didn't work
[01:45] <xangua> HannibalW: read the topic
[01:45] <flummy_> dr_willis: you might consider denyhosts and friends
[01:45] <HannibalW> but... where do I download it from?
[01:45] <Guest37475> is it fairly easy to migrate a freshly but operational LAMP environment (apache2) on ubuntu 11.04 into a chroot?
[01:45] <padhu> HannibalW: Wait for few hours, release will be within 27 hours.....
[01:45] <dr_willis> flummy_:  allready got them installed.. but after i just moved the port no more attempts :) at least none yet.
[01:45] <BigOldCar> Can someone help me with a video resolution issue in 10.04?  My PC has a mach64 card that worked in Hardy with some tweaking to xorg.conf, but that's no longer present and as installed I can only get 800x600.  I need 1280x720!
[01:45] <LytesOfSpartra> hey guys
[01:46] <LytesOfSpartra> so sudo su is the correct way to log in as root interminal?
[01:46] <LytesOfSpartra> in terminal*
[01:46] <nocilis> HannibalW Ubuntu.com says the latest is 11.04, doesn't look like it's out yet
[01:46] <padhu> HannibalW: urgent, go on with release candidate
[01:46] <flummy_> LytesOfSpartra: in unix, there are many ways.
[01:46] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra or sudo -i
[01:46] <LytesOfSpartra> I tried su
[01:46] <ubuntuserveruser> sudo -i or sudo -s
[01:46] <HannibalW> That's the bloomin problem! I just DONT want to wait!
[01:46] <LytesOfSpartra> but it does not work anymore for Ubuntu
[01:46] <LytesOfSpartra> IT says that authentication failed
[01:47] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  clarify what does not work any more...
[01:47] <HannibalW> doesn't it happen to be like Firefox's ftp's?
[01:47] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra Ubuntu is a bit different than other distros
[01:47] <ubuntuserveruser> is it fairly easy to migrate a freshly but operational LAMP environment (apache2) on ubuntu 11.04 into a chroot?
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> well I type in to terminal
[01:47] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  you do NOT use just 'su' normally
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> oh
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> well on Arch Linux
[01:47] <HannibalW> where you can download previous hours before the release?
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> I used to type su
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> and it worked
[01:47] <FloodBot1> LytesOfSpartra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <flummy_> LytesOfSpartra: but you can easily adjust it as you like
[01:47] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  this is not arch linux.
[01:47] <DangerOnTheRangr> HannibalW: You could download the minimal CD, but then you'll have to install a lot of extra packages once you install Ubuntu
[01:47] <LytesOfSpartra> I know that. I'm using Ubunt 64 bit now
[01:47] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra take a look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:47] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  so you should use 'sudo -i' to get a root sshell when needed. or just use 'sudo' as needed
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> ok
[01:48] <Jetrii> When using dd to copy an Ubuntu iso to a flash drive, should I be copying it directly to the base (/dev/sde) or a partition (/dev/sde1)?
[01:48] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  su can change to other users. but not to root on a default ubuntu setup/
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> when Itype in su
[01:48] <flummy_> the information in that article is very wrong
[01:48] <ubuntuserveruser> I have a brand new forum setup in LAMP (apache2) ubuntu 11.04 I need to chroot jail the setup
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> oh
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> ok
[01:48] <Jockelhansi> hi
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> So Su will not make you root
[01:48] <dr_willis> Jetrii:  what version are you copyin to usb?
[01:48] <flummy_> he unix super user is not named Root, he is named root.
[01:48] <flummy_> +t
[01:48] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra not on Ubuntu, no
[01:48] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  not on a default ubuntu install..
[01:48] <urlin2u> Jetrii, partiton
[01:48] <LytesOfSpartra> ohh allrite that clears it up
[01:49] <Jetrii> dr_willis: 11.10
[01:49] <Jockelhansi> im using pcoslinux and want to change the frame frequenz up to 100 hz. only 60 hz is available. can anybody help`?
[01:49] <LytesOfSpartra> so if i want to install a package from terminal I type sudo su and then sudo apt-get?
[01:49] <padhu> LytesOfSpartra: what is your eequirement? why are you asking about root user?
[01:49] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra just sudo apt-get
[01:49] <dr_willis> Jetrii:  you dd to /dev/sdb or whatever then. not sdb1
[01:49] <padhu> requirement*
[01:49] <Jetrii> urlin2u: I was afraid you'd say that... I already tried that without any luck... Grub is already installed to it
[01:49] <LytesOfSpartra> do I need to login as rroot nicilis?
[01:49] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra sudo executes a single command as root, sudo su gives you a shell to enter multiple commands
[01:49] <LytesOfSpartra> root*
[01:49] <dr_willis> Jetrii:  the other tools at pendrivelinux and so forth should work also. or setup grub2 to boot the ISO file.
[01:49] <HannibalW> oh, dear lord [satan]!!! I I want to download the 11.10 final release, not the minimal, or the RC... WHat I mean is: is there any FTP or Torrent where I can get the final Ubuntu 11.10, hours before it appears in the Ubuntu site? I mean, those Iso files must be already uploaded somewhere, right???
[01:50] <urlin2u> Jetrii, sde you could install grub to anyway.
[01:50] <dr_willis> LytesOfSpartra:  i rarely need to actually have a root 'shell' i just use sudo as needed.
[01:50] <flummy_> LytesOfSpartra: after proper consideration, you could also set a root password and become root with su -
[01:50] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | HannibalW
[01:50] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra: read the webpage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:50] <kydan> hey guys ive got what I suspect is a permissions issue with Wordpress. I am getting following error The uploaded file could not be moved to /srv/www/chelsie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads. I am running wordpress on a LAMP stack and currently it is not public facing. In an effort to figure out whats up I have chmod -R 777 the /srv/www dir to try to figure out what the heck is going on but even that does not solve my issue. Any ideas?
[01:50] <urlin2u> Jetrii, what is the OS your doing all this from?
[01:50] <hdon> hi guys :) has anyone tried installing MSWindows on a machine with GNU/Linux installed on the only HDD? will MSWindows try to fight over the MBR or my partition table? any tips would be helpful thanks :) links to articles are good too
[01:51] <ubuntuserveruser> does anyone have any experience chrooting a LAMP setup already in operation?
[01:51] <Jetrii> Mint Linux Debian... Was giving it a shot but it's been pretty buggy on my machine
[01:51] <nocilis> hdon i did that, just make sure you install ubuntu second
[01:51] <Jockelhansi> ?nobody answering questions about pcoslinux?;) Would be realy nice.
[01:51] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | hdon
[01:51] <hdon> nocilis, ah ok. that sucks :(
[01:51] <nocilis> hdon windows fights everything that is already there
[01:51] <kydan> hdon: it will, install win first then linux if at all ossible
[01:51] <dr_willis> Jockelhansi:  they most likely have their own support channels. Not here.
[01:51] <hdon> thanks everyone :)
[01:51] <padhu> LytesOfSpartra: documents.ubuntu.com have an great documents. Just read it on your spare time. It is good place to start learning
[01:51] <nocilis> hdon sure
[01:51] <urlin2u> Jetrii, must be if unetbootin is not working or the multisystem loader both are rock dolid
[01:51] <urlin2u> solid*
[01:52] <Jockelhansi> dr-willis i asked there but only 20 people in it. nobody talking about anything so i guess nobody realy following the chat there
[01:52] <Jetrii> urlin2u:  multisystem fails with an error (claiming it does't have root privileges even when it does and unetbootin is just dead... Ubuntu never gave me this much trouble :D
[01:53] <LytesOfSpartra> http://i51.tinypic.com/2ijhisg.png
[01:53] <LytesOfSpartra> this is what I mean
[01:53] <dr_willis> Jockelhansi:   sounds like one reason to not use that disrto. but check the homepage of that disrto. could be they are on soime other irc server.
[01:53] <flummy_> whoops
[01:53] <flummy_> i thought i was on ubuntu-release-party
[01:53] <kogie> kydan: try to change max_upload on php.ini and see what happen
[01:53] <HannibalW> Hell... support here sucks. I know it's voluntary (thanks 4 that, guise!) but I rather pay support for Windows (and a Windows License too) only to solve my problems in 5 minutes. Busy people will never use Linux. That's a truth. And it sucks...
[01:53] <Jockelhansi> no its the right one. thats what i did
[01:53] <LytesOfSpartra> It says invalid operation wine?
[01:53] <LytesOfSpartra> why is that?
[01:53] <xangua> HannibalW: you can pay support to canonical
[01:53] <urlin2u> Jetrii, look in media in the mint for an extra bootloader that s what happens with multisystem
[01:53] <urlin2u> remove it
[01:54] <recon69_lap>   kydan: have you looked for reasons why file could not be moved/created ,dir permissions perhaps.
[01:54] <dr_willis> HannibalW:  ppeople seem to thhink 'support' is 'hand hold me so i dont need to read basic docs'  .. but whatever..
[01:54] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra you need to use "sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:54] <kydan> kogie: currently set to 128mb
[01:54] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra you forgot to tell it you wanted wine installed
[01:54] <kogie> kydan: sudo chmod -R /dir
[01:54] <BigOldCar> With 10.04, can I cause X to generate an xorg.conf file that it will then obey?
[01:54] <kogie> 777
[01:54] <kydan> recon69_lap: I have, to test permissions I just set everything to an underprivilaged user at chmod to 777 then tried touch, cp, mv, rm and it all worked just fine
[01:54] <Jetrii> urlin2u: Turns out that multisystem fails when launched from the terminal but runs fine when opened from the Gnome menu... Very weird
[01:54] <BigOldCar> With 10.04, can I cause X to generate an xorg.conf file that it will then obey?  So that I can then change resolutions?  Stuck at 800x600
[01:55] <Jetrii> Despite being the same command
[01:55] <hdon> one more question: can i partition my HDD in the MSWindows installer?
[01:55] <nocilis> hdon I don't think so
[01:55] <kydan> hdon: i would suggest doing it with gparted, but I believe you can.
[01:55] <dr_willis> hdon:  you can. but it cant make ext2/3/4 so its  beest to do that in a linux os. or linux live cd.
[01:55] <HannibalW> dr_willis: For me, support is: I'm not a bloody nerd and I dont want to be one. I have business to run, and I dont have time: solve my problem!
[01:55] <urlin2u> Jetrii, cool the only other thing I have found with multisystem is it wants grub to format the thumb, if you have any more problems.
[01:55] <hdon> i prefer fdisk
[01:55] <hdon> i've installed MSWindows in the past but don't remember being asked to partition
[01:56] <dr_willis> HannibalW:  and i dont even recalls seeing you stateing a problem.. but i have to go to my real job now.
[01:56] <LytesOfSpartra> ok
[01:56] <nocilis> hdon depends on the version maybe?
[01:56] <urlin2u> not grub gpartred Jetrii
[01:56] <LytesOfSpartra> so what do I type?
[01:56] <hdon> nocilis, probably
[01:56] <kydan> hdon: it does, right off the bat, but its super simple
[01:56] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra "sudo apt-get install wine" without quotes
[01:56] <Jetrii> urlin2u: Thanks for all the help. Should be fine now (hopefully)
[01:56] <dr_willis> bbl.
[01:56] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra why aren't using the Ubuntu Software Manager?
[01:56] <LytesOfSpartra> ok
[01:56] <LytesOfSpartra> works
[01:56] <LytesOfSpartra> thanks
[01:57] <hdon> kydan, awesome thanks :)
[01:57] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra noproblem
[01:57] <qin> HannibalW: http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ Goodbye and goodluck.
[01:57] <scottj> anyone know a game that runs on linux, doesn't require much thinking, and is a cycle of short period of action followed by a longer period of waiting? (like a counter-strike)
[01:57] <flummy_> 03:55 < HannibalW> dr_willis: For me, support is: I'm not a bloody nerd and I  dont want to be one. I have business to run, and I dont have  time: solve my problem!
[01:57] <nocilis> scottj do you want an fps or an rts or what?
[01:58] <xangua> scottj: teeworlds ;) 2d shootings
[01:58] <flummy_> Hawkwind: well, maybe you find another business owner who is willing to take your money for that
[01:58] <nocilis> scottj I would recommend 20,000 Light Years Into Space
[01:58] <scottj> nocilis: anything the round based nature with plenty of waiting is important
[01:58] <flummy_> Hawkwind: otherwise you have the free software warranty: if it breaks, you may keep both parts
[01:58] <qin> scottj: It is simple, Counter-Strike (or native urban Terror)
[01:58] <nocilis> scottj not an fps, more rts
[01:58] <scottj> qin: well other than cs :)
[01:59] <kogie> kydan: may i ask if you already check if /upload exist?
[01:59] <nocilis> scottj otherwise perhaps Tremulous? Waiting isn't mandatory, but you can choose to wait however long between respawns
[01:59] <joe__> :)
[01:59] <flummy_> he doesn't want to keep both parts
[01:59] <LytesOfSpartra> Why is my resolution still big
[01:59] <flummy_> i hope that was not too rude
[01:59] <crash1hd> Hey all, It seems that if I move the cd/dvd rom device to another sata port then the issue I am having of it locking up goes away (anyone in here that really understands hardware can explasin to me why that would be?) the mobo is ASUS F1A75-V Pro and it has 6Sata ports and 1 7pin sata port thats seperate I would have thought that the seperate one was for the cd rom type devices but thats the one that locks up)
[02:00] <LytesOfSpartra> I installed my graphics card
[02:00] <crash1hd> yet if I plugin a hdd to that port it works just fine
[02:00] <LytesOfSpartra> but for some reason its still big
[02:00] <LytesOfSpartra> why is that?
[02:00] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra define "big"
[02:00] <carri0n> Anyone know what time 11.10 is released?
[02:00] <LytesOfSpartra> The icons are a bit big
[02:00] <Pici> carri0n: Oneiric is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 13th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[02:01] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra on the desktop?
[02:01] <LytesOfSpartra> http://i56.tinypic.com/2wgsnds.png
[02:01] <LytesOfSpartra> this looks big right?
[02:01] <kydan> kogie: I doesnt atm, but it should be able to make, it. I have also tried making it and then trying it, the error I posted first is what you get when it does exist. the error when it doesnt says it cant make it. I think I may have found it though, I am running this as a vhost and the phpinfo that I just made for the site shows that max upload for that vhost is 2mb
[02:01] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra umm no
[02:01] <LytesOfSpartra> oh
[02:01] <kydan> kogie: in the master php.ini its like 128, and I know that this is common solution to the issue, I just thought I had ruled it out.
[02:01] <LytesOfSpartra> is that the standard resolution?
[02:02] <nocilis> LytesOfSpartra how big is your monitor?
[02:02] <LytesOfSpartra> uhh
[02:02] <LytesOfSpartra> 19 inch
[02:02] <scottj> nocilis: have you seen other fps where you can set the respawn time?
[02:02] <LytesOfSpartra> is that ok?
[02:03] <joe__> I have Ubuntu 10.04 running and I cannot run or install a program called jgrasp (used to create/debug/compile java files). I have the java jdk installed.
[02:04] <hunter_> hey
[02:04] <Stanley00> !info jgrasp
[02:04] <scottj> xannen: teeworld looks cool, it has a good wait between respawning though?
[02:04] <flummy_> joe__: try to be more technical
[02:05] <flummy_> in your description
[02:05] <sdz> Is there an archive of this channel somewhere (just for the last month or so)?
[02:05] <xangua> !logs | sdz
[02:06] <smango> so is Oneiric appearing at midnight or some random time tomorrow afternoon?
[02:06] <joe__> ok, when I run jgrasp it says No such file or directory however I have executable permissions
[02:06] <flummy_> sdz: i don't consent to publication of my contributions, and assert my copyright according to austrian copyright and data protection laws
[02:06] <joe__> I even tried source jgrasp
[02:06] <MonkeyDust> sdz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[02:06] <joe__> it said cannot execute binary file
[02:07] <Drecondius> anyone here that can possibly help me with a problem with apt
[02:07] <Drecondius> well the gui handler rather
[02:07] <flummy_> joe__: the file is not recognized as a program for your platform
[02:08] <flummy_> joe__: try file binaryfilename
[02:08] <flummy_> joe__: or view it in an editor
[02:08] <joe__> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[02:08] <joe__> looks like giberish in nano
[02:10] <joe__> I even tried java jgrasp (because I know it is a java file) and it said it found no main method
[02:10] <MonkeyDust>
[02:10] <zaapiel> when is 11.10 going to be released
[02:10] <zaapiel> ?
[02:10] <flummy_> joe__: java bytecode binaries have to be fed into a java interpreter
[02:11] <flummy_> joe__: like in other, inferior operating systems
[02:11] <joe__> ah, sudo apt-get install which interpereter?
[02:11] <flummy_> joe__: man javac
[02:11] <flummy_> joe__: man java sorry
[02:11] <urlin2u> zaapiel, to much for you to google
[02:11] <flummy_> NAME java - the Java application launcher
[02:12] <gerzel> Anyone got a good bash scripting refrence?  I want to write a simple script to switch out two configuration folders.  I use ~.folder for the folder with the primary configuration and p.folder for the secondary.  I then simply rename the folder removing the p or ~ depending on which configuration I want to use.
[02:12] <joe__>  openjdk-6-jdk
[02:12] <joe__> I think I found it.
[02:12] <flummy_> joe__: openjdk is not runnung flawlessly for many applications, the sun/oracle jdk works better
[02:13] <joe__> Oh ok. I will try to find that in the software center
[02:13] <zaapiel> urlin2u, yes
[02:14] <flummy_> joe__: probably sun-java6-bin sub-java6-fonts sun-java6-jdk and so on
[02:14] <urlin2u> zaapiel, read the basic stuff on using the IRC it asks you to investigate before asking.
[02:15] <urlin2u> zaapiel, run /topic
[02:15] <zaapiel> urlin2u, ignored
[02:15] <zaapiel> when is 11.10 going to be released?
[02:15] <flummy_> joe__: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/306583
[02:15] <xangua> zaapiel: read the topic as urlin2u said
[02:15] <urlin2u> the answer is there dunny
[02:15] <flummy_> joe__: the importand line is in the yellow box
[02:15] <flummy_> important
[02:16] <SIFTU> gerzel: what do you mean by reference
[02:16] <flummy_> another entrepreneur giving up on leenucks
[02:16] <flummy_> he really doesn't want to keep both parts
[02:17] <joe__> thank you flummy. you are awesome
[02:17] <gerzel> SIFTU; Well a good guide.  Need to figure out how to check for folders existing.
[02:18] <SIFTU> gerzel: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[02:18] <deebee_> joe__: to install it using apt-get, make sure you have uncommented the line to enable the partner repository in /etc/apt/sources.list and then do an apt-get update
[02:21] <Arcas> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers in 11.10 and anytime I try to kill Xorg it is immediately restarted. How can I kill Xorg and make sure it doesn't restart until I want it to?
[02:23] <alexove> Hello again
[02:24] <SIFTU> gerzel: more specifically you want the following page http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals
[02:24] <th0r> Arcas: you kill the dispaly manager. For me (xfce/debian) it is 'service gdm stop', but I THINK 11.10 is using lightdm...but not sure
[02:24] <alexove> i had not luck in the openvpn channel
[02:24] <Arcas> right, but the Nvidia install package needs Xorg killed to install
[02:24] <alexove> :(
[02:25] <Arcas> not just the display manager, I tried that both ways even /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:25] <Arcas> no dice
[02:25] <coraxx> so veryone ...today is the 13th october ...does n e body know at what time today the oneiric-release becomes available for download ?
[02:25] <coraxx> *everyone
[02:25] <xangua> coraxx: when it's ready
[02:25] <xangua> !ubuntu+1
[02:26] <th0r> Arcas: are you sure it is gdm? Like i said, I think ubuntu is switching to lightdm
[02:26] <Arcas> I'll try that
[02:26] <th0r> Arcas: I would have hoped one of the ubuntu gurus would have stepped in by now with clarification
[02:26] <coraxx> xangua: no need to be a freshmouth
[02:27] <deebee_> alexove: they're definitely the people to help you with openvpn configuration
[02:28] <evemzee> has anyone managed to get ubuntu installed on a partition on the latest 2011 MacBook Pro 13 inches
[02:28] <evemzee> ?
[02:28] <th0r> Archtivity: check /etc/X11.default-display-manager
[02:29] <randomusr> hello, where can I find firmware for my devices? Looking for the location of wl firmware.
[02:29] <zromayn> hi all: is it just me, but in ubuntu 11.04 the /etc/resolv.conf file doesn't keep the settings across reboots.
[02:29] <hegemon> zromayn: That file is generated by network manager
[02:30] <sgashepp_> Hello?
[02:30] <alexove> i think is a iptables problem or something like
[02:30] <SetiAmon> anyone here experienced with dual monitors?
[02:30] <th0r> randomusr: /usr/local/lib/firmware?
[02:31] <zykotick9> !anyone | SetiAmon
[02:31] <hegemon> zromayn: You either need to set it in the network manager app or /etc/network/interfaces
[02:32] <randomusr> th0r, no such file or directory?
[02:33] <zromayn> hegemon: that's another issue i have with ubuntu desktop 11.04, if i attempt modifying the /etc/network/interfaces file, i lose network connectivity. I only get to configure the network by the gnome "edit connections..."
[02:33] <th0r> randomusr: I checked, that is where the firmware for my wifi card resides. You might find it in /usr/lib/firmware also.
[02:36] <sgashepp_> Hello. My new laptop has an led screen that auto dim on battery in windows. Is there a way to get that to work In Ubuntu?
[02:36] <joe040288> hello im having some trouble with a fresh ubuntu 10.04 install
[02:37] <joe040288> i was trying to force a resolution with the nvida driver but i seem to have totally messed up my xserver setting and i cant even get the linux repair boot to work now
[02:37] <joe040288> is there a way to reconfigure xserver from the live cd?
[02:38] <optidude> hey guys, can i ask a ?
[02:39] <optidude> was wondering how to shut off the log in screen?
[02:39] <delimax> permanently?
[02:39] <joe040288> go to mainmenu system login screen setting
[02:40] <joe040288> then login as "" automaticly
[02:40] <randomusr> #join aircrack-ng
[02:40] <sasy360> hey when is the 11.10 release date? 13th?
[02:40] <SIFTU> zromayn: are you sure network manager uses /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:41] <optidude> yes permanently
[02:42] <th0r> SIFTU: I think it is an either/or....if you program the interfaces file then nm will not attempt to configure the interface.
[02:42] <h00k> sasy360: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <zromayn> siftu: i'm not saying that because i simply don't know. all I'm saying is that i cannot sudo nano or sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces file, for it will take my network connection down.
[02:42] <optidude> i am the only user, and new to ubuntu, and it times out when i watch videos and i have to log in all the time
[02:42] <SIFTU> th0r: thats what I always thought but someone in here convinced me otherwise
[02:43] <SIFTU> th0r: I'm back to believing network manager uses /etc/network/interfaces now :)
[02:43] <optidude> brb...checking on ubuntu upgrade to 11.04 :-)
[02:43] <th0r> SIFTU: interfaces will bring up a nic on bootup, whereas nm waits until you log in
[02:44] <SIFTU> th0r: yeah I use it on servers, but network and network-manager are 2 diff things
[02:45] <SIFTU> th0r: but I do believe it uses that, as I know it uses the hooks in /etc/network/if-up.d
[02:45] <sgashepp_> Please, could I be directed to where to find help?
[02:47] <th0r> sgashepp_: put your question here, on one line, and if someone knows they will answer
[02:47] <ryannathans> 11.10 out yet?
[02:47] <hunter_> ryannathan: nope
[02:47] <urlin2u> ryannathans, /topic gives the answer
[02:47] <ryannathans> how about now?
[02:47] <ryannathans> hm, it's due out today
[02:48] <sgashepp_> I did, My new laptop has an led screen that auto dim on battery in windows. Is there a way to get that to work In Ubuntu?
[02:48] <sgashepp_> I haven't found anything online, it must be a common problem.
[02:48] <crash1hd> hey all my 11.04 ubuntu wont reboot it will shutdown no problem but when I run reboot I see ubuntu and 2 red dots and 3 white dots?
[02:50] <CantWinn> Hello everyone
[02:50] <CantWinn> Just wondering if anyone has any XP with ATI and Ubuntu?
[02:51] <blackmoth> hi can anyone recommend a good power management tool for xubuntu?
[02:52] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth it already has
[02:53] <blackmoth> but i cant adjust like the cpu power usage?
[02:54] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth your on to overclocking?
[02:54] <xangua> !scaling | blackmoth
[02:54] <xangua> !cpufreq
[02:54] <xangua> agg what was¿!
[02:55] <blackmoth> nope...am trying to save as much battery during battery mode
[02:56] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth i dont know one
[02:56] <sgashepp_> this is similar to my problem, I dont understand why ubuntu eats so much power.
[02:56] <blackmoth> in ubuntu theres a tool that you can set the cpu power usage to in demand or high performance
[02:56] <ljsoftnet> sgashepp_ you can disable compiz to save power
[02:57] <blackmoth> but here in xubuntu theres none...also while using my laptop in windows 7 in battery mode my battery lifespan is like 1 hour 30mins
[02:57] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth a didn't know that im in xubuntu too
[02:57] <sgashepp_> considerably? because it dies almost 3 times as fast as win would.. :/
[02:58] <blackmoth> but in xubuntu its only up to 1 hour which is weird because xubuntu uses less resources
[02:58] <cypha> do we get 11.10 at midnight?
[02:58] <cypha> should I line up outside the bestbuy?
[02:58] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth try do disable compositing
[02:58] <blackmoth> how?
[02:59] <ryannathans> cypha: I keep askin
[02:59] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth Settings > Settings Manager
[02:59] <kevinh90> Hello, I have an iBook and I want to put linux on it
[02:59] <g33kyboii> whens 11.10 out?
[02:59] <kevinh90> is ubuntu ppc any good?
[02:59] <urlin2u> run /topic guys
[02:59] <g33kyboii> urlin2u, is it out now?
[03:00] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth Window Manager Tweaks > Compositing, tick Enable Compositing
[03:00] <xangua> g33kyboii: does the topic says it¿¿
[03:00] <xangua> omg
[03:00] <g33kyboii> how about now?
[03:00] <ryannathans> is 11.10 out at midnight? or some time during today?
[03:00] <xangua> ryannathans: g33kyboii please stop
[03:00] <urlin2u> g33kyboii, /topic will give youy=the answer
[03:00] <urlin2u> you*
[03:00] <kevinh90> ryannathans: 12.11.10 lol
[03:00] <blackmoth> disable?
[03:00] <g33kyboii> [11:00] Insufficient arguments for command.
[03:00] <ryannathans> It's 13th in Australia, nooblets ;D
[03:00] <g33kyboii> doesnt work
[03:00] <g33kyboii> so tell me
[03:00] <g33kyboii> whens it out?
[03:00] <FloodBot1> g33kyboii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <RockMeAmadeus> Good evening my dears
[03:01] <Captainkrtek> g33kyboii: soon, last minute touches, im currently editing the release announcment
[03:01] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth i mean Compositor > uncheck "Enable display Compositing"
[03:01] <RockMeAmadeus> I just sounded like an old lady
[03:01] <g33kyboii> Ok.
[03:01] <ryannathans> Captainkrtek: that's mad
[03:01] <g33kyboii> Is it out now?
[03:01] <urlin2u> google the release schedule, and don't over think the date or time.
[03:01] <ryannathans> Captainkrtek: finally a decent reply
[03:01] <hunter_> hey what theme can u use to use desktop rain?
[03:01] <hunter_> i have compiz already
[03:02] <Captainkrtek> within the next 24 hours, if all goes to plan..
[03:02] <g33kyboii> urlin2u: whats google?
[03:02] <g33kyboii> i use bing
[03:02] <blackmoth> thanks ljsoftnet
[03:02] <ljsoftnet> blackmoth no problem
[03:02] <coolfire> help me please
[03:02] <ryannathans> !ask | coolfire
[03:02] <blackmoth> but i wish theres a better power management tool in xubuntu
[03:03] <g33kyboii> 11.10 out yet?
[03:03] <Captainkrtek> coolfire: what do you need help with
[03:03] <Captainkrtek> and g33kyboii please stop spamming
[03:03] <g33kyboii> umad
[03:03] <g33kyboii> ye umad
[03:03] <ryannathans> !umad
[03:03] <ryannathans> aww
[03:03] <abhijain> whats the exact date for release of ubuntu 11.10
[03:03] <ryannathans> abhijain: 13/10/11
[03:04] <ejv> would you like that in star date?
[03:04] <Captainkrtek> abhijain: within the next 24 hours
[03:04] <tensorpudding> is it really tomorrow?
[03:04] <ryannathans> tensorpudding: it's today.
[03:04] <tensorpudding> sorry
[03:04] <tensorpudding> so it's actually going to happen what time?
[03:04] <ryannathans> \o/ gets it before everone
[03:04] <ryannathans> tensorpudding: no one nos
[03:04] <tensorpudding> bah
[03:04] <tensorpudding> well
[03:04] <ryannathans> \o/ lives at start of tomorrow
[03:05] <hunter_> ??
[03:05] <tensorpudding> it's like 0500 UTC, so there's not much of tomorrow left is there
[03:05] <abhijain> ryannathans:  today  is 13/10/11 in India
[03:05] <boxbeatsy> hi, is there an easy way using command line to split a large text file into 5 smaller ones?
[03:05] <ryannathans> abhijain: 13/10/11 is aus
[03:05] <hunter_> is there gonna be an 11 system for older pcs?
[03:05] <ejv> im not going gaga over 11.10, it's not LTS, so it's bound to be a buggy mess :)
[03:05] <hdon> boxbeatsy, how do you want it split?
[03:06] <ryannathans> boxbeatsy: there is is you make a script ;)
[03:06] <boxbeatsy> hdon: sequentially and evenly
[03:06] <Yamauchi> 10:05am on the 13th here in Jakarta, Indonesia
[03:06] <hdon> boxbeatsy, into fifths? are you counting lines or bytes?
[03:06] <tensorpudding> i'm using 11.10 right now, it's not buggy for me
[03:06] <boxbeatsy> ryannathans: ya, i was about to write a python script for it
[03:06] <xGrind> 11.10 for older pcs: Lubuntu
[03:06] <boxbeatsy> hdon: by lines
[03:06] <ryannathans> ejv: that's like what the hooker siad
[03:06] <Singham> !ot
[03:06] <hdon> boxbeatsy, by lines, head -n 50 filename # will produce the first 50 lines of the file
[03:06] <ryannathans> boxbeatsy: \o/ knows python too
[03:06] <abhijain> ryannathans: Can I upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10
[03:06] <hdon> boxbeatsy, head -n 100 filename | tail -n 50 # will produce lines 51-100
[03:06] <tensorpudding> abhijain, not directly no
[03:06] <hdon> boxbeatsy, etc.
[03:07] <ejv> if you wanna break your system, yes
[03:07] <tensorpudding> abhijain, you have to upgrade to 11.04 first
[03:07] <cjs> Where do I get a 32-bit alternate install CD for Ubuntu 11.10?
[03:07] <ryannathans> abhijain: youll have to hop to 11.04 then 11.10
[03:07] <boxbeatsy> hdon: ah ok, got it, thanks
[03:07] <hdon> boxbeatsy, not exactly efficient but we're not talking about a lot of data unless your lines are tens of megabytes :D
[03:07] <sgashepp_> so what are some good ways of saving battery life, other than the brightness thing then pls?
[03:07] <ryannathans> cjs: internet
[03:07] <boxbeatsy> hdon: ya, that'll do, thanks :)
[03:07] <ryannathans> sgashepp_: underclocking
[03:07] <cjs> ryannathans: You're so helpful!
[03:07] <sgashepp_> seriously?
[03:07] <ryannathans> cjs: I try my best ^^
[03:07] <ejv> who's bright idea was it to make unity default...
[03:07] <ryannathans> cjs: check the ubuntu site
[03:08] <ryannathans> unity? Default? NOT on my xubuntu!
[03:08] <cjs> I'm on cdimage/ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-2/, but there's only a 64-bit desktop CD.
[03:08] <tensorpudding> you can use gnome-shell in 11.10
[03:08] <tensorpudding> it's what i do
[03:08] <ryannathans> cjs: wait till it comes out
[03:08] <tensorpudding> i don't have to use unity anymore
[03:09] <RichTUK> isnt it out tomorrow
[03:09] <ChogyDan> how can I create a link on my desktop? Im using chromium
[03:09] <sgashepp_> I was only being serious. battery life is the only reason i leave a partition for win7 :/
[03:09] <cjs> ryannathans: You're not actually being terribly helpful here.....
[03:09] <CantWinn> I have an AMD 4x Phenom II P940 processor with 6GB RAM with ATI Radeon HD5650 running Catalyst 11.9 and Ubuntu 11.04. With the proprietary drivers running this thing is kinda slow. If I run full screen video etc it's always kinda jerky, it's better when I run the "Classic desktop" and becomes way worse when I try to run the unity desktop. If I take off the proprietary drivers the system runs faster but has the occasional glitching effect on graphics. Is the
[03:09] <CantWinn> re some extra settings that I'm not running?
[03:09] <ChogyDan> wow, 11.10 is out tomorrow?  CRAP, now I will be forced to choose between unity and gnome-shell  :(
[03:09] <ryannathans> cjs: 11.10 isn't out yet
[03:09] <Toidi> Is it possible to access my encrypted home (ext4 I belive) from 7?
[03:10] <ryannathans> ChogyDan: there's always xfce
[03:10] <ryannathans> ChogyDan: xubuntu
[03:10] <cjs> ryannathans: I know. I want to help test it.
[03:10] <ChogyDan> ryannathans: does it use networkmanager?
[03:10] <edub0y> How do I change my Gobi 2000 driver from GSM to CDMA>
[03:10] <ryannathans> ChogyDan: pretty sure
[03:10] <cjs> Unless you don't want me to help test it, in which case I'll just install 11.04.
[03:10] <sgashepp_> ugh.
[03:10] <ChogyDan> ryannathans: is so, then good call
[03:10] <Captainkrtek> cjs: http://www.xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing but please move this to #xubuntu
[03:11] <ryannathans> cjs: I'm not sure there's alot you could test without downloading, i don't even know if cds are avilible to beta test
[03:11] <xGrind> http://thisisthecountdown.com/
[03:11] <ryannathans> cjs: it's in final few minutes of touchup now
[03:11] <cjs> Captainkrtek: Thanks!
[03:11] <ChogyDan> [q] how can I create a link with chromium?
[03:11] <Captainkrtek> np
[03:11] <Captainkrtek> im going back to editing the release announcement, ping if needed...
[03:11] <RichTUK> ChogyDan: go to your menu and drag and drop it to the desktop
[03:12] <ChogyDan> RichTUK: doesnt work, that copies the page
[03:12] <edub0y> Anyone know how to change the mobile broadband auth from GSM to CDMA
[03:12] <RichTUK> right clcik on the desktop and create launcher then ChogyDan
[03:12] <cjs> BTW, in case anybody else was curious about the answer, iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker appears to contain lots of recent pre-11.10 ISOs.
[03:13] <happyface> can anyone recommend any good VPS hosts?
[03:13] <coolfire> I have problems to download videos from youtubu ... from the terminal gives me an ERROR: format not available for video
[03:13] <cjs> Oh, oops, crud, that's only test cases. Nevermind.
[03:13] <coolfire> help me please
[03:14] <Captainkrtek> happyface: Linode
[03:14] <ChogyDan> RichTUK: fwiw, I found a way.  Add the link to the bookmarks toolbar, then drag THAT on to the desktop
[03:14] <coolfire> help
[03:14] <Captainkrtek> coolfire: someone will help if they can, until then please refrain from spamming
[03:14] <ChogyDan> coolfire: are you using a program?
[03:15] <teicah> me too
[03:15] <RichTUK> lol sorry ChogyDan i thought you ment a link for chromium not the page, sorry mate, miss read that
[03:15] <happyface> Captainkrtek, ty
[03:15] <Singham> coolfire : Please see my PM
[03:15] <coolfire> youtube-dl
[03:16] <ChogyDan> RichTUK: oh, np, I want an apology from chromium for being a PITA  :)
[03:16] <ChogyDan> coolfire: try a different extension
[03:17] <coolfire> how different extension =
[03:17] <ChogyDan> coolfire: for firefox, you know, right?
[03:17] <Toidi> Is it possible to access my encrypted home (ext4 I belive) from 7?
[03:19] <Captainkrtek> Toidi: it should be by using a samba setup
[03:19] <Captainkrtek> Toidi: try this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/04/share-home-folder-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[03:19] <noobubuntu> coolfire: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1702165
[03:20] <Willis420> sup Captainkrtek?
[03:21] <crash1hd> hey all my 11.04 ubuntu wont reboot it will shutdown no problem but when I run reboot I see ubuntu and 2 red dots and 3 white dots? or the screen fills with text oddly part of it says Broadcast message from root@machine (unknown) at 15:18 last thing it says is Checking for running unattended-upgrades: * Asking all remaining processes to terminate... [OK ]
[03:21] <Captainkrtek> Willis420: hello
[03:22] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: you make any recent changes?
[03:22] <crash1hd> I dont even know where to start with this one troubleshooting wise (other then google) but all I seem to find is about boot
[03:23] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, its a fresh install
[03:23] <crash1hd> all I have done sofar is updates
[03:23] <crash1hd> all updates
[03:23] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: so this has been happening since the initial install
[03:24] <naufragoweb> http://thisisthecountdown.com/ ...... official countdown or no ?
[03:24] <crash1hd> yes
[03:24] <crash1hd> I just dropped to tty1
[03:24] <crash1hd> logged in and ran sudo reboot to see whats going on
[03:24] <Toidi> Captainkrtek, I mean the home partition/encrypted files
[03:24] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: okay, this is an existing bug, let me see if there is a resolution
[03:25] <crash1hd> it seems to get to Checking for unattended-upgrades and there it sits?
[03:25] <crash1hd> Cool
[03:25] <Willis420> Captainkrtek; i'm getting an error compiling omfgb, can you take a look? http://pastebin.com/ABDWKcGn
[03:25] <crash1hd> I need to be able to reboot (its a machine thats in my basement)
[03:25] <Captainkrtek> Willis420: not in this channel
[03:25] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, can you share the bug report page?
[03:26] <crash1hd> url?
[03:26] <Willis420> sorry
[03:26] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: can you paste the output of cat /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown
[03:26] <Captainkrtek> paste to paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link
[03:27] <crash1hd> I will on next reboot it seems to be doing more now
[03:27] <Captainkrtek> k
[03:27] <crash1hd> it said it hung on a bunch of task ... somethings more then 120 seconds
[03:27] <thorn> how can I discourage ubuntu from getting into the swap partition so fast? It does it at 50% of normal RAM usage.
[03:27] <crash1hd> now I see the ubuntu logo and the dots
[03:27] <crash1hd> this is further then I have ever had it go before
[03:28] <Captainkrtek> k
[03:28] <socomm> Anyone on here?
[03:28] <crash1hd> but once rebooted I will do as requested :) I want to see if it will actually reboot as the dots are still doing something (usually it locks up)
[03:28] <thorn> how can I discourage ubuntu from getting into the swap partition so fast? It does it at 50% of normal RAM usage.
[03:29] <Captainkrtek> thorn: please dont paste your question multiple times
[03:29] <MnM> if i upgade from Natty by Update Manager, how much data will i have to download
[03:30] <thorn> Captainkrtek: I probably will, actually. I usually do. I usually wait longer though.
[03:30] <socomm> MnM: alot
[03:30] <sileni> gah when will it come out
[03:30] <lake> When I press "Page Up" in terminal (gnome-terminal), the prompt changes to my previous command. I want my terminal output buffer to scrollback. any help?
[03:30] <crash1hd> ok it has to be doing something lol its still doing the dots :)
[03:30] <somsip> thorn: worth looking at this maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[03:30] <ChogyDan> thorn, how much swap do you have?
[03:31] <sileni> hmm
[03:31] <thorn> 500 MB RAM, 500 MB Swap, give or take a few MB...
[03:31] <Captainkrtek> lake: right click in your terminal window, profiles --> profile preferences --> scrolling tap
[03:31] <Captainkrtek> tab*
[03:31] <ChogyDan> thorn, don't worry about it, you don't have enough ram
[03:31] <Wulf4> Hi
[03:32] <MnM> socomm: alot, how much? 500 MB?
[03:32] <Jetrii> Bah.. 11.10 refuses to install grub on my system... Hell of a way to start things off
[03:32] <ChogyDan> thorn: you need the swap
[03:33] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, ok it seems to have stopped with the dots anyhow but it does sound like the hdd is still doing something should I force the reboot or wait?
[03:33] <thorn> sweet, I'm going to tweak my swappiness, thanks.
[03:33] <lake> Captainkrtek: oh, i forgot to mention, I use "screen" by default. whoops.
[03:33] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: try to drop to a shell after a forced reboot
[03:34] <Captainkrtek> lake: that may not change much, im screened right now through a gnu.org server for irssi and I can scroll with page up and down
[03:34] <lake> Captainkrtek: I am screened in too. and scrollback works find in my irc client...
[03:34] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, ok doing forced reboot now
[03:35] <Captainkrtek> lake, not sure what to say, sorry
[03:36] <lake> Captainkrtek: thanks anyhow
[03:36] <Captainkrtek> lake: no problem
[03:37] <thorn> on the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F it gives instructions to make swappiness change permanent, so I want to move it from 60 to 10, but the directions say to find a line in a file, and it's not there. Should I just paste into the file anyways?
[03:37] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/707139
[03:37] <ChogyDan> thron, is there anyway you can buy more ram?  That will help allot more
[03:38] <cjs> Captainkrtek: Err...why did you tell me to go to #xubuntu? I wanted Gnome....
[03:38] <thorn> little help please? I'm working with a nonprofit and we're short on resources. I've moved all of them to Ubuntu. We only need Windows for printing at this point, actually.
[03:39] <thorn> I haven't managed to get a single printer working yet.
[03:39] <thorn> on the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F it gives instructions to make swappiness change permanent, so I want to move it from 60 to 10, but the directions say to find a line in a file, and it's not there. Should I just paste into the file anyways?
[03:40] <jivjiv> Hi Please give me a aptitude install command for http://pastebin.com/1JHigeak.
[03:40] <Captainkrtek> cjs: you guys were discussing xubuntu testing for a bit if I recall
[03:40] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: k hold on
[03:40] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, thanks :)
[03:41] <thorn> why do some many people assume aptitude works out of the box on Ubuntu? Does it work like that on Mint or Debian?
[03:41] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: luckily i know python ;-) hold on
[03:42] <crash1hd> that does help
[03:42] <crash1hd> I know other languages but not much python
[03:42] <cjs> Captainkrtek: I didn't realize I was. :-)
[03:42] <cjs> Anyway, I found the daily builds, so problem solved.
[03:42] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: replace it with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707140/ but make a backup as well
[03:43] <Captainkrtek> I just added one line
[03:43] <randomusr> which repo do I need to add to locate and install the b43 driver?
[03:44] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, trying now :)
[03:44] <Captainkrtek> kk
[03:46] <thorn> So why were people discouraging me from changing swappiness?
[03:46] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, ok so you just added sys.exit(0) above the if below the sleep
[03:47] <Captainkrtek> yes
[03:47] <thorn> and why would servers prefer a swappiness of 60? And why does desktop ship with a swappiness of 60 when 10 would be more ideal?
[03:47] <DaGeek247> dern client
[03:47] <Captainkrtek> I had a  feeling it's not going to the other exit statement
[03:48] <crash1hd> ok trying it now :)
[03:48] <crash1hd> rebooting that is
[03:48] <ChogyDan> thorn: because you don't have enough ram.  YOu are going to need swap probably anyway
[03:48] <parox> Hi. What time about is the final Ubuntu comming out?
[03:48] <ChogyDan> 36 hours
[03:48] <DaGeek247> if i get the 11.10 beta now, will it be any different from the release tomorrow?
[03:49] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, you where saying that there is a bug report on this? do you know what the url is?
[03:49] <ChogyDan> thorn: with my 2g of ram, Ubuntu would never use swap unless it absolutely had to, and I was running at 60
[03:49] <rww> pangolin: anything?
[03:50] <pangolin> nope
[03:50] <pangolin> but not uncommon
[03:50] <rww> pangolin: indeed :<
[03:50] <ChogyDan> thorn: I ran at swappiness 0 for a while, and that was a nightmare.  10 is at least bareable, but still...  10 is the minimum, you should only set that if you think you will NEVER use swap
[03:51] <ChogyDan> thorn: (fyi, 0 basically disables swap, and was crashing my computer trying to hard to do that)
[03:51] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: it was an older one
[03:51] <Captainkrtek> 2009
[03:51] <Captainkrtek> so not that relative
[03:51] <DaGeek247> ?
[03:52] <DaGeek247> anyone know?
[03:52] <thorn> well Chogy, I'm having performance issues after I start a bit of browsing, and this is my director's computer, and I'd prefer him to have a better experience for a little browsing as opposed to his windows experience. I wasn't trying to recreate the windows experience.
[03:52] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, ok hmm that doesnt seem to be working
[03:52] <crash1hd> still hangs
[03:52] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd: hmm
[03:52] <devils> Who wants a piece of ass?
[03:52] <devils> -93.15394
[03:53] <akston> @dAgEEK247: I suspect you'd be downloading the release candidate, and that there would be a few differences you'd have to download tomorrow.
[03:53] <tensorpudding> !language | devils
[03:53] <crash1hd> gonna try exiting before it does anything to see if it is even that script
[03:53] <DaGeek247> devils, ima buttmunch!
[03:53] <optidude> hey guys...
[03:53] <optidude> what about installing an wna3100 network adapter?
[03:53] <ChogyDan> thorn: go for it, no harm in experimenting
[03:53] <optidude> any easy ?
[03:53] <DaGeek247> thanks akston
[03:53] <randomusr> anyone here using the b43 driver for their broadcom wireless card?
[03:54] <optidude> any easy way
[03:54] <Captainkrtek> randomusr: I am
[03:54] <Captainkrtek> need some help I presume?
[03:54] <randomusr> Captainkrtek, can you tell me how to install it on Maverick?
[03:54] <Captainkrtek> yeah, hold on
[03:54] <randomusr> Thanks
[03:54] <Captainkrtek> randomusr: try: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:55] <randomusr> already did that through synaptic, does that me the driver installed?
[03:55] <StepNjump> hi Guys help please... I pretty much inadvertantly deleted about 22GB worth of stuff on my hard drive
[03:55] <StepNjump> I checked in the trash but the folders are there but empty
[03:55] <DaGeek247> so to avoid all the server traffic, i get 11.10 now and update tomorrow, and its the same result. :D
[03:55] <StepNjump> anything else I could do
[03:55] <Captainkrtek> StepNjump: eek, you can try recovery...
[03:56] <pangolin> !recover
[03:56] <StepNjump> Captainkrtek, how do I do that
[03:56] <Captainkrtek> see that, thanks Pangolin :-)
[03:56] <StepNjump> I think Im on ext3
[03:57] <crash1hd> Captainkrtek, hmm dont think that file is the issue tryed to add the exit right below all the imports before anything else and its stiill hanging I would leave it to see but how long? lol
[03:57] <hapy> do we get 11.10 at midnight?
[03:57] <simpleblue> 26:03:12
[03:57] <simpleblue> nope
[03:57] <randomusr> Captainkrtek, if I've installed the firmware-b43 does that mean the driver is installed?
[03:57] <pangolin> !11.10
[03:57] <simpleblue> over a day aways
[03:57] <Captainkrtek> randomusr: try a reboot and see
[03:57] <randomusr> thanks
[03:57] <Captainkrtek> ~24 hours
[03:58] <simpleblue> http://thisisthecountdown.com/
[03:58] <DaGeek247> hapy no, check the party channel
[03:59] <Captainkrtek> crash1hd, and others, ill be away for a bit, PM me and ill reply quicker, need to edit the release announcment...
[03:59] <somsip> Captainkrtek: if it is on a drive that is in use now, shutdown immediately and only use something like a liveCD to try to recover the data
[04:00] <scottj> I just launched three games with twinview and all of them displayed in a small window in the middle of my two monitors. what's the default way on linux to tell games to use my first monitor, 1920x1200?
[04:00] <somsip> Captainkrtek: oops
[04:00] <somsip> StepNjump:  if it is on a drive that is in use now, shutdown
[04:00] <somsip>                 immediately and only use something like a liveCD to try to
[04:00] <somsip>                 recover the data
[04:00] <Captainkrtek> heh
[04:00] <somsip> erm...
[04:01] <jeroth> !themes
[04:03] <_optidude_> anyone know how to install an wna3100 network adapter in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:03] <_optidude_> trying to connect wirelessly
[04:04] <alibo> Anybody knows at what time and time zone the new version will bereleased?
[04:04] <DaGeek247> !11.10
[04:04] <alibo> DaGeek247: I see, thanks
[04:05] <thorn> !happiness
[04:05] <somsip> ubottu: umad?
[04:06] <thorn> !crazy
[04:06] <pangolin> !msgthebot > thorn
[04:06] <DaGeek247> lol
[04:07] <thorn> !!
[04:07] <jmcantrell> are there any wallpaper changers that work in oneiric?
[04:07] <pangolin> !oneiric
[04:09] <robin0800> jmcantrell: wallch does in the software centre
[04:11] <Wulf4> I installed a computer with "Natty" and got some ugly new desktop environment (is that gnome 3?). How can I set the theme back to gnome2?
[04:11] <pdtpatr1ck> sun-java6-jdk is no longer available in Ubuntu 11.10? what's the new name for it ?
[04:11] <zykotick9> scottj, you can use "null" values in xorg.conf so a 1920x1200 resolution in a game will disable the other monitor (it's been a long time since I've had to do that however, so i can't really remember the details, sorry)
[04:11] <tensorpudding> Wulf, when you are about to log in, change your session to Ubuntu Classic
[04:11] <crash1hd> Wulf, you are probably looking at unity when you log in at the bottom you can choose between ubuntu and ubuntu classic
[04:11] <tensorpudding> Wulf, that's not GNOME 3, it's Unity
[04:11] <zykotick9> pdtpatr1ck, sun-java* is no longer available in any distro - you have to get it direct from oracle
[04:12] <tensorpudding> !unity | Wulf
[04:12] <pdtpatr1ck> zykotick9, .. much appreciated
[04:12] <dr_willis> !classic
[04:12] <jmcantrell> robin0800: very strange. it seems to work, but you have to keep it open??
[04:12] <___Mike___> hello guys
[04:12] <DaGeek247> hellooo
[04:13] <___Mike___> now connected with my ubuntu install on an old p4 system...
[04:13] <Wulf> ah. Let's see, "Ubuntu classic, no effects."
[04:13] <tensorpudding> yes, classic has no effects, it does not use compiz
[04:13] <Wulf> that's much better, thanks guys!
[04:13] <Wulf> now, how would I disable unity on new installs I make with kickseed/kickstart?
[04:14] <tensorpudding> Wulf, just fyi, tomorrow the next version of ubuntu comes out, which no longer has GNOME 2 at all, but has GNOME 3
[04:14] <robin0800> you can pin it to the launcher then right click for optios etc
[04:14] <Wulf> the 11.10? Great
[04:15] <tensorpudding> i don't know that you can disable unity
[04:15] <robin0800> jmcantrell: you can pin it to the launcher then right click for optios etc
[04:15] <tensorpudding> classic just means not using it
[04:15] <___Mike___> but i am wired and trying to connect via wireless a wna3100 network adapter
[04:15] <tensorpudding> you can start using it again by choosing a different session
[04:15] <___Mike___> i did download the drivers offline I think
[04:15] <Wulf> I'll wait until next week then to see how things go
[04:15] <___Mike___> sorry new to Ubuntu, I am a windows guy
[04:16] <stephni> does anyone know how to install lmms ave extracted the file to deskyopp
[04:16] <tensorpudding> ___Mike___, does your wireless network show up in the wifi tool?
[04:16] <tensorpudding> ___Mike___, there's decent odds you don't have to mess with drivers
[04:16] <tensorpudding> ___Mike___, and if you downloaded drivers for Windows, they won't help you
[04:17] <thorn> !philosophy
[04:17] <thorn> !happiness
[04:17] <bkovacs> Gnome Shell , Unity, KDE 4.7, XFCE, and LXDE are the  new desktop enviroments of the 21st century. We all need to get used to it and embrace it. It will get better. Look at Windows 8. Everyone is complaining about the "metro" interface.
[04:18] <thorn> !life
[04:18] <dr_willis> !info lmms
[04:18] <dr_willis> step
[04:19] <dr_willis> stephni:  its in the repos. use the package manager to install it. :-)
[04:19] <bkovacs> Does Unity and gnome shell kind of remind you of Window Maker and Openstep with side panels.
[04:19] <pedahzur> So, my system (10.04) is telling me there are errors, and to run fsck manually on /dev/sda1. It tries to drop me into a root shell, and prompts for root password, but since the installer never set a root password, and I always sudo to root, there is no root password.  What do I do now?
[04:20] <scottj> for playing quake 1 multiplayer on linux with best graphics what program should I look for? I remember few years ago there were several improved engines
[04:20] <dr_willis> pedahzur:  you could boot a live cd and fsck from it.
[04:21] <pedahzur> dr_willis: Right, I might try that, but it seems quite goofy that the installer doesn't set a root password, but the single-user-system-recovery mode requires a root password.
[04:22] <pedahzur> dr_willis: I'll have to see if I can dig up a live CD.
[04:22] <dr_willis> pedahzur:  never noticed. i tend to always use a live cd in such a case.
[04:23] <zykotick9> scottj, have a look at quakeforge (i'm not sure about it's online support, and it's been years since i used it)
[04:23] <r4fh4> hola
[04:23] <r4fh4> alguien que hable español
[04:23] <zykotick9> !es | r4fh4
[04:23] <pedahzur> dr_willis: other hitch...I'm not sure my cd-rom drive works..............
[04:23] <dr_willis> stephni:  no need to msg me. it is in the repos.  enable the universe repo. perhaps.
[04:24] <dr_willis> pedahzur:  i always have usb flash, or setup grub to boot a  rescue type iso from  a spare partition. ;)
[04:26] <pedahzur> dr_willis: yeah, I should look into how to install a recovery partition...that would be a cool idea to add to the installer.
[04:26] <___Mike___> tensorpudding I think I got the ones for linux off of a forum someone else posted there is both 32 bit and 64 bit versions    a .sys and .inf file
[04:26] <___Mike___> where is the wifi tool?
[04:26] <dr_willis> grub2 booting an iso from hd1 and installing to hd2 is amazing fast also.
[04:26] <tensorpudding> ___Mike___, the little menu on the upper-right
[04:27] <___Mike___> oh, ok, let me check...thanks so much
[04:27] <stephni> how do i enable the univers repos
[04:27] <___Mike___> i have to disconnect from wired right?
[04:28] <Mike> thats better
[04:28] <_Mike_> there thats easier
[04:28] <_Mike_> LOL
[04:29] <mikee> damn
[04:29] <mikee> all registered
[04:30] <thorn> !onirc
[04:30] <mikee> mikey
[04:30] <stephni> how do i enable univers repository
[04:31] <dr_willis> !universe
[04:31] <thorn> !nasty
[04:32] <bkovacs> Anyway of hiding certain icons in the unity menu. With Gnome 2X you could uncheck certain items from showing up in the menu.
[04:32] <thorn> !papercut
[04:34] <jakl> Is there a specific time of release? Do I bother waiting to start the download tonight?
[04:34] <rww> jakl: no on both questions
[04:34] <jakl> ty gn
[04:35] <dr_willis> when its released the torrents normally get so fast its scary.  o need to worry about getting it ;)
[04:35] <pedahzur> So this is interesting: booted off a USB key, did maintenance, says all the file systems are clean. But during boot it says "General failure mounting file systems, dropping to maintenance shell."  But then it lists all the partitions, and says they are all clean.
[04:36] <dr_willis> general failure.. hmm.
[04:36] <stephni> am now in synaptic manager how do i locate lmms?
[04:36] <dr_willis> you edited the fstab lately?
[04:36] <dr_willis> stephni:  use the search feature. or the cli tools.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !info lmms
[04:37] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lmms
[04:37] <thorn> !pdpc
[04:38] <thorn> Is there a weekly newsletter?
[04:38] <thorn> !uwn
[04:38] <stephni> ok i found lmms and lmms  common should i install both?
[04:38] <dr_willis> !fish
[04:39] <thorn> Thanks ubottu!
[04:39] <thorn> Good night folks!
[04:39] <tensorpudding> mikee, you don't have to disconnect from wireless
[04:39] <tensorpudding> err, wired
[04:39] <dr_willis> stephni:  it should pull in any need3ed depedencies
[04:39] <rww> stephni: install lmms, it'll probably pull in lmms-common itself
[04:40] <stephni> ok thanks for the help i do appreciate
[04:40] <mikee> oh ok cool
[04:40] <pedahzur> dr_willis: No, no editing of fstab.  I'll check it though, make sure it didn't get corrupted. I actually had a "lost" file on sda1 (ext2 partition) that turned out to be /etc/shadow. :)  Copied that back into place.
[04:40] <dr_willis> lost the shadow file? eww. heh
[04:40] <mikee> so i found the menu...but not sure where to go.... :-)
[04:41] <pedahzur> dr_willis: Yeah, but it was still there in /lost+found, so I got it back.
[04:41] <dr_willis> pedahzur:  it might be curupted
[04:41] <pedahzur> dr_willis: yah, it might.
[04:41] <dr_willis> why are you using ext2     pedahzur ?
[04:41] <User8976> Hello, does anyone know how to build linux from the ground up? Could it be done with any linux OS, even ubuntu or debian?
[04:42] <dr_willis> !lfs | User8976
[04:42] <mikee> so tensorpudding I created a wireless network with my ssid....hmmm not sure what i do now
[04:42] <mikee> LOl
[04:43] <mikee> sorry i am such a newb with Ubuntu
[04:43] <tensorpudding> mikee, you should connect to it
[04:43] <Wulf> User8976: don't read that document if you want to have more fun.
[04:43] <tensorpudding> mikee, do you see it in the wifi networks?
[04:43] <Wulf> User8976: assemble all the knowledge about needed software and how to do it yourself
[04:43] <mikee> how do you look at the wifi networks?
[04:43] <stephni> fcuk i had an error installing it fcuk
[04:44] <dr_willis> lfs is a neat project. try it in a vbox istance sometime. :)
[04:44] <dr_willis> grr my n key is flakey. ;(
[04:44] <pedahzur> dr_willis: Old system...upgraded to 10.04. Never bothered to upgrade the / partition.  Not sure why.  I think when I originally installed it (8.04, I think) grub didn't support ext3, or I wasn't really confident in ext3, or something....and then never changed it after that.
[04:44] <mikee> i have arrows that point up and down....and i have options (auto eth, disconnect, vpn, enable networking, connection information, edit connections
[04:45] <mikee> is that where it should list them
[04:45] <mikee> hmmm
[04:45] <tensorpudding> mikee, no, i mean
[04:45] <tensorpudding> does it show up on the panel menu
[04:45] <mikee> wifi?
[04:46] <User8976> I wanted to have a fast linux OS with limited functionality. Geared to the internet and playing multimedia. I have tried splashtop but it seems it doesen't seem work.
[04:46] <mikee> hmmm
[04:46] <mikee> don't see it
[04:46] <dr_willis> splashtop is very specilized.
[04:47] <User8976> It would be slick if, you can boot the linux first and then later boot windows while running linux and then switch to it later. Similar to the function that splashtop has.
[04:47] <tensorpudding> i'm sorry, i'm not using unity at the moment so i can't tell you exactly what it looks like
[04:47] <dr_willis> User8976:  your needs are a bit broad. ;) most any distro can do that.
[04:47] <tensorpudding> it should show a list of SSIDs for nearby networks
[04:47]  * Administrator
[04:48] <tensorpudding> mikee, can you take a screenshot of the menu?
[04:48] <mikee> sure
[04:48] <tensorpudding> there's a program called Take Screenshot
[04:48] <dr_willis> User8976:  you just described 'zen' i think. or is it xen.
[04:48] <tensorpudding> just have it set to take a screenshot on a timer and open the menu
[04:49] <tensorpudding> then put the image on http://imagebin.org/
[04:49] <mikee> is there a paint program on ubuntu to save the print screen function to?
[04:50] <tensorpudding> mikee, you use the Take Screenshot program
[04:51] <Captainkrtek> a little off topic, but relevant to this channel http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/x11.png ;-)
[04:52] <User8976> Could xen allow you to boot windows while running linux? Then also exit linux and xen. The end would be running windows alone.
[04:53] <dr_willis> xen stays undereeth it all
[04:54] <dr_willis> !xen
[04:54] <mikee> ok, got the shot...have to put son to bed...be back in a little bit ok...thanks for your help..if your on i will contact ya man...thanks again...i will post scrshot when i get back
[04:54] <dr_willis> im not even sure if windows can work with xen.
[04:56] <pedahzur> dr_willis: Yeah, so really weird...in the rescue environment, everything mounts just fine. But when I boot, it says "General failure mounting disks."
[04:57] <dr_willis> pedahzur:  if  the ext2 was messed up. it could be files missing or other issues i guess.
[04:59] <sebsebseb> hi
[05:03] <pedahzur> dr_willis: I suppose, yeah.
[05:09] <Gabri-le> someone can hep me with the optical unit ? ubuntu don't recognize it :(
[05:11] <mrgud> can anyone to tell me something
[05:11] <histo> !ask | mrgud
[05:12] <histo> mikee: any image editing program.  There is also a screenshot program
[05:13] <mrgud> hi histo. so,where is the problem with ext4 journaling file system,why is this form invalid
[05:14] <adminewb> would the beta2 builds of oneiric be adequate for effective use of zsync when the production release is out?
[05:15] <rww> adminewb: I'd go with a daily, if you're looking for one to download and zsync later
[05:16] <mrgud> can any tell what with clonezilla
[05:16] <mrgud> this not work korect
[05:16] <dr_willis> mrgud:  clarify the problem some more or rephrasae it.
[05:18] <adminewb> rww thanks
[05:18] <mrgud> i was made img from my os pat then reimage and out
[05:18] <mrgud> my pat was destroyed
[05:19] <mikee> how can i post the png on here
[05:19] <mikee> xchat... :-)
[05:19] <pedahzur> dr_willis: Well, I'm booting...at some point in the explosion passwd and shadow swapped places.  Now that I have those back in place, it will boot.  But I forgot to set the permissions right, so I'll need to boot in resuce mode again...I'll take caree of that tomorrow.  Thank you for your help!
[05:20] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[05:20] <mrgud> dr willis?
[05:21] <dr_willis> mrgud:  well from what i am making out.. clonezilla image did not work. i dont use cloezilla. i tend to just use dd as needed.
[05:23] <mikee> here is a link http://imagebin.org/178733
[05:23] <mikee> thanks for all the help guys
[05:24] <mikee> hey tensorpudding you still on
[05:26] <tensorpudding> mikee, okay, you don't have wifi drivers installed then, or your wifi is hardware disabled
[05:26] <tensorpudding> mikee, it's probably the former
[05:26] <tensorpudding> mikee, try running Additional Hardware
[05:27] <mikee> hmmm..sorry how do i do that...LOL
[05:27] <Unknown_Monkey> The Beatles
[05:27] <Unknown_Monkey>
[05:27] <Unknown_Monkey>                                                                    .od88888bo.
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[05:27] <FloodBot1> Unknown_Monkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <Unknown_Monkey>  .888888888888b                          d88888888888888b_     d8888888888888888b
[05:28] <mikee> how do i run additional hardware....
[05:29] <tensorpudding> mikee, it's an application
[05:29] <tensorpudding> it's under System
[05:30] <mikee> ok cool...i was just googling it...LOL
[05:30] <mikee> they talk about a device manager also
[05:30] <mikee> lol
[05:30] <ThePub> after installing a program with wine I cannot add the icon to the start bar in Unity.  any reason why?
[05:33] <mikee> so i have additional drivers scanning...it came up with nothing...dont see additional hardware though....what is it under...system/admin
[05:33] <tensorpudding> sorry
[05:33] <tensorpudding> additional drivers was the name
[05:33] <tensorpudding> i got confused
[05:34] <tensorpudding> apparently it's not supported out-of-the-box
[05:34] <tensorpudding> there's a forum thread on how to get it working
[05:34] <mikee> hmmm...where should i stick the drivers i downloaded
[05:34] <mikee> cool....do you have the link  :-)
[05:36] <tensorpudding> it's not that simple
[05:36] <tensorpudding> the windows drivers are like a round peg, and ubuntu is a square hole
[05:37] <tensorpudding> i'll link you to the thread but it'll probably be hard to follow
[05:37] <tensorpudding> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549190
[05:37] <tensorpudding> mikee, ^
[05:38] <tensorpudding> mikee, did you download 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu
[05:39] <uofm49426> what time of day does 11.10 release
[05:40] <rww> uofm49426: there isn't a set time
[05:41] <uofm49426> i think xubuntu is released today
[05:43] <phlak_user> hi
[05:44] <mikee> tensorpudding 32 bit ubuntu
[05:45] <mikee> i was online looking at ndiswrapper
[05:45] <mikee> but it is waaaayyyy complicated
[05:45] <mikee> isn't there an easy way to install hardware?
[05:45] <tensorpudding> normally
[05:45] <phlak_user> mikee: isnt your hw supported natively?
[05:45] <tensorpudding> your hardware isn't officially supported in ubuntu
[05:46] <mikee> phlak_user watcha mean?
[05:46] <mikee> i downloaded some drivers for the adapter
[05:46] <phlak_user> mikee: is it in the hcl
[05:46] <phlak_user> !hcl | mikee
[05:47] <dr_hoax> give 11.10
[05:47] <mikee> phlak_user   sorry way newbe to Ubuntu...I have used windows since 95...LOL...what is hcl?
[05:47] <dr_hoax> GIMME
[05:47] <dr_hoax> hardware compatibility layer?
[05:47] <phlak_user> mikee: hardware compatibility list
[05:47] <tensorpudding> mikee, as i said before, your drivers are not designed for linux
[05:48] <tensorpudding> mikee, they won't work
[05:48] <dr_willis> no one ever reads the bots info. :)
[05:48] <tensorpudding> ndiswrapper is essentially hacking the round peg so that it can fit in the square hole
[05:48] <dr_hoax> i can fit any hole
[05:48] <mikee> tensorpudding    do you mind if i post the link where i downloaded the drivers
[05:49] <tensorpudding> i don't think it particularly matters where you got them
[05:49] <tensorpudding> lots of sites distribute them
[05:49] <phlak_user> mikee: use the drivers that work with windows (start with a known devil)
[05:49] <dr_hoax> lol
[05:50] <uofm49426> if you want to use ndis temporally there is a gui programs
[05:52] <uofm49426> go to ubuntu software center looking look up windows wireless driver
[05:53] <telex> can anyone help me to upgrade freetype version from 2.4.4 to 2.4.5 or 2.4.6?
[05:55] <chirag_d_gr8> I tried to install linux ubuntu 11.10 daily build using usb stick. My pc successfully booted from usb stick and show me option for installation or live boot. Any option I select, The screen goes blank after that and I see nothing happening for 20 minutes. Help me
[05:55] <vsadevi> desktop recorder
[05:55] <Lithos84> !11.10 | chirag_d_gr8
[05:56] <phlak_user> !details| vsadevi
[05:56] <chirag_d_gr8> Liithos82: The same problem goes for linux mint 11 , kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu 11.04
[05:57] <phlak_user> chirag_d_gr8: first thing to check -> md5sum of the iso; next - what hardware?
[05:58] <vsadevi> I want to record desktop sessions with audio and vedios for making tutorials
[05:58] <chirag_d_gr8> I am using a HP 117tx laptop with hm65 chipset, 3 gb ram, core i3 and ati 6470 graphics card
[05:59] <phlak_user> chirag_d_gr8: you should try with the modeset=0 option
[05:59] <chirag_d_gr8> phlak_user: how to set modeset=0 option?
[06:00] <johnn> Hi, why storage device manager does not work on 11.04?
[06:01] <phlak_user> chirag_d_gr8: add radeon.modeset=0 to the end of the kernel boot line (press e when it presents the menu to edit)
[06:02] <johnn> I want to mount an ntfs disk but I added an entry on fstab but on boot I get error message for the disk, any advice?
[06:02] <phlak_user> chirag_d_gr8: or follow this -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2011-July/010675.html
[06:02] <phlak_user> Johnn are you able to mount it manually?
[06:02] <johnn> I think so
[06:03] <chintan> is new version of ubuntu available ?
[06:03] <johnn> on lucid lynx  it was fine.
[06:03] <phlak_user> Johnn: think? you could do it and confirm
[06:03] <vsadevi> I am running the natty ubunty 11.04 , I am trying to record the destop session with record mydesktop app , i am not getting sound recorded ,it is asking for jackd server running wher ecan i get it
[06:03] <johnn> UUID="948C4BF08e4BCB84 /media/disk500 ntfs-3g defaults, 0 0
[06:03] <chintan> 11.10 available ?
[06:03] <phlak_user> !info jack | vsadevi
[06:03] <johnn> this is the entry on fstab
[06:04] <chintan> plz give answer of my que ..
[06:04] <phlak_user> johnn: i dont see a closing " (quotes) on the UUID string
[06:04] <chintan> is 11.10 available ?
[06:04] <phlak_user> !11.10 > chintan
[06:05] <johnn> Thanks a lot!
[06:05] <johnn> I am tired..
[06:05] <johnn> That should solv the problem, thanks again!
[06:05] <phlak_user> !info jackd > vsadevi
[06:05] <phlak_user> johnn: yw
[06:06] <chintan> i have simple que
[06:06] <mikee> ok, so i downloaded nds wireless drivers from software center
[06:06] <chintan> is 11.10 availbale ??
[06:06] <mikee> lets see what happens
[06:06] <phlak_user> chintan: pl join #ubuntu+1 channel
[06:07] <reisio> chintan: it's not final & public yet, at any rate
[06:07] <TheCowboy> how many hours
[06:07] <chintan> when it realese ?
[06:07] <chintan> any fix date ?
[06:07] <chintan> i want to download ..
[06:07] <vsadevi> No menu item `jack' in node `(dir)Top'. this is the uotput i get when do info jack
[06:08] <phlak_user> vsadevi: oops; just type sudo apt-get install jackd
[06:08] <vsadevi> problem solved for jack
[06:08] <reisio> chintan: supposedly within the next 24 hours
[06:08] <chintan> ok reisio
[06:09] <vsadevi> can we install ubuntu on 128 mb ram
[06:09] <reisio> vsadevi: you can, but it might save you time to start with one of the varieties that require less hardware resources, such as Lubuntu
[06:10] <reisio> vsadevi: the default mainline Ubuntu environment will be annoyingly demanding
[06:10] <vsadevi> more details p-3 500 ghz compaq presario
[06:10] <FragUPlenty> Lubuntu or may one of the derivatives like linux mint for 128mb ram
[06:10] <reisio> vsadevi: any particular graphics device?
[06:10] <vsadevi> I want to install ubuntu on compaq presario p-3 500 mhz and use to surf the web
[06:10] <vsadevi> can i do it
[06:11] <FragUPlenty> might get better performance though to use like puppy linux
[06:11] <reisio> vsadevi: technically yes, but using Lubuntu would be a better idea
[06:11] <vsadevi> ubuntu natty on p-3 500 ghz 128 mb ram
[06:11] <reisio> puppy is for computers from the 1950s
[06:11] <reisio> vsadevi: 500MHz
[06:11] <vsadevi> 500 ghz
[06:11] <reisio> vsadevi: the environment would be incredibly unresponsive, it simply is not designed with such old hardware in mind
[06:11]  * phlak_user o_O
[06:12] <FragUPlenty> I have a p2 333mhz and p3 600mhz and both lagged and glitched alot
[06:13] <reisio> I've run less software on more hardware and it was still intolerable
[06:13] <phlak_user> If you can live without X; that hardware is just fine (use Lynx as browser)
[06:13] <reisio> X isn't the issue, X by itself is quite light
[06:13] <reisio> it's GNOME, you don't want to run GNOME on that hardware
[06:13] <reisio> not even GNOME 2
[06:14] <vsadevi> I use to run debain 4.0 well with graphical X ,kde,gnome , on p-3 500 ghz ,356 gb ram
[06:14] <harry_> whats the diffrence between 'sudo su - ' and when i execute any .exe and at that time it ask for the password???
[06:14] <fyksen-laptop> What is the channel to discuss ubuntu 11.10?
[06:14] <reisio> vsadevi: nope
[06:14] <vsadevi> but now i want to upgrade to new kernel and new distro
[06:14] <reisio> fyksen-laptop: #ubuntu+1
[06:14] <reisio> vsadevi: why new distro
[06:15] <xannen> General Java Question: Does Tomcat 7 support Java EE Bean?  Or do I need dedicated Java EE Container?  And if so, any suggested one?
[06:16] <vsadevi> I have this debain 4.0 for nearly 4 to 5 years , now ram have gone ,so i want to use reamining 128 mb with it instea dof buying new ram slot
[06:16] <reisio> mmm
[06:17] <reisio> vsadevi: I can't see how moving from Debian to Ubuntu would be anything but a step backwards
[06:17] <reisio> vsadevi: if you want to lighten the load, simply install a window manager or DE lighter than KDE and GNOME
[06:17] <reisio> vsadevi: try maybe openbox
[06:17] <vsadevi> ok
[06:17] <vsadevi> thank youreisio
[06:18] <chintan> bye to all
[06:18] <reisio> np
[06:18] <reisio> bye chin
[06:18] <jivjiv> Hi Please help me resolve this. http://pastebin.com/4sK4yPQL
[06:18] <crash1hd> Hmm running ubuntu liveUSB via EFI it gets to the point where its going to the desktop and the monitor turns off and blinks the power light
[06:18] <vsadevi> do you know any good internet links for ubuntu vedios ,leaving out youtube
[06:18]  * reisio headdesks
[06:19] <reisio> jivjiv: what're you trying to install?
[06:20] <jivjiv> reisio : am trying to build firefox in a old linux system. But some libraries are outdated. Am fairly new to linux
[06:20] <reisio> jivjiv: why not use a binary?
[06:21] <jivjiv> reisio : I have modified the code of firefox for my purpose.
[06:21] <reisio> what's your purpose?
[06:22] <jivjiv> reisio : for example.. I don't want cookies to be shared between cookies. I have disabled lots of modules like auto update, Profile manager etc..
[06:22] <Guest19251> I am trying to un-install virtualbox with "sudo apt-get purge virtualbox"
[06:22] <Guest19251> and I get this: "Virtual packages like 'virtualbox' can't be removed
[06:22] <Guest19251> "
[06:22] <jivjiv> reisio : cookies shouldn't be shared between tabs*
[06:22] <Guest19251> How can I remove virtualbox/?
[06:22] <reisio> Guest19251: maybe it's virtualbox-ose
[06:22] <reisio> or -bin
[06:22] <reisio> jivjiv: ok
[06:22] <rymate1234> Guest19251: sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-ose
[06:23] <reisio> jivjiv: so it looks like it thinks your GTK+ version is too old
[06:24] <jivjiv> reisio : correct. I ran sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev to install later version...
[06:24] <reisio> jivjiv: and which version did that install
[06:26] <jivjiv> reisio : I am not very sure. I thought 2.0 is the version Now that u ask I feel a little stupid. wait let me find a command to check the version of GTK+ installed.
[06:26] <reisio> it says .10 or something in your paste
[06:28] <gh0st> I have vmware workstation installed in ubuntu 10.04 64bit. I'm trying to create a 32bit windows 7 virtual machine and the windows install has been sitting at 0% for the last few hours.
[06:28] <jivjiv> reisio : ok. And I am not able to find a command to check the lib version..
[06:28] <reisio> gh0st: any particular reason you chose vmware?
[06:29] <gh0st> it's free, I'm a student
[06:29] <reisio> it's gratis, anyways
[06:29] <reisio> gh0st: what processor do you have?
[06:29] <gh0st> intel core 2 duo 9660 I think
[06:29] <rww> gh0st: ask #vbox or ##windows. That sounds like a problem with your Windows guest, not the Ubuntu host.
[06:29] <gh0st> k
[06:29] <reisio> gh0st: 9660?
[06:29] <rww> erm, #vmware
[06:30] <reisio> gh0st: if egrep 'svm|vmx' /proc/cpuinfo returns anything, you'll get more performance out of kvm instead of vmware
[06:30] <reisio> gh0st: and otherwise I'd still recommend VirtualBox over VMware
[06:31] <vsadevi> how to install kde in natty ubuntu 11.04 ,does it come with 4.3 dvd
[06:31] <phlak_user> vsadevi: install kbuntu
[06:31] <reisio> vsadevi: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[06:31] <vsadevi> I have natty installed with gnome fallback
[06:32] <gh0st> I've had a horrible time with virtualbox. Does it feature a "save state"?
[06:32] <vsadevi> now i want to install kde
[06:32] <reisio> gh0st: yes
[06:32] <reisio> gh0st: what was horrible about it?
[06:32] <vsadevi> is kubuntu available on the dvd or i need to dounload from repos
[06:32] <reisio> vsadevi: repos
[06:33] <gh0st> Can't remember exactly. It was a few months back and I was running it on a windows host, not ubuntu.
[06:34] <reisio> mmm
[06:34] <vsadevi> so ineed to do apt-get install kde or apt-get install kuduntu
[06:34] <reisio> vsadevi: all the commands you need are in the link I gave
[06:34] <vsadevi> ok
[06:35] <stephni> i installed lmms from repos but i can't find it in applications
[06:35] <vsadevi> how can use this downloaded packages of kubuntu and take them install on my other system running ubuntu, I generally setup local yum repo in rpm based things ,how can i do it here
[06:35] <phlak_user> vsadevi: in fact here -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[06:35] <reisio> stephni: /usr/bin/lmms ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> !aptoncd
[06:36] <orgnlchc> Hey everyone..
[06:36] <orgnlchc> Can anyone tell me why Ubuntu 11.10 is not yet out? :O
[06:36] <vsadevi> great tip thanks
[06:37] <orgnlchc> Went to work today and thought that upgrading would be the first thing i'll do, but nothing..
[06:37] <ninjajeff> evening channel
[06:37] <orgnlchc> Hm?
[06:37] <sevenninety> hola ninjajeff
[06:37] <vsadevi> i have installed gnome -shell using the command apt-get install gnome-shell on natty 11.04
[06:37] <orgnlchc> Yeah, but what about 11.10 final?
[06:37] <vsadevi> now i want to roll back to previous state
[06:38] <phlak_user> orgnlchc: maybe the #ubuntu-release-party isnt over yet :)
[06:38] <reisio> orgnlchc: because it isn't
[06:38] <ninjajeff> my installation of 10.10 has suddenly stopped recognizing my network card. what should i do?
[06:38] <vsadevi>  i cant set themes on my gnome desktop
[06:38] <orgnlchc> What is the ubuntu release party, lol? :D
[06:38] <corrosive23> it will be release in 11 hours
[06:38] <orgnlchc> oh, damnit. Ruined my day. :D
[06:38] <mikee> thank you for all your help..have a great night :-)
[06:39] <orgnlchc> Either way, I hope gnome shell works fine with 11.10.
[06:39] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: during or after installation?
[06:39] <orgnlchc> after
[06:39] <ninjajeff> after
[06:39] <ninjajeff> worked fine during and for a short time after
[06:39] <orgnlchc> btw, i can't set themes either on gnome-shell.
[06:39] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: wired or wireless
[06:39] <ninjajeff> wired
[06:40] <phlak_user> ninjajeff:  what does the network manager show?
[06:40] <ninjajeff> no devices
[06:40] <ninjajeff> it used to show eth1
[06:41] <ninjajeff> this is the icon on the panel im talking about
[06:41] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: do you have more than one ethernet device/card/port?
[06:42] <ninjajeff> only one card
[06:42] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -C network
[06:42] <vsadevi> how do i roll back to previous state after I have installed an deb package on the ubuntu,
[06:42] <phlak_user> vsadevi: uninstall the deb
[06:42] <reisio> vsadevi: downgrade?
[06:42] <ninjajeff> i cant paste it, but i can get any details
[06:43] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: also paste the output of lspci
[06:44] <ninjajeff> it says i have an nvidia network card, which is incorrect
[06:44] <fmauro> ninjajeff: you could quickly find out if it's your system or the os by booting a liveOS
[06:45] <ninjajeff> lspci thinks everything is nvidia
[06:45] <phlak_user> ninjajeff: thinks?
[06:46] <ninjajeff> well, lspci lists Host bridge, RAM memory, etc...
[06:46] <ninjajeff> all as nVidia Corp.
[06:47] <vsadevi> I mean I installed gnome-shell using command apt-get install gnome-shell ,now  i want to revert back to old gnome classic with out gnome shell ,removing gnome -shell ,how to do it, using yum I can do it in rom base dsitro to roll back to previous state ,how do i do it in this deabin packages
[06:47] <ninjajeff> USB, ethernet, PCI bridge
[06:47] <ninjajeff> everything is listed as an nVidia device
[06:47] <fmauro> !enter | ninjajeff
[06:48] <ninjajeff> k, sorry
[06:49] <fmauro> ninjajeff: do you have a liveCD or usb? you could really determine quite quickly if it's because of ubuntu or your system is going haywire
[06:49] <Polah> ninjajeff: Your RAM is listed as nVidia? As in the actual modules? Are you sure it's not talking about your chipset?
[06:49] <ninjajeff> my livecd is not available atm
[06:50] <devilsdue> so guys
[06:50] <devilsdue> I have a good question
[06:50] <ninjajeff> every entry in the output of lspci says "nVidia Corporation"
[06:50] <devilsdue> what's a good HTML parser
[06:50] <devilsdue> meaning, what is some good coding method to take XML or HTML tags and store the variables in between the tags
[06:50] <reisio> devilsdue: there's one or three in CPAN
[06:50] <devilsdue> Is CPAN a package?
[06:51] <fmauro> ninjajeff: this is because your chipset is made by nvidia
[06:51] <reisio> devilsdue: it's a repository of Perl applications
[06:51] <devilsdue> okay
[06:51] <devilsdue> so apt-get install cpan?
[06:51] <Polah> ninjajeff: That's the same for me too
[06:52] <devilsdue> that's cool
[06:52] <reisio> interesting =P
[06:52] <Polah> ninjajeff: Everything is listed as nVidia something, except for some processor lines, because I have an nVidia chipset
[06:52] <Polah>  ninjajeff: Something like this: 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a3)?
[06:53] <ninjajeff> ah ha...
[06:54] <fmauro> ninjajeff: as you can't post anything, could you describe the output of lshw -C network
[06:54] <Tru3fate> is 11.10 out. i thought it will be out today
[06:54] <ninjajeff> it is using the onboard interface
[06:54] <dr_willis> Tru3fate:  sometime today.. topic will change when its done
[06:54] <ninjajeff> so... that can connect now.
[06:55] <Tru3fate> thank you
[06:55] <devilsdue> k
[06:55] <ninjajeff> thanks, guys. that got things done
[06:55] <devilsdue> Which scripts in cpan have those HTML tag variable taking scripts, or should I search something like koders.com
[06:55] <bluebird> Hi, which package contains aticonfig? I am looking for something similar to nvidia-settings
[06:56] <spikebike> amdcccle
[06:56] <ninjajeff> alright. upgrading to 11.04
[06:56] <Atlantic777> When will be 11.10 images available for download?
[06:56] <bluebird> ty
[06:57] <dr_willis> Atlantic777:   topic will change when its done
[06:57] <reisio> Atlantic777: sometime today
[06:57] <ninjajeff> i have a pci nic installed in this machine. should i use the onboard or the card?
[06:57] <Lasers> Oh it's not out still? I assume it was!
[06:58] <dr_willis> !release
[06:58] <fmauro> ninjajeff: use the one that is working
[06:58] <ninjajeff> fmauro, touche
[06:58] <dr_willis> heh. theres some relese channel
[06:58] <Malgorath> was wondering if anyone could help me with an nvidia bug? It wont see my monitor proplery(Compaq W17q) and there for puts it in a very poor resolution.  http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x is my bug report
[06:58] <Malgorath> !party
[06:59] <spikebike> heh, ubottu needs an update
[06:59] <ninjajeff> assuming i can get both working and need only one, which should i use?
[07:01] <fmauro> ninjajeff: it depends on what your final use for it is, but if it's for regular browsing use, it matters not
[07:01] <vsadevi> any good ubuntu server website for natty ubuntu to learn
[07:02] <Malgorath> vsadevi, do you mean nhow to setup a server?
[07:02] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  theres 100's of sites with guides and docs and so forth.
[07:02] <TehDGM> vsadevi: thats a bit of a broad subject. What do you want to do with it?
[07:02] <ninjajeff> for larger downloads, the card might perform better, i take it?
[07:02] <vsadevi> evry thing about ubuntu server on natty 11.04
[07:02] <Malgorath> vsadevi, downloading the server iso and installing it is pretty straight forward. even selecting rolls is defined there
[07:02] <dr_willis> ninjajeff:  i doubt if it will matter
[07:02] <vsadevi> I installed natyy 11.04 ,now i want to convert in to server ,
[07:03] <TehDGM> to serve what? websites?
[07:03] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  install the services you want... configure them. done
[07:03] <Atlantic777> vsadevi: for home usage or production?
[07:03] <vsadevi> ftp server,jave tomcat cat ,jboss so on
[07:03] <ninjajeff> ok. ill stick with onboard for now and work on other stuff
[07:03] <fmauro> ninjajeff: no, the card is facing your LAN with either 100MB/s or 1000MB/s and I really doubt your outbound WAN has that kind of bandwidth
[07:03] <Malgorath> vsadevi, google is your friend on that
[07:03] <vsadevi> to laearn and then take it to production
[07:04] <TehDGM> there are loads of tutorials on each individual subject you can easily find on google
[07:04] <fmauro> ninjajeff: (reply to earlier point)
[07:04] <TehDGM> dont search for something that explains "everything" but search for each individual topic
[07:04] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  always a good idea to go learn ssh well. ;)
[07:04] <TehDGM> you will find that setting up what you want is pretty straight forward
[07:05] <Malgorath> tweaking is the time consumer
[07:05] <TehDGM> yup
[07:05] <anon_user> ninjajeff, if you stck w/onboard you can take out the pci nic and replace it with some other fun pci device ;)
[07:05]  * fmauro imagines fun pci devices
[07:05] <Malgorath> like this stupid monitor i have... omg i can barely stand this 1300x768 resolution... its so ... blocky
[07:05]  * TehDGM doesn't have pci slots
[07:06] <Malgorath> TehDGM, dongle?
[07:06]  * dr_willis recalls using a ntsc tv as a monitor....
[07:06] <TehDGM> naw i got only pci-e slots
[07:06] <vsadevi> how to run jackd server sound on ubuntu natty
[07:06] <dr_willis> !jackd
[07:07] <Malgorath> vsadevi, as stated before... google that very question and get like 100,000+ hits
[07:07] <dr_willis> hmm there3s some guides on that i recall
[07:07] <TehDGM> either way, rtfgr :)
[07:07] <dr_willis> jackd was overkill for my needs. ;)
[07:07] <TehDGM> (where gr is google results xD)
[07:08] <dr_willis> !jack
[07:08] <t0rakka> greetings, is there any shell command to see how fast one is writing to a device (currently) .. I don't mean to benchmark, but rather to know how fast I am writing to a device RIGHT NOW (aka. currently)
[07:08] <t0rakka> cat /proc/???
[07:08] <vsadevi> I need to    recordscreenssion with record mydesktop ,and it is asking for jackd to run in background
[07:08] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  that can work with pulse audio also i belive
[07:09] <Malgorath> was wondering if anyone could help me with an nvidia bug? It wont see my monitor proplery(Compaq W17q) and there for puts it in a very poor resolution.  http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x is my bug report
[07:09] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  or just fire up the packagee mamager and install jackd
[07:09] <vsadevi> it is only taking alsa or default device but sound is not coming
[07:09] <phartz> sudo ap-get install jackd2?
[07:10] <dr_willis> ive seen guides on recording sound with record mydesktop. had to tell it specifically to use pulse i remember
[07:10] <Malgorath> vsadevi, part of the freedom of linux is learning to do for yourself and when others point you in a direction to not ignore it but take the mantle and plow on.
[07:11] <vsadevi>  i dont now how to configure it with pulse audio
[07:11] <Malgorath> vsadevi, google it
[07:11] <dr_willis> 'recordmydesktop' is nice but needs a little work.
[07:11] <dr_willis> vsadevi:  i had to google a bit to learn how.
[07:12] <dr_willis> had to istall a few pulse tools and change a setting i recall
[07:12] <stephni> must i run this /usr/bin/lmms ? b4 i start lmms
[07:12] <Vermicelli> My proc fan is running high, and running sensors only yields aj@ajs-dt:~$ sensors
[07:12] <Vermicelli> k10temp-pci-00c3
[07:12] <Vermicelli> Adapter: PCI adapter
[07:12] <Vermicelli> temp1:       +44.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
[07:12] <Vermicelli> What should I do to check/control fan speed?
[07:13] <dr_willis> stephni:  if thats the command that runs lmms, then that would make sense
[07:13] <kylesum> hi, just started using unity over class gnome2. the 'shell' opens full screen is there anyway i can change this?
[07:13] <andeeeuk> does anyone know when 11.10 will be in the update manager?
[07:13] <Malgorath> Vermicelli, please don't flood. use pastebin
[07:13] <inzzz> tomorrow i think?
[07:14] <Vermicelli> Apologies.
[07:14] <jsona> try to re-update your manager @andeeeuk
[07:14] <dr_willis> andeeeuk:  what ver. are you using now?
[07:14] <inzzz> or today
[07:14] <maalac> need help in configuring HP wireless
[07:14] <maalac> with active key badge
[07:14] <andeeeuk> i am using 11.04
[07:14] <andeeeuk> what do you mean re-update your manager?
[07:15] <jsona> try to refresh it
[07:15] <jsona> or do it some other time
[07:15] <andeeeuk> i have just done an update this morning
[07:15] <dr_willis> you could be upgradeing now if you really wanted to...
[07:15] <andeeeuk> thought it was just basic updates
[07:16] <jsona> yes i agree to that dr_willis
[07:16] <philipballew>  how would i port scan to see in p 22 is open?
[07:16] <andeeeuk> I want to upgrade now but only really want to do it through the manager
[07:16] <kylesum> philipballew: are you familiar with nmap
[07:16] <MrHobo> just wondering, if i found something small like changing a font completely messes up fonts in rhythmbox using gtk3, should i send it as a bug or is it too small and silly for them to care? :p, if i switch to zekton which  is quite a common font for people to use, any size it totally messes it up
[07:16] <dr_willis> getting the alt-cd via torrents would be fastest way tomorrow i imagine
[07:16] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[07:17] <philipballew> kylesum, yeah, I have it installed
[07:17] <philipballew> I was curious the comand i use to check
[07:17] <andeeeuk> thanks
[07:17] <jsona> try it again then
[07:17] <andeeeuk> I will have a look
[07:17] <kylesum> i believe nmap -p 22 <ip addr/ ip range> should work
[07:17] <SpiderFred> is learning to write with all ten fingers worth it? do you know somw good linux program for learning?
[07:18] <louie> how you guys doing listen I got another computer its a compaq presario how can i upgrade it
[07:18] <dr_willis> SpiderFred:  you mean learning to type?
[07:18] <SpiderFred> dr_willis: yes thats what I meant
[07:18] <dr_willis> theres typing tutorial apps out thers
[07:18] <somsip> SpiderFred: Believe me, it's better than typing badly for 30 years, then trying to learn how to do it...
[07:19] <dr_willis> i only use 8 fingers. ;)
[07:19] <andeeeuk> would anyone say it is not worth upgrading util you see the upgrade in the upgrade manager?
[07:19] <somsip> dr_willis: i only started to use the CTRl and SHFT on the right side of the keyboard last week...
[07:19] <TehDGM> i'd say i use 9,5, thumbs are mostly just spacebar
[07:20] <louie>
[07:20] <dr_willis> andeeeuk:  depends on your needs.. you could wait a week to upgrade if you wanted to
[07:20] <jsona> yea that's abso-fucking-lutely right
[07:20] <louie> well its slow and its suppose to be a windows 7
[07:20] <Lasers> Week? Wait a year or two.
[07:20] <jsona> well i fyou format and re-install it
[07:21] <dr_willis> i tend to install the beta/rc then update the day befor release.. then wait a week  befor updateing to final.
[07:22] <andeeeuk> ok, nice one
[07:22] <anon_user> philipballew,    nmap -A -T4 <IP_ADDRESS> will show all open ports and associated services on your local machine
[07:22] <costin> when there ubuntu 11.10?
[07:22] <dr_willis> avoid that first day traffic jam.
[07:22] <andeeeuk> I think i will wait for a while
[07:22] <louie> well i appreciate whatever help or advice u guys can give me
[07:22] <zmbmartin> I am super impressed with 11.10
[07:22] <andeeeuk> yeah, it is always busy for the first day
[07:23] <philipballew> alright, thanks :)
[07:23] <dr_willis> and theres always a lot of bug fix's the first few  weeks.
[07:23] <andeeeuk> louie: i have a compaq presario also and you will upgrade the normal way
[07:24] <andeeeuk> everything should work out the box with this laptop
[07:24] <costin> I speak only here ?
[07:24] <louie> thank u andeeeuk
[07:24] <dr_willis> costin:  hmm?
[07:25] <dr_willis> !party
[07:26] <jsona> can you repost that again?
[07:26] <andeeeuk> no problem
[07:26] <louie> andeeuk what if I wanted to turn it into a mac notebook
[07:26] <andeeeuk> louie, download a mac skin for ubuntu
[07:26] <andeeeuk> i wouldnt know tbh
[07:27] <louie> veronika
[07:27] <jsona> there isn't mac skin for ubuntu
[07:27] <costin> What is the difference daily build and the finale?
[07:27] <louie> i meant for the mac
[07:27] <louie> for the compaq
[07:28] <TehDGM> ehm
[07:28] <andeeeuk> i am not a mac user at all so i wouldnt know
[07:28] <andeeeuk> there are many mac skins for ubuntu as I used to use them all the time
[07:28] <andeeeuk> maybe not for gnome3
[07:32] <jsona> guys why do you all quit for no reason???????????
[07:34] <steffenchr> Does anybody know what time ubuntu is released ? :)
[07:39] <hubrt> hello
[07:39] <fmauro> hello
[07:39] <costin> is ok to install 11.10 daily build ?
[07:39] <tensorpudding> 11.10 is not on topic until it releases within the next few hours
[07:39] <tensorpudding> but you can rest assured it won't change in that time
[07:43] <stimpie> how can I start an  x application on top of my other applications from the command line?
[07:44] <Guest87159> sdfASDF
[07:44] <fmauro> stimpie: does executing the command from the terminal not do the trick?
[07:44] <Guest87159> jest tu jakiś polak
[07:44] <Vermicelli> Should I be worried about any of this? http://pastebin.com/N4Una0wj
[07:45] <stimpie> fmauro, it starts on top but it should remain on top. The 'always on top' property should be set.
[07:45] <tensorpudding> !pl | Guest87159
[07:45] <tensorpudding> oh, you left
[07:45] <SunTsu> Hi there
[07:45] <TehDGM> durka!
[07:45] <TehDGM> hey
[07:45] <fmauro> stimpie: ah got it, lemme think
[07:47] <Reave> Does anyone know what time today 11.10 is coming out? Or what Time zone Canonical runs off ?
[07:47] <Ty> It'll be out when the release manager says it is
[07:48] <Reave> Ty okay, was just wondering, im in Perth Australia and wasnt sure if there was a defined time that they release stuff or not
[07:49] <vsadevi> how do i know weather pulse ,alsa or jack is being used on my natty ubuntu  right now
[07:49] <fmauro> stimpie: how about wmctrl?
[07:49] <saadi> need a small favor, will offer something back as a gratitude... pm me please
[07:50] <shizzlej> #java
[07:51] <stimpie> fmauro, thats should do it.
[07:51] <Reave> Has anyone had any luck installing PHotoshop CS5 Extended in Ubuntu?? I know a few mon ths ago it wouldnt install, but i was wondering if anyone had found a work around
[07:52] <cristi-marineru> cs5 from wat y know does not worck on wine yet ....
[07:54] <kilon> hi there, what is the command for the terminal with which can search for a file even if it is hidden ?
[07:54] <ninjafish> Hey, is it just me or is all of google's services down?
[07:55] <ninjafish> Even their <IP_ADDRESS> dns isn't responding
[07:55] <ninjafish> or the android app market
[07:55] <ninjafish> Can anyone confirm?
[07:56] <TehDGM> ninjafish: no problems here
[07:56] <red> I set my systray-whitelist to ['all'] but none of my installed indicators appear - do I need to reboot?
[07:56] <ninjafish> TehDGM: are you in the US?
[07:56] <TehDGM> europe, netherlands
[07:56] <cristi-marineru> working
[07:56] <ninjafish> Are you able to ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:56] <cristi-marineru> :)) europe , Romania
[07:56] <TehDGM> pinging <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> replies in 9-10ms
[07:57] <ninjafish> Its not just my ISP, because I cant get to it from my phone either (which is on 3g)
[07:57] <vsadevi> how do I know weather pulse ,alsa or jack is currently being used by natty any command and how to switch between them
[07:58] <DannySeo> Hi, Anybody knows when ubuntu 11.10 official will be released?
[07:59] <spikebike> today!
[07:59] <DannySeo> Yes, but be soon? ;)
[07:59] <rigved> DannySeo: in a few hours
[08:00] <pis0ga> unity still used ??
[08:00] <DannySeo> unity is still in 11.10 beta.
[08:01] <cjs> I think the daily build of 11.10 I just installed on hdd1 may have wiped out and replaced the grub configuration on hdd0, making it now boot the OS from hdd1 rather than hdd0. Where do I talk about this, and any thoughts on how to fix it?
[08:01] <rigved> pis0ga: yes. but you can choose whichever Desktop Environment that you want.
[08:02] <red> Hi, I can click indicators in my right hand screen, but not left hand screen