[12:44] <mariojug> hello
 @joeberetta *waves*
 Boost.Python error in job "automirror". ... <class 'NameError'> ... name 'socket' is not defined ... Traceback: ... File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/automirror/main.py", line 157, in run ...  prefix = getmirror(country) ...  File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/automirror/main.py", line 115, in getmirr
 (Photo, 800x319) https://i.imgur.com/37XTDDe.jpg
[16:36] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the iso?
 Got this error in the end of installing
 Yes
[16:38] <wxl> and you checked the disc for defects at boot?
 Yes. I googled. And found answer for error like this. Man wrote that problems with locale (country)
 And now do not have any idea
[16:40] <wxl> because i have never seen that specific issue ever
 Me 2))
[16:41] <wxl> it suggests something expected is missing
[16:41] <wxl> and that makes me think it must be a download or copy error
[16:41] <wxl> how did you check the installation media?
 You mean checking for errors liveUsb?
[16:44] <wxl> perhaps. tell me what you did
 So downloaded iso.file and created liveUsb using Rufus
[16:47] <wxl> that's not what you need to do
[16:47] <wxl> so just to be sure: how did you check the hashes?
 Via HashTab
[16:48] <wxl> what is that?
[16:49] <wxl> oh some windows garbage, ok
[16:49] <wxl> so what was the hash value you got for the iso? and which one?
 Yeah😅
 c53e553cfc4db0f83f2ed48a55f3f1ac
[16:53] <wxl> ok so that's the legitimate value for the amd64 iso, assuming that's what you downloaded
 18.04? 18.10?
 because reasons :P
 oh wait wxl is on it NEVERMIND
 18.10
[16:53] <wxl> 18.10 because it's a calamares error
[16:54] <wxl> go back to sleep XD
 wxl: gdiaf.  you owe me coffee anyways.
[16:54] <wxl> don't you know hellspawn can't die in fire?
[16:54] <wxl> but yeah that might be a good way to roast some beans for you
[16:56] <wxl> ANYWAYS
[16:56] <wxl> joe go boot the iso and select the option "check disc for defects"
 Ok
 Check finished: no errors found ... Result of checking. As you told
[17:04] <wxl> ok.. that's weird.
[17:04] <wxl> can you try the install again? if it fails again, there's a log file in the calamares folder in ~/.cache
 The problem is that I have just done it a second time.
[17:07] <wxl> but if it failed you won't have the log file, so..........
 Just a moment
[17:17] <wxl> @joeberetta where are you located at?
[17:18] <wxl> @joeberetta or maybe more appropriately where is your IP located at?
 Aisa. Tomsk, Russia
[17:19] <wxl> yeah that's probably the problem
[17:20] <wxl> if you go to https://ipapi.co/json can you connect to it?
 { "ip": "<IP_ADDRESS>", "city": "Novosibirsk", "region": "Novosibirsk Oblast", "region_code": "NVS", "country": "RU", "country_name": "Russia", "continent_code": "EU", "in_eu": false, "postal": "630000", "latitude": 55.0411, "longitude": 82.9344, "timezone": "Asia/Novosibirsk", "utc_offset": "+0700", "country_calling_code": "+7",
[17:22] <wxl> "yes" would have sufficied XD
[17:23] <wxl> you're using a mobile connection?
 At this moment yes
 Sharing wifi from mobile
[17:23] <wxl> was that what you were doing before?
 No
[17:23] <wxl> ok, what were you doing then?
 Before used wifi
[17:25] <wxl> and using your IP from that connection, can you connect to that same URL? a yes or no is all i need (you don't want to tell the world your longitude and latitude!)
[17:25] <wxl> and that's also located in russia?
 Yes
 Russia
[17:26] <wxl> yes to both questions?
 Both
[17:26] <wxl> ok
[17:27] <wxl> in any case you had some sort of network issue trying to reach that url which we use to determine your location so we can select a nearby mirror
[17:27] <wxl> to speed up downloads
[17:27] <wxl> there's a bug in our error handling, which is why it blew up the way it did
 Hmm
[17:28] <wxl> luckily since this is python and not compiled code, you can actually tweak it in such a way to make it work regardless
[17:28] <wxl> in yuor case, it will have no effect as we don't actually have a russian mirror
 By the way. After rebooting system now trying to find bugs
[17:29] <wxl> i'm surprised it installed the system at all
 And everything is ok except "sudo apt -f install" command
 @wxl [<wxl> i'm surprised it installed the system at all], Me too))
[17:30] <wxl> why are you trying to -f ?
 Yesterday I tried to install google chrome and got errors and after found the solution where in one of the steps i needed do that
 But now. I'm trying to install here chtomium. So waiting for now. Will tell if will get any error
[17:33] <wxl> in the event your installation is actually problematic, the way to fix the bug is to edit the automirror code before installing. the file is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/automirror/main.py. in the run() function, just remove the if/else statement and replace it with `prefix = ""` and everything will just work
[17:34] <wxl> yeah well google chrome errors------- are probably things you should bring up with google XD
[17:34] <wxl> that said, i've never had issues installing chrome
 Now me 2. I think it was my mistake
[17:35] <wxl> but they could certainly have requirements which don't keep lockstep with the available packages in ubuntu
 @wxl [<wxl> in the event your installation is actually problematic, the way to fix the …], Do you suggest to reinstall lubuntu?
[17:35] <wxl> if and only if there's a problem
[17:36] <wxl> generally, no
 Ok. At this time no problems. If will get them let you know
 Thank you for help
[17:38] <wxl> no problem
[17:39] <wxl> if you have issues with chromium or other packages, we'd need to see the actual errors
 Got it)


 @ancha41 [So, Nemo can't handle this ya?], Right
 Welcome @leandroramos, I recognize you from Twitter :)
 @tsimonq2 [Welcome @leandroramos, I recognize you from Twitter :)], thank you 🤘🏼
[01:38] <tsimonq2> Huzzaaah!
 hy there can anyone say how to upgrade from lubuntu bionic to cosmi cuttlefish
[11:08] <hateball> lubot: cosmic is not yet released, you will be able to "do-release-upgrade" once it is
[11:09] <hateball> Pradeep ^
[11:09] <hateball> Or do you want to upgrade to the beta version of cosmic ?
 yeah i want to upgrade to thee beta version of cosmic
 Is Lubuntu have a LTS version? I didn't heard yet
[11:19] <hateball> Pradeep, in that case "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" should offer to upgrade to Cosmic
[11:20] <hateball> ancha41, 18.04.1 is LTS
 @hateball [<hateball> ancha41, 18.04.1 is LTS], Is that different from 18.04?
[11:21] <hateball> Pradeep if it says no new version found you may need to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from lts to normal
[11:21] <hateball> ancha41, if you are on a fully updated 18.04, then you are on 18.04.1
 Oh, got it
 @hateball [<hateball> Pradeep if it says no new version found you may need to edit /etc/upd …], K thanks bro I'll look into it
 Really thanks bro it just worked
[11:50] <hateball> :)
 Good night, members (on here it's night)
 How can i setting my default application for screenshot? Sometimes when i screenshot, the screenshot always save in folder without my knowledge.  ... I want my screenshot handled with application, not just "Save immediantely in folder"
 Right now, i have a screenshot application. But i don't know to set it as default application for screenshot
[12:53] <diogenes_> lubot, try shutter and assign it to some keyboard shortcut
[12:55] <saptech> gnome-screenshot has the -i switch for interactive mode
[12:55] <saptech> hey diogenes_
[12:55] <diogenes_> saptech, hey hey :)
[12:56] <saptech> I've been using lubuntu lately, this is not bad
 @diogenes_ [<diogenes_> lubot, try shutter and assign it to some keyboard shortcut], Seems good, i'll try it
 One question again, how do i change folder path to save screenshot?
 In firefox scrolling through pages is not smooth! ... It is kinda tearing
 On latest lubuntu cuttle fish!
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/N34fZMpe/file_4224.mp4
 Google has intentionally slowed down YouTube on any browser but Chrome.
 It's another one of their bad marketing tactics.
 @ancha41 [One question again, how do i change folder path to save screenshot?], For Shutter? I believe they have some configuration options you can change, or at least something like a "Save As" button.
 @tsimonq2 [Google has intentionally slowed down YouTube on any browser but Chrome.], It is the same sort of thing for me on any page!
 @Pradeep_Rwes [It is the same sort of thing for me on any page!], Ahh
 What kind of specifications does your computer have?
 @tsimonq2 [What kind of specifications does your computer have?], i5 7th gen, 8 gig of ram,nvidia 920mx gpu
 with intel hd ofc
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/cj8Fbgkw/file_4225.mp4
 Oh jeez, so you shouldn't really be having problems...
 It's not something I've really closely noticed myself but maybe look in the Firefox settings?
 Yeah turning off smooth scrolling helping ... But it is not completely removing
 Huh, I'm not sure :)
 K thanks
 @Pradeep_Rwes [In firefox scrolling through pages is not smooth! ... It is kinda tearing], I've got the same issue on my desktop with an NVIDIA GTX 970. This solution works for me (tl;dr you need to set vsync system-wide): https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA/Troubleshooting#Avoid_screen_tearing
 @marneu [I've got the same issue on my desktop with an NVIDIA GTX 970. This solution work …], Thanks bro I'll check
[17:00] <ChunkzZ> Where can I download the release candidate for lubuntu 18.10?
[17:00] <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/downloads
[17:00] <ChunkzZ> Awesome:)
 @Pradeep_Rwes [i5 7th gen, 8 gig of ram,nvidia 920mx gpu], Which driver for Nvidia? Nouveau or proprietary?
 now nouveau
 Try proprietary to see if it helps
 I'm on proprietary, as well.
 @marneu [I'm on proprietary, as well.], And do you have same issue?
 Same issue, but the solution I posted above solved it for me. Just wanted to say that I didn't try the solution with nouveau.
 Just curious, ... if i change my LXDE to LXQt, will my GTK+ app still work?
 Yes, even the theming works great.


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[08:35] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept sambamba from new, only built on amd64 and arm64!
[08:36] <LocutusOfBorg> also libembl please?
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[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.3.1-4]
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[12:25] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept libmatroska, easy transition, needs only a single vlc rebuild
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova [source] (focal-proposed) [2:21.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:30] <kanashiro> could someone from the SRU team take a look at LP #1871685? Some users are asking for this fix
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[14:33] <RikMills> libglib2.0-dev is now uninstallable in proposed, due to python3-stdlib-extensions 3.8.4~rc1-1
[14:36] <seb128> right, fun, I just got build failures emails for webkitgtk that I just uploaded due to that one
[14:55] <RikMills> seb128: yes, same fail I see with KDE things. others are not failing but depwaiting
[15:00] <seb128> rikMills, I'm going to remove that python3-stdlib-extensions from proposed, it has a depends on a python3 newer than the one currently uploaded
[15:00] <seb128> doko also doesn't seem around so I don't know if he didn't notice or if he has a python3-defaults upload coming
[15:00] <seb128> but meanwhile it's the easier way to unscrew things
[15:01] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[15:01] <seb128> k, done now
[15:02] <RikMills> seb128: thanks also
[15:02] <seb128> np!
[15:14] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, please accept libmatroska? I'm trying to get vlc in :)
[15:15] <LocutusOfBorg> also sambamba please?
[15:17] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, k
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[15:27] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[15:32] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: Can you point me at the email mentioned in comment #16 of bug 1881018?
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[18:06] <ahasenack> hello ubuntu-archive, I'm tracing down the history of libnginx-mod-stream-geoip. This is a NEW package built from src:nginx-1.18.0, and I don't know how it ended up in main, as it depends on a geoip1 library that is in universe
[18:06] <ahasenack> since it's a new binary, someone must have accepted it
[18:07] <ahasenack> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/amd64/libnginx-mod-stream-geoip/1.18.0-3ubuntu1 it depends on libgeoip1 (>= 1.6.12)  which is in universe since focal
[18:11] <LocutusOfBorg> ahasenack, new binaries in main are automatically accepted in main, somebody should probably just move it to universe...
[18:11] <ahasenack> ok
[18:12] <ahasenack> we also need a change in nginx, I'm reviewing it, just wanted to understand now stream-geoip ended up in main when it has a dependency on universe
[18:12] <ahasenack> probably nginx-core being in main had a stronger "pull"
[18:12] <ahasenack> nginx-core (main) depends on stream-geoip (the new package, now in main), which depends on libgeoip1 (in universe, oops)
[18:13] <ahasenack> we'll fix nginx-core to not pull in stream-geoip
[18:13] <ahasenack> or have it pull in libnginx-mod-stream-geoip2, that one is fine in main
[18:13] <ahasenack> (and is in main already)
[18:13] <ahasenack> ok
[19:11] <seb128> ahasenack, I think it's just that the queue interface defaulted to put the binary in main since the source is in main
[19:11] <seb128> ahasenack, I demoted it now
[19:13] <ahasenack> seb128: thanks
[19:13] <seb128> np!
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[19:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: bchoppr (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.6.2-0ubuntu1]
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sosreport (focal-proposed/main) [3.9.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 3.9.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sosreport (bionic-proposed/main) [3.9.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 3.9.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[19:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: bsequencer (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.4.2-0ubuntu1]
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: dragonfly-reverb (groovy-proposed/primary) [3.2.0-0ubuntu1]
[20:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: bshapr (groovy-proposed/primary) [0.9-0ubuntu1]
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblemon [riscv64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.3.1+dfsg-3] (no packageset)
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: bslizr (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.2.6-0ubuntu1]
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> RAOF: bdmurray: I have an upload of rapid-photo-downloader sitting in focal updates for SRU bug 1873944. Any chance it can get some love?
[20:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: new-session-manager (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[20:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: mcpdisp (groovy-proposed/primary) [0.1.2-0ubuntu1]
[21:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (bionic-proposed/main) [237-3ubuntu10.41 => 237-3ubuntu10.42] (core)
[21:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (xenial-proposed/main) [229-4ubuntu21.28 => 229-4ubuntu21.29] (core)
[21:39] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, please NBS-proposed cleanup bbswitch-dkms, bbswitch-source on arm64 riscv64 s390x? because of debian bug: #842964
[21:56] <xnox> Laney:  "Change your pattern to be irrefutable" does that mean anything to you? Does one need to start a Phd to understand what that means?
[21:56] <xnox> mwhudson:  vorlon: i've tried but Modan-fail imho is the nail on the yi-editor coffin, and it should be removed.
[21:57] <vorlon> xnox: is there a package called yi-editor? I didn't find anything in the revdeps
[21:57] <mwhudson> the source package is called "yi" i think
[21:58] <xnox> vorlon:  oh you removed all the things already!
[21:58]  * xnox refreshes browser
[21:58] <xnox> horay
[21:58] <xnox> vorlon:  yeah there is no way to fix that stuff, even if one tries hard.
[21:58] <vorlon> right
[21:58] <vorlon> all gone
[21:58] <vorlon> stop trying
[21:59] <vorlon> xnox: "Change your pattern to be irrefutable" - betting pool on what language that was autotranslated from by Google
[22:00] <xnox> vorlon:  i think that is native english speaker writing it.
[22:00] <vorlon> hmm
[22:01] <xnox> vorlon:  https://github.com/quchen/articles/blob/master/monad_fail.md to fix yi-core, one had to do step "ii. Change your pattern to be irrefutable"
[22:01] <xnox> and i have no idea what that means in haskell
[22:02] <xnox> David Luposchainsky
[22:02] <xnox> quchen
[22:02] <xnox> Likes Haskell. Interested in derived languages (Agda, Idris, Purescript). Would like to learn more about Rust.
[22:02] <xnox> i think is the author, with Germany as declared location.
[22:03] <vorlon> ohhh haskell
[22:03] <vorlon> so not english anyway
[22:03] <xnox> vorlon:  mwhudson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/agda/2.6.1-0ubuntu1 looks like haskell code generation with llvm 9, instead of 7. Makes arm port not build things?
[22:03] <xnox> but I see that ghc is gainging natice code generation for arm upstream
[22:03] <xnox> so maybe purge the arm binaries of agda?
[22:04] <vorlon> that would be nice, since haskell is the last thing holding llvm7 in the archive
[22:04] <xnox> or do we want to try to rebuild ghc with llvm-10 => and basically rebuild all of haskell again, cause i'm sure the rest of arm binaries would then change abi.
[22:04] <xnox> vorlon:  well, the ghc in proposed uses llvm-9 and that makes agda ftbfs on arm in proposed. Unless i am wrong.
[22:05] <vorlon> well if you want to switch to 10, test that in a ppa first?
[22:05] <xnox> right
[22:05] <xnox> vorlon:  i think for the time being it is best to drop agda arm64/armhf binaries
[22:05] <mwhudson> if the rdep chain isn't too bad then for sure drop the binaries
[22:07] <xnox> it is leaf
[22:07] <xnox> src:agda & src:agda-stdlib
[22:07] <xnox> (agda is an "app")
[22:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ipxe [source] (focal-proposed) [1.0.0+git-20190109.133f4c4-0ubuntu3.1]
[22:08] <vorlon> removing
[22:13] <xnox> similar to yi, the monadfail removal causes haskell-gitlib to FTBFS https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-gitlib/+bug/1886725
[22:14] <xnox> also leaf, RM it
[22:14] <xnox> retrying haskell-criterion builds, as launchpad doesn't detect that virtual build-dep wait packages are now satisfyable
[22:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openldap [source] (focal-proposed) [2.4.49+dfsg-2ubuntu1.3]
[22:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openldap [source] (eoan-proposed) [2.4.48+dfsg-1ubuntu1.2]
[22:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openldap [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.4.45+dfsg-1ubuntu1.6]
[22:20] <xnox> https://github.com/snapframework/snap-core => is a Snap framework written in haskell
[22:21] <xnox> troll alert => nothing to do with snapd!
[22:21] <vorlon> is it legos
[22:21] <vorlon> or K'nex
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openldap [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.4.42+dfsg-2ubuntu3.9]
[22:27] <xnox> mwhudson:  vorlon: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FXmkT8TnDc/
[22:27] <xnox> /dev/nbd7p3: PARTLABEL="Gap1" PARTUUID="37785202-dc8e-426a-9f3e-217c7d5b6f3f" => I do not know how/why xorriso command we issue makes that
[22:27] <xnox> it was not there before
[22:27] <vorlon> hmm
[22:28] <mwhudson> xnox: which is the dodgy bit, the PARTLABEL?
[22:28] <xnox> mwhudson:  the dodge bit that it exists.
[22:28] <vorlon> the partition as a whole is new
[22:28] <mwhudson> ah
[22:28] <xnox> mwhudson:  i.e. focal images only have nbd7 nbd7p1 nbd7p2
[22:28] <mwhudson> is this a case of "yes yes we know the partitions overlap shutup"
[22:29] <xnox> which is full iso, overlap full iso p1 without esp, p2 ESP, and some weird extra gap
[22:29] <xnox> i think it is handling the overlap of the device & p1 well enough
[22:30]  * mwhudson zsyncs
[22:30] <mwhudson> what does sfdisk say about it?
[22:30] <vorlon> /home/vorlon/devel/iso/lubuntu-groovy-amd64.iso1    64    1395    1332  666K Micr
[22:31] <xnox> -part_like_isohybrid
[22:31] <xnox>               Control  whether -isohybrid-gpt-basdat, -isohybrid-gpt-hfsplus, and -isohybrid-apm-hfsplus apply even
[22:31] <xnox>               if not -isohybrid-mbr is present.  No MBR partition of type 0xee emerges, even if GPT gets  produced.
[22:31] <xnox>               Gaps  between  GPT and APM partitions will not be filled by more partitions.  Appended partitions get
[22:31] <xnox>               mentioned in APM if other APM partitions emerge.
[22:31] <xnox> hmmmm
[22:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted knot [source] (focal-proposed) [2.7.8-1ubuntu0.1]
[22:33] <mwhudson> yeah the gpt partitions don't overlap
[22:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted knot [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.6.5-3ubuntu0.1]
[22:41] <mwhudson> oh wait, the old images didn't have a gpt at all
[22:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-docs [source] (focal-proposed) [20.04.3]
[22:41] <xnox> mwhudson: hm?
[22:42] <xnox> mwhudson: were they fat only?
[22:42] <mwhudson> seems like it
[22:42] <mwhudson> xnox: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ys4M57sXS2/
[22:42] <mwhudson> is there a tool that only looks at mbr partition tables?
[22:43] <mwhudson> wait what
[22:43] <xnox> ISO is weird
[22:43] <mwhudson> i am very confused https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BvcXptMvKk/
[22:43] <xnox> it can have multiple partition tables
[22:44] <xnox> ah so the extra partition is protective mbr
[22:44] <xnox> and in the past we didn't have that
[22:44] <mwhudson> xnox: well, no
[22:44] <xnox> but instead had hfsplus
[22:45] <xnox> mwhudson:  why not? it's written last, but it is at the smallest offset
[22:45] <mwhudson> xnox: those are partition *tables* not partitions
[22:45] <xnox> yeah
[22:46] <mwhudson> the gpts have three entries each
[22:46] <xnox> depending on whether something is a CDROM or a block device, under bios, or efi, PC or MAC
[22:46] <mwhudson> which isn't what we want, is it?
[22:46] <xnox> different one may be used
[22:46] <xnox> it looks sensible as to what we want =)
[22:46] <xnox> mwhudson: run grub-mkrescue -o foo.iso => and inspect that
[22:47] <xnox> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bRz7768Zng/
[22:48] <mwhudson> is there a thing that will dump out gpt fields without interpretation
[22:50] <xnox> mwhudson:  sgdisk -p *.iso ?
[22:50] <mwhudson> close enough i guess
[22:50] <xnox> but also
[22:51] <xnox> sgdisk -O foo.iso => which will print the contents of the protective MBR
[22:51] <mwhudson> why can't it see the gpts in the .zs-old that wipefs (i.e. libblkid) can see though
[22:51] <xnox> becuase there is a way to keep mbr & gpt in-sync, i.e. to create partitions in both
[22:51] <mwhudson> yeah we want "hybrid MBR" not "protective MBR" surely
[22:53] <xnox> --protective-msdos-label    Patch System Area by partition table
[22:54] <xnox> -J -joliet-long -l -b boot/grub/i386-pc/eltorito.img -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table --grub2-boot-info --grub2-mbr cd-boot-images/usr/share/cd-boot-images-amd64/tree/boot/grub/i386-pc/boot_hybrid.img --efi-boot boot/grub/efi.img -efi-boot-part --efi-boot-image -partition_offset 16 cd-boot-images/usr/share/cd-boot-images-amd64/tree
[22:54] <xnox> is how we build the iso now
[22:54] <xnox> (options to xorriso -as mkisofs)
[22:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-user-docs [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.2+git20200704-0ubuntu0.1]
[22:56] <xnox> and we used to have
[22:56] <xnox> -isohybrid-mbr syslinux/usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin
[22:56] <mwhudson> hmmmmm
[22:56] <mwhudson> i wonder if the gpt tables in the old isos are corrupt
[22:56] <xnox> -isohybrid-gpt-basdat -isohybrid-apm-hfsplus
[22:57] <xnox> we had that too
[22:57] <xnox> mwhudson:  before we dive into this stuff, do we care that there is extra partition? is there something we can fix in casper for the new world order?
[22:57] <mwhudson> xnox: where are you finding this documentation
[22:58] <xnox> mwhudson:  texi files and by reading `xorriso -as mkisofs` and by reading debian-cd/ubuntu branch of tools/boot/groovy/boot-amd64 vs tools/boot/focal/boot-amd64
[22:58] <xnox> bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu debian-cd
[22:58] <mwhudson> xnox: i'm not 100% on this but i thought it was deliberate that the two partitions in the MBR partition table overlapped
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-getting-started-docs [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.2-0ubuntu0.1]
[23:01] <xnox> i do see that 20.04 has invalid GPT and valid MBR
[23:01] <mwhudson> xnox: yeah so this is screwed
[23:01] <xnox> and 20.04 does not overlap and has two copies of ESP
[23:01] <mwhudson> i don't know how it works but the current iso is bung
[23:01] <xnox> focal, groovy, or both differently?
[23:02] <mwhudson> when viewed through a gpt lens
[23:02] <xnox> cause focal is invalid but works?
[23:02] <mwhudson> xnox: i've only been looking at groovy
[23:02] <xnox> groovy is valid, but doesn't work?
[23:02] <xnox> ack
[23:02] <mwhudson> mwhudson@anduril:~/isos$ sudo losetup --show -Pf groovy-live-server-amd64.iso
[23:02] <mwhudson> /dev/loop42
[23:02] <mwhudson> mwhudson@anduril:~/isos$ sudo mount /dev/loop42p1 ~/tmp/mnt/1
[23:02] <mwhudson> mwhudson@anduril:~/isos$ md5sum ~/tmp/mnt/1/casper/filesystem.squashfs
[23:02] <mwhudson> md5sum: /home/mwhudson/tmp/mnt/1/casper/filesystem.squashfs: Input/output error
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnome-getting-started-docs [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [3.36.2-0ubuntu0.1] (personal-gunnarhj, ubuntu-desktop)
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnome-user-docs [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [3.36.2+git20200704-0ubuntu0.1] (personal-gunnarhj, ubuntu-desktop)
[23:03] <mwhudson> i wonder if i can override the kernels idea of how long the partition is
[23:04] <xnox> mwhudson:  yet mounting loop42 itself, makes it ok
[23:05] <xnox> mwhudson:  and i do not get input/output errors.
[23:05] <xnox> mwhudson:  i feel like yes, p1 is missaligned, and is supposed to overlap with the main disk, but doesn't
[23:07] <mwhudson> xnox: right
[23:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (focal-proposed) [0.8.3-1ubuntu12.2]
[23:11] <mwhudson> xnox: https://wiki.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Isohybrid seems relevant
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted eog [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.3-0ubuntu1]
[23:13] <xnox> mwhudson:  which matches what we used to do
[23:13] <mwhudson> yes
[23:13] <xnox> but i thought all that is possible to do with jsut grub2 these days
[23:14] <mwhudson> i think that part is fine but somehow we've lost the partition table intricacies
[23:14] <mwhudson> "The additional isohybrid feature for UEFI adds a partition to the MBR partition table pointing to the same file in the ISO 9660 filesystem as does the El Torito catalog entry for EFI. This file contains a FAT filesystem with boot equipment from which the UEFI firmware will be able to start the desired operating system. Furthermore, isohybrid for UEFI creates a GUID Partition Table (GPT) with a partition pointing to that file."
[23:14] <mwhudson> how is that even possible
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtpms [s390x] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.8.0~dev1-1.1] (no packageset)
[23:16] <xnox> because iso9660 is catalogue of pointers
[23:16] <xnox> and one can jump to different catalogues, which point at the same content, depending which side you look it at it.
[23:16] <xnox> i do wonder if we are missing -isohybrid-mbr syslinux/usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin
[23:16] <xnox> sorry
[23:16] <xnox> not that.
[23:16] <xnox> -isohybrid-gpt-basdat
[23:16]  * mwhudson afk for a bit
[23:17] <mwhudson> should i fetch more coffee or whisky?
[23:17] <mwhudson> (a bit == like 10 mins)
[23:19] <xnox>   -isohybrid-mbr FILE         Set SYSLINUX mbr/isohdp[fp]x*.bin for isohybrid
[23:19] <xnox>   --grub2-mbr FILE            Set GRUB2 MBR for boot image address patching
[23:19] <xnox> not sure if those are mutually exclusive or not
[23:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (focal-proposed) [1:20.04.21]
[23:21] <xnox> -partition_offset LBA       Make image mountable by first partition, too
[23:21] <xnox> -part_like_isohybrid        Mark in MBR, GPT, APM without -isohybrid-mbr
[23:22] <xnox> so i feel like we switched from -isohybrid-mbr to --grub2-mbr
[23:22] <xnox> but we need to specify -part_like_isohybrid
[23:22] <xnox> let me try that
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtpms [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.8.0~dev1-1.1] (no packageset)
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtpms [armhf] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.8.0~dev1-1.1] (no packageset)
[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libtpms [arm64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.8.0~dev1-1.1] (no packageset)
[23:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ibus [source] (focal-proposed) [1.5.22-2ubuntu2.1]
[23:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted quassel [source] (focal-proposed) [1:0.13.1-3ubuntu2.1]
[23:30] <mwhudson> yeah i think so
[23:31] <mwhudson> we don't want -isohybrid-mbr because we're not using isolinux any more but we do want the same partition table
[23:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted quassel [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:0.12.4-3ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[23:31] <xnox> i still don't understand what -isohybrid-gpt-basdat       Mark El Torito boot image as Basic Data in GPT
[23:31] <xnox> means or does
[23:32] <mwhudson> xnox: google suggests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_basic_data_partition
[23:33]  * mwhudson reads the page and is not especially enlightened
[23:34] <mwhudson> i don't think it matters terribly for us
[23:34] <mwhudson> unless firmware cares about this
[23:35] <xnox> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-parted/2011-06/msg00026.html
[23:35] <xnox> yeah, not sure. i think it's to make files visible in windows
[23:36] <xnox> and i think we want ESP visible, cause i think i made sure there is 1M space there
[23:36] <xnox> such that i.e. my thinking was one can put cloud-init user-data there or some such for autoinstall
[23:36] <xnox> weird firmware may care about it, yes
[23:38] <mwhudson> hm but can you mount the ESP writeable?
[23:39] <mwhudson> oh you can, huh
[23:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-63.57~18.04.1] (kernel)
[23:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-63.57~18.04.1] (kernel)
[23:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-63.57~18.04.1] (kernel)
[23:53] <xnox> mwhudson:  it used to be generated just enough size to fit the .efi binaries with like rounded amount of padding, meaing it was as tight as possible.
[23:53] <xnox> imho, it should be actually be resizable =)
[23:54] <mwhudson> xnox: not sure we can actually put autoinstall data their
[23:54] <mwhudson> xnox: i guess in theory you can put a small ext4 partition on the iso somehow
[23:57] <mwhudson> anyway lets fix the current problem first


[14:08] <niko> !member
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> ubottu and ubot93 are both in ubuntu, don't they conflict?
[14:48] <tsimpson> should be quieted in most channels now
[14:56] <TheLordOfTime> still responding to "this factoid is missing" stuff
[14:56]  * TheLordOfTime typo'd a factoid in #ubuntu, got two privmsgs.
[14:56] <TheLordOfTime> one from ubot93 and the other from ubottu
[15:13] <tsimpson> let me just give it a while and I'll get around to removing it from #ubuntu
[15:20] <Tm_T> Unit193: wakey
[16:09] <TheLordOfTime> what's ubot5's capabilities, dare I ask?  factoids?  bugbot?  or is it the same as Ubottu?
[16:10] <Tm_T> ubottu's factoid clone IIRC
[16:10] <Tm_T> ubottu: but you are!
[16:11] <Tm_T> she's playing dumb again /:
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[16:12] <tsimpson> TheLordOfTime: ubot5 is an ubottu clone that is (supposed to be) for non-ubuntu, but ubuntu related, channels
[16:13] <TheLordOfTime> such as #ubuntuforums :P
[16:13] <tsimpson> and #launchpad
[16:13] <tsimpson> but we used to have more bots, so ubot5 took up the slack
[16:20] <TheLordOfTime> indeed