[03:55] <Kleidersack_> cogeno: try to delete one file create a folder and place other files in this folder...
[03:55] <cogeno> No, I mean the reason I had to reinstall was because I made a typo in dd, overwriting my HD
[03:55] <gogeta> cogeno that can make all kinds of wearnedd
[03:56] <cogeno> I've got 111 files on iyt
[03:56] <cogeno> I'll try the folder thing, though
[03:58] <gogeta> cogeno lol at least you have a real issue that other buy made me wanna go burn down a ms server farm for letting such stupid users pick up a pc >:o
[03:58] <gogeta> guy
[03:59] <gogeta> cogeno i gotta admit im stumped on that
[04:01] <earthmeLon> Anybody know if gnump3d works nicely with the ps3?
[04:02] <gogeta> earthmeLon unsupported
[04:02] <gogeta> earthmeLon thats power pc
[04:02]  * Kleidersack gives gogeta a lighter
[04:02] <gogeta> !ps3
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <gogeta> earthmeLon your goona heave to search around the ps3 linux fouurms or irc
[04:04] <velasco-keltoi> hello guys
[04:04] <gogeta> :)
[04:05] <velasco-keltoi> does anyone know how to import an object file to python and use its functions??
[04:07] <jrib> velasco-keltoi: #python is a more appropriate channel for that question
[04:07] <cogeno> gogeta: what stupid problem
[04:08] <gogeta> +o thoreauputic_  oh no
[04:08] <velasco-keltoi> jrib: sorry... wrong channel
[04:08] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: only to edit the /topic :)
[04:08] <MrSteve> whoa..
[04:08] <gogeta> O:-)
[04:09] <MrSteve> this Ubuntu can do things.. Windows cannot
[04:09] <TangentBuntu> :P
[04:09] <thoreauputic_> gogeta: don't worry, I probably have the shortest ban list on freenode ;-)
[04:09] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ lol did you change that just to get that guy lol
[04:09] <Kleidersack> yes, only me, right thoreauputic_ ?
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: I didn't ban you :) I didn't even silence you ;)
[04:10] <cogeno> BTW, creating  a new folder appears to be working
[04:10] <gogeta> thoreauputic_ oh you should
[04:10] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: yes, tried to make a joke, sorry
[04:10] <danny> what's the shortcut to open a terminal?  my panels just disappeared when i logged in :[
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: no worries :)
[04:10] <Kleidersack> danny: alt+f2 and xterm?
[04:11] <cogeno> One nice thing about Linux: Don't have to worry about making copies of a shitload of files if I accidentally drag them a bit when adding items to my selection
[04:11] <danny> kleidersack: alt+f2 isn't doing anything :/
[04:11]  * Pelo has been pirating ubuntu , making copies and giving them away to ppl
[04:12] <ericrw> hello.  I'm trying to install Hardy into a chroot via debootstrap (from an existing system)...
[04:12] <RequinB4> PELO how could you
[04:13] <ericrw> and it keeps freezing on installing console-setup
[04:13] <ericrw> I've been installing all versions of debian and ubuntu via this method, until now..
[04:13] <Pelo> :-)
[04:13]  * IndyGunFreak thinks Pelo should be reported for pirating ubuntu
[04:13] <RequinB4> Pelo: by the way, where can I find a copy of the GPL thats embedded inside an ubuntu install
[04:14] <RequinB4> Yeah, they are cutting into canoical's profits on cd sales!
[04:14] <Pelo> RequinB4, it's probably on the cd , somewhere
[04:14] <Pelo> RequinB4, do a locate gpl on it
[04:14] <gogeta> Pelo pirate!! im calling the dcma police!!!
[04:14] <earthmeLon> Thanks.  I am using Mediatomb as a mediaserver to view movies on my ps3.  Here is an awesome tutorial for anybody interested http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/upnp_mediatomb_ps3_and_me
[04:15] <gogeta> llol
[04:15] <trinity93> heh
[04:15] <atlef> canonical should drm the iso's
[04:15] <RequinB4> Pelo - I'm afraid of the inevitable windows administrater at some cyber cafe trying to report me for giving away software
[04:16] <fbc> Could someone get me clue as to why this nautilus script does not execute? http://pastebin.ca/991554
[04:16] <gogeta> RequinB4 yea those ms police beating suck
[04:16] <trinity93> god for bid you try and sell one on ebay <giggle>
[04:16] <Pelo> RequinB4, I wouldn't be surprised
[04:16] <Bassoon> Is there a WINE package that is downloadable instead of accessed through the console?
[04:17] <gogeta> RequinB4 piratebay(ebay)
[04:17] <mshadle> has anyone here had any I/O issues with disks freezing in hardy/kernel 2.4.24-16-server?
[04:17] <gogeta> lol
[04:17] <gogeta> funny couse it has a dubble meaning
[04:17] <atlef> !wine-doors
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine-doors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <trinity93> i had a friend that sold stuff on a site called ebanned
[04:18] <gogeta> nice
[04:18] <atlef> Bassoon: see if wine-doors is what you are looking for
[04:18] <RequinB4> well, the gpl allows people to sell the product as a service for distrubuting/compiling so long as the source code is given freely, so I suppose you could just sell it for $0.01
[04:18] <Bassoon> Thanks, atlef.
[04:19] <gogeta> RequinB4 iv seen those ebay scamers selling linux disk befor
[04:19] <Joeseph> is there a way I can run ubuntu with just the kernel?
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> RequinB4: Open the Gnome help and type "gpl" in the search box - it's there under gpl manual
[04:19] <gogeta> RequinB4 and plenty of lame sites
[04:19] <RequinB4> I beleive that too
[04:19] <gogeta> Joeseph yes a minumal install using the alt disk
[04:19] <gogeta> Joeseph very basics
[04:19] <fbc> Joeseph, yeah I believe the server versionis about a stripped as it can get.
[04:19] <trinity93> i find it interesting though that the FSF says on there site that you only have to give the source to your customers is your selling software
[04:20] <trinity93> is/s/if
[04:20] <gogeta> fbc min even more so
[04:20] <RyanM> Mmmm, I've a question concerning HH - anyone got a sec? :\
[04:20] <saurabh> Amarnath: u from India???
[04:20] <fbc> gogeta, yeah, I forgot about that install
[04:20] <nethakz> from what i understand selling things for gpl you generally charge for the support or extra parts that aren't gpl'd
[04:20] <RequinB4> thoreauputic_: thanks much
[04:20] <fbc> gogeta, could you give me clue as to why this nautilus script does not execute? http://pastebin.ca/991554
[04:21] <RequinB4> If it ever happens, i can't wait to see the look on someone's face
[04:21] <trinity93> well you dont have to make the download avaliable to any one but a paying customer
[04:21] <gogeta> fbc never to gracefull with scripts
[04:21] <nethakz> trinity93, the thing is though, you open the source for one paying customer he can go around and change one small thing and make it available for frree.
[04:22] <gogeta> fbc you made it executable rite
[04:22] <trinity93> well yes
[04:22] <trinity93> hell he dosent even have to change anything
[04:22] <RequinB4> nethakz - easier said then done
[04:23] <RyanM> Has anyone run into garbled sound issues on Hardy Heron?
[04:23] <eduardo> !hardy | RyanM
[04:23] <ubotu> RyanM: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:23] <fbc> gogeta, yeah
[04:23] <Joeseph> gogeta: I just wanted to run a pure terminal once-   Xorg is crashing my system when I run some sort of gui.
[04:23] <RyanM> Ah
[04:23] <RyanM> My mistake, thanks.
[04:23] <eduardo> lol
[04:23] <eduardo> no prob
[04:24] <fyrmedic> How do I add screen resolutions to use without doing a complete dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:24] <gogeta> Joeseph if you can get to a prompt ctrl alt f1 just stop gdm
[04:24] <eduardo> fyrmedic: right click your desktop
[04:24] <RequinB4> nethakz - consider crossover, whose source is freely available on the net.  Most people who know enough to compile will probably a) not re-distribute in an effort to support the devs or b) just take what they need from teh source
[04:24] <gogeta> Joeseph you will be in text mode at ctrl alt f1
[04:24] <jnetfreshmex> hi i'm new here and had some questions about my dvd playback on ubuntu
[04:24] <eduardo> fyrmedic: ahh, no my bad nvm
[04:25] <fbc> gogeta, I styled it exactly after an existing script, so I don't see the problem... I setup the permissions exactly like the other scripts, etc.
[04:25] <fyrmedic> eduardo: no worries.
[04:25] <thoreauputic_> !ask| jnetfreshmex
[04:25] <Joeseph> thanks gogeta
[04:25] <ubotu> jnetfreshmex: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:25] <trinity93> i find the stock pkg with the wine tricks script will handel most things well
[04:25] <gogeta> fbc did yea try sh scropt.sh
[04:25] <jnetfreshmex> ok thanks sorry
[04:25] <fbc> gogeta, nope.. I'll try..
[04:26] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: no need - I just wanted you to know you can go ahead and ask :)
[04:26] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: that factoid probably needs a bit of editing actually ;)
[04:26] <jnetfreshmex> when i put a dvd in the playback is slow and fails immediately after that. i can't watch any movies on it.
[04:27] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: what player?
[04:27] <jnetfreshmex> totem
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> eh.. use VLC..
[04:27] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: have you tried any other
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc thats just manuly telling ash its a script
[04:28] <fbc> gogeta, it didn't work... hmm
[04:28] <trinity93> mplayer is much better
[04:28] <jnetfreshmex> no i haven't
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc eh worth a shot
[04:28] <jessid> Hello. I have been a happy Ubuntu user since at least 2 years. Now I realize that Ubuntu can be installed in a Xbox 360, but my question is: how useful is that? would I be able to read the original Xbox 360  dvds if i install ubuntu in that device????
[04:28] <atlef> trinity93: !best
[04:28] <RequinB4> !best | IRequinB4 would suggest VLC, but
[04:28] <ubotu> IRequinB4 would suggest VLC, but: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[04:28] <gogeta> fbc pretty shure you did ./ rite
[04:28] <atlef> !best
[04:28] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:28] <trinity93> yea VLC is fancy gui wise
[04:28] <trinity93> but mplayer is da bomb
[04:28]  * IndyGunFreak hates mplayer
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> jessid: Do you have a link that the 360 can have Linux installed on it? I haven't heard of it.
[04:29] <trinity93> it will play just about anything
[04:29] <fbc> gogeta,  no i can't because I'm right clicking on a file and selecting to run the script on it.
[04:29] <gogeta> < loves mplayer
[04:29] <gogeta> fbc lol
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> Even if it did, I'm sure you could "read" the discs just as you could read them in Linux or Windows now
[04:29] <trinity93> ibm 360?
[04:29] <Iced_Eagle> wouldn't be too useful I don't think
[04:29] <kelvin911> why some divx movies flick when playing in vlc or mplayer?
[04:29] <jessid> Iced_Eagle you can even watch videos of ho to install it in youtube
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> trinity93, vlc will play everything mplayer will
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak < wrong
[04:30] <Iced_Eagle> hm, cool I'll go check that out now. Thanks for the heads up
[04:30] <jnetfreshmex> so i would just pick one, say mplayer, and dl then install it?
[04:30] <kelvin911> those movies dont flick when i play them with vlc in windows
[04:30] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak vlc cant handel rmvb
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak mplayer can
[04:30] <gogeta> IndyGunFreak thats abought it thow
[04:30] <atlef> jnetfreshmex: use add/remove programs in the menu
[04:30] <kelvin911> why some divx movies flick when playing in vlc or mplayer in ubuntu
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> i've never had a need for rmvb
[04:30] <trinity93> mplayer will also play cue/bin files directly
[04:30] <gogeta> kelvin911 compiz can make it do that
[04:31] <jnetfreshmex> ok i'll try it
[04:31] <gogeta> kelvin911 enable direct rendering in mplayer or turn off compiz
[04:31] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:31] <Max_-> Since I installed CCSM and turned on most of the features, I can't anymore write words in the dictionnary item in one of my panels... when I click on it, it won't focus on it... like if it wasn't there.. but I can still use the middle button to paste in it.. I just can't press enter and get a definition... another thing is I can't anymore use my mouse wheel to change desktop using the desktop grid
[04:31] <Max_-> in the panel
[04:31] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, #sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:31] <Iced_Eagle> Hm wow, I haven't heard of that king kong shader hack in forever! Didn't realize anything ever came from that
[04:31] <trinity93> compz is a cluster f#%k
[04:32] <thoreauputic_> jnetfreshmex: it's also *just* possible the dma is not on for your cd/dvd drive ( unlikely since it is usually done automatically)
[04:32] <fyrmedic> SeaPhor; I was trying to avoid that. But if that is the only way, thank you.
[04:32] <ninjaslim> i need to reset the configuration for my wireless network, how would i do this
[04:32] <trinity93> useing it is rather unintuitive
[04:32] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, that is with the res only
[04:32] <SeaPhor> fyrmedic, the -phigh
[04:32] <trinity93> emeriald bits even more
[04:33] <fyrmedic> SeaPhor; oh cool thanks.
[04:33] <gogeta> ninjaslim if you mean the keychain you just delete it
[04:33] <kelvin911> gogeta: so it is compiz that is causing the flick?
[04:33] <thecno> what is the comand to join in another channer?
[04:34] <ninjaslim> gogeta: keychain no i mean configuration for my wireless internet one of the interfaces
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 yea mine did on anything not direct renderd
[04:34] <kelvin911> is there a way i can have compiz enabled and get good video?
[04:34] <RequinB4> thecyno /join #channell
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 yep
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 turn direct rendering on in mplayer
[04:34] <kelvin911> direct rendering?
[04:34] <kelvin911> what about in vlc?
[04:34] <gogeta> kelvin911 no idea
[04:34] <ihmSelbst> hi
[04:34] <thecno> n_n thanks you RequinB4
[04:34] <RequinB4> hello ihmSelbst
[04:34] <kelvin911> default setting in mplayer has direct rendering diabled?
[04:35] <ihmSelbst> omg.. 5:35 am :/
[04:35] <fluid> Anyone know of a program that'll copy your ipod music to your computer?
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 i see some hardware option in vlc as well
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 pref output
[04:35] <ihmSelbst> fluid, wine >;)
[04:35] <gogeta> kelvin911 and advanced you will see use hardware
[04:36] <fluid> Nah.  I'll pass.
[04:36] <RequinB4> fluid - Exaile will put the music into a playlist, but really all you have to do is copy the folder from the mounted dir
[04:36] <gogeta> kelvin911 video output module
[04:36] <ninjaslim> gogeta: keychain no i mean configuration for my wireless internet one of the interfaces
[04:36] <gogeta> ninjaslim: wouldent that be in network
[04:37] <craigbass1976> I've got a bash script I wrote a long time ago that shrinks images.  Must have been with fedora or cent though, since there's no such command in Ubuntu as convert.    I was hoping for something to rescue me.  I deleted all my mp3s.. so on the ipod, they'll be I0242.mp3 or such.
[04:38] <danny> so, i can NOT get these panels to come back :[
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim i would hope so
[04:38] <danny> alt+f2 won't open anything, i can't create a launcher or anything :/
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim have you trying doing to sudo
[04:38] <kelvin911> still flicking in mplayer
[04:38] <gogeta> ninjaslim it should write a new config
[04:39] <ninjaslim> gogeta: no i'm asking you if you know of that file, where would it be, i'm a gentoo user i'm asking for a freind, at least for use config files are placed in conf.d
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 how bought dubble buffer
[04:39] <kelvin911> why when i play the game in dosbox, the screensaver will be on?
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 also change your render to opengl
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 or opengl2
[04:39] <kelvin911> i have double buffering and direct rendering on
[04:39] <kelvin911> which video output is the best?
[04:39] <gogeta> kelvin911 gl2
[04:39] <kelvin911> openGL? direct? x11 ?
[04:40] <ninjaslim> gogeta: any ideas
[04:40] <thoreauputic_> danny: gnome-panel? Try diving into tty1 with ctrl+alt+F1, log in, and run "killall gnome-panel" , then see if they come back when you hit alt+F7
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 opengl
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 if its to slow then direct
[04:40] <danny> thoreaputic_ when I do that, it says no process killed
[04:40] <kelvin911> then why the default setting isnt on openGL?
[04:40] <gogeta> kelvin911 it can be slow on old systems
[04:40] <thoreauputic_> danny: are you sure alt+F2 does nothing? Sounds odd
[04:40] <n-iCe> how to remove a program completly?
[04:40] <n-iCe> apt-get remove program
[04:41] <n-iCe> and aptitude... ==
[04:41] <thoreauputic_> danny: what does "pidof gnome-panel" say ?
[04:41] <danny> thoreaputic_ doesn't do a thing, at least not that i can see.  for sure doesn't open terminal.  :/
[04:41] <ninjaslim> gogeta: any ideas
[04:41] <gogeta> kelvin911 thers a good direct one to i cant rember the na,e
[04:41] <thoreauputic_> danny: if there's a number, use " kill PID number"
[04:41] <gogeta> ninjaslim nope try it as su or do it wile the cards not activ
[04:41] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: why not "pkill gdm"?
[04:41] <danny> thoreaputic_ alright, gotta go to xserv or w/e to do that, can't open a dumb terminal :<
[04:41] <kelvin911> i try openGL2 still a bit flicking
[04:42] <kelvin911> maybe the movie is badly ripped
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: because that is unnecessary.
[04:42] <gogeta> kelvin911 could be
[04:42] <kelvin911> but it doesnt flick like this in windows
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: and won't work without sudo anyway
[04:42] <kelvin911> at least not this visble
[04:42] <thoreauputic_> Kleidersack: and is a bazooka solution
[04:42] <n-iCe> how to uninstall and remove a package?? from the terminal
[04:42] <gogeta> kelvin911 as i said thers another good direct mode xv i beleve
[04:42] <Shadow420> Kelvin what type of Video Card you have?
[04:42] <Kleidersack> thoreauputic_: sorry, I should read whole command :-(
[04:42] <kelvin911> i use xv b4
[04:43] <danny> thoreaputic_ can i PM you?
[04:43] <Shadow420> gogeta sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <thoreauputic_> danny: keep it in channel so others can help and maybe learn too
[04:43] <gogeta> ?
[04:43] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <Shadow420> n-iCe sudo apt-get remove packagename
[04:43] <gogeta> naa bad
[04:43] <danny> alright, well what do i type to get to xserv or whatever it is?
[04:43] <thoreauputic_> danny: did you try what I suggested? In a tty ?
[04:43] <gogeta> --purge remove
[04:44] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  there is a aptitude command, what's the difference?
[04:44] <Shadow420> Kelvin what type of Video Card you have?
[04:44] <danny> thoreauputic_ whats a tty? :x
[04:44] <thoreauputic_> danny: X runs on F7 usually - so alt+F7
[04:44] <thoreauputic_> danny: the black text mode you get with ctrl+alt+F1-6 :)
[04:44] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: there isn't a difference other than that aptitude supports more options and when started with no arguments it provices an interactive text-pased package manager interface
[04:44] <Shadow420> Kelvin911 what type of Video Card you have?
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 best way is use the eq the direct mode that lets you use it is the best
[04:45] <Starnestommy> *provides
[04:45] <danny> alt+f7 doesn't do anything, either
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 i think it was xv or the other one xvb or something
[04:45] <thoreauputic_> danny: tty = Teletype ( it's a hnagover from long ago when terminals were really teletypes)
[04:45] <thoreauputic_> danny: are you in the text mode?
[04:45] <Shadow420> danny ctrl-alt-f7
[04:45] <gogeta> kelvin911 if its still flikering i would say driver thing
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> danny: ctrl-alt-F1 or ( F2 etc)
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 or maybe some compiz tqeaking
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: not needed from a tty
[04:46] <n-iCe> I see Starnestommy  and how do I update a package?
[04:46] <kelvin911> compiz tweaking how?
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 do you have the compiz confige manager installed
[04:46] <kelvin911> yes
[04:46] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: in fact if you use alt+aroow you eventually get back to X - try it :)
[04:46] <gogeta> kelvin911 go to it and slect enable comiz for video
[04:47] <thoreauputic_> Shadow420: ctrl+alt+F* is only needed in X
[04:47] <kelvin911> where?
[04:47] <Shadow420> thoreauputic_ true
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 man i cant tell you now lol
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 been a wile
[04:47] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: it's the same command for installing one
[04:47] <gogeta> kelvin911 but i knoe its there
[04:47] <kelvin911> i am in compizConfig Settings manager
[04:48] <n-iCe> Starnestommy,  the thing is when I try to install again says 2 to be updated, and it isn't updating it
[04:48] <kelvin911> i can only find video playback option
[04:48] <kelvin911> and it is enabled
[04:48] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: you might need to run sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:48] <gogeta> kelvin911 that it
[04:48] <n-iCe> I did Starnestommy
[04:48] <gogeta> kelvin911 well then try turning it off then
[04:48] <WootOnLinux> quick question, i had recently installed ubuntu, and wired internet and wireless were working great! on my good streak.. i installed VMware and windows, and Xinetd,that worked fine, i rebooted, and my ethernet card and wireless card no longer work.
[04:48] <WootOnLinux> is there a way i can reinstall the network drivers?
[04:49] <jessid> Iced_Eagle http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/
[04:49] <thoreauputic_> danny: any further along?
[04:49] <RequinB4> !hardy
[04:49] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:49] <RequinB4> 4 days
[04:49] <MrSteve> what is LTS ?
[04:50] <RequinB4> !LTS
[04:50] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:50] <Max_-> long time support
[04:50] <gogeta> long tearm supportk
[04:50] <kelvin911> it still there
[04:50] <thoreauputic_> MrSteve: Long Term Support
[04:50] <Max_-> term doh
[04:50] <MrSteve> YAY
[04:50] <gogeta> kelvin911 sounds driver realted then
[04:50] <MrSteve> YAY Hoooray!
[04:50] <kelvin911> the little flick just like the framerate cant pick it up right sometimes
[04:50] <kelvin911> sound?
[04:50] <JohninLex> Hey Guys I have a small question:  What is pidgin???
[04:50] <thoreauputic_> JohninLex: Instant messaging client
[04:50] <gogeta> sound?
[04:51] <gogeta> i thought you ment a flicker
[04:51] <JohninLex> how do i get rid of it
[04:51] <gogeta> < falls off the world
[04:51] <Starnestommy> JohninLex: in a terminal, type sudo apt-get remove pidgin
[04:51] <thoreauputic_> JohninLex: uninstall it?
[04:51] <WootOnLinux> no one has any words of wisdom for me???
[04:51] <JohninLex> thank you for your help guys
[04:52] <gogeta> kelvin911 a sound flicker just enable the sound buffer
[04:52] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Unlikely that 're-installing drivers' will fix the problem.
[04:52] <kelvin911> not sound
[04:52] <kelvin911> its the video
[04:52] <kelvin911> where to enable sound buffer?
[04:52] <WootOnLinux> mutk: what i want to really know is why teh modules wer eturned off, they worked fine on an out of the box linux install
[04:52] <gogeta> kelvin911 in sound lol
[04:52] <WootOnLinux> mutk:  and im using ubuntu 7.10 btw
[04:52] <danny> got it workin
[04:53] <mutk> WootOnLinux, What makes you think they have been 'turned off' ?
[04:53] <eduardo> WootOnLinux: try dhclient && aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[04:53] <WootOnLinux> um.. the wirless card that i was browsing the internet with like 2hrs ago no longer shows up?
[04:53] <WootOnLinux> and the ethernet card which connected to the internet, is now nowt connecting.
[04:54] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: is the nm-applet running ?
[04:54] <mutk> WootOnLinux, ifconfig  see what is up and what is not.
[04:54] <WootOnLinux> network monitor is there
[04:54] <jjt009> haylo
[04:54] <WootOnLinux> im fairly new to linux.. how do i run ifconfig command? sudo ifconfig?
[04:54] <jjt009> Woot: just ifconfig
[04:54] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Should be able to run it just like that - no sudo
[04:55] <Shadow420> I can't wait until hardy is released
[04:55] <jjt009> anybody know where i can go to talk about eclipse on ubuntu
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> mutk: ok I see.. eth0, eth0:avah and lo
[04:55] <jjt009> i'm experiencing some problems
[04:55] <n-iCe> The msgfmt command is required to build libpurple. , how can I install it???
[04:55] <jjt009> with the compiler
[04:55] <n-iCe> !msgfmt
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msgfmt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Does eth0 have an IP address?
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> so the ethernet card is being picked up..but for some reason its not connecting
[04:55] <Shadow420> !eclipse | jjt009
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <jburd> jjt009: Ask your question here.
[04:55] <zero-cool> how can i compile own kernel
[04:55] <WootOnLinux> i dont see an IP .. no
[04:55] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: one possible thing to try with network-manager              sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[04:55] <JohninLex> anyone in here know how to write a widget scrip???
[04:56] <jburd> What is a "widget scrip?"
[04:56] <WootOnLinux> Thorea: let me give it a shot
[04:56] <astro76> n-iCe: if you type a command in the terminal which you don't have, it will tell you how to install it
[04:56] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: that sometimes gets nm working again
[04:56] <kelvin911> could that be video driver issue?
[04:56] <jjt009> jburd: ok, i'm have some problem when running code String.contains in IBM compiler (eclipse)
[04:56] <kelvin911> are there many nvidia driver just like so many of them for windows?
[04:56] <zero-cool> i would like compile my kernel
[04:56] <jjt009> it works once in a while, but not always
[04:56] <jjt009> it's extremely strange
[04:56] <jjt009> anyone aware of this bug?>
[04:56] <JohninLex> it is a active desktop image, kida like a gilf
[04:56] <n-iCe> astro76,  that was true! didn't know it thank you!
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> I restarted it..i dont see a wireless card.. and eth0 isnt connecting
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> could xinetd have messed something up?
[04:57] <mutk> WootOnLinux, inet addr: NUMBER   is not there?
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: you haven't given it very long...
[04:57] <jburd> jjt009: You'll need to be more specific than that.   Paste a code sample, the steps you took to reproduce the bug, what you expect, and what occurs.  dpaste.com
[04:57] <mutk> WootOnLinux, xinetd has little to do with the network inerfaces.
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: Ubuntu doesn't use xinetd
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> i had to install it
[04:57] <WootOnLinux> for vmware
[04:57] <mutk> thoreauputic_, It is availavle as an option though
[04:57] <thoreauputic_> ah
[04:57] <jjt009> jburd: hold
[04:58] <thoreauputic_> mutk: sure
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> in my original question i said.. i installed VMware for windows
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and it did a whole lot of network bridging
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and shortly after that i think my internet stopped working
[04:58] <zero-cool> can somebody tell me i wanna compile my kernel on ubuntu
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> so im assuming that is the culprit. and no the NM restart didnt work.
[04:58] <astro76> !kernel | zero-cool
[04:58] <ubotu> zero-cool: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[04:58] <WootOnLinux> and there is no INternet Adr: # after eth 0.
[04:58] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: ah I see - hmm, don't know much about vmware, sorry
[04:59] <mutk> WootOnLinux, Check basics first then - make sure the cable is plugged in and you have link lite
[04:59] <gogeta> vmware woot
[04:59] <n-iCe> !GLib
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> cable is plugged in
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> im using 2 laptops
[04:59] <zero-cool>  know bu i wish teach
[04:59] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: I know that it sets up an annoying number of interfaces though ;)
[04:59] <napi> what do I need to change so a user can't get out of their home directory? Or if they can, that they can't read contents of any files on the system?
[04:59] <WootOnLinux> one to speak to u guys w/ and troubleshooting w/ the other
[04:59] <gogeta> WootOnLinux bridging doesent liek windows
[04:59] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: have you tried VirtualBox ?
[04:59] <gogeta> WootOnLinux use the other workik option
[04:59] <ClickClickBoom> Is it true that ubuntu is compiled with the -fail option on to maximize the failflood count?
[05:00] <gogeta> network
[05:00] <n-iCe> astro76, : You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[05:00] <n-iCe> I wrote GLib but didn't tell me how to install it any idea?
[05:00] <WootOnLinux> nah i havent tried virtual box, but i liked vmware! everything was runnig smoothly except net ;p
[05:00] <jjt009> jburd: ok http://pastebin.com/m25a10f31
[05:01] <n-iCe> How can I install this: You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: What are you building?
[05:01] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: VB just does NAT as far as I can see - works well with Linux but I don't use windows so I don't know how well it handles that
[05:01] <n-iCe> jburd,  pidgin
[05:01] <zero-cool> have anybody in in croatia
[05:01] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: is libglib2.0-dev installed?
[05:01] <jjt009> jburd: values are there; everything was kept constant and i received different outputs for variable "addresses"
[05:01] <kdubois> n-iCe: apt-cache search glib | grep dev
[05:01] <astro76> !info libglib2.0-0 | n-iCe
[05:01] <ubotu> n-ice: libglib2.0-0 (source: glib2.0): The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1272 kB
[05:01] <kelvin911> could that be the 50Hz refresh rate making the flick?
[05:01] <jjt009> !bomb
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bomb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin
[05:01] <kdubois> n-iCe: install what looks like what you need from that list....
[05:01] <jjt009> !jburd
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jburd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <jburd> n-iCe: That will install everything you need to build pidgin.
[05:01] <thoreauputic_> what's the country code for croatia?
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thorea:  i dno.. i see alot of ppl running VMware windows on linux.. it seems to be fine.. i wonder if i did somethign wrong.
[05:02] <n-iCe> :o
[05:02] <jburd> jjt009: One sec.
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> my only other option is to reinstall ubuntu
[05:02] <jjt009> jburd: np
[05:02] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: hint: type thore <tab>
[05:02] <n-iCe> thanks jburd
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_: ahhh nice
[05:02] <thoreauputic_> :)
[05:02] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_:  isnt there a way to force linux to recognize hardware??
[05:03] <ClickClickBoom> how come the distro ships with porn as the default background
[05:03] <mutk> WootOnLinux, VMware runs a service script at boot time on most Linuxes. Could stop that, and set it to NOT start at boot. Reboot the system and see if that has an effect. Although I don' think it should.
[05:03] <ouellettesr_> how can i make ubuntu viewable from a windows vista pc? they are both connected to a router.
[05:03] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: umm... it usually does unless it's not supported
[05:03] <kdubois> n-iCe: i didnt know you were using ubuntu, apt-get install pidgin-musictracker will do it
[05:03] <Starnestommy> ClickClickBoom: it doesn;t
[05:03] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: hello
[05:03] <jjt009> Starnestommy: yuo on gnome
[05:03] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom i whant porn
[05:03] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom yay
[05:03] <ouellettesr_> jjt009, hi
[05:03] <ClickClickBoom> oh but it does. naked people, with an ubuntu l;ogo in the corner
[05:03] <thoreauputic_> ClickClickBoom: no more or you are out of here
[05:03] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: how are things?
[05:04] <jjt009> jburd: ready?
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> jjt009, why do you ask?
[05:04] <gogeta> ClickClickBoom wow you made that op mad thats rare
[05:04] <Peng> Hardy final isn't out yet, right?
[05:04] <iandefor> Peng: not for a few more days
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> would someone put a leash on that bot??
[05:04] <jjt009> ouellettesr_: i have no idea
[05:04] <ouellettesr_> lol
[05:04] <ClickClickBoom> but lulz hasn't ensued yet!
[05:04] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_:  its just weird that it was fine when i first installd it, so i know hardware is supported...so frustrating
[05:04] <Peng> iandefor: Ok. Just making sure.
[05:04] <jburd> ouellettesr_: You use Samba or SSH.  You can mount Windows network shares as mount points on Linux using Samba.  You can access Linux volumes using Samba as well.   Places > Connect To Server...  > Choose "Windows share." and fill in the details.
[05:04] <jburd> jjt009: Yes, reading the paste now.
[05:04] <thoreauputic_> WootOnLinux: sounds like a vmware issue as you say
[05:04] <jjt009> jburd: thanks bro
[05:05] <iandefor> Peng: I think it's due on thursday
[05:05] <jjt009> thoreauputic_: how'd you get to admin status?
[05:05] <thoreauputic_> jjt009: I was asked
[05:05] <ClickClickBoom> you can't kick someone until the lulz happens!
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux change vmware from bridged to nat
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you will be fine
[05:05] <WootOnLinux> thoreauputic_  : gogeta, how will i do that?
[05:05] <jjt009> thoreauputic_: and who asked you?
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux power down the vm then in prefss
[05:05] <n-iCe> oh thanks
[05:05] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you will see network you can change it
[05:05] <Greenbox> hey, does anyone know a workaround for the bug that kills torrents in ubuntu 7.10?
[05:06] <WootOnLinux> ok.. let me take a look
[05:06] <Greenbox> *torrents over wireless
[05:06] <ouellettesr_> jburd, im trying to make a folder on my pc (ubuntu) show up under vista media center to watch movies, i dont think I can do that with samba can i?
[05:06] <jburd> jjt009: The code doesn't answer all my questions directly.  Though, I have a suggestion:  "if (comp.trim ().equals ("a") == false && comp.trim ().equals ("the") == false && comp.trim ().equals ("some") == false && comp.trim ().length () > 2)"   Why are you trimming the value of comp per comparison?
[05:06] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  i dont see any options??
[05:07] <gogeta> WootOnLinux there is
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> hmm..
[05:07] <mutk> thoreauputic_, That was odd. I must have auto ignore boofheads on. I was wondering why he was kicked.
[05:07] <gogeta> WootOnLinux on your vm itself
[05:07] <thoreauputic_> mutk: trolling, basically
[05:07] <jjt009> jburd: yeah, i guess i could set a string to comp.trim ()
[05:07] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Then scrolled up . I completely missed it..
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> ahh i c it.. k lets see if this changes anything
[05:07] <L_inf> How can I kill a process from the Terminal ??
[05:07] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  ur saying this will solve my linux problem?
[05:07] <jjt009> jburd: but that wouldn't solve the problem
[05:08] <jjt009> jburd: i'm thinking of just submitting this as a bug
[05:08] <jburd> ouellettesr_: An Ubuntu samba volume appears like just another Windows share to your Windows network.  If you can mount a Windows share, you can mount a Samba share.
[05:08] <jjt009> jburd: it's beyond understanding
[05:08] <magnus|msc> L_inf: kill <id>
[05:08] <gogeta> WootOnLinux change all those bridges issues yes
[05:08] <Starnestommy> L_inf: "kill pid"  where "pid" is the process's pid number
[05:08] <jburd> jjt009: You'll need to answer these questions specifically:  1.  Brief description of the problem.  2. How to reproduce it.  3.  What you expected.  4. What happened instead.
[05:08] <WootOnLinux> gogeta: ok i changed my vmware to nat.. no luck in linux tho...still cant connect to internet
[05:08]  * Agent_bob likes  killall something
[05:09] <gogeta> (Settings > Configuration Editor
[05:09] <mutk> thoreauputic_, Quite often the troll attempt is realy a method to ID who's an op.. I guess you realise that.
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> gogeta:  Btw linux is my main OS.. the VMWare is runnign windows.. dnt know if thats diff
[05:09] <gogeta> WootOnLinux now you need to remve the bridge in linux
[05:09] <underscore> quick question: rythmbox does not save the changes to song titles when I close it and reopen it. How do I fix this?
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> ahhh i c
[05:09] <thoreauputic_> mutk: it isn't a secret :)
[05:09] <WootOnLinux> how do i do that? god i feel so dumb lol
[05:09] <L_inf> Starnestommy: Where can I see the id number??
[05:09] <ritalin> hai2u guys
[05:09] <magnus|msc> is there a software which reduces the usable ram ???
[05:09] <thoreauputic_> mutk: just check the access list for the channel
[05:09] <gogeta> WootOnLinux i duno you set it up
[05:09] <Starnestommy> L_inf: look in System > Administration > System Monitor
[05:09] <underscore> For example, when I change a typo in a missnamed song, next time I start rhythmbox, the song is misnamed again
[05:09] <ritalin> how can i get my plugins to work on firefox 3?
[05:10] <WootOnLinux> ok where would i look for the bridge?
[05:10] <gogeta> WootOnLinux i would assume in network
[05:10] <WootOnLinux> i didnt actually set it up :P
[05:10] <ouellettesr_> jburd, ok, just to clarify, i need to setup samba on the ubuntu machine, or the vista machine? I am trying to share a folder on ubuntu for vista
[05:11] <jburd> ouellettesr_: On the Ubuntu machine.  System > Administration > Shared Folders.
[05:11] <ritalin> hey
[05:11] <L_inf> Is there a way of knowing the process id without the system monitor???
[05:11] <ritalin> i need some halp
[05:11] <ritalin> halp meh
[05:11] <jburd> L_inf: Yes, pgrep processname
[05:12] <ritalin> ff3 and plugins? out of luck or can they work?
[05:12] <jburd> You can view a process tree using pstree
[05:12] <thoreauputic_> L_inf: lots - pidof, pgrep, ps aux |grep process
[05:12] <WootOnLinux> i dont see any network bridges anywhere
[05:12] <gogeta> WootOnLinux might ned to reboot for vmware to remve the bridge controller as well
[05:12] <WootOnLinux> hmm ok
[05:12] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic_ L_inf pidof <name>
[05:13] <thoreauputic_> Agent_bob: well, yes
[05:13] <underscore> Rythmbox is not remembering changes to song titles. Anyone know how to fix this??
[05:13] <On3> editing /etc/fstab, how do i set it up if i have about 5 partitions with EXT3 formats?
[05:14] <Agent_bob> On3 man fstab    it's standard format for all fs types
[05:14] <yosef> not
[05:14] <On3> Agent_bob, im trying to install quota, do i need to set it up
[05:15] <jnetfreshmex> i added vlc and my movie plays much better than with totem but the playback is sketchy and stalls a lot. the dvd is new so no scratches.
[05:15] <yosef> how do reinstall extras in ubuntu?
[05:15] <Agent_bob> On3 actually i've never setup disk quatas so maybe you should consult someone else on that.
[05:15] <On3> Agent_bob, okay thanks :)
[05:16] <ouellettesr_> jburd, ok, found that, the folder doesnt seem to be showing up on vista, do I have to reboot?
[05:16] <Agent_bob> On3 for most fstab questions i can answer tho.   and your welcome.
[05:16] <jjt009> jburd: ok looks like i got it figured
[05:16] <yosef> Hello guys I am a new comer to linux world !
[05:16] <jjt009> jburd: thanks
[05:16] <jburd> ouellettesr_:  I don't use Windows much so I can't say.  Rebooting Windows may work (accidentally).
[05:16] <ouellettesr_> lol
[05:16] <jburd> jjt009: np
[05:17] <ouellettesr_> ill give it a try
[05:17] <gogeta> WootOnLinux still around lol
[05:18] <jnetfreshmex> my dvd playback is stalling. what can i do?
[05:18] <On3> Agent_bob, what about setting up proftpd? can u help with the set up of that?
[05:18] <tro> are there any tools to help build a .deb from a set of files?
[05:19] <Agent_bob> On3 maybe.   proftpd is pretty streight forward
[05:19] <gogeta> WootOnLinux you die on me lol
[05:20] <drivetrax> how to install tar.gz programs?
[05:20] <On3> Agent_bob, how would i make the default directory for uploads and downloads something like /downloads
[05:20] <guest___> ..
[05:20] <guest___> hello
[05:21] <guest___> i need some help ... http://images.torrentmove.com/show.php?id=66e7457680f9a765dbaf05a552b36a2d
[05:21] <Agent_bob> On3 install proftpd and edit /etc/proftpd   or what ever it's config is called anymore   and set the base (root) dir to /downloads/
[05:22] <guest___> i can't mount ntfs partition which installed windows
[05:22] <jburd> guest___: Reboot into Windows.  Run a full diskcheck on those volumes and then get back into Ubuntu.
[05:22] <gogeta> :-( where WootOnLinux go
[05:22] <jnetfreshmex> please help with my dvd playback! i removed totem and installed VLC. still no luck tho.
[05:22] <jburd> guest___: It appears you were using Windows when a power failure occurred.  Windows locks NTFS volumes in such a scenario.
[05:22] <xu> dg
[05:22] <Agent_bob> On3 alternatively you could edit the /etc/passwd and set the proftp user's home to /downloads/   should achieve the same end.
[05:23] <Shoopuf> I don't want to wait 3 days... I've been waiting forever! If I download the current RC will I have to download Ubuntu again in 3 days when it is released? :p
[05:23] <^rastamn^> clear
[05:23] <jburd> guest___: Rebooting into Windows, running a disk check and booting back into Ubuntu should fix it.
[05:23] <On3> Agent_bob, where it has commented out DefaultRoot ~
[05:23] <d-bos> no shoopuf.
[05:23] <guest___> jburd : i can't get into windows mode ... or even save mode
[05:23] <Agent_bob> On3 yeah
[05:23] <On3> Agent_bob, thanks
[05:23] <balleyn1> Shoopuf: nope, any changes will come through updates
[05:23] <guest___> i mean...windows must be corrupts
[05:24] <Shoopuf> Thanks, downloading now. :) Hope the sound works this time. :P
[05:24] <jburd> guest___: That's not news to me.  Windows does not read its own file system way too many times.  I've had to recover client data using Linux and ntfs-3g.
[05:24] <n-iCe> how can I install the musictracker to pidgin??
[05:24] <drivetrax> guest___:  did you format the windows while installing Linux?
[05:24] <jburd> guest___: You can force mount NTFS partitions though.  No guarantees there.
[05:24] <guest___> <drivetrax --- no sir
[05:25] <Shoopuf> n-iCe: type /join #pidgin ... They have their own IRC channel. :)
[05:25] <atlef> n-iCe: synaptic
[05:25] <gogeta> < beats windows with a imac
 --- i already force to mount that partition
[05:25] <drivetrax> mbr is messed
[05:25] <n-iCe> atlef,  what plugin I don't find it with that name
[05:25] <guest___> but it doesn't work
[05:25] <gogeta> drivetrax sueprgrub
[05:25] <jburd> guest___: When you try to load Windows, what error message do you see?
[05:25] <On3> Agent_bob, just about to say it didnt work! but, i noticed hey, i didnt restart proftpd :p
[05:26] <atlef> n-iCe: pidgin-musictracker
 some file system couldn't read
[05:26] <cirkit_> For some reason when I put my laptop in suspend / sleep and bring it back, I lose all sound. I don't get any messages about soundcard being in use, just nothing comes out and volume is all the way up, any ideas?
[05:26] <Agent_bob> On3 jinks.  the thought crossed my mind to remind you....
[05:26] <On3> Agent_bob, hehehe
[05:26] <hanophix33> my ibm t30's fan constantly runs and since has become very loud and grinding, any ideas?
[05:26] <jburd> guest___: Can you get the exact error message?
 when windows is starting ... it just reboot
[05:26] <gogeta> :'(
[05:27] <phynix> is there an hardy channel?
[05:27] <drivetrax> change any bios setting?
[05:27] <jburd> guest___: I'd suggest a better strategy for storing your personal data.  Don't store it in the same partition as the Windows installation.  Use a separate partition so even when you lose the OS, you can still recover data.
[05:27] <gogeta> !hardy
[05:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:27] <phynix> thanks
[05:27] <Aldenor> mmm
[05:27] <Aldenor> hi
[05:27] <Aldenor> please, i need a tip
 i'll reinstall windows then let you know again later
[05:27] <Agent_bob> oh hardy is not out yet ???   i've been away too long.
[05:27] <Aldenor> how can i uninstall the ubuntu
[05:27] <Aldenor> ?
[05:28] <gogeta> Aldenor vista is bad for you
[05:28] <jburd> guest___: read about restoring Grub back to the MBR before you do that.
[05:28] <Aldenor> no, i want to install kubuntu
[05:28] <Aldenor> windows sux xD
[05:28] <gogeta> !uninstall
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <gogeta> LOL
[05:28] <jburd> Aldenor: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Agent_bob> Aldenor delete it's partition/s and fix your MBR
--- i always do that, even my documents folder...i move to store in other drive
[05:29] <Agent_bob> Aldenor oh sorry.   lag.    thought you asked how to uninstall linux
[05:29] <gogeta> Agent_bob i blame the lag
[05:30] <On3> Agent_bob, now im lost
[05:30] <Agent_bob> On3 where are you ?
[05:30] <Agent_bob> lol
[05:30] <boselecta> i'm having terrible trouble with firefox locking up or something today. is this uncommon?
[05:30] <Aldenor> is right install the KDA destkop? or is better install all the kubuntu
[05:30] <Aldenor> :(
[05:30] <gogeta> Aldenor ok windows sucks why did you ask
[05:30] <jburd> Aldenor: KDE comes with kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <On3> Agent_bob, i set the base directory to my /web/ but when i connect it gives me a folder that isnt my home directory or /web/
[05:30] <gogeta> Aldenor same thing you will just have both
[05:31] <jburd> boselecta: Try running firefox from the terminal like this:    firefox-3.0 or firefox
[05:31] <gogeta> Aldenor kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:31] <On3> Agent_bob, i created a directory called /secure/ in it, how would i search for this directory now?
[05:31] <jburd> boselecta: note the diagnostics if any that appear at the term
[05:31] <Agent_bob> On3 find / -type d -name secure 2>/dev/null
[05:31] <boselecta> oh ok. it's running fine, and i'm listening to streaming radio. but like the screen isn't repainting properly.
[05:32] <boselecta> and it won't raise or get focus properly.
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, oh wait, its still going to my home directory...
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, okay so now... how would i create a new user (like FTP_USER) then add it to proftpd and when they connect it goes to /web/
[05:32] <On3> Agent_bob, i have the new user created but what about the proftpd bit?
[05:32] <anathematic> what's a good mp3 player on ubuntu? (looking for winamp like application)
[05:33] <atlef> !bmp
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <jburd> On3: Why are you using FTP?
[05:33] <atlef> !bpm
[05:33] <gogeta> anathematic:  xmms
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <anathematic> thanks gogeta
[05:33] <On3> jburd, cause i want to set up pretty much an ISP  webserver
[05:34] <jburd> On3: You realise that you may be opening up your network to exploits?
[05:34] <On3> jburd, except its more for training and educational purposes and will be taken down in about 2 - 3 hours once i get it installed then for actual use
[05:34] <Sturmeh> and that your isp may not allow such conduct
[05:34] <Agent_bob> On3 normally "anonymus"  is used for that.     useradd -d /web anonymus      or who ever...
[05:34] <Daisuke_Ido> anathematic, audacious
[05:35] <maestrotech> How do i form a command line syntax to send an application to my second monitor. (:1)
[05:35] <On3> Agent_bob, oh wait how do i delete a user?
[05:35] <Bubble_tea> Does anyone find awn working?
[05:35] <Agent_bob> On3 userdel blah
[05:35] <On3> Agent_bob im great at this whole ubuntu thing huh? :P
[05:35] <jburd> man userdel before you do that.
[05:35] <hanophix33> how come firefox bin takes like 50 percent of cpu?
[05:36] <jburd> Debian prefers deluser instead.
[05:36] <Agent_bob> man man   before you do that...
[05:36] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:36] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: I find AWN working everytime i log in
[05:36] <vio>  '<
[05:37] <Agent_bob> jburd yeah and adduser   but i don't much like perl scripts
[05:37] <bouma> can i change my keysused to switch consoles, so the contextkey toggles between the last two consoles ?
[05:37] <gogeta> bouma whats wrong with ctrl alt f1
[05:37] <Bubble_tea> FastZ where did u dl and install
[05:37] <tavo18> I need some help my machine has a fault
[05:38] <Agent_bob> bouma console or the gnome-terminal ?
[05:38] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[05:38] <tavo18> at POST the machine stops when detecting hard disk drive
[05:38] <bouma> Agent_bob: console
[05:38] <Bubble_tea> FastZ Couldn't find package avant-window-navigator
[05:38] <On3> Agent_bob, my ftp server is saying anonymous requires a password except i used the command u gave me....
[05:38] <tavo18> and then it shows Verifying DMI Pool Data
[05:39] <n-iCe> how to install *** PCRE library
[05:39] <On3> Agent_bob, it shouldnt need a password
[05:39] <bouma> Agent_bob: i suppose gnome terminal is pretty good too
[05:39] <tavo18> i don't know what to doo
[05:39] <sparr_> xmms is no longer in hardy...  wtf?
[05:39] <bouma> Agent_bob: but i was asking regarding the console
[05:39] <mrpockets> im trying to configure skype and it seems im having trouble getting my mic to work
[05:39] <Agent_bob> bouma ummm without writing a script not toggle,  but; you can use the windows keys or the like to shift higher and lower tty's   i can give you a command for it if you like.
[05:39] <Bubble_tea> FastZ E:  couldn't find pkg avant-window-navigator
[05:39] <goodhabit> sparr_, xmms is not developing any more. Audacious is replacement for xmms.
[05:40] <Bubble_tea> Does anyone have that problem?
[05:40] <hanophix33> gkrellm shows that my gpu is at 128c
[05:40] <bouma> gogeta: cause its nice to just toggle between two consoles, ie for editing and build/run
[05:40] <n-iCe> how can I search a package from terminal???
[05:40] <gogeta> ctrl alt f
[05:40] <gogeta> f2
[05:40] <goodhabit> n-iCe, $ aptitude search PACKAGE_NAME
[05:40] <sparr_> goodhabit: xmms had a release like 5 months ago, thats a lot less "not developing" than many other packages
[05:40] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: gimme a second.  you have to add some repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40]  * kindofabuzz gives FastZ
[05:40] <_aeGIs> How do I change the default icon for specific mime type apps?
[05:40] <gogeta> bouma easy switch keys i dont get it
[05:41] <goodhabit> sparr_, audacious is better not only cuz of better development.
[05:41] <Agent_bob> bouma are you sure you are not talking about that gnome-terminal that you get from the gnome menu itom named "console" (a terrable misnomer)
[05:41] <guest___> what is kubuntu?
[05:41] <guest___> is it the same as ubuntu?
[05:41] <gogeta> ubuntu with kde
[05:41] <guest___> !kubuntu
[05:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:41] <goodhabit> guest___, kubuntu is KDE ubuntu edition.
[05:41] <guest___> KDE ??
[05:41] <gogeta> !kde
[05:41] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:42] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: here is a good how-to to get you started.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[05:42] <guest___> um.. so kde is conpiz fusion right?
[05:42] <fulio> How, i have a question, is there any kind of keylogger for ubuntu?
[05:42] <gogeta> xompiz fusion is x
[05:42] <Agent_bob> wrong
[05:42] <gogeta> compiz
[05:42] <gogeta> any windows manager can use it
[05:42] <blind> have there been any advancements in bluetooth since edgy?
[05:42] <On3> Agent_bob, does anonymous have a password? or should it if i use that command u gave me?
[05:43] <_aeGIs> How do I change the default icon for specific mime type apps?
[05:43] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:43] <gogeta> Agent_bob right it was intergrated in x a wile back
[05:43] <hanophix33> is it safe to say that gkrellm is accurate?  its saying im at 262 degrees Fahrenheit on mu GPU
[05:43] <blind> I thought compiz WAS a wm?
[05:43] <On3> Agent_bob, cause im trying to access the ftp with the user account anonymous but its asking for a password
[05:43] <Agent_bob> On3 no.  passwd blah   to set one.   or   passwd -d blah   to make it passwordless.
[05:43] <gogeta>  blind at first it was it evalved
[05:44] <fulio> Hi everyone. Is there anykind of keylogger for  ubuntu?
[05:44] <blind> interesting.
[05:44] <dmsuperman> Does anybody have any experience in using Snippits?
[05:44] <Agent_bob> fulio for what purpose ?
[05:44] <ouellettesr> jburd, I got windows to see Ubuntu, but when i try to connect and use my ubuntu usernale/pass, it says login is incorrect, any ideas?
[05:44] <guest___> !gutsy
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[05:45] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:45] <On3> Agent_bob, its working! thanks heaps
[05:45] <jburd> ouellettesr: man smbpasswd
[05:45] <fulio> Agent_bob, i have my little brother using the computer while im at work im thinking that he has been wathcing pr0n
[05:45] <On3> Agent_bob, linux newbie, becomes that much closer to become linux kiddie :p
[05:45] <bouma> Agent_bob: im 100% sure im talking about the real "text" (depending on kernel framebuffer settings) mode console
[05:46] <Agent_bob> On3 welcome.   and you are learning some of the "most basic" and powerful linux commands your first day....
[05:46] <gogeta> Agent_bob what framebufer mode?
[05:47] <On3> Agent_bob, its kind of sad but ive been using Knoppix and Ubuntu on my desktop for a while, but always my Win2003 server was ok, but now i think its time to upgrade to something alittle more powerful... Go ubuntu server!
[05:47] <khin> hey guys, im running dapper and sometimes, firefox (v. <IP_ADDRESS>) just randomly quits. all my windows at once, gone
[05:47] <Agent_bob> bouma ok,   my answer stands as perscribed then.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> bouma ummm without writing a script not toggle,  but; you can use the windows keys or the like to shift higher and lower tty's   i can give you a command for it if you like.
[05:47] <khin> it doesnt happen too often but def enough to be annoying
[05:47] <gogeta> On3 err thats weaker
[05:47] <blind> khin: well, try upgrading firefox
[05:47] <jburd> ouellettesr: Google "smbpasswd ubuntu"
[05:47] <n-iCe> PCRE library is needed; please make sure you have the PCRE development anybody knows the package name???
[05:47] <On3> gogeta, what do u mean by that?
[05:47] <gogeta> On3 server is just text ubuntu w lamp
[05:47] <On3> gogeta, lets not get into a linux v. windows battle here
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 lol
[05:48] <Agent_bob> play nice
[05:48] <On3> gogeta, i was meaning swapping from windows 2003 to ubuntu server :p
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 not talking windows you said going to server
[05:48] <On3> gogeta, sorry, that was my miscommunication :S
[05:48] <gogeta> On3 unless you whant text mode :)
[05:49] <blind> on a server you don't need much more.
[05:49] <gogeta>  blind :)
[05:49] <gogeta>  blind yea not mutch text mode cant do
[05:49] <khin> ok. another problem: sometimes, i cannot start any programs or even shut down the computer. if i click anything in the taskbar, nothing happens. i have to do a hard shut down. honestly the environment is less stable than windows xp.
[05:49] <khin> im running dapper btw
[05:49] <Agent_bob> gogeta besides cli based linux is not pre'se "weaker" than +gui  anyway
[05:50] <gogeta>  blind hell you can play a a movie in framebuffer mode if you whant
[05:50] <blind> khin: well, while dapper is an LTS distro, there have been three upgrades since then that I'd recommend if you're having problems
[05:50] <gogeta> Agent_bob well if you wanna a gui you better w desktop + server tools
[05:50] <HipShot> hey quick question, what is that new apt that automatically installs and updates video drivers for Ubuntu?
[05:51] <khin> blind, ok. i haven't upgraded mainly because i'm afraid with three upgrades at once, somehow everything will break horribly
[05:51] <blind> khin: you can upgrade from dapper to gutsy (the latest) although I hear hardy comes out shortly.
[05:51] <Agent_bob> gogeta or server w/ gui added   same smoke stack, different brand name.
[05:51] <chris062689> Whats the channel for Ubuntu Eee?
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob lol thats all desktop would be
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob a server with a gui
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob lol
[05:52] <Agent_bob> gogeta that's what i said    "same smoke stack, different brand name"   but we are OT
[05:52] <gogeta> Agent_bob knothing agenst it i can ran text mode like a pro
[05:52] <n-iCe> Where can I install pcre library?
[05:53] <n-iCe> pcre
[05:53] <chris062689> What is the channel name for ubuntu eee?
[05:53] <chris062689> !eeepc
[05:53] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[05:53] <gogeta> Agent_bob but we get 4 or 5 a day server installs come in with whers the gui
[05:53] <n-iCe> !pcre
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcre - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Bubble_tea> FastZ how to run awn?
[05:53] <khin> blind, I think I'll wait for Hardy
[05:54] <Agent_bob> gogeta do you answer "in the repos where it belongs"  :)))
[05:54] <blind> khin: yeah, i could be completely wrong, but i believe it comes out very shortly.
[05:54] <Agent_bob> n-iCe libpcre++-dev ?
[05:54] <blind> !timeline
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about timeline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <blind> hmm..
[05:54] <blind> i forgot the command
[05:54] <gogeta> !hardy
[05:54] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:54] <_Net> How do you make a launcher for something using a custom icon?
[05:54] <gogeta> :)
[05:54] <_Net> I remember doing it before, I cant seem to find out how now.
[05:55] <blind> oh, so yeah. 3 days depending on your time zone :P
[05:55] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: well first of all you have to have Compiz-Fusion running on your machine... then to start AWN after you install it, you just go to Applications>Accessories>Avant Window Navigator
[05:55] <FastZ> Bubble_tea: without Compiz-Fusion, you're AWN isn't gonna work
[05:55] <blind> _Net: same way you'd make a regular launcher, then you can change the icon
[05:56] <_Net> I can change the embelm but I dont see any where that says Choose/Browse for icon
[05:56] <leileilol> hi
[05:56] <leileilol> jeeeez 1200
[05:56] <n-iCe> Agent_bob,  workes, thanks, where can I find the package names?
[05:56] <blind> _Net: when you click the 'properties' button (im assuming you're getting the same screen as me), do you get the icon in the top left?
[05:56] <FastZ> _Net: when you create the launcher, it should have a button with a picture of a springboard, just click on there and then navigate to where your icon is
[05:57] <_Net> Oh Blind.
[05:57] <_Net> Thank you sir, I didnt notice that.
[05:57] <shadeofgrey> i know this question doesnt belong here but -- my speakers for my xbox360 are on the floor and i cant reach the volu,me control - does anybody know if theres a masterr voliume  you can set from the console itself?
[05:57] <leileilol> is it too late for a package update for the openarena package?
[05:57] <On3> can anyone help with a quick apache question?
[05:57] <FastZ> LMAO @ shadeofgrey... the ultimate lazy
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> actually im wheelchair bound and permanently handicapped
[05:58] <leileilol> it'd really suck if 0.7.0 was just there, because that's gonna be obsolete shortly
[05:58] <Agent_bob> n-iCe several ways.    apt-cache search <something>    synaptic has a search feathure.   /msg ubotu find <something> in here works.  and there is a   http://packages.ubuntu.com   i think
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> i CANT get uo
[05:58] <FastZ> LMAO @ FastZ for being a dumbass
[05:58] <mutk> FastZ, Nice one..
[05:58] <leileilol> 0.7.0 isn't compatible with 0.7.6, and versa
[05:58] <FastZ> I'm entitled to one idiotic response per day
[05:59] <blind> wasn't necessarily idiotic... just uninformed :P
[05:59] <On3> FastZ, do i get one :p
[05:59] <Agent_bob> n-iCe normally i use the first of those.  but i'm a CLI kind-o-guy
[05:59] <mutk> FastZ, And shadeofgrey is entitled to at least one appology :)
[05:59] <FastZ> On3: you just used it
[05:59] <n-iCe> oh
[05:59] <On3> Fastz, Dam! lol
[05:59] <FastZ> mutk: that's true, sorry about that shadeofgrey
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> FastZ, we'll get over it a lot faster if you actually know the nser -- and apology accepted...  really theres nothing to say sorry for
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> just help me if you know how
[06:00] <Iced_Eagle> For games, I don't believe there is.
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> no i mean for the console
[06:00] <Iced_Eagle> I think the console volume control is only for media
[06:00] <mutk> shadeofgrey, It actually depens on what sort of speakers they are. and what the vol control really does.
[06:00] <FastZ> shadeofgrey: eh, it just didnt click that there might have been a logical reason why someone wouldnt be able to reach the volume switch
[06:00] <Andre_Gondim> does anyone know witch pack may i translate channel source?
[06:01] <mutk> shadeofgrey, If the vol control is for a pre-amp built into the speakers, then no there is no software accessable master
[06:01] <shadeofgrey> FasZ dude its no big deal.  a majority of the public has never interacted with a disabl;ed person before. im used to it
[06:01] <Iced_Eagle> shadeofgrey: I know. The only volume slider I know of is when you're listening to music on the 360. I think everything else just gets outputted at full volume.
[06:01] <arquebus> I got a gf8800GTX graphic card and now the ubuntu cd wont boot anymore. Anyone know what thats about? And if it will get fixed soon?
[06:01] <tushyd> can anyone help? Why does firefox crash on some youtube videos? It's weird, it happens at random.
[06:02] <blind> tushyd: which flash plugin are you using?
[06:02] <tushyd> i think flash 9
[06:02] <tushyd> it usually happens when I first load the page. It will just close firefox alltogether
[06:03] <blind> tbh, I don't know much about the differences in all the different flash versions... i just know i went through what you're going through :P
[06:03] <mutk> shadeofgrey, Do you have the remote available?
[06:03] <arquebus> I really hate to be without ubuntu, I got a partition waiting for it, so can anyone tell me why my 8800gtx card is stopping the ubuntu live cd from booting?
[06:03] <the_alamo> when i check my system monitor it shows that i am running to sessions of gdm (one inside the other)  is that normal?
[06:03] <tushyd> blind, got any ideas?
[06:04] <blind> tushyd: just try upgrading flash? also, what version of firefox? try upgrading that, too?
[06:04] <tushyd> i'm pretty sure I have the newest versions of both...
[06:04] <Agent_bob> arquebus did you add a graphics card ?   i.e. two possable outputs ?
[06:04] <blind> I'm not really sure, then :\
[06:05] <lopin> Anybody know how I can convert a video out of an Xvid, and into a standard mpeg1?
[06:05] <bouma> is there something like a keymap script in the ubuntu init ?
[06:05] <blind> arquebus: what exactly do you mean when you say it's stopping it from booting?
[06:05] <maestrotech> where is the binary "vncpassword" or "vncpasswd" ??
[06:05] <maestrotech> where is the binary "vncpassword" or "vncpasswd"  for ubuntu? (sorry)
[06:05] <RodGo> Hi i need some help
[06:06] <blind> Hi, RodGo.
[06:06] <Agent_bob> arquebus i'm with blind "<blind> arquebus: what exactly do you mean when you say it's stopping it from booting?
[06:06] <RodGo> i am using ubuntu 6.06 on my webserver
[06:06] <arquebus> I mean that after I hit enter for the live cd boot, it just hangs with a black screen
[06:06] <RodGo> and when i do a sudo apt-get update
[06:06] <RodGo> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:06] <RodGo> i get this error
[06:06] <bouma> Agent_bob: perhaps i should go with your offer to use the windows keys to switch higher and lower, please
[06:06] <lopin> arquebus: do you have enough ram?
[06:06] <arquebus> Agent_bob, what do you mean 2 possible outputs?
[06:06] <blind> arquebus: try checking out your bios to see if your videos going to the right spot by default.
[06:06] <arquebus> I have 2 gigs
[06:06] <RodGo> Setting up initramfs-tools (0.40ubuntu34) ...
[06:06] <RodGo> Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-server
[06:06] <RodGo> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[06:06] <RodGo>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:06] <RodGo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of udev:
[06:06] <FloodBot1> RodGo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <RodGo>  udev depends on initramfs-tools (>= 0.40ubuntu30); however:
[06:07] <arquebus> blind, what do you mean by right spot?
[06:07] <maestrotech> Does anyone know how to create a VNC password file in ubuntu?
[06:07] <Agent_bob> bouma pasting file /etc/sysV/winkeys.sh
[06:07] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d34f82396
[06:07] <blind> arquebus: well, i've got my onboard card and an nvidia card.. i had to set my bios to use the nvidia rather than the onboard
[06:08] <RodGo> please if somebody can help me
[06:08] <blind> RodGo: use a pastebin when pasting more than 1 or 2 lines. http://pastebin.com
[06:08] <Agent_bob> bouma you should probably use showkeys  first to see what the actual hex is for your specific keys.
[06:08] <RodGo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63892/
[06:08] <blind> oh you got it
[06:08] <arquebus> blind-ok, I'll check that out
[06:08] <arquebus> blind-thx
[06:08] <Julo> what opens .rpm ?
[06:08] <lopin> Anybody familiar with how to use mencoder, or ffmpeg from the terminal?
[06:08] <the_alamo> does the gdm usually show up in two parts in system-monitor, one as a sub-section of the other?
[06:08] <lopin> Julo: Those are for red hat linux...  Not Ubuntu, or Debian...
[06:09] <the_alamo> i don't remember how it looked before.
[06:09] <Bax_> my right hand is hurting from typing, but I need it to finish a paper.   Only /dev/sda1 is there. It works on the gusty live CD.
[06:09] <lopin> Julo: You might be able to use alien, but I wouldn't recommend it..
[06:09] <blind> I've had good experience with alien
[06:10] <lopin> I've not had to use it...
[06:10] <blind> lopin, there's a lot of scripts to do what you want to do... tovid is one.. i used another recently but can't remember the name.
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog scsi emulation turns all hd devices into sd devices
[06:10] <Tirefrog> Agent_bob: oh, ok! never thought of that... so they'll now have sdx names?
[06:11] <mutk> That is the second person today calling it 'gusty'. I notice the small things
[06:11] <blind> mine was a typo, mutk :P
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog prolly.   i'm still using dapper   LTS
[06:11] <Tirefrog> Agent_bob: OK, thanks, I'll try it!
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Tirefrog welcome.
[06:14] <wuxia> what's the right way to rebuild a ubunut package with debug symbols? (libgtk-x11 in debug mode is crashing my progs and I need to rebuild it)
[06:15] <JohninLex> hey what does this do    sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:15] <JohninLex> please
[06:16] <chris062689> It installs multimedia codecs
[06:16] <chris062689> Java
[06:16] <mutk> wuxia, I am not sure if Ubuntu does this - But in other distor's debug packages are sepeaate and available for install.
[06:16] <chris062689> Basicly anythig that's "restricted"
[06:16] <mutk> 'seperate*
[06:16] <JohninLex> is it a bad thing or a good thing
[06:16] <wuxia> mutk: the build in ubuntu ones are crashing, which is one I need to rebuild it
[06:17] <astro76> JohninLex: it's fine... installs the stuff listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:17] <mutk> wuxia, Ah of course. Ignore me then :)
[06:17] <neeto> what's a program to do video screencaps?
[06:17] <bouma> intelikey: ok so im checking out the loadkeys command, im wondering how the toggle could be done though
[06:18] <JohninLex> ah thank you both astro76 and Chris062689
[06:19] <bouma> is anyone adept at using loadkeys ? can i hook in a script this way
[06:22] <JohninLex> night, and thank you all for your help today
[06:22] <mactimes> Is there any software like CamStudio for Ubuntu?
[06:23] <syntax_> Oi
[06:23] <bouma> well everyone, agent-bob has gone, but i figured out there is a loadkeys alias called Last_console .. so thats the solution to having a key toggle between two consoles :P
[06:24] <arquebus> mactimes, yes  there is open source video screen capture software, but I cant remember the name off hand
[06:24] <TheDukeNY> Hello, I was hoping someone could tell me know to extend my screen to a second monitor as opposed to having my screen cloned
[06:24] <mactimes> arquebus: Well.  CamStudio is Open Source, but it only works for Windows.
[06:25] <mactimes> arquebus: I used to have a similar software for GNU/Linux, but quality of video was truly poor.
[06:25] <syntax_> preciso de ajuda como arrumo isso E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg--configure -a'to correct the problem.
[06:26] <On3> whats the best way to secure an OpenSSH server?
[06:26] <mactimes> syntax_: #ubuntu-br
[06:26] <syntax_> yes
[06:26] <arquebus> mactimes, I know this is a good quality one for linux, but the forum I saw it on is gone, so I cant look it up
[06:27] <mactimes> arquebus: RecordMyDesktop?
[06:27] <legend2440> mactimes: istanbul is somewhat eqivalent. not as many features as camstudio from what i've heard
[06:27] <mactimes> legend2440: Better than RecordMyDesktop?
[06:27] <arquebus> mactimes- no I dont think that was it
[06:27] <bullgard4> [GUI] What is the name of a field where you can select one from several items by klicking in it?
[06:27] <legend2440> mactimes: yes i think it is
[06:28] <yosho> hey, evan?
[06:28] <mactimes> legend2440: Thanks!  I'll give it a try.  I didn't like recordmydesktop at all.  CamStudio is just _perfect_, it is OpenSource, but I don't hold enough knowledge to port it to linux.
[06:28] <yosho> don't worry about it
[06:29] <RenatoSilva> what time is it?
[06:31] <mactimes> arquebus: Cankiri?
[06:31] <Leeuw> bullgard4: could it be 'radio-buttons' ?  (that's the name in windoze and some desktop config s)
[06:32] <bouma> ok i can bind right-win to Last_Console, but how do i convert the showkeys output into a keycode argument (decimal)
[06:32] <bouma> showkeys gives 7F FF, for the menukey
[06:32] <RenatoSilva> what time is it?
[06:32] <pipsqeek> 3:32 pm here
[06:32] <bouma> what should i use for keycode x (in decimal i presume, does it go over 256?)
[06:33] <TheDukeNY> you cant extend monitors?
[06:33] <bullgard4> Leeuw: No. A radio-button allows one to select one of severals fields as active. My question is about a single field where you can select one of several items.
[06:33] <n-iCe> bye all
[06:34] <Leeuw> bullgard4: ok, thatś why I asked, y'never know, right ?   In that case i do not know, alas.
[06:34] <Leeuw> bullgard4: a roll-down menu perhaps ?
[06:34] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: 2:30am, are you in Japan?
[06:35] <Myste> I am trying to disable my onboard sound. I have blacklisted the modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Despite this, they are still loading. Any suggestions?
[06:35] <Leeuw> bullgard4: thatś the one wizza arrow on za side, probably also not what you mean... :-X
[06:35] <pipsqeek> RenatoSilva: Australia. Sydney more specifically
[06:36] <joetheodd> Hey guys, none of my GNOME windows have borders or title bars. Is this some kind of new tech, or am I experiencing a bit of a screwup? I fear the latter. :P
[06:36] <bouma> well now that ive solved my problem, how should i enter the solution into the ubuntu forums? or similar so the next person can find it easier??
[06:37] <LSG> joetheodd: Are you using Emerald?
[06:37] <joetheodd> LSC, stock (as in, installed an hour ago) gnome.
[06:37] <mosno> joetheodd: Compiz + NVIDIA right?
[06:37] <bouma> some particular section i should put it ?
[06:37] <joetheodd> LSC, only change I made was switched default monitors and did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:37] <joetheodd> mosno, I'm not sure of Compiz, but NVIDIA yeah
[06:38] <mosno> joetheodd: i think there's a one-liner for xorg.conf that fixes it
[06:38] <LSG> joetheodd: Huh...that is weird... it happens to me sometimes with Emerald but i have no idea how it can happen with the native Gnome borders. Have you tried changing the theme?
[06:38] <mosno> joetheodd: i can't check on this system tho :(
[06:38] <joetheodd> LSC, I haven't tried that.. gimme a sec, I'll do that
[06:38]  * kindofabuzz gives joetheodd
[06:38] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: nice
[06:39] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: that's where 815 Ocean Air was from, right?
[06:39] <markus_> joetheodd: maybe you are using the nv-driver instead of the nvidia-driver. `cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv` to verify this.
[06:39] <joetheodd> LSC, where'd the theme option go? :P
[06:40] <LSG> joetheodd: System--Preferences--Appearance
[06:40] <pipsqeek> RenatoSilva: I have no idea.
[06:40] <Myste> I am trying to disable my onboard sound. I have blacklisted the modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Despite this, they are still loading. Any suggestions?
[06:40] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: don't you see LOST?
[06:41]  * pipsqeek doesn't watch TV.
[06:41] <monkeybritches> Disable it in the BIOS?
[06:41] <joetheodd> LSC, theme itself didn't do it, but changing visual effects did. That is, setting it to none.
[06:41] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: wow
[06:41] <RenatoSilva> pipsqeek: kkkkk
[06:41] <n-iCe> !skype
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:41] <joetheodd> LSC, but I did make my gnome prettier in the process
[06:41] <markus_> joetheodd: Then it's likely you are using the non-proprietary driver.
[06:41]  * pipsqeek just googled 815 Ocean Air and realised what you're on about.
[06:41] <LSG> joetheodd That means you have some problem with Compiz
[06:41] <Myste> Monkeybritches: Did that, and Ubuntu is still detecting it.
[06:41] <pipsqeek> I haven't watched TV in years. too much rubbish to filter.
[06:41] <kclemens> Kubuntu<Windows
[06:42] <joetheodd> markus_, correct -- the nvidia driver
[06:42] <LSG> joetheodd Lemme check if i can find your problem
[06:42] <Myste> it's an AC97 chipset
[06:42] <monkeybritches> Strange, because it shouldn't if you disable it in the BIOS...
[06:42] <joetheodd> LSC, I'm using a MX4000 I believe, if that'll help you.
[06:42] <cal> hey
[06:42] <cal> I need help with root's pas
[06:42] <cal> the one I set when I installed Ubuntu isn't working
[06:42] <joetheodd> cal, what's up?
[06:43] <swalko> sudo passwd
[06:43] <ng0n> cal  use  sudo
[06:43] <LSG> joetheodd I'm assuming you have the restricted drivers enabled, right?
[06:43] <Myste> Yeah. I'm stumped.
[06:43]  * cal tries sudo
[06:43] <joetheodd> LSC, correct
[06:43] <monkeybritches> Are you sure you saved the settings when you exited the BIOS setup?
[06:43] <Myste> Yeah
[06:43] <pipsqeek> cal: copy and paste the command you're trying to execute
[06:43] <Myste> It's been disabled since the day I built this machine
[06:43] <cal> pipsqeek: I just need to log in as root
[06:44] <cal> and my pass isn't working
[06:44] <pipsqeek> you don't log in as root
[06:44] <Myste> I double checked it, disabled the game ports as well just to be sure.
[06:44] <Myste> Even so, why is it loading the modules I added to the blacklist?
[06:44] <markus_> joetheodd: Try starting compiz from a terminal and post the output. `compiz --replace`
[06:44] <pipsqeek> you log in as your user and then su to root once you do what swalko suggested
[06:44] <gogeta> Myste why not just set the defult device on linux to your other card
[06:45] <LSG> joetheodd It's weird though, i've installed Ubuntu the other day on my sister's machine (she has an nVidia 8600 GT or something) and i had no problems
[06:45] <cal> well..
[06:45] <LSG> joetheodd Apparently it's a well known issue
[06:45] <cal> I can't get the root pass to change
[06:45] <swalko> sudo passwd
[06:45] <cal> hmm...
[06:45] <cal> ooh
[06:45] <swalko> type your pass
[06:45] <cal> I'm lucky now
[06:45] <cal> I wrote it down
[06:45] <FloodBot1> cal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <swalko> and then new root pass 2x
[06:46] <kclemens> what does rm / do
[06:46] <Myste> Gogeta: Because OSS has decided that it wants to use that card and won't use my SBlive.
[06:46] <gogeta> lol dont do it
[06:46] <legend2440> joetheodd: have you tried metacity --replace in terminal?
[06:46] <acidicbase> i always alias my rm with confirmation
[06:47] <joetheodd> legend2440, pastebinning compiz --replace right now
[06:47] <gogeta> kclemens melts your system
[06:47] <kclemens> a-v told me to do rm /
[06:47] <LSG> kclemens Removes files
[06:47] <zcat[1]> !grub
[06:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <gogeta> and a op will probly ban him now
[06:47] <joetheodd> legend2440, markus_, http://pastebin.com/m28c955c
[06:47] <n-iCe> is skype free?
[06:47] <kclemens> yea
[06:47] <n-iCe> calls between computers
[06:47] <zcat[1]> gratis yes, libre no.
[06:47] <pipsqeek> ubotu: you probably lost grub after the windows install because Windows wrote over the MBR with it's own crap.
[06:48] <LSG> n-iCe Yeah, you don't need to pay for that
[06:48] <pipsqeek> lol, ubotu is a bot?
[06:48] <pipsqeek> lol
[06:48] <nighthawk008> I am trying to install kylix on ubuntu, it sais it can not open shared object file -- anybody ideas?
[06:48] <zcat[1]> pipsqeek: actually, I 'lost' grub because I rebuilt my filesystem on a new drive
[06:48] <praktikum> hai
[06:48] <joetheodd> Is there any easy way to use LILO with ubuntu? Grub and I have a love-hate relationship.
[06:48] <zcat[1]> no windows has ever been on this machine
[06:49] <gogeta> oetheodd guess if you install it yourself
[06:49] <joetheodd> gogeta, I figured, I had to make sure I put "easy" in there. :P.
[06:49] <gogeta> oetheodd kik
[06:49] <LSG> joetheodd: I've found this, i hope it helps. http://geekybits.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-window-borders.html
[06:50] <gogeta> lol
[06:51] <Myste> is there a way to disable OSS so that any OSS applications will use AOSS?
[06:52] <Myste> or am I way off track?
[06:52] <Marupa> I have a grabbee-X video device which worked fine under 7.04, but now trying to use it under 7.10, it doesn't work.  I get a blue 'no signal' screen as user, and a green flickery screen as root, when using tvtime, which is the program I used beforehand.
[06:53] <zcat[1]> bah, 'tab' in grub is giving me an actual tab, not a command-line completeion :(
[06:53] <Marupa> dmesg picks it up, as it did before, so there's no change that I can tell on my end.  It works in windows, just not in linux now.
[06:54] <Leeuw> how can I change the behaviour of deleteon a mp3-player ?  (I want to delete directly, instead of putting in a trashcan on the device itself, wich doesn't make room for other stuff; have to delete twice this way, first delete, than delete trash.100 folder; is pretty annoyingk))
[06:54] <gogeta> zcat[1] e edits in grub
[06:54] <gogeta> zcat[1] and c i link = command line only
[06:56] <zcat[1]> OK, root is /dev/sda2 or hd(0,1) in grub.. if I run grub-install it keeps trlling me there's no bios devices... It was installed on this drive before... what do I type?
[06:56] <zcat[1]> gogeta: sudo grub from a booted system?
[06:56] <Myste> Sound Preferences shows two devices, the SBlive on ALSA mixer and the AC97 on OSS. I want to get rid of the AC97
[06:57] <Myste> Or else point the OSS mixer to the SBLive card
[06:57] <gogeta> zcat[1] your trying to boot from a command line in grub?
[06:57] <gogeta> boot /dev/hda0,0
[06:57] <monkeybritches> !intrepid
[06:57] <ubotu> Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[06:57] <zcat[1]> I'm trying to put the MBR back on my sata drive.. currently booted from an IDE one
[06:58] <monkeybritches> Does anyone know what comes after Intrepid Ibex? J-something... ?
[06:58] <Marupa> Any ideas for the video isue?
[06:58] <gogeta> zcat[1] a nice tool for that is the grub live cd supergrub
[06:58] <Leeuw> Jumbled Jay-bird
[06:58] <zcat[1]> drives that have stage1 on them are /dev/sda2 aka hd(0,1) and /dev/sdb1 aka hd(1,0)
[06:59] <monkeybritches> Sorry Marupa, no idea
[06:59] <legend2440> Leeuw: in nautilus open edit >preferences>behaviour >bypass trash option
[06:59] <gogeta> zcat[1] has menus and stuff can install grub anywhere
[06:59] <Leeuw> legend2440: thanx !  will try
[06:59] <zcat[1]> I want to fix up grum's MBR it's currently looking for /dev/sda1
[06:59] <blind> just upgraded from edgy to feisty and now q3a won't run: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63893/
[07:00] <Leeuw> legend2440: does that go for all devices than ?   Or can I set for that device only ?
[07:00] <zcat[1]> How do I put grub back on the MBR so that it looks for stage1 on hd(0,1) instead of hd(0,0)
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] what did i suggest
[07:00] <zcat[1]> without burning another CD...
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] ubuntus only gonna install on the first drive
[07:00] <gogeta> zcat[1] then make a supergrub floppy
[07:00] <legend2440> Leeuw: i think you have a choice wheter to put in trash or delete without putting in trash
[07:01] <zcat[1]> ubuntu''s not doing JACK.. I have the grub command line.. btw no floppy drive in this box
[07:01] <gogeta> zcat[1] then wast a cd
[07:01] <gogeta> zcat[1] its handy to keep around
[07:01] <zcat[1]> I don't have any spare CD's
[07:01] <legend2440> Leeuw: i think all devices but not positive
[07:01] <gogeta> got a pen drive lol
[07:01] <monkeybritches> zcat[1]: Read up on grub here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[07:01] <zcat[1]> I have a bootable system on hda, I'm in it. I have the grub command line. this MUST be possible
[07:01] <gogeta> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager.  GRUB here is giving me an actual tab, not tab completing
[07:02] <zcat[1]> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:02] <zcat[1]> find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:02] <zcat[1]>  (hd0,1)
[07:02] <zcat[1]>  (hd1,0)
[07:02] <FloodBot1> zcat[1]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <zcat[1]> Now what do I do with this?
[07:03] <liuyang> hi
[07:03] <Leeuw> legend2440: yeah, I found it, itś all devices, gives xtra option in contxt.menu
[07:03] <gogeta> zcat[1] that tells you wehere to put grub
[07:03] <gogeta> zcat[1] 1 would be your second drive
[07:03] <zcat[1]> I know where the drives are; I know where stage one is; how do I tell grub from the commandline to rewrite the mbr on hd(0,0) with looking for stage1 at hd(0,1)
[07:03] <snarkster> my laptop continually runs at 700 Mhz instead of 1Ghz.. How do i make it run at full power when running on A/C.
[07:04] <zcat[1]> Yes, I am booted up from my second drive. I want to fix grub on my first drive
[07:04] <gogeta> grub install hd(1,0) i would assume
[07:04] <mutk> snarkster, Give it some work to do - does it increase the CPU frequ?
[07:04] <snarkster> yes when i have alot open
[07:05] <snarkster> mutk: yes when i have alot of stuff open..
[07:05] <Leeuw> legend2440: is astrange option thoug, if I set it it deletes right away, but puts in main trashcan instead of tras-folder on device... Think something got lost in translation (using Dutch version)
[07:05] <snarkster> i wanted it to always run at full power when on A/C tho
[07:06] <ecubuntu> hey guys how have hardy, i have a question? i have my wireless network with mac adress only but with Hardy i can't connect
[07:06] <bazhang> ecubuntu: what wireless chipset
[07:06] <zcat[1]> how can grub tell me stage1 is on hd0,1 and then in the next command tell me hd0,1 does not exist?!!!!\
[07:06] <legend2440> Leeuw: i've never enabled that option mysel so i don't know how well it works
[07:06] <ecubuntu> intel bazhang
[07:06] <Leeuw> legend2440: whatever, it solved my problem anyway, thanx !  (Come to think I allways tell noobz in my day-job (work in PC-center for low-chance-people) to read help and try options, turns out I'm to lazy meself... ;-)
[07:07] <zcat[1]> GAH@!!! useless pile of crap
[07:07] <snarkster> there are no governors in the cpu freq scaling
[07:07] <bazhang> ecubuntu: meet me in #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion
[07:07] <ecubuntu> k bazhang
[07:07] <Chris[]> Hello, I just burned a text based install of Ubuntu 6.06 Server Edition, on a CD-R at 4x speed, and apparently 'Packages.gz' is corrupt, I get an error involving md5 and this file during setup
[07:07] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:07] <Chris[]> I think 4x speed is low enough, yes?
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:08] <FloodBot1> liveinteractive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <bazhang> liveinteractive: dont spam here
[07:08] <Nick123> Hello
[07:08] <liveinteractive> scam or phising
[07:08] <Chris[]> Anybody?
[07:09] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:09] <bazhang> liveinteractive: stop now
[07:09] <Nick123> Does anyone know of a samll free parttion program i can download so i can make my windwos partition smaller so i can install ubuntu
[07:09] <monkeybritches> Parted Magic
[07:10] <snarkster> nick123: gparted and or qtparted will do that for you if you know how
[07:10] <Leeuw> Chris , sometimes there's 'to low'; if you use like 52x cd, the tracks in 4x get 'to deep' sort of.   Try 12x, always works best for me, better than 4
[07:10] <bazhang> Nick123: the ubuntu installer will do it for you--resize partition in the install process
[07:10] <Leeuw> Chris[]: Chris , sometimes there's 'to low'; if you use like 52x cd, the tracks in 4x get 'to deep' sort of.   Try 12x, always works best for me, better than 4
[07:10] <Chris[]> Leeuw, I've tried 4x, and 11x
[07:10] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com
[07:10] <blind> Okay, for some reason my sound won't work in certain programs. For instance, I have VBox open and Quake3 won't make any sound, neither will mpd.. but xfmedia and gxine and mplayer make sound..
[07:11] <liveinteractive> http://onestepdownloads.com the best website of downloading linux distros
[07:11] <liveinteractive> http://emule.org
[07:11] <bazhang> !ops | liveinteractive
[07:11] <ubotu> liveinteractive: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[07:11] <mutk> Somebody ban this idiot.
[07:12] <Chris[]> This also happened when I tried installing debian.
[07:12] <snarkster> i just ignored him
[07:12] <Aces|> I have a problem. First time trying to install Ubuntu and I get through the Start or Install screen and through the loading screens but once I hear the drums the screen goes black. Through reading the forums its probably my Nvidia card. I tried some of the solutions on the forums but still have had no luck.
[07:12] <Leeuw> Chris[]: 11x ??  I don't think that speeds xists...   You're using the direct-burn option in Nautilus right ?   I've tried that several times, seems buggy, allways got errors.   Try installing Gnome-burner, that works like a charm, sort of a stripped down NERO, perfect every time
[07:12] <Chris[]> No, actually, I'm burning on Windows.
[07:12] <Chris[]> But I tried Nautulis before
[07:13] <snarkster> does k3b work in gnome? that is by far the best burner software Ive ever used.
[07:13] <blind> yes, it does
[07:13] <blind> if you've got kdelibs installed
[07:14] <Chris[]> Leeuw: It was 11.7x on Nautilus.
[07:14] <Leeuw> Chris[]: hm, strange..   Maybe you used cd's from market or something (they's sometimes old stock that been in the sun or something
[07:14] <blind> Anyone have a clue why my quake3 and mpd can't produce sound, but other programs do?
[07:14] <Chris[]> Leeuw, I've burned ISO's with these before.
[07:14] <Chris[]> All the other linux-running PCs in my house used isos on these same types of CDs.
[07:14] <Leeuw> Chris[]: and this one went wrong once, or all the time ?
[07:15] <Chris[]> All the time..
[07:15] <Chris[]> Not sure if it makes a difference that I'm trying to install from VMWare..
[07:15] <Chris[]> I don't think it should.
[07:15] <Leeuw> Chris[ maybe the ISO's no good (try downloading again, it happened to me once)
[07:15] <Chris[]> I would, except I tried 2 versions of Debian (small iso, large iso) and the ubuntu, and nothing worked
[07:15] <Leeuw> Chris[]: should make no dif
[07:16] <Leeuw> Chris[]: try dif solutions, but do with RWś for time being, 's cheapurr
[07:16] <Chris[]> RWs?
[07:16] <gad0> Chris[], perform a md5 checksum on iso...
[07:16] <legend2440> Aces|: are you using the LiveCD to try and install?
[07:16] <Aces|> Yes
[07:16] <Chris[]> I've never done stuff with md5, so I'm not sure as to how.
[07:17] <Leeuw> Chris[]: Read/Write cd's, erasable y' know
[07:17] <snarkster> md5sum <file>
[07:17] <Chris[]> Wait, what? md5sum the iso?
[07:17] <gad0> Chris[], https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[07:17] <snarkster> sure they should provide a md5sum
[07:17] <Guest10423> /server irc.relaychat.net /j #main
[07:17] <MRgood> hash can do it too
[07:17] <snarkster> yup yup
[07:18] <legend2440> Aces|: sometimes for certain hardware the alternate cd works better
[07:18] <Leeuw> Chris[]: Try Gnome-burner, or Brasero, that solved my blank-CD eating problem (really, burning CD's with Nautilus has never worked for me)
[07:18] <legend2440> !alternate
[07:18] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[07:18] <Aces|> Ok
[07:18] <Aces|> Ill download it and give it a try. Thanks.
[07:18] <legend2440> Aces|: ok good luck
[07:19] <Leeuw> Aces|: or try Xubuntu; we had problems installing ubuntu, ubuntu alternate, Xubuntu did the trick, later added ubuntu-package, presto !
[07:19] <Leeuw> !xubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[07:20] <wesleysld> ey Rprp o/
[07:20] <Aces|> Ok thanks again.
[07:20] <snarkster> Aces|: you could also do that Kubuntu load if you like KDE
[07:21] <Aces|> This is my first run all around so Ill have to find something that works and go from there.
[07:21] <Chris[]> Leeuw: What about gnomebaker?
[07:21] <snarkster> Aces| are you coming from windows?
[07:21] <Aces|> Yes
[07:22] <snarkster> KDE is very similar to windows
[07:22] <Fa> i love kde 4
[07:22] <snarkster> in layout but is WAY more intergrated than any version of windows
[07:22] <Fa> oh yeah
[07:22] <snarkster> kde4 just isnt stable enough yet
[07:22] <Fa> ubuntu with kde 4 beats xp hands down
[07:22] <djzn> hi... i have a dilema... I have 2GB of RAM.... should I make a 4GB SWAP partition or a 512MB will do just fine? The most critical thing I do in this computer is convert h.264 videos to VOBs...
[07:23] <bazhang> not true kde4 is stable
[07:23] <Aces|> Ok
[07:23] <Fa> yeah i still love
[07:23] <Fa> :P
[07:23] <gad0> snarkster< KDE is very similar to windows > gnome & xfce are similar too ;)
[07:23] <Leeuw> Chris[]: H :-D:-[, yeah, Gnomebaker, that's what I meant (there's no such thing as gnomeburner; well maybe myself... stup-id me)
[07:23] <Fa> kde 4 still has some bugs
[07:23] <snarkster> yah KDE4 is beautiful really..
[07:23] <Chris[]> xD, Leeuw. I believe I usually use gnomebaker, I'm trying it now.
[07:23] <Exteris> djzn, make a 2gb ram partition, in case you want to hibernate, or 1gb if you're low on disk space
[07:24] <snarkster> gad0 this is true that gnome and xfce are similar as well. but KDE almost looks like windows. Makes the newbies feel alot more comfortable I think
[07:24] <djzn> Exteris: I never ever hibernate... in fact, I have never used that feature in 15 years using computers
[07:24] <Fa> i just can't stand gnome
[07:24] <Leeuw> djzn: stick to 2 G, that's the most that can be managed, everything over get's lost in cyberspace...   500 will do fine, I have 4 Gig RAM, use lotsa stuff, never anything gets swapped
[07:24] <Fa> xfce is ok
[07:24] <Exteris> djzn, (i mean suspend to disk)
[07:25] <djzn> no, i don't use that... either the computer is off the plug or running....
[07:25] <mshadle> how do i force a module "e1000e" to be loaded -instead- of "e1000" ? isn't it a modules.conf or modprobe.d line?
[07:25] <snarkster> Fa: I hated gnome and was a strict KDE person, just decided to push the envelope and use gnome. When KDE4 reaches 4.1 or higher Ill switch back
[07:25] <djzn> because a 4GB swap partition never gets written.... 4GB is quite a space....
[07:26] <Fa> cool
[07:26] <Fa> 4.1 suppose to be out in the summer i hear
[07:26] <Exteris> djzn, with hibernate you can suspend all ram to disk, power off, and when you boot again, all apps are restored
[07:26] <gad0> did anyone ever had problems with xine/mplayer color settings & nvidia restricted drivers ?
[07:26] <snarkster> hibernmate just doesnt work well on this laptop.. I lose sound completely
[07:27] <djzn> exteris: will that feature replace the boot process in the future (is replacing?)
[07:28] <Exteris> djzn, i don't know, but i like it, give it a try
[07:28] <Leeuw> Exteris: does hibernate use the swap ?   I didn't know...   but how then can a 4G RAM sleep on 2 G swap ?   Or does it store states instead of entire RAM like Windoze ?
[07:29] <Exteris> Leeuw, you almost never use the full 4G ram for apps, a lot of it is buffer
[07:29] <Exteris> Leeuw, i have 2gb ram, 1gb swap and hibernate works fine
[07:29] <Leeuw> Exteris: OK, so buffers donb't need sleep ;-) ?
[07:30] <Leeuw> Exteris: but are U sure sleepfile ends up on swap ?
[07:30] <PhatKat> I'm trying to backup my system, my upgrade from 7.1 to 8.04 didn't go so well. I'm trying to use the Simple Backup Config but. For some reason no it always backs up to the /var/backup folder where I don't have enough space. I want to send the back up to a usb hard drive. Should I try and mount the hard drive as /var/backup?
[07:30] <Exteris> !hibernate | Leeuw
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Exteris> :@
[07:30] <gad0> actually its a little more complicated then tat...  Leeuw
[07:31] <Leeuw> gad0: tell me, I lovoooove needlez knowledzj
[07:31] <djzn> i read that with 2GB of RAM, it is silly to have a 2GB/4GB swap partition because it never gets written.... That 512MB wil do just FINE.. if not Less....
[07:31] <Chris[]> Leeuw: The ./dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted. [[[Again]]] :(
[07:31] <nsandiman> hi, I have a usb infrared device that I want to use on my machine...can anyone explain to me how to go about it?
[07:32] <Leeuw> Chris[]: and it's always the same file ?
[07:32] <gad0> Leeuw, i have only 1 hand so cant type much... better check on wiki page or google
[07:32] <Ntemis> hello
[07:32] <Ntemis> i search a tool for printing CD/DVD labels
[07:32] <Chris[]> Yep. Would it matter that my processor is AMD, should I be using the other version? I don't think it matters as long as I'm not using 64-bit on a 32-bit..
[07:32] <Ntemis> wich is the best for this?
[07:33] <bazhang> Chris[]: this will be a dual boot or only ubuntu
[07:33] <MRgood> hello
[07:33] <Leeuw> gad0: sure, no sweat, I had already scheduled it in my downtime for work this afternoon... thanx for hinting me thoug, now I know thereś a new thing to be learned, and that makes a good day, right ?   right.
[07:34] <Chris[]> bazhang: This is through VMWare
[07:35] <Gokee2> Will rm -rf /var/cache/* hurt anything?  I mean badly?
[07:35] <bazhang> Chris[]: through vmware? what do you mean? you want to install from vmware onto a harddrive, or just run the distro in vmware--what is the guest os
[07:35] <Chris[]> The guest os is ubuntu
[07:35] <Leeuw> Chris[]: well, maybe there is a problem with the virtual install, but my guess is the ISO if it's always same file; try a different mirror for download ?   (But use RW' s, don't spend all those blanks on tracing a problem)
[07:35] <legend2440> PhatKat: if you choose "Use custom backup settings" option you can choose where to put the backup under the 'Destination' tab
[07:35] <Chris[]> I don't have any RW's lol
[07:36] <bazhang> Chris[]: not sure of your final goal; please clarify
[07:36] <gad0> Gokee2, wat exactly are you trying todo ?
[07:37] <PhatKat> Legend244C: Ya tried that no matter where I set it it always goes to the default /var/backup
[07:37] <Leeuw> Chris[]: go get some then, before you use up your whole stock !
[07:37] <Chris[]> I currently have a system with Debian on it, and I wish to create a virtual machine through vmware. This requires that I insert an ubuntu live cd and use the client software to go through the installer.
[07:37] <Chris[]> My final goal, pretty much.. get ubuntu to install :P
[07:37] <simon_> Gokee2: aptitude clean? if you're trying to clean out your apt cache
[07:38] <PhatKat> I also just tryed to mount my usb hd to /var/backup didn't quite work out now I can't mount it period.
[07:38] <Gokee2> gad0, My hard drive is full so I need to free up a little room to let a dist-upgrade finish
[07:38] <legend2440> PhatKat: thats strange. i've only used sbackup once. i use partimage now. works very well for me
[07:38] <chris062689> OH WOW, theres a rumor The Orange Box is being ported to Linux... sweet.
[07:38] <gad0> Gokee2, then type sudo apt-get clean
[07:38] <bazhang> Chris[]: was that meant for me? if you do not use my nick I will miss it; am helping another user in seperate channel
[07:39] <Chris[]> Sorry, yes it was, bazhang.
[07:39] <PhatKat> I'll try partimage is it in the repo?
[07:39] <zero__> whats the ubuntu 8.04 beta chat channel?
[07:39] <Gokee2> gad0,  apt-get dist-upgrade is in the middle of running right now so that won`t work
[07:39] <monkeybritches> !hardy
[07:39] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:39] <zero__> thanks monkeybritches
[07:39] <monkeybritches> You're welcome
[07:39] <zcat[1]> http://pastebin.com/m7c35e60f
[07:40] <Gokee2> For that matter I better not clear apt`s cache....  :/
[07:40] <bazhang> Chris[]: you have the livecd running? or you already have ubuntu installed and want to install to another machine? not clear here
[07:40] <gad0> Gokee2, then proply del each package mnanually which isnt required by dist-upgrade... lol
[07:40] <Gokee2> Apt is the bigest thing in cache
[07:41] <Gokee2> Is there anything I can delete?
[07:41] <Chris[]> I have Debian installed, and am trying to install Ubuntu on a virtual machine, pretty much it's own partition. Kind of like a dual boot.
[07:41] <legend2440> PhatKat: i think so but in order to backup your main partition you have to boot from a cd that has partimage on it so the partition is not mounted as you back it up. I boot from system rescue cd to do backups
[07:41] <Ntemis> please someone tell me a good cd/dvd cover program
[07:41] <elmargol> Ntemis, inkscape
[07:41] <Ntemis> Please can someone tell me a good cd/dvd cover program
[07:41] <JohnRobert> is xmms not in ubuntu 8.04?
[07:41] <friedtofu> cd/dvd cover?..
[07:42] <Sonja> JohnRobert ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:42] <legend2440> Ntemis:  glabels
[07:42] <icesword> !info xmms 8.04
[07:42] <ubotu> xmms (source: xmms): Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB
[07:42] <icesword> !info xmms hardy
[07:42] <gad0> Gokee2, you should have prior knowledge which package is required and which is not... tough
[07:42] <Ntemis> legend i saw glabels it says for bussines cards
[07:42] <ubotu> Package xmms does not exist in hardy
[07:42] <RussellGee> xmms is replaced with xmms2
[07:42] <legend2440> Ntemis: it also does the round cd/dvd labels
[07:43] <PhatKat> Legend244C: Thank I guess I'll try that to save my system. After you copy it can you remount it after a fresh install?
[07:43] <Ntemis> legent:will do for downloaded dvd/cd covers?
[07:43] <icesword> !info xmms2 hardy
[07:43] <ubotu> xmms2 (source: xmms2): Client/server based media player system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2DrJekyll-4ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 10 kB, installed size 56 kB
[07:43] <Leeuw> Chris[]: good luck, hope to hear some day what the prob waz...   have to go now. . . later !8-)
[07:43] <Chris[]> Later.
[07:43] <Gokee2> gad0, Ya...  That would take a while but I guess it would work...
[07:43] <Ntemis> legend: am inerested foe the out front and back labels of the dvd/cd
[07:43] <friedtofu> does xmms2 still use X as its gui - ugly? :/
[07:43] <bazhang> Chris[]: how about unetbootin?
[07:44] <Chris[]> Haven't tried, never done it before.
[07:44] <Ntemis> sorry for my bad english i am from a night shift :(
[07:44] <legend2440> Ntemis: yes you can copy paste downloaded cd/dvd jpg's
[07:44] <Chris[]> @baxhang
[07:44] <Chris[]> er, bazhang* darn it lol
[07:44] <Ntemis> legend: will do frond and back labels of cd/dvd?
[07:44] <buboolu> does anyone use AWN (avant-window-navigator)?  I'm doing the whole OS X look and I've also installed global_menu ... I read that AWN should show the "Places" and "System" menu in the menu applet, but I'm not seeing it.  Any suggestions?
[07:45] <bazhang> Chris[]: /msg ubotu wubi then check the ubuntuforums link for more on unetbootin
[07:45] <legend2440> Ntemis: it does them too. but i haven't played with that much. i just make the round labels usually
[07:45] <Ntemis> i see
[07:45] <Ntemis> thanks legend
[07:45] <gad0> Gokee2, yes... the package which were listed after running dist-upgrade will be listed... so other than these packages in apt cache can be deleted
[07:46] <Ntemis> glabels in synaptic?
[07:46] <Ntemis> or i have to build from source
[07:46] <newusr> hi
[07:46] <legend2440> Ntemis: in synaptic
[07:46] <bazhang> !info glabels
[07:46] <ubotu> glabels (source: glabels): label, business card and media cover creation program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 335 kB, installed size 1024 kB
[07:47] <newusr> updated my ubuntu and wireless isnt working anymore with the new kern image ? tried the forums but nothing worked for me
[07:47] <Gokee2> gad0, Every pack on my system was upgraded...  I got it though I sorted by size and got rid of kde-icons and a few others now I have 106m free.  Thanks!  :)
[07:47] <Ntemis> thanks
[07:48] <Ntemis> goodnight all!
[07:48] <legend2440> PhatKat: not sure what you mean. partimage makes a clone of the partition so if there was a problem mounting a drive before you image it the problem will still be there after you restore the partition with partimage
[07:49] <bazhang> newusr: this is gutsy or what
[07:49] <newusr> yeah
[07:49] <bullgard4> "~$ lsmod | grep 8139; 8139cp 24704 0; 8139too 27520 0." I would like to prevent that one of the 2 modules will be loaded because after a while after booting my computer looses its LAN connection. How to prevent 8139cp from being loaded at boot time?  (There is no modules.conf and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.)
[07:49] <newusr> devel*
[07:49] <bazhang> newusr: what is the kernel--and what is the chipset of the card
[07:50] <Chris[]> bazhang: I am going to try from a torrent before I mess with that, which if this doesn't work I'll try tomorrow.
[07:50] <newusr> shall i use the pastebin ?
[07:50] <legend2440> PhatKat: oh isee what you mean. yes you can
[07:50] <bazhang> newusr: for what? just the one line for the kernel and card chipset is fine here
[07:51] <newusr> ok
[07:51] <prashant___> hi does any one know how to change the prgress screen that comes up as soon as we boot ubuntu ;) please ask if need more clearifications
[07:52] <bazhang> prashant___: the usplash?
[07:52] <newusr> 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[07:52] <bazhang> newusr: and what kernel
[07:53] <prashant___> bahzhang i dont realy know its name but u know it comes even when we boot a live cd ( the first image that we see with a progress pipe of booting status)
[07:53] <[LMM]Iowahc> hy there, anyone knows a good script, which deletes folders without mp3|mp4|ogg|wav files in it?
[07:53] <PhatKat> Legend244C: OK thank I'm going to copy the whole partition do a clean install then mount it back and copy off what is need also this way I can set a local source for my repo. I just wanted to run it by someone before I went and killed my system also the system rescue is almost done downloading now.
[07:53] <prashant___> bahzhang: i dont realy know its name but u know it comes even when we boot a live cd ( the first image that we see with a progress pipe of booting status)
[07:54] <Fivesheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto [prashant___]
[07:54] <bazhang> prashant___: and what change did you have in mind?
[07:54] <newusr> 2.6.24-15-generic
[07:54] <newusr> 	Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-15-generic
[07:55] <bazhang> newusr: that is the hardy kernel, but you are using gutsy? any special reason for that?
[07:55] <newusr> nopes
[07:55] <prashant___> bazhang: i saw some options on gnome-look and they are nice ;) i shall switch to them . BTW when i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu the splash screen reads KUBUNTU which i want to get rid of
[07:55] <newusr> i just updated the system and it happened
[07:55] <newusr> :)
[07:56] <newusr> is it possible to get wireless working again ?
[07:56] <legend2440> PhatKat: with partimage you can only restore the whole partition. its not like drive image that had a browser where you could select certain files or directories to restore
[07:56] <bazhang> newusr: what does lsb_release -a report
[07:56] <siimo> yello
[07:57] <PhatKat> Ok well I guess I keep trying to mount my usb hd in the /var
[07:57] <bazhang> prashant___: then boot using gdm and not kdm (in sessions)
[07:57] <newusr> 8.4 hardy !
[07:57] <newusr> Description:	Ubuntu hardy (development branch)
[07:57] <newusr>
[07:58] <prashant___> bazhang: yeah thats what i do ... but it still reads KUBUNTU on the progress barr
[08:00] <masterzulu> bom dia
[08:00] <icesword> ?
[08:01] <masterzulu> alguem pode me ajudar a instalar codecs w32 para dapper
[08:02] <icesword> english, man
[08:02] <bazhang> !br | masterzulu
[08:02] <ubotu> masterzulu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[08:02] <masterzulu> no
[08:02] <bazhang> newusr: install linux-ubuntu-modules and see if that clears it up
[08:05] <newusr> i gotta quit the update manager though lots of updates
[08:05] <bazhang> newusr: dont do that
[08:05] <bazhang> newusr: just wait until it does its work
[08:05] <newusr> yeah i will
[08:06] <newusr> :)
[08:07] <newusr> bazhang, its installed when i checked the SYnaptic
[08:07] <bazhang> newusr: also on router try unhiding the essid if it is set to that (when the updates are finished, or course)
[08:08] <newusr> version 2.6.22
[08:08] <newusr> its not hidden
[08:08] <newusr> shall i reinstall it ?
[08:09] <bazhang> newusr: those are not the correct modules for hardy; wait until the updates are finished then install new ones
[08:09] <newusr> what command shall i use or just the Synaptic
[08:10] <newusr> its ok i resumed the updates now
[08:13] <newusr> am supposed to use the wired connection here at the cafe and i stole the cable and got the ip config. hehhe i guess the cafe owner is gonna kick me
[08:13] <newusr> sorry the wirelesss connection :S
[08:13] <newusr> heh
[08:15] <bazhang> newusr: on further reflection it should be updated if you already have it --best bet is to finish updates then check to see that the modules match the kernel (which will be -16 by now)
[08:16] <Orbixx> Problem: Firestarter hangs on boot, causing it to hang. I have to intervene for it to continue boot. Also, due to it hanging, my network connection remains completely down until I stop it. Any ideas?
[08:16] <newusr> kewl
[08:16] <scone> I'm trying to get my computer to mount a separate partition, but the walk-through from ubuntu wasn't helpful
[08:16] <newusr> some guys told me to remove it but i guess that am in love with it :)
[08:17] <newusr> got a current bsd on the other laptop ;] bs is kewl but it seem like i just cant figure some stuff on ubuntu am either stupid or its way easier than bsd devel edition
[08:19] <Rainarrow> Hello guys, what's the best way of sharing files between 2 Ubuntu machines in a LAN?
[08:19] <MEtaLpREs> just make the folders network shares
[08:19] <Rainarrow> Because I heard samba is best for sharing between Windows and Linux boxes
[08:19] <Rainarrow> so if I have two Ubuntu boxes do I have a better choice?
[08:20] <MEtaLpREs> then the folders will be visable to any other machine on the network
[08:20] <icesword> !share
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Rainarrow> !share
[08:21] <scone> I need help editing my fstab
[08:21] <jburd> Rainarrow: SSH.
[08:22] <Rainarrow> MEtaLpREs, thanks, but what's the CLI equivalent of the operation? Since I may want to exchange some .conf files between two my two boxes, and sudo is more convenient than gksudo for me
[08:22] <jburd> Rainarrow: scp, sftp
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> Alright. I was trying to setup firestarter so it automatically began at boot.  I followed the instructions on the FAQ page only to discover I couldn't save the sudoers file.  So, I saved it elsewhere, then moved/overwrote the original with the edited one. It still doesn't work, and I can't edit it normally it says it should be "0440" when it is "0680"
[08:22] <MEtaLpREs> i dont do anything in command line unless i absolutely have to so i really dont know
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> eRRR
[08:22] <AdrianStrays> It should be "0440" when it is "0644"
[08:23] <Rainarrow> MEtaLpREs, ok, thanks
[08:23] <Silicium> hi all
[08:23] <Silicium> does likewise support PAM?
[08:23] <Rainarrow> jburd, thanks, would you mind explain a little more? of course I could just google around if otherwise
[08:24] <Rainarrow> jburd, I've not heard anything about scp
[08:24] <jburd> Rainarrow: SSH is used for secure access to resources.  scp is a tool to copy files over SSH.
[08:24] <Rainarrow> jburd, ok, so I need to setup a SSH server on one of my Linux boxes right
[08:24] <jburd> Rainarrow: You will need SSH server instances on both computers if you wish to access either of them from any one.
[08:24] <jburd> sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:25] <AdrianStrays> Can anyone help me?
[08:25] <Rainarrow> jburd, ok thanks, I'll google for a howto on SSH
[08:25] <jburd> Rainarrow: You can then access both computers using Nautilus or the command line.
[08:25] <ayah> Just one question right now. If I install the RC, will the update app let me upgrade to the final when it is released? Or will I have to reinstall to be completely up to date?
[08:25] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: you did all this to get firestarter to work at boot?
[08:26] <jburd> Rainarrow: Try this first:  Places > Connect to Server... > Service Type: SSH
[08:26] <AdrianStrays> Yep
[08:26] <Silicium> ooh
[08:26] <AdrianStrays> Adding it to just the sessions doesn't work.
[08:26] <Silicium> pam will works
[08:26] <bouma> satelite uplink bling :P, cyaz
[08:26] <jburd> Rainarrow: It will create a network mount on your Desktop.  Just click and you'll be able to copy files pretty easily.
[08:26] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: any reason to have the gui start on boot?
[08:26] <Tweaker> Ok, I got a quick question about Ultima. How would I get it to load on ubuntu?
[08:27] <newusr> ill cut the update and try to dial out using some kinda vpn
[08:27] <newusr> its damn filtered in the UAE
[08:27] <bazhang> Tweaker: ultima? is that a game or what
[08:27] <Rainarrow> jburd: I'm trying, waiting for apt-get to finish
[08:27] <bullgard4> "~$ lsmod | grep 8139; 8139cp 24704 0; 8139too 27520 0." I would like to prevent that one of the 2 modules will be loaded because after a while after booting my computer looses its LAN connection. How to prevent 8139cp from being loaded at boot time?  (There is no modules.conf and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.)
[08:27] <Tweaker> Yea, a very old game. Made back in the 90's
[08:27] <Rainarrow> Tweaker, Ultima? the game?
[08:27] <Tweaker> Yes
[08:27] <ayah> If I install the RC, will the update app let me upgrade to the final when it is released? Or will I have to reinstall to be completely up to date?
[08:27] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, Because as near as I can tell it doesn't start unless I activate it manually? I like to out either way
[08:27] <ayah> thansk
[08:28] <ECKZ> woo
[08:28] <bazhang> Tweaker: via dosbox? check www.abandonia.com for abandonware
[08:28] <Tweaker> thanks, I didnt no I could run DosBox on Linux
[08:29] <Tweaker> Well I guess I'll go and check that out and happy late 420
[08:29] <ng0n> hey.. when i click down an ap.. it goes away completely !  not to the panel !?!?!?  what's wrong ?
[08:29] <Rainarrow> jburd, thanks, it works very well
[08:29] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: you know it is only the gui, right? that if the gui is running or not iptables will still start
[08:29] <Rainarrow> jburd, and it's just what I want
[08:29] <jburd> Rainarrow: np
[08:30] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, either way I'd like to fix the sudoers file, how do I do that?
[08:30] <bazhang> ayah: sure you can install it now (or whenever before final) and then just keep updating
[08:31] <_2> oh<  i have an issue.    when i start xorg the keyboard stops working propperly.   anyone that might be able to put a fingure on why that happens ?
[08:31] <bazhang> AdrianStrays: that sounds serious, not sure how to recommend something
[08:31] <ayah> bazhang: I see, many thanks
[08:31] <Greenbox> hey, does anyone know a workaround for the bug that kills torrents over wireless in ubuntu 7.10?
[08:31] <bazhang> Greenbox: what bug
[08:31] <AdrianStrays> bazhang, Alright, I post on the forums, thanks.
[08:32] <Greenbox> bazhang, a lot of people can't get torrents working over wireless in 7.10
[08:32] <bazhang> Greenbox: you have an actual launchpad bug number?
[08:32] <Greenbox> bazhang: let me relocate ite
[08:32] <Greenbox> *it
[08:33] <bazhang> _2: when you start xorg? you mean when your computer starts up or what
[08:34] <_2> oh<  i have an issue.    when i start xorg the keyboard stops working propperly.   anyone that might be able to put a fingure on why that happens ?      this is an LTS dapper custom install.
[08:34] <_2> bazhang no.  when i start xorg.
[08:34] <bazhang> ng0n: click down? what exactly do you mean
[08:35] <bazhang> _2: how do you 'start' xorg
[08:35] <monkeybritches> How would you define 'properly'?
[08:35] <ng0n> bazhang - click down = minimize window.
[08:36] <_2> any of several ways.   startx   X & startkde     gdm      pick your take.
[08:36] <jeffimperial> Hi.. how do you turn off the default "screen saver" for ubuntu?
[08:36] <ng0n> when i minimize i get no 'icon' in the panel.
[08:36] <ng0n> the program just vanishes.
[08:36] <hellmtire> erm
[08:36] <_2> @ bazhang ^     sorry i didn't prefix your nick.
[08:37] <monkeybritches> jeffimperial: Right click on desktop > Screensaver > Uncheck 'Start automatically'
[08:38] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: hey man.. i don't have "Screensaver" when I right click the desktop.. just "Change Desktop Backgroun"
[08:38] <_2> bazhang i can't drop back to a console from xorg without i first use the magic sysRQ to reset the keyboard   the ctrl key doesn't work from within xorg otherwise
[08:39] <monkeybritches> Sorry, I'm using KDE, so I guess it's different
[08:39] <ng0n> bazhang: when i minimize a program it doesn't go down to the panel.. it just vanishes ?  why ?
[08:39] <monkeybritches> Anyone with Gnome is welcome to answer that :)
[08:39] <jeffimperial> monkeybritches: Yeah.. I'm on Gnome..
[08:39] <friedtofu> ng0n make sure you ahve a panel that lists your task programs
[08:39] <friedtofu> ng0n you might have accidently removed it
[08:39] <_2> ng0n pager applet not running ?
[08:39] <jeffimperial> Anyone know how to turn off default screensaver in ubuntu-gnome?
[08:40] <friedtofu> ng0n try using alt + tab to see if it brings it up
[08:40] <ng0n> friedtofu: i got a panel on the bottom of the screen with trash can, 2 screens, showing the programs in the screens.
[08:40] <bazhang> _2: that sounds really awful; what kb is this? bluetooth or MS or somesuch?
[08:41] <_2> bazhang nope.  standard 104 key   ps2
[08:41] <bazhang> _2: ps2? same behaviour with a usb kb as well?
[08:41] <friedtofu> ng0n - so the one with the two screens is your pager/for your workstation ... try right clicking on the panel and add + and then try to find something that has something remotely with the task applications
[08:42]  * _2 doesn't have a usb keyboard to test that...
[08:42] <friedtofu> *workspaces
[08:42] <Rainarrow> jeff, System->Pref->Screen Saver=>uncheck "Activate screensaver when this computer is idle"
[08:42] <friedtofu> ng0n - :/ sorry i cant be more specific, i'm using xfce
[08:42] <_2> bazhang idk ...
[08:42] <friedtofu> ng0n but does alt + tab bring up your windows you minimized?
[08:43] <ng0n> friedtofu: no.  alt + doesn nothing.
[08:43] <jeffimperial> Rainarrow: Thanks.. Why does Ubuntu regard my computer idle when i'm into a full screen game after 10min?
[08:43] <bazhang> _2: that is really odd; got a ps2 here as well as usb and no worries either way--this is gutsy, hardy or what
[08:43] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, .....maybe all the mouse/keybd events was captured by the game?
[08:43] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, so GNOME received no events at all during your game
[08:43] <kevin__> jeffimperial: that happened to me too, i don't know why so ijust disabled the screen saver
[08:44] <_2> bazhang dapper
[08:44] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, what's the name by the way
[08:44] <ng0n> friedric: i minimized rhythem box... and it still is playing..... but there is no way to get it back up.
[08:44] <Rainarrow> jeffimperial, ok I mean what game
[08:44] <Morph3us> Hi.. i need some help.. i have lost my data.. my partition is ext3.. how can i recover it? it's possible? :S
[08:44] <_2> Morph3us testdisk ?
[08:44] <taricris> hi, everybody
[08:44] <ng0n> bummer.
[08:45] <jeffimperial> any game i've tried so far that uses up the fullscreen, i think
[08:45] <ng0n> rebooted.  still not working.
[08:45] <_2> !info testdisk | Morph3us
[08:45] <bazhang> _2: ah dapper; seem to recall some ancient bug related to that, though it has been a while since using dapper--best bet is to check launchpad as that sounds like a really severe bug
[08:45] <ubotu> morph3us: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[08:45] <friedtofu> hm... yeah. i really dont know
[08:45] <jeffimperial> amaricasarmy, gl-117, battle for wesnoth
[08:45] <kevin__> it happened to me while playing tremulous, would be a good idea to see if it happens with other games
[08:45] <Morph3us> _2 i just run testdisk, but says that my disk is OK.. how can i recover my data?
[08:45] <ng0n> freidtofu.  thanks all the same :)
[08:45] <taricris> hi guys. I need help to install .bin file
[08:45] <friedtofu> ng0n maybe try killall rhythmbox
[08:47] <bazhang> ng0n: you deleted your pager?
[08:47] <Morph3us> ubotu exists another tool better? What about sysrescuecd?
[08:47] <_2> Morph3us ?     where did you get "testdisk" ?    the testdisk app in the repos should by default give you the option to search for deleted partitions and restore them.
[08:47] <ndavid> Does anyone know the name of the process that plays an mp3 in the background when you hover the mouse over the icon?
[08:47] <Rainarrow> Anyone here running hardy? My hardy RC would occasionally consume 100% CPU by the hald-inpu process
[08:47] <Morph3us> _2 sudo aptitude install testdisk
[08:47] <Ademan> has anyone setup zope 3 on ubuntu? i installed the zope3 package and assumed i'd be able to just navigate to localhost:8080 (the ubuntu docs suggested 9673 as well, but neither worked)  if it helps i've got apache installed and running right now, as i understand it zope has it's own http server, maybe the two are conflicting?
[08:47] <Morph3us> _2 in fact, i format my disk
[08:48] <bazhang> the hardy channel is thataway-----------> #ubuntu+1
[08:48] <_2> Morph3us then forget it.
[08:48] <jeffimperial> thanks fellas.. hope someone figures out why the screensaver prob..
[08:48] <jeffimperial> bye
[08:48] <Morph3us> _2 i am screwed?
[08:48] <bazhang> Morph3us: seems likely
[08:48] <_2> Morph3us pretty much.  unless you want to spend days searching by hand.
[08:49] <_2> for each file...
[08:49] <Morph3us> bazhang, _2 have you tested grescue?
[08:49] <_aeGIs> Does anyone know how to change the icon associated with mime/msword and mime/rtf ?  Clicking on the icon in properties just changes it for that individual file.  Please help.  I changed the association to abiword, and it opens fine.  The only thing is it used the OO icon still.
[08:50] <bazhang> Morph3us: if the data is really important you could pay the pros to rescue it for you--not cheap though
[08:50] <_2> Morph3us on a partitioned and formated disk.   no.   but i dont know of anything that can recover that.
[08:51] <Barbarello> Hi! Is here some SLAX channal or not? Give an address please!
[08:51] <bazhang> !irc | Barbarello
[08:51] <ubotu> Barbarello: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[08:51] <Morph3us> bazhang, in my country (Venezuela) i don't know any pros can do that (3rd world dude) xD
[08:52] <_aeGIs> Does anyone know how to change the icon associated with mime/msword and mime/rtf ?  Clicking on the icon in properties just changes it for that individual file.  Please help.  I changed the association to abiword, and it opens fine.  The only thing is it used the OO icon still.
[08:52] <ng0n> ok.. just lost the windows list - had to add it back.
[08:53] <ng0n> !#@!$#  silly me.
[08:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about silly me. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:53] <ng0n> thanks friedtoffu
[08:53] <bazhang> Morph3us: sorry, let me google for a bit
[08:53] <Morph3us> _2 i will test grescue, but, i believe you, i think that lost my data
[08:54] <_2> luck with it.   one can always hope
[08:54] <asbjorn> hi guys, does anyone in here have a clever way to get a borderless workspace-switcher?
[08:55] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howtorecover-and-undelete-text-file-in.html Morph3us
[08:55] <Morph3us> thanks bazhang :D
[08:56] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery and here http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p21.html Morph3us
[08:56] <KOJV> How come there are none of the normal (Windows?) resolutions available in Xubuntu? All like random frequencies... such as 1600x1200 @ 68 Hz.
[08:56] <MagicDuck> hi, I am having a small problem with screen refresh rate: I set everything fine with "nvidia-settings" and save the xorg.conf file, but when I login again as my user, System>Preferences>Screen Resolution apparently tells me I am going at 50 Hz instead of 75 Hz
[08:56] <KOJV> I'd like to know why two of my six Win partitions ask for my password then won't be mounted anyway?
[08:56] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=710375 from this link Morph3us
[08:57] <tarandus> I have Dapper in my Thinkpad T22 (256 RAM, 900MHz Pentium III M), would you recommend staying with it? Which one would work fastest and demand the least resources, Dapper, Edgy, Feisty or Gutsy?
[08:57] <bazhang> tarandus: any way to up the ram on that?
[08:57] <tarandus> bazhang: no cheap or fast ways that I know of
[08:58] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:58] <MagicDuck> tarandus: probably Dapper is fastest, if you want even lighter, install xfce
[08:58] <unimatrix9> can i black list a driver from loading when running a livecd?