[15:31] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: and that setting does that
[15:32] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: But if you have tried and it did not help, ok.
[15:34] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: just don't dismiss it without trying :)
[15:34] <Adriana-F> is that wil opening the cli alsamixer?
[15:37] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: yes. alsamixer might work too, on its own
[15:37] <Lynoure> (but I'm not on kubuntu at the moment, cannot check)
[15:38] <Adriana-F> I tried typing alsamixer in lastnight but that fox didn't work, there was no volume bar for the headphones only the front and pcm and the front muted the sound all together....I'm not on Kubuntu either I just couldn't get a respons on the ubuntu channel
[15:38] <Adriana-F> fix*
[15:40] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: if you are on ubuntu, it works just the same...
[15:41] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: But, yeah, I won't push trying it at you, but I won't try to help you further before that =)
[15:41] <Adriana-F> yea however Ive tried the alsamixer from cli to no avail lastnight :(
[15:41] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: it's not alsamixer alone that helps, one needs to unmute the Headphone Jack Sense.
[15:44] <Adriana-F> I just used that directory you gave me and again it's the same thing I was in lastnight and there isn't anything in there that mentions jacksense, unless your meaning for me to open alsamixers in an editor that is
[15:45] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: run the command   alsamixer
[15:45] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: scroll right until you come to Headphone Jack Sense, then press m to toggle the mute off
[15:46] <JackWinter> hiya, i'm run kubuntu on a samsung x20 laptop.  should run at 1.6 ghz, but power manager shows me 1067 MHz even when i configure it for performance?
[15:47] <Adriana-F> thats what Ive done if it's on it should have a 00 at the bottom and a sound bar right? if so hitting m just makes it say mm and headphone off
[15:52] <hydrogen> so uhh
[15:52] <hydrogen> why exactly does kubuntu still continue to use the horrible thing that is arts
[15:53] <combinio> how to extract *.7z file ??
[15:53] <combinio> it is written that i need some 7zr ?!
[15:53] <rgreening> 7-zip
[15:53] <combinio> ( i'm using ARK )
[15:53] <Adriana-F> yea the fix isn't doing anything, I found a fix on the ubuntu forum the only problem I'm having is that damn make error
[15:54] <combinio> rgreening: couldn't find such package (sudo apt-get install 7-zip) ? :/
[15:54] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, that's cuz kubuntu uses a power saving utility that only increases cpu speeds if required on demand...check the cpufrequtils pkg
[15:55] <rgreening> combino... look in Adept Manager and filteron ZIP
[15:55] <rgreening> there are a few programs with a description that says they deal with .7z or 7-zip files
[15:55] <rgreening> p7zip for example
[15:56] <combinio> rgreening: thanks a lot :))
[15:56] <rgreening> np
[15:56] <combinio> ( all works now :D )
[15:56] <rgreening> :)
[15:57] <Lynoure> Adriana-F: 00 is right, yes.
[15:57] <stdin> hydrogen: because kde uses it
[15:58] <hydrogen> stdin: no, kde can use it.. sometimes.. if it doesn't hang.. or not work.. or cause the system to mess up.. or make ones computer explode
[15:58] <hydrogen> all of those are more likely
[15:58] <Adriana-F> the issue either way can't be solved with that solution, which is why I scowered through posts on ubuntu forum for the fix I did find the only problem is the make error I'm encountering with it
[15:58] <hydrogen> !arts
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <hydrogen> !artsd
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <hydrogen> is there a way to stop it from working?
[15:59] <stdin> hydrogen: by default kde (well, kde apps) uses arts, some apps can be build without arts support but not all
[15:59] <hydrogen> no, all apps can
[15:59] <hydrogen> all apps that have been updated since 3.5 can
[15:59] <hydrogen> at least
[16:00] <hydrogen> because arts has been horrible for at least that long
[16:00] <stdin> some apps can't, I've compiled a couple that needed arts (they were obscure)
[16:00] <stdin> I know arts is horrible
[16:00] <hydrogen> right
[16:00] <hydrogen> I don't care about them
[16:00] <hydrogen> I want to get rid of arts
[16:00] <stdin> that's why it's being scrapped
[16:00] <hydrogen> so it stops breaking my system
[16:00] <hydrogen> and I can continue to be able to start amarok2
[16:00] <hydrogen> so I can work on it
[16:00] <rgreening> Actually, using Gentoo, I had completely disabled Arts and had a working system
[16:00] <hydrogen> artsd consistantly stops me from doing it
[16:01] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, what are you trying to do that arts prevents ?
[16:01] <hydrogen> BluesKaj: run sound under two different users at once
[16:02] <stdin> hydrogen: try disabling the sound system in system settings, maybe it'll default to alsa
[16:02] <Adriana-F> the new alsa Ive downloaded is supposed to fix the issue with my laptop model however I keep getting a make error and I need to know why, my laptop is a Toshiba A200 AH6
[16:02] <BluesKaj> stdin, the default is auto detect :/
[16:03]  * hydrogen uninstalls libarts
[16:03] <hydrogen> lets see what happens
[16:03] <hydrogen> it can't be any worse
[16:03] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:03] <stdin> BluesKaj: no, disable it. not change the default
[16:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:03] <BluesKaj> gotcha stdin
[16:03] <hydrogen> okay
[16:03] <hydrogen> thats even worse
[16:04] <hydrogen> apparently it /can/ get worse
[16:04] <hydrogen> I remove libarts
[16:04] <hydrogen> and kubuntu is nice enough to assume that what I really want is to remove every package in kde
[16:04] <hydrogen> now _thats_ smart!
[16:06] <rgreening> If a package is compiled with arts, removing libarts WILL require removal of KDE apps. Thats how deps work
[16:07] <rgreening> THe apps have to be compiled with "optional" arts or remove arts altogether. not sure if arts can be optional, so likely removal at compile time is required when packages are built
[16:07] <Adriana-F> can anyone else perhaps tell me what this error is coming from so I may be able to get my audio issue resolved today -_- http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1dbb43dc
[16:08] <stdin> nice, I _can_ play sound from 2 users at once with arts :)
[16:08] <JackWinter> believe me blueskaj, the cpu was pegged to the ceiling for a couple of hours ;-)  i'll check out the utils you reccomended.  thanks!
[16:08]  * genii puts on a new pot of coffee
[16:08] <hydrogen> I can sometimes stdin
[16:08] <hydrogen> but then it likes to hang
[16:09] <hydrogen> when I want to play sound with an app not using arts
[16:09] <LinuxApe> Can someone tell me how to have a program run at startup?  It's for dynamic dns.
[16:09] <stdin> JackWinter: seems to be an error in the code, ask in #alsa
[16:09] <firecrotch> LinuxApe:  Make a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[16:10] <stdin> LinuxApe: there are several packages for dynamic dns services
[16:10] <stdin> !info ipcheck
[16:10] <ubotu> ipcheck: Dyndns.org client to register your dynamic IP address. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.233-1 (gutsy), package size 44 kB, installed size 260 kB
[16:10] <genii> !info ez-ipupdate
[16:10] <ubotu> ez-ipupdate: client for most dynamic DNS services. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.11b8-13 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 292 kB
[16:10] <stdin> !info ddclient
[16:10] <ubotu> ddclient: Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.7.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 50 kB, installed size 308 kB
[16:11] <genii> etc
[16:11] <stdin> always good to check for packages before installing random software from the interwebs
[16:12] <LinuxApe> firecrotch: I don't want to have to login to start the app.
[16:12] <LinuxApe> stdin: I have the inadyn.pl script, but I don't see where I can have it start automatically on system reboot.
[16:13] <stdin> LinuxApe: add the command to /etc/rc.local to have it run at the end of the boot sequence (runs as root)
[16:14] <LinuxApe> stdin:  Thanks.  That works for me.
[16:14] <stdin> remember to give the full path to the script if it's no in the default $PATH too
[16:14] <LinuxApe> thanks
[16:14] <fibonacci> Hi all, just wondering what you think of Dolphin ?
[16:14] <Lynoure> fibonacci: I don't like it, but luckily I can keep using konqueror
[16:15] <stdin> works fine...
[16:15] <fibonacci> Lynoure: I agree
[16:15] <Adriana-F> no luck so far, doesn't appear to be anyone on in the alsa channel
[16:15] <stdin> there are about 80 users in there, just wait a while for a response
[16:15] <BluesKaj> <--not a dolphin fan in any area , except for the mammal itself :)
[16:16] <fibonacci> I'm so use to the tree view of Konqueror, that I can't get my head around Dolphin, and it get's to me that the "system menu" opens Dolphin.
[16:17] <LinuxApe> Dolphin's okay, but I don't  like the wasted space on the right with the large icon.
[16:17] <fibonacci> And there was a lot of hype around how easy it was going to be for "broadcom" users with 7.10, but it looks to me like they are using bcm43xx fwcutter, and this only runs at 11bmps ?
[16:17] <stdin> Adriana-F: have a look at the alsa website for other support links http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[16:17] <genii> bah. Need to replace flaky nic
[16:17] <fibonacci> I'm still using ndiswrapper
[16:17] <genii> bbl
[16:18] <BluesKaj> fibonacci, open a folder/properties/edit file type (wrench icon) and move konqueror to the top
[16:18] <stdin> we have a factoid for that...
[16:18] <stdin> !dolphin
[16:18] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:18] <Adriana-F> stdin: Ive already done that and have the driver I need the problem is I keep getting a make error (and having to repeat that fact)
[16:19] <fibonacci> ubotu: Thanks !
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks ! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <stdin> Adriana-F: so you've sent an email to the alsa mailinglist ?
[16:20] <fibonacci> Sweet, done !
[16:20] <fibonacci> But still need to compile ndiswrapper with windows driver ;(
[16:20] <stdin> fibonacci: compile ndiswrapper?
[16:20] <stdin> why not use the packages?
[16:21] <fibonacci> That didn't work in 7.04, never tried it in 7.10. The "restricted driver manager" only uses bcm43xx fwcutter no ?
[16:21] <stdin> yeah, but ndiswrapper is in the repos so no need to compile it
[16:22] <fibonacci> Ok, I've always compiled it myself, as I never got it working otherwise. Anyways I'm really happy with my KDE desktop, the only thing I miss from Windowze is Office performance.
[16:23] <LinuxApe> Another question:  can someone tell me why virtual terminal 8 <ctrl><alt>F8 is the output from booting?  When I add new sessions they start at vt9?
[16:29] <Dragonath> don't you mean ctrl-alt-f6 is booting output?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> LinuxApe, maybe it defaults vt9 cuz you have 7 or more sessions on the go
[16:46] <ThusLex> hello?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> Mello! :)
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Yello ! :>)
[16:50] <inox> Hola
[16:54] <ThusLex> can someone help me? I have a usb key and have downloaded ubuntu but its in a .iso format
[16:55] <ThusLex> how do i put it on my usb key (simply drag and drop) and how do i get my computer to run off my usb key when it starts up
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, if you can change the boot sequence to boot from the USB drive first ...usually in the BIOS ...there are other ways I'm sure but that's the only one i know
[16:58] <ThusLex> to get the bios screen up?..
[16:58] <ThusLex> isnt it pressing one of the F buttons as it loads right?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, no cds ?...burn to cd and run it live
[16:59] <BluesKaj> yes , usually F1 or F2
[17:00] <ThusLex> no cds blues
[17:00] <ThusLex> i bought a usb key cos i thought if i have linux on it, any changes i made in linux will be saved into the usb key
[17:01] <ThusLex> whereas if i did it on a cd, changes wont be kept when i close linux...
[17:01] <BluesKaj> bummer , let's hope you can boot from the USB
[17:02] <Mekzholan> using 7.10 I've got the problem that GIMP doesn't know my printer... (KDE does, of course) Where can I look for a setup hint?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, dunno about changes being saved ...it may work.
[17:03] <JackWinter> where do i tell kde which soundcard to use?
[17:03] <JackWinter> or not use any at all...
[17:05] <supernothing> hi
[17:05] <supernothing> hello?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, in the terminal : cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:06] <supernothing> does anyone know how to configure knetworkmanager to disconnect when the laptop lid is closed
[17:06] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, then to set the default soundcard : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[17:06] <ThusLex> is that right?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, what's right ?
[17:08] <JackWinter> thanks BluesKaj!
[17:08] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, YW :)
[17:10] <ThusLex> BluesKaj, how would i put the .iso onto the usb key?
[17:10] <ThusLex> any speical programs u suggest?
[17:10] <spcKDE> how do i unmout sth?:D
[17:12] <BluesKaj> Thuslex, sorry dunno ...copy and paste ? ...I'm pretty sure the image file will boot
[17:20] <illissius> I got a new hdd (attached w/ usb for now) and copied everything over from the old one -- when trying to boot from it, everything works fine, except kdm won't log me in no matter what I do (screen flashes different shades of black a few times, then comes back to kdm -- as if X were crashing or something), and I have no idea why
[17:20] <illissius> does anyone else?
[17:21] <illissius> I grepped /var/log/Xorg.0.log for EE (errors), and switching to vesa with AIGLX off got rid of all of them, but it still didn't work
[17:23] <yuriy> illissius: how did you copy everything over?
[17:23] <illissius> cp -R --preserve=all
[17:24] <illissius> and it comes up perfectly up to kdm, just logging in once there doesn't work.
[17:24] <yuriy> hmm so shouldn't be permissions then
[17:25] <illissius> my thoughts also
[17:25] <yuriy> illissius: anyway, try moving your .kde directory and see if it works
[17:25] <illissius> I suspect it might be some PAM idiocy, but only because PAM tends to be idiotic and I don't understand it
[17:25] <illissius> yuriy: I think that's beyond the point where it's failing
[17:26] <illissius> e.g. it does the same even if I choose Failsafe as session
[17:26] <yuriy> k, just tends to be something to try
[17:26] <yuriy> oh
[17:28] <illissius> could the fact that it's booting from USB and not the main drive be making any sort of difference?
[17:29] <vbgunz> I don't get the update notification! another account on the system does but I do not. my account was the first original account on here and I use to always get them. I do not get them anymore. how do I get them back? I checked adept and I should be getting notified about updates daily... so why not?
[17:33] <vbgunz> yeah, I am not hiding the icon in the system tray. I just checked apt-get upgrade and have 5 upgrades waiting *but* no icon in the tray notifying me :(
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !adept-notifier
[17:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-notifier - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !adept-updater
[17:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-updater - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !adept-update
[17:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-update - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <Nightwarrior> Adapt manager says i am already running the adept manager but I am not how to fix?
[17:42] <BluesKaj> close the terminal , if open
[17:42] <Nightwarrior> it is closed..
[17:42] <BluesKaj> Nightwarrior, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:43] <Nightwarrior> I will try. I am new with linux :p wanna use it as main system I think since vista crashes hell a lot
[17:43] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | Nightwarrior
[17:43] <ubotu> Nightwarrior: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:45] <warng> moin
[17:49] <Nightwarrior> now adept manager isn't starting at all
[17:52] <venik> Is there a Thunderbird channel?
[17:52] <venik> or help with Thunderbird here?
[17:52] <venik> some messages open up as blank, although under WINDOWS the same messages open up just fine with TB
[17:53] <jthomas> g'day.  Is there a 'sudo apt-get install ____" which automatically sets up the Medibuntu repos on a fresh install of *buntu?
[17:54] <venik> oh well....
[17:57] <ThusLex> meh
[17:57] <ThusLex> i cant put anythin on my usb key now :(:(
[17:59] <BluesKaj> Nightwarrior, relogin
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, ??
[18:00] <ThusLex> it starts loading it on then in about 1 min later it comes up that there is a problem with the path or something
[18:01] <_Shade_> how can i make an iso image from the cd?
[18:03] <stdin> _Shade_: open k3b, Tools > Copy CD
[18:05] <_Shade_> stdin: oh that was easy :). Ok where does k3b store the images by default?
[18:06] <stdin> _Shade_: where ever you told it to
[18:06] <Dr_willis> or use 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=whatevercopy.iso'
[18:06] <orlandoj> someone can help to configure the Samba server on Kubuntu ?
[18:06] <Dr_willis> orlandoj,  got a more specific question about it? :)
[18:06] <Dr_willis> There is a kde front end to configureing it. But im not sure if its installed by default
[18:07] <stdin> _Shade_: try /tmp/kde-$USER/ if you didn't tell it where
[18:07] <_Shade_> ok thanks
[18:07] <_Shade_> one more question
[18:08] <_Shade_> can i enable the address bar (path) in dolphin as it is in konqueror?
[18:09] <stdin> _Shade_: click the little edit button by the address (white horizontal bar with a black vertical bar in it), or press Ctrl+L
[18:09] <orlandoj> I need an model of smb.conf to do my Samba run like PDC on Kubuntu
[18:09] <Dr_willis> orlandoj,  you may want to check out that 'using samba' book thats in the samba-doc package
[18:09] <_Shade_> it was very convenient to quickly switch between several locations, but now there's dolphin.... should be called dolphinus or such since it's nearly the same as nautilus :)
[18:10] <Dr_willis> _Shade_,  wait for the actual dolphin thats in kde4
[18:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:10] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[18:10] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[18:11] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: i did a recent build few hours ago but it's all the same - i mean gnooooooooooomish :)
[18:11] <Dr_willis> The kde4 live cd i tested the other day seemed a lot different with dolphin. But it may of been suse specific changes..
[18:12] <_Shade_> i have no idea then... well there's a lot to improve anyways
[18:12] <_Shade_> it's too early for rc by the way
[18:13] <stdin> complaints to #kde4-devel (if you're brave enough)
[18:15] <_Shade_> stdin: well i reported few things already :)
[18:16] <stdin> yeah, go in there and say "it's too early for rc", see what happens ;)
[18:16] <SSJ_GZ> Hint: WW3 ::)
[18:17] <Dr_willis> Tell them 'You need to make kde more like gnome' :P
[18:17] <_Shade_> stdin: well they will certainly cancel the release candidate and rename it to beta one :)
[18:18] <Dr_willis> RCBeta1
[18:18] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: i don't need it, i don't like gnome :P
[18:18] <stdin> sure, that or Sho_ will feel the need to write a novel about how you're wrong and KDE is right (which they always are)
[18:19] <stdin> (and Sho_ does write quite elequent responses to these things)
[18:19] <_Shade_> like...?
[18:20] <ThusLex> meh :(
[18:20] <ThusLex> it keeps coming up theres an error when i put ubuntu on my usb key :(
[18:22] <Dr_willis> I recall some tweaks were needed to get ubuntu booting off a usb device . But not sure if gutsy fixed anything of those or not.
[18:22] <Dr_willis> I havent tried it. :)
[18:22] <stdin> _Shade_: like http://stdin.pastebin.com/d7a6d7b50
[18:23] <ThusLex> well so far i cant even get ubuntu onto my usb let alone get it to boot
[18:25] <_Shade_> stdin: well looks promising :)
[18:26] <_Shade_> maybe it's worth to wait a bit? :)
[18:27] <stdin> don't expect it to be what most people think of "ready" until 4.1
[18:27] <hdevalence> how do I set the amount of space reserved for root on an ext3 filesystem?
[18:28] <hdevalence> s/set/change/
[18:28] <_Shade_> so will be 4.0 a whole big beta for real?
[18:28] <stdin> hdevalence: see "man tune2fs" and the -m option
[18:29] <ramu> are hear any kubuntu users?
[18:29] <ramu> thet cant run mp3
[18:29] <ramu> plz hlp
[18:29] <stdin> _Shade_: it'll mean that it's ready for general use, and doesn't crash quite so much
[18:29] <stdin> !mp3 | ramu
[18:29] <Dr_willis> hdevalence,  you can use the tune2fs command to set the 'reserved' space
[18:29] <ubotu> ramu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:29] <ramu> thnz
[18:29] <ramu> !mp3
[18:29] <stdin> ramu: see the links ubotu posted
[18:30] <Dr_willis> ramu,  for a start install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package
[18:30] <stdin> (if you're on gutsy)
[18:30] <hdevalence> by the way, is ext3 the /exact/ same filesystem as ext2, but with a journal?
[18:30] <ramu> sorry for asking , whats gutsy :/
[18:30] <Dr_willis> hdevalence,  basicially.
[18:31] <hdevalence> gutsy = codname for kubuntu 7.10\
[18:31] <stdin> ramu: Kubuntu version 7.10
[18:31] <Dr_willis> hdevalence,  a ext2 only system can mount a ext3 filesystem as ext2
[18:31] <_Shade_> stdin: ah i see... well let's hope they will release 4.1 soon :) or maybe even 4.2, 4.3 :)
[18:31] <ramu> ya kubuntu 7.10
[18:33] <stdin> ramu: then open adept and install the package
[18:33] <stdin> 'kubuntu-restricted-extras'
[18:33] <ramu> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:33] <hdevalence> so running tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdb1 would set 1% reserved space?
[18:34] <stdin> ramu: in adept go to Adept -> Manage Repositories  and make sure all the boxes are checked, then install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' (not ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[18:35] <Dr_willis> hdevalence,  somthing like that.
[18:35] <Dr_willis> hdevalence,  i always do somthing like that on my new  hds  i dont suggest going to 0% :)
[18:36] <hdevalence> Dr_willis: in this case it's a 500gb sata external, and 25gb seemed a bit excessive
[18:36] <Dr_willis> Yep.
[18:38] <jonrysh> How can I find out which package contains a particular file.  In particular /usr/bin/gnome-font-properties ?
[18:38] <davide> italiano?
[18:38] <Tm_T> !it | davide
[18:38] <ubotu> davide: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:39] <ramu> there are no kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:39] <ramu> :(
[18:40] <davide> volevo sapere come potevo utilizzare su kubunto e dove posso trovare i file che si trovano sulla partizione windows
[18:40] <stdin> ramu: what does the command "lsb_release -sc" show ?
[18:41] <stdin> !it | davide
[18:41] <ubotu> davide: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:41] <ramu> gutsy
[18:41] <ramu> in konsole
[18:42] <vbgunz> hmm... all other accounts have adept_notifier running except for mine... how do I get mines running?
[18:42] <hdevalence> since you enables the other repos , maybe you need to run apt-get update again?
[18:42] <hdevalence> err put a sudo in front of that
[18:42] <ramu> and amarok ses it's instaling, plz restart amarok
[18:43] <ramu> i restart and it asks again instal plugins o rnot?
[18:43] <ramu> instal, and  after restart it's again
[18:43] <ramu> :(
[18:43] <stdin> ramu: if you've enabled the sources, then the package kubuntu-restricted-extras does exist. that will install mp3 support and a number of other things
[18:44] <stdin> vbgunz: press alt+f2 and type in "adept_notifier"
[18:45] <ramu> so how to enable?
[18:45] <ramu> put on x on other tuweblink lines?
[18:45] <stdin> ramu: in adept go to Adept -> Manage Repositories  and make sure all the boxes are checked
[18:47] <naelr> does anyone know if is there an ubuntu kernel irc channel?
[18:48] <naelr> I am using text irc remotely from work and I don't know how to do a channel search
[18:48] <stdin> naelr: #ubuntu-kernel
[18:48] <stdin> we have simple names :)
[18:48] <naelr> stdin: thanks!
[18:48] <naelr> hehe
[18:49] <ramu> now its instaling
[18:49] <ramu> thx
[18:49] <ramu> an video will goto?
[18:49] <ramu> ar need ather plugins?
[18:50] <stdin> it should install most codecs
[18:50] <ramu> mp runs :)
[18:50] <ramu> mp3*
[18:51] <ramu> thnx
[18:51] <ramu> :)
[18:51] <vbgunz> stdin: ok. my problem is, the system has updates. they never show on my account but on others without a problem. when I ran Alt+F2 adept_notifier, I got the tray alert for updates... why is this not starting up with the system? I would never say no to such a config so how do i get back without having to Alt+F2 to do it?
[18:51] <vbgunz> stdin: forget it
[18:52] <ramu> ant there are any ways to run autocad or mathkadd?
[18:52] <stdin> vbgunz: should autostart from now on
[18:52] <vbgunz> stdin: i got a dialog asking if I wanted to have it automatically started up. I chose yes and not to ask again
[18:52] <vbgunz> good. I feel good. thanks :)
[18:53] <ramu> uh
[18:53] <ramu> i have one more question
[18:53] <ramu> when i used windovs and ubuntu 7.4
[18:54] <ramu> sometimes boot menu didnt start
[18:54] <ramu> if it hapens
[18:55] <ramu> there is a way to renew it?
[18:57] <mike-kubuntu> my internet keeps dyeing guys
[18:57] <Dr_willis> ramu,  you mean the grubmenu  failed to show up some times?
[18:58] <mike-kubuntu> i know its not the provider because only the kubuntu computer stops getting a connection
[18:59] <ramu> um.... menu the lets to chose ubuntu....., ubuntu (....),other system,Windows xp
[18:59] <ramu> this menu
[18:59] <alfredo> here all are anglo?
[18:59] <ramu> like when inserting non bootble flash
[19:00] <ramu> reanstal ubuntu and it works fo some time
[19:01] <ramu> there are other wais to make that menu?
[19:12] <ramu> how to install firefox? downloaded and extracted
[19:13] <ramu> there are bunch of files
[19:13] <ramu> and what to do? :D
[19:14] <ThusLex> u can get firefox for ubuntu?
[19:15] <vbgunz> when you press Ctrl+Alt+F6 through F12, what is that called? those aren't desktops or workspaces. what are they?
[19:16] <genii> consoles
[19:16] <vbgunz> genii: really?
[19:16] <genii> vbgunz: Yes
[19:16] <vbgunz> F6 through 12 don't look like consoles :)
[19:17] <vbgunz> cool, I guess thats better than what I had in mind
[19:17] <genii> They are all consoles
[19:17] <runlevelten> !k3b
[19:17] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[19:17] <vbgunz> thanks :)
[19:17] <runlevelten> anyone know what's with the inability to copy cds in k3b?
[19:17] <runlevelten>  ie read error 16, failed to get exclusive use of the drive allegedly
[19:18] <runlevelten> just a teeny tiny bit of a shame to spend your only day off in ages fixing such a problem tbh.
[19:19] <genii> runlevelten: Is it prompting you to swap cds from original to blank etc etc?
[19:20] <federico_> hello
[19:20] <runlevelten> Nah, I'm just trying to write it to a clone iso
[19:20] <vbgunz> when you start up a kubuntu system and you're looking at the login username/password. what is that called? is it the KDM login manager?
[19:21] <federico_> I don't know the kubuntu system
[19:21] <SSJ_GZ> vbgunz: Yes :)
[19:21] <runlevelten> genii: It's getting the device, and I can write the other kind of iso
[19:21] <ardchoille> federico_: What is your question?
[19:21] <federico_> hello jean peter
[19:21] <vbgunz> SSJ_GZ: thanks :)
[19:21] <SSJ_GZ> vbgunz: np :)
[19:21] <Jay-Pee> hello ^
[19:21] <runlevelten> well, it knows the device, it's not "getting" it really, heh
[19:22] <genii> vbgunz: Yes, login screen is KDE Display Manager (KDM)
[19:22] <federico_> i don' speak english
[19:22] <linenoise> I'm using konsole and I want to know what the hotkey is to go to a particular tab.  Under firefox it's alt+tabNumber, so if I wanted the second tab, I'd hit alt-2 and it would get focus.  Does this work in konsole?  google didn't help :(
[19:22] <vbgunz> genii: got it, thanks!
[19:22] <ardchoille> federico_: Which language?
[19:22] <federico_> i have a very dificult to the speak english
[19:22] <federico_> i'm italian
[19:23] <ardchoille> !it | federico_
[19:23] <ubotu> federico_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:23] <genii> runlevelten: You mean a virtual drive to burn the iso to?
[19:24] <blendtux> !nl | blendtux
[19:24] <federico_> sono nel canale italiano?
[19:24] <runlevelten> genii: i'm using "only create image"
[19:25] <federico_> wher are you from runlevelten
[19:25] <linenoise> uhm... lame... it looks like there is no way to do what I want in konsole... why even have tabs if they aren't keyboard accessible?  That just seems dumb.
[19:25] <runlevelten> !it
[19:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:25] <federico_> i live in ferrara
[19:25] <orlandoj> i'm trying to configure the samba server on KUbuntu like PDC. When i test at the server (smbclient -L localhost -U orlandoj), it's ok. But when i try to inser the Windows client, occours some erros. I'll put the log messages hehe:
[19:25] <linenoise> the man page has nothing, google has nothing and help:/konsole pretty much confirms that konsole is keyboard UN-friendly
[19:26] <orlandoj> nmbd/nmbd_incomingrequests.c:process_name_refresh_request(173)
[19:26] <orlandoj>   Error - should be sent to WINS server
[19:26] <orlandoj> [2007/11/27 17:22:34, 0] nmbd/nmbd_incomingrequests.c:process_name_refresh_request(172)
[19:26] <orlandoj>   process_name_refresh_request: unicast name registration request received for name MC2<00> from IP <IP_ADDRESS> on subnet UNICAST_SUBNET.
[19:26] <orlandoj> [2007/11/27 17:22:34, 0] nmbd/nmbd_incomingrequests.c:process_name_refresh_request(173)
[19:26] <runlevelten> linenoise: how is it keyboard unfriendly?!
[19:26] <linenoise> get out of here mallize
[19:26] <linenoise> mallize: ;)
[19:26] <runlevelten> :)
[19:26] <linenoise> runlevelten: you can't switch to a specific tab using the keyboard.
[19:26] <linenoise> runlevelten: you can cycle, but you can't specify.
[19:26] <genii> hmm
[19:27] <mallize> wah
[19:27] <mallize> you need to come to this meeting linenoise
[19:27] <linenoise> mallize: F-THAT
[19:27] <linenoise> ;)
[19:28] <runlevelten> linenoise: open "configure shortcuts"
[19:28] <linenoise> mallize: it's probably about all the code I broke before I left hahaha
[19:28] <mallize> :)
[19:28] <linenoise> runlevelten: I tried that.  There's a way to cycle but not a way to select a specific one... unless I'm just not seeing it here....
[19:29] <X2B> ok, I am coming here from #kde with a problem concerning some preassigned keys, e.g. XF86AudioMute. I want to assign them to something else but I can't, because they are already assigned. What can I do??
[19:29] <linenoise> runlevelten: I see it!!!
[19:29] <runlevelten> you do only get 10 slots mind you :)
[19:29] <linenoise> runlevelten: thanks! :)
[19:29] <runlevelten> np
[19:29] <linenoise> man they kinda bury it there... I guess I just expect everything to work like firefox
[19:30] <runlevelten> ew, really?
[19:30] <linenoise> slow and crashy ;)
[19:30] <ThusLex> erm
[19:30] <runlevelten> heheh yeah -takes me ages to find anything in ff tbh \o/
[19:30] <linenoise> that's not true... if this were firefox, I'd need a plugin for each font color, and those plugins would somehow conflict causing my browser to eat 1GB of memory per page.
[19:30] <ThusLex> if i download ubuntu the desktop version, is it possible to download the server side of it and add it on later?
[19:30] <ThusLex> LAMP isnt it?
[19:31] <linenoise> ThusLex: the different versions don't limit which packages you can install if that's what you're asking.
[19:31] <runlevelten> yes it is possible, you can install the server packages through apt or synaptic
[19:31] <runlevelten> or aptitude, or adept, etc
[19:31] <ThusLex> well are there any help sites or anything on the itnernet to tell u how to install them?
[19:31] <ThusLex> cos im a bit of a linux noob (hint the fact im downloading ubuntu) so i can learn about it
[19:32] <ScorpKing> !LAMP
[19:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:32] <ThusLex> thansk ubutou
[19:32] <ThusLex> ubotu
[19:33] <runlevelten> OK, I'm thinking tentatively that it looks like a permissions issue.
[19:33] <ThusLex> meh
[19:33] <ThusLex> would it be easier to just download the server edition?
[19:33] <linenoise> mallize: Judy's asking where you're at?  wtf?  Why are you guys meeting in here?
[19:34] <mallize> tell her.. we are in a dar meeting
[19:34] <mallize> that CHUCK asked us to go to
[19:37] <jhutchins_lt> ThusLex: The main difference between the desktop and the server versions is the package selection.  You can install all of the desktop packages on the server base, and the server packages on the desktop.  Most admins don't want all the desktop stuff cluttering up a server, so there's a separate installer for them.
[19:39] <runlevelten> OK, so it works fine with every setting the same except "Clone image", I can create a (not good enough) iso
[19:40] <runlevelten> the devices are owned by cdrom, but I suppose k3b uses a different app for the clone copyu
[19:40] <runlevelten> -u
[19:44] <enrico__> ciao a tutti
[19:44] <enrico__> posso chiedequi per aiuti su kubintu
[19:44] <enrico__> kubuntu
[19:45] <enrico__> ma non c'e nessuno)
[19:45] <trappist> !it
[19:45] <enrico__> ?
[19:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:46] <enrico__> ok tnx
[19:46] <trappist> np
[19:50] <vbgunz> what is the name of the screen you see *after* logging in? the one that shows the progress if the system loading up?
[19:50] <trappist> the kdm splash screen, if you use kdm
[19:50] <vbgunz> trappist: thanks!
[19:51] <trappist> substitute gdm if appropriate
[19:52] <vbgunz> KDM I believe
[19:52] <vbgunz> just promised to take a day and report on the bugs that have been bothering me for a very long time
[19:53] <jhutchins_lt> WIthout bugreports nothing gets done about them.
[19:54] <jhutchins_lt> If they're already reported, remember to vote for 'em.
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> or against them as it is...
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[19:54] <nosrednaekim> no-one wants bugs in the office
[20:03] <vbgunz> when you insert a cd, what could cause 2 storage media daemon dialogs to open on you? 1 is apparently root and the other belonging to the user?
[20:07] <runlevelten> Yay, time spent wrangling ubuntu into working instead of relaxing AGAIN.
[20:08]  * runlevelten goes and plays with opensuse, which for all its problems, just works.
[20:08] <andreas_> Why doesent knetworkmanager find my wireless networks? When i do iwconfig i find my card eth1. How do i reset knetworkanager to it's original settings? (think my brother has fucked it up real hard.)
[20:09] <morphinex> hey folks, when I upgraded to gutsy my networking got hosed
[20:10] <morphinex> I no longer have eth0, ath0, wlan0, etc
[20:10] <morphinex> How might I fix that?
[20:10] <andreas_> morphinex: what card do you have?
[20:11] <morphinex> umm, I don't remember, it always just worked
[20:11] <morphinex> in edgy and feisty it Just Worked
[20:12] <andreas_> morphinex: laptop computer?
[20:12] <morphinex> desktop
[20:12] <morphinex> Atheros AR2413
[20:13] <andreas_> morphinex: i thingk madwifi got drivers for those.
[20:14] <trappist> yeah madwifi has atheros covered
[20:14] <hdevalence> when i try to poen media:/ in konqueror, it gives me an error the kde mediamanager is not running
[20:15] <andreas_> morphinex: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros
[20:15] <hdevalence> how do i start this?
[20:15] <andreas_> hdevalence: Use dolphin
[20:15] <andreas_> Why doesent knetworkmanager find my wireless networks? When i do iwconfig i find my card eth1. How do i reset knetworkanager to it's original settings? (think my brother has fucked it up real hard.)
[20:16] <stdin> andreas_: watch the language
[20:16] <ahmad> sound is very low although mixer 100%
[20:16] <hdevalence> andreas_: it has the smae problem in dolphin.
[20:16] <jpatrick> hdevalence: it's something to do with kryptomedia not yet included, I am working on this right now
[20:16] <hdevalence> it won't mount my cdrom
[20:16] <morphinex> andreas_: it always worked before without madwifi
[20:16] <miguel_> Hi all!
[20:17] <trappist> hdevalence: do you have the kdebase-kio-plugins package installed?
[20:18] <hdevalence> its a problem with "kio_media_moun" (cut off)
[20:18] <andreas_> morphinex: yeah, but changes happes, i have atheros my self, and madwifi works, standard  gusty dont.
[20:18] <hdevalence> trappist: let me check , i think, so
[20:18] <morphinex> andreas_: ok, I'll try it, thanks for the help
[20:18] <ahmad> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[20:19] <BanisterKelly> !dvd
[20:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:19] <miguel_> i need somebody!! xD
[20:19] <miguel_> :P
[20:19] <trappist> ahmad: check for 'pcm', 'master' and 'volume' in your mixer
[20:19] <hdevalence> yeah, it's installed.
[20:20] <andreas_> morphinex: np. i think madwifi is in the resticted kubuntu rep.
[20:20] <ahmad> mixer window shows pcm only
[20:20] <jpatrick> hdevalence: are you on hardy?
[20:20] <trappist> hdevalence: go into your konqueror settings, to previews & meta-data.  under select protocols, put a check i nmedia under local protocols
[20:20] <hdevalence> nope
[20:21] <ahmad> trappist: mixer window shows pcm only
[20:21] <trappist> ahmad: what mixer are you using?
[20:21] <trappist> and, what sound card do you have?
[20:21] <hdevalence> trappist
[20:22] <hdevalence> it still doesn't work
[20:22] <trappist> hdevalence: gutsy or feisty?
[20:22] <andreas_> morphinex: install linux-restricted-extras ;d
[20:22] <hdevalence> trappist: gutsy
[20:23] <ahmad> trappist: kmix realtek sound card
[20:23] <trappist> hdevalence: hrm, not sure - it works here
[20:23] <trappist> ahmad: try alsamixer
[20:24] <hdevalence> i think it might have something to do with the fact that i accidentally ran 'rm -rf' in my home directory; but i killed it pretty quick, and it didn't delete .kde
[20:24] <andreas_> Why doesent knetworkmanager find my wireless networks? When i do iwconfig i find my card eth1. How do i reset knetworkanager to it's original settings? (think my brother has fucked it up real hard.)
[20:24] <ahmad> trappist: alsamixer shows master 00 that can not be modified
[20:25] <ahmad> trappist: pcm 100%
[20:25] <trappist> ahmad: does master have MM at the bottom?
[20:26] <trappist> hdevalence: there's a good chance it started on .kde
[20:26] <trappist> and deleted some of it
[20:26] <vbgunz> damn... I left a comment on something in launchpad and lost it... :(
[20:26] <ahmad> trappist: master have 00 at the bottom
[20:27] <hdevalence> trappist: is there a way that I could get a hold of a default .kde, and then restore any missing files
[20:29] <trappist> hdevalence: easiest solution might be to create a new user
[20:29] <fredrik> Annyone got a Dlink BT-122 Bluetooth adapter to work?
[20:29] <ahmad> trappist: help please
[20:30] <trappist> ahmad: it's probably specific to your sound card, and I don't have one like that.  I'm out of ideas.
[20:30] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else?
[20:31] <hdevalence> trappist: so then I could create a tar.bz2 of .kde, but is there an extract option that will not overwrite?
[20:31] <trappist> hdevalence: probably - man tar :)
[20:32] <voicu> hi, i just upgraded from feisty to gutsy and i have some problems with apt
[20:32] <voicu> apparently 14 packages didn't install well
[20:32] <trappist> joebob777as7: depends on the problem.  for example if her hard drive(s) used to be ide, and now it's a sata system, that's one problem.  if it's video drivers... you get the idea.
[20:32] <hdevalence> trappist: all I have to do is use the -k option - thanks for your help
[20:33] <voicu> now i get errors when trying to install any package and aptitude can't work it out
[20:33] <joebob777as7> trappist, hard drive is still sata but graphics card used to be agp now is pci-e...
[20:33] <voicu> i tried uninstalling the packages but it won't let me
[20:34] <trappist> jackster: first step, can you define 'peculiarly' so we know what we're looking for?
[20:34] <voicu> why do i get this "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi: failed to write cache" from dpkg?
[20:34] <voicu> i get that when dpkg tries to install ttf-opensymbol
[20:35] <fredrik> Annyone got a Dlink BT-122 Bluetooth adapter to work?
[20:36] <bob1> hi guys
[20:39] <trappist> voicu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:40] <voicu> trappist: thanks... weird bug :D
[20:40] <trappist> yep
[20:40] <funkja> what is the kde4 dev channel?
[20:41] <trappist> voicu: when I typed ttf-opensymbol into google, the first thing returned by googlesuggest was ttf-opensymbol failed to write cache
[20:41] <kamui> crazy question
[20:41] <kamui> can you boot a cd image using syslinux?
[20:41] <stdin> funkja: #kde-devel
[20:41] <stdin> funkja: * #kde4-devel
[20:42] <funkja> thanks
[20:43] <hydrogen> anyone know of a c++ formatter smarter than bcpp?
[20:44] <tekteen> hydrogen: yes. A HUMAN
[20:44] <tekteen> :-)
[20:44] <hydrogen> tekteen: that was not that helpful
[20:44] <hydrogen> thanks though
[20:44] <tekteen> sorry
[20:44] <ScorpKing> lol. try #c++
[20:45] <voicu> if i 'accidentaly' deleted some files that are installed by apt can i make it check and put back everything? :D
[20:46] <LjL> voicu, do you know which files?
[20:46] <voicu> kinda
[20:46] <LjL> define kinda
[20:46] <vbgunz> I am a bit burnt with launchpad... I made a comment on something and I lose it forever... I cannot find where I made the comment or anything. how am I supposed to keep track of it :(
[20:46] <voicu> well i deleted the fonts
[20:46] <trappist> voicu: if you know what packages, apt-get install --reinstall
[20:46] <voicu> but if i uninstall the fonts everything goes away
[20:46] <voicu> aha
[20:46] <voicu> thanks again
[20:46] <trappist> np
[20:49] <voicu> oh, and another thing... after upgrading X only starts in 1024x768 but the xorg.conf tells it to go in 1600x1200. could kde or something else interfere?
[20:50] <peixotoadm> join #unix
[20:51] <tekteen> voicu: in system settings
[20:51] <tekteen> voicu: under monitor and display
[20:54] <tekteen> voicu: r u there?
[20:55] <voicu> yeah
[20:55] <voicu> dammit, can't see anything
[20:55] <tekteen> ok
[20:56] <voicu> my fonts are messed up
[20:56] <voicu> brb
[21:00] <torsten_> hallo leute wo kann ich firefox downloaden
[21:00] <tekteen> torsten_: open a konsole and type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:01] <torsten_> ok teste ich
[21:01] <tekteen> !de | torsten_
[21:01] <ubotu> torsten_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:01] <torsten_> hatte erst suse drauf , muss mich erst einarbeiten
[21:02] <tekteen> anyone here speak [his language here]
[21:02] <voicu> hmm, and can i tell kde not to screw with X's settings?
[21:03] <tekteen> voicu: in the system settings u can set it yourself
[21:03] <voicu> the resolution isn't a big problem but it also changes the refresh rate
[21:03] <tekteen> I have no idea why
[21:04] <CochiseIRL> hello, im in gnome ubuntu, is there any other way to install kde. I tried kubuntu-desktop but it installs loads of apps as well?
[21:04] <hydrogen> anyone familiar with astyle?
[21:04] <tekteen> CochiseIRL: sudo apt-get install kde
[21:06] <tekteen> CochiseIRL: does that work?
[21:06] <torsten_> es installiert klasse danke
[21:06] <tekteen> !de | torsten_
[21:06] <ubotu> torsten_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:06] <Tm_T> CochiseIRL: I'd say install kdebase if you don't like to have whole "kde apps" stack
[21:06] <CochiseIRL> tekteen, that installs the games and other stuff as well same as the kubuntu-desktop metapackage. looking forward to kde4 the rc1 was great so i want to switch to kde3 now to get a feel for it.
[21:07] <myndbreaker> kubuntu-desktop is the whole package to switch to kubuntu---
[21:07] <tekteen> torsten_: what language do you speak
[21:07] <torsten_> deutsch
[21:07] <CochiseIRL> Tm_T, just what im looking for, will i have to create a session file or will it auto create?
[21:08] <tekteen> torsten_: go to #kubuntu-de
[21:08] <Tm_T> CochiseIRL: if only KDE3 then no
[21:08] <torsten_> ok danke
[21:25] <BenPA> I know this is crazy but can someone help me with dialup settings ... I need to know if I need to put an entry into my interfaces for my laptop to reconize the modem
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> !dialup
[21:26] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[21:27] <osman47> !de
[21:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:27] <andreas_> Why cant i connect to my wlan?  wokred just fine yesterday!
[21:27] <BenPA> how do I disable KNetworkManager?
[21:27] <blizzzek> bye
[21:28] <tekteen> BenPA: Laptops many times have "Soft modems" and need restricted drivers
[21:28] <BenPA> ugh
[21:28] <tekteen> BenPA: KNetworkManager is easy
[21:28] <BenPA> sounds like a progrject
[21:28] <tekteen> BenPA: right click on the icon and click quit
[21:28] <BenPA> I do have knetworkmanager
[21:29] <tekteen> then tell it NOT to start up again
[21:29] <BenPA> ok thanks
[21:29] <tekteen> as for the restricted drivers
[21:29] <BenPA> yes
[21:29] <tekteen> if u have "gutsy 7.10" it is easy
[21:29] <BenPA> yes, I do
[21:29] <tekteen> cool
[21:30] <tekteen> open up the system settings program
[21:30] <tekteen> go to the "advanced" tab
[21:30] <BenPA> ok
[21:30] <torsten_> hallo, wie werden installationsquellen eingebunden
[21:30] <tekteen> and click on the "restricted drivers" button
[21:30] <nosrednaekim> !de
[21:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:31] <tekteen> BenPA: it should then install it for u. :-)
[21:31] <torsten_> hallo wie werden installationsquellen eingebunden
[21:32] <Fleck> what do i need for php mail function to work on my kubuntu?
[21:32] <Fleck> sendmail package
[21:32] <Fleck> ?
[21:32] <tekteen> BenPA: one dialup program I know of (don't use) is kppp. It comes with kubuntu
[21:32] <BenPA> what should I use
[21:32] <ndrea> Hello everybody
[21:32] <BenPA> it's installing the drivers now
[21:33] <tekteen> BenPA: cool
[21:33] <tekteen> hi ndrea
[21:33] <ndrea> I have a question... Everytime I update with adept manager I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46041/
[21:33] <BenPA> which dialup program should I use?
[21:33] <ndrea> do some of you have the same problem?
[21:33] <BenPA> ppp-gnome?
[21:33] <tekteen> BenPA: no
[21:34] <tekteen> BenPA: kppp
[21:34] <tekteen> comes with kubuntu
[21:34] <tekteen> uses kde libraries
[21:34] <BenPA> I thought you said not to use it
[21:34] <tekteen> look again
[21:35] <tekteen> kppp is the kde one
[21:35] <BenPA> oh ok
[21:35] <BenPA> thanks
[21:35] <tekteen> np
[21:35] <tekteen> hope it works. :-)
[21:35] <BenPA> it keeps saying modem is busy I guess I should reboot
[21:36] <tekteen> yep
[21:36] <BenPA> ty so much
[21:36]  * tekteen has to go or his mom will kill him! :-)
[21:38] <HS^> will it take a long time to integrate kde4 in kubuntu after it is released?
[21:38] <Tm_T> who knows
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> HS^: possibly, it certainly is not going into hardy by default.
[21:39] <HS^> i dont know all the ubuntu code names, hardy is stable?
[21:39] <sdlnxgk> anyone having issues with firefox update???
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Usually people stay with the current stream of KDE until at least the third release, so kde 4.3.x
[21:39] <sdlnxgk> firefox just updated and now it will not stay open
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> Or maybe kde 4.1.3
[21:40] <continentaltest> is anyone here knowledgeable RE virtualbox
[21:40] <jhutchins_lt> sdlnxgk: What errors does it show in the console when you start it there?
[21:40] <sdlnxgk> let me try that really fast
[21:41] <Pollywog> sdlnxgk: You might try installing Firefox from one of the tarballs on their website
[21:41] <Pollywog> version 2 something
[21:41] <sn00zer> on my open office whenever i use bullets or numbering the box pops up with the options specific to those things but somehow it switched to fullscreen, how do i get these toolbars back to a manageable size?
[21:41] <jhutchins_lt> Pollywog: I wouldn't do that.
[21:41] <sdlnxgk> I have version 2 something now firefox just updated and now it will not connect or stay open
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Pollywog: Mozilla's installers don't integrate into the apt system and they make a mess of the drive.
[21:42] <Pollywog> jhutchins: I put mine in /usr/local/
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Pollywog: None of your pluggins or anything are going to integrate with the rest of the system though.
[21:42] <sdlnxgk> jhutchins, here is my error message when running it from cli Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:42] <Pollywog> you just untar it and then put it in /usr/local/
[21:43] <Pollywog> you might be right about the integration
[21:43] <sdlnxgk> damn auto upgrades
[21:43] <Pollywog> if it becomes a problem I will install the deb again but by then the problem I had should be fixed
[21:45] <hdevalence> aggg opendns is screwing up konqueror
[21:46] <hdevalence> i made strigi the default search
[21:46] <hdevalence> but it goes to opendns instead
[21:47] <Pollywog> jhutchins: Oh wait, it wasn't Firefox I upgraded, it was Thunderbird
[21:48] <Pollywog> I am not having problems with Firefox so I should put a hold on it so it does not upgrade to the version giving sdlnxgk problems
[21:49] <Pollywog> sdlnxgk: Feisty or Gutsy?
[21:49] <jthomas> hdevalence: what are you using to search?  if you are at the address bar, you need to preface the term with "stringi:/" or it will try DNS resplution, which is where OpenDNS comes in.
[21:49] <Pollywog> oh yes I see a Firefox updated package
[21:49] <sdlnxgk> Pollywog, Feisty haven't made the jump to Gutsy yet
[21:49] <jthomas> hdevalence: rather, 'strigi:/'
[21:49]  * Pollywog puts Firefox on HOLD
[21:50] <Pollywog> oh, Gutsy here
[21:51] <jthomas> hdevalence: or it may be 'strigi://'
[21:51] <sdlnxgk> Might do the Gutsy fresh install once I back everything up this weekend
[21:51] <sdlnxgk> ok gotta go check the mail and put the truck in the garage and get some sleep before shift tonight will check back and see after a reboot if firefox is ok
[21:51]  * tekteen is waiting for Hardy :-)
[21:52] <Pollywog> The only thing that broke really bad when I upgraded to Gutsy was wifi
[21:52] <Pollywog> Ralink rt2500 wifi card
[21:52] <tekteen> Pollywog: have u opened the restricted drivers manager
[21:52] <Pollywog> tekteen: no
[21:53] <Pollywog> it is broken?
[21:53] <tekteen> Pollywog: open the "system settings" program
[21:53] <tekteen> then go to the "advanced" tab
[21:53] <tekteen> then to the restricted drivers manager
[21:54] <continentaltest> are there any VirtualBox experts available?
[21:55] <tekteen> continentaltest: I have used it
[21:55] <Pollywog> I do not see the restricted drivers manager
[21:55] <stdin> continentaltest: there are in #vbox
[21:55]  * tekteen uses Virtualbox Sometimes but likes QEMU the best
[21:56] <tekteen> Pollywog: gutsy, right?
[21:56] <Pollywog> tekteen: yes
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> continentaltest: whats the problem?
[21:56] <tekteen> Pollywog: one sec
[21:57] <Pollywog> oh yes I see Firefox 2 would upgrade if I did not put a hold on it
[21:57] <Pollywog> is Firefox broken in Gutsy?
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: no
[21:57] <tekteen> Pollywog: click alt+F2
[21:57] <tekteen> type "systemsettings"
[21:58] <tekteen> then at the top click the advanced tab
[21:58] <Pollywog> I have that I just don't have the restricted drivers manager
[21:58] <Pollywog> I have the other managers
[21:58] <tekteen> ok
[21:58] <tekteen> u need a fresh install
[21:59] <tekteen> I NEVER upgrade
[21:59] <Tm_T> erm?
[21:59] <tekteen> things seem to be breaking alot
[21:59] <ardchoille> Pollywog: If you're willing to circumvent the package manager, you're eventually going to have some kind of problem, IMHO.
[21:59] <Tm_T> !worksforme | tekteen
[21:59] <ubotu> tekteen: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[21:59] <BluesKaj> thunderbird is broken on my gutsy install ..wont open browser links in email messages
[22:00] <tekteen> Tm_T: ok, sorry :-(
[22:00] <Pollywog> ardchoille: You mean with Thunderbird?  It is installed in /usr/local/
[22:00] <jthomas> BluesKaj: do you need to set the default web browser?  if Kubuntu, do you have Firefox installed, since its not a Kubuntu default but it may be for Thunderbird
[22:00] <ardchoille> Pollywog: With any app/package. The package manager is there for a reason and I feel it should be used at all times.
[22:00] <Pollywog> ardchoille: the version in Gutsy was too old
[22:01] <ardchoille> Pollywog: Well, untarring stuff to /usr/local can't be a good thing to do.
[22:01] <BluesKaj> jthomas, nope tried all that already ...nothing works
[22:01] <Pollywog> ardchoille: I have used Debian and derivatives for some 8 yrs and have not had too many problems
[22:01] <ardchoille> Pollywog: This is not debian ;)
[22:02] <Pollywog> it just means a little more work sometimes
[22:02] <jthomas> Pollywog: worksforme eh? ;)
[22:02] <ardchoille> jthomas: lol
[22:02] <Pollywog> ardchoille: that is what they say in #debian...   "This is not ubuntu"
[22:02] <BluesKaj> jthomas, it works fine as email client. It just won't link to any URLs , no matter which browser is set to default
[22:02] <ardchoille> Pollywog: I've used ubuntu since 2004 and the biggest problem I had was how to change the kmenu icon. This is because I never circumvent the package manager.
[22:03] <Pollywog> jthomas: this is not Redhat :)
[22:03] <jthomas> hmm... BluesKaj you're generally the most knowledgeable person in here...
[22:03] <BluesKaj> anyway , i'm getting to like kmail and konq :)
[22:03] <Mr_Sonoma> what program would yall recomend for editing quick time videos?
[22:03] <jthomas> yeah i love kmail
[22:03] <stamen> !compiz
[22:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:03] <Pollywog> ardchoille: sometimes one has to be flexible
[22:03] <ardchoille> Pollywog: Suit yourself.
[22:03] <BluesKaj> jthomas, i beg to differ on that point  :)
[22:04] <Pollywog> I have been warned
[22:04] <jthomas> Mr_Sonoma: KDEnlive perhaps?  Not sure tho and its current export settings donm't work too well for NTSC (North America /Japan) output...
[22:05] <jthomas> Mr_Sonoma: but you may have different experiences.  QuickTime is a closed codec, so you may have better luck reencoding it to a more "standard" format
[22:05] <Pollywog> why does System Settings have a tab for Windows programs?
[22:06] <Mr_Sonoma> jthomas, thats what i feared unfortunately Kodak camras save video into quicktime format.
[22:06] <Pollywog> under "Advanced"
[22:06] <Tm_T> Pollywog: because of Wine ?
[22:06] <Pollywog> Tm_T: ty
[22:06] <Mr_Sonoma> jthomas, thanks for the suggestion i'll check it out
[22:06] <jhutchins_lt> Mr_Sonoma: Try avidemux.  Don't know if it'll have the codecs, but generally if you can view it in Linux, you can edit.
[22:07] <jthomas> Mr_Sonoma: yeah...  well KDEnlive (really, the MLT backend) is working on getting full, all-codec, all framerate, all awesomeness support for all video types, but not sure if they're there for QuickTime or not.  Try it!
[22:07] <jthomas> I've never 'got' AVIdemux.
[22:08] <Pollywog> Anyone know if there will ever be a front-end for the Linux version of TrueCrypt?
[22:08] <Pollywog> a graphical one
[22:08] <jhutchins_lt> avidemux2 is the package I think.  I've used it to reformat some DVD's.
[22:08] <BlackDiamonds> Pollywog isn't there one already ?
[22:08] <BlackDiamonds> I don't think it's offical but I'm sure there is one
[22:08] <jhutchins_lt> There is also a good video packaging tool for building a DVD out of video, tovid.
[22:08] <Pollywog> BlackDiamonds: if there is it is news to me
[22:08] <BlackDiamonds> I could have sworn there was one
[22:08] <Pollywog> BlackDiamonds: I will look for one
[22:09] <tekteen> it does not seem to be in gutsy
[22:09] <tekteen> I saw it is fiesty
[22:09] <Pollywog> you are right
[22:09] <Pollywog> there is one for KDE
[22:09] <jthomas> Mr_Sonoma: other video apps: devede; pitivi; openvideoeditor;
[22:09] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, for some reason when I tried to "Windows Applications", adept tries to install wine (which is fine) , but it then gives me an error saying wine is not installed ... I just installed wine thru apt and it works fine on some apps . I'm curious if there is a bugreport on that situation.
[22:09] <BlackDiamonds> Pollywog it will work just fine on a GNOME desktop
[22:10] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: no idea
[22:10] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I don't use that "stuff"
[22:10] <BluesKaj> ok Tm_T  :) , I just use wine for neotracepro
[22:11] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks fellas
[22:12] <ThusLex> anyone can help me please??
[22:12] <jthomas> !ask
[22:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:13] <ThusLex> well its the same question as before
[22:13] <ThusLex> i want my ubuntu to run from my usb key
[22:13] <tekteen> yes
[22:13] <jthomas> ah
[22:13] <ThusLex> ive extracted the .iso and put it onto my usb key
[22:13] <ThusLex> when i boot the key it says Missing Operating System...
[22:13] <jthomas> have you googled for such a process, ThusLex?
[22:13] <tekteen> There are instructions online
[22:14] <jthomas> it likely needs, at a minimum, the boot loader installed.
[22:14] <BluesKaj> Mr_ Sonoma, there's also CLI /GUI app called Tovid
[22:14] <ThusLex> boot loader installed?
[22:14] <ThusLex> so i cant just go into an itnernet cafe with my usb key and use it in there?
[22:14] <ThusLex> i have to install tons of stuff?
[22:14] <jthomas> something to tell the computer that there is an actual OS on that USB drive
[22:15] <tekteen> ThusLex: does your computer boot from a usb stick
[22:15] <jthomas> ThusLex: have you googled for it?
[22:15] <ThusLex> no
[22:15] <ScorpKing> !duel boot
[22:15] <ere4si> http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[22:15] <ThusLex> what do i type? how to boot ubuntu from usb key
[22:15] <jthomas> ThusLex: prob not install tons, or anything, but you have to tell the drive (the USB disk drive) to let the computer know, at boot time, that there is an OS on the USB drive
[22:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duel boot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:15] <jthomas> yep that's what I would type
[22:16] <ScorpKing> bah. does anyone know the !factoid for  duelboot?
[22:16] <ere4si> Thuslex: right !dualbootclick the link from me
[22:16] <tekteen> ThusLex: u will not be able to configure the internet cafe computer
[22:16] <sharkp> Hi guys
[22:16] <Pollywog> ThusLex: I think you have to go to the BIOS and set to boot from USB stick
[22:17] <tekteen> hi sharkp
[22:17] <sharkp> kicker doesn't start automatically
[22:17] <sharkp> How can I solve this problem?
[22:17] <Pollywog> some BIOSes do not allow it though
[22:17]  * ScorpKing agrees with tekteen
[22:17] <ThusLex> ive done that pollywog
[22:17] <jthomas> yes i agree, most internet cafes have older machines which won't likely boot from the USB; also are probably already running; and third won't likely allow you to change their boot order.
[22:17] <ThusLex> well ok not so much an internet cafe
[22:17] <ThusLex> but a friends computer
[22:17] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | ScorpKing
[22:17] <ubotu> ScorpKing: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:17] <ThusLex> or another computer of mine etc.
[22:18] <ScorpKing> ty BluesKaj :D
[22:18] <BluesKaj> :)
[22:18] <jthomas> ThusLex: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[22:18] <sharkp> kicker doesn't start automatically
[22:18] <sharkp> How can I solve this problem?
[22:18] <sara> hello
[22:18] <ThusLex> yes im readnig the tutorial
[22:18] <ThusLex> thanks :)
[22:18] <tekteen> hello sara
[22:18] <Tm_T> sharkp: please don't repeat
[22:18] <sara> go to kysysguard .. process manager and kill kicker than
[22:18] <sara> log out and back in
[22:19] <sharkp> Tm_T: ok...
[22:19] <sara> or go to terminal and type killall kicker
[22:19] <sara> but kysysguard is your friend
[22:19] <sharkp> sara: are u talking with me?
[22:19] <sara> GUI
[22:19] <sara> i was yah
[22:20] <ThusLex> 7.04 is the newest ubuntu right?
[22:20] <sara> u said kicker not starting auto
[22:20] <sharkp> yes
[22:20] <sharkp> italian?
[22:20] <sara> did you close it in process manager?
[22:20] <jthomas> no, 7.10 is the newest
[22:20] <jthomas> ThusLex: 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[22:21] <sara> i have a question, i have a couple games that will not play no matter what in wine, i am now going to do the unthinkable and make a windows parttion for the purpose on a USB 500 gig harddrive... can I use qparted to make a parttion on the external hd?
[22:22] <sara> I dont wnat to loose whats on the drive just make a 50 gig parttion for windows
[22:23] <sara> qparted wouldnt let me resize the USB's parttion
[22:23] <jthomas> what type of file system is the USB drive
[22:23] <jthomas> ?
[22:23] <sara> fat 32
[22:24] <sara> maybe because it was mounted?
[22:24] <jthomas> yes thats a good bet
[22:25] <vbgunz> wow, after 3 hours, reported my bugs and wishes. at least now I may have a reason to complain when it comes to Hardy :)
[22:25] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you can't do much of anything with mounted partitions
[22:25] <illissius> yuriy: if you care, it seems the problem might've been an erronous copy or something
[22:25] <illissius> copied / over a second time and it works now
[22:25] <illissius> (thank god)
[22:26] <ScorpKing> and cp
[22:26] <illissius> ...so now to actually put the drive in the notebook.
[22:27] <sara> can I should i make the new partition ext 3 ? its lettimg me do it now
[22:27] <ScorpKing> illissius: what did you do if i may ask? cloned the hd?
[22:27] <illissius> ScorpKing: got a new hdd (connected w/ usb). copied everything over, booted from it
[22:27] <illissius> and everything worked fine except kdm wouldn't log me in, seemed to crash or something
[22:28] <illissius> right so, hopefully brb.
[22:28] <ScorpKing> illissius: o i see. got a new one myself a while ago and just used dd to clone it to a nfs server and back to the new one. ;)
[22:29] <illissius> yeah I didn't do a bitwise clone, have a whole new partitioning arrangement and stuff, new filesystems
[22:29] <illissius> or should I say different ones
[22:29] <ScorpKing> nice
[22:35] <scotdb> what's the line command (apt-cache or whatever) to help me find which package contains a particular file (I'm looking for readline.h)
[22:36] <ScorpKing> nite guys
[22:36] <stdin> scotdb: of you don't have the package just search for the file on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[22:37] <scotdb> stdin : thanks for that.   Just moved from SuSE to Kubuntu and still struggling a bit with apt-get commands
[22:40] <squid0> !firewall
[22:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:53] <jembouge> scotdb :  apt-cache search my_package
[22:54] <jembouge> oops, I'm late
[22:54] <ThusLex> oh how gay is that
[22:54] <ThusLex> the disc im using is 1.68 mb too small to fit the lot in it -_-
[22:54] <Sanne> jembouge: that doesn't search for files in a package, though
[22:54] <stdin> !ohmy | ThusLex
[22:54] <ubotu> ThusLex: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:55] <madik> Sanne: dpkg -S is what youre searching for
[22:55] <ThusLex> sorry
[22:55] <stdin> madik: only works if you have the package (and hence the file) installed
[22:55] <vzduch> there's no such command for apt by default.. there is, however, some extra pkg to achieve that
[22:55] <vzduch> I forgot the name
[22:55] <Sanne> madik: not me... scotdb asked :) but thanks anyway
[22:56] <Dragnslcr> !info apt-file
[22:56] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB
[22:56] <Dragnslcr> I think that's the one
[23:01] <Pollywog> I will just have to learn to use TrueCrypt on the command line, TCgui is not working for me
[23:01] <Pollywog> it isn't mounting anything
[23:03] <scotdb> folks , yes search isn't what I need.   It does a text search of the package but gives way too much noise
[23:03] <scotdb> There must be an equiv to the RPM what-provides options
[23:04] <illissius> so yeah, I encountered some physical problems
[23:04] <illissius> in the form of not having a fucking screwdriver
[23:04] <jembouge> have you tried to add --help to your prob scotdb ?
[23:04] <illissius> but a knife worked well enough.
[23:04] <jembouge> cause I guess this is what programs like adept or the likes use
[23:05] <stdin> illissius: what are you doing?
[23:05] <jembouge> apt-get and apt-cache (but I'm not a safe source of information)
[23:05] <illissius> stdin: new hdd for the notebook
[23:06] <stdin> ahh, watch the language though please
[23:06] <illissius> yeah, sorry
[23:07] <Pollywog> TrueCrypt is easy to use on the command line  :)
[23:08] <myndbreaker> there's a nice front end for gnome for truecrypt called forcefield
[23:09] <scotdb> jembouge : yes ... also tried the man page of apt-cache
[23:09] <scotdb> Googling seems to suggest you need to go in at a lower level using dpkg to get this info
[23:12] <continentaltest> beginner question -- we want to completely get out of the Windoze environment after yet another catastrophic (and seemingly annual) NTFS failure.  Have been evaluating Kubuntu actively on several machines.  We have a couple of applications that its seems must use Win2k or WinXP (Quickbooks and Solidworks).  However, I no longer trust anything MS and want to know if a dual boot environment is plausible using only GRUB.  I hav
[23:12] <jembouge> scotdb : well then I'm sorry I won't of any help, I'm still a noob  :)
[23:17] <ardchoille> continentaltest: Yes, a dual-boot environment can be done and quite easily, many do it. Hwoever, you might also want to consider using Linux equivalents to those last two apps.
[23:17] <ardchoille> continentaltest: What is Quickbooks and Solidworks?
[23:17] <myndbreaker> or you could use a vm for those apps...
[23:18] <ardchoille> myndbreaker: He'd still be using Windows in the vm, tho, right?
[23:18] <myndbreaker> yeah, but you can do regular snapshots from the machines...
[23:19] <ThusLex> meh
[23:19] <tekteen> ardchoille: continentaltest is talking about a biz accounting program (quickbooks)
[23:19] <ThusLex> ive put ubuntu on my disc
[23:19] <ThusLex> but it wont boot..
[23:19] <ThusLex> ive lookd at the BIOS and CD/DVD is number 1...
[23:19] <ardchoille> continentaltest: I will say that there are some of us who have been happily using Linux since before 2001 and haven't touched Windows since :)
[23:19] <ThusLex> but it still boots window :S
[23:20] <tekteen> continentaltest: dual boot is an option
[23:20] <myndbreaker> ardchoille, continentaltest: if he dualboots he still uses a windows installation, which is harder to restore in full...
[23:20] <tekteen> continentaltest: my laptop has it :-)
[23:20] <ardchoille> myndbreaker: Ah, right, good point
[23:20] <myndbreaker> yeah dualboot works fine...
[23:20] <tekteen> yep
[23:21] <ThusLex> anyone got any advice?
[23:21] <myndbreaker> ardchoille: the only problem is the performance...
[23:21] <tekteen> every machine in my house (if it has win at all) has it
[23:21] <tekteen> myndbreaker: u only get a lost of hd space
[23:21] <continentaltest> still looking for satisfactory equivalents for QBooks and Solidworks running native under Linux .... understand that dual boot is an option.  Just want to see some details RE using GRUB as the only boot loader to get access to the WindozeXP image when needed.
[23:21] <ardchoille> My house machines: 11 Linux, 0 other :)
[23:21] <BanisterKelly> !dvd
[23:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:21] <ThusLex> someone help plz?
[23:21] <tekteen> continentaltest: there is gnucash
[23:21] <myndbreaker> ThusLex: is there a choice for a temporary boot medium in your POST
[23:21] <ThusLex> why cant i get my computer to boot the disc
[23:21] <ThusLex> hm
[23:22] <ThusLex> in my POST?
[23:22] <tekteen> the prob is that it is more for accountants :-(
[23:22] <continentaltest> also, have tried the VM options ... WINE is not mature enough to be stable for Solidworks and we are still testing VirtualBox, so the jury is out as to whether a decent VM will suffice so that dual boot can be avoided.
[23:22] <ardchoille> continentaltest: If this is fr personal accounting, there are: gnucash, kmymoney2, moneydance and others.
[23:22] <myndbreaker> ThusLex: While the BIOS is booting
[23:22] <continentaltest> haven't heard of GNUcash ... will investigate that too.
[23:22] <ron_> can anyone help with xinerama?
[23:23] <ThusLex> i dont know
[23:23] <tekteen> ardchoille: gnucash is a BIZ accounting program
[23:23] <ThusLex> all i do is press F2
[23:23] <ThusLex> go to Boot
[23:23] <ardchoille> tekteen: Ah, ok
[23:23] <ThusLex> then select CD/DVD: as number 1
[23:23] <ThusLex> then save and exit
[23:23] <tekteen> ardchoille: it gives all the accounting reports. :-)
[23:23] <continentaltest> thanks ardchoille - I'll check them out - but its for business accounting, we use QBooks Pro and timekeeping and payroll
[23:23] <ardchoille> continentaltest: You might investigate gnucash then
[23:24] <ron_> ardchoille:GNUcash is a nice accounting prog I use it for home accounts
[23:24] <continentaltest> noted.
[23:24] <myndbreaker> continentaltest: I'm using virtualbox to, it works fine for me, no problems yet and the performance is acceptable...
[23:24] <continentaltest> myndbreaker:  what machine config?  speed, ram, etc.
[23:24] <Pollywog> pollywog@slider:~$ mkfs.vfat /dev/mapper/truecrypt0    says permission denied
[23:24] <Pollywog> do I need to be root?
[23:24] <tekteen> yep
[23:24] <tekteen> sudo it
[23:25] <Pollywog> tekteen: ty they should have said that in the tutorial  :)
[23:25] <ardchoille> continentaltest: Linux can run on almost anything, but you might need to look into the specs required for specific distros
[23:25] <myndbreaker> continentaltest: i use  it mostly on my laptop, it's a centrino duocore 1660 MHz and 1 GB RAM
[23:26] <ThusLex> hm
[23:26] <ThusLex> do i have to extract the iso before putting it on a disc?
[23:26] <ThusLex> or do i have to burn the whole iso onto a disc?
[23:26] <myndbreaker> continentaltest: but i'm also using it on my workstation which is a AMD Athlon XP2800 and 1 GB RAM.
[23:26] <tekteen> I have run it on anything with 386 or more (may go lower)
[23:26] <continentaltest> I have already installed several diff distros across 6 machines and they work great.  We are just concerned about dual boot using GRUB and whether we can install winxp that way.
[23:26] <tekteen> 386 MB of RAM*
[23:27] <tekteen> continentaltest: it is tricky
[23:27] <myndbreaker> ThusLex:  you have to open the iso in a burn application and burn it, don extract it before burning...
[23:27] <fredrik> .have some serius trubble, was uppgrading to 7.10. but during this I oppend a link in Konversation, for some reason it wanted to open it in the uppdate managher. Bekause of this it stalled and can not be restarted because apt.get/aptetude is runnign in thebacground (rebooting does not help)
[23:27] <tekteen> continentaltest: I can do it but it is only for people who know what they are doing
[23:27] <continentaltest> I know what I'm doing
[23:28] <tekteen> continentaltest: u know how to edit grub?
[23:28] <ThusLex> ok
[23:28] <tekteen> that is the hardest part
[23:29] <continentaltest> just looking for some detailed reading to get some of the finer points.  can do it with NTLDR, just don't trust MS any longer.  Yes, I can edit Grub.  But I just got a call that I have to take, and must check back later.  I'll leave this conversation open and record if you can give me some posts to read.  thanks again ...
[23:29] <continentaltest> bye for now .. leaving open
[23:29] <tekteen> bye
[23:29] <myndbreaker> continentaltest: install xp first and then the linux, it's easier this way...
[23:29] <myndbreaker> bye
[23:31] <ben_> plop
[23:32] <BanisterKelly> Which is better for installing programs/updates, Adept or Synaptic?
[23:32] <BanisterKelly> Synaptic seems better.
[23:32] <trpr> they do the same thing. just pick your favorite
[23:32] <fredrik> what is "process manager" called in kubuntu?
[23:32] <hydrogen> kde system guard
[23:33] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: they both use the same backend. It is up to u
[23:33] <hydrogen> hit ctrl + escape
[23:33] <hydrogen> to see it
[23:33] <fredrik> §thanks
[23:33] <BanisterKelly> Thank you all.  I am trying to find a way to play a DVD in Kubuntu.
[23:33] <tekteen> !dvd
[23:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:33] <tekteen> !medibuntu
[23:33] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:33] <BanisterKelly> I was there, and aparently I am doing something wrong.
[23:34] <tekteen> I can play dvds
[23:34] <BanisterKelly> I was told to get KDE Multimedia so I am doing that in Synaptic.
[23:34] <tekteen> I installed libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[23:34] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: unless u get libdvdcss2 it will not work
[23:35] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: the package it for decrypting the DVD
[23:35] <BanisterKelly> Okay.  Once it is finisihed I will look that up.
[23:35] <tekteen> ok
[23:35] <tekteen> hope that helps
[23:35] <tekteen> is *
[23:35] <BanisterKelly> brb scanning for libdvdcss2
[23:36] <tekteen> bye
[23:36] <BanisterKelly> Synaptic cannot find anything.
[23:37] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: did u install the medibuntu repo?
[23:37] <BanisterKelly> No, tekteen,
[23:37] <tekteen> ok
[23:37] <BanisterKelly> Still learning here.
[23:37] <tekteen> !medibuntu
[23:37] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[23:37] <tekteen> no problem
[23:37] <BanisterKelly> Been running a few days so far and I have no reason to scrap it.
[23:38] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: great. lol :-)
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> OTW
[23:38] <tekteen> what does OTW mean?
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> On the way
[23:38] <tekteen> ok
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> lol
[23:38]  * tekteen does not im much
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> Something a friend always used and I ended up using it too,
[23:39] <BanisterKelly> lol
[23:39] <tekteen> lol
[23:39] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: just making sure u got to this site <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu>
[23:40] <BanisterKelly> I am there reading.  Thank you very much.
[23:40] <tekteen> np
[23:40] <ThusLex> meh
[23:41] <ThusLex> ok so ive burnt the .iso to my disc
[23:41] <ThusLex> it still doesnt boot the disc first...
[23:41] <tekteen> ThusLex: have u set the bios to boot from cd?
[23:41] <ThusLex> yes
[23:41] <ThusLex> CD/DVD: is number 1
[23:41] <ThusLex> but it keeps booting window...
[23:42] <tekteen> Have u verified that it was burned right?
[23:42] <jughead> How can I enable the mouse in games?  I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 and the latest flgrx driver installed with Envy.  Whenever I start a 3D game, the mouse pointer disappears
[23:42] <ThusLex> how do i verify it then?
[23:43] <NickPresta> ThusLex, when you view the contents of the CD, do you just see one iso file?
[23:43] <ThusLex> yes
[23:43] <NickPresta> Then you burned it incorrectly
[23:43] <NickPresta> you need to burn it as an ISO image, not an data CD
[23:43] <ThusLex> well im using vista
[23:43] <tekteen> NickPresta: u r a genus! :-)
[23:43] <ThusLex> and its the default burner
[23:43] <ThusLex> so how the hell would i do that? :D
[23:43] <tekteen> get infrarecorder
[23:44] <tekteen> infra recorder*
[23:44] <tekteen> then burn is as an image
[23:44] <ThusLex> ok thanks, i'll give it a go now
[23:44] <NickPresta> ThusLex, try http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm too
[23:45] <red> hello
[23:45] <maverick_> hey, Whenever  am copying files to my home folder i get the error message "couldn't change permission for -filename- " ...any ideas how to fix this ?!!
[23:45] <tekteen> hello red
[23:45] <maverick_> am using gutsy
[23:46] <NickPresta> copying files from where? maverick_
[23:46] <maverick_> desktop or anywhere else...i.e not windows folder
[23:47] <maverick_> i read it happens mainly with ppl trying to compy to or from smb mounted windows folders
[23:50] <ThusLex> NickPresta: your ISO Recorder: This software works on Windows XP only .
[23:50] <NickPresta> ThusLex, V3 is for Vista
[23:50] <NickPresta> third link on the main page
[23:51] <ThusLex> ah ok :D
[23:52] <maverick_> NickPresta: so you've got any ideas?!!
[23:52] <ThusLex> meh
[23:53] <ThusLex> it now comes up: This installation package is not supported by this processor type. Contact your product vendor
[23:53] <NickPresta> ThusLex, it worked for a friend of mine. YMMV. There are plenty of recorders which can burn ISO images.
[23:53] <NickPresta> Nero works very well, if you have it
[23:54] <ThusLex> yeah
[23:54] <ThusLex> neros last resort
[23:54] <ThusLex> let me just try this infrarecorder
[23:57] <ThusLex> hm
[23:57] <ThusLex> burning now :D
[23:57]  * ThusLex fingers cross
[23:58] <ThusLex> so what should i see when i open the contents of the dvd?
[23:59] <BanisterKelly> Working now.  Thank you all so very much.  Linux just keeps getting better.