[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> FX series wasn't exactly happy
[12:14] <wolferine> bobbyd, man rm
[12:14] <wolferine> then read it
[12:14] <franzmaximilian> bobstro: that's what i suspected....  not worth the effort
[12:14] <wolferine> so you understand something about linux, other than how to connect to irc :)
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> How do you actually enable Beryl? I got the packages, but I can't find where to actually turn it on
[12:14] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, Gnome?
[12:14] <Dragnslcr> KDE
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, found my neil young cds.  time to rip :D
[12:15] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, you can start the beryl-manager on boot
[12:15] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- damn you, I can't find the CD's I need to re-rip
[12:15] <franzmaximilian> yeti: any experience with an AMD kernel on an old Duron machine?  Any noticeable improvement?
[12:15] <wolferine> then you will find an icon near your clock...
[12:15] <bobstro> franzmaximilian: yeah, i'm happy it does KDE well enough, but the extra eyecandy is pushing it. esp. with 256MB ram.
[12:15] <fico> proba
[12:15] <bobleny> wolferine: How do I clean "/temp"?
[12:15] <wolferine> or just start the beryl-manager from cli
[12:15] <wolferine> bobleny, in man rm
[12:15] <wolferine> read it
[12:15] <wolferine> learn
[12:15] <wolferine> self-educate
[12:16] <bobstro> franzmaximilian: if it's a dog with kde or gnome, try xubuntu perhaps
[12:16] <bobstro> bobleny: /temp or /tmp?
[12:16] <wolferine> bobstro, he really needs to learn to do stuff on his own
[12:16] <franzmaximilian> bobstro: irt runs decently with kde
[12:16] <wolferine> to be honest
[12:16] <Phton> whats extra in Kubuntu DVD?
[12:16] <bobstro> wolferine: i agree, but the difference might be significant!
[12:17] <bobleny> wolferine: "rm" short for remove. rm [directory]  [file]
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> that's one thing that's always bothered me.  no, linux isn't just for smart people (as has been suggested), but it is for those that are willing to do a little reading and learn some things
[12:17] <Dragnslcr> wolferine- is ~/.kde/Autostart good enough, or do I actually have to put it in init.d?
[12:17] <wolferine> bobleny, man rm
[12:17] <bobleny> wolferine: What more do I need to know about rm?
[12:17] <wolferine> Dragnslcr, im not sure
[12:17] <bobstro> wolferine: i'm just wondering why it's not clearing at boot if /tmp?
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: you're fine with autostart
[12:17] <wolferine> bobstro, its not setup that way
[12:17] <Phton> whats extra in Kubuntu DVD?
[12:17] <bobstro> what else do you need to know about a loaded gun? :)
[12:18] <wolferine> Phton, google it
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> extra packages that wouldn't fit on the cd
[12:18] <Daisuke_Ido> smoke break!
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- can I just symlink to the executable?
[12:19] <oofus> Hi all. Can anybody tell me how to enable Compiz or Beryl in Kubuntu 7.04. Or at least point me to info on how to do it. Thanks.
[12:19] <Phton> The DVD has the whole main repository and has ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu
[12:19] <Eruantalon> !beryl
[12:20] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:20] <danish> how can i play wmv files on kubuntu
[12:21] <oofus> thank you
[12:21] <yeti> !wmv
[12:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <david__> Okay thanks everybody.  I was able to set the thing to log in to KDE.
[12:21] <Phton> !rm
[12:21] <yeti> danish: please read the first link that ubotu provided
[12:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:22] <Phton> !ram
[12:22] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[12:22] <david__> Is there a way I can switch the login screen to G instead of K tho?
[12:22] <Phton> !real media
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <cps1966> !rm
[12:23] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:24] <cps1966> !codecs
[12:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:24] <Toyd> !ati
[12:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <Toyd> !beryl
[12:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:24] <Toyd> !aiglx
[12:24] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[12:24] <Toyd> !beryl wiki
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl wiki - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Toyd> !botabuse
[12:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:25] <Toyd> :O
[12:25] <Toyd> thanks ubotu
[12:25] <Toyd> !richard stallman
[12:25] <Toyd> richard stallman made it all possible
[12:25] <Toyd> uboto
[12:26] <Toyd> ubotu
[12:26] <Toyd> you should know about him
[12:26] <Toyd> its disrespectfull not to know
[12:26] <Toyd> about him
[12:27] <danish> ok i read the guid on wiki beryl buts its for ubuntu and settings are on gnome can any body tell me of kubuntu beryl
[12:27] <david__> Ubotu, you're the best!
[12:27] <graft> kubuntu beryl is an exciting character
[12:27] <david__> I want to make sweet sweet love to you, Ubotu!
[12:27] <graft> danish: just run beryl-manager when you start up... works for me
[12:27] <Toyd> danish,  i have the same problem
[12:28] <ian__> is beryl any good?
[12:28] <Toyd> graft,  that was like a windows answer to a linux problem :P
[12:29] <graft> Toyd: uh... no, that was a linux answer
[12:29] <Toyd> thats like saying i clicked next next and it worked for me
[12:30] <Toyd> i mean it might work for you and you alone
[12:31] <graft> Toyd: that's the only way i know of to do it
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: the proper anwser is actually to put beryl-manager in the autostart, it's not a windows answer
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> Toyd- from what I've been told, you can just link to /usr/bin/beryl-manager in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i rest my case
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> I haven't tried it yet though
[12:31] <graft> i stand vindicated
[12:31] <Toyd> why isnt this documented???!?!?
[12:31] <graft> it's all over the net, hermano
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> I will admit, it'd be nice if the settings program had a checkbox to do it for you
[12:32] <graft> beryl isn't integrated into kde yet
[12:32] <Toyd> no because i have the same problem as danish  the wiki are all for gnome and not kde
[12:32] <graft> and probably won't be
[12:32] <graft> so it's hackish by nature
[12:32] <Toyd> its confusing
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> It's the simple things like that that get annoying
[12:32] <graft> yeh... kubuntu is like the bastard child of ubuntu
[12:32] <graft> you get the leftover rotten vegetables
[12:32] <Toyd> lol
[12:32] <graft> hand-me-down clothes, etc.
[12:33] <Dragnslcr> My current biggest annoyance is having to set every window that pops up to remember size and position
[12:33] <Toyd> but kde is so much better than gnome
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: that's purely a matter of opinion
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> though i happen to agree
[12:33] <graft> obviously we all think that, since we're here in #kubuntu
[12:34] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido,  gnome doesnt have amarok for example the best music player in the world
[12:34] <graft> but kde has serious problems that gnome does not... like the fact that they don't know a damn thing about interface design
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> I'm in #ubuntu too...
[12:34] <shydog> need some help with scanner
[12:34] <graft> yeah, but you're running KDE, ain't ya, Dragnslcr ?
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> Well yeah
[12:34] <graft> you're only in #ubuntu cuz kubuntu is the bastard child and the support here is not as good
[12:34] <Dragnslcr> I haven't looked at Gnome in years
[12:34] <Toyd> lol graft
[12:35] <graft> at least that's why i usually end up in #ubuntu
[12:35] <Toyd> hmz well if nalioth is here
[12:35] <Toyd> i dont have to go to ubuntu
[12:35] <Toyd> some knowledgeable people here
[12:35] <graft> yeah, i'm not maligning this channel really, there are some knowledgable people here
[12:36] <graft> but ubuntu is primarily a gnome project
[12:36] <graft> and that's what's pushed heavily
[12:36] <shydog> can anybody help me with installing my scanner
[12:36] <graft> so naturally most of the users and most of the support is directed there
[12:36] <Toyd> well thats should be the case gnome is just the gui
[12:36] <graft> shydog: did you do that xsane dealy?
[12:37] <danish> toyd: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[12:37] <Toyd> i tried to set up beryl on ubuntu and had plenty of help still wouldnt work
[12:37] <LjL> !automatix
[12:37] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:37] <Toyd> lol
[12:37] <danish> toyd: for some reason on ubuntu it flickers and exits back to gnome
[12:37] <_Neil> sometimes, rhythmbox just disappears. Anyone know why this could be, or how to diagnose the problem?
[12:37] <theamazingpotato> hello
[12:38] <stephane> bonsoir  tous !
[12:38] <Toyd> danish i tried a preconfigured ubuntu+beryl its called uberyl and that worked for me
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !fr | stephane
[12:38] <ubotu> stephane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:38] <shydog> downloaded driver and is recognized by usb , but when try and scan something, it will not let me
[12:38] <danish> toyd: i don't like ubuntu my favorite apps are in kde
[12:38] <Toyd> yeah
[12:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !worksforme
[12:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:38] <Toyd> i think it uses kubuntu danish
[12:38] <Toyd> it has kde
[12:39] <danish> toyd whree did u get it from
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> can someone help me
[12:39] <graft> shydog: scanning with what?
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> im having problem with the sound
[12:39] <shydog> HP4370
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> its so low
[12:39] <graft> shydog: what software, i mean?
[12:39] <Dragnslcr> theamazingpotato- check the mixer settings in KMix and/or alsamixer
[12:39] <shydog> sane sight says driver for 3900 will work
[12:39] <theamazingpotato> ill try that
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> Yay! I crashed Amarok!
[12:40] <shydog> openoffice
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i've found it hard to crash amarok lately
[12:40] <graft> shydog: try kooka
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> used to be, if i looked at it wrong, kablooie!
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> I tried adding .mp3 files to a playlist
[12:40] <shydog> ok
[12:41] <graft> hm i can almost always get it to crash by using the 'undo' function
[12:41] <theamazingpotato> nope
[12:41] <theamazingpotato> wont help
[12:41] <shydog> be back if doesn't work, thanks for your help
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, it was usually a crash related to the scope of my collection :\
[12:41] <Daisuke_Ido> probably work faster if i used mysql as the backend rather than sqlite
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, think I just had to restart it after installing libxine-ffmpeg
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> going to need a bigger hard drive for music :\
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> Is there a way to make all windows use detailed view?
[12:43] <Dragnslcr> KDE seems to not do global window settings very well
[12:44] <jordo23_> I have a link to a mounted HD on my desktop. When I open it with Konq, it won't give me the option to create folders and stuff.....it says the drive is owned by me too......any ideas?
[12:44] <Skyblast> Dragnslcr: set it to the view mode you want then go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management"
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> Skyblast- yeah, I just thought of that
[12:45] <Toyd> so is there any bsd software i can use on linux???
[12:45] <dug> is there a way to keep the open applications in the taskbar dependant on which desktop your viewing?
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> Is there a decent GUI tool for mounting smb shares?
[12:45] <theamazingpotato> my card is HDA Intel
[12:45] <Toyd> dug???
[12:45] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Umm... why do you need one?
[12:45] <Toyd> elaborate
[12:45] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: All it takes it one line.
[12:46] <theamazingpotato> and the chip is  Realtek ALC861
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- I'm attempting a "newbie" experience with Kubuntu. That way I can help friends with it
[12:46] <dug> what im getting at is the running applications that switch between under this bar
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> Trying to use the shell as little as possible
[12:47] <danish> what simple do guys recommend for a begginner gnu c99 learner
[12:47] <dug> is there a way to make it so that only whats on the desktop im using contains these instead of all desktops displaying all programs?
[12:47] <Skyblast> dug: Click on the leftpart of the taskbar where it starts showing your applications and click Configure Taskbar. Uncheck "Show windows from all Desktops"
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: the one line is in konqueror
[12:47] <Toyd> Dragnslcr, lets start a new distro
[12:47] <danish> what simple *IDE
[12:47] <dug> ah thanks sky
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> smb:/<share>
[12:47] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido,  you want in aswell
[12:47] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, i like the cli
[12:47] <Toyd> compilerwriter,  you want to joij
[12:47] <Toyd> join*
[12:47] <Toyd> danish, Skyblast
[12:47] <dug> your a life saver
[12:47] <Toyd> lets start a new distro
[12:47] <Toyd> :P
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- yeah, but that requires a password every time
[12:48] <Toyd> eMaX, you want in
[12:48] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: K Menu > System Settings > Advanced > Disk & Filesystems
[12:48] <Skyblast> Why? I love my Kubuntu. :)
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: no it doesn't :)  sudo -s
[12:48] <compilerwriter> toyd join what?
[12:48] <Toyd> my new distro
[12:48] <comodo> can anyone tell me how to extract the files out of an iso
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Daisuke_Ido- heh, meant the password to the share
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:48] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[12:48] <danish> toyd, skyblast lol funny name but i'll look it up
[12:48] <compilerwriter> What sort of distro are you working on?
[12:48] <Ashex> what's the command to add a user to a group?
[12:49] <Toyd> my new system will be able to run osx apps windows apps do directx10 games and linux
[12:49] <Toyd> it will also play xbox360 and ps3 games
[12:49] <Skyblast> Will it be my wife as well? :P
[12:49] <Toyd> and of course you can attach a wii mote and play wii games
[12:49] <Toyd> :P
[12:50] <doug_> so... Konversation has coloured nicks?
[12:50] <Skyblast> I'd also like an Emergency Medical Holigram, like the one on Voyager hehe
[12:50] <theamazingpotato> ya but theres a program that makes the wiimote work with pc
[12:50] <Toyd> i arent supposed to tell you guys this but
[12:50] <Toyd> but i am using a special app
[12:50] <Toyd> to talk to people in the past i am from the future
[12:50] <doug_> SWEET JESUS
[12:50] <doug_> that would be worth millions
[12:51] <Skyblast> Are alien chicks hawt in the future?
[12:51] <Toyd> lol
[12:51] <doug_> it must be true... because no one lies on the internet
[12:51] <doug_> LOL
[12:51] <Toyd> lol
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> comodo: Use the mount command with the loop option
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> !mountiso
[12:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:52] <Skyblast> hmm, while I'm here, does anyone know why K Torrent is so very bad at staying connected to peers?
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> comodo: then just look in the directory created, and cp to whereever you want them after that.
[12:52] <Skyblast> It downloads and uploads in spurts
[12:53] <Skyblast> And yes, I put my forwarded port in
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Ashex: sudo adduser theusername thegroupname
[12:54] <Toyd> what would you do if you only had 3 years left to live?
[12:54] <intelikey> well after testing (actually revisiting) mdk's urpmi i can see why i never had any rtubble with it   unlike apt it simply refuses to remove anything marked as needed.
[12:54] <intelikey> removing package basesystem-10.0-0.2mdk.i586 will break your system
[12:54] <intelikey> Nothing to remove
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Toyd: I'd probably ask silly questions in #kubuntu-offtopic instead of disturbing help channels, if you get my drift ;)
[12:55] <Alarm> what settings should i change so that the menus wont look like buttons as here: http://www.geocities.com/stefschreck/snapshot1.png
[12:55] <Alarm> i changed some styles and window decorations but somehow i cant find. and its the same in every application
[12:55] <red22> tough question
[12:56] <intelikey> toyd that's possably the most profound question that has been asked in here to date.
[12:56] <compilerwriter> intelikey you are here.
[12:56] <Toyd> lol
[12:56] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- using the disk manager to mount smb shares seems to be rather broken
[12:56] <compilerwriter> intelikey do you have any clue what in hell is going on with the Monitor & Display Module?
[12:57] <intelikey> compilerwriter no.    i really not ~
[12:57] <danish> toyd automatix has some cool stuff
[12:57] <red22> makes me feel ashamed i'm only here to ask about a silly computer program hehe
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- entering all the details and clicking OK seems to do nothing, and trying to scan for shares drops me out of admin mode
[12:57] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Yeah it's shit, although it takes 20 seconds to add something to the /etc/fstab file.
[12:57] <Toyd> tonyyarusso, i thought we decided that when people have real issue on kubuntu they end up in #ubuntu
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> Hm, maybe I just have to wait longer
[12:57] <intelikey> compilerwriter actually no.    all joking aside.   i have never seen edgy to feisty
[12:57] <GrahamA> Dragnslcr: Or, try pressing "mount" :)
[12:57] <intelikey> s/to/or/
[12:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: since when is it up to you to decide things like that?
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> GrahamA- the only buttons on the dialog are OK and Cancel
[12:58] <red22> my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?
[12:58] <Toyd> its open source no one is the boss we share leadership in here
[12:59] <compilerwriter> intelikey I get the message that an error occured during an upgrade orphaning a module or there are third party modules lying about.  How would I look for those?
[12:59] <Toyd> we all have the freedom to change
[12:59] <Toyd> things
[12:59] <Toyd> thats what linux is all about
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> this is irc
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> Well, more about sharing source than leadership and decision making.  A lot of that too, but it's not a free for all.
[01:00] <intelikey> compilerwriter deborphan maybe ?     or debfoster    idk.
[01:00] <intelikey> compilerwriter the package manager might have a trick up it's sleeve   did you look there ?
[01:00] <Toyd> linus torvalds is a relative of mine
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> good for you
[01:01] <Skyblast> Maybe we should add an anti-annoying clause to the GPL :P
[01:01] <compilerwriter> The package manager intelikey?  Now I am lost
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Skyblast: RMS would have to renounce the GPL if that happened
[01:01] <compilerwriter> intelikey deborphan did nothing
[01:01] <compilerwriter> neither did debfoster
[01:02] <Toyd> Daisuke_Ido, rms is my pal
[01:02] <intelikey> toyd    i offically abdocate.   you may now rule supreeme as the  offtopic/monolog  king.
[01:02] <Toyd> me and rms went to India once and just danced and watched bollywood movies
[01:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Toyd: don't care, don't care, don't care.
[01:02] <intelikey> compilerwriter that only leaves the package manager
[01:02] <jaevel> anyone know if there is a list of firmware for dvd roms that dont work with ubuntu????
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to wax random, do it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:03] <jaevel> mostly the NEC type?
[01:03] <theamazingpotato> i checked alsamixer
[01:03] <compilerwriter> intelikey dpkg
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a help channel, and you're no help.
[01:03] <intelikey> compilerwriter synaptic  or  adept
[01:03] <intelikey> compilerwriter possabley aptatude
[01:03] <Toyd> http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armystoryim9.jpg
[01:04] <compilerwriter> Well somehow adept got locked up on me and I had to do the thing to unlock it.
[01:04] <red22> my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?
[01:04] <intelikey> oooh yuch   "the thing" to unlock it....
[01:06] <compilerwriter> intelikey I had to go to help site and follow that procedure.  I have no clue exactly what I did, but that seemed to fix the adept thing.  I answered yes to all the new stuff figuring it had somehow partially crapped out in the feisty upgrade.
[01:06] <Toyd> ubotu spammed me: ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:07] <intelikey> random yes's in the processes......
[01:07] <intelikey> i think this was a bad idea ?
[01:07] <intelikey> removing module-init-tools-3.0-1mdk.i586
[01:07] <intelikey> modprobe may be needed....
[01:07] <compilerwriter> ok intelikey I have synaptic fired up.  Now what?
[01:08] <intelikey> check for broken packages
[01:08] <compilerwriter> How does one do that intelikey?  I have always used adept.
[01:10] <intelikey> compilerwriter i'm not even in a *ubuntu system right now.   much less in a gui.    see if you can't find it in the "synaptic menus"
[01:11] <jaevel> anyone know why my system would hang during boot at "Checking File System"?
[01:11] <jaevel> after upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[01:11] <compilerwriter> I found a status bar that says none of my packages is broken.
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> jaevel: let it run, it's probably running fsck
[01:12] <jaevel> been going for 2 days now
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> oookay
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> then again, maybe not
[01:12] <intelikey> compilerwriter hmmm   ok.   view the installed packages and reinstall the ones related to kcontrol
[01:13] <compilerwriter> uninstall them and then reinstall intelikey?
[01:13] <tmbg> how big is your disk?  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:14] <jaevel> to top it all, ubuntu doesnt like my dvd rom...
[01:15] <jaevel> and will not reload....
[01:15] <intelikey> well time to go.
[01:16] <intelikey> compilerwriter i'll be back in a few.  if you are still having trubble i'll "TRY" to help.   but i hope you get it all streight before i get back.
[01:16] <delphine> pls... why phpmyadmin is installed but no files in /var/www ?
[01:17] <graft> delphine: probably it sets it up somewhere else and just uses a <Directory> line in your apache config
[01:19] <delphine> graft: thanks, now open httpd.conf
[01:20] <theamazingpotato> the sound is still low
[01:20] <delphine> why /etc/apache2/httpd.conf have only 1 line?
[01:21] <delphine> i know apache 1.x, where is config file here? :(
[01:23] <csingley> bobstro: thanks for the partimage ref; i'll look into it (sorry got ambushed there)
[01:26] <Alarm> i did something with the Kmenu , and now the "system settings" shortcut , that opens a window, is like a folder with subdirectories , like the category "internet" . with the only difference it includes the things that also the system settings includes, look and feel, administration , services and so on. how could i restore that ? or if someone could tell me what is in the properties of the "System settings" in the kmenu written , to fix it
[01:30] <theamazingpotato> sounds still not working right
[01:31] <homero> hola
[01:31] <theamazingpotato> its so low
[01:31] <homero> se puede chatear en espaol?
[01:32] <Skyblast> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:33] <surgy> hi
[01:33] <surgy> i need help extracting an iso image from a cd
[01:34] <Ertain> Does anyone do hibernate in Feisty?  Every time I try to go into hibernation it says I need the "resume=" option with my kernel.
[01:34] <Ertain> !hibernate
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <nuu> !hybernate
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hybernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <ardchoille> How do I get my web browser to parse php files instead of trying to download them? I have installed apache2 and php5
[01:43] <drewcipher> archoille:  what web browser?
[01:43] <Trubadurix> hi
[01:43] <ardchoille> drewcipher: Firefox
[01:44] <ardchoille> Well, konqueror won't open php files either.
[01:45] <ardchoille> Both will open index.html but neither will open index.php
[01:46] <Trubadurix> i install kubuntu, i put my firmware files in, i reboot and: Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon  [faild]     and then   Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd               and it dont come longer it just stand there  ??? why?
[01:48] <drewcipher> archoille:  no magic bullet.  I had that problem on my FreeBSD box and trying to find the solution in my notes (which may not help I realize).  It seems hit or miss for people.
[01:48] <elvis> I try upgrading to edgy from dapper using gksu "update-manager -c"
[01:48] <elvis> and i get errors about failing to fetch some files
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> ardchoille- do you have the appropiate AddType line in your httpd.conf file?
[01:48] <elvis> can anyone help me out
[01:48] <eljefe_> has anyone had problems burning DVD+R in a fresh K7.04 install?
[01:49] <eljefe_> i cannot burn neither VideoDVDs in k3b, nor make ISO images in k9copy.
[01:49] <drewcipher> archoille:  I doubt it is this easy but gotta throw it out there:    SHIFT-RELOAD
[01:50] <ardchoille> Dragnslcr: I have installed apache2 and php with the exact same steps on Ubuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper and httpd.conf has always been empty.
[01:50] <eljefe_> elvis whats up?
[01:50] <ardchoille> drewcipher: What is SHIFT-RELOAD?
[01:50] <eljefe_> [shirf]  is a key
[01:50] <ardchoille> /ignore eljefe_
[01:50] <ardchoille> :P
[01:50] <eljefe_> [reload]  is a button on the browser.  hold [shift]  and click [reload]
[01:50] <elvis> I use gksu "update-manager -c"  to try and upgrade, but i get fail to fetch 3 files during upgrade
[01:51] <elvis> how do i make it fetch these files
[01:51] <eljefe_> ardchoille: whats that for?
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <ardchoille> drewcipher: What does SHIFT-RELOAD do?
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <elvis> Failed to fetch http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/dists/dapper/aiglx/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[01:51] <drewcipher> it reloads the page when cached locally.
[01:52] <eljefe_> thats maybe OK... First,did you upgrade happen, Elvis?
[01:52] <ardchoille> drewcipher: Ah, ok. Well, I don't allow firefox to save cache after it exits.
[01:52] <elvis> no once that pops up it stops
[01:52] <elvis> it says error during update and has a close button
[01:53] <drewcipher> ardchoille:  yeah, figured that would have been too easy.  and closing Firefox would do it too.  back to the books.
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Hrm, this can't be good... Whenever I start a KDE application, I get a dialog that says, in not so few words, that ~/.kde/share/config/<app>rc is not writable, as well as ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[01:53] <eljefe_> elvis: k.  Two things with this.  Your upgrade needs to happen ONLY from the Ubuntu repositories, so those fetchings of bluntkind and berly repositories (the errors above) are not supposed to be used.
[01:53] <Kr4t05> Should I re-mount /?
[01:54] <eljefe_> elvis: BUT because you have included these things in your current installation, it is almost certain that the upgrade will fail.  In my opinion.
[01:54] <eljefe_> elvis: i'd say don't do it.
[01:54] <Reva> Hello. Can anyone help me configure a Linksys PCI Wireless Network card? I can't get it to work.
[01:54] <eljefe_> install fresh..  you have a seperate /home partiton or a way to back up, right?
[01:55] <eljefe_> download a CD from bittorrent (look for KTorrent)
[01:55] <elvis> i think i was just using them to try installing beryl
[01:55] <eljefe_> (in your KMenu)
[01:55] <elvis> which didnt work
[01:55] <eljefe_> elvis: still... i wouldn't
[01:55] <eljefe_> elvis: i had very few outside packages in and myne did Not Work.
[01:56] <elvis> Thanks for the warning eljefe
[01:56] <eljefe_> BUT... try it; comment out those repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list and try the update.  If it fails, take the outher path ;)
[01:56] <elvis> ok im going to do it
[01:56] <eljefe_> you have a /home partition?
[01:57] <elvis> im not sure
[01:58] <eljefe> elvis: have you been to the command line?  i want one command from you there.
[01:58] <eljefe> konsole: type 'df' (no quotes) and let me know what it says
[01:59] <elvis> if your looking for a /home after i type df.... none there
[01:59] <eljefe> humm.
[01:59] <BloodyTux> hello
[01:59] <jessai> hi
[02:00] <eljefe> you don't want to lose your data, do you?  make a backup of everything... and if you DO have to reinstall, then you'll lose EVERYTHING but you have the chane to make a seperate partition for a /home...
[02:00] <jessai> i need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?
[02:00] <smoalne> hello
[02:00] <eljefe> so maybe _don't_ go for it unless you're sure that you wanna deal with.. .a whole new OS.  Me, I love it.  Not everyone.
[02:01] <jessai>  i need help with kmail and hotmail, who can help me?
[02:01] <elvis> Clean slates are always nice in my opinion
[02:01] <eljefe> backup your data, thats all.
[02:01] <LjL> !helpme
[02:01] <Skyblast> Seperate /home is a life saver
[02:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:01] <eljefe> cool.
[02:01] <BloodyTux> eljefe what's going on, maybe i can put in some insight
[02:01] <eljefe> elvis: listen to Skyblast :)
[02:01] <eljefe> Hey Bloody, thanks!
[02:01] <Ashex> jessai, what do you need help with exactly?
[02:01] <elvis> ok
[02:02] <Skyblast> Me Feisty upgrade bombed horrible, I just downloaded the CD ISO, reinstalled, pointed my mount points back, and voila! Instant Feisty!
[02:02] <elvis> I just now am able to understand what you guys are talking about
[02:02] <jessai> in host what i supouse to put to check hotmail?
[02:02] <eljefe> Well I have a pretty fresh install of 7.04 with the Medibuntu parts installed also.  My k9copy cannot make a DVD-iso (and crashes if I play too much in the Settings)
[02:02] <elvis> Ill definately do it next time i need to
[02:02] <Toyd> Microsoft is claiming that Linux has code in it that belong to Microsoft... we ask them to prove this, we ask them to SHOW US THE CODE!!
[02:02] <Toyd> www.showusthecode.com
[02:02] <elvis> but for right now im fine with even losing all my files
[02:03] <Black_Mask> eljefe you're talking about feisty?
[02:03] <Ace2016> hi all
[02:03] <Ace2016> is it ok to remove /home/ace/Desktop
[02:03] <Ace2016> its messing up my home dir
[02:03] <eljefe> BloodyTux: and now I went to burn a DVD+R with k3b and _it_ claims not to have all the necessary files...
[02:03] <BloodyTux> hmmmm
[02:03] <eljefe> Black_Mask: Yes, Feisty.
[02:03] <eljefe> Kubuntu
[02:03] <eljefe> BloodyTux: I don't know if they're both the cdrecord/wob?? package, or seperate issues?
[02:04] <epimeth> ahoy again...
[02:04] <Black_Mask> Toyd: when are they gonna sue the GNU/Linux users community?
[02:04] <ubuntu_> so why doesn't konqueror work in feisty
[02:04] <epimeth> hows everybody doing?
[02:04] <eljefe> Ace2016: you can, yes.  But anything that you (or, user 'ace')see on the desktop is gone.
[02:04] <Toyd> lol
[02:04] <eljefe> epimeth: :)
[02:05] <eljefe> Ace2016: its just another folder which is always open
[02:05] <eljefe> on the desktop
[02:05] <BloodyTux> i would try reinstalling k3b and if the doesn't work try using a different buring software, try sourceforge or search google for 'linux dvd burning'
[02:06] <eljefe> BloodyTux: that bl0ws! I heart k3b!
[02:06] <BloodyTux> the thing is is if it's DVD+R it could be that the burner you have is a) not compatible with DVD, b) not working right, or c) k3b doesn't have the exact file it needs to write to a dvd+r
[02:06] <Ashex> jessai, check hotmails website for the settings
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: heres a better idea maybe... how do I _downgrade_ k3b away from Medibuntu package?
[02:07] <BloodyTux> that might work
[02:07] <Ashex> specify the version you want
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: ah its worked before, its the software...
[02:07] <Ashex> like sudo apt-get install k3b=1.003
[02:07] <Ashex> I think
[02:07] <eljefe> BloodyTux: oh i was hoping that you'd know
[02:07] <Ashex> lemme double check that
[02:07] <BloodyTux> brb
[02:07] <eljefe> Ashex: thanks... lemme know dawg lemme know!
[02:08] <eljefe> youse ever use Yakuake?  its fantastic.
[02:08] <Black_Mask> Toyd Microsoft isn't gonna show you or anyone the violation in code. They are gonna set up a closed-door meeting with major GNU/Linux distribution companies such as Redhat and Canonical, show them the proof and tell them 'look this is how tommorrow I'm gonna slap you with a billion dollar lawsuit in which you must fail because this time we are prepared. there is no way you are gonna win and prove that GNU/Linux community hasn't
[02:08] <Black_Mask> violated the software patents. now you have two options: either stay away from us, remain enemies and get defeated in the lawsuit or befriend us and create a closed-source Windows Linux 2008 for us and here is 10 million dollars in advance'
[02:09] <eljefe> Black_Mask: the blasphemy!
[02:09] <Ashex> eljefe, that's correct, you should create a preferences file in apt (/etc/apt/preferences) too to make sure it works
[02:09] <Toyd> yeah Black5un
[02:09] <Toyd> Black_Mask,
[02:09] <Ashex> let me see if I can find more info on the preferences file
[02:10] <graft> !offtopic
[02:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:10] <eljefe> do i have to?
[02:10] <graft> what, there's a kubuntu-offtopic?
[02:10] <Toyd> graft actually it is ontopic
[02:10] <Toyd> !ontopic
[02:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the Kubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:10] <epimeth> Black_Mask: or not... SCO tried that and IBM b*tchslapped them so hard their shareholder's grandchildren felt it
[02:10] <graft> Toyd: bullshooting about microsoft/SCO is not really ontopic, eh
[02:11] <Toyd> graft you dont understand the seriousness of the situation
[02:11] <Black_Mask> lol bullshoot
[02:11] <Toyd> nalioth,
[02:11] <Toyd> tell graft its serious please
[02:12] <Toyd> nalioth,  where have you been
[02:12] <theamazingpotato> bye
[02:12] <nalioth> Toyd: i've been here since a long time ago (barring some restarts)
[02:12] <Toyd> ok
[02:13] <graft> Toyd: what situation?
[02:13] <ubuntu_> I  am running the live feisty cd and finally got the wireless working.  so i open konqueror and try to goto kubuntu forms  but it won't connect, yet here i am chatting. whats up with that
[02:13] <Ashex> eljefe, http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man5/apt_preferences.5.html
[02:13] <Ashex> That's info on setting up a preferences file
[02:14] <Toyd> graft scroll up and read what blackmask posted
[02:14] <Ashex> it's not as complicated as it sounds though
[02:14] <epimeth> soooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)
[02:14] <epimeth> however, the sound isn't working
[02:14] <epimeth> its a realtek card... not sure on the specifics
[02:14] <graft> Toyd: yeah, that's just cloud talk, man... that's not a desperate situation
[02:14] <eljefe> Ashex: yes?  (ps what version of k3b do i want? that last one didn't work and Adept didn't tell me of others avail even tough I stopped the Medibuntu repo?)
[02:14] <Ashex> eljefe, for an example of one, look at the section on downgrading in this wiki: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL#Adding_the_Beryl_Project_repositories
[02:14] <Ashex> hmm
[02:14] <eljefe> wonderful, thank you
[02:15] <eljefe> Ashex: I have to go, my friends chilling here and bored with me :)
[02:15] <eljefe> Ashex: thank you, I'll follow up on it!
[02:16] <Ashex> eljefe, no problem :)
[02:17] <ubuntu_> no one else having trouble with konquero
[02:17] <dwidmann> eljefe: what kind of trouble?
[02:17] <epimeth> ubuntu_: whats the problem?
[02:19] <_Neil> http://librarian.launchpad.net/7408582/gdb-rhythmbox.txt rhythmbox segfaults with this.. any ideas anyone?
[02:19] <ubuntu_> i installed feisty on a laptop and took forever to get the wireless working.  when i did konqueror would not make conection to browse but swift fox could.   now i am running live cd and same thing konqueror won't browse but the chat works.
[02:20] <eljefe> Ashex: and dwidmann: ok well.. now it IS burning a regular (old) ISO file onto the DVD... so they must be seperate issues (burning VidioDVD files vs 'burning' an ISO within K9copy)  Thnaks again!!
[02:20] <Ashex> ah, that may be seperate issues
[02:20] <Ashex> not a problem
[02:20] <Ashex> I'm in here a lot so just send me a message if anything comes up :)
[02:21] <K`zan> Anyone else get "Mount point 0 does not exist" upon boot?  Putzed with fstab and the message is useless for figuring out where the problem is :-(.  Any thoughts appreciated.
[02:21] <K`zan> Google was no help either :-(.
[02:24] <Ashex> K`zan, I'm about to leave
[02:24] <Ashex> but, check the uuid in fstab and menu.lst
[02:24] <stanley> hey guys
[02:24] <stanley> i am having an adept problem
[02:24] <Ashex> make sure all the mount points (/dev/foo) are real too
[02:24] <ubuntu_> i get 'An error occurred while loading http://kubuntuforums.net: " when using konq
[02:24] <epimeth> ubuntu_: that is odd... is it for all sites or just a few
[02:24] <stanley> is says another program is using the package database when there isn't one doing so
[02:24] <stanley> #adept
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley:
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !fixadeptcrash
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu repositories have mambo ?
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> what si that one again..
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> !fix adept lock
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> hey.... i'm having a problem with my ATI (fglrx) driver
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:27] <epimeth> ubuntu_: how are you connecting to the internet?
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> when I log out, it gives me a blank screen, no KDM, the screen isn't off... its black
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> but he is gone now
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> card is an Xpress1100, driver is the one included in fiest (8.34.)
[02:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Ahmuck: not that I could find
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ctrl alt bkspce doesn't work.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> neither does alt-f2
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> or even ctrl-alt bkspce for that matter
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> any ideas?
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> nosrednaekim: i don't have any
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[02:30] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: any ideas with my little audio problem?
[02:31] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: and its good to see you agai... been a while
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: can you respond with ti
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !ati
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> nosrednaekim: maybe the binary will hely
[02:31] <BloodyTux> hey nosrednaekim, fglrx is for radeon 9500 or higher
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> help*
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i've been busy with school work epimeth :(
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> I know... this is a xpress mobile chipset, not a X*****
[02:31] <epimeth> soooo... I have a Lenovo 3000 N100... I'm glad to report that wireless and wired cards worked out of the box... and I got a little popup saying that bluetooth is working as well (tho I am yet to see how/where I test that out)
[02:31] <BloodyTux> !fglrx
[02:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> it worked with edgy
[02:32] <epimeth> however, the sound isn't working
[02:32] <epimeth> its a realtek card... not sure on the specifics
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: doesn't work at all?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> try headphones
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: alsamixer in a konsole
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> muted maybe
[02:32] <_Neil> hi guys how can i remove old kernels (pre feisty)?
[02:33] <_Neil> i have 3 listed in grub now!
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> its really just an annoyance as I never log off (just suspend)
[02:33] <ubuntu_> any ideas why konqueror won't connect
[02:33] <mcrandello> _Neil, the easiest way would be through whatever package manager you're using, synaptic, adept
[02:33] <mcrandello> that *should* remove them from the menu.lst as well
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> could it possibly have something to do with DPMS?
[02:33] <_Neil> mcrandello: what packages am i looking for?
[02:33] <epimeth> its not just that, either... the volume control only lowers and raises by 10%  (ie only back and forth from 0 to 10 or 50 to 60 or 90 to 100)
[02:34] <mcrandello> _Neil, I just search for "kernel" and find them from the resulting list
[02:34] <_Neil> linux-image packages?
[02:34] <_Neil> theres loads for kernel...
[02:34] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: alsomixer is open... now what?
[02:34] <mcrandello> I think those are the ones
[02:35] <mcrandello> they should have version numbers that match the kernels you have listed in grub
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> is anything muted?
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> it would not be green at the bottom if it is
[02:35] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nope
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> i need a good bittorrent client
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> progress bars?
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> !torrent>chemicalvamp
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> so stuff is filled up
[02:35] <epimeth> all green except for MM things... Mic Caller I and Off-hook
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> chemicalvamp: azeureus?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ktorrent?
[02:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hit 9 on the keypad, that'll give you something
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> epimeth- what is the chipset? is it one of those HD audio things?
[02:37] <epimeth> I'm not sure about the chipset... there's something Intel *and* something Realtek
[02:37] <stanley> hey when i open adept it says that the packaging system database is in use by another application, when no other application is using the database
[02:37] <stanley> what do i do??
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> epimeth: lspci | grep realtek will tell you version iirc
[02:37] <Black_Mask> news just out! samsung has become the first victim of MS's claim that GNU/Linux infringes on the latter's property!
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: ^^
[02:38] <Black_Mask> http://news.com.com/Microsoft%2C+Samsung+in+patent+swap+deal/2100-1014_3-6177381.html?tag=nefd.top
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> stanley reboot
[02:38] <epimeth> !pastebin>epimeth
[02:38] <stanley> i did reboot
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> stanley or kill the process thas using it
[02:38] <stanley> and that still doesn't work
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: don't reboot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/50323
[02:38] <mcrandello> if I have the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic a dummy package?
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> grr
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> wait
[02:38] <mcrandello> *is that a dummy package?
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley:
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> type that in a konsole
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> finally
[02:39] <stanley> ok
[02:39] <mcrandello> I have a fglrx.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile but xorg doesn't seem to like it
[02:40] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/
[02:40] <epimeth> thats all of lspci
[02:40] <stanley> what does that do Admiral_Chicago?
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> stanley: clear adept out of lock.
[02:41] <Admiral_Chicago> brb phon
[02:41] <stanley> ohh ok thanx
[02:41] <epimeth> not to insult you guys by leaving in the middle of getting help, but I'll brb....
[02:43] <mcrandello> alternately are there any guides out there on forcing my wifi off the same interrupt as my video card and usb and modem
[02:44] <mcrandello> for some reason I can't make wifi work with the open source radeon drivers
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> mcrandello lemme guess your on feisty?
[02:45] <nosrednaeki1> what does wifi have to do with radeon?
[02:45] <mcrandello> chemicalvamp, yeah, it was pretty much the same story since dapper tho
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> feistys wireless support needs work
[02:46] <mcrandello> nosrednaeki1 I'm no system engineer but trust me the only way to get reliable (or any) wifi is to have the fglrx installed and working
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> ive seen dozens of people trying to get help on there wireless cards on feisty.. including myself
[02:46] <mcrandello> it's sharing an irq with the vidcard and about 5 other devices
[02:47] <nosrednaeki1> huh?
[02:47] <Toyd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niNXTPGohuU&mode=related&search=
[02:47] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: thats interesting...
[02:48] <chemicalvamp> some people get lucky, and they never have a problem and others fix it by buying a longer wire
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Toyd: please stay on topic
[02:48] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: I'm back... did you see the pastebin?
[02:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i did
[02:49] <Toyd> lol
[02:49] <epimeth> Admiral_Chicago: nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17712/ - thats my entire lspci
[02:49] <nosrednaeki1> no...something happened to my network
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> I like my solution to wireless problems
[02:49] <nosrednaeki1> wires?
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[02:50] <epimeth> Dragnslcr: I was using that solution for a while... but then I realized that it defeats the purpose :-p
[02:50] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: you don't have a realtek sound chip
[02:50] <nosrednaeki1> thats an ethernet contoller
[02:51] <epimeth> nosrednaeki: I noticed :-)  but I promise, I do!  at least thats what lenovo and windows xp claims
[02:51] <nosrednaeki1> hmm...
[02:52] <nosrednaeki1> they use the same driver anyway...so it shouldn't matter... OTOH, it may not even be detecting it..
[02:53] <Kubuntu_noob> anyone know of an isa-pnp module that will work with kubuntu?
[02:54] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: so what do I do?
[02:54] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: I have absolutely no idea... check what type of realtek chip you have in windows?
[02:55] <red22> anyone else here install kubuntu and then ubuntu-desktop?
[02:55] <nosrednaeki1> red22, I did it the other way around
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> I like alot of the ubuntu programs, specially synaptic, so I just loaded it first
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> firefox, gaim also
[02:56] <red22> nosrednaeki1, do you have any problems when you log out?
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> yeah!
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> why do you ask?
[02:56] <red22> lol
[02:56] <mcrandello> sorry for dissapearing, the cleaning lady made me move so she could mop
[02:56] <nosrednaeki1> lol
[02:57] <nosrednaeki1> do you have an ATI card?
[02:57] <red22> what happens when you log out? you get booted to non-graphical?
[02:57] <red22> yeah have ati too
[02:57] <nosrednaeki1> did you install the proprietary driver?
[02:57] <mcrandello> anyway the funny part is it was working with feisty (upgraded) until I tried out beryl
[02:57] <mcrandello> and had to reinstall
[02:57] <red22> well that's the only driver that works for my card i think
[02:57] <mcrandello>  yeah the proprietary driver
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> I get booted to a blank screen.. totally blank... no ctrl alt bkspce or nothing
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> keyboard seems locked,,
[02:58] <mcrandello> with the radeon, no wifi. The fglrx improperly installed I have to keep moving the mouse to keep a connection.
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> red22: whats your chipset?
[02:58] <red22> mcrandello: you talking about the same stuff we are or you on something else?
[02:58] <mcrandello> only with fglrx and dri does wifi work properly
[02:58] <nosrednaeki1> he's talking about something else
[02:58] <red22> ah ok nm mcran
[02:59] <mcrandello> although now that you mention it I had a bunch of problems with logging out with the ATI as well
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: do tell...
[02:59] <red22> nosrednaeki1: mobo? 965
[02:59] <mcrandello> or shutting down or ctrl-alt-bkspc after logging in
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> red22: no I mean the graphics card..
[02:59] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: what happens?
[02:59] <red22> x1950pro
[02:59] <mcrandello> they went away for the most part after the 8.32.whatever drivers
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> ok.. Xpress 1100 here
[03:00] <mcrandello> usually the system would hard lock. I'm assuming it was part of the irq conflict
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: same problem here!
[03:00] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I think I know why my audio isn't working...
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> worked fine in edgy with the 8.28's
[03:00] <nosrednaeki1> why?
[03:00] <mcrandello> also the screen would just randomly freeze due to the usb being on the same irq as the vid and wifi
[03:00] <mcrandello> the mouse would bring it down
[03:00] <red22> nosrednaeki1: have you been able to fix it though? you using proprietary drivers too? what card?
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> no.. its still not fixed... I have an Xpress1100 (integreated graphics)
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> and yeah.. prprietary drivers here..
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> OS drivers work fine
[03:01] <mcrandello> the solution for the freezes was to put "noapic" and "pollirq" into the boot options in the menu.lst file
[03:01] <nosrednaeki1> AH!
[03:02] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: audio driver for xp's readme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17714/
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> I'll try the noapic... was having problems with that before
[03:02] <red22> nosrednaeki1: so when you need to shutdown, you have to type the command in at console?
[03:02] <mcrandello> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/+bug/41272
[03:02] <mcrandello> is the bug report
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> no I can shut down fine...
[03:02] <nosrednaeki1> just no logging out and then back in
[03:03] <nosrednaeki1> epimeth: interesting.. seems to be made JUST for lenovo..
[03:03] <mcrandello> in particular it seems to affect cheap laptops with the ATIIXP chipset
[03:03] <chemicalvamp> where do i change power managment setings? my comp crases when it goes to sleep
[03:03] <red22> nosrednaeki1: ah yeah that's what i meant. the shutting down problem is due to beryl... i have no shutdown option at all now... only a single "log out" button on my shutdown screen..
[03:04] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I doubt it... they just seem to playing it off that way
[03:04] <nosrednaeki1> red22: ahh yeah... that
[03:04] <chemicalvamp> red22 ive had the sngle log out button before, i logged out and loged in again and it was gone
[03:04] <mcrandello> I have some opinions on beryl and system stability but this is a family channel
[03:04] <red22> nosrednaeki1: have you tried "startx" when you're at console? what comes up.. kde or gnome?
[03:04] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: I think my problem is that I need some sort of a UAA High Definition Audio driver first
[03:05] <nosrednaeki1> I don't think so... is this a VERY new laptop?
[03:05] <red22> chemicalvamp: when i hit log out, i'm thrown out to console and there is no more logging in until i restart :(
[03:05] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: if by VERY you mean "built, like, yesterday" then yes, I think so :-)
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> in command prompt do startkde and or startx
[03:06] <nosrednaeki1> no I mean.. the model
[03:06] <red22> chemicalvamp: but that is apparently bc i installed kubuntu and then ubuntu-dekstop since nosrednaeki1 has similar issues.
[03:06] <nosrednaeki1> red22: it depends...
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> then use sudo apt-get to fix it?
[03:06] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: thats what I meant
[03:06] <mcrandello> what other xorg drivers could I try other than ati, radeon or fglrx?
[03:06] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: "conceived, like, yesterday"
[03:06] <mcrandello> maybe with only the 2d happening I can get wireless
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> I have to go.... think i'll start a thread on ubuntu-forums
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> mcrandello: vesa
[03:07] <epimeth> nosrednaeki1: point me to it?
[03:07] <newGuy> where is the repository listing file located?
[03:07] <nosrednaeki1> can't.. its not started and I have to go..
[03:07] <red22> chemicalvamp: when i'm out in console after logout startkde doesn't start kde and startx brings up gnome.
[03:07] <epimeth> newGuy: /etc/apt/sourced.list
[03:07] <mcrandello> nosrednaeki1, thx
[03:07] <newGuy> Thanks
[03:07] <epimeth> newGuy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:08] <mcrandello> I think you can edit it in synaptic or adept_manager as well
[03:08] <soulrider> hi
[03:08] <red22> chemicalvamp: what should i apt-get to fix this?
[03:09] <newGuy> Also how do I tell it to refresh the file list?
[03:09] <soulrider> im using the live CD, one of my drives has a swap partition and im tyring to format it, but ti sais its mounted
[03:09] <soulrider> is there any way to unmount it ?
[03:10] <soulrider> found it :) nmv
[03:10] <soulrider> vm*
[03:10] <WillLuongo> soulride umount
[03:11] <soulrider> WillLuongo:  you cant do that because its swap
[03:11] <soulrider> you gotta do 'swapoff'
[03:11] <WillLuongo> soulrider: Ok
[03:11] <WillLuongo> :D
[03:11] <soulrider> oh fork, i gotta reboot again!
[03:11] <soulrider> wth is wrong with qtparted!
[03:12] <soulrider> hey, the maximum number of aprtitions is 4 right?
[03:12] <soulrider> or can you have 4 + an extended one ?
[03:15] <mcrandello> the ati_agp and agpgart modules go to the oss drivers, correct?
[03:16] <epimeth> soulrider: 3 + extended
[03:16] <epimeth> soulrider: 4 is the max amount of partitions
[03:16] <soulrider> oh crap
[03:16] <soulrider> i need to make an extended one then and move my home partition
[03:17] <soulrider> i can screw things up =/
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> ive got a whole bunch of games installed with no shortcuts in the K!menu
[03:17] <soulrider> oh ym chemicalvamp
[03:17] <soulrider> like what ?
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> vegastrike
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> dozen more
[03:17] <soulrider> is vegastrike good ?
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> its 3d
[03:17] <mcrandello> kappfinder
[03:17] <mcrandello> may work
[03:17] <soulrider> but is it good? :P
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> i dont know yet, havent played it
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> looks good
[03:18] <mcrandello> wheee vesa driver doesn't make wifi blow up
[03:20] <soulrider> guys, what distro can i use on a PC i think its a 550 mhz athlon ?
[03:20] <soulrider> not sure aobut the RAM
[03:20] <soulrider> 8 gig HD
[03:21] <Admiral_Chicago> soulrider: DSL
[03:21] <mcrandello> soulrider, I'd try some livecd distros to see what chugs first
[03:21] <soulrider> Admiral_Chicago: i was thinking of DSL too
[03:21] <soulrider> the problem is that it doesnt ahve a network card
[03:21] <chemicalvamp> kappfinder found 18 programs, none tat i was looking for
[03:22] <soulrider> installing software is what concerns me
[03:22] <soulrider> it doesnt even have USB ports
[03:22] <soulrider> god, windows 98 hard drives are so messy!
[03:22] <vbgunz> soulrider: you might have to install whatever linux you try in text mode if you have one unless maybe you have a boat load of ram to try a live cd
[03:23] <soulrider> vbgunz: no problem, i installed Arch on my computer
[03:23] <soulrider> besides, i can just read the wiki on my PC :P
[03:23] <vbgunz> damn, I have gvim and I cannot uninstall it :(
[03:24] <soulrider> why not ?
[03:24] <soulrider> oh damn, im looking at a windows 98 directory, everything sucks so much
[03:24] <soulrider> the desktop backgrounds are shockingly nasty
[03:24] <vbgunz> it doesn't want to uninstall... earlier dpkg -S gvim said it was a virtual package, now it lists some files, I cannot apt-get remove it or anything else... I don't remember ever uninstalling... I hate little things like this :(
[03:25] <bluekitsune> Hello
[03:25] <soulrider> they tried to hide a couple of BMPs as .sys files, but KDE shows the thumbnail and everything :P
[03:25] <soulrider> hi bluekitsune
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: red22: still here?
[03:25] <vbgunz> Windows 98 is awesome next to Vista. not sure exactly and doubt it but that is the overwhelming concensus out there :P
[03:25] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: yup... methinks I have a solution.... gimme a few mins
[03:26] <bluekitsune> This might be a dumb question but i need to set up my vide card drivers and openGL
[03:26] <bluekitsune> video*
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: not a dumb q at all..
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> fist of all, what kind of ideo card do you have?
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> *video
[03:26] <bluekitsune> nivida
[03:26] <vbgunz> !nvidia
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: so are you using Ubuntu fiesty?
[03:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:27] <bluekitsune> benn there
[03:27] <bluekitsune> been*
[03:27] <vbgunz> nosrednaekim: looking for the ! ;)
[03:27] <soulrider> vbgunz: if win 98 could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> nope.... its the #1 key..lol
[03:27] <bluekitsune> Um im useing Kubuntu that why that doesnt help XD
[03:27] <vbgunz> soulrider: if win Vista could work correctly with new processors it would rock :P
[03:28] <soulrider> lol
[03:28] <danish> ok none of the applications i donwload are playing the wmv
[03:28] <soulrider> nah, its blows!
[03:28] <epimeth> soulrider: no... its kernel would still suck
[03:28] <soulrider> it*
[03:28] <bluekitsune> I have Vista on this same PC
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> Is there a way to get a game pad to simulate keyboard input? Playing Supertux with the keyboard is killing my wrist
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: what version of kubuntu?
[03:28] <bluekitsune> 6.10
[03:28] <soulrider> bluekitsune:  i tried it some time ago and i thought it sucked
[03:28] <danish> and when i tried to get the gstream there are tons of them how do i know which one to downlaod
[03:28] <soulrider> the voice recognition thing was a friggin joke!
[03:28] <bluekitsune> I know!
[03:28] <jlilly> hey all. any thought on what I might do to fix the error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:28] <bluekitsune> dont even work XD
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: it'd be whole lot easier if you just did fiest
[03:28] <bluekitsune> Ya i know
[03:29] <vbgunz> I haven't tried it to be honest, not a bit excited about it
[03:29] <bluekitsune> Vista is still downloading it
[03:29] <soulrider> bluekitsune: i know widows extreme fanboys that are not convinced about vista
[03:29] <soulrider> and thats bad!
[03:29] <bluekitsune> Vista not as good as they all think
[03:29] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: you trying to do a open GL app?
[03:29] <soulrider> i musta dmit i like some of the graphics
[03:29] <jlilly> nosred: yes. beryl, but I have to get glx working first.
[03:29] <bluekitsune> I like that arro part of it
[03:29] <bluekitsune> but it just eats RAM
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: you can still use the above tutorial, even if you are using kubuntu
[03:30] <jlilly> bluekit: yea, aero is nice. I really like the search option w/ the start menu
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: what's your graphics card?
[03:30] <bluekitsune> Thats good to
[03:30] <vbgunz> soulrider: get a screenshot of Vista, those graphics will hold you down for about a day or two ;)
[03:30] <jlilly> windows key + type the first 4-5 letters of the thing you want and hit enter.
[03:30] <jlilly> nosred: nvidia 7600gs PCI-E
[03:30] <soulrider> jlilly: try beagle + kickoff
[03:30] <nosrednaekim> are you using fiesty fawn?
[03:30] <soulrider> i ahve that in arch, and its way better than the vista menu
[03:30] <jlilly> soulrider: beagle? kickoff? I'm not familiar.
[03:30] <bluekitsune> Anyone here play Secondlife?
[03:30] <jlilly> nosred: yea. I just upgraded.
[03:31] <danish> how can i play wmv files on kubuntu
[03:31] <soulrider> vbgunz: the thing i liked was that application switcher that showed all windows like a deck of cards
[03:31] <vbgunz> to be honest I don't like the Vista kickoff menu compared to the good ol KDE menu :(
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: any glx was working b4?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> *and
[03:31] <soulrider> !w32codecs | danish
[03:31] <ubotu> danish: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[03:31] <jlilly> nosred: fresh install & upgrade (from 6.10)
[03:31] <soulrider> jlilly: kde-apps.org check out kickoff
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> xine-extracodecs also works...
[03:31] <jordo23> Why did Kubuntu decide to go with Kexi as a database program over OpenOffice's Database......I don't even see it's included with Feisty, right?
[03:31] <Bearcat> hey folks.  I note that i cannot load the latest hplip drivers and associated packages. The latest i have in kubuntu is 0.9.7-4 where on the site it is 1.7.4. How can i get this in to my system easily?
[03:31] <Bearcat> is there a more recent package list?
[03:31] <soulrider> brb
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: did OpenGL work back in edgy?
[03:32] <vbgunz> danish: are you onb Feisty?
[03:32] <bluekitsune> grr i need the new one
[03:32] <danish> vbgunz yes
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> bluekitsune: new what?
[03:32] <bluekitsune> Kubuntu
[03:32] <jlilly> nosred: like I said. fresh install. I basically installed 6.10 without testing. then immediately upgraded. I only had the 6.10 CD and I didn't feel like downlloading another copy.
[03:32] <bluekitsune> and just call me blue its easyer to type lol
[03:32] <vbgunz> danish: look into installing "ubuntu-restricted-extras" that might work
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ok gotcha
[03:33] <illriginal> Hey what's up guys, I have a question, how can I check if someone is pinging me viciously? My modem keeps dropping connection.
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> its called "tab"
[03:33] <illriginal> I'm on Cable connection by the way.
[03:33] <dsmith> pinging viciously? Like DDos?
[03:33] <illriginal> yes.
[03:33] <illriginal> like attacking my connection basically.
[03:33] <jordo23> I find it wierd that Kubuntu Feisty adopted Kexi for database apps, a fork of Koffice, but then installs the rest of the OpenOffice's programs in KOffice's place.......did anyone else notice this?
[03:33] <dsmith> i had that happen to me once
[03:33] <illriginal> someone threatened me with hackin and i think they're just pingin me to death here.
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: try running the command "sudo restricted-manager"
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: thats one problem with a static IP{
[03:34] <dsmith> do you have a static IP?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[03:34] <illriginal> yeah Cable internet
[03:34] <illriginal> is static.
[03:34] <jlilly> nosred: not installed. Should I grab it?
[03:34] <Bearcat> I'm on Dapper by the way.  It seems that i can only load the hpojs driver as when i try to load the hplip driver it says it does not exist
[03:34] <test> Running kubuntu feisty clickiing a theme in  emeraled theme manager produces no response
[03:34] <illriginal> can't use proxy
[03:34] <bluekitsune> Hmm guess no ones play second life
[03:34] <illriginal> at least i don't think there's a proxy for linux.. is there?
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: makes things a heck of a lot easier
[03:34] <dsmith> have you tried calling the cable company?
[03:34] <jlilly> k. 2 sec
[03:35] <test> Chhange mac address will give u new IP ii static
[03:35] <illriginal> yeah, they say the IP cannot change
[03:35] <illriginal> unless they make the change for whatever reason they may have.
[03:35] <dsmith> test: could he change is MAC?
[03:35] <dsmith> or spoof it
[03:35] <bluekitsune> I'm gonna get the newest Kubuntu
[03:35] <bluekitsune> cya
[03:35] <test> illriginal: I found changing mac address of network card woorks
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> test: you have to restart the window manager wor whatever
[03:36] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: errored out on run.
[03:36] <nosrednaekim>  bluekitsuneok
[03:36] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: seg fault, core dumped
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> wow...
[03:36] <illriginal> test, i dunno how to do that, wouldn't that basically fiddle with my connection?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> hmm..
[03:36] <illriginal> possibility that my network card will stop workin or something?
[03:36] <jlilly> maybe b/c I'm running Kubuntu instead of ubuntu? something with the gnome libs or something?
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: umm... go install the nidia driver
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> how do you turn off this dumb hidden icon crp
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> crap*
[03:36] <dsmith> illriginal: http://www.tech-faq.com/change-mac-address.shtml
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> hidden icon?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ahh... could be
[03:37] <illriginal> and these are steps for ubuntu, yes?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> I did ubuntu and then installed kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <MrWGW> I don't suppose any of you know if JFS is a good/bad idea with *ubuntu
[03:37] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: I have tried installing:  nvidia-glx  and then nvidia-glx-new   neither fix the issue.
[03:37] <jlilly> btw: which should I be using?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: probably "new:
[03:37] <MrWGW> I saw the option to use it, and I've always really wanted to use it, but I intend to use it on a Mac, and additionally I really want to use KVM
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> did you edit your xorg?
[03:38] <MrWGW> so I'm really curious as to whether or not JFS, given that, is a good or bad idea
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> how do i view all folders
[03:38] <jlilly> nosrednaekim: I don't recall :-/
[03:38] <illriginal> Use this command to change the MAC address?: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: go look... see if it has "nv" or "nvidia"
[03:38] <jlilly> nv
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> change that to nidia..
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> *nvidia
[03:39] <jlilly> then ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> log out and then do that...
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> illriginal google "changing MAC in linux
[03:39] <jlilly> k. bbiab
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> and if it doesn't work.. change it back
[03:39] <illriginal> nice
[03:39] <illriginal> yeah it's: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:40] <jlilly> I got the splash screen.
[03:40] <jlilly> :)
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> ok...cool..
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> check if you have 3d
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> "glxgears"
[03:40] <jlilly> direct rendering: Yes
[03:40] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:40] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[03:40] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'
[03:40] <jlilly> yep.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> jlilly: ok.. you have it...cool
[03:40] <jlilly> tyvm! +1 karma point
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> this isn't /.
[03:41] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>`
[03:41] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[03:41] <illriginal> bash: command substitution: line 1: `ifconfig <interface> hw &ltclass> <address>'
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[03:41] <illriginal> was it the ` ?
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> now go follow a tutorial forberyl
[03:42] <morphius_> I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:
[03:42] <morphius_>  warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected
[03:42] <soulrider> damn, this computer is prehistoric
[03:42] <soulrider> it doesnt even have a ps2 port!!
[03:42] <morphius_> Internal error: memory corruption detected
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> have to go all....give epimeth my respects when he gets back
[03:42] <morphius_> Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 0
[03:42] <illriginal> can someone help me find out how do see if someone is pinging my connection viciously?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[03:43] <morphius_> illriginal: try wireshark.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> howdy nosrednaekim
[03:43] <illriginal> ok that's in the adept?
[03:43] <morphius_> probably.
[03:43] <illriginal> ok
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you have an ati card?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> are you running fiesty?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> with the proprietary driver?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> just reinstalled
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> having any problems logging out?
[03:44] <lovloss> Is there no support whatsoever for Radeon x700 cards in feisty? I tried running envy and i still get my monitor turning itself off when it tries to load the desktop
[03:44] <BluesKaj> it's the only one to use for dri
[03:44] <test> When running beryl it does not display the title bar max/min close buttons is this normal ?
[03:44] <illriginal> morphius, where would I find the icon for wireshark, after I download and install?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> test: no
[03:45] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim, X doesn't want to close ...it's an issue we should report
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: definately... even ati user so far has had the same problem
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> *every
[03:45] <morphius_> Probably under "internet"
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> file a bug report and i'll back it..
[03:46] <mcrandello> hrmm the wifi is tied to the mouse movement again
[03:46] <lovloss> What about this ATI problem: unable to start up even the live cds desktop without the screen turning off? o.o
[03:46] <lovloss> at least i hope thats an ati problem
[03:46] <mcrandello> the faster i move the pointr the better the thruput
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: it probably is...
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> mcrandello: WEIRD!
[03:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, it was pi**ing me off somewhat , that and the loss pf digital out on the ati ixp soundcard, after upgrading from feisty beta
[03:46] <mcrandello> if it's ati ithat's probably the problem :V
[03:46] <illriginal> sweet
[03:46] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: is x700 a rare brand? it was the most commonly sold off of tigerdirect
[03:47] <illriginal> thanks a lot morphius
[03:47] <mcrandello> about to put the mouse on the floor
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: no its not rare, but ATI support is crappy..
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: doesn't REALLY bother me...
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> I just suspend..
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> never have to log out
[03:47] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: grrr
[03:47] <WillLuongo> what is a terminal command to check disk space?
[03:47] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: The monitor losing signal must be a card issue, wouldnt you say?
[03:47] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: the solution I found seems geared towards the c200
[03:47] <epimeth> I have the n100
[03:48] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: there's an new ati proprietary driver issued 3 days ago or so , but I don't think it solves the X shutoff issue
[03:48] <epimeth> the guy with the n100 didn't say whether or not it worked for him
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: drivers probably, can you do a "ctrl+alt+f2"
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> Blues.. I just got this yesterday.,
[03:48] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: no, i cant even get in in the first place unless i use recovery mode.
[03:48] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: what I did find was that the ubuntu wiki claims the feisty install worked out of the box....
[03:48] <vbgunz> WillLuongo: df
[03:48] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: so I emailed the contact person asking for help
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: yeah.. good idea
[03:49] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: And then if i type 'kdm' with it set to "VESA", i lose monitor. if i set to "ATI", it blinks once and then claims kdm is going when its not
[03:49] <mcrandello> ctrl alt f7?
[03:49] <vbgunz> I have the binary nvidia driver *but* I never reran it when I upgraded to Feisty.. do I need to OR should I reinstall with the new kernel or something?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: when it blinks, go  to ctrl+alt f7
[03:49] <BluesKaj> well wiki claims are editable to some degree , so they aren't quite right sometimes
[03:49] <mcrandello> of course kdm could be going regardless of display
[03:49] <WillLuongo> vbgunz: Thanks
[03:49] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: What should that do?
[03:50] <vbgunz> WillLuongo: np :)
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> sitch to the X terminal
[03:50] <mcrandello> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:50] <rustin> hello, anybody can help me with audacity?
[03:50] <lovloss> Well im already in the x terminal if im running recovery mode
[03:50] <mcrandello> f7 = the framebuffer that X lives on
[03:50] <BluesKaj> this small font display bothers..just reset the resolution , so I'll brb
[03:50] <mcrandello> oh
[03:51] <lovloss> Even the loading screen makes my monitor go off if i start it the other way
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm... can you log in from the console when you do normal mode?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> alt-f2
[03:52] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: No if i try to log in regularily it will attempt the loading screen and the monitor will blink oiut
[03:52] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: But i would like to point out. On the live cd, if i press f4 and set a resolution, the loading screen works! Then it blinks out after that
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> ouch....umm...edit the grub boot line, erase the "splash"and " quite"
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> that'll give you a command prompt
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> at least
[03:53] <vbgunz> in grep, how do I create a group with an OR pipe? e.g., (^Filesystem|^/) ?
[03:53] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Recovery mode puts you in a command prompt anyway
[03:53] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: I can get that far
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: I thought you just said you were in x?
[03:54] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: No, i cant get in x. My monitor blinks out.
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> ah...
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> thats very weird... this isn't a laptop?
[03:54] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Nope, its a pc
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> hmm... does it have an onboard video?
[03:54] <rustin> knellotron: yes
[03:55] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: i believe it might. would it help to try moving the cable over?
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> well.. you won't be able to use the ati...
[03:55] <illriginal> Bogus IP Header? >.>
[03:55] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Yeah, i know... i really would like to be able to
[03:55] <illriginal> someone sent me bogus IP headers
[03:55] <rustin> knellotron: is pvt blocked?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: I don't  have a clue what your problem might be.... hmm... try setting the sync ranges REALLY wide in the xorg...
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> it can't hurt anything...
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> as long as its an LCD
[03:56] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: LCD? i wish.
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: its not?
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Im behind the times arent i
[03:57] <mcrandello> whats really wierd is if i spin the mouse in a circle i get 40 kBps, figure 8 gets me >100
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: its one of those deep ones
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> then check up the manual on it somewhere, find the sync ranges..
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:57] <mcrandello> moving the mouse side to side is 75
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> crts are nice..good response times
[03:57] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: the manual lol. i wonder how many years its been since i had that thing
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: the internet..maybe the back of the monitor itself... you need the sync ranges
[03:58] <vbgunz> did knetworkmanager OBSOLETE wireless lan assistant (wlassitant)?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> vbgunz: sorta..
[03:58] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: all i know is that i ran edgy eft on a different box on this machine for a long time
[03:58] <mcrandello> since this is the vesa and not the fglrx driver should I file a bug with the kernel? It appears to be the ATIIXP driver
[03:58] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: *on this monitor
[03:58] <rustin> knellotron: guess i need register
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm... interesting..can you get the sync ranges from that machine?
[03:59] <rr72> im back
[03:59] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Unfortunately it was obliterated in the same car wreck that broke my femur.
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: ouch.
[03:59] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: bad week. very bad
[03:59] <rr72> im the guy with the wireless card problem who got it to work under xubuntu
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> rr72: thats always nice
[03:59] <knellotron> ruskin: what's your question?
[03:59] <mcrandello> rr72, you are my hero
[03:59] <Jack32> hmm, is there a way to get rid of these dialog boxes that pop down when hovering over, "minimize window" "close window" "expand"
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> I know the answer...
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> 42
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: So i get back from the hospital and now im stuck on a windoze computer, already getting viruses, already stressing out about some of its limitation, and knowing no way out
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: hmm..
[04:00] <mcrandello> I'm the guy who has to move his mouse or the wifi blows up
[04:00] <mcrandello> ;_;
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> do you have and edgy cd?
[04:00] <mcrandello> it's like a mentally challenged version of that movie speed
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: Somewhere. I dont forsee it being different.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> lovloss: but it might...
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> mcrandello i was just thinking of that movie
[04:00] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: It wouldn work anyway, though. this one is 64 bit architecture, thats new
[04:00] <WillLuongo> My trashcan disappeared. How can I get it back?
[04:01] <lovloss> nosrednaekim: AND its on a SATA
[04:01] <red22> nosrednaekim: i'm here
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> at least it doesnt have to do 60
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> 32 works on 64 bit computers
[04:01] <newGuy> Hey, is there a way to set up windows games (like city of heroes) to work in kubuntu?
[04:01] <vbgunz> "mentally challenged version of that movie speed" <- thats hot!
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> red22: fix our problem?
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> newGuy: WINE
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[04:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:02] <newGuy> I tried to get wine with the package manager it was some
[04:02] <newGuy> I tried to get wine with the package manager it was some 'dummy package'
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: so did you file a bug report?
[04:02] <WillLuongo> !trash
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <WillLuongo> !trashcan
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trashcan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <lovloss> well cy aguys, im going to go try stuff, likely fail and mope about it... byebye
[04:02] <vbgunz> how stable did WINE get with Steam?
[04:02] <red22> nosrednaekim: i've been trying some updates to ubuntu/gnome stuff and i'm gonna restart to see.  if not i'm not sure what else to try other than reinstall xorg or kde..
[04:02] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: not yet , I'm hoping I can figure out what's wrong
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> red22: sorry what was your problem again?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: could it be DPMS?
[04:03] <newGuy> Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package)
[04:03] <newGuy> This is a dummy package to ease upgrade from users of old libwine-* packages to the newer wine package. It can be safely removed at any time.
[04:03] <newGuy> That is what it says for libwine
[04:03] <rustin> knellotron: there's a "register command"?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim:  DPMS?
[04:04] <vbgunz> can WINE work with a dual boot PC, can it use my already existing Windows partition for it's programs?
[04:04] <jason_> hi guys sup
[04:04] <knellotron> rustin: just ask your question here.
[04:04] <Gabz> vbgunz: i'm using crossover office with stream... it works just poor fps in CSS
[04:05] <rustin> knellotron: thanks
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: :O
[04:05] <red22> nosrednaekim: i can't log out correctly... just dies to non-graphical/console login.  althought when you restart, the gui login screen starts up fine.
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: you have the binary driver for your video card?
[04:05] <Gabz> Gabz: no i'm just using the packaged one
[04:05] <vbgunz> Gabz: so you not using the binary driver for your card?
[04:06] <Gabz> vbgunz: no packaged and i only have a 1.6 mhz processor
[04:06] <BluesKaj> red22: ati card I bet :(
[04:06] <vbgunz> Gabz: 1.6MHz processor? wow, you lucky if you can run a stop watch ;)
[04:06] <red22> blueskaj: you bet.  seems to be cornering the market on kubuntu headaches?
[04:07] <rustin> well, my mic is ok but i can't record sound... can anybody help me?
[04:07] <vbgunz> Gabz: you're going to get wack fps without the binary driver if you running Nvidia or ATI, try installing the binary and then tell me what the fps is like (if you can)
[04:07] <BluesKaj> yup red22. so it seems
[04:07] <Gabz> vbgunz: thanks for the tip i'll try it later...
[04:08] <vbgunz> rustin: if you get an answer that works for you, please share it with me if I miss it. I tried this a long time ago and gave up :(
[04:08] <red22> blueskaj: it's weird though bc everything else works fine after instaling the prop.drivers.. even the beryl candy without much trouble..
[04:08] <Gabz> rustin: which program are you recording in ?
[04:09] <rustin> vbgunz: i'm trying audacity and the kde recorder
[04:09] <rustin> sorry
[04:09] <rustin> Gabz:
[04:09] <rustin> :)
[04:09] <lunar-raven> !beryl
[04:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <rr72> why does my kubuntu desktop cd live crash when i enter in the exact same commands in as when i boot up a xubuntu live desktop cd and that doesnt crash? yes i MD5SUM the kubuntu cd
[04:10] <Gabz> right click on the speaker in the bottom corner click show mixer window and go to the input tab
[04:10] <Gabz> make sure your mic is selected and the volumne is up
[04:10] <vbgunz> Gabz: kmix?
[04:10] <Gabz> yep kmix
[04:11] <vbgunz> ok I need a way to test it, what would you suggest?
[04:11] <Gabz> vbgunz: i've only used a mic for skype in linux...
[04:11] <rustin> Gabz: the mic's green light is on... the red too
[04:11] <vbgunz> Gabz: yeah, once I tried for that reason too but failed miserably
[04:12] <vbgunz> rustin: green is mute
[04:12] <vbgunz> rustin: or vice versa, hover over the light
[04:12] <Gabz> check that you might also have caputure device depending on your sound card
[04:14] <Gabz> vbgunz: rustin there has i've also had a problem with kmix not doing it's job right in konsole you can use alsamixer which is worth the go
[04:15] <rustin> Gabz: i don't have this...
[04:15] <rustin> oh, forget what i saw
[04:16] <vbgunz> Gabz: I went nuts in alsamixer once, I thought I botched my system sound, later found out it was kleansweep removing dead menu entries that were'nt exact dead :P
[04:16] <mcrandello> interesting the fglrx driver that came with feisty only works after installing libstdc++.s0.5
[04:17] <BluesKaj> red22, I'm not a real fan of automatic installers like Envy but it helped in dapper ...dunno if it's upgraded to Feisty yet
[04:18] <nosrednaeki1> BluesKaj: still here?
[04:18] <nosrednaeki1> I fixed it
[04:19] <rustin> Gabz: i enabled all the controls... same results
[04:19] <vecina> Its me, lovloss. I got in by switching the graphics driver to fgxlfx or whatever but now im having a new poblem
[04:19] <vecina> Why isnt my external HD mounting automatically?
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> how do i dissable sleep mode and such..
[04:20] <BluesKaj> yup nosrednaeki, just installing some apps , so I'm back and forth
[04:21] <Gabz> rustin: i don't have a mic attached to this computer and it's been awhile sorry i'm not going to be much more help
[04:22] <rustin> Gabz: no problem... thank you very much :)
[04:22] <mcrandello> ah success
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> umm...
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> anyone still around?
[04:23] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, how did you fix it ?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> I have absolutely no idea..
[04:24] <BluesKaj> :) !!
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> I added the llines from that ubuntu forums page
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> to the gdm (but I'm not using GDM!)
[04:24] <vbgunz> im telling you setting up a mic in KDE is a pain in the ass, I never got it to work, am failing miserably now... I remember though it was a snap in Ubuntu
[04:24] <BluesKaj> URL ?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> 1 sec
[04:24] <chemicalvamp> how do you change power management settings? like turning off monitor when idle, or harddisk?
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254167&page=4
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> now its working...
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> IDK..
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> weird
[04:25] <mcrandello> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source libstdc++5, blow away everything in lib that said fglrx, then run the 8.36.5 installer, go into /lib/modules/fglrx/build-mod and ./make.sh cd .. ./make_install.sh and that did it
[04:25] <BluesKaj> thx nosrednaekim
[04:25] <mcrandello> quite the cowboy method
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> hope it works...i'm going to try loggin out again to be sure... cross your finders..
[04:26] <mcrandello> not to see if the irq conflicts are gone
[04:26] <mcrandello> *now
[04:27] <vecina> how do you mount devices its not automatically recognizing
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> vecina what device
[04:28] <vecina> chemicalvamp: in this case, i just plugged in a jumpdrive. no response
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> ok..on  second try...nothing... very weird
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> WIAT!
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> try a Ctrl+alt+backspace right from KDE...
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> it'll give you a kdm screen i'll bet!
[04:31] <rr72> lol it would be funny if half the room quit
[04:31] <jordo23> Anyone here setup Wordpress in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> thats the one thing I did different the other rime
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> so we need KDM to automatically restart X or something...
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> like that GDM fix
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: did you hear all that?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> no such file in my setup as the URL
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: say again?
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: that was a tutorial for if you were using GDM
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> anyway...I have to go.... we'll figure it out later..
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:33] <BluesKaj> ok cya
[04:34] <mcrandello> whee blazing fast wifi and accellerated X
[04:35] <rr72> whys is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?
[04:35] <vbgunz> Gabz: i partially got the mic successful... i can hear myselk through my speakers with krec *but* i never managed to record sound :(
[04:35] <vecina> oops
[04:36] <vecina> sorry guys i miffed my connection... anyone know why i cant seem to get anything to mount?
[04:36] <wolferine> whats an app to test writes to a hd?
[04:36] <Gabz> vbgunz: that's more your recording program doesn't see the mic as the recording source
[04:36] <vbgunz> wolferine: maybe hdparm
[04:36] <rr72> why is the live cd -generic kernel and the install is -386?
[04:36] <wolferine> right
[04:36] <wolferine> thats it
[04:36] <rr72> !kernel
[04:36] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:37] <vbgunz> Gabz: only through the program I heard my voice in my speakers but krec never really recorded it... maybe I need another recorder :P
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: OK! when you hard exit KDE with ctrl+altbkspce, log back in, and then log off normally it doesn';t freeze
[04:37] <jordo23> I am trying to install Wordpress for Ubuntu, and have installed the package. Does anyone know of a link or site of what to do next to link it to my LAMP components?
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> sorry had come back when I discovered that
[04:37] <vecina> :,(
[04:38] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim: weird :)
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> yep... at least we can log out... somehow..
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:39] <vecina> so... how do you make ubuntu mount something you plug in, say, a jump drive...?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> sounds like there are 2 X's running
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> yeah.....
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> you're right..
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> i'm showing one now...but I killed that other one..
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> (if there was another one)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> whats your list of running programs say?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> what sound card do you have , nosrednaekim
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> realtek 883
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> HD audio
[04:41] <nosrednaekim> why?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> does your digital out work. ?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> spidf? I don't know..
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> how can I check?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: why, do you have the same chipset?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> I'm running a coax to my tv room audio system that accepts pcm signals
[04:43] <rr72> ugh ugh yuk yum
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> reall can't help with that... and I REALLY have to run now..
[04:43] <BluesKaj> the sound is DAC'd on windows but not on Feisty
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> good luck with the fglrx-Xorg-problem
[04:44] <vbgunz> Gabz: wow, if not for rustin I would not have tried setting up my mic again! I got it to work, I used "krecord" instead of "krec"... my mic does work on Kubuntu :)
[04:44] <vbgunz> Gabz: thanks!
[04:44] <BluesKaj> well, i just want DRI for google earth and that's fine for me...the beryl eye candy is just window dressing
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> Ctrl+alt +bkspce s your friend lol..
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> try it,,
[04:45] <vecina> When i stick a USB stick in, it should read it and something should pop up, right? Because im trying it... nothing
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> vecina: try another usb port
[04:46] <vecina> nosrednaekim: Tried :/
[04:47] <madmike> wow i relllly hope all this werid stuff thats been goin on to my box here was just my hard drive dieing
[04:49] <vbgunz> it's not always good to "just" hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace... I learned a few days ago by someone in here, it is always best to logout first, then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:49] <red22> blueskaj, what problem logging out do you have again?
[04:50] <mcrandello> personally I hold down the power button until I hear a "clunk" but that comes from previous ati driver problems
[04:50] <BluesKaj> X keeps trying reload , then it just stalls at a black screen
[04:51] <red22> blueskaj: that happens when you log out from your session? the first login after a restart works fine?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:51] <BluesKaj> red22 it clicks off and on about 3 times then just stalls
[04:53] <red22> blueskaj: what you running? window manager and distro version... i have feisty and kde with gnome also installed.
[04:54] <BluesKaj> no gnome
[04:54] <BluesKaj> just kde
[04:54] <chipbuddy> hey, are there any programmers here?
[04:54] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:54] <Gabz> !printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:54] <red22> blueskaj: hm i thought maybe it was the combination that had screwed it up...
[04:55] <BluesKaj> ok ,brb
[04:55] <red22> ok c ya later
[04:56] <jlilly> my sound isn't working. its onboard sound for an ASUS M2N-MX mobo. How do I check if drivers are loaded for it?
[04:58] <hawk__> hello everyone i need to know what to do about the dvds not playing
[04:59] <martalli> hawk__, Did you install the libdvdcss?
[05:00] <hawk__> thanx man that is what it was
[05:00] <martalli> np
[05:01] <martalli> jlilly, Sometimes the volume just isn;'t turned up in the mixer
[05:02] <hawk__> apt dos not show anything under that name
[05:02] <martalli> hawk__, Did you enable all the repositories?
[05:02] <hawk__> 7.0 how do you do that
[05:02] <FenrisUy> hi, first linux install ever, anyone knows how to set the display to show 1440x900 in hp pavillion dv9000 laptop with nvidia 7600 go?
[05:03] <FenrisUy> linux instal is kubuntu 7.04
[05:03] <martalli> hawk__, Open adept, click onthe  "Adept" menu (first ont he left) and then click manage repositories
[05:03] <hawk__> ok did that and it says that we have all the reps don
[05:04] <TheDebugger> Anyway... libdvdcss2 is NOT in default repos
[05:04] <TheDebugger> libdvdread does contain a script to install it though
[05:05] <martalli> I installed mine with the medibuntu repo, but I don't thin that is really recommended
[05:05] <TheDebugger> same
[05:06] <martalli> TheDebugger, How do you start the scriupt from the libdvdread package?
[05:06] <martalli> U guess we should keep our odvice ont he kubutnu channel as close to vanilla as possible
[05:06] <hawk__> but it was before in 6.10
[05:06] <jlilly> martalli: it was in this case, but I have to head home now. I'll probably ask about it later.
[05:07] <martalli> jlilly, OK.  Someone here will probably try to help
[05:07] <martalli> jlilly, g'night
[05:07] <TheDebugger> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:09] <martalli> nice trick - thanks for the advice
[05:09] <hawk__> !dvd
[05:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:09] <martalli> hawk__, If you run that, you will need to run it as a root user ("sudo..."
[05:10] <wersdaluv> can someone help me with raki? I'm sorry if this is off topic. it's my first time here
[05:10] <martalli> what's raki?
[05:10] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm having trouble getting kooka to recognise my scanner (an HP C3180). Is there an alternate way of setting it up?  I have the hplip driver loaded for what that's worth
[05:11] <wersdaluv> raki is an active sync substitute
[05:11] <vecina> Why do i have to put in the feisty cd to apitiude install stuff ? i didnt have to do that with edgy
[05:12] <martalli> Bearcat, I think you have to run a specific setup program... try "hp-setup": or "sudo hp-setup" fromt he CLI
[05:12] <martalli> vecina, Just disable the CD repo in adept
[05:12] <Bearcat> martalli: thanks. I'll try that.
[05:13] <Tony_> anyone here have 1680x1050 res working and care to share their xorg.conf?
[05:14] <martalli> vecina, Hmm - I didn't see the cd in adept
[05:14] <wersdaluv> does anyone here know how to  configure Raki.. I tried to start dccm but...
[05:14] <vecina> i cant even get into adept
[05:14] <wersdaluv> "could not start dccm or dccm has exited"
[05:15] <Bearcat> martalli: there doesn't seem to be such a command (unless i am missing a package).
[05:15] <vecina> oh im installing
[05:15] <martalli> Bearcat, I seem to have it...hmm
[05:16] <vecina> My nedxt problem is that im in recovery mode because i have to configure xserver to the fglrx driver. I want it to stay that way whejn i run it normally, but it switches to VESA and crashes
[05:16] <vecina> under VESA my monitor loses connection
[05:16] <Bearcat> martalli: (i'm a sourcemage user working on someone eles pc so i dont' know debian that well). What package is it from?
[05:17] <martalli> Bearcat, I think hplip, which is installed by default, I thought
[05:17] <Bearcat> martalli: yeah, i have that installed
[05:17] <martalli> Triid typing "sudo hp-setup" fromt he command line?
[05:17] <martalli> Alternatively, try "sudo apt-get install hp-setup"
[05:18] <Bearcat> martalli: thanks. I'll try that as soon as adept finishes. Are the repositores extra slow tonight or is it just me?
[05:19] <martalli> Bearcat, I think that the repos have been running slower since the release last week.  Usually my speeds from the repo are 3-4 times faster
[05:20] <alex_> hey - when i'm putting a USB thumdrive into my laptop kubuntu isn't automatically recognizing it and putting it in the Removable media folder.  Could someone give me a hand on how I can make it work?
[05:20] <alex_> :)
[05:20] <vecina> *points to alex* In answering him I , too , shall be answered *ignignok voice*
[05:20] <stanley> is anyone using kubuntu 7.04?
[05:21] <wersdaluv> is the thumbdrive the only usb device with the problem?
[05:21] <alex_> stanley: probably most ppl
[05:21] <vecina> We await your response, earthlings. >.>
[05:21] <alex_> wersdaluv: i have not used any other USB device.  :/
[05:21] <alex_> nothing else to test it with..
[05:21] <martalli> Not much reason to use edgy anymore and dapper is very long in the tooth (maybe nice for servers)
[05:21] <Bearcat> martalli: there is no hp-setup program that i can find..hmm.. Is there a way to search the package directory to get a listing of what package a file comes from?
[05:21] <alex_> It may be formatted FAT32.  I'm pretty sure, actually..
[05:21] <stanley> ok
[05:21] <stanley> has anyone installed kdm?
[05:22] <martalli> Bearcat, I have been looking around and cannot find another package name for it
[05:22] <wersdaluv> oh... try another usb device first.. as for my case, before, all my usb devices did not work
[05:22] <stanley> on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:22] <alex_> i don't have a USB device to try with
[05:22] <alex_> :(
[05:22] <alex_> (besides the flash drive i'm trying to make work)
[05:23] <martalli> Bearcat, Did you just do a full update?
[05:23] <martalli> Do you get very many packages?  I wonder if it came as an update...
[05:23] <Bearcat> martalli: nope. And apparently it does come with the hplip program but i dont' seem to have it.
[05:25] <stanley> alex have u installed kdm on 7.04??
[05:25] <alex_> kdm..  hmm.
[05:26] <martalli> Bearcat, Hmm.  I wonder if "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-meta" might work (http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/04/hplip-in-feisty.html)
[05:26] <alex_> it's showing that it's installed in Adept.
[05:26] <alex_> yep!
[05:26] <martalli> bearcat.  Another alternative might be: sudo apt-get hpijs-ppds
[05:27] <alex_> it's an imation USB 2.0 2 GB flash drive
[05:27] <wersdaluv> alex, are you using a laptop?
[05:27] <alex_> no idea why it wouldn't be recognized..
[05:27] <alex_> yes, i am!  :)  It's an acer.
[05:27] <alex_> (wonderful, i know)
[05:27] <Bearcat> martalli: well, since i'm trying to get the scanner working i think installing hipjs would be a step backward, don't you?
[05:27] <morphius_> I followed this tutorial to set up vnc with resumable sessions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448. Now I get the following error in my syslog when I try to connect:
[05:27] <morphius_> warning: can't get client address: Transport endpoint is not connected
[05:27] <morphius_> Internal error: memory corruption detected
[05:27] <morphius_> Abnormal termination of greeter for display don.local:1, code 1, signal 0
[05:27] <morphius_> When I connect, I can enter my pwd and then it does not log me in.
[05:27] <alex_> Kubuntu as actually been pretty friendly with it.  :)
[05:27] <stanley> so alex have u changed ur login theme??
[05:27] <wersdaluv> type dmesg in the terminal
[05:27] <stanley> are u able to??
[05:27] <martalli> Bearcat, maybe so...
[05:28] <alex_> stanley - no, i haven't.  I could try if you wish.  My problem is a USB 2.0 drive problem though..  unless there's another alex with an issue that i'm not seeing..
[05:28] <vecina>  How come when i reload the computer it automatically sets my xserver back to VESA? i have to go to recoverty mode and change it to fglrx each time or the monitor will cut signal!
[05:28] <wersdaluv> stanley, you can change your login screen in kcontrolcenter
[05:28] <alex_> i'm using beryl (emerald) for my theme..
[05:28] <Bearcat> martalli: i'm kinda assuming that the scanner functionality will only work with the true hplip driver.
[05:28] <martalli> Im just trying to find the package that has hp-setup...honestly, I don't think I did anything special.  However, I started with feisty onthe beta...I don't think that would make a difference
[05:28] <wersdaluv> alex, type dmesg in the terminal
[05:28] <alex_> dmesg
[05:28] <alex_> er
[05:28] <alex_> (heh)
[05:28] <wersdaluv> yes
[05:29] <wersdaluv> damn
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> is there any way to undo a rm command
[05:29] <wersdaluv> in konsole
[05:29] <martalli> Bearcat, Another solution would be to try reinstalling hplip (sudo aptitude reinstall hplip)
[05:30] <martalli> Bearcat, sudo aptitude reinstall hplip hplip-data
[05:30] <stanley> yea but when i use kcontrolcentre wersdaluv there is no administrator mode buttin
[05:30] <Bearcat> martalli: will that force a redownload of the file?
[05:30] <martalli> I believe so
[05:30] <stanley> so i am not able to change my theme
[05:30] <alex_> i'm trying to paste this crazy message from the dmesg
[05:31] <martalli> However, I can't see why a frsh install would have that broken...It's just a though, those are the only hplip packages I have installed
[05:31] <wersdaluv> alex, dont you have any other usb device like a usb mouse or something?
[05:31] <Bearcat> martalli: and furthermore 0.9.7 is really old!
[05:31] <alex_> wers..  hmm. YEs!  I think i have a mouse.  brb
[05:32] <martalli> Bearcat, Current version in feisty is 1.7.3
[05:32] <Bearcat> martalli: how do i get that?
[05:32] <Bearcat> is "feisty" stable?
[05:32] <alex_> okay
[05:32] <alex_> optical mouse is installed
[05:32] <alex_> and working
[05:33] <martalli> Bearcat:  What is the output of: lsb_release -d
[05:33] <alex_> it started working immediately
[05:33] <don_> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <wersdaluv> you mean the mouse is working properly?
[05:33] <wersdaluv> mouse pointer is not slow or something
[05:33] <wersdaluv> ?
[05:33] <alex_> nope
[05:33] <alex_> working fine :)
[05:33] <Bearcat> martalli: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:33] <wersdaluv> so the problem is with the thumbdrive
[05:33] <martalli> Bearcat, You're using Dapper - I am on feisty
[05:33] <don_> what is the best guide beryl
[05:34] <alex_> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=77437
[05:34] <wersdaluv> alex, are you using feisty?
[05:34] <alex_> Yes I am wersdaluv
[05:34] <Bearcat> martalli: how do i switch up? Download a Cd and reinstall?
[05:34] <martalli> You can simply apt-get your way up
[05:34] <se7en> where could i find (log) more infos if a program crashes all the time
[05:34] <martalli> Hmmm.
[05:34] <alex_> that nomorepasting.com link is my dmesg by the way
[05:34] <wersdaluv> have you tried the thumbdrive with another computer?
[05:35] <alex_> yeah, it works
[05:35] <alex_> even in my dvd player w/ USB port it works
[05:35] <martalli> Bearcat, I don't know if you can directly upgrade from dapper to feisty.  Instead - upgrade from dapper-> edgy -> feisty
[05:35] <alex_> when i plug it in, i see a little light on the drive light up too
[05:35] <Bearcat> martalli: what is the most efficient way of doing that?
[05:35] <wersdaluv> no pop-up when you plug the thumbdrive?
[05:35] <alex_> nope :/
[05:36] <wersdaluv> does a usb icon appear on the desktop?
[05:36] <wersdaluv> it's supposed to appear there
[05:36] <alex_> no, no USB icon.  nothing in /media
[05:37] <wersdaluv> that's really strange... what's the brand of the thumbdrive?
[05:37] <alex_> imation
[05:37] <wersdaluv> i got my kingston working out of the box...
[05:37] <wersdaluv> i dont know about that
[05:37] <alex_> yeah
[05:37] <alex_> thanks for your help by the way - very nice of you
[05:37] <martalli> Bearcat, Here is the standard way to upgrade versions from dapper: gksu update-manager -c
[05:38] <wersdaluv> try searching the forums with the right keywords
[05:38] <alex_> i'll make sure to help someone else in the same fashion
[05:38] <alex_> okay
[05:38] <alex_> :D
[05:38] <martalli> Bearcat, wait a sec on that
[05:38] <wersdaluv> haha.. that's nice alex.. someone else helped me this way too.. even better.. haha
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | Bearcat
[05:39] <ubotu> Bearcat: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:40] <alex_> hey Bearcat - use Adept
[05:40] <alex_> under System
[05:40] <alex_> :)
[05:40] <martalli> Bearcat, First you will need to upgrade to edgy
[05:40] <Bearcat> alex_: i'm there
[05:40] <alex_> just launch it - it should give you a message saying there's an upgrade available
[05:40] <martalli> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417644
[05:40] <alex_> okay - have you updated it?
[05:40] <epimeth> might as well try again.... long story short: brand new lenovo laptop, sound not working... aparently a known problem: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2725
[05:41] <jodas> Hey does anyone know how to use AC3d?
[05:41] <jodas> Or Povray?
[05:41] <epimeth> however, the person who has what might be my laptop (doesnt specify model, only make) does not post if it solved his problem
[05:41] <Bearcat> alex_: yup
[05:41] <Bearcat> there is no gksu command
[05:41] <Bearcat> ...wierd
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Bearcat: kdesu, I think
[05:42] <jodas> Does anyone know how to use Povray?
[05:42] <martalli> Bearcat, Try just sudoupdate-manager -c
[05:42] <jodas> Which channel should I go to for this?
[05:42] <martalli> woops: sudo update-manager -c
[05:43] <epimeth> also, no explanation of how to install the patch...
[05:43] <Bearcat> martalli: "update-manager" is not on my system
[05:46] <Bearcat> ok, update-manager wants a bunch of gnome stuff
[05:46] <Bearcat> *sigh*
[05:46] <martalli> Not ideal
[05:47] <Bearcat> ok, i'm doing it anway :)
[05:47] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyway of backing up your settings if you want to flatten and reinstall
[05:47] <martalli> Bearcat - That will probably be fine
[05:47] <martalli> Is this kubuntu dapper?
[05:48] <Bearcat> yup
[05:48] <Bearcat> and i watch the downloads error out as they have been all night, as i try them again and again. It takes about 5 times
[05:49] <martalli> Bearcat, I am surprised that the dapper repos are that busy
[05:50] <martalli> Just how much custom stuff does your friend have?
[05:51] <epimeth> what version of KDE is included in feisty?  also, how would I check it myself?
[05:51] <Bearcat> martalli: almost nothing
[05:51] <martalli> Maybe it would work better just to download a new install disk a start over...that's what's necessary for most other distros, and with the busy distros you will apparently be waiting a long time.  otoh, I head that there wre 6000 ubuntu cd seeders tha day after the distro came out
[05:52] <martalli> You might have the desktop install cd downloaded in 2-3 hours if you have a fast connection
[05:53] <Kaepora> can kubuntu support my ATI mobility radeon x1400 card???
[05:53] <mark__> yes
[05:53] <mark__> it can
[05:54] <Bearcat> martalli: they have dial-up :(
[05:54] <Kaepora> mark__: how?
[05:54] <Kaepora> i can't getr past a 1024x768 res :(
[05:54] <Bearcat> martalli: so if i just download a CD i can upgrade this easily by that method.
[05:54] <mark__> you'd have to install an xorg driver and properly configure your xorg.conf to use that driver
[05:54] <martalli> Bearcat, That might be part of the problem withthe repos, too
[05:54] <mark__> is pretty much the jist of it
[05:54] <martalli> Bearcat, I would just reinstall of the cd
[05:55] <Bearcat> martalli: won't that distroy the current installed package informatoin etc?
[05:55] <martalli> Bearcat, There are sveeral options - you would upgrade off the dvd or "alternative" install disk (I  don't think the desktop install can do that)
[05:56] <martalli> Like most distro - their info will be safe to reinstall if they have kept a separate /home partition.  If you want to upgrade, get both the install disks for edgy and feisty
[05:56] <martalli> First upgrade to edgy, then to feisty
[05:57] <martalli> Do they have a dvd drive?  You would be better off getting the dvd install disks
[05:57] <Bearcat> yup, they do
[05:57] <martalli> With the computer on, you just plop in the disk and the computer will say something like "A new distribution volume is available, would you like to upgrade"
[05:58] <martalli> The dvd install disks will have everything you need:  Check out torrent.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <Bearcat> i was tempted to just install sourcemage for them, but it's not user friendly. All set up is manual and they are very much newbies
[05:58] <martalli>  Bearcat *buntu is very user friendly
[05:59] <martalli> Way past my initial introduction to mandrake
[05:59] <Bearcat> right, that's why i picked it for them
[05:59] <Bearcat> i was damned if i was gonna let them buy Vista!
[06:00] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone have a list of what automatix does and what packages it installs for each option, so I don't have to use it and fuck up my kubuntu install?
[06:00] <martalli> Bearcat, that's for certain - I have heard plenty of professional its folks quite upset with vista
[06:00] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Check out the automatix website
[06:00] <don_> !dvd
[06:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:01] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, It will tell you what it installs, although they update it frequently and it develops and loses functionality over time
[06:02] <bluekitsune> drat
[06:02] <Bearcat> martalli:  http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/20070418/   I don't see an edgy torrent. I can't go straight to feisty?
[06:02] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: i mostly just want it for installing all the media codecs and auto-detecting and mounting my ntfs drives and marking them read/write
[06:02] <martalli> Bearcat, I don't think so.  I would just reinstall if that is possible
[06:02] <bluekitsune> How to i set up the nvidea drivers in feisty?
[06:02] <bluekitsune> nvidea*
[06:03] <bluekitsune> er
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia
[06:03] <bluekitsune> Ya
[06:03] <bluekitsune> XD
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> !ati
[06:03] <Doctor_Nick> !nvidia
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <Doctor_Nick> i think it hates you hitmanWilly
[06:03] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Supposedly it will install codecs automatifcally on its own
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> apparently... :(
[06:03] <martalli> (I mean feisty)
[06:03] <Bearcat> thank you martalli. I'm gonna scamper off and help them next week after i've downloaded the dissc
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: this is false
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> only mp3s
[06:04] <jordo23> Where do you manage Remote desktop in Kubuntu Feisty?  The Create and Manage Invitations is gone....
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> (on kubuntu, at least)
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> and that's just amarok
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> yeah :/
[06:04] <Doctor_Nick> and amarok crashes when you open an mp3
[06:04] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, Yeah, I actually used the medibuntu repos, because I started witht he beta and it never offered me codecs
[06:05] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: I know about the medibuntu repos, but there's other packages that it installs too
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> martalli, they have a package ubuntu-restricted-extras that installs all that stuff
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> martalli, ie mp3, flash, java, etc.
[06:05] <dennister> k...bout to take the plunge: edgy to feisty...server first, clean install.........hmmm.....anyone here installed mythtv on feisty yet?
[06:06] <martalli> Doctor_Nick, I used it for edgy without problems, but it as hard upgrading to feisty
[06:06] <bluekitsune> geez
[06:06] <Doctor_Nick> martalli: I know, that's why I dont want to use it
[06:06] <dennister> the howto for feisty says to do the nvidia proprietary drivers *after* mythtv install...in edgy you did it *before* any mythtv stuff
[06:07] <jordo23> !vnc
[06:07] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:07] <bluekitsune> I cant seem to get my vid card to work at all
[06:09] <Bearcat> *scampers off*
[06:10] <morphius_> How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[06:11] <don_> cant get dvd to play
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !libdvdcss
[06:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:12] <don_> i have downlaoded dvdlibcss2 but it still want play anyone have ideas
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, don_ sorry I'm a bit busy atm to help
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> don_, did you run the script that libdvdcss2 came with?
[06:12] <don_> no what is that
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> don_, look at the ubotu link for setting it up
[06:14] <chemicalvamp> my res is stuck at 640x480! how do i get it back to 1024x768?.. (i crashed AGAIN and now its all fucked up)
[06:15] <don_> it says no script found
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> don_, you also need libdvdread3
[06:15] <don_> i got that one two
[06:16] <don_> i have it but it still say there no file
[06:16] <chemicalvamp> actually im supposed to have 1280x800 any ideas?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> don_, the path is incorrect, its /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/
[06:17] <don_> cool man thanx got it working
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> don_, took me a little bit to find it too
[06:18] <chemicalvamp> !ati>chemicalvamp
[06:19] <dac> I need a 20, 40, 60, 80 GBHD for an packard bell box, any suggestions?
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> im having some bad issues here, if anybody can help
[06:22] <orco> Saludos a todos
[06:22] <chemicalvamp> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:23] <orco> Gracias
[06:24] <jordo23> Can someone tell my why I have tightvnc server running but cannot for the life of me connect to it when the correct ports are forwarded?
[06:25] <jordo23> !vnc
[06:25] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:26] <crabgrass> partitioning question: i have a drive, and i need a reiser partition for my os (/ as the mount point, i assume) an ext3 partition for my stuff (/home as mount point, i think) and a swap partition, but... i don't know how to set this up in 7.04's guided partitioner. can anyone help?
[06:31] <chemicalvamp> can anybody tell me why edgy crashes while doing nothing, then reverted to the defualt MESA diver... nd wont take the fglrx driver?
[06:38] <chemicalvamp> how do i reconfigure xorg.conf?
[06:42] <morphius_> How can I get rid of this error: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[06:43] <lettuce_> I just reinstalled kubuntu, and browsing the web is slow. I remember that there's a quick way to fix it but I forget how, help please :(
[06:43] <morphius_> try disabling ipv6
[06:43] <chemicalvamp> ahouls i Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[06:44] <lettuce_> thank you
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> !ipv6
[06:45] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:02] <dani> hy i use the kclean to wipe junk files but now my fiesty won't boot
[07:03] <JackPhil> if konsole scrolled, the screen will not be refreshed clearly
[07:04] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to view video RAM size?
[07:04] <JackPhil> is it about fonts?
[07:06] <darryl> in redhat I can send email using mail command - in Kubuntu this command seems to be missing - what is the command to send emali from comand line
[07:06] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: 'free -m'
[07:06] <fdoving> chemicalvamp: you can also do 'cat /proc/meminfo' for more info.
[07:07] <Doctor_Nick> matt damon wont stop calling her
[07:08] <fdoving> darryl: it's in the 'mailx' package.
[07:08] <darryl> fdoving: thanks
[07:09] <Grape_Juice> Don't forget mailutils. :)
[07:10] <Grape_Juice> Those are handy...
[07:10] <fdoving> off to work. bye,.,
[07:12] <chemicalvamp> fdoving i dont see my video on there, but thanks
[07:21] <chemicalvamp> There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.
[07:21] <premier_> hello, I'm trying to get my computer to execute a shell script everytime I press the Multimedia play pause button, but its giving me a lot of greif
[07:22] <premier_> when I press the button, I get a little box in the upper right hand corner of the screen, which says:
[07:23] <danikhan> hy
[07:23] <premier_> "XF86AudioPause" over and over again.  I can click on it and it will do different things, none of them being things I want them to do
[07:26] <premier_> also, I can't play or pause music, or mute, or anything, when the screen is locked-- I assume that the screen locker prevents amarok from recieving my multimedia keys.  Is there a way around this?
[07:28] <david_> Hi.... I'm trying to get WINE working and it's not letting me browse files or add a virtual C drive.... not sure what do do... I even re-installed it.. same thing
[07:29] <premier_> david_ what do you mean?  What are you trying to do?
[07:29] <supergimp> anyone know how to "poke" open arena through my guarddog firewall?
[07:29] <david_> I just want to use wine to install a program... I open Wine Configuration... Then I select drives to add a C drive because it tells me I don't have one... But when I apply one, it forgets when I re-open it.
[07:30] <david_> And I can't browse for the file I want to install, because Wine shows a blank browse box
[07:30] <supergimp> have you tries the wine browser?
[07:31] <david_> Umm....
[07:31] <supergimp> cediega is much easy to install windows programs anyways
[07:31] <david_> Really?  I didn't know there was another option... Can I install cediega from adept?
[07:32] <supergimp> i know im spelling the name wrong lol
[07:32] <supergimp> let me look
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> david_, no, you have to actually pay for cedega
[07:32] <david_> ahh well....
[07:33] <david_> I'm not sure why wine is being so finickey... I got it to work on other installations.
[07:34] <david_> LOL- I just found cedega on a piratebay search... is that ethical? lol
[07:35] <supergimp> stfu and just do it
[07:35] <david_> k
[07:35] <Lynoure> david_: if you have to ask, you pretty much know the answer...
[07:36] <david_> yeah
[07:37] <supergimp> ok 1 problem solved on to me, anyone use guarddog firewall?
[07:38] <supergimp> and play open arena..?
[07:38] <Lynoure> 15 dollars, including 3 months of support and 3 votes on where the development will go is not very expensive. Less expensive than most games to be run on it
[07:38] <tilde> Is the Kubuntu upgrade tool supposed to be this slow? (downloading at about 500-1000b/s)
[07:39] <supergimp> tilde, go to manage sources then manually pick your dowload server or choose pick best server for me
[07:39] <supergimp> under adept
[07:40] <tilde> Yeah...I got the "there's a new release" button, and now the upgrade tool is downloading packages...taking forever...
[07:41] <james__> Where's the Ubuntu tsk mgr?
[07:41] <supergimp> this is kubuntu?
[07:41] <james__> yes
[07:41] <supergimp> go ask in kubuntu
[07:42] <james__> It is
[07:42] <james__> "#kubuntu"
[07:42] <supergimp> lol ubuntu
[07:42] <james__> x.x; shhhhhhh
[07:43] <supergimp> look in your start menu
[07:43] <supergimp> its around there somewere
[07:46] <tilde> sg -- thanks...can I just kill the upgrade while it's in the download phase without worrying?
[07:47] <mrdlouisd> i got ahold of some icons i really like, how do you go about making a folder for them and installing them?
[07:47] <mrdlouisd> tutorials are fine i dont know where to find them
[07:56] <seraph> hi all
[07:57] <seraph> I upgraded to Feisty and now I can't mount any USB drives
[07:57] <seraph> I've tried all four of my drives and none work
[07:57] <fadingblack> Hey Everyone i'm pretty new to linux and i recently started using beryl, but for some reason my Desktop cube stopped working. I have tried to Change the settings through the manager but They have no effect...Help?
[07:57] <seraph> I searched through the bug db and found someting that applied to the beta but it wasn't resolved...
[07:58] <seraph> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/98751
[07:58] <seraph> that's the bug
[07:58] <seraph> anyone know of a workaround for this?
[07:59] <blenheim> My Feisty Fawn don't like to communicate with sata2 systems... Where's the problem?
[07:59] <seraph> it really does seem like a critical bug
[07:59] <chemicalvamp_> anybody know what would cause my computer to just freeze up?
[07:59] <seraph> chemicalvamp_: could be any number ofthings
[07:59] <seraph> power supply failing, overheating, hardware failing
[07:59] <seraph> etc.
[07:59] <seraph> bad RAM
[07:59] <fadingblack> any solutions to my cube crisis?
[07:59] <blenheim> depens on what are you doing when freezes
[08:00] <blenheim> so many questions and no answers :)
[08:00] <chemicalvamp_> blenheim chatting on gaim + reading www.bash.org + listening to amarok
[08:00] <chemicalvamp_> + downloading on amule
[08:00] <blenheim> can you see your temps from mboard and processor?
[08:01] <chemicalvamp_> huh?
[08:01] <blenheim> What kind of hardware you have in your case?
[08:01] <blenheim> and which power supply
[08:01] <chemicalvamp_> laptop
[08:01] <blenheim> ok
[08:02] <blenheim> well, makes things interesting :P
[08:02] <fadingblack> although i've changed my settings to reset my cube it wont even let me unfold it...it's almost as if it doesnt exist
[08:02] <chemicalvamp_> its new to me.. i dont know why its doing it..
[08:02] <chemicalvamp_> once after a crash i logged in under 640x480@60
[08:02] <blenheim> I've put my guess to faulty power supply
[08:03] <nonuda> !qemu
[08:03] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:03] <chemicalvamp_> had to reconfigure xorg.conf, but i guess it didnt help
[08:03] <supergimp> anyone use guard dog firewall & play games help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423612
[08:03] <chemicalvamp_> this laptop is brand new, with battery
[08:03] <fadingblack> sometime's you can get factory defect cords
[08:03] <fadingblack> it's quite common
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> my battery is full.. how could it be the cord
[08:04] <fadingblack> what does it do when it crashes? does it just shut off, or do you get the blue screen?
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> and if it was power related wouldnt it power off completely?
[08:04] <chemicalvamp_> it feezes my screen
[08:05] <chemicalvamp_> and music.. broken record effect
[08:05] <fadingblack> how much memory do you have on your hard drive remaining
[08:05] <fadingblack> space**
[08:05] <chemicalvamp_> 62.1gb
[08:06] <fadingblack> remaining?
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> yup free
[08:06] <fadingblack> wow
[08:06] <fadingblack> What's the model
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> of hdd?
[08:06] <fadingblack> no of the notebook
[08:06] <chemicalvamp_> gateway mx6426
[08:07] <chemicalvamp_> 80gb total
[08:07] <fadingblack> what version of linux are you running?
[08:08] <chemicalvamp_> edgy all updates
[08:08] <FireTalon> anyone know of any apps for linux that show a directory of online tv stations then let you watch them?
[08:08] <fadingblack> sorry what distribution?
[08:08] <fadingblack> oh ok
[08:08] <chemicalvamp_> edgy 6.10
[08:08] <fadingblack> Hmm...
[08:09] <chemicalvamp_> wonder if i remade my kernel if it would help?
[08:09] <chemicalvamp_> i still use the generic one
[08:10] <fadingblack> probably not
[08:10] <fadingblack> i think it's a hardware problem not a software
[08:10] <chemicalvamp_> never had a problem before
[08:10] <fakepatriot> the only thing i can think of is that maybe you haven't installed the drivers for your graphics card
[08:11] <chemicalvamp_> i remember seeing "ERROR" in updates.. but sudo apt-get -f install didnt do anything
[08:12] <fadingblack> did you recently install Java?
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> yes for azureus client, but it never would load for me, so i uninstalled it
[08:13] <dxdt> how is Kubuntu Fiesty does it have stuff like the codec installer and things available?
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> i bet i still have packages left over from not doing auo-remove
[08:13] <dxdt> I guess my real question  is, in my experience Ubuntu is usually more polished than Kubuntu and I'm wondering if that is still the case
[08:14] <chemicalvamp> dxdt play an mp3 on amerok and it installs the codec.. that what you mean>