[22:36] <catcher> ActionParsnip, alt-f2 doesn't do anything for me, but I'm assuming it's similar to running them from the terminal?
[22:37] <bazhang> is there a way to test for mount
[22:37] <catcher> jrib, do separate profiles run under separate parent processes?
[22:37] <bazhang> Lolnerb, hi
[22:37] <Chuck_Norris> ChTiPowA: a video edito maybe could help you
[22:37] <jrib> catcher: I am not sure
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> catcher: its the default launcher in all DEs
[22:37] <bazhang> !ask | Lolnerb
[22:38] <ChTiPowA> Chuck_Norris: well i tested all i've found on depot but nothing can do what i need to. Openshot, Kino, Lives can't remove audio noise...
[22:38] <andai> does anyone know if ubuntu can connect to a windows-hosted ad-hoc wifi network?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> andai: sure
[22:38] <proc_> ChTiPowA Best video editor is Kdenlive
[22:38] <Chuck_Norris> ChTiPowA: for example, OpenShot, Kdenlive, Pitivi, Cinelerra, so on
[22:38] <andai> ActionParsnip: Sweet :D
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> proc_: in your opinion ;)
[22:38] <Chuck_Norris> oh! remove audio noise or remove the complete audio?
[22:38] <ChTiPowA> Chuck_Norris: Pitivi tried it too but there is no audio plugins. Cinelerra is not on depot and Kdenlive i don't know if its good to install KDE stuff on Gnome
[22:38] <Chuck_Norris> audio track*
[22:39] <proc_> ChTiPowA and if there is anything you need to know about ffmpeg and Webm I can help out. Code for ffmpeg at times
[22:39] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: I can't confirm these instructions myself other than to say that they seem sound, and if they work there is definitely no transcoding of video involved: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe7uuXK8dk
[22:40] <esuave> how can i upgrade my ubuntu 10.04.3 to 10.04.4 server?
[22:40] <fishbait> okay how do i connecto to a samba share \\<IP_ADDRESS>\public?
[22:40] <esuave> is there a simple command to do this?
[22:40] <jrib> esuave: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  (you just run normal updates...)
[22:40] <jrib> esuave: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  (you just run normal updates...)
[22:41] <esuave> ok cool thanks
[22:41] <fishbait> okay how do i connect to a samba share \\<IP_ADDRESS>\public?
[22:41] <ChTiPowA> proc my real concern is i need to modify a Lossless webM made with Kazam Screencaster to reduce audio noises. But i've found no editor so far to do it. So i edited with Audacity which can export back to .WAVE for example but when i wan to put the .WAVE file back again on the original video, then for encoding i got everytimes crappy result maybe because i'm noob on encoding i don't know... but this is frustrating as my original video looks almost perfect.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: press ALT+F2 and run: \\<IP_ADDRESS>\public
[22:41] <andai> so i haven't used ubuntu in a few years... any major changes i should know about? Is unity the default interface now?
[22:41] <jrib> andai: yes, check release notes I guess
[22:41] <jrib> !notes | andai
[22:42] <proc_> webm uses VP8, vorbis and the webm container. Its not just a quick ffmpeg -i input.mpg -codec:v copy -codec:a copy output.webm. You can do a perfect 1080p webm encoding like this though ffmpeg -y -i input.mp4 -threads 4 -f webm -s hd720 -aspect 4:3 -vcodec libvpx -g 120 -level 215 -pass 2 -profile 1 -sameq -vb 4M -acodec libvorbis -aq 50 output.webm
[22:42] <andai> jrib: I mean if something had changed more than one release ago it probably wouldn't be in there
[22:42] <jrib> andai: release notes exist for every release :)
[22:43] <andai> ...what's a pangolin...
[22:43] <Lolnerb> it's a drag to kill them all when only 1 needs
[22:43] <andai> and i thought the OS X cats were silly :D
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> andai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> andai: too hard?
[22:44] <andai> The name, pangolin, comes from the Malay word, pengguling, meaning "something that rolls up".
[22:44] <fishbait> hmm no luck
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: can you ping the server?
[22:45] <andai> ActionParsnip: I guess i was just wondering how naming Ubuntu releases after weird animals is going to make it more approachable to a genenal audience :D
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> andai: check the name of the next release :)
[22:45] <fishbait> yeah its a dd-wrt router running a samba NAS
[22:46] <ChTiPowA> is there anyway proc to take my .WAVE File to replace in index 0 directly and to finalize encoding ?
[22:46] <andai> oh... it's.. alphabetic
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> andai: indee
[22:46] <andai> how did i not see that o___o
[22:46] <Lolnerb> i see
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: if you run:  smbtree do you see the share?
[22:46] <bazhang> Lolnerb, see what
[22:46] <jrib> andai: it's only alphabetic starting at dapper :)
[22:46] <bazhang> !who | Lolnerb
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> jrib: true, hoary is a little before it's  time. boom-boom
[22:47] <andai> man, i remember dapper... has it been that long? wow
[22:47] <fishbait> i typed smbtree into xterm and it just did nothing
[22:47] <Chuck_Norris> i remember lucid =P
[22:47] <andai> are we gonna start inventing letters in a few years? :D
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: did you hit enter?
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> i meant Intrepid Ibex thats the ditro which i begin :D
[22:48] <deepspeed> Chuck_Norris, I'm running a lucid based distro.  Love it.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Gutsy here
[22:48] <Chuck_Norris> deepspeed: cool
[22:48] <fishbait> yes enter then my password and it just retutned as if it was ready for my next command
[22:48] <Lolnerb> Chuck_Norris : try asking in #libav
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: did it not ask for a password?
[22:49] <fishbait> it did ask for password and i provided it
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:49] <fishbait> hang on
[22:50] <fishbait> precise
[22:50] <proc_> Linux zion 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 17:49:08 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid
[22:51] <Tricarico> :)
[22:51] <fishbait> ls_release -sc returned "precise"
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: if you use nautilus and click 'network' do you see h
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> see the host in the list
[22:52] <Chuck_Norris> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/724/yeahil.png
[22:53] <bazhang> Chuck_Norris, wrong place to paste that
[22:53] <Chuck_Norris> sry -.- =P
[22:53] <Jordan_U> proc_: ChTiPowA already has a webm file, they need to replace the audio track in that webm file without transcoding the video.
[22:53] <fishbait> opening windows network
[22:54] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: The video tutorial you given to me works :) Thanks very much :D
[22:55] <fishbait> unable to mount location failed to retrieve share list from server.
[22:55] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: please last question : Do you know to create .SH Script ? I would like to re-use the same syntax forever and call a .SH to do the job.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: You're welcome. You might want to be sure that the audio track actually was transcoded to vorbis though because 1: I'm not sure that WAV should really be used in webm and 2: WAV files are huge, transcoding to vorbis would save space without noticeable loss of quality.
[22:57] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: Yes i have exported to OGG Quality 10 and imported back to the video and it works fine :)
[22:59] <proc_> Jordan_U easy, Just do this ffmpeg -i input.webm -codec:v copy -an output.webm. That will get rid of your sound. Now you need to encode your new sound and drop it in like this. ffmpeg -i input.webm -codec:v copy -acodec libvorbis -aq 50 output.webm output.webm.
[22:59] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: now i'd like to re-use same command forever but by calling 2 variables like conv.sh file1 file2
[23:00] <ChTiPowA> proc_ this is done by this video tutorial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe7uuXK8dk i've tried it and it works ^^
[23:00] <proc_> Jordan_U you are not re encoding your video. You are first stripping out the audio with -an . The you are encoding the sound using vorbis.
[23:00] <Seatheely> hi
[23:00] <Lolnerb> hi anybody know of any good leads on a windows only game
[23:01] <Tricarico> :)
[23:01] <proc_> Jordan_U watching
[23:01] <faryshta> How can I print the screen on Ubuntu?
[23:01] <fishbait> i click browse network click windows network opeing windows netowrk then unable to mount location failed to retrieve share list from server.
[23:02] <BlueEagle> !screenshot
[23:02] <bazhang> !ot | Lolnerb
[23:02] <arooni-mobile> trying to install plexydesk on ubuntu 12.04 (64bit) getting these errors:  https://gist.github.com/c8e77bf56fda890f49e3 ... or is there another widget platform (other than screenlets)?
[23:02] <BlueEagle> faryshta: There's this handy button labled "PrtScr" which is short for "Print screen". :)
[23:02] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: This is a very good guide for learning bash http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[23:02] <ChTiPowA> hahaha Jordan_U omg i have succeeded ^^ Well thanks very much proc_  and you for assisting me :D I have what i need :D
[23:02] <kion> How do I uninstall the Ubuntu distro Nvidia drivers to install the latest found in Nvidia's page?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: Please pastebin the script you created so that I can check for common pitfalls (like failing to use quotes around variables).
[23:03] <Chuck_Norris> kion: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:04] <faryshta> BlueEagle, pressed it, nothing happens.
[23:04] <Chuck_Norris> if you already have the proprietary driver install it, if not: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[23:05] <zubin> how to clone kernel source tree in linux mint12?
[23:05] <BlueEagle> faryshta: Are you on a laptop?
[23:05] <faryshta> BlueEagle, no.
[23:05] <proc_> ChTiPowA Not sure what we did but I am glad it works. I have a video how to use ffmpeg for Ubuntu on Youtube www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IDV6r-bCI  this is a script I wrote that will work with both Debian and newest Ubuntu http://pastebin.com/NHXrsBxm
[23:05] <xangua> !!mint | zubin
[23:05] <wylde_> kion: just be aware that everytime you update the kernel you will have to manually reinstall those drivers.
[23:05] <onryo>  /msg NickServ identify d34th
[23:06] <BlueEagle> onryo: You want to change that password I guess.
[23:06] <kion> wylde_: is there a repository with the latest drivers?
[23:06] <wylde_> onryo: time for a password change.
[23:06] <bazhang> onryo, time to change passwords
[23:06] <onryo> BlueEagle was the wrong one
[23:07] <BlueEagle> onryo: Was I the wrong one?
[23:07] <wylde_> Kion: Chuck_Norris posted above, although I'm not sure those are any different from the nvidia.com ones.
[23:07] <fishbait> i click browse network click windows network opening windows netowrk then unable to mount location failed to retrieve share list from server.
[23:07] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: hahaha wonderfull it works fine, awesome :)
[23:07] <Tricarico> :)
[23:07] <faryshta> How can I print the screen on Ubuntu?
[23:08] <bazhang> faryshta, print screen button
[23:08] <Chuck_Norris> kion: and this PPA has 295.59 driver version: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/nvidia
[23:08] <faryshta> bazhang, doesn't do anything when I click it.
[23:08] <BlueEagle> faryshta: Is there anything showing up in your logs when you press it?
[23:09] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/xFt7YZDe Here you are, checkout, very easy :P
[23:09] <Jordan_U> onryo: Just a small nitpick, "License for this script is copyleft." legally means nothing. You probably want to license it under the GPL version 2 or 3 following http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html
[23:09] <BlueEagle> faryshta: ...and are you using anything other than Gnome?
[23:10] <ki4ro> faryshta: Try screenshot
[23:10] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: That script will fail if either of the input filenames contain spaces. Here is a fixed version: http://pastebin.com/2U4qAVQP
[23:11] <ChTiPowA> hehe Jordan_U ok you have added " "
[23:11] <faryshta> BlueEagle, I am using xfce
[23:11] <arooni-mobile> trying to install plexydesk on ubuntu 12.04 (64bit) getting these errors:  https://gist.github.com/c8e77bf56fda890f49e3 ... or is there another widget platform (other than screenlets)?
[23:11] <onryo> Jordan_U was just some old junk I tossed up. But yeah your right. Its would have to be LGPL due to the fact that ppl might link all sorts of blobs and stuff to it. Since its just interpreted bash and awk though I am not even sure I can put a license on it. Anybody can do what they want with it. Lets just give it a BSD license then =)
[23:11] <faryshta> ki4ro, what is that?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: Correct. And I still recommend http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CommandsAndArguments above any other bash guides. There are a *lot* of bad bash guides out there.
[23:12] <ChTiPowA> Well its unbelievable Jordan_U you solved my hardest problem i'm trying to do since quite while ago.
[23:13] <bazhang> !info scrot
[23:13] <ki4ro> faryshta: A utility that comes with the system.  I tried it, saved the output to my desktop and then opened that with shotwell photo viewer and sent it to my printer
[23:13] <bazhang> faryshta, scrot
[23:13] <ki4ro> faryshta: Worked like a champ
[23:13] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: For my learning i would need French guide, in fact to succeed i use my old knowledges of MS-DOS, instead of $1 its %1 and in Basic its $A :)
[23:14] <fishbait> i click browse network click windows network opening windows netowrk then unable to mount location failed to retrieve share list from server.
[23:14] <onryo> Jordan_U there is an awesome # here on freenode for bash. Now I only code POSIX. That script is a awful mess but works darn good =)
[23:14] <killown> how can I deal with this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/973610 since I need install ubuntu 12.04 and nouveau driver don't let me do that
[23:14] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: but i assume you are not French :P
[23:14] <faryshta> bazhang, what?
[23:14] <faryshta> ki4ro, I will try.
[23:14] <ki4ro> faryshta: Good luck
[23:15] <bazhang> !info scrot | faryshta
[23:15] <faryshta> ki4ro, screenshot wasn't found on the repos.
[23:15] <onryo> I am now a Debian deb sent here to spy on you Ubuntu users =P
[23:15] <Lolnerb> onryo =p
[23:15] <ki4ro> faryshta: I found it under dash
[23:17] <ChTiPowA> Jordan_U: to finalize that victory i will try now to upload the video sample before to confirm that works fine :)
[23:17] <onryo> Jordan_U oh by the way the video I put up on Youtube is one of the few 1080p webm video there. You dont need flash to watch it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IDV6r-bCI
[23:18] <killown> anyone?
[23:19] <kion>  Chuck_Norris:will that get me allways the latest one?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> killown: is it ok in Unity2D?
[23:19] <killown> ActionParsnip, I am installing ubuntu
[23:19] <killown> ubuntu load noveau driver by default
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> killown: tried blacklisting the nouveau driver ?
[23:20] <killown> ActionParsnip, this is a installation
[23:20] <killown> if I blacklist it, I need to reboot
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> killown: yes, you can do it with boot options
[23:20] <killown> f7 and f8 doesn't work for me
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> killown: hold shift at boot
[23:20] <killown> ok
[23:21] <killown> and what option I should use after that?
[23:21] <killown> drm_kms_helper.poll=0 ?
[23:21] <killown> the screen freezes, mouse stop to work and I can't kill lightdm
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> killown: nouveau.blacklist=1
[23:22] <killown> ActionParsnip, thank you, I will try that one
[23:22] <killown> gotta go
[23:23] <Relondo> So, I donwnloaded Super Meat Boy from the Humble Bundle, but when I go to launch it, the screen flashes a lot, and then it displays with a triple-image, and the colors are messed up. Help?
[23:24] <Relondo> (I think it may be a driver problem, but when I go to launch the driver updater, I get an error message pointing me to /var/log/jockey.log)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: do you have 3D accelleration?
[23:24] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: I can't seem to download the driver.
[23:24] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: So I guess my real problem is the driver. I know why SMB doesn't work.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: how is smb relatd to a game?
[23:26] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: SMB = Super Meat Boy.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[23:26] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: What else does SMB mean?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: do you have 3D effects in your desktop?
[23:26] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: That's an excellent question. How do I find out?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: Server Message Block, used in Samba
[23:27] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Ah.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: if you run:  ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep     is there any output?
[23:28] <sirriffsalot>  #ardour
[23:28] <sirriffsalot> ...:P
[23:28] <Relondo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038148/
[23:28] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038148/
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: yeah, try logging off then log in to Unity2D session
[23:29] <Relondo> actionparsnip: How do I do that?
[23:30] <andai> are all the humble games linux native?
[23:30] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Also, I'm assuming that won't fix the graphics driver issue?
[23:30] <Relondo> andai: Yes.
[23:30] <WillPittenger> I switched to the Gnome Classic desktop manager (using gnome-common and gnome-shell) as I hate Unity.  However, I have two questions.  First, can I safely uninstall any of Unity?  Second, I don't see any Gnome configuration options.  Either they weren't installed or shortcuts weren't added to the menus.  What is going on?  It looks like the gnome and gnome-core packages add a lot of stuff I...
[23:30] <WillPittenger> ...don't need.  Those include browsers CD burners and more.
[23:30] <andai> :D
[23:31] <willdo> Could anyone help me with an install? This is my first day on Ubuntu!
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: it will take compiz out of the equation, it may be causing the issue
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> andai: some of the games run via wine etc
[23:32] <mel> hi room
[23:32] <Relondo> actionparsnip: I had  thought they were all Linux native :/
[23:32] <Relondo> actionparsnip: (Obviously).
[23:32] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Anyway, how do I restart in Unity2D?
[23:32] <wylde_> willdo: go ahead and ask the channel the question. Anyone who can help will reply :)
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: omgubuntu has a few disgruntled users about the fact its not native
[23:33] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Ah.
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: log off, click the cog and select 2D then log in
[23:33] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Okay, thanks.
[23:33] <wylde_> cog=ubuntu logo
[23:34] <stfollower11> the windows installer, wubi, is not available to download and burn to cd?
[23:34] <wylde_> !wubi
[23:35] <willdo> When installing from a tar.gz, what do you do past extraction? The program in question is Slicer and can be found here: http://download.slicer.org/. I have tried *pathetically* to build/make and also just to run what seemed to be an executable in the root of the file after extraction. How should I proceed with the install?
[23:35] <wylde_> !compile | willdo
[23:36] <willdo> Thanks! I'll try that now!
[23:37] <wylde_> willdo: just take your time, it's great learning experience learnig to compile from source :)
[23:37] <wylde_> learning*
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> willdo: is the archive full of source code?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> willdo: is there no PPA, or is it not in the repos?
[23:39] <wylde_> !find slicer
[23:39] <willdo> checking...
[23:41] <wylde_> willdo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/slicer?
[23:41] <willdo> wylde: unfortuneately that is the old version. They're on 4.1
[23:42] <wylde_> willdo: yeah I saw that, it also has no packages for precise
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> willdo: what is in the new version you need so bad?
[23:43] <willdo> The techniques have been refined.
[23:43] <willdo> Image processing*
[23:44] <zizoo> Is there a tool I can use for Ubuntu to download a website and all linked pages and files to a certain depth, or something like that?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> willdo: I suggest you report a bug, or contact the science team in the link wylde_ gave
[23:45] <Chuck_Norris> zizoo: httrack and his GUI webhttrack
[23:45] <zizoo> Or all local files and pages, or all the ones whose URLs match a certain regex?
[23:45] <zizoo> Oh, thx, will look at that.
[23:45] <Chuck_Norris> and its* GUI...
[23:47] <willdo> ActionParnsip: I'll be sure to contact them. In the meantime should I attempt to compile it?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> zizoo: wget should be able to do that
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> willdo: you could I guess
[23:48] <wylde_> zizoo:  curl maybe useful too
[23:48] <Wulfyuk> seems theres a bug with a internal built in webcam and a usb (also internal) wifi card if the camera is accessed all networking is lost... is there anyway to prevent the camera killing the wifi?
[23:48] <wylde_> may be*
[23:50] <Chuck_Norris> Wulfyuk: what is your wifi card?
[23:50] <Wulfyuk> now your asking lol can you refresh my memory on the command?
[23:51] <Yankees52> is pentium 3 1.3Ghz 512MB ram geforce 2 mx 400 good for unity?
[23:51] <zizoo> Ooh, thank you both also, ActionParsnip, wylde_.
[23:51] <Chuck_Norris> Wulfyuk: lscpi
[23:52] <zizoo> I'll have to check wget's man page. I've never really learned all its features.....
[23:52] <bairui> hi, guys. on arch I'd use the AUR to download and build stuff that wasn't in the main repos. I want to install   rhyme   (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhyme/0.9-6)   . How do I proceed in ubuntu?
[23:52] <Yankees52> is pentium 3 1.3Ghz 512MB ram geforce 2 mx 400 good for unity?
[23:53] <wylde_> !info rhyme
[23:53] <bairui> which is why i'm asking here :)
[23:53] <Wulfyuk> sorry Chuck_Norris thats not listing the wireless card
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Yankees52: should be ok, might want to use Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:53] <Chuck_Norris> Wulfyuk: lsusb
[23:54] <wylde_> bairui: just checking :)
[23:54] <bairui> fair
[23:54] <wylde_> !compile | bairui
[23:54] <bairui> awesome, thanks
[23:54] <bairui> !checkinstall
[23:55] <Wulfyuk> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187B Wireless Adapter
[23:55] <wylde_> bairui: there's also 'sudo apt-get build-dep' to help resolve depenedencies.
[23:55] <bairui> excellent. thanks.
[23:55] <Chuck_Norris> Wulfyuk: paste: lsmod
[23:55] <n2diy> Why does the guest account show up as the super user when you run the who command?
[23:55] <Smashcat> Anyone else found that "Movie Player" screws up when it tries to install codecs? Is there a better video player I can use?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: how do you mean 'super user'?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[23:56] <Wulfyuk> Chuck_Norris, http://pastebin.com/mnLsP93n
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: all players use a central store of codecs, so one player isn't better than another in that sense
[23:56] <zykotick9> Smashcat: vlc or the best gnu/linux media player mplayer or both better alternatives
[23:56] <thomi> Does anyone know of a programmatic way to tell which kernel will be used on a system that's mounted on /mnt? I.e.- from a rescue system boot?
[23:56] <Smashcat> ActionParsnip: Nope - this is a new install. I'll do that - is there a better player in that repo?
[23:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i don't think vlc does...
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: once you install the package, all players will be able to play the video equally
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: sucks to be vlc :)
[23:57] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: agreed ;)
[23:57] <Smashcat> ActionParsnip: Must be the installer that Movie Player uses then that's bugged. I'll try a different one
[23:57] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, I installed Xubuntu on my landlord's computer, his name is max, his log in name is max, and the computer name is max. I just discovered is niece on the computer, so I SSHed into it, ran "who", and it showed max is being log on.
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: gnome-mplayer and vlc will also pull a few extra codecs in and you'l be able to play most anything
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: thats fine, that's not the guest account...
[23:58] <Chuck_Norris> Wulfyuk: sry gtg
[23:59] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, that's what I thought, so I changed his password. But I physically checked the computer, and terminal is showing guest@max!?


[02:44] <Sergi0> any comment on ifolder? on ubuntu or edubuntu? just read some stuff about it, could be interesting
[02:45] <Burgundavia> Sergi0: it needs few different packages and until recently was not completely free
[02:45] <Burgundavia> Sergi0: I would expect some movement for dapper
[02:45] <Burgundavia> +1
[02:46] <Sergi0> Burgundavia: are u using it? or test something with it? can i even try to build it or is that just a waist of time?
[02:48] <Burgundavia> Sergi0: thankfully iFolder has nothing to do with my waistline...
[02:48] <Burgundavia> :)
[02:48] <Burgundavia> it is buildable
[02:48] <Burgundavia> I think whiprush or tseng are the people to talk to
[02:48] <Sergi0> oh :)
[09:22] <Yagisan> ogra_ibook: around ?
[09:27] <Yagisan> G'day all
[09:27] <Yagisan> I need to bring up the GDM session options from a thin client
[09:27] <Yagisan> they only have a power button
[09:28] <Yagisan> and some users need CJK languages. When they log in, they only get english
[09:29] <Yagisan> it works fine from the server, but I'd rather not have people locally logging in
[09:30] <Yagisan> hmm, we use ldm don't we
[09:31] <Yagisan> is this going to break if I change from ldm to gdm ?
[09:37] <iGotNoTime> Wow very advanced question!
[09:38] <Yagisan> thanks iGotNoTime
[09:39] <iGotNoTime> I wish I could help, but since I can't I wish you the best of luck
[09:39] <Yagisan> It usesd to work fine, but since the upgrade to dapper, if I'm in an elish session, it won't type CJK
[09:39] <Yagisan> wow, I can't type
[09:40] <Yagisan> s/usesd/used s/elish/english
[10:40] <pygi> spacey: hey, around?
[10:44] <spacey> y
[10:45] <pygi> spacey: bah, because? :-)
[10:47] <pygi> I see ... no time, ok :)
[10:47] <pygi> will talk tommorow
[10:47] <spacey> ok
[10:47] <spacey> 12 utc r?
[10:48] <pygi> huh, that no fine :-/
[10:49] <spacey> there is a meeting right
[10:49] <spacey> ?
[10:49] <pygi> no, no meeting :P
[10:49] <pygi> don't you read mails? :)
[10:50] <spacey> uh
[10:50] <spacey> not today
[10:50] <pygi> it was yesterday :)
[10:50] <spacey> especially miss things if it changes everyday
[10:51] <pygi> jane Suggested tuesday, 13:00 UTC
[10:51] <pygi> but I can't attend so I proposed Wednesday, 13:00 UTC
[10:51] <pygi> anyway, just mail her if that's ok for u
[10:54] <pygi> spacey: still alive? :)
[11:04] <spacey> sort of
[11:04] <pygi> bah, enjoy then
[11:05] <spacey> i'll mail


 "Here's a draft of the Ubuntu..." <- Hey grayson-g, comments from my PoV:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f1bc6c680b0dfe4be92c14ffcbbcb935edec584e>)
[11:34] <Saviq> Uuuh?... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/74c25914edea0373385f917021425db41ea4ab74>)
[11:35] <Saviq> Since when doesn't Frame accept `--wayland-host` ¿?¿?
[11:35] <Saviq> It even shows it in `--help` 😕
[12:12]  * grayson-g[m] wonders why he built the diagnostic snap in the how-to
[12:13] <grayson-g[m]> > * <@grayson-g:matrix.org> wonders why he built the diagnostic snap in the how-to
[12:13] <grayson-g[m]> Coffee must’ve been strong
 "Since when doesn't Frame accept..." <- I wonder if this could have broken with #86 when we switched from `CommandLineOption` to `ConfigurationOption`
[14:26] <Saviq> That's a good clue
[15:10] <grayson-g[m]> > <@saviq:matrix.org> Hey grayson-g, comments from my PoV:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3e897bce26cdc2dc49bb67dc8750da9c2bb35b55>)
[15:10] <grayson-g[m]>  * Moving `frame-diagnostic` under the Canonical account in order to auto-connect would be more simplistic, but imo it would be nice to leave in connection details for clients who are less familiar with (or prone to forget, like myself) connecting interfaces.
[15:10] <grayson-g[m]> If the how-to is meant to show the process of creating a snap with diagnostic capability, they likely won't have the luxury of auto-connection.
[15:18]  * grayson-g[m] posted a file: (4KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VXtnWwPMIUqfMCnMUPKdHyMT/Ubuntu%20Frame%20Tutorial.html >
[15:18] <grayson-g[m]> Second draft, now with less tutorial language and more "colour" 🇬🇧
[15:32] <Saviq> > <@grayson-g:matrix.org> Moving `frame-diagnostic` under the Canonical account in order to auto-connect would be more simplistic, but imo it would be nice to leave in connection details for clients who are less familiar with (or prone to forget, like myself) connecting interfaces.
[15:32] <Saviq> >
[15:32] <Saviq> > If the how-to is meant to show the process of creating a snap with diagnostic capability, they likely won't have the luxury of auto-connection.
[15:32] <Saviq> Works for me
[16:57] <Saviq> G'night o/
[21:23] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2644](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2644): Improve Client class lifetime management


[05:22] <holstein> delt: i would disable or remove one card... it'll make things a lot easier
[05:22] <holstein> that SBlive mic input is no "better" than the other one, likely
[06:42] <delt> holstein: thanks :) but i
[06:42] <delt> holstein: thanks :) but i've figured it out... plus having two sound cards is very practical for some uses
[06:43] <delt> now i just need to figure out how to route the pcm from one app (ie. pianoteq) to the input of an app that's limited to using pulseaudio (ie. skype)
[06:44] <delt> see, i was just looking for a patch cable that would solve that problem easily (play through one card, sample from the other) ..... but i'm wondering, is there a "cleaner" way to do it?
[06:44] <delt> oh btw i use that old sb live mainly for the 15 pin midi connector, i have this old yamaha keyboard that i use.....
[06:49] <delt> anyway, looking to find either a) that patch cable i KNOW i had lying around here just recently, or b) my soldering iron so i can make another one..... can't find either and it's kind of aggravating :/
[06:50] <delt> ...so, while we're in the subject -- is there a way to feed the audio output of one alsa/jack program into the input of a program that uses pulseaudio?
[17:02] <holstein> delt: yes.. you can "feed" those.. routing in JACK
[17:12] <delt> holstein: but i don't see the pulseaudio apps in qjackctl... how do i do it?
[17:13] <holstein> delt: you wont
[17:13] <holstein> delt: *any* application is able to write for pulse audio, since pulse is open.. but, what you are going to have to do is use the pulse dbus
[17:13] <holstein> you wont see a particular applicaiton, but the pulse system where you can route pulse sources to jack
[17:14] <delt> ah, i see. but how do i do that?
[17:14] <holstein> delt: i can tell you how i do it
[17:14] <delt> pulseaudio uses alsa as a backend, right? (normally?)
[17:14] <holstein> delt: i open qjackctl, and look in the "misc" tab, anc make sure the "jack dbus" checkbox is checked to enable the pulse dbus
[17:15] <holstein> *then*, i start jack, and look in "connect" in qjackctl, and route what i want where i want
[17:17] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[17:17] <holstein> "In a typical installation scenario under Linux, the user configures ALSA to use a virtual device provided by PulseAudio. Thus, applications using ALSA will output sound to PulseAudio, which then uses ALSA itself to access the real sound card. PulseAudio also provides its own native interface to applications that want to support PulseAudio directly, as well as a legacy interface for ESD applications, making it suitable as a drop-in replacem
[17:17] <holstein> what do i do? i stop jack, and use whatever "normal" audio i want
[17:17] <holstein> i dont see *any* advantage to use jack all the time..
[17:17] <delt> ah, thanks for the pointers. i have a lot of reading to do :3
[17:18] <holstein> or, just load up a live CD, and test
[17:18] <holstein> running multiple audio devices is not trivial
[17:18] <holstein> the alsa labels can change between boot..
[17:19] <delt> yeah, that can be a pain :(
[17:20] <delt> the way i see it, pulseaudio is pretty much equivalent to the windows sound system
[17:20] <delt> (from a user's perspective)
[17:23] <delt> oh, i do have "jack dbus" checked normally
[17:24] <schuster> hello?
[17:24] <delt> hello
[17:24] <delt> hallo
[17:24] <delt> wie geht's?
[17:25] <holstein> delt: well, the windows stuff isnt open.. and you dont have a choice about using it or not..
[17:25] <schuster> first time here, where am i actually?
[17:25] <holstein> delt: the pulse dbus should be enabled by default
[17:25] <holstein> schuster: this is the ubuntustudio support channel.. IRC, on freenode..
[17:25] <delt> schuster: freenode #ubuntustudio channel
[17:25] <holstein> schuster: how can we help you?
[17:26] <schuster> well every thing works fine for me.
[17:27] <schuster> i just have a question about pulse audio, I donßt get it. What is it good for?
[17:27] <delt> great :D
[17:28] <holstein> schuster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio
[17:28] <delt> it's an audio API that's meant to be easy to use.
[17:28] <holstein> schuster: it provides an easy way for advanced audio features to be implemented
[17:29] <schuster> oh really, it seems to slow down my computer a little bit, is tjat possible?
[17:29] <schuster> that
[17:30] <delt> when programs are using pulseaudio?
[17:30] <delt> or just having the process running?
[17:31] <schuster> i guess all the time, it sucks cpu power as shown in top
[17:31] <holstein> schuster: not likely.. how are you determining that pulse is slowing down your machine?
[17:31] <holstein> schuster: how are you testing? with what applications runing what audio? and how?
[17:33] <schuster> it's just a question. i'm not sure its pulse audio. when i run jackd somtimes the computer freezes and pulse audio is indicated to use 70% of cpu power in top
[17:36] <delt> computer freezes?
[17:36] <schuster> i mean i can't even move the mouse anymore
[17:37] <delt> ouch.... something's wrong then :/
[17:38] <delt> is this a fresh install?
[17:38] <schuster> really? i have firefox running too. When i use ONLY jack and music software everything is fine
[17:38] <schuster> totally fresh install
[17:39] <holstein> schuster: why are you running firefox? i suggest, *not* testing with that, or flash audio
[17:40] <delt> holstein can probably help you much more than i can.
[17:40] <holstein> schuster: i would do this.. in the "misc" tab of qjackctl, you can disable the pulse to jack dbus.. you untick the checkbox for the jack dbus.. then, test jack
[17:40] <holstein> schuster: then, *if* you dont need both jack and pulse, dont use both jack and pulse
[17:40] <holstein> you can expect a higher CPU usage using pulse through jack.. that is not a realistic test for pulse audio
[17:41] <schuster> ok. i will try this
[17:42] <schuster> i thought pulse audio was the way to use jack and other audio apps together
[17:42] <holstein> schuster: no
[17:42] <holstein> schuster: pulse is *completely* seperate from jack
[17:42] <holstein> schuster: *any* application can write in jack or pulseaudio support
[17:42] <schuster> ok, so no firefox during a jack session. i can live with that
[17:43] <holstein> schuster: i didnt say that
[17:43] <holstein> schuster: i say, dont *test* with that
[17:43] <holstein> schuster: if you are using flash in firefox, thats version 11..
[17:43] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[17:43] <schuster> thank you very much. i will try it tomorrow
[17:44] <holstein> thats not a short-coming or issue with firefox, or linux. not a limitation at all.. adobe is welcome to release flash for linux.. and they did in the past, but now, only chrome gets current flash
[17:45] <holstein> *so* its not a realistic test of the audio subsystems to run older unsupported versions of flash
[17:45] <holstein> you can test with the chrome browser, or the chrome browsers flash version in chromium.. *or* , just isolate the pulse support from the jack support.. and if you dont need both, dont use both
[17:46] <schuster> hmm.. chromium was even worse when using jack. it crashed almost instantly.
[17:47] <holstein> schuster: chromium has *no* jack support.. so, it cant be using jack at all
[17:47] <holstein> schuster: if you mean, when using chromium, the pulse jack dbus crashed, we can troubleshoot that.. but, you need the *newer* version of flash, if you are going to test flash
[17:48] <holstein> schuster: is that what you are doing? flash media? through pulse through jack?
[17:48] <schuster> i understand you. i will try the different settings and see what happens. thank you for your advices. they are very helpfull
[17:49] <schuster> i use ubuntu studio to make music
[17:49] <schuster> i don really care for chromium and firefox. when i use them i simply stop jack
[17:50] <holstein> schuster: thats what i prefer.. i disable the dbus to get "better" jack performance
[17:50] <holstein> when i want "normal" desktop audio, i stop jack and use that.. but, i dont personally need pulse sources typyically in my jack setup
[17:50] <holstein> i used to use it for recording a skype session..
[17:51] <delt> yeah, skype only uses pulseaudio
[17:55] <schuster> ok. i really like ubuntu studio. we will use it at live performances. i'm doing all the preparations now. thank you all, it's time for dinner. bye bye
[17:56] <holstein> i try my best to computers off the stage ;)