[00:00] <jagginess> semitones, if you type "pwd<enter>" that gives you a hint
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> pwd   print working directory
[00:00] <jagginess> semitones, try the builtin "basename" command
[00:00] <semitones> jagginess: ok, thanks
[00:00] <semitones> soliloquy1: maybe ls can be configured to do that -- I'll have to check
[00:01] <jagginess> semitones, "help test<enter>" you'd probably want to use a test if there's a file in existence
[00:01] <ubuntu_> does NFS have the ability to do other things then just file sharing.... like can it do the equivalent of the smb/cifs protocal which does much more then just file sharing. i.e printers , AD , ...etc
[00:02] <semitones> jagginess: pwd worked. What am I using help test to accomplish?
[00:02] <marcus_> any one know why fglrx dotn working if its compiled right instaled right etc eetc etc
[00:02] <marcus_>  no errors in  build logs
[00:02] <jagginess> semitones, that's just a hint table for bash scripting
[00:03] <casey> kubuntu and xubuntu are just ubuntu with some packages installed, it's pretty misleading really.
[00:03] <marcus_> so?
[00:03] <marcus_> is damn 2 am here and i rly want to go to bed
[00:03] <Farfy> ljack: downloading now, about 6 minutes
[00:03] <ljack> Farfy: OK.
[00:03] <no-n> is there a terminal program that tells you whether you need to restart to complete an upgrade?
[00:03] <marcus_> so is anyone even close to tell me how to install this stupid ati drivers on 3.5 kerbel or not
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, only really need to reboot if you installed a new kernel
[00:04] <no-n> okay
[00:04] <ljack> Farfy: I'm not 100% sure if this will work, but there will be no harm in trying and at least it'll update your drivers.
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, if the menu doesnt refresh (sometimes it happens), simply relogin
[00:04] <no-n> "the menu"?
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, y
[00:04] <soliloquy1> marcus_: ljack can probably help you, but he's dealing with another driver issue this instant - if you wait, he may be able to help you too
[00:05] <jagginess> no-n, sometimes the menu (or the dock whatever unity uses), doesnt always refresh.. a relogin doesnt hurt..
[00:05] <no-n> oh, right
[00:05] <no-n> I'm using i3
[00:05] <marcus_> oki doki
[00:05] <Farfy> ljack: willing to try anything at this point, really wanna get this going, ty for the help
[00:05] <ljack> marcus__: Oh I'll help you install a driver.
[00:05] <marcus_> but soliloquy1 i rly read everything in google and dont find anyone who got this crap working on lubudubu with 3.5 kernel
[00:05] <soliloquy1> marcus_: unfortunately drivers are one of those things I'm dreadful at fixing.
[00:05] <ljack> If that's what you need.
[00:05] <ljack> marcus_: What is the problem?
[00:06] <soliloquy1> what are you trying to do precisely - I don't understand??
[00:06] <ljack> xperiamaniac: How'd it go?
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> am back and it did not help :)
[00:06] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: what happened?
[00:06] <marcus_> ljack:  problem is after i download from ati site patch it  make deb install deb's reboot
[00:06] <marcus_>  fglrx dotn works
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> no luck
[00:06] <marcus_> and build log dont show any errors
[00:06] <ljack> :(
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> took me almost 20 mins to load to the desktop
[00:06] <soliloquy1> yeah, I thought so. unity 2d is a resource hog. try LXDE. bummer though!
[00:07] <ljack> marcus_: Can't you just download the run file for your driver?
[00:07] <marcus_> [   765.008] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
[00:07] <soliloquy1> LXDE is the lightest desktop environment out there, xperia.
[00:07] <ljack> And run it to install and bam, it's done.
[00:07] <marcus_> ljack:  i did
[00:07] <marcus_>  without patch for 3.5 its not even compiling
[00:07] <soliloquy1> and what happened then, marcus?
[00:07] <soliloquy1> when you patched it, I mean
[00:07] <soliloquy1> what's the error - pastebin them, please
[00:07] <marcus_> i compiled it
[00:07] <soliloquy1> you could be missing a dependency?
[00:07] <marcus_>  installed seems without errors
[00:07] <soliloquy1> and then doesn't run??
[00:07] <marcus_>  but after reboot fglrx dont works
[00:08] <soliloquy1> uhuh.
[00:08] <marcus_> only error is in xorg logs
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> ho do i get LXDE?
[00:08] <marcus_> the one i pasted
[00:08] <soliloquy1> why are you trying to run fglrx?
[00:08] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Open up the Ubuntu Software Center, search for "LXDE" and click on install.
[00:08] <TeamRocket1233c> LXDE or Xfce.
[00:08] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: ubuntu software center
[00:08] <marcus_> soliloquy1:  laptop duble ati cards?
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> okies
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> lemmi chk
[00:08] <marcus_> my laptop is freeking to hot withotu  this drivers
[00:09] <marcus_>  on normal its going insane hot
[00:09] <marcus_> i compensate it by messing with cpu freqs but its not a solution
[00:09] <ljack> marcus_: Go to a better channel like ##linux, more advanced users are there for better support.
[00:09] <ljack> Or #debian.
[00:09] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop
[00:09] <marcus_> hmm
[00:10] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[00:10] <marcus_> kinda i can ask on sabayon but its ubuntu distro problem not any other xD
[00:10] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Either command installs LXDE.
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> the thing is i am unable to execute any applications in ubuntu as well
[00:10] <soliloquy1> ljack: yeah #debian (pretend you're running debian) or ##linux will have a better bet
[00:10] <soliloquy1> how are you talking to us xperiamaniac?
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> thru windows
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> xp
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> got pidgin installed
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :P
[00:11] <soliloquy1> if it's really not working, you can boot into command line mode and do sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop that way
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:11] <ljack> xperiamaniac: In that case, you'll have to install Lubuntu using Wubi.
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> hmmm
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> workin on it
[00:11] <soliloquy1> let me just tell you how to do that
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:11] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Either burn off a Lubuntu LiveCD or a Xubuntu LiveCD and try it out and see how it goes.
[00:11] <soliloquy1> ljack: you can add the lxde to ubuntu using wubi?
[00:11] <ljack> xperiamaniac: When it says Desktop Enviroment, set it to Lubuntu
[00:12] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: You'll need at least FreeISOBurner in order to burn off the disc though.
[00:12] <devvie> Speaking of Wubi installs... Would anyone here know how to recover or "undelete" files from a Wubi install of Ubuntu in a hard-drive that says it's empty?
[00:12] <ljack> soliloquy1: No, but you can install Lubuntu using Wubi.
[00:12] <soliloquy1> ljack: so essentially do a clean install?
[00:12] <ljack> Yep
[00:12] <TeamRocket1233c> Although my fave lightweight distro is probably #!.
[00:13] <Guest81082> can anybody tell me how to view the files I have "synched" on ubuntu One?
[00:13] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: I think ljack is right and lubuntu via wubi is your best bet - your current ubuntu is apparently very trashed, so I would just startover
[00:13] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: it's What??? #!?
[00:13] <ljack> Farfy: Download complete?
[00:13] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: #! = Crunchbang.
[00:13] <xperiamaniac> hmmmm
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> started the lubuntu download thru wubi...
[00:14] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Installed it as a replacement for Win98 on my sad, sorry-ass 13-yr-old PC, and it works great on the little resources it has.
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:14] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Okay
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> lets see how dat goes...
[00:14] <Farfy> ljack: done downloading, shall i install?
[00:14] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Put Crunchbang on a basic Vista-era PC, and it would fly.
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> Thanks a lot guys... :)
[00:14] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: yeah, it looks great.
[00:14] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Then, you can just launch Lubuntu; it's pretty light so you shouldn't have any problems.
[00:14] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: no problem
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:14] <soliloquy1> yeah, it should be smooth sailing from here
[00:15] <f00bar80> v1c3, how to check/disable/ makes resolv.conf the used dns source
[00:15] <soliloquy1> and lxde is pretty nice and easy to use
[00:15] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Only uses 50 megs of RAM when idling too, on 128 megs, that's half your RAM, but on 2 gigs or more, that's barely any RAM being used at all.
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> was also downloadin the server edition for ma desktop
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:15] <soliloquy1> that could be a big part of your issue, xperia - if you were running server flavor ubuntu!
[00:15] <ljack> Farfy: Okay, open terminal and type in "sudo" and enter you password. Then type "cd Downloads" then "./<name of file"
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> nah
[00:15] <Guest81082> I signed up with UbuntuOne and synched everything, but now I can't access the stuff that should be in my UbuntuOne folder in the cloud.
[00:16] <ljack> xperiamaniac: lol
[00:16] <Farfy> ljack: sure thing, just a moment
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> i am downloadin dat on the desktop
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> dis one is da laptop wid 512 mb
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> O:-)
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> lol
[00:16] <marcus_> fuck it im going bakc to sabayon on #buuntu are only noobs who got no clue .. on #debian i got -v cuz its not ubuntu and i got ubuntu
[00:16] <marcus_>  this is stupid
[00:16] <ljack> marcus_: Fine...
[00:17] <ljack> But Ubuntu is made for newer users to Linux.
[00:17] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Especially when compared to the likes of Vista which uses I think half a gig of RAM when idling, but when you have a lot of software running on it, it uses up to a gig, which is half your RAM when running on 2 gigs.
[00:17] <ljack> I said, you can use a more advanced channel...
[00:17] <v1c3> f00bar80, i dont know how to or if its possible.. think about using wicd an removing networkmanager.
[00:17] <soliloquy1> marcus_:  ##linux is your best bet
[00:18] <devvie> Can anyone here help with recovering/"undeleting" files, or is there a channel that would have more experience with that? :x
[00:18] <Jordan_U> !undelete | devvie
[00:18] <tbruce> \quit ba-bye
[00:19] <tbruce> \quit
[00:19] <rimbaud> anyone here uses amnesic incognito live system?
[00:19] <devvie> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll read that now!
[00:19] <Jordan_U> devvie: You're welcome.
[00:19] <Farfy> ljack: permission denied
[00:19] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Basically, Vista or Win7 requires at least 2 gigs to run decently, and you'd be better off using that much RAM with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint, or the GNOME Shell or KDE spins of Fedora, Crunchbang or Lubuntu I think requires only 128 megs to run efficiently, and I think 256 megs with Xubuntu.
[00:19] <ljack> Fafry
[00:20] <ljack> Farfy: try "sudo ./[name of driver].run"
[00:20] <xperiamaniac> did you have the files on your computer at any point of time?
[00:20] <Farfy> ljack: k
[00:20] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: I know Crunchbang will run efficiently on 128 megs 'cause that's how much the box I have it installed on has.
[00:21] <Guest81082> thanks alot.
[00:21] <ljack> CrunchBang for me uses only about 80MB without any programs running.
[00:21] <xperiamaniac> devvie:did u have the files on your computer at any point of time?
[00:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: When I looked at the Conky with nothing running, it was using 50 megs.
[00:21] <Farfy> ljack: command not found
[00:21] <ljack> Yes I sometimes can get as low as that too.
[00:22] <devvie> xperiamaniac: Yeah, everything is still there - The hard-drive just lost all of its partitions.
[00:22] <ljack> Farfy, okay, in that case just double click the file. xD
[00:22] <ljack> It should work.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Farfy: ljack: Installing the driver that way should never be the first thing to do. First try installing the drivers via the "Additioinal Drivers" tool (jockey-gtk).
[00:22] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Now if you were to build up a minimalist Ubuntu setup from a base command-line install...
[00:23] <ljack> Jordan_U: no harm in installing the proper driver...
[00:23] <anxel> hola
[00:23] <anxel> alguien me puede ayudar con una cosa
[00:23] <anxel> ?
[00:23] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Which is basically what I would do if I didn't wanna use either Xubuntu or Lubuntu while still having a low-resource OS...
[00:23] <ljack> anxel: Please speak English here.
[00:24] <anxel> ok
[00:24] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: So would I.
[00:24] <Jordan_U> ljack: Yes, there is. Among other things it will break when Farfy tries to update his system. The "proper" driver is the one packaged and tested for Ubuntu.
[00:24] <ljack> Jordan_U: Both still can be done.
[00:25] <ljack> Farfy: Any luck?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !es | anxel
[00:25] <Farfy> ljack: white box opens, named *filename (~/Downloads) -gedit, sits there does nothing, cant close it
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ljack: Both what can still be done?
[00:25] <ljack> Farfy: uh, just do what Jordan_U says then
[00:26] <anxel> I have Lubuntu and let me know how I can navigate with permissions to copy files to the folder / home
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Seriously though a Ubuntu setup with X+Fluxbox, no login manager, a terminal window for software installation, Thunar for the file manager, and Dillo for the browser, would barely use up anything, and would probably use less than a stock Crunchbang install.
[00:26] <ljack> I'd say about 30MB for that TeamRocket1233c.
[00:26] <Farfy> ljack: ive tried using the Additional drivers before, switched it to the 'recommended' driver, no change
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Plus it would just look cool.
[00:26] <ljack> Yep
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Fluxbox actually looks really cool.
[00:26] <ljack> Farfy: :(
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Farfy: I presume that you rebooted after enabling the driver?
[00:27] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I've never actually tried it.  Is there a way to unfuck it?
[00:27] <Farfy> Jordan_U: yes
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Farfy: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[00:27] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Basically, it's pretty much a refined Openbox.
[00:27] <Jordan_U> !language | _Tristan
[00:28] <Farfy> Jordan_U: Im not able to use the ubuntu machine for much, talking to you on my windows machine and moving back and forth, is there a way to export that to a file i can send to windows machine to paste?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: Aptitude doesn't work properly with multi-arch. What problem are you seeing specifically?
[00:28] <_Tristan> my bad. I meant.. uh... fudge :)
[00:28] <CAkEBAll> anyone on?
[00:28] <Trekking82> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 from the LiveCD. Is there a GUI program that will enable me to use GPG? (GUI for encrypting/decrypting messages, etc) :)
[00:28] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: wine1.5 cannot be upgraded because of some wine1.5-1386:1386 boulderdashery
[00:28] <ljack> CAkEBAll: Yes.
[00:28] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And you just can't beat the look of a Fluxbox desktop with an open terminal window slaving away installing software or whatever.
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> does anyone know
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> how to stop
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> ubuntu from dimming
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> every 10 seconds
[00:29] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[00:29] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: sure, in just a minute
[00:29] <WeThePeople> cakeball, that might be your screen saver
[00:29] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I will install it. :P
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> how do i disable it
[00:29] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Terminal window installation is not only quicker and uses less resources than Synaptic, but it gives you a lot of geek points and just looks sick.
[00:30] <WeThePeople> cakeball, what distro u using
[00:30] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Using the Terminal feels powerful. :D
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> ubuntu
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> 12.04
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> LTS
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> 32 bit
[00:30] <FloodBot1> CAkEBAll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Well, burn off a Ubuntu minimal install disc, do a base command-line install, and then set it up for a minimalist Fluxbox desktop.
[00:30] <Trekking82> Will Seahorse enable me to encrypt/decrypt plaintext messages?
[00:31] <Hamatto> test
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Farfy: It is already a file (at the path /var/log/Xorg.0.log) which you can copy to your Windows machine. Is the Ubuntu machine connected to the network? Installing ssh might make things a lot easier.
[00:31] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I will have to do it tomorrow.
[00:31] <WeThePeople> cakeball, idk in 12.04 but in 10.04 to acces the screensaver gui its in system, preferences
[00:32] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: The only command that would really be needed in that situation would be sudo apt-get install. Pretty much about as easy as doing a default Ubuntu install, you just gotta do a little more work to get a desktop set up.
[00:32] <Trekking82> Can someone please help me with GPG encryption on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:33] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I suppose the minimal .iso comes with the login manager and needed stuff?
[00:33] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Screwed around with that last year on Ubuntu Server 11.10, it pretty much works the same way a base command-line install of the desktop version would when it comes to setting up a GUI.
[00:35] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And if you want a graphical login manager, you have to install it yourself when going with a base command-line install, otherwise, login via the command-line and pull up the GUI from there with startx.
[00:35] <Trekking82> Am I in the right place to ask for help with setting up GPG?
[00:35] <ljack> Ah I'd rather login using the command line.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> !minimal
[00:36] <Budd> Trekking82: this is a reasonable place to ask.
[00:36] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I personally wouldn't use a login manager in that case anyways 'cause it's unneeded.
[00:36] <ljack> Yep.
[00:36] <critt> Could I get some help with the System updates? Just updated now my cairo=dock won't load on startup. Have searched for workarounds. Nothinging working.
[00:36] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: this isn't exactly what you asked for... but I think it counts as helpful: http://pastebin.com/vgC7XX4k
[00:36] <Farfy1> jordan_u:  says pastebin unrecognized command
[00:36] <ljack> Just would take up disk space and take longer to start.
[00:36] <Farfy1> ohh nm
[00:37] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Now I don't mind a graphical login manager though.
[00:37] <ljack> Trekking82: Ask in ##linux please, you will get better support for that kind of thing. :)
[00:37] <Trekking82> Thanks :)
[00:37] <lauratika> how can i check if there is an issue with plugins on my browser... cant play videos from some pages.
[00:38] <Degorth> hello everyone, I'm trying to resurrect an old Eee PC 701 4g with linux, is there a version of ubuntu suited for 800x480 screens?
[00:38] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: OK. It looks like apt-get doesn't have any problem. So just use apt-get instead of aptitude from now on.
[00:38] <ljack> Trekking82: /j ##linux
[00:38] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: what about all if the :i386 stuff?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: all are, you could use Lubuntu as the panel is quite thin
[00:39] <Degorth> ActionParsnip, what if some windows are cut off at the bottom, preventing access to OK or Cancel buttons?
[00:39] <Farfy1> jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/H0CQshFZ
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: also, it is light so will use fewer resources :)
[00:39] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: That's expected. wine is a 32 bit only application, and depends on 32 bit libraries. The :i386 means that it's refferring to the 32 bit version of the package rather than the 64 bit one.
[00:39] <Farfy1> jordan_u: that is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[00:39] <_Tristan> oh, I see
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: hold ALT and you can drag from any part of the application window
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: what is weird is that I have packages install on my 32bit OS which state :i386 very funny
[00:40] <Degorth> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[00:41] <kantlivelong> any bumblebee users here?
[00:41] <lauratika> anyone?
[00:42] <ljack> lauratika: What, you cannot watch videos?
[00:42] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: OK, the Ubuntu setup I'm suggesting would be unstoppable on a Core 2 Extreme and 4 gigs of RAM. XD
[00:42] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: You could open up every program installed on that setup, it wouldn't slow down a bit.
[00:43] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And hell, Win7 works perfectly on that setup and it's a way bigger resource hog.
[00:43] <lauratika> on certain webpages
[00:43] <lauratika> in 2 browser
[00:43] <lauratika> opera and chromium
[00:43] <ljack> lauratika: Install flash.
[00:44] <lauratika> i have it already... wanna know if there are any plugins installed
[00:44] <lauratika> not
[00:44] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: You have that system??
[00:44] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: My class at school upgraded from a AMD-based Optiplexes that ran XP to Intel-based Precisions running Win7.
[00:44] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I wish I had a system like that though.
[00:45] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Same. I only have a dual core 1GHz CPU.
[00:45] <ljack> But 4GB RAM and a decent graphics card...
[00:45] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Might get lucky some day and find a Core 2 Extreme-based PC with 4 gigs of RAM at a local pawn shop for a decent price that has nothing installed on it, 'ya never know.
[00:46] <ljack> :)
[00:46] <Budd> Is there a non-Google-branded  version of Chromium for ubuntu?
[00:46] <kaushal> Hi
[00:46] <critt> Why Can't Ubuntu Leave you personal settings alone when we do upates?
[00:47] <kaushal> is there way to get summary of df -h command output?
[00:47] <zykotick9> Budd: "chromium" shouldn't be google "branded", it might be the defaults for most stuff (but that should be changable)
[00:47] <kaushal> similar to the one like free -mot
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ljack: 4Gb and a dual core cpu is more than I have
[00:47] <zykotick9> critt: actually it does.  ~ (or /home/foo) aren't touched by updates
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> critt: it does
[00:47] <ljack> ActionParsnip: What do you have?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> critt: the settings in $HOME are untouched
[00:47] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: hi
[00:48] <lauratika> Budd iron browser
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ljack: single core sempron @ 1.6Ghz with 2Gb DDR2 and onboard Nvidia 6150LE
[00:48] <critt> I updated and Now my Cairo-dock wont load at startup.
[00:48] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: My tech school classrooms has that hardware for its PC arsenal for the most part.
[00:48] <kaushal> is there way to get summary of df -h command output similar to the one like free -mot
[00:48] <Budd> zykotick9: I get many prompts to log in to Google, which I have no intention of doing, and the extensions page points me to the google "store".
[00:48] <ljack> ActionParsnip: Self build?
[00:48] <zykotick9> critt: but version changes/updates can break old config files (problem i have with people saving all of /home when they update)
[00:48] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: The dual-core CPU and 4 gigs of RAM, I mean.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ljack: its an ASUS P1-AH2 pundit, I just slung in CPU, RAM and HDD
[00:49] <zykotick9> Budd: if you won't like google, don't support them by using chromium... or worse chrome.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> critt: maybe the old config is not compatible with the old settings
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> critt: try launching it from terminal, it may give clues
[00:49] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Practically the whole classroom was upgraded to dual-core Precisions with 4-gigs of RAM that run Win7. And we use Chrome instead of IE for the standard browser now.
[00:49] <critt> zykotick9 It still shows my cairo-dock in the startup configs
[00:49] <devvie> Jordan_U: Thanks! ddrescue seems to at least be able to copy the hard-drive! It should be a bit easier from now on. ^^
[00:49] <girffe> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, and just rebooted, and the window manager doesn't seem to be working. Instead of bringing me to a login screen, it brings me to tty1. When I press alt+Ctrl+F7, it says starting LightDM display manager, but doesn't have any sort of GUI. typing 'sudo restart lightdm' in tty6 says restart can't find the process, and sudo start lightdm just has the same problem (tty7 says starting LightDM, but no GUI). Anyo
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yeah I need a new system soon, looking at a fit pc or similar :)
[00:50] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Got dual monitors in addition. VERY useful for listening to Labsim videos while trying to find info on Linux certs or whatever.
[00:50] <critt> I can launch from term.. but closes after I close term
[00:50] <zykotick9> critt: sorry i don't have any relevant info for your issue.  but updates don't touch home folder stuff...
[00:50] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Most our computers use Win XP with like 512MB RAM and we use IE.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: haha 1 screen for 4 systems here :)
[00:50] <zykotick9> critt: alt+f2 then start cairo
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: We WERE using AMD-based Optiplexes that ran XP and I THINK had the same amount of RAM that the system I'm currently using has.
[00:51] <critt> zykotick9 I see.. I can start it from unity dock but thats not my issue.
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And IE8 for the browser.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> critt: what is the issue then?
[00:51] <girffe> It says [OK] after starting LightDM, then says checking battery state, it doesn't have an OK after battery. I'm running this on a desktop
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Would rather use Firefox instead of Chrome, but at least Chrome's a step up from IE.
[00:51] <ljack> Windows XP was good, while it was alive.
[00:52] <ljack> And yes I also prefer Firefox to Chromium.
[00:52] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: At least Chrome's better than IE.
[00:52] <critt> ActionParsnip It stopped launching at startup after I did a system update
[00:52] <hico> hallo ubuntu 2012 was good
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> critt: try removing the startup item and readd it
[00:52] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Not the biggest fan of Chrome, but hate IE.
[00:53] <ljack> Same with me.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> critt: you may need to make a small script to run the dock if compiz is not loaded fast enough
[00:53] <critt> ActionParsnip can try that.
[00:53] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Opera's kinda meh.
[00:54] <critt> Script beyond my pay grade lol
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> critt: I can bash you one out, what is the command to run cairo?
[00:54] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I assume Chromium's roughly the same as Chrome, and the same with Iceweasel when compared to Firefox, hadn't used Dillo yet.
[00:54] <lauratika> opera is good but lately is bahaving like an ass...
[00:54] <critt> On Sec
[00:54] <ljack> Opera is a bit... well unstable.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> opera is great, as is chrome
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> opera mini on android is sweeeeeet
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, cario will start with cairo-dock
[00:56] <TeamRocket1233c> I'm currently using FF11, which isn't the most recent FF out there, but hella better than FF3, which originally came with the Vista install this system came with.
[00:57] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: actually chrome is based off of chromium source code (chromium is the development version, it gets the features first).  but because google owns the code, it can be dual-licensed opensource and propritary by the owner - google.
[00:57] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: And Iceweasel is...
[00:57] <critt> ActionParsnip     Name: GLX-Dock (Cairo-Dock with OpenGL)    Command : cairo-dock    Comment : Cairo-Dock with OpenGL (hardware acceleration)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> critt: http://pastebin.com/pydCQbqi
[00:58] <critt> sorry
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> critt: ah, then modify the command to:  cairo-dock
[00:58] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: mozilla doesn't allow debian to use the art/name (with understandable reasons actually - but i still side with debian)
[00:58] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: So it's basically re-branded Firefox.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> critt: obviously delete the current startup item
[00:59] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: yes - iceweasel is re-branded firefox.  but chrome is closed-source version based on open source code :( chromium
[00:59] <critt> ActionParsnip the command is cairo-dock already
[00:59] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: And if Mozilla don't allow Debian to use the Firefox art/name, and Ubuntu's Debian-based, shouldn't Ubuntu at least have Iceweasel in the repos along with the honest-to-god Firefox?
[01:00] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: if they wanted they could.  they wouldn't want to - "free software" has no place in ubuntu/canonical's priorities (it used too...)
[01:00] <whoobrien> Hey, random question on xmodmap: can I rebind a key "foo" so that it's basic press is the "ctrl+bar" press of some other key "bar"?  For instance, I want to rebind the Fwd/Back keys to be ctrl+pgup and ctrl+pgdn (tab jumps in webpage).
[01:01] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: Meh, whatevers anyways.
[01:07] <critt> ActionParsnip created the script gonna go give it a try.. Thanks
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> critt: np, its not a hard script at all, as you can see
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> critt: its nothing you don't know how to do
[01:07] <critt> Nah but still above my grade LOL. Thanks a bunck se ya in a bit
[01:08] <marcus_> ?
[01:11] <webdeveloper1010> hola
[01:11] <webdeveloper1010> ¿alguien que hable español?
[01:11] <bazhang> !es
[01:12] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: Well, whatever, you want a lightweight browser, Dillo's it.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: arora is light too
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: midori is light too
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: and QupZilla
[01:13] <rypervenche> HA
[01:13] <kantlivelong> anyone here get ginn working?
[01:13] <rypervenche> Was just about to mention that one ActionParsnip.
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: I think Dillo might be the lightest.
[01:14] <rypervenche> Qupzilla is pretty cool. Very fast.
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Kazehakase used to be around but i think its dead
[01:15] <TeamRocket1233c> And you can run most standard websites on Dillo too, right?
[01:16] <amr_> how to install latest gnome (3+) on ubuntu 12.-4?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> amr_: its default installed
[01:17] <amr_> what !!! then how to access it?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> amr_: you are using it when you run apps like nautilus and so forth
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> amr_: unity is a shell for Gnome
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: are you wanting a Gnome2 like desktop by any remote chance?
[01:18] <amr_> then I think I mean some other shell
[01:18] <halem> hey
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: gnome-shell is another shell, as is gnome-panel
[01:18] <lauratika> does qupzilla works with out kde?
[01:18] <TeamRocket1233c> amr_: How 'bout Cinnamon or MATE?
[01:18] <amr_> no I will search for a screan shot for what I mean and will post the link just a min
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: cool
[01:18] <TeamRocket1233c> amr_: Both DE's are available for Ubuntu.
[01:19] <blitz__> Whenever I boot into Ubuntu, it brings up the loading screen (with the dots), but instead of giving me a login screen, it sends me to tty1. When I switch to tty7, it has no GUI, and the second last message is "Starting LightDM Display Manager", followed by [OK]. Any idea how I can fix it?
[01:19] <hoyang> how to switch gnome3 to gnome2? or gnome2 look-and-feel.
[01:19] <klync> blitz__: do `grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[01:19] <hoyang> ubuntu 12.04lts
[01:19] <Farffy> anyone here want to take a crack at helping with video driver issues?
[01:19] <danielboston26> blitz__: do you have xwindows installed?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: install gnome-panel, log off then log into the new session
[01:19] <klync> blitz__: you will see *at least* one line of output, explaining why I recommend doing that
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: gnome2 is dead
[01:20] <hoyang> is dead?
[01:20] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: want and uber-light browser (based on webkit), try uzbl ;)
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: no longer developed by the gnome team
[01:21] <blitz__> klync: It says failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module, and later says "screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[01:21] <amr_> here is what I mean http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rOl-9x3hF-k/TZ0n24hTSZI/AAAAAAAAAHE/2aRsr8_u7fY/s800/gnome-3-desktop.jpg
[01:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Hey, you want GNOME 2, get MATE.
[01:21] <amr_> gnome 3
[01:21] <hoyang> mate?
[01:21] <zykotick9> !notunity | hoyang
[01:21] <blitz__> klync: I tried deleting (and backing up) xorg.config earlier, but it didn't fix it
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yeah, if you want to reduce support
[01:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: It's basically re-branded GNOME 2.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> amr_: thats gnome shell
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yes but its not supported here
[01:22] <blitz__> danielboston26: somewhat new to linux, what do you mean? I haven't installed anything on top of/in place of the default Unity
[01:22] <zykotick9> hoyang: that gnome-panel is the gnome2 like environment
[01:22] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, unsupported PPA.
[01:22] <amr_> so how to install it on my ubuntu 12
[01:22] <Farffy> anyone help with video issues?
[01:22] <hoyang> aha! classic.
[01:22] <bazhang> Farffy, ask a real question
[01:22] <klync> blitz__: if you have nvidia's drivers (not the stock "nouveau" driver), and upgraded your kernel, you'll need to re-run the nvidia-installer as root to get the modules recompiled; then reboot and all should be well
[01:22] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: It's available on Ubuntu, along with Cinnamon.
[01:22] <danielboston26> blitz__: xwindows is the gui
[01:22] <hoyang> emulator?
[01:22] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, and it's NOT supported as was said
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> !find cinnamo
[01:22] <danielboston26> blitz__:  as long as you did not install ubuntu server xwindows should be installed by default
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !find cinnamon
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !find cinnamon-desktop
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: its not in the official repos so it's not supported here
[01:23] <zykotick9> the icons, art is support though :p
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: OK.
[01:24] <amr_> how to install gnome shell 3 on ubuntu 12
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[01:24] <danielboston26> amr sudo apt-get install gnome 3
[01:24] <Farffy> ok. installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.
[01:24] <zykotick9> amr_: look at the !notunity factoids above
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: then log off and log in to the new session
[01:24] <bazhang> danielboston26, thats not correct
[01:24] <TeamRocket1233c> !find fluxbox
[01:24] <Eddy_> Hello all! :)
[01:24] <blitz__> klync: I didn't upgrade my kernel myself, unless it was in one of the automatic updates Ubuntu does, but before the error, when I booted it would say something about monitor configuration being wrong, and my left monitor was configured to be on the right, I'd have to fix it every time I rebooted. Can't think of anything I did since then that should have broken anything
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: user desires gnome shell
[01:24] <danielboston26> arm or just search ubuntu software center for gnome
[01:24] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, /msg ubottu
[01:24] <klync> danielboston26: without an X server lightdm wouldn't install, and blitz__ wouldn't get the "starting lightdm..." msg. there's an error in the xorg.0.log that shows it's a problem w the driver
[01:25] <blitz__> danielboston26: Yeah, I did a standard install, and it's been working fine until today
[01:25] <danielboston26> ah i missed that aprt
[01:25] <blitz__> I also tried reinstalling lightdm via apt-get, but it didn't change anything
[01:25] <klync> blitz__: well, i don't know how your system's setup, but yes, kernel updates are pushed with all other updates; third-party drivers are not.... can you pastebin the entire output of that command?
[01:25] <TeamRocket1233c> How would Mint + LXDE work out?
[01:26] <Eddy_> Quick question. Does anyone know what sort of functionality is lost when connecting to an Exchange 2010 server via Ubuntu (using Thunderbird or any other mail software)? Does the calendar still work? including meeting invites etc..
[01:26] <bazhang> !ot | TeamRocket1233c
[01:26] <danielboston26> blitz__:  in that case it sounds like a driver issue
[01:26] <blitz__> pastebin would be difficult given that I'm stuck in CLI mode, one sec, though, the output isn't long
[01:26] <danielboston26> Eddy_: i wasn't aware you do connect to exchange on linux
[01:26] <zykotick9> !pastebinit
[01:27] <Eddy_> danielboston26, a google search shows me that you can using Thunderbird. But wasnt sure if you still get all the functionality offered by Exchange 2010
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: if you're not using MAPI, you're using IMAP, so yes, you lose calendars, address book, etc
[01:27] <blitz__> "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system's kernel log for additional error messages and consult the NVIDIA README for details. ***Aborting***"
[01:27] <danielboston26> Eddy_: im not sure ive never done it
[01:27] <blitz__> then on a new line:
[01:27] <Eddy_> yup, im using MAPI. So no Linux MAPI support?
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: there's a mapi plugin for tbird and for evolution, but I've never gotten either to work
[01:27] <lauratika> how can i asign plugin path to chrome?
[01:27] <blitz__> "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[01:27] <zykotick9> Eddy_: Exchange is not a mail server/client - it's so much more (or less?)
[01:27] <Eddy_> klync, thanks mate. I will look in to those plugins
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: i have no idea if ubuntu ships them or if you'd need to compile from source
[01:27] <danielboston26> Eddy_: why not use google sync?
[01:28] <danielboston26> Eddy_: or is this for work?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Eddy_: or theemail web interface on exchane
[01:28] <blitz__> Should I just try updating nvidia drivers and see if it fixes the issue?
[01:28] <zjhui1> hi , when i install some package on ubuntu 11.10 , it comes error with mesaage like : /usr/include/stdint.h:27:24: error: bits/wchar.h: No such file or directory  .  etc.
[01:28] <danielboston26> blitz__: thats what i would do
[01:28] <Eddy_> danielboston26, this is for the company I work for. So using anything else isnt possible
[01:28] <bazhang> zjhui1, install how
[01:28] <zjhui1> should i lose some package on the system >
[01:28] <danielboston26> Eddy_: ya
[01:29] <kbuel> danielboston26, check out davmail
[01:29] <zjhui1> bazhang: what install how mean ?
[01:29] <danielboston26> Eddy_: in that case i would use windows in a vm on linux
[01:29] <blitz__> danielboston26: any idea how to do so from CLI?
[01:29] <klync> Eddy_: windows in a vm (eg virtualbox) might be the best solution, but feel free to look for those plugins first
[01:29] <amr_> hello ,I installed the gnome shell but it not like this >>http://www.h-online.com/open/slideshow/bilderstrecke_1616673.html?back=1614860;back_page=1;image=2
[01:29] <bazhang> zjhui1, which package  and what installation method = install how
[01:29] <danielboston26> blitz__: not sure of the exact syntax but you can use apt-get
[01:29] <Eddy_> danielboston26, klync. That may be the best way to go. Thanks guys
[01:29] <blitz__> danielboston26: initially I'd just gone to their site for it, is it in the Ubuntu repos or would I have to install lynx or something?
[01:29] <kbuel>  danielboston26, i use thunderbird plus davmail to obtain all the features of our corporate exchange server
[01:30] <klync> O_o
[01:30] <danielboston26> blitz__: i believe it is in the ubuntu repo
[01:30] <Farffy> i installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.  how can i fix the video drivers to correctly display des
[01:30] <danielboston26> blitz__: you need need to install the propreitary repo
[01:30] <zjhui1> bazhang: i tried to install gentoo prefix on ubuntu 11.10 , and when i use the sime portage to install the gcc , than it comes error
[01:31] <danielboston26> blitz__: as nvidia does not open source their drivers
[01:31] <zykotick9> zjhui1: lol
[01:31] <bazhang> zjhui1, you are trying to use portage with Ubuntu?
[01:31] <blitz__> danialboston26: If by that you mean multiverse, then yeah I already have it enabled
[01:31] <usuario> hi, i need help to install  scaner on my RICOH aficio mp c2500 my GNU-linux  do , not detec :-(
[01:31] <amr_> hello ,I installed the gnome shell but it not like this >>http://www.h-online.com/open/slideshow/bilderstrecke_1616673.html?back=1614860;back_page=1;image=2
[01:31] <danielboston26> kbuel wasn't aware of that but i have no need for exchange
[01:31] <zjhui1> bazhang: hmm...yes.
[01:31] <danielboston26> amr what do you mean?
[01:32] <bazhang> zjhui1, thats not going to work
[01:32] <kbuel> danielboston26, sorry I must have come into the conversation late
[01:32] <danielboston26> amr it doesn't look like the screen shot
[01:32] <bazhang> usuario, try simplescan
[01:32] <klync> amr_: we saw your msg the first time; if you're not getting a response, try rephrasing or giving us more info
[01:32] <danielboston26> kbuel yes someone else was asking about exchange on linux i was just saying i wasn't aware of a way to do it
[01:32] <amr_> check the link ,this is what i want my desk top to look like, so I install the gnome shell but when I log to it I didn't found it like this
[01:32] <usuario> bazhang ,don work  xsane
[01:32] <blitz__> danielboston26: klync: the repo seems to be nvidia-current, but when I type 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current', it says it's already on the latest version
[01:32] <bazhang> amr_, yes, no need to repeat
[01:32] <amr_> klync: okay thank you
[01:33] <amr_> bazhang: sorry again
[01:33] <klync> blitz__: try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current`
[01:33] <bazhang> usuario, what about simplescan
[01:33] <Erin> Does writing 0's to a computer HD make it safe to sell ?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> amr_: set the wallpaper to the gnome default and you will
[01:33] <danielboston26> erin how many times?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Erin: yes
[01:33] <usuario> bazhang ; simple scan,  dont  detect :-(
[01:33] <Erin> I am on the second pass now using DD to write them.
[01:33] <amr_> actionParsnip: no it's not about the wallpaper man
[01:33] <Farffy> i need help fixing a video driver.  i used recommended driver from Additional drivers.  i cannot correctly display the desktop (one half 'off screen') and cannot switch between terminal and desktop without the terminal 'leaking' to the desktop can anyone help
[01:33] <Erin> I
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> amr_: well, i cant see your screen...
[01:34] <danielboston26> Erin i would do a 7 pass
[01:34] <zjhui1> bazhang: gentoo has a project called gentoo-prefix, that is tried to let portage work on other linux distribute
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> amr_: so you'll have to fill me in
[01:34] <danielboston26> Erin anything above 7 is overkill
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: its not needed nowadays
[01:34] <bazhang> zjhui1, was that brought over to ubuntu? got a link?
[01:34] <KAsp3rd> Evening everyone.
[01:34] <kbuel> Erin, check out the shred application
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Erin: a single pass is fine
[01:34] <klync> gentoo is *so* hardcore. they're like the samuel l. jackson of distros
[01:34] <danielboston26> what isn't ActionParsnip
[01:34] <amr_> ActionParsnip: just tell me how to make my desktop look like this, i just installed ubuntu 12.04
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: 7 sweeps of data change to delete data
[01:35] <zjhui1> bazhang:  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/prefix/bootstrap-solaris.xml
[01:35] <blitz__> ok, ran that, going to try restarting
[01:35] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: im paranoid :-P
[01:35] <KAsp3rd> Quick quest for y'all... Any idea on how to see what it eating up my free space on sdb? (running cli only)
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> amr_: the window theme will be the same, the wallpaper will need adding
[01:35] <zjhui1> bazhang: some one has successed to install that on ubuntu 11.10
[01:35] <Farffy> are there other channels i can go to, to get help w/ my issue?
[01:35] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: you know how MI5 gets rid of data?
[01:35] <Erin> ActionParsnip, well i've done two already I just want to make sure no one gets my credit card number etc.
[01:35] <bazhang> zjhui1, link please
[01:35] <klync> KAsp3rd: recursively do `du -h`
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: it achieves nothing extra the more sweeps you do
[01:35] <klync> KAsp3rd: or, do `find ` with a size arg as a predicate
[01:36] <zjhui1> bazhang: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/prefix/bootstrap-solaris.xml that is
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Erin: there is no data on the drive
[01:36] <Erin> ActionParsnip, ok cool. thanks
[01:36] <KAsp3rd> klync: over 2tb will take forever :( lol
[01:36] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: they do a 35 pass write on a drive then shred the drive into tiny little pieces then they take the pieces and lock them in a vault
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> amr_: if you have a default install, that is all that needs changing
[01:36] <danielboston26> now thats paranoia
[01:36] <usuario> somody now to emulate drivers on gnu-linux ?
[01:37] <klync> ActionParsnip: if you write zeros, then random, then zeros, that helps. certain forensic tools can reconstruct partial data based on residual magetization of the platters
[01:37] <blitz__> klync: danielboston26: still the same problem, unfortunately
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> klync: not with newer drives, its not needed
[01:37] <Erin> danielboston26, alot easier to just drop thermite on the drive or put it in a blast furnace..... LOL
[01:37] <danielboston26> usuario: can you use complete sentences to ask a question
[01:37] <bazhang> lets get back on topic of ubuntu support please
[01:37] <Erin> How do I write random data to the drive using DD ?
[01:37] <Erin> I'd like to do one pass of that then.
[01:38] <Farffy> what other channels are available on this irc server that i can find support for my issues?
[01:38] <danielboston26> usuario: you ask did not use correct english
[01:38] <bazhang> !alis | Farffy have a search
[01:38] <klync> KAsp3rd: well, you can try more targeted searching than just doing `du` on every folder; like, look in /var, look in /home (esp for hidden dotfiles / folders)
[01:38] <danielboston26> farffy whats your issue?
[01:38] <usuario> i need intall scaner, helpe
[01:39] <Farffy> danielboston26: for the 5th time..........
[01:39] <Farffy> danielboston26: i installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.  how can i fix the video drivers to corre
[01:39] <klync> ActionParsnip: sure, i may not be up to date. if i'm really concerned about the data being recovered forensically, i'm not going to wipe it and sell it. more like erin's recommendation
[01:39] <danielboston26> usuario: do you not speak english? you are not asking anything that i can make sense of
[01:39] <zykotick9> Farffy: what video card?  from terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> klync: its simply not needed with newer drives
[01:39] <bazhang> danielboston26, thats enough
[01:39] <Erin> Yea I am not worried about the FBI or something. I am just trading some guy this laptop for an SSD cause I got a new laptop and want an SSD :-)
[01:40] <danielboston26> farffy: sounds like a driver issue
[01:40] <klync> Erin: woot! :D
[01:40] <Farffy> yes...i know its a driver issue, im trying to get help with fixing it
[01:40] <HACKhalo2> is it possible to wake a computer up from sleep mode using an ssh command?
[01:40] <Xanather> hello
[01:40] <usuario> i need help, to install scaner on LAN, how todo that ?
[01:40] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: yes wake on lan
[01:40] <klync> HACKhalo2: no, but you can use wake-on-lan
[01:41] <Farffy> zykotic9: i am not on that machine, moving back and forth between this and that one, its an nvidia 7950 gt, i have a pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.log if you need that as osmeone else requested it earlier
[01:41] <Erin> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M      is that safe to do to write random data to an HD?
[01:41] <bazhang> usuario, is it listed as being supported?
[01:41] <zykotick9> HACKhalo2: a computer can't be running an ssh server while it's "asleep"
[01:41] <bazhang> !hcl | usuario
[01:41] <klync> Erin: you may lose entropy, but urandom won't lock up your system at least
[01:41] <HACKhalo2> klync Blue1, I'm guessing that's a BIOS thing, not a Ubuntu thing
[01:42] <Erin> klync, "entropy" ? I am booted off a live-usb so writing to that drive should be no issue just finished second pass of 0's
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: you install wakeonlan
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: then ssh to the mac address
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: well wakeonlan to the mac address
[01:42] <HACKhalo2> ah
[01:44] <jagginess> Blue1, mac as in macid address?
[01:44] <jagginess> ?
[01:44] <Farffy> danielboston26: any suggestion?
[01:44] <Erin> WOW writing random data is alot slower than writing 0's, 60 MB/S  for 0's vs 10 MB/S for random data :-)
[01:44] <jagginess> you ssh to the ip address, not the mac address :/
[01:44] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: so sudo apt-get  install wakeonlan   --- then wakeonlan <mac_address_goes_here>
[01:44] <danielboston26> farffy none that i can think of
[01:44] <usuario> bazhang ;  no exit my  scaner  "RICOH aficio mp c2500"   on  "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersRicoh"
[01:44] <HACKhalo2> ok
[01:44] <zjhui1> bazhang: something like these ? https://github.com/npinto/gentoo-prefix-bootstrap
[01:44] <usuario> what can i do ??
[01:45] <usuario> :'(
[01:45] <bazhang> usuario, it may not be supported then. you may wish to check canon for drivers
[01:45] <jagginess> usuario, i is spelled in caps
[01:45] <HACKhalo2> I can't do the apt-get install on this laptop (running archlinux), but I'll do it on my desktop (running Ubuntu
[01:45] <jagginess> ^
[01:45] <ebolla> How do you use modprobe to find the driver being used for a device?  (guess I need to know what ubuntu is calling it as well)
[01:46] <klync> ok, so my issue is grub: i have several kernels installed, and i do `grep -i menuentry` /boot/grub/grub.cfg and pick the one I want (counting from zero), then do `update-grub` after setting that num in /etc/default/grub, then check that the kernel i want is still in that position, but when i reboot, I _cannot_ land on that kernel. I *can* see that it's still there in /boot/ though. anything i'm missing?
[01:46] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: please note that I am running ubuntu 10.04 and debian squeeze, so I don't know if apt-get still works in the current release.
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> i use pacman
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> so
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: so your issue is in arch?
[01:46] <usuario> What has to do ricoh with canon?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> ebolla: sudo lshw | less     will show you all hardware, plu the module driving it
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> well, it's still Ubuntu related (I need my arch laptop to wake up my Ubuntu desktop before a git commit)
[01:47] <jagginess> Blue1, the tools are still the same
[01:47] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  Thank you.
[01:47] <bazhang> usuario, ok, check ricoh for drivers, my mistake
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: i see, well do you have WOL setup in arch?
[01:47] <Blue1> jagginess: thanks - -
[01:47] <HACKhalo2> ActionParsnip working on that now
[01:47] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: iirc you have to enable wake on lan in the bios as well
[01:48] <usuario> on oficial page of RICOH , dont do a drver for GNU-linux :-(     ,    only for window$ and MAC
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: if you install wakeonlan package, you can send magicpackets to systems
[01:49] <Darkenvy> who knows much about photorec?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> !info photorec
[01:49] <Darkenvy> Im trying to recover a file and it wants me to wait 52 hours after I already just waited 2 hours
[01:50] <Darkenvy> Actionparsnip, dont do the bot on me, im asking for personal help from a human -_-
[01:50] <Darkenvy> I have researched as much as I can find out on photorec
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: it was my own education, thanks
[01:50] <Darkenvy> aaah, your right its not directed to me lol
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yep
[01:51] <Darkenvy> I dont like being botted and it happens a lot
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: many users ask the same thing a lot
[01:51] <MindALot> Can I safely recreate a boot sector if I delete the partition with the current boot sector in it ?
[01:51] <Darkenvy> photorec help recovers files that are in deleted partitions or deleted files
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: sure, you can boot to liveCD and instate grub using a simple chroot
[01:51] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/photorec.1.html   <--- Darkenvy have a read
[01:51] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  Would you happen to have any experience with HPT raid controllers under Ubuntu?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: why not use your backups?
[01:52] <MindALot> ActionParsnip: will that find a currently installed linux partition (that wasn't deleted) ?
[01:52] <Darkenvy> I thought I backuped an important virtual machine, but it was just the savestate -_-
[01:52] <ubuntu_> is there any openldap gui tools that allow you to create LDAP entries  ca dn ,...etc records thru gui out there
[01:52] <Darkenvy> yes thats what im doing mindAlot
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: oooh painful
[01:53] <jagginess> MindALot, juse use gparted live cd, makes it safe
[01:53] <Darkenvy> I reinstalled ubuntu on the same partition over and the file is in the same location
[01:53] <MindALot> Darkenvy: cool
[01:53] <jagginess> MindALot, you trying to use gpt instead of dosmbr?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: if you can mount the partition, you can make it bootable etc
[01:53] <MindALot> I haven't removed anything yet
[01:53] <MindALot> I have ubuntu installed twice
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: if the drive is big etc then it will take a long time
[01:53] <MindALot> but the first one is 32 bit, and has the boot record
[01:53] <MindALot> the second is the one I want to keep
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> ebolla: sorry, no
[01:53] <MindALot> I want to remove the first, and still use the second
[01:54] <jagginess> MindALot, ya, you'll need to boot off the one you want to keep and do ->grub-install /dev/<your hd>
[01:54] <MindALot> it's a SSD, about 40 gig for each partition
[01:54] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  No biggy.  not a lot of raid users in here that use ubuntu from what I've seen ;)
[01:54] <MindALot> oh, I can install grub to my current partition...
[01:55] <MindALot> what happens if I do that without deleting the other one, how does the BIOS choose which 'grub' to load ?
[01:55] <jagginess> MindALot, why not the mbr?
[01:55] <alexi5> hello
[01:55] <usuario> heloow
[01:55] <usuario> ask
[01:55] <jagginess> MindALot, are they both ext4 partitions with just ubuntu on them?
[01:55] <MindALot> I think so, hold on
[01:55] <ahhughes> is there a command line way to switch between windows... or bring one window to top, or even switch desktop's?
[01:56] <alexi5> which is the best laptop that has the best linux (ubuntu support)  HP dv6t , lenovo T520 or a 2011 mac book pro ?
[01:56] <MindALot> booth are ext4
[01:56] <MindALot> one has the boot flag
[01:56] <MindALot> and the other I'm currently running (is mount point /)
[01:56] <jagginess> ahhughes, you have to logout and then log back in for a different desktop
[01:57] <jagginess> ahhughes, or you can use the "switch user" if you want to come back from your current desktop
[01:57] <jagginess> MindALot, bootflags arent used by linux
[01:57] <klync> alexi5: there was a site, "linuxlaptop.org" or something like that, that kept a db of different hardware reports
[01:57] <MindALot> how do I find where grub was run from at boot time ?
[01:57] <alexi5> thanks
[01:58] <jagginess> MindALot, so do whatever you want with the ubuntu you want to wipeout (of course be booted in the ubuntu you want before anything)--- once that ubuntu is gone, do grub-install /dev/<drive> on the current on that's already booted
[01:58] <klync> alexi5: sorry, i checked ... what i typed is crap link farming...
[01:58] <klync> alexi5: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[01:58] <ahhughes> jagginess: I think I am not explaining myself... I think I mean workspaces... I have 1 desktop with 4x workspaces yes? assuming yes... then I want to switch workspaces or alternatively switch focus between two windows.
[01:58] <usuario> dont  work    ---->             linuxlaptop.org
[01:59] <alexi5> thanks Klync
[01:59] <MindALot> alright, thanks !!
[01:59] <klync> usuario: sorry ^^
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, ya.. there's the systemsettings/keyboard, then look on the shortcuts tab :/
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ahhughes:  theres keyboard shortcuts.. press/hold the super key to see them
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, there's a good# shortcuts for workspaces..
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ahhughes:  windows-# to stitch btween the top 5 or so apps on the left side panel
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, i would know little of unity, but i'm suspecting it's the same place
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Press-hold-super = shows keyboard shortut... needs to be In letters on the default wallpaper. :)
[02:00] <ahhughes> cool, trying to work out a way that I can run a VM on "Workspace #2" and swtich between them.
[02:00] <maladore> Can anyone help with a partitioning error?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Noticeing a lot of 'tutorial' type helper features on the New android phone of the wifes...  Unity should borrow some of the ideas. ;)
[02:01] <MindALot> jagginess: grub-install is failing
[02:01]  * klync 's jaw drops on trying Dr_Willis' advice "press/hold the super key". that should be the #1 response to all the unity haters
[02:01] <MindALot> "attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or to a partition"
[02:01] <jagginess> MindALot, try it as root or with sudo (also it may be wise to do an ->update-grub2<enter> which  updates grub.cfg)
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> klync:  yep. :) i just happened to notice it one day.. i rembered it being mentioned as a feature i never really tried.
[02:01] <MindALot> oh, just had to use the root drive
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> made me actually put away my old old keyboards with no super keys..
[02:02] <three18ti> !ask
[02:02] <jagginess> MindALot, what drive is it? /dev/sda?
[02:02] <WeThePeople> is it possible to download a vimeo video through the terminal
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[02:02] <MindALot> it was /dev/sdb3 - I removed the 3
[02:02] <MindALot> and it worked
[02:02] <three18ti> !patience
[02:03] <jagginess> MindALot, /dev/sdb3 isnt the drive, it's a partition.. /dev/sdb is the sector 0 of the drive, this is where the mbr is
[02:03] <MindALot> let's see if it boots
[02:03] <MindALot> thanks !
[02:04] <maladore> can anyone help with a partioning error?
[02:04] <bazhang> maladore, whats the real question
[02:04] <jagginess> maladore, maybe your harddrive is physicaly "screwed"
[02:04] <maladore> trying to make a swap on the 1 gig left. and it only goes to extend and won't format
[02:04] <jagginess> maladore, .
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, an extended partition cannot hold a format to it from any Oses
[02:05] <maladore> yes but it won't go logical
[02:05] <maladore> using the new gparted
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, extended partition can only contain logical partitions
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, what you mean?
[02:06] <klync> maladore: can you pastebin the current layout (eg sfdisk -l)?
[02:06] <jagginess> maladore, what's inside the ext partition?
[02:06] <MindALot> jagginess: that worked, or it didn't change anything.
[02:06] <maladore> Well trying to make a swap.. when i use gparted  yes.. i tried that but i wouldn't work
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, did you do "update-grub2<enter>" ?
[02:06] <MindALot> hrm.. I wonder if there is an easy way to clean up the boot selecltion
[02:06] <MindALot> update-grub2 ?
[02:06] <maladore> one logical is the only way to do it.. but it is unreadable and get crypt errors
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, then you can reboot :/
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, y. (i hinted it would help to update grub.cfg)
[02:07] <MindALot> ohh, cool
[02:07] <jagginess> MindALot, grub.cfg gets read when grub starts from the bios
[02:07] <MindALot> thanks !
[02:07] <klync> MindALot: i saw a gtk util for managing grub while searching the other day, but can't remember the name :/ it's in a 3rd party apt repo
[02:07] <MindALot> still have to remove some other installs
[02:08] <jagginess> maladore, what operation is failing, you should be able to tell
[02:08] <jagginess> (click on the detail arrows)
[02:09] <maladore> Well when i booted before after a fresh install and update it gave me crypt swap error. i tried using gparted to fix this error. and it won't go to swap anymore. don't tell me i have to reinstall to specify that partition again
[02:10] <jagginess> maladore, can you see my last text?
[02:10] <jagginess> lol.. I never mentioned about reinstalling anything, you must be on drugs or something
[02:10] <maladore> about the operation failing?
[02:10] <bazhang> maladore, this is an encrypted system?
[02:10] <jagginess> maladore, you said you're using gparted.
[02:11] <maladore> no. not at the moment will be later
[02:11] <maladore> yes.
[02:11] <jagginess> maladore, in gparted, you can see detail messages about operations..
[02:11] <jagginess> ok bye.
[02:11] <maladore> hold on i will run it again
[02:11] <jagginess> so you said you're using a tool, but you mean "future". You got my times messed up.
[02:11]  * jagginess takes a starktrek enterprise to full warptime throttle
[02:12]  * klync watches jagginess increase jiggyness
[02:12] <maladore> error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda2 failed to add partion 2 device busy.
[02:12] <jagginess> maladore, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:13] <jagginess> ^
[02:13] <jagginess> maladore, unless you are actually already using gparted live cd, sometimes it hooks to the swap partition, you'll have to "unmount" it (you can unmount it with gparted, rt-click it)
[02:14] <ZeroNeutron> Hi by doing a apt-get update on ubuntu 12.04 keeps giving me warning failed to get canonical release error
[02:14] <maladore> probably because sda1 is boot..
[02:14] <jagginess> maladore, you can't partition something that is currently "mounted"-- meaning a current running OS. In the future this will be possible in linux, but doesnt look like anytime soon.
[02:14] <maladore> should I mount iso or burn and boot?
[02:15] <klync> maladore: yes
[02:15] <klync> err, the latter
[02:15] <maladore> alrighty that is what i thought but i am still kinda new to ubuntu.. this is alot more fun the windows ever was hahah
[02:15] <klync> heh
[02:15] <jagginess> maladore, are you using wubi by any chance?
[02:16] <maladore> no gave that up before I started i replaced windows.
[02:16] <jagginess> maladore, "/" doesnt say loopback does it? (fdisk -l<enter>)
[02:16]  * jagginess uses live gparted on usb
[02:17] <maladore> it doesn't report anything about the drives just gives prompt
[02:18] <ZeroNeutron> Hi by doing a apt-get update on ubuntu 12.04 keeps giving me warning failed to get canonical release error
[02:18] <maladore> I can use start up disk and create it on usb but the computer refuses to boot from usb. has it in bios but won't do it.
[02:18] <bazhang> ZeroNeutron, please pastebin the full error at paste.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <jagginess> maladore, you don't know how to burn in linux?
[02:19] <maladore> Yeah I know brasero and such.. i can do that.. but i was having trouble with usb mounting onthe last time i was checking out linux systems
[02:25] <sandprickle> I know how to configure SysVinit runlevels in, say CentOS, but how do I configure runlevels in Upstart?
[02:26] <sgronblo> Did netstat get some change to its command flags recently. None of the examples I find online seem to be working.
[02:27] <sgronblo> They all seem to contain p which gives me derp derp you need to specify an argument for p
[02:28] <jagginess> sgronblo, ss supersedes netstat
[02:28] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/netstat.8.html   sgronblo seems unchanged
[02:29] <jagginess> sandprickle, not sure but maybe you'll want to look at update-rc.d and see the output of it
[02:29] <sgronblo> Ok, I'll look into it some more. Thanks.
[02:29] <jagginess> sandprickle, i dont know if "update-rc.d" is supposed to be the norm, i'm betting it's going to be succeeded by something in ubuntu in the coming releases
[02:31] <klync> so there's a new one: firefox crashed, and now whenever i launch it it crashes on the recovery screen. clearly reading *something* corrupted in ~/
[02:32] <jagginess> klync, startup firefox in safemode, maybe its a plugin
[02:32] <klync> jagginess: crash happened when i was wheel-scrolling a text howto, but i'll try that
[02:32] <sandprickle> jagginess: thanks I'll check that out
[02:37] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll be back whenever, bye! -wave-
[02:37] <klync> jagginess: well, it was one of the several plugins i disabled. thanks. time to add back one by one...
[02:38] <heyuxiang> is it possbile to make debian looks like ubuntu but without ubuntu logo ?
[02:38] <klync> heyuxiang: that sounds more like a #debian question :P
[02:38] <heyuxiang> yep
[02:40] <maladore> Okay jagginess Wish Me luck
[02:40] <klync> heyuxiang: and ubuntu _works_ differently from debian (even though that's its base), so really aren't you asking "how do I make my debian desktop kick-butt?"
[02:44] <estudiante> hola
[02:44] <bazhang> !es | estudiante
[02:45] <estudiante> hi
[02:45] <estudiante> have
[02:46] <bazhang> estudiante, ubuntu support question?
[02:48] <maladore> Jagginess: i still run into cryptswap error on boot asking to either manual add or skip
[02:50] <ryan__> MSG
[03:12] <davicho> Hola a todos
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> adv
[03:12] <CanAnon__> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I need some hellllppppp
[03:12] <darkbishop> shoot.
[03:12] <CanAnon__> its re: ubuntu server+samba
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|CanAnon__
[03:13] <CanAnon__> im trying to setup a file server, but basically the issue is, the samba share wont work, or even let me connect to it, unless I have an SSH connection open :\
[03:14] <CanAnon__> when I have am connected to it via SSH it works fine
[03:14] <MindALot> FYI - windows 8 is mean to Ubuntu, and boot-repair doesn't like to be run from a 32 bit ubuntu from USB when fixing a drive with a 64 bit ubuntu.
[03:14] <CanAnon__> buuut thats rather inconvenient
[03:16] <linelevel> Hi guys. I successfully got my iPod into Disk Mode, but when I plug it into my USB port, it gets mounted in Read-Only mode. How do I fix this?
[03:17] <Nautilus> if I want to run a check on an ext3 filesystem, the OS partition, do I do that with: "shutdown -F now" then reboot?  Or is there a better way?
[03:20] <CanAnon__> anyone :\
[03:21] <Jordan_U> !fsck | CanAnon__
[03:21] <CanAnon__> i dont think thats gonna fix my samba share :P
[03:22] <CanAnon__> but thanks doods
[03:22] <Nautilus> thats for me I think :)
[03:22] <CanAnon__> haha
 does anybody know of away on linux to run mssql queries i.e t-sql queries
[03:22] <Jordan_U> CanAnon__: Sorry, that was meant for Nautilus
[03:22] <Nautilus> ty
[03:22] <ubuntu_> or if it is even possible
[03:22] <CanAnon__> ha its all good dood, any tips for a samba share that wont work unless an SSH connection is open?
[03:29] <Nautilus> !lamp
[03:29] <CanAnon__> ca
[03:29] <CanAnon__> scary
[03:31] <iManassah> hello
[03:31] <azend> If I'm getting serious I/O errors like this, should I just give up and decide the sd card is pooched?
[03:31] <azend> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160132/
[03:31] <azend> iManassah: hi
[03:32] <cfhowlett> azend: doesn't look good for the home team...
[03:32] <CanAnon__> anyone a samba expert?
[03:34] <pyrokinetic> hi there folks. looking for some assistance installing 12.04 on my laptop....if anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it.
[03:34] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: what's the issue?
[03:34] <dpwegener> I've had a number of instances of desktop crashes recently.  Each time I receive a popup upon login following the crash.  I go through the dialogs until it gets to a page that says precise is no longer under development and I need to use technical support to fix the problem.  It then gives me a link to tech support that lead me to this irc channel.  I need help figuring out what is crashing and why
[03:35] <Nautilus> dpwegener: one thing to start with is running MemTest
[03:35] <pyrokinetic> brb
[03:35] <pyrokinetic> sorry.
[03:36] <dpwegener> When I try running MemTest, I get command not found
[03:36] <azend> cfhowlett: sdb becomes sdc when sdb gets too many errors
[03:36] <cfhowlett> dpwegener: reboot.  memtest is a boot option in grub
[03:36] <azend> udev restarts the sd card
[03:36] <azend> or something does at least
[03:37] <cfhowlett> azend: wait.  you're telling me ubuntu is reassigning the device from sdb to sdc?  NEVER heard of any thing like that.
[03:38] <nitrohax> how does one make swapon by defualt?
[03:38] <azend> cfhowlett: yup
[03:39] <pyrokinetic> back now....sorry about that. can I still tell you my problem cfhowlett or are you busy?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> azend: above my pay grade.  stay in channel and ask again.  I've NO idea.
[03:39] <azend> cfhowlett: just tried to dd /dev/zero onto the drive and it switched to sdd
[03:39] <azend> sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc
[03:39] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: details
[03:39] <cfhowlett> azend: too weird for me and above my current level of proficiency.  Sorry.  Ask in channel.
[03:39] <azend> I should probably post on launchpad but I don't really know where to ask
[03:40] <cfhowlett> !launchpad|azend
[03:41] <r0llz> When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:41] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: trying to install ubuntu onto my laptop but my laptop has 4 partitions. sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4 (one of them is like a recovery thing or something for windows) ....anyway. whenever I try and resize my windows partition I get this message "An error occured while writing the changes to the storage devices"....it then is impossible to quit out of the partitioner/installer and I must reboot. rinse and repeat everytime I
[03:42] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: ok, first things first: you DID md5sum check that iso you downloaded, right?
[03:42] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: in truth? no. I got it forever ago from the website so I assumed everything was as it should be? :\
[03:43] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: *slappeth upsideth headeth*  always hash check.  you're downloading gigs of data that MUST be right or strange things happen.  15 seconds of caution vs. *** amount of frustration
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|pyrokinetic:
[03:44] <Nautilus> whats a good swap partition size for a 30G main partition?  Primary or logical?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: conventional wisdom seems to be swap = 2 times system ram
[03:44] <Nautilus> 4G enough?  2G ram
[03:44] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: so alright. assuming I do the md5 check and everything is fine......then what?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: yep
[03:45] <r0llz> When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:45] <Nautilus> Logical partition?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: kinda betting that is where the issue lies.  Please verify.
[03:45] <r0llz> I'm stumped
[03:46] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: logical
[03:46] <cfhowlett> r0llz: details
[03:47] <r0llz> cfhowlett, 802.11n dlink router, hp laptop running unbuntu 12.04 with gnome3, remind me what pertinent nfo im leaving out
[03:48] <cfhowlett> r0llz: ... okay.  and the problem is?
[03:48] <r0llz> cfhowlett, When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:49] <cfhowlett> r0llz: ah.  excellent description but, sadly, I've no smb experience to speak of.  Stay in channel, ask again.  also, maybe check in with #ubuntu-server
[03:54] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: how can I check my md5 from within linux? I'm running off a livecd (usb image actually) but have the .iso on my windows partition. I don't want to have to go all the way back onto windows just to check the md5. but I can't seem to find the file through ubuntu?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|pyrokinetic:
[03:55] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: in linux command line, navigate to the iso and run the check
[03:55] <howardgrigg> hi guys - I'm new to ubuntu and managing a server, I've installed a 2TB drive and copied about 9GB of media onto it but it's showing as 6% used
[03:55] <howardgrigg> I'm just wondering if I'm missing something or...
[03:56] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: whats your question?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: easy cheat, open a window navigator, open command line.  type your md5sum command and drag and drop the iso onto the terminal line.  the command will then point to the right location and begin the check
[03:56] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: what is the command line code again? thanks for all this btw.
[03:57] <SJr> I have an out of date package that really wants sun-java6-jdk to be installed. Is there a way I can create a dummy package for it.
[03:57] <SJr> alternatively can I just pretend the package isn't installed, it's buggy and did everything already.
[03:57] <howardgrigg> danielboston26, lol not sure… is there a good program for managing disks and filesystems that i could install on ubuntu-server?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:59] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: so my suggestion; don't bother with command line navigation to the iso.  Just type md5sum drag-n-drop-iso-here
[03:59] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: not sure
[04:00] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: check ubuntu software center for disk managerment
[04:01] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I did that, just like you said md5sum and dragged my iso to the terminal window, hit enter and then nothing. :\
[04:01] <ParkerR> pyrokinetic, Where is the iso located?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: it takes a bit of time to process?
[04:02] <earspliT> exit
[04:02] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: /media/B6068B36068AF6A1/Users/pyrokinetic/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:02] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I got a string of characters this time
[04:03] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: check the download page and you'll find the md5sum list.  your output should match...
[04:04] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: matches fine to the ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso version
[04:06] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: ok.  Making a suggestion you won't necessarily like; download the alternate installer.  Why?  A bit more manual control and more feedback.  You getting kicked out of the desktop installer without a more detailed error message leaves few options.
[04:06] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I
[04:06] <pyrokinetic> whoops
[04:07] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I figured that could be a possibility. a crappy possibility it is though. :( but I understand. what is the speed like? speed vs using a livecd I mean.
[04:08] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: alternate installer will install ubuntu just like desktop.  The INSTALL experience will be different ... and require you to pay a bit closer attention to what you're doing.
[04:09] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: ooh. are we talking about wubi? or something else?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: absolutely not.  (btw wubi is NOT recommended for permanent install - only testing).  The alternate installer is a text based setting, so no pretty ubuntu graphics to look at while you're getting set up.  Output will be the same ubuntu as you would install with ubuntu desktop iso.
[04:12] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: alternate is a bit more hands on and less handholding than you would have with the desktop iso scenario
[04:12] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alright. gotcha. my next question is this....when I look through my partitions through gparted it shows my windows partition (the biggest partition) as being unused. yet when I look through files through the menu system I can see all my files I'd normally see through windows. just to clarify....regardless of what gparted says....THAT is the partition I need to shrink...yes?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: correct.
[04:13] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alright, thank you for your help. :D any tips on where I can get more info for this alternate install?
[04:14] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: you should also have a windows recovery partition and possibly a system manufacturer partition, e.g Dell, HP, etc.  FWIW, I killed my windows recovery.
[04:14] <lauratika> videos wont load fully or will take very long time, on any browser my speed 350kb
[04:14] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I'll tell you what I have, hold on..
[04:16] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I have "System" ...."Recovery" ...."HP Tools".....and the other partition has all my files, including my Windows folder. the System folder is the one concerning me, it has two folders..."Boot" and "System Volume Information"
[04:16] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: when I needed to reinstall windows, I downloaded the iso from digitalriver.com (microsoft's official source), burned a usb and reinstalled.
[04:17] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: windows 7, right?
[04:17] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: correct.
[04:17] <Stralytic> anyone know of any irc channels discussing windows 8? ;)
[04:18] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: don't touch the System Reserved folder.
[04:19] <cfhowlett> Stralytic: ask in #windows
[04:19] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I don't have a 'System Reserved' folder, just 'System'....(folder...partition...one or the other, it shows up like a drive.)
[04:20] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: right.  don't touch.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: need I mention; back up critical windows data?
[04:20] <Stralytic> cfhowlett: now there's an idea, i though a linux channel would be more helpful than a windows one though :D
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Stralytic: I know there's a win8 developer forum, so irc seems likely.  good luck
[04:21] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I think that might be quite a wise move. but to clarify....for the millionth time...so I don't end up beating my computer to death....the partition I want to shrink is the one with all my files I'd typically see/use in windows....yes?
[04:22] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: correct.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: relax.  you can breath now.
[04:23] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alrighty. I can so totally do this. right. I shall do it. guess I better flick over to windows to start downloading the alternative and such.
[04:23] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: do you have a dualboot tutorial that you're following?
[04:25] <Nautilus> anyone know if this is a good tutorial for installing NoMachine (NX) on 12.04?  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[04:25] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I had a tutorial, yeah. it was working fine until I hit my first stumbling block. I find it frustrating as all hell......I've wanted to use linux for YEARS and I've yet to be successful. so maybe this will be the one.
[04:25] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: but I don't have a tutorial for this alternate version.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: consider virtualbox
[04:26] <Nautilus> yea, a VM would be nice
[04:26] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I've used it. but it's just a tease and I find it too limiting. I want to unleash my computer's potential! ...or something.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: understood
[04:27] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: so far as the alternate installer, it follows a similar sequence as the graphic installer but no, uh, graphics.  take your time, think things through and you should be just fine.
[04:28] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: thanks so much for your help. I really do appreciate it. :D
[04:28] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: no worries, mate.  Have fun, be safe.
[04:29] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: and you! toodles for now!
[04:32] <Nautilus> just installed 12.04 (I'm use to 10.04).  How do I open Terminal?
[04:32] <bazhang> Nautilus, control alt T
[04:33] <Nautilus> bazhang: yowza. any path thropugh the GUI?
[04:33] <bazhang> Nautilus, what about alt f2 gnome-terminal
[04:35] <com12> hello
[04:35] <com12> i carnt get my usb floppy drive to work
[04:35] <osk004> hello :)
[04:36] <com12> anyone there?
[04:36] <Nautilus> bazhang: ok, command input there, but I'm not one for remembering kbd shortcuts.
[04:37] <pollard777> com12, you are sure that your floppy work ok on other system?
[04:37] <com12> pollard777, yes it does work on other systems
[04:38] <Nautilus> bazhang: oh cool, it's in the toolbar now
[04:38] <com12> pollard777, is comes up in disk utillity but doesnt read the floppy disk
[04:40] <pollard777> com12, I do not know, wait for another guy to help you. Be patient.
[04:40] <com12> pollard777,  ok
[04:42] <qmr> Any idea why when choosing 'ubuntu' session I don't get Unity menu thing or a proper window bar ???
[04:50] <[1]red> i need help installing with raid
[04:50] <[1]red> can anyone here help?
[04:58] <langhun> Where to get the chat history in the channel?
[04:58] <[1]red> no one?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> !log | langhun
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !raid | [1]red
[05:00] <Nautilus> anyone here use NX?  I'm moving to 12.04 and having questions
[05:01] <iManasseh> hi Nautilus - what's the prob
[05:02] <Nautilus> iManassah: new install of 12.04 and just installed ssh & NX, then logged in from another box and all I see is the desktop background.
[05:02] <GreenEmber> i just installed a new graphics card and now it is running in low graphics mode and when i try to open the nvidia-settings app it says im not using the nvidia module. do i need to get a different module for this new card?
[05:03] <Nautilus> iManassah: NX 3.5 server, NX 3.4.x on my Windows box I'm using to log in
[05:04] <iManasseh> no Unity launcher icons?
[05:05] <Nautilus> nope.  ohhhh, Compiz is crashing after boot.
[05:06] <Nautilus> so maybe that's breaking graphic display?
[05:07] <Nautilus> is tere a way I can disable Compiz for now?
[05:07] <iManasseh> lol - Once in a while I'll have a prob with Compiz...login as 2d?
[05:08] <Nautilus> oh, lemme see if I can figure out how.  I did read a note about that
[05:09] <iManasseh> well, I don't think NX is capable of using Compiz completely.
[05:09] <Nautilus> iManassah: I don't know where to set that? In my client connection?
[05:09] <iManasseh> you can reset the Unity from the terminal...
[05:10] <Nautilus> i think I need that 2d login, but dunno where/how to find it's settings.  server, client?
[05:10] <iManasseh> set what?
[05:10] <iManasseh> um, try client...
[05:10] <iManasseh> i'm not 100% sure
[05:10] <Nautilus> didnt see it there.
[05:11] <GreenEmber> what do i need to do to remove my old graphics driver and get the new one?
[05:11] <Nautilus> iManassah: oh, looking at this now:  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[05:12] <viriya> hello all i want to ask I use ubuntu but can not print, why?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> viriya: did you configure your printer?
[05:13] <viriya> how
[05:13] <iManasseh> Nautilus - hang tight...
[05:13] <viriya> i use hp deskjet 2566
[05:13] <cfhowlett> viriya: system>settings>Printers
[05:13] <cfhowlett> viriya: still have to configure that in ubuntu...
[05:13] <ermygawd> hello guys
[05:13] <ermygawd> my ubuntu is borked
[05:14] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: greetings - borked how?
[05:14] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: i dont have graphical boot for some reason so i dunno if my system is checking discs
[05:14] <ermygawd> but even starting in safeX does not work
[05:14] <ermygawd> i cannot do anything
[05:14] <Nautilus> iManassah: I did create a file (locally) that I see on my remote session, so that's cool.  I guess I just don't have the top and left tool bars
[05:14] <iManasseh> Nautilus:  I'm not sure buddy...i'm stumped
[05:14] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: can you login at all?
[05:14] <viriya> after printing
[05:15] <ermygawd> i did however drop to root and dhclient
[05:15] <Nautilus> s'ok, I'm getting there :)
[05:15] <Nautilus> iManassah: thanks!
[05:15] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: no if I could log in i wouldnt be here
[05:15] <iManasseh> no prob, sorry i wasn't more help
[05:15] <viriya> halo
[05:15] <iManasseh> awesome nick by the way
[05:15] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: viriya we see you.
[05:15] <ermygawd> any ideas
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !patience|viriya:
[05:16] <viriya> after printing?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: try this; change your boot options to show verbose boot and you can see what's happening during bootup
[05:16] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: nice, what file is that?
[05:16] <viriya> sory i am from indonesia
[05:17] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: version of ubuntu you're running?
[05:17] <ermygawd> brb
[05:17] <ermygawd> for some reason ctrl+alt+number is not working
[05:17] <cfhowlett> viriya: you have to configure your printer or no printing.
[05:18] <root_> ummm.. how do I get my ubuntu version/
[05:18] <root_> ?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> root_: lsb_release -a
[05:19] <ermygawd> 12.04
[05:19] <ermygawd> how do i start the grpahica manger?
[05:19] <ermygawd> if not startx anymore
[05:19] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: see this for boot up messages  http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu1204VerboseBoot
[05:19] <ermygawd> lol
[05:20] <ermygawd> i am in irssi
[05:20] <ermygawd> i cannot use web browser
[05:20] <ermygawd> is there a more simple method?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> ermygawd: sudo service lightdm start
[05:20] <ermygawd> good idea Jordan_U
[05:20] <ermygawd> thx bru
[05:22] <Jak_Atackka> Hello, I need some help with cfdisk
[05:23] <Jak_Atackka> Hello?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !patience|Jak_Atackka:   we c u...
[05:25] <Jak_Atackka> Okay. I've already checked the website (as well as Google) and I keep running into a problem that seemingly nobody else has
[05:25] <upset> Is there a note-taking application for ubuntu where I can write in a margin besides my notes?
[05:25] <rollitup> Hi I have been experiencing strange behavior on my Ubuntu desktop, like the wrong keys keep appearing on the screen, applications keep opening up like the calculator , could this be a hack attempt ?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> rollitup: possibly but I'd check my keyboard settings first to ensure it's configured correctly
[05:26] <rollitup> everything keeps happening in a Ghostly manner
[05:26] <rollitup> i am not even touching the keyboard
[05:26] <upset> rollitup: Perhaps it is broken
[05:26] <upset> rollitup: Did you spill anything on it?
[05:27] <upset> rollitup: Is it old?
[05:27] <rollitup> no
[05:27] <cfhowlett> upset: children and/or other users near by?
[05:27] <upset> cfhowlett:??
[05:27] <cfhowlett> hmm>upset
[05:27] <cfhowlett> hmm >upset
[05:28] <upset> Again, method of taking notes in ubuntu where I can add things in the margin?
[05:28] <upset> Or annotate my notes in some way
[05:29] <upset> Besides xournal
[05:29] <cfhowlett> upset: several note options in software center...
[05:30] <upset> cfhowlett: Thanks, I know. But I don't know which, if any, allow you to write in the margins or on the side somehow
[05:30] <upset> cfhowlett: Most are actually for memos or sticky notes in the first place
[05:30] <sgo11> why is there only python-distribute-doc package and no python-distribute? if so, how to install python-distribute? thanks.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> upset: ok.  I've only used my default xubuntu note package so can't recommend anything...
[05:31] <upset> cfhowlett: Ah. C'est la vie
[05:34] <upset> No way to write side notes in any ubuntu program? Agh.
[05:35] <rollitup> sorry cfhowlett am back now there was someone at the door
[05:35] <rollitup> i have no childrens here
[05:36] <rollitup> but do u think it could be the keyboard
[05:36] <upset> rollitup: Easily
[05:36] <upset> Could simply be faulty
[05:36] <cfhowlett> rollitup: ok.  well, if you're sure there has been no liquid contamination, the keyboard settings are correct, the keyboard works and is plugged in and no keys are stuck ...
[05:36] <upset> rollitup: plug in another keyboard and see if the ghostly things still happen
[05:37] <cfhowlett> upset: then I don't know what to tell you ....  But here's a test. Create or login as another user and see if the issue continues.
[05:37] <rollitup> yes upset
[05:37] <upset> cfhowlett: Don't tell me! Tell fruit rollup
[05:37] <cfhowlett> rollitup: happens with another keyboard then it's NOT the keyboard.
[05:38] <upset> Late guys, there's a pagestyle called marginalia that I've discovered
[05:38] <rollitup> yes i have to go to the stores to get a new keyboard now
[05:38] <cfhowlett> upset: sorry, got confused there.  Dual screen dyslexia ...
[05:38] <upset> Too hardcore for me. I only have so many eyeballs
[05:38] <upset> Goodbye
[05:39] <rollitup> is there a safe mode in ubuntu ?
[05:40] <keanne> hi anyone running gammu, gammu-smsd in ubuntu?
[05:40] <FishFace> Holding down the SHIFT key before your normal boot screen comes up will give you options.
[05:41] <Wuffy> I know when dual booting, there is a safe mode of ubuntu listed in Grub. I'me a bit of a neophyte, but  if you do as Fish Face said, the grub loader will show up, and give you options for safe mode
[05:42] <keanne> i've been trying to use the runonreceive, running manually works but using gammu-smsd doesnt. log shows it was ran fine. i was wondering if there is an ubuntu specific like permission issues
[05:47] <MerlynKorr> I keep getting locked out from system admin actions where i know dern well that i am logged as one and that the code is correct. what can i do to bypass it in the instance whEre it asks for the passcode to do so in users and groups?
[05:50] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[05:51] <laolin> hello
[05:52] <MerlynKorr> did you see my description of my problem?
[05:53] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[05:53] <schwert> what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <PiNinja> I just got a new net gear wireless adapter, would it be possible to download the driver on windows then install it on ubuntu?
[05:54] <schwert> MerlynKorr, are you just looking for the sudo commands to do a task that you cant do through the GUI
[05:54] <MerlynKorr> im trying to get any admin actions done any various thing....
[05:54] <schwert> what does that mean?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> the passcode doesnt let me do it/them.
[05:55] <schwert> if you type 'sudo ls' into console
[05:55] <schwert> and it asks you for a password
[05:55] <schwert> can you put in the correct password
[05:55] <schwert> ?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> the passcode is refused.
[05:55] <schwert> what is the message that it returns?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> under any and all actions the passcode is refused,
[05:56] <schwert> then unless some magic is happening, it is the wrong password
[05:56] <schwert> and I dont have any answers for you
[05:56] <schwert> apologies
[05:56] <MerlynKorr> schwert the passcode comes back as "invalid password"
[05:56] <schwert> so you are in the sudoers file
[05:57] <schwert> and you are putting the wrong password in
[05:57] <schwert> that is all I can tell you
[05:57] <MerlynKorr> actually i dont do it in terminal.
[05:57] <MerlynKorr> its within the normal os area.
[05:58] <MerlynKorr> and every t9ime i try to input and enter the code, the dern machine gives an er that amounts to password refusal.
[05:59] <schwert> not sure what to tell you
[05:59] <MerlynKorr> it happens on both of my machines.
[05:59] <MerlynKorr> i was told by this machine to report it as a bug.
[06:00] <MerlynKorr> both machines have given the err statement.
[06:00] <passing_ruffian> maybe you should try in the terminal with the sudo command
[06:01] <frybye> Hi - when opening virtualbox I got a note about a new version (4.1.20) being available and a link to download it from virtualbox.org Do I need to uninstall the old one first?
[06:01] <MerlynKorr> i have an anylist type question and it is: can pdf files do that to this computer?
[06:02] <frybye> - I assume this is just as much an ubuntu question as particularly vbox related...
[06:02] <MerlynKorr> see... i tried it in sudo at the terminal level already and no dice.
[06:03] <MerlynKorr> thank you anyway and can anyone point me to where i can report the bug?
[06:04] <passing_ruffian> frybye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921670
[06:05] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[06:05] <sdkfsd324> how do I graphics?
[06:06] <Gallomimia> the same way you type?
[06:06] <MerlynKorr> never mind
[06:06] <MerlynKorr> thankls tho.
[06:07] <Gallomimia> so... why does sheldon cooper from big bang theory say ubuntu is his favorite distro while he abhors windows 7 for its more user friendly GUI? isn't ubuntu the most friendly interface of the linux world?
[06:07] <sdkfsd324> thanks
[06:08] <frybye> passing_ruffian: thanks...
[06:12] <mfilipe> is there any way to put my pictures of the Shotwell in my compose message in the Thunderbird?
[06:18] <vamp774> mfilipe:  you may be able to just drag and drop
[06:19] <Ascavasaion> How do I do a release upgrade?
[06:20] <cihhan> Hi all! How can I learn when a package in repo was updated? Xen hypervisor was giving some problems in my system and I wonder if they have updated the package.
[06:21] <Antares> Ascavasaion, does it show up along with the other updates?
[06:21] <Ascavasaion> No, and I am sure it should because I am still on 10.04.
[06:22] <Antares> Have you tried some console commands?
[06:23] <hateball> Ascavasaion: Go into the settings of the update-manager and check that it actually looks for release-upgrades
[06:25] <asalways> hello guys
[06:25] <popsul_> hi
[06:25] <witchmaster> hi
[06:25] <asalways> i have a question here. how can i run gui apps wihtout desktop enviroemnt
[06:26] <hateball> asalways: Start an X session, tell your apps to run there. Question is why? :p
[06:26] <popsul_> asalways, not is way
[06:26] <asalways> i know i must have x server and gtk libraries which i alreadt have.
[06:26] <Vink> Hello! I'm trying to install 12.04 on a different machine and it's not working. Specifically, I couldn't use the default option of installing everything in one place, because grub could not be installed.   I chose LTS updates, and nothing.
[06:27] <Vink> And now it's even worse because I have too little understanding of how partitioning works.
[06:27] <asalways> hateball: i have started my machine  from konsole  and run X then i set the DISPLAY: 0 then i ran my app but it showed me an error
[06:27] <Antares> Ascavasaion, I haven't tried going from 10.04 personally, but have you tried something like this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/?ModPagespeed=noscript ?
[06:27] <hateball> Ascavasaion: you could try running, from the cli, "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[06:28] <hateball> Ascavasaion: that would be "do-release-upgrade -p"
[06:28] <Gallomimia> partitioning is not as complicated as you think. it's not a difficult concept at all to grasp. perhaps you are questioning why and failing to understand that. it may be that no one quite understands the why of partitioning schemes in linux installs ;)
[06:29] <hateball> asalways: Well without the exact error it's hard to tell :) Some apps may look if you're running $Environment and refuse to run on bare X, etc
[06:29] <Gallomimia> vink what state is the machine you're trying to install upon in right now?
[06:30] <asalways> Error unable to initialize GTK+. is DISPLAY set properly . i set DISPLAY 0
[06:30] <asalways> ahh. i think i know da the solution
[06:30] <Vink> Gallomimia: It's in a pretty bad state. :P Well, I can use the installation CD but when I try to install I can't even get back to the partitioning part, so clearly I've messed things up.
[06:31] <Ascavasaion> hateball: I am doing that... will it automatically jump to the newest LTS?
[06:32] <hateball> Ascavasaion: I *think* so, since that should be the latest proposed upgrade
[06:32] <Ascavasaion> hateball: Okay, thank you.
[06:32] <hateball> Ascavasaion: It should tell you before it starts, either way
[06:32] <Vink> I can get to the "Preparing to install Ubuntu" step, but when I press Continue it just keeps "thinking" and doesn't get anywhere.
[06:33] <Gallomimia> ugh that's bad. what state was it in before you ever put a ubuntu liveCD in it?
[06:34] <Gallomimia> was there another OS installed? Is there still? is there any files on there you would rather not lose?
[06:34] <Vink> Obviously I had no problems continuing earlier. This happened after one of my failed partitioning attempts. The installer said there was an error and that I should reboot and so I did.
[06:35] <Vink> Well, the previous owner had a suspicious windows 7. That worked while I downloaded and burned the installation CD.
[06:35] <Gallomimia> obviously its recommended to backup important files before trying an install. is this a problem? cause my next advice is to completely blast the drive in question. erase it completely and don't put any partitions on it. then run installer again. anyone else got advice?
[06:35] <Gallomimia> oh it's a fresh acquisition. nothing you need on the drive
[06:36] <Gallomimia> best way to fix this problem from this point is to boot from the liveCD and use some tools to tinker with the partitions
[06:36] <Vink> Yes, fresh for me at least, but it's not a brand new machine.
[06:36] <Gallomimia> yeah no one cares how old it is. the only concern right now is the potential to lose a ton of data you can't afford losing
[06:37] <Vink> Right. Some tools to tinker you say?
[06:37] <Gallomimia> there's partition tools in the gui. parted i think?
[06:38] <Gallomimia> and i suggest unpartitioning the drive, or fast-formatting it. or something like that. remove any grub bootloaders bootsectors stuff like that
[06:38] <Gallomimia> get rid of it all and attempt a clean install from step 1 again
[06:39] <Vink> Using alt+f2 and searching parted I find parted_devices and parted_server. Shall I use the former, then?
[06:40] <hateball> Vink: It's more likely to be called "Disk utility" or some such
[06:40] <hateball> Vink: Although it's probably gparted. Even if parted works as well. as does shred.
[06:41] <Vink> hateball: Thanks. I'm not used to this no-menu thing, though. How do I find it?
[06:41] <hateball> Vink: alt+f2, type "disk..." should find it, I'd think
[06:42] <hateball> Vink: failing that, launch a terminal, run gparted from there :p
[06:42] <Vink> I'll try the terminal.
[06:43] <Vink> Haha! Says gparted requires root privileges.
[06:44] <Vink> How do I get that on a LiveCD?
[06:45] <howardgrigg> hey guys I'm trying to use apt-get but I'm getting lots of errors like  Something wicked happened resolving 'au.archive.ubuntu.com:http'
[06:45] <zevon> howdy everyone
[06:45] <Vink> howdy zevon
[06:46] <Vink> Is there a way to get root privileges on a LiveCD?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:did you try sudo apt-get update?
[06:48] <howardgrigg> lotuspsychje, yea that's what is giving the error
[06:48] <Vink> Oh, nevermind, sudo gparted worked.
[06:50] <Vink> Now how do I unpartition everything?
[06:51] <MonkeyDust> Vink  what do you mean?
[06:53] <Vink> MonkeyDust, I messed up the partitioning. So I'd like to remove everything and start again from scratch. So using the LiveCD, I started gparted and would like to know how to proceed.
[06:53] <hateball> Vink: You should be able to choose some like "create new partition table"
[06:53] <MonkeyDust> Vink  simply delete all partitions, backup first if needed
[06:53] <OnlyMAJ> i have problem with RecordMy Desktop !
[06:54] <hateball> !details | OnlyMAJ
[06:54] <FallGuy44> Hi, anybody around?
[06:54] <jalexandru> FallGuy44: yes ... almost 1.6k of us
[06:54] <OnlyMAJ> hateball: i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want to use record mydesktop
[06:55] <FallGuy44> My goodness, that's a lot of people.
[06:55] <OnlyMAJ> hateball: i have dell lotop inspiron N5010
[06:55] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  keep it one line please
[06:55] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you have issues installing? using ? do you get an error?
[06:56] <Vink> OK, now the raided thing is unallocated, sdb is also unallocated, sda has a problem, says "can't have a partition outside the disk!".
[06:56] <MonkeyDust> ah raid, missed that part
[06:57] <OnlyMAJ> recordMyDesktop doesnt capture screen correctly ! just some part of screen capture after encoding .
[06:57] <Vink> I don't even know what raid is, to be honest.
[06:57] <FallGuy44> A person on a website has posted his Public GPG key. It's just plaintext, it's not a "key file" or anything. How do I use that key to create an encrypted message for him?
[06:58] <chuck> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[06:59] <FallGuy44> Is anybody here familiar with the use of GPG?
[07:00] <Vink> Quick wikipedia reading, it's something that combines several disk drives into one logical unit. I guess that makes things more complicated? So what do I do next?
[07:00] <vamp774> Vink:  if you dont know what it is you dont need it
[07:00] <Vink> vamp774, can I remove it somehow?
[07:00] <vamp774> You wont be using RAID if you arent familiar with it
[07:01] <vamp774> Im unsure of specificaly what you're trying to do as I came into the discussion halfway
[07:01] <vamp774> Vink: you got a new PC with windows on it right?
[07:01] <OnlyMAJ> i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell N5010 lotop.i want to use recordmydesktop.after capturing just some part of screen are visible and other area doesn't captured correcty . issue ???
[07:02] <Vink> vamp774, Oh, sorry. I messed up something with the partitioning when trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.
[07:02] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, I bought a machine from a family member who bought it from a friend, and it had windows.
[07:03] <TheHumanScience> So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.
[07:03] <vamp774> Vink:  How many partitions do you need?  If you're just using ubuntu you only need 1
[07:03] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell N5010 lotop.i want to use recordmydesktop.after capturing just some part of screen are visible and other area doesn't captured correcty . issue ???
[07:03] <vamp774> Vink:  just hit use entire disk
[07:03] <TheHumanScience> Now I can't install anything without getting the initramfs
[07:03] <Vink> vamp774, one would be OK for me.
[07:04] <vamp774> Vink:  you probably dont want someone elses windows copy on your machine
[07:04] <vamp774> lol
[07:04] <TheHumanScience> Am i in the right place for this question?
[07:04] <vamp774> Vink: Ubuntu desktop?
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  can't help, never used recordmydestop
[07:04] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: have you tried recording at different resolutions?
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  or try kazam
[07:04] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: tnx
[07:04] <Vink> vamp774, Right, I don't. :) But using the entire disk didn't work, so then I tried partitioning and now it's messed up.
[07:05] <Ascavasaion> hateball: It is updating to maverick which is 10.10 :(  So much for 12.04.  and if it has to do the update in stages it is going to be downloading Gigs! :(
[07:05] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: changing my screen resolution ???
[07:05] <vamp774> Vink:  I havent used ubuntu 12.04 yet I still prefer pre-Unity era
[07:05] <cihhan> I'm having some problems with XEN installation. I installed it and I have 24GB mem. However, I get the following error when I boot XEN kernel: not enough memory relocate dom0 kernel image
[07:05] <cihhan> Any ideas?
[07:05] <vamp774> Vink:  What do you mean the entire disk doesnt work?
[07:05] <Vink> vamp774: When I tried to use the entire disk, there was a fatal error when it tried to install grub.
[07:05] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: yes, try it to see if it makes any differences...
[07:06] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: wait...
[07:06] <TheHumanScience> any help, please?
[07:06] <Vink> vamp774: A friend said some systems can't handle having grub in the same place as everything, that's why I tried the partitioning alternative.
[07:06] <MonkeyDust> TheHumanScience  start with a question
[07:06] <vamp774> Vink:  hmm.  I've had ubuntu on many machines, versions, old pieces of junk too.  never seen that...let me think for a sec
[07:06] <TheHumanScience> I did...
[07:07] <TheHumanScience> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[07:07] <TheHumanScience> So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.
[07:07] <Vink> Well, I suppose I could try again now that I removed things with gparted.
[07:08] <vamp774> Vink:  You should still be able to boot from the LiveCD regardless
[07:09] <Vink> vamp774: Yes, I'm using the LiveCD on that machine.
[07:09] <vamp774> Are you installing Desktop I assume? not server?
[07:09] <vamp774> I have no idea where gparted is in that
[07:09] <Vink> Yes, desktop.
[07:09] <vamp774> i usually use the drag and drop feature
[07:09] <Vink> OK, things are happening now, that's good.
[07:09] <vamp774> in the "wizard" for installing ubuntu
[07:09] <vamp774> lol
[07:10] <vamp774> I really hate doing dual boots
[07:10] <vamp774> so otherwise i just wipe the disk
[07:10] <vamp774> Ubuntu requires swap space too
[07:11] <vamp774> so you would have to take that into consideration if you wanted to manually partition
[07:11] <vamp774> but you only need 1 partition so just make your life easy and let ubuntu do the work
[07:11] <Vink> I'm trying entire disk again now.
[07:11] <vamp774> ok
[07:12] <Vink> So we'll see if that grub error reappears in a few minutes.
[07:13] <vamp774> vink:  Grub is a bootloader btw.  Incidentally I've messed up Windows bootloaders good times
[07:13] <TheHumanScience> I asked a question but still got no answer
[07:13] <soman> Hi all! What is xubuntu? Is it 1 in 1 as Ubuntu but with other graphic shell?
[07:13] <DJones> soman: Yes, it uses the XFCE desktop
[07:14] <DJones> !xubuntu | soman
[07:14] <Vink> vamp774: Yes, that much I knew at least, that it's a bootloader. :)
[07:14] <soman> It also supported by Canonical?
[07:14] <vamp774> lol
[07:15] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: correct . when i select an area on screen it run correctly.but can i do that with whole screen ???
[07:15] <vamp774> If you did in fact mess that up you would have to use tools on the LiveCD
[07:15] <vamp774> ( which is how I fixed 7 )
[07:15] <vamp774> and almost had a heartattack
[07:15] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, I used gparted from the LiveCD and deleted everything.
[07:16] <TheHumanScience> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[07:17] <Vink> It's installing now. IIRC, the grub error happened towards the end.
[07:17] <vamp774> Aw man that stinks.  you have to wait for the entire installation to finish then get an error
[07:18] <Vink> Ah, there it is again!
[07:18] <vamp774> ok another idea
[07:18] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you should be able to do it for the whole screen to, I checked some forms and in some cases it needed a patch to work on some graphic card ... I don't know in your case how you can fix this but it is caused by your graphic card
[07:18] <Vink> Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda. Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error.
[07:18] <schnuffle> Vink: what kind of error?
[07:18] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: forums*
[07:18] <vamp774> bootloader errors
[07:19] <vamp774> wiping and putting on ubuntu clean
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i check with kazam.it work correctly !
[07:19] <vamp774> ( vink is )
[07:19] <schnuffle> Vink: you cloud try to install grub manually
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: thnx.
[07:19] <Vink> OK, I click OK on the error alert.
[07:19] <kristian_> My computer works rather strange: The interface kind'a works "half"... Keyboard mostly works while the mouse clicks doesn't. I can press alt+F2 and open a program, and run a terminal etc. But I cannot press anything with the left mouse button. If I press alt+F2 and enter firefox, i can press enter, but not click the "run" button with the mouse. However sometimes the middle mouse button works...
[07:19] <vamp774> Vink:  Can you boot into anything now lol?
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: another question ???
[07:20] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: go ahead...
[07:20] <kristian_> It's the same if I run distribution * from a livecd (*=linux mint xfce, linux mint kde, opensuse kde...)
[07:20] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: when i start lampp then ubuntu doesn't shutdown correctly .issue ???
[07:21] <Vink> This is what it says next: Bootloader install failed. Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location. How would you like to procees? Choose a different device to install the bootloader on [or] Continue without a bootloader. [or] Cancel the installation.
[07:21] <Vink> s/procees/proceed/
[07:21] <vamp774> continue w/out bootloader sounds like a bad idea
[07:21] <Gallomimia> uh... hm.
[07:21] <schnuffle> Vink: how is your harddisk layout?
[07:21] <Gallomimia> well it's the only option
[07:22] <schnuffle> Vink: Without a bootloader you can install it later
[07:22] <Gallomimia> it's by the installer's default. i presume?
[07:22] <MonkeyDust> Vink  type sudo fdsik -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[07:22] <Vink> The preselected option is to choose a different device, but that might be just because it's the first option.
[07:22] <schnuffle> Vink: are you sure sda is your correct HDD
[07:23] <Vink> schnuffle: no... also, there's a raid thing.
[07:23] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: " ubuntu doesn't shutdown correctly" it goes to log in screen? or what happens?
[07:23] <schnuffle> Vink: Do what MonkeyDust suggested
[07:23] <Gallomimia> yeah then we'll know some info. is this a raid you're installing onto?
[07:23] <Gallomimia> explains why there is trouble installing an MBR
[07:24] <Vink> MonkeyDust, I can't paste because it's a different machine from this one.
[07:24] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: crash on loader screen and stop there while i shutdown manually !
[07:25] <Vink> But I suppose I can try typing it...
[07:25] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: http://www.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?p=57328 it seems to be a bug
[07:25] <vamp774> Gallominia:  I asked Vink earlier and he isn't setting up a RAID
[07:26] <vamp774> Vink recieved a pc from a friend and is attempting to get ubuntu on it
[07:28] <Vink> fdsik: command not found [pastebinit is not installed either]
[07:29] <vamp774> VinkL  Just to be clear you are walking through the GUI setup and its asking you language etc. right?
[07:29] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i work with computer after starting lampp but after my work when i shutdown it doesn't shutdown and stop on dark pink screen while i shutdown maually with power button .
[07:29] <Gallomimia> someone spelled fdisk wrong.
[07:29] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, it did ask for language and keyboard etc.
[07:29] <Vink> Oh, fdisk, OK.
[07:29] <Gallomimia> pastebinit is probably not on your livecd
[07:30] <Gallomimia> so just leave the | out and pastebin what you see.
[07:30] <Vink> OK, I'll try that.
[07:31] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: I don't have a quick solution for this: you can probably search for the lampp pid number and kill it at shutdown but I don't know if this is a viable solution...
[07:32] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i think it's a problem with graphic card.because i can't hibernate in any way too !!!!
[07:33] <Vink> pastebin.com/f4VGdh2c
[07:34] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: might be... you can start with that; searching for a solution to upgrade the software for your graphic card.... research it and see if you can get extra info...
[07:35] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ok.thnx anyway. can i ask another one ????
[07:35] <vamp774> I've gotten boot errors going ubuntu to windows ( shhh! ) but not the other way
[07:36] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you can ask as many questions as you want I you can address to the whole chat room; if somebody else knows how to help they will do it... :)
[07:36] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ;-)
[07:37] <mehdi> ey guys i installed windows 8 and i cant boot my linux   i just did sudo grub-install but now i cant boot non of my OS wat should i do?
[07:37] <FallGuy44> Does anybody in here know anything about GPG or Seahorse?
[07:37] <FallGuy44> If not, where should I go?
[07:37] <vamp774> goody more boot erros
[07:38] <Vink> Maybe there's a boot error club to join?
[07:38] <vamp774> Putting windows on after ubuntu Windows tries to put its bootloaders there
[07:38] <vamp774> lol
[07:38] <vamp774> you may need a recovery disc for windows
[07:38] <FallGuy44> GPG is encryption. Does anybody know anything about encryption?
[07:38] <vamp774> I have had that happen
[07:39] <OnlyMAJ> mehdi: try with a live  linux and  change grub settings !
[07:39] <hateball> !anyone | FallGuy44
[07:39] <Vink> So... any advice on what I should do next?
[07:39] <FallGuy44> Oh, ok.
[07:40] <FallGuy44> I've loaded some public keys into Seahorse. How do I encrypt a .txt file?
[07:40] <vamp774> Vink:  im looking at the webpage ( pastebin )
[07:40] <CorruptDropbear> Well, I guess that kinda works
[07:40] <vamp774> This goes a bit out of my leauge i was hoping the other guy would reply again lol
[07:41] <vamp774> Yeah this RAID stuff needs to go away you arent using RAID trust me
[07:41] <Vink> I don't know how to make it go away.
[07:41] <CorruptDropbear> QUESTION: If i have no unity bars, how do I restart unity without it giving me a hissy fit?
[07:41] <vamp774> From what I understand RAID is multiple disks
[07:41] <CorruptDropbear> i'm currenty unable to see the top taskbar or anything
[07:41] <vamp774> Rapid Array of Inexpensive DIsks or something if i remeebr
[07:42] <CorruptDropbear> just my desktop
[07:42] <vamp774> *redundant
[07:42] <vamp774> *independant
[07:42] <vamp774> You have 1 disk
[07:42] <vamp774> this is an issue
[07:42] <vamp774> lol
[07:42] <vamp774> Vink: When is it asking you to do raid?
[07:43] <vamp774> You hit entire disk right? NOT select manually
[07:43] <OnlyMAJ> anyone know php irc rooms ????
[07:43] <xiukun> drupal_mail() ,  How can I judge whether a Email has been sent successfully ?
[07:43] <Vink> It's not asking me to do raid. Yes, I picked entire disk.
[07:43] <vamp774> Then what comes up; sorry its almost 4am here....
[07:44] <OnlyMAJ> can anybody say some famous php irc rooms ????
[07:44] <FallGuy44> Are there any other programs I could use in Ubuntu to encrypt a message with GPG?
[07:44] <auronandace> !alis | OnlyMAJ
[07:44] <mehdi> OnlyMAJ: i just did grub-install and i cant boot any of my OSes wat should i do?
[07:44] <FallGuy44> Besides Seahorse, which apparently doesn't do that?
[07:44] <Vink> It selects the raid thing, I think. But I'm still at the Bootloader install failed-dialogue.
[07:44] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  #php is very famous, even I know it
[07:44] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: can I pm you?
[07:44] <Vink> Someone said I could continue without the bootloader and install it later?
[07:45] <CorruptDropbear> Spamming it again: I currently can see nothing but the desktop, windows have no bar above them, no unity sidebar. What do?
[07:45] <Gallomimia> vink: as near as i can tell, something's totally fuctup.
[07:45] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: about  ???
[07:45] <vamp774> I don't know how that would work Vink, it needs it to bootstrap the OS
[07:45] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: I assume you have php questions :)
[07:45] <Gallomimia> that's about all it tells me on the pastebin you sent. i think it's failing to assemble the raid prior to attempting to boot from it.
[07:46] <vamp774> What other options besides RAID?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> or attempting to install a bootable OS
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> CorruptDropbear  try alt-f2 unity --reset
[07:46] <vamp774> You literally cannot do a RAID you have 1 disk
[07:46] <Vink> Gallomimia: :( Can anything be done?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> yeah. what it comes down to here is... do you need to raid this system? why?
[07:46] <vamp774> This is like a family pc right?
[07:46] <CorruptDropbear> I can't get anything with alt-2
[07:46] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ok. i wanna know more about MVC. do you know some practices about that ????
[07:46] <CorruptDropbear> alt-f2
[07:47] <Vink> Let me try cancelling the installation and see what it says at the selection step.
[07:47] <CorruptDropbear> monkeydust: can't get anything with alt-f2, nothing appears
[07:47] <MonkeyDust> CorruptDropbear  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here
[07:47] <Vink> No, no.
[07:47] <FallGuy44> Is there another time of day where this chatroom is more populated?
[07:47] <Gallomimia> typically the only reason to raid is for speed, and do you ultimately need that? i think not. unraid the disks and install on one.
[07:47] <Vink> Wait, it warns that this may leave my computer unable to boot.
[07:47] <Gallomimia> it's already unable to boot.
[07:47] <vamp774> exactly
[07:47] <no-n> amixer reports that my sound is mono. how do I make it stereo?
[07:47] <Vink> Gallomimia, Sure, but how do I unraid?
[07:47] <vamp774> you can from the CD howveer
[07:48] <vamp774> it means your hard disk
[07:48] <d1rkp1tt> Hi Guys, I have a site running with postgres, python, apache, django ... and I want to have a quick and easy install/recovery process other than imaging the server. I would like to script the install of these parts. Can anyone point me in the right direction of the best way to do this?
[07:48] <Gallomimia> raids are... finnickey.
[07:48] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Encryption can be achived with GPG/GnuPG.
[07:48] <CorruptDropbear> First I tried to install Nvidia's latest drivers through the command prompt, turning off X and lightdm, then there was an error with starting x so I had to uninstall Nvidia drivers.
[07:48] <CorruptDropbear> Startx now works, but no unity appears.
[07:48] <vamp774> I've installed several versions of ubuntu yet I dont remember it asking me for a RAID setup
[07:49] <CorruptDropbear> so I just get a desktop. can open windows
[07:49] <FallGuy44> w4sp: Is that the name of the program? I have Seahorse already... it appears to hold keys but not actually do anything with them.
[07:49] <Vink> I never asked to raid. It was just there already.
[07:49] <CorruptDropbear> can't move them, that's pretty much it
[07:49] <Gallomimia> d1rkp1tt: i would just write a script that installs all the packages you want. the ones you listed pretty much. do some lookups on the ubuntu website of package names which are appropriate, and make very very good and frequent backups of the config files involved.
[07:50] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Thanks, mostly I am just wondering about the question and answer parts for postgres for example
[07:50] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, How to tackle those with responses when scripting
[07:50] <Vink> OK, Installation type, I select Erase disk and install Ubuntu.
[07:50] <OnlyMAJ> mehdi: check your boot drive that is grub installed there ????
[07:50] <Gallomimia> Vink: must be in the BIOS. consider donkeying around with bios settings for awhile. maybe even resetting to factory settings?
[07:51] <Vink> Then on Select drive there is only one alternative, which is Raided.
[07:51] <Gallomimia> d1rkp1tt: i do believe there are options in scripts to provide answers to those. man apt-get
[07:51] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Thanks for that
[07:51] <Gallomimia> as far as i know there's an option to always answer yes, but that's probably not what you want
[07:51] <Vink> Gallomimia: BIOS... OK, anything in particular I should look for there?
[07:52] <Gallomimia> the scripts to provide root passwords and things like that? yeah maybe that can be scripted. suggest you look for details in the actual postgres package
[07:52] <Gallomimia> someone somewhere has scripted that. guaranteed.
[07:52] <coraxx> Anybody with IPTABLES knowledge --> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source $PUBLIC188  ....is that correct and how do I add a paramter that makes sure only this rules apply to one specific internal ip adress ?
[07:53] <d1rkp1tt> Thanks
[07:53] <Gallomimia> im also a noob when it comes to ubuntu. still learning, but there's options in dpkg (a part of apt-get) which allow you to re-run config scripts such as for postgres
[07:53] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Seahorse is to store keys. Often, those programs are referred to as 'wallet' or 'keyring' and manages keys. Your desire is to encrupt the file. GnuPG, GPG (GPL), PGP (commercial), OpenPGP (a standard) is the choice when it comes to encryption.
[07:54] <Gallomimia> so, i'm assuming that those options allow you to specify responses? or... something.
[07:54] <Gallomimia> or perhaps the solution lies in making it skip that script, running it manually later, or scripting the setup yourself with canned responses.
[07:54] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: #php is on freenode ???
[07:54] <Gallomimia> everything is on freenode.
[07:54] <CorruptDropbear>  First I tried to install Nvidia's latest drivers through the command prompt, turning off X and lightdm, then there was an error with starting x so I had to uninstall Nvidia drivers. startx now works, but just brings me to a desktop. Windows do not have any topbar, no unity taskbar.
[07:55] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Yeah not sure, just trying to read up on it now
[07:55] <Gallomimia> good luck! i am going to sleep...
[07:55] <vamp774> Vink:  still there?
[07:56] <theadmin> I'm going to be right back, resizing partitions...
[07:57] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, trying to find something about raid in BIOS setup.
[07:57] <vamp774> Not to be rude but I am almost certain you will not solve this via BIOS
[07:57] <vamp774> whatever you do do not flash the bios
[07:57] <Vink> vamp774, or something about resetting to factory settings.
[07:58] <vamp774> OK so im watching a vid to see what ur looking at
[07:58] <Vink> vamp774, OK. Then how do I remove the raid thing?
[07:58] <vamp774> ( havent installed in a few months )
[07:58] <vamp774> The guy clicks erase and use entire disk
[07:58] <vamp774> I rememeber this
[07:58] <Vink> Did that.
[07:58] <vamp774> then he selects the disk
[07:59] <Vink> But then it selects raided disk. No other option available.
[07:59] <vamp774> From the drop menu correct?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  type /join #php to find out
[07:59] <Vink> Only one alternative there, so it's preselected.
[08:00] <theadmin> Actually, nevermind, I'm back
[08:00] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: it doesn't work for me !!!!
[08:00] <vamp774> Then you click install now and it fails at the end right?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  maybe you have to register in nickserv
[08:01] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: #php Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited !!!
[08:01] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  maybe you have to register in nickserv
[08:01] <DJones> !register | OnlyMAJ Some channels need a registered nick to be able to join,
[08:02] <vamp774> vink:  hmm
[08:02] <vamp774> reading some threads on ubuntu forum
[08:02] <vamp774> if the rest of the OS installed correctly
[08:03] <vamp774> you should probably attempt to install grub manually or somehow fix the corrupter bootloader
[08:03] <vamp774> this is why its not related to your BIOS
[08:05] <Vink> So install grub manually, you say?
[08:05] <vamp774> VInk:  unlesss your controller is RAID  ( bios ? )
[08:05] <vamp774> your HDD controller?
[08:05] <Vink> How do I check that?
[08:05] <vamp774> spam delete as your pc starts
[08:05] <vamp774> go into bios
[08:06] <vamp774> poke around and make sure your hard disk controller is not on RAID
[08:06] <vamp774> it should say IDE or AHCI
[08:06] <vamp774> instead
[08:07] <Vink> OK. I didn't see anything about raid there.
[08:07] <vamp774> What is it set to
[08:07] <vamp774> your SATA controller?
[08:08] <vamp774> unless you see stuff like Primary slave etc
[08:08] <monkeyaewtr> hlleeeeeeeeeeeeo
[08:08] <monkeyaewtr> anyone herrrrrrrre
[08:09] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: We can see you.
[08:09] <monkeyaewtr> ohai
[08:09] <monkeyaewtr> so I'm having an issue with ubuntu
[08:10] <W4sp> !ask | monkeyaewtr
[08:10] <theadmin> !ask | monkeyaewtr
[08:11] <monkeyaewtr> While attempting to install mysql-server (via apt-get install mysql-server) I'm getting this error: groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later. I'm logged in as root and I removed all the *.lock files after googling them. What should I do?
[08:11] <theadmin> monkeyaewtr: You're logged in as root? That sounds wrong.
[08:11] <monkeyaewtr> whoami returns root.
[08:12] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: You should not log in as root. Instead, use 'sudo <command>'.
[08:12] <theadmin> monkeyaewtr: Are you sure you're on a valid Ubuntu install? Because, well, Ubuntu's not supposed to have an enabled root account.
[08:12] <theadmin> !sudo | monkeyaewtr
[08:12] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Is your question related to Ubuntu?
[08:12] <vamp774> Vink:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1955993
[08:12] <monkeyaewtr> yeah, I'm in 12.04 LTS
[08:12] <vamp774> Havent read all the way through but it looks like your situation
[08:13] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Then how come that you are able to login as 'root'?
[08:13] <monkeyaewtr> I honestly have no idea, this is my first time running it, I usually run Debian
[08:14] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Why do you remove all .lock files?
[08:15] <monkeyaewtr> I googled the issue before I came here, people were having the same error and apparently it was because they had a /etc/group.lock file
[08:15] <monkeyaewtr> I removed it; didn't work for me though
[08:15] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Seahorse is to store keys. Often, those programs are referred to as 'wallet' or 'keyring' and manages keys. Your desire is to encrupt the file. GnuPG, GPG (GPL), PGP (commercial), OpenPGP (a standard) is the choice when it comes to encryption.
[08:16] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i wanna know more about MVC in php. can you help me in login process ???
[08:16] <auronandace> W4sp: he left
[08:17] <W4sp> auronandace: :-( Another hit-and-run. Thanks for letting me know as I do not monitor JOINS NICKS QUITS.
[08:17] <auronandace> W4sp: if you can't tab complete the nick then they aren't here
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> W4sp  same here, there's also MODES and PARTS to be ignored
[08:18] <W4sp> auronandace: I know. It takes me some time to type. By then the person must have left.
[08:19] <W4sp> MonkeyDust: Yeah, same here too. I don't like it that some come in and expect an answer before they have hit their enter key. :-(
[08:20] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi