[03:42] <xu-irc18w> Hi. I'm installing Linux on a Chromebook for a friend. It doesn't seem to have enough RAM for the GUI installers. I was trying to install Ubuntu-mate first, but I can't figure out how to get into a text mode installer. Does Xbuntu have a text installer?
[03:43] <xu-irc18w> PS I didn't see any users in the #Ubuntu-Mate room
[08:29] <repencha> Gday boys
[08:29] <repencha> So I am currently installing Xubuntu, and am finding that the installer seems to either be really reall slow, or pause randomly during installation
[08:30] <repencha> I started installing around 11am, and it is now 4:30pm, still installing
[08:31] <repencha> This installation is a partition onto a 64gb thumb-drive
[08:34] <bodiccea> Which usb level do you have ? PS port and thumb-drive ?
[08:34] <bodiccea> PC
[08:37] <repencha> How do I find out? And do you just mean a standard blue usb port?\
[08:37] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: are you sure the thumbdrive you're installing too is ok?
[08:38] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: blue usually means USB 3.0, but that doesn't matter if the thumbddrive is 2.0
[08:39] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: did you check 'dmesg', to see if there are any weird messages there?
[08:42] <repencha> So the USB I am partitioning onto is called a Cruzer Blade 64gb (USB 2.0)
[08:45] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: so it's an older slower drive
[08:45] <repencha> https://pastebin.com/raw/Q6d2tkHq
[08:45] <repencha> I apologies for using pastebin but this version has no ads
[08:45] <pmjdebruijn> no prob
[08:46] <pmjdebruijn> that looks fine, ish... i'm not that familiar with nouveau
[08:52] <repencha> So you guys think the problem is the outdated usb? I mean it's been going for 5 hours, usually it takes about 30 minutes
[08:57] <bodiccea> On same key ?
[08:57] <repencha> What does that mean?
[08:58] <bodiccea> you said usually it takes 30 min, on same thumb drive ?
[08:59] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: 5 hours is excessive on anything really
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> repencha: but how old is that thumbdrive? just because dmesg doesn't show anything doesn't mean the drive is reliably/fast
[09:00] <repencha> Usually takes 30 minutes to install to a standard SSD, I have never attempted to install xubuntu onto this thumb-drive before
[09:01] <repencha> Could you please reword that pmj? "dmesg doesnt show anything doesnt mean the drive is reliable/fast"
[09:01] <repencha> I did post the pastebin
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> the dmesg does not show your usb drive is broken in an obvious way
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> but that doesn't mean it's not broken
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> if you're used taht drive a lot already, it may be toward the end of it's lifecycle, and thus now performing poorly
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> also, have you tried installing on a diferent usb drive?
[09:03] <repencha> I bought it fresh from the store at the start of the year
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> at least then you know whether it's the drive or not, or whether you're hitting some generic installer bug that only shows up with usb drives or something
[09:03] <repencha> I don't currently have any other 64gb USB's available to stress test this problem on
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> installing to a usb drive is not exactly common
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> you don't need a 64gb drive to test this
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> 16 would probably would too, i'm guessing
[09:04] <repencha> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/24587ee78d6f690cfc09d04388285c2d/image.png
[09:06] <repencha> Can you guys just pray to the tech gods this stops taking for ever
[09:07] <pmjdebruijn> again installing to a usb drive isn't exactly the most common usecase
[09:10] <repencha> I am very poor, I have to pay for all my dental bills and landre addiction, I can't exactly afford a second Hard-drive
[09:19] <pmjdebruijn> why do you think you need a second harddisk, you can just partition the one you have
[09:19] <pmjdebruijn> though that must be done rather carefully
[09:19] <pmjdebruijn> if there's adata on it ofcourse
[09:21] <pmjdebruijn> the other option would be to run xubuntu in a VM in your other OS, as opposed to running it on bare metal
[11:06] <opios> hi
[11:07] <opios> i want to hide the menubar of my terminal, i can make it disapear but when i open new terminal its still there
[11:42] <bodiccea> which terminal? In Gnome Terminal, it is in Preferences/General
[11:49] <opios> bodiccea: yes but i doesnt keep the setting
[11:49] <opios> if i open new gnome terminal i still have menubar
[12:00] <diogenes_> opios, first you need to close all the instances of the terminal and re-open a new one.
[12:00] <opios> i have one open to change the config , then close it and reopen and i still have the menu bar
[12:12] <bodiccea> opios, diogenes_, strange. I did not have to close all terminals: As soon as I did uncheck the options in prefs, new terminals did not have menubar.
[12:12] <opios> bodiccea: it seems to be working now
[12:13] <bodiccea> I mean "real new terminal", not new window from a terminal.
[12:13] <opios> i might be doing something wrong
[12:13] <bodiccea> ok.
[12:13] <opios> how can i use xterm font in gnome terminal?
[12:16] <bodiccea> I don't know this font. If it is in list, yes.
[12:17] <bodiccea> Just for info, I use "DejaVu Sans Mono Book", which is nice (for me).
[17:04] <bloompa> hello
[21:42] <charles> hi
[21:43] <charles> who is there
[22:45] <juno> I lost my network indicator in the main panel (panel 0) .. How do I get it back? I don't see it in 'Add New Items ...'
[23:02] <krytarik> juno: That would be "nm-applet"
[23:24] <juno> krytarik, interesting .. ps shows that running but I don't see it
[23:27] <krytarik> juno: Did you relogin since?  Otherwise, try killing and restarting it.
[23:31] <juno> krytarik, so I just added a new notification area to the panel and the applet is now visible on the new panel .. strange
[23:32] <juno> well it works now .. thank you for the help
[23:33] <krytarik> Okey dokey.


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[17:37]  * genii makes sure dax gets a plate of tasty cookies
[17:39] <teward> but... I want a cookie too :(
[19:00] <el> it is apparently "chocolate chip cookie day" because cookie manufacturers wanted to capitalize on people spending extra money on food days.
[19:00] <el> you can probably find free cookies somewhere.
[19:15] <Aaron> I have a question. I have an ubuntu email. But I can only receieve not send. theres been a loser sending me messages from my account
[19:16] <teward> Aaron: you have to configure your mail client to adjust your From header to be from @ubuntu.com
[19:16] <teward> there's no SMTP email server for @ubuntu.com *sending* directly.
[19:16] <Aaron> teward: where do I put that?
[19:16] <Aaron> I'm using evolution
[19:16] <teward> i don't use evolution, I'd have to dig.
[19:17] <Aaron> evolution gives me this error The reported error was MAIL from command failed; failled; Mailbox unavailable
[19:18] <Aaron> I did create an alias like the wiki said.
[19:18] <teward> it's also partly dependent on the mail configuration of the SMTP server being used, and I don't know how you configured it so...
[19:18] <teward> i'd just be guessing at what the problem is on your system
[19:19] <Aaron> on my smtp configuration i have server outbound.att.net security TLS on a dedicated port username<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:19] <Aaron> where do I put the information from the ubuntu.com?
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> Aaron: I simply added an alias to the account that I receive the ubuntu.com emails through. It was really easy.
[19:47] <teward> [2019-05-15 15:28:37] <Eickmeyer> Aaron: I simply added an alias to the account that I receive the ubuntu.com emails through. It was really easy.
[19:47] <teward> Aaron: ^
[19:47] <teward> Eickmeyer just volunteered to help you :p
[19:47] <Aaron> Eickmeyer: I did that.
[19:48] <Aaron> but still Does not work.
[19:48] <teward> keep in mind the remote SMTP server you're using can be configured to *not* allow you to send with other From addresses
[19:48] <teward> so unless From matches your login on the server or a valid mailbox, it'll error.
[19:49] <Aaron> I do get valid login.
[19:49] <Aaron> when I send with my normal account.
[19:49] <teward> i think you missed the point of my message
[19:50] <teward> Login<EMAIL_ADDRESS>PW: Valid   LOGINOK   From<EMAIL_ADDRESS>DISALLOWED
[19:50] <teward> ^ this can be a situation on some servers depending on their configs
[19:50] <teward> and if that's the case in YOUR email provider's case you're out of luck there's no way to fix it
[19:50] <Aaron> it does work with my ISP
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> In my case, the address it sends through is a (grandfathered) G-Suite account which I have registered my ubuntu.com address with as an alias as well. That was the only way I could get it to work.
[19:52] <Aaron> I get the error Mailbox unavailable dont know why
[19:55] <Eickmeyer> Aaron: Unfortunately, some ISPs have limitations. A gmail account can do it, I know that for a fact.
[19:55] <Aaron> let me try with my gmail account.
[19:55] <Aaron> and see if that works.
[19:55] <teward> but your ISP *might not* let you do that, anticipating that the From address be a valid Mailbox on their env.
[19:55] <Aaron> in launchpad Do i need to put my gmail account?
[19:55] <teward> Comcast has that type of restriction unless you have a Business Account with hosted mail
[19:55] <teward> Aaron: no.
[19:56] <Aaron> ok.
[19:56] <teward> it wouldn't hurt but it's not a requisite no
[20:02] <Aaron> I create it the gmail account. and Now I create it the alias.
[20:02] <Aaron> I click on the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:02] <Aaron> and it sents but the email that shows is my gmail email address not my ubuntu
[20:06] <hggdh> Aaron: you have to set gmail to accept the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as a valid user
[20:06] <Aaron> how?
[20:08] <hggdh> Aaron: go to Settings, select the "Accounts and Import" tab, click on "Learn more" in the "Send mail as" box. Then do what they tell you to do
[20:09] <hggdh> Aaron: I am supposing you set your Ubuntu email account to forward to gmail
[20:09] <teward> hggdh: he's got his forwarding to an att.net address
[20:10] <teward> both are in evolution i think though, but att.net is the one giving him problems
[20:10] <teward> (I'm SO glad I run my own mail now lol)
[20:11] <hggdh> the reason I "supposed" the Ubuntu email forwarded to gmail is that it will be painful to receive email in one account and answer from another. But that's their call
[20:11] <teward> yep
[20:12] <Aaron> and why ubuntu does not provide dns for email setup
[20:12] <hggdh> because Ubuntu provides a forwarder, not an email server
[20:13] <hggdh> common procedure. I, for exmaple, have a few forwarder services (from linux.com, Ubuntu, etc)
[20:29] <Aaron> nothing works
[20:29] <Aaron> ;*(
[20:33] <Aaron> when I send with gmail I just get my google email
[20:35] <hggdh> and you selected to send *from* your ubuntu.com email?
[20:40] <Aaron> Yeah
[20:40] <Aaron> I create it an alias with thunderbird
[20:42] <Aaron> if I click with gmail add another email address you own
[20:42] <Aaron> if I put<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:42] <Aaron> is asking me for the smtp server username and password
[20:43] <teward> no that's not using it as an alias, that's adding it as a second account, it gives you an option to use it as an alias or as an external SMTP account
[20:53] <Aaron> How come
[20:53] <Aaron> I'm getting this email from my ubuntu account
[20:55] <Aaron> saying it was hack
[20:58] <Aaron> I think now it works
[20:59] <genii> Possibly the email was only a notification that a different device has been used to login
[21:00] <Aaron> Yeah now it works
[21:02] <hggdh> Aaron: if you d not use 2FA, consider using; also, it is highly probable that this "your account has been hacked" is nothing more than click-bait.
[21:03] <hggdh> Aaron: I receive at least 3 of them every day
[21:03] <Aaron> Now it works
[21:03] <Aaron> but I cannot see my mail with evolution
[21:03] <Aaron> I can only sent
[21:04] <hggdh> this is a different problem, and one I/we cannot help you with
[21:26] <Aaron> Nice
[21:26] <Aaron> thunderbird works fine.
[21:26] <Aaron> evolution is lacking off.