[18:46] <hubert_> Sysinfo for 'hplaptop': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 800 MHz (3192 bogomips), , RAM: 968/1001MB, 114 proc's, 22.13min up
[18:47] <hubert_> fsamson /sysinfo
[18:47] <xp-killer> is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time?
[18:47] <neothecat> another question... i am using KDE 4.2 RC 2.  kmail keeps on seg faulting when i go into my inbox.  has anybody else seen this, and i just need to wait for 4.2 to go gold?
[18:47] <fsamson> Sysinfo for 'fsamson-desktop': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.4 (KDE 4.1.4), CPU: AMDAthlon644000+ at 2410 MHz (4821 bogomips), HD: 252/986GB, RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up
[18:47] <fsamson> nice
[18:47] <fsamson> RAM: 1955/2024MB, 145 proc's, 20.34h up
[18:47] <fsamson> 1955 used?
[18:47] <fsamson> no way..
[18:47] <xp-killer> is there a way to do multip folder instead of right clikin on the mouse to creat a folder all the time?
[18:48] <fsamson> good question
[18:48] <hubert_> mkdir folder1 folder2
[18:49] <hubert_> or mkdir -p folder1/subfolder1
[18:49] <fsamson> hubert knowns all
[18:50] <xp-killer> hubert_: i have to open a terminal on the window where i want the folders?
[18:52] <hubert_> yes xp-killer
[18:53] <xp-killer> hubert_: cool it work tanks
[18:53] <Koordin> how can i uninstall these drivers ? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html
[18:55] <hubert_> Koordin: i had a proplem with those as well,   removing the prepacked ubuntu version made the nvidia from site work
[18:56] <Koordin> hubert_: but i want to uninstall these (cause i have a display problem
[18:56] <zer0o> hi how do i get rid of Korganizer? even if i uncheck the "start at boo" option it starts automaticly at each boot, then i unistalled it from the repos, reboot, still there!!!! how do i get rid of it? help :D
[18:57] <||arifaX> hi, I have a wlan button on my notebook. if I forget to activate it before linux is up I can't enable wlan anymore. tried loading some modules but does only work when on at reboot. what can I do to find out how to activate it manually even if not on at boot?
[18:58] <fabio> ciao
[18:58] <fabio> raga
[19:00] <genii> zer0o: sudo apt-get remove --purge korganizer             But it still won't neccesarily remove shortcuts, rc files or so on which are in home directories. Only system files which it originally installed with the package.
[19:00] <Lokiase> hello all, can someone tell me how to go from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[19:01] <genii> fabio: /join #ubuntu-it       for Italian
[19:01] <hubert_> Lokiase:  if you want kde desktop    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:02] <fabio> ok sorry :)
[19:02] <zer0o> genii: thank u man! and how do i remove the other stuff? i can do it manually but i dunno where the files are located physically
[19:03] <JackWinter> how do i disable hardware rendering and switch on software rendering for kde4 in 8.10.
[19:03] <Lokiase> hubert_: doesnt it conflict with the languages?
[19:03] <hubert_> what do you mean languages ?
[19:03] <Lokiase> last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english
[19:04] <Lokiase> hubert_: last time I installed kubuntu desktop, some things were in dutch, some in english
[19:05] <hubert_> that depens on how much packages are translated, and if you installed all the localized packages, and if all the settings are correct
[19:05] <zer0o> genii: while removing it thatz what the output said http://paste.ubuntu.com/107902/ does this mean it removed also kdepim? i needed that! does it mean kdepim cant work without korganizer? uff...
[19:06] <Riddell> ** kubuntu bug squishing talk in #ubuntu-classroom
[19:09] <Lokiase> hubert_: now its asks me kdm of gdm???
[19:11] <hubert_>  dm is display manager,  k is for kde,  g for gnome ,
[19:11] <Lokiase> so K?:)
[19:11] <hubert_> what you prefer,   most kde users choose kdm
[19:16] <genii> zer0o: You could try after to install kdepim
[19:17] <naibed> pwet
[19:18] <bukharin> hello. does anyone know how to disable the session lock on suspend?
[19:18] <bukharin> i have two users on one laptop, when one suspends, the computer is able to resume without needfor a pasword, but when the session belongs to the other user, the computer suspendes and also locks the session, requiring a password for resume.
[19:18] <bukharin> i want to leave it as no password for all users...
[19:19] <bukharin> but i can't find any conf option in kde to manage this...
[19:19] <bukharin> (this is kde 3.5.9, on hardy)
[19:20] <jado> i have a big prolem : "the Nvidia kernel module has version
[19:20] <jado> 180.22 but ths nvidia driver component has version 180.11
[19:28] <genii> jado: Does: apt-cache policy nvidia-new-kernel-source                      report version 180.22 as being available to install?
[19:29] <xp-killer> u admins dont get bored of the same questions over n over n doing the samething everyday?
[19:29] <uten> xp-killer: We live for it
[19:29] <uten> or
[19:29] <uten> at least the bots do
[19:32] <xp-killer> uten: ok if u say so.
[19:33] <uten> It's rarely ever the same thing every day just in between releases
[19:33] <uten> new release different things to anwser
[19:33] <uten> Just do it every day till the new release
[19:33] <uten> at least in Kubuntu we have 4 releases a year
[19:34] <xp-killer> yeah but its a kind of scrary to upgrade and loose eveything
[19:35] <uten> You don't have to upgrade
[19:36] <TimS> Is there anyway to fix an FLV header? I can't play or convert this file because of a header error, and I don't know how to fix this :/
[19:38] <bukharin> does anyone know how to stop the session from locking up on suspend?
[19:40] <uten> Tims: oketa ?
[19:41] <indystorm> ok so I have kubuntu installed on a usb memory stick.... now I want to get a web browser that supports flash- how do I get it on my system?
[19:42] <genii> bukharin: Try in /etc/default/acpi-support   changing LOCK_SCREEN=true  to LOCK_SCREEN=false
[19:42] <genii> indystorm: You are running now on usb version or still on installer cd or so?
[19:43] <indystorm> no I am running kubuntu directly off the usb memory card- it's a bit slow on disk access, but otherwise runs very fast
[19:43] <bukharin> genii: but that's a system wide conifg... i only experience lock up with one user, other users suspend without locks....
[19:44] <uten> Did that one user change something?
[19:44] <genii> indystorm: So then just install firefox and flashplugin-nonfree   the normal way
[19:45] <indystorm> ok now how do I install firefox?
[19:45] <indystorm> can I do it with adept?
[19:46] <uten> Ye
[19:46] <uten> s
[19:47] <genii> indystorm: For flashplugin-nonfree      you will need to enable the multiverse repository in Adept
[19:54] <lakis1982> hello .. i have a driver that i want to install for my webcam.. its in tar.gz   format ... how do i install it .. does anyone know ???
[19:57] <marcel> exist another client program like Kopete under ubuntu ?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> lakis1982, in the terminal : tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz ..then go into the folder it creates and find the readme test for further instructions.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> test=text
[19:57] <uten> marcel:
[19:58] <marcel> yes
[19:58] <uten> not quite like kopete
[19:58] <Jado> hi i need help ; i can't have the 640x480 resolution : my desktop does not scale on the screen
[19:58] <uten> lakis1982: un tar it
[19:58] <lakis1982> let me try
[19:58] <marcel> i want to use YM under ubuntu, kopete fails
[19:58] <genii> lakis1982: Un-tar the file. Make sure you have packages build-essential  and linux-headers-$(uname -r)    installed. Then cd into the dir which it untarred to. Read the readme file there.
[19:59] <marcel> uten: do you know the name of program please ??
[19:59] <genii> lakis1982: The usual instructions in the readme will be something like:  make && sudo make install          then likely:sudo depmod -a            if it's a module
[19:59] <uten> !im
[20:00] <marcel> Pidgin , thank you
[20:00] <nico_> ciao
[20:00] <lakis1982> i untar it and a folder was created
[20:01] <lakis1982> there is inside a file with name read and install ... but it doesnt say anything avout installation
[20:01] <lakis1982> its saying about compiling the driver
[20:01] <uten> The compilation will install.
[20:03] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[20:03] <genii> lakis1982: Then re-read my instructions and follow them
[20:04] <lakis1982> do you guys have a webcam in linux?
[20:04] <genii> lakis1982: I use a Microsoft VX6000 which U had to compile a specialised driver for also.
[20:05] <lakis1982> i have creative webcam nx.. do you know any driver for it ??
[20:05] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu 8.10
[20:06] <uten> Jado: does your mouse push the edge of the screen?
[20:07] <indystorm> ok so it says firefox is installed, how do I access it?
[20:08] <Jado> no uten, it disappears
[20:08] <genii> lakis1982: The gspca driver should work for it
[20:08] <Jado> (only on the bottom of the screen)
[20:08] <lakis1982> and how do i install it ?
[20:09] <uten> your mouse pointer goes away when it hits the edge of the monitor?
[20:09] <genii> lakis1982: Does command:  modprobe -l | grep gspca                       show a result?
[20:10] <Jado> uten: the bottom edge, yes ; actually it does not go away, it's just that i can't see it anymore ; for example, i can click on the K-Button without seeing it, because i know that is it in the bottom left corner
[20:11] <lakis1982> it gives me some lines
[20:11] <genii> lakis1982: Good. then you already have the driver.
[20:12] <lakis1982> and why camera is not working in skype?
[20:12] <genii> lakis1982:  It should just take:  sudo modprobe gspca                      to load the driver
[20:12] <nippz> xp-killer its not scary at all
[20:12] <genii> lakis1982: skype does not always recognise the same webcams that otherwise work ok in linux. It has it's own list of approved webcams
[20:12] <lakis1982> it says....fatal : module gspca not found
[20:13] <nippz> just learn to dual boot - keep a stable and a experimental, and if your really bored you can keep same username... and backup good configs in stable so when u go expermental u can redo it easily
[20:13] <nippz> share /home
[20:15] <lakis1982> so?
[20:15] <lakis1982> it says....fatal : module gspca not found
[20:15] <mohbana> why are there so many dependencies for konqueror on ubuntu gnome
[20:15] <xp-killer> nippz: yes cause i just upgrade 3 days ago and my pc had probs and i had lots of data i didnt want to lost
[20:15] <mohbana> 1 upgraded, 32 newly installed, 0 to remove and 120 not upgraded.
[20:16] <mohbana> just to get a browser
[20:16] <Jado> uten: do you have any idea ?
[20:16] <uten> Jado: Well first question is why do you ned that low a res?
[20:16] <Jado> uten: to play starcraft ^^
[20:17] <mohbana> hello ...
[20:17] <uten> ha ha
[20:18] <Jado> ha ha ?
[20:18] <uten> Starcraft as a motivator :)
[20:19] <marcel> thank you for pidgin, run fine
[20:20] <mohbana> is anyone around
[20:20] <uten> ys
[20:20] <Jado> uten: very nice game :) and startcraft 2 will soon come out !
[20:20] <uten> Jado: I know what video card?
[20:21] <blinkz> hey can some one tell me how to get flash one kubuntu
[20:21] <genii> lakis1982: Try:sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install module-assistant && sudo module-assistant -k "/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)" auto-install gspca-source
[20:21] <blinkz> on*
[20:21] <Jado> does anyone have an idea for my 640x480 resolution problem ?
[20:21] <mohbana> why the hell do i have to install all those dependencies
[20:22] <nashk> Hi, I have two monitors. I'm wondering, is it possible when I'm switching windows to let the switching only take place on screen1 ?
[20:22] <blinkz> flash???
[20:22] <lakis1982> its downloading and installing some things
[20:23] <Jado> uten: geforce 7200
[20:23] <genii> lakis1982: If it makes some errors, use the pastebin website to copy and paste the error there so I can see what it's doing
[20:23] <uten> mohbana: For?
[20:23] <mohbana> uten: konqueror
[20:23] <uten> what driver?
[20:24] <Jado> uten: i've tried 180.11 and 180.22
[20:24] <uten> mohbana: How are you installing it?
[20:24] <genii> lakis1982: If it completes without error, you should be able to do the: sudo modprobe gspca
[20:24] <Stecchino> could anyone with KDE 4.1.3 kubuntu packages and amarok <IP_ADDRESS> please try thid: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181338
[20:24] <mohbana> uten: CL, i just typed konqueror and it gave me a install command
[20:24] <demonizer> hello
[20:24] <lakis1982> Updated infos about 1 packages
[20:24] <lakis1982> Bad kernel version specification at /usr/bin/module-assistant line 566, <$apt> line 6.
[20:24] <lakis1982> thats the only thing it gave me..
[20:24] <lakis1982> is it error?
[20:25] <demonizer> ...........................................................
[20:25] <genii> lakis1982: Yes.
[20:25] <uten> mohbana: sudo apt-get install konqueror
[20:25] <mohbana> uten: yes
[20:25] <demonizer> lakis1982: yeah it is
[20:25] <lakis1982> so?
[20:25] <uten> that will instal depends
[20:26] <mohbana> my question is; why so many dependencies.  i just want to install the browser not the whole platform
[20:26] <dstar> Well. That's fun. I can oops my system by doing wine /path/to/arcanum/setup.exe twice....
[20:26] <genii> lakis1982: Try only then: sudo module-assistant auto-install gspca-source                                  you will get a text interface, you want to select BUILD
[20:28] <uten> mohbana: Konqueror isn't really a browser it's a viewer
[20:28] <uten> It's probably the most heavy user of KDE technologies
[20:28] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination
[20:28] <lakis1982> Build of the package gspca-source failed! How do you wish     │
[20:28] <uten> Hence why it is in the base install
[20:28] <lakis1982>        │ to proceed?                                                   │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │                                                               │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       VIEW     Examine the build log file                     │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       CONTINUE Skip and continue with the next operation      │
[20:29] <lakis1982>        │       STOP     Stop processing the build commands
[20:29] <mohbana> so what browser uses webkit then
[20:29] <lakis1982> view?
[20:29] <Pici> !paste
[20:29] <uten> Auroa
[20:30] <tyler_d2> looking to fix my drive -- when I run ntfslabel /dev/sdb1 it produces an error, wants windows, I don't want to do this?
[20:30] <genii> lakis1982: Yes, you should have a red and blue screen with a few items to choose from in the middle. This responds only to key entriy, no mouse. Use arrow keys to choose selection, enter to activate. Tab switches fields
[20:31] <mohbana> aurora is a browser?
[20:32] <genii> !pastebin | lakis
[20:32] <lakis1982> ok but its a large text and i can select it all with mouse because it doesnt work...
[20:32] <lakis1982> i cant select
[20:33] <uten> mohbana: What are you looking for specifically?
[20:33] <HappySmileMan> mohbana: I think it's spelled Arora, but yes, it's a Qt4 web browser using Webkit, Konqueror uses KHTML, which is what Webkit was forked from
[20:33] <genii> lakis1982: "[15:28:49] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination
[20:33] <mohbana> a browser on linux that uses webkit
[20:33] <uten> epiphany
[20:33] <uten> It went default webkit like a year ago
[20:33] <genii> lakis1982: "[15:28:49] <genii> lakis1982: If it errors out again, choose "view log"   from the options, go to bottom of the log, copy and pastebin for examination"   --note I said go to bottom of log there, highlight the last part you can see
[20:34] <genii> Sorry for dbl post guys
[20:35] <lakis1982> http://paste.ubuntu.com/107958/plain/
[20:37] <uten> hmm
[20:37] <uten> not sure
[20:37] <ptroke> I have a puzzle with Intrepid and Open Office. With openoffice.org-kde it does not save or export. Without, the menues don't behave properly. Any ideas?
[20:38] <uten> how does it not save?
[20:39] <lakis1982> also something else.. when i put a dvd movie on the dvd player in pc kubuntu doesnt load it ...and i cant see the movie..generally no disc is autorun ... why ???
[20:44] <genii> Bah. Work is requiring me for an extended period. I'll need to be /away a while
[20:45] <genii> lakis1982: At any rate, perhaps google about installing the gspca driver for ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:45] <sergio4> hi
[20:46] <sergio4> ciao
[20:48] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[20:48] <uten> Jado: You can ask in #ubuntu as well
[20:48] <uten> It's not a KDE specific issue
[20:48] <Jado> yes uten thanks i am
[20:54] <ptroke> uten: If your message was for me? I have removed openoffice extensions for GTK, Gnome and KDE. Open Office is running fine and very fast! Apearence is a bit clunky though.
[20:54] <raidenovich> hey guys, im trying to add mount over a samba folder.. what do i have to add in /etc/fstab?  "//server/laptop     /home/raiden/Server     cifs      defaults   0,0" doesnt work
[20:55] <uten> :-) but it saves?
[20:55] <mohbana> how do i uninstall konqueror and it's dependencies ?
[20:56] <uten> mohbana: Which one did you install?
[20:56] <uten> KDE4?
[20:56] <ptroke> uten: loads, save exports, does all that I would expect it to. I will raise the issue with kubuntu, kde and openoffice.org. There's a bug in there somewhere.
[20:57] <mohbana> uten: i just want to uninstall konqueror, arora seems fine
[20:57] <mohbana> i remember konqeuror downloading a heep of files
[20:57] <uten> apt-get remove konqueror
[20:58] <mohbana> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 120 not upgraded.
[20:58] <mohbana> which is strange
[20:58] <mohbana> what about the rest of the 32 packages is just installed
[21:02] <fliegenderfrosch> mohbana: in theory you should be able to do a sudo apt-get autoremove afterwards, where it removes the additional libraries
[21:05] <uten> mohbana: auroa uses them? :)
[21:10] <khaije1> hi, is there a clean way to completely switch an install from ubuntu to kubuntu such that there isn't any left over ubuntu packages?
[21:12] <raidenovich> i worked on my /etc/fstab, now it tells me that something is missing at the end of the file.. i dont know the english word but i think it is "tab"
[21:13] <rickest> khaije1: the convention would be
[21:13] <rickest> apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  whether or not that would leave any remnants behind, I don't know
[21:13] <mohbana> how do i get the dependencies of a package on the CL for apt?
[21:14] <rickest> it has to be said that the only way to be sure is a clean install, of course
[21:14] <xp-killer> How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view"
[21:15] <rickest> mohbana: aptitude show <pkgname>
[21:15] <rickest> mohbana: or apt-cache depends <pkgname>
[21:16] <rickest> by CL, I assumed you meant CLI
[21:17] <mohbana> last question, can i find out when a package was installed?
[21:17] <mauri> ciao, qualcuno parla italiano?
[21:17] <rickest> not that I know of
[21:17] <rickest> !it
[21:18] <mauri> ok, grazie
[21:20] <mohbana> is there an install log kept by apt or something along those lines
[21:20] <sven_> hello all,how can I add widgets to the panel?
[21:21] <slow-motion> hi
[21:22] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: afaik this depends on the version you have. with the newer versions you should be able to drag them directly to the panel, at least if the panel is in 'edit mode'
[21:23] <sven_> fliegenderfrosch: I click right to the button, but when i want to drag them to it, it is not working
[21:24] <rickest> mohbana: /var/log/aptitude*, but probably not complete as old logs were rotated out
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: have you clicked on the cashew in the panel before?
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> sven_: which kde version do you have anyway?
[21:26] <petra> !wlan
[21:27] <xp-killer> How do i keep my folder in details option everytime i do back it comes back to "preview view"
[21:28] <david_> toosl -> configure dolpin
[21:28] <david_> choose default view there
[21:34] <indystorm> ok so now I got firefox installed but I cannot find the icon
[21:34] <indystorm> how do I get the icon?
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> indystorm: it’s probably somewhere in /usr/share/icons
[21:34] <indystorm> ok
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> indystorm: or rather in /usr/share/pixmaps
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> I’ve got a firefox-3.0.png there
[21:36] <hjuyttfrtter> hello
[21:36] <hjuyttfrtter> !list
[21:41] <fasfas3> Hi i've installed kubuntu 8.10 but it seems to be buggy as hell crashes many times back to kdm
[21:42] <fasfas3> many times after right mouse button menu's on systray icons
[21:42] <fasfas3> selecting settings from top menu in apps
[21:43] <fasfas3> i've read about some other people with comparing problems but no solutions
[21:44] <david_> fasfas3: the only thing that can make it crash back to KDM are video drivers
[21:44] <david_> KDE apps don't have the permission to do it if they tried
[21:44] <david_> NVidia I'm guessing?
[21:45] <fliegenderfrosch> fasfas3: 8.10 uses kde 4.1 and kde 4.2 should be out in a few days. this is a lot more stable, so I’d try this before working like hell on solutions
[21:45] <fasfas3> I have nvidia yes
[21:46] <powertool08> Does anyone know how to send a right ctrl signal to vbox over vnc?
[21:46] <fasfas3> but having the same problems under compiz as well
[21:46] <fasfas3> seems to be kde/dbus or something
[21:47] <fasfas3> quite unuseable
[21:47] <fasfas3> the 4.2 beta is somewhat better
[21:49] <fliegenderfrosch> powertool08: some vnc clients have a special function for sending commands
[21:50] <jazgator> After installing Ubunto I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed?
[21:51] <deathoncity> hi all
[21:53] <sven_> hello all, how do I add a hyperlink on the desktop of kubuntu 8.10?
[21:54] <deathoncity> i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu
[21:54] <deathoncity> can i have some help please...?.
[22:03] <indystorm> ok so I found that I can type mozilla as a run command and have it start- how do I make a desktop icon for it?
[22:06] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[22:09] <demarco> Any help in the room?
[22:09] <mcrandello> is there a way to manually load a plasmoid widget if it doesn't show in the plasmoid browser?
[22:09] <mcrandello> I built the plasmoid, did a checkinstall, installed the pkg, no errors, not showing in the plasmoid browser after logging out\in, crtl-alt-bksp, or runnig kbuildsyscoca4
[22:10] <mcrandello> the kde guys are awful reticent
[22:10] <mcrandello> maybe the suspect it's the ihatethecashew widget I'm trying to add
[22:10] <cjae> Hi how doI remove dragon player from kubuntu, sudo apt-get purge dragonplayer tries to remove kubuntu-desktop
[22:11] <mcrandello> kubuntu-desktop is what they call a meta pkg I think
[22:11] <cjae> as does the remove option
[22:11] <mcrandello> removing it won't actually remove kde
[22:11] <mcrandello> I don't think
[22:11] <mcrandello> unless it also wants to remove kdebase, then lookout
[22:11] <cjae> ok
[22:11] <cjae> thanks
[22:12] <mcrandello> seriously though this cashew is about to make me start hitting things
[22:12] <EagleScreen> you cannot remove dragonplayer becouse Kubuntu-desktop package depends on it
[22:13] <mgroman> !ohmy mcrandello
[22:13] <mgroman> !ohmy | mcrandello
[22:13] <deathoncity> i'm new in linux..i have a new computer  HP and a internal TV card Hauppauge  winTV HVR-1200 model 71xxx hybrid dvb-t no FP and i cannot install his driver in the latest kubuntu
[22:13] <deathoncity> can i have some help please...?.
[22:13] <cjae> EagleScreen: what are you jokin
[22:13] <deathoncity> pleasee
[22:13] <mcrandello> mgroman, ? I didn't think anyone would literally think I was going to get violent over a computer screen lmao
[22:14] <EagleScreen> deathoncity http://www.linuxtv.org/
[22:15] <EagleScreen> cjae no joke, kubuntu-desktop metapackage depends on dragonplayer, then if you uninstall dragonplayer, you break kubuntu installation by uninstalling lot of useful things, its the kubuntu style
[22:15] <EagleScreen> kubuntu-desktop shuld recommend dragonplayer, and not depends on it
[22:15] <EagleScreen> report a bug against kubuntu-desktop if you consider
[22:16] <cjae> EagleScreen: I just uninstalled it, that can't be right
[22:16] <cjae> so what now
[22:16] <mcrandello> it's fine
[22:16] <cjae> EagleScreen: have you tried to uninstall it
[22:16] <mcrandello> how many packages did it remove
[22:16] <EagleScreen> i am trying now..
[22:17] <mcrandello> apt-cache showpkg kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <cjae> mcrandello:
[22:17] <cjae> he following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:17] <cjae>   dragonplayer* kubuntu-desktop*
[22:17] <cjae> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:17] <cjae> After this operation, 1016kB disk space will be freed.
[22:17] <EagleScreen> it uninstalls kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <mcrandello> which doesn't provide any files
[22:18] <mcrandello> it's just there so you can easily install it from say a normal ubuntu installation
[22:18] <EagleScreen> cjae are you using KDE 4.2?
[22:18] <cjae> the one with 8.10
[22:18] <cjae> ibex
[22:19] <mcrandello> it pulls in all the other packages that it lists in that apt-cache command so they're listed as dependencies but removing the desktop package doesn't remove any of them other than the one you specify
[22:19] <EagleScreen> removal of kubuntu-desktop does not makr for removal other packages, that is good, but is not usually
[22:20] <mcrandello> This I'm not sure on but I think that all the foo-desktop packages in *buntu work that way
[22:20] <EagleScreen> but you may have problems with kuubntu updates if you do not have kubuntu-desktop package installed
[22:21] <cjae> anyone else in this channel have an opinion
[22:21] <jazgator> After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed?
[22:22] <cjae> that would be the stupidest thing I have ever
[22:23] <EagleScreen> cjae the problem is that in some installations, all KDE and kubuntu stuff is installed from kubuntu-desktop package installation, then, if later you remove kubuntu-desktop, then all the other packages are aumatically marked for removal, becouse they were installed to satisfice the kubuntu-desktop dependences
[22:23] <mcrandello> what
[22:24] <EagleScreen> but now that is not the case, i dont know what, kubuntu installation scripts must be changed
[22:25] <cjae> sssssssssssoooooooooo
[22:25] <cjae> I am safe or no
[22:26] <raphink> EagleScreen: are you talking about a kubuntu install or update?
[22:26] <mcrandello> you should be safe, if not copy this down somewhere:
[22:26] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:26] <mcrandello> problem solved
[22:27] <cjae> if I did that now would it install dragon player again as dependency?
[22:27] <mcrandello> you betcha
[22:27] <cjae> is there a way to install without dependencies in .deb's
[22:28] <mcrandello> that's the whole point of kubuntu-desktop though
[22:28] <mcrandello> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-kde-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[22:28] <EagleScreen> cjae dont worry, you can live without kubuntu-desktop package
[22:28] <cjae> it won't break updates or upgrades
[22:29] <mcrandello> it's mainly there so you can install say a basic system or if you wanted to switch from gnome
[22:29] <mcrandello> that's all
[22:29] <EagleScreen> objective of kubuntu-desktop package is install a new application by default in kubuntu in future versions, but if you dont want them.. you do not need kubuntu-desktop
[22:31] <cjae> ah I see so if down the road iceape is installed default in righteous rihno and I ididn't have kubuntu-desktop installed it would not install iceape
[22:32] <EagleScreen> yes..
[22:32] <cjae> ok
[22:33] <cjae> why does dragon suck so bad
[22:33] <cjae> opps
[22:33] <cjae> sorry
[22:33] <EagleScreen> if Kubuntu Team decides that kpackagekit must be installed by default in kubuntu, then they upload a new version of kubuntu-desktop that depens on or recomends kpackagekit, and when you update kubuntu-dsktop, kpackagekit is installed
[22:35] <cjae> first it had no sound or picture installed xine plugins, then just no sound after reboot had sound, now when watching avi from optical drive it just reads fro whereever on the disc
[22:35] <jazgator> After installing Ubuntu I ran KleanSweep and found multiple duplicate files (same names, different subdirectories) can the duplicates be safely removed? or is each pack dependent on their own subdirectory file.
[22:36] <cjae> why did they get rid of kaffeine
[22:37] <EagleScreen> becouse kaffeine is a KDE3 application
[22:37] <cjae> of was it totem
[22:37] <cjae> s/of/or
[22:37] <EagleScreen> they are trying to use KDE4 or Qt4 applications
[22:37] <EagleScreen> but you can install kaffeine in kubuntu 8.10
[22:37] <cjae> kaffeine is isn't
[22:37] <cjae> it
[22:38]  * cjae appologizes for bad typing
[22:38] <EagleScreen> 8.10 has other KDE3 apps installed as amarok, k3b, konvrsation..
[22:38] <EagleScreen> kaffeine was the default vodeo player in previous Kubuntu releases
[22:38] <cjae> oh I see
[22:39] <EagleScreen> a KDE4 version of kaffeine is under construction
[22:40] <cjae> who decides this stuff - "well we have good player but lets put a buggy one in the new kde release for giggles"
[22:40] <cjae> can't read iso's and such
[22:41] <QContinueum> you could always go back and use the last LTS
[22:41] <cjae> right
[22:41] <EagleScreen> cjae just install kaffeine if you want
[22:42] <cjae> right
[22:43] <cjae> hey how do I say get a network list for all the irc networks in konversation, like in xchat without having to manually find all of them and add them?
[22:45] <cjae> EagleScreen: since I have plenty of space should I reinstall dragon? cause I might down the road want to install gnome or xfce (or does it matter)
[22:46] <cjae> that way
[22:46] <cjae> I just didn't want to have such a buggy app on my system
[22:48] <EagleScreen> cjae is a good idea to have kubuntu-desktop installed perhaps you have to install dragonplayer, if you do not like it, do not use it, it is simple
[22:48] <cjae> right but doesn't having buggy apps create security problems
[22:49] <EagleScreen> do not be paranoic, dragonplayer won't destoy your system lol
[22:49] <cjae> ok
[22:50] <cjae> EagleScreen: did you see my other question?
[22:51] <EagleScreen> yes, but i have no idea
[22:52] <cjae> can I just maybe get the network list from xchat like in its install files and copy it to konversation
[22:55] <cjae> when I install dragon player it does not install kubuntu-desltop
[22:57] <cjae> wait it does install dragon player when I install desktop though ...sigh
[22:57] <cjae> thanks for the help
[23:03] <jimtucker> does anyone know if Ubuntu has C compiling capabilities?  like gcc
[23:09] <trappist> jimtucker: of course!  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:10] <Progz> Is there a special name in the "Start" Menu for Azureus or Vuze because after installation it's not there at all
[23:10] <LinuxHack3r> I figured it'd be a great idea to delete everything out of my menu that I don't need. How can I get into the kcontrol equivalent in kde4 from terminal?
[23:11] <marcel> how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ?
[23:11] <marcel> now i have 20GB . It's enough ?
[23:12] <LinuxHack3r> KDE settings?
[23:12] <LinuxHack3r> How to get there?
[23:12] <noaXess> is it better to wait for 4.2 or os kde 4.2 rc1 stable now?
[23:18] <myselftion> hola
[23:18] <myselftion> hay alguien?
[23:18] <myselftion> dios hace años que no entro en irc, ni siquiera recuerdo comandos basicos (como el de cambiar el nick :S)
[23:19] <Progz> ./nick ;p
[23:19] <myselftion> #linares
[23:19] <myselftion> jaja
[23:19] <myselftion> thanks!
[23:19] <myselftion> ups sorry por lo del canal
[23:19] <myselftion> no lo hice a drede
[23:20] <myselftion> alguien que este familiarizado con kubuntu?
[23:21] <Jado> hi, i need some help : if i choose the 640x480 resolution (xrandr --size 640x480 or nvidia-settings), the desktop does not appear entirely on my screen and i can't see the bottom part of it. With other resolutoins, such as 800x600 or 1280x800, i can see all the desktop and not only a part
[23:22] <myselftion> that's cause you've to change the resolution
[23:22] <myselftion> jado !
[23:22] <Jado> myselftion ?
[23:23] <myselftion> never mind
[23:23] <myselftion> bye!
[23:23] <Jado> bye
[23:24] <Brasil> hi guys
[23:25] <marcel> how much memory i need on the disk for full instalation of kubutu (including C, C++ sources) ?
[23:25] <Brasil> #ubuntu
[23:26] <marcel> i use kubuntu
[23:27] <Brasil> guys
[23:27] <Brasil> im using kurumin ng and im from brasil but i dont know
[23:28] <Brasil> any chanel from brasil
[23:29] <Skii> hey ppl's
[23:30] <Skii> I was woundering something and maybe someone can help me out with my problem that i am haveing so here it gose
[23:30] <Skii> i would like to put avi to mpeg in linux but i don't know how to, can someone help me out?
[23:35] <Stathis`> hey all
[23:39] <Axis-> $clan
[23:44] <wesley_> Skii there are converters for it, ffmpeg can handle it
[23:45] <wesley_> Don´t know precise which on, avidemux can you use
[23:45] <cjae> Hi I am using kde 4.x and nvidia twinview can I add panels to the tv out of is just for full screen movies and such as I have a 1080p plasma and like to sit on couch and surf
[23:46] <cjae> or must I use separate X server screens?
[23:46] <wesley_> You can put most times on your pc to your tv
[23:48] <cjae> someone directed me here from #ubuntu saying that panels on your tv is possible with twinview but I can't for the life of me figure it out
[23:48] <cjae> I can see the windows on the tv that I drag there