[00:00] <wols_> Mariorockspants: yes
[00:00] <Mariorockspants> would ubuntu work on a desktop with 1TB of ram and a 3.0 ghz processor?
[00:00] <spankbot> Mariorockspants: and bugs too
[00:01] <exutux> yeah most ubuntuusers are ubuntuviruses
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> spankbot: did you gracefully remove the device?
[00:01] <spankbot> with grace
[00:01] <willystylee> @exutux i did the command, it broght me to "GNU nano 2.2.2" what do i do from there how do i edit?
[00:02] <TGRx00FFc92> There is already system boards that support one Terabyte of RAM already?
[00:02] <TGRx00FFc92> Technology is moving way to fast...
[00:02] <exutux> willystylee: I don't know what you need modify at GRUB
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> TGRx00FFc92: I've seen one supporting 128Gb
[00:02] <joint> ubuntu is taking over windows 8
[00:02] <willystylee> i need to do the 'nomodeset' thing permanently
[00:03] <exutux> willystylee: you ask how edit grub from console
[00:03] <willystylee> my monitor was powering off after boot
[00:03] <spankbot> ActionParsnip plugged it back in and Rythm still shows the playlist and music.. if I nav the file system ipod/ipod_control/Music/*  there are several directories like "f22, f23, f24...." and all have MP3s, I'm looking at the entire Slayer album, South of Heaven as we chat.
[00:03] <exutux> willystylee: after "quiet splash nomodeset"
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> TGRx00FFc92: http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=MB&pid=670&SKU=600000180    512Gb RAM
[00:03] <willystylee> ok but im in this strange screen thing no longer terminal "GNU nano 2.2.2"
[00:03] <MicrosoftForTheW> will i get kicked if i spam?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> spankbot: thats all I can suggest. I don't buy apple rubbish
[00:04] <willystylee> it jsut shows blank in them iddle then "new file" nad a bunch of other keys to press
[00:04] <MicrosoftForTheW>
[00:04] <MicrosoftForTheW>
[00:04] <MicrosoftForTheW>
[00:04] <FloodBot1> MicrosoftForTheW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <exutux> willystylee: it's an editor, can tou see GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" there?
[00:04] <faint545> willystylee, your in a text editor?
[00:04] <Mariorockspants> what the
[00:05] <willystylee> @faint it shows nothing in the editor the cursor is just blinking at the top
[00:05] <willystylee> i think
[00:05] <exutux> willystylee: ok so you have wrong file name
[00:05] <faint545> willystylee, you are trying to edit grub? right?
[00:05] <exutux> willystylee: nano /etc/default/grub
[00:06] <willystylee> i did nano /etc/default/grub
[00:06] <willystylee> yeah
[00:06] <faint545> willystylee, what is it that you are trying to accomplish?
[00:06] <Mariorockspants> I'm going bye
[00:06] <willystylee> it shows that open, but theres no text it seems blank
[00:06] <tfdev> if i have an integrated audio card on a discontinued laptop, would it be identified with the same name as the "chipset"?
[00:06] <resno> im trying to mount a smb connection and im getting a weird error msg.
[00:06] <Eryn_1983_FL> test
[00:06] <exutux> faint545: add nomodeset in grub
[00:06] <willystylee> i want to permanently do the 'nomodeset' thing because my monitor goes when grub loads up
[00:07] <resno> i get the following: http://dpaste.com/577842/ when i try to mount a smb connection
[00:07] <willystylee> im on the temporary boot
[00:07] <exutux> willystylee: ctrl X and close that file
[00:08] <faint545> ah... i dont see how you dont have a grub file..
[00:08] <willystylee> wont it reboot? will i have to hold shift and add nomodeset to the boot line for another temporary boot?
[00:08] <gueriLLaPunK> I have 9.10 and was wondering why copy and paste doesn't work? I can't copy and paste text from the viewer to the server and vise versa.
[00:08] <gueriLLaPunK> RealVNC viewer on Windows 7
[00:08] <faint545> resno, install smbfs
[00:08] <ciss> willystylee: that your first server? or just ubuntu server?
[00:08] <exutux> willystylee: ls    /etc/default/grub says something?
[00:09] <tfdev> I just installed natty and im a first time linux user. I want to install the proper audio files but cant find the specific info on my laptop. can anyone help?
[00:09] <resno> faint545: i already did... didnt i see you earlier?
[00:09] <tfdev> audio drivers*
[00:09] <faint545> @resno no, sorry.
[00:09] <resno> faint545: i already installed that though
[00:09] <faint545> @resno how are you typing in the command?
[00:10] <resno> faint545:  mount -t cifs -o guest //<IP_ADDRESS>/music /media/music/
[00:10] <faint545> @resno, you are tryig to mount a smb share? you should use smb as the type not cifs
[00:10] <daviddoria> how do I get glx to work without an nvidia or ati card (it is just onboard video on the motherboard)?
[00:11] <cattarhine> I always thought SMB and CIFS were pretty much the same thing?
[00:11] <resno> faint545: mount: unknown filesystem type 'smb'
[00:11] <faint545> @resno, err use smbfs
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> tfdev: can you expand "proper audio files" please
[00:11] <faint545> @resno, not smb. sorry
[00:12] <resno> faint545: new error http://dpaste.com/577846/
[00:12] <spankbot> Anyone running Ubuntu on a Laptop with a NVidia card and NVidia drivers have the issue where your logged off after 3-4 minutes if there is no power supply connected?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> tfdev: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:14] <faint545> @resno... try this.... sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/music /media/music/ -o user=guest
[00:14] <exutux> night all
[00:14] <willystylee> @exetux i did ls /etc/default/grub and it just showed the command i did when i pressed enter and thats it
[00:15] <gogeta> resno: if your mounting a windows share windows firewall will block it
[00:15] <resno> gogeta: ubuntu to ubuntu
[00:15] <exutux> willystylee: it return /etc/default/grub down the prompt?
[00:15] <willystylee> err, it just showed /etc/default/grub
[00:15] <faint545> @resno i believe it it should be username not user.
[00:15] <willystylee> yes
[00:15] <exutux> willystylee: so  nano   /etc/default/grub
[00:16] <willystylee> ?
[00:16] <exutux> willystylee: type  nano  /etc/default/grub
[00:16] <willystylee> ok
[00:16] <willystylee> with those amount of spaces?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> exutux: user will need to use sudo to get write access
[00:16] <exutux> ActionParsnip: he's in recovery
[00:17] <SuperMarioRocks> :(
[00:17] <SuperMarioRocks> :P
[00:17] <resno> faint545: it keeps requesting a password.. even though there is none
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> exutux: cool, just covering the bases :)
[00:17] <rww> SuperMarioRocks: I hope that answers your question.
[00:17] <willystylee> strange
[00:17] <SuperMarioRocks> help
[00:17] <spankbot> I'm feeling the room spin when it comes to NVidia drivers
[00:17] <willystylee> it shows the text now exutux
[00:17] <exutux> if I understand right, he said that he's in single
[00:17] <faint545> @resno, just it enter for an empty password
[00:17] <gogeta> exutux: he should be able to reset his menu just by doing update-grub2
[00:17] <bjornerikk> hey guys! when I restart my computer the touchpad is crazy (cursor jumping around), and the only thing that fixes it is "modprobe -r psmouse" and then "modprobe psmouse". Why does that help?
[00:18] <SuperMarioRocks> rww: What are you talking about?
[00:18] <rww> SuperMarioRocks: 00:03 < MicrosoftForTheW> will i get kicked if i spam?
[00:18] <SitFly> Hi, my laptop won't connect to my android's 3g wireless network. I have no clue where to begin to fix this problem
[00:18] <exutux> gogeta: good point
[00:18] <exutux> gogeta: you right
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> bjornerikk: it reloads the driver. I recommend you add that in /etc/rc.local so that it runs at boot
[00:19] <exutux> willystylee: do you have nomodeset now in that file?
[00:19] <dr_willis> SitFly:  has it ever worked?
[00:19] <willystylee> @exutux: ok i put nomodeset in there yea
[00:19] <bjornerikk> ActionParsnip: I will do that, very good idea. Do you have a clue why it needs to be reloaded?
[00:19] <willystylee> but how do i save it?
[00:19] <SuperMarioRocks> what is the sudo command for?
[00:19] <SitFly> dr_willis: no
[00:19] <rww> !sudo > SuperMarioRocks
[00:19] <exutux> willystylee: ctrl X
[00:19] <willystylee> ok ty
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> bjornerikk: justneeds to be done for some hardware
[00:19] <resno> faint545: get the same error
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> SitFly: http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2009/08/28/tethering-an-android-phone-to-ubuntu-without-jailbreaking-or-installing-applications
[00:19] <exutux> willystylee: and Y and enter
[00:20] <willystylee> it says "file name to write"
[00:20] <bjornerikk> ActionParsnip: Okey, thats odd, thanks a bunch though
[00:20] <willystylee> then more options
[00:20] <alex--> Which webhosting control panel do you guys recommend for a nas?
[00:20] <exutux> willystylee: so read!
[00:20] <nnull> why when i copy  files i get error splicing files, file too large
[00:20] <willystylee> lool
[00:20] <exutux> willystylee: confirm
[00:20] <faint545> @resno, can u give me the link to the error again?
[00:20] <exutux> and YES
[00:20] <rww> nnull: are you copying them to a FAT32 partition?
[00:20] <willystylee> append?
[00:21] <notNicolas> Hi. I have ubuntu on a 40 gig partition, and there is a swap partition right after it
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> msg ubottu !nomodeset
[00:21] <resno> faint545: http://dpaste.com/577857/
[00:21] <notNicolas> I'd like to expand the size of my partition, but I can't because of that swap being in the way of having a continuous block of data
[00:21] <SitFly> ActionParsnip: with this method, do I need to pay for the tethering feature still?
[00:21] <nnull> rww: i am
[00:21] <notNicolas> is there a solution to this problem? (moving around the swap partition)
[00:21] <rww> nnull: That would probably be why. FAT32 has a per-file size limit of 4GB.
[00:22] <nnull> oh soab
[00:22] <nnull> thx for the heads up rww.
[00:22] <rww> welcome
[00:22] <willystylee> exutux i just pressed enter and it says [error writing /etc/default/grub: permission denied]
[00:22] <dr_willis> SitFly:  if you were paying for the teathering.. it should just work...
[00:22] <dr_willis> SitFly:  theres the #android channel also.
[00:22] <exutux> willystylee: Oh Gosh you didn't  was ina recovery mode??
[00:23] <willystylee> huh?
[00:23] <exutux> willystylee: ok ctrl C
[00:23] <SitFly> dr_willis: thank you
[00:23] <willystylee> i didnt go into recovery mode
[00:23] <resno> faint545: i tried to figure this out yesterday... but couldnt figure it out.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> SitFly: no, it will just be routed through
[00:24] <exutux> willystylee: ok exit from that file and retype  sudo nano  /etc/default/grub
[00:24] <ctmjr> resno, just a guess but make sure you have the cifs-utils package installed
[00:25] <exutux> willystylee: ctrl X and N
[00:25] <matlock> so i have an sdhc card that mounts as read only
[00:25] <matlock> i can't fdisk it cause it's read only
[00:25] <delac> I can't find the Adobe Flash Local Settings Manager from System -> Preferences even though I have flash 10.3. Any way to get it there? Is there a command to start it from terminal?
[00:26] <matlock> Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/mmcblk0p1: Read-only file system
[00:26] <willystylee> ok
[00:26] <matlock> HELP
[00:26] <alex--> Which webhosting control panel do you guys recommend for a nas?
[00:26] <dr_willis> matlock:  You did check the little write protect switch on it?
[00:26] <dr_willis> matlock:  ive seen cards go 'bad' and become read only.
[00:26] <matlock> yes i checked the little write protect switch
[00:26] <resno> ctmjr: i dont see it in my repos... is it custom?
[00:26] <exutux> willystylee: btw
[00:26] <exutux> 01:55 < willystylee> yes, i did that, i am in my single boot with the  nomodeset added, i want to set it permanent
[00:26] <dr_willis> matlock:  flick the switch a few times.. it may start working.. it may noit.
[00:26] <matlock> dr_willis, if i mount -o remount -o rw /dev/mmcblk0p1
[00:26] <matlock> it works
[00:27] <exutux> single for me is recovery or root prommpt
[00:27] <dr_willis> matlock:  thats odd.
[00:27] <ctmjr> !info cifs-utils
[00:27] <matlock> so it's not the switch
[00:27] <faint545> resno, you are running whch version of ubuntu
[00:27] <exutux> willystylee: ok now  sudo  nano /etc/default/grub
[00:28] <SuperMarioRocks> what is etc?
[00:28] <rww> SuperMarioRocks: a directory for storing configuration files
[00:28] <exutux> willystylee: put nomodeset again "quiet splash nomodeset" then press CTRL X then press Y to save
[00:28] <dr_willis> SuperMarioRocks:  you mean /etc/ ?
[00:28] <willystylee> exutux: ok i did that and saved it
[00:28] <willystylee> yeah
[00:28] <resno> faint545: 10.04.3 LTS
[00:28] <exutux> willystylee: ok now sudo update-grub
[00:28] <SuperMarioRocks> rww: Thanks
[00:28] <willystylee> and it still turns off the monitor when grub loads
[00:28] <faint545> resno, sudo apt-cache search cifs-utils | grep cifs-utils
[00:28] <willystylee> ah crap
[00:28] <exutux> -.-
[00:29] <faint545> resno, does that show you anything?
[00:29] <resno> faint545: turned up nothing
[00:29] <dr_willis> willystylee:  with  Grub on some pcs here. I have to enable its low-res text menu mode. or it tries to go 'out of range' of the cheap monitor i have.
[00:29] <faint545> @resno really?
[00:29] <exutux> willystylee: you need to update grub after modifies
[00:29] <resno> faint545: yea, its a openvz container... maybe thats why?
[00:29] <dr_willis> willystylee:  heres my /etc/default/grub  http://paste.ubuntu.com/652066/  for an example
[00:30] <faint545> @resno, well type "man mount.cifs"
[00:30] <faint545> @resno and see if the manual page comes up
[00:30] <matlock> dr_willis,   http://pastebin.com/4Vu2Lnqg
[00:30] <resno> faint545: yep..
[00:31] <exutux> willystylee: you need just type sudo update-grub now
[00:32] <exutux> sudo update-grub    without now :p
[00:32] <willystylee> ok exetux i just updated grub
[00:33] <exutux> willystylee: ok sudo reboot now
[00:33] <exutux> always without now hehehe
[00:34] <quellhorst> anyone know much about pxe installing? I want a custom install for each system booting via pxe
[00:34] <willystylee> lool
[00:34] <willystylee> i used now at the end of the first one
[00:34] <willystylee> hahah
[00:34] <TBotNik> exutux: Do I use head or tail on the syslog?  Can not remember what order it is in?
[00:34] <exutux> lol
[00:34] <willystylee> worked still tho
[00:34] <faint545> @resno... you say you are running Ubuntu inside of OPENVZ?
[00:34] <willystylee> win!
[00:34] <willystylee> it stayed
[00:34] <willystylee> thanks man :)
[00:34] <resno> faint545: yes
[00:34] <faint545> @resno, this will answer your question: http://forum.openvz.org/index.php?t=msg&goto=4994&
[00:34] <exutux> TBotNik: both
[00:35] <resno> faint545: oh....
[00:35] <faint545> @resno, evidently SMBFS cannot be used inside VE
[00:35] <exutux> TBotNik: tail -f /var/log/syslog for follow it when changes
[00:35] <faint545> @resno, however there are workarounds on that page i believe
[00:36] <exutux> TBotNik: tail -n 20 for last 20 rows and so on
[00:36] <resno> faint545: thanks. ill look into them
[00:36] <exutux> TBotNik: or less for read all!
[00:36] <matlock> anyone know how I can fix my SDHC so i can partition it??   >> related http://pastebin.com/FgBg2XeG
[00:36] <delac> does anyone have the System > Preferences > Adobe Flash Player? What is the command line command that starts that settings manager?
[00:36] <faint545> @resno, np. I prolly wont be able to help you any further since  i have no experience with openvz
[00:36] <exutux> willystylee: np sir :p
[00:37] <resno> faint545: thats quite alright, i didnt expect openvz to cause the problem
[00:37] <resno> faint545: i figured i wdidnt know how to do it
[00:37] <HelloWorld321> I've installed sun-java-6, but I can't make it the default (http://pastebin.com/Ne9jXLRA) any tips?
[00:38] <matlock> no one knows how to fix ubuntu's issue reading dirty sdhc cards?
[00:38] <alex--> !webmin | alex--
[00:39] <alex--> !virtualmin | alex--
[00:39] <matlock> or can someone tell me how to pass my sdhc card to virtualbox so i can try formatting it in windows?
[00:39] <dr_willis> alex--:  you still reminding yoruself about webmin?
[00:39] <dr_willis> alex--:    :)
[00:40] <rww> matlock: in line 9, you hosed the filesystem on /dev/mmcblk0p1. run mkfs.ext4.
[00:40] <TBotNik> exutux: Added the last 20 of the syslog to PB: http://pastebin.com/zJkAAuV6
[00:40] <gogeta> matlock: it would peobly be under usb devices in virtual box
[00:40] <rww> matlock: (which will make a new one)
[00:40] <alex--> dr_willis: i wanted the quote for someone else, but actually: yes
[00:40] <rww> matlock: (I'm hoping you didn't have data on there you're fond of)
[00:40] <matlock> /dev/mmcblk1: Read-only file system while setting up superblock
[00:40] <matlock> no
[00:41] <matlock> i was trying to fdisk it and it said i can't write to the disk
[00:41] <matlock> which is why i fsck while it was open
[00:41] <rww> matlock: Obvious question: is the write-protect tab on the SD card set?
[00:41] <matlock> so it would mark it clean and ubuntu would quit marking it as dirty
[00:41] <bencc> is there a way I can make ubuntu ask my router to assign a ipv6 instead ipv4?
[00:41] <matlock> rww, you read my pastebin?
[00:41] <rww> matlock: yes
[00:41] <matlock> rww, figure for yourself whether or not the write protect is on or not
[00:41] <gogeta> bencc: thats your roughter settings not ubuntus
[00:41] <exutux> TBotNik: DHCPOFFER of <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS> who is that .1?
[00:41] <Blue1> bencc: depends on 2 things - software in the router, and whether isp offers ipv6
[00:42] <gogeta> bencc: ubuntu just ask for a ip
[00:42] <matlock> rww, if write protect was On i wouldn't be able to copy that file to the sdhc in the last few steps
[00:42] <matlock> again  /dev/mmcblk1: Read-only file system while setting up superblock
[00:42] <bencc> Blue1: if the router is getting ipv4 from the isp, can't it provide ipv6 for ubuntu?
[00:42] <rww> matlock: ah, true.
[00:43] <matlock> so it's the driver marking the sdhc as read only because it wasn't cleanly ejected
[00:43] <gogeta> bencc: i gues if you tell it to hand out ipv6 localy yes
[00:43] <matlock> now if I could only bypass the drivers mark enough to repartition it.
[00:43] <Blue1> bencc: this is a question the isp must answer - cox for instance does NOT currently provide ipv6
[00:43] <edbian> bencc: In theory, it could provide whatever address scheme it wants inside.  The real question is, does your router support ipv6 addressing at all?
[00:43] <matlock> OR pass it to windows in my VM
[00:43] <TBotNik> exutux: Sorry to confuse you that was from before I disconnected the WRT router, since it was sending those confusing IPs.
[00:43] <rww> bencc: yes, it can
[00:43] <gogeta> bencc: but you relly dont need it
[00:43] <exutux> TBotNik: lol
[00:43] <TBotNik> Posting new config
[00:44] <yellowgto> Hey
[00:44] <rww> bencc: or... hrm, maybe I'm applying IPv4 thought to IPv6. never mind me.
[00:44] <raj> does Linux have Calibri as a font?
[00:44] <exutux> TBotNik: I have to go now
[00:44] <yellowgto> I booted up went into recovery then dropped down into root mode
[00:44] <exutux> sorry
[00:44] <yellowgto> But I can't login?
[00:44] <yellowgto> My normal username and password don't work
[00:44] <bencc> gogeta: I need to test ipv6 clients against a server
[00:44] <TBotNik> exutux: Thanks 4 your hlep, I at least now have the right IP range out there.
[00:45] <joint> how come everybody just doesnt run windows?
[00:45] <gogeta> bencc: well then you tell the roughter to hand out local ipv6 adresses if it supports it
[00:45] <SuperMarioRocks> how many people use ubuntu linux?
[00:45] <gogeta> SuperMarioRocks: alot
[00:45] <TBotNik> yellowgto: Did you boot from liveCD?
[00:45] <yellowgto> I'm trying to get to int3
[00:45] <yellowgto> No
[00:45] <matlock> can anyone walk me through fixing my sdhc?   THE WRITE PROTECT SWITCH IS NOT ON but it's mounted as read only
[00:45] <yellowgto> My Ubuntu works fine
[00:45] <rww> SuperMarioRocks: Canonical alleges 12 million as of April 2010. I don't know of a more recent number.
[00:45] <yellowgto> But I need to drop down into init3 mode to install some drivers
[00:46] <bencc> gogeta: checking if my linksys support it
[00:46] <rww> joint: Feel free to ask #ubuntu-offtopic; that's more of an opinion question than something we can answer.
[00:46] <javier> e
[00:46] <TBotNik> yellowgto: If you do you can run the chroot and edit the passwrds file and change the root.
[00:46] <yellowgto> Do you know where the password file lives?
[00:46] <TBotNik> yellowgto: There are HOWTOs on that, forgot where.  You can look or I can.
[00:47] <SuperMarioRocks> I have ubuntu 11.04 on a cd  if i wait to next year to install ubuntu 11.04 will i get gnome3 with it or  the gnome version that ubuntu 11.04 comes with?
[00:47] <yellowgto> I've been looking
[00:47] <rww> yellowgto: I hate to ask annoying questions, but which drivers?
[00:47] <yellowgto> Says to hit ctl - alt - backspace
[00:47] <yellowgto> But that doesn't seem to work
[00:47] <yellowgto> Newest Nvidia driver RWW
[00:47] <gogeta> SuperMarioRocks: there is a gnome 3 remix
[00:47] <joint> probably the gnome version 11.04 comes with
[00:47] <rww> yellowgto: 1) installing nvidia from outside of the package management interface is a bad idea. 2) ctrl-alt-f1, log in, run sudo service gdm stop (or kdm if you're using Kubuntu).
[00:47] <SuperMarioRocks> but would i get gnome 3 with it if i install next year?
[00:48] <gogeta> SuperMarioRocks: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/
[00:48] <rww> SuperMarioRocks: You'll get the version of GNOME that Ubuntu 11.04 comes with.
[00:48] <joint> i doubt it
[00:48] <yellowgto> 11.04 has a bug
[00:48] <yellowgto> Where it wont let you activate drivers
[00:48] <G00053> yellowgto: 3si ?
[00:48] <joint> thats like getting unity with 10.04
[00:48] <TBotNik> yellowgto: ctl - alt - backspace is restart for gnome, not system, so will not reload your passwords file.
[00:49] <gogeta> 11.10 ubutnu will only have unity and a 2d unity
[00:49] <gogeta> no gnome 3
[00:49] <yellowgto> 3si?
[00:49] <joint> 11.10 will have gnome 3
[00:49] <yellowgto> Gnome3 blows
[00:49] <yellowgto> So it doesn't matter
[00:49] <rbnswartz> gogeta Gnome 3 will be in the repository
[00:49] <yellowgto> LoL
[00:49] <yellowgto> ;-)
[00:49] <rww> gogeta: Considering that Unity is a shell on top of GNOME, that isn't a sensical statement. Ubuntu oneiric uses GNOME 3 and has GNOME Shell in the repositories.
[00:49] <FloodBot1> yellowgto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <joint> at least according to the alphas
[00:49] <graphicscardhelp> How would I go about updating my graphics card?
[00:49] <gogeta> rbnswartz: yes its in it now if you whant it
[00:49] <G00053> yellowgto: is it a pontiac or a mitsu
[00:50] <yellowgto> Pontiac
[00:50] <gogeta> rbnswartz: talking defults
[00:50] <G00053> dang
[00:50] <yellowgto> Newer body
[00:50] <rww> gogeta: GNOME 3 is not in 11.04's repositories.
[00:50] <gogeta> rww: well get the ppa then
[00:50] <rbnswartz> rww it will be in 11.10
[00:50] <joint> in the latest alpha for 11.10 gnome 3 is a choice at boot up. but it doesnt work yet
[00:50] <rww> rbnswartz: I'm aware, I just said that.
[00:50] <rww> gogeta: I'm not talking about the PPA, I'm talking about Ubuntu itself.
[00:50] <rbnswartz> rww my bad :)
[00:50] <yellowgto> So that only way to get out of xserver is to change my root password :-/
[00:50] <edbian> joint: I just read on /. that the boot time is even faster!
[00:50] <yellowgto> ?
[00:51] <rww> yellowgto: No, I just told you how to get out of Xorg.
[00:51] <gogeta> rww: so did they acully switch to wayland or they still xorg
[00:51] <rww> gogeta: Xorg
[00:51] <dr_willis> wayland is still a work in progress...
[00:51] <gogeta> heh
[00:51] <rww> gogeta: as sabdfl said at the time, Wayland is a while off
[00:51] <dr_willis> long while off i imagine.
[00:51] <gogeta> rww: yea but they where claming it to 11.10
[00:52] <edbian> Writing a graphics server has got to be a huge projec.t
[00:52] <rww> gogeta: I didn't see sabdfl or anyone "official" say that.
[00:52] <javier> ls
[00:53] <rww> gogeta: But then, it wouldn't surprise me if they never switch. Wayland isn't stable enough and the proprietary vendor support isn't there.
[00:53] <Pin> Hey guys I have Ubuntu 11.04 when tryin to logon using my ubuntu starts up but i only see my desktop icons and wallpaper, however when i used Ubuntu classic everythign loads up fine.
[00:53] <gogeta> rww: cannel was claing to switch to it with 11.10 i guess the idea got trashed
[00:54] <gogeta> rww: good thing as you said its still to early
[00:54] <rww> gogeta: Again, I didn't see anyone official say Ubuntu would switch to it with 11.10. And I was paying attention :P
[00:54] <rbnswartz> Pin In your Ubuntu classic are you able to enable the compiz visual effects?
[00:54] <Pin> yes
[00:54] <rww> What we actually say and what the blogosphere repeats in its echo chamber are two rather different things.
[00:55] <graphicscardhelp> How would I go about updating my graphics card?
[00:55] <Pin> I have desktop cube , desktop rotate etc
[00:55] <gogeta> rww: it was like 6 motnhs ago
[00:55] <gogeta> rww: shortly after 11.04
[00:55] <joint> dont mess with the graphic card drivers
[00:55] <rww> gogeta: I don't think this conversation is going anywhere if you don't have a link :P
[00:55] <rbnswartz> Pin Try hitting Ctrl+Alt+T and then type compiz --replace
[00:55] <joint> just install the ones that come with the distro
[00:55] <gogeta> rww: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52655/is-wayland-coming-to-ubuntu-oneric
[00:56] <Pin> ok be right back going to login to unity and try it, im on classic right now
[00:56] <Pin> be right back
[00:56] <rww> gogeta: A random askubuntu thread by people I haven't heard of alleging the same thing you're saying isn't really reliable.
[00:56] <bel> ...
[00:56] <gogeta> rww: it was also in a  las ep with a ubuntu dev talking abought it
[00:57] <gogeta> rww: ill find the video if you whant to see it
[00:57] <rww> gogeta: I don't do video, but a transcription would be useful.
[00:57] <gogeta> rww: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
[00:57] <graphicscardhelp> joint, the one that came with the distro isn't working too well with 11.04 natty... Its all glitchy as hell.
[00:58] <rww> gogeta: I've read that. Where does it say anything about Ubuntu 11.10?
[00:58] <joint> 11.04 is glithchy by nature
[00:58] <joint> if you mess up with updating drivers, you can screw your whole system
[00:58] <gogeta> rww: well no big deal it ddint happon
[00:59] <Chaorain> I'm trying to get an IR blaster working on 10.04 and I need to upgrade LIRC, Little help?
[00:59] <joint> 11.10 will be better
[00:59] <Seven_Six_Two> I want to try 11.10. Would you recommend alpha2 or the daily build?
[00:59] <Pin> ok I tried ctrl + alt + T but nothing happened
[00:59] <joint> naa. i would wait
[00:59] <rww> Seven_Six_Two: ask #ubuntu+1
[00:59] <Pin> no terminal came up at all
[01:00] <Seven_Six_Two> rww, of course. I forgot. Thanks
[01:00] <joint> no sence in running a beta linux distro. they have a new final one every 6 months
[01:00] <rbnswartz> Pin Sorry that is about all I have for you someone else might be able to help. Or try askubuntu.com.
[01:01] <yellowgto> Aight back
[01:01] <joint> updated video drivers should be in 11.10 i would assume
[01:01] <faint545> Pin, what is your problem?
[01:01] <Pin> ok
[01:01] <joint> you can try to upgrade the video drivers, but its hard. u have to read a lot
[01:01] <Pin> Hey guys I have Ubuntu 11.04 when tryin to logon using my ubuntu starts up but i only see my desktop icons and wallpaper, however when i used Ubuntu classic everythign loads up fine. How do i fix my ubuntu
[01:01] <joint> they should just make the video drivers so u can just add a ppa or something
[01:02] <delac> Pin: have you been playing with the compizconfig settings manager? maybe accidentaly unchecked the unity plugin?
[01:02] <Pin> I tried doing ctrl + alt + T under unity and it didnt load up any console
[01:02] <Pin> Yea it got messed up thru compiz
[01:02] <delac> can you alt-f2?
[01:02] <Pin> i havent tried that
[01:03] <Pin> What do you want me to type when i Alt + f2 under unity?
[01:03] <delac> Pin: try to start the compizconfig settings manager
[01:03] <Pin> ok be right back going to log out and goto unity
[01:03] <Pin> im in ubuntu classic at the moment be right back
[01:03] <joint> dont worry about that bug that says the video driver is activated, but currently not in use
[01:03] <joint> its working if u have the unity interface
[01:05] <faint545> I for one am not fan of the Unity interface at alllllll. why did they change it anyway?
[01:06] <edbian> faint545: They were not fans of the gnome3 interface
[01:06] <faint545> so it was either that or unity?
[01:06] <Chaorain> Is the 11.10 Alpha 2 any more stable than 11.04?
[01:06] <edbian> faint545: They're trying to have an OS that works well on different form factors
[01:06] <joint> so they can use it to push software
[01:07] <edbian> faint545: well when they made the decision unity didn't exist.  It was gnome3 or 'we build something else'
[01:07] <joint> unity is tied in the software center
[01:07] <faint545> edbian, what do you mean by "an OS that works well on different form factors"
[01:08] <dr_willis> Tablet/netbook/desktop/laptop/phone/pocketwatch/cybernetic implant
[01:08] <Pin> ok i was somehow able to make a launcher for my IRC, im back im not in ubuntu classic now. I have terminal open, what do i type?
[01:08] <edbian> faint545: what dr_willis said.  Those are examples of different form factors
[01:08] <faint545> ohhhhh. okay.
[01:08] <delac> Pin: were you able to start the compizconfig settings manager?
[01:08] <Pin> no , how do i start it
[01:09] <dr_willis> Im so used to how android works on my phone and tablet.. :) unity just seems awkward on them
[01:09] <faint545> cybernetic implant??
[01:09] <meomic> hey, i need to write some script, - i am a cpp programist, - never used bash before - ive found out already some but i cant find what is the equivalent of the if( abcd < 1 || abcda < 1) im talking about || operator - the -ls i already found out lol
[01:09] <induz> #
[01:09] <WhyHelloThere> hi guys I'm getting the following error: "timeout: down: /etc/service/redis_default: 1s, normally up, want up" when I try to run "sudo /usr/bin/chpst -u root /usr/bin/sv restart /etc/service/redis_default"
[01:09] <dr_willis> meomic:  check that advanced bash scripting guide. it has examples
[01:09] <dr_willis> !abs | meomic
[01:10] <meomic> oke thank you guys
[01:10] <delac> Pin: run "ccsm"
[01:10] <joint> i think u can put gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[01:10] <Pin> yay
[01:10] <Pin> I got it working again
[01:10] <Pin> Thanks!
[01:10] <Pin> :D
[01:10] <FloodBot1> Pin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <edbian> Pin: ha, you're too excited
[01:12] <cc3750> hello?
[01:13] <Chaorain> I hear you can put Gnome 3 on 11.04 but it breaks Unity
[01:15] <faint545> so if 11.10 going to use Unity?
[01:15] <faint545> *is
[01:15] <TBotNik> All: Close but no banna.  Got my dhcp3-server settings at least put the right IP and range on the eth0, but still it is not serving IPs to the network.  Latest PB at: http://pastebin.com/YJKNRXVk  I guess after all this I may be the expert on this LOL :)  :)
[01:15] <CrusaderAD> Of course
[01:16] <Chaorain> anyone here familiar with LIRC?
[01:16] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone here know anything bout partitioning?
[01:17] <CrusaderAD> Yes
[01:17] <TBotNik> All: Main thing I noticed that made the biggest change is all the eth0 setting had to be grouped together in the interfaces file.
[01:17] <Kaleidoscope> Good, I need to resize my Linux partition, but Im not sure how
[01:18] <Corey> Kaleidoscope: Step 1, take good backups.
[01:18] <lapaga> Kaleidoscope: also a livecd
[01:18] <Kaleidoscope> Got the Live CD, No backups =P
[01:19] <CrusaderAD> Install gparted from the software center and use that, and definetly back stuff up
[01:19] <mouse> gparted is a good toop
[01:19] <mouse> *tool
[01:19] <Kaleidoscope> The problem I had was that since my linux partition is mounted, It won't let me change it, Will gparted let me?
[01:19] <lapaga> Kaleidoscope: that is why you use a live cd
[01:20] <Kaleidoscope> Ahh ok
[01:20] <CrusaderAD> Why do u want to resize it?
[01:20] <Kaleidoscope> Makes sense >.>
[01:20] <nocilis> does anyone have experience running a windows-ubuntu ad-hoc network?
[01:20] <Kaleidoscope> I'm moving all my files from my windows partition to my Linux one, Except linux atm only has 40 gigs
[01:21] <CrusaderAD> Hm, I would invest in a new hard drive and ina
[01:21] <CrusaderAD> And install to that
[01:21] <CrusaderAD> Space is cheap
[01:21] <CrusaderAD> And u won't mess anything up
[01:22] <lapaga> Kaleidoscope: there is another option...just because you have downloaded it does not mean you have to keep it forever
[01:22] <D4rkSilver> Hi, would anyone please tell me how does one auto-mount /dev/sda1 on /home/user/sda1 ?
[01:22] <Guest24725> fstab?
[01:22] <Guest24725> or am i being dumb?
[01:23] <faint545> nah, fstab would be the way
[01:23] <WhyHelloThere> hi guys I'm getting the following error: "timeout: down: /etc/service/redis_default: 1s, normally up, want up" when I try to run "sudo /usr/bin/chpst -u root /usr/bin/sv restart /etc/service/redis_default" - could anyone help me out?
[01:23] <D4rkSilver> Well I suppose it is indeed fstab but I don't really want to mess it...
[01:23] <th0r> D4rkSilver: you add a line in /etc/fstab
[01:23] <faint545> D4rkSilver.. its pretty simpl.. All you need to do is find the UUID of the disk, and create a line in FSTAB
[01:23] <FatsDT> I am using lucid lynx.  Which package provides the propietary nvidia driver?
[01:24] <edbian> FatsDT: there is more than one. hang on
[01:24] <nocilis> anyone have any ideas (about setting up an ubuntu-windows ad-hoc network?)?
[01:25] <Guest24725> nocilis: not me
[01:25] <edbian> FatsDT: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[01:25] <faint545> @D4rkSilver, the line will look like this: UUID=[ID] [Mount Point] [Type] [Options] [Dump] [Pass]. What is the type of the drive? Ntfs? Ext4?
[01:26] <delac> I can't find the Adobe Flash Local Settings Manager from System -> Preferences even though I have flash 10.3. Any way to get it there? Is there a command to start it from terminal?
[01:26] <D4rkSilver> faint545: does that looks like right? "/dev/sda1   /home/user/sda1   auto   rw,auto,exec,utf8   0   0"
[01:27] <Pyraine> I've got a really dumb question
[01:27] <CrusaderAD> Shoot
[01:27] <Pyraine> is this the same room as the one the freenode server?
[01:27] <rww> Pyraine: yes. irc.ubuntu.com redirects to chat.freenode.net
[01:27] <lapaga> it is the freenode server
[01:27] <CrusaderAD> Yep
[01:27] <faint545> D4rkSilver, I personally would use the UUID to identify the disk since naming conventions such as /dev/sd* are not really absolute. they can change.
[01:27] <faint545> *wouldnt
[01:28] <faint545> err.. would lol
[01:28] <Pyraine> wizardry.
[01:28] <D4rkSilver> faint545: ahh I see
[01:28] <Guest24725> D4rkSilver:I agree with faint545
[01:29] <faint545> D4rkSilver, but from what you gave me it seems OK.
[01:29] <ScottyBoy> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 11.04 works with Mac PowerPC processors?
[01:29] <Pyraine> Now for my real question... does anybody know of a more up to date HD-Audio-Models.txt than the one that is on www.kernel.org?
[01:29] <rww> !ppc | ScottyBoy
[01:29] <edbian> ScottyBoy: Not anymore
[01:29] <faint545> D4rkSilver, to find UUID, simply type... sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[01:29] <edbian> ScottyBoy: eh, ubottu is more correct than me
[01:29] <nocilis> kk then bye
[01:29] <Pin> Guys whats wrong with my Ubuntu! I just fixed my Ubuntu unity thru compiz but now i restarted the computer and my computers resolutions arnt working!!! > screenshot http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:30] <D4rkSilver> faint545: kk thanks =)
[01:30] <carlos> hello, my processor can run at 32 and 64 bits, which is the difference between installing 64 or 32 bit linux?
[01:30] <edbian> carlos: 64bit OS allows you use more than 3.2Gb of ram
[01:30] <Pyraine> or does anybody know of a HD-Audio-Models list which includes the ALC1200 ?
[01:30] <ScottyBoy> Bummer for me. LOL
[01:30] <dr_willis> carlos:  ram it can access. for the most part.. a bit of a speed gain in some cases with 64bit
[01:31] <carlos> only a bit speed?
[01:31] <ScottyBoy> Thanks, edbian. :)
[01:31] <edbian> ScottyBoy: sure
[01:32] <Pin> be rigth back
[01:32] <edbian> carlos: precisely one bit
[01:32] <Guest24725> i thought that in order to run 32 bit software on a 64bit system, the os had to provide some sort of virtualization
[01:32] <Pyraine> carlos: don't quote me I don't know much about hardware, but I'm fairly certain programs developed specifically for x64 systems can use twice as much processing
[01:32] <edbian> Pyraine: what do you mean?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Guest24725:  theres compat. libs that can do it.
[01:33] <Guest24725> dr_willis: kk
[01:33] <Pyraine> edbian: do 64-bit applications not use both cores of your processor at the same time?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Guest24725:  but you mean a 32bit app on a 64bit OS...   the 64bit cpus out can handle 32bit os's
[01:33] <Pyraine> two cores* not both cores, you might have more than 2
[01:33] <edbian> Pyraine: You can have a dual core 32 bit processor
[01:34] <edbian> Pyraine: # of bits and # of cores are not linked
[01:34] <Pyraine> edbian: yeah, but both cores won't get used by a single application though.. right?
[01:34] <carlos> can I have some problem to install a 64-bit? or may not notice anything?
[01:34] <dr_willis> Pyraine:  depends on how the app is programed
[01:34] <dr_willis> carlos:  ive had very few if any issues with 64bit.
[01:34] <edbian> Pyraine: That does not have to do with 64 or 32 bits either.  That's if the programmer wrote the program to be multi-core or not
[01:34] <dr_willis> carlos:  if you have less then 4gb of ram. you can safely use 32bit if you wanted to
[01:34] <Guest24725> dr_willis: i was asking about a 32bit app on a 64bit machine/os
[01:34] <edbian> Pyraine: most btw do not write for 2 or 4 core processors
[01:35] <edbian> Most multi-core software is for graphics cards which have 100s of cores
[01:35] <Pyraine> edbian: I see, but you can't get a single core processor to run a 64-bit operating system though, can you?
[01:35] <carlos> i just have 4gb of ram installed
[01:35] <edbian> Guest24725: 64 bit processors can run 32 bit software most of the time flawlessly
[01:35] <lapaga> I am thinking that there are not of normally used apps that will  be helped by 64 bit but it will lengthen the eol of the computer
[01:35] <edbian> Pyraine: There are single core 64 bit processors
[01:35] <edbian> Pyraine: and they can run 64 bit OSs
[01:35] <edbian> carlos: Then you probably want 64 bit
[01:35] <Pyraine> edbian: well, I guess you learn something new every day
[01:36] <edbian> carlos: Or you won't be able to use all of that ram (just most of it)
[01:36] <edbian> Pyraine: :)
[01:36] <carlos> ok
[01:36] <edbian> carlos: :)
[01:36] <faint545> How long do you guys think it'll take to defrag a 3TB external USB drive... only 1.9 TB is being used...
[01:36] <carlos> edbian, and and about flash player works fine with 64 bits?
[01:37] <edbian> lapaga: what?
[01:37] <Pyraine> carlos: flash player works completely fine.
[01:37] <Scotty_> holy, the weirdest thing. and i have confirmed, My mouse get laggy when im uploading...
[01:37] <carlos> ok ok many thanks to all
[01:37] <edbian> carlos: I don't know first hand.  Recent news is that 'yes' flash works fine on 64 bits (just as fine as 32 bits anyway)
[01:37] <Kuwanger> So I've used sysprof to find out that there's a lot of CPU usage in the kernel when display graphics in some SDL games, and it seems a lot of it comes down to on_each_cpu which may or may not be tied heavily to either perf_do_callchain or change_page_attr_set_clr.  But, now that I know that, I'm not sure what to do with the information.  Any ideas on a good next step?
[01:38] <Pyraine> I'm a web developer and have made, debugged and run web applications in actionscript 3 on 64-bit systems, so that I can say with confidence.
[01:38] <edbian> Pyraine: :D
[01:39] <carlos> thank you very much again to all, I'll tell you after installing:)
[01:39] <jamiewan> Hi, have natty+win7 duel boot setup, i unplugged the win7 hard drive last nite, and now cannot boot into linux, re-connected the win7 drive and still no success booting to either, get this error, NTDLR missing, ctr alt del to restart, but just goes in the same loop, any help
[01:39] <edbian> carlos: :D
[01:39] <lapaga> edbian: just mean that most apps that the average person uses will not really be helped by using 64 bit over 32 bit...but...as the world turns and things progress 64 bit will probably be the 32 bit of today
[01:39] <carlos> hugs
[01:39] <edbian> lapaga: I agree
[01:39] <dr_willis> faint545:  what filesystem is on the drive? how are you defragging it?
[01:39] <edbian> jamiewan: Can you boot a liveCD ?
[01:40] <Pin> Guys I have Ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop, I have an external flat screen connected to it, Why cant i go over 1024x768 resolution with the monitor?
[01:40] <faint545> dr_willis FS is NTFS. I plan on defragging it using Windows 7's default defragmenter..
[01:40] <dabaR> Hello #ubuntu. How do I add a launcher to the new menu>
[01:40] <jamiewan> edbian: havent tried, unplugged it to take to mates place to troubleshoot, but thought might be worth running it thru here first
[01:40] <Pyraine> to be honest I went from a 1GB ram, 1.4GHz processor, 32-bit system, to a 4GB ram 2ghz quad-core 64-bit system, so the improvement was drastic but I don't know how much of it was the hardware improvement and how much of it is the OS improvement
[01:40] <edbian> dabaR: Put the launcher on the desktop.  Drag the launcher onto the unity bar on the left.
[01:40] <faint545> @dr_willis or use a 3rd party defragmenter.
[01:41] <dr_willis> faint545:  i tend to use 'mydefrag' on windows. It has differnt levels of defragging. the fast mode. (just move stuff to one end) can proberly do it in a few hrs.. :) 'full complete' defrag - may take  a day. :)
[01:41] <edbian> jamiewan: I think when you plugged the HDD back in you didn't tell the bios to boot it.
[01:41] <dabaR> edbian: Thanks very much.
[01:41] <edbian> Pyraine: Did you switch OS too?  (that's a huge hardware improvement)
[01:41] <dr_willis> faint545:  and you can actually watch its progress..  unlike the windows tool
[01:41] <edbian> dabaR: sure
[01:41] <faint545> dr_willis, thx for the input
[01:42] <Pin> Guys my monitor used to go on very high resolutions, Now ubuntu only lets me go to 1024x768! HELP!!! http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:42] <Pyraine> edbian: nah, both were dual-boot Win7 and Ubuntu, I just jumped to 64-bit versions of both
[01:42] <jamiewan> edbian: ok, so go into bios and check that first you think, maybe uncheck fast oot aswell?
[01:42] <faint545> @dr_willis haha, MyDefrag is basically JKDefrag is it not?
[01:42] <edbian> Pyraine: mmm
[01:42] <CarlFK> jamiewan: call the drives A and B.  long shot: your box booted grub from A, when you pulled it your box reset the boot drive to B. putting A back in didn't  change it from B back to A becasue there was still a B.
[01:42] <Pyraine> faint545: from my experience the best and quickest defrag tool for Windows is defraggler
[01:42] <jamiewan> CarlFK: ok so a quick fiddle in the bios might fix it then
[01:43] <edbian> jamiewan: Fast boot won't change which HDD is being booted.  Here's what i think.  You had 2 hdds.  You pulled one and hte bios was like 'fine then I'll use the other... jerk'  and then you put the first one back in and the bios was like 'k... who cares' and keeps trying to boot the other one.
[01:43] <Pyraine> faint545: has a really light and nice GUI aswell if that matters to you
[01:43] <edbian> jamiewan: And 'the other one' doesn't have an MBR
[01:43] <Pin> Guys my monitor used to go on very high resolutions, Now ubuntu only lets me go to 1024x768! HELP!!! http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:43] <CarlFK> jamiewan: that woud be my guess
[01:43] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> simple question for anyone that knows the simple answer... why wont the installer (10.04) install the bootloader to /dev/cciss/c0d0?
[01:44] <Pyraine> Pin: is this since moving to ubuntu? is your graphics card nvidia?
[01:44] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> or is there a way around it?
[01:44] <AwesomeMustard> So I installed ccsm on Ubuntu 11.04 and i hit the 3d cube option and it asked to enable opengl and compositor (or something like that) and after words it got rid of the window boarders so now there is no exit button, minimize, etc.   I have tried to disable what i enabled, reinstalling ccsm, compiz, gnome, and ubuntu-desktop (was to be reinstalled with compiz) and my problem is still not fixed.  Anyone have any idea on how t
[01:44] <AwesomeMustard> o fix it?
[01:44] <jamiewan> edbian: ok, i'm just aboutto head out with it, if your still about hour or so and i have no luck i'll drop back in ere, cheers guys
[01:44] <Pin> no if was after having issues with compiz, the issues are resolved but now my monitor apears as "unknown" in the monitors section
[01:44] <dr_willis> faint545:  its been renamed.
[01:44] <Pin> and only goes to 1024x768
[01:45] <edbian> Pin: Have you tried messing with all the resolution options like 'same image' and turning the monitors off / on
[01:45] <edbian> jamiewan: good luck
[01:45] <___Alex___> is there any other commands to check for disk integrity other than fsck -f /dev/sxxx ?
[01:45] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: Are you using ubuntu classic?
[01:45] <CarlFK> ttlycnfuzd|grge: my guess: that's not normal, and so try to keep people from making a mistake.  try the Alt installer CD.. it has more partition options
[01:45] <Pin> yep edbian tried that
[01:45] <edbian> Pin: Then I'm not sure :P
[01:46] <infobit> Pin, what resolutions you use to get before
[01:46] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, yes, i am
[01:46] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> CarlFK: the installer recognises the device, however, when you go to select the device to install bootloader (advanced options), the OK is greyed out...
[01:46] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: Can you open ccsm and edit the things in it?
[01:46] <faint545> ___Alex___, i suppose you could use SMART, but that isn't always reliable
[01:46] <Pin> i used to be able to get up to 1280x1024 on my external monitor
[01:47] <AwesomeMustard> edbain, yes, but i can't fix the problem by undoing what i did
[01:47] <Pyraine> Pin: when you were fixing compiz did you follow any tutorials that told you to uninstall any libraries or applications?
[01:47] <Pin> Pyraine no
[01:47] <AwesomeMustard> *edbian
[01:47] <___Alex___> faint545: hmmm.... I've been having issues using rsync with fake 'read only' errors, so I thought running fsck on my disks would help...
[01:47] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: Go to the window decorations plugin in ccsm.  Make sure it is turned on.  Click on it and tell me what is in the command box
[01:47] <CarlFK> ttlycnfuzd|grge: huh. plan B: let the installer install grub wherever it wants, boot, and install grub to your.. um.. Ram thing (what is it anyway?)
[01:47] <faint545> ___Alex___, what did the errors say exactly?
[01:48] <___Alex___> faint545: I'll have to get it running again after my fscks :)
[01:48] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> CarlFK: yea.. ive tried that, but what happens is, I only get the minimal bash shell...
[01:49] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> what sux, I had 10.10 and 11.04 running on here, but they werent the most stable....
[01:49] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> :(
[01:49] <edbian> ttlycnfuzd|grge: If you want stable use Debian :)
[01:49] <___Alex___> faint545: was trying to copy files from one hdd to another, two different computers, same errors... one was direct sata backplane, the other is mounted via usb...   HELP!!! http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:50] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> edbian: ok debian huh?  im willing to try... does it play well with raid devices upon install? lol
[01:50] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, where?  I can't find a window decorations plugin.  I do see a Windows Management section though.
[01:50] <edbian> ttlycnfuzd|grge: No idea.  It's extremely stable (because the software is older)
[01:50] <Pyraine> ttylcnfuzd|grge: don't discount LinuxMint if you want stable!
[01:51] <CarlFK> ttlycnfuzd|grge: sounds like you didn't get grub installed right
[01:51] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: It's in the effects category.  Use the search box if you're having a lot of trouble.
[01:51] <dr_willis> i discount mint for other reasons.. :) but thats getting OT....
[01:51] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: It's called Window Decoration and it is definitely there
[01:51] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> CarlFK: yea... i had to manually create the grub.conf, but there is still no devices.map
[01:52] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> and that was after a sudo grub-install...
[01:52] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, found the option but i don't what you mean by giving you the command?
[01:52] <CarlFK> ttlycnfuzd|grge: what all do you want on the ram thing?  cuz it is sounding like more than just grub
[01:52] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: Is it's box ticked?
[01:52] <Pin> Guys my monitor used to go on very high resolutions, Now ubuntu only lets me go to 1024x768! HELP!!! http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:53] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, now it is
[01:53] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: click the plugin, there is only one tab (general) and on that tab is a command option.  What is in the box for 'command'
[01:53] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: window decorations are the borders you were missing.  That was almost certainly the issue.
[01:53] <CarlFK> Pin - it's poor form to ask so often.  give the chan at least 30 min.
[01:54] <mouse> AwesomeMustard: you got same problem i had so i re-installed linux and told myself next time i want to use compiz i will install ubuntu to virtualbox and try settings in that
[01:54] <edbian> mouse: I can fix it for you too!
[01:55] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, now i know where your talking about the command but i don't know what you want from it.  I did enable it though
[01:55] <edbian> mouse: AwesomeMustard btw, unity uses compiz :)
[01:55] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: What is the command in the box?
[01:55] <ttlycnfuzd|grge> CarlFK / edbian - I think that I may try Debian... thanks for the advice.. not sure whats really up, but maybe something in that installer will allow it to run properly..
[01:55] <TBotNik> All: Do we have a networking expert here tonite?
[01:55] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator?
[01:55] <edbian> ttlycnfuzd|grge: sure, have fun!
[01:55] <mouse> edbian: too late it's working thanks though
[01:55] <edbian> mouse: sure :)
[01:56] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: It might be an empty box.  There are other input boxes on that tab like Decoration windows 'any' and Shadow windows 'type=window'
[01:56] <CarlFK> TBotNik: I have crimped a cable or 2
[01:56] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: I think you're looking too hard :P
[01:56] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, oh if you click on the thing next to the check box.
[01:57] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: yes
[01:57] <Osmodivs> hello. what could be wrong with my machine? I shutdown Ubuntu 11.04 the normal way in the GUI, and the red LED of the case and screen monitor turns off, but the CPU fan and the PSU fan still running, they wont shut down, this has been happenning since yesterday
[01:57] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: The 'button' for that plugin.  You see the command input box now?
[01:57] <AwesomeMustard> edbain, all of the boxes are empty.  I can't see the very top of the window though.  Is the first box "Command line 0"
[01:57] <pirlo89> Does anyone know how to make "Google gadget desktop sidebar" to NOT disappear when clicking on the "Show desktop" button in Debian ?
[01:58] <CarlFK> Osmodivs: global warming!
[01:58] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: You're in the wrong place.  System -> Preferences -> compizconfig Settings Manager -> window decoration
[01:58] <Osmodivs> CarlFK,  ...
[01:58] <AwesomeMustard> edbian, oh.  it's /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[01:58] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: It looks like this: http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TXTMtLyo0rI/AAAAAAAADWs/GvdZeWWs8Bk/s400/ccsm.png
[01:59] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: yay!
[01:59] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: anywho, we turned it on which was the problem.  I just wanted to make sure the command was correct just in case.  Wanna reboot? (or log out and log back in)
[01:59] <Pin> Guys my monitor used to go on very high resolutions, Now ubuntu only lets me go to 1024x768! HELP!!! http://i.imgur.com/b7bWY.png
[01:59] <CarlFK> Osmodivs: sorry, no clue.  sounds like the ps is tweaked
[02:00] <AwesomeMustard> edbain, it appears everything is working execpt for some transparent stuff around the round corners of the windows.  I'll reboot.  Thanks
[02:00] <qin> Pin: lspci, lshw. Post, in paste.ubuntu.com only lines connected to video or vga.
[02:01] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: sure
[02:01] <edbian> AwesomeMustard: glad I could help!
[02:01] <Pin> what?
[02:01] <RealOpty> when upgrading ubuntu, my /etc/sysctl.conf was replaced but i didnt get a popup asking me what i wanted to do. this is a bug yes?
[02:02] <tracy> I have a question
[02:03] <tracy> can I just ask it ?
[02:03] <tremenjis> Silly question: why i can't enable ssl using default snakeoil certificate? I'm on natty.
[02:03] <qin> Pin: Also, lsb_release -a, and jockey-text -l
[02:04] <CarlFK> tracy: yep
[02:04] <edbian> tracy: yes
[02:04] <Pin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652107/
[02:04] <tracy> I have 11.04 I need drivers for c183 kodak camera
[02:04] <spankbot> Anyone encounter this before?  Clean install of VMWare Workstation and reboot after the install, start VMWare and get an error: GNU C Compiler (gcc) version 4.6.0 was not found
[02:05] <Pin> i typed jockey-text -l and nothing happened
[02:06] <edbian> tracy: What happens if you plug the camera into the computer?
[02:06] <edbian> spankbot: install gcc?
[02:06] <tracy> nothing
[02:06] <richie_> argh, is there anyway to ghost an unregged username?
[02:06] <jhouse5266534> How do I make an application show up in ubuntu's lenses?
[02:06] <richie_> oh nevermind
[02:06] <tracy> its does not see the camera
[02:07] <Pin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652109/
[02:07] <rww> Pyraine: (for future reference: no)
[02:07] <robin0800> tracy, do you need drivers on windows?
[02:07] <lapaga> Pin: I am not sure but you might want to check into xrandr
[02:07] <Pyraine> rww: cheers, I should probably register
[02:07] <Pin> whats that
[02:07] <tracy> yes I have a install for windows
[02:08] <rww> Pyraine: That would be a good idea, yes ;)
[02:08] <edbian> jhouse5266534: lenses?
[02:08] <jhouse5266534> edbian: Whatever the thing that pops up when you hit the windows button and type text
[02:09] <jhouse5266534> It shows matching apps, etc...
[02:09] <Pin> whats xrandr, how do i use it to fix my problem?
[02:09] <edbian> jhouse5266534: oh that.  good question
[02:09] <robin0800> tracy, well you will need a linux driver perhaps kodak can help
[02:09] <tracy> thanks robin they siad they just make drivers for windows and Mac
[02:10] <edbian> jhouse5266534: IDK! :D  Try adding it to the menu with the 'main menu' app
[02:10] <tracy> can I install window drive in 11.04?
[02:10] <edbian> tracy: no
[02:11] <CarlFK> tracy: have you tried just plugging it in?  some times they use standard protocols that just work
[02:11] <qin> pin: Maybe this one, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to confirm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/436902
[02:11] <edbian> CarlFK: I suggest that :P
[02:11] <robin0800> tracy, dual boot is probably your best bet
[02:11] <tracy> Yes tryed just plugging it in nothing happens
[02:11] <Pin> qin i dont understand, im new to ubuntu explain to me step by step
[02:12] <faint545> hey guys, i just ran hwinfo and got this: http://pastebin.com/DmE5dDwn
[02:12] <tracy> ok thanks robin
[02:12] <tracy> thanks everyone
[02:12] <Iu>  hi, I'm having some trouble getting my gigabit nic to run at gigabit speeds. the adapter is an atheros ar8121/ar8113/ar8114 gigabit adapter using the atl1e driver, but ethtool only reports 10 or 100 mbps modes
[02:12] <faint545> should i just ignore it?
[02:12] <Pin> what do i do qin
[02:12] <Pyraine> Woo! I finally fixed my soundcard problem. If anybody has a laptop with a subwoofer that doesn't work..  There is still no soundcard fix for Windows as far as I am aware, it's either sub-woofer or stereo, can't have both.
[02:15] <edbian> Pyraine: well that's stupid
[02:15] <shantorn> dell?
[02:16] <Pyraine> advent
[02:16] <shantorn> i had to do a switch so that pcm was main volume and mono was sub
[02:16] <shantorn> in alsa mixer
[02:16] <Pyraine> you can do that in Windows?
[02:16] <qin> Pin: Post #18 in: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/154729
[02:16] <Pyraine> ah
[02:17] <Pyraine> I jut set the model to 6stack-dig in alsa-base.conf
[02:17] <Pin> i dont understand that qin
[02:17] <Zahrada> a laptop with a subwoofer?
[02:17] <Pin> what do i do with all those numbers /signs and commands on post 18
[02:18] <Pyraine> edbian: yeah it is, I think there may be some software somewhere that came with the laptop but I nuked the whole bundled sofware the second I got it haha
[02:18] <Pin> Explain Step by Step please
[02:18] <DrGrov> How do I extract .part1.rar, .part2.rar files on 10.04? Via terminal yes?
[02:18] <Zahrada> Isn't that a bit like putting a porsche engine into a trabant?
[02:18] <Pyraine> Zahrada: haha yeah, it's just a little bass speaker on the underside of the laptop
[02:18] <edbian> Pyraine: haha.  stupid crapware
[02:18] <lapaga> unrar?
[02:18] <Zahrada> it works in theory, but it's not how it should be..
[02:19] <DrGrov> lapaga: But does it automatically pick it into one big file if I start with .part1.rar?
[02:20] <lapaga> DrGrov: saw this the other day...trying to try and remember what
[02:20] <ziikutv> how do i do "wget commands"
[02:20] <ziikutv> such as "wget http://robzon.kapati.net/rails/rhtml.lang && sudo"
[02:21] <Pyraine> ziikutv: what do you mean? where do you execute them? from terminal.
[02:21] <ziikutv> Pyraine: Doesnt work for me :S
[02:21] <DrGrov> lapaga: It works, no worries :)
[02:21] <DrGrov> lapaga: I just used Archive Manager and it picked every .rar part separately and extracted the whole thing
[02:22] <lapaga> :)
[02:22] <ziikutv> Pyraine: Never mind.. seems the host is dead thats why.
[02:22] <Pyraine> aha! yeah that will do it haha
[02:23] <qin> Pin: When last time did you update?
[02:23] <DrGrov> lapaga: I needed a book called Physical Rehabilitation by Susan O'Sullivan since I promised my better half to write an assignment for her
[02:23] <DrGrov> lapaga: The darn book is 1412 pages LOL
[02:24] <lapaga> DrGrov: sounds like speed raring is in order
[02:24] <qin> Pin: And, do you have dual monitor?
[02:25] <DrGrov> lapaga: I am sure my 2 dual cores (AMD Opteron 280 @ 2.4GHz each = 9.6GHz) rars it fast like hell ;)
[02:25] <Pyraine> is anybody familiar with itunes?
[02:25] <Pin> max display on this monitor only shows up to 1024x768, i used to get more
[02:25] <Zahrada> somewhat Pyraine
[02:26] <lapaga> DrGrov: my trs-80 gets bogged down on the amount of cassettes it needs
[02:26] <Pin> its a laptop
[02:26] <Pyraine> Zahrada: do you know of the "automatically add to itunes" feature?
[02:26] <Zahrada> yeah
[02:26] <Pyraine> Zahrada: do you know if it is possible to do this with banshee?
[02:26] <DrGrov> lapaga: LOL :)
[02:26] <Zahrada> no idea
[02:26] <Zahrada> I haven't used banshee in a long time.
[02:27] <Gustavo> algue fala portugues
[02:27] <DrGrov> Pyraine: I think Amarok would work for itunes support. That is what I think I read earlier. Check on amarok to see if it does it for you
[02:27] <solo> you guys using the gnome 3 xchat?
[02:27] <Zahrada> I always used Rhythmbox
[02:28] <solo> Zahrada, for irc?
[02:28] <spankbot> edbian >> I've install the latest gcc, and the gcc error went away but now I'm getting a "Kernel Headers 2.6.38.xxxx were not found
[02:28] <Pin> qin: max display on this monitor only shows up to 1024x768, i used to get more
[02:28] <Pyraine> DrGov: I'm not looking for an iTunes support per se, it's just a feature where you place unorganised mp3s into a single folder and itunes will take their ID3 tags and place them in a music folder in an on organised hierarchy
[02:28] <DrGrov> Can I get GNOME 3 running on 10.04?
[02:29] <edbian> spankbot: install those :)
[02:29] <rww> Pyraine: I use the package 'picard' for that, but it's a bit arcane.
[02:29] <bucephalus> hello?
[02:29] <DrGrov> Pyraine: Please write my name correctly next time so it blinks for me :)
[02:30] <rww> DrGrov: not that I know of
[02:30] <DrGrov> Pyraine: I am sure you find something in the repos to fix that for you.
[02:30] <bucephalus> can someone help me with an internet connection sharing issue?
[02:30] <alex--> How to open files in ubuntu server with root?
[02:30] <Pyraine> DrGrov: Sorry! yeah, I was wondering why autocomplete didn't work
[02:30] <rww> alex--: prepend sudo to the usual command. e.g. "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:30] <spankbot> edbian >> now that I'm not to sure about doing, not even sure what I'm looking for.
[02:30] <DrGrov> rww: Ok, so I am stuck with oldish GNOME but that is still ok. Just feels a tidy bit boring to sit with GNOME 2.
[02:30] <DrGrov> Pyraine: No worries :)
[02:30] <Pyraine> rww: does it work in the background? or do you have to execute it?
[02:30] <alex--> rww: when i do that, it tells me: sudo: /root/ispconfig/uinstall: command not found
[02:31] <joint> drgrove yes.. just google it, or youtube it
[02:31] <rww> DrGrov: (the GNOME 3 PPA we usually point to (with warnings about it being unsupported) only does natty and oneiric)
[02:31] <bucephalus> anyone good with networking?
[02:31] <DrGrov> Well god damnit guys!
[02:31] <joint> gnome 3 ubuntu 10.04
[02:31] <edbian> spankbot: I'm not sure either.  I'm not surprised that gcc was not installed by default (not everybody is compiling c code ya know) but I am surprised it wants the headers. Have you updated and upgraded ?  via apt-get?
[02:31] <DrGrov> Autocomplete anyone? LOL
[02:31] <alex--> bucephalus: #networking
[02:31] <bucephalus> thanks alex
[02:31] <DrGrov> joint: You misspelled my name.... :) LOL
[02:31] <bucephalus> connect #networking
[02:31] <rww> alex--: /root/ispconfig/uinstall doesn't exist, then.
[02:31] <alex--> it does
[02:31] <rww> (or isn't a valid executable)
[02:31] <alex--> but i dont get access to it
[02:31] <rww> alex--: is it chmod +x? is it the right architecture? (32-bit vs. 64-bit)
[02:31] <alex--> it doesn't exists then i think so
[02:32] <bucephalus> quit
[02:32] <DrGrov> rww: Well I could check via Google on something to do with the GNOME 3 PPA. If it works that would be good but if not I will just continue with Enlightenment 17.
[02:33] <rww> Pyraine: it's a GUI program that you execute. apologies if that's not what you're looking for (I didn't read scrollback thoroughly)
[02:33] <lapaga> DrGrov: ubuntuforums can help you  quite a bit with gnome 3
[02:33] <Bfh> Question: currently using command wget -r linkhere to download vids from sites, on youtube though when i use this command it will download to many files at one time i just need to download the single vid thats playing. any1 know command for this or a program ?
[02:34] <DrGrov> lapaga: Good, I am heading there :) Thanks
[02:34] <Hickeroar> Question. I'm running linux mint 11 right now. What would it take to convert to Ubuntu with minimal effort
[02:34] <Hickeroar> I'm assuming I couldn't just install ubuntu over linux mint....right?
[02:34] <rww> Hickeroar: The only way to convert from Mint to Ubuntu that's supported by this channel is grabbing an install CD and reformatting.
[02:34] <Hickeroar> haha! Is there an unsupported way?
[02:35] <rww> Hickeroar: Probably, but that's out of scope for this channel :P
[02:35] <rww> (and I don't personally know of one, because I avoid unofficial derivatives)
[02:35] <tlab> I can ssh to my server on the local lan, but not over the internet, I get access denied
[02:35] <edbian> tlab: port forwarding on your router
[02:36] <tlab> I have it setup
[02:36] <tlab> I get the prompt to log in
[02:36] <DrGrov> lapaga: I just figured out one thing about this physical rehabilitation as a subject.
[02:37] <DrGrov> lapaga: Damn it is tedious reading, getting tired already after the first 10 pages LOL
[02:37] <Pyraine> that was nice
[02:37] <Bfh> lolz ya
[02:37] <lapaga> well that was special
[02:37] <Informar> ANAL SEX!!!!!!!
[02:37] <javier21ar> ANAL SEX!!!!!!!
[02:37] <Informar> ANAL SEX!!!!!!!
[02:37] <javier21ar> ANAL SEX!!!!!!!
[02:37] <FloodBot1> Informar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <FloodBot1> javier21ar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <DrGrov> Thanks rww. Good that you reacted that fast :)
[02:40] <lapaga> i know this is completely off topic...but shouldn't the bot be able to react faster than a person?
[02:41] <rww> lapaga: The bot does react faster than people, and did react faster than me ;)
[02:41] <lapaga> :)
[02:42] <crackerjackz> how come i can use ssh but i can't use fish for konqueror?
[02:42] <tsimpson> fish is a hack, use sftp
[02:42] <tsimpson> or just ssh://
[02:43] <Kaleidoscope> HA
[02:43] <Kaleidoscope> Now I see why you guys mentioned I should do backups
[02:43] <Kaleidoscope> I just completely screwed up my Windows partition
[02:44] <rww> *** NOTICE: If you were unable to speak in the last few minutes, please try again.
[02:44] <Kaleidoscope> The good part is atleast now my Linux has the entire HD to use
[02:44] <crackerjackz> tsimpson, so how come it doesn't work though?
[02:44] <sudocomm> congrats
[02:44] <edbian> rww: hi
[02:44] <rww> edbian: hi
[02:45] <tsimpson> crackerjackz: hard to say really, it should work if you can ssh in, but fish isn't really highly maintained
[02:45] <lapaga> Kaleidoscope: if you have important stuff on windows you might want to use a live cd and not do anything on the windows partition...use testdisk to see if you can recover
[02:46] <crackerjackz> tsimpson, what else could i use similar to fish in konqueror?
[02:47] <K350> what key is the "meta" key?
[02:47] <edbian> K350: windows
[02:47] <tsimpson> crackerjackz: try with sftp://
[02:48] <Kaleidoscope> lapaga, It's fine, I already just re assigned the entire hd to my Linux
[02:48] <lapaga> windows (4 boxes) or alt ps
[02:48] <spankbot> Has anyone with a Laptop running NVidia card and NVidia drivers have the system abruptly logout when no power source is connected?  If I'm not connected to a power source, every 3-4min I'm forced to logout
[02:48] <K350> edbian: Ah, thanks!:-)
[02:49] <edbian> K350: sure
[02:50] <crackerjackz> tsimpson, it says the server refused to allow this computer to make a connection
[02:50] <crackerjackz> but i'm ssh'd in right now
[02:50] <d_atharva> Whats happening on ubuntu channel ??? Was there any spambot attack recently ???
[02:50] <alex--> dir: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
[02:51] <rww> d_atharva: Yes.
[02:51] <tsimpson> crackerjackz: does it use a port other than 22?
[02:51] <alex--> how to open my folder?
[02:51] <edbian> alex--: Is that a question?
[02:51] <alex--> i get: dir: cannot open directory .: Permission denied
[02:51] <alex--> yes
[02:51] <edbian> alex--: who owns it?
[02:51] <alex--> edbian: i think root
[02:51] <csdserver> spankbot make sure you check nvidia's ftp site for driver updates and which apply to your system ( and to figure that out, go here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-275.21-driver.html
[02:51] <edbian> alex--: Where is this folder?
[02:52] <d_atharva> rww : what did it do ??
[02:52] <alex--> edbian: /etc/webmin/xdxd/
[02:52] <csdserver> spankbot: nvidia ftp host : download.nvidia.com
[02:52] <rww> d_atharva: Discussion of spam further disrupts Ubuntu support. Please don't engage in it.
[02:52] <lapaga> d_atharva: never even noticed anything
[02:53] <edbian> alex--: can you pastebin ls -l /etc/webmind/    ?
[02:53] <rww> !webmin | alex--
[02:53] <d_atharva> rww , lapaga : ok.....
[02:53] <edbian> oh
[02:53] <edbian> nevermind ...
[02:53] <alex--> rww: i know
[02:54] <alex--> rww: am i using it then? i'm just building a module and testing it
[02:54] <spankbot> csdserver, thanks I look around.  it has to be the problem because I can replicate the issue in Ubuntu 11.04 and Fedora 15
[02:54] <crackerjackz> tsimpson, i got it working... firewall is being screwy :/
[02:54] <alex--> edbian: http://pastebin.com/WrwYFMKV
[02:54] <edbian> alex--: The reason you can't edit the file is linux file permissions: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[02:55] <d_atharva> Hi....Can anyone please tell me Is there any software acting as a gprs ??? it should show my location in my laptop as I am connected to internet and move from one place to another
[02:55] <edbian> alex--: sudo chmod 715 should fix it
[02:55] <cypha> can I add an option to the right click menu to start a terminal window from the directory I rightclicked
[02:55] <cypha> or something similar
[02:55] <arthurscience> has anyone dual booted ubuntu with windows 7 on a compaq mini 210 netbook?
[02:55] <alex--> edbian: sudo chmod 715 /etc/webmin/xd/xd ?
[02:55] <alex--> xdxd *
[02:55] <cypha> so I can start a terminal window from a particular directory in nautilus
[02:55] <edbian> alex--: umm yeah
[02:55] <edbian> alex--: But you should read about file permissions to really fix it.
[02:56] <edbian> cypha: Yes, ther eis a package nautilus-open-terminal
[02:56] <dr_willis> cypha:  nautilus has a scriptig feature to allow that.  ive seen examples/tweaks that do exactly that
[02:56] <cypha> cool
[02:56] <edbian> cypha: requires a restart
[02:56] <edbian> dr_willis: mine is better!  :P
[02:56] <dr_willis> 'terminal here' or similer pacgajr i thik
[02:56] <karex> !wget
[02:56] <alex--> edbian: thx
[02:57] <edbian> alex--: sure
[02:57] <arthurscience> the netbook is sold with 4 primary partitions, and they are: boot, C:, recovery, and HP-TOOLS
[02:57] <edbian> arthurscience: I've not done it but I'm curious what your real question is
[02:57] <cypha> edbian, that was my next question, thanks :)
[02:57] <arthurscience> I would like to delete HP-TOOLS so I can make a native linux partition, but I don't want to do anything damaging
[02:58] <cypha> ok, so I have xchat-2.8.8 source downloaded
[02:58] <edbian> cypha: sure
[02:58] <dr_willis> arthurscience:  you will need to remove one to install linux,  or somehow covert one to a extended
[02:58] <jonny> i need help: how do i get rid of GRUB bootloader? i just want everything back to my vista partition
[02:58] <cypha> where do I go to write ./configure
[02:58] <cypha> make
[02:58] <cypha> make install?
[02:58] <scarmichael> in a normal ubuntu install  there exists an application under System>Administration>Language Support.  I am running a minimial install of ubuntu so this app didnt get installed.  Any ideas as to what package i need to apt-get into order to get this?
[02:58] <edbian> jonny: there is some command fixmbr  or something.  Ask in #windows
[02:58] <jonny> edbian: ty
[02:58] <arthurscience> I guess my real question is whether anyone is familiar with that HP-TOOLS partition and the purpose that it serves
[02:59] <edbian> arthurscience: deleting the HP-TOOLS partition will do something.  I can't promise that it won't break windows.  It probably won't but I can't guarantee
[02:59] <arthurscience> or...if there are any clever ways around the 4 primary limit given my situation
[02:59] <lapaga> cypha: in the dir that the file is
[02:59] <dr_willis> arthurscience:  its gotte to a point these days where i always get a 2nd hd for any new laptops to clone the origial hd to it for a backup... saves hassles later
[02:59] <edbian> arthurscience: extended partitions
[02:59] <csdserver> scarmichael, sounds like internationalization options
[03:00] <dr_willis> how big is hp-tools partition arthurscience
[03:00] <arthurscience> edbian: in order to make an extended partition I have to (at least temporarily) delete one of the primaries though...right?
[03:00] <scarmichael> csdserver, if you could take a look at the launcher by right clicking it, and read me the program that is launched, that would give me an answer
[03:00] <arthurscience> dr_willis: it's about 100MB and some change
[03:01] <edbian> arthurscience: I don't know
[03:01] <edbian> scarmichael: what's it called?
[03:01] <dr_willis> arthurscience:  so you could dd image it to a cd for a backup.
[03:01] <scarmichael> Language support
[03:01] <dr_willis> arthurscience:  be sure to make a recovery dvd set for that laptop also.. make 2   ;)
[03:01] <arthurscience> dr_willis: dd?
[03:01] <scarmichael> its under System>Administration
[03:01] <dr_willis> !dd
[03:02] <edbian> scarmichael: hang on
[03:02] <dr_willis> dd is a commad
[03:02] <edbian> scarmichael: I found it. Unity won't let me drop it to the desktop
[03:02] <edbian> hang on
[03:03] <csdserver> scarmichael, the process starts with gnome-language- still trying to get more info from top
[03:03] <dr_willis> arthurscience:  most likely its some boot tool partitio that you boot from to restore the stuff from the backup partition
[03:03] <sudocomm> couldn't he just use GParted to resize the C:\, and create the new partition then just make that partition extended?  Or am I just completely wrong?
[03:03] <scarmichael> gnome-language-selector must be it
[03:04] <edbian> scarmichael: the command is gnome-language-selector
[03:04] <dr_willis> sudocomm: 4 partitions max if they are all primaries
[03:04] <scarmichael> but not in repos
[03:04] <edbian> darnit!
[03:04] <karex> Is there (command-line) tool to download such URL and convert the link? Maybe like `wget -Kkp page1?arg=value page2?arg=value` {unfortunately wget doesn't change "&" to "%3F"}
[03:04] <edbian> scarmichael: It's probably part of a package, hang on
[03:04] <dr_willis> one primary can be an extended that holds logicals
[03:04] <edbian> scarmichael: installing apt-file...
[03:05] <ParadigmUltra> Can anyone help me with a cripling issue with my desktop's pointer not clicking?
[03:05] <djjonex> hello everybody
[03:05] <edbian> scarmichael: apt-file update...
[03:06] <sudocomm> dr_willis: Ah gotcha
[03:06] <scarmichael> edbian: never heard of apt-file, thanks looks quite useful for finding app contained in packages
[03:06] <djjonex> I have 2 pcs with Ubuntu 11.04 need to setup a home network (file sharing)
[03:06] <Trfsrfr> Anyone up for a rookie conversation? I am a linux newb, and have been solely using Ubuntu now for about 6 months, and in my rookie mind I think  it's 'buggy'. It does weird random things, although is more stable on my older desktop than my laptop.
[03:06] <alex--> Trfsrfr: what kind of weird random things?
[03:07] <csdserver> scarmichael - let me know if you need to know each individual dependency for language selector
[03:07] <vectory_> !meta
[03:07] <truepurple> None of my browsers are able to connect to the web, but clearly I have a internet connection, anyone have a idea what is going on?
[03:07] <csdserver> (you should see it in synaptics manager, all the info you need)
[03:07] <edbian> scarmichael: It isn't finding anything ...
[03:07] <Trfsrfr> alex-- taskbar issues, shut down issues on laptop,
[03:07] <arthurscience> if anyone cares, this forum answered my question: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware/Hp-Tools-Partion/td-p/228360
[03:07] <scarmichael> edbian: I think it is language-selector-gnome
[03:08] <Trfsrfr> theres more
[03:08] <edbian> scarmichael: you use apt-file
[03:08] <djjonex> truepurple did you try acces thenetwork with another computer?
[03:08] <alex--> Trfsrfr: shutdown can be overheating
[03:08] <scarmichael> edbian:yep that was it
[03:08] <truepurple> djjonex: I dont have any other computers, and it was fine working a bit ago
[03:08] <arthurscience> HP-TOOLS basically just let's people edit the BIOS from windows...aka it's totally useless
[03:08] <scarmichael> thank you for your help, and tipping me off to apt-file
[03:08] <djjonex> truepurple try restarting router & modem
[03:09] <arthurscience> thanks to everyone that provided the input
[03:09] <Trfsrfr> alex--, shut down issues are on laptop, which is known to not work with linux, but i do anyway
[03:09] <djjonex> i need to share files between 2 ubuntu pcs
[03:09] <truepurple> djjonex: I am talking to you on the same PC right now through IRC
[03:09] <Trfsrfr> desktop is way more stable
[03:09] <vectory_> !metaquestion
[03:10] <alex--> Trfsrfr: impedietly shutdown, or it says: shutting down
[03:10] <dr_willis> djjonex:  samba, nfs, ssh/sshfs.. all can do that
[03:10] <djjonex> truepurple: try reset firefox to its default settings
[03:11] <djjonex> dr_willis: which you recommend ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> djjonex:  learning ssh and how to use sshfs - is very hady
[03:11] <dr_willis> djjonex:  it all depends on the details
[03:11] <djjonex> dr_willis: I just need to pass movies lol
[03:12] <truepurple> djjonex: Its not firefox, Midori doesn't work either, neither does pinging google.com from a terminal
[03:12] <bananasdoom> If I install xbuntu over my friends ibook g4 wiping the original mac x os what happens if he wants to go back to mac
[03:12] <dr_willis> ssh/sshfs take 5  min to setup. nfs perhaps 10, samba  perhaps 15 ;)
[03:12] <karex> Is there (command-line) tool to download such URL and convert the link? Maybe like `wget -Kkp page1?arg=value page2?arg=value` {unfortunately wget doesn't change "?" to "%3F"}
[03:12] <wildbat> truepurple: what about ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:12] <Trfsrfr> alex--,  sorry, shut down issues are more laptop related, and I'm aware that its not linux compliant, so its not a huge priority. But what i have noticed between the two is that sometimes random web pages pop up (not porn or pop-ups)  that I had visited prior, but had somehow gotten lost. And alt-tab didnt bring them up.
[03:12] <bananasdoom> can I just download a mac x iso
[03:13] <rww> bananasdoom: You can use the OS X CD that came with the computer.
[03:13] <djjonex> trupurple: ur proxy is fucked up
[03:13] <bananasdoom> he dose not have a c
[03:13] <bananasdoom> d
[03:13] <Trfsrfr> alex--, its like they got lost, but were still open, just not visible.
[03:13] <rww> bananasdoom: Have them go chat with Apple, then.
[03:13] <bananasdoom> I am sure i can download one then
[03:13] <alex--> Trfsrfr: sorry, i dont know
[03:13] <bananasdoom> yea better idea
[03:13] <truepurple> wildbat: You mean "ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[03:13] <rww> bananasdoom: That would be illegal and thus offtopic for this network.
[03:13] <bananasdoom> sory sorry
[03:14] <wildbat> truepurple: did it work?
[03:14] <bananasdoom> did not think
[03:14] <Trfsrfr> alex--, thanks. me neither :-)
[03:14] <vectory_> rww: are you sure thats not just what apple wants you to think?
[03:15] <rww> vectory_: Yes. Silly arguments about EULAs are also offtopic for this channel. What I just said represents channel operator consensus on the matter.
[03:15] <alex--> vectory_: that it's offtopic is?
[03:15] <Trfsrfr> Where does one find known 11.04 bugs?
[03:15] <csdserver> i don't think distributing the iso is where the copyright infringement takes place, it's in using bypasses to keys and security measures to prevent undistributed copies.
[03:15] <sudocomm> last I heard OSX was like $30.
[03:15] <dr_willis> sudocomm:  yep. amazingly cheap cosiderig..
[03:15] <vectory_> sudocomm: the update only?
[03:16] <dr_willis> upgrade that is..
[03:16] <SektorXI> Does anybody know of an IRC for FOSS gaming development/ suggestions?
[03:16] <alex--> vectory_: rww: bananasdoom: #osx-thing
[03:16] <vectory_> SektorXI: do you knbow of tig-source
[03:16] <p_res> what alex-- says. ^^
[03:16] <sudocomm> vectory_: No a friend of mine is a huge apple nut, and he was telling me that he could purchase the full release for that price
[03:16] <SektorXI> vectory_ not at all
[03:17] <dr_willis> sudocomm:  its technically a upgrade  since every apple pc comes with the os.
[03:17] <p_res> rid the apple/mac talk guys.
[03:17] <truepurple> wildbat: You mean  wildbat: You mean "ping -c 4 <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[03:18] <truepurple> dang copy/past error
[03:18] <djjonex> if somebody knows a link for OS X 10.5 for Macbook let me know
[03:18] <SektorXI> vectory_: what is it?
[03:18] <alex--> djjonex: #osx-thing\
[03:18] <alex--> djjonex: #osx-thing
[03:18] <rww> !piracy > djjonex
[03:18] <djjonex> alex--:lol gracias
[03:18] <SektorXI> why in the hell are we talking about OSX & Mac? this is an Ubuntu IRC
[03:19] <djjonex> LMAO!
[03:19] <rww> And yes, it's about time we got back to /Ubuntu/ support.
[03:19] <vectory_> SektorXI: a game dev community, google it, maybe theres a irc channel, its not explicitly foss tho
[03:19] <[snake]> what security should I get/use for my webserver.
[03:19] <alex--> djjonex: click the #osx-thing link
[03:19] <SektorXI> Okay. And on that note if anybody would like a G+ invite hit me up.
[03:20] <alex--> dr_willis: #osx-thing
[03:20] <FernandoTertiary> hola, am getting a error message when attempting to use Package Manager
[03:20] <rww> alex--: Stop that.
[03:20] <jeff_> is G+ better than FB?
[03:20] <rww> !ot | jeff_
[03:20] <alex--> rww: i'm porthign them to the channel to keep it ontopic here :)
[03:20] <vectory_> FernandoTertiary: what msg?
[03:20] <vectory_> can you pastebin it?
[03:20] <[snake]> and could someone point me to the hosts file. The one where you can type in a url and have it redirect to to localhost
[03:20] <Guest67756> Hi there!
[03:21] <djjonex> FernandoTertiary: try update ur machine
[03:21] <rww> [snake]: sudoedit /etc/hosts
[03:22] <xavier__> nsw
[03:22] <SektorXI> jeff_: entirely.
[03:22] <FernandoTertiary> djjonex: http://pastebin.com/RBfvQTHR
[03:22] <jeff_> We need an anti-social network.
[03:22] <truepurple> wildbat: Hello?
[03:23] <wildbat> truepurple: ?
[03:23] <SektorXI> jeff_: that's called multiplayer gaming.
[03:23] <jeff_> lol(:
[03:23] <pooltable> Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 update out is this free and it it a full new installed or just and update?
[03:23] <rww> SektorXI, jeff_: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:24] <SektorXI> rww: sorry
[03:24] <truepurple> wildbat: I asked you a question twice
[03:25] <Northernen> FernandoTertiary, seems like a DNS issue.
[03:25] <vectory_> pooltable: /j rhel
[03:25] <rww> pooltable: this is #ubuntu. Try #rhel.
[03:25] <alex--> !ot
[03:26] <wildbat> truepurple: sorry i was afk ~ yes ping <IP_ADDRESS> , can you ping it ?
[03:26] <djjonex> FernandoTertiary: casi siempre eso es culpa de la internet
[03:26] <alex--> djjonex: !en
[03:26] <alex--> djjonex: !sp
[03:26] <alex--> wait
[03:26] <alex--> how does it works :$
[03:26] <qin> !es
[03:26] <alex--> !sp | djjonex
[03:26] <pooltable> thanks
[03:26] <alex--> !es | djjonex
[03:28] <FernandoTertiary> djjonex: DNS attempts to configure per LAN protocol au lieu WAN
[03:28] <eoss> where is .htpasswd file stored
[03:28] <FernandoTertiary> DYNDNS specifically
[03:28] <eoss> usually
[03:28] <alex--> eoss: depends
[03:29] <eoss> =[
[03:29] <qin> eoss: At document root, but that would be #web
[03:29] <FernandoTertiary> posteri router config, DNS interupts router connectivity if plugged into WAN port
[03:32] <bananasdoom> anyone knwo what the chnage boot pref is for a mac
[03:34] <djjonex> cant setup file trasfer between 2 ubuntu pcs
[03:35] <dr_willis> what have you tried djjonex
[03:35] <nemo> Hey guys.  I have an AR9287 wifi that stalls on large file transfers in Natty
[03:36] <nemo> I ran into:
[03:36] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761176
[03:36] <nemo> which was closed "fix released"
[03:36] <qin> djjonex: scp source destination (need ssh server)
[03:36] <determinology_> misses ubuntu :)
[03:36] <nemo> soooo, clearly not my issue :)
[03:36] <maalac> need help in HP Probook 6555b when on battery mode its freezing up
[03:36] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761176/comments/20 - this person seems to have my problem too, at any rate
[03:36] <aHardyX> Ubuntu 11.04 kernel crasshing http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8238/img5126l.jpg
[03:36] <djjonex> dr_willies: i tried ssh but i got lost
[03:36] <nemo> anyway. I wanted to see if the 2.6.39 kernel really did help...
[03:36] <nemo> so I tried the suggestion from comment 8
[03:36] <djjonex> tried samba then got lost in the terminal
[03:37] <dr_willis> !ssh
[03:37] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761176/comments/8
[03:37] <djjonex> lol ok
[03:37] <nemo> however, after running the addition of the ppa and the apt-get, I don't get prompted for a new kernel
[03:37] <nemo> anyone have any idea why that might be?
[03:37] <aHardyX> So how do I find the log of the kernel to find out whats wrong?
[03:37] <wildbat> djjonex: just right click on nautilus, there is sharing option.
[03:37] <salvy_> I am using NATTY and "Giver" wont start... i click it and nothing happens...
[03:38] <qin> aHardyX: /var/log/kern.log
[03:38] <maalac> i'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and i'm having problems when on battery mode it freezes using HP Probook 6555b
[03:38] <salvy_> anyone else have problems with GIVER in NATTY?
[03:38] <djjonex> wildbat: i need to install something?
[03:39] <wildbat> djjonex: yes it will install samba if you didn't. you should see it in Network in nautilus.
[03:39] <wildbat> djjonex: after you share the folder.
[03:40] <djjonex> plus im kinda lost with Unity
[03:40] <djjonex> i shared the folder already
[03:40] <qin> wildbat: Two ubuntu machines, copy files, why do you need samba for it?
[03:40] <lake> how can I echo a env var on a remote server? Something like: ssh user@host echo $some_var
[03:40] <leiza> hola
[03:40] <leiza> cual es la sala de español
[03:40] <dr_willis> samba is ok.. when it works..
[03:40] <zbw> anyone here?
[03:40] <rww> !es | leiza
[03:40] <wildbat> qin: the easiest for him . cli free
[03:40] <djjonex> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:41] <salvy_> hiya
[03:41] <djjonex> aki somos bilingueeeeee
[03:41] <zbw> hi
[03:41] <qin> dr_willis: hehe
[03:41] <rww> djjonex: You've been told already to speak English only in here.
[03:41] <dr_willis> for ubunto to ubutu    sshfs is what i tend to use
[03:41] <djjonex> kuaajajajaj
[03:41] <wildbat> i perfer sshfs  too :>
[03:41] <Northernen> lake, don't you just have to log in once, and you'll get your terminal just like you were on the actual machine?
[03:42] <qin> dr_willis: rsync -e ssh is also neat.
[03:42] <lake> Northernen: i want it to be automated...
[03:42] <dr_willis> i just set up my other box's /home/username to a  'sshfs/remote/name' via a  script ;)
[03:42] <maalac> it looks like i'm being ignored here ..
[03:43] <salvy_> nm, ill use filezilla
[03:43] <Northernen> maalac, what is the problem?
[03:44] <dr_willis> or no one knows the aswer...
[03:44] <nemo> hm. I see the kernel ppa "prerelease" *does* have fixes for ath
[03:44] <nemo> ath9k that is
[03:44] <nemo> maybe one of them will do the trick
[03:44] <maalac> Northernen: i'm using ubuntu 10.10 when on battery my laptop freezes. I some solution that the fix to downgrade pm-utils to 1.3 but it didnt work
[03:44] <Northernen> dr_willis, you can mount a SSH connection? Sweet, never tried that.
[03:45] <Northernen> maalac, which type laptop?
[03:45] <dr_willis> Northernen:  fuse tools have sshfs, and even other neater tricks
[03:45] <maalac> Northernen: HP Probook 6555b
[03:46] <wildbat> fuse is the best tools linux ever developed ;p
[03:46] <nemo> sshfs is so awesome
[03:46] <dr_willis> right up there with 'dd' ;)
[03:46] <Northernen> maalac, it freezes during boot, or once you're done boothing?
[03:47] <nemo> sshfs + autofs ftw
[03:47] <maalac> Northernen: only when i unplugged the power or battery mode ..
[03:47] <dr_willis> i need to try that samba-fuse stuff again. it was broke for a long time
[03:48] <Northernen> maalac, the pm-utils fix did not work?
[03:49] <maalac> Northernen: downgraded it to 1.3 work only for sometime after that .it came back again .
[03:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:49] <qin> maalac: Do reconnection to power unfrezze system? Can you make "snapshot" form logs of this happening?
[03:49] <bananasdoom> If I have a new install on an old pc should i go with the super stable release(10.04) or the new release 11.04
[03:50] <maalac> qin: no, i have to complete power down
[03:51] <sublim21> hello all.  new linux guy here
[03:51] <qin> maalac: What version of pm-util do you have right nwo?
[03:51] <wildbat> bananasdoom: depends if you want it stable or not.
[03:51] <bananasdoom> stable
[03:51] <bananasdoom> of course
[03:51] <Northernen> maalac, it seems to be a reported 10.04/10.10 bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/684164
[03:51] <wildbat> bananasdoom: then 10.04 then.
[03:52] <maalac> qin: current version : pm-utils 1.4.-1-3
[03:52] <bananasdoom> thanks wildbat
[03:52] <Northernen> maalac, seems related to the WLAN drivers on HP machines.
[03:53] <maalac> Northernen: how do we fix it ?
[03:53] <qin> maalac: So, you said that it worked with 1.3, right?
[03:54] <maalac> quin: only for a few times but after that ..it never worke..
[03:54] <Northernen> maalac, doesn't seem to be a fix, but some people have come up with some work-arounds. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/684164 post #6.
[03:55] <Northernen> sublim21, welcome.
[03:55] <sudocomm> maalac:  why not upgrade to 11.04?
[03:55] <yichenglong> 有没有中国人？
[03:55] <xangua> !ch | yichenglong
[03:55] <rww> !cn | yichenglong
[03:55] <xangua> mmm nos chinese :S
[03:55] <rww> xangua: That was Swiss ;)
[03:55] <yichenglong> hello
[03:55] <Northernen> maalac, or try upgrading kernel. Not sure which kernel version 10.10 has.
[03:55] <overrider_> Hi - i downloaded the ubuntu 10.04 alternative iso and would like to install a commandline only system, but cannot find any such option when booting from the iso. Where is it hidden? :-)  Thanks
[03:55] <maalac> sudocomm: i did upgrade it before ..but lot of issues ..
[03:56] <xangua> !minimal | overrider_
[03:56] <maalac> Northernen: this is my current kernel 2.6.35-30-generic-pae
[03:56] <sudocomm> maalac:  Ah was just wondering
[03:56] <yichenglong> wrher are you from?
[03:56] <wildbat> that bot need a update #ubuntu-hk no longer have anyone XD
[03:56] <overrider_> xangua: I got the minimal disk - but its soo slow that after a whole night of downloading its still not done. Cant i do the same thing via the alternative install?
[03:57] <sublim21> can someone help me with something that should be easy?  i just installed ubuntu and im trying to use ppa to achieve this https://launchpad.net/~couchapp/+archive/couchapp
[03:57] <xangua> overrider_: you just said you had the alternate cd, not minimal
[03:57] <nemo> nope. that didn't help. damn
[03:57] <qin> overrider_: Any install booted with "text" parameter is Xless
[03:57] <sublim21> i mean, im brand new, so perhaps this is really easy but i don't know what to write in terminal...
[03:57] <Northernen> maalac, might want to upgrade then. Or just upgrade to 11.04.
[03:57] <overrider_> xangua: i tried the minimal yesterday, today got the alternative
[03:57] <nemo> well. I've found a use for my wifi kill switch.  is a quick way to restart wifi after scp freezes every couple of hundred megabytes
[03:58] <nemo> oh well. time to file another bug I guess
[03:58] <maalac> Northernen: i did upgrade i have lots problem when i did that ..freezing on bootup ..
[03:58] <qin> nemo: Is it wifi?
[03:58] <xangua> sublim21: the instructions are on the ppa's web itself
[03:59] <Northernen> subanomi1, you can just edit the file itself, don't need to add it through terminal.
[03:59] <xangua> sublim21: sudo add-apt-repository 'ppa's name'
[03:59] <xangua> remember you use a ppa on your Own Risk
[03:59] <uabn93> sublim21: what xangua said. click on "read about installing"
[03:59] <Northernen> maalac, tried removing pm-utils altogether?
[03:59] <sublim21> xangua: tried that.  but no luck
[03:59] <nit-wit> sublim21, this is a link from that page.  https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[03:59] <maalac> Northernen: not yet ..
[03:59] <nemo> qin: AR9287
[04:00] <maalac> Northernen:  if i do that will my laptop still work on battery mode ?
[04:00] <xangua> sublim21: define 'no luck'
[04:00] <nemo> qin: freezes on large file transfers. was hopeful one of the suggestions in bug #761176 would help, but so far... :(
[04:00] <Northernen> maalac, battery will still work, but you won't be able to manage it.
[04:00] <overrider_> So the install commandline system has gone from the alternative iso, and can only be done via the minimal cd?
[04:01] <nemo> qin: only fix is to toggle kill switch forcing switch forcing reconnect. I've done it 3 times in past few minutes
[04:01] <xangua> sublim21: as i can see in that ppa, All packages Failed to Build
[04:01] <maalac> Northernen: dats ok. as long as everything is working. what exactlly do you mean you can't manage it? is this mean i can't do suspend or hibernate /
[04:01] <qin> nemo: I ment, wifi often cannot (weak router) handle massive traffic, try to reduce bandwith in router.
[04:01] <sublim21> xangua: what does that mean?
[04:01] <xangua> that All ppackages Failed to Build
[04:01] <sublim21> thats bad isn't it
[04:02] <xangua> no packages
[04:02] <sublim21> sooo...this no work then
[04:02] <uabn93> sublim21: maybe it isnt supported for the version of ubuntu you are using
[04:02] <nemo> qin: ehmdoubt it. no issues on any other system on this network.
[04:02] <Northernen> maalac, you won't be able to see how much time left on battery (I think), and you won't be able to manage suspend or hibernate (at least through GUI, there are probably commands for it).
[04:02] <nemo> qin: also plenty of other reports with this card.
[04:02] <maalac> Northernen: dats ok. i'll probably do that ..
[04:03] <qin> nemo: Maybe card then.
[04:03] <uabn93> sublim21: or the ppa is crap
[04:03] <sublim21> uabn93: perhaps.
[04:03] <maalac> Northernen: Thanks a lot ...
[04:03] <Northernen> maalac, worth a try. If nothing else, you'll determine whether pm-utils is the culprit or not.
[04:03] <nemo> qin: but I'll doublecheck on the 2nd laptop...
[04:04] <Northernen> maalac, no worries. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
[04:04] <maalac> Northernen: thanks ..
[04:05] <uabn93> sublim21: i guess youll have to compile it yourself
[04:05] <nemo> qin: also way it hangs seems suspicious for router - all other machines on network are fine, but this one goes completely unresponsive (even to a simple ping) until I disconnect/reconnect
[04:06] <sublim21> uabn93: actually, i got it now.  there's another method listed on the website with this pip thingy.  long story short,its going now.  thanks for your help.  quick question, how do i copy text quickly in ubuntu?  ctr-c, ctrl-shift-c all no work :/
[04:06] <qin> nemo: Then your messages and syslog should show it.
[04:08] <qin> sublim21: Highlight and middle click
[04:08] <sublim21> qin: middle click?  im on a netbook.  they have stolen my middle click
[04:08] <jeffrash> I've got a quick question about the unity notification area
[04:08] <qin> sublim21: right/left at the same time
[04:08] <rypervenche> sublim21: Try pressing left and right click at the same time.
[04:09] <qin> jeffrash: nitify-send "jeff" "ask aquestion" -t 1000
[04:09] <sublim21> wow thats smart.  it knows, oh, you got something highlighted.  im copying.  oh you got nothing highlighted?  im pastying
[04:09] <qin> *notify
[04:10] <charged_bolt> Hey, my update manager shows "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64" shall I update it ?
[04:10] <jeffrash> qin, I've just installed google music manager and it's suppose to have an icon in the notification area.
[04:10] <charged_bolt> don't wanna break things up :|
[04:11] <qin> sublim21: Sometimes, you need to specity with click where you paste, otherwise you will finish with password in google (in html text areas)
[04:11] <jeffrash> qin, how do I get it in unity on 11.04?
[04:11] <xangua> jeffrash: there is no notification area in ubuntu no more, or at least i don't know how to add it in unity
[04:11] <sublim21> qin: k
[04:12] <JsinLegacy> anyone tried installing Ubuntu on the Samsung Qx411
[04:12] <jeffrash> xanqua, that's seems odd.
[04:12] <dr_willis> it most likely needs to be addeded to the whitelist of apps allowed to appear in the indicator applet area
[04:12] <dr_willis> webupd8 blog site and other sites discuss how to whitelist  the notification type icons
[04:14] <dr_willis> i just cheat and run some dock/awn/docky thing that has the old fashioed system tray type feature/addon
[04:14] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#wordpress,130)
[04:15] <uabn93> is there anything webupd8 hasn't covered? :)
[04:15] <yichenglong> I want to look for a teacher
[04:15] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#mysql,74)
[04:16] <littlebearz> muiro
[04:16] <overrider_> Is there a way to install a minimal System without the minimal.iso? Cant find the commandline only option on the alternative cd boot. Sorry to be a pain, need a minimal system though :-)  Using the mini.iso takes too long to download on my crappy connection
[04:16] <qin> overrider_: ubuntu-server?
[04:17] <ParadigmUltra> Am I the only person in 11.4 who keeps losing the ability to click on windows because of minized apps stealing focus??
[04:17] <dr_willis> alt cd has a console only install i recall. but never used it either.. but that may not be minimal
[04:17] <[snake]> My windows partition used to show up in my places tab (im on ubuntu 10.04 64bit), but now I need to manually mount using sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[04:17] <[snake]> how can I make it in my places again
[04:17] <charged_bolt> Hey, my update manager shows "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64" shall I update it ? don't wanna break up things :|
[04:17] <overrider_> qin: is the ubuntu server the same install as if i do a minimal ?
[04:17] <overrider_> yeah so thats the question :-/
[04:17] <[snake]> charged_bolt, definatley.
[04:17] <uabn93> how do you run a shell script through the terminal?
[04:18] <dr_willis> i dont think server=minimal
[04:18] <charged_bolt> [snake]: ok, thanks!
[04:18] <ParadigmUltra> [snake]: ./scriptname
[04:18] <sagaci> [snake]: you can add it to your /etc/fstab
[04:18] <qin> overrider_: No, but whole gnome is absent, it does have different configuration and kernel too.
[04:18] <dr_willis> uabn93:  chmod +x thething    then ./thething
[04:18] <nit-wit> [snake], take a look at the windows partition in gparted, you will probably see errors and a suggestion of running a chkdsk.
[04:18] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#ubuntu,291)
[04:18] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#ubuntu,302)
[04:18] <sagaci> dr_willis: alt cd is just alt install.. you can install a desktop environment from the alt cd
[04:18] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#ubuntu,325)
[04:19] <qin> littlebearz: Stop?
[04:19] <dr_willis> sagaci:  and a text only option exists on it.. somewhere  ive heard
[04:19] <sagaci> yep
[04:20] <piter_den> is anybody there?
[04:20] <sagaci> overrider_: no, minimal is the same as alternate, but you download the packages when you install, alternate has the base packages on the iso
[04:20] <dr_willis> now where ya get to that from is what  overrider_  was wanting to learn i think
[04:20] <uabn93> dr_willis: great. thanks
[04:20] <dr_willis> minimal install is just a minimal bootup then eh?
[04:20] <overrider_> sagaci: Ok thats why i got the alternate. Now how to install / choose a commandline only system when booting from tha alternative media ?
[04:21] <sagaci> overrider_: it'll ask you through the install if you want to install a desktop environment
[04:21] <sagaci> dr_willis: yeah kinda, just gets you to a minimal install where it pulls the packages over the net
[04:22] <jeffrash_> xangua, found something
[04:22] <jeffrash_> xangua, gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[04:22] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#ubuntu,297)
[04:22] <dr_willis> jeffrash_:  using all can cause issues....
[04:23] <jeffrash_> dr_willis
[04:23] <nemo> qin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/816231
[04:23] <rww> littlebearz: Hi. Whatever silliness you're doing is being echoed to #ubuntu. Stop it.
[04:23] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, yes I understand
[04:23] <littlebearz> $VPS.GetNick(14,#ubuntu,698)
[04:23] <qin> nemo: I am VGN-F11, close, what chipset is it?
[04:24] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, working on just enabling the ones I need
[04:24] <qin> LtHummus: 1411
[04:24] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, like google music manger
[04:25] <dr_willis> jeffrash_:  i uae awn, or other docks that have the same 'area' for the icons
[04:25] <nemo> qin: dumped lspci in the bug info
[04:25] <csdserver> how can i drop out of X server so i can install some drivers in a basic telinit 3 runlevel?
[04:26] <dr_willis> csdserver:  sudo service gdm stop
[04:26] <dr_willis> csdserver:  what drivers? ati or nvidia/ ;)
[04:26] <rww> csdserver: ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo service gdm stop (or kdm on Kubuntu)
[04:26] <csdserver> nvidia =)
[04:26] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, I'd like to stay native unity as much as possible
[04:26] <dr_willis> you did use the repo drivers first?
[04:26] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, but they are not making it easy
[04:27] <csdserver> yes, they're installed on my failsafe partition
[04:27] <dr_willis> jeffrash_:  i say phht. to that. i got unity setup my way ;)
[04:27] <jeffrash_> dr_willis, understood
[04:27] <dr_willis> i even found ways for classic gnome meus in unity
[04:28] <jeffrash_> that's cool
[04:28] <[snake]> I'm helping out a friend who installed ubuntu 11.04 inside windows(not vb, the wubi installer). when he's inside linux he can't find his windows files. where should they be?
[04:28] <dr_willis> somthing they should have done to begin with.. ;)
[04:29] <rww> [snake]: /host, I believe
[04:29] <jeffrash_> that's just thought I'd share what I found as several had said it couldn't be done
[04:29] <jeffrash_> thanks
[04:32] <csdwifi> woosh, might as well get on this instead while i'm working on it.  So that command was `sudo gdm stop`?
[04:32] <dr_willis> service  commad.....
[04:33] <dr_willis> gdm is a service
[04:33] <dr_willis> sudo service gdm stop
[04:34] <sab0tage> might want to make sure your working from a terminal only Ctrl+Alt+F1[F6]
[04:34] <csdwifi> aha, that's a new distinction for me, i'm slacking off on reading (summer, can't blame me)
[04:35] <sab0tage> finally got vlc to run as root whoohoo!
[04:35] <qin> sab0tage: sudo vlc ?
[04:36] <KM0201> sab0tage: why on earth woul dyou do that?
[04:36] <sab0tage> no, unfortunately, vlc has hopped on the bandwaggon of not allowing that, so had to recompile with --enable-run-as-root flag, and for the longest time, I couldn't satisfy the dependecies for the source until now
[04:36] <rww> KM0201: good question o_o
[04:36] <sab0tage> because I am root
[04:36] <Northernen> sab0tage, couldn't you set attributes on it?
[04:36] <sab0tage> always
[04:37] <computer_> before i install ubuntu, should i use raid, ide, or the other one i forget the name???
[04:37] <dr_willis> thats sort of like bosting you are drunk... always... ;)   but i will leave it at that..
[04:38] <csdwifi> at my user login screen if i just do the ctrl+alt+f1 tty shell  , I also ran `sudo apt-get update` and received some 'wicked' resolve errors on natty/Release.gpg fetch.
[04:38] <rww> computer_: AHCI?
[04:38] <computer_> yeah i think so
[04:38] <qin> sab0tage: sudo /usr/bin/vlc-wrapper movie
[04:38] <maum> hello I cannot hear any sound on ubuntu 11.04
[04:38] <rww> computer_: RAID if you intend to use RAID (and know what that is ;), AHCI otherwise
[04:39] <dc5ala> maum: check your volume, had it muted on 2 machines
[04:39] <sab0tage> yeah, wrapper wouldn't work for me either.
[04:39] <csdwifi> anyway, the good news is that i'm NOW at the nvidia patch screen so thanks for that everyone who helped
[04:39] <computer_> i tried to install ubuntu with raid but it wouldnt let me
[04:39] <maum> dc5ala, unmuted and volume is right.
[04:39] <sab0tage> I tried xhost +localhost and using wrapper as root, but still wouldn't work
[04:39] <Northernen> AHCI is SATA?
[04:39] <rww> sab0tage: Do you have an Ubuntu technical support question?
[04:40] <sab0tage> no
[04:40] <sab0tage> why?
[04:40] <sab0tage> I'm here provided support buddy
[04:40] <sab0tage> do you have a question rww?
[04:40] <rww> sab0tage: #ubuntu is for technical support, not chat. We also specifically disagree with running as root, and thus it's best if you take this conversation elsewhere.
[04:40] <csdwifi> crap... installing the 275 nvidia driver for my 9600 gt, pre-install script failed - anyone know if this is normal?
[04:41] <dc5ala> maum: check hardware in audio settings, using more than one sound device maybe?
[04:41] <computer_> here is my laptop that i am using http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT683.html
[04:41] <maum> dc5ala, where can I check the hardware?
[04:41] <sab0tage> I just fixed my sound with installing alsa-oss the other day.
[04:41] <sab0tage> might be worth checking out
[04:41] <sab0tage> pulseaudio is a mess...
[04:41] <dc5ala> maum: right click on little speaker in the bar
[04:42] <maum> dc5ala, there is no hardware in sound preference
[04:42] <computer_> i installed ubuntu using ide, but now i just might reinstall so i can use ahci
[04:42] <sab0tage> dc5ala, what desktop environment are u using?  gnome, kde, unity?
[04:42] <maum> dc5ala, how can I set the hardware?
[04:42] <sab0tage> maum, actually I was asking you that, desktop?
[04:43] <maum> sab0tage, yes and I opened sound preference
[04:43] <computer_> or if there is a way to install ubuntu using raid then i would need help
[04:43] <philipballew> how would i install lxde without installing any extra apps?
[04:43] <maum> sab0tage, there is no device in hardware tab
[04:44] <dc5ala> maum: it usually lists found sound hardware there. You should find out what hardware you are using.
[04:44] <maum> sab0tage, I'm using ubuntu
[04:44] <maum> dc5ala,  but there is no divice... it is strange.
[04:45] <sab0tage> lspci | grep Audio maum
[04:45] <maum> sab0tage, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
[04:46] <computer_> is it possible to install ubuntu with raid?
[04:47] <computer_> any1 has some kind of guide i can follow
[04:47] <computer_> ?
[04:47] <votz> I installed windows 7 which broke grub, and I attempted to re-install grub following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, but now upon boot I get the grub shell. Any ideas what might have gone wrong?
[04:49] <sab0tage> try grub-restore
[04:49] <votz> sab0tage: from the grub shell upon boot? or from the live-cd"?
[04:49] <votz> I assume the latter
[04:49] <computer_> :-(
[04:49] <votz> also if it matters, the old grub was originally installed by fedora 13
[04:49] <sab0tage> from the live cd.  did you use the correct parititon when installing grub "ie. grub-install /dev/<device>
[04:50] <qin> !lvm
[04:50] <qin> !raid
[04:50] <computer_> thanks will take a look
[04:50] <votz> sab0tage: I believe so if for no other reason than it used to boot windows, and now boots into grub shell
[04:50] <maum> sab0tage, how to install audio drive?
[04:51] <qin> !madam
[04:51] <Corey> !madm
[04:51] <welly> Hello chaps. I've got a box that I'm planning on sticking ubuntu server on. I don't have an external screen of any kind and don't have access to one. What would be the best way of getting it up and running? :)
[04:51] <sab0tage> maum Add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf
[04:51] <sab0tage> 2. Install pulse audio. Strangely this was not installed and conflicted with patterns-openSUSE-kde4_pure which I had to remove.
[04:51] <Corey> welly: Serial console.
[04:51] <sab0tage> I got that from here:  http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/development/open-build-service-obs/450686-no-sound-intel-corporation-5-series-3400-series-chipset-high-definition-audio.html  seems to fix a lot of intel chipsets
[04:52] <votz> sab0tage: also, does grub-restore care about grub2 vs grub legacy?
[04:52] <votz> to tell you the truth, Im not sure which is in use. both grub.conf and menu.lst exist and have the same contents
[04:52] <sab0tage> umm, can't say for sure,  I don't think so, but you might want to research
[04:52] <maum> sab0tage, where? I don't know what you talking to me
[04:52] <welly> Corey: Heh.. I guess it might be easier for me to just source a screen. but I'd rather not spend money on a screen if I don't have to
[04:52] <sab0tage> maum, you need to go to that link or just put that line in that conf file
[04:53] <qmake> hello guys, can i bind key combination to one key in xmodmap? and How?
[04:53] <TBotNik> All: On my wifi to lan ICS bridge I was reading that one thing that causes problems is IPv6 and most seem to be disabling it to make the dhcp3-server and bridging work.  Do you all agree with that?
[04:53] <sab0tage> there are similar lines already in that file, you might just have to change the last part to auto, or if it's not there, add it
[04:54] <maum> sab0tage, link?
[04:54] <sab0tage> http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/development/open-build-service-obs/450686-no-sound-intel-corporation-5-series-3400-series-chipset-high-definition-audio.html
[04:54] <sab0tage> last entry is your solution, not tough at all.
[04:55] <sab0tage> anyone here got selenium working in firefox 4?
[04:55] <qmake> hello guys, i want to bind "Alt + F2" to "Win" key, how can  i achieve this?
[04:55] <TBotNik> K since already in synaptic will remove IPv6.
[04:56] <x64> System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
[04:56] <sab0tage> no, just disable ipv6, unless you don't use it, but I wouldn't uninstall
[04:56] <sab0tage> dhcp3-server probably has it's own option for disabling in dhcp.conf
[04:57] <maum> sab0tage, i don't know where can I add Add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf
[04:57] <maalac> qin: it work after removing pm-utils completely
[04:57] <qmake> x64, maybe that's a solution, but I need more, like bind "control + pgDn" to "Control_R"
[04:57] <sab0tage> type "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" into file /etc/modprobe.d/50-sound.conf, how hard is that.  If you don't understand, go use windows again.
[04:58] <x64> Or read the documentation.
[04:58] <maum> sab0tage, there is no 50-sound.conf file in the directory and I'm using ubuntu
[04:58] <TBotNik> All: If this fixes this I will be soooooooooooooooo happy!!!
[04:59] <votz> sab0tage: there is no command 'grub-restore'
[04:59] <Northernen> maalac, it did work?
[04:59] <maalac> Nothernen: it work after removing pm-utils completely. it's not freeinzg anymore. but i can't do hibernate or suspend and it still shows battery time ..
[04:59] <sab0tage> did you try restore-grub
[04:59] <Northernen> maalac, not ideal, but beats freezing I suppose.
[04:59] <maum> sab0tage,  me?
[04:59] <maalac> Northernen: proven that the problem is the pm-utils.
[05:00] <votz> sab0tage:  nothing for 'restore-grub', either
[05:00] <Northernen> maalac, aye, seems so. Especially weird as there are reports of the early versions work better than the later.
[05:01] <sab0tage> did you check out your grub.conf file or menu.lst?  I would issue the update-initramfs -u -k all command and then try to reinstall grub
[05:01] <dc5ala> maum: there is a alsa-base.conf in that directory, you can try that
[05:01] <Northernen> sab0tage, no menu.lst in 11.04.
[05:01] <sab0tage> sounds like it's not finding the image
[05:01] <raphael> are there any hazards of using bash instead of dash besides just a slow boot?
[05:01] <maalac> Northernen: i'm sticking into this version for the meantime. I don't seem to find any reason to upgrade. i dont seem to like the unity gui's
[05:01] <sab0tage> I'm rebooting peeps, ill brb
[05:02] <Northernen> maalac, Unity truly is proper rubbish. I agree.
[05:02] <raphael> Rick James> Unity!
[05:02] <Northernen> maalac, but you can still choose Gnome classic in login menu though, if you so wish.
[05:04] <maalac> Northernen: Thank's a lot for your suggestion. That save my day .
[05:05] <TBotNik> All:  See there is no way to disable IPv6 from synaptic so had to follow HOWTO at: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html  Hope this is all good, as from the descript will have to go down for reboot on this.
[05:05] <Northernen> maalac, no worries. Just a Linux beginner myself, but I try to help if I can.
[05:05] <TBotNik> I'll give ya'll a little time to comment, before I reboot.  Thanks!
[05:05] <Northernen> maalac, no freezes so far?
[05:06] <maalac> Northernen: yes, i tried it several times while chatting with you ...
[05:06] <xangua> TBotNik: why would you want to disable ipv6 ¿ o_O that's crazy
[05:06] <dc5ala> maum: you got that line into the file or need help with it?
[05:07] <TBotNik> xangua: Cause all the write ups and HOWTOs on inet bridging says causes problems, and I got those problems.
[05:08] <TBotNik> All: Eureka, I'm in and it is working and without the reboot. Ohhh Happppppyyy Dayyyy!!!!
[05:10] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone know why KPackageKit is DLing at 10 KBPS?
[05:11] <theadmin> Kaleidoscope: Is the problem specific to KPackageKit, i.e. does apt-get work?
[05:11] <maalac> Northernen: i think it just did freeze on me ..
[05:11] <TBotNik> All: Well not all works.  Boohoo!  The dhcp3-server is giving me IPs on the network, but DNS is not working or passing through so ping from the Win box is not getting through for "ping www.google.com" the basic ping test.  What now?
[05:11] <Kaleidoscope> Didn't try Apt-get, however firefox DL's at fullspeed
[05:12] <Kaleidoscope> Lemme try apt-get
[05:12] <Kaleidoscope> brb
[05:12] <Northernen> maalac, while on battery?
[05:12] <TBotNik> All: I assume I need something from the wlan0 nameservers, passed through to the eth0 port, so need to find that now.  Help please almost there.
[05:13] <maalac> Northernen: yes i don't know why is he doing that ..
[05:13] <Northernen> maalac, you've got all the newest drivers?
[05:13] <Kaleidoscope> I need something to apt-get
[05:13] <maalac> Nothernen: yes i do ..
[05:15] <TBotNik> BRB rebooting to see if I go all the way with reboot.
[05:16] <Northernen> maalac, if you don't want to upgrade to 11.04, upgrade the kernel? Seems to fix it for some at least.
[05:18] <maalac> Northernen: what is the latest kernel?
[05:19] <Northernen> maalac, kernel.org. 11.04 comes with 2.6.38 I believe. Newest I think is 2.6.39.x.
[05:19] <theadmin> maalac: 3.0
[05:19] <Northernen> theadmin, 3.0?
[05:20] <Skater187> Hey everyone!
[05:20] <maalac> theadmin: thanks. do you have the link where i can download ?
[05:20] <Skater187> How are you?
[05:20] <Skater187> I need a bit of a assist with a Ubuntu 11.04 ARM install
[05:20] <theadmin> Northernen: 3.0 is the latest kernel
[05:20] <theadmin> maalac: kernel.org
[05:22] <Northernen> theadmin, when was 2.0 released, do you know?
[05:22] <theadmin> Northernen: 2.0? No idea
[05:22] <theadmin> Northernen: I suppose I didn't even live then
[05:22] <theadmin> Northernen: 3.0, however, was released 22nd July 2011
[05:23] <Northernen> theadmin, hehe. 2.6.39 is the latest stable though. 3.0 still experimental. Considering it was released 22/7-2011, probably experimental a while longer.
[05:24] <sweet> i coudnt install skype in my copmputer ubuntu 10.04?
[05:24] <rww> Northernen: 2.0 came out in 1996. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/cdf3cfeca3e82219ddcab20550e85406.png
[05:24] <x64> Why not?
[05:25] <rww> Northernen: also, 3.0 is the latest stable. It's not "experimental".
[05:25] <rww> just not on any released Ubuntu :P
[05:25] <maalac> Northernen: will try dat..
[05:25] <Northernen> rww, says 'latest stable kernel' is 2.39.3 on kernel.org? Or am I looking wrong?
[05:26] <dc5ala> sweet: and why not? Do you get any error?
[05:27] <rww> Northernen: 'mainline' is the most recent Linux release. 'stable' are kernels that have been out a while and are getting security and driver fixes backported to them.
[05:27] <x64> sweet, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[05:27] <Northernen> rww, 2.0 in 1996. Is it wrong to find the 3.0 release quite exciting then?
[05:27] <Northernen> rww, oooh. I see.
[05:27] <rww> Northernen: 2.x to 3.x is an arbitrary version increment, it doesn't signify more major changes than 2.6.38 to 2.6.39
[05:28] <theadmin> Northernen: Linus was just tired of being stuck in the 2.x.x branch
[05:28] <Northernen> I though it was major.minor.patch?
[05:29] <sweet> dc5ala: yeah when i was try to  download it says faild to download skype even iw as try to edit in repository  but there is no soulution?
[05:29] <rww> Northernen: http://lwn.net/Articles/452531/
[05:29] <theadmin> Northernen: The traditional versioning scheme is "major.minor.release.revision.patch"
[05:30] <sweet> x64: i was try to do like that but still i coudnt install skype it says faild to download?
[05:30] <bicepjai> currently  facing http://postimage.org/image/1lsxqj0pw/
[05:30] <x64> Try: echo "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free #Skype" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null && sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xd66b746e &&sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[05:30] <TBotNik> All: Well reboot did not fix the nameserver issues.  Taking a small break to update my forum posts and config posts on this.  BRB
[05:31] <bicepjai> i compiled and loaded <IP_ADDRESS> and facing these issues, can anyone help !
[05:31] <Kaleidoscope> Ok, Tried Apt-get still going extremely slow
[05:32] <Northernen> theadmin, hah, thought you were just joking with the regards to the 2.x.x branch. Apparently not.
[05:32] <theadmin> x64: God, there is "add-apt-repository" for adding repos, no need for such a mess
[05:32] <dc5ala> sweet: you can also download it from skype.com and install the .deb from there if you have trouble with the repository
[05:32] <jeff_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[05:33] <KM0201> bicepjai: busy box is bad, bad, bad
[05:34] <theadmin> Northernen: I wasn't.
[05:35] <bicepjai> KM0201 ... trying to compile and load linux kernel thru virtual box
[05:35] <bicepjai> i compiled and got this issue when loading ... any suggestions ?
[05:36] <Kaleidoscope> Anyone?
[05:37] <x64> Kal what's the problem?
[05:37] <Kaleidoscope> Both KPackageKit and Apt-get are Downloading extremely slow
[05:37] <theadmin> Kaleidoscope: Well change your repositories
[05:37] <x64> Which rep are you downloading from?
[05:38] <sweet> x64:http://pastie.org/2272342
[05:38] <Kaleidoscope> all the Us.Archive.Ubuntu ones
[05:39] <Kaleidoscope> Far as I know, these reps are fine
[05:40] <x64> Some repositories are slower than others.
[05:40] <Kaleidoscope> I did recently reinstall my linux, and before They were DLing fine, full speed, Now though, they're slow
[05:41] <nit-wit> Kaleidoscope, do you know how to change the Ubuntu repo's
[05:41] <Kaleidoscope> Yessir
[05:42] <nit-wit> cool
[05:42] <rww> Kaleidoscope: us.archive.ubuntu.com has extremely variable performance, as it's used by lots of users. Pick a different mirror.
[05:42] <Kaleidoscope> Know where any mirrors are listed?
[05:43] <x64> Is it a specific application?
[05:43] <rww> Kaleidoscope: System Settings -> Software Management -> Settings -> Edit Origins -> Download from:
[05:43] <rww> (Other... is probably your best bet)
[05:44] <x64> Sweet did you follow the documentation?
[05:44] <rww> x64: What?
[05:44] <Northernen> rww, doesn't it choose repos dynamically? I'm downloading from Norwegian servers.
[05:45] <sweet> x64:yes
[05:45] <rww> Northernen: no
[05:45] <Kaleidoscope> rww, Yea, here we go, Got a closer one and gettin good speeds
[05:45] <rww> x64: oh, nvm.
[05:45] <Kaleidoscope> Many thanks ^^
[05:45] <x64> And you're still getting that error?
[05:45] <kingmilo> Hi gents.
[05:45] <Northernen> rww, repos based on keyboard layouts then?
[05:46] <rww> Northernen: I have no idea. I'd suspect timezone.
[05:46] <votz> When attempting to install Ubuntu on a machine w/ a fakeraid RAID1 array, Ubuntu doesn't detect any hard drives. How can I get around this?
[05:46] <Northernen> rww, that would make more sense indeed.
[05:46] <rww> Northernen: come to think of it, I accidentally selected a TZ in Canada once and ended up with ca.archive.ubuntu.com, so I think that is it.
[05:46] <kingmilo> Strange thing in Natty. Adobe and Skype windows both seem to be missing visible scrollbars, so i can scroll up/down by clicking in the whitespace but there is no visible scrollbar. Additionally I cannot see radiobuttons or checkboxes but they are there. Everything else works fine ie nautilus has crollbars etc.
[05:47] <Northernen> rww, US based?
[05:47] <rww> Northernen: I live in California, yes.
[05:47] <wildbat> votz: install from alternate CD.
[05:47] <votz> wildbat: alternate CD?
[05:47] <x64> sweet: Have you enabled other software repositories?
[05:47] <kingmilo> Any ideas, i must also note that I removed the new scrollbars, so I have the regular ones.
[05:48] <lolcat> Hello, how can I decrypt my homefolder in a  chroot enviroment?
[05:48] <csdserver> whats the fastest way to get two ubuntu machines communicating over my router for file share?
[05:48] <sweet> x64:yes
[05:48] <Northernen> rww, shouldn't be too much delay to Canadian servers then?
[05:48] <rww> Northernen: There wasn't, no.
[05:49] <charlietango> Hola, is anyone aware of a way to remove (or delay) the black contact list info popup in empathy?
[05:49] <votz> wildbat: what's an alternate CD?
[05:50] <wildbat> !alt >votz
[05:50] <votz> wildbat: ah, thanks
[05:50] <votz> I'll try just that
[05:51] <gogeta1> csdserver: samba ftp etc
[05:52] <lolcat> If I forgot the passphrase and password for my encrypted home directory, am I totaly and utterly screwed?
[05:52] <Northernen> lolcat, logic would certainly dictate so.
[05:53] <lolcat> So there is no way to decrypt it without it?
[05:53] <vlt> lolcat: No, just restore from your backup ;-)
[05:54] <kingmilo> Would anyone know why Adobe & Skype are missing visible scrollbars and checkboxes and radiobuttons, ability to highlight etc? But its still functional if you can guess where they are!
[05:54] <Northernen> Wouldn't be much point in encrypting anything really, if anyone could just decrypt it.
[05:54] <charlietango> lolcat, I believe you should have received some type of long string encryption recovery key upon first boot after electing to encrypt your home directory
[05:54] <gogeta1> kingmilo: couse they are nice and hidden couse unity hates you
[05:54] <csdserver> ok, i had been using samba but i'm not sure about my network configuration at all.  can someone take a look at some of my conf files to make sure i'm not making some common errors?  i'll pastebin what is needed
[05:55] <dc5ala> kingmilo, you have esoteric radiobuttons, they are just in another meta space, alternatively try classic desktop
[05:55] <charlietango> lolcat, let me see if i can find the exact name of mine
[05:55] <kingmilo> dc5ala: My hardware doesnt allow for Unity sidebar so i assume it falls back to classic. Also this is a ltsp environment with 200+ users.
[05:56] <lolcat> charlietango: I did, I thougth nothing of it and left it
[05:56] <lolcat> vlt: THis is my backup :P
[05:56] <vlt> lolcat: I knew.
[05:57] <lolcat> Info: Check the system log for more information from libecryptfs
[05:57] <lolcat> What log is that refering to?
[05:57] <dc5ala> kingmilo, and it happens on multiple client machines?
[05:58] <kingmilo> dc5ala: Yup, every user at every station has the same problem, but only with skype and adobe. I know skype is based on Qt so wondering if that has soming to do with it. Nautilius and anything directly gnome related is fine.
[05:58] <csdserver> http://paste.ubuntu.com/652205/
[05:59] <kingmilo> dc5ala: As mentioned above I removed the gastly new scrollbars in natty so that might have something to do with it, I now operate with the old style scrollbars.
[06:00] <dc5ala> kingmilo, hmm with adobe i assume you mean flash? You can browse a site with fash content and disable hardware acceleration via context menu
[06:01] <kingmilo> dc5ala: apologies for not being clear, i mean adobe reader. Ill paste a screenshot shortly
[06:01] <Northernen> I do wonder why the Ubuntu team made Unity their default desktop environment, especially since there is so little modification available.
[06:02] <x64> I don't like it.
[06:02] <snuxoll> Northernen: ubuntu isn't about modification, it's about getting a sane desktop out of the box ready to go
[06:02] <snuxoll> Northernen: if you are a tweaker there is better distros suited to your needs
[06:03] <hub> slackware :P
[06:03] <snuxoll> or arch
[06:03] <x64> arch.
[06:03] <Northernen> snuxoll, I would like to be able to move the bar various places.
[06:03] <lolcat> If you have lost your wrapped-passphrase file, and you did not record your mount passphrase, it is impossible to access your encrypted data.
[06:03] <dc5ala> Northernen, it's still new so it think it takes a while to mature
[06:04] <lolcat> I have the wrapped-passphrase file, can I access my encrypted data?
[06:04] <csdserver> can someone check my testparm and see if there are any issues with sharing?  i can't access from any other computer on the network even though I could before.  the two *nix hostnames are csdserver and csdclient ; mapped network to <IP_ADDRESS>/7 ; dhcp server enabled ; DNS resolvers are one external to isp the other is router's IP ;
[06:05] <lolcat> fcfa816b011d11c5^[p^R�;�?5n��3cBI�>����Z�Ϣâ��^Fˢ^KK
[06:05] <lolcat> That is my wrapped passphrase
[06:05] <lolcat> Does that give any clues about the password I gave?
[06:06] <x64> You could bruteforce it, if you have an eternity.
[06:06] <Northernen> x64, depends on the length.
[06:06] <x64> Try to reverse the scheme yet?
[06:06] <x64> True.
[06:06] <maum> hello
[06:07] <maum> how can I install nvidia graphic driver on ubuntu 11.04
[06:07] <x64> System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[06:07] <lolcat> x64: My usuall passwords aren't that hard, but I can't remember this, usually around 8-9 characters
[06:07] <Northernen> lolcat, then again, if you are not using an auto-password generator, how many alternatives can be? I'm an idiot, I use 1 almost everywhere.
[06:07] <lolcat> How do I brutforce it?
[06:07] <x64> First see if it matches with any known hashes online
[06:07] <lolcat> Northernen: I know, I have like 10 I normally use, but none will work
[06:08] <vanquish349> when ever i try to install .deb files it just opens ubuntu software center with out installin ghtem
[06:08] <vanquish349> them*
[06:08] <kingmilo> dc5ala: Check it out: http://ScrnSht.com/whoafe
[06:08] <Northernen> vanquish349, dpkg -i nameof.deb
[06:08] <lolcat> x64: How do I make the characters pastable and what is the encryption scheme?
[06:08] <maum> x64: this driver is activated but not currently in use.
[06:08] <vanquish349> Northernen: ok i will try
[06:09] <x64> Maum, do you have more than one enabled?