[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, just erase
[04:11] <Tido> ahhh ok
[04:11] <fluvvell> zeroth: as above
[04:11] <targetx> fluvvell, yep, for me too :) pretty cool!
[04:11] <Tido> how do I do it in the graphical file browser?
[04:11] <fcfdj> what is lvm out of curosity?
[04:11] <fluvvell> zeroth_:  you have a laptop?
[04:11] <zeroth_> Yeah.
[04:11] <holy_cow> zeroth_, what i'm getting at is that no one in the channel can run you through it, the process tends to be labourious, but i gave you the steps you need to start with
[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, something like raid.. to manage hard disks in a efficient way
[04:11] <targetx> fcfdj, but you don't want it for a normal box, normally
[04:11] <holy_cow> zeroth_, chances are your wireless hardware isn't supported, but thats just a guess as i have no clue what chipset your hardware has
[04:11] <zeroth_> holy_cow, that's pretty homosexual. :/
[04:11] <fcfdj> ok thanx
[04:11] <flocrypt> no it is not so new, i hava an athlon 1200MHz CPU and I dont know what motherboard this is
[04:12] <fluvvell> well mine works, are you using wep encryption?
[04:12] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, sure
[04:12] <targetx> WPA Encryption even works in the latest Ubuntu (They updated the intel firmware etc!)
[04:12] <zeroth_> Cheers guys.
[04:12] <holy_cow> fluvvell, indeed
[04:12] <Epix> What apt package do I need to play mp3s? (the lib)
[04:12] <targetx> apt-get install gstreamer-media* I think it was..
[04:12] <holy_cow> zeroth_, take it or leave it, you will be doing the work, no one here will do it for  you thats for sure
[04:12] <carlosqueso> holy_cow: here's a more specific ?  I have a dlink DWL-650, 'tis supposed to be supported, running in ndiswrapper, but screws my system and doesn't work when it's in
[04:12] <carlosqueso> any ideas?
[04:12] <lsald> !tell Epix about mp3
[04:12] <bimberi> Epix: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats (under Codecs)
[04:13] <drewbie> tido, in a terminal: sudo nautilus
[04:13] <fluvvell> holy_cow: is there a list of wireless tools to peruse?
[04:13] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, no not with ndiswrapper, infact i go out of my way to ditch any such devices and buy things natively supported
[04:13] <crimsun> flocrypt: sec
[04:13] <carlosqueso> It's supposed to be, according to the wiki
[04:13] <holy_cow> fluvvell, there is a list of wireless network cards supported yes, but i don't have the link unfortunately :/
[04:13] <flocrypt> sec
[04:14] <carlosqueso> but isn't unless there're some drivers that aren't installed out of the box
[04:14] <natex> Epix, you only need gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 playback
[04:14] <bimberi> !wireless
[04:14] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:14] <sun_> what's kernel use of ubuntu
[04:14] <bimberi> fluvvell: ^^^^
[04:14] <carlosqueso> bimberi...that's what it it
[04:14] <bimberi> sun_: breezy - 2.6.12
[04:14] <gnomefreak> hoary uses same no?
[04:14] <Sean89> Can somebody please help me mount a windows folder?
[04:15] <bimberi> gnomefreak: no, hoary uses 2.6.10
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhh to bimberi
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:15] <bimberi> Sean89: Places -> Connect to Server
[04:15] <sun_> where to download it
[04:15] <holy_cow> carlosqueso, don't know, sorry :/
[04:15] <fluvvell> bimberi: no, its more the ubuntu tools im interested in, my hardware is supported and works.  I just need tools to fiddle with it, adjust and do things like reconnect when I've been out of range
[04:15] <sun_> bimberi,where to download it
[04:15] <crimsun> flocrypt: lsmod|grep ^snd_cmipci
[04:16] <bimberi> sun_: http://www.ubuntu.com (click on Download)
[04:16] <bimberi> fluvvell: network-manager might be worth a look then
[04:16] <gnomefreak> im not the brightest person but why would you need a kernel your operating system already has?
[04:16] <sun_> what's difference between breezy with linux kernel 2.6.12 download from www.kernel.org
[04:17] <natex> Sean89, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html
[04:17] <flocrypt> ok i will try that
[04:17] <twisted_maple> crimsun: are you around?
[04:17] <glick> gnomefreak, what the heck you talkin bout?
[04:17] <bimberi> sun_: sorry, if you want the kernel sources - http://packages.ubuntu.com (thanks for the clue gnomefreak :) )
[04:17] <crimsun> sun_: Breezy's 2.6.12 isn't 2.6.12. It's 2.6.12+lots of patches.
[04:17] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: for compiling kernel modules
[04:17] <crimsun> bimberi: (linux-source-2.6.12)
[04:17] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: one's that aren't already in the kernel
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yw bimberi
[04:17] <glick> sun_,  the linux kernel from kernel.org is not an operating system
[04:17] <bimberi> crimsun: yep
[04:17] <glick> sun_, breezy is
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yubimusubi: ty
[04:18] <yubimusubi> gnomefreak: yw
[04:18] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  any thoughts on the AWE64 PNPDUMP I provided the night before last.  Still getting no device errors.
[04:18] <crimsun> twisted_maple: yes, but not for much longer (for a bit). I'm about to grab something to eat.
[04:18] <holy_cow> crimsun, and appearently the kernel headers don't match the kernel as of today, i couldn't compile some drivers for vmware after upgrade :/
[04:18] <crimsun> holy_cow: err what?
[04:18] <crimsun> breezy's frozen
[04:19] <holy_cow> crimsun, sure, but somethings out of whack, i haven't tracked it down yet exactly
[04:19] <crimsun> twisted_maple: ok, did you ever try reenabling pnp os and trying a simple ''sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''?
[04:19] <kip^> can someone help me with my wi-fi card - senao 2511, prism2 chipset
[04:19] <kip^> it's showing up twice - wlan0 and wifi0
[04:19] <twisted_maple> yup... did not work.
[04:20] <stevenj> Will some some expert please take a look at my xsession error and offer any suggestions, (I am thinking it might be common) thank you! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3709
[04:20] <sun_> how to add these pathches to kernel
[04:20] <twisted_maple> crimsun: yup did not work.
[04:20] <sun_> glick,how to add pathches to kernel
[04:20] <crimsun> sun_: it's available already patched in the 'linux-source-2.6.12' package.
[04:20] <stevenj> Also this is a clean breezy install
[04:21] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  pulled out the AWE card and stuck in an old SB8.  Still cannot do modprobe snd-sb8.  I get device not found.
[04:21] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  Think technical solution is to get a PCI sound card and enjoy.
[04:21] <sun_> crimsun,i know,i want to know the process,not the result
[04:21] <kip^> and won't connect to anything - also how can i tell which drivers i'm using
[04:21] <fcfdj> ubuntu's install doesn't want to play with my computer i better call geek squad!
[04:21] <gnomefreak> stevenj: sorry but that wasnt the one ive seen im not real sure what that one is all about. does your xsession start when you boot up?
[04:21] <glick> sun_, you have to use the patch program, but its not a good idea to use vanilla kernels unless you know what you are doing.   We must be missing a parameter.
[04:23] <twisted_maple> fcfdj:  It is a poor mind that can spell a word in only one way.
[04:23] <stevenj> gnomefreak, yes everything "seems" to working, I have found instances of the same think on ubuntu forums, and other forums but no solution or what it even means
[04:23] <twisted_maple> Crimsun: Why the device not found message?
[04:23] <fcfdj> i like that
[04:23] <stevenj> gnomefreak, yes everything I cant type tonight
[04:24] <twisted_maple> fcfdj:  Benjamin Franklin quote...
[04:24] <fcfdj> i was gonna say are you a philosopher
[04:24] <flocrypt> crimsun:  Hi, i did the code you gave me and I got this back: snd_cmipci             30368  0
[04:24] <crimsun> twisted_maple: see missing parameter statement I just made...
[04:24] <sun_> glick:)i see
[04:24] <flocrypt> whats next?
[04:24] <crimsun> flocrypt: cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:24] <glick> i wish they would make a ubuntu using the freebsd kernel
[04:24] <x_or> I have two disks which have exactly the same /boot/grub/menu.lst, but one won't boot.  Is there a way to verify the MBRs are the same?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> stevenj: have you tried re configuring you xorg file?
[04:25] <glick> they could call it fubuntu
[04:25] <sun_> crimsun,thanks
[04:25] <crimsun> glick: it's doable, since there's Debian GNU/kBSD
[04:25] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  I did not expect modprobe to be so terse.  Hoped it would say something more explicit like:  Dear User, You are forgetting parameter XXX.
[04:25] <flocrypt> crimsun: --- no soundcards ---
[04:25] <glick> crimsun, yeah i know its duable
[04:25] <stevenj> gnomefreak, I have'nt...  You spelled Philospher incorrectly.  It is Filosefer.
[04:26] <propagandhi> anyone tried opera 9.0 beta or the Flock browser?
[04:26] <crimsun> HrdwrBoB: (of course it isn't ;-)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> stevenj: its been so long ago i cant remember command to get you to re config it but i do remember to reconfig it you need moniter keyboard and mouse info
[04:26] <flocrypt> crimsun... --- no soundcards ---  was the sad answer of my computer
[04:27] <twisted_maple> crimsun:  I will take a look at the ALSA params and keep slogging.  Thanks for the help.
[04:27] <crimsun> flocrypt: please paste the output from ''lspci -nv'' and ''lspci -v'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:27] <gnomefreak> gedit xsession/xorg? does that sound close?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:27] <x_or> Anyone know how to check the MBR of a disk?
[04:27] <flocrypt> crimsun: ok, thanx
[04:27] <stevenj> gnomefreak, I mean I have it opened in gedit, just not sure what to look for :)
[04:28] <intelikey> x_or check for ?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> stevenj: just re do the settings make sure ur moniter is right so on and so forth
[04:28] <x_or> intellikey:  I have two disks, with I hope identical installs.  One boots, and the other doesn't.
[04:28] <fcfdj> via torrent
[04:28] <x_or> So, I am trying to investigate the mbr, to see if they are different.
[04:29] <Hobbsee> x_or: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:29] <gnomefreak> stevenj: that fixed the problem everyone had with X a while back hopping it will yours too but no harm in trying
[04:29] <Hobbsee> x_or: is where it's located
[04:29] <ozzy_cow> hey guys, I'm trying to mount ntfs partition and after using the winmac utility from the wiki, but I'm unable to write to the partition
[04:29] <stevenj> gnomefreak, thanks at least its a place to start
[04:29] <x_or> Hobbsee:  I diffed that with the existing (both are now plugged in and mounted) but there is no difference.
[04:29] <gnomefreak> stevenj: yw
[04:30] <fcfdj> mdcums?
[04:30] <fcfdj> mdsums?
[04:30] <fcfdj> i just am going to let ubuntu do what it wishes regardless of the time i allow
[04:30] <fcfdj> i think the cdrom drivers were misinterpreted
[04:30] <ozzy_cow> I just checked the fstab file and it should mount writtable
[04:30] <Hobbsee> x_or: does sudo fdisk -l show the same thing on both machines?
[04:30] <sirmixalot> haha
[04:30] <sirmixalot> i needed something more unique
[04:30] <silasj> hi all
[04:31] <x_or> Hobbsee:  yep, identical, boot flag is set to /dev/hda1 and /dev/hdb1.
[04:31] <silasj> hey, what's the xinit start file?
[04:32] <intelikey> hmmm something like "cut -b100 /dev/hd? | less " and see if there is a boot loader on both  mbrs but you might also "cfdisk /dev/hd? " and see if they are both active.    i assume you do mean that one fails bios bootstrap booting.   else it is not a mbr problem it is a boot loader problem.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> x_or: hmmm
[04:32] <pietro_spina> has anyone here gotten bitmap fonts to work on breezy? I installed some and ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig. and no dice...
[04:32] <ReleaseX> bimberi: when i use the seveas repo i get a 403 error
[04:33] <odie5533> Is there anyway to reformat a thumb drive?
[04:33] <ozzy_cow> can anyone please help me with fstab problem
[04:33] <bimberi> ReleaseX: hang on, i'll try from here
[04:33] <Hobbsee> ozzy_cow: probably, but not till you ask
[04:33] <intelikey> ozzy_cow what ya trying to do in fstab ?
[04:33] <ozzy_cow> I used the winmac utility in the wiki
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> I'm trying to mount the windows ntfs partition
[04:34] <crimsun> glick: (you're straying pretty far off topic in -devel)
[04:34] <Hobbsee> ozzy_cow: post your /etc/fstab to the pastebin?
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> this is the entry /dev/hdc5 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdc5) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:34] <ozzy_cow> but the partition is not writable
[04:35] <x_or> intellikey:  I am trying your suggestion.  I don't understand the difference btw bios bootstrap booting, and boot loader issues.  It seems that it gets into grub, but then gives error 18.
[04:35] <odie5533> How do I format a thumb/flash drive?
[04:35] <bimberi> ReleaseX: hm, downloading the deb starts ok for me - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[04:35] <carlosqueso> question....does ubuntu have the required kernel source to compile a driver?
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, you want it to be writable ?
[04:35] <ozzy_cow> yes i do :-)
[04:35] <carlosqueso> or what package do I need to get it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, you know its dagerous to write in ntfs ?
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> it is?
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> yes ...
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> !ntfs
[04:36] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:36] <flocrypt> crimsun: hi, I have pasted those outputs...
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> im not going to boot it in the windows ever
[04:36] <crimsun> flocrypt: k
[04:36] <ozzy_cow> i dont have enough disk space to convert it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, i recommend not writing in ntfs partitions ... others might disagree though
[04:37] <iiiears> Hi crimsun, cafuego. :)
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> anyway you mounted as ro .. which means read only
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> if you want it to be writable ... change it to rw ... read write
[04:37] <ozzy_cow> oh... well the wiki is incorrect then
[04:37] <MattKrass> hey everyone
[04:37] <MattKrass> weird problem
[04:37] <iiiears> Hi wickedpuppy :)
[04:37] <MattKrass> I have a computer, old, I dont know hte exact specs on it
[04:37] <ozzy_cow> let me try that
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> yoz iiiears  :P
[04:38] <MattKrass> any ubuntu CD fails to install with corrupt file errors, whereas slack discs work fine
[04:38] <MattKrass> so do mandriva
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> so... um, how do i remount / to ext2? My hdd is making constant intermittent activity and i suspect it to be from ext3
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> ozzy_cow, thats my opinion anyway ... i usually use fat32 as my buffer between win and lin if i dual boot
[04:38] <MattKrass> but not ubuntu
[04:38] <MattKrass> the ubuntu discs work in every other comuter itn the room
[04:38] <MattKrass> and we swapped out the drive twice
[04:39] <iiiears> MatKrass - if you have linux installed lspci in a terminal will tell you a lot about it.  - if it is windows d/l the free util "everest" system monitor
[04:39] <MattKrass> but what could be causing such a problem?
[04:39] <x_or> Hobbsee/intellikey:  Is there a way to just rewrite the MBR using fdisk and make sure it is updated properly?  I could attempt a reboot and see if that helps.  The failing drive is plugged in as a slave onto the proper system, so I can run an MBR command from there.
[04:39] <flocrypt> crimsun: what does "k" mean (-:
[04:39] <Hobbsee> !tell x_or about reinstallgrub
[04:39] <Hobbsee> x_or: see the pm
[04:40] <intelikey> x_or linux mbr is written by lilo or grub-install  windows fat type mbr is written by ms "fdisk /mbr"
[04:41] <crimsun> flocrypt: it means "ok" -- I'm looking at it
[04:41] <WinZ> Does anybody know some gedit plugin for editing files on ftp-server and saving "directly" to server?
[04:41] <odie5533> Is there anyway to reformat a thumb drive on linux?
[04:41] <crimsun> flocrypt: please attach the contents of /proc/asound/card0/cmipci
[04:41] <sbalneav> odie5533: yes
[04:42] <x_or> odie5533:  "mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1"  You can format like any other drive.
[04:42] <grodius> guys how do i artificially mount an ISO so I dont have to burn it (like alcohol 120 for windows)
[04:42] <odie5533> can I format it to ext3? how stable is vfat?
[04:42] <Tido> on the gui file management, how do I sudo?
[04:42] <sbalneav> odie5533: Do you want it to work on windows as well?
[04:42] <titanium> i'm having some trouble getting 'sendmail' to work on my ubuntu system. i've been reading some docs on postfix but it seems like it 'comes configured'. i would assume i need to set it up to use my ISP's smtp server though. could anyone give me a hand?
[04:42] <odie5533> Not really. Linux is fine, but I'd prefer ext3. How would I do ext3?
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> odie5533: or fdisk /dev/sda then make a fat partition and a linux partition, that way you can use it one an outside windows machine
[04:42] <x_or> odie5533: vfat is totally stable.
[04:42] <intelikey> btw x_or if you have grub on hda's mbr and run ms's fdisk /mbr  from anywhere it will over write the grub on hda.
[04:43] <odie5533> then whats the benefit of ext2/3 over vfat?
[04:43] <x_or> intellikey:  I don't have windows on either of these machines.
[04:43] <Hobbsee> x_or: then follow the PM that ubotu sent you, that explains how to do it from linux
[04:43] <intelikey> then why are you playing with mbr's x_or
[04:43] <sbalneav> odie5533: ext2/3 aloow for real file permissions/ownership
[04:43] <madsen> What's the trick to getting Beagle to search in pdfs?
[04:44] <x_or> intellikey:  because I don't know what i am doing?  :)
[04:44] <intelikey> :)  oh
[04:44] <madsen> It works fine on my Agnula/Debian, but on ubuntu it doesn't. :(
[04:44] <odie5533> sbalneav: How do I format it for ext3 and how would I format it for vfat?
[04:45] <intelikey> ok you have linux on two diferent disks and want grub to boot either install x_or ?    is that correct ?
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> odie5533, mkfs.vfat /dev/sda
[04:45] <grodius> How do I mount an ISO so I can play it, without burning it
[04:45] <madsen> odie5533: mkfs.ext3 /dev/<partition> for ext3, mkfs.vfat /dev/<partition> for vfat.
[04:45] <madsen> grodius: mount -t iso9660 -o loop <mount point> <iso image>
[04:45] <intelikey> grodius "mount -o loop <file.iso> /mount.point "
[04:46] <sbalneav> odie5533: Assuming the device is /dev/sda, then sudo /sbin/mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1, or sudo /sbin/mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:46] <crimsun> flocrypt: apologies, but I have to scoot. I'll be back in an hour.
[04:46] <intelikey> type is not needed but doesn't hurt anything.
[04:46] <x_or> intellikey:  No, I have two (what I think to be, but must not be) identical installations of ubuntu.  One won't boot, the other will.  I assume when I installed I had the CD rom plugged in differently, or jumpers backwards, so it did something weird, like menu.lst point to wrong drive, but this is not the case, so I was just speculating that MBR was bad.
[04:46] <obk> how do i configure and use my wireless pcmcia card on my laptop in ubuntu
[04:46] <madsen> intelikey: true
[04:46] <obk> any help pls
[04:47] <carlosqueso> hey folks...quick question...where are kernel sources required to build NIC drivers
[04:47] <flocrypt> crimson: ok thank you so far...
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> obk, what kind of card?
[04:47] <madsen> grodius: And yeah, switch <mount point> and <iso> like intelikey said. :)
[04:47] <sizzam> if i switch from evolution to thunderbird, do i still need spamassassin?
[04:47] <obk> its a dlink 54g
[04:47] <flocrypt> by everyone....
[04:47] <madsen> sizzam: You never _need_ spamassassin...
[04:48] <madsen> sizzam: I don't have it for either, it's running on my mail server.
[04:48] <grodius> intelikey for mount point do i choose anything? like what
[04:48] <sizzam> let me rephrase:  does thunderbird use spamassassin for its spam filtering by default
[04:48] <gnomefreak> can you even set up spamassassin in thunderbird?
[04:48] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[04:48] <carlosqueso>  tbird has it's own spam system
[04:48] <hobbz> it has a filter sizzam
[04:48] <Discipulus> sizzam, no, spamassassin is to be used with a POP3 server
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hi z3r0x
[04:48] <intelikey> gordius any dir
[04:48] <z3r0x> I have a problem installing skype
[04:48] <Discipulus> sizzam, it has it's own filter
[04:48] <madsen> grodius: Make some dir in e.g. /mnt or /media - like /mnt/loop
[04:48] <sizzam> thanks
[04:48] <odie5533> If a file on an ext3 partition is given an owner, is there anyway of gaining access to read that file without knowing the correct un and pw of the owner?
[04:49] <grodius> whats the create folder command again madsen
[04:49] <z3r0x> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
[04:49] <z3r0x>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[04:49] <z3r0x>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[04:49] <tritium> grodius, mkdir
[04:49] <grodius> thx
[04:49] <madsen> odie5533: 'root'
[04:49] <obk> pppoe_dude, in my network settings , connections it says wlano is active but i can't connect thru it
[04:49] <sizzam> is there a better command to use to completely remove an application other than apt-get remove
[04:49] <madsen> odie5533: Why would you want to do that actually?
[04:49] <intelikey> be careful gordius mounting a fs over a dir with files makes the files in the dir unreachable as long as the fs is mounted there.
[04:49] <sizzam> i always feel like a lot of turds get left behind when i apt-get remove
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... did u select the right access point?
[04:49] <hobbz> modprobe show alot of ko files.  and under file systems it has lots of file systems I dont use
[04:49] <hobbz> how do I remove these other ko files
[04:49] <tritium> sizzam, use the --purge option then
[04:49] <odie5533> madsen: I am just wondering if its possible to retrieve it, how secrure ownership is
[04:49] <madsen> sizzam: 'apt-get remove --purge <app>' (removes conf files as well).
[04:49] <obk> pppoe_dude, i am not sur abt it can u guide me pls
[04:50] <obk> sure*
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, do "wlist scanning" and see what it gives you
[04:50] <madsen> odie5533: Well, root can read/write anything - others usually can't (unless they're allowed to).
[04:50] <tomfitzyuk> Which config file do I have to change to enable 32-bit emulation? I'm trying to run cube on a 64-bit processor and it says my processor doesn't have a supported cube client.
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, if it gives you a lot of stuff then ull be able to get it to work easilu
[04:50] <intelikey> hobbz rmmod maybe
[04:50] <sizzam> thanks all
[04:50] <odie5533> madsen: Is there anyway for a non 'root' user to gain access to files they aren't supposed to have access to?
[04:51] <madsen> odie5533: If the permissions are: 600, then the owner may read/write and everyone else may do nothing. If it's 660, then the owner and the group of the file may read/write.
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist*
[04:51] <andrew_> hallo
[04:52] <madsen> odie5533: Well, technically, yes, but practically, no. Then you'd be dealing with some badass cr4x0r. :)
[04:52] <hobbz> I think I should rephrase. I used to boot up in reiserfs and no error messages.
[04:52] <hobbz> now when I boot up I get "ext file system not found" then it does some vfs stuf
[04:52] <madsen> No one knows how to make beagle search in PDFs?
[04:52] <hobbz> then it find reiser.  Any idea why this is happening.
[04:52] <obk> wlist scanning it says cmd not found
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist scanning
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> sorry
[04:53] <obk> i did iwlist i got a long list
[04:53] <geargolem> hello, how can I mount an hd2 if my /etc/fstab doesn't show it?
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... are you connecting from an access point?
[04:53] <madsen> obk: actually, it's 'iwlist <device> scanning' I think...
[04:53] <sirmixalot> ubuntu is still running extremely slow
[04:53] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about mount
[04:53] <Antioch> Does anyone know if there is a config you can put in xorg.conf that sets the frequency?
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> madsen you can do iwlist scanning and it scans all of the
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> m
[04:53] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about windowsdrives
[04:53] <sirmixalot> its like my computer was purchased in the 70's
[04:54] <tritium> Antioch, frequency of what?
[04:54] <madsen> pppoe_dude: Oh, ok. I wasn't aware of that. Cool! :)
[04:54] <Antioch> frequency the monitor should run it
[04:54] <Antioch> Like, when you change your res in gnome it also lets you set the frequency
[04:54] <obk> i got lo , eth0, wlan0, sit0 for iwlist scanning
[04:54] <geargolem> Hobbsee, thanks!
[04:54] <e-sin> i just installed the two laptop-oriented applets from universe listed in this post: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/51 but they do not show up in the add applet dialog, though several other applets i installed at the same time did.  its kind of odd because its only the ones that they mentioned that i cant see
[04:54] <e-sin> ideas?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> geargolem: no problems
[04:54] <tritium> Antioch, HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[04:54] <obk> i got lo , eth0, wlan0, sit0 for iwlist scanning pppoe_dude
[04:54] <intelikey> nice i broke apt     :)
[04:54] <Antioch> tritium, I suppose those would be it...
[04:55] <iiiears> Is "make menuconfig" what i need to load "radio" in   /dev  so it becomes   /dev/radio?
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> wlan0 anything under wlan0? did it find any accesspoints?
[04:55] <tritium> Antioch, you can put those in the Monitor section
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> obk lol
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> my god... this MPC DVD drive is going to die before ubuntu boots...
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> ack
[04:55] <obk> pppoe_dude, it says no scan results
[04:55] <intelikey> yeah that's right i installed ubuntu again,   it may last the day...... prolly not.
[04:55] <obk> under wlan0
[04:55] <Antioch> I put vertrefresh in once and xorg compained when I tried to boot up.. whats the proper format of the numbers that follow them?
[04:55] <pppoe_dude> obk, is it turned on?
[04:56] <tritium> Antioch, man xorg.conf
[04:56] <Antioch>
[04:56] <madsen> Beagle. Searcing in PDFs. How?
[04:56] <obk> yup it says the interface wlan0 is active in network connections
[04:56] <tritium> madsen, bribe with a dog biscuit?
[04:56] <Sean899> Newbie question but - What is the location of the desktop? For command purposes
[04:56] <ReleaseX> are the gdesklets-data fixed in breezy?
[04:56] <tritium> Sean89, ~/Desktop
[04:57] <madsen> tritium: No use, I tried giving him popplers (libpoppler) - didn't really work as expected. :-/
[04:57] <tritium> :(
[04:57] <ozzy_cow> hi, i changed my fstab and rebooted the computer but I'm still not able to write into ntfs
[04:57] <Alien|Freak> just a quick question..
[04:57] <tritium> ozzy_cow, that's a very risky thing to do
[04:57] <Alien|Freak> how do I install wpa_supplicant in ubuntu?
[04:57] <grodius> How do I change my resolution if system-prefs-screen resolutions doesnt have it?
[04:57] <e-sin> i didnt think you could write on ntfs period?
[04:58] <tritium> Alien|Freak, sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:58] <Alien|Freak> unless i'm not spelling it right.. apt-get install wpa_supplicant doesn't seem to want to work
[04:58] <robotgeek> grodius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <Alien|Freak> ah.. no _  thx tritium
[04:58] <Sean899> So how can I "cd desktop"?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> e-sin: there are a couple of programs that let you, but are known to occasoinally screw up the drives
[04:58] <tritium> Alien|Freak, apt-cache search supplicant would have found it
[04:58] <sirmixalot> does the sixth percent on insatlling ubuntu always take alot of time?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> Sean899: type it in a terminal
[04:58] <pppoe_dude> obk, no power switch on it? coz if there is an access point, it would either tell you "Cell 0...etc..." or "interface doesnt support scanning" if it didnt recognize your card
[04:58] <tritium> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <e-sin> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <WinZ> Sean899, cd ~/Desktop
[04:58] <ozzy_cow> tritium: ive accessed ntfs on my gentoo recovery cd countles times without a problem
[04:58] <madsen> Sean899: cd ~/Desktop
[04:59] <WinZ> ))
[04:59] <e-sin> or cd /home/Sean(oryourusername)/Desktop
[04:59] <ozzy_cow> is this ubutnu specific problem?
[04:59] <robotgeek> Alien|Freak: try a sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> can't find package..
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> even without the _
[04:59] <tritium> !info wpasupplicant
[04:59] <obk> pppoe_dude, it is working when i use it in my  windows
[04:59] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 149 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[04:59] <tritium> gotta go...
[04:59] <madsen> Alien|Freak: Got universe enabled?
[04:59] <Alien|Freak> E: Couldn't find package wpasupplicant
[04:59] <robotgeek> Alien|Freak: so, do u have the universe repository enabled?
[04:59] <Antioch> tritium, is there also a config for the dot clock frequency?
[04:59] <pppoe_dude> obk, k gimme a sec
[04:59] <geargolem> Hobbsee, mounted. :)  But instead of files I see 'lost+found'??
[04:59] <obk> k
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> probably not.. new install. i'm really new at Debian's admin system
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> how do I enable universe?
[05:00] <ozzy_cow> any idea why I can't write to the ntfs partition?
[05:00] <robotgeek> !tell Alien|Freak about repos
[05:00] <madsen> !tell Alien|Freak about repos
[05:00] <Hobbsee> !tell ozzy_cow about ntfs
[05:00] <Alien|Freak> ozzy_cow, you shouldn't be able to..
[05:00] <Madpilot> ozzy_cow: NTFS  is read-only
[05:00] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[05:00] <grodius> robotgeek what if the list it gives me to select still doesnt have my resolution
[05:00] <e-sin> ozzy_cow, you can convert it to FAT
[05:00] <ozzy_cow> there is no way to write to it? i have done it before in gentoo, it just worked
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> I just installed ubuntu howevers
[05:01] <grodius> 1300X768 widescreen is what im looking for robotgeek
[05:01] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to change the background color or background with openbox?
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> I am not able to get into root
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> account
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> Coz I dunno the password
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> help
[05:01] <e-sin> linuxgeek2, it's disabled by default
[05:01] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: there is no root in Ubuntu, use sudo instead
[05:01] <madsen> linuxgeek2: You don't, use 'sudo'.
[05:01] <ozzy_cow> can i convert it to ext3 or something like that?
[05:01] <Madpilot> !tell linuxgeek2 about root
[05:01] <robotgeek> grodius: put in in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but make sure you make a backup first
[05:01] <intelikey> Madpilot you lie.
[05:01] <pppoe_dude> obk, whats the model number? is it a G650?
[05:01] <geargolem> I mounted a second hd but my files show up as 'lost+found'.  How do I set permission to the new directory?
[05:01] <intelikey> there is root.
[05:01] <e-sin> ozzy_cow, im pretty sure not
[05:01] <Alien|Freak> write access on ntfs is "experimental" at best
[05:01] <linuxgeek2> and one more thing
[05:01] <intelikey> only the passwd may not be set.
[05:02] <Madpilot> intelikey: no, I'm just simplifying things...
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> is I have a compaq presario laptop with bg 2200 wireless card
[05:02] <Baldev> Anyone want to help me with my problem..
[05:02] <grodius> robotgeek how to i backup
[05:02] <obk> pppoe_dude, g650+
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> it is detected but I am not able to set it up
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> plz help me
[05:02] <Baldev> When I boot into ubuntu
[05:02] <obk> dwl-g650+
[05:02] <linuxgeek2> I am new to ubuntu
[05:02] <robotgeek> grodius: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:02] <Baldev> I get a gray screen with lines.. and a cursor which is a grey X....
[05:02] <intelikey> to set root passwd "sudo passwd "   when it asks for your passwd type your user account password in and then set the root passwd.
[05:02] <tristanmike> cd
[05:03] <geargolem> ! tell geargolem about permissions
[05:03] <ubotu> geargolem: Not a clue
[05:04] <Hobbsee> !tell geargolem about chmod
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> obk, try "apt-get install hostapd" and see what happens...
[05:04] <e-sin> Baldev, it doesnt go any further than that?
[05:04] <obk> k
[05:04] <federico_> Why are my chances of buying an optical USB mouse and have it working on Breezy?
[05:04] <pppoe_dude> obk, make sure you do ifdown wlan0, ifup wlan0
[05:05] <Madpilot> federico_: probably very good. My MS optical USB mouse runs perfectly
[05:05] <federico_> I mean "what are"
[05:05] <robotgeek> Baldev: can u restart the machine and see if the same issue comes up? That apparently solved the issue for one user
[05:05] <natex> federico_, chances are good
[05:05] <intelikey> i have never yet installed ubuntu without setting the root password while installing.
[05:05] <sirmixalot> does the sixth percent on insatlling ubuntu always take alot of time?
[05:05] <Baldev> Oh Iv'e restarted many times
[05:05] <Baldev> Actually
[05:05] <obk> pppoe_dude, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:05] <luis__> speaking of installing ubuntu :)
[05:05] <Baldev> It dosen't even boot into the "GUI" anymore
[05:05] <obk> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:05] <federico_> are there many different mouse protocols? should I stick to MS compatible?
[05:05] <luis__> is there any way to check the install media?
[05:05] <Sean899> Another  stupid question. I have a mount on my desktop but I want to move it to /mnt/ how can I go about doing this? Thanks alot guys!
[05:05] <Baldev> It just goes into the console
[05:05] <pppoe_dude> obk, as root or "sudo"
[05:05] <robotgeek> federico_: basic functionality of the mouse is virtually assured. the 'special' buttons may take some work
[05:06] <Baldev> I can open X
[05:06] <e-sin> federico_, all of my mice have always just worked in any linux i've used.  i think ur safe as long as it's fairly standard
[05:06] <Baldev> But then it does what I described before
[05:06] <intelikey> luis__ durring install yes.   select  expert install method and test the cd is an option
[05:06] <linuxgeek2> Plz help me
[05:06] <e-sin> Baldev, it just sits there/
[05:06] <linuxgeek2> If I give sudo passwd
[05:06] <Baldev> yea.. If I do ctrl+alt+bkspc
[05:06] <obk> pppoe_dude, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:06] <obk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:06] <Baldev> obk
[05:07] <Baldev> Close your terminal, or maybe synaptic
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname()
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname()
[05:07] <Baldev> well
[05:07] <bimberi> obk: close synaptic
[05:07] <linuxgeek2> it says "unable to lookup ash by gethostname() when I give sudo passwd
[05:07] <luis__> intelikey: thanks
[05:07] <obk> synaptic?
[05:07] <pppoe_dude> obk, do you have synaptic open? maybe update manager is doing something?
[05:07] <Baldev> Oh my
[05:07] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: with sudo, you don't use a root pw, you use your own user's pw
[05:07] <obk> ya updates going on
[05:07] <obk> ok i will close it
[05:07] <Baldev> You can really only use one method at a time.
[05:07] <bimberi> obk: no, wait for updates to finish
[05:07] <federico_> OK, I'll grab my wallet tomorow... Is there a tool to select the mosue type? In Fedora there was mouseconfig
[05:07] <e-sin> obk, anything dealing with packages has to be closed if you want to use something else to deal with them
[05:07] <Baldev> AFAIK.
[05:08] <obk> oh ok
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> so Madpilot u mean sudo <username> or sudo <passwd>
[05:08] <natex> anyone know of a way to have nautilus open a terminal at a current directory?
[05:08] <grodius> robotgeek how do i edit the .conf file
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> which one
[05:08] <grodius> robotgeek whats the command
[05:08] <Sean899> Another  stupid question. I have a mount on my desktop but I want to move it to /mnt/ how can I go about doing this? Thanks alot guys!
[05:08] <obk> it says 45 min more for updates shall  i close it , i can do it later
[05:08] <dtrizzle> Anybody, is there a way to skip cirtain start up task ubuntu automatically goes?
[05:08] <linuxgeek2> Guys plz help I am a new user and I have couple of problems with Ubuntu
[05:08] <Madpilot> linuxgeek2: if you read that URL that ubotu sent you, it should answer most of your questoins
[05:08] <professor_chaos> why is ubuntu overwriting my DNS addresses??
[05:08] <robotgeek> you would edit in gedit, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:09] <pppoe_dude> obk, either way up to you :P
[05:09] <madsen> Sean899: Try 'df -h' and look if it isn't already mounted there...
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:09] <professor_chaos> if I change /etc/resolv.conf.... it changes back
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <linuxgeek2> can some one tell me the URL again
[05:09] <mustard5> linuxboy, it looks like your sudo is busted, I've seen threads in the forum regarding this
[05:09] <dtrizzle> whenever i boot up, ubuntu takes like 5 minutes because it looks for my previous wireless access point
[05:09] <dtrizzle> is there a way to make it skip looking for the network
[05:09] <e-sin> Sean899, if you edit /etc/fstab you can change the mount locations of your drives, as long as the directories you're mounting to already exist.
[05:09] <madsen> Sean899: The icons on the desktop are usually just references to the device.
[05:09] <Madpilot> !tell linuxgeek2 about root
[05:09] <obk> k i closed it and tried
[05:09] <bimberi> obk: sure you can
[05:09] <obk> pppoe_dude, Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <obk> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:09] <obk> E: Couldn't find package hostapd
[05:10] <mustard5> doh wrong person
[05:10] <iiiears> fedrico, - there are two ways i think - edit XORG.CONF or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (clumsy becaUSE YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR DISPLAY AND VIDEO CARD)
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> obk, do an apt-get update
[05:10] <mustard5> linuxboy, ignore that wrong person
[05:10] <pppoe_dude> "sudo
[05:10] <iiiears> ERM - APOLOGIES FOR CAPS...
[05:10] <obk> done update
[05:10] <iiiears> nvm - a nap is needed - lol
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> obk then try it
[05:11] <grodius> robotgeek i'm afraid i dont understand still, after opening with gedit Its blank, how would i add the ability to run 1300x768 res
[05:11] <pppoe_dude> obk, oh wait... did you just install ubuntu?
[05:11] <dtrizzle> hi all, i'm a new ubuntu user...how can i make ubuntu skip looking for an access point at boot up?
[05:11] <dtrizzle> it takes 5 minutes or so because it looks for my old access point
[05:11] <dtrizzle> is there a way to skip this process?
[05:11] <obk> well  a week back but didnt used it till now
[05:11] <intelikey> ok i've had it with this junk..... time to reinstall a real system.
[05:12] <dtrizzle> anybody...?
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... make sure you uncomment the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list then do sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <professor_chaos> dtrizzle, you can comment out the part "auto ???" in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:12] <madsen> dtrizzle: Perhaps System -> Administration -> Services ? (I'm not sure.)
[05:12] <madsen> dtrizzle: Yeah, listen to professor_chaos. :)
[05:12] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything starting with "deb"
[05:12] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, read this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72586&highlight=unable+lookup+gethostname%28%29
[05:12] <dtrizzle> ok, i'll give that i try
[05:12] <bimberi> dtrizzle: i vote for commenting out auto's in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:13] <dtrizzle> if i do that, will i still be able to activate my wireless network after boot up?
[05:13] <bimberi> dtrizzle: yes
[05:13] <dtrizzle> ok ok, thank you all
[05:13] <dtrizzle> imma try now
[05:13] <dtrizzle> im brand new to ubuntu and just wanted to say the the community is really great
[05:13] <e-sin> dtrizzle, best part about it, init?
[05:14] <mega> anything here from brazil?!
[05:14] <bimberi> dtrizzle: onya!
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> obk, i can send you the deb package if you want
[05:14] <lancer285> hey guys, is there a way to make certain windows frameless??
[05:14] <dtrizzle> yeah, it really is
[05:14] <obk> pppoe_dude, i opened sources.list and i can see some deb lines are commented but cant edit that file
[05:14] <obk> sure pls pppoe_dude
[05:14] <pppoe_dude> obk, k you have to do it as root or sudo if you want to edit it. but i'll send you the file
[05:14] <madsen> obk: How did you open it?
[05:14] <lancer285> obk did you run sudo ?
[05:14] <mustard5> lancer285, I have read some 'hack' where you can make a terminal window with no borders and transparent background
[05:14] <lsald> obk, you need to sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <sirmixalot> i can not even get ubuntu to install
[05:15] <mega> anybody here from brazil?!
[05:15] <propagandhi> what compiler do you use to compile C code
[05:15] <madsen> lancer285: You can do it with fluxbox - but I don't think metacity can.
[05:15] <madsen> !br
[05:15] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[05:15] <lancer285> mustard5, I was thinking like KDE where you could select 'no frame' on any given window. can't do that in gnome?
[05:15] <lsald> propagandhi, gcc
[05:15] <mustard5> lancer285, don't know really
[05:15] <lancer285> mustard5, okay thanks (:
[05:15] <pppoe_dude> obk, now do a dpkg -i hostapd_1%3a0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[05:15] <grodius> Can anyone help me change my resultion the autoconfig doesnt have the correct resolution
[05:15] <madsen> lancer285: Not in gnome with metacity as the window manager.
[05:16] <GnarlyBob> Note: ubuntu-users mailing list appears to be hosed
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> obk, as sudo
[05:16] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, did you get my message earlier?  You didnt reply
[05:16] <GnarlyBob> receiving massive numbers from "Ubuntu China"
[05:16] <skreet> Is it no longer possible to download Kubuntu by using synaptic from a Ubuntu installation?
[05:16] <MrCroup> lancer285: if you use enlightenment as your window manager you can do it with eterm for the terminal
[05:16] <skreet> I dont seem to have kubuntu packages available.
[05:16] <pppoe_dude> skreet did u try kubuntu-desktop?
[05:16] <Xenguy> grodius: try reducing colours (worked for me)
[05:16] <lancer285> MrCroup, okay
[05:16] <mustard5> skreet, I would think it is possible still
[05:16] <skreet> pppoe_dude, I did a search in Synaptic for kubuntu
[05:16] <bimberi> sirmixalot: you might have a bad CD?
[05:16] <lsald> !tell skreet KDE
[05:16] <Xenguy> grodius: (if that is your issue)
[05:17] <bimberi> skreet: i can see kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <skreet> bimberi, Hm, let me check my repos.
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> skreet do you have repos set up?
[05:17] <lsald> yea, that's it
[05:17] <grodius> xenguy reducing colors? My issue is that my resolution is too low, and when i do the autoconfig it doesnt find a resolution thats good either
[05:17] <GnarlyBob> or not... it stopped
[05:17] <MrCroup> lancer285: the gnome terminal can be transparent but the window manager controls the frame
[05:17] <robitaille> GnarlyBob,  yeah, it seems somene subscribed<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to the Ubuntu list, and send the emails to the list...
[05:17] <skreet> pppoe_dude, Shit, i'm an idiot. I'm still using CD Repos only... lol
[05:17] <pppoe_dude> skreet lol
[05:18] <pppoe_dude> skreet usually the case
[05:18] <lancer285> MrCroup, okay. I was hoping that I could have some games windowed, but w/o frames. I did it w/ kde, but I guess I'll live w/o it. Is there a way to tell gnome to remember the position of windows?
[05:18] <RancidLM> hey all
[05:18] <GnarlyBob> robitaille: was trying to head off what could have been an ugly little loop
[05:18] <skreet> pppoe_dude, Are you saying it's usually the case that people forget their repos, or it's usually the case that I'm an idiot? :)
[05:18] <pppoe_dude> skreet obviously the repo part
[05:18] <Xenguy> skreet: careful :-)
[05:18] <MrCroup> lancer285: xinitrc is the old school way to do it
[05:19] <mustard5> lancer285, I was under the impression it did that automatically
[05:19] <skreet> Xenguy, ?
[05:19] <madsen> Arg! Ffs! Why doesn't beagle just index my pdfs?!? It does on Agnula/Debian...
[05:19] <sirmixalot> has any one ever had problems installing the base system??
[05:19] <professor_chaos> lancer285, I took me a minute to find it, but heres the way.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938
[05:19] <lancer285> mustard5, I always have to move the window up so I don't see the fram.
[05:19] <madsen> sirmixalot: What's your problem?
[05:19] <Xenguy> MrCroup: what is the real difference between ~/.xinitrc and ~/.session ?
[05:19] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything?
[05:19] <Xenguy> skreet: press delete :-)
[05:19] <obk> no
[05:19] <sirmixalot> at six percent it just slows down
[05:19] <RancidLM> im hatin the current distro on my laptop.. its a big named distro and had Bootdisks..  my laptop has a broken cdrom and i have to use a external USB one.. is there any boot floopy's that i can use to load ubuntu installer and have it install off my usb cdr ?
[05:20] <sirmixalot> then it quits on a couple files
[05:20] <mustard5> lancer285, hmm k...gnome seems to remember position and size on mine..maybe I just haven't noticed it doesnt yet :D
[05:20] <sirmixalot> i downloaded it off of the ubuntu site
[05:20] <MrCroup> Xenguy: got me, tweaking X isn't really my thing
[05:20] <grodius> how do i change my resolution? Can anyone help?
[05:20] <madsen> sirmixalot: Hmm, what files and does it say why?
[05:20] <sirmixalot> 5.10
[05:20] <freddy> hello
[05:20] <spy> Hi
[05:20] <lancer285> professor_chaos, thanks, I'll take a look at that
[05:20] <robotgeek_away> grodius: gimme a min
[05:20] <grodius> k
[05:20] <sirmixalot> uhmm i dont remember specifically
[05:20] <pppoe_dude> obk, did it install? this is all i can think of...
[05:20] <Xenguy> MrCroup: OK, I was responding to your comment about 'old school', is all
[05:20] <freddy> i dont get it...is ubuntu hoary spose to have a burning appl by default? i cant seem to find it
[05:20] <RancidLM> so ya.. any bootfloppy's for ubuntu?
[05:21] <mustard5> freddy, usually when you put in a blank it opens up a directory for burning
[05:21] <MrCroup> Xenguy: its just how I did it with Solaris a very long time ago
[05:21] <bimberi> freddy: nautilus (the file manager) can burn data cd's and isos
[05:21] <Sean899> Madsen: Can you please give me a command that work with the livecd that allows you to mount network folders?
[05:21] <freddy> mustard5, yeah, i saw that but i was thinking if that was like the windows xp one, and i wanted to see if there was something more reliable like easy cd creator like program
[05:22] <madsen> Sean899: samba folders?
[05:22] <Sean899> yes
[05:22] <Xenguy> MrCroup: nod - I ask only because I still don't understand that real difference between those 2 files, other than ~/.xsession seems to be the preferred method these days
[05:22] <obk> pppoe_dude, Selecting previously deselected package hostapd.
[05:22] <mustard5> freddy, there are a number of other burners available through synaptic
[05:22] <obk> (Reading database ... 60718 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:22] <obk> Unpacking hostapd (from hostapd_1%3a0.4.2-1_i386.deb) ...
[05:22] <obk> Setting up hostapd (0.4.2-1) ...
[05:22] <obk> Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management: disabled via /etc/default/hostapd
[05:22] <umif> pagi say.....
[05:22] <mustard5> no pasting in main channel obk :)
[05:22] <freddy> mustard5, oh cool, recommendation?
[05:22] <professor_chaos> freddy, what do you mean by reliable
[05:22] <obk> k sorry
[05:22] <mustard5> freddy, me thinks....
[05:22] <lsald> grodius, you can change the res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <pppoe_dude> obk coo... so it installed
[05:22] <MrCroup> Xenguy: I'm sure there's a really good explanation as to why they are different but I don't know it
[05:23] <madsen> Sean899: smbmount <share e.g. //server/share> <mount point> -o username=<username>
[05:23] <bimberi> freddy: nothing else by default, but you can install gnomebaker (or graveman or k3b)
[05:23] <mustard5> freddy, gnomebaker?
[05:23] <spy> For Repositories should all the (Universe) check box's be c hecked or only a few ?
[05:23] <obk> pppoe_dude, wat will be next
[05:23] <robotgeek> grodius: 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:23] <Xenguy> MrCroup: time for a google session me thinks :-)
[05:23] <madsen> Sean899: You might have to stick "sudo" in front of it depending on the mount point (I think).
[05:23] <pppoe_dude> now try sudo iwlist scanning
[05:23] <spy> Im tryin to install a media playrr to mp3's?
[05:23] <freddy> professor_chaos, oh like something more trusteable
[05:23] <umif> bbbbbbbbbb
[05:23] <freddy> sorry english is not my first language
[05:23] <freddy> mustard5, gonna try that then
[05:24] <mustard5> freddy, good luck :)
[05:24] <Sean899> Madsen: The problem is that smbmount does not work with the livecd
[05:24] <professor_chaos> freddy, no, you used the right word, its just that I think nautilus burns fine for data cds and dvd.
[05:24] <robotgeek> grodius: there's a list of things to do in this wiki article, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <obk> pppoe_dude, i pasted the msg in ur pm
[05:24] <freddy> professor_chaos, oh, cool
[05:24] <spy> For Repositories should all the (Universe) check box's be c hecked or only a few ?
[05:24] <spy> Im tryin to install a media playrr to mp3's?
[05:24] <sirmixalot> madsen i was reading a froum and that the problem might be the dvd drive
[05:24] <pppoe_dude> obk i didnt get a pm
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> obk, dcc me
[05:25] <sirmixalot> i will try to install on the cdrw drive
[05:25] <professor_chaos> freddy, but gnomebaker and k3b are what I use most often.
[05:25] <madsen> Sean899: Hmm, what about nautilus? It should have an option to connect to a network share... Places -> Connect to Server...
[05:25] <sirmixalot> if i can get it to but from that
[05:25] <sirmixalot> boot
[05:25] <freddy> im having problems trying to install gnomebaker
[05:25] <madsen> sirmixalot: Hmm, ok. Well, good luck then! :)
[05:25] <bimberi> spy: rhythmbox is already installed and will play mp3s after you follow the instructions under Codecs here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:25] <freddy> hrmm
[05:25] <mustard5> ubotu: tell spy about mp3
[05:25] <spy> ok
[05:25] <freddy> im getting a LOT of unmet dependecies
[05:25] <robotgeek> grodius: got that link?
[05:25] <mustard5> freddy, enable extra repositories
[05:25] <pppoe_dude> obk, is it a different message? does it hace a CELL in it?
[05:25] <sirmixalot> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be more user friendly i has no problem with redhat 7 years ago
[05:26] <professor_chaos> freddy, how are you installing?
[05:26] <obk> k the msg as before for iwlist scanning pppoe_dude
[05:26] <mustard5> ubotu: tell freddy about repositories
[05:26] <obk> no same as before
[05:26] <Sean899> Madsen: No it just allow Windows Shares
[05:26] <freddy> professor_chaos, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[05:26] <grodius> robotgeek not loading i don tknow why hold on
[05:26] <madsen> Sean899: Samba IS window shares-.
[05:26] <robotgeek> grodius: i gotta go now, i will be back later. sorry :(
[05:26] <sizzam> sirmixalot: in my opinion, the user community makes ubuntu the best distro,  with sites like ubuntuguide.org and ubuntuforums.org
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> obk, k... im out of ideas.. sorry :(, try taking it out then back in, see if it changes iwlist scanning
[05:27] <pppoe_dude> obk, after you put it back in, type "dmesg" and paste me the last line
[05:27] <professor_chaos> freddy, synaptic with resolve you dependencies for you, if you have the right repositories enabled.
[05:28] <[Spooky] > ubuntu-desktop is critical to have ?
[05:28] <madsen> [Spooky] : During upgrades, yes.
[05:28] !lilo:*! Well, inadvertently-major upgrade in process on http://freenode.net/ 8)
[05:28] <mustard5> [Spooky] , its a metapackage its ok to uninstall...just reinstall when you upgrade your distribution
[05:28] <obk> pppoe_dude, [4301979.554000]  acx_probe_pci: TI acx_pci.o: Ver 0.2.0pre8 loaded successfully
[05:29] <[Spooky] > mustard5: ok, i want to uninstall Totem...
[05:29] <[Spooky] > i will try...
[05:29] <pppoe_dude> obk, line before that too plz.
[05:29] <mustard5> [Spooky] , whats wrong with Totem?
[05:29] <mustard5> :)
[05:29] <obk> [4301979.554000]  creating /proc entry driver/acx_wlan0_phy
[05:30] <obk> i got 3 more lines related to wlan0
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> finally gained access into my root account. I am actually not able to get connected to my to my wireless internet My card is bg 2200 intel
[05:30] <[Spooky] > mustard5: well i never use it...
[05:30] <pppoe_dude> obk, anything erroneous looking?
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> on my compaq laptop
[05:30] <mustard5> [Spooky] , k :)
[05:30] <obk> no pppoe_dude
[05:30] <lamb> hi, do any of you can tell me how to install a dif splash screen in breezy?
[05:30] <linuxgeek2> however the card is detected
[05:30] <mustard5> ubotu: tell linuxgeek2 about wifi
[05:30] <pppoe_dude> obk, did you try iwlist scanning after replugging it?
[05:31] <obk> not yet just tried dmedg
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> try it
[05:31] <obk> mesg*
[05:31] <mustard5> ubotu: tell linuxgeek2 about wireless
[05:31] <obk> got diff msg
[05:31] <obk> now
[05:31] <pppoe_dude> any cells?
[05:31] <linuxgeek2> thanks mustard5
[05:31] <RancidLM> can i use debian boot floppy's to load the ubuntu installer off a USB external cdrom... i needa find  a way to install ubuntu some how on this system
[05:31] <Mabus01> hi mustard5
[05:31] <mustard5> np ;)
[05:31] <obk> no it says wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:31] <linuxgeek2> I love u guys ur very helpful
[05:31] <mustard5> come back if you have issues linuxgeek2
[05:32] <ubuntu> hey
[05:32] <ubuntu> gah
[05:32] <mustard5> hey Mabus01 :)
[05:32] <lamb> coudl someone help me change the splash screen in ubuntu please
[05:32] <pppoe_dude> obk.. hmm, weird... try sudo iwlist scanning
[05:32] <Modi|help> i need help with grub
[05:32] <mustard5> Mabus01, all going well on your install now?
[05:32] <obk> thast wat i did pppoe_dude
[05:32] <e-sin> RancidLM, no cd-rom?
[05:32] <Modi|help> i gotta remove the boot path entry
[05:33] <intelikey> RancidLM if you had another box there somewhere, you could pull the hd plug it into the other box, install and then put the drive back for the reboot.
[05:33] <pppoe_dude> obk, ok... out of ideas.... try a reboot? then try googling your model + ubuntu
[05:33] <Modi|help> i installed it but needed the hdd space,filled up my 80
[05:33] <pppoe_dude> obk, sorry man :(
[05:33] <e-sin> RancidLM, breezy supports network installs...i have no idea how to do it, but if you could use another computer you could do it over the network
[05:33] <RancidLM> e-sin: a broken cdrom on a laptop.. i have a external cdrom (usb) but i don't have a usb boot option..normaly with suse or mandrake i justed used like 7bootdisks.. or a net install boot disk.. but just looking for something like that for ubuntu
[05:33] <Mabus01> no mustard5
[05:33] <Mabus01> I cannot get the nvidia to work
[05:34] <obk> if i do without sudo it says wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:34] <obk>  pppoe_dude
[05:34] <sundae1888> hello all
[05:34] <Modi|help> so i formatted the 60 i have ubuntu installed on
[05:34] <sizzam> lamb:  check this howto out:   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[05:34] <Modi|help> BUT
[05:34] <WebLOCH> Anyone here specifically familiar with the Direct Connect Protocol and clients ?
[05:34] <mustard5> Mabus01, I am reading quite a number of threads on the forum with the same issue lately
[05:34] <Modi|help> grub i still in the boot path and errors out on me
[05:34] <Mabus01> I'm having no troubles using linux though, I'm on t right now
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> obk, it seems like something with the drives
[05:34] <mustard5> Mabus01, if you want to cruise over to ubuntuforums you might be able go see how others finally solve the issue
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> *drivers...
[05:34] <Mabus01> It's just the geforce.
[05:35] <sundae1888> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a Thinkpad 390E (P2-300 / 128MB), but I'm getting kernal panic
[05:35] <RancidLM> e-sin: does ubutnu have a ftp floppy installer.. ?
[05:35] <Xenguy> MrCroup: hrm, symlink from .xinitrc to .xsession appears to be a popular solution (but make .xsession executable also)
[05:35] <e-sin> not that i know of, but that doesn't mean no
[05:35] <Mabus01> I have googled extensively, mustard5... the people with the same problem as me never seen to come up with a solution.
[05:35] <intelikey> RancidLM one word "loadlin "    boot the install cd from your hd.
[05:35] <obk> no worries pppoe_dude . i will keep trying
[05:35] <obk> thx for ur patience
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> obk no prob, ill let you know if i think of something
[05:35] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, whats the problem?
[05:35] <obk> i wont sleep without making it work or i will never use ubuntu again
[05:35] <mustard5> Mabus01, yep...I was reading at least two threads in the forums today with people having same issue...I'm at a loss, because I am running nvidia card with no problems
[05:36] <YokoZar> Wine 0.9 package: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[05:36] <Xenguy> obk: the guantlet has been thrown down :-)
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> lol
[05:36] <Mabus01> professor_chaos: I cannot get linux to run using geforce
[05:36] <intelikey> RancidLM one word "loadlin.exe" google it.  and boot the install cd from your hd.
[05:36] <mustard5> Mabus01, you can be assured many minds are on the problem somewhere out there :)
[05:36] <RancidLM> intellikey: ill google it
[05:36] <sundae1888> anyone has the slightest idea of why i'd get kernel panic when booting x86 live & x86 install of breezy?
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> obk, blame the company who made the card, not ubuntu
[05:36] <YokoZar> sundae1888: do you have an x86?
[05:36] <YokoZar> hehe
[05:36] <YokoZar> And what kind of kernel panic?
[05:36] <obk> well its not that bad card
[05:37] <Modi|help> umm lil help
[05:37] <sundae1888> it's a p2-300 :P
[05:37] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, what problems/errors?
[05:37] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, what have you tried
[05:37] <Mabus01> Freezes at "starting hotplug subsystem"
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried installing nvidia from synaptic.
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> how do I launch network admin
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried installing nvidia from the nvidia site.
[05:37] <e-sin> im off
[05:37] <Xenguy> Mabus01: hardware issue ?
[05:37] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, what keyboard set do you have?
[05:37] <e-sin> good luck everyone :)
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> I go to apllications -> system tools -> network tools
[05:37] <Mabus01> Tried not using a driver, and running it anyway.
[05:37] <intelikey> RancidLM also if you have any linux installed on the hd you could use lilo or grub to kickstart the cd  but i would have to do some diging to even begin to help with that.
[05:37] <Lord> when a set the password root in ubuntu 5.10???
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> is that the one
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> obk, but the way i look at it, if they dont put the effort into making it work seamlessly on linux, then its crappy... some companies like that are: microsoft, cannon, sony
[05:37] <Mabus01> I don't know, webloch
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> how do I launch network admin
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I go to apllications -> system tools -> network tools
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> is that the one
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:38] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, I have the same problem installing breezy preview
[05:38] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, yes
[05:38] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, what you trying to install
[05:38] <obk> hehe pppoe_dude
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> thanks mustard5
[05:38] <Lord> Hey...
[05:38] <Mabus01> A GeForce FX 5500
[05:38] <Lord> How can i set the root password in ubuntu 2.10
[05:38] <Lord> ???
[05:38] <RancidLM> intelikey: thanks im just gonna see if i have a fat* partition on the laptop
[05:38] <RancidLM> :D
[05:38] <YokoZar> sundae1888: what kernel panic, in particular?  Unable to mount root filesystem?
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, its not the card thats causing the problem, hot plug refers to the usb stack as far as i know
[05:39] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Lord about RootSudo
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> obk, some actually make it puposely difficult for you to get it working... but staples and futureshop should have enough returns from me to figure that out
[05:39] <sundae1888> yokozar: <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[05:39] <Mabus01> works just fine without geforce though WebLOCH (I'm using it right now)
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, it kept crashing on that for me when i had my bluetooth usb kit plugged in, but worked fine when i took it out
[05:39] <WebLOCH> ahhh
[05:39] <intelikey> to set a root password "sudo sh "   and then set it like any other passwd.
[05:39] <iiiears> Mabus01 - Hi. :)   - the nVidia driver on their site is speediest (5-10 percent)   but for my money the simplicity of installing nvidia-glx with one click is much better.
[05:39] <yi> does ubuntu upgrade packages only once every 6month or do upgrades happen in the current stable tree?
[05:39] <WebLOCH> Mabus01, fair play buddy, not sure then
[05:39] <yi> (besides security fixes)
[05:39] <YokoZar> sundae1888: no idea, sorry :(
[05:39] <bimberi> yi: security and bugfixes happen all the time
[05:40] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, did you try uninstalling all nvidia drivers, killing gdm and installing drivers again?
[05:40] <Mabus01> Tried both, iiiears
[05:40] <iiiears> Mabus01 - nvidia-glx is in synaptic ;)
[05:40] <coolkev> i'm trying to download the breezy cd and it's downloading at 34 KB/s froma  canadian site
[05:40] <YokoZar> yi: sometimes things enter the backports repository, but other than that packages are frozen at release
[05:40] <grodius> how do i save when editing with nano
[05:40] <coolkev> the torrent had no seeds
[05:40] <Mabus01> I will if you tell me how professor_chaos
[05:40] <mahangu> grodius, CTRL+X
[05:40] <yi> YokoZar: hurmm
[05:40] <mustard5> iiiears, he's done that too
[05:40] <coolkev> are there any faster sites i can use?
[05:40] <YokoZar> yi: the exception was warty, which added some things to universe
[05:40] <mahangu> it asks you if you wanna save
[05:40] <sundae1888> who/where should i direct my question?
[05:40] <ksmurf> sundae just ask
[05:40] <grodius> mahangu thankya
[05:40] <YokoZar> sundae1888: best bet would be the forums, since few people know how to diagnose a kernel panic like that
[05:40] <intelikey> gordius look at the bottom of the nano
[05:41] <yi> YokoZar: so if breezy shipped with software 'x' at version y.z, x won't be updated to a newer release until dapper?
[05:41] <iiiears> Mabus01 - did you say you had a Geforce 5200 pci?
[05:41] <mustard5> iiiears, correct
[05:41] <mustard5> 5500
[05:41] <mustard5> not 5200
[05:41] <Mabus01> FX 5500, in the PCI
[05:41] <iiiears> wow it works perfectly for me.
[05:42] <ksmurf> is it possible to run x through an ssh session?
[05:42] <YokoZar> yi: pretty much.  You can install third party packages and things that are backported into the backports repository, though.  The wine package here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb that I made is an example of such a third party thing.
[05:42] <mustard5> iiiears, hehe I guess thats some reassurance for the future :)
[05:42] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, synaptic->uninstall everyting with the work nvidia in it.  Then press ctrl+alt+f1. Then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop". Then apt-get install all of those nvidia drivers.
[05:42] <iiiears> mustard -let's get this working.
[05:42] <yi> YokoZar: hurmm
[05:42] <bimberi> yi: yes, that's the policy, although one exception for hoary was firefox upgrades
[05:43] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, or if installing the drivers from nvidia.com, make sure you uninstall all nvidia stuff first before you do the install
[05:43] <YokoZar> yi: you can also install the dapper development packages (your own hack of a backport), though that might break things
[05:43] <mustard5> iiiears, he really needs help because I have seen Mabus01 try nearly every angle
[05:43] <Modi|help> ok now will somene plz help me?
[05:43] <WebLOCH> firefox! yuck
[05:43] <iiiears> mustard - no acceleration?
[05:43] <yi> i see, thanks for the explanations.
[05:43] <bimberi> yi: actually, i guess they were security updates too
[05:43] <yi> bimberi: right
[05:43] <yi> so, openoffice2 will not see the light in breezy?
[05:44] <bimberi> !0002
[05:44] <ubotu> Not a clue, bimberi
[05:44] <bimberi> !ooo2
[05:44] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[05:44] <mustard5> iiiears, my nvidia is working fine..its Mabus01's that is rooted :D
[05:44] <yi> that's rather cumbersome...especially sometimes for smaller packages like xqf
[05:44] <iiiears> Mabus01 - is it working with the nv driver?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u guys
[05:44] <yi> which have minimal impact on stability
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thatnks for all the help
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> muah
[05:44] <bimberi> yi: perhaps it will :)
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> sweet kisses to u guys
[05:44] <yi> but have big feature improvements
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u all
[05:44] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, so it worked?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thanks for all the help
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> yes mustard5
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> thatnks
[05:44] <mustard5> great :D
[05:44] <yi> bimberi: yeah, i saw that too actually, perhaps :)
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> I love u
[05:44] <mustard5> have fun linuxgeek2
[05:44] <Mabus01> mark for removal or for complete removal professor_chaos?
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> sure ubuntu rocks
[05:44] <linuxgeek2> for sure
[05:45] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, either
[05:45] <mustard5> Mabus01, complete removal takes out configuratin files so I would say yes?
[05:45] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, complete removal with remove conf files
[05:45] <Modi|help> GAHH!!
[05:46] <Mabus01> ok they're completely removed
[05:46] <professor_chaos> Mabus01, like if you want to lets say in the future, reinstall some software and keep all the preferences that you set up. Like mail preferences, etc.
[05:46] <intelikey> oh complete removal is --purge
[05:46] <iiiears> Mabus01 - double check the bus ID using     lspci   do those numbers match in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:46] <prg> Hi, can anyone answer this: If I download a .deb package, how can I install it and have it registered with synaptic for removal later if need be?
[05:47] <professor_chaos> either way the software is GONE! just whether you want configs kept for later on.
[05:47] <iiiears> Mabus01 - Are you running the nv, nvidia, or vesa driver now?
[05:47] <mustard5> prg, what .deb package and where did you get it from?
[05:47] <pppoe_dude> prg dpkg -i [package name]
[05:47] <intelikey> prg man dpkg
[05:47] <prg> mustard5: is is the wxmaxima front end to maxima.  not on any repo I have seen...
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> it's not going in
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> any idea
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> Hey I just restarted my laptop and my gnone is hanging
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> any idea
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> it's not going in
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> linuxgeek2 dont flood
[05:48] <mustard5> no repeating linuxgeek2
[05:48] <prg> all: so dpkg will link it with apt/synaptic (whichever)?
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> sorry
[05:48] <pppoe_dude> prg yes
[05:48] <obk> pppoe_dude, any specific settings in connections, properties that i shd do
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> what should I do ?
[05:48] <grodius> Guys how do you set up a widescreen resolution
[05:48] <prg> Thanks again..
[05:48] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Mine does that too and I don't know why, but if I wait for, like, 10 minutes, then it continues the login. (?)
[05:49] <iiiears> !xorg
[05:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> oh
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> madsen, what is the reason for that ?
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, in network-admin?
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> 10 Minutes is too long
[05:49] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, it is a long time :)
[05:49] <intelikey> [ctrl]  [alt]  [backspace]  resets X
[05:49] <Mabus01> iiears; I'm running he default driver
[05:49] <obk> ya in network settings
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> linuxgeek2 prolly a network related thing
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> okie
[05:49] <linuxgeek2> any fix for this guys
[05:49] <pppoe_dude> obk, obviusly the connection is enabled right?
[05:49] <Mabus01> I reverted to this backup when I made it so X wouldnt even load
[05:50] <linuxgeek2> yes
[05:50] <obk> yes
[05:50] <madsen> linuxgeek2: as I said, I don't know why...
[05:50] <obk> i can see the box checked
[05:50] <obk> and it say wlan0 is active
[05:50] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, when does it hang??
[05:50] <RancidLM> intelikey: hey .. i got a question... can i just extract the cd info to my /home/ dir and add  a grub option to run it?
[05:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, iwlist should show you any cells that the card can access, even if it was deactivated
[05:50] <obk> oh ok
[05:50] <Mabus01> iiiears: what did you mean about xserver-xorg
[05:50] <pppoe_dude> obk, do you see any thing under the dropdown box ESSID?
[05:51] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, after I enter my username and password the gui with the mouse pointer comes up and after that it seems like it hnagsd
[05:51] <CarlFK_> can I use growisofs on CDRs?
[05:51] <grodius> IM trying to find the 855resolution pack (as seen in the resolution walkthrough) and it cant be found
[05:51] <ksmurf> is there a way to run multipul x servers?
[05:51] <Mabus01> Reconfigure it so it matches the data for nVidia in the lspci?
[05:51] <intelikey> yeah that is possable RancidLM
[05:51] <sirmixalot> ubuntu 5.10 iso wont install
[05:51] <obk> pppoe_dude, nothing just blank
[05:51] <sirmixalot> i burned it with nero
[05:51] <mustard5> sirmixalot, can you elaborate?
[05:51] <ksmurf> sirmixalot..... did u md5 the burn?
[05:51] <RancidLM> intelikey: any idea on where to start? :S
[05:51] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, u there ?
[05:51] <pppoe_dude> obk, this is where your accesspoint would be if this was working :p
[05:52] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, do u have a fix for this ?
[05:52] <pppoe_dude> obk, 1 sec ill look someting up
[05:52] <mustard5> linuxgeek2, patience :)
[05:52] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, yes, but I dont know the answer
[05:52] <obk> k
[05:52] <prg> Another question for anyone:  I just found the pakage i want to get on 'packages.debian.org'.  How can I point apt towards this so that it will correctly fill all the dependencices?
[05:52] <thesilentkiller> how do i install subversion?
[05:52] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Try waiting for it to start... It works for me - however, it sucks to wait 10 minutes for login. :(
[05:52] <iiiears> Mabus - use lspci to see the bus ID of your card add those numbers to the dpkg-reconfigure command  write down the vga card manufacture name EXACTLY and add it manually.
[05:52] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, can you try stopping gdm and then starting gdm from the command line and see what happens.
[05:52] <prg> what is the line I enter to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:52] <madsen> thesilentkiller: sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:53] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, or try startx to start another xserver
[05:53] <intelikey> set it up like you were booting a different kernel ......... mmmmm no wait. the root will be wrong.   you would have to have your home on a seperate partition, if so then set it up like you do any other kernel kickstart.  with the root set to that partition
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, GDM comes up
[05:53] <thesilentkiller> madsen: thanks
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> ok fine
[05:53] <madsen> thesilentkiller: np :)
[05:53] <Mabus01> iiiears: epme
[05:53] <Mabus01> er
[05:53] <Mabus01> iiiears: #helpme
[05:53] <sirmixalot> when installing the base system it hangs
[05:53] <sirmixalot> at 6%
[05:53] <sirmixalot> i dont understand what could be wrong with the cd if i got it off their very site
[05:53] <sirmixalot> md5?
[05:53] <sirmixalot> i used nero
[05:53] <iiiears> Mabus01 - okay
[05:53] <linuxgeek2> Fatal server erro server is alraeady active
[05:54] <cafuego> ksmurf: Yeah, you vna simply add server definitions in the gdm.conf file.
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, what speed did you burn at?
[05:54] <sirmixalot> 24
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> madsen, it's sucks man
[05:54] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, but does it hang? Any messages on term1
[05:54] <sirmixalot> but nero always burns perfect
[05:54] <cafuego> sirmixalot: The internet is not a 100% reliable medium. neither are CDs.
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, burn at lowest speed MAY fix, no guarantees
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> professor_chaos, how do I check that ?
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: it's not?
[05:54] <intelikey> RancidLM you might be able to start the installer from a running system.   that would make things a lot simpler for you.
[05:54] <linuxgeek2> messages onm term1
[05:54] <mustard5> sirmixalot, first check it is not corrupt ISO though
[05:54] <madsen> linuxgeek2: Yeah, it sucks and if I ever find out what's causing it you can bet I'll post it in the wiki.
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> brb, talking to share traders
[05:54] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, how are you starting gdm from the commandline?
[05:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: OMG! I'll have them re-send the memo to you ;-)
[05:55] <sirmixalot> it was a torrent but still
[05:55] <ksmurf> cafuego K I'll try that.....
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> nope professor_chaos it automatcially comes up
[05:55] <Modi|help> ok i have a grub prompt in terminal
[05:55] <Modi|help> how do i disable it
[05:55] <cafuego> ksmurf: You can do that easily via the 'Login Manager Setup' thingie in your admin menu.
[05:55] <pppoe_dude> obk, when u did the dmesg, did you see a reference for "aetheros"?
[05:55] <sirmixalot> how can i see weither its a bad iso just burn it again?
[05:55] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, so if you bootup, it hangs after typing your login? right?
[05:55] <sirmixalot> and what is md5?
[05:55] <cafuego> sirmixalot: via md5sum
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> yes
[05:55] <madsen> professor_chaos: I have the same problem, but can't seem to fix it - it's been bugging me for 4 days. The login just hangs for 10 minutes... No useful error messages anywhere. (A bit in .xsession-errors, but I can't seem to locate the problem from it.)
[05:55] <linuxgeek2> ye professor_chaos
[05:56] <sirmixalot> does it come in a windows version?
[05:56] <cafuego> sirmixalot: Maybe, I wouldn't know :-)
[05:56] <intelikey> RancidLM but if you copy the kernel and the initrd to a boatable dos/windows drive and then use "loadlin.exe kernel initrd=initrd.name root=dev/ram "   it should work.
[05:56] <mustard5> madsen and linuxgeek2, did you both have a the hostname resolve problem with sudo earlier?  Just curious.
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> Ah finally loaded
[05:57] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, try "ctrl+alt+f1" then... "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ... then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[05:57] <madsen> mustard5: Yup!
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> yes mustard5
[05:57] <linuxgeek2> I had to fix that
[05:57] <codept> why i can't login to Y!mail using lynx?
[05:57] <madsen> mustard5: However, that does not occur in my .xsession-errors any more. Why?
[05:57] <cafuego> mustard5: a sudo hostname issue happens when your localhost entry is /etc/hosts is broken.
[05:57] <r0d> how can i search synaptic for specific header files i need to compile?
[05:57] <intelikey> professor_chaos restart  ?
[05:57] <madsen> codept: No javascript perhaps?
[05:57] <intelikey> one command. does both
[05:57] <mustard5> cafuego, I was curious whether it was related to the login to gnome hanging...
[05:58] <madsen> r0d: What do you mean? For what?
[05:58] <RancidLM> intelikey: would this work in winxp?
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> madsen, coz of the hostname is it causing problem
[05:58] <cafuego> mustard5: It's possible i guess
[05:58] <mustard5> cafuego, both had a busted sudo with it not being able to resolve
[05:58] <shadymike> Network Question: With the system monitor I constantly get Recieved network traffic of about 6-7 kb.  However I cannot see any open connections when I run netstat.  Where is this traffic comming from?
[05:58] <professor_chaos> linuxgeek2, if no hanging there, then its not gdm
[05:58] <codept> i cannot login to any any authenticated site using lynx
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> ok
[05:58] <mustard5> cafuego, both have fixed it and now both have gnome hang
[05:58] <prg> Apparently I don't understand what I am talking about... are sites like 'packages.debian.org' not repositories as well?
[05:58] <cafuego> mustard5: <heh>
[05:58] <linuxgeek2> madsen, mustard5 it takes 10 minutes
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> prg: they are, but they contain packages built for debian
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> not ubuntu
[05:59] <r0d> madsen,  i missing header files for  a certain program to compile. so im trying to find out what dev package i need or if i can download specic header files
[05:59] <linuxgeek2> probably it's the hostname in /etc/hosts which I specified
[05:59] <intelikey> RancidLM mmmmm yeah there is a loadlin that is supposed to run from windows.  the origenal only ran from dos.    aka command prompt only   mode.
[05:59] <HrdwrBoB> r0d: 'packagename-dev
[05:59] <cafuego> linuxgeek2: You need to have '<IP_ADDRESS>    localhost' in there.
[05:59] <madsen> r0d: Is the source by any chance a deb-src?
[05:59] <linuxgeek2> yes cafuego
[06:00] <ce_zomblo> hai
[06:00] <prg> HrdwrBoB: okay, so then if I can't find a package on the ubuntu server I am out of luck then unless I compile it?
[06:00] <madsen> linuxgeek2: You got in after 10 minutes?
[06:00] <r0d> HrdwrBoB, no. its not a program im downloading is just alittle snippet of code
[06:00] <linuxgeek2> well my /etc/hosts looks like this <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ash
[06:00] <mustard5> linuxgeek2 and madsen, can you both join #flood channel and paste your /etc/hosts contents in that channel?
[06:00] <linuxgeek2> yes madsen , :( after 10 minutes
[06:00] <madsen> mustard5: Better, I'll rafb.net/paste it.
[06:01] <mustard5> k
[06:01] <r0d> madsen,  nope. im looking for 'windows.h'
[06:01] <cafuego> codept: installed lynx-ssl yet?
[06:01] <madsen> mustard5: http://rafb.net/paste/results/65glUI57.html
[06:01] <professor_chaos> later
[06:01] <codept> lynx-ssl???
[06:01] <intelikey> yeah
[06:01] <[Spooky] > whats the name of the html editing program ? scream or sceam ?
[06:02] <pppoe_dude> obk, i'm sure you need the madwifi (aetheros) chipset driver... try and see what a search in name/description gives you for "madwifi" in synaptic
[06:02] <madsen> r0d: Hmm, try 'packages.ubuntu.com', you can search for package content there (a little down the page)... I think you're looking for wine-dev, but I'm not sure.
[06:02] <madsen> [Spooky] : screem I think :)
[06:02] <[Spooky] > madsen: ah thanks ;)
[06:02] <madsen> [Spooky] : np :)
[06:03] <codept> cafuego: the basic lynx doesnt come with lynx-ssl?
[06:03] <intelikey> [Spooky]  vi    ?
[06:03] <linuxgeek2> WHich line do I enable in sources.list for the latest repository
[06:03] <madsen> intelikey: lol
[06:03] <linuxgeek2> in Ubuntu
[06:03] <intelikey> :)
[06:03] <madsen> !tell linuxgeek2 about repos
[06:04] <sirmixalot> what is md5sum supposed to return?
[06:04] <[Spooky] > intelikey:  no, but thanks anyway :)
[06:04] <madsen> sirmixalot: an md5 sum.
[06:04] <mustard5> madsen, your's looks ok too...I'm stumped
[06:04] <madsen> mustard5: I know... I am too...
[06:04] <sirmixalot> i think it returned a memory allocation
[06:04] <sirmixalot> or something
[06:04] <intelikey> can write html via "echo "   :)
[06:04] <sirmixalot> it returned a long line of numbers good or bad?
[06:05] <madsen> mustard5: However, it seems that esd is hanging - but I can't really verify it. I sometimes get something like 'couldn't start esd' in .xsession-errors.
[06:05] <madsen> sirmixalot: like, numbers and letters from a-f and 0-9?
[06:05] <bimberi> sirmixalot: there should be an md5sum file on the website where you downloaded the iso from.  compare the line of numbers to that
[06:05] <sirmixalot> mmhmm
[06:05] <Mabus01> mustard5: seems normally it appears like this
[06:05] <yasser> i get plugins error in opera.....anyway to fix it??
[06:05] <Mabus01> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]  (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[06:06] <Mabus01> 0000:01:09.9 VGA compatible controller; nVidiia Corporation: unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:06] <madsen> Sean89: I can't dcc - what do you want?
[06:06] <Mabus01> that's what it says for me
[06:06] <yasser> i get plugins error in opera.....anyway to fix it??
[06:06] <Mabus01> errr
[06:06] <Mabus01> 0000:01:09.9 VGA compatible controller: nVididia Corporation: unknown device 0326 (rev a1)
[06:06] <mustard5> Mabus01, try not to paste too much in main, ops get trigger happy ;)
[06:07] <yasser>  i installed amarok-xine...still cant play mp3s!!
[06:07] <ubuntu> hello
[06:07] <ubuntu> damn it
[06:07] <madsen> !tell yasser about restricted formats
[06:07] <Modi|help> i need some help plz
[06:07] <mustard5> Mabus01, its all gobbly gook to me unfortunately
[06:07] <cronik> hi everyone
[06:08] <intelikey> modi no
[06:08] <Sean89> Just needed some help.... So I use Places > Connect to Server... and get connect correctly. The mount now appears on the desktop. How can I get this mount to "/mnt/tiger"?
[06:08] <madsen> Mabus01: What's the problem?
[06:08] <Modi|help> damn
[06:08] <cronik> is there anyone that could help me with a wireless pro that i have?
[06:08] <Lord> Where i can find some documents to help me "comp the kernel"?
[06:08] <mustard5> madsen, he has an uncooperative nvidia pci card
[06:08] <madsen> Sean89: Why is that so important?
[06:08] <Mabus01> madsen: can't get computer to boot using geforce
[06:08] <Modi|help> why not?
[06:08] <madsen> Mabus01: Ugh, sorry, can't help you there. ATI Radeon here - and I know nothing about it. :(
[06:09] <cronik> can any one help
[06:09] <Sean89> So that I can run a .img that is in a folder on my WinXP machine
[06:09] <intelikey> Modi|help just ask your questions    don't ask to ask, and don't just say "help"   :)
[06:09] <mustard5> cronik, possibly
[06:09] <cronik> lol
[06:09] <mustard5> cronik, you read the wiki guides yet?
[06:09] <madsen> Sean89: And why can't you run that from where nautilus mounts it?
[06:09] <Modi|help> har har ok i need to remove grub from my boot path
[06:09] <pppoe_dude> obk u there?
[06:09] <sirmixalot> the md5sum returned good iso!!
[06:09] <sirmixalot> woohoo
[06:09] <madsen> sirmixalot: :)
[06:09] <sirmixalot> i dont feel like dling again
[06:09] <Mabus01> mustard5:  link me to the howto guides page please
[06:09] !lilo:*! Btw, http://freenode.net/ is back up, though it may be up and down while I scratch my head and figure out the new config file layouts 8)
[06:10] <intelikey> Modi|help and use what ?
[06:10] <sirmixalot> now just burn real slow?
[06:10] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about wireless
[06:10] <Mabus01> so I can try a few things there again, make sure I am doing them righit
[06:10] <cronik> well i jus finish installing ubuntu and i don"t know how to put my wireless connetion to work,i have a hp dv 1000
[06:10] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about wifi
[06:10] <odie5533> How do I repair the grub menu?
[06:10] <madsen> !tell Mabus01 about nvidia
[06:10] <mustard5> thanks madsen :)
[06:10] <madsen> :)
[06:10] <sirmixalot> any features amoung nero i need to enable
[06:10] <madsen> sirmixalot: Make sure you make the cd bootable. (Don't know Nero though.)
[06:11] <Modi|help> i needed to formatt my hdd with ubuntu and grub is keeping me out of my boot.ini
[06:11] <sirmixalot> i made one a2 hours ago and it booted
[06:11] <cronik> anyone knows how to fix that pro
[06:11] <Sean89> Madsen: Well I want it in /mnt/ so that I can run my commands to use the .img.... Is there a better way?
[06:11] <intelikey> Modi|help you can't just remove grub.  you can replace it with ....    but if you just simply removed it the system would not boot at all from the hd.
[06:11] <sirmixalot> so i think its default
[06:11] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, u there
[06:12] <cronik> i read everuthing
[06:12] <madsen> Sean89: Well, nautilus mounts it somewhere, so try "df -h" and see if that reveals anything to you. :)
[06:12] <Modi|help> i had it on a diff hdd and how can i replace it?
[06:12] <odie5533> How do I repair the grub menu when windows takes it over?
[06:12] <cronik> and i try everthing 2
[06:12] <mustard5> cronik, you have read the guides?
[06:12] <cronik> yup
[06:12] <bob2> odie5533: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:12] <cronik> i can even give u the link
[06:12] <mustard5> ah k...well you need to be more specific with your problem
[06:12] <pppoe_dude> Bharath yes
[06:12] <sirmixalot> my writer will only write at 24x :(
[06:12] <morphix> can someone help with getting Apache & Perl working? i have perl installed.. and of course apache.. but its not working.. cgi scripts just come up as text :(
[06:12] <cronik> u talking 2 me?
[06:12] <Sean89> Madsen: it says "/dev/hda5       13G  6.9G  5.4G  57% /"
[06:12] <madsen> Sean89: I think, that if you want to decide WHERE the smb share is mounted, then you need 'smbmount', but you're on a livecd, right?
[06:13] <mustard5> cronik, ah k...well you need to be more specific with your problem
[06:13] <mustard5> :)
[06:13] <madsen> Sean89: Nothing else?
[06:13] <cronik> ok
[06:13] <x86i> Is there any place that has a good and detailed explanation has to how the init levels work in Ubuntu?
[06:13] <pppoe_dude> Bharath?
[06:13] <Sean89> Madsen: Correct, that is why I am having the problems. No nothing else.
[06:13] <mustard5> cronik, you used pastebin before?
[06:13] <sirmixalot> should i rewrite the cd at 24x?
[06:13] <sirmixalot> same speed
[06:13] <Bharath> i was just asking did u find anyother way
[06:13] <rain`> x86i, i just found that recenetly, i try to find it again
[06:14] <intelikey> Modi|help with lilo or a dos mbr or any other bootloader.    to format a partition  from linux use "sudo mkfs.<type> /dev/hd?# " where ? is a letter and # is a number of the partiton modi|help
[06:14] <cronik> well,i just finish installin ubuntu linux today,i have a build in wirelesscard in my lap top hp dv 1000,and my comp dose not read it
[06:14] <cronik> wat can i do
[06:14] <bob2> x86i: uh, same as on every other modern unix
[06:14] <bob2> x86i: /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[06:14] <mustard5> ubotu: tell cronik about pastebin
[06:14] <pppoe_dude> Bharath another for obk?
[06:14] <Modi|help> ok im using the live cd atm
[06:14] <mustard5> read that link from ubotu plz cronik
[06:14] <intelikey> Modi|help you can use fdisk -l /dev/hd?  to list the partitions on a given disk.
[06:15] <bob2> x86i: especially /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.runlevels.gz
[06:15] <madsen> Sean89: Hmm, weird... I'm not sure what you're trying to do - but couldn't you just transfer the .img to your Ubuntu?
[06:15] <x86i> bob2: lol we have got to stop meeting like this :P
[06:15] <bob2> Modi|help: what are you trying to do?
[06:15] <Modi|help> ok let's try this im a linux noob
[06:15] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, oh ya sorry disconnected so came with another name
[06:15] <mustard5> cronik, you will probably need to know how to use the pastebin to solve this issue
[06:15] <Modi|help> im trying to get to my boot.ini past grub
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> Bharath oh... so ur obk?
[06:15] <Bharath> yes
[06:15] <pppoe_dude> co
[06:15] <Sean89> Madsen: No because it is the live cd and therefore there is no HDD. Thanks for your help anyway. I will try tommorow.
[06:15] <Modi|help> intel how do i do that fdisk
[06:16] <madsen> Sean89: Wait, you might be able to do: mount -t smbfs //server/share /mnt/<share> (once you've created the dir /mnt/<share>).
[06:16] <Modi|help> or can i do it from the live cd?
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> Bharath,  k... um, try lspci
[06:16] <intelikey> Modi|help you can use "fdisk -l /dev/hd? " to list the partitions on a given disk.
[06:16] <bob2> Modi|help: no, that makes no sense.
[06:16] <madsen> Sean89: Well, df -h said you had hda5 mounted... (?)
[06:16] <Modi|help> HOW
[06:16] <pppoe_dude> Bharath,  see if it gives you any reference to aetheros or madwifi
[06:16] <bob2> Modi|help: what is your goal? what is happening that you don't want to have happen?
[06:16] <Modi|help> ok i had to formatt my hdd with ubuntu installed
[06:17] <madsen> Sean89: You might have to stick 'sudo' in front of the mount command.
[06:17] <sirmixalot> could it be that the first cd a brand new DELL laptop wrote was corrupt?
[06:17] <Modi|help> grub is keepig me from booting to windows
[06:17] <madsen> sirmixalot: Well, it _is_ a Dell. :-p
[06:17] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, nothing like that
[06:17] <Modi|help> it says error 17 or something
[06:17] <bob2> Modi|help: so, #windows, and ask them how to reinstall the windows bootloader into the MBR
[06:17] <madsen> !tell Modi|help about dual boot
[06:17] <bob2> Modi|help: if you have an old windows cd, you can use "fdisk /mbr"
[06:17] <sirmixalot> it only allows me the option of 24x
[06:17] <Bharath> i can see  Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Inter face
[06:17] <realshotgun> i like this so far, but man such a change
[06:17] <sirmixalot> isnt that odd?
[06:18] <Modi|help> prob is i have 32 bit xp aand 64 bit xp
[06:18] <realshotgun> im so confused
[06:18] <bob2> sirmixalot: this is not a nero support channel...
[06:18] <x86i> bob2: I guess my question is, before when I asked for assistance, you told me that Ubuntu never reaches init level 3, I guess I was wondering why? Does it only use 0-2?
[06:18] <mustard5> sirmixalot, very odd
[06:18] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, any reference to the network card?
[06:18] <bob2> Modi|help: #windows, this is not an ubuntu issue
[06:18] <cafuego> Bharath: You are in for a world of pain.
[06:18] <Xenguy> madsen: sudo if you want to be root in Ubu
[06:18] <Bharath> pppoe_dude,  Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Inter face
[06:18] <madsen> Xenguy: huh?
[06:18] <bob2> x86i: "reaches"?
[06:18] <cafuego> Bharath: The latest acx100 driver (not the one in Ubuntu, but a CVS version) mostly works. Your best bet is 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:18] <Modi|help> ok we will see
[06:18] <Sean89> Madsen: Thanks alot for your help. I am getting on the right track, but I have to give up for tongiht. Thanks alot though, you were a bit help!
[06:18] <bob2> x86i: they are not numbered in any particular order
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> Bharath: argh,,, TI
[06:19] <bob2> x86i: you can call them foo, bar, baz, bong, bill, blow and charlie instead of 0-6
[06:19] <madsen> Sean89: No problem! Come back if you encounter more problems. :)
[06:19] <rain`> x86i: do "gedit /etc/inittab" <-- read the comments in there for more info
[06:19] <Bharath> ndiswrapper! wat is that
[06:19] <Xenguy> madsen: grunt
[06:19] <pppoe_dude> Bharath: ndiswraapper lets you use windows drivers
[06:19] <madsen> Xenguy: grunt? What? (You got me totally confused now...)
[06:19] <Xenguy> wtf
[06:19] <Bharath> oh ok how to get it
[06:20] <sirmixalot> ubuntu setup is driving me to drink
[06:20] <intelikey> grub will boot your winxp if you set it up right Modi|help
[06:20] <x86i> Well, I know its not in order, but the main system just runs everything it needs at level 2, most programs use others, just wondering why they decided on the change.
[06:20] <rain`> x86i: its all one runlevel...
[06:20] <Xenguy> madsen: I don't know what you're on about now
[06:20] <mustard5> Xenguy, you sent madsen a message earlier about root and sudo...he is wondering what you mean
[06:20] <madsen> Xenguy: Yup! :)
[06:20] <bob2> x86i: that made no sense
[06:20] <Xenguy> mustard5: oh
[06:20] <madsen> mustard5: thanks :)
[06:20] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, try with synaptic
[06:20] <bob2> x86i: things that should run on a normal system run in runlevels 2-5.
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: "most programs use others"?
[06:21] <nagual> Can someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why it isn't showing up in my view workgroup computers in win xp?
[06:21] <cronik> hey man
[06:21] <Xenguy> madsen: sorry, I can't find it on my buffer anymore
[06:21] <x86i> Like take for example, webmin. Webmin normally installs its service for init 3
[06:21] <cronik> i already done all of that
[06:21] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, theres some utility software there too... but i personally recommend u try a different card, i had bad luck with texas instruments... so many wasted hours
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: no, it doesn't
[06:21] <cronik> im telling u,this thing is killing me
[06:21] <madsen> Xenguy: It's alright, you just said "sudo if you want to be root". :)
[06:21] <bob2> x86i: the webmin package runs in 2-5
[06:21] <ModiFiyd> well it was right right but i removed the
[06:21] <cronik> i don"t wanna go back to xp
[06:21] <cronik> lol
[06:21] <Xenguy> madsen: /msg ubotu root
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> Bharath, might wanna try apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:22] <madsen> Xenguy: there you go again. ;)
[06:22] <coolkev> what up ubuntu
[06:22] <intelikey> who did this to the bot ??? [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Please use private messages, like '/msg ubotu grub', rather than posting into the channel needlessly.   <--- in prv mgs    ;/
[06:22] <coolkev> hows every body tonight
[06:22] <Xenguy> madsen: wow, just type it dude
[06:22] <coolkev> dude
[06:22] <coolkev> where's my car
[06:22] <sirmixalot> i think the ubuntu cd may have been scratched i remember my puppy eating some cdr's lol
[06:22] <coolkev> yes maybe
[06:22] <sector10> ubuntu iooking real good if you double the panel size, then add things
[06:22] <Xenguy> coolkev: where's my country?
[06:22] <cronik> lol
[06:23] <coolkev> em USA
[06:23] <sirmixalot> pack of 100 too
[06:23] <cronik> hey guys,a lil help here
[06:23] <Xenguy> coolkev: Amerika
[06:23] <nagual> Can someone take a look at my smb.conf file and tell me why my ubuntu box  isn't showing up in my view workgroup computers in win xp?
[06:23] <madsen> Xenguy: lol, did you smoke crack or something? I never asked for any help of any kind about 'root'! :)
[06:23] <cronik> i  don"t wanna go back to xp
[06:23] <rain`> intelikey: just say "root" to it
[06:23] <sector10> -8c it says here
[06:23] <coolkev> ohh are you one of Amerikaz most wanted gangsters
[06:23] <Xenguy> madsen: go away, I have no idea why you are stalking me ferchrisakes
[06:23] <sector10> at the top, but it cant be that cold.
[06:24] <intelikey> rain`  yeah.   funny stuff there..... :)
[06:24] <madsen> Xenguy: "06:22 < Xenguy> madsen: /msg ubotu root"
[06:24] <sector10> ice runway
[06:24] <cronik> how can i set my laptop(hp dv 1000)to work wirless
[06:24] <bob2> nagual: questions like that need to be accompanied by urls to your file
[06:24] <rain`> intelikey: well the point was that it works :P
[06:24] <mustard5> madsen, it all a miscommunication...let it die ;)
[06:24] <nagual> ok.  hold on
[06:24] <cronik> how can i set my laptop(hp dv 1000)to work wirless
[06:24] <[Spooky] > is it possible to set the nic to not response to ping ?
[06:24] <intelikey> rain`  but try telling it to tell you something
[06:24] <mustard5> madsen your both driving me nuts missing the point :D
[06:24] <moo> any idea why breezy badger stalls on the initial install? after detecting the cdrom, it just drops to the blue screen and does nothing. it's not froze and i can tab to other VC's but it never continues the install
[06:25] <lameduck> Hello everyone!
[06:25] <Xenguy> madsen: if it is a case of mistaken identity, then fuck off and let it go
[06:25] <bob2> [Spooky] : why would you want to do that?
[06:25] <coolkev> breezy badger
[06:25] <bob2> moo: verify the CD
[06:25] <sector10> what are the programs when i right click on top panel?
[06:25] <bob2> cronik: be less vague
[06:25] <coolkev> i once milked a badger
[06:25] <intelikey> rain like i just did.
[06:25] <lameduck> Quit for lunch
[06:25] <sector10> are they java?
[06:25] <moo> what's the easiest way to do that bob2
[06:25] <kevogod> Xenguy, Language please.
[06:25] <coolkev> didn't go very well
[06:25] <[Spooky] > bob2: ping flooders ?
[06:25] <rain`> itelikey: oh I see, you do "tell me about root" and then it adds that unessesary line after...
[06:25] <nagual> ok bob2:  it is here http://nagual.homelinux.net/smb.conf
[06:25] <bob2> [Spooky] : no, that's dumb
[06:26] <intelikey> yep
[06:26] <Xenguy> kevogod: scuse me I'll just bite my fsckin tongue off
[06:26] <bob2> [Spooky] : if peopel ping flood you, they've already used up your bandwidth by the time you drop the packet
[06:26] <madsen> Xenguy: It's kinda hard to when my nick is constantly highlighted... Relax - and try being a little more careful with the tab-completion, ok? It's all I ask... It's just a bit distracting and confusing.
[06:26] <sector10> looks like plesk lol
[06:26] <yasser> anyway to fix opera motif error?
[06:26] <[Spooky] > bob2: ok so what should i do ?
[06:26] <sector10> oh im on beach theme its nice
[06:26] <Xenguy> madsen: relax is the operative word - I'll see what I can do :P
[06:26] <cronik> come on guys,im tring to get rid of windows,i really need to put thing to work
[06:26] <bob2> nagual: also, you need to tell us what your windows workgroup name is, and whether the network works fine otherwise
[06:26] <bob2> cronik: begging is of no use, no one cares if you use windows or not
[06:27] <bob2> cronik: you need to find out what sort of wireless NI you have
[06:27] <cronik> how can i do that?
[06:27] <nagual> bob2: right now, neither xp computer can see the other or the ubuntu box.  workgroup name is MADELS
[06:27] <madsen> Xenguy: Hehe, thanks. :)
[06:27] <bob2> nagual: so it's a network problem then
[06:27] <Xenguy> madsen: no worries
[06:27] <nagual> bob2:  what could be causing it?  I have the windows user names on both xp pro boxes.
[06:27] <bob2> cronik: by reading your manual or box or the output of "lspci".
[06:27] <x86i> nagual: can you ping either of the box's?
[06:27] <intelikey> pciutils   lspci
[06:28] <bob2> nagual: ignore xmb entirely until you fix your network to work at all
[06:28] <cronik> ok
[06:28] <cronik> imma check it right now
[06:28] <cronik> brb
[06:28] <madsen> Well then, who knows how I can teach my bealge to fetch pdfs?
[06:28] <pppoe_dude> lol
[06:28] <sector10> he he
[06:28] <bob2> so
[06:28] <x86i> bob2: My apologies, it turns out webmin has known issues with Ubuntu unless you use the apt-get version.
[06:28] <madsen> s/bealge/beagle/
[06:29] <moo> bob2: can you tell me a way to verify the cd?
[06:29] <bob2> presumably you mean "Does anyone know how to configure Beagle to index .pdf files?"
[06:29] <madsen> bob2: Exactly, I just got tired of saying that. :)
[06:29] <bob2> moo: boot into expert mode, select "verify cd"
[06:29] <mahangu> i installed flash via apt-get
[06:29] <mahangu> but pages wont load :o
[06:29] <Xenguy> x86i: I think webmin is mostly a bad idea (but that is just heresay mostly)
[06:29] <moo> ok
[06:29] <moo> thanks
[06:29] <bob2> x86i: right, hence why packaging software involves more than checkinstall ;)
[06:29] <nagual> bob2: yes.  all boxes can ping eachother.    And why do I always have a bunch of them sleeping after I log out?
[06:30] <bob2> nagual: those statements seem contradictory
[06:30] <sirmixalot> ha it was a scratch on the cd made by my hungry puppy haha
[06:30] <brandon_> Im new tolinuz and i was wondering how i run windows programs with linux
[06:30] <sirmixalot> install works now!
[06:30] <bob2> also, adios.
[06:30] <grodius> How do I configure the terminal for a proxy?
[06:30] <nagual> bob2:  what do you mean?
[06:30] <madsen> sirmixalot: Great! :)
[06:30] <bob2> brandon_: you don't, generally
[06:30] <brandon_> I have wine
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: that makes no sense
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: I think I fixed mine by taking out glx from xorg.conf
[06:31] <mustard5> brandon_, best to find an alternative that runs in linux
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: do you mean "How do I tell applications to use a HTTP proxy?"
[06:31] <mshade> sector10, hmm.. i'll give that a shot, seems unrelated though.
[06:31] <madsen> bob2: Do you know how to make it (beagle) index pdfs?
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: what you got?
[06:31] <bob2> grodius: export HTTP_PROXY=http://whateva/
[06:31] <mustard5> brandon_, what do you want to do?
[06:31] <sirmixalot> on the next cd there was a dog hair underneath it she left the scene with red paint
[06:31] <mshade> sector10, it's a sony vaio with an ALPS glidepoint
[06:31] <intelikey> hmmmm dosemu not a ub package ?
[06:31] <bob2> !+info dosemu
[06:31] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[06:31] <sector10> mshade: i got a vaio
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, what model?
[06:32] <sector10> mshade: using it right now, its vgn-fs660
[06:32] <lsald> intelikey, check your sources.list
[06:32] <brandon_> No, Ive heard i could use wine, so that i could run windows based programs on my linux system
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, similar to mine. i've got a vgn-s260
[06:32] <intelikey> multiverse eeek    i don't have multi..
[06:32] <sector10> mshade: its working real good
[06:32] <mshade> sector10, yeah, i like mine a lot too. SuSE did the touchpad right.. I'm just trying to get it right under ubuntu now
[06:32] <Xenguy> intelikey: you need multiverse :-)
[06:32] <mustard5> brandon_, personally I find wine a pain the behind
[06:32] <nagual> bob2:  what do you mean?
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: i had lots of things wrong
[06:33] <mustard5> brandon_, its a dog to use
[06:33] <[koji] > anyone here knows how to disable graphical startup?
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, no dice on taking glx out
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, didn't seem to help.
[06:33] <lsald> [koji] , change the default runlevel
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, mind sending me your xorg.conf?
[06:33] <brandon_> Can anyone help me or private message me with help
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: how is your touchpad?
[06:33] <mshade> sector10, what do you mean
[06:33] <mustard5> brandon_, you visited the ubuntuforums?
[06:33] <sector10> mshade: too sensative?
[06:33] <[koji] > lsald, a little guidance?
[06:34] <sector10> mshade: opening windows?
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: trying to enable scrolling etc
[06:34] <mustard5> brandon_, there are a number of threads in the forum which will give you a good idea about what you are up against
[06:34] <intelikey> would someone be so kind as to post the multiverse url for 5.04 ?
[06:34] <Xenguy> [koji] : cd /etc/init.d ; update-rd.d -f program
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: and double tap--hold to drag
[06:34] <Xenguy> er
[06:34] <mustard5> brandon_, it would be a good start to finding out whether you are heading down the right path
[06:34] <intelikey> i'll add it right quickly.
[06:34] <x86i> nagual: Have you restarted samba since you edited your config?
[06:34] <mshade> sector10: synclient -h reports 'No touchpad found'
[06:35] <nagual> yes.
[06:35] <nagual> I will try again.
[06:35] <Xenguy> [koji] : update-rc.d
[06:35] <sector10> mshade: my driver is synaptics
[06:35] <mshade> sector10: mine too
[06:35] <x86i> nagual: also make sure you dont have any firewall software running on either machine
[06:36] <realshotgun> how do I uninstall wine?
[06:36] <lsald> [koji] , inittab
[06:36] <nemik> i'm running a base install. once i do 'crontab foo.cron' will it always stay there or do i have to do it each time i restart?
[06:36] <sector10> mshade: let me test it
[06:36] <mustard5> realshotgun, how did you install it?
[06:36] <Xenguy> apt-get remove wine
[06:36] <mshade> sector10: what are you testing?
[06:36] <sector10> mshade: whats scolling?
[06:36] <realshotgun> thank you
[06:37] <sector10> mshade: maybe my english is bad
[06:37] <nemik> and where should i place me .sh script so it runs every time i boot up?
[06:37] <x86i> nagual: also, uncomment this line in the config name resolve order
[06:37] <Xenguy> nemik: what window manager/desktop environment?
[06:37] <mshade> sector10: scrolling -- moving your finger up and down the right side to scroll a page like a mouse wheel
[06:37] <iPrank> hey
[06:37] <sector10> mshade: i dont have issues with touchpad
[06:38] <iPrank> how do i get my mp3s to play?
[06:38] <lsald> Itell iPrank mp3
[06:38] <nemik> Xenguy: command line
[06:38] <nemik> the base/server install
[06:38] <grodius> bob2 do i put in the actual server or the link to the autoconfig file
[06:38] <lsald> !tell iPrank mp3
[06:38] <rob_p> nemik:  You can put it in /etc/init.d and then make the appropriate sym link to it from all wanted run level dirs.  Use the update-rc.d tool to accomplish that.
[06:38] <Xenguy> nemik: /etc/init.d/skeleton
[06:39] <grodius> bob2 is it proxy.proxy.proxy:port ?
[06:39] <Xenguy> nemik: is one idea
[06:39] <sector10> mshade: i have to hold left button down
[06:39] <nemik> thanks guys
[06:39] <mshade> sector10: :|
[06:39] <sector10> mshade: if you get a usb mouse
[06:39] <nagual> x86i: still nothin.  Why would the 2 windows boxes be able to ping eachother, but not see eachother in the view workgroup computers?  I think if I could solve this problem I could fix the samba problem.
[06:40] <nemik> and does cron run automatically on startup? and once i add something to cron (crontab foo.cron) do i have to do it each time or is once enough?
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: i had this working under a different distro.
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: i'm not accepting defeat her :)
[06:40] <Xenguy> nemik: you add the script, chmod, then update.rc-d default scriptname (I think)
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: i have this, with infra-red
[06:40] <grodius> anyone know what command to run to set up an http proxy
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: suse?
[06:40] <mshade> sector10: yeah
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: he he he
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: me too
[06:40] <sector10> mshade: but worst was wireless
[06:40] <nemik> Xenguy, thanks. i alsways run in root so chmod shouldn't be a problem but i'll just 775 it. thanks!
[06:40] <x86i> nagual: both of the windows boxes have file and printer sharing enabled.
[06:41] <sector10> mshade: in ubuntu iw2200 works
[06:41] <nagual> x86i yes
[06:41] <Xenguy> nemik: you add the script, chmod, then update.rc-d defaults scriptname (I think)
[06:41] <nemik> Xenguy, thanks. i alsways run in root so chmod shouldn't be a problem but i'll just 775 it. thanks!
[06:41] <mshade> sector10: yeah, out of the box which is nice.
[06:41] <x86i> nagual: and have been rebooted since being added to that workgroup?
[06:41] <mshade> sector10: i didn't have problems with ipw2200 at all, though.. under any distro
[06:41] <Xenguy> nemik: or 755 ?
[06:41] <iPrank> I cant get my mp3s to play....
[06:41] <nagual> x86i: yes
[06:41] <plumpkin> hey guys, i have a wireless question. i have my wireless card set up and working (its an ra2500 chipset), so i have the raconfig utility installed, and i see the link is up etc.  i just want to know how to make my computer use the wireless instead of the wired connection?
[06:41] <nemik> yea 755 is good too!  Thanks... I guess... (?)
[06:42] <x86i> nagual: hrm. wait a sec, do you have anything shared on the windows boxes?
[06:42] <madsen> iPrank: Read the link ubotu sent you.
[06:42] <intelikey> only said that to show that you are not being ignored.
[06:42] <nagual> x86i no.  let me share something quick.  see if it helps
[06:43] <sector10> mshade: do you have nvidia
[06:43] <nagual> x86i: shouldn't there be some default widnows shares?
[06:43] <x86i> nagual: Yes, in windows you have to share something, otherwise nothing will show
[06:43] <mshade> sector10: ati
[06:43] <nemik> so is cron a process that starts up automatically on boot or much it be update.rc-d'd too?
[06:43] <nemik> so is cron a process that starts up automatically on boot or must it be update.rc-d'd too?
[06:43] <x86i> nagul: The problem with samba could be that you dont have simple filesharing in windows setup
[06:44] <Aven> hello
[06:44] <Xenguy> nemik: cron is a different mechanism than /etc/init.d/*
[06:44] <lsald> nagual, also if you're running sp2 turn off the FW
[06:44] <erickUbuntu> any counterpart of visio in ubuntu
[06:44] <Aven> does anyone know a way to run photoshop using linux?
[06:44] <madsen> erickUbuntu: What's visio?
[06:44] <Slaj_R> stupid question:  apt-get doesn't find w32codecs.  Why not?
[06:44] <intelikey> i really wish ubuntu didn't disable the windows keys in console mode........
[06:44] <Xenguy> Aven: frankscorner.org...
[06:44] <erickUbuntu> try the draw of openoffice
[06:44] <nagual> x86i:  didn't work.
[06:44] <madsen> !tell Slaj_R about restricted formats
[06:44] <nagual> lsald: have already done that
[06:44] <lsald> Slaj_R, check your sources.list
[06:44] <jbroome> Slaj_R: might not have the right repo in sources.list
[06:44] <Xenguy> Aven: or gimp.org :P
[06:44] <x86i> nagual: open up My Computer, and goto Tools
[06:44] <bimberi> Slaj_R: because if it's in an official ubuntu repository we'll all go to prison :P
[06:44] <Aven> I want photoshop, not gimp
[06:44] <stevenj> is anyone getting strange xsession errors? (breezy,gnome) possibly regarding .ICEauthority?
[06:44] <Agrajag> erickUbuntu: doesn't that do diagrams and stuff? try dia
[06:45] <intelikey> Aven will gimp not do it for you ?
[06:45] <x86i> nagual: then goto options
[06:45] <Aven> it won't :P
[06:45] <Aven> I tried wine but it's too smart :P
[06:45] <Xenguy> Aven: then pay attention (frankscorner.org)
[06:45] <erickUbuntu> madsen microsoft visio, do the diagram and other network stuff
[06:45] <erickUbuntu> agrajag k i will google it
[06:45] <madsen> erickUbuntu: Uhm, so like an app to draw diagrams - or?
[06:45] <x86i> nagual: then goto View, scroll down and check the box for simple file sharing, then re-do the file share you just did.
[06:45] <lsald> erickUbuntu, kvisio or something like that
[06:45] <DrZeus> hi all; I have an X includes error.  When doing the /configure said it didnt found the "X includes".  What happened?
[06:45] <Xenguy> erickUbuntu: dia instead
[06:46] <madsen> erickUbuntu: dia is great for that
[06:46] <nemik> Xenguy: so if i make a my.cron and crontab my.cron will it always run at the specified times even after i restart? does the crond process start automatically upon startup?
[06:46] <erickUbuntu> k guys thanks i will it
[06:46] <cronik> ok i did wat u tould me to and is unknow
[06:46] <Xenguy> nemik: stop - I think you are confusing two different things :-/
[06:46] <DrZeus> what are the X includes?
[06:47] <Xenguy> nemik: can you be more specific - what do you want to do?
[06:47] <cronik> bob2:
[06:47] <DrZeus> I did /configure for installing a software and told me it didnt found them; the X includes
[06:47] <intelikey> oh multiverse is a big supository  ;/
[06:47] <x86i> lol
[06:47] <lsald> intelikey, ouch
[06:47] <Sionide> repository*
[06:47] <x86i> LOL
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: oh well i think i had a problem with nvidia
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: maybe the kernel
[06:48] <cronik> any one know how i could set up my wirelesscard in my hp 1000?
[06:48] <nemik> xenguy: i want to make a start a process every time i boot up
[06:48] <nagual> x86i: its already checked
[06:48] <sector10> mshade: seems to be ok now
[06:48] <intelikey> errrr re-pository then.....   :)
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: then forget cron...
[06:48] <nemik> xenguy: i also want a cron that will then every hour restart that process
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: concentrate on /etc/init.d
[06:48] <madsen> intelikey: Freudian slip? ;-p
[06:48] <cronik> any one know how i could set up my wirelesscard in my hp 1000?
[06:48] <nemik> but i need both
[06:48] <DrZeus> what are X includes?
[06:48] <Xenguy> nemik: what do you want to start-up at boot?
[06:49] <cafuego> cronik: Depends on what card it is. What does 'lspci' say?
[06:49] <DrZeus> and why a /configure for compiling wouldnt find them?
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: ahh
[06:49] <nemik> Xenguy: yes :)
[06:49] <x86i> nagual: re check it, the only thing I can think of is the sharing info is messed up
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: so two issues
[06:49] <intelikey> no,   pun only.
[06:49] <cronik> tTexas Instruments: Unknown device 8034
[06:49] <cronik> thats wat it saids
[06:49] <Xenguy> nemik: what do you want to start-up at boot?
[06:49] <x86i> nagual: and sadly theres no way to 'repair' windows the easy way
[06:49] <cafuego> cronik: Can you run 'sudo update-pciids' and then run 'lspci' again?
[06:49] <plumpkin> anyone have any experience with the raconfig utility? its used for wireless cards based on the RA2x00 chipset, have a quick question
[06:49] <nemik> xenguy: daemon called smsd
[06:49] <cronik> ok
[06:50] <Xenguy> nemik: hrm I'm not familiar with that
[06:50] <stevenj> is there anyone here that knows about xsession errors?
[06:50] <nemik> xenguy: i can script the my.cron and stuff like that, i did a bit of bashing but just not sure how to initialize/set it up
[06:50] <Xenguy> stevenj: google for the error, typically
[06:50] <cronik> did it
[06:50] <Xenguy> nemik: specifics
[06:50] <cronik> i think it works now
[06:51] <cronik> how can i see if its working?
[06:51] <cafuego> cronik: 'lspci' again.
[06:51] <cronik> i did
[06:51] <cafuego> What did it say this time?
[06:51] <lsald> cronik, that will tell us the card type
[06:51] <intelikey> DrZeus you need to install xorg-devel is what the ./configure is telling you.
[06:51] <cronik> i Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
[06:51] <cronik> its it good?
[06:52] <DrZeus> intelikey, oh
[06:52] <cronik> u think is working now?
[06:52] <nemik> xenguy: so i add my daemon to init.d. then i make a restart_my_daemon.sh and make a my.cron with 00 * * * * * /usr/local/bin/restart_my_daemon.sh in it, then do crontab my.cron. check to see its there with crontab -l and i should be good?
[06:52] <cafuego> cronik: Ok, that's not your wifi card.
[06:52] <lsald> i believe your hp is runnining BCM4306
[06:52] <DrZeus> intelikey, then how can I install that? is it possible with apt-get?
[06:52] <cronik> how do u know
[06:52] <lsald> cronik, google
[06:52] <cafuego> cronik: Coz SD is a media reader.
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> ya
[06:53] <cronik> ooo
[06:53] <cafuego> Notably http://linux-on-laptops.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-55.html
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> and it will never work on linux
[06:53] <Xenguy> nemik: you're still using variables instead of values :-)  I think it is time for bed now
[06:53] <intelikey> only with apt-get  :)
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, they have opened up the specs
[06:53] <cafuego> What, broadcom?
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, and a project is on the way
[06:53] <jbrouhard> Ok
[06:53] <nemik> Xenguy, well i'll give it a shot. thanks for yout help though!
[06:53] <Xenguy> nemik: sounds like you know what you're doing anyway
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> lsald nicee
[06:53] <lsald> cafuego, yep
[06:53] <jbrouhard> Now i have ubuntu on my desktop
[06:53] <cafuego> ooher!
[06:53] <lsald> pppoe_dude, i am on the dev mailing list
[06:53] <pppoe_dude> lsald, coz i got one of them
[06:54] <lsald> pppoe_dude, as do i, in my mac
[06:54] <cafuego> No wonder the airport extreme driver suddently got a bunch of changes :-)
[06:54] <nemik> yea it'll just take some tweaking, makes for a fun weekend :)
[06:54] <intelikey> DrZeus are you sure that what you are trying to compile is not in the ubuntu deb's ?
[06:54] <lsald> cafuego, what do you mean, 'a bunch of changes'
[06:54] <cafuego> cronik: You can probably make that wifi card work right now using 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:55] <DrZeus> intelikey, you mean in the software that came with the CD?
[06:55] <DrZeus> no it doesnt came with it
[06:55] <intelikey> no DrZeus in the repositories
[06:56] <cronik> how?
[06:56] <cronik> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:56] <cronik> is that the right info?
[06:56] <DrZeus> oh; havent checked.  Let me see
[06:56] <intelikey> DrZeus so you can install it with apt-get  and it will work.
[06:57] <cafuego> lsald: https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2005-October/thread.html  <-- they added some fixes halfway through october.
[06:57] <DrZeus> I think not, but will see anyway; who knows
[06:57] <cafuego> lsald: I wasn't aware broadcom had released specs
[06:57] <DrZeus> the software is "wireless assistant"
[06:57] <cronik> thats link is 4 me?
[06:57] <cafuego> cronik: No.
[06:57] <cronik> o
[06:57] <stevenj> Xenguy, I have spent hours doing just that, and still nothing. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9136  my problem is very similer to comment #10 but that is not my post...I am just trying to figure out where to start..no one knows
[06:58] <cafuego> cronik: You need to google for a windows driver for the BCM4318 that you can use with 'ndiswrapper'.
[06:58] <cafuego> cronik: ndiswrapper is a filthy hack that allows you to use the windows driver in the Linux kernel.
[06:58] <sirmixalot> what is the best windows program to write an ubuntu iso?
[06:58] <cronik> damn,how should i type all that info in google
[06:58] <cronik> ooo
[06:59] <cafuego> linux BCM4318 ndiswrapper -> Find
[06:59] <Mabus06> deepburner is free and easy, sirmixalot
[06:59] <nemik> or gnomebaker
[06:59] <intelikey> xcdroast
[07:00] <intelikey> kb3
[07:00] <lsald> cafuego, i'm not sure how long projects like that take, but i know it will be sooner than never...
[07:00] <sirmixalot> becuase nero did not seem to work burnt to cds and they stop insatling ubuntu at two diff times
[07:00] <Mabus06> how do I restore my xorg.conf to its backup?
[07:00] <cafuego> lsald: Yep. Well, the driver as of 2 weeks ago loaded on the mac mini and detected the hardware.
[07:00] <cronik> but i think that is readying the card now
[07:00] <Mabus06> backup is xorg.conf_backup in the same folder
[07:00] <nemik> sirmixalot, i had that problem. get better CD's and try burning at a lower speed
[07:00] <lsald> Mabus06, did you make a backup
[07:01] <Mabus06> yes
[07:01] <iPrank> holy crap
[07:01] <jbrouhard> WTF?
[07:01] <jbrouhard> I should be able to get 1280x1024 resolution here
[07:01] <iPrank> i didnt think ubuntu would be this hard to operate
[07:01] <nemik> just rename the backup to xorg.conf?
[07:01] <cronik> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[07:01] <cronik> it tells me that now
[07:01] <Mabus06> I don't know how, nemik
[07:01] <intelikey> Mabus06 "ls /etc/X11/ "    and see how many backups you have...
[07:01] <Mabus06> I am brand new to linux
[07:02] <cronik> cafuego
[07:02] <iPrank> how do i install shit?
[07:02] <lsald> iPrank, can you be more detailed
[07:02] <intelikey> apt-get install shit
[07:02] <nemik> oops
[07:02] <NsOmNiAc> intelikey : LOL
[07:03] <lsald> intelikey, sudo apt-get install shit ;)
[07:03] <intelikey> :)
[07:03] <iPrank> like the new firefox
[07:03] <DrZeus> intelikey, the software is not in the repositories
[07:03] <jbrouhard> Anyone have an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP card
[07:03] <DrZeus> how can I pull the devel libraries with apt-get?
[07:03] <jbrouhard> and get a better resolution than 1024x768?
[07:03] <cge> DrZeus: sudo apt-get install lib???-dev ?
[07:03] <cafuego> jbrouhard: 1280x8whatever
[07:03] <intelikey> ok DrZeus install the development package for xorg and try the configure again
[07:04] <moquist> I've got problems with some GUI apps going into disk-sleep when I try to open files stored in my NFS-mounted home directory.  lockd and statd are running on both the NFS client and server; anybody have any ideas?
[07:04] <jbrouhard> cafuego, How do I get that resolution?  THe GUI setup won't let me go that high.
[07:04] <moquist> I'm running Breezy, and I didn't have this problem under Hoary.
[07:05] <cafuego> jbrouhard: Mine just picked it up (mac mini with LCD)
[07:05] <moquist> The problem showed up as soon as I upgraded the client to Breezy, and it has persisted even after I upgraded the server as well.
[07:05] <jbrouhard> Oh.. *mutters*
[07:05] <jbrouhard> Now I know why
[07:05] <iPrank> no ideas?
[07:06] <DrZeus> intelikey, then I call it "apt-get install xorg-devel" ?
[07:06] <cafuego> cronik: Ok.
[07:06] <lsald> iPrank, what ?
[07:06] <iPrank> for installinf the new firefox
[07:06] <cge> iPrank: Are you asking specifically about Firefox, or about software in general?
[07:07] <cafuego> cronik: You need to find (on Windows) the files: BCMWL5a.inf and BCMWL5a.sys
[07:07] <iPrank> software in general but i am trying to install the new firefox now
[07:07] <cge> iPrank: You mean 1.5 beta 2?
[07:07] <Parisi> Wireless on Linux is a pain in the ***
[07:07] <DShepherd> iPrank: 1.0.7?
[07:07] <iPrank> yea
[07:07] <RefriedTeacher> Hi, I need some help. I deleted my task bar panel in Gnome and I don't know how to get it back. Any help would be great!
[07:07] <iPrank> 1.5 beta 2
[07:08] <DShepherd> iPrank: If it is not in the repos you have to go to the site and download it
[07:08] <cafuego> Parisi: Only for people that check if the hardware is supported AFTER they hand over the money.
[07:08] <gregf> anyone here know if totem can play .dat files?
[07:08] <DrZeus> Parisi, why? what happened to you?
[07:08] <cafuego> gregf: mv foo.dat foo.mpg; play
[07:08] <iPrank> yea but its not an exe
[07:08] <iPrank> im super noob at linux
[07:09] <cge> iPrank: You could look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:09] <lsald> gregf, i don't think .dat is a media format
[07:09] <gregf> cafuego: thx
[07:09] <DShepherd> cafuego: Kooll
[07:09] <[Spooky] > is it possible to block incoming mails in Evolution ?
[07:09] <tristanmike> RefriedTeacher, the whole panel? right click--add panel?
[07:09] <DShepherd> cafuego: I didnt know you could do that...make sense though
[07:09] <cafuego> gregf: It's off a VCD eh? Just an MPEG1.
[07:09] <Parisi> cafuego,  I have bought stuff that was recommend for linux before, it is not as easy and simple as it sounds, wireless is generally tricky under linux .
[07:09] <gregf> cafuego: yes
[07:09] <DShepherd> iPrank: what the file extension?
[07:09] <cafuego> Parisi: My orinoco cards for instance, "just work".
[07:10] <Parisi> I know because i have an Atheros based wireless card, and its still kinda experimental.
[07:10] <cge> iPrank: But really, you just need to download the package off of mozilla.org, and then extract it. Then run the firefox file in the folder.
[07:10] <DrZeus> Parisi, did u used ndiswrapper, or linuxant?
[07:10] <Parisi> I have used the wrapper for my old Netgear 311v2 based on the acx111
[07:10] <cafuego> Parisi: Yes, but then afetr checking driver status I would _not_ buy an atheros card.
[07:10] <jbrouhard> Nite..
[07:10] <Parisi> cafuego, The atheros is what its hot these days.
[07:10] <DrZeus> thats true
[07:10] <cafuego> Parisi: the acx100 driver is just about starting to work properly for those (I got one too)
[07:11] <Parisi> It works beatifuly under Freebsd.
[07:11] <cafuego> Parisi: If it doesn't work properly, it's shite, not hot.
[07:11] <intelikey> hot as in advertized ?
[07:11] <Parisi> cafuego, I beg to difer.
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: you can just extract it and run it from the folder
[07:11] <iPrank> nothing happens when i run it
[07:11] <RefriedTeacher> Right click add to panel wont do it. That just allows you to add to an exsisting panel.
[07:11] <Parisi> No seriusly.
[07:11] <Parisi> Seriously*
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: what do you mean?
[07:11] <DShepherd> iPrank: have you extracted it from the compressed format
[07:12] <tristanmike> RefriedTeacher, right click--new panel?
[07:12] <Parisi> DrZeus, What chipset do you have?
[07:12] <iPrank> yea
[07:12] <DShepherd> iPrank: and you see the folder?
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> I can't get to the breezy backports
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <tarheelcoxn> gives me a 404
[07:12] <iPrank> yea
[07:13] <DShepherd> iPrank: and you double click firefox
[07:13] <DShepherd> ?
[07:13] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, It does not exist yet.
[07:13] <Mabus06> my xserver-xorg is not installed right
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> o.0
[07:13] <Mabus06> how do I fix it?
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> kevogod: just nixthe us. then?
[07:13] <tritium> Mabus06, how is it not installed right?
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> err
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> s/nixthe/nix the/
[07:13] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, No. Backports for Breezy has not been created yet.
[07:13] <Mabus06> won't load, trip
[07:13] <tarheelcoxn> ahhhhhhh
[07:13] <Mabus06> tritium i mean
[07:14] <tritium> Mabus06, you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:14] <iPrank> yea
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> I should really be on a mailing list or something
[07:14] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[07:14] <Mabus06> no, tritium
[07:14] <DShepherd> iPrank: and nothing?
[07:14] <tritium> you should also look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Mabus06
[07:14] <Mabus06> it says it's not properly installed
[07:14] <intelikey> this is crazy  apt dosemu  says "After unpacking 65.2MB of additional disk space will be used."   that's just nuts.
[07:14] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, The document writers have no control over backports. There was going to be a note saying it would not be available initially, but it was removed.
[07:14] <iPrank> then it gives me a "run" "run in terminal" and some other options
[07:14] <Bharath> pppoe_dude, u there dude
[07:15] <tritium> Mabus06, "won't load" doesn't convey that to me.  Please be more specific.
[07:15] <kevogod> tarheelcoxn, The notice will be on Dapper Drake documentation according to one of the document writers.
[07:15] <tarheelcoxn> kevogod: thanks for straightening me out
[07:15] <intelikey> i'll run dos off a floppy first......
[07:15] <DShepherd> iPrank: click run
[07:15] <iPrank> nothing happens
[07:15] <Bharath> anyone else can help me setup my wireless card
[07:15] <sts_> HI
[07:15] <DrZeus> Parisi, Im using an INPROCOMM card
[07:15] <cge> iPrank: wait about 30 seconds or so.
[07:16] <sts_> KKKKKK
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI
[07:16] <sts_> HI\
[07:16] <iPrank> i have
[07:16] <DrZeus> Parisi, I used ndiswrapper and it worked just fine
[07:16] <iPrank> about 4 times now
[07:16] <tritium> sts_, don't do that
[07:16] <Mabus06> I don't know specifically why, tritium. I'm quite new to linux
[07:16] <tritium> Mabus06, what errors are you seeing, and where?
[07:16] <DShepherd> iPrank: I downloaded it and ran it and it launches fine for me
[07:17] <Bharath> how to get ndiswrapper
[07:17] <yi> how do you guys usually go about updating software that's already available as a package?
[07:17] <sts_> SORRY
[07:17] <DShepherd> iPrank: you have 1.0.7 opened?
[07:17] <yi> is there a guide somewhere on how to make .deb's ?
[07:17] <tritium> yi, the Debian New Maintainer's Guide is helpful
[07:17] <sts_> MAY I KNOW YOU?
[07:17] <iPrank> no
[07:18] <Bharath> tritium,
[07:18] <Parisi> DrZeus, Cool, i just stick with wired, its a desktop either way.
[07:18] <sts_> YES
[07:18] <Mabus06> one second tritium
[07:18] <yi> tritium: ok, thanks
[07:18] <DShepherd> iPrank: that's strange
[07:18] <cge> iPrank: You might want to go into the system monitor and make sure that firefox-bin isn't running.
[07:18] <sts_> DONT QUIT!
[07:18] <tristanmike> sts_, please stop using caps, it looks like you're yelling, thanx :)
[07:18] <tarheelcoxn> I think it's a bot