[00:33] <mup> PR operator#965 closed: Add supports_open_port_on_k8s to JujuVersion <Created by carlcsaposs-canonical> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/965>
[00:59] <mup> PR operator#967 closed: Remove workaround for non-unique consumer labels bug (juju/juju#14916) <Created by benhoyt> <Merged by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/967>
[16:04] <mup> Issue operator#969 opened: Support unified charmcraft.yaml <Created by syu-w> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/969>
[16:04] <mup> Issue operator#970 opened: Add `cross_model` property to `model.Relation` <Created by sed-i> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/970>


[22:40] <glitsj16> _CommandeR_: i use mpd with gmpc for all things audio
[22:41] <qopi> muse/ mattgirv : the device is connnected, just can't work out how to send audio to it
[22:41] <cavaradossi> even if you have a terminal open with sudo su enable?
[22:41] <qopi> apot: authentication issues?
[22:41] <_CommandeR_> glitsj16, mpd gmpc ? do they have a site or a screenshot etc?
[22:41] <muse> qopi: I was sure, although I don't have it installed atm, that you just right click it and yo will find a audio server button that you have to enable
[22:42] <apot> qopi: after entering the location information for the share, an "Enter Password" box appears. despite entering the correct password, the Enter Password box just opens endlessly
[22:42] <Hermpie> Dr_Willis, can you tell that if I wrote a program in MONO it can be ran on windows linux and every platform I can think of or most of them?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Hermpie: it's not quite like that
[22:42] <glitsj16> _CommandeR_: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/Gnome_Music_Player_Client
[22:42] <Hermpie> Explain
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Hermpie: or maybe it is, but like  for example Banshee is written in Mono, but can Windows run it, nope
[22:43] <Hermpie> What language you can code in on Linux
[22:43] <apot> i have smbclient, smbmount, and smbumount installed
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> Hermpie:  in 'theory' it can be ran.. but in practice.. ive not seen that be the case without a lot of work/screaming/cussing.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Hermpie: Python is a good one for Linux
[22:43] <apot> but i assume that is irrelevant
[22:43] <qopi> muse: right click what, exactly?
[22:43] <Hermpie> Python is web?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Hermpie: it can also be for web yeah
[22:43] <muse> doesn't blueman have a tray icon?
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> Hermpie:  Mono/.Net has a lot of 'hype' around it - that just has not delivered the promises yet.
[22:43] <Hermpie> I c
[22:43] <muse> the tray icon.. qopi
[22:43] <mattgirv> Hermpie, Check out perl :)
[22:44] <Hermpie> I thought so
[22:44] <mattgirv> perl is lovely
[22:44] <mattgirv> :D
[22:44] <Hermpie> yes
[22:44] <Tecna> I've been trying to figure this out for days...
[22:44] <Hermpie> But Then I have to drown all my previous knownledge
[22:44] <Hermpie> and did it for nothing
[22:44] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: Python :)   Ruby maybe even,   C and C++    Perl on Linux?  what uses Perl in Linux
[22:44] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: which Linux apps are done in Perl?  not many I expect
[22:44] <mattgirv> sebsebseb, Thats naive
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> RIght now the Game Lord OF the rings online can 'sort of play inwine' but the .Net written 'lancher' is the biggest problem.
[22:44] <kronopio> thanks hmw and ubbottu
[22:44] <sebsebseb> mattgirv: and Python is a great one  to start with
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen a lot of linux perl scripts/tools in the past. then python seemed to get more poplyar now a days
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> befor Perl, it seemed TCL/TK was popular
[22:45] <mattgirv> Perl has a constant userbase
[22:45] <jwf> if you want to be a sysadmin, learn perl. if you want to be a programmer, learn python
[22:45] <mattgirv> that wont change :p
[22:45] <Tecna> I've been told that Ubuntu's alternate installer can encrypt my root filesystem, but I can't find that option.
[22:45] <mattgirv> anyway, whats to stop you learning all of them :)
[22:45] <tdizzy> I'm having sound trouble. I have an Acer Aspire X1700. My sound system is plugged in via the optical audio cable on the back. I can get sound if I plug in a standard pair of headphones to the front, but I can't get my sound system to work. How might I fix this problem?
[22:45] <yowshi> anyone know how i can get ubuntu to record from my webcam without cheese?
[22:45] <jwf> if you want to be a computer nerd, learn both
[22:46] <Cpudan80> Whats the package to reenable Ctrl + alt + backspace in jaunty ?
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Hermpie  Dr_Willis  mattgriv and me     This is the Ubuntu suppourt channel,  for  Ubuntu specific help,  that  in this situation does not include proggramming,  please join  #ubuntu-offtopic or  possibily   #proggramming for further dicussion  Thank you!
[22:46] <mattgirv> or resourceful :D
[22:46] <Cpudan80> !info ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:46] <f190> hello. i tried installing ubuntu on a friend's computer, and the computer just attempted to boot from the cd, and shutdown. we removed the cd and it still does that. so we unplugged the cdrom drive and tried to boot and it worked.
[22:46] <kronopio> what is a network key ring?
[22:46] <mattgirv> sebsebseb, sure
[22:46] <Twigathy_> !info dontzap
[22:46] <sebsebseb> well I am already in #ubuntu-offtopic :d
[22:46] <jwf> anyone get Miro to work in Jaunty? did it require any special magics?
[22:46] <Jaac> Is there a real fix for vmware tools for 9.04? The mouse is bugging like hell, and except the ungrab, all other modules don't work.
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  it works here
[22:47] <Tecna> I've been told that Ubuntu's alternate installer can encrypt my root filesystem, but I can't find that option.
[22:47] <jwf> Dr_Willis: just out of the box?
[22:47] <Tecna> where is it?
[22:47] <JohnDoe1> just use TrueCrypt for encryption
[22:47] <dn5a-b> mattgirv: im on live cd
[22:47] <p-f> What's a good alternative to mspaint for quick doodling/resizing/mashuping on linux?  I found how I did my bluetooth headset looking through my archives...
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[22:48] <sebsebseb> kronopio: see above, also Tuxpaint check this out,   now that's one great fun  Paint app
[22:48] <bobbob1016> JohnDoe1: He wants to encrypt the root directory, truecrypt is a bit trickier to do that with than the alt installer.
[22:48] <sebsebseb> kronopio: make sure sound is on when you do that one
[22:48] <dn5a-b> mattgirv: heeeelp
[22:48] <mattgirv> dn5a-b, Should be pretty easy to figure out
[22:48] <dn5a-b> mattgirv: it is not
[22:48] <mattgirv> Ok
[22:48] <qopi> muse: yes, I am here :) yes, blueman does have icon, but can't see anything about audio when I right click
[22:48] <mattgirv> one sec, lemme load it up
[22:48] <jwf> Dr_Willis: hmmm, it just dies silently, doesn't start. any idea how to start looking at what might be causing that? Running it with --debug isn't helpful
[22:48] <muse> qopi: I am guessing you are trying to connect up a headset right? It is connected and paired?
[22:49] <p-f> thanks Dr_Willis / sebsebseb
[22:49] <Tecna> JohnDoe1: How am I supposed to mount an encrypted root partition created with truecrypt?
[22:49] <stippi> Hi! Is there any way to make Nautilus automatically close a window of a volume that become unavailable instead of keeping the window open and pointing it to my home dir? That is really annoying.
[22:49] <cllaudyu> hello is anybody having problems with ubuntu 9.04?
[22:49] <qopi> muse I believe it is yes. and yes, it is a headset of sorts (that is what blueman says it is)
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  rin it from a terminal.. it runs fine here  version --> Miro 2.0.3 (r9307)
[22:49] <mattgirv> dn5a-b, Right... click the partition in the list that says NTFS under file system
[22:49] <bobbob1016> Tecna: Don't.  The alt installer does have it, just let me find it
[22:49] <JohnDoe1> Theres a simple walk through
[22:49] <kfizz> claudyu: Not really, what's your problem?
[22:49] <JohnDoe1> on their website
[22:50] <Tecna> bobbob1016: thank you
[22:50] <muse> ok you need to make a new file called .asoundrc and put in your home
[22:50] <dn5a-b> mattgirv: let me /q you. It's quite hard to read in between the lines like this
[22:50] <jwf> Dr_Willis, i do run it from term. it just doesn't print anything, doesn't do anything, returns me to command prompt. if I run it with --debug, it starts it in GDB, which tells me that the "Program exited normally."
[22:50] <mattgirv> dn5a-b, go for it
[22:50] <JohnDoe1> www.truecrypt.org...i use it to encrypt my system drive and also create an encrypted file to store all my personal data
[22:50] <f190> any suggestions on why my friend's computer hangs like that?
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  clean install here, and all i did was apt-get install miro, so not sure what to tell ya
[22:51] <muse> then add these lines >>pcm.Headset \n{ \n type bluetooth \n }
[22:51] <cllaudyu> kfizz i have a little problem
[22:51] <jwf> i wonder if it's cause I upgraded from hardy
[22:51] <kfizz> cllaudyu: What's your prob, maybe I can help
[22:51] <bobbob1016> Tecna: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+alternate+encrypt&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 first page gave me http://news.softpedia.com/news/Encrypted-Ubuntu-8-04-85271.shtml which is for hardy, but should still work
[22:51] <cllaudyu> kfizz i cannot see what programs crash... it says it crashed but when i open the log nothing happens...
[22:51] <apot>  qopi: thanks
[22:52] <Morph> hello all
[22:52] <kfizz> cllaudyu: Is this with any program, or one in particular. And what log are you viewing?
[22:52] <sonmez> hi i have a sound problem on my acer aspire 6935 laptop with ubuntu 9.04  when i use live cd i can get sound but after the install i cant. if i copy the alsa config files an replace after the install does it change anything :)
[22:52] <apot> it works now, just annoyingly
[22:52] <cllaudyu> kfizz well i can't view any log since it isn't trying to open...
[22:52] <qopi> apot: cool, pleasure :)
[22:52] <Morph> my 9.04 doesnt shutdown all the way.  It hangs with a blinking cursor
[22:52] <jwf> Dr_Willis: could you do me a favour? run miro with --debug from the command line and let me know if it shows you a bunch of gtcache.gettext warnings
[22:53] <kfizz> cllaudyu: So you can't even open the program?
[22:53] <qopi> muse: do I inlucde the >> ?
[22:53] <cllaudyu> kfizz yea...
[22:53] <Winkie> I upgraded my laptop a few days ago, and now when logging in, the network manager utility lists my wireless as disabled, but I have no option to enable it. It's an Intel 5300 AGN in a Fujitsu Siemens T5010
[22:53] <jwf> Dr_Willis: cause maybe they aren't warnings, but errors, and that's where to start looking
[22:53] <muse> qopi: no
[22:53] <muse> everything after that
[22:53] <kronopio> i feel like I just discovered thhe internet for the 2nd time!
[22:53] <Tecna> bobbob1016: thank you.  that's very helpful
[22:53] <qopi> muse: ok, done
[22:53] <kfizz> cllaudyu: So this is any program you try to run?
[22:53] <pwnguin> I've downloaded and burnt ubuntu 9.04 to a CD. How do I tell upgrade-manager to upgrade from it?
[22:53] <getxsick> hi, what's a difference between normal and remix versin (apart from remix application)
[22:54] <cllaudyu> kfizz yea...
[22:54] <odinsbane> Winkie: did you have to enable restricted drivers?
[22:54] <bobbob1016> Tecna: Just google first, very helpful...  no offense, I used to do that (and still do) sometimes
[22:54] <Winkie> odinsbane: I don't believe I did, wlan0 shows up in 'iwconfig'
[22:54] <qopi> muse: as in I did sudo gedit ~/.asoundrc then added the line you gave in there
[22:54] <odinsbane> Winkie: can you connect to a network using command line options?
[22:54] <muse> qopi: in my notes it said that a restart my be required.. I am sure all you have to do is restart all the bluetooth proccesses thou, there where just to many and I am lazy :)
[22:54] <kfizz> cllaudyu: Have you tried running programs from the terminal and seeing what happpens?
[22:55] <odinsbane> Winkie: eg ifconfig wlan0 up; iwlist wlan0 scan ...
[22:55] <Winkie> odinsbane: I have yet to try, as we're WPA2 I don't exactly know how, was hoping it was a known issue
[22:55] <Winkie> odinsbane: i'll try the scan, one second
[22:55] <muse> qopi: ya, and swap all the \n with linebreaks
[22:55] <Tecna> bobbob1016: I just spent hours searching google.
[22:55] <Winkie> odinsbane: i consistently get 'no scan results'
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  http://pastebin.com/f5d43615c
[22:56] <qopi> muse: ah, I'd better do that line break thing :P
[22:56] <Morph> anyone know how to fix the shutdown issue?
[22:56] <lazermann> what command do you use to unzip the archive to the specified directory?
[22:56] <bobbob1016> Tecna: "ubuntu encrypt alternate" but either way, glad I could help
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[22:56] <glitsj16> pwnguin: open system > software sources and add you're cd-rom (second tab "third-party software")
[22:56] <odinsbane> Winkie: under system administration, hardware drivers there could be restricted drivers.
[22:56] <Quino> Can any of you tell me how to get avi files play on  Ubuntu? I can see the still previews but when I tried to play through totem & vlc, the programs open then close without playing anything
[22:56] <Winkie> odinsbane: there isn't, i checked
[22:56] <kfizz> Quino: You probably need the codecs
[22:57] <capiira> lazermann, unzip with -d option
[22:57] <Quino> kfizz: what codecs do i get?
[22:57] <jwf> Dr_Willis: and did it start up just fine, then say "program exited normally" when you close the program?
[22:57] <muse>  qopi: http://pastebin.com/m5fc11f8 should look like this.. all in ~/.asoundrc
[22:57] <esmeralda> hola
[22:57] <kfizz> Quino: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/codecs.html
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> Quino:  try playing them from the terminal, also try mplayer/gmplayer and instll the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and perhaps the w32codecs pack.
[22:57] <esmeralda> caca
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  it ran find..  then i closed it
[22:58] <esmeralda> hello
[22:58] <pwnguin> glitsj16: it keeps telling me i need to download ~900MB =(
[22:58] <esmeralda> my name is esmeralda
[22:58] <jwf> Dr_Willis: cool man, thanks for your help. so it confirms my suspicions that the gettext messages are just warnings...but brings me no closer to figuring out what's going on...
[22:58] <pwnguin> glitsj16: i just turned off the net repos, we'll see if that fixes it
[22:58] <esmeralda> mierda
[22:58] <Ziw> Is there any way to change sample rate on a usb mic.. I tried jackd but i dont think its a solution..
[22:58] <muse> qopi: thats all I can say really.. I may have restarted and it worked, but after that it worked so my notes end there :P
[22:58] <esmeralda> playos
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> jwf:  try it as a new user?
[22:59] <Winkie> odinsbane: i'm going to try an older kernel, brb
[22:59] <jwf> Dr_Willis: that's a great idea.
[22:59] <Morph> someone know what could be causing the error in the shutdown process/?
[22:59] <mrblonde> Hey everybody i have a ig problem
[22:59] <capiira> missing B?
[22:59] <lazermann> capiira i did: unzip file.zip -d /path, but it said it couldn't create extraction directory
[22:59] <Szadek> !air
[22:59] <Morph> all i have is a black screen with a blinking cursor
[23:00] <Szadek> !adobe
[23:00] <mattgirv> lazermann, You have write permission?
[23:00] <mrblonde> i got the notice "Disabling IRQ #18" and my system won't shut down
[23:00] <glitsj16> pwnguin: any luck ?
[23:01] <mrblonde> how i am able to solve this problem
[23:01] <qopi> muse: hmz, did that and restarted bluetooth but now device manager wont even open! :P
[23:01] <muse> :(
[23:01] <pwnguin> glitsj16: nope =(
[23:02] <mattgirv> mrblonde: try unplugging everything usb
[23:02] <lazermann> mattgirv this is the problem. I don't. Sudo doesn't work. And when i try to logon as root it doesn't let me(i mean upon restart)
[23:02] <muse> qopi: well I just found something else in my archive that might help, the link I used when I did it! http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=4ecb6cf8284e84459f80bfe716f47992&t=694010
[23:02] <glitsj16> pwnguin: odd indeed ... i'd try re-enabling net repo's and cd-rom and run a "sudo apt-get update" to reload sources, besides that i wouldn't know what is happening
[23:02] <mattgirv> lazermann, What error do you get when you sudo unzip?
[23:02] <gourdcaptain> Heh. I got that Ubuntu 9.04 upgrade to work - my mom left it on while manually prying the drive open, and it suddenly drops to a console from the frozen boot screen, installs the NVIDIA drivers, and boots.
[23:03] <gourdcaptain> (/me came on as sabel4th to ask for help about that, BTW)
[23:03] <muse> qopi: much more then what I did in the end.. but I am sure you will get it working after all that.
[23:03] <mrblonde> i have done this before and umounted it too but it doesn't helped
[23:03] <pwnguin> glitsj16: apparently the release notes suggest the alternate installCD
[23:03] <lazermann> mattgirv "julian@julian-laptop:~$ sudo unzip wasabi_player_skin.zip -d /usr/share/audacious/skins
[23:03] <lazermann> checkdir:  cannot create extraction directory: /usr/share/audacious/skins
[23:03] <Ziw> gourdcaptain: great :P
[23:03] <muse> qopi: your on your own now..
[23:03] <pwnguin> glitsj16: i guess the normal .iso uses wubi autoinstaller instead
[23:03] <apot> the annoyingly = calling Places > "Connect to Server" properly gets me a spiffy "Shared Folder on <IP_ADDRESS>" folder on my desktop and returns "Can't display location "smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared Folder/" The specified location is not mounted". Opening the newly created folder prompts for authentication again and, after entering the password, creates a new "Shared Folder on <IP_ADDRESS>" folder that shows the files
[23:04] <glitsj16> pwnguin: i see, haven't made the jump to jaunty just yet
[23:04] <capiira> you need to create eugen first
[23:04] <qopi> muse, ok thanks for your help, I'll see what it says on that page...
[23:04] <mattgirv> lazermann, try mkdir first
[23:04] <apot> weird?
[23:04] <mattgirv> or does the directory already exist?
[23:04] <coleys> lazermann: What did I help you with before, nvid drivers?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> apot:  could be the space in the sharename is causing issues. I noticed that here the space is replaced by a %20
[23:05] <lazermann> mattgirv the path does exist
[23:05] <popc0rn> yp
[23:05] <popc0rn> yo*
[23:05] <capiira> lazermann, -d points to a existing directory
[23:05] <sd32> wierd i think i had some ubunbtu spyware, something happened to my system where mispelled web addresses would go to ask.com as opposed to opendns results and the save as dialog took 30 seconds to appear, a reboot fixed it but just wierd
[23:05] <ienorand> does anyone know how to get gnome-wallchanger (doctromo's ppa) to work? it won't acknowledge any config changes for me...
[23:05] <armandocerna> apot does smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared\ Folder/ work?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> apot:  ie: 'disk 2' on server 'jukebox' -->   smb://jukebox/disk%202/
 wierd i think i had some ubunbtu spyware, something happened to my system where mispelled web addresses would go to ask.com as opposed to opendns results and the save as dialog took 30 seconds to appear, a reboot fixed it but just wierd   <-- lol wut? O_o
[23:06] <coleys> zhurai: ahhaa
[23:06] <sd32> zhurai, yeah
[23:06] <lazermann> coleys yeah thanx...well i had to fix xorg.conf and i founf info online...but yeah now all is working perfectly thank you very much
[23:06] <apot> thanks, renaming Shared Folder to transfers to see if it helps
[23:06] <zhurai> sd32: no idea what you mean, so I can't help you with that
[23:06] <zhurai> :P
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> apot:  yea. spaces in shrares can be a pain
[23:07] <coleys> lazermann: Oh good.. having other problems?
[23:07] <lazermann> capiira yes the directory i want to extract to does exist
[23:07] <capiira> btw. put audacious skins inside your home
[23:07] <odinsbane> If I'm backing up some directories on my hard drive, ext4 should I make the backup file system ext4 or can I go with ext3?
[23:07] <lazermann> coleys can't unzip from home folder to /usr/share/audacious/skins
[23:07] <Winkie> odinsbane: it turns out i don't have an older kernel installed, and I think our wireless should be visible
[23:07] <coleys> lazermann: what kind of archive?
[23:08] <grkblood13_> i just bought a server and im trying to put ubuntu on it but nothing will come up on my monitor, not even the bios, any1 know whats up?
[23:08] <Othor> my nautilus scripts are not working in 9.04   anything i can try to see why?
[23:08] <mattgirv> its not a multipart archive is it?
[23:08] <mattgirv> :p
[23:08] <lazermann> winamp skin - wasabi_player_skin.zip
[23:08] <capiira> there is no need to put them in /usr/share/audacious
[23:08] <lazermann> coleys well i renamed it to zip
[23:08] <lazermann> it was .wal
[23:08] <coleys> lazermann: it was .tar.gz or someth?
[23:08] <capiira> put it in your home directory in the audacious dir
[23:08] <elexodus> Anybody know how to fix " invalid blocks count" in partitian?
[23:08] <odinsbane> Winkie: can you shut it down and try to bring it back?  ifconfig wlan0 down...ifconfig wlan0 up ... then scan from it?
[23:08] <Winkie> odinsbane: one second
[23:08] <lazermann> coleys no it was .wal classic winamp skin file
[23:09] <Winkie> odinsbane: down and up seems fine, but still no scan results
[23:09] <sd32> zhurai,open dns is my dns provider but misspelled entrys  would come up with ask.com results as opposed to opendns search results unti i rebootes
[23:09] <coleys> lazermann: Hm, well you can extract the file to your home folder then... use the mv command to move it to that directory.
[23:09] <Winkie> oh odinsbane
[23:09] <elexodus> Anybody know how to fix " invalid blocks count" in partitian?
[23:09] <lazermann> coleys which i tried to untar, unzip...actually it is extractable to home folder via archive manager
[23:09] <Winkie> you won't believe what it is
[23:09] <capiira> lazermann, put it in /home/$USERNAME/.audacious /Skins
[23:10] <Winkie> odinsbane: i have found a log entry explaining it :)
[23:10] <lazermann> coleys what is mv
[23:10] <Winkie> odinsbane: [  411.855131] iwlagn: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch
[23:10] <odinsbane> You didn't have the switch on.
[23:10] <Winkie> yup
[23:10] <Winkie> my friend does not know how to turn on my laptop
[23:10] <coleys> lazermann: sudo mv ~/[foldername] /usr/share/audacious/
[23:10] <Winkie> it seems
[23:10] <coleys> lazermann: sudo mv ~/[foldername] /usr/share/audacious/skins/
[23:10] <coleys> I might ahve spelled audacious wrong, but you get the idea.
[23:11] <lazermann> let us try 1 moment
[23:11] <Winkie> i guess that should be made more obvious in networkmanager, but i should have thought to check it. thanks for your help odinsbane
[23:11] <p-f> My sound device just disappeared, nothing strange in dmesg. Any ideas where else I should look?
[23:11] <taylor_> Hello, I was wondering if I could have some help with something. I am trying to compile http://libharu.org/wiki/Downloads#Snapshots this on Ubuntu, and its not working.
[23:11] <coleys> lazermann: Tell me what's inside the zip file, so I can give you a more specific command
[23:12] <sd32> ask.com stole my opendns search results. until reboot....wierd
[23:12] <capiira> lazermann, v1.3 uses ~/.local/share/audacious/Skins
[23:12] <p-f> actually, it's still showing up in alsamixer - it's just  amarok and mplayer and every single application that needs audio that tells me it doesn't exist
[23:12] <Houba1986> hi, i have a question, if i wanna connect my laptop to an external monitor, using vga cable, are there any settings or anything i need to do to get it working? or do i just plug it in and it should work?
[23:12] <Houba1986> i am running ubuntu 9.04
[23:12] <lazermann> mv doesn't work: 'julian@julian-laptop:~$ sudo mv /wasabi /usr/share/audacious/skins
[23:12] <lazermann> mv: cannot stat `/wasabi': No such file or directory
[23:13] <lazermann> julian@julian-laptop:~$ cd wasabi
[23:13] <lazermann> julian@julian-laptop:~/wasabi$'
[23:13] <FloodBot3> lazermann: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <lazermann> oops sorry
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> Houba1986:  can depend on the video card/chipset an laptop... most laptops have a special key combo to toggle the output - basically.. try it and see
[23:13] <Othor> is anyone able to run nautilus scripts in 9.04? they are not working for me
[23:13] <apot> *: nope, removing the space in the share name doesnt help.
[23:13] <nvidiadriverhelp> anyone having out of range problems with Nvidia drivers?  (screen comes up blank, says out of range on monitor)
[23:14] <Houba1986> Dr_Willis, same thing with a projector? i know with the svideo cable, i had to change the resolution, because max resolution on svideo is 1024*768
[23:14] <apot> so, i can connect to the share, just weirdly
[23:14] <kfizz> What's everyone favorite p2p for Ubuntu other than bittorrent?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Houba1986:  yep.. try it and see.. is about all ya can say with Laptops...
[23:14] <capiira> lazermann, type "sudo nautilus" and use the file manager :D
[23:14] <p-f> kfizz: none, all the clients suck
[23:15] <capiira> in case you dont want the skin in your home
[23:15] <mano> my xchat likes to lock my system up when i try to resize it. is it worth reporting as a bug or shall i just try a different irc client?
[23:15] <p-f> kfizz: I just stick to btdownloadcurses
[23:15] <muse> nvidiadriverhelp: copy and paste the exact error into a google search surounded by "", you should find help..
[23:15] <lazermann> neither 'mv' nor '/local/.audacious/ work..will try nautilus
[23:16] <coleys> lazermann: You can also try... Alt +F2 --> gksu nautilus
[23:16] <pwnguin> is the alternate CD different than the server CD?
[23:16] <coleys> lazermann: And just copying, and pasting the files.
[23:16] <muse> mano: try use pidgin.. it is installed by default
[23:16] <muse> pwnguin: yes
[23:16] <Quino> ok so I have the Gstreamer already installed and I still cannot the get AVI files to play in Totem or VLC
[23:16] <lazermann> it can't create the directory...strange. But i am sure it would be all fine if i could logon as root. But it doesn't let me, why?
[23:16] <pwnguin> great
[23:16] <lazermann> i mean not in terminal upon logon...
[23:17] <capiira> dunno
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  you DONT login directly as root. :)
[23:17] <coleys> lazermann: What directory do you want created/
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  learn to use the command line to do rooty tasks is the best thing todo.
[23:17] <coleys> sudo = root
[23:17] <lazermann> i know but in mandriva you can actually
[23:17] <dimedo> i mounted an iso file, copied all files into an temporary directory, edited some thing and tried to create a new iso with mkisofs. i seem to have lost the bootsector on the way. any idea how to fix that?
[23:17] <glitsj16> taylor_: any errors while trying to build that ? On a side-note, going over the feature set on that website, there's alternatives on ubuntu you can install from regular repositories i believe
[23:17] <capiira> in ubuntu too you just have to setup a password
[23:17] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  dosent matter what mandriva does. :) .. its  bad security practice
[23:17] <lazermann> i have set it up
[23:17] <taylor_> really?
[23:18] <taylor_> I tried to find one
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  i install 'mc' and then do 'sudo mc' in a terminal, use that simple file manager to do 'root' filemanaging tasks.
[23:18] <lazermann> before i couldn't do even 'su'
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  theres no need to do 'su' either.
[23:18] <lazermann> now i can but it won't log me on
[23:18] <glitsj16> taylor_: pdftk might do, depends on what uou need i guess
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s , or sudo -i
[23:18] <lazermann> ok
[23:18] <taylor_> I need a c++ library to write pdfs
[23:18] <capiira> sudo su ;)
[23:18] <duvnell> running ubuntu server.. just set up 9.04: dhcpd is effectively not starting on boot.. /var/log/messages shows it starting, then the last thing from it is a blank line in /var/log/messages..   the process is not there.. it will start if I start it manually after boot
[23:18] <nnutter> In trying to find a way to run my laptop cooler I discovered that the command `acpi` doesn't exist. Should I install acpi or does Jaunty use something else?
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> DONT yse 'sudo su' either. :P
[23:19] <muse> taylor_: what are you trying to do?
[23:19] <Quino> if anyone knows how to get avi files to work, could you IM me?
[23:19] <taylor_> Get a c++ library to write PDFs
[23:19] <lazermann> lol =) nautilus worked fine
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> Quino:  i just insgall gmplayer, and the w32codecs from medibuntu, and they normally work.
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> Quino:  its often an issue of the proper codecs being installed.
[23:20] <capiira> sure it does
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu
[23:20] <capiira> its nautilus he knows the way
[23:20] <_CommandeR_> is there any good screen recorder ?
[23:20] <_CommandeR_> for gnome
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  running nautilus as root can be dangerous CLOSE it out as soon as you are done doing the rooty tasks.
[23:20] <capiira> record my desktop
[23:20] <_CommandeR_> capiira, ?
[23:20] <capiira> yes
[23:21] <Sarai> I borked my computer, methinks! I added a partition to my hard drive then decided to delete it. Now grub is throwing Error 17, I can't figure out how to fix it since I can't boot in. Right now I'm on a Mint liveCD...
[23:21] <lazermann> Dr Willis you must be kidding
[23:21] <capiira> the app is called record my desktop
[23:21] <zze86> Hello
[23:21] <kronopio> my computer is now going slow any ideas as to why?
[23:21] <glitsj16> taylor_: besides possible alternatives, what went wrong exactly when trying to compile that ?
[23:21] <_CommandeR_> capiira, does it record wine games aswell ?
[23:21] <taylor_> make file
[23:21] <taylor_> it seemed to go well
[23:21] <capiira> uff dunno im not a fan of wine
[23:21] <p-f> kronopio: run top and sort by cpu usage
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:   using the wrong Natilus window when you think its the 'users' windws when its the root users window.. can be eiather a little problem.. or a HUGE problem...
[23:21] <capiira> never used too
[23:21] <muse> !recordmydesktop
[23:21] <taylor_> maybe I will pastebin the console output
[23:21] <kronopio> p-f: hoq?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:  thats why i suggested using 'mc' in a terminal. for root tasks
[23:21] <glitsj16> taylor_: that would help yes
[23:22] <kronopio> how?
[23:22] <muse> _CommandeR_: recordmydesktop
[23:22] <taylor_> just give me a second :)
[23:22] <capiira> for games i have a ps3 :D
[23:22] <lazermann> ok thanks Dr Willis
[23:22] <lazermann> i closed it already
[23:22] <glitsj16> taylor_: take what you need, time is on your side in my case (slowest one logged in i guess :p)
[23:22] <lazermann> but winamp skin doesn't work
[23:23] <taylor_> haha
[23:23] <taylor_> :)
[23:23] <capiira> hehe then its bad :D
[23:23] <capiira> 2.0 skin
[23:23] <capiira> ?
[23:23] <lazermann> it is seen in preferences but it doesn't work
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> lazermann:   winamp has a lot of skin 'verison/changes' over the last few years
[23:23] <harovali1> hi, how's the way to enable my cell phone's internet connection with my notebook's ubuntu ? (either by usb cable or bluetooth)
[23:23] <capiira> audacious just works with v2 skins
[23:23] <lazermann> i don't know ... it is 'wasabi player' =))))))
[23:23] <kronopio> p-f:  run it where?
[23:24] <JohnDoe1> harovali1: you need to  install software to make your cell a tether moidem
[23:24] <fridrik> po
[23:24] <lazermann> so skins should be not above 2.0 version, rite?
[23:24] <muse> harovali1: blueman
[23:24] <MHz128> how do I make locate search in mounted NTFS drives?
[23:24] <harovali1> JohnDoe1: muse: blueman is the software ?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> MHz128:  "/etc/updatedb.conf"   has  settings for what gets blocked/ignored/added to the 'locate database'
[23:25] <muse> yo connect your phone via bluetooth
[23:25] <zze86> Hello all. Complete Noob here to Ubuntu. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 server edition for some file and print server duties onto an old HP pavilion P3. It goes through the install process fine but it doesn't recognize the NIC card nor the Modem card (no big deal). Being that it's supposedly for server duties it'd be nice to get the NIC card working. :\ Anybody have any ideas on how I can get the ethernet to work?
[23:25] <harovali1> muse: yes , then what ?
[23:25] <pyth> XChat GNOME front-end is super spiff.
[23:25] <MHz128> Dr_Willis, awesome thanks!
[23:25] <glitsj16> taylor_: reading the installation instructions ... seems like only 2 build dependencies, zlib and png ... you have checked both are installed i take it ?
[23:25] <capiira> lazermann, http://customize.org/winamp2
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> MHz128:  by default it does not scan things in /media/
[23:25] <drbobb> hello, doesn't Gnome have a counterpart to KDE's kclipboard utility?
[23:25] <muse> harovali1: I'm looking :)
[23:25] <kronopio> i ran top but i dont know what I am looking at
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> MHz128:  be sure to run 'sudo updatedb' after changing things
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> !info gclipper
[23:26] <lazermann> capira thank you
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> drbobb:  it does.. i just dont rember its name.
[23:26] <capiira> has to be a v2 skin
[23:26] <capiira> and btw use your home for that
[23:26] <ruser> hey gysy, i've got a question i'm runing  jaunty and i want to get 3rd accelleration on my  radeom mobidiliy x14000 i can't seem  to do it.  i tried fgrlx  driver and  the ati  official  version,  and  icna't get my x to work
[23:26] <harovali1> muse: thanks , any hint is welcome
[23:27] <capiira> lazermann, ~/.local/share/audacious/Skins is better
[23:27] <raylu> !ca | ruser
[23:27] <muse> harovali1: I think blueman does the modem part aswell? I will have to install it in a VM to be sure thou
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> drbobb:  glipper - Clipboard manager for the GNOME panel
[23:27] <mano> ok muse, i'm on konversation atm i quite like it! did not enjoy pidgin as much
[23:27] <taylor_> Hmm
[23:27] <taylor_> I think I do
[23:27] <drbobb> Dr_Willis: I'm surprised it's not installed by default, to me kclipboard is easily one of the top 3 most useful features in KDE
[23:27] <taylor_> whats the ubuntu package name for zlib-dev? ill check again
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> drbobb:  they have to squeze out things to get stuff on ONE cd..
[23:27] <kronopio> what is Xorg?
[23:27] <muse> mano: ok cool. You use KDE?
[23:28] <Sarai> Sorry, I don't mean to be a bother, but my computer won't boot! GRUB is throwing an error 17, not sure how to edit the BIOS without being able to boot!
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> edit the bios? - bios settngs come befor GRUB even loads
[23:28] <raylu> !X | kronopio
[23:28] <muse> Sarai: do you have a live cd?
[23:28] <drbobb> Sarai: just finished struggling with grub error 17 2 days ago myself
[23:28] <raylu> taylor_:
[23:29] <raylu> !info zlib1g-dev
[23:29] <macman_> hmm..
[23:29] <glitsj16> taylor_: are you on jaunty ? in any case, here on intrepid it is libpng12-dev and zlib1g-dev
[23:29] <macman_> was i banned from this chan ?
[23:29] <kronopio> http://www.churchilldowns.com/thanjjjs obbutto
[23:29] <Sarai> drbobb , muse : I'm logged in on a mint livecd
[23:29] <coleys> macman_: apparently not =p
[23:29] <mano> gnome i think muse, is that right? i've only had ubuntu 4 days so not really a pro yet lol
[23:29] <macman_> lol
[23:29] <kronopio> i just want to acess media right now
[23:29] <muse> mano: ok fine :)
[23:30] <Enasni> does anyone know how to uninstall GNASH SWF player?
[23:30] <kronopio> whoa sorry about the typoa
[23:30] <capiira> ok time to shave, dont want to look like stallman, have fun lazermann :)
[23:30] <kronopio> typos*
[23:30] <mano> someone told me to learn the gui first then as i get experienced have a play around with terminal and stuff
[23:30] <coleys> Enasni: Disable it in firefox, go Tools > Add Ons > Plugins, and just disable it.
[23:30] <apot> seems my issue is a bug in gnome. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/216104
[23:30] <mano> dont want to run before i can walk
[23:30] <elexodus> HELP! What does "Reclaiming unconnected clusters." mean? It's stuck.
[23:31] <Enasni> coleys: I did disable it, but does that entirely remove it as well?
[23:31] <drbobb> Dr_Willis: glipper seems to be the name
[23:31] <coleys> Enasni: Then install the correct one, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:31] <muse> Sarai: hmm.. I don't think mint has the util I was going to use. Ask drbobb if he can help.
[23:31] <coleys> Enasni: Not to sure about the other opensouce flash plugins =/ Sorry.
[23:31] <Enasni> I already installed flashplugin-nonfree
[23:31] <Enasni> ...
[23:31] <capiira> just dl flash directly from adobe
[23:31] <raylu> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[23:31] <raylu> capiira: negative
[23:31] <capiira> not really
[23:31] <Enasni> coley: I already installed flashplugin-nonfree
[23:31] <capiira> put into your home thats all
[23:32] <raylu> cloakey: that's the transitional plugin. it's flashplugin-installer, but nonfree will get it done
[23:32] <Sarai> muse: I have a Kubuntu and Xubuntu livecd too... I let a friend borrow my Ubuntu cd and forgot to make a new one. Just my luck, right?
[23:32] <kronopio> what is renice
[23:32] <raylu> kronopio: man renice
[23:32] <Enasni> coleys: I downloaded the package from the webpage, and it said it was installed...
[23:32] <muse> Sarai: I think they would work.. let me just check
[23:32] <glitsj16> Enasni: sudo apt-get purge gnash mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash-common gnash-tools should remove gnash completely
[23:32] <coleys> Enasni: I believe you'll have to remove the plugin files from Firefox's install location in the plugins folder.
[23:33] <capiira> ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[23:33] <coleys> Go glitsj16
[23:33] <coleys> :DDD
[23:33] <glitsj16> =)
[23:33] <kronopio> raylu: ?
[23:33] <taylor_> heh
[23:33] <raylu> kronopio: in a terminal, man renice
[23:33] <taylor_> that could have been one of the problems :)
[23:33] <taylor_> I didn't have libpng :)
[23:33] <tmb25> Anyone having the problem when installing nvidia 180 device driver sound is choppy and video is sped up? I could uninstall the device driver and everything works decent, except I only have 800x600 display. This is for 9.04, last release I had no problem
[23:33] <kronopio> raylu: what is man?
[23:34] <glitsj16> taylor_: easily fixed and tried again, goodluck
[23:34] <taylor_> thanks
[23:34] <raylu> kronopio: man man
[23:34] <taylor_> 8.04 btw
[23:34] <raylu> kronopio: in a terminal will answer that too :D
[23:34] <muse> Sarai: ok do you have any thing special in your grub config that you may want to save?
[23:34] <kronopio> raylu: manual?
[23:34] <elexodus> So, I'm reformatting a partitian that's all out of wack. I believe the problem is that the partician was a virgin ext3 format, and I tried to copy the contents of a vFAT drive to it. I did a "fsck -v -y /dev/sdb3", and it ran trough a process, and then froze on "Reclaiming unconnected clusters." Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1410737
[23:34] <raylu> kronopio: it's a reaer for manpages, so yes, i guess
[23:34] <duvnell1> dhcpd starts at boot (seeing /var/log/messages), but apparently dies because it's not in ps list and starting it manually does start it up
[23:34] <raylu> *reader
[23:35] <ricerind> Hey! I've installed ubuntu on my macbook but the touchpad is really sluggish. Can anybody help?
[23:35] <duvnell1> any ideas?
[23:35] <muse> Sarai: I found another way of doing it that you can do from mint
[23:35] <tdizzy> I'm having sound trouble. I have an Acer Aspire X1700. My sound system is plugged in via the optical audio cable on the back. I can get sound if I plug in a standard pair of headphones to the front, but I can't get my sound system to work. How might I fix this problem?
[23:35] <Enasni> glitsj16: thanks! that se eworked
[23:35] <raylu> duvnell1: why does it matter? are you not using networkmanager?
[23:35] <coleys> ricerind: What kind of touchpad?
[23:35] <Sarai> muse: perfect! And no, I've never made a modification to grub
[23:35] <glitsj16> Enasni: you're welcome
[23:35] <Enasni> coleys: thanks again for your help too
[23:35] <sam_> how could i host two different sites ond different ports with lighttpd
[23:35] <Quino> ok i have tried installing mplayer and the w32 codecs and I still cannot get the files to play
[23:35] <muse> Sarai: go to a terminal
[23:35] <kronopio> why do use ubuntu instead of redhat?
[23:35] <raylu> kronopio: because rpms are annoying
[23:35] <coleys> Enasni: Not a problem =)
[23:35] <Sarai> muse: ok
[23:35] <sam_> redhat costs
[23:35] <ricerind> coleys: Some sort of synaptic touchpad. Standard macbook touchpad.
[23:35] <muse> Sarai: sudo grub
[23:36] <elexodus> So, I'm reformatting a partitian that's all out of wack. I believe the problem is that the partician was a virgin ext3 format, and I tried to copy the contents of a vFAT drive to it. I did a "fsck -v -y /dev/sdb3", and it ran trough a process, and then froze on "Reclaiming unconnected clusters." Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1410737
[23:36] <Sarai> muse: ok
[23:36] <kronopio> raylu: whats a rpm
[23:36] <raylu> ricerind: sluggish as in it's too slow? or not responsive somehow?
[23:36] <muse> then: find /boot/grub/stage1
[23:36] <ricerind> was sort of hoping someone here would use a macbook and know what to do
[23:36] <raylu> kronopio: the package format for redhat/fedora/etc.
[23:36] <sam_> ricerind: ill find out for you
[23:36] <muse> it should output some info
[23:36] <ricerind> raylu: doesn't move much, i have to keep dragging it in small increments
[23:36] <drbobb> hmm I installed the glipper applet but it still does not appear in the Add to panel list
[23:36] <lazermann> is there a way to change grub menu colors?
[23:36] <coleys> ricerind: There is most likely a solution, I don't know about macs. Im aware they make all their pieces, but I don't know much else =/\
[23:36] <raylu> ricerind: so it's just slow? system > prefs > mouse
[23:37] <Sarai> muse: got it
[23:37] <kronopio> whats a manual page
[23:37] <Enasni> woohoo! flash actually works now!
[23:37] <muse> fill in the X and Y and enter this: root (hdX,Y)
[23:37] <raylu> kronopio: its... exactly what it sounds like
[23:37] <coleys> lazermann: You can you usplash I think.
[23:37] <coleys> lazermann: use*
[23:38] <tdizzy> Can anyone help me? I'm having a problem getting my optical audio to work?
[23:38] <raylu> kronopio: so earlier, you wanted to know what the "renice" command did. "man renice" will tell you that
[23:38] <lazermann> coleys how?
[23:38] <coleys> lazermann: sudo apt-get install usplash
[23:38] <sam_> how can i have lighttpd host a different site on a different port
[23:38] <coleys> lazermann: Then once installed run it, from Sys>pref> usplash
[23:38] <coleys> lazermann: You'll see colour options there.
[23:38] <ricerind> raylu: I've turned sensitivity and acceleration to maximum and it's better, but I still have to touch it with the flat of my finger. If I use the tip it barely registers
[23:39] <muse> Sarai then: setup (hd0)
[23:39] <muse> are you still with me?
[23:39] <raylu> sam_: http://forum.lighttpd.net/topic/85
[23:39] <chetnick> what is the name of that compiz setting that show all the windows if you let's say go with mouse to top left corner?
[23:39] <Sarai> muse: yep
[23:39] <sam_> thanks
[23:39] <glitsj16> chetnick: scale ?
[23:39] <coleys> chetnick: Edge, you can find settings for it in ubuntu Tweak
[23:39] <Sarai> muse: "Error 12: Invalid device requested"
[23:39] <coleys> chetnick: And you can get Ubuntu Tweak from getdeb.net
[23:39] <ricerind> raylu: And I can't move it accurately either ;(
[23:39] <raylu> sam_: also, consider #ubuntu-server
[23:39] <muse> ok what was your out put to find /boot/grub/stage1?
[23:39] <chetnick> glitsj16: scale shows all workspaces, i need just to show windows, like in mac os x.
[23:40] <tdizzy> Can someone help me get my optical audio working?
[23:40] <raylu> muse: please put the name of the person you're talking to somewhere in your messages
[23:40] <chetnick> glitsj16: never mind, its there.
[23:40] <muse> raylu: ok
[23:40] <elexodus> OK, what does "Warning... fsck.vfat for device /dev/sdb3 exited with signal 9." mean while ffsck'ing a part5itian?
[23:40] <glitsj16> chetnick: k alwyas mix those up
[23:41] <raylu> ricerind: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493758
[23:41] <duvnell1> is there a GUI/point-and-click setup-my-ubuntu-server-as-a-network-router tool?   or do I continue forward with installing bind, dhcpd, enabling ipv4 forwarding, etc myself?
[23:41] <raylu> Sarai: what device did you specify? /boot/grub/device.map may help you
[23:41] <muse> Sarai: what was your output to find /boot/grub/stage1?
[23:41] <taylor_> glitsj16: Yes! it worked. Thanks so much for the help :)
[23:42] <apot> tdizzy: does the rear audio jack like it it you unplug the headphones in the front?
[23:42] <glitsj16> taylor_: nice, very welcome
[23:42] <taylor_> Alright, have a great night guys.
[23:42] <Sarai> muse, raylu : uh, not sure? I know the partition I want is dev/sda
[23:42] <tdizzy> apot, are you asking if the back analog jacks work? if so, yes they do
[23:42] <elexodus> Need fdisk help.
[23:42] <Whyborg_> :(
[23:42] <Enasni> OK, I've been trying to do this for a while. Can someone please help me configure GRUB to load a splash screen?
[23:43] <elexodus> Enasni: what version are you running?
[23:43] <coleys> Enasni: sudo apt-get install usplash
[23:43] <capiira> drbobb, logout and login again this helps
[23:43] <manpoole> brasero hanging during normalizing tracks in 9.04....anyone else?
[23:43] <Wavesonics> uhg, i was just telling my GF how easy and safe Ubuntu makes Linux, finially convince her to install Ubuntu, and after it books she gets "Signal Out Range" on her monitor :/
[23:43] <muse> Sarai: can you type in 'find /boot/grub/stage1' in grub and tell me the output it gives you
[23:43] <apot> tdizzy: can the sound system power up?
[23:43] <Enasni> elexodus , coleys: I am running Ubuntu9.04 x64 and I already typed get usplash... it says it's already installed.
[23:44] <coleys> Enasni: Go to Sys > prefs > usplash (or Administration) forget =p
[23:44] <capiira> drbobb, for the glipper issue
[23:44] <Sarai> muse: (hd0,0)
[23:44] <apot> going though A+ troubleshooting...
[23:44] <nnutter> In trying to find a way to run my laptop cooler I discovered that the command `acpi` doesn't exist. Should I install acpi or does Jaunty use something else?
[23:44] <ricerind> raylu: brb checking new config
[23:44] <kronopio> what is thunderbird, is it lke outlook express
[23:44] <tdizzy> apot, yes. it appears that the problem I am having is that the optical/digital device is not showing anywhere
[23:44] <muse> now type 'root (hd0,0)'
[23:44] <drbobb> capiira: yeah I guess. but I thought we were beyond that
[23:44] <elexodus> Enasni: tried gfxboot?
[23:44] <coleys> kronopio: thunderbird is a email client created by Mozilla the creators of firefox.
[23:44] <raylu> kronopio: yes, but without the fail
[23:44] <manpoole> will the brasero bug when burning an audio cd be fixed?
[23:44] <Enasni> coleys: I head what you were telling lazermann and i looked in the sys dir and there was no prefs directory
[23:44] <capiira> :) not 2050 yet
[23:45] <Enasni> elexodus: what is gfxboot?
[23:45] <muse> Sarai: then 'setup (hd0)'
[23:45] <coleys> Enasni: Are you in xubuntu?
[23:45] <kronopio> i have downloaded it but I dont know ow to use it
[23:45] <glitsj16> ricerind: could be pointing this to the wrong person, but if you are having trouble with touchpad, look into enabling shmconfig and use GUI app to configure (again, please ignore if this isn't making any sense)
[23:45]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por el momento
[23:45] <kronopio> could someone hlep me
[23:45] <Enasni> coleys: No, I should be running regular ubuntu
[23:45] <mattgirv> kronopio: Evolution is good too
[23:45] <Sarai> muse: that's what I typed last time
[23:45] <elexodus> Enasni: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Ft-11478.html&ei=z8z8SberG6LhtgfL56XGCg&usg=AFQjCNFgbG1ew1pITkixSDH5_OT0f8kP2w
[23:45] <apot> hmm, if this is under ubuntu, i cant help you install drivers, which is what i would assume your problem is
[23:45] <capiira> drbobb, you can also kill some gnome deamon to rebuild the panels without loging in and out but forgot which one
[23:46] <coleys> kronopio: What services does your email provider supply, pop3, or imap?
[23:46] <elexodus> Enasni: Actually, this one is better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[23:46] <ienorand> Enasni: What do you see on boot then?
[23:46] <kronopio> um imp I guess
[23:46] <kronopio> coleys: imp?
[23:46] <elexodus> Anybody wanna help me properly edit my fstab?
[23:46] <raylu> kronopio: that wasn't an option, and it apparently wasn't a typo on your part either
[23:46] <coleys> kronopio: uhmm.. imap or pop 3? =p
[23:46] <Enasni> ienorand: I am looking for a GRUB bootloader splash. I see a plain black screen.
[23:47] <raylu> elexodus: what do you want it to do?
[23:47] <elexodus> Enasni: check out GFXboot.
[23:47] <kronopio> coleys: I dont know what my email provider is
[23:47] <coleys> kronopio: is it like @gmail.com, or @hotmail.com
[23:47] <usser> Enasni, i'd suggest switching to grub2, it supports png files as backgrounds natively
[23:47] <elexodus> raylu: I have a partitian that isn't cooperazting, and I think it needs to be entered in the fstab...
[23:47] <coleys> kronopio: Dont give me the whole email, just after the @
[23:48] <raylu> elexodus: ok... more specific please?
[23:48] <kronopio> i have multiple
[23:48] <Enasni> elexodus: this method updates GRUB?
[23:48] <tdizzy> apot, do you know how I might fix my problem?
[23:48] <muse> Sarai: can you pastebin me the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[23:48] <ienorand> Enasni: Ah, sorry.
[23:48] <kronopio> @gmail.com
[23:48] <coleys> kronopio: Which do you @hotmail won't work actually.
[23:48] <elexodus> Enasni: sort of, it replaces GRUB.
[23:48] <liz> hey guys . i have an "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[23:48] <coleys> kronopio: For @gmail I would suggest using imap
[23:48] <manpoole> on my panel all of the icons that control stuff have dissappeared the only one visible is the time shutdown and sound
[23:48] <liz> im wandering how do i get sound to work?
[23:48] <Sarai> muse: ok, just a sec
[23:48] <usser> Enasni, http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/12/16/how-to-grub2-and-grub-pc-installing-splash-images/
[23:48] <manpoole> how do i get them back?
[23:48] <ricerind> raylu: THANK YOU! It works now! I just had to boost the sensitivity in gsynaptics.
[23:48] <drbobb> any idea why the Songbird music player isn't in Ubuntu's repos?
[23:48] <coleys> kronopio: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=75725
[23:48] <lazermann> how to use usplash? or startup manager is kind of the same?
[23:49] <kronopio> ok imap.  I use it with thnderbird?
[23:49] <coleys> kronopio: Yeah, imap is a better choice read the link above.
[23:49] <tdizzy> can anyone help me with my optical audio problems?
[23:49] <coleys> kronopio: Once enabled Ill send you your next link.
[23:49] <Sarai> muse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/163154/
[23:49] <capiira> suse has a nice selection menu for grub
[23:49] <apot> based on what information i have, i would guess that your sound system needs drivers that aren't installed yet
[23:49] <capiira> dunno what they use
[23:49] <elexodus> raylu: Ok, I have a 1TB drive that I am setting up under sbd. It is split into 2 partitions, one is ext3, and the othert was originally ext3. It tells me that the second partition is now vfat... So, I need some help clarifying this with the fstab.
[23:50] <memmo> so i've been looking at options for a storage server that also will handle streaming media (video and other files to a squeezebox and also a popcorn hour video player) -- Windows Home Server, a Drobo connected to my mac, Openfiler, Freenas etc -- but I'm wondering about doing a full install of ubuntu so I get a GUI (I'm not that familiar with linux), and setting up a couple shares via nfs/smb -- any reason not to do
[23:50] <apot> if it powers up and the audio port tests to be working properly
[23:50] <tdizzy> apot, would I need different drivers for digital capability than for analog?
[23:50] <raylu> elexodus: er, fstab isn't going to help with that. what is "it"
[23:50] <kronopio> i found evolution
[23:50] <tdizzy> apot, analog devices work fine, but it's the digital one that does not
[23:50] <coleys> kronopio: evolutions sucks bawls
[23:50] <lazermann> how to use usplash?
[23:50] <kronopio> and sain imap
[23:50] <kronopio> said*
[23:50] <Enasni> elexodus: I am running x64.
[23:51] <kronopio> tls sls encryption
[23:51] <kronopio> or*
[23:51] <elexodus> Enasni: not familiar, but it should work...
[23:51] <coleys> kronopio: Imap... with SSL port 993
[23:51] <coleys> kronopio: the imap server is imap.gmail.com
[23:51] <Enasni> elexodus: the installer you referenced comes back with i386 architecture is incompatible
[23:51] <muse> Sarai: sorry I don't know what the prob is.. perhaps boot into xubuntu live and try what I said there?
[23:51] <Sarai> muse: okay
[23:51] <kronopio> it wont allow me the forward key
[23:51] <elexodus> raylu: "it" would be the terminal after I tried a few different commands.
[23:51] <Sarai> muse: I'll be back in a bit, then
[23:51] <coleys> kronopio: Which is your first language?
[23:51] <muse> sure
[23:52] <manpoole> my 3rd party desktop notification icons have all disappeared and will not come back in gnome how do i fix this?
[23:52] <kronopio> english
[23:52] <elexodus> Enasni: out of my league
[23:52] <raylu> elexodus: the specific commands would be nice.
[23:52] <kronopio> in computer python
[23:52] <elexodus> raylu: looking
[23:52] <kronopio> but  I can barely speak it
[23:52] <Enasni> elexodus: how do i reinstall grub then
[23:52] <coleys> kronopio: Whats your main language =p? Im having trouble understanding
[23:52] <apot> tdizzy: circumstantially, i would say you need different drivers, other possible though improbable causes would be lacking OS, hardware, or firmware support
[23:52] <kronopio> coleys: engish
[23:53] <coleys> kronopio: Okay lets speak it then... which email client do you want to use?
[23:53] <kronopio> thunderbird
[23:53] <coleys> kronopio: thunderbird, or Evolution.
[23:53] <tdizzy> apot, so I do need additional drivers for optical audio support?
[23:53] <coleys> okay.
[23:53] <muse> Enasni: follow what I said to Sarai
[23:53] <coleys> kronopio: Read this it'll give you all instructions-- > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662
[23:54] <coleys> kronopio: Good luck =)
[23:54] <ienorand> drbobb: some info https://bugs.launchpad.net/songbird/+bug/94494
[23:54] <apot> tdizzy, i wouldnt say additional, just different. I hope you have documentation for your audio device.
[23:55] <drbobb> ienorand: thx
[23:55] <elexodus> raylu: looks like I got it. Thanks for your help.
[23:55] <kronopio> coleys:  ihave to take a break
[23:55] <Enasni> muse: I did sudo apt-get install grub
[23:55] <coleys> kronopio: Do it then =) Just follow the steps one by one, and you'll have setup thunderbird...
[23:56] <Enasni> muse: will that work?
[23:56] <tdizzy> apot, I found the proper ALSA drivers for my card. I'm entirely sure they're correct. I just can't seem get the optical audio to work. Unless I need a different driver for digital than for analog, my driver is correct.
[23:56] <muse> Enasni: ok now type in 'sudo grub' in the terminal
[23:56] <Enasni> muse: ok i am in grub
[23:57] <muse> tpye 'find /boot/grub/stage1'
[23:57] <LastArms> Can I request for help here?
[23:57] <manpoole> my desktop notification icons are not visible how can i troubleshoot this issue?
[23:58] <elexodus> manpoole: screenshot?
[23:58] <LastArms> Rhythm box kept on requesting for application/x-sqlite3. I've already installed sqlite3. Is there anything I can do?
[23:58] <Enasni> muse: hd0,4
[23:58] <manpoole> surething
[23:58] <raylu> elexodus: er, np :P
[23:58] <muse> Enasni: then 'root (hd0,4)'
[23:58] <Sarai> muse : I'm back- booted into Xubuntu and ran setup(hd0) for grub- still nothing
[23:58] <elexodus> raylu: actually, I have another problem...
[23:59] <Enasni> it repeated it.
[23:59] <manpoole> elexodus any sites like pastebin for screenshots?
[23:59] <Enasni> muse: it repeated root (hd0,4)
[23:59] <muse> Enasni: 'setup (hd0)'
[23:59] <muse> tpyr that in and then wuit grub
[23:59] <elexodus> raymanpoolelu: I always use photobucket.
[23:59] <muse> Sarai: have you changed root?
[23:59] <manpoole> my flickr account has a max of so many megabytes and i usually have my photos displayed there
[23:59] <Enasni> it says done
[23:59] <Sarai> muse: not that I know of?
[23:59] <Enasni> muse: the setup completed
[23:59] <muse> Enasni: yip


[19:58] <oyemohit> Hi there, I am in serious need of help. I loaded Ubuntu 17.10 today, tried some tweaking so as to fix slow downloading speed. Eventually I ended up with frequent random disconnections and then "no wifi adapter found" kind of errors
[20:00] <oyemohit> If somebody with expertise could help, Kindly please
[20:02] <oyemohit> I have reinstalled it just now, and it is still not working
[20:02] <oyemohit> Reinstalled Ubuntu 17.10


[02:30] <n-iCe> hi
[13:19] <LucidDreamer> test
[13:22] <LucidDreamer> Sorry, didn't mean to send that.. using weechat for the first time and it's pretty confusing for me haha
[13:23] <leszek> weechat is cool
[13:24] <LucidDreamer> I know, it's by far the best IRC client I've used so far
[13:49] <zleap> LucidDreamer: no problem
[13:50] <zleap> yeah weechat is nice,  advange being cli too is that if you're gui does go wrong,  you have a way to ask for help
[22:19] <Radagast_> Hello everyone, I'm pretty new to Linux and Lubuntu and need a little help.  I have yakkety on a laptop I have ignored for a while and I'm having trouble updating.  Yakkety no longer has updates to go forward.  Do I need to add a repository or PPA and if so how do I do that?  Should I change something in my sources.list ?  I would love to not have to start over with another CD( this laptop will only boot from CD ). Thanks in advanc
[22:20] <wxl> !EoL | Radagast_
[22:21] <Radagast_> I have some reading to do now. thanks


[00:11]  * erUSUL another factoid edit that falls through the (widening) cracks :'(
[00:15] <Pici> !no vpn is <reply>From more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[02:39] <Shazzamy_> hey, can  i be tested manually?
[02:41] <Flannel> Shazzamy_: You seem to have failed your last one, fix the problem and get retested
[02:42] <Shazzamy_> ok
[02:42] <Shazzamy_> i already upgraded my router firmware but i guess i needed to do the other things
[02:43] <Flannel> Shazzamy_: Try reconnecting on port 8001
[02:43] <Shazzamy_> i tried but i'lll try again
[02:45] <Shazzamy_> can you trying to test me again please?
[02:45] <Flannel> Looks like yo're all taken care of now.
[02:46] <Shazzamy_> ok thank you
[02:46] <Shazzamy_> have a great day/afternoon/night
[03:28] <Flannel> !scope > magikid
[04:18] <MenZa> woooow.
[04:21] <MenZa> Pici: +m?
[04:22] <Pici> hm?
[04:22] <MenZa> Nevermind, it appears to have died down
[04:22] <MenZa> I was half expecting a wave 2
[04:23] <nalioth> patience folks
[04:30] <MenZa> nalioth: bring your fellow opers a set of kudos from here.
[04:30] <nalioth> MenZa: will do
[05:14] <nalioth> mind your manners, more company is coming
[05:15]  * MenZa grabs his seat.
[05:15] <nalioth> i think you'd want to grab a @
[05:16] <MenZa> I don't have access in #ubuntu, nalioth.
[05:16] <MenZa> Pici - still around?
[05:16] <nalioth> nah, it's cool
[05:16] <nalioth> you might have ops in other target channels
[05:16] <MenZa> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <MenZa> this is a target? :o
[05:17] <nalioth> idk where you have ops
[05:17] <nalioth> other than -ot
[05:18] <MenZa> nowhere important.
[08:13] <MenZa> !-amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic
[08:13] <MenZa> :/
[08:13] <Amaranth> I don't have a factoid
[08:16] <jussi01> anymore...
[08:17] <jussi01> MenZa: amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <jussi01> 	<deleted><reply>Why so serious?	Amaranth!n=travis@ubuntu/membe
[08:17] <jussi01> added on: 2009-03-11 01:35:23 Requested 12 times
[08:18] <MenZa> Amaranth: I was checking to see whether that was still there :P
[11:21] <Amaranth> Well that's a scary thought
[11:21] <Amaranth> That guy didn't join and flood right away
[11:21] <Amaranth> He joined and was idle for some time (lastlog doesn't even show him joining)
[11:22] <jussi01> Amaranth: have you tried talking to him?
[11:23] <Amaranth> nah, the only thing in my lastlog from him is that flood
[11:23] <jussi01> Amaranth: still worth a go...
[11:23] <Amaranth> and I don't remember him ever talking before
[11:23] <Amaranth> alright
[11:24] <Amaranth> huh, you were right, that was a good idea
[11:25] <elky> oh yay, sleepers.
[11:26] <Amaranth> nah, apparently he was trying to paste somewhere else and hit a button that switched to offtopic before hitting the paste command
[11:31] <elky> laptop synaptic pads are good for that
[11:59] <jussi01> Amaranth: glad it got sorted :)
[12:04] <ikonia> thank you maco
[12:04] <maco> np
[14:37] <MenZa> !3gp is <alias> !codecs
[14:37] <MenZa> Someone commit that? ^
[14:38] <Pici> !3gp is <alias> codecs
[14:38] <MenZa> thankye, Pici
[17:04] <ikonia> I'm going to speak to Umeaboy in pm - his idea of support is very dubious
[17:24] <MenZa> sometimes the language barrier in #ubuntu makes it *really* difficult to be helpful in any way.
[18:13] <MenZa> Pici: I giggled a bit.
[18:14]  * genii feeds Pici more caffeine
[18:14] <Pici> I don't even think that 'gnome' is a process.
[18:14] <MenZa> that's why I giggled.
[18:14] <Pici> *that* isn't funny though.
[18:14] <Amaranth> guy was screwing around in devel too
[18:15] <Amaranth> also we have limits setup properly in ubuntu to make forkbombs fail, don't we?
[18:15] <Pici> I didn't think so.
[18:15] <Amaranth> I'm not going to test
[18:15] <Pici> me either
[18:15] <Pici> I don't have a disposable computer here to test on anyway.
[18:17] <Amaranth> !keyserver
[18:17] <Amaranth> hmm, thought we had that factoid already
[18:17] <genii> !keys
[18:17] <Pici> !search keyserver
[18:18] <Amaranth> guess not
[18:18] <Amaranth> worth adding?
[18:18] <genii> !gpgerr
[18:19] <Pici> I also think theres a compact version of that, but it may not work on all releases
[18:19] <Amaranth> yeah, in karmic you can add PPAs with one simple command
[18:20] <Amaranth> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 12345678
[18:20] <Amaranth> that's probably what you were thinking of
[18:20] <Amaranth> It should work in all releases, afaik
[18:20] <Pici> yes
[18:20] <genii> Is the key server guntbert mentions an officially sanctioned one?
[18:20] <Pici> Hardy is the one I'm worred about
[18:20] <Amaranth> right, pretty sure it works there too
[18:20] <Pici> genii: Its worked for me in the past, but I don't know how they're synced.
[18:21] <Amaranth> genii: I think it's just one of the official ones
[18:21] <Pici> Like if you publish your key there, does it get to keyserver.u.com
[18:21] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[18:22]  * Pici watches the converation in -devel too
[18:22] <Amaranth> hehe, epic stuff
[18:23] <Amaranth> desktop guys are starting to get upset with the design team
[18:23]  * MenZa is tempted.
[18:24] <MenZa> Amaranth, Pici: open channel?
[18:24] <Pici> MenZa: what?
[18:24] <MenZa> -devel.
[18:24] <Amaranth> #ubuntu-devel is, yes
[18:24] <MenZa> woo.
[18:24] <Pici> Anyone can join, but its probably best in this case to let them talk it out and not interrupt
[18:24] <MenZa> certainly.
[18:24] <Pici> Most of the #ubuntu-* channels are open
[18:24] <Amaranth> unless you're a developer
[18:25] <Pici> right
[18:25] <Pici> I can only think of one thats not.
[18:25] <Pici> unless you're Amaranth
[18:26]  * Amaranth has been involved in the whole discussion :P
[18:28] <MenZa> I can name a few, Pici :P
[18:28] <MenZa> well, two at least.
[18:28] <Pici> MenZa: is one of them this channel?
[18:28] <MenZa> depending on your definition of closed
[18:28] <MenZa> yes.
[18:29] <Pici> I wasn't actually counting here.
[18:29] <MenZa> ah.
[18:29] <MenZa> I was thinking this and -irc-council
[18:29] <Pici> I was thinking more development related.
[18:30] <MenZa> aha
[19:31] <Tm_T> genii: dum-di-dum ?
[19:32] <genii> Tm_T: They were already given an !ot warning earlier, etc etc
[19:33] <Tm_T> aye, was wondering this "dum" word there, dumb?
[19:34] <genii> Tm_T: Yes... I think they were upset no one wanted to chat with them in support channel, started saying everyone is "dum"   etc
[19:36] <Tm_T> hu-mans are weird
[21:23] <guntbert> Hi, I want to edit my "keyserver" proposal: I looked into it and maybe https://keyserver.pgp.com/ is a better alternative to keyserver.ubuntu.com when it is unreachable again (as it is right now :-))


[16:27] <dobey> how does one copy packages from ubuntu archive into a ppa, on launchpad web site? or does one need to use some cli tool?
[17:08] <sidi> Hitting an issue with a slightly weird package which I suspect might be LP specific. I need one of my packages to have a file in /usr/local/bin/ (can explain why if necessary). I'm currently adding the file to my *install files, overriding dh_usrlocal so it doesn't complain, and dh_gencontrol is failing my package because I have files in /usr/local (build log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220540588/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.libpreload-logger_0.23_BUI
[17:08] <sidi> LDING.txt.gz). Works fine on my machine with debuild so not sure why LP refuses it (other than files in /usr/local being very very bad)
[17:08] <sidi> hm, silly IRC client... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220540588/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.libpreload-logger_0.23_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:10] <dobey> why do you need that in /usr/local/bin?
[17:12] <sidi> dobey, i'm using a library for data collection on ubuntu systems (part of a scientific study), that library is incompatible with internals of Chrome's NativeClient and seccomp2 sandboxes (for a lot of reasons, some of which we haven't figured out yet). I'm adding a /usr/local/bin/chromium-browser script that turns the library off and then calls the real chromium
[17:12] <sidi> we can provide support to study participants if that doesn't work for them, but I need to start that study before the end of the week or I'm losing some of my funding, so I don't have time to do things the proper way
[17:13] <sidi> and running my own chromium-browser package means lots more admin work since it's a package that is often updated, with the risk that participants update their packages before I get to update my own PPA package, go back to the real chromium and end up with a browser that doesn't work any more
[17:17] <dobey> i don't know why launchpad builder gives you an error if sbuild works fine locally (you did build with sbuild locally, right?), as i don't know enough about the builder configuration to answer
[17:17] <sidi> it does work locally with "debuild"
[17:22] <sidi> cjwatson, i'm curious if you know the way out of that one... ^ (TLDR: need a file installed in /usr/local but LP specifically refuses to build packages with files in there)
[20:55] <cjwatson> dobey: it's not discoverable, but you can do it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages
[20:57] <cjwatson> sidi: NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 dh_builddeb, although that will have some other effects like suppressing changelog stripping and png optimisation
[20:57] <cjwatson> sidi: you would be able to reproduce it locally if pkgbinarymangler were in your chroot
[20:58] <cjwatson> sidi: there's another approach though, you could install /usr/bin/chromium-browser and use dpkg-divert in your maintainer scripts to divert the real one aside - a little harder to get right but not by very much, and more reliable in the face of things like different PATH ordering
[21:05] <sidi> cjwatson, i am totally positive that i didnt understand your last suggestion
[21:06] <cjwatson> sidi: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html
[21:06] <cjwatson> I appreciate you're in a rush, just it may be worth knowing of better approaches
[21:08] <sidi> ok, that sounds like the proper way to do things, i'm actually pleased there is a mechanism for it
[21:08] <sidi> but let me try the "easy" way first, though
[21:10] <sidi> cjwatson, are you saying I should change my rules to override the dh_builddeb step and make sure NO_PKG_MANGLE is set to 1, or I should locally build packages this way and then upload binary packages?
[21:12] <cjwatson> sidi: Launchpad will never accept binary package uploads
[21:12] <cjwatson> sidi: so I mean the former
[21:13] <sidi> Alright, let me try that
[21:17] <dobey> you could just "export NO_PKG_MANGLE=1" in debian/rules i guess, no?
[21:18] <cjwatson> you could, but I wouldn't.
[21:19] <cjwatson> better to be narrow.
[21:19] <cjwatson> that variable does things to other stages as well.
[21:20] <cjwatson> (notably dh_strip / debugging symbols)
[21:33] <dobey> oh
[21:35] <sidi> i'm sometimes genuinely amazed by the amount of knowledge you have of debian packaging...
[21:37] <sidi> I must've done something stupid, but https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220563791/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.libpreload-logger_0.25_BUILDING.txt.gz is what I get with NO_PKG_MANGLE=1
[21:37] <sidi> "dpkg-deb: error: failed to open package info file `debian/libpreload-logger1/DEBIAN/control' for reading: No such file or directory"
[21:40] <sidi> Do I need to manually move my control files in my install step?
[21:52] <cjwatson> sidi: wuh what
[21:52] <cjwatson> sidi: I'll look in a bit, you have a disastrously broken rules file somehow
[21:52] <cjwatson> dh_builddeb being called waaaaaay too early
[21:54] <cjwatson> sidi: override_dh_builddeb not override dh_builddeb
[21:54] <cjwatson> underscore not space
[21:56] <cjwatson> if you ever find yourself having to muck about in .../DEBIAN/ directly during a build then you have done something wrong :-)
[21:58] <sidi> oh god did I do that again?
[21:58] <sidi> cjwatson, i sincerely apologise, i'm not exactly sober at this time of day
[22:15] <sidi> cjwatson, seems it's working properly
[22:16] <sidi> thank you for being up this late :-)
[23:39] <cjwatson> sidi: cool cool