[00:00] <Nosophorus> Someone of you could tell how to configure the Internet connection to connect during the computer startup?
[00:00] <Nosophorus> Ubuntu MATE 16.04
[00:01] <Nosophorus> It's a DSL connection, by the way.
[00:03] <sruli> TJ-: i sent u a PM, please read
[00:03] <Rhorse> Nosophorus: do you have a functioning desktop environment?
[00:04] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: Yep, pal.
[00:04] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: Ubuntu MATE 16.04 is running smooth and by the numbers.
[00:05] <Rhorse> But, no internet connection?
[00:06] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: The Internet connection is working flawlessly. The point is that the computer should be connected to the Internet during the startup. But it doesn't.
[00:10] <drduck> I'm experiencing a problem of my cursor being invisible every time i lock my screen or step away and let it fall asleep/lock on its own accord. Anyone ever had this problem, and if so how did you fix it?
[00:15] <Rhorse> Nosophorus: Not following. You mean, you have to manually connect?
[00:15] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: Yes.
[00:16] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: Click on the network manager icon on the panel and manually ask it to connect.
[00:16] <squinty> Nosophorus,  if using unity click on the double arrow icon and make sure that network and wireless are ticked (if applicable)   also Edit connection -> General -> automatically connect
[00:17] <Nosophorus> squinty: Thanks! It solved the problem. :-)
[00:18] <Nosophorus> Rhorse: Thank you too, dude. :-)
[00:18] <Rhorse> :)
[00:20] <squinty> Nosophorus,  good to hear :)
[00:31] <beowulf_> ubuntu asking for cryptswap means i have to restart my pc at every 2nd boot
[00:35] <Majora320> Hello RAINBOW World
[00:36] <DzAirmaX> hi
[00:37] <DzAirmaX> what is going on with pearl on xenial ? I just updated and I lost all my modules ....
[00:37] <Majora320> do you mean perl?
[00:38] <DzAirmaX> sorry typo
[00:39] <Majora320> DzAirmaX: well, where does perl store modules?
[00:40] <DzAirmaX> Majora320: well, if I knew ! o_O
[00:40] <wunder-bot> hola!
[00:42] <Majora320> wunder-bot Hello!
[00:43] <DzAirmaX> Majora320 : just fixed the problem xD
[00:43] <Majora320> DzAirmaX: gg :)
[00:46] <travis_> HP 2000-210US notebook PC with [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] graphics running Ubuntu 16.04. Initial problem was lagging with stock graphics driver, switched to proprietary drivers using "additional drivers" still very laggy after reboot. Next per a suggestion from this IRC yesterday, I used the Intel Graphics Installer For Linux to install the latest Intel driver-stack and the overall performance did change quite dramatically
[00:46] <travis_> for the better (I could now open Firefox, start typing into Google without the screen going dim.. but things are still frustratingly slow) This computer originally had Windows 7 and was quite snappy. Is there anyone experienced in this problem that might be able to help me out?
[00:48] <Majora320> old computers generally lag on ubuntu, because win has better drivers (one of the only things better on win than *nix)
[00:49] <Hetr0Erectus> true for gpu's but i dont think thats right for cpu's and ram
[00:50] <ilpollo> hi, i need enter to spanish chanel please, thanks
[00:50] <\9> !es
[00:51] <Hetr0Erectus> Majora320, http://fossbytes.com/ubuntu-16-04-vs-windows-10-nvidia-amd-graphics-compared/
[00:52] <Hetr0Erectus> http://fossbytes.com/movidius-fathom-brings-ai-stick-supercomputing-usb-drive/ <-- how nice it would be with something like this for say video editing/rendering
[00:52] <Hetr0Erectus> wonder if thats possible
[00:52] <travis_> I have an HP DV6 with Nvidia and it runs 16.04 great.. I don't know if a DV6 is that much better than the 2000, or if it could be that Nvidia makes that big of a difference but It really seems like it could preform better.
[00:54] <Hetr0Erectus> my ati 5870 runs great on ubuntu mate but didnt run well on kubuntu ... hmmmmmmmm
[00:54] <Hetr0Erectus> it was kubuntu 15.10 .. still odd
[01:04] <travis_> I was debating a different distro but I'm really starting to feel like a distro hopper. Last time I went to Arch (after Mint, Zorin, Ubuntu Studio exe.) and then came back to Ubuntu a few months ago. I was really hoping for an Ubuntu inclusive fix... I just got my sidebar on the bottom and my top-bar transparent :-( lol
[01:29] <snfgf> I plugged in a USB device, window popped up so I assume it automounted; but how do I find out where it's mounted? lsblk shows no additional devices. No changes to /proc/mounts?
[01:30] <OerHeks> type 'mount' and see the last lines
[01:30] <OerHeks> if there is no entry the device is not automounted.
[01:31] <OerHeks> sudo fdisk -l can show the partitiontype, if it is exfat you need some fuse utils
[01:35] <snfgf> OerHeks: So it's not automounted then. I don't know it's device name, and it's not appeared as /dev/sdc so maybe it's not a block device? It's my phone. What else might it be named?
[01:37] <OerHeks> phone .. lsusb should show something.
[01:38] <OerHeks> maybe worth sharing what phone?
[01:41] <snfgf> OerHeks: android on motorola. I see it with lsusb. Do usb devices not have mount points?
[01:43] <OerHeks> oh android, sudo apt-get install mtpfs mtp-tools  # and plug it in again
[02:03] <prospero2016> Anyone know if Dreamchess can interface with FICS?
[02:09] <OerHeks> not sure about dreamchess, find no entry, for FICS you could use eboard of scid
[02:09] <prospero2016> I can't handle 2D boards. Looking for a nice 3d interface I guess.
[02:12] <OerHeks> oh, oke, check this list with possible FICS option https://github.com/pychess/pychess/wiki/ChessClients
[02:12] <OerHeks> not sure there is a suitable 3d version
[02:13] <_44trent> hey, i connected my USB headset but for some reason, i can't get any sound
[02:13] <_44trent> lsusb shows it's plugged in,
[02:14] <_44trent> and it recognizes it as a wired USB headset, so why am i not getting any audio from them?
[02:15] <_44trent> totally unrelated, but i just lol'ed a little at the first ubuntu bug "Microsoft still has majority market share"
[02:21] <_44trent> never mind actually, i just fixed it
[02:37] <abdel_> HI
[02:38] <abdel_> HELLO
[02:51] <FredTheNoob> Hi, I wondering if somebody knows how to fix a sound delay that it happens (same msg) on many TV software(tvtime, xawtv, etc) that I tested it...  ERROR: ALSA lib pcm.c:7963:(snd_pcm_recover) overrun occurred
[02:53] <FredTheNoob> I didn't find many resources on internet, a least to understand, what is happening
[02:57] <arunangshu> from where i can get free uk vpn
[03:00] <arunangshu> can any one guide me how i can configure zenmate in ubuntu
[03:08] <raspberrypifan> hi
[03:08] <arunangshu> can any one guide me how i can configure zenmate in ubuntu
[03:08] <arunangshu> hi raspberrypifan
[03:09] <raspberrypifan> hows it going
[03:09] <arunangshu> doing great how about you
[03:12] <vishesh> After my upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04, custom keyboard shortcuts are responding super slowly. Like after a minute or so. Normal keyboard shortcuts work fine.
[04:01] <yogesh> hi anybody here know about HADOOP software??
[04:04] <jelly> after a power loss on 16.04 laptop I lost unity menu, panel and key bindings.  Reenabling unity plugin in ccsm fixed the first two.  How do I reenable my custom keybidings that use Ctrl-Alt-cursors to switch between workspaces?  They're visible in unity-control-center -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> Navigation -> Switch to Workspace Left etc, but just don't work
[04:04] <yogesh> join #chat
[04:04] <yogesh> join channel #chat
[04:05] <yogesh> join #chatchat
[04:05] <yogesh> join #chat
[04:05]  * jelly gives yogesh a /
[04:06] <yogesh> thnx jelly i forgot
[04:06] <askpcguy> anyone familar with troubleshooting scripting Perl commands?
[04:08] <yogesh> anyone working on BIG DATA ?
[04:08] <yogesh> is there anyone?
[04:15] <yogesh> IS there any channel where i can find programmers , developers or etc?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:56] <ash_workz> I'm getting some 404s on apt-get update: Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main {amd64,i386} Packages; should I be like.... removing these ppas?
[04:57] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Un supported PPA ? Show us the whole error and we can check it out .
[04:58] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: that is the whole error for that line, (aside from 404 Not Found), but the nth result error was: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:00] <ash_workz> also, update ignores translations: Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/{main,multiverse,universe,restricted} Translation-en_US
[05:00] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: What we need is the source URL that is failing .  ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' in a pastebin, please .
[05:02] <ash_workz> isn't there a configuration file for pastebinit?
[05:03] <perso1> executioner="https://www.cartoonnetwork.com"
[05:04] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: like ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[05:11] <gogeta> hello
[05:13] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Did I loose you ?
[05:14] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: no, I was just looking for that configuration thing... I remember talking about it, so I thought it'd be in my log; I know sometimes your computer's username is submitted and usually you can't delete the paste (at least with the default pastebinit, that's true
[05:15] <ash_workz> someone specifically gave me that information, I'm upset I lost it
[05:15] <ash_workz> oh well
[05:15] <ash_workz> I'll just gist it
[05:15] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | ash_workz
[05:18] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: right... I like to avoid that
[05:19] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ef92bffcfcc40b008908bed6911b45fa
[05:22] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: " http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/stable/ubuntu/dists/ " there is no distribution for trusty .
[05:22] <dspnwb> help me with my Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174.....
[05:22] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: so.... remove that?
[05:22] <dspnwb> it doesn't work on 16.04 x64
[05:23] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: yeah .. remove it .
[05:23] <dspnwb> Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174  is not working
[05:24] <dspnwb> it says ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/cal-pci-0000:03:00.0.bin failed with error -2
[05:24] <dspnwb> ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load for ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/firmware-5.bin failed with error -2
[05:25] <dspnwb> also tried using this with same error https://github.com/kvalo/ath10k-firmware
[05:25] <dspnwb> huhuhu i can't use wifi so useless
[05:27] <dspnwb> i tried to chmod +x *.bin
[05:28] <dspnwb> it didnt work
[05:28] <dspnwb> wb serenase
[05:29] <ash_workz> there are various redundant list items in the "Software & Updates" app listed under Other Software.... should I remove them?
[05:31] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: The only problem I saw was with http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/ . If you disable PPAs, they will receive no updates .
[05:33] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: "disable"... so move it to kubuntu-ci-stable-trusty.list.save ?
[05:34] <ash_workz> would that effect my kde install?
[05:39] <gstreamer273> does 16.04 use pulse or alsa by default
[05:41] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: The PPA needs to be gone gone . I would ' sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci ' Then make sure the sourcelist is removed ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' to see all your PPAs .
[05:41] <rock___> How do i install matlab in ubuntu
[05:41] <rock___> ?
[05:43] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci'.
[05:43] <ash_workz> Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[05:48] <JackJones> is there a way for me to tell if my system in anyway has been compromised
[05:48] <dspnwb> how can i fetch previous chat when i got dc?
[05:48] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: is there a way to list the ppas?
[05:50] <dspnwb> cat /etc/apt/sources.list|grep -v "#"
[05:50] <dspnwb> you do that
[05:52] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: having difficulties finding how you installed the kubuntu-ci PPA to make sure of the removal syntax .
[05:54] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Got it . try as ' sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable ' .
[06:00] <Kazuto> Alright, I really screwed myself over. I accidentally messed up my /etc/sudoers file (don't ask how, it's a long story). Now, I can't use `sudo` at all. To top it off, I can't remember the root password to login and fix it. Is there any workaround to this? I don't have physical access to the machine
[06:02] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: do you have ILO or equivalent console access so you can change settings in GRUB?
[06:02] <Kazuto> SwedeMike: I don't believe so, only SSH access after the OS is initialised
[06:03] <Kazuto> Unless either of those things are something I can access via SSH
[06:03] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: then it's hard. Old trick was to change grub settings so it'd run /bin/bash instead of init. Don't know if that still works with later versions though
[06:04] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: but if this isn't available to you, I can't think of a way if your system is fully updated and don't have any knows local privilege exploitation vulernabilities.
[06:04] <SwedeMike> known
[06:05] <Kazuto> SwedeMike: Is there a way I can instead set Ubuntu to use another sudoers source file? The error I get is "no valid sudoers sources found," so this leads me to believe that Ubuntu has the potential to use fallback sudoers files, no?
[06:07] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: not that I am aware of. There is a reason you're supposed to use "visudo" to edit the sudoers file, so the risk of messing it up is less.
[06:08] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: I mean, it's designed to be secure. If you screw up the security settings, you can effectively lock yourself out. Same thing with encryption. It's not wise to have an encryption scheme where you can just press "override" like in the movies.
[06:09] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: if you can't use any of these methods: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Reset_root_password  then I can't think of another way.
[06:09] <Kazuto> `visudo` was actually the reason why this happened. I did read that I was supposed to use it, but my finger slipped and executed the command with just `-x /etc/sudoers` as the arguments
[06:10] <Kazuto> AKA it apparently set my sudoers file to an empty file
[06:10] <Kazuto> Yeah, I can't use those methods since they require physical access to the machine
[06:11] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: well, or some kind of remote management console.
[06:11] <Kazuto> SwedeMike: Which would require sudo privileges to install, meaning I'm SOL
[06:12] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: nah, I'm talking of the kind of remote console management you get with ILO or equivalent (which gives you the possibility of doing hard reset of the machine and/or enter bios etc)
[06:12] <SwedeMike> Kazuto: or if it's a VM, the virtualization software usually offers the same thing
[06:12] <Ben64> your finger slipped and you accidentally typed "-x /etc/sudoers" i call manure
[06:13] <cfhowlett> :)
[06:13] <Kazuto> Ben64: When I hit the end quote, yes
[06:13] <SwedeMike> Ben64: there is no need to pour salt into wounds.
[06:13] <Ben64> this doesn't add up
[06:13] <SwedeMike> this meta discussion is useless.
[06:14] <Kazuto> Ben64: Case in point, I messed up the command and I'm locked out of any administration for my server. How it happened didn't really matter
[06:14] <Kazuto> doesn't*
[06:14] <Ben64> so you are making things up. cool, well boot into recovery mode. get physical access, done
[06:14] <Kazuto> Ben64: The server's across the country...
[06:15] <Ben64> call your datacenter and have them do it
[06:15] <Jaro> hello all I got this message in dmesg what does it mean? ecryptfs_decrypt_page: Error attempting to read lower page; rc = [-4]
[06:16] <Abe_> does somebody know where to find these? depandancy problems: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=70559729
[06:16] <Abe_> can't find them in synaptic
[06:17] <Kazuto> Abe_: I think apt-file can help with that. `apt-file list <dependency>`
[06:17] <Kazuto> Or it might be `find` over `list`, not sure
[06:17] <Abe_> ok i'll try that thanks
[06:17] <Ben64> Abe_: why aren't you running it through steam
[06:25] <Abe_> idk thats what it showes me, I did this apt-file list now its downloading something ? it said i need to do apt-file update
[06:38] <JackJones> can keyloggers in ubuntu log what you copy paste or only what you type in?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> why would you need a keylogger?
[06:39] <gustavo_> hello
[06:40] <JackJones> cfhowlett, nah, I'm just thinking about something that happened to me yesterday,
[06:42] <cfhowlett> understood.  a quick google show several keylogger options.  did not see copy/paste support but it was a quick look only.  perhaps this??  http://askubuntu.com/questions/169887/how-can-i-detect-a-keylogger-on-my-system
[06:42] <JackJones> yep I had that page open already cfhowlett :)
[06:42] <cfhowlett> great minds ...
[06:43] <JackJones> one of them recommends installing a rootkit detector but its from 2003!!
[06:43] <cfhowlett> rkhunter is on my system
[06:43] <gg4g4> is ubuntu 16.04 freezinfg for anyone whe watching youtube?
[06:46] <JackJones> what is that cfhowlett ?
[06:46] <YankDownUnder> gg4g4, That would be a bit on the "browser" dependent side, too...
[06:47] <cfhowlett> JackJones, rkhunter = root kit hunter.  apt-cache policy rkhunter for more
[06:49] <viju> Hi, is there any kind of DNS cache in ubuntu since I don't see any updated dns entries?
[06:49] <davos> Will I ever be able to use an r9 390 with Ubuntu?  Issues have plagued my use since I bought this card.  Crashes in Unity when I use the dash and crashes in Gnome after like an hour's use.  Using open source drivers in 16.04 because I can't find any proprietary ones
[06:49] <viju> I have modified the dns but the effects won't show.
[06:49] <JackJones> wow thank you so much cfhowlett :D
[06:49] <JackJones> installing that right now
[06:50] <cfhowlett> JackJones, happy2help!
[06:50] <cfhowlett> davos, the best supported cards in linux are from intel, nvidia and amd  in that order.  MSI?  really?
[06:50] <gg4g4> i ened up going back to 14.4=04
[06:52] <davos> Yeah I was very assumptive when I built this PC.  I just assumed AMD would have good support for an Asus 390 on Linux.  Very dissapointing that I have to open the PC and disconnect the card whenever I want to do actual work.  14.04 is much worse for me.
[06:52] <JackJones> cfhowlett, could be a victim of a MITM attack?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> davos, I admire your spirit for doing the home build!  that said, the sanest option might be to replace the card with something you *know* is supported.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> JackJones, I am not qualified to speak on such things and did not see what prompted your suspicions.  If you are using a public wifi, that possibility is far from unlikely
[06:54] <davos> Yeah I'm thinking of doing that actually.  It cost about AUD600, which I think adds to the dissapointment.  Oh well, I should have done my research
[06:55] <cfhowlett> davos, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[06:55] <cfhowlett> oh, wait.  that link is HELLA old!
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> davos, Just a question pertaining to your choice of window managers/desktop environments - if Unity and Gnome3 "shat" themselves with this card, did you not try any other window managers/desktop environments to see if there was less of an issue? Just asking for my own information...
[06:57] <cfhowlett> davos, perhaps this would be better  https://h-node.org/videocards/catalogue/en
[06:58] <davos> YankDownUnder, I tried the pantheon environment on Elementary obviously and the same issues were present.  I'm going to give KDE, Lubuntu and Xubuntu a go when I can find the time.  And thanks cfhowlett
[06:58] <cfhowlett> also see lxde
[06:59] <YankDownUnder> davos, Mate? (Gnome2 based)
[07:23] <viju> Hi, I don't see any software updates. Whenever a new solftware got updated, the update app used to fire up in 12.04. What about it in 16.04
[07:23] <viju> ?
[07:24] <nitero> does anyone know any way i can log or monitor my general hardware components (cpu, psu, chipsets) to see which one is failsafing and shutting off my computer?
[07:24] <viju> I see in apt-get upgrade some 40mb of packages to be installed. But I had to run it manually to know that. Isn't there some way as before to know?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> viju, apt full-upgrade will calculate and display the preview before executing.
[07:25] <spartan29> have u checked it from 'Software and Updates' ?
[07:26] <spartan29> check the 'updates' tab - make sure automatically check for updates - is set to daily
[07:27] <C0r3> If I install something by building the source code then will it effect the system if I do a 'sudo apt autoremove'???
[07:27] <spartan29> it depends
[07:30] <viju> cfhowlett: is there any way to automate it? Can I not get the notification when the new updates come?
[07:31] <cfhowlett> there are many good reasons to avoid automatic updates -- kernels spring to mind.  but if you must; go to system > updater settings
[07:41] <nitero> does anyone know any way i can log or monitor my general hardware components (cpu, psu, chipsets) to see which one is failsafing and shutting off my computer?
[07:42] <Ben64> nitero: as you were told in ##hardware already, "nitero: swap out known-good parts"
[07:44] <kang0> I (kang0) Which tools do you use as google alternative and may be more powerful than Google?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> there is only ONE google.  alternatives, sure, but nowhere near as intrusive/powerful
[07:45] <auronandace> kang0: duckduckgo is a great alternative search engine (but this channel is for ubuntu support)
[07:45] <nitero> someone also said " check the syslog, or enable persistent journald and check the last few messages of the previous boot with "journalctl -b -1 -n" (/usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian for how to enable persistent journal)"
[07:46] <kang0> auronandace thx
[08:14] <portnov> hi all
[08:15] <portnov> anybody around?
[08:15] <kang0> Why Ddg is better than google?
[08:15] <portnov> i have a problem in recently installed kubuntu 16.04 with network-manager
[08:15] <portnov> it usually does not show available wifi connections after startup
[08:16] <portnov> it looks like it thinks that my wifi interface is wired one
[08:16] <portnov> because it shows two wired connection, one is set up for wired interface and one for wireless
[08:16] <portnov> if i restart network-manager, it detects wifi correctly
[08:16] <portnov> any ideas?
[08:22] <ducasse> portnov: maybe it's not set to connect automatically, select edit connections from the menu, choose your network and go to the general tab.
[08:22] <rx> hello
[08:23] <portnov> ducasse: it is set, checkbox is activated.
[08:23] <rx> I'm hirotada sanjo
[08:24] <rx> from the people's democratic republic of korea
[08:25] <rx> very glad to join there
[08:40] <passport> Hi all, my external harddisk is making clicking sounds and doesn't show up in ubuntu. dmesg here http://pastebin.com/sYwG21WY. Any chance of recovering data from this disk?
[08:41] <J4nus> passport, you can try testrecorder
[08:42] <J4nus> but i think the chance is small
[08:42] <ducasse> passport: try removing the drive from the enclosure and connecting it internally, if possible, but it doesn't look good.
[08:43] <passport> J4nus: I've tried reading it with ddrescue, but it doesn't even show up as /dev/sdX
[08:44] <passport> ducasse: thats worth a shot, if I can get the enclosure open
[08:44] <ducasse> passport: it's your only option other than sending it to a professional recovery business.
[08:45] <J4nus> passport, ok then follow ducasse's advises
[08:45] <ducasse> passport: there might not even be standard sata connectors on the drive, some manufacturers use proprietary connectors.
[08:48] <jatt> passport: recover the data from your backup
[08:49] <passport> jatt: very droll, but its not my disk, and the owner didn't have a backup
[08:54] <passport> J4nus, ducasse thansk for your help, I'll give the bad news to the owner ;)
[08:54] <rio_> anyone hire useing 16.04 ?
[08:55] <ducasse> passport: you're welcome, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
[09:08] <EriC^^> 4eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:10] <funkylab_> so, I have a problem with cppunit-dev
[09:11] <funkylab_> especially, with how the pkgconfig file in there effects the wrong ldflags in 16.04
[09:11] <connyosis_> Just installed Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, and when I close the lid my computer wont suspend but instead shuts down. How can I change so it suspends instead?
[09:11] <funkylab_> connyosis_: settings -> power
[09:12] <connyosis_> funkylab_: which setting? I don't see anything there about changing this behaviour
[09:13] <connyosis_> There is a suspend & power off section, but the only thing there is a setting for automatic suspend
[09:13] <connyosis_> nothing about what to do when lid is closed
[09:13] <funkylab_> connyosis_: sorry, I'm not at my own laptop, and hence, can't test this; it's where I remembered things to be
[09:14] <connyosis_> funkylab_: yeah thats what I remembered from before as well, but now it doesn't seem to be there
[09:14] <funkylab_> connyosis_: crazy idea, look in the lock screen settings
[09:17] <connyosis_> funkylab_: under power in gnome tweak tool there are settings for this, but it's already set to suspend
[09:17] <connyosis_> very strange
[09:17] <funkylab_> connyosis_: might actually need to reload udev or something else
[09:18] <funkylab_> ubuntu in that matter can be a bit MS Window'sy
[09:18] <funkylab_> so: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[09:18] <connyosis_> funkylab_: yeah I'll look into this a little more. thanks for the suggestions
[09:32] <backbox> hi
[10:22] <wade_> hi
[10:22] <wade_> hi
[10:22] <wade_> hey boss
[10:23] <wade_> hey spinza
[10:23] <k1l> hi
[10:24] <wade_> how to use irssi?
[10:25] <k1l> what exactly?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> wade_  i use irssi, what do you want to know ... basically: type text, then hit enter
[10:25] <wade_> how to change nickname?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> wade_  nick blah
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !nick | wade_
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> wade_  /nick blah
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> same as in any other irc client
[10:27] <k1l> wade_: irc commands start with a / . like "/nick newnick"   or "/join #channelname"
[10:28] <wade_> i am back
[10:28] <wade_> how can i change my nickname
[10:28] <wade_> monkey help
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> wade_  type  /nick blah
[10:29] <wade_> ok
[10:29] <mynameis> it worked
[10:29] <mynameis> thanks
 wade_: irc commands start with a / . like "/nick newnick"   or "/join #channelname"
[10:30] <MonkeyDust1> hey
[10:31] <MonkeyDust1>
[10:31] <MonkeyDust1>
[10:31] <MonkeyDust1>
[10:31] <MonkeyDust1>
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> immitation is the highest flattery, but it doenst feel like that
[10:32] <MonkeyDust1> whois
[10:32] <MonkeyDust1> whois MonkeyDust
[10:33] <Flannel> MonkeyDust1: Please stop that.  Thanks.
[10:35] <MonkeyDust1> why /whois is not working
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:41] <YankDownUnder> Gidday
[10:44] <wade1> i am using weechat now
[10:44] <wade1> help
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !help | wade1
[10:45] <wade1> ok
[10:46] <ducasse> wade1: for help in weechat type /help or /help command
[10:46] <EriC^^> ; done
[10:46] <wade1> its not working
[10:46] <EriC^^> :p
[10:47] <striker28>   I want to get started with open source. Can anyone suggest a JAVA projects where they are tolerant to newbies?
[10:47] <wade1>
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> striker28  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <cfhowlett> striker28, best to ask java channels I would think ...
[10:48] <striker28> Any channel other than ##java you know of cfhowlett
[10:48] <beowulf_> striker28, you should go to the GNU  / Gnu Linux channels and ask about open source.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[10:48] <LookIAmSoDumb>
[10:48] <ducasse> LookIAmSoDumb: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html
[10:49] <LookIAmSoDumb> thanks
[10:49] <ducasse> LookIAmSoDumb: there is also a quick start guide on weechat.org
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> LookIAmSoDumb  wade stop changing your nick
[10:49] <daniman> apt-get install someapp gives me error wssays theot using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:50] <daniman> In ununtu-touch
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | daniman
[10:52] <daniman> cfhowlett: No. fuser
[10:53] <daniman> I don't think it has crushed, I am using ubuntu  on pphone
[10:55] <k1l> daniman: when using ubuntu-touch best is to ask in #ubuntu-touch since that got a different setup than the regular desktop install
[11:06] <mintux> how to show line 1000 in history command ?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> mintux  !1000
[11:07] <mintux> MonkeyDust: it's run it i need to show it
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> mintux  type   man history, see if you find what you need
[11:09] <ducasse> mintux: history | grep '^ 1000 '
[11:10] <mintux> ) ducasse: return nothing
[11:11] <ducasse> mintux: then event number 1000 is not stored
[11:18] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I've installed sudo apt-get install android-emulator and I'm wondering if it's possible now to run Android emulator without having to download anything else? P.S. I've asked into #Android and I've very agressive unfriendly none related reponse.
[11:19] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> it would be great if someone can help here
[11:20] <brainwash> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: what do you mean with ving to download"
[11:20] <brainwash> woops
[11:20] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> these are the directory contents after the installation http://pastebin.com/nXKz7xc1
[11:21] <brainwash> "without having to download anything else"
[11:21] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> brainwash: SDK
[11:22] <brainwash> so, it does not work out-of-the-box?
[11:22] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> brainwash: that is what my question is all about.
[11:22] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> whether it works or not and how to it if so
[11:23] <beowulf_> dont be aggressive or we'l have to tase u bro
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | beowulf_
[11:23] <brainwash> in 16.04 android-emulator is only a transitional dummy package
[11:23] <ducasse> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: first hit on ddg: http://xmodulo.com/how-to-run-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html
[11:23] <beowulf_> cfhowlett, but jokes are fun
[11:24] <brainwash> ducasse: March 3, 2013 tho
[11:24] <k1l> !ubuntu-make | LJHSLDJHSDLJH
[11:24] <cfhowlett> beowulf_, you are free to amuse yourself in your own channel.   this is ubuntu support.  respect the guidelines as they apply to everyone
[11:25] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> ducasse: I've been through that page too ... it asks to ~/android-sdks/tools/android which I don't want to download sdk
[11:25] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> I though I can download and run android emulator without extra unwanted stuf
[11:25] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> f
[11:25] <Codfection> how to install vlc using terminal
[11:25] <Codfection> software center is stuck on vlc installation
[11:26] <benoit_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:26] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install vlc Codfection
[11:26] <Codfection> 16.04 ubuntu
[11:26] <usman_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:26] <Codfection> thats all?
[11:26] <Codfection> thanks alot :)
[11:26] <benoit_> yes
[11:26] <Codfection> why is software center stuck
[11:26] <Codfection> when installing something
[11:26] <ducasse> Codfection: apt should tell you.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> cod you'll probly have to unstick the software center before you can use apt
[11:27] <usman_> Does anyone have any experience with startup services?
[11:27] <k1l> LJHSLDJHSDLJH: so your target is to run android apps?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Codfection,^
[11:28] <Codfection> unstick from dock?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> no from usage, Codfection
[11:28] <Codfection> so its half stuck
[11:28] <Codfection> how to close it
[11:30] <juser> how do I get xchat to not  use this server?
[11:30] <YankDownUnder> Codfection, sudo killall -9 software-centre
[11:30] <cfhowlett> juser, do not user xchat.  it is abandonware for years now.  use hexchat
[11:30] <usman_> I have a raspberry pi 2 installed with Ubuntu Mate 15.10 and I have disabled GUI and autologin is enabled. All I am trying to do is run a node server on startup and I ahve pretty much succeeded in doing so. But it run in the background as a service. I need it to run on the terminal so I can utilize process.stdin and process.stdout
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> usman_  rpi has it's own channel, also try   #ubuntu-arm
[11:31] <usman_> Oh okay
[11:31] <usman_> Thanks mate
[11:31] <juser> cfhowlett,  ok will install.  I have only been using ubuntu for 3 day so I'm totally ignorant.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> juser, no worries and welcome to ubuntu.
[11:32] <juser> I got fed up windows update problems and installed ubuntu.   I will never buy another microsoft product.
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> !manual | juser
[11:33] <faheemazizm> Earlier today I inserted my SD card and unmounted the /dev/sdb1 , after writing the files to the SD card I cannot see the USB in the Explorer, what can i do?
[11:33] <faheemazizm> I feel like i made a mistake somewhere with the unmounting, I was writing Rasbian OS to it using the website instructions
[11:34] <juser> ubottu, ok thanks
[11:34] <faheemazizm> linuxmodder, u around ;)
[11:34] <sephiroth_> hi everyone
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> sephiroth_  some nickname
[11:35] <sephiroth_> This chat room is a big suprise
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> sephiroth_  type /topic
[11:35] <cfhowlett> sephiroth_, please ask your support questions
[11:35] <faheemazizm> Earlier today I inserted my SD card and unmounted the /dev/sdb1 , after writing the files to the SD card I cannot see the USB in the Explorer, what can i do?
[11:35] <faheemazizm> I feel like i made a mistake somewhere with the unmounting, I was writing Rasbian OS to it using the website instructions
[11:35] <YankDownUnder> sephiroth_, Life is a big surprise.
[11:35] <Ben64> faheemazizm: don't repeat your question so quickly
[11:36] <faheemazizm> Ben64, meh ;)
[11:36] <faheemazizm> Ben64, kk
[11:36] <juser> I'm back with hexchat.
[11:36] <cfhowlett> juser, welcome.
[11:37] <sephiroth_> sorry,I just use this app for some joys...I don't konw here is a space for answer questions from customers..
[11:37] <cfhowlett> do not forget to purge xchat: sudo apt-get purge xchat
[11:37] <kisb> sephiroth_, for chat head to #ubuntu-offtopic #chat etc
[11:37] <juser> xchat ignored mypreferences and kept connection here.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> juser, right click on the channel tab and untick "autojoin"
[11:39] <faheemazizm> anyone know how i can check if my internal laptop SD reader is still working? perhaps it's the SD reader issue?
[11:39] <faheemazizm> Macbook Air 2013 (if it matters)
[11:39] <juser> cfhowlett, I think I did that.   anyway I'm done with xchat, I installed hexchat.
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> faheemazizm  what's the ouptut of   cat /etc/issue
[11:40] <ben-q> hello
[11:40] <faheemazizm> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l
[11:40] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, I'll safely assume the internal reader is NOT malfunctioning - have you put the SD card into anything else? Because if there are issues, it's most likely with "writes" to the card...does that make sense?
[11:41] <faheemazizm> YankDownUnder, essentially ur telling me to test the card on another SD reader?
[11:41] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, Precisely.
[11:41] <faheemazizm> YankDownUnder, sick stuff, this is why i come to the ubuntu channel. ;')
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, Awesome.
[11:42] <faheemazizm> Earlier today I inserted my SD card and unmounted the /dev/sdb1 , after writing the files to the SD card I cannot see the USB in the Explorer, what can i do?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> explorer is a MS term , in linux it's called the file manager
[11:43] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, If you can see the SD card using a different reader, or a different machine, there may be issues with the "file system" that was written to the card. If anything, you can use "gparted" to view the partition on the SD card - and possibly fix the issues - if they exist...
[11:44] <faheemazizm> YankDownUnder, it is a write issue, i assume e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[11:44] <faheemazizm> BluesKaj, does it matter? words dont have meaning, meaning is in the mind
[11:45] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, Well, there you have it. You can either fix them from the terminal, or you can use gparted to fix them. Easy done.
[11:45] <BluesKaj> faheemazizm, no it's in the text/words we use , this is not a mind reader chat
[11:45] <faheemazizm> YankDownUnder, not visable in gparted
[11:45] <ducasse> faheemazizm: take the card out and plug it in again
[11:45] <ben-q> i have a issue with my ineternet connection when i am using vpn on my desktop. it will disconnect every now and then with the following error "ovpn-IPredator-CLI-Password[1269]: RESOLVE: Cannot resolve host address: pw.openvpn.ipredator.me: Temporary failure in name resolution", i have tried what i know of such as enabling disabling "openvpn, ferm, networking (after changing the /etc/resolv.conf), network-manager" but only a reboot seam
[11:46] <faheemazizm> ducasse, done this multimple times
[11:46] <ben-q> hour until it will disconnect again.
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> faheemazizm, Then your option is from the terminal...and if the SD card is not being "mounted" or "seen" - you may want to reboot the machine and try again - because you're obviously going to have to "see" the SD in order to repair the filesystem...hmm...
[11:46] <ducasse> faheemazizm: try if the card is visible with lsblk
[11:47] <faheemazizm> ducasse, it is
[11:47] <faheemazizm> ducasse, just not visable in the "file manager"
[11:47] <ducasse> faheemazizm: then try fsck, for example
[11:48] <faheemazizm> ducasse, fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
[11:48] <faheemazizm> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[11:48] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> k1l: yes to run apps
[11:48] <LJHSLDJHSDLJH> k1l: do you have any idea on how to run it
[11:48] <BluesKaj> ben-q, lookin network manager edit connection and make sure you don't have a timeout setting
[11:49] <BluesKaj> ben-q, on the vpn server
[11:49] <ben-q> BluesKaj: i might add that i use openvpn-client interface
[11:49] <vooze> Help: I cant boot with nvidia anymore. Just just fine 1 hour ago. I had to take out my nvidia card for unreleated reasons and it booted fine with intel. Now when I try booting with nvidia it will only boot with nomodeset or nouveau driver. Whenever I try with nvidia driver i get: "fb: switching to nouveaufb from EFI VGA"
[11:49] <vooze> Any ideas?
[11:50] <vooze> works just fine in Windows, so the card is okay.
[11:50] <faheemazizm> ducasse, lets assume i see the sd, i dont care for the data and i reformat it, will i be able to remove this superblock issue?
[11:50] <ducasse> faheemazizm: the card might be bad, but try to reformat.
[11:50] <faheemazizm> ducasse, what command would i use
[11:50] <BluesKaj> ben-q, then check in the client too
[11:51] <ben-q> the ''sudo apt-get install openvpn''
[11:51] <ducasse> faheemazizm: depends on which file system you want
[11:51] <faheemazizm> fat32
[11:51] <faheemazizm> ducasse, fat32
[11:52] <ducasse> faheemazizm: mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/whatever
[11:52] <faheemazizm> formated, doesnt work
[11:52] <faheemazizm> ducasse, doesnt work
[11:52] <faheemazizm> ducasse, windows still sees it tho
[11:52] <faheemazizm> ducasse, other pc sd reader sees it
[11:52] <faheemazizm> ducasse, will just use another pc meh
[11:52] <faheemazizm> ducasse, thanks for ur help
[11:53] <ducasse> faheemazizm: np
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ben-q, ??
[11:54] <ben-q> yes
[11:54] <ben-q> please tell me what to do
[11:55] <BluesKaj> ben-q, I just did abobe
[11:56] <BluesKaj> above
[11:57] <ben-q> what would a timeout setting look like?
[11:58] <Guest77553> hi friends i am the Mechanical design engineer  where can i get job if any one have idea?hi friends i am the Mechanical design engineer  where can i get job if any one have idea?hi friends i am the Mechanical design engineer  where can i get job if any one have idea?hi friends i am the Mechanical design engineer  where can i get job if any one have idea?
[11:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[11:58] <mace_> hey guys, I was trying to edit my shells configuration file so that chruby would load up automatically, but I messed up. Now how do I remove lines from the shells configuration file?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Guest77553, you are seriously in the wrong channel. suggest you consult your college career center
[11:59] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> haha
[12:00] <YankDownUnder> Guest77553, Have you tried ##religion ?
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !behelpuful | YankDownUnder, please
[12:02] <fennesz> Hello! Does anyone know any alternative for Guitar rig on Ubuntu 14
[12:03] <cfhowlett> fennesz, #opensourcemusicians would know
[12:03] <fennesz> ah nice
[12:03] <fennesz> will try that
[12:15] <ben-q> sorry Kaj, i guess i faded out alittle there
[12:43] <tim241> hi
[12:43] <z4c> anyone has a good explanation to why my fish alises resets everytime i start the terminal?
[12:52] <moradpro> hello
[12:55] <moradpro> are there any italian ??'
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !it | moradpro
[12:59] <n3p3nthess> What is the best way to change the DNS server?
[12:59] <n3p3nthess> I used to do that in /etc/resov.conf
[12:59] <n3p3nthess> But I heard that that isn't the way to do it anymore
[13:00] <auronandace> !resolvconf | n3p3nthess
[13:00] <tim241> can someone tell me how to run visual basic 2008 on Ubuntu?
[13:01] <kisb> do you visual studio?
[13:01] <kisb> *you mean
[13:01] <FManTropyx> there is Visual Studio for Ubuntu?
[13:02] <lerner> iftop: bottom right part lists "rates". there are three columns. I dont understand them
[13:02] <tim241> no visual basic 2008
[13:02] <n3p3nthess> auronandace: thanks
[13:02] <portnov> FManTropyx: in fact, there is... "visual studio code"
[13:02] <tim241> I need vicual basic 2008
[13:02] <tim241> visual basic 2008**
[13:02] <portnov> many strange things happening these times
[13:03] <FManTropyx> uh, is it used to x-dev for Windows?
[13:03] <kdmdn> VB is a part of a visual studio
[13:03] <portnov> FManTropyx:  have no idea actually :)
[13:03] <kdmdn> what's your issue?
[13:03] <tim241> Where can I download visual studio then? on Ubuntu
[13:03] <kisb> visual studio code
[13:04] <cfhowlett> visual studio is a microsoft product
[13:04] <kisb> there is no visual studio for Ubuntu
[13:04] <cfhowlett> visual studio code:   https://code.visualstudio.com/
[13:04] <cfhowlett> VSC is supported  by ubuntu per th elink
[13:05] <tim241> I hate that version of visual studio
[13:05] <tim241> is there any full version of visual studio or visual basic for ubuntu?
[13:05] <kisb> i hate visual studio
[13:09] <BluesKaj> tim241, you'll have to find a linux equivalent to visial studio, There's no such package in ubuntu.
[13:09] <kdmdn> tim241: you have to use wine, or, better a windows virtual machine
[13:15] <invaderzim2> Hello
[13:16] <invaderzim2> I'm getting (xsane:4317): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text() when trying to use my simple old scanner. Seems to be an issue with a special character in the printer's serial number
[13:18] <kdmdn> invaderzim2: so... it should not affect anything
[13:19] <invaderzim2> kdmdn: what you mean?
[13:19] <someone235> Hi, until recently my wifi worked fine, But suddenly it ceased to connect to the wifi network. I can see the network on the wifi list, but the connection fails. When I do the same in windows (I have dual boot), everything works fine. Does anyone has an idea how to solve the problem?
[13:19] <kdmdn> it's just a warning from gui
[13:21] <curlyears> mornin`, all
[13:22] <curlyears> says, where have you guys found the best prices on SDHC cards?
[13:22] <minas114> Is it possible to set up unity launcher so that the open applications appear move at the top?
[13:22] <invaderzim2> kdmdn: no the scanner doesn't work... xsane gives "invalid argument" and quits
[13:22] <curlyears> I tried tigerdirect, the had an 8GB card for 47.99, but they wanted almost $4 in shipping.  Forget that!!!
[13:23] <curlyears> s/49.99/799/
[13:23] <curlyears> 7.99
[13:24] <curlyears> doggone sticky keyboard
[13:25] <curlyears> I need some to put Noobs oin so I can boot and play with my new Pi3
[13:26] <curlyears> s/$4/$14/
[13:26] <curlyears> ;/part #ubuntu
[13:26] <maxwell_> l
[13:26] <juser> curlyears, check out walmart
[13:27] <maxwell_> sad
[13:27] <maxwell_> dasdasdasdas
[13:27] <maxwell_> adsasad
[13:27] <maxwell_> dsaad
[13:38] <simtexx> Whats a good vpn to use with ubuntu 16.04. I have PIA atm but am having problems with install and connection
[13:39] <ducasse> simtexx: i use pia with ubuntu, works just fine.
[13:40] <simtexx> ducasse, are you using the linux beta or the windows.exe file? i have tried both atm wine will not load file and linux beta will not let me connect thru the network manager
[13:41] <ducasse> simtexx: I just use the config files from their site with openvpn
[13:42] <simtexx> ducasse: ok thanks ill look into it more, deffs something im doing wrong
[13:43] <ducasse> simtexx: just try 'openvpn --config nameofconfigfile.ovpn'
[13:46] <someone235> Can someone pls help me with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/769346/wireless-suddenly-ceased-to-work
[13:48] <snfgf_> With a /home and / partition, is it possible to umount /home and remain logged in?
[13:48] <gennaro> hi, i need help, im having problems with installing unbutu 16.04 lts
[13:48] <OerHeks> someone235, resetting the wifi router often helps fixing unclear issues.
[13:48] <EriC^^> snfgf_: what are you trying to do?
[13:48] <EriC^^> gennaro: what's the problem?
[13:49] <snfgf_> EricC^^: Shrink my /home partition
[13:49] <perilous> hay
[13:49] <gennaro> eric i try to boot from usb and install but it stalls at the purple screen with ubuntu name and dots
[13:49] <EriC^^> snfgf_: i wouldn't try to unmount it while logged in
[13:49] <perilous> hYAY
[13:49] <EriC^^> snfgf_: boot a live usb and shrink it
[13:50] <OerHeks> EriC^^ +1
[13:50] <someone235> OerHeks, Unfortunately, I don't have direct access to the router. Btw, I've tested the same connection with another Ubuntu laptop, and it works ok there.
[13:50] <juser> gennaro, why not install from disc?
[13:50] <EriC^^> snfgf_: or you could enable the root account and login from a tty as root and do stuff from the cli
[13:50] <gennaro> i have no optical drive in my laptop
[13:50] <ducasse> snfgf_: and back up first.
[13:51] <EriC^^> gennaro: try pressing esc and see what it says
[13:51] <snfgf_> thanks
[13:51] <gennaro> i tried different bootable usb creator and all have this problem, maybe its the image i dont know, ill try to press esc
[13:51] <gennaro> ill be back
[13:51] <juser> gennaro, usb optical drives are cheap.
[13:52] <gennaro> i did not have any problems like this before and it work for other distros for example xubuntu
[13:52] <arccos_> enter live
[13:53] <Ali1> guys do you think i7 is better or i5 ? for laptop running vms and ubuntu 16.04
[13:53] <Ali1> ram is 16 gb
[13:54] <juser> i had hard time resizing partitions with acronis true image.
[13:55] <Evropi> Might have bricked my system
[13:55] <EriC^^> Ali1: i7 is definitely better i'd think, depending on cores and cpu speed
[13:56] <arccos_> Ali1:i7 is better ,because 7 > 5
[13:56] <Evropi> So I wanted to ditch kubuntu for ubuntu. I installed ubuntu-desktop but it got stuck on the google account package and couldn't overwrite it as kaccounts was using it
[13:56] <Evropi> Apt get -f cannot fix it
[13:56] <Evropi> At the same time I'm not allowed to remoce the kde paxkage that locks it
[13:57] <Evropi> I also rebooted and now everything is broken and I've been dropped into a shell... what should I do?
[13:59] <beowulf_> evropi, backup important files and install ubuntu from official iso.
[13:59] <Evropi> There has to be some way
[13:59] <juser> I didn't know VMS was still around.
[13:59] <beowulf_> evropi, switching manually is not recommended.
[13:59] <Evropi> I just need to sort out that pkg
[13:59] <beowulf_> evropi, it is possible but probably not worth it.
[14:01] <Evropi> I'm in an endless loop of apt asking to meet dependencies, a kde package not allowing it and being unable to remove kde because apt wants me to -f install first but I can't
[14:02] <snfgf> For bootable USB, is 'dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/sdb' good, assuming /dev/sdb is my USB drive?
[14:02] <ducasse> Evropi: aptitude is sometimes smarter at resolving dependencies, have you tried that?
[14:02] <EriC^^> snfgf: add bs=4M at the end
[14:03] <snfgf> EriC^^: Thanks. Why is that?
[14:03] <z4c> is it possible to change the size of the tabs in the terminal? they are frikking big, bugs me
[14:03] <EriC^^> snfgf: it'll be like 10x faster
[14:03] <Evropi> Can't install aptitude, as mentioned it asks me to apt-get -f install which does not work
[14:04] <Evropi> (Sorry for not highlighting, it's tough to do on mobile
[14:04] <ducasse> Evropi: you can probably grab the .deb manually and install it with dpkg -i, though.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | Evropi
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Evropi, you don't neeed aptitiude, just use apt
[14:05] <Evropi> Ah so apt is aptitude? That's what I generally use
[14:05] <goans> hello
[14:05] <ducasse> BluesKaj: aptitude uses different logic for resolving dependencies, and that could help him.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Evropi, yes
[14:06] <goans> i am  a new ubuntu
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ducasse, it's old and not well deveoped especially for mobile
[14:07] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i know it's old, but it's gotten me out of similar situations before.
[14:08] <goans> i want to Research applications design Website, who are help me ?
[14:08] <beowulf_> goans, google will help you. And Software center.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> ducasse, well, use it if you must, but I doubt it will help you anymore than apt can now
[14:10] <Evropi> Same error (was trying to upload photo byt it's a pain on Android)
[14:10] <OerHeks> goans, i would go for eclipse
[14:10] <OerHeks> !ide
[14:12] <kisb> latest versions of eclipse suck on ubuntu
[14:12] <brunch875> vim is the only choice!
[14:13] <snfgf> got kernel_panic after dd'ing gparted.iso onto usb drive. What's a small distro I can use if I only want to resize my partition?
[14:18] <skroon> is it possible to host a ubunutu personal repo on s3, so I can share it with multiple of my computers?
[14:22] <davek_> hi
[14:22] <OerHeks> skroon, sure you can run your personal repo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[14:22] <Evropi> BluesKaj: ducasse: after a lot of googling, tailoring the dpkg command in the first answer here worked: http://askubuntu.com/questions/580232/sudo-apt-get-f-install-fails -- thank you for all your help!
[14:22] <OerHeks> (local)
[14:23] <davos> Xubuntu test on r9 390 failed
[14:25] <gennaro> hi, can someone help me with my problem, i try to install ubuntu lts 16.04 but this is what happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky64vSE03KM
[14:25] <Evropi> sigh
[14:25] <Evropi> great, now startx doesn't display anything
[14:25] <Evropi> deeper down the rabbit hole we go
[14:25] <BluesKaj> Evropi, oh libc6, very important
[14:25] <OerHeks> startx ugh, is depreciated, you should use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:25] <Evropi> it wasn't libc, it was kaccounts-provider and the unity scope for google
[14:26] <Evropi> unbelievable to think those two useless things would brick a system
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> Evropi  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[14:26] <BluesKaj> oops wrong url :-)
[14:27]  * BluesKaj searches for his glasses , again
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  use mine a sec
[14:28] <gennaro> hi, can someone help me i have problem with installing ubuntu 16.04
[14:29] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, I'm also distracted by the rain here....I need an excuse :-)
[14:29] <Evropi> lightdm start worked, I'll try to work out how to make it work by default
[14:29] <Evropi> unless you have a tip
[14:29] <Evropi> so I don't have to type it into the console on every boot
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Evropi, MonkeyDust 's advice is spot on
[14:35] <davos> gennaro can you describe the exact problem and your hardware
[14:39] <gennaro> hi could someone help me with my problem?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> gennaro  yes, what is the problem
[14:40] <gennaro> monkey dust i'm trying to install ubuntu lts 16.04 but this is what happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky64vSE03KM
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> gennaro  what's in the video? i cannot open it
[14:41] <gennaro> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky64vSE03KM try now
[14:42] <gennaro> it is what happens when i try install ubuntu
[14:42] <OerHeks> gennaro, not all users can watch youtube, please descibe what happens?
[14:42] <snfgf> I'm having trouble writing ISOs to a USB drive. Neither would boot. I used dd. Is there anything I need to do with the ISO prior to writing to the device?
[14:42] <ducasse> snfgf: they need to be hybrid iso's.
[14:42] <lyze> OerHeks ... gennaro's pc gets stuck at the ubuntu logo showing those couple dots under it
[14:42] <gennaro> it is the purple screen with dots then black screen and again purple screen with dots and so on and so on
[14:42] <OerHeks> snfgf, use the usb creator tool, works fine.
[14:42] <gennaro> installation does not launch
[14:43] <kdmdn> gennaro: press Esc
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> gennaro  hit F12 when you see the dots... does it show someting useful
[14:46] <snfgf> ducasse: How do I know if my iso's are hybrid?
[14:47] <snfgf> OerHeks: What tool is that?
[14:47] <OerHeks> ubuntu isos and gparted iso is hybrid.
[14:47] <OerHeks> it is the usb creator tool in your ubuntu
[14:49] <Ramya> I like Ubuntu 16.04 very much.
[14:50] <Ramya> How to master linux ?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> Ramya  learn it like you learned windows or mac: by using it
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Ramya
[14:51] <Ramya> MonkeyDust: I am learning too much, my brain is consuming a hell lot of information.
[14:51] <Ramya> MonkeyDust: I am suffering from Information Overload.
[14:51] <R0binh00d> lol@ramya
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> Ramya  great, then you're smart enough for linux
[14:52] <OerHeks> Ramya, so you ask for more? great thinking
[14:52] <abolfazl123> hi.can i find the dns of a site(like www.google.com) with terminal(or any thing alse)?
[14:53] <R0binh00d> abolfazl123, use the nslookup command
[14:53] <rajiv1>  whenever i wanted to download a torrent file from deluge in firefox, then as soon as i change the default bittorrent client from transmission to deluge firefox have been crashed.
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> abolfazl123    whois google.com
[14:54] <Ramya> OerHeks: Yea. But too much to read.
[14:54] <Ramya> MonkeyDust: I have 3 big books to complete this month.
[14:54] <OerHeks> Ramya, we didn't read that all in one day too.
[14:54] <OerHeks> 3 books, luxury problem :-D
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> Ramya  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[14:54] <abolfazl123> R0binh00d: thanks man it's work good.
[14:54] <Ramya> OerHeks: It is so addicting. I keep reading books whole day.
[14:55] <Ramya> OerHeks: eBooks are my friends.
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Ramya  great, but not for this channel
[14:55] <R0binh00d> lol MonkeyDust
[14:55] <Ramya> MonkeyDust: Do you read so much ?
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Ramya  take your books to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <gennaro> hi i checked my bootable usb and it said error in 2 files, should i use different usb or what to do?
[14:58] <Dumle29> So I just connected a bluetooh speaker to my laptop, and it's been working great. Then someone else were connected to it for a while instead, and that worked great. Now I'm connected to it again, but it doesn't show up under sound in ubuntu
[14:58] <Dumle29> wat do?
[15:00] <OerHeks> gennaro, check the iso with md5sum, then try to write it again to usb, if that fails again, try an other usb
[15:02] <Guest51699> Now try Ubuntu Mate...
[15:02] <Guest51699> I like it
[15:02] <gennaro> now i read on internet maybe secure boot is problem because i have installed windows 10
[15:03] <OerHeks> gennaro, secure boot should not be a problem, fastboot can.
[15:03] <EriC^^> gennaro: try to disable secure boot
[15:03] <Dumle29> secureboot shouldbe fine
[15:03] <Dumle29> I'm running secureboot on my hp envy
[15:03] <EriC^^> should being the keyword
[15:03] <Dumle29> what ubuntu is it?
[15:04] <Dumle29> standard ubuntu with unity? Personally I installed ubuntu gnome 16.04 (a week or so ago) and it worked flawlessly.
[15:04] <sunjiang> hello
[15:06] <gennaro> fastboot is disabled, i'll try to disable secure boot and later check the iso file and try different usb, ill post later if it worked
[15:06] <sunjiang> anyone there?
[15:06] <rajiv1> festerB: Is that working for you?
[15:06] <OerHeks> sunjiang, anyone just parted with everyone
[15:09] <jatt> is it possible to disable cursor blinking for all gnome-terminal profiles?
[15:12] <gennaro> i think the iso i downloaded may be faulty, the md5 sum is e049a8784e786c94eead327022334354
[15:12] <OerHeks> jatt, sure, see http://askubuntu.com/a/311905
[15:24] <abolfazl1231> hi.when i type www.google.com how my browser find it's ip address.is there a global server for all ip addresses?(i know here is for ubuntu but i don't find my answer any where sorry again)
[15:25] <jatt> OerHeks: thanks, will try it out
[15:25] <OerHeks> abolfazl1231, your dns server finds it
[15:25]  * akhil lol
[15:25] <OerHeks>  your ISP dns server finds it*
[15:25] <abolfazl1231> OerHeks: my dns server? what is that?
[15:26] <abolfazl1231> OerHeks: how it find?
[15:26] <lyze> a dns server is a server which maps domain anems ... like "google.com" to ip addresses
[15:26] <OerHeks> abolfazl1231, see your network settings, some have 2 dns servers in case one is busy
[15:26] <abolfazl1231> lyze:ok but where is that?is it a global database
[15:27] <OerHeks> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
[15:27] <lyze> urgh ... your ISP. so the company you bought the internet from. has a dns server. this one fetches its entries from bigger dns servers and so on ...
[15:28] <OerHeks> there are alternatives, like opendns.
[15:28] <R0binh00d> abolfazl1231, my suggestion is that you read a little about WWW, Internet, DNS, IP Address
[15:28] <R0binh00d> that will help you understand what you need to know
[15:28] <R0binh00d> Your questions are way too naive for IRC if I may say, try google first
[15:29] <Guest76754> hi
[15:29] <Guest76754> how i can change this:
[15:29] <Guest76754> ubuntu-512mb-nyc2-01
[15:29] <Guest76754> my vps name
[15:29] <OerHeks> Guest76754, ask your VPS vendor?
[15:30] <tgm4883> abolfazl1231: https://www.verisign.com/en_US/domain-names/online/how-dns-works/index.xhtml
[15:35] <abolfazl1231> tgm4883:hey man it's was veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy good.thanks a lot.it was my answer
[15:36] <tgm4883> abolfazl1231: yw
[15:38] <R0binh00d> I pity people who don't know how to Google and end up wasting other people's time on IRC!
[15:39] <tim241> I DID IT
[15:39] <tim241> I am running visual basic 2008 on UBUNTU!!
[15:39] <Guest76754> OerHeks for znc DNS
[15:40] <lwappleby> can this chat room be made for adudio
[15:41] <atracht> I can't seem to get a command to start at bootup, added it to rc.local and it runs fine if I run rc.local manually after boot
[15:41] <atracht> it's starting docker-compose which might be because the docker daemon isn't running
[15:41] <tim241> just create a shell script and add it to the init.d folder
[15:42] <JustinHitla> I use KDE and I tryed to suspend system choosing "sleep" in menu all it did was the screen turned "OFF" and then "ON" again and then it showed the "lock" screen where I need to type password to unlock it, so why it didn't went to "sleep" mode it just locked the screen ?
[15:47] <Hume2> Hello, I use Ubuntu 16.04 and I have very slow wireless connection. It doesn't happen in 14.04.
[15:49] <Evropi> I think I'm going to do a clean install
[15:49] <Evropi> how do I remove encyption from the home folder?
[15:49] <Artpicre> [LaTeX] Anyone having "! Argument of \zap@to@space has an extra }." error in {align} environments, after upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[15:49] <atracht> tim241 added the script, running sudo /etc/init.d/docker-compose start works but won't go on boot
[15:54] <Hume2> l
[15:54] <Hume2> Hello, I use Ubuntu 16.04 and I have very slow wireless connection. It doesn't happen in 14.04.
[15:54] <sannin> i have and Realtek ALC892 audio chip and the speaker and headphone sounds an same time
[16:00] <john_rambo> getting these errors while updating http://paste2.org/tCe0IZpw
[16:01] <donofrio> anyone else notice tab complete not working in 16.04 and 16.10?
[16:01] <OerHeks> john_rambo, your mirror might be out-of-sync, wait for a few minutes or change it to main
[16:01] <john_rambo> OerHeks: Okay
[16:02] <OerHeks> donofrio, seen that before, completion does not work as root, or when the folder is not in your %path%
[16:02] <donofrio> OerHeks, ah ic
[16:03] <john_rambo> OerHeks: One more thing when I am cut / pasting its copying instead
[16:03] <ash_workz> Im unable to remove a kubuntu ppa with add-apt-repository -r
[16:03] <ash_workz> the last time I spoke with someone, they said that my apt-get update failures were due to kubuntu-ci, but when I tried to remove it, it said it doesn't exist
[16:04] <ash_workz> here's the result of apt-get update: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f4f2d2c5e46f85b6acfa24466f2fd6f3
[16:05] <OerHeks> john_rambo, not sure how to see that, when you select and press ctrl p to paste too?
[16:06] <john_rambo> OerHeks: Yes
[16:06] <OerHeks> ash_workz, no trusty candidates https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[16:07] <ash_workz> OerHeks: so shouldn't I be able to remove the ppa then?
[16:07] <OerHeks> ash_workz, no need for ppa-purge, just remove it from sources and you will be fine.
[16:08] <OerHeks> * as it never installed packages i think
[16:08] <sannin> hello, i have and Realtek ALC892 audio chip and the speaker and headphone sounds an same time
[16:08] <ash_workz> OerHeks: but doesn't that mean I should be able to remove it via add-apt-repository -r?
[16:08] <sannin> anyone can help
[16:09] <OerHeks> ash_workz, i never used add-apt-repository -r remove that way, allways used ppa-purge...
[16:10] <OerHeks> john_rambo, no idea what is wrong, maybe a tiny dirtspot on touchpad?
[16:10] <ash_workz> OerHeks: so in this case (where ppa-purge is apparently unnecessary) should I just move /etc/apt/sources.list.d/... -> ...save ?
[16:11] <OerHeks> ash_workz, yes, you can do it manually, or use the sources gui
[16:12] <OerHeks> then apt-get update etc
[16:12] <ash_workz> OerHeks: the "sources gui" is the "Software and Updates" application?
[16:12] <OerHeks> ash_workz, correct :-)
[16:13] <slee> hi, i see the samba bug from latest update has been fixed( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572876 ), but i don't see the update when i do a software update
[16:14] <ash_workz> okay, I had another question about that; there are a lot of redundant list items there; (the repeats are unchecked), should I just remove those?
[16:14] <ash_workz> how did they show up to begin with?
[16:14] <ash_workz> is that a bug?
[16:18] <ndawir> Hi
[16:18] <ash_workz> (for example Canonical Partners is listed twice [four times if you include source code] but the first listing is not checked)
[16:19] <OerHeks> ash_workz, i have only 2 @ 64 bit.
[16:19] <OerHeks> can you make a printscreen?
[16:21] <ash_workz> is there an imgur where you can delete the image?
[16:22] <helpmeronda> He lp
[16:22] <helpmeronda> Help
[16:23] <ash_workz> well, w/e
[16:23] <ash_workz> OerHeks: http://imgur.com/G0IriBT
[16:27] <OerHeks> ash_workz, strange, maybe they stayed during upgrade, and disabled ofcourse.
[16:28] <helpmeplz> Help
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> helpmeplz  start with a question
[16:29] <helpmeplz> Hello. Jow can i change resolition before install
[16:29] <helpmeplz> How*
[16:30] <helpmeplz> The screen is stretched out side of tv aand only see right half of screeb
[16:30] <hhee> guys. how i can maximize window in xubuntu? alt + f10 not working
[16:34] <ash_workz> OerHeks: so I guess I'll just remove them
[16:34] <kdmdn> hhee: button with a square?
[16:35] <lerner> iftop: bottom right part lists "rates". there are three columns. I dont understand themI have scanned a whole book, for ocr (option in the copy machine) The text is as pdf saved, but letters are not recognized as text. what do I have to do and with what application?
[16:35] <lerner> sorry
[16:35] <lerner> I have scanned a whole book, for ocr (option in the copy machine) The text is as pdf saved, but letters are not recognized as text. what do I have to do and with what application?
[16:36] <hhee> kdmdn, hm. which ones?
[16:36] <kdmdn> hhee: one which has a square?
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> lerner  are the letters hand written?
[16:37] <hhee> kdmdn, well i thought you mean win key, also try [ ] but not work
[16:37] <kdmdn> lerner: try tesseract, but it is for english only
[16:37] <lerner> MonkeyDust, no, they are standard letters, like these ones Im writting
[16:37] <lerner> text is german...
[16:37] <hhee> btw alt + f9 minimize - working
[16:37] <arrrghhh> hey all, does anyone have experience with lirc or ir-keytable?
[16:37] <kdmdn> you can try anyway
[16:40] <lerner> kdmdn, TESERACT = ocrfeeder?
[16:41] <kdmdn> lerner: yes, it is a frontend
[16:42] <gabi_> Hi guys! It`s my first time here. Does anyone know how to fix the error "error parsing pcc subspaces from pcct /dev/sda"? I didn`t find documentation on the web.
[16:45] <ash_workz> OerHeks: what's the link to the canonical source code? There were two dupes for the Canonical (you can see in that screenshot); removing the second one removed the checked Canonical source code as well
[16:45] <OerHeks> gabi_12, Solved by disabling fast startup on Windows 10 (dual installation). https://askubuntu.com/questions/702917/boot-into-emergency-mode-because-of-nouveau-error-parsing-pcc-subspaces-from-pc
[16:46] <OerHeks> ash_workz, now i really wonder ho those double entries get there, and linked too.
[16:46] <OerHeks> * how
[16:47] <gabi_12> OerHeks: Thank you. I`ve tried that, it don`t work. It all started when i`ve installed a third party driver fon Nvidia. I tried to select intel as prime, no fix.
[16:47] <bigdata> exit
[16:48] <ash_workz> OerHeks: yes, the first two unchecked ones (the regular and source) were linked (so they disappeared together). Slightly unexpected to me, but I didn't worry about it; but when I removed that 3rd Canonical Partners (source code), it also removed the only remaining (checked) Canonical Partners (source code)
[16:48] <OerHeks> ash_workz,  add it manually like this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/459542/missing-canonical-partners-and-independent-repositories-in-ubuntu-14-04
[16:48] <ash_workz> OerHeks: so I do have the regular Canonical Partners left behind
[16:49] <OerHeks> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
[16:50] <ash_workz>  OerHeks you sure?
[16:50] <ash_workz> OerHeks: maybe I should diff those files first
[16:51] <OerHeks> ash_workz,  yes, partner should be in the regular sourceslist
[16:53] <someone235> can someone pls help me with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/769346/wireless-suddenly-ceased-to-work
[16:55] <izTech> hi - i am trying to clone my hd to several laptops. i created my ubuntu on a laptop/ssd then removed ssd and connected via USB to new laptop
[16:56] <izTech> i then used clonezilla and cloned the SSD to new laptop internal HD
[16:56] <izTech> but it wil not boot ubuntu. I tried running boot-repair from live usb thumb drive
[16:56] <izTech> this is the error log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16305666/
[16:57] <compdoc> I use clonezilla a lot. should just work. use the Beginner's mode, unless the drives are smaller
[16:57] <safe_> When I boot ubuntu I see text, then when the login creates lightdm it just shows completely black. How to troubleshoot?
[16:57] <izTech> i did use begginers mode
[16:57] <black_13> what is the difference between the vmware tools install and the open-vmware tools?
[16:58] <izTech> when i boot into a live usb - the data and all 3 partitions show of the cloned drive
[16:58] <compdoc> well, I use clonezilla to create an image to a fileserver, or from drive to drive. Ive never done it from usb drive, so maybe theres some difference
[16:58] <compdoc> clone to a fileserver then back to a drive might work better
[16:59] <izTech> i have a feeling it has something to do with grub
[17:00] <OerHeks> black_13, vmware tools are closed source, and open-vmware opensource.
[17:00] <OerHeks> the open version is in our repos
[17:01] <black_13> When i had installed the vmware tools i was able to auto-size my ubuntu guest
[17:01] <black_13> or auto-size the display
[17:02] <izTech> thanks compdoc i will try to do it via server. my other systems are os x. can it save the image to osx drive
[17:02] <compdoc> I dont know apple apple filesystems.
[17:02] <compdoc> *about apple
[17:03] <izTech> compod can you take a look at this - maybe there is something obvious that I am missing here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16305666/
[17:05] <compdoc>  izTech, cant say from there. but you could boot ubuntu and log into the os, then run update-grub
[17:06] <compdoc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[17:06] <compdoc> called chroot
[17:08] <compdoc> might work better if there is only one drive in the system. the boot/os drive. until you get it sorted
[17:08] <izTech> k, thanks i will try that also i just stumbled across this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/493051/just-installed-ubuntu-14-04-but-after-restart-it-wont-boot/493060#493060
[17:08] <Witzo> test
[17:09] <compdoc> thats whats great about ubuntu. lots of support
[17:09] <izTech> yes, i disconnected usb and i have only thumb drive and internal drive.
[17:10] <izTech> yes, agree on support comdoc i am used to using Carbon Copy Cloner - just works.
[17:15] <brunch875> How do you people IM now that empathy isn't the default one?
[17:15] <brunch875> I use thunderbird even for IRC
[17:16] <Mirv> has anyone info on losing cryptsetup support in initrd after the latest -22 kernel on 16.04? I've checked through the initrds 21 vs 22 and all of crypto/*, cryptsetup is gone. the cryptsetup packages and initramfs configs from them are still there.
[17:16] <Mirv> if you have noticed some discussion on the topic somewhere or know anything, I'd welcome pointers. otherwise I'll continue digging when I have time.
[17:17] <helpmeplz> How to install ubuntu with set resolution
[17:18] <helpmeplz> Screen is stretched out and cant see install prompt
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> helpmeplz  i have that with the lightdm login screen ... move the mouse left or right, without clicking
[17:21] <helpmeplz> It moves
[17:21] <helpmeplz> Nothing else
[17:22] <helpmeplz> Im booting from usb
[17:22] <lerner> does ocrfeeder work qith 16.04? it does nothing
[17:22] <lerner> I clicnk on the icons but there is nothing to tell me it is doing anything
[17:22] <backbox> hell0
[17:23] <helpmeplz> I only have the top rigjt toolbar
[17:23] <backbox> How to activate anon mode using blackbox
[17:23] <helpmeplz> For WiFi and stuff
[17:23] <OerHeks> !backbox
[17:23] <backbox> Hey
[17:23] <backbox> HEy
[17:23] <backbox> hey
[17:23] <backbox> hey
[17:23] <backbox> hey
[17:23] <OerHeks> :-)
[17:24] <helpmeplz> Likebcan i set a mode to boot low resol utio
[17:24] <helpmeplz> Resolution
[17:26] <helpmeplz> Help smart people
[17:26] <mjoelner> is 32GB USB enough to create a n UBUNTU installer?
[17:26] <helpmeplz> Ya
[17:26] <EriC^^> mjoelner: yeah more than enough
[17:26] <helpmeplz> 4g is sufficient
[17:26] <helpmeplz> Eric
[17:27] <helpmeplz> Can u help me plz
[17:27] <EriC^^> with what?
[17:28] <helpmeplz> How to install Ubuntu with set resolution. Screen is stretched out you can't see the install prompt window
[17:28] <EriC^^> try adding vga=<something> in the grub kernel line
[17:28] <EriC^^> did you try nomodeset?
[17:28] <helpmeplz> Thank you eric
[17:28] <helpmeplz> No
[17:28] <EriC^^> try nomodeset first
[17:28] <helpmeplz> Perfect thx
[17:29] <EriC^^> http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[17:29] <EriC^^> those are the vga=<something>
[17:29] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:30] <helpmeplz> Just needed a direction
[17:30] <abhinav--_> join #bsdin
[17:30] <Spinach> i want to reset my freenode password, who can help me?
[17:31] <EriC^^> Spinach: #freenode
[17:31] <EriC^^> and /nickserv
[17:31] <Spinach> i don't know the user
[17:31] <EriC^^> ?
[17:31] <Spinach> i only know the email
[17:32] <EriC^^> you don't know your own nickname?
[17:32] <arrrghhh> Spinach, your best bet is to contact freenode
[17:32] <Spinach> changed it since it asked for password
[17:32] <Spinach> found it by email now though
[17:56] <pattonh84> join
[17:57] <pattonh84> ubuntu / cmd
[18:09] <gour> hi
[18:10] <OerHeks> :-)
[18:10] <Guest39006> hello
[18:11] <Guest39006> in my system when i boot the computer it shows dev/sda8 : clean 18072    and some number then file blocks what does it mean
[18:11] <ioria> fsck
[18:12] <OerHeks> yes, fsck has run and shows the result
[18:13] <Guest39006> is it any problem?
[18:13] <Guest39006> or may i change this notification and stop fsck?
[18:15] <Arautos> hi there everyone
[18:15] <OerHeks> Guest39006, no problem i guess, fsck is called to work on the next boot to do its job, might be because you hard-reset the system..
[18:15] <Guest39006> i installed it fresshly
[18:15] <ioria> Guest39006, you got that message each startup ?
[18:15] <Guest39006> when i installed 16.04 i am facing this this is first time i am geting this notification
[18:16] <Guest39006> yes
[18:16] <Guest39006> in each start up then i reinstaaled the system again the same
[18:16] <OerHeks> Guest39006, then there might be an issue with your hardware.
[18:16] <OerHeks> faulty disk, replace it.
[18:17] <ioria> Guest39006,  your video card ? intel ?
[18:17] <Arautos> you've never had installed 16.0 version?
[18:17] <Guest39006> disk is ok
[18:18] <Arautos> have you tried to make the partitions again?
[18:18] <will_wie1der> could someone help me how to configure sound on a dell laptop ubuntu
[18:18] <Guest39006> i use in dual boot  mode
[18:18] <Guest39006> in windows 10 i face no rpoblem
[18:19] <Guest39006> yes
[18:19] <Guest39006> i did
[18:19] <Arautos> i'm on a dual boot mode too, with a windows 10. At first it just didn't work, but i tried it all from zero and bam. works fine now
[18:19] <ioria> Guest39006,  that it's specific of linux... you cannot have it on win :þ
[18:19] <Arautos> With the GRUB as boot manager
[18:19] <auronandace> Guest39006: there is nothing wrong, 16.04 just does that check every boot
[18:19] <juser> I'm dual boot with windows 7
[18:20] <Guest39006> then it is not any problem ?
[18:20] <auronandace> Guest39006: not a problem at all
[18:20] <juser> win7 works well
[18:20] <Guest39006> thank you
[18:20] <juser> no problems
[18:20] <Arautos> oh, thats fine then.
[18:20] <Guest39006> but 16.04 takes long time than 15.10 to boot
[18:20] <juser> I had a hard time resizing partitions.
[18:21] <Arautos> i'm on a ubuntu mate just because of booting time
[18:21] <juser> I tried to resize with Acronis True Image and cound not get it to work.
[18:21] <Arautos> its easier to resize at the shell
[18:22] <juser> I did the resize with windows disk manager.
[18:23] <Guest39006> how to improve booting time any sugestion?
[18:23] <juser> how long does boot take?
[18:24] <Guest39006> atleast 3 times than 15.10 ubuntu
[18:24] <OerHeks> Guest39006, on 16.04, in  terminal:  systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg    # and post the svg on imgur.com, lets see what is taking time
[18:24] <OerHeks> works for 15.10 too
[18:24] <juser> I've been using Ubuntu less than a week so I am pretty much clueless.
[18:26] <Guest39006> which file name
[18:26] <xervans> what do you mean? you can name it anything i think
[18:27] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. Am dual booting 16.04 and win7. Need to reinstall win, but after I do, will I be able to use these instructions to restore grub? http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[18:27] <OerHeks> filename.svg  should be in your /home/ folder now
[18:27] <OerHeks> HypothesisFrog, yes
[18:28] <OerHeks> also see our wiki
[18:28] <OerHeks> !grub
[18:28] <Guest39006> how to know the time of booting from termianl
[18:28] <OerHeks> Guest39006, systemd-analyze # this will show boottime
[18:29] <OerHeks> so all under 30 secs is nice.
[18:29] <xervans> Hi friends, I am having a problem with the network manager service randomly disconnecting me from wifi. I've turned power save off, to no avail. Restarting the service solves the problem. I'm trying to make a workaround, so an i can run service network-manager restart upon login. Can someone guide me to a resource to make an automated script like this?
[18:29] <portnov> hm
[18:29] <Guest39006> 22.01 second boot time
[18:30] <portnov> xervans: please check your "network connections" editor in state when you have wifi "not available"; doesn't it show your wifi interface as wired one?
[18:30] <Guest39006> 4.17 kernel and 17.295 userspace
[18:31] <portnov> xervans: in my case it shown two "wired connections", one of which was configured for wifi interface and another for wired
[18:31] <OerHeks> Guest39006, oke, be happy with it
[18:31] <xervans> portnov: I'll try to reproduce the problem. How should I check the network connections editor?
[18:31] <Guest39006> t7y
[18:32] <Guest39006> ty
[18:32] <portnov> xervans: i don't know your DE, in KDE it's click on network icon in system tray -> edit connections; in gnome/unity it should be similar i guess
[18:34] <xervans> Yes thanks. It does show me having tried to connect to ethernet about the time I was having the issue - maybe changing the default? I'm not sure how though
[18:34] <portnov> i'm not sure too
[18:35] <portnov> xervans: in my case it was reproducing randomly after system startup
[18:35] <Guest39006> bye
[18:36] <xervans> in my case as well it happens on system startup as well, or whenever I log in
[18:36] <portnov> xervans:  i did two things simultaneously: reinstalled network-manager package and plugged / unplugged ethernet cable; after that the problem seems to be gone, at least for now
[18:36] <portnov> and now i do not know, what solved the problem
[18:36] <portnov> either reinstall or cable plug/unplug
[18:37] <xervans> I'll reinstall network manager, restart, and let you know as soon as I'm done
[18:37] <portnov> ok :)
[18:42] <xervans> hey portnov, that actually worked. I can't believe it was that simple lol
[18:42] <portnov> heh
[18:42] <portnov> it's pretty windows-ish way to solve problems :)
[18:42] <xervans> Well, now it seems likely in your case it was also the network manager
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> portnov  +1
[18:42] <portnov> yeah
[18:42] <xervans> HAHA yes. thank you portnov
[18:43] <effectnet> i wonder how to see pdf's in the firefox browser
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> effectnet  click on the pdf link, read the file
[18:44] <effectnet> heh
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> effectnet  it opens in a new tab, then you can download it
[18:45] <effectnet> hmmk
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> effectnet  try it http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/16.04/en_US/screen/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2016.04.pdf
[18:47] <effectnet> oh that worked thx i guess it's my link
[18:54] <ozbrk> wahat is the ubuntu gnomes ırc
[18:55] <k1l> ozbrk: #ubuntu-gnome
[18:59] <curlyears> greets
[18:59] <sebsebsebb> hi
[18:59] <curlyears> anything happening in here?
[19:00] <k1l> curlyears: for chatting just join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[19:01] <curlyears> k1l:  sorry, was just trying to see if the channel had awakened.  I was in early this morning, and couldn't get ay responses.
[19:02] <k1l> curlyears: most users/helpers in here react on actualy technical questions :)
[19:03] <daed> i just got a new soundcard that's compatible with linux, uses snd-oxygen driver, it's modprobed and installed, it shows up in "lspci" properly... but ubuntu shows 0 sound output devices in the sound settings GUI
[19:03] <curlyears> so, a question:  what is a recommended way to calculate the size for your /swap partition.  The 11.04.4 installer sets mine to 25GB.  I have 24GB of RAM, and I  strongly suspect there's a corealtion there
[19:03] <xervans> wow thats a lot of ram. do you mean how to calculate what it ought to be?
[19:03] <curlyears> daed:  it would probably help if you identified which release of ubuntu you're runnning
[19:04] <daed> curlyears: latest, 16.04
[19:04] <curlyears> yes, xervans, that is what I mean
[19:04] <daed> 'alsamixer' allows me to select the device and configure its outputs as well
[19:04] <k1l> curlyears: swap = ram, if you want hibernation. and if you know that this amount of ram will not be enough and you need a swap.
[19:04] <portnov> wut
[19:04] <k1l> curlyears: if you dont want to use hibernation and you know you wont use that much ram, then you donbt need swap at all
[19:04] <curlyears> k1l;  so my suspicion  is correct. then?
[19:05] <portnov> who would need swap with 24GB of ram!?
[19:05] <lyze> those people who want to use hibernation
[19:05] <portnov> ah
[19:05] <curlyears> hibernation would only bbe relevant to portables like notebooks, etc., right?
[19:05] <Mattx> Hello. I'm having problems with an app (Android Studio). Sometimes the menu of the window (File Edit View etc) won't open. If I close the application and open it again it works for a while.
[19:05] <k1l> or if you run a lot of VMs, or do video editing etc.
[19:05] <portnov> is it possible to tell linux to use swap _only_ for hibernation?
[19:05] <Mattx> Is it a known ubuntu bug?
[19:06] <xervans> I have read now the "rule of thumb" is for a swap file to be twice the amount of your RAM
[19:06] <xervans> curlyears
[19:06] <daed> xervans: i have 64gb of ram.. 128gb of swap seems excessive..
[19:06] <k1l> xervans: curlyears that is for the old days. where ram was like 100mb
[19:06] <portnov> o_O
[19:06] <Mattx> I can see the menu but there is no drop down. if I click over File for instance, nothing happens. On double click the windows is resized
[19:06] <xervans> i stand corrected
[19:06] <ioria> 64G ....
[19:07]  * portnov has 16 gb on desktop and 8gb on laptop
[19:07] <portnov> it seems enough for most cases
[19:07] <daed> portnov: i often run 4 8gb virtual machines simultaneously.. so it goes fast
[19:07] <curlyears> Mattx:  it sounds  mmore like a BUG IN THE APPLICATKON PROGRAM
[19:07] <portnov> though 16gb may be not enough for java development
[19:07] <curlyears> sorry for the caps
[19:09] <tgm4883> daed: sounds like you need a hypervisor that can dedup ram
[19:09] <daed> tgm4883: i'm simulating hadoop clusters that are all unique
[19:09] <daed> not sure dedup would help
[19:09] <curlyears> daed:  may I pm you?
[19:10] <ozbrk> ummm guys
[19:10] <daed> curlyears: sure
[19:10] <ozbrk> I spotted a strange bug on firefox
[19:10] <curlyears> portnov:  why would java development be so RAM heavy?
[19:10] <daed> curlyears: java requires significant ram, java-based IDEs will easily eat 6gb by themselves
[19:11] <lyze> What coudl be the problem when the keyboard takes ~20 seconds on the login screen to function. Windows / bios it works directly.
[19:11] <sebsebsebb>
[19:11] <portnov> curlyears: i think not because java itself, but because its ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT :)
[19:11] <portnov> with huge applications and so on
[19:12] <curlyears> portnov:  that does make sense, I suppose
[19:12] <JMichaelX> is anyone else here experiencing problems with mame in 16.04? for me, games pause or lock up frequently
[19:13] <curlyears> a bit off topic, but;  where do you guys buy SDHC cards at good prices?
[19:13] <curlyears> since it's to load and run ubuntu on my Pi3, I suppose it isn't too far off topic
[19:14] <tgm4883> curlyears: I'd consider that off topic, but I buy mine from Amazon
[19:15] <curlyears> the people who put oout MAKE are developing a n ubuntu 16.04LTS version for the Pi3 (64 bit)
[19:15] <tgm4883> MAKE?
[19:16] <JMichaelX> i presume he means MAKE magazine
[19:16] <squinty> make magazine
[19:17] <tgm4883> could be
[19:17] <tgm4883> could also mean MATE
[19:18] <ioria> http://makezine.com/
[19:19] <curlyears> JMichaelX:  nno, I maen the people wo do the make file menger for linux
[19:19] <curlyears> did I remember the name wrong again?  *blush*
[19:19] <curlyears> s/menger/manager/
[19:20] <curlyears> MATE, thank you, tgm4883
[19:20] <curlyears> phablet seems to be having a lot of trouble staying connected today
[19:21] <curlyears> I can't wait to see how well ubuntu 16.04 runs on  my Pi3
[19:22] <tgm4883> curlyears: you can run the pi2 image on it now
[19:22] <curlyears> I am interested in seeing the 64bit performance, tgm4883
[19:23] <daed> i partially figured out the sound problem.. i'm getting a pulseaudio error "master sink not found" on the module "module-ladspa-sink"... related to the equalizer it looks like..
[19:23] <curlyears> I PAID for 64 bits, dagnab it, I don't want to dilly-dally leaving 32 of those bits unused
[19:23] <sebsebsebb> j
[19:26] <daed> i commented out the ladspa-sink equalizer section of default.pa and sound works now.. but now i dont get equalizer :(
[19:27] <curlyears> daed:>  file a bug report with womever provides the soundapplication you'reusing
[19:27] <tgm4883> curlyears: I'm not optimistic on the performance gains we will see out of 64 bit on that. It's not like we are doing a ton of number crunching on there
[19:27] <curlyears> daed:  or check to see if you're missing some dependecies while building it
[19:29] <curlyears> tgm4883, I am planning on doing some voice recognition/synthesis work with it, I suspect 64bits will work a little better than 32 bits, and the Pi3 has a 20% faster clock rate
[19:30] <k1l> curlyears: ARM is a different animal
[19:31] <curlyears> I just *KNOWW* there has to be some documentation available (guides, whatever) on how to design a device driver for ubuntu, right?
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> curlyears  FWIW, there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:31] <k1l> on PC you only go for 64bit. but on ARM it depends on your exact device and if someone made a 64bit port already.
[19:32] <curlyears> k1l:  I am aware  of that, but a 20% higher clockrate and twice as wide word length has to yield some benefit
[19:32] <curlyears> there is a 64 bit port of 16.04 being made ready by the people at MATE
[19:34] <curlyears> if 64bit operation didn't yield some benefit, ARM wiuold never have released it
[19:35] <curlyears> it will be interesting to see how RAM heavy synthesis is over voice recognition (or the reverse if that is the case)
[19:36] <curlyears> what is the name of the o ther ubuntu channel, the oe where chatting is allowed?
[19:37] <k1l> !ot | curlyears
[19:37] <bethann336> hello o/
[19:37] <curlyears> ah, thanks k1l
[19:37] <daed> curlyears: i suspect this is the result of swapping soundcards and equalizer being set up originally on the old soundcard
[19:37] <daed> just need to figure out how to reconfigure everything
[19:39] <ash_workz> so, if a diff doesn't have a symbol between the two lines, does that mean the lines are identical? (they look identical)
[19:39] <ash_workz> ie: foo foo
[19:39] <ash_workz> instead of: foo > bar
[19:39] <ash_workz> or: foo | foo
[19:39] <ash_workz> diff -y
[19:39] <ash_workz> I mean
[19:40] <bethann336> i am playing with the idea of switching my asus G73Jw over to ubuntu and had some questions regarding the nvidia graphics i have on board
[19:41] <bethann336> since asus no longer supports upgrades/updates for the drivers will i be able to use a newer driver or will i have to stick with the latest that asus has provided?
[19:42] <OerHeks> bethann336, " no longer supports upgrades/updates for the drivers " ?? where did you read that?
[19:42] <heth> hi, I was able to disable my video in BIOS, and now I cannot boot in ubuntu, it's all black, can you help?
[19:42] <curlyears> bethann336, who would have provided drivers for proprietary hardware after the vendor ceases support?
[19:43] <daed> curlyears: completely removed old configs, uninstalled pulseaudio + equalizer, reinstalled everything, now it works
[19:43] <daed> FWIW
[19:43] <bethann336> that's the problem i have now with windows, they have not updated their version of the driver for a long time even though nvidia has made numerous updates since that version
[19:43] <curlyears> dead: huzzah!
[19:43] <bethann336> and i cannot use the one that nvidia puts out
[19:43] <OerHeks> bethann336, furthermore, ubuntu provides Nvidia drivers in the repos, no need to look at the asus/nvidia site
[19:45] <curlyears> what is the  current estimate of worldwide installs of ubuntu?  Last I  saw, it was ~~10 million
[19:45] <bethann336> ok cool about the repos, but has anybody run into problems because of asus's support?
[19:45] <Ben64> bethann336: has nothing to do with asus
[19:46] <bethann336> what do you mean? i can't use the nvidia updates at all, because asus has their own version
[19:46] <OerHeks> bethann336, have you actually tried ubuntu ?
[19:46] <bethann336> with windows anyway
[19:46] <bethann336> not yet, but i don't want to cripple my laptop by switching to it
[19:46] <tgm4883> bethann336: the only thing you would need to go to Asus for is BIOS upgrades
[19:46] <Ben64> bethann336: off topic, but thats not how it works on windows
[19:47] <OerHeks> oh, so you come with assumptions.. i thought you had ubuntu issues with nvidia
[19:47] <curlyears> bethann336, ubuuntu offer s Live-DVD trial install that changes nothing on your hard drive.
[19:47] <bethann336> no assumptions, just addressing possible hiccups to switching
[19:47] <curlyears> so you can try ubuntu without any risk to your current setup
[19:48] <bethann336> or a download installed on a thumb drive will work too, right?
[19:48] <curlyears> same idea, bethann336
[19:49] <bethann336> ok, as much as i am comfortable with windows 7, i am not comfortable with windows' current policies regarding forcing windows 10 on me
[19:49] <ioria> right
[19:49] <curlyears> *YAY*  Another MIcro$fot dissenter!!!!
[19:50] <ash_workz> OerHeks: I got disconnected for awhile; so I diffed the file on that askubuntu (I think that's the default sources list?) with my current file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/82d1f532d5e09f3e9b5d9facc3f4427d
[19:50] <ash_workz> OerHeks: should I be concerned about the differences?
[19:50] <heth> hi, I was able to disable my external video in BIOS before enabling the internal, and now I cannot boot in ubuntu, it's all black, can you help? (LEnovo G510)
[19:50] <Johnny_Linux> bethann336: either burn a cd or put a live session on a usb stick and try it
[19:50] <bethann336> i would probably have to save all my files and data to another storage device if i wanted to install linux to my hardrive?
[19:51] <OerHeks> ash_workz, i would cut/paste the sourceslist from that example, and would be done in a minute...
[19:51] <curlyears> heth:  what version of ubuntu?
[19:51] <heth> curlyears, 16.04
[19:51] <curlyears> what is the  current estimate of worldwide installs of ubuntu?  Last I  saw, it was ~~10 million
[19:51] <ash_workz> OerHeks: yeah, but for example, the copy/paste would override the virtualbox line (at the end)
[19:51] <OerHeks> curlyears, there are no stats about that, AFAIK
[19:52] <bethann336> i'm not sure which version to use, but although i am not a complete computer illiterate, I'm not a pro either
[19:52] <curlyears> yeah, I've seen a nnumber of people in here with video issues when switching to 16.04
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> bethann336:  try 14.04
[19:52] <OerHeks> ash_workz, virtualbox should not be in that sourceslist, but should have its own entry in sources.list.d
[19:52] <heth> Hello, I was able to disable my external video in BIOS before enabling the internal, and now I cannot boot in ubuntu, it's all black, can you help? (LEnovo G510)
[19:52] <bethann336> that's ubuntu, correct?
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> ya
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> lts
[19:53] <ash_workz> ~.~ ... does add-apt-repository change this file? I certainly didn't do this manually
[19:53] <curlyears> bethann336, the current viable choices are 14.04.4 or 16.04.  16.04 is the latest LTS release
[19:53] <bethann336> but i might have issues with graphics on 16.04, correct?
[19:53] <OerHeks> ash_workz, that entry looks like the old way, 12.04 or something like that, it has changed to keep the original sourceslist clean
[19:54] <curlyears> don't people try 16.04 in Live-DVD mode before upgrading?
[19:54] <k1l> curlyears: no. most dont
[19:54] <bethann336> i'm a gamer, just an fyi, i play sandbox games like wurm online
[19:54] <Johnny_Linux> bethann336:  maybe, idk, 10.04 seems like a safe bet
[19:54] <Johnny_Linux> 14.04
[19:54] <\9> 10.04 is eol
[19:54] <curlyears> bethann336, you might, yes, but if you run it in Live-DVD (or off a USB) it won't affect your current WinBlows setup at alkl
[19:54] <ash_workz> OerHeks: yeah, but I'm just wondering how it got there in the first place
[19:56] <curlyears> bethann336, :  when you boot from the linux install media, it comes up first thing and oiffers you a choic e between a Live DVD run, or an iinstall run
[19:57] <curlyears> bethann336, so you could download both 14.04.4 and 16.04, make two DVDs (or USBs) and try both, see which works etter for you
[19:57] <curlyears> 14.044 will continue to be support until 2019, 16.04 until 2021
[19:58] <ash_workz> OerHeks: any ideas? It wasn't carried over from a previous install (like, I didn't upgrade to 14 from 12 or anything)
[19:58] <OerHeks> ash_workz, question yourself, how did you add virtualbox repo ?
[19:58] <bethann336> @curlyears: thanx i will try that gotta find all my thumb drives first, thanx.
[19:59] <akik> curlyears: isn't it so that you can not test the closed source nvidia driver in the live session?
[19:59] <bethann336> another question, if i choose to actually install onto my hardrive, will it remove windows altogether?
[19:59] <Ben64> you could choose to dual boot
[19:59] <Ben64> and 16.04 is what you should choose at this point
[20:00] <curlyears> akik:  probably, I would imagine.
[20:00] <bethann336> don't think i have the resources to have both tbh, is there any good reason to leave windows on?
[20:00] <Ben64> you like it?
[20:00] <ash_workz> OerHeks: yeah, I probably followed instructions to add it on https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:00] <curlyears> bethann336, how much free HDD space do you have?
[20:00] <ash_workz> which explicitly says to
[20:00] <ash_workz> thanks OerHeks
[20:00] <bethann336> i have no problems with windows 7, honestly, but i don't like where windows is going now
[20:01] <Ben64> ash_workz: protip - search the software center for things before going to websites
[20:01] <ash_workz> Ben64: :)
[20:01] <curlyears> bethann336, you can install it to a separate partition, if you choose to dual boot
[20:01] <Ben64> ash_workz: virtualbox is in the repository already, the one you added is a newer version and has some cool additional features, but it's not good to do that for everything you'd want to install
[20:02] <ash_workz> Ben64: thanks, I honestly don't even remember *how* I added it; I usually try to install things via apt-get install if possible
[20:03]  * curlyears is proud to say that no Mickey$hit software has ever demeaned thih\s hardware
[20:03] <ash_workz> though, now that you mention it, I vaguely remember going through the software center
[20:03] <Ben64> curlyears: watch the language, and the m$ stuff isn't appropriate here
[20:03] <curlyears> sowwy, Ben64
[20:04] <k1l> curlyears: we dont need to talk bad about other OS or projects to make us feel better. we try to focus on the technical issues in here.
[20:04] <curlyears> I repeat my query for the third time:  what are the currect estimates of worldwide installations of ubuntu?  Last time I heard, they were around 10 million
[20:05] <k1l> curlyears: you cna only guess the number. since there is no licence key that could be counted.
[20:05] <OerHeks> curlyears, there are no stats about that, AFAIK
[20:05] <bethann336> is there a resource that shows/compares the different iterations of linux so that i might clearly see the differences?
[20:06] <k1l> curlyears: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2015/12/more-people-use-ubuntu-than-anyone.html
[20:06] <OerHeks> bethann336, check out distrowatch
[20:06] <curlyears> Oerheks:  I have seen on a website somewhere and estimate of the installs for WinBlows vs linux (not ubuntu specifically. actually., but all linux')
[20:06] <ash_workz> thanks Ben64
[20:07] <bethann336> @OerHeks: could you please link me to that?
[20:07] <OerHeks> https://distrowatch.com easy to find
[20:07]  * ash_workz is annoyed that there 2 Ben6's
[20:07] <bethann336> @OerHeks: Thanx!
[20:07] <Ben64> ash_workz: both me
[20:08] <friendofkiwi> i have problem with java, since i upgraded to 16.04, is there any quick fix ?
[20:08] <k1l> bethann336: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
[20:08] <friendofkiwi> i googled my head and tried everything
[20:09] <OerHeks> curlyears, even the numbers on https://distrowatch.com are just their clicks to the distro page, does not count as installed/download at all
[20:09] <Ben64> friendofkiwi: java what, what problem
[20:11] <friendofkiwi> Ben64 i think it has been removed in the upgrading process
[20:11] <friendofkiwi> E: Package 'oracle-java7-installer' has no installation candidate
[20:12] <friendofkiwi> and now this message, for every version i try to install
[20:12] <Ben64> that package was never in ubuntu, you used some 3rd party repository
[20:12] <OerHeks> !java
[20:13] <friendofkiwi> okay thanks guys
[20:13] <OerHeks> "Oracle has declared Java 8 to be fit for general use."
[20:13] <curlyears> k1l:  *wow* those numbers are truly astounding.  That article estimates that direct and indirectly, over 1 BILLION people benefir form an installation of ubuntu.  With numbers like that, it is bafflinf how many hardware vendors DON'T support linux.
[20:15] <friendofkiwi> OerHeks yes but my university profesors insist on Java 7, i dont know why exactly.
[20:15] <k1l> curlyears: yes. but that talk is out of the technical support scope of this channel. #ubuntu-offtopic would be better
[20:15] <Guest78894> Hi
[20:16] <curlyears> friendofkiwi, because they dinosaurs, and that is the version they're familiar with, and they're unwilling to put any effort into familiarizing themselves with the latest version
[20:16] <curlyears> k1l:  oh, OK
[20:16] <white_magic> hi guys, i'm running a webserver in a vm and i can retrieve a webpage using localhost:port in the vm but i cant reach that webserver in the machine that hosts the vm.. but i can easily ssh into that vm from the host machine.. do I need to open port 3000 in vmware somehow? thanks in advance..
[20:16] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. Am dual booting 16.04 and win7. Need to reinstall win, but after I do, will I be able to use these instructions to restore grub? http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[20:17] <lyze> HypothesisFrog, yup
[20:17] <OerHeks> HypothesisFrog, answered that already. yes
[20:17] <friendofkiwi> curlyears i think that version8 is still bugy, maybe that... they are sophistacated in other fields thou
[20:17] <OerHeks> HypothesisFrog, or use our wiki page
[20:17] <OerHeks> !grub
[20:18] <HypothesisFrog> lyze thanks OerHeks sorry. Didn't see your reply.
[20:18] <OerHeks> HypothesisFrog, have fun!
[20:18] <HypothesisFrog> cheers
[20:19] <curlyears> is 100% of ubuntu core in C or some other high level language, or does each port equire some assembly work?
[20:20] <curlyears> hey, Ravi
[20:20] <tgm4883> curlyears: I'd suggest taking all these questions to #ubuntu-discuss since they aren't support questions
[20:21] <curlyears> OK, OK, apparently it's time for me to depart
[20:22] <Guest74784> cu
[20:32] <cicko> can I clone a bigger usb flash drive to a smaller using dd command?
[20:33] <k1l> cicko: yes. but it will stop when the smaller one is full. and all the data left is not copied
[20:34] <cicko> k1l I've tried that, but it seems to have failed, the capacity of the smaller one is now said to be as the bigger one, and it is unusable
[20:36] <sebthreeM10white> hi
[20:36] <frostschutz> cicko, dd is not aware of partition tables, file systems, etc. so obviously you have to make sure the copy will still make sense if the end is missing... otherwise the answer is: no, you shouldn't do that
[20:38] <cicko> frostschutz only about half the size of the smaller one is used on the bigger one, else is the empty space. is it possible to clone used space only?
[20:38] <aurimenes> hey
[20:38] <frostschutz> cicko, dd is not aware of filesystem notions like "used", "empty" space... you have to use filesystem tools for that, like shrink the filesystem first using resize2fs
[20:39] <frostschutz> cicko, or just format your stick normally and then cp -a the files themselves
[20:39] <cicko> i'll try shrinking it thanks frostschutz
[20:40] <sfigazo> è il canale di ubuntu in italiano questo?
[20:41] <EriC^^> !it | sfigazo
[20:41] <sfigazo> grazie
[20:41] <ZoderUck> crazie crazie
[20:41] <ZoderUck> Hi, uh, i have on vncserver when i open some application  etension RANDR missing on display
[20:42] <sebthreeM10white> !it
[20:43] <Pawel2> Hi
[20:46] <sebthreeM10white> sdevj
[20:46] <sebthreeM10white> sebsebseb
[20:46] <sebthreeM10white> hi paswei2
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> sebthreeM10white  it works, we see you
[20:48] <erkules> hi, is there a way to disable the cgroup namespace via grub?
[20:48] <Pawel2> Łack a eet. Heu
[20:48] <ZoderUck>  Hi, uh, i have on vncserver when i open some application  etension RANDR missing on display
[20:50] <OerHeks> erkules, why ? "systemd organizes processes with cgroups, this is a Linux kernel feature to limit, police and account the resource usage of certain processes"
[20:52] <erkules> OerHeks: I would like to check something
[20:52] <erkules> docker --userns-remap is not working in 16.04 and Im wondering why
[20:56] <damolima> \leave
[20:56] <OerHeks> erkules, you might want to reask in #docker ?
[20:57] <erkules> OerHeks: I don't expect to get an answer in here because of docker. I asked about a way to disable the cgroup ns.
[20:59] <leonarth> how do I separate 2 arguments if the other one is more complex in BASH
[20:59] <leonarth> e.g.: `mv "$file" $file | sed "s/test/$newtest/g"`
[20:59] <leonarth> $() doesn't seem to work to group the second arg
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> leonarth  better ask in #bash
[21:00] <leonarth> thanks MonkeyDust
[21:00] <lava_> Hello
[21:00] <lava_> Anyone here
[21:01] <tonyt> no
[21:01] <OerHeks> lava_, anyone just left with everybody
[21:01] <tonyt> lol
[21:01] <jacob_z> :D
[21:02] <m0t> Hi! It seems that the apache2-mpm-event package is missing in Ubuntu Xenial.
[21:02] <tgm4883> !info apache2-mpm-event
[21:02] <lava_> Hello everyone, I am new to Ubuntu MATE. I am enjoying it so far.
[21:02] <m0t> I know
[21:02] <seto> hi all
[21:02] <m0t> Was it replaced?
[21:03] <lava_> I am installing 1,000 solitare games lol
[21:03] <Bashing-om> !info apache2-mpm-event xenial
[21:03] <tgm4883> looks like it was removed in 14.04
[21:03] <seto> well after reading on how to strip down kubuntu i found that it is suppose to be impossible to get it down to like sub 5gb or so
[21:03] <debidi> O.o
[21:03] <lava_> Why is a lot of gibberish being typed out by human beings here?
[21:03] <m0t> tgm4883: Do you know any alternatives?
[21:04] <lava_> Hello can anyone hear me?
[21:04] <seto> and i have ubuntu installed on a 16gb ssd on a chrome book and have a bit over 9gb free lol
[21:04] <tgm4883> m0t: well I don't know what it does, so no I don't know any alternatives
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> lava_  this is the support channel, sure you want to be here?
[21:04] <lava_> oh, wew, someone can hear me
[21:05] <lava_> Not a lot of support here, if it takes 5 minutes for 1 person to respond.
[21:05] <lava_> Monkey, can you answer my question I asked up there?
[21:05] <tgm4883> lava_: you didn't ask any support questions...
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> lava_  ask your question or go to another channel
[21:05] <lava_> Is it too hard for you to scroll upward?
[21:06] <tgm4883> lava_: I did, I don't see any questions from you
[21:06] <lava_> What kind of effort are you supposing to give out to noobs here bro?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> lava_  hit the up arrow to repeat your question
[21:06] <OerHeks> lava_, nice attitude, as you didn't asked a support question (yet)
[21:06] <lava_> I asked why so many human beings were typing gibberish in this chat
[21:06] <\9> lava_: this is an irc support channel run by volunteers. cut the demanding attitude
[21:06] <tgm4883> lava_: which isn't a support question
[21:06] <FManTropyx> that is your support question?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> lava_  type /topic
[21:07] <m0t> tgm4883: It is better to see the docs: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mpm.html basically you can run apache in multithread mode instead of multiprocess mode.
[21:07] <lava_> Is that your way of saying you don't know? Please let the ones to do respond, so that I may understand this Ubuntu MATE application, as I am new to Ubuntu MATE. Thank you, Fman
[21:07] <m0t> tgm4883: but actually you an mix them with MPM event
[21:08] <\9> lava_: if you have a specific question regarding ubuntu, please ask. if you don't, please seek some other channel, e.g. #ubuntu-offtopic. you're currently disrupting this irc channel by asking non-questions
[21:08] <FManTropyx> uninstall Ubuntu and install Windows
[21:08] <m0t> tgm4883: and it is better for speed as using threads can give you a better troughput and better latency, but this depends on other factors too.
[21:08] <Guest63470> how can i change default monitor output by terminal<
[21:08] <tgm4883> lava_: what may seem like gibberish to you is actually a technical conversation between multiple people (some requesting help, some offering help)
[21:08] <Guest63470> ??
[21:08] <seto> quick question what channel is general chat for ubuntu ?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> seto  #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <\9> seto: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <tgm4883> #ubuntu-discuss
[21:09] <seto> ty
[21:09] <lava_> This is an example of a human being typing gibberish in a noob chat --  !info apache2-mpm-event xenial
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> lava_  stop
[21:10] <tgm4883> lava_: ah, that is a query asking the bot for some info
[21:10] <Guest63470> who can help me?
[21:10] <tgm4883> lava_: all of this is off topic
[21:10] <lyze> Depends on your question
[21:10] <tgm4883> Guest63470: what do you mean by "output"?
[21:10] <lava_> How would I know there is a bot here, exactly? Where are the overt explanation for that? The instructions please?
[21:10] <k1l> !irc > lava_
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> !bot | lava_
[21:10] <Bashing-om> lava_: " !info apache2-mpm-event xenial" : legitimate reason to pick our bot's brain .
[21:11] <k1l> lava_: the bot just gave you a link in a pm. please read that
[21:11] <tgm4883> lava_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[21:11] <lava_> Monkey, that is not a response to my question. It is just a statement, but thank you.
[21:11] <lava_> ok I will attempt to read it.
[21:11] <\9> it was a response to your question
[21:11] <seto> ooooh net lag while checking email ...
[21:11] <lava_> My question is how is a noob to this chat supposed to know, before he asks, that there is a bot here.
[21:12] <Guest63470> i have a all in one... runing ubuntu it have 2 output for video
[21:12] <Flannel> lava_: Please help keep this channel on-topic.  This channel is for ubuntu-related technical support questions.  Not general questions about IRC.  thanks.
[21:12] <FManTropyx> I learned by observing first
[21:12] <lava_> This is IRC?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> lava_  i guess you don't want to be here
[21:12] <lyze> lava_, there's a channel topic. read that first. click the links. there is everything explained. or observe
[21:12] <k1l> !guidelines | lava_
[21:12] <tgm4883> lava_: as you put it, a "noob" should ask a support question. "noobs" don't need to know that a bot exists to ask for help
[21:12] <m0t> I think lava_ is trolling.
[21:12] <lava_> This chat is a part of the welcome screen for Ubuntu MATE. The welcome screen could not be more relevant to Ubuntu MATE chat.
[21:13] <\9> the welcome screen linked you to this chat
[21:13] <lava_> I am a new user, I came here from Ubuntu vanilla 16.04.
[21:13] <\9> for in case you had any trouble with ubuntu
[21:13] <Guest63470> lava leave and let leave
[21:13] <lava_> users always have trouble with Linux.
[21:13] <lava_> That is a redundant statement
[21:13] <FManTropyx> :)
[21:13] <\9> heh...
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> lava_  go away
[21:14] <\9> lava_: now you're just being disruptive
[21:14] <k1l> lava_: i muted you know due to repeated off-topic and several warnings. if you want that mute to be removed join #ubuntu-ops
[21:15] <kzic> Jj
[21:15] <Flannel> lava_: Please type `/join #ubuntu-offtopic`, your questions are completely appropriate there.  But they're not appropriate here.
[21:15] <Guest63470> what about my Q?
[21:15] <tgm4883> Guest63470: I asked you a question, did you repond?
[21:15] <tgm4883> Guest63470: what do you mean by "output"?
[21:15] <Linux_noob> Hi, I am back.  How to troubleshoot ?
[21:23] <m0t> tgm4883: Found the solution about missing apache2-mpm-event. Not it is part of apache2 and you just need to activate it with: a2enmod mpm_event && systemctl reload apache2
[21:23] <m0t> tgm4883: This should be documented...
[21:23] <tgm4883> m0t: so document it?
[21:24] <m0t> tgm4883: Sure, I will do it. Where do you think would be the proper place?
[21:25] <Spinach> Hi
[21:25] <FManTropyx> hello
[21:25] <FManTropyx> I prefer apache2ctl restart
[21:26] <Spinach> How do I "safely remove" an external drive, with graphical tools?
[21:26] <john_rambo> Anybody ?
[21:26] <Spinach> Hi ramby
[21:26] <tgm4883> m0t: probably the ubuntu wiki
[21:26] <john_rambo> Spinach: After boot sound stops working after playing for some seconds .... How to troubleshoot ?
[21:26] <lyze> Spinach, you open your file manager, click on the remove arrow next to the ehd
[21:26] <Spinach> Lyze, that only unmounts, not "Safely remove drive"
[21:27] <Spinach> rambo, can you describe your situation more fully?
[21:27] <lyze> Spinach, well you can't unmount it if it's in use. So no need to "safely remove it"
[21:27] <m0t> tgm4883: ack ;) thank you!
[21:28] <Spinach> Just to warn you, as well, rambo, this chat is really bad. A lot of users give noobs attitude immediately, and/or ban them. Don't expect good support in general with Linux.
[21:28] <FManTropyx> sigh
[21:28] <john_rambo> Spinach: After boot when I open a video file with Smplayer or Vlc ....sound plays for some seconds then goes mute
[21:28] <Spinach> lyze, there is a need to safely remove it, if i say there is a need. How do I do it?
[21:28] <FManTropyx> general Linux support is on #linux :P
[21:28] <tgm4883> Spinach: *citation needed
[21:28] <Spinach> Leave me alone, tgm4883, or troll elsewhere
[21:29] <Flannel> Spinach: Please stop that.  Keep this channel to just technical support.
[21:29] <JackJones> when I do last -10 how many instances of "still logged in" should I normally see?
[21:29] <Spinach> lyze, can you do you know how do safely remove drive?
[21:29] <tgm4883> Spinach: grow up
[21:29] <Flannel> Spinach: You were already answered, the "unmount" will safely remove it.
[21:29] <Spinach> Please leave tgm4883, I am trying to read lyze's answer about my issue
[21:30] <Spinach> I assume lyze would not leave without finishing his support of my issue.
[21:30] <tgm4883> Spinach: please keep your chat support related
[21:30] <m0t> john_rambo: Is your sound problem happening with all applications?
[21:30] <Spinach> Stop talking to me please tgm. I am attempting to focus on lyze's support of my drive issue.
[21:30] <lyze> The only thing what "safely remove" does is: if the HD is in use … then "can't remove" and if not … it removes it
[21:30] <Spinach> Thank you lyze.
[21:31] <Spinach> lyze, can you more fully help me? Thank you for responding. So, can we start by showing me where this safely remove drive could be? I cannot see the option to begin with.
[21:32] <Spinach> k1l does not mean k1l. Period.
[21:32] <boughani> Hello
[21:32] <lyze> …
[21:32] <Ben64> Spinach: as you were told already, the little eject icon next to the drive in your file manager
[21:32] <Spinach> k1l does not mean kill* I meant to say.
[21:32] <lyze> Today are lot of trolls here, aren't they
[21:32] <Spinach> I have seen no explicit text that formally tells me the drive is fully ejected.
[21:32] <boughani> What The best Softwar For ubuntu For dowloands
[21:33] <boughani> ??,
[21:33] <bekks> boughani: wget or curl.
[21:33] <Ben64> Spinach: once it is gone from the file manager, it's ready to remove
[21:33] <Spinach> boughani full sentence please?
[21:33] <boughani> thanx
[21:33] <godfuture> hi all!
[21:33] <lyze> If the hard drive isn't in the list anymore then it's gone
[21:33] <lyze> or greyed out
[21:33] <Spinach> ben64, can you try to answer my question as I have typed it, instead of answering the question you wish I had asked you? Thank you. I hope this is a good chat for noobs, so that Linux can grow on the desktop for once.
[21:34] <godfuture> does someone know openvpn and routing? I have too leave for travel and my previous running openvpn server is not fully working anymore
[21:34] <Spinach> My hard drive is always in the list.
[21:34] <boughani> Oki i need software for dowloands FIle like idm
[21:34] <boughani> in windows
[21:34] <Ben64> Spinach: if the eject icon is no longer there, it's unmounted and you can remove it
[21:34] <Spinach> What is IDM? Can you please fully spell out what you need help with, so that a non-troll, non-narcissist here might decide to help you?
[21:34] <OerHeks> ...
[21:35] <Spinach> Ben64, if you are not going to answer my question as I have typed it, please ignore my chat. Thank you.
[21:35]  * tgm4883 sighs
[21:35] <m0t> godfuture: I can help you with that, what is the problem?
[21:35] <boughani> nn
[21:35] <Ben64> Spinach: you're looking for a specific answer that you simply are not going to get. this is not windows. use your head and listen to what people are telling you
[21:35] <godfuture> wow, great. I have to leave tomorrow and somehow it seems that I cannot reach my routed privat net.
[21:35] <\9> Ben64: it's a troll who's evading his ban for the second time
[21:36] <FManTropyx> maybe everyone should put him on ignore :)
[21:36] <Spinach> I have seen safely remove drive in both Ubuntu vanilla and Ubuntu MATE before. I will find a way to see it again, and that is that.
[21:36] <boughani> Idm is software who help you to dowloands FIles In windows it's the most pupular After utterent
[21:36] <godfuture> I have moved my server hardware....and I guess after moving my logical name of net dev changed...from there the sh** started
[21:36] <m0t> godfuture: Is openvpn daemon started? Did you check the logs?
[21:36] <lyze> boughani, what specifically do you need. can't you just need wget for that? :)
[21:37] <k1l> Spinach: please stop evading the mutes. join #ubuntu-ops to get that mute removed. dont rejoin this channel before that mute is resolved.
[21:37] <boughani> yes but i need to Dowloands Big FIles in My browser
[21:37] <boughani> ANd helaged
[21:37] <boughani> It laged
[21:38] <dax> Spinach: only channel ops. /join #ubuntu-ops, thanks.
[21:38] <ventura> i did some thing really stupid while i was upgrading to xerus: i did not backup my encrypted home
[21:38] <ventura> is it possible mount and decrypt my home folder?
[21:39] <boughani> the second Problem My ubuntu software Don't work Why
[21:39] <\9> which software is not working? please provide details
[21:39] <Ben64> boughani: you need to get a lot more specific if you want to get help here
[21:39] <lyze> ventura, do you have the encryption key?
[21:40] <ventura> lyze: i encrypted with my password + empty paraphrase
[21:41] <ventura> lyze: i am using ecryptfs and right now i am getting "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"
[21:42] <white_magic> anyone here pro with tmux? I wonder if it's possible to create a new session w/o immediately attaching to it?
[21:42] <godfuture> m0t, I have sent you a private msg
[21:42] <boughani> Good bye FRiends
[21:45] <godfuture> m0t: deamon is started. Clients can connect.
[21:46] <godfuture> m0t, still there?
[21:46] <abdel_> HI
[21:46] <abdel_> SALUT TOUT LE MONDE
[21:48] <godfuture> m0t: I guess you're afk....
[21:48] <godfuture> Is there someone experienced with openVPN? I really could need some help...
[21:49] <Ben64> godfuture: ask a question, provide as much detail as possible, and if someone knows the answer, they'll answer
[21:50] <godfuture> kay, what do I have to do when connected openVPN clients cannot ping the server and routed subnets? It worked in the past...
[21:51] <mquin> white_magic: 'tmux new-session -d'
[21:51] <lyze> godfuture, Well … i don't know openvpn … but I just ask you the default questions. have you checked that the service is running, that there is no error in the log, that you have forwarded the port properly and that it isn't blocked by a wall?
[21:52] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:52] <lyze> o/
[21:53] <ZoderUck> vncserver works when i open some application  etension RANDR missing on display
[21:53] <lyze> godfuture, have you tried running a webserver or a different kind of application on that port, can you connect to that one?
[21:53] <white_magic> mquin: you're a godsend. thanks!
[21:57] <ventura> is there any client for mounting an encrypted folder? or only cli?
[22:03] <kerneld> Anyone run into apache problems with recent update for DirectoryIndex ?
[22:03] <kerneld> .shtml showing as a blank page when used via DirectoryIndex
[22:03] <kerneld> I fixed by changing  DirectoryIndexRedirect on
[22:04] <kerneld> ii  apache2                          2.4.7-1ubuntu4.9                 amd64        Apache HTTP Server
[22:05] <kerneld> never needed that before though. Like the extention handler is not used the same way from DirectoryIndex
[22:06] <gabo_> Hola buena tarde
[22:07] <Bashing-om> !es | gabo_
[22:25] <fabio_> I'm having crazy freezing and cpu usage when I start my ubuntu. Process is "/usr/bin/gnome-software --gapplication-service". Any idea on how to prevent it?
[22:31] <idDark_latino> hola
[22:33] <idDark_latino> hola
[22:33] <ZoderUck> how do i configure tigervnc
[22:35] <nefarious_> \join #planning
[22:40] <pilne> one day i'll figure out why steam likes to use all my free memory for page cache stuff >.<
[22:41] <Codfection> guys should I use ubuntu as my main OS or its not built for main OS?
[22:41] <Codfection> considering replacing windows
[22:41] <Codfection> suggestions would be highly appreciated
[22:42] <pilne> ... what makes you think that ubuntu (or really any of the major linux distros) wouldn't be "built" to be a main OS?
[22:42] <xangua> Codfection: that's something you should ask yourself, you can download Ubuntu and try it
[22:42] <Codfection> applications support and ease of use in general (like for installing u need to know commands.. right?)
[22:42] <OerHeks> I run ubuntu for 7 years now, as main os. but it is up to you.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> codfection what do you use a computer for
[22:43] <Codfection> programming and sometimes watching movies
[22:43] <Bashing-om> pilne: consider, any memory not used is wasted memory .
[22:44] <Codfection> sebsebseb, programming coding etc.
[22:44] <Codfection> what do you think
[22:44] <sebsebseb> codfection what do you program and how do you watch movies
[22:45] <pilne> i know bashing, but with it using 10gb... i wonder how many games it thinks i want to play lol
[22:45] <Codfection> stream online, android apps, c programming and re
[22:45] <sebsebseb> whats re
[22:46] <Bashing-om> Codfection: Many have this to relate. I left Windows at XP service pack 2 ; and have never looked back .
[22:47] <Codfection> Bashing-om, how is it going so far?
[22:47] <Codfection> you use ubuntu as ur everything driver?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> codfection do you make android apps or emulate them or what?
[22:47] <Codfection> isn't OS X superior over linux in general due to more applications support?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> pilne: Kernel manages memory .. pages in, pages out . .. but there is more that I do not know than otherwise.
[22:48] <OerHeks> Codfection, this in not the right channel to discuss, just technical support
[22:48] <pilne> os-x is fine if you want to have your balls in apple's vice
[22:48] <k1l> Codfection: that really depends on your exact programs and workflow. some have special programs they rely on which have no native linux version, dont run in wine or where there is no working alternative. but others can replace their OS just fine with ubuntu.
[22:48] <Bashing-om> Codfection: My only OS ... and I now have the knowledge and skills to " roll my own " .
[22:49] <Codfection> k1l, yea I guess os
[22:49] <OerHeks> superior sounds like a flamewar, such a silly question as you missing the key: open source/ open standards
[22:49] <Codfection> Bashing-om, oh thats great. gives me a hope
[22:49] <sebsebseb> whoops closed by mistake
[22:50] <seto> k1l i could replace windows with linux other than for 1 single program
[22:50] <seto> 3d studio max
[22:50] <Codfection> OerHeks, for instance, OS X can run latest MS Office 16 whereas linux cant
[22:50] <seto> but wont ever be a linux ver unless linux some how gets direct x
[22:50] <seto> if linux had that they would make a linux ver
[22:51] <k1l> Codfection: where ubuntu got libreoffice build in.
[22:51] <sebsebseb> codfusion I have used Desktop Linux since 2004 as my main OS, and a few Linux distributions, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mageia,  Mandriva, PC Linux OS, etc
[22:51] <Codfection> k1l, it doesn't have access or visio etc.
[22:52] <Codfection> sebsebseb, did you miss anything from windows?
[22:52] <Codfection> other than gaming
[22:52] <OerHeks> Codfection, so you answer your own question, great
[22:53] <sebsebseb> uh ubuntu tablet
[22:53] <sebsebseb> closeed  thedchannelagain by miistake
[22:54] <xangua> sebsebseb: most reviews say Ubuntu tablet it's slow... Also Mediatek
[22:55] <sebsebseb> codfection if you really want sucky acess and viso you can try running them via wine or codeweavers otherwise libre office for example should be pretty good for most other things
[22:56] <kerneld> or use the o365 versions
[22:56] <sebsebseb> xangua probably a bit for typing using the converged programs, but otherwise ok.  it seems to be a bit slow at keeping up with my typing,  via the o2g usb keyboard or bluetooth
[22:56] <Codfection> sebsebseb, how about emulating android apps
[22:56] <Codfection> ubuntu does it better than windows?
[22:58] <OerHeks> better than adroid itself?
[22:58] <OerHeks> LoLZ
[22:58] <sebsebseb> xangua giving it  good try for IRC right now but via a bluetooth keyboard this time
[22:58] <sebsebseb> xangua giving it  a good try right now for IRC but via a blueetooth keyboard this time
[22:58] <Codfection> better than how windows does it
[22:59] <Codfection> I heard windows 10 will have ubuntu terminal built in soon.
[23:00] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | Codfection
[23:00] <Codfection> so there will be no need of dual boot then?
[23:00] <Codfection> :)
[23:01] <OerHeks> Codfection, only you can answer that.
[23:01] <dax> sure, if the only thing you need from Ubuntu is a buggy terminal emulator with coreutils
[23:01] <jelly> Codfection, you don't have to dual boot when you have a windows VM
[23:01] <Bashing-om> Codfection: Only time will tell how well and what is supported in the ubuntu terminal .
[23:02] <Codfection> u mean ubuntu in a vm jelly
[23:02] <jelly> no
[23:02] <sebsebseb> codfection ther's a program called daveliki or soething like that for emuoolatingandtoid apps, but i think there are at least two for Linux.  I think Windows and most Linux distros are
[23:02] <sebsebseb> codfection I tink most Linux distrtos and windows will be about the same for emulating windows apps
[23:02] <Codfection> jelly, then?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Codfection however if you want a intereting Linux based device,that can emulate most Android apps or so it seems well, look into the Jolla phone :)
[23:04] <zeny> Probably VM is better than this ubuntu terminal on Windows. But both will still be crap
[23:04] <Codfection> zeny, so what setup do you recommend?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> codfection I think you should dual boot you can remove Windows later if you want
[23:05] <zeny> Codfection: remove windows, use only linux
[23:05] <Codfection> no I actually wanna keep one OS only due to 256 GB SSD only
[23:05] <Codfection> zeny, thats what I want to !
[23:05] <kerneld> build a lab hypervizor and run both
[23:06] <Codfection> zeny, the only thing thats keeping me from doing that is lack of some apps which I am used to on windows
[23:06] <zeny> But I still think the question we should be making is: Why does Microsoft ACTUALLY want to have a part on ubuntu? Not just this bad terminal, but what is it indicating about the maybe-not-so-far future
[23:06] <Codfection> such as word web
[23:06] <Bashing-om> Codfection: 'buntu will be happy for a long time on 30 Gigs .. Less if you expect less .
[23:06] <zeny> Codfection: such as?
[23:06] <Codfection> Word web, zeny
[23:07] <Codfection> Bashing-om, yea exactly
[23:07] <zeny> Codfection: I'm not sure if I know what is that, but can't you only deal with libreoffice?
[23:07] <k1l> Codfection: there might be linux-native alternative apps that can do the exact same workflow.
[23:08] <Codfection> zeny, word web is a dictionary with detailed theasis
[23:08] <OerHeks> Unless you play flappybird, there are tons of alternatives on linux.
[23:08] <Prof_Elm> I can't seem to get ubuntu to load on a surface pro 3 after installing arch
[23:08] <k1l> Codfection: but if you tie yourself to "i want exact that program" and they dont ship a linux version, we cant do anything about that.
[23:08] <Codfection> k1l, how about for installing softwares. I dont wanna search for everytime on google just to install a simple app
[23:09] <k1l> Codfection: use the software center or use "apt" on the terminal. ubuntu got software repos that ship thousands of programs already made working with ubuntu.
[23:10] <zeny> Codfection: did you try any of these? http://alternativeto.net/software/wordweb/?platform=linux
[23:10] <Prof_Birch> Is there a problem with ubuntu 16.04 and UEFI
[23:10] <Codfection> software center is buggy and it always stuck on installation (i used it on ubuntu 16.04)
[23:10] <k1l> Codfection: you can load a live-usb or live-dvd version. that will not change anything on your disk but gives you a working OS. there you can test out things.
[23:10] <xangua> Codfection: you keep saying you want to switch to Ubuntu/Linux for unknown reasons to you and you keep also repeating how you need x or u exclusive Windows program, so what exactly do you expect us to tell you after you answered your own question?
[23:11] <zeny> k1l: thats actually a very nice idea Codfection
[23:11] <k1l> Prof_Birch: that tablets need special treatment due to using a crappy 32bit uefi.
[23:11] <zeny> xangua: thats a nice question afterall
[23:11] <Codfection> xangua, dont be rude please. I wanna learn thats why I am here
[23:12] <Prof_Birch> kil: I have installed ubuntu before, and it just worked. But after a few back and fourths between Arch and Windows it seems like the bootloader won't properly install anymore. Is there a way to install Ubuntu with Systemd-boot?
[23:12] <zeny> Codfection: did you try the other apps, like http://alternativeto.net/software/wordweb/?platform=linux ??
[23:13] <Codfection> actually k1l and zeny, I can use ubuntu entirely for my work without being dependent on the eco system I was used to on windows right?