[08:01] <dholbach> hey hey
[08:08] <svij> morning!
[18:51] <mhall119> svij: can you setup an on-air hangout for the UbuCon session? I'm still hosting one from the last hour
[18:52] <svij> mhall119: yep
[18:52] <mhall119> thanks svij
[18:54] <Mister_Q> I can't be there :( I'm forced to have fun at our company event :D Say hello from me
[18:54] <svij> we'll have fun without you, don't worry, Mister_Q
[18:54] <Mister_Q> :D
[18:54] <Mister_Q> I'll follow the session on IRC
[20:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[21:05] <svij> for the UbuCon Europe people: Schedule is now (hopefully) final. We've added a museum tour on friday 15:30 which is limited to 20 persons. More details are here: https://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-europe/schedule/


[07:57] <asac> Unit193: i work with him?
[07:57] <asac> Canonical?
[07:57] <Unit193> Sorry, I meant that you co-maintain a package, connman.  I suppose that doesn't even mean you've talked once.
[07:58] <asac> Unit193: oh, i have talked to him
[07:58] <asac> Unit193: didnt know the context
[07:58] <asac> he showed up on IRC and we chatted :)
[07:58] <asac> now i fi could remember his nick i would be good
[08:00] <Unit193> scientes isn't registered, but did he use that?
[08:00] <asac> sounds familiar
[08:00] <asac> i am grepping logs
[08:01] <asac>  wonder if that conversation was 2013
[08:01] <asac> 2014 didnt have a match
[08:02] <Unit193> Ouch.
[08:03] <asac> Unit193: does he not answer mail?
[08:04] <Unit193> It's not *that* important, just was going (well, may email) to contact and see if he was interested in cmst (Initial: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/cmst.git)  I try to contact via IRC if I can, have had much better luck with people responding (And no, it's not "can you do $foo for me?" emails. :P )
[08:20] <Unit193> Make sense?


[00:00] <wells_> hiya
[00:02] <wells_> you like bugs
[00:02] <wells_> here one for ya
[00:02] <wells_> Any one to help with Ubuntu 8.04 and firefox -- wen I get to a specific web page ( will send page url in private) my session is close out and i'm returned to loging page!!!!! how and why a web page can turn off my session ?
[00:06] <wells_> Any one to help with Ubuntu 8.04 and firefox -- wen I get to a specific web page ( will send page url in private) my session is close out and i'm returned to loging page!!!!! how and why a web page can turn off my session ?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> bug 232547
[12:51] <ruiboon> hi. i am confused with the sponsorship stuff. when a patch (simple string change) has been attached to a bug report, does the relevant sponsors need to be subscribed?
[12:56] <thekorn> ruiboon, this might be a question for #ubuntu-motu
[12:56] <ruiboon> thekorn: ok. thanks
[13:40] <Iulian> Hello
[13:43] <jjesse> hello
[13:46] <Iulian> Hey jjesse
[14:06] <Iulian> Hey pedro, bddebian.
[14:07] <pedro_> hey Iulian, how's going?
[14:08] <bddebian> Boo
[14:08] <bddebian> Hi Iulian
[14:38] <Iulian> pedro_: I'm doing good. I just had lunch. Thanks for asking.
[14:38] <Iulian> pedro_: How about you? Having fun there? :)
[14:43] <pedro_> Iulian: i'm ok, thanks. yep having a great week ;-)
[14:50] <Iulian> Awesome
[19:57] <emgent> heya
[20:32] <marnanel> emgent: hey
[20:33] <emgent> hi marnanel
[20:57] <Balachmar> I don't know if I should file this as a bug, but in hardy I cannot find the package libpam-keyring anymore...
[21:15] <saivann> warp10 : ping
[21:17] <geser> Balachmar: looks it got renamed to libpam-gnome-keyring
[21:18] <Balachmar> geser: but it doesn't seem to work the same. first the was a tool: libpam-keyring-tool and now I cannot find that anymore
[21:18] <Balachmar> pam-keyring-tool


[11:03] <lifeless> kylem: up?
[01:42] <kylem> lifeless, am now.
[01:45] <lifeless> kylem: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88899 is really painful for me.
[01:45] <lifeless> kylem: anything you guys can do would rock, also anything I should do to up the chances of you doing it
[01:46] <lifeless> jamesh thought it might be linux listening to ACPI from the hardware, and if so that would suck :(
[01:48] <mjg59> Unlikely
[01:55] <lifeless> mjg59: apparently salgado's laptop did this in feisty: the IBM ACPI stuff set a throttle when the battery was removed, or something.
[01:55] <lifeless> you'd need to ask him or jamesh for details though.
[01:58] <mjg59> I'm not clear what you mean by IBM ACPI stuff
[01:59] <lifeless> neither am I
[02:00] <salgado> lifeless, ?
[02:01] <lifeless> salgado: jamesh was telling me about your ACPI kernel patching
[02:01] <lifeless> salgado: and I have a possibly similar thing, but nowhere near enough context to point mjg59 in the right direction.
[02:01] <lifeless> so...
[02:01] <lifeless> :)
[02:02] <salgado> hmmm. there's a bug which is still open, but I'm pretty sure it's a bug in my BIOS
[02:02] <salgado> let me find it
[02:02] <jamesh> salgado: the fix you did for your problem with the speed being limited with the battery out
[02:02] <jamesh> salgado: I mentioned to lifeless that his speed limiting problem might be related
[02:02] <jamesh> (i.e. related to bad info from the ACPI code)
[02:03] <salgado> well, the fix was basically to ignore the BIOS when it tells the kernel to do stupid things. :)
[02:03] <salgado> jamesh, lifeless, http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7060
[02:05] <jamesh> lifeless: so you probably want to check if /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq is lower than expected
[02:05] <lifeless> jamesh: that was fine
[02:05] <lifeless> jamesh: no it wasn't!
[02:05] <lifeless> its reporting 6000000 there
[02:05] <lifeless> rather than 11000000
[02:06] <lifeless> there are lots of similarly named files :(
[02:07] <salgado> lifeless, it may also be the same issue Ingo describes in http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/1/16/120
[02:07] <salgado> (in case you haven't seen it)
[02:07] <lifeless> I dont track kernel foo - so I haven't
[02:08] <salgado> I don't either, until it slows down my processor to half of its speed. ;)
[02:09] <lifeless> cool
[02:10] <lifeless> night all
[02:16] <kylem> lifeless, ok. that patch was merged, i'll slurp that in for you.
[02:16] <kylem> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4233dec749a3519069d9390561b5636a75c7579
[02:33] <kylem> lifeless, salgado, jamesh: we already have that reversion in ubuntu-2.6.git
[04:15] <zul> BenC_: I got a patch for you to look at for breezy but Ill show you it tonight when I get home
[04:29] <Eruantalon> breezy?
[04:32] <BenC> zul: Ok
[04:33] <mkrufky> did you guys hear that ivtv is being merged into mainline now?
[04:33] <mkrufky> it's been a long time coming :-)
[04:34] <kylem> mkrufky, what's ivtv?
[04:35] <mkrufky> hardware analog video mpeg encoder driver, based on the iTV cx2341x encoder
[04:35] <mkrufky> it's the "preferred mpeg encoder" driver
[04:36] <mkrufky> i believe it is packaged with the ubuntu kernel in the "out-of-tree" driver section
[04:36] <mkrufky> anyway...  you guys wont have to worry about making ivtv packages and / or compat-porting that driver any longer
[04:39] <kylem> spiffyo.
[04:40] <mkrufky> :-)
[05:30] <dholbach> hey guys
[05:30] <kylem> holy holbach!
[05:30] <dholbach> pkl_: do you want me to attach  http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/mmc-KILL.txt  to bug 82680? that's what happened, when I tried to  modprobe mmc_block  and inserted an SD card into my x40
[05:31] <pkl_> dholbach: yes, please do.
[05:31] <dholbach> if you want a separate bug for that, I can do that too
[05:31] <dholbach> (dunno if that's the same cause or not)
[05:32] <pkl_> dholbach: you have a TI mmc card reader?
[05:32] <dholbach> pkl_: how do I check?
[05:33] <dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$ lspci -v | grep Texas
[05:33] <dholbach> daniel@lovegood:~$
[05:33] <dholbach> doesn't look like
[05:33] <dholbach> 02:00.1 Generic system peripheral [0805] : Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSP
[05:33] <dholbach> ro Host Adapter (rev 13)
[05:33] <dholbach>         Subsystem: IBM Thinkpad X40
[05:33] <dholbach>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17
[05:33] <dholbach>         Memory at d0221000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
[05:33] <pkl_> what does lsmod say? do "lsmod | grep tifm"
[05:34] <dholbach> empty
[05:35] <pkl_> If you've got a TI mmc card supported by Linux, it should come up with either "tifm_7xx1" or "tifm_sd"
[05:37] <pkl_> Can you attach the output of lscpi, lsmod, and  dmesg somewhere, that way I can see what you do have.  Best if you raise a bug, #82680 is (I think) TI mmc card specfic.  I'll check.
[05:38] <dholbach> ok, I'll file a new one and let you know.
[05:38] <pkl_> ok, thanks.
[05:38] <dholbach> the SD reader worked in edgy
[05:39] <pkl_> There seems to be a lot of regressions regarding mmc cards.  Still working on finding out why... :-)
[05:43] <pkl_> dholbach:  "Generic system peripheral [0805]  " is supported by the sdhci driver.  It's likely a problem there.  I'll know more when I've looked at the output from the various commands.
[05:43] <dholbach> ok nice, *attaching info*
[05:46] <dholbach> pkl_: bug 88992
[05:46] <dholbach> if you need any more info let me know
[05:47] <pkl_> dholbach: OK.  WIll do.
[05:47] <dholbach> gracias :-)
[07:21] <gilligan_> hi
[07:23] <gilligan_> I have a question regarding the patch made to super_umount which has been patched from super_umount(struct super_block*) to super_umount(struct vfsmount*, int flags) .. flags seems to be 0 in most cases -  I have some sources that rely on the old prototype. I can easily add the integer argument, but is there a straight forward way to patch the sources to  use the vfsmount isntead of the super_block ?
[07:23] <gilligan_> i.e can I somehow find the vfsmount struct that the super_block belongs to ? then the patching would be easy
[07:58] <lifeless> kylem: its in git, is it in a package ?
[07:59] <kylem> yes.
[07:59] <kylem> it's been in all of them since we merged 2.6.20
[08:11] <lifeless> so, its not that then.
[08:13] <salgado> lifeless, is it a regression?
[08:14] <kylem> sounds like it.
[08:15] <lifeless> salgado: from edgy yes,
[08:17] <salgado> lifeless, that patch could have caused the regression. is it broken on pre-2.6.20 kernels too?
[08:17] <salgado> I mean, post-edgy, pre-2.6.20
[08:17] <lifeless> salgado: I'll install one today
[09:02] <lifeless> ok thats *freaky*
[09:02] <lifeless> I've gone to battery
[09:02] <lifeless> and now $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[09:02] <lifeless> 1100000
[09:02] <lifeless> excuse while I say WTF
[09:02] <kylem> possibly some userspace policy is inverted?
[09:04] <lifeless> scaling_governor is set to 'conservative' now
[09:05] <lifeless> presumably by gnome-power-manager


[01:52] <ulkesh> minimec: thanks, sadly I just tried and didn't...instead I just downloaded the daily ISO and installed fresh...keeping a /home separate makes this a pretty easy reinstall
[01:59] <minimec> ulkesh: --> separate /home ... I agree ;) Don't know why my upgrade passed... Well.. I do not use any tcltk based software.
[04:13] <AussieUpOver> xubuntu 14.04. Sometimes when I go afk & it locks the pc, when I come back & move the mouse or bash keyboard buttons it just stays irresponsible, can't unlock it or even get the monitor to turn back on, can only force restart.
[05:20] <AussieDownUnder> xubuntu 14.04. I think I figured out what causes my pc to crash when the screen is locked. Putting usb devices in or out.
[05:44] <cdoublejj> what version open gl does 14.04 LTS use?
[05:44] <cdoublejj> 3.3?
[05:45] <cdoublejj> oh it depends on the driver
[06:06] <AussieDownUnder> Hey guys, Is there a lib32stdc++ pre-release/saucy in a ppa somewhere for xubuntu 14.04 that I can install, I need it for a printer?
[06:59] <ThomasB> i am incredibly happy with 14.04
[06:59] <ThomasB> it's going to be such a terrific release
[07:13] <Lorith[Alpha]> mh,
[07:13] <Lorith[Alpha]> i know right
[07:13] <Lorith[Alpha]> the gnome ver is awesome too
[08:18] <nikolam> I just reported bug about find util, started from (ana)cron jobs, does searches within BTRFS snapshots (that are exposed as readwrite(!) or read-only and mounted in file system mount point.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/1288106
[08:20] <nikolam> I just wonder how that will affect LTS release, not to include this kind of Ubuntu distribution and system utils bug, not recognizing File system specifics. (file system snapshots exist for a long time)
[10:52] <AlanBell> hi all
[10:52] <AlanBell> I wonder if anyone agrees/disagrees with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1288163
[10:53] <AlanBell> or if anyone could create a video to illustrate it, my screencasting seems to have *horrible* audio at the moment and I can't figure out why
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <kblin> hi folks
[12:02] <BluesKaj> hey kblin
[12:17]  * kblin hopes the updated network manager will perform less abysmal
[12:18] <k1l_> wait, i got 2 NM indicators o_O
[12:20] <kblin> intersting. I've only got one, but once in a while the network connection just freezes until I restart network manager
[12:20] <kblin> and sometimes I fall off the WiFi and can't reconnect, again until I restart network manager
[12:21] <k1l_> i got 2, one regular indicator and one with just 2 switches for wired and wireless and settings entry
[12:22] <k1l_> its working all fine for me. but i got the intel n 6205 wifi card, which is unproblematic at all
[12:40] <NikTh> Any problems with grub lately ?
[12:41] <xsacha> haven't had any here
[12:42] <xsacha> by default, from a fresh install, the grub is 'silent' and just shows a black screen with ubuntu purple around the edges
[12:42] <xsacha> but that's probably by design
[12:42] <NikTh> I cannot configure the 40_custom entries.. don't know/understand why.
[12:42] <NikTh> Removed the x bit from 30_os_prober and update-grub, will result only with Ubuntu as an entry when reboot, despite..
[12:43] <NikTh> ..that /boot/grub/grub.cfg lists the 40_custom script entries correctly.
[12:43] <k1l_> works here and on my netbook which got some custom grub scripts
[12:44] <NikTh> k1l_: what's the version ?
[12:44] <NikTh> Here it's 2.02~beta2-6
[12:44] <k1l_> erm, havent got my netbook here but i just upgraded that yesterday to 14.04
[12:45] <NikTh> Ok, then probably we have the same version. (I've installed today the 14.04 - again )
[12:46] <k1l_> are you sure your grub scripts work right? my older scripts from last versions did work without a problem on the netbook
[12:48] <NikTh> I will try again.. with -v option this time.. and see.. I cannot understand why, I mean the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file is OK, but the actual grub menu (upon reboot) does not  list the contents.
[12:56] <xutl> any changes with respect to broadcom wifi chips driver in 14.04 ?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> xutl, 14.04 ubiquity installer detected my bcm wifi chip and enabled it during the install
[13:00] <BluesKaj> and I was able to enable it, to be more precise, xutl
[13:02] <xutl> BluesKaj: currently in 13.10, my bcm 4313 wifi chip is detected with brcmsmac driver but the range is very limited, it doesn't connected if away for more than 4feets so I have to manually enable wl driver for longer distance
[13:03] <xsacha> i have another laptop with a bcm chip and it has worked in ubuntu since ~ 12.10
[13:03] <xutl> xsacha: there are a lot of different bcm chips with different drivers, mine is bcm 4313 chip
[13:04] <xsacha> pretty sure mine is 4310
[13:04] <xsacha> it's 6 years old
[13:07] <xutl> hmm
[13:09] <BluesKaj> xutl, mine is the BCM4313 too ,and it's working on 14.04 (KDE desktop/Kubuntu) just fine
[13:13] <xsacha> i remember that much earlier (12.04) i needed to extract the firmware first or something
[13:15] <xutl> BluesKaj: just fine is a generic term, mine also works just fine, but speed and distance are two different things of top priority after card is detected, brcmsmac driver gives gud speed but not full to over 3 feets only, while wl driver covers long range but with half speed (speed meaning half of internet bandwidth speed)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> xutl, check the power settings and channel on the router, sometimes there are options to increase the broadcast power and use a higher numbered channel like 9 instead of 6 which is usually the default
[13:20] <xutl> BluesKaj: lol, I saw channel 1 as default in every router, I changed it to channel 9 but afterwards changed it to channel 6
[13:22] <pappu-bhaiya-ki-> BluesKaj: problem is not with wouter, but of internet bandwidth, if I use windows than I get full bandwidith speed
[13:25] <BluesKaj> patdk-wk,, make up your mind about your nick , choose one and keep it
[13:25] <BluesKaj> or jai-pappu ^
[13:26] <BluesKaj> sry patdk-wk
[13:26] <jai-pappu> BluesKaj: what ? lol
[13:27] <BluesKaj> nm
[13:27] <jai-pappu> BluesKaj: I was showing my nephw, how to change nicks
[13:27] <BluesKaj> no matter, you can use nickerv help in the server text to do that
[13:28] <jai-pappu> hmm
[13:29] <BluesKaj> changing nicks 3 times is poor conduct, makes for a confusing chat
[13:29] <jai-pappu> I know, anyways
[13:44] <xsacha> just got a random crash in unity while trying to open an app via the launcher
[13:45] <xsacha> and it told me it couldn't report it because i had packaged out of date
[13:45] <xsacha> i updated literally 10 minutes ago :|
[13:50] <patdk-wk> but I like my nick :)
[13:53] <xsacha> hmmm a few gl updates
[13:57] <sgo11> hi, I am using ubuntu gnome 14.04 beta1. The known issue says it does not support nvidia-prime. Then how can I use nvidia driver without prime support? OR will nvidia-driver work in ubuntu-gnome 14.04 beta1 without nvidia-prime? I tried to sudo apt-get install nvidia-331. it automatically installs nvidia-prime for me, then I can not enter my system.
[14:03] <jdrab> hi guys does unity(7) in 14.04 need "indirect context rendering support" ? i don't understand what it exactly is or how it works but for me unity on 14.04 does not work :/
[14:03] <jdrab> unity_support_test http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038608/
[14:03] <jdrab> oh and btw "does not work" means there is no window decoration,panel,launcher absolutelly nothing :/
[14:06] <BluesKaj> patdk-wk, that message wasn't meant for you. Sorry, my mistake. :)
[14:06] <DJones> sgo11: Is that a specific issue for your graphics card? I did an install for a dual graphics (intel/nvidia 750M) at the weekend and didn't have any issues, I did install nvidia-prime
[14:07] <patdk-wk> I know :)
[14:07] <Echostorm> Anyone know if the teamspeak 3 client can be found in any ppa?
[14:09] <Echostorm> Just installed 14.04 earlier, it's been stable so far
[14:13] <sgo11> DJones, this is for ubuntu gnome. Are you using ubuntu gnome? thanks.
[14:14] <xutl> 14.04 has unity or gnome as shell ?
[14:15] <sgo11> DJones, that belongs to the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1262068 it says it release fixed. does it mean I can get the fix by doing "apt-get upgrade"? thanks.
[14:25] <DJones> sgo11: No, mine is a straight Ubuntu with unity install
[14:26] <sgo11> DJones, ok. that is gnome specific. gdm issue. I think it gets fixed. will try apt-get upgrade. thanks.
[14:27] <DJones> sgo11: The bug report seems to suggest that it should work with Gnome, but only if its not an optimus/dual graphics machine
[14:30] <sgo11> DJones, ok. so I don't know what to do then. just wait until it gets fixed? :)
[14:50] <xsacha> i just got an update to bash on 14.04 and it has ruined autocomplete
[15:20] <utack> did anyone else get stuck at the login screen with the newest version?
[15:21] <utack> after entering the password it gets stuck. though i can use the top bar to reboot etc
[16:47] <elgo> hi, how do i disable the desktop icons on 14.04 desktop?
[16:48] <k1l> doesnt unity-tweak-tool got a setting for that?
[16:52] <elgo> k1l: i've not found anything related yet
[16:53] <k1l> system-desktop symbols. then click on the symbols in the first tab
[16:54] <elgo> k1l: add more icons, doesn't remove existing. desktop shows  $home/*
[16:55] <k1l> uh
[16:55] <k1l> than you did change that somewhere before?
[16:55] <elgo> k1l: fresh default installation, about 15 minutes old
[16:56] <k1l> that should be ~/Desktop
[16:59] <elgo> unsetting XDG-DESKTOP_DIR did it
[19:01] <belgianguy> can I run 14.04 without giving up on my 13.10 ?
[19:01] <belgianguy> IIRC, it usually removes those older versions
[19:02] <belgianguy> but I'm quite eager to try 14.04
[19:02] <bekks> belgianguy: No, you cant. Either you upgrade or you dont.
[19:03] <belgianguy> bekks: hmm, then I'll have to wait some :) betting the main dev machine on it wouldn't be that wise
[19:13] <Volkodav> belgianguy you can dual boot along 13.10
[19:14] <belgianguy> Volkodav: I might boot it off USB to see what's it like
[19:14] <Volkodav> true
[19:18] <Volkodav> but if real install works good for you may copy your home partition to it and hence migrate to it
[21:53] <pietro10> apt-get dist-upgrade wants to now install a package I do not want. Is there a way I can find out which updated package now requires that one?
[21:53] <pietro10> actually it seems to be a recommended package; hm...
[21:56] <pietro10> oh it's libreoffice
[21:56] <jtaylor> --no-install-recommends
[22:01] <pietro10> yeah well ahead of you there, but thanks
[22:01] <pietro10> it was libreoffice so eh
[23:44] <kzetts> Hi, Im trying to boot the xubuntu 14.04 cd, and it is saying /casper/vmlinuz not found.
[23:44] <kzetts> I md5'd the iso
[23:44] <kzetts> and everything is fine
[23:44] <kzetts> burnt a second disk
[23:44] <kzetts> no effect
[23:44] <kzetts> Is the iso broken?
[23:50] <FernandoMiguel> kzetts: can you try an older build?


[01:20] <alexandros_c> good night everyone
[01:22] <alexandros_c> I just recently installed xubuntu and have notice that hibernate is disable and restart is missing. I tried the fix in a ubuntu forum but it did not work. does anyone know how to fix these issues?
[01:43] <_DADDY> hi
[01:44] <_DADDY> i got xubuntu and my cpu is only running at 1400 whereas it should be 2.7
[01:55] <ToZ> _DADDY, in ubuntu, the default cpu governor is "ondemand" - meaning it will cycle up the cpu when there is a load that requires the higher cpu cycles and cycle down when there is a lower load.
[02:00] <Unit193> _DADDY: Run  openssl speed   and check again.
[02:00] <_DADDY> k
[02:01] <_DADDY> na still 1400
[02:03] <ToZ> _DADDY, run "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
[02:07] <_DADDY> ya was the gov i have to run a bunch of crap to get it to move
[02:08] <_DADDY> think i should adjust gov settings?
[02:08] <drc> And why would you want to do that?
[02:08] <_DADDY> idk it seems like its lagging behind alot
[02:10] <_DADDY> what do you use for a terminal? is terminator any good?
[02:11] <ToZ> xfce4-terminal is the default
[02:20] <xubuntu065> Hi, my name is Hugo and I just would like to say to the devs and maintainers of xubuntu that xfce is great and xubuntu is amazing!
[02:22] <xubuntu065> Sorry, could not find a better place to express my feelings :)
[04:11] <raytray> [A
[04:11] <raytray> [A
[04:11] <raytray> oops sorry
[04:13] <v1adimir> raytray: ctrl+a+d :P :D
[04:14] <raytray> :P
[04:20] <v1adimir> :S
[09:13] <MoL0ToV> i just removed /home/user/Documents and replaced with a symlink that link to a dir. but if i try to browse with tunar, don't work. How to fix?
[09:15] <MoL0ToV> solved
[09:16] <Siilence> e/i
[09:16] <Siilence> err
[11:46] <s0mm3onz> Hello, anyone here? I have a problem with installing particular software. The software is named "Network Tools" and i've installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center. The problem is that Ubuntu Software Center tells me that it's installed, but i can't find the software in the Application Menus. Any help would be appreciated.
[11:48] <s0mm3onz> Oh, i've found it in settings. Nevermind than. :)
[13:12] <iLogical> hi
[13:12] <iLogical> the power management settings cannot be opened
[13:13] <iLogical> it gets loading forever
[14:38] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[16:57] <xubuntu737> I am having problems with my projector.  I can't get it to connect to my Daktech netbook.  If I turn the computer off while the projector is plugged in, it will connect, but I can't see anything on the computer screen, only the laptop screen. If I try to plug the projector in after the computer is on, and use the FN F6 function, it just doesn't work.  Can you help?
[16:58] <xubuntu737> I meant turn the computer ON while projector is on and connected through VGA
[17:15] <holstein> xubuntu737: i usually troubleshoot with a known good monitor.. then i can usually know better how to deal with the projector
[17:15] <holstein> xubuntu737: the funtion keys are usually specific to the hardware, but arandr is a handy tool i usually get dual head working with
[17:18] <recon_lap> is it just me? my firefox seems to be very sick, the menus suddenly very unresponsive and getting lots of screen shredding!!
[17:19] <holstein> recon_lap: could be the graphics card.. or unrealistic expectations of the hardware?
[17:20] <recon_lap> icore-5 with 6gb , think something is up :(
[17:21] <holstein> recon_lap: try as a different user to remove your user config from the equation.. try another web browser... try isolating flash
[17:25] <recon_lap> going to try as a different user
[17:30] <recon_lap> hmm, seems to be related to my profile, firefox runs fine in different login
[17:36] <drc> recon_lap: try renaming ~/.mozilla and starting FF (with a new profile)
[17:37] <drc> You can add what you want one at a time and see what it was
[17:37] <holstein> yeah, then you dont lose anything too.. i mean, theres likely some things in there you want to keep
[17:47] <recon_lap> thx, will try that
[18:16] <recon_lap> removed .mozilla and restarted, a bit better, but the menu is still very unresponsive.
[18:20] <holstein> recon_lap: if it runs as expected as a new user with a default config, then id say the issue is in your config.. could be added plugins or anything in there
[18:20] <Zelouille> recon_lap: there is also a "-safe-mode" parameter, which disable extensions and themes for the session. That could help.
[18:26] <recon_lap> thx for the suggestions, just realized that i installed a lot of DVD player junk a couple of days ago. might be a cause. but I'm not sure whats really wrong.
[18:28] <holstein> recon_lap: the same "junk" should be installed as the other user, correct?
[18:29] <holstein> recon_lap: the main difference in your user and the other user is the config file... if using a different config file "fixes" it, then its safe to assume the issue is in there
[18:29] <holstein> recon_lap: i would just grab your mozilla config and rename is as Zelouille suggests and try it.. adding back what you need til you figure out what is the issue
[18:30] <holstein> as drc suggested *
[18:31] <recon_lap> holstein: I did rename .mozilla, firefox is still running slow.
[20:25] <vitimiti> salut
[20:38] <xubuntu572> so, how do you actually download xubuntu? since the links on the download page apparently don't work at all.
[20:39] <xubuntu572> and while we're at it: how do you report the links that don't work?
[20:42] <Unit193> xubuntu572: Let me poke at something.
[20:44] <David-A> xubuntu572: what do you mean "links on download page does not work"? it works for me. (you have to choose either to download via torrent or select a mirror site) (and choose between 32 and 64 bits)
[20:44] <Unit193> xubuntu572: Where are you looking at?  I clicked on several with no issues, and they pulled up the page as expected.
[20:45] <xubuntu572> Right, I select a mirror site, get to a page with a lot of links (12.04), none of which actually work.
[20:46] <Unit193> Clicking on the .iso rather than .jigdo?
[20:46] <xubuntu572> yes
[20:47] <xubuntu572> is that a problem?
[20:47] <Unit193> Weird, I'm still not having issues.  Can you give an exact link?
[20:47] <xubuntu572> page with links is http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/
[20:47] <Unit193> Which file?
[20:47] <xubuntu572> the links show in the status bar when hovering, but nothing actually happens when clicking
[20:48] <xubuntu572> 	xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso	17-Aug-2012 18:17	682M
[20:49] <Unit193> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso is downloading for me at 1.38MB/s with an ETA of 8m 47s
[20:49] <xubuntu572> ok, the link you just sent in chat is working fine
[20:49] <xubuntu572> the webpage itself is no-go
[20:50] <Unit193> That's the link I clicked on the site, what browser?
[20:50] <xubuntu572> chrome
[20:50] <Unit193> Some browsers are very quiet about when you click it.
[20:50] <xubuntu572> I've never seen this before in chrome
[20:50] <Unit193> Well, at least you have it working now.
[20:50] <skellat> It is generally better to use a download tool like wget or aria2c to grab an ISO in lieu of a browser by itself
[20:51] <xubuntu572> thanks, and do you know how to report the issue with the webpage?
[20:52] <Unit193> xubuntu572: Well, you'd normally contact the provider, but as I said, I can't hit that issue here.  skellat is right too, download tools, or bittorrent clients are the best way to go (except if you already have part of the download, then rsync or zsync)
[21:09] <Forg> Hmm, I have an odd issue. It seems that the display manager/switcher allows me to easilly switch display settings on dual monitors in ubuntu
[21:09] <Forg> but not in xubuntu...
[21:09] <Forg> would anyone happen to know if it's possible to run the display manager from ubuntu in xubuntu somehow?
[21:13] <Unit193> Install and use arandr, more info at...
[21:13] <Unit193> !faq
[21:14] <Unit193> I've actually done it before, pretty easy to use.
[21:15] <Forg> I'll check it out. Thanks :)
[21:17] <Forg> on a similar note, I have a few issues with the sound manager in xubuntu, yet the ubuntu sound manager works just fine (default on both for 12.10).
[21:17] <Forg> is there a method of running ubuntu's sound manager in xubuntu?
[21:22] <Unit193> Forg: I have no idea what "Ubuntu's Sound manager" is.  pavucontrol should be installed, is that what you're having issues with?
[21:24] <Forg> Yes, pavucontrol is what I mean.
[21:25] <Forg> I can't control my analog output (my built in audio) with my hardware volume control in xubuntu. Instead it adjusts the digital output only.
[21:25] <Forg> it does, however, work as it ought to in ubuntu
[21:30] <Unit193> Could always look at alsamixer.
[21:32] <Forg> brb