[01:51] <mup> Bug #1929478 opened: Commissioning fails with binary data in IPMI Lan_Conf_Security_Keys <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929478>
[04:54] <mup> Bug #1929507 opened: Files in /proc/net/vlan are being set to 0600 permissions <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929507>
[05:00] <mup> Bug #1929507 changed: Files in /proc/net/vlan are being set to 0600 permissions <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929507>
[05:03] <mup> Bug #1929507 opened: Files in /proc/net/vlan are being set to 0600 permissions <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929507>
[08:27] <parlos> Good Morning MAAS.  Im running 3.0.0-rc1 (snap). For some reason the dhcpd does not handle the default VLANS that maas is to 'provide dhcp' on. There are two numbered vlans, those are handled. Initially the default vlans were not in the dhcpd.conf, but after a couple enable/disable of dhcp for that vlan, they appeared. But in the dhcpd-interfaces, they do not show up.
[08:34] <mup> Bug #1898808 changed: unable to deploy 20.04(focal) w/ default kernel for sut after images update on Oct 5 <apport-collected> <bionic> <blocks-hwcert-server> <focal> <uec-images> <MAAS:Fix Released> <linux (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898808>
[08:37] <mup> Bug #1898808 opened: unable to deploy 20.04(focal) w/ default kernel for sut after images update on Oct 5 <apport-collected> <bionic> <blocks-hwcert-server> <focal> <uec-images> <MAAS:Fix Released> <linux (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898808>
[08:40] <mup> Bug #1898808 changed: unable to deploy 20.04(focal) w/ default kernel for sut after images update on Oct 5 <apport-collected> <bionic> <blocks-hwcert-server> <focal> <uec-images> <MAAS:Fix Released> <linux (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898808>
[12:16] <mup> Bug #1929552 opened: [maas_3.0.0~rc1 testing] maas login fails <cdo-qa> <cdo-release-blocker> <foundation-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929552>
[15:29] <mup> Bug #1929576 opened: Machines fail to commission using the 3.0 snap due to possible? DNS issue <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929576>
[16:05] <mup> Bug #1929581 opened: MAAS does not provide DHCP on default VLANs <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929581>
[19:44] <mup> Bug #1929604 opened: Can not use proxmox power driver with more than one vm <bmc> <constraint> <power> <proxmox> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929604>
[19:47] <mup> Bug #1929604 changed: Can not use proxmox power driver with more than one vm <bmc> <constraint> <power> <proxmox> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929604>
[19:56] <mup> Bug #1929604 opened: Can not use proxmox power driver with more than one vm <bmc> <constraint> <power> <proxmox> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929604>


[17:56] <jbicha> ricotz: could you push your latest changes to git.launchpad.net/zeitgeist ? that's the official repo, right?
[17:58] <ricotz> jbicha, actually https://cgit.freedesktop.org/zeitgeist is but yeah I pushed it to lp now too
[17:59] <jbicha> is it possible for you to set up LP to just mirror that other git repo then?
[18:09] <ricotz> jbicha, I guess I would have to delete the existing on launchpad somehow?
[18:14] <jbicha> https://code.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+configure-code
[18:18] <ricotz> jbicha, ok, deleted the "old" one and imported it from freedesktop
[18:18] <ricotz> still this doesnt feel like it will be synced automatically now
[18:20] <jbicha> https://code.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/+git/zeitgeist says next import will run in 5 hours so it should be automatic
[18:21] <ricotz> ah ok
[18:26] <jbicha> here's an example: https://code.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/graphene/+git/graphene
[18:27] <jbicha> I set that up a month ago
[18:27] <ricotz> ok, so it should work now as is
[18:45] <Kurvivor> hello!
[18:45] <Kurvivor> i am stuck in hell, that is a never-ending cycle of failing attempts to display gnome login screen
[18:46] <Kurvivor> which switches me out of somewhat working text terminal
[18:46] <Kurvivor> how do i stop that?
[18:47] <Kurvivor> this is my gdm status: http://termbin.com/fj9c


[02:52] <pabs3> infinity, cjwatson: any thoughts on my question about segfaults in netcfg?
 I noticed that with "d-i netcfg/enable boolean false" in preseeding, netcfg from the Ubuntu precise 12.04.1 segfaults. is this a known bug? any suggested workaround?
 er s/segfaults/alternate installer segfaults/
 this is in an i386 vm with virt-install & kvm
 found a workaround; set static network with bogus addresses in the 127.x range
[07:56] <FourDollars> Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.04 netboot by a customazied preseed.cfg. I am wondering why the settings of preseed.cfg are not propagated into the root filesystem under /target ? How can I provide the preseed.cfg for the root filesystem under /target ?
[07:57] <cjwatson> FourDollars: Anything whose owner (the first field) isn't "d-i" is copied into the target system
[07:58] <cjwatson> So use d-i to preseed the installer, and other owners - typically the package owning the templates in question - to preseed the installed system.  This is explained in the installation guide
[08:00] <FourDollars> cjwatson: I see. Thank you.
[08:07] <FourDollars> cjwatson: Does 'grub-pc' use "ubiquity grub-installer/bootdev" or something else to specify the boot loader location to install?
[08:09] <FourDollars> Or grub-pc/install_devices ?
[08:20]  * FourDollars is trying 'grub-pc grub-pc/install_devices multiselect /dev/sda'.
[09:22] <cjwatson> FourDollars: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[09:23] <cjwatson> I don't recommend preseeding grub-pc/install_devices directly during initial system installation, even though that is the final destination; grub-installer handles that itself.  Use 'd-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/sda' as per the guide (ignoring the way it uses GRUB Legacy-style "(hd0,0)" naming).
[09:24] <cjwatson> (Please note I'm on holiday today; further replies will be arbitrarily delayed ...)
[09:24] <FourDollars> cjwatson: thanks a lot.
[09:24] <FourDollars> cjwatson: I see.
[09:26] <FourDollars> cjwatson: I have tried 'd-i grub-installer/bootdev string (hd0)' but it doesn't work. I will try 'd-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/sda' to see the result.
[09:26] <FourDollars> cjwatson: Have a good time. :)
[09:27] <cjwatson> Indeed, I'm not sure I'd expect (hd0) to work any more.
[09:27] <cjwatson> I've tried to excise references to that style but may not have got them all.


[00:21] <thafreak> haha, yeah i meant the distro
[00:21] <thafreak> not the clone of pine
[00:22] <thafreak> It's one of the few built on top of musl c lib
[00:22]  * Unit193 uses the MUA, fwiw. :P
[00:23] <Unit193> I've seen alpine linux a few times, hence why I actually knew what it was.  Don't believe I ever poked it with a stick though.
[00:31] <thafreak> so far, i kind of like it, especially for making docker images.
[00:31] <Unit193> I don't docker. :D
[00:31] <thafreak> my docker images are about half the size of the debian ones, which were the smallest ones I've had up to now
[00:32] <thafreak> well, when you start docker'ing, now you know :)
[01:35] <dzho> thafreak: in re the distro, I see grsecurity sort of seems to be approaching the bitkeeper approach
[01:37]  * belkinsa is going to OLF
[13:50] <dzho> belkinsa: cool!  you commuting down or staying in town?
[23:51] <belkinsa> Staying
[23:51] <belkinsa> And I'm going up, not down.  I'm from Cici.


[00:05] <ari_stress> good morning all :D
[08:44] <Jade1> LTSP did not work "out-of-the-box"   any pointers, URLs, tips ?
[13:05] <daya> ogra, edubuntu 7.10 doesn't implement the nfs, how does the client then mount the remote partition
[13:06] <daya> I can't get login in the client until I run the command ltsp-update-sshkeys or images command
[13:08] <daya> ogra, sorry if you don't get, I am talking these in LTSP
[13:09] <Jade1> LTSP did not work "out of the box" for me with 7.10 . . . any suggestions, tips, URLs . . ?
[13:19] <daya> Jade1, 7.10 edubuntu it works on me
[13:43] <reiner> test
[13:46] <Jade1> which I/F plugs upstream, daya ?
[13:47] <daya> Jade1, I don'g get you, But 7.10 works when IP is changed to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:47] <daya> Jade1, Really I am trying to understand how it works w/o nfs,
[13:51] <Jade1> there are two ethernet interfaces (I/F) . . . . one is internal       one is external        did you use eth0 or eth1 (for which) .. ?
[13:52] <daya> Jade1, ye, actually I configure only one, to IP <IP_ADDRESS>, and point it to switch, might be eth0 I just forgot,
[13:55] <Jade1> during installation the default for primary ethernet I/F was (built-in) VIA-Rhine, and it went dynamic (DHCP - without asking me).
[13:58] <Jade1> the secondary ethernet I/F, a Realtek8139, defaulted to static <IP_ADDRESS> (this is the one we cable down to the big switches for all the clients to use)
[13:58] <Jade1> the primary (Rhine eth0) cables UP to the ISP
[14:00] <Jade1> first round of attempts at re-configuring found:
[14:00] <Jade1>  a) using gnome tool to change eth0 to static is incomplete and eth0 always needs a kickstart each reboot
[14:01] <Jade1> b) changing anything on eth1 away from defaults is ill-advised
[14:01] <Jade1> what kind of terminal are you using, daya ?
[14:08] <daya> Jade1, go to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/dhcpd.conf ,what is subnet and network specification there,
[14:09] <daya> Jade1, attach your thin client to the interface where the DHCP is configured to listen
[14:10] <daya> Jade1, I think its only the IP setting problem for you, nothing else,
[14:13] <Jade1> the answer to your question about nfs, daya    is:
[14:13] <Jade1> In order to speed up LTSP, by default, we're using NBD (Network Block
[14:13] <Jade1>                     Devices) rather than NFS
[14:14] <daya> Jade1, yes NBD do u get detail doc. about it, any url
[14:14] <Jade1> that quote is taken from the System_Help_Handbook section <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:21] <Jade1> closest this Edubuntu 7.10 machine has to your sugested conf file is a directory named
[14:21] <Jade1> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/dhcp3/
[14:21] <Jade1> it contains a file named       dhclient.conf           which is not Edubuntu-ified
[14:22] <Jade1> not relevant
[16:26] <theunixgeek> I installed all the GNUstep packages, but ProjectCenter.app doesn't launch. What do I do?
[16:33] <mattwalston> I see a an error on Thin Client Manager for all clients saying Install x11vnc on the client... how do I do this?
[18:06] <reiner_> hello who is listening?
[20:40] <johnny> hi, anybody here use sabayon and has manually repackaged a profile?
[20:41] <Burgundavia> johnny: why did you do that?
[20:41] <Burgundavia> I am assuming it isn't working?
[20:44] <johnny> i haven't
[20:44] <johnny> i can't edit the profile because a file is supposed to be in there that isn't
[20:44] <johnny> in the metadata file
[20:45] <johnny> so i do need to repackage it to allow myself to open it
[20:45] <Burgundavia> ahh
[20:45] <johnny> i just want to make sure i know how to do it right
[20:45] <johnny> cuz i open up the file in file-roller, and it doesn't even contain the metadata xml file that shows up when i unzip it manually on the cli
[20:45] <johnny> so i'm confused
[23:47] <me4u> could anyone help me
[23:56] <HedgeMage> me4u:  without knowing what you want help with, probably not
[23:56] <HedgeMage> me4u:  it helps if you just ask your question


[00:16] <lilkidd> Heyy guys i have been very frustrated lately because i installed ubuntu 10.04 on my netbook and the wireless wont work can anybody help me??


[12:25] <cbx33> mhz, pong
[12:25] <mhz> cbx33: hey, is AliasVegas around?
[12:26] <cbx33> 2 secs
[12:27] <cbx33> she is but sh'es afk
[12:27] <cbx33> what d'ya need
[12:34] <mhz> cbx33: I want to submit a ccouple of wallpapers to edubuntu
[12:34] <mhz> I have tried a.u.c but it is not possible
[12:36] <cbx33> a.u.c ?
[12:36] <cbx33> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuArtwork/Worksheet
[12:36] <cbx33> add them to the bottom of there
[12:48] <HedgeMage> LaserJock: pong... still around?
[12:51] <LaserJock> HedgeMage: nevermind, sorry. IRC problem
[12:54] <HedgeMage> np
[02:03] <LaserJock> hi jsgotangco
[02:03] <jsgotangco> hey
[02:05] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: bzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/gallium--tw
[02:05] <jsgotangco> tw?
[02:06] <LaserJock> that's Amaranth
[02:06] <jsgotangco> there's a project called gallium btw
[02:06] <LaserJock> what? bummer
[02:06] <jsgotangco> Gallium is intended  to provide a free (licensed under the GNU LGPL),
[02:06] <jsgotangco>  portable and API-compatible Carbon* emulator for the X Window System.
[02:07] <LaserJock> hmm, we'll just have to call ours gallium-ng ;-)
[02:07] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: I recommend Periodicum, which is latin for periodic
[02:07] <LaserJock> hmm, that's a little long, but I like the idea
[02:08] <Burgundavia> I believe Periodica is esperanto for the same thing
[02:08] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: anyway, run python table.py
[02:08] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: that's maybe better
[02:08] <jsgotangco> ok branching
[02:09] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: you are going to need to split out the kalzium package, so it can be installed with all the qt-crap^WWWfluff
[02:09] <LaserJock> why do we need kalzium?
[02:10] <Burgundavia> are you not using their data?
[02:10] <LaserJock> sure, it's an .xml file
[02:10] <jsgotangco> the table clipped
[02:10] <LaserJock> yeah, you gotta drag it out
[02:11] <jsgotangco> it doesnt render beyond element 103 yet
[02:11] <jsgotangco> oh wait
[02:11] <jsgotangco> it just did
[02:11] <jsgotangco> oh i just noticed it uses cairo
[02:12] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:15] <LaserJock> anyway, that's development, day 1
[02:15] <LaserJock> or so
[02:16] <Amaranth> more or less 24 hours after i started i ended up with that :)
[02:16] <LaserJock> and if lucasvo wasn't so pick with the arrows we could have gotten farther ;-)
[02:16] <LaserJock> *picky
[02:17] <Amaranth> btw, pull again and it sets the window size correctly
[02:20] <jsgotangco> ahh that's very nice
[02:22] <jsgotangco> Elements object is EVIL?
[02:22] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:23] <LaserJock> we picked that up from Kalzium I believe
[02:23] <Amaranth> jsgotangco: the position table
[02:24] <Amaranth> No one is allowed to edit it without me killing them with a spoon. :)
[02:24] <Amaranth> element_pos_table is 111 (!) column, row sets used for positioning the elements on the periodic table
[02:51] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:49] <Amaranth> hrm, i think willowng got lost on it's way to the repos
[03:51] <bddebian> Stuck in NEW?
[03:51] <LaserJock> I thought it got past NEW
[03:52] <bddebian> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=willow
[03:53] <LaserJock> hmm
[04:01] <Amaranth> it built fine
[04:01] <Amaranth> yesterday
[04:02] <Amaranth> you can even get it from https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/234365
[04:51] <lecaros> hi guys
[04:51] <bddebian> Hello lecaros
[04:52] <lecaros> bddebian hi
[06:11] <gromerotw> Hello there!
[06:13] <gromerotw> Hi!
[06:14] <LaserJock> hi gromerotw
[06:15] <gromerotw> Hello, hw are you doing?
[06:15] <LaserJock> fine, thanks
[06:15] <LaserJock> how about yourself?
[06:16] <gromerotw> Fine. Just trying to setup edubuntu but I got a lot of troubles.
[06:17] <gromerotw> Are you using edubuntu?
[06:17] <LaserJock> that's no fun
[06:17] <LaserJock> no
[06:17] <LaserJock> I mostly play around with Ubuntu
[06:17] <LaserJock> in general
[06:17] <LaserJock> I don't have an edubuntu install right now :(
[06:18] <gromerotw> Ubuntu and edubuntu are quite similar.
[06:19] <LaserJock> yes they are
[06:19] <LaserJock> especially if you do a workstation install of edubuntu
[06:20] <gromerotw> I have installed LTSP. It works fine.
[06:20] <gromerotw> My problem is that I can get sound out of wavesurfer.
[06:21] <gromerotw> It's just using the server speaker.
[06:21] <LaserJock> hmm
[06:22] <gromerotw> xmms is working fine on the client.
[06:22] <LaserJock> actually, you might get more help if you email the edubuntu-users mailing list
[06:22] <gromerotw> But I need something like wavesurfer or gnusound.
[06:23] <LaserJock> as none of the helpful people seem to be awake :(
[06:23] <gromerotw> Ok. Thank you. I will try.
[08:03] <seshomaru> hello
[08:04] <seshomaru> can edubuntu thin clients boot from a wireless network?
[08:05] <Amaranth> I think that's up to your BIOS.
[08:05] <seshomaru> you mean the bios of the client?
[08:06] <Amaranth> yeah
[08:06] <seshomaru> can i ask you another question?
[08:06] <Amaranth> I've never run Edubuntu but sure. :)
[08:06] <seshomaru> if the client doesnt have a harddisk, who detects the hardware?
[08:07] <Amaranth> I don't know enough about LTSP to answer, I would imagine the server.
[08:07] <seshomaru> when it boots? does the server detect the hardware?
[08:07] <seshomaru> i see
[08:08] <Amaranth> If you can use pxeboot with your wireless card it should work fine.
[08:08] <Amaranth> No hard drive needed, that's what it's called a thin-client. :)
[08:08] <Amaranth> err, that's why
[08:08] <seshomaru> is there somewhere i can get a list of hardware that supports linux (ubuntu...)?
[08:09] <seshomaru> i want to set many clients here but i'm afraid that their hardware is not supported because they are VERY old
[08:10] <jsgotangco> LTSP doesn't boot to a wireless network yet, AFAIK
[08:10] <seshomaru> i see
[08:10] <jsgotangco> it might be very slow if it does
[08:11] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: no pxe chips for wireless cards?
[08:11] <jsgotangco> i haven't heard of such at all
[08:11] <Burgundavia> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WirelessLTSPClientsUsingAnEthernetBridge
[08:12] <highvoltage> booting with wireless isn't quite supported yet
[08:12] <Burgundavia> even with a bootdisk?
[08:13] <seshomaru> highvoltage, wireless booting isn't supported in edubuntu or linux?
[08:13] <highvoltage> even with a bootdisk.
[08:13] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: unless, you can boot something that contains a linux kernel, and the modules for the card, which does't quit exist yet (pre-packaged and all)
[08:14] <jsgotangco> yeah
[08:14] <Burgundavia> right
[08:14] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: what's the URL of your company btw (with the kiosk images)
[08:14] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: kiosk images?
[08:15] <jsgotangco> pictures i mean
[08:15] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: it's not on our company website, but on the government agency I've been doing work for the last 3 weeks: http://www.digitaldoorway.co.za
[08:15] <jsgotangco> right thanks
[08:15] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: is that a 441
[08:15] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:15] <jsgotangco> im doing a presentation for my future boss
[08:15] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: it was
[08:16] <jsgotangco> it was
[08:16] <highvoltage> the 441 has been discontinued
[08:16] <highvoltage> so now they run Ubuntu + Xfce + a very modified Ubuntu LTSP
[08:16] <seshomaru> people , i would like to set up edubuntu in my school, is there anyone here who set up edubuntu before?
[08:16] <Burgundavia> ah, shame about Userful
[08:16] <Burgundavia> s multiseat stuff not being OSS
[08:16] <highvoltage> seshomaru: sure :)
[08:17] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: how so, what happened to Userful?
[08:17] <highvoltage> aah, yes
[08:17] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: what do you mean? I still work for them
[08:17] <seshomaru> highvoltage, can i ask you , how much control does the server have over individual clients?
[08:17] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: no, i just saw 08:16 < Burgundavia> ah, shame about Userful
[08:17] <highvoltage> and wondered what you meant
[08:17] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: read both lines together, hit enter too soon
[08:18] <highvoltage> seshomaru: you can specify which drivers and settings each machine has, but otherwise not much yet
[08:18] <seshomaru> highvoltage, i mean can i have each client to have different options, one with firefox and gimp one with just games?
[08:18] <highvoltage> seshomaru: ogra is working on a control panel for the server that would give you more control over the desktops, it's planned for a future version of edubuntu
[08:19] <seshomaru> highvoltage, what is the situation like at the moment?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> seshomaru: if you have python skills, help is always sought
[08:19] <seshomaru> Burgundavia, i'm afraid i'm not much use with python.....
[08:20] <Burgundavia> right
[08:20] <seshomaru> another question - i have a server with 1G memory , can i boot 14 clients?
[08:24] <seshomaru> you guys are there?
[08:24] <bimberi> !eduhw
[08:24] <ubotu> eduhardware is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/HardwareRequirements
[08:25] <bimberi> seshomaru: from that page - "256MB for the system and 128MB per user if they use office applications and a web browser"
[08:25] <seshomaru> bimberi, thanks, i cant open that site.....
[08:31] <seshomaru> last question , can the clients in edubuntu share files on the server?
[08:33] <seshomaru> gotta go,,,,catch you guys later,,,,
[08:33] <bimberi> seshomaru: yes
[10:19] <highvoltage> Burgwork: ping!
[11:21] <cbx33> woohoo
[11:21] <cbx33> finally I can connect with my gprs phone
[11:22] <cbx33> now I just need cheep calls
[11:22] <cbx33> right I'm off...back soon with a proper connection :D
[11:26] <FiberOptics> hi cbx33
[11:26] <FiberOptics> wb
[11:26] <cbx33> Hi FiberOptics
[11:26] <cbx33> ping highvoltage
[11:26] <FiberOptics> what?
[11:27] <FiberOptics> * Ping reply from highvoltage: 1.00 second(s)
[11:27] <FiberOptics> ;p
[11:27] <cbx33> FiberOptics, we use that to tell someone we wanna speak to them
[11:29] <FiberOptics> pardon?
[11:31] <FiberOptics> cbx33: what do you use? :/
[11:31] <cbx33> FiberOptics, when I said ping highvoltage
[11:31] <FiberOptics> yes
[11:32] <FiberOptics> i thought you meant for me to ping highvoltage  lol
[11:32] <FiberOptics> :p
[11:32] <FiberOptics> sorry
[11:32] <highvoltage> cbx33: send me your physical or postal address
[11:32] <highvoltage> (by e-mail, preferably)
[11:33] <cbx33> ok
[11:33] <FiberOptics> can someone help me, it's nice and quiet here, i can't keep up in #ubuntu
[11:33] <FiberOptics> i'm needing to install ubuntu alongside windows
[11:33] <cbx33> FiberOptics, what's the issue
[11:34] <FiberOptics> but i went into the installation yesterday, and didnt know how-to deal with partitioning so i quit it
[11:34] <FiberOptics> i don't want to touch windows files
[11:34] <FiberOptics> is that possible?
[11:36] <cbx33> it depends
[11:36] <cbx33> do you have free space on that disk.
[11:37] <cbx33> IE space that isn't currently assigned to a partition?
[11:37] <FiberOptics> I have C: and D: on here now
[11:37] <FiberOptics> Would it be better if I went onto ubuntu to view the partitions?
[11:37] <FiberOptics> I cant see them on windows
[11:38] <cbx33> no it's ok
[11:38] <cbx33> but yes you can see them
[11:38] <cbx33> do you got windows xp?
[11:40] <FiberOptics> yep
[11:40] <FiberOptics> xp home
[11:41] <cbx33> ok
[11:41] <cbx33> right click on my computer
[11:41] <cbx33> and goto manage
[11:43] <FiberOptics> ok
[11:43] <FiberOptics> am there
[11:44] <cbx33> ok you sohuld see disk manager some where?
[11:44] <cbx33> or manage disks?
[11:44] <FiberOptics> disk management?
[11:45] <cbx33> yes
[11:45] <cbx33> that's the one
[11:46] <FiberOptics> ok
[11:46] <FiberOptics> Recovery Partition
[11:47] <FiberOptics> Vaio (C:)
[11:47] <FiberOptics> Vaio (D:)
[11:47] <FiberOptics> I think Windows is on Vaio (C:) becuase next to it it says "Healthy (System"
[11:47] <FiberOptics> )"*
[11:47] <cbx33> ok
[11:47] <cbx33> underneath that
[11:48] <cbx33> it should have some bars
[11:48] <cbx33> which are equvilent to your disks
[11:48] <FiberOptics> yuo
[11:48] <FiberOptics> yup*
[11:48] <FiberOptics> got that
[11:49] <cbx33> ok basically....can you see if the partition use up all the space on the disk?
[11:49] <cbx33> basically add up the sizes
[11:52] <FiberOptics> it takes up 74.53GB
[11:52] <FiberOptics> so thats all of it i think
[11:52] <FiberOptics> or close to it
[11:52] <FiberOptics> HDD: 80GB
[11:52] <FiberOptics> so 6Gb free
[11:53] <wvdl> Hi folks. new kids on the canonical block. Going to be working with RichEd on the NEPAD thing
[11:53] <cbx33> hi wvdl
[11:54] <cbx33> FiberOptics, ok, by the looks of things
[11:55] <FiberOptics> =o
[11:55] <FiberOptics> cbx33: sorry about that, xchat closed, what did u say?
 FiberOptics, ok, by the looks of things
[11:55] <FiberOptics> ty
[11:55] <cbx33> hehe
[11:56] <cbx33> pygi, edubuntu will resize the ntfs partition won;t it?
[11:56] <cbx33> I've never installed it that way
[11:56] <FiberOptics> im gona do ubuntu
[11:56] <FiberOptics> would it be the same?
[11:56] <cbx33> yes
[11:56] <FiberOptics> okay
[11:56] <pygi> cbx33, it should be able to
[11:56] <FiberOptics> but it should use the free space on it, it wont delete files right?
[11:56] <pygi> FiberOptics, w00t? edubuntu's better :)
[11:57] <pygi> FiberOptics, you have the Gparted, whatever:
[11:57] <pygi> :)
[11:57] <pygi> so resize :)
[11:57] <cbx33> heheh
[11:57] <FiberOptics> so now i'll switch to ubuntu right?
[11:57] <cbx33> there is always an element of risk when playing with partitions
[11:58] <pygi> cbx33, especially NTFS =P
[11:58] <cbx33> indeed
[11:58] <FiberOptics> if i do bugger up, i can always restore right?
[11:59] <cbx33> no
[11:59] <FiberOptics> =o
[11:59] <cbx33> backup your data before you do anything
[11:59] <cbx33> standard practise
[11:59] <FiberOptics> i mean my sony restore, not windows
[11:59] <FiberOptics> ill get my data somewhere
[11:59] <FiberOptics> safe
[12:00] <cbx33> oh,....hmmm......you"should" be ble to
[12:00] <FiberOptics> ok
[12:00] <FiberOptics> dam this is risky
[12:00] <FiberOptics> ;o
[12:01] <FiberOptics> ill save my pictures and stuff, sod the music, can download that again
[12:01] <FiberOptics> leme switch to ubuntu
[12:01] <FiberOptics> brb
[12:02] <FiberOptics> where are the screen drivers saved in windows usually?
[12:02] <cbx33> screen drivers?
[12:02] <cbx33> download em from the net dude
[12:03] <FiberOptics> you can do that?
[12:03] <lucasvo> FiberOptics: you must.
[12:03] <pygi> bleh, lol :)
[12:03] <lucasvo> FiberOptics: windows driver aren't supported by linux
[12:04] <lucasvo> (but one can even get windows drivers from the net)
[12:04] <FiberOptics> lucasvo no, ubuntu is fine, its just when i come back to windows (..if i do) thats what im worried about
[12:04] <FiberOptics> because before when i went from ubuntu to windows, windows wouldnt use my screen
[12:05] <cbx33> FiberOptics, that's windows' issue
[12:05] <cbx33> not ubuntus
[12:06] <FiberOptics> yup
[12:06] <FiberOptics> brb
[12:06] <cbx33> but getting the drivers from the net is your best bet
[12:24] <FiberOptics> hi
[12:24] <FiberOptics> cbx33: now im on ubuntu
[12:26] <FiberOptics> hm
[12:27] <FiberOptics> cbx33
[12:27] <FiberOptics> http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoa4.png
[12:27] <FiberOptics> thats my partitons
[12:29] <cbx33> rodarvus, I received your mail
[12:36] <rodarvus> cbx33, thanks :)
[12:37] <cbx33> :)
[12:39] <cbx33> bbl
[01:04] <guillermo> Hello
[01:06] <Signifer> hey
[01:07] <guillermo> Hello there!
[01:53] <gromerotw> Hello
[04:14] <jsgotangco> hey guys
[04:35] <bddebian> Howdy
[07:25] <cbx33> :(
[07:25] <LaserJock> hola Pete
[07:25] <LaserJock> what?
[07:25] <LaserJock> noooo
[07:25] <cbx33> hey LaserJock
[07:25] <cbx33> yup
[07:25] <cbx33> I have the vision defects right now
[07:26] <cbx33> can't see the right side of my inbox
[07:26] <LaserJock> cbx33: my grandmother had a really bad migrane that lasted for almost a month
[07:26] <LaserJock> she finally had to go to the hospital I think
[07:26] <cbx33> yikes
[07:26] <LaserJock> but she is better now
[07:27] <LaserJock> the problem was the headache was so bad she couldn't sleep, and then lack of sleep made the headache keep going, etc. etc.
[07:27] <cbx33> yikes
[07:27] <cbx33> I can feel this one starting
[07:27] <cbx33> :(
[07:29] <LaserJock> cbx33: did you happen to see the latest gallium stuff?
[07:29] <cbx33> no
[07:29] <cbx33> is it fnished?
[07:29] <LaserJock> hehe
[07:30] <LaserJock> not that far
[07:32] <cbx33> whats the news
[07:32] <cbx33> eeek
[07:32] <cbx33> bbiab
[07:32] <cbx33> head is starting to kill
[07:32] <LaserJock> well, now when you roll over the elements the pictures sho up
[07:32] <LaserJock> cbx33: yeah, go take care of the headache rather than watching text scrool by
[07:53] <cbx33> LaserJock, cool
[07:53] <cbx33> well at least I did something for gallium
[07:53] <cbx33> :D
[10:08] <bddebian> Hello
[10:08] <Signifer> Hey
[10:10] <bddebian> Hi Signifer
[11:54] <mhz> hi all
[11:54] <bddebian> Heya mhz
[11:55] <mhz> bddebian: hi ya


[12:51] <jodh> xnox: hi - could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1199778/+merge/174138 when you get a moment?
[13:25] <xnox> jodh: reviewed. Slightly confused why we need those three asserts =) looks like a timebomb waiting to explode.
[14:30] <jodh> xnox: thanks. I disagree about the timebomb bit though :)
[14:31] <xnox> jodh: so what are we asserting?
[14:31] <jodh> xnox: MP updated
[14:31] <xnox> looking
[14:33] <xnox> jodh: so you are saying it is only valid to deserialise to a completely blank state? why would that be necessary?
[14:34] <xnox> jodh: i can write a unit test that does 3 deserialise_all in a row and check that objects are correctly replaced?
[14:36] <jodh> xnox: yes, it's only valid to deserialise from a blank state.
[14:40] <xnox> jodh: and if the state is not blank, state_from_string should return error code less than 0, error condition should run - write out state_write_file, and dumn re-exec should have been run.
[14:40] <xnox> s/dumn/dump/
[14:41] <xnox> my understanding was that stateful re-exec should give up, under failure conditions.
[14:41] <xnox> but not assert.
[14:42] <jodh> xnox: I think it's probably best to raise a bug with these ideas so we can work on refining this as a separate project.
[14:42] <xnox> ok.
[14:44] <jodh> xnox: in terms of the bug at hand though, can you confirm the fix works based on my instructions on how to recreate?
[14:50] <xnox> jodh: it should. But there are a couple things I want to try though first. I'm on my laptop in bluefin, will be back at my desktop in the evening.
[14:51] <xnox> jodh: i think this bug can be caught by testing deserialisation with a dump from a system where sessions jobs are running.
[14:51] <xnox> thus it should be added as a unit test.
[14:52] <xnox> at the moment all of our files are without sessions.
[14:55] <jodh> xnox: agreed - we should add such a test.
[16:12] <xnox> jodh: so, it still fails for me.
[16:12] <xnox> not sure if there is something wrong with my test.
[16:12] <xnox> see: https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/upstart/bug-1199778/+merge/174235
[16:13] <xnox> or just branch lp:~xnox/upstart/bug-1199778 and build/run the test_conf test.
[16:13] <xnox> this branch has your fix merged.
[16:14] <jodh> xnox: is it crashing in the same place? assert/backtrace?
[16:14] <xnox> ...with unflushed data
[16:14] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:14] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:14] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:14] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:14] <xnox> (null): Failed to resolve deserialisation dependencies
[16:14] <xnox> test_state: tests/test_state.c:3371: test_session_upgrade: Assertion `(state_from_string (json_string)) == 0' failed.
[16:14] <xnox> jodh: I wonder if the pastebin that I fetched from the VM was incomplete serialisation (well chopped off due to size)
[16:16] <jodh> xnox: well, is it valid json? what does "json_pp < file.json" do?
[16:18] <xnox> json_pp spins at 100%.....
[16:19] <xnox> produced formatted output, let me rerun again to see the exit status
[16:19] <xnox> exited with 0, so it's all of it.
[16:26] <jodh> xnox: I think gdb may be required to establish where the failure is being indicated :)
[16:27] <xnox> it's weird.
[16:27] <xnox> so running without the silly automake runner.
[16:27] <xnox> Testing upgrade tests
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-1.6.json'
[16:27] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-1.8.json'
[16:27] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-pre-security.json'
[16:27] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-1.8+apparmor.json'
[16:27] <xnox> (null): No ConfSources present in state data
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-1.8+full_serialisation-apparmor.json'
[16:27] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-1.8+full_serialisation+apparmor.json'
[16:28] <xnox> ...with data file 'upstart-session.json'
[16:28] <xnox> (null): Failed to resolve deserialisation dependencies
[16:28] <xnox> test_state: tests/test_state.c:3371: test_session_upgrade: Assertion `(state_from_string (json_string)) == 0' failed.
[16:28] <xnox> Aborted (core dumped)
[16:28] <xnox> So all of them have no confsources present.... which is well totally not true.
[16:30] <xnox> jodh: going back to before your fix also has "No ConfSources present in state data" messages printed....
[16:30] <xnox> which I guess is correct, since only full_serialisation introduced thsoe.
[16:30] <jodh> xnox: correct.
[16:31] <xnox> jodh: is it expected for chroot deserialisation to fail resolving dependencies...?
[16:33] <jodh> xnox: slightly bizarrely, chroot sessions are not deserialised - they are detected, then ignored with a warning (see my comments on bug 1200264).
[16:34] <xnox> jodh: ok. Hm..... yet something later probs for them..... like the full deserialisation code?
[16:35] <xnox> i'll debug it.
[16:35] <xnox> jodh: have fun wherever you are off to =)
[22:27] <xnox> I guess 1-to-1 mappings don't work, if you decide to skip a couple of items from the first set, and rely on positional mapping between the two sets.........


[01:29] <Noskcaj> darkxst, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/186698027/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.gnome-color-manager_3.12.2-1ubuntu1~utopic2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[01:30] <Noskcaj> file-roller is done
[01:44] <darkxst> Noskcaj, http://pastebin.com/uFcqzb87 might work better
[01:59] <darkxst> or not
[02:03] <Noskcaj> the patch also has fuzz 1 apparently
[02:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, http://pastebin.com/5LmqEwRr should work
[04:56] <MichaelTunnell> Noskcaj: darkxst how much different will Ubuntu GNOME Beta 1 be from Final release?
[04:57] <MichaelTunnell> I want to build something based on Ubuntu GNOME but dont want to do it yet if the differences are a tone
[04:57] <MichaelTunnell> ton
[04:58] <darkxst> MichaelTunnell, there were a few changes since beta 1, but if you grab current daily should be similar to final
[04:58] <MichaelTunnell> nice thanks
[05:11] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: Quick question: Is GNOME 3.14 going to be in the PPA?
[05:11] <darkxst> ErichEickmeyer, yes in gnome3-staging, a good chunk of it is already there now
[05:12] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: Cool. I tried it out, but noticed some cosmetic issues, specifically the drop shadows not being rendered properly. Is that a known issue?
[05:12] <MichaelTunnell> a lot already there...that is cool and unexpected
[05:14] <darkxst> ErichEickmeyer, not sure, but thats like it would be an upstream theme issue maybe
[05:14] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: That depends. I've run 3.14 on openSUSE and Fedora 21 and don't have the issue.
[05:16] <darkxst> file a bug with screenshots
[05:18] <ErichEickmeyer> darkxst: Will do. Thanks!
[15:08] <MichaelTunnell> Ubuntu GNOME Daily is not booting via LiveISO in VIrtualBox
[18:45] <MichaelTunnell> weird...I tried it again and it loaded
[18:57] <MichaelTunnell> son of a...it looked like it was going to load but then it didnt so still not working on VirtualBox
[20:20] <Noskcaj> darkxst, So i don't break anything, could you please refresh http://paste.ubuntu.com/8516945/ into vino 3.12
[20:33] <darkxst> Noskcaj, https://git.gnome.org/browse/vino/commit/?id=328b2e46aef14b4204d3c20e0de40bd0a69b4229
[20:34] <darkxst> Ubuntu will need that back
[20:35] <Noskcaj> ok.
[20:35] <darkxst> once you revert that, the other patch should apply
[20:36] <Noskcaj> What was the command to revert a git commit patch?
[20:37] <darkxst> git revert <commit>
[20:38] <darkxst> and git format-patch --stdout HEAD~1
[20:38] <darkxst> to ouput patch in correct format
[20:39] <Noskcaj> I'd meant just to revert the patch taken from the website, you seem to be thinking i have the git locally
[20:40] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you need to have git locally!
[20:40] <Noskcaj> sigh
[20:40] <darkxst> website can't revert patches
[20:41] <darkxst> git clone git://git.gnome.org/vino
[20:47]  * Noskcaj is pretty sure this will break something
[20:47] <darkxst> Noskcaj, 18be3c5546172bce551b65d60ec2c931bc451398 will be problematic for ubuntu as well
[20:47] <MichaelTunnell> darkxst: Noskcaj which ppa should I use for epiphany?
[20:48] <Noskcaj> ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[20:48] <darkxst> MichaelTunnell, 3.12 is on gnome3, 3.14 hasnt been packaged yet
[20:48] <MichaelTunnell> yea I just wanted something newer than 3.6 :)
[20:48] <MichaelTunnell> thank you
[20:50] <darkxst> MichaelTunnell, how do you have 3.6?
[20:50] <MichaelTunnell> Ubuntu 14.04
[20:50] <MichaelTunnell> Unity
[20:50] <MichaelTunnell> Ubuntu GNOME won't load in VirtualBox so reverted to Ubuntu to test
[20:51] <darkxst> in 14.04 is 3.10
[20:51] <darkxst> ubuntu GNOME should run if you enable 3D accel in vBox
[20:54] <MichaelTunnell> apps.ubuntu.com displays the wrong version then...not shocking that it isnt cohesive
[20:57] <darkxst> you should use Ubuntu software centre
[20:58] <Noskcaj> Since i have to go to school soon, i think i'll leave vino for long into the future
[20:58] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok its probably a little involved to fix correctly anyway
[20:58] <darkxst> you should learn git though ;)
[21:00] <Noskcaj> I will have to soon, as pkg-everything is moving to git