[03:06] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Also if you have a windows cd you might beable to use that to get to the recovery console
[03:07] <isai> nope...those beep sound r perfect
[03:07] <nathan> if I install a ltsp server should I have a separate opt partition
[03:07] <elzo> EbilPhish: Okay, I'll try and apt-get ntfs-3g while using the LiveCD.  I can't get into the recovery console either way because I don't have the notebook's administrator password for the C:/
[03:07] <vocx> Ashfire908, "ln", read the manual page for more details "man ln"
[03:07] <koudelka_> beep sounds?
[03:07] <panosru> does anyone knows how to import rules from Microsoft Outlook 2007 to Evolution?
[03:07] <Ashfire908> vocx: regarding Lord_Licorice, any kernel errors should be put in /var/log/kern.log
[03:07] <Ashfire908> vocx: thanks
[03:07] <Psyber> does anyone know how to modify the gnome toolbar?
[03:08] <isai> hmmm.....yah like wen i press esc in vi or in de terminal
[03:08] <elzo> EbilPhish: so ntfs-3g is not by default on feisty?  Feisty's ntfs driver is basic huh?
[03:08] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Its possible the files are somehow encrypted, that might be a pain
[03:08] <koudelka_> Psyber: right click it?
[03:08] <dug> Psyber: right click and "add to panel" or right click existing item and delete
[03:08] <allorder> Hi everyone, I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 someone told me that to be able to launch a game I should do 32-Bit Chroot How-To, I did everything in the howto, before I had this error: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, now with chroot I got no more error and the game don't launch, any idea ?
[03:08] <vocx> Ashfire908, I don't think it was a kernel error. But I've read stories like his when apt suddenly breaks. I'd just reinstall.
[03:09] <EbilPhish> elzo:  The ntfs-config package uses ntfs-3g with fuse but its a pain when the drives arn't clean, ntfs is built into the kernel but is read only
[03:09] <elzo> EbilPhish: yup if it's encrypted then I'll forget it.  :)  But she just wants a copy somewhere first before her company help desk fixes.. she doesn't trust them or something ;)
[03:09] <isai> also, i cant get .exe files to run, wat do i do??i use wine....does ny1 else use wine?
[03:09] <EbilPhish> elzo:  If you only need 1 or 2 files then you might beable to use a foresic recovery program like autopsy
[03:09] <Ashfire908> what is the difference between a symbolic link and a hard link?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: so no point getting ntfs-3g right?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: if the live cd already have it
[03:10] <koudelka_> isai: what are you writing when you are starting .exe files with wine?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: i tried -t ntfs-3g and it says, type unknown
[03:10] <EbilPhish> elzo:  If you got ntfs-config then you probally have ntfs3g already
[03:10] <dug> Ashfire908: a hard link sort of makes 2 copies of the file.  a regular symlink is jsut a shortcut
[03:11] <EbilPhish> elzo:  hmm maybe it is seperate, try apt-get ntfs-3g then
[03:11] <Ashfire908> dug: huh?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> a hard link is identical to the original file. :) same file.. just has 2 names.
[03:11] <elzo> ebilphish: yup tried that, i think i need to add the repository to sources.list
[03:11] <Dr_willis> i recall taht from my Linux Kernel/Filesystems book.
[03:11] <EbilPhish> elzo:  ah yeh, and apt-get update
[03:11] <isai> i write --> $(etc@etcdesktop)wine e:\\turboc\\tc.exe
[03:11] <dug> Ashfire908: in terminal (under applications->accessories) type "man ln" to see some explanations
[03:11] <felipe_> hi
[03:11] <vocx> Ashfire908, yes, sounds strange. More info on hard links in wikipedia entry.
[03:11] <Ashfire908> dug: guess where i am
[03:12] <Psyber> does anyone in here know how to modify the gnome toolbar?
[03:12] <felipe_> someone know how can i run the kernel modules required for usb mass storage devices?
[03:12] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  Depends what you want to do with it
[03:12] <dug> Ashfire908: in a hard link, if the original file is gone, the hard link fails, with a symlink, the shortcut can still exist even though target file no longer does
[03:12] <koudelka_> isai: and nothing happens? or what does it say?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> felipe_,  you mean load them? they should be autoloading as needed. if not sudo modprobe Modulename
[03:13] <isai> Warning: unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls.
[03:13] <isai>          NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught.
[03:13] <isai> err:module:MZ_DoLoadImage insufficient DOS memory
[03:13] <isai> winevdm: can't exec 'E:\turboc\TC.exe': error=8
[03:13] <Psyber> EbilPhish: I want to modify the tool bar so "Places" and "System" are inside "Application"
[03:13] <isai> thats wat it says......
[03:13] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  It might be worth trying to install everything in the repos that looks like its part of compiz
[03:13] <Psyber> EbilPhish:  do you think that is possible?
[03:13] <felipe_> hi Dr_willis
[03:13] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, I think that some of the packages need to be updated.
[03:13] <koudelka_> isai: have you been in "winecfg"?
[03:14] <felipe_> Dr_willis: but can you wirte an example? :D
[03:14] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, if that doesn't work, i'm just going to remove it.
[03:14] <printk> dug: that's not true
[03:14] <tarelerulz> The vnc server on my network never do have a name and I am wanting to know  what I can do about that .
[03:14] <Dr_willis> felipe_,  sudo modprobe spiffymodule
[03:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:14] <isai> wats dat?
[03:14] <felipe_> ok
[03:14] <Ashfire908> dug if i sym linked a dir when i enter it would the directory show a change of where i am? (like if i sym linked folder1 and the link was folder2, would it show i'm in folder2 or folder1
[03:14] <felipe_> Dr_willis: i'll try
[03:14] <printk> dug: a hard link creates an exact copy, it's own inode and everything.  you delete the original file, the hard lin will still exist.  the file will still exist that is.  symlink is the one that disappears if you delete the o
[03:14] <printk> riginal file.
[03:14] <wastrel> Psyber:  remove the menu-bar applet and replace it with the "main menu" applet
[03:14] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  The Places and System are locked to the application menu as one giant widget. You can get replacement ones though
[03:15] <Dr_willis> hard link is not a 'copy' however.. it IS the original file.. with just 2 names..
[03:15] <koudelka_> isai: it's the wine config type winecfg in the terminal and check your settings. you probably want windows xp as your windows version if it isn't set as that
[03:15] <printk> Dr_willis: er that's it
[03:15] <Psyber> wastrel: how do I do that?
[03:15] <samri> g'evenin all
[03:15] <wastrel> Psyber:  right click on the panel and choose "add to panel"  in the search bar type "menu"
[03:15] <Dr_willis> I cant think of a case when you need hard links, over soft links.
[03:15] <isai> 1 sec..
[03:15] <Dr_willis> there may be some.. i just cant think of any. :)
[03:15] <wastrel> click on main menu and then the add button
[03:16] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, FIXED! Turns out that half of the packages were out of date. Should've seen that earilier. Now lets hope gnome-panel runs ok. :)
[03:16] <wastrel> then you can right-click on the old menu and choose remove from panel
[03:16] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, what do you want vnc to do?
[03:16] <felipe_> Dr_willis: it says:"FATAL: Module scsi not found." i did it in my personal folder in Konsole, is there a condition to use it?
[03:16] <wastrel> or vice versa i guess
[03:16] <dug> Ashfire908: i just tried it and ln doesn't let you hard link a directory, you can only sym link.  I changed to the symlinked directory, and it had the symlinked name, not the original name in the path
[03:16] <isai> hey, i have vista, but dont c the option....do i clik on xp?
[03:17] <tarelerulz> ckin2001, I just want it so I can control my other computer .
[03:18] <koudelka_> isai: you just select the windows version you want on that list in the "Applications" tab
[03:18] <vocx> isai, just remember that some windows programs, some .exes, won't work with wine no matter what, most probably because you lack libraries dll and stuff.
[03:18] <samri> can anyone recommend an app that would organize music?
[03:18] <Psyber> wastrel: cool... thanks
[03:18] <printk> Dr_willis: only example i can think of is if the original filename is predicted to be changed.  In which case a hard link would not break, where as a soft would (?)
[03:18] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you can do it by ip or by hostname, if the first pc knows the hostname of the second
[03:18] <isai> well, then forget it
[03:18] <Ashfire908> dug: okay thanks. would you happen to know where i could learn about making shell scripts?
[03:18] <dug> samri: banshee, rhythmbox, muine...
[03:18] <HotdogWater> i have a question about usb HDDs. when I plug it in, i can't access it unless i re-start Xorg
[03:19] <ShackJack> Hi - I'm probably missing something simple, but I have a second hard drive formatted and mounted to it, but my regular user account has no permissions to write anything to it. Something else I need to add to fstab?
[03:19] <HotdogWater> any way around that?
[03:19] <tarelerulz> chin2001, how  do I get the second computer to know the host name ?
[03:19] <Ashfire908> HotdogWater: huh. you try mounting it?
[03:19] <isai> im still not able to play my muzic
[03:19] <dug> Ashfire908: I don't know of a specific tutorial.  I think ubuntu uses bash, so here are some bash tutorials: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bash+tutorial&btnG=Search
[03:19] <HotdogWater> yeah
[03:19] <HotdogWater> i've tried mounting it
[03:19] <wastrel> bash yes
[03:19] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you should add the hostname / ip address to /etc/hosts
[03:19] <tarelerulz> From installing vnc it seem like the name it gives you should just work.  It never does and I am lost as to way
[03:19] <HotdogWater> it bitches about it not existing in fstab, which it doesn't
[03:19] <samri> Thanks dug
[03:20] <vocx> ShackJack, add the uid=1000 or gid=1000 options. Do you want to paste your fstab?
[03:20] <wastrel> HotdogWater:  add it to fstab 100%
[03:20] <vocx> !language | HotdogWater
[03:20] <ubotu> HotdogWater: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:20] <wastrel> nvm
[03:20] <HotdogWater> sorry
[03:20] <ShackJack> vocx: I'll paste the one line :) - UUID=e7e3c83c-55c3-4535-844f-3c38f64f84d7 /media/Secondary ext3 defaults 0 0
[03:20] <tarelerulz> ckin2001 , what if the ip changes you put into the /etc/hosts ?
[03:21] <HotdogWater> my B my B
[03:21] <ShackJack> vocx: I didn't see those options with my /home dir so was following that as an example...
[03:21] <tinman47> Hey somebody! Need help with a BASH script.
[03:21] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you can either setup static ip on the box before putting it in /etc/hosts or you can setup dns to be updated with that hostname
[03:21] <felipe_> tinman47: i think that i can help you
[03:21] <ckin2001> Taranis, static ip is a little easier
[03:21] <ckin2001> eek
[03:21] <felipe_> tinman47: just ask :)
[03:21] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, static ip is a little easier
[03:21] <tinman47> oh thanx
[03:21] <samri> do any of the available music organizers delete low-rated music? I have GB's of crap music. (thx again dug)
[03:22] <tinman47> Sorry, a little new at this
[03:22] <wastrel> samri:  if you find one let me know
[03:22] <samri> doh
[03:22] <Psyber> wastrel: crap... is there a way to place the new menu widget within the panel?
[03:22] <tarelerulz> ckin2001 , do you know of a link to tell you how to set up dns to be upaded with that hostname ?
[03:22] <crysi1> hey guys, I mounted a partition with "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd", but now I wanna make it writable too. can anyone help me?
[03:23] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis?
[03:23] <felipe_> tinman47: me too :D
[03:23] <felipe_> xD
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice, ??
[03:23] <wastrel> Psyber:  you can middle-click on it to drag it around or right click, select move and then drag it around
[03:23] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, i do not, maybe lookup something on named
[03:23] <vocx> ShackJack, try "defaults,uid=1000"  and maybe the last two columns "0 2"
[03:23] <tinman47> Yeah, uh I kinda got a hard to manage script.
[03:23] <Lord_Licorice> k, i went and tried to write it  all down
[03:23] <wastrel> or you can add another one where you want it and remove the one that's in the wrong place
[03:23] <tinman47> felipe_
[03:23] <felipe_> ?
[03:23] <tinman47> LOL How do I talk to a seperate person?
[03:24] <Lord_Licorice> before i finished it went into one of those endless error things where it just has a number on the left that keeps getting higher, said, port_status failed, error -32, something to that nature, and port 8 resume error -110
[03:24] <printk> tinman47: by agreeing on a common langague and then one talks while the other listens? :)
[03:24] <felipe_> just type the first letters and press <tab> button
[03:24] <tinman47> o.o
[03:24] <ShackJack> vocx: I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,..." etc...
[03:24] <tinman47> Okay,Does it work?
[03:24] <tinman47> no!
[03:24] <crysis> !umask
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <tinman47> -_-'
[03:25] <Lord_Licorice> before it started that, it said, 'found file system with errors, auto fsck failed, run fsck in maintenece shell, read only, then it says it's loading that, and that the drive's in read only, then it gives me some bash errors, 'no job control, command 'groups' cannot be found
[03:25] <felipe_> if you type "f" with tab you'll navigate between all the people with their name startin with F
[03:25] <tarelerulz>  ckin2001 , thanks for the point in the right direction .   I have been wanting to do this since I found out about vnc  plus it would help when I have a vnc server on my windows computer .
[03:25] <Lord_Licorice> and then it went off by itself into that error cycle, i don't know what it's called
[03:25] <felipe_> is you do: "fe" all the people with "fe"
[03:25] <Psyber> wastrel:  You rock  Thanks a bunch man
[03:25] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, no problem, good luck with it - i got lazy and just set static ips here :p
[03:25] <usser> ckin2001: hehe same here
[03:25] <tinman47> This is freakin anoyin...
[03:26] <felipe_> tinman47: is theres only a person to navigate, the name will be typed automatically
[03:26] <vocx> crysis, you can read NTFS without problems, but to write you need "ntfs-3g"
[03:26] <theATOM> how can i chane permissions on a file belonging to one of my users?
[03:26] <usser> theATOM: by using chmod with root priviligies
[03:26] <dug> theATOM: put "sudo" before the command you use, like "sudo chmod 755 thefile"
[03:26] <theATOM> usser:  how?
[03:26] <usser> theATOM: sudo chmod
[03:26] <theATOM> ok
[03:26] <tinman47> well felipe_ ... I got this big script. Like 8KB and its not working...
[03:27] <tinman47> Can I like send it?
[03:27] <Lord_Licorice> does that help, dr_willis?
[03:27] <dug> heh
[03:27] <theATOM> sudo chmod 755 thefile didnt work
[03:27] <Psyber> hum a few more nights like this and I might be able to fully switch to linux
[03:27] <dug> change thefile with the actual file name and path
[03:27] <who1> hey, i cant get my muzic to work
[03:27] <who1> im new so cud som1 pl help me
[03:28] <theATOM> sudo chmod 755 filename  <--  doestnt work.  still belongs to my user
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  sounds like you need to boot the live cd, and use 'sudo fsck /dev/hd#### where ### is the right letter and # for your linux isntalled system.
[03:28] <theATOM> any1 kniw proper command?
[03:28] <ambrose_> why cant ur music work
[03:28] <jrib> theATOM: chown  to change ownership
[03:28] <tinman47> Is anyone good at shell scripts?
[03:28] <crysis> what should I set 'umask' to if I want write support in a partition?
[03:28] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video, any suggestions on what to trouble shot?
[03:28] <vuSti-Monogami> Driver		"nv" is what i have in my xorg.conf right now. If i try changing to nvidia driver by enabling the restricted drivers i get an error. I have previously manually installed the nvidia drivers given on nvidia.com but wanted to use those that came with ubuntu instead.
[03:28] <ambrose_> is the sound ok
[03:28] <who1> CAN ANY1 PL HELP ME???
[03:28] <Psyber> who1 what do u need?
[03:28] <theATOM> jrib: sudo chown?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  some how it seems your filesystem got currupted.
[03:29] <who1> I CANT PLAY NY MUZIC.........................
[03:29] <ckin2001> crysis, i think its 0022
[03:29] <jrib> theATOM: sure
[03:29] <vuSti-Monogami> They seem to have corrupted my nvidia Driver
[03:29] <printk> !ask who1
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask who1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <crysis> thanks
[03:29] <vocx> theATOM, your original question was not stated clearly hence the confusion.
[03:29] <vuSti-Monogami> Can i reinstall it somehow ?
[03:29] <printk> !ask > who1
[03:29] <dug> theATOM: "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename"
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> Dr, it happened after i tried using a windows ext3 reader
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: what the coommand?  sudo chown filename?
[03:29] <tinman47> where did felipe_ go?
[03:29] <jrib> theATOM: read 'man chown'
[03:29] <crysis> who1, did u launch the music files and it didn't play them?
[03:29] <who1> MY MP3 ALL OF A SUDDEN DONT SEEM 2 BE WORKING
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  BEEN there.. seen that happen.. windows crashed and dident properly close out/unmount the linux filesystem.
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: no
[03:29] <SlimeyPete> who1: please don't shout
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> so is there anything i can do
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: is that your reply to pppl?  go read man
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> short of reformatting
[03:30] <jrib> theATOM: suit yourself.  I don't mind helping people, but they have to at least try to read the documentation
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  i find it safer to use that tool in windows.. give the linux drive a letter. do the work.. then remove the letter.
[03:30] <tarelerulz> What are you playing you mp3 with who1 ?
[03:30] <tinman47> clear
[03:30] <who1> IT SAYS ITS PLAYING BUT NO OUTPUT MUZIC
[03:30] <crysis> who1, ohh
[03:30] <printk> who1: 1) no caps  2) calm down, or everyone will just ignore you  b)  Be specific, what apps are you using.  what sound card do you have?  Is the kernel recongizing your sound card?
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> Dr, that's what i did
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> it never worked though
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  boot live cd. use  sudo fsck /dev/hd## like i suggested
[03:30] <dug> theATOM: take it easy, see my earlier post
[03:30] <dug> theATOM: "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename"
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> you suggested that?
[03:30] <crysis> who1, play around with the sound settings (double click the speaker icon)
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> haha, i never saw
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> okay lets see
[03:30] <who1> i have no clue, and sorry bt the rage....:(
[03:30] <vocx> !who > Lord_Licorice
[03:30] <who1> i did
[03:30] <theATOM> sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename   <--- doesnt work.  still belongs to m,y user
[03:30] <printk> who1: have no clue about what?  your hardware?
[03:31] <who1> yup
[03:31] <Dr_willis> we need a 'esp' module. :)
[03:31] <who1> im totally new to linux
[03:31] <crysis> go to file --> change device, maybe that will help
[03:31] <printk> who1: well that's important.  if you want to trouble shoot your issues, you need to know what you have.
[03:31] <phoenix24> I added a task to crontab.. but that doesn't seem to schedule :(
[03:31] <jrib> theATOM: did you change "yourusername" to your username?
[03:31] <theATOM> dug:  doesnt work
[03:31] <theATOM> jrib:  OF COURSE
[03:31] <dug> theATOM: tell me again what you want to do?
[03:31] <theATOM> dodint change it
[03:31] <who1> hmm, how do i kno, wat audio device i use
[03:31] <jrib> theATOM: and what does 'ls -ld filename' return now?
[03:31] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis: , how do i know what to put in place of ##
[03:31] <theATOM> dug:  i want to own the file
[03:31] <EbilPhish>
[03:31] <ambrose_> dude ur sound doesnt work?
[03:31] <Lord_Licorice> it said it was hd5 on the partition menu but
[03:32] <ambrose_> or is it ur music
[03:32] <who1> i use an ext hardware for ubntu
[03:32] <printk> who1: i suggest install 'alsa-tools' by issuing 'sudo apt-get install alsa-tools' then running alsaconf to make sure your proper soundcard module is loaded.
[03:32] <phoenix24> how can I add a task to cron ?
[03:32] <printk> who1: is it a usb sound card?
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hd5
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[03:32] <jrib> !cron > phoenix24 (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:32] <jrib> !paste | Lord_Licorice
[03:32] <ubotu> Lord_Licorice: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <Kazero> Heres an offtopic question: Anyone know of a free burning program for windows? I have the ISO and my copy of nero doesnt detect my burner. I want ubuntu!
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> oh sorry jrib
[03:32] <who1> hmmm, nope
[03:32] <jrib> !burn > Kazero (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:33] <CNW8835> I'm having a problem using an HP Officejet 4315 in Ubuntu
[03:33] <Psyber> wastrel:  got another question for ya, is there a way to modify the size of the icons w/in the menu widget?
[03:33] <Kazero> jrib: Problem is, those are for ubuntu >.<
[03:33] <who1> printk: how do i chek it?
[03:33] <wastrel> Psyber:  i don't think so
[03:33] <dixon2> usser: i have a perl script the does ogg2mp3 I could send it if you want to try modifying it
[03:33] <printk> who1: try running alsaconf to pick your sound card.  also, did you install any codes to play mp3 files?  Ubuntu can't play mp3 by default
[03:33] <jrib> Kazero: no, read the page
[03:33] <theATOM> it worked, but i had to reboot
[03:33] <printk> who1: can you play any sound at all?  Just not mp3?
[03:33] <tinman47> one help me...
[03:33] <usser> dixon2: nice please do
[03:33] <theATOM> unless i rebooted. the ownership didnt change
[03:33] <who1> printk: ohhhhhhhhhh
[03:33] <tinman47> help
[03:33] <Psyber> wastrel:  bummer... thanx anyay
[03:33] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis: how do i make sure i have the right hd #
[03:34] <avt3kk> guys is there a dj mixing software thats free for ubuntu?
[03:34] <tinman47> HELP
[03:34] <ShackJack> When I type mount I get /dev/sdb1 on /media/Secondary type ext3 (rw)   < Shouldn't a regular user be able to write to /media/Secondary?
[03:34] <vocx> !helpme | tinman47
[03:34] <ubotu> tinman47: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:34] <dug> printk: I installed alsa-tools, but there is no alsaconf command (i do have alsaguimixer tho)
[03:34] <usser> dixon2: whomgm AT gmail DOT com
[03:34] <avt3kk> linux dj
[03:34] <dug> alsamixergui i mean
[03:34] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video, any suggestions on what to trouble shot?
[03:34] <avt3kk> any ideas guys
[03:34] <printk> !restrictedformats > who1
[03:34] <Xero> Some guy keeps using my nick and I'm tired of ghosting him.
[03:34] <tinman47> Okay, uh can someone help me with an 8 KB BASH Script?
[03:34] <who1> printk: of course, i can hear beep sounds......
[03:35] <avt3kk> !dj
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dj - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <avt3kk> lol
[03:35] <dug> avt3kk: let me check, i know there has to be some
[03:35] <ckin2001> Xero, register with nickserv
[03:35] <jrib> tinman47: it's best to just pastebin your script, and state what the issue is.  Also, you may want to try #bash
[03:35] <avt3kk> ty Dug :)
[03:35] <printk> who1: follow the link ubotu sent you regarding restricted formats, it tells you how to install the proper codecs for mp3 and others
[03:35] <tinman47> K...
[03:35] <Xero> ckin2001, I said I'm tired of ghosting him, which is a Nickserv command.
[03:35] <Xero> This name is Nickserv registered.
[03:35] <ckin2001> Xero, oops sorry
[03:35] <who1> hmmm, i dint get any?????
[03:35] <printk> !restrictedformats
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <printk> who1: ^^
[03:35] <tinman47> Is #bash like another IRC channel?
[03:36] <printk> tinman47: like yes
[03:36] <Xero> yes.
[03:36] <wastrel> Xero:  turn on the nick protection thing
[03:36] <tinman47> like thanx -_-'
[03:36] <jj3666> are new versions of ubuntu still based on debian or is it a complete fork now?
[03:36] <who1> thanx
[03:36] <Lord_Licorice> you there willis?
[03:36] <printk> jj3666: debian always and forever
[03:36] <who1> ill try it out.....
[03:36] <crysis> hey guys, I ran "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0022 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd" but write support still doesn't work
[03:36] <dug> avt3kk: so far i just see djplay: http://djplay.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <jrib> jj3666: based on debian
[03:36] <avt3kk> thankyou Dug :D
[03:37] <jj3666> thx all
[03:37] <wastrel> ntfs write needs extra work
[03:37] <CNW8835> Hi.  I'm having a problem using an HP Officejet 4315 in Ubuntu.  Basically when I print something, the margins are messed up.  The text runs all the way to and beyond the margin, disappearing.  Adjusting the margins doesn't seem to work, just changes where the text disappears on the page.
[03:37] <vocx> ShackJack, oh that's right, check the permissions on the mount point /media/Secondary. I believe only users within the specified group can write to it. Did you use the uid or gid options?
[03:37] <kurtoba> avt3kk: 'mixxx'
[03:37] <tinman47> printk_ its not workin...
[03:37] <crysis> wastrel: what do u mean?
[03:37] <Xero> wastrel, Kill protection is disabled on this network
[03:37] <Xero> That's the message i get from Nickserv.
[03:37] <wastrel> shows what i know
[03:37] <avt3kk> mixxx?
[03:37] <asc> Could somebody recommend a PCI or PCI-E gigabit ethernet card that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[03:37] <dug> avt3kk: i also see dbmix and mixxx, i was trying to find this blog that has a lot about dj software, can't remember url or name now tho
[03:38] <gnurph> anybody have experience installing "Windows Wireless Drivers" and can point me in the right direction?
[03:38] <anonymeeee> are there any pre installed dvd players on this box?
[03:38] <ShackJack> vocx: DOH - I was just thinking that - no I just sudo mkdir /media/Etc... Should I just make that folder so everyone can read/write?
[03:38] <koudelka_> avt3kk: i googled and found this, http://www.ubuntuessentials.net/2007/07/17/ultramixer-professional-digital-dj-solution-linux-version/
[03:38] <donferna> !ndiswrapper
[03:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:38] <koudelka_> it might be of interest
[03:38] <Xero> I'm an op in #bash
[03:38] <usser> asc: pretty much any card will work, I never had problems with realtek
[03:38] <vocx> Xero, complain to Freenode staff not us.
[03:38] <crysis> hey guys, I ran "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0022 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd" but write support still doesn't work
[03:38] <Lord_Licorice> how do you find out the name of your linux partition
[03:38] <kurtoba> avt3kk: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/
[03:38] <Lord_Licorice> for fsck
[03:38] <dug> avt3kk: here's the blog, but i guess it's more about vj'ing and not just about linux: http://www.createdigitalmotion.com/
[03:39] <crysis> Lord, I think it's 'fdisk -l'
[03:39] <phoenix24> jrib: There does'nt exist a cron.allow or cron.deny on my Ubuntu. Is that a fault ?
[03:39] <vocx> ShackJack, not everyone, just the group you want. Maybe you want all.
[03:39] <ShackJack> vocx: Like users, then?
[03:39] <asc> usser: All right, thanks.
[03:39] <anonymeeee> can someone tell me how to play dvd's with ubuntu?
[03:39] <vocx> !ntfs-3g | crysis You need this
[03:39] <ubotu> crysis You need this: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:39] <jrib> phoenix24: you just need to do 'crontab -e' and edit your user's crontab.  I don't have a cron.allow or cron.deny either
[03:39] <printk> !restrictedformats > anonymeeee
[03:40] <progek> I'm having problems connecting to networks with Frostwire, Limewire and GTK-gnutella. This just happened all of a sudden. The problem lies on my desktop, my laptop which also has ubuntu can still connect fine so it's not my ISP. I don't have a firewall installed, and my desktop (with the problems) is set under my routers DMZ zone. Any ideas? :/ I have tried reinstalling frostwire + limewire, also deleting the pref folders .frostwire etc
[03:40] <anonymeeee> !dvd
[03:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:40] <Zeus_> does anyone know where i can get a copy of the original xorg.conf file?
[03:40] <Zeus_> i was playing, broke it, and now my gdm wont start
[03:40] <vocx> !xconfig | Zeus_
[03:40] <ubotu> Zeus_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:40] <jrib> !xconfig > Zeus_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:41] <vocx> jrib, ha faster
[03:41] <printk> Zeus_: the bacup you made .  if you not you gota reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:41] <jrib> vocx: :)
[03:41] <progek> I've also tried older versions of frostwire and my java JRE is currently set to java6 (from sun)
[03:41] <Zeus_> cheers
[03:41] <Zeus_> will try that
[03:41] <dug> CNW8835: if you haven't already, install the hplip software for better hp printing support: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/
[03:41] <avt3kk> look at this: http://www.karlklomp.nl/pro/vbend.html
[03:41] <avt3kk> hehe
[03:42] <Eighties2> what is this damn ultimate ubuntu I seen on distro watch?
[03:42] <vocx> progek, try using java5. It may work, who knows.
[03:42] <CNW8835> dug: yeah, that's what I am using
[03:42] <progek> vocx, thanks but tried it
[03:42] <Xero> !ultimate
[03:42] <progek> I also installed a spare wireless card
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ultimate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <dug> CNW8835: what program are you printing from?
[03:42] <Xero> Crap.
[03:42] <CNW8835> dug: evince
[03:42] <progek> thinking something was wrong with my ethernet cards
[03:42] <progek> nada
[03:42] <progek> it's strange
[03:42] <dug> CNW8835: oh yeah, i had MANY problems printing pdfs.  I finally installed the Adobe pdf reader (acroread)
[03:43] <progek> never happened to me before, and I've been using ubuntu since breezy
[03:43] <progek> currently running feisty
[03:43] <CNW8835> dug: ok, I'll try that and see what happens
[03:43] <linxeh> acroread is the only way to get decent PDF support
[03:43] <CNW8835> dug: thanks, btw
[03:44] <linxeh> even Apple's PDF support on OSX is flawed on complex pdfs, or many created from Ubuntu and other distros
[03:44] <crysis> vocx: I already have ntfs-3g, but when I go to the 'ntfs configuration tool', the box to enabled internal write support is greyed out
[03:44] <EbilPhish> linxeh:  evinice (default pdf) works great for me, better than the offical acro reader
[03:44] <dug> yeah i would print out 2 to a sheet, and evince would make really really teeny text
[03:44] <progek> when I run frostwire, it says 'starting connection' but never does
[03:45] <avt3kk> so mixxx is one download?
[03:45] <avt3kk> not 3
[03:45] <vocx> crysis, Personally I haven't used it. But make sure you unmount the drive before running the configuration tool, since it needs to be remounted with the ntfs-3g driver.
[03:45] <avt3kk> like djplay
[03:45] <wastrel> progek:  i think there's a problem with compiz and java6
[03:45] <linxeh> EbilPhish: evince fails on quite a few pdfs, especially those with complex graphics
[03:45] <dug> avt3kk: go to system->administration->synaptic package manager and you can install mixxx from there
[03:45] <wastrel> progek:  limewire won't even start on my box
[03:45] <rdvon> Hello, Is their an ipconfig /all equivalent in linux? :)
[03:45] <MotivationNow> hey im trying to backup my amarok database with http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo#Automatic_Backups           but i have no idea how to run a bash script.  anyone know whats going on? im getting an error that  that permission is denied when i try to run it from the terminal
[03:45] <wastrel> rdvon:  ifconfig
[03:45] <crysis> vocx: I did unmount it before trying to remount
[03:45] <Xero> wastrel, I use compiz and java6...
[03:46] <Xero> and even Frostwire.
[03:46] <Xero> I have no problems.
[03:46] <progek> wastrel thanks, well when I run something like beryl frostwire does not show because the java Swing API has some issue on some machines
[03:46] <rdvon> wow! a one letter difference! thanks!
[03:46] <wastrel> Xero:  i mean with limewire dunno from frostwire
[03:46] <progek> but I'm just using standard gnome
[03:46] <vocx> crysis, well reboot! It works too in Linux.
[03:46] <avt3kk> ook ty Dug :)
[03:46] <Random832> will gnome run an .Xmodmap file when i log in, or an .xsession or the like?
[03:46] <crysis> vocx: i can't reboot, i'm on live
[03:46] <Badpenguin86> How much more power from a laptop does compiz take? Will it kill my batery life?
[03:46] <Xero> Frostwire is basically a free, legal version o limewire pro.
[03:46] <progek> the application shows fine, just has some connection trouble
[03:46] <wastrel> i know what it is, just don't use it
[03:46] <wastrel> heh
[03:46] <EbilPhish> Hopefully the new MARS stuff from adobe help fix PDF (its some kind of open xml pdf spec) http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/mars/
[03:47] <rdvon> How do I figure out things like my gateway, subnet mask,  dns and such?
[03:47] <Random832> EbilPhish: is it a good xml standard, or is it like Office Proprietary XML?
[03:47] <asc> BaD-Laptop: It's probably safe to say that it doesn't decrease power use.
[03:47] <asc> er
[03:47] <asc> Badpenguin86*
[03:47] <avt3kk> brb
[03:47] <vocx> rdvon, "ifconfig" and "iwconfig"
[03:47] <asc> rascally tabbed completion
[03:48] <panosru> does anyone knows what i need to download from linux DC++?
[03:48] <ShackJack> Can anyone tell me how to make it so my second mounted hard drive is read writable? Is there something I have to do to the media mount point?  Tried changing permissions, ownership, etc...
[03:48] <panosru> i have ports opend from router
[03:48] <jrib> ShackJack: what filesystem?
[03:48] <crysis> vocx: I can't reboot cause I'm in a live session. any alternatives?
[03:48] <Zeus_> ok, this reconfig is going to reset too many settings... how do i cancel it so i can try fixing the xorg.conf file directly ?
[03:48] <rdvon> vocx: sorry, I was looking in the wrong place. Didn't mean to ask the same question again :)
[03:48] <ShackJack> jrib: Ext3 -- according to mount it is readwritable - /dev/sdb1 on /media/Secondary type ext3 (rw)
[03:48] <rdvon> I've got it now.
[03:49] <MotivationNow> panosru, get automatrix
[03:49] <EbilPhish> Random832:  Looks to be a good one but there hasn't been much discussion on it, PDF is apparently an open standard now toonow too
[03:49] <jrib> ShackJack: you need to set the permissions appropriately.  What does 'ls -ld /media/Secondary' return now?
[03:49] <Zeus_> ctrl-c / ctrl-x doesnt seem to work.
[03:49] <stdin> ShackJack: see what the permissions are, ls -ld /media/Secondary
[03:49] <wastrel> rdvon:  route   will give you the gateway  (the "default")
[03:49] <vocx> ShackJack, if everything fails, and you have a good fstab, reboot!
[03:49] <vocx> crysis, I'm out of answers...
[03:49] <stdin> panosru: *don't* get automatix
[03:49] <crysis> vocx: ok, thanks anyway
[03:49] <crysis> EbliFish: can you help me with ntfs-3g? I installed it, but when I go to the 'ntfs configuration tool', the box to enabled internal write support is greyed out
[03:49] <stdin> MotivationNow: don't tell people to use that
[03:50] <rdvon> wastrel: it gives me an * symbol under gateway..
[03:50] <MotivationNow> stdin,  why?
[03:50] <stdin> !automatix | MotivationNow
[03:50] <ubotu> MotivationNow: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:50] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Can you do it manually on the console
[03:50] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin drwxrwxr-x 3 nate nate 4096 2007-09-15 21:36 /media/Secondary/
[03:50] <jake111> Hello people.  Does anyone know if ther is some kind of FAQ or something on connecting to the Internet?  I've tried Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, and Damn Small Linux, all on three different computers, and none of them recognize any of my network adaptors.
[03:50] <n3tfury> automatrix is rubbish
[03:50] <wastrel> rdvon:  default gateway's not set then :]
[03:50] <vocx> crysis, also mention that you are on live cd
[03:50] <panosru> well i get it work ok! I though that i need to open the ports from the system to like in windows, but i have no firewall so i'm cool :P
[03:50] <EbilPhish> crysis: mount -t /dev/whatever /media/somedir ntfs-3g
[03:50] <crysis> vocx: ok
[03:50] <panosru> thanks ;)
[03:50] <stdin> ShackJack: and what happens when you try to write to it?
[03:50] <rdvon> wastrel: how do i set it? in the knetwork manager? :]
[03:51] <ShackJack> stdin: Nautilus says no perms... thogh i can as root...
[03:51] <mohamed_> !sound
[03:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:51] <EbilPhish> crysis: that should be 'mount /dev/whatever /media/somedir -t ntfs-3g'
[03:51] <wastrel> rdvon:  sudo route add default gw <gateway address>     dunno from kde
[03:51] <jrib> ShackJack: press the "reload" button in nautilus
[03:52] <rdvon> wastrel: hmm... What's a good gate way?
[03:52] <wastrel> rdvon:  the one for your network :]    usually the .1 address
[03:52] <Yasumoto_> jake111: are you connecting using wireless or a wired ethernet connection?
[03:53] <stdin> rdvon: the gateway is your router (if you have one) or you're ISP will assign one
[03:53] <rdvon> this is all new to me. sorry! :]
[03:53] <wastrel> rdvon:  ex: my ip is <IP_ADDRESS>  my gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:53] <crysis> EbilPhish: I tried "sudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd -t ntfs-3g" but it wasn't correct, they say
[03:53] <EbilPhish> crysis: remove the first -t
[03:53] <CNW8835> ok, acroread did the same thing as evince (it didn't adjust the size of the document properly to fit within the printer margins) even with the "reduce to fit within printer margins" option enabled
[03:53] <tarelerulz> when you run a vnc  name looking like mycomputer:0  ,but when I put that into a vnc client I can't connect to that come  ,but the ip works
[03:53] <geekberg> Im a reformed Windows user, Im proficient with dos and windows command line, but new to terminal.  How can I end apps that are not responding, like Firefox?
[03:53] <crysis> EbilPhish: ok
[03:53] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I've tried both
[03:53] <rdvon> wastrel: it says network unreachable!
[03:54] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: I think I got it - directory wasnt chmodded to 777... I changed owner back to root and group to users - does that sound right?
[03:54] <wastrel> rdvon:  are you trying to ping it?
[03:54] <bulmer> geekberg: you find its pid via ps -aux and then kill -15 thatpid
[03:54] <EbilPhish> geekberg:  Click the x a bunch of times and it should give you a popup, or ALT+f2 and "xkill" then click on the thing you want to kill
[03:54] <Yasumoto_> jake111: wow. how old are your computers?
[03:54] <rdvon> wastrel: i typed this: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:54] <jrib> ShackJack: well, both ways should work
[03:54] <tyvek> geekberg: killall -9 firefox-bin
[03:54] <jake111> One is new this year - one is about 6 years old, and one is over ten years old
[03:55] <juannicolas> hello, I'm trying to setup a VPN server with pptp usign webmin, can someone help me or give me an url with a step to?
[03:55] <stdin> ShackJack: it'd normally be root:root, but if you set it 777 then it doesn't matter
[03:55] <jake111> I was really suprised when the new computer couldn't get online
[03:55] <rdvon> wastrel: it says word for word: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[03:55] <wastrel> geekberg:  there's also pgrep and pkill  (use pkill with care )
[03:55] <Yasumoto_> jake111: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-out-what-driver-my-ethernet-card-is-using/
[03:55] <bulmer> juannicolas: google.com :)
[03:55] <juannicolas> :(
[03:55] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: SOrry don't follow both ways -- what *should* the ownership and permissions be for /media/Secondary?
[03:55] <juannicolas> im tired of google
[03:55] <crysis> EbilPhish: this is what it outputs "Volume is scheduled for check. Please boot into Windows TWICE, or
[03:55] <crysis> use the 'force' mount option."
[03:56] <wastrel> rdvon:  i'm guessing you don't have a network interface configured yet on the 192.168.1.* network
[03:56] <crysis> EbilPhish: what does the 'scheduled for a check' mean?
[03:56] <jrib> ShackJack: it depends on what you want it to be, both ways will give the "nate" user full permissions
[03:56] <Yasumoto_> jake111: can you tell me what driver you're using?
[03:56] <geekberg> Rock On! Thanks much, im still learning terminal.  I really like the thought of not having to reboot!
[03:56] <wastrel> geekberg:  and not to forget,  killall
[03:56] <EbilPhish> crysis:  try adding '-o force'
[03:56] <lijian> join <ubuntu-cn>
[03:56] <rdvon> wastrel: i'll just go up 1 everytime than tell I figure out which one has it ;)
[03:56] <ShackJack> jrib: O.K. Didn't know if chmodding 777 was frowned upon or necessary to get ti to work (it seems that it is)
[03:56] <EbilPhish> crysis:  It means it wants to do a scan disk
[03:56] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I'm not sure...  how do I find out?
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: it's not working.. :(
[03:57] <crysis> EbliPhish, can I run a scandisk from ubuntu?
[03:57] <rdvon> how do i configure a network on the 192.168.1.* ?
[03:57] <Kazer0> So I need some help getting ubuntu on my laptop. Dell E1505 with X1300. LiveCD wont start in Safe Mode or normal. Any ideas?
[03:57] <wastrel> rdvon:  you need to configure a network interface first
[03:57] <Xero> crysis, it's not scandisk, but yes.
[03:57] <jrib> ShackJack: if you want everyone to have full access then that's the correct thing to do
[03:57] <stdin> ShackJack: depends on what you want it to be, if you want your user to write to it then you can make it world writeable or group writeable with you in the group. there are a few different ways to do it
[03:57] <Xero> It's called fsck.
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: oh. :]
[03:57] <Badpenguin86> My laptop sometimes stalls during shutdown when running init.d programs. Is there a way to find which one is causing the hang-up?
[03:57] <wastrel> Kazer0:  try the alternate cd
[03:57] <EbilPhish> EbilPhish:  Theres ntfsfix but its not quite the same and will probally flag it as needing a check by windows anyway
[03:57] <EbilPhish> crysis:  /\
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: How do i configure a network interface :)
[03:58] <crysis> so, how do I run the equivalent of scan disk on ubuntu 7.04?
[03:58] <wastrel> sry, wife needs the internet :]
[03:58] <EbilPhish> I have really gotta stop messaging myself
[03:58] <Kazer0> wastrel: Theres an alternate now?
[03:58] <wastrel> afk for a bit
[03:58] <crysis> lol
[03:58] <Yasumoto_> jake111: that link I sent you should tell you
[03:58] <bulmer> Badpenguin86: go see /var/log/messages file
[03:58] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: vocx: O.K. thanks all for the tips :)
[03:58] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I read the link, but it appears to be directions that you use under Linux?  I'm on windows xp right now, as it's the only thing I can get online with
[03:58] <stdin> !fsck | crysis
[03:58] <ubotu> crysis: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:58] <crysis> thanks
[03:58] <EbilPhish> crysis:  ntfsfix /dev/device
[03:58] <crysis> ok
[03:58] <rdvon> wastrel: is there any reason for my internet connection to keep resetting itself?
[03:58] <Yasumoto_> jake111: ah, alright. can you boot up one of the other computers?
[03:59] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I think so - do i just skip the network set up part though?
[03:59] <crysis> EbilPhish: bts, when I try to boot windows, it restarts just as the scrolling bar shows up
[03:59] <jerbear> what's a good bittorrent client? azureus has started randomly crashing on me, and i am fed up with it
[03:59] <dug> try vuze (just kidding)
[03:59] <EbilPhish> crysis:  That would be why it flags it as needing a check, if windows doesn't shutdown cleanly it will do that
[04:00] <Psyber> man I have vuze
[04:00] <Psyber> hate
[04:00] <crysis> EbliPhish: but wouldn't windows at least put me in the scan disc mode, automatically?
[04:00] <crysis> jerbear: deluge is the best for Ubuntu
[04:00] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: run it in advanced mode
[04:00] <jerbear> crysis: thanks
[04:00] <jerbear> crysis: do you have a link?
[04:00] <Yasumoto_> jake111: yeah, just boot up an ubuntu livecd
[04:01] <crysis> no, just google it
[04:01] <irotas> could someone please explain to me the difference between the 'skype' package and 'skype-static' ?
[04:01] <crysis> jerbear: also, utorrent works pretty well with Wine
[04:01] <irotas> is it just a difference in linking?
[04:01] <Psyber> BaD_CrC:  I just use the oldschool azures
[04:01] <tjduavis> good evening everyone
[04:01] <EbilPhish> crysis:  It needs to load some stuff first, so if it dies befoure then it won't. If you have a windows cd you can probally run the checker on that
[04:01] <crysis> ok
[04:01] <crysis> EbliPhish: so scan disc is THAT important?
[04:01] <ShackJack> A Gparted question if I may - I just formatted a second drive with gparted which says it is a 74.5 GB drive, but when i look at the free space in nautilus, it reads 69.5... Does anyone know what might have happened to my 5GB ( i have not run fsck on it yet, AFAIK)
[04:01] <Psyber> does vuez have any advantages over azzuers?
[04:01] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: in advanced mode, vuze looks and runs just like 2.5.x
[04:02] <tjduavis> i was wondering if anyone could help me with getting my wireless to work on a hp pavillion dv2000 laptop?
[04:02] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Probally not, did you try with the '-o force' option?
[04:02] <crysis> EbilPhish: "Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk."
[04:02] <jimmygoon> TFFXF <- Thank God for X Forwarding
[04:02] <Kazer0> More to my problem: Running the LiveCD does not work. X crashes with "No Screen Found", but above says "Screens found, but none with a usable configuration". This is in both safe graphics mode and normal. X1300 video card on a Dell E1505 laptop. Any ideas? I heard alternate CD with no explination on what that is
[04:02] <dug> vuze is azureus, just the new redesigned version of it
[04:02] <jerbear> does deluge have comparable features to azureus?
[04:02] <rocunreal_> i have an USB headset and Ubuntu doesn't allow me to control my Volume only from VLC can i change my Volume when i am listing to a song but its annoying and if im playing any other songs or sounds just using Ubuntu its way to loud is there any way to fix that?
[04:02] <crysis> EbilPhish: no I didn't, yet. I think I wanna try to fix the problem altogether before bothering to get write support to work
[04:02] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Also if you don't need write access you can do it as read only, use ntfs instead of ntfs-3g on the command line
[04:02] <Psyber> BaD_CrC: does vuze have an advantage over 2.5.x?
[04:02] <ShackJack> jerbear: Maybe not quite, but most features, most would need... plus it's lightweight and GNOME/GTK native
[04:03] <rocunreal_> i have an USB headset and Ubuntu doesn't allow me to control my Volume only from VLC can i change my Volume when i am listing to a song but its annoying and if im playing any other songs or sounds just using Ubuntu its way to loud is there any way to fix that?
[04:03] <rocunreal_> can anyone help me with that?
[04:03] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: not incredibly. the auto rate control is nice. it seems to work better with upnp/pmp routers.
[04:03] <jimmygoon> Is it possible that installing ubuntu rather than simply running it off of the live disc will allow better performance from my LCD, because off the live disc, it is baad, even switching the driver i810 to "intel"
[04:03] <Psyber> BaD_CrC:  ahh i c... thanks
[04:03] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  Looks like azureus sold out completely to distributors and made a shiny but horrible mac style interface :/
[04:03] <crysis> EbilPhish: so fsck is the equivalent of scan disc?
[04:03] <jake111> Yasumoto:  hmmm....  it appears the only live CD I have is for DSL
[04:04] <ShackJack> rocunreal_: Did you adjust the mixer (alsamixer)? perhaps?
[04:04] <rocunreal_> where is that?
[04:04] <Kazer0> :( Guess ill have to install 6.06 then, since I cant get the 7.06 CD to run
[04:04] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Yeh, but i'm not sure if fsck does ntfs, ntfsfix does though
[04:04] <rocunreal_> Where do i find the Alsamixer?
[04:04] <tjduavis> hello...sorry to interrupt but i was wondering if anyone could help me with getting my wireless to work on a hp pavillion dv2000 laptop?
[04:04] <jake111> Yasumoto:  the other ones (Edubunto and Xubunto) take me right into installing to the hard disk
[04:04] <Yasumoto_> jake111: oh really? are those "alternate install CDs"?
[04:04] <tjduavis> or know where i can get more information and assistance?
[04:05] <jake111> Two are the regular install, and one is the alternate install
[04:05] <jake111> The regular install on Xubunto wont load at all
[04:05] <Yasumoto_> jake111: I tried DSL for a while back in the day, but never got wireless to work
[04:05] <joebob777as7_> what programming languages do i need to learn to help contribute?
[04:05] <Yasumoto_> jake111: hm, maybe it was a bad burn? that's happened to me a few times
[04:05] <dug> rocunreal_: there is an alsamixergui tool, but it is really similar to the standard volume control
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto: I should try a fresh burn
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto:  hey I'll be back in a few - my kid woke up
[04:05] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm trying out gusty tribe 5, but I can't get my NForce network to work. it seems to setup the "forcedeth" module for it, and sets up 2 interfaces, eth0/1 but neither find a dhcp, and with static settings I can't ping anything on the network
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto:  thank you so much for your help
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> jake111: try downloading a new ubuntu CD
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:06] <JediMaster> it's a reported bug already (136836)
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> jake111: no problem, good luck! :)
[04:06] <rocunreal_> alsamixergui tool idk where to find that?
[04:06] <dug> !synaptic | rocunreal_
[04:06] <ubotu> rocunreal_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:07] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: join #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <dug> rocunreal_: search for alsamixergui under system->administration->synaptic package manager
[04:07] <rocunreal_> kk
[04:07] <ShackJack> Any thought as to why gparted takes **so** long to Scan all devices on my computer (like > 20 mins?)
[04:07] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: that's a specific development release channel
[04:07] <dijungal> so what cool new features does the new ubuntu have :)
[04:07] <JediMaster> Yasumoto_: thanks =)
[04:08] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: np :)
[04:08] <ShackJack> dijungal: ask over @ #ubuntu+1 ;)
[04:08] <dijungal> ubuntu+1?
[04:08] <dug> dijungal: a gui front-end to xorg.conf, better java integration, newer versions of apps like pidgin, thunderbird 2, etc.: http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html
[04:08] <ShackJack> dijungal: Channel concerning next ubuntu version..
[04:08] <rocunreal_> Thanks for the Help Dug, i think im it should work now! :D
[04:08] <jimmygoon> better java integration... wooohoo, I didn't know that
[04:08] <luig> hello, how can i  change a particion ext3 in a sata disk from RO to RW
[04:10] <Badpenguin86_> Is there a way to shutdown in verbose mode?
[04:10] <crysis> pelo: can I run an equivalent of scan disc in live Feisty Fawn? (ntfsfix produces errors)
[04:10] <Pelo> Badpenguin86, shutdown what ?
[04:10] <jerbear> does deluge support upnp?
[04:10] <MongooseWA> how do mp3 and ogg compare with regard to sound quality?
[04:10] <Pelo> crysis, I don'T know of a linux scandisk for ntfs sorry
[04:11] <crysis> its ok
[04:11] <Pelo> Badpenguin86, I don'T allow private msg , please talk to me in the channel
[04:11] <Badpenguin86_> Pelo, Shutdown my computer.. it stalls and won't shut down all the way
[04:11] <Kazer0> So if X crashes on the liveCD, and I install using text based installer, wont it crash when after its installed anyways?
[04:11] <Ant1jr> hey how do I open a rar in ubuntu
[04:11] <Pelo> crysis,  I donT' think you'll find a linux prog for ntfs
[04:11] <luig> does anyone know how to change ext3  from  RO to RW
[04:11] <rocunreal_> That Worked Thanks! peace out
[04:11] <luig> ?
[04:11] <Pelo> Badpenguin86,  sudo shutdown
[04:11] <irish_jnr> Hi, im resizing my partition, and it's been at 0% for 5mins now. Is this normal and is just gonna take a while..or am i screwed
[04:12] <Grungebunny> ant1jr i'd say double click on it
[04:12] <Yasumoto_> Badpenguin86_: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:12] <usser> luig: is it mounted somewhere?
[04:12] <Ant1jr> i no
 is ok
[04:12] <Ant1jr> i need the rar to open with fileroller
[04:12] <DarkED> hmm... how come i can only get sound from one program at a time in 7.04?
[04:12] <Pelo> Kazer0,  the live cd requres much more memory the alternate isntall cd is easier on the hardware
[04:12] <MongooseWA> how do mp3 and ogg compare with regard to sound quality?
[04:12] <DarkED> i've got everything set to ALSA
[04:12] <Ant1jr> but it opens with archive manager
[04:12] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: I'd give it at least 30 minutes, then I'd probably reboot and retry
 : is not mount when i start ubuntu
[04:12] <DarkED> MongooseWA, ogg/vorbis is far superior
[04:12] <Ant1jr> how do I open a rar with fileroller
[04:13] <Ant1jr> its not in open with
[04:13] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: if it's still at 0% after 45 minutes, I'd definitely restart
[04:13] <Ally-san> Antljr - you could also use "unrar"
 it took me like 20 minutes with a dual core and 1000 on DDR2 ram
[04:13] <Kazer0> Pelo: But my error is with X not detecting my video card, so wouldnt I have a similar problem after install?
[04:13] <Pelo> irish_jnr,   resizing a partiton takes a while specialy if there is a lot of data on it and more so if it is ntfs or fat32 and it is not defraged
[04:13] <usser> luig: alright do you have a mountpoint handy
[04:13] <irish_jnr> oh god why...just after getting an error. "Resize operation failure...an error occured, the resize is aborted"......im so confused.
[04:13] <Pelo> Kazer0, what isyour videocard ?
 no
[04:13] <Kazer0> Pelo: X1300 Mobile
[04:14] <Pelo> Kazer0, isthat an ati videocard ?
[04:14] <usser> luig: do sudo mkdir /data
[04:14] <Kazer0> Pelo: Yes
[04:14] <usser> luig: do you know the partition name?
[04:14] <luig> nothing happen usser>
[04:14] <usser> luig: like /dev/hda2?
[04:14] <luig> yes
[04:14] <Cyclope`> hi
[04:14] <usser> luig: which one is it?
[04:14] <irish_jnr> any idea what's causing the error anyone.
[04:14] <luig> /dev/sda4 <usser>
[04:14] <Kazer0> Pelo: Any ideas?
[04:15] <usser> luig: alright do sudo mount /dev/sda4 /data
[04:15] <Pelo> Kazer0, ati and nvidia donT' make FOSS drivers so they are not supported in the live cd,  the alternate cd installs a vesa driver so you can use the gui while you get the restricted or binarie drivers,  use the alternate install cd and you will be fine
[04:15] <Kazer0> Pelo: I will try that.
[04:15] <Pelo> Kazer0, there is no trying,    do or die
[04:15] <usser> luig: after that do sudo chown <yourusername:yourusername> /data
[04:15] <irish_jnr> any idea whats causing mine? ^^
[04:16] <Eric> hi,
[04:16] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: are you resizing during an install?
[04:16] <Kazer0> Pelo: I dont like to die, so I think ill do.
[04:16] <dug> Kazer0: if you are installing and the live cd has a lot of problems, you might try ubuntu gutsy tribe 5, it is newer (but final version still not released)
[04:16] <Ant1jr> ok how do I extract a rar with unrar
[04:16] <Ant1jr> I installed
[04:16] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: yeah
[04:16] <Pelo> irish_jnr,  so far you don'T ahve an error just a long function to wait after
[04:16] <fiveiron> i need a CLI equalizer
[04:16] <Ant1jr> how do I OPEN A RAR!!! RAWR!!!
[04:16] <Kazer0> dug: I only have 1 blank CD left, so ill try the alternate
[04:16] <Pelo> fiveiron, alsamixer ?
[04:16] <Ant1jr> OPENING A RAR IS SO EASY IN WINDOWS
 it said that it doesn't exist that directory
[04:16] <irish_jnr> Pelo: i am getting an error
[04:16] <Pelo> Ant1jr,   sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:16] <Kazer0> Ant1jr: You can try to WINE emulater win-rar since I dont know any linux program :P
[04:16] <fiveiron> Pelo, does it also do equalization?
[04:17] <jerbear> there's an option for upnp in deluge, but how do i use it?
[04:17] <Pelo> irish_jnr, what is the error ?
[04:17] <usser> luig: did you do sudo mkdir /data?
[04:17] <Ant1jr> Pelo, I installed it with synaptic
[04:17] <Pelo> fiveiron, sorry I got confused,  forget what I said
[04:17] <irish_jnr> "Resize operation failure...an error occured, the resize is aborted"
[04:17] <usser> luig: which command failed? mount one?
[04:17] <jacob> is it possible to set a program to run at start up?
[04:17] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: hm, if you go to "System" >> Administration >> Gparted
[04:17] <Ant1jr> Pelo, I installed it with synaptic
[04:17] <Pelo> Ant1jr, is this a multi part archive ?
[04:17] <Yasumoto_> it might help keep things separate
[04:17] <Ant1jr> 1 part
[04:17] <luig>  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /data   after i did    sudo chown <yourusername:yourusername> /data
[04:18] <pike_> !startup | jacob
[04:18] <ubotu> jacob: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[04:18] <eno__> hello, all.  My sound stopped working.  I tried killall esd and it did not work.  I know that restarting x would solve the problem, but is there something else I can try?
 i think we miss one command
[04:18] <Pelo> irish_jnr, restart the lice cd,  occasionnaly you get the message but the job was done
[04:18] <Ant1jr> how can i open exes with wine
[04:18] <Pelo> !sound | eno__
[04:18] <ubotu> eno__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:18] <pike_> eno__: does sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart work?
[04:18] <Ant1jr> how can I open an exe with wine
[04:18] <junkeR> when will OpenOffice 2.3 be on the update servers?
[04:18] <pike_> Ant1jr: wine file.exe
[04:18] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: ok, gparted is open
[04:18] <dug> junkeR: prob it will only be available with gutsy
[04:18] <usser> luig: did you substitute <yourusername with the actual username?
[04:19] <Ant1jr> can i set it up so i can just click on an exe
[04:19] <pike_> Ant1jr: if its an installer it will install to /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c
[04:19] <Pelo> Ant1jr, try not to repeat your questions so frequently
 i make sudo mkdir /data and it said that the file already exist
[04:19] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: now you can resize or delete your current partition(s) and create your new ones
[04:19] <Pelo> Ant1jr,  you can make a launcher with the complete command line it in ,  right lick the desktop
[04:19] <eno__> pike_: that did not do it
[04:19] <Ant1jr> also with wine file
[04:20] <Ant1jr> when i look at my c drive
[04:20] <pike_> Ant1jr: id say you can just right-click and do an open with and choose to associate form now on but i dont use gnome or nautilus
[04:20] <usser> luig: aa ok, right well lets try a different one sudo mkdir /newdisk
[04:20] <luig>  <usser>: could we do it all again? please :)
[04:20] <Pelo> Ant1jr, wine questions are better answered in #winehq
[04:20] <Ant1jr> it just says common files in program files folder
[04:20] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: at the very least, you should create one ext3 partition, and a swap partition (512mb - 2 gb depending on the size of your hard drive and how much ram you have)
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo umount /dev/sda4
[04:20] <locellcount> Can anyone remember a wallpaper on the Ubuntu forums that had grass and a single ladybird? It was in a discussion of themes I think... can't find it again :(
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo mount /dev/sda4 /newdrive
[04:20] <Ant1jr> winehq does not exist
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo chown luig:luig /newdrive
[04:21] <eno__> screw it, I am restarting x.
[04:21] <usser> luig: or whatever your actual username is
[04:21] <Pelo> Ant1jr,  yes it does  /join #winehq
[04:21] <luig> usser  "the mount point does not exist"
[04:21] <pike_> eno__: open a terminal and run 'alsamixer'  you can hit tab to go throush setting but the ones your concerned about will be in the first playback tab anyway. just play an mp3 or something while you mess with the settings. use M to mute and  < and > to unmute and the arrow keys to adjust volume
[04:21] <luig>  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /newdrive   has failed
[04:21] <luig> usser
[04:21] <usser> luig: sudo mkdir /newdrive ?? did you do it?
[04:22] <Bender1337> hi, i am going to get sprint wireless internet and i am wondering is it possible to use Linux as a server to get access on all my pcs?
[04:22] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: ok, got an error again. "check filesystem on /dev/hda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them
 yes
[04:22] <Pelo> luig,  sudo mkdir /media/newdriver   then sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive
[04:22] <Yasumoto_> really? hm. interesting
[04:22] <usser> luig: wth paste ls /newdrive
[04:22] <Pelo> Bender1337, the answer is probably yes , but #networking might be a better place to ask
[04:22] <Bender1337> thanks
[04:22] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: how old is your computer/how big is your hard drive?
[04:22] <irish_jnr> do i need to run chkdsk again?
[04:22] <usser> luig: do ls /newdrive and paste the result here
[04:23] <luig> sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive   answer the mount point does not exist
[04:23] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: yeah, I would. and fsck if you can too
[04:23] <jpastore> hello, was wondering if someone can help me creating a pptp connection to my office.
[04:23] <Pelo> luig, did you  sudo mkdir /media/newdrive first ?
[04:23] <jpastore> I tried pptpconfig and kvpnc
 I'm using ubuntu in spanish
[04:23] <irish_jnr> alright, ill try that. btw amd 3500. 1gb ram. 100gb hd
[04:23] <gnurph> okay, I have the Windows drivers set up for my wireless NIC (per http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/) and now it wants me to "ow, setup the network parameters for the interface wlan0."  i tried system/administration/network - and it hangs.  suggestions?
[04:23] <usser> luig: doesn't matter
 i think i would be difficult
[04:23] <luig> ok
[04:24] <Pelo> gnurph,  reboot and try again ?
 could you send me the paste address
[04:24] <gnurph> pelo:  should i have to?
[04:24] <usser> luig: do as pelo said do sudo mkdir /media/newdrive
[04:24] <usser> luig: pastebin.ca
[04:24] <jpastore> should I be in a different channel for help with creating a vpn connection?
[04:25] <usser> jpastore: what do you use openvpn?
[04:25] <Pelo> gnurph, I think that should be a good option if you hang ,  donT' start anything else after reboot,  just go straight for the network stuff
[04:25] <gnurph> i'll see what happens.
[04:25] <jpastore> usser I used the vpn connection tool in the network manager
[04:25] <jpastore> and I tried vpnc
[04:25] <jpastore> er kvpnc
[04:25] <Pelo> jpastore, no but remember that the skill set of the members changes a lot
[04:25] <usser> jpastore: oh don't know about that
[04:25] <vocx> jpastore, irc channels are volatile. You are better reading documentation or following threads on the forums.
[04:26] <jpastore> vocx: forums got me nowhere
[04:26] <Pelo> jpastore, hvae you looked for vpn channels ?
[04:26] <jpastore> pelo: no I'll do that now...thanks
[04:27] <P_Kable> I use amaranth repos on ubuntu feisty, and compiz-core doesn't want to upgrade, it comes back saying it needs to be upgraded, I've done it maybe 500 times in a few weeks but it comes back all the time... thx
[04:27] <Pelo> P_Kable, ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:27] <vocx> P_Kable, ask amaranth. Are you sure those are stable repositories?
[04:28] <jrib> Pelo: it's a bug in ppa I believe...
[04:28] <jrib> P_Kable: ^
[04:28] <P_Kable> jrib=>  yes ?
[04:29] <Pelo> P_Kable,  he means read the line above
[04:29] <ddalton> Does ubuntu come with espeak?
[04:30] <Pelo> ddalton, yes,  check in synaptic
[04:30] <vocx> !info espeak | ddalton
[04:30] <ubotu> ddalton: espeak: A multi-lingual software speech synthesizer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.21-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 220 kB
[04:30] <P_Kable> jrib=>  ppa ???
[04:31] <ddalton> so it automatically comes with it when I install it?
[04:31] <jrib> P_Kable: personal package archives, it's where those repos are hosted
[04:31] <ddalton> so when I install ubuntu espeak is installed?
[04:31] <dug> ddalton: no, you install it using synaptic
[04:31] <Pelo> ddalton, you need to install it after
[04:31] <P_Kable> so why is that bug still here after all this time if it's a known bug ?
[04:31] <ddalton> so how does orca work?
[04:31] <Pelo> ddalton, you probably need to install it aswell
[04:32] <lildonkey> hello
[04:32] <ddalton> orca comes with it
[04:32] <lildonkey> i got a problem with ati video
[04:32] <vocx> !info orca
[04:32] <ubotu> orca: Router Monitoring and Graphing System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3 (feisty), package size 4 kB, installed size 104 kB
[04:32] <Pelo> lildonkey, and the nature of the problem is ?
[04:32] <ddalton> where can I read about ubuntu and find instalation instructions. And where do I get the instalation files from?
[04:32] <luig> hello again usser and Pelo, i have to restart sorry
[04:33] <lildonkey> beryl doesnot work
[04:33] <jake111> Yasumoto:  argh!!!  The Linux Gods hate me!!!  I made a fresh CD, and guess what??  THE CD-ROM STOPPED WORKING!!!!
[04:33] <Pelo> luig,   sudo mkdir /media/newdrive
[04:33] <Pelo> lildonkey, ask in #beryl
[04:33] <lildonkey> when  but my video driver are intall
[04:33] <vocx> ddalton, head to ubuntuforums.org lots of info there. Specially look for your exact hardware and model.
[04:33] <luig> Pelo: sudo mkdir /media/newdrive  done
[04:34] <Pelo> luig,  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive
[04:34] <lildonkey>  hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:34] <avt3kk> is there another ap* like mixxx in synaptic?
[04:34] <vocx> !es | lildonkey
[04:34] <ubotu> lildonkey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:34] <Pelo> !es | lildonkey
[04:34] <luig> pelo:  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive   done
[04:34] <vocx> Pelo, ha faster, I knew you were going to use the factoid.
[04:34] <Bender1337> hi, i am getting sprint wireless internet and i am wondering if i can use linux as a server to get internet on all my pcs?
[04:35] <Pelo> luig,  newdrive should have appeared on your desktop
[04:35] <dug> ddalton: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/ there is a download link.  burn the image you download to a cd and boot up to it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
 ves a #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <jacob> anybody knows where the firestarter program is located so i make it run at startup?
 it did
 now what shoul i do
[04:35] <avt3kk> im looking for an ap* like mixxx that I can get from synaptic
[04:36] <Nilisco> jacob, try whereis firestarter
[04:36] <joebob777as7_> jacob, ? ~/.firestarter
[04:36] <jrib> P_Kable: I don't know, but amaranth knows about it so he's probably working on it
[04:36] <Pelo> jacob, you don'T need the path, just start it,  then go to  menu > sstem > prefs > session, third tab , click  save session
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: wow, that's brutal :X
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: sorry, not you
[04:36] <Pelo> luig,  why did you want sda4 mounted in the first place ?
[04:36] <SAM_theman> whats the difference between ubuntu desktop and server?
  ves a este link #ubuntu-es
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: I meant jake111, but he left
[04:36] <vocx> jacob, most executables are in /usr/bin and those in /bin directories
[04:36] <avt3kk> server has no gui only blinking curser hahha
[04:36] <Pelo> SAM_theman, the desktop,  server is just cli
[04:36] <SAM_theman> cli?
[04:37] <vocx> !cli | SAM_theman
[04:37] <ubotu> SAM_theman: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:37] <Kagee> avt3kk: you should be able to find mixxx in  in synaptic
[04:37] <avt3kk> server black screen only one blinking curser
[04:37] <jacob> vocx ok thnks and i understand
 i want sda4 to be a partitio0n to put movies so when i reinstall ubuntu i can format /home with the configurations
[04:37] <avt3kk> its installed
[04:37] <avt3kk> I want another better then mixxx
[04:37] <Pelo> luig, oh, sorry,  you want to partition sda4 first ok then  sudo umount /media/newdrive
 do you understand me? I just know a little english
[04:38] <Pelo> luig,   sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> on a fresh install on a brand new HD, what should I set the disklabel as?
[04:38] <gnurph> pelo:  the reboot hosed me.  now it won't even see the wireless NIC any longer.
[04:38] <avt3kk> anything better then mixxx?
 i already have install gparted
 that was the app i use to create the partition
[04:38] <mnereson> is there any command that will blow away the entire installation and get the latest version ?
[04:38] <vocx> mnereson, no
[04:39] <Pelo> luig, sorry, nvm the last few things   if you still have sda4 mounted on your destkop , all you need to do now, is just copy the movies to it
[04:39] <mnereson> thanks
[04:39] <vocx> !best | avt3kk
[04:39] <ubotu> avt3kk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:39] <jacob> vocx when i search for firestarter in the bin directory, i don't find it there
[04:39] <jakob__> hi there - I have some troubles with the clock() in time.h - it returns zero all the time (turionX2)
[04:39] <NMajik> When I try to install adblock plus in firefox it gives me an error (-203), it references the error console and I can list what it shows it that might be helpful. The thing is, when I run gksudo firefox I am able to install adblock plus, but this only appears to have an affect on firefox if I run it as root. I think there is likely something very simple I am overlooking
[04:39] <dug> jacob: it's in /usr/sbin/firestarter
 it does not allow to write
 i can't even create a folder in it
[04:40] <Pelo> luig, what format is the partition ?
 ext3
[04:40] <vocx> NMajik, I think plugins are installed to the hidden home folder .mozilla, and you can also install the plugins to all users if you move them to the appropriate folder in /usr/share whatever. But don't trust me on this.
[04:40] <Pelo> luig,   sudo chmod 755 /media/newdrive
[04:40] <jacob> do i need to have firestarter start up with my computer to protect my laptop or does windows already comes with one?
[04:41] <jerbear> does anyone use upnp with deluge?
[04:41] <vocx> jacob, windows?
[04:41] <jacob> oh sorry
[04:41] <jacob> vocx sorry
[04:41] <jacob> vocx i meant linux
[04:41] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chmod 755 /media/newdrive done
[04:41] <avt3kk> is there any plugins for mixxx?
[04:41] <NMajik> vocx: Where do I tell firefox where to install the plugins to?
[04:41] <Pelo> luig, you should be able to create folders and copy files now
[04:41] <NMajik> vocx: To clarify, I don't remember it prompting me
[04:41] <dug> jacob: once you start firestarter once, it secures iptables for you, and that stays secure even when firestarter is not running
[04:41] <jacob> ....does ubuntu comes with a firewall by default in it's system
[04:42] <avt3kk> ip table?
[04:42] <avt3kk> s
 it does not allow to write yet
[04:42] <gnurph> let's try again:  i need some assistance with Windows wireless drivers - anybody?
[04:42] <vocx> NMajik, Well I think it does it automatically, hence you shouldn't worry. But I'm not sure. I've just installed a few search engines and that's all.
[04:42] <Pelo> jacob, yes,  netfilter  you can make rules in it using iptables in command line or with firestarter in gui
[04:42] <dug> !iptables
[04:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:42] <jacob> dug so i don't need to put firestarter to start at start up?
[04:42] <dug> jacob right
[04:42] <Pelo> luig, it should allow you to write now
[04:42] <Pelo> jacob,  no
[04:43] <NMajik> vocx: I'm confused, if it does it automatically why isn't it working?
[04:43] <Pawwa> .
 it does not allow to write
[04:43] <jacob> mmmm
[04:43] <Pelo> luig,  sudo chmod 777 /media/newdrive
[04:43] <jacob> pelo, what do you mean by no. you saying that dug is wrong?
[04:43] <vocx> NMajik, that's exactly the problem. The next question is how are you trying to install them?
[04:43] <dug> jacob, he meant: no, you don't need to put firestarter to start at startup
[04:43] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chmod 777 /media/newdrive done
[04:43] <Pelo> jacob, I mean you do not need to load firestarter at startup to have a working firewall
[04:43] <Pelo> luig, try now
[04:44] <avt3kk> firestarter is like a frontend is all
[04:44] <luig> Pelo: It does not work
[04:44] <NMajik> vocx: I've been going to firefox's official plugin site an pressing install for adblock plus. Is there a manual way?
[04:44] <avt3kk> it all works but you just cant see it workin lol
[04:44] <luig> Pelo:   :(
[04:44] <avt3kk> unless you use a frontend
[04:44] <dug> NMajik: if you want you can paste this in your /etc/HOSTS file and block a lot of ads: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
[04:44] <jacob> ok, thx (both of you)
[04:45] <Pelo> luig, it should have worked right from the beginning ,  you mounted it , you'Re the owner,   try this  sudo chown /media/newdrive  username:username
[04:45] <avt3kk> np Jacob :D
[04:45] <dug> /etc/hosts i mean
[04:45] <vocx> NMajik, check if there is a plugin "for linux"... actually got a link?
[04:45] <orion1> Hey im trying to install linux and i am having some trouble resizing my hard drive
[04:45] <NMajik> vocx: Quick searching didn't turn up anything
[04:45] <jpastore> no love trying to find VPN support else where. has anyone successfully created a pptp connection in x86_64 environment?
[04:46] <orion1> I have run check disk and restarted twice but that didnt fix the problem.
[04:46] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chown /media/newdrive  username:username   it sais user invalid
[04:46] <NMajik> dug: Can that be easily disabled if I need to click an ad?
[04:46] <Pelo> jacob,  personnaly I don'T think you realy need a firewall in linux if you're just a home user, linux is far more secure then windows and has far fewer viruses and other nasty stuff
[04:46] <Pelo> luig, don'T use username , just your username
[04:46] <NMajik> dug: Well, something that is misinterpretted as an ad
[04:46] <dug> NMajik: no, it's a hard block, the only way to unblock is to edit the /etc/hosts file
[04:46] <luig> pelo i think i know whats going on
 i know
[04:46] <irish_jnr> still having problems partitioning the drives.
[04:46] <avt3kk> this room is always so active :D
[04:46] <jacob> Pelo: ah ok, thx
[04:46] <Pelo> luig, and what would that be ?
[04:46] <jacob> Pelo, i'll keep that in mind
[04:47] <NMajik> dug: Hmmm, that's less than ideal. But if nothing else will work I'll go with that. Thanks for the idea
[04:47] <tgm4883_laptop> on a fresh install on a brand new HD, what should I set the disklabel as?
[04:47] <wastrel> what's a disklabel?
[04:47] <luig> Pelo: my first user when i install brokes down
[04:47] <luig> Pelo: I create a new user and make that user admin
[04:47] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop, linux doesnT do dsklabel like ms does
[04:47] <jebblue> which is better as a gui, firestarter or shorewall ?
[04:47] <tgm4883_laptop> Pelo, well gparted it asking me what to set it as
[04:47] <dug> tgm4883_laptop: if you are in the process of installing, one partition should be labeled "/" for root.  otherwise, labels don't matter
[04:48] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop, oh, use the msdos one
[04:48] <bruenig> jebblue, try them both, they are just front ends
[04:48] <luig> Pelo: maybe because of that the system does not understand that the new user is root
[04:48] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks Pelo
[04:48] <avt3kk> I thought shorewall you have to be elite to setup
[04:48] <orion1> Can someone give me a hand on resizing one of my hard drivees?
[04:48] <bruenig> luig, what do you mean made that user admin?
[04:48] <Pelo> luig,your current user mounted the drive he should have full access to it
 : well i create a new session and i allow that user to be admin
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, how far have you gotten ?
[04:49] <bruenig> luig, define admin
[04:49] <bruenig> do you mean root?
[04:49] <luig> ?
[04:49] <P_Kable> I can't get my new swap partition to mount at boot. I have to use gparted everytime I boot and activate the swap
[04:49] <luig> yes
[04:49] <bruenig> or a user with root like abilities
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: no where
[04:49] <fatcatmatt> what's up, everybody!?
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, have you installed ubuntu yet ?<
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: i try to resize but it doesnt let me
[04:49] <dug> P_Kable: the swap partition is usually never mounted in a way that is visible to the user (you)
[04:49] <luig> well i does not say root cause i know there is also a root session that is not allow in ubuntu by default
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: no im running the live cd
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, unmount the partition first
[04:49] <avt3kk> how do I record mixxx?
[04:49] <orion1> k
[04:49] <NMajik> dug: Is it /etc/hosts or /etc/HOSTS?
[04:50] <dug> /etc/hosts
[04:50] <P_Kable> well dug I still have 760M of swap ... how can I change that ?
[04:50] <orion1> Pelo: they are already unmounted
[04:50] <dug> P_Kable: how much RAM do you have?
[04:50] <P_Kable> 4gb
[04:50] <orion1> Pelo: i ran check disk and i restarted twice i also defraged....
[04:50] <dug> sh*t
[04:51] <orion1> Pelo: i tried using qtparted but that didnt work
[04:51] <Pelo> orion1, how many partition on this hdd ?
[04:51] <dug> you probably don't even need swap
 thanks anyway
[04:51] <orion1> Pelo: 2 one that holds windows and the second is some recovery shit
[04:51] <jpastore>  hey I was wondering if someone here has successfully created a microsoft pptp connection in feisty x86_64
[04:51] <Pelo> luig, sorry I coldn't help more
[04:51] <P_Kable> I formatted a 10gb drive that I don't use in order to add the whole drive as swap, it works great but I have to activate it at each boot
[04:52] <Pelo> orion1, do you get a msg when you try to resize ?
[04:52] <MeRodent> Anyone with any suggestions to forcing a particular print driver? Stupid system insists on using a driver that doesn't work with the printer because it's the foo2zjs recommended driver when there is a more suitable one that actually works.
[04:52] <orion1> Pelo: yea it gave me an error.
[04:52] <swarm> what advantage do you have for a 10gb swap?
[04:52] <Pelo> orion1,  what error ?
[04:52] <orion1> Pelo: one sec
[04:52] <P_Kable> if it goes to hibernation for example swarm
 is ok, now I'm closer to the solution because of you guys thanks
[04:52] <jacob> my guess is that i don't need an antivirus either. is there any viruses out there in the wild?
[04:52] <bruenig> !virus
[04:52] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:52] <P_Kable> anyway I just asked how to add it in the fstab
[04:53] <Pelo> jacob,  i donT' have one, but if you feel better about it   avast makes an nice easy to use one that also scans for windows virus so you don'T spread them around
[04:53] <vocx> swarm, it is too big. But you'll be able to hibernate 10 GB of RAM. Recommended size would be about 1GB or 2GB if you have a lot of RAM and really want to hibernate.
[04:53] <orion1> Pelo: it says FileSystem check Failed! totally 48 Cluster accounting mismatch and then run chkdsk /f on windows and then reboot
[04:53] <swarm> hmm. i have 8gb ram
[04:53] <dug> P_Kable: I think you can find the uuid of the drive (can't remember how to do that).  my line looks like: UUID=8c57507d-a602-4511-8ec5-8366d9d7e002 none swap sw 0 0
[04:53] <orion1> Pelo: i have done that twice though
[04:53] <swarm> but i never hybernate
[04:54] <swarm> hib
[04:54] <Pelo> orion1,  boot back windows and run a scandisk , with auto repair and stuff
[04:54] <orion1> Pelo: i have done that
[04:54] <vocx> swarm, impressive. What computer do you have?
[04:54] <irish_jnr> when i run chkdsk, do i have to run windows again to be able to use the gparted tool??
[04:54] <patbam> hi, i am having problems with language support. i tried switching from english to portuguese, and now my language support dialog seems to be in an inconsistent state. it looks like this http://ruphus.com/stash/Screenshot-Language-Support.png . it won't save and now all kinds of command line apps, including cut and paste, are breaking
[04:54] <orion1> Pelo: should i run it with the windows ubuntu install while running windows/
[04:54] <swarm> antec p180 case, asus p5k-deluxe wifi-ap, dual nvidia 8800gtx's in SLI, q6600 processor, 8gb corsair dominator xms2 1066mhz ram
[04:54] <Pelo> orion1, what ?
[04:54] <avt3kk> guys how do I record mixxx without loosing any quality?
[04:55] <NMajik> dug: Thanks. Is this the solution you use?
[04:55] <swarm> all overclocked, liquid cooled
[04:55] <dug> P_Kable: use this to find uuid of drive: sudo vol_id -u /dev/yourdevice
[04:55] <orion1> Pelo: they have this installer that installs ubuntu on your computer from windows
[04:55] <avt3kk> Swarm is my best buddy!!! :D
[04:55] <swarm> oh, and 6 WD Raptor 150gb HDD's
[04:55] <orion1> Pelo: i think im just ggoing to do taht
[04:55] <dug> NMajik: I use the /etc/hosts file and firefox ad block :)
[04:55] <orion1> thanks for trying to help later
[04:55] <Pelo> orion1, you can give it a try ,  I never did,  it might help
[04:55] <swarm> its a good 3d video editing machine. :)
[04:55] <alecw1> I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[04:56] <avt3kk> Swarm I built my pc but compared to yours mine is like from kmart lolol
[04:56] <swarm> 3 samsung 226BW screens
[04:56] <NMajik> dug: Darn, any idea how you got your adblock installed?
[04:56] <dug> !wubi
[04:56] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[04:56] <swarm> avt3kk, mine does OK :)
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm you need a roomate lol
[04:57] <avt3kk> ;)
[04:57] <dug> NMajik: I just clicked the install now button: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10  Maybe your .mozilla folder has a problem
[04:57] <swarm> in windows xp, it doesn't even get to the 3rd part of the progress bar when loading
[04:57] <irish_jnr> supposidly wubi has a lot of problems associated with it>
[04:57] <Pelo> alecw1, right click on it , select remove,  then right click on the top pannel  add to pannel and put a new one in where you want ti
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm heres mine; dont laugh
[04:57] <swarm> on startup
[04:57] <alecw1> Pelo, were do I right click?
[04:57] <vocx> swarm, avt3kk people you are off topic.
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm you having xp trouble?
[04:57] <Pelo> alecw1,  on the notivication area that is on your desktop
[04:58] <swarm> no, avt3kk.. i rarely use xp anyhow :
[04:58] <ubuntu_Begineer> hi all
[04:58] <alecw1> There are like 3 different icons, with three different windows. I mean, they are resizeable and movable and everything...
[04:58] <Pelo> alecw1, try on the little square icon at the top
[04:58] <ubuntu_Begineer> can any body plz help ?
[04:58] <vocx> !ask | ubuntu_Begineer
[04:58] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:58] <Pelo> ubuntu_Begineer, we need questions
[04:59] <alecw1> Pelo, that's just the network manager, I just did that.. all the other windows are still up.
[04:59] <Pelo> alecw1, try restarting x
[04:59] <ubuntu_Begineer> i using ubuntu first time I was want to know how to mount my ntfs partition in ubuntu
[04:59] <alecw1> Pelo, I have done so like 4 times. :(
[04:59] <allorder> I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 I try to play the game regnum somone told me to do chroot 32-bit, game run and then i got a black screen that say: out of range, any ideas ?
[04:59] <swarm> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_Begineer
[04:59] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:59] <avt3kk> Swarm did you get my pm?
[04:59] <dirtyhand> is there a way to make an image of a ubuntu install
[05:00] <swarm> no, avt3kk, you have to have a registered name and be identified to PM
[05:00] <ubuntu_Begineer> thanx ubotu
[05:00] <ubuntu_Begineer> !btfs-3g
[05:00] <Pelo> !thanks | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btfs-3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:00] <swarm> go to #avt we'll talk there
[05:00] <dug> dirtyhand: you might google for: remastering ubuntu or similar searches, there is a gui tool for creating custom ubuntu cds
[05:00] <swarm> to keep the chatter out
[05:00] <bruenig> !sorry | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:00] <avt3kk> Swarm im going to pastebin ok
[05:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[05:00] <Faintofhearts> I have a question, more regarding the Linux kernel than Ubuntu.
[05:00] <dns_56> allorder: you sure you have everything required in the chroot, ie xlibs etc, and are you passing the desktop environment variable to the chroot?
[05:00] <vocx> ubuntu_Begineer, NTFS can be read without problems. If you use ntfs-3g you may read from and write to the partition.
[05:01] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:01] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:01] <Pelo> later folks
[05:01] <dug> !question
[05:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <ubuntu_Begineer> !ntfs-3g
[05:01] <allorder> dns_56: no.. ?
[05:01] <NMajik> dug: Hmm, must be the case.
[05:01] <bruenig> !love | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:01] <alecw1> I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[05:01] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[05:01] <avt3kk> Swarm this is for you: http://www.pastebin.org/2502
[05:01] <Faintofhearts> I have a 5GB partition set up, and I want to install the linux kernel on it. Is this possible to do while in an Ubuntu session, and  if so how can you do it?
[05:02] <dns_56> allorder: how did you setup the chroot?
[05:02] <avt3kk> Swarm I have a dualboot pc with xp and ubuntu
[05:02] <ubuntu_Begineer> is ubuntu to best for a begineer ?
[05:02] <swarm> avt3kk, you do know that i have no problem, right?
[05:02] <vocx> Faintofhearts, what do you mean "install it". You have Ubuntu, you have the Linux kernel.
[05:02] <swarm> i also have xp and ubuntu, and vista
[05:02] <avt3kk> you said it wouldnt boot lol xp
[05:02] <allorder> dns_56: like it say in the howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=howto+32+bit&page=22
[05:02] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I know that. I mean on a a different partition that is currently blank.
[05:03] <avt3kk> just telling you because I have dualboot and enjoy it
[05:03] <ubuntu_Begineer> is ubuntu  best for a begineer ?
[05:03] <swarm> oh no...
[05:03] <vocx> swarm, avt3kk again #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[05:03] <avt3kk> sorry geesh :/
[05:03] <vocx> ubuntu_Begineer, yes
[05:03] <swarm> i said it doesn't get past the 3rd little progress bar.. meaning the system is so fast it doesn't get that far before it boots
[05:03] <ubuntu_Begineer> thanx
[05:03] <usser> ubuntu_Begineer: either ubuntu or suse
[05:03] <avt3kk> ty for sayin lol
[05:03] <usser> ubuntu_Begineer: suse might be even easier
[05:03] <vocx> Faintofhearts, I suppose you mean then get the whole linux kernel source and then compile it there.
[05:03] <BaD_CrC> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/699151  <-- any ideas?
[05:04] <swarm> lol thanks though ;)
[05:04] <Faintofhearts> vocx: How do I get it onto that partition though?
[05:04] <avt3kk> ubuntu is like gentoo except its easy as sht lol
[05:04] <bruenig> or arch
[05:04] <avt3kk> and does alot more out of the box
[05:04] <swarm> mmmm.... wobbly windows.. yum :)
[05:04] <bruenig> ubuntu is nothing at all like gentoo, none
[05:04] <ubuntu_Begineer> ok
[05:04] <avt3kk> how is it different?
[05:04] <bruenig> you could not have distros so fundamentally different
[05:04] <avt3kk> cant merge?
[05:05] <avt3kk> package management different
[05:05] <avt3kk> probly
[05:05] <vocx> usser, Suse? (flamewar) I tried Suse, it didn't work, I use Ubuntu.
[05:05] <ubuntu_Begineer> how much should be the ideal size of the partition for  ubuntu & suse ???
[05:05] <bruenig> it didn't work?
[05:05] <bruenig> distros are just things which package stuff, if you can get one working, you can get any of them working
[05:06] <alecw1>  I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[05:06] <vocx> Faintofhearts, well, most sources are .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz so I guess you can fetch them and place them on the partition you want.
[05:06] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: if you are going to use ubuntu seriously, I would give it around 10 gigs at least if you have the space to spare
[05:06] <Faintofhearts> Ok
[05:06] <dug> but a few gigs is enough
[05:06] <ubuntu_Begineer> & for suse ?
[05:07] <allorder> dns_56: I also installed nvidia-glx with synaptic
[05:07] <avt3kk> how can I see how much space is being used by ubuntu?
[05:07] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: I don't know about suse, i think you have to pay to get that version
[05:07] <printk> avt3kk: df
[05:07] <printk> avt3kk: df -h
[05:07] <vocx> bruenig, I know. But this was a year ago. And suse's YAST is nothing like Debian's apt. It borked my PC just with kernel updates. I basically did nothing but fresh install+updates and it borked everything. Funny.
[05:07] <dns_56> allorder: you installed the package you wanted to run in the chroot?
[05:07] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: here are other linux distros to check out, but ubuntu is most popular: http://www.distrowatch.com
[05:07] <dns_56> allorder: do other applications run also in the chroot like xterm etc
[05:07] <ubuntu_Begineer> yea but u can download it for free & burn it to a cdvd
[05:07] <avt3kk> ty print :)
[05:07] <ubuntu_Begineer> *dvd
[05:08] <bruenig> ubuntu gets the most hits per day, that is not a measurement of popularity
[05:08] <vocx> avt3kk, "df -h"
[05:08] <Born_In_Xixax> hi, i suspect my PC's hard drive has some bad sectors or is otherwise failing.  I gather i need to use 'fsck' to check it, but seems there is a catch-22 in that you can't scan/repair a partition that is mounted (I have the default partitioning scheme going.)  What do I need to do?
[05:08] <dug> no one said it was
[05:08] <allorder> dns_56: bash: xterm: command not found
[05:08] <doughboy> I got a question. The Ubuntu download site has a cd installer download for ubuntu. How do you burn this to a cd to make it bootable and install ubuntu? I figured there would be an iso file included so I could us nero or something to burn a cd image. But no the download has no such thing so what do you have to do to get the cd installer ubuntu file on a cd so you can install it?
[05:08] <printk> avt3kk: np
[05:08] <vocx> avt3kk, damn I'm slow
[05:08] <avt3kk> um I realy want to know how much room I have freespace to play with?
[05:08] <bruenig> dug, you did
[05:08] <wastrel> alecw1:  try restarting X (ctrl alt backspace)
[05:08] <dug> bruenig: show me where i said that
[05:09] <printk> avt3kk: it'll tell you that, see USed and Avail column
[05:09] <ubuntu_Begineer> Can we play games on ubuntu like windows ?
 ubuntu_Begineer: here are other linux distros to check out, but ubuntu is most popular:
[05:09] <dns_56> the synaptic is working from the chroot?
[05:09] <alecw1> wastrel: I did that already... :(
[05:09] <JerryMcFarts> Hello, I am install the server edition 7.04, and I am having a wireless issue. When It installs it see my wireless card asks for my WEP password and I connect correct, (says my dhcp is successful) then I reboot into my fresh machine and I can not find "ath0" in my ifconfig  (ifconfig -a)  or in my iwconfig. So i installed it a couple times, then I did a repair and it still sees my wireless, so I got to a shell, sudo apt-get u
[05:09] <JerryMcFarts> pdate; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; that works fine, i upgrade my kernel, i reboot out of my repair cd, no wireless.. So I am confused
[05:09] <printk> ubuntu_Begineer: games written for linux, sure
[05:09] <Born_In_Xixax> doughboy, indeed, you should be downloading an .iso, which you burn with standard tools.  What kind of file are you getting, and can you look around for the .iso itself?
[05:09] <avt3kk> ook
  ubuntu gets the most hits per day, that is not a measurement of popularity
[05:09] <dug> I get nothing from the diff
[05:09] <ubuntu_Begineer> ohh k
[05:09] <avt3kk> dev/sda7 has almost 7gbs
[05:10] <printk> df
[05:10] <bruenig> dug, think about it this way, if you are using a distro, do you go to the distro watch page everyday and click on it? I sure don't
[05:10] <printk> erm
[05:10] <irish_jnr> For my primary ubuntu partition, should i choose ext3, ext2, or fat32??
[05:10] <wastrel> alecw1:  what about removing the notification area from the panel and adding a new one
[05:10] <printk> irish_jnr: ext3
[05:10] <marx2k__> ext3
[05:10] <alecw1> I don't know how to remove it...
[05:10] <dug> bruenig is ignore yet again
[05:10] <alecw1> I have no idea where it is now
[05:10] <bruenig> dug, in fact, I am more likely to click on a distro that I don't use than one I do
[05:10] <Born_In_Xixax> irish_jnr, i think ext3 unless you have significant reasons otherwise
[05:10] <alecw1> I just have dekstop windows
[05:10] <vocx> dug, bruenig I think popularity IS measured by hype and hits per day. But this is off topic let's move one.
[05:10] <vocx> irish_jnr, ext3
[05:10] <doughboy> Yes I look for the iso but there is none. Check out the ubuntu website and see what I mean. The only alternative is the alternate cd.
[05:10] <marx2k__> ext3 for primary linux, swap for swap and if youre sharing a partition with Windows, make that Fat32
[05:10] <dug> bruenig: show me again where i said anything that you said i said
[05:11] <swarm> vocx, what exactly is the topic?
[05:11] <bruenig> dug, I just did, you said go to this site, ubuntu is the most popular, but it isn't
[05:11] <bruenig> it has most hits per day
[05:11] <irish_jnr> ok. so i have 20gb ext3 and 2gb for swap. Is that enough
[05:11] <dug> bruenig: i pointed him to distrowatch, and I told him ubuntu is the most popular.  look up "clause" in the dictionary
[05:11] <doughboy> I could install efty which I have a bootable cd for and upgrade to feisty but that is way too much trouble.
[05:11] <vocx> swarm, this is ubuntu support channel. Only support help issues here. Discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <swarm> cool. :)
[05:11] <bruenig> dug, you did it specifically in context referencing distro watch, also you do not have any support for it being popular anyways beyond that
[05:12] <allorder> dns_56: what package i should install ?
[05:12] <swarm> i have a question. I have another computer with an 80gb hdd...
[05:12] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I don't have the permissions to extract it to the partition. Any idea how I can get them? Just running in root wasn't enough.
[05:12] <wangensh> what's the release time of ubuntu7.10
[05:12] <swarm> vista is on 70gb, ubuntu on 10 gb
[05:12] <Matthew_> how do you recover your account so it can do sudo again
[05:12] <printk> wangensh: 10/07 :)
[05:12] <dug> bruenig: you just made 2 separate points in one sentence.  yay, guess what, i did the same thing
[05:12] <Matthew_> mine locked me out of using sudo
[05:12] <swarm> how would you resize it so ubuntu is on a larger partition?
[05:12] <wastrel> Wanderer:  sometime in october
[05:12] <Born_In_Xixax> doughboy, is what you are looking for here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[05:12] <wastrel> er, sorry wangensh
[05:12] <buttercups> irish_jnr:  perfect
[05:12] <bruenig> dug, you are stretching, its fun to watch though, I applaud your backpedalling efforts
[05:12] <wangensh> are you sure?
[05:12] <dirtyhand> so I just installed a ton of packages on a new ubuntu server install... how can I make an image or save this so i dont have to do the whole thing again
[05:12] <dug> bruenig: i'm going to have to /ignore you again i see
[05:13] <printk> wangensh: hence 7.10 version number?
[05:13] <dug> a lot of tards in the channel
[05:13] <bruenig> I am glad to have a concession even one without an admittance of being wrong
[05:13] <joatmon> im a linux noob
[05:13] <wangensh> huh
[05:13] <vocx> Faintofhearts, no, root is enough. Most probably the partition is not mounted or something. Post the /etc/fstab in the pastebin?
[05:13] <dns_56> allorder: if you are using synaptic from within the chroot you should have the xlibs setup, if you also installed the application you want from synaptic it should also work
[05:13] <dug> bruenig i didn't say a single thing wrong, so shut it
[05:13] <marx2k__> swarm, you can use the GParted to shrink/expand partitions
[05:13] <bruenig> holy crap, I pierced the ignore
[05:13] <bruenig> I am amazing
[05:13] <marx2k__> though it can take a long time if you have a lotof data to shrink/expand
[05:14] <allorder> dns_56: Im trying to run a game under chroot
[05:14] <swarm> marx2k__, it shows up with a padlock and asks if i have installed the proper plugin for that partition.
[05:14] <Kazero> Can someone link me to that open source burning program to burn the ISO from windows?
[05:14] <wangensh> I want to know,ubuntu 3d desktop can use on my ibm t43?
[05:14] <bruenig> dug, also I recognized that you didn't admit to being wrong, calm down, we know that you didn't admit to it, just conceded my point
[05:14] <marx2k__> swarm: try unmounting it
[05:14] <un_dave> another question for you all... i have xinerama working with 3 monitors at the moment, and was wondering if it's possible to get windows to go onto the appropriate panel, depending on which monitor i have them on
[05:14] <wastrel> wangensh:  i have it running on my t42
[05:14] <dug> bruenig: ok, tell me what point i conceded, you troll
[05:14] <gnurph> what's the command to initiate a dhcp request?
[05:14] <marx2k__> also, I would use the GParted LiveCD
[05:14] <bruenig> gnurph, dhclient interface
[05:14] <wastrel> gnurph:  sudo dhclient
[05:14] <wangensh> oh
[05:14] <gnurph> ty
[05:15] <joatmon> can some one  help a linux noob  , so i can get my dual  monitors and working  on a dell dim 3000
[05:15] <marx2k__> joatmon: what kind of vidcard
[05:15] <dug> !twinview | joatmon
[05:15] <ubotu> joatmon: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:15] <swarm> same thing. marx2k__
[05:15] <dug> google for twinview ubuntu joatmon, that will give a few tutorials perhaps
[05:15] <marx2k__> swarm: what kind of partition is it? Fat32? NTFS?
[05:15] <swarm> ntfs
[05:16] <doughboy> thanks I will try that link and see the results.  I know the file size is the same as the one I am getting from the link just provided. Who knows just happy to get the right one and move on along.
[05:16] <joatmon> coll thanks for the links checking them out now
[05:16] <un_dave> joatmon: i just set that up with 3 monitors on an nvidia cards, shouldnt be too hard
[05:16] <swarm> it is vista.
[05:16] <Born_In_Xixax> wangensh, i have it working fine on t43p
[05:16] <dns_56> allorder: well i have not tried running games in a chroot but it should work, not sure how opengl works in a chroot though, is it possible to build a 64 bit version yourself or is it a commercial game
[05:16] <marx2k__> swarm: use the GParted LiveCD.. thats what I always use, and it always works though I havent used it with vista but it should just be normal ntfs
[05:16] <wangensh> ok,thank you
[05:16] <swarm> ok
[05:16] <irish_jnr> in my main partition, i should change the mount point from "/media/hda4" to "/" right. So it'd be that and the swap partition. Do I also choose to format them?
[05:16] <marx2k__> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:16] <junkeR> is there any fix for when using the wheel scroll over flash item in firefox?
[05:16] <swarm> downloading
[05:17] <un_dave> anyone have any ideas how to get windows to go to the appropriate panel bar thing when i move them to a different monitor ?
[05:17] <Born_In_Xixax> hi, how can i manually perform a sector-level disk scan of my boot partition?  is this possible without a boot disc?
[05:17] <giRL> sgrrrrssssse
[05:17] <marx2k__> a sector level scan, eh?
[05:18] <wastrel> junkeR:  if you find out let me know
[05:18] <Nighthawk420> KENTUCKY BEAT LOUISVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1  NO HEISMAN FOR BROHM!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[05:18] <wastrel> what sport?
[05:18] <vocx> Born_In_Xixax, isn't possible with fsck? I'm not sure.
[05:19] <vocx> wastrel, you obviously aren't into sports!
[05:19] <ubuntu_Begineer> how to check wht version of ubuntu im using ?
[05:19] <wastrel> ubuntu_Begineer:  lsb_release -a
[05:19] <irish_jnr>  in my main partition, i should change the mount point from "/media/hda4" to "/" right. So it'd be that and the swap partition. Do I also choose to format them?
[05:19] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: system->administration->system monitor
[05:19] <un_dave> vocx: not everyone here is in america :P
[05:20] <vocx> un_dave, indeed!
[05:20] <wastrel> no i'm in the US.   just don't follow sports
[05:20] <irish_jnr> can someone answer my last question please. ill give you a cookie
[05:20] <Nighthawk420> FOOTBALL
[05:20] <ShackJack> HI all - reformatting a second hard drive with gparted as ext3 - is it recommended I use "round to cylinders" option or not..   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:20] <irish_jnr> ok, thaks marx2k
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  partof that is rounding.. :) and the reserved space.
[05:20] <dug> irish_jnr: yes, one partition is "/" and one is swap, that sounds good, and format them (ext3 or whatever)
[05:20] <marx2k__> ShackJack: : Isnt that just the formatted capacity of 74GB?
[05:21] <swarm> besides compiz-fusion, what other eyecandy is available?
[05:21] <Grungebunny> im thinking about buying a thumb drive.. are there any particular makes or models that work best with ubuntu?
[05:21] <Grungebunny> swarm emerald
[05:21] <bruenig> Grungebunny, they all do
[05:21] <swarm> besides beryl, etc... i mean other than that KIND
[05:21] <ubuntu_laptop> oops too late
[05:21] <swarm> yeah i have emerald too
[05:21] <bruenig> Grungebunny, look on the box, most of them even mention linux on them, referring to the kernel of course
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> Grungebunny: they likekly all work... you just have to format them to a filesystem ubuntu can see.
[05:21] <dug> Grungebunny: don't get a flash drive with U3 stuff on it, preferably
[05:21] <swarm> its pretty.
[05:21] <bruenig> most thumbdrives, those under 2 gigs at least are formatted fat16
[05:22] <Grungebunny> dug so avoid the flash drive?
[05:22] <ShackJack> marx2k__: Dr_willis - it seems like a lot of space for rounding - and I don't know what the reserved space is? I though maybe turning off the "round to cylinders" options would lessen that?
[05:22] <Grungebunny> will formatting a thumb drive for use on ubuntu a pretty easy thing to do or is it a pain in the a$$ ?
[05:22] <dug> Grungebunny: there are flash drives with or without U3 stuff on it.  without is preferable, otherwise you have to run a u3 uninstaller to get the partitions and space back
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> i've got USB hard drives, and none of them have ever given me an issue after formatting them.
[05:22] <bruenig> Grungebunny, you will not likely need to format it
[05:22] <vocx> ShackJack, are you sure you aren't confusing Gigabytes with Gibibytes. Search wikipedia. One is powers of ten, the other powers of two.
[05:22] <avt3kk> is there a version of ubuntu that runs from a floppy disk?
[05:23] <vocx> avt3kk, no
[05:23] <avt3kk> y
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: ive always formatted mine in ext3, maybe its not necessary, i don't know, never tried it anyother way
[05:23] <irish_jnr> 1.4mb im guessing
[05:23] <bruenig> mine are all in fat16 still
[05:23] <doughboy> Anyway thanks again all. I wait for the download to finish and hopefully this time success. Get the duel boot system up and running and retire for the evening. woohoo
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[05:23] <marx2k__> shack, for every gigabyte you lose about 74MB so do the math.. I dont know if it adds up but thats the normal standard for data loss on a formatted drive
[05:24] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, ext3 won't read on random windows boxes which severely limits their usability
[05:24] <ShackJack> vocx: I'm just looking at what gparted and nautilus are reporting... gparted says its a 74.6 GB drive and when done nautilus reads 69.5 GB... I seem to be missing 5 GB - and the drive is a n 80 GB
[05:24] <vocx> Grungebunny, yeah what others have said. Thumb drives usually just work.
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: true.. but i'm to the point i don't mess with windows boxes anymore..lol
[05:24] <dug> Grungebunny: a lot of flash drives you have to format to be able to boot to them, i had to do that with a number of them: http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm
[05:24] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, yeah right now the only use I have for it is to dump stuff I need to print on it and go to places where I can print for free to save money
[05:24] <hum-knux> sorry but can anybody help me?
[05:24] <irish_jnr> failed to mount partitions...what does that mean
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: makes sense
[05:25] <vocx> !ask | hum-knux
[05:25] <ubotu> hum-knux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> means it failed to mount a partition.
[05:25] <JerryMcFarts> Hello, I have an unbuntu installing question. Could I ask my question here?
[05:25] <marx2k__> Shack, did you do the math?? :) ~74MB per GIG
[05:25] <bruenig> JerryMcFarts, yes
[05:25] <irish_jnr> mounting to me means getting onto a horse
[05:26] <irish_jnr> is linux trying to ride a horse...smartass
[05:26] <hum-knux> ok well I had red hat but I just changed to ubuntu and now when I am trying to install bcm43xxx  it says that ---- ERROR were encountered while processing ;
[05:26] <bruenig> !attitude | irish_jnr
[05:26] <ubotu> irish_jnr: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> bruenig, I install ubuntu and during the install it sees my wireless card no problem, but when i boot into the freshly installed drive
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> it doesn't see my wireless card
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: wel,l you'll learn a whole different meaning for mount as you learn linux.
[05:26] <bruenig> !enter | JerryMcFarts
[05:26] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:26] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:26] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx
[05:26] <dug> read that one yourself then bruenig and stop being a troll here
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, sorry
[05:26] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[05:26] <bruenig> dug, I think most would vouch for my not being a troll
[05:26] <hum-knux> red hat cluster suite
[05:26] <ShackJack> marx2k__: So are you saying nautilus is reporting the base 10 and gparted is reporting the base 2 or something? Why are they reporting different numbers? The drive is an "80 GB" drive which comes to about 75 GB...
[05:26] <hum-knux> and sysem config cluster
[05:27] <Dr_willis> and the 5% or so reserved space...
[05:27] <mike01> anyone here booting a vista install on a physical disk in vmware?
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, lol thanks
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <bruenig> dug, also, I am not asking for help so it wouldn't apply to me...
[05:27] <marx2k__> Shack: beats me man... I just know that the standard is to lose 74MB per gig of formatted capacity :) Thats all Im saying
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, you are a bot eh?
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> lol
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !bot
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[05:27] <dug> bruenig: i wasn't asking for your "help" either, think twice next time before harrassing people here you disagree with
[05:27] <ubuntu_Begineer> can anybody please tell me how to install ntfs-3g ??
[05:27] <Andex> How do I disable syscalls on auditd? In my audit log, I keep seeing annoying cron entries being executed.
[05:27] <bruenig> dug, there was no harrassment, just a correction of someone who was wrong
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> !thanks | JerryMcFarts
[05:27] <irish_jnr> well, during the installation, it said it failed to "mount" and to close any programs that might be using it? I dont have any other programs running
[05:27] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:28] <ShackJack> marx2k__: O.K. then if nautilus and gparted are reporting same scale then I seem to be losing 5GB,,,
[05:28] <JerryMcFarts> IndyGunFreak, lol
[05:28] <bruenig> dug, as this channel is a volunteer channel, it is necessary to do so at times, you can feel free as well
[05:28] <vocx> ShackJack, well the file system needs some reserved space for managment and other things, that's the only think I can think of. I'd say don't worry. Or buy a bigger drive.
[05:28] <dug> bruenig: harrassment is not your judgment to make
[05:28] <bruenig> dug, nor is it yours
[05:28] <Andex> Does anyone know anything about auditd?
[05:28] <dug> bruenig: ok, so you are saying you are not a troll then
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  you can use the tune2fs command to reduce the reserved space to like 1% get a few gb back
[05:28] <dug> !ops | bruenig
[05:28] <ubotu> bruenig: Help!  Its a reserve space in case the users fill; up the HD.. root still has some reserved space to work with.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  it gets a bit large with todays huge hd's
[05:29] <ShackJack> Can anyone tell me about "round to cylinders" in gparted? Is that a recommended option - scouring docs but can't find...
[05:29] <ubuntu_laptop> dug: you keep coming in here and calling people trolls, please stop doing that
[05:29] <jrib> dug, bruenig: let's just drop it and get back ontopic please
[05:30] <bruenig> I was for about 20 min
[05:30] <bruenig> I don't know what happened
[05:30] <marx2k__> Shack: I wouldnt mess with it too much since youre really not losig that much space.. in $ sense, youre losing about $4 :)
[05:30] <dug> he made a mistake, and wouldn't accept being wrong, and kept at it and at it, that's a troll
[05:30] <bruenig> hmmm
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:30] <marx2k__> yeah welcome  to the internet ;)
[05:31] <dug> exactly
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> dug: no it isnt maybe stubborn bu as jrib stated please drop it
[05:31] <marx2k__> Welcome to the Internet. YOU FAIL
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> s/bu/but
[05:31] <vocx> dug, I think many people around can tell bruenig has been a good help here so please try to understand him. I believe at this point we trust bruenig more than you.
[05:31] <Andex> Does anyone know anything about auditd?
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> vocx: please drop it
[05:32] <marx2k__> Does anyone else here run Azureus and have an issue with it not quitting when you tell it to? (It remains a background process)
[05:32] <vocx> ubuntu_laptop, sorry. I have huge 100s lag!
[05:32] <dug> marx2k__: that's azureus' standard behavior
[05:32] <marx2k__> dug: No, I dont mean minimize to the taskbar
[05:32] <marx2k__> I mean like you select File/Quit and you then manually have to kill -9 it
[05:32] <hum-knux> help guys I had  RedHat for a while but did not like it so I changed to Ubuntu but now that I am trying to install bcm43xxx-fwclutter so my pc can get wireless it is giving me errors
[05:32] <hum-knux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:32] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:32] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx-fwclutter
[05:32] <hum-knux> redhat-cluster-suite
[05:32] <hum-knux> system-config-cluster
[05:32] <Andex> marx2k__ never trust anything that was written in java :)
[05:32] <dug> marx2k__: it waits to close connections nicely
[05:32] <Mez> !paste | hum-knux
[05:32] <ubotu> hum-knux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <marx2k__> Andex, HEY! Im a budding java programmer :)
[05:33] <marx2k__> dug: OH! Is that whats going on? Well its taking a hell of a long time
[05:33] <irish_jnr> ok what does this mean...."The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted. /media/BOOTIT\04EMBR" PLease close any apps using these mount points...??? :'(
[05:33] <Andex> Why!
[05:33] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I have the kernel installed... now what will I need to start command line? bin and something else... what?
[05:33] <marx2k__> I sigsev the thing every time
[05:33] <Andex> Learn a useful program compared to Java, like lisp.
[05:33] <vocx> hum-knux, I don't even know what you are trying to do. Maybe learn to use apt-get before everything else.
[05:33] <ubuntu_Begineer> im using ubuntu 5.10 , Does ntfs-3g supports my version ?
[05:33] <marx2k__> Andex: I like open programming and its in demand for the time being
[05:33] <Dr_willis> REXX is fun :)
[05:33] <Andex> Yeah it is, my company is killing for java programmers :-p.
[05:33] <dug> !offtopic | Andex
[05:33] <ubotu> Andex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_Begineer: maybe its time to upgrade.
[05:34] <ubuntu_Begineer> is there any online upgrade avalible or i have to download the whole cd ?
[05:34] <irish_jnr> anyone answer the question above please?
[05:34] <hum-knux> help guys I had  RedHat for a while but did not like it so I changed to Ubuntu but now that I am trying to install bcm43xxx-fwclutter so my pc can get wireless it is giving me errors
[05:34] <marx2k__> I wish linux specific torrent programs had a ping-based auto-speed functionality like azureus :( Id switch quickly
[05:34] <hum-knux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:34] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:34] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx-fwclutter
[05:34] <hum-knux> redhat-cluster-suite
[05:34] <hum-knux> system-config-cluster
[05:34] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: download the cd and install from scratch.  backup and copy over your important files if need be
[05:34] <vocx> Faintofhearts, I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to do. I think that is too advanced for me. You seem to be making your own Linux distro at this point. Better read some serious documentation and mailing lists.
[05:34] <hum-knux> mine too
[05:35] <jrib> hum-knux: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead of pasting into the channel
[05:35] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_Begineer: you could probably upgrade to Dapper, thent o Edgy, then to Feisty, but it would take forever, be easiest to just clean install feisty
[05:35] <Faintofhearts> vocx: That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Know where I can find any documentation?
[05:35] <marx2k__> Faint: google Linux From Scratch
[05:35] <ubuntu_Begineer> ok thanx
[05:35] <marx2k__> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[05:35] <nalioth> hum-knux: pasting into irc channels is considered extremely rude.  It is also unproductive and disruptive.  Please use a !pastebin next time
[05:35] <Faintofhearts> Alright, thanks vocx and marx2k.
[05:36] <vocx> Faintofhearts, no problemo
[05:36] <QueenAnya> I have mindspring mail and it keeps saying I have the inncorect password and I have the right one??
[05:36] <JerryMcFarts> ubuntu_Begineer,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu?
[05:36] <hum-knux> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:36] <bruenig> QueenAnya, not really an ubuntu problem per se, I mean does it work on other OSes?
[05:36] <vocx> !customlivecd | Faintofhearts maybe you also want something like this
[05:36] <ubotu> Faintofhearts maybe you also want something like this: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:36] <ShackJack> So does anyone know what "round to cylinders" means when formatting in gparted? There is amazingly no info in docs, forums, etc...
[05:36] <marx2k__> whoa, I remember mindspring..
[05:37] <QueenAnya> its on evolution mail
[05:37] <hum-knux> so anybody can help me with my wireless internet?
[05:37] <ubuntuexp> hello
[05:37] <jacob> anybody uses avast antivirus?
[05:37] <nalioth> jacob: try ##windows
[05:37] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, private message me
[05:37] <QueenAnya> umm I am only having a problem on this computer
[05:38] <dug> there is an avast for linux now
[05:38] <bruenig> QueenAnya, so on other computers, the password that you are providing works?
[05:38] <Fr0> so, I apt-get'd bcm43xx-fwcutter, and accidentally hit "yes" to the question of whether I wanted to automatically grab the firmware.  Now, it won't install because of a 404 error.  Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[05:39] <jacob> nalioth ##windows is a channel about programs?
[05:39] <nalioth> jacob: ##windows is about Windows.  XP 2000 Vista 98 Me
[05:39] <ubuntuexp> I have 2566 MB RAm and whenever I run firefox it eats up lot of RAM & swap space. Is there any other browser that has features equivalent with firefox?
[05:39] <dug> Fr0: you might just uninstall and reinstall it
[05:39] <bruenig> windows bob
[05:39] <QueenAnya> bruenig: yeah it works fine except for when I use it on evolution mail I have two accounts and only one will work
[05:39] <bruenig> don't forget good ole bob
[05:39] <Fr0> dug: tried that... did apt-get remove, clean and install... still had the same problem
[05:39] <jacob> nalioth, i'm talking about avast for linux
[05:40] <jacob> nalioth there is a version of avast for linux
[05:40] <nalioth> jacob: ok
[05:40] <hum-knux> hey JerryMcFarts are you there?
[05:40] <bruenig> jacob, it scans for windows viruses though still
[05:40] <Grungebunny> is it open source?
[05:40] <vocx> ShackJack, every hard drive has cylinders. When you select and arbitrary partition like 67 GB it gets rounded to those cylinders; each one is like 8 MB, so that's the smallest partition you have. It is a good thing. use it.
[05:40] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, yea private message me
[05:40] <hum-knux> I am PM'ing you
[05:40] <ubuntuexp> avast instead of firefox?
[05:40] <jacob> so does anybody know how to update the definitions for avast antivirus?
[05:40] <tico> hellow people
[05:40] <dug> Fr0: I don't know, maybe try the --purge option when you remove it
[05:41] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, haven't got anything from you yet
[05:41] <nalioth> avast is not open source
[05:41] <vocx> hum-knux, unregistered users cannot use private messages.
[05:41] <jacob> anybody?
[05:41] <hum-knux> I did
[05:41] <JerryMcFarts> ahhh
[05:41] <ShackJack> vocx: O.k. it is surpisingly difficult to find any insightful information about "round to cylinders" on the web...
[05:41] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: hum-knux: unidentified people can not send /msgs on this network
[05:41] <Grungebunny> hum-knux is your nick registered? it has to be to send IM's I belive
[05:41] <marx2k__> Shack:I agree. I just googled for the term and found nothing conclusive
[05:41] <vocx> ShackJack, I assume it is somewhat an easy concept to grasp. Check wikipedia articles on hard drives.
[05:42] <Fr0> dug: that did the trick...thanks
[05:42] <irish_jnr> how do you unmount a partition
[05:42] <ubuntu_laptop> jacob: you might want to try #avast or #ubuntu-offtopic since ubuntu doesnt support it
[05:42] <bruenig> irish_jnr, you can sudo umount /mount/point or sudo umount /dev/name
[05:42] <dug> ShackJack: just have it round to cylinders, it only make a few megabytes difference
[05:42] <irish_jnr> great thanks bruenig.
[05:42] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, how do you register?
[05:43] <tico> somebody knows how to install or update firefox to the version firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz?
[05:43] <vocx> !register | JerryMcFarts
[05:43] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:43] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: hum-knux: /msg nickserv help register
[05:43] <bruenig> !info firefox
[05:43] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[05:43] <bruenig> tico, the latest one is in the repos already
[05:43] <bruenig> tico, assuming you are using fawn
[05:43] <marx2k__> lately firefox has been getting sluggish on my one box and I cant figure out why
[05:43] <NemesisD> hi guys, i keep having to wrestle with ndiswrapper to get my wireless going, how do i add an interface, my wlan0 has completely disappeared off of my system, even though its in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:44] <tico> bruenig: the problem is I use dapper drake!
[05:44] <dug> NemesisD: what wireless card do you have
[05:44] <bruenig> tico, yeah, well basically what you do is extract the directory and then run the executable in there called surprisingly "firefox"
[05:44] <NemesisD> dug, usb, dlink dwl-g132, i believe it uses an atheros chipset
[05:44] <vocx> marx2k__, some pages maybe rendered slow. I been told this is because the "gecko" engine mozilla browsers use.
[05:44] <NemesisD> dug, i even had it working all day yesterday and today, its bizarre
[05:44] <Crustacean-bob> Gnome theme?
[05:44] <andruk> i installed mythbuntu, and im trying to install gnome, but my networking is down
[05:44] <marx2k__> vocx, well not only that but it has also started having a huge footprit
[05:44] <bruenig> tico, there is no formalized installation, just a pre compiled directory
[05:44] <marx2k__> footprint
[05:45] <tico> i try it but it do not work
[05:45] <marx2k__> Im wondering if its some plugin im using or what
[05:45] <odinsravens> hello
[05:45] <tico> bruening: ok thanks !
[05:45] <Crustacean-bob> Anyone know where I can find themes?
[05:46] <marx2k__> Crustacean-bob: for what
[05:46] <Crustacean-bob> GNome