[20:03] <cr3> is there a way to define my own kernel parameters to generate the pxelinux.cfg file returned by the maas tftp server?


[04:38] <xu-irc41w> hello, i recently installed xubuntu on an old samsung laptop and it keeps freezing on wake.
[04:38] <xu-irc41w> it looks like a screensaver problem, but the strange thing is i disabled that and it still runs.
[04:39] <xu-irc41w> it looks like the screensaver isn't able to get the display info
[04:45] <xu-irc41w> dk_monitor_get_scale_factor: assertion 'GDK_IS_MONITOR (monitor)' failed
[04:46] <xu-irc41w> (xfce4-screensaver:4867): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 00:16:42.335: invalid uninstantiatable type '<unknown>' in cast to 'GSWindow'
[05:08] <tomreyn> xu-irc41w: which ubuntu version is this?
[05:09] <xu-irc41w> one moment
[05:10] <xu-irc41w> 23.04
[05:11] <xu-irc41w> i just tried closing the lid while unplugged and the screen won't even re-engage.
[05:11] <tomreyn> can you run this in a terminal and hpost the url it prints?   env | grep DISPLAY | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:12] <xu-irc41w> ok
[05:13] <tomreyn> and what's the single line output of this?   journalctl -b | grep "DMI:"
[05:15] <tomreyn> generally, many systems have issues with return from suspend (you mentioned "sleep", which usually refers to that). bios updates help *sometimes*.
[05:15] <xu-irc41w> https://termbin.com/yqyy
[05:16] <tomreyn> oh just this one line, i see.
[05:16] <xu-irc41w> Oct 10 01:11:53 andrew-300V3A-300V4A-300V5A kernel: DMI: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. 300V3A/300V4A/300V5A/300V3A/300V4A/300V5A, BIOS 03FI 07/27/2011
[05:19] <tomreyn> this seems to be a samsung NP300V3A-A01
[05:19] <tomreyn> can you confirm the exact model?
[05:20] <xu-irc41w> sure
[05:21] <xu-irc41w> it's actually a np300v5a
[05:23] <tomreyn> there are different ones for this, you should see the exact model on a label on the bottom of the device. https://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/ to search for bios updates
[05:23] <xu-irc41w> it didn't occur to me to update the bios
[05:26] <tomreyn> an example for a complete model number is: NP305E7A-A02US
[05:27] <xu-irc41w> the download is a windows executable
[05:28] <tomreyn> hmm, yes, sadly
[05:31] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungBIOS
[05:35] <tomreyn> so this suggests the actual bios update is located at http://sbuservice.samsungmobile.com/upload/BIOSUpdateItem/ITEM_20130312_826_WIN_10FI.exe
[05:36] <tomreyn> still an .exe, of course
[05:39] <xu-irc41w> then i have to somehow install windows or something
[05:39] <xu-irc41w> maybe run it off of a flash drive?
[05:40] <tomreyn> not by itself, but it's possible that your currently installed bios setup has a routine to load this file from a fat32 formatted usb stick
[05:43] <xu-irc41w> it doesn't look like it
[05:43] <xu-irc41w> it looks like the bios is flashed from within windows
[05:43] <xu-irc41w> i'm guessing that i shouldn't try to do this through WiNE
[05:44] <tomreyn> no, you should not.
[05:45] <xu-irc41w> would i be able to connect an external hard drive and run install windows to that?
[05:45] <xu-irc41w> otherwise i'll have to buy another hard drive and swap it out temporarily
[05:46] <tomreyn> apparently the actual bios update files contained in the self-extracting archive are called "flashabl.rom" and "01JVM001.wph". it's a phoenix (company) bios
[05:47] <tomreyn> apparently there are some tools which can install windows to external media and make this bootable. i have not tried this recently.
[05:47] <tomreyn> maybe #windows can help there
[05:50] <tomreyn> rufus and isotousb seem to be two utilities which can do so
[05:53] <tomreyn> xu-irc41w: i'll have to leave for now - good luck!
[05:53] <xu-irc41w> ok, thank you for the help
[20:43] <xu-help22w> Hi ! Is there anyone here who can help me with an install on an IMac late 2009 ?
[20:47] <xu-help22w> Xubuntu is the only distro which allow me to go to the live session then installation process, but after reboot I have blank screen after the launch of Radeon driver… I can see grub to edit the nomodeset option…. I am lost….
[21:24] <xu-help46w> hello, i was here before asking for help with a screensaver error.  the solution suggested was a bios update, but i'm having a hell of a time getting a hold of a windows 7 iso to run the update program.  i need another option.
[21:24] <xu-help46w> the laptop is a np300v5a-a06us samsung
[21:25] <xu-help46w> dk_monitor_get_scale_factor: assertion 'GDK_IS_MONITOR (monitor)' failed
[21:25] <xu-help46w> (xfce4-screensaver:4867): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 00:16:42.335: invalid uninstantiatable type '<unknown>' in cast to 'GSWindow'
[21:25] <xu-help46w> is there another option here?  i really don't want to spend 200 dollars on an unsupported OS just to update firmware
[21:47] <tomreyn> xu-help46w: hi
[21:47] <tomreyn> there's a script for the upgrad eon linux that i found, let me find it again...
[21:47] <xu-help46w> really?
[21:49] <xu-help46w> so long as it doesn't brick the computer i'm all for it
[21:50] <tomreyn> you could try this: https://www.richud.com/wiki/Extract_Samsung_BIOS_WPH
[21:50] <tomreyn> if the file list in the end comes out similar to this, and the files are of similar size, then i'd not be too worried.
[21:50] <tomreyn> i'll try going through these steps here quickly
[21:55] <tomreyn> nope, this process doesn't work with your bios update
[21:55] <xu-help46w> well crap
[21:56] <xu-help46w> is there no other workaround? it's not detecting the display properly so when it wakes the display doesn't engage correctly
[21:58] <tomreyn> why were you looking for windows 7 specifically?
[22:08] <xu-help46w> that is what came with the computer originally
[22:09] <xu-help46w> and i have seen posts suggesting that windows 10 will not run the utility
[22:10] <xu-help46w> there is one other thing i might be able to try.  booting from usb works with any storage device right?
[22:10] <xu-help46w> i can create a portable install of my windows 10 system using wintousb on an external 1tb drive
[22:11] <xu-help46w> the samsung meets the absolute barest system requirements for running it.
[22:11] <xu-help46w> but i don't need it to do cartwheels
[22:23] <tomreyn> yes, you could try this. i imagine you might even be able to run the bios update from a booted windows installer
[22:23] <tomreyn> but then... i'm not 100% sure, since that's a "pre-boot environment" and some bis updates have a check for that and won't work there
[22:24] <tomreyn> but again, that's more a topic for #windows, i'm afraid
[22:24] <tomreyn> it's even thinkable it might work under freedos
[22:25] <tomreyn> but some of those .exe's contained in the packed .exe are windows gui applications
[22:25] <tomreyn> so that *could* mean it can only run on actual windows with a GUI.
[22:44] <xu-help46w> based on what videos i've found, they are GUI programs


[04:59] <_morphis> robru: ping
[05:00] <robru> _morphis: pong
[05:00] <_morphis> robru: is it possible we stack silos on top of another?
[05:00] <robru> _morphis: what are you trying to do?
[05:01] <_morphis> robru: I have a libhybris landing in progress which is a dependency for another silo
[05:01] <_morphis> but I would like to prepare both now
[05:01] <_morphis> rather than waiting until early/mid next week when the libhybris one lands
[05:01] <robru> _morphis: can you not just have one big silo?
[05:01] <_morphis> robru: no
[05:02] <_morphis> robru: we have to land this in three steps
[05:02] <_morphis> also use QA resources as best as possible
[05:02] <robru> _morphis: k, put the same MPs in all silos then
[05:03] <_morphis> robru: its a mixture of source packages (vivid only, dual landing) and MPs
[05:03] <_morphis> robru: so stacking silos on top of each other is not possible?
[05:03] <robru> _morphis: there is no way to stack silos, all that can be done is copy packages around
[05:04] <_morphis> aye
[05:05] <_morphis> robru: could you have a quick look at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-000-1-build/111/console
[05:05] <_morphis> it seems to fail with
[05:05] <_morphis> 2016-04-20 19:45:59,470 ERROR Build failed: Download failed: /var/lib/jenkins/silos/ubuntu/landing-000/vivid/network-manager/network-manager-<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <_morphis> but I removed networkmanager from the silo
[05:07] <_morphis> ah it seems to be back in the silo list
[05:07] <robru> _morphis: it comes back as a manual package because it's detected in the PPA
[05:08] <_morphis> robru: any way to solve that other than abandoning the silo and recreate it?
[05:08] <robru> Mirv: you around? _morphis needs some packages copied & deleted ^^
[05:09] <_morphis> robru: let me do it the easy way, I will create a new silo for this
[05:09] <robru> _morphis: wait
[05:09] <_morphis> ok
[05:10] <robru> _morphis: how many packages are in this silo? How wasteful is it too rebuild everything? Are you rebuilding everything anyway?
[05:10] <_morphis> yes
[05:10] <_morphis> robru: its silo 0
[05:10] <_morphis> its there since last year
[05:10] <robru> _morphis: oh if you're rebuilding everything anyway, just abandon and reassign the same request
[05:10] <_morphis> aye
[05:11] <Mirv> robru: ok
[05:11] <robru> _morphis: i can delete nm but it's 10pm is all
[05:11] <Mirv> robru: go, go, go!
[05:11] <robru> Oh it's Mirv yay
[05:11] <_morphis> robru: no problem!
[05:11] <Mirv> robru: to other activities, I mean
[05:11] <robru> OK goodnight guys
[05:11] <Mirv> goodnight robru
[05:12] <_morphis> robru: n8!
[05:14] <Mirv> _morphis: ok at least the network-manager should be now gone from 000 (both ticket and PPA), should you try again or what was the thing about copying packages?
[05:14] <_morphis> Mirv: thanks, but I will recreate the silo to get rid of all the hold shit still in there
[05:16] <Mirv> _morphis: ok, just ping whatver you need
[05:16] <_morphis> Mirv: thanks!
[05:25] <_morphis> Mirv: hm, there is one thing you can do
[05:25] <_morphis> Mirv: copying the libhybris packages from silo 6 to silo 46
[05:26] <_morphis> but leave silo 6 as it is
[05:29] <Mirv> _morphis: ok
[05:30] <_morphis> Mirv: thanks!
[05:30] <Mirv> ok, they are there
[05:37] <_morphis> Mirv: great!
[08:21] <dbarth> jibel, sil2100: i'm doing the emulator bug verification right now; will mark the silo asap
[08:22] <jibel> dbarth, okay
[08:22] <jibel> dbarth, the system partition on the emululator is pretty small, you may need to remove some packages
[08:32] <jibel> Saviq, _salem mentioned that AP tests of unity8 failed in silo 55 (telephony-service) Is it a known failure or flaky test?
[08:32] <jibel> Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/xenial/landing-055/excuses.html
[08:32] <jibel> and https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/055
[08:53] <rvr> jgdx: Silo 47 approved
[09:48] <seb128> mdeslaur, looks like bug #1572876 could be a regression from trusty samba security update
[09:48] <ubot5`> bug 1572876 in samba (Ubuntu) "After Samba upgrade can't access unpassworded windows share" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1572876
[09:49] <dbarth> jibel: I can't run the emulator properly here under vmware; i propose to run oxide 1.14.6 against regressions while you guys check the emulator fix itself
[09:49] <dbarth> (assuming you have a working emulator setup already)
[09:49] <dbarth> as to not block to long on that silo
[10:21] <jibel> dbarth, okay, not today though. A bit busy with the release of xenial right now
[10:23] <dbarth> jibel: oSoMoN just verified the fix for the emulator, so we'll be good for tomorrow for you
[10:24] <jibel> dbarth, great, can you approve the silo then so it'll appear on our board
[10:36] <oSoMoN> dbarth, I updated the test plan with my results, all good as far as I’m concerned
[11:02] <mdeslaur> seb128: yeah, thanks, there are a bunch of known interoperability issues with the samba badlock fix
[11:02] <seb128> mdeslaur, hey! wrong channel
[11:03] <seb128> mdeslaur, k, good to know ... is that an unfortunate but needed consequence or a bug?
[11:04] <mdeslaur> seb128: half of them are bugs that upstream hasn't fixed yet, half of them are unfortunate consequences that need config file changes to work with older devices or unpatched windows
[11:04] <seb128> k
[19:00] <tedg> Hello ubuntu-qa, I have a silo that doesn't seem to be getting to the trello board.
[19:01] <dobey> ?
[19:02] <dobey> tedg: the ual one? or pk one?
[19:02] <tedg> Yeah, the UAL one. Seems it failed automated signoff.
[19:02] <alesage> tedg hiya
[19:02] <tedg> Ah, this is ChrisTownsend's fault
[19:02] <dobey> tedg: yes, you have unsatisfiable binary dependencies
[19:02] <tedg> ChrisTownsend: How were you deping on xmir?
[19:02] <alesage> tedg I'll leave you to it :)
[19:03] <tedg> alesage: Thank you!
[19:03] <tedg> Oh, that's only on vivid too.
[19:03] <ChrisTownsend> tedg: I added 'xmir' to the packages Depends.
[19:04] <tedg> ChrisTownsend: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/vivid/landing-031/excuses.html
[19:04] <ChrisTownsend> tedg: I don't think that uses the overlay, so we need an exception.
[19:04] <dobey> tedg: well, not sure where the xenial autopkgtests are but probably same issue there
[19:04] <tedg> dobey: I think we fixed the deps so Mir is on those arches in xenial.
[19:04] <dobey> ChrisTownsend: problem is that xmir/mir isn't built on those archs
[19:05] <dobey> is it?
[19:05] <tedg> dobey: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/0.21.0+16.04.20160330-0ubuntu1
[19:05] <dobey> hmm, so it is
[19:06] <dobey> ah, and they are in the overlay too
[19:06] <ChrisTownsend> Well, xmir is part of xorg-server, but only ppc64el is not built.
[19:07] <dobey> oh no
[19:07] <dobey> so the error is correct
[19:08] <dobey> xmir only for amd64/armhf/i386 in overlay
[19:08] <dobey> and in xenial too
[19:08] <ChrisTownsend> Oh, I see that now too.
[19:09] <dobey> so you probably need to change the binary dep to "xmir [amd64 armhf i386]," to cheat and get by
[19:09] <tedg> Yeah :-/
[19:10] <dobey> or fix xmir to build on other archs too and deal with getting a new xorg-server build for both xenial and vivid in the overlay
[19:10] <ChrisTownsend> tedg: Yeah, what dobey said.
[19:10] <ChrisTownsend> I wouldn't hold my breath on getting xmir built for the other archs.
[19:11] <tedg> It was probably legacy from when mir only built on them.
[19:16] <dobey> ChrisTownsend: well, xorg builds on them, and mir does too, so i don't see why it couldn't be done :)
[19:17] <ChrisTownsend> dobey: It probably can.  bregma, care to follow up? ^^^^
[19:19]  * tedg wants a ppc64 tablet
[19:25] <bregma> ChrisTownsend, we've just never tested it and have no way of testing it, and don't really want the burden of maintenance for something there's been no request for until now (and that's only to satisfy 3rd party build deps), but there's no strong objection
[19:26] <ChrisTownsend> dobey: tedg: ^^^
[19:26] <tedg> robru: So I have a package that has never been in a repo, but I changed the name of. And somehow the build system keeps finding the old name. I can't figure where from though. Is there a cache or something on branch IDs?
[19:26] <tedg> robru: Specifically this should be policykit-unity8: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-053-1-build/41/console
[19:27] <robru> tedg: yes, there is a cache: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#Renaming_a_Source_Package
[19:28] <tedg> robru: Ah! Okay. Can you flush the cache for me? :-)
[19:28] <robru> tedg: yeah one sec
[19:30] <robru> tedg: ok it's flushed, try your build again
[19:31] <robru> tedg: train is also slightly on fire for other reasons, working on a fix, apologies if affects you
[19:32] <tedg> robru: Not sure, but it seems to list both packages. Is that an issue? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-053-1-build/42/console
[19:32]  * tedg is a firestarter!
[19:33] <bregma> some people just want to watch the train burn
[19:36] <robru> tedg: is policykit-unity8 the right name? or the old one?
[19:36] <tedg> That's the right one. Both were on the ticket for some reason, so I deleted the old.
[19:36] <tedg> Trying to build again without that.
[19:36] <AlbertA> robru: can you abort the ppa builds for https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-019/+packages?
[19:36] <dobey> bregma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE
[19:37] <robru> AlbertA: sure. was just trying to fix the train there
[19:40] <AlbertA> robru: thanks!
[19:40] <robru> AlbertA: yw. sorry for stepping on your toes there
[19:40] <AlbertA> robru: no worries, I need to update the mir branch anyway
[19:43] <tedg> robru: Okay, it seems to be working now, thanks!
[19:43] <robru> tedg: you're welcome!
[20:25] <robru> _morphis: ok, I think I fixed the issue you were seeing with unhandled exceptions on ticket 708, please try your build again (if necessary)
[21:40] <tedg> How long does automated signoff take?
[21:43] <dobey> tedg: depends on how long the autopkgtests take, for all that are triggered by the upload
[21:43] <tedg> Ah, I see.
[21:43] <dobey> tedg: and i think the thing that checks for status updates every 35 minutes or so
[21:44] <tedg> I was checking the status much more frequently than needed then :-)
[22:01] <AlbertA> robru: could you re-trigger the i386 build for mir/vivid: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-019/+packages
[22:05] <AlbertA> trainguards: or somebody that could trigger that ^
[22:08] <robru> AlbertA: done. Please ping trainguards first as I'm on sick leave, only intermittently available
[22:08] <AlbertA> robru: ack thanks!
[22:08] <robru> AlbertA: you're welcome
[22:09] <robru> tedg: dobey: the britney runs take 45-60 minutes depending on load
[22:11] <robru> That doesn't include autopkgtest time, that's just how long in between checks on autopkgtest progress


[21:43] <stevelitt> What's the latest on the Cups problem with invalid access on HP 4050's? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/998087
[21:43] <stevelitt> A couple nights ago an update started doing this to my Xubuntu 12.10 setup. I "fixed" it with lpadmin -p <printer> -o pdftops-renderer-default=pdftops, but still have problems with excessively light print and "must have Postscript 3" errors when trying to print certain postscript from evince.
[21:43] <stevelitt> Google seems to imply this got fixed a year ago, but I just got a bad update a few days ago.


[14:14] <popey> jdstrand: compare to k
[14:14] <popey> bah, ignore
[18:08] <Bren2K> QUESTION - In would like to convert to Linux.  Where is a good place to start?


[08:01] <Myrtti> gentsir == kwyjibo
[10:43] <Myrtti> Oh he was here
[10:43] <Myrtti> I didn't notice
[15:15] <Myrtti> !lubuntu
[16:23] <Myrtti> anyone talking to him?
[17:41] <bazhang> we don't negotiate with terrorists
 asadpakistani ,  go home ur drunk !
[17:56] <bazhang> not exactly stellar support advice
[19:51] <IdleOne> !notunity
[19:51] <bazhang> !natty
[19:52] <IdleOne> notunity is <reply> Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.
[19:52] <IdleOne> err
[19:52] <Pici> !
[19:53] <IdleOne> !no notunity is <reply> Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.
[21:14] <topyli> isn't fallback mode going away?
[21:14] <bazhang> yep
[21:14] <topyli> in 3.8 or so
[21:14] <bazhang> in 13.04 I thought
[21:15] <topyli> yeah i probably already happened in 3.6