[12:11] <lucky_> but I got linux (me neeb)
[12:11] <lucky_> oops
[12:11] <lucky_> ya see
[12:11] <lucky_> I dont get any of this
[12:12] <lucky_> im such a noob
[12:12] <Kheldoron> hehe.. i hardly do either
[12:12] <lucky_> you seem like you know alot
[12:12] <zodiak> Kheldoron: what do you need?
[12:13] <caraquer> HI, somebody has installed the openofiice in kubuntu 64??
[12:13] <lupine_85> it works fine
[12:13] <lupine_85> should be installed ootb actually
[12:13] <zodiak> It comes by default with edgy.
[12:13] <lucky_> no to be rude or some rapist or somthin but how old r you guys?
[12:13] <Kheldoron> zodiak: well.. the networkcard seems to be working fine. but i cant find where to enter wep and where i can choose wich network to connect to
[12:13] <caraquer> I have 6.06
[12:14] <zodiak> KHeldoron:  Are you using Gnome or KDE?
[12:14] <Kheldoron> skde
[12:14] <Kheldoron> kde
[12:14] <zodiak> use knetworkmanager
[12:14] <lucky_> any one want to answer my noobish question?
[12:14] <zodiak> It is AWESOME.  IT will store your WEP/WPA info in kwallet (I use blank password for kwallet, that way I don't get prompted).
[12:14] <caraquer> KDE
[12:14] <Kheldoron> ok.. ill try it.. be back soon..
[12:14] <zodiak> lucky_ what is your question?
[12:15] <lucky_> how old r u guys
[12:15] <jobless__> Digital_Pioneer .. i got some help there ..! thanks a lot
[12:15] <zodiak> lucky_  I hardly see why it matters.  That has nothing to do with the channel topic and/or purpose.
[12:15] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless__: Sure, LOL. I didn't do anything. :)
[12:15] <lucky_> well exactly its a noobish question....
[12:15] <zodiak> Some of the best help I have ever gotten was from 12 year olds who have been plugging away with linux....
[12:16] <caraquer> What i need install for run openoffice in kubuntu 64 6.06??
[12:16] <lucky_> I just want to know so im not talking to some rapist...
[12:16] <gnomefreak> caraquer: install openoffice.org
[12:17] <lucky_> so I just got linux a week ago I think and I want to know if they have a sims 2 for linux.
[12:17] <zodiak> caraquer: in console type sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[12:17] <bobbyd> lucky_: you may need to look at wine or cedega
[12:18] <bobbyd> lucky_: and, um, I'm not a rapist
[12:18] <lucky_> never said you were
[12:18] <lucky_> but whats Wine or Cedega?
[12:18] <bobbyd> lucky_: :)
[12:19] <lupine_85> lucky_: no sims2 for linux, and neither wine or cedega work. sorry
[12:19] <lupine_85> sims 1 works
[12:19] <lucky_> oh
[12:19] <bobbyd> lucky_: wine is an API layer to allow linux to run windows apps, cedega is a commercial project that uses the wine code and adds better directX compatibility
[12:19] <lucky_> well i heard about this thing....
[12:20] <lucky_> that you can use to run windows kinda on top of linux
[12:20] <steveire> lupine_85: How do I use poll to check files?
[12:20] <steveire> I don't have any executable called poll
[12:21] <ml2> to make the most use of wine, one need a windows license for the device, where wine is running on
[12:21] <lupine_85> it's a method, not an executable. You'd write a bash script to implement the principle
[12:21] <ml2> most forget this
[12:21] <lupine_85> windows--
[12:21] <lucky_> ok i dont get a word oyu said
[12:21] <lupine_85> lucky_: wine pretends to be windows
[12:21] <lucky_> oh i geti t
[12:22] <lucky_> so can i run the sims on that?
[12:22] <lupine_85> no
[12:22] <lupine_85> VMWare will let you run (real) windows in linux, but there's no 3D hardware support to speak of
[12:22] <lucky_> i see...
[12:23] <lucky_> well i just have to run it on a computer that orgianlly has windows
[12:23] <ml2> there is limited 3D support for a guest os
[12:23] <ml2> it's coming
[12:23] <lupine_85> not enough to get sims 2 running, I bet ;)
[12:24] <ml2> cedega should be able to get it running
[12:24] <ml2> transgaming
[12:24] <lucky_> I put this new hardrive in cant remeber what it is but I have 300 GB now um what exactly can I download on linux that could enable me to lets see have a substitute for it
[12:24] <nkRush> how do I get konversation to start minimized to the tray?
[12:24] <steveire> lupine_85: Cheers. Looks like I can use this if I can figure it out.
[12:24] <steveire> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-select.html
[12:25] <lucky_> (the sims 2)
[12:25] <ubuntu__> Hola a to2
[12:27] <Chousuke> oh no. foreign leetspeak :(
[12:27] <lupine_85> lucky_: there isn't really anything AFAIK
[12:27] <Chousuke> ubuntu__: english only, please.
[12:27] <hollywoodb> !es | ubuntu__
[12:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:30] <letalis> lucky_: there isnt a port of sims 2 for linux
[12:31] <letalis> it doesnt run on cedega primarily because of the way sims 2 probes the video hardware
[12:32] <letalis> until transgaming gets cedega to where it can 'trick' sims 2's probing procedure im afraid sims 2 will not function
[12:35] <ml2> letalis: transgaming is working with game developers to make even copy protection work on linux
[12:35] <ml2> that means, you need an original sims2 game cd
[12:36] <letalis> i have the collectors edition
[12:36] <letalis> and i read a post by a developer at cedega
[12:36] <letalis> stating why it doesnt work
[12:37] <letalis> and it makes sense, sims 2 probes the hardware at startup to find an optimal configuration, since cedega is tricking the system into thinking its something its not sims 2 blows chunks and dies.
[12:37] <letalis> :)
[12:37] <letalis> thus you get a garbled screen when it loads up
[12:38] <letalis> most copy protections work in cedega sincethe 5.x series
[12:38] <letalis> thats not the issue
[12:41] <ml2> ahh, ich seh schon
[12:41] <ml2> ist ne komplexeres problem
[12:41] <ml2> da hilft nur windows nutzen fr sims 2
[12:42] <ml2> und zwar win2k oder xp
[12:42] <ml2> zumal die ati treiber unter windows viel schneller sind als unter linux
[12:42] <ml2> oops, I forgot, this was an english channel
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !de
[12:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:43] <letalis> lol
[12:43] <BluesKaj> !nl
[12:43] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:44] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> that should cover it
[12:44] <ml2> ahh, I see. it is a more complex problem. only win2k or xp works with sims 2. particularly ati the drivers help to use under windows are many faster than under linux
[12:44] <ml2> more or less well translated
[12:45] <letalis> well the probe is a hardware probe
[12:45] <ml2> BluesKaj: it's that in my memory, there is no flag for the language
[12:45] <letalis> since cedega doesnt allow direct access to the card as its a directx to opengl translation layer it doesnt know what to do with what it gets from the hardware probe
[12:46] <BluesKaj> not really ml2, the fglrx ati driver works very well
[12:46] <ml2> it's woven and the memory changes between german and english, i cannot remember the language spoken or written
[12:46] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:48] <osh_> how do I update katapult so it sees newly installed applications?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> osh_: restart it?
[12:51] <osh_> gnomefreak: unfortunatly not. :-/
[12:51] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[12:52] <osh_> gnomefreak: I thought so too. Or perhaps it just won't start gnome-apps like workrave. A bit of KDE vs Gnome rivalry there...
[12:52] <gnomefreak> osh_: it might only work with qt apps
[12:53] <hollywoodb> osh_: katapult isn't very intelligent to begin with... no matter how I try to get it to launch firefox it insists on launching this "Customize Firefox" page
[12:53] <osh_> hollywoodb: yep. use "web" to start firefox... =)
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: Well, I don't think so. Firefox works...
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: That's pretty tightly knit to gnome I think.
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: or the gnome libs anyway.
[12:55] <osh_> hollywoodb: I. That's what I was going to say _I_ use "web" to start firefox.
[01:03] <nkRush> what's the proper way to install flash on kubuntu, via adept or directly in firefox?
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> nkRush: if you want flash9 you need to do it manually
[01:03] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: nope theres repo
[01:03] <gnomefreak> !flash9
[01:03] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> I don't like anything from repos other than the 4 official ones
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> (pretty easy to do it manually)
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> - I suppose w32codecs I have but that is it
[01:04] <nkRush> well, if I do it manually will it be able to update itself?
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> No
[01:08] <letalis> source baby.
[01:08] <letalis> :D
[01:09] <hollywoodb> anyone having seveas repo working for edgy?  I can search it and such, but when I try to actually *use* it to fetch & install a package I get "403 forbidden"
[01:12] <nkRush> the flash package just installed fine
[01:13] <hollywoodb> I guess Seveas doesn't like me :)
[01:14] <nkRush> hmm ^^
[01:18] <weedar> My bar disappeared! The one with the K on it
[01:19] <weedar> how do I get it back? I can alt+tab but that gets old fast
[01:20] <steveire> weedar: alt+f2 and type kicker
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> ACPT Compliant - what is this ?
[01:24] <weedar> steveire: thanks!
[01:24] <hollywoodb> Alter-Ego: acpi or acpt ?
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> acpt
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> weedar: odd, i had the same problem with edgy a week ago
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> then my installation borked
[01:26] <Jucato> when was the nvidia-glx update made available?
[01:28] <Jucato> hm.. Hawkwind: ping ?
[01:29] <Jucato> how do I downgrade a package to previous version? the nvidia-glx update kinda messed up
[01:32] <lucky_> so I just downloaded GIMP and have no idea how to use it? can anyone give me quick walk through
[01:33] <Jucato> lucky_: just install it from the repositories (Adept, or apt-get) and once it's installed, you can launch it from the K Menu
[01:33] <lucky_> I went to the add and remove programs is that ok?
[01:34] <Jucato> yep
[01:34] <Jucato> abattoir: ping
[01:34] <lucky_> good so how do I use it now
[01:35] <Jucato> lucky_: launch it from the K Menu -> Graphics sub-menu
[01:35] <lucky_> I am allready there I mean really how to work it you know make stuff
[01:36] <nkRush> oh boy =D
[01:36] <Jucato> ah, well, that's beyond what we cover here. there are lots of onlinu tutorials for the GIMP
[01:36] <Jucato> I think there's also a #gimp channel, not exactly sure
[01:36] <lucky_> eh...
[01:36] <lucky_> oh
[01:37] <coreymon77> yes there is
[01:37] <coreymon77> but its unofficial
[01:37] <Jucato> oh
[01:37] <coreymon77> the official one is on irc.gimp.org
[01:37] <lucky_> i made a horse
[01:37] <Jucato> coreymon77: where does that server connect to? I believe it just redirects to some other server
[01:38] <Jucato> just like irc.ubuntu.com redirects to irc.freenode.net
[01:38] <coreymon77> connect to irc.gimp.org
[01:38] <coreymon77> i think its gimps own thing
[01:38] <Jucato> hm...
[01:38] <lucky_> im confuzzled
[01:38] <lucky_> you cant stay on the same subject for so long well fo you people you can...
[01:39] <hollywoodb> lucky_: there are lots of GIMP tutorials, just google
[01:39] <coreymon77> so go on to #gimp on freenode
[01:39] <coreymon77> and they will give you all the instructions
[01:39] <lucky_> ok tried that
[01:39] <lucky_> nothing
[01:40] <lucky_> its lagging
[01:41] <Jucato> lucky_: well, this it #kubuntu, a support channel for specific Kubuntu problems, not for how to use the GIMP
[01:41] <lucky_> i see...
[01:42] <lucky_> so this may be a little of subject but where can i find chatrooms with differents subjects like black history
[01:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Pong :)
[01:43] <Jucato> heheh
[01:43] <Hawkwind> lucky_: /msg chanserv list *search-term*
[01:43] <Hawkwind> lucky_: Make sure you use the *'s and replace search-term appropriately
[01:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: how do I downgrade to an earlier version of a package?
[01:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hmmmm, probably have to do apt-pinning
[01:43] <lucky_> where do i put the text?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> lucky_: Between the * *'s
[01:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: a security update for nvidia-glx was made available, but I can't run X anymore after updating... :(
[01:44] <Hawkwind> lucky_: /msg chanserv list *black*  <~~~Example
[01:44] <Jucato> wb abattoir
[01:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ahhhh, that's why I use the drivers directly from nvidia.com :)
[01:44] <lucky_> so confuzzled
[01:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You could remove it, and install it manually
[01:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: but disable edgy-security repos?
[01:44] <lucky_> but I clicked on my user name and I made some kind of tab...
[01:45] <Jucato> linux-restricted-modules was also updated, would that be a problem?
[01:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Probably
[01:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Possibly so, yes
[01:45] <Jucato> ouch...
[01:46] <hollywoodb> when did google/ask.com/dogpile/yahoo/excite/msn/infoseek/altavista/vivismo/metacrawler/lycos/webcrawler/alltheweb/profusion go down?
[01:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ok this is plain weird...
[01:46] <Jucato> hold on...
[01:46] <lucky_> any one wanna answer my question?
[01:47] <Hawkwind> lucky_: I've missed your question relating to Kubuntu
[01:47] <lucky_> well actually it has to do with the chatroom I made i clicked on my name and it made a extra tab
[01:48] <Jucato> lucky_: that extra tab is a private message window. basically you PM'ed yourself
[01:48] <nkRush> [01:44:03]  <Jucato> Hawkwind: a security update for nvidia-glx was made available, but I can't run X anymore after updating... :( << check your xorg.conf device section against a backup (if you have ;), it screwed up the busid for me by switching two numbers
[01:48] <lucky_> thats just peachy...
[01:48] <lucky_> how do i make it dissapear
[01:49] <Jucato> lucky_: you can close it. right-click on the tab and select close or press Ctrl+W
[01:49] <lucky_> oh
[01:49] <lucky_> (Im such a noob)
[01:50] <lucky_> well anyway...im gonna go I dont understand this computer talk so I'm going to some chatroom to argue with the locals about amendment 2 or black history bye.
[01:50] <Jucato> nkRush, Hawkwind: something strange. I removed nvidia-glx and tried to install it again (edgy-security still enabled), now it wants to install linux-image- and linux-restricted-modules- 2.6.17-10-386. It didn't do so earlier during the update/dist-upgrade...
[01:51] <Jucato> besides, I'm using the -generic stuff... let's see what happens...
[01:52] <Jucato> this is not a great way to start the day :P
[01:52] <nkRush> and that's the point where I put on a clean edgy install =P
[01:52] <Jucato> lol
[01:52] <hollywoodb> the 'nv' driver is significantly less hassle
[01:53] <Jucato> nkRush: if it doesn't work, all I want to do is to revert to the earlier version of nvidia-glx
[01:53] <Jucato> hollywoodb: no 3D h/w acceleration though...
[01:53] <hollywoodb> Jucato: nope... clean and simple, like it should be!
[01:53] <hollywoodb> Jucato: in my day we were happy to have an X server! TWM was just icing on the cake!
[01:54] <Jucato> hollywoodb: "like it should be!" - tell that to someone who needs to do graphics and 3D work
[01:54] <hollywoodb> heh
[01:54] <Jucato> hollywoodb: believe me, I wouldn't be installing nvidia-glx if I didn't need to. or if nv has 3D h/w acceleration in the first place...
[01:55] <Jucato> hm... brb... quick breakfast... (
[01:55] <simmerz> I've just installed edgy on my laptop, and I'm trying to get my netgear wg511t card (ath_pci) working. Its found the card, and loaded the modules, but for some reason, I can't get it to do anything with the wireless assistant. any ideas?
[02:01] <hollywoodb> simmerz: wireless assistant is kinda broken
[02:02] <simmerz> hollywoodb: ok. I've just tried to restart /etc/init.d/networking and it can't find the ath0 device.
[02:03] <BluesKaj> can anyone tell me the procedure to setup a network sharing files with a windos pc ?...already have the network printer setup
[02:03] <win2lin> I can't mount a CD in my DVD drive in Edgy
[02:03] <hollywoodb> simmerz: madwifi?
[02:04] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: which way do you want to go. Connect linux to windows or windows to linux
[02:04] <simmerz> hollywoodb: can i install it off the livecd?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> both, robotgeek
[02:04] <hollywoodb> simmerz: doubt it
[02:04] <hollywoodb> simmerz: is it madwifi driver?
[02:04] <simmerz> hollywoodb: apparently, although ath_pci is loaded.
[02:05] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: you can connect to a windows share from linux, or setup a samba (windows) share on linux.
[02:05] <hollywoodb> simmerz: there's a few madwifi howto's on the forums... I haven't dealt with madwifi on debian/ubuntu myself
[02:05] <BluesKaj> lets start with linux to windows , robotgeek
[02:06] <simmerz> ok
[02:06] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: in Kde, click on the places thing (icon right next to K-Menu)
[02:06] <robotgeek> click samba shares, and if you have sharing enabled, it shoould popup there
[02:07] <BluesKaj> just tell me what it;s name is ..places thing?
[02:07] <win2lin> When I try to mount a CD it says "no medium found".  This same CD works in a Windows PC and even in this PC with a WIndows drive.
[02:07] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: lemme try to find it somewhere else, second
[02:08] <Jucato> how strange... very strange...
[02:08] <BluesKaj> I found it , remote places?
[02:08] <hollywoodb> win2lin: grep media /etc/fstab
[02:08] <hollywoodb> win2lin: what's the output of that?
[02:09] <win2lin> I guess I can always delete Linux and go back to Windows since Windows will read CDs
[02:09] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, remote places ...found it
[02:09] <hollywoodb> win2lin: nevermind then
[02:10] <win2lin> hollywoodb, OK, I'll try your suggestions first.
[02:10] <Random_Transit> Does anyone here use Nvu?
[02:10] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: does it popup?
[02:10] <win2lin> hollywoodb, where do I post the output?
[02:10] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, smb:/ ?
[02:11] <hollywoodb> win2lin: at that link ^^
[02:11] <robotgeek> yup. it should search and popup something there
[02:11] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  it's just 3 lines:  line 1:  /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:11] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  line 2  /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:11] <BluesKaj> I have Home Network and MSHome , robotgeek
[02:12] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  line 3  /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:12] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: chekc both, depends on what workgroups you have setup.
[02:12] <hollywoodb> win2lin: so you have two CD/DVD drives and neither of them will read CDs ?
[02:12] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  BINGO
[02:13] <lucky_> OK I am back so how do you get to another chatroom that doesnt talk bout computer stiff
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  one says "no medium found"
[02:15] <hollywoodb> win2lin: are you trying to mount an audio CD ?
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  one says mount point "/media/cdrom does not exist"
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  any CD
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Mshome shows this pc , home network is empty.. robotgeek
[02:16] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: do you have some kind of sharing setup on the windows PC?
[02:16] <lucky_> anyone gonna answer my queston
[02:16] <hollywoodb> win2lin: well, you shouldn't have to use the 'mount' command, and if you do use it, just use 'mount /dev/hda' for example, the rest of the info it needs is right there in /etc/fstab
[02:16] <robotgeek> lucky_: #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <simmerz> hollywood: madwifi is already installed. and the module is loaded. but i can't see ath0 anywhere
[02:17] <BluesKaj> yes , already have the network setup in windows . robotgeek
[02:17] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: hmm, how comfy are you with the command line?
[02:17] <lucky_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  I'm using that and I'm using the GNOME EDGY MOUNTER
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used command line quite a bit
[02:18] <hollywoodb> win2lin: not familiar with Gnome's setup in ubuntu, this is #kubuntu ;)
[02:18] <thill2708> anyone know the default version of qt installed with kubuntu edgy?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used command line quite a bit , robotgeek
[02:18] <win2lin> hollywoodb: yeah, I tried #UBUNTU but they just ignored me for the most part
[02:19] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install smbclient
[02:19] <win2lin> hollywoodb, anyway, it's not a U vs KU issue, it's a Linux or Edgy problem.
[02:19] <Jucato> win2lin: maybe no one's available to answer at the moment
[02:19] <win2lin> jucato, no they asked questions, which I answered, and then they just moved on to help others
[02:20] <BluesKaj> smbclient ia already the newest version... robotgeek
[02:20] <Jucato> win2lin: try asking again. such is the nature of IRC support. it's easy to get distracted
[02:20] <hollywoodb> win2lin: not necessarily, KDE has different mechanisms for mounting media, it gives you a popup dialog as soon as you put a disc in and goes from there based on whether its a blank cd, audio cd, data cd, dvd, etc... but 'mount /dev/hda' should work if the disc is in the right drive
[02:21] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: okay, try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29#head-f6f0613872856cc6151c6ae74ff8c72f70f241a2
[02:21] <win2lin> hollywoodb, I put good known working program CDs in both drives.
[02:22] <win2lin> hollywoodb, how do I fix the /media/cdrom1 does not exist error?
[02:22] <jerp> an Adept Manager entry in Discriptions: "Legacy package for openh323gk that you should remove.  This package exists to smooth the transition from openh323gk to the renamed gnugk package. It can be safely removed."   Question:  How is the removal done if it's not installed?
[02:23] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: i followed that guide about 3 hours ago, i dont have windows at home though
[02:23] <Jucato> win2lin: check if it exists. it's a folder in /media
[02:24] <win2lin> jucato:  nope.  I have CDROM and CDROM0
[02:24] <Jucato> win2lin: how many CD/DVD drives do you have?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> that's gnome desktop stuff, robotgeek ...not familiar with it
[02:25] <Jucato> jerp: don't worry, I won't...:P
[02:25] <jerp> :)
[02:25] <win2lin> jucato, 2
[02:25] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: only the part about smbfs
[02:26] <Jucato> win2lin: and the other one mounts normally?
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  do i need to remap it in my /etc/fstab file?
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  neither one works
[02:26] <simmerz> wlanconfig doesn't exist anywhere!
[02:26] <Jucato> win2lin: try making the cdrom1 directory first. "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1"
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  one says "no medium found" and the other says "mount point /media/cdrom1 does not exist"
[02:27] <Jucato> win2lin: creating the cdrom1 dir might solve the second error
[02:27] <christopher> is there some way to change the ammount alsamixer changes the speaker volume? My alsamixer only goes to about 30 percent
[02:28] <christopher> err, mixer
[02:28] <christopher> alsa mixer will go to 100
[02:28] <win2lin> jucato:  now i get the "no medium found" on both drives
[02:29] <Jucato> oh...
[02:30] <Jucato> Question: has anyone experience this: Konqueror is set to open new tabs instead of new windows. clicking on links in Konversation opens new tabs. but clicking on links in Akregator and KMail opens new windows... didn't happen in KDE 3.5.4 afaik
[02:34] <hollywoodb> Jucato: Akregator opens a tab inside akregator in my case... I don't use kmail
[02:34] <Jucato> hollywoodb: oh sorry, I meant middle-clicking in Akregator (which is supposed to open an external browser)
[02:34] <Jucato> In Dapper (KDE 3.5.4), it opens a new tab in Konqueror instead of a new window... now, it seems that it's not following Konqueror's settings...
[02:36] <hollywoodb> Jucato: ah, well I have firefox set as KDE default browser, but middle-click opens in a new tab in firefox if a ff window is already open
[02:36] <Jucato> hm... strange.. thanks anyway!
[02:38] <Jucato> hollywoodb: ok... Kopete also doesn't seem to follow... only Konversation does...
[02:38] <ubuntu_> hola
[02:39] <ubuntu_> soy nuevo..
[02:39] <Jucato> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:39] <ubuntu_> hi, i am noob
[02:40] <hollywoodb> Jucato: maybe its just konqueror settings, perhaps it isn't set to open new links in tabs ?
[02:40] <dude_> hi guys
[02:40] <Jucato> it's set to open new links in tabs, and to open in tabs if called externally (from another app)... like I said, this worked perfectly in KDE 3.5.4 (or in Dapper)...
[02:40] <dude_> abattoir !
[02:40] <Jucato> of to find a bug report...
[02:40] <Jucato> hi dude_
[02:41] <dude_> jucato !
[02:50] <BluesKaj> trying to use komba2 samba browser to access files on my windows network pc..."smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user"
[02:55] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, i have my network showing in komba2  , but it won't allow me to mount any files  ... "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user"
[03:00] <rhodri> hi, i'm having a "problem" with vi (though it could just be i don't know what i'm doing).  when i am in insert mode and press an arrow key a character gets inserted instead of the cursor moving? it never did this before i used edgy, so is it a problem or is it some kind of config setting?
[03:01] <|mp|> i have an external firewire disk that does not automount (or show up at all), it is connected through a PCMCIA card - what to do?
[03:02] <|mp|> the card is recognised: FireWire (IEEE 1394): NEC Corporation IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 01)
[03:02] <peter_> a
[03:20] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heloo everyone
[03:20] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how has your night been ?
[03:20] <Jucato> restless...
[03:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> fair enough, why is that Jucato
[03:22] <Jucato> coughing in the middle of the night...
[03:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe, its alright that is something that goes by quickly
[03:45] <digivore> where do themes live in kubuntu?
[03:46] <Jucato> digivore: which kind of themes?
[03:46] <Healot> digivore: somewhere in /usr/share for KDE themes
[03:46] <Jucato> well, depends on what kind of "theme"
[03:47] <digivore> i downloaded one from kde-look.org   it comes with 3 folders
[03:47] <digivore> i'm guessing i don't use the theme manager in kcontrol for this kind.
[03:48] <Jucato> digivore: what kind of theme? there are .kth themes, deKorator themes, widget styles (need to be compiled), window decorations (need to be compiled), icon themes
[03:50] <digivore> it's a kde theme  and there was no obvious file extensions for a bundled theme...
[03:51] <Jucato> digivore: hm... can you give a link to what you downloaded? kde-look isn't really very clear on what it means by "theme"
[03:53] <digivore> hmm apparently it doesn't exist on there anymore...?  but i have the file!
[03:54] <Lamington> What doesn't exist ? A theme ? Is it good ?
[03:54] <Jucato> O_O
[03:55] <digivore> it was called dark knight    and it was theme number 48433
[03:55] <Jucato> digivore: you can take a peak inside the .tar.gz to get a clue. if it's something that needs to be compiled (widget Style or Window Decoration), it will have instructions
[03:55] <Lamington> How do I know its really good and you don't just have shockingly bad taste ? ;)
[03:55] <digivore> what is s QT curve scheme ?
[03:56] <digivore> Lamington: i never said it was good....  it was the first one on the list lastnight when i downloaded it.
[03:56] <Jucato> digivore: ah that's a scheme/theme for the QtCurve widget style (which you need to compile or install)
[03:56] <Lamington> digivore: ah k :)
[03:57] <digivore> ahhh   screw that..   whats the easiest kind of theme to install
[03:57] <Jucato> icon themes and color schemes
[03:57] <Jucato> digivore: there's a .deb for QtCurve floating around in kde-look.
[03:57] <digivore> do they usually come bundled together ?
[03:57] <Jucato> you can install that with no problems
[03:57] <digivore> where is a good place to get themes?
[03:58] <Jucato> icon themes and color schemes aren't bundled together
[03:58] <Jucato> KDE-Look is the best place to get stuff
[03:58] <digivore> ok
[03:59] <lucky_> hi
[03:59] <lucky_> um
[03:59] <lucky_> ya
[03:59] <lucky_> I have been banned
[03:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | digivore
[03:59] <ubotu> digivore: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:59] <digivore> thx
[03:59] <lucky_> by Hybryd
[04:00] <lucky_> because some guy knew all my information well my full name
[04:00] <lucky_> and could fine me
[04:00] <Jucato> lucky_: no one knows *all* your information
[04:04] <nalioth> lucky_: can we stick with support roles in here?
[04:05] <smaggard> brb
[04:08] <rbil> lucky_: join me in #luckychat
[04:09] <Jucato> rbil: good luck! :)
[04:09] <luca> hi everyone
[04:10] <luca> BIG problem with swap partition. I am unable to mount it :(
[04:11] <luca> I wonder if this explains why my RAM is always completely full....
[04:12] <hollywoodb> luca: how much RAM do you have?
[04:12] <luca> 512 mb, and 1 gb of swap
[04:12] <luca> which apparentely is not mounted
[04:13] <Jucato> luca: how are you sure it isn't mounted?
[04:13] <Healot> swapon
[04:13] <luca> qtparted first, then I tried to mount it manually
[04:14] <luca> and there are a pair of funny things about it
[04:15] <hollywoodb> luca: try 'sudo swapon -a'
[04:15] <luca> ok
[04:15] <Jucato> what funny things?
[04:15] <hollywoodb> luca: if it says 'device or resource busy', it's probably already mounted... swap doesn't show up via 'mount' command
[04:15] <luca> 1- it seems that the partition has TWO names
[04:15] <Jucato> btw, RAM will always be almost full, that's how Linux manages memory
[04:16] <luca>  /dev/hda4/ and /dev/hda5/
[04:16] <Healot> if the swap partition is not auto (or not even listed) in the fstab file, that might be one source of the problem
[04:16] <Jucato> luca: I'm guess that /dev/hda4 is the "marker" for an extended partition, and /dev/hda5 is the actual (logical) partition
[04:16] <luca> ok, when I tried to run sudo mount /dev/hda4 and 5 I gor these messages...now i will try the other command by the way, thanx :)
[04:17] <Jucato> you don't mount swap with "mount" command
[04:17] <luca> ehm hollywoodb...when I use your command:
[04:18] <luca> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/3d645edb-9b7b-45a3-a078-186d85e53020: Argomento non valido
[04:18] <luca> Argument not valid
[04:18] <luca> the last part
[04:18] <luca> and with mount...
[04:18] <luca> mount: unknown filesystem type 'swap'
[04:18] <greg> Hello.
[04:18] <luca> jucato: thanks for the explaination :)
[04:19] <Jucato> luca: are you sure you entered it exactly as "sudo swapon -a" ?
[04:19] <luca> yes I am
[04:19] <Jucato> hm..
[04:19] <greg> I had a box that was locking up all the time under 6.06.1.  Is there a credible technical reason to hope that 6.10.1 could offer better?
[04:20] <Jucato> greg: depends on what is causing the lockup (and it's 6.10, not 6.10.1)
[04:20] <greg> When I'd leave it alone for >30 mins, coming back, the box was in a stupor, the only remedy was a power-reboot.
[04:21] <Jucato> greg: do you have monitor power saving or hibernate enabled?
[04:21] <greg> Well, actually now I have knoppix on the box, and thinking about coming back to ku.
[04:21] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kaffeine says something about not finding a demux
[04:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when running avi file
[04:22] <Shaezsche>  is there a way to set a folder so only a specific user can view and access it?
[04:22] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[04:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it was running them fine 10min ago
[04:22] <Jucato> hm...
[04:22] <Jucato> Shaezsche: change the owner and group of the folder to that specific user, then change the permissions so that only the user can have read and write access to it
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes i do have them installed
[04:23] <Jucato> Shaezsche: right-click on the folder -> Properties -> Permissions tab
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: i got the codecs installed
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and the libxine-main1
[04:23] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: that was what the "hm..." was for...
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> installed
[04:24] <Jucato> you were able to play the same file earlier?
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heheh sorry
[04:24] <luca> any idea for the swap anyone? I have to go in little time :(
[04:24] <hollywoodb> greg: there's the kubuntu 6.10 live/install CD, so if it works well in livecd mode there's a pretty good chance it'll work when installed
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> different file
[04:24] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: ah... it could be using a different codec... or something...
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> maybe because the file has a very long name
[04:25] <Alter-Ego> how do i install a deb
[04:25] <luca> use gdebi
[04:25] <luca> or synaptic if it is in the repos
[04:25] <Jucato> luca: we're in Kubuntu, remember?
[04:25] <abattoir> Alter-Ego: 'sudo dpkg -i <file>
[04:25] <abattoir> Alter-Ego: 'sudo dpkg -i <file>'
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> thx
[04:26] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: right-click on the deb, select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> kubutu package manager has an old version
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> i want the newer version of the program i am downloading
[04:26] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: what do you mean?
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> gramps-2.2.2
[04:26] <luca> tell him to install it anyways
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> gramps-project.org
[04:27] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: I said right-click on the .deb file, then there will be a service menu that has "Kubuntu Package Menu"
[04:27] <Jucato> I'm not saying you install it using Adept
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> oh, ok
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> kewl
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> sorry
[04:27] <luca> and btw Jucato...I find that gdebi works much better than kubuntu package manager, in kubuntu :(
[04:27] <cpk1> how do you make an exact copy of a cd?
[04:27] <Th3_Cr0up13R> which bitorrent client is better to use
[04:27] <Jucato> luca: yes. the Kubuntu package menu I'm talking about is just a script
[04:27] <cpk1> would cp -rf work?
[04:27] <Jucato> they're planning to port gdebi to Kubuntu
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ktorrent , azureus,rtorrent,qtorrent  -- i got loads here im confused
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i just need one that does the job
[04:28] <Jucato> I have ktorrent. works well for me
[04:28] <luca> cpk1: k3b should be the one you look for
[04:28] <Jucato> KDE integration is a plus
[04:28] <luca> any idea for the swap?
[04:28] <cpk1> k3b keeps hanging on a file
[04:28] <luca> no idea then.
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato:  to me it says there is some kindof bug
[04:28] <hollywoodb> cpk1: if you're against using burning software, dd if=/dev/cdin of=/dev/cdout should work, if you use the correct /dev/ nodes ;)
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> not exactly what though
[04:29] <luca> I have to go in 2 minutes...please at least a thought :(
[04:29] <hollywoodb> cpk1: and they're UNmounted iirc
[04:29] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: what says there's some kind of bug?
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kde crash manager
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> something just terminates
[04:29] <cpk1> i am writing the iso to my hdd so could i do dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/home/cpk1/foo.iso?
[04:29] <Jucato> luca: in your fstab, check if the UUID for the swap entry/line matches the UUID of the partition you made for swap (presuming you are on Edgy?)
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it and when i rerun it it runs fine
[04:30] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: that's for KTorrent?
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> for a bit
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> then same again
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yep
[04:30] <Jucato> it must have something to do with what you're downloading
[04:31] <luca> Jucato: yes
[04:31] <luca> fstab was in etc, right?
[04:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> they are just martial arts avi files
[04:31] <Jucato> luca: yes
[04:31] <Jucato> !UUID | luca
[04:31] <ubotu> luca: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[04:31] <hollywoodb> cpk1: other way around... if=input of=output
[04:31] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: they might be corrupted or KTorrent seems them as corrupted. either way, it might be causing the crashes
[04:32] <hollywoodb> cpk1: oh wait, yeah you had it right
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ill wait until they are finished and ill try again
[04:32] <luca> the swap partition is seen as 'swsuspend'
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> probably because not all the packets have arrived yet
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and its being stupid
[04:32] <Jucato> luca: where? in fstab?
[04:32] <luca> no blkid
[04:32] <luca> and
[04:33] <draik> How do I continue my torrents that I had before?
[04:33] <luca> I cannot go to /etc/fstab/ o_O
[04:33] <draik> I have the files (partials) in one main folder
[04:33] <Jucato> draik: in KTorrent?
[04:33] <draik> yes
[04:33] <draik> Hey Jucato
[04:33] <Jucato> luca: why can't you go into /etc ?
[04:33] <Jucato> luca: fstab is a file, not a directory
[04:33] <luca> sorry
[04:33] <luca> just done ls, seen it
[04:34] <luca> # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:34] <luca> UUID=3d645edb-9b7b-45a3-a078-186d85e53020 none swap sw 0 0
[04:34] <Jucato> draik: Configure KTorrent,  Plugins, load the "partfileimportplugin", Apply and OK, then File -> Import existing download
[04:34] <luca> but to qtparted /dev/hda5/ is not swap...
[04:34] <draik> sweet, thanks Jucato
[04:34] <Jucato> luca: in blkid, what's the /dev/hda5 line?
[04:34] <luca> first AND last
[04:35] <Shaezsche> is there a way to HIDE a folder so that other users cannot even see the directory?
[04:35] <Jucato> no, I mean something like /dev/hdb3: UUID="dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d" TYPE="swap"
[04:35] <cpk1> ugh i still get an input/output error with dd
[04:35] <luca> no TYPE=swap
[04:35] <Jucato> luca: hm.. that's a problem then...
[04:35] <luca> and I have also to run in 30 secs :(
[04:35] <Jucato> luca: QtParted must have partitioned/formatted it wrong
[04:35] <cpk1> all i want is the roller coaster tycoon cd on my har drive so i dont have to put in a 170mB cd to play it!
[04:36] <luca> good!
[04:36] <hollywoodb> cpk1: maybe that's why k3b is having trouble as well
[04:36] <draik> Jucato: I don't have their torrents, just the data
[04:36] <luca> I will check it later I fear, I am late. Thanks a lot!!
[04:36] <Jucato> draik: you need the .torrent
[04:36] <cpk1> it is but i dont trust guis if they fail so then i go to the command line
[04:36] <luca> see you all and thanks
[04:36] <hollywoodb> cpk1: is it pretty scratched up?
[04:36] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: not really. it might not be hard to locate
[04:36] <CadaverPimp> I hope not Jucato
[04:37] <cpk1> a little, but it managed to install fine
[04:37] <hollywoodb> cpk1: well, cdparanoia is awesome at getting the data off of damaged CDs, but it takes a long time... iirc cdparanoia is just a library, so you need to find an application that is built with support for and uses cdparanoia
[04:37] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: the file im downloading is using xvid codec
[04:38] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it shouldnt be a problem right?
[04:38] <hollywoodb> cpk1: and I've only used cdparanoia with audio cds, I don't know if it supports *any* cd or if its designed with ripping audio
[04:38] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: shouldn't be
[04:39] <cpk1> well i cleaned the dust off it and am trying again (yes thats right it was dusty =P)
[04:40] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[04:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:40] <cpk1> yup it wa the dust lol
[04:40] <cpk1> it worked this time
[04:41] <hollywoodb> cpk1: heh... doesn't hurt to actually clean your drives once in a while either
[04:42] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I used to have one of those CDs with a brush on it, then I was told it can leave scratches on the lens.... these days I put a couple blasts out of those compressed air cans into them... which I usually do before bed with the system powered down until morning since every once in a while they'll spray a *little* bit of moisture
[04:43] <hollywoodb> seems like the lesser of two evils I guess
[04:43] <Jucato> I guess so... doesn't blasting the dust only scatters them?
[04:44] <hollywoodb> Jucato: well, I keep my systems pretty clean, nothing ever comes out and my cases have filters on them... but my parents' drive hit me in the face with a load of dust... twice... when I was peering into it while spraying
[04:44] <Jucato> ouch...
[04:44] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I suppose the "proper" way would be to remove the drive and take it out of its "shell", but that's just a lot of work :)
[04:45] <Jucato> yeah. not to mention taking the risk that it might not work properly when you put it back in :P
[04:45] <Dark_Vampire> Ive got a problem i guess
[04:45] <dooowweeedoo> hey guys i got a problem with kubuntu 6.10
[04:46] <hollywoodb> Jucato: right
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> it doesn't recognize my bluetooth keyboard
[04:46] <hollywoodb> dooowweeedoo: did it recognize it during the install ?
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> no idea, i used the iso on a disk, and then i chose to install
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> it went straight to the desktop
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> everything is working except the keyboard
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> the last time i sometimes got outloged of my system and i have to login again (and all windows are closed then), bevor that most time short the screen is dark or "Out of Range"
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> use dapper drake point on
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> one
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> does that come with kubuntu?
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> and how do i actually install kubuntu
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> i chose install, but it was more like a test
[04:49] <dooowweeedoo> ?
[04:51] <rbil> I suspect it's going to be pretty hard to install if you don't have a working keyboard :-)
[04:54] <hollywoodb> yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking
[05:03] <smaggard> hey everyone
[05:07] <justin1278> hello
[05:07] <justin1278> is there somebody available who can assist me?
[05:07] <unix_infidel> !ask
[05:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:08] <justin1278> Ok
[05:08] <justin1278> For some reason in Kubuntu when I go to storage medai
[05:08] <justin1278> media*
[05:08] <justin1278> I only see a folder that says CDRom
[05:09] <justin1278> none of my usr files or anything else are there.
[05:09] <justin1278> just that folder which is empty
[05:09] <justin1278> i am running Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
[05:10] <Hawkwind> !hidden-root | justin1278
[05:10] <ubotu> justin1278: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[05:11] <justin1278> ok i see
[05:11] <justin1278> thanks a lot guys
[05:12] <rbil> Sounds like Kubuntu Edgy is trying to be very much like Windoze :-(
[05:12] <justin1278> lol that is what i was thinking rbil
[05:13] <justin1278> lol
[05:13] <unix_infidel> Jucato: then go to work and fix it.
[05:13] <Jucato> unix_infidel: fix what?
[05:13] <unix_infidel> maybe you will have a US Dollar for everytime someone said that in here.
[05:14] <unix_infidel> to where its not "very much like windoze"
[05:14] <rbil> hehe
[05:14] <Jucato> oh
[05:14] <Jucato> :P
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys nice talking to you tonight
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> see you tomorrow
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> have fun ;)
[05:15] <justin1278> bye
[05:15] <justin1278> kinda slow in here tonight
[05:19] <smaggard_> anyone run an ltsp server in kubuntu?
[05:26] <hektik> hey in the edgy install, if i resize a partition with windows on it, will it erase the partition or just resize it without affecting those fiels ?
[05:27] <fribuntu> Hi
[05:28] <fribuntu> Is there a way to use encrypted filesystems for the home partition in (k)ubuntu?
[05:28] <fribuntu> I did not see any such options during the installation.
[05:32] <RobNyc> how can I set Konqueror identification to be IE 6 default on all ?
[05:33] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, would u know
[05:34] <IA-Outdoors> adept_manager hung on me so I had to kill it but when I run it again it thinks something else has it locked
[05:34] <IA-Outdoors> what do I need to do to fix?
[05:34] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: I don't use KDE, sorry
[05:34] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, i thought you used Kubuntu thats why you're here? cuz you said you cant stand gnome lol
[05:34] <RobNyc> so you're using Xubuntu?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: I use Kubuntu, but I use E17.  I've never used KDE
[05:35] <RobNyc> oh
[05:35] <RobNyc> alright
[05:36] <jobless_> guys i have a problem with my mouse.. the pointer acceleration does not increase though i change the setting..!
[05:36] <jobless_> hi abattoir
[05:39] <murchadh> IA-Outdoors: Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update, and see what output you get.
[05:41] <jobless_> !mouse
[05:41] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:41] <jobless_> !pointer
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <jobless_> !laptop
[05:41] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:44] <jobless_> !desktop
[05:44] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[05:45] <jobless_> !xps
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <jobless_> !dell
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <IceKnight> I was trying to install MUTE and it asked me to provide "full path to wxWindows wx-config script." My question is, where is that and why won't search commands find that.
[05:45] <jobless_> guys i have a problem with my mouse.. the pointer acceleration does not increase though i change the setting..!
[05:46] <RobNyc> !ati
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <murchadh> IceKnight: Try running your locate as root! eg sudo locate filename
[06:05] <lunitik> Anyone know how I might go about making my system sleep when its not doing anything? Like powersaving for the computer itself, not just the monitor?
[06:09] <plitskin> hi, is it now possible to save a file when you're using kubuntu on VMWAre?
[06:10] <lunitik> plitskin: VMware server... sure... player? no idea
[06:11] <plitskin> uhmm... player...
[06:11] <plitskin> I'm using Kubuntu on vmware player but when I tried saving a file...
[06:11] <plitskin> the next time I opened vmware it's gone...
[06:11] <unix_infidel> what's the fastest easiest way to transfer files from a guest to a host
[06:22] <main> hello all
[06:26] <main> hello
[06:29] <felixjet> is there anyway to downgrade to dapper? edgy SUCKS hard
[06:29] <lunitik> felixjet: what sucks about it that is better in Dapper?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> i'm interested in knowing too, maybe you have a blog entry about it?
[06:30] <felixjet> lunitik: all sucks, this is worst than windows. its going slowly as windows XP on a 486
[06:30] <smaggard_> edgy sucks?! how so?
[06:30] <Nuked> how do I enable composite?
[06:30] <smaggard_> works FINE on my setup
[06:30] <unix_infidel> i suppose i was wrong on both accounts.
[06:30] <felixjet> its always 45%+ of CPU
[06:30] <felixjet> when im doing nothing
[06:31] <felixjet> and even all app's for edgy sucks
[06:31] <smaggard_> Nuked> edit xorg.conf, i can pastebin it if you want..
[06:31] <felixjet> the upgrade **cked my configurations
[06:31] <smaggard_> hmm all work fine here
[06:31] <smaggard_> ooo you did an upgrade.. hmmm
[06:31] <Nuked> smaggard_: sure dude!
[06:31] <smaggard_> ok hold on let me pastebin it
[06:31] <Nuked> dist-upgraded=satan
[06:31] <lunitik> felixjet: other than reinstalling, no... there is no way
[06:31] <felixjet> pf :(
[06:32] <smaggard_> lol
[06:32] <Nuked> if your harddrive is 38 c is that bad?
[06:32] <felixjet> why its going so slowly? its like windows XP on a 486
[06:32] <smaggard_> Nuked> you mean add composite for your video card right? like in xorg.conf
[06:32] <lunitik> Nuked: thats about normal afaik
[06:32] <Nuked> yeah smaggard_
[06:32] <smaggard_> aight hold on
[06:32] <Nuked> lol thanks
[06:33] <lunitik> Nuked: its a little hot... but below 40 is generally fine...
[06:33] <Nuked> its usually below 40
[06:33] <lunitik> Nuked: what did you use to see tempreture? I'd like to know how hot my Video Card is....
[06:33] <Nuked> lunitik thats my harddrive temp
[06:33] <smaggard_> http://pastebin.com/820970
[06:34] <lunitik> Nuked: yes... it spins a lot... causes a lot of friction.... should be ok....
[06:34] <lunitik> Nuked: but again, what did you use to test temps?
[06:34] <Nuked> hddtemp
[06:35] <lunitik> Nuked: :(
[06:35] <smaggard_> lol
[06:35] <Nuked> why lunatik?
[06:35] <Nuked> lunitik:
[06:36] <smaggard_> have you tried ktemperature too?
[06:37] <felixjet> lunitik: can you help me please :( edgy is using 100% of my cpu! i cant do anything
[06:37] <lunitik> felixjet: What you want me to do about it?
[06:37] <smaggard_> Nuked> did you get my pastebin?
[06:37] <Nuked> yes smaggard
[06:37] <Nuked> Section "Extensions"
[06:37] <Nuked>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[06:37] <Nuked> EndSection
[06:38] <smaggard_> yup
[06:38] <smaggard_> just wondering.
[06:38] <lunitik> Kubuntu enables Composite by default
[06:38] <felixjet> lunitik: help me fix it?
[06:38] <Nuked> ill try it and see smaggard_ brb
[06:38] <Jucato> not in my xorg.conf...
[06:38] <smaggard_> i had to enable mine
[06:38] <smaggard_> manually
[06:39] <Jucato> lunitik: I think that was only in Dapper. maybe they removed it in Edgy
[06:39] <lunitik> Jucato: you don't need it via the config file in Kubuntu... ATI cards don't work with this on, so trust me I know its there....
[06:40] <smaggard_> what does it do to the ati cards? make them slower?
[06:40] <smaggard_> yeah on my laptop i have it Disabled and it has a 200M
[06:42] <hollywoodb> the composite extension in xorg.conf is not enabled by default in xorg.conf, and by many video cards it isn't even needed for xorg 7.1... 7.1 autodetects about 95% of what it needs.. in fact unless you're using proprietary drivers or special settings X.org will function perfectly with no /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all
[06:43] <hollywoodb> forgive the redundancy in the first sentence :X
[06:43] <smaggard_> lol yeah im using props on the laptop with the ati
[06:45] <hollywoodb> and with edgy (X.org 7.1) if you view /var/log/Xorg.0.log you'll notice that every single fontpath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is completely wrong, and it still picks up all fonts on its own... the same goes for hardware detection
[06:46] <hollywoodb> (unless you want to specifiy a proprietary video driver, synaptics touchpad options, etc... it still recognizes what you set in xorg.conf)
[06:46] <smaggard_> yeah :D
[06:47] <solar_ant> hey all
[06:48] <solar_ant> i have fsck.vfat runing in the background and comsuning 92% of cpu usage
[06:48] <smaggard_> hey
[06:48] <solar_ant> how do i turn it off ?
[06:48] <solar_ant> hey smaggard_ !
[06:48] <solar_ant> do u know ho to stop fsck  cleanly ?
[06:48] <smaggard_> hmmmm
[06:48] <smaggard_> hold on
[06:49] <solar_ant> :)
[06:50] <smaggard_> why do you need to stop it?
[06:50] <solar_ant> its running even now
[06:50] <solar_ant> and its taking 92% of my cpu usage
[06:51] <hollywoodb> solar_ant: if it decided it needs to run you're really best off just letting it run
[06:51] <smaggard_> type ps ax and then see what the process id is and then type sudo kill 32256 or whatever the id is
[06:51] <smaggard_> But I would let it run...............
[06:52] <solar_ant> smaggard_:  kill or killal in the middle of a check wont it corrupt my data ?
[06:52] <smaggard_> just wait it out
[06:52] <solar_ant> smaggard_:  its been running for hours
[06:52] <solar_ant> and also
[06:52] <solar_ant> every time i boot fsck.ext2 starts
[06:52] <smaggard_> try restarting
[06:52] <solar_ant> it just stalls
[06:52] <solar_ant> i have to press ctrl alt del to get over it
[06:52] <smaggard_> hmmmmmm
[06:52] <solar_ant> is it a bug ?
[06:53] <felixjet> my problem is the same, but no program consuming CPU, its all, when i open a program it takes ages to load
[06:54] <lunitik> felixjet: you screwed up somehow... just install edgy in place or reinstall dapper  :/
[06:55] <felixjet> but i will lose my configs? :(
[06:55] <smaggard_> agrees
[06:55] <solar_ant> great i had to use killall
[06:55] <solar_ant> anyway i mounted my drive
[06:56] <solar_ant> things are fine luckily !
[06:56] <solar_ant> :)
[06:57] <felixjet> damn it
[06:57] <felixjet> bad time when i upgraded to edgy
[06:58] <smaggard_> i never did the upgrade.. just full install.
[06:58] <felixjet> but if i reinstall from CD, i will lose all right?
[06:58] <felixjet> configs, programs...
[06:59] <lunitik> felixjet: yes..... unless you were intelligent enough to use a seperate /home .. in which case you'd keep user settings....
[07:00] <daftvader> hi
[07:00] <felixjet> pf
[07:00] <felixjet> i was happy with kubuntu and now im so pissed
[07:00] <daftvader> can anyone tell me how to stop shift+backspace from killing my xwindow?
[07:01] <smaggard_> im not sure but i woudl think that keyboard settings in kde's config somewhere.
[07:01] <hollywoodb> felixjet: with a seperate /home you're in good shape... the easiest way to go about things is to know your /etc/apt/sources.list, know what programs you need to add right away... if you install from source and you're not keen on building packages try out checkinstall to make packages for you
[07:02] <hollywoodb> felixjet: also, it doesn't hurt to backup /etc/ ... just in case you realize later you had something configured there (which happens to me quite often)
[07:02] <smaggard_> yeah
[07:02] <j_> hey guys
[07:03] <j_> i need to know how i can access my windows files from ubuntu
[07:03] <unix_infidel> is there anyway i can generate a list of all packages installed after date mm.dd.yy and throw them into a file that i can point apt-get at?
[07:03] <lunitik> !ntfs
[07:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:04] <nino_> hi
[07:04] <smaggard_> Hi!
[07:04] <smaggard_> craig ferguson is on :D
[07:05] <nino_> what package do i need to install for mp3 playback in amorok??
[07:06] <felixjet> what if i modify 'edgy' to 'dapper' in sources.list and make a upgrade & dist-upgrade again?
[07:06] <lunitik> felixjet: nope
[07:07] <lunitik> nino_: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:07] <smaggard_> nino> when you try and play an mp3 it should guide you through it.
[07:07] <felixjet> then, whats the best way to go back to dapper and dont lose my configs/apps/packages...
[07:08] <lunitik> felixjet: I told you, you CAN'T
[07:08] <felixjet> must be a way.. since this is suppose to be better than "windows
[07:08] <smaggard_> felixjet> OMFG!
[07:08] <lunitik> felixjet: you can't downgrade windows versions either
[07:08] <smaggard_> you did not just say that.
[07:08] <nino_> lunitik shot thanks!!
[07:08] <felixjet> 2 months un kubuntu, i upgrade to edgy with the manual, and now all is errors, performance issues, lost configs... and i will lose all? with no way?
[07:08] <felixjet> lmao...
[07:09] <smaggard_> linux has no room for crybabies.
[07:09] <smaggard_> nor will it tolerate them.
[07:09] <lunitik> felixjet: you fucked up... don't fuck up next time... your whinning is getting annoying though...
[07:09] <felixjet> smaggard_: just room for the one who things this is a panacea?
[07:09] <felixjet> even if they lose ALL
[07:10] <smaggard_> how much did you pay for kubuntu and how much is this support ticket costing you? o wait..........
[07:10] <felixjet> they are generating money from each single person who uses the SO
[07:10] <smaggard_> ?
[07:11] <lunitik> felixjet: Go pay Novell $50 a year to listen to you whine
[07:11] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:11] <lunitik> felixjet: no... they're not
[07:11] <nino_> felixjet buy WINDOW VISTA!!
[07:11] <smaggard_> ubuntu and all variants are the BEST linux distors imho
[07:11] <smaggard_> distros*
[07:11] <felixjet> yay, and they fuck up ur 2 months jobs while upgrading SO *cough*
[07:12] <smaggard_> ever hear of a backup?
[07:12] <lunitik> felixjet: Funny how it went fine for everyone but you?
[07:12] <smaggard_> lunitik> hahaha
[07:13] <smaggard_> what pisses me off is ppl coming in hear and threatening/comparing linux to windows
[07:13] <smaggard_> here*
[07:13] <felixjet> naH, windows sucks
[07:13] <lunitik> smaggard_: Thats perfectly fair....
[07:14] <RobNyc> anyone here uses EasyUbuntu ?
[07:14] <felixjet> im just pissed off cause the **cking upgrade is more like a system killer
[07:14] <lunitik> smaggard_: Linux wants to be better than Windows on merits.... not just on religious wars
[07:14] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: nope :) why do you ask?
[07:14] <felixjet> but the merit is that now i need to backup all and format
[07:14] <smaggard_> linux is better than any M$ product on all fronts.
[07:15] <hollywoodb> smaggard_: pffft... Windows has supported a single partition since 1.0 :P
[07:15] <RobNyc> hollywoodb, im trying to run it and its not even working
[07:15] <RobNyc> python: can't open file './easyubuntu.in': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory so I think I'll go back to automatix prob
[07:15] <lunitik> smaggard_: but yet you become defensive when others compare and don't reach the same conclusion?
[07:15] <j_> thanks for that link for the windows file access
[07:15] <j_> is there one on how to setup my graphics card?
[07:15] <j_> i think im using default drivers right now
[07:15] <nino_> go linux go linux go linux!!!! weeehooo my amarok is working thnx lunitik!!
[07:15] <j_> i can't get it to go up to 1280x1024
[07:16] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: have you checked out ubuntuguide ? it might require a bit more manual interaction, but it hasn't failed me yet
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: :)
[07:16] <smaggard_> lol thats like saying my car is better than yours because i buy my gas at BP
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: Now for some codecs so you can watch pr0n and DVD's  :)
[07:16] <nino_> ok
[07:16] <smaggard_> lol
[07:16] <smaggard_> install w32codecs :D
[07:16] <RobNyc> hollywoodb, i dont know if i did it right it but it seems it failed on edgy
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: Google for 'w32codecs ubuntu"
[07:16] <smaggard_> sudp apt-get install w32codecs :D
[07:17] <felixjet> smaggard_: it is possible to backup a list of packages manually installed, the programs installed, configs of SO, etc????
[07:17] <smaggard_> sudo* and take out the :D
[07:17] <lunitik> smaggard_: they're not in the archive
[07:17] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: well, if it says it failed on "./easyubuntu.in' that means the the file easyubuntu.in needs to be in the same directory that you're running "Easy Ubuntu" from, if that makes sense (I haven't run it myself)
[07:17] <nino_> now this is what i call SUPPORT!!
[07:17] <felixjet> or i need reconfigure and reinstall all again
[07:17] <lunitik> smaggard_: if you care to share the correct sources.list line... it'd be helpful for nino_  :)
[07:17] <RobNyc> well i dont even know about that hollywoodb i just saved the deb to desktop
[07:17] <smaggard_> the correct sources.list for edgy?
[07:18] <RobNyc> ran dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[07:18] <smaggard_> o you mean for the w32codecs?
[07:18] <RobNyc> and added the url to sources.list
[07:18] <lunitik> felixjet: It takes me about an hour to install and configure everything... I think you'd have been done by now if you'd have just done it instead of complaining
[07:18] <Jucato> wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato <--- default edgy sources.list (no locale, no multiverse)
[07:18] <lunitik> smaggard_: yes
[07:18] <lunitik> smaggard_: w32codecs is _not_ in multiverse
[07:19] <nino_> mmm not in my source list
[07:19] <smaggard_> ill pastebin my entire list
[07:19] <felixjet> lunitik: the problem is that i dont remember all configurations like windows position/sizes, themes and stuff
[07:19] <nino_> cool :)
[07:19] <Jucato> I'll repeat what lunitik said... w32codecs is *NOT* in multiverse :P
[07:20] <lunitik> Its not on any Ubuntu mirror eiether...
[07:20] <lunitik> either*
[07:20] <smaggard_> i installed with edgy
[07:20] <smaggard_> using apt-get
[07:20] <Jucato> w32codecs is not in any "official" Ubuntu/Canonical repos
[07:20] <smaggard_> http://pastebin.com/820989
[07:21] <nino_> smaggard many thanks!!!
[07:21] <smaggard_> if you make your sources like that... youll get w32codecs
[07:21] <smaggard_> np :D thats edgy btw.........
[07:21] <Jucato> yes, with the PLF repositories
[07:21] <felixjet> lunitik: should i format drive or just install in the next boot?
[07:21] <nino_> my distro is a halfbreed i think!!
[07:22] <lunitik> felixjet: format everything but /home (if its seperate)
[07:22] <lunitik> nino_: whats your distro?
[07:22] <felixjet> but, if i reinstall without formatting, for example, all the /usr/www/ folder will be deleted?
[07:22] <smaggard_> felixjet> im not sure, wondered that myself.
[07:22] <felixjet> or i will keep all data, just overwriting the SO needed files
[07:23] <lunitik> felixjet: you have a webserver installed there?
[07:23] <felixjet> yea
[07:23] <felixjet> i have lot of data
[07:23] <nino_> im on dapper, but upgraded allot of stuff in between
[07:23] <smaggard_> webserver on a desktop?
[07:23] <felixjet> that i dont wanna lose
[07:23] <lunitik> felixjet: ouch.. I'd back that kinda stuff up....
[07:23] <felixjet> is just a webserver for testing
[07:23] <smaggard_> you def need that on an nfs server or dvd or something to have backed up..
[07:24] <felixjet> its easy to do php stuff in a local server
[07:24] <smaggard_> yeah theres nothing wrong with having apache running on a desktop for the proper intentions.
[07:24] <globe> I am trying to install my hp printer, and gnome is asking me where the driver is...where is it?
[07:24] <jazzrocker> why won't kate find or replace \n or \r ?
[07:25] <felixjet> what about make a fat32 partition, tar all the / directory, and move it there? XD
[07:25] <felixjet> and then, format linux partition and reinstall
[07:25] <smaggard_> hy fat32? why not ext3?
[07:26] <smaggard_> if you have space i would make a new partition and backup to it
[07:26] <felixjet> cause my other HD is ntfs, and i can go windows and make a fat32 partition in that HD, also good to data exchange from Win-Linux
[07:26] <felixjet> uhm
[07:26] <smaggard_> sounds like you need another hd :D
[07:27] <nino_> he he he just n littlebit of copy n paste then my sources would be ready :)!!
[07:27] <felixjet> or maybe, like you say, make a new partition here, move the backup there and reinstall edgy...
[07:27] <smaggard_> lol and then your pr0n will be viewable in mplayer!
[07:27] <felixjet> and use the backup partition as a secure data place
[07:27] <felixjet> i have 2 x 220GB HD's
[07:28] <felixjet> space is not a problem
[07:28] <smaggard_> felixjet> yeah you can tar whatever dirs you want and put them on the new partition
[07:28] <jazzrocker> seriously, can anyone successfully do a regex search for \n or \r in kate?
[07:28] <smaggard_> i have 4 600GB HDs :D :D :P
[07:28] <nino_> smaggard lol!!
[07:28] <Jucato> smaggard_: my eyes just popped out
[07:28] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:28] <jazzrocker> and if so why isn't mine working
[07:28] <smaggard_> LOTS OF PR0N!
[07:28] <felixjet> well, here is 2 another problems, how to edit grub menu? i have it full of selection lines that i would like to remove
[07:29] <jazzrocker> also, how do i do non-greedy quantifiers w/kate?
[07:29] <smaggard_> thats easy
[07:29] <felixjet> and the other, tell me a good partitioner for kubuntu, easy usage please Xd
[07:29] <smaggard_> sudo nano /boot/grub.conf i believe.. you may have to mount /boot
[07:29] <Jucato> felixjet: edit menu.lst with kate
[07:29] <Jucato> or nano
[07:29] <j_> hey guys
[07:29] <hemant> hello
[07:29] <hemant> does anyone know how to make firefox or konqueror open konversation by defualt for irc links
[07:29] <Jucato> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:29] <j_> i have an nvidia card, how do i turn on 3d acceleration in X
[07:29] <smaggard_> or is that gentooish?
[07:30] <smaggard_> j_> download the nvidia driver
[07:30] <j_> i downloaded nvidia-glx
[07:30] <smaggard_> then install it... then in xorg.conf change the driver from nv to nvidia :D
[07:30] <j_> how do i install the driver?
[07:30] <smaggard_> hold on
[07:30] <smaggard_> ill get you a how-to
[07:30] <j_> alright
[07:31] <Jucato> j_: word of caution, you need to install linux-restricted-modules as well
[07:31] <felixjet> done. and a good/easy partitioner ?
[07:31] <smaggard_> i just had to do this yesterday
[07:31] <j_> what do you mean linux-restritced modules?
[07:31] <Jucato> j_: are you on Dapper or on Edgy? look for the linux-restricted-modules-xxxxxx package that matches the kernel version you are using
[07:32] <j_> i downlaoded kubuntu 6.10
[07:32] <smaggard_> cool ur running edgy like me :D
[07:32] <Jucato> j_: if you are on Edgy, you would most probably be using linux-image-generic, so you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:32] <smaggard_> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA#Installing_the_nVidia_Beta_Driver
[07:32] <j_> so i search for that using adept?
[07:32] <Jucato> smaggard_: did you get the recent nvidia-glx update?
[07:32] <Jucato> j_: yep
[07:32] <smaggard_> just follow the part about nvidia setup, not the beryl if you dont want it.
[07:32] <Jucato> smaggard_: no!!!!
[07:32] <j_> yea i installed nvidia-glx
[07:33] <Jucato> that installs the BETA nvidia driver
[07:33] <smaggard_> j_> the link i posted i used it yesterday and it works fine :D
[07:33] <smaggard_> just follow "Method 1" and youll be good to go
[07:34] <Jucato> well, since it's beta, there's no guarantee that it will always work, though
[07:34] <smaggard_> if you want, go ahead and install beryl, it works too and is freakin' sweeeeet
[07:34] <j_> it says i isntalled the restricted moduees already
[07:34] <smaggard_> cool then your that much ahead lol
[07:34] <nino_> what is beryl??
[07:35] <Jucato> nino_: a fork of compiz...
[07:35] <Jucato> !beryl | nino_
[07:35] <ubotu> nino_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:35] <unix_infidel> !beryl
[07:35] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:35] <smaggard_> did you add the repository to your sources.list?
[07:35] <_arthurb> Hi, can someone check a bug in kubuntu edgy ?
[07:35] <nino_> yip
[07:35] <Jucato> smaggard_: he already installed the default nvidia-glx
[07:35] <_arthurb> in kcontrol, try to change the keyboard layout... no layouts are displayed
[07:35] <_arthurb> there are none to choose from
[07:35] <smaggard_> ok then all you gotta do is go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from nv to nvidia
[07:36] <smaggard_> restart the x server and there should be a nvidia logo that pops up and then load up kde
[07:36] <Jucato> (me thinks he should backup xorg.conf first, then do "sudo nvidia-xconfig")
[07:36] <j_> that link you gave me isn't opening
[07:36] <smaggard_> if you want higher resolutions, add them to your screen section
[07:36] <_arthurb> can someone confirm ?
[07:36] <j_> smaggard that page isn't opening
[07:37] <nino_> nino's laptop is now pr0n ready!!
[07:37] <lunitik> nino_: :)
[07:37] <smaggard_> all you have to do.... is open xorg.conf... go to the driver part, change 'nv" to "nvidia"
[07:37] <nino_> And all i wanted was mp3 playback :)
[07:37] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:37] <lunitik> nino_: you have a dvd drive? and libdvdcss installed?
[07:37] <felixjet> gparted is good to use?
[07:38] <lunitik> felixjet: the install will handle that for you
[07:38] <Jucato> j_: anyway, if you already have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed and nvidia-glx, all you need to do is "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart X (that's the way I do it...)
[07:38] <lunitik> felixjet: stop over thinking
[07:38] <nino_> yep , ill check on libdvdcss now
[07:38] <felixjet> okey xd
[07:38] <felixjet> thats true
[07:38] <j_> k lemme try that
[07:39] <lunitik> felixjet: Thats the great thing about Kubuntu... KDE without requiring thought  :)
[07:39] <felixjet> lunitik: so, if i make a new partition and tell the installer to install it there, i wont lose any of this right? i dont want lose all while installing lmao
[07:39] <felixjet> i mean, this partition, and the data
[07:39] <lunitik> felixjet: you can do that... sure
[07:39] <smaggard_> ummm i wouldnt be lmao if your unbacked data was at risk haha
[07:40] <siliticx> anyone knows how to enable ntfs write access?
[07:40] <siliticx> or how to re-order the choices in grub
[07:40] <felixjet> so if it a risk i even prefer to make the partition now, move the backup, and tell the installer to format/install in this
[07:40] <j_> is restart x the third command?
[07:41] <Jucato> j_: restarting X involves Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (close/save everything you need to save first)
[07:41] <_arthurb> Does anyone know what package contains keyboard layouts ?
[07:41] <j_> ahh ok
[07:41] <nino_> lunitik i had the 64 bit installed at home but switched to 32 bit, more flexible!!
[07:41] <felixjet> smaggard_: is better make the partition now and move a backup data there, or make it with the installer and leave this partition as it is now?
[07:42] <felixjet> im annoying i know but i dont want lose anything :(
[07:42] <unix_infidel> _arthurb: maybe its best to ask in the channel that identifies with your layout language.
[07:42] <lunitik> nino_: I'm definitely going to go with a AMD64 kernel... and libc6-amd64 is around... not sure if I'd lose performance etc...
[07:43] <nino_> lunitik dont think it will affect performance !!
[07:43] <j_> ok after i did that
[07:43] <j_> what do i do?
[07:44] <Jucato> j_: did you see the nvidia logo for a brief moment after restarting X (before the login screen)?
[07:44] <j_> yep
[07:44] <Jucato> ok then. you're ok now :)
[07:44] <j_> nice
[07:44] <j_> haha
[07:44] <siliticx> anyone knows how to enable ntfs write access?
[07:44] <siliticx> or how to re-order the choices in grub
[07:44] <j_> now how would i get my resolution upto 1280x1024
[07:44] <nino_> lunitik i installed the 32 bit for wine, have to run a windaz base prduction system on it, otherwise 64bit was perfect!!
[07:45] <_arthurb> unix_infidel: it has nothing to do with my language
[07:45] <Jucato> j_: System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[07:45] <j_> i went there
[07:45] <_arthurb> no layout is displayed at all
[07:45] <j_> but hte max is 1024x768
[07:45] <lunitik> nino_: I'm thinking of installing vmware server instead for such things... not sure
[07:45] <Jucato> siliticx: for the grub choices, you can just rearrange the choices by cutting and pasting them. just make sure that you follow the "pattern"/blocks of lines
[07:46] <Jucato> j_: hm....
[07:46] <siliticx> huh but where is the file?
[07:46] <Jucato> siliticx: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:46] <j_> someone said i have to add the setting or osmethign
[07:46] <nino_> lunitik u know, i did not think about that, so windaz wil be ok on vmware through linux??
[07:46] <unix_infidel> _arthurb: man setxkbmap
[07:47] <nino_> fck Vista!!
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: sure... via vmware server... I'd imagine so?
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: of course it wouldn't be native speed...
[07:47] <Jucato> j_: well, you can do this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" just accept the default answers if you're not sure what to do, then when it comes to the part about asking which resolutions to include, enable the ones that you want. restart X after you're done
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: VMWare Server is free too! They just want money for VMware ESX Server
[07:47] <_arthurb> anyone knows in what package the keyboard layouts are ?
[07:48] <j_> k ill try that
[07:49] <lunitik> _arthurb: They should be installed... go to KControl > Regional and Accessability > Keyboard Layout  :/
[07:49] <_arthurb> lunitik: yes, nothing is displayed
[07:49] <_arthurb> I can't pick because there is no choice at all
[07:49] <lunitik> _arthurb: I have like<PHONE_NUMBER>36 keyboard layouts available in there  :/
[07:49] <nino_> mwaha ha ha  Linux is taking over the world ([07:50] <lunitik> nino_: I think thats the plan  :P
[07:50] <Jucato> sshh!!! there might be spies listening...
[07:50] <lunitik> nino_: Companies get to do what they want, without having to invest in an entire operating system... so it works out for everyone  :)
[07:51] <_arthurb> lunitik: I don't ;) that's why I'm asking
[07:51] <nino_> lately alot of companies have switched to linux!!
[07:51] <lunitik> _arthurb: I dunno, this is a default install for the most part...
[07:52] <lunitik> nino_: Not really, Oracle made there Linux initiatives more aggressive... they've been in the Linux landscape for a while though
[07:52] <lunitik> nino_: They were one of the initial Red Hat investors... them, IBM, Novell etc
[07:52] <siliticx> Anyway, beside the look i dont see a point to linux anyway
[07:52] <lunitik> Even Bill Gates invested in Red Hat... although not via Microsoft...
[07:52] <siliticx> cant do .net 3.0 or game properly so im out, peace out
[07:53] <Jucato> O_o
[07:53] <Jucato> and that's supposed to be Linux's fault?
[07:53] <nino_> lunitik Small bussiness here in South Africa have switched over Production, Accounting firms Even our Tax Offices run linux now!!
[07:53] <siliticx> nope, just how the world is done.
[07:53] <lunitik> Mono and Cegega/Wine are both doing Gaming and .NET things
[07:53] <Jucato> considering who owns/made .NET and what technology games use, I'm not surprised.
[07:54] <siliticx> yeah mono which has hardly a .net 2.0 version
[07:54] <siliticx> aaaaand my shitty ATI drivers are erally helping.
[07:54] <Jucato> anyway, let's not get carried into an offtopic discussion, shall we?
[07:54] <Werdnum> I've noticed a "DCOM" used to control Kaffeine and Konversation and such
[07:54] <lunitik> siliticx: oh well... you'll be sadly missed in the community?
[07:54] <Werdnum> is there a tutorial or something on that?
[07:54] <hollywoodb> nino_: a lot of institutions are starting to realize that they can hire a good linux tech (or techs) with long-term employment goals for cheaper than long-term license agreements with your mainstream commercial OS
[07:54] <siliticx> nah, piece, im out, the on;ly reason i came here was for amarok anyway
[07:54] <Jucato> Werdnum: DCOP
[07:55] <Werdnum> bah, same thing :-P
[07:55] <siliticx> too baed theres no amarok for windows, heh
[07:55] <Jucato> not it isn't :P
[07:55] <lunitik> siliticx: Virtual PC
[07:55] <siliticx> ,,,
[07:55] <lunitik> siliticx: you'll be missed  :/
[07:55] <siliticx> heh
[07:55] <Jucato> too bad there's no KDE on Windows, or a good filesystem like ext3 or reiser, etc.
[07:55] <Jucato> he won't :P
[07:56] <siliticx> ill still try to come and hang out while im bored
[07:56] <lunitik> siliticx: I was being sarcastic...
[07:56] <nino_> hollywoodb and some outsourcing vendors make a killing with windowa support here!!
[07:56] <siliticx> juc, nope it haaas only 1 thing. compatibility, which is the most important ^^
[07:56] <lunitik> siliticx: By the way, god invented game consoles for gaming
[07:56] <siliticx> thats why im getting a ps3 ;P
[07:56] <nino_> Linux is really starting to step up now!!
[07:56] <felixjet> i forgot the tar -XXX to backup a folder... can someone say them please
[07:56] <siliticx> least  ill be stuck with liux on it for a while ;P
[07:56] <felixjet> the parameters
[07:57] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I was really hoping WinFS would make the grade, if only to offer something new and provide incentive for the competition
[07:57] <Jucato> hollywoodb: guess you're hopes were shattered :)
[07:57] <lunitik> felixjet: sudo apt-get install dirvish
[07:57] <siliticx> yeah, and ill go code in winFX, cya ;P
[07:58] <felixjet> lunitik: its like keep?
[07:58] <felixjet> !dirvish
[07:58] <ubotu> dirvish: Filesystem based backup system using rsync. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 244 kB
[07:58] <lunitik> hollywoodb: It did provide incentive...
[07:58] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Even if WinFS never produced... KDE folks are working on what WinFS provided
[07:59] <felixjet> $ dirvish
[07:59] <felixjet> ERROR: no master configuration file
[07:59] <hollywoodb> lunitik: GnomeFS (File Storage) is under active development as well... I guess I'm all about new products and innovation, even if it isn't coming from the camps I like to support
[08:00] <lunitik> hollywoodb: GnomeFS is about to die afaik... and provides nothing like WinFS promised
[08:00] <Werdnum> is there a konversation script for amarok integration?
[08:00] <hollywoodb> lunitik: gimme a minute, i might have that name wrong
[08:00] <lunitik> Werdnum: yes
[08:00] <Werdnum> lunitik: where is it?
[08:00] <Jucato> Werdnum: what do you mean by "amarok integration"?
[08:01] <method|> Werdnum: theres a built in announce script
[08:01] <Werdnum> Jucato: NP on request, control it from x-chat
[08:01] <method|> i wrote one also
[08:01] <method|> amaroK|mp3 [a: mackshit s: Mack Lessons Radio #47.mp3]  [28:51/128]
[08:01] <lunitik> Werdnum: hmm... I don't see it either... but there is such a thing... because folks in #kde do it all the time  :/
[08:02] <Jucato> ah, I don't think there is one by default, I mean controlling Amarok from Konvi
[08:02] <Jucato>  /media shows the current playing song
[08:02] <nino_> whatever you do dont ask for mp3 support in amarok!! LOL!!
[08:02] <Werdnum> yay
[08:03] <lunitik> nino_: #amarok is for the client... they don't support xine/gstreamer/helix there... they just use those backends...
[08:03] <Jucato> Werdnum: you might try looking in kde-apps.org if such a script exists (controlling Amarok from Konversation)
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> hey
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> who was talking to j_
[08:03] <hollywoodb> lunitik: Gnome Storage was what I was aiming at: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/storage/
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> awhile ago about the resolutions
[08:04] <nino_> oooh
[08:04] <lunitik> hollywoodb: ahh... I haven't heard from that guy in a while....
[08:04] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: I was, I think
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> yea
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> its me
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> hah
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> it kinda screwed up
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> screen went black
[08:04] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: then?
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> when i changed it to 1280x1024
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> and finish the rest of the setup
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> i restarted x
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> and it went black
[08:05] <dooowweeedoo> with some red letters at the top
[08:05] <dooowweeedoo> and it stayed like that
[08:05] <lunitik> hollywoodb: you can tell its old because the gnome pics still only have Applications and Actions or whatever
[08:05] <hollywoodb> lunitik: actually from what I see of Gnome 3.0 mockups that's where 3.0 is heading... seems its mostly "task-orientated" ... though I'll admit I haven't bothered to check the last time CVS on Storage was modified
[08:06] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: when happens, press Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in (command line), then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again. then "startx"
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> so should i start in recovery mode
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> ?
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> and run that command?
[08:07] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: not necessary, when you get to that blank screen, just press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:07] <dooowweeedoo> ahh ok
[08:07] <hollywoodb> lunitik: I'm thinking it'll be along the lines of putting Gnome 2.x into maintenance mode for a good long time until corporate environments fine it worth their time and upgrade... sort of how CentOS and *buntu LTS work
[08:07] <dooowweeedoo> ill try that
[08:09] <lunitik> Although, to be fair, no corporation would push those things out without testing... but still
[08:11] <hollywoodb> lunitik: Ubuntu is still pretty young in the corporate world... from what I've experience the first word that comes up when linux migration gets mentioned is "RedHat"
[08:14] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Depends... Whenever I've talked about it with people, they tend to say "SUSE!" ... which is what IBM, and now Microsoft will tell you too...
[08:14] <root> alright that worked
[08:15] <lunitik> Don't IRC as root
[08:15] <j_> k
[08:15] <j_> i don't know i think my settings went to default
[08:15] <hollywoodb> lunitik: maybe its just me, but SuSE rubs me the wrong way... I *really* don't like popping open any given config file in /etc/ that I *know* how to edit to suit my purposes and there's twelve lines of comments placed inconveniently there by yaST.
[08:15] <lunitik> Logout and back in as a normal user....
[08:15] <j_> how do i do that?
[08:16] <MistaED> where are the mockups for topaz/gnome3?
[08:16] <method|> SuSE sucks for one reason and one reason only
[08:16] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Comments are always good.... even if you know what you're doing
[08:16] <method|> the YaST/xen bugs
[08:16] <method|> the package management in the newest suse is severely broken and slow
[08:17] <method|> its worse than yum
[08:17] <method|> that says alot
[08:17] <lunitik> method|: They were the first to try and put pretty buttons over Xen.... there is going to be issues
[08:17] <hollywoodb> lunitik: yeah, but not when they consist of "Do Not edit this file manually!" and variants... I also don't like the immense number of cross-dependencies, its as if its a Gentoo system with every possible USE flag enabled, but to each their own I guess.
[08:17] <lunitik> method|: Everyone knows about the package management issues... they are improving for newest SUSE though
[08:17] <method|> i hope they do
[08:18] <method|> PCLinuxOS is the best rpm distro imo
[08:18] <method|> i love pclos
[08:18] <lunitik> PCLinuxOS is Mandriva One with a goofy looking theme  :/
[08:18] <hollywoodb> method|: cpu scaling and suspend/resume are broken on my laptop... I can get it to work with my own scripts, but neither mandriva nor pclinuxos will let it happen by default
[08:18] <Healot> and bad packaging...
[08:19] <method|> PCLOS is mandriva one but ten times better
[08:19] <lunitik> Healot: They just use Mandriva packages, so you can't blame that on them   :P
[08:19] <method|> with better fonts by default, multimedia support, a great community, and a nice package manager (apt-get)
[08:19] <method|> they just have a few major bugs that prevents me from using it (ipw2200 wep bug)
[08:20] <lunitik> method|: They'll change the package manager soon... they have to, apt4rpm is dead... and PCLinuxOS folks aren't talented enough to maintain it
[08:20] <hollywoodb> PCLinuxOS is "nice", but why do I want to write acpi scripts when I could be here tell you people how I don't want to write acpi scritps?!  *smirk*
[08:20] <hollywoodb> man I can't spell tonite
[08:20] <Shaddar> hi ... how can i change the device an interface is using ? (my wireless-lan-interface uses the ethernet-controller instead of my wlan-adapter :| )
[08:21] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: you mean like eth0 or eth1 ?
[08:21] <Shaddar> yes
[08:21] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: if they're consistent in their device assignments it shouldn't matter, are they erratic?
[08:22] <method|> [01:20]  <lunitik> method|: They'll change the package manager soon... they have to, apt4rpm is dead... and PCLinuxOS folks aren't talented enough to maintain it
[08:22] <method|> will be interesting to see what happens
[08:22] <Shaddar> when i'm looking up with ifconfig eth1 is my wlan-adapter, bzw iwconfig shows my ethernet-controller as eth1
[08:22] <Shaddar> @ hollywoodb
[08:22] <Shaddar> bzw=but oO
[08:23] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: does iwconfig say eth1 has wireless extensions?
[08:23] <Shaddar> yes
[08:23] <Shaddar> and the mac-address doesn't fit with the mac-adr. of my wlanadapter
[08:24] <j_> hey jucato
[08:24] <Jucato> hi j_. did it work?
[08:24] <j_> yea thanks
[08:24] <j_> haha
[08:24] <j_> where can i find the xserver config file?
[08:24] <Healot> it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:24] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: don't know why wlan don't work automatically ... one week ago i installed kubuntu first time and wlan worked without probs, yesterday is reinstalled and nothing works :(
[08:25] <Shaddar> -s
[08:26] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: well, you can set module aliases that say "when I load wlan driver I make it eth1 no matter what"... although it shouldn't be necessary
[08:27] <j_> smaggard
[08:27] <j_> can you send me that windows mounting how to
[08:27] <Jucato> !ntfs
[08:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:27] <j_> thanks
[08:27] <Jucato> j_: ^^^^^
[08:27] <j_> thanks
[08:27] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, but why are there different controllers listed as eth1 ? i thought this must be consistent (so eth1 = wlan and eth0 = ethernet for example)
[08:28] <jobless_> guys does anybody know a reader for reading simple captchas?
[08:28] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: well, depending on the card and driver, you can get multiple /dev/ nodes for a single device... it isn't uncommon for madwifi driver to create /dev/ath0 (with wireless extensions) and /dev/wlan0 or /dev/wifi0 (without wifi extensions, ironically)
[08:29] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: and they will be listed in iwconfig and ifconfig seperately, but with same MAC address... if your mac addresses aren't matching, something is wrong
[08:30] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, the mac's aren't matching ... don't know why, last installation this problem didn't occure ... i reinstalled kubuntu twice yesterday and both times this prob
[08:30] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: and if that is indeed the case (MAC addresses aren't correct), its relatively trivial to fix...
[08:30] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: this doc is for RedHat, but the syntax in the first 'code' box is the important part: http://www.linux.com/guides/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap8sec88.shtml
[08:31] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: where it says 'alias...' ... on a kubuntu box you can put those lines in /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases
[08:32] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: so if you know which module is for which card you can force it to eth1 or eth0.. but if one is ath0 you should keep forcing it to ath0, not change it to eth1, for example
[08:33] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: hm, what do you mean with "module" ? i can identify my wlan-adapter through mac (don't know if this helps me ^^)
[08:34] <richee_> hello
[08:34] <Shaddar> <-- linux-beginner :|
[08:34] <richee_> <
[08:35] <richee_> this was unexpected
[08:35] <richee_> as in link from ubuntu web site got me here
[08:36] <richee_> anywat,  i need some help with wireless and static ip, please
[08:37] <lunitik> method|: Interesting? how... they'll likely just adopt smart  :/
[08:37] <method|> yeah i can see that happening
[08:38] <method|> smart is pretty good tho
[08:38] <method|> thats what half of opensuse 10.1 users are using
[08:38] <richee_> wireless staic ip - help -please;)
[08:39] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: takes a bit of know-how I guess... I know my wlan card is an Intel 2915ABG which is supported by the ipw2200 driver... I know on my desktop my NIC is an nforce3 ethernet card which is supported by 'forcedeth' module
[08:40] <Shaddar> the chipset is intel 2200BG so i guess it needs the ipw2200 driver as well ^^
[08:40] <j_> hey jucato
[08:40] <j_> do you have any other ideas
[08:40] <j_> on how to get 1280 resolution
[08:40] <j_> ?
[08:40] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: but it seems that something doesn't work
[08:41] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: yep... and if you know your NIC it isn't 'terribly' hard to figure out... if its a realtek there's a good chance the module starts with rt, broadcom likely to start with bc.. all viewable via 'lsmod'
[08:41] <richee_> would some kind soul please respond to my request.  I've been trying for 2 weeks to get any form of linux server wiv samba and lamp going for two weeks.  I've samba,  I've got lamp.  Now all I need is a static ip over my wireless,  PLEAS EPLEASE b4 I go insane (perhaps it's too l8)
[08:41] <hollywoodb> richee_: got a router?
[08:41] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: sry for asking : NIC ? :o
[08:42] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: Network Interface Controller == network card ;) generally meaning ethernet, not wifi
[08:42] <richee_> I got a wireless connection working,  but only wiv DHCP.  Idealy I'd like wireless wivout the gui but i've given up there
[08:42] <hollywoodb> richee_: got a router?
[08:42] <richee_> yes
[08:42] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: i guess it's an intelchip as well
[08:43] <hollywoodb> richee_: set your router to assign IP via MAC address, then you can use dhcp on your system and get the same IP every time
[08:43] <harmental> hye everybody....
[08:43] <richee_> thought of that,  my wireless router has no such option.  would ave been ideal
[08:43] <harmental> what is the correct ligne for the fstab when mounting a fat32 disk (iocharset, nls and codepage options)
[08:45] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: it'll probably take a bit of experimentation, but if you can identify which module is for which card you can use alias lines like those in /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases
[08:45] <richee_> but hey,  you've given me an idea,  possibly there's a firmware update to take care of it.  I'll check it out, unlikelt but worth a try
[08:45] <hollywoodb> richee_: well, it isn't a kde app, but I've used wifi-radar successfully before, it's dead-easy to set up
[08:45] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: oh, my ethernetcontroller is a broadcom gigabit ethernet (looked for it with lspci)
[08:46] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: then there's a good chance the module for that card starts with 'bc'... perhaps 'bc43xx' or something similar
[08:46] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: how can i look for the module-name ?
[08:47] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: sudo lsmod | less
[08:48] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: will list modules
[08:48] <richee_> Tried that this morning but all it did was loose me my connection.  I think it's cos I gom bcm43xx.  I've had all sorts of problems just getting that working,  especially wiv wpa.
[08:49] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: thx, but neither a module with "bc" starting nor with 2200 or something similar :|
[08:50] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: might take a little more research then... I don't pretend to know what every single module represents, although I wouldn't mind having those bragging rights ;)
[08:51] <richee_> anyways,  thnx.   I'm gonna have a look @ stting the router to dish out the ip for me.  I looked at this a couple of weeks ago,  no joy,  but I've a feeling there's a way.  So I'm off googling, and cheers,  I'm slightly more sane than b4 ;)
[08:52] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: so i have no chance of getting my wlan work without detailled search, right ? ^^
[08:54] <richee_> holywoodb: anyways,  thnx.   I'm gonna have a look @ stting the router to dish out the ip for me.  I looked at this a couple of weeks ago,  no joy,  but I've a feeling there's a way.  So I'm off googling, and cheers,  I'm slightly more sane than b4 ;)
[08:55] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: probably, if you search google for what 'lspci' says the chip is you should find out which module pretty quick
[08:59] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: you mena something like this : Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit-LAN, works, using the tg3 kernel module ?
[08:59] <Shaddar> mena=mean oO
[08:59] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: could be, BCM5751M is the important part, so if 'lsmod' lists the 'tg3' module, there ya go
[09:00] <Shaddar> no it doesn't list it :(
[09:02] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: you could always post the output of 'lspci' and 'lsmod', as well as 'ifconfig' and 'iwconfig' to the forums and wait a response
[09:04] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: thx (typing all the lines manually sucks -.-)
[09:05] <|joe|> helo
[09:05] <xsacha> !kernel
[09:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:05] <xsacha> !reconfigure
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <xsacha> any ideas how i can reconfigure my kernel to add something in? or i have to compile?
[09:06] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: in konsole you can highlight and rightclick->copy also, if you highlight and then middle-click somewhere else it will paste... this works for terminal and *all* things linux
[09:07] <hollywoodb> xsacha: read the second link you got from "!kernel"
[09:07] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, but without any connection to other pcs or the internet i can't c&p ^^
[09:07] <xsacha> so i have to compile it?
[09:07] <hollywoodb> xsacha: not necessarily, read that document
[09:08] <Shaddar> hollywoodb : irc is running on dekstop-pc not on laptop
[09:08] <xsacha> cant i just do something to reconfigure kernel?
[09:08] <Shaddar> desktop
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: OK, then: lsmod > lsmod.txt
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: that'll make a file lsmod.txt with the output from lsmod
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: (oh, and sudo first if needed)... you can do that with any command
[09:09] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: then use a floppy/usb drive/CDR to copy it over
[09:09] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: oh, right ^^ usb-stick i... good idea, thx ^^
[09:10] <Shaddar> gn8 ^^
[09:12] <richee_> hollywoodb:  Your suggestion has born fruit.  My router does not support if allocation natively,  but I've found a third party firmware provider that will enable this feature.  Looks like this is going to solve my problem,  cheers
[09:13] <richee_> hollywoodb:  ip allocation  not if  ;)
[09:19] <Shaddar> anyone an idea why my usbstick always deletes every file/folder i copy to it with linux ? (are there any necessary actions before copying to an usbsstick in linux) ?
[09:20] <|joe|> Shaddar: do you always correctly umount?
[09:20] <Jucato> Safely Remove
[09:20] <Shaddar> |joe|: no ... don't know how because the terminal for examples doesn't work with usb-stick cause of quotes in name (perhaps i'm to stupid to get it work ^^)
[09:21] <|joe|> Shaddar: what do you mean terminal doesn't work with usb-stick?
[09:22] <Shaddar> |joe|: i was trying to copy the files by terminal (cp)
[09:22] <|joe|> Shaddar: and how did you mount the usb stick? via kde?
[09:22] <Shaddar> |joe| : but my usb-stick wasn't accepted as a folder to copy in
[09:23] <Shaddar> |joe| : yes ... asked if i want to open usbstick in new window ... clikced ok (so it has to be mounted automatically right ? )
[09:23] <|joe|> Shaddar: yes it should
[09:24] <Shaddar> |joe|: how do i unmount it manually ? (safely remove didn't work as well :( )
[09:24] <|joe|> Shaddar: generally you have to always unmount the usb mass storage devices before detaching them
[09:24] <|joe|> Shaddar: you can do it eg then by clicking on the device icon in kde and selecting safely remove as Jucato suggested
[09:25] <|joe|> Shaddar: otherwise the data can get only cached in your computer; by "safely remove" they will be flushed to your stick
[09:25] <Shaddar> |joe|: didnt work ^^ safely removed devide, put it back in usb-slot and files are deleted :(
[09:25] <Shaddar> device
[09:25] <|joe|> Shaddar: that's the worse cast
[09:25] <|joe|> e
[09:26] <Shaddar> |joe|: oh oO second time trying to remove safely it worked oO
[09:26] <Jucato> :P
[09:27] <|joe|> not _that_ worse after all :)
[09:27] <|joe|> but i had once a usb card reader for sc cards that worked flawlessly under winxp
[09:27] <Shaddar> did exactly the same actions ... first time didn't work, second time it worked ... sometimes i don't understand computers oO
[09:28] <|joe|> and on linux i couldn't fill it to more than 50% .... the fs got always corrupted
[09:28] <|joe|> but it was no name so i assume it was just standard-unfriendly or similar
[09:30] <Shaddar> hm ... the format by copying for example "lsmod > lsmod.txt" is really bad oO no wordwrap -.-
[09:30] <Jucato> ??
[09:30] <|joe|> ?
[09:30] <Jucato> mine has
[09:35] <Shaddar> hm ... after c&p there is wordwrap ... in editor not
[09:54] <harmental> hi everybody....
[09:54] <harmental> i have an encoding problem...
[09:55] <harmental> i have my box set to UTF...
[09:55] <harmental> however i often work with windows files using special chars (  )
[09:56] <harmental> when i open those files with kate (kate is set to utf) strange symbols appear...
[09:56] <harmental> if i set kate to use ISO text is ok again....
[09:57] <harmental> is there a way to let kate (and the rest pieces of software for that matter) set to UTF while preserving compatibility w/ Windows?
[10:00] <harmental> anybody?
[10:01] <ME> geia
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> harmental: not everyone is around or knows the answer
[10:14] <Schalken> how can i reset the kmenu?
[10:15] <mat__> Hallo
[10:15] <mat__> =)
[10:15] <Jucato> Schalken: "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ? (what do you mean by "reset"?
[10:16] <Schalken> Jucato: im trying to undo some edits i made
[10:16] <Schalken> will that undo them all?
[10:16] <Jucato> Schalken: ah. no. that command "refreshes" K Menu.. sorry
[10:16] <mat__> I got a question: Even though I installed kdmtheme via apt-get I cannot find it in Systemproperties... Why? (got edgy eft)
[10:17] <Schalken> Jucato: "refreshes"?
[10:17] <Jucato> Schalken: for example, if you installed a program that doesn't immediately show up in K Menu.you need to refresh it
[10:18] <Schalken> Jucato: ah okay
[10:18] <Jucato> mat__: it's a bug. you need to use KControl (Alt+F2, "kcontrol")_
[10:18] <mat__> Jucato: that's annoying... =S
[10:19] <Jucato> mat__: it's a bug. of course it's annoying :P
[10:19] <Jucato> Schalken: not entirely sure, but this would completely undo all. go to ~/.config/menus and delete the applications-menu file there
[10:20] <mat__> Jucato: so why it get's not fixed... =P gg
[10:20] <Schalken> Jucato: thats the file that contains my manual configuration and if i delete it it goes back to sysdefault?
[10:20] <Jucato> mat__: because it's a new bug (only in Edgy)? and might require a bit more fixing than a simple patch
[10:20] <Jucato> Schalken: I believe so
[10:21] <mat__> Jucato: it works! Thx a lot! *thumbsup*
[10:22] <Jucato> ok
[10:23] <mat__> Other question: My hardware-monitor is 1280x800 but Xorg uses 12024x768. How can I fix this? (with WinXP Home it does work, have an Acer Aspire 1640ZWLMi)
[10:23] <mat__> of course 1024x768... sorry, typo
[10:24] <mat__> I already tried manualy to fix this, but xorg.conf get's overwritten. (gues by kde)
[10:25] <mat__> tried also sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but after a xserver restart it overwrites my xorg.conf...
[10:25] <mat__> can sb help?
[10:27] <|joe|> mat__: when do you think  it gets overwritten? in kdm?
[10:27] <mat__> joe: i only gues...
[10:28] <mat__> joe: i tried with KDE-Monitor but there also it doesn't work... damned!
[10:28] <mat__> joe: could it be, that i got shared memory?
[10:30] <|joe|> mat__: ?
[10:31] <mat__> joe: i got 1024mb ram and my graphiccard uses the ram as videoram. you know sharedmemory...
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: i'm not actually sure what is your problem
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: but if you want to you can try the following
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: shut down kde and x, stop kdm
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: fix xorg.conf
[10:32] <|joe|> mat__: and run X manually (X in the console)
[10:32] <zoetrope666> hi all :) can someone help me > i've been downloading different login window themes and trying them out, however in the process i appear to have lost the 'restart' and 'shutdown' options from both my login window at startup, and from my quit menu at shutdown. is this fixable? im using ubuntu
[10:32] <|joe|> mat__: if you don't have the right resolution, you have a problem :)
[10:33] <mat__> joe: will try... brb brb
[10:33] <|joe|> mat__: provided that you're not fiddling with system settings with root privileges in kde
[10:40] <harmental> i have simple question here......
[10:40] <mat__> joe: re
[10:40] <harmental> how can i share an usb-memory between kubuntu (edgy) and windows (xp) regarding the encoding
[10:40] <harmental> utf for linux
[10:41] <mat__> joe: well my xorg.conf file is correct, but it doesn't look like as if my resolution is correct...
[10:41] <harmental> when i create text files with special chars (  ) in win they don work in linux
[10:41] <lupine_85> harmental: winxp should be able to do utf8 as well
[10:42] <harmental> the other way round works nicely...
[10:42] <lupine_85> really it's a windows support question :/ -- it's probably using iso-8859-1
[10:42] <lupine_85> maybe try #windows ? :)
[10:43] <|joe|> mat__: can you take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[10:43] <|joe|> lupine_85: windows and utf8? i haven't heard of it
[10:43] <harmental> lupine_85: well...i dont know what windows does ....but i can assure that i cant modify nor create utf files with xp
[10:43] <rolando_> hola
[10:43] <rolando_> how can i make my sd card reader work again with edgy?
[10:44] <mat__> |joe| mean KSystemLog->X.Org-Protocol?
[10:44] <|joe|> mat__: maybe, i use less /var/log/Xblabla :)
[10:44] <lupine_85> any relatively modern OS "should" be able to...
[10:45] <|joe|> harmental: i'd say windows uses its special codepages
[10:45] <lupine_85> do the special characters made in windows, appear in windows?
[10:45] <Schalken> what do i need to do to get konqueror to detect the java plugin?
[10:45] <harmental> yes...
[10:45] <|joe|> harmental: you should probably play with mount and iocharset, codepage parameters
[10:45] <lupine_85> if so, you could force ubuntu to read & write the usb stick with that codepage, but that's a nasty hack
[10:45] <lupine_85> personally i'd fix/dump windows :)
[10:46] <|joe|> lupine_85: what win do you have? (lang)
[10:46] <lupine_85> I don't have Windows at all
[10:46] <lupine_85> PoS
[10:47] <|joe|> Schalken: did you look at the java tab in konq settings?
[10:47] <|joe|> oh sorry
[10:47] <|joe|> harmental:  what win do you have? (lang)
[10:47] <rolando_> i get sd card detected in socket 3
[10:47] <Schalken> |joe|: what needs to be configured?
[10:47] <harmental> |joe|: english
[10:47] <harmental> xp
[10:48] <rolando_> dmesg
[10:48] <|joe|> harmental: ehm and what special chars do you mean?
[10:48] <|joe|> Schalken: konq settings, java & java script, globally enable java, and the correct binary
[10:48] <|joe|> Schalken: i'd suggest sun 1.5
[10:48] <Trist_an> hello
[10:48] <mat__> |joe|: well, it says that it loaded it with 1280x800, but I don't trust, because my icons are so stretched...
[10:49] <Trist_an> I have uninstalled powernowd and I want to reinstall it. But now, synaptic tells me he will uninstall kubuntu-desktop. How can I just tell him to just reinstall powernowd without uninstalling kubuntu-desktop?
[10:49] <lunitik> |joe|: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin from multiverse and everything will be fine
[10:49] <lunitik> Trist_an: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[10:49] <|joe|> lunitik: and set alternatives ... right now i forgot how
[10:49] <harmental> |joe|: &  *
[10:49] <Schalken> |joe|: i have sun-java5-plugin and dependencies. path is correct ('java') and enabled globally, however, it does not show up when i do 'scan for new plugins' in the plugins side-tab.
[10:50] <lunitik> |joe|: that package automatically handles alternatives via the post-inst script....
[10:50] <|joe|> harmental: well i can't read it either :)
[10:50] <|joe|> lunitik: are you sure? i had to change it manually .....
[10:51] <|joe|> mat__: so try changing xorg.conf to 1280x768 and see if something changes
[10:51] <ortigosa> somebody knows where can i find themes for kubuntu???
[10:51] <harmental> i dont understand.....
[10:51] <mat__> |joe| again brb... =)
[10:52] <noiesmo> ortigosa, check out kde-look.org
[10:52] <ortigosa> than k you very much
[10:52] <Schalken> |joe|: anything else i need to do?
[10:52] <rolando_> no1 has a laptop with sd card reader?
[10:52] <rolando_> it worked with dappe
[10:52] <rolando_> r
[10:52] <|joe|> Schalken: i think that should be everything ...btw my binary in konq settings is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/java
[10:52] <rolando_> but now it wont work again
[10:53] <|joe|> rolando_: the only thing about built-in card readers in laptops is that they like to crash the comp
[10:53] <|joe|> rolando_: the only thing i know, sorry :)
[10:53] <rolando_> |joe|: it worked before
[10:54] <Schalken> |joe|: is it supposed to show up when i do 'scan for new plugins'?
[10:55] <|joe|> Schalken: i'm not sure
[10:55] <|joe|> Schalken: i did it maybe half year ago
[10:55] <Schalken> |joe|: does it show up on yours? all i have is flash and kaffeine plugins under 'netscape'?
[10:56] <|joe|> Schalken: the java settings are not in the plugins
[10:56] <Schalken> |joe|: okay
[10:57] <mat__> |joe| re
[10:58] <|joe|> mat__:
[10:58] <mat__> |joe|: it looks exactly the same... no difference... that sucks...
[10:58] <mat__> |joe|: well, at least it works!=D
[10:59] <|joe|> mat__: hm, but that's not good, is it :)
[11:00] <MRMorefield-ft> hhow to uninstal?
[11:00] <MRMorefield-ft> sudo apt-get
[11:00] <|joe|> mat__: so your X log says it's in 1280x800, but it's only in 1280x768, right?
[11:01] <mat__> |joe|: on my homecomputer I didn't got my soundcard working, THAT was annoying! In the end a friend of mine got i fixed... =)
[11:01] <mat__> |joe| looks like as i had school now... llap! *waves*
[11:07] <pred2k3> how to install rpms under debian?
[11:08] <|joe|> pred2k3: if you really need to you can use alien and hope everything works
[11:10] <suhaib> hi
[11:11] <lunitik> pred2k3: alien --to-deb some.rpm ... sudo dpkg -i some.deb
[11:11] <pred2k3> thx
[11:11] <pred2k3> ^
[11:12] <adam_> I have just installed edgy+kubuntu, and I am tryign to work out how to configure multiple panels in kde. I right click the panel, go to 'Configure Panel...', but tehre is no option to choose the other pannel I added. Anyone know where it has gone? Thanks.
[11:12] <|joe|> adam_: right click on panel and select add new panel
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> adam_: scroll down in the drop down menu?
[11:13] <lunitik> adam_: all configuration should apply to both panels... theres also an option in Kcontrol > Desktop > Panels > Appearance under "Advanced"
[11:13] <adam_> thanks. I have done that - I have 2 panels. but on the configure screen i can only change the first one
[11:14] <lunitik> That option is only applicable if its a menu panel though
[11:15] <ohmbr> hi, i'm having problems to configure abnt2 keyboards... does somebody could help me?
[11:15] <adam_> 'right click > add new pannel' doesnt seem to have an option for a menu panel
[11:15] <twosouls82> good day :)
[11:16] <ohmbr> where can i find a good tutorial about that?/
[11:16] <freewill> how shoud the thing look that i have to add like deb url edgy-backports... for libxine extras/win32codecs on edgy?
[11:16] <adam__> I have just installed edgy+kubuntu, and I am tryign to work out how to configure multiple panels in kde (I have already added an addition Panel). I right click the panel, go to 'Configure Panel...', but there is no option to choose the other pannel I added. Anyone know where it has gone? Thanks.
[11:17] <twosouls82> !restrictedformats | freewill
[11:17] <ubotu> freewill: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <adam_> lunitik: I was sure in pervious versions I could configure different panels independantly. Ie have one small one at the top, and one big on at the bottom
[11:19] <maryen> hi
[11:20] <lunitik> adam_: I'm not sure... I have a small menu panel and large regular panel though... perhaps this is what you did before?
[11:20] <twosouls82> what is the name of the tool that helps me cleaning up my installation, by asking me which package to keep, again?
[11:20] <Shaddar> anyone knows good how-to's for installing and configure kubuntu ?
[11:20] <twosouls82> Shaddar: any specific subjecy?
[11:20] <adam_> lunitik: Ok, thanks. can you tell me how to add a menu panel? it doesnt seem to be on the add new panel list
[11:21] <twosouls82> s/subjecy/subject
[11:21] <Trist_an> Is there anyway to have a shortcut in konqueror to disply the files in a list?
[11:21] <twosouls82> Trist_an: choose the detail view and then save the view in the Filemanager profile
[11:21] <Shaddar> twosouls82: not really ... want a stable system to work with
[11:22] <lunitik> adam_: KControl > Desktop > Behavior  "Application Bar" or whatever in the middle...
[11:22] <twosouls82> Shaddar: you should really check out the wiki of ubuntu; it has (almost) all your answers
[11:22] <Trist_an> twosouls82, that will activate this by default for all the time. I just want a shortcut so I can switch to details when I want
[11:23] <Shaddar> twosouls82: the how-to's there work for kde as well as for gnome ?
[11:23] <twosouls82> Trist_an: in that case, I guess, the answer is no... hence the shortcut isn't configurable for it the the "Configure Shortcuts" dialogue
[11:23] <twosouls82> -the
[11:24] <adam_> lunitik: thanks, but that doesnt seem to be it. it was definatly a seperate panel I could configure
[11:24] <adam_> thanks for the help tho
[11:26] <oswaldo> someone know configure devide on LTSP??
[11:26] <oswaldo> how cd-rom,floppy etc all this about client LTSP?
[11:26] <oswaldo> active cd-rom,floppy,pendrive in client LTSP?
[11:48] <|joe|> lunitik: i think you can't actually change settings for the menu bar, can you?
[11:49] <|joe|> lunitik: now i think this was what adam was looking for
[11:52] <Shaddar> am i connected to a network if wireless assistant says "successfully connected" but the little arrow beside the network is missing ?
[11:53] <hesperus_> hi, how can i burn bin/cue files in linux? i have k3b
[11:54] <lunitik> |joe|: you can change its appearence, but thats about it
[11:54] <lunitik> hesperus_: no idea, I use cdrecord myself... rather than have k3b do it...
[11:55] <[DOW] Shaddar|AFK> am i connected to a network if wireless assistant says "successfully connected" but the little arrow beside the network is missing ? (don't know if question was submitted before disconnect)
[11:55] <hesperus_> lunitik: any one-liner then? :)
[11:55] <lunitik> hesperus_: 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdwhatever --data some.bin some.cue' should be fine...
[11:55] <|joe|> hesperus_: isn't the .cue just a text file description? i think one can convert somehow
[11:56] <phubeone> hello, got a quick question
[11:56] <hesperus_> |joe|: yeap
[11:56] <phubeone> trying to install xgl
[11:56] <|joe|> and the .bin is actually .iso isnt't it?
[11:56] <phubeone> and i'm running this command
[11:56] <phubeone> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[11:56] <phubeone> and it says compiz package not found
[11:56] <hesperus_> |joe|: i'm not sure what format is bin exactly... it's as big as an iso
[11:56] <phubeone> i'm a linux noob and just following a guide at ubuntuguide.org
[11:56] <lunitik> phubeone: you need universe at least... although beware that compiz with kde is messy
[11:57] <|joe|> lunitik: hm what do you mean by appearance? i coultn't change anything about it (size, position, background etc)
[11:57] <phubeone> lunitik: ah i just want to check it out.  and what is universe =D
[11:58] <lunitik> phubeone: read the comments in sources.list and do what it says
[11:58] <phubeone> ah gotcha, thanks for the info
[11:58] <phubeone> gonna look that up right now
[11:58] <lunitik> |joe|: you can make it transparent etc... although all panels are configured to be the same afaik
[11:59] <Admiral_Chicago> phubeone: did you ask in #ubuntu-xgl?
[12:00] <phubeone> cool will do chicago
[12:00] <phubeone> thanks for pointing in the right direction.. just learning this
[12:05] <Admiral_Chicago> phubeone: yea i had a lot of help there, it took me a while to get it installed
[12:20] <khirr> ello, what proghram should i use to open rar files
[12:23] <Hobbsee> !rar
[12:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:23] <Hobbsee> khirr: ^
[12:24] <khirr> i0m cheking :D
[12:24] <khirr> eating tamal :D
[12:27] <khirr> doent exist this page ;S
[12:27] <khirr> without pointf :D
[12:28] <poe> hope they choke ya
[12:44] <MaterMaravillae> hi, do any of you guys have a geforce 6600 gt?
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> isn't this too much?
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> 63098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12619.496 FPS
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> (with glxgears -printfps)
[12:45] <lunitik>  ubotu needs a way to link to different wiki pages per channel... the rar factoid should link to something about ark... NOT gnome methods  :/
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs a way to link to different wiki pages per channel... the rar factoid should link to something about ark...  To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> reinstalling drivers didn't help
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> neither
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> im afraid its broken
[12:47] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: follow the instructions on the link ubotu posted above
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> thats why i dont understand so many fps
[12:48] <MaterMaravillae> ok
[12:48] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: first make sure your monitor specs are the same as you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: ubuntu doesnt always set the right refresh rates
[12:49] <MaterMaravillae> yeah i know
[12:50] <MaterMaravillae> what made me think the video card is broken is that i have the same problem in win
[12:52] <MaterMaravillae> im gonna take a look at the card
[12:52] <MaterMaravillae> thx guys
[12:56] <Electrolyte> Can anyone tell me why XOrg is using 10% CPU constantly?
[12:56] <Electrolyte> It never uesd more than 2% in Dapper.
[12:56] <Electrolyte> used*
[12:57] <lunitik> Electrolyte: no idea... you using compiz/xgl?
[12:57] <Electrolyte> Nope.
[12:57] <Electrolyte> Standard X.
[12:58] <lunitik> Electrolyte: fwiw, I think Dapper was the last Xorg maintained by Daniel Stone... he's pretty much an X god... so its hard to compete with his work... although I'm not sure thats the actual issue....
[12:59] <Electrolyte> It's annoying when playing a game like UT2004, as it causes the game to keep skipping every half a second.
[12:59] <Electrolyte> I have to keep restarting X to fix it :/
[01:00] <Electrolyte> Actually, it causes the whole system to skip every half a second :|
[01:03] <khaije> does anyone have an interest in explaining why flac in amarok has been broken for so long?
[01:04] <khaije> (or any advice on setting up kubuntu to use gstreamer)
[01:13] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[01:13] <delight> on first right click in konqeuror on desktop i either have konqueror crash or some strange warnings about DCopserver or some thing about snv entry
[01:13] <delight> svn not snv
[01:14] <delight> aanybody got the same problem
[01:14] <delight> ?
[01:20] <wildchild> which program is playing files like mediaplayer on the internet: x-mplayer2 maybe?
[01:21] <e1mer> hello all
[01:21] <e1mer> is there a tool to translate wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[01:22] <Electrolyte> Well there we go.
[01:22] <Electrolyte> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace fixed the X problem.
[01:23] <Electrolyte> Getting really cheesed off with it now.
[01:23] <Bora> es
[01:23] <Bora> hello
[01:23] <Bora> i need some help
[01:23] <Bora> :)
[01:24] <Bora> how can I set up the source list in kubuntu?
[01:24] <wedgeV> my X resolution gets changed to 640x480 once i log in, in KDM it is a 1680x1050... this never happend before, any ideas?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !repos | Bora
[01:25] <ubotu> Bora: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:25] <e1mer> is there a tool to translate wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[01:25] <MaterMaravillae> wedgeV take a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <Bora> thank you ubotu
[01:26] <MaterMaravillae> in modes, make sure the highest resolution is the first one
[01:26] <wedgeV> MaterMaravillae: it is
[01:26] <Bora> have a nice day
[01:26] <wedgeV> and it always worked fine
[01:26] <wedgeV> till now
[01:27] <MaterMaravillae> then i cant help you
[01:27] <MaterMaravillae> maybe your card broke up like mine
[01:27] <wedgeV> it works fine in KDM
[01:27] <wedgeV> eg: the login screen is in 1680x1050
[01:28] <yamal> wedgeV: if it has the correct size in kdm but not once logged in, then check the window manager's (kde?) settings
[01:29] <wedgeV> yamal: yea i did, but i can only select 640x480 and 800x600 in kde, and i have never been able to select anything else, but the resolution has always been fine
[01:29] <wedgeV> it even worked fine when i booted earlier today
[01:29] <gnomefreak> !fixres | wedgeV
[01:29] <ubotu> wedgeV: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <wedgeV> i already read that
[01:30] <wedgeV> and my xorg.conf is fine
[01:30] <yamal> the X server isn't the problem since it does work correctly when only kdm is started
[01:30] <wedgeV> yes
[01:31] <wedgeV> the KDE settings didnt have any effect. seems like they do now
[01:34] <yamal> wedgeV: quite some bugs reported on this subject :/
[01:34] <wedgeV> yamal: do you have a url?
[01:34] <yamal> do you have more than one screen in xorg?
[01:36] <wedgeV> no
[01:36] <wedgeV> one, with 1680x1050 as the first mode
[01:39] <yamal> wedgeV: launchpad bug #46875
[01:39] <yamal> seems similar but no solution alas
[01:39] <yamal> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/46875
[01:40] <yamal> and other than that changing works for them and doesn't for you
[01:40] <wedgeV> yes... i'll take a look at .kde/share/config
[01:41] <yamal> #60465 and #61482 are about not being able to change anything
[01:41] <lola> HELLO!
[01:42] <lola> IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN SPEAK ITALIAN?????
[01:42] <lola> i'm italian
[01:42] <yamal> !it
[01:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:43] <lola> thankkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:43] <lola> ciao
[01:51] <dude_> hi guys
[01:51] <dude_> abattoir !
[01:51] <dude_> jucato !
[02:08] <Daylighter> I upgraded to Edgy, and only have one problem. I dont have any sound when I try to view media in firefox
[02:12] <Daylighter> darn USB soundcards anyway
[02:15] <Daylighter> how do I find out what's blocking the sound card/making it busy?
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Any one owning an ipod here ?
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> !ipod
[02:19] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> ubotu, thanks :)
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <alynx> is the transaction from dapper drake to edgy eft smooth ?
[02:21] <alynx> is it just to change your sources list and then do an dist upgrade ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> alynx: no, that's not enough. Please read the upgrade instructions on kubuntu.org (in the channel topic)
[02:23] <alynx> apokryphos: ah thanks :) did not notice topic ^^
[02:25] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can see the boot messages during booting of edgy?
[02:25] <alynx> ill leave now , making the upgrade , thanks again
[02:26] <blackflag> there is always the screen is there a keyboard combination?
[02:27] <dhq> where can i get help with coppermine
[02:31] <|joe|> blackflag: i'd say ctrl+alt+f1
[02:45] <Jucato> does anyone know where (or what package installs) the contents of Quanta's documentation panel? (Kubuntu)
[03:03] <Lola> helllo!!!
[03:04] <intelikey> Clarabella
[03:07] <Clarabella> yess
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj
[03:12] <intelikey> well, i've ask this already but i'll ask it again.   howto set a veriable in a script that will still be set the next time the script is ran ?
[03:13] <ubuntu> alguien habla espanol
[03:13] <malix0> hi all
[03:13] <intelikey> !es
[03:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:14] <intelikey> malix0
[03:15] <malix0> I need to install debug simbol for kate, so I ahve installed kdebase-dbg, but there are no way to know package relation. I think that a kate-dbg meta package can be a good solution, what do you think?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> hey intelikey, gonna try to gigure out how to get permission to mount shared files on the network
[03:16] <BluesKaj> figure
[03:16] <intelikey> malix0 kdevelop  ?
[03:17] <intelikey> BluesKaj smbmount ?
[03:17] <Meekus> quick question... I just added some aliases in a .bash_aliases file.  Is there a service I can stop and restart to get those aliases loaded without having to do a reboot or logout/login?
[03:17] <malix0> intelikey: kdevelop for wath?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> intelikey, komba
[03:18] <intelikey> Meekus  . .bash_aliases
[03:18] <|joe|> Meekus: afaik the aliases are local to each bash process
[03:18] <|joe|> Meekus: so you'd need to load them in every bash you have open
[03:19] <intelikey> Meekus also they won't affect the gui only the bash shell  (login shells)
[03:21] <Meekus> Ahh ok.  That makes sense.  the goal was to save me a bit of typing - IE: alias sai='sudo apt-get install'
[03:21] <Jucato> Meekus: afaik, the .bash_aliases affects all Konsole sessions
[03:23] <Meekus> I'll play around with it and see what I can come up with.  hehe.. now I am trying to convince myself that I am making things more efficient.. rather than just being lazy lol
[03:23] <lupine_85> what on earth happened to #ubuntu ?
[03:23] <intelikey> Meekus script.   echo -e "#!/bin/sh \nsudo apt-get install $*" > sai ;chmod 555 sai ;chown root:root sai ;sudo mv sai /usr/local/bin
[03:23] <Jucato> lupine_85: why?
[03:23] <lupine_85> from my perspective there are two people in it
[03:24] <Jucato> 877 people...
[03:24] <intelikey> Meekus scripts are easier to play with for things like that.   and as soon as you put it in */bin/ it's ready to use...
[03:24] <lupine_85> ah, yes - konversation being sillty
[03:24] <Meekus> intelikey: I never thought about doing it like that - good deal!
[03:25] <Jucato> intelikey: #!/bin/bash in Edgy
[03:25] <intelikey> Jucato are you telling me that edgy totally breaks posix compliance ?
[03:26] <Jucato> intelikey: afaik, DASH requires more POSIX compliant scripts
[03:26] <intelikey>  /bin/sh   should be a valid inturpretor on any  *nix  system.
[03:26] <instructor> DASH isn't posix?
[03:26] <intelikey> instructor not haveing /bin/sh isn't posix.
[03:27] <lupine_85> dash doesn't work with lots of scripts
[03:27] <Jucato> intelikey: hm.. nvm... I think /bin/sh just links to /bin/dash
[03:27] <Jucato> !dash
[03:27] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:27] <Clarabella> dash
[03:27] <Clarabella> yasch yasch
[03:27] <Clarabella> amltreda
[03:27] <Clarabella> hionk doink
[03:28] <intelikey> lupine_85 the one i just wrote ^^ is the one in question and there is nothing in it that would give the most basic of shells any trubble.
[03:28] <Clarabella> mustrekionw
[03:28] <dimsuz> Hi! It seems like I cant find _any_ info on how update to Edgy using alternate CD. It is said everywhere that it is possible but not how to do this...
[03:28] <Jucato> Clarabella: please don't spam/flood
[03:28] <dimsuz> Any hints? :)
[03:28] <dimsuz> that's my first upgrade of kubuntu...
[03:28] <Clarabella> what?
[03:28] <Clarabella> me too!!!
[03:28] <micke\> I'm having problems with fullscreen in VLC, the panels in KDE stays above the picture. If I check the alternating fullscreen box, the fullscreen works for 0.5 seconds and then reverts to a small window
[03:29] <micke\> anyone know of a solution?
[03:29] <Clarabella> no
[03:29] <intelikey> Jucato unless i'm totally nuts (please reserve comments on that point) bash isn't required on a system to be posix-able  but sh is.
[03:29] <Jucato> intelikey: like I said, I'm confused :)
[03:30] <Jucato> intelikey: anyway, /bin/sh is just a symlink to /bin/dash
[03:30] <Jucato> in Edgy at least
[03:30] <intelikey> was in hoary too
[03:30] <dimsuz> ah. found
[03:30] <dimsuz> "/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[03:30] <Clarabella> abdull ashalad???
[03:30] <Jucato> intelikey: hoary had dash by default?
[03:30] <intelikey> and dapper    at least as an option.   default might have been sh > bash
[03:31] <Jucato> intelikey: yeah, I think hoary to dapper had /bin/bash by default
[03:31] <Clarabella> sallahashahshasasasasalslalsalllslallalsllfllaldslllhllsllallhlllsllallgllalalaldldldl
[03:31] <Jucato> intelikey: ah now I understand a bit...
[03:31] <Jucato> Clarabella: stop it
[03:31] <intelikey> and also  dpkg-reconfigure bash -plow    will let you set it to  sh > bash on edgy too  no?
[03:32] <Jucato> intelikey: some old (pre-Edgy) BASH scripts need to be edited to use /bin/bash in order to work
[03:32] <Clarabella> preeggyyyyyyyyyy
[03:33] <keb_> can someone help me why my winetools is not running?
[03:33] <intelikey> Jucato yeah because they are "bash" scripts  with a false #!/bin/sh  id tag.    there is nothing wrong with using  #!/bin/bash  1. if it's not a production script that needs to be posix compliand   2. it uses bash specific code.
[03:34] <tobias> hi, after updating to edgy i miss some systemsettings apps (display, drives&filesystems). anyone knows something about this?
[03:34] <nathan> tobias: those are under advanced
[03:34] <Jucato> tobias: try to check if kde-guidance is installed. and Disks & Filesystems is in the Advanced tab
[03:34] <Jucato> Monitor and Display is in General
[03:35] <tobias> nathan: i know that, the icons are there but they are not running.
[03:35] <nathan> ah
[03:35] <Jucato> tobias: try installing/reinstalling kde-guidance
[03:37] <intelikey> LALLY you must be really bored.........   no life outside the box ?
[03:37] <LALLY> no-.-