[16:08] <Ookami> DaZ, okay let's say i want to change my username , the homefolder name ,, and all .. like a username in a fresh install .. what do i do ?
[16:08] <DaZ> Ookami: you use usermod
[16:08] <]sober]> Ookami, like making a new user and delete the old one?
[16:08] <Ookami> DaZ, Sober, no no .. just change the name ^^
[16:08] <Classic> nastas, that might solve it...
[16:09] <Classic> nastas, one last thing
[16:09] <Ookami> DaZ, i'm not an expert ,, can you tell me the whole command ?
[16:09] <Classic> do this
[16:09] <M1TE5H> yancho: if you have a new hd then format it with gparted included in live cd
[16:09] <DaZ> Ookami: usermod -h
[16:09] <theadmin> Ookami, well, to change the home folder name you can use "mv ~ "new folder name""
[16:09] <DaZ> or man usermod
[16:09] <Kins> Shit
[16:09] <Kins> I like shit
[16:09] <Kins> Shit is nice
[16:09] <FloodBot4> Kins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <LjL> !ops | kins
[16:09] <theadmin> !language | kins
[16:10] <Guest29458> hi
[16:10] <Classic> insert a card in it, then type in terminal: sudo mount /dev/mmc and then press tab and let me know what options it shows
[16:10] <nastas> Classic: no options
[16:10] <M1TE5H> yancho: http://xtremediary.blogspot.com/search/label/Ubuntu just check it out I think this link can help you
[16:11] <JustMozz1> hi guys. how can I remove items from the systray?
[16:11] <Classic> nastas, then it is not installed at all....
[16:11] <theadmin> Ookami: Okay, so, "usermod -l newusername -d newhomefolder -m"
[16:11] <]sober]> JustMozz1, you can often rightclick on them and look about, or set up so they don't run on startup?
[16:11] <nastas> Classic: is there any way to install it?
[16:11] <genii> Ookami: Basically to do: sudo usermod -dm /home/new-username-here -l new-username-here old-username-here
[16:12] <theadmin> genii: What the old bit is for?!
[16:12] <theadmin> Oh I got it lol
[16:12] <Classic> any buffs out there? how do we install a dev ?
[16:12] <nastas> Classic: or just give me a hint to search for
[16:12] <Ookami> theadmin, so whichone ?
[16:12] <JustMozz1> ]sober]: the thing is that I want to remove the network indicator from the systray. I tried right click but there is no option to remove it.
[16:12] <drack> h
[16:12] <SMiTTY> Anyone have any dealings with Canonical? And if so, how is the support from them?
[16:12] <drack> то
[16:12] <theadmin> Ookami: Do what genii said, I'm not a pro in this stuff
[16:12] <drack> привет всем)
[16:13] <theadmin> !ru | drack
[16:13] <JustMozz1> or can I set the gnome-panel to not be always on top?
[16:13] <Ookami> genii, so it's like this sudo usermod -dm /home/&&& -l &&& old&&&
[16:14] <theadmin> Ookami: Lol no, oldusername is the OLD username of yours, one you have now
[16:14] <Ookami> lol ,, i know :P
[16:14] <]sober]> JustMozz1, system - admin -  startup applications - network manager, remove checkmark?  i dunno if that kills the functionality also though
[16:14] <DEViUS> hello i did a TCP port scan using nmap on my pc, and found pTCP and UDP port 17500 open, i checked it online and it seems to be for a Trojan Horse, i need help pliz this isnt nice
[16:15] <JustMozz1> ]sober]: it would
[16:15] <Ookami> genii, theadmin, that will change the folder name .. and "the username that shows at the upper right corner" .. right?
[16:15] <LjL> DEViUS: if that's a PC running Ubuntu, install and run "rkhunter" and/or "chkrootkit"
[16:15] <Classic> nastas, go into bios and see if the controller is enabled
[16:15] <nastas> ok brb Classic
[16:15] <theadmin> Ookami: Well yeah, though, unless you set the "Real name"
[16:15] <DaZ> DEViUS: netstat
[16:15] <jb_> bonjour
[16:15] <Ookami> theadmin, i don't get .. but i'll just try it ^^
[16:15] <Ookami> brb
[16:16] <theadmin> Ookami" You might have to relogin too
[16:16] <genii> Ookami: The -dm /home/newname    moves all the stuff from old dir to new one with the right name. The -l newname  os the part which changes the name.
[16:17] <DEViUS> LjL, ok ill get them
[16:18] <dewman> ]sober], well for what ever reason when i installed the debugging utility for kde the application started to work....
[16:18] <dewman> ]sober], very odd stuff. owell. its working now. =) yay!
[16:18] <Ookami> back
[16:19] <]sober]> dewman, you have now learned how to frighten things into working.  Congratulations. :)
[16:19] <Ookami> genii, theadmin, nothing happend :S
[16:19] <dewman> ]sober], LOL.....
[16:19] <genii> Ookami: You didn't put all those "&&&&" in the command, did you?
[16:19] <Ookami> lol no
[16:20] <Ookami> i put letters .. small and i did it right
[16:20] <DEViUS> LjL, are you well experienced in sing those 2 apps
[16:20] <DEViUS> ?
[16:20] <CharlesPito> folks, how can i check the checksum sha1 ?
[16:20] <Ookami> genii, wanna try one more time? plz
[16:20] <DaZ> CharlesPito: sha1sum?
[16:20] <LjL> DEViUS: there is very little to using them... you just start them and let them run. if they give you alarms, you post them
[16:20] <Nicekiwi9> Dell Vostro 1510, Fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 and on first and every boot they onboard touchpad and keyboard fail to work, help?
[16:20] <genii> Ookami: No message back means command went OK. Need a logoff-old-name then logon-newname cycle
[16:20] <Classic> hello,  is there any way to automatically clean up ~/ directory from all the hidden configuration folders?
[16:21] <CharlesPito> Daz: sometimes i see md5, sha1 ...
[16:21] <Ookami> oh ,, there was a message back
[16:21] <DaZ> Classic: rm -r ~/.*
[16:21] <DEViUS> LjL, so i updated it using --update, now i just use --check    , thats it ??
[16:21] <M1TE5H> For All Ubuntu Begineers Must Check This Link This Is Very Useful 4 You http://xtremediary.blogspot.com/2009/11/linux-security-tips.html
[16:21] <Ookami> genii, there was a message abck a log list of options or something
[16:21] <Classic> DaZ, i ment for apps that are uninstalled
[16:21] <tempspace> Does anybody know where Ubuntu kicks off syndaemon from? I want to change the value it uses for the time it turns off the touchpad between typing?
[16:21] <DaZ> eh [;
[16:21] <LjL> Classic: there is not
[16:21] <Classic> ah, ok, thanks
[16:22] <Ookami> genii, ok let's say new username = a ,, old one = b ,,, what would the command be
[16:22] <Classic> so do it by hand then
[16:22] <CharlesPito> Daz: thanks DAZ, put it on your mother computer
[16:22] <]sober]> tempspace, sorry, using touchfreeze myself
[16:22] <tempspace> ]sober]: Problems with syndaemon?
[16:23] <]sober]> tempspace, more that i was able to get this running exactly how i wanted in little/no time...
[16:23] <tonyvvt> ciao
[16:23] <DaZ> Ookami: first logout  [;
[16:23] <Bacta> Will I be able to boot a 9.10 iso off a DVD?
[16:23] <Ookami> DaZ, i did
[16:23] <Ookami> i think the command wasn't right .. so i want to try one more time
[16:23] <tonyvvt> !list
[16:24] <genii> Ookami: Ah... i messed up where the -m option should go
[16:24] <genii> Ookami:  sudo usermod -d /home/new-username-here -m -l new-username-here old-username-here
[16:24] <Ookami> genii .. careful man :D .. ok i'll try this one
[16:24] <DEViUS> LjL, i get many warnings
[16:24] <Datawire> Bah, I feel like an idiot. I'm new to Ubuntu and I can't figure out why Firefox doesn't seem to want to stream video.
[16:24] <generallee> Is there any way to get a server restart into recovery console?
[16:25] <genii> Ookami: The -m should have been after the new home dir name, etc etc
[16:25] <]sober]> commono issue, Datawire .
[16:25] <Bacta> Datawire: Do you have Flash installed?
[16:25] <Datawire> I honestly don't know, I just installed Ubuntu.
[16:25] <generallee> so i can log in over ssh and do the things i need to do?
[16:25] <LjL> DEViUS: post them to pastebin.ca
[16:25] <Bacta> Make sure the Flash plugin is installed
[16:25] <Classic> Bacta, should be able to, just make sure you go in BIOS or device boot order and switch to CD/DVD to first position
[16:25] <DEViUS> LjL, ok
[16:25] <Bacta> If I want to dual boot windows 7 will I need to install that first?
[16:26] <Datawire> Flash plug-in, alright, one second.
[16:26] <Ookami> genii, it says usermod: user "oldone" is currently logged in
[16:26] <DaZ> Bacta: no but it spares you grub restoring
[16:26] <Bacta> Datawire: Ubuntu doesn't seem to come bundled with that, a pet gripe of mine
[16:26] <DEViUS> LjL, there http://pastebay.com/77337
[16:26] <Datawire> I have Shockwave Flash (Gnash?) Plug-in.
[16:27] <Bacta> I would also suggest Chrome for Linux, it's really really good and has much better performance
[16:27] <trism> Datawire: you don't want gnash, you want to install flashplugin-installer (so uninstall any gnash plugins)
[16:27] <DaZ> Bacta: and it's spyware
[16:27] <LjL> DEViUS: i don't see any real warning. the one about "unhide" is normal AFAIK
[16:27] <Datawire> Alright, so Flash website for the plug-in?
[16:27] <Bacta> DaZ: ?
[16:27] <Ookami> DaZ
[16:28] <Ookami> DaZ, how do i logout and put the command ?
[16:28] <Ookami> DaZ, i mean while i'm out ^^
[16:28] <DaZ> Ookami: create new account
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[16:28] <Datawire> A-ha, found the Flash plug-in in the Tools tab.
[16:28] <Ookami> hm .. ok
[16:28] <trism> Datawire: no, it is in the repository, if you bring up a terminal (Applications/Accessories/Terminal) you can type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer to install it (or you can use System/Administration/Synaptic which may be easier for removing gnash)
[16:28] <DEViUS> LjL, but there are 3 suspect apps and 2 suspect files, oh and btw i have wine, could it be a windows virus running?
[16:28] <Datawire> Thanks guys, trying to learn.
[16:28] <DEViUS> LjL, thats why maybe its not detected
[16:28] <DEViUS> =[
[16:29] <zeitlos> yo
[16:29] <Ookami> DaZ, add user = gray
[16:29] <Ookami> ?
[16:29] <Datawire> "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" in the terminal then?
[16:29] <DaZ> Ookami: sudo adduser isuckatunix
[16:29] <DaZ> logout, login in the terminal
[16:29] <trism> Datawire: easiest way
[16:30] <Ookami> DaZ, loool .. i suck more than u do :P
[16:30] <nastas> Classic: everything seems ok
[16:30] <DaZ> Ookami: gpasswd -a isuckatunix wheel
[16:30] <Classic> nastas, then im out of ideas
[16:30] <gabbler> hi can someone please tell me the apt command to check a version of an application (preferably both in stalled and searched for in apt-cache)
[16:30] <ubuntu_> running live cd
[16:31] <Ookami> brb guys
[16:31] <DaZ> Ookami: or just set root password, but i don't think it'd be good for you :f
[16:32] <trism> gabbler: apt-cache policy package_name will tell you the version (and whether it is installed or not)
[16:32] <gabbler> thanks trism
[16:32] <Datawire> Uh.
[16:33] <Datawire> I guess that concludes the first time I use the Terminal.
[16:33] <Datawire> And it worked, thanks.
[16:33] <trism> Datawire: what's wrong?
[16:33] <chiques> Does anyone know of any apps to two way text from withing Ubuntu?
[16:34] <]sober]> chiques, you can use an email client or something like pidgin, just takes some working at it
[16:34] <Datawire> Alright, now the important thing is out of the way.
[16:34] <chiques> ]sober], pidgin would be convenient, I'll check that out.
[16:34] <Datawire> In order for me to properly learn to use Ubuntu, I should check out the community documentation, right?
[16:35] <]sober]> hrm.  xchat doesn't like me at all
[16:35] <iiiii> why would exim not honor my .forward file?
[16:35] <]sober]> Datawire, how  much do you feel that you know, yet?
[16:35] <Datawire> None, I just installed it.
[16:35] <Datawire> ...was just tired of Windows, and was interested.
[16:35] <kuna236> gabbler: apt-cache showpkg packageName
[16:35] <]sober]> you made it here with it?
[16:35] <Geoffrey2> hey everyone, I recently purchased one of those internal USB multi-card readers...any particular trick to getting Ubuntu to recognize a card when it's installed?
[16:36] <Slart> Geoffrey2: afaik those normally just work.. when you connect it you get a couple of new drives
[16:36] <oCean_> Datawire: pocketguide is nice start/overview. Get free copy: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[16:36] <Datawire> Then I shall start there, thanks!
[16:36] <]sober]> oCean_, that's exactly what i was looking to find for him :)
[16:36] <Geoffrey2> both lights are on, so it's getting power and a card is in, but I'm not getting any device options
[16:37] <oCean_> ]sober]: bookmarked the page :)
[16:37] <]sober]> Datawire, it's a good balance between "this is a computer, can you say com-pyou-ter?" and "just type apt-get grep install man 23p9o8sdl"
[16:37] <aman> can anyone tell me which option will show full details of a *.tg.bz2 archive -cjf, -tjvf, -zdf, -txf ??????
[16:37] <generallee> whats the default root psw?
[16:37] <generallee> for ubuntu
[16:37] <generallee> Is there any?
[16:37] <Slart> !root | generallee
[16:38] <Slart> generallee: nope.. there isn't one
[16:38] <generallee> shit
[16:38] <zeitlos> hrm
[16:38] <generallee> Ive chowned /usr/bin/*
[16:38] <ubuntu_> ubuntu book that best covers in's and out's  of installing ubuntu on new hard drive?
[16:38] <generallee> so sudo aint working ;)
[16:38] <DaZ> lawl
[16:38] <generallee> hehe
[16:38] <generallee> Its a mess
[16:38] <oCean_> aman: tvjf
[16:38] <kuna236> ouch
[16:38] <DaZ> generallee: chroot
[16:39] <generallee> chroot /ust/bin/*
[16:39] <Datawire> Well, see, so far I've been learning how networking works, but I wanted to learn Linux for a while now.
[16:39] <generallee> ?
[16:39] <LjL> generallee: ... reboot with init=/bin/sh and fix that (or whatever recovery mode there is these days)
[16:39] <Slart> generallee: boot from a live cd and fix it
[16:39] <Datawire> Figured I'd start with Ubuntu.
[16:39] <aman> oCean_, i mean to show up maximum details
[16:39] <zeitlos> cant check sfv files with gcfv, right clicked sfv file, open with gcfv.py, nothing running
[16:39] <]sober]> ubuntu_, linux for dummies works, but the pocketguide is brill for it
[16:39] <ubuntu_> thankx sober
[16:39] <LjL> generallee: have you only chown'd, or also chmod'd?
[16:40] <generallee> LjL, both
[16:40] <DaZ> eh [;
[16:40] <generallee> which gives me this when im running sudo:
[16:40] <oCean_> aman: what do you need more then the -xjvf output?
[16:40] <generallee> sudo: must be setuid root
[16:40] <zeitlos> http://code.google.com/p/gcfv/   i have those progs installed, cant help
[16:40] <generallee> LjL, if I reboot with init-/bin/sh
[16:40] <]sober]> oCean_, what would be the next level of instruction that you'd consider after the pocketguide?
[16:41] <generallee> Will networking /ssh work as well?
[16:41] <generallee> I dont have the box near me.
[16:41] <aman> oCean_, i just need to confirm that it gives the maximum details of the *.tar.bz2 archive than the other 3....:)
[16:41] <LjL> generallee: no, it won't
[16:41] <generallee> ok.
[16:41] <diabolix> is there a way to tell the installer to use vesa video?
[16:41] <oCean_> ]sober]: most likely a personal issue I guess... since one user might be more interested in only running some apps, other would want to check out some specifics
[16:41] <generallee> Thanks anyway LjL
[16:41] <fcuk112> i installed nvidia 1.90 drivers and sometimes i get white screen flashes.  in nvidia settings panel, the recovered gpu errors increases.  how do i prevent these flashes/errors from occurring?
[16:42] <fcuk112> the flashes are very intermittent.
[16:42] <generallee> Ill boot into recovery mode when i have time to travel to det DC
[16:42] <]sober]> okay oCean_ , thanks.  trying to learn via google means spending a fair amount of time sorting through sewage
[16:42] <Geoffrey2> hmmm, remove media, I get five "Generic STORAGE DEVICE" icons
[16:43] <oCean_> aman: other options are used for other actions (such as compress) or for other archives (such as .tar.gz).
[16:43] <Geoffrey2> in the Computer window....but none will open
[16:43] <plitter> hey, can anyone give me a link to the latest version of heroes of newerth?
[16:43] <aman> oCean_, thanks man for confirming me....:)
[16:43] <plitter> just got a betakey
[16:43] <Geoffrey2> shortly after I insert the media, all five dissapear again
[16:44] <yancho> is it possible to create a cron job in ubuntu live cd?
[16:44] <oCean_> ]sober]: indeed. Make your choice in what interests you most. Then you can narrow down the documentation you are looking for. For example, after desktop install, many users setup their own webserver (lamp = linux, apache, mysql and php)
[16:44] <Classic> guys, where does ubuntu store shortcuts in applicaton panel?
[16:45] <EastDallas> Classic: Right at the bottom of the Applications menu.  It's called Ubuntu Software Center
[16:45] <]sober]> oCean_, just explaining what i'd like to setup would take half an hour :)  it's icky
[16:45] <Classic> EastDallas, i meant on harddrive
[16:45] <diabolix> Classic, its not really a folder of shortcuts. its a configuration file that gnome reads.
[16:46] <Classic> diabolix, just i uninstalled wine, and i still have shortcuts for it..
[16:46] <EastDallas> Classic:  I misunderstood.  The software center used to be called the "ubuntu store"
[16:46] <EastDallas> Classic:  Do you want to add something?
[16:46] <Classic> EastDallas, no, i need to remove links to wine that is uninstalled
[16:46] <plitter> someone playing heroes of newerth with ubuntu 9.10?
[16:47] <EastDallas> Classic: Right click on the word 'Applications' and choose Edit Menus
[16:47] <]sober]> Classic, if you rightclick on applications and go to edit...
[16:47] <ubuntu_> ubuntu picks up my wireless quick. is there any other distro that is that quick? i am thinkin of dual boot.
[16:47] <]sober]> EastDallas > ]sober]
[16:47] <Classic> :)
[16:47] <EastDallas> lol
[16:47] <]sober]> i blame lag.
[16:48] <Classic> EastDallas, ]sober] once a nub, always a nub
[16:48] <Classic> thanks
[16:48] <]sober]> Classic, it's ok.  often it seems that there's intuitive answers that i don't find until i'm waist deep in conf files
[16:48] <Classic> cuz i was searching hdd for wine*.desktop
[16:48] <Classic> yes
[16:49] <fahadsadah> Some people like being waste-deep in configs
[16:49] <fahadsadah> I do.
[16:49] <Diverdude> how do i reset firefox?
[16:49] <Classic> :)
[16:49] <]sober]> fahadsadah, there's medication available for people like you. :P
[16:49] <fahadsadah> (then again, that's part of why I don't like Ubuntu)
[16:49] <Classic> Diverdude, delete ~/.firefox
[16:49] <nigelcourtney> Hello, anyone clued up on HP DL servers?
[16:50] <fahadsadah> !anyone | nigelcourtney
[16:50] <aman> oCean_, can we check path of all users???
[16:50] <nigelcourtney> Ok, sorry, I need some help with devices on a HP DL740, My problem is to do with Hardware conflict?
[16:50] <EastDallas> Diverdude: You can create a new profile.
[16:51] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, what hardware is conflicting, how did you suss that it''s a conflict, and what are you trying to attain as a goal?
[16:51] <fahadsadah> nigelcourtney: Please can you describe your exact problem?
[16:51] <EastDallas> Diverdude:  Is that what you want to do, or is there a certain problem you are trying to fix?
[16:51] <EastDallas> Diverdude: New Profile=starting from scratch
[16:52] <Diverdude> EastDallas, well....somehow a page is saved as a bookmark, but i dont find it in the bookmarks, and i want to delete it
[16:52] <Diverdude> EastDallas, how do i make a new profile?
[16:52] <Kwpolska> diverdude, oh, f**k, firefox, am i right/
[16:52] <lazydragoon> someone know how to put cedega shorcut in the desktop ?
[16:52] <fahadsadah> Diverdude: Delete the hidden folder called .firefox in your home directory
[16:52] <]sober]> Diverdude, go to that site and click the yellow star at the far right of the bar?
[16:52] <fahadsadah> !language | Kwpolska
[16:52] <Kwpolska> Diverdude: do not delete
[16:53] <diabolix> you can just delete the .mozilla or .firefox directory, or whatever it is.
[16:53] <Xcerca> hey,  how do you know in GRUB which partition is which  ,  like if i know /dev/sdb1   is Windows 7  , how do i put it in menu.lst to boot windows 7 ?
[16:53] <Classic> :)
[16:53] <nigelcourtney> not sure this is the right forum as you guys are all ubuntu fans. It's just last time I was here I found that people were helpfull with my problem
[16:53] <Kwpolska> diverdude: go to bookmarks management in bookmarks menu
[16:53] <EastDallas> Diverdude: Searching for a link a link
[16:53] <Kwpolska> diverdude: select unassigned bookmarks
[16:53] <Kwpolska> and move it
[16:53] <Diverdude> hmm
[16:53] <Classic> ok... if you delete ~/.firefox you will lose your current history, bookmarks, etc.. but at least you will have a fresh firefox profile
[16:53] <]sober]> nigelcourtney,  fans might be a strong word.  trying to learn, perhaps....
[16:53] <nigelcourtney> basically I dont know were else to look as the HP proliant forum has no help
[16:54] <Kwpolska> it's unneeded
[16:54] <EastDallas> Diverdude: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager
[16:55] <nigelcourtney> Well, I need help, basically I have a great server, everything works except the video card, and presently I am running windows 2003. I did download ubuntu but it didnt give me gui and I need one as it needs to accessed by famqily
[16:55] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, single video card in it?  do you get a login screen only?
[16:56] <diabolix> nigelcourtney, the ubuntu server version is for people who don't wan't/need a gui. you probably just want the normal version of ubuntu. the only difference is what comes pre-installed.
[16:56] <EastDallas> Diverdude: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_Firefox
[16:56] <Diverdude> EastDallas, ahhh yes i got it deleted thx
[16:56] <makobi> klk
[16:56] <nigelcourtney> no I get functionality, be it very slow. There is a second ( onboard ) card which is disabled, so I can see a screen but very slow, when I go to device manager it comes up "code 12" not enough resources
[16:57] <nigelcourtney> would the normal version of ubuntu handle 8xxeons ? if it did great !, I do like it and use it regularly
[16:57] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, disabled where?  suggest ensuring that it's disabled in the bios proper
[16:57] <nigelcourtney> there is an on board switch to disable it,
[16:58] <diabolix> nigelcourtney, yes. its the same operating system, its just that one version comes with a server, and the other comes with a gui.
[16:58] <aman> oCean_, u there?
[16:58] <yancho> is it possible to create a cron job in ubuntu live cd? if yes can someone please provide some info .. crontab fails on me
[16:58] <Kwpolska> yancho: it is.
[16:58] <Kwpolska> does*
[16:58] <nigelcourtney> interesting........... so...... it can handle multiple processors *8 and the ram (10gb) yeah?, fantastic !
[16:58] <Diverdude> I must say....Obama is really something...I admire that man!
[16:59] <yancho> Kwpolska: any tips how i should do it please?
[16:59] <aman> cananyone tell me,, when we check permission of a file it shows owner of the file in 3rd column but what corresponds to 4th column.???
[16:59] <diabolix> nigelcourtney, you probably want the 64 bit version, but yes. its the same kernel in both oses.
[16:59] <nigelcourtney> ]sober] no there are no options to disable the video card in bios , justt a hardware switch
[16:59] <Kwpolska> yancho: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cron or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=crontab
[16:59] <oCean_> aman: yes, I'm here. 4th column is (user-) group
[16:59] <nigelcourtney> diablolix, can I just check, I know my cpus are 32bit so still install 64bit os?
[17:00] <LjL> Kwpolska: that's not useful.
[17:00] <diabolix> nigelcourtney, xeons are 64 bit.
[17:00] <nigelcourtney> diablolix, bus is 64 bit
[17:00] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, you're primarily trying to get it work within win03, with linux as a trial to fix it, if i'm understanding right
[17:00] <nigelcourtney> oh
[17:00] <aman> oCean_, how can we change that?? if we want to?
[17:00] <Kwpolska> LJL: google is our friend.
[17:00] <LjL> !google | Kwpolska
[17:00] <diabolix> nigelcourtney, you wouldn't be able to use 10GB of ram if they weren't.
[17:00] <oCean_> aman: have a read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:00] <yancho> Kwpolska: i searched .. and i know how to use cron .. the problem is that on the live cd its like its not saving or something .. when i open crontab it comes as if its opening something and hangs
[17:00] <nigelcourtney> ]sober] yes but there is nothing to stop me moving over to linux perminantly
[17:00] <Templar_Xion> What command can you use to determine how many physical RAM DIMMs you haveo n yoru system?
[17:01] <LjL> yancho: you mean the system-wide crontab in /etc/crontab, or your user's?
[17:01] <Templar_Xion> Including unused slots.
[17:01] <nigelcourtney> diablix, I thought that was the  physical address extension that did that?
[17:01] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, i actually had a recent problem that was similar, but it was a heat issue.  found two burst caps on the video card and a dead fan.  ymmv on that though
[17:01] <M1TE5H> aman: The 4th is group permission details
[17:01] <yancho> LjL: since im in a livecd .. i am on the systemwide .. sudo crontab i did
[17:01] <LjL> yancho: "sudo crontab" edits root's crontab, which is *not* the same as the systemwide /etc/crontab
[17:01] <aman> oCean_, M1TE5H thanks...:)
[17:02] <nigelcourtney> right, ok well I am going to install ubuntu 9.10 on it, see what it can and cannot do,
[17:02] <LjL> yancho: have you tried "crontab" without sudo (you might need root privileges for what you're doing, i don't know, but just to troubleshoot)
[17:02] <M1TE5H> aman: by default in ubuntu same group name as you are login name
[17:02] <LjL> yacc: "crontab -e", that is
[17:02] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, you could try using ubuntu (normal version) from a liveCD first (or from usb, whatever)
[17:02] <LjL> yancho: "crontab -e", that is
[17:02] <aman> M1TE5H, can we change that?
[17:02] <nigelcourtney> yeah I do have a live cd
[17:02] <linduxed> does the normal installer for karmic have options for drive/home encryption, or will i have to get the alternate installer for that?
[17:02] <oCean_> Templar_Xion: I think "sudo lshw -C memory" will show that
[17:02] <yancho> LjL: great now im in the menu to choose the editor
[17:02] <om26er> linduxed, yes it have
[17:03] <]sober]> nigelcourtney, that'd be my suggestion to start out with
[17:03] <nigelcourtney> right booting up the beast now
[17:03] <Templar_Xion> oCean_, looks like I have 2 banks... Thank you. :)
[17:05] <Segaja> hi, was SLiM removed from the repositories of karmic?
[17:06] <diabolix> I had less trouble installing ubuntu than win7. altho I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
[17:06] <fahadsadah> Segaja: Yes, but it is in lucid (10.04)
[17:07] <nigelcourtney>  diablix , I think It may be an install job rather  than live cd as the system hangs on selecting that option
[17:07] <linduxed> om26er: ok thx
[17:07] <Segaja> fahadsadah: hm, but atm i'm on 9.10 and i would like to use it
[17:07] <fahadsadah> i386 or amd64?
[17:08] <yancho> LjL: i want to cp the contents of a mounted cifs .. but mount is not showing the path where it mountd it so i can use it in the cp which im putting in the cron job
[17:08] <Segaja> ubuntu 9.10 32bit
[17:08] <fahadsadah> Segaja: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/slim/slim_1.3.1-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[17:08] <diabolix> whoa, I like the new theme. they finally changed it.
[17:08] <Segaja> thanks
[17:08] <LjL> yancho: uh, are you sure it's mounted, if 'mount' is not showing it...?
[17:08] <]sober]> i have a non-problem question.  why not use debian instead of ubuntu?
[17:09] <g0nz0|Boston> !ot | ]sober]
[17:09] <fahadsadah> ]sober]: Many reasons
[17:09] <LjL> yancho: keep in mind that being able to browse it in GNOME doesn't mean it's mounted - GNOME has its own thing for connecting to CIFS
[17:09] <fahadsadah> The community, the support, the ease-of-use
[17:09] <yancho> LjL: ow i see .. coz its connected to gnome
[17:09] <nigelcourtney> out of interest, do many people put ubuntu onto proliants?
[17:10] <LjL> yancho: you need to issue a mount command manually to actually have it mounted. like, sudo mount //server/share /mnt/blah -o username=blah
[17:10] <xayon> Hi there duedes, I'm remastering a ubuntu iso on wich for lots of reasons I had to delete fast user switcher applet package. How can I remove it (from a script) from panel config?
[17:11] <nigelcourtney> ah, I have a proper ubuntu error now, (EE) NV(0) No valid FB address in PCI config space
[17:11] <LjL> xayon: why from a script? i'm not familiar with that, but couldn't you just modify the defaults package that has the panel config?
[17:11] <eaglestar> hi i have a roblem with my ubuntu it says init mountall process 294 terminated with status 127 i have no idea what this means any help?
[17:12] <xayon> LjL: what?
[17:12] <xayon> "defaults package that has the panel config"?
[17:12] <Kwpolska> leave.
[17:13] <eaglestar> can anyone help me please
[17:13] <nigelcourtney> Anyone?
[17:13] <mMezquitale> !dnscache
[17:14] <LjL> !info kubuntu-default-settings | xayon ehm, like this.. i'm not sure what's the equivalent for ubuntu though
[17:14] <fahadsadah> eaglestar: Are there any other error messages accompanying that one, or is it alone?
[17:14] <LjL> xayon: but i'm just saying, while not knowing the specific - there has to be *some* package that contains the config file where the panel is configured. so couldn't you just ship your CD with a modified version of that package?
[17:14] <texas319> let me get yalls take ..... KDE vs GNOME
[17:14] <mMezquitale> !grub2
[17:15] <]sober]> gnome.  anyhow....
[17:15] <LjL> !poll | texas319
[17:15] <mMezquitale> !forum > mMezquitale
[17:15] <eaglestar> fahadsadah says mountall proess terminated
[17:15] <wolter> Can somebody help me reset pulseaudio to the state it was when i first installed karmic?
[17:16] <xayon> LjL: not a cd, a pen, so it's easyer. I don't need to do such a thing ;). The problem is I can't find where it's configured
[17:16] <fahadsadah> eaglestar: Have you recently made any changes?
[17:16] <xayon> and when removing the package... the config still there so I have to suppose they've put that in default gnome-panel stuff
[17:16] <xayon> and I don't like it (ion3 user here :D)
[17:17] <eaglestar> yes i did an update and now it doesnt work
[17:17] <LjL> xayon: uhm, i see. it's probably configured by gconf... but i'm not really the best person to help you as i use kde
[17:17] <ironmanerz> has anyone ever setup an ubuntu dns server w/ dhcp to share an alltel cell dial up internet connection from a windows machine?
[17:17] <aman> do cron have a log file by default??????
[17:18] <xayon> LjL: I've found it but is a pain in the ass.
[17:18] <helloworld> .w helloworld
[17:18] <xayon> however, will work for me :)
[17:18] <aman> can anyone tell me?? do cron have a log file by default??????
[17:18] <xayon> LjL: thanks.
[17:18] <LjL> aman: it logs to syslog by default
[17:18] <nigelcourtney> right before I disapear , anyone had any experience of configuring PCI devices on a Proliant?
[17:18] <LjL> !patience | aman
[17:18] <henkpoley> After going from ext3 -> ext4 are there any tricks to get some speed improvements ?
[17:18] <LjL> xayon: where is it?
[17:18] <aman> LjL, u mean the main log file of the linux disto?
[17:18] <LjL> aman: i mean /var/log/syslog
[17:19] <eaglestar> fahadsadah: yes i did an update and now it doesnt work at all
[17:19] <amigamia1> hey is seveas still involved here? does he still work here?
[17:19] <freeride> please help with wine repository for Karmic
[17:19] <aman> LjL, ok thanks buddy, and will remain patient...:)
[17:19] <LjL> amigamia1: probably a better question for #ubuntu-irc or #ubuntu-ops
[17:19] <brenda> I am having trouble with my epson cx8400 printer in xsane. It will not detect the scanner at all.
[17:19] <fahadsadah> eaglestar: I'm sorry, I don't know.
[17:19] <amigamia1> umm ok
[17:20] <freeride> !wine
[17:20] <LjL> amigamia1: or for seveas. he's online, you know ;)
[17:20] <amigamia1> ok ljl
[17:20] <Seveas> amigamia1, ?
[17:20] <amigamia1> hi seveas just wishing you a fun holiday etc. it's me.
[17:20] <Seveas> LjL, shh... I was hiding! :P
[17:20] <amigamia1> i only remember you seveas and bob2 who were here in the beginning basically.
[17:20] <Seveas> amigamia1, thanks! Have a fun holiday as well
[17:21] <amigamia1> i will
[17:21] <LjL> Seveas: you aren't very good at it ;(
[17:21] <mMezquitale> amigamia1, most users here are volunteers, nobody "works" here, if you have a question just go ahead and ask
[17:21] <amigamia1> you must be lagging mMezquitale
[17:22] <LjL> or not reading :)
[17:22] <mMezquitale> amigamia1, i just came back to my laptop
[17:22] <amigamia1> ahh i see senor
[17:24] <ironmanerz> has anyone ever setup an ubuntu dns server w/ dhcp to share (forward dns) an alltel cell dial up internet connection from a windows machine?
[17:25] <aman> LjL, i know that there are two files at.deny and at.allow in /etc, if at.allow doesn't exists then at.deny is checked but what if both doesn't exists?? Will i be able to run 'at' command as a root????
[17:25] <brenda> HELP! xsane will not see my scanner in 9.10. I have epson cx8400 and so far I cannot find any forum topics relating to this. I also can not print with it as it is not detected. when I run lsusb I can see every little detail about it so I know the kernel sees it.
[17:27] <LizardK|ng> i need some advise with GRUB, which isn't working.  would removing the current (windows) boot drive and making the ubuntu drive the boot drive and reinstalling GRUB have a better chance of working, or would installing GRUB2 be a better shot?
[17:27] <huggesanp> /dev/sda3 is mounted on / and /mnt. Is this a problem?
[17:28] <LjL> aman: ehm... i don't know. i honestly never used those files. but i guess they can both exist and you can have wildcards in one...
[17:29] <Segaja> hi, on older ubuntu version the startup splash screen had a progress bar, which showed how far the boot was. on ubuntu 9.10 i only see a black screen with a white ubuntu logo on it and the console box with the messages
[17:29] <EastDallas> brenda: Do you have libsane-extras installed?  (at a terminal type sudo apt-get install libsane-extras to install it)
[17:29] <brenda> EastDallas, let me double check
[17:30] <brenda> EastDallas, yes I do indeed
[17:30] <aman> LjL, actually i have read the 'man at' but there is only one condition when at.allow is not there but not the conditin when both files not there that is why i asked...:)
[17:31] <EastDallas> brenda:  To get it to print, try choosing cx7800 as the model.
[17:31] <brenda> EastDallas, where?
[17:31] <EastDallas> brenda: has the scanner ever worked?
[17:31] <brenda> EastDallas, yes it worked in version 9.04
[17:32] <brenda> EastDallas, I upgraded to 9.10 and it doesn't work at all now
[17:32] <guntbert> huggesanp: could lead to runnning in circles - how did you manage that?
[17:32] <EastDallas> Brenda: Go to System>Administration>Printing
[17:32] <brenda> EastDallas, ok one second
[17:32] <guntbert> huggesanp: could lead to running in circles - how did you manage that?
[17:32] <huggesanp> guntbert: mount /dev/sda3 /mnt when /dev/sda3 was mounted on /
[17:33] <EastDallas> Brenda: Right-Click on the printer and choose 'Properties'
[17:33] <brenda> EastDallas, my model seems to be listed there
[17:33] <brenda> EastDallas, ok
[17:33] <aman> LjL, i got the answer it work as a root if both files not there.....:)...i thought may be this info would be useful to you tooo....:P
[17:33] <EastDallas> brenda: 'make and model' click 'change'
[17:33] <guntbert> huggesanp: ok then just sudo umount /mnt
[17:33] <huggesanp> Didn't work
[17:33] <huggesanp> Device is busy
[17:34] <brenda> EastDallas, ok done...ready
[17:34] <LizardK|ng> i need some advise with GRUB, which isn't working.  would removing the current (windows) boot drive and making the ubuntu drive the boot drive and reinstalling GRUB have a better chance of working, or would installing GRUB2 be a better shot?
[17:34] <arghh2d2> Hi, does anybody know why my onboard sound is playing at ridiculously low levels even with alsamixer maxed out?
[17:34] <brenda> EastDallas, now what?
[17:34] <LjL> aman: oh if both *don't*! exist... i misread you as asking about if both *do* exist =)
[17:34] <Segaja> is that black screen the normal ubuntu 9.10 boot screen?
[17:34] <EastDallas> brenda: try changing to epson cx7800
[17:34] <aman> LjL, :P
[17:34] <guntbert> huggesanp: right - I forgot - with a reboot you should be fine (in this special case) - or did you edit your /etc/fstab ?
[17:35] <]sober]> arghh2d2, there's a couple different places where volume can be adjusted; it's also kinda a known thing that the eeepc line has little output (may not apply to your comp)
[17:35] <huggesanp> guntbert: I didn't edit my /etc/fstab
[17:35] <arghh2d2> ]sober]: ok, where else can i check besides alsamixer?
[17:36] <brenda> EastDallas, should I use a new PPD?
[17:36] <v1tal3> exit
[17:36] <guntbert> huggesanp: then a reboot will fix it - don't worry - its not urgent
[17:36] <huggesanp> Right
[17:36] <pcl0adl3tt3r> hey all
[17:36] <srdjan_> i have one problem after i upgrade mu ubuntu into 9.10. When i open .avi / .mpeg4 / .divx ..etc my picture is going to green and it is very bad quality
[17:36] <LizardK|ng> no one can help with GRUB?  swap drives or try GRUB2?
[17:36] <]sober]> arghh2d2, i'm a bad person to ask.  i think i found the answer just googling around
[17:36] <Machtin> okay guys.. why is my sound so f*cked up?
[17:37] <]sober]> arghh2d2, i had a similar problem you see
[17:37] <Machtin> i can listen to mp3s.. but they sound.. wrong.
[17:37] <pcl0adl3tt3r> I have Ubuntu 9.1 installed on an old IBM x40. It seems hulu is very choppy. Any suggestions? I am very new to ubuntu
[17:37] <Machtin> it scratches and stuff.
[17:37] <huggesanp> Can somebody confirm for me that if I have a partition mounted on / and /mnt, rebooting will ensure that the partition gets safely unmounted?
[17:37] <Machtin> and it REALLY is annoying.
[17:37] <srdjan_> can anyone help me to solve the problem with my graphic
[17:38] <ironmanerz> huggesanp: as long as you didnt edit your fstab, the mount is only temporary
[17:38] <LizardK|ng> huggesanp, yes, unless its in your fstab.  however, did you try sudo umount /mnt?
[17:38] <mMezquitale> !ask| srdjan_
[17:38] <brenda> EastDallas, Ok I did all that should I reboot now?
[17:38] <EastDallas> brenda: select printer from database
[17:38] <jelly-bean> I know ubuntu will auto mount stuff when I login at home using gdm into gnome, and then from the Places menu I click on the drive (e.g. a 320gb usb hdd in this case) then the drive appears mounted under the /media directory.  isn't there an equivalent command to do this from the cli (e.g. remotely over ssh?) so i can access those files?
[17:39] <EastDallas> brenda: no need to reboot...try and print a test page
[17:39] <LizardK|ng> jelly-bean, mount
[17:39] <jelly-bean> LizardK|ng: that requires me to know the device in /dev
[17:39] <jony_kalavera> hi
[17:39] <jelly-bean> sudo mount -a doesn't do it either
[17:39] <LlamaZorz> If I wanted to encrypt my swap and /tmp partitions, with a random new key everytime I boot, how can I go about doing that?
[17:39] <jony_kalavera> can lighthttpd be used as a transparent proxy?
[17:39] <mMezquitale> jelly-bean, im not following, do you have a hard drive permanently installed on your computer and you want to mount it remotely on another computer via ssh?
[17:40] <LizardK|ng> jelly-bean, you're right you need to know the devicename
[17:40] <jelly-bean> mMezquitale: the computer is at home and has a usb hdd connected to it, but not mounted yet. i am remoting into the machine from work using ssh, and i want access to that drive but need to mount it first.
[17:40] <jmp_> hugo, hi
[17:40] <brenda> EastDallas, ok the printer comes up in firefox print. I don't have any ink right now but what I really need to do is use the scanner. xsane still does not detect anything after changing the driver.
[17:40] <pcl0adl3tt3r> I am having very jumpy/choppy Hulu video. Not quite sure why only hulu..youtube seems fine. Any one able to assist?
[17:40] <huggesanp> LizardK|ng: I tried umount /mnt
[17:40] <jelly-bean> LizardK|ng: i am hoping ubuntu can figure it out and just mount all the drives that normally appear under the Places menu for me
[17:41] <huggesanp> Anyway thanks folks
[17:41] <huggesanp> I think I'll reboot
[17:41] <huggesanp> Bye
[17:41] <jmp_> jelly-bean, which FS do u have on this disk
[17:41] <arghh2d2> ]sober]: i didnt ask you specifically.  but thanks for trying...if you can think of those "other places" beside alsamixer to increase volume, let me know
[17:41] <mMezquitale> jelly-bean, yes, you do have to mount it, you can mount it via ssh, I suggest you add it to your fstab file so that it gets mounted automatically after every reboot though
[17:41] <seealso> Hello.
[17:41] <trism> pcl0adl3tt3r: did you enable hardware acceleration? they recently modified their player, and I had to enable it to get things to a reasonable speed
[17:41] <LizardK|ng> jelly-bean, mount -a mounts everything in fstab, and to put the drives in fstab you'd need to know the devicename
[17:41] <pcl0adl3tt3r> how do i do that
[17:41] <trism> pcl0adl3tt3r: right click on the video and go to properties, then enable acceleration
[17:41] <seealso> Since I set some configuration in nvidia-settings I cannot use the mouse.
[17:41] <jelly-bean> mMezquitale: i dont use it often enough for that :(
[17:41] <jelly-bean> what would a usb hdd device look like under /dev then? i dont see it as one of the sd[a-z][0-9] ?
[17:42] <hugo> hello please i am hugues et i news user for linux please estce que we give me help
[17:42] <eaglestar> hi can anyone tell me how to upgrade with a 9.10 cd from 9.04?
[17:42] <seealso> Can somebody help me?
[17:42] <eaglestar> can i use the basic cd or do i need the alternate?
[17:42] <burzki> eaglestar, why not use the mgr?
[17:42] <Kwpolska> eaglestar: alternate or do it from network
[17:42] <]sober]> arghh2d2, there's a "front" setting within the control that needs turned up?
[17:42] <jmp_> eaglestar, just use the cd , then proceed to the installation
[17:43] <mMezquitale> jelly-bean, you could write a script or a cheat note that tells you how to mount it, that way you can just login from ssh, execute your script or look at your cheat sheet, mount it then unmount it once youre done
[17:43] <pcl0adl3tt3r> trism: how do increase hardware acceleration?
[17:43] <arghh2d2> ]sober]: where is it?
[17:43] <jmp_>  eaglestar ,the basic is better
[17:43] <trism> pcl0adl3tt3r: there isn't really an increase, it is either on or off (checked or unchecked)
[17:43] <mMezquitale> !ask | hugo
[17:43] <]sober]> arghh2d2, that's what i'm digging for :)
[17:43] <pcl0adl3tt3r> where do i check that
[17:44] <seealso> Also; Which is the name some console web browser?
[17:44] <seealso> *Which are.
[17:44] <jmp_> eaglestar, then you will install like a new os, but you need to save all ur config files such as .bashrc, .vimrc in a pen drive
[17:44] <brenda> EastDallas, the printer seems to work but the scanner still does not.
[17:45] <]sober]> arghh2d2, you're using karmic yes?
[17:45] <jmp_> hugo, what is ur problem
[17:45] <eaglestar> i can't start the computer so am tring to fix it and save fles by upgrading i updated and now it doesnt run
[17:45] <EliasAmaral> how can i disable pulse audio?
[17:45] <ironmanerz> seealso: can you restore your xorg.conf?
[17:45] <trism> pcl0adl3tt3r: right click on the hulu video player, click on settings... and check the "enable hardware acceleration" box. If that doesn't work, not sure what else to try, the linux flash player is unfortunately slower than windows (it worked for me though)
[17:45] <jmp_> yes , upgrading from jaunty to koala is not quite good
[17:45] <jelly-bean> k i got the drive mounted under /media. my wife did it by clicking in Places tho for me. how can i tell which device is being used to mount a directory if i only have the path to the directory?
[17:45] <hugo> my english is not good because i speack french
[17:46] <arghh2d2> ]sober]: no, jaunty
[17:46] <pcl0adl3tt3r> trism: i tried that, it is enabled
[17:46] <pcl0adl3tt3r> guess im out of luck
[17:46] <EliasAmaral> jelly-bean, right click it and go to properties. or type mount in terminal
[17:46] <seealso> ironmanerz: By doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I am unable to use the mouse too.
[17:46] <ctmjr> !fr | hugo
[17:46] <EliasAmaral> jelly-bean, (mount will show all mounted devices)
[17:47] <jmp_> jelly-bean, you can use gnome-mount
[17:47] <hugo> et comment m'y rendre je suis nouveau j'ai  fais l'installation hier et je connais pas grande chose
[17:47] <ubuntutrepxe> jelly-bean: sudo blkid
[17:48] <LjL> hugo: ecrive /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:48] <EliasAmaral> hugo, even if you english is poor (mine is not very good either), it is encouraged that you speak english here
[17:48] <burzki> hugo, /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:48] <jelly-bean> ubuntutrepxe: /dev/sdc2 got it thnx
[17:49] <]sober]> arghh2d2, couple questions:  using nvidia v-card?  what sound card (onboard ac97?)
[17:49] <burzki> LjL, ecrive ? ="type" ?
[17:49] <jelly-bean> jmp_: what does gnome-mount do?
[17:49] <ubuntutrepxe> jelly-bean: no problem :)
[17:49] <seealso> How can I quit a channel with Irssi?
[17:49] <jmp_> jelly-bean, just mount drive
[17:49] <ironmanerz> seealso: what does it show under the xorg.conf mouse section?
[17:49] <LjL> burzki: "write"
[17:49] <EastDallas> brenda: what error do you get when you try to scan?
[17:50] <jelly-bean> jmp_: k ill try it next time. thnx all
[17:50] <LjL> burzki: but if it's anything like italian, it also covers the english usage of "type"
[17:50] <burzki> LjL, i learned some french ;-)
[17:50] <nickkontos> hello, here's a challenge: how can i copy my ubuntu system in a new drive?
[17:50] <brenda> EastDallas, When I launch xsane it says no devices detected.
[17:50] <seealso> itonmanerz: Wait, I will tell you, I am in console mode.
[17:50] <EastDallas> brenda: btw..I'm getting ready to leave, so I'll only be able towork on this for a few more minutes
[17:50] <brenda> ok
[17:50] <nohup> good afternoon all
[17:51] <hugo> i like english and i apprend the english
[17:51] <seealso> I will go to GUI mode and come back again.
[17:51] <hugo> please help me
[17:51] <nohup> does anybody know an ubuntu package for a network analyser (that supports multiple interfaces) like ntop.. but one that doesn't depend on x11? (why on earth does it depend on that anyways?)
[17:51] <jmp_> hugo , connecte toi sur #ubuntu-fr
[17:51] <ubuntutrepxe> nohup: iftop
[17:51] <EliasAmaral> hugo, this channel is for those that have english as a second language too
[17:52] <EliasAmaral> in fact i usually talk in #ubuntu-br but sometimes it's dead :( 30x less people than here
[17:52] <burzki> nickkontos, been working on that too.  havent tried it, but chack http://clonezilla.org/
[17:52] <nohup> ubuntutrepxe: does that one serve stats over http ?
[17:52] <EliasAmaral> in fact this reminds me my question: there is any way of getting rid of pulseaudio?
[17:52] <ubuntutrepxe> nohup: it shows you all connections on a specified interface
[17:53] <EliasAmaral> i just can't kill it, but i heard there is a way
[17:53] <ctmjr> hugo: if you speak english just state your problem and if someone knows the answer they will help you
[17:53] <nohup> ubuntutrepxe: i see... but i'm looking for something with stats served over http, like ntop can...
[17:53] <nohup> but it's a server with minimal disk space, so i can't go and install x11 on it :)
[17:53] <EliasAmaral> it is maybe the largest breakage of ubuntu history, if you folks let me add, :(
[17:54] <jmp_> hugo, t'es là
[17:54] <Salva1> Hello.
[17:54] <Salva1> I was see also.
[17:54] <Salva1> Seealso.
[17:55] <LlamaZorz> With a fresh Ubuntu Install, what are the two extra extended partitions for
[17:55] <LlamaZorz> /dev/sda1   *           1        1824    14651248+  83  Linux
[17:55] <LlamaZorz> /dev/sda2            8666        9039     3004155    5  Extended
[17:55] <LlamaZorz> /dev/sda3            1825        8665    54950332+  83  Linux
[17:55] <LlamaZorz> /dev/sda5            8666        9039     3004123+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[17:55] <FloodBot4> LlamaZorz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <]sober]> ok
[17:55] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am having problems with Cdrom in Ubuntu 9.04, if i click on the cd-rom0 icon under Places i get this error message http://pastebin.com/mbc01f7b i have tried to mount it manually but i got this error ( block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only). Any tips?
[17:55] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, extended is a container partition
[17:55] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, it contains other partitions (that are called logical)
[17:56] <LlamaZorz> But what is it for?
[17:56] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, swap is a extension of ram (very useful, windows does this usually by a paging file)
[17:56] <genii> matteo1990: Thats not an error. It can only mount read-only media in read-only
[17:56] <EastDallas> brenda: I wasn't able to find anything that I thought might be helpful.  Other than this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/314364.  If no one else here can be of help, you might want to post your problem at ubuntuforums.org.  sorry :(
[17:56] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, it justs sums up all your logical partitions (that begin in /dev/sda5 and goes to /dev/sdaXX)
[17:56] <Hilikus> hey guys. ubuntu server is offering to create an LVM partition, is this standard also for ubuntu desktop?
[17:56] <eaglestar> anyone near dc can tell me which mirror is fastest i am on windows computer
[17:56] <Hilikus> this is during installation of course
[17:57] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, the standard layout of partitions puts a constraint of 4 partitions per hd. you can have up to 256 logical partitions inside a extended one
[17:57] <piotras8> siema
[17:57] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, partitions outside the extended partition are called physical
[17:57] <EastDallas> eaglestar: download via torrent
[17:57] <LlamaZorz> Ok, But I only have 3 physical partitions
[17:57] <piotras8> jest ktos z polski?
[17:57] <arand> LlamaZorz: and also when you hibernate the system, all the memory get put in swap in a "frozen state"...
[17:57] <zanberdo> ubuntu 8.04 server - I have created my own grub splash image which loads just fine. However, no matter what changes I make to the COLOR setting in menu.lst the colors are never applied. Is this a know issue and if so is there a work around?
[17:58] <OerHeks> Hilikus LVM is nice, EXT3 is nicer and EXT4 is available too
[17:58] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, you could reorder your partitions but it would save you no data
[17:58] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, no space i mean
[17:59] <LlamaZorz> sda1 is my root, sda3 is my home and sda5 is my swap, I just dont get what the sda2 does/
[17:59] <zanberdo> Hilikus, LVM is not a filesystem per se', but a partition manager
[17:59] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am having problems with Cdrom in Ubuntu 9.04, if i click on the cd-rom0 icon under Places i get this error message http://pastebin.com/mbc01f7b i have tried to mount it manually but i got this error ( block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only). Any tips?
[17:59] <Hilikus> my question is, if i go with LVM and inside it say i create 2 ext4 partitions, one for / and one for /home, and by accident i remove the first one, what would happend with /home, since the "outter" partition is LVM and i just removed a chunk of it
[17:59] <vladinho> hello everyone ;) i've got a question (problem actually) ... I want to run an app. on Wine in ubuntu karmic, but it shows up an error saying "Due to securty reasons...blabla...turn off system debuggers.." ... does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:00] <PineappleClock> does the remote desktop feature in 9.10 just not work, I havent been able to get it to work at all
[18:00] <LizardK|ng> i can't install GRUB2, apt-get tells me "E: package grub2 has no installation candidate"
[18:00] <cap> How do we tell what video driver is in use when xorg.conf does not exist?
[18:00] <aman> LjL, is syslogd daemon manages most of the system logs on the machine??????
[18:00] <ironmanerz> has anyone ever setup an ubuntu dns server w/ dhcp to share (by forwarding dns) an alltel cell dial up internet connection from a windows machine?
[18:00] <LjL> aman: yes
[18:00] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, it is a set of partitions that contains just one, /dev/sda5
[18:00] <zeitlos> whats a proper cdda ripper like eac?
[18:00] <zanberdo> Hilikus, nothing. you would have removed the root partition, which of course will make the system unbootable, but the home partition would remain. It will of course depend on LVM remaining in tact
[18:00] <Hilikus> ZeiP: cdparanoia
[18:01] <aman> LjL, wat about anacron and kerneld??
[18:01] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz,  that's because you actually have just 3 partitions: sda1, sda2, sda3. sda5 (and, if you add sda6, sda7, sda8...) is/are inside sda2
[18:01] <arand> LlamaZorz: I am not completely sure either, but I know that ubuntu does like to create extended partitions to put the swap partition in, In some cases it might be convenient becasue of the 4-primary limit, but sometimes it just does, in practice I don't think it does much difference..
[18:01] <LjL> aman: what about them?
[18:01] <LlamaZorz> So you are saying that sda5 is a logical partition, and since I was about to make the 4th partitions sda5, the installer said its a better idea to made sda2 as a extended to hold extra logicals in the future?
[18:01] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, don't worry about this, your partition table is just fine. (i would worry about the sda3 coming before sda2, but maybe because i am too perfectionist)
[18:01] <joshjtl> hey folks updating apt, and am getting some repos not found, but those listed as not found are not in sources.list, where else would they be? I think I may have added some incorrect ones with add-apt-repository...
[18:02] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, yes, i think so
[18:02] <LjL> joshjtl: they'd be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:02] <OerHeks> Hilikus your '/home' partition will remain, and can be re-mounted in a new installation
[18:02] <vladinho> hello everyone ;) i've got a question (problem actually) ... I want to run an app. on Wine in ubuntu karmic, but it shows up an error saying "Due to securty reasons...blabla...turn off system debuggers.." ... does anyone know how to fix this???? please i tried alot of forums with no luck :(
[18:02] <aman> LjL, i mean i want to ask they are less in use than syslogd??
[18:02] <zanberdo> Hilikus, technically, if you have a boot part that is not wrapped in lvm then the system wouldn't strictly speaking be unbootable, but unusable as you wouldn't have a mounted root part, but that's a triviality and I think you question has more to do with how deleting one partition effects another.
[18:02] <Hilikus> zanberdo: how will it remain intact? i actually had that problem (or similar) i had a partition that extended two physical areas and from windows i formatted one of the two into NTFS (so LVM was screwed now) and AFAIK the LVM metadata was lost so all the data was lost, even in the untouched part
[18:02] <joshjtl> LjL: so i just need to look through all of those?
[18:03] <LjL> aman: anacron is not for storing logs, and i don't know what kerneld is
[18:03] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, if you worry about tables you might want to save this output on a file on a pen drive or similar, in the case of it being damaged
[18:03] <vladinho> this is the actual error msg: For security purposes, this program will not run while system debuggers are active. Please remove or disable the system debugger before trying to run this program again.
[18:03] <vladinho> anyone? ;)
[18:03] <zanberdo> Hilikus, if I understand your situation correctly: LVM remains intact but you've deleted a specific partition within the LVM container, yes? So, with LVM remaining intact the other partition (/home in your example) should remain unhindered
[18:03] <sburwood> Just purchased a usb slide scanner. Brand = Zolid. Model 50643. It isn't recognized by 9.10.  I need to do what to make it function?
[18:03] <LlamaZorz> Im in the process of learning how to encrypt file-systems, and was just interested in what it was,
[18:03] <grawity> vladinho: Maybe it thinks Wine is a debugger?
[18:03] <phil> hey guys, I'm having some problems with usb bus resets in jaunty - did anybody else experience such problems? my usb disk are going to sleep and about every 30 minutes an usb bus reset wakes them up.
[18:03] <aman> LjL, oh ok  no problem i m googling too and will let you know if got any answer....:)
[18:03] <grawity> vladinho: What program is that?
[18:03] <Hilikus> zanberdo: actually no, i think LVM was not intact, only a PART of it was intact
[18:03] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, and maybe a metadata image of the filesystem if it get on a state that fsck wouldn't recover (but then you might want to make weekly or monthly images)
[18:04] <vladinho> grawity: i don't know..i'm kinda noob with wine and linux
[18:04] <vladinho> grawity: 2 programs actually...gives me the same error
[18:04] <lvzlife> Hi
[18:04] <vladinho> grawity: a very simple win game
[18:04] <lvzlife> anyone chat with me
[18:04] <mMezquitale> LlamaZorz, encrypting basically makes your data look like random data unless it is unencrypted using whatever password you desire
[18:04] <Hilikus> so that's my concern, in LVM it seams because its all "virtual", if you destroy a part of it, it even destroys the untouched part of it indirectly, is this not right?
[18:05] <vladinho> grawity: and a dictionary
[18:05] <sburwood> I was invited to go to unisupport.net but it is in Dutch and tells me it only works on Windows
[18:05] <srdjan> please give the commant to login as root
[18:05] <cap> lvzlife: Sure, (we all are).
[18:05] <sburwood> sudo
[18:05] <zanberdo> Hilikus, lvm creates physical volumes that then permit the creation of logical volumes that then permit you to partition the logical volumes however you choose. if you did not touch the physical or logical volumes and only removed a partition created within a logical volume, then LVM should not be effected, just the partition in question.
[18:05] <grawity> srdjan: For a single command, use "sudo <command>"
[18:05] <vladinho> grawity: any idea? ;)
[18:06] <cap> How does one discover which video driver is in use?
[18:06] <sburwood> anyone wanna help me with my slide scanner?
[18:06] <grawity> srdjan: For a root shell, read the manpage of 'sudo'.
[18:06] <cap> sburwood: We'll try...
[18:06] <PineappleClock> in order to disable compiz on 9.10, what do you have to do? There's three settings in "Appearance" none, medium and high. Is None the only one that turns it off?
[18:06] <zanberdo> Hilikus, for instance, I use LVM to create two physical volumes for my netbook: a 4GB PV and a 16 GB PV which I then created a single LV of 20GB which I further partitions (and encrypted) for my file system. if I were to delete say sda5 (as an example), LVM would be unaffected, just the partition I removed.
[18:07] <cap> sburwood: Here's how it works.  You ask questions, someone who knows will try and answer.
[18:07] <mMezquitale> sburwood, have you tried scanning using applications in ubuntu?
[18:07] <Hilikus> zanberdo: well, i guess i did touch the physical volume, windows doesn't know about lvm so i guess it formatted the PHYSICAL volume. i had 2 physical volumes that i made into 1 logical volume. but for argument's sake assume each physical volume was a logical volume. if the first PHYSICAL volume is destroyed, will the second one die too? i thought so because the metadata is lost as well
[18:07] <zanberdo> Hilikus, I missed a step, I created another PV out of the two PV's, which allowed for a single PV to create the LV from ... but that's a triffle
[18:07] <sburwood> My wife and I have slides that we want to digitalize the slides and put them on a cd. It isn't recognized
[18:08] <cap> sburwood: What isn't recognized?
[18:08] <phil> hey guys, I'm having some problems with usb bus resets in jaunty - did anybody else experience such problems? my usb disk are going to sleep and about every 30 minutes an usb bus reset wakes them up.
[18:08] <sburwood> mMezquiltale I used xsane, but it doesn't find the scanner
[18:08] <cap> sburwood: What is the make and model of your scanner?
[18:08] <zanberdo> Hilikus, your mixing windows into the equation takes me out of my depth. But based on your description if you mangled a PV it's dependent LV will be disrupted.
[18:08] <mMezquitale> sburwood, have you tried scanning using applications in ubuntu?  My HP scanner worked without a problem and I didnt know how to scan, all I had to do was hook it up and install an application, the application found the application just fine
[18:08] <matteo1990> Hi all, i am having problems with Cdrom in Ubuntu 9.04, if i click on the cd-rom0 icon under Places i get this error message http://pastebin.com/mbc01f7b i have tried to mount it manually but i got this error ( block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only). Any tips?
[18:09] <sburwood> cap One the box, it says Zolid
[18:09] <sburwood> mM, I used xsane
[18:09] <laclasse> matteo1990, read only is not an error, only a message
[18:09] <LlamaZorz> EliasAmaral, mMezquitale, I understand what the encryption does, I just wanted to know if temp files were stored in /dev/sda2, the extended partition of my drive.
[18:09] <Segaja> hm, no answer is an answer...
[18:09] <sburwood> I hooked it in the USB port and the light is on
[18:09] <mMezquitale> sburwood, type the first couple of letters, then hit tab otherwise your message might not be read
[18:09] <Hilikus> zanberdo: yea, what you're saynig is removing sda5 the right way, using LVM tools. what i'm talking about is an accident, like windows formatting it, or a part of the disk just dieing. i just want to know how independent are the individual logical volumes
[18:09] <mMezquitale> !who
[18:10] <cap> sburwood: Let's look:  http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
[18:10] <sburwood> mMezquitale: oh, I didn't see that
[18:10] <zanberdo> Hilikus, yeah, I think if your PV's are whacked you can bet the associated LV's are also whacked.
[18:10] <Segaja> hi, on older ubuntu version the startup splash screen had a progress bar, which showed how far the boot was. on ubuntu 9.10 i only see a black screen with a white ubuntu logo on it and the console box with the messages
[18:10] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, the ones from /tmp ? by default they will be stored in / without encryption (i may be mistaken)
[18:10] <Segaja> is that black screen the normal ubuntu 9.10 boot screen?
[18:10] <laclasse> matteo1990, no priv messages please, in the channel
[18:10] <froes_> hi i have just made a fresh install of ubuntu jaunty and upgraded to karmic. i cant seem to find fsck.ntfs, what should i do ?????
[18:10] <burzki> cap, lspci -v should detail all that out - video drivers
[18:11] <zanberdo> Hilikus, I'm curious how windows got into the mix. Did you attempt to install windows after you'd already installed linux?
[18:11] <matteo1990> >laclasse mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:11] <matteo1990> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[18:11] <LlamaZorz> EliasAmaral, well from /tmp and was the virtual address space in the swap.
[18:11] <cap> sburwood: Does lsusb tell you anything.
[18:11] <mMezquitale> sburwood, there's a chance your scanner is not supported by the software, if you want to find out if ubuntu can recognize your scanner post the results to pastebin using "lspci -v" in a terminal
[18:11] <nerdy_kid_> hi all, ive tried emailing with mail -s, but the messages get stuck in gmails spam folder.  Anyway to change the from email address to something other then my pc name so maybe this will get fixed?
[18:11] <laclasse> matteo1990, thats is fine, not an error.
[18:11] <EliasAmaral> LlamaZorz, /tmp is a ram disk when you install ubuntu?
[18:12] <matteo1990> Ok, i have understand that this is not an error message but i can't open my cd XD
[18:12] <vladinho> hello everyone ;) i've got a question (problem actually) ... I want to run an app. on Wine in ubuntu karmic, but it shows up an error saying "Due to securty reasons...blabla...turn off system debuggers.." ... does anyone know how to fix this???? please i tried alot of forums with no luck :(
[18:12] <vladinho> this is the actual error msg: For security purposes, this program will not run while system debuggers are active. Please remove or disable the system debugger before trying to run this program again.
[18:12] <vladinho> anyone? =)
[18:12] <laclasse> matteo1990, all cdroms  (apart cd+rw / dvd+rw ) are 'read only'
[18:12] <kjele> vladinho: What program?
[18:12] <Pici> vladinho: The best place to ask for application issues under wine is in #winehq, you should also check out the !appdb
[18:13] <laclasse> matteo1990, how was the cdrom orginally burn? which OS? What is on it?
[18:13] <vladinho> Pici: tnx...didn't know that
[18:13] <LlamaZorz> <EliasAmaral, not everything writes to /tmp, sometimes sensitive information is written to the swap via the vas.
[18:13] <vladinho> kjele: a simple game for WIN and a dictionary for WIN too...
[18:13] <EliasAmaral> Hmm :)
[18:13] <Hilikus> zanberdo: partially my fault, but windows also screwed up. i bought a new hdd that had no partition table so i didn't know how to create a PT from linux so i say i'll do it from windows by just telling it to format the drive. i remembered the unit appears there and when you access it it detects it's not formatted and offers to do it. so i did that but the unit that appeared in windows was not from the new drive but my LVM partition. so windows sug
[18:13] <Hilikus> gested to format it when it should have jsut detected that it was being used for something else and leave it untouched
[18:14] <nbaca> hello everybody... how do I mess with the default gdm settings when nobody is logged in? I would like my laptop to not hibernate when I close the lid at the login screen
[18:14] <zeitlos> ok got it installed
[18:14] <cap> burzki: Thank you.
[18:14] <kjele> vladinho: What is the game name?
[18:15] <matteo1990> !tab matteo prova
[18:15] <laclasse> matteo1990, you want to make sure that when your burn a CD yourself, you do not forget to 'finalize' it, or it will not be mountable. Is this a burn cd or an original / factory pressed one?
[18:15] <burzki> cap, find what you were looking for?
[18:15] <aman> LjL, if suppose permissions of directory is like "drw-r--r-- shirley graphics". And i create a file under this directory then can u tell me the owner and groupname of that file????
[18:15] <marco> what's beyond light-speed bothing of 10.04 ?
[18:15] <zeitlos> any recommend interface like eac?
[18:15] <matteo1990> now it seems to work! :)
[18:15] <Pici> !lucid | marco
[18:15] <matteo1990> it was a problem with the cd
[18:15] <laclasse> matteo1990, glad to hear. enjoy
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> nbaca:  its possible those settings may be controlled by settings in the 'gdm' users home  - at least some settings are tweakable by running th eproper config tools as the gdm user
[18:16] <sburwood> what is the exact site for pastebin?
[18:16] <matteo1990> how to answer to you like you do with me? (i mean with the yellow name on the left)
[18:16] <LjL> aman: the owner will be shirley, since that's the only one allowed to write to the directory, but the group could be anything (probably shirley again)
[18:16] <sburwood> mMezquitale: what is the pastebin site?
[18:16] <cap> sburwood: to share information
[18:16] <Hilikus> zanberdo: basically, windows thought it was unassigned space when in reality it was an LVM type partition
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> matteo1990:  we dont.. Your irc client highlights lines with your nick in them
[18:16] <sburwood> cap I know that
[18:16] <lvzlife> Hello
[18:16] <cap> sburwood: There are several.
[18:16] <nbaca> Dr_Willis: I tried running gconf-editor as gdm but there were no settings available... tried as root too but no change
[18:17] <aman> LjL, wat if permission are "rwxr-sr-x"
[18:17] <cap> sburwood: It is easiest to use pastebinit
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> nbaca:  it wouldent be as root. it would be as gdm.  Other then that. Not sure how else to tweak them.
[18:17] <null_x86> hey anyone know how to get aircrack-ng to work with iwi4965?
[18:17] <sburwood> give me one where I could post the lsusb and lspci -v
[18:17] <mMezquitale> !paste | sburwood
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> sburwood:  install/use the pastebinit command is the easiest way
[18:18] <cap> burzki: Yes, using agpgart-intel
[18:18] <LjL> aman: then the group would be "graphics"
[18:18] <Hydrosis> After Karmic install, FireFox opens .cbz files with Document Viewer instead of Comix the comic book viewer.  How do I fix that?
[18:18] <null_x86> hydrosis: open preferences, and change the .cbz to the appropiate application
[18:18] <aman> LjL, actually i m confused with that 's' in the permissions. Is it a sticky bit?
[18:19] <Segaja> Hydrosis: in the firefox preferences att the application tab
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Hydrosis:  perhaps set the 'openwith' setting for .cbz to defailt to comix, or set it where it only opens with comix
[18:19] <sburwood> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d269df270
[18:19] <LjL> aman: no, setgid
[18:19] <LjL> aman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setgid_on_directories
[18:19] <burzki> matteo1990, type the first couple letters of the name, 'tab' should finish it
[18:19] <burzki> !tab
[18:19] <null_x86> does anyone know how to get aircrack-ng working with Intel 4965AGN?
[18:19] <sburwood> cap: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d269df270
[18:19] <jester-> tab
[18:19] <sburwood> mMezquitale: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d269df270
[18:19] <burzki> cap, great
[18:20] <Hydrosis> The open with default on my machine is set to Comix, and it works when clicking on the file from my comics colder.  But when i click on the file once it's downlaoded from the Download managaer in FireFox it uses Document Viewer'
[18:20] <sburwood> it seems to see my slide scanner
[18:20] <zeitlos> im looking for a interface like eac for cdparanoia3
[18:20] <zanberdo> Hilikus, ah, yes, well I see the problem and yes, if windows ended up reformatting any part of the lvm partition I'd guess all bets are off. You might try booting to a live CD and using the lvm tools to see if you can even see the pv's or lv's.
[18:20] <null_x86> Hydrosis: then you need to set it to open by default in Ubuntu's preferences or the apps preferences
[18:20] <Hydrosis> OK, I got it.  Thanks.
[18:21]  * null_x86 needs help!!!!
[18:21]  * zeitlos too
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> null_x86:  you may want to check the aircrack homepage/faq/foruimns for what chipset it supports
[18:21] <null_x86> ok
[18:21] <zanberdo> Hilikus, If you can see the lv which contains your home part then maybe you can recover it.
[18:21] <sburwood> mMezquitale: do you understand what the problem is?
[18:22] <zanberdo> one more try in case someone new knows: running ubuntu 8.04 server - I have created my own grub splash image which loads just fine. However, no matter what changes I make to the COLOR setting in menu.lst the colors are never applied. Is this a know issue and if so is there a work around?
[18:22] <nerdy_kid_> how do i change the from property of an email sent with linux mail?
[18:22] <null_x86> Dr_Willis: i know it supports the 3945abg and it works with my 4965agn, but i cant get anything when i try to get a key
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> null_x86:  ive no idea on aircrack.
[18:23] <null_x86> anyone have any ideas on aircrack??
[18:23] <aman> LjL, i have 4 options  the g of shirley, the o of shirley, the g of graphics, the o of graphics??? which of these applies to that ??
[18:23] <sburwood> cap: did you see the information on my slide scanner?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> null_x86:  with some of these tools it may be therew been some bug fix's in newer verions that are not in the repos.
[18:24] <wokka> just installed karmic.  Network app is giving me some problems.  When I log in, it says it's acquiring address for auto eth0, but then fails to connect.  if I immediately click on it and select "auto eth0" it connects.  What's up with that?
[18:24] <eaglestar> can i upgrade form a live cd or shpuld i use an alternate?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> null_x86:  thats why i suggest the aircrack homepage/forums
[18:24] <srdjan> i need gnome-terminal tutorial and all comands i am just a beginer
[18:24] <null_x86> Dr_Willis: thats where im checking
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> srdjan:  technially its 'shell commands'  gnome-terminal is just a terminal. :)
[18:24] <guntbert> zanberdo: sorry, no help from me - but a question out of curiosity: why on earth do you care about the appearance of the grub menu on a *server* ?
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> !bash | srdjan
[18:25] <jaysern> if i used apt-get to install mysql, what is my  MYSQL_HOME ?
[18:25] <mMezquitale> sburwood, I dont believe the scanner is supported.  Dr_Willis do you believe a scanner is configured in this system?  It gets picked up by lsusb but I'm not sure about lspci -v: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d269df270
[18:25] <guntbert> !upgrade | eaglestar use network or alternate
[18:25] <nerdy_kid_> how do i change the from property of an email sent with linux mail?
[18:25] <aman> LjL, any ideas?
[18:26] <eaglestar> ok cool
[18:26] <sburwood> Dr_Willis: mMezquitale seems to thing that you could help me
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> sburwood:  if its quick. Its almost my bedtime.
[18:26] <mMezquitale> sburwood, you can also try following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/printing/C/scanning.html
[18:27] <eaglestar> after an update i can't start 9.04 due to mountall failure you think upgrading using the command line at boot woul fix this and do you know any instrucitions?
[18:27] <zanberdo> guntbert, very good question. I have created a branded splash image that our customers will see when the system reboots. It's not critical but it's a 'nice-to-have' feature. The problem is that the background color of the image is white and having white text (thankfully with black shadow or you'd see nothing at all) doesn't show up very well
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> mMezquitale:  the 'sane' homepage may have some info on specific scanners. Every scanner ive had was supported.
[18:27] <sburwood> Dr_Willis: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d269df270
[18:27] <srdjan> ok dr_willis but i use ubuntu only 3 days and i am very cofused about everything ... but i will continue with ubuntu .... Can onyone send me tutorial's tips etc
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> srdjan:  theres 1000's of sites with ubuntu tutorials and tips and training/beginner guides
[18:27] <guntbert> zanberdo: excellent reason :) - thx for sharing it
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> !training | srdjan
[18:28] <wokka> the network connections also lists "auto eth0" as last used "never" which is also odd
[18:28] <sburwood> mMezquitale: is that the same for 9.10? In the address, I saw 8.04
[18:28] <null_x86> hey whats the shell command for finding out my kernel version?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> srdjan:  its a matter of reading about what interests you the most
[18:28] <wokka> Considering as I'm using it right now
[18:28] <monra> Hello. I deleted some ruby lib files(from /usr/lib/ruby) and now I cannot run the rails program. I tried removing ruby and rails and installing them again but still doesn't work. Any ideas what can I do?
[18:28] <null_x86> Dr_Willis: shell command for viewing kernel version?
[18:28] <guntbert> null_x86: uname -a will show you a lot
[18:29] <null_x86> ty guntbert
[18:29] <nerdy_kid_> null_x86 uname -a
[18:29] <zeitlos> anyone down with "eac" on linux?
[18:29] <null_x86> got it already
[18:30] <mMezquitale> sburwood, I'm not sure, like I mentioned before I didnt have an issue when I used my scanner, only used it once, was intimidated at first but once I tried it I had no issue, just install the application, click on scan and it worked
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> sburwood:  the extent of my scanner ussage under linux is Plug it in.. run xsane.. it works.. :)
[18:30] <aman> LjL, u there?
[18:30] <srdjan> ok all day long i try to install driver pakage NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.53-pkg2 but i dont know how to run as root and the command to find where the pakage is i do not know :((((
[18:30] <ano> hi guys i have ubuntu as os , but the sound doesnt work on it , i have a hp pavilion a6167.fr desktop
[18:30] <ano> any help plz ?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> null_x86:  uname -a  normally
[18:31] <LjL> aman: why don't you just try and see? i may get it wrong easily
[18:31] <Drknzz> Hi guys! Cn anyone tell me how to scan for WiFi networks from command-line?
[18:31] <sAnta89_> Drknzz, iwlist scan
[18:31] <sAnta89_> Drknzz, I think, not sure
[18:31] <srdjan> i press ''ctrl + alt + f1'' and after that i dont know the commands
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> srdjan:  you DID try the nvidia drivers included in the ubuntu repositories first?
[18:31] <wokka> Any ideas?  I've been sifting through network manager related bugs on launchpad, but GOD is that tedious.
[18:31] <aman> LjL, my machine's is showing same owner and group
[18:31] <Drknzz> sAnta89_: TY, ill try that
[18:32] <adalal> Drknzz: yeah, jus use 'sudo iwconfig <wlan interface name> scanning'
[18:33] <Drknzz> sAnta89_ adalal TY guys, it worked, no wifi networks detected tho :/
[18:33] <adalal> Drknzz: sorry, try 'sudo iwlist <interface> scanning'
[18:33] <Hilikus> does ubuntu SERVER 9.10 also use grub2 by default?
[18:33] <nerdy_kid_> *sigh* no one use commandline emailers anymore lol
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  i belive it does
[18:33] <Drknzz> adalal: ok
[18:33] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: thanks
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  im not 100% sure.. but ive never heard of it being different in that area
[18:34] <Drknzz> adalal: Ty, it worked but no networks here, ;)
[18:34] <Linux4Family> hello
[18:34] <Linux4Family> are there any body to help me
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> !ask | Linux4Family
[18:35] <Linux4Family> I installed the modem, but after I installed a strange sound comes from speakers, so what is this problem resolved
[18:35] <wokka> One more shot: anyone heard of the network manager applet not connecting automatically at login? only thing set up I have is eth0. It spins and fails, but if I go to click on it and then click "auto eth0" it connects.
[18:35] <mike20_> jejeje hola
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> wokka:  this is a wired or wireless network?
[18:35] <wokka> Dr_Willis, wired
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> wokka:  that is weird.
[18:35] <nerdy_kid_> Linux4Family you installed a modem?  drivers used, and modem type please
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> wokka:  my wired is connected even befor I login.
[18:36] <Linux4Family> hsf modem
[18:36] <wokka> Dr_Willis, yep.  The first time I log in, it is actually sort of frozen on the spinning graphic.  Then the notify bubble kindly informs me that I'm not connected.
[18:36] <mMezquitale> wokka, that happens on my laptop all the time, wired I have to take eth0 down then bring it up, wireless I have to manually click on the correct network
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> wokka:  i wonder if a ifdown/ifup command in the rc.local may kick it in the head.
[18:36] <Linux4Family> Conexant
[18:37] <BasiumDeJudas> msg NickServ identify hollertz
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> BasiumDeJudas:  time to change passwords
[18:37] <Pici> BasiumDeJudas: Please change your password.
[18:37] <wokka> Dr_Willis, that's a notion.  Given that this is a work machine and will never be on anything other than eth0, it might behoove me to connect it manually
[18:37] <eaglestar> how do i do an upgrade if i can not logon to installed system?
[18:37] <BasiumDeJudas> yep
[18:37] <BasiumDeJudas> crap
[18:37] <mMezquitale> rofl so it's hollertz?
[18:37] <wokka> mMezquitale, ugh, that's annoying
[18:37] <nerdy_kid_> LInux4Family yup. did the same thing once. VERY bad experence.  id uninstall the drivers.  I gtg post on ubuntuforums and ill help
[18:37] <BasiumDeJudas> i forgot how
[18:37] <savix> hi guys, i have installed ubuntu 9.10, but i have problem with grub, my windows xp is intalled on my E drive , and i cannot find it in grub menu
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> eaglestar:  Hmm.. how are you going to login after its upgraded then?
[18:37] <sAnta89_> BasiumDeJudas, yet another example why you should identify in the server window (:
[18:38] <maco> BasiumDeJudas: /msg nickserv set password <blah>
[18:38] <savix> i searched but couldnt find menu.lst
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> savix:  grub2 is used in 9.10  - in theory rerun update-grub as root and it SHOULD see/add windows to the list
[18:38] <Linux4Family> what
[18:38] <coolcat> which of the packages listed by "apt-cache search eclipse" should I install to program in c++
[18:38] <mMezquitale> wokka, i got used to it though, plus I leave the terminal open just in case, it comes really handy, plus I already have a link to a terminal on my taskbar so it's all good, i type faster than I click
[18:38] <coolcat> ?
[18:38] <LizardK|ng> HOORAY! i got GRUB to boot (manually)
[18:38] <savix> i think my ubuntu is using grub2, how can i change  configuration to boot up with windows , my windows is on /dev/sda5
[18:38] <wokka> Dr_Willis, I DO have a bluetooth dongle, could it be checking that somehow?  I certainly don't have any other networking connections set up.
[18:38] <mMezquitale> savix, use sudo grub_update
[18:38] <eaglestar> Dr_Willis: that is my xustion i can not mount the system but wanted to use the cd as a backdoor to load it
[18:38] <savix> i did , rerun update-grub
[18:39] <BasiumDeJudas> thanks mate
[18:39] <BasiumDeJudas> changed
[18:39] <savix> but no windows has been found
[18:39] <EricJ> Soo.. Last dist-upgrade I did on Karmic found the syslog saying "bluetoothd[2484]: Parsing /etc/bluetooth/serial.conf failed: No such file or directory". Anyone got a good idea of what should be in that file?
[18:39] <savix> :(
[18:39] <BasiumDeJudas> that is the second time i have done that,
[18:39] <wokka> Ugh.  gonna have to sift through launchpad and maybe submit a bug.  Thanks all
[18:40] <mMezquitale> savix, what about sudo grub-probe and then sudo grub-update?
[18:41] <EricJ> ..Or can otherwise clue me in on what do to? :)
[18:41] <savix> even i have added this fine on /etc/grub.d/20_windows_xp
[18:41] <savix> with content of cat << EOF
[18:41] <savix> menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Professional" {
[18:41] <savix> set root=(hd0,6)
[18:41] <savix> chainloader +1
[18:41] <savix> }
[18:41] <FloodBot2> savix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <savix> EOF
[18:41] <savix> sorry
[18:41] <mMezquitale> savix, your next option is to create a manual entry in 40_custom,  in /etc/grub.d/
[18:42] <savix> i did that , but still didnt go to windows, when i select to windows in grub menu, it gives me an error "invalid signature"
[18:42] <LizardK|ng> grub is pissing me off; i had to remove my windows disk to get anywhere
[18:42] <mMezquitale> savix, partitions in grub2 starts with one, so (hd0,0) could be (hd0,1), in your case try (hd0, 7)
[18:43] <LizardK|ng> i don't know if i'll ever be able to boot that windows disk again
[18:43] <savix> ok , i will try that , be right back
[18:43] <mMezquitale> LizardK|ng, are you using grub or grub2?
[18:43] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, grub2 now
[18:44] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, i spent about 6 hours yesterday trying to get grub legacy working
[18:44] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, and they guys in #grub don't do legacy anymore
[18:45] <mMezquitale> LizardK|ng, grub legacy is now unsupported at least you didnt have to work with the bugs in grub2
[18:45] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, when i say it booted, i mean i had to set root, linux and linux root, and initrd
[18:45] <savix> i will try that and will let you know , but just before that that is the file content, would u check it please? http://pastebin.com/m6bc67233
[18:45] <LizardK|ng> i mean it booted, buit not automatically
[18:45] <BasiumDeJudas> hey is there a good site for deleting programs and files or uninstalling files the correct way?
[18:45] <homezz> I install MYbooks professional but it didnt install a icon and I cant launch it can anyone help
[18:46] <guntbert> !software | BasiumDeJudas
[18:46] <savix> update-grub doesnt show anything to confirm it is added the windows
[18:46] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, but then it didn;t let me log in, so i'm just gonna reinstall from the cd
[18:47] <LizardK|ng> oh crap, will that use grub1 aqain?
[18:47] <BasiumDeJudas> thanks mate.
[18:47] <trism> savix: what you should actually check is /boot/grub/grub.cfg to make sure windows was added (you could have added echo "Adding Windows entry" to the start of 20_windows_xp to make sure it ran)
[18:47] <LizardK|ng> i guess it'll be ok, as now ubuntu is the first, boot, drive
[18:47] <trism> savix: also, you need to make sure 20_windows_xp is executable or update-grub won't run it
[18:47] <mMezquitale> LizardK|ng, if you want grub2 to look at your your OS's run "sudo update-grub" if that doesn't work let me know
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> Grub is just the kidn of tool ya gotta read the docs and learn about.. but then ya need to learn how hard drives and stuff works also.
[18:48] <savix> it is executable
[18:48] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, yes, well, i'd still need to log in for that :)
[18:48] <savix> i am ganna try that now , and will come back if i have problems
[18:48] <homezz> I install MYbooks professional but it didnt install a icon and I cant launch it can anyone help
[18:48] <savix> thanks in advance
[18:48] <trism> savix: good luck
[18:48] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, yes, but it should really be only if you want to; you should have to spend two days learning about a boot loader to boot your computer
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> homezz:  find the command line command to launch it.. its also possible it added an icon but the menus dident get refreshed
[18:49] <mMezquitale> LizardK|ng, you cant log in?  my apologies I haven't been following your problem all together, thats what happens when you dont give a description of the problem in one line
[18:49] <deltaray> If I want to install KDE on Ubuntu 9.10 (not Kubuntu), do I just install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[18:49] <LizardK|ng> just like you shouldn't need to be a whiz at the os to play a game
[18:49] <jchavez> Existe algun progrmaa para descargar mp3 en linux?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  go get a ps3 if ya want games i guess...
[18:49] <LizardK|ng> mMezquitale, yeah, it didn;t like my username/password
[18:49] <jchavez> no me funciona el codec para convertir los flv  a mp3 :(/
[18:49] <Autie> heu?
[18:49] <homezz> DR_willis I did do a refresh it didnt show up
[18:50] <mMezquitale> !es | jchavez
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  9.10 tossed in a lot of stuff thats 'works in progress' like grub2 and the new gdm. Hopefilly all the bug reports will make the next lts release less problematic
[18:50] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, i want to learn and use ubuntu, not grub
[18:50] <ironmanerz> deltray: yup, thats the virtual package to install kde
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> homezz:  thats odd.  Check the grub2 forums/pages then. The thing even finds windows for me thats on exteranl usb hard drives
[18:50] <Alan502> Any application recommended to edit videos? similar to sony vegas
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  did ya file a bug report on the problem?
[18:50] <homezz> DR_willis how can I find the command line
[18:51] <Alan502> and, any application recommended for screen recording? like camstasia :P
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> homezz:   how did ya install the app? if  You used the package manager. use the package manager tools to see what it installed where
[18:51] <jarrod> halow
[18:51] <jchavez> mMezquitale, sorry
[18:51] <jarrod> enybody can help me with sed ?
[18:51] <jarrod> bash
[18:51] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, no, i'm just going to reinstall
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> jarrod:  sed or bash?
[18:52] <mMezquitale> LizardK|ng, that's another issue LoL  you might want to fix that one first, ask if anyone knows how to get in to your machine if you forgot the password
[18:52] <jchavez> i have big problem i try to convert one flv file to mp3 but have problem with lliblmp3lame0.. but i have istalled  ?
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  i do find keepiong windows on its own hd.. and linux on its own. work best.
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> LizardK|ng:  put grub on the linux hd.. then ya can always use the bios menus to boot the windows hd by itself
[18:52] <jarrod> i have asdasdasd<th>remove</th>asdasd<th>remove</th>dfkjhfg
[18:52] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, i pulled out my windows hd and made linux the first hd to get as far as i have
[18:52] <blackxored> what can I use to burn bundled dvd video under gnome
[18:52] <blackxored> ???
[18:53] <sAnta89_> blackxored, Brasero?
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  i use 'devede' to convert avi to dvd video format, with menus.
[18:53] <homezz> has anyone here installed MyBooks PRO what is the executable file to get it working
[18:53] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, that's exactly what I was searching
[18:53] <blackxored> sAnta89_, thanks anyway
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  you then burn the gemerated iso with whateer tool you like.  You dont 'burn' the video to dvd. You convert the video to dvd format. :)
[18:53]  * sAnta89_ tips his hat to blackxored
[18:53] <orangey> hello all
[18:53] <jarrod> Dr_Willis ?
[18:53] <orangey> something has gone wonky with my 64 bit adobe flash since the last update
[18:53] <orangey> any thoughts?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> jarrod:  all i can say on sed is that theres books written on it and its ussage.. and theres hunderds of example web sites for it.
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> jchavez, an easy alternative (if you have mplayer installed) is to dump the audio to a wav using "mplayer -ao pcm FILE.flv" then just use lame to make it an MP3
[18:54] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, yes but I though about something combined such as probably k3b?
[18:54] <LizardK|ng> Dr_Willis, my bios doesn;t let me pick the hard drive i boot to
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  ive not noticved k3b havint that feature built in.. but ive not looked at it lately
[18:55] <jchavez> Zykotik9: mplayer -ao pcm file.flv  and thant use lame to convert to mp3 ?
[18:55] <jarrod> Dr_Willis i have some problem naw i have sed '/<th>.*<\/th>//'
[18:55] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, neither did I, but since always kde fans have pointed that to me, i though it had
[18:55] <trism> jarrod: you can't use .*, the regular expression is greedy, it will match everything
[18:55] <xayon> hi again, is there any way I can make an app autostart?
[18:56] <xayon> fuck, i've missed half of the question, sorry, a moment.
[18:56] <jarrod> Dr_Willis i search but i can't find remove and betwen example
[18:56] <wolter> hi, would anybody with a 64bit system and compiz give me [/usr/lib/compiz/libanimation.so] ?
[18:56] <trism> jarrod: you can use [^<]* though, that will match everything except the < before </td>
[18:56] <blackxored> xayon, System  -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[18:56] <Pici> xayon: Please mind your language here.
[18:56] <maco> xayon: language
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:   I tend to use devede on my backjup machines. since converting a lot of videos to dvd. can take a long time. :)
[18:56] <xayon> hi again, is there any way I can make an app autostart on gnome, without access to an X-server?
[18:56] <Hilikus> does the size of /boot change based on how many kernels i have installed?
[18:56] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, I see
[18:56] <jchavez> ZykoticK9, what is sample to use lame ?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  /boot is a directory so more kenrels in there will make it bigger yes.
[18:56] <LizardK|ng> blackxored, i use dydstyler, you can make menus too
[18:56] <jarrod> trism yes but i won alsow content of <th>...</th>
[18:57] <ZykoticK9> jchavez, "lame -h -b 128 file.wav"
[18:57] <Alan502> Any software that can record my scren?
[18:57] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: what's a good size for /boot? i usually keep like 3 or 4 kernels at a time
[18:57] <blackxored> Alan502, recordmydesktop
[18:57] <Pici> !screencast | Alan502
[18:57] <jchavez> try now !
[18:57] <trism> jarrod: you want the output of sed for the text you posted above to be: asdasdasd<th></th>asdasd<th></th>dfkjhfg (right?)
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  i rareluy bother with a seperate /boot partition any more.
[18:57] <Alan502> Thanks :)
[18:57] <Alan502> And one for video editing?
[18:57] <jchavez> ZykoticK9, ty !
[18:58] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: i just let ubuntu suggest my partitioning and it suggesdet LVM with a non-LVM partition
[18:58] <jarrod> trism without <th></th>
[18:58] <savix> hey guys , i am back again , when i tried that with "set root=(hd0,7)" it didnt work, well i have the option windows xp , but when i click on it , it shows me an error message "invalid signature"
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  i never use lvm.
[18:58] <blackxored> xayon, put a .desktop file under .config/autostart
[18:58] <jarrod> all betwen and with <th>
[18:58] <Hilikus> Dr_Willis: why not?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  why should i :)
[18:58] <Hilikus> just curious to get feedback in case i should not use it
[18:58] <savix> i really dont know how to fix my MBR :(
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  i tend to just let each hd i got be its own / or /home or whatever partition.
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> !lvm
[18:59] <trism> jarrod: sed -e "s/<th>[^<]*<\/th>//g" ... this assumes there are no < between <th></th> though...if there is, it becomes more complicated
[18:59] <Hilikus> my logic was mostly, if the installer default to it i guess it's the best they can think of
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Hilikus:  it really has no features i need. SO i dont use it.
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> I also alwyays manually partition. :)
[18:59] <savix> because even with windows cd i cannot detect my windows which is installed on partition "E"
[18:59] <Bacta> Am I an idiot or is it really not possible to download apps through the new Ubuntu Software Centre?
[18:59] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, and you spend an hour doing it :P
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  takes me all of.. perhaps 3 min during the install process to tell it where to mount my 6+ hard drives
[19:00] <homezz> has anyone here installed MyBooks PRO on ubuntu
[19:00] <blackxored> Bacta, nobody's an idiot, ellaborate your question
[19:00] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, yes, but what about _after_ the install?
[19:00] <jarrod> trism moment i will test this
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> savix:  last i heard of an issue like that.. there was some nasty virus on the guuys machine that had encrypted his windows drives.
[19:00] <smkis22> is anybody in there? :P
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  what about it?
[19:01] <savix> in my case it is not virus
[19:01] <Pici> smkis22: There are over 1,400 people here.
[19:01] <Bacta> I fired up Ubuntu Software Centre in 9.10 as I've never seen it before ... It looks like Synaptic Package Manager but simpler however it only seems to show descriptions of software that can be installed but doesn't seem to offer a way of installing it
[19:01] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, how long it will take you to resize a partition ??? :P
[19:01] <jarrod> trism BRILLIENT
[19:01] <Bacta> And plenty of people have been more than willing to call me an idiot but that's mainly in #arch ;)
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  i dont. i got each hard drive as a single partition for the most part now a days.
[19:01] <jarrod> trism THX, Dr_Willis alsow Thx
[19:01] <smkis22> haha u guys just appear! :)
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  or i got a / and swap on a hd. then /home on a 2nd hd..   and rest of the hd is storage.
[19:02] <blackxored> Bacta, ubuntu software center seems like an user-friendlier synaptic, probably in the same way than MintUpdate for Linux Mint, you could find an arrow key in the right of the software that will yet you expand and install the soft you want
[19:02] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, all right, linux is about freedom, for me lvm rocks, specially for chroots :P
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> blackxored:  i rarely need to resize.  Then again i often test out different disrtos/live cd's so i want them to all be able to access all my hd/videos/whatever files also.
[19:03] <jarrod> trism, i don't anderstand why [^<]* but it's work
[19:03] <felarof> help!!!!!!!! i need rt73 dirver for karmic
[19:03] <savix> any suggestion how can i boot to windows again ?
[19:03] <savix> :(
[19:04] <smkis22> anyway,  the fonts of my computer turn into a squares after when I was installing xorg anybody knows what can I do to get back no normal?
[19:05] <diiiiiiiildy> someone messed with my menu bar yesterday, and the ubuntu icon doesn't have the word 'system' beside it, and i'm also missoing the 'places' and 'system' menu :\
[19:05] <diiiiiiiildy> how do i get them back?
[19:05] <ctmjr> !panels | diiiiiiiildy
[19:05] <diiiiiiiildy> right click -> add to panel -> ?
[19:05] <blackxored> Bacta, you saw it?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel | diiiiiiiildy
[19:06] <trism> jarrod: [^<]* means zero or more characters that aren't the character "<", so when sed is matching, it will match <td>, then everything in between until it gets to </td>, because the first < in </td> will make it stop matching [^<]*
[19:06] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, that's true, not many distros put lvm on their livecds
[19:06] <trism> jarrod: that's why you will have problems if < appears after <td> but before </td>
[19:06] <diiiiiiiildy> brilliant
[19:06] <diiiiiiiildy> thank you Dr_Willis and ctmjr
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> bbl
 : If you're using 9.10 try searching for Eclipse and you'll see the problem ;)
[19:08] <lich> Please help me, I want to install kvm on my ubuntu, how can I do?
[19:08] <blackxored> Bacta, I select eclipse
[19:08] <centHOGG> !kvm
[19:08] <blackxored> Bacta, click the arrow
[19:08] <Bacta> I do
[19:08] <Bacta> But there's no link to install it
[19:08] <blackxored> Bacta, scroll down
[19:08] <blackxored> and click install :P
[19:08] <blackxored> a button
[19:08] <jarrod> Trism thx i now understand
[19:10] <dayz> hi
[19:11] <dayz> does anyone know how do i make a directory writable by a particular group?
[19:11] <blackxored> Bacta, did you follow?
[19:11] <maco> dayz: chgrp <newgroup> dir/
[19:11] <fhujfyujfyujfy_> hi!
[19:11] <maco> dayz: then chmod g+w dir/
[19:11] <homezz> has anyone here installed MyBooks PRO using ubuntu
[19:12] <fhujfyujfyujfy_> komen va
[19:12] <wolter> how do i reinstall a package from apt?
[19:12] <jozefk> how can I know if I need to download .deb package for GTK2 or for Qt?
[19:12] <Bacta> blackxored: No link for me
[19:12] <Bacta> might it have something to do with missing software sources?
[19:12] <arand> wolter: sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall
[19:13] <jozefk> i think i'll just go for GTK2
[19:13] <smkis22> the fonts of my computer turn into a squares, does anyone know what can I do to get them back to normal?
[19:13] <blackxored> Bacta, scroll down you show see a button just after "Price: free"
[19:14] <Bacta> Mine looks nothing like that :(
[19:14] <Bacta> Ah well, I can just do it through the cli
[19:14] <Bacta> Looked cool but I can live without it
[19:14] <jacek_> Hello
[19:14] <MASARUwota> smkiss22: all fonts? just reinstall them
[19:14] <MASARUwota> !hi|jacek_
[19:15] <lich> How can the view on my computer whether to support kvm?
[19:15] <mlissner> Does anybody know how to disable apparmor temporarily?
[19:15] <blackxored> Bacta, post an screenshot
[19:15] <Bacta> Can't, on my laptop
[19:15] <Bacta> just a minor gripe really
[19:15] <meero_> who
[19:15] <meero_> who
[19:16] <smkis22> MASARUwota: all those in system menus
[19:16] <smkis22> and desktop
[19:16] <EBOLA_> hej
[19:16] <MASARUwota> smkis22: not in the apps?
[19:16] <MASARUwota> !hi|EBOLA_
[19:16] <EBOLA_> potrzebuje pomocy w ubuntu 9.10
[19:16] <MASARUwota> !pl|EBOLA_
[19:16] <smkis22> but if I go to /usr/share/fonts they the fonts files are there!
[19:17] <blackxored> Dr_Willis, how can I add music as well?
[19:17] <MASARUwota> smkis22: i guess you should reload your cache then, give me a minute to google it
[19:17] <smkis22> MASARUwota: Ok
[19:19] <lich> Where can I download the package kvm?
[19:19] <[sober]> from the repositories yes?
[19:19] <MASARUwota> smkis22: try running fc-cache
[19:19] <lich> yes
[19:20] <smkis22> MASARUwota: I already did it .. but it didnt work
[19:20] <[sober]> lich, sudo apt-get install kvm
[19:20] <[sober]> or something along those lines ya?
[19:20] <meero_> 19:18 WHO: wireless_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is "wireless" on #ubuntu [server: irc.freenode.net, hops: 0]
[19:20] <meero_> 19:18 ------------ End of list. Found 3 matches. ------------
[19:20] <meero_> 19:18 ------------ WHO on #ubuntu filtered on 'mee' ------------
[19:21] <meero_> 19:18 WHO: meero_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is "meero" on #ubuntu [server: irc.freenode.net, hops: 0]
[19:21] <FloodBot4> meero_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <meero_> 19:18 -!- Irssi: meero_ #ubuntu n=cshadowr cshadowrun.com irc.freenode.net CShadowRun G :0 :: www.CShadowRun.com :: can't be parsed
[19:21] <[sober]> meep.
[19:22] <MASARUwota> smkis22:sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[19:22] <xover> guys, dvd creator is rubbish, its burning my DVD at 03xspeed, what is a working piece of software that i can use?
[19:23] <MASARUwota> xover: what do you want to do? just burn a dvd?
[19:23] <Law506> k3b always did the job for me
[19:24] <MASARUwota> seconding k3b here
[19:24] <zomGreg> thirding
[19:24] <CShadowRun> meero_: why can't i be parsed? :(
[19:24] <meero_> CShadowRun: what ? :-)
[19:24] <LSG> I'm trying to install a .run file for ATI drivers and for some reason i can't. I'd appreciate any help.
[19:24] <CShadowRun> (19:21:03) meero_: 19:18 -!- Irssi: meero_ #ubuntu n=cshadowr cshadowrun.com irc.freenode.net CShadowRun G :0 :: www.CShadowRun.com :: can't be parsed
[19:25] <gatekeeper> i've been using ubuntu 9.10  gnome it works real good then i thought i'd try kde and i couldn't get the network running
[19:25] <dayz> does anyone know how do i make a directory writable by a particular group?
[19:25] <MASARUwota> LSG: chmod 777 <filename>
[19:25] <cutout> Hi I need help configuring my touchpad
[19:25] <cutout> it isa not working
[19:25] <MASARUwota> cutout: install synaptics package
[19:26] <LSG> MASARUwota: Thanks, i'll give that a shot. I still have to run it from the console after that, right?
[19:26] <chadwin> UBUNTU 9.10 ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[19:26] <chadwin> LOL
[19:26] <gatekeeper> i've been using ubuntu 9.10  gnome it works real good then i thought i'd try kde and i couldn't get the network running
[19:26] <cutout> I did and it is not working
[19:26] <xover> yeah burn a DVD
[19:26] <jarray52> What is the default location of the tomcat6 logs in Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:26] <xover> it wouldnt get past 0% using the DVD creator
[19:27] <knoxy> hi all.. I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10... But I get this message "No candidate ver:  linux-image-2.6.27-16-virtual" ... what is this?
[19:27] <switch10_> dayz: chmod
[19:27] <LizardK|ng> HOORAY!! i can boot into ubuntu now!  now i just need to reconfigure everything
[19:27] <MASARUwota> LSG yes
[19:27] <Scunizi> gatekeeper: you have to click the network icon on the bottom right.  From there you should be able to figure it out.
[19:27] <cutout> MASARUwota: here is what I get GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[19:27] <cutout> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XFree86.conf to use GSynaptics
[19:27] <LizardK|ng> HOORAY!! i can boot into ubuntu now!  now i just need to reconfigure everything
[19:27] <meero_> is there a good and simple tutorial for GRUB?
[19:28] <Scunizi> !grub2 | meero_
[19:28] <MASARUwota> meero_: man grub
[19:28] <gatekeeper> i tried that and it says unavailable
[19:28] <dayz> switch10_, what arguments do i give to chmod in order to specify a group?
[19:28] <knoxy> hi all.. I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10... But I get this message "No candidate ver:  linux-image-2.6.27-16-virtual" ... what is this?
[19:28] <xover> I have a DVD stuck in my drive, how do i force it out?
[19:28] <switch10_> dayz: chmod g+w filename
[19:28] <xover> pos ubuntu failing again at simple tasks
[19:28] <guntbert> knoxy: how are you trying to upgrade?
[19:28] <Scunizi> gatekeeper: yea.. it took me several times to get it to connect.. then after a reboot it didn't stick.. not sure what I did but it has stuck now..
[19:29] <meero_> MASARUwota: man grub sucks
[19:29] <cutout> anyone can help me congigure my touchpad it is not working
[19:29] <switch10_> g=group
[19:29] <switch10_> w=write
[19:29] <Scunizi> gatekeeper: I'm also running it in a virtualbox VM
[19:29] <MASARUwota> meero_: no it doesnt :/
[19:29] <mgedmin> halp!  nautilus ignores a usb flash drive I just plugged in -- dmesg says /dev/sdb1 was detected
[19:29] <gatekeeper> ok thanks i'll try a reboot
[19:29] <Scunizi> gatekeeper: but that shouldn't make a difference
[19:29] <kitche> xover: sounds like if the dvd is stuck in your dvd drive then it's not a ubuntu problem but the user or your dvd drive
[19:29] <knoxy> guntbert using 'do-release-upgrade'
[19:29] <MASARUwota> mgedmin: mount it manually
[19:29] <mgedmin> it's NTFS-formatted, maybe that's why?
[19:29] <dayz> switch10_, thanks
[19:30] <switch10_> dayz: to remove permissions use a - instead of a +
[19:30] <MASARUwota> mgedmin: do you have the ntfs-3g package installed?
[19:30] <mgedmin> but nautilus sees the NTFS partition on my hard disk just fine
[19:30] <mgedmin> so yeah, I have ntfs-3
[19:30] <switch10_> dayz: no prob
[19:30] <MASARUwota> mgedmin: well, mount it manually then
[19:30] <Alamma1> xover: There's usually a small hole close to the eject button that you can insert a paperclip into to manually eject the drive
[19:30] <meero_> MASARUwota: .... man grub .... No manual entry for grub
[19:30] <mgedmin> actually, wait, I haven't tried that after karmic upgrade
[19:30] <mgedmin> maybe ntfs-3g got removed
[19:30] <smkis22> MASARUwota: I will try that and I'll let you know what happened.. THANK YOU!
[19:30] <MASARUwota> meero_: man grub2
[19:30] <mgedmin> no, it's installed
[19:30] <guntbert> knoxy: did you make certain to have your 9.04 up to date? (I'm only guessing at the moment)
[19:31] <cutout> is there anyone to elp configure my touchpad on 9.01
[19:31] <ardchoille> I'm using Thrunderbird as my rss reader and would like to be able to remove all thml formatting in rss feed displays. How can I accomplish this?
[19:31] <Pipi772> Helloooooooooooooooooooo
[19:31] <mgedmin> sudo mount works fine
[19:31] <Pipi772> Does anybody knows TSCLIENT???
[19:31] <smkis22> bye guys!
[19:31] <MASARUwota> cutout: read back, you got your question answered
[19:31] <MASARUwota> smkis22:bye
[19:31] <meero_> MASARUwota: No manual entry for grub2
[19:31] <knoxy> guntbert no.. hehe.. I'm not certain...
[19:32] <Gurkenglas> is there a german equivalent to #ubuntu?
[19:32] <MASARUwota> meero_: using grubv1 here, and man grub is going just fine
[19:32] <guntbert> !upgrade | knoxy (read and follow :-)
[19:32] <MASARUwota> !de|Gurkenglas
[19:32] <coolcat> MASARUwota, #ubuntu-de
[19:32] <Gurkenglas> thx
[19:32] <mlissner> Anybody know how to fix an apparmor problem?
[19:32] <Pipi772> H-e-l-p-! tsclient file.rdp doesnt work!!
[19:32] <MASARUwota> coolcat, you should be talking to gurkenglas ;/
[19:32] <mlissner> I'm struggling to get apache to work properly, but apparently this is the problem.
[19:33] <coolcat> MASARUwota, sorry
[19:33] <meero_> MASARUwota: thats why i was asking about grub 2, but there is no man for grub2 :-)
[19:34] <cutout> MASARUwota: I can't find it?
[19:34] <MASARUwota> meero_: oh well, try the official docs for grub2 at the gnu wiki then: http://grub.enbug.org/Manual
[19:34] <mgedmin> oh cool now printing doesn't work...
[19:34] <meero_> MASARUwota: thanx
[19:35] <Scunizi> mlissner: how is it not working properly? did you install from the repos?
[19:35] <burzki> meero_, this too, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[19:35] <guntbert> !doesntwork | Pipi772
[19:36] <poisonborz> ...could anyone help me? I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a A7N8X mobo with AC97 soundcard - but there is no sound, and music/video player does not start to play if internal audio is selected (it works well with pci soundcard)
[19:36] <henkpoley> Is there a way to configure what HAL uses for keyboard to send to X11 ?
[19:36] <cutout> MASARUwota: here is what I get when I run gsynaptics: GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[19:36] <MASARUwota> poisonborz: try running alsamixer
[19:36] <cutout> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XFree86.conf to use GSynaptics
[19:36] <MASARUwota> ;/
[19:36] <MASARUwota> yes
[19:36] <MASARUwota> do that then
[19:36] <poisonborz> MASARUwota, ...how?
[19:36] <Pici> !enter
[19:37] <dorgan> maybe someone knows the answer....when a file gets uploaded via ftp or sftp does the parent directories ctime get update as soon as the file transfer process starts or after the process is done??
[19:37] <MASARUwota> poisonborz: open up a terminal and type alsamixer
[19:37] <LSG> MASARUwota: Well that worked. Now i just have to reboot to see if these new drivers remove the damn "Unsupported Hardware" watermark...
[19:37] <MASARUwota> dorgan, please ask this in #linux or something, this is a busy channel :X
[19:38] <yo_rmn> how do i get dell inspiron 1501 to boot from cd?
[19:38] <Bacta> If by ctime he's referring to modification date you would assume it would work however it works with normal Unix directories
[19:38] <Bacta> but ah well
[19:38] <[sober]> jump into the bios and change settings in there, yo_rmn
[19:39] <MASARUwota> Bacta: he was asking something different, he asked WHEN that happens
[19:39] <Bacta> aha
[19:39] <Bacta> Well there are ways of finding that out for oneself i suppose
[19:40] <kitche> pretty sure it does
[19:40] <kitche> opps
[19:40] <meero_> how to set irrsi to NOT display chat from other channel (eg . from #ubuntu)
[19:41] <Autie> meero_: just leave that channel
[19:41] <Bacta> how to format your question using grammatically correct English
[19:42] <Alan502> Is there any powerful video editing software for linux?
[19:42] <nerdy_kid_> how to change sender address in linux mail?
[19:42] <guntbert> Bacta: please don't make fun of people asking for help
[19:42] <nerdy_kid_> Alan502 check out kdenlive or Openshot
[19:42] <Pici> meero_: Create a new window when you join a channel. /window new hide  then join.  There is also probably a setting that dictates this, you can find more help for irssi in their official channel: #irssi
[19:43] <Scunizi> Alan502: LiVeS! available on www.getdeb.net .. Cinrella (spelling?) usually overkill and tough to setup
[19:43] <Bacta> Yep either is ok but is nowhere near the likes of Avid
[19:43] <meero_> Autie: yes but it doest solve this properly
[19:43] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: did you read man mail?
[19:43] <Seveas> Scunizi, (cinelerra)
[19:43] <Scunizi> Seveas: ah.. thanks
[19:43] <weq> Hi I'm having some issues with grub, dual boot windows xp and ubuntu.
[19:43] <nerdy_kid_> guntbert yes i did, the -r flah doesnt work
[19:43] <Autie> meero_: probably i didn't understand your question correctly :)
[19:43] <Alan502> Scunizi, Lives? is it kdenlive?
[19:44] <Alan502> nerdy_kid_, thanks man
[19:44] <weq> 5 sata hdd and 1 ide hdd.
[19:44] <Scunizi> Alan502: no.. it's different.. kdenlive is nice but a little buggy.. at least the last time I tried it.
[19:44] <weq> and windows is on one sata and linux is on another sata but hd1,0 ain't the correct windows drive anymore
[19:44] <nerdy_kid_> Alan502 OpenShot has green screen effects too! (only one ive found so far)
[19:45] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: look at ~.mailrc or /etc/mail.rc
[19:45] <Alan502> Thanks, but, do this ones provide Chroma key effects? (aka blue/green screen)
[19:45] <Besogon> HI. I have trouble with octava 3.2. Is it stable package? I find that many packages for the karmic are depended from libreadline5, but ubuntu9.10 uses libreadline6. Octave is not exception to that rule. Can someone help me with octave please?
[19:45] <nerdy_kid_> guntbert thanks looking
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> weq:  ive noticed on some of my machines. if you use teh bios menus to select what hd to 'boot' it becomes the sda (or hd1 in grub2 terms)
[19:46] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: just giving pointers - didn't try it myself :-)
[19:46] <meero_> Pici: thank you that helped
[19:46] <nerdy_kid_> guntbert no problem, every hint helps!
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> meero_:  irssi is worth reading the docs a few times over. :) but im using Weechat these days.
[19:46] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: wouldn't that be hd0=sda ??  I thought/remember that grub started counting at 0
[19:47] <siropio> hi, there is anyon to know how to get the source code of any command?and second,who knows where i cab find the C library code?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  grub1  yes.. grub2 changes that. I forget exactly what it changed.. but ONE of those @'s start at 1 now.
[19:47] <savix> hi, my NTFS partition has been interrupted and i cannot mount it any more , is there anyway that i can fix its partition table and be able to mount it again ?
[19:47] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: btw those file are mentioned in the man page too :-)
[19:47] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: ah.. haven't really played with grub2 yet..
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  its mentioned in big letters on teh grub2 docs/wiki pages i recall
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  i think partitions now start at 1. instead of 0. I could be wrong. :)
[19:47] <trism> siropio: you can use dpkg -S /path/to/command to find what package it is in, then apt-get source package_name to download the code into the current directory
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  the logic of it excapes me. :) either leave it at starting at 0 or make both start at 1.. but not 1/2 way :)
[19:48] <savix> hi, my NTFS partition has been interrupted and i cannot mount it any more , is there anyway that i can fix its partition table and be able to mount it again ?
[19:48] <nerdy_kid_> guntbert oops..didnt see that; installed several 'mailx' programs lol
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> savix:  best to use windows to 'scan/repair' the partition.
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> savix:  then linux should be able to mount it
[19:48] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: :-)
[19:49] <tolvito> hi
[19:49] <recent> how can i send in trash, my deleted f
[19:49] <recent> iles
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> recent:  care to rephrase that. If you select a file and delete it.. it goes to the trash normally.
[19:49] <siropio> recent: shift + delete  :P
[19:49] <nickkontos> if i clone my ubuntu drive with clonezilla, will the new hard disk be bootable?
[19:50] <recent> from my extra disks
[19:50] <meero_> Dr_Willis: docs, u mean the official site?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> meero_:  yes.  Those places tend to have the best docs/support forums/faq :)
[19:51] <timmerz> hey
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> meero_:  if you like irssi. you may want to try out the latest weechat. It has some very nice features not in irssi.
[19:52] <nerdy_kid_> guntbert aha got it thanks man!
[19:52] <timmerz> ok im runing #!crunchbox and i want to duel boot it with pclinuxos minime will that work
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> timmerz:  You may need tio manually add the proper entries to the grub menus dependisn on what grub its using.
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> timmerz:  and isent it 'crunchbang' ?
[19:52] <Scunizi> timmerz: you should be able to dual boot most anything.. just remember that the last thing installed will also install the default boot loader for that system.
[19:52] <timmerz> yea lol
[19:53] <pting> how do i use awk to concatenate a string i'm piping into it that contains multiple lines and transform it into one line separated by spaces?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> timmerz:  it pays to up your grub-fu skills when atempting to do such a task.
[19:53] <Hydrosis> I always install Windows first, then ubuntu.  Windows on the first half of the disc, and usually only a small partitian.
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> single line seperated by spaces?   Things work.
[19:54] <gatekeeper> the reboot did the trick i'm up and running thanks
[19:54] <maco> timmerz: language
[19:54] <qed> if i look at gparted i have more than that remaining
[19:54] <qed> wtf is going on?
[19:54] <dport> I use windows for gaming, thats it.
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> Hydrosis:  i tend to find the oppsite of that  when i use windows.
[19:54] <Hydrosis> dport, same.
[19:54] <reign2> is it worth it to put /home on a separate partition? seems to me its kind of pointless since if the / partition goes down your going to lose alot of settings and libs anyway :\
[19:54]  * Dr_Willis makes $$ using Ubuntu live cd's to rescue friends windows systems..
[19:55] <dport> If i'm not planning on playing a game I stay booted into ubuntu all the time
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> reign2:  its Great when you reinstall.
[19:55] <Hydrosis> Dr_Willis: I prefer Linux, but im a gamer.
[19:55] <guntbert> nerdy_kid_: nice :)
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> reign2:  and id rather / go down and lose some settings then /home go down and lose my err.. vacation videos.
[19:55] <pting> i don't play windows games unless they run under wine
[19:56] <Hydrosis> pting: you are missing out on most games.
[19:56] <kitty_> ok i really need help with my networking
[19:56] <timmerz> i gave up on windows i bought a net book with no disk drive the recovery partiotion corrupted the disks acer sent me went even formatted and i cant get the copy of win xp that i rightfully own from buying my machine with it
[19:56] <reign2> Dr_Willis: ah I see; so its basically to save files
[19:56] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: I've been using irssi for some time but weechat looks promising.
[19:56]  * Dr_Willis equates 'im a gamer' to someone bragging about 'i sit all day and watch tv'  :)
[19:56] <Hydrosis> Linux gaming is a joke.  Does anone know of a GOOD fps that doesnt look like a nintendo64 game?
[19:56] <qed> anyone?  my disk space is shown as 100% used.  gparted shows otherwise.
[19:56] <Bilz> hello. i want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu. im going to install windows 7 first. would the best way to do to be to create an extended partition, and then 4 primary partitions in there: 1 windows, 1 ubuntu, 1 swap, and 1 storage between the two? googling dual booting but it doesnt seem to say much about extended partitions, and id like to access a shared storage between ubuntu and windows.
[19:56] <chivilcasa> hi, ubuntu one within pass?
[19:56] <qed> when i boot with the newest kernel it tells me power manager was incorrectly installed
[19:56] <qed> and wont log in
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  yea. the 3.0 version (not in the repos yet) has some very nice features.  the 'smart hideing' of join/part/quits is  soooo handy.
[19:57] <qed> yet another ubuntu filesystem bug
[19:57] <reign2> Hydrosis: wine runs pretty much anything I throw at it for the most part with minor issues
[19:57] <qed> freaking annoyin
[19:57] <Scunizi> Hydrosis: look on www.getdeb.net for prepackaged .debs .. all their software is done by catagory
[19:57] <Hydrosis> Bilz, windows first then use gparted from the Live CD to make partition.  It will make yoru swaps automatically for you.
[19:57] <pting> qed: what does df -h report?
[19:57] <qed> 100% use
[19:57] <qed> size: 46GB, used: 44GB
[19:57] <pting> qed, on your /var mount?
[19:57] <qed> Use 100%
[19:58] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: in irssi I just /ignore joins parts quits and it's done .. then /save ..
[19:58] <Hydrosis> reign2: I cant get wine to run the apps I need, like Cool Edit Pro and some games.  Game will work, but they all lag.  The same games work fine on the same machine with Windows.
[19:58] <Bilz> Hydrosis, but I should put them all in an extended partition yes?
[19:58] <pting> qed, or do you just have one huge partition
[19:58] <kitty_> qed thats the tune2fs reserved block
[19:58] <timmerz> wow u guys r playing with little drives 44 gig?
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  thats not 'smart' hideing.
[19:58] <qed> one partition
[19:58] <kitty_> qed i have same problem with my 4Gb microsd card
[19:58] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: probably not .. lol..
[19:58] <qed> i had 5 gigs left yesterday when i shut down
[19:58] <Besogon> Does there present any different between libreadline5 and libreadline6? (that lib seems to do the same)
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  if  someone that has never chatted just joins/parts i DONT see that .. if YOU part- I do see it.
[19:58] <pting> qed, ext3? ext4?
[19:58] <dport> That is a small drive
[19:58] <kitty_> ./dev/sda1              3944244   3587128    317360  92% /
[19:58] <qed> ext4
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  and i can alt-= and show all the parts/joins on the fly :)
[19:58] <qed> err sorry
[19:58] <Scunizi> Dr_Willis: that's cool
[19:58] <qed> ext3
[19:58] <Flare183> !who
[19:59] <maco> qed: the reserved space, maybe?
[19:59] <pting> qed, hum... have you tried disk usage analyzer?
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  yep. VERY handy. and it has some scripts to manage all the scripts at their web site. so you can  use a command in the client to check/install/update your scripts
[19:59] <qed> pting: yes it shows var/log as being 22GB
[19:59] <qed> which is freaking huge
[19:59] <kitty_> qed: try tune2fs and the -m option trips your trigger
[19:59] <qed> none of the files below it are that big
[19:59] <Flare183> qed: Same here.
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> Scunizi:  i dont see myself going back to irssi any time soon. :)
[20:00]  * Flare183 has a massive user.log file
[20:00] <qed> how do you use tune2fs
[20:00] <pting> qed, hum... and nothing's in the /var/log folder?
[20:00] <qed> tune2fs -m /dev/sdb1?
[20:00]  * Flare183 needs to clean it up with the LiveCD
[20:00] <qed> pting: nothing man
[20:00] <reign2> Hydrosis: yeah wine isnt perfect; some games dont run properly and not all programs work (any media player using ffdshow for instance)
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> qed:  qwith a sudo in there..   and the changes normally DONT take affect till after a reboot. (or the system some how remounts the filesystem)
[20:00] <Aciid> has nautilus .gnome/nautilus-scripts been deprecated on ubuntu?
[20:01] <qed> Dr_Willis: can i run this while the FS is mounted?
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> Aciid:  i still see/use some nautilus scripts
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> qed:  yes you can. but the changes dont take affect untill after its remounted.
[20:01] <qed> tune2fs: bad reserved block ratio - /dev/sdb1
[20:01] <qed> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> qed:  I normally set the label, and the reserved space to be like  a few blocks or 1% on some drives
[20:01] <VCoolio> Aciid: it's .gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[20:01] <qed> Dr_Willis: could you give me an example?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> qed:  check the docs/manpages  theres several ways to set the reserve
[20:02] <qed> im at work and desperate to get this fixed
[20:02] <kitty_> tune2fs /dev/sdb1 -m [%youwanttochangeitto]
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> qed:  i think -m 0   = 0%
[20:02] <Bilz> hello. i want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu. im going to install windows 7 first. would the best way to do to be to create an extended partition, and then 4 primary partitions in there: 1 windows, 1 ubuntu, 1 swap, and 1 storage between the two? googling dual booting but it doesnt seem to say much about extended partitions, and id like to access a shared storage between ubuntu and windows.
[20:02] <qed> Dr_Willis: what does this do?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> qed:  or ya can do it by block.
[20:02] <kitty_> i believe 10% is the default, i'd go as low as 5% on a 40Gb partition cause there won't be much need for more
[20:02] <ardchoille> I'm using Thrunderbird as my rss reader and would like to be able to remove all thml formatting in rss feed displays. How can I accomplish this?
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> 5% is the default kitty_
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> 5% reserved on a 1tb hd = quite a bit of space. :)
[20:03] <qed> i mean, why the hell is this happening?  i had 5.7GB yesterday when i shut down
[20:03] <qed> how did it magically become 0% free space
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> qed:  no idea.
[20:03] <qed> man, this is the second time ubuntu has given me serious filesystem issues
[20:03] <kitty_> ok i was wrong, all i know is i came in with the exact problem he has and i went around deleting old kernel versions, logs in my /var/log and killing system monitors like atop and removing logging features for network traffic that would fill my partition in minutes
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> qed:  i got more then 5.7gb in just wallpaper in my /home :)
[20:03] <ardchoille> hehe
[20:03] <maco> Dr_Willis: O_o
[20:04] <Aciid> VCoolio: thanks
[20:04] <gp5st> anyone here have trouble installing the intel compilers in 9.10?
[20:04] <kitty_> dr_willis must have a massive desktop resolution
[20:04] <synx> Hello. I can't get the liveCD to work. The splash screen displays then the CD drive winds down, then nothing.
[20:04] <kitty_> Dr_Willis, you consider yourself adept when it comes to networking problems?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> Found a tool the other day that downloaded all the national geographic 'wallpapers' in one go. :) found another one today that adds them to the gnome wallpapers as  that special 'auto changeing every 20 min' feature also
[20:04] <synx> I checked the md5sums.txt file and all sums check out.
[20:04] <qed> can ijust rm my user.log?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> kitty_:  i manage to do ok for the most part
[20:04] <qed> i just*
[20:04] <Hilikus> why does ubuntu server 9.10 install kerner 2.6.31-14-generic-pae as default? what happened to *-server?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> qed:  look for archived logs also.
[20:05] <kitty_> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/f5f191fea
[20:05] <qed> i removed my user.log.1 and freed up 8gb
[20:05] <qed> jesus christ
[20:05] <DEViUS> hi i need to block a port, which is open by god knows what, how do i do that?
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> kitty_:  looks liek you are getting some invalid packits.
[20:05] <maco> Hilikus: the only significant difference between them was pae support anyway, so it was renamed
[20:05] <qed> why the hell would user.log get so big
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> qed:  lots of users? :)
[20:06] <kitty_> Dr_Willis i'm actually requesting them
[20:06] <qed> 1 user Dr_Willis :)
[20:06] <Hilikus> maco: ok, so it's normal. thanks
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> DEViUS:  by default eveyrthing is open.. but theres no services.. so it dosent matter.. so clarify what you need. Theres the ufw firewall front end to block things if you wanted to
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> !ufw | DEViUS
[20:07] <synx> DEViUS: iptables -t OUTPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport $something -j DROP
[20:07] <synx> oh wait, maybe it's sport on input...
[20:07] <synx> dport on input... never mind >_<
[20:08] <qed> wow.
[20:08] <qed> just wow
[20:08] <synx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:08] <qed> i removed debug.log.1 and user.log.1 and got 16GB of free space
[20:08] <qed> wtf is going on here
[20:08] <dassouki> I just realized after exporting 20 cds to my computer, they saved as ".ogg" is there a way I can mass convert to mp3 ?
[20:09] <switch10_> dassouki: sound converter
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> dassouki:  from what i hear ogg sounds better. :)
[20:09] <switch10_> dassouki: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> was that a pun? guess it was..
[20:09] <qed> how do i make my logging cap lower?
[20:09] <kitty_> Dr_Willis: network layout, laptop -> ppp0 alltel dialup, eth0 wireless nic, eth1 wired nic -> linksys wrt54gls set up as a wireless access point only, then i got all those packets after starting my NDS and connecting to internet
[20:09] <qed> i dont need 8GB user.logs
[20:09] <switch10_> dassouki: ogg is open source.  mp3 is not