[12:13] <lupine_85> have you added yourself to the group?
[12:14] <cpk2> lupine_85: yeah, did that when i made it
[12:14] <lupine_85> peculiar
[12:15] <cpk2> lupine_85: groups doesnt show the group, i think i need to relog?
[12:15] <lupine_85> shouldn't need to
[12:16] <cpk2> lupine_85: well the users and accounts gui shows me in the group but "groups" doesnt have it listed
[12:16] <lupine_85> maybe the silly GUI hasn't written the changes yet?
[12:17] <cpk2> well its taking it sweet time =\
[12:18] <lupine_85> maybe you need to shut the GUI down?
[12:18] <cpk2> it has been =\
[12:19] <cpk2> i closed it and opened it to double check it
[12:27] <digivore> how do i run a program that i don't install through adept or synaptic?  just one that i download froma webiste?
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> digivore, you probably have to compile from source
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> what program is it?
[12:38] <digivore> !bowser
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <digivore> i have this 'bowser' thing in my 'internet' menu,   and it has no icon and i have no idea what it is.     anyone seen this before?
[12:40] <axiom> bowser?
[12:40] <NeoSaki> Well, Bowser is the boss in the Mario series by Nintendo
[12:40] <digivore> when i type it into terminal i get:
[12:40] <digivore> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:40] <NeoSaki> He is normally seen as taking Princess Peach from her castle in Mushroom Kingdom
[12:42] <NeoSaki> Sounds like its a database browser
[12:42] <digivore> ann it was a news leecher..
[12:42] <NeoSaki> or that
[12:42] <NeoSaki> :D
[12:43] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to make a Linksys Wireless-G USB Adapter(WUSB54GC) work in Kubuntu?
[12:43] <couquinoux> franais?
[12:43] <digivore> !fr
[12:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:44] <cpk2> i seem to have lost the logout button for kde
[12:44] <cpk2> or maybe I never had one?
[12:44] <NeoSaki> !wifi
[12:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: PIng
[12:45] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Pong
[12:46] <DaSkreech> Apparently SuperTuxkart put back up the binary :)
[12:46] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Oh nice!
[12:46] <DaSkreech> Unfortunnately it doesn't work on my other computer :(
[12:47] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: What link is the binary on ?  I'm not seeing it on the downloads page
[12:47] <digivore> I want to be able to control my windows machine over my network,  sort of like remote desktop ...  any ideas?
[12:48] <DaSkreech> VNC
[12:48] <digivore> !vnc
[12:48] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:48] <digivore> thx
[12:48] <Dr_willis> vnc can do that very nicely
[12:49] <Dr_willis> for a vnc server for windows - i tend to use the 'ultravnc' server
[12:49] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Got a link to the binary ?
[12:49] <DaSkreech> un momemt
[12:49] <Dr_willis> If you can see both machines/monitors - you can use 'syngery' to 'move the mouse' and use the keyboard on the other machine.
[12:50] <illmatik> hi, im trying to boot kubuntu from CD for the first time, when its loading the files, i get an I/O error about maybe 25% through
[12:50] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2765
[12:50] <illmatik> ive tried burning it twice
[12:50] <illmatik> and i did the data check thing as well
[12:50] <DaSkreech> illmatik: Try it on a different computer
[12:50] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Ohhh, that was there last night actually
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk2, i can't hibernate on my edgy set up
[12:50] <DaSkreech> If it works then try reburning it at a slower rate
[12:50] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: That's exactly where I downloaded the .tar.bz2 file from actually
[12:51] <illmatik> im getting a laptop soon but i wanted to give it a try on my main PC...why wouldnt it work on it, its pretty up to date
[12:51] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: When I went there the other night the source was there not the binary
[12:51] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Strange.  As I downloaded the bin file last night in fact along with the source
[12:52] <illmatik> thanks ill try that
[12:52] <Poundex> Hi, I have a couple of questions about the Edgy beta. How stable is it atm? and when the next beta/final version is released will i have to re-download the ISO and reinstall, or will it simply be a case of updating packages?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: ah ok. Tried the .deb?
[12:52] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[12:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[12:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Not yet.  I went to the Houston Texans vs. Miami Dolphins football game today here in Houston so I just got back home not long ago
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Poundex, you can update it by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> Poundex: I will tell you how stable a beta release is if you can confirm hacking your leg off hurts
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Poundex: It's stable enough that I use it at work (i'm slightly crazy) and yes you can just update to the new version
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I search repos from the command line
[12:53] <couquinoux> qui peut m'aider  installer ine quickcam logitec pour l'utiliser dans msn?
[12:53] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache search
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache search or apt-cache policy
[12:53] <DaSkreech> !fr
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, i know it was something like that
[12:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:53] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Or even apt-cache madison
[12:54] <Poundex> thanks
[12:54] <cpk2> <--- lost "logout" option for kde, sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop doesnt seem to remember how many desktops I have and its kind of annoying having to configure everything when i login
[12:54] <DaSkreech> couquinoux: French?
[12:55] <cpk2> shouldnt logout be in the kde menu?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> it is in mine.
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> logout can be in your menu or on your taskbar, it can even be on your desktop
[12:56] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  make a new user.. see if it shows up in their  K menu.
[12:57] <cpk2> Dr_willis: good idea heh
[12:57] <NeoSaki> If I got the Desktop CD is Firefox included on the cd? or do I need to get a package CD from somewhere?
[12:58] <maurycy> no, U must install firefox
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: its very easy to add software
[12:58] <NeoSaki> I know how
[12:58] <Dr_willis> Very very very easy,,,, trivial in fact.
[12:58] <Dr_willis> :P
[12:58] <Dr_willis> since it auto downloads. :)
[12:59] <NeoSaki> I mean if I don't have net access on the desktop because the only way to access the net is to open my net browser and agree to some flippin terms from the hotel I'm staying in
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: you have to understand kubuntu is a kde destkop enviroment and as such konqueror is the default browser
[12:59] <Dr_willis> I do find it odd that they dont include firefox.. but i got my own set of install_extra_things scripts that i run on any new install
[12:59] <maurycy> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[12:59] <NeoSaki> But! The terms are not able to be pulled up by Konqueror
[12:59] <cpk2> err whats the cli to add a user? the gui doesnt seem to want to give me the prompt to entry my root pw
[12:59] <NeoSaki> >_>
[01:00] <Dr_willis> adduser, or is it useradd
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: you can open a term inside konqueror
[01:00] <Dr_willis> He means the "Terms of Agreement"
[01:00] <maurycy> if U need root
[01:00] <maurycy> use sudo -s -H in term
[01:01] <NeoSaki> ...
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Ive seen isps do that befor - often theres some sort of dns trick that sends every address  to a site for the EULA/Terms of USsage
[01:01] <sorush20> hi ..
[01:01] <NeoSaki> yeah
[01:01] <NeoSaki> but for some reason Konqueror isn't compatable
[01:01] <sorush20> my kubuntu download keeps dying..
[01:01] <sorush20> are there any http dowloads?
[01:01] <sorush20> or just ftps?
[01:01] <NeoSaki> but Firefox is, because that is what I use on my windows partition
[01:01] <Dr_willis> My isp does that for new machines..  had to fight with it once when i was using a router.
[01:01] <NeoSaki> Its gay
[01:02] <sorush20> Dr_willis: what that to me?
[01:02] <Dr_willis> NeoSaki,   boot to windows.. find that url that gets to that eula page.. jog down the address.. also get the ip# of the address.
[01:02] <NeoSaki> V_V I suppose I can find some paper
[01:02] <NeoSaki> lol
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sorush20, kubuntuorg
[01:02] <Dr_willis> NeoSaki,  then try to go to the http://ip#.of.the.site/whatever/eula.poo
[01:02] <Dr_willis> from within linux.
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> Im just wondering can you install the mozila-firefox-linux  binary in Kubuntu from a cd without any deps
[01:03] <Dr_willis> alternatively - try to get konqueror to identify as firefox, or IE.
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Linux_Galore, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> Admiral_Chicago: with any internet
[01:03] <Linux_Galore> without*
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Admiral_Chicago,  he cant GET to the internet. :P is firefox on the kubuntu cd at all..
[01:03] <sorush20> Admiral_Chicago: what ?
[01:04] <maurycy> as i remember firefox isn't on CD
[01:04] <Dr_willis> well he can get to the internet.. sort of.. :P lol
[01:04] <Dr_willis> almost..
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, i i think it installs stock
[01:05] <Dr_willis> the Ubuntu cd - has firefox.. not sure bout Kubuntu
[01:05] <Linux_Galore> NeoSaki: try downloading the Linux binary in windows or via the live ubuntu cd (it has firefox) then install the binary in kubuntu via a thumb drive or cd
[01:05] <sorush20> how do I use jigsaw download sofware to kubuntu ?
[01:06] <Linux_Galore> just has another idea, download the ubuntu cd and set it up as a repo for kubuntu and install forefox
[01:06] <cpk2> Dr_willis: I am missing the whole actions area =\
[01:06] <maurycy> i just check
[01:06] <maurycy> yes, firefox is on CD
[01:06] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  odd.. could remove the .kde* settings and reset ya user to defaults
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Linux_Galore, try searching packages.ubuntu.org
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> Admiral_Chicago: I dont have a problem
[01:08] <cpk2> if i got rid of them there must be a way to put them back =P
[01:08] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: ?? this in konqueror
[01:08] <cpk2> in the kmenu
[01:09] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  I dont even knwo how you could get rid of them,
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: always just remove the rc file for kmenu
[01:09] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: eh?
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: logout and back in and the menu should go back to the default
[01:10] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: what rc file?
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: in kde everything has a rc file under ~/.kde/
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: were do you think all the savings are saved
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> settings*
[01:11] <cpk2> well there isnt very much in .kde
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: ~/.kde/share/config
[01:12] <cpk2> so just remove kmenueditrc?
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: or just rename it whatever_bak
[01:14] <cpk2> well here goes
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25450/
[01:14] <DaSkreech> That's my error message :(
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: thats the menu editor it wont effect anything
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me...i forgot my kwalletmanager password
[01:16] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Move or delete ~/.kde/share/apps/kwalletmanager and it will reset everything
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Including which passwords you saved?
[01:16] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Actually that's ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet
[01:17] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I believe so.  I've done that before and it reset everything
[01:17] <DaSkreech> neat :)
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> one more, how can I edit Kopete to look more like Gaim, i don't like the way my buddy list looks
[01:17] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Use gaim, which is better IMO :P
[01:18] <DaSkreech> Yeah Kopete just always barely saves it's butt
[01:18] <DaSkreech> It's really a young IM clinet
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> got it. configure appearence >> contact list >>
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> contact display mode >> detailed
[01:20] <cpk2> Linux_Galore: didnt work, didnt even make a new kmenueditrc
[01:21] <cpk2> however I found out ctrl alt delete gives me a logout menu and stuff
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: duh thats the config file for the menu editor
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> cpk2: just run the menu editor and set it back to the defaults
[01:24] <cpk2> kmenueditor doesnt have a "defaults" that i can see
[01:25] <sorush20> I have windows installed first  .. evertime I try to install grub it happenes with out any problems but I still can' t get grub to boot
[01:26] <KrAmMeR_> does anyone have a problem with adept getting locked?
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Hah ahaha
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: You got beat http://www.getdeb.net/
[01:31] <DaSkreech> KrAmMeR_: From time to time
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> how do you fix that?
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> cuz i cant download any packages
[01:31] <KrAmMeR_> cuz it says its locked
[01:32] <KrAmMeR_> i tried to kill the process
[01:35] <DaSkreech> KrAmMeR_: And all adept processes are dead?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get update --configure -a from the command line
[01:38] <CainMadness> Has anyone seen AWOS on lately>?
[01:38] <CainMadness> *?
[01:38] <KrAmMeR_> DaSkreech: that worked
[01:38] <KrAmMeR_> thanks
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Sure
[01:39] <DaSkreech> !seen awos
[01:39] <ubotu> I haven't seen awos recently
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Nope
[01:39] <CainMadness> Hmm.
[01:39] <Conhe> !nvidia
[01:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <CainMadness> !seen awosdev
[01:40] <ubotu> I last saw AWOSDev<EMAIL_ADDRESS>3h 15m 37s ago, quiting: "Konversation terminated!"
[01:40] <CainMadness> Thought I forgot a part of his SN.
[01:42] <jmichaelx> i have an older pci nvidia graphics card in a PC, but i cannot get x to start using the kubuntu live CD... would anyone know how to get around this? the card is a geforce mx 4000
[01:44] <joshua__> I don't know about the live CD but I have a GeForce MX4000 PCI in my computer with edgy and it's working nicely
[01:44] <joshua__> you will need to use either the nv or nvidia driver
[01:44] <jmichaelx> maybe i just need to download edgy...
[01:45] <joshua__> depending if the live CD has the binary nvidia module or not...
[01:45] <joshua__> edgy seems fairly stable so go for it
[01:50] <sorush20> is there a resume function on downloading iso images?
[01:52] <twenty2sixty> hi! can anyone name me a gui-tool (an editor) that can search for - say, the occurence of a text-string - not only in 1 document, but in a whole folder of docs?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> sorush20: how were you downloading it?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> twenty2sixty: Umm GuiGrep? :-)
[01:55] <joshua__> sorush20: try using wget's -c option
[01:56] <twenty2sixty> DaSkreech: It is not in my repos ... Is it not a part of (K)ubuntu?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> twenty2sixty: Oh it doesn't exist. :)
[01:56] <DaSkreech> I guess  Quanta might do that
[01:58] <digivore> do i need to install and configure samba before i get a VNC connection working?
[01:58] <joshua__> twenty2sixty: if you're using kubuntu you can just use the Find Files/Folders (look in the K Menu)
[01:59] <joshua__> digivore: VNC doesn't rely on samba
[01:59] <digivore> trying to view my windows machine from my kubuntu.   installed the windows version of tightvnc server onthe windows machine.
[02:01] <joshua__> do you get an error message when connecting vnc client to the windows machine?
[02:02] <joshua__> also make sure that windows firewall isn't blocking the tcp port (I think it's 5900 or 5800)
[02:02] <digivore> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: No route to host
[02:02] <digivore> Unable to connect to VNC server
[02:03] <digivore> i want to be typing in the IP address of the windows machine right?
[02:03] <joshua__> are you able to ping the machine?
[02:03] <joshua__> I would think it's the windows firewall
[02:05] <MattKrass> I hope I don't get shot for this, but how well do fifth gen ipods mix with kubuntu
[02:06] <jmichaelx> can edgy be used as a live CD?
[02:06] <jmichaelx> at this point...
[02:06] <NeoSaki> jmichaelx: yes
[02:06] <jmichaelx> MattKrass: i have used my 5th gen ipod with kubuntu
[02:06] <jmichaelx> NeoSaki: ty
[02:07] <NeoSaki> npo
[02:08] <twenty2sixty> joshua_: Is this able to search inside plaintext-files?
[02:08] <MattKrass> jmichaelx: how well does it work? is it a hack or natively supported? what software did you use it with?
[02:09] <joshua__> it claims to match files with certain contents
[02:09] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: What exactly do you want it to do?
[02:09] <MattKrass> download legal music and movies to it
[02:09] <MattKrass> still trying to find an open source iTMS
[02:09] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: AmaroK should connect to your iPod just fine
[02:10] <joshua__> it only shows the first matching line of each file though
[02:11] <morghanphoenix> AmaroK works great with the iPod, but I'm not sure what you need to access the music store.
[02:11] <NeoSaki> !ipod
[02:11] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:11] <NeoSaki> !itms
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <NeoSaki> :S
[02:11] <NeoSaki> I tried :D
[02:12] <MattKrass> darn
[02:12] <morghanphoenix> Also try looking at GTKpod, not as slick as AmaroK, but still a nice iPod updater.
[02:12] <MattKrass> to be fair I could probably grab a lot of music off the campus network (clarkson u) but I'd rather not limit myself to not
[02:12] <MattKrass> being able to buy
[02:13] <NeoSaki> you could use the crossover office
[02:13] <NeoSaki> to do it >_>
[02:13] <morghanphoenix> I've seen sites where you can buy MP3s and download them from the web with no software interface.
[02:14] <MattKrass> I suppose...
[02:14] <MattKrass> how much is that again?
[02:14] <MattKrass> and does itunes/cedega work well? if I'm gonna pay for it I might as well get my games running too
[02:15] <DaSkreech> MattKrass: emusic?
[02:15] <larson9999> my favorite p2p site is the public library!
[02:15] <DaSkreech> MattKrass: And Umm Magnatune I think
[02:15] <morghanphoenix> I like the library, and ktorrent, and frostwire etc.
[02:15] <MattKrass> emusic/magnatune?
[02:16] <digivore_> how can i ping a range of ip addresses?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> nearly open and free stores
[02:16] <DaSkreech> digivore_ For loop?
[02:16] <graft> why do yo uwant to ping a range if ip address?
[02:17] <graft> ergh... typos
[02:17] <morghanphoenix> I wish my iPod was older, I'd install linux on it, it'd be so nice to have ogg support on my iPod.
[02:17] <MattKrass> I mostly use my itunes account for TV shows though
[02:17] <MattKrass> hence the video ipod and wanting to be able to play secured tv eps
[02:17] <digivore_> wireless network to see if anyone is on it.
[02:17] <MattKrass> and beign able to buy them too..
[02:17] <NeoSaki> He's Wardriving !
[02:17] <NeoSaki> :d
[02:17] <NeoSaki> lol
[02:18] <graft> um... can't you just scan for ARP packets, etc.?
[02:18] <graft> much safer that way - passive
[02:18] <digivore_> how would i do that?
[02:18] <graft> ethereal
[02:18] <NeoSaki> actually I need to find out how to find the wireless network around me
[02:18] <NeoSaki> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:19] <digivore_> yah i tried ethereal a bit, but only came up with my own traffic.
[02:19] <graft> /sbin/iwlist <interface> scan
[02:19] <morghanphoenix> I keep my SSID broadcast off and wep on.
[02:19] <graft> digivore_: in promiscuous mode?
[02:19] <digivore_> i believe it was promiscuous mode....
[02:19] <graft> digivore_: if other people are on the network, ethereal will definitely show it - i've watched people's traffic before, seen what html pages they were downloading, etc.
[02:20] <graft> and it'll definitely show ARP requests
[02:21] <digivore_> graft: i will try this right now
[02:21] <MattKrass> anyone have a price for crossover office? or know if cedega can run itunes?
[02:22] <digivore_> some NICs can't do promiscuous mode right?
[02:23] <NeoSaki> MattKrass: $40
[02:23] <graft> yeh
[02:23] <graft> but most can
[02:23] <NeoSaki> but it allows you to run alot of software
[02:23] <graft> you ought to get an error if you cant
[02:23] <NeoSaki> Cedega is a headache
[02:24] <NeoSaki> anyone know how to setup a wireless network using a MAC address of the router?
[02:24] <graft> NeoSaki: howzat?
[02:24] <MattKrass> alright one last question
[02:25] <MattKrass> COO, can that ru ngames like cedega can?
[02:25] <morghanphoenix> It work for commercial windows games too?
[02:26] <NeoSaki> Yes you can run commercial games in Crossover
[02:26] <NeoSaki> from windows
[02:26] <NeoSaki> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat/?cat_id=2
[02:26] <NeoSaki> theres the list
[02:26] <NeoSaki> brb, going to reboot
[02:27] <MattKrass> cool
[02:27] <MattKrass> but I found something else interesting
[02:28] <MattKrass> supposedly there's a linux iTMS "client" called sharpmusique
[02:38] <larson9999> i don't run too many windows programs but wine runs everything i need.
[02:50] <ubuntu> hello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong
[02:54] <tony_> Is there any way that i can Rest file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????
[02:55] <tony_> Rest =  Reset
[02:55] <ubuntu> hello I would like to share a folder called trc, like this sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc ~/New -o urd = ubuntu , but i just recieve information is something wrong
[02:57] <tony_> Is there any way that i can Reset file folder permission to what was originally when i installed Ubuntu ????
[03:03] <thewheat> Is any utilities to check a Mac HFS drive that is connected via target mode to an non-Mac machine running kubuntu?
[03:04] <hoboi> tony no there is no memory as to what they were as far as i know
[03:06] <david> I'm trying to write to my xp drive and this is the line that i wrote in my fstab, "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    auto user exec rw,umask=007,gid=46 0       1", can someone tell me whats wrong?
[03:08] <hoboi> david  did you mount it
[03:10] <david> before i changed ti it mounted fine, after i changed it when i goto the mount point its empty
[03:10] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:11] <Omar> Pls I just need to know how to have more permissions
[03:13] <hoboi> david  so mount does not complain and  df -k  shows it mounted
[03:14] <hoboi> david  do   df -k and make sure it is not mounted twice
[03:18] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:18] <Omar> Hello , can you guys do me a big favor, I am trying to copy some files to a machine in my net and I got a permission error, how can i mount with more permission , I did this: sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/trc /home/ubuntu/New -o urd=ubuntu
[03:18] <hoboi> Omar: did the mount fail
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: no I mounted it
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: normally
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: but I can-t move -em
[03:20] <Omar> hoboi: no premissions
[03:21] <Omar> hoboi: both disks are mounted maybe the other one is the problem right
[03:22] <hoboi> Omar: since i am not currently running  ubuntu distro tell me what  urd=ubuntu  does.  my mount man page does not show it
[03:23] <Omar> hoboi: this is what I did  to mount the first disco: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:23] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i cant recall eever using   cifs
[03:23] <Omar> hoboi: should I put something else,
[03:23] <hoboi> Omar: what are the permsissions of  New and the uid and owner of New
[03:24] <Omar> urd=ubuntu also
[03:24] <Omar> hoboi: urd=ubuntu also
[03:24] <hoboi> Omar: are u using   sudo  cp ...
[03:25] <Omar> hoboi: yes
[03:25] <Omar> hoboi: tell me how to unmount this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:26] <Omar> hoboi: and how to mount it wiht permissiones
[03:27] <hoboi> Omar:  umount /mnt/ubunturoot  to unmount  but that may not be your problem
[03:27] <hoboi> Omar: what error r u getting
[03:27] <tony_> I have two partition, one xp other ubuntu.. can i reinstall ubuntu without damaging xp ?
[03:28] <Omar> hoboi: Access denied to /mnt/ubunturoot/home/omar/Libros
[03:28] <hoboi> Omar: do you have such a directory
[03:29] <Omar> hoboi: yes sure
[03:29] <hoboi> tony_: should be able to as long as you tell ubuntu to install over the existing ubuntu
[03:29] <tony_> thanks.. this permission thing withlinux is frustrting
[03:30] <tony_> my Grub will be the same or do i have to modify it somewhat ??
[03:30] <hoboi> tony_:  permissions take a little getting use to
[03:30] <tobias__> SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO);
[03:30] <tobias__> oh
[03:30] <tony_> developers need to make it much easier
[03:30] <tobias__> wrong window
[03:30] <hoboi> tony_: your grub will be overwritten by the installer and it should look as it does now
[03:31] <tony_> thanks.. im back to same place as last week.. ((( pulling my hair out )))
[03:31] <hoboi> tony_: actually it is as easy as i can remember in 14 years
[03:31] <Omar> hoboi: yes sure
[03:31] <Omar> hoboi: I need to know how to mount with all permissions
[03:31] <hoboi> tony_: better expunge the XP and stay w/ub
[03:31] <tony_> yes.. i use ftp program for window , there i can change permssion of my file and folder, ( linux server ) and window it shows the permission number such as  775 etc
[03:32] <tony_> i think that would be a better idea
[03:32] <hoboi> Omar: the permissions are determined by the receiving directorys permissions and ownership
[03:32] <tony_> thats where the problme is ..
[03:32] <hoboi> Omar: what are the perms of  Libros
[03:32] <tony_> there are users and groups
[03:33] <tony_> yet there is no descriptive guide as to what they do and how they effect entire system
[03:33] <tony_> i thought desktop would be much easier to use
[03:34] <hoboi> tony_:  desktop is controlled by permissions and ownership at it lowest level
[03:34] <tony_> like window ..
[03:34] <tony_> i set my self as admin
[03:34] <Omar> hoboi: libros is in a disk that I mounted like this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[03:34] <tony_> but yet i can not delet folder
[03:34] <Omar> hoboi: maybe is mounted without permissions
[03:34] <tony_> no clue as why
[03:35] <tony_> i tried other suggestion using command..
[03:35] <tony_> but that aint working either
[03:35] <hoboi> Omar: i know but what are the permissions on the libros  directory
[03:35] <Omar> hoboi: every permission
[03:35] <hoboi> tony_: what are you trying to delete
[03:36] <hoboi> Omar: does that mean  -drwxrwxrwx  or something different
[03:36] <tony_> i copied oscommer in /var/www/   try to access trough browser , it tries to downlaod the folder , and when i try to dele , i get access denied
[03:37] <tony_> folder permission, Ownership user : root GRoup : admin
[03:37] <hoboi> tony_: who owns  oscommer  and what is the apache2  group and uid values
[03:37] <Omar> hoboi: it has every permission, root, root, I can even erase there, but no in my hda1
[03:38] <Omar> hoboi: mean what
[03:38] <tony_> HOW can i check Apache2 UID ??
[03:39] <hoboi> tony_: cat /etc/group  | grep -i apache  for group
[03:39] <hoboi> tony_: cat /etc/passwd |grep -i  apache  for  uid
[03:40] <hoboi> Omar: the  ACL's have been changing in the last several years for security reasons and I have not kept up and since I run as root always i dont have there problems
[03:40] <tony_> humm, i entered those command, i get nothing
[03:40] <hoboi> Omar: the short answer is i may not be able to help you
[03:41] <Omar> hoboi: pls teach me how to erase, move and copy in root
[03:41] <hoboi> tony_: did you install the apache2 server
[03:41] <tony_> yes. with php and mysql
[03:41] <tony_> i guess, im going to reinstall ubuntu..
[03:41] <tony_> for 10th time :)
[03:42] <hoboi> Omar: to become root execute   sudo su   but be forwarned you could mess things up
[03:42] <tony_> i guess, im getting one step closer to go back with window .. err
[03:42] <hoboi> tony_: no need to reinstall that is what  apache logs are for
[03:42] <Omar> hoboi: but I have to move my files
[03:42] <hoboi> Omar: then move them a little at a time
[03:43] <tony_> im sure i scrwed up with permission somehow .. reason for ubuntu installation is to have access to apache and php , mysql
[03:43] <hoboi> tony_: execute   ps -eaf  |grep -i apache  and see what comes up
[03:44] <hoboi> tony_: you should get several processes named  httpd
[03:44] <tony_> i get www-data
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: how
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: you mean , normally
[03:44] <Omar> hoboi: ok
[03:45] <hoboi> tony_: what is in the extreme right of the display
[03:45] <tony_> lol.. my user , group window is frozen .. heheh. remind me good old windows day
[03:45] <tony_> uer/sbin/apache
[03:46] <tony_> 00:00:00
[03:47] <hoboi> tony_: wish is knew how to use pastebin  i am new to  irc  and dont know how to tell you to grab part of the display and send it to a place i can view it
[03:47] <hoboi> anyone can tell me how to use pastebin?
[03:47] <Slynderdale> Just paste and click submit?
[03:48] <tony_> is cool, thanks for the help, im going to reinstall ubuntu again , if didn't work, i wil install apache2triad for window and stay with microcrap
[03:48] <hoboi> Slynderdale: thanks
[03:48] <hoboi> tony_: grap one of the lines from  ps  and  send it to me here
[03:49] <tony_> thanks.. is easier to reintall everything :) .
[03:49] <hoboi> tony_:  no dont go there you are close
[03:49] <tony_> lol
[03:49] <hoboi> tony_: ok
[03:49] <M4X1MUM> how do i set default browser?
[03:50] <tony_> will reinstall tomorrow and will try apache again . hope works this time
[03:50] <Slynderdale> hoboi: http://pastebin.com/
[03:50] <Slynderdale> Basicly just paste what you want there and click submit and post the link
[03:50] <Slynderdale> Its simple
[03:53] <morla> hi, why are white transparent mouse cursors dark grey on my box?
[03:53] <hoboi> Slynderdale: thanks i am basically using one line at the bottom of the  konversation  window so i will look at the url you posted  thanks
[03:54] <Omar> hoboi: I am trying this sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot -o unmask=000
[03:54] <Omar> hoboi: but I still got an error
[03:55] <genioreal> anyone knows a good Hard Drive Data Recovery Software that runs on LINUX?
[03:56] <hoboi> Omar: 000 is no permissions  if you want to try it that way  use  777
[03:57] <Omar> hoboi: thans
[03:58] <Omar> hoboi: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,  missing codepage or other error    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try     dmesg | tail  or so    :(
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm i do NOT think you combine umask= with an ext3 filesystem
[03:59] <Dr_willis>  /mnt/ubunturoot   exists allready dont it?
[04:00] <hoboi> Dr_willis: i dont remember that one either  -o  rw  whatever
[04:00] <Dr_willis> well ext2/3 has its own permissions system  using the normal linux way.. vfat,  needs options to 'simulate' the linux way..
[04:00] <Dr_willis> for lack of better words. :P
[04:01] <Dr_willis> try it without the   -o stuff
[04:01] <hoboi> Dr_willis: since i dont mount much vfat i am in the dark  the recipient is  omar  perhaps you can help him out
[04:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:02] <Dr_willis> omar try it without the   -o stuff
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:02] <hoboi> whats that smell :)
[04:02] <Omar> Dr_willis: same error
[04:03] <RawSewage> is there any way to fix this annoyance:  right-clicking something usually requires some twitch skill, because when you right-click, it usually blinks on and off really fast, so you have to try it multiple times, or hold down the right-click and be tricky
[04:03] <RawSewage> does that make sense
[04:03] <Dr_willis> Omar,  lets start with the basics... the direcoty /mnt/ubunturoot   does exist?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Dr_willis> twitch skill?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting
[04:04] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes my freind, I am mounting that hda1 there, but with little permissions
[04:04] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:05] <Dr_willis> works? or not?
[04:05] <Omar> Dr_willis: perfectly
[04:05] <RawSewage> yeah, for example, I want to right click a file in Konqueror, to rename or something, and I have to right-click a few times, because the right-click menu usually blinks on and off really fast
[04:05] <Dr_willis> Omar,  so when you try to mess with the permissions it fails to work?
[04:05] <Omar> Dr_willis: yes
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Omar,  Im thinking that the umask option (and others) are  ONLY for the vfat filesystem and perhaps a few others.. Not for ext2/3
[04:06] <Omar> Dr_willis: what can I do, use vfat_
[04:07] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, do you understand now
[04:07] <hoboi> Omar: what type of file system is on /dev/hda1  windows or  linux
[04:07] <RawSewage> I dread right-clicking things now
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Omar,  no idea what you are trying to do really.. you mount ext2/3 without  using that option
[04:07] <RawSewage> It's more of an artforom than a computer command
[04:08] <Omar> Dr_willis: used to be linux
[04:08] <RawSewage> You asked me
[04:08] <RawSewage> why did you ask
[04:08] <Omar> hoboi: used to be linux
[04:08] <hoboi> Omar: did you create it
[04:08] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  personall y i find the click to rename - feature to be brain dead. but i cant say that ive ever had any other right clicking  issues.. i must be skilled in click-fu
[04:08] <Omar> Dr_willis: I can mounted but I can-t move files or folders, or erase -em
[04:09] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, ok
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Omar,  chown/chmod the files on the drive to be owned by the proper user. or do it as root.
[04:09] <Omar> hoboi: I am using a liveCD in a ubuntu
[04:09] <nikon> can anyone help with samba issues, i have exhausted internet searches.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  it almost sounds like you rmouse is messed up. :P
[04:10] <hoboi> Omar:  execut this command   mount |grep -i hda1    and sent me the results
[04:10] <RawSewage> its more like other processes cause the menu to disappear
[04:10] <Omar> hoboi: but my ubuntu doesn-t open , I am moving everything to another machine in order to format and use kubuntu
[04:10] <RawSewage> such as downloading things
[04:10] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  i mean.. i right click and the menu stays up untill i click on somthing.. or right click again,, Hmm...
[04:10] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  Hmm... thats.. interesting
[04:10] <RawSewage> I right click, and see the menu for a brief instant before it disappears
[04:11] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,  ive seen where dma being disabled for the drives make the system/mouse move erraticaly.
[04:11] <Omar> hoboi: nothing happened in my console , but I can not access to my disk anymore
[04:11] <hoboi> Omar: you mean  mount |grep -i hda1   does not return anything
[04:12] <RawSewage> Dr_willis, ok, thanks anyway
[04:12] <Dr_willis> RawSewage,   i cant get a similer action unless i purposly click outside the menu that pops up
[04:12] <Omar> hoboi: not just back to the console line
[04:12] <hoboi> RawSewage: change mice and see what happens
[04:12] <KrAmMeR_> what program would i use to install themes?
[04:12] <RawSewage> I dont have another mouse
[04:13] <hoboi> Omar: what is returned if you do   mount   only
[04:13] <hoboi> RawSewage: scratch that
[04:14] <Omar> hoboi: lot of things, can I past -em here
[04:15] <hoboi> Omar: just tell me if one of them of them starts with   /dev/hda1
[04:15] <burnninator> Is it a known issue in kubuntu that it takes forever to do any operations on an sd card, writing or mounting or anything?
[04:15] <Omar> hoboi: /dev/hda1 on /mnt/ubunturoot type ext3 (rw)
[04:16] <Omar> hoboi: but when it-s not mounted nothing
[04:16] <fignew> burnninator: it's just you
[04:16] <fignew> burnninator: however, you might have luck disabling/enabling DMA
[04:16] <burnninator> it takes like 10 minutes to even unmount any flash memory, i tried other cards and other card readers/writers
[04:16] <fignew> USB?
[04:17] <hoboi> Omar: ok you see the  (rw)  you have  read/write to that slice so the problem is in ownership or directory/file permissions lets go there next
[04:17] <burnninator> one is onboard and the other card reader is usb
[04:17] <burnninator> the onboard one could be usb also i guess.
[04:17] <hoboi> Omar: execute  ls -ld   /mnt and tell me what it says
[04:17] <fignew> burnninator: try it with the kubuntu 6.10 beta live cf
[04:17] <fignew> cd*
[04:17] <fignew> and see if it's fixed
[04:17] <Omar> hoboi: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 60 2006-10-01 22:50 /mnt
[04:18] <fignew> however, I can tell you, it's most likely your hardware
[04:18] <burnninator> how would i check if its a dma problem?
[04:18] <Omar> hoboi: the mnt is blue
[04:18] <burnninator> where do i check to see if its enabled/disabled?
[04:18] <hoboi> Omar: ok now   ls -ld /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: nevermind that
[04:19] <Omar> hoboi: drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2006-10-01 02:56 /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: if it's also happening with usb, then DMA has nothing to do with it
[04:19] <fignew> burnninator: does it happen with CDs too?
[04:19] <burnninator> it doesn't happen with my usb hd
[04:19] <burnninator> no, cd's/dvd's work fine
[04:20] <burnninator> burning is fine @ 8x on dvd's
[04:20] <burnninator> its just the media
[04:20] <fignew> I'd just wait and try Edgy and see if it's fixed
[04:20] <burnninator> flash media
[04:20] <fignew> wait... is it the same SD/CF card each time?
[04:20] <fignew> cause it could be a busted card
[04:20] <hoboi> Omar: ok now a little test  execute    cat /dev/null > /mnt/ubunturoot/test
[04:21] <hoboi> Omar: then   ls -l /mnt/ubunturoot/test
[04:21] <kanak> ps x
[04:21] <burnninator> the card works fine on my powerbook, and my windows machine
[04:21] <burnninator> and it works fine if i boot into windows on this computer
[04:22] <fignew> yes, but have you tried different cards?
[04:22] <fignew> I have some cards that work fine in my camera, but not in my PDA...
[04:22] <burnninator> im lookin for one.
[04:22] <hoboi> Slynderdale: back to pasetbin another question or two if you please
[04:22] <Slynderdale> Go ahead
[04:23] <hoboi> Slynderdale: ok so i put text in the box and send to  me??  is that correct
[04:23] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:23] <hoboi> Omar: hang on a min
[04:23] <Omar> hoboi: ls: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: No such file or directory the second
[04:24] <Slynderdale> hoboi: Thats basicly it, don't need to sign up or anything. Put the text there, submit and save the link or send it to soemone
[04:25] <fignew> you see burnninator, linux may be detecting something wrong (such as corruption) that windows isn't...
[04:25] <fignew> so therefore it checks the data before it unmounts
[04:25] <fignew> ^^ just an idea
[04:25] <burnninator> i just tried a 1gb card, and it wrote the files better but its been doing "safely remove" for about 2 minutes now
[04:26] <fignew> is it blinking?
[04:26] <burnninator> yeah, really fast
[04:27] <fignew> was it a big file?
[04:27] <hoboi> Omar: ok did you put sudo in front of that cat command
[04:27] <burnninator> 200mb
[04:27] <fignew> ok
[04:27] <burnninator> its still going
[04:27] <burnninator> its kinda frustrating
[04:27] <fignew> when it's done: remount it, write another large file, go to command prompt and type sync, then "safely remove"
[04:28] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:28] <burnninator> it even takes a minute or 2 to delete a file.
[04:29] <fignew> sounds like a bad card
[04:29] <fignew> like I said
[04:29] <fignew> try a different card
[04:29] <hoboi> Omar: execute    sudo  cat  /dev/null >/mnt/ubunturoot/test  does it fail
[04:29] <burnninator> this is a different card
[04:29] <burnninator> i have a 1gb and a 2gb, same thing
[04:29] <nikon> when i try and connect my windows to my linux i get "error: connection status, limited or no connectivity"
[04:30] <fignew> burnninator: what brand
[04:30] <fignew> ?
[04:30] <burnninator> sandisk
[04:30] <fignew> hmm
[04:30] <fignew> try it with the instructions I gave
[04:30] <burnninator> like i said, they work fine on everything else
[04:30] <fignew> the sync command
[04:30] <burnninator> i am doing the sync thing right now
[04:30] <burnninator> its blinking fast again
[04:31] <fignew> good, wait until it's done
[04:31] <fignew> then do remove
[04:31] <burnninator> what exactly does that do?
[04:31] <fignew> writes the changes
[04:31] <Dr_willis> nikon,  what is saying that?
[04:31] <burnninator> it shouldn't take this long, right?
[04:31] <fignew> correct
[04:31] <burnninator> wierd
[04:32] <nikon> my windows network neiborhood
[04:32] <fignew> nikon: when you plug your windows computer directly into your linux box?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> nikon,  only time ive seen a message like that under windows - is when the windows machne was unable to get a proper ip/dns/gateway information from the dhcp server
[04:32] <hoboi> Omar: what happened
[04:32] <fignew> Dr_willis: I think that's a windows error
[04:33] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denie
[04:33] <nikon> yes
[04:33] <fignew> yes to my question?
[04:33] <nikon> yes
[04:33] <burnninator> doing all this(what seems like) unnecessary writing is probably shortening the life of my card right?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> fignew,  yep..  normally ive seen that when my dhcp server goes down.. or the cable is unplugged/messed up
[04:33] <hoboi> Omar: hmm  strange  you did use  sudo  correct?
[04:34] <fignew> burnninator: not really, they're rated for 500,000 writes
[04:34] <Dr_willis> nikon,  clarify your answers. :P    For your network. how are you connected the 2 pcs together?
[04:34] <kanak> hey guys
[04:34] <burnninator> sync is still going
[04:34] <fignew> burnninator: anyways, the card doesn't fail all at once
[04:34] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:34] <nikon> yes box to box
[04:34] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:34] <Omar> hoboi: yes
[04:34] <kanak> thast free
[04:34] <Dr_willis> nikon,  you DID use a crossover cable?
[04:34] <burnninator> alright its done
[04:34] <fignew> nikon: are you trying to get online
[04:35] <nikon> no just network between two comps
[04:35] <hoboi> Omar:
[04:35] <kanak> whts best program to use to  downlaod music and vids?
[04:35] <burnninator> i did the safely remove thing and that part didn't take forever this time, only the sync thing did
[04:35] <hoboi> cd /mnt/ubunturoot
[04:35] <fignew> kanak: use your brain
[04:35] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:35] <hoboi> Omar: then do  ls -la
[04:35] <kanak> use my brain?
[04:35] <nikon> im runnning linux on my laptop and windows on my home comp
[04:35] <Dr_willis> nikon,  ok lets reclarify this.. You got 2 pc's each has a network card.. you have a normal network cable going from one network card to the other pc's network card?
[04:35] <nikon> yes
[04:35] <Dr_willis> That wont work. :P
[04:36] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:36] <Dr_willis> You need either a crossover cable.. or a hub/switch/router in the middle and use 2 cables
[04:36] <nikon> what do i have to do
[04:36] <kanak> Can you set a network bridge on here?
[04:36] <nikon> ok
[04:36] <kanak> I have 2 Ethernet ports.. (2 Cards)
[04:36] <nikon> thank you
[04:36] <kanak> One Built in and one thats a pci card..
[04:36] <Dr_willis> I suggest getting a low end router. :)  they are handy
[04:36] <fignew> burnninator: you see... when linux writes something, unless "sync" is specified in /etc/fstab, it will act like it's done, and continue writing the changes later (when it's not as busy)
[04:36] <kanak> Can I set up a Network Bridge?
[04:36] <M4X1MUM> how to set default browser?
[04:37] <M4X1MUM> how to set default browser in kubuntu anyone?
[04:37] <Omar> hoboi: lot of things again
[04:37] <nikon> thanks for all the help
[04:37] <Zaire> anyone know what mysql package I need to use phpbb
[04:38] <hoboi> Omar: ok execute this   >test   and tell me what happens
[04:38] <burnninator> so, should i add sync to fstab?
[04:38] <fignew> burnninator: no
[04:38] <hoboi> Omar: that is  right arrow no space and the word test
[04:38] <fignew> Zaire: PHP4/5
[04:38] <fignew> ?
[04:39] <fignew> burnninator: It looks like there's some corruption going on somewhere
[04:39] <Zaire> php buletin board not plain php
[04:39] <burnninator> so what can i do to make this process faster, i should be able to put the card in, write a file, and eject it without any hangups
[04:39] <Zaire> basically Im trying to install a forum but its not seeing mysql-server
[04:39] <fignew> Zaire: yes, but what version of PHP is it running on??
[04:39] <Zaire> 5
[04:40] <fignew> burnninator: sorry, I'm out of ideas...
[04:40] <burnninator> ill try the 6.1 beta
[04:40] <burnninator> thanks for the help
[04:40] <fignew> :/
[04:40] <fignew> Zaire: php5-mysql
[04:40] <Slynderdale> Zaire: Did you install/compile MySQL and made sure its process is running and set up correctly?
[04:41] <Zaire> I used apt-get so I wouldn't have to install manually
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi: like this
[04:42] <fignew> do you have that package already?
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ >test
[04:42] <Omar> hoboi: nothing happened
[04:42] <pibarnas> is there a way for installing kde-3.5.4 in kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS without beaking the whole system? A tutorial, something like that? Could someone help me?
[04:42] <jpiccolo> is there a better gui tool for archiving? than ark
[04:42] <Zaire> not the php5-mysql I just got that
[04:42] <fignew> should work then :/
[04:42] <fignew> wait
[04:43] <fignew> do ps aux | grep "mysql"
[04:43] <fignew> and see what that returns
[04:43] <hoboi> Omar: ok now execute   ls -l  test  and tell me what happens
[04:43] <fignew> pibarnas: yep, upgrade to 6.10
[04:44] <Zaire> ok that command gave me a screen of stuff that confuses the hell out of me
[04:44] <pibarnas> ;)
[04:44] <Omar> hoboi: -rw-r--r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 0 2006-10-02 02:41 test
[04:45] <fignew> pibarnas: really though, you're just boud to mess stuff up if you upgrade KDE yourself
[04:45] <fignew> trustme, I've been in similar situations
[04:45] <Zaire> An error has occurred during installation
[04:45] <Zaire> The PHP configuration on your server doesn't support the database type that you chose
[04:45] <fignew> was that the same error as before?
[04:46] <hoboi> Omar: so now we know you have permissions in that directory  execute   rm  test  to remove the  test file
[04:46] <Zaire> yep
[04:46] <graft> pibarnas: just upgrade to edgy if you want 3.5.4
[04:46] <graft> err, yeah, what everyone else said
[04:46] <fignew> Zaire: try sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[04:46] <fignew> or something like that
[04:46] <hoboi> Omar: now execute   sudo  cat /dev/null  > /mnt/ubunturoot/test    and  tell me what happens
[04:46] <pibarnas> okay, thank you guys.
[04:47] <Omar> hoboi: bash: /mnt/ubunturoot/test: Permission denied
[04:47] <Zaire> close its apache2 restart
[04:47] <fignew> :P
[04:47] <fignew> meh at apache... I run lighttpd instead :)
[04:48] <hoboi> Omar:  execute   id   and tell me what is returned
[04:48] <Dr_willis> you dare to 'meh' apache!!!
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Blasphmy!
[04:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:48] <fignew> :-O
[04:48] <Omar> hoboi: uid=999(ubuntu) gid=999(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin),999(ubuntu)
[04:49] <Zaire> apache is the number 1 server out there
[04:49] <Zaire> and restarting it gave me something different i'll say that much
[04:49] <Slynderdale> Dr_willis: IIS is better ;p
[04:49] <Slynderdale> Just kidding
[04:50] <Zaire> hardly lol its crap
[04:50] <hoboi> Omar: lets open a private channel here goes
[04:50] <Dr_willis> I rember seeing a Micro web server for embeded devices - it was just a tad bigger then the cat-5 conector jack. :)
[04:51] <hoboi> Omar: click on the  hoboi tab
[04:51] <M4X1MUM> how do i install an nvidia driver?
[04:51] <fignew> anyways, as I was saying... lighttpd > apache
[04:51] <Slynderdale> I read an article of someone setting up a small webserver on their PDA over a Wireless connection ;p
[04:52] <mark__> help
[04:52] <Omar> hoboi: I am there talking i guess I have to register or something
[04:52] <Zaire> its telling me cannot connect to database
[04:52] <hoboi> Omar: interesting i dont see you hold on
[04:53] <mark__> I created a root account in ubuntu, now my sound is locked only to that user, how do I change it?
[04:53] <hoboi> Omar: try it again
[04:54] <Pupeno> !mp3
[04:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:54] <Omar> hoboi: I am talking
[04:54] <Dr_willis> mark__,  only to the root user?
[04:55] <hoboi> Omar: yes be we are not seeing each other hold on
[04:55] <Omar> hoboi: I think I gotta pay
[04:55] <mark__> yes- I can hear sound up until the login splash- which does not let me log in as root
[04:56] <mark__> then under my user acct, sound is disabled
[04:56] <mark__> when I have looked for the reason, it says only root can use the device
[04:56] <Dr_willis> thats odd.
[04:56] <hoboi> anyone know why i cannot open a private channel between  omar  and  myself
[04:56] <mark__> yes
[04:56] <Zaire> what would make it so the phpbb install couldn't connect to the database
[04:56] <Dr_willis> mark__,  how did you 'create' a root account?
[04:57] <mark__> I was doing fine with breezy but when I upgraded to drake it messed up
[04:57] <Zaire> its easy you just type sudo passwd root
[04:57] <mark__> well, the first account I made during install was called root
[04:57] <fignew> hoboi: his/your nick has to be registered
[04:57] <Dr_willis> hoboi,  thers some security settings on this server where peopl ehave to both be identified to msg? not sure..
[04:57] <hoboi> fignew: ok mine perhaps his is not thanks
[04:57] <Dr_willis> mark__,  EGADS you dident tell the installer to make  'root' as the first account?!
[04:57] <RawSewage> Anyone know how I can create my own nzb files
[04:57] <hoboi> thanks guys
[04:57] <mark__> I am a throwback, I have to have a root account to separate my admin from other functions
[04:58] <mark__> but I did not expect my sound to be affected
[04:58] <kutan> Can someone give me the name of a midi to ogg converter?
[04:58] <kutan> :x
[04:58] <hilltop> Hello all, I noted than kubuntu liveCD has kwrite at teh command line but I didn't see it in the menu. Same thing when I added kde to my GNOME ubuntu installed on HD.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> mark__,  you did not enter a 'normal' user name at the installer question then eh?
[04:58] <mark__> no
[04:58] <kutan> Or just any sound conversion software that includes MIDI and OGG format
[04:58] <hoboi> Omar: have you executed   the following commands   /nick  omar    then   /msg nickserv register  <passwd>  to register your  omar  name
[04:59] <Omar> hoboi: nop
[04:59] <mark__> when I first ran ubuntu after install, I had to drop out of login, create a new user with my name and then give it a passwd
[04:59] <Dr_willis> mark__,  well i thought they fixed that 'issue' in the installer..
[04:59] <hoboi> Omar: then for us to comm on a pvt channel you have to register that way  can you do that
[04:59] <Omar> hoboi: have I now
[04:59] <RawSewage> Anyone know if there's a way to throttle the speed on klibido
[04:59] <Dr_willis> mark__,  you realize that all you had to do to get root working normally was 'sudo passwd ' ? :P
[04:59] <hoboi> Omar: let me know when it is registered and i will open chan
[05:00] <mark__> Yes I know I could have done that now, but I did not know that then
[05:00] <Omar> hoboi: in the console
[05:00] <mark__> but why is my sound locked only to root?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> mark__,  ive heard of others doing similer 'root' thing in the installer.. but i got no idea what to fix/correct it..
[05:00] <fignew> mark
[05:00] <Dr_willis> i would guess the users/groups for the sound devices are not set correctly
[05:00] <hoboi> Omar: no in the irc.freenode  tab  of   knoversation
[05:00] <fignew> mark__: try adding the user to the sound group :)
[05:01] <hoboi> Omar: or what ever node you signed on with
[05:01] <mark__> sound group?
[05:01] <fignew> uh huh
[05:01] <Omar>  /nick  omar
[05:01] <Dr_willis> in /etc/group ---->    audio:x:29:willis
[05:01] <Omar>  /msg nickserv register  <omar>
[05:01] <Dr_willis> willis is my user name. :P
[05:02] <Dr_willis> i got 12 lines in group that have my username
[05:02] <Dr_willis> I think you will find other things broken.
[05:02] <hoboi> Omar: not not here on the irc  node
[05:02] <fignew> hehe... perhaps not sound... audio :)
[05:03] <fignew> no need to mess with /etc/groups
[05:03] <fignew> there's a command
[05:03] <fignew> i believe it's adduser username audio
[05:03] <kane_> is there a way to remove an app and none of the deps?
[05:03] <fignew> or perhaps useradd
[05:03] <hoboi> Omar: depending on the version of  konversation it will be on the bottom in a tab  or on the  left top of window
[05:03] <[renbolicious] > how can i add repos with kubuntu
[05:03] <[renbolicious] > tutorial is only for ubuntu
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !repos
[05:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:04] <Dr_willis> [renbolicious] ,  install synaptic... and follow tutorial is one way
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or use easysource
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or edit the sources.list by hand
[05:04] <mark__> ok- I added myself to audio, how do I activate it? do I have to reboot?
[05:04] <[renbolicious] > last one im trying to avoid
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or fire up adept
[05:04] <fignew> a reboot would def. work
[05:04] <Dr_willis> editing sources.list is trivial.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> its just uncommenting some lines
[05:04] <fignew> but a simple login/out *should* work too
[05:05] <Dr_willis> or backit up, and use the !easysource page
[05:05] <mark__> Thanks for your help I will give it a try... here goes nothing...
[05:05] <hoboi> omar2: looks like you had to change names a little
[05:06] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/group | grep root        --> shows one line for me..  if mark__ has more then that.. he needs to do some more editing. :P
[05:06] <Dr_willis> when he returns
[05:07] <rideout> has ubuntu modified the standard way users/groups work? i can't seem to add my user to a groups, "sudo adduser rideout mytestgroup" work as far as it showing in /etc/goup, but the groups command doesn't show it, nor can i access files with that group
[05:08] <fignew> rideout: never looked too deeply into it... but debian uses the same system
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > how do i install software with kubuntu?
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > what is the command
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > yum?
[05:08] <[renbolicious] > apt get?
[05:08] <rideout> renbolicious: apt-get
[05:09] <Dr_willis> egads...
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:09] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:10] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:10] <M4X1MUM> people how to exit from x?
[05:10] <[renbolicious] > do i need to install certain packages so i can listen to mp3s?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  logout menu item - or alt-ctrl-backspace for a EXIT NOW! sort of thing
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:11] <Dr_willis> [renbolicious] ,  yes.. with some players.. it depends on the players as to what needs to be installed.
[05:11] <Healot> M4X1MUM, terminate/stopping the server? or you just want to get on the virtual terminal?
[05:11] <dme> after reading the about.com entry on adding a harddisk to my system, i have some questions
[05:11] <M4X1MUM> i need to login as root to install driver
[05:11] <dme> it says i have to be logged on as root... true, or will the 'su' command suffice?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  you dont really need to.. 'sudo' works great.
[05:12] <dme> sudo, excuse me
[05:12] <Dr_willis> dme,  sudo works wonders. :)
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> i tried that, and the installer says i have to exit from x
[05:12] <Dr_willis> or sudo -s
[05:12] <dme> thank you, Dw
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  thats not the same as loging in as root
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> ooh
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  what are you installing?
[05:12] <M4X1MUM> nvidia driver
[05:12] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  you read up on the !nvidia page yet?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <rideout> M4X1MUM: for a hard disk?
[05:13] <rideout> sorry that was dme
[05:13] <Dr_willis> or are you refering to the nforce/chipset drivers?
[05:13] <M4X1MUM> not for harddisk, for graphic card
[05:13] <dme> next 'add harddisk' question: since fstab already shows an entry for /dev/hdb (the cd drive), do i call my new hard disk /dev/hdc, or will linux automatically bump up the /etc/fstab entry to the next avail drive letter for the cd drive?
[05:13] <Dr_willis>  - read the !nvidia stuff then.. its about a 3 min setup.. that can be done from X and synaptic/adept
[05:14] <Zaire> anyone know what this means http://pastebin.ca/188439
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  the drives get their names from where they are installed at.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  if you plugged the hd into where the cd was at.. it will be hdb
[05:14] <[renbolicious] > nice
[05:14] <Dr_willis> dme,  'fdisk -l' shows  the drives/partitions seen
[05:14] <Dr_willis> well  -->  sudo fdisk -l
[05:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:14] <dme> if i plug it into the 2nd hd connector on the motherboard?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i would guess that would be hdc
[05:15] <dme> thank you
[05:15] <M4X1MUM> but i dont have synaptic
[05:15] <Dr_willis> drive letters dont 'bump/change' like they do under windows.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  install it.. or read the docs and use adept - the gist is the same...
[05:15] <dme> i was wondering if u would understand my question was coming from a windows p.o.v.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> M4X1MUM,  select the extra repos.. search, install
[05:15] <Dr_willis> hdb is hdb is always hdb.. :P
[05:16] <Dr_willis> even if its a cd, or somthing else..
[05:16] <Dr_willis> or has 100 partitions.. or 1
[05:16] <dme> does unix/linux have an official convention as to what i name the directory i mount the hd to, or do i just name it whatever i'm going to use it for (making backups)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> you can mount them anywhere
[05:16] <Dr_willis>  - /media/SOMTHING - is normal for ubuntu
[05:17] <Dr_willis> make sure the directory exists BEFOR you try to mount the device
[05:17] <Dr_willis> so /media/hdc1 is a good name.. as would be /media/MyBackups
[05:17] <dme> does the new hard disk need a swap partition as the boot harddisk has?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> or /media/porn
[05:17] <Dr_willis> err.. forget that last one..
[05:17] <dme> forgotten
[05:17] <Dr_willis> swap partitions are for the os to use.. you can gain a little preformace by useing several swaps on different drives..
[05:17] <Dr_willis> but not needed
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to put a little swap partiion on all my hds.
[05:18] <dme> very good
[05:18] <Dr_willis> 512mb or so.. since i tend to move them around a lot. and use live cd's a lot.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> but its not NEEDED
[05:19] <dme> one last question: i have a Silicon Image raid card... any idea where i would look for a linux driver for it (none on mfg cd, and silicon image's website is inadequate at best)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> google is our friend, and the ubuntu forums would be the first stop..
[05:19] <dme> thank you
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Ive found a lot of raid stuff to be rather lacking in linux friendlyness. :(
[05:19] <cpk2> hrmm i think i keep losing things in my panel and kmenu hehe
[05:19] <Dr_willis> but linux can do a software raid..  but i dont mess with raid any more
[05:20] <dme> question grab bag: any pointers a newbie like me might not know i need?
[05:20] <Zaire> how do I fix this http://pastebin.ca/188439
[05:20] <Dr_willis> dme,  IF you ever mess witht he grub loader.. rember this - GRUB starts counting at 0 :) not 1.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> dme,  Linux is about "layers and Legos" - Little blocks forming software layers that then form the foundation for the next layer of blocks (programs) :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> dme,  and rember thers NO 'n' in umount (for UNmount)
[05:21] <hoboi> omar2: are you still around
[05:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <cpk2> i think i might need to completely reset my kde settings, how would i do this?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  delete those .kde dirs
[05:22] <dme> thank you; wife is calling me; must go; your help is appreciated
[05:22] <Zaire> hey Hobbsee you know anything about mysql and phpbb?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> .kde/    .kderc
[05:22] <cpk2> Dr_willis: could i just rmdir -rf .kde ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> not sure what .kderc does
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  yep.. that should doit.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> rm -rf
[05:22] <cpk2> i wont shoot myself in the foot here?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Zaire: nope
[05:22] <Dr_willis> does rmdir take -rf ?
[05:22] <Zaire> crap
[05:22] <Dr_willis> or just rename the .kde dir
[05:22] <Zaire> Im having database issues with mysql
[05:22] <Dr_willis> thats safer
[05:22] <cpk2> Dr_willis: i like that idea better =)
[05:23] <Zaire> !php5-mysql
[05:23] <ubotu> php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[05:23] <Dr_willis> when doing new installs and keeping the /home partition ive had issues wht gnome and kde settings screwing things up
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > jeez
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > my system just crashed
[05:24] <[renbolicious] > all i did was running glxgears
[05:24] <cpk2> Dr_willis: =(
[05:24] <Dr_willis> impressive. [renbolicious]
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > no really
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > im not impressed
[05:25] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <Ash-Fox> Does anyone know of a way to get firefox to open anything with 'kfmclient exec <program/filename>', if I click open in the download box or something?
[05:25] <cpk2> it seemed like a good idea to have /home on its own partition
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I am.. ive not managed to crash it that way
[05:25] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  it is a good idea.. but thats just somthing ive noticed that messed up on me.
[05:26] <cpk2> Dr_willis: you still have /home seperate?
[05:26] <cpk2> I also moved /home after my install heh
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I got so many partitions its scary
[05:26] <Dr_willis> actually now a days i got so many hard drives its scary
[05:26] <Healot> a simple. question. should there be any problem if I create a mirror with two disks with different speed, i.e SATA and IDE UltraDMA-5?
[05:27] <cpk2> wow kde made a new .kde instantly
[05:27] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  thats to be expected. :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> cpk2,  you did close out kde/logout then rename that dir?
[05:28] <Zaire> how do I set this up
[05:28] <cpk2> Dr_willis: no, i just realized i might want to stop kdm first though he
[05:28] <cpk2> h
[05:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:29] <otaku-san> I'm having a prob with dependencies
[05:29] <cpk2> well i will be right back
[05:29] <Dr_willis> yea - im not sure how kde caches that dir...
[05:29] <mark__> THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[05:29] <mark__> I am gstreaming RUSH RADIO right now
[05:30] <otaku-san> a app I'm trying to apt install is found but it's saying I have unmet dependencies
[05:30] <otaku-san> and says try apt-get -f install
[05:30] <[renbolicious] > :x
[05:30] <mark__> adding myself to the audio group and then rebooting did the trick
[05:30] <otaku-san> doesn't that override the dependency?  And I don't want that right?
[05:31] <[renbolicious] > how do i get kde4?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> mark__,  check how many entries you got for root in that groups file
[05:31] <otaku-san> hahaha you don't want that
[05:31] <[renbolicious] > i dont?
[05:31] <otaku-san> kde4 is still in major beta mode
[05:31] <otaku-san> unless your the dangerous kind
[05:31] <mark__> you mean /etc/groups?
[05:31] <mark__> I will check
[05:31] <otaku-san> and like crashes
[05:32] <otaku-san> it's code named krash
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > nope
[05:32] <Dr_willis> cat /etc/group | grep root
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > im scared of crashes
[05:32] <otaku-san> but expect a clean version in a few months
[05:32] <[renbolicious] > they make me weep
[05:32] <Dr_willis> I have 1 entry.. if you got more then that... well :) ya got other things to fix as well
[05:32] <otaku-san> ya crashes suck
[05:33] <otaku-san> my friend (who is a windoze junkie) cracked up at the codename
[05:33] <mark__> no just one... thanks for the idea to check though
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > does anyone know what package i need to install in order for amarok to play my mp3s?
[05:33] <otaku-san> I pointed out vista
[05:33] <Dr_willis> mark__,  my USER has 12 entries in that file
[05:33] <otaku-san> .....oh wow haven't seen that one
[05:33] <otaku-san> in a while
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > vista is nice
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > like vacation
[05:33] <[renbolicious] > makes me wanna get a cocktail
[05:34] <[renbolicious] > and lie around in office all day
[05:34] <cpk1> Dr_willis: everything is back now =)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> nice for the hardware makers :) and the mass upgrades...
[05:34] <cpk1> only thing i really miss so far is my wallpapers
[05:34] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok I've gotten mp3's to play on amarok...am doing that at the moment actually...let me remember how
[05:34] <mark__> I only see one root and a list of many unique system users, then the personal users I have added
[05:34] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  heh - i link the .kde wallpapers directory to /home/willis/wallpapers
[05:34] <mark__> all looks in order
[05:34] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <Dr_willis>  the .kde directory layout is SOOO nested
[05:35] <otaku-san> [ren
[05:35] <zakame> hi all
[05:35] <otaku-san> ack
[05:35] <mark__> amorak was just added to me tonight when I used ubuntu add/remove to look for it
[05:35] <cpk1> looks like my kde apps forgot everything too
[05:35] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok try those...and you need to install some stuff
[05:35] <[renbolicious] > jupp
[05:35] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  yep. :P
[05:35] <[renbolicious] > tought so
[05:35] <mark__> That is all for now, but I wanted to say thanks
[05:36] <[renbolicious] > youre welcome
[05:36] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : not to hard tho'....just let me get it all in order
[05:37] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: you on?  You can help me here...my brains going...to much info going in all the time! ;)
[05:37] <digivore> !arp
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Hawkwind> otaku-san: ?
[05:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: ya
[05:39] <[renbolicious] > well
[05:39] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: heheh this poor soul needs to get mp3 playing on his/her box
[05:39] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : ok you need libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > ah
[05:40] <otaku-san> Hawkwind:
[05:40] <otaku-san> ahhkk
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > apt-get install libxine?
[05:40] <otaku-san> you don't have the repo probably
[05:40] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : No, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:40] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Have you enabled all of your repos yet ?
[05:40] <otaku-san> so it'll just say it can't find it
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > hmm
[05:40] <[renbolicious] > i just
[05:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: I pull out the tut
[05:41] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: the repo one
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > i have repos enabled
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > the standard ones
[05:41] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : You need multiverse and universe
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > ?
[05:41] <[renbolicious] > which is a reposite?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> !repos > [renbolicious]
[05:42] <[renbolicious] > !repos
[05:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:42] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Read what the bot just pm'd you with
[05:42] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : No need for that, it's in PM already.  Keeps the channel cleaner :)
[05:42] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : hehehe go ahead and put this up on your browser for safe keeping until you need it in a bit
[05:42] <otaku-san> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[05:43] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: sorry I had to drag you out of channel watching ;)  My mind was going there...I've been going blank far to much recently
[05:43] <[renbolicious] > :(
[05:43] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: need vitamins
[05:44] <otaku-san> sad face?
[05:46] <[renbolicious] > hmm
[05:46] <otaku-san> whats up
[05:46] <Slynderdale> Can Ubunto read *and* write to a Fat32 drive or just Fat?
[05:46] <[renbolicious] > cant you send me your sources.list?
[05:46] <omar2> Hi guys , pls how can I open a konqueror like a root
[05:46] <Hawkwind> [renbolicious] : Look at the URL he pasted you
[05:47] <otaku-san> [renbolicious] : it's on the tutorial up there.....heres the link again...it's a really good list..I've used it a ton of times
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: Why would you want to ?
[05:47] <otaku-san> http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: It's not recommended that you run something like konqueror as root user
[05:47] <omar2> cos I am in a live CD and I can-t move some files in a folder
[05:47] <Hawkwind> omar2: So do it from the command line, much safer
[05:48] <omar2> but I need it they are so many ifiles and folders one by one is too much
[05:48] <otaku-san> omar2: it won't matter anyways
[05:48] <Hawkwind> omar2: You can move directories at a time
[05:48] <otaku-san> omar2: the live cd will just delete everything you did
[05:48] <omar2> no, I can-t I got an error
[05:48] <cpk1> argh how do i get wine back on the kmenu?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> it pays to learn the shell.   I'd recommend that long before konqueror as root
[05:49] <cpk1> Dr_willis: first, lets get wine back there =)
[05:49] <otaku-san> no I think he means wine itself...which you can't
[05:49] <hoboi> Hawkwind: omar2's error is from konqueror not the command line
[05:49] <omar2> Access denied to /home/ubuntu/New/.evolution/addressbook.
[05:50] <Hawkwind> omar2: Tell us exactly what you are trying to do
[05:50] <Hawkwind> omar2: So use sudo mv blah blah blah from the terminal
[05:50] <hoboi> Hawkwind: omar2 is trying to move files from  /dev/hda1  to  a windows shared drive via konq
[05:50] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  i cant recall seeing a 'wine' icon.. ive a menu of the windows apps ive installed with wine
[05:50] <cpk1> Dr_willis: yeah that menu
[05:50] <omar2> I am trying to move a lot of files and folders from a hda1 to a share windows folder
[05:50] <omar2> there you go
[05:50] <cpk1> i dont like running the apps from konsole
[05:51] <Hawkwind> omar2: Ah, I know nothing about Windows stuff.  I would assume you are using samba ?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  no idea if theres an easy way to get them back..I am guessing the wine executable edited a file in .kde that got merged with the menus
[05:51] <omar2> I just mounted
[05:51] <Hawkwind> omar2: Is the Windows partition NTFS ?
[05:51] <omar2> but inside the windows share folder everything is fine I can even move or delete from my konq
[05:52] <omar2> but inside de hda1 I can-t do those things
[05:52] <omar2> at all
[05:52] <Hawkwind> omar2: So open up a terminal and type sudo before your command
[05:52] <Hawkwind> omar2: Example:  sudo mv /path/to/directory /path/to/new/directory
[05:53] <omar2> I am not usisng the terminal to move , cos I don-t know how, that s why I am using konq
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: Though I'd strongly suggest using sudo cp -a instead of sudo mv
[05:53] <hoboi> Hawkwind: lucky u know nothing about windows, i am trying to erase my memory of that nightmare
[05:53] <omar2> there you go
[05:53] <omar2> mv
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: We are trying to teach you
[05:53] <Dr_willis> cpk1, --------->  willis@Audigy:~/.kde/share/applnk/Wine   is where they are stored it seems
[05:53] <omar2> I really appreciate it
[05:53] <Hawkwind> omar2: sudo cp -a /current/directory /new/directory
[05:53] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  so copy/restore that dir from your backups :)
[05:54] <omar2> cp for copy
[05:54] <omar2> ok
[05:54] <Hawkwind> omar2: Correct
[05:54] <omar2> lets try thanks
[05:56] <cpk1> Dr_willis: thanks =D
[05:57] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  handy how that works.. :P
[05:57] <Dr_willis> merfges the menu layouts
[05:57] <cpk1> cool it updated kmenu right away too
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Luser Friendly!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <cpk1> its amazing how much simpler linux stuff is compared to windows
[06:01] <otaku-san> cpk1: it can be a bit of culture shock..but it can be...now compiling and dependencies
[06:01] <otaku-san> thats another story
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Bah! go edit that Regiestry!
[06:01] <cpk1> yeah dependencies cant be fun sometimes
[06:01] <cpk1> but ubuntu is amazing
[06:02] <omar2> Hawkwind: I have a treouble to find the folder, look one is in media:/hda1/home/omar/logs (from) the other one is media:/unionfs/home/ubuntu/New (to) , how will be the line
[06:02] <cpk1> i was able to pretty much get everything that worked on windows working on ubuntu in about 10 minutes
[06:02] <otaku-san> cpk1: All around Linux is much better...Iheheh at the moment I'm getting into dependency heck!!! So many
[06:02] <Dr_willis> when using source - it can be apain
[06:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but thats the price you pay for flexability
[06:03] <otaku-san> ......ahhhhgggg I'm just going to -f install this thing
[06:04] <Dr_willis> what thing?
[06:04] <otaku-san> it's complaining about a PNG library
[06:04] <dhq> Dr_willis: how do i configure my lm-sensors
[06:04] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: oh I found a sweet program I really need...but it's complaining
[06:04] <Dr_willis> dhq,  normally theres a sensors-detect or sensors-config you run
[06:05] <Dr_willis> otaku-san,  and the packates for it aint working?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> otaku-san,  or using source?
[06:05] <dhq> Dr_willis: i run they say no sensors detedcte d
[06:05] <otaku-san> dhq: some sensors are just not up to snuff for it....like mine sadly
[06:06] <dhq> otaku-san: but mine is a laptopo
[06:06] <dhq> otaku-san: mine temp sensors start with 55 degree cel
[06:06] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: ok so I found it's package on apt-get...I tried it and it gave me an error of needing a dependency....so I went and found the package on debian....but it's still complaining
[06:07] <otaku-san> dhq: you mean they are stuck on that temp?  Or what?
[06:07] <dhq> !lm-sensors
[06:07] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[06:08] <dhq> otaku-san: when i start my pc it starts at 55 degreecel and it keeps increasing
[06:08] <omar2> I did it , thanks a lot
[06:08] <omar2> really
[06:08] <otaku-san> Dr_willis: it gave me a choice to -f install it...so I'm going to try that...and try to get the png library to work later....tho' I use png all the time
[06:09] <sakitel> join #ubuntu-es
[06:09] <otaku-san> dhq: 55cel.......thats....great I've forgotten the formula....anyone know the degrees formula
[06:09] <cpk1> what i really want is the play stop skip song prev song buttons on my keyboard to work =P
[06:10] <otaku-san> dhq: that sounds a but high tho....
[06:10] <cpk1> i sure dont know, but google knows what 55 celsius is in fareinheit
[06:10] <dhq> otaku-san: yes its too high even when my laptop is off for ages
[06:10] <Dr_willis> 55C is roughly 1/2 the boiling point of water (a littel over) :)
[06:10] <dhq> cpk1: i can choose to farienheit
[06:11] <otaku-san> 30 cel is about 70.... in farenheit...so ya 50 is like 100-20sh
[06:11] <Dr_willis> so thats warm
[06:11] <dhq> Dr_willis: so i have to configure my lm-sensors properly
[06:11] <otaku-san> hehehe I'm kinda right
[06:11] <Dr_willis> dhq,  no idea.:P
[06:11] <Dr_willis> it may be giveing #'s but are they the right #'s
[06:11] <otaku-san> dhq: theres a tutorial out there on this...pretty big one if I remember correctly
[06:11] <otaku-san> google it
[06:12] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:12] <dhq> otaku-san: i did it but when i run lm-sensors i  so many failed and when i run  sensors it shows no sensors detected
[06:12] <Zaire> I need to know how I may have to config mysql in order to install phpbb2
[06:13] <Slynderdale> try google calculator: 30 celcius in fareheight
[06:13] <Slynderdale> 30 degrees Celsius = 86 degrees Fahrenheit
[06:14] <Slynderdale> My spelling sucks tonight :/
[06:14] <otaku-san> ohhhh I was close
[06:14] <otaku-san> I said 70
[06:14] <Zaire> yeps 30 celcius is 86 F according to my proc temp monitor
[06:14] <InteliWasp> what tools to i need to run to track a memory leak wile running a program?
[06:15] <otaku-san> don't use C++ hehehe ;) sorry...I can't help you...just being annoying
[06:15] <dhq> otaku-san: i get 120.2 f
[06:16] <otaku-san> thats ok for start up
[06:17] <otaku-san> my sensors on my BIOS show about 114 when I start er up and let it run a bit
[06:17] <Slynderdale> 50 degrees Celsius = 122 degrees Fahrenheit
[06:17] <Zaire> 30 is 86 my gigabyte easytune does not lie
[06:17] <otaku-san> who I was close again....man I feel lucky tonight
[06:17] <otaku-san> whoa*
[06:17] <InteliWasp> BTW for proccesors, they shuld run no hotter than 80c
[06:17] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: Try the lottery xD
[06:18] <Zaire> ummm 75 actually
[06:18] <otaku-san> InteliWasp: ya....but he's getting super hot at cold start up
[06:18] <Slynderdale> 75 = 167f
[06:18] <InteliWasp> crap i hate it when i mess that number up..
[06:18] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: hehehe I should!
[06:18] <soulrider> oh noes
[06:18] <Zaire> mine is running a bit hotter cause Im running kubuntu in vmware but my normal temp is 16 celcius
[06:18] <soulrider> my KDE config is back to defaul
[06:18] <soulrider> like if i had installed KDE
[06:19] <soulrider> not the kubuntu default
[06:19] <InteliWasp> i wonder the the TIM needs replaving...
[06:19] <soulrider> how can i change it to what comes by default in kubuntu ?
[06:19] <InteliWasp> TIM= Thermal Interface Matirial
[06:19] <otaku-san> hehehe I call it paste
[06:19] <otaku-san> silva paste
[06:20] <fdoving> soulrider: you can try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings'
[06:20] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[06:21] <soulrider> but thats just for KDE right ?
[06:21] <Slynderdale> Basicly what I did, was use a Ubuntu Live CD to install Ubuntu+Gnome, then used the terminal to apt-get install Kubuntu, basicly giving me the choise of Ubuntu+Gnome, or using KDE(Kbunutu), Now if I choose Gnome, it uses the normal look and feel, but whule using KDE, it switches to Kubuntu
[06:21] <soulrider> it wont screw any other apps up right ?
[06:21] <Zaire> apt-get is universal between gnome and kde
[06:22] <cpk1> Slynderdale: i dont get your question?
[06:22] <dinosaur-rus> as I understood from screenshots, live CDs can be used for regular installation to HDD with ability to work as it installs, right?
[06:23] <soulrider> dinosaur-rus: correct
[06:23] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: it's not suggested tho'....but you can
[06:23] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: why?
[06:25] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: because you are basically installing an OS onto your hardrive...it's a bit delicate...so doing background stuff whilst it's installing is kinda foolish
[06:25] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: you can tho'  that's what those people taking the screenshots are doing
[06:26] <Slynderdale> Hmm, a question, in Ubuntu, can it read *and* write to a FAT32 drive or just FAT?
[06:26] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: yeah, that's true. but theoretically, I can test some vital features before installing
[06:26] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: ok I think it can both read and write to Fat
[06:27] <otaku-san> and FAT32
[06:27] <otaku-san> it's NTFS that can only read...unless you install ext2 (a cool program) on the windows partition
[06:27] <Slynderdale> I know NTFS support is lacking, but I was wondering if the same goes for FAT32, I have a 300 Gig FAT32 drive and a 80 gig NTFS drive which I partitioned off for Windows and Linux
[06:27] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: not just theoretically....you can and is really suggested
[06:28] <InteliWasp> with ext2, how save is it to write?
[06:28] <Slynderdale> ext2?
[06:28] <InteliWasp> safe i mean
[06:28] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: test out everything on the live cd...then reboot(it won't save anything you do on the live cd...and install k-ubuntu
[06:29] <dinosaur-rus> otaku-san: why should I reboot before installling?
[06:30] <otaku-san> Slyderdale, InteliWasp : with ext2 you don't need a space taking FAT32 partition...you can just transfer files over and read and write like its another drive on windows
[06:30] <soulrider> does anyone know where i can get the dapper color scheme ?
[06:30] <soulrider> i dont like the edgy one
[06:31] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: because...there once was a bug on kubuntu that if you messed with the apps on the live cd then tried to install the OS it would crash
[06:31] <otaku-san> dinosaur-rus: I think they've squashed this bug...but to be on the safe side just reboot
[06:32] <otaku-san> it was a Dapper bug when it was still new...
[06:32] <otaku-san> soulrider: try kde-looks.org
[06:33] <soulrider> i did
[06:33] <Slynderdale> otaku-san: Where can I find info on the program?
[06:34] <qch> does anyone of any good tools for monitoring cpu frequency under kde?
[06:34] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: I was just finding that....hold on a tick...I'll get it
[06:34] <soulrider> otaku-san: is there any wya i can export it froma  amchine running dapper ?
[06:35] <otaku-san> soulrider: thats a good question...and something to try....probably....I think there is something like that
[06:36] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: it was something I stumbled on when I first found Linux oh so long ago....
[06:38] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: here it is...and yes it's stable...I have been using it alot...and it hasn't done anything wrong...I get picture files (for painting on PS) from my Linux partition and open them on windows all the time...and visaversa
[06:38] <otaku-san> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[06:38] <otaku-san> there it is ^^^^^
[06:38] <Slynderdale> Thank you :)
[06:39] <Timmy|GDS> what directory are the buntu dapper sources lists? I need to change dapper to edgy for a dist upgrade
[06:39] <otaku-san> Slynderdale: no problem...
[06:40] <otaku-san> Timmy|GDS: wow you can upgrade?  I thought it was still unstable
[06:40] <otaku-san> it came out with a RC?
[06:40] <timthelion> is there an application for optimizing startup times for kubuntu? they have become painfully slow, 5 minutes on a p4 3.0gz 2 gig ram
[06:40] <timthelion> I am on a fully up to date dapper
[06:40] <Timmy|GDS> christ! im on a p4 2.66 768dram and its not that bad
[06:41] <timthelion> it used to be like 15 secconds
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> i think i have an ibm article for you...
[06:41] <cpk1> anyone know if kde-look has a huge zip of all their wallpapers and whatnot?
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> (might help)
[06:41] <Timmy|GDS> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html
[06:42] <Timmy|GDS> thats a bit more core, but it might help
[06:42] <otaku-san> cpk1: um....you mean so you can get it all?
[06:42] <otaku-san> cpk1: that would be a bit hard....
[06:42] <cpk1> otaku-san: that would be preferable =D
[06:43] <otaku-san> cpk1: hehe it's not like windows!!!!
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> lol
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> yeah
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> tar.gz
[06:43] <Timmy|GDS> ...
[06:44] <Timmy|GDS> Google is your best bet
[06:44] <otaku-san> cpk1: all of the window decos, wallpapers, color schemes are created by just anyone....and it's constantly changing
[06:44] <otaku-san> no use kde-looks.org
[06:44] <Timmy|GDS> yeah
[06:44] <timthelion> is it possible to have dpkg list all installed applications and libraries?
[06:44] <otaku-san> and go to deviantart.com for wallpapers
[06:44] <cpk1> i would use kget with kde-look.org but i cant seem to figure it out
[06:44] <otaku-san> cpk1: so it would be impossible to just tar it all
[06:45] <otaku-san> .....kget....kde-looks.org o.0
[06:45] <otaku-san> can you do that?
[06:45] <cpk1> not sure
[06:46] <cpk1> but you should be able to!
[06:46] <cpk1> that and the get new wallpapers gui doesnt seem to like me very much
[06:46] <otaku-san> the things on KDE that change the look normally are connected to kde-looks.org so it's very easy to change....
[06:47] <otaku-san> hey would reinstalling kdelibs4 be a good idea.....n00b question
[06:51] <otaku-san> ok I'm off....when I look at compiling and go....do I have to....I need to sleep
[06:51] <otaku-san> peace
[06:55] <cpk1> ooooooooo boy
[06:55] <cpk1> looks like kstuff.org might have been what i was looking for
[06:57] <cpk1> bah nevermind, hasnt been updated in over a year
[07:00] <igi> hi there
[07:01] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[07:01] <igi> I got a rpoblem
[07:01] <igi> my p2p under linux is much slower than under win
[07:02] <igi> also, DL from rapidshare and megaupload larger than few 100KB always breaks
[07:03] <igi> any suggestions?
[07:03] <igi> maybe default package size and stuff like that
[07:03] <igi> I dunno where to set it in linux
[07:04] <zeus_> please i need some help here whit the grub
[07:05] <zeus_> title         Windows vista
[07:05] <zeus_> root          ()
[07:05] <zeus_> makeactive
[07:05] <zeus_> chainloader   +1
[07:05] <arunkale> hey, people.. I wanted to try out Gnome desktop.. what major changes will take place? Can I use the same software that I use now?
[07:05] <zeus_> i have a sata disk but i dony know what to put in the menu.list
[07:05] <zeus_> here is my fstab file
[07:06] <zeus_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda6       /media/hda6     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:06] <zeus_> please HELPP
[07:08] <dinosaur-rus> arunkale: I guess your current software should work
[07:08] <arunkale> thanks
[07:13] <dinosaur-rus> arunkale: at least you always can return everything to its current state ;)
[07:14] <Hawkwind> zeus_: Please don't paste to the channel like that.  Use a pastebin service
[07:17] <qch> does anyone know of a good app to monitor cpu frequency on kde?
[07:18] <unix_lappy> qch: cpufreq-utils
[07:19] <unix_lappy> or use gkrellm's cpufreq monitor or use conky / torsmo
[07:19] <qch> ah, thanks unix_lappy
[07:19] <unix_lappy> kde comes with its own little applet, ASSUMING your cpu supports dynamic and has monitoring capabilities.
[07:19] <qch> hmm, where?
[07:19] <qch> i have a laptop and it does indeed support dynamic freq. scaling
[07:21] <qch> KLaptop allows me to throttle the cpu frequency but i can't actually see what speed it's running at...any clues?
[07:28] <dinosaur-rus> what gcc version does Edgy use by default?
[07:29] <qch> I think 4.1.1 ?
[07:30] <dinosaur-rus> thx
[07:39] <Slynderdale> What version is the Ubuntu Linux kernal?
[07:42] <Healot> uname -r for your current kernel, check the repos for updated version
[07:47] <Kream> does anyone here have colours working in vim ?
[08:15] <High|ander> how lovely, my palm is syncing with kpilot
[08:15] <High|ander> :)
[08:26] <raveesh> hi!
[08:26] <raveesh> i am new to kubuntu, can anyone help me out
[08:31] <june> how do i manage user permissions?
[08:31] <june> as far as allowing other users to sudo
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <KDEfanboy> june: in Konqueror, type in location bar: "man:sudoers" to read about sudoers file. it should always be modified with 'visudo' command, "man:visudo" to read about that command
[09:17] <daurnimator> hi all
[09:17] <daurnimator> !sound
[09:17] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:21] <cpk1> argh iwconfig gives me a seg fault?!?!
[09:26] <daurnimator> ok
[09:26] <daurnimator> my sound isn't working
[09:27] <daurnimator> i need help
[09:27] <daurnimator> that help from ubotu didn't help
[09:27] <weas3l> wow, how odd is that...
[09:27] <dek> Krusader does not save configuration on exit (even though the option is enabled). It always starts in the same dir. Any idea?
[09:27] <weas3l> neither is mine.
[09:27] <weas3l> !sound
[09:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:31] <exceswater> hello people
[09:34] <yigal> hi - who can help me with installing ICQ on Ubuntu?
[09:35] <tejinder> anyone knows, why i get this error when i do glxinfo? Re: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"?
[09:35] <tejinder> i am using nvdia-glx-legacy driver
[09:35] <flaccid> google show anything?
[09:35] <tejinder> flaccid: asking me?
[09:36] <flaccid> yes
[09:37] <tejinder> did'nt find anything useful
[09:37] <KEo> join #sieci
[09:37] <flaccid> k
[09:37] <tejinder> i commented out the dri section too
[09:37] <tejinder> do i need to install restricred kernel modules, to make it work properly?
[09:37] <tejinder> I am on edgy btw
[09:37] <MDCore> hey all.. can anyone recommend a gui scp client ?
[09:38] <Healot> i am on the edge of a cliff btw
[09:52] <weas3l> what happens if $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388 returns an error? o_O
[09:52] <NthDegree> wtf lol
[09:53] <NthDegree> you surely mean sudo modprobe snd_es18xx right?
[09:53] <weas3l> ... i'm just goin thru the motions to get my sound workin from one of the links ubotu gave me.
[09:53] <NthDegree> or weas3l if you insist on all those settings give sudo modprobe
[09:53] <weas3l> thats copied right from the link
[09:53] <NthDegree> lol
[09:54] <NthDegree> try this then
[09:54] <weas3l> so... i can just go $ sudo modprobe snd_es18xx?
[09:54] <NthDegree> yes
[09:54] <NthDegree> I believe that thing there is wrong: it should of been - sudo modprobe 'snd_es18xx isapnp=0 port=0x220 mpu_port=0x330 dma1=1 dma2=5 irq=5 fm_port=0x388' at the very least
[09:55] <weas3l> now, thats just the one in the example, its probably not going to fit my chipset...
[09:55] <NthDegree> then try this:
[09:55] <weas3l> where would i put *that* (or the modulename?)
[09:55] <NthDegree> lspci
[09:55] <Healot> it's an isa card
[09:56] <Healot> is it?
[09:56] <weas3l> on a laptop?
[09:56] <weas3l> i see theres a multimedia audio controller....
[09:56] <NthDegree> Healot: on a modern system would anyone have an ISA sound card
[09:56] <flaccid> i do
[09:56] <Healot> he could :)
[09:57] <NthDegree> hehe
[09:57] <NthDegree> yeah but that example is really wrong
[09:57] <flaccid> nothing wrong with legacy hardware if it does the job
[09:57] <NthDegree> is if it will be unsupported by kernel 2.7 :|
[09:59] <NthDegree> hmmm weas3l pastebin the output of lspci for us would ya?
[09:59] <weas3l> theres no flood restrictions here?
[09:59] <NthDegree> I said pastebin not paste lol
[09:59] <NthDegree> ubuntu.pastebin.nl <----- go there
[10:00] <weas3l> can't find it.
[10:00] <NthDegree> oops 1 sec
[10:01] <NthDegree> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:01] <NthDegree> then you can paste the info in there and we can try to help ;-)
[10:02] <weas3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25479/ BAM!
[10:03] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[10:03] <NthDegree> i'll find out what you really need to modprobe
[10:03] <weas3l> *snigger*
[10:05] <weas3l> would that be soundcore?
[10:05] <weas3l> or am i way off?
[10:05] <NthDegree> 1 sec
[10:05] <NthDegree> i think it could be sudo modprobe via82cxxx_audio
[10:06] <weas3l> fatal, module not found
[10:06] <NthDegree> sudo modprobe via82cxxx maybe
[10:06] <Healot> via module should be in
[10:08] <NthDegree> well lets see what putting just via82cxxx does :-)
[10:08] <weas3l> didn't return any error. :D
[10:09] <NthDegree> right now you want I think sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart or sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[10:10] <weas3l> alsa-utils?
[10:10] <weas3l> neiter of those commands are found :S
[10:10] <NthDegree> yeah :$
[10:10] <weas3l> k
[10:11] <weas3l> still no sound :S
[10:11] <NthDegree> run alsamixer
[10:11] <weas3l> should i do restart then the card?
[10:12] <NthDegree> you might need to turn the volume up lol
[10:12] <weas3l> volume is in the red on all sliders
[10:12] <NthDegree> and unmuted
[10:12] <NthDegree> ?
[10:12] <weas3l> cept the mic and cd.
[10:12] <weas3l> yup
[10:12] <NthDegree> tried running a sound test?
[10:12] <weas3l> neg
[10:13] <weas3l> wait, muting the external speaker makes it work o_O
[10:13] <NthDegree> lmao
[10:13] <weas3l> external amp i mean...
[10:13] <NthDegree> that's an on/off switch i suspect
[10:14] <weas3l> i suppose that makes sense...
[10:14] <cpk2> !sudo
[10:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:14] <NthDegree> now one last thing
[10:14] <weas3l> where do i send the cookies?
[10:15] <NthDegree> lol
[10:15] <weas3l> can you possibly shed some light as well on a wireless gateway issue i'm having with my school...
[10:16] <flaccid> how does ubuntu know the ip address of the gateway/router? i can't see anything in resolv.conf is it a dif file?
[10:16] <NthDegree> wireless isn't my thing
[10:16] <NthDegree> flaccid: it knows it via dhcp normally
[10:16] <flaccid> where is that stored but?
[10:16] <weas3l> well, its more a 'the schools tech doesn't know linux, and setting the gateway in windows is making every connection gateway.xxx.xxx:8080
[10:16] <NthDegree> flaccid: no config
[10:17] <flaccid> no config?
[10:17] <flaccid> how does the system know? command to verify?
[10:17] <NthDegree> flaccid:  dhcp works by your router acting as a server and dhcp connecting to it and receiving the data via a dhcp client
[10:17] <cpk2> so somehow sudo stopped working and forced me to do a hard reboot =\
[10:18] <flaccid> i know that
[10:18] <flaccid> i run dhcpd at home here
[10:18] <flaccid> i am asking a command to get the router ip
[10:19] <NthDegree> sudo ifup eth0
[10:19] <NthDegree> try that
[10:19] <flaccid> ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[10:19] <NthDegree> damn I can't remember the command for it
[10:20] <NthDegree> there's one that shows statistics and gateway and all that
[10:20] <flaccid> how to set gateway manual then?
[10:21] <NthDegree> in the net file, gimme a sec and i'll get the location of it
[10:21] <mabreaux> I have a alsa sound system and I can't turn the volume up beyound 30. which is very soft.  any one know how to turn it up
[10:21] <flaccid> mabreaux: try kmix
[10:21] <NthDegree>   /etc/network/interfaces @ flaccid
[10:22] <flaccid> oh yeah of course
[10:22] <mabreaux> I did, that is how I got to 30
[10:22] <NthDegree> mabreaux: try alsamixer
[10:24] <cpk2> resolv.conf
[10:24] <mabreaux> on the alsamixer the master and pcm are at the top.
[10:24] <cpk2> oh wait no thats dns oops
[10:24] <NthDegree> cpk2: I already told him lol
[10:24] <flaccid> its at the top then
[10:24] <mabreaux> but volume is still at 30
[10:24] <flaccid> yeah i think some distros use resolv.conf for gateway
[10:24] <mabreaux> and barely audible
[10:25] <NthDegree> turn up the speakers then and turn up ALL the volume bars on alsamixer
[10:25] <flaccid> you do understand that this is a pre-amp only?
[10:25] <mabreaux> speakers are built into the laptop
[10:25] <buz> what should i use these days automatix or easyubuntu?
[10:25] <flaccid> unless its an old soundcard with a built-in amplifier
[10:26] <cpk2> flaccid: it will be easier if you just use the gui to set the gateway
[10:26] <NthDegree> buz: none, they cause more issues than they solve
[10:26] <flaccid> cpk2: you don't say
[10:26] <mabreaux> brand new machine.
[10:26] <buz> i could do it by hand
[10:26] <buz> but i'm lazy
[10:26] <flaccid> mabreaux: is pcm turned all the way up
[10:26] <mabreaux> it has the high definition sound system
[10:26] <NthDegree> mabreaux: turn up the built in laptop speakers then
[10:26] <mabreaux> yes it is
[10:26] <mabreaux> they are
[10:27] <NthDegree> mabreaux: turn ALL the bits on alsamixer up
[10:27] <cpk2> flaccid: sometimes the gui can actually help
[10:27] <NthDegree> because PCM means little if "{name of soundcard model here} playback" isn't turned up too
[10:27] <flaccid> cpk2: i'm not a newbie
[10:28] <buz> !easyubuntu
[10:28] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:28] <buz> !automatix
[10:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:28] <buz> thats not very useful
[10:28] <cpk2> i dont get what being a noobie has to do with any of what i was talking about but ok
[10:28] <mabreaux> sound card says generic.....  how do I load the proper driver or what ever
[10:29] <NthDegree> buz, automatix and easyubuntu can mess up a lot of things
[10:29] <NthDegree> so they aren't officially supported
[10:30] <buz> mhh RestrictedFormats must have been redone by a crazy man
[10:30] <mabreaux> how can I identify what type sound card is in here
[10:30] <buz> now i have to type everything myself?
[10:30] <NthDegree> :|
[10:30] <NthDegree> !restrictedformats
[10:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <buz> yeah i know the page
[10:30] <NthDegree> what is crazy about it?
[10:31] <cpk2> libxine-extracodecs will get most everything
[10:31] <buz> before there was nice lines which one could past
[10:31] <NthDegree> I simply apt-get install audacity and convert my MP3s to OGG
[10:31] <buz> now i need to paste 10s of lines
[10:31] <NthDegree> ROFL
[10:31] <buz> told oyu i'm lazy sob
[10:31] <NthDegree> buz, one line is all you really need
[10:32] <NthDegree> then convert all your MP3s and w/e to OGG
[10:32] <buz> thats just stupid
[10:32] <cpk2> buz: what are you trying to play?
[10:32] <NthDegree> how is it buz?
[10:32] <buz> uhm like everything? i'll need w32codecs, too
[10:32] <mabreaux> good night
[10:32] <mabreaux> all
[10:32] <NthDegree> night mabreaux
[10:32] <buz> converting lossy to lossy is a bad thing to do TM
[10:33] <cpk2> i see 5 packages that you need for kubuntu to get "everything" playing
[10:33] <cpk2> thats including w32
[10:33] <buz> yeah
[10:33] <cpk2> so technically that is 3 commands
[10:33] <buz> in the past that was ONE line ;)
[10:34] <NthDegree> buz, well stop downloading off P2P then :p and you won't need all those lines
[10:34] <buz> i dont use p2p
[10:34] <cpk2> its 3 lines!
[10:34] <NthDegree> then why do you need codecs for MP3, AVI, MPEG etc.?
[10:35] <flaccid> where are static routes kept?
[10:35] <buz> because even legit sites use those?
[10:35] <flaccid> why stop d/l off p2p
[10:35] <flaccid> it rox
[10:35] <cpk2> i still dont get it all you need to do is 3 lines
[10:35] <NthDegree> or 1 line
[10:36] <NthDegree> gimme a sec
[10:36] <cpk2> apt-get install everything but w32
[10:36] <cpk2> wget w32
[10:36] <buz> yeah
[10:36] <cpk2> dpkg w32
[10:36] <buz> but you need to craft that line
[10:36] <cpk2> and thats it
[10:36] <buz> anyway, i'm done ;)
[10:36] <cpk2> it tab completes
[10:36] <buz> apt does tab completion?
[10:36] <cpk2> yes
[10:36] <NthDegree> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs  w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib  libarts1-xine  libakode2-mpeg
[10:36] <buz> didnt know THAT ;)
[10:36] <NthDegree> OMG SOOOO EASY
[10:37] <cpk2> lol NthDegree
[10:37] <NthDegree> I did it in 1 line
[10:37] <buz> yeah but hows restrictedformats newb friendly if it cant display the commands itself?
[10:37] <NthDegree> because we don't expect people to sit around like ignorant fools not learning
[10:37] <cpk2> it does
[10:37] <NthDegree> and you don't need a terminal to do it
[10:37] <cpk2> scroll down and READ
[10:38] <cpk2> oh i guess it doesnt give you something to copy paste
[10:38] <buz> see, in the past it DID
[10:38] <NthDegree> LMFAO
[10:38] <cpk2> although you could still copy paste all the package names from the top and it would be the same
[10:38] <NthDegree> 1 second
[10:39] <cpk2> lol
[10:40] <buz> mhh is css integrated into that libxine?
[10:41] <NthDegree> buz: where do you live? what country?
[10:41] <buz> Switzerland, CSS is perfeclty legal here
[10:41] <NthDegree> then apt-get install libdvdcss I think it is
[10:41] <buz> yeah probably
[10:41] <buz> could be libdvdcss2
[10:42] <buz> or i'll just use vlc ;)
[10:42] <buz> which i like more than kaffeine anyhow
[10:43] <NthDegree> CSS is actually legal all over the world, just decrypting it with DeCSS isn't :p
[10:44] <buz> actually, i'm not entirely sure about that
[10:44] <buz> some jurisdictions are decidedly anti copy protection
[10:44] <buz> in danmark you cant sell non region free dvd players for one
[10:47] <NthDegree> lol
[10:47] <NthDegree> I like to record music off the TV and OGGify it
[10:47] <NthDegree> 100% legal
[10:47] <NthDegree> and free as in cash and freedom
[10:47] <daurnimator> uh
[10:47] <daurnimator> thats not legal
[10:48] <NthDegree> it is actually
[10:48] <NthDegree> since I watched it at home
[10:48] <daurnimator> well, maybe where you live
[10:48] <NthDegree> and paid my TV License and Sky subscription
[10:48] <buz> and even if it was illegal, there's NFW they could catch you
[10:48] <daurnimator> but, here, its illegal to record anything - just its never been enforced
[10:48] <daurnimator> HERE, its illegel to rip a cd
[10:49] <cpk2> where is "HERE"?
[10:49] <daurnimator> uh, at this minute, victoria, australia
[10:50] <daurnimator> as an extra note: if there is region protection that locks out our region, you are allowed to copy/hack all you want
[10:51] <buz> or you fix it once by hacking your dvdrom, really
[10:51] <lupine_85> UK
[10:51] <Goliath23> hi, could anyone please try and reach http://plasma.kde.org from your end?
[10:51] <buz> Goliath23: doesnt seem to respond
[10:52] <Goliath23> bugger
[10:59] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can share my pc internet connection with my mobile via bluetooth ? the motorola desktop suite for windows does it
[11:00] <couquinoux> fr
[11:00] <kay> hello i have a question how can i find the packages where a special lib data file is? (for example libc6 which packages)
[11:01] <couquinoux> franais
[11:01] <cpk2> D4rkly: there should be a way, not sure exactly how bluetooth works but on your kubuntu box ( i assume thats the pc with the net) the simplest way would be to use MASQUEARADE
[11:01] <cpk2> possible spelling error there =P
[11:01] <KDEfanboy> !french
[11:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:02] <KDEfanboy> kay: i think you are wanting to search by filename(?) you can do that here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:02] <D4rkly> ok cool :)
[11:02] <kay> KDEfanboy: thx!
[11:02] <KDEfanboy> :)
[11:03] <cpk2> D4rkly: thats an iptables command
[11:03] <D4rkly> yep :)
[11:03] <D4rkly> how can i find out my mobile lan ip ? im guessing i need to setup a PAN between pc and mob (pesonal area network)
[11:03] <cpk2> D4rkly: i dont know the exact syntax but it will be something like iptables -t nat -a something -j MASQUERADE i might be completely off though
[11:04] <addie> lo
[11:04] <cpk2> D4rkly: i think using ad-hoc would be easiest
[11:05] <cpk2> and just give the pc wlan0 something like <IP_ADDRESS> and the mobile <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <D4rkly> i need to use bluetooth cause my phone doesnt have wifi
[11:06] <cpk2> does bluetooth support ad-hoc? i dont know anything about bluetooth
[11:06] <cpk2> you could set up a dhcp server on the pc
[11:07] <D4rkly> yep ill have a look into it :)
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i have an odd error. I want to edit my system settings and I opened that up in System Settings
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> but I'm getting a "the module Display can not be edited" error
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> so I can't change any of my settings
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> they aren't even displayed
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to post my xorg.conf is a second
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25483/
[11:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm running XGL/Compiz as well but I don't think thats the problem
[11:25] <pascalFR> Admiral_Chicago:  does kcontrol : devices > monitor and display  work ?
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> pascalFR, kcontrol?
[11:28] <main2> im using 'desktop sharing' on my server, but a lot of times after the client connects - it dies quickly (some times after 20sec, sometimes after 3sec)
[11:28] <pascalFR> Admiral_Chicago: you're on kde ?
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[11:28] <main2> is there anything i can test too see what is broken?
[11:28] <pascalFR> then alt-F2  kcontrol
[11:29] <pascalFR> and go to devices > monitor and display
[11:29] <jpiccolo> anyone have a good resource for small form factor cases
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't see devices...
[11:30] <pascalFR> under internet ?
[11:30] <pascalFR> peripherals ?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah peripherals
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> monitor does not exist
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> display doesn't work
[11:32] <pascalFR> when u click on display  what happens on the right panel ?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> it goes back to the original screen
[11:33] <pascalFR> ok you are on edgy ?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> pascalFR, yea i should probably ask i #ubuntu+1 no?
[11:34] <pascalFR> so it is a bug i just opened on launchpad bug #63517      not your fault or xorgs faults   it is a kdebase bug
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, ill check out LP and back you up on it
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> direct link?
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> nvm
[11:37] <pascalFR> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/63517
[11:38] <pascalFR> ok thanks
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> might want to add the keyword "edgy"
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> ah it might be like that already
[11:40] <Admiral_Chicago> well its bed time forme
[11:41] <pascalFR> nite Admiral_Chicago
[11:49] <Hjuringen_> Hi, I am wondering how usb automounting is working, and how I can set the automount to set exec on mounting an usb-stick so that I can run programs on this stick.
[11:50] <main2> the program 'krfb' crashes the whole time
[11:50] <main2> getting sick of it
[11:51] <main2> every time i remote desktop to my server, the process on the server crashes
[11:51] <main2> any ideas? :(
[11:52] <Hjuringen_> Reason for asking: I want to run Damn Small Linux (dsl-embedded) from the stick.
[11:52] <D4rkly> i need to use the following command but im unsure as to what the /24 is for ? also is the ip the localhost or the remote ?
[11:52] <D4rkly> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j MASQUERADE
[11:53] <cpk2> dont think you need the /24 and i think you use localhost, might want to ask in #iptables where people know what they are talking about though =P
[11:54] <cpk2> D4rkly: i found you need to be slightly patient in #iptables though =)
[11:55] <D4rkly> ok :)
[12:00] <High|ander> hm
[12:00] <High|ander> now kpilot removes the entrys on my palm !
[12:00] <High|ander> wtf?
[12:03] <jonathan__> hii
[12:13] <berkes> good morning.
[12:13] <gCb> morning
[12:13] <berkes> I am looking for some help with SUID (I think).
[12:14] <berkes> i have this little script that tests for my home wifi, if available it runs iwconfig and dhclient to connect to my home wifi,
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> just reading this test benchmark comparing kde and gnome memory usage, what is really suprising is in some cases running gnome apps in kde uses less ram
[12:15] <berkes> but I want to run that w/o typing in the su pw. The script, however, should not be editable by anyone but root.
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/
[12:31] <HabaKKuk> hey ppl
[12:33] <kulbir> how to do i disable sudo password?
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> better not to disable
[12:34] <flaccid> i don't think you can
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> he can set pass blank
[12:34] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: why?
[12:34] <HabaKKuk> imho
[12:34] <raveesh> Can anyone help me in installing firefox
[12:35] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: k thanks
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> lol np
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[12:35] <HabaKKuk> hey, do you ppl know any good soft for mixing music ?
[12:35] <kulbir> HabaKKuk: why lol ?
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> ah dont worry
[12:36] <raveesh> Haba: Audicity
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> raveesh: is it avail in repos ?
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> main repos
[12:36] <HabaKKuk> anyway will try
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> ')
[12:37] <raveesh> can u help me with my FF  install
[12:37] <kulbir> FF?
[12:37] <raveesh> firefox
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> raveesh: wheres the problem /
[12:37] <HabaKKuk> ?
[12:38] <raveesh> i dont know how to instal it on kubuntu
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> sudo apt-get install ff     ?
[12:38] <raveesh> not working
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> ell
[12:38] <kulbir> raveesh: why?
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> hm
[12:38] <raveesh> gives an error
[12:38] <HabaKKuk> which error ?
[12:38] <raveesh> just a min
[12:39] <raveesh> some directory could not be locked
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> hm..
[12:40] <kulbir> raveesh: :-?
[12:40] <raveesh> ya
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> hae you got all repos updated ?
[12:40] <raveesh> its updating
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> !repositories
[12:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:40] <raveesh> right now
[12:40] <HabaKKuk> just update it thn try again
[12:41] <HabaKKuk> if it wont work still go ot ubuntu forum, i cannot help you as im quite newbie there
[12:41] <raveesh> ok
[12:41] <raveesh> so am i
[12:41] <raveesh> i just installed kubuntu this morning
[12:42] <HabaKKuk> dont worry all will be ok ;)
[12:42] <raveesh> i am good
[12:42] <raveesh> just poking my noze around
[12:42] <HabaKKuk> 'k
[12:44] <HabaKKuk> okay, theres no such package like audicity or so
[12:44] <Jazon> hi.  how do i get kdm back instead of gdm?  i inadvertantly set gdm to default...
[12:44] <HabaKKuk> do you know guys any decent muic makin soft "
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> Jazon: you want to back from kde to gnome or what ?
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[12:45] <Jazon> heh - exactly
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> well
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> when you start PC
[12:45] <HabaKKuk> theres a field where you need to put passwd innit ?
[12:45] <Jazon> no no i know that
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> so wheres your issue ?
[12:46] <Jazon> i want to use kdm and not gdm for that screen
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> no understand
[12:46] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[12:46] <Jazon> hmmm
[12:46] <Jazon> ok.  well, gdm is the gnome login manager.  kdm is the kde login manager
[12:47] <HabaKKuk> yeah fine
[12:47] <hyper> someone is using edgy here? Got a prob with EasyCam2
[12:47] <Jazon> i did an apt-get install gnome or something and inadvertantly allowed it to use gdm instead of kdm.  i want the kdm back
[12:47] <Jazon> just dont know what file that setting is in
[12:47] <HabaKKuk> one sec
[12:47] <pascalFR> HabaKKuk: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm ?
[12:48] <HabaKKuk> pascalFR: theres no needs to reinstal
[12:48] <pascalFR> that's the quick way
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> he's got both kdm and gdm, i think it can be changed in system settings -> sren r so , or when you log to system, theres some opions as well
[12:49] <Jazon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> about which srtting youd like to run
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> dunno
[12:49] <Jazon> thx that was close....
[12:49] <Jazon> :P
[12:49] <HabaKKuk> ;]
[12:49] <Jazon> restarting X now... brb
[12:50] <pascalFR> it should be in /etc/default
[12:51] <HabaKKuk> pascalFR: do u know any makin/mixin music soft /
[12:51] <HabaKKuk> ?\
[12:52] <pascalFR> HabaKKuk: nop
[12:52] <flaccid> hmm what is the flashplayer binary
[12:52] <flaccid> flashplugin-nonfree is just the plugin i assume
[12:52] <pascalFR> google is your friend  or  the wiki in the topic
[12:52] <pascalFR> flaccid: yes
[12:53] <flaccid> what is the name of the player?
[12:53] <flaccid> package
[12:53] <pascalFR> what do u mean ?  independant player ?
[12:53] <flaccid> yeah flash player to play .swf
[12:53] <flaccid> is this the one libflash-swfplayer
[12:55] <pascalFR> flaccid:  dont know  search the wiki
[12:55] <flaccid> ok
[12:55] <huy> hi
[12:56] <huy> can some one help me register my compuer to a domain name?
[12:56] <pascalFR> i have a swf-player  listed
[12:56] <huy> i already bought a domain name but i don't know how to create a domain with my computer
[12:56] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FlashPlayerStandalone   <--- says to use wine ouchy!!
[12:56] <pascalFR> ok
[12:57] <flaccid> huy: create a domain?
[12:57] <huy> yes so i can access my computer remotely such as dev.domain.com
[12:57] <huy> so far i am asking godaddy to forward request
[12:57] <huy> for me
[12:58] <huy> i don't want to rely on godaddy
[12:59] <flaccid> huy: dns
[12:59] <huy> yep
[12:59] <huy> what do i use?? bind9?
[12:59] <flaccid> um
[12:59] <flaccid> is your server in a datacentre
[12:59] <huy> no it is at home atm
[12:59] <flaccid> because if not goddaddy will be more reliable
[12:59] <flaccid> do not serve dns from home
[01:00] <huy> ah
[01:00] <flaccid> bad idea
[01:00] <huy> but if go daddy goes down
[01:00] <huy> so is my server
[01:00] <flaccid> no
[01:00] <flaccid> incorrect
[01:00] <huy> plus go daddy can only forward http request
[01:00] <hyper> someone managed to run EasyCam2 in kubuntu edgy?
[01:00] <flaccid> dns is distributed
[01:00] <flaccid> huy: goddaddy hosts the dns, you host the site/services or whatever
[01:00] <huy> i want to be able to ssh into my home computer using my domain name
[01:01] <flaccid> you simply add an A record with your home static ip to your dns zone with godaddy
[01:01] <flaccid> huy: what is the domain name?
[01:01] <huy> www.riotstudios.net
[01:02] <huy> i want to be able to do ssh mycomputer.riotstudios.net
[01:02] <flaccid> do you wanna host the domain or a subdomain?
[01:02] <flaccid> right a subdomain
[01:02] <huy> yep
[01:02] <huy> and i have another coputer in another location
[01:02] <flaccid> so add an A record with godaddy for mycomputer.riotstudios.net to your home static ip
[01:02] <huy> running another service
[01:02] <huy> ah
[01:02] <huy> ok
[01:03] <flaccid> thats all you need to do...
[01:03] <huy> would that work for all service?
[01:04] <flaccid> what it means is that when someone looks up mycomputer.riotstudios.net the godaddy dns server will respond with that ip
[01:04] <elois> yo
[01:05] <flaccid> which means it 'points' to your home network.. so you can do whatever you want service wise. you have ~64K ports to play with
[01:05] <huy> can you explain why hosting your own dns is bad?
[01:05] <flaccid> its not
[01:05] <flaccid> but it is if you don't have a server in a datacentre that has redundancy
[01:06] <huy> well bad for an average user
[01:06] <flaccid> if you cannot provide 99.9999999% uptime
[01:06] <flaccid> say i do a look up, you are down temporarily
[01:06] <flaccid> ..
[01:06] <huy> ah ok, but does it matter, i mean if i go offline, people won't reach my compuer
[01:06] <huy> which won't be a problem to me
[01:07] <flaccid> but because its distributed, parent dns server @ isp does the lookup. all dns servers down the line ..
[01:07] <huy> but when i go online again, you will
[01:07] <flaccid> thats not dns
[01:07] <huy> oh
[01:07] <flaccid> thats simply you up or down
[01:07] <flaccid> we are talking about serving dns
[01:07] <flaccid> there is no way your home will be more reliable than godaddy
[01:07] <huy> yep am i serving it jus for my network?
[01:08] <flaccid> no
[01:08] <flaccid> master dns server for the whole world...
[01:08] <cpk2> huy: even if godaddy goes down people can still hit you via your ip
[01:08] <flaccid> you can serve internal dns
[01:08] <flaccid> but that is caching name server, not authoritive
[01:08] <flaccid> cpk2: thanks
[01:08] <huy> ah, one problem i am having is that my page when it is loading, it display my ip address
[01:08] <huy> instead of my domain name
[01:09] <huy> and apache is saying that cannot resolve domain name
[01:09] <flaccid> thats because the domain is parked i believe
[01:09] <huy> yes it is.
[01:09] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:09] <flaccid> or maybe its not one sec
[01:10] <flaccid> hmm no it has an A record
[01:10] <huy> people say that godaddy park domain name on their site
[01:10] <flaccid> what do you mean by when it is loading, it displays ip address?
[01:10] <huy> like when it is loading a picture
[01:10] <huy> it display the path to the picture which is my ip  address
[01:11] <huy> try www.riotstudios.net and you see what i mean
[01:11] <flaccid> looks like they non-standard parking
[01:12] <flaccid> are you hosting with godaddy?
[01:12] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:12] <huy> jus the domain name
[01:12] <huy> not the website
[01:12] <flaccid> where are you going to host it?
[01:12] <huy> my compuer
[01:12] <flaccid> right
[01:12] <flaccid> so basically you are being scabbing on the hosting cost?
[01:13] <flaccid> not to sound rude..
[01:13] <huy> what do you mean?
[01:13] <cpk2> why even use godaddy you can get free dns at dyndns
[01:13] <flaccid> you are hosting from home to save paying for hosting?
[01:13] <flaccid> cpk2: not for your own domain you can't
[01:13] <huy> no i am hosting at home to test first
[01:13] <flaccid> huy: is this your home ip <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:13] <huy> yes
[01:13] <cpk2> flaccid: semi-personalized at dyndns
[01:14] <flaccid> huy: i read the pricing today
[01:14] <huy> i'm not paying godaddy for hosting
[01:14] <flaccid> huy: in that case you need to change the A record on godaddy to that IP
[01:14] <huy> i pay them for domain
[01:14] <huy> which they broker for me
[01:14] <flaccid> the A record atm is riotstudios.net	1	A	<IP_ADDRESS>	3600s
[01:14] <flaccid> that needs to be changed
[01:15] <flaccid> to your home IP
[01:15] <huy> yes
[01:15] <huy> pray tell how I should do that?
[01:15] <flaccid> huy: if godaddy is hosting your dns, they should have a control panel to manage
[01:16] <flaccid> if you are planning on hosting on a proper server, i'd suggest allocating a subdomain only for your home web server
[01:16] <huy> what does that mean?
[01:16] <huy> sorry, i'm learning alot here
[01:16] <flaccid> are you going to get hosting?
[01:17] <huy> eventually yes
[01:17] <huy> but now now
[01:17] <huy> *not
[01:17] <flaccid> if you wanna host the TLD, then change the A record
[01:17] <huy> ok
[01:17] <flaccid> tld being top level ie. riotstudios.net
[01:18] <flaccid> you may need to unpark the domain at godaddy
[01:18] <huy> yes
[01:18] <flaccid> as the nameservers are
[01:18] <flaccid> park16.secureserver.net
[01:18] <flaccid> park15.secureserver.net
[01:18] <flaccid> are you paying them for dns hosting?
[01:18] <huy> hmm i just pay for the domain
[01:18] <huy> does that mean i pay for dns hsting?
[01:19] <flaccid> are you sure they are giving you free dns hosting?
[01:19] <huy> i don't know. I bought a domain anem with them
[01:19] <huy> and they park my domain at their server
[01:19] <huy> which is forward to my server
[01:20] <flaccid> cpk2: says 14.95 a year here http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/
[01:20] <flaccid> its not forwarding atm
[01:20] <huy> so if you do a tracert you will see their server instead of mine
[01:20] <flaccid> wtf
[01:20] <flaccid> ah i see
[01:21] <huy> i know
[01:21] <huy> i am confused
[01:21] <flaccid> i'm not
[01:21] <huy> if you do a www.riotstudios.net you get my website on my computer
[01:21] <flaccid> doesn't look like you have dns hosting
[01:21] <huy> but if u do a tracert you get their server
[01:22] <flaccid> i can't see any forwarding
[01:22] <flaccid> i'll try the traceroute
[01:23] <flaccid> basically they are not giving you free dns hosting
[01:23] <huy> yea their server is f*cked at the momment
[01:23] <flaccid> why ?
[01:23] <huy> i dont know
[01:24] <huy> for some reason i cant access my site through www.riotstudios.net
[01:24] <flaccid> then it can't be fucked
[01:24] <huy> but i can access it though my direct ip
[01:24] <huy> i could yesterday though
[01:24] <huy> just to day its acting up
[01:24] <flaccid> what dns server are you using
[01:24] <huy> um none yet
[01:25] <huy> that's why i came here to ask if i need one
[01:25] <flaccid> well thats why
[01:25] <flaccid> dns server resloves name to ip
[01:25] <flaccid> if you don't use a dns server you cannot access any domain
[01:25] <huy> hmm i could usually access it
[01:25] <flaccid> dns changes..
[01:25] <flaccid> what does host riotstudios.net return?
[01:26] <huy>  <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:27] <huy> that's not my ip
[01:27] <flaccid> exactly
[01:27] <flaccid> and if you do a wget riotstudios.net there is no HTTP forwarding
[01:27] <huy> yea they must have turned it off
[01:28] <flaccid> so basically you need proper dns hosting
[01:28] <huy> yes i guess so
[01:28] <flaccid> or you could set up your own dns with bind9 like you said
[01:28] <flaccid> but its not good idea
[01:29] <huy> yep and that's not recommended
[01:29] <huy> i thought purchasing a domain name automatically gives you a dns
[01:29] <flaccid> how much is dns hosting with go daddy
[01:29] <flaccid> nope
[01:29] <flaccid> only authority on the domain
[01:29] <flaccid> you then need two components
[01:29] <flaccid> dns and hosting
[01:29] <huy> 60 for 3 years
[01:30] <yamal> the website at ip <IP_ADDRESS> does try to load a a frame from <IP_ADDRESS>, seems like some "web forwarding" service
[01:30] <huy> yea there is
[01:30] <josh_> who uses freenx?
[01:30] <flaccid> yamal: i think huy put that in himself
[01:31] <robyns-here> anyone here know much about the kubuntu packages on their website?
[01:31] <huy> they have a domain config screen
[01:31] <huy> and there is a website forwarding
[01:31] <yamal> then he could change that right where he created that
[01:31] <huy> so i just put that in
[01:31] <flaccid> heh but your right, could be dodgy godaddies version of forwarding
[01:31] <huy> yea it only work for http
[01:32] <sebsebseb> How can I find out what my saved auto log in password is for  ICQ in Gaim in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[01:32] <huy> wow, and i thought purchasing a domain automatically means you can start hosting website on your computer
[01:32] <flaccid> hehe nah you need dns
[01:32] <robyns-here> sebsebseb, you could try looking in configuration editor in ubuntu
[01:32] <flaccid> what country you in huy?
[01:32] <huy> aus
[01:34] <flaccid> me too
[01:34] <huy> aussie aussie aussie
[01:34] <flaccid> heh and i own hosting business
[01:34] <robyns-here> oi oi oi
[01:35] <huy> heheh
[01:35] <flaccid> go the broncos
[01:35] <robyns-here> crows
[01:35] <huy> sydney siders?
[01:35] <flaccid> li'm a sydney sider
[01:35] <robyns-here> nup, adelaide
[01:35] <flaccid> but moved to hobart
[01:35] <huy> omg why?
[01:35] <flaccid> study
[01:35] <robyns-here> brrr cold in hobart
[01:36] <flaccid> mild winter it was
[01:36] <huy> alot of wierd stuffs in hobart
[01:36] <flaccid> like?
[01:36] <huy> havent you heard about tassie?
[01:36] <huy> people say they all inbred
[01:37] <flaccid> yeah
[01:37] <flaccid> its not like that but
[01:37] <flaccid> http://www.editdns.net/
[01:37] <flaccid> there is some free dns hosting
[01:37] <flaccid> infact google search shows many
[01:37] <huy> is that yours?
[01:37] <flaccid> negative
[01:38] <huy> ah what hosting business are yours?
[01:38] <flaccid> dns hosting with me is prolly 20 bux a year
[01:38] <huy> 20 means nothing for a business
[01:39] <flaccid> i can do you hosting for 5 bux a month
[01:39] <flaccid> but yeah hey pm if you wanna talk
[01:39] <huy> hosting ... as in webhosting?
[01:39] <flaccid> the free dns option is there for you if you wanna run all your stuff from home
[01:39] <huy> omg i cant even access godaddy site
[01:39] <huy> is it down for you?
[01:40] <flaccid> nope seems ok for me
[01:40] <flaccid> hmm huy seem to dissappear lol
[01:41] <huy> probably got hacked
[01:41] <flaccid> u there or you going to timeout?
[01:41] <huy> sorry was chatting with my wife
[01:41] <flaccid> heh you not responding to whois or ctcp
[01:41] <huy> if you can host ruby il host with you
[01:41] <flaccid> let me check
[01:42] <flaccid> this box don't have ruby
[01:42] <flaccid> but i wanna support
[01:42] <flaccid> what does it require?