[00:01] <bane5000> Is there anybody here that can help me troubleshoot my little graphics card issue :>
[00:01] <H7R> Okay .... sorry to tell it but this channel sucks : why there is no ubuntu responsible people in ubuntu channel ? ... maybe they don't support ubuntu at all...
[00:03] <H7R> bane5000 sorry, i'm not a system administrator ... and all other will tell you that your card is not supported because the constructor is not open source friendly (specialy with nvidia) !
[00:04] <bane5000> haha well thankfully it's Radeon ... and the issue is that my ubuntu detects the second monitor fine within the display settings.. it just displays black
[00:05] <H7R> bane5000  So it's an amd so they tell you that they can't help you cause they are not in the module ... good luck to solve your problem here ....
[00:06] <H7R> bane5000 did you tryed to connect your second screen on another VGA/HDI port ?
[00:06] <H7R> HDMI*
[00:07] <bane5000> H7R: Unfortunately my graphics card doesn't offer two hdmi ports. So i'm stuck using 1 hdmi (which works fine) and the second (DVI with a vga adapter) which doesn't display
[00:07] <H7R> bane5000 or to set a 640*480 resolution ?
[00:07] <bane5000> haven't tried that
[00:08] <bane5000> H7R: Nope that didn't work
[00:08] <H7R> try all resolution in the list ?
[00:08] <ryuo> H7R: so, the kernel module won't load because of secure boot?
[00:09] <H7R> bane5000 tryed all resolution in the list ?
[00:09] <bane5000> trying that now
[00:09] <H7R> ryuo : WTF ? didn't understand nothing !
[00:09] <bane5000> H7R: Noppers, that didn't work :/
[00:09] <ryuo> ... nevermind.
[00:10] <H7R> bane5000 did you tryed to move your mouse in the second screen ?
[00:11] <H7R> 640x480 or 800x600 and move your mousse
[00:11] <bane5000> hmm i could try that
[00:11] <bane5000> H7R: My display just crashed brb
[00:12] <H7R> if you don't see your mousse then try to see if your monitor is on the good source (PC)
[00:12] <H7R> bane5000 why ?
[00:12] <bane5000> H7R: Not sure, but i am unable to see my interface now
[00:12] <bane5000> brb
[00:15] <bane5000> H7R: Ah okay, my desktop was set to display on the blank screen
[00:16] <H7R> bane5000 ???
[00:16] <bane5000> H7R: Well the issue isn't resolved, the issue i resolved was the disappearance of my desktop Lol - but my second monitor still isn't working
[00:17] <H7R> bane5000 did you verified electricity cable ?
[00:17] <bane5000> H7R: Yep because it works fine when it displays the bios splash screen. It doesn't go blank until it loads ubuntu
[00:19] <H7R> bane5000 that mean you wired the cable on the "MOTHERBOARD" dvi port !
[00:19] <bane5000> H7R: No, both are plugged into the graphics card
[00:21] <H7R> so that mean your driver doesn't set well your screen. Return in your driver's configuration interface
[00:24] <H7R> bane5000 it was a long time ago i was able to configure an nvidia board but with my new amd card all is integrated. I don't know how you did to crash your opensource driver ...
[00:24] <bane5000> haha well i'm not sure what's going on but xrandr is showing me some weird stuff. so going to do some more research
[00:26] <H7R> bane5000 in my memory there is a set of amd (semi?)proprietary drivers for X window system. try to search amd x in synaptic, maybe it will be usefull ... Else i cant go more further ...
[00:26] <bane5000> thank you <3
[00:27] <H7R> bane5000 good luck ...
[00:41] <H7R> the menu bar has crashed some tools i added on (system monitor, clock, sensors, etc...) i'm on mate with compiz-fusion, my card is an AMD radeon 5XXX series
[00:41] <H7R> of course no one can tell me why .... ???
[00:42] <JacobTDC> I'm running Ubuntu CLI only, amd for some reason some of my terminals are different fonts...
[00:42]  * H7R seriously think to build his own gentoo !
[00:43] <JacobTDC> I'm running Ubuntu CLI only, amd for some reason some of my terminals are different fonts. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[00:44] <H7R> jacobTDC it is normal, all terminal program have his own settings. in more each user can change it's own session settings ... a good .bashrc should change that !
[00:46] <JacobTDC> H7R: Okay, but should tty1 have a different font than tty2-tty6? I've never experienced thus before, and I dont't like it, TBH...
[00:46] <JacobTDC> *this, not thus
[00:46] <JacobTDC> H7R: it's a fresh install
[00:48] <JacobTDC> How do I change it back, is what I mean to ask, sorry if I seemed rude, H7R, I've just had a lot of frustration with Ubuntu today... XD
[00:48] <H7R> JacobTDC :maybe TTY6 is in another resolution or screen mode than TTY2 or on one TTY you used an application that has changed your preferences ... do on all ttw $ ~/.bashrc to see if ti change something !
[00:48] <JacobTDC> Huh?
[00:49] <H7R> JacobTDC I had a lot of frustration with this channel tonight !
[00:49] <H7R>  on your tty try $"~/.bashrc"+enter
[00:50] <JacobTDC> Oh, okay.
[00:51] <H7R> JacobTDC : so ?
[00:52] <JacobTDC> I cam't log in.... XD
[00:52] <H7R> verify the numkey lock
[00:52] <H7R> and the capslock
[00:53] <H7R> jacobTDC so ?
[00:53] <JacobTDC> Okay, I logged in, but my keyboard is acting up... oh well, ill get it in a min...
[00:54] <H7R> ....
[00:54] <H7R> -_-
[00:54] <JacobTDC> Can only `return' from a function or scored script.
[00:54] <H7R> What ?
[00:55] <JacobTDC> Thats the error it gave me.
[00:56] <H7R> no i told in the TTY you type "~/.bashrc" (without quotes) and then you type on your keyboard return/enter key
[00:56] <JacobTDC> I did.
[00:56] <H7R> what's happend ?
[00:57] <JacobTDC> "line 8: return: can only `return' from a function or sourced script"
[00:58] <H7R> there is a bug in your .bashrc try the one i send to you !
[00:58] <JacobTDC> ok
[01:00] <H7R> open the file transfer window ...
[01:01] <JacobTDC> ?
[01:01] <H7R> what is your chat client ?
[01:01] <JacobTDC> weechat
[01:01] <H7R> did you tryed Xchat ?
[01:02] <boogle> hexchat will work the same since it was forked.
[01:02] <H7R> boogle : please explain to him how to get file
[01:03] <H7R> boogle : I don't know weechat
[01:03] <JacobTDC> I'll just reinstall Ubuntu....
[01:03] <Brokenrose199211> I use irssi
[01:03] <JacobTDC> for the 2nd time today...
[01:04] <JacobTDC> 2nd or 3rd... not sure... XD
[01:04] <boogle> I never transferred files with hexchat. I just know it can.
[01:04] <H7R> jacobTDC : wwwhhhhyyyy ? ;'((((
[01:05] <miralu1> ++
[01:05] <H7R> boogle : you said weechat is the same ...
[01:06] <JacobTDC> Ubuntu has been driving me INSANE today...
[01:06] <miralu1> how do I exit from weechat from this server?
[01:06] <JacobTDC> ./quit
[01:06] <miralu1> thanks
[01:06] <boogle> No, i said hexchat can transfer files as well as an alternative to xchat.
[01:06] <H7R> JacobTDC If you reinstall at the first little apearance change ubuntu is not for you !
[01:07] <JacobTDC> I know, it's just that my computer is trash, so reinstalling typically works.
[01:07] <H7R> boogle can you receipt this file ?
[01:08] <JacobTDC> thats not the only problem I have, H7R , btw.
[01:08] <H7R> JacobTDC : so what is your main problem ?
[01:08] <JacobTDC> SynPS/2 input devices. 'cause I'm using a dinosaur.
[01:09] <H7R> before pentium i cannot help !
[01:10] <JacobTDC> Welp, bye for now...
[01:10] <H7R> JacobTDC : why don't you use LXDE for graphic ?
[01:10] <JacobTDC> ?
[01:10] <JacobTDC> I'm using CLI only....
[01:12] <JacobTDC> Welp, back to waiting for another hour... XD
[01:12] <boogle> Okay H7R send a file to boogle_
[01:17] <mofo> Hi my name is the onewithnoname
[01:18] <boogle> I closed the client.
[01:18] <H7R> mofo : hello ulysse !
[01:19] <H7R> good bye unusefull channel
[01:44] <atlas_0x01> \join #hackerswhoblaze
[01:49] <waltman> One of the updates tonights (I'm guessing either console-setup or keyboard-configuration) reset my caps lock mapping. I can't find any docs on how to change it back. Can anyone give me a link? Also, WTF?
[01:51] <waltman> Ah, never mind, I just found where it was hidden.
[01:54] <Randolf> My date format is screwy.  How can I set it to YYYY-Mmm-DD?  I'm using Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS.  Thanks.
[02:00] <jnewt> exit
[02:05] <ord> anyone on?
[02:07] <ord> ill assume not but im gonna ask anyway
[02:07] <ord> my entire system locks up at like half second intervals
[02:07] <ager> hi
[02:07] <ord> hello
[02:08] <ager> тут есть русские?
[02:09] <leftyfb> !ru | ager
[02:25] <Randolf> How can I change the date format that shows up in applications like web browsers?  The default is confusing, and I want to change it to:  %Y-%b-%d
[02:25] <Randolf> Thanks in advance.
[02:25] <leftyfb> confusing?
[02:26] <leftyfb> Also, web browsers? Anything displaying anything in a web browser is that of the content of the web page. Not of your local system.
[02:26] <Randolf> Yeah, it doesn't show the date in a logical format.  The most common format throughout the world today is year-month-day, and ISO date format is in this manner too.  For some reason it puts the date in month/day/year format which screws me up.
[02:27] <Randolf> No, the web browser is display a date field in HTML5 that defaults to whatever the format of the end-user's system is.
[02:27] <Randolf> s/display/displaying/
[02:27] <leftyfb> show an example
[02:27] <Randolf> I recently dumped Windows 10 and now I'm just trying to get things working so that I can fully productive again.
[02:27] <leftyfb> ok, no sure how that is relevant to resolving your issue
[02:28] <Randolf> An example?  Okay, so it defaults to 07/24/2018 and I'm accustomed to using the standard format here in Canada which is 2018/07/24 or 2018-Jul-24.
[02:28] <leftyfb> got a screenshot?
[02:28] <Randolf> I've already customized my date and time display at the top of my toolbar in Ubuntu here, and that's working well.
[02:28] <Randolf> A screenshot?  I just want to know how to configure a custom date format.
[02:29] <leftyfb> got a screenshot of an example of it being displayed in a manner you don't prefer?
[02:29] <Randolf> Some web pages indicate using Language/Region settings, but that only displays the format.  It doesn't actually let me customize it.
[02:29] <leftyfb> Right, can you screenshot an example of this?
[02:30] <Randolf> I just explained that it displays the date in Month/Day/Year format as:  07/24/2018
[02:30] <leftyfb> Does it do this anywhere but a web site?
[02:30] <Randolf> All applications that display the date.
[02:31] <Randolf> Fortunately I found an easy option to switch to 24-hour format, but no such luck with the date.
[02:31] <leftyfb> cool, can you screenshot one of them showing this?
[02:31] <Randolf> Why do you need a screenshot?  I just want to customize my date format.
[02:31] <leftyfb> To better assist you
[02:32] <leftyfb> to replicate the issue to find a solution
[02:32] <Randolf> Go to this web page, and you'll see an example of whatever your default date format is (see the "Output" window on the right):  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input/date
[02:33] <Randolf> On my system, it shows dates formatted as:  07/22/2018 to 07/29/2018
[02:33] <Randolf> In Far2l, I see the same date format, but the first two digits of the year are missing.
[02:35] <Randolf> Here's a screenshot of my problem that someone else is having (and also doesn't seem to have a solution to):  https://i.stack.imgur.com/GFTzQ.png
[02:36] <Randolf> It comes from this web page:  https://superuser.com/questions/1186861/how-do-i-change-the-date-format-of-date-input-fields-in-chrome
[02:39] <hggdh> Randolf: here's the thing: you said this happens on *web pages* but your screenshot does not show us anything about a web page. In fact, I have no clue which application produced this
[02:40] <hggdh> Randolf: without knowning *what* produces the date, it get quite difficult to help you
[02:40] <Randolf> hggdh: It happens in web browsers that are rendering the HTML5 date-input field.  It also happens in other applications, like Far2l, which display the date using the system format.
[02:40] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-formats.html.en
[02:42] <Randolf> oerheks:  My Language is already set to Canada.  Unfortunately it uses a non-Canadian date format, which is why I need to customize this.
[02:42] <leftyfb> I just tested oerheks's suggestion after finding it from googling for "ubuntu google chrome date format"
[02:42] <leftyfb> Randolf: log out and back in
[02:42] <leftyfb> it works
[02:43] <Randolf> leftyfb:  But I haven't changed anything yet because I haven't been able to figure out where to set the custom date format.  My Language has been set to Canada since I installed Ubuntu.
[02:43] <hggdh> Randolf: it is not language, it is formats
[02:43] <Randolf> hggdh: The "Formats" is set to Canada.
[02:43] <leftyfb> Randolf: follow the link oerheks gave you, under "regional formats"
[02:44] <Randolf> It shows "Dates" as:  2018-07-24 (which is correct)
[02:44] <leftyfb> Randolf: then reboot
[02:45] <Randolf> leftyfb:  I haven't changed anything because it's all set to Canadian alreayd, but I'll try rebooting now.  I'll be right back...
[02:45] <leftyfb> Randolf: I just set mine to English(Canada), rebooted and it works as you'd expect
[02:47] <Randolf> Hello.  I just finished rebooting, and I see that the date format is unchanged -- it's still showing incorrectly as mm/dd/yyyy format.
[02:48] <hggdh> Randolf: then the application (or web page) you are using/looking at hard-coded the date format
[02:48] <leftyfb> Randolf: please screenshot your "Regional Formats" tab for us
[02:51] <Randolf> Here it is:  https://paste.pics/a12c59917576b4421ff64dd9034ac625
[02:52] <Randolf> So, how can I customize this date format?
[02:52] <leftyfb> Randolf: what Desktop Environment are you running?
[02:52] <Randolf> Whatever the default is that comes with Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS.  Would that be Gnome?
[02:54] <lol123> Hey guys, hope you are enjoying yourself... I am kinda having a problem with an ipod not synching in Ubuntu 18.04.. I  have tried various players known to make it work such as Celmentine, Amarok and Banshee... Any idea?
[02:54] <leftyfb> lol123: I think support for Apple products has gone downhill and been left untouched for many years
[02:55] <Randolf> lol123: You'll need iTunes.  Even on Windows this is the only way to do it, but Wine may be able to run iTunes for you.
[02:55] <Randolf> ...if Apple doesn't provide a native Linux version.
[02:55] <leftyfb> itunes will not work well or at all in wine
[02:55] <Randolf> Oh.
[02:55] <leftyfb> and Apple does not release a linux version of anything
[02:55] <Randolf> That's too bad.
[02:55] <lol123> Lol, I am sure that you know IPod does work in Ubuntu... so stop fooling around and  give me a lead
[02:56] <leftyfb> Randolf: I've got the same setting and it's working for me. You should close all your settings windows and just open the "Language Support" util from activities
[02:56] <Randolf> lol123:  You may need to buy an app that sets up a little HTTP server that provides a download .zip file option.  That's what I ended up doing for my daughter's iPad (I don't buy Apple devices anymore because of this incompatibility problem).
[02:57] <Randolf> leftyfb:  There's a bunch of updates here, I'll try another reboot after installing those and try again.
[02:57] <oerheks> for iphone, sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice6 libimobiledevice-dev and connect your phone ( unlocked)
[02:58] <oerheks> if not unlocked, it will never see anything
[02:59] <leftyfb> lol123: Nobody is here to "fool around". If the ipod "does work" in Ubuntu, then there's no problem. Otherwise, as I said, ipod/iphone support(libimobiledevice) for linux applications has dwindled. You can see here, not much activity. https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice
[03:00] <lol123> Yeah, got u!  but you know well that ubuntu 18.04 out of the box supports IPOD, not to mention that I have used it before
[03:00] <leftyfb> lol123: ok, then everything works. Good luck.
[03:01] <lol123> Well, let's not talk about luck since it is not working
[03:01] <leftyfb> lol123: but: "ubuntu 18.04 out of the box supports IPOD"
[03:02] <leftyfb> If that were the case, then it would work "out of the box"
[03:02] <lol123> Yeah....blablabla..lol, exactly.... That's the problem.. it should but it's not
[03:02] <leftyfb> lol123: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/music-player-newipod.html.en
[03:04] <Randolf> lol123: Apple wants everyone to be locked into using Apple computers running MacOS, or at least running iTunes.  They don't make it easy for people to use third-party products and they have always seemed to be hostile to third parties, including open source.
[03:06] <lol123> Great, I will give it a shot
[03:07] <leftyfb> Randolf: I've got the same setting and it's working for me. You should close all your settings windows and just open the "Language Support" util from activities. From there choose the "Regional Formats" tab. Pick "English(Canada" from the "Display numbers, daes and currency..." section if it's not already selected. Then click the "Apply System-Wide" button and reboot
[03:16] <qwebirc59720> hello ! i want create usb bootable for my windows.iso :( how i can create usb bootable ? and add iso file to my usb ?
[03:18] <qwebirc59720> :( no one can help me ?
[03:19] <qwebirc59720> please !
[03:19] <qwebirc59720> uebera||: :/ maybe you are here
[03:20] <qwebirc59720> oerheks: you are here ?
[03:20] <qwebirc59720> no one is here ?
[03:20] <leftyfb> qwebirc59720: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu
[03:22] <qwebirc59720> leftyfb:  it's not work :) https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu check :)
[03:23] <leftyfb> qwebirc59720: define "it's not work"
[03:23] <qwebirc59720> leftyfb: the url for downloading :) don't work error 404
[03:24] <leftyfb> qwebirc59720: https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8
[03:25] <qwebirc59720> leftyfb:  thanks !
[03:54] <amazoniantoad> Hi. The fans wont come on on my laptop. 18 lts
[03:54] <amazoniantoad> Can someone help me figure out how to make my laptops fans automatically turn on?
[03:59] <amazoniantoad> ...anyone?
[04:04] <AAA_awright> amazoniantoad: I don't have any solution, but maybe it's a BIOS thing, or hardware? In any event, you should mention make/model
[04:11] <amazoniantoad> hm
[04:11] <amazoniantoad> ill boot into bios and check it out
[04:11] <amazoniantoad> thanks
[04:25] <jpmh> O have a bash script that performs some very slow opeartions,  Is there a way from bash that I can DISABLE buffering on STDOUT
[04:30] <illuminated> what does the proc under /proc stand for?
[04:56] <miralu1> Hi, I am new to this chat. How do I initiate a chat with someone?
[04:56] <miralu1> I am using weecha
[04:57] <guiverc_t> miralu1, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, you just ask it (try and keep to a single line, and be patient waiting for a response, people will respond when and if they can..)
[05:08] <miralu1> I am a Ubuntu user for about 12 years
[05:09] <miralu1> love it
[06:00] <frost1111> hello anyv
[06:01] <frost1111>  hello anybody there need some assistance
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> frost1111: thats not how it works mate, when someone asks a question you can offer/contribute
[06:03] <frost1111> Is there any way we can connect to bind shell execute command on remote system and show the output on our terminal
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> frost1111: ?
[06:05] <frost1111> lotuspsychje: hey i guess u didn't get the question
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> frost1111: how about you start from the beginning, ubuntu version? kernel? what are you trying to for what reason?
[06:07] <mikeride> what fingerprint Ubuntu gives?
[06:10] <frost1111> lotuspsychje: the scenario is like there is a bind shell (Bind shell is a type of shell in which the target machine opens up a communication port or a listener on the  machine and waits for an incoming connection. The user then connects to the machine’s listener which then leads to code or command execution on the server) open on the remote server i as a user try to connect to the particular bind shell execute a command for example whoami and gets a
[06:10] <frost1111> output on my terminal
[06:15] <guiverc_t> mikeride, fingerprint?
[06:19] <mauricio> hello
[06:19] <mauricio> speak spanish ?
[06:19] <guiverc_t> !es
[06:20] <Guest59559> ubottu,  muchas gracias
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> frost1111: what has this to do with ubuntu support exactly?
[06:25] <mikeride> the humans don't need to be explored without purpose
[06:26] <mikeride> if there is a mission the mission is complete then stop
[06:26] <jpmh> how can I force STDOUT to be flushed in a bash script?
[06:28] <mikeride> force std out?
[06:28] <mikeride> find how it works you can see sometimes in a magazine
[06:30] <mikeride> shows how a virus enters the transcription area
[06:30] <mikeride> the remainder of the punishment
[06:31] <mikeride> filling up what was "lacking"
[06:31] <MBoard> hi all, I am learning apache2 and I have a server that I share with somebody else.  This server is not going to be used for live sites but for web design practice.  If I want to make 2 accounts on the system am I right to understand that a symbolic link would be required from /home/user/public_html directory to /var/www/html/user directory and make the user part of www-data group?  I have been
[06:31] <MBoard> looking for documentations online but I am struggling to find any decent information.
[06:31] <mikeride> not a lack
[06:31] <MBoard> I have ubuntu 18.04 installed
[06:31] <mikeride> but a slow filling full
[06:32] <mikeride> lacking in the aebae if the reckoning
[06:32] <mikeride> sense
[06:32] <guiverc> mikeride, please stay on topic - this is a [Ubuntu] support forum
[06:32] <ducasse> can whoever operates that bot please kill it?
[06:32] <mikeride> where the remainder of the comy foundation is spent
[06:33] <mikeride> the darkness passes
[06:33] <mikeride> but until it passes there is a remaining balance
[06:33] <uebera||> frost1111: You're basically looking for "ssh", then? Or some kind of (hopefully encrypted) "nc" (netcat) cased connection? (See https://www.hackingtutorials.org/networking/hacking-netcat-part-2-bind-reverse-shells/)
[06:34] <mikeride> and you push out all std then
[06:34] <uebera||> s /cased/based/
[06:34] <mikeride> for any me to be justified
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !ops | mikeride poetry
[06:34] <mikeride> right justified or left justified
[06:36] <mikeride> guiverc it can be used for push out std
[06:36] <mikeride> but not for wrong reasons
[06:37] <Flannel> mikeride: Hi, like someone said already, please stop saying random lines in here.  It's not on-topic for this channel.  Thanks.
[06:37] <mikeride> not for justify any by means of having
[06:37] <uebera||> MBoard: You might to have a look at https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/public_html.html
[06:38] <Flannel> MBoard: You can have each user put stuff in /var/www, or put stuff in their own userdir (in their home directory), like uebera|| pointed out.
[06:39] <titanSTRIX> hi guys. I have a problem in my gnome terminal. it does not support Persian fonts. after a lot of searchs i found a way. installing fribidi and bicon. but there is no package for them in bionic
[06:41] <MBoard> uebera||and Flannel thank you
[06:42] <uebera||> !info fribidi bionic | titanSTRIX
[06:42] <uebera||> Oh. Strange.
[06:43] <uebera||> It is listed here --> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/fribidi
[06:43] <Flannel> uebera||, titanSTRIX: I believe the package is named libfribidi-bin
[06:44] <titanSTRIX> ubottu, yes but its not working in bionic
[06:44] <Flannel> !info libfribidi-bin
[06:44] <InitializedSahib> hello everyone! i just upgraded my bionic system to 18.04.1 but noticed my snaps are no longer working after the upgrade
[06:44] <titanSTRIX> thanks. what about bicon?
[06:45] <InitializedSahib> when i try to run them in the terminal they print out this error: cannot perform readlinkat() on the mount namespace file descriptor of the init process: Permission denied
[06:45] <InitializedSahib> and when i try to run them via the .desktop GUI shortcuts they don't do anything and no processes associated with them are running
[06:45] <InitializedSahib> does anyone else know about this issue?
[06:47] <uebera||> titanSTRIX: There seems to be at least a third party PPA --> https://launchpad.net/~aelmahmoudy/+archive/ubuntu/ppa (but I have never used that)
[06:49] <uebera||> That one contains a lot of packages, maybe you want to directly pick bicon manually from there and test it (or, recompile it yourself from source for bionic).
[06:49] <InitializedSahib> never mind, it turns out it's because i'm using 4.18 rc from mainline :^)
[07:00] <titanSTRIX> uebera||, I tried it last hour ago. it was full of compile error. and did not giving me a clear log
[07:16] <uebera||> titanSTRIX: Did you check the patches provided here? After all, it built for bionic on launchpad --> https://launchpad.net/~aelmahmoudy/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/8540168/+listing-archive-extra
[07:18] <titanSTRIX> uebera||, Hey guy. thank you very much. you solved my boring problem
[07:19] <uebera||> titanSTRIX: you're welcome ;)
[07:37] <Satchel> I am here
[07:56] <Guest61388> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[07:56] <Guest61388> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[08:00] <frost1111> uebera : hey yeah ssh works but is there other  way like openning a bind shell like shared in post and then interacting with that
[08:00] <MBoard> I make a user on Ubuntu and added to www-data group.  I make chown -R www-data:user /var/www/html/test.local  for what reason is it that user gets permission error to create index.php file in this directory?
[08:02] <MBoard> if I do groups in terminal it is showing user sudo www-data
[08:03] <bozsikarmand> Hello, I would like to ask, how can I create a pendrive with GPT partition table and the capablity of UEFI booting in the most easy way under Ubuntu? The Disks application only creates MBR scheme when I use the image restoration option. Thanks
[08:04] <MBoard> don't worry, I forget to make chgrp and chmod -_-
[08:09] <EriC^> bozsikarmand: image restoration option?
[08:14] <bozsikarmand> EriC^, Yeah. in Disks there is a Restore Disk Image option. This works fine but it only creates MBR partition scheme, which is my problem. I would like to use GPT.
[08:34] <roger_rabbit|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[08:34] <roger_rabbit|> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[08:37] <EriC^> bozsikarmand: are you making a live usb?
[08:40] <horse> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[08:40] <horse> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[08:41] <bozsikarmand> EriC^, yes :)
[08:55] <saggot> hi
[09:05] <snapconfusion> I am interested in using a handful of snaps, but I am concerned about using software from unknown publishers. The few pieces of software I am interested in (Discord and Gimp) say they are packaged by "SnapCrafters" instead of the original software authors. What exactly does it mean when the software catalog displays the author as "SnapCrafters"? Do you all think this particular publisher should be trusted?
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> snapconfusion: The “Snapcrafters” are a group of community contributors working to get snaps published by upstream projects
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> snapconfusion: when you search a snap from terminal, you will see individual maintainers,snapcrafters and canonical
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> snapconfusion: snaps are built to be safe, but that doesnt mean nothing can happen, always be prudent or use packages from the official ubuntu repos
[09:12] <snapconfusion> I try to stay within the official repositories as much as possible, but it does not seem possible to do that with Discord. I suppose the next best thing is to review the files on the SnapCrafter's github repository and make sure they match what is being installed by the package manager to ensure everything is on the up-and-up.
[09:17] <skraito> hey guys
[09:17] <skraito> what is the best ide for java 10 in ubuntu
[09:18] <ppf> the one you liek most
[09:18] <skraito> netbeans?
[09:18] <ppf> if you like it the most then yes
[09:27] <microwaved_> morning all, question, i've been having trouble every time i reboot my ubuntu 18.10 system that it won't resolve like google.com when i ping it or when i try apt-get update , i keep having to do manual stuff to fix it , is there anyone who knows of this issue or atleast know how to permanently fix it, i know its a silly thing but i cannot find a clear answer on the internet
[09:28] <microwaved_> so i can ping ip addresses like <IP_ADDRESS> or any other public but it won't let me ping like google.com or anything that has a dns name
[09:28] <microwaved_> its the LTS btw
[09:29] <cry_wolf> Hi
[09:30] <cry_wolf> How the hell do you call opened app in the taskbar ?
 it looks like dns issue, did you try this https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-set-dns-nameservers-in-ubuntu-server-18-04/
[09:37] <microwaved_> grzesag: i think so yes but i'm having a look right now
[09:38] <microwaved_> are the [ and the  ] mandatory?
[09:40] <miio> hi
[09:40] <miio> Someone here who knows som great linuix study sites or free dok's ?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> !manual | miio
[09:41] <Shabbysheik> microwaved_: in YAML yes, you need to follow the format exactly
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> microwaved_: ubuntu 18.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:42] <Shabbysheik> he meant 18.04 lotuspsychje, no worries
[09:42] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: but wow, it's for 12.04 and 13.04?
[09:42] <tarzeau> ah english is for 16.04
[09:43] <tarzeau> where's the 18.04 version?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: there are 18.04 wiki manuals if you like
[09:47] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: url?
[09:48] <Yiuweoa7Man> aeiou sometimes w and y
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html
[09:55] <Yiuweoa7Man> -.--/../..-/--././---/.-
 please look at Name Resolution on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en
 as well as this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50299241/ubuntu-18-04-server-how-to-check-dns-ip-server-setting-being-used
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> Yiuweoa7Man: stop that please
 you can try systemd-resolve --help to set dns server per interface any luck?
[09:59] <microwaved_> grzesag: already did the last thing you said and that didn't work
[09:59] <microwaved_> grzesag: even per interface did not really do a thing
[10:05] <microwaved_> grzesag: thanks for your help anyway :) ill keep looking for a solution and report back when i have one just for the sake of sharing knowledge
[10:07] <TvL2386> microwaved_: you using 18.04 server with a static ip?
[10:07] <alex_> Здравстуйте. Сижу на 16.04 Сервер. Есть смысл менять на 18.04
[10:08] <TvL2386> microwaved_: if that is the case: http://dpaste.com/3BY4XB6
[10:08] <microwaved_> TvL2386: i am actually using a static ip yes
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> !ru | alex_
[10:09] <TvL2386> microwaved_: well in that case my dpaste will help you :)
[10:09] <microwaved_> will that count for 18.10 lts aswell?
[10:09] <alex_> ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <TvL2386> microwaved_: it is from a 18.04 server....
[10:09] <alex_> #ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <TvL2386> 18.10 LTS does not exist
[10:10] <TvL2386> and 18.04 is a LTS release yeah
[10:10] <TvL2386> $ lsb_release -d
[10:10] <TvL2386> Description:	Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[10:10] <microwaved_> TvL2386: sorry i meant 18.04 i need a coffee
[10:10] <TvL2386> microwaved_: :)
[10:11] <TvL2386> microwaved_: put that file in /etc/netplan and do `netplan apply`
[10:11] <TvL2386> and you're done
[10:11] <microwaved_> TvL2386: but i do have my config in /etc/network/interfaces, should i remove it there and add it to the file you pasted?
[10:12] <microwaved_> TvL2386: sweet, ill have a look now  , ill report back in a minute
[10:12] <TvL2386> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces
[10:12] <TvL2386> cat: /etc/network/interfaces: No such file or directory
[10:12] <TvL2386> that does not exist on ubuntu-18.04
[10:12] <TvL2386> not in mine anyway :)
[10:13] <TvL2386> but hey, I only have 2 ubuntu-18.04 servers at the moment
[10:13] <TvL2386> bbl
[10:14] <microwaved_> ok good point let me edit that , btw above that in my netplan file i have renderer NetworkManager instead of networkd
[10:35] <smaudet> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[10:35] <smaudet> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[10:35] <the_madman|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[10:35] <the_madman|> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[10:35] <rodarmor> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[10:35] <rodarmor> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[10:35] <microwaved_> TvL2386: i think i found the source of the problem , a bit unexpected but weird though.
[10:36] <Guest73448> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[10:36] <Guest73448> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[10:37] <acerbic> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[10:37] <acerbic> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[10:39] <oerheks> :-)
[10:44] <TvL2386> microwaved_: mkay, what's it?
[11:18] <Deepfriedice> Hi all, I'm having an issue with light-locker:
[11:18] <Deepfriedice> Whenever I try to unlock my screen, the message "This session is locked: You will be redirected to the unlock dialog automatically in a few seconds" will flash VERY briefly, and then the screen is re-locked.
[11:21] <microwaved_> TvL2386: i had multiple interface profiles referring to the same interface name and your solution made my thought process different and then i saw the cause of it being one of them in /etc/network/interfaces, the other profile i'm still looking for but its working as it should now tanks a lot!
[11:42] <skinux>  /msg nickserv identify laradev18
[11:42] <skinux> Did I just put my password into the channel?
[11:42] <frost1111> yeah
[11:42] <oerheks> skinux, yes
[11:43] <blackflow> skinux: configure your irc client for automatic sasl
[11:43] <oerheks> -- /msg nickserv set password YOURNEWPASSWORD (maximum length 79chars)
[11:43] <oerheks> :-)
[11:44] <skinux> Okay, it's changed
[11:44] <oerheks> wb
[11:44] <Katnip> use keepass
[11:44] <skinux> I haven't figured out how to configure SASL
[11:45] <blackflow> it's not rocket science. what irc client are you using? with irssi it's just three lines in config. sasl_mechanism, sasl_username and sasl_password, done.
[11:45] <skinux> Anyway, I installed Ubuntu Server in VM. I keep seeing stuff about Cloud, do I need to be aware of any specifics?
[11:46] <TvL2386> microwaved_: yw! :)
[11:49] <TvL2386> I just use ubuntu-18.04-mini-amd64.iso to install ubuntu-server. I don't like the new installer
[11:49] <TvL2386> I guess then you won't harrassed with "stuff about Cloud"?
[11:50] <microwaved_> TvL2386: whats wrong with the new installer?
[11:50] <lifeida> hello
[11:50] <oerheks> ..why not the regular server iso ?
[11:50] <oerheks> netplan?
[11:51] <TvL2386> well, I wanted to setup LVM and if I remember correctly, there were no options to do so with the new installer
[11:52] <TvL2386> also the choices for fstypes were very limited in comparison with the 16.04 server installer
[11:52] <asphyxia> first time running a program bundled as an AppImage. I chose desktop integration, but then realised I should move the file from Downloads first. I'm new to linux.. how would I find and delete the desktop integration files?
[11:54] <lifeida> Did you use weechat on android?
[11:55] <TvL2386> one thing I haven't gotten to work yet with netplan, is the "post-up" and other hooks you had in /etc/network/interfaces. I read documentation on how to get that functionality, but it was simply not working
[11:57] <blackflow> TvL2386: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2018-July/007725.html
[11:58] <TvL2386> o_O :-D
[11:59] <TvL2386> I stand corrected :)
[11:59] <blackflow> you could also help testing :)
[12:00] <TvL2386> iso is downloading ;)
[12:00] <lifeida> :)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:05] <cry_wolf> Hey
[12:10] <cry_wolf> is this possible to add different colors in a same tag in awesome wm ? for example; the firs tag: "1:main" 1 < bright green - :main < green ?
[12:10] <cry_wolf> I'm sorry but I can't connect to OFTC (irssi) I don't know why.
[12:11] <cry_wolf> That's why I'm asking here
[12:20] <vitalkanev__> I think that latest grub update changes timeout from about 5 seconds to 15 seconds
[12:20] <vitalkanev__> (Typing in this channel because I think it's affected on all flavours, like Xubuntu)
[12:22] <TomyWork> I'm on kubuntu 14.04 and i think i just broke my bluetooth. i tried pairing a new device via right-click -> add device. it listed the device, i added it, but it didnt detect any services. in an attempt to fix the situation, i did right-click -> turn bluetooth off. i haven't been able to restore bluetooth functionality since then, even with previously working devices, even after a reboot
[12:23] <TomyWork> i cannot connect to services on paired devices, i cannot pair new devices (rightclick -> add new device turns up empty and doesnt stop scanning
[12:23] <TomyWork> )
[12:27] <tomreyn> TomyWork: about unblocking BT, is anything listed as locked in 'rfkill list'?
[12:27] <TomyWork> bluez-test-device listsome wifi devices are blocked
[12:27] <TomyWork> hci0, which is the device i think was used, is not blocked
[12:28] <TomyWork> i notice that there's also dell-bluetooth, which is odd
[12:30] <TomyWork> odd, if i block dell-bluetooth, hci0 disappears
[12:31] <tomreyn> sounds like you may have misconfigured something while you were trying to make things work.
[12:31] <TomyWork> maybe...
[12:31] <TomyWork> what does "turn bluetooth off" do, actually?
[12:32] <TomyWork> in the rightclick menu of the bluetooth icon in kde
[12:32] <tomreyn> not sure, it probably either soft blocks the device or unloads the driver
[12:32] <TomyWork> how do i check if the driver is loaded?
[12:32] <tomreyn> run 'sudo update-pciids' and 'sudo update-usbids', then run this and post the returned URL here: pastebinit <( lspci -nn ; echo; lsusb; echo; lsmod; echo; rfkill list; )
[12:34] <TomyWork> not <<?
[12:34] <tomreyn> no
[12:35] <mojtaba> Hello, after running df, I am seeing this: /dev/loop1           640       640         0 100% /snap/gnuchess/9
[12:35] <asphyxia> hey tomreyn, thanks for your help with the battery diag the other week, turns out it was the hardware after all
[12:35] <mojtaba> Could you please explain what it is and how can I unmount it to free some space?
[12:35] <TomyWork> tomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/648psnxtVC/
[12:35] <tomreyn> asphyxia: :-/ a pity. but glad i could help.
[12:36] <TomyWork> mojtaba are you using snapcraft?
[12:36] <mojtaba> TomyWork: I am not sure.
[12:36] <TomyWork> https://snapcraft.io/
[12:36] <TomyWork> this stuff?
[12:36] <tomreyn> mojtaba: this is a snap.
[12:36] <mojtaba> TomyWork: let me see.
[12:37] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I have these:
[12:37] <mojtaba> /dev/loop1           640       640         0 100% /snap/gnuchess/9
[12:37] <mojtaba> /dev/loop2          2048      2048         0 100% /snap/gnuchess/11
[12:37] <mojtaba> /dev/loop0         88704     88704         0 100% /snap/core/4650
[12:37] <mojtaba> /dev/loop3         89088     89088         0 100% /snap/core/4830
[12:37] <mojtaba> /dev/loop5        217344    217344         0 100% /snap/gimp/39
[12:37] <tomreyn> !paste | mojtaba
[12:38] <TomyWork> well, you're clearly using snaps, and a bunch of them. i suggest you ask them for support. this is not standard ubuntu stuff. snaps bypass the package manager in a way
[12:39] <mojtaba> TomyWork: I am not sure what I have done. Those are there for a long time.
[12:39] <mojtaba> :-P
[12:39] <tomreyn> TomyWork: so this computer seems to be connected to a dell e-port replicator, i think that's a docking station. it may be why you see that dell BT device. try disconnecting, see if this makes BT work again
[12:39] <TomyWork> tomreyn it's connected to a docking station, yeah
[12:39] <TomyWork> never used to be a problem, though
[12:40] <TomyWork> i'll lose irc connection if i disconnect, so... brb :)
[12:40] <ducasse> TomyWork: actually, several snaps are installed by default in the desktop version of 18.04 aiui
[12:41] <vitalkanev__> Just in case, here is the paste with "apt policy, apt show and grub-install --version" output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ntFsHK7HBw/
[12:41] <TomyWork> tomreyn "rfkill list" still lists dell-bluetooth when i disconnect from the docking station
[12:41] <vitalkanev__> for my case
[12:42] <TomyWork> ducasse interesting, i didn't know that
[12:42] <tomreyn> TomyWork: hmm so i guess i was wrong.
[12:45] <TomyWork> tomreyn do you know what bluedevil and bluez are and how they're connected?
[12:45] <TomyWork> i seem to have both and i think that is not good
[12:46] <tomreyn> TomyWork: i'm not really sure how to continue debugging this from here on, hardly ever use bluetooth. but there's this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[12:47] <tomreyn> TomyWork: i think bluedevil + bluez are software to manage bluetooth interfaces (via drivers)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, they're both installed here by default and never use BT
[12:48] <BluesKaj> I never use BT
[12:48] <BluesKaj> TomyWork,^
[12:51] <TomyWork> sorry, i couldnt use mouse or keyboard all of a sudden, and kdeinit went up to 100%
[12:51] <TomyWork> not gonna disconnect that docking station again :)
[12:52] <TomyWork> BluesKaj thanks, i think they were installed by default for me as well
[12:53] <kiss885415> anyone here?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> kiss885415, check the nicklist :-)
[12:54] <TomyWork> tomreyn as soon as i hit "add new device", bluetoothd goes to 100% CPU and nothing happens
[12:54] <TomyWork> which totally explains the behaviour of my CPU fan
[12:56] <netsrot> Hi, I'm getting amd 2400g freeze "amdgpu vmc page fault" and have to reboot using sysrq. I'm using ubuntu 18.04 amd64, kernel 4.17.9, oibaf drivers. Can anyone help?
[12:58] <oerheks> netsrot, so you used the mainline kernel? those are for testing only
[12:58] <netsrot> The kernel build I got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.17.9/
[12:58] <netsrot> oerheks: I was told the regular kernel doesn't work well with amd 2400g.
[12:58] <oerheks> yes, i noticed, the latest stable
[12:59] <vitalkanev__> My laptop (HP 15) does not have bluetooth
[12:59] <oerheks> indeed amd2400g is supported from 4.16 and up
[13:01] <oerheks> netsrot, make sure you have the latest bios
[13:03] <user_> rahul
[13:03] <mojtaba> hello, do you know how can I free up some space in /?
[13:03] <TomyWork> tomreyn "hciconfig hci0 up" did the job
[13:03] <mojtaba> I have tried apt-get autoremove and autoclean. but still I am running low.
[13:03] <netsrot> oerheks: I have the latest bios.
[13:05] <tomreyn> TomyWork: yeay, glad you worked it out.
[13:09] <ck86821315> hello noob ubuntu user. Only used it for a good year playing around. Is it possible to install windows 10 with Ubuntu 18.04 both via the MPR route?
[13:09] <ck86821315> on the same SSD?
[13:12] <TomyWork> tomreyn i was also able to connect that device i originally wanted to connect, yay
[13:13] <TomyWork> after switching it from that crappy telephony protocol to a2dp
[13:13] <TomyWork> so yay
[13:15] <tomreyn> very well, Tomy. :)
[13:15] <tomreyn> ck86821315: do you mean MBR? multi boot installation side by side with windows is generally possible, yes
[13:16] <tomreyn> !dualboot | ck86821315
[13:17] <mojtaba> hello, do you know how can I free up some space in /? I have tried apt-get autoremove and autoclean. but still I am running low.
[13:17] <tomreyn> ck86821315: you should install windows first, ubuntu afterwards. and every couple of years, windows may overwrite the boot loader, preventing you from starting ubuntu.
[13:17] <guiverc> mojtaba, you can always remove programs; what size partition do you have for / ?
[13:18] <mojtaba> guiverc: 15 GB
[13:18] <tomreyn> mojtaba:can you show us: df -h 2>&1 | pastebinit
[13:19] <mojtaba> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yVTzC7WvZZ/
[13:20] <tomreyn> mojtaba: so both your / and /home are almost full
[13:20] <blackflow> why is /tmp 24G?
[13:21] <blackflow> mojtaba: ^^
[13:21] <mojtaba> blackflow: I am not sure. :-P (I am newbie.)
[13:21] <mojtaba> blackflow: Can I repartition?
[13:22] <blackflow> mojtaba: not on live disk like that no. but you have some weird partitioning there going on. /var is sda9, root is sdb1, tmp is sda6, home is sda8, where's the rest of sda and why is it split between sda and sdb like that?
[13:22] <tomreyn> sure, but you will need to backup beforehand
[13:23] <tomreyn> i mean, sure, you can reparttion, but not live.
[13:23] <mojtaba> blackflow: sdb is a SSD of size 16GB.
[13:23] <mojtaba> sda is my HDD.
[13:24] <BluesKaj> mojtaba, is tis a hdd/ssd hybrid drive setup?
[13:24] <blackflow> mojtaba: in multi-boot with Windows?
[13:24] <mojtaba> BluesKaj: I have thinkpad T440S and it came by default like that.
[13:25] <mojtaba> (windows pre-installed.)
[13:25] <mojtaba> blackflow: I removed windows.
[13:25] <ck86821315> tomreyn: Thanks :)
[13:25] <blackflow> mojtaba: so your laptop cam preinstalled with windows and linux and partitioned like that?
[13:25] <blackflow> *came
[13:26] <The_Ball> I'm trying to use apt-offline to install some packages on an offline system, I can see it has created /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/old-releases.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-security_Release and other files in the "partial" folder. However apt-get doesn't seem to pick it up when I'm trying to upgrade
[13:26] <The_Ball> Any ideas why apt-get doesn't "see" the packages?
[13:26] <mojtaba> blackflow: It had just windows. I removed it and installed Ubuntu like that. :-P
[13:26] <blackflow> mojtaba: so where are sda{1,3,4,5,7}?
[13:27] <ck86821315> tomreyn: probably not the right place to ask or I could go to #arch but was wondering if it would be possible to install arch on the same ssd. I tried to a couple months ago but somehow couldn't write it on the windows boot loader...
[13:27] <mojtaba> blackflow: I don't know. :O
[13:28] <mojtaba> blackflow: I am looking at gparted
[13:28] <mojtaba> sda1 is crypt-luks, unmounted.
[13:29] <mojtaba> sda3 is not mounted as well
[13:29] <blackflow> mojtaba: how big are they all? 1,3,4,5 and 7  ?
[13:30] <mojtaba> blackflow: Sda-7 is swap. There is no sda{4,5}
[13:30] <mojtaba> blackflow: sda1 is 1000MB
[13:30] <tomreyn> ck86821315: yes, it's not the right place to ask ;)
[13:30] <mojtaba> sda3: 50GB
[13:30] <blackflow> a lot of extra space that you aren't using
[13:30] <mojtaba> sda7: 11.44GB
[13:31] <blackflow> mojtaba: and a bit oversized swap unless that's your RAM size and you hibernate
[13:31] <mojtaba> blackflow: I have 12GB of RAM>
[13:31] <mojtaba> blackflow: By hibernate you mean suspend?
[13:32] <blackflow> mojtaba: no, I mean hibernate. on disk, not in ram.
[13:32] <Ool> pm-hibernate != pm-suspend
[13:32] <mojtaba> blackflow: I don't hibernate. I don't see its option in Unity. most of the time I suspend.
[13:33] <Ool> hibernate is  opt off because with some computer is not working
[13:33] <blackflow> mojtaba: well, if you ask me, you've got some 60GB you could get out of it. back up all your data and reinstall ubuntu fresh, automatic disk partitioning unless you really need to customize it.
[13:34] <mojtaba> blackflow: I installed Ubuntu on the SSD (16G) drive to have it faster.
[13:34] <blackflow> mojtaba: I don't know what to do with that 16G SSD... what is that anyway, sounds a bit small. unless it's one of the older, first gen SSDs?
[13:34] <mojtaba> blackflow: It was by default on my laptop.
[13:34] <blackflow> mojtaba: question is, do you even need that. with 12G most of your hot data is probably in RAM cached
[13:35] <mojtaba> blackflow: After re-installing, my system is faster.
[13:36] <blackflow> mojtaba: yeah it probablyb boots faster and program start up is faster, but how often you do that, compared to total computer use time?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> weren't those small ssds used for the boot and root partitions when they were first introduced quite a few yrs ago
[13:36] <blackflow> mojtaba: I mean whatever you want, but 16G is obviously insufficient for your use case.
[13:37] <blackflow> BluesKaj: I think so, which means they're the early SSDs and this one is about to fail hard and violently, "soon" :)
[13:37] <BluesKaj> would be good for / if it's still a viable drive
[13:37] <mojtaba> blackflow: any suggestion for now, easy solution. not re-installing?
[13:37] <blackflow> BluesKaj: personally I'd use it for L2ARC with ZFS
[13:38]  * BluesKaj nods
[13:38] <blackflow> BluesKaj: so if it fails, teh system would just log and shrug (And slow down a bit)
[13:38] <blackflow> I have no experience with bache but there's that, for non-ZFS afficionados.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> blackflow, dunno much about ZFS
[13:39] <mojtaba> blackflow: What is L2ARC?
[13:39] <blackflow> mojtaba: none. your partitioning layout is weird, you're out of space, ther's nothing you can do.
[13:39] <blackflow> mojtaba: nothing you could use now. it's persistent cache device for ZFS
[13:40] <mojtaba> blackflow: So on you pc you are using ZFS instead of ext4?
[13:40] <blackflow> mojtaba: yes
[13:40] <blackflow> two-disk mirror with an ssd L2ARC
[13:41] <deadrom> hi.
[13:41] <deadrom> 18.04.1 on track? release on friday as planned?
[13:42] <mojtaba> blackflow: What is the benefit of ZFS over ext4?
[13:42] <blackflow> mojtaba: it's a pooled copy-on-write filesystem with data checksumming and volume management / raid. with all the benefits of each of those.
[13:43] <deadrom> mojtaba: ZFS deos more than just be a file system. it handles raid levels, zraid1 and 2 specifically, acts as a volume manager and can achieved great performance when given proper hardware
[13:43] <blackflow> it's raidz not zraid, and it can also do striping and mirror
[13:43] <deadrom> mojtaba: and with all its tripwires, too. there is a 2 part youtube video series "become a zfs ninja" or so, checking those out gives you proper background. (long but worth watching)
[13:44] <blackflow> performance never was ZFS's strenght :)   there's some perfromance benefit of ARC, but it's usually negligible except in large read-mostly worloads
[13:44] <mojtaba> deadrom: blackflow: thanks. (good to know)
[13:45] <blackflow> I wouldn't recommend ZFS to a novice, tho', youtube tutorials notwithstanding. it can easily go south.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> deadrom, just run full upgrade and you should get the point release now
[13:45] <blackflow> deadrom: if you're on Bionic, that is.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> yeah
[13:46] <deadrom> mojtaba: iirc it can deduplicate, but that requires vast amounts of RAM. very basic: don't run without a UPS. ZFS needs 1GB RAM per 1TB storage to perform (rule of thumb) but if you lose power, your zpool might be trashed good
[13:46] <deadrom> BluesKaj: intend to hop from xenial LTS to LTS
[13:46] <blackflow> deadrom: that's nonsense
[13:47] <blackflow> ZFS is very much fault tolerant and resistant to pwer loss. it's NOT btrfs.
[13:47] <blackflow> and zfs doesn't NEED RAM (except for deduplication where it actually does). it _benefits_ from more RAM, it will use what ever you give it, but it can run just fine wiht 64MB of it.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> deadrom, then do-release-upgrade with your LTS only flag enabled
[13:49] <deadrom> blackflow: haven#t done large installs myself, but the benchmark test I've read definitely say ZFS outperforms traditional FS by far. though I'm talking 0.xPB on big irons. on small installations, yes, not much to squeeze out of 6 drives
[13:50] <deadrom> BluesKaj: last info is 18.04 not intended for LTS hop, wait for 18.04.1. not true (anymore)?
[13:50] <blackflow> deadrom: ZFS can't outperform anything that doesn't data-checksum because it checksums and verifies checksum of EACH block it reads. that's offset by ARC. but that's not specific to ZFS. any FS benefits from memory caching that the kernel does anyway.
[13:50] <blackflow> deadrom: what's special about ARC is that A in ARC, and things like MFU, so the caches are better, more optimized than just a simple MRU filesystem cache, which is visible on very specific read-mostly loads, esp. those where MFUs fit in RAM.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> deadrom, the point release was in the repos yesterday afaik , I already have it
[13:51] <deadrom> BluesKaj: good to know, thanks. go test machine.
[13:52]  * deadrom is afraid of upgrding his laptop with 16.04 installed in 16.04 and tons of customizations
[13:52] <BluesKaj> not too many ppas I hope
[13:53] <blackflow> my upgrade failed, crashed and burned. I ended up reinstalling Bionic from scratch.   :/
[13:54] <deadrom> that I did not want to hear :) I will pull a full disk image before...
[13:54] <deadrom> do-release-upgrade says: no new release
[13:54] <blackflow> deadrom: something something gdm and I simply couldn't get it to get to login screen, gave up and just reinstalled.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> blackflow, I upgraded on my laptop and desktop machines without a hitch ...maybe you guys have too many uhmmm "customization"?
[13:55] <blackflow> BluesKaj: dunno, I only had one PPA for nvidia ("the graphics PPA") and that was disabled by the upgrader.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> but I'm not a gnome guy...kde/plasma here
[13:56] <blackflow> oh yes that could be it. this is gnome. I wanted kubuntu but its installer wouldn't allow me to install encrypted root without LVM, and I couldn't even get it to use partitions I pre-pared outside of the installer, so I gave up on that too.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> yeah the ppas are supposed to be disabled, but sometimes i wonder about that
[13:57] <blackflow> so much nonsense. debootstrap installation is the _only_ thing you can rely on.
[13:57] <blackflow> BluesKaj: it was, I checked, even purged nvidia but that didn't help. something in gnome upgrade broke seriously.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> guess I'm just more traditional , but since I'm a home user and don't need exotic FSs I stick with the default ext4FS
[14:01] <blackflow> BluesKaj: ZFS has taught me never to look for another FS, ever again :) I see its power every day, from easy snapshot based backups to once a year avoided bitrot corruption event.
[14:01] <blackflow> but yeah, I value my data. work related, source codes, documents, stuff... I need data integrity and backups.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> blackflow, I've heard of bitrot  but never encountered it, to my knowledge
[14:03] <BluesKaj> the workplace is a totally different computer environment than mine, that's a given :-)
[14:03] <blackflow> BluesKaj: I see ZFS reporting a checksum error approximately once or twice a year, that's how I notice it. cool thing it heals automatically. :)
[14:04] <BluesKaj> interesting, well HW does wear  some
[14:05] <blackflow> BluesKaj: google ran some benchmarks showing silent data corruption (bits flipping on their own, due to cosmic rays or whatev) at the rate of 1 bit per 10TB or so
[14:07] <deadrom> something entirely different: smartmontools won't tell me the drive in a usb3 enclosure. drive's too new. other options without opening the case?
[14:07] <blackflow> and depending on whom you ask, that statistic ranges from "for worse" to "much less bad".   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_corruption#Silent
[14:07] <BluesKaj> that's almost nothing, but I suppose one corrupted bit can cause problems on other FSs\
[14:08] <BluesKaj> bbiab, stuff to do for a few mins
[14:08] <dwC--> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[14:08] <dwC--> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[14:09] <deadrom> blackflow: I remember that, and how they stressed out not to ever ever run storage without ECC RAM
[14:09] <blackflow> BluesKaj: depending which one flipped :) coudl be nothing, could be improtant document failing to open. But the problem is, there aren't any regular mechanisms of detecting it. The only way to detect it is data checksumming filesystems or encryption with hmac validation so the dm layer refuses the whole block because it doesn't match the checksum
[14:09] <blackflow> deadrom: that's very much important too, because bits can flip anywhere
[14:11] <JimBuntu> Are we talking about how Google loves to run their DNS in hot datacenters... leading to bitflips at alarming rates?
[14:11] <blackflow> Not quite, but...... what? :)
[14:12] <deadrom> forgot the -d switch.. bionic coming.
[14:13] <JimBuntu> Probably not an Ubuntu thing, but Google saved money by allowing their datacenters to run hot... which led to lots of bitflipping on the RAM for their DNS. I'm sure there are a number of articles written about exploiting this.
[14:13] <blackflow> deadrom: does it allow the upgrade yet? xenial to bionic?
[14:16] <oerheks> i am already on 18.04.1 .. still the official release is tomorrow 27th ?
[14:17] <deadrom> blackflow: yes, do-release-upgrade -d started the upgrade
[14:20] <blackflow> deadrom: great, thans.
[14:21] <blackflow> *thansk
[14:21] <blackflow> ...
[14:21] <Humvee|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[14:22] <deadrom> blackflow: :)
[14:24] <andregms> 3262
[14:26] <RDaneel01ivaw> Hi everyone, having some issues with audio on my system. Running 18.04 and my audio output via analog line out was working perfectly, until a random reboot and now I have zero audio. I have tried starting and stopping pulseaudio, removing it, reinstalling it, and I still get nothing
[14:27] <RDaneel01ivaw> I have tried a whole bunch of potential solutions I found on the community support forums, and elsewhere, and nothing has worked, and so I'm hoping someone here might be able to help me!
[14:27] <deadrom> RDaneel01ivaw: #pulseaudio folks are very good at their stuff. did you try alsa output with pasuspender and speaker-test? that way you can narrow it down. command examples on internet
[14:28] <RDaneel01ivaw> nope I did not try that, and wow, I didn't even know they have their own channel!
[14:29] <deadrom> RDaneel01ivaw: pulseaudio is such a mysterious and shady beast it better have :D
[14:32] <RDaneel01ivaw> WHOA! that speaker test works! holy mackerel! That's the first time in about 15 hours of troubleshooting this that any sound at all has come out of my speakers
[14:32] <RDaneel01ivaw> should have come here first omg
[14:32] <BluesKaj> RDaneel01ivaw, check alsamixer in the console and make sure your automute is disabled, for starters
[14:34] <RDaneel01ivaw> hmmm, I looked up screenshots on how to do that but I don't seem to have that option?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> RDaneel01ivaw, it's normally located on the far right in alsamixer
[14:37] <poopynegromonkey> where do i get a gentoo disc?
[14:38] <oerheks> monkey wrong channel
[14:38] <oerheks> ask in ... ##windows?
[14:39] <RDaneel01ivaw> BluesKaj, yeah I see where it should be in all the screenshots online, even in the official pulseaudio link... but mine just isn't there... maybe the docs are of an older ver?
[14:41] <deadrom> RDaneel01ivaw: usually it's something toggled by accident. are all pulse modules loaded you need? I had it more than once that I loaded this sink or the other plugin from cli and did not persist that in pulse's daemon config. check your bash history. then levels: alsamixer, the cli version, proper sound card? in my intel-only system I have two, the hardware device and a pseudo mixer. check both. F6 switches cards
[14:42] <deadrom> then see pavucontrol if proer outputs are there. start some sound, youtube or so, see if the VU meter in pavu says something
[14:42] <ioria> RDaneel01ivaw, use the right arrow key to navigate
[14:43] <poopynegromonkey> oerheks: you are not amusing
[14:43] <poopynegromonkey> srsly tho i need to mail order a disc
[14:43] <poopynegromonkey> i have 56k internet and downloading linux would take weeks or eben
[14:43] <poopynegromonkey> even moths
[14:43] <poopynegromonkey> months
[14:43] <deadrom> poopynegromonkey: we're not here to amuse you. take your gentoo things to #gentoo
[14:43] <oerheks> monkey again: wrong channel
[14:44] <deadrom> along with your borderline offensive nickname
[14:44] <poopynegromonkey> LOL did i type gentoo sorry
[14:44] <poopynegromonkey> i meant to type ubuntu
[14:44] <poopynegromonkey> i been asking all the distro channels
[14:44] <poopynegromonkey> hard to find discs these days
[14:44] <poopynegromonkey> i want some sort of linux
[14:44] <oerheks> shipit stopped, look at ebay, or find a local community
[14:45] <poopynegromonkey> but in this area only the white people can afford more than dial up internet
[14:45] <oerheks> just bring your own usb device
[14:46] <poopynegromonkey> and the only "community" around here who ever tried to do anything but bow to the white people are in the county jail for dis orderly conduct
[14:46] <poopynegromonkey> there arent a lot of techies
[14:46] <RDaneel01ivaw> that's not even borderline.  The screens go blank, but the mouse cursor is still there. My monitors end up being awake all the time because of this.
[15:10] <RDaneel01ivaw> BluesKaj, that's so weird!!! Mine doesn't have that. Check this out https://postimg.cc/image/q7mggu2xt/
[15:11] <RDaneel01ivaw> the folks over in pulseaudio channel are helping a ton
[15:12] <xous15> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[15:14] <BluesKaj> RDaneel01ivaw, unmute your speakers . M in the little box indicates muted , use the M key to unmute them
[15:16] <BluesKaj> RDaneel01ivaw, use the arrow keys to navigate
[15:23] <RDaneel01ivaw> audio is fixed!!!! wabbits over at #pulseaudio channel is a rockstar
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> !yay
[15:32] <BluesKaj> RDaneel01ivaw, good to hear :-)
[15:41] <Dbugger> Could anyone give me a suggestion for video editing software? I am hear everywhere to use Final Cut Pro, but since I am an Ubuntu man...
[15:42] <tomreyn> Dbugger: openshot it one, there are at least two others which are often recommended, but i keep forgetting their names.
[15:42] <Dbugger> :)
[15:43] <tomreyn> shotcut is #2
[15:43] <tomreyn> kdenlive #3
[15:43] <Dbugger> aha, thanks
[15:43] <Dbugger> Ill take a look what is in the snap store
[15:43] <netsrot> if I get a lot of disk errors in journalctl but smart status is ok. Should I be worried?
[15:44] <skinux> Hmm. I installed sshd and did minimal configuration, but connection on port 22 is deneid as a closed port.
[15:44] <tomreyn> Dbugger: i missed avidemux
[15:45] <tomreyn> netsrot: can you show them? use !pastebinit
[15:45] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | netsrot
[15:45] <tomreyn> skinux: are you able to connect from the server to the server's ip address?
[15:46] <tomreyn> skinux: that is the ip address which shows up in 'ip a' (but not for the 'lo' interface)
[15:48] <xubuntu1804> Is 18.04.1 LTS (Bionic Beaver) .iso in 24hr. freeze, and do we know UTC time for official release ??
[15:48] <algid> how can i make programs which always open in the primary monitor instead open in my secondary monitor by default
[15:48] <oerheks> xubuntu where did you get the .1 iso ?
[15:49] <leftyfb> xubuntu1804: there is no time for official release, only a day
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> The only calendar date I have seen is July 26th. I would assume that's when Canonical will release the ISO images xubuntu1804
[15:49] <algid> some programs open in the last used display
[15:49] <algid> but some only open in the primary monitor
[15:49] <oerheks> xubuntu1804, oops, it does not freese, the iso is frozen, my bad
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks: I think you mean the ISO builds are froze, where no further changes to the included packages are allowed
[15:50] <xubuntu1804> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/bionic/daily-live/current/
[15:50] <oerheks> July 26th. Ubuntu 18.04.1 on August 2018
[15:50] <netsrot> tomreyn: is this ok? pastebin.com/E5WVa6Je
[15:51] <brainwash> algid: "devilspie" allows you to specify rules for window management, including moving windows around
[15:51] <skinux> How much RAM is really needed for a local server that is only used as a web server to run maybe a few websites or applications at once?
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot: Can you also post the output of the SMART report?
[15:52] <xubuntu1804> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/18.04.1
[15:52] <ryao> skinux: Well, routers like the WRT54G only have 16MB of RAM and they have web servers...
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> skinux: Depends on the amount of traffic the server is going to handle... If you are running a website for your own personal use, on your home network, a regular desktop computer with a 4 gigs of ram would be enough.
[15:52] <tomreyn> netsrot: not what i meant, but works, yes. this log doesn't look healthy. either your storage, the cable or the controller is not in a good state
[15:52] <xubuntu1804> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[15:52] <ryao> pragmaticenigma: Whether you need PHP and MySQL matter too...
[15:53] <noonehere4u7> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[15:53] <ryao> The first website was made on this machine that only has 1MB of RAM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT_Computer
[15:53] <netsrot> tomreyn: I'm using gnome-disks to show that and I don't know how to output smart report as text from that.
[15:54] <skinux> I'm making a local dev/testing server
[15:54] <tomreyn> netsrot: which disk is it?
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> netsrot: You can screenshot and post the image to imgr too
[15:54] <skinux> I'm doing it in a VM, so I'm just trying to see how much RAM I actually need to have allocated
[15:54] <nacc> skinux: if it's a VM, try some amount and test.
[15:55] <skinux> RIght now I have it set for 2G
[15:55] <pragmaticenigma> skinux: You can always adjust the RAM amount later for VMs
[15:55] <skinux> But, it's just a server, no DE, so I'm thinking that might be way overkill
[15:55] <ryao> skinux: Why do you need a VM?
[15:55] <ryao> You can run this on your development system...
[15:56] <Shabbysheik> skinux: thats a bit like asking how long is a piece of string. We don't know how long your piece of string in particular is. Why not just lower the ram settings on the vm until it starts toi perform badly
[15:56] <Shabbysheik> thats your limit then
[15:56] <skinux> VM so that I can store it, have it ready-to-go if I need to restore system
[15:56] <netsrot> tomreyn: it's a WDC WD2500AAKS-00V6A0 (05.01D05)
[15:56] <skinux> Ehh..good point.
[15:56] <ryao> skinux: It isn't hard to backup configuration files and the public_html directory.
[15:56] <tomreyn> netsrot: sorry, i meant to ask, what is the device nod, such as /dev/sdSOMETHING
[15:57] <skinux> Thanks
[15:57] <netsrot> tomreyn: sdb
[15:58] <tomreyn> netsrot: can you confirm this by: ls -lah /dev/disk/by-path/*-ata-2
[15:58] <tomreyn> netsrot: does it say ../../sdb ?
[15:58] <netsrot> tomreyn: yes
[15:59] <tomreyn> netsrot: please run, in a terminal: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <netsrot> tomreyn: I didn't install smartctl because apt wanted to install an email client when I tried.
[16:00] <tomreyn> netsrot: this will output 'smart' info in terminal, and post the output to the termbin.com pastebin, returning the url it was posted to
[16:01] <nacc> netsrot: --no-install-recommends
[16:01] <jpmh> is there a way toflush STDOUT in bash
[16:01] <tomreyn> netsrot: try "sudo apt --simulate install smartmontools" vs. "sudo apt --simulate --no-install-recommends install smartmontools"
[16:02] <tomreyn> netsrot: boith simulate, dont actually apply the changes
[16:02] <netsrot> tomreyn: that worked
[16:02] <tomreyn> netsrot: we'd need th eurl once you randmartctl
[16:02] <tomreyn> *smartctl
[16:03] <tomreyn> netsrot: sorry for the typos, i meant to write: we'd need the url once you ran smartctl
[16:06] <netsrot> tomreyn: pastebin.com/KRrmtCrF
[16:09] <OldHat> Hello.  Does anyone have problems in gnome with eog and vlc spawning a window for each file instead of using same window ?
[16:09] <OldHat> eog cli works as expected.  Somewhat fixed vlc by allowing only one instance in preferences
[16:10] <tomreyn> netsrot: so this has been poweered on for four years, but other than that it looks fine, i agree. when did this start? did you make any hardware configuration changes before it did?
[16:11] <netsrot> tomreyn: I started getting the errors in journalctl in april 18 this year.
[16:11] <OldHat> GNOME Shell 3.28.3, wayland
[16:12] <tomreyn> netsrot: if you don't need full I/O from this drive and can keep the computer powered for a vouple more hours, run this to initiate a self-check on the drive: sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sdb
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | OldHat
[16:12] <OldHat> pragmaticenigma, just info for issue, sorry
[16:12] <netsrot> tomreyn: I'm using amd 2400g and it crashes a lot.
[16:14] <netsrot> tomreyn: before I switched to amd 2400g(which was only a few weeks ago) I didn't get any crashed and the OS isn't on the error disk.
[16:17] <causasui_> I'm backing up a big chunk of data (a bit less than 4tb) to a single magnetic drive just to have a duplicate because I'm about to move my hardware about 25 miles by car. of the modern linux filesystems is one better than another for this purpose? i'm looking at ext4, xfs, btrfs (but I am not 100% sure btrfs is ready)
[16:17] <tomreyn> netsrot: is htis a laptop?
[16:18] <netsrot> tomreyn: no amd 2400g is a desktop apu.
[16:18] <tomreyn> netsrot: hmm no looks like a desktop cpu. so check your bios for the 'power supply idle control' option, set it to 'typical current'. known bug with amd zen cpus.
[16:19] <netsrot> tomreyn: thanks I will try that if it crashes again. I have been running some updates which I hope have fixed the problem.
[16:25] <xubuntu1804> Thanks mods and helpers, you do a great job!
[16:25] <pragmaticenigma> OldHat: The best I can suggest is reach out to the Developers of VLC and thier support channels. It sounds like a bug within the VLC program. Something that's better addressed by their community
[16:27] <OldHat> pragmaticenigma, seems to be gnome problem since happens with eog (image viewer) as well.  I don't see a preference or conf file to set only one instance in eog
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> Can you expand what EOG is? I've not seen that acronym before
[16:28] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: default image viewer in ubuntu/gnome. Also known as "Eye of Gnome"
[16:28] <OldHat> leftyfb, TY
[16:30] <jnewt> stuck in a login loop after a software update,  can get to terminal.  18.04, standard install nvidia suspect because it always causes problems
[16:31] <jnewt> i put in pwd after starting lightdm, blackscreen, then back to login.
[16:32] <MBoard> I have ubuntu 16.04 on a laptop, and today the wifi stopped working.  Also the fonts have become larger.  I checked and it is using bcmwl-kernel-source propriety drivers Broadcom.  Any idea how to find out if it is a hardware issue or software issue? -_-
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> OldHat: Take a look at this article for VLC
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> https://www.vlchelp.com/enable-disable-multiple-instances/
[16:32] <OldHat> jnewt, try a different DE ?
[16:33] <SporkWitch13> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
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[16:34] <OldHat> pragmaticenigma, Yes, already done that for VLC and seems to put them into playlist as it should.  Neither program did this before as default.  Didnt find anything in gconf-editor
[16:34] <MBoard> lspci shows Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY so I think this is recognising the hardwre no?
[16:35] <MBoard> interfaces file only show lo
[16:35] <masaki> anyone use spotify with ubuntu?
[16:35] <compdoc> MBoard, you might try the command:  nmcli general status
[16:36] <nacc> masaki: i have in the past, with the snap
[16:36] <nacc> masaki: what is your support question?
[16:36] <OldHat> MBoard, lo is loopback, pretty sure
[16:37] <MBoard> compdoc it says WIFI-HW, WIFI, WWAN-HW, WWAN as enabled
[16:37] <compdoc> thats good then
[16:38] <OldHat> MBoard, IDK if there is rfkill installed but seem nmcli is new way
[16:38] <MBoard> ok, I am glad that is good.  But I am unable to see any networks.  There are 4 WIFI networks in reach obviously one is mine which I can see on other laptops and mobile but not on this specific laptop
[16:38] <compdoc> MBoard, how about the command:  rfkill list
[16:38] <MBoard> OldHat I need to see what nmcli is exactly.  This is new for me
[16:38] <Leo> Hi
[16:38] <MBoard> compdoc just an empty return.
[16:39] <Leo> How can I change the behaviour of byobu when switching tabs?
[16:40] <Guest38204> In 16.04 tabs are synced between multiple byobu, while in 18.04 they are decopled
[16:40] <jnewt> startx works though. but i cant start a browser to get new nvidia drivers
[16:40] <OldHat> MBoard,    nmcli --help      try nmcli -d
[16:41] <InHisName> A couple days ago, you all convinced me to ignore my FakeRaid on my Aorus X399 MB and consider mdadm instead.  Now have more choices then ever.  What file system ?   for /boot, ubuntu installs +apt-gets etc, and /home.   Also whether to raid 0, 10, or none ?.   Using MVMe.2 3x 500 GB each. Plus one 8 TB HD.
[16:41] <Guest38204> In 16.04, tabs are in sync between multiple byobu, while in 18.04 they are decopled. How can I choose the default settings?
[16:42] <Guest38204> can anyone help me?
[16:42] <MBoard> OldHat I will research nmcli thank you
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Guest38204 (please consider a unique screenname)
[16:43] <OldHat> MBoard try    nmcli radio wifi on
[16:44] <nacc> InHisName: tbh, you should know those choices already; i don't think it's really the role of this channel to configure your system for you (only you know your workload and perofrmance/reliability needs).
[16:44] <MBoard> OldHat it just did an empty return with that command, and checked again still no wifi found
[16:45] <Guest38204> Leo133
[16:45] <Leo133> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[16:46] <nacc> MBoard: hav eyou check if `iwlist scan` reports any APs in range/
[16:47] <MBoard> nacc iwlist just shows    lo  Interface doesn't support scanning
[16:47] <MBoard> it is like it is not enabling the wifi card even though it says is enabled in nmcli general status
[16:47] <nacc> MBoard: lspci showing yoru device does not mean the kernel sees it
[16:47] <OldHat> MBoard It will only show low when modems not detected.  Linux uses it to "talk to itself"
[16:48] <OldHat> MBoard  Have you tried to modprobe it ?
[16:48] <MBoard> OldHat modprobe? Let me google it
[16:48] <nacc> MBoard: can you seeif in `lspci -k` output, that specifid device has a driver loaded?
[16:49] <MBoard> nacc if it shows the wlan with that command it has loaded?
[16:49] <MBoard> I can see it at the bottom of the list
[16:50] <MBoard> starts with 0c:00.0
[16:50] <InHisName> nacc: I'm not that sure as my current system is 15 years old.  Jumping to newer bigger system build.  Barely know ext3.  Now find there is ext4, btrfs, xfs. f2fs.   Mostly will use Virtual box and not so heavy on main computer. At least that is what I want to start with.  The last 2 days has my head spinning.
[16:53] <nacc> MBoard: look inm the section for that specific device and there should be a line like "Kernel modules: ..."
[16:54] <nacc> InHisName: I mean... how much do you need to know your filesystem? use the defaults unless you have a specific use case for others (e.g., lots of containers, large files only). If you are doing a bunch of VMs, you probably should just use ubuntu server at the host level?
[16:54] <OldHat0> MBoard, what module is listed for device ?  Seems some people prefer the kernel module over proprietary
[16:55] <MBoard> OldHat0 I am seeing kernel modules: ssb for the device is this what you are asking?
[16:55] <nacc> OldHat0: ssb is for the backplan, almost certianly not for your wifi device
[16:55] <nacc> err, MBoard --^Y
[16:56] <nacc> OldHat0: proprietary drrivers are still kernel modules.
[16:56] <OldHat0> MBoard, should b43 or brcm etc
[16:56] <MBoard> ok
[16:56] <nacc> MBoard: the lines *after* the relevant device
[16:56] <MBoard> I think I will backup the files and wipe it
[16:56] <MBoard> nacc
[16:56] <OldHat0> nacc, right, I should have said hybrid, I guess
[16:56] <MBoard> I will take a photo and upload it somewhere 1 min please
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> Leo133: I would assume a newer version is included with 18.04 instead of 16.04. Often with newer version, features change or enhacements. I'm not familiar iwth byobu enough, but I'm sure you can get reach out in their community about the issue and see if someone there knows how to restore the legacy behavior
[16:57] <nacc> MBoard: shouldn't be necessary,b ut you are welcome to do that
[16:57] <OldHat0> MBoard    Alt+prntscreen = screenshot window, default into Pictures folder
[16:58] <MBoard> OldHat0 the laptop cannot connect to the internet unfortunately
[16:59] <MBoard> https://imagebin.ca/v/49vB1fm14Cxw this is the photo OldHat0 nacc
[16:59] <OldHat0> MBoard, OK just a nifty shortcut if using latter gnome-shell
[17:00] <MBoard> OldHat0 I will remember it thank you :)
[17:01] <nacc> MBoard: i think yhou need to blacklist ssb
[17:01] <nacc> (reading some posts historically)
[17:01] <nacc> tghere used to be some package like 'broadcom-wl-blacklist' that did this, i guess
[17:02] <nacc> MBoard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:03] <nacc> i would simply try `sudo modprobe -r ssb; sudo modprobe wl` and see what happens?
[17:03] <nacc> or b43? looks like you need the firmware package
[17:05] <MBoard> nacc I have to go but I will check the commands you said when I get back
[17:06] <MBoard> I just realise the time and I am late :o thank you very much for your time, and you OldHat0
[17:06] <OldHat0> MBoard, see  "if you need a LP-PHY version (e.g BCM4312), use: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer "   and "switching between drivers" per nacc link
[17:10] <masaki> the spotify gpg key expired today, is there a way to get the latest version for ubuntu?
[17:11] <Epx998> anyone know what package has a pxelinux.0?  not finding it in syslinux packages
[17:11] <oerheks> masaki, snap package ?
[17:12] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/spotify
[17:12] <masaki> oerheks, thank you :)
[17:12] <oerheks> check out 'other versions' too, latest build 1 month ago
[17:13] <masaki> very nice thank you oerheks
[17:20] <ioria> Epx998, a pkg of its own https://packages.ubuntu.com/en/bionic/all/pxelinux/filelist
[17:20] <Epx998> ioria: I found the file, problem is this cobbler-web and cobbler web package doesnt properly set itself up :(
[17:21] <Epx998> its a train wreck of a package lol
[17:23] <ioria> Epx998, using 18.04 server live edition ?
[17:23] <Epx998> this is 16.04
[17:23] <Epx998> guess i can redeploy and try bionic
[17:24] <Epx998> the post install script ubuntu is famous for didnt run on this, so a lot wasnt set up
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> Epx998: tomorrow you can upgrade to 18.04.1
[17:25] <Leo133> love u guys, I found the solution to my problem, already
[17:25] <Leo133> bye
[17:25] <Leo133> sadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkfsadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkfsadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkfsadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkfsadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkfsadklfjsadlbrjhiberhgwegwehgkbhsdkvabvlrhgsaklvjdfksdahvkjlljdbaldvjjkf
[17:26] <nacc> OldHat: indeed, i wasn't sure what version of ubuntu they were on, thanks
[17:26] <ryuo> [Achievement unlocked: Keyboard Cat]
[17:26] <nacc> Epx998: cobbler package on ubuntu?
[17:26] <tomreyn> Leo133: stop this.
[17:27] <OldHat> nacc, Sorry ?
[17:28] <nacc> OldHat: re: MBoard's b43 issue (i was hoping they'd read the page and do the necessary)
[17:29] <Epx998> nacc: yeah messing with cobbler/cobbler-web, a bit of setup and problem solving after the package installed.  im trying on bionic, see if the result is any different.
[17:29] <OldHat> nacc, Right.  I had to do some of that for my old 4313 but 4312 seems worse device
[17:29] <nacc> Epx998: i would recommend running cobbler from upstream directly
[17:29] <nacc> Epx998: it's not well-maintained in the ubuntu archive (iirc)
[17:30] <nacc> Epx998: they also have their own repository, which is better tested (by cobbler) and there is also #cobbler
[17:30] <Epx998> ok ill take a gander at it
[17:30] <nacc> OldHat: indeed
[17:31] <motte> hi, i have a problem with an expresscard usb 3.0 adapter. i have to manually reinsert it after every boot for it to work. dmesg shows usb3: root hub lost power or was reset after booting. it still shows up in lsusb and lspci before reinserting
[17:32] <OldHat> Does Ubuntu support flatpak or just snaps ?
[17:32] <oerheks> snaps standard, flatpack app available
[17:32] <OldHat> oerheks, OK TY
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> motte: perhaps take a look on voltages in bios?
[17:35] <nacc> motte: yeah, i'd suspect hardware issue; is the adapter powered spearately?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> motte: wich ubuntu version are you on? have you tried a suspend as a test?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> motte: did it work properly on another Os before?
[17:38] <OldHat> motte,  are you using powertop ?   Maybe need to whitelist powersave on that device
[17:38] <Epx998> no cobbler in 18 hehe didnt want that package anyway
[17:39] <masaki> motte, change the power settings in BIOS for your expresscard
[17:39] <masaki> motte, make sure it isn't on power savings mode or something like that
[17:49] <motte> im on 16.04. can't test it with another pc, don't have one with an expresscard slot. i doubt that the card is faulty as it works perfectly after reinserting. i already disabled power savings in bios for expresscard. i am running tlp though, will try to disable power savings for expresscards
[17:50] <OldHat> motte, looking for way i did before with whitelisting autosuspend by device ID
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> motte: take a look at my bit similar bug on normal usb 3.0 ports: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1749237
[17:52] <qwebirc27966> Hi everybody, just need some help, I'm currently under Windows 10 with 4 GPU Nvidia 1080 ti on different PCI-e port, I made an ubuntu usb stick with 18.04 in UEFI, when I reboot the computer, there is a loop stuck on PCI error severity=correct and I cannot launch the installation
[17:53] <qwebirc27966> I tried to add pcie_aspm=off and pcie=nomsi
[17:53] <qwebirc27966> into the grub cfg file
[17:53] <qwebirc27966> but it doesnt change something
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc27966: did you try a !nomodeset ?
[17:53] <qwebirc27966> nope
[17:53] <qwebirc27966> should I ?
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | qwebirc27966 yes
[17:54] <nacc> qwebirc27966: did you run `sudo update-grub` after modifying the config?
[17:54] <OldHat0> motte,  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171924  was similar to this that I used
[17:54] <qwebirc27966> nacc: Im under an usb stick installation in UEFI mode, impossible to update grub
[17:54] <qwebirc27966> ok lets test nomodeset
[17:54] <qwebirc27966> thank
[17:54] <masaki> motte, yeah look into tlp configs i'm on thinkpad as well. i don't use the card anymore to test but definitely power related iirc
[17:55] <qwebirc27966> gimme 2 min
[17:55] <nacc> qwebirc27966: so when you say modify grub config, what did you mean?
[17:55] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, it's diff with UEFI
[17:55] <qwebirc27966> nacc: changing the lines into grub.cfg from my usb stick key using another computer
[17:55] <ioria> qwebirc27966, not grub.cfg but /etc/default/grub
[17:56] <nacc> qwebirc27966: doesn't make any sense
[17:56] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, example in fedore for UEFI     sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg
[17:56] <nacc> qwebirc27966: for a live usb, you would edit in the grub menu itself
[17:56] <qwebirc27966> I was changing F:\boot\grub\grub.cfg
[17:57] <qwebirc27966> from my USB stick key
[17:57] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, UEFI is in separate device/partition
[17:57] <oerheks> changing grub on a live iso??
[17:57] <qwebirc27966> yep
[17:57] <qwebirc27966> ok let me check the other partition
[17:58] <ioria> qwebirc27966,  why can't you access your installed system ?
[17:58] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, LiveUSB will not save that grub config
[17:58] <nacc> qwebirc27966: the foolproof way is to apend to the live usb grub menu
[17:58] <OldHat0> its squashfs
[17:59] <nacc> ioria: they say they get some pci errorrs
[17:59] <qwebirc27966> yep but before getting the grub menu, there is a loop with PCI-error etc...
[17:59] <ioria> nacc, ah
[17:59] <nacc> qwebirc27966: wait, *beofre* grub?
[17:59] <nacc> qwebirc27966: uh, that's nothing to do with ubuntu then
[17:59] <qwebirc27966> yep sometimes before sometimes after
[17:59] <nacc> qwebirc27966: ... doesn't make sense. before and after are totally different environemtns
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> Im just telling what happened lol
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> sometimes I can see the menu
[18:00] <nacc> qwebirc27966: they wouldn't be the same messages
[18:00] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, sounds like you may need to load some module in temp grub edit
[18:00] <nacc> qwebirc27966: so you're not telling the full "what happened"
[18:00] <ioria> qwebirc27966, and you still need chroot for changing /etc/default/grub
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> ok let say i can see the menu
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> but if I select install ubuntu
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> the loop happens
[18:00] <qwebirc27966> what should I do then ?
[18:01] <qwebirc27966> and try ubuntu = black screen, nothing happen
[18:02] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, did you try temp grub edit, nomodeset ?
[18:02] <qwebirc27966> I'm trying now, wait
[18:02] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, graphics card PCI ?
[18:04] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, ioria  use    cat /proc/cmdline    to see what actually loaded
[18:05] <nacc> OldHat0: well taht won't work if they can't boot :)
[18:06] <MacBuntu> Hello, everyone!
[18:08] <OldHat0> nacc, right, i did mean after, since that will show temporary  change
[18:08] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, PCI is graphics ?  what card ?
[18:08] <qwebirc27966> the thing is I do not have any linux already installed on my PC, the goal is to install ubuntu from a USB stick key, now I got access to grub
[18:09] <qwebirc27966> 4 x GTX 1080ti 11 gb
[18:09] <qwebirc27966> its a PC to make some A.I research
[18:09] <qwebirc27966> using tensorflow
[18:09] <qwebirc27966> I got 45 Tflops
[18:09] <OldHat0> qwebirc27966, dual boot ?
[18:09] <qwebirc27966> not, replacing win10 by ubuntu
[18:09] <MacBuntu> Does anybody know how to change the keyboard layout on Ubuntu 18.04? I've got a mac with Ubuntu installed and the keyboard layout doesn't match a Apple keyboard.
[18:10] <OldHat0> MacBuntu, settings > region & language > input sources
[18:11] <qwebirc27966> Is it possible to set nomodeset from grub command line ?
[18:13] <nacc> qwebirc27966: edit ('e') and append it in place
[18:13] <MacBuntu> OldHat0 I've already tried that.   I just use alt+tab
[18:28] <OldHat0> arooni, if you alt+tab then hover mouse it will also show multiple instances of apps
[18:33] <the_shit_fukker> NAACP stands for Negros Against All Caucasian People
[18:33] <OldHat0> drawing your own lines for leverage ?
[18:33] <Richard_Cavell> ops please
[18:34] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: i've let them know
[18:37] <OldHat0> how do i favorite a channel in hexchat ?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> OldHat0: right click channel tab/auto join
[18:37] <oerheks> stand on the channel in the list , right click, autojoin
[18:38] <oerheks> or edit your connection
[18:38] <SimonNL> select the channel name and click favor     ctrl,s
[18:38] <OldHat0> lotuspsychje, Duh.  TY   been a while since I used IRC. forgot
[18:38] <SimonNL> select the channel name and click favor     ctrl,s   OldHat0
[18:39] <SimonNL> you siad favor but meant autojoin ok
[18:40] <OldHat0> as long as autojoin checkbox saves it, that will work.  Ctrl S seems to set SERVER as fav
[18:40] <OldHat0> TY all
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[18:45] <masaki> in windows, when i alt-tab, i can use shift+tab to navigate backwards
[18:45] <masaki> in ubuntu, it just seems to go forward
[18:45] <cholcombe_> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[18:45] <cholcombe_> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[18:45] <nacc> masaki: alt+shift+tab goes backwards here
[18:45] <masaki> is there a way to navigate backwards? (i know arrow keys work but that's too far)
[18:46] <OldHat0> masaki, hold alt+ tab and use arrows/mouse
[18:46] <masaki> nacc, hmmm that's strange. it just goes forwards for me as if i was just pressing alt-tab
[18:46] <nacc> masaki: what version of ubuntu?
[18:46] <masaki> nacc, 18.04 with default gnome
[18:46] <OldHat0> masaki, shift+alt_tab goes backwards
[18:47] <nacc> masaki: same here
[18:47] <masaki> OldHat0, it doesn't for me :(
[18:47] <nacc> masaki: i do have alternatetab extension installed
[18:47] <masaki> nacc, okay i will try that.
[18:48] <masaki> wait i think i know why its happening
[18:48] <masaki> alt+shift changes my language keyboard
[18:49] <nacc> masaki: ah yes, that could be
[18:49] <OldHat0> masaki, shift first
[18:49] <masaki> so maybe it is overwriting
[18:50] <OldHat0> masaki, maybe you have different keyboard shortcuts ?
[18:53] <OldHat0> masaki,  doesn't just hover mouse in upper corner show overview of all open windows ?
[18:55] <OldHat0> masaki, and others,  I recommend the gtile extension in gnome.  So awesome
[18:55] <masaki> OldHat0, yeah hovering mouse works jsut find and also doing alt+tab and then using arrow keys
[18:55] <masaki> OldHat0, maybe i'm being picky but i like navigating using as little movement as possible since its quicker and i don't have to shift hand from the typing position
[18:55] <awc737> Can I ask questions about LXD here?
[18:55] <masaki> i'm tying to disable the alt+shift for switching language, if anyone is familar please let me know how i can set it to "None"
[18:56] <masaki> i am using ibus btw
[18:58] <OldHat> masaki, so keyboard may have different combos then.  I use altGR keyboard but yours probably very different
[18:59] <Alina-malina> last time i installed LXC on my distro it fucked up dhcp lol
[19:00] <OldHat> Alina-malina, so much for containing ...
[19:00] <Alina-malina> ye
[19:01] <nacc> awc737: there is also #lxcontainers
[19:01] <nacc> Alina-malina: LXC != LXD.
[19:01] <OldHat> Alina-malina, actually maybe have helped contain in this world LOL
[19:01] <nacc> Alina-malina: also, please watch the language
[19:01] <OldHat> air-gapped you
[19:01] <Xard> to my annoyance I noticed that alt+shift changes input language and the binding isn't listed in the keyboard shortcuts: only super+space and shift+super+space (on ubuntu 18.04)
[19:01] <Alina-malina> meh
[19:02] <masaki> Xard, yeah. i normally just use super+space
[19:02] <masaki> Xard, but if i recall correctly, there's a terminal menu to set it too
[19:02] <masaki> Xard, i just don't know how to get there...
[19:02] <Alina-malina> i assume we talking about linux containers?
[19:03] <Xard> though i found some information about dconf key at "/org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options" which might have values ['grp:alt_shift_toggle','grp_led:scroll']
[19:03] <OldHat> so ubuntu different shortcuts than gnome defaults ? Xard masaki
[19:03] <Xard> and removing the 'grp:alt_shift_toggle' and leaving the value as ['grp_led:scroll'] fixed it \o/
[19:04] <nacc> Alina-malina: they haven't asked a question yet, so we don't know
[19:04] <masaki> OldHat, I believe its unrelated to keyboard shortcuts provided by gnome because it doesn't even show alt+shift.
[19:04] <masaki> Xard, will try that
[19:04] <Xard> now scroll lock indicates non-default input method and alt+shift doesn't get consumed
[19:04] <Xard> masaki: using graphical dconf editor is recommended
[19:05] <OldHat> masaki, right, your original question was auto-hiding of window list ?
[19:05] <mahdi> how can i install webcma driver in ubuntu artful ?
[19:06] <masaki> OldHat, it was about alt+tabbing and why i couldn't use alt+tab+shift and tab to go backwards in the list
[19:06] <Alina-malina> nacc, i dont have any other word then to describe what happened, because after installing LXC it disabled something in network configuration, and eachtime i have to run dhclient and assing ip address to my ethernet ineterface lol...
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> mahdi: artful is end of life now
[19:06] <masaki> OldHat, I learned that that wasn't working because alt+shift is bound to switiching input
[19:06] <Alina-malina> when i reboot
[19:06] <masaki> OldHat, so now the goal is to remove that keybinding
[19:07] <george_> I hope nobody sees my IP...
[19:07] <Xard> masaki: this wasn't an issue but some update while ago presented an odd dialog notice during the updates about the language selection
[19:07] <Xard> wasn't an issue before*
[19:08] <Alina-malina> george_, i can see ur ip address
[19:08] <binaryhermit> hmm, stupid unimportant question: I see it looks like 18.04.1 is coming out tomorrow.  Anyone know approximately when tomorrow?
[19:08] <george_> Please, don't boot me...
[19:08] <george_> I am tired of flood attacks
[19:08] <Xard> masaki: and now alt+shift+tab works
[19:08] <Alina-malina> george_, why dont you go to #freenode  and ask for clock?
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> binaryhermit: are you on xenial?
[19:09] <nacc> Alina-malina: LXC or LXD? did you setup a bridge and not do it right?
[19:09] <Alina-malina> nacc, i just did apt-get install LXC and that thing happened to me....
[19:09] <binaryhermit> I'm already on bionic, I just want to grab the ISOs in case I need to reinstall
[19:09] <george_> A question, is Kubuntu supported here too ?
[19:09] <nacc> Alina-malina: lxc is not the same as lxd; did you really meant to use lxc?
[19:09] <binaryhermit> plus to donate bandwidth via torrent
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> binaryhermit: then you can update right now
[19:09] <nacc> george_: yes
[19:10] <nacc> binaryhermit: 18.04.1 is already out
[19:10] <george_> Thanks God.
[19:10] <Alina-malina> nacc, i dont know, i just wanted to use containers
[19:10] <george_> I just moved from Windows
[19:10] <nacc> Alina-malina: for what purpose? if you don't have existing containers, i'd use lxd
[19:10] <george_> I am using ASUS ROG GL552VW...
[19:10] <george_> Was pain in the ass to install
[19:10] <Xard> "Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS" yeah, it seems so
[19:10] <Xard> from about screen
[19:10] <OldHat> masaki, Xard   super+space changes my keyboard, so yours is mapped differently ? in Settings > Region & Language > Input sources > options  I can even set diff keyboard for diff windows
[19:10] <Alina-malina> nacc, no i dont have LXC, like george_ i am new, but to containers, i wanted to build some virtual networks, bridges and basic routers to train on them ,but i got into that issue
[19:11] <george_> Everyone here hates Microsoft like me ?
[19:11] <Xard> OldHat: the problem doesn't have anything to do with keyboard bindings you can set from the configuration menu
[19:11] <nacc> george_: please stay ontopic.
[19:11] <Alina-malina> i mean i dont have any existing containers
[19:11] <nacc> george_: just ubuntu support issues here
[19:11] <george_> Alright.
[19:11] <Xard> OldHat: it's about xkb_options which override gnome keyboard settings if set
[19:11] <george_> I actually have a question.
[19:11] <Alina-malina> nacc, will apt-purge remove it completely? or do i have to redo some networking configurations?
[19:11] <OldHat> Alina-malina, nacc   arent flatpak, app images, snaps  containers to some extent ?
[19:12] <Xard> OldHat: and some update set this weird alt+shift xkb-options keybinding
[19:12] <george_> I have my Bluetooth headphones, but even after connecting them to my laptop, audio still runs through speakers
[19:12] <george_> Can I make audio go through headphones instead ?
[19:12] <nacc> Alina-malina: it should, yes
[19:12] <nacc> OldHat: not in the same sesne as lxd, no
[19:12] <Alina-malina> ok thanks nacc, ok tnx
[19:12] <nacc> OldHat: they are more like sandboxes
[19:13] <nacc> OldHat: which one could argue is a like a form of containerization, but it's not really a full container
[19:13] <george_> I mean, my headphones are set as default but still goes through speakers.
[19:13] <george_> They are Bluetooth headphones but... how to fix it ?
[19:14] <Xard> and here's the source of the information: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/333368/gnome-3-22-disable-altshift-keyboard-layout-switching
[19:14] <OldHat> nacc,  ever get qubes installed ?  I could never get to work
[19:14] <masaki> Xard, you are absolutely right there was an update that changed it
[19:14] <nacc> OldHat: never tried
[19:14] <masaki> Xard, happened very recently
[19:18] <masaki> Xard, OldHat, I fixed the issue by the solution Xard provided
[19:18] <OldHat> masaki Xard   XKB was installed by each of you ?  or because non western  keyboard/language ?
[19:19] <OldHat> masaki, Glad to hear you fixed it
[19:19] <masaki> I use non-western keyboard/language (two) and like Xard was saying, there was an update recently that must have added the line in xkb-options
[19:20] <OldHat> masaki, hopefully the fix didnt break other languages, etc
[19:20] <masaki> Now alt+tab+shift works as expected and shift+alt isn't bound to anything which is what i needed
[19:21] <masaki> OldHat, yeah typically when i switch language inputs, i just use super+space which is the gnome default (so it was redundant to use alt+shift which lacks gtk visuals too)
[19:22] <OldHat> masaki, Does your superkey + space control keyboard layout ?
[19:22] <OldHat> masaki, LOL at same thoughts
[19:22] <OldHat> masaki, may I ask what languages ?
[19:22] <masaki> Да!
[19:23] <OldHat> masaki,  ?   greek / russian ?  IDK LOL
[19:23] <masaki> Russian hahah
[19:24] <masaki> 한국어
[19:24] <OldHat> masaki, google translate thinks you are bulgarian
[19:24] <masaki> wtf
[19:24] <OldHat> masaki, japanese, i would say
[19:25] <masaki> OldHat, you are smarter than google AI super computer
[19:25] <OldHat> masaki, google translate is much source of laughs
[19:26] <OldHat> masaki, LOL, I doubt that. I can hardly play chess
[19:26] <acetakwas> My server still shows space used up.
[19:27] <acetakwas> I have just cleared the log that filled it up.
[19:27] <acetakwas> -> /var/log/uwsgi.log
[19:27] <acetakwas> What can I do to get back the full space.
[19:27] <OldHat> masaki, so it's Korean ?
[19:28] <masaki> OldHat, yeah i use korean / russian (mostly for learning foreign language on duolingo)
[19:29] <acetakwas>  /dev/xvda1     ext4      7.8G  7.3G   50M 100% /
[19:29] <OldHat> masaki, How about some easier ones LOL
[19:29] <OldHat> all mine are latin based
[19:29] <masaki> OldHat, Xard  i can confirm that everything works, input toggling, alt-tab behavior it's great thanks for the help both of you
[19:30] <wfreeman> Is this the right channel to ask about installation/boot issues? I've been using ubuntu for a decade and I've never seen stuff fail as hard as it is trying to install ubuntu on a new laptop
[19:30] <masaki> OldHat, lol I figured I want to travel there in a few years so I'm just trying to get the basics down
[19:30] <bemo> not really an Ubuntu question, but if there's a solution, I suspect one of you would know -- is there a way to make an nfs relative symbolic link that also works when mounting that nfs share on a windows machine?
[19:30] <OldHat> masaki, no problem. Just dont ask me about the korean language
[19:31] <masaki> OldHat, lol. you've mastered english, you can do it again!
[19:32] <masaki> OldHat, good chatting with u and thanks for the help again. got to go for now
[19:32] <Xard> nice
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | bemo
[19:33] <OldHat> <  on a mission to master english again !   Feels so monty python, no ?
[19:38] <qwebirc56542> hello please im using ubuntu 18.04 tls i want change my system to windows :( but i can't do this seccussfely
[19:39] <bemo> ubottu: thanks -- I understand NFS in general... was hoping for a solution to the specific problem that a linux-based symbolic link (relative path) on NFS does not appear to work correctly under Windows (but works fine on Ubuntu).
[19:39] <bemo> lotuspsychje: guess that should have been directed to you.  :)
[19:39] <qwebirc56542> when i create bootable usb flash  when i press f12 and want to format it's don't give me anythin
[19:39] <qwebirc56542> g
[19:40] <OldHat> bemo, windows requires ntfs ?  Cant you install linux in windows these days ?
[19:40] <bemo> OldHat: not really a solution for the "business" types around our company
[19:41] <bemo> OldHat: and the nfs mount works okay on Windows... I can see files/directories... just the symbolic links no longer work as desired.
[19:41] <OldHat> bemo, LOL at "business types"  That has to be some PAID windows thingy that works
[19:41] <leftyfb> qwebirc56542: install woeusb from this ppa. https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard  # you do not need to format the flash drive.
[19:43] <bemo> OldHat: preaching to the choir -- I'm just hoping for a symbolic link solution that works on both Ubuntu and Windows (over NFS)
[19:44] <OldHat> bemo, so you are using NTFS already but windows doesnt understand the links ?
[19:45] <bemo> OldHat: no... we're using an NFS NAS for common storage... and mounting it on Linux and Windows machines... but any symbolic links we've created on the Linux side don't work on the Windows side
[19:46] <OldHat> bemo https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/
[19:48] <acetakwas> I have just cleared the log that filled it up.
[19:48] <acetakwas> My server still shows space used up.
[19:48] <acetakwas> -> /var/log/uwsgi.log
[19:48] <bemo> OldHat: thanks!  had seen something similar, but wasn't sure how to create "mklink" links from the Linux side of things.
[19:48] <acetakwas> What can I do to get back the full space.
[19:48] <acetakwas> My server is down. Someone please help!!!
[19:48] <wfreeman> Is this the right channel to ask about installation/boot issues? I've been using ubuntu for a decade and I've never seen stuff fail as hard as it is trying to install ubuntu on a new laptop. USB drives won't boot reliably, installer works but fails to install GRUB (leaving the whole system unusable), etc.
[19:49] <wfreeman> Google isn't turning up anything reliable.
[19:49] <nacc> acetakwas: pastebin releavnt outputs (df -h, du with appropriate flags, ls -ahl of relevant directories, etc)
[19:49] <nacc> acetakwas: what did you do to clear up the log, etc.
[19:51] <tina_> i'm having trouble logging in with my user after a bunch of my nvidia stuff was updated.
[19:52] <tina_> if i try to login as my user, i just get kicked back to the login screen, but if i use a different user, i can login without issue.
[19:54] <coz_> tina_,  out of curiosity, if you log off and log ito "ubuntu on wayland" can you use your original user?
[19:54] <tina_> nope, same problem
[19:55] <coz_> tina_,  darn , not coing u with anything at the moment
[19:55] <coz_> coming
[19:56] <leprom> hello
[19:56] <leprom> everybody
[19:56] <leprom> hello
[19:57] <OldHat0> tina, Is the user you cant log in with root ?
[19:58] <OldHat0> bemo, Did that work ?  Still looking stuff up here
[20:00] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ' - see then if we need to look at (d)isk (u)sage .
[20:02] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: Thanks
[20:02] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: https://paste.ofcode.org/c6iRB5nDT2nUYEP7AyzZiS
[20:02] <acetakwas> nacc: ^
[20:02] <acetakwas> nacc: I only `rm` the log file.
[20:03] <FreeBDSM> why is there no `sublimetext` available in ubuntu repo?
[20:03] <acetakwas> Apparently, I had been getting a disk full warning for about an hour, but I wasn't available to attend to it.
[20:04] <acetakwas> So I got in late and quickly removed the largest file I could find (3.2GB)
[20:04] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See if this is not a kernel abundance issue .
[20:04] <acetakwas> Turned out to be the uwsgi.log file.
[20:04] <oerheks> FreeBDSM, sublime text is commercial
[20:04] <FreeBDSM> oerheks: it has a trial version
[20:04] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: https://paste.ofcode.org/kjCFpkbfv6FNEbHxgkwDty
[20:05] <FreeBDSM> I used it on FreeBSD
[20:05] <oerheks> FreeBDSM, there is a snap https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text
[20:05] <OldHat0> acetakwas, oerheks xvda1 shows conflicting use%
[20:05] <oerheks> * if you trust the author/maintainer
[20:05] <FreeBDSM> oerheks: nice
[20:06] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Yes.
[20:06] <acetakwas> OldHat0: I think one reflects the deletion I made.
[20:08] <OldHat0> acetakwas, even so, seems it didnt completely delete it, unless stuff was being added during that deletion
[20:08] <OldHat0> acetakwas, You are not worried about data loss on that ?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: A *LOT* of old kernels ... try ' sudo apt autoremove --purge ' .
[20:09] <OldHat0> acetakwas, NO
[20:09] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: Done.
[20:09] <acetakwas> OldHat0: How do you mean?
[20:10] <acetakwas> On removal of old kernels:
[20:10] <acetakwas>  /dev/xvda1     ext4      7.8G  6.3G  1.1G  86% /
[20:10] <OldHat0> Bashing-om, Huh ?  Removing what now ?  acetakwas these are files or programs ?
[20:10] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: And now we have cleared space ? ' df -h ' .
[20:10] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: ^
[20:11] <acetakwas> That's 1.1G free.
[20:11] <bemo> OldHat0: unfortunately, I don't have a Windows machine to test it at the moment... need to borrow time from someone else, when they're back...  (going to see if they're back from lunch yet)
[20:11] <OldHat0> acetakwas, Bashing-om Again, these are programs on that drive ?
[20:11] <Bashing-om> OldHat0: Whhat I see is many many old kernels .. autoremove - if the package manager is still consistent - will remove them .
[20:12] <OldHat0> bemo, How does windows access nfs ?  with samba or WSL or ?
[20:12] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: What else can I do to clear more space?
[20:12] <acetakwas> You know I previously deleted a 3GB file.
[20:12] <acetakwas> That doesn't reflect yet.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: And is /var filling up once more ?
[20:13] <OldHat0> acetakwas, why saving old kernels on a 7 GB drive ?  Is it some USB install ?
[20:13] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: Can't be. I already stopped the program.
[20:13] <acetakwas> OldHat0: I didn't save it. That's the system saving it itself.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: How did you remove that 3GB file ? still in the .trash ?
[20:13] <OldHat0> acetakwas, I would to a fscheck and an updatedb or something
[20:14] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: https://paste.ofcode.org/9QFDXRXaMANYuNWbrqJwUQ
[20:14] <OldHat0> Bashing-om, LOL that would suck
[20:14] <bemo> OldHat0: I believe they use something like this to mount it as a drive (e.g., drive "H"): "net use H: nas-01:/mnt/vol1/files/ /persistent:yes"
[20:15] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Of you do not care about what is in the system cache . ' sudo apt clean ' will clean that out .
[20:15] <bemo> OldHat0: still not there, and I have a meeting in 15 minutes... may need to revisit this later.  thanks for the help!
[20:15] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: 100 MB
[20:15] <acetakwas> Any other thing?
[20:16] <OldHat0> bemo, I dont mind learning stuff.  I will keep looking.  Luck to you
[20:17] <FreeBDSM> I did `apt remove zfsutils-linux; dpkg -l` and I still see it in the list, how so?
[20:17] <OldHat0> acetakwas, you dont have a backup/snapshot ?
[20:17] <acetakwas> Should I reboot the server?
[20:17] <FreeBDSM> is there an `apt` analogy to `yum list installed`?
[20:18] <acetakwas> I can get my server admin to switch to a backup later.
[20:18] <acetakwas> But this is an emergency operation that only I can attend to right now.
[20:18] <OldHat0> FreeBDSM,   --help
[20:18] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: 'du' from root does not report anything now alarming .
[20:18] <FreeBDSM> OldHat0: didn't work
[20:18] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: Just a lot of files.
[20:19] <CodeMouse92> FreeBDSM: `sudo apt list | grep installed`
[20:19] <FreeBDSM> oh, `apt list --installed`
[20:19] <FreeBDSM> nvm
[20:19] <CodeMouse92> Or that
[20:19] <CodeMouse92> wow. how did I miss the obvious
[20:19] <OldHat0> acetakwas, it from a virt machine.  Can you back it up as is with rsync ?  Then reboot and hope it resolves on boot fscheck ?
[20:20] <FreeBDSM> apt is weird
[20:21] <OldHat0> CodeMouse92, It happens LOL
[20:21] <FreeBDSM> `apt list --installed` lists `xul-ext-ubufox`. `apt search xul-ext-ubusoft` finds nothing.
[20:22] <FreeBDSM> could anyone tell me why is that so?
[20:23] <FreeBDSM> aw, god damn it
[20:23] <FreeBDSM> I am blind
[20:23] <FreeBDSM> `ubufox != ubusoft`
[20:23] <OldHat0> search maybe looks in description not title
[20:23] <CodeMouse92> FreeBDSM: Haha, I missed it too. YAY DYSLEXIA!
[20:24] <OldHat0> i am suddenly crosseyed
[20:24] <CodeMouse92> That said, there are times a package is only installed as part of a metapackage, but not individually. That throws me off sometimes
[20:24] <FreeBDSM> CodeMouse92: YAY ALEXYDIS!
[20:24] <CodeMouse92> FreeBDSM: It's not dyslexic being easy. :P
[20:25] <OldHat0> dnf is good with that stuff
[20:25] <OldHat0> rpm s
[20:25] <FreeBDSM> yum
[20:25] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: Is there a GUI/Trash on this server ? Have you looked in trash ? even though I do not see a .Trash folder listed :)
[20:25] <OldHat0> yum shall be assimilated
[20:25] <FreeBDSM> suddenly, there's a yum for ubuntu!
[20:25] <oerheks> it is part of an other package, i guess , you installed manually or 3rd party repo
[20:25] <FreeBDSM> woah
[20:26] <OldHat0> maybe for snaps or flatpak
[20:26] <acetakwas> I rebooted, and now have 4.4G free.
[20:26] <acetakwas> Bashing-om, OldHat0, oerheks ^
[20:26] <acetakwas> Thanks.
[20:26] <OldHat0> acetakwas, % 's   match now ?
[20:27] <FreeBDSM> `snap list` `No snaps are installed yet. Try 'snap install hello-world'.`
[20:27] <acetakwas> Yes.
[20:27] <OldHat0> acetakwas, what was virt of ?
[20:27] <acetakwas> OldHat0: I don't get you.
[20:27] <Bashing-om> acetakwas: :) I could live with that as '/' is but 7.8G .
[20:28] <OldHat0> acetakwas, It is files for a KVM virtual machine.  What Distro / OS ?
[20:28] <acetakwas> Bashing-om: Yes.
[20:28] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Ubuntu.
[20:28] <acetakwas> It's an Ec2.
[20:29] <OldHat0> acetakwas, /  and /home in same partition ?
[20:29] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Yes.
[20:29] <OldHat0> acetakwas, that is the smallest distro install ever LOL ?  Ubuntu ?
[20:30] <OldHat0> acetakwas, ec2 is a cloud image ... so disposable ?
[20:31] <OldHat0> acetakwas, so this is in the cloud ?  Interesting
[20:31] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Yes.
[20:34] <george__> How to open PulseAudio Equalizer ?
[20:35] <acetakwas> george__: pavucontrol
[20:35] <george__> acerakwas: as in Console ?
[20:35] <acetakwas> george__: Yes.
[20:35] <george__> thanks
[20:36] <george__> acetakwas: Uhm... then what? I don't see an equalizer
[20:36] <OldHat0> acetakwas, You said server ?  Have you ever spun up a machine from like an android to use as REAL computer ?  Is that possible ?
[20:37] <OldHat0> tab or ncurses instructions
[20:38] <OldHat0> acetakwas, you are in US ?  Used digital ocean before ?
[20:39] <acetakwas> OldHat0: What's a better term? It's a "VPS"
[20:39] <lilkuz2005> i am running into some performance issues with ubuntu 18.04 running steam games, i have an older radeon hd 7970 3gb and a xeon x5460 running 3.8ghz with 12gb of ram and in games like dirt showdown im getting like 30 fps
[20:39] <acetakwas> The 'S' is "server".
[20:39] <acetakwas> OldHat0: I haven't that.
[20:39] <acetakwas> s/that/done that
[20:39] <acetakwas> OldHat0: In Africa.
[20:39] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Yes, I use DO everyday.
[20:40] <acetakwas> george__: It should come up.
[20:40] <lilkuz2005> should i replace my radeon 7970 with a gtx 980 ?
[20:41] <george__> well man, fuck it, it doesn't work
[20:41] <george__> I don't see an equalizer
[20:41] <george__> I will just lookup myself, thanks for the help
[20:42] <OldHat0> acetakwas, ec2 is amazon
[20:43] <lilkuz2005> going to shutdown and swap out my 7970 for my spare gtx980 and see if performance is any better in linux
[20:44] <tripelb> i have an hp laptop. the aging owner forgot his password but his fingerprint is associated with it. can I install a linux partition to use it while I am working on how to unlock it?
[20:44] <acetakwas> OldHat0: Yes.
[20:45] <OldHat0> acetakwas, Do you have any certificates ?
[20:55] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: It depends on what the password is. If it's on the Windows system, yes. If it's on the BIOS itself, no.
[20:56] <CodeMouse92> However, another mitigating factor is whether there is space on the hard drive to install the partition
[20:56] <CodeMouse92> In my experience, you have to use Windows to resize its own partition.
[20:57] <CodeMouse92> It *is* possible to do it with GParted, but you need to be extra careful.
[20:57] <CodeMouse92> See also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
[20:58] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: One other option, barring others, would be to use a Live image of Ubuntu to work on the computer, without actually creating the Linux partition outright. This would be the best option if the intended user doesn't want Linux on the system in the end.
[20:58] <CodeMouse92> (Boot from USB stick is recommended, or else DVD if necessary)
[21:00] <clu> When I hit the "super key" and I search for a file, it only searches for files that I have opened once. Is there a way for me to tweak what files / dirs it will search?
[21:02] <masaki> Weird keyboard input behavior. I use Russian and Korean. I can't type in Russian when the language is chosen as the third input under Settings > Region & Languages > Input Sources.
[21:03] <masaki> Took a while but got everything to work only when Russian is sandwiched between English and Korean (or 2nd input in the list)
[21:03] <3NAAAT73R> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[21:03] <3NAAAT73R> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[21:03] <masaki> But if Russian is in the third spot (or last spot), it just types in English alphabet instead of Cyrillic
[21:04] <masaki> Not sure if this is unique to my system but if anyone has the time, please test and see.
[21:08] <iczero16> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[21:13] <tripelb> CodeMouse92: (nice nick) he doesnt want it back but I would like to be able to sell it with windows on it.  It's maybe 2 years old
[21:13] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: In that case, use a Live DVD
[21:13] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: Also, I'd recommend reinstalling Windows outright. It's a personal information security thing.
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> If it's Windows 10, it's already got the key associated with the BIOS, so you need only pop in a DVD (official ISOs available from MS for free), and fresh install it
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> In the meanwhile, just use a Live Linux image
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> BTW: you'll find that there's a market for selling those with Ubuntu installed OEM-style. Just saying.
[21:14] <tripelb> CodeMouse92: ok. can I dl and make the dvd using a linux usb?
[21:14] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: yes
[21:15] <CodeMouse92> You can burn any ISO onto a disk using a Live Boot of Ubuntu
[21:15] <CodeMouse92> May need to `sudo apt install brasero` to do it, but you can do that from Live
[21:16] <tripelb> CodeMouse92: can I dl it onto the windows partition? i dont think it will fit in ram. or in the library ? win7 iir
[21:16] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: This is why you boot from USB
[21:16] <CodeMouse92> Ah, Windows 7. Let's move this to #ubuntu-offtopic, since this is outside of Ubuntu domain
[21:17] <tripelb> right i said usb because you cant boot from optical and burn to it.
[21:17] <CodeMouse92> Hah, fair point
[21:18] <tripelb> thinks of recycling wireframe woman from the galaxy song in a monty python movie
[21:18] <CodeMouse92> Unless...well, see, I have an external drive as well as the internal
[21:18] <tripelb> so usb
[21:18] <CodeMouse92> tripelb: Anyway, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <tripelb> well I do but usb is normal
[21:18] <tripelb> ok
[21:18] <CodeMouse92> (Yeah, USB doesn't work on some models of Lenovo Thinkpad)
[21:19] <tripelb> hmm i was supposed to be in london today.
[21:20] <tripelb> CodeMouse92: i cannot. i have to recover my nick i asked what the command was in freenode. will do it ..bye
[21:40] <vlt> Hello. How can I prevent a file system to be mounted when plugging in the USB drive?
[21:41] <yano|> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[21:43] <xamithan> Depends on your file manager,  I think you can just set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount to false if you are using nautilus
[21:44] <vlt> xamithan: If that's a file manager thing I could just logout from the DE and use a tty login instead?
[21:45]  * vlt tries that
[21:46] <xamithan> Probably,  never tried
[21:48] <Whiskey0> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[21:48] <Matthew_23> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[21:48] <Matthew_23> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[21:50] <snapdata> where do i buy ubuntu
[21:51] <compdoc> maybe on ebay
[21:51] <snapdata> what
[21:51] <brainwash> the ubuntu website?
[21:51] <snapdata> i cant find an order page
[21:51] <compdoc> cant just d/l it? its free
[21:51] <snapdata> this is terrible customer service
[21:51] <compdoc> lol
[21:52] <snapdata> will you give me a coupon code for the inconvenience
[21:52] <compdoc> done
[21:52] <snapdata> what
[21:52] <brainwash> https://buy.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <compdoc> 50% off, today only
[21:52] <brainwash> there you go
[21:53] <snapdata> thank you
[21:53] <snapdata> $150 per year?!
[21:53] <snapdata> my son got me the windows for free
[21:54] <snapdata> no thanks
[21:54] <xamithan> You can download ubuntu free,  just no support
[21:55] <brainwash> ehm
[21:55] <brainwash> you get community support!
[21:55] <compdoc> he's trolling
[21:56] <coz_>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER coz_ ckngqqwgmqek
[21:58] <hggdh> brainwash: please don't do that
[21:59] <brainwash> hggdh: why highlight me?
[21:59] <hggdh> coz_: it is probably a good idea to change your freenode password
[22:00] <coz_> hggdh, oh darn, that showed up?
[22:00] <hggdh> brainwash: actually, also valid for compdoc . Please do not reply like that
[22:00] <hggdh> coz_: completely
[22:00] <xamithan> Gotta watch those spaces before the /
[22:00] <coz_> hggdh,  now I have to remember how
[22:00] <brainwash> hggdh: you mean in a helpful way?
[22:01] <tripel3xb> tripleb is now me.
[22:03] <hggdh> brainwash: you, pretty much, played with the OP. This is not the spirit of support
[22:03] <hggdh> compdoc: ^ same applies to you
[22:04] <brainwash> my answers were not correct?
[22:18] <hggdh> brainwash: you are correct (and I was wrong): this is primarily for compdoc
[22:20] <CodeMouse92> Wow, so we actually lost a potential user because of a joke?
[22:20] <CodeMouse92> That's actually kinda sad.
[22:20] <vlt> xamithan: Works.
[22:22] <ryuo> CodeMouse92: Who?
[22:22] <hggdh> folks, back to topic, please
[22:28] <Guest97794> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[22:36] <ash_worksi> if i am install postgresql from source using make install; how can I make it so that it installs the utilities (initdb, pg_ctl, etc) to /usr/bin ?
[22:36] <ash_worksi> (or please advise on a better channel :) )
[22:37] <ash_worksi> I tried ./configure --prefix=/usr/bin but that didn't seem to work
[22:38] <Stryyker26> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[22:42] <Guest47999> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[22:42] <Guest47999> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[22:46] <arooni> is there a way to disable the behavior of when my mouse goes to top left ; the activities window shows up ?  also 2) is there a way to trigger the dock/app list on left by a keystroke that doesnt trigger the 'activities' view.  18.04
[22:46] <arooni> assuming auto hide is on
[22:50] <ordinate000> ok so
[22:50] <ordinate000> i found the root cause of my weird intermittent freezing
[22:50] <ordinate000> my nvidia driver keeps reconnecting itself to my computer like every half second
[22:50] <oerheks> gnome tweak tool has that setting, activities overview hot corner  in topbar section
[22:51] <ordinate000> /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2610]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): VIZ D32hn-E4 (DFP-1): connected
[22:51] <ordinate000> now how to get it to stop doing this is an entirely different thing
[22:52] <ordinate000> this is hell
[22:54] <ordinate000> if i delete gdm-x-session will i stop being able to look at my computer
[22:57] <ordinate000> whats the thing to reinstall drivers again
[22:57] <infernix4> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[22:57] <infernix4> or maybe this blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/
[22:58] <infernix418> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[22:58] <ordinate000> this channel sucks
[22:58] <ahi2> dam spam
[22:59] <N3X15> Dunno why they haven't put that website on the spamfilter yet
[22:59] <Bashing-om> ordinate000: Fully updated system and ' sudo apt purge nvidia ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' with any old config files also removed .
[22:59] <ordinate000> thanks bud
[23:02] <ordinate000> didnt work, syslog is still being spammed with reconnections
[23:02] <fallenour> I just deleted a file with rm I dont think I should have, what are my options?
[23:03] <ordinate000> fallenour: press undo
[23:03] <fallenour> ordinate000: im in via ssh
[23:03] <Looking23> Hey, I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/
[23:03] <ordinate000> ctrl-z
[23:04] <ordinate000> maybe i can just not use ubuntu drivers
[23:04] <ordinate000> HERE GOES NOTHIN
[23:08] <ordinate000> tried to uninstall gdm3 while using gdm3
[23:08] <ordinate000> needless to say it didnt work cause i dont know how to fix it
[23:13] <nacc> fallenour: not many
[23:13] <nacc> fallenour: best case, unplug the disk and do a disk recovery of the file, if possible
[23:14] <strixdio> I know this is "#ubuntu" but hopefully someone has some insight? (I did try in #ubuntustudio, but no one seems to be around) I'm trying to instsall UbuntuStudio to iscsi. I got it to pxe boot into the live environment, install open-iscsi, import the target, install to the target, but then when I try to boot from iscsi it doesn't do anything. Any thoughts?
[23:19] <ordinate000> i might just revert to 16.04
[23:19] <ordinate000> theres no way to reinstall your whole OS without deleting your personal files right
[23:19] <nacc> ordinate000: if you have a /home partition, you can
[23:19] <ryuo> ordinate000: it depends. it's a lot easier to do if your /home is separate.
[23:19] <kk4ewt> so back them up reguardless
[23:20] <nacc> kk4ewt: +1
[23:20] <ryuo> ordinate000: either a separate subvolume or so.
[23:20] <ryuo> Though I don't think the installer lets you configure subvolumes of BTRFS...
[23:21] <nacc> strixdio: when you say boot from iSCSI, you mean in the BIOS/early menu?
[23:21] <ryuo> nacc: iSCSI is a server thing.
[23:21] <nacc> ryuo: ... i know.
[23:21] <ryuo> it sounds like they want to make it network bootable.
[23:22] <nacc> ryuo: please let them respond.
[23:22] <ryuo> nacc: i am.
[23:23] <strixdio> nacc: ipxe boot from iscsi
[23:23] <nacc> strixdio: so your ipxe boot doens't see the iscsi disk?
[23:24] <strixdio> well, ipxe just sits there after doing its thing. Not sure of the terms, sorry. It's been a little bit since I've tried this.
[23:24] <nacc> strixdio: what command are you issuing to ipxe?
[23:26] <strixdio> sanboot iscsi:xx.xx.xx.xx:::1:iqn.2018-05.xxx:iscsi
[23:26] <strixdio> which does work if I install centos7 to the same target.
[23:27] <ordinate000> why does nothing work how its supposed to
[23:27] <nacc> strixdio: have you tried ubuntu server instead of ubuntu studio?
[23:27]  * strixdio shrugs
[23:27] <strixdio> nacc: I haven't.
[23:27] <strixdio> nacc: I specifically need studio :/
[23:28] <nacc> strixdio: i've not ever tried anything other than server or cloud images with iscsi
[23:28]  * strixdio nods
[23:28] <nacc> strixdio: you probably need other config steps in the installer
[23:28] <strixdio> which is fine, I just don't know what those steps are lol
[23:29] <nacc> strixdio: right, so i was suggesting trying server, see if it works; then ubuntu studio can probably be made to work
[23:29] <strixdio> I'm new to iscsi boot. I have windows 10 working, centos7 working, but not ubuntustudio.
[23:29] <strixdio> okay
[23:29] <nacc> strixdio: if server doesn't work, then you probably need to do more work
[23:29] <leonardus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3RByxRGR9T/
[23:30] <nacc> strixdio: http://it-joe.com/linux/iscsi_pxe_boot
[23:30] <nacc> strixdio: probably the steps after "DO NOT REBOOT" :)