[00:00] <BigMig> anybody? please just point me in the right direction
[00:00] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, np, I like to help other people (and I get frustrated when I don't succeed at it) ;-)
[00:01] <xskydevilx> How to I convert a *.ogv file to *.avi ?
[00:01] <soreau> My natty wont load ubuntu classic session. It worked the first time, but since I switched to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu', now all sessions load unity regardless. How can I fix it?
[00:01] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[00:01] <soreau> Is there some file that controls the session?
[00:02] <BigMig> I updated Ubuntu using the updater from the last verision to Natty Narwal and after update all I seeis flashing icons and cant do anything. I'd perfer not to have to downlaod the lice cd and reinstall that way, can anybody point me in the right direction
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, use Yelp
[00:02] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, it is indeed getting late (1:00 AM here), so I'll follow my plan and I'll head for my bed now. Good luck resolving this. Could be a partially supported chipset or another device that is somehow interfering.
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, there is already a guide for resolving network issues
[00:02] <zizban> /usr/share/sessions ?
[00:02] <Angelic> where?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, open a terminal, type yelp
[00:03] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:03] <CodeGnome> BigMig: You mean your desktop is hosed, or what?
[00:03] <soreau> zizban: That directory doesn't even exist. I would assume it would be some file in /etc
[00:03] <Angelic> its just displaying a white panel
[00:04] <happolati> Did I get another nvidia driver when i upgraded to 11.04? Google earth suddenly won't work, I get : Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[00:04] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:04] <happolati> Google Earth has caught signal 11.
[00:04] <BigMig> no i dual boot and just ubuntu is screwed
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, Ill try to help you, what's the issue?
[00:04] <soreau> happolati: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.ca
[00:04] <CodeGnome> BigMig: That's kind of vague. Screwed how?
[00:04] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Well, its seeing the wifi networks but the wifi networks available is showing in grey.
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, have you tried disabling-re-enabling your adapter
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> just uncheck the box "wireless networking" then re-check it
[00:05] <zizban> soreau, I have /usr/share/xsessions
[00:05] <BigMig> after boot it shows blinking icons and doesnt let me do anythinh
[00:05] <linuxman410> does anyone know of a linux program that will clone my harddrive so i do not have to reload when i change the harddrive
[00:05] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Tried, still the same result.
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, is this new?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, or did you just upgrade to natty
[00:06] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:06] <BigMig> it worked before the update
[00:06] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Its new.
[00:06] <soreau> zizban: That appears to contain the session files, but not the config file to select which it's using
[00:06] <BigMig> perfectly
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, install any new software? is this a new adapter?
[00:06] <geus> Angelic, maybe you accidentally turned of wireless by means of fn+f2 or a switch/button on the side?
[00:06] <CodeGnome> BigMig: You can try a couple of things. Do a cold boot; Windows can hose firmware. If it's just your graphical desktop that's hosed, you can delete your gnome directories and try with a fresh desktop.
[00:06] <BigMig> my question is where to find out how to fix it without downloading a disk and reinstlling
[00:06] <zizban> soreau, right. Does it show all the sessions?
[00:06] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Lastly I put quite a few updates on it.
[00:06] <soreau> zizban: yep
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, open Synaptic file manager
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> then go File -- History
[00:07] <CodeGnome> BigMig: So, GDM doesn't show up at all after booting?
[00:07] <zizban> so you select Unity, log out, login and it doesn't change?
[00:07] <Topy44> ok, never mind my flow control problem from before... i have a windows app that uses the serial port which works fine on windows, but in wine it can send but not receive data. sending data works, and other windows apps in wine (like putty for example) work fine too.
[00:07] <BigMig> no all i see is my desktop backround and blinking icons
[00:08] <Angelic> geus: Its an IBM R32.
[00:08] <BigMig> if by cold boot u mean manually resetting the computer and selecting the kernel i do that
[00:08] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Done.
[00:08] <Topy44> minicom on the same serial port at the same time recieves the data fine, but it somehow never reaches the windows app in wine
[00:08] <CodeGnome> BigMig: Fine, so you're actually booting and getting a desktop. Try CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a TTY, log in, and remove your desktop folders:
[00:08] <Glycan> How come, with a WUbi install,  I hav e0 bytes left on \, but 24GB on \host?
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, go to file --> history
[00:08] <tepster> cold boot = power computer off
[00:08] <zizban> soreau, check and see if you have a /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[00:08] <CodeGnome> BigMig: .gnome/          .gnome2/         .gnome2_private/
[00:09] <Glycan> And how do I reloacate said memory?
[00:09] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: I am in there and now I see all the history.
[00:09] <BigMig> thanks i will try that
[00:09] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:09] <Captainkrtek> okay, find anything related to kernel updates or your wireless card?
[00:09] <soreau> zizban: Yes
[00:09] <CodeGnome> BigMig: Hope that helps.
[00:10] <zizban> soreau, Is is this a new install or upgrade
[00:10] <rednammoc> little question about booting my encrypted hd during boot. i added a line to /etc/crypttab and another to /etc/fstab. During boot it asks about the hd. Pressing 'M' i get to manual mode. ls /dev/mapper/ --> the hd is not mapped to this folder. manually steps like: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb my_map; mount /dev/mapper/my_map /media/the_map -- are working. any ideas what's wrong :-?
[00:10] <soreau> zizban: clean install
[00:10] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: Linux firmware thats about it.
[00:10] <Glycan> PArdonÉ
[00:10] <Glycan> Anyoen mind answering?
[00:10] <donkeyinspace> hello, is there a specific channel to talk about compiling?
[00:10] <ceed^> I have my disk partitioned with a / partition and an encrypted /home partition. Before I encrypted /home I updated by deleting everything in /home except for data and format and install on /. Can I do that with an encrypted /home?
[00:11] <zizban> soreau, sounds like something went wrong during install.
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> donkeyinspace, #ubuntu-devel
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, hold on
[00:11] <donkeyinspace> Captainkrtek , thanks
[00:11] <bazhang> Glycan, you want to resize / on wubi ?
[00:11] <Captainkrtek> donkeyinspace, no problem
[00:11] <soreau> zizban: I doubt it. The classic session worked the first time but since switching to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu' now both load unity
[00:11] <rednammoc> ceed^: you deleted everything except for data ?
[00:12] <Glycan> Yes.
[00:12] <Glycan> bazhang: yes
[00:12] <bazhang> Glycan, there's a special tool for that
[00:12] <Glycan> What is it?
[00:12] <soreau> zizban: I just want to know what happens exactly (or what's supposed to happen) when switching sessions
[00:13] <soreau> zizban: I assume some config file is changed but I have no idea where that might be
[00:13] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, can you try and find the package for your wireless card?
[00:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> hey all, i'm stuck at an initramfs screen, with an error where it can't find /sbin/init in the system on boot.  It booted fine last night.  I also can't load up the LiveUSB.  Any suggestions on fixing?
[00:13] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[00:13] <rednammoc> ceed^: what do you meen by saying you deleted everything except data on /home ?
[00:13] <ceed^> rednammoc, yes all the settings for programs and such, but kept all my data like docs music pics and such. That's been the way I've upgraded Ubuntu for years. Now I had to encrypt /home, so I wonder if I will be able to access the old encrypted /home after an instll on /?
[00:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371 Glycan
[00:14] <zizban> soreau, got me
[00:14] <w30> How do I make Unity start at login rather than restarting window manager after I log in?
[00:14] <puff> How do you figure out if a CPU is 64-bit?
[00:14] <soreau> zizban: I am requesting the ubuntu gdm source in the devel channel
[00:15] <rednammoc> ceed^: mounting the encrypted root-partition on boot works but you have problems by mounting the encrypted home-partition?
[00:15] <puff> I've tried to install ubuntu on this old dell poweredge three times, with two different releases (10.4 LTS and 11) and the altenrate install CD.  Every time, it gets halfway through the install, and the screen freezes.
[00:15] <bastidrazor> puff: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm     :if you get any output you have a 64 bit capable processor
[00:15] <puff> bastidrazor: Okay, so it's *not* 64-bit...
[00:16] <zizban> soreau, you know it might be controlled by $GNOME_PREFIX/share/gdm/defaults.conf
[00:16] <zizban> I'm not sure though
[00:16] <georgie> hello
[00:17] <rednammoc> ceed^: mounting the encrypted root-partition on boot works but you have problems by mounting the encrypted home-partition?
[00:17] <ceed^> rednammoc, I do not have any problems now. When I upgrade Ubuntu I use custom partitioning. I format / and install on it. I do not format /home which is where I keep all my data. That worked fine when I didn't have /home encrypted. Now I do, so I wonder if the installer will recognize the encrypted /home partition?
[00:17] <ceed^> rednammoc, the only partition which is encrypted is /home.
[00:18] <drmorphias> i just installed ubuntu 11.04, and i see that nvidia drivers are installed but the additional drivers page says that no proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[00:19] <victorhugo289> hello
[00:19] <drmorphias> victorhugo289, hi
[00:19] <rednammoc> ceed^: this is a google result for: ubuntu installation recognize encrypted home partition --> http://superuser.com/questions/12182/how-to-get-a-reinstall-of-ubuntu-to-recognize-home-partition
[00:19] <victorhugo289> Guys, in Banshee, does "importing your videos" copy everything into a different folder?
[00:19] <victorhugo289> what does it do?
[00:20] <soreau> zizban: 'locate defaults.conf|grep gdm' shows no output
[00:20] <Aikar> tanyone know why im getting a black screen after switching to KDE?
[00:20] <drmorphias> "this driver is activated but not currently in use"... how do i make ubuntu use the nvidia driver?
[00:21] <victorhugo289> The Banshee "import" option, does it copy media files into a different folder? anybody?
[00:21] <Glycan> Why won't ubuntu recognize my cds?
[00:21] <zizban> I dont think so
[00:21] <w30> drmorphias, make sure you read the buttons right, my drivers are green button and  gray button; confusing
[00:21] <zizban> I think it just makes a playlist
[00:21] <happolati> soreau: Ok, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/2053648
[00:21] <victorhugo289> Zizban, I don't think so either, but I just wanna make sure before I click on "Import"
[00:22] <drmorphias> w30, yeah it shows a green icon. confusingly enough, unity works when ubuntu claims the driver isnt in use (ugh)
[00:22] <victorhugo289> I'm running out of space on my computer
[00:22] <zizban> victorhugo289, I think your safe
[00:22] <freeman_> i am running ubuntu 64 bit on my single processor netbook. should i worry or is it ok?
[00:22] <ceed^> rednammoc, I have read that, but that is about /home that's not encrypted. I already know how to do that  without /home encrypted.
[00:23] <victorhugo289> I'll choose the option, then. : )
[00:23] <Joker_77> lol free should be ok
[00:23] <Jordan_U> freeman_: That is OK.
[00:23] <user10213> hallo
[00:23] <drmorphias> is there like a 3d test i can run to really see if the driver is actually being used?
[00:23] <Ziber> Would anyone be able to venture a guess as to why skype makes my laptop run really hot (~90C) but is fine otherwise?
[00:23] <w30> drmorphias, how do you make Unity default without  having to reload window manager?
[00:23] <user10213> can someone help me please?
[00:23] <Ziber> ubuntu 10.10...
[00:23] <user10213> need help at 11.04 natty narwhal
[00:23] <Joker_77> im running 32 bit ubuntu on my netbook
[00:23] <user10213> just dunno how to partition
[00:23] <Maahes> how do you make a sound theme?
[00:23] <drmorphias> w30, idk... it defaulted for me.
[00:24] <w30> drmorphias, if you can run the program gears then the driver works
[00:24] <Jordan_U> drmorphias: If unity3D is working then you're using the proprietary nvidia drivers.
[00:24] <user10213> hmmmmmmmmp
[00:24] <Joker_77> the only problem ive had with ubuntu on a netbook is
[00:24] <user10213> someone help me?
[00:24] <rednammoc> ceed^: ok. i now the manual steps to do that: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<device> <map_name>; sudo mount /dev/map/<map_name> /home
[00:24] <Jordan_U> w30: Incorrect. glxgears can be runwith the software renderer.
[00:24] <tepster> user10213: ubuntu install walks you through partitioning
[00:24] <Joker_77> some of the program guis wont ajust for this screen size
[00:24] <sary> user10213: use gparted
[00:24] <victorhugo289> Yup! everything's ok!
[00:25] <ray24> If an external hd was originally formated on a windows, it should be able to on linux?
[00:25] <Joker_77> i like cli better anyways though
[00:25] <zizban> victorhugo289, good to hear!
[00:25] <Ziber> Would anyone be able to venture a guess as to why skype makes my laptop run really hot (~90C) but is fine otherwise (ubuntu 10.10)?
[00:25] <rednammoc> ceed^: to manually mount your home-partition you need to edit /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab
[00:25] <w30> Jordan_U, how do you get Unity to run at login?
[00:25] <victorhugo289> Great!
[00:25] <tepster> ray24: yes, ntfs or fat are windows filesystems that linux can read
[00:25] <Joker_77> atm?
[00:25] <Glycan> Hello?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ray24: Yes. What the drive used to have is of no consequence.
[00:25] <ray24> For some reason, linux isn't letting me format my external drive
[00:25] <Glycan> How do I make Ubuntu see my CDs?
[00:25] <sary> user10213: dual booting ?
[00:25] <Joker_77> tep and fat32
[00:26] <Jordan_U> w30: It runs by default.
[00:26] <zizban> Glycan, gotta be a little more specific than that
[00:26] <geus> ray24, what message do you het?
[00:26] <Glycan> Ubuntu doens't see my CDs. That's it.
[00:26] <ray24> "error creating filesystem"
[00:26] <w30> Jordan_U, not for me *sigh*
[00:26] <Joker_77> should just show up on the desktop
[00:26] <ceed^> rednammoc, so what you're saying is that installer won't recognize the encrypted partition as such even if I set it as /home with the manual partitioner in the installer?
[00:26] <Glycan> When I trry to do "Write to disc" on some file, with a cd, I closes.
[00:27] <Glycan> It*, e.g. he file browser
[00:27] <geus> ray24, what command/program are you using?
[00:27] <w30> Jordan_U, I have to restart the window manager to get it to run.
[00:27] <Glycan> It opens a prompt the first time you put in a CD, but not the next times for the same CD.
[00:27] <ray24> geus, I right click on the hd to format, just straight off linux
[00:28] <geus> ray24, never done it like that, is the disk unmounted? I always use gparted
[00:28] <Joker_77> jeffster
[00:28] <rednammoc> ceed^: i never tried that before so i would be really careful about that :D
[00:28] <ray24> wait, I just realized I had "ext" as type of format
[00:28] <zizban> Glycan, what does the prompt say?
[00:28] <user10213> what is swap space?
[00:28] <Glycan> Open this CD with..
[00:28] <ray24> Nope, still didn't work. I changed it to NTSF type
[00:28]  * zizban hasn't burned a CD in Ubuntu in years
[00:28] <zizban> Glycan, and what do you choose?
[00:28] <Joker_77> jeffster is now known as jeffster
[00:29] <geus> ray24, , is the disk unmounted?
[00:29] <ray24> it's mounted
[00:29] <bull9408> I downloaded python while I was attempting to set up Conky, and now my splash screens on startup and shutdown are jacked up, I decided I didn't want to use Conky on this system. Anybody know how I can uninstall python? and Conky?
[00:29] <rednammoc> ceed^: maybe there is a dialog where it say's: "can't read that device/partition -> wanna format"
[00:29] <user10213> what is swap space? :D
[00:29] <ray24> I can access the files on it,but I can't delete or create new files on it, which is why I'm formating
[00:29] <Joker_77> python_h
[00:29] <ihsanuddin> tes
[00:29] <Glycan> Er.. Burn stuff to cd
[00:30] <Glycan> I forget, sort of, since I only saw it once.
[00:30] <Glycan> Aha.
[00:30] <Joker_77> sudo apt-get remove whatever isnt it?
[00:30] <Glycan> "Open CD/DVD Creator
[00:30] <Glycan> "
[00:30] <zizban> try it with "Brasero"
[00:30] <Glycan> "You have just inserted a black CD. Choose what application to launch"
[00:30] <Glycan> hang on.
[00:31] <bull9408> Joker_77 I'm not positive what exactly I typed in the terminal :O one second and I'll pull it up
[00:31] <Joker_77> so take it out and insert a white one
[00:31] <ceed^> rednammoc, hopefully it is. I guess I will simply have to backup data on /home and then try to see if it works. Thank you for the manual method though. Good to know! :)
[00:31] <Cporter> does Ubuntu work on RAID 0, and do I have to do anything to it to make it work? I was using WUBI to install but keep getting srros
[00:31] <Joker_77> do a autoclean first
[00:32] <rednammoc> ceed^: you're welcome :D
[00:32] <Joker_77> srros?
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Cporter: Yes it works (not that I recommend RAID 0, especially FakeRAID which you are most likely talking about).
[00:33] <geus> ray24, easy answer: use gparted, unmount the drive and repartition/format
[00:33] <rednammoc> Cporter: maybe this helps you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2rZe2Z9as
[00:33] <Joker_77> jordan its better then no raid and its easier to upgrade later
[00:33] <ray24> geus, it seems that I Don't have permission to access/delete my files on external
[00:33] <bull9408> Joker_77 , I typed in $sudo apt-get install aptitude python-statgrab ttf-droid hddtemp curl lm-sensors conky-all
[00:33] <bull9408> $sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/hddtemp
[00:33] <comthre3> Guys,, Transmission wont download any torrent after update to Natty,, can someone help please?
[00:33] <bull9408> $sudo sensors-detect #answering
[00:34] <geus> yeah, figured that much
[00:34] <Joker_77> chmod 777 filename
[00:34] <bull9408> ignore the $ s
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Joker_77: I would argue that RAID 0 is in many respects much worse than no RAID at all.
[00:34] <comthre3> Tried deleting the config folder, with no avail
[00:34] <comthre3> can someone help please?
[00:34] <Joker_77> its easer to do forensics on too u get less lost data jordon
[00:34] <user10213> can someone private chat and help me on installing linux??
[00:35] <user10213> 11.04 natty narwhal
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !pm | user10213
[00:35] <platzhirsch> Is everyone satisfied with Unity?
[00:35] <Maahes> anyone know a skeleton template for making a sound theme?
[00:35] <Joker_77> no i like anarchy
[00:35] <geus> ray24, you could cd to the drive and type "sudo chown -R yourusername" (make sure you have backups of all your data 1st)
[00:35] <zizban> I love Unity.
[00:35] <tepster> im liking Unity..it has its quirks though
[00:35] <comthre3> anyone with transmission experience ? the ports are all set and open, the router is configured, Vuze started working now, but not transmission
[00:36] <tsrk> How do I add kernel boot parameters permanently, that last through kernel upgrades?
[00:36] <minarge> I find unity gets better the longer you use it
[00:36] <zizban> ya it has quirks but it's mostly awesome
[00:36] <geus> ray24, otherwise try gparted
[00:36] <Joker_77> anyone tried inguma?
[00:36] <w30> platzhirsch, I cant get it to be default.
[00:36] <platzhirsch> I have still some troubles with using multiple monitors, but its fine
[00:36] <minarge> as it once it knows your typical programs it becomes more efficient
[00:36] <comthre3> hello,, anyone?
[00:36] <w30> platzhirsch, I have to restart window manager
[00:37] <platzhirsch> w30: :(
[00:37] <quant> !question
[00:37] <tepster> i love that top left application button though...i use something like that all the time in mac os x
[00:37] <ray24> geus, its formating now, I'm not sure if it was because I downloaded gparted as I did not use it.
[00:37] <tepster> works kind of like spotlight
[00:37] <geus> ray24, good!
[00:37] <ututu> tsrk, add them in /etc/default/grub
[00:37] <Joker_77> anyone tried inguma?
[00:37] <ray24> geus you're great, thanks.
[00:37] <Cporter> it's not "FakeRaid" and this computer is better with the e read bonus, not redundancy necessary. I just want to dual boot win7 and Ubuntu.
[00:38] <Cporter> ill okk at the vid, thanks
[00:38] <bull9408> can somebody tell me how to uninstall python
[00:38] <Cporter> dam, i cant type today
[00:38] <ray24> geus, it works now :) thanks again dude!!
[00:38] <Veloce06> I have a backup from clonezilla of my previous machine. I'm trying to mount the .img file on loopback after restoring it using partclone, but I keep getting a can't read superblock. dmesg | tail shows XFS: last sector read failed. Any ideas?
[00:38] <geus> glad it worked out
[00:38] <zizban> bull9408, why do want to do that?
[00:38] <Joker_77> yeah no prob porter i would suggest rewiting the boot.ini instead of using grub though
[00:39] <eiriksvin> is there a way to use gnome3 in 11.04 Classic?
[00:39] <comthre3> can someone help me with transmission pleaase?
[00:39] <bull9408> I had installed it to use conky, however I changed my mind because I don't want conky on this system now. It has messed up splash screens on start up and shut down. and a few other graphical issues
[00:39] <quant> eiriksvin, there is a way to install Gnome Shell and Gnome 3 which breaks Unity
[00:40] <quant> !question | comthre3
[00:40] <tsrk> ututu: Thank you, that's the file I'm looking for
[00:40] <Joker_77> hey anyone have any experience with postgresql?
[00:40] <eiriksvin> i want to keep unity for my gf, but i want the sweet eye candy for my classic
[00:40] <Cporter> unfortunately I wouldn't know how to do that without messing it up. The problem is i keep getting an error sayingno root file system. but it works with the laptop fine
[00:40] <ututu> tsrk, np
[00:40] <zizban> bull9408, if you installed it via apt, just go to Synaptic and uninstall it
[00:40] <quant> eiriksvin, Classic is Gnome 2
[00:41] <Joker_77> thats what i said ziz
[00:41] <comthre3> quant transmission wont work, tried to delete the config folder, nothing, the ports are all set and open, the router is configured, Vuze started working now, but not transmission
[00:41] <bull9408> didn't know synaptic recognized if i installed through terminal
[00:41] <minarge> @fennucci before logging in you can change the session to ubuntu classic
[00:41] <zizban> Joker_77, had back turned, eating
[00:41] <zizban> bull9408, it does
[00:41] <quant> comthre3, what exact problem are you getting?
[00:41] <zizban> eiriksvin, try Unity2D ;-)
[00:41] <bull9408> zizban, good deal, thanks man
[00:41] <zizban> bull9408, my pleasure
[00:42] <comthre3> quant, its simply not downloading/uploading anything, not even connecting to peers/seeds host unreachable, on all torrents
[00:42] <donkeyinspace> hello, where can i talk about compiling?
[00:42] <bull9408> zizban, actually I'm now seeing that I had not downloaded python, it's integral to ubuntu, well, unity...
[00:42] <Joker_77> hello world
[00:42] <quant> comthre3, do you see it open the torrent file?
[00:42] <bull9408> zizban, here's the command I put in terminal: $sudo apt-get install aptitude python-statgrab ttf-droid hddtemp curl lm-sensors conky-all
[00:42] <bull9408> $sudo chmod u+s /usr/sbin/hddtemp
[00:42] <bull9408> $sudo sensors-detect #answering
[00:42] <fennucci> eh minarge
[00:42] <tepster> donkeyinspace: #ubuntu-dev i believe
[00:43] <comthre3> quant,  the torrent file loads, but gives a 0 0 peers seeds doesnt connect to anyone
[00:43] <zizban> bull9408, unless you are crunched for disk space, don't worry a bout those. they're harmless
[00:43] <minarge> ah sorry does @<username> send a private message?
[00:43] <bull9408> ok.
[00:43] <Joker_77> idid u autoclean?
[00:43] <quant> comthre3, check more torrents and check all the setting (maximum and minimum dowload and upload limit etc.)
[00:43] <bull9408> zizban, any clue about what messed up my splash screens
[00:44] <Eyes_Only> Hello everyone, I need some help with keyboard mapping and manually altering what keys do.
[00:44] <zizban> bull9408, what splash scrren?
[00:44] <comthre3> quant, did that, tried 13 torrents from different sites, all working in vuze non in transmission
[00:44] <eiriksvin> is unity 2D gonna give me that little glow around my windows, and make my menus  and windows tranpsparent?
[00:44] <minarge> quant whats wrong with your keys?
[00:45] <puff> Can anybody help me get ubuntu installed on this machine?
[00:45] <eiriksvin> cus thats what i want, i like my inside veiw desktop box too
[00:45] <puff> It keeps freezing halfway through the install.
[00:45] <bull9408> zizban, well I'm referring to them as splash screens, the "Ubuntu" screen with the "....." when you are starting up and shutting down. They just kinda go black and do some crazy pixelation, thing. not really sure
[00:45] <zizban> eiriksvin, I'm not sure. My untiy 2d install is that work
[00:45] <Eyes_Only> minarge: ae you talking to me?
[00:45] <zizban> bull9408, did this start after you installed that software?
[00:45] <bull9408> yes
[00:46] <Veloce06> I'm trying to mount a backup .img file getting the error /dev/loop0: can't read superblock. This is from a clonezilla backup of an XFS partition. What is this error telling me? Google didn't give me anything either.
[00:46] <Joker_77> ziz get him to start with a autoclean to see if its leftovers
[00:46] <zizban> let me scroll up and see what you installed
[00:46] <zizban> Joker_77, ah yes
[00:46] <eiriksvin> is it possible to get gnome3 on 11.04?
[00:47] <LjL> eiriksvin: it's possible, but it will break Unity and quite possibly other things, and it's unsupported
[00:47] <geus> comthre3, you do have a static IP address?
[00:47] <comthre3> geus, yes
[00:48] <zizban> bull9408, you can try autoclean. sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:48] <geus> ports forwarded on router? Firewalls? firestarter/ufw?
[00:48] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: I managed to find the package and had to transfer it via usb to install it and it did but still no wifi.
[00:48] <comthre3> geus, all open, no firewall
[00:48] <Captainkrtek> Angelic, not sure, never had an issue like this :/
[00:48] <Angelic> Captainkrtek: It'll detect the wifi networks but the wifi networks come in greyed out.
[00:48] <bull9408> zizban, says it's unable to find package "autoclean"
[00:48] <eiriksvin> crap, is there anything else i can do for classic... other than be stuck with what little compiz offers?
[00:49] <geus> tried alternate ports? 16881-16891 instead of 6881-6891
[00:49] <quant> eiriksvin, what are you referring to as "classic"?
[00:49] <comthre3> geus, hmmm,, nop didnt try that, let me give it a whire!
[00:49] <comthre3> wait!!!
[00:49] <comthre3> it started working now!!!!!!! when i ran it as sudo it started downloading!
[00:49] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[00:50] <eiriksvin> Ubuntu (Classic Session) when you choose your session at the login creen at the bottom
[00:50] <geus> hmm, that's ermm not good
[00:50] <geus> shouldn't need root priviliges
[00:50] <zizban> bull9408, it's part of apt-get. it should just be "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[00:50] <geus> probably will work as "normal" user now too
[00:50] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[00:50] <comthre3> geus, i know,,, it was a hailmerry sorta thing and it worked.. let me check running as normal use
[00:51] <bull9408> zizban, ok, it ran... well, the command ran without errors.
[00:51] <eiriksvin> Angelic whats ur Wifi adapter, and what driver are you using?
[00:51] <bull9408> zizban, is that all there is to it?
[00:52] <gem_cat> I am under some kind of attack - I am watching it on tcpdump but do not know what to do about it
[00:52] <Fudge> does anybody know if it is possible to convert a powerpoint presentation to vcd
[00:52] <comthre3> geus, im getting "Couldn't open "/home/com3/.config/transmission/lock": Permission denied"
[00:52] <Angelic> erbngeek: Not sure, I just know its an IBM R32.
[00:52] <zizban> bull9408, yup so it found nothing. That was a long shot. Try uninstalling everything you installed, what you listed
[00:52] <geus> try removing your config files as root and fire up as normal user afterwards then I'd guess
[00:52] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Not sure I know its an IBM 32* not sure of the hardware
[00:52] <bull9408> ok
[00:53] <eiriksvin> ok are you using it through Wireless Windows Drivers?
[00:53] <geus> unless transmission is still running as root?
[00:53] <geus> tray?
[00:53] <eiriksvin> Angelic^
[00:54] <Angelic> eiriksvin: I think so.
[00:54] <multipass_> !bugs
[00:54] <eiriksvin> Angelic open it up, and the driver name will be in there
[00:54] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Through what command in terminal?
[00:56] <robin0800> Angelic, lspci and look for wireless adapter
[00:56] <eiriksvin> Angelic open ur terminal and type lsusb             <that will tell you what adapter you have
[00:56] <maryanne> Hey I just tried out a code to a site to reprogram it but it's locked; is there any other way to program an existing site?
[00:57] <Angelic> eiriksvin: Aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11b
[00:57] <eiriksvin> robin0800 lspci will only give you pci info, lsusb will give you usb info
[00:57] <maryanne> ok thanks
[00:57] <Mitchell|2> Can someone help me with something? I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 2005 intel mac mini, worked fine with 10.04... now I put in a KVM switch today, when I switch devices, a lot of the time, I have to reset the computer, it doesn't respond, it locks up.
[00:58] <maryanne> You might have virus
[00:58] <Mitchell|2> Me, maryanne?
[00:58] <eiriksvin> ok, take that online and google it to see if theres a way to get it to run native, thats the best:)
[00:59] <Angelic> eiriksvin: me?
[00:59] <maryanne> Hey I need some help I tried to use a code on a website to reprogram it but it's locked. Is there any other way to program an existing site?
[00:59] <eiriksvin> yeah, sorry:)
[01:00] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:00] <tjiggi_fo> !ot | maryanne
[01:00] <comthre3> geus, guess what! it just decided to work out of the blue! but thanks for your help :)
[01:00] <puff> Angelic: Usually it does that if the network in question isn't in range.
[01:01] <kernul> is there a way to disable my computer from sleeping when i close the lid in 11.04?
[01:01] <tensorpudding> kernul: yes, check out the power settings
[01:01]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 3rd May, 19:01:28)
[01:01] <kernul> tensorpudding: not blank the screen... do nothing
[01:01] <kernul> tensorpudding: using external display
[01:01] <gem_cat> someone help me overcome this stupid attack - :(
[01:01] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell ceed^`away about away
[01:01] <Angelic> puff: I am rigt under it.. I have one windows laptop working on it now (this one is it)
[01:01] <tensorpudding> kernul: what?
[01:01] <geus> comthre3, weird, sounded like your config files were owned by root but O.K. Cool I guess :)
[01:02] <maryanne> Is there a way to rename a computer after you've finished setting it up?
[01:02] <tensorpudding> kernul: you want video to keep going to the screen when you've closed the lid?
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: if i set blank screen it blanks the screen... no big deal right? but im using an external display
[01:02] <bastidrazor> !hostname | maryanne
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: it blanks that screen too...
[01:02] <tensorpudding> kernul: oh
[01:02] <tensorpudding> that's not supposed to happen, i don't think
[01:02] <maryanne> Ok thank you my cpu. name sucks
[01:02] <kernul> tensorpudding: ya i know... it didnt in 10
[01:03] <kernul> and i cant for the life of me get it to stop
[01:03] <tensorpudding> kernul: could be a bug then
[01:03] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:03] <comthre3> geus, you know whats weirder? tranmission autostarts so it cannot be owned by root., that doesnt make any sense, but its working cant complain :)
[01:03] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either
[01:03] <kernul> tensorpudding: shoulda stayed with 10 (= i seem to be having all sorts of issues
[01:03] <freezway> lspci finds my sound card, but alsa wont load
[01:04] <maryanne> I  need my computer debugged
[01:04] <geus> comthre3, but if you start it from terminal it doesn't display any errors?
[01:04] <kernul> tensorpudding: thanks for your help
[01:04] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:04] <freezway> maryanne, more specific please
[01:05] <maryanne> It keeps locking me from my downloads and saying stuff
[01:05] <robin0800> Angelic, what does the windows machine tell you about the adapter
[01:05] <dios_mio> can anyone address my problem --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/776451
[01:05] <maryanne> I keep getting messages
[01:05] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout.
[01:05] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:05] <freezway> maryanne, what messages
[01:06] <comthre3> geus, nopm starts normally
[01:06] <nutsfornatty> good day all
[01:06] <maryanne> codes and things to use to debug
[01:06] <xet7> nutsfornatty: good day :)
[01:06] <freezway> maryanne, please give us the messages. we cant do anything without knowing what the problem is
[01:06] <Angelic> Anyone knows a fix to wireless networks being greyed out in the wifi list?
[01:06] <geus> o.k. nothing to worry about then I guess
[01:06] <flodine> can someone tell me why unity desktop keeps locking up?
[01:07] <maryanne> hold on
[01:07] <Eyes_Only> Anyone here familiar with openbox and keyboard apping?
[01:07] <freezway> Angelic, please dont ask the same question 10x in a row. ask it and wait a little, reask if you must in a few minutes
[01:07] <Alec_> hey guys
[01:07] <eiriksvin> flodine check your graphics driver
[01:07] <Alec_> anyone here that i can ask a question?
[01:07] <freezway> !ask Alec_ \
[01:07] <freezway> !ask Alec_
[01:07] <freezway> !question Alec_
[01:07] <quant> !question | Alec_
[01:07] <LjL> Alec_: just ask it
[01:08] <freezway> quant, beat me to it
[01:08] <flodine> eiriksvin i just in stalled the basic on recomended
[01:08] <maryanne> just lost info
[01:08] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what wireless card do you have
[01:08] <eiriksvin> Angelic google it and see if u can run in Native
[01:08] <maryanne> have to go bye
[01:08] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11b
[01:09] <eiriksvin> flodine whats ur graphics card?
[01:09] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: wow thats some serious hardware, wht model
[01:09] <robin0800> Angelic, thats not enough info you need a product number
[01:09] <flodine> eiriksvin nvidia fx quadro
[01:10] <eiriksvin> heh.. thats why...
[01:10] <dios_mio> In keyboard layouts preferences there is the option where you can pick whether you want the new windows to get the active window's layout. This option is broken because whatever you pick it is always the rule that new windows get the active windows's layout.
[01:10] <flodine> what should i do
[01:10] <nutsfornatty> nvidia? hum, ati released new drivers for 11.04.. has nvidia done the same yet?
[01:10] <jwtiyar> how to use usb to alternate upgrade? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[01:10] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Doesn't say.
[01:11] <nutsfornatty> flodine: if, and only if, nvidia has released new 11.04 drivers you should use those
[01:11] <eiriksvin> flodine ok, heres what u do, ru in Natty now?
[01:11] <flodine> yes
[01:11] <Alec_> hey, so i have a macbook pro (first generation) or macbook pro 3,1. With the release of ubuntu 11.04 i got interested, and downloaded the 32 bit version. i burned it to a cd using disk utility with no problems, then popped it in and using rEFlt, booted into it. After showing the loading screen for 4=+ minutes, it showed three lines of errors. 1.(initramifs) can not moint /dev/loop0 (lcdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs 2.udevd [82]: wo
[01:11] <Alec_> [203] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 and 3. udevd [82]: worker [203] failed while handling '/devices/virtual/block/loop0'
[01:11] <robin0800> Angelic, your windows machine should know
[01:11] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: get the hardware id
[01:12] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:12] <eiriksvin> flodine Search for System Settings then inside there look for Additional Drivers
[01:12] <flodine> right
[01:12] <fizyplankton> i forget. how do i disable x? not just switch to a VT, but actually disable it?
[01:12] <eiriksvin> flodine use the nVIDIA 173 driver
[01:12] <jwtiyar> there is alternate USB to upgrade?
[01:13] <Eyes_Only> robin0800: cisco aironet is serious hardware, not a consumer/end user wireless solution
[01:13] <ngc604> Angelic, does it have a serial number or any kind of sticker on the back?
[01:13] <eiriksvin> flodine if its an option
[01:13] <flodine> ok thxs im doing it now and will reboot soon
[01:13] <freezway> fizyplankton, kill it? "sudo service gdm stop"
[01:13] <Alec_> Anyone?
[01:13] <fizyplankton> freezway: thx
[01:13] <robin0800> Eyes_Only, yes but she sayes its working now with windows
[01:13] <eiriksvin> flodine then youll be welcome to Natty:)
[01:14] <eiriksvin> flodine then get Compiz
[01:14] <root> hello
[01:14] <freezway> to keep it from starting edit /etc/rc.conf (may be init.conf or something, just remove gdm from the daemons list)
[01:14] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: edit the /etc/init/gdm.conf and comment out the lines beginning with "start on"
[01:14] <flodine> why compiz
[01:14] <bastidrazor> fizyplankton: in /etc/default/grub add 'text' to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=   ::this will boot you to a terminal login
[01:14] <eiriksvin> flodine trust me you will want that:)
[01:14] <Eyes_Only> robin0800: i gathered that, but someone with that kind of hardware should at least know what they are doing with it lol
[01:14] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: bastidrazor which one of yours do i do?
[01:15] <flodine> you got a command for the terminal for compiz
[01:15] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: doing service stop will stop it this time, but won't prevent it from running in the future
[01:15] <Angelic> robin0800: The system thats connected to the wifi network that the ubuntu machine has greyed out is right under the router so I am basically saying I don't understand why would it be greyed out.
[01:15] <Alec_> hey, so i have a macbook pro (first generation) or macbook pro 3,1. With the release of ubuntu 11.04 i got interested, and downloaded the 32 bit version. i burned it to a cd using disk utility with no problems, then popped it in and using rEFlt, booted into it. After showing the loading screen for 4=+ minutes, it showed three lines of errors. 1.(initramifs) can not moint /dev/loop0 (lcdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs 2.udevd [82]: wo
[01:15] <Alec_> [203] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 and 3. udevd [82]: worker [203] failed while handling '/devices/virtual/block/loop0'
[01:15] <chaospsyX> whats the command to see what kernel version i have installed ?
[01:15] <bruenig> chaospsyX: uname!
[01:15] <LjL> chaospsyX: uname -a
[01:15] <eiriksvin> flodine just use Applications>Search>Compiz
[01:15] <Kamakazi_> I think my upgrade is frozen at Configurin ltrace, is there anyway to stop the process?
[01:16] <bruenig> ctrl+c
[01:16] <ngc604> Angelic, do you have any numbers off that card?
[01:16] <bruenig> !
[01:16] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: actually, i might be better to change the "stop on runlevel [016]" line to "stop on runlevel [0126]"
[01:16] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what does dmesg | grep wi say
[01:16] <jwtiyar> any helpp?
[01:16] <Angelic> ngc604: http://hardware4linux.info/component/19645/ <--- is the only info I gather when looking it up.
[01:16] <flodine> its already installed
[01:17] <Angelic> ngc604: Otherwise there is no numbers on the back that I see on the hardware.
[01:17] <robin0800> Angelic, how is ubuntu connected?
[01:18] <Angelic> robin0800: It's usually connected through wifi, but as of the moment I am on another machine(Windows machine).
[01:18] <eiriksvin> Does anyone know how to get Regnum online to run in windowed mode?
[01:19] <Angelic> robin0800: It sees the wifi network in the area but its greyed out, and the network thats greyed out is currently connected to my windows machine so it can't be out of range.
[01:19] <KM0201> Angelic: open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and hit enter.. .loook through the output and find the wireless device, and tell us what it sayas
[01:19] <KM0201> oh wait.
[01:19] <KM0201> so it sees networks
[01:19] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:19] <Mitchell|2> Can someone help me with something? I'm using a KVM switch, and when I switch between computers, one that I just put 11.04 on doesn't respond.
[01:20] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what does dmesg | grep wl say?
[01:20] <eiriksvin> KM0201!! Hey buuuuuddy!
[01:20] <KM0201> eiriksvin: :)
[01:21] <ngc604> Eyes_Only, what makes airo so great?
[01:21] <Eyes_Only> can anyone help me with modifying my keyboard map?
[01:21] <fogobogo> sure
[01:21] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: tried a waterproof marker?
[01:21] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: what will the stop on run lever do?
[01:21] <OY1R> Q: anyone have an image of Windows XP i can download ?
[01:22] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: unfortunately yes :(
[01:22] <amit> Hi. Would appreciate advice on method for reading ubuntu's mailing list (currently subscribed, but rather read them off a feed, so as to not burden my mail client)
[01:22] <fogobogo> hmm
[01:22] <MustardCU> So I recently installed lxde (and it appears on ubuntu.com there is no lxde IRC channel) on my computer but I can't connect to the internet (and I can't even connect to lxde.org even on Gnome) I installed Wicd but the internet still wasn't working.  It did work fine on Gnome though.  Any ideas why?
[01:22] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: just prevent it from running on that runlevel
[01:22] <eiriksvin> KM0201 i have been telling Angelic to search google and try to run the usb adapter native if its possible, thats what i have to do to get rid of that, but i got a different adapter
[01:22] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: it's a bit of an annoying mix of system v and upstart
[01:22] <fizyplankton> tensorpudding: what is a runlevel?
[01:22] <OY1R> that or a WinPX preinstalled.vdi
[01:22] <georgie> how to Join IRC at <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> (SSL Only) Port 6697
[01:22] <OY1R> XP*
[01:22] <KM0201> eiriksvin: hmm.
[01:23] <georgie> they didnot mention the server name
[01:23] <bull9408> anybody have a clue why I can't get my internal microphone to hear anything
[01:23] <georgie> i've empathy,xchat and irssi has irc chat clients
[01:23] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: you don't really need to know about runlevels, but they are different configurations for the init program, which chooses what to start at boot
[01:23] <Eyes_Only> ngc604: airo is a professional networking solution, it isnt a standard belkin wireless thing you can pick up at wal-mart for $30
[01:23] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: it returns nothing back.
[01:24] <robin0800> bull9408, alsamixer in a terminal
[01:24] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: what about dmesg | grep wi
[01:24] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: ubuntu uses upstart, which replaces (to an extent) the old way of doing things involving runlevels, but it still have runlevels, it's just that people don't really mess with them anymore
[01:24] <ngc604> bull9408, system > preferences > sound > input and make sure the right intup is selected and it is not on mute
[01:24] <bull9408> ngc604, the correct input is selected, and not on mute
[01:24] <robin0800> Angelic, is it usb?
[01:24] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: one corresponds to a single-user mode, one to shutdown, and runlevel 2 is the one for normal activity in ubuntu
[01:24] <bull9408> but all i'm getting is static
[01:25] <OY1R> anyone ?
[01:25] <Angelic> robin0800: No.
[01:25] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: my issue isnt as simple as you might think, ive got a CR 48 and would like to have some of the keys do different things
[01:25] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: there's others that can be defined but nobody uses them
[01:25] <ngc604> bull9408, try robins idea of alsamixer.  didn't know that was there.  mic option is on the end
[01:25] <robin0800> Angelic, then lspci should find it
[01:26] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: why not just change the keys then
[01:26] <tensorpudding> fizyplankton: adding the 2 in that line just means that the gdm isn't run on runlevel 2, which is the default runlevel for multi-user, graphical mode
[01:26] <bull9408> ngc604, I'm playing with it now, didn't know it was there either
[01:26] <freezway> hey, i upgraded my heatsink and now sound doesnt work. I usually run arch but it doesnt work off the ubuntu 10.10 livecd either. lspci sees it, but on arch, alsaconf does not. output of "sudo alsa reload" here http://pastebin.com/dpDD226g
[01:26] <georgie> can somebody pls tell me how to " Join IRC at <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> (SSL Only) Port 6697".. its saying connection refused
[01:26] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: the screwdriver method might not work but there could be something in the system menu
[01:27] <Angelic> robin0800: It sees it, as the aironet wireless communications cisco aironet wireless 802.11
[01:27] <Angelic> when I do the lspci
[01:27] <amr_> How can I add the control bar windows after deleting Combez
[01:27] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: do you know what a CR48 is?
[01:27] <amr_> Compiz
[01:27] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: some crippletop
[01:27] <XerYuS> OY1R: How to auto mount partition in natty on bootup. Tried pysdm with no success. I have screenlets w/ shortcuts of folders on desktop that show up unlinked until mounted.
[01:27] <bull9408> ngc604, still nothing
[01:27] <bull9408> just less static
[01:28] <robin0800> Angelic, but thats not enough info you need a product number
[01:28] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: more like a browser in a box in its standard configuration
[01:28] <ngc604> bull9408, any vocal sound at all
[01:28] <MustardCU> So I recently installed lxde on my computer but I can't connect to the Internet (and I can't even connect to lxde.org even on Gnome) I installed Wicd but the Internet still wasn't working.  It did work fine on Gnome though.  Anyone know how to fix my problem?
[01:28] <Wvm> i updated to Mark_Shuttlecock 's ubuntu 11 cd and i get a black screen
[01:28] <bull9408> ngc604, no vocal sound what so ever
[01:28] <Wvm> what do i do?
[01:28] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: yeah. but what makes you think that has anything to do with ubuntu?
[01:29] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: im under the impression you at least hacked the box to install ubuntu. correct me if im wrong
[01:29] <ngc604> bull9408, did it ever work?  have you changed anything?  is the connection clean and finger oil free?
[01:29] <Cerda> XerYus: do you want to mount ntfs partition automaticaly on boot?
[01:29]  * eiriksvin says thats an awesome nick>> Douche has quit (Quit: Douche)
[01:29] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: if it still runs the google spyware i have no clue. maybe the browser settings?
[01:30] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: i flashed a new bios and installed crunchbang, the crunchbang channel is dead (whats new), and the solution should be similar in both ubuntu and #!
[01:30] <XerYuS> thnks... no, its a ext4 partition
[01:30] <Angelic> product: 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller
[01:30] <OY1R> nm got it..
[01:30] <bull9408> ngc604, it's an internal mic, and It worked under vista, I have just recently installed Ubuntu on this system, there was a hard drive failure, and this was easier th ian ins
[01:30] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: nope. not at all. lucky you i run openbox. get obkeys
[01:30] <bull9408> ngc604, than installing Vista and finding all of the drivers
[01:31] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: looking it up now, how flexible is obkeys?
[01:31] <Angelic> Eyes_Only:Product: 82801CAM (ICH3)
[01:31] <ngc604> bull9408, make sure the hardware tab has the right info under sound preferences
[01:31] <Eyes_Only> Angelic: intel chipset
[01:31] <Wvm> Mark_Shuttlecock:  ur new gnome thing is broken :(
[01:31] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:32] <bull9408> ngc604, already checked it, it's correct
[01:32] <bull9408> ngc604, my only other option is the HDMI output for hardware
[01:32] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Wvm: Unity 4 lyfe
[01:32] <Angelic> Eyes_Only: Intel Corporation: 82845 845 Brookdale
[01:32] <ngc604> bull9408, let me read up.  is it a laptop?
[01:33] <bull9408> ngc604, yes, Fujitsu Lifebook A series
[01:33] <robin0800> Angelic, 82801DB PRO/100 VE is erthnet not wirless?
[01:33] <Wvm> Mark_Shuttlecock:  unity?  is that the new gnome?
[01:33] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: well. its a gui for editing keybindings of the openbox wm. so its not flexible at all. but you have a gui
[01:33] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: you sissy
[01:34] <Angelic> robin0800: Try the 82801CAM (ICH3)
[01:34] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: whats with the hostility? you hurting my feelings :( i might cry
[01:35] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: ;D
[01:35] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: the real men's way would be to open ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml and edit your keybindings there manually
[01:35] <Angelic> serial: 00:d0:59:c8:99:0e
[01:35] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: unfortunately using a text editor is a dying art :/
[01:36] <madprops> real men use butterflies
[01:36] <fogobogo> or that
[01:36] <Wvm> eww butterflies.  microsoft uses those
[01:36] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: will i have to learn vi just to show you up? :P
[01:36] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:36] <Angelic> brb
[01:36] <Wvm> the wings fall off all the time and they crash
[01:37] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: definitely worth to learn vim but as a bloody beginner you might be better off using geany or gedit
[01:37] <robin0800> Angelic, 82801CAM (ICH3) thats an i/o hub
[01:37] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: because it has buttons and shit
[01:37]  * madprops loves geany
[01:37] <tensorpudding> i can't say it's worthwhile learning vi just to edit config files as an ubuntu user
[01:38] <chaospsyX> lol
[01:38] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: bout time someone with some stones showed up on this chat. congratulations, youve made my day
[01:38] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: youre welcome
[01:38]  * psusi can't say it is worthwhile learning vi at all... emacs is vastly superior ;)
[01:38] <ZekeS> NO
[01:38] <Eyes_Only> psusi: haha amen
[01:38] <tensorpudding> pre-emptively avoid flamewars
[01:39] <ZekeS> (besides, everyone knows that ed is the best, vi and emacs are bloat)
[01:39]  * psusi uses emacs as his OS ;)
[01:39] <Eyes_Only> psusi: hax
[01:39] <Wvm> emacs i herd of that before.  i had a friend that always talks about it.  he has rsi now
[01:39] <aeon-ltd> who the hell uses just vi anymore?
[01:39] <madprops> or emacs
[01:40] <sudokode> lol emacs
[01:40] <tensorpudding> ugh, too late
[01:40] <aeon-ltd> if you were gonna use vi at least use vim
[01:40] <ZekeS> aeon-ltd: I believe that's implied
[01:40] <psusi> Wvm, actually it kind of prevents rsi since you don't have ot muck about with that silly mouse all the time and generally avoid a great many keystrokes that would be neccesary in other editors
[01:41] <Wvm> i warned him about that alt key  i warned him dawg
[01:41] <puff> madprops: I use emacs.
[01:41] <puff> I'm typing this in emacs now :-).
[01:41] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Eyes_Only: I'd like to personally thank you for using Aboontoo
[01:41] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: who says im using aboontoo?
[01:41] <Mark_Shuttlecock> you are in this channel
[01:41] <puff> And always remember, "vi vi vi" == 666, ergo vi is clearly The Editor of The Beast.
[01:41] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: doesnt mean i use it
[01:42] <Wvm> satan knows what is up
[01:42] <sudokode> yes, rms is a great source of knowledge
[01:42] <sudokode> and toejam
[01:43] <ngc604> bull9408, you still here
[01:43] <Paolo_CT> Hello everyone
[01:43] <Paolo_CT> I been using Ubuntu since 8.04 and I was so happy to upgrade to 11.04, but after that is been just problems, I ....(lol, just had a weird behavior with empathy). Every time I use LibreOffice, my netbook with totally freeze (Not even able to change to a tti), and like five other bugs. Well after saying it, I dont know if I should go back to 10.10 or just wait (and stop using libreoffice :p)
[01:43] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:43] <Mark_Shuttlecock> Eyes_Only: my apologies sir
[01:43] <ngc604> bull9408, have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408506 looks promising
[01:44] <Eyes_Only> Mark_Shuttlecock: im just not terribly familiar with openbox is all, i been using crunchbang as of late. ive got an arch box with gnome which i hardly ever use
[01:44] <tepster> Paolo_CT: did you reinstall libreoffice?
[01:44] <bull9408> ngc604, I'm going to try that backports solution now, I'll let you know
[01:44] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: oh hai fellow archer
[01:44] <tensorpudding> Paolo_CT: try starting libreoffice from the terminal, and see if doing Control+c will kill the process
[01:44] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: :D greetings fine sir
[01:45] <fogobogo> :D
[01:45] <ngc604> bull9408, there is also the option in post #5 that you can try
[01:45] <sudokode> lol arch
[01:45] <sudokode> ubuntu is way simpler
[01:45] <tensorpudding> arch talk goes elsewhere, this is an ubuntu support channel
[01:45]  * psusi was having fun today running emacs in daemon mode on his server today and being able to disconnect and reconnect later to his open files, shells, and irc sessions running under emacs ;)
[01:45] <vorlov> have anybody tried analyzing apache2 coredumps before? i need some help figuring out what im seeing
[01:46] <bull9408> ngc604, it said it couldn't find the package when I tried backports solution
[01:46] <tensorpudding> vorlov: you might consider the apache channel
[01:46] <ZekeS> psusi: then why run linux at all :V
[01:46] <Paolo_CT> tepster: No, I just upgrade saturday, and been way to busy (The main reason I was unhappy with libreoffice was that It frozze will writting my tesis <,/ lost like an hour), I will try reinstalling
[01:46] <sudokode> psusi: wow, sounds like something you could do with tmux or screen
[01:46] <ZekeS> Given that, unless I misunderstood your statement, I can do the same damn thing with ssh and screen :p
[01:46]  * Wvm is a racoon and uses coonbuntu
[01:46] <sudokode> you could just skip that extra step of using emacs
[01:46] <flodine> can someone help me with my 11.04 keeps locking up
[01:46] <Eyes_Only> fogobogo: we could so totally start a flame war, but lets not
[01:46] <bull9408> ngc604, actually do I need to replace the 'uname -r' with something?
[01:47] <Wvm> now to fix black screen
[01:47] <Paolo_CT> This is weird, second time that happened (In empathy) will I write, and the line end, I cannot keep writting, and had to resize window to continue
[01:47] <fogobogo> Eyes_Only: way too easy :D
[01:47] <psusi> sudokode, screen lets you run multiple shells and disconnect... but not also edit files, get on irc, read info pages, and be able to copy/paste between them
[01:47] <Paolo_CT> I dont know if there is a lot of people having bugs, or might that be with my computer
[01:47] <trevorpace> Hey, I'm unable to adjust my brightness in 11.04. Is there a brightness application? Using a toshiba A103 laptop, never been able to adjust using the function keys.
[01:47] <Barridus_> hey guys, is there any way to remove/hide a program from the natty side-launcher?  i don't exactly need background stuff like mail-notifier showing up there
[01:47]  * ZekeS opens vim in one screen, weechat in a second, etc et etc
[01:48] <Paolo_CT> I have a Samsung Netbok
[01:48] <krafty> flodine pls expand on  "locking up" how, what is ur machine/u doing?
[01:48] <sudokode> psusi: it does if you use vim/nano, weechat/irssi, whatever you read info pages with, etc
[01:48] <histo> omfg
[01:48] <spotter> anyone aving consistent X lockups (but restartable) with Intel on natty?
[01:48] <psusi> sudokode, they don't share a common kill ring to copy/paste between, and you can't see what channels people have spoken to you in while you are looking at your info page or vim
[01:49] <bull9408> ngc604, I installed aumix, but now I can't get it to run, it says. "error opening mixer: No such file or directory"
[01:49] <tensorpudding> trevorpace: it's under Screensaver iirc
[01:49] <tensorpudding> trevorpace: err, wait, power management
[01:49] <sudokode> sounds like bloat
[01:49] <ngc604> bull9408, are you on 11.04
[01:49] <eje211> I upgraded to Natty, now the computer freezes at startup unless I use a session of type "Ubuntu safe mode". Which log should I look into to diagnose the issue? The freeze occurs both on Unity and on KDE, my default desktop.
[01:49] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:49] <krafty> lol
[01:49] <psusi> sudokode, if I'm editing a file in the top half of the screen while browsing the info page in the bottom half, I still see the channel name pop up in the info bar if someone speaks to me on irc
[01:49] <trevorpace> tensorpudding: Thanks, not exactly ideal but it works.
[01:50] <tepster> Paolo_CT: unity is rather buggy i'm finding
[01:50] <Paolo_CT> Other thing, I cant change between windows with ALT+TAB anymore, is there a way to change that to work again=
[01:50] <tensorpudding> eje211: does ubuntu classic work?
[01:50] <w30> Could someone with Natty check their login screen in control center and see if it offers unity as a choice rather than ubuntu?
[01:50] <sudokode> sounds like an easily remedied problem with a weechat script
[01:50] <tepster> Paolo_CT:  check under shortcuts in the control center
[01:50] <sudokode> I may look into that actually
[01:51] <sudokode> give me something to do
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: not in there
[01:51] <ZekeS> sudokode: weechat! <3
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: is this instead of, or in addition to, unity?
[01:51] <sudokode> :D
[01:51] <psusi> sudokode, then there's the common kill ring, which is quite handy for copying and pasting back and forth.. also iirc, screen doesn't give you scrollback buffers
[01:51] <tensorpudding> w30: err, ubuntu
[01:51] <kevn> Is there a quick way to make the XFCE4.8 menu similar to the fluxbox menu, in terms of the multiple sublevels
[01:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Oh, that is kinda good (Because is not just me), in the unity search thingy if I try to use tild ( example.  ó) I will get ´o
[01:51] <sudokode> o_O
[01:51] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'm not sure. I think I tried it and it didn't. I know KDE fails, even after I disabled compiz, so compiz is not the issue. I have direct rendering.
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> tepster: And I cant get a tild with any other combination
[01:52] <flodine> my desktop is locked up right now and its letting me typ only in xchat
[01:52] <flodine> i cant move nothing
[01:52] <tensorpudding> eje211: don't suppose you installed gnome 3 from a ppa or anything?
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Im really thinking of going back to 10.10, but I kinda like unity as a concept
[01:52] <Paolo_CT> :(
[01:52] <flodine> i tried both drivers
[01:52] <w30> tensorpudding, I can't get unity as default, I have to restart window manager after I log in
[01:52] <ngc604> bull9408, is the volume on the mic up at 100%
[01:52] <tensorpudding> flodine: i used to get that bug once in a while
[01:52] <eje211> This is the first time I've used Gnome at all. So far I've been faithful to KDE. So no.
[01:52] <tepster> Paolo_CT: I found that upgrading causes more bugs. When i do a new install, it was much more better
[01:52] <tensorpudding> flodine: does the windows key still bring up the launcher?
[01:53] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[01:53] <w30> tensorpudding, I have two ubuntu choices, actually 3
[01:53] <tensorpudding> eje211: it could be a bad mixing with kde and unity, but i doubt it
[01:53] <tepster> Paolo_CT: If you plan on going back, you might as well try a fresh install of 11.04 first
[01:53] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'm just wondering where to look for the cause. There must be a log file with the answer, but I'm not sure where to look.
[01:54] <ngc604> bull9408, maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651779 post #6.  just make sure to back up files before you edit them
[01:54] <tensorpudding> eje211: maybe /var/log/dmesg
[01:54] <tensorpudding> eje211: if it's a problem with drivers
[01:54] <eje211> tensorpudding: I looked, but found no error.
[01:54] <eje211> tensorpudding: Nothing obvious, at least.
[01:55] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Wow, this is annoying, empathy is not working right with my netbook resolution.
[01:55] <Paolo_CT> You have a good point, will try with a fresh install
[01:55] <tensorpudding> eje211: i don't know then, it's not likely to have been logged in another log
[01:56] <magn3ts> Does anyone have GNOME 3 working in Natty? Every time I try to install it, it blows up and wrecks all my DEs.
[01:56] <ngc604> bull9408, what does    lspci | grep Audio     get you?
[01:57] <tensorpudding> magn3ts: given that it requires different versions of important libraries to be installed, you probably can't do it
[01:57] <bull9408> ngc604, |spci| ?
[01:57] <eje211> tensorpudding: could this be it, it looks innocent enough: svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97)
[01:58] <tensorpudding> eje211: i think that's related to nfs?
[01:58] <mtelesha> upgraded my son's lenovo S12 from 10.10 to 11.04 no gmd just boots to background image and I can clt-alt-t a terminal. Can I redo the upgrade?
[01:58] <dios_mio> unity is messed up when I turn on wobbly windows in ccsm
[01:58] <Toph> hey dios_mio
[01:58] <dios_mio> hey toph!
[01:58] <tensorpudding> eje211: don't know why that would cause your problem
[01:59] <ngc604> bull9408, type lspci | grep Audio in terminal and paste the results
[01:59] <bull9408> dios_mio, it did the same thing for me. I think i ran          reset --unity         in the terminal
[01:59] <dios_mio> thanks bull
[02:00] <bull9408> ngc604, I thought that was a |spci| not lspci.
[02:00] <ngc604> bull9408, also,  under alsamixer hit f4 and make sure the input is on internal mic.  Does the mic 3.5mm headset plug option work?
[02:00] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: what's gmd?
[02:00] <eje211> tensorpudding: I'll continue investigating. Thanks.
[02:01] <bull9408> ngc604, lspci | grep audio gave no results
[02:01] <bull9408> and I don't have a mic to plug in to the 3.5 input
[02:01] <ngc604> bull9408, do you have sound comming from the speakers?
[02:01] <bull9408> ngc604, yes
[02:01] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: lspci = ls pci = lst pci
[02:02] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: list pci*
[02:02] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: is this on ubuntu or ubuntu classic session?
[02:02] <bull9408> Eyes_Only, i gotcha, I just read it as (pipe) spci (pipe) instead of an L at the beginning
[02:03] <Eyes_Only> bull9408: i always liked bash, it makes more sense to me :D
[02:03] <bull9408> yea, bash is what I always used.
[02:03] <bull9408> i've been on mac for a while though
[02:03] <mtelesha> gmd = gnome login manager where you type in your name and password
[02:03] <bull9408> my memory is a tad foggy
[02:03] <josvuk> Hi, how to find out which boot manager was used during booting?
[02:03] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: oh, gdm
[02:03] <tensorpudding> mtelesha: it doesn't show up?
[02:03] <Eyes_Only> mtelesha: gdm***
[02:03] <dios_mio> unity is retarded... no offense
[02:04] <tepster> i take offense :p
[02:04] <ngc604> bull9408, also, under alsamixer press f4 and make sure the input is internal mic
[02:04] <KM0201> dios_mio: not really.. just takes som getting used to.
[02:04] <dios_mio> :P
[02:04] <tensorpudding> dios_mio: watch the language, also take it elsewhere
[02:04] <Eyes_Only> tensorpudding: what language? :/
[02:05] <bull9408> ngc604, it is
[02:05] <acfrazier_> Alright. I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop PC, and all I get is a blinking cursor upon reboot. Same deal with both the LiveCD and alternate install CD
[02:05] <acfrazier_> How can I fix this?
[02:06] <ngc604> bull9408, try switching it to front mic then back to internal
[02:06] <bull9408> I did
[02:08] <andygraybeal_> i just booted 11.04 offa usb disk for a test run.  it didn't load the new interface automatically, is this expected?  in otherwords, do i have to install it onto my harddrive to see the new interface. ... or did my computer not work with the new interface and it reverted back to normal gnome?
[02:09] <andygraybeal_> i was looking forward to seeing the new interface after the big stink everyone has made about it.
[02:09] <tensorpudding> it's possible that it won't load in the default installer session
[02:09] <mdmkolbe> I understand that the blue triangle in the upper right corner means an application wants my attention, but how do I know which application?  (E.g. If I've come back to my computer an hour after the app asked for the attention)
[02:09] <Cerda> andrygraybeal_: unity loads on my hp netbook (intel card) but not on my desktop too (nvidia card)
[02:10] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, i got nvidia on my lenovo t410
[02:10] <tepster> andygraybeal: it has something to do with your video card
[02:10] <acfrazier_> how can I fix a blinking cursor upon reboot after a fresh install?
[02:10] <andygraybeal_> ah so on the outs with nvidia then?  i made a poor decision?
[02:10] <fogobogo> *pew* *pew*
[02:10] <tensorpudding> nvidia should work with unity fine if you have a modern card
[02:11] <Cerda> andygraybeal_ probably not, nvidia should be better but maybe it has something to do with the live system
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> tensorpudding, it's a pretty modern computer. we bought it last year, lenovo t410
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, aah okay the live system
[02:11] <Guest71831> can I use monodevelop with .NET 4 on Natty ?
[02:11] <Bobbyyyyy> cape can i use monodevelop with
[02:11] <andygraybeal_> thanks for helping me clear that up
[02:11] <fogobogo> Guest71831: try?
[02:11] <tepster> andygraybeal: i mean, it will revert to classic if it has problems with using your 3d card
[02:11] <tepster> I had no problem with unity using the cd
[02:11] <xsinick> there is problems with unity and NVIDIA driver
[02:12] <zenocon> hi, i just installed natty, and the menu bar at the top (that has network, battery info, etc.) has disappeared -- how to get it back?
[02:12] <andygraybeal_> tepster, okay cool.. i am sad i didn't get to see it! :(
[02:12] <tepster> and i have nvidia
[02:12] <Guest71831> fogobogo, i tryed, I got an error saying that .net 4 inst installed, the roadmap says that its implemented, but ubuntu version doesn't have it
[02:12] <andygraybeal_> tepster, how new is your machine??
[02:12] <tensorpudding> Guest71831: you'll have to check the version of mono that is included, and see if it supports .NET 4
[02:12] <tepster> andygraybeal_: i'd say pretty new..like within 2 years
[02:12] <xsinick> how do you add an icon a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:13] <andygraybeal_> tepster, yea, mines like a year old..... awww shucks
[02:13] <andygraybeal_> brand new from lenovo.. not refurb or anything
[02:13] <BlaDe^> is anyone around?
[02:13] <acfrazier_> Does my problem have something to do with ssd partition alignment?
[02:13] <fcuk112> is this still correct for natty?  http://www.taranfx.com/sync-iphone-linux
[02:13] <zenocon> just installed natty on samsung series 9 -- working pretty well so far
[02:13] <josvuk> I have no file named /etc/defaults/grub but the docs says grub is the default boot manager for lucid. What is wrong?
[02:13] <psusi> is anyone able to run the ubuntu livecds under qemu running on 11.04?  it seems totally fscked for me
[02:14] <Cerda> andygraybeal_ u probably get a nice 3d desktop with unity once you install
[02:14] <jrmcm> Is it possible to run gnome and kde side by side choosing which one to use at log in?
[02:14] <tepster> andygraybeal_: what kind of setup do you have? what card?
[02:14] <andygraybeal_> Cerda, awesome then.. i want to try it!  thank you for the advice.  tepster ... lemme bring up my nvidia softwaqre
[02:14] <xsinick> how do you add an icon a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:15] <acfrazier_> Alright. I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop PC, and all I get is a blinking cursor upon reboot. Same deal with both the LiveCD and alternate install CD. How to fix?
[02:15] <zenocon> ok, figured out answer to my own question -> alt+f2 gnome-panel
[02:15] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:15] <LittleRed> anyone install Natty to a laptop yet?
[02:15] <katana> good question
[02:15] <andygraybeal_> tepster, NVS 3100M, 16 CUDA cores, 256MB of RAM, 64bit memory interface
[02:15] <tepster> yes
[02:16] <zenocon> @LittleRed, i just installed it on samsung series 9
[02:16] <thegoodcushion> Good morning, gang
[02:16] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:16] <LittleRed> zenocon > did you have any video driver issues?
[02:16] <Paolo_CT> LittleRed: I install in a Samsung Netbook, but my experience wasnt good
[02:16] <katana> what gang ?
[02:16] <zenocon> no, worked great out of box
[02:16] <tepster> andygraybeal_: hmm...ya try an install, maybe an update has fixes the problem
[02:16] <tensorpudding> xsinick: a bunch of desktop files are put in /usr/share/applications, just copy them to your desktop
[02:16] <brad_> I just installed 11.04 and now my laptop won't connect to either of my wireless access points in the house. It doesn't list either of them.
[02:17] <zenocon> i had no install issues at all -- installed from USB stick since the laptop has no optical drive
[02:17] <Paolo_CT> Reinstall time, later all
[02:17] <tepster> good luck
[02:17] <Cerda> brad_ for my wireless work i needed to install the aditional drivers
[02:17] <zenocon> only issues i'm having are wrestling with compiz weirdness -- just not used to some of these changes
[02:17] <brad_> Cerda, I think the drivers for mine are already installed (ath5k for an atheros chip), but maybe I'm wrong?
[02:18] <josefig> I have a doubt,  when I turn on the machines all the scripts from /etc/init.d/ are executed ?
[02:18] <LittleRed> zenocon: when I upgraded to 10.11 I had problems with my nvidia card... so I'm a little afraid...
[02:18] <brad_> nm-tool shows wlan0 and everything, it just won't show any access points. iwlist scan brings up nothing
[02:19] <zenocon> i have had problems with the upgrades myself
[02:19] <LittleRed> anyone... is it possible to roll it back to previous version if the install hates me?
[02:19] <zenocon> i've always had better luck backing up my data, and doing a clean install to upgrade
[02:19] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
 I know a lot of people have upgraded to it, but I'm guess I'm waiting to see a known issues doc before I try it
[02:21] <JDuke128> hi , i'm having some problem , i want to develop some application that will run Linux first and then Linux runs some my custom code and boot windows back , is it possible ? if yes , how ?
[02:22] <josefig> If I want some service not start from the beginning what should I you ?
[02:22] <tepster> ya thats pretty slick laptop
[02:22] <xsinick> josefig:  you  have tyo be root to make a desktop shortcut
[02:22] <tepster> so thin
[02:23] <zenocon> SSD, boots to desktop in like 15-20s
[02:23] <tepster> SSD is uber
[02:23] <josefig> xsinick, I am a root, but I mean, I dont want mongodb starts at the beginning because I only use it to develop and sometimes I use it in only 2 projects.
[02:23] <Omega> LittleRed: backup and do a fresh install
[02:23] <tepster> wish I had ssd in all my machines
[02:24] <zenocon> me too...prices will come down soon
[02:24] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:24] <cornell> Hi...  I'm using chromium with ubuntu and of a sudden it seems every page has a banner complaining that adobe flash is out of date.  I'd've thought that the update manager would take care of that.  Anybody else experience this?
[02:24] <zenocon> xsinick - right click -> create launcher...
[02:25] <trism> josefig: is this on 11.04?
[02:25] <LittleRed> Omega: that's what I was thinking, but loading drivers is a pain... even though I'm getting good at it
[02:25] <xsinick> I'm on 11.04
[02:25] <xsinick> yes
[02:25] <xsinick> :(
[02:25] <Omega> LittleRed: loading drivers?
[02:26] <xsinick> how do you add a shortcut icon on the desktop of Natty Narwhal?
[02:26] <LittleRed> Omega: I have a nvidia cardd and I had to manually upgrade the driver with the last 2 releases
[02:26] <tensorpudding> xsinick: did you not read the message i sent you
[02:26] <zenocon> xsinick: i am using 11.04 too, just right click desktop, create launcher...  follow dialog
[02:27] <xsinick> tensorpudding:  yes but that does  work
[02:27] <Omega> LittleRed: Check if the LiveCD works, also you might want to file a bug about that
[02:27] <tensorpudding> xsinick: all the launchers that the launcher/menu/applications things use are in /usr/share/applications, choose which ones you want and copy them into the desktop
[02:27] <bull9408> how do I modify the notification area in 11.04?
[02:27] <josefig> trism, yes it is :)
[02:27] <xsinick> oop
[02:27] <xsinick> oops I see it
[02:28] <LittleRed> Omega: someone had filed a bug on it already, so I didn't bother.Never tried LiveCD
[02:28] <tensorpudding> xsinick: make sure you're copying them; the default is move, which won't work because you don't have permission to delete files from taht directory
[02:28] <trism> josefig: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/mongodb.override; that should do it, it should only start when you run: sudo service mongodb start;
[02:28] <zenocon> so, what is the official name of the launcher bar on the left side of the screen, and why does it behave so strange (i.e. auto-hides sometimes, sometimes not)
[02:28] <Omega> LittleRed: if the livecd works, you know that the drivers are fine
[02:28] <bull9408> how do I modify the notification area, and panels, in 11.04?
[02:28] <nutsfornatty> zenocon: that is unity, and you can change the settings using compiz settings manager
[02:28] <xsinick> tensorpudding:   thanks'
[02:29] <nutsfornatty> zenocon: that is window dodge, it will autohide on contact with an active window
[02:29] <josefig> trism, oh I see the mondgo flag manual should be the one, thank you.
[02:29] <wolf__> how can i install the bilut-in webcam on pidgin ??
[02:29] <tepster> zenocon: i thinkn it's just called launcher?
[02:29] <LittleRed> Omega: might try it this weekend. I have other machines I can use to surf to find fixes if needed
[02:29] <tepster> and you can change that behavior
[02:29] <bull9408> how do I modify the panels and notification area in 11.04?
[02:30] <Omega> LittleRed: Good luck, friend :)
[02:30] <wolf__> how can i install the bilut-in webcam on pidgin ??
[02:30] <LittleRed> Omega: thanks... only way to learn these things is to have them break  :-)
[02:30] <zenocon> i'm also seeing weird issue in natty.  if i mouse over window title bar, and click touchpad, i expect to be able to drag, but it won't.  i can drag if i double click title bar and move touchpad.  haven't figured out why yet
[02:30] <tepster> and if you install the compiz manager, you can make the launcher do all sorts of flashy things like giggle or flash.
[02:31] <zenocon> yea, i have ccsm installed, and messed with some things already
[02:31] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:32] <tepster> the only weird issue i had was using it with google chrome..sometimes it doesn't register that i have it open
[02:32] <nutsfornatty> same here @ tepster
[02:32] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:32] <zenocon> haven't installed chrome on this yet.  since ff4 came out, i'm happy with it
[02:32] <druciferre> Does anyone else have a Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 ?
[02:33] <xsinick> you should not have to go in the usr/ bin/ crap to get that stuff working
[02:34] <tepster> i think there's a broken record
[02:34] <nutsfornatty> will be a banned record soon enough
[02:34] <bigeye> In 11.04, where is the panel for tray icon?
[02:35] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, a window open that area will hide the bar, then you can go to the top left with your mouse or just to the left with delay loitering and it will open over the window that is incroaching n it's  territory
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, a window open that area will hide the bar, then you can go to the top left with your mouse or just to the left with delay loitering and it will open over the window that is incroaching n it's  territory
[02:35] <bigeye> I want to relaunch existing xchat window, but I can't. It is disappeared.
[02:35] <w30> zenocon, woops....
[02:36] <tepster> bigeye: not sure what you mean, but have you tried alt-tab?
[02:36] <zenocon> in compiz -- key bindings might have something like <Alt>KP7 for example, what's KP, i'm guessing short for Key Pad?  what if yer on laptop -- guess have to re-bind that to something else
[02:36] <zenocon> bigeye: try <Alt><Tab> to nav through open applications
[02:37] <LittleRed> Ah there is a kow issue with the nvidia card drivers... have to install a package before the last reboot to resolve it
[02:37] <bigeye> zenocon: tepster: Yes, I did. Maybe xchat window goes to background after closing. so [Alt][Tab] doesn't work..
[02:37] <LittleRed> known*
[02:37] <bull9408> anybody have any idea how to modify the panel, add applets and such, in 11.04??
[02:38] <xsinick> nutsfornatty: linux is about freedom of speech
[02:38] <tepster> bigeye: oh you mean it's minimized?
 easy
[02:38] <Cerda> is there a way in nautilus to assign Libraries like in windows 7 ???
[02:38] <zenocon> if you have compiz enabled, there are lots of other plugins that can do similar.   In previous ubuntu, xchat window went to tray when I closed window.
[02:42] <LittleRed> bull9408: how did you upgrade it?
[02:42] <trism> bull9408: the notification area is still there though, but most apps are blacklisted by default, you need to add apps to the whitelist for them to appear
[02:42] <bull9408> trism, yea, i just saw it.
[02:42] <Thedemon007> Hello
 uh what is wrong?
[02:42] <bull9408> LittleRed, due to a bunch of completely unrelated issues, I acutally installed a new hard drive today, and in the process installed 11.04
[02:42] <bigeye> tepster: But I can't find tray bar in 11.04..
[02:42] <Thedemon007> How do I update my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 from an iso or live usb?
hi
[02:43] <LittleRed> bull9408: did you use LiveCD?
[02:43] <Dryfyre> Hey does anyone use 10.04 and have problems with webcam, compaq mini 110 is my pc
[02:43] <anthonyl> to much to say, freezes on startup
[02:43] <tepster> bigeye: oh. i'm not sure. im not using 11.04 at this time
[02:43] <bull9408> LittleRed, yes.
[02:43] <anthonyl> did you add evil to the distribution when you were packaging it this time?
[02:43] <anthonyl> or just fail
[02:43] <anthonyl> <3
[02:43] <zenocon> bigeye: try <Alt><F2> -> gnome-panel
[02:43] <bull9408> LittleRed, well, I used A live CD, i'm not sure if you are reffering to a specific program
[02:43] <LucyIntheSky> just updated to natty and my panels are transparent, panel settings shows nothing about transparency...
[02:43] <anthonyl> anyway now i've got to install windows all night it's very lame
be careful if you have gnome3 or anything like that you dont want to update
[02:43] <fogobogo> dunno. i just use arch
[02:44] <LittleRed> bull9408: what kind of laptop... no liveCD was what I'm looking for...
[02:44] <dagon> how do i get advanced
[02:44] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, have you checked ccsm under the Ubuntu Unity settings>experimental>panel transperancy
[02:44] <fogobogo> anthonyl: intel gpu?
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. My GUI is busted. I removed KDM, because it randomly started popping up in place of GDM, and only a Kubuntu session would start, regardless of sessions selected.
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> Any ideas?
[02:44] <anthonyl> nvidia
[02:44] <fogobogo> hhmm
[02:44] <bull9408> LittleRed, I have a Fujitsu with a 64 bit Intel processor, what do you have? how weren't any of them what you were looking for?
[02:44] <Thedemon007> create a live usb of ubuntu 11.04 from the creator of ubuntu 10.10 but to run it it not gives me the option to upgrade my ubuntu 10.10
[02:45] <anthonyl> its stuck on TiMidity start actually
[02:45] <fogobogo> anthonyl: oh. if thats all
[02:45] <LittleRed> bull9408: I have a 64 bit Sony...
use the 173 driver if your having freezing ussues
[02:45] <anthonyl> is there a solution?
[02:45] <anthonyl> she may love me again if i fix it
[02:45] <tepster> anthonyl: nvidia RIVA or Vanta?
[02:45] <fogobogo> anthonyl: sure. just switch the runlevel and disable it
[02:45] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, I see no experimental category
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> when I run startx the gui starts, but its like running ubuntu with Unity removed
[02:45] <ozfalcon> How do i remove env variables permantly? I can unset them, But when I log back in they are back. I can't find any location they are set in .bashrc or local home. Does not set for a different user. So is user related.
[02:45] <anthonyl> groann
[02:45] <bull9408> LittleRed, just download Ubuntu 11.04 for 64 bit operating system, mount the .iso to a CD, and voila.
[02:46] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, it should be a tab.
[02:46] <tepster> I'm guessing it's an nvidia Riva TNT
[02:46] <LittleRed> Bull9408: I have always just upgraed from the update manager, so I was looking for people who used the CD to do the update...
[02:46] <fogobogo> anthonyl: timidity is just a crappy software midi card anyway
[02:46] <bull9408> LittleRed, i didn't update through CD, was a fresh install, I think I updated from a CD a longg time ago, not sure though.
[02:46] <anthonyl> it looks like I was once again wrong to blame someone else for my problems
[02:46] <dagon> this latest version is absolute garbage
[02:46] <anthonyl> but..
[02:46] <pattysmatty> how do we know that evolution mail isn't malware
[02:46] <anthonyl> that won't stop me from doing it again
[02:46] <LittleRed> bull9408: that makes sense with the new hard drive
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> is there a way I can specify which session to use with the "startx" command?
[02:47] <anthonyl> is there a TiMidity i can vent on?
[02:47] <bull9408> LittleRed, yup, I still haven't upgraded my other systems yet though.
[02:47] <pattysmatty> econdudeawesome, i thnk 7 or 8 is good
[02:47] <sary> Thedemon007:thats how you make a fresh install , you can upgrade from-in ubuntu 10.10.
[02:47] <dagon> wtf i can scribble code with a crayon on a Denny's napkin that would run better
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> pattysmatty: what?
[02:47] <LittleRed> bull9408: think I'm going to try my desktop first.... I can't live without my laptop for very long
[02:47] <jrib> econdudeawesome: didn't you ask this yesterday?  And I suggested you setup your ~/.xinitrc?  What's wrong with that?
[02:47] <fogobogo> anthonyl: should be
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: different computer, different situation
[02:48] <anthonyl> I'm going to to take a picture of my girlfriend , find their mailing list
[02:48] <fogobogo> anthonyl: however, i suspect it to be a ubuntu packaging bug
[02:48] <anthonyl> and put..
 go to additional drivers and switch to 173, trust me its nVIDIA acting up
[02:48] <anthonyl> "This girl now hates you
[02:48] <pattysmatty> econdudeawesome, nvm i thought tty
[02:48] <anthonyl> "
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I set up the ~/,xinitrc just fine for that computer
[02:48] <jrib> econdudeawesome: ok, ignore the first question... why can't you use ~/.xinitrc?
[02:48] <zenocon> what is up with ubuntu software center; try to install skype, "available from natty-partner source", button: Use This Source, click...nada.  doesn't work, can't install.  have to go add sources manually?
[02:48] <anthonyl> oh!
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> pattysmatty: all good
[02:48] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, sorry Guess im on xfce, do you know how I can make it normal again
[02:48] <nutsfornatty> 11.04 making too many people rage in chat :(
[02:48] <snail> anyone understand fonts? what fontdo i need for http://www.signbank.org/swis/iswa/cat_1.html ?
[02:48] <pattysmatty> how do we know evolution mail doesn't steal your email accounts etc?
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> jrib: not sure--my gdm disappeared (I was using it on this computer).
[02:48] <Thedemon007> I don't want to do a new installation sary
[02:48] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, make what normal?
[02:48] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> hey boys
[02:48] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so you want to use gdm?
[02:49] <Paolo_CT> Wow, definetly, I needed a fresh install, now almost every bug I was having is gonne (Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 gave me way to many bugs)
[02:49] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I would LOVE to use GDM :-)
[02:49] <Thedemon007> As does the installer to detect that I have installed ubuntu 10.10?
[02:49] <jrib> econdudeawesome: what happens when you execute « sudo service gdm start »?
[02:49] <tepster> Paolo_CT: good to hear!
[02:50] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, my panels
[02:50] <shcherbak> pattysmatty: There is source to read, you can compile yourself if you wish. Idea of open source is that it is open to read and modify.
[02:50] <sparrW> How can I get a taskbar or move the dock to the bottom and un-autohide it in 11.04?
[02:50] <nutsfornatty> thedemon007: the installer will detect your OSs. in case if 10.10 you have the option to upgrade
[02:50] <tom11> sorry quick/dumb question...I'm upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 and got the question "what do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"....i dual boot with windows 7 so can i just keep my local version? thanks
[02:50] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, are you still running 10.10
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> any1 want 2 cyber
[02:50] <sary> Thedemon007: Alright, then  for more information on how to upgrade
[02:50] <Thedemon007> may not detect it because I have archlinux and this governs the mbr and grub
[02:50] <Paolo_CT> tepster: THe ALT+TAB works, the problems with empathy are gonne, but I still got a problem with the tild in the unity search
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> who wants to cyberfuck my tight cunt?
[02:50] <sary> Thedemon007: yes i does.
[02:50] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> yeaaaaa
[02:50] <econdudeawesome> jrib: it starts gdm :-D
[02:50] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, no upgraded to natty
[02:50] <pattysmatty> shcherbak, how do we know that the packages aren't corrupt
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: Anyway, now I will install, Im running it in test mode
[02:51] <shcherbak> AliciaTheBunnyRa: Wrong channel?
[02:51] <tepster> Paolo_CT: Hmm..I havent tried that..i'm not on ubuntu right now
[02:51] <sary> !upgrade | Thedemon007
[02:51] <dagon> this release is a waste of time
[02:51] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, what exactly is wrong with the panels?
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: how do I ensure this works the next time I reboot?
[02:51] <AliciaTheBunnyRa> k shcherbak thanks for ruining the mood
[02:51] <LucyIntheSky> they are both transparent even though I told it not to touch my config
[02:51] <dagon> Ubuntu I'm very dissapointed
[02:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: did gdm ever start?
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> jrib: yes
[02:51] <trism> sparrW: you can disable launcher hiding in compizconfig-settings-manager under the unity plugin, you probably can't move it easily
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> tepster: I will go ask in ubuntu-es about the tild bug
[02:51] <nutsfornatty> dagon: this release is very usable if you take the time to learn how to 1) use fullscreen apps and 2) use keyboard shortcuts. I love it.
[02:51] <Paolo_CT> dagon: why=
[02:51] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, I wish I could tell you how, but it did the same to me, I suppose they removed all Gnome panels, so I don't have any of mine anymore
[02:51] <jrib> econdudeawesome: do you have any idea what changed when it stopped starting?
[02:52] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky, it kinda $*(@)%) me off...
[02:52] <rfxcasey_> Hello, I installed sensors with sudo apt-get iinstall lm-sensors. After installing I run sudo sensors-detect and after letting it run and telling it yes to all sensor scans the summary says Driver 'via686': * Chip 'VIA VT82c686 Integrated Sensors' (confidence: 9)
[02:52] <econdudeawesome> jrib: my wife did something, but I'm not sure what. According to her, she plugged in her ipod before she started the computer, and it went to KDM
[02:52] <LucyIntheSky> bull9408, im on xfce not gnome.
[02:52] <eiriksvin> i think that when they bumped Gnome3 they shouldnt have, they should have worked it so you could load either one
[02:52] <bigeye> tepster, zenocon: It works! Thanks :)
[02:52] <nutsfornatty> you can boot into classic ubuntu (login screen -> look at lower menu -> change "ubuntu" to "classic ubuntu" -> login)
[02:53] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so kdm starts now?
[02:53] <shcherbak> pattysmatty: There is source of package on ubuntu website, you can *really* buildit yourself, also ngrep, iptables and more tools can help you monitor data exchnage over netwoks
[02:53] <bull9408> LucyIntheSky... hmm... I'm not sure what the terminal command is for that, sorry
[02:53] <nutsfornatty> if you believe unity to be flawed, dont use it and instead boot to classic (and enjoy your panels etc)
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I removed kdm and kdebase-bin, figuring it would give me the option to choose gdm (also purged the two packages)
[02:53] <pattysmatty> shcherbak, cool that makes me feel better
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I haven
[02:53] <fogobogo> xfce4 is pretty good these days...
[02:53] <econdudeawesome> jrib: I haven't used KDE in months, and figured it wouldn't hurt to remove (though I typically do so in synaptic)
[02:54] <jrib> econdudeawesome: so what happens now when you boot?
[02:54] <dagon> learn me how to get advanced features for my compiz
[02:54] <tom11> do i have to install package maintainer's version of grub when upgrading to 11.04? will that mess up my win 7 dual boot? thanks
[02:54] <eiriksvin> dagon im looking to do the same thing
[02:54] <tepster> what sort of advance features are you looking for
[02:54] <jrib> tom11: view the differences and decide
[02:54] <econdudeawesome> jrib: well, now that I started the gdm service, I'm not sure. Before I did that, it would boot up to "battery state" notification, and then hang (I've seen it do that on the computer I set up for text login yesterday, so I knew I could tty at least)
[02:55] <dagon> bah why would they take that out
[02:55] <dagon> rediculas
[02:55] <econdudeawesome> jrib: but beginning the gdm service allowed me to log in as normal
[02:55] <magpii> i just had my system upgrade to 11. something, can someone show me how to get compiz back on? all my desktop settings are reset
[02:55] <dagon> and this unity thing should be called headache
[02:55] <econdudeawesome> jrib: should I reboot and see if hte issue is fixed?
[02:56] <dagon> I hope for the love of god Ubuntu is not selling out
[02:56] <jrib> econdudeawesome: sure, you may want to check /etc/X11/default-display-manager first though
[02:56] <tepster> dagon: install ccsm
[02:56] <econdudeawesome> jrib: is this a file or a folder?
[02:56] <dagon> it is installed
[02:56] <dagon> tepster,
[02:56] <LittleRed> dagon: what makes you think that?
[02:56] <jrib> econdudeawesome: file
[02:56] <tepster> can't you access the features?
[02:57] <dagon> why the heck is it gone
[02:57] <aj00200> I have 2 things I need help with. 1) My system has been extremely unstable after the 11.04 update including 6 crashes in about 5 hours today (where the screen freezes and the caps lock light blinks). 2) After restarting after my latest crash, the latest kernel image (It crashed somewhere during the install, I restarted and completed the install without errors) causes my screen to blink during startup and not boot completely. An
[02:57] <econdudeawesome> jrib: done. Changed to GDM. I'll restart and see what happens--I may be back. Thanks much for your expert advice
[02:57] <tom11> jrib: sorry i'm not sure how to interpret the differences...http://paste.ubuntu.com/603070/
[02:58] <jrib> tom11: go with the new version, the only significant change is that an option seems to have been renamed
[02:58] <Fireblasto> Hi, I've recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook, and I am liking the new user interface, especially on my smaller screen. However, is there any way of changing the panel's position at the top to the bottom?
[02:58] <zenocon> digging the move, resize, snap compiz plugins.  so much more efficient that mac os
[02:59] <jrib> tom11: and it's commented anyway :)
[02:59] <tom11> jrib: ha okay thanks for your help
[03:00] <tom11> jrib: when i went from 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10 i royally messed up grub so just a little skiddish this time
[03:00] <zenocon> last time i tried cube rotate, it went berzerk-o.  scared to try it again, but i want that
[03:00] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get more plugins for compiz?
[03:00] <econdudeawesome> jrib: success. Thanks man
[03:00] <dagon> anyone know how to get adavanced or is it totally gone
[03:00] <eiriksvin> i want to make my windows have that glow around the
[03:00] <eiriksvin> ouside
[03:01] <zenocon> glow?
[03:01] <shcherbak> eiriksvin: PPA (some extra stuff, grid etc.)
[03:01] <zenocon> i think there is one that lights your window on fire
[03:01] <eiriksvin> 'how?
[03:02] <shcherbak> eiriksvin: You need to look for "extra compiz plugins ubuntu", PPA have instuctions how to add repos and what to install.
[03:02] <shcherbak> !ppa > eiriksvin
[03:02] <eiriksvin> thanx
[03:03] <Hello> Any good programs for Ubuntu
[03:03] <LAcan> how can I check if SSH is active and listening?
[03:03] <shcherbak> Hello: Yes, many.
[03:03] <shcherbak> LAcan: sudo netstat -tulp
[03:03] <zenocon> Hello: try troll-hunter
[03:03] <Hello> like which?
[03:03] <anthonyl> hey
[03:03] <neon___> WOW!! what the hell they were thinking when they developed the latest ubuntu
[03:03] <anthonyl> my girlfriend still wants me to give you guys a hardtime
[03:04] <Hello> Ok I am using windows but my Ubuntu desktop is by me
[03:04] <anthonyl> dear ubuntu: 8[03:04] <anthonyl> lets make untested releases durring finals at most schools in the usa herp derp herp herp
[03:04] <anthonyl> well not untested, just buggy
[03:04] <anthonyl> ok gtg!
[03:05] <anthonyl> again i'm fine with it..etc i'm just taking orders
[03:05] <anthonyl> <3
[03:05] <xiaoji> I have a question..why can't I succeed to install the gnome3 at 11.04?IT always  collapse
[03:05] <LAcan> shcherbak, and if I dont see ssh or 22 then I can assume its not running?
[03:05] <tepster> is it a full moon in here tonight?
[03:06] <shcherbak> LAcan: most likely, sudo srvice ssh restart
[03:06] <tjiggi_fo> !gnome3 | xiaoji
[03:07] <neon___> i feel like an 85 year old granma that needs big buttons for everything when using the latest ubuntu
[03:07] <LAcan> shcherbak, i get 'unknown service: ssh'
[03:08] <Fireblasto> Hi, I've recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook, and I am liking the new user interface, especially on my smaller screen. However, is there any way of changing the panel's position at the top to the bottom?
[03:08] <LAcan> shcherbak, sorry "ssh: unrecognized service"
[03:08] <LAcan> Fireblasto, right click the panel, properties
[03:08] <shcherbak> LAcan: try: cat /etc/ssh/sshd.config , if it do not exist install openssh-server
[03:08] <xiaoji> Thanks very much.you mean that in recently days,I'd matter not install the gnome3?but unity is not fit my habits
[03:09] <LAcan> oooohhh openssh-server i dont think is installed
[03:09] <anthonyl> next time time the updates to not  interfere with finals! -----my girlfriend says this.
[03:09] <neon___> unity is a joke
[03:09] <xiaoji> why?
[03:09]  * cheapie is accepring support requests
[03:09] <neon___> what moron came up with that interface
[03:09] <Fireblasto> LAcan, I've tried the original method of how you would sort the panel positions, but when I right click the panel, there is no menu popping up. I'm using the new unity interface.
[03:10] <todd2> need some help with wifi problems on Dell Inspiron 1501
[03:10] <cheapie> Fireblasto: That is not yet implemented in Unity.
[03:10] <aj00200> I have 2 things I need help with. First, my system has been rather unstable after the 11.04 update and crashes (screen freeze with a blinking Caps Lock light). Any ideas on how to troubble shoot that or file a bug report>
[03:10] <cheapie> todd2: What's wrong?
[03:10] <tjiggi_fo> xiaoji, wait till it's out of the experimental stage
[03:10] <todd2> cheapie: upgraded and now my wifi is turned "off"
[03:11] <cornell> Thanks all, TTFN
[03:11] <cheapie> todd2: As in you can't turn it on at all?
[03:11] <Fireblasto> cheapie, well that just sucks then, I'm really digging the new interface but certain aspects are really letting me down.
[03:11] <neon___> we suppose to move forward and this latest update seems to take us back to the 80's
[03:11] <slinger2519> Hey can I get some help hacking the bios of a Dell latitude 2110 so I change the boot sequence
[03:11] <todd2> cheapie: no, try running some code last night to "activate STA", but didn't work
[03:11] <cheapie> Fireblasto: Unity is under heavy development. It's about 6 monts old.
[03:11] <neon___> unity is a joke
[03:11] <cheapie> todd2: Can you upload the output of ifconfig to pastebin?
[03:12] <doc-saintly> What is the default key to scroll up/down in a screen in ubuntu?
[03:12] <Fireblasto> cheapie, yeah, hopefully it will be made better!
[03:12] <cheapie> neon___: ...you can stop now...
[03:12] <LAcan> shcherbak, success!
[03:12] <QuikNik> Hey guys, am I not supposed to have a '/boot/grub/menu.lst' file that I can use for updating my grub menu?  I'm trying to get my install of 11.04 to boot the older kernel.. as my system doesn't like the 2.6.38 kernel.  It's listed in previous versions, but I need to change grub to default to it
[03:12] <QuikNik> any ideas?
[03:12] <todd2> cheapie: remind me how pastebin works?  Haven't done it in a long while
[03:12] <neon___> i'm just venting, cause we can do better
[03:12] <cheapie> QuikNik: Grub2 uses grub.cfg
[03:13] <shcherbak> neon___: You *really* do not have to use it, but some people spent time on it, so...
[03:13] <cheapie> !pastebin | todd2
[03:13] <edbian> QuikNik: /etc/default/grub
[03:13] <QuikNik> cheapie: D'oh... thanks
[03:13] <neon___> how we suppose to reach the masses when we released stuff like this
[03:13] <Fireblasto> doc-saintly, the normal keys used are the up and down arrows? Just like windows.
[03:13] <bazhang> neon___, venting in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[03:13] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: You change settings in /etc/default/grub.
[03:14] <QuikNik> Jordan_U, edbian: Gotcha, thanks
[03:14] <LAcan> ohffs
[03:14] <edbian> QuikNik: sure :)
[03:15] <doc-saintly> Fireblasto: when i'm in... well, mid sentence i decided  to double check and it works :S, thanks!
[03:15] <cheapie> What ever happened to todd2?
[03:15] <todd2> cheapie: here's my ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/603075/
[03:15]  * LAcan needs help with VNC bad..SSH is working, I can get a terminal (PuTTY) but TightVNC on Vista always returns "Server did not offer supported security type!" HELP!
[03:15] <shcherbak> LAcan: ohffs?
[03:15] <xiaoji> can I download a deb package form a website?
[03:15] <tepster> I like the launchbar thing actually, neon___
[03:15] <LAcan> shcherbak, see above
[03:15] <xiaoji> em.. gnome3 deb package
[03:15] <LAcan> shcherbak, i cant get VNC to work :(
[03:16] <cheapie> todd2: OK. Try running 'lspci | grep wireless' and see if that returns anything.
[03:16] <tepster> a lot of people love unity
[03:16] <Aren> When I was on ubuntu hardy, I had no problems whatsoever.  Upgrading to 10.10 my wifi card started acting screwy...randomly disconnecting.  Now on 11.04 it barely stays on for more than a minute at a time before cutting out.  My laptop is a gateway T-1625, and I'm not finding anything through google that has helped me so far, and I really don't want to go back down to hardy just to get a solid wireless connection again.  Can someone he
[03:16] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: Since Ubuntu now puts menu entries in a submenu, here is the documentation for specifying an entry within a submenu in /etc/default/grub : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#default
[03:16] <Aren> slow compared to the onboard wifi. :(
[03:16] <todd2> cheapie:  did not return anything
[03:16] <Fireblasto> doc-saintly :) If you are using a IRC client though, the up and down arrows actually select the lines that you already posted. Additionally, you can use the page up and page down keys for greater distances
[03:16] <PatoVW> hi, im trying to update from 10.10 to 11.04 booting from live usb, but it doesnt show the update option
[03:17] <QuikNik> Jordan_U: Great, thank you!
[03:17] <cheapie> todd2: Do you know what chip your wireless card/stick/whatever uses?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> QuikNik: You're welcome.
[03:17] <shcherbak> LAcan: ssh and vnc are two different services, they can be connected (somehow), vnc have some compatibilities win M$, but not every version.
[03:18] <Jordan_U> PatoVW: There is no upgrade option on the live install media. Just use update manager in your booted 10.10 system.
[03:18] <AlexGer> helo, i need your help please
[03:18] <variable> AlexGer: don't ask to ask; just ask
[03:18] <LAcan> shcherbak, ya looking thru the ubuntu wiki here it says u have to have SSH tunnel first, which i have and is working...
[03:18] <xiaoji> into the live cd  interface.. you will find a program to upgrade
[03:18] <todd2> cheapie: can't tell you what chip, but it's a Broadcom STA driver for Broadcom 4311
[03:18] <genjix> sudo do-release-upgrade says 'No new release found'... I've done apt-get update but still not working
[03:18] <eiriksvin> how do i take screen video with ubuntu?
[03:19] <AlexGer> i didn't realy asked to ask :-)
[03:19] <genjix> using Lynx
[03:19] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | genjix
[03:19] <AlexGer> i installed ubuntu in english to tell you the correct error message:
[03:19] <cheapie> todd2: OK. Can you run lsmod and upload that to pastebin?
[03:19] <PatoVW> ok, but is there a way to use the download cd to update or I just have to do it from internet
[03:19] <edbian> todd2: cheapie sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[03:19] <Aren> I asked immediately, rather than asking to ask, and it just feels like I'm getting ignored. *shrugs*
[03:19] <AlexGer> [!]Install the base System
[03:19] <shcherbak> LAcan: Hm, with vnc i cannot be much of help.
[03:19] <AlexGer> No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources.
[03:19] <LAcan> shcherbak, ok thanks for the help with SSH
[03:19] <AlexGer> You may try to continue without a kernel, and manually install your own kernel Later.
[03:19] <todd2> edbian:  did that last night... nada
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Aren: You're not being ignored. If nobody knows the answer then nobody will answer you.
[03:20] <edbian> todd2: cheapie Did you have a plan of action?
[03:20] <genjix> Jordan_U: i do what it says in the guide but it's not upgrading
[03:20] <AlexGer> This is only recommended for experts, otherwise you will likely end up with a machine that doesn#t boot.
[03:20] <AlexGer> Continue without installing a kernel? <Go Back> <Yes> <No>
[03:20] <AlexGer> that's my problem
[03:20] <xiaoji> wow~,so many people..  i cant glimpse the latest speake
[03:20] <AlexGer> :-9
[03:21] <Zombiedeadshot> hello i have a advanced question about the live cd's can some one help?
[03:21] <uRock> what folder are installed .deb files stored in?
[03:21] <eiriksvin> how do i take screen video with ubuntu?
[03:21] <uRock> Zombiedeadshot, just ask
[03:21] <cheapie> todd2: Here we go. 'sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common' might fix it.
[03:21] <todd2> cheapie:  here's the lsmod http://paste.ubuntu.com/603076/
[03:21] <AlexGer> Zombiedeadshot sudo updatedb
[03:21] <Jordan_U> genjix: Can you pastebin the contents of  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades?
[03:21] <AlexGer> Zombiedeadshot locate *.deb
[03:22] <julian_c> eiriksvin: Best bet would be recordmydesktop (with the gtk-recordmydesktop front-end).
[03:22] <cheapie> todd2: OK, yeah, try 'sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common'
[03:22] <shcherbak> uRock: locate *.deb or /var/cache/apt/
[03:22] <eiriksvin> how do i go abaout getting that?
[03:22] <mnouh_> Hello, I'm having an issue when I installed clang, I did apt-get install clang and when I run clang, its giving me : main.cpp:1:10: fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
[03:22] <mnouh_> #include <iostream>
[03:22] <mnouh_>          ^
[03:22] <mnouh_> 1 error generated.
[03:22] <Zombiedeadshot> im tired of configueing my crunchbang installzation so i want to know a way i can take the live cd and edit the files so when you boot iit up or install it it will have the required customisations
[03:22] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: "Zentyal" is not a supported derivitive of Ubuntu. You'll have to get support from them.
[03:22] <variable> mnouh_: you need clang++ not clang
[03:23] <variable> mnouh_: I'm uncertain however how to install clang++ on Ubuntu :-)
[03:23] <intelinside2020> can anyone help me with the HTACCESS file!!!!
[03:23] <eiriksvin> and is it compatible with Natty?
[03:23] <uRock> shcherbak, thanks, I had tried searching *.deb, but it came back empty handed
[03:23] <uRock> I found what I was looking for
[03:23] <AlexGer> Jordan_U i tried it olso with ubuntu
[03:23] <genjix> Jordan_U: thank you! that file fixed it.
[03:23] <Jordan_U> genjix: You're welcome.
[03:23]  * cheapie continues waiting for todd2
[03:23] <todd2> cheapie:  did the install, still no light on the wifi saying it's on... may have to restart? right?
 is it compatible with Natty?
[03:24] <cheapie> todd2: That should help.
[03:24] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: What version of Ubuntu and what was the exact error message from Ubuntu?
 can anyone help me with the HTACCESS file!!!! ---> ask & wait. don't complain
[03:24] <shcherbak> intelinside2020: apache channel would be better choice.
[03:24] <todd2> cheapie: out for a restart...
[03:24] <cheapie> todd2: OK.
[03:24] <RxDx> is there any "netspeed" indicator for Unity?
[03:24] <variable> can anyone tell me & mnouh_ how to install clang++ (the c++ driver for llvm) on Ubuntu ?
[03:24] <sary> eiriksvin: You might also wana try xvidcap.
[03:24] <LAcan> uggghh... where can I go for VNC help?
[03:24] <cheapie> RxDx: What exactly are you looking for?
[03:25] <AlexGer> i googled around to find more information abaut that message and i've seen a coupple of forum posts...
[03:25] <RxDx> cheapie, an applet like net-speed for gnome2
[03:25] <AlexGer> e.g.: http://www.linux-web.de/thread/11061/fehler-es-wurde-kein-installierbarer-kernel-gefunden.html
[03:25] <cheapie> RxDx: Please Wait...
[03:25] <__yhvh__> anyone upgraded their bios recently?
[03:25] <intelinside2020> @variable   i wanted to knw tht i can ask the question hre or not
[03:25] <RxDx> that shows the network speed on the top
[03:25] <RxDx> cheapie, thanks
[03:25] <AlexGer> have to install it again
[03:25] <AlexGer> ...
[03:25] <intelinside2020> @shcherbak thank u
[03:25] <variable> intelinside2020: generally the rule is "don't ask to ask - just ask" and people will redirect you
 is it in the repo?
[03:26] <julian_c> eiriksvin: sudo "apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop" (works in Natty, AFAIK)
[03:26] <mnouh_> Anyone know how to install clang++ on Natty, its giving me an error :  fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
[03:26] <mnouh_> #include <iostream>
[03:26] <mnouh_>          ^
[03:26] <mnouh_> 1 error generated.
[03:26] <cheapie> RxDx: I don't think one exists yet. A search turned up nothing.
 sweet getting it now
[03:27] <Zombiedeadshot> i guess what im asking is how can i edit filesystem.squashfs to customize some configueation files within a live cd?
[03:27] <sary> eiriksvin / it is.
[03:27] <variable> mneptok: please avoid pasting multiple lines. :-)
[03:28] <cheapie> Can anybody help me with errors when trying to build an application from source?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> cheapie: What are you trying to install?
 imma try that one too
[03:28] <mnouh_> Can anyone help me installing clang++ on natty?
[03:28] <mnouh_> install*
[03:29] <AlexGer> Jordan_U i also tried to burn the image with a PC and with a laptop. I used different cd's and DVD's!
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !remaster | Zombiedeadshot
[03:29] <cheapie> Jordan_U: I am trying to build a program called Skyscraper (http://www.skyscrapersim.com/) on Natty, and I'm getting these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602578/
[03:29] <Zombiedeadshot> @ubottu thank you
[03:30] <mnouh_> Can anyone help me install clang++ on Natty.
[03:31] <jiltdil> how to dd any application  permanently visible on left side panel of unity?
[03:31] <jiltdil> *add
[03:31] <LAcan> ok, outside of VNC what are my remote desktop options for ubuntu?
[03:32] <cheapie> jiltdil: Right click it and select "Keep in Launcher"
[03:32] <mnouh_> How do I install clang++ on Natty.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> cheapie: Have you read http://www.skyscrapersim.com/downloads/linux/linux-install.txt ?
[03:32] <jiltdil> chapie:thanks
[03:32] <cheapie> Jordan_U: I'll go read that now...
[03:34] <cheapie> Jordan_U: That's for the older Crystal Space versions. I'm trying to build one of the new OGRE versions. I followed the instructions on their forum.
[03:35] <jiltdil> any text to speech conversion s/w in ubuntu s/w center except jovie as it is not working i am using natty?
[03:36] <mnouh_> Installing clang++ on Natty. It cannot find the c headers.
[03:37] <dagon> I want my linux to look like the pc in the aracade in tron
[03:37] <Mx0> ._.
[03:37] <dagon> you know they use linux in legacy
[03:38] <Jordan_U> dagon: Press ctrl+alt+F1, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X (the GUI).
[03:38] <kylemcgill> dagon: use arch linux then
[03:38]  * cheapie wonders what's taking Jordan_U so long
[03:40] <Jordan_U> cheapie: I'm not particularly interested in going through the steps to install it myself and thus can't really help you much.
[03:40] <cheapie> Jordan_U: Well, there goes the third person that I've asked for help...
[03:40] <khaotik> what r u trying to install?
[03:41] <cheapie> khaotik: Me? I'm trying to install Skyscraper (skyscrapersim.com)
[03:42] <jiltdil> is there any text to speech conversion s/w in ubuntu s/w center except jovie as it is not working i am using natty?
[03:42] <speed752> whats the "getapt"thing for flash player
[03:43] <shcherbak> jiltdil: festival
[03:43] <AlexGer> Jordan_U any ideas?
[03:43] <DiazepaN> got this error when open cheese One or more needed GStreamer elements are missing: camerabin, can someone help me?
[03:43] <speed752> ?
[03:44] <antonio_> hola cual esta el chat de ubunto venesuela
[03:44] <jiltdil> scherbak:thanks alot
[03:44] <jetscreamer> !es
[03:44] <jetscreamer> !br
[03:44] <Jordan_U> AlexGer: You still haven't told me what version of Ubuntu you are installing and what the exact error message from Ubuntu is.
[03:44] <antonio_> venezuela
[03:44] <jetscreamer> i dunno your language
[03:44] <jetscreamer> lol
[03:44] <DiazepaN> got this error when open cheese One or more needed GStreamer elements are missing: camerabin, can someone help me?
[03:45] <veovis_muaddib> Sorry, decided to move this from #lubuntu - I just installed lubuntu and it detected my network during install, updated things, installed the restricted things, etc...  Then upon first boot DNS didn't work until I added my own nameservers in the system tray tool.  (DHCP Addresses only)  Then upon next boot I could only access my local network, but adding the proper gateway, switching to static IP, all don't work
[03:45] <antonio_> #ubuntu.ve
[03:45] <IdleOne> antonio_: /join #ubuntu-ve
[03:46] <antonio_> gracias
[03:46] <IdleOne> de nada
[03:50] <xiaoji> hello～～～～lieying
[03:50] <lieying> hello xiaoji
[03:51] <andygraybeal_> yay, i have unity :)
[03:51] <andygraybeal_> just needed to isntall proprietary nvidia drivers and it works!
[03:51] <edbian> andygraybeal_: :D
[03:52] <andygraybeal_> :)  i wasn't sure it was gonna work!  but it does!  i am happy.
[03:52] <xiaoji> congratulation to you
[03:52] <LAcan> is there a good guide on optimizing GNOME for VNC (ie. make it faster?)
[03:52] <tepster> i guess the live cd couldnt detect it hey?
[03:52] <mickster04> !vnc
[03:52] <andygraybeal_> tepster, yes that is correct.  i wonder if the same would have happened if i installed the opensource nvidia drivers.. maybe i'll find out in the future, but for now i'm set!!
[03:53] <mickster04> LAcan: see ubottus thing
[03:53] <afeijo> did ubuntu 11.04 changed drastically? it now seems the netbook version
[03:53] <mickster04> !unity | afeijo
[03:54] <Edgan> Anyone know how to remove launchers from the panel in Gnome3 fallback mode?
[03:54] <LAcan> mickster04, ya i saw that for setting up my VNC over SSH.. now i just want it to be more responsive
[03:56] <red2kic> Edgan: ADD MORE LAUNCHERS. Start crying. I had the same thing. :\
[03:56] <imbezol> on 11.04.. the side menu bar is stuck open.. how do i close it?
[03:56] <quint> so, im running lubuntu (lxde) cant seem to get emesene to work.. im on 11.04 now when i was 10.10 i could run it clean
[03:57] <red2kic> Edgan: My solution? I ignored it and slowly making a switch to different environment.
[03:57] <Edgan> red2kic: I know the nuclear option of how to get rid of them.
[03:57] <red2kic> Edgan: Remove Gnome3?
[03:58] <Edgan> red2kic: remove your user dconf file
[03:58] <Edgan> red2kic: ~/.config/dconf/user
[03:58] <multipass_> is there any fix for desktop wall edge flipping in 11.04?
[03:59] <soreau> multipass_: Probably not if you don't say what's wrong with it
[03:59] <Edgan> red2kic: They must have been smoking something the day they made dconf binary format.
[03:59] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked some residual not installes s/w for complete removal but after marking these for removal where from where i apply changes as the apply buttin is freezes?
[04:00] <red2kic> Edgan: I get the same feeling when Vista first came out. (So I made the switch to linux). And now Gnome3 is doing this! :(
[04:00] <Edgan> red2kic: I have considered switching environments.
[04:00] <Edgan> red2kic: They did the same shit, though not this bad, with Gnome2.
[04:00] <multipass_> soreau, very simply it just dosnt work, 10.10 to 11.04 broke it-- it flips sometimes, most of the time it dosnt
[04:00] <red2kic> Edgan: Language. It's the policy here. .__.
[04:01] <Edgan> red2kic: :P
[04:01] <KM0201> red2kic: they'll get it worked out.. do you remember when the transition from kde3 to 4 was made?... it was way rougher
[04:01] <multipass_> soreau, it seems that if u have a window in focus, then it flips, but if not then nothing happens
[04:01] <gtech> I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu and now when I loggin my scroll lock key blinks and everything locks up, I hear this is a kernal panic, how do I resolve this?
[04:01] <jiltdil> any solution to my problem?
[04:01] <soreau> multipass_: Join the crowd. They really totally screwed up compiz and this whole 11.04 release
[04:01] <red2kic> Edgan: I love Gnome2. Now I'm using AwesomeWM. I need more time to absorb shortcuts.
[04:01] <multipass_> soreau, yay.
[04:01] <red2kic> KM0201: I haven't tried KDE4.
[04:02] <soreau> multipass_: If you feel like getting ignored, file a bug
[04:02] <jiltdil> in synpatic package manager i marked some residual not installes s/w for complete removal but after marking these for removal where from where i apply changes as the apply buttin is freezes?
[04:02] <andygraybeal_> i don't know what the big deal was on the ubuntu list.. this isn't much different than it was before!  i thought it'd be totally different from the whining on the list!
[04:02] <mbrigdan> Hello! Since I upgraded to 11.04, all my window decorations in compiz (i don't really like unity) have disappeared. I've tried reinstalling many things, (even new window decorators, such as emerald) but nothing works, and it makes it hard to do things
[04:02] <KM0201> red2kic: well, now its fine.. (if you like kDE, i personally hate it) but when it first came out, it was a mess.
[04:02] <red2kic> KM0201: Gnome2 was hitting all the notes for me. Now it's singing off-key. :\
[04:02] <KM0201> red2kic: your best bet, if you're that unhappy with gnome3/unity.. is to switch to xfce/lxde.. .
[04:02] <Edgan> red2kic: Sadly it takes them years to get it right. When they do, they are bored, so they start over. :\
[04:03] <KM0201> Edgan: lol, i don't know about a few years, but probably a year is fair
[04:03] <Omega> !attitude > soreau
[04:03] <soreau> Omega: Whatever.
[04:03] <quint> lxde is fantastic
[04:03] <red2kic> Edgan: If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it. Also, it seems like everybody is always trying to reinvent the wheel and call it the new thing.
[04:04] <quint> took a sec to get used to
[04:04]  * KM0201 agrees with quint
[04:04] <soreau> I'm just telling it like it really is
[04:04] <gdb> I've not tried lxde, but xfce is very gnome2-like if that's the experience you're looking for.
[04:04] <Edgan> red2kic: Not invented here syndrome.
[04:04] <jiance> hi
[04:04] <Omega> If you don't want to be helpful, feel free to leave.
[04:05] <soreau> If you don't want to see a real attitude, feel free to shut up.
[04:05] <KM0201> red2kic: well, it's only natural that a desktop interface evolves.. gnome2-gnome3.. only  makes sense.. it's just gonna take time to work the bugs out.
[04:05] <gtech> I just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu(11.04) and now when I loggin my scroll lock key blinks and everything locks up, I hear this is a kernal panic, I'm using gnome, how do I resolve this?
[04:05] <red2kic> KM0201: Are you on Gnome3 right now?
[04:05] <KM0201> red2kic: no, but i tested it pretty extensively w/ fedora
[04:06] <red2kic> KM0201: You can't change the background with traditional right-click --> Background. They took away many things.
[04:06] <soreau> gtech: Typically a kernel panic is caused by a faulty kernel module
[04:07] <quint> what is this kernel panic you speak of?
[04:07] <soreau> gtech: Which graphics card do you have?
[04:07] <fearphage> my bluetooth adapter (internal, laptop, GE620) is not automatically recognized. how do i probe for it?
[04:07] <red2kic> gtech: If things aren't working, you can reboot and hold SHIFT to select older kernel.
[04:07] <KM0201> red2kic: i'm aware of that.
[04:07] <soreau> quint: It's basically a lockup where your keyboard LEDs start blinking
[04:07] <nutsfornatty> its still light years better than windows and no apple tax like a mac, no real room for unity complaints
[04:07] <gtech> soreau: gtx 260
[04:07] <Edgan> red2kic: I think that was nautilus, which can be brought back
[04:08] <soreau> gtech: Is that an nvidia model?
[04:08] <gtech> red2kic: I'll try that again, last time I did it just hung on the loading screen
[04:08] <gtech> soreau: yeah
[04:08] <Edgan> red2kic: you need gnome-tweak-tool, and then set file manager | have file manager handle the desktop | on
[04:08] <quint> pcmanfm is the wayy
[04:08] <soreau> gtech: Can you boot into recovery mode ok?
[04:09] <Edgan> red2kic: then run nautilus. I just tried it, it let me change my background.
[04:09] <gtech> soreau: yeah
[04:09] <awesomestman> Is this the appropriate loction to ask for Ubuntu support?
[04:09] <ZekeS> yes
[04:09] <red2kic> Edgan: I like gconf-editor better. I'm just going to walk away from this cesspool. :)
[04:10] <Edgan> red2kic: gconf-editor = dconf-editor now
[04:10] <gtech> soreau: what should I do once there?
[04:10] <red2kic> awesomestman: Yes. Welcome to #ubuntu
[04:10] <chaospsyX> what do i need to access a windows network from ubuntu ?
[04:10] <awesomestman> Thanks.
[04:10] <KM0201> chaospsyX: samba
[04:10] <KM0201> !samba
[04:10] <quint> say now, how do i go about installing the java environment and icedtea ?
[04:10] <ZekeS> chaospsyX: samba, although ubuntu should see them out of the box iirc
[04:10] <quint> (forgot how)
[04:11] <red2kic> awesomestman: If you have a question, plop it away. Somebody who know the answer are likely to respond.
[04:11] <red2kic> !java | quint
[04:11] <bazhang> quint, enable partner repo
[04:11] <quint> thanks ! :)
[04:11] <awesomestman> Just made the switch to Ubuntu today. I have some issues with Software Center. It's been hanging on me and won't get past the loading icon.
[04:11] <soreau> gtech: Try blacklisting the nvidia kernel module by creating a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf and putting 'nvidia' on a single line without quotes
[04:12] <zenocon> quint: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[04:13] <gtech> soreau: cool, I'll try it
[04:13] <soreau> gtech: Also remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists
[04:13] <red2kic> Software Center is back in Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:13] <chaospsyX> LOL
[04:14] <chaospsyX> omg
[04:14] <ZekeS> ?
[04:14] <KM0201> red2kic: well of course it is, why wouldn't it be?
[04:14] <trinikrono> awesomestman: use apt-get :D
[04:14] <soreau> red2kic: I don't think it ever went away
[04:14] <red2kic> awesomestman: Close it. Use a terminal or synpatic when it comes to install packages.
 Software Center is back in Ubuntu 11.04?  <---- LOL
[04:14] <ZekeS> disregard apt-get, use aptitude
[04:14] <soreau> chaospsyX: It's not that funny, really
[04:14]  * KM0201 sighs..
[04:14] <ZekeS> :)
[04:14] <faryshta> Hello. I can't read original DVD's. Looks like its a region issue. How can I fix it?
[04:14] <red2kic> chaospsyX: Somebody trustworthy told me that. :|
[04:14] <KM0201> faryshta: have you installed libdvdcss?
[04:14] <soreau> ! dvd | faryshta
[04:15] <faryshta> KM0201, yes, I can read pirates and downloaded dvd's. I can't read original DVD's region 4.
[04:15] <gtech> soreau: which log files would I attempt to look at to see what is happening?
[04:15] <red2kic> Then again, this is Internet. I shouldn't trust anyone.
[04:15] <KM0201> faryshta: read the lnk soreau gave you above
[04:15] <magpii> i just updated to ubuntu 11 and now i cannot see the panels on my desktop, also, i cannot move any open windows or resize them . any help?
[04:15] <red2kic> awesomestman: Open a terminal (under Accessories) -- Type "aptitude search firefox" -- You get the idea.
[04:15] <chaospsyX> red2kic: :-P
[04:16] <red2kic> awesomestman: Want to install firefox? "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[04:16] <soreau> gtech: Probably /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[04:16] <faryshta> soreau, KM0201, I have libdvdread4 and libdvdcss installed.
[04:16] <soreau> red2kic: Hey, watch your aptitude buddy
[04:16] <soreau> ;)
[04:17] <KM0201> faryshta: ther's also instructinos on that site on how to deal w/ region issues
[04:17] <awesomestman> red2kic: thanks. I was trying to find what to enter into terminal to install something
[04:17] <tbrew13> i need some help with chrome how do i get just the chrome border and not the unity border in ubuntu 11.04 also the bisigi repository does not work
[04:18] <magpii> i cannot view the panels on my desktop, also windows wont move or resize and the close, minimize and maximize buttons ar not visible, can someone advise please?
[04:18] <trinikrono> awesomestman: you can look at http://ubuntuguide.org/ it has a guide on how to install alot of things that you might need
[04:19] <red2kic> awesomestman: If you're new, obviously this stuffs will confuse you at first -- but after few days, your brain cells will start firing up and you're *now* off autopilot in your life. :)
[04:19] <faryshta> KM0201, I remember using an illegal opensource lib in my old installation. Do you know any?
[04:19] <KM0201> faryshta: even if i did, it wouldn't be allowed to be discussed here
[04:19] <faryshta> KM0201, its only illegal in US. Not in my country méxico.
[04:20] <faryshta> It was done by DVD-Jon.
[04:20] <magpii> can anyone tell me how i can revert to ubuntu 10 seeing as 11.04 has just screwed my perfectly decent system up
[04:20] <red2kic> awesomestman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide#Aptitude from the command line
[04:20] <KM0201> faryshta: then try ubuntu-es
[04:20] <bazhang> magpii, full reinstall, or choose gnome-classic from login window
[04:20] <chaospsyX> magpii: i was in your situation a few nights ago :-( i feel for ya man, i really do
[04:20] <red2kic> awesomestman: Number #5
[04:21] <bazhang> !medibuntu | faryshta
[04:21] <magpii> none of my panels are showing on desktop, the close window, minimize an resize options are gone, so is my 3d desktop
[04:21] <Guest17232> recently bought the verizon mobile hotspot, but everytime i connect to it with ubuntu, the connection drops every 10 sec, any suggestions?