[00:03] <SomethingGeneric> Bashing-om, do you perhaps have an article on shrinking partitions, too?
[00:08] <Bashing-om> SomethingGeneric: See: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual .
[00:08] <SomethingGeneric> Thanks!
[00:09] <Bashing-om> SomethingGeneric: Also there is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GParted
[00:51] <nmatrix9> Hi all has anyone ever managed to get a usb to hdmi adapter to work in Ubuntu?
[00:51] <nmatrix9> From manufacturer Fresco Logic
[01:11] <nmatrix9> Or in general
[01:23] <barg> Why does echo `find .`  show new lines, even without echo -e ?  Whereas echo "abc\ndef" without -e, won't show new lines?
[01:27] <SomethingGeneric> barg how are you formatting that?
[01:28] <barg> $ echo `find .`
[01:28] <barg> contrast with $ echo "abc\ndef"
[01:29] <bencc1> I'm trying to output a service log with: "journalctl -u myservice > myservice.log"
[01:29] <bencc1> but I'm only getting part of the output
[01:29] <bencc1> how can I get all of it?
[01:30] <SomethingGeneric> barg: try "echo $(find .)" ?
[01:30] <SomethingGeneric> sorry for being late
[01:30] <hl521> Hey, coming from the #debian IRC, but seems to be a bit quiet atm. I'm facing a small issue on an install I have where there isn't a kernel nor initramfs in /boot, thus whenever I boot from my hard drive on my server I get stuck with the grub menu. Anyone know the fix for this? I'm ssh'd into the livecd which is already chrooted into the problem server
[01:31] <hl521> and here is the paste from /boot: https://bpa.st/DTZQ
[01:31] <barg> SomethingGeneric: that also shows new lines.
[01:31] <barg> even though the echo is without -e
[01:31] <SomethingGeneric> That's really strange. Hang on one sec
[01:32] <barg> hehehe
[01:32] <SomethingGeneric> barg, i take back my advice. "echo $(find .)" is probably just making your whole script worse
[01:32] <SomethingGeneric> what's the bigger context of what you're using it for?
[01:33] <barg> just that
[01:33] <barg> trying to understand what's going on
[01:34] <SomethingGeneric> unfortunatley i can't reproduce bc when i try "echo `find .`" i just get one giant block
[01:34] <SomethingGeneric> why wrap "find" in an "echo" ?
[01:35] <linext> does mark shuttleworth still pay for ubuntu development?
[01:41] <barg> SomethingGeneric: you could do it on a small directory with just a few files. What if you do echo `find .` (no double quotes)
[01:41] <SomethingGeneric> barg i was just using the double quotes to let u see what i was doing. wasn't actually inputting them
[01:41] <SomethingGeneric> but no, it's all one block of text for me
[01:42] <SomethingGeneric> again, why wrap "find ." in echo at all?
[01:43] <barg> to test echo
[01:43] <SomethingGeneric> Ah.
[01:44] <SomethingGeneric> I think the way I'd do that would be "for f in $(find .); do echo $f; done", but I know that's an un-necesary loop
[01:45] <barg> https://gist.github.com/gartha1/fa3d06cd0529a71572f94c9a0a365c5b
[01:45] <barg> i'm wondering why it'd be different for you
[01:45] <barg> can you share a gisthub link?
[01:45] <SomethingGeneric> yep. one sec
[01:45] <barg> thanks
[01:45] <barg> including the ubuntu version, thanks
[01:46] <barg> like i did that lsb_release -a command.. also on a small directory
[01:46] <LACampbell> if you have no sound except for the occasional loud pops, and the sound sometimes work and sometimes doesn't, what should you do? it's hard to google for. all the obvious stuff is sorted, pulse audio looks fine, new kernel, etc etc
[01:46] <barg> oh damn i see..
[01:46] <barg> i had IFS=','
[01:46] <SomethingGeneric> https://gist.github.com/SomethingGeneric/37f8aafb7b4082e538c3735a7fb95ac0
[01:46] <barg> when i unset IFS, then I get it in a block
[01:46] <SomethingGeneric> ^ barg
[01:46] <barg> thanks
[01:48] <barg> now unset IFS so should be like yours. Interestingly echo -e `find .`  still shows it in a block.
[01:56] <juanonymous> hi, im trying to install the latest ubuntu in my desktop. i made a bootable pendrive using rufus. but i get this error while running: 'SYSLINUX 6.04 EDD 6.04-pre1 Copyright (C) 1994-2015 H. Peter Aniv et al Failed to load ldlinux.c32 Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue' - im running it on an intel core 13 cpu with 8 gig ram and asrock motherboard.
[02:09] <nf9c> Is Ubuntu-Mate considered an Offical Ubuntu Flavor?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> !flavors | nf9c : yup :)
[02:14] <nf9c> ok thanks @bashing-om for the reply
[02:14] <Bashing-om> nf9c: :D Help is what we do.
[02:17] <nf9c> Had a bit of a struggle getting on here, not being used to HexChat but found the password field making getting my registered nickname recognized
[02:18] <nf9c> :)
[02:19] <nf9c> Does any monitor the ubuntu unregistered side of this chat room to help in situations like mine had
[02:19] <nf9c> i not been able to figure out how to log in?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> !register | nf9c
[02:24] <nf9c> like I said my nick is registered I am here otherwise apparently I wouldn't be. What I was struggling with at the beginning getting into this chatroom was getting the chatroom to recognize my registered nickname. I kept getting switched to my secondary user id choice because the first choice was already registerd...by me
[02:26] <nf9c> Luckily in hexchat I found the password field to put in my password had I not found that field I probably never would have gotten into this chat room lol
[02:28] <nf9c> It's been years since I have joined or been apart of any kind of online chat room board. Glad to know that they still exist that people still use them.
[02:35] <kZo> nf9c: oh yeah.  Long live IRC.
[02:37] <kZo> Lots of joins/parts in this channel.  Just had to turn them off.
[02:38] <nf9c> if you want to mention specifically someone here what is the best way to do so, so that, that person notices the comment?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> !tab | nf9c
[02:43] <nf9c> Bashing-om and ubottu thanks for your reply's/help
[02:45] <Bashing-om> nf9c: None of us were born knowing - I *DO* recall my confusions with my first irc encounter :P
[02:46] <nf9c> I am new in general to the whole Linux thing. Only been working with Linux OS's for about 2 weeks now
[02:47] <Bashing-om> nf9c: Once you get over the Windows mind-set you will be surprised how easy linux is :D
[02:48] <zap0> does new ubuntu distro come with gcc 10?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> !info gcc focal | zap0
[02:52] <nf9c> Bashing-om I suppose so. I actually have done things the hard way with getting multiple Linxus OS's setup I physically partitioned a 1TB hd to install the os's so far I have like 6 or 7 of them. 4 of them being different flavors of Ubuntu
[02:54] <nf9c> *Linux's
[02:54] <Bashing-om> nf9c: And you are learning a lot about grub - (GR)and (U)nified (B)ootloader :)
[02:55] <zap0> ok, so is installing gcc 10 trivial?
[02:57] <nf9c> @Bashing-om yep that's for sure I have installed a graphical bootloader manager because grub itself only supports like 5 linux + Windows for booting and I have surpassed that LOL
[03:41] <Roey> hi
[03:41] <Roey> I'm copying from one USB hard drive to  another, and the rate is so pitifully slow... why???   I'm measuring it with atop, and it's just.. like.. under 3 MB/s
[03:42] <Roey> how can I see which USB level the devices ar econnected at? maybe I connected one of them to a usb2 port??
[04:04] <tripelb> I want a notes program, simple more than just text processer that will make clickable links.  What is a good basic one  (like the Mac has had for over a decade...)
[05:04] <zap0> Roey i've always wondered that too;  each time i ask about it, most people say: each usb level will gravitate near it's limits, it should be obvious which it is because it's close to what it always is for that level.
[05:04] <Roey> ah
[05:04] <Roey> in my case it was becauas I had accidentally connected the target usb drive to usb2.
[05:04] <Roey> :P
[05:06] <zap0> i have badly labelled USB ports.  apparently somethign to do with colours of the plastic is supposed to tell you something.  i have yet to learn which colours mean what.
[05:08] <zap0> doesn't make much sense to me when the ports are on the desktop's case.. they all look the same.
[05:11] <Starship809> hi! i installed "pandoc" to my machine. how can i find out where it is located?
[05:12] <zap0> locate pandoc
[05:12] <Starship809> does not give me a result
[05:52] <ecbrown> Starship809: which pandoc
[06:21] <davido_> I'm having trouble with snap refresh: invalid credentials: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CQjjZ6fyfr/
[06:22] <davido_> Any suggestions on how to get it working again?
[06:23] <ThinkT510> davido_: run it with sudo
[06:24] <davido_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tCsdh7QfPt/
[06:25] <davido_> (same message)
[06:26] <Starship809> ecbrown i got that one fixed
[06:26] <Starship809> thanks
[06:27] <Starship809> now, i am tryint to convert from HTML to pdf with pandoc. when i execute this line from the shell as root, it works: /usr/bin/pandoc --from=html -s -S -o /tmp/pandoc5eb79dda21cac.pdf /tmp/pandoc5eb79dda21cac
[06:27] <Starship809> when i execute it from php, it does not work.
[06:27] <Starship809> whereas html to docx does work from php
[06:28] <Starship809> i suspect that my apache user does not have permission to all dependecies required for PDF conversion
[06:28] <Starship809> unfortunately, php's exec() does not really help me in terms of error message
[06:28] <Starship809> how can i simulate "being the webserver" inside the shell?
[06:31] <Starship809> i tried, sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/pandoc --from=html -s -S -o /tmp/pandoc5eb79dda21cac.pdf /tmp/pandoc5eb79dda21cac
[06:31] <Starship809> that does also work :|
[07:17] <ikonia> Starship809: try the guys in ##php - php's exec function is not something for this channel
[07:51] <blb4393> could somebody tell me what python3-cffi-backend is for? Package description doesn't provide enough information. There's no direct dependencies to this package but there could be some indirect hidden ones
[08:30] <xerox_> howdy, I am building a rust crate which fails because it can't find llvm-config, I installed llvm-10 but the installed binaries have -10 suffixes like llvm-config-10: I tried to figure out how to use update-alternatives to make links from bare names to -10 suffixed ones but it's just a hunch I don't know if this is the solution, do you happen to know?
[08:47] <tarelerulz> I have been trying for awhile to boot Ubuntu live install iso from grub and failing.  I don't know what I'm missing .  I get this invalid sector size 65535 , disk loop not found , you need to load kernel first .  I have copied Ubuntu's own directions.  are they not tested or not update ?
[09:14] <frostschutz> tarelerulz, works for me, you might have to adapt partition/location/filename https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sbfJbMwPmy/
[09:16] <tarelerulz> what is this part insmod part_msdos
[09:17] <Deknos> is anyone aware, why ubuntu/focal64 on vagrant always times out with ssh access? ist ssh in the vagrant box not installed?
[09:17] <tarelerulz> I gpt ,  fat32 , efi partition ,
[09:18] <frostschutz> tarelerulz, then you'd use (hd0,gpt1) if the iso file is on partition 1, otherwise use other number
[09:19] <tarelerulz> Ok, what is the insmod part_msdos for for what I have ?
[09:20] <tomreyn> insmod is a command to load kernel modules, "part_msdos" sounds like ti would support msdos partitions
[09:20] <tomreyn> AKA MBR
[09:21] <tomreyn> partition tables rather
[09:21] <frostschutz> insmod tells grub to load one of its modules. however grub usually loads the most common modules automatically, so its optional to specify
[09:21] <frostschutz> I don't have a single insmod in my grub.cfg and it works *shrug*
[09:22] <tomreyn> oh right insmod works for grub, too
[09:23] <calamity> hey, I'm trying to set up my Rasp Pi running Ubuntu Server, and I've used: iwconfig wlan0 essid "John & Smith" key "mypassword" but it says "mypassword" is an invalid argument
[09:23] <calamity> is there some way that I need to be formatting this since my essid has spaces and an ampersand in it?
[09:24] <tomreyn> try single quotes '' instead of double quotes ""
[09:25] <calamity> alright, I'll see how that goes
[09:26] <tomreyn> you can also make it two separate lines which may make it easier to identify the error
[09:26] <tomreyn> iwconfig wlan0 essid 'John & Smith'
[09:26] <tomreyn> iwconfig wlan0 key 'mypassword'
[09:27] <tomreyn> in this format 'mypassword' would need to be a hex key, though
[09:27] <calamity> hmm yeah okay the first part works, but it says the password is wrong
[09:27] <calamity> oh really? haha. I've just been typing a string.
[09:28] <tomreyn> quoting iwconfig(8): "You can also enter the key as an ASCII string by using the s: prefix. Passphrase is currently not supported."
[09:29] <calamity> I added the s: but had the same problem
[09:29] <tomreyn> where "passphrase" would probably be an ascii string containing blank spaces.
[09:29] <calamity> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key 's:mypassword'
[09:29] <tomreyn> try without the quotes next
[09:30] <calamity> yeah I also tried that, no luck :(
[09:30] <tomreyn> is it still the same error message, though?
[09:31] <calamity> "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument." - previously it didn't have the "set failed" part
[09:32] <tomreyn> which authenticatin schemes does your AP offer?
[09:33] <calamity> Not sure - how would I check that>
[09:34] <tomreyn> if you'Re not sure then it's probably (hopefully) not WEP and you need to read up on how to do WPA2 or WPA3 personal authentication instead.
[09:36] <tomreyn> or use one of the frontends for wireless configuration so you won't have to deal with the nitty gritty details
[09:36] <calamity> Oh actually, it says WPA2-PSK
[09:36] <tomreyn> network-manager has a cli called nmcli
[09:36] <calamity> Oh for real? I wonder why that didn't come up when I googled
[09:37] <tomreyn> there's also nmtui which provides some text menus
[09:38] <calamity> nmcli I'll try nmcli first and see how that goes haha
[09:38] <Deknos> nmcli is REALLY coo
[09:38] <Deknos> cool*
[09:38] <Deknos> you can even export or import network connections such as wifi or vpn
[09:41] <calamity> Okay got nmcli installed, when I run that it displays "wlan0: disconnected
[09:41] <calamity>         "Broadcom BCM43438 combo and Bluetooth Low Energy"
[09:41] <calamity>         wifi (brcmfmac), DC:A6:32:45:F7:5A, hw, mtu 1500"
[09:47] <tomreyn> !man | calamity
[09:48] <tomreyn> nmcli also has a "help" command
[09:53] <calamity> thanks, ill keep fiddling
[09:58] <tarelerulz> would this linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper toram  iso-scan/filename=$isofile noprompt noeject , make me boot into the ram the whole os?
[10:02] <EriC^^> tarelerulz: yes
[10:05] <doomlist3> hey
[10:05] <doomlist3> what is the syntax a=[1,2] to declare an array in bc calculator...
[10:05] <doomlist3> shows syntax error
[10:06] <calamity> I think perhaps one issue is that when I do "nmcli d wifi list", there are no results. it doesn't seem to know there are wifi networks
[10:07] <gst568923> Hi, I have this motherboard: https://pastebin.com/raw/ai20ks1B and I would like to know if it support hybrid graphic Radeon/Intel because I have read that northbridge chipset Intel Cantiga contains a video gpu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#Gen4
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | gst568923 start here
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> gst568923: we had some users in the past struggling with intel/amd hybrid graphics
[10:17] <gst568923> lotuspsychje ok sorry, my question was only to know if my motherboard supports this configuration, because if it weren't so I won't go into what I'm looking for
[10:55] <CQ2> hello, any askubuntu moderators here?
[11:07] <jeremy31> cq why?
[11:09] <Deano59> jeremy31: he's probably banned...
[11:14] <ubusr> hi, found another bug in 16.04 LTS :(  "file" app cuts the interpreter path
[11:16] <Deano59> ubusr: why are you using 16.04 LTS?
[11:17] <ubusr> this bug hapepns in 18.04 LTS as well, but not in 20.04 LTS
[11:17] <ubusr> Deano59: you must have missed the LTS sign, saying it's supported till 2021/2024
[11:17] <ubusr> some people like stable software that doesn't change too much
[11:17]  * Deano59 shrugs
[11:18] <ubusr> enterprise software and such
[11:18]  * Deano59 shrugs
[11:24] <ubusr> it's seems to be related that /lib64 is a link in ubuntu 20.04 (where it works) but on 16.04 and 18.04 it'snot (atleast in latest docker image)
[11:24]  * Deano59 shrugs
[11:24] <ubusr> ahh let's remember how to /ignore morons
[11:24] <Deano59> lol
[11:24] <Deano59> you shouldn't use such an old os.
[11:25] <Deano59> fact...
[11:25] <rudeguy> hi, is there any way to set mouse speed on the login screen?
[11:25] <diamondbond> rude i've actually wondered this too, would love to disable mouse accel on login screen as well
[11:25] <diamondbond> * rudeguy
[11:28] <rudeguy> knowing what exactly are you editing when you go through the settings program would probably be a first step...
[11:31] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:31] <greg> how do I set my clang version?  update alteratives not working
[11:32] <greg> I try https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hC3qhW8WT2/
[11:32] <greg> but clang --version still says 7
[11:34] <Deano59> morning BluesKaj :)
[11:34] <Deano59> you in #ubuntu-offtopic BluesKaj ?
[11:35] <Deano59> nope, you're not... :( had a question about PIA too.
[11:35] <BluesKaj> hi Deano59, no, but I'm in #kubuntu-offtopic \
[11:40] <greg> why is ubuntu such pain
[11:41] <Deano59> greg: it's not.
[11:41] <greg> I just want it to uses latest clang instead of one from 1992
[11:42] <greg> other distros you install new pkg it uses new one
[11:42] <greg> but not ubuntu
[11:44] <diamondbond> greg, use FreeBSD, clang is the only compiler now lol
[11:45] <greg> i dont have choice of os or id use anything else
[11:45] <diamondbond> afaik ubuntu 20.04's clang is at version 10
[11:45] <greg> so can can anyone tell me why update alternatives doesnt do anything?
[11:46] <greg> I can only use 18.04
[11:46] <diamondbond> greg, https://imgur.com/XR9APZA.png
[11:46] <diamondbond> greg, oh you're on 18.04 huh
[11:47] <greg> I have 10 installed but it still defaults to 7
[11:47] <greg> I try this nonsense https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hC3qhW8WT2/
[11:47] <diamondbond> hmm have you tried removing 7?
[11:47] <greg> but it dont do anything
[11:47] <diamondbond> hmmm
[11:47] <diamondbond> id suggest just removing clang-7 if you don't need it
[11:47] <diamondbond> also; https://apt.llvm.org/
[11:47] <greg> yes thats where i got 10
[11:48] <greg> but why is update alternatives doing anything?
[11:48] <diamondbond> ahh, im honestly not sure
[11:48] <diamondbond> maybe the syntax / file placement is wrong
[11:48] <greg> i have samecrap for gcc n its fine
[11:50] <diamondbond> greg, sudo update-alternatives --config cc
[11:50] <diamondbond> or sudo update-alternatives --config clang
[11:50] <diamondbond> then select clang-10 from the ncurses menu
[11:50] <greg> I cant run commands that require additional input
[11:50] <diamondbond> umm ;-;
[11:51] <diamondbond> is this a work machine?
[11:51] <greg> its travis-ci
[11:51] <diamondbond> oh
[11:59] <greg> Package 'clang-7' is not installed, so not removed
[11:59] <greg> lang version 7.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_700/final)
[11:59] <greg> jfc ubuntu
[11:59] <Deano59> what is clang?
[12:01] <greg> a c/c++ compiler
[12:10] <multifractal> Windows update has done it again!!!! GRUB is gone, and Boot-Repair is not bringing it back! http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KZM227y8nB/
[12:11] <BluesKaj> sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[12:13] <multifractal> BluesKaj: So you're saying boot up into the live environment from my 20.04 USB stick and run those two commands? I'll let you know what happens...
[12:14] <BluesKaj> multifractal, that or boot into the vt/tty , ctl+alt+F2-F6
[12:15] <multifractal> os prober said "/dev/sda2@/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi:Windows Boot Manager:Windows:efi"
[12:16] <multifractal> update-grub said '/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of '/cow'.'
[12:16] <jeremy31> multifractal: try changing boot order in BIOS
[12:18] <jeremy31> multifractal: look at the boot repair info, line 156-163
[12:20] <multifractal> jeremy31: OK I changed the order for ubuntu to come first and powered off and on. Now I'm confronted with a screen "GNU GRUB version 2.04, Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported..." and a prompt "grub>"
[12:20] <multifractal> Not the usual list of bootloaders to choose from that I'm used to
[12:21] <xnat834[m]> Have there been any changes regarding this?
[12:21] <xnat834[m]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1341944
[12:22] <xnat834[m]> There are probably still many of these 32-bit UEFI / 64-bit CPU devices around.
[12:22] <xnat834[m]> And the user has to manually edit their installation images to make them work on those systems.
[12:24] <xnat834[m]> I think Fedora has added support for this in version 27 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/32BitUefiSupport). Does Debian have it, too? I think at least. Some other distributions also support this.
[12:25] <jeremy31> multifractal: Where there any other ubuntu options?  I think you had EFI partitions on 2 drives
[12:25] <multifractal> jeremy31: no other options
[12:25] <multifractal> Windows Boor MNfwe, and ubuntu
[12:26] <multifractal> *Windows Boot Manager (pardon my typing)
[12:29] <CQ> jeremy31, I answered a question and showed how I debugged my way there, and the answer was deleted by a mod
[12:29] <jeremy31> multifractal: Might want to wait for eric to show up
[12:29] <CQ> jeremy31, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1229085/ubuntu-with-rodecaster-pro-usb-soundcard/1236257#1236257
[12:30] <tomreyn> xnat834[m]: i686 support has been dropped from current ubuntu releases, so working on supporting i386/efi is most likely not a top priority
[12:30] <tomreyn> (i386/efi systems are usually iX86 systems)
[12:31] <tomreyn> xnat834[m]: Debian is #debian (preferrably on oftc, i think)
[12:33] <CQ> jeremy31, (or anyone else) I would like to understand why. I can't see any guidelines I've violated and been as helpful as possible
[12:33] <CQ> afk, sorry, need to run
[12:41] <multifractal> Is it normal that every time I boot from the 20.04 USB I made it first goes through "checking disks"  every time?
[12:41] <ogra> yes, this is by design
[12:42] <ogra> you can skip it with crtl-C
[12:42] <multifractal> oh OK i thought this might be related to my boot problem
[12:42] <CQ> ogra, really? I thought only if improperly unmounted, or afte ra long time (180 days) without a check ...
[12:42] <ogra> it is for avoiding boot problems actually :)
[12:42] <multifractal> Errors found in 1 files. You might have problems - it says
[12:43] <BluesKaj> then you might
[12:43] <multifractal> Is it referring to my computer hard drives, or the USB stick itself?
[12:43] <ogra> the majority of installer bugs is caused by bad media ... this new default helps cutting down that amout massively
[12:43] <ogra> it checks only the USB stick
[12:43] <BluesKaj> depends on you boot sequence
[12:43] <BluesKaj> your
[12:43] <multifractal> oh ok i should make a new stick i guess
[12:44] <ogra> if you see a problem during the check, try to re-flash the USB stick
[12:44] <armasm> Hey. I have a problem with NGINX on Ubuntu Server 20.04. I want to use TLS1.0 up to TLS1.3 on my server, but regardless of the NGINX version (offical package or form nginx.org) server always responds with TLS1.2 only. Running NGINX with the same config on the same machine but inside docker does respond with all required protocols. I'm using `nmap
[12:44] <armasm> --script ssl-enum-ciphers -p 443 MY_DOMAIN` to verify that.
[12:44] <multifractal> i am getting as far as "Updates and other software" on the install wizard, but it hangs when i click continue
[12:45] <tomreyn> armasm: i would expect TLSv1.0 and v1.1 to be disabled on 20.04 system-wide
[12:45] <tomreyn> armasm: those are considered weak nowadays
[12:45] <BluesKaj> multifractal, don't think a new stick will solve this, it could be a problem with the internal drive boot file
[12:45] <armasm> @tomreyn but it should respond with TLS1.3 also, right? I have to support Android 4.2, there is TLS1.0 only.
[12:46] <multifractal> BluesKaj: So was the 'error found' referring to my computer or the stick??
[12:46] <BluesKaj> your pc
[12:46] <multifractal> someone above told me it was checking the stick
[12:46] <tomreyn> armasm: TLSv1.3 should probably be supported. i have not tested this myself.
[12:47] <multifractal> i'm in startup disk creator right now reflashing it just in case
[12:47] <BluesKaj> try booting without the stick
[12:47] <multifractal> BluesKaj: see above - i'm already in boot hell
[12:47] <DocMors> armasm, TLS1.0 is going to die very soon Apple for example remove support for it in March already
[12:48] <tomreyn> armasm: you could put a TLS temrination point in front of the ubuntu 20.04 system, possibly one running an older (but still supported) release.
[12:48] <multifractal> Would be even better if it could tell me what the "error" that it found was
[12:53] <multifractal> i just reflashed the installer usb with startup-disk-creator and ran the test option after it was finished. it launched a window labelled QEMU containing a nasty looking error about kernel panic or somethign
[12:56] <tomreyn> what is "it" that launched "a window labelled QEMU"?
[12:56] <multifractal> tomreyn: selecting the option to test the USB that startup disk creator just made
[12:57] <tomreyn> so it's an option in startup disk creator? i'm not familiar with this option then, must have been added recently.
[12:57] <multifractal> once it's finished it throws up a dialog with options like "test" and "exit"
[12:57] <tomreyn> on which ubuntu release are you running startup-disk-creator?
[12:57] <ubusr> did ubuntu 20.04 change /lib64 to by a symlink unlike ubuntu 18.04 or ubuntu 16.04 ?
[12:58] <multifractal> tomreyn: 18.04
[12:58] <ubusr> I want to trace when a bug was inserted to the "file" package, how can I go back and see where it happened ?
[12:58] <tomreyn> oh actually i've only used usb-creator-gtk
[12:59] <ubusr> is there an apt bisect or so ?
[13:00] <armasm> tomreyn, I know, but I'm trying to put this NGINX as a reverse proxy for the docker containers. Host (Ubuntu) runs docker, sshd, nginx, certbot and fail2ban only. Everything is on the same VPS. However, if TLS1.0 depracated and removed, there should be TLS1.3 available, but i can't get it working...
[13:00] <ubusr> armasm: maybe use trafeik ?
[13:00] <admin0> ubuntu 20, lxd is not working in my case ..  dhclient does not work,  manually setting up ip does not work ..
[13:00] <admin0> what i see is apparmor denined for network and dhclient
[13:01] <admin0> checking here if someone else also has experienced the same issue
[13:01] <tomreyn> multifractal: if the usb-creator-gtk test fails like this it's probably due to some other problem, i'd ignore it for now. just boot off the newly created usb and see whether it still reports errors during boot.
[13:03] <tomreyn> armasm: i believe that "i can't get [TLSv1.3] working" and "Everything is on the same VPS (aqnd thus I can't support TLSv1.0 and TLV1.1 and the whole thing is getting complicated to maintain)" are separate issues.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: to help the developers and debug yourself, maybe #ubuntu-devel might be interesting for you?
[13:03] <ubusr> lotuspsychje: yeah nobody is talking / answering there
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: its weekend, things might be slower indeed
[13:04] <ubusr> anybody here is running ubuntu 18.04 LTS not in docker ?
[13:04] <ubusr> ohh, forgot it's weekend in most of the world :)
[13:04] <ubusr> I wonder how much % of the world sunday isn't weekend
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: lets not discuss that here shall we
[13:05] <ubusr> k
[13:05] <ubusr> guess I'll move my image to ubuntu 20.04 for now until the issue is fixed :/
[13:06] <armasm> tomreyn, that was just a digression, I just want to be sure that everything with TLS on Ubuntu 20.04 is right, because I have those issues with NGINX. Thank you for your help.
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: do you have a bug ID on your issue?
[13:07] <ubusr> A. I want someone to verify it B. if it involves in registereding in another site, then I guess no
[13:07] <ubusr> but I think it's kinda of a big issue, feel free to open one
[13:08] <tomreyn> armasm: you're welcome. for texting TLSv1.3, i'd recommend using openssl or gnutls directly. if the system is reachable on the internet you could also use some online tests such as startssl.com's server test.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: maybe you could explain it first into the channel, perhaps volunteers recognize an existing bug ID?
[13:08] <tomreyn> oops i mean ssllabs.com
[13:08] <ubusr> lotuspsychje: when I run file /bin/bash (or any other ELF binary), the interpreter which runs the ELF path get's truncated: "/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/l, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=6f072e70e3e49380ff4d43cdde8178c24cf73daa, stripped"
[13:09] <ubusr> you see the /lib/64/l ? it's the start of the path, but not all of it, on 16.04 and 18.04 it's truncated, but on 20.04 it correctly shows: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[13:09] <ubusr> and it worked once (since I have scripts on 16.04 that depend on it working, and they stoped working)
[13:12] <ubusr> I'm wondering when did the file pacake update bork it
[13:12] <multifractal> OK so it hangs again on "Updates and other software" when running the ubuntu installer wizard. The next step ought to be the option to "install alongside windows 10" or "something else" page. But seeing as how there's some kind of catastrophe with how my computer is booting I guess it can't figure out what to do next?
[13:12] <tomreyn> ubusr: have you tried using readelf instead?
[13:13] <multifractal> This is a new USB stick I'm trying and it's hanging on exactly the same spot
[13:13] <multifractal> what the hell does windows update do to screw me over ho hard?
[13:13] <tomreyn> ubusr: GNU file is a many purposes tool, it may not be the best tool to reliably identify ELF file format specific details.
[13:13] <ubusr> tomreyn: nop, I have a script which already worked pretty good (and depends on file output)..
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> plz keep the language family friendly here multifractal
[13:13] <ubusr> tomreyn: worked perfectly fine for me\
[13:15] <tomreyn> ubusr: maybe you were lucky for a while. ;) but YYMV, good luck.
[13:15] <ubusr> yeah 2nd time i'm bitten by LTS :)
[13:15] <ubusr> the first bug is still open 3 month and pending....
[13:16] <tomreyn> !discuss | ubusr
[13:18] <ubusr> tomreyn: it is support discussion, or rather lack of
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> ubusr: we try to divide discussions from ubuntu support, hence why the channel pointer
[13:19] <rustyrocket> When starting a new Amazon Lightsail instance with Ubuntu installed, a certain number of conf files are changed from ubuntu defaults (/etc/ssh/sshd_config, for instance, has added an additional certificate for ssh access from their control panel).  I'd like to find a list of all conf files on the system that have been modified from their default values.  apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::--force-confnew install --reinstall -y
[13:19] <rustyrocket>  doesn't work (--force-confnew only applies when a version number has changed)
[13:19] <ubusr> k, I understand, I'll shutup about having an LTS issue with patch to fix it that's open for 3 month and I guess will be never fixed (cause nobody cares about 16.04 anymore0
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> lets discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss ubusr
[13:20] <rustyrocket> Sorry, find a list and then change (probably all) of them back to their default values.
[13:27] <multifractal> In some of the answers relating to this "hanging on Updates and other software tab", they say to mount/unmount the windwos partition in disks. how do i do this, i'm not seeing any option to do so?
[13:35] <multifractal> OK so after deleting the Ubuntu partition and rebooting, the install wizard was able to proceed and I'm back in the game. 20.04 and Windows 10 running in perfect harmony. For now........
[13:36] <zap0> well done.
[13:36] <multifractal> A bit disturbing that I had to nuke ubuntu, but it was a fresh install so nothing to lose. Would have been annoyed if there was un-backed up stuff (but I suppose I could have backed up from the live environment had I wished)
[13:37] <multifractal> thanks to everybody for trying to help
[13:42] <ubusr> multifractal: I've never managed to upgrade an ubuntu version without it borking my system anyhow
[14:26] <B0g4r7> I have a PC running Windows 7 with a USB printer connected to it, and I have it set to share the printer.  My MacOS X computer has no problem detecting and using the shared printer, but I can't get my Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 computer to see or use it.
[14:29] <B0g4r7> The "add printer" UI doesn't appear to have a provision to browse SMB shared printers.
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> B0g4r7: wich printer is this?
[14:31] <B0g4r7> Samsung ML-1630.
[14:31] <pongal> Hello, is it possible to set display scaling in Ubuntu to 110%. I am on Ubuntu 20.04 and I see we can either set 100% or 125% and more.
[14:32] <pongal> My resolution is 1920 on a 15" laptop and it hurts my eyes
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> B0g4r7: did you have to install the samsung drivers for it?
[14:33] <B0g4r7> I don't think I had to do anything like that, or if I did it was automatic and unintrusive.
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> B0g4r7: think you might need something like this: https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Samsung/Samsung-ML-1630
[14:35] <B0g4r7> Hmm, thx.
[14:35] <B0g4r7> I really should have just bought the 1630W, which has ethernet and wifi.
[14:35] <kenperkins> I've added two new printers lately, wifi has worked perfectly with my ubuntu clients
[15:10] <takov751> hello there
[15:10] <takov751> i have a problem
[15:10] <takov751> i changed my user shell to fish, and the user dissapeard form the userlist on the gdm login
[15:11] <tomreyn> takov751: undo the change, does it show up again then?
[15:11] <tomreyn> if so, how did you change it?
[15:12] <tomreyn> if not, what else had you changed?
[15:13] <takov751> tomreyn it does not
[15:14] <tomreyn> see above
[15:14] <takov751> `usermod -s /bin/fish $USER
[15:15] <tomreyn> use chsh next time
[15:15] <tomreyn> can you share the output of    getent passwd $USER
[15:16] <tomreyn> maybe you wanted to set it to     /usr/bin/fish    instead?
[15:19] <takov751> yeah i did changed it to that
[15:19] <takov751> however its still missing
[15:19] <takov751> from the gdm userlist
[15:22] <zutat> takov751: is fish listed in /etc/shells ?
[15:22] <takov751> yes
[15:22] <takov751> both /usr/bin/fish and /bin/fish
[15:32] <takov751> I am clueless now
[15:33] <takov751> Is there any way to add user back?
[15:42] <takov751> I am really confused now
[15:47] <rjwiii> Hello. I want to move my /home drive to a new harddrive. I found these instructions: https://www.howtogeek.com/442101/how-to-move-your-linux-home-directory-to-another-hard-drive/
[15:48] <rjwiii> My question is: Should I reboot to a root shell before I copy the files over to the new drive?
[15:49] <takov751> zutat tomreyn my user missing from the gnome user settings as well
[16:00] <takov751> Any ideas?
[16:13] <thallada> I'm getting a purple screen after starting up 20.04 with no login button. Any idea how to debug this? Idk what log to look at
[16:13] <thallada> I can still access Ctrl+alt+f6 tty
[16:20] <thallada> There's some stuff about gnome keyring failing because it cannot open a display in /var/log/syslog
[16:20] <flats> Good morning, I am running ubuntu 20.04 server.  I dont want to load a complete freenas OS but want to be able to use my home server as a dropbox sort of server that I can upload and download files from without a client.  I'd like to be able to use the web and also be able to upload and download via Android or IOS.  What  type of software am I looking for?
[16:24] <CQ> flats, look for nextcloud
[16:25] <CQ> ...or owncloud
[16:25] <ikonia> has owncloud had it's security tidied up now ?
[16:26] <CQ> no clue
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> thallada: do you have nvidia graphics card and auto login enabled?
[16:30] <flats> I thought Owncloud needed a client installed
[16:31] <xnat834[m]> <tomreyn "(i386/efi systems are usually iX"> A ton of them aren't. That's also mentioned in that issue.
[16:31] <CQ> without a client you might look at some webdav solutions
[16:34] <flats> Ok Thank you
[16:35] <thallada> lotuspsychje: I do have a nvidia card, but I don't think I have auto login. I normally enter my password in after booting up but that screen is never showing up.
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> thallada: doublecheck if you dont have the known bug #1845801
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> thallada: you can also try !nomodeset to see if you can bypass login
[16:38] <thallada> I don't think that's the same issue since they can get the login screen. `pkill gnome-session-binary` didn't fix anything
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> thallada: ok, tnx for testing, wich nvidia chipset do you have?
[16:39] <thallada> I have a RTX 2080 super
[16:39] <thallada> What's weird is that it was working fine until I booted up this morning. I'm guessing something updated
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> thallada: RTX needs the most latest driver possible, might need !nomodeset to bypass login and install your nvidia driver
[16:41] <Albright> What's the best way to see the "original" configuration files of something I installed (namely PHP)? I thought I was smrt and made the config directory into a git repo before hacking the files, but I screwed it up somehow.
[16:42] <shmoon> Can someone tell me the reason behind this bizarre behaviour (find command) https://pastebin.com/raw/9rnkt4ty ?
[16:43] <CQ> shmoon, try the search dir without the training slash?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> thallada: we also had users reporting weird behaviour with driver 440, so another driver version test might also be an idea
[16:44] <bitblit> is there a simple way to set a max cpu temp for thermald? i've been having no luck building a thermal-conf.xml...
[16:44] <shmoon> CQ: You mean the first command ? yeah it doesn't find then. what am i doing wrong ?
[16:45] <shmoon> Isn't find supposed to recursively walk the directory hierarchy and match files to the pattern provided ?
[16:49] <pmitros> I am considering getting a Radeon 5700XT. Does anyone know (1) How well Ubuntu 20.04 support it? (2) How well AMD does GPGPU on Ubuntu?
[16:50] <pmitros> Most of what I'm looking for is very good stability and ease-of-use. Beyond that, GPGPU would be nice, mostly with pretty simple matrix operations.
[16:50] <branon> what would be the canonical way to enable composited display in ubuntu/gnome 3 on an optimus laptop running nvidia's driver
[16:50] <branon> to reduce screen tearing
[16:51] <branon> some advanced options e.g. ForceCompositionPipeline do not appear in Nvidia X Server Settings applet for mobile GPUs
[16:51] <branon> so i am unclear on how to enable it
[16:51] <branon> if the answer is "use a (different|software) compositor" that is fine too
[16:52] <branon> enabling intel's TearFree option actually makes screen tearing worse
[16:55] <thallada> lotuspsychje: does seem to be nvidia-driver-440. I downgraded to nvidia-driver-435 and I get the login screen on startup now
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> thallada: ok, tnx for confirming that, like we noticed, more users were suffering 440 issues, not sure i pointed the right bug yet though
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> thallada: a new test would be re-switch to 440 now and see if you still can reproduce that
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> thallada: cause your RTX card will need to benefit latest driver possible
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> thallada: do you use scaling options?
[17:02] <thallada> Switching back to 440 works now, thanks for the help. I don't use scaling options
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> thallada: ok, tnx for the feedback and good luck
[17:02] <thallada> Monitors aren't recognized now but I hope i can figure that out on my own
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> thallada: maybe a replug or an xrandr --auto might do the trick
[17:08] <nael_n> Besides /var/log, what are the places where logs are usually kept? I'm trying to investigate an apparent system freeze, although it might just be a freeze of the input devices.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: try a realtime journalctl -f when you debug
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> nael_n: dmesg is also handy
[17:10] <CarlK> whats the command lines to format a usb stick to play nice with all the OSs?  like this, only bash: https://itsfoss.com/format-usb-drive-sd-card-ubuntu/
[17:11] <CarlK> nael_n: dmesg -w  "Wait for new messages."  has become my first choice
[17:15] <r15> hi, i have 2 interfaces,  one interface with single ip and 2nd interface with 2 ips, both needs to be vlan tagged.
[17:15] <r15> however only one ip is working.
[17:17] <nael_n> lotuspsychje and carlk: thanks. It would be in a post-mortem kind of situation, after rebooting the computer, because the input devices are unresponsive and the screen is locked (it's a freeze on resume). I can only take note of the time, and then try to look for events at that time in the journals
[17:20] <r15> not able to ping any gateway, however able to get ing response https://paste.centos.org/view/31a49395
[17:21] <r15> Checked https://netplan.io/examples#attaching-vlans-to-network-interfaces,
[17:21] <CarlK> nael_n: sudo modprobe netconsole netconsole="@/,@<host>/"
[17:22] <r15> my gw & network settings for netplan are : https://paste.centos.org/view/31a49395
[17:22] <CarlK> nael_n: find docs on netconsole - it blurts out stuff on the lan, maybe before the hang
[17:22] <nael_n> carlk: I use parted(8) and I suppose you'd have to use the fat32 filesystem. I've only ever used it in interactive mode
[17:23] <CarlK> nael_n: H have this hint from when I used it 5+ years ago: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/blob/master/setup/nodes/pxe/shaz/var/www/lc/netcons.sh
[17:30] <nael_n> carlk: interesting, didn't know about netconsole. This will prove useful
[17:30] <CarlK> nael_n: hope so.   and yeah, its super cool if it helps.
[17:39] <rjwiii> My move of /home to a new hd was successful ... problematic, but successful ... :)
[18:19] <memphisto> trying to install diablo2 on kubuntu 18.04, but playonlinux complains that there is no wine 4.5
[18:19] <memphisto> i've tried adding the wine reposityory, but the i get failed dependencies while trying to install wine 4.5 or any version
[18:19] <sammyg1321> Hey Guys! not sure why, when i watch videos i see like not lines but like some parts of the video not go smoothly, i think we would call that tearing
[18:22] <Lampion> Hello !
[18:22] <memphisto> sammyg1321: what video? youtube or some avi,mp4? maybe it's video codec, or maybe you need video driver
[18:22] <zutat> sammyg1321: intel graphics?
[18:23] <sammyg1321> Yeah id be youtube, and Nope, Nvidia GT 710
[18:23] <sammyg1321> should i paste my X Server config to pastebin?
[18:24] <memphisto> sammyg1321: you got nvidia propriatery drivers installed?
[18:24] <sammyg1321> right now its running the NVIDIA Metapckage 440 \
[18:26] <_Sym_> sammyg1321, try youtube with mpv
[18:26] <sammyg1321> mpv?
[18:26] <_Sym_> its a video player
[18:26] <sammyg1321> lemme do a quick search
[18:27] <memphisto> and that tearing happens only on youtube?
[18:27] <memphisto> if so, have you tried different browser ?
[18:28] <sammyg1321> have not tested other then youtube but CSGO i havent really seen that issue
[18:28] <sammyg1321> for MPV: dependency not satisfiable liblass 9>2:0.14.0
[18:30] <_Sym_> did you enable all the extra repos?
[18:31] <sammyg1321> sorry which? theres a mega pile of them in my other software window
[18:31] <m000gle> Would anyone here be able to assist with configuration of Chinese (Simplified) and English multilingual input, using Ibus Pinyin, on a relatively fresh installation of 20.04 LTS?
[18:32] <_Sym_> i mean multiverse
[18:32] <sammyg1321> lemme check
[18:32] <m000gle> I have been using Ubuntu for 10+ years, and have been using English and Chinese input methods for just as long, but I am unable to get the Ibus icon to appear and to get input switching to work on 20.04LTS
[18:32] <sammyg1321> multiverse is enabled yes
[18:33] <memphisto> sammyg1321: have you check your browser for hardware acceleration ? maybe it's disable
[18:33] <ThinkT510> !info liblass
[18:33] <sammyg1321> @memphisto lemme get back to you
[18:33] <_Sym_> restricted universe multiverse
[18:33] <sammyg1321> @memphisto it shoud be enabledc
[18:34] <alexa> Guys, I screwed up size of my usb drive. I can't remember how to bring it back to 8GB
[18:34] <alexa> it's 4MB now.
[18:35] <alexa> gparted sees only 4MB
[18:35] <alexa> parted rescue gave no results
[18:35] <sammyg1321> @memphisto yep should be enabled
[18:35] <alexa> I remember some years ago I could fix it
[18:35] <alexa> even mkusb didn't fix it
[18:36] <memphisto> sammyg1321: does it happen on local video files ?
[18:36] <sammyg1321> @memphisto lemem get back to you on that
[18:37] <memphisto> alexa: what does parted /dev/yourdisk  print   say
[18:39] <sammyg1321> @memphisto yep happens on local videos, just downlaoded one from youtbe and ran it and it still ahppens
[18:39] <memphisto> sammyg1321: but it doesn't happen on games ?
[18:39] <sammyg1321> @memphisto gonna check one secd
[18:40] <memphisto> while installation have you selected install 3rd party codecs and stuff
[18:40] <alexa> memphisto, it says: welcome to GNU Parted.
[18:40] <alexa> ;)
[18:40] <alexa> oh
[18:40] <alexa> I am dumb
[18:41] <alexa> you want me to get "print", will do
[18:41] <alexa> memphisto, https://pastebin.com/RNSRuDK4
[18:42] <sammyg1321> @memphisto still see a bit of tearing
[18:42] <memphisto> alexa: well, either is 4Mb or it's dead
[18:43] <memphisto> sammyg1321: get the codecs https://itsfoss.com/install-media-codecs-ubuntu/
[18:43] <alexa> memphisto, can't be dead. I used to have this kind of problem after putting OS on the drive few years ago
[18:43] <memphisto> try different driver version
[18:43] <alexa> I sorted it out somehow with parted. I can't remember how.
[18:44] <sammyg1321> brb
[18:45] <memphisto> alexa: i had that but it was fixed with specialies tools
[18:45] <memphisto> but i've found something on stackexchange
[18:45] <memphisto> https://superuser.com/questions/1086118/restore-the-size-of-an-usb-drive-linux
[18:45] <memphisto> try that
[18:45] <alexa> memphisto, thank you.
[18:46] <memphisto> try, and let's see
[18:48] <memphisto> alexa: let me know what's happening. got to know, and i have to go
[18:49] <alexa> memphisto, still nothing. I will reboot now, to see if anything will change.
[18:49] <alexa> memphisto, after I fix it, I will let you know how I achieved it. ;)
[18:49] <alexa> brb
[18:50] <memphisto> i'm sorry :( i won't be here
[18:50] <memphisto> whish the best
[19:12] <sammyg1321> hey im ack but i still dont see the codecs making a differenc e
[19:13] <coreyhuinker> 20.04: anybody else getting the notice that a snap needs updating (node.js/latest, edge, classic) but when you try to update it says that no snap can be found?
[19:15] <sammyg1321> i seems like it still tearing, dont know if that has to do something with gnome but yea its not clear, im not sure why this is happening
[19:23] <sammyg1321> anyone have any other ideas why my graphics keep tearing when playing games or playng videos
[19:34] <ledeni>   sammyg1321: can you give us --> lspci | grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d' | nc termbin 9999  share with us url
[19:34] <sammyg1321> one sec
[19:34] <sammyg1321> : getaddrinfo for host "termbin" port 9999: Temporary failure in name resolution
[19:35] <ledeni>  sammyg1321: termbin.com sorry
[19:36] <sammyg1321> https://termbin.com/lk15
[19:36] <sammyg1321> @ledeni https://termbin.com/lk15
[19:42] <ledeni>   sammyg1321: do you have Nvidia X Server Settings
[19:42] <sammyg1321> @ledeni yup :D
[19:43] <ledeni> sammyg1321:set PowerMizer to max performance
[19:44] <sammyg1321> ledeni: anything else?
[19:45] <ledeni> sammyg1321: no try now
[19:46] <sammyg1321> i think a bit better but still not fully there @ledeni
[19:53] <Deknos> how do i kill (like sigterm or stuff like that) a snap program?
[19:53] <sammyg1321> @ledeni could GNOME be causing this issue or should i be using the nouveau driver?
[19:58] <ledeni>  sammyg1321: can you again  open  Nvidia X Server Settings --‘OpenGL Settings’ and check the box next to “Sync To VBlank” to enable it
[20:00] <ledeni> sammyg1321:  you need reboot to take effect
[20:00] <sammyg1321> it looks MUCH BETTER
[20:00] <sammyg1321> Even without a reboot
[20:00] <sammyg1321> oh yeah much much better
[20:00] <ledeni> sammyg1321: great
[20:00] <sammyg1321> Thank you! @ledeni
[20:01] <oerheks> !cookie | ledeni
[20:02] <ledeni>  oerheks: thanks
[20:10] <sammyg1321> @ledeni yeah its still happening lmao but not on videos anymore. more in gaming now
[20:10] <sammyg1321> Sorry about that :/
[20:17] <ledeni> sammyg1321: terminal and open 'sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-modeset.conf' it will create file if not exist
[20:17] <sammyg1321> yep just created it
[20:18] <ledeni> sammyg1321: put this line in :options nvidia_drm modeset=1
[20:19] <sammyg1321> then write out?
[20:19] <ledeni> sammyg1321: yes
[20:19] <sammyg1321> time for reboot?
[20:20] <ledeni> sammyg1321: no yet sudo update-initramfs -u
[20:20] <sammyg1321> awesome! done
[20:21] <ledeni> reboot
[20:21] <sammyg1321> brb
[20:23] <sammyg1321> @ledeni yeah still see it on youtube videos even after reboot
[20:25] <ledeni> sammyg1321: using firefox
[20:25] <sammyg1321> @ledeni can test wqith that but ive been testing with the Teewords game and really with that i can see lines and video tearingh
[20:27] <ledeni> sammyg1321: you have same behavior with youtube too
[20:27] <sammyg1321> @ledeni yeh but less apparent, still there tho
[20:28] <ledeni> sammyg1321: first that try to fix firefox
[20:28] <sammyg1321> @ledeni lemme try installing firefox one moment
[20:29] <ledeni> sammyg1321: it is default web browser
[20:30] <sammyg1321> @ledeni i had chrome running and it as default, had removed the firefox package, testing now though one sec
[20:30] <sammyg1321> yeah can reproduce in firefox @ledeni
[20:31] <ledeni> sammyg1321:open preference
[20:31] <sammyg1321> in fox or system @lede
[20:31] <sammyg1321> @ledeni
[20:32] <ledeni> ) sammyg1321:  firefox scroll too Digital Rights Management (DRM) Content
[20:33] <sammyg1321> @ledeni checked it off
[20:33] <sammyg1321> *on
[20:33] <ledeni> ) sammyg1321: no check it is on
[20:34] <sammyg1321> @ledeni now on :D
[20:34] <ledeni> ) sammyg1321: try youtube
[20:34] <sammyg1321> still happening
[20:34] <sammyg1321> lemme play something and film it
[20:35] <ledeni> ) sammyg1321: don't need i believe you
[20:35] <sammyg1321> @ledeni haha alright, im not sure if its called tearing but when lots of elements mve its not smooth
[20:36] <ledeni> ) sammyg1321: how much ram you have
[20:36] <sammyg1321> 12GB
[20:38] <sammyg1321> @ledeni https://pasteboard.co/J7M517M.png
[20:47] <ledeni>  sammyg1321: Nvidia X Server Settings --Advanced --X server Display configuration -- Tick the boxes for “Force Composition Pipeline” and “Force Full Composition Pipeline” and then hit "Apply".
[20:49] <sammyg1321> @ledeni seems to be behaving
[20:49] <sammyg1321> @ledeni same on teeworlds so we shall consider this as resolved
[20:49] <sammyg1321> @ledeni thank you!
[20:54] <GLAT-agent> I'm selling GNU/Linux licenses
[20:54] <GLAT-agent> $99 for single computer
[20:54] <GLAT-agent> $49 for each computer when purchasing for 25 or more machines
[20:55] <ledeni> sammyg1321:finally
[20:56] <sammyg1321> lets hope its permanent @ledeni ;)
[21:02] <ledeni> sammyg1321 ihope so
[21:07] <mesaboogie> sammyg1321:finally
[21:09] <nikolam> hi. Does really archive.ubunt.com needs to go over http, instead of https ? Seems like my http speed it somehow capped to 3Mbit or so or is it repository limit or my routers limitin Http
[21:13] <mguy> nikolam: use apt-transport-https
[21:17] <nikolam> mguy, thanks. But to answer it, is http capped at Ubuntu archive or it's not, so it's some of mine local or provider issue
[21:17] <mguy> No. Maybe try another mirror
[21:17] <nikolam> ok mguy
[21:29] <nikolam> which jdk / jre to use? of just to install default-jdk ?
[21:29] <nikolam> is using newest openjdk better?
[21:32] <oerheks> !find openjdk
[21:33] <oerheks> default-jdk gives 11
[21:37] <orogor> hi , can anyone on focal run /usr/bin/apt | head -n1  ?
[21:38] <Deano59> orogor: apt 2.0.2 (amd64)
[21:38] <orogor> i think there s a broken mirror :/
[21:38] <Deano59> why?
[21:40] <tomreyn> orogor: if you'd like to share with us your APT package management system state (it doesn't change anything):    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[21:42] <orogor> tomreyn, apt segfault for me
[21:43] <orogor> dpkg works
[21:43] <Deano59> you broke something then
[21:43] <tomreyn> uh, what may have led to this situation?
[21:43] <Deano59> ^
[21:44] <tomreyn> cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:45] <orogor> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/oi68
[21:46] <orogor> tomreyn, just upgraded from focal
[21:46] <Deano59> from? or to?
[21:46] <orogor> to
[21:46] <tomreyn> lol, references to wily + yakkety in there
[21:47] <oerheks> wow, you are an old user :-D
[21:47] <orogor> then i try to wget the package and dpkg -i  to reinstall it
[21:47] <oerheks> great
[21:47] <orogor> i think this install is from the 4th realease of ubuntu, it s > 10Yo
[21:47] <Deano59> hahaha wow
[21:47] <oerheks> this is really neat, ubuntu is steady.
[21:47] <tomreyn> make sure your backups are current. and do a fresh install.
[21:47] <oerheks> but.. now you have an issue :-(
[21:48] <orogor> well .... it went throught a lot of great breakages
[21:48] <orogor> not going to reinstall
[21:48] <tomreyn> certainly you said this the previous 20 failed upgrades as well
[21:48] <orogor> yes
[21:49] <orogor> last one i had to copy every bin file from a live cd
[21:50] <orogor> my understanding is that prelink corrupted everything
[21:50] <orogor> and there were some incompatibility with amazon packages
[21:56] <orogor> something i dont understand , i download a package in 2.02, i install it and when i run it , it s 1.9.4
[22:03] <gebbione> filezilla gives me error "filezilla: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.28' not found (required by filezilla)" and i never managed to compile it from source without errors so I am wondering what is the best alternative
[22:06] <tomreyn> gebbione: so you're getting this error on your ubuntu installation, using the filezilla package it provides?
[22:06] <sharpertool> Greetings all. I recently install Ubuntu 20, and have been trying to get a working VNC connection up that uses gnome.
[22:06] <sharpertool> PS -- I posted this all over on #ubuntu-gnome also
[22:06] <gebbione> tomreyn, yep
[22:06] <nael_n> gebbione: filezilla can't find the distribution's libc? also are you looking for an alternative to libc or filezilla?
[22:06] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | sharpertool
[22:07] <tomreyn> gebbione: can you run this and post the url it produces? it gathers some info on your apt package management system, but doesn't change anything:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[22:07] <sharpertool> I have the vino VNC working fine, but my main computer has 4 monitors - so I'd lke to be able to launch 2+ VNC sessions, so I can have a couple of sessions across monitors.
[22:07] <sharpertool> Got it Re: version.. need to get that real quick
[22:08] <tomreyn> sharpertool:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[22:09] <gebbione> https://termbin.com/pqskn
[22:10] <sharpertool> It's just 20.04
[22:10] <sharpertool> @ubottu -- technically 20 is not imprecise, given there has only been one release this year, as far as I know.
[22:11] <gebbione> nael_n, sometimes back i tried to fix that GLIBC error but never managed to and never managed to compile it also
[22:11] <sharpertool> Back to my VNC issue though.
[22:11] <sharpertool> Everything works, except my ~/.vnc/xstartup which includes `gnome-session &`. This appears to start a display manager, but that is as far as it gets. I cannot launch any apps, or run anything, so no session, no login, etc. That is where I am hopelessly stuck..
[22:13] <tomreyn> gebbione: that's a lot of third party repositories you have there, chances are (at least) one of them is causing problems.
[22:14] <tomreyn> gebbione: generally you seem to be able to install (and remove) packages, though. so i suggest you review the PAs you have, use !ppa-purge to remove any you don't need (if any), do the apt --autoremove --purge full-upgrade
[22:14] <sharpertool> perhaps I should have stuck with 18.04 at this time..
[22:15] <gebbione> i must say most of the PPAs i know what they are for
[22:17] <tomreyn> gebbione: can you (install and) show output of apt-forktracer ?
[22:18] <thiras> hello how can i start .desktop file from different path than Desktop?
[22:20] <gebbione> https://termbin.com/xjjd
[22:20] <nael_n> gebbione: IIRC "dpkg -S filename" tells you which package installed filename, so you can find out whether your libc.so.6 library was indeed installed by the distribution's libc6 package or by one of your additional repositories
[22:22] <nael_n> gebbione: just suggesting because it would be odd if the version of filezilla that is packaged for Ubuntu doesn't play nice with the version of libc6 that is packaged for Ubuntu
[22:23] <tomreyn> gebbione: the packages returned by     curl -s https://termbin.com/xjjd | grep -v '\['      have no update candidates, those you seem to have installed manually at some point, or removed their apt repositories since. remove any of them you don't strictly need.
[22:24] <gebbione> nael_n, this is the output https://termbin.com/pu9o
[22:25] <gebbione> tomreyn, it is very likely they are manual installs as there is no repo indeed
[22:25] <gebbione> or i think for one i use an older version on purpose
[22:26] <gebbione> i need to check net.downloadhelper.coapp and libicu55
[22:27] <gebbione> i m sure i need them all libicu55 most likely is needed by php or mysql
[22:27] <tomreyn> libicu55 is probably a leftover from a previous ubuntu installation where the release upgrader didn't get to finish
[22:27] <nael_n> gebbione: so this file does come from a package called libc6:amd64, and now apt-cache policy libc6:amd64 should tell you which repo that package comes from? I think?
[22:27] <tomreyn> try removing it and you'll see what needs it.
[22:30] <tomreyn> and for nael_n's angle:    apt policy libc-bin libc6 libc6-i386 libc6-amd64 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:31] <gebbione> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r56XyK26qP/
[22:31] <tomreyn> unsurprisingly, nothing depended on it
[22:32] <tomreyn> you still haven't full-upgraded (and removed all the packages pending to be automatically deleted)
[22:33] <gebbione> i have run an autoremove while chatting here tbh
[22:33] <gebbione> should i still attempt a full upgrade?
[22:33] <gebbione> you mean `apt --autoremove --purge full-upgrade`
[22:33] <tomreyn> if you think your apt sources are fine then i think you should
[22:33] <tomreyn> yes
[22:34] <tomreyn> read before you press enter though
[22:34] <krytarik> How about showing the output of "apt policy filezilla" for once?  Personally, I'd be much more curious about that..
[22:35] <nael_n> krytarik good point
[22:36] <gebbione> https://termbin.com/w1ow
[22:37] <nael_n> gebbione: and you sure libc6:amd64 is also provided by the distribution?
[22:37] <tomreyn> and this?  readlink -f $(which filezilla)
[22:38] <gebbione> wait. i m wondering if a manual install of filezilla is conflicting here -> /opt/FileZilla3/bin/filezilla
[22:39] <gebbione> looks like a manual install to me, shouldnt a default install binary if you can call it as such under /usr/bin/filezilla ?
[22:39] <gebbione> but to be honest i might have tried to manually install it sometime ago
[22:39] <nael_n> "which" and "type -a" will tell you which one you're actually starting
[22:40] <nael_n> if you've got several filezillas
[22:40] <gebbione> yep i do
[22:41] <gebbione>  - /usr/local/bin/filezilla - /opt/FileZilla3/bin/filezilla but also https://termbin.com/38fj
[22:41] <gebbione> yes the snap install is expected
[22:42] <gebbione> i think i need to try them explicitly and see which one works
[22:44] <nael_n> printenv PATH to make sure which one you're running, then indeed try them out. Assumedly, dpkg -L filezilla will tell you that the distribution-provided filezilla is in /usr/bin not /usr/local/bin!
[22:44] <gebbione> i think i got it
[22:44] <gebbione> i need to remove a couple of them
[22:44] <tomreyn> usually 5 installs is sufficient per application ;)
[22:44] <gebbione> one just opened without problems the one at /usr/bin/filezilla
[22:45] <gebbione> lol
[22:45] <gebbione> most of them are there because i had a problem with the original install
[22:45] <gebbione> like the snap and the /opt one
[22:45] <gebbione> but i need to also remove the one under /usr/local/bin
[22:50] <tomreyn> the standard plumbers approach: tube leaks, let's just install4 others and surely one will work!
[22:51] <gebbione> maybe, i dont even remember if it was a leak
[22:52] <gebbione> not i need to work out with it gives me An error occurred loading the transfer queue from "/home/user/.filezilla/queue.sqlite3".
[22:52] <gebbione> other than this it works
[22:53] <tomreyn> if you don'T strictly dpeend on the transfer queue to be resoted, just delete the file or move it out of the way.
[22:53] <nael_n> glad to hear that - and that it wasn't more involved. Filezilla probably has forums/IRC to troubleshoot Filezilla errors, I suppose
[22:53] <gebbione> indeed what i m going to do
[22:53] <tomreyn> the currently working variant of filezilla is probably using a different sqlite table format that the one which wrote this.
[22:54] <tomreyn> *schema
[22:54] <gebbione> glad it works, i had also tried bareFTP but it is not as good
[22:56] <gebbione> ok time to go and watch some Ray Donovan ... night folks
[22:59] <orogor> tomreyn, haa i found the pb
[22:59] <orogor> it s dues to my last "fix"
[23:00] <orogor> when i copied over files from the live cd
[23:00] <orogor> i have a misshap between /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[23:00] <tomreyn> orogor: you're only sane fix is a fresh install
[23:01] <tomreyn> *your
[23:01] <orogor> well the system is a lot of a mess
[23:02] <orogor> there s app in /opt/ dockers and whatnot
[23:03] <tomreyn> is this an argument for or against reinstalling ?
[23:19] <orogor> find /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/  -newermt 2019-11-01 ! -newermt 2019-11-02 -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
[23:19] <orogor> trying a  reboot :p
[23:20] <orogor> haa ops


[00:42] <philipballew> what would you guys recommend I put on a laptop with 256(i believe) on it?
[00:42] <philipballew> unless you think windows 2000 is good. haha
[00:43] <pleia2> could give lubuntu a try
[00:45] <philipballew> would that run with 256 you think? i was possibly gonna try that. if that doesn't work i might try puppy or bsd?
[00:45] <akk> 256 what? Mb RAM?
[00:46] <philipballew> yeah.
[00:46] <philipballew> rem
[00:46] <philipballew> *ram
[00:46] <akk> Ubuntu runs okay with 192Mb if you don't run a big desktop like gnome/kde
[00:46] <akk> and if you don't run two big apps at once, e.g. firefox and openoffice
[00:46] <philipballew> I am considering installing only cli
[00:47] <akk> It'll run fine with CLI only
[00:47] <philipballew> the laptops point will be to stream music from a music server i have in another room
[00:47] <akk> and fine with a lightweight window manager too (openbox, ratpoison, fvwm, etc.)
[00:47] <akk> oh, yeah, don't even need a wm then
[00:47] <philipballew> whats the best way then to install ubuntu cli
[00:48] <philipballew> i can install one if i want but configure it to not start up and i have to startx to bring it up
[00:48] <akk> The alternate install CD has an "install commandline only" option that works pretty well
[00:49] <akk> except in natty, it's messed up and won't give you a login prompt, so you have to press ctl-alt-F1 and then edit a couple files after install
[00:49] <philipballew> alright. that should be easy but if i install cli only would it come with apps i dont need?
[00:49] <philipballew> i could just install 10.04
[00:50] <akk> IIRC the cli install installs some server stuff, but there isn't a lot of it and it's easy to remove if you don't want it.
[00:50] <philipballew> apt-get can do it all for me
[00:51] <akk> 10.04 boots way slower on a slow machine than 11.04, but otherwise works okay (and has better power management, not that it matters for a media streaming machine)
[00:51] <philipballew> why does a older version run slower?
[00:51] <akk> Hmm, wait, strike that, I'm comparing against the wrong distro, 11.04 isn't all that fast to boot either (but doesn't matter much for you).
[00:51] <philipballew> i plan on never turning it off
[00:52] <akk> I currently like debian squeeze a lot for old/slow machines and laptops.
[00:52] <philipballew> i can do that as well
[00:55] <philipballew> if i install ubuntu or debian i wont have to figure out the differences between cli commands on different distros
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> seidos
[03:01] <iheartubuntu> the man, not the myth
[03:04] <seidos> hey, iheartubuntu, how are you?
[03:04] <iheartubuntu> not bad, how are you?
[03:04] <seidos> good and bad, same as always
[03:04] <seidos> i was in downtown L.A. today, @ the new "l.a. live"
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> ohh how was it? i still have not been there
[03:05] <seidos> i visited FIDM
[03:05] <seidos> the best thing there is the theater and a starbucks
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> i was at an ice skating event during the winter, but didnt go across the street
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> haha
[03:05] <seidos> unless you're into pricey restaurants
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> isnt there a bowling alley there too?
[03:05] <seidos> ah, maybe, at the ESPN place
[03:05] <seidos> i should've checked that out
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> i just went bowling for the first time in a while
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> it was a rip off
[03:06] <seidos> i ended up going to this park after lunch which was cool
[03:06] <iheartubuntu> i spent like $160 to go bowling ???!!!
[03:06] <seidos> there's a bowling alley in my old town that has $2 tuesdays
[03:06] <seidos> i used to have my own shoes...i gave them away though.  i prefer miniature golf
[03:06] <iheartubuntu> 4 people, bowling two games plus shoes, plus balls, plus some beers and nachos. rip off
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> this place was a trashy bowling alley that was totally revamped... looked nice inside, but for a friday night it was empty
[03:07] <seidos> 4 nerf dart tag guns: $80.  dart tag at the park:  priceless
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> $3 bottle of ketchup
[03:07] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:08] <iheartubuntu> (for when you get hit by a nerf)
[03:08] <seidos> dude, stallman is good at spanish:  http://stallman.org/video/spain-protests-2011.ogv
[03:09] <iheartubuntu> ohh. i wanted ask u
[03:10] <iheartubuntu> i have access to a classroom... any size, to host some sort of ubuntu event at CSULA
[03:10] <iheartubuntu> would u want to work together on this?
[03:10] <seidos> maybe you could show the movie "Amistad"
[03:11] <seidos> sure, i'd just have to figure out how to get to CSULA
[03:11] <seidos> what did you have in mind?
[03:12] <seidos> did you hear about the homeowner that foreclosed on a bank in florida?
[03:12] <seidos> odd
[03:12] <iheartubuntu> ohh yah
[03:12] <iheartubuntu> great :)
[03:14] <seidos> btw, i <3 CSULA, i just don't have easy access right now since i don't have a car.
[03:14] <seidos> if it was a job interview it wouldn't be an issue, i could borrow the woman's
[03:14] <iheartubuntu> ok
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> dont know when i'll do it yet
[03:15] <seidos> i'll see what the bus route is in the meantime
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> maybe like a 20 minute intro, with some laptops, some CDs, some USBs, etc
[03:15] <seidos> my laptop isn't portable anymore
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> so in all like a 2 or 3 hour event
[03:15] <seidos> i have officially "grounded it", FAA, not in trouble
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> if it goes well, maybe try it monthly? or every other month? i dont know
[03:16] <seidos> yeah, hey, go for it
[03:16] <iheartubuntu> is there a way to pin tabs in chrome and have it saved for when i get home? or are pinned tabs exclusive to the computer im using
[03:16] <seidos> good luck, i mean, if you're enjoying yourself, why not?
[03:17] <seidos> i think it's exclusive
[03:17] <seidos> i'm not using chrome right now though
[03:17] <seidos> but, i mean, you'd have to save the configuration to "the cloud"
[03:18] <iheartubuntu> ok, i'll ask bob marley
[03:18] <seidos> let me know what he says
[03:18] <seidos> it'd be nice to hear from him in these troubling times
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> i will. right after i talk to the elves too.
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> Bob Marleys favorite version of Ubuntu is: 11.04 NATTY
[03:19] <seidos> don't talk to the elves, you could get thrown in jail
[03:19] <seidos> why's that?
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> natty?
[03:20] <seidos> ha
[03:20] <seidos> nappy
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> i was telling pirate jokes at a party on saturday night
[03:20] <seidos> it's a 1 hour bus ride to csula
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> it was going great until... about 2 minutes into it. then they got old real quick
[03:20] <seidos> bummer
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> you can do only so many AAAARRrrrrrr jokes
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> going to a Baaaarrrrrrr, driving a Caaaarrrrrr
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> etc
[03:21] <seidos> you should change it up, make it skull and bones jokes.  322
[03:21] <iheartubuntu> luckily no one had tomatoes
[03:21]  * seidos throws a tomato at iheartubuntu
[03:22]  * iheartubuntu ouch! but well deserved
[03:22] <seidos> "down with the union!"
[03:22] <seidos> i just saw "gangs of New York"
[03:22] <seidos> there was tomato throwing (and lettuce) in it
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> i havent seen that in a while
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> midnight in paris was good
[03:24] <seidos> that butcher dude was creepy, creepier than "the butcher" demon in diablo
[03:24] <seidos> hey iheartubuntu have you considered having an ubuntu event at your house?
[03:24] <iheartubuntu> my sister still plays that... on ubuntu now
[03:24] <seidos> cool.  i played warcraft 2, like one scenario.
[03:24] <iheartubuntu> i have not. i guess i could. the living room is covered in dust right now
[03:24] <seidos> it was slightly laggy
[03:25] <seidos> i should see about getting duke nukem 3d
[03:25] <seidos> i wonder how it would run on my notebook
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> sanding the walls where i just put in windows
[03:25] <seidos> ah
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> go for the original duke nukem
[03:25] <seidos> how's that going?
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> its going. i just dont have time
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> im at work still
[03:25] <seidos> i was looking for a multiplayer game
[03:25] <seidos> single player games bore me
[03:26] <iheartubuntu> that reminds me. i need to present my findings for the CA team game night at the next meeting
[03:26] <seidos> k^2
[03:27] <iheartubuntu> need to reboot. brb.
[03:38] <seidos> RMS' rss feeds are dreary today, there was a silver lining.  apparently california's lower house voted to ban trade in shark fins
[03:38] <seidos> but Obama bombing libya for oil and this WTO stuff is a bummer
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> yah
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> i was reading an article about the mexican drug gangs in mexico.. that is one messed up situation too
[03:42] <seidos> yeah.  "el mas loco".
[03:42] <seidos> i read about him.
[03:42] <iheartubuntu> im surprised ubuntu one does not have a mobile site
[03:42] <iheartubuntu> i just want to access my notes and contacts, not stream music
[03:42] <seidos> i get by without using ubuntu one...
[03:43] <seidos> a usb drive should do the trick
[03:43] <seidos> i guess they're more expensive than ubuntu one
[03:44] <seidos> eh, i guess i'm just not a "bleeding edge type"
[03:44] <iheartubuntu> what font type are you
[03:46] <seidos> fixedsys :P
[03:46] <seidos> that's the only one i can think of, really
[03:47] <seidos> i'm rewatching star trek voyager, maybe the star trek font
[03:48] <iheartubuntu> did u like the star trek movie last year?
[03:48] <iheartubuntu> i thought it was pretty good
[03:49] <seidos> yeah, it was all right
[03:49] <seidos> i've been skydiving, so the skydiving scene was interesting
[03:52] <iheartubuntu> thats one thing i wont do
[03:52] <seidos> yeah, i won't do it again
[03:52] <seidos> i don't see the point
[03:52] <seidos> if i could do anything again, it would probably be surfing
[04:20] <nhaines> Did anyone hear about the two guys who robbed a calandar factory?  They each got 6 months.
[04:20] <pleia2> sigh :)
[04:21] <akk> *brick*
[04:22] <nhaines> haha
[04:22] <iheartubuntu> I stood there wondering, “Why is that Frisbee getting bigger?” Then it hit me.
[04:23] <seidos> ha
[04:23] <seidos> i like frisbee
[04:23] <seidos> they had frisbee golf at golden gate park
[04:23] <seidos> when i would walk through the park i'd have to watch out when walking
[04:23] <seidos> there was one time that i realized i was standing in line of fire
[04:24] <iheartubuntu> then it hit you?
[04:25] <seidos> actually, never hit me
[04:26] <seidos> i was also meditating under a tree once, and a frisbee landed near by
[04:26] <seidos> i remember it was raining
[04:26] <seidos> well, i guess it hit me figuratively
[04:27] <nigelb> akk: lol, poor jokes get hit with a brick? :P
[04:27] <akk> nigelb: yep :)
[04:27] <iheartubuntu> id better not tell any pirate jokes then
[04:28] <nigelb> heh
[04:28]  * akk has been bricked more than once on another channel where it's a common reaction to such jokes
[04:28] <nigelb> who here's a fan of broadway and plays and muscials?
[04:29] <akk> A while back, but been out of it for quite a while.
[04:29] <iheartubuntu> A guy walks into a shrink wearing only bicycle shorts. the shrink says "well, i can clearly see youre nuts"
[04:30] <pleia2> musicals are good
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> i saw fiddler on the roof in SF last year
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> was good!
[04:30] <pleia2> nice
[04:30] <nigelb> I've been wwatching this one again and again, its from the opening of the Toney awards
[04:30] <nigelb> *Tony
[04:30] <nigelb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6S5caRGpK4
[04:30] <iheartubuntu> just saw a play here in pasadena a couple weeks ago
[04:30] <nhaines> The last musical I saw was Lion King, which was great.
[04:31] <pleia2> I want to see that, it's playing at mandalay bay in vegas
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> i went to a seafood disco last week... and pulled a muscle.
[04:32] <pleia2> nigelb: speaking of neil patrick harris, seen dr horrible's sing along blog?
[04:32] <nigelb> pleia2: No, link me :)
[04:32] <nigelb> pleia2: Also, Lion King musical sounds awesome
[04:32]  * nigelb <3 Disney Movies of the old
[04:32] <pleia2> nigelb: http://doctorhorrible.net/watch/
[04:33] <nhaines> pleia2: Lion King is worth it.  Also nigelb go watch Dr. Horrible.  It's 3 parts in 15 minutes each and it's great.
[04:33] <iheartubuntu> i went to the butchers the other day and bet him 50 bucks that he couldnt reach the meat on the top shelf. he said "no the steaks are too high"
[04:33] <akk> haha, this is great (only halfway through)
[04:34] <nigelb> oh bah, Hulu.
[04:36] <pleia2> yeah, I have it on dvd
[04:37] <seidos> iheartubuntu: mussels
[04:38] <seidos> i have big mussels, my name is russel
[04:38] <iheartubuntu> you have to tell it out loud i think.
[04:38] <seidos> i saw Dr. Horrible at the Egyptian Theater
[04:38] <seidos> along with some D&D thing, forget what it was called
[04:38] <iheartubuntu> in hollywood?
[04:38] <seidos> yeah, Hollywood
[04:39] <akk> Wow, that brings back memories
[04:39] <iheartubuntu> nice place
[04:39] <akk> used to love the Egyptian
[04:39] <seidos> by the same director, it was about these people that play MMORPGs
[04:39] <seidos> i was never in love with the Egyptian
[04:39] <seidos> gf won tickets
[04:40] <akk> When I was a kid I liked it because of the Anubis statues in the lobby. :)
[04:40] <seidos> i mean i didn't *hate it*
[04:40] <seidos> oh nevermind
[04:40]  * seidos throws his hands in the air
[04:41] <iheartubuntu> i saw a 3D film festival there a few years back
[04:42] <nhaines> pleia2: Dr Horrible's DVD commentary track was great.  :)
[04:42] <nhaines> Great Tony opening.  NPH is awesome but that kind of singing is extremely hard to do without a monitor.
[04:42] <nhaines> (Which makes him more awesome.)
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> wow, 2006 it was
[04:43] <seidos> what i meant to say were "the anubis statues were neat"
[04:43] <seidos> *was
[04:43]  * seidos laughs
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> list of the movies... http://www.3dfilmpf.org/3d-film-expo/trailers.html
[04:46] <seidos> i'm going to see 8 movies at the LA film festival this year
[04:46] <seidos> i'm looking forward to winnie the pooh :x
[04:47] <iheartubuntu> there is a french film festival coming soon to LA not sure when tho but soon.
[04:48] <seidos> oh great, Felicia Day's character's name in "Dr. Horrible..." is "penny"
[04:48] <seidos> her name might as well be "fiat currency" in this day and age
[04:48] <seidos> i decided to list out the 7 seals of revelation, apparently the 6th one is the most important
[04:49] <pleia2> one of my friends called MJ captain hammer, I laughed for like 2 days
[04:49] <pleia2> then asked him not to kill me
[04:49] <pleia2> ;)
[04:49] <seidos> pleia2: MJ is your man-friend?
[04:49] <pleia2> yes
[04:49] <seidos> ah, right, "The Guild"
[04:49] <seidos> that's what it was
[04:50] <seidos> maybe i would have remembered it if i had ever been in a "guild", or ever had played "guild wars"
[04:50] <seidos> Captain Hammer must be a Mason
[04:50] <nigelb> pleia2: haha, you should just call him "captain" hereforth :P
[04:51] <pleia2> MJ hasn't actually seen it
[04:51] <pleia2> I ruined my movie cred at home by making him watch too many horrible old movies I think :)
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> haha
[04:52] <pleia2> "we should watch 'dr horrible'" "eh.. maybe some other time..."
[04:52] <seidos> pleia2: like what?
[04:52] <pleia2> seidos: the brain that wouldn't die!
[04:52] <pleia2> the the like
[04:52] <seidos> pleia2: sounds horrible
[04:52] <pleia2> s/the the/and the
[04:52] <akk> pleia2: d is why I haven't seen many musicals lately.
[04:52] <akk> Men!
[04:52] <akk> :)
[04:52] <pleia2> haha
[04:52] <pleia2> +1
[04:52] <iheartubuntu> my sis has horrible movie tastes. i know better now if she recommends a movie not to see it. if she hates a movie i know i'll like it
[04:52] <seidos> i tried watching Rent when it came on t.v...
[04:52] <seidos> i failed
[04:53] <seidos> i liked that Tuscany movie...man, my memory is terrible
[04:53] <akk> He did sit through Evita a few years ago, but when I rented Sweeney Todd I had to watch during the day while he was doing other things.
[04:53] <pleia2> to be fair, he did go with me to see Tangled, and disney cartoons are all musicals :)
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> tuscany?
[04:53] <iheartubuntu> my wife likes under the tuscan sun
[04:54] <pleia2> I loved sweeney todd
[04:54] <seidos> iheartubuntu: it's like the best fem movie i've seen that comes to mind
[04:54] <pleia2> but johnny depp is dreamy :) even when crazy
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> what is
[04:54] <akk> I was so excited when there was finally a DVD of Sweeney -- I saw it as a teenager and loved it.
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> actually i like it too :)
[04:54] <seidos> pleia2: i saw the old sweeney todd in high school.  horrific
[04:54] <iheartubuntu> once you go tuscan you never go back
[04:54] <pleia2> seidos: old movie?
[04:54] <seidos> iheartubuntu: under the tuscan sun, thanks
[04:55] <akk> and yeah, johnny depp++
[04:55] <seidos> pleia2: yeah, along with metamorphosis
[04:55] <nigelb> iheartubuntu: Under the tuscan sun++
[04:55] <seidos> tim roth is in that one
[04:55] <iheartubuntu> i liked depps new movie in venice
[04:55] <seidos> pleia2: i think this is it:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084747/
[04:56] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: but so predictable! (I saw it on a plane recently)
[04:56] <seidos> i think "under the tuscan sun" inspired me to quit my job, move to australia, and write a novel
[04:56] <akk> I think Benny & Joon is still my favorite Depp movie.
[04:56] <iheartubuntu> a friend of mine just opened a new cafe in south pas. great food. he owns a couple of villas in italy about 50 min north of rome
[04:56] <seidos> it contributed like 15% to the decision
[04:56] <pleia2> Chocolat is a good Depp movie
[04:56] <seidos> ah, yeah Chocolat was good
[04:56] <akk> yes, it was
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> are u still working on the novel?
[04:57] <akk> Don Juan de Marco was good too (that was him, wasn't it?)
[04:57] <akk> I should rent that again
[04:57] <seidos> iheartubuntu: nah, finished it.  working on 2nd
[04:57] <seidos> haven't got it published yet
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> publish!!!!
[04:57] <seidos> probably need to get rejected 200 more times
[04:57] <pleia2> akk: ooh, I haven't seen it
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> use lulu.com or something
[04:57] <seidos> it was published, but http://thewebsiteisdown.com
[04:57] <iheartubuntu> self publish
[04:57] <seidos> i used feedbooks, i didn't like it
[04:58] <seidos> no $, or B for that matter
[04:58] <pleia2> nice, Don Juan DeMarco is on instant netflix
[04:58] <seidos> i could probably print out a copy
[04:58] <pleia2> so is benny and joon!
[04:58] <seidos> i'll repost it as soon as i get my old server over here
[04:58] <iheartubuntu> u need to make it available everywhere seidos. not just on one site
[04:58] <seidos> i'm not sure that i saw Benny and Joon
[04:59] <seidos> iheartubuntu: that's actually a brilliant idea
[04:59] <iheartubuntu> example for music is cdbaby. u upload your music there and they put it for sale on like 15 sites
[04:59] <seidos> i'll do that as soon as i get the data.  should be done on the 11th
[04:59] <seidos> i'm working on a 2nd novel, i have 2 chapters to go i think
[04:59] <akk> pleia2: Both of those were great roles for him (though "great role for johnny depp" is a pretty broad category)
[04:59] <pleia2> cool
[04:59] <seidos> a good old movie is "the tin drum"
[04:59] <pleia2> ok, dinnertime, later all
[04:59] <seidos> just as weird as the novel
[05:00] <seidos> salut pleia2
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> bye bye
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> ciao!
[05:00] <seidos> i watched the star wars clone wars cartoon in italian
[05:00] <iheartubuntu> are there screen adaptations of any of hemingways books?
[05:01] <seidos> farewell to arms was on the other day
[05:01] <seidos> not sure if you could sit through it, though
[05:01] <seidos> i couldn't
[05:01] <seidos> i couldn't suspend my disbelief during the xplosions
[05:02] <nhaines> I read an excerpt from Die Blechtrommel in class.  Wasn't sure I cared to keep going in German.  :)
[05:05] <seidos> i liked the movie better than the book
[05:05] <seidos> we read it in english class
[05:05] <seidos> i watched "the letter m" in german
[05:05] <seidos> it kind of was self-explanatory though
[05:05] <seidos> like spring,summer,fall,winter,and spring
[05:11] <akk> does that star Big Bird?
[05:12] <seidos> haha no, i wish it had
[05:12] <seidos> snuffalupagus even better
[05:13] <seidos> i think i have the title wrong, one moment
[05:13] <seidos> ah, yeah, it was just "M"
[05:13] <seidos> em, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022100/
[06:58] <nhaines> this: http://xkcd.com/912/
[06:59] <sn9> what about it?
[07:00] <nhaines> sn9: I'm glad I don't run into that more these days.
[07:00] <sn9> i kind do
[10:33] <iheartubuntu> ok
[16:17] <ryaxnb> so duke nukem forever scored 3.0
[16:17] <ryaxnb> :(
[19:26] <nhaines> You can watch the in progress lunar eclipse live here http://eclipse.slooh.com/ or here http://www.youtube.com/google
[19:28] <pleia2> cyprus has been doing a better job at keeping it centered (rather than default of dubai)
[19:28] <nhaines> I found that Dubai was a bit hazy, although they both appear better now.
[21:12] <nhaines> pleia2: Cyprus isn't doing so well at keeping the moon centered now.  :(
[21:12] <pleia2> yeah, where is the moon!
[21:18] <nhaines> Oh, it's back.  :)
[21:46] <nhaines> Here comes the moon again!
[21:49] <akk> shining on my head like a melody
[22:45] <yantrashilpi> hello all or whoever's in the room. does anybody here use ibus for multi-language input?
[22:46] <sn9> it tends to be crashy in maverick
[22:47] <sn9> i try not to use it
[22:48] <nhaines> I'm lucky (lazy?) enough that all my written language is done in Latin script.
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> hmm, i've used it in maverick flawlessly, in fact pretty much I think from 9.10 I've been using it successfully
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> except now I can't get it to work on natty
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> i don't see any input methods and I can't seem to select different input methods on the menu bar
[22:50] <yantrashilpi> seems like a unity related bug.
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> or just maybe the language box is not installing all the necessary files.
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> do any of you know where the unity/ibus people hang out?
[22:51] <yantrashilpi> which room?