[06:14] <kiosk> what controls system  time connnstants in linux
[06:15] <ajax4> Can anyone recommend a good video editor?
[06:15] <khermans__> omegacenti, just follow what that link I gave you said, but yes
[06:15] <finn> so is anyone running gutsy yet?  i'm trying to work out if i want to upgrade from feisty to see what it's like
[06:15] <khermans__> omegacenti, then you need to update and install the package
[06:15] <khermans__> ajax4, kino, cinelerra
[06:15] <n2diy> kiosk: the crystal that sets the clock speed?
[06:16] <khermans__> finn, im upgrading now
[06:16] <Nutubuntu> If I understand LVM properly, it would let me allocate a "pool" of blocks (I forget what it calls them) that I could then give to a logical volume, without regard to where the physical blocks actually live. But I don't know if I'm understanding it properly.
[06:16] <kiosk> didn't mess with it
[06:16] <willmacleod> good topic finn :) is anybody having any outstanding problems i should know about b4 i upgrade?
[06:16] <kiosk> Installed a new  power battery though
[06:16] <ajax4> khermans__: Thanks
[06:16] <khermans__> willmacleod, i heard good things fomr a few people who upgraded
[06:16] <kiosk> My  clock goes though a minute every  15 seconds
[06:16] <willmacleod> khermans : alright im doin it lol
[06:17] <khermans__> kiosk, check your PIT
[06:17] <finn> well, the update-manager doesn't work yet, but swapping each fesity for gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list loads all the sources right
[06:17] <kiosk> PIT?
[06:17] <n2diy> kiosk: are you over clocking?
[06:17] <khermans__> kiosk, there is a PIT option to the kernel
[06:17] <finn> it's just a matter of updating 770 packages or so :)
[06:17] <kiosk> no   TP600 laptop
[06:17] <eric> can anyone help me out using rsync?
[06:17] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, ok, i am having conflicting reports, i finally got it accessing xstartup, and i see that its accessing my xauthority files and such, and when i put xterm in my xstartup i get an xterm window in the vnc'ed thing, however, i cannot get a window manager for anything.
[06:17] <kiosk> that for o-clocking?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  did ya use 'xterm &' ? or just 'xterm'
[06:18] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i did an &
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !ask
[06:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:18] <kiosk> how do you   set kerrnel options again?
[06:18] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, what command actually starts up the ubuntu desktop
[06:19] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, or the login in screen or w/e for that matter.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  Interesting. try running 'gnome-session' from the terminal
[06:19] <racter> hi - can anyone recommend a gigabit ethernet card (pci) ?
[06:19] <racter> (that works well with ubuntu)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  'gnome-session' is the commnd for gnome.
[06:19] <CokeMan> Dr_willis,  i did, and oddly enough, it tells me i already have one open
[06:19] <Unr3sistabl3> how can i get my ubuntu disk to boot on my laptop
[06:19] <eric> ok then, lol... how do i merge dirA with dirB using rsycn? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  ahh.. You got gnome running on your desktop you are usiong, then again inthe vnc session?
[06:19] <omegacenti> Sometimes linux is just so great.. Especially when somehow my download speeds are ALWAYS faster in Ubuntu...
[06:20] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, thats what i thought, so then i logged out and tried it, same effect
[06:20] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, unless the GUI login screen would be running under "my account"
[06:20] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: set your bios to boot from the cd before the hard drive.
[06:20] <Unr3sistabl3> it gives me an error saying "Cannot Boot From CD - Try CD2 or Update BIOS
[06:21] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: might be a bad burn on the cd?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  i dont think so. Could try another window manager like icewm
[06:21] <NortonX> is it possible to get 3d acceleration running under ubuntu for my SiS card?
[06:21] <portaGeek> is there any reason why I would be having a hard time installing mysql-admin? I can't find the package
[06:21] <Unr3sistabl3> hold on
[06:21] <Unr3sistabl3> let me try to do it again
[06:21] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, so what then? apt-get install icewm and run icewm from the xterm window that i get?
[06:22] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: reduce the right speed on the burn, sometimes that helps.
[06:22] <portaGeek> !ubotu mysql-admin
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql-admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Unr3sistabl3> i dont think that it was the burn though
[06:22] <eric> !rsync
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Unr3sistabl3> because we tested it on my friends computer nd it worked
[06:23] <Frogzoo> Unr3sistabl3: check the md5sum of the cd
[06:23] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: my burner claims to be 14x, but I only burn a 6x.
[06:23] <NortonX> !sis
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Unr3sistabl3> how do i check the md5sum of the cd?
[06:23] <MTecknology> I removed vmware-player through synaptic before trying to install vmware server but the vmware server still thinks vmware-player is installed. How do I fix this?
[06:24] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: bad news. i think dist-upgrade is doing exactly what you advised me against- installing 2.6.20-16
[06:24] <DrStrangeLov> i don't know what else to do- obviously the xorg-xserver version were upgraded when i did the apt-get upgrade
[06:24] <Frogzoo> Unr3sistabl3: something like sudo md5sum /dev/cdrom - should match the .iso's md5sum
[06:25] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: you might have to use the --purge option (not sure what that is in synaptic) to make sure all config files are removed too. maybe the server is seeing leftover config
[06:25] <vectknop> Unr3sistabl3: get the md5 from same site you get the iso; k3b will show you the md5 when it loads the iso before it burns the cd
[06:26] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, well you can boot any kernel you like
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> can anyone tell me how to return to the previous config- with the old xorg-xserver software and drivers?
[06:26] <eric> how would i merge dirA with dirB? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[06:26] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop.
[06:26] <mister_roboto> DrStrangeLov: look in /etc/X11 for old xorg.conf files with timestamp extensions
[06:26] <n2diy> DrStrangeLov: Look for the back up file, should look like xorg.config~
[06:26] <re-align> Hmm...where'd the Ubuntu Community Docs go?
[06:26] <vectknop> Unr3sistabl3: compare the two numbers [one from iso site vs one that k3b reads from iso just before it burns]
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: yeah- i tried doing that just now- using 2.6.20-12
[06:26] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: can I do that w/ something else?
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> still wont work
[06:27] <re-align> All I can find through the officil and community site is the official docs...
[06:27] <newb_prob> if /dev/video0 does not exist, does it mean my webcam is not yet recognized?
[06:27] <re-align> The official docs, of course, don't help with my current problem...
[06:27] <gravemind> DrStrangeLov: khermans__: This is a good read for doing awesome stuff with CLI: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/05/21/a-day-without-x/
[06:27] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: well from the command line it's "apt-cache remove --purge <pgkname>"
[06:27] <zoltak> just wondering if you can get Beryl on 7.04 PPC?
[06:28] <finn> newb_prob, try installing camorama to check
[06:28] <Jocelyn> fuck
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Jocelyn
[06:28] <ubotu> Jocelyn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:28] <newb_prob> finn: how does that help me? it just tells that it can't connect tot /dev';video0
[06:28] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: is there a ".vmware" or something similar in your home dir? if so, you could just remove it or rename it. usually user config files are stored in the user's home dir in a .xxx subdirectory
[06:29] <re-align> I'm trying to get images off an old digital camera. Problem is tht it uses the serial port instead of USB (my USB port os DOA anyway...)
[06:29] <finn> ok, well, do you have the name of the webcam?
[06:29] <newb_prob> yes, logitech orbit mp, and I have installed linux-uvc
[06:29] <zoltak> Does Aiprot on a PowerBook G4 1.67 Mhz work with 7.04
[06:29] <newb_prob> finn: but I can't get /dev/video0 to appears
[06:29] <newb_prob> finn: so neither xawtv, camE, qcam, nor camorama is much use at this point
[06:29] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: ya, there's one there...
[06:29] <billyd> If it's anything like a PalmPilot, you have to open up the serial port
[06:30] <kiosk> \
[06:30] <re-align> billyd, how would I do that?
[06:30] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: if you wanna be conservative, rename it, like: mv ~/.vmware ~/.vmware.old
[06:31] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I'm looking into your link, thx
[06:31] <finn> do you have the vendor id and product id from lsusb?
[06:31] <billyd> I don't remember now, but look at the PalmPilot HowTO at www.tldc.org
[06:31] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: my guess is the install program sees that config dir and is assuming it's installed
[06:31] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: there's a vmware folder too, get rid of that too?
[06:31] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: if you have already uninstalled everything vmware related, then yes. if you're not sure, you can just rename it
[06:31] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: .vmware was a directory
[06:32] <crackintosh> is compiz available for powerpc? google didnt help me.
[06:32] <re-align> billyd, link broken.
[06:32] <re-align> That domain can't be found. :(
[06:32] <DrStrangeLov> ok, even with the earliest most basic backup of xorg.conf i am getting an error- the detailed log says that the framebuffer device is missing.
[06:32] <billyd> How easy or difficult is installing Kubuntu in place of Suse 10.1??  I'm looking something more multimedia friendly
[06:32] <gravemind> v3n0m`: cool. I hope it works
[06:33] <levander> DrStrangeLov: isn't there an option when you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that lets you turn on or off some software framebuffer?
[06:33] <mister_roboto> billyd: it's easy. just tell the installer to format that partition and install over it :)
[06:33] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to do a cdromless install (from iso, other media) from WITHIN ubuntu, to a new partition? like install... this one is screwed cause it wasnt actually installed from this hardware
[06:33] <levander> billyd: download the Kubuntu install CD, and boot off it.  You can run Kubuntu (or any Ubuntu) straight from the install CD as a LiveCD
[06:34] <billyd> I was hoping to be able to install wwithout re-formatting my partitions
[06:34] <Kai-laptop> vmware wont compile, so thats out of the picture
[06:34] <levander> billyd: booting the Install CD will tell you if you have any hardware incompatibities (which is the hard part)
[06:34] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I'm using an admin nautilus to search for vmware
[06:34] <DrStrangeLov> levander: there is- ok, i'll turn it on and see what happens
[06:34] <MTecknology> i'll see if there's an extra config or something
[06:34] <fog_proxy> wols: I have tried. init.d/rc.local is working, but /etc/rc.local not
[06:35] <levander> billyd: i don't know the limitations of the program, but there's a program called parted (with a kde front-end available called kparted) that lets you resize partitions if you want to look into that
[06:35] <billyd> This computer was built for a Linux install - Monarch
[06:35] <omegacenti> Is there a way to run My windows XP partition at the same time as Ubuntu? (I want to run a window with Windows in it inside ubuntu)
[06:35] <ajax4> omegacenti: Use vmware
[06:35] <levander> omegacenti: Xen
[06:35] <omegacenti> levander: Xen?
[06:35] <levander> ajax4: why are you recommended vmware over xen?
[06:35] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to install from ubuntu with a cd iso, to another partition? like with chroot or something? or a way to launch the installer within ubuntu?
[06:36] <omegacenti> !Xen
[06:36] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[06:36] <ajax4> levander: Don't have any experience with Xen, but I have used vmware.
[06:36] <levander> ah
[06:36] <billyd> I do need to resize if possible.  I used g4u to clone a 120G disk to a 160 G sso I only got 120G usable at this time
[06:36] <ajax4> levander: What makes Xen better?
[06:36] <levander> i have no experience with either, but know Canonical's done some work integrating Xen into Ubuntu, and that's Xen's free software
[06:37] <Kai-laptop> anyone?
[06:37] <omegacenti> levander: Mind getting me started in the right direction if I am using Feisty?
[06:37] <ajax4> omegacenti: xen and vmware are Windows virtual machines, which essentially work like emulators.
[06:37] <levander> billyd: is the extra 40 GB partitioned or unpartitioned?
[06:37] <levander> omegacenti: i've never used it, search the wiki??
[06:37] <omegacenti> levander: I iwll try. Thanks.
[06:37] <billyd> It's unpartitioned.
[06:38] <dnl> What is the proper way to insert other operating systems (i.e. Windows) into Grub in Ubuntu so that the grub-update script doesn't remove the entry on an automatic kernel upgrade?
[06:38] <billyd> g4u will only clone 0 so I got 40G leftover
[06:38] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to say launch the installer from within ubuntu already? to install to another partition, in such case that there isnt a cdrom?
[06:38] <levander> xen isn't a "Windows virtual machine", it's partitions your hardware into virtual machines, so you can run multiple operating systems (of whatever flavor you like) on your hardware - e.g., you could run two Linux instances.
[06:39] <Aresilek> hi
[06:39] <Aresilek> what's the command to start vnc?
[06:39] <Frogzoo> ajax4: afaik, xen won't run a windows vm
[06:39] <billyd> I gots to go.  Nite  - thanks for the info
[06:39] <brylie> how do I install the Java GCJ [non proprietery version?]  to work in the mozilla browser?
[06:39] <DShepherd> Aresilek, vncviewer?
[06:39] <ShadowRelic> hello, ive been trying to get a driver for my tablet pc pen (i dont think it exists) but i ran into a source that was talking about using windows drivers in a wrapper for linux, does anyone have any info on this?
[06:39] <dnl> (is there a way to automatically redetect other operating systems and add them to menu.lst in a way that won't be overwritten?
[06:40] <levander> dnl: look at the comments in grub.conf, i believe grub-update regenerates grub.conf based on those comments
[06:40] <Aresilek> thanks DShepherd
[06:40] <DShepherd> Aresilek, ok
[06:40] <bullgard4> What is meant with 'tty11' in my /dev/tty11?
[06:40] <MTecknology> how can I run a purge from command line? I tried apt-cache remove --purge vmware-player but got an error
[06:40] <tovella> Kai-laptop: do you want ubuntu installed on different partitions on the same machine that does not have a CD drive?
[06:40] <ajax4> levander: Yeah, when I said they were "windows" virtual machines that was a typo. I have used several different oses under vmware, including windows.
[06:40] <n2diy> dnl: check out the man page for grub, something like grub reconfig, or something like that exsists.
[06:41] <levander> ShadowRelic: maybe they're talking about ndiswrapper??  i know people use that for wireless card drivers
[06:41] <DShepherd> MTecknology, apt-get remove --purge i think
[06:41] <Kai-laptop>  tovella yes
[06:41] <fog_proxy> When ubuntu bootup, which user is used to execute /etc/rc.local? root?
[06:41] <dnl> n2diy/levander: I have run the grub-update script, and it overwrites the custom Windows entry.
[06:41] <tovella> Kai-laptop: why?
[06:41] <Kai-laptop> exactly. this install bearly works. i need to install again, but on a diff partition, and i dont have a cdrom. i took this drive from another laptop and just popped it in
[06:41] <ShadowRelic> levander: could be, would that work for any driver?
[06:41] <kkathman> is there a way to program the mouse wheel to move from one desktop to the next without being on the actual desktop widget?
[06:42] <levander> dnl: but, have you modified the comments in grub.conf also?  it's the comments that are used to regenerate grub.conf
[06:42] <levander> ShadowRelic: i don't know, that's a guess, it's worth looking into
[06:42] <n2diy> dnl: I guess you'll have to manually edit grub.config then, never done that. Can you see the Winders partition?
[06:42] <Kai-laptop> tovella, a lot of stuff is broken. nothing will even compile.
[06:42] <tovella> Kai-laptop: do you have a flash-drive?
[06:43] <Kai-laptop> tovella, a 512 mb one yea... ?
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> but. the laptop cant usb boot
[06:44] <brylie> is there a sun java browser plugin that is Canonical supported?
[06:44] <dnl> n2diy: Yes, I can add the partition to menu.lst just fine.. it's just the issue of getting Ubuntu's scripts to recognize it.  (I'm quite familiar with Grub.. just not Ubuntu's scripts)
[06:44] <tovella> Kai-laptop: will your pc boot from a usb-flash or usb-zip?
[06:44] <NortonX> where do video driver files go to?
[06:44] <NortonX> what directory?
[06:44] <ShadowRelic> what is a good/free application to image my computer with?
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> tovella, not the one i need to reinstall on
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> a desktop here might
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> but probably not helpful
[06:44] <ajax4> ShadowRelic: Just make a disc image of one of your hard drive partitions?
[06:44] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I removed my .dmrc, .Xauthority, .ICEauthority directories so I can't chmod these directories
[06:44] <wall0159> hey all. Now that iTunes is selling DRM-free songs, I'm interested in shopping there. Is there a way to access the store from Linux?
[06:44] <ShadowRelic> ajax4, what program do you use?
[06:44] <tovella> Kai-laptop: the only way i'm familiar with would involve using another machine with ltsp installed.
[06:44] <n2diy> dnl: ok, then you know more than I do. So I don't know what to tell you now?
[06:45] <ajax4> wall0159: You can using iTunes under WINE, but there is no version for Linux that I'm aware of.
[06:45] <newb_prob> I have a QuickCam Orbit MP webcam. I have installed  linux-uvc. /dev/video0 still does not exist (thesefore  xawtv/camE/qcam/camaroma do not work, as expected). How do I  begin troubleshooting this mess
[06:45] <ajax4> ShadowRelic: You can do it from the command line using the "dd" command.
[06:45] <Kai-laptop> tovella, link to howto?/explanation? im unframiliar with ltsp / the method your talking about
[06:47] <wall0159> ajax4: ok thanks.. I was curious if the store interface had been reverse-engineered.. ;-)
[06:47] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I installed vmware-player and I'm going to attempt to remive --purge it
[06:47] <tovella> Kai-laptop: you have another networked machine?
[06:47] <ShadowRelic> ajax4, im backing up windows xp
[06:47] <Kai-laptop> tovella, yea.
[06:47] <flake> wall0159 - be careful with those drm-free songs, if you let a buddy borrow it and it ends up on some server, they can trace it back to you as they put your info in the file, not sure if they put the cc# in too
[06:47] <levander> dnl: I know that there are comments in some configuration file that update-grub reads and generates the new configuration on, i'm looking on my system though and can not find it
[06:47] <ajax4> wall0159: No, but I'm sure someone's working on it somewhere :)   I prefer just buying CDs and ripping them. No DRM that way.
[06:47] <mngrif> does anyone know if the Nvidia 8600M GT supports direct rendering?
[06:47] <Kai-laptop> tried netboot PXE server last night but it failed. thinking about trying again from another system
[06:47] <wall0159> flake: ;-) year I've heard that..
[06:47] <dnl> levander: You mean /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:47] <v3n0m`> flake: since there's no DRM, is this information not strippable?
[06:47] <flake> don't see why there isn't something out there already to do that, but i read you can hex-edit spaces into it
[06:47] <portaGeek> can someone help me out with a little Lamp + MediaWiki issue.
[06:47] <v3n0m`> RGR
[06:47] <wall0159> ajax4: uh huh :-) I wouldn't be too surprised either...
[06:48] <brylie> !java
[06:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:48] <tovella> Kai-laptop: a net-install diskette (like what debian has) would be ideal, but since i don't know of one for ubuntu, let me find a link for an net-boot, using an ltsp server.
[06:48] <n2diy> re-align: is it a comm port connection between the camera and computer?
[06:48] <levander> dnl: read skelter's comment at the bottom of this post: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=96509133&m=368004297731&r=368004297731#368004297731
[06:48] <re-align> n2diy, probably
[06:48] <thinkabout> How can I play rmvb files?? I tried to play a file with gxine and appears a error saying smething about a library called drvc.so.
[06:49] <wall0159> well, thanks gentlefolk, I'd better get back to work :-)
[06:49] <Kai-laptop> tovella, great, thanks. i know this can boot PXE but no idea what ltsp even is... and it has no floppy. the only 2 things it can boot right now are hd and pxe
[06:49] <re-align> It's an old RCA CDS1005. I'd use the USB cable, but the one USB port I have on the laptop is DOA. :/
[06:49] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I removed it w/ a purge, searched the whole HD for occurances of vmware, dleted them, and did an apt-get autoremove  -- should I be ready to try to install again?
[06:49] <n2diy> re-align: probably? That doesn't fly! :) USB or DB9 connector?
[06:49] <re-align> DB9
[06:49] <johnficca> Hi I'm using the new gnome main menu and then i click on more applications nothing happens and also the control center is missing on the right, any way to fix??
[06:49] <mistone> how do I make ubuntu resume its sleep by pressing any key on the keyboard?
[06:50] <mistone> it works in my vista install
[06:50] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, comm port. Do you have minicom installed?
[06:50] <johnficca> when*
[06:50] <portaGeek> NM, FIgured it out :)
[06:50] <beardbar> how do i restart xwindows after making xorg.conf changes
[06:50] <bastid_raZor> Vista heh
[06:50] <re-align> Let me check
[06:50] <re-align> If it's not installed by default then no
[06:50] <bastid_raZor> beardbar: you could ctrl alt backspace
[06:50] <levander> beardbar: /etc/init.d/x11-xcommon restart
[06:50] <re-align> I'll go get it if it's not there
[06:51] <beardbar> levander: thanks!
[06:51] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - I'm planning to replace an aging disk and at the same time migrate from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Feisty. I'd be grateful if someone could sanity check my plan at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24669/
[06:51] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, open a terminal, and type minicom, what happens?
[06:51] <dnl> levander: Ok, thanks for that link.  I think the problem is that I was inserting the Windows section in the debian kernel section of the file, which caused it to be erased.  (I need to put it outside the domain of the "automagic kernels list")
[06:51] <levander> dnl: yeah, i see what you're saying, sounds right...
[06:52] <dnl> levander: (I was editing it too quickly and didn't bother to read the comments... I see now that it says "put static boot stanzas before and/or after the automagic kernel list"
[06:52] <tovella> Kai-laptop: the article i found & have used before is for multiple versions of linux, but you can limit it to just one if you like... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[06:52] <re-align> Not installed, installing now.
[06:52] <gravemind> v3n0m`: ...why did you remove that stuff? Anyway, how's it going?
[06:52] <levander> dnl: note that the first poster's name in that thread is "levander" - i don't think anyone reads the comments when they edit that file
[06:52] <newb_prob> how do I fix this error form xawtv? : X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[06:52] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, use my nick in your replies, or I might miss them, ok.
[06:53] <re-align> n2diy, keep forgetting
[06:53] <re-align> n2diy, it's installed now
[06:53] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop.
[06:54] <n2diy> re-align: roger that. :) Do you know what speed and protocol your camera's comm port are set too?
[06:54] <puff> Hm, I'm trying to get write support for an external NTFS hard drive. Supposedly I should be able to use ntfs-config, but the external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config (though it does show up in /media/LACIE).
[06:54] <re-align> n2diy, no clue.
[06:54] <johnficca> it is very unusable right now
[06:54] <tovella> Kai-laptop: here's a more recent example http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[06:54] <n2diy> re-align: :/ And let me guess, you don't have the manual?
[06:55] <re-align> I have the disk for Windows...let's see if it contains anything useful...
[06:55] <puff> Argh/
[06:55] <puff> Argh.
[06:55] <Kai-laptop> tovella, thanks. trying
[06:55] <re-align> n2diy, see above ^^
[06:55] <NortonX> whats the command to tell if your vga card has opengl support?
[06:55] <puff> Something weird is going on, I get "bad disk" when I try to burn a dVD.
[06:57] <tovella> Kai-laptop: oh, yeah...you don't need a complete ltsp server.  tftp will work just fine.
[06:57] <mistone> holy shit I just printed something over my network instally out the box,  I couldn't do that in vista. you guys kick ass
[06:57] <n2diy> re-align: See above for what, all I see is you are looking at the Winders disk?
[06:57] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop. I might have just installed kubuntu-desktop when it started (but I'm still primarily using GNOME)
[06:57] <__mikem> !ohmy | mistone
[06:57] <ubotu> mistone: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:57] <re-align> n2diy, That was it, realized too late that I forgot to include your nick. :)
[06:57] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[06:57] <sybermile> i have a question
[06:57] <Nutubuntu> kitsuneofdoom - enigma is a browser?
[06:57] <MTecknology> !enigma
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enigma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <n2diy> sybermile: half the people here have problems, that is why we are here!
[06:58] <MTecknology> !info enigma
[06:58] <ubotu> enigma: A game where you control a marble with the mouse. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.00-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 926 kB, installed size 2428 kB
[06:58] <kitsuneofdoom> Nutubuntu: it's a game. It just happens to crash as well
[06:58] <puff> Something odd is going on with my dvd burner, no matter what disk I put in, it tells me it's a bad disk.
[06:58] <sybermile> when ever i have beryl running on my laptop and i close the lid to make it sleep when i open the lid to wake it up it is frozen
[06:58] <MTecknology> sybermile: me too :)
[06:58] <MTecknology> I've just never used sleep of hibernate :P
[06:58] <Nutubuntu> kitsuneofdoom - I see ... sorry; misunderstood.
[06:58] <re-align> n2diy, amazingly enough (sarcasm) there doesn't appear to be anything useful here...
[06:59] <sybermile> my lappy is a dell e1405
[06:59] <levander> puff: you've looked at the discs, and they are clean?  could try a dvd cleaner (not a disc cleaner) - a dvd cleaner is a disc you put in your drive to clean it
[06:59] <n2diy> re-align: ok, what about the camera's menu's, do they offer any clues?
[06:59] <re-align> n2diy, ROFL, menus?
[06:59] <fog_proxy> Can I add a command with parameter in /etc/rc.local, so that it can execute at the boot time? ( I mean does the rc.local support parameter command line? )
[06:59] <ajax4> puff: could also be the cables, could also be a failing burner. I've had a few go bad on me.
[07:00] <n2diy> re-align: yes :/
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, it's an old RCA CDS1005
[07:00] <puff> levander: The disks are brand new, so yeah.  I could see a dvd cleaner helping.  I haven't really used my CD/DVD reader/writer hardly at all, but the laptop is 1.5 years old.
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, No menus per se
[07:00] <puff> ajax4: No cables, it's a laptop burner.
[07:00] <LokiListens> okay, i tried gparted with the livecd, and it still gives me the error that the windows partition cannot be resized.  ideas?
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, I can change the EV and resolution (somehow...)
[07:00] <puff> This is frustrating... my hard drive is full and I can't get ntfs write or CD burning to work.
[07:01] <nuked_omen> puff: install ntfs-3g
[07:01] <nuked_omen> and ntfs-config
[07:01] <n2diy> re-align: ok, without the baud rate, and protocol, I.E 8e1, we don't have much of a chance talking to it with minicom, maybe google can tell you that?
[07:01] <ajax4> !ntfs-3g
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:02] <puff> nuked_omen: I did.  the external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config.
[07:02] <re-align> n2diy, looking now
[07:02] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:02] <ajax4> nuked_omen: Is NTFS reliable under Linux?
[07:02] <nuked_omen> puff: does it get mounted though?
[07:02] <bullgard4> What is meant with 'tty11' in my /dev/tty11?
[07:02] <crimsun> ajax4: via ntfs-3g, yes.
[07:02] <puff> nuked_omen: The ntfs?  For read, yes.
[07:02] <LokiListens> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an xp machine, the ntfs partitions don't help me
[07:02] <crimsun> ajax4: at least IME.  YMMV.
[07:03] <re-align> n2diy, my bet is that since it is supposed to primarily use USB that the rate is rather high
[07:03] <nuked_omen> puff: install ntfs-config.. it'll let you control how the ntfs partition is mounted
[07:03] <sybermile> ntfs-g3 has never worked for me on vista
[07:03] <ajax4> crimsun: Well, last I heard NTFS support was spotty under Linux, but I have never heard of ntfs-3g before.
[07:03] <puff> nuked_omen: I did. The external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config.
[07:03] <re-align> n2diy, unfortunately, RCA doesn't seem to support it anymore...:(
[07:03] <puff> nuked_omen: Though it shows up in /media/LACIE.
[07:03] <n2diy> re-align: You told me it was a DB9 connector, that is serial port!
[07:04] <re-align> n2diy, it came with 2 cables. 1 for USB and 1 for serial.
[07:04] <puff> Does a shortage of hard drive space (e.g. only 185MB) interfere with DVD burning?
[07:04] <nuked_omen> puff: wierd.. unmount it and remount it with the ntfs-3g driver
[07:04] <re-align> n2diy, I can;t use the USB as my laptop's USB port is DOA.
[07:04] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, which cable are you using?
[07:06] <re-align> n2diy, the DB9
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: Yes, it could depending on what modes  you are burning in.
[07:06] <puff> ajax4: How would I check that?
[07:06] <NortonX> how can I tell if my graphics card supports opengl?
[07:06] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I was told to by other helpers (I assumed these directories would be regenerated with the correct permissions automatically)
[07:06] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, check your bios settings, and make sure your serial ports are enabled.
[07:06] <v3n0m`> gravemind: It is not going well, I'm forced to use windows
[07:06] <NortonX> theres got to be a command of some sort
[07:06] <re-align> n2diy, already done, it's set to use com1
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: Well, if you are burning "on the fly" it may not affect your burning, but if it needs to create a disk image first and then burn that image, you will need lots of free space.
[07:06] <nuked_omen> puff: i'm guessing you just don't mount the ntfs partition with write support but you have the drivers to do that
[07:06] <LokiListens> okay, i tried gparted with the livecd, and it still gives me the error that the windows partition cannot be resized.  ideas?
[07:06] <puff> nuked_omen: How do I remount it with the ntfs-3g driver?  That is, am I supposed to see it in ntfs-config then, or do I need to edit /etc/mtab?
[07:06] <nuked_omen> LokiListens: gparted and qtparted never worked for me.. i just use fdisk
[07:06] <robert98374> Hello everyone!
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: If you are burning a disc image that is already created, drive space probably would not be an issue.
[07:06] <dorobu> Might someone be able to assist me with getting my screen resolution over 1024x768?
[07:06] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, and this is laptop right? With NO external mouse?
[07:06] <LokiListens> i'm getting the error with the alt-install cd too
[07:06] <puff> ajax4: Ah, probably not already created.  Okay, so generally it needs enough space on the drive to cache an image of the disk to be created?
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: it's better to put it in /etc/mtab
[07:07] <re-align> n2diy, correct
[07:07] <kkathman> so I guess one cannot control the desktop rotation with the mouse wheel ??
[07:07] <puff> nuked_omen: Hokay.
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: i thought you should put it in /etc/fstab
[07:07] <robert98374> I am having some issues with conky, i am trying to get a calender to show up but its not working, samething with an rss feed
[07:07] <manual_overide> w00t just got my resolution working!
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: but i'm not that geeky to know
[07:07] <re-align> n2diy, the machine is an old Dell Latitude CPx
[07:07] <NortonX> is there a command to check if my sis card supports opengl?
[07:07] <puff> nuked_omen: Yeah, sorry, mtab is generated automagically IRRC.
[07:08] <ajax4> puff: Mostly yes, unless you use "on the fly" burning.
[07:08] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, so now we have to go fishing. Roger on the old Dell. Run minicom in a terminal, and set it up to talk to comm one at 4800 baud, with 8e1 and let me know what happens?
[07:09] <NortonX> is there a command to check if my sis card supports opengl?
[07:09] <manual_overide> NortonX: do you have X running?
[07:09] <NortonX> yes
[07:09] <spik1> wow
[07:09] <manual_overide> you could try to run glxgears from a terminal
[07:09] <spik1> XD
[07:09] <robert98374> anyone here comfortable with conky?
[07:09] <gravemind> v3n0m`: backup your data (if you have any) and reinstall ubuntu if you can't find a better solution.
[07:10] <spik1> hello
[07:10] <LokiListens> well, i've been though absolute hell, a lot of tutorials, and no one can seem to tell me why i'm getting this error.  i guess i'll stick with xp for now  :(
[07:10] <robert98374> spik1 hello
[07:10] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:10] <nuked_omen> puff: also, make sure you turn off windows by shutting it down.. if you don't follow the right procedure for shutting down windows, it'll be hard to mount the ntfs partition on linux
[07:10] <gravemind> LokiListens: what was your problem again?
[07:10] <NortonX> manual_overide, that works smoothly for like 5 seconds then runs kinda choppy after that... any idea as to why?
[07:10] <LokiListens> cannot resize windows partition with gparted or alt-install cd
[07:10] <gravemind> LokiListens: right, can't be resized
[07:10] <manual_overide> NortonX: nope.  does the same for me on my radeon mobility
[07:11] <ajax4> LokiListens: How much empty space is on the partition?
[07:11] <manual_overide> the fps it prints to the terminal are all about the same though
[07:11] <gravemind> LokiListens: If I were you, i'd try to verify that it is not corrupted or anything. Have you already tried that?
[07:11] <LokiListens> ajaz4 50g
[07:11] <manual_overide> NortonX: I assume the fact that it runs means your card supports opengl
[07:12] <LokiListens> gravemind yeah, it's in perfect working order
[07:12] <manual_overide> I could be wrong though
[07:12] <NortonX> ok
[07:12] <ajax4> LokiListens: How big is the partition?
[07:12] <gravemind> LokiListens: is it ntfs?
[07:12] <LokiListens> ajax4 windows partition 150g
[07:13] <LokiListens> gravemind yes ntfs
[07:13] <ajax4> Anyone know how to get rid of the messages of people joining and leaving? I'm using xchat.
[07:13] <n2diy> re-align: n2diy decides to load minicom, since he doesn't have it on Dapper!
[07:13] <gravemind> LokiListens: and you've done an fsck on it?
[07:13] <ajax4> gravemind: Does gparted even resize ntfs partitions?
[07:13] <LokiListens> gravemind fsck?  that's the first i've heard mentioned of that
[07:13] <cables> ajax4: it does
[07:13] <re-align> n2diy, using Feisty on the laptop. XP here on the desktop.
[07:14] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:14] <biglinux> blz..
[07:14] <ajax4> cables: Apparently support for NTFS has improved greatly since I last looked into it :)
[07:14] <novato_br> haven't utorrent version for linux?
[07:14] <biglinux> :P
[07:14] <gravemind> ajax4, yes it does. LokiListens: fsck checks your filesystem for errors, even if it seems to work
[07:14] <k1gwb> I know this is probably supposed to be easy, but how do I add 2 commands to be started when my computer boots, regardless of whether anyone is logged in or not?
[07:14] <biglinux> (Y)
[07:15] <gravemind> LokiListens: I'm not exactly sure how to use it though
[07:15] <abhi> UBUNTU ROCKS!!! :)
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: no, but you can run it in Wino.
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: sorry, Wine
[07:15] <gravemind> !fsck
[07:15] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:15] <LokiListens> gravemind, is it on the livecd?
[07:15] <ajax4> abhi: I know :)
[07:15] <nuked_omen> abhi: right on!
[07:15] <gravemind> LokiListens: it should be. It's pretty important
[07:15] <novato_br> i won't wine
[07:15] <puff> ajax4: Btw, here's the error from the cd burning:  genisoimage: Directories too deep for 'medsage/branches/medsage1/docs/sitemockup/assets/Fireworks/CVS' (7) max is 6. :-( write failed: Input/output error
[07:15] <puff> ajax4: In gnomebaker.
[07:15] <LokiListens> gravemind, ajax4, thanks, i may be back
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: Wine is software that lets you run Windows programs in Linux
[07:16] <michael_> has anyone gotten the mic working on the HP Pavillion DV6000/DV9000
[07:16] <puff> ajax4:  I'd missed that option to get more rror details.
[07:16] <michael_> ! mic
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <gravemind> LokiListens: alright - look into fsck if possible
[07:16] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I
[07:16] <ajax4> novato_br: Have you tried Azureus?
[07:16] <novato_br> ok
[07:16] <LokiListens> gravemind, going to try it now
[07:16] <novato_br> no, ajax4
[07:16] <novato_br> i want utorrent because it's nice software
[07:16] <cables> novato_br: install Wine through Add/Remove, then try uTorrent. Azureus on Ubuntu tends to have issues.
[07:16] <v3n0m`> gravemind: am aware of that option, but I've a feeling it's a very simple problem, given what I've heard from others..
[07:17] <novato_br> thx
[07:17] <nuked_omen> azureus rokcs
[07:17] <ajax4> novato_br: Azureus is better IMHO.
[07:17] <nuked_omen> rocks*
[07:17] <puff> Hm, is this channel being logged?
[07:17] <novato_br> but i cant run with WINE in here
[07:17] <cables> ajax4: it's slower, and crashes all the time
[07:17] <gravemind> v3n0m`: have you tried just recreating those folders and files (and just leaving them empty?)
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: what do you mean? You can certainly run Wine.
[07:17] <nuked_omen> i don't have issues with azureus.. you probably have issues with java
[07:17] <novato_br> i can't run it
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: would you prefer a portuguese channel?
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: it works fine for me.
[07:17] <novato_br> nobody is overthere
[07:18] <ajax4> cables: Works fine for me. What do you prefer?
[07:18] <novato_br> everyone sleeps know
[07:18] <cables> puff: by me and a million others, as well as by bots, where it gets posted to a site.
[07:18] <immibis> dns does not work properly for me, i have ubuntu 5 breezy
[07:18] <novato_br> i'll try again, cables
[07:18] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - was it you wanting to know how to hide the join/part messages in xchat?
[07:18] <ajax4> puff: The error message suggests that the problem is not with your burner.
[07:18] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: Yes
[07:18] <gravemind> novato_br: everyone has their favorite bt client, but sadly utorrent doesn't work natively on linux, why not use an alternative, you may grow to like it or at least tolerate it
[07:19] <n2diy> re-align: DLed minicom, but now I have a problem, it won't run, I don't have permission to run tty8! That blows.
[07:19] <puff> cables: Drat, I'd rather that error message not get logged to a site.
[07:19] <re-align> n2diy, run as sudo
[07:19] <novato_br> ok, gravemind
[07:19] <re-align> n2diy, I had that problem as well.
[07:19] <puff> Ah well.
[07:19] <cables> novato_br: not everything works with Wine, but uTorrent works surprisingly well. To make it work, right click the EXE, click Open With, choose Custom Command, and type "wine" in the Custom Command box.
[07:19] <novato_br> i'll trie the Deluge
[07:19] <n2diy> re-align: ah, let try that.
[07:19] <Azu1> just use azureus, then you won't have trouble switching OS's because it runs on everything, even mac
[07:19] <puff> Okay, so I'm looking at editing /etc/fstab to have it mount the LACIE drive with whatever options.  Next question is, what options?
[07:20] <novato_br> but i don't download very fast
[07:20] <Azu1> i just don't like emulators and compatibility layer
[07:20] <Azu1> s
[07:20] <re-align> n2diy, I've no clue how to configure it, the manual confuses me...:/
[07:20] <n2diy> re-align: Yep, that was it.
[07:20] <cables> novato_br: Deluge doesn't have the features of uTorrent, but it's still very nice.
[07:20] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: How do you hide the join/part messages in xchat?
[07:20] <immibis> dns does not work properly for me. i have breezy badger on an old laptop which is connected to the internet via another computer.
[07:20] <novato_br> but cable, i don't understand very well the wine, yet
[07:20] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - it is a SET command. I think it's "set irc_conf_mode on"
[07:20] <cables> Azu1: Azureus doesn't work for me. It crashes after about 20 minutes, then won't work again until I delete ~/.azureus
[07:20] <novato_br> ok
[07:20] <cables> novato_br: just follow what I told you and it should work
[07:21] <cables> ajax4: right click on the tab, uncheck Show Join/Part
[07:21] <immibis> does anyone know what might be wrong?
[07:21] <cables> /ctcp ajax4 version
[07:21] <cables> damn
[07:21] <michael_> how do i find the alsa version?
[07:21] <gravemind> novato_br: bittornado is an excellent light weight client, if that's what you're looking for. supports prioritization and other things too
[07:21] <Azu1> puff: i'll post you the line that mounts my drive
[07:21] <cables> that doesn't work in Pidgin?
[07:21] <ajax4> cables: Did it, thanks.
[07:21] <Azu1> /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:21] <crimsun> michael_: cat /proc/asound/version
[07:21] <novato_br> ok, cables
[07:21] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: I put yours in also, though I don't know if it worked or not.
[07:21] <eric> how would i merge dirA with dirB? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[07:21] <novato_br> ok, gravemind
[07:22] <n2diy> re-align: ok, ctrl+a, then z for the command list.
[07:22] <novato_br> good choice
[07:22] <Azu1> puff: i forgot the UUID
[07:22] <Azu1> UUID=62383E7F383E5271 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:22] <novato_br> gravemind, bittornado have one GUI ?
[07:22] <zero> there is any php channel?
[07:23] <Azu1> puff: i think you can replace the UUID with /dev/hdxx
[07:23] <Azu1> zero: #php
[07:23] <cables> zero: ##php
[07:23] <immibis> 'host' *always* told me that the dns response was invalid
[07:23] <zero> im confuse with multidimensional array in php
[07:23] <zero> ok thx
[07:23] <Azu1> php is confusing
[07:23] <eric> lol
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - I'm wrong; that doesn't seem to do it ... sorry :(
[07:23] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: No problem, did you see the suggestion cable had for doing it?
[07:24] <re-align> n2diy, K, got the speed set to 4800, now what?
[07:24] <zero> damn overflow
[07:24] <gravemind> novato_br: it has a gui, yes.
[07:24] <dfgas> i have an ati radeon 7200, what do i need to do to get 3d on it?
[07:24] <puff> Azu1: thanks.
[07:24] <n2diy> re-align: ok, wait one.
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - I'm so dumb. No, I missed it, and yes, it seems to work
[07:24] <Azu1> puff: :)
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> t/y cable
[07:25] <zero> php channel it's full or somthing :S it says overflow when i try to get int
[07:25] <ajax4> zero: hehehe
[07:25] <zero> any of you could help me with php?
[07:25] <zero> ajax4: you should know php :P
[07:25] <aroo> ##php
[07:25] <ajax4> zero: I've dabbled in php, but I'm far from an expert.
[07:26] <zero> aroo: i tried that too
[07:26] <Azu1> yeah, the php channel is always packed.. i don't know how you can have a convo there
[07:26] <flowingfire> Hi!  I'm trying to follow a set of instructions for Ubuntu, but I'm not sure how to implement them in Kubuntu.  It says "Go to System->Preferences->Sessions and click the Startup Programs tab."  Then it instructs me to add a complex command line... How do I do this in Kubuntu?
[07:26] <aroo> #kubuntu
[07:26] <ajax4> zero: Have you tried the php documentation on their website?
[07:26] <flowingfire> aroo: nobody is there
[07:26] <zero> ajax4: confusing
[07:26] <puff> What's the /dev/hdxx line?  That is, how do I determine what xx needs to be?  dmesg?
[07:26] <aroo> Someone answered you.
[07:26] <flowingfire> oh wait n/m
[07:26] <flowingfire> thx
[07:26] <zero> ajax4: it's just a matter with arrays
[07:26] <n2diy> re-align: ctrl+a then o, then serial port setup.
[07:27] <ALL4N> puff: use the mount command to see which of the dev/hdxx is mounted where
[07:27] <puff> zero: Oka, ask again on #php and I'll try to figure it out.
[07:27] <Azu1> puff: i use "fdisk -l"  it lists the partitions and the /dev/whatever for them
[07:27] <v3n0m`> gravemind: will do =)
[07:27] <re-align> n2diy, Right
[07:27] <gravemind> v3n0m`: it might not work, but it's worth a try
[07:27] <zero> puff still overflow
[07:27] <NortonX> is there a command that shows my graphics card supports opengl
[07:27] <Azu1> zero: keep trying
[07:27] <NortonX> besides glxgears
[07:28] <LokiListens> i can't figure out fsck.  i'm just going to wait, pick up an external hard drive, copy everything i can to it, and then try again
[07:28] <gravemind> v3n0m`: it might also be easy just to make another user and delete the old broken one
[07:28] <ajax4> Azu1: You know of a good gui program for mounting new hard drives that adds them to fstab?
[07:28] <aroo> glxinfo | grep direct
[07:28] <amonbish> hello
[07:28] <zero> nevermind i'll just ask maybe some could help me
[07:28] <gravemind> LokiListens: I think it's just fsck /dev/windows partition
[07:28] <dekay> Is there a good perl script writing program for ubuntu?
[07:28] <puff> dekay: EmacS?
[07:28] <gravemind> LokiListens: for me it's fsck /dev/sda1
[07:28] <Azu1> ajax4: no, i always mount my drives from CLI.. i'm sure i came across one in the default repositories
[07:28] <PirateHead> Does anybody know whether Ubuntu is releasing an UMPC or something?
[07:28] <plugs> what is an "SM bus?"
[07:28] <LokiListens> gravemind, i know almost nothing of linux.  let me try those.
[07:29] <gravemind> LokiListens: not yet!
[07:29] <keev> hey whats that one program called that installs vid drivers? i think Envy?
[07:29] <amonbish> I'll think about it
[07:29] <zero> gal[$i] [$j]  = $row['path_name']     does not works, it does with c++.....
[07:29] <zero> it says syntax error
[07:29] <puff> Azu1: It's unmouned at the moment; it automounted fine, but then it didn't show up when I tried ot use ntfs-config to mount it for writing, so I umounted it.
[07:29] <aroo> zero, this is not a programming supoprt channel
[07:29] <PirateHead> dekay: emacs and vi are both good choices. Also give a look at xemacs.
[07:29] <gravemind> LokiListens: open up gparted and find out the name of your windows partition
[07:29] <ajax4> Azu1: So do I but I know a newbie that wanted to do it so I wanted to find something easier for them.
[07:29] <aroo> support*
[07:29] <re-align> n2diy, Next?
[07:29] <v3n0m`> gravemind: rgr
[07:30] <puff> /dev/sdb1   *           1       30401   244196001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:30] <gravemind> v3n0m`: ?
[07:30] <zero> aroo: i know and i am sorry....
[07:30] <ajax4> zero: Arrays are different in php. I think you have to use array( x, y, z )...use that syntax.
[07:30] <puff> That look right?
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - I'm planning to replace an aging disk and at the same time migrate from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Feisty. I'd be grateful if someone could sanity check my plan at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24669/
[07:30] <ajax4> zero: Yeah, its really off-topic for this channel.
[07:30] <PirateHead> zero: try joining ##php ?
[07:30] <LokiListens> gravemind, okay.  i've got to wait for the live disk to boot.  i'm on a secondary comp right now that runs ubuntu beautifully
[07:30] <zero> PirateHead: im really trying
[07:31] <Azu1> puff: why don't you just modify /etc/fstab with the options i gave you and then restart and see how things go?
[07:31] <zero> ajax4: i know, well i wont bother you any more, thank you ajax4
[07:31] <n2diy> re-align: Well, now where we really need to know what parameters your camera talks with, otherwise we are fishing.
[07:31] <gravemind> LokiListens: alright. It's really strange that gparted isn't able to shrink your ntfs partition, as that is one of its features. To me that means that there is something probably wrong with it
[07:31] <ajax4> zero: Use that syntax I gave you....good luck :)
[07:31] <Azu1> puff: i think it should mount with write enabled
[07:31] <Azu1> no need for ntfs-config
[07:31] <zero> ajax4: i will, thanx
[07:32] <gravemind> LokiListens: wait, that's not one of its features
[07:32] <plugs> what's an SM bus?
[07:32] <LokiListens> gravemind ?
[07:32] <NortonX> is there a command that shows my graphics card supports opengl
[07:32] <NortonX> or what command is used to check your  video card version and driver version?
[07:32] <n2diy> re-align: Well, now is where we really need to know what parameters your camera talks with, otherwise we are fishing.
[07:32] <puff> Azu1: Well, I'm trying to figure out what the /dev/hdxx should be.  Does /dev/sdb1 look right?
[07:32] <horchata> so, my co-worker bought this printer I want to use with feisty, an epson offirio lp-1400
[07:32] <gravemind> LokiListens: I don't know, I just checked the 'features' section of gparted, and it says it can't do anything to ntfs, but I've DONE resizes myself
[07:33] <PirateHead> Nutubuntu: just make sure that step number 8 includes rum.
[07:33] <horchata> there is no driver for it right now, so how should i proceed?
[07:33] <re-align> n2diy, I believe you just said that...
[07:33] <gravemind> hey everyone, gparted can resize ntfs partitions, right?
[07:33] <re-align> n2diy, I'm searching the net, but not finidng anything useful...
[07:33] <Nutubuntu> PirateHead - Arrh, aye-aye.
[07:33] <n2diy> re-align: no, I omitted the"is", but you read over it, cool.
[07:33] <Azu1> ajax4: i just remembered, right-click on the top bar > add panel > disk mounter
[07:33] <CokeMan> does anyone know why how i can get multiple sessions of gnome open, one for my desktop normal user log in and one for a vncserver session?
[07:34] <Azu1> ajax4: i tried that one but dumped it later, probably didn't work ok for me
[07:34] <Azu1> but that's somethign
[07:34] <re-align> n2diy, I tend to ignore small mistakes like that when talking to ppl on the net
[07:34] <Azu1> puff: what is the drive you're trying to mount?
[07:34] <Azu1> sdb is for external drivers
[07:34] <Azu1> drives*
[07:34] <re-align> n2diy, as long as I can understand hat it is they're trying to say anyway...
[07:34] <puff> Azu1: an external LACIE drive.
[07:35] <Azu1> puff: is it the only external drive that you have connected?
[07:35] <reserved> some one woman that use Kubuntu?
[07:35] <KI4IKL> what is the name of the package for the c compiler?
[07:35] <puff> Azu1: Yeah.
[07:35] <Azu1> puff: /dev/sdb1 should be ok then
[07:35] <dekay> Hi can someone help me with the command line to install vi ?
[07:35] <re-align> KI4IKL, I think it's g++
[07:35] <Azu1> KI4IKL: gcc
[07:35] <ajax4> dekay: It should be installed by default
[07:35] <puff> Okay then... what do I need to restart?
[07:36] <tritium> dekay: it's installed by default
[07:36] <dekay> ajax4, where would it be?
[07:36] <re-align> KI4IKL, err gcc
[07:36] <Mobster> guys this is going to sound noob and dumb nut i only know of linux IRC channels can anybody tell me where a channel/ server for windows xp/office would be?
[07:36] <PirateHead> dekay: vi ought to be intalled already! Just run the command "vi" at the terminal.
[07:36] <tritium> KI4IKL: you want build-essential, really
[07:36] <KI4IKL> ahh
[07:36] <n2diy> re-align: Well, if you can't find the parameters, you'll have to fish.  Get a notebook, and start changing parameters, and note what doesn,t work, until you find what does. Use the intialize modem command to if it worked or not. Roger on the late night typos.
[07:36] <tritium> !b-e | KI4IKL
[07:36] <dekay> thanks
[07:36] <ubotu> KI4IKL: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:36] <KI4IKL> thats what I was getting.
[07:36] <ajax4> dekay: Its a command line program, so you just type vi from the command line
[07:36] <KI4IKL> Thanks :)
[07:36] <NortonX> or what command is used to check your  video card version and driver version?
[07:36] <LokiListens> gravemind, my windows partition is ntfs and at dev/sda1
[07:36] <Azu1> KI4IKL: install build-essential.. it contains gcc with other necessary packages
[07:36] <PirateHead> Mobster: try #windows
[07:36] <CokeMan> does anyone know why how i can get multiple sessions of gnome open, one for my desktop normal user log in and one for a vncserver session?
[07:36] <Mobster> kool thx
[07:36] <gravemind> LokiListens: Do a backup if possible, then fsck /dev/sda1
[07:37] <Azu1> it's ##windows
[07:37] <PirateHead> Ah. Makes sense.
[07:37] <Mobster>  #windows worked
[07:37] <PirateHead> It probably serves as a redirect.
[07:37] <Mobster> yeah
[07:37] <h4ck3r_> isso  canal portugus ??
[07:37] <tritium> !pt
[07:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:38] <chipbuddy> so i'm using gthumb to find duplicate pictures, but do i really have to do all these clicks to get rid of all the duplicates? is there a faster way to trash all these duplicates?
[07:38] <dekay> Okay, where can I install perl for ubuntu, or is there a direct command line I can use?
[07:38] <ajax4> CokeMan: You want to run the vnc session from the normal user login?
[07:38] <LokiListens> gravemind, when i do that all i get is fsck 1.40-WIP
[07:38] <PirateHead> dekay: perl also comes pre-installed with Ubuntu. You're so lucky!
[07:38] <Azu1> dekay: use synaptic
[07:38] <dekay> lol
[07:38] <re-align> n2diy, first things first, I suspect I have to tell it what my serial port is called. Currently it's set to use /dev/tty8 and I'm not sure that's the right one.
[07:38] <Azu1> lol
[07:38] <PirateHead> Or doesn't it?
[07:38] <gravemind> hmm, let me look up fsck's usage
[07:38] <PirateHead> I thought for sure it did.
[07:39] <dekay> thanks again
[07:39] <PirateHead> No problem.
[07:39] <LokiListens> thanks for all the help gravemind
[07:39] <gravemind> LokiListens: sure. are you leaving? cause I have to get some sleep too : )
[07:39] <source> umm, osrry for asking this
[07:40] <LokiListens> gravemind, i'm around, but if you need to go i'll be here tomorrow night
[07:40] <source> but does anyone know how make a MP3 song go on myspace?
[07:40] <PirateHead> chipbuddy: you could write a script that compares the checksums of images to find duplicates and deletes duplicates until only one copy remains.
[07:40] <NortonX> there a command o check my video driver version?
[07:40] <source> as an HTML code
[07:40] <PirateHead> chipbuddy: that takes a few keystrokes, but might end up saving you time in the long run.
[07:40] <gravemind> alright. I know someone here *must* know how to use fsck
[07:40] <gravemind> good night
[07:40] <Azu1> source: i think i came across a website that adds modules and codes to myspace
[07:40] <PirateHead> gravemind: man fsck?
[07:41] <dfgas> i have an ati radeon 7200, what do i need to do to get 3d on it?
[07:41] <gravemind> lol yeah
[07:41] <ajax4> !ati
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <source> yeah
[07:41] <LokiListens> PirateHead, he was helping me out.  I'm brand new to linux and the man fsck was just more confusing
[07:41] <source> by any chance do you remenber the name of it or what you seach under?
[07:41] <n2diy> re-align: yes, your right, serial port 1 is ttyS0, and port 2 is ttyS1, note the capital S, it matters.
[07:41] <Azu1> source: http://www.myflashfetish.com/myspace-mp3-players/
[07:42] <re-align> n2diy, yeah, unlike Windows, linux actualy is case sensitive...
[07:42] <CokeMan> ajax4, no, i have a box that i sometimes log into via keyboard and use it, but i want to set up a vncserver so that i can log into it and this desktop and so forth on vnc, and i wnat to do it from vncserver
[07:42] <n2diy> re-align: yepper
[07:42] <source> Thank Azul.
[07:42] <Azu1> source: anytime
[07:43] <source> Azul, thank you very much and see you around
[07:43] <re-align> n2diy, so...how do I try initing the thing now?
[07:44] <n2diy> re-align: Well, if you can't find the parameters, you'll have to fish.  Get a notebook, and start changing parameters, and note what doesn,t work, until you find what does. Use the intialize modem command see to if it worked or not. Roger on the late night typos.
[07:44] <re-align> n2diy, I believe you said that. Anyway, I found the command to init the modem.
[07:45] <puff> Azu1: Okay, so far, so good, but now it wants me to either boot into windows or use the force option:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24671/
[07:45] <ajax4> CokeMan: I have a similar setup. I run the vnc server on one of my boxes, then use vncviewer to open a window and control that box's desktop remotely.
[07:45] <n2diy> re-align: the up arrow key is a lot easier then re-typing! :)
[07:46] <MrGimly>  Falar: yeah
[07:46] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) yeah
[07:47] <rolnxyz_> how do i make a "ls" that outputs directories only? "ls -d" doesn't work; it outputs "."
[07:47] <puff> How dangerous is this to the lacie drive?
[07:47] <dekay> How can I uninstall beryl unsupported plugins, I accidentally installed old one and I no longer have the new ones.
[07:47] <George2> I need help fixing my /bin/sh: can't access tty job control turned off - error: I have 3 hds and 1 sony cd/dvd writer - p3 800 mhz 512 ram geforce fx 5200!
[07:48] <re-align> bah...:(
[07:48] <KI4IKL> Umm...I went to install something, ti said I have to have the xtest library to install it, what is the xtest library
[07:48] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: hi
[07:48] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: (MrGimly) hi
[07:49] <PirateHead> rolnxyz_: I'm not sure, but have you read the man page?
[07:49] <Ott1> Hello everybody can someone talk me how to run in ubuntu some win. aplication?
[07:49] <PirateHead> Ott1: some Windows applications can be run in compatability mode, using Wine.
[07:49] <Azu1> puff: you didn't shutdown windows properly did you?
[07:49] <Nutubuntu> !wine
[07:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:49] <n2diy> re-align: the up arrow key is a lot easier then re-typing! :)
[07:49] <George2> is it that hard to fix that noone knows how to fix it?
[07:49] <n2diy> whoops
[07:49] <Ott1> ok an where can I find this Wine?
[07:49] <rolnxyz_> PirateHead: Yes, i just found the answer somewhere else. ls -d */
[07:49] <PirateHead> Ott1: Not all applications are supported. Are you wondering about certain ones in particular?
[07:50] <re-align> n2diy, I don't suppose there's a way to use a PS2 or serial port as a USB...:/
[07:50] <PirateHead> rolnxyz_: Cool.
[07:50] <Coffeegrindah> can someone help me figure out whats going ion with my apache install, It's working but it's looking like my CSS isn't being interpreted correctly
[07:50] <George2> Ott1: apt-get install wine -- i guess.
[07:50] <Ott1> exactly in Pocket Tracert supported by Cisco Systems
[07:50] <r4ge> Hey guys, Fiesty Fawn is awsome :)
[07:50] <PirateHead> Ott1: You can download Wine directly from their debian repository. There are instructions on their website, winehq.com (.org? I forget)
[07:50] <re-align> n2diy, or mybe I could try connecting to it thourgh my windows box...
[07:50] <n2diy> re-align: Bah?  USB to serial port dongles are hit or miss, never played with any of them.
[07:51] <Flannel> !anyone | Coffeegrindah
[07:51] <ubotu> Coffeegrindah: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:51] <George2> !wine
[07:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:51] <Azu1> yo, if you wanna run something on wine.. try this website > http://frankscorner.org/
[07:51] <r4ge> I am about to try a USB -> serial adapter
[07:51] <n2diy> re-align: maybe, but where would you find help for that, if you did it?
[07:51] <immibis> it is it is winehq.org
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: www.CharacterPlanet.com once u get ur comp running
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: (MrGimly) www.CharacterPlanet.com once u get ur comp running
[07:51] <novato_br> i can solve my problem with microphone
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Falar: ok
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) ok
[07:51] <mEck0> Someone got sound via toslink/optical cable to work with Intel HDA sound card? I have tried it a couple of times but can't get sound :(
[07:52] <ajax4> Coffeegrindah: More than likely its the browser you are using and not the web server that is the problem.
[07:52] <mistone> whats a good upnp client for ubuntu?
[07:52] <dekay> My beryl tell me this, yet I do no have all the unsupported effects like snow; The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.
[07:52] <dekay> The script had an error or it did not produce any output. If there was an error, you should be able to see it in the error log.
[07:52] <dekay> woops
[07:52] <mistone> I want to stream music via upnp
[07:52] <Tehkain> Anyone know how to remove the NetworkManager Applet from the notification area?
[07:52] <dekay> beryl-plugins-unsupported is already the newest version.
[07:52] <dekay> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:52] <Coffeegrindah> ajax4, I'm not so sure, I'm running a pretty messed up setup here..
[07:52] <re-align> Hmm...wonder if I could get a CardBus card that gives me an extra USB port...
[07:53] <Coffeegrindah> ajax4, I'm running Lamp on a keychain.. I'm guessing permissions issues..
[07:53] <sudo> how can i defrag ubuntu?
[07:53] <Flannel> sudo: ext3 doesn't need defragging
[07:53] <immibis> linux doesn't need defragging
[07:53] <n2diy> sudo
[07:53] <ajax4> Coffeegrindah: What browser are you using?
[07:53] <Coffeegrindah> FF,
[07:54] <n2diy> sudo: you don't it does all by itself.
[07:54] <keev> humm... can before it said a file was fragmented
[07:54] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: What is happening?  Since, youhaven't given us any information other than it "doesnt work"
[07:54] <keev> and i had to format
[07:54] <Ott1> Thanks everybody
[07:54] <yetist> how to build deb package like gnome-panel and gnome-panel-data from gnome-panel sources?
[07:54] <immibis> sudo: what filesystem are you using?
[07:54] <PirateHead> immibis: wrong. ext3 *usually* doesn't need defragging. linux can still run on fat systems, which do need defragging.
[07:54] <keev> ext3
[07:54] <MrGimly>  Falar: b
[07:54] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) b
[07:54] <kkathman> what is the command for the configuration editor - it isnt in Applications - System Tools as the wiki suggests
[07:54] <novato_br> but what can I do works my microphone without I have all times type "sudo artsdsp -m skype " ?
[07:54] <Elvis> I can't get ipv6 working, have anybody here tried that?
[07:55] <xenex46256> does anyone know why conky will startup when i login but then disappear after a few seconds but it will still be running?
[07:55] <immibis> PirateHead: and linux usually runs on ext3
[07:55] <Frogzoo> PirateHead: as long as you leave 5% disk free, ext3 never needs defragging
[07:55] <ajax4> kkathman: gconf-editor
[07:55] <xenex46256> and now i opened beryl and now conky is staying ontop of windows
[07:55] <zeeeee> fsckin dell
[07:55] <Azu1> ext3 is smart.. doesn't divide your file into smaller parts like windows does.. so you don't need to join those parts together in one place on the hard drive every weekend
[07:55] <r4ge> whats the msn client of choice?
[07:55] <Azu1> na mean?
[07:55] <yetist> I use dh_make, but it only can build gnome-panel package, not gnome-panel-data package.
[07:55] <keev> Is there a way to change your Network name without formatting?
[07:55] <kkathman> thanks ajax4
[07:55] <zeeeee> dell, man...they don't even configure their ubuntu computers correctly!
[07:55] <ajax4> kkathman: np
[07:55] <immibis> r4ge: who are you asking?
[07:55] <r4ge> the channel.
[07:55] <Azu1> r4ge: i use gaim
[07:56] <Coffeegrindah> flannel, Fresh LAMP install Running a USB Thumbstick,  Running MediaWiki,  - Wiki Works fine, but I can't see the page formatting properly. Tables and colors are off..
[07:56] <ajax4> zeeeee: Well, at least they're offering it so it's a start :)
[07:56] <zeeeee> my dad just got a dell laptop from them and its wireless is not working
[07:56] <immibis> r4ge: i use windows live messenger in windows xp and gaim in linux
[07:56] <PirateHead> zeeeee: what problem are you having? I know they use a lot of partitions, but it doesn't really hurt.
[07:56] <Azu1> i don't like dell
[07:56] <zeeeee> neither was the x resolution - that took me a while to fix
[07:56] <zeeeee> i can't really figure out the wireless though
[07:56] <zeeeee> cat /proc/net/wireless lists eth1
[07:56] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: What happens when you browse to the CSS file?  do you get text? download prompt? what?  What's the mimetype being served?
[07:56] <zeeeee> but iwconfig eth1 says it has no wireless extensions
[07:56] <zeeeee> lsmod shows ipw
[07:57] <Flannel> !enter | zeeeee
[07:57] <ubotu> zeeeee: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:57] <zeeeee> :) sorry
[07:57] <Elvis> ipv6? is there anybody who got it working?
[07:57] <Nutubuntu> keev - it's going to depend on your fs but ext3 does not usually need to be defragged. It calculates disk space on the fly so that files can be written contiguously to the disk, and it'll pick up fragmented files and rewrite them contiguously if they do occur -- if I remember right
[07:57] <n2diy> re-align: I have to sign, it is 0155 hours here, good luck, and keep notes, so you don't repeat your experments. 73
[07:57] <Azu1> i still don't know what ipv6 is
[07:57] <ajax4> !ipv6
[07:57] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:57] <immibis> Axu1: the next version of ip
[07:57] <zeeeee> cat /proc/net/wireless lists eth1, and lsmod shows ipw, but iwconfig eth1 says no wireless extensions. any ideas?
[07:57] <r4ge> Internet Protocol Version 6. ;)
[07:58] <keev> thank you Nutubuntu!
[07:58] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel, It's permissions.. Unless you're currently or have run Off a thumbstick, I'm sure you haven't run into this..
[07:58] <keev> Is there a way to change your Network name without formatting?
[07:58] <Azu1> what's so special about it
[07:58] <Elvis> i'm not trying to disable, im trying to use it...
[07:58] <Azu1> ad what's gonna change?
[07:58] <Elvis> to contect to a relay and get it working
[07:58] <r4ge> zeeeee: what does dmesg tell you?
[07:58] <re-align> n2diy, later, thanks
[07:58] <Nutubuntu> Azu1 -  the big deal about IPv6 is a much larger address space
[07:58] <r4ge> error inserting firmware or something similar?
[07:58] <re-align> I think I'll just get a USB card for the cardbus slot
[07:58] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: Like I asked, what happens when you browse to the css file via browser?
[07:59] <n2diy> re-align: I hang out here, so give a shout later, 73.
[07:59] <zeeeee> r4ge, one moment, let me get to that computer again
[08:01] <Elvis> I've read some howtos, but I cant ping6 any address
[08:01] <scales11> hello all, i was wondering how i could make my system fonts, like the date, and windows, look better?
[08:01] <ajax4> scales11: System > Preferences > Font
[08:01] <zeeeee> ajax4, i'm not sure it's a good idea to give customers improperly set up systems. it's going to leave a bad first impression; those impressions last.
[08:01] <zeeeee> (for those who would be getting linux for the first time)
[08:01] <Elvis> ajax4: have you used ipv6?
[08:01] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: blank page, no download. no text.
[08:01] <ajax4> zeeeee: I agree...I was being facetious earlier. But it's Dell afterall so it's to be expected :)
[08:01] <ajax4> Elvis: Nah, I disable it.
[08:01] <Elvis> ok
[08:01] <ajax4> Elvis: Why do you need to use IPv6?
[08:01] <Elvis> I did this too...but now I'm needing to use it...
[08:01] <Azu1> what is the best cms is your opinion?
[08:01] <Elvis> A university project
[08:01] <mikedoty> Does anyone happen to know the default cache directory for Opera in ubuntu?
[08:01] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: error? What headers are you getting?  If it's a permission thing, you'd get an error document.
[08:01] <Coffeegrindah> I get nothing.. a blank window.
[08:02] <Elvis> actually, I just need to conect and prrof that I'm using ipv6 through a tunnel
[08:02] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  so you're trying to ping6 a remote host somewhere?
[08:02] <ajax4> Elvis: Ahhh....sorry, wish I could help.
[08:02] <Elvis> yes, exactly
[08:03] <Elvis> ajax4, no problem, thanks
[08:03] <sivaji> my system cant automatically detect floppy drive am i suppose to mount maually every time
[08:03] <Nutubuntu> I'm going on pretty hazy memory here ... but Elvis, have you verified that the remote host you're trying to ping6 has configured IPv6?
[08:03] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: Just because you don't see anything doesn't mean you aren't being sent anything.  Pastebin the output of 'wget css-url' please.
[08:03] <Elvis> yes, for sure...
[08:03] <iain_dal1on> How do I automatically load a kernel module at boot?
[08:04] <Elvis> I'm trying that websites that verify if you are connected using ipv4 or ipv6 and show your address
[08:04] <ajax4> iain_dal1on: put the name of the module in: /etc/modules
[08:04] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  and that you can ping the host at its IPv4 addy? IOW, you know for sure that you have a route to the host?
[08:04] <mikedoty> Do any of y'all use Opera?
[08:04] <iain_dal1on> ajax4: thx
[08:04] <Nutubuntu> OIC
[08:04] <mert> s.a
[08:04] <ajax4> iain_dal1on: np
[08:04] <Flannel> mikedoty: I imagine opera cache is in ~/.opera/ (some file in there)
[08:05] <mert> aranzda trk yoqmu a.q ?
[08:05] <sivaji> ajax4 how to enable automount for floppy drive
[08:05] <Azu1> i don't use opera, it looks ugly
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mikedoty> Oh, .opera, forgot that dot thing.  Thanks Flannel
[08:05] <Elvis> in teory....cause' i'm trying to connect throuth a relay
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <ajax4> sivaji: Don't know, never used floppies on my Ubuntu.
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <Flannel> !ops
[08:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:05] <mert> piler
[08:05] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: Cannot write to `main.css' (Permission denied).
[08:06] <Elvis> and because I'm trying to ping the website I followed the tutorial
[08:06] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: cd to your homedi, then do it again
[08:06] <Elvis> Nubuntu, did you tried ipv6?
[08:07] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  just for a course; never used IPv6 in a real-world application
[08:07] <Elvis> it looks simple, all the cmds worked, but i couldn't see it working
[08:07] <Elvis> Nubuntu, ok, but could you connect?
[08:08] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24672/
[08:08] <Nutubuntu> Elvis - yes, built a small IPv6 LAN and showed that it was working natively and in IP4 tunnel
[08:09] <Elvis> so, if you used the tunnel you could connect to internet, right?
[08:09] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: and you've verified that the file exists locally?  /var/www/wiki/skins/monobook/main.css?
[08:09] <Coffeegrindah> yup..
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> Elvis - It's been several years ... I *think* we did, not sure any more though
[08:09] <Elvis> ok
[08:10] <Elvis> I searched for information in foruns, but all I've found was how to disable it...rs
[08:10] <Elvis> lol
[08:10] <zeeeee> mikedoty, yes
[08:10] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: and what are the permissions on the local file?
[08:11] <scales11> i am trying ti fix the fonts in my terminal, the look bad and overlap.  i can edit them but they dont seem to be any better. which fonts do you all use?
[08:11] <Nutubuntu> Every year for awhile now has been the year *before* "the year of IPv6" ... but the year of IPv6 never seems to come :/
[08:11] <Elvis> it's true...
[08:11] <zeeeee> r4ge, i fixed it - apparently, i had to disable that wireless toggle button functionality in the bios, or else the wireless device would always be off. that's totally screwed up.
[08:12] <Elvis> actually, with NAT being so good I don't think "the ipv6 year" is coming
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> It must be because IPv4 subnetting is so much fun ;p
[08:12] <Flannel> !away > Noldoaran
[08:12] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: set to 501
[08:12] <ajax4> scales11: Have you tried a different terminal program?
[08:13] <Coffeegrindah> Which is what I'm looking into now
[08:13] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: 501?  Well, there's your problem.  Should be 644
[08:13] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: ipv6 they're thinking might have scalability problems
[08:13] <keev> How can i write to a mounted disk? (I have WinXP Dual Boot)
[08:13] <Elvis> nutubuntu, do you know if is there any problem about the edgy and ipv6??
[08:14] <ajax4> keev: You want to copy something to your Windows partition?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> Elvis: ipv6 on edgy will cause your browsing to be slow
[08:14] <keev> ajax4, yes!
[08:14] <Frogzoo> Elvis: you want to disable it
[08:14] <scales11> ajax4: no, i didnt know there were any...suggestions?
[08:14] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo - IP6? um ... IPv6 has a 2^128 wide address space. It should scale okay ... IIRC that's enough to assign every grain of sand on Earth its own addy
[08:14] <keev> it says /media/disk is read only
[08:14] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  no idea about IPv6 and Edgy
[08:14] <Azu1> keev: install ntfs-config
[08:14] <ajax4> scales11: There are tons of them. Look in the synaptic repository.
[08:14] <Elvis> no, I do not want to disable it, actually, I want to use it!!!
[08:15] <keev> ok
[08:15] <scales11> k
[08:15] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: yes I know about 128 bit addresses, the scalability issues that worry them are in the protocol itself
[08:15] <Elvis> Frogzoo: have you tried to get it working and connect through ipv6?
[08:15] <pukeko> hardware raid vs software raid ... i have a aic7860 scsi card in a poweredge 2300, should i use the card for raid management or use mdadm to handle it ?  the box has 512RAM and is dual 333
[08:15] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo - okay, I see. Listen, I think we're way OT, so let's drop the theory ...
[08:15] <Lappy> ata1.00: exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[08:16] <mikedoty> Thanks again for the reminder, Flannel.  cache was right where ya said :)
[08:16] <George2> this is the error I get when i go to (non-quiet mode)
[08:16] <puff> Azu1: I didn't shut down windows at all.
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> pukeko - I was just reading about hw vs. sw RAID ... seems to me ppl advocate sw RAID for the sake of not depending on a proprietary hw solution
[08:16] <scales11> ok what terminals do you all use?
[08:17] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: Looking into it, I'll be back. The problem with Running live from a flash drive is that I'm not sure if any of these permissions will stick once i reboot.. (though a simple shell script will fix that)
[08:17] <Azu1> puff: go back to windows, shut it down properly, then boot to linux and try mounting it
[08:17] <keev> Azul! Thank you!
[08:17] <Azu1> keev: welcome
[08:18] <ajax4> scales11: xterm, wterm, aterm, eterm....tons of options.
[08:19] <scales11> ajax4: but which do you use?
[08:19] <Azu1> kosole
[08:19] <Azu1> quake consule
[08:19] <ticnailer69> is anyone familiar with beryl?
[08:19] <Azu1> ticnailer69: me, a little
[08:19] <ajax4> scales11: gnome-terminal, no problems with it.
[08:19] <ticnailer69> azul
[08:20] <Flannel> ticnailer69: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[08:20] <ticnailer69> I have an error when I try to run beryl from the command line
[08:21] <ticnailer69> says: extention "X-Free-DRI" missing on display
[08:21] <nzr> hey i have a quick question.
[08:21] <ticnailer69> what do u think?
[08:21] <ajax4> !ask | nzr
[08:21] <ubotu> nzr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:21] <Azu1> are you able to run it from Applications > System Tools?
[08:21] <ticnailer69> ummmm
[08:22] <ticnailer69> one min
[08:22] <Billy> hello?
[08:22] <nzr> i'm abount to put ubuntu on my desktop, i already have windows xp on it... do i need to use like.. partition magic to make a partition so i dont have to format my xp? or can i create a partition with the ubuntu live cd, without formatting my existing partiton
[08:22] <ticnailer69> no
[08:22] <Azu1> nzr: you can
[08:22] <LordLimeca1> is there anything that might cause mapped keys to not register properly?
[08:22] <nzr> i can create a partition w/o destroying data?
[08:22] <ajax4> nzr: If you have free space in your windows partition, it will shrink that partition and create a separate linux partition for you.
[08:22] <Azu1> ticnailer69: i don't know much about troubleshooting.. try #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <ticnailer69> I try to pick the beryl option but I think the program is crashing and sending me back to default
[08:23] <nzr> thank you so much
[08:23] <nzr> that saves me a lot of time.
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> nzr - any time you mess with partitioning, back up your data first.
[08:23] <ajax4> nzr: Yep, its pretty nifty :)
[08:23] <nzr> i've already backed up everything important :)
[08:23] <LordLimeca1> im sort of trying to figure out why the keypress doesnt show up in xev, but yet works in the default ubuntu media player
[08:23] <nzr> ttyl y'all!
[08:23] <ticnailer69> #xubuntu-effects
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> nzr - then you're good to go :)
[08:23] <ticnailer69> ok
[08:23] <Azu1> no, #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <ticnailer69> k
[08:24] <puff> Azu1: I wasnt' using it with windows, somebody else was using it to back up some files from a winbox.  It's a portable drive;  are they supposed to shut the winbox down entirely to remove it, or is there some simpler method?
[08:25] <killaz> In the dmesg I see this warning: [17180201.108000]  tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set, how can I set the tuner? I have a PVR-150
[08:26] <killaz> somewhere they say that I need to pathc my kernel for this message "tuner type not set" to leave
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> Hello, i've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks now,  and i've had no issues at all with my wireless when i've been at home. I'm at my friends house using his, 3 of us all in the same room, internet is fine for the rest, but for me i'm having some issues with connectivity.
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> Such as major loss of connectivity for about 2 minutes each time.
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> as i said, i've never had these issues at home, but my router is different.
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: i think they unplugged it without doing "safely remove device"
[08:27] <Sir-Integra> works perfectly on windows, but for some reason, not on ubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: or shutdown windows with the power button
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: it has to be unmounted correctly from windows
[08:27] <Sir-Integra> p.s sorry for the long essay, just making it more clear.
[08:27] <ticnailer69_> #ubuntu-effects? where would I enter that?
[08:27] <George2> !casper
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about casper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Sir-Integra>  type /join #ubuntu-effects
[08:28] <Azu1> puff: if you want you can try ntfs-fix or something.. the one it suggest you use.. but i haven't tried that
[08:28] <Azu1> so you're on your own
[08:28] <Azu1> puff: just plug it into a windows machine and do a safely remove hardware thang
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> ok
[08:28] <varka> killaz: try to determinde the kernelmodule responsible for the PVR and then add it with the option tuner=<number> to /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> forget it,LOL
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> pz
[08:30] <Sir-Integra> anyone have any insight on what would be causing my connectivity issues? as i said, works perfectly on windows.
[08:30] <springlarry> how to update to 7.10,!!!!
[08:30] <Sir-Integra> using a netgear router.
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: you probably dont want to
[08:30] <springlarry> how to update to 7.10,!!!!
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: dont repeat yourself please
[08:30] <crdlb> springlarry, if you don't know how, it's not a good idea
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> and 7.10 is heavily in beta (or alpha)
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> or somethin
[08:31] <Hobbsee> LordLimeca1: alpha
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> its due for release in october (november?)
[08:31] <Q_Continuum> should be in a rapidly-changing state, in any case.
[08:31] <springlarry> o,thanks,but alpha is notaproblem
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: ....is there some specific reason you want to upgrade?
[08:32] <LordLimeca1> im sure very few new features have even been added or are functional
[08:32] <crdlb> springlarry, anyway the right channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <crdlb> but I really don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing
[08:32] <springlarry> thanks. anyway.
[08:32] <Hobbsee> springlarry: if you have to ask, you clearly dont know much about dpkg and such.  which you will need, in order to fix gutsy when it breaks.
[08:32] <killaz> varka: so just add option tuner=50 to /etc/modprobe.d/options ?
[08:33] <LordLimeca1> anyone have any idea as to why certain keys are not performing the proper command (mapped with gconf)?
[08:33] <varka> killaz: i see, you have to put the options into /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv
[08:33] <varka> killaz: there are many hints for this adapter in the net, so google for more options to be set, but this should be the place to put them
[08:34] <varka> killaz: if the tunernumber doesnt work alone
[08:34] <bain> morning
[08:34] <ajax4> gtg later guys
[08:35] <puff> Azu1: Do I need to do anything aside from "umount /media/LACIE" to safely unmount it from the linux box?
[08:37] <Lekrem> i have a question, i got a game called nexuiz from the internet with 2 scripts: nexuiz-linux-glx.sh and nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh what are the difference between the two?
one uses glx the other sdl
[08:38] <lastkey0> Hello every one! I need help for mounting my USB drive
[08:38] <Lekrem> ismod: sorry for my ignorance but what r glx and sdl?
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> theyre graphics libraries
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> sort of like directx
 3d drivers for video cards some like nividia use glx etc
[08:40] <Azu1> puff: that's all you need to do.. i was telling you to unmount it properly from windows, not linux
[08:40] <Lekrem> insmod: and sdl?
[08:41] <lastkey0>  Hello every one! I need help for mounting my USB drive
 i think matrix and such -- not sure -- nvidia intel guy lol
[08:41] <Azu1> puff: the problem is you can't mount it with write support, because it was not mounted properly from windows.. plug it to a windows machine, unmount it properly then mount it on linux
[08:41] <Azu1> you dig?
[08:41] <kimmey> Do any know how to make it NOT only read-only?
[08:41] <kimmey> (The usb-drive)
man chmod
[08:42] <kimmey> I dont have the permissions to do it.. even if im root
[08:42] <kimmey> So im kinda stuck right now
[08:43] <kimmey> Any way to turn off automount and do it manually so I can set the mount options?
 fstab
[08:44] <kimmey> Ye.. I know that .. but now how to turn off automount for drives
[08:44] <kimmey> do you know it?:)
 if you edit the entry in fstab it overrides it
[08:45] <puff> Azu1: Yeah, I dig... just don't want to make any assumptions at this point :-).
[08:45] <d3m0> anyone in here on a dv9000t and have their mic working properly?
[08:45] <kimmey> Ah
[08:45] <kimmey> I must try that later :)
[08:45] <kimmey> Thanks for the tip
[08:45] <insmod> :)
[08:45] <Azu1> puff: coo
[08:45] <lastkey0> insmod: My automount used to work but now when I connect my usb drive it gives error " You are not privilliged to mount"
[08:46] <kimmey> Btw the filesystem on the drive is NTFS, so I should mount it with ntfs-3g .. that sounds right?
[08:46] <kimmey> or else if I could make all automounts on drives with ntfs to ntfs-3g
edit /etc/group
[08:46] <Sir-Integ> sigh
[08:46] <Sir-Integ> timed out again
[08:47] <Azu1> kimmey: you're thinking right
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> is there anyway to get my wireless card running faster than 11mbps?
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> i think that's what is causing my internet to have huge lag spikes.
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> since on windows, it runs perfect.
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <lastkey0> insmod: I have opened the file, now what to edit. can you please guide me
[08:47] <LordLimeca1> is there some reason why my keyboard shortcuts for amarok dont work if the key is mapped in gnome-keybindings or gconf?
[08:47] <LordLimeca1> but they do if i unmap them everywhere else?
 iwconfig -- or edit /etc/network/iterfaces
[08:48] <LordLimeca1> more imporantly, is there some way for my keyboard shortcuts to work for both amarok (a kde app) and the default gnome player as well
[08:48] <squeegee> I've looked and looked, but I've not been able to find an answer to this: can gnome on Ubuntu use viewports that support different wallpapers on each side of the cube (when I run beryl)?
[08:48] <Sir-Integ>  Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> :/
[08:49] <kimmey> Good to hear  Azu1 , hehe
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> that's bad.
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> sigh
 lol gnome and kde don't play well together
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[08:49] <Azu1> squeegee: try #ubuntu-effects
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> but amarok is sexy -_-
[08:49] <Lekrem> help please i have a repo file and i have no idea how to install it
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> cant gnome make an exception?
[08:49] <squeegee> azul, thx
[08:49] <Azu1> np
[08:49] <Azu1> LordLimeca1: i love amarok too.. too bad it's kde
[08:50] <Lekrem> squeegee: or u cud try beryl
[08:50] <Lekrem> help anyone?
[08:50] <Sir-Integ> insmod, how would i go about highering the speed rate?
[08:50] <squeegee> lekrem: thanks
[08:50] <Sir-Integ> i'm new to ubuntu/linux.
[08:50] <LordLimeca1> Azu1: would i be correct in assuming that if it had been created as a gnome app, then it would automatically work with the gnome-keybindings?
[08:51] <Sir-Integ> but for some reason, i keep getting bad disconnects and packet loss, but my windows machine runs perfect :/
[08:51] <Lekrem> anyone?
[08:51] <Sir-Integ> and i'm basically sitting next to the router.
[08:51] <Azu1> LordLimeca1: i'm not sure but i don't think so
[08:52] <LordLimeca1> Sir-Integ: where are you getting the packet drops?
man iwconfig
[08:52] <Lekrem> dudes?
[08:52] <LordLimeca1> yea?
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> I'm not sure, it's everywhere.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> i visit a site
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> boom, it drops, or i go on irc, it drops.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> but my windows machines are running perfect, no issues at all.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> and they're all using wireless too.
[08:52] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: i have a repo file and i have no idea how to install it
[08:53] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem: you have a .deb file?
[08:53] <LordLimeca1> dblclick
[08:53] <linnuxxy> I get alot of this type of warnings when I try to apt-get anything dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xfce4-appfinder' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:53] <linnuxxy> how can i fix it
[08:53] <linnuxxy> i had a problem in the file system this morning
[08:54] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: its a .repo file and it opens with gedit when i dble-click it
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> o.0 never seen one....whats in it
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> !paste it
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> !paste
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[08:54] <Sir-Integ>  Link Quality=43/100  Signal level=-60 dBm  Noise level=-70 dBm
[08:55] <Sir-Integ> not sure if that's bad or good.
[08:55] <barata> guys, can I delete synaptic cache? where is it?
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> Sir-Integ: youre using wireless?
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> o.0
[08:55] <barata> is it in /var/cache?
[08:55] <Sir-Integ> Yes.
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> ah-hah sort of
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> cant hardwire?
[08:55] <barata> are you replying to me SiliconViper
[08:55] <barata> Sir-Integ,
[08:56] <linnuxxy> I get alot of this type of warnings when I try to apt-get anything                  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xfce4-appfinder' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:56] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24674/
[08:57] <killaz> varka:  thnx I jupst added the options ivtv tune=50 to the /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> no, i can't, it's not my house.
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> but i have a windows laptop right next to me
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> working pefect.
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> so i'm assuming it's down to ubuntu :/
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> linnuxxy,  try sudo apt-get  autoclean
[08:57] <killaz> and it's working
[08:57] <varka> killaz: fine, seems to be interchangeable
[08:59] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24674/
[08:59] <KI4IKL> can anyone offer some help in installing synergy?
[09:00] <Sir-Integ> doesn't apt-get install synergy work?
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys Im a little worried here when I typed "sensors" in to a terminal I got the following out put k8temp-pci-00c3
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Adapter: PCI adapter
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Core0 Temp:
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE>              +70C
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Core1 Temp:
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE>              +70C
[09:01] <Lekrem> !paste
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[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone]
[09:01] <varka> Paddy_EIRE: a bit too cold, isnt it?
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone here help me?
[09:01] <Sir-Integ> what's your issue?
[09:02] <Paddy_EIRE> look up ^^^
[09:03] <LordLimeca1> back, lekrem
[09:03] <LordLimeca1> one sec
[09:04] <LordLimeca1> i dont think thats for you
[09:04] <Sir-Integ> you just pasted temps, you never said what your issue was.
[09:04] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem: where did you get that file?
[09:05] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: http://pidgin.im/pidgin/download/
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> ah
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> but youre using ubuntu, correct
[09:05] <Lekrem> yup
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> thats for fedora
[09:05] <puff> Hm, genisoimage: Directories too deep for 'foo/branches/foo1/docs/sitemockup/assets/Fireworks/CVS' (7) max is 6. :-( write failed: Input/output error
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> uses rpms, not .debs
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> one sec, ill point you to the pidgin files :)
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> its not in our repos yet
[09:06] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1 there are no packages
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> i just got it going
[09:06] <puff> Short of gzipping it, which I'd rather not because I'd like to be able to just browse the DVD, is there any workaround for this?
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> yea, there are, but not on that site
[09:06] <FOXONFIRE> hello everyone
[09:08] <LordLimeca1> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:08] <LordLimeca1> bam
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Im very worried about this laptop, its brand new... when I typed "sensors" into a terminal I got "Core0 Temp: +70 degrees!!  now this has me very worried
[09:09] <knoppix__> hat
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: i get more disturbing numbers
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> i wouldnt worry bout it
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> apparently, my processor is on fire as we speak
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> i should probably put that out :)
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, oh, when should I start getting worried
[09:09] <fdoving> Paddy_EIRE: mine is 67.
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[09:09] <KI4IKL> "checking for c++ compiler warning flags... -Wall -Wno-unknown-pragmas | checking for C++ compiler warning are errors flags... -Werror"     <<<I got that when ./configure on synergy
[09:10] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: when you confirm that its configured correctly, and that it is actually giving you the proper numbers :)
[09:10] <fdoving> KI4IKL: get the build-essential package
[09:10] <zero> there is any way to run a windows application on ubuntu like dreamweaver?
[09:10] <KI4IKL> I have it.
[09:10] <LordLimeca1> THEN you can be concerned
[09:10] <CheshireViking> !wine | zero
[09:10] <ubotu> zero: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, why assume otherwise
[09:10] <KI4IKL> fdoving, I do have build essentials
[09:10] <FOXONFIRE> I have a question hopefully someone knows this:how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III
[09:10] <beardbar> is there a way to install a video driver without going the xwindows configurator?
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: because it doesnt really work at all with mine, one of the sensors reads 0 and the other reads like 104C
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> wait, maybe it was 132
[09:11] <killjoy> If I installed an application by installing it's .deb file with the package installer, and then a new version comes out, can I simply install the new .deb over the old installed app?  Will it do the right thing, or do I need to remove the old version first?
[09:11] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: 404
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> regardless, its totally off
[09:11] <KI4IKL> fdoving, I already have build essential
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> o.0 maybe it was lmsensors
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> sensors seems to be ok here....
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, may not be the case with me! I dont want ubuntu breaking my laptop!! no amount of free is worth that
[09:12] <fdoving> KI4IKL: can you paste the complete error to a pastebin?
[09:12] <bonii> Today since morning whenever I am surfing a site on firefox the system hangs and CPU usage goes to 100%. What may be the problem?
[09:12] <atomiku> How can I burn my files to a CD in ubuntu?
[09:12] <fdoving> !pastebin > ki4ikl
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: do you have windows installed?
[09:12] <Sir-Integ> !pastebin | ki4ikl
[09:12] <KI4IKL> I typed ./configure, everythign else was okay, that was the only error part
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[09:12] <LordLimeca1> if so, id see if you can run speedfan in windows and compare the temps there
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, I dual boot vista
[09:12] <fdoving> KI4IKL: it checks for error flags. it's not an error unless it fails.
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> alright, go ahead and run speedfan in vista and check the temps
[09:13] <KI4IKL> Found it.
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> or some other temp monitor
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, but that is irrelevant as ubuntu would not be running when I check in win
[09:13] <bonii> When I start Firefox there is no problem but when I put in a site name the system hangs and Firefox stops responding though the page opens up. Please help. I am using Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:13] <beardbar> ubuntu detected the generic video card, i need to install a specific driver for my VIA chrome9 video card, anyone know where i can look for one and install it?
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: it would let you see if windows runs  @ the same temp, or if its something that needs to be troubleshot
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, oh I get you
[09:14] <killjoy> If I installed an application by installing it's .deb file with the package installer, and then a new version comes out, can I simply install the new .deb over the old installed app?  Will it do the right thing, or do I need to remove the old version first?
[09:14] <LordLimeca1> if its the same temp in windows, then you may have a bios configuration issue, or a hardware issue
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, rather worrying, maybe my bios will let me set a shutdown temp
[09:14] <agentnoob> killjoy: it will replace the old one
[09:14] <agentnoob> killjoy: unless you specify otherwise
[09:15] <puff> Azu1: Drat... lacie drive doesn't show up when I plug into the windows box.
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: i would ALWAYS set one, though i dont think theres too much reason to worry....
[09:15] <killjoy> agentnoob: great thanks
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> AFAIK, all modern processors will not burn up if you remove their fan/heatsink--theyll just slow down
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> i wouldnt try it.....cause i could be wrong
[09:15] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: what is his temp?
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> but im pretty sure
[09:15] <cafuego> You are
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, ok, I just love this laptop and would buy another of the same if possible
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> agentnoob: sensors reports 70c
[09:15] <Azu1> puff: you might have a problem with the lacie drive then.. or the lacie driver on windows
[09:15] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: oh I'm normally just under 60C myself
[09:15] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: The mobo sensors will probably kill the system,
[09:15] <Azu1> puff: btw, wtf is a lacie drive?
[09:16] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: but they won't slow the box down
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: im referring to the actual on-cpu sensors
[09:16] <puff> Azu1: Ah... hm, might be that particular lacie drive.  I plugged in another one and it popped up.
[09:16] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: bet if i gamed a while and even attempted to use full ram I could reach 80 C easily
[09:16] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, try playing a video from file and running beryl at the same time then check
[09:16] <cafuego> agentnoob: that's insane, what sort of cpu is that?
[09:16] <KI4IKL> Is there any alternative to synergy?
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> the system simply slowed down to 1fps
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> instead of catchin fire
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> resumed working once heatsink was replaced
[09:17] <atomiku> How can I get to the CD/DVD creator? I dont have gnome-panel
[09:17] <puff> Azu1: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10651
[09:17] <onions> any body using anjuta for wxwidget program
[09:17] <KI4IKL> posted, fdoving ...paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24675
[09:17] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: they *could* run without active cooling at least; today's system can't.
[09:17] <puff> Azu1: In a nutshell, portable USB drive whose case was designed by Porsche.
[09:17] <agentnoob> cafuego: turion 64, its got a shitty plastic keyboard too one button already melted and snapped had to replace it
[09:17] <Azu1> puff: uggg
[09:17] <Azu1> puff: i had bad history with those external hard drives
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> cafuego, would love to see a water cooled laptop
[09:18] <agentnoob> cafuego: besides that, bios bug error, and facts if I do ctrl alt f1 most the screen is blurred or cut off. It runs fine
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> Cafuego: not saying that the system would do anything, but im 95% positive if you did it with your system, no damage would actually occur
[09:18] <fdoving> KI4IKL: that's a command, not an error.
[09:18] <Azu1> puff: me and my friends.. they always fail.. get a flash drive instead
[09:18] <onions> any body using anjuta for wxWidget program ?
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: and not because of mobo shutoff
[09:18] <KI4IKL> oh...but it does that over and over and over
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> but again, dont attempt
[09:18] <KI4IKL> make
[09:18] <agentnoob> onions: I sometimes toy with anjuta but haven't gotten into wxWidget
[09:18] <puff> Azu1: Gotta 250GB flash drive?
[09:18] <KI4IKL> argh, wrong keyboard
[09:18] <Sir-Integ> i have a core duo, i run beryl and video files, works perfect.
[09:18] <KI4IKL> fdoving, it does that over and over and over and over.
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Sir-Integ, Im using an AMD Turion 64 but running 32bit feisty
[09:19] <fdoving> KI4IKL: yep, it's copiling. it's correct, when it stops it's finished.
[09:19] <zero> !anjuta | zero
[09:19] <onions> then what tool are you using for window-style program ?
[09:19] <Azu1> puff: now?? i got a maxtor 300GB drive.. but it's big and not mobile
[09:19] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: me too
[09:19] <Sir-Integ> I'm using 32bit too, although mines a better processor, so i can't say much :/
[09:19] <Azu1> puff: mechanical memory is not as reliable as electronic memory
[09:19] <zero> mm dont work in that way
[09:19] <puff> Azu1: Yeah, mainly I'm using them as a portable backup device.
[09:19] <zero> !anjuta
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anjuta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: I was using amd64 but tried installing savage and a few 32 bit dependencies and whole system died on reboot
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, it does wizz along though :D
[09:20] <KI4IKL> thanks, fdov
[09:20] <Azu1> puff: if you're gonna still use those.. be SUPER careful they don't move while you are accessing them
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, savage?
[09:20] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: yeah its a nice rts/fps game for linux
[09:20] <tondar> hey all
[09:20] <puff> Azu1: Where's the "safeuly unmount" option?  It doesn't show up when I right-click on it in My Computer.
[09:20] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:20] <tondar> does vmware support 3d acc ?
[09:20] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/104
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> !savage | Paddy_EIRE
[09:20] <LordLimeca1> newer athalons should have it too
[09:20] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: its workin, thx
[09:20] <tondar> I want to have beryl inside my vm
[09:20] <Azu1> puff: look in the task bar.. there is a little disk icon with a green arrow
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem:  :D the icon sucks tho :(
[09:21] <magnetron> !info savage > Paddy_EIRE
[09:21] <Azu1> left-click and choose safely remove hardware
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> in a few weeks it should be added to repos, i hope
[09:21] <Lekrem> icon?
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> the icon in the gnome menu
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> its blank for pidgin
[09:21] <kenthomson> QUESTION: whenever i connect my mp3 (UMS) player to the USB port it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO (it somehow got setup like that). Now i have deleted that particular entry in Amarok>Devices, but still whenever i plug it in it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO. How do i stop this from happening? Let's say i want it to mount at /mnt/usb, how do i stop this automatic mounting from happening and edit it to configure a different m
[09:21] <kenthomson> ount point?
[09:21] <Lekrem> u cud probaly change it
[09:21] <Azu1> pidgin.. i hate that name
[09:22] <Lekrem> haha
[09:22] <puff> Azu1: Ah, got it.
[09:22] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.happypuppy.com/s2games/Savage_with_sep3t.run
[09:22] <tondar> anyone know how I could upgrade to pidgin 2.0.1
[09:22] <tondar> ?
[09:22] <puff> Wtf?  "The device 'Generic volume' cannot be stopped right now.  Try stopping the device again later."
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> tondar: its not in our repos yet.....
[09:22] <immibis> puff: you probably have something from that drive open
[09:22] <tondar> LordLimeca1: when will it be available
[09:23] <tondar> ?
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: yes
[09:23] <tondar> Lilacor: ?
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: download the tarball, compile it and install it
[09:23] <onions> http://bots.unbuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi is on ? I'm not getting to it.
[09:23] <Azu1> puff: windows sometimes right stuff on connected devices without you knowing it.. so try later
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, looks fantastic
[09:23] <puff> Ah, yeah, that's the problem.
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> tondar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:23] <tondar> Lilacor: tar is downloaded
[09:23] <kenthomson> can someone help disable the automatic mounting of my USB-key?
[09:23] <Azu1> puff: the worst case is restart
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: unpack it, configure it, compile it, install it
[09:23] <puff> Found the explorer window that automatically popped up, closed it, that did the trick.
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> Lilacor: not necessary: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:23] <Azu1> cool
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> .debs :D
[09:24] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, I will try to install this at some point and let you know how I got on... any contact details
[09:24] <Lilacor> LordLimeca1: I have no problem using tarballs so I use those..
[09:24] <kenthomson> tell me how to disable automatic mounting of my usb key
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> whatever works :)
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> i find it a chore
[09:24] <Lilacor> indeed
[09:24] <magnetron> kenthomson: System menu > preferences > portable media
[09:24] <KI4IKL> is there an alternative to synergy??
[09:24] <tondar> Lilacor: will it install on the previous version ?
[09:25] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: oh it works fine for me, just grabbed 4 old libraries from breezy and installed stdc++ libc 2.10
[09:25] <Lilacor> tondar: it will overwrite the old version
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> tondar: youll want to remove gaim
[09:25] <Azu1> what is synergy?
[09:25] <no0b> Does anyone know if there's a firewall already on when you install ubuntu?
[09:25] <kenthomson> magnetron, no portable media there, maybe i will have to edit the menu
[09:25] <KI4IKL> Shares mouse and keyboard between two pc's
[09:25] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: if you do ./update in the folder it creates it lists what it requires
[09:25] <tondar> LordLimeca1: I dont use gaim
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> tondar: oh
[09:25] <magnetron> kenthomson: i am not sure of the english name, it should be something similar
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, nice one thx for the tip
[09:26] <Azu1> agentnoob: nice name
[09:26] <tondar> Lilacor: unpacked on desktop
[09:26] <no0b> Is there a firewall with ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn?
[09:26] <tondar> Lilacor: ./configure ?
[09:26] <kenthomson> magnetron, Removable drives and media looks the most promising let me have a lookj
[09:26] <Lilacor> tondar: apt-get build-dep gaim
[09:26] <Lilacor> tondar: ./configure, make, make install
[09:26] <tondar> no0b: firestarter
[09:26] <tondar> no0b: use that
[09:27] <tondar> Lilacor: thanks
[09:27] <no0b> Ok, where do I find the settings for this, firestarter?
[09:27] <magnetron> no0b: yes, but you will probably not need to configure it. if you want, you can use firestarter to configure it
[09:27] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:27] <tondar> Lilacor: do I need to close pidgin before?
[09:27] <no0b> No, something is blocking my ports.
[09:27] <Lilacor> tondar: kill it yes
[09:27] <magnetron> no0b: you have to install it
[09:27] <no0b> Ok, so no firewall comes with ubuntu?
[09:27] <kenthomson> magnetron, what i wish to do is to change the mount point of my audio player it gets mounted at /media/IAUDIO i want it to be at /mnt/IAUDIO, how do i do that?
[09:28] <keeeev> no0b sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:28] <no0b> Who has trouble with ktorrent?
[09:28] <magnetron> !firewall | no0b
[09:28] <ubotu> no0b: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: there is iptables if you want a firewall, however if your using desktop ubuntu and not a server you most likely don't need one
[09:28] <no0b> Man, it's dowloading at 0.1 kbs?
[09:28] <kenthomson> magnetron, ?
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: what is?
[09:28] <no0b> like Im gona be here forever.
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: oh I use bit tornado
[09:28] <no0b> A PDF file from isohunt.
[09:28] <Flyinion> Linux newbie looking for help getting 8800GTS nvidia drivers to not "crash" X after installing
[09:29] <magnetron> kenthomson: ask the channel, i answer if i have an answer
[09:29] <agentnoob> no0b: you might want to turn up share ratio then
[09:29] <no0b> so how do I do that friend?
[09:29] <kenthomson> magnetron, i have already asked it a couple of times here it goes again
[09:29] <no0b> with ktorrent
[09:29] <agentnoob> Flyinion: I can help
[09:29] <kenthomson> QUESTION: whenever i connect my mp3 (UMS) player to the USB port it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO (it somehow got setup like that). Now i have deleted that particular entry in Amarok>Devices, but still whenever i plug it in it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO. How do i stop this from happening? Let's say i want it to mount at /mnt/usb, how do i stop this automatic mounting from happening and edit it to configure a different m
 ount point?
[09:29] <magnetron> !repeat | kenthomson
[09:29] <ubotu> kenthomson: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:29] <kenthomson> magnetron, Do you have an answer to my question??
[09:29] <agentnoob> Flyinion: wait here I be back in a sec
[09:29] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: I found the icon for pidgin /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/tray/22/tray-online.png
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> nice :D
[09:30] <keeeev> is there a way to keep users out of the / dir
[09:30] <magnetron> !patience > kenthomson        (read private message from ubotu)
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> thanks, ill add it
[09:30] <keeeev> i did chmod 700 to /home/kev to keep them out
[09:30] <no0b> but it has 120 max connections, I think that's enough?
[09:30] <keeeev> but they can still veiw /
[09:30] <kenthomson> magnetron, Do you have an answer to my bloody question>
[09:30] <no0b> What's UDP tracker port?
[09:31] <keeeev> Is there another Terminal you can use(Which looks better graphical?)
[09:31] <yobrien> xterm
[09:31] <magnetron> !repeat | kenthomson (this is for you kenthomson, this is why i don't answer)
[09:31] <ubotu> kenthomson (this is for you kenthomson, this is why i don't answer): Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:31] <Azu1> gnome-terminal looks ok
[09:31] <Guest619> hi guys
[09:32] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: I get errors
[09:32] <tondar> ?!!
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: in the make process
[09:32] <Lilacor> tondar: such as?
[09:32] <phantam1> is their a way to do ubuntu onto a usbkey from windows... without having to burn a cd?
[09:32] <kenthomson> magnetron, how much brains does it take for you to answer whether you know the answer to my question, if yes stop mucking around and answer the damn question. I am desperate for it since 2 days now
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: well, need to pastebin it
[09:32] <LordLimeca1> kenthomson: ima give you a bit of advice
[09:33] <LordLimeca1> ive been in your situation before, with huge problems for days
[09:33] <Plantain> Hey all
[09:33] <no0b> I have big headache now
[09:33] <LordLimeca1> it happens, but getting angry or being impolite in ircs just gets you ignored
[09:33] <Plantain> I've been asking for a few days now, and no one seems to know, but I guess another try won't hurt
[09:33] <yobrien> !ask | all
[09:33] <ubotu> all: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:33] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:33] <Plantain> Anyone got experience with installing ubuntu to an external disk under a PPC iBook?
[09:33] <kenthomson> LordLimeca1, Thank you for that golden advice i would have died without it
[09:34] <LordLimeca1> if people dont answer, kenthomson, its very possible they either dont know, or just dont wanna answer
[09:34] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: use the alternate install cd, it has a text installer
[09:34] <LordLimeca1> kenthomson: see, right there, i lost any desire to keep talking to you
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: can't paste bi
[09:34] <FOXONFIRE> thank you!!!
[09:34] <phantam1> so is their a way to do ubuntu onto a usbkey (from windows) without burning the livecd (i have no burner right now :( )
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: the site gives error
[09:34] <Lilacor> tondar: can't help you with that
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: any other sites for pasting
[09:34] <tondar> ?
[09:34] <afflux> phantam1: yes, it is. give me a second
[09:35] <afflux> phantam1: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[09:35] <Lilacor> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <FOXONFIRE> where I get the alternate cd whit the text installer
[09:35] <Lilacor> dunno
[09:35] <Lilacor> FOXONFIRE: from the ubuntu website
[09:35] <phantam1> thx checking it out now
[09:36] <FOXONFIRE> thank you again!!
[09:36] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: it's kind of hidden. you have to check the checkbox on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:36] <pavs> whats the command to find my kernel version?
[09:37] <afflux> pavs: uname -r
[09:37] <pavs> tnx
[09:37] <kenthomson> QUESTION: How do i edit the config file for HAL? ( i need the name of the file and what ti edit in it). THe point is my usb-key gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO i don't what that too happen but i want it to get mounted at /mnt/IAUDIO. Can you HELP?
[09:37] <keeeev> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 7.04 - feisty Kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.2.0 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.8.0
[09:38] <immibis> why not symbolic-link /mnt/IAUDIO to /media/IAUDIO
[09:38] <tim167> how do I make a 1 on 1, bootable backup of a ubuntu harddisk ?
[09:38] <yobrien> kenthomson: what iaudio player have you got?
[09:38] <immibis> keeeev: ln -s /media/IAUDIO /mnt/IAUDIO
[09:38] <Gerro> hey anyone know why NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run has a pkg2.run pkg3.run pkg4.run etc?
[09:38] <kenthomson> immibis, because i want to see that HAL file and how to edit it
[09:38] <kenthomson> yobrien, Cowon Iaudio u2 - 2gb
[09:39] <immibis> try dd if=/dev/DISK of=/PATH/TO/BACKUP
[09:39] <immibis> that is tim167
[09:39] <kenthomson> immibis, you see what if i don't want my IAUDIO to be mounted specifically like that but simply as a sda1, how do i do it?
[09:39] <immibis> i don't know
[09:39] <immibis> what's HAL?
[09:39] <keeeev> inmibis?
[09:39] <tim167> immibis ok
[09:39] <keeeev>  ln -s /media/IAUDIO /mnt/IAUDIO ? you wanted me to do this for?
[09:39] <immibis> you won't be able to make a backup to the same drive which is being backed up, obviously
[09:40] <FOXONFIRE> Afflux how about alternate cd for edunbutu ?
[09:40] <JABJabJA1> has any a clue on how to convert my /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml from the XML structure to line format eg "/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled false" so that i can place then into /usr/share/gconf/defaults directory
[09:40] <yobrien> kenthomson: cant you create a symlink ?
[09:40] <immibis> keeeev: then you can use /mnt/IAUDIO and that's where you wanted it, isn't it?
[09:40] <phantam1> hey afflux does ubuntu come with beryl and the other 3d stuff now (sorry to be a bug, in your ear tonight for something thats probably a stupid question lol)
[09:40] <tim167> immibis, in a terminal inside ubuntu or do i have to boot from a live cd ?
[09:40] <immibis> where are you backing up to?
[09:41] <tim167> immibis, a new empty harddisk
[09:41] <afflux> phantam1: yes. you can just enable it with the "desktop-effects" tool. You can find it in Systen -> Settings
[09:41] <phantam1> hmmm the install from windows says to use 6.06 or 6.10 ... does that mean its not the same for 7.04?
[09:41] <immibis> dd if=/dev/OLDDISK of=/dev/NEWDISK
[09:41] <kenthomson> keeeev, yobrien, immibis, somehow my machine automatically mounts my USB-player to /media/IAUDIO, what i want to do is change the mount point OR to make it behave so that it is mounted as a normal usb drive like sda1, sda2. How do i do it?
[09:41] <immibis> you may need to be root
[09:41] <afflux> phantam1: (it's compiz and only  in 7.04)
[09:41] <immibis> that is, tim167 may need to be root
[09:41] <yetnot> where turkhish chat ubuntu ?
[09:42] <keeeev> oh
[09:42] <Gerro> yetnot: omg there a turkhish chat ubuntu? dude invite me to it
[09:42] <yetnot> hmm
[09:42] <tim167> immibis, ok I'll try that this afternoon...does that also copy swap partition and bootsector etc ?
[09:42] <keeeev> then mount it in /media/USB-PLAYER
[09:42] <yobrien> kenthomson: why cant you use a symlink?
[09:42] <keeeev> make sure you mkdir before you mount it
[09:42] <CheshireViking> !tr | yetnot
[09:42] <ubotu> yetnot: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:42] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: oh. It seems like there is no alternate cd installer for edubuntu. sorry.
[09:42] <yetnot> teekkrler
[09:42] <osfameron> ah "tr".  I was wondering if it'd be "my" or something for magyar
[09:43] <Guest256> compiz?
[09:43] <FOXONFIRE> no problem thank you for your help Afflux!
[09:43] <kenthomson> yobrien, keeeev, i am not using a symlink because i want to know the file that automatically mounts my usb devices. If i were to mount it manually than all would be fine, but i want to see what file is causing it to mount at /media/IAUDIO and edit that file so that it mounts it at /mnt/IAUDIO or maybe as simple a sda1 so that if we edit the config file no extra options would be necessary
[09:44] <yetnot> ubotu: neden orada kimse yok
[09:44] <afflux> kenthomson: you can add a line for the device (/dev/sdasomething) in /etc/fstab
[09:44] <phantam1> afflux: compiz?... also the tutorial for the usbkey says to use edgy or dapper.. (6.06 or 6.10) is their an issue with using 7.04? or something i need to do different
[09:45] <afflux> phantam1: err... possible. maybe it's just outdated.
[09:45] <kenthomson> afflux, i saw my /etc/fstab and there is no mention of the usb thing in there, so i am wondering which file automatically mount my IAUDIO player to that mount point and want to edit that file itself
[09:45] <afflux> kenthomson: type "mount" when the player is mounted, you should get all necesary information from it (means: filesystem, mountoptions, /dev/anything)
[09:45] <KI4IKL> If I restart x will it kill firefox?
[09:46] <immibis> probably
[09:46] <afflux> kenthomson: yes, it is actually mounted via gnome and hal, but an entry in fstab would stop this.
[09:46] <FOXONFIRE> kenthomson there is a file inside your usb drive where you can edit to change the auto mount something like cd autoplayer
[09:46] <phantam1> hehe that doesnt sound reassuring lol
[09:46] <Jinesh> ki4ikl : it should
[09:46] <afflux> KI4IKL: it will, yes. all running applications in X will be killed
[09:46] <yetnot> ubotu:
[09:46] <tim167>  immibis: do I have to format the new disk first ? before doing dd if=/dev/olddisk of=/dev/newdisk ?
[09:46] <kenthomson> FOXONFIRE, please tell me again, i didn't get you
[09:46] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: no, there isn't.
[09:46] <incorrect> is there a howto to install the nvidia xorg driver?
[09:46] <Jinesh> how can i transfer my files between windows host and ubuntu guest on VMware
[09:46] <FOXONFIRE> there is a hide file
[09:47] <crdlb> !nvidia | incorrect
[09:47] <ubotu> incorrect: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <tim167> incorrect: you can use 'envy'
[09:47] <kenthomson> afflux, but than i want to see what interfaces are automatically mounting it that way and want to edit them, as my /etc/fstab has no mention of the USB thing i think two different config files one trying to mount the same USB to location A and another to location B is not nice
[09:47] <crdlb> tim167, please don't recommend envy
[09:47] <Lilacor> Jinesh: if you're using workstation 6, use shared folders
[09:47] <afflux> kenthomson: well, the hal thing is just for any device not listed in fstab.
[09:47] <Jinesh> nope i am using 5.5.3
[09:47] <afflux> kenthomson: anyway, i'm searching for the config file of hal.
[09:47] <tim167> crdlb why not ? it works well here
[09:48] <Lilacor> Jinesh: upgrade to 6 and use shared folders then
[09:48] <crdlb> !envy | tim167
[09:48] <ubotu> tim167: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:48] <crdlb> there's simply no reason to use it
[09:48] <Jinesh> vm allows upgrade or i ll have to uninstall
[09:48] <Lilacor> Jinesh: or try to use samba between machines
[09:48] <IRC> what can be the UMASK value for default executable permission
[09:48] <Jinesh> samba wats tht sir ?
[09:48] <Lilacor> !samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:49] <tim167> crdlb, ok I wont recommend it then, but it never broke any machine and i used it on several...
[09:49] <Kroulee> Anyone know if you can and how you can open wine programs installed on other users?
[09:49] <IRC> what can be the UMASK value for default executable permission?? anyone
[09:49] <phantam1> which version is  "feisty"
[09:50] <forsaken> I have an ubuntu install and every time I login to gnome it crashs, anyone know why this might be?
[09:50] <crdlb> !feisty | phantam1
[09:50] <ubotu> phantam1: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[09:50] <yobrien> IRC: What do you  mean default executable permission?
[09:50] <kenthomson> crdlb, i am having a Digital Audio Playet (Cowon Iaudio u2), that works like a simple usb key (supports USB), now the point is whenever i plug it in it gets mounted at /media/IAUDIO. WHat config file could be causing this behaviour? ANd how do i make it mount at some place else?
[09:50] <kwtm> If I set up sshd (OpenSSH Server), how do I check what the RSA key is supposed to be?
[09:51] <afflux> kenthomson: doh. It seems we need to change the udev config, not the hal
[09:51] <tondar> anyone here ever used vmgl?
[09:51] <Kroulee> Anyone know how to run WINE programs installed on another User?
[09:51] <IRC> to make the file at executable state when the file is created?
[09:51] <kenthomson> afflux, and how do we go about doing that?
[09:52] <Lilacor> IRC I think you're looking for 'umask'
[09:52] <kwtm> When I try to SSH into my server, it says, "Are you sure the host key is b3:52:a1: .... " etc.  What do I compare that to?  Where on the host will it say "b3:52:a1:..." to confirm that I have the right key?
[09:52] <gejr> Does anyone know how to setup another user for Apache2 on ubuntu server? Do i need to use virtual sites? I can't find a good guide anywhere.
[09:52] <phantam1> ah
[09:52] <phantam1> hmmm
[09:52] <IRC> ya i am looking for umask value
[09:52] <Kroulee> Anyone know how to run WINE programs installed on another User?
[09:52] <KI4IKL> "checking for c++ compiler warning flags... -Wall -Wno-unknown-pragmas | checking for C++ compiler warning are errors flags... -Werror"
[09:52] <yobrien> IRC: umask is a mask that is ANDed with the permissions a program tries to use so you cant set it to always have the x bit set
[09:52] <Lilacor> IRC take 777 and subtract
[09:52] <phantam1> Feisty will not be persistent on a USB pendrive due to a version mismatch between Unionfs and the kernel
[09:52] <phantam1> arggg
[09:52] <phantam1> that doesnt look good
[09:53] <Lilacor>  421 421 421 rwxrwxrwx