[14:36] <student> dra|work, should I pastebin my xorg.conf?
[14:36] <EvanR> MAHE: does it have more than one port
[14:36] <MAHE> one usb and 1 ethernet
[14:36] <EvanR> MAHE: sorry no
[14:36] <novato_br> what is the name of software: "http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1763468" ?
[14:36] <peppers> Pici, the 2.6.20 folder doesn't exist in the wacom drivers folder
[14:36] <dra|work> student: Do that.
[14:36] <peppers> only 2.6.9 trough 2.6.19
[14:37] <KenSentMe> MAHE, then you should get a router/switch to connect to the modem through an ethernet cable and then connect both computer on one of the ports
[14:37] <MAHE> So this ethernet cable s useless except for broadband purposes?
[14:37] <MAHE> ok
[14:37] <RoAkSoAx> MAHE, you will need to have a crossover cable then, the only solution unless you buy a router
[14:37] <EvanR> MAHE: most cables are used to connect computers to the switch or the modem
[14:37] <EvanR> MAHE: not to each other directly
[14:37] <MAHE> oh
[14:37] <peppers> so...what should I do?
[14:37] <MAHE> are these cable costlier?>
[14:37] <EvanR> they shouldnt be
[14:37] <EvanR> just not common
[14:38] <MAHE> so why cant they not serve both purposes
[14:38] <MAHE> i mean broaband and direct connection
[14:38] <EvanR> because crossover cables have their wires switched
[14:38] <MAHE> oh ok
[14:38] <EvanR> it has to do with wiring
[14:38] <KenSentMe> MAHE, mostly they arent but you have an internet connection on both pc's if you use a router/switch, so you have a second benefit
[14:38] <student> dra|work, http://pastebin.com/m32f0eaa5
[14:38] <RoAkSoAx> MAHE, when your are connecting 2 different networking devices together, you need the cable you have, but since you want to connect equal networking devices you need a crossover
[14:38] <peppers> herm, anyone?
[14:39] <Pici> peppers: I'm looking
[14:39] <peppers> oh sorry
[14:39] <peppers> I'm just kind of sad it won't work :(
[14:39] <MAHE> Oh..that explains me quite well
[14:39] <arnis> where can i download the opera browser?
[14:39] <EvanR> arnis: synaptic package manager
[14:39] <ikonia> arnis: it is in the ubuntu software repositories
[14:39] <dra|work> student: Could you paste your error log, too?
[14:39] <MAHE> Thanx RoadSoax, EvanR, KenSentMe
[14:40] <Pici> peppers: I can't get my graphire3 to work in Ubuntu either (its a different issue that yours though)
[14:40] <arnis> i go to the synaptic package manager and what there i need to do?
[14:40] <MAHE> u were very kind
[14:40] <MAHE> bye
[14:40] <MAHE> cya
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> no problem MAHE
[14:40] <EvanR> arnis: search for opera
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> bye
[14:40] <Pici> ikonia: Good morning :)
[14:40] <student> dra|work, which error log? Where can I find that?
[14:40] <ikonia> Pici: morining
[14:40] <peppers> ye that sucks :( I may have to update to gutsy
[14:40] <dra|work> student: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:40] <Pici> peppers: I'm not sure if that will help, you may need to do some research first.
[14:41] <arnis> he found something
[14:41] <peppers> I think it's just a lack of kernel support issue.
[14:41] <peppers> maybe it was dumb to update to new kernel
[14:41] <EvanR> arnis: install it
[14:41] <student> dra|work, http://pastebin.com/m3d02ad0f
[14:41] <arnis> how?
[14:41] <Pici> peppers: You had no way of knowing.
[14:41] <arnis> i`m a noob
[14:41] <peppers> ye
[14:41] <EvanR> arnis: make sure its checked, and then click apply
[14:42] <dra|work> student: Ok. You have xserver-xgl installed, right?
[14:42] <Pici> peppers: Although this looks like it might help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=626415&highlight=bamboo
[14:42] <_NiC> I'm doing an upgrade of network-manager, and when it does the "Reloading system message bus config..." I get this error: Failed to open connection to system message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory", followed by "invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action "force-reload" failed.". How can I fix this?
[14:42] <student> dra|work, let me see. sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl?
[14:42] <dra|work> student: No, it is already installed.
[14:42] <peppers> thanks pice, going to take a look
[14:42] <student> dra|work, ok
[14:42] <arnis> and now what?
[14:43] <dra|work> student: Though I think compositing should work on nvidia without xserver-xgl.
[14:43] <EvanR> arnis: if you did that, and it finished, then its installed
[14:43] <arnis> and where is it?
[14:43] <arnis> the opera
[14:43] <dra|work> student: You could try uninstalling it, but no guarantees, of course.
[14:43] <EvanR> arnis: the shortcut to run it is probably in your menu
[14:43] <student> dra|work, it's not installed. I tried it in terminal
[14:43] <student> and it's asking me to install
[14:43] <Pici> !enter
[14:43] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:43] <dra|work> student: Ok.
[14:43] <student> well it's showing under NEW packages
[14:44] <dra|work> student: What's the output of xdpyinfo | grep -i comp?
[14:44] <arnis> there`s no shortcut
[14:44] <student> Composite
[14:44] <student> dra|work, Composite
[14:45] <EvanR> arnis: oh really, well you can run it by tpying opera in your terminal, or pressure alt-f2 then type opera, or make your own shortcut (needs to use command 'opera')
[14:45] <dra|work> student: Ok. What does xdpyinfo | grep -i glx say?
[14:45] <ownlinux> Hi,guys
[14:45] <rosja> hi
[14:45] <student> dra|work, NV-GLX
[14:45] <rosja> how are all?
[14:45] <rosja> hehe
[14:45] <rosja> ss
[14:45] <peppers> Pici, my problem is that in /home/username/Desktop/linuxwacom-*/src/2.* there's no wacom.ko or wacom.o
[14:45] <rosja> oh
[14:45] <rosja> this is bad channel
[14:46] <ownlinux> ?????/
[14:46] <Pici> rosja: This is the Ubuntu Support Channel.
[14:46] <idzied> hi I have just plugged my printer, but cannnot make it work. How do I configure it? No Driver CD :/
[14:46] <dra|work> student: (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension
[14:46] <yubwyub> the subject for this irc-channel have the text "Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads"... so how do I unbreak it? that is, make flash work?
[14:46] <ownlinux> this is good channel
[14:46] <dra|work> student: You could try disabling the "Composite" extension in your xorg.conf.
[14:46] <Pici> yubwyub: You wait until the package is fixed.
[14:46] <dra|work> Is there a specific reason for gtkglextmm not being in the reps?
[14:47] <yubwyub> aha. can I hope it will be fixed before 21 dec?
[14:47] <vasco> l
[14:47] <vasco> l
[14:47] <vasco> l
[14:47] <student> dra|work, I don't see composite anywhere in my xorg.conf
[14:47] <Pici> vasco: stop.
[14:47] <ikonia> yubwyub: people are working very had to create solution
[14:47] <vasco> Pici: stop what?
[14:47] <idzied> cupsd: Child exited with status 1! -- What does this mean?
[14:47] <Pici> vasco: with the 'l's
[14:47] <EvanR> idzied: looks like an error occurred
[14:47] <vasco> Pici: shellup
[14:48] <ikonia> tut tut
[14:48] <Pici> vasco: excuse me?
[14:48] <cyberix> GDM lets me choose from multiple sessions.  My bad. Make a new Section "Extensions". Disable it in there.
[14:49] <idzied> EvanR: a Canon Pixma i1700
[14:49] <student> ok
[14:49] <EvanR> yubwyub: a Canon Pixma i1700
[14:49] <dra|work> student: Beware though that compiz won't work anymore then.
[14:49] <student> dra|work, what's compiz?
[14:49] <dra|work> student: The shiny window manager.
[14:50] <student> ..?
[14:50] <ownlinux> student:??
[14:50] <idzied> EvanR: There are many files starting with cups. Wich is the one to look at?
[14:50] <howlingmadhowie> so if anybody here happened to know anything about GRUB and scsi disks...
[14:50] <EvanR> idzied: something with the word log in it
[14:50] <rosja> omg
[14:50] <yubwyub> howlingmadhowie, probably some at #grub can help if you can't find anyone here. (but the people at #grub are verry slow to answer)
[14:51] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Explain the problem, please...
[14:51] <MAHE> hey people
[14:51] <MAHE> i was just here
[14:51] <howlingmadhowie> yubwyub: okay, i'll look there too :)
[14:51] <EvanR> student: its the fancy graphical interface with spinning cubes etc?
[14:51] <student> oh ok
[14:51] <MAHE> i just wanted to ask..you were talking of a router..i have a dsl modem, is that what u call a router?
[14:51] <student> dra|work, so is this fine? Section "Extensions"
[14:51] <student>         Option    "Composite" "no"
[14:51] <student> EndSection
[14:51] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: well, the installation of ubuntu server edition went fine. but the system doesn't boot. it stops just before the grub menu usually comes up
[14:51] <EvanR> MAHE: no
[14:52] <yubwyub> student, compiz i the thing that makes 3D-window/desktop effects. "the cube"-desktopswitcher etc
[14:52] <peppers> Pici, good news! I had done something wrong. wacom.o is there now :D
[14:52] <ikonia> MAHE: thats a dsl modem, but it does manage your traffic
[14:52] <Pici> peppers: yay.
[14:52] <dra|work> student: Yes. If you have the guts, try restarting X.
[14:52] <student> oh o
[14:52] <student> ohk*
[14:52] <MAHE> so can  use it for connecting 2 pc's?
[14:52] <peppers> I'll let you know if it works
[14:52] <ikonia> MAHE: not really no
[14:52] <student> dra|work, I can always go back to normal right? by deleting those lines?
[14:52] <EvanR> MAHE: a switch connects your computers together into a network, a router may do the same thing but provide a firewall
[14:52] <dra|work> student: Yes.
[14:52] <MAHE> not no?
[14:52] <student> kk
[14:52] <MAHE> means yes!!>???
[14:52] <student> brb
[14:52] <ikonia> MAHE: no, you can't
[14:53] <EvanR> MAHE: a modem only allows you a connection over the phone line
[14:53] <MAHE> no
[14:53] <MAHE> it is a dsl modem
[14:53] <MAHE> not a dialup
[14:53] <EvanR> same thing
[14:53] <ikonia> MAHE: it doesn't matter, it will not do what you want
[14:53] <EvanR> dsl uses the phone line its just higher tech
[14:53] <MAHE> but my modem has 2 conections-ethernet and usb
[14:53] <EvanR> its not a router or switch
[14:53] <MAHE> can i connect one of the pc's to 1 and other to ??
[14:53] <ikonia> MAHE: I'll say it one last time "it will not do what you want"
[14:53] <MAHE> ok ikonia
[14:54] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Is there some anti-virus or MBR boot sector protection in the BIOS?
[14:55] <ikonia> nicoAMG: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:55] <student> dra|work, back
[14:55] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: erm, i don't think so. it's a pretty old pc (pentium II)
[14:55] <nicoAMG> ikonia: What thing?
[14:55] <ikonia> nicoAMG: bios protection
[14:55] <alexborsova> ikonia: hello
[14:56] <ikonia> alexborsova: ahh hello
[14:56] <ikonia> alexborsova: your cpu timing issue is quite awkward
[14:56] <idzied> EvanR: Found some dirvers for the printer, i hope they are gonna work
[14:56] <Zyelar> Can anyone recommend an irc client that has autojoin (on invite) or options to execute commands on connecting to network?
[14:56] <alexborsova> ikonia: yes, tell me about it
[14:56] <student> dra|work, is there any command to check if it worked?
[14:56] <EvanR> Zyelar: pretty much any of them do that, xchat or konversation?
[14:56] <Pici> Zyelar: most irc clients have that, xchat, irssi.... etc.
[14:56] <ikonia> alexborsova: most of the research I found last night for your case pointed towards either power managment or overclocking, and you've not overclocked and you can't disable power managment
[14:56] <alexborsova> ikonia: do you think there's anything I can do to make Ubuntu work on my laptop?
[14:56] <Zyelar> I'm using Xchat but i cant seem to find these features :)
[14:57] <EvanR> Zyelar: #xchat
[14:57] <alexborsova> ikonia: I'm not overclocking
[14:57] <dra|work> student: glxinfo | grep vendor
[14:57] <ikonia> alexborsova: is the problem only happening with your install or does it happen on the livecd too (I can't remember)
[14:57] <student> dra|work, server glx vendor string: SGI
[14:57] <student> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[14:57] <student> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[14:57] <alexborsova> ikonia: the live cd works only if I use the vga=771 option
[14:57] <dra|work> student: glxgears
[14:57] <Pici> Zyelar: The normal xchat package has a field for channels you join on connect on the servers window.
[14:57] <ikonia> alexborsova: oooh, thats interesting
[14:57] <Zyelar> Pici, ok thank you. I'll keep on looking on this.
[14:57] <student> dra|work, it goes smooth for a couple of seconds and then gets choppy
[14:58] <alexborsova> ikonia: I think I tiold you, if I use the (recovery mode) ffrom grub, I can type "startx" and that works
[14:58] <MAHE> hey people plz forgive me...but my dsl modem is a router
[14:58] <student> dra|work, 23466 frames in 6.1 seconds = 3868.257 FPS
[14:58] <student> 4746 frames in 5.1 seconds = 931.342 FPS
[14:58] <student> 4746 frames in 5.1 seconds = 929.501 FPS
[14:58] <alexborsova> *told
[14:58] <MAHE> it says on its cover
[14:58] <dra|work> student: The choppiness doesn't matter.
[14:58] <kleftisx> is there any way to improve fonts appearance in Gusty?
[14:58] <MAHE> adsl 2 + router
[14:58] <alexborsova> ikonia: but when I use the default option that comes up in syslog and I get a blank screen
[14:58] <nicoAMG> ikonia, ahh, this not applies to SCSI disks, just for IDE ones...
[14:58] <alexborsova> !ro
[14:58] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[14:58] <ikonia> alexborsova: what happens if you do that on that on your install
[14:58] <Pici> MAHE: Can you please not use your enter key as punctuation, it makes it very hard to keep up.
[14:58] <alexborsova> ikonia: what?
[14:58] <MAHE> you may check the model--dlink glb 502t router
[14:58] <MAHE> ok pici
[14:59] <dra|work> student: What card do you have?
[14:59] <pegasus> ikonia hey [/me is ipiz] :)
[14:59] <alexborsova> ikonia: I was talking aobut my install
[14:59] <yubwyub> when I started ubuntu today I got an error message (that translate to english would be "Error in CUPS-server"  "There was a error at CUPS-opertaion "server-error-service-unavailable"."   if I understand right CUPS is the part of ubuntu that handles printing, but why do I get that error message when I start the computer? (I don't try to print automaticly at system start...)
[14:59] <ikonia> alexborsova: can you apply vga= options to you install
[14:59] <student> dra|work, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro] (rev a4)
[14:59] <alexborsova> ikonia: yes, it doesn't help
[14:59] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: at boot time the GRUB menu appears on screen or not?
[14:59] <ikonia> alexborsova: didn't think so, it was a long shot
[14:59] <alexborsova> ikonia: I don't think the problem is with xserver
[14:59] <ikonia> alexborsova: as a die issue have you tried googling your exact tablet model number and "linux"
[14:59] <alexborsova> ikonia: or with gdm
[14:59] <MAHE> but ikonia...u said that my dsl modem is not a router, turns out that it is
[14:59] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: nope, it doesn't get that far. it just displays one word: "GRUB " and then stops
[15:00] <lamalex> gksu and gksudo are broken on my gutsy install
[15:00] <ikonia> alexborsova: just to see if anything is known running on it
[15:00] <alexborsova> ikonia: yes, all that comes up is product results from google
[15:00] <ikonia> MAHE: a dsl modem is not a router
[15:00] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: so the MBR is being found, but the MBR can't find the partitions
[15:00] <student> dra|work, is there still something wrong?
[15:00] <ikonia> alexborsova: anything related to linux
[15:00] <MAHE> it says so
[15:00] <dra|work> student: Ok, then it seems to work. Having such an ancient card would also explain why compositing won't work together with GLX.
[15:00] <ikonia> MAHE: then it's not a modem
[15:00] <dra|work> student: Nah, seems all right.
[15:00] <student> oh
[15:00] <student> alright thanks a lot
[15:00] <dra|work> No problem.
[15:00] <MAHE> it says ADSL 2 + Router
[15:00] <ikonia> MAHE: then it's a router - not a modem
[15:00] <arnis> i downloaded opera browser. how do i install it?
[15:01] <lamalex> it says this when I enable debuggin (-d): No password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password.
[15:01] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Hmm, or GRUB installation was unsucessful..
[15:01] <MAHE> i use it to connect to internet also
[15:01] <ikonia> arnis: you don't you get it from the ubuntu software repositories
[15:01] <yubwyub> or should I report the error-message as a bug at the bugreporting-webpage? (so it will be fixed to next version of ubuntu... horny hamster......)
[15:01] <poningru_> !opera |  arnis
[15:01] <ubotu> arnis: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[15:01] <pegasus> MAHE It's a router with built-in modem
[15:01] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: maybe... but i really don't want to go there...
[15:01] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: How old is the SCSI disk on the system?
[15:01] <lamalex> arnis: did you download the .deb?
[15:01] <MAHE> well pegasus?
[15:01] <ikonia> MAHE: what do you actually want ?
[15:02] <arnis> yes .deb
[15:02] <MAHE> i want to connect my laptop and pc using ethernet cable, usb and adsl 2 + router
[15:02] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: maybe 8 years. using a rescue cd i can mount it and stuff and it works fine, however
[15:02] <kleftisx> hello, is there any way to improve fonts appearance in Gusty?
[15:02] <MAHE> how can i?
[15:02] <ikonia> MAHE: speak to your router vendor, that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:02] <arnis> lamalex, yes .deb
[15:02] <ikonia> arnis: open synaptic, search for opera and click install
[15:02] <pegasus> MAHE It should work out of the box, router is platform-independent.
[15:02] <ikonia> !synaptic > arnis
[15:02] <BB88> Anybody know why ubuntu starts up with maximum connection to my wireless, then drops to around 10%.
[15:03] <ikonia> pegasus: It may not support both usb and ethernet
[15:03] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Then disk partitions are o.k....
[15:03] <Pici> kleftisx: you can modify the font antialiasing in System>Preferences>Appearance>Fonts
[15:03] <lamalex> arnis: just double click the deb and gdebi will open, click install
[15:03] <pegasus> ikonia He's talking about plugging a machine in rj45 port, with rj45 cable.
[15:03] <ikonia> lamalex: no - don't advise external package, opera is in the repo's suggest that
[15:03] <ikonia> pegasus: and one into usb at the same time
[15:03] <bazhang> kleftisx: install msstcorefonts
[15:03] <lamalex> ikonia: the package has a bug, flash doesn't work
[15:03] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: oh hang on, i've found something about lba mode in scsi cards being problematic...
[15:03] <ikonia> lamalex: thats not a bug, flash install package has a bug that is being resolved
[15:04] <Pici> lamalex: see topic
[15:04] <ikonia> lamalex: thats nothing to do with opera
[15:04] <kleftisx> bazhang: how to install them?
[15:04] <lamalex> ikonia: with the the latest opera beta, the problem is resolved
[15:04] <arnis> i have ubuntu 5.10
[15:04] <lamalex> ha oh
[15:04] <ikonia> lamalex: no it's not as the flash package will still not download and install
[15:04] <Pici> arnis: 5.10 is no longer supported.
[15:04] <Pici> !5.10 | arnis
[15:04] <ubotu> arnis: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[15:04] <arnis>  :(
[15:05] <arnis> where can i update?
[15:05] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Search for file /boot/grub/menu.lst... Whats your partition layout?
[15:05] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: grub isn't getting far enough to read it.
[15:05] <lamalex> so can anyone help me with broken gksu and gksudo?
[15:05] <arnis> is it possible to update my ubuntu 5.10 ??
[15:05] <Pici> arnis: You can update, but I highly suggest just backing up and installing a more recent version.  We do not support upgrading without going through every inbetween version.
[15:06] <arnis> ouu
[15:06] <wers> how do I make my desktop icons larger?
[15:06] <wers> i mean, selected icons only
[15:06] <Pici> lamalex: Whats broken about it?
[15:06] <bazhang> kleftisx: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? I believe they are in that package--need to enable partner repos for that
[15:06] <pegasus> wers scretch the icons.
[15:06] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: and as far as i know, it's okay as well :)
[15:06] <wers> pegasus, how do i do that?
[15:06] <lamalex> Pici: it never prompts me for my password, so any app that asks for it never launches
[15:07] <wers> oooh
[15:07] <wers> got it
[15:07] <wers> :)
[15:07] <lamalex> Pici: it says this when I enable debuggin (-d): No password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password.
[15:07] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: okay, let's see if it works now :)
[15:07] <pegasus> wers right-click the icon > scretch icon.
[15:07] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: You can use the Ubuntu Install CD to recovery the system
[15:07] <kleftisx> bazhang: i have it installed
[15:07] <gaelik>
[15:07] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: that's what i'm doing :)
[15:07] <Pici> lamalex: What version of Ubuntu are you running? And have you installed any non-ubuntu packages? automatix?
[15:07] <gaelik> Hi:)
[15:07] <gaelik> Searching for wisdom i am
[15:08] <Pici> gaelik: found Ubuntu Support channel you have.
[15:08] <lamalex> Pici: nope
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici: Good Morning (for Me anyhow)
[15:08] <lamalex> Pici: 7.10
[15:08] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: you too.
[15:08] <gaelik> hehehe
[15:08] <bazhang> kleftisx: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[15:08] <yubwyub> Pici, about updating, there should be support in the long-time-support -versions of ubuntu to update directly between them, right?
[15:08] <Pici> lamalex: Have you unlocked the root account? and is your user in the admin group?
[15:09] <Pici> yubwyub: Yes, Hardy is being designed to allow an upgrade straight from Dapper.
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: What sort of wisdom do you seek
[15:09] <kleftisx> bazhang: already installed to newer version
[15:09] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: yuh-huh! it works! it was some stupid bios setting in the scsi card :)
[15:09] <cyrano> yubwyub: you can't skip versions when upgrading
[15:09] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Using the recovery option, you can access the root filesystem, change the GRUB's configuration file, regenerate device map and reinstall GRUB at MBR
[15:09] <gaelik> ......my boss.....
[15:09] <bazhang> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/300-easily-installed-free-fonts-for-ubuntu/ kleftisx
[15:09] <gaelik> come back in a sec
[15:09] <Pici> cyrano: The plan is to allow upgrades from one LTS to another without using the intermediate releaes.
[15:10] <gaelik> thanks jack and pici
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> cyrano: Not so far but the plan is to be able to go from lts to lts versions
[15:10] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Good!
[15:10] <bazhang> kleftisx: that should satisfy you (hopefully) :}
[15:10] <cyrano> ah. thats good
[15:10] <ajay_> how to configure ati Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge?
[15:10] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: The system is booting up now?
[15:10] <cyrano> Jack_Sparrow: for Hardy allready? or after hardy and in the future?
[15:10] <Pici> cyrano: Hardy is LTS, just like 6.06 was.
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> cyrano: from dapper to Hardy
[15:11] <cyrano> good news
[15:11] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: so if anybody asks again, tell them to have a look at the scsi-card bios settings :) it's now booted :) here a fitting comment: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html#q14
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> cyrano: THere are some issues to deal with.. and they are being delt with at a level far far above me.
[15:12] <ajay_> how to configure ati Radeon Xpress 200 Host Bridge?
[15:12] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: alright, thanks.
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> ajay_: Please be patient.. not many have a clue about what you want to do.. and repeating will just get ou ignored
[15:12] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: i'll write a reply to some bug-reports as well, because nobody seems to have looked for that
[15:13] <ajay_> k
[15:13] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know whether there are plans in Ubuntu to drop APT and adopt Conary?
[15:13] <ikonia> livingdaylight: there is not
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: nope
[15:13] <livingdaylight> heh
[15:13] <livingdaylight> why not?
[15:13] <ikonia> livingdaylight: why ?
[15:13] <ikonia> livingdaylight: there is no plans - so it doesn't matter
[15:13] <livingdaylight> Conary is superior to APT
[15:14] <crush_groove> what does lsof actually display ?
[15:14] <ikonia> livingdaylight: thats your opionion, which your welcome to
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: This is not a place for that discussion..  sorry.. this is the delp desk
[15:14] <ikonia> crush_groove: "list open files"
[15:14] <livingdaylight> ikonia, sorry, i thought it was a well-known fact
[15:14] <ikonia> livingdaylight: no, it's not. It's your opinion only
[15:14] <nicoAMG> howlingmadhowie: Was about INT 13 extension at SCSI BIOS?
[15:15] <Pici> livingdaylight: If you want to discuss Hardy, you can join us in #ubuntu+1
[15:15] <livingdaylight> ikonia, not just mine.... a lot of people say it is a fact
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> livingdaylight: If something does PROVE to be superior, they will certainly look at using it.  That good enough..
[15:15] <howlingmadhowie> nicoAMG: exactly
[15:15] <ikonia> livingdaylight: more so it's not - so by your logic your wrong
[15:15] <crdlb> livingdaylight: this is a support channel
[15:15] <amd007> anybody help me for configuring giFT
[15:15] <crush_groove>  ty ikonia  .. what would be some reasons Id be lookin in there ikonia ? because the list is huge
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | livingdaylight
[15:15] <ubotu> livingdaylight: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:15] <ikonia> crush_groove: I don't actually know what your trying to do, if you explain I can help
[15:15] <bazhang> come to #offtopic livingdaylight :}
[15:16] <crush_groove> ikonia,  Im just learning . trying to sort in my mind this particular command . I have no real issue atm
[15:16] <ikonia> crush_groove: ok, well basiclly it lists files that are "open" (in use) on the system
[15:16] <cocox> how could i now wich compiler do i have installed????
[15:16] <cocox> c compiler
[15:17] <ikonia> gcc -v ?
[15:17] <ikonia> cc -v
[15:17] <cocox> neither gcc or cc are found
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cocox: You can look in synaptic  or get a list of installed packages and find it in there.. or you can tell us what you are trying to do or compile
[15:17] <lamalex> Pici: yes
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[15:18] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:18] <lamalex> Pici: root in enabled and my user has admin priveleges
[15:18] <lamalex> s/in/is
[15:18] <cocox> Jack_Sparrow , ikonia im trying to see if i have a compiler installed for compile C code
[15:18] <ikonia> cocox: cc -v
[15:19] <MAHE> hey ikonia
[15:19] <cocox> ikonia, allright its done! thank you
[15:19] <ikonia> cocox: no problem
[15:19] <ikonia> MAHE: what ?
[15:19] <MAHE> can u tell me how to connect the pc's thru a router in ubuntu?>
[15:19] <MAHE> in brief?
[15:20] <MAHE> i ve a router..believe me?
[15:20] <ikonia> MAHE: no, as it's nothing to do with ubuntu, you need to speak to your router vendor as I said earlier
[15:20] <MAHE> ok ok
[15:20] <MAHE> thanks anyway
[15:20] <MAHE> bye
[15:20] <Pici> MAHE: Once you get both plugged into the router and they can both see the internet, then we can talk.
[15:21] <frojnd> how can I scan for a wifi card if its working ?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: MInd if I pm for a sec
[15:22] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[15:22] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: any time
[15:22] <lamalex> Pici: any idea? It isn't a show stopper, it's just annoying to have to open up the command line for anything administrative
[15:22] <frojnd> how can I scan for a wifi card if its working ? So I can see what interface do I use
[15:23] <amd007> anybody help me for configuring giFT
[15:24] <pegasus> frojnd Mostly like, it'll use wlan0, if you have one wireless connection.
[15:24] <babajaid> I have a problem with my system. It just stops working after I start open arena game
[15:24] <bulmer> frojnd-> iwconfig will normally tell you which interface is wireless
[15:24] <xal2> hi
[15:25] <xal2> i'm using ubuntu gutsy and i've installed emerald. How do I activate a theme from the emerald theme manager?
[15:25] <bazhang> hi xal2
[15:25] <frojnd> bulmer, yes, I was looking for that one
[15:25] <Pici> lamalex: Something big just came up at work, sorry (medical interfaces are down), need to work on that and not here, sorry.
[15:26] <xal2> the new window borders don't show up in appearances and there is no option to apply a theme in emerald
[15:26] <ne0h> ciao
[15:26] <poeloq> hey. Anybody know if is possible to share a Windows desktop with Ubuntu without the other person having to log off - i.e. working on one screen at the same time.
[15:27] <cyrano> hi. hope someone can help me. on virtualbox i rund a gutsy guest on a gutsy host, but i have big problems with the screen resolution. Can't get more than 800x600 on the gutsy VM.
[15:27] <bazhang> virtualbox perhaps poeloq
[15:28] <ne0h> i have a pc with amd processor and nvidia graphic card, can i install on it mac osx tiger or leopard?!
[15:28] <bulmer> poeloq-> even if you have both windows on separate pc's, can you allow both log on? umm like timbuktu?
[15:28] <threefcata> how can i run a command but 'delayed'?
[15:29] <threefcata> say i want to run a command 5 mins from now
[15:29] <peppers> is pici gone now?
[15:29] <bulmer> ne0h-> i dont know, but once you succeed can you write a wiki or tutorial for it?
[15:29] <bazhang> ne0h: no--if you mean the non-sanctioned osx
[15:29] <YanchoAWY> how to check empty space on a disk ?
[15:29] <bulmer> YanchoAWY-> man df
[15:29] <nicoAMG> ne0h: :D
[15:29] <YanchoAWY> thanks bulmermer
[15:30] <ne0h> @bulmer ok. i try the installation, when i've finished download and then i write a guide if i do.
[15:30] <threefcata> how do i let a command to wait 5 minutes before it runs?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !cron
[15:30] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[15:30] <cole> hi all, can anyone tell me the command to mount a iso on cdrom?
[15:30] <SpookyET> Is AIGLX available in the latest fglrx drivers?
[15:31] <bulmer> ne0h-> we wish you good luck, am interested and curious too
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cole: Start by making a mount point... sudo mkdir /media/knoppix sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/jack/Desktop/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso /media/knoppix
[15:31] <sn0> yes SpookyET
[15:31] <ne0h> @bulmer  i hope! i want macosx on my pc!
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cole: just an example
[15:31] <sn0> since 2 or 3 versions now
[15:31] <FLUxXxX> hello! i'm trying to install the video driver for ati radeon xpress 1100 on ubuntu 7.10. is there a howto guide somewhere that REALLY WORKS?
[15:31] <ne0h> i've found some iso patched for amd
[15:31] <FLUxXxX> i want compiz-fusion to work
[15:31] <FLUxXxX> please
[15:31] <FLUxXxX> anyone knows?
[15:31] <Myrtti> dinkle: root?
[15:32] <cole> thanx for that ack
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | FLUxXxX
[15:32] <ubotu> FLUxXxX: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:32] <cole> *ack
[15:32] <nicoAMG> ne0h: You can go to http://www.osx86project.org
[15:32] <ne0h> @fluxxx 'have you got ubuntu gutsy?!
[15:32] <FLUxXxX> yes
[15:32] <cole> Jack
[15:32] <SpookyET> sn0: can you link me to an article that shows you how to get desktop effects to work using AIGLX please?
[15:32] <bazhang> FLUxXxX: there is a special channel for that; want a link?
[15:32] <ne0h> thank you nico. i'll look your link
[15:32] <FLUxXxX> yes bazhang
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> FLUxXxX: We have a link that covers ati.. but if you have tried lots of other things first, it could compound the problem
[15:33] <sn0> SpookyET that will mean installing a newer version of the fglrx driver, than gutsy includes. You can either do this manually or using a tool like "envy", none ar esupported in here really :<
[15:33] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion FLUxXxX
[15:33] <xal2> how do i enable an emerald theme?
[15:33] <guyvdb_> Hi, I am running 7.10. I want to by a 802.11g PCI card for my machine. What chipsets to stay away from? What chipsets to buy?
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> sn0: ENVY is a terrible idea,,,
[15:33] <sn0> guyvdb_ check the ubuntu wiki/help site for supported network chipsets.
[15:33] <FLUxXxX> Jack_Sparrow, i just got the laptop today and just finished installing ubuntu 7.10 like 5 mins ago. haven't tried anything yet
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware | guyvdb_
[15:33] <ubotu> guyvdb_: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:34] <guyvdb_> sn0: thx
[15:34] <SpookyET> sn0: Nor is the driver that comes with Ubuntu for that matter. Again, could you link me please.
[15:34] <sn0> Jack_Sparrow so is manually installing the fglrx drivers, there is no better method at the moment unless backporting fglrx?
[15:34] <FLUxXxX> but i remember 5 months ago i tried to install the ati driver and didn't work but i followed like 5 guides and none worked.
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati | FLUxXxX
[15:34] <ubotu> FLUxXxX: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:34] <FLUxXxX> thanks
[15:34] <cocox> i dont understand what is the difference between cc or gcc???
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> cocox: THis is not the place for that discussion....  they have channels as well
[15:35] <sn0> SpookyET while its not recommended, if you really want aiglx with the fglrx drivers, something like: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3616047 but i believe there is a newer version (7.11) since
[15:36] <cocox> all rigth!
[15:37] <giulio> i have a ibm thinkpad t20 with a Xircom Mini-PCI V.90 56k Modem, how can i make it work with 7.10?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: You want to get it going for dialup?
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[15:38] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: yes, now i am using ethernet, but the owner live in a place without adsl
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS It should show up as ttyS5 Test in terminal sudo screen /dev/ttyS5
[15:39] <ne0h> @bulmer, nico give a link, ancd in this i've read that the amd 64 3500 is supported (mine) and all components of my pc. The osx version is 10.4.8, not leopard!
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: Your ttys x  will be differsnt
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: I happen to have a similar xircom here...  10-100-56k
[15:40] <bulmer> ne0h-> thanks for the fyi..i never owned a real mac anyways but am always curious..
[15:41] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: dmesg tells me 00:0c: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A that should be the serial port
[15:41] <orionr> I installed AWN but for someone reason when i click on the item othing happends and it does not load.
[15:41] <dfgas> how do i turn my desktop effects on?
[15:41]  * orionr somereasons
[15:42] <abuk> what does program burn images .uif in cd? (on ubuntu)
[15:42] <protobion> Q: Why doesnt Ubuntu display correct/optimal resolutions when I connect it to different monitors or projectors?
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: Test in terminal sudo screen /dev/ttyS0                but I dont hink it will be.. that looks like std external serial port
[15:42] <ne0h> as me
[15:42] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: i obtain a blank screen....
[15:43] <anas> i have just installed ubuntu 7.10 ,How can i make sure that my installtion was ok ?
[15:43] <strabes> does anyone have the nvidia geforce go 7900 GS?
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: type atz
[15:43] <protobion> strabes: No, I have the nVidia GeForce Go 7400 from the same series.
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: followed by enter of course
[15:43] <anas>  i have just installed ubuntu 7.10 ,How can i make sure that my installtion was ok ?
[15:44] <Pici> anas: Log in?
[15:44] <bazhang> anas: any special problems to report?
[15:44] <strabes> protobion: how does it work? Are you using the restricted drivers? Suspend/hibernate?
[15:44] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: i tried to type atz in screen, but i see nothing, btw i dont know screen
[15:45] <strabes> protobion: I made the mistake of getting the ATI mobility x1400 and i'm trying to decide if switching the card is worth $360
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: Then that isnt the right port            Use ctrl-A then K to kill the modem terminal
[15:45] <anas> there was a massege while installing about secrity updates . my brother installed it and he told me that ? what should i do ??
[15:46] <strabes> anas: did you install them?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> anas: Should be fine.... It normally updates after an install
[15:46] <bazhang> anas: unless you tell us the message there is not much to be done
[15:46] <protobion> strabes: It works fine, yes I am using restricted drivers, suspend/hibernate is ok. The only problem is that it has a hard time getting correct resolutions for different monitors that I connect to it. But this problem was there even when I was using the unrestricted drivers, so I dont believe it to be related to the card.
[15:46] <strabes> protobion: probably an ubuntu problem huh
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: from terminal type lspci and look for the modem
[15:47] <protobion> strabes: Perhaps , the legendary multiple monitor, xorg.conf issues.
[15:47] <anas> i dont know the massege was a error message i don't know what it was .
[15:47] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: 00:03.1 Serial controller: Xircom Mini-PCI V.90 56k Modem
[15:47] <strabes> right
[15:47] <Aaron> does gusty have a firewall.... my downloader keeps telling me im behind 1 and ide like to exception this program
[15:47] <anas> should i reinstall it ?
[15:48] <bazhang> anas: unless you have some serious problems no
[15:48] <Pici> anas: If you can't provide us with what the window said, we can't really help you.  Chances are you will get the same message if you reinstall.
[15:48] <protobion> strabes: Why do you consider the ATI mobility a mistake?
[15:48] <protobion> strabes: out of curiosity...
[15:49] <crush_groove> how do I change my resolution in 6.06
[15:49] <giulio> Jack_Sparrow: should i try to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-386?
[15:49] <FLUxXxX> hey i have a problem with my acer notebook!!!! just installed ubuntu 7.10 and it doesn't show anything just a black screen from grub menu to GDM
[15:49] <FLUxXxX> why? what can i do?
[15:49] <FLUxXxX> to see that usplash whatever? pls
[15:49] <anas> is there a way to make sure that there is no problem with the system ?????
[15:49] <Aaron> is there any special reason for my desktop going back to a 52 Refresh Rate every time i run WoW?
[15:49] <strabes> protobion: really bad 3d performance, ATI's attitude towards linux, artifacts on the screen, no suspend/hibernate, etc
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> giulio: see if this finds your modem..   sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf           it may not find wvdial either
[15:50] <strabes> protobion: they only got AIGLX support about 2 months ago; ridiculous
[15:50] <bazhang> anas: outside of providing specific information or encountering serious problems, likely no--this is not windows :}
[15:50] <strabes> protobion: but it's still really buggy; firefox lags like crazy w/ compiz enabled
[15:50] <gaelik> hi again
[15:51] <strabes> protobion: it's almost like a joke. like "ha ha we're going to 'provide' linux 'drivers'"
[15:51] <strabes> but not really
[15:51] <protobion> strabes: Makes me wonder, the iMac uses ATI Mobility Radeon cards as well , and they seem to run well there
[15:51] <gaelik> im having some troubles with the install of the flash player
[15:51] <Aaron> why does my computer set back to 52 Refresh rate any time i open WoW? im on gusty
[15:51] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: see the channel topic.. it is broke
[15:51] <strabes> protobion: yeah, but those aren't running ubuntu
[15:51] <bazhang> gaelik: there are some flash issues right now for many
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !re[eat | Aaron
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about re[eat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat | Aaron
[15:52] <ubotu> Aaron: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:52] <godzirra> !patience
[15:52] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:52] <gaelik> the link is broken?
[15:52] <Pici> gaelik: The package is broken in the way that it checks the security of the downloaded file.
[15:52] <miked> why is imap performance so poor with evolution 2.12?
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: yep  I can give you a work around...  just not sure that it wont bite you later...
[15:52] <protobion> strabes: But it should exactly be difficult for them to code for Linux if they can code for BSD. It's a palicy thing, like you suggest.
[15:52] <theLichKing> i put in a DVD in the drive, but it doesn't show up.. what can i do to try to fix it?
[15:52] <kitche> Aaron: more of a questionf or Wow then ubuntu really
[15:53] <protobion> strabes: *policy
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: The workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal.
[15:53] <gaelik> ok...
[15:53] <gaelik> ok
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_i386.deb
[15:53] <kitche> profanephobia: MacOSX is not BSD it's a hybrid system so they are not coding for BSD they are coding for Mac
[15:53] <strabes> protobion: That just makes it worse. They obviously do not care about linux at all. They only started doing ANYTHING after they were bought by AMD.
[15:53] <gaelik> i will remove it
[15:54] <magnetron> !dvd > theLichKing    (read message from ubotu)
[15:54] <profanephobia> kitche, huh?
[15:54] <strabes> protobion: and the drivers are still trash; i'm using mesa right now because fglrx is unusably buggy
[15:54] <gaelik> ok.
[15:54] <Soyporti> anyone knows how to fix the low brightness on screen bug on a gateway laptop?
[15:54] <gaelik> im wonna trye
[15:54] <kitche> profanephobia: exactly what I said MacOSX is not really a BSD system anymore
[15:54] <cheeby> hi.  in ubuntu how can I show all open programs?  in kde I can do it by middle-mouse click on the open desktop.
[15:54] <theLichKing> magnetron: it's a video DVD
[15:54] <gaelik> thanks buddies
[15:54] <theLichKing> it's a data dvd
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:54] <gaelik> ....ah....
[15:54] <protobion> So back to my original question, does anyone know how to make Ubuntu more intelligent with respect to multiple monitors, it's rather pointless to use it for me if I can't use it on presentations and edit xorg.conf for every projector I connect to it.
[15:55] <profanephobia> kitche, but why are you telling me this?
[15:55] <kitche> profanephobia: wrong nickname
[15:55] <gaelik> another thing....how can i activate the 3d acceleration
[15:55] <profanephobia> kitche, oh k
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> protobion: Then dont use it until it works for your purposes..
[15:55] <ShredZ> is there a program I can bind to a key in X to quickly switch between keyboard layouts ?
[15:55] <magnetron> theLichKing: yes. read the link ubotu messaged you in the private message
[15:55] <strabes> protobion: are you using gutsy? Do you use the Screens and Graphics Manager under System > Administration?
[15:55] <kitche> protobion: MacOSX is not BSD anymore so in esscence it's not BSD drivers it's Mac drivers
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: enable the restricted drivers
[15:56] <protobion> strabes: Yes and yes respectively.
[15:56] <miked> can anyone suggest a graphical mail client that can handle imap quickly? im sick of this evolution garbage
[15:56] <strabes> ShredZ: You have to put something in your xorg.conf; google for something like "left alt + shift keyboard layout ubuntu"
[15:56] <gaelik> ok jack
[15:56] <gaelik> let me see...
[15:56] <malahal> miked, thundebird?
[15:56] <miked> its not that great either
[15:56] <strabes> protobion: and it doesn't work? not much of a surprise; projectors are a pain
[15:56] <malahal> miked, i never used it though...
[15:57] <miked> are those the only two available?
[15:57] <miked> seems like it
[15:57] <peterpan_> i am using kubuntu. i cant setup my tv tuner. alpha tv tuner. i went to linuxtv.com and installled the dvb . i used kdetv and mythtv. i cant make it work. any help?
[15:57] <phyz> miked, if you're looking for outlook sort of "quality" i haven't found it either
[15:57] <malahal> miked, maybe kmail..
[15:57] <protobion> Jack_Sparrow: Thank you, for the "Patient : Doctor my shoulder hurts when I raise my arm... Doc: Then don't raise your arm" answer
[15:57] <magnetron> miked: search for "mail" in applications > add/remove
[15:57] <gaelik> .....i get a mesage that says something like "your computer do not need restricted drivers"
[15:58] <protobion> kitche: Point noted.
[15:58] <Marfi> hey yall, im converting some music, and the file extension is *.OGG.ogg. how can i rename them with the mv command to *.OGG? im trying to use mv *.OGG.ogg *.OGG  , but that doesn't work
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> phyz: Using the term QUALITY and OUTLOOK in the same sentence...  that is really wrong
[15:58] <protobion> strabes: Oh well.
[15:58] <miked> i had debugging turned on in evolution (forgot the syntax) and it always ran into errors causing slow downs in message retreival
[15:58] <Marfi> Jack_Sparrow!!!
[15:58] <phyz> Jack_Sparrow, i put quotes around it...
[15:58]  * Marfi waves
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> protobion: This is a help channel.. not a discussion channel.. please take it to offtopic
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Marfi
[15:59] <gaelik> so....if im not suposed to ned them...
[15:59] <gvsa123> Marfi: have you tried gwenrename?
[15:59] <gaelik> need
[15:59] <zitsep> hi!
[15:59] <nano__> here I sit, broken hearted
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: what video card do you have in there?
[15:59] <Marfi> gvsa123, nope, but gonna. =)
[15:59] <zitsep> how can i set up wireless networking to connect my network (linksys) by default?
[16:00] <zitsep> (i forgot)
[16:00] <gaelik> intel 845
[16:00] <gaelik> maybe i shoud buy another one.
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: You should just be able to turn on effects in appearance
[16:00] <nano__> maybe
[16:00] <livingdaylight> Ubunteros! can any of you tell me what is difference between Desktop applet and beagle?
[16:00] <pteague_work> ok, this isn't good... thunderbird is eating up 99% cpu, 2% mem, & isn't letting me do anything
[16:00] <livingdaylight> why is beagle still not installed by default in gutsy? is it still not considered stable?
[16:01] <gaelik> .....
[16:01] <gaelik> i got some nice efects on the windows and stuff...
[16:01] <Pici> livingdaylight: Because Tracker is installed by default.
[16:01] <gaelik> but i cant run 3d opengl progs.
[16:01] <livingdaylight> Pici, can jew explain more?
[16:02] <gaelik> like compiz-fusion and all that jazz
[16:02] <livingdaylight> Pici, tracker is like beagle??
[16:02] <kitche> livingdaylight: probably because they don't want to install mono by default?
[16:02] <Pici> livingdaylight: Excuse me????
[16:02] <zitsep> gaelik: do you speek cymraeg or some gaelic language?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: HAve you tried turning off effects before running those..
[16:02] <livingdaylight> beagle = mono?
[16:02] <peterpan_> - iam new. i just know i have alpha tv tuner card.
[16:02] <gaelik> not yet
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik: Just a thought... worth trying
[16:02] <zitsep> gaelik: are you learning?
[16:03] <FLUxXxX> i have an ati radeon 1100 card. i;ve enabled the restricted driver, installed xserver-xgl and the desktop effects work. but if i type in a terminal glxinfo, i see direct rendering: NO! what can i do?
[16:03] <gaelik> nope.
[16:03] <Pici> livingdaylight: First of all, that slang is not acceptable here.  Second of all Beagle is an indexer for searching so is Tracker. Theres no reason to have both.
[16:03] <zitsep> gaelik: ok
[16:03] <zitsep> gaelik: why is this your name then?
[16:03] <giulio_> Jack_Sparrow: i have downloaded the restricted driver, now i reboot and i will try. Thank you!
[16:03] <kitche> livingdaylight: beagle needs mono to run it's written in C#
[16:03] <gaelik> i'll start in a couple of months
[16:03] <malahal> I don't have a blank CD. What is the next easiest way to install Ubuntu? I tried liveCD->liveUSB that didn't work. The syslinux said, Couldn't not find kernel: /casper/.vml...
[16:03] <zitsep> gaelik: i see! where will you learn?
[16:03] <frojnd> For wlan-ng and orinoco_cs     based nics, monitor mode is entered automatically when the ’Start’ button     is clicked to initiate a capture session. Other card types must be put     into monitor mode outside of airsnort, prior to clicking Start.  Well I have other card broadcom and how can I put my card into monitor outside the arisnort ??
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> zitsep: I am not a pirate either.. please avoid the OT
[16:03] <Pici> !install > malahal (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:03] <livingdaylight> so where is tracker? is tracker built into Desktop Applet?
[16:03] <gaelik> im from the north of spain
[16:04] <zitsep> Jack_Sparrow: np!
[16:04] <Pici> livingdaylight: Yes, it built into the deskbar searching and I believe a few other programs as well. I dont know which off the top of my head.
[16:04] <zitsep> Jack_Sparrow: what is OT?
[16:04] <gaelik> there's schools for that
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> zitsep: Off topic discussions
[16:04] <zitsep> gaelik: there are no schools in hungary
[16:04] <gaelik> north spain is a gelik territory
[16:04] <livingdaylight> i have not heard of tracker or know where it is
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelik:  zitsep   please.. not in here
[16:05] <zitsep> uh, sorry.. ok
[16:05] <gaelik> Galicia, asturie, cantabrie.
[16:05] <gaelik> yep.
[16:05] <gaelik> ok
[16:05] <gaelik> sotty
[16:05] <gaelik> sorry.
[16:05] <livingdaylight> Pici, ic so it is built into desktop applet... kewl
[16:05] <Pici> livingdaylight: Well, more like the deskbar can access it :)
[16:06] <livingdaylight> is mono considered evil?
[16:06] <gaelik> ....another question...compiz-fusion its suposed to be in the 7.1 distro....but....where???????
[16:06] <gaelik> cant find it.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[16:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:07] <livingdaylight> Pici, i have heard people say deskbar is unstable but it has been fine... anyhow won't install beagle now
[16:07] <zitsep> how can i set up wireless networking to connect my network (linksys) by default?
[16:07] <gaelik> ok doc.
[16:07] <cocox> does anybody knows a good c, c++ IRC channel???????
[16:07] <SpookyET> Ubuntu does not have fglrx 7.11 in the restricted drivers, does it?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cocox:   #c++        but none will be as busy as here
[16:08] <gaelik> bye bye
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> take care
[16:08] <s-i-m-o> HI ubuntus
[16:08] <peterpan_> how do i know which port is my tv tuner on. and can it be accessible by the right app?
[16:08] <malahal> Pici: I followed 'Installation/FromUSBstick' guide there. I just ran isostick.sh on 7.10-desktop iso file. I could NOT boot it. Note that I can boot gpated/gentoo/systemrescueCD liveUSBs.
[16:09] <cocox> join #c++
[16:09] <utty> im having trouble installing exaile anybody have any tips
[16:09] <malahal> Pici: I get 'Couldn't find kernel: /casper/.vlm....
[16:09] <gvsa123> anyone familiar with gnome-blog and wordpress? i was able to drag and drop a picture to the entry, but it didn't appear in site.
[16:09] <cocox> oopps
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> cocox:   /j
[16:09] <cocox> yeah
[16:09] <cocox> lol
[16:09] <cocox> what do you mean as busy as here?
[16:10] <cocox> dont you say here is not for programming talk
[16:10] <cocox> ?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal:   do you have that link for me..
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | cocox:
[16:10] <ubotu> cocox:: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:10] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:10] <utty> add/remove wont let me check the box to install software
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> cocox: True.. this is not the channel for discussing programming...
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: thanks
[16:11] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, btw, are you trying to help me or you going install that way?
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: I run it from usb and have persistent usb.. never installed from usb
[16:12] <notebook> is there an Ipod discussion group?
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: Just for my own information
[16:12] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, ok, thank you.
[16:12] <notebook> my ipod becomes read-only at random times
[16:14] <Chris_Toffer> wie kann man rausfinden welche anwendung einen bestimmten port belegt?
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: that says nothing about working for gutsy...
[16:14] <bazhang> german Chris_Toffer? this is an englsih channel
[16:14] <brobostigon> !de | chris_toffer
[16:14] <ubotu> chris_toffer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: Only covers Dapper and mentions feisty
[16:15] <Konam> hey
[16:15] <notebook> can anyone direct me to ipod help?
[16:15] <wols> notebook: ##apple?
[16:15] <peepsalot> i have a compiz problem.  It seems that compiz and gnome are not communicating about what workspace I am on.  the workspaces in gnome panel do not match with the ones on the compiz cube
[16:15] <Konam> Can i share files between linux environments with samba?
[16:15] <magnetron> Konam: yes.
[16:15] <Chris_Toffer> ha, sorry wrong window..
[16:16] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, I never installed ubuntu before, but what is 7.10 here in the command line: sudo ./isotostick.sh ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso  /dev/sdb4
[16:16] <Konam> I mean, without problems or anything, is just that i want a graphical interface and nfs doesn't have one
[16:16] <notebook> thanks wols.  it's become read-only at random times,
[16:16] <Konam> at least not packaged
[16:16] <peepsalot> and gnome panel shows applications in the taskbar for every application on the cube
[16:16] <peepsalot> no matter which workspace I am currently on
[16:16] <crush_groove> my browser lox in place at the top of the screen and I cant move it . foxfire
[16:16] <wressle> Hello, I am having some issues with using my microphone in Ubuntu. I managed to sort out every other problem so this is the last one remaining. I don't know where to start really, I've plugged in the mic but I am not sure what utility to use to test it (and what sound driver it is using. I would assume ALSA).
[16:16] <mrdinkles> Using Gutsy-- Attempting to run Compiz manager, receive Dbus error-- Dbus failed to load-- what error is this and how can i fix it?
[16:17] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, is this ISO related to gutsy...: ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[16:17] <Konam> magnetron does it have a recommendable GUI?
[16:17] <threefcata> is there a way to control the order of startup programs?
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: I understand that is the script they say to use.. but they never mention in the docs that it will work with 7.10   only dapper and feisty are mentioned which are earlier versions.. You might look at the site pendrivelinux.com
[16:17] <bazhang> malahal: that is gutsy--so related yes :}
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: 7.10  yes
[16:18] <magnetron> Konam: the client has.
[16:18] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, they didn't mention it but the documents commands clearly use Gutsy. How odd that it doesn't work!
[16:18] <peepsalot> does gutsy use compiz fuzion for desktop effects?
[16:19] <malahal> bazhang, thanks. Can any one point me liveCD->liveUSB that works for gutsy!!!!!!
[16:19] <bazhang> !compiz | peeps
[16:19] <ubotu> peeps: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:20] <mrdinkles> How do we switch between IRC chats-- like #compiz-fusion?
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: There are a lot of steps including working from windows.. so there is also the possibility of user error too..  I didnt see anything in what I read that mentions gutsy..  but since it is something I would like to do, I will be looking into it
[16:20] <Pici> mrdinkles: type /join #compiz-fusionm
[16:20] <peepsalot> it is a yes or no question.  i don't want a howto
[16:20] <Pici> mrdinkles: spelled correctly of course.
[16:20] <mrdinkles> thanks
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mrdinkles: /j #room
[16:20] <Pici> peepsalot: If your computer supports it, yes.
[16:20] <bazhang> peepsalot: you have a compiz problem, so that is not a genuine question
[16:20] <peepsalot> ok thanks
[16:21] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, thank you. I will look at the pendrive.com link you provided. Is there a DVD iso? I have blank DVDs, that sucks though
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> peepsalot:   /join #compiz-fusion
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: yes there is a dvd  but ugh.. the dl would kill me
[16:22] <babo> I've uploaded a folder to my server root and I've changed the permissions to 777. When I try to access the folder from a web browser I get 'Forbidden - You don't have permission to access this folder' ...
[16:22] <piratepenguin> emm for some reason my updates can't be authenticated and when I visit any https: sites they all "use an invalid security cert" what's up with this??
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: Sorry I didnt have a better answer, and thanks for the link, I will look into it later today
[16:22] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, can you point me to the link. I googled one but that is on a different domain (I can't trust)
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: One sec
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: http://pendrivelinux.com/
[16:24] <jwatson> I am trying to install ruby + rails... rails 2.0.1 is not available?
[16:24] <jwatson> and ruby gem won't behave for the life of me
[16:24] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, pendrivelinux.com for DVD iso?
[16:24] <jwatson> i erased the source gem.... but apt-get remove / reinstalling it does not fix it
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: I would think the procedure would be the same...
[16:25] <ricanelite> Where can i install restricted codecs?
[16:25] <ricanelite> and java6?
[16:25] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, where do I find the DVD iso images on pendivelinux.com??
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: The only difference in the two are the extras you would not need to download...  Poor explanation I know..
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: sorry. completely misunderstood one sec....
[16:26] <Konam> which package install NFS support in ubuntu?
[16:26] <Pici> Konam: nfs-common I believe.
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: what part of the world do you live in?
[16:27] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, that site looks like installing to USB drive (from CD iso to start with). Doesn't seem to help me. But I will look.
[16:27] <ricanelite> what do I put in the terminal to install ms fonts, codecs and java6?
[16:27] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, USA (North West)
[16:28] <Aaron> how do i watch youtube type videos on gusty? need certain codecs?
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: iso   dvd or cd should not be an issue
[16:28] <kitche> !java | ricanelite
[16:28] <ubotu> ricanelite: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[16:28] <ricanelite> need flash Aaron
[16:28] <jayson_r> Aaron: just flash
[16:28] <bazhang> ricanelite: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: May I msg you?
[16:28] <Aaron> o that sucks heh
[16:28] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, but I could not find a link to DVD iso image
[16:28] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, sue
[16:28] <kitche> ricanelite: if your on feistyjust start playign a video and it should ask you if you want to get the codecs if your using totem
[16:28] <ikkinu> hi all, I have a router, with a desktop and a laptop connected. On the desktop I have an apache http server running. Here the problem: I can see my homepage inside the LAN, but anyone outside can't. I enabled Virtual server with correct port and ip on the router, and no firewalls on the desktop are running. Can anyone help me, please? :)
[16:29] <jayson_r> ikkinu: when you say 'virtual server' on the router, is that the same thing as creating a pinhole or opening a port? what kind of router do you have?
[16:29] <Aaron> Blizzard Downloader keeps saying im behind a firewall.... any way to exception this?
[16:30] <bazhang> Aaron: read up on port-forwarding and NAT
[16:30] <Aaron> where could i get info on NAT?
[16:30] <ikkinu> jayson_r, the router given by my ISP
[16:30] <bazhang> Aaron: want me to google you a link?
[16:31] <brobostigon> aaron: LDP , help.ubuntu.com
[16:31] <Aaron> o nah i can google heh
[16:31] <alexander> hjjklhg
[16:31] <Aaron> ty though
[16:31] <bazhang> np
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: My dvd link is no good either..
[16:31] <utty> add/remove programs wont let me check anything to install just keeps saying needs to reload
[16:32] <Aaron> is XGL just more desktop effects?
[16:32] <ricanelite> when i install ubuntu restricted extras does it does Microsoft Fonts?
[16:32] <malahal> Jack_Sparrow, ok, I will give a bit more try, otherwise I am off to fedora or some other distro.
[16:32] <utty> what am i doing wrong
[16:32] <bazhang> yes ricanelite
[16:32] <ricanelite> thanks
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: ftp://tuma.ui.edu/pub/ubuntu-repository/gutsy/
[16:32] <ricanelite> I need to write all of this down so I have it for reference in the future if I ever need to reinstall the OS
[16:32] <Pici> Aaron: XGL is a method that your video card driver uses to access the screen so you can use desktop effects.
[16:33] <bazhang> utty: have you enabled the necessary repositories? then you need to update them before installing packages
[16:33] <brobostigon> malahal, i am very sorry that thats the case.
[16:33] <ricanelite> is there a DVD Ripper out there for Linux?
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> malahal: Hope whatever distro you use works well... take care
[16:33] <Aaron> are there any more desktop effects out there besides compiz fusion?
[16:33] <ricanelite> beryl
[16:33] <bazhang> malahal: fedora and other distros are much much harder in this respect
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> ricanelite: K9copy
[16:33] <utty> ty
[16:33] <Aaron> i thought beryl was part of compiz?
[16:33] <malahal> brobostigon, I just need to install without CD. I don't have blank CD.
[16:33] <ricanelite> will that work with Gnome?
[16:33] <Pici> !beryl | Aaron
[16:33] <ubotu> Aaron: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[16:34] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: too slow :)
[16:34] <Aaron> thats what i thought
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[16:34] <malahal> bazhang, What do you mean. I used fedora in the past and I now use gentoo.
[16:34] <Aaron> are there any other desktop effects besides just compiz though?
[16:34] <malahal> bazhang, Fedora has DVD iso.
[16:34] <brobostigon> malahal: i am sorry but i dont know how to install without cd and or dvd.
[16:34] <ikkinu> jayson_r, it seems to be solved, thanks anyway
[16:34] <malahal> bazhang, liveCD->liveUSB of gentoo/systemrescueCD/gpated work better than ubuntu.
[16:35] <Aaron> you can install via VMWare
[16:35] <Pici> Aaron: No. What exactly are you looking for?
[16:35] <bazhang> malahal: this is offtopic
[16:35] <ricanelite> does VLC play Quicktime and Divix formats?
[16:35] <malahal> brobostigon, I have blank DVDs. But is there an official DVD iso?
[16:35] <Aaron> looking for an effect that makes all your windows shrink onto the current desktop and you can select 1
[16:35] <brobostigon> malahal: you can put the cd iso onto a dvd.
[16:35] <Pici> !dvdiso | malahal
[16:35] <ubotu> malahal: DVD ISOs are available via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[16:35] <reel> hi, I get an error no space in /tmp. df -h shows 100% use, but du -sh /tmp shows only 32K used. What is wrong ? /tmp is shown to be tmpfs
[16:36] <malahal> brobostigon, that would be good, if it can boot that way. I will try one.
[16:36] <Pici> Aaron: That effect is part of the compiz-fusion suite
[16:36] <joe7d6> 'intel' or i810 driver for intel 965gm aka x3100. comment / any bug . many thanks
[16:36] <Delvien_> .
[16:36] <tom____> I've noticecd on several ubuntu screenshots there is some sort of macos type laucher on the bottom -- how do people get that?
[16:37] <Aaron> do you know what it is called Pici i cant find it
[16:37] <Pici> !ccsm | Aaron
[16:37] <ubotu> Aaron: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[16:37] <bazhang> tom____: avant-window-manager
[16:37] <tom____> bazhang: thanks :-) so it's an alternative to gnome?
[16:38] <bazhang> tom____: not really, just a way to mac os-ify things :}
[16:38] <Dellamorte> I wanna use the command "telinit 3" but it says I need to be root.
[16:38] <Pici> !sudo | Dellamorte
[16:38] <ubotu> Dellamorte: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:38] <tom____> bazhang: it's not in my package manager...
[16:39] <bazhang> tom____: do you want me to find you a link?
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici: MAy I politely suggest decaf ....wow you are fast today
[16:39] <tom____> bazhang: I can hunt for it...thanks for the info though! :-)
[16:39] <LjL> Dellamorte: you do. but why would you use that command anyway? i don't think moving to runlevel 3 really has an effect anymore in Ubuntu
[16:39] <bazhang> tom____: you have to install it yourself
[16:39] <NetGamer> hello
[16:40] <Aaron> ugh just crashed
[16:40] <Aaron> but i have all the advanced desktop stuff but i cant find it anywhere in there
[16:41] <tom____> bazhang: it's installing...
[16:41] <munim> hello... is anyone here/
[16:41] <Pici> Aaron: Its called scale I think, if you need help with specific options you should ask in #compiz-fusion
[16:41] <sroberts> munim: yes. 1211 people are here.
[16:41] <Aaron> ty pici
[16:41] <bazhang> munim: what is the issue?
[16:41] <kitche> LjL: your correct sicne Ubuntu is already in init 3
[16:41] <munim> ok... it was showing empty at first :-)
[16:41] <LjL> kitche: uhm, i thought 2, but anyway i'm not sure it really matters much, with Upstart
[16:41] <munim> i am trying to install 7.10 on my computer.. blank screen flashing...
[16:42] <munim> somethin like xserver coudln't start probably something bad
[16:42] <Delvien> dm
[16:42] <tom____> bazhang: wow..that was painless...THAT's why I like ubuntu :-) thanks for the help!
[16:42] <munim> i have a widescreen monitor and the resolution is not displayed in the list
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> munim: Were you able to boot livecd and get to the desktop yet
[16:42] <bazhang> tom____: no worries ;}
[16:42] <munim> no
[16:43] <munim> that's what.. i can't even boot the live cd
[16:43] <LjL> munim: not even in "safe graphics mode"?
[16:43] <munim> actually i didn't have the problem with 7.04 and my old CRT monitor...
[16:43] <munim> no
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> munim: Does it get to start or Install screen?
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[16:44] <piglit> munim you can eddit your xorg.conf
[16:44] <munim> no.. doesn't get anywhere!
[16:44] <munim> no.. i can't even boot in the live cd
[16:44] <piglit> you van find it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:44] <munim> how am i supposed to edit it if i can't boot?
[16:44] <Pici> piglit: That will not work for the live CD.
[16:44] <Pici> munim: Have you tried using the alternate install CD?
[16:45] <munim> alternate install cd?? whats that/
[16:45] <Pici> munim: The liveCD can't be compatible with everything due to space issues.
[16:45] <Pici> !alternate | munim
[16:45] <ubotu> munim: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[16:45] <piglit> munim try google'ing on text mode install
[16:45] <Pici> piglit: 'Google it' isn't an acceptable answer here.
[16:45] <RioCunliffe> None of my windows have titlebars!! help!
[16:46] <Pici> munim: Its available off of the Ubuntu download page. There is a checkbox.
[16:46] <munim> any way to do a text install with the default cd?
[16:46] <digweed> Hello everyone !!!!
[16:46] <Pici> munim: No.
[16:46] <munim> i don't want to download a whole cd image.. i have a dial up :-9
[16:46] <munim> :-(
[16:46] <digweed> alguien habla español ????????
[16:46] <RioCunliffe> None of my windows have titlebars!! help!
[16:46] <Pici> munim: You might be able to request the alternate CD from shipit
[16:46] <Pici> !es | digweed
[16:46] <ubotu> digweed: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:46] <Pici> !repeat | RioCunliffe
[16:46] <ubotu> RioCunliffe: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:47] <munim> do you know anything about getting the live cd to start with widescreen lcd monitors?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> munim,  they work with my widescreen lcd's
[16:47] <Pici> munim: We've explained your options.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> munim,  what video card you using?
[16:48] <munim> intel 865 onboard
[16:48] <FireRazor> I'm trying to build banshee from source but when i execute "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee" it return an error (You must  insert some URIs 'source' into your sources.list)
[16:48] <Mulciber> Anyone know where I can find help for Avant Window Navigator
[16:48] <Mulciber> ?
[16:48] <munim> Pici: can't download a whole cd image
[16:48] <LjL> FireRazor: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:48] <Pici> Mulciber: #awn
[16:48] <munim> Dr_wills: intel 865 onboard
[16:48] <devicebusy> NickServ REGISTER acdsee
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Mulciber,  i recall installing it from some repository. Not sure what one it was in by defaults.
[16:48] <Pici> !shipit | munim
[16:48] <ubotu> munim: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs
[16:49] <LjL> devicebusy: now pick another password
[16:49] <munim> Pici: that takes 2 weeks!
[16:49] <RioCunliffe> None of my windows have titlebars, can anyone help me??
[16:49] <verb3k> devicebusy, use a slash "/" before :)
[16:49] <malahal> Is gparted on the liveCD?
[16:49] <devicebusy> Ups
[16:49] <devicebusy> Thanks
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> munim: Did you try F6 and different boot options.. I used npapic for my nvidia and widescreen...   fyi.. I need to run.. back later
[16:49] <Pici> munim: I'm sorry.
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Mulciber,  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 gutsy avant-window-navigator -------- is the repo i have for it. But i forget where i got that info from.
[16:49] <munim> Pici: i can download it instead... but i don't want to.. was wondering if there was any work arounds
[16:49] <FireRazor> LjL, deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
[16:49] <Dr_willis> !find avant
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
[16:49] <FireRazor> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
[16:49] <ubotu> File avant found in wims-modules
[16:49] <Mulciber> Pici: Nobody is there.
[16:50] <kylk> the livecd has no java compiler has it?
[16:50] <FireRazor> soorry
[16:50] <Pici> Mulciber: I see quite a few people in there.  Not every channel is as active as this one.
[16:50] <morphles> i have core 2 quadro q6600 i downloaded ubuntu 7.10 desktop amd64 (since as i know core 2 is 64 bit, am i right?) and ubuntu doesnt boot, nor safe graphical nor normal
[16:50] <LjL> FireRazor: "pastebin" is not "paste"
[16:50] <FireRazor> now i know that
[16:50] <FireRazor> wait
[16:50] <brobostigon> !pastebin | firerazor
[16:50] <ubotu> firerazor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:51] <Pici> brobostigon: ljl has already sent it, he has magic.
[16:51] <brobostigon> ok pici
[16:51] <RioCunliffe> None of the windows on my cpmputer have titlebars, can anyone help????
[16:51] <Pici> brobostigon: I only know because I kept doing the same thing you just did until he told me to stop ;)
[16:51] <FireRazor> wait xD
[16:52] <devicebusy> Thanks peoples
[16:52] <LjL> RioCunliffe: if you're using Compiz and have an Nvidia card, then i think #compiz-fusion has the solution (probably even in the topic)
[16:52] <brobostigon> riocinliffe: no idea
[16:53] <FireRazor> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48693/
[16:53] <MacTheMad> hello... getting frustrated... can't get flashplayer installed
[16:54] <BB88> Anybody know why my network drops speed after usage?
[16:54] <gitts> hello people anybody got Webhttrack running well on Gutsy gibbon?
[16:55] <lepijohnny> yea
[16:55] <FireRazor> LjL, did it work?
[16:55] <slugone> good morning all
[16:55] <brobostigon> good afternoon: slugone
[16:55] <Vlet> I'm trying to set a custom terminal res in 7.10 server by adding vga=775 to the appropriate line in my menu.lst, but whenever I try it, the monitor (a dell lcd) says the signal is out of range, even though it IS a 1280x1024 monitor
[16:55] <Vlet> Anyone know why this might be?
[16:56] <slugone> i dont thats for sure
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: I have a way that may work for you since flash is broken at the moment
[16:56] <DrPepper> I had the same issue.. I just guessed that the hardware vga driver doesn't support the high resolutions.
[16:56] <morphles> amd64 verion should work on core 2 proessor?
[16:57] <Vlet> DrPepper: ahh bummer
[16:57] <slugone> no it didnt for mine
[16:57] <MacTheMad> what would that be jack sparrow?
[16:57] <slugone> morph
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: The workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal
[16:57] <morphles> f* so i must redownload ...
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_i386.deb
[16:57] <LjL> FireRazor: yes. i've generated a new one for you - it includes the sources repositories you need, and i've also changed that Debian Skype repository you were used into Medibuntu (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu » about it). you should never use Debian repositories unless you *absolutely* know they are and always be Ubuntu-compatible
[16:57] <LjL> FireRazor: the new list is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48695/
[16:57] <MacTheMad> ok... I've tried reinstalling there with out luck
[16:57] <slugone> it said it didnt support long mode when i tried to install the 64bit on my macbook
[16:58] <kurt> can someone help me how to get my ati card to work
[16:58] <frederico> ls
[16:58] <kurt> ati 1950 pro
[16:58] <morphles> one more question: im using gentoo now and it gives kinda BIG freedom over manual configuration via simple text files and stuf, and i like it; how much of such manual configuration are left in ubuntu ?
[16:58] <slugone> which makes sense cause 2 32bits dont equal a 64
[16:58] <MacTheMad> hmmm... ok, I'll try that & ty jack sparrow
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:59] <LjL> morphles: there's the whole /etc directory for you to configure, for a start
[16:59] <mrdinkles_> Using 7.10-- Installing compiz-- but the more installation guides i try, the worse it gets-- I want to start over from scratch, how can i remove any of the compiz files and reload the defaults from my disc without reinstalling linux
[17:00] <munim> since the 7.10 live cd doesn't work, do you guys recommend installing 7.04 and upgrading?
[17:00] <Pici> morphles: Nothing forces you to use the graphical configuration in Ubuntu, most of the programs are just interfaces to make chanegs to the files in /etc.
[17:00] <morphles> a and what about compiling and instaling from src? wont it brake something?
[17:01] <magnetron> munim: try the alternate cd
[17:01] <munim> ok
[17:01] <Pici> morphles: Theres really no reason to do that on Ubuntu.
[17:01] <magnetron> !alternate > munim
[17:01] <LjL> morphles: it mostly will, unless you know what you're doing very well. why would you need to do that?
[17:01] <morphles> well ill find :)
[17:01] <morphles> i belive ill find some stuff ill like to try and that is not in repositories
[17:02] <munim> magnetron: its okay.. i got the download link
[17:02] <kurt> Did anyone here ever tried linspire linux ?
[17:02] <morphles> so ill have to know what im doing very well :)
[17:02] <bazhang> kurt: yes
[17:02] <morphles> dont think that'll be that hard
[17:02] <FireRazor> LjL, thanks, let me see
[17:02] <bazhang> kurt: stay away--it's not good
[17:02] <Aaron> is there a command you can add to a program to make it open with a certain refresh rate?
[17:03] <kurt> bazhang: it's not worth the 40$ you mean
[17:03] <kurt> cause i want an easy linux
[17:03] <LjL> morphles, it's not hard. just make sure you only ever do that with end-user programs and never with libraries or such things, and also make sure that you install the compiled stuff in /usr/local or /opt, and *never* in the /usr hierarchy, which APT expects to have for itself
[17:03] <bazhang> kurt: it's not worth anything
[17:03] <Dr_willis> Aaron,  a program open with a specific refresh rate? That sort of dosent make sence..
[17:03] <LjL> morphles: as for actually doing it, it's really not much different from gentoo or just about any other distribution
[17:03] <kurt> bazhang: i tried ubuntu but didn't get my ati card working
[17:04] <Dr_willis> kurt,  is this in a laptop?
[17:04] <kurt> bazhang: so now i try freespire but i have the same problem
[17:04] <bazhang> kurt: that is why we are here :}
[17:04] <Dr_willis> There is the 'freespire' variant of linspure..but last i checked it out.. Ubuntu had it beat.
[17:04] <morphles> i belive so; i think my linux knowledge will me more than enough for that since gentoo well... is gentoo
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kurt: You will have the same issuse due to ati support.. not the distro
[17:04] <stuporglu1> I'm thinking about getting a Wacom tablet for my wife. She does a lot of photo editing on Ubuntu. Anyone got any reviews or warnings about Wacom tablets with Ubuntu?
[17:04] <slugone> kurt what ati card do you have ?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> stuporglu1,  last i checked the xorg.conf defaulted to having them configured by default.. :)
[17:05] <kurt> 1950 pro desktop
[17:05] <morphles> are there any oficial torrents for ubuntu?
[17:05] <slugone> laptop ?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> stuporglu1,  you may want to check the forums/google for reviews to see if any of the tablets are a better value then others.
[17:05] <slugone> oh
[17:05] <morphles> or just mirrors?
[17:05] <slugone> desktop
[17:05] <kurt> no desktop
[17:05] <slugone> hmm sec let me check it out for ta
[17:05] <slugone> ya
[17:05] <stuporglu1> Thanks Dr_willis -- do all models work? Or do they have special drivers -- I've never used a tablet before
[17:05] <crdlb> morphles: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[17:06] <Dr_willis> stuporglu1,  no idea if ALL work. :) ive only used the few low end ones.
[17:06] <crdlb> there's a .torrent for every image
[17:06] <kurt> the only distro that got my ati 1950 to work is opesuse
[17:06] <kurt> but i want a distro (like ubuntu) that uses cnr, i think that is great
[17:07] <deadlock> How can i make it so that my pc boots into my windows partition instead of linux as default
[17:07] <bazhang> kurt: cnr is just out of beta, and likely will cause problems
[17:07] <brobostigon> cnr will run on ubuntu i think??
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> deadlock: edit your boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:07] <cyrano> RioCunliffe: What windows manager are you running?
[17:07] <kurt> bazhang: i just installed xchat and it worked well, btw linux will be beta forever
[17:07] <bazhang> brobostigon: just out of beta, not stable may not equal runs well
[17:08] <Aaron> does anyone here play WoW on gusty?
[17:08] <bazhang> kurt: you wanted help with ubuntu? if not there are other channels
[17:08] <kurt> but can anyone help me now getting my ati card working
[17:08] <Pici> kurt: Are you running Ubuntu right now?
[17:08] <kurt> bazhang: i agree , can you help me ubuntu getting my ati card working
[17:08] <brobostigon> bazhang, i didnt know and wasnt sure,i just read about it in the news a few months ago,
[17:09] <kurt> no , not now, but i have it
[17:09] <Pici> Aaron: Yes, some people do, try asking in #winehq and also check out appdb.winehq.org
[17:09] <bazhang> brobostigon: just got their newsletter :}
[17:09] <kurt> but if i wam sure, you get it working,
[17:09] <bazhang> kurt: would you like a link?
[17:09] <kurt> i re-install it right away
[17:09] <Aaron> well its more of a ubuntu question then a wine problem
[17:09] <kurt> any help is welcome
[17:09] <SpookyET> Hi. Is AIGLX supposed to be slower than XGL? I'm getting about the same framerate with AIGLX, but it feels slower.
[17:09] <digweed> Hello..can anyone help me with mi Intel 945 Direct Rendering : NO ????
[17:10] <phibxr> !ot | phibxr
[17:10] <bazhang> kurt: you may need to some reading--is that ok?
[17:10] <kurt> bazhang: if no other choice
[17:10] <Pici> Aaron: Whats the question then?
[17:10] <FireRazor> LjL,  ahá, itworked xD thanks a lot
[17:10] <digweed> ok thnx
[17:10] <digweed> bye bye
[17:11] <dfgas> how do i change the logo on the menu bar that has the ubuntu logo on gnome?
[17:12] <kurt> bazhang: can you help me now ?
[17:12] <slugone> 1950 pro....is it agp or pci-e and how many megs
[17:13] <Pici> kurt: Have you installed Ubuntu?
[17:14] <Pici> kurt: I'm not sure how you want us to help you here...
[17:14] <kurt> 1950 pro 512 mb pci
[17:14] <mgim> Hi I'm trying to get a Radeon 7200 detected correctly in ubuntu
[17:14] <kurt> Pici:it's not installed right now
[17:14] <mgim> i've change xorg.conf to use the radeon driver and using /etc/init.d/gdm restart but it still puts me in "low resolution" mode
[17:14] <slugone> what happened last time buntuu  installed u
[17:14] <zitsep> i have problem ubuntu gutsy: flashplugin-nonfree md5sum error
[17:14] <Pici> zitsep: See the topic please.
[17:14] <slugone> damn touch pad LOL last time u installed ubuntu what happened
[17:15] <BB88> Can anybody help me with ndiswrapper?
[17:15] <kk_> anyone know a mirror thats near my home country Ghana???
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: do ou have the v & H rates in there for your monitor?  Post your xorg to the pastebin not in channel
[17:15] <zitsep> Pici: ok thank you very much
[17:15] <kk_> anyone know a mirror thats near my home country Ghana???please
[17:15] <Pici> !repeat | kk_
[17:15] <ubotu> kk_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:15] <mgim> Jack_Sparrow just a moment
[17:15] <zitsep> Pici: can you guess how much time it is to fix? you surely will guess better than i. 1 day or 2?
[17:15] <mgim> and i will post
[17:15] <BB88> Can somebody help me with ndiswrapper?
[17:16] <Pici> zitsep: I believe the devs are testing it now, so we should see it in a few days.
[17:16] <zitsep> Pici: thank you bye!
[17:16] <kurt> i try some further, thanks anyway
[17:16] <MarcC-backroom> what do I do if my "system sounds" area under Sound preferences is blank?
[17:16] <MarcC-backroom> sound works fine and I want to enable some system sounds
[17:17] <BB88> How can I remove a file from ndiswrapper, sudo ndiswrapper -r nameofdrive.inf is not working.....
[17:17] <Pici> kk_: Are you looking to change you repository servers or download a CD?
[17:17] <bazhang> kk_: gh.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be the one
[17:17] <Pici> kk_: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ lists ghana as a choice
[17:18] <BB88> How can I remove a file from ndiswrapper, sudo ndiswrapper -r nameofdrive.inf is not working.....
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience | BB88:
[17:18] <ubotu> BB88:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:18] <bazhang> BB88: would you like a link?
[17:19] <BB88> to what?
[17:19] <utty> lol
[17:19] <slugone> i am a little new to linux..... i got the basics of terminal down......does anyone know any good sites for moderate to advanced CLI commands?
[17:19] <bazhang> BB88: to help for ndiswrapper
[17:19] <Pici> !cli | slugone :)
[17:19] <ubotu> slugone :): The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:19] <BB88> bazhang: Yes please.
[17:20] <quaal> what burns bin/cue
[17:20] <JNlord> Hallo all
[17:20] <mgim> Jack_Sparrow: i've got in paste.. whats the link I can give to you to see it?
[17:20] <Pici> slugone: Also check out the advanced bash scripting guide (see google) for some good bash programming tips.
[17:20] <mgim> nevermind
[17:20] <slugone> thanks
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: once you paste the link is at the top of the page
[17:20] <mgim> Jack_Sparrow http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48700/
[17:20] <mgim> the refresh rates are in there
[17:20] <mgim> that's the xorg.conf file
[17:21] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper BB88
[17:21] <root__> Afternoon
[17:21] <JNlord> i got ubuntu running on parallels workstation using its image (.iso), now its not seeing my DVD drive
[17:21] <muhammad_> hello 2 alz
[17:21] <Pici> !rootirc | root__
[17:21] <ubotu> root__: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: Are those your rates or just a default set.. ie.. did you verify your specs with that one
[17:22] <mgim> i did a little research
[17:22] <ladynikon> how do you kill off dead processes?
[17:22] <mgim> and no, those are not quite it
[17:22] <mgim> 30-80
[17:22] <mgim> and 56-76
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: I would start there... and parhaps drop the depth from 24 to 16 just for a test..
[17:22] <mgim> is that really the problem?
[17:22] <mgim> okay.. thanks Jack
[17:22] <mgim> Can i come back if this doesn't work?
[17:22]  * genii finds it root__ disturbing
[17:23] <disturbed> hows it goin'?
[17:23] <peepsalot> can someone tell me what /etc/profile does?
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: It could be the problem..  and yes, please come back.. welcome to Ubuntu
[17:23]  * genii hands out coffees
[17:23] <peepsalot> do I have to restart in order for changes to take effect for /etc/profile
[17:24] <ehj> Hi there, can anyone guide me how to put ubuntu on an empty HD so that I can put it into an old laptop and boot from it? (my Evo N400c does not have a CD, nor does bios allow any alternative boot method)  )
[17:24] <Aveyron> i have a question to the sources.list-file
[17:25] <genii> ehj: If it has a floppy and a network adapter there is another way, to do a pxe boot from floppy
[17:25] <Pici> Aveyron: Whats the question?
[17:25] <Konam> can someone help me with NFS? I can't get the files from my NFS server, I'm following this howto: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[17:25] <faintofhearts> What is the command for configuring the xorg server?
[17:25] <ehj> genii, no floppy either
[17:25] <Aveyron> i try to install the ssh-server, but i have no installation-media
[17:26] <Pici> faintofhearts: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   (-phigh if you just want video stuff)
[17:26] <faintofhearts> That it
[17:26] <faintofhearts> Thanks
[17:26] <utty> linux has evolved well the last dist i used was mandrake 4 there is alot more support now
[17:26]  * faintofhearts is forgetful
[17:26] <Aveyron> and don't what to write in the sources.list-file
[17:26] <Aaron> is there any way to take a screenshot while looking at my cube desktop?
[17:26] <ehj> genii, all that was in the docking station, which I have lost
[17:27] <Pici> Aveyron: Are you getting an error to insert the install CD?
[17:27] <Aveyron> yes
[17:27] <Pici> Aveyron: Are you using gnome?
[17:27] <owlin> Hi, can someone help me install Open Arena 0.7.1?
[17:27] <cyrano> Aaron: yes
[17:27] <Aveyron> Pici: no, ich have only text-mode
[17:28] <Aaron> what keys do you use cyrano?
[17:28] <ehj> genii, I have heard you can do some kind of "dd" - an image of a bootable disc, on a HD
[17:28] <white_eagle> can I easily switch between GNOME and KDE when both of them are installed?
[17:28] <cyrano> Aaron: ctr+Alt+ mouse-click to activate, release the two keys keeping the mousebutton pressed in. Then you will be able to use print screen button while dragging the cube around
[17:28] <genii> ehj: Ah. Well first to recommend that you see how the bios in the Evo maps the hard drive you wish to use (heads cylinders, etc) then when you put the drive  in another box to copy the hd image, it will apear the same in geometry
[17:28] <LjL> white_eagle: yes, in your login screen
[17:28] <Pici> Aveyron: Okay.  There should be some lines at the top of /etc/apt/sources.list that say deb-cd (or very similar) just remove those
[17:28] <white_eagle> ok
[17:28] <Aaron> ahhh ty
[17:29] <ladynikon> nvm i got it
[17:29] <Pici> Aveyron: I'd look on mine but I deleted them long ago.
[17:29] <cyrano> Aaron: for future questions these are better to ask in #compiz-fusion
[17:29] <mgim> Jack_Sparrow et al.: I changed the horizontal and vertical sync settings per the specifications of the manufacturer (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/1702fp/en/specs.htm) and also the bit to 16
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ehj: You can try installing on that spare drive making sure to set video to basic vesa mode then sticking it into the other pc...
[17:29] <cyrano> !compiz
[17:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:29] <mgim> No change
[17:30] <mgim> Interestingly, when I boot up it doesn't seem to be taking my xorg.conf settings
[17:30] <mgim> I got the default VESA driver and a plug and play.. looks like some failsafes
[17:31] <genii> ehj: I would recommend this thread for study: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137569
[17:31] <genii> work /away
[17:31] <Baltazaar> mgim:  then delete the defult profiles. Have only une Xorg.conf
[17:31] <Aveyron> Pici there is still a error-message
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mgim: Ok... I am a little preoccupied today but others can help  thanks Baltazaar
[17:32] <Aveyron> in german..there semms to be no source whre to install from
[17:32] <kd7swh> This seems to be a little bit of a different crowd so I will ask again...
[17:32] <Baltazaar> Aveyron: there is plenty
[17:32] <BB88> What is the opposite of rmmod?
[17:32] <mgim> Baltazaar: there is just one xorg.conf..
[17:32] <brobostigon> insmod
[17:32] <crdlb> BB88: use modprobe and modprobe -r
[17:33] <kd7swh> Does anyone know how to change the default wifi network networkmanager connects too
[17:33] <white_eagle> what is the difference between SLUB and SLAB
[17:33] <crdlb> you don't need to use insmod and rmmod
[17:33] <Baltazaar> delete or insert modules to a running kernel
[17:33] <white_eagle> if there is one
[17:33] <Aveyron> i don't know what to do, its completly knew for me
[17:34] <Therion> Hi all, someone know if exist a valid alternative to dri optimized for r200 chipsets?
[17:34] <Baltazaar> mgim:  try man Xorg.conf
[17:34] <Baltazaar> point to the file when doing startx
[17:34] <white_eagle> what is the difference between SLUB and SLAB if there is one
[17:34] <mgim> is the only way to restart xorg via rebooting?
[17:35] <Baltazaar> ctrl backspace
[17:35] <mgim> i just realized all i'm doing is /init.d/gdm restart
[17:35] <mgim> that won't reload the new conf file, will it?
[17:35] <Baltazaar> ctrl+alt+backspace
[17:35] <Baltazaar> restart x
[17:35] <Dr_willis> gdm restart should kill off X and restart it also.
[17:35] <sjuerges> hello everyone ... if anybody has the time, i wouldnt mind a hand here, im kinda stuck
[17:35] <crdlb> white_eagle: SLUB is a replacement for SLAB but it's not ABI-compatible, so some things (proprietary drivers) don't work properly
[17:36] <Jowi> anyone got the lyx-gtk binary package?
[17:36] <Therion> Or where i can find r200_dri.so source code?
[17:36] <Baltazaar> google it
[17:36] <white_eagle> I have SLUB and proprietary drivers from ATI, and yes, the boot screen doesn't work (not the login screen)
[17:36] <crdlb> Therion: huh? that's already in libgl1-mesa-dri
[17:37] <white_eagle> If I change it to SLAB will the boot screen work?
[17:37] <Therion> thanks crdlb
[17:37] <crdlb> Therion: if you *really* want the source code, do: apt-get source mesa
[17:37] <crdlb> (no sudo)
[17:37] <sjuerges> basically, i tried bootin of the 7.10 amd64 livecd, doesnt work, so i used the alternate, installed like a charm. but i cant boot into ubuntu, only thing i cet after startup is a black screen
[17:38] <Therion> crdlb: nice, i try now :)
[17:39] <Baltazaar> READ MAN XORG.CONF
[17:39] <sjuerges> anybody know ho to fix the "black-screen after grub" problem ?
[17:39] <Baltazaar> can't just ask and ask...
[17:39] <kd7swh> white_eagle: it appears that SLUB is a replacement for SLAB
[17:39] <Baltazaar> need to read for yourself and learn
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:40] <kd7swh> white_eagle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_allocation http://lwn.net/Articles/229984/
[17:41] <sjuerges> jack_sparrow: thnx, not it though. x works when i boot using acpi=off, noapic and nolapic, and turn quit boot and splash off
[17:41] <sjuerges> but as soon as i leave the options on default, it dies (quietly)
[17:41] <ricanelite> how do i edit my repo using a editing app?
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: edit your boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:42] <peterpan_> how to use my tv card (alpha tv tuner card) ?
[17:42] <Alex_Gaynor> Does anyone have any idea when the flash plugin installation will be fixed?
[17:42] <Baltazaar> linux is for people with enough patience to read a man page or three once in a while. There isn't always a button...
[17:42] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  editing app? You mean a text editor? sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list is the normal way
[17:42] <white_eagle> sjuerges: maybe I'm too late, but the same thing happened to me when I first booted the pc
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: Did you try using the hoary version?
[17:42] <Whitor> Baltazaar: Are you saying that Windows requires no patience ?
[17:42] <peterpan_> Jack_Sparrow ?
[17:43] <Alex_Gaynor> Jack_Sparrow: No I haven't, right now I'm using gnash which doesn't work too well, how would I install it?
[17:43] <ricanelite> well that but there was more a easier editing program which opened a text editor
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: The workaround is to first go to synaptic, select the flashplugin-nonfree package and then mark it for *complete* removal.
[17:43] <kd7swh> ricanelite: "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" would do the trick too. you can use any text editor. be careful though.
[17:43] <white_eagle> gnash is better
[17:43] <white_eagle> I mean faster,
[17:43] <sjuerges> jack_sparrow: to what end ?
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: Then install the hardy flashplugin,  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10761023/flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_i386.deb
[17:43] <Baltazaar> Whitor: Windows has buttons AND requires patience, and still it doesn't work...
[17:43] <utty> windows requires 2nd grade
[17:43] <ricanelite> thanks
[17:43] <Whitor> Baltazaar: I agree completely
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: To include the options that you are using to get it to work
[17:44] <brobostigon> M* windows requires the patience of a saint
[17:44] <Alex_Gaynor> Jack_Sparrow: Will that work on an amd64 system?
[17:44] <Baltazaar> I'm using OS X and Ubuntu solely. Left the Windows camp several years ago...
[17:44] <white_eagle> !ping
[17:44] <ubotu> pong
[17:44] <Dr_willis> !marco
[17:44] <CodeImp> Polo!
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about marco - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: I honestly dont know...
[17:44] <kd7swh> lol
[17:45] <white_eagle> lol
[17:45] <sadaiyappan> Hi.
[17:45] <white_eagle> !ponny
[17:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ponny - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:45] <Poul|Raider> Anyone know, im sitting in sql management trying to execute 2 create procedures in the same query, but it returns a error when it get to the second CREATE PROC.... properly need some seperator or something?
[17:45] <white_eagle> !pony
[17:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: There would possibly be a different dl from hoary
[17:45] <sadaiyappan> Can someone pm me?
[17:45] <magnetron> !helpersnack > ikonia
[17:45] <sjuerges> jack_sparrow: well, it fixes the problem as in i see a distorted console during boot, and the X Server starts, but as soon as i try to drop to a console, i cant really work on it, cause its so big and distorted you can barely read it
[17:45] <kd7swh> what does the bot know? does it know package info?
[17:45] <Pici> kd7swh: yes.
[17:45] <Pici> !usage | kd7swh
[17:45] <ubotu> kd7swh: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:46] <Slart> !helpersnack ?
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpersnack ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:46] <magnetron> !msgthebot > kd7swh
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: IS your xorg set to vesa mode.
[17:46] <sjuerges> sec
[17:46] <sjuerges> nope, uses the proprietary ati fglrx package
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: I would set it to vesa... to get working gui then work on res
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sjuerges: So with the grub options and the xorg set to basic 1024 you should get to a base startup level.
[17:48] <sjuerges> jack_sparrow: thanks, ill try that.
[17:48] <white_eagle> how to change from GRUB to GRAB
[17:48] <sjuerges> jack_sparrow: bye
[17:48] <white_eagle> so the boot screen can load
[17:48] <Pici> white_eagle: GRAB?
[17:48] <Alex_Gaynor> Jack_Sparrow: How would I force the package to work with amd64(right now it gives me an architecture error)?
[17:48] <Poul|Raider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48705/ - anyone know what i am missing to execute this at one time, getting error Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'PROCEDURE'.
[17:48] <white_eagle> Pici: yes, GRAB
[17:48] <Aaron> anyone know how to get VLC Media Player on gusty?
[17:48] <crispy-afk> sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:48] <Slart> Aaron: it isn't in the repos?
[17:48] <bazhang> Aaron: install it
[17:48] <kd7swh> on a more technical note did someone sit any enter all of this stuff into the bot with a bunch of tcl... (re thinking things) its database driven right?
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: I dont know
[17:49] <Pici> Poul|Raider: Thats a bit offtopic for this channel.
[17:49] <Aaron> in the repos?
[17:49] <Aaron> i just installed linux yesterday lol
[17:49] <Pici> !software | Aaron
[17:49] <ubotu> Aaron: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[17:49] <MichaelSammels> I was wondering how you degrade the kernel in Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[17:49] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[17:49] <crispy-afk> Aaron use the command i wrote
[17:49] <Slart> !apt | Aaron
[17:49] <ubotu> Aaron: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[17:49] <Poul|Raider> Pici, ye and if someone know he will properly answer me.
[17:49] <MichaelSammels> I was wondering how you degrade the kernel in Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:49] <Alex_Gaynor> Jack_Sparrow: Alright, I'll just wait it out then, so there is no estimate?
[17:49] <Aaron> they say on the site to set up a "universe"?
[17:49] <crispy-afk> it should be set up
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Alex_Gaynor: I am sure lots of people are working onit
[17:50] <white_eagle> !universe | Aaron
[17:50] <magnetron> !universe > Aaron
[17:50] <ubotu> Aaron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[17:50] <MichaelSammels> I was wondering how you degrade the kernel in Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:50] <Pici> Aaron: Open up the synaptic package manager from system>Administration or even easier use Add/remove from Applications menu.
[17:50] <Aaron> well i used the 2 command lines they gave me but nothing happened
[17:50] <Pici> !repeat|  MichaelSammels
[17:50] <ubotu> MichaelSammels: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos | Aaron
[17:50] <Pici> Poul|Raider: But its still offtopic, there are numerous sql and programming channels on freenode.
[17:50] <white_eagle> !multiverse > Aaron
[17:51] <Poul|Raider> i dont know any pici, feel free to post one if you know any
[17:51] <mgim> Still nothing and I've read xorg.conf but it isn't clear what I'm doing wrong.  I've tried both the ATI and the RADEON driver in the xorg.conf file but each time it loads a default VESA and a default monitor and throws me into 800x600 mode
[17:51] <chazco> Will ext2 be able to handle a 400GB partition, or should i break it into smaller ones?
[17:51] <Pici> Poul|Raider: #mysql, ##programming
[17:51] <Aaron> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html is what they said to use and i did
[17:51] <Aaron> just didnt nothing at all
[17:51] <Aaron> did*
[17:51] <Pici> Aaron: That is not neccessary and actually not reccomended.
[17:52] <Aaron> i tried the other way but got confused
[17:52] <Pici> Aaron: Do you see a link on the Applications Menu that says Add/remove?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> chazco,  ext2/3 can handle that. You proberly want to use ext3
[17:52] <Aaron> yes im reloading the list now
[17:53] <Pici> Aaron: Just search for vlc there and it will download and install automatically. Thats the reccomended way of installing software.  Always look there or using Synaptic before downloading and installing from 3rd party sites.
[17:53] <Aaron> said nothing found when i looked for vlc
[17:54] <Pici> Aaron: hold on a moment please.
[17:54] <Aaron> is it safe to change to open source search?
[17:54] <backgen> hey does anyone know if i send a linux word file to a mac or windows user...will they be able to open it?
[17:54] <brobostigon> aaron: open synaptic, and then search for vlc.
[17:54] <bazhang> Aaron: you need to enable the repositories for that--go to synaptic and enable the repositories (under settings)
[17:54] <Aaron> is there another program besides vlc that plays dvd codecs and such?
[17:55] <febdesk> help, after an upgrade from feisty to gutsy, network is completly broken
[17:55] <Pici> !medibuntu | Aaron follow the instructions here
[17:55] <ubotu> Aaron follow the instructions here: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:55] <c0nka16> hello could someone help
[17:55] <febdesk> sometimes eth0 gets an ip address
[17:55] <Pici> backgen: What do you mean by a Linux word file?
[17:55] <bazhang> ask c0nka16
[17:55] <backgen> well like a word file from the software that came with ubuntu
[17:55] <Aaron> for legal reasons???
[17:56] <backgen> so "OpenOffice"
[17:56] <c0nka16> when i put the disk in to install ubuntu it loads then goes on to a black screen
[17:56] <febdesk> but even then pings to other pcs on the network fail with 'destination host unreachable'
[17:56] <Filled-Void> Hi all I somehow managed to break my grub and Im trying to reinstall it however I am having problems doing so. my fdisk -l is here . COuld anyone tell me what to do to reinstall this http://pastebin.ca/822318
[17:56] <c0nka16> ?¿
[17:56] <Pici> Aaron: Its supposedly illegal to play dvds on hardware/software that is not licenced .
[17:56] <utty> i just looked and vlc is avalable
[17:56] <Filled-Void> !grub > Filled-Void
[17:56] <Pici> backgen: If you export from Openoffice to a ms word file, sure.
[17:56] <c0nka16> ?¿
[17:56] <bazhang> c0nka16: how did you burn the disk?
[17:56] <backgen> Pici: how do i do that?
[17:57] <white_eagle> KDE 4, when?
[17:57] <febdesk> Aaron: there's also mplayer
[17:57] <Pici> white_eagle: When its done.
[17:57] <c0nka16> nero 2X
[17:57] <white_eagle> Pici: thanks for nothing
[17:57] <NumBeast> white_eagle: nobody knows
[17:57] <crispy-afk> I have a problem installing ubuntu GG. I have installed using the alternative CD, but the xserver never gets configured correctly. My videocard is ati x1950pro
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle: Dont be rude
[17:57] <Pici> white_eagle: ask in #kde then
[17:57] <Aaron> i looked at mplayers website and got me confused.....
[17:57] <kd7swh> the new svn of vlc is really good looking, I just have to figure out how I broke my mplayer install now
[17:58] <Pici> backgen: I believe there is an option in OOo's save as dialog.
[17:58] <Aaron> just like this medibuntu site....
[17:58] <NumBeast> kd7swh: it probably overwrote a codec or something
[17:58] <Pici> Aaron: What are you confused about?
[17:58] <c0nka16> ?¿
[17:58] <Pici> c0nka16: Stop.
[17:58] <peterpan_> how to use my tv card (alpha tv tuner card) ? http://pastebin.ca/822256.
[17:58] <Aaron> ^.^ this is my first linux system ever....
[17:58] <Pici> c0nka16: ?¿ on a line w/o any other context is not constructuve.
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> backgen: As long as whatever text editor you use supports plain txt or the format of the system you are sending it to it will work
[17:59] <Pici> !away > NumBeast_away (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:59] <bazhang> Aaron: you  may have to a bit of reading first--that medibuntu site tells you exactly what to do
[17:59] <c0nka16> can someone help please
[17:59] <kd7swh> NumBeast: I broke it before the vlc compile. Not a codec issue. It is a gui thing (works fine in the terminal)
[17:59] <osmosis> How does reverse DNS lookup work? Since only the IP is given, how does it know which server to contact for the response?
[17:59] <Konam> can someone tell me how can i see the ip addres of my pc in my network
[17:59] <backgen> fantastic! your right i can save as a Word Doc...wow linux is amazing
[17:59] <inukshux> I have a Gutsy installed on my HD, and also installed Vista later. Now, due to Vista's boot loader, I can't access my Ubuntu installation as well.
[17:59] <Pici> osmosis: Thats a bit offtopic for this channel, perhaps try in ##networking or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:00] <backgen> So apart from games...what would be the disadvantage of switching to Ubuntu?
[18:00] <Pici> backgen: Some hardware is not supported.
[18:00] <crispy-afk> no photoshop
[18:00] <c0nka16> anyone
[18:00] <backgen> like printers and such?
[18:00] <inukshux> backgen: if you use multimedia apps.. things like Photoshop, Illustrator, Corel aren't available.
[18:00] <NumBeast_away> backgen: windows people will forever lable you as a "Mac user" because you don't use windows
[18:00] <osmosis> Pici: ok
[18:00] <inukshux> backgen: printers depend.
[18:00] <Pici> backgen: Some, you'll have to do some research.
[18:01] <Pici> c0nka16: Did it give you a black screen if you selected safe graphics mode?
[18:01]  * peterpan_ needs help
[18:01] <bazhang> c0nka16: how did you burn the iso file? from windows? please highlight my name by typing my nick if you want me to pay attention
[18:01] <backgen> hmmm do you guys know if Azureus works on linux/
[18:01] <backgen> ?
[18:01] <utty> Aaron: did you find it?
[18:01] <inukshux> backgen: it does.
[18:01] <Konam> backgen azureus has a linux version
[18:01] <kd7swh> backgen: linux does require commitment its like a child you have to promise to learn from it. Yes azureus works
[18:01] <inukshux> It's Java.
[18:02] <c0nka16> bazhang : yep from windows
[18:02] <densone> anyone in here run Xen on Ubuntu Server?
[18:02] <Dr_willis> One of the joys of java. :)  apps the same on windows as linux..
[18:02] <bazhang> c0nka16: sounds like an issue with the cd quality; you could also try the alternate cd to install from if that does not work
[18:02] <mgim> yes it seems xorg is using my failsafe conf file instead of my conf file.. what causes this?
[18:02] <inukshux> I have a Gutsy installed on my HD, and also installed Vista later. Now, due to Vista's boot loader, I can't access my Ubuntu installation as well. How can I restore Ubuntu's boot loader (grub, iirc) from the Live disc?
[18:03] <kd7swh> backgen: quite a few apps are the same putty, vlc, firefox.
[18:03] <backgen> and does Totem player really play ANY type of file or should i download Miro?
[18:03] <c0nka16> ok
[18:03] <Pici> c0nka16: Did you even get a menu that asks if you want to install/check cd for errors etc?
[18:03] <bazhang> inukshux: vista installed second?
[18:03] <densone> im trying to get Xen to function properly, wondering if anyone has run the setup on Ubuntu
[18:03] <NumBeast> backgen: don't blame it on the player, it probably can't find your codecs
[18:03] <NumBeast> backgen: look at the ubuntu wiki: restricted formats
[18:03] <inukshux> backgen: another thing which.. sucks: Office Suites. There's OpenOffice.org, but that isn't as good as Microsoft Office, even if many of these guys will kick my @ss for saying this.
[18:03] <kd7swh> backgen: I use mplayer and vlc in addition to totem. its really up to you what you want to use. you just need codecs.
[18:04] <inukshux> bazhang: yep.
[18:04] <inukshux> bazhang: so it rewrote the MBR.
[18:04] <bazhang> inukshux: I've got a link for exactly that--care to read it?
[18:04] <BlueJak> Hey can i ask someone something ?
[18:04] <NumBeast> inukshux: OpenOffice.org may be a little slower, but it really is better
[18:04] <Pici> BlueJak: Sure, dont ask to ask.
[18:04] <tokyodrift> hallo?!?!
[18:04] <bazhang> ask BlueJak
[18:04] <c0nka16> bazhang : so that should work then
[18:04] <c0nka16> ?¿
[18:04] <tokyodrift> anyone here?
[18:04] <BlueJak> ok :D
[18:04] <Aaron> keep getting Could not download Repository Indexes....
[18:04] <kd7swh> backgen: mplayer and vlc will run on windows too so you can try before you switch if needed
[18:04] <tokyodrift> good
[18:04] <tokyodrift> pls help me!!!!
[18:05] <nickwebcoukok> silly question - I know theres a vista look alike theme for ubuntu 7.10, but where on gnome-look do I look? is it beryl or compiz themes?
[18:05] <Konam> ok, can someone help me with NFS?, please..
[18:05] <Pici> Aaron: Are you connected to the internet on that computer?
[18:05] <NumBeast> tokyodroft: what's your problem?
[18:05] <tokyodrift> i wanna have ICQ
[18:05] <inukshux> NumBeast: I'm not in the mood to flame. At the moment, I have a quite decent pc, so Idgas on speed. Usability matters though.
[18:05] <bazhang> tokyodrift: please be patient
[18:05] <Aaron> yes im talking to yall right now...
[18:05] <tokyodrift> but i dont know anything about ubuntu
[18:05] <inukshux> bazhang: paste it, and I'll read it.
[18:05] <multidex> how do i restart gnome in 7.10?
[18:05] <Pici> multidex: `sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart`
[18:05] <nickwebcoukok> multidex: ctrl + backspace
[18:05]  * whadar has just wrote a script that tests mirrors and selects the fastest servers very quickly and reliably (as opposed to netselect). It works well for ubuntu... anyone willing to test?
[18:05] <BlueJak> do u know a good audio editing/recording/mizing software for ubuntu ? (i dont like audacity ) , something more "profesional" :D
[18:05] <mgim> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !pidgin | tokyodrift
[18:05] <ubotu> tokyodrift: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[18:06] <LjL> tokyodrift: Pigdin, the built-in instant messaging program, supports ICQ as far as i'm aware
[18:06] <bazhang> c0nka16: perhaps--i've burned many bad cd's in the past and even had to use the alternate cd as well at times
[18:06] <Pici> whadar: Please dont ask for testing in this channel, its for support.  You can ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:06] <whadar> Pici: k
[18:06] <tokyodrift> ubotu thx i'll see
[18:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx i'll see - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:06] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207870 inukshux
[18:06] <Marslyr> I'm a first time ubuntu user, today is my first day :D ,  would someone be able the explain to me how to install "Python Imaging"?
[18:06] <Aaron> Pici if im connected i shouldnt have that problem right?
[18:07] <LjL> tokyodrift, there's nothing to see really, just start Pidgin from your Applications menu, and add an ICQ account to it
[18:07] <x_or> I cannot figure out how to switch my timezone from BRST (Brazilian Standard Time) to PST.  I tried running tzselect, but no luck.  Anyone know what tool I can use?
[18:07] <Pici> Aaron: Can you get to a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and type the following command: sudo apt-get update  and then pastebin the results?
[18:07] <Pici> !paste | Aaron
[18:07] <ubotu> Aaron: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:07] <nickwebcoukok> silly question - I know theres a vista look alike theme for ubuntu 7.10, but where on gnome-look do I look? is it beryl or compiz themes?
[18:07] <SeJo> hey all how do i add the en_US.utf-8 encoding? now locale -a only shows C and posix
[18:07] <Aaron> sure can 1 sec
[18:07] <BlueJak> bazhang,  do u know a good audio editing/recording/mizing software for ubuntu ? (i dont like audacity ) , something more "profesional" :D
[18:07] <BlueJak> :|
[18:07] <Baltazaar> I would recommend Ubuntu Linux "From novice to professional" to everyone. It's a great book...
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos | Marslyr:
[18:08] <ubotu> Marslyr:: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[18:08] <tokyodrift> there is no pidding
[18:08] <malahal> i just booted with the liveCD (7.10). mouse pad on my new laptop isn't working....
[18:08] <chazco> Hi... planning to upgrade my laptops HDD... whats the best way to move Ubuntu (or /home) to the new HDD?
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !info pidgin
[18:08] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[18:08] <Marslyr> Ooh, I'll check it out, Thanks Jack_Sparrow!
[18:08] <BlueJak> klaps
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Marslyr: Look at synaptic in your menus
[18:08] <Pici> tokyodrift: Make sure you spell it correctly, its pidgin
[18:08] <mukie1> Is it possible to have a CUPS server keep all jobs cached so that it can reprint completed jobs?
[18:08] <bazhang> http://arstechnica.com/guides/tweaks/linux-audio.ars BlueJak
[18:08] <BlueJak> thx
[18:08] <BlueJak> :)
[18:09] <Vlet> For what can I grep my dmesg to find out what ubuntu recognized my vid card as?
[18:09] <Ganjaman23> i heha
[18:09] <kd7swh> tokyodrift: in gusty pidgin should be in the "internet" menu.
[18:09] <tokyodrift> hmm
[18:09] <Aaron> Pici i just pastebinned it
[18:10] <Pici> Aaron: I need the link :)
[18:10] <tokyodrift> iÄ've 7.04 feisty fan
[18:10] <Aaron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48707/
[18:10] <tokyodrift> or something like that
[18:10] <tokyodrift> ^
[18:10] <bazhang> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/15/1650217&mode=thread also this bluejak
[18:10] <Aaron> pasted like 3 times but it wouldnt enter ^.^
[18:10] <erUSUL> Vlet: the video card doesn't appear on dmsg you can find what video card ou have with 'lspci | grep -i vga'
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> tokyodrift: then does gaim work for you
[18:10] <Vlet> erUSUL: thankya!
[18:10] <bazhang> tokyodrift: how about gaim
[18:10]  * Ganjaman23 im a Ubuntu SE fan
[18:11] <enigmata> Can somebody help me with my sound? I have an 82801H (ICH Family) HD Audio controller with ALSA. I am getting NO sound at all, and the ALSA Volume is at full blast.
[18:11] <bazhang> !sound | enigmata
[18:11] <ubotu> enigmata: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:11] <nickwebcoukok> where bouts can I get the vista lookalike theme for 7.10?
[18:12] <Ganjaman23> stigmata
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> AaronIf you are copying FROM a terminal you need to add Shift to ctrl-c
[18:12] <Aaron> huh?
[18:12] <kd7swh> tokyodrift: gaim is what pidgin used to be called.
[18:12] <erUSUL> intelhda | enigmata
[18:12] <erUSUL> !intelhda | enigmata
[18:12] <ubotu> enigmata: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[18:12] <Pici> Aaron: Okay.  Go into System>Adminitration>Software Sources
[18:12] <Marslyr> Awesome, I knew it was probably right under my nose, thanks "Jack_Sparrow"!
[18:12] <bazhang> nickwebcoukok: not sure what you mean--have you checked gnome-look?
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Marslyr: np
[18:12] <Ganjaman23> the satanic edition works well
[18:12] <Aaron> im there
[18:12] <tokyodrift> greast works
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Marslyr: See also how to enable the other repos..
[18:12] <tokyodrift> you are grea
[18:12] <tokyodrift> t
[18:13] <darkblue_B> BASH Backspace Battles!!  my backspaec is set to eat the char in front of you"! Yuck! how do I cahange ths please !!
[18:13] <tokyodrift> many thx
[18:13] <kd7swh> Is there a neat little app to make simple graphical menus
[18:13] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:13] <Konam> the name of my machine is 'matrix' and when I try to mount it I get this: mount.nfs: can't get address for matrix
[18:13] <nickwebcoukok> bazhang: yeah - theres a few, but I cant figure out what one to choose -i.e compiz, beryl or thers, any I try to download load as invalid themes in Apperance preferances..
[18:13] <Marslyr> Jack_Sparrow: hmm? not sure I understood that?
[18:13] <Konam> can someone enlight me
[18:13] <Dr_willis> darkblue_B,  there used to be a backspace-delete howto. ages ago.
[18:13] <Pici> Aaron: And Change where it says Download From to what select best server suggests.
[18:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos | Marslyr
[18:13] <ubotu> Marslyr: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[18:13] <Dr_willis> darkblue_B,  you sure you diden hit the insert key by mistake?
[18:13] <kd7swh> Konam, most likely there are 1246 people in the room
[18:13] <bazhang> nickwebcoukok: better to stay away from the compiz ones--they are way too ram hungry
[18:14] <Aaron> ive already done the best  server suggest thing
[18:14] <utty> Aaron: i just took you through that step by step
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Marslyr: In synaptic you can enable special repositories of software that can not be included with the default install for legal reasons
[18:14] <Marslyr> Oh That okay, :D
[18:14] <Marslyr> gotcha.
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[18:14] <MacTheMad> hello again... I've installed a 2nd network card in my machine and could use some assistance setting it up... my 1st card (eth0) is set properly with my static ip, gateway & dns servers & working correctly... I need to set my 2nd card (eth1) to provide dhcp addresses to other machines and also I would like it to work as a dns server (chinesetakeout.local) for several other networked machines... any suggestions?
[18:14] <nickwebcoukok> is that not what used on 7.10?
[18:14] <Pici> Aaron: Okay, then pick a different mirror, it looks like the one you got is a bit non-working.
[18:14] <Aaron> i did that when utty told me to
[18:14] <darkblue_B> Dr_willis: my backspace key.. ther eis only one :-)
[18:14] <darkblue_B> Dr_willis: delete is says on the key face
[18:14] <Pici> utty: The server he has is giving him errors.
[18:15] <rob_p> kd7swh: There's zenity if that's what you are asking.
[18:15] <Aaron> it keeps chaning mine to canada....
[18:15] <Pici> Aaron: So?
[18:15] <Aaron> changing*
[18:15] <Aaron> im in Texas lol
[18:15] <Ganjaman23> MactheMad, do you have to install bind
[18:15] <kd7swh> rob_p I thought zenity was for dialog boxes
[18:15] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642822 nickwebcoukok
[18:15] <Pici> Aaron: Perhaps canada is faster though...
[18:15] <Dr_willis> darkblue_B,  check out tldp.org and that backspace howto I guess.. Been ages sinve ive seen anyne with the backspace issues.
[18:15] <MacTheMad> I'm unsure ganjaman23
[18:16] <rob_p> kd7swh: Yeah, it is.  I just wanted to make sure that wasn't what you were referring to.
[18:16] <darkblue_B> Dr_willis: looking
[18:16] <Aaron> its sitting on downloading file 36 0f 59
[18:16] <Filled-Voi1> Im trying to reinstall grub on my system and i get the error  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no when I run setup (hd0) . Any help would be appreciated
[18:16] <Ganjaman23> mactheamd, yeah a dns server called bind
[18:16] <Pici> Aaron: Is it downloading it? There should be a percentage on there (if you're using the apt-get method)
[18:17] <utty> good
[18:17] <kd7swh> rob_p: no not really. I want to script a small gui, glade and pygtk are a little much for me though
[18:17] <utty> it might take awhile but its working
[18:17] <Aaron> it failed a bunch of them and then gave me the same error
[18:17] <Ganjaman23> and then you have to add soa records and stuff
[18:17] <rob_p> kd7swh: Well, zenity will accomodate simple scripts.
[18:17] <MacTheMad> I installed dns server package when I did initial install and have added dhcp server thru synaptic ganjaman23
[18:17] <Pici> Aaron: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list please.  You can open it with gedit.
[18:17] <Ganjaman23> but you cacn set it up to just relay dns requests to another DNS server
[18:17] <Aaron> huh?
[18:17] <utty> =(
[18:17] <rob_p> kd7swh: It can produce nice little dialog boxes, collect user input, etc.
[18:17] <Pici> Aaron: Also, do you by chance use a proxy to connect to the internet?
[18:18] <kd7swh> rob_p: I'll play with it
[18:18] <utty> Aaron: you on dialup?
[18:18] <Aaron> i have a DSL connection through a router i dont deal with linux or connetions
[18:18] <kd7swh> rob_p: is there a quick howto around I can look at?
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kd7swh: you can look at pyqt I have a link that will help you make a simple gui window in a few minutes
[18:18] <Mr_Forshey> JOIN rcs
[18:19] <darkblue_B> Dr_willis: ugh
[18:19] <rob_p> kd7swh: It's pretty straight-forward.  I just use the manpages for zenity when I want to create a simple front end to my scripts.
[18:19] <Pici> Aaron: press alt-f2 and type: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <Ganjaman23> Aaron, your router is DHCP capable?
[18:19] <Pici> Ganjaman23: He can get on the internet.
[18:19] <rob_p> kd7swh: ...since I don't have the useage memorized.
[18:19] <Aaron> never had any connection issues in my life with this router and modem on XP
[18:19] <kd7swh> Jack_Sparrow: is pyqt like pygtk?
[18:19] <Ganjaman23> sick you Die eggs,
[18:19] <Aaron> alt f2 isnt opening anything
[18:19] <Pici> Ganjaman23: Excuse me?
[18:19] <kd7swh> rob_p: if the manpages are good I'll just use them