[12:46] <Ben64> Aviv_: you keep doing everything the hardest possible way. stop making it so difficult for yourself. use vnc, use a vnc client on windows, use vnc server on server. or even better, don't use GUI on a server!!!
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Ben64, servers don't have gui!
[12:47] <Ben64> cfhowlett: Aviv_'s does :|
[12:47] <thoonai> Ben64: fullack!
[12:47] <Ben64> cfhowlett: this has been going on for days now
[12:47] <thoonai> Aviv_: use ssh
[12:47] <Quatroking> sacarlson, honestly I'd really just like a login like win8's PIN login
[12:47] <sacarlson> Quatroking: ok take the last letter off your password and still push return so you will have one less keystroke
[12:48] <Quatroking> lmao
[12:48] <thoonai> Aviv_: its simple, more or less intuitive and works fine mostly
[12:48] <Aviv_> ok, so...  ssh?
[12:48] <thoonai> someone using gpg? and --symmetric? and --passphrase?
[12:48] <Ben64> Aviv_: yes, ssh is normally how one would interact with a server
[12:49] <thoonai> Aviv_: yeah. its nice, I'm even doing irc on ssh right now
[12:49] <sacarlson> Quatroking: or you could remap the last leter of your password to be active as caridge return and have an auto script at login that puts it back the way it was
[12:49] <Aviv_> but how i use ssh to see xubuntu?
[12:49] <Aviv_> desktop
[12:49] <Ben64> Aviv_: why do you need to see?
[12:49] <Ben64> its a server, they don't have desktops
[12:49] <michele> headless
[12:50] <thoonai> Aviv_: everything you can do with a Desktop, you can do via ssh, theres no need for graphical stuff
[12:50] <Aviv_> well it will be vnc then...  i need gui for some programs
[12:51] <Ben64> what programs
[12:51] <thoonai> Aviv_: and graphical stuff is clogging your internet connection
[12:51] <Aviv_> what makes me furious id that i managed to install freenx successfully but cant see the desktop
[12:52] <Aviv_> using the nomachine client
[12:52] <Ben64> Aviv_: what programs do you need to run with gui on a server?
[12:52] <Aviv_> must be somenhing in configuration
[12:53] <Aviv_> some i know uses cli, but i prefer gui. i have answered that same question so many times now here this week...
[12:53] <Ben64> you haven't answered it once yet
[12:54] <Aviv_> i know i wnt gui, so i think thats not relevant.
[12:54] <Aviv_> you are going to advice me to use cli
[12:54] <Aviv_> and i dont want to so...
[12:54] <thoonai> probably someone knows how to tame gpg into accepting --passphrase flag?
[12:54] <Ben64> Aviv_: well you've been trying the wrong way for days now, maybe try accepting some advice now?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> :@
[12:55] <thoonai> Aviv_: I'm online since 30min, what programs do you need?
[12:55] <Aviv_> the right way for you is cli in the server i know
[12:56] <thoonai> cfhowlett: gpg?
[12:56] <thoonai> by any chance?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> thoonai, no idea thus me = silent.  :)
[12:56] <thoonai> cfhowlett: meh :)
[12:56] <Ben64> Aviv_: would you just answer the question already
[12:56] <thoonai> Ben64: I guess hes tryin to install LOIC ^^
[12:58] <_go_unity> after upgrade to 14.10, cannot start unity or apps after starting system, help
[12:59] <thoonai> I think Aviv_ is a troll ^^
[13:00] <Aviv_> what programs do i need?
[13:00] <thoonai> ok Aviv_ is a troll
[13:00] <thoonai> :D
[13:01] <Aviv_> ...
[13:01] <thoonai> probably a linux irc troll (bot woven with a great configured eliza)
[13:01] <mikroman> I'm here for like half an hour and I'm exasperated with how stubborn he is. Poor Ben64 :D
[13:02] <yorwos> hi all :D
[13:02] <Ben64> mikroman: try ~48 hours
[13:02] <mikroman> hey yorwos
[13:02] <mgedmin> _go_unity, what happens?
[13:02] <mikroman> Ben64: My condolences...
[13:03] <mgedmin> _go_unity, do you get a login screen?  can you log in?
[13:03] <_go_unity> logon & enter password but the icons do not appear.  i do see the background and pointer
[13:03] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2files new ,low latency linux headers+kernel , and then these 2 : linux kernel image for version 3.13 .
[13:03] <yorwos> oops
[13:03] <_go_unity> i can start the All Settings window but not much else.
[13:04] <yorwos> ignore that ill type it full
[13:04] <cfhowlett> yorwos, paste it
[13:04] <lizzie_> i'm having sound issues, and am following this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:04] <lizzie_> the instructions say ALSA library version and utilities version are exactly the same version number, but they are not..
[13:04] <_go_unity> there were messages that errors occurred but i do not see that on this system start now
[13:04] <yorwos> im using the gui second :D
[13:05] <_go_unity> (this chat session is running on a different pc)
[13:05] <lizzie_> theinstructions show that driver/library/utilities version should all match, but each oone is different
[13:05] <Marc-Julian> I am still using XChat in ubuntu 14.10
[13:06] <lizzie_> AND the driver version is k3.13.0-39-generic, not even CLOSE to the 1.0.25 and <IP_ADDRESS> for the others
[13:06] <lizzie_> what is the significance of k3.13.0-39-generic vs 1.0.25?
[13:07] <Ben64> lizzie_: all three are different? thats not good
[13:07] <_go_unity> how can i access the older error logs?
[13:08] <Ben64> lizzie_: this is what i got -- Driver version:     k3.13.0-37-generic Library version:    <IP_ADDRESS> Utilities version:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:08] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2 files : "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image". same for headers 2files.  is this normal ? i dont understand what the 1st of these files do , im only used to getting 2nd kind of files
[13:08] <lizzie_> ben, ok, i was concerned that the driver version was SO different... at least we've narrowed down my issue now..
[13:09] <Ben64> lizzie_: do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:10] <thoonai> cfhowlett: I found my problems solution: --passphrase works only if --batch is flagged
[13:10] <thoonai> cfhowlett: ;)
[13:10] <cfhowlett> thoonai, that is some fine detective work, Lou!  Good job.
[13:10] <lizzie_> Ben64, 0 upgraded/installed/removed
[13:11] <yorwos> any ideas ? my cpu is q9550
[13:11] <Ben64> lizzie_: no errors?
[13:11] <thoonai> cfhowlett: meh -.- I'm to stupid to read the manpage properly
[13:13] <lizzie_> Ben64:  The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[13:13] <lizzie_>   libtcl8.5 tcl8.5
[13:13] <lizzie_> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[13:13] <lizzie_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:13] <thoonai> so im off, bye
[13:13] <thoonai> :)
[13:17] <_go_unity> I had a proprietary graphics driver installed before the upgrade to 14.10.  i could try to reinstall the ait/amd graphics driver?
[13:18] <lizzie_> :(
[13:18] <mgedmin> _go_unity, that doesn't necessarily sound like a driver error...
[13:19] <mgedmin> _go_unity, can you launch a terminal (ctrl-alt-t is the default shortcut, I believe)?
[13:19] <mgedmin> _go_unity, if not, can you log in on a text console (ctrl+alt+f1) and make sure all the unity packages are installed ('sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' will install the missing ones, if any)?
[13:20] <_go_unity> ctl-alt-t does not start a new window
[13:20] <k1l_> _go_unity: was it the amd site driver?
[13:21] <_go_unity> i started a text console
[13:21] <_go_unity> what now for text console?
[13:21] <mgedmin> _go_unity, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <_go_unity> btw i started a backup of home dir
[13:22] <lizzie_> !!ALSA Version
[13:22] <lizzie_> !!------------
[13:22] <lizzie_> Driver version:     k3.13.0-39-generic
[13:22] <lizzie_> Library version:    1.0.25
[13:22] <lizzie_> Utilities version:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:22] <apt-get> anyone knows how I can easily replace scrot's "--exec" function with maim?
[13:22] <apt-get>  file=$(scrot (date +%Y-%m-%d)_scrot.png -e 'echo -n $f')
[13:22] <lizzie_> how do i get my library to match my utilities?
[13:22] <apt-get> this, for example
[13:24] <JuJuBee_> How do I give a user access to configure network settings for a wifi adapter for example?
[13:24] <_go_unity> apt-get install cannot run, does not have lock.... how do i get back to the original window, so i can exit the update window?
[13:24] <mgedmin> _go_unity, ctrl-alt-f7
[13:25] <_go_unity> thx
[13:25] <mgedmin> _go_unity, now tell me how you're able to launch programs in the gui when unity is broken?
[13:27] <_go_unity> from change desktop and then go to all settings
[13:27] <_go_unity> (back door?)
[13:28] <_go_unity> the install ubuntu-desktop returned that the software is already at newest version...
[13:28] <_go_unity> how to trigger reinstall?
[13:28] <mgedmin> _go_unity, ok, your problem is an incorrect compiz configuration
[13:29] <mgedmin> at one point 'unity --reset' was the way to fix that; now it's deprecated and no longer supported and I don't know what replaced it
[13:29] <mgedmin> anybody here uses unity?  I like gnome-shell myself
[13:29] <mgedmin> _go_unity, one way to fix things is to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package, launch ccsm in the GUI somehow, find the Unity plugin and make sure it's enabled
[13:29] <k1l_> _go_unity: again the question: did you install the amd driver form the amd site?
[13:29]  * mgedmin had to help do this on a coworker's machine the other day
[13:30] <mgedmin> _go_unity, your problem is not related to video drivers
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: dont be too fast on resetting stuff if its a drivers issue at all
[13:30] <mgedmin> k1l_, it's not
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: it is most times.
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: did you ever start a unity wihtout proper 3d support? it looks exactly like that
[13:31] <mgedmin> okay, perhaps a bug in the userspace part of the video driver caused a compiz crash and that made compiz automatically disable the unity plugin
[13:31] <_go_unity> google returns this from ubuntuhandbook ...
[13:31] <k1l_> mgedmin: are you sure about that or are you guessing?
[13:31] <_go_unity> After that, run the below command to restart Unity:
[13:31] <_go_unity> setsid unity
[13:32] <mgedmin> k1l_, guessing
[13:32] <k1l_> mgedmin: because there is a known issue with the 3rd party fglrx installs and upgrades causing a missing 3d support
[13:32] <_go_unity> to reset unity/compiz ...
[13:32] <_go_unity> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[13:32] <_go_unity> setsid unity
[13:33] <k1l_> but since _go_unity doesnt answer my questions to find the real cause of the issue you can go and let him reset everything that doesnt help
[13:33] <mgedmin> k1l_, I'm curious about the mechanism for this
[13:33] <_go_unity> k1l_, not pls repeat your q
[13:34] <maxvi> how can I setting VPN (PPTP) connection in ubuntu 14.10?
[13:34] <_go_unity> i believe that i installed the amd driver from the additional drivers tab
[13:35] <maxvi> Gateway - is it domain ?
[13:35] <crankharder> does logrotate log its activities somewhere normally? not seeing anything in syslog or some "/var/log/logrotate*" file
[13:37] <crankharder> trying to figure out why I have a 26G log file when logrotate.conf says it should be capped at 500M
[13:41] <imbezol> hey guys. i find that every time i close the lid to my laptop and then come back to it the next morning the wifi doesn't work
[13:41] <imbezol> i have to hardware disable the wifi then re-enable to get it worknig
[13:41] <_go_unity> thnks for suggestions ... i will install the amd graphics driver, and, if needed, reinstall ubuntu-desktop.
[13:41] <mgedmin> crankharder, if there's a logfile.1 you can look at its timestamp
[13:42] <imbezol> additionally the AP i have set to autoconnect never does.. i have to click connect on it
[13:42] <crankharder> mgedmin: there is, that doesn't help
[13:42] <mgedmin> crankharder, you can run logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.d/yourconfigfile and see what it thinks it should do
[13:42] <imbezol> maybe it doesn't autoconnect after you've had it disabled.. i dunno.. but i shouldn't have to hardware disable and re-enable to get it working
[13:44] <ShishKabab> My computer has been swapping a lot the last couple of weeks even though I haven't been using it differently than normal. 800M is in swap and it says my memory is full. I have to wait 5 seconds for doing anything. But when I look at the processes it doesn't look like everything added up equals the total it says it's using. Could there be something else using up my memory?
[13:45] <sacarlson> imbezol: I think there is an option the shuts down the system with lid close instead of puting it in standby or hybernate.  as those modes rarely work with wifi through transition
[13:45] <CodeGosu> i often need to block/unblock incoming  connections to few ports, what command line command can block/unblock incoming connections to port A,B,C?
[13:45] <imbezol> sacarlson: hmm.. whereabouts would i find that?
[13:45] <sacarlson> imbezol: preferences I think
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: sorry to be daft, but preferences within which program?
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: i don't see anything in network manager
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: and don't see anything like that in system settings
[13:47] <pgar23> CodeGosu: You can use iiptables command to accomplish that
[13:47] <pgar23> CodeGosu: like this " iptables -I OUTPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT ; iptables -I INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS> -j ACCEPT "
[13:47] <sacarlson> imbezol: on mine it's preferences>power management
[13:48] <Adephit> well i give up... its possible to install vnc4server with xubuntu?
[13:48] <Avic> well i give up... its possible to install vnc4server with xubuntu?
[13:49] <imbezol> sacarlson: oh you mean completely shut down the system, not the wifi
[13:49] <mgedmin> Avic, yes: sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[13:49] <Avic> and installing xubuntu?
[13:49] <imbezol> sacarlson: hmm.. hoping not to have to do that because i have a lot of stuff open (including vmware and a host of windows apps for work inside it) at all times
[13:50] <Yutht> someone here is an expert of cinema 4d ?
[13:50] <moatazY> hello there i wonder if there any bug about skype in 14.04 lts !? i instaled it and is not working right :(
[13:50] <Avic> hoe do i instll xubuntu in the ubuntu 14.04 trusty?
[13:52] <k1l_> Avic: install xubuntu-desktop package
[13:52] <Avic> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[13:53] <k1l_> Avic: yes, that will install the whole xubuntu desktop experience.
[13:53] <Avic> ok, is much lighter than kubuntu, right?
[13:54] <feurd> Hello everyone! Has someone been able to make the global auto-type feature work with keepass2 under Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:55] <sacarlson> imbezol: I also note I don't see the power down with lid close in my power management so I don't know were I saw it,  and I don't use it as I don't have a laptop
[13:55] <k1l_> Avic: its is some lighter. but if you want really more lightweight go for Lubuntu
[13:56] <Avic> hmmm
[13:57] <Avic> so lubuntu + vnc4server?
[13:58] <k1l_> Avic: i dont know what you want to do at all there
[13:59] <nusr> how can i search for a file with a particular extension in a different partition
[14:02] <nusr> locate .bbb find . -type f -name "*.bbb" would work, but how can i specify a different partition?
[14:02] <imbezol> sacarlson: i think i figured it out actually..  http://askubuntu.com/questions/348858/wifi-doesnt-work-after-hibernate-but-does-work-after-suspend
[14:02] <mgedmin> nusr, find /mountpoint -type f ...
[14:03] <imbezol> sacarlson: applied that fix and it seems to work... the wifi works without doing anything now. i do still have to click connect on the ap i was on before but at least i don't have to mess with the hardware switch to get the wifi device to work
[14:03] <sacarlson> imbezol: ya there ya go,  I think you can change that in power managment
[14:04] <nusr> mgedmin: mountpoint is the name of the partition right? what if it is "875 GB Volume"
[14:04] <sacarlson> imbezol: maybe you didn't set your access point to connect as default
[14:04] <robcsi> hi. does anyone know of free software that can split a screen into multiple parts for presentation purposes? I'm thinking of scenarios where I show different picturs, programs or any data in each part of the screen and it can go fullscreen
[14:05] <imbezol> sacarlson: i did.. it just doesn't respect the setting
[14:05] <mgedmin> nusr, it's the directory where that partition is mounted; probably /media/user/"875 GB Volume"
[14:05] <mgedmin> nusr, run 'df' to see
[14:06] <sacarlson> robcsi: standard plug and play you can plug in many monitors if you have multi video cards
[14:06] <robcsi> sacarlson: yes, I know that, but unfortunately I have only one.
[14:06] <sacarlson> robcsi: I have two screens now and can drag an app from one screen to another
[14:07] <robcsi> sacarlson: I know that, too. I have to solve this with one video card, one monitor
[14:07] <sacarlson> robcsi: well how did you plan to drive many monitors with only one?
[14:08] <nusr> mgedmin: ok 875gb volume is in /dev/sd1 so i type find /dev/sda1 -type f and what about the file extension type?
[14:08] <mgedmin> nusr, nope; /dev/sda1 is the partition, not the mountpoint.  find wants the mountpoint
[14:09] <nusr> mgedmin: ok got it
[14:09] <imbezol> robcsi: i haven't heard of an app that can do that but it would be interesting
[14:09] <robcsi> sacarlson: I'm looking for something similar to MaxTo, AVManager
[14:09] <sacarlson> robcsi: well you can run more than one picture view at a time and scale them to any size on one screen and go full screen on any one of them
[14:09] <imbezol> robcsi: you could do it for text with "screen" app, but i don't think that's what you're looking for
[14:10] <robcsi> imbezol: you are right, but I'm not looking for that
[14:10] <BackBoxScrub> test
[14:10] <imbezol> fail
[14:10] <mgedmin> robcsi, window tiling?  I think <Super>Left/Right do that by default on Unity
[14:10] <mgedmin> robcsi, some hardcore people use tiling window managers like xmonad or awesome; I've never tried any
[14:11] <sacarlson> robcsi: oh or inkskape  maybe where you can drag images rotate them resize them as many images as you want
[14:11] <somsip> *awesomewm
[14:11] <nusr> mgedmin: ok i've just been blinded by flies flying down my terminal... :)   how do i specify the extension i am looking for /media/qq/3AA449A6A449658B -type f  [what goes here? just .txt?]
[14:11] <imbezol> robcsi: actually.. you could just have multiple desktops
[14:11] <mgedmin> nusr, add -name '*.txt' to the end of the command
[14:11] <robcsi> mgedmin: yes, I know. I'm trying to setup a monitor on a wall in an office and have stuff appear on it, but without having window decorations visible
[14:12] <alreadytriedgoog> hey i need help installing chrome, i went to google.com/chrome  selected the right package for install, first tried with the open with software center option, didnt work, then i dl'd it and tried again and i keep getting auth errors. software center doesnt want me to have chrome for some reason?
[14:12] <somsip> robcsi: tiling WMs do allow removal of window decoration. Do a search for some screenshots of dwm, xmonad, awesomewm, etc
[14:12] <mgedmin> robcsi, yeah, I'm pretty sure xmonad can do that... but I can't help you with it
[14:13] <robcsi> somsip: mgedmin: yes, I'm aware of them. there's also i3
[14:13] <alreadytriedgoog> and i wanna get the version right from google not a ppa cause on my other machine i did a cli install for chrome and it doesnt work with netflix
[14:14] <nusr> mgedmin: it works...but it's coming out like a sputtering tap and not a full gusher like -type f
[14:14] <nusr> mgedmin: thank you
[14:14] <mgedmin> nusr, yeah, disks are slow
[14:14] <somsip> robcsi: a few others too - wiki has a full list. But if it's for a display, probably go with the one that seems easiest
[14:14] <alreadytriedgoog> but version 37 of chrome works with netflix without having to use wine or anything else, so how do i get chrome installed without errors please?
[14:14] <robcsi> somsip: which wiki are you referring to?
[14:15] <somsip> robcsi: wikipedia - habit to abbreviate to wiki
[14:15] <robcsi> somsip: oh, ok :)
[14:15] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, last time I tried the .deb downloaded from google, it worked for me (opened with software center, clicled install, entered my password)
[14:15] <somsip> robcsi: eg: google://wiki tiling window managers
[14:16] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what sort of auth errors are you getting?
[14:16] <darthpuppy> I'm installing trove on an ubuntu 14.04 and I am getting python-trove : Depends: python-sqlalchemy (< 0.9) but 0.9.7-1~cloud0 is to be installed when I try to install it.
[14:16] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, right but for some reason the password prompt isn't showing up in software center and it wont let chrome install
[14:16] <robcsi> somsip: I've been through many google results, but it's not a tiling window manager I'm looking for exactly
[14:16] <Avic> can i install ubuntu 14.04 -> lxde + vnc ? Its this possiible?
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> yeah my password prompt wont show. i have a feeling that's why the installer gets auth errors
[14:17] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, authorization is cached for some time (15 minutes?), it won't just keep asking again if you authenticate right once
[14:17] <somsip> robcsi: ok - I just saw the bit about awesomewm and xmonad and jumped in. I'll back away gracefully :)
[14:17] <darthpuppy> This in on an openstack controller node if that matters
[14:17] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what's the error that software center gives you?  copy/paste or screenshot to imgur.com would be best
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, yeah but i just woke up, started my machine and went for chrome, i havent put my password in at all yet today
[14:17] <robcsi> somsip: your help is much appreciated, as is everybody else's. thanks for the suggestions
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin,  ok 1 sec
[14:18] <moatazY> hello there i wonder if i can use skype through pidgin  :)
[14:18] <alreadytriedgoog> this is what it says http://pastebin.com/RZUtQ1Yd
[14:19] <sacarlson> moatazY: it used to work before so I think it still does
[14:20] <moatazY> sacarlson: hello my Saviour u helped me before , i tried but got no luck wz it , and beside skype not working on my 14.04
[14:21] <alreadytriedgoog> then the second message just says im not allowed to perform this action
[14:21] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, whoa, something is rather broken on your system!  "authentication service is not available"
[14:21] <sacarlson> moatazY: I'm running skype on 14.04 it just needs some touchs on pulse audio
[14:21] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, yeah thats my point, darn linux isnt working again
[14:22] <moatazY> sacarlson: umm , mine didt launch the app
[14:22] <sacarlson> moatazY: well the first thing you do is run it in a term and see what the error is then google it
[14:22] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/785117
[14:22] <moatazY> sacarlson:
[14:22] <sacarlson> moatazY: it was the first google that fixed it
[14:23] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, hm, what ubuntu version do you have?  what desktop environment do you use?
[14:23] <moatazY> sacarlson: but i didnt how to run an app from terminal
[14:23] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, idk what the problem could be, i dont do much on my computer except watch hulu and play on steam, why cant linux be stable and reliable its about 15 years old isnt it?
[14:23] <alreadytriedgoog> i use xubuntu 14.04
[14:23] <sacarlson> moatazY: well it's my beer time chat yall later
[14:23] <mgedmin> hmmm
[14:24] <moatazY> sacarlson: enjoy iy :
[14:24] <moatazY> iy*
[14:24] <moatazY> it *
[14:24] <raviepic3> help needed - i mistakenly uninstalled python 2.7 in the aim of installing python 3
[14:24] <raviepic3> now i have the desktop manager removed !
[14:24] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, http://askubuntu.com/questions/464077/authentication-error-when-trying-to-install-or-uninstall-using-ubuntu-software-c has some troubleshooting suggestions
[14:25] <raviepic3> finding it very difficult to proceed
[14:25] <raviepic3> i googled and people told me to download the python manually and install and then install the gnome-desktop
[14:25] <imbezol> raviepic3: does apt-get not work anymore?
[14:25] <alreadytriedgoog> although linux has never worked right on my machine, it doesnt boot right, the grub never shows on the first boot, i have to reboot and hold shift, then i have to edit the start up option and add nomodeset. its just such a headache and all i want is my netflix
[14:25] <raviepic3> i installed the python 2.7 manually and then when i try to install gnome-desktop all i get is 404 for the urls
[14:26] <edwinH> anyone has any success installing 14.04 server on a hp proliant ml110? installer does recognize raid configuration but after enabling/activating it no hard drives can be selected..
[14:26] <mgedmin> raviepic3, run sudo apt-get update
[14:26] <FilthyMacNasty> auso apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
[14:27] <raviepic3> imbezol: thanks for replying - i am not sure whether the error produced by apt-get install gnome-desktop or apt-get update --fix missing is due tooutdated source file or this python uninstall !
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, this sometimes happens when new updates are pushed, the mirrors delete old ones, and your apt tries to fetch the deleted versions because it doesn't realize newer ones are available
[14:27] <raviepic3> mgedmin: ^
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, lack of python shouldn't break apt
[14:27] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, they suggest something isnt installed, however i doubt i'd be able to install steam and games if i was missing software, seeing as how this pc worked before this morning either linux is really unstable and its losing my files or my 6 month old hard drive is failing and thats really unlikely.
[14:27] <raviepic3> mgedmin: have run apt-get update and apt-get update --fix-missing but all i get was 404 for several urls
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, also you probably want to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (if you use Ubuntu and not one of the other flavours)
[14:28] <firebb> how do i upgrade my 14.04 to 14.10?
[14:28] <izolate> Hey, does ~/.ssh/authorized_keys need to be a file, or can it be a folder consisting of keys inside it (for the sake of organization)?
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> hello
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> anyone can help me please
[14:28] <mgedmin> raviepic3, 404 errors from 'apt-get update'?  these mean some of the repositories you've enabled are bad (or don't have packages for your ubuntu version); pastebin the errors if you wish
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> the backlight of my laptop has gone
[14:28] <raviepic3> FilthyMacNasty: have tried gnome-desktop and got all 404 for urls will try the flashback now
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> i cant do sudo setpci
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> it doesnt work
[14:28] <mgedmin> raviepic3, 404 errors from 'apt-get update' are mostly harmless, do try apt-get install
[14:29] <mgedmin> raviepic3, apt-get install --fix-missing doesn't do what you think it does; you need to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:29] <raviepic3> mgedmin: when i remove python, i think my xterminal is also gone !.. how do i access the terminal to copy and paste the errors ?
[14:29] <raviepic3> right now i am running the command on CLI mode with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then switching back to GUI with F7
[14:30] <imbezol> raviepic3: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:30] <nusr> mgedmin: now that i have found the file on the partition i want to move it to my linux partition. i tried this but the error message says no file.      cp /media/qq/3AA449A6A449658B/Documents and Settings/user/My Documents/data/s/LE/New Folder/<nameofthefile.txt /home/qq/Documents/<nameofthefile.txt>  the error message says <nameofthefile> is not a valid directory...the file name was in a microsoft partition and has spaces in the name.
[14:30] <ElGatoSaez> anyone can help me please
[14:31] <raviepic3> imbezol: when i try to do that - i get 404 for all lines saying failed to fetch !
[14:31] <raviepic3> is that a cause of broekn source list ? if yes can i rebuild it ?
[14:32] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, further testing reveals its not a chrome issue, i cant install anything with the software center. is there a way i an remove the pesky need for auth to begin with? It's annoying just like windows user action center notifing you of every click you make!
[14:32] <ElGatoSaez> help me please
[14:33] <ElGatoSaez> anyone
[14:33] <imbezol> raviepic3: but your networking is working fine otherwise?
[14:34] <GawdDamnedNeeded> hi?
[14:34] <ElGatoSaez> hi
[14:34] <alreadytriedgoog> hello
[14:34] <raviepic3> imbezol: when the login screen appears - there it seems that the top bar is available.. so i connect my datacard using that in the login screen and then select the user to login..
[14:34] <ses1984> can someone point me in the right direction for this: what do i need to do so that when a user logs in, they get NFS shares mounted with their credentials?
[14:35] <raviepic3> because that top bar is not available after loging inside the gnome desktop imbezol
[14:35] <mgedmin> raviepic3, what's your ubuntu version?
[14:35] <raviepic3> mgedmin: 12.04
[14:36] <mgedmin> nusr, you need to quote the spaces
[14:36] <ElGatoSaez> can someone help me please: when i turn on my laptop the screen goes black since the boot logo and i cant see nothing, i try ctrl + alt + t then sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00 but it doesnt works
[14:36] <alreadytriedgoog> i never should have left windows XP, does anyone know how to fix the software center?
[14:37] <ElGatoSaez> whats happening alreadytriedgoog
[14:37] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, you can install software using a terminal (sudo apt-get install packagename) even if software-center is broken
[14:37] <alreadytriedgoog> the "authentication service is not available"
[14:37] <nusr> mgedmin: terminal says target is not a valid directory
[14:37] <raviepic3> mgedmin: sorry its 13.04
[14:38] <mgedmin> raviepic3, that's your problem: 13.04 is no longer supported
[14:38] <nusr> mgedmin: just trying to copy it to /home/qq/Documents/
[14:38] <alreadytriedgoog> but does the cli chrome install command install the latest version?
[14:38] <raviepic3> mgedmin: so what do i do now ?
[14:38] <ElGatoSaez> i will call a technical support
[14:38] <raviepic3> mgedmin: no way to recover from this ?
[14:38] <ElGatoSaez> no one helps here
[14:39] <mgedmin> raviepic3, there's a special upgrade procedure where you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and point to the old-releases mirror
[14:39] <imbezol> mgedmin: i'm thinking his best bet is to download 14.04 and do a release upgrade from command line using the disk
[14:39] <alreadytriedgoog> ElGatoSaez, Linux has a tech support help line?? whats the number?
[14:39] <imbezol> mgedmin: probably fixable at the current level.. but would require some hacking
[14:39] <mgedmin> raviepic3, http://askubuntu.com/a/91821/136
[14:39]  * raviepic3 googles how to upgrade source list to point to old releases
[14:40] <mgedmin> raviepic3, it's fixable easily, just follow that guide
[14:40] <NotNeededAnymore> what, linux has a support line?
[14:40] <raviepic3> mgedmin: thanks for the link  - will read it now
[14:40] <k1l_> !eol | raviepic3
[14:40] <alreadytriedgoog> bout time, may i have the number?
[14:40] <imbezol> mgedmin: that might work too.. networking is probably ok.. he just can't find the right location for the files
[14:40] <mgedmin> nusr, why don't you use Nautilus or Midnight Commander or something?
[14:40] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: nope ubuntu doesnt have a tech support help line
[14:40] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: i will pay for one
[14:41] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: private tech support
[14:41] <NotNeededAnymore> oh. i guess he meant FAQ
[14:41] <nusr> mgemin: i could use the GUI and just move it, but i'm being difficult...want to move it with terminal
[14:41] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: not from cannonical
[14:41] <alreadytriedgoog> ElGatoSaez, darn, for a os like linux they really need a help line. someone should start a charity for linux
[14:41] <NotNeededAnymore> ^^
[14:41] <raviepic3> mgedmin: terminal also gets removed if python is uninstalled ?
[14:42] <imbezol> nusr: you can edit your find line..   find /mountpath -name '*.XXX' -exec mv -v {} /destination \;
[14:42] <raviepic3> k1l_: thank you
[14:42] <nusr> wonder if linux support is friendly...i called microsoft support recently about using legit XP cd key and the guy just paused..and hung up on me
[14:42] <alreadytriedgoog> imma stay restarting the computer, that works for windows 98, maybe it'll work here too.
[14:42] <alreadytriedgoog> try*
[14:43] <NotNeededAnymore> nusr: xp no longer has support
[14:43] <mgedmin> raviepic3, shouldn't be
[14:43] <alreadytriedgoog> nusr, if it wasn't for how terrible microsoft is, i wouldnt be trying so hard to learn linux lol
[14:43] <NotNeededAnymore> yea i just got linux
[14:43] <ElGatoSaez> i restared the computer doesnt work
[14:43] <alreadytriedgoog> brb
[14:43] <raviepic3> mgedmin: is there a way to invoke terminal so that i can paste these commands there without having to go to CLI mode ?
[14:44] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, have you checked if the policykit-1-gnome package is installed on your system?
[14:44] <nusr> yea i dumped windows after windows8...and thank you for ubuntu!!
[14:44] <mgedmin> raviepic3, ctrl-alt-t?  (or is it super-t?)
[14:44] <NotNeededAnymore> hopefully windows 10 will be fine
[14:44] <DX7> raviepic3 can't you just install terminator?
[14:44] <ElGatoSaez> its ctrl alt t
[14:44] <NotNeededAnymore> i tried the preview, it was really windows 8 esque
[14:44] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, well no, cause if it isnt installed now, that means it wasnt installed yesterday, and yesterday the computer was fine.
[14:44] <alreadytriedgoog> brb
[14:45] <mgedmin> nusr, well, cp "/media/.../filename.txt" ~/Documents/ should work if you have a ~/Documents directory
[14:45] <raviepic3> mgedmin: the shortcut aint working :(
[14:45] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, good point!  that might mean it died for some reason; try starting it up
[14:45] <raviepic3> DX7: terminator ? i have an unsupported release
[14:45] <mgedmin> raviepic3, ctrl-alt-f1 is always a terminal of last resort
[14:45] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, is there a simple command to turn it back on? its a pain to restart this pc
[14:45] <pdo_fn14> How to enabling journalctl in Utopic?.
[14:46] <mgedmin> raviepic3, open gedit or something, paste the commands you want to run from the web page, save as myscript.sh, then run 'sh myscript.sh' in the terminal
[14:46] <mgedmin> raviepic3, otherwise it's hard to copy and paste between a browser and the linux console
[14:46] <nusr> mgedmin: not if you run out of memory..when that happens even alt control f1 does not work for me...is there anything that can be done when that happens? for example..if a vm is running and i open just that last browser tab..my system freezes
[14:46] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, that was command #2 in the askubuntu answer I linked
[14:47] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, aww i see, thanks
[14:47] <raviepic3> mgedmin: you are awesome :) will try that one
[14:47] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, failed
[14:48] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what's the error?
[14:48] <somsip> mgedmin: highlight with mouse to copy, middle click to paste
[14:48] <mgedmin> somsip, on /dev/tty1?  good luck :)
[14:48] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, a big one http://pastebin.com/z9FJBZCa
[14:48] <mgedmin> somsip, (well, there's sudo apt-get install gpm, but it won't share your clipboard with your X session)
[14:48] <somsip> mgedmin: ah - didn't see it was a comole. I do now. My bad
[14:48] <somsip> *console
[14:49] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, isn't that fun!  *sigh*
[14:49] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, starting to miss windows cause it just works
[14:50] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, yeah, maybe it's worth to try restarting...
[14:50] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, alrighty brb lol
[14:50] <mgedmin> izolate, I like your question!  unfortunately the answer appears to be "no": https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481251
[14:52] <mgedmin> izolate, also https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172#c10
[14:53] <mgedmin> ok, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1-gnome/+bug/1000679 seems to indicate alreadytriedgoog's 2nd error is not important
[14:53] <nightwolf_> hello
[14:53] <rishabh> Could not apply changes!
[14:53] <rishabh> Fix broken packages first.
[14:53] <rishabh> why this problem is occuring in synaptic manager
[14:54] <rishabh>  Could not apply changes!
[14:54] <rishabh>  Fix broken packages first.
[14:54] <alreadytried> hahaha, restarted computer, it asked for a password. all is well
[14:54] <alreadytried> now onward to netflix!
[14:54] <mgedmin> rishabh, a previous installation failed and now your system is in an inconsistent state
[14:55] <mgedmin> rishabh, in a terminal you'd fix this by running sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get install -f
[14:55] <mgedmin> rishabh, I don't know if there's a more user-friendly gui way to fix this :/
[14:56] <Sz> #ubuntu-on-air
[14:57] <rishabh> mgedmin, after entering this i am getting
[14:57] <rishabh> sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get install -f
[14:57] <alreadytried> the one thing linux has over windows that i love, wobbly windows :D
[14:57] <rishabh> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another proces
[14:57] <nightwolf_> who has tryed slax?
[14:57] <mgedmin> rishabh, close synaptic
[14:58] <raviepic3> mgedmin: when i do dist-upgrade it says 0 of 0 and when i do apt-get update, it says GPG error: following signatures are invalid NODATA1 and NODATA2
[14:58] <mgedmin> rishabh, it locks the dpkg database while it's running for some reason (instead of just locking it while installing stuff)
[14:58] <mgedmin> rishabh, what about do-release-upgrade?
[14:58] <raviepic3> mgedmin: sorry forgot to include that i folloed the command given in the link and replaced the sources with archives repo sourrce
[14:59] <mgedmin> raviepic3, I have to go now, sorry!
[14:59] <raviepic3> mgedmin: thanks for your time and good day
[14:59] <alreadytried> mgedmin, omg i have chrome and netflix now! i dont have to watch it on my stupid phone anymore! mgedmin i love you bro!!!
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> okay now anyone can help me
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> please
[15:00] <sazid> Assalamualaikum and hello
[15:00] <sazid> What type of help?
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> my screen goes no backlight
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> setpci doesnt work
[15:04] <yorwos> ok i dont know if any1 responded scroll max up i canm see but its gone
[15:04] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2 files : "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image". same for headers 2files.  is this normal ? i dont understand what the 1st of these files do , im only used to getting 2nd kind of files
[15:07] <CodeGosu> recomend some simple ubuntu note app that appear immedietly on hotkey key press please?
[15:07] <ElGatoSaez> you can set up that with ubuntu tweak
[15:07] <__unik> hello is there anyone using Enlightenment
[15:09] <nightwolf_> hi yorwos
[15:09] <yorwos> hi
[15:09] <somebody> Hey. I am running into a problem starting an alternate live disc from with 12.04.5 on board. It says "Failed to load COM32 file gfxboot.c32", which I used to get around by typing in 'live', but since it is an alternative installer, this doesn't work. Any ideas?
[15:10] <nightwolf_> had you tryed slax?
[15:10] <yorwos> me? what is that ?
[15:11] <losted> hello all, I tried creating the locale “fr_FR” with the command “sudo /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack fr_FR” but it created “fr_FR.utf8” … how can I create only “fr_FR” please? thanks
[15:11] <yorwos> im using ubuntu studio
[15:11] <nightwolf_> it is a os that you can us on a usb
[15:12] <yorwos> im not interested ty
[15:13] <somebody> Is there a particular channel devoted to the alt.installer that I can ask around?
[15:14] <minamohsen> hello
[15:14] <nightwolf_> I use ubuntu to but I trys other os to
[15:14] <minamohsen> anyone with experience on cron jobs through files not commands ?
[15:14] <yorwos> ?
[15:14] <yorwos> but its not what i asked
[15:15] <yorwos> i asked whats the difference between "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image"
[15:16] <k1l_> somebody: the alternate installer was dropped
[15:16] <nightwolf_> its just bigger then a 32 bit
[15:17] <k1l_> yorwos: low-latency is used for special cases. like soundproducing and such
[15:17] <somebody> k1l_: I know, but I need it to get a FDE using the latest system version on which it's not broken, which appears to be 12.04.5, where it is available only from the alt. installer.
[15:17] <yorwos> yes whats that SMP thingy ?
[15:17] <yorwos> shouold i only install the low latency ?
[15:17] <k1l_> yorwos: what?
[15:17] <somebody> Any ideas to get around the issue? I am simply trying to get a FDE installation that wouldn't crash on me.
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: just install the regular kernel image. it will sort it out for you
[15:18] <yorwos> is it trying to install 2 kernels on my system ?
[15:18] <yorwos> im using this for sound production
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: not if you dont select 2
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: ......
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: so you will need the lowlatency one.
[15:19] <yorwos> thanx
[15:19] <nightwolf_> the 32bit will work on a 64bit
[15:19] <yorwos> how can i ignore the other kernel on updates ?
[15:20] <k1l_> nightwolf_: dont irritate the user here. there is no reason to not run 64bit kernels on 64bit hardware for the regular user
[15:20] <k1l_> yorwos: install the low-latency meta package. it will install the new ones if there are low latency ones
[15:20] <xscesn05>  /join #ISAchannel
[15:21] <nightwolf_> kil ??
[15:22] <cristian_c> Hello
[15:22] <Adephit> hello i need how ~/.vnc/xstartup  should look like to initiate lxde
[15:22] <Adephit> thanks
[15:22] <cristian_c> I've got a multimedia keyboard
[15:23] <cristian_c> either /lib/udev/findkeyboards and sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX commands, pressing multimedia keys does nothing
[15:23] <cristian_c> same situation with sudo evtest
[15:23] <cannon> hi all... someone know a linux native software to view photometrical IES diagram??
[15:23] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:25] <beeez> Hello, I need your help: I have a USB-loudspeaker and it didn't work (no sound). So I have edited alsa-base.conf (index for usb-audio is "0" now) and now it is working. But I have problem: There are three keys/buttons on the the usb-loudspeaker. Volume up, volume down and mute. This don't work. Can someone help me?
[15:25] <White_Cat> as suggested here I installed network-manager
[15:26] <White_Cat> well its still installing
[15:26] <nightwolf_> what cumputer?
[15:26] <White_Cat> I imagine there are easy(er) waysto define a static ip with it?
[15:26] <White_Cat> this is on an ubuntu server
[15:26] <nightwolf_> beez what cumputer?
[15:26] <White_Cat> can it pick current dns settings, subnet masks etc just leaving me the input for the ethernet?
[15:27] <YamDX-7> White_Cat you could edit /etc/network/interfaces
[15:28] <White_Cat> YamakasY sure but I dont want to do this manually preferably
[15:28] <nightwolf_> beeez what cumputer??
[15:28] <White_Cat> I am more interested in learning easier methods than resolving a problem like this :)
[15:28] <beeez> nightwolf_: I use Lubuntu
[15:28] <yorwos> um , besides those 4 files theres another file "complete low latency kernel"
[15:29] <nightwolf_> laptop or desktop?
[15:31] <BlitzHere> http://i.imgur.com/zohTag7.png?1
[15:31] <beeez> nightwolf_: Desktop
[15:31] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help?
[15:32] <BlitzHere> Fresh install
[15:32] <BlitzHere> Ubuntu 14.10
[15:32] <YamakasY> White_Cat: what ?
[15:33] <BlitzHere> Single boot, uses full disk with swap on flash drive - oh, and I chose btrfs as the FS for the heck of it. Want to know what's causing this
[15:33] <BlitzHere> And, yes, I can decrypt just fine from the live distro
[15:34] <nightwolf_> I ask some usb driver don't work on some os
[15:34] <raviepic3> i followed the directions in this link sorry forgot to include that i folloed the command given in the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release/91821#91821...... when i do dist-upgrade it says 0 of 0 and when i do apt-get update, it says GPG error: following signatures are invalid NODATA1 and NODATA2
[15:34] <raviepic3> kindly help on how to proceed
[15:34] <k1l_> White_Cat: why dont you put your static ip stuff intoi the /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:35] <YamDX-7> thats what i suggested
[15:35] <k1l_> raviepic3: run "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to a new ubuntu version
[15:36] <nightwolf_> try ubuntu it good for desktop and laptops beeez
[15:36] <raviepic3> k1l_: i am on datacard - how much size compared to the old one do you think the new version will cost me ? 700 MB ?
[15:37] <beeez> nightwolf_: But the keys on the loudspeaker had worked already - so it should be possible with Lubuntu
[15:37] <k1l_> raviepic3: you mean the update to a new release?
[15:38] <nightwolf_> maybe you need a update
[15:38] <k1l_> raviepic3: you have no choice of staying on the old release. that is not getting any security or bug updates. so you are vulnerable to shellstorm and stuff.
[15:38] <alreadytried> wth is a shellstorm?
[15:38] <alreadytried> sounds bad
[15:39] <anonymous_> JOB WANTED AS HACKER DO YOU QUALIFY?
[15:39] <k1l_> ah wait. it was renamed to shellshock :)
[15:39] <anonymous_> JOB WANTED AS HACKER DO YOU QUALIFY?
[15:39] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, how do I get the cursor to never blink in terminal in 12.04 LTS?
[15:39]  * genii feeds k1l_ more cookies and coffee
[15:39] <PaRaD0xxR> I don't want it to ever blink
[15:39]  * k1l_ thanks
[15:40] <PaRaD0xxR> related question is it possible to change the cursor color?
[15:40] <raviepic3> k1l_: right now i want to get out of this with my datacard internet... and then i can connect to my friends broaband internet and upgrade - is possible to do that way ?
[15:41] <k1l_> raviepic3: so what do you want to do?
[15:41] <ShishKabab> free -m is telling me I have 68mb of 2gb left, while when I add up the memory of all my processes, it comes down to 1386 mb. What's eating my memory?
[15:41] <k1l_> ShishKabab: linuxatemyram.com explains the display of free -m
[15:42] <k1l_> ShishKabab: most users read the first line which adds buffers and cache.
[15:42] <raviepic3> k1l_: when i do-upgrade it says no vali opengpg data found.. authentication of upgrade failed.. !
[15:43] <raviepic3> k1l_: i want to get my gnome-desktop back first.. then will do the upgrade on broadband internet later
[15:43] <k1l_> raviepic3: what is the issue there?
[15:45] <PaRaD0xxR> figured it out myself, thanks!
[15:45] <raviepic3> k1l_: sources outdated due to my unsupported release anymore.. even after manually installing python
[15:45] <raviepic3> k1l_: when i do-upgrade it says no vali opengpg data found.. authentication of upgrade failed.. !
[15:46] <ShishKabab> k1l_: Haha, mystery solved. Doesn't explain why I've been low on memory lately though. The thing has been swapping like crazy and it's making work very frustrating... Anyway, thank you!
[15:47] <rishabh> everytime i start my ubuntu operating system i get this error
[15:47] <rishabh> sorry,ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
 raviepic3: and why should that break the gnome desktop?
[15:47] <rishabh> what's wrong with this ?? please someone tell
[15:48] <k1l> rishabh: click on the details button or see the logs what happend.
[15:48] <raviepic3> k1l_: gnome-desktop got broken because i uninstalled python 2.7 in an effort to install python 3 to learn django
[15:49] <k1l> raviepic3: oh, well. since ubuntu based quite a lot of python there might be a lot more broken then.
[15:49] <rishabh> k1l: executable path is showing /usr/sbin/pptp
[15:49] <rishabh> and problemtype is crash
[15:50] <Sheepolution> Ben64: Hey, I had the problem with the login manager from a few hours ago.
[15:50] <rishabh> k1l: title is pptp crashed with sigsegv
[15:50] <k1l> rishabh: that seems to be some depredacted vpn stuff
[15:50] <raviepic3> k1l: no way to recover ?
[15:50] <Sheepolution> Ben64: I came to tell you that it's fixed. Thanks for the help!
[15:50] <rishabh> k1l: vpn stuff
[15:51] <rishabh> so what should i do?
[15:51] <k1l> raviepic3: since this is a old ubuntu i personally would make a backup and make a clean new install with a 14.04 lts
[15:51] <k1l> rishabh: if you dont experience any issue , dont mind
[15:51] <raviepic3> k1l: ok,... on it
[15:51] <raviepic3> thank you
[15:52] <rishabh> okk..thanks K1l
[15:54] <JabaTheHut> people, does the latest ubuntu work with the latest Mac OS?
[15:55] <raviepic3> k1l: whats the safest way to backup where i can see progress and exceptions ?
[15:55] <raviepic3> rsync ?
[16:00] <martin1969> hello. i'm trying to show someone how to install add on in firefox.  how do i capture the screen of the drop down menu when i click on the menu icon in firefox? if i press screen capture icon, it captures the screen without the drop down menu.
[16:00] <martin1969> screen capture button, rather.
[16:01] <Axeman> just installed ubuntu server - do i need to install SSH using apt-get? or should it alrady be there?
[16:01] <Jake> Hey there, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and when I type the poundsign over ssh onto my weechat install, instead of a pound sign showing, two question marks are shown
[16:01] <Fuchs> martin1969: either use scrot on a command line with a delay, or ksnapshot with a delay
[16:01] <Fuchs> martin1969: run that, open the menu, wait. Done.
[16:01] <Jake> Axeman: I believe ssh is installed by default
[16:02] <martin1969> fuchs, thanks. i'll try that now.
[16:02] <Axeman> that's what i thought Jake but this tells me to isntall it
[16:02] <Axeman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[16:02] <Jake> Axeman: see if you can ssh on port 22 of the machine, if not you need to install it :)
[16:04] <Axeman> Jake, that's sorta what i tried. got error, googled. said install. really? install? let me ask IRC, for sho ;-)
[16:04] <martin1969> fuchs, now that i installed scrot, how do i open it in the terminal?
[16:05] <YamDX-7> scrot -d 10 (10 seconds delay)
[16:05] <YamDX-7> scrot -h should give you some advise
[16:05] <martin1969> yamdx, thanks.
[16:05] <YamDX-7> np
[16:06] <YamDX-7> the image will be in you home directory
[16:07] <martin1969> yamdx, you rock.
[16:08] <Smrtz|Work> Hey!  I'm using ubuntu as the root OS for my xen server, can someone help me figure out how to partition the drives with LVM for guest OS' please?
[16:08] <YamDX-7> I have my bright moments @ martin1969 ;)
[16:08] <Smrtz|Work> I don't have an X environment, so I think the tool I need to use parted?
[16:09] <OerHeks> !lvm
[16:09] <alreadytried> fake!
[16:10] <Adephit> how the ~/.vnc/xstartup should look like? startlubuntu & ---> or something like this?
[16:13] <martin1969> does anyone use gps like tomtom? i'm looking for poi (point of interest) editor. anyone have experience with it?
[16:16] <spaztik> Anyone know how to get the dropbox menu in the filemanager context menu? (i.e, https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/167) The app didn't seem to make the changes
[16:16] <OerHeks> martin1969,  haven't found one ( for months) all i know is an online editor http://garmin.gps-data-team.com/poi_manager.php
[16:16] <OerHeks> not sure it handles tomtom files also ..
[16:18] <martin1969> oerheks, thanks for the info. i think this is a class of  app that we should have in the arsensal.
[16:20] <OerHeks> martin1969, true
[16:20] <Rarrikins> How do I get do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 14.10 from 14.04? It just says "No new release found".
[16:21] <martin1969> just out of curiosity. is there an emulation software like Parellel for Mac, that enables ubuntu user to install and run windows app without having to install the entire OS?
[16:21] <somsip> !wine | martin1969
[16:21] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[16:21] <Rarrikins> martin1969: There's also VirtualBox if you have an install CD with the key.
[16:22] <YamDX-7> Rarrikins sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:22] <YamDX-7> should do the trick
[16:22] <martin1969> Rarrikins, i take it it's a paid application. how does it fare compare to other emulation software?
[16:23] <vishnu> hello
[16:23] <somsip> martin1969: no - free
[16:23] <YamDX-7> hello vishnu
[16:23] <martin1969> cool.
[16:23] <Rarrikins> martin1969: I haven't really used other software, so I'm unsure, but it is free (though the Windows you'd install into it wouldn't be).
[16:23] <martin1969> ahh, so you do have to install the OS.
[16:24] <trism> Rarrikins: you probably need to enable normal release upgrades, lts defaults to only upgrade to the next lts, you can switch it in software-properties-gtk or /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:24] <kamui_Shirou> bye
[16:24] <somsip> martin1969: wine is a compatibility layer. VirtualBox runs a virtual PC you can run under the ubuntu host, and put any OS on the virtual PC
[16:24] <martin1969> there is a software on the mac side that you can run windows app without having to install the entire os.
[16:25] <alreadytried> anyone else sick of all this fake maple syrup here in america? Guess what the #1 ingredient in maple syrup should be? Not corn syrup!!! Rage!!
[16:25] <OerHeks> !ot | alreadytried
[16:25] <csst0111> say I run something like : find . -iname foo* and I get a bunch of results like foo1, foo2 , foo3, etc - how can I use the n-th result in my next command ? Like vim nth-previous. Is it possible ?
[16:27] <alreadytried> OerHeks lets try being more organic
[16:27] <somsip> csst0111: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59700/bash-capture-use-last-or-nth-line-in-stdout
[16:27] <EriC^^> csst0111: what are you trying to achieve ultimately?
[16:28] <martin1969> thanks for the help ppl. have a nice day.
[16:28] <SergioAD> Hello there
[16:28] <alreadytried> hi Sergio
[16:28] <SergioAD> I have an important question
[16:28] <Axeman> sudo wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg|apt-key add -
[16:28] <Axeman> gives me an error
[16:28] <SergioAD> how can I remove the unity's replacement menus to gmenu?
[16:28] <Axeman> Cannot write to â-â (Success).
[16:28] <Axeman> what am i doing wrong?
[16:28] <Axeman> i literally copy/pasted that from openvpn.net's guide
[16:29] <frib> i have this issue where vlc hangs for around 15 seconds whenever i try to close it or a video ends.  what can I do?
[16:29] <csst0111> EriC^^: avoid writing the whole path to open the file I want
[16:29] <SergioAD> in other words how can I remove the multiple classic style menus from Ubuntu and only use the one item menubar of Gnome apps (gmenu)
[16:29] <Pici> Axeman: sudo will not pass IO redirection operators.  do:  wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
[16:29] <glcheetham> Axeman, I don't think that's the right command, maybe you missed some when you ctrl c ctrl v'd
[16:30] <SergioAD> I want install Ubuntu gnome but I fear it because the Gnome apps with not gmenu enabled shows a classic styled menubar over the CSDs
[16:30] <Axeman> thanks pici, will try
[16:30] <Axeman> glcheetham, that's what i figured the - hanging out at the end.
[16:30] <Axeman> but that's what they have ou tthere.
[16:30] <SergioAD> somebody know what I can do?
[16:30] <Axeman> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenvpnSoftwareRepos
[16:31] <Pici> Axeman: The - at the end means to take the info from stdin
[16:31] <glcheetham> Axeman, what are you actually trying to do?
[16:31] <Axeman> well Pici that worked
[16:31] <Axeman> glcheetham, you think i have a clue? lol
[16:32] <glcheetham> Axeman , if you're trying to connect to an openVPN vpn there is a much easier way
[16:32] <Axeman> i'm tyring to create an openvpn server
[16:32] <Axeman> that i can connect to
[16:32] <Axeman> so i can get my pr0ns where ever i am in the world
[16:32] <Guest56798> Axeman: why not use an SFTP server?
[16:33] <Guest56798> Axeman: you dont need a VPN then, just port forward 22/TCP to your server
[16:33] <Axeman> lol not just pr0ns Guest56798 i'm being facetious
[16:33] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys I recently updated my ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10
[16:33] <glcheetham> Axeman, You should probably just get the package from the ubuntu repos
[16:33] <dhanasekaran> after my upgrade mouse click not working any idea how tot fix thus
[16:34] <glcheetham> Axeman, Also, follow a tutorial from the ubuntu wiki
[16:34] <Guest56798> Axeman: if you install squid you can make an SSH tunnel which will then use the proxy and give you web access if you set the browser proxy to the tunnel port on the client
[16:35] <dhanasekaran> keyboard and mouse not responding after distribution upgrade please guide me
[16:35] <glcheetham> dhanasekaran, I always do fresh installs when upgrading, just to be sure problems don't happen
[16:36] <Axeman> glcheetham, i only see the bridged version - need dig to find routed
[16:36] <glcheetham> dhanasekaran, also, I think there was a guy on the ubuntu forums today asking the same question, perhaps you could find that thread?
[16:36] <dhanasekaran> glcheetham: I will check now
[16:37] <Axeman> Guest56798, i need access on mobiles too. i know i need a vpn - just not used to manually setting up ubuntu. i've used the openvpn access server virtual appliance. but can't afford to pay licensing so that my tablets and laptop and phone (5 deviceS) can connect
[16:39] <acerspyro> Using 14.10, some windows when maximized do this: http://i.imgur.com/yFcmDtG.png
[16:39] <acerspyro> I've seen it happen with Chromium and Blender so far
[16:39] <acerspyro> Look on the edge of the app bar.
[16:40] <acerspyro> The window's display is kinda skewed to the right. Clicking is off a bit on these windows aswell
[16:45] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> \\0
[16:45] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> 0//
[16:45] <Rarrikins> trism: software-properties-gtk worked.  I figure this guy must come from another Distro channel who thinks Ubuntu is for babies or something.
[16:50] <Adephit> how i start the lubuntu with vnc? startlubuntu & -->>> doesn't work, i get a gray screen
[16:50] <alreadytried> for babies? learning ubuntu is the hardest thing i ever had to do!
[16:51] <rivarun> reisio: i could do that. except ubuntu systematically does this. is there some political reason that prevents them from shipping the same binaries that other distributions ship? i had same trouble with `realpath`
[16:51] <acerspyro> alreadytried: You're from Windows, they are not.
[16:51] <reisio> rivarun: distros differ, that is what makes them separate
[16:51] <k1l> acerspyro: alreadytried dont mind the trolls. its not worth it :)
[16:51] <acerspyro> k
[16:51] <acerspyro> Can I re-ask my question?
[16:52] <alreadytried> yeah im from windows :(   do people think people from windows are noobs? I'm new to linux and im really excited :D
[16:52] <reisio> rivarun: you probably have coreutils' realpath, with a different name
[16:52] <rivarun> reisio: i just expect standard-ish flags on standard utilities to be there. i'm not complaining, ubuntu can do what it pleases. i'm asking why it's like that
[16:52] <reisio> rivarun: mmm, I don't know the history
[16:52] <Guest56798> alreadytried: if you are new to Linux then thats all it is.  You could have a search on the mailing lists or contact the maintainer to see if there have been political objections to particular sources. Most of the time there is a good reason
[16:53] <reisio> rivarun: my guess would be that debian's which predates the one Gentoo uses at this time, whether it's inferior or not
[16:53] <acerspyro> k1l: Sometimes what you
[16:53] <alreadytried> ahh ok. yeah i never tried linux before ubuntu. but i deleted my windows install by accident so ubuntu is all i have now :D
[16:53] <mcphail> rivarun: sometimes they simply haven't got round to updating the package
[16:53] <Guest56798> Adephit: what are you going to be doing on the VNC sessin? There may be a better way to do what you need
[16:53] <reisio> rivarun: and before that it may have been in csh
[16:54] <Guest56798> alreadytried: feet first huh :)
[16:54] <reisio> rivarun: what you should really learn is that all these fancy parameters are unreliable
[16:54] <reisio> which does one job, and does it well
[16:54] <alreadytried> haha yeah
[16:54] <reisio> BSD guys shudder at, for example, all the parameters that 'tar' has
[16:54] <reisio> and how it can utilize gzip and xz
[16:54] <reisio> instead of just using another pipe
[16:54] <reisio> that is true reliability
[16:54] <reisio> as tar params actually have changed lots over time
[16:54] <reisio> (GNU tar)
[16:55] <Adephit> i can't do any other way Guest56798. whay i need to change here?: http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  thanks
[16:55] <acerspyro_> crashed
[16:55] <rivarun> reisio: so you've tested that version of which and it's unreliable?
[16:55] <acerspyro_> The network architecture here is terrible, I'm sure they run it on Pentium 4 machines running XP
[16:55] <reisio> rivarun: no I'm saying params in general are
[16:56] <reisio> rivarun: Unix apps are meant to do one thing, not a million
[16:56] <acerspyro_> I'll ask for the third time
[16:56] <rivarun> reisio: it's still one thing. just with more customization
[16:56] <reisio> what you should rely on, and no doubt can rely on _any_ implementation of 'which' to do is print a path
[16:56] <reisio> and that is all, that was all there ever was to rely on
[16:56] <reisio> rivarun: anyways, if you want to use Gentoo use it :)
[16:56] <reisio> I do :p
[16:57] <acerspyro_> http://i.imgur.com/yFcmDtG.png Note the window appearing as skewed to the right a bit, I an using 14.10 and this problem has shown up on Chromium and blender so far. Anyone knows what it is?
[16:57] <zy3pD> rcconf shows me atieventsd does anyone know what it do?
[16:58] <reisio> but Gentoo is probably one of the least conformity concerned distros there are, so it's not its preference for standardness that produces the executables you apparently prefer
[16:58] <sacarlson> acerspyro I really can't see any skew in the image so it must be in your monitor
[16:58] <reisio> not that I'd consider Debian using 'realpath' from something other than GNU coreutils to be particularly non-NIH :p
[16:58] <bleechAcer> God damn it, that network.
[16:58] <bleechAcer> <- acerspyro
[16:58] <bleechAcer> Did anyone answer my question yet?
[16:58] <reisio> but there may well be historical reasons for it, Debian is actually responsible for a lot of great apps we have now
[16:59] <reisio> bleechAcer: yes, I'm answering it now, I don't know if anyone did
[16:59] <bleechAcer> reisio: I didn't see it
[16:59] <Sc0tty-> if I run a make install but I want to run the make again, do I need to remove all the installed files or will it write over the existing ones?
[16:59] <bleechAcer> I timed out right after I asked
[16:59] <bleechAcer> Webchat can't keep a connection open
[16:59] <alreadytried> is fedora, linux?
[16:59] <reisio> alreadytried: GNU/Linux, yes
[17:00] <alreadytried> ahh. one day i should learn the history of linux :D
[17:00] <reisio> although once upon a time it was merely a set of additional software for Red Hat, much as the BSDs were
[17:00] <reisio> (for Unix)
[17:00] <reisio> nowadays it's the testing/unstable branch of RHEL(/CentOS/etc.)
[17:00] <sacarlson> Sc0tty-: normaly if you make with out clean then it will only compile source that has changed
[17:00] <alreadytried> only thing i know is that linux was made in 1991 by a guy named linus. right?
[17:00] <bleechAcer> alreadytried: Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, SuSE, Debian, Gentoo, Knoppix, LFS...
[17:01] <bleechAcer> No
[17:01] <bleechAcer> Linux is a kernel
[17:01] <alreadytried> hey isnt knoppix the one with the penquin?
[17:01] <bleechAcer> alreadytried: Yup
[17:01] <reisio> alreadytried: heh
[17:01] <reisio> LFS not exactly a distro
[17:01] <k1l> alreadytried: i bet the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic will talk to you about general linux stuff. we try to keep this channel for actual ubuntu support.
[17:02] <bleechAcer> k1l: It's all you do, send users to that channel :P
[17:02] <bleechAcer> reisio: You were saying you were about to answer my question?
[17:02] <alreadytried> yeah good thinking, i type /join #ubuntu-offtopic right?
[17:03] <FilthyMacNasty> yuppers that will do it alreadytried
[17:03] <alreadytried> ok thank you very much!
[17:04] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[17:04] <bleechAcer> Also, fullscreen applications have issues with alt+tab
[17:04] <bleechAcer> Sometimes, they end up crashing, but they will always cover up the entire screen even if another app is active
[17:05] <teward> anyone know if there's a list of supported architectures for any given release lying around anywhere?
[17:05] <bleechAcer> teward: What do you have?
[17:06] <afrokarlsson> ja mis sa nüüd siis teed tahad midagi oma peaga ka mõelda veel?
[17:06] <bleechAcer> afrokarlsson: pick the channel for your language
[17:06] <teward> bleechAcer: i'm on amd64, that's not why i need the list ;)
[17:06] <bleechAcer> teward: of
[17:06] <bleechAcer> oh*
[17:07] <bleechAcer> Well, I think it does i386, AMD64, PPC32, PPC64, ARM
[17:07] <mcphail> bleechAcer: ARM isn't supported on all releases
[17:07] <bleechAcer> indeed
[17:08] <Guest56798> alreadytried: the mascot of GNU Linux is Tux, a penguin
[17:08] <bleechAcer> could also check on Wikipedia
[17:09] <reisio> Guest6242: well, the mascot of Linux... not GNU/Linux (or GNU)
[17:09] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[17:09] <reisio> teward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions#Instruction_set_architecture_support
[17:09] <bleechAcer> Adephit: Not much support right now, it seems
[17:09] <reisio> teward: simpler to use Debian for more exotic hardware
[17:10] <FilthyMacNasty> Adephit: may I PM you about the vnc thing?
[17:10] <Adephit> yes, thanks
[17:11] <Adephit> FilthyMascNasty
[17:12] <Sc0tty-> how do I change my keyboard layout from US to EU in 14.04?
[17:14] <sacarlson> Adephit: did you try vino-server  i thought that comes preinstalled.  I used to start it from remote with ssh back in the day
[17:14] <Adephit> oh
[17:14] <Adephit> i didn't
[17:15] <sacarlson> Adephit: I've never tried your vnc4server
[17:15] <Adephit> but i need to know how to start the lubuntu with vnc
[17:15] <FilthyMacNasty> answer your pm
[17:15] <Adephit>  ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy
[17:16] <sacarlson> Adephit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12206/how-do-i-start-the-vnc-server
[17:19] <givello> hey there
[17:21] <alexgl> what's the easiest order of installation for setting up dual boot. install win 7 > move partitions > create partitions for ubuntu > install ubuntu?
[17:22] <glcheetham> alexgl, yes installing windows first is definately easiest, but it's not impossible to go the other way
[17:22] <givello> Is EriC^^ or Bashing-om around?
[17:22] <it_> hi
[17:22] <it_> anyone online?
[17:23] <alexgl> glcheetham: i did it pretty much backwards. is the mbr a pain in the rear to move. or where would it even be on the efi partition? and if so can i write it to the windows one?
[17:23] <tortib> Hello everyone.  I'm having a strange problem with Java & SSL not connecting to authserver.mojang.com ; I'm able to run curl https://authserver.mojang.com just fine and receive the JSON output.  However, when using java to make a connection with SSL it doesn't work at all.  Anyone who connects to my minecraft server receives an error stating the authservers are down (which they're not).  You can find out more information about it here -> https://bugs.mojan
[17:23] <tortib> g.com/browse/MC-71840 <-
[17:23] <tortib> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-71840
[17:23] <tortib> I have tried talking to the minecraft support people and they're stumped so I figured I would try here with some people more familiar with linux.
[17:23] <sacarlson> alexgl: ya windows install first and setup at least one partition in windows that you plan to use to install ubuntu in.  maybe 2 if you want to also have swap  and 3 if you want a separate /home
[17:24] <alexgl> sacarlson: what happens to the mbr once ubuntu is installed, does grub move it?
[17:24] <glcheetham> alexgl, http://askubuntu.com/questions/92874/how-do-i-install-windows-7-alongside-a-pre-existing-ubuntu-installation
[17:26] <sacarlson> alexgl: ubuntu will sence that windows is there and ask if you want to keep it.  just say yes save it.  all the rest is auto taken care of
[17:26] <yeticry> the xfce project is stopped?
[17:26] <alexgl> sacarlson glcheetham : what happened is i have brand new dells and they have 3 partitions initially, one for 40megs of something from dell, one for a few gigs recovery and one for main install win7. I nuked it all and started with ubuntu and then put on windows 7 but it goes straight to windows now. my question is if i can customize grub to have dual boot with win7 auto selected
[17:27] <yeticry> it's components is very old.
[17:27] <sacarlson> alexgl: only think you might want to change after install is what boots by default as ubuntu will defualt to boot without any action
[17:27] <bleez> Habe a problem with my USB speaker. There are three buttons on it (volume down, mute, volume up). Unfortunately, they don't work - I don't know why. :/
[17:28] <alexgl> sacarlson: i'll try that. I know it's resolvable, I just want to have a pretty clean start for making an image of the entire drive to clone it on rest of my machines.
[17:29] <zerobaud> Could anybody be so kind to the line in their .xinitrc that starts their WM?. like for example
[17:29] <zerobaud> exec ck-launch-session....
[17:29] <zerobaud> and also the line that starts their polkit agent....
[17:29] <reisio> zerobaud: what for
[17:29] <Guest56798> yeticry: xfce is alive and well, what gave you that idea?
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> zerobaud: For what DE?
[17:30] <zerobaud> the ubuntu DE,
[17:30] <reisio> zerobaud: the Ubuntu DE uses a DM to launch itself
[17:30] <reisio> not a ~/.xinitrc
[17:30] <zerobaud> reisio, ah I am actually not here for ubuntu specific help. I just needed a .xinitrc example
[17:30] <reisio> zerobaud: what for
[17:31] <zerobaud> reisio I am running gentoo and want fine grained access control for my libvirtd VM's. The problem is polkits agent does not start when it should
[17:31] <zerobaud> I can start it manually like this "/usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1" and everything works
[17:32] <zerobaud> but when I put that line in my .xinitrc before I launch my wm. It says "Unable to determine session"
[17:33] <reisio> zerobaud: some reason you aren't talking to #gentoo? :p
[17:33] <zerobaud> resio, nobody who knows it is currently paying attention to irc...
[17:34] <reisio> uhuh
[17:34] <reisio> zerobaud: what do you have now?
[17:34] <zerobaud> reisio a polkit agent that only works after I manually start it after my WM and X has started
[17:35] <reisio> zerobaud: what do you have in ~/.xinitrc
[17:35] <tortib> can anyone help me with my problem? :(
[17:35] <zerobaud> reisio: LINE1"/usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &" LINE2"exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session i3"
[17:36] <reisio> zerobaud: I doubt you'd want to explicitly call it, at any rate
[17:36] <reisio> zerobaud: there are some lighter polkit agents, too
[17:37] <zerobaud> reisio I would love that, the gnome one isnt really needed
[17:37] <zerobaud> I loved the TUI based one but it wont launch when GUI's need it
[17:37] <reisio> zerobaud: lxpolkit maybe
[17:38] <zerobaud> cool, will try to install that and purge the gnome one. mayby it will solve my problem aswell. If not I will open a formal ticket
[17:38]  * reisio shrugs
[17:38] <zerobaud> thanks for youre time!
[17:39] <Baako> hi guys i have install kubuntu on VMWare player but the screen size is really small
[17:39] <Baako> how can i make it fit the whole screen?
[17:40] <jhutchins_wk> Baako: Do you have the vmware tools installed?
[17:41] <OerHeks> Baako, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player for VMware/Tools
[17:41] <Baako> jhutchins_wk i just have VMWARE PLAYER
[17:41] <Baako> install
[17:42] <EriC^^> givello: hello
[17:43] <givello> EriC^^: not sure if you remember me from yesterday night
[17:44] <EriC^^> givello: i do
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: I foumd a way to get some information out of the system while it boots
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: although not in standard mode
[17:44] <EriC^^> cool, how?
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: when using recovery mode, the system freezes on the recovery menu
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: but modifications to the boot line then F10 actually have an effect
[17:45] <EriC^^> i see
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: so in recovery mode I can see the text, nosplash, verbose mode
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: let me go back to the computer and see what error it printed
[17:45] <EriC^^> ok
[17:47] <givello> EriC^^: so, by deleting recovery from the boot line and adding nosplash text --verbose, I get those two errors
[17:48] <Mike9863> Yesterday my touchpad randomly stopped working. I've since restarted my laptop and it still isn't working. Can anyone help?
[17:48] <WJB> ?
[17:48] <givello> EriC^^: first, something about FAT and the fact that it can't find the iso8859-1 charset
[17:48] <Scorpion3de> hi, can anyone help to setup ssl on tomcat7? i have some probs and didnt find a reason
[17:48] <WJB> How do i tell what an actual process is doing the output that i find in an ps -ef | grep query?
[17:48] <givello> which explains the unresponsiveness in the recovery menu
[17:48] <pzkpfw> d54HGdhiSA49FHJ28z
[17:48] <givello> EriC^^: and the second, more worrying, is about not finding the efi partition
[17:49] <EriC^^> givello: ok
[17:49] <givello> EriC^^: correction, it says error while mounting /boot/efi
[17:50] <givello> EriC^^: and the first error says FAT-FS: IO charset iso 8859-1 not found
[17:50] <EriC^^> ok
[17:50] <EriC^^> are you in the live usb right now?
[17:50] <givello> EriC^^: no, I'm actually using another computer
[17:50] <EriC^^> ok, boot into the live usb
[17:51] <EriC^^> mount the ubuntu installation
[17:51] <givello> and unfortunately I won't get a hang of the usb drive just now, cause it isn't mine and the owner is away right now...
[17:51] <EriC^^> and paste bin sudo parted -l , as well as /etc/fstab
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: not sure we can do anything whatsoever without it
[17:51] <EriC^^> oh
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: I already have that info tho
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: from yesterday
[17:51] <EriC^^> cool
[17:52] <givello> EriC^^: let me look up the irc logs
[17:53] <potatoes_> is crontab the only way I can schedule a process to run at a certain time?
[17:53] <Kara__> Hey all. Can anyone please explain to me what the term "architecturally-independent" means?
[17:53] <potatoes_> are there any other process schedulers
[17:53] <EriC^^> potatoes_: why would you want other process schedulers ?
[17:53] <givello> EriC^^: parted -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/8724376/
[17:53] <potatoes_> I want to have a program schedule it self to run off certain criteria
[17:54] <EriC^^> Kara__: it means it doesn't depend on whether it is 32bit or 64bit etc.
[17:54] <EriC^^> potatoes_: such as?
[17:54] <givello> EriC^^: don't have the fstab tho
[17:54] <EriC^^> givello: ok, /etc/fstab
[17:54] <EriC^^> oh
[17:54] <givello> can I get it from grub?
[17:54] <EriC^^> yes you could
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> potatoes_: That's what cron does, why not use it.
[17:55] <Kara__> EriC^^: I know that, but why shouldn't they be transferred or shared across different operating systems or different versions of the same operating system?
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: how :D
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: usb key incoming, yay
[17:55] <EriC^^> ok cool :D
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: will boot in liveusb
[17:56] <Mike9863> My touchpad isn't working on my user account. It works when I'm at the lightDM login screen and in a guest session. Can anyone help me fix this?
[17:56] <potatoes_> jhutchins: i supposeee
[17:56] <EriC^^> Kara__: architecturally independent means that they can be used on various architectures
[17:57] <EriC^^> Kara__: what's the whole context?
[17:57] <Adephit> anyone can help me using a server to access the lubuntu desktom with ssh. thanks
[17:57] <EriC^^> this software is architecturally independent? or ?
[17:58] <Kara__> EriC^^: Nothing much, just browsing through the FHS in details when someone brought up this term, has gotten me pondering then :)
[17:58] <Kara__> EriC^^: Something about files in /usr/share being "architecturally-independent"
[18:00] <Axeman> in ubuntu, is there a way to be sudo for a session?
[18:00] <givello> EriC^^: 8734844
[18:00] <Axeman> so i don't have to keep entering sudo for everything ?
[18:00] <Mike9863> Axeman: Type su in terminal
[18:00] <Axeman> authentication failure
[18:00] <Axeman> :'(
[18:00] <dtcrshr> Axeman: sudo su, su -, su root
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: or maybe not
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: let me re-read that haha
[18:01] <dtcrshr> either one will grant you this acess
[18:01] <bubbasaures> telling people how to run root here randomly is not supported
[18:01] <genii> Axeman: sudo -i
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: there
[18:01] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735844/
[18:02] <EriC^^> givello: ok
[18:02] <EriC^^> givello: also, sudo blkid
[18:03] <givello> EriC^^: right away
[18:04] <givello> EriC^^: 8735896
[18:04] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735896
[18:04] <lelo> hey gys... ive updated to 14.10 on my lenovo y50 4k and now it gives me a black screen when I log into the system... I bet this has to do with the dual card situation this laptop have going on
[18:04] <lelo> how can I fix this?
[18:05] <reisio> lelo: /msg ubottu nomodeset
[18:05] <Axeman> urgh!!~!~
[18:05] <Axeman> cp -r /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/* /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/
[18:05] <Xubook> I have a quick question if anyone can help... How can I move my bootable usb ubuntu to my harddrive?  Is this possible?
[18:05] <Axeman> cp: cannot stat â/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/*â: No such file or directory
[18:05] <reisio> Axeman: tab completion is your friend
[18:05] <Axeman> i'm not afraid of a command line - but this is not working so good.
[18:05] <reisio> Xubook: what for?
[18:06] <Axeman> shouhttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[18:06] <reisio> Axeman: so well :)
[18:06] <Axeman> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[18:06] <reisio> Axeman: you using 12.04?
[18:06] <EriC^^> givello: ok, the UUID's check out in /etc/fstab, i wonder why it can't find the efi partition while booting
[18:06] <lelo> reisio: thank you
[18:06] <lelo> the issue is now I am in irssi and cannot web browse, but I sill try on my phone
[18:06] <Axeman> no - i'm on 14.04 server
[18:06] <Xubook> reisio I used it to start out with linux, and now want to move it all to my harddrive.
[18:07] <bubbasaures> Xubook, his a full installed just the iso loaded?
[18:07] <EriC^^> reisio: grub complains about not finding the efi partition while booting, resulting in a purple screen, /etc/fstab UUID's are correct, any idea why it would complain about this?
[18:07] <reisio> Xubook: why though
[18:07] <reisio> EriC^^: if it couldn't find the efi partition
[18:07] <EriC^^> reisio: (not grub really complaining i guess, the system logged this while booting)
[18:08] <EriC^^> reisio: could be grub complaining though
[18:08] <EriC^^> reisio: yeah?
[18:08]  * reisio shrugs
[18:08] <Xubook> bubbasaures It is fully installed on the usb
[18:08] <Xubook> reisio It seems to be something interesting to try.
[18:09] <reisio> Xubook: you want the data, or the bootable system?
[18:09] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Couple of ways, clone it or copy and paste the partitions in gparted.
[18:09] <EriC^^> givello: maybe try to reinstall grub?
[18:09] <bloodcage> hey guys... anybody tried to install the kde plasma alongside ubuntu 14.04 and had problems like me with keyboard-layout , too?
[18:09] <Xubook> reisio the bootable system
[18:09] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Some would dd, not myself personally, pretty basic stuff really.
[18:09] <reisio> Xubook: how big is the device?
[18:10] <FilthyMacNasty> about 7 inches by 5 inches
[18:11] <Xubook> reisio the usb is 32 gb hard drive is 250 gb
[18:11] <reisio> Xubook: mmm
[18:11] <FilthyMacNasty> you could use clonezilla to clone it to another machine
[18:12] <givello> EriC^^: ok, any preferred instructions for doing so or do I just google it?
[18:12] <Xubook> bubbasaures do you have a link, I am a newb with linux.. sorry
[18:12] <givello> EriC^^: haven't done it in a while
[18:12] <reisio> Xubook: dd if=/dev/foo bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz
[18:13] <Xubook> reisio So I mount my bootable usb then use your shell script in terminal?
[18:13] <EriC^^> givello: it's fine, if you've mounted the ubuntu installation at /mnt, mount the efi partition at /mnt/boot/efi
[18:13] <reisio> Xubook: don't need to mount it
[18:13] <givello> EriC^^: alright
[18:14] <EriC^^> givello: then run for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:14] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Are you backed up prepared for any contingency?
[18:14] <givello> ok, let me do that
[18:14] <Xubook> Yes I am bubbasaures
[18:15] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Cool, follow reisio they knew the way.
[18:15] <bubbasaures> know*
[18:15] <bynarie> jhutchins_wk, is it safe????
[18:16] <reisio> dd using only 'if=' and redirecting to a simple file is pretty safe
[18:16] <bynarie> no no... it was just a joke
[18:16] <EriC^^> last time i checked dd was a low level copier not a bit hoover :P
[18:16] <reed> is anyone having serious troubles with Thunderbird Calendar? I can't reliably see my google calendars in there anymore, the installed version of Lightning is 3.3.2 while on mozilla.org the latest version is tagged 3.3.1... what's going on?
[18:17] <Xubook> reisio I get this, "dd: opening `/dev/foo': No such file or directory"
[18:17] <bynarie> i cant DD to work.. everytime i use it to copy say a 1.5gb file, it says complete instanly
[18:18] <bynarie> then in file mananger my usb drive shows up in the list about 10 times
[18:18] <Xubook> Should I change foo to the usb name?
[18:18] <reisio> Xubook: 'foo' is the universla first placeholder
[18:18] <reisio> Xubook: yes
[18:18] <genii> Xubook: You need to replace foo with the actual drive
[18:18] <reisio> universal
[18:18] <Xubook> Thanks
[18:18] <FilthyMacNasty> foo is my dog
[18:18] <smrtz|work> I'm trying to tweak my partitions using a live cd and gparted.  Can someone help me out please?
[18:18] <EriC^^> givello: then sudo chroot /mnt
[18:19] <bynarie> what you need to do smrtz|work ???
[18:20] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I'm trying to resize my lvm2 partition so I can create and edit lvms within it.  it's currently too big.
[18:20] <allure> Notebook boots, opens lightdm and goes to black screen when I tyoe the password... The system is dual card with Intel HD 4000 and GT860M... What should i do?
[18:20] <smrtz|work> I'm trying to get setup to use Xen, a hyperviser.
[18:20] <smrtz|work> And I'd like someone to confirm that I'm not deleating my functional install by doing so...
[18:20] <bynarie> smrtz|work, first off you need to make sure you have freespace on the drive, then just right click and hit resize
[18:20] <givello> EriC^^: alright, done
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: sorry for the delay, had to find a way to copy it there
[18:21] <bynarie> i used gparted all the time to resize partitions... nothing has ever bad happened to me.. yet
[18:21] <smrtz|work> bynarie: resize is grayed out, since the lvm2 is 1.36tb.  It's too big.
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: I ended up using the line from yesterday in the logs wich is identical
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: then what?
[18:21] <bynarie> unmount it first then resize it
[18:21] <smrtz|work> bynarie: unmount is grayed out too.
[18:21] <allure> Giving up and installing Debian... Hehehe
[18:22] <bynarie> hm
[18:22] <EriC^^> givello: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[18:22] <bynarie> weird
[18:22] <givello> EriC^^: done
[18:22] <bynarie> i dont know then
[18:22] <EriC^^> givello: ok, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[18:22] <smrtz|work> bynarie: ahh, ok.
[18:23] <Xubook> reisio So I got this, the usb appeared to be under media... so I changed it around a bit.  Tell me if this output in terminal looks good? Should I reboot the computer now? "dd if=/media/erik/332b31cc-9749-443f-a9f6-c66f444305fb bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz dd: reading `/media/erik/332b31cc-9749-443f-a9f6-c66f444305fb': Is a directory 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.000534162 s, 0.0 kB/s"
[18:23] <givello> EriC^^: installation finished, no error reported
[18:23] <EriC^^> givello: update-grub
[18:24] <givello> right
[18:24] <EriC^^> givello: check /var/log/syslog btw, is there anything new there?
[18:24] <givello> EriC^^: done
[18:24] <givello> EriC^^: let me pastebin that
[18:25] <givello> EriC^^: nothing new since the 27th
[18:25] <EriC^^> ok
[18:27] <EriC^^> givello: did you mention fixparts before?
[18:27] <givello> fixparts?
[18:27] <givello> EriC^^: I don't know what fixparts mean
[18:27] <EriC^^> givello: nevermind
[18:27] <givello> EriC^^: I'll have to go soon, so I guess now I should try rebooting
[18:28] <givello> EriC^^: and if it works, yay, if it doesn't, I'll see you in a few hours?
[18:28] <EriC^^> givello: ok, give it a shot
[18:28] <EriC^^> ok
[18:28] <givello> EriC^^: right, let's try it
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: /media/ is the mount point
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: check sudo lsblk -f for the /dev name
[18:29] <smrtz|work> bynarie: here's some information I gathered from when I was on the native OS: sprunge.us/caTh  I need to shrink the root partition.
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: you also needn't reboot
[18:30] <pzkpfw> Could anyone recommend a good gui system monitor that shows the activity of processes like the Win7 resource manager?
[18:31] <reisio> pzkpfw: don't cross post :/
[18:31] <givello> EriC^^: no change at all.
[18:31] <givello> EriC^^: I'll get back to you when I'm back from the bar :D
[18:31] <bynarie> pzkpfw, task manager
[18:31] <smrtz|work> Would someone mind helping me fix a partitioning problem please?  sprunge.us/caTh  I'm currently in a live environment, and I think I need to shrink my root partition?
[18:32] <bynarie> yes you need to shrink it.. but u said u couldnt right??
[18:32] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I cannot, bynarie
[18:32] <bynarie> ok
[18:32] <bynarie> goto ##linux
[18:33] <bynarie> maybe someone there could help
[18:33] <spaztik> Which VNC/Remote Session is suggested these days?
[18:33] <bynarie> lots of activity in that room
[18:33] <spaztik> Been using splashtop on windows and it's amazing, but their desktop client for linux blows
[18:33] <bynarie> spaztik, i use vnc4server and tightvnc
[18:33] <smrtz|work> bynarie: here's what I see in parted:  http://sprunge.us/SXBG
[18:34] <smrtz|work> bynarie: ok, thanks.
[18:35] <kahtahs_> how suitable would xfs be as root filesystem in trusty? at least kernel and grub2 seem to support it and installer let's you choose xfs as / under do something else.
[18:36] <S3thc0n> Hello, I am trying to use apt-get update on 14.04 server, but it is unable to connect, although I can ping the adresses.
[18:36] <reisio> kahtahs_: 's'fine
[18:37] <Axeman> okay - i've gotten further
[18:37] <Axeman> error on line 198 of /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/openssl-1.0.0.cnf
[18:37] <Axeman><PHONE_NUMBER>84800:error:0E065068:configuration file routines:STR_COPY:variable has no value:conf_def.c:618:line 198
[18:37] <Axeman> when i issue ./build-ca
[18:37] <Xubook> reisio Does this look better? sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz
[18:38] <reisio> Xubook: yup
[18:38] <FilthyMacNasty> use clonezilla
[18:38] <smrtz|work> bynarie: PM'd
[18:38] <reisio> Xubook: might replace bar.dd.gz with usbstick20141029.dd.gz
[18:38] <kahtahs_> so it does boot up with xfs as root, but not sure how well error-checking is built-in. for example in dmesg i've seen: "FAT-fs (/dev/sda1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck." but /dev/sda1 is the xfs partition not fat
[18:39] <reisio> kahtahs_: did it used to be fat?
[18:39] <Xubook> reisio Good, Thanks for your help.  After running the script getting output from terminal is taking a while.
[18:39] <genii> kahtahs_: Likely the partition descriptor is fat
[18:39] <reisio> Xubook: you won't get any
[18:40] <reisio> Xubook: if you want some output, sudo apt-get install pv (from universe), then make it dd if=whatever bs=1024 | pv | gzip > whatever
[18:41] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda1".
[18:41] <kahtahs_> reisio: no, did dd/dev/zero and a standard trusty install before. so was ext4
[18:41] <pzkpfw> htop
[18:41] <pzkpfw> atop
[18:41] <reisio> Xubook: or run this elsewhere: while(true); do kill -USR1 $(pgrep -x dd); sleep 10s; done
[18:41] <pzkpfw> swag
[18:41] <pzkpfw> gucci
[18:41] <Pici> pzkpfw: please stop
[18:41] <reisio> kahtahs_: what does /etc/fstab say about it?
[18:41] <potatoes_> how can I pipe an attachment to send out through email
[18:41] <reisio> kahtahs_: why'd you dd/dev/zero ?
[18:42] <potatoes_> similar to like cat something | mail -s "tes..."<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:42] <kahtahs_> reisio: bad sectors
[18:43] <reisio> bad sectors, that's not a hardware issue?
[18:43] <FilthyMacNasty> sure is
[18:43] <reisio> then zeroing won't help
[18:43] <reisio> and for that matter, zeroing doesn't usually help :)
[18:44] <reisio> not the way people think it does
[18:44] <FilthyMacNasty> get spinrite it will move the data from the bad sectors and mark them bad
[18:44] <reisio> why spend the time, just replace the drive
[18:44] <FilthyMacNasty> R/R the drive is the best method
[18:45] <kahtahs_> reisio: it does. makes it possible to reallocate those bad sectors: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[18:45] <reisio> FilthyMacNasty: R/R?
[18:45] <reisio> kahtahs_: waste of time
[18:45] <FilthyMacNasty> remove and replace
[18:45] <reisio> FilthyMacNasty: ah, indeed :)
[18:45] <reisio> no point investing in something that already has a history of failing
[18:45] <FilthyMacNasty> buy a terabyte, its cheap now
[18:46] <reisio> I think the best byte-per-dollar is more around 3TB now, but
[18:46] <reisio> you might spread your cash around a bit
[18:46] <reisio> if you are on a budget
[18:46] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda1". I understand that this command looks destructive, so you should definitely read the manual and confirm for yourself that it is not before running it, but please don't just ignore my request.
[18:46] <kahtahs_> Jordan_U: can't i just display the signature?
[18:48] <kahtahs_> FilthyMacNasty: it costs money and that old machine isn't really worth it. smart still deems that hdd useable
[18:48] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: If the output of that command is only one line, then you don't need to use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com if that's what you're asking. If that's not what you're asking, then I don't understand the question.
[18:49] <FilthyMacNasty> kahtahs_: then I would recommend running spinrite on it
[18:49] <studentttu> Hello. Im using a USB soundcard and for some reason the left and right sounds are mixed up. Is there a way to change them in ubuntu?
[18:49] <studentttu> I dont have the same problem in windows
[18:50] <FilthyMacNasty> heh, switch your speakers about
[18:50] <studentttu> Im using headphones which are very uncomfortable if I turn them the wrong way
[18:51] <flexus> i need java applets in chromium or firefox, how does it work ?
[18:51] <kahtahs_> FilthyMacNasty: which part of spinrite?
[18:51] <qengho> flexus: you must use Firefox for a while.
[18:51] <FilthyMacNasty> the repair
[18:52] <bynarie> studentttu, everyting working OK?
[18:52] <bynarie> other than sound
[18:53] <flexus> doesnt work in firefox too
[18:53] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah everything else is good :D thans for help
[18:53] <bynarie> great np
[18:53] <studentttu> bynarie:  just weird that sounds are mixed like that
[18:53] <bynarie> yea it is wierd... have you checked all of your sound mixers and whatnot?
[18:53] <qengho> flexus: I suspect installing "default-jre" and running Firefox should be enough.
[18:53] <reisio> flexus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin
[18:54] <flexus> qengho: will try the apt package
[18:54] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah, everything works fine in windows. It's just some weird ubuntu thing, and there is no setting i can find to change them.  Tried this too :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/111523/how-can-you-reverse-left-and-right-speakers-from-a-control-panel  but didnt work. Also tried this
[18:55] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Please file a bug report about this by running "ubuntu-bug -s audio".
[18:56] <Jordan_U> studentttu: I think those particular instructions swap the right and left channel for sound card '0' only, which is probably your internal sound card.
[18:56] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  is it considered a mixer problem?
[18:57] <Adephit> what is the easy server to install in ubuntu trysty: lubuntu to access the server?
[18:57] <studentttu> or none of the above
[18:57] <Adephit> with ssh connection
[18:58] <FilthyMacNasty> ubuntu server 14.04
[18:58] <teward> Adephit: ubuntu server 14.04, plus openssh-server on it so you can SSH in
[18:58] <reisio> Adephit: eh?
[18:58] <kahtahs_> Jordan_U: wipefs output: " 0x0                  xfs   [filesystem]"
[18:58] <Adephit> what openssh-server?
[18:59] <FilthyMacNasty> sudo apt-get install ssh
[18:59] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: OK, that confirms that you don't have any FAT signatures on that filesystem.
[18:59] <Adephit> teward
[19:01] <Adephit> i have the lubuntu installed, but cant access it
[19:01] <He4dShOt> hello
[19:01] <Adephit> i need a server to access it
[19:02] <He4dShOt> lately ubuntu freezes
[19:02] <He4dShOt> and I can't understand why
[19:02] <He4dShOt> there is nothing in syslog
[19:03] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  I did the report, but I dont think anyone is going to understand what is wrong because the sounds work correctly otherwise except that right and left are switched and there wasnt an option for comments or left/right problems
[19:03] <studentttu> So I couldnt explain the problem
[19:03] <studentttu> o_o
[19:04] <Jordan_U> studentttu: How did you file a bug report? There is most certainly an area for comments and a detailed description on launchpad bug reports.
[19:04] <kahtahs_> anyway how's xfs error-checking integrated into trusty? random google says it never does xfs_repair automatically?
[19:04] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  weird, I didnt get any link opened or anything it just said bug report sent
[19:05] <Jordan_U> studentttu: It should have opened a browser window asking you to add more information.
[19:05] <erle-> mp4/h264/aac videos don't play in my current utopic (current updates, no proposed updates)
[19:05] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  it opened a log in windows for ubuntu one and I created an account but nothing else happened after login
[19:05] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  should I make a new report?
[19:06] <studentttu> *log in window
[19:07] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Yes please.
[19:08] <Adephit> anyone can help me using a server to access the lubuntu desktom with ssh. thanks
[19:08] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[19:08] <Adephit> or this....
[19:09] <Adephit> do you knowwhat is wrong?
[19:09] <Adephit> thanks
[19:10] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  okay it should be there now
[19:11] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Please post a link to the bug report so that I can follow it.
[19:15] <flexus> qengho: reisio thx very much both of you, the ice plugin on firefox worked for me. great
[19:15] <pzkpfw> can htop monitor network traffic by processes?
[19:15] <qengho> flexus: welcome
[19:16] <kahtahs_> pzkpfw: no, that's something for nethogs
[19:18] <studentttu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1387326
[19:19] <canaima> google
[19:20] <Jordan_U> studentttu: I would try asking in #pulseaudio (note that you might have to wait many hours, or even a day, for a response as it's a small channel).
[19:20] <studentttu> okay
[19:23] <ses1984> is there a simple way to get ubuntu desktop to use network authentication against an ubuntu server? i also would like all the clients to share the same user to UID and group to GID mappings
[19:23] <potatoes_> I'm having an issue with Cron, I have a script I made scheduled to run however it doesn't find the paths correctly, or working directory, is there some way I can fix this so it runs it like I would be running from the CLI?
[19:24] <potatoes_> it's driving me bonkers
[19:24] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Please pastebin your script and your crontab.
[19:24] <rberg> potatoes_:  you can set the path in your script
[19:24] <potatoes_> berg, I have it set to /tmp/stale
[19:25] <potatoes_> and my crontab is just your run of the mill * * * * * /tmp/stale/stale.sh
[19:26] <rberg> potatoes_: you have the path set to /tmp/stale? are redefining PATH all together?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Please pastebin your script.
[19:27] <potatoes_> Jordan_U":  i wish I could but its copyrighted :(
[19:27] <potatoes_> and closed
[19:27] <potatoes_> my employer would kill me
[19:28] <potatoes_> oh crap
[19:28] <potatoes_> i think i fixed it..
[19:28] <potatoes_> i just added cd $WORKING_DIRECTORY
[19:28] <potatoes_> lol
[19:29] <Nao> Bonsoir
[19:29] <ooloo> Once again, there's nothing wrong with ubuntu, and it's working just fine. What do I do?
[19:30] <geirha> potatoes_: don't forget to check that cd succeeded, e.g. by adding   || exit   after it
[19:30] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Hopefully you actually added something with proper quoting of variable expansions, like: cd "$WORKING_DIRECTORY"
[19:31] <potatoes_> geirha: you live everywhere
[19:31] <potatoes_> geirha: where do you not idle!
[19:33] <geirha> Don't worry, I'm just stalking you
[19:33] <potatoes_> There could be worse people stalking me
[19:34] <potatoes_> so I'm not worried honestly :)
[19:35] <bean1020> does anyone know how to improve batterylife with ubuntu?
[19:35] <bean1020> I have a hp-sleekbook-15
[19:35] <bean1020> and battery life isn't where I want it to be wondering if I could do anything to improve it?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> bean1020: Ensure that you have good graphics drivers installed, and try running "powertop".
[19:36] <potatoes_> buy a macbook :)
[19:36] <Jelle_> Hello guys. At the moment I got my Ubuntu server up and running, but I have to install the server-software for Jira. I followed the following tutorial: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Installing+JIRA+on+Linux , altho at step 2.1 I need to execute a .sh file, but I get the 'Command not found' error. I hope someone can help me out :)
[19:36] <bean1020> potatoes_,  lol yes a macbook lol
[19:36] <Goldwing> Q: i have a SIP phone that is using a VLAN that i can't remember. i did a full reset but the VLAN setting remains.
[19:36] <bean1020> Jordan_U, how can I make sure I have the right graphics driver installed?
[19:36] <ddd1970> ciao
[19:37] <ddd1970> !list
[19:37] <Goldwing> I do see the IP on the display, how can i figure out what VLAN it's using?
[19:37] <Eleuin> sudo sh ./file_name_of_shell_script.sh
[19:37] <Jordan_U> bean1020: If you have an intel card, then you can just assume you do. If you have an ATI or Nvidia card, then to get proper power managemant support you may need to install proprietary drivers.
[19:38] <Jelle_> Eleuin: Then I get a super huge error. Jira support told me that I shouldn't use sh, but just use the script
[19:38] <bean1020> Jordan_U, I have an intel card so should be good there, what can I do with powertop?
[19:39] <Eleuin> Jelle_ try right clicking, then properties -> Permissions -> Allow executing file as program
[19:39] <jonmorehouse> does anyone know how to install uuidgen?
[19:39] <jonmorehouse> I've tried e2fsprogs ... and am not getting it?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> bean1020: Powertop is a command that will find different things that tend to use up power, like processes waking up the CPU, and gives you recommendations for eliminating those things.
[19:40] <Jelle_> Eleuin: I only have command line ubuntu. Can't get my VNC working :/
[19:42] <Eleuin> you have cd'd into the directory that housed the file, right?
[19:42] <Jelle_> Yeah, when i ls I can see the file.. :/
[19:42] <fatalrhmer91> heloo
[19:43] <lonewulf85> Hey in the default wallpaper selection for Ubuntu 14.04 there is one that changes every so often. Is there a way I can set up my own wallpaper packedge to do the same thing?
[19:43] <Eleuin> Jelle_ can you post the terminal result on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <Eleuin> or is that not possible right now?
[19:44] <Jelle_> yeah one second :)
[19:44] <Eleuin> its a lot easier when i can see the error output :3
[19:44] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8736982/  here you are
[19:44] <Eleuin> thx m8
[19:44] <Jelle_> Yeah I suppose so, but I didn't know if I could post screenshots or such :D
[19:45] <Goldwing> Q: i have a SIP phone that is using a VLAN that i can't remember. i did a full reset but the VLAN setting remains. I do see the IP on the display, how can i figure out what VLAN it's using?
[19:46] <Eleuin> Jelle_: maybe try sh ./start-jira.sh
[19:46] <Jelle_> Too bad, already tried that too :/ I'm really confused
[19:47] <genii> Goldwing: How is this an Ubuntu support question?
[19:49] <Eleuin> Jelle_ can you paste me java -version
[19:49] <Jelle_> Eleuin from the output?
[19:49] <Eleuin> yep
[19:51] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737056/
[19:53] <Jelle_> Oh wait I think I just found a better error, one second
[19:53] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737079/
[19:53] <a_> hi guys, does someone own a thinkpad with ubuntu server? If so, how did you get the sound working?
[19:55] <k1l> a_: what? thinkpad with ubuntu server?
[19:57] <a_> k1l: hi, do you mean if I use a thinkpad with ubuntu server?
[19:59] <OerHeks> a_, that was your question. it can be done, alsa sound on a server
[19:59] <Jelle_> Eleuin , got any idea about that java error?
[19:59] <OerHeks> http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/03/ubuntu-server-install-alsa-sound-and-moc-music-on-console/
[19:59] <k1l> a_: yes. just to make sure. because with a desktop running it should be no issue at all.
[19:59] <a_> OerHeks: beste OerHeks, thank you for your reply
[19:59] <Eleuin> it really looks like java is your problem Jelle_
[20:00] <k1l> a_: but with alsa/pulseaudio it should work. but i am not familiar what there needs to be done on a server
[20:00] <Jelle_> Any idea on what I could do to fix that Eleuin? It's a brand new ubuntu server actually
[20:01] <a_> k1l: yes, it is true that the desktop edition doesnt give any issues about this subject. However, I prefer to use a minimalist OS without fancy GUI stuff
[20:02] <k1l> a_: that is all fine. its just uncommon in this channel :) but with installing alsa/pulseaudio (like its used on desktops) that should do
[20:03] <tannji> Has anyone heard of a problem with Ubuntu 14.10 having blurry text in windows, seemingly when they lose focus?
[20:03] <smrtz|work> I fixed my partitioning problem, but I'm still getting the same error: sprunge.us/TWLF  How can I tell lvcreate to create it on the Storage partition?
[20:03] <a_> k1l: ok :-)
[20:04] <Jelle_> Eleuin Do you have any idea to fix that java problem? :/
[20:05] <Eleuin> you would have to edit the amount of RAM allocated to java
[20:06] <ckdot> @ all german guys here... i like to invite you to the aboutyou.de hackathon. we gonna pay everything for you (hotel, food). it's on 8th/9th november. if you like just contact me.
[20:06] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I was able to fix that problem.
[20:06] <Eleuin> think its something like java -Xm<amount>M -Xs<amount>M but i am not entirely sure
[20:12] <after_r> ubuntu hotel! :)
[20:13] <devhost> Is there a way to identify which idiot changed the permissions of a file on our server? I'm on sudoer but can't read /home as it's locked down by NIC which I don't have access too.
[20:13] <devhost> I mean that I can't read user's home directories and thus .bash_history
[20:13] <EriC^^> devhost: you can try /var/log/authlog
[20:14] <EriC^^> *auth.log
[20:14] <devhost> Would that have information about chmod usage?
[20:14] <OerHeks> devhost, did you encrypt /home/ ?
[20:14] <EriC^^> if he used sudo the command should be there
[20:14] <devhost> OerHeks: It's not /home it's the users folders within /home that I don't have access too.
[20:15] <EriC^^> devhost: you don't have sudo?
[20:15] <devhost> I have sudo on this machine
[20:15] <devhost> I cannot touch the files within /home because they aren't there
[20:15] <devhost> they are on a NIC
[20:15] <smrtz|work> Is there an easy way I can delete a logical volume in the same physical volume as my mounted root directory?
[20:15] <devhost> and I don't have access to that
[20:16] <devhost> just realized this machine is actually CentOS. :(
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Please define your use of "NIC".
[20:16] <devhost> no /var/log/auth.log
[20:16] <EriC^^> devhost: try secure
[20:16] <EriC^^> /var/log/secure
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Try /var/log/secure
[20:16] <EriC^^> something like that
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> EriC^^: You got it.
[20:17] <devhost> Our NIC syncs userspace with a machine, I'm not the IT here. I'm just the admin of this one server.
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Why are you talking about network cards?
[20:18] <devhost> I'm not.
[20:18] <Naphatul> how do i set dhclient not to do arp probing?
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Then please explain what "NIC" means in your context.
[20:18] <devhost> I don't really know how this NIC thing works. I just don't have access to userspace.
[20:18] <devhost> It's all managed on another server.
[20:19] <devhost> It's tangent really to the issue.
[20:20] <devhost> Nothing in /var/log/secure I guess.
[20:20] <EriC^^> devhost: check root's .bash_history then
[20:21] <devhost> hmm
[20:21] <devhost> Good point
[20:21] <EriC^^> must be in one unless he killed the terminal before bash wrote the history, or erased the secure logs
[20:21] <devhost> Might be root, but I can't check other users bash_history
[20:21] <devhost> That's what I was trying to say.
[20:22] <EriC^^> could be in root, worth a shot
[20:23] <flexus> reisio: the weasle plugin worked at first, after starting another java app it didnt work anymore
[20:24] <Naphatul> is it even possible to disable arp probing on dhclient?
[20:25] <devhost> EriC^^: found it, thanks, he must of assumed root and ran the command
[20:25] <vfw> Naphatul: I may be late to the conversation, but; Why?
[20:26] <Naphatul> vfw, it's a local network it's not much use, i'd preffer the few seconds faster connect time
[20:26] <flexus> got this error in console at icedtea: http://paste.debian.net/129295/
[20:26] <qengho> Naphatul: I think the server might use arp, but I don't think the client does.
[20:29] <Naphatul> qengho, rfc spec says client should check the address received, at least that's how i understand it
[20:29] <Naphatul> i'm pretty sure this indeed happen and made a small difference a while back but i don't remember much
[20:29] <qengho> Naphatul: Okay, but that doesn't mean your client is doing it.
[20:30] <qengho> Naphatul: Have any "tcpdump" log that shows it happening?
[20:30] <vfw> Naphatul: Is this your home network?
[20:30] <Naphatul> vfw, yes
[20:30] <Naphatul> qengho, no i figured i might look for the option first, turning it off won't harm anything
[20:31] <vfw> Naphatul: How about just static IP?
[20:32] <qengho> Naphatul: Oh, but you're not looking. You're asking us.
[20:32] <Naphatul> qengho, i went through all the man pages for dhclient and didn't find anything
[20:32] <Naphatul> vfw, that's a possiblity
[20:33] <vfw> Naphatul: Yea, that's what I do.  That way, I know where evertying is.
[20:33] <Naphatul> i was hoping to keep name resolution since the router is doing it anyway and doesn't work for static adresses
[20:33] <qengho> vfw: I just put clients in my DHCP server, so I know where they are too, all in one place.
[20:34] <vfw> Naphatul: And if you know there won't be any other clients, you could even trun off the DHCP server on the router.
[20:34] <Naphatul> vfw, well there will be new clients, it's just that the router is set to give this mac adress the same ip every time
[20:34] <OTR> turn of DHCP
[20:34] <OTR> lol
[20:34] <vfw> Naphatul: And what is wrong with that?
[20:35] <vfw> OTR: Why not?
[20:35] <OTR> why yes?
[20:35] <Naphatul> it still uses dhcp but just gives it the same address, pretty sure it has to go through the same steps since the client doesn't know that
[20:35] <vfw> OTR: If you don't need it, turn it off.
[20:35] <OTR> but you need it
[20:36] <vfw> Naphatul: So at this point you are using static assigned DHCP list on the router.  Right?
[20:37] <OTR> unless you got to much time on your hands to configure every single ip by hand
[20:37] <Naphatul> vfw, for a few machines, yes
[20:37] <vfw> OTR: Not necessarily, you don't always need it.
[20:37] <Naphatul> but the majority aren't
[20:37] <OTR> are you talking about ipv6»
[20:38] <Naphatul> dhcpcd has a handy --noarp switch i was hoping dhclient had it too
[20:38] <vfw> Naphatul: Right, so just set the dhcp pool for others (guest clients), and set your own PC's to static IPs, (ones thar are outside the range of the DHCP pool).
[20:38] <vfw> OTR: No, (but it wouldn't matter).  If you have clients set to static IPs, you don't need the dhcp server and so you can just turn it off.
[20:39] <OTR> doesnt static ips defeat the pourpose of net?
[20:39] <OTR> nat
[20:39] <vfw> OTR: In the event you do have a guest that wants to enter the network, you just give them IP information that you want them to use.
[20:40] <vfw> OTR: No
[20:40] <Naphatul> totally different things
[20:40] <vfw> OTR: It does not defeat the purpose of net or nat
[20:40] <vfw> Naphatul: Agreed.
[20:41] <OTR> yes you just like to give people something to waste time on
[20:41] <vfw> OTR: (This conversation is not about NAT.)
[20:41] <OTR> instead of leting the machine do the work
[20:41] <lelamal> Hi all! When I check for updates, on Muon Update Manager, I'm told a new version of Kubuntu is available. Then I click on Upgrade, enter my password, but nothing happens. I try to copy/paste the command from the popup window on a termianl, and this is what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737605/
[20:41] <vfw> OTR: Are you sure your comment is relevant?
[20:42] <OTR> i guess thats a mater of opinion
[20:42] <vfw> lelamal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:43] <Naphatul> lelamal, can you try "LC_ALL=C do-release-upgrade" ?
[20:43] <matrixa1> Help! My Xubuntu 14.10 is charging my battery even though it's charged! Its ruining my battery!
[20:43] <vfw> matrixa1: How do you know?
[20:43] <matrixa1> vfw, because I'm checking the battery's charging/draining status
[20:43] <matrixa1> vfw, and this doesn't happen in windows
[20:44] <matrixa1> vfw, at 91% it says "fully charged", then drops to 90% and says "11 minutes util fully charged"
[20:45] <Jelle_> how can I check if my server got a firewall running? I Can't seem to connect to an application running on my server :/
[20:45] <vfw> Jelle_: nmap
[20:45] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, A windows comparison is empty rhetoric here is all.
[20:45] <ikonia> nmap doesn't tell if you have a firewall
[20:45] <lelamal> Naphatul: same output
[20:45] <vfw> ikonia: But it tells if a port is blocked or not.
[20:45] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, yeah, thank you, at least I can rule out that it's a hardware fault.......
[20:45] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[20:46] <ikonia> it shows one possible option
[20:46] <Jelle_> no idea what to look for in that output
[20:46] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know why some wifi networks in Ubuntu show as both 'somenetwork' and 'somenetwork1'?
[20:46] <vfw> ikonia: Do you have a better idea?
[20:46] <Naphatul> lelamal, can you try switching back to english while upgrading? i had weird issues myself when using localization
[20:46] <gac> ThePendulum: could be dual band, 2.4ghz + 5ghz?
[20:47] <vfw> Jelle_: It will tell you it is blocked.  (But you also have to know if there is a particular server listening on that port as well.)
[20:47] <Jelle_> Yeah, I'm using the correct port
[20:47] <gac> vfw: it won't tell you if it's blocked - it'll tell you whether it's accessible. just because it isn't accessible doesn't mean it's firewalled on the server
[20:47] <gac> could have crashed, could be running on localhost, could be not NATted
[20:47] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, What you may not know is that the battery makers do not provide firmware for linux any is, backward made.
[20:47] <Jelle_> well my browser just keeps loading the page, endlessly
[20:48] <ikonia> yes, use ufw or iptables to list the firewall rules
[20:48] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, that suddenly stops working after a 14.10 upgrade? I think not
[20:49] <alexgl> i need to move an option in grub, when in grub command mode, what can i do
[20:49] <Jelle_> so how do I check the firewall issues?
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: what is the application you are trying to run
[20:50] <Jelle_> JIRA
[20:50] <after_r> Hello... I was wondering is there a way to set up Linux so that it blocks network access to all programs by default, and then I have a config file that says things like "Application at /bin/myapp can access ip <IP_ADDRESS>, Application at /bin/otherapp can access any ip, etc.."  ?
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: as in the sprint managment tool ?
[20:50] <vfw> Jelle_: It will say filtered if the firewall is blocking it.
[20:50] <Jelle_> yeah, that tool :)
[20:50] <after_r> and then only those applications would have access to the specified apps
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so that should be running on port 80
[20:50] <after_r> I mean specified addresses
[20:50] <ikonia> as it's a web interface
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: are you talking about connecting to the web interface or the web interface to the database ?
[20:50] <ThePendulum> gac: I'm pretty certain all our networks here are 2.4GHz only atm
[20:51] <stetho> Jira runs on 8080 by default
[20:51] <gac> vfw: filtered can mean many things though...if the machine responds to ping (i.e. a NAT gateway) but the port isn't open (i.e. not portforwarded) you'll still get a filtered response if there is no filter on the server
[20:51] <ThePendulum> gac: Confirmed by a quick scan with my phone :P
[20:51] <vfw> Jelle_: For instance, "80/tcp open  http" vs "80/tcp filtered http"
[20:51] <Jelle_> Should be 8080..
[20:51] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, You "think not" is the key phrase honestly.
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so you're trying to run it on port 8080
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: so by default ubuntu firewall should be blocking that
[20:51] <Jelle_> ikonia: I'm just setting my server up, so it is the initial setup
[20:51] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, thanks for your help
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:52] <ikonia> Jelle_: that should help you
[20:52] <Zta> Anyone ever install Ubuntu on a Macbook pro for single boot -- ie. no MacOS?  I'm wondering if I *must* make a EFI boot partition?  Or is it enough with simply a root paritition.
[20:52] <Naphatul> matrixa1, you might have a better shot asking #xubuntu, or/and report a bug
[20:53] <chick> Hi im using ubuntu14 and my top bar has disappeared. I cant see my network status or power status and other notifications How do i bring the bar back up please?
[20:53] <stetho> Jelle_: I've just joined the channel so missed the original question. If you've installed Jira on Ubuntu server using the binary it just works.
[20:53] <Jelle_> I typed ufw enable and now the firewall is enabled, so it was disabled before?
[20:53] <ikonia> Jelle_: no, it's enabled by default
[20:53] <Jelle_> stetho: Yeah I just installed jira on my server, but I can't connect to it in my browser
[20:54] <stetho> Did you install it using the .bin installer?
[20:54] <ikonia> ufw will block 8080 by default
[20:54] <ikonia> so a.) make sure it's running b.) make sure the firewall is open
[20:54] <Jelle_> Yeah
[20:55] <vfw> gac: Not ture, far as I can tell. Not with iptables anyway.
[20:55] <Jelle_> I think it is running, And i just tried 'sudo ufw enable 8080' but still not working
[20:55] <vfw> gac: I just tested with iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DRO
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: "think" it's running isn't a check
[20:55] <vfw> P
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: verify it's running
[20:55] <gac> vfw: maybe not, but there are certainly network configurations which will bring up "filtered" when there's no firewall running on the server
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: verify you can connect to it locally
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: that isn't the right syntax
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: READ the page
[20:56] <stetho> service jira status
[20:56] <vfw> gac: Can you give me an example...?
[20:56] <Jelle_> service jira status is just giving me this: 'Usage: /etc/init.d/jira {start|stop}'
[20:56] <gac> not right now as i can't remember the last box that i saw like it - i thought it was when a ping response worked but a connection didn't
[20:56] <OTR> why dont router come with a proxie built in?
[20:56] <Jelle_> Oh and Ikonia, I did read it :P
[20:56] <gac> but obviously not that, as you've tested
[20:56] <ikonia> Jelle_: you didn't read it
[20:56] <ikonia> Jelle_: or you wouldn't be typing in non-existant commands
[20:57] <ikonia> as that page gives you examples
[20:57] <stetho> OK, /etc/init.d/jira stop and then /etc/init.d/jira start && tail -f /var/log/syslog
[20:57] <OTR> why dont routers come with a proxie built in?
[20:57] <ikonia> Jelle_: a.) verify it's running b.) verify the firewall will allow the connection externally
[20:57] <stetho> OTR: Would need a faster processor and therefore make them more expensive.
[20:58] <acerspyro> http://i.imgur.com/3mhNFup.png Some windows appear skewed to the right when maximized, but mouse aiming is still in relation to where the window should be. Seen with Blender and Chromium so far, anyone knows what's going on?
[20:58] <Jelle_> ikonia: I don't see anything about what you're saying it doesn't exist?
[20:58] <vfw> There are a number of ways to test a port for repsonse and sometimes it would depend on what port/server it is.
[20:58] <ikonia> Jelle_: nowhere in that page does it say "sudo ufy enable 8080"
[20:58] <OTR> new routers have better cpus that my 10 years old desktop
[20:58] <ikonia> OTR: not really interested in router discussion in here
[20:58] <ThePendulum> Every application trying to access our NAS on all accounts but mine on this laptop freezes. Any ideas how to start figuring this out? It's using cifs
[20:58] <Jelle_> oh a typo sorry, I did allow of course
[20:58] <ikonia> Jelle_: so a.) verify it's running - then move forward
[20:59] <Jelle_> well when I type GET / in my terminal, it is giving me output. Jira support told me that makes sure it is running
[21:00] <Fleuv> histo, I've just completely re-installed apache still I'm able to access one of my old hosts which i can't find in my "/etc/hosts" file where can I find or how can I remove this host(s)?
[21:00] <Fleuv> lal histo -> Hi :)
[21:00] <ikonia> Jelle_ so if you do "telnet localhost 8080" do you get a socket ?
[21:00] <Jelle_> yep
[21:00] <Jelle_> should I try restarting jira?
[21:00] <stetho> OTR: Do you really think a ten year old desktop is a good point of reference? My watch has a better processor than a ten year old computer.
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: no need for that
[21:01] <OTR> proxies worked back then
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: you know you have $something listening
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: so what do you see if you do<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Read error:
[21:01] <ikonia> oops
[21:01] <ikonia> sudo ufw status
[21:01] <ikonia> (use a pastebin for the output)
[21:02] <gac> proxies work now, not sure of your point...
[21:02] <acerspyro> Is it that people don't notice my question or is it that noone knows the answer?
[21:02] <vfw> Jelle_: You might use netstat on the server to see if you have what you thing you have.
[21:02] <OTR> i mean proxies are so usefull i m amazed why router dont have them builtin
[21:02] <vfw> Jelle_: netstat -pantu
[21:02] <Jelle_> i get: Status: active, and 8080 Action allow and from anywhere
[21:03] <ikonia> OTR last warning - we do not want router talk in here
[21:03] <Jelle_> yeah netstat is also giving me 8080 'listen'
[21:03] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so you know a.) your server is listening on 8080 b.) your server is allowing connections to 8080
[21:03] <ikonia> Jelle_: so what's your client doing ?
[21:03] <vfw> Jelle_: And what did nmap say about it?
[21:03] <OTR> how do i setup proxie on my ubuntu?
[21:03] <Jelle_> I'm trying to connect to it in the browser, but it is just not loading
[21:03] <Fleuv> acerspyro, im not familiar with these kind of problems also I dont know the answer, sorry.
[21:04] <acerspyro> :(
[21:04] <Jelle_> vfw: hmm, nmap? I missed that one
[21:04] <ikonia> OTR what type of proxy
[21:04] <gac> OTR: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html would be a good starting piont, assuming you mean a web proxy
[21:04] <Fleuv> acerspyro: Are you able to fix it temporarily?
[21:04] <OTR> should i run a ubuntu server install on a vm and route all traffic thru it?
[21:04] <vfw> Jelle_: From the client:  nmap -p 8080 192.168.x.x
[21:04] <acerspyro> Fleuv: ?
[21:05] <Fleuv> Or do you have to close the whole program
[21:05] <Jelle_> vfw: so just my own terminal on my computer?
[21:05] <ikonia> OTR why ?
[21:05] <acerspyro> It only does it when maximized, it doesn't do it if it's windowed
[21:05] <ikonia> OTR: what benifit would that give you ?
[21:05] <vfw> OTR: squid
[21:06] <Fleuv> acerspyro: Any other strange symptoms occur?
[21:06] <OTR> to have a private network
[21:06] <Jelle_> Wait I tried connecting to it, and now it is working! Awesome :D
[21:06] <vfw> OTR: And to filter content that you don't want... etc...
[21:06] <OTR> not having the desktop facing the internet
[21:06] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Well, as I said, the mouse pointing still relates to the normal position of the window rather than the buggy one currently shown
[21:07] <OTR> yes filter
[21:07] <acerspyro> And, maybe that's not related, but trying to alt + tab in a fullscreen window screws up
[21:07] <whoppaz13> Hello
[21:07] <OTR> run adblock
[21:07] <Jelle_> Hmm, shouldn't have been so happy. When I click to the next page it isn't loading either :/
[21:07] <OTR> for eg
[21:08] <vfw> OTR: A proxy has it's uses, but only if the need is there would it be worth the touble to set on up.
[21:08] <OTR> block unwanted protocols
[21:08] <lelamal> Naphatul: ok, thanks, I'll try that!
[21:08] <acerspyro> I can interact with all the applications, I can do keybinds and everything, but the fullscreen program is taking up the whole screen, so I have to go back in that program via alt + tab, and either do Win + D before alt tabbing or ask the program to go windows.
[21:08] <Naphatul> OTR, usually people use a firewall for that, and i'm not sure what 'protocols' you wouldn't want
[21:09] <OTR> just the caching feature of proxie alone is a good enough reason
[21:09] <OTR> it could save like 50 percent of trafic
[21:09] <whoppaz13> I need help.  I have 2 installs of Ubuntu 14.04 on one hdd.  One that's functional and one that is not.  The non-functional one is Partition 1 and the functional one is Partition 6.  If I wipe out Partition 1, will I also lose the grub loader and not make it bootable anymore?
[21:10] <vfw> OTR: True, (it can cut down on outside triffic).
[21:10] <ikonia> I don't think you'll see much benifit at home
[21:10] <OTR> yes i will
[21:11] <Fleuv> acerspyro: My experience with full screen mode on ubuntu is that it sux on most multi platform compatible programs
[21:11] <Jordan_U> whoppaz13: You should always re-run grub-install after making any partition changes (it's not always strictly needed, but it's easier to just always do it than to determine if you need to or not).
[21:12] <Jordan_U> whoppaz13: You should also always have a LiveCD/USB handy in case something goes wrong.
[21:12] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Which is pretty much all programs available.
[21:12] <acerspyro> Because Blender does it when I alt-tab from it while it's fullscreened
[21:13] <Quatroking> does an open source client for skype exists?
[21:13] <acerspyro> Quatroking: Nope, the Skype protocol is closed
[21:13] <Fleuv> acerspyro: are you talking about fullscreen like watching youtube videos or playing games
[21:13] <Quatroking> ugh
[21:13] <acerspyro> Pidgin can connect to Skype, but you still need the Skype program
[21:13] <OerHeks> Skype core is closedsource, client can be open
[21:13] <Quatroking> the skype client on linux is outdated by over 2 years and is pathetic
[21:13] <whoppaz13> Thank you Jordan_U.  I will try it out.  Would it matter though that its all on the same physical drive?
[21:13] <acerspyro> Quatroking: Probably not a solid solution, but I recommend switching to Google Hangout.
[21:14] <vfw> whoppaz13: If you just need more space on the other partitions, you can just set partition 1 to a very small size, (like maybe only one or two meg), and that way, nothing will need to be changed.  But if you delete it, yes changes will need to be made so that your system will boot and run.
[21:14] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Fullscreen programs
[21:14] <whoppaz13> I like that idea even better, vfw.  Gparted good for that??
[21:14] <acerspyro> For example: Alt + F11 in Blender.
[21:14] <acerspyro> Try to Alt-Tab
[21:14] <rich_> skype is not just closed it is monitored telcom spyware.
[21:15] <vfw> whoppaz13: Yes.
[21:15] <acerspyro> rich_: That's off-scope, tho.
[21:15] <acerspyro> Fleuv: I use 14.10 btw, idk if I mentionned
[21:15] <vfw> vfw: I keep a gparted liveCD handy. http://gparted.org/download.php
[21:15] <Quatroking> holy hell when I click away skype it keeps running in the background with no way to open it up again without restarting the entire process
[21:15] <Quatroking> it doesn't even save my microsoft login
[21:15] <spaztik> damnit
[21:15] <Quatroking> jesus
[21:16] <acerspyro> Quatroking: 32-bit only
[21:16] <Fleuv> hiihi, nope acespyro but yes were talking about the same thing
[21:16] <OTR> you can do skype like chats using chrome now
[21:16] <whoppaz13> ok, cool. Thanks, vfw.  I appreciate the info!
[21:16] <OTR> so ive read
[21:16] <Quatroking> acerspyro, i installed the 12.04 multiarch deb tho
[21:16] <vfw> Quatroking: Yes, that is the way it works. You would have to kill the actual application.
[21:16] <reisio> Quatroking: sure it's not just in the tray?
[21:16] <lvleph> what is the new command for gnome-sound-applet in 14.10?
[21:16] <Quatroking> reisio, nope, it doesn't go to the tray
[21:16] <reisio> Quatroking: just use http://talky.io/ instead
[21:16] <vfw> Quatroking: pkill skype
[21:17] <gac> Quatroking: did you do it through dpkg by hand? or using apt/software center? there's a dependency required for skype tray icons to work in Unity, IIRC
[21:17] <acerspyro> reisio: What tray? Does Skype have any idea that Linux even had a tray?