[10:38] <Knelix> Question: How I "properly" (as opposed to "improperly") terminate a process (like folding@home) running in the terminal?
[10:38] <Guyver3> but with FAT it won't handle files bigger than 4 gb
[10:38] <somone> i understand the ubuntu need about 3gb freespace, but when i tray to instal, it's usk's for et list 9GB??
[10:38] <makkk> Guyver3, do you want to dual boot?
[10:38] <tommi^> Guyver3: if you are really going to make the switch, I suggest that you do backup of all your files and then just overwrite everything on your harddrive so that you are installing ext3
[10:38] <somone> i use FAT32
[10:38] <nalioth> Knelix: the polite way for a terminal app is "q" or "ctrl-c"
[10:39] <_mindspin> meer: eth1 is the usb device?
[10:39] <Knelix> nalioth: Okay. Thanks.
[10:39] <meer> yeah
[10:39] <meer> thats what i am using now
[10:39] <meer> the other one doesnt work at all
[10:39] <Guyver3> ext3 ok I'll keep that in mind
[10:39] <makkk> somone, does that include every single package possible?
[10:40] <somone> can someone help in a privert channel (i cant understand if you are speeking with me or not) :}
[10:40] <kemik> Guyver3:  only use FAT if you gonna dualboot
[10:40] <kemik> Guyver3:  ext3 for "linux"
[10:40] <garyc> thereauputic  I took out vsftp and put in proftp now give my ftp a try  <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:40] <Guyver3> no I'm planning for single boot
[10:40] <makkk> that seems like way too much space
[10:40] <_mindspin> you are sure, that eth0 fits into the socket? (because you mentioned there is no LED light)
[10:40] <kemik> Guyver3:  go for ext then
[10:40] <kemik> no reason using a crappy FS such as Fat/Fat32
[10:40] <kemik> gtg
[10:41] <Guyver3> so no one here know any program that burns .gi images?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> garyc: hey - tab complete with thore <tab> - I nearly missed that one :)
[10:41] <tommi^> Guyver3: yeah, ext3 installs as default with ubuntu and pretty much with every linux distro. Just remember to do backups and check that they are valid.
[10:41] <meer> _mindspin: if eth0 works fine there is a led which lights with connectivity but now its not lighting also. but whn i log in windows its working
[10:41] <_mindspin> ic
[10:41] <_mindspin> what chipset is it?
[10:41] <matrix> whats the default font size ?
[10:41] <_mindspin> i.e. which network card
[10:42] <garyc> thoreauputic, oooh  I have been misspelling your name all this time
[10:42] <tommi^> Guyver3: what are .gi images?
[10:42] <meer> oops how to check that, which networkl card
[10:42] <thoreauputic> garyc: login failed this time - anonymous ?
[10:42] <garyc> thoreauputic, I put in proftp but i dont know if it does anonymous
[10:42] <thoreauputic> ah
[10:42] <nalioth> garyc: check your config
[10:42] <_mindspin> open the box and have a look? ;-)
[10:42] <thoreauputic> well it tried :)
[10:43] <garyc> thoreauputic, try agora  and  agoramin
[10:43] <thoreauputic> garyc: agoramin as pass?
[10:43] <garyc> thoreauputic, yes
[10:43] <meer> its realtec semiconductor. a builtin card
[10:43] <somone> can someone help me pleez?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> k
[10:43] <_mindspin> realtec should work fine
[10:43] <Guyver3> it's a stupid format that some pirated games use, it's kinda new stands for global images made by sonic Record Now on the windows platform
[10:43] <somone> me?
[10:43] <meer> yeah it worked very fine but now not working
[10:44] <garyc> thoreauputic, what directories does it allow you to see
[10:44] <meer> last night when i shutdown also it was working but today it didnt
[10:44] <elkbuntu> does anyone know a fix for ubuntu not seeing/mounting IDE floppy drives?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> garyc: Login failed: 530 Login incorrect
[10:44] <meer> previously also this happened so i jus installed ubuntu again. i guess thats not a solutioin
[10:44] <_mindspin> try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:44] <elkbuntu> in hoary
[10:44] <meer> :)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> garyc: hang on I'll retry
[10:44] <Guyver3> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ maybe this might help elkbuntu
[10:45] <garyc> thoreauputic, should be  agora   then   agoramin
[10:45] <thoreauputic> yup
[10:45] <meer> i think all these happens during the booting up thing of the base
[10:45] <garyc> thoreauputic, what directories does it allow you to see
[10:45] <thoreauputic> garyc: wait please
[10:45] <meer> if i use that command will i loose this connection now
[10:45] <meer> ?
[10:46] <tommi^> elkbuntu: how do you not see them? Nautilus doesn't display them in computer: ?
[10:46] <duende> quick question, is ubuntu's version numbering based on year.month ?
[10:46] <_mindspin> meer: whats in /etc/network/ifaces ?
[10:46] <Seveas> !tell Guyver3 about ubuntuguide
[10:46] <elkbuntu> tommi^,  just wont mount
[10:46] <_mindspin> interfaces
[10:46] <elkbuntu> tommi^, i can see it in the 'my computer' thing
[10:46] <garyc> linner, I still have a private open to you
[10:46] <somone> enyone
[10:47] <thoreauputic> garyc: /home/agora  <--- working
[10:47] <linner> garyc:  beg your pardon?
[10:47] <tommi^> elkbuntu: what error message you get when trying to mount?
[10:47] <garyc> linner, do you want me to close it
[10:47] <makkk> somone, i messaged you
[10:47] <linner> garyc:  yes please
[10:47] <Guyver3> WINE is a linux program that emulates windows programs right?
[10:47] <nalioth> somone: ask a question. "anyone?" is very non productive
[10:47] <linner> garyc:  i wont' be able to access it for you tonight
[10:47] <julo> hi
[10:47] <Seveas> Guyver3, it implements parts of the windows api
[10:47] <Seveas> it mulates nohing
[10:48] <Seveas> and my keyboard misses keys apparently :)
[10:48] <thoreauputic> garyc: I can see the home dir including dot files etc
[10:48] <tommi^> Guyver3: Wine Isn't a Windows Emulator = WINE
[10:48] <Guyver3> heh
[10:48] <_eyez> what program can I use insted of eMule?
[10:48] <garyc> linner, that ok  i am closing the
[10:48] <julo> Could anyone tell me why flash and java plugins aren't installed by default in Ubuntu, even though they can be legally distributed ?
[10:48] <somone> when i tray to instal, it's usk's for et list 9GB??
[10:48] <linner> garyc:  understood
[10:48] <somone> whay so much GB?
[10:48] <concept10> julo, they cant be legally distributed
[10:48] <meer> mindspin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2581
[10:48] <thoreauputic> garyc: seems to be working fine
[10:48] <elkbuntu> omfg *note to self* do not just reach over to linux box and try insert a floppy, there's a floppy-sized gap just above the CD drive it can slip into
[10:49] <elkbuntu> almost lost the floppy into the depths of the box lol
[10:49] <somone> is ubuntu nned 9GB of freespace?
[10:49] <garyc> thoreauputic, does it let you up directory and can you see clemire or cydanderwon
[10:49] <makkk> somone, is that the size of the partition?
[10:49] <elkbuntu> somone no
[10:49] <nalioth> elkbuntu: horrors. you might have to open it and vacuum it out
[10:49] <garyc> thoreauputic, does it let you up directory and can you see clemire or cydanderson
[10:49] <thoreauputic> garyc: hang on
[10:49] <makkk> somone, ubuntu is not that large
[10:49] <nalioth> somone: only if you install the WHOLE thing
[10:49] <_mindspin> meer: you have dhcp running?
[10:49] <elkbuntu> nalioth, surprisingly it's quite clean. i only built it recently
[10:49] <thoreauputic> garyc: yup
[10:50] <somone> ubuntu install that i need et list 9GB, & wont let me select lower, whay?
[10:50] <makkk> nalioth, would it make 9GBs?
[10:50] <somone> tell*
[10:50] <garyc> thoreauputic, also a garyc dir
[10:50] <thoreauputic> garyc: 6 dirs including ftp
[10:50] <meer> that is for the network? i am using dhcp configuration for eth1
[10:50] <nalioth> makkk: if you installed all of uni and multi, yes
[10:50] <meer> is it that dhcp?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> yes I can see that - I'll try vd
[10:50] <thoreauputic> hah
[10:50] <thoreauputic> *cd
[10:50] <garyc> thoreauputic, I wonder if proftp can limit this
[10:50] <_mindspin> you have the nics bound to dhcp
[10:51] <nalioth> thoreauputic: is there something you're not telling us? ;)
[10:51] <thoreauputic> garyc: I'm in your home dir! mwuhahahaha!
[10:51] <makkk> somone, are you sure that this is not simply the size of the partition that ubuntu will be installed to?
[10:51] <julo> concept10: they are, according to Reinhard Tartler on ubuntu-devel mailing list...
[10:51] <meer> _mindspin: oops cant undertand that
[10:51] <elkbuntu> tommi^, 'Unable to mount the volume. There is probably no media in the device.' then show more details reveals 'mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device'
[10:51] <garyc> thoreauputic, i know vsftpd claims it can restrict people to only their own home dir
[10:51] <thoreauputic> garyc: don't worry, I promise not to tell ;))
[10:52] <somone> but i'm not askd how meny expentions do i wish to install, i shuse the deafolt settings...
[10:52] <somone> i chuse *
[10:52] <somone> i just press Enter & folow the instructions.
[10:52] <garyc> thoreauputic, try to make dir  or upload  I think it will tell you that you don't have permission
[10:53] <thoreauputic> garyc: sorry I logged out :(
[10:53] <thoreauputic> garyc: I expect you are right
[10:53] <garyc> thoreauputic, do you mind trying it
[10:53] <somone> ?
[10:53] <makkk> somone, i've installed the default several times, its not that large
[10:54] <_mindspin> :meer do you see the priv.msg?
[10:54] <garyc> you should be able to write to agora  and  make dir there only
[10:54] <makkk> are you installing the english verions?
[10:54] <makkk> version
[10:54] <somone> ok, then i will tray agin... and comback to say how did it go
[10:54] <somone> i'm using 5.10
[10:54] <Knelix> Well guys-- I think it's (past) time to call it quits for tonight. Thanks for all your help, as usual. 'night. :-)
[10:54] <AnkhWeasel> Well, that was a fun day.
[10:54] <AnkhWeasel> Had to reinstall both Windows and Ubuntu. >.>
[10:55] <elkbuntu> ubuntuguide.org only lists the word 'floppy' once :|
[10:55] <makkk> hm... I can only speak for 5.04, but still 5.10 should not be that large, that's unreasonable
[10:55] <bzimage> elkbuntu, in 2005 that's common
[10:55] <bzimage> :P
[10:55] <somone> that's what i was thinking, I'll give it another go.
[10:55] <somone> bye for now, and ty for the help.
[10:55] <elkbuntu> yes bzimage ... but it helps not in finding how to make an IDE floppy drive mount :|
[10:55] <makkk> np
[10:56] <bzimage> elkbuntu, ubuntuguide is not recommended
[10:56] <bzimage> (in the first place)
[10:56] <AnkhWeasel> Whyever not?
[10:56] <elkbuntu> bzimage, at times it is quite useful
[10:57] <elkbuntu> bzimage, such as to suggest firewall software
[10:57] <elkbuntu> bzimage etc
[10:57] <thoreauputic> garyc: I can upload to agora
[10:57] <AnkhWeasel> Sure, a bunch of it's outdated...
[10:57] <bzimage> elkbuntu, wel.. suggestion of firewall software? --> search with synaptic
[10:57] <bzimage> read the discriptions.. and install
[10:57] <bzimage> :P
[10:58] <trix> where is the terminal in kubuntu desktop?
[10:58] <elkbuntu> bzimage, just because you find something with synaptic, doesnt mean it's good. by reading resources such as ubuntuguide, you find what the popular ones are
[10:58] <trix> where is the terminal in kubuntu desktop?
[10:58] <bzimage> trix: utility---> terminal
[10:58] <thoreauputic> garyc: I can also upload to garyc, unfortunately :( I can delete as well
[10:59] <bzimage> trix: run command ----> konsole
[10:59] <elkbuntu> bzimage as far as i know, synaptic doesnt give human opinion
[10:59] <thoreauputic> garyc: I uploaded and then deleted
[10:59] <trix> tnx
[10:59] <trix> what is differnt between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[10:59] <bzimage> elkbuntu, well.. not quite correct.. it's the opinion of the creator of ubuntuguide
[11:00] <bzimage> not wich is the most popular
[11:00] <bzimage> ;)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> garyc: if you look in garyc you will see a thoreauputic directory, too
[11:00] <bzimage> trix, ubuntu uses Gnome desktop as default.. where Kubuntu uses KDE as default..
[11:00] <bzimage> trix, but from within ubuntu, one could install KDE too
[11:01] <bzimage> :)
[11:01] <thoreauputic> garyc: looks like you need more configuration...
[11:01] <nalioth> bzimage: not ubuntu from within kubuntu?
[11:01] <bzimage> nalioth, well.. yeah sure...
[11:01] <trix> i see
[11:01] <bzimage> it's both ways
[11:01] <bzimage> :)
[11:01] <bzimage> repos are repos
[11:01] <bzimage> hehe
[11:02] <trix> it is possible to install online games like ragnarok here?
[11:02] <bzimage> trix, so it doesn't matter really...
[11:02] <bzimage> trix, don't know that game.. but i am confident you can
[11:02] <bzimage> :)
[11:04] <bzimage> wb linner
[11:04] <linner> bzimage:  why thank you! :)
[11:05] <bzimage> :)
[11:05] <meer> anybody plss how to reinstall the network driver
[11:06] <_mindspin> meer: did you edit the /etc/networking/interfaces file as I told you?
[11:06] <ladyfei> hi
[11:06] <ladyfei> asl polz
[11:06] <ladyfei> serx
[11:06] <nalioth> ladyfei: not in here, please. in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <Licker> anyone know how to make a IRC script to counter Slaps etc?
[11:08] <bzimage> Licker, google and find
[11:08] <bzimage> :)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> ok time to go...
[11:08] <Licker> what would i lok up? IRC scripts?
[11:09] <bzimage> Licker, such queries
[11:09] <bzimage> yeah
[11:09] <nalioth> Licker: start at your clients homepage
[11:09] <bzimage> irc + slaps +script or something
[11:10] <fredforfaen> anyone here that has experience with burning dvd's over 6X?
[11:10] <bzimage> nalioth, good one :)
[11:10] <meer> anybody plss how to reinstall the network driver
[11:11] <barosl> is there any program that can capture xvideo output?
[11:11] <Ng> barosl: for a screenshot? or you actually want to capture that video data?
[11:12] <concept10> I love the way gnome 2.12 flashes the application on the taskbar but doesnt bring it into focus
[11:12] <barosl> Ng, for a screenshot. i want to capture mplayer of the desktop not using vo=x11
[11:13] <Ng> barosl: you probably want to point a camera at your monitor then ;/
[11:13] <barosl> Ng, oops
[11:15] <bobot> help! anyone used epson lx300 printer in ubuntu? Where can we find a driver?
[11:15] <weijie90> hi
[11:15] <weijie90> http://www.linux-printing.com
[11:16] <cef> if only there was some useful graphical snmp utils.. spose I'll just have to write one (or get someone to write one).. *sigh*
[11:17] <meerkat> heh, lx300 ... blast from the past ;)
[11:17] <weijie90> bobot: ops, its www.linuxprinting.com
[11:18] <ompaul> bobot, there are many docs on google I think you choose 24 pin and it works
[11:18] <trix> what is wine?
[11:18] <linner> trix:  wine stands for windows emulator
[11:18] <ompaul> bobot, it is a 24 pin dot matrix if I recall correctly
[11:18] <bobot> weijie90: thanks! i'll try it..
[11:18] <linner> trix:  it will run a limited amt of windows based programs
[11:18] <weijie90> no its "wine is not an emulator"
[11:18] <catfox> linner, stande for: wine is not an emulater
[11:18] <weijie90> like "gnu's not unix"
[11:19] <linner> it's not?????
[11:19] <bzimage> hehehe
[11:19] <ompaul> weijie90, are you sure about gnu?
[11:19] <linner> that's what i was told
[11:19] <weijie90> ya its not
[11:19] <linner> okey dokey
[11:19] <weijie90> u were bluffed... its a myth
[11:19] <catfox> its a re-implementation of the windows api
[11:19] <bobot> ompaul: i'll tyr it
[11:19] <weijie90> an emulator would work better
[11:19] <Chousuke> WINE is actually ambiguous
[11:19] <bzimage> WINE gets you drunk
[11:19] <bzimage> :)
[11:19] <Chousuke> weijie90: but it would be slower :P
[11:20] <linner> oh... i thought WIN stood for windows and E stood for emulator... that's how it was explained to me
[11:20] <Chousuke> and wine does do some emulation.
[11:20] <weijie90> but program support is complete
[11:20] <weijie90> haha... nice one
[11:20] <linner> trix:  i hope we're not confusing you more with our banter
[11:20] <Chousuke> linner: Then it would be WinE
[11:20] <Chousuke> or WE.
[11:20] <linner> Chousuke:  symantics
[11:20] <Chousuke> :P
[11:20] <Chousuke> WE are the borg.
[11:21] <bzimage> Chousuke, or MsE (Microsoft Emulator)
[11:21] <bobot> weijie90: its www.linuxprinting.org
[11:21] <weijie90> oh sorry
[11:21] <linner> trix:  bottom line it runs a very limited amount of windows programs
[11:21] <catfox> which mp3 player would you recommend for linux, anyone?
[11:21] <weijie90> rythmbox
[11:21] <catfox> sorry, i meant hardware player
[11:21] <Chousuke> bzimage: Nah
[11:22] <Chousuke> it doesn't emulate an Evil Gian Corporation (TM)
[11:22] <Chousuke> Giant*
[11:22] <ompaul> bobot, go for it, tell us how you get on, maybe even write it up on the website and we get the bot to point to it
[11:22] <weijie90> any one... as long as it has a normal usb flash drive
[11:22] <renjii> so anyone want to tell me whats wrong with w32 codecs? i got xine/w32 codecs installed and none of the codecs seem to work-
[11:22] <bzimage> linner, although.. if i read the mission statement on codeweavers.. wine should support all standard windows apps soon
[11:22] <weijie90> ubuntu should be able to detect it plug-and-play
[11:22] <nalioth> renjii: what platform are you running them on?
[11:22] <linner> bzimage:  great..... so what would be the difference then between wine and crossover office?
[11:22] <catfox> might get an iaudio m10
[11:23] <nalioth> linner: xover office has support attached
[11:23] <bzimage> linner, crossover is Wine with some addons.. (for configuring it, and installing software on it)
[11:23] <Chousuke> crossover is cool.
[11:23] <weijie90> but u have to pay to use it.
[11:23] <Chousuke> yeh.
[11:23] <bzimage> yep.. but not expensive though.. 35 dollar
[11:23] <linner> thank you :)
[11:23] <weijie90> haha....
[11:23] <meerkat> linner: crossover makes wine a little more user friendly ...
[11:24] <Chousuke> a little :P
[11:24] <bzimage> www.codeweavers.com -> crossover
[11:24] <bzimage> :)
[11:24] <linner> oh okay
[11:24] <_mindspin> does anyone here use crossover with lotus organizer ?
[11:24] <ompaul> wow a scrolling piece of text in web browser had my cpu up at 100%
[11:24] <linner> hehehhe
[11:24] <Chousuke> It doesn't necessarily support as many programs though.
[11:24] <Chousuke> especially games.
[11:24] <weijie90> some people dont have a credit card... and 35 US dollars is like 50 singapore dollars... not what a student like me can afford
[11:24] <bzimage> for gaming use cedega
[11:24] <linner> thirty five bucks is cheap to be able to not have to dual boot
[11:24] <Chousuke> but for the programs it supports, it supports them better than wine.
[11:24] <renjii> nalioth - ah, thats the problem....am helping someone run it on a standalone machine... on ubuntu of course.
[11:24] <weijie90> cedega costs too
[11:24] <Chousuke> bzimage: Not necessarily.
[11:25] <Chousuke> Depends on which games you play.
[11:25] <bzimage> Chousuke, no.. your right, smartass ;)
[11:25] <nalioth> renjii: amd64, ppc, or x86?
[11:25] <Chousuke> Older games work fine with wine.
[11:25] <onkarshinde> Does ATI binary driver supports ATI Radeon 7000?
[11:25] <Chousuke> no need.
[11:25] <renjii> d'oh. x86
[11:25] <bzimage> Chousuke, true......
[11:25] <Chousuke> you don't need the binary drivers.
[11:25] <onkarshinde> Do i need something else to take advantage of ATI 700?
[11:25] <Chousuke> you already have 3d
[11:25] <Chousuke> no.
[11:25] <trix> linner: how can i install wine?
[11:26] <linner> trix:  have you used synaptic before?
[11:26] <onkarshinde> Chousuke: My glxgears output shows 286FPS
[11:26] <weijie90> search google to get to its homepage
[11:26] <ColonelKernel> anyone familiar with xmame?
[11:26] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: are you using the radeon driver on X?
[11:26] <bzimage> trix: wich distro?
[11:26] <weijie90> go to the documentation and follow its instructions
[11:26] <Chousuke> it has 3d support. :)
[11:26] <bzimage> lols.. sorry.. ubuntu.. my bad.. (so many linux channels open)
[11:26] <linner> trix:  i would definitely go to their web site and find out if your program is supported first....
[11:26] <cef> there are also things like vmware or Win4Lin Pro.. but they all cost
[11:27] <onkarshinde> Chousuke: I havern't installed any extra package yet. I just added this card to my existing system and did a dpkg-reconfigure
[11:27] <weijie90> qemu with the acceleration module is free
[11:27] <bzimage> cef, but there are also free ones.. like qemu
[11:27] <linner> trix:  google codeweavers
[11:27] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: you need none.
[11:27] <cef> weijie90: very true..
[11:27] <Chousuke> onkarshinde: just select the radeon driver for X
[11:27] <bzimage> trix: www.codeweavers.com
[11:27] <cef> still from what I've seen, very slow
[11:27] <linner> bzimage:  exactly
[11:27] <bzimage> trix: www.winehq.com
[11:27] <onkarshinde> Chousuke: Then why 286 FPS?
[11:27] <Chousuke> Dunno.
[11:28] <onkarshinde> I mean output of glxgears
[11:28] <weijie90> it works ok too.. im using it to install windoze xp,, but its slow
[11:28] <onkarshinde> Anyone else specilized in ATI Radeon?
[11:28] <Chousuke> Maybe the card just sucks.
[11:28] <bzimage> ATI and linux are NO match
[11:28] <Chousuke> bzimage: wrong.
[11:28] <bzimage> RIGHT
[11:28] <bzimage> :)
[11:28] <Chousuke> bzimage: older atis work
[11:28] <Chousuke> he has a 7000 :P
[11:28] <bzimage> hmm...
[11:28] <bzimage> dang!
[11:28] <bzimage> :P
[11:29] <meerkat> best thing is just to leave all the just MS apps behind and moveover ....
[11:29] <Chousuke> something's just funky with his config.
[11:29] <onkarshinde> Is Radeon 7000 an old card?
[11:29] <weijie90> yes
[11:29] <Chousuke> anything pre-9500 is
[11:29] <cef> meerkat: unfortunately sometimes you don't have that option
[11:29] <bzimage> oh well.. i dislike ati on linux.. driver is crappy
[11:29] <bzimage> nvidia rules
[11:29] <onkarshinde> Do I need to add to xorg.conf?
[11:29] <bzimage> good drives
[11:29] <Chousuke> and soon there'll be support for r300 too!
[11:29] <bzimage> +r
[11:29] <meerkat> cef: true.
[11:30] <cef> bzimage: now that they've gotten most of the bugs and stack faults out of them *grin*
[11:30] <Chousuke> which means radeons up to 9800 and some x??? too
[11:30] <bzimage> cef, ?
[11:30] <Kuolio> wow, this is great!
[11:30] <bzimage> nvidia just works
[11:30] <Kuolio> just updated my breezy, and powernowd started to work!
[11:30] <bzimage> ati is trial and error
[11:31] <larsrohdin> Hi, is anyone here good at xfce4? the #xfce was kind of dead...
[11:31] <weijie90> xfce?
[11:31] <cef> bzimage: before about 2.6.8, they had a huge amount of stack overrun issues in the nvidia driver.. 4k stacks in the kernel got nvidia off their butts
[11:31] <weijie90> i hated it
[11:31] <trix> what is breezy?
[11:31] <Chousuke> xfce4 is wonderful
[11:31] <weijie90> its the latest version of ubuntu
[11:31] <onkarshinde> !breezy
[11:31] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:31] <bzimage> cef, ooh yeah.. your correct
[11:31] <weijie90> but its not official
[11:31] <larsrohdin> yeah I really like it
[11:31] <bzimage> but nowadays it works good
[11:32] <weijie90> no desktop icons in xfce!
[11:32] <larsrohdin> is it possible to make aliases for commands in xfrun? Like an alias in .bashrc?
[11:32] <cef> breezy works fine fo rme now
[11:32] <bzimage> larsrohdin, sure
[11:32] <larsrohdin> bzimage, how then?
[11:32] <bzimage> haha.. good one
[11:32] <bzimage> :)
[11:33] <weijie90> and xfce doesnt have enough toolbar icons
[11:33] <larsrohdin> aaawwww
[11:33] <henk> how do i tell gdeslets to start when i log in? of any program for that matter
[11:33] <weijie90> hi henk
[11:33] <bzimage> larsrohdin, it should be possible
[11:34] <henk> hi weijie90
[11:34] <bzimage> Nog een Nederlander
[11:34] <bzimage> :)
[11:34] <bzimage> hallo Henk
[11:34] <bzimage> :)
[11:34] <weijie90> hi boxerboy29
[11:34] <cef> bzimage: 2.6.12 and the nvidia driver seems a very stable combo so far
[11:34] <weijie90> hi twibbler
[11:34] <henk> hehe tja linux is hot in nl
[11:34] <nalioth> henk: System > preferences > sessions
[11:34] <boxerboy29> hi weijie90
[11:34] <twibbler> weijie90: morning .....
[11:34] <bzimage> cef, yep
[11:35] <henk> nalioth, ah nice thnx
[11:35] <nightswim> ?? acroread
[11:35] <nightswim> acroread?
[11:35] <nightswim> how does that bot work again
[11:35] <nightswim> ?acroread
[11:36] <bzimage> !acroread
[11:36] <ubotu> from memory, acroread is wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:36] <bzimage> there
[11:36] <bzimage> :)
[11:36] <nightswim> aah!
[11:36] <weijie90> im installing windows xp  in qemu... im seeing messages like "Windows XP helps make sure your computer "just works""... how ironic...
[11:36] <nightswim> thanks
[11:36] <bzimage> np
[11:36] <bobot> ompaul: thanks ompaul, but i'm not yet good in linux... but i'l try though. i din't make it with 24 pins...
[11:36] <twibbler> weijie90: isnt that a contradiction in terms ....
[11:36] <weijie90> yup
[11:36] <weijie90> lol
[11:37] <bzimage> twibbler, lol
[11:37] <nightswim> now let's hope that link will work
[11:37] <boxerboy29> just works=lowest standard???????????
[11:37] <Seveas> !forget !brownie17
[11:37] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot !brownie17
[11:37] <weijie90> nice one
[11:37] <nightswim> it seems to be dead from over here
[11:39] <weijie90> whats the most popular form of broadband modems? (USB/cable/network/etc?)
[11:39] <bzimage> weijie90, depends on the country
[11:39] <nightswim> does someone in here perhaps have that file :>
[11:39] <bzimage> ;)
[11:40] <nightswim> Seveas: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl does not seem to be working
[11:41] <nightswim> well, http'ing to it at least
[11:41] <bzimage> nightswim, its in the repos
[11:41] <ompaul> larsrohdin, for alias  edit .bashrc
[11:41] <ompaul>   file put in an entry like this >> shortcut='command -options' <<
[11:42] <nightswim> bzimage, which one? :)
[11:42] <bzimage> ehmm. dunno.. i have all official repos enabled
[11:42] <bzimage> (universe, multiverse and such)
[11:42] <ompaul> how the hell am I doing that - putting in line breaks in xchat without intention
[11:43] <weijie90> bzImage: what about in the us?
[11:43] <nalioth> nightswim: what did you want from seveas.ubuntubleh, ?
[11:43] <bzimage> weijie90, i guess cable
[11:43] <nightswim> nalioth: adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:43] <bzimage> its in the repos
[11:43] <bzimage> ;)
[11:43] <bzimage> somewhere
[11:43] <bzimage> dunno wich one
[11:43] <bzimage> though
[11:44] <nalioth> nightswim: ah, that isnt easily availabe as some of his other things are
[11:44] <jo_e> I get the following error messages when trying to upgrade or install firefox
[11:44] <jo_e> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[11:44] <jo_e> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[11:44] <nightswim> acroread_5.10-0.2_i386.deb sounds reasonable too
[11:44] <bzimage> jo_e, no copy paste in here!
[11:44] <nalioth> jo_e: read the /topic please
[11:45] <bzimage> nightswim, why would you use such an old version
[11:45] <nalioth> jo_e: it is very impolite to paste in chat channels
[11:45] <jo_e> bzimage, I have no web browser
[11:45] <nightswim> I dont know, I just would like any version really
[11:45] <jo_e> since firefox is not working
[11:45] <jo_e> well, I will leave then.
[11:45] <bzimage> pff.. weird
[11:46] <bzimage> quickly offended
[11:46] <bzimage> :S
[11:46] <deFrysk> :D
[11:46] <boxerboy29> took that a lil closer to home than maybe he should have
[11:46] <garyc> bzimage, hey do you know how to limit the ftp users to their own home dir
[11:46] <weijie90> bzImage: hmm... does ubuntu have plug and play support for that? if it does, thats great...
[11:47] <garyc> bzimage,   I am on proftp  now and it is working
[11:47] <boxerboy29> galeion should work on its own from synaptic?
[11:47] <garyc> bzimage, one user can see the other users home dir  including mine
[11:48] <weijie90> he must be root!
[11:48] <nalioth> boxerboy29: once you install galeon via synaptic, it will work fine
[11:48] <boxerboy29> yeah i kinda figured it should
[11:49] <bzimage> in proftpd you need to use DefaultRoot ~
[11:49] <bzimage> to jail users
[11:49] <boxerboy29> mine starts to try to load than says screw you boxerboy i dont like you and poof gone
[11:49] <garyc> bzimage, maybe it's a matter of user config in the system itself  and directory permissions
[11:50] <garyc> bzimage, hey there it is - jail users -  how do I do that
[11:50] <boxerboy29> i even added kubuntu desktop thinking maybe it was a kde web browser and still no luck
[11:50] <bzimage> garyc, set DefaultRoot path to ~ in the config
[11:51] <garyc> bzimage, do I set it in the proftp.conf file
[11:51] <bzimage> yes
[11:51] <bzimage> then restart proftpd
[11:52] <garyc> bzimage, is restart  invoke-rc.d proftpd restart
[11:53] <garyc> bzimage, do I have the syntax right
[11:53] <bzimage> garyc, sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[11:53] <boxerboy29> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2582    thats the error im getting
[11:54] <boxerboy29> when i try to run it from command line
[11:55] <bzimage> garyc, but your command does the same...
[11:55] <bzimage> '_
[11:55] <bzimage> :)
[11:55] <hansi_xp> :D
[11:56] <bzimage> although i prefer mine.. because there are more distro's... wich do not have invoke-rc.d
[11:56] <bzimage> that way you can move arround on many distros
[11:56] <bzimage> :)
[11:56] <henk> hey does gnome have a terminal-session dropdown menu thingy? (like konsole has for kde?)
[11:58] <bzimage> henk, why not use konsole then?
[11:58] <bzimage> :P
[11:58] <linner> hey guys.. I'm outta here.... wanted to say thank you so very much for the wonderful education.... I love talkin' with ya'll.
[11:58] <boxerboy29> linner bye
[11:58] <garyc> bzimage, I don't see a "DefaultRoot path"  statement that is commented out  -  can I type it in at the end of the file
[11:58] <linner> boxerboy29: night dearl
[11:58] <linner> dear even
[11:59] <henk> bzimage, i know just wondering if gnome had something similar. there are some things about konsole i dont like so maybe there is an alternative
[11:59] <bzimage> garyc, i would enter it just above the anonymous part
[11:59] <bzimage> (beginning of that block)
[12:00] <boxerboy29> anyone have a clue what javapluginfactory5 is and how do i get it if apt-get wont get it
[12:00] <garyc> bzimage, is it DefaultRoot path = ~   or do I have to type set Default....etc
[12:00] <bzimage> garyc, DefaultRoot ~
[12:00] <bzimage> not =
[12:01] <garyc> bzimage, that's it  --  just DefaultRoot ~
[12:01] <bzimage> right
[12:01] <bzimage> :)
[12:01] <jack-> proftpd?
[12:01] <bzimage> jack-, yes
[12:01] <jack-> you dont need to set defaulroot
[12:01] <garyc> bzimage, one moment
[12:02] <bzimage> jack: jailing users
[12:02] <jack-> only if you want a chrooted environment
[12:02] <jack-> ..yeah
[12:02] <bzimage> :)
[12:02] <jack-> just be aware that ~ will equal /root
[12:03] <jack-> since proftpd doesnt change its uid when a user logs in
[12:03] <bzimage> root shouldn't be able to use ftp at all
[12:03] <bzimage> (as login user)
[12:03] <jack-> thats not the issue
[12:03] <jack-> proftpd itself runs as root or not
[12:03] <bzimage> what do you mean then?
[12:03] <bzimage> ooh.. that..
[12:03] <bzimage> ;)
[12:04] <jack-> better specify an absolute path
[12:04] <henk> or use vsftpd which is very fast and acctualy tries to be secure :)
[12:04] <bzimage> jack-, i run many proftpds.. with root ~
[12:04] <bzimage> no problems so far..
[12:04] <bzimage> all jailed nicely
[12:04] <daejavu> guyz how can i backup all the stuff i get downloaded from Synaptic ?
[12:04] <jack-> ok then, tj might have changed it from 1.2.9 to .10
[12:04] <bzimage> (but running as proftpd.proftpd)
[12:05] <beruic> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu (and linux), can anybody help me?
[12:05] <deFrysk> !tell beruic about ask
[12:05] <bzimage> compiled it myself...
[12:05] <aftertaf> daejavu:  why would you want to???? but it is in /var/cache/apt
[12:06] <daejavu> aftertaf, i was thinking if it is possible to backup all of that so that in case i do a reinstall on the whole OS i can just use the backup to reinstall the packages i downloaded
[12:06] <beruic> I have just installed a maschine with a cd, and afterwards I added an extra harddisk. Why can't I see that harddisk?
[12:06] <jack-> because you didnt mount it
[12:06] <jack-> d'oh
[12:06] <beruic> How do I do that?
[12:06] <bzimage> jack-, come on.. be nice...
[12:06] <bzimage> :)
[12:07] <garyc> bzimage, I put that in just after all the anonymous stuff, which is all turned off by the way
[12:07] <jack-> mkdir /mnt/mydrive && mount /dev/partitionname /mnt/mydrive
[12:07] <jack-> as root
[12:07] <bzimage> (no offensive "d'oh" things)
[12:07] <beruic> I'm totally noob in the linux-world...
[12:07] <daejavu> aftertaf, anyidea how to do that ?
[12:07] <nalioth> beruic: there are plenty of useful things at wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:07] <garyc> bzimage, is there a file called welcome.msg in which I can place my welcome text
[12:07] <beruic> thx
[12:08] <jack-> read your /etc/fstab file
[12:08] <jack-> and add the new drive accordingly
[12:08] <jack-> then it will be automounted with the rest at boot time
[12:08] <aftertaf> daejavu:  duno if that would work. but you can get a list of all installed pkgs
[12:08] <concept10> is there a way to use evince as a firefox plugin?
[12:08] <bzimage> garyc, yes there is
[12:08] <aftertaf> for that purpose
[12:08] <daejavu> humm sounds ok .. how do i do that ?
[12:08] <garyc> bzimage, I can't find it
[12:09] <bzimage> create one
[12:09] <garyc> bzimage, I looked in etc
[12:09] <bzimage> ;)
[12:09] <daejavu> aftertaf, humm sounds ok .. how do i do that ?
[12:09] <garyc> bzimage, should it go in /etc
[12:09] <aftertaf> daejavu:  i dont actually know.... :/  i remember s/one mentioning it once
[12:10] <daejavu> okie dokie ..
[12:10] <henk> is it possible to define keyboard-shortcuts using more than 1 key? the keyboard shotcuts tool doesn't appear to let me define thing like ctrl+alt+F12 etc
[12:12] <aftertaf> but aska round. someone will know ;)
[12:14] <daejavu> anyone knows how to get list of downloaded packages from Synaptic ?
[12:14] <vinboy> hi
[12:14] <vinboy> my Software update manaager says there is a new linux-image
[12:14] <vinboy> should I update it?
[12:15] <vinboy> i have seen some ppl run into problem after updatiing
[12:15] <nalioth> vinboy: people run into problems from turning their machines off
[12:15] <cafuego_> you on breezy?
[12:15] <daejavu> wow .. is it my net or this place just went Quite all of the suden .. lolz
[12:16] <vinboy> nalioth, what do u mean?
[12:16] <nalioth> vinboy: are you using breezy?
[12:17] <vinboy> nalioth, nope.. i'm using hoary
[12:17] <cafuego_> vinboy: You should be fine, then.
[12:18] <vinboy> oh.. ok
[12:18] <vinboy> so.. i'll go update
[12:18] <vinboy> and blame u on disaster :D
[12:18] <dducko> I was wondering if someone might know a program I can use.
[12:18] <dducko> I am in a gaming group and a server is hosted on a remote computer
[12:18] <cafuego_> blame as much as you like I have indemity insurance
[12:18] <dducko> its a dynamic ip, and it seems its changed.. and the person that has it is fast asleep for several more hours
[12:19] <dducko> is there a port scanner I can use to scan.. Basicly class b address.. just need to check 1 port
[12:19] <cafuego_> dducko: nmap
[12:20] <ompaul> vinboy, take the same attitude with MS and see where it gets you
[12:20] <dducko> thanks
[12:20] <cafuego_> dducko: When said guy wakes up, tell him about dyndns.
[12:20] <henk> dducko, you want to scan an intire range of ips on a ISP network to find what IP that box got ? hope they have a lousy abuse departmen
[12:20] <dducko> yeah.. its been mentioned before..
[12:20] <cafuego_> henk: most do <heh>
[12:21] <dducko> i can shorten to oh.. about 5k addresses.. instead of 70K
[12:21] <henk> cafuego, heh
[12:22] <cafuego_> Hmm, suddenly Evolution has started threading
[12:23] <ompaul> dducko, you may end up with no bandwidthread your isps aup before you do such a beastie
[12:24] <ompaul> dducko,  bandwidth read
[12:24] <talios> hey crimsun
[12:24] <crimsun> hey talios
[12:25] <cafuego_> talios: it's broken.
[12:25] <cafuego_> talios: 0.0.13 was fine, 0.1.0 is dead.
[12:26] <talios> cafuego, I'm more hmm'ing cause I've never really used it - but I always note than the first time I do a search it tells me the daemon isn't running.  I guess theres some "run on login" setting somewhere?
[12:27] <cafuego_> talios: yes, except that doesn't work at the moment. System -> Prefs -> Search & Indexing
[12:27] <hutgyrr> im trying to use cp -R to copy a folder over the network. It sin the format user's files. 'user\'s files' doesn't work though. What should I use?
[12:29] <henk> is it poissble to define shotkut combinations with the windows key on the keyboard? or is that only possible to do with alt and ctrl ?
[12:30] <debugger> hello
[12:30] <henk> seems like a waste to treat that button als a non-special key
[12:34] <Ng> henk: should be
[12:35] <Ng> although it may well behave like anormal key, not a shift/alt type key
[12:35] <Ng> that's pretty stupid :/
[12:35] <henk> NG it appears so
[12:37] <Crys_UbuPC> Hey, all.
[12:38] <Crys_UbuPC> How do I start up into enlightenment?
[12:38] <beruic> Hello. I really neew some help to mount a drive. I'm totally lost...
[12:38] <Crys_UbuPC> Have you ever done one before?
[12:39] <beruic> N
[12:39] <beruic> No
[12:39] <Crys_UbuPC> Ever used the terminal?
[12:39] <RMeist> :)
[12:39] <beruic> No
[12:39] <Crys_UbuPC> Okay. Ready to learn?
[12:39] <beruic> Well, not much that is :)
[12:39] <beruic> Yep
[12:39] <Crys_UbuPC> Oh. Well open that up.
[12:39] <beruic> But i would prefer som gui
[12:39] <Crys_UbuPC> what kind of drive, btw?
[12:39] <beruic> Done
[12:40] <beruic> Harddisk
[12:40] <Crys_UbuPC> I don't know the gui way to do it.
[12:40] <locomorto> beruic: theres a forum guide to enlightenment
[12:40] <locomorto> beruic: hold on
[12:40] <beruic> Secondary IDE master
[12:40] <Crys_UbuPC> locomorto, That was for me.
[12:40] <beruic> k
[12:40] <locomorto> oh nvm
[12:40] <Crys_UbuPC> beruic Is it the third hard drive?
[12:40] <beruic> Yep
[12:40] <beruic> hdc
[12:40] <locomorto> stop asking questions then :P
[12:41] <Crys_UbuPC> Do you know what partition you wanted on it?
[12:41] <Crys_UbuPC> mkdir /media/hdc1
[12:41] <beruic> I think it has an FAT32 on it now
[12:41] <Crys_UbuPC> Okay, but I meant the partition number.
[12:42] <beruic> What's that?
[12:42] <bzimage> i have a problem, anyone who can help me?
[12:42] <beruic> Dir made...
[12:42] <bzimage> *don't answer, it's a joke*
[12:42] <henk> bzimage, heh
[12:42] <bzimage> :P
[12:42] <deFrysk> bzimage, asl ?
[12:42] <deFrysk> ;p
[12:42] <Crys_UbuPC> mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1
[12:43] <Crys_UbuPC> I think.
[12:43] <bzimage> ghehe
[12:43] <locomorto> here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=972&d=1114754670
[12:43] <locomorto> or: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30525 and get the attachment
[12:43] <jack-> i dont have a problem, but i'm bored..can anyone help? :<
[12:43] <beruic> It did something...
[12:44] <Crys_UbuPC> cd /media/hdc1
[12:44] <bzimage> jack-, NO
[12:44] <henk> jack help me find out how i use the windows-key as a special key like alt and ctrl so i can use it to create shotcut key combinations
[12:44] <bzimage> :P
[12:44] <Crys_UbuPC> dir
[12:44] <deFrysk> beruic, see if there is an icon appeared on your desktop
[12:44] <henk> :P
[12:44] <gmjonker> Hi all. I have an Ubuntu/Grub problem. I installed Ubuntu on a Windows machine and now Grub freezes with error 21. Now what?
[12:44] <jack-> sigh
[12:44] <Crys_UbuPC> If it worked you should see stuff.
[12:44] <bzimage> jack.. yes.. use windows
[12:44] <bzimage> :P
[12:44] <beruic> none
[12:44] <deFrysk> thats your new drive opened
[12:44] <jack-> omfg
[12:44] <locomorto> Crys_UbuPC: or you can from da login screen go sessions
[12:44] <jack-> bzimage, you're evil ;)
[12:44] <locomorto> Crys_UbuPC: and choose you WM/DE
[12:44] <beruic> nothing
[12:44] <bzimage> *mumbles* i know
[12:45] <smott> when my laptop comes back from hibernation, eth0 is gone. what's up?
[12:45] <deFrysk> beruic, go with filemanager to the mounted driive
[12:45] <beruic> I'd wish I could run that program which I used under the installation...
[12:45] <Crys_UbuPC> locomorto, Oh, was that link up there for me? Why thank you.
[12:45] <jack-> qtparted?
[12:45] <deFrysk> see if it works
[12:45] <beruic> Can't find it
[12:46] <bzimage> smott, using dhcp?
[12:46] <Crys_UbuPC> beruic So dir didn't do it?
[12:46] <jack-> beruic: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[12:46] <farion> hi - I updated to breezy and now every program say something like "locale not supported by Xlib"
[12:46] <beruic> Installing...
[12:46] <deFrysk> farion, will automagically be fixed when upgrade is done
[12:46] <hutgyrr> is there a command line dvd burner?
[12:47] <bzimage> dvddao
[12:47] <bzimage> or someting
[12:47] <jack-> cdrecord-prodvd
[12:47] <bzimage> h
[12:47] <RMeist> burncd -F -f /dev/acd0c -e -s max format dvd+rw data dvdrw
[12:47] <smott> bzimage: no, static
[12:47] <avinoam> Anyone know how to view a docbook document?
[12:47] <farion> locales are outdated then? because of language-selector?
[12:47] <bzimage> smott, sudo ifup eth0
[12:48] <RMeist> cdrdao write  --driver generic-mmc --device "1,0,0" --eject --overburn $1
[12:48] <hutgyrr> any available thru apt-get?
[12:48] <jack-> most of them
[12:48] <Crys_UbuPC> beruic, Sorry my way didn't help. Once you learn the way it becomes quite easy.
[12:48] <jack-> only cdrecord-prodvd requires you to google+download via http
[12:48] <beruic> ok
[12:48] <beruic> k
[12:48] <smott> bzimage: eth0 gets replaced by eth1 (wireless), and the old card disappears completely
[12:48] <bzimage> RMeist, well.. nice.. but most of us don't want to use these LONG commands
[12:48] <nalioth> hutgyrr: ask uncle google about "bashburn"
[12:48] <bzimage> :P
[12:48] <beruic> I hope so :)
[12:49] <RMeist> bzimage: *click*click*:)
[12:49] <beruic> Installation done!
[12:49] <smott> bzimage: something about eth0 not being able to be mapped reliably
[12:49] <Crys_UbuPC> yay!
[12:49] <DagaZ> anyone here using madwifi in hoary?
[12:49] <beruic> Wht then?
[12:50] <hutgyrr> cant find package cdrecord-prodvd
[12:50] <nalioth> hutgyrr: prodvd is not free
 only cdrecord-prodvd requires you to google+download via http
[12:50] <jack-> its free
[12:50] <bzimage> tralalalaaaa
[12:50] <nalioth> hutgyrr: you have to hunt it down on the web
[12:50] <jack-> but not in the repos
[12:50] <farion> how to activate usplash in breezy?
[12:50] <nalioth> jack-: have you read the license for it?
[12:51] <jack-> yes
[12:51] <hutgyrr> oh, ok
[12:51] <jack-> free for home use etc
[12:51] <nalioth> jack-: not free as in beer
[12:51] <jack-> only commercial use requires you to license it
[12:51] <nalioth> bleh
[12:51] <nalioth> it'
[12:51] <nalioth> s not FOSS
[12:51] <jack-> but almost :p
[12:52] <beruic> Think the drive is mounted and there now, but why doesnt it show in the Machine?
[12:52] <jack-> you dont get the source anyway nalioth
[12:52] <jack-> so..no need to worry
[12:52] <jack-> my advice was targeted to an user who just wants to burn
[12:55] <DagaZ> anyone got madwifi working in hoary??
[12:56] <helloyo> my server (which shares internet over dhcp) went down and came back up, but my other ubuntu box isn't connecting, at boot up says something like "temporary name server"*
[12:56] <helloyo> so how do i get my internet connection to reconfigure?
[12:56] <hutgyrr> mmmh, well all I want to do is backup data onto DVD's, making two copies of each disk. whats the easiest solution
[12:57] <Angel-SL> hi
[12:57] <Angel-SL> whats the path for System>Administration>Printers?
[12:57] <talios> is there anything to record swf based screencasts in breezy?  I don't see vnc2swf (which i've used before) and vaguely remember some funky gnome base applet/application that did a similar thing?
[12:58] <DagaZ> helloyo: what does the file /etc/network/interfaces say?
[12:58] <helloyo> DagaZ, i'll run upstairs and check, brb
[12:58] <aftertaf> lol
[12:59] <bzimage> omg
[12:59] <bzimage> :P
[01:00] <helloyo> DagaZ, "inet eth0 something dhcp" was the last line, anything i should be looking for?
[01:00] <bzimage> :P
[01:00] <Angel-SL> hello
[01:00] <bzimage> hello
[01:01] <DagaZ> helloyo: if everything is ok in there run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:01] <helloyo> DagaZ, looking at that file on this computer, its the same
[01:01] <helloyo> DagaZ, will do, thankyoU!
[01:02] <Angel-SL> Hello??? whats the path for System -> Administration -> Printers
[01:04] <Angel-SL> Hello??? whats the path for System -> Administration -> Printers
[01:04] <nalioth> Angel-SL: if anyone knows, they'll answer
[01:06] <DagaZ> I want to remove linux-restricted-modules with synaptic.. but when I do that it wants to remove the kernel as well.. which doesn't sound very good to me ;-)
[01:06] <bzimage> Angel-SL, what exactly do you want..
[01:06] <Angel-SL> nvm i got it
[01:06] <helloyo> DagaZ, no luck, didn't change anything, i can remember having this problem a month or so ago, but i am having a complete mental blank at how i fixed it
[01:07] <bzimage> there is a menu editor in gnome.. use that to see the details for it
[01:07] <DagaZ> helloyo: have u tried setting a static ip?
[01:08] <helloyo> no, where would i do that?
[01:08] <helloyo> DagaZ, or is there a way i can ask for a new ip from the dhcp servfer?
[01:08] <jpfarias> hi!
[01:10] <fluor_> bzimage: it's a gameserver (it's 32-bit) but some ADDONS i have use 64-bit!  so i need 64bit. i need other admins to also connect, using their own ssh account. i do not want to give them root
[01:11] <bzimage> fluor_, why repeating?
[01:11] <bzimage> :P
[01:12] <helloyo> how do i get ubuntu to reconfigure my internet connection? (havent changed it, just server went down, and now ubuntu is stumped)
[01:12] <CaiN_SA> reboot
[01:12] <fluor_> i want a better solution than chroot
[01:13] <bzimage> fluor_, don't know a good solution atm
[01:13] <bzimage> sry
[01:13] <helloyo> CaiN_SA, not working, says something like "Temporary error"
[01:13] <fluor_> bah
[01:13] <fluor_> dont say i have to install windows :)
[01:14] <bzimage> fluor_, ehmm......
[01:14] <bzimage> fluor_, it's a solution...
[01:15] <helloyo> i dont know if these days i ask harder questions, but i remember irc being much more helpful
[01:16] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[01:16] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:16] <DagaZ> helloyo: I agree with u.. but at the moment I am trying to fix my netgear wg311t that has stopped working
[01:16] <henk> Hmm how do i remove the incons of mounted drives from my desktop? i want to keep them mounted but just no shown on the destop. If it appears in the 'places' dropdown it's good enough
[01:23] <arkanes> !tell arkanes about win32codecs
[01:24] <obontu> hey, can someone please tell me how to install my nforce2 in ubuntu?
[01:24] <obontu> my soundcard isn't working properly
[01:34] <Seagate> !tell me about ntfs
[01:34] <Seagate> !tell me about ntfs
[01:34] <dbzdeath> !tell Seagate about ntfs
[01:35] <foampeace> do tell do tell
[01:35] <locomorto> helloyo: power cycle your modem
[01:35] <locomorto> !tell foampeace about manners
[01:35] <dbzdeath> haha
[01:35] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about manners
[01:35] <dbzdeath> awww
[01:36] <dbzdeath> man now i'll never learn manners
[01:36] <foampeace> how is mr manners?
[01:36] <locomorto> manners is not the art of appeasing locomorto
[01:36] <locomorto> !tell dbzdeath about manners
[01:36] <foampeace> me and mr manners had a bath last week he was all soapy and bubbly
[01:37] <locomorto> ooops
[01:37] <locomorto> hold on
[01:37] <dbzdeath> hahaha
[01:37] <dbzdeath> foampeace: if your a guy... thats disturbing :P
[01:37] <Nikopol> !sendmail
[01:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Nikopol
[01:37] <locomorto> bah
[01:38] <Nikopol> mmm
[01:38] <dbzdeath> !uboto
[01:38] <ubotu> No idea, dbzdeath
[01:38] <Skid> !beer
[01:38] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Skid
[01:38] <Skid> heh
 is <what you want ubotu to say>
[01:38] <dbzdeath> haha
[01:38] <locomorto> ching
[01:39] <locomorto> Anyway, a little tip for those who run cedega
[01:39] <dbzdeath> man its so silent here
[01:39] <dbzdeath> i got a tip! make sure you have joilet extensions built into your kernel :P
[01:40] <locomorto> cull powernowd (sudo killall powernowd) if your having trouble with speed issues in HL2/CS:S or any other source game
[01:40] <locomorto> It seams to be a problem with the way linux reports the speed of the processor
[01:41] <locomorto> As in windows says the full speed, and linux says the speed its currently running at (think CPU scaling)
[01:41] <locomorto> Also having multiple CPUs also seems to elicit the same problem (in windows as well)
[01:41] <dbzdeath> ha
[01:41] <Crys_UbuPC> Okay, so enlightenment looks a lot like not good.
[01:41] <dbzdeath> well what do you know
[01:42] <dbzdeath> i like xfce :D
[01:42] <Crys_UbuPC> Is this cruddiness normal?
[01:42] <locomorto|gamin> Crys: most people use it to replace metacity
[01:42] <locomorto|gamin> Crys: And I agree (mostly)
[01:42] <locomorto|gamin> Crys: I think its mainly the themes
[01:43] <Crys_UbuPC> It is like an amped up blackbox.
[01:43] <locomorto|gamin> Crys: If your looking for speed go openbox+panel of your choice or XFCE
[01:45] <dbzdeath> so how many of you guys don't use gnome?
[01:45] <hutgyrr> is there a page i can go to, that shows all the apps available through apt-get?
[01:45] <dbzdeath> hutgyrr: there is... somewhere
[01:46] <Nikopol> !postfix
[01:46] <ubotu> Nikopol: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:46] <bimberi> hutgyrr: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:46] <dbzdeath> ya there you go
[01:47] <ekimrebyc> how do i install php with mysql support here?
[01:48] <nalioth> ekimrebyc: you've landed in spambot gaol
[01:48] <nalioth> ekimrebyc: read the /topic and free yourself
[01:48] <dbzdeath> apt-get install php4-mysql(or php5-mysql if you want it)
[01:49] <henk> what is the ubuntu/gnome way of managing and controlling samba (shares)
[01:49] <bimberi> henk: System -> Admin -> Shared Folders
[01:50] <ekimrebyc> dbzdeath, that package is not in the repository
[01:51] <henk> bimberi, is there a slightly more advanced way to do it ? (share printers, use passwords etc)
[01:52] <hussam> guys, I need help. I can't access archive.ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org or kubuntu.org. I called my ISP and they tried opening those sites and it worked on their PCs, but all those  sites time out on my PC
[01:53] <farion> how can i use bootsplash with breezy?
[01:53] <bimberi> henk: not that i know of sorry, printer sharing is via cups btw
[01:53] <nalioth> farion: i believe the program you want is called "splashy"
[01:55] <dbzdeath> ekimrebyc: php4-mysql and php5-mysql are both there for me on breezy amd64
[01:55] <Nikopol> anyone know how to increase the attachment size that Postfix will accept?
[01:55] <bimberi> henk: some info on printer sharing -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=print&titlesearch=Titles
[01:55] <Nikopol> couldn't find an entry in main.cf
[01:55] <dbzdeath> !tell Nikopol about postfix
[01:56] <dbzdeath> haha aww
[01:56] <Nikopol> nope nada! tried it before
[01:56] <Nikopol> dbzdeath, thanks for trying though :)
[01:59] <AMDXP> man finally i got my ubuntu box running
[01:59] <aftertaf> :) AMDXP
[02:00] <aftertaf> silly question: what happens if on oct 13th the breezy packs arent stable?
[02:00] <drogoh> They say "oops, another week".
[02:00] <aftertaf> hehe. :)
[02:01] <bimberi> oh ye of little faith
[02:01] <AMDXP> aftertaf: =) is right
[02:01] <aftertaf> bimberi:  just on the offchance..... they release bugfixes anyway. otherwise hoary would be the same at april ;)
[02:02] <aftertaf> does anyone know how to sovle the timezone pb wetween linux and xp? I dualboot at home and  one or the other is always on the wrong time...
[02:02] <trix> how to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?
[02:02] <mwright1night> Hi all, quick question, is ubuntu breezy final release going to wait for oo2
[02:02] <bimberi> aftertaf: yeah, although it's good to know when you hand someone a pressed CD that it's good to go
[02:03] <aftertaf> bimberi:  my thoughts were mosre with the cd ;)
[02:03] <farion> nalioth: how to get splash - apt-file doesn't find anything
[02:03] <trix> how to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?
[02:03] <farion> 'splashy
[02:03] <trix> how to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?
[02:03] <trix> how to install kubuntu cd in ubuntu w/out internet connection?
[02:03] <aftertaf> trix:  dont repeat.....
[02:03] <drogoh> Only once is enough.
[02:03] <bimberi> mwright1night: i strongly doubt it
[02:04] <aftertaf> trix:  you put in te cd, you boot, you install it. where is the actual pb?
[02:04] <nalioth> farion: get breezy
[02:04] <mwright1night> THey're pretty slow, but ubuntu along with oo, is some of the coolest things happening to Linux
[02:04] <farion> nalioth: have  breezy
[02:04] <mwright1night> breezy isn't released is it? not until the 13th?
[02:04] <drogoh> tsw, But it isn't Debian's fault updates are 10 releases behind mainstream. :p
[02:04] <aftertaf> trix:  do you have the cd to install with?
[02:04] <trix> what is pb?
[02:04] <nalioth> farion: then i'm not sure, i thought splashy was part of breezy
[02:04] <bimberi> mwright1night: i'm sure the backporters will be on the case though :)
[02:04] <tsw> drogoh: true :)
[02:05] <drogoh> <3 political cruft
[02:05] <farion> nalioth:usplash is part of breezy, but i didnt get i work. and my old bootsplashprogressbar isnt running, because i cant patch the new sysv-rc-files
[02:05] <aftertaf> trix:  pb = problem.
[02:05] <Skid> aftertaf: install ntp, and sync with a decent clock
[02:05] <Skid> ntpdate
[02:06] <aftertaf> Skid:  it synchs on linux ok.... but then when i boot win it it 2hrs behind.
[02:06] <aftertaf> Skid:  i then synch win and linux is out of date....
[02:06] <Skid> well, sync your clock on XP ? :P
[02:06] <Skid> maybe your cmos battery is about to keel over and die? :o
[02:06] <Skid> nah, try syncing in XP
[02:07] <Skid> i dont know why it'd do that, but that may help
[02:07] <aftertaf> Skid:  linux does it auto.... but i have to synch each time on xp... seems its sth to do with utc
[02:07] <drogoh> Just throw tardis2000 on the Windows side.
[02:07] <aftertaf> Skid:  when i sync in xp, then ubuntu is 2 hrs fast
[02:07] <bimberi> aftertaf: sounds like linux thinks the h/w clock is on GMT, whereas XP assumes its local (not sure how to fix it though)
[02:07] <drogoh> Peep at the CMOS too...
[02:07] <aftertaf> drogoh:  hehe ok... bimberi exact ;)
[02:07] <AMDXP> do i have to mount my other hard drives?
[02:08] <aftertaf> i am on gmt +1
[02:08] <AMDXP> they dont just automount
[02:08] <aftertaf> AMDXP:  nope
[02:08] <aftertaf> !mount
[02:08] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:08] <Illuv> Question: I want to find all domains that contain a specific hostname within my /usr/namedb/primary directory...is this possible with a specific find command, or do I need to script for this?
[02:08] <bimberi> aftertaf: but on DST atm?
[02:08] <aftertaf> yep... so +2 atm
[02:09] <umberleigh> hi, i'm having a problem playing audio CDs - i can't mount them and KsCD and amaroK can't seem to read them. any ideas?
[02:09] <aftertaf> i know fdisk is a solution.... but i can't :/
[02:09] <mwright1night> anyone here know how to setup a RAID 0 + 1,   I have created /dev/md0 (striping over 3 disks) and /dev/md1 (striping over 3 disks)
[02:09] <bimberi> aftertaf: fdisk!?!
[02:09] <aftertaf> umberleigh:  cant mount them? does mount give you a reason?
[02:09] <mwright1night> how do I create /dev/md2 which is a RAID 1 that consists on /dev/md0 + /dev/md1
[02:09] <aftertaf> bimberi:  yeah, on the xp partition ;)
[02:10] <umberleigh> aftertaf: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[02:10] <bimberi> aftertaf: lol
[02:10] <AMDXP> ok after: i will figure it out
[02:10] <AMDXP> aftertaf: i will figure it out thanks
[02:10] <aftertaf> AMDXP:  ok. that link will get you going, but if you get stuck, ask
[02:11] <aftertaf> umberleigh:  do you have a /cdrom entry in etc/fstab ?
[02:11] <umberleigh> aftertaf: /dev/hda     /media/dvd-ram  auto   user,noauto           0      0 <-- this is  the relevant line in my fstab file
[02:12] <aftertaf> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0 0 in mine
[02:13] <aftertaf> hmm. umberleigh could be the auto part in the filesystem.... tried putting udf,iso9660 ?
[02:13] <dseher> Hello, *nix newcomer, very tired, possibly overlooked something, need help-
[02:13] <aftertaf> with it being dvd and not cd, maybe s/one else knws better?
[02:13] <larsrohdin> Is anyone here good at xfce?
[02:14] <umberleigh> aftertaf: /cdrom is symlinked to /media/cdrom, which in turn is symlinked to /media/dvd-ram, btw
[02:14] <aftertaf> larsrohdin:  me, nope... sorry
[02:14] <scenestar> can someone explain to me
[02:14] <scenestar> why ubuntu crashes when i wish to view a video
[02:14] <dseher> Went to packet manager, followed the guide on the wiki to enable mp3 support, tried to reload, and get a error: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[02:14] <Skid> dseher: perhaps if you ask your question, someone will be able to answer it
[02:14] <Skid> oops, sorry my bad
[02:14] <umberleigh> aftertaf: that's what i had before and it wasn't working. i'll flip it back to check if i'm getting the same error.
[02:14] <dseher> Now now, you know things take time to type.
[02:14] <nalioth> dseher: nerim will break your box
[02:14] <aftertaf> dseher:  :)
[02:14] <Skid> :P
[02:15] <scenestar> hey\
[02:15] <scenestar> why does media support suck so bad
[02:15] <Skid> scenestar: generally
[02:15] <larsrohdin> does anyone know if it is possible to set an alias for a command in xfrun in xfce? Like an alias in bashrc?
[02:15] <aftertaf> dseher:  true, that isnt an official repos.
[02:15] <Skid> its impaitient users
[02:15] <Skid> (sp, argh.)
[02:15] <Skid> :p
[02:15] <the_watchtower> who can help with proftp
[02:15] <scenestar> Skid : this is awfull
[02:15] <scenestar> nearly as bad as windows
[02:15] <aftertaf> scenestar:  have you got all the codecs n stuff?
[02:15] <scenestar> yeah
[02:16] <onkarshinde> Are DRI drivers already included in hoary? I want to use ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card.
[02:16] <scenestar> its a standard dvd
[02:16] <Skid> have you taken the time to read the wiki/forums?
[02:16] <scenestar> on vlc player
[02:16] <aftertaf> scenestar:  have you tested different files?
[02:16] <scenestar> indeed
[02:16] <nalioth> the_watchtower: welcome
[02:16] <scenestar> yup
[02:16] <Skid> dseher: personally, im not sure, I take it there's no key, so it can't be verified, butI've installed unverified packages before fine
[02:16] <the_watchtower> nalioth, thankyou
[02:16] <scenestar> i properly mounted the dvd
[02:16] <scenestar> so its not the drive
[02:16] <ompaul> scenestar, because of a thing called with WIPO and their restrictive practice promotion
[02:16] <the_watchtower> nalioth, you are here also
[02:16] <Skid> mp3 support to what, why not just install xmms thinking about it?
[02:16] <scenestar> well listen up
[02:17] <scenestar> im not out here to take omg its their drm
[02:17] <the_watchtower> who can help with proftp
[02:17] <aftertaf> bimberi:  thx.... will have a look at that ;)
[02:17] <scenestar> cause thats just plain easy
[02:17] <bimberi> aftertaf: oops, that's --localtime
[02:17] <onkarshinde> Are DRI drivers already included in hoary? I want to use ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card.
[02:17] <bimberi> aftertaf: yw :)
[02:17] <henk> bimberi, i've set up cups for my printer on ltp1 and everything seems to be OK, even networking is running fine.. only thing is it does not print... : /    the logs say nothing out of the ordinary. any thoughts on how i should debug what's going wrong ?
[02:18] <scenestar> goddammit
[02:18] <nalioth> the_watchtower: just ask your question
[02:18] <scenestar> there isnt a single distro that just works out of the box
[02:18] <aftertaf> scenestar:  do you have libdvdcss installed?
[02:18] <dseher> Skid: It's 7am coming off an all-nighter, and I have little clue what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to linux in general :P
[02:19] <Skid> heh
[02:19] <scenestar> aftertaf : thank you
[02:19] <Skid> you just wanting to play mp3's?
[02:19] <umberleigh> aftertaf: i'm getting a different error message, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2583
[02:19] <bimberi> henk: did you set the cups port to listen on all interfaces?
[02:19] <the_watchtower> nalioth, I want to setup a message in welcome.msg so people see it when they log on to my ftp server
[02:19] <bimberi> henk: and restart cupsys
[02:19] <henk> bimberi, it's not the networking part that is not workin. its the local part.. the testpage is not comming out either
[02:20] <the_watchtower> who can help with proftp
[02:20] <bimberi> henk: ah, k, hm
[02:20] <aftertaf> scenestar:  think its that.... but not found in repos.... :/  id enable universe & multiverse and install a few extras for dvd...
[02:21] <the_watchtower> who can help with proftp
[02:21] <the_watchtower> who can help with proftp
[02:21] <Skid> the_watchtower: ask then?
[02:21] <YattaMaX> hi all
[02:21] <aftertaf> the_watchtower:  what is your pb with it?
[02:21] <aftertaf> hi:)
[02:21] <Skid> and people will frown on your for repeating
[02:21] <YattaMaX>  I have any question on customization of Live CD
[02:22] <the_watchtower> how do i setup welcome.msg refered to in the conf file
[02:22] <YattaMaX> anyone  can help me ?
[02:22] <hansi_xp> talk dude
[02:22] <nalioth_zZz> YattaMaX: just ask the room your question
[02:22] <scenestar> aftertaf : i have it installed
[02:22] <scenestar> so that wasnt the issue
[02:22] <the_watchtower> skid, how do i setup welcome.msg refered to in the conf file
[02:22] <YattaMaX> well .....
[02:23] <hansi_xp> ?
[02:23] <bimberi> henk: only thing i can think of is to verify that you used "Parallel Port #1" in the Printer Admin dialogs
[02:23] <whyameye> is there a way to get some playback controls in the mplayer plugin for filefox?
[02:23] <ompaul> !tell YattaMaX about ask
[02:23] <whyameye> barring that, is there a way to switch to another plugin for video, say totem-xine?
[02:23] <hansi_xp> whyameye: that's a good question dude
[02:23] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, hey the conf file says Displaylogin    welcome.msg   but I can't find the file to edit it
[02:24] <aftertaf> the_watchtower:  what is the file called?
[02:24] <whyameye> hansi_xp: it's bad enough that mplayer plugin crashes firefox...
[02:24] <YattaMaX> I can make a very simple live cd, where the user don't have anythings question on boot
[02:24] <aftertaf> scenestar:  hmmm. have you enabled multiverse in sources?
[02:24] <the_watchtower> proftpd.conf
[02:24] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, proftpd.conf
[02:24] <hansi_xp> whyameye: did you try the mplayer channel?
[02:25] <aftertaf> ok. is that a file you can find?
[02:25] <YattaMaX> My user is blind
[02:25] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, it's for setting up the welcome banner when people login to ftp
[02:26] <aftertaf> yep the_watchtower .. have you done a search for that file?
[02:26] <YattaMaX> -> where I modify for personalization the boot of live cd ?
[02:27] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, welcome.msg does not exist on the system
[02:27] <YattaMaX> carefully I want remove the screen resolution question on boot
[02:27] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, if I create it where does it go  --  /etc  maybe\
[02:28] <scenestar> aftertaf : offcourse i do
[02:28] <scenestar> which btw is one of the silliest ideas ever
[02:28] <scenestar> a universe
[02:28] <whyameye> hansi_xp: no I didn't. Is it #mplayer?
[02:28] <YattaMaX> anyone can help me ?
[02:29] <hansi_xp> whyameye: yep.
[02:29] <BurgerMann> Hi. I'm installing Ubuntu on a server. When I boot, and type server, for server installation... will X be installed? or do I have to live with only a shell?
[02:29] <havoc> BurgerMann: no XD, I believe
[02:29] <havoc> -D
[02:29] <ompaul> BurgerMann, only a shell - if you want to install X after that apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, did you get lost
[02:30] <havoc> BurgerMann: the only difference between the default and 'server' installs is the desktop environment
[02:30] <BurgerMann> havoc & ompaul: okay. thx :)
[02:30] <scenestar> hmmm
[02:31] <scenestar> i noticed that sevrer is fscheck on amy laptop
[02:31] <scenestar> full install is so much better
[02:31] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, the proftpd.conf file refers to welcome.msg as the place to put the welcome banner when people login
[02:31] <BurgerMann> ohh this is so sweet! :p
[02:31] <BurgerMann> always a thrill to install a linux distro :P
[02:31] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, what directory should this file be in
[02:32] <BurgerMann> Oops forgot to plug the network adapter in
[02:32] <ryanakca> does anyone know of a good HOWTO for getting a mail server up and running^
[02:33] <BurgerMann> some server with no network adapter :S
[02:33] <YattaMaX> I can customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a blind user, therefore I have to limit the question on boot.....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?
[02:33] <havoc> ryanakca: depends on what server you're running
[02:33] <ryanakca> havoc: courier & postfix, if possible, or cyrus and postfix
[02:33] <havoc> ryanakca: then: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html
[02:34] <dade`> hi
[02:35] <dade`> what is needed to have the "suspend to disk" function in gnome logout ?
[02:35] <Seveas> gnome :)
[02:35] <Seveas> and gdm
[02:35] <dade`> i built my own kernel WITH the swsusp support
[02:35] <dade`> i have gnome and gdm.
[02:35] <aftertaf> the_watchtower:  check here..... ive never used it myself   http://www.proftpd.org/docs/example-conf.html
[02:35] <YattaMaX> I have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot.....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?
[02:35] <miltos01> hi ppl-:)
[02:36] <Seveas> hm, dunno about custom kernels...
[02:36] <selinium> YattaMaX, Set the box to auto loigin after 10 secs
[02:36] <aftertaf> its a live cd....
[02:37] <the_watchtower> aftertaf, i read that site until my eyes are bleeding  - it refers to welcome.msg  1000s of times but never answers the question
[02:37] <miltos01> I've got devolo microlink usb adapter to connect to internet and unfortunately the installation drivers for linux do not work...pls help
[02:37] <selinium> YattaMaX, Sytem/Admin/Login Screen setup
[02:37] <aftertaf> erf :/
[02:38] <Canadean> hello
[02:38] <hansi_xp> hello
[02:38] <bimberi> the_watchtower: try putting it in the same directory as the config file - there should be a sample one at /usr/share/doc/proftpd/examples/welcome.msg
[02:38] <selinium> YattaMaX, Have you got that?
[02:38] <miltos01> pls any help???
[02:39] <the_watchtower> bimberi, checking
[02:39] <YattaMaX> selenium: ok , this is the default on GDM live cd
[02:39] <YattaMaX> selenium: ok , this is the default on GDM live cd
[02:39] <Canadean> can  anyone tell me (in lamens terms) how to install a driver...  I have a Marvell Yukon Gigabit Eternet adaptor on my motherboard and it isn't recognised...
[02:39] <YattaMaX> selnium: where ?
[02:39] <selinium> miltos01, Give people a chance.
[02:39] <Canadean> I am now in windows
[02:40] <hutgyrr> ive just installed bacula with apt-get and it installed lots of other things with it also. eg. sqlite, baula-director. How can I remove all these?
[02:40] <YattaMaX> selnium: On live cd, the auto login is ok :/
[02:40] <Canadean> anyone...
[02:40] <hansi_xp> hello
 thanks for you reply
[02:41] <ryanakca> is there a way to install php5 using apt?
[02:41] <ryanakca> I mean mysql5 using apt
[02:41] <selinium> YattaMax: I am not sure about Live CD
[02:42] <senaque> does anyone know if 5.10 fixes the 5.04 bug related to software raid / md / udev race condition?
[02:42] <aftertaf> hutgyrr:  with apt-get remove package, or with debfoster, or synaptic...depends on you...
[02:42] <YattaMaX> selenium: trusty :)   , at the moment , my Live CD login automatically on GDM
[02:42] <miltos01> Here is the location for usb devolo microlink driver for anyone who will try to help me http://download.devolo.biz/webcms/1124872910_dlan-linux-package-2.0.tar.gz   ...thnaks anyway
[02:43] <conb> Hi, I have a question regarding hibernate: On my laptop (Dell M70), when I hibernate everything seems to work properly and the machine goes down. When I hit the power button to resume, on bootup I see messages when initialised swap saying that it's found software suspend 2 data in the swapspace so it reinits the swap and boots as normal rather than resuming from that suspend data. do I need to give a parameter to the kernel on bootup to get it to res
[02:43] <conb> ume?
[02:43] <YattaMaX> selenium: the problem is FIRST that starting "X session" or GDM
[02:43] <selinium> miltos01, If i remember there is a free telephone help with the devolo products. Have asked them?
[02:43] <hutgyrr> yeah used synaptic because with apt-get remove --purge bacula it just removed the server I think
[02:44] <the_watchtower> bimberi, wait a minute does it go in /etc or is the welcome.msg file accessed from down in the example folder??
[02:45] <YattaMaX> can I customizing procedure of boot of a LiveCD ?
[02:45] <YattaMaX> (Ubuntu LIve CD :)  )
[02:45] <the_watchtower> bimberi, I found the example,  where should it be saved after I edit it
[02:46] <hutgyrr> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/dvd+rw-tools does this burn dvds?
[02:46] <bimberi> the_watchtower: /etc (if that's where the conf file is) - i am guessing though, i don't use it
[02:46] <Sionide> asdfff
[02:46] <Wipe-Out> hey
[02:46] <Sionide> firefox just broke when i tried to upgrade to 1.0.7 :s
 not yet but i will try
[02:46] <Wipe-Out> that sux dude
[02:46] <bimberi> !ff fix
[02:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[02:47] <aftertaf> Sionide:  hmm works for me man...
[02:47] <Wipe-Out> can any of you help me? i've got some issues installing the ndiswrapper
[02:47] <Sionide> ah
[02:47] <selinium> miltos01, I'll keep looking
[02:47] <selinium> :)
[02:47] <Sionide> thanks bimberi that looks useful, one sec
[02:47] <aftertaf> but im on kde ;)
[02:47] <Canadean> anyone know how to install the driver for the Marvell Yukon Gigabit adapter, or any drivers in general...
[02:47] <Wipe-Out> can any of you help me? i've got some issues installing the ndiswrapper
[02:47] <Canadean> I've just started using linux...
[02:47] <YattaMaX> I have to customizating the Ubuntu Live CD for a *blind* user, therefore I have to limit any question on boot (FIRST that X or GDM starting) .....carefully the screen resolution question on boot.         anyone can help me ?
[02:48] <twibbler> Wipe-Out can help installing drivers into ndiswrapper ....
[02:48] <Wipe-Out> when i type: sudo make
[02:48] <Wipe-Out> i'm having some issues with it
[02:48] <Serv|nokia> hello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?
[02:48] <Wipe-Out> kant seem to get "make" to work :S
[02:48] <Serv|nokia> Wipe-out: sudo apt-get install make?
[02:49] <Wipe-Out> you got to be kidding me
[02:49] <Wipe-Out> realy?
[02:49] <Serv|nokia> try it and try then
[02:49] <Sionide> bimberi, didn't work, it still wont start up properly
[02:49] <Serv|nokia> hello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?
[02:49] <ompaul> Wipe-Out, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:49] <Wipe-Out> okay thx guys
[02:49] <Sionide> i just see "starting firefox" then it disappears and firefox doesn't start
[02:49] <miltos01> thanks <selinium> I suspect that sth with their KERNELDIR paramaters is wrong...anyway. I'' give them a call
[02:50] <Wipe-Out> and then i'll be able to do sudo make?
[02:50] <deFrysk> Serv|nokia, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:50] <ompaul> !tell Sionide about ff fix
[02:50] <selinium> miltos01, :) good luck
[02:50] <Sionide> ompaul, i just did that and it's still broken
[02:50] <Sionide> !ff fix
[02:50] <ubotu> well, ff fix is sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends firefox firefox-gnome-support ; sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[02:50] <Sionide> didn't work ^^^
[02:50] <selinium> !tell selinium about ndiswrapper
[02:50] <Serv|nokia> deFrysk dosent help it same error
[02:50] <Sionide> !ndiswrapper
[02:50] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:50] <ompaul> Sionide, have you got backports installed
[02:50] <Wipe-Out> okay brb let you all know if it helped
[02:51] <Sionide> ompaul, yes
[02:51] <deFrysk> Sionide, get rid of that
[02:51] <ompaul> Sionide, is that where your firefox came from?
[02:51] <Sionide> erm most likely
[02:51] <Sionide> take out backports? :s
[02:51] <ompaul> Sionide, you know thats what I would do :)
[02:51] <deFrysk> Sionide, remove it spit on it and bury it
[02:52] <Sionide> bah
[02:52] <Whistler> how should i play avi file?Totem-xine says there is no plugin
[02:52] <Sionide> ok
[02:52] <the_watchtower> bimberi, lets give it a try  --  can you login to my ftp server
[02:53] <ompaul> Sionide, guess what you do after that :) !ff fix :)
[02:53] <Sionide> aye
[02:54] <ompaul> Sionide, don't forget to apt-get update afterwards
[02:54] <selinium> miltos01, you can see if this will shed any light...  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartLinkModemDriverHowTo/FromSource?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28modem%29
[02:54] <Sionide> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove firefox which isn't installed.
[02:54] <Serv|nokia> hello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?
[02:54] <Sionide> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove firefox-gnome-support which isn't installed.
[02:54] <bimberi> the_watchtower: sure, ip same as you're irc-ing from?
[02:54] <the_watchtower> bimberi, <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:54] <ompaul> !tell Sionide about paste
[02:54] <the_watchtower> bimberi,  user=agora     pass=agoramin
[02:54] <Sionide> whaaa
[02:55] <Sionide> that wasn't large amounts of text, it was 2 lines..
[02:55] <ompaul> Sionide, I felt you might do more, its not your day :) here have a virtual cuppa
[02:56] <Sionide> heh nah it's not
[02:56] <Sionide> ok
[02:56] <bimberi> the_watchtower: ok to /msg you?
[02:56] <the_watchtower> bimberi, yes
[02:56] <YattaMaX> how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD
 this is not a modem this is an ethernet adapter connecte directly to router via electricity...
[02:56] <YattaMaX> how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[02:56] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ?
[02:56] <Angel-SL> how do i reconfigure X?
[02:56] <Sionide> ompaul, it's still not starting up :s
[02:56] <Whistler> Angel-SL sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <robertj> heya all. Any suggestions on how best to build the fuse-module from src so the upgrade to breezy goes as well as is possible?
[02:57] <Whistler> or smt like that
[02:57] <ompaul> Sionide, try to start it in a terminal firefox and see if it gives some useful info
[02:57] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ?
[02:57] <Whistler> i am on breezy
[02:57] <Angel-SL> no
[02:57] <Sionide> ompaul, nope, just skips to the next line
[02:57] <Sionide> and does nothing
[02:57] <Sionide> :s
[02:58] <Sionide> argghh
[02:58] <rico_eberle> hi
[02:58] <Whistler> anybody can help me?
[02:58] <Angel-SL> hello? how do i reconfigure X?
[02:58] <ompaul> Sionide, how used to computers are you?
[02:58] <hansi_xp> whuz up
[02:58] <ompaul> Sionide, not your windows type either
[02:58] <Sionide> ompaul, not too bad
[02:59] <Angel-SL> Hello!?
[02:59] <ompaul> Sionide, let me introduce you to 'strace firefox'
[02:59] <aftertaf> Angel-SL:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <Angel-SL> how do i reconfigure X?!?!?!
[02:59] <YattaMaX> Angel-SL: http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&q=ubuntu+reconfigure+x&btnG=Cerca+con+Google&meta=
[02:59] <Angel-SL> thanks, aftertaf
[02:59] <Angel-SL> YattaMaX, ugh
[02:59] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/375643 whats wrong with this ? I am on breezy
[03:00] <rico_eberle> and be sure that you are aware of ur refresh rate form the monitor
[03:00] <Sionide> ompaul, augh, what did that do?
[03:00] <ompaul> it follows _every_ step of the program as it tries to run
[03:01] <YattaMaX> [QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[03:01] <aftertaf> Whistler:  breezy no longer has w32codecs.
[03:01] <Whistler> aftertaf so what should i do?
[03:01] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[03:01] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hory), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[03:01] <ompaul> Sionide, maybe not for today, is the package now showing as installed?
[03:01] <aftertaf> Whistler:  ^^^^^^^^^
[03:01] <Whistler> thx a lot
[03:01] <Whistler> :)
[03:01] <aftertaf> :)
[03:02] <YattaMaX> [QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[03:03] <concept10> aftertaf, what happened to the w32 codecs?
[03:03] <the_watchtower> bimberi, you still there
[03:04] <bimberi> yeah :)
[03:04] <YattaMaX> [QUESTION]  :  how to modify the *boot procedure* of the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[03:05] <bimberi> it took me a while but i was able to mkdir and upload :)
[03:06] <Sionide> ompaul, agh gonna have to go i'll try sort it out later on
[03:06] <Sionide> bleerghh
[03:06] <Sionide> back laters
[03:06] <selinium> miltos01, Oh one of those! they say that you can use any system. Do you have a windows box?
[03:07] <Serv|nokia> hello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2584 ?
[03:07] <selinium> !w32codecs
[03:07] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hory), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit?  I never seen it like this before
[03:13] <vbgunz> good morning
[03:13] <aftertaf> concept10:  legal issues :)
[03:13] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, do you have a monent to login to my ftp server
[03:13] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  difference is, one handles the correct way of runnug x apps in a console, other doesnt
[03:13] <Hobbsee> evening all :P
[03:13] <aftertaf> afternon :D
[03:13] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, i am testing some changes
[03:14] <Hobbsee> which one is the correct way of running x apps?
[03:14] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: why?
[03:14] <vbgunz> oh
[03:14] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  gksudo... if you need to run an x app as root
[03:14] <Hobbsee> right
[03:14] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, I want to see if the welcome.msg file is showing as a banner when you log in
[03:15] <aRJAy> Why Ubuntu ?
[03:15] <vbgunz> do I have an ftp client?
[03:15] <selinium> miltos01, I would like to get it working.. My inlaws have got some, I want to be able to use them.
[03:15] <ryanakca> why do I get this message when I try to run gedit: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wikkx249.html
[03:15] <selinium> aRJAy, in what sense? Why the name or the OS?
[03:16] <aRJAy> selinium: Why the OS instead of other distributions?
[03:16] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, any ftpclient will do  goto  <IP_ADDRESS>   user=agora   pass=agoramin
[03:16] <the_watchtower> It should welcome you by name, give the time and tell you that you may upload or download
[03:16] <selinium> aRJAy, Easy to run/update 6 month release schedule. Fantastic community
[03:17] <vinboy> hi
[03:17] <vbgunz> I used Firefox to login... no, banner :(
[03:17] <vinboy> does anyone know of a good editor?? support php etc
[03:17] <vbgunz> I should use a client other than Firefox to see the banner?
[03:17] <aRJAy> selinium: 6 month release? how do you mean?
[03:17] <vbgunz> SciTE
[03:17] <vbgunz> just a preference
[03:17] <dabaR> aRJAy: we mean www.ubuntu.com
[03:17] <aRJAy> selinium: what's it based on ?
[03:18] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, does firefox not show the banner  -  I don't know
[03:18] <selinium> vinboy: what kind of editor do you want? something like dreamweaver or something to hand code with?
[03:18] <selinium> aRJAy, debian
[03:18] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, do you have gftp
[03:18] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: I just logged in and saw folders and files... no welcome or anything of the such...
[03:18] <hutgyrr> im after installing a new dvd drive in my computer, using the slave cable. What will the device name be?
[03:18] <aRJAy> selinium: So, is it a fork of sorts?
[03:18] <hmrocha> hello
[03:19] <the_watchtower> vbgu awe poo
[03:19] <hmrocha> i want to install the portuguese dictionary for openoffice
[03:19] <mjr> hutgyrr, if primary slave, hdb. If secondary, hdd.
[03:19] <az[a] zel> bah, kernel update b0rked my grub, so I had to hand fix :/ but now I know grub commands and how to do this fix, so no drama in the future :) but not good....
[03:19] <aftertaf> aRJAy:  goto ubuntu homepage, good intro to what,why; how ... ;)
[03:19] <hmrocha> do you know what packages have the dictionaries?
[03:19] <vbgunz> if I were in Windows I would definitely be to log in with FileZilla but I don't have it set up
[03:19] <the_watchtower> I don't understand this welcome.msg file
[03:19] <vinboy> selinium, either will do...
[03:19] <hutgyrr> thanks mjr
[03:19] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: Does Ubuntu come with a ftp client?
[03:19] <aRJAy> aftertaf: on there now.. looking about at the same time..
[03:19] <selinium> aRJAy, of sorts, but it has a very strong development team. there is a new release out on the 13th Oct, and we can expect a new release 6 months on from that.
[03:19] <Serv|nokia> dabaR: what you can say about that:  cannot execute binary file
[03:20] <mjr> vbgunz, you can open ftp urls straight with Nautilus
 ok
[03:20] <vbgunz> mjr: yeah?
[03:20] <mjr> vbgunz, if you prefer, there's gftp and many others available too
[03:20] <selinium> vinboy, I am a php developer and I use bluefish, if you want the dreamweaver thing try nvu
[03:20] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, I think you have a choice of a few using the synaptic manager
[03:20] <vbgunz> mjr:  actually just trying to help the_watchtower right now
[03:21] <mjr> oh, okay :)
[03:21] <vbgunz> i'll try nautilus, thanks mjr!
[03:21] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: I can say that you are 1) doing something you should not, nmost likely. 2) you are not reading the instructions on how to do it.
[03:21] <mjr> well, either of you, you can connect to a [ftp]  server from the locations menu in the top bar
[03:21] <selinium> miltos01, you have got the usb version... If you had the cat5 version I would say set up the boxes on that, then just plug in ubuntu.
[03:21] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, does the welcome.msg file go in /etc
[03:21] <kemik> mjr:  nautilus supports SSL ?
[03:22] <mjr> kemik, dunno if it supports it with ftp
[03:22] <hutgyrr> what is the command to unmount a dvd
[03:22] <kemik> doesnt seem like it :|
[03:22] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: not sure... Nautilus is taking forever with it
[03:22] <kemik> hutgyrr:  umount /dev/dvd
[03:22] <vbgunz> Nautilus cannot display "ftp://ftp/<IP_ADDRESS>/".
[03:22] <vbgunz> ahhh
[03:22] <kemik> vbgunz:  malformed adress
[03:22] <aRJAy> selinium: but what about security updates inbetween the 6 months?
[03:23] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, that's my next problem  --  my burner wont burn cds
[03:23] <selinium> miltos01, did you get any joy from devolo?
[03:23] <Wipe-Out> hey i'm back
[03:23] <hutgyrr> kemik: It says that it seems the device is mounted multiple times
[03:23] <kemik> vbgunz:  ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[03:23] <Wipe-Out> still having issues
[03:23] <selinium> aRJAy, sent direct to your pc, An icon warns you of downloads/patches
[03:23] <DagaZ> anyone got madwifi working in hoary??
[03:23] <Wipe-Out> need to get my Wlna to work, i'm sick an tiered of windows
[03:23] <kemik> hutgyrr:  doesnt sound good
[03:23] <vinboy> thanks selinium
[03:24] <selinium> vinboy, np :)
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> subzero@Boss:~/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1$ sudo make install
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make -C driver install
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver'
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver \
[03:24] <Wipe-Out>         DRIVER_VERSION=1.3rc1 \
[03:24] <Wipe-Out>         UTILS_VERSION=1.2 modules
[03:24] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, I know the hardware is good  tried k3b  Nautilus  and  gnomebaker
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[03:24] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386'
[03:24] <umberleigh> hey, can anyone recommend a mass-tagging program for music files that uses musicbrainz?
[03:24] <Wipe-Out>   CC [M]   /home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver/hal.o
[03:24] <selinium> Wipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[03:24] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  read topic
[03:24] <vbgunz> kemik, Nautilus has been acting horribly today after an update... trust me, I got to the address in firefox in one shot... I try nautilus and am being treated as if I am a dummy...
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[3] : *** [/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver/hal.o]  Error 127
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[2] : *** [_module_/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver]  Error 2
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386'
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[1] : *** [default]  Error 2
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/subzero/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1/driver'
[03:24] <kemik> moron
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> make: *** [install]  Error 2
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> subzero@Boss:~/ndiswrapper-1.3rc1$
[03:24] <selinium> Wipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> does anybody know what to do here with error2
[03:24] <selinium> Wipe-Out, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> sorry
[03:24] <selinium> !pastebin
[03:24] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:24] <Wipe-Out> oi i said i was sorry
[03:24] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  make a habit of *reading topics*
[03:25] <mjr> DagaZ, madwifi comes in hoary by default, and yes, it works for me. It's in the linux-restricted-modules package corresponding to your kernel.
[03:25] <the_watchtower> Wipe-Out, can you open a seperate message tab
[03:25] <selinium> Wipe-Out, If any of the ops were looking you would have been booted
[03:25] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: sorry, I cannot use Nautilus to browse your FTP site... it's not working for me :(
[03:25] <Wipe-Out> i know i was wrong no lay of it please
[03:25] <DagaZ> mjr: It finds the card in the device-manager but it doesn't show in the network
[03:26] <DagaZ> mjr: it used to work for me too until I reinstalled the machine the other day..
[03:26] <Wipe-Out> what do you mean watchtower?
[03:26] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  a guess is you need "build-essential" and "linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[03:26] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, my problem is i can't go out and back in through my fire wall
[03:26] <vbgunz> Wipe-Out: next time paste the entire encyclopedia Britannica please... I need a copy :P
[03:26] <selinium> Wipe-Out, Not attacking you, just trying to let you know.
[03:26] <selinium> :)
[03:26] <Wipe-Out> i know allready
[03:27] <dabaR> hah
[03:27] <Wipe-Out> i might be blond but i'm not stupid... not smart eighter
[03:27] <the_watchtower> vbgunz, maybe I can test locally from another machine on the network  --  they are win xp
[03:27] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: are you frustrated?
[03:27] <Wipe-Out> hell yes
[03:27] <dabaR> I can tell:) its ok, it will either work, or not.
[03:28] <Wipe-Out> can;t seem to get the ndis wrapper installed
[03:28] <dabaR> what have you followed?
[03:28] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: I am going to log out of Ubuntu in a while and log into Windows XP in a bit
[03:28] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  read what i wrote ??
[03:28] <benkong2> is anyone aware of a fix for dangling symlinks to openoffice2 man pages? I get a cron error about "/etc/cron.daily/man-db:
[03:28] <benkong2> mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/ooffice2.1.gz is a dangling symlink"
[03:28] <vbgunz> im sending you a private message
[03:28] <hutgyrr> if im using a GUI, does that automount a cd and if so, to where?
[03:28] <kemik> !tell Wipe-Out about ndiswrapper
[03:28] <the_watchtower> vbgunz,  you got any idea why my burner doesn't work
[03:28] <umberleigh> hey, can anyone recommend a mass-tagging program for music files that uses musicbrainz?
[03:29] <kemik> umberleigh:  easytag
[03:29] <muep> !tell muep about ubuntu
[03:29] <the_watchtower> vbgunz,   yea I'm going over to the other machine too
[03:29] <Wipe-Out> kemik i did that allready
[03:29] <kemik> umberleigh:  oh. musicbrainz? dunno what that is.. easytag is for mp3
[03:29] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  follow the link from ubotu
[03:29] <Wipe-Out> now where's that margarita
[03:29] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: no idea... I made only one burn and that was through drag and drop through Nautilus
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows how to get into phpmyadmin after installing ?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> its not in my var/www
[03:29] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: you need to tell us that, otherwise, we cant know what to tell you to do. What did you do so far?
[03:30] <Wipe-Out> kemik: what link?
[03:30] <vbgunz> the_watchtower: put me on your buddy list for private chat
[03:30] <kemik> Wipe-Out:  in pm from ubotu
[03:31] <Wipe-Out> d'oh new at mIRC as well i feel so n00bish
[03:32] <dabaR> just learn
[03:32] <DarkOrigin> Hey people, would I be able to install the preview of 5.10 (Colony 5) and then update it to the final once it arrives ?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> DarkOrigin: yes, that's the idea
[03:32] <dabaR> DarkOrigin: that would be the idea.
[03:32] <DarkOrigin> I mean, it's just packages right, nothing major underlying thingy?
[03:32] <nerp> DarkOrigin, yes
[03:32] <DarkOrigin> goodie
[03:32] <deFrysk> DarkOrigin, that is the idea ;p
[03:32] <benkong2> wickedpuppy; I did a www/myserver.org/phpadmin
[03:32] <DarkOrigin> so, it's the idea that I can update later? :)
[03:32] <DarkOrigin> hehe, thanks guys/girls.
[03:32] <nerp> DarkOrigin, yes, easily
[03:32] <benkong2> wickedpuppy; sorry that's www.yourserver.org/phpmyadmin
[03:33] <deFrysk> DarkOrigin, thats is also an idea but the idea it that it can be done now too
[03:33] <Jack_B> hey guys
[03:33] <benkong2> anyone know how to fix this? "mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/ooffice2.1.gz is a dangling symlink"
[03:33] <Jack_B> do you know where i can get w32codecs? it seems that backports has removed it due to legality problems
[03:34] <alisher> www.google.com
[03:34] <nerp> !w32
[03:34] <dabaR> true
[03:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, nerp
[03:34] <nerp> !win32
[03:34] <ubotu> No idea, nerp
[03:34] <az[a] zel> anyone know the best place to get star trek stuff, that ship internationally? (I'm looking at starstore.com atm)
[03:34] <nerp> !win32codec
[03:34] <ubotu> nerp: Syntax error in line 1
[03:34] <az[a] zel> sorry wrong channel
[03:34] <Wipe-Out> guys i need ndis to work other wise no i-net on linux :(
[03:34] <dabaR> :)
[03:34] <Wipe-Out> i want to get rid of windows so badly :s
[03:35] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: you need to tell us what you have tried. in one post. so we know what to do.
[03:35] <alisher> maybe "ubuntu w32codecs"
[03:35] <wrabbit01> Yay! It all works now.  I've just finished installing ubuntu and it rules.  Maybe one day I won't have to run dual boot with XP.
[03:35] <Jack_B> i've gotten rid of XP altogether, never again will i touch it
[03:35] <Wipe-Out> well i installed make,build-essential and gcc and i'm still getting Error 2 when i try to do sudo make
[03:36] <wrabbit01> So cheers to those that pointed me in the right direction earlier.
[03:36] <sudonim> wrabbit01: install VMware then you can run windows if u need to
[03:36] <alisher> good approach, since i installed ubuntu 6mths ago, no a single win boot
[03:36] <dabaR> alisher: I always go with nerim w32 codecs
[03:36] <wrabbit01> via Ubuntu sudonim?
[03:36] <dabaR> or, marillat rathert. thje w32 codedcs packagfe is the same
[03:36] <alisher> me too, marillat one
[03:37] <groovehunter> hi all
[03:37] <Wipe-Out> who works with ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <Jack_B> how powerful is python when compared to other programming languages and what is it used mainly for?
[03:37] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: are you following a instructions document of some sort?
[03:37] <dabaR> an
[03:37] <groovehunter> did a regular 5.04 install, now i have gnome desktop, i just want konqueror, but cant find it in synaptic
[03:37] <Jack_B> like can you actually make a game using python?
[03:38] <nerp> Jack_B, moderatley powerfull but becoming defunct and useless with newer technologies
[03:38] <wrabbit01> As far as I know, it's basically java with a hint of C++ with perks.  Or so I've been told.
[03:38] <sudonim> wrabbit: there is no package for it in synaptic. You can download from tucows: http://www.tucows.com/get/397828_147412
[03:38] <alisher> what for konqueror in gnome?
[03:38] <groovehunter> could you tell me the pkg name?
[03:38] <butcherbird> Jack_B, yes
[03:38] <Jack_B> nerp: more powerful than say, C++?
[03:38] <alisher> it will install lot of KDE stuff you dont need
[03:38] <nerp> not even close
[03:38] <sudonim> wrabbit and then I believe if you look hard enough there is a serial number online for it
[03:38] <Jack_B> ok
[03:38] <wrabbit01> Cheers sudonim, I'll look into it.  One step at a time though eh. ;)  I'm as newbie as they come.
[03:38] <Sonderblade> will ubuntu 5.10 include gnome 2.12?
[03:38] <dabaR> Jack_B: most of gnome I believe is in python. it is used much for guis...go read somewhere, this is not a good place.
[03:38] <nerp> Sonderblade, it does
[03:39] <Jack_B> dabar: roger that
[03:39] <Sonderblade> dabaR: gnome is mostly c
[03:39] <dabaR> there is a #python
[03:39] <alisher> "konqueror"
[03:39] <dabaR> Sonderblade: the guis?
[03:39] <butcherbird> #python not very active mostly
[03:39] <Sonderblade> nerp: thanks
[03:39] <nerp> being a fluxbox user religiously i'm surprised to be using gnome
[03:39] <sudonim> wrabbit01: it is definitely not the next step if you've never installed linux before, but it definitely works in ubuntu and there are some good instructions on how to do it
[03:39] <Wipe-Out> dabaR: can you help me?
[03:39] <nerp> i've used flux for like 3-4 years now
[03:40] <groovehunter> my 2nd question: I assume openssh-server is installed by default isnt it?
[03:40] <Sonderblade> dabaR: nothing of the gnome core is python, but many gnome apps are coded in python
[03:40] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: likely not. what document are you following for instructions?
[03:40] <butcherbird> groovehunter, you have to apt-get openssh-server
[03:40] <groovehunter> how can i start it? i am used to init script in /etc/init.d
[03:40] <dabaR> Sonderblade: thats what I mean, the adduser gui, and what not.
[03:40] <Wipe-Out> just some how to form a dutch site
[03:40] <wrabbit01> sudonim:  I'll get to it eventually. Hopefully, in the coming months I'll have no use for XP.  I'll just need to run specific programs.  3DS Max etc for Uni.
[03:40] <limguohong91> I cannot play .wma file on totem player , it needs plugin what shoudl i do?
[03:41] <nerp> groovehunter, sshd or service sshd start
[03:41] <Jack_B> get w32codecs
[03:41] <groovehunter> butcherbird, i see.  just curious: why isnt it installed? it's  an important tool right?
[03:41] <Sonderblade> dabaR: that app is probably ubuntu specific
[03:41] <nerp> groovehunter, do you want the client or the daemon?
[03:41] <limguohong91> w32codecs?
[03:41] <wrabbit01> I play the odd game now and then aswell but I've heard that wine handles that well
[03:41] <Jack_B> get them here: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt
[03:41] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: look at the official ndiswrapper howto from the wiki. the wiki is wiki.ubuntu.com and it has a search function, and you should search for ndiswrapper
[03:41] <limguohong91> Thanks :)
[03:41] <Jack_B> np limguo
[03:41] <butcherbird> groovehunter, ubuntu by default tends to just install desktop end stuff.
[03:42] <groovehunter> butcherbird, i see
[03:42] <butcherbird> groovehunter, you have the clients but not server apps
[03:42] <wrabbit01> 356 updates takes a while to dl and install. :P
[03:43] <Wipe-Out> dabaR: thx i'll hope this works, it's doing my head in
[03:43] <dabaR> Sonderblade: you are right, I expressed myself wrongly. I meant that most of the apps that are partt of the ubuntu desktop, the ones under system>admin, and so are in python, thanks.
[03:43] <larsrohdin> hi, does anyone know a "time" program... a clock, that can show several timezones at the same time?
[03:43] <dabaR> Wipe-Out: just give it time.
[03:43] <alisher> wrabbit01: have a cup of coffee ... ot two;)
[03:44] <aitor> hi
[03:44] <cantrel29> i am running ubuntu on vmware and it seems to be running with a screenresolution of 600x800 with no other options. how do I run x config?
[03:44] <wrabbit01> alisher: Already put the kettle on. ;P
[03:44] <groovehunter> nerp, both, but daemon is more important. what's the clients pkg name? openssh i guess?
[03:45] <nerp> groovehunter, opensynaptic and search for openssh
[03:45] <JonnyRo> Is there any way to record the output of an rdesktop session?
[03:45] <nerp> it'll list both
[03:45] <aitor> I'm trying to play matroska video files.
[03:45] <nerp> select, dl and you're set
[03:45] <dabaR> cantrel29: is it that yo want a higher resolution?
[03:45] <cantrel29> dabaR: yes
[03:45] <nerp> open synaptic, rather
[03:45] <aitor> In mkv homepage, advice use mplayer
[03:45] <alisher> aitor: does it work??
[03:45] <aitor> no
[03:46] <aitor> i haven soud
[03:46] <aitor> i haven sound
[03:46] <alisher> which player do u use?
[03:46] <Jack_B> so how should i go about installing w32codecs.deb?
[03:46] <dabaR> cantrel29: the configuration of the xserver is done so that you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. it may not fix this. that is why you should follow what ubotu will send you in private.
[03:46] <aitor> mplayer
[03:46] <aitor> vlc nothing
[03:46] <alisher> I think gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:46] <aitor> totem-xine only sound no video
[03:46] <alisher> supports this
[03:47] <alisher> but not sure if mplayer uses it
[03:47] <dabaR> Jack_B: .deb files are installed as so: sudo dpkg -i file.deb, enter
[03:47] <Jack_B> ok
[03:48] <Wipe-Out> ok brb i guess gonna try it again
[03:48] <aitor> using ffplay, the media player of ffmpeg
[03:48] <dabaR> Jack_B: this is ina  terminal, and you have to browse to the folder the file is in, or include the appropriate file path...like, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/downloadFolder/file.deb
[03:48] <Jack_B> thanks dabaR
[03:48] <dabaR> aitor: do you have sound at all on your computer?
[03:48] <aitor> i have no sound
[03:49] <aitor> yes
[03:49] <nerp> aitor, master volume on?
[03:49] <aitor> of course
[03:49] <dabaR> at all on the computer? eevn when you are logging in, there are no sounds?
[03:49] <nerp> err
[03:50] <aitor> Kernel: Linux Nx5000 2.6.12-9-686 #1 Thu Sep 22 20:33:15 UTC 2005 i686
[03:50] <aitor> Config options: 0
[03:50] <aitor> Installed drivers:
[03:50] <aitor> Type 10: ALSA emulation
[03:50] <aitor> Card config:
[03:50] <aitor> Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981B at 0x90600000, irq 17
[03:50] <aitor> Audio devices:
[03:50] <aitor> 0: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 (DUPLEX)
[03:50] <aitor> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[03:50] <aitor> Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[03:50] <aitor> Timers:
[03:50] <aitor> 7: system timer
[03:50] <aitor> Mixers:
[03:50] <aitor> 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
[03:50] <aitor> ummm, there is sound
[03:50] <dabaR> aitor: we need you to not paste any more in the channel. Please use the proper pasting methods
[03:51] <aitor> in mplayer i get a sound, but is only noise
[03:51] <dabaR> so, you have sound coming out the speakers?
[03:51] <aitor> ok, sorry
[03:51] <Jack_B> dabaR, after installing w32codecs, will Mplayer play wma's automatically?
[03:51] <aitor> yes
[03:51] <dabaR> Jack_B: afaik
[03:52] <Jack_B> dabaR, well it doesn't seem to be working for me
[03:52] <aitor> i have sound, i use mplayer, vlc and all players listed after
[03:52] <dabaR> Jack_B: get a whip.
[03:52] <dabaR> aitor: well, what is the file name?
[03:52] <Jack_B> hehehe ok
[03:52] <dabaR> or at l;east extension.
[03:52] <conb> Hi, do you need to pass the kernel any special arguments to get it to resume after a suspend to disk?
[03:52] <aitor> Swordfish.mkv
[03:53] <dabaR> Jack_B: thats what ppl say when yopu tell them: It's not working.
[03:53] <groovehunter> ok thx guys for now nerp butcherbird , i hope my father will manage that on his own hehe (it's his box), cya!
[03:53] <dabaR> aitor: you know this file is possible to play?
[03:53] <nerp> np
[03:54] <aitor> i have another file
[03:54] <aitor> and the same results
[03:54] <dabaR> aitor: what do you have installed? the ubuntu mplayer from universe?
[03:55] <fredforfaen> anyone here that has experience with burning dvds faster than 6x?
[03:55] <aitor> yes, breezy repository, im testing the colony 5
[03:55] <Serv|nokia> hello can somebody help me whit that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2554 ?
[03:56] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: its supposed to be an executable?
[03:56] <Serv|nokia> yes
[03:56] <dabaR> aitor: ok, well, should have told me.
[03:56] <Serv|nokia> whit that program i can download files what i need for gameserver
[03:56] <dabaR> aitor: so I can say, I dont feel like doing this
[03:56] <Serv|nokia> ./steam -command update -game cstrike -dir /home/oxid
[03:56] <fredforfaen> anyone?
[03:56] <Serv|nokia> but i cant get it run
[03:56] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: well...you will then need to make it executable.
[03:57] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: chmod +x steam
[03:57] <Serv|nokia> yesterday it was working for about 1h?
[03:57] <jMCg> morning
[03:57] <Serv|nokia> dabaR i has set chmod +x
[03:57] <aitor> what?
[03:57] <Serv|nokia> i downloaded some ia32-lib something like that
[03:57] <Serv|nokia> then i get it work and now it dosent work again
[03:57] <alisher> gruessgott
[03:57] <syntaxx> i formatted my xp. and my boot loader is gone.. is there a way that i can boot my linux or is there any smaller files that i need to download if i loss my cd?
[03:58] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: look at your ls, it clearly shows the file is not executable, along with showing root is the owner and group for the file.
[03:58] <Serv|nokia> dabaR: i user 64bit system ubuntu
[03:58] <dabaR> -rw-r--r--   1 root  root  7836330 2005-08-23 00:32 steam
[03:58] <dabaR> does anyone agree with him that the file is executable?
[03:58] <Serv|nokia> dabaR: its old whit that line now its: -rwxr-xr-x   1 root   root    7640 2005-04-08 00:04 steam
[03:58] <jMCg> uhm.. im searching for a package, which as far as i know only ubuntu has: it's for intel chipset laptops, for switching between the modes of the gfx card
[03:58] <nerp> no
[03:58] <Outlier> Does anyone know where you set the default video app in firefox / gnome / hoary ? The system keeps trying to use totem.
[03:59] <nerp> sudo chown user:user file
[03:59] <Serv|nokia> when i type sh steam -> steam: steam: cannot execute binary file
[03:59] <nerp> then chmod a+x file
[03:59] <Serv|nokia> when i type ./steam -> Segmentation fault
[03:59] <Pickle_Weasel> ..steam works without wine/cedega? =O
[04:00] <Serv|nokia> wine/cedega?
[04:00] <dabaR> is steam a windows application?
[04:00] <snorks> yes
[04:00] <nerp> wine and cedega are emulators, cedega is the next gen of wine
[04:00] <gorilla> Pickle_Weasel, no it doesn't... Serv|nokia: you need to install win or cedega which are emulators.
[04:00] <snorks> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:00] <Serv|nokia> sudo apt-get install cedega ?
[04:01] <Pickle_Weasel> if he's speaking of the steam i think he is, then steam is an updates for windows games like counter-strike and half life
[04:01] <dabaR> no, cedega cost $, wine is in universe.
[04:01] <nerp> no, cedega isn't free
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> ouly shit
[04:01] <abdada_> i am having trouble starting xwindows on my acer travelmate. it appears the vide may be setup incorrectly.  does anyone have any experience with this?
[04:01] <nerp> wine you can get for free
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> i get it work
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> :d
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> i most use non-root
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> user
[04:01] <dabaR> heh
[04:01] <Serv|nokia> dam it
[04:02] <Serv|nokia> so little probla m
[04:02] <dabaR> abdada_: what graphics card?
[04:02] <Serv|nokia> and i was thinking about it 15h
[04:02] <Serv|nokia> :(
[04:02] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: good.
[04:02] <Serv|nokia> yeah :d
[04:02] <nerp> bah, i'm in the process of restoring my music libraries, this is going to take all day
[04:02] <Serv|nokia> how stupyd can i be
[04:04] <dabaR> Serv|nokia: not stupid, just not following the ubuntu way of sudo:P
[04:04] <Pickle_Weasel> sudo is such a pain sometimes -_-
[04:04] <Serv|nokia> dabaR: mby yes i was using last time gentoo
[04:04] <abdada_> dabaR: ATI radeon x700
[04:04] <Serv|nokia> but the ubuntu look better for my eyes
[04:04] <Serv|nokia> :p
[04:05] <nerp> Pickle_Weasel, why?
[04:05] <Pickle_Weasel> because you can't log in as root, this causes a few problems which aren't impossible to fix, but take longer =\
[04:06] <Pickle_Weasel> such as copying files, or deleting files, etc...you either have to do it through console, or sudo nautilus
[04:06] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: you can log in as root, just set a root passwd
[04:06] <Pickle_Weasel> >.>
[04:06] <nerp> Pickle_Weasel, add a line to your sudoers file to not require password, just sudo command..
[04:07] <brainball> you dont even have to set a root password just do a sudo su
[04:07] <havoc> brainball: heh, that too :)
[04:07] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: see, many options :)
[04:08] <Pickle_Weasel> i've yet to switch over to ubuntu, i just can't leave the familiarity of windows behind quite yet >.>
[04:08] <rosros_> ...
[04:08] <Pickle_Weasel> have a dual boot set up, learning more with every login
[04:09] <Hobbsee> Pickle_Weasel: are you finding that windows annoys you each time you go there as well?
[04:09] <Pickle_Weasel> oh god yes >.>
[04:09] <nerp> i haven't used windows in years, unless i'm at a friends house or whatever
[04:09] <nerp> it's incredibly annoying
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> after a linux session i log into windows and find myself screaming at the PC, something like "OPEN!" or "COME ON!, FASTER!"
[04:10] <Hobbsee> it is...it's not too bad for gaming though
[04:10] <Hobbsee> LOL
[04:10] <Hobbsee> or "dont crash the entire OS with one program!"
[04:10] <jack-> question..is there any way to get the gnome-vfs stuff working in a terminal too?
[04:10] <nerp> most of the time that I come in contact with windows it's to fix peoples spyware, software or hardware probs
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> aye, that's another thing, the games i play work in linux, for the most part, i got doom III working, and UT2k4
[04:10] <Hobbsee> or "you mean to say that you cant do at least 3 things at once?"
[04:10] <havoc> or at least keep a win32 workstation arround
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> as soon as i get CSS working i will have no reason for windows
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> but i've yet to do that
[04:10] <Jack_B> gaming on linux is dismal
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> as cedega and wine tend to..not work
[04:11] <Jack_B> you need wine for most
[04:11] <havoc> bah, games
[04:11] <brainball> more and more starts to work with cedega though
[04:11] <Hobbsee> sims 2 doesnt work on linux...otherwise i'd be windows free
[04:11] <jack-> vmware is nicer btw
[04:11] <Ng> not for games
[04:11] <Hobbsee> doesnt work with cedega either, apparently
[04:11] <havoc> brainball: what is cedega?
[04:11] <Ng> vmware is useless for games
[04:11] <Hobbsee> !cedega
[04:11] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:11] <Ng> CS:S works in cedega though and that's all that matters ;)
[04:11] <jack-> oh
[04:11] <brainball> www.transgaming.com
[04:11] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:12] <nerp> i'd like to see novalogic games like black hawk down and joint ops work with linux, i'd be super happy then
[04:12] <Hobbsee> all the first person shooters work, yeah
[04:12] <havoc> ah, the new WineX?
[04:12] <Pickle_Weasel> last week i got DSL, and was finally able to get linux online, so i thought "alright! let's get this going"
[04:12] <Hobbsee> pity i dont play them most of the time!
[04:12] <nerp> heck i might even go buy a new box just because
[04:12] <nerp> hehe
[04:12] <Pickle_Weasel> and i find myISP banned from this channel..
[04:12] <Falstius> I'm trying to find some good hardware monitoring software for ubuntu (along the lines of speedfan) ... any suggestions?   Or atleast a better front-end for it
[04:12] <Pickle_Weasel> well Hobbsee, otherwise the ban can be evaded
[04:12] <jjazz> havoc:  Yes.  They also make crossover office, which is the same thing for Windows productivity apps, like Word, Excel and Outlook.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> true
[04:13] <havoc> jjazz: yeah, I just hadn't heard of cedega before
[04:13] <Pickle_Weasel> i'm willing to take an undeserved week ban for the safety of the channel
[04:13] <Hobbsee> true
[04:13] <Hobbsee> the advantages of being in australia - hardly anyone else uses this isp, even though it's common here
[04:14] <ryanakca> is it possible to install php5 instead and have the instructions of this howto still working: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04_p5 ?
[04:14] <Pickle_Weasel> i have a few minor problems with linux...for example i've gotten accustomed to running pretty much everything through irc
[04:14] <Pickle_Weasel> opening websites and such
[04:14] <Pickle_Weasel> /google, /url http://www...etc
[04:15] <jack-> so? use irssi
[04:15] <jack-> all you want is there
[04:15] <nerp> indeed
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> i set that up in XChat, but with my limited programming skills i messed it up somehow
[04:15] <jack-> xchat too btw
[04:15] <nerp> minus gui
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> and i can open one firefox window at a time
[04:15] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: xchat is better in linux
[04:15] <Jack_B> what's the command to list process ids?
[04:15] <jack-> ps
[04:15] <Strog> Mmmm irssi
[04:15] <havoc> Jack_B: ps
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> havoc, i haven't tried it anywhere but linux
[04:15] <Jack_B> k
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> i want my mIRC in linux though =(
[04:15] <jack-> lol
[04:15] <havoc> ah
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> i know mIRC well, and i have it doing what i want
[04:15] <jack-> go back to windows, dude ;)
[04:16] <brainball> pff who needs mirc
[04:16] <nerp> mIRC is completely annoying
[04:16] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't see how mIRC is annoying =\
[04:16] <havoc> xchat is better (btu I use irssi)
[04:17] <Falstius> people who use mIRC tend to be annoying though ...
[04:17] <Pickle_Weasel> bah, bittorrent in linux annoys me
[04:17] <nerp> havoc, I disagree, irssi is much more powerful, less buggy and faster
[04:17] <Pickle_Weasel> it seems to continue my download, i need to find the .torrent file each time
[04:17] <jack-> yeah falstius, its only 80% of irc
[04:17] <havoc> nerp: I meant xchat is better than mIRC
[04:17] <jack-> so i guess you're right :P
[04:17] <nerp> oh, yes agreed there
[04:17] <Falstius> jack-: atleast 80% of irc is annoying.
[04:17] <jack-> just what i'm saying ;)
[04:17] <havoc> too bad irssi is an all but dead project
[04:18] <Answer> Hello #ubuntu
[04:18] <jack-> havoc, huh
[04:18] <nerp> havoc, irssi is NOT dead
[04:18] <jack-> you see any need for further improvements? i dont
[04:18] <ryanakca> I know there is libapache-mod-php5.0, but where do I get it for libapache2? installed with apt
[04:18] <havoc> nerp: when was the last release?
[04:18] <jack-> its damn stable and has shitloads of features, i wasnt missing anything yet
[04:18] <Answer> Question: from the LiveCD, how can I set a password or su root ?
[04:18] <nerp> small additions are made
[04:18] <nerp> they're working on a RC now
[04:18] <dabaR> Answer: why would you want to?
[04:18] <jack-> answer, you dont
[04:18] <Pickle_Weasel> i need to figure out how to launch firefox with a /command in XChat
[04:19] <jack-> but you could try sudo su -
[04:19] <Pickle_Weasel> more than one instance of firefox, that is
[04:19] <havoc> jack-: yes, there is need, there are many bugs that have been fixed in the daily builds, but no release that gets packaged in distros
[04:19] <Answer> dabaR: I need to run some things as root, not sudo
[04:19] <Answer> jack-: Thanks, "sudo su -"
[04:19] <dabaR> sudo bash works too.
[04:19] <alisher> Pickle: /url
[04:19] <jjazz> Pickle_Weasel:  check /tmp.  The .torrent might be there.
[04:19] <Pickle_Weasel> that's not a valid XChat command =\
[04:19] <mikhail^> why does the wiki take too long to update?
[04:19] <Falstius> if you eject from the GUI there needs to be something that notifies people when a usb device is finished unmounting
[04:20] <Pickle_Weasel> jjazz, that's not a problem, i adapted and now save the .torrents to my desktop, it just annoys me that i can't open bittorrent and it continue my downloads by itself
[04:20] <Pickle_Weasel> like it does in windows
[04:20] <ryanakca> anyone have an idea on how I could install libapache2-mod-php5.0 with apt? Will libapache-mod-php5 work on apache2?
[04:21] <Serv|nokia> how to get work php4 and mysql?
[04:21] <Serv|nokia> mysql is working but php module mysql
[04:21] <alisher> Pickle_Weasel: does bittornado do it?
[04:21] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't know, i've never used anything but bittorrent
[04:22] <Falstius> Pickle_Weasel: azureus is nice (and the same in windows and linux)
[04:22] <nerp> bittornado seems to be a bit more forgiving
[04:22] <Pickle_Weasel> azureus seems a bit too..i don't know, too many bells and whistles
[04:22] <Pickle_Weasel> i tried it once in windows and removed it because there was no reason for it
[04:22] <Pickle_Weasel> since bittorrent worked fine
[04:22] <Pickle_Weasel> but i should try it in ubuntu
[04:23] <Pickle_Weasel> i'll be messing with ubuntu later today when my downloads finish in..6 hours >.>
[04:23] <Falstius> it seems to be removed for AMD64 archs though :(
[04:23] <ThJ> hi, is joe available for ubuntu? can't seem to find it with apt-get/apt-cache
[04:24] <Serv|nokia> dabaR: E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql
[04:24] <Pickle_Weasel> AMD64 is still x86..
[04:24] <Pickle_Weasel> just with 64bit extensions
[04:24] <Pickle_Weasel> you can run an i386 kernel on AMD64
[04:24] <alisher> joe is in Universe or Multiverse
[04:24] <ThJ> alisher: ah, so i just uncomment those?
[04:24] <Falstius> yeah, but I'm not
[04:24] <alisher> yes
[04:25] <Pickle_Weasel> if you decide to stray from i386, then learn to compile =P
[04:25] <alisher> Universe
[04:25] <ThJ> that wroked :)
[04:25] <ThJ> thanks guys
[04:25] <ThJ> lol... it -worked-
[04:26] <Falstius> I know how to compile, but thats not the point
[04:26] <ThJ> fanskapet? hahah... i'm not going to say what that is in norwegian.
[04:26] <Falstius> azureus is a pain to compile anyway
[04:26] <gorilla> Pickle_Weasel, an i386 kernel on a amd64 sounds terrible :-/
[04:26] <Pickle_Weasel> gorilla, but it works!
[04:26] <ThJ> well, bye
[04:26] <gorilla> Pickle_Weasel, true :-)
[04:27] <jim_uk> i am trying to install ubuntu on a old laptop before installing it on my desktop. When i try to load the disk it enters low memory mode and prompts me to create a swap space asap. How do i go about doing this so i can install it on my machine?
[04:27] <nerp> jim_uk, how old is the laptop, how much mem?
[04:27] <Pickle_Weasel> um, the installer is usually pretty self-explanatory
[04:27] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[04:27] <sproingie> gorilla: if you want to run games, you're going to want an i386 kernel
[04:28] <sproingie> gorilla: since you won't get any 3d accel in emulation
[04:28] <Falstius> jim, do you know what swap space is?
[04:28] <gorilla> sproingie, depends on the game that you are wanting to run ;-)
[04:29] <Pickle_Weasel> aye, the PC game market is kind of in a dry season right now
[04:29] <jim_uk> not really i think it is a partition of the hard drive used to act like extra mem
[04:29] <Pickle_Weasel> but CSS keeps me entertained
[04:29] <sproingie> i'm always a couple years behind in games anyway.  cheaper that way
[04:29] <Pickle_Weasel> i just need CSS working in ibuntu >.>
[04:29] <Pickle_Weasel> haha, cheaper indeed
[04:29] <kent> Is there any free player/codec for Ubuntu breezy that will let me play realaudio?
[04:29] <fanskapet> did i get a quote as quit-message!?
[04:29] <Pickle_Weasel> the steam account i use is my pal's
[04:29] <hutgyrr> how can I find out the group ID of a file or folder?
[04:30] <havoc> hutgyrr: ls
[04:30] <Pickle_Weasel> i just started playing CSS last week, he played a lot but now he's on tour with his band, so i offered to keep it warm for him
[04:30] <havoc> hutgyrr: ls -la <dir/file>
[04:30] <Answer> Question: alternative to GAIM for instant messaging?
[04:30] <Ng> kent: mplayer/ffmpeg probably can, or you can install the official linux Real Player client
[04:31] <alisher> kent: totem-xine
[04:31] <Pickle_Weasel> gxine is a pretty spiffy player
[04:31] <havoc> hutgyrr: sorry, 'ls -ln <dir/file>' for numeric IDs
[04:31] <hutgyrr> so lets say it says root in the third column and root in the fourth. Does this mean root is group and owner?
[04:31] <Pickle_Weasel> does pretty much anything if you set it up right
[04:31] <kent> Ng, realplayer is not free :(
[04:31] <hutgyrr> oh yeah
[04:31] <hutgyrr> get it now
[04:32] <havoc> hutgyrr: yes
[04:32] <Falstius> jim_uk: exactly, you need to create a partition for it when you install ubuntu
[04:32] <Ng> kent: they do a free (as in beer) player, but yeah it;'s not Free (as in speech)
[04:32] <kent> alindeman, I tried totem-xine and it did not work. I dont want to install the w32codecs, since they are probably ilegal.. :(
[04:32] <Falstius> you can create it later, but then you need to have unpartitioned space on the hd.
[04:32] <havoc> hutgyrr: 'man ls' for more options
[04:32] <dooglus> where do you guys get free beer?
[04:32] <Pickle_Weasel> !RestrictedFormats
[04:32] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:32] <kent> alisher, I tried totem-xine and it did not work. I dont want to install the w32codecs, since they are probably ilegal.. :(
[04:32] <Answer> alternative to gaim ?
[04:32] <hutgyrr> how can I change a folder and all files in it too a new group. chgrp ?
[04:32] <nerp> kent, they are not illegal
[04:32] <Falstius> dooglus: my uncles.
[04:32] <Pickle_Weasel> ^look at what ubotu said >.>
[04:32] <havoc> hutgyrr: yes
[04:32] <dooglus> do you mean the recipe for making beer is free?
[04:33] <nerp> dooglus, there is opensource beer now
[04:33] <jack-> hutgyrr: chown
[04:33] <jim_uk> I think i need to create it before i try to install ubuntu
[04:33] <Pickle_Weasel> if you have the right repository all you need to do is apt-get install realplayer
[04:33] <hutgyrr> chown dirname and then the number, is it?
[04:33] <Pickle_Weasel> simple as can be
[04:33] <gorilla> nerp, yes the beer is free but the bottle is not :-)
[04:33] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: doesn't realplayer suck though?
[04:33] <alisher> is it illegal, if you have a licensed WinXP to install w32codecs?
[04:33] <Pickle_Weasel> indeed it does!
[04:33] <ccc> anyone familiar with pure-ftpd and care to help me out?
[04:33] <havoc> hutgyrr: chown -R user.group dir
[04:33] <jim_uk> do i just run fdisk then create an extended partition?
[04:33] <nerp> alisher, no
[04:33] <Pickle_Weasel> which is why i do not use it, i am just trying to help someone who does
[04:34] <alisher> kent: you have XP, right?>
[04:34] <dooglus> friends don't let friends install realplayer
[04:34] <jack-> havoc: wrong, should be user:group
[04:34] <Pickle_Weasel> dooglus, right you are
[04:34] <kent> alisher, No, I run Ubuntu, I dont have windows.
[04:34] <havoc> jack-: user.group is what I always use and it works
[04:34] <jack-> weirdness
[04:34] <jack-> ok
[04:35] <alisher> then it may be illegal for you
[04:35] <Falstius> jim_uk: you can do it in the installer, just create a 500 mb partition and choose the swap format.
[04:35] <havoc> jack-: it probably recognizes many seperators
[04:35] <Pickle_Weasel> or you can just wipe everything, or resize an existing partition and tell it to "automatically redistribute free space"
[04:35] <jack-> looks like it :)
[04:35] <Falstius> havoc: the : is correct, the others are "obselete"
[04:36] <Falstius> but it still supports 'em.
[04:36] <havoc> Falstius: I figured it was something like that
[04:36] <Falstius> you can use a , too but it might yell at you.
[04:36] <havoc> ':' is better anyway
[04:36] <Pickle_Weasel> i want my torrents to finish so i can boot into ubuntu ;_;
[04:36] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: restart them in linux
[04:37] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't want to restart a 3 gig torrent that's at 96% >.>
[04:37] <Pickle_Weasel> i just need to waste time
[04:37] <jack-> one of the drawbacks with p2p downloads..no resume :P
[04:37] <Pickle_Weasel> ...?
[04:38] <havoc> jack-: you can resume a torrent
[04:38] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: you can resume torrents - no need to restart
[04:38] <Pickle_Weasel> you can resume!
[04:38] <dooglus> it's hard *not* to resume, in fact
[04:38] <Pickle_Weasel> dooglus, but it's a pain to get them to resume in linux
[04:38] <havoc> doh, I meant 'resume', not 'restart'
[04:38] <Pickle_Weasel> and dooglus, i was talking about this earlier
[04:38] <Pickle_Weasel> in linux, bittorrent is gaying it up
[04:38] <dooglus> Pickle_Weasel: it is?  why?  all you do is make sure the data is in place and it'll resume
[04:38] <Pickle_Weasel> it needs the .torrent file each time
[04:38] <jack-> ok, nice
[04:38] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: you jsut restart the torrent and BT figures it out, no pain at all
[04:38] <dooglus> did you just say "gaying it up"???
[04:39] <Pickle_Weasel> no >.>
[04:39] <eliphas_> in linux torrent works fine
[04:39] <dooglus> heh
[04:39] <Pickle_Weasel> yes the torrents work fine
[04:39] <dooglus> out of the two, I would say that Windows was the gayer operating system.
[04:39] <Pickle_Weasel> but like i said earlier, i need the .torrent file to resume
[04:39] <havoc> Pickle_Weasel: of course you do
[04:39] <havoc> so save the file
[04:39] <eliphas_> of course you do
[04:40] <Pickle_Weasel> well, that's a bit frustrating
[04:40] <havoc> just save the file
[04:40] <eliphas_> why that's just normal
[04:40] <Pickle_Weasel> you see, in windows, i open the .torrent once, and that's it! i'm done with it!
[04:40] <Pickle_Weasel> next time i open bittorrent it's already in there, downloading
[04:40] <Pickle_Weasel> in linux it's a pain to open each .torrent every time when i have say..17 of them
[04:40] <eliphas_> no next time you open azureus or what ever
[04:40] <eliphas_> soft you use
[04:40] <Pickle_Weasel> as opposed to clicking one thing i need to click 17
[04:41] <eliphas_> you azureus or qtorrent
[04:41] <eliphas_> use
[04:41] <Pickle_Weasel> bittorrent
[04:41] <Pickle_Weasel> or.. "gnometorrent"
[04:41] <eliphas_> hopeless
[04:42] <Pickle_Weasel> me?
[04:42] <Pickle_Weasel> because i'm annoyed with having to do more work than needed?
[04:42] <Pickle_Weasel> this makes me hopeless?
[04:42] <Pickle_Weasel> i fail to see the logic in that
[04:45] <alisher> bittorrnado allows resuming, i guess
[04:45] <alisher> bittornado-gui
[04:46] <Pickle_Weasel> i've only tried bittorrent, i will try others today
[04:46] <alisher> BitTornado is the next generation bittorrent client built on
[04:46] <alisher> the original BitTorrent. It does
[04:46] <alisher> everything the original bittorrent does, plus more...
[04:46] <Pickle_Weasel> sounds spiffy
[04:47] <alisher> i tried bittornado-gui long time ago, but remember it supported resuming
[04:47] <Pickle_Weasel> it's all still bittornado
[04:48] <Pickle_Weasel> bittornado-gui is the interface
[04:48] <Pickle_Weasel> gives you pretty buttons to click =P
[04:48] <Pickle_Weasel> rather than typing it out in the terminal
[04:49] <alisher> they are all bittorent clients
[04:49] <Pickle_Weasel> anyway, i'm afk as of now
[04:49] <Pickle_Weasel> i know, yes
[04:49] <Pickle_Weasel> afk >.> shower time
[04:49] <alisher> anyway, you just need to sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[04:49] <alisher> it will install backend automatically
[04:49] <alisher> and all dependencies
[04:50] <Zalbor> I don't have any sound in x-chat or KDE apps, while in gnome it works. I don't really care about KDE, but I need sound in xchat. They told me to try "killall esd" and it worked, but if I do this nothing else has sound. Any ideas?
[04:50] <hussam> after upgrading to breezy, /bin/lsmod.modutils is now a dead link, what should I do?
[04:51] <alisher> or bittorent-gui
[04:52] <jack-> how can i find out the connection specs of my ethernet card? 10/100mbit, duplex and stuff? in bsd, ifconfig tells..cant find anything in ubuntu's ifconfig output
[04:52] <linuxmonkey> Has any one had anyproblems installing realplayer
[04:52] <alisher> which problem
[04:52] <linuxmonkey> like not launching once its installed
[04:53] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[04:53] <alisher> it is because of the sound server
[04:54] <alisher> System->Preferences->Sound
[04:54] <alisher> switch off sounds for events
[04:56] <Jack_B> how do i save a vi file?
[04:56] <ElkOS> :wq or ZZ
[04:56] <Zalbor> :w
[04:57] <Jack_B> thanks
[04:57] <Zalbor> :wq is to quit right after saving
[04:57] <ElkOS> yehyeh
[04:57] <ElkOS> ;)
[04:57] <jack-> how can i find out the connection specs of my ethernet card? 10/100mbit, duplex and stuff? in bsd, ifconfig tells..cant find anything in ubuntu's ifconfig output
[04:57] <alisher> linuxmonkey: or you have to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55069
[04:58] <jack-> plz..any hint
[04:59] <sproingie> jack-: ifconfig eth0
[04:59] <Zalbor> I don't have any sound in x-chat or KDE apps, while in gnome it works. I don't really care about KDE, but I need sound in xchat. They told me to try "killall esd" and it worked, but if I do this nothing else has sound. Any ideas?
[04:59] <Strog> sproingie: That doesn't show speed, duplex, etc.
[04:59] <jack-> yep :<
[04:59] <sproingie> jack-: oddly enough, it doesnt tell me either.  what a bummer.  might be in dmesg