[00:00] <kc2bez> @The_LoudSpeaker that sounds like https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177
[00:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Unable to change the default browser on Lubuntu 18.10: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177
[00:00] <wxl> aka the "easy bug"
[00:02] <wxl> aw heck i didn't even see that kc2bez
[00:09] <guiverc_d> wxl, ack on 1799855, doing on another x86 1786602 -proposed, then can upgrade for to 18.10 for that sru, then 18.04.2 qa-test to return it  :)
 I had tried to set the default browser to google-chrome using the search option there but didn't work. And what about images opening in firefox?
[00:09] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T155
[00:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Provide complete mimeapps.list: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T155
[00:13] <kc2bez> Oh yeah, that too. They are probably both related, no?
[00:13] <wxl> i would suspect they are
[00:13] <wxl> i think there's a fix for something browser-specific that should have rolled down hill by now (or will soon)
 I've just been sponsoring @kc2bez's stuff and working on Qt 5.12.1
 Not too much
 Oh, and I triaged some tasks
[00:14] <kc2bez> Thanks for that. ^ I appreciate the support.
[00:14] <wxl> let's get mimeapps.list fixed, make sure we have that fix that was mentioned in that one bug, and then re-test and close the task
[00:14] <wxl> that said, @The_LoudSpeaker, you want to take on your first task?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Thanks for that. ^ I appreciate the support.], Anytime :)
[00:14] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you saw about @HMollerCl's need? pleeez get him this week
 @aptghetto see this as an example: https://tracker.debian.org/news/1014207/accepted-debhelper-12-source-into-unstable/
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you saw about @HMollerCl's need? pleeez get him this week], Ok
 This week is busy but I'll do my best
 @wxl [<wxl> that said, @The_LoudSpeaker, you want to take on your first task?], Yup!
[00:15] <wxl> oh actually he said he's on vacation
[00:15] <wxl> so you have some time
[00:16] <wxl> but put it on your todo list for next week
[00:16] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker did you read the documentation?
 Not yet
 Currently reading this:  ... https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-requirements/
[00:21] <wxl> ok, well, that's going to be kind of crucial
[00:21] <wxl> just go through that whole thing
[00:22] <wxl> there's a lot of info there, but you'll come back to it over and over again
[00:22] <wxl> even if you don't get it all the first time around, we'll go over it together and it will sink in
 Yup! I will try to follow it and complete the set up. I will let you know if there's any issue.
[00:24] <wxl> ok
[00:24] <wxl> there's several others here that have been through it, too, so we'll work together to help you out
[00:24] <wxl> hm
[00:25] <wxl> i might consider doing an online session
[00:25] <wxl> you get our discourse instance up, tsimonq2 ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! I will try to follow it and complete the set up. I will let you know if the …], But I won't be doing it right now. I currently have another task at hand will ping you back in a few hours here.
[00:25] <wxl> no problem
 @wxl [<wxl> you get our discourse instance up, tsimonq2 ?], I have to follow up with @teward001 on MTA stuff because you need it to configure the initial account
 I tried using the same settings we have in prod and it noped out on me
 It's been on my todo list to ping him (but now I just did :P)
[00:30] <wxl> btw i think mail notifications on phab are dead * ahem @teward001 *
 Weird, I got 3 of them today wxl
[00:36] <wxl> well i haven't checked my spam
[00:41] <kc2bez> Speaking of email though, did the one I sent make it through wxl ?
[00:42] <wxl> which one?
[00:42] <kc2bez> I sent one to the council.
[00:43] <kc2bez> Lubuntu council.
[00:43] <wxl> yeah
[00:43] <wxl> we've been busy and been chugging through a couple other tasks
[00:43] <wxl> but i should probably look at it given i bet you picked a date
[00:43] <kc2bez> Ok just wanted to make sure, no pressure
[00:44] <kc2bez> I didn't want that to end up in the spam bin.
[00:44] <kc2bez> I had some possible dates but I am flexible. If it needs to change it isn't a problem.
[00:44] <wxl> ok
[00:45] <wxl> probably get back to you this weekend or beginning of next
[00:45] <kc2bez> Ok thank you.
[01:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Bugs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) :
[01:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL05267887d096: Add ways to select next/previous package] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL05267887d096
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL53004ecb8792: Add pathbar location screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL53004ecb8792
[02:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6d002df7c27e: Add keyboard shorctuts for new archieve in ARK] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6d002df7c27e
 @tsimonq2 [I have to follow up with @teward001 on MTA stuff because you need it to configur …], and yet your laziness hasn't poked me :P
[03:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdfab84673410: ADd more ways to add files to ark including multiple files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdfab84673410
[11:33] <guiverc> wxl - if you wanna look @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1799855  -- if you're happy i (or you) can change verification-done-cosmic (or whatever).  please look over b/c of warnings; no-valid-mirror-found I didn't expect, nor packages no longer supported
 @wxl [<wxl> ok, well, that's going to be kind of crucial], is it okay if I install it in disco itself?
 Or should I use my regular work pc?
 Can anyone respond quickly on this? @teward001  @HMollerCl ??
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Can anyone respond quickly on this? @teward001  @HMollerCl ??], I don't understand your question
 Should I install arcanist and other tools in my elementary os or in other pc which currently has disco alpha in it?
 It depends on what you will do
 Safer is to install in disco
 I recommend a vm with 19.04
 This^
 @aptghetto [I recommend a vm with 19.04], I got an extra old pc from a friend and I installed disco in it. I guess bare metal is good for testing than a vm.
 @HMollerCl [Safer is to install in disco], Okay. I will do that.
[12:54] <apt-ghetto> Yes, bare metal may be better in some cases
[12:56] <apt-ghetto> but normally a vm is enough
[12:56] <apt-ghetto> I am developing in a vm on a Fedora host system
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Okay. I will do that.], And can you explain what do you mean by safer?
[12:57] <apt-ghetto> The advantage of vm: You can copy them or creating snapshots and then you can mess up your system and restoring it
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> The advantage of vm: You can copy them or creating snapshots and th …], Yup! Agreed we have that one advantage in vms but then I use time-machine XD
[12:59] <apt-ghetto> If you have a PC only for your developing purpose, yes I would use it also
[12:59] <apt-ghetto> But if you need a working PC, don't mess it up
[13:00] <apt-ghetto> For example `sudo apt build-dep PACKAGE` needs the development version to build the package
 @The_LoudSpeaker [And can you explain what do you mean by safer?], ^ that. But there are other things that don't need dev. Packages. Documentation for example.
 That's why is safer to do it in the same distro same version
 Okay installing arcanist rn
 Btw, I have 2gigs ram and antel i3 processor whhich clocks at 2GHz Is that much fine for packaging?
[13:24] <apt-ghetto> Yes, this is fine
 I did all the things under requirements from here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-requirements/
 what next?
[13:50] <apt-ghetto> You did also this steps https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ ?
 You mean creating .quiltrc?
[13:52] <apt-ghetto> Yes
 Done
[13:53] <apt-ghetto> Then you can clone a repo from phab
 Which repo? I guess I have to work on T155.
[13:55] <apt-ghetto> If you look at the task, you see a link to launchpad.
[13:56] <apt-ghetto> On launchpad you see the package lubuntu-default-settings
 Yes, I got to the launchpad bug page
[13:57] <apt-ghetto> Go back to phab and search for lubuntu-default-settings and you should find the repo
[13:58] <apt-ghetto> On the repo page you can then click on "Clone"
 I searched for "lubuntu-default-settings" here : https://phab.lubuntu.me/ but didn't get a repo
 wait got it now
 cloned. now?
[14:02] <apt-ghetto> You have cloned the repo?
 yes
[14:05] <apt-ghetto> Good question
[14:05] <apt-ghetto> Have a look at the sources, make some changes
 Which branch hoy clones?
 Cloned
 I cloned disco branch
 I see @The_LoudSpeaker is working on one but does anyone else want a quick packaging task?
 I want to work with @HMollerCl to do the new nm-tray release so anyone else?
 I can later this evening if no one else wants it.
 New nm tray is going to be out?
 I am available also
[17:50] <wxl[m]> guiverc your results are strange. Maybe your mirror wasn't updated with the new repository information at the time you tried? What versions of lubuntu-{desktop,core} do you have, if any?
[19:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALae02e511e5cc: Add toggling showing the menubar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALae02e511e5cc
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL73cdffed168e: Add memory clear button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL73cdffed168e
[21:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6de8e8acac1c: Mention not needing texlive full as that is uneeded bloat for stuff we don't…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6de8e8acac1c
 Yay: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/0.54.2
 It'll show up on images soon
[21:54] <kc2bez> Nice!
[21:54] <kc2bez> Did you need something from me this weekend?
 Sure, I'll explain it in a few hours
[21:57] <kc2bez> Ok sounds good.
[22:32] <kc2bez> wxl I tested bug 1799855 The only oddity I had was the onscreen keyboard seems to always appear on the SDDM screen. You can click past it but it seemed strange. I didn't get any errors.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Yup, off the cuff I guess you would be the author and you would give Jy …], Apt-guetto, i just adjusted the image, if you think it is ok, put it as your own, what matters is that the result is good. 😊


[00:01] <tyhicks> fwiw, it just clicked with me why it should go through -security
[00:01] <tyhicks> I want the libseccomp SRU for snappy enablement but it is also for bug #1682102
[00:02] <tyhicks> that bug affects all HWE users including those that disable -updates
[00:02] <tyhicks> going through -security is the only way to reach them and get the bug fixed
[00:03] <tyhicks> that infi nity sure is a smart guy
[00:06] <slangasek> tyhicks: he doesn't highlight mid-message, you can compliment infinity all you want with no fear of it going to his head
[00:07] <tyhicks> slangasek: good to know for future insults, as well ;)
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[02:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libseccomp [sync] (xenial-proposed) [2.3.1-2.1ubuntu2~16.04.1]
[02:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.361.1]
[02:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.379.1]
[02:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-meta [source] (artful-proposed) [1.404.1]
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[07:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted evqueue-core [i386] (bionic-proposed) [2.0-1]
[08:34] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept ldc if possible
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ldc [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.5.0-1]
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ldc [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.5.0-1]
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ldc [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.5.0-1]
[08:40] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Done.
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ldc [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1:1.5.0-1]
[08:52] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[12:05] <cpaelzer> hi, we are still unsure why the trusty portion of bug 1657256 is still in unapproved
[12:05] <cpaelzer> missed on SRU or a reason that has to be fixed
[12:05] <cpaelzer> rbasak: if you are around you'd be on SRU today and know most of the context already - if you could take a look later on?
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [amd64] (artful-proposed) [9-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[12:19] <xnox> Laney, i think i did something bad.... somehow systemd/235-2ubuntu2 is not in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running and there are no results either. It's as if it did not get triggered at all?
[12:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fwupdate-signed (zesty-proposed/main) [1.13 => 1.13ubuntu0.1] (core)
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [9-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [9-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:20] <apw> xnox, did you check again, there is a window where it is between the queue and the runners
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [9-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate [i386] (zesty-proposed) [9-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:21] <xnox> apw, deffo.
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupdate-signed [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.13ubuntu0.1]
[12:22] <xnox> apw, plus given the length of our queues things should have been either done (emptish arm/s390x/power) or still be in the queue (i386/amd64) or have results in. and it's been 21h now since it publised in proposed with all binaries.
[12:23] <Laney> dunno, busy debugging lcy01, maybe someone else can look in the journal
[12:24] <xnox> Laney, i was thinking, there is no self-service way to retrigger those, apart from coming up with the links myself, right?
[12:24]  * xnox can script that.
[12:25] <xnox> then again no rush, given the queue lengths and fixing lcy01 will fix the world.
[12:26] <Laney> retry-autopkgtest-regressions --state=RUNNING
[12:26] <Laney> oops
[12:26] <Laney> that might have been me accidently deleting them
[12:27] <xnox> ah, that retry is nice one!
[12:27] <xnox> meh, no harm done deleting them.
[12:27] <Laney> I think there was an ubuntu1 that wasn't done and I wanted to delete that
[12:27] <Laney> but typoed and put ubuntu2
[12:28]  * Laney was trimming superseded requests out of the queue
[12:29] <slashd> o/ sil2100 are we still good for u-a-t release today ?
[12:32] <Laney> xnox: you need RUNNING-ALWAYSFAIL too
[12:32] <Laney> or is it ALWAYSFAILED? can't quite remember
[12:33] <xnox> Laney, well, i'll wait for just systemd one to pass, before spamming with reverse deps.... as systemd itself has not been passing.
[12:33] <Laney> okey dokey
[12:35] <sil2100> slashd: yes
[12:35] <sil2100> ;)
[12:35] <slashd> sil2100, ok ;) thanks
[12:35] <sil2100> slashd: I'll eat lunch, take a look at the test results and consider releasing
[12:36] <slashd> sil2100, sound good to me, have a good lunch
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fwupdate-signed [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.13ubuntu0.1]
[12:38] <sil2100> Thanks o/
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected fwupdate-signed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.11.2]
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[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted langford [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.0.20130228-5ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.3.1-1ubuntu10.15]
[13:25] <cpaelzer> thanks
[13:26] <arges> : )
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libvirt [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.5.0-3ubuntu5.6]
[14:06] <sil2100> slashd: ok, I like that each series got at least 2 testers do the testing
[14:06] <sil2100> slashd: do you know if anyone else was doing some dogfooding of it on xenial?
[14:14] <slashd> sil2100, yeah I ask more than 1 ppl to test
[14:14] <slashd> sil2100, yeah they test various stuffs
[14:14] <slashd> for xenial
[14:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cups (artful-proposed/main) [2.2.4-7ubuntu2 => 2.2.4-7ubuntu3] (core)
[14:59] <cking> apw, it seems that zfs-linux is blocked on a lxd s390x test case failure "error: wrong number of subcommand arguments",  this is unrelated to zfs-linux .  The zfs-linux regression tests pass all OK, so I think it's fine for releasing
[14:59] <cking><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:00] <cking> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html#zfs-linux
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[15:38] <slangasek> doko: did you happen to see that the icu transition entangles haskell?
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[15:48] <tjaalton> infinity: seems that new mesa + a backported patch fixes a cert blocker bug, so the xenial backport is now more important to get in -proposed soon
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: zeroc-ice [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6.4-1+buster] (cli-mono)
[15:51] <doko> slangasek: yes :-/
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mesa (xenial-proposed/main) [17.0.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 17.2.4-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (core, xorg)
[15:52] <doko> and gnustep, but that one is now done
[15:52] <doko> and libva
[15:56] <tjaalton> doko: hi, what do you need (from me) to fix bug 1722162 in xenial?
[15:58] <dgadomski> hi rbasak, could you please approve cups for artful (bug 1729910)?
[16:00] <rbasak> dgadomski: sorry, I've not been able to work much time recently so I'm not doing SRU reviews right now
[16:00] <doko> tjaalton: did you test the fix?
[16:00] <tjaalton> doko: no :)
[16:00] <tjaalton> guess I'll do that first
[16:00] <doko> that would be good. and then maybe we should keep the binutils-2.26 package in trusty in sync
[16:01] <dgadomski> rbasak: sure, no worries
[16:01] <tjaalton> ok
[16:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (xenial-proposed/main) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.8 => 1.13.4-1ubuntu1.9] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
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[16:13] <apw> cking, did the lxd guys say that was their fault ?
[16:14] <cking> apw, nope. but if one looks at the failure log, it looks like a lxd specific test failure and nowt do to with zfs
[16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: casablanca (artful-proposed/universe) [2.9.1-1 => 2.9.1-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[16:17] <cking> stgraber, did you see that the lxd test are failing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:17] <cking> ..and this is stopping zfs-linux from landing in bionic
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[16:45] <stgraber> cking: replied to your e-mail, it's likely going to go away with the retry but since we have a multi-days queue, it's going to take a while
[16:46] <cking> stgraber, ah, that makes sense now, thanks
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[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-xdg-basedir [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.0-1]
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[18:27] <tjaalton> doko: binutils was already tested on a staging ppa, I just forgot about it..
[18:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: binutils (xenial-proposed/main) [2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.5 => 2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.6] (core)
[18:35] <slangasek> doko: and libical seems to be confused about timezones, only on 32-bit archs?
[18:39] <doko> slangasek: right, and I prepared libical3, which doesn't have this issue anymore. so the current issues are the ftbfs caused by qt (mit ya wanted to have a look), and libreoffice (tests are already ignored on some other archs)
[18:40] <doko> and haskell-blogliterately has the arm64 issue
[18:40] <slangasek> ok
[18:41] <slangasek> yes, I've removed the blogliterately binaries already
[18:47] <doko> slangasek: and I didn't check the libva status, but eod for me here
[18:47] <slangasek> ack, cheers
[19:23] <slangasek> infinity: is there a reason ubuntu-core daily builds are disabled in nusakan cron?
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (artful-proposed/main) [2.478 => 2.478.1] (desktop-core)
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[19:50] <sil2100> bdmurray, slangasek: hey! Could anyone of you review my livecd-rootfs SRUs in artful, zesty and xenial?
[20:00] <bdmurray> sil2100: I could in a bit
[20:02] <sil2100> bdmurray: thanks!
[20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nplan (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.29~16.04.1 => 0.31~16.04.1] (no packageset)
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[20:42] <sil2100> bdmurray: hmmm, I see something strange going on with one of the xenial SRUs in the queue
[20:43] <bdmurray> ?
[20:43] <sil2100> bdmurray: maybe you know what's causing this - when I'm trying to review nvidia-graphics-drivers-304, LP seems to have a really huge debdiff of that package from a previous version (one from release instead of -updates)
[20:44] <bdmurray> sil2100: which release?
[20:44] <sil2100> bdmurray: xenial
[20:44] <sil2100> bdmurray: I did a debdiff against the -updates version and the changes look sane
[20:45] <sil2100> bdmurray: I guess I can just accept it, maybe it's an LP bug?
[20:45] <sil2100> bdmurray: the .changes file looks correct, but it's like LP diffed against the wrong thing
[20:46] <slangasek> maybe the version currently in -updates was uploaded via security, so its publishing history doesn't match?
[20:46] <sil2100> hm, might be that
[20:48] <bdmurray> Yeah, sounds like an LP issue.
[20:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: resolvconf (trusty-proposed/main) [1.69ubuntu1.2 => 1.69ubuntu1.3] (core)
[20:58] <infinity> slangasek: core dailies are disabled cause I wanted to find out first if there's a series 18 core that they'll be building against.
[20:59] <slangasek> infinity: k.  I'm re-enabling, we're currently doing 16 daily builds using the devel toolchain and want to continue doing that until there's a reason to change
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[22:17] <stgraber> those 3 fix an SRU regression currently in -proposed, would be great to have them accepted soon ^
[22:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted binutils [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.29.1-7ubuntu1]
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[22:36] <infinity> slangasek: So, yeah.  When I did the cdimage bits, I ran across your core_series bit, and made >= bionic be 18.  But of course, that just affects publishing, not the build.  Looks like livecd-rootfs will need to mirror that change (which is icky).
[22:36] <infinity> slangasek: Maybe now that we (are about to) have two core series', we should look at cleaning that up so it's only defined once and magically passed around.
[22:39] <slangasek> infinity: ah.  ok, we should revert that until such time as there is an 18, I think?
[22:39] <slangasek> which has remained an open question
[22:39] <infinity> slangasek: Perhaps s/revert/comment/ or something, but sure.
[22:41] <slangasek> infinity: we want to continue building edge dailies of 16, with the most up-to-date toolchain available, which is bionic.  Does LP even recognize series 18 yet?
[22:41] <slangasek> (for snap builds)
[22:41] <slangasek> I assume not
[22:41] <nacc> slangasek: it is not presented as an option in the web UI
[22:41] <nacc> slangasek: but then againn, neither is Bionic yet
[22:42] <nacc> (under Series)
[22:42]  * slangasek nods
[22:42] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, I'm sure that's a thing that still needs sorting.
[22:42] <slangasek> yeah, it would definitely be premature for lp to expose series 18 before it's been defined by the snapd team
[22:42] <infinity> slangasek: Reverting my change will still leave you broken, as you'd (correctly, IMO) ranged series-16 as 16.04 <= >= 17.10
[22:43] <infinity> slangasek: But yes, we can just mangle that to "everything is 16" for now.
[22:43]  * slangasek nods
[22:44] <slangasek> infinity: the only reason I'm saying to mangle to "everything is 16" is that I've heard hesitation in person about what/when series 18 happens.  also, livecd-rootfs might poooossibly have series=16 hardcoded.
[22:45] <infinity> slangasek: livecd-rootfs definitely has 16 hardcoded, which I mentioned above. :)
[22:45] <slangasek> right
[22:46] <slangasek> we talked about moving this into launchpad-buildd instead of indirecting through livecd-rootfs... do we still think that's a good idea?
[22:46] <infinity> slangasek: OTOH, I could (and am about to) argue that for series where series != LTS, mapping series to core-series seems to have no sane meaning.
[22:46] <infinity> slangasek: Like, I would think the goal is to build 16 from 16.04 and 18 from 18.04, not to build 16 from 17.10 tools.
[22:46] <infinity> (As in, all the tools needed should be in xenial or we've oopsed)
[22:47] <infinity> I mean, we don't test that 'DIST=bionic VERSION_ACTUALLY=xenial build-a-thing' works for any other image types.  Why is core special?
[22:48] <slangasek> infinity: this is an optimization to reduce SRU drag, which even for livecd-rootfs alone still matters
[22:48] <slangasek> the only things that are actually in the release in question which factor into the image build are livecd-rootfs, ubuntu-image, and e2fsprogs
[22:49] <infinity> slangasek: Do you view it as temporary until $something has stabilised?  Upending the "we build a release on the release" thing we do for one project feels gross.
[22:50] <infinity> slangasek: And it's about to go strangely sideways when 16 and 18 do both exist, but you still want 16 test builds, since you're both arguing that "release we build on" and "target release" aren't coupled while you couple them. :)
[22:50] <infinity> (Well, "couple" in the rather progressive polyamorous sense here)
[22:51] <infinity> Anyhow, before conversation continues, fixing the current state to work as expected.
[22:52] <slangasek> infinity: yes, it's a temporary thing to save time while developing, not a design constraint
[22:53] <slangasek> if and when series 18 exists, I would switch to building on xenial
[22:53] <infinity> slangasek: Kay.  For now, >= bionic now also thinks it's 16.
[22:53] <infinity> slangasek: It's a 1-line revert to get it back to 18.
[22:54] <slangasek> also, if we did actually move the ubuntu-image logic out of livecd-rootfs into launchpad-buildd; and if we switched to using the ubuntu-image snap instead of deb (which we can do now, and should do); then there are zero SRUs involved in updating the tooling for ubuntu-core builds
[22:54]  * infinity nods.
[22:55] <infinity> And then the series<>core mapping could exist in just the one place in cdimage, I imagine.
[22:55] <infinity> And only there because we're silly and doing DIST=xenial build-core ... Which we don't have to do.  We could rethink that as a different set entirely (like rtm, etc)
[22:56] <infinity> Though, it has advantages being mapped to the current in-devel LTS, I suppose.
[22:56] <infinity> If we care about tracking testing with the iso tracker for future images or some such.
[22:59] <slangasek> well, we have a bug open about the fact that the banners we produce for the core image webpages are also wrong
[23:34] <cjwatson> infinity,slangasek: Gustavo indicated to the store team at the rally that non-16 series are currently considered an escape hatch rather than something that's definitely going to happen in e.g. LTS-like cycles (letting snaps use stuff from bionic will AIUI be done using the upcoming base snaps instead)
[23:34] <cjwatson> so we have no current plans to introduce series 18
[23:40] <tsimonq2> Nice, so autopkgtesters being slow are blocking the Qt transition...
[23:41] <slangasek> cjwatson: right, that was my understanding as well
[23:42] <slangasek> tsimonq2: yes, that happens when we sync thousands of packages at cycle opening that all need testing ;)  If there are tests you see in the queue that are pointless because they'll be superseded by later more complete tests, though, let us know and we can prune the queue
[23:44] <tsimonq2> slangasek: If only the autopkgtesters had some sort of intelligent queue, so that package foo that isn't seeded, is in Universe, and is known to fail runs after package bar that is seeded in a couple flavors, is in Main, and should pass
[23:52] <infinity> cjwatson: Ahh, I hadn't been involved in these new and improved conversations on the matter.


[00:33] <skellat> knome: Attached ubuntu-sponsors to the bug, now we wait.  Was out at the farm checking on the chickens.
[00:34] <knome> skellat, thanks
[00:34] <skellat> I've attached ubuntu-release too
[00:34] <skellat> Somebody should mention the bug over in that channel so that somebody is aware
[00:35] <knome> they should be aware of it without mentioning
[00:35] <knome> (since this isn't mainly a -release thing, but sponsoring stuff, i won't post just yet)
[00:35] <knome> i'm also going to bed soon anyway, so wouldn't be able to follow up
[00:36] <skellat> Alrighty
[00:36] <skellat> Sleep fast.
[00:36] <knome> but i'll look into it tomorrow
[00:36] <pleia2> chickens!
[00:38] <skellat> knome: I attached myself as a subscriber to the bug too
[00:43] <knome> ta
[00:44] <knome> i'm off to bed now
[00:44] <knome> see you all later
[00:44] <Unit193> Good night.
[09:07] <kurapika> hello somebody can direct me to find log file for the xfce4-panel
[09:34] <ochosi> kurapika: support channel is #xubuntu, but to quickly answer your question: it doesn't have it's own logfile. depending on the kind of error you'll find it e.g. in ~/.xsession-errors or in /var/log/*
[09:35] <kurapika> oki thanks ;)
[09:36] <ochosi> np
[09:38] <kurapika> found it thanks a lot :D
[15:40] <ochosi> hmpf, synaptic is gtk3 in Raring (an experimental build) and there are some tiny visual glitches with it. have to say i'm quite happy we don't ship it by default
[15:47] <GridCube> o:
[15:57] <ochosi> skellat: so yeah, the bug has a fix in github...
[15:57] <ochosi> usually we would proceed like this:
[15:57] <ochosi> 1) i fix a bug, commit it to github (https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird)
[15:57] <ochosi> 2) when enough bugs have been fixed or we're close to a release, i "release a new version" (i.e. add a git-tag)
[15:57] <ochosi> 3) mr_pouit would update the package and upload it
[16:05] <skellat> Alrighty
[16:05] <skellat> Lets see what we can do here
[16:06] <knome> ochosi, skellat: thanks
[16:06] <skellat> First, in a clean directory I'm running: bzr git-import git://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird.git
[16:07] <skellat> Or not
[16:07] <knome> :)
[16:07] <skellat> Github closed the connection
[16:15] <skellat> Hunh.  bzr isn't getting the usual responses from Github doing a git import
[16:16] <skellat> And I gotta get out the door for a medical appointment across town
[16:16] <knome> what if you git clone and bzr-import from local repo?
[16:16] <skellat> Possible to do
[16:16] <skellat> I'll have to check that when I get back in a couple hours
[16:16] <knome> thanks, and happy traveling
[16:27] <ochosi> gotta go too, will check in again tomorrow at some point
[16:27] <ochosi> skellat: ^
[17:18] <baizon> im back
[17:36] <baizon> pleia2: ping
[17:36] <pleia2> baizon: pong
[17:38] <baizon> pleia2: something you wish to add to the article?
[17:38] <pleia2> baizon: we had ochosi take a look last night, I think it's looking pretty good
[17:39] <baizon> yes i saw it
[17:39] <baizon> he made a few changes
[17:40]  * pleia2 nods
[17:40] <baizon> it's done, or is there something else that need to be added?
[17:40] <pleia2> we may do some style changes and or write introduction/conclusion as needed ,but otherwise I think it's done
[17:43] <baizon> ok
[19:47] <amerigena> today, tomorow, next Thursday?
[20:00] <Unit193> Noo, next Friday!
[20:00] <Unit193> Care to put some context with that?
[20:01] <amerigena> Not particularly. Just thinking out loud.
[20:03] <knome> amerigena, care to do the thinking in -offtopic unless it's related to xubuntu development and you are willing to share?
[20:03] <amerigena> Yes sir.
[20:03] <amerigena> Bye.
[20:03] <knome> thanks :)
[20:03] <knome> oh well.


[01:20] <rAfitiiixxx> hello, does someone knows how to make lubuntu 11.10 recognize my USB Headset automatically? if not i would like to know how to fix it so i can use it. If you need some logs or some .conf files, ask me :)
[02:11] <gnuvince> I installed Lubuntu 64 bit on my laptop, and when I came to install the Skype Ubuntu package, it whined about a bunch of 32 bits libraries missing
[02:12] <gnuvince> Is there an easier way to install Skype?  Maybe a repository I could add to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:12] <brother-> have you tried adding the ia32-libs package?
[02:13] <gnuvince> I don't know that package, what is it?
[02:13] <brother-> I have no idea about how skype works and so on and I hope it does depend on ia32-libs if it is needed
[02:13] <gnuvince> I'll try
[02:13] <gnuvince> hang on
[02:13] <brother-> it has some libraries and so on. read the package description
[02:16] <phiscribe> ia32 is involved in betting 32 bit apps to run in 64 bit environment
[02:16] <phiscribe> in getting that is
[02:17]  * phiscribe just read the time stamp.....
[02:33] <gnuvince> Cool, installing ia32-libs did the trick.
[02:33] <gnuvince> Thanks for the tip, brother-.
[02:50] <LubuntuPowered> how do i turn off the notification icon on the taskbar for 11.10?
[02:51] <LubuntuPowered> permanently
[03:00] <KM0201> LubuntuPowered: i was wondering that as well... i *think* (i haven't tried it yet). go to menu/preferences/desktop session settings, and uncheck "notification daemon"
[03:03] <LubuntuPowered> brilliant
[03:04] <LubuntuPowered> take the rest of the day off
[03:06] <KM0201> :) will do
[03:06] <KM0201> (considering i'm going to bed ina bout 15min)
[03:06] <KM0201> lol
[03:09] <rAfitiiixxx> Can anyone help me with an usb headset not working on lubuntu 11.10?
[03:14] <KM0201> hmm..
[03:14] <KM0201> hmm
[03:14] <KM0201> a usb headset
[03:14] <KM0201> what model
[03:17] <rAfitiiixxx> KM0201: let me look for it, just a sec...
[03:17] <KM0201> rAfitiiixxx: don't worry about it, we can try something
[03:18] <rAfitiiixxx> KM0201: can't find the the box where it came :(
[03:18] <KM0201> rAfitiiixxx: thats fine
[03:18] <KM0201> plug it in
[03:18] <rAfitiiixxx> it's pluged :)
[03:18] <KM0201> open a terminal and type   lsusb  (LSUSB)   hit enter, and look at the output and see if you can identify your headset
[03:19] <rAfitiiixxx> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0d8c:000d C-Media Electronics, Inc. Composite Device
[03:19] <rAfitiiixxx> :D
[03:19] <KM0201> well thats perfectly cryptic
[03:19] <KM0201> lol
[03:19] <KM0201> well.. we can try installing pulse audio, see if it picks it up.. if you wanna try that
[03:19] <KM0201> or have you tried that?
[03:19] <rAfitiiixxx> okey! i will do whatever you suggest,
[03:20] <rAfitiiixxx> but i think i allready did that, let me check
[03:20] <KM0201> in a terminalt ype this     sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol
[03:20] <rAfitiiixxx> pavucontrol wasn't installed, so i did it
[03:20] <KM0201> ok
[03:20] <KM0201> let it install
[03:21] <KM0201> honestly, having pulse audio installed w/o pavucontrol, is like a car w/o gas
[03:21] <KM0201> once pavucontrol is installed, open it under sound and video
[03:21] <KM0201> click the "output" tab.
[03:21] <KM0201> and see if you can choose your headsets
[03:22] <rAfitiiixxx> KM0201: umm, under sound and video? :( where ?
[03:22] <rAfitiiixxx> oh never mind!
[03:22] <rAfitiiixxx> lol
[03:22] <KM0201> yes, under sound and video... "Pulse Audio Volume COntrol"
[03:24] <rAfitiiixxx> okey, it seems to be set and ready to use my headsets... i'm gonna try it on a youtube video since it's a fresh install and i don't have any music here :P
[03:24] <KM0201> ok
[03:25] <KM0201> as long as you know youtube is working w/o the headsets (i'm assuming you know it is)
[03:25] <rAfitiiixxx> it seems it isn't working :S
[03:25] <rAfitiiixxx> mmm i didn't check on that, let me turn on speakers
[03:25] <rAfitiiixxx> :S
[03:26] <KM0201> lol
[03:27] <rAfitiiixxx> damn, i think the speakers aren't working too, i'm downloading an mp3 from the web... gonna check with that
[03:28] <KM0201> kinda hard to believe you didn't troubleshoot your sound first, rather than immediately moving to your headphones
[03:29] <rAfitiiixxx> the thing is that i hate my speakers since those two suck
[03:29] <rAfitiiixxx> i allways use my headset, in every OS, :P
[03:29] <rAfitiiixxx> okey, some .mp3 file is playing but i have no sound in both, speakers and headset :S
[03:30] <KM0201> well, i understand that, but immediately moving to the USB headset, gives you something far more difficult to troubleshoot, troubleshoot things in order.
[03:30] <KM0201> ok, lets drop the headset, unplug it, and set it aside
[03:30] <rAfitiiixxx> done
[03:30] <KM0201> now, go back to pulseaudio volume control
[03:30] <rAfitiiixxx> i'm on it
[03:30] <KM0201> whats your outputdevices say
[03:31] <rAfitiiixxx> :S it's on spanish, but i think it's the same as Analog device
[03:32] <KM0201> ..
[03:32] <rAfitiiixxx> i'm also checking if the speakers are well conected, i'm gonna make sure of it
[03:32] <KM0201> ok, well i honestly need to go to bed
[03:32] <rAfitiiixxx> the thing is that i can't change it, the Analog output i mean
[03:32] <rAfitiiixxx> :(
[03:32] <KM0201> i have to be up early...
[03:32] <KM0201> you can't change what?
[03:32] <KM0201> the output device
[03:32] <KM0201> ?
[03:33] <rAfitiiixxx> i can't
[03:33] <rAfitiiixxx> :S it won't let me, but maybe it's because i unplugged the headset
[03:33] <KM0201> probably
[03:33] <rAfitiiixxx> shall i plug it in again?
[03:33] <KM0201> what are your options on the configuration tab
[03:33] <KM0201> no
[03:33] <rAfitiiixxx> the options are
[03:33] <rAfitiiixxx> internal audio:
[03:33] <KM0201> logic says, if you're not getting sound at your speakers, your sound isn't working.. so sound isn't gonna mysteriously work coming out of the uSB
[03:34] <rAfitiiixxx> u're right
[03:34] <rAfitiiixxx> :S
[03:34] <KM0201> so you have no options under sound?
[03:34] <KM0201> sorry, under configuration
[03:34] <rAfitiiixxx> i have a bunch of them
[03:34] <rAfitiiixxx> more than i can write!
[03:35] <KM0201> whats it set to right now?
[03:35] <rAfitiiixxx> Stereo digital (IEC958) Output + Analog Stereo Input
[03:36] <KM0201> k, just for grins, try changing that to analog stereo duplex
[03:37] <rAfitiiixxx> YEIII!!
[03:37] <rAfitiiixxx> it's working! on the speakers at least
[03:37] <KM0201> ok
[03:37] <KM0201> now, plug in your USB
[03:37] <KM0201> and adjust the output back to your usb headset
[03:37] <KM0201> and see if you have sound
[03:39] <rAfitiiixxx> no it's not :(
[03:39] <rAfitiiixxx> the output was the one that was before, right? IEC958
[03:39] <KM0201> no.
[03:39] <KM0201> leave it on analog
[03:39] <KM0201> sorry
[03:39] <KM0201> leave it stereo duplex, and change the output tab, to whatever you changed it for usb
[03:41] <KM0201> if you leave configuration, on analog stereo duplex, then no the output devices tab, change that to your USB speakers
[03:41] <KM0201> one would think, you should have sound from your headset
[03:41] <rAfitiiixxx> ok
[03:43] <rAfitiiixxx> honestly, i don't get why is that i can't set this headset :(
[03:43] <rAfitiiixxx> it's not working
[03:43] <KM0201> well, gonna have to work on this another time.. i would go through pavucontrol very carefully, and see if you can figure out... the fact it's seeing the headset... you should be able to get it to work
[03:44] <KM0201> it's just a matter of finding the right setting
[03:44] <rAfitiiixxx> okey, i'm gonna keep trying diferent combos
[03:44] <rAfitiiixxx> hope i get lucky
[03:44] <KM0201> hopefully..
[03:44] <rAfitiiixxx> thanks for all the help KM0201 :)
[03:44] <KM0201> just take this as an abject lesson on how to troubleshoot... don't troubleshoot headsets that aren't working, when you've not even confirmed your sound is working.. :)
[03:45] <KM0201> no problem, best of luck
[03:45] <KM0201> i won't be on tomorrow, but.. hopefully that gets you on the road to success.
[04:00] <woodzy> how do i remove KDE/OpenBox  & Gnome/OpenBox from the list of desktops that is displayed to the user at the login screen?
[04:08] <bioterror> !purelxde | woodzy
[04:09] <bioterror> I've usually just used command: sudo apt-get purge gnome\*
[04:09] <bioterror> or kde\*
[04:09] <bioterror> but that leaves some applications ;)
[04:36] <woodzy> thanks.
[08:44] <l33__> outch
[08:44] <l33__> hi
[08:44] <l33__> hi
[09:13] <plasticdoc> I am having trouble at making a couple of apps autostart at user login. This one works as expected:         ln -sf /usr/share/applications/zim.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
[09:13] <plasticdoc> And this one does not work no matter what iI do:          ln -sf /usr/share/applications/claws-mail.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
[09:13] <plasticdoc>     Any ideas?
[09:20] <bioterror> yes
[09:20] <bioterror> check from that preferences thingie
[09:20] <bioterror> there's those "services"
[09:22] <plasticdoc> Well... I started by doing that. The corresponding boxes were present and checked and all... but no luck with that.
[09:24] <plasticdoc> Strange enough Zim (zim.desktop) autostarts, but it is not present in the automatically Started Applications screen.
[09:25] <plasticdoc> But Claws Mail is present and checked, but does not autostart.
[09:27] <bioterror> edit
[09:27] <bioterror> .config/openbox/autostart.sh
[09:27] <bioterror> ~/
[09:27] <bioterror> and add to the bottom of that file
[09:27] <bioterror> program &
[09:27] <bioterror> program &
[09:27] <bioterror> and remove those .desktop symlinks
[09:27] <bioterror> and then logout and log backin
[09:31] <plasticdoc> In ~/.config/openbox/ I only have lubuntu-rc.xml and lxde-rc.xml, should I create an autostart.sh file?
[09:31] <bioterror> hmmm
[09:31] <bioterror> you could make one then
[09:35] <plasticdoc> I have tried to execute 'openbox-xdg-autostart --list', but it seems to be absent from the system. Although there are openbox, openbox-lxde, openbox-lubuntu, this is a little confusing.
[09:36] <plasticdoc> Is there documentation available for the ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh file specs?
[09:36] <bioterror> openbox by default should read autostart.sh
[09:40] <plasticdoc> Well, I am now browsing /etc/xdg/openbox and starting to get a feeling for it. But, I wonder, where is the line that loads the contents of the files stored in ~/.config/openbox/ ?
[09:44] <bioterror> I dont have lubuntu machine near me atm.
[09:44] <bioterror> so I cannot check that ;)
[09:44] <bioterror> was it /etc/default/ something
[10:19] <Walraven> Could I get a short description abt playing bluray's in bluray-reader under lubuntu
[10:41] <lubuntu20dash> Hi I upgraded lubuntu to the lastest version and I cant install gnu icecat
[10:46] <lubuntu20dash> Hi I upgraded lubuntu to the latest version, Lubuntu 11.10 and I cant install gnu icecat the error says "Depends: libnotify1  but it is not installable"
[10:48] <mark76> Why isn't it installable?
[10:51] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, because Lubuntu 11.10 does not have it in its repositories
[10:52] <mark76> Odd
[10:52] <mark76> When was it removed from the Ubuntu repos?
[10:53] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, Lubuntu 11.10 it seems, I had icecat in ubuntu 11.04 and it worked fine
[10:55] <mark76> Yep, it's been deleted.
[10:56] <mark76> Replaced by libnotify4
[10:56] <lubuntu20dash>  mark76, any way I can add it back? I really want to use icecat
[10:57] <mark76> You could try adding the repositories for natty
[10:57] <mark76> But I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not
[10:58] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, pastebin the code, I will add them, install libnotify1, then deactivate them
[11:01] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, what are the repositories for natty? pastebin them please
[11:03] <mark76> I've no idea
[11:03] <mark76> And you don't really need to pastebin a single line
[11:04] <lubuntu20dash>  mark76, I really need  libnotify1
[11:04] <l33__> deleted U3 with the U3 tools...still Lubuntu Desktop cant refresh or see the actual excisting directory of my usb memory stick...
[11:05] <lubuntu20dash> AM) l33__, does the directory show in windows?
[11:06] <mark76> Looks like it's not possible lubuntu20dash
[11:06] <l33__> dont know...have so start my windows machine
[11:06] <mark76> You're going to have to use Firefox
[11:06] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, is it, I just need the code to add the repository
[11:06] <l33__> i will test that and tell you later
[11:07] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, or install it manually, that I have no clue how
[11:07] <mark76> Go into your sources list and find/replace oneiric with natty
[11:08] <mark76> Keep natty until GNU updates icecat to use libnotify4
[11:08] <l33__> as leszek told me yesterday, i deleted the U§ from the stick with the command he gave me - this worked without errors...after that i unmounted the stick, formated the MBR with GUID table and then made a volume and formatted it with ext2 not crypted with the lubuntu disc utility
[11:08] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, how I edit my sources?
[11:09] <l33__> and copying something from or to the stick takes really long time...but copying with the mc is quite fast
[11:10] <lubuntu20dash> l33__, in my experience , avoid the U? usb flash drives, if you have one, just sell it away, but now that you have formated it, you are kind of doomed, how big is the stick?
[11:12] <l33__> 4 gig
[11:13] <l33__> i know now hehehe U3 is crap...but it worked for years
[11:13] <lubuntu20dash> l33__, my advice is, backup, and format it one of those usb formating tools in FULL, is gonna take a while, so go watch a movie.
[11:13] <l33__> many lubuntu/ubuntu unetbootin installs successes
[11:13] <l33__> k
[11:13] <l33__> and then seeling it?
[11:13] <l33__> i formatted it many times
[11:13] <l33__> wot do you mean with formatting full?
[11:14] <l33__> format the guid?
[11:14] <l33__> dont using volumes..just directly formatting it without partitioning ?
[11:14] <lubuntu20dash> l33__, deleting the U? thing is generally a bad idea, and I mean one of those tolls made for formating usb flash drives,., not ubuntu formatting tools
[11:15] <l33__> okay
[11:15] <mark76> Can you see a file called software-sources.list in /etc, lubuntu20dash?
[11:15] <l33__> me?
[11:16] <mark76> Are you called lubuntu20dash?
[11:16] <l33__> sorry, thought lubuntu20dash was a ini file hehehe
[11:16] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, I genealy get an error when I try to see files as root, so the answer is no
[11:16] <l33__> have 2 go
[11:16] <l33__> thank you all
[11:16] <l33__> c u later ;)
[11:17] <mark76> Why do you get an error?
[11:17] <mark76> Bye I33__
[11:17] <l33__> ;)
[11:18] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, nevermind, the error only happens if you try to see the root folder, and about the error, asks the dudes who coded PCManFM 0.9.9
[11:19] <mark76> Try opening it as the normal user
[11:20] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, cant see it sorry
[11:20] <mark76> Me neither. It must be deeper down
[11:20] <mark76> Hang on
[11:22] <mark76> Open a terminal and paste this in
[11:22] <mark76> sudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <mark76> Replace leafpad with text editor of choice
[11:24] <lubuntu20dash> so I just  backup and replace oneiric with natty?
[11:24] <mark76> Yeah
[11:24] <mark76> Might as well
[11:24] <mark76> You ain't getting libnotify1 back any other way
[11:26] <mark76> When you're in use the Replace option in the Search menu to replace oneiric with natty
[11:27] <mark76> Then send an email to the GNU icecat team requesting that they update the browser to use libnotify4
[11:27] <lubuntu20dash> cursed leadpad
[11:27] <mark76> leafpad.
[11:30] <lubuntu20dash> mark76, I was insulting it, hence leadpad
[11:30] <mark76> Ah :D
[12:48] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ubuntu 10.04 change gdm to lxdm - don't work automount removable media. pcmanfm can't use, it not work like file browser
[16:14] <JohnDoe_71Rus> is anybody home?
[17:15] <ikr111> anyone knows how to change global fonts size? obconfig will change only the windows fonts size...
[17:42] <eddieTH> hi!
[17:42] <ErwinJunge> hi
[17:43] <eddieTH> i want to make to default the us keyboard
[17:44] <eddieTH> p.s. sorry for my bad english
[17:47] <ErwinJunge> alt-f2 --> in the resulting window "lxkeymap" without the " --> select keymap, click apply
[17:49] <eddieTH> done, but when I restar the pc the layout changes
[19:24] <LucMove> So, can someone please help me make lubuntu run apps and/or scripts at startup?
[19:25] <bioterror> sure
[19:25] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[19:26] <bioterror> urxvtd is just an example
[19:26] <LucMove> yes, I've done that
[19:26] <LucMove> no worky
[19:27] <bioterror> someone broke lxde autostart!
[19:27] <LucMove> ah, wait
[19:27] <LucMove> it says ~/.config/autostart/
[19:28] <bioterror> that's right
[19:28] <LucMove> everything else I found on google says ~/.config/openbox/autostart/
[19:28] <bioterror> the difference between that and what you've found from google is that I've not written those in google ;)
[19:29] <LucMove> are you a developer, maintainer or directly guilty of anything?
[19:29] <bioterror> I'm just trying to make your life easier
[19:29] <LucMove> well, lemme try that other way...
[19:40] <bioterror> did it work
[19:40] <LucMove> FINALLY. It's working now.
[19:40] <bioterror> you're welcome ;)
[19:40] <LucMove> I was using ~ in the Exec line. It really wanted an explicit path.
[19:41] <LucMove> Not very smart, but meh.
[19:41] <LucMove> thank you
[20:24] <goliat> Does anyone know how i can get my power button to work just like when i choose logout, so i can choose shutdown, reboot, etc.?
[20:29] <goliat> I forgot to say it is a laptop and i can use the special buttons for brightnesses, volume and battery status.
[20:31] <LucMove> try running xev on a console and pressing keys, they will be identified...
[20:31] <LucMove> then if xev identifies your power button, the rest is easy
[20:32] <LucMove> just press the power button once and quickly, so it won't actually shut down
[20:33] <LucMove> But that if that doesn't work, why not use another key, like Win-F12, or Alt-Shift-F12. It's what I do.
[20:34] <goliat> LucMove: What is xev? Pressing the power button wont make it shutdown, think only force shutdown works atm.
[20:34] <LucMove> xev is an application. Run it on the console, so you see the output.
[20:37] <LucMove> A white square window will pop up. Drag it to the side so you can see the output on the terminal window beneath it. But make sure that white square has focus when you press keys. That white square captures the keys, the output is in the terminal window. Get it?
[20:37] <goliat> yeah im testing right now
[20:37] <LucMove> great
[20:38] <LucMove> every time you press a key, you should see 5 lines or so...
[20:38] <goliat> yepp ^
[20:38] <LucMove> the third one contains state 0x0, keycode [something]
[20:38] <goliat> pressing a letter will give a return on what letter it should be
[20:39] <LucMove> keycode is what you need
[20:39] <LucMove> for me, keys a,s,d return keycodes 38,39,40 respectively
[20:40] <goliat> the same for me but the power button is a bit tricky for me
[20:40] <LucMove> the power button gives me no keycode
[20:41] <LucMove> So I can't use the power button the way you suggest. Do you get a keycode?
[20:42] <goliat> no me neither
[20:42] <goliat> not*
[20:42] <LucMove> well, there is another thing you can try
[20:43] <LucMove> Right-click the power meter in the system tray and choose Preferences
[20:44] <LucMove> in General options, there is this option, "When power button is pressed" [Ask] [Suspend] [Hibernate] [Shutdown]
[20:44] <LucMove> But that doesn't work for me either.
[20:44] <goliat> Yeah i have all of thoose on ask
[20:44] <goliat> When i had fedora with xfce it worked when i changed them
[20:45] <goliat> but sadly not here
[20:45] <LucMove> I guess both our machines do not communicate the power button in a way that the OS can recognize.
[20:46] <LucMove> So, I recommend using some other key shortcut or combination instead of the power button.
[20:46] <goliat> yeah, i blame dell ;)
[20:46] <goliat> how can i set that up then?
[20:46] <LucMove> open this file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[20:48] <LucMove> look for one of the many <keybind sections you have. Each one begins at <keybind and ends at </keybind>. Standard XML, you know.
[20:49] <goliat> ok
[20:49] <LucMove> Clone any one of them, i.e. copy-paste. So you can edit the second one.
[20:49] <LucMove> Here is mine:
[20:49] <LucMove>     <keybind key="S-W-F12"><!-- Logout -->
[20:49] <LucMove>       <action name="Execute">
[20:49] <LucMove>         <startupnotify>
[20:49] <LucMove>           <enabled>true</enabled>
[20:49] <LucMove>           <name>Logout</name>
[20:49] <LucMove>         </startupnotify>
[20:49] <LucMove>         <command>lxde-logout</command>
[20:49] <LucMove>       </action>
[20:49] <LucMove>     </keybind>
[20:49] <bioterror> next time pastebin
[20:49] <Josh__> hello
[20:49] <bioterror> or else!
[20:49] <Josh__> I need some help
[20:49] <LucMove> ah, sorry. Just this once... ;-)
[20:50] <bioterror> Josh__, go ahead
[20:50] <Josh__> ok, I try to connect a virtual harddisc
[20:51] <LucMove> goliat: I assume the key sequence is obvious: Shift-Windows key-F12 in my case. But you can use any other combination.
[20:51] <Josh__> i saw in the description for ubuntu -> connect to server
[20:51] <goliat> LucMove: I can just copy your code and change the keybind right?
[20:51] <Josh__> but i cannot find it on lubuntu, does anone  know where it might be?
[20:52] <LucMove> goliat: yes
[20:53] <LucMove> what is a virtual harddisc? cloud?
[20:56] <goliat> LucMove: the "S" and the "W" is Shift and WindowsKey right?
[20:56] <Josh__> does anyone speak german, because my english is not so good, so i cannot explan my problem
[20:56] <LucMove> goliat: yes
[20:57] <Josh__> virtual disc ist my disc, when I am at the campus
[20:57] <goliat> LucMove: Can i make a comment in the file with //?
[20:57] <LucMove> goliat: no. Comments in XML are made with <!-- comment -->
[20:58] <LucMove> looked at what I pasted here, it has a comment
[20:58] <goliat> Ahh yes i see it thanks :)
[20:59] <LucMove> Josh__: Your English is fine. But I would need a better description of this virtual disc thing.
[21:00] <LucMove> There are many possible setups for something like this.
[21:00] <goliat> LucMove: Is C = Ctrl and A = alt or is there any website where i can see desctriptions
[21:00] <LucMove> goliat: I'm pretty sure there are plenty of Openbox wikis and docs on the Web, but yes, you got that right.
[21:01] <LucMove> S = Shift
[21:01] <LucMove> Maybe M = Meta, but then I'm just over guessing. I've never seen this "meta" key on any machine in my life.
[21:02] <LucMove> and I don't know if meta is supported by openbox
[21:03] <goliat> Isnt Meta just the key Mac have instead of Windows key?
[21:03] <LucMove> if you say so... I have no idea. :;-\
[21:04] <goliat> Me neither but its a guess :P
[21:04] <LucMove> as good as any
[21:04] <goliat> Btw i have changed and saved the file. Do i need to reboot or does it work right away?
[21:05] <LucMove> good question
[21:06] <LucMove> why not create another keybind entry?
[21:06] <LucMove> but now use this: <command>openbox --reconfigure</command>
[21:06] <LucMove> or you can just run 'openbox --reconfigure' on a terminal
[21:07] <LucMove> that will refresh the entire running configuration, including key shortcuts
[21:10] <goliat> it worked :D
[21:10] <goliat> Ctrl-Alt-L now gives me the logout window :)
[21:11] <LucMove> great
[21:11] <goliat> Thank you for your help LucMove :)
[21:11] <LucMove> you're welcome
[21:11] <LucMove> Gotta go now. Bye.
[21:11] <goliat> Bye
[21:21] <goliat> Yay! Power button working!
[22:15] <searching> can't install Lubuntu 11.10


[10:51] <cjwatson> TheMuso: err, oops. Could you re-push your partman-auto branch? I'm hoping you still have it ...
[10:51] <cjwatson> TheMuso: I was trying to upgrade it and deleted it (to work around some other problems), forgetting that you had added some revisions I hadn't fetched yet :(
[10:55] <cjwatson> or anyone who happens to have TheMuso's changes and is a member of ubuntu-core-dev could re-push it, I guess
[11:52] <TheMuso> cjwatson: I still have it. Do I need to overwrite?
[11:53]  * TheMuso is around for a MOTU release meeting, but will be gone after that.
[11:56] <cjwatson> shouldn't need to overwrite
[11:56] <TheMuso> Ok pushing now.
[11:57] <TheMuso> cjwatson: On the flip side, I may have to get a tarball of the casper bzr branch when I get back from holiday, as I need to do some accessibility work... Unless the bzr branch for casper is fixed?
[11:58] <cjwatson> it's not. I'll be happy to throw you a tarball
[11:58] <TheMuso> ok thanks, will prod you about it when I return.
[11:58] <TheMuso> cjwatson: pushed.
[11:59] <cjwatson> great, thanks
[11:59] <TheMuso> You're welcome, see you Monday week.
[11:59] <cjwatson> oh, about those dmraid disk images ...?
[12:00] <TheMuso> Yeah. They are linked in the email I sent to devel.
[12:00] <cjwatson> oh, great, thanks
[12:11] <cjwatson> thanks for the mdcfg bug forward; I'll sort that out
[12:11] <TheMuso> np.
[15:22] <CIA-45> debian-installer: cjwatson * r956 ubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Move mainline architectures to 2.6.27-2 kernels.
[15:25] <CIA-45> debian-installer: cjwatson * r957 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20080522ubuntu12
[17:25] <cjwatson> evand: how are those feature-freeze(-exception) bits coming along?
[17:27] <evand> cjwatson: taking much longer than initially expected, but I hope to have everything in by the end of the day.
[17:27] <cjwatson> ok, let me know if you need any help
[17:27] <evand> will do, thanks


[05:11] <Unit193> https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/legislation-committee-documents?id=GA133-SB-119 - http://www.ohiosenate.gov/legislation/GA133-SB-119 stiiiilll stuck.
[05:12] <jenni> [ The Ohio Legislature ] - https://bit.ly/2orKMcR
[05:12] <jenni> [ The Ohio Senate ] - https://bit.ly/2nELkw0


[00:33] <FernandoMiguel> chrome now has "Enable syncing sessions"Enable sessions in the sync options. This allows syncing your sessions to other clients.
[09:04] <artnay> micahg: hi. will you or chris be maintaining chromium translations from now on? fta said you would be the right person to discuss with.
[15:03] <micahg> artnay: we'll sort that out later this month
[18:44] <mdeslaur> I keep getting firefox sync errors...is anyone else having this issue?
[18:52] <micahg> I had some earlier this morning
[22:37] <bdrung> micahg: who is working on flashplugin (64 bit)?
[22:39] <micahg> bdrung: well, it's part of the upgrade to 11, just not sure when it'll happen yet, so I had to be a little vague in teh bug
[22:40] <micahg> just didn't want more people posting when? when? when?
[22:41] <bdrung> micahg: why do we have the flashplayer in partner and the -installer in multiverse. wouldn't be one enough?
[22:43] <micahg> bdrung: heh, that's something else being discussed, problem is the installer uses flash, this might be discussed at UDS
[22:43] <micahg> err..not uses, enables
[22:44] <bdrung> micahg: so ubiquity installs flashplugin-installer (if selected)?
[22:45] <micahg> right
[22:45] <bdrung> multiarch came to late ;)
[22:46] <micahg> well, no, multiarch doesn't fix all the flash 32 bit on amd64 issues
[22:46] <bdrung> yes, but with an amd64 flashplayer i don't need multiarch
[22:47] <micahg> well, you don't need it for flash :)
[22:48] <bdrung> you need 32 bit libs. multiarch is better than one binary package with 32 bit libs that are not updated often enough.
[22:52] <micahg> right