[12:09] <intelikey> soulrider
[12:09] <Bbetto> but kcker don run
[12:09] <soulrider> yes intelikey
[12:10] <Bbetto> i don't know why
[12:10] <moo> hi
[12:10] <intelikey> Bbetto i don't either.   you can run kcontrol and see about the settings on the pannel
[12:10] <moo> when ill type ./Configure i get the message "Your system does nat have 'cc' installed
[12:10] <soulrider> you need a C compiler
[12:10] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:10] <moo> oh
[12:11] <moo> k
[12:11] <intelikey> moo that's nice,  got any questions ?
[12:11] <soulrider> you might also wanna do sudo apt-get install c++
[12:11] <soulrider> sorry
[12:11] <soulrider> g++
[12:11] <Parkotron> Does anyone here know much about powernowd?
[12:11] <intelikey> but moo what you want to install is    build-essential
[12:11] <soulrider> that too
[12:12] <soulrider> but i dont think it uncludes g++ and gcc
[12:12] <moo> oO
[12:12] <soulrider> moo
[12:12] <moo> sry im new to linux
[12:12] <soulrider> do this
[12:12] <soulrider> sudo apt.get install build-essential
[12:12] <soulrider> if ./configure still fails
[12:12] <soulrider> do
[12:12] <intelikey> it's a meta package that depends on many things you need including gcc
[12:12] <soulrider> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:12] <soulrider> and sudo apt-get install g++
[12:12] <moo> allready typed g++
[12:12] <intelikey> !b-e
[12:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:12] <moo> apt-get install g++
[12:13] <soulrider> damn, i gotta go
[12:13] <soulrider> ill be back later
[12:13] <soulrider> see ya!
[12:13] <moo> bye
[12:13] <intelikey> !repositories
[12:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:13] <intelikey> !packages
[12:13] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:13] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Eh?
[12:14] <intelikey> DaSkreech nothing.    oh wait.   isn't there a right click on the desktop menu that allows for add pannel ?
[12:14] <intelikey> is add panel in that menu ?
[12:14] <Parkotron> I have an AMD Athlon64 3000+ with two possible clock speeds: 1000MHz and 1800MHz. CPU stepping worked out of the box on Breezy, but the processor nevers slows down on Dapper. powernowd is running and it properly identifies my processor including the available frequencies, but no throttling occurs. Does anyone have any ideas?
[12:14] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: What's going on?
[12:15] <moo> hm
[12:15] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Huh?
[12:15] <moo> hm...   /usr/src is empty
[12:15] <moo> where is the kubuntu Linux Kernel sourc directory?#
[12:15] <cutepinkbunnies> ok so how do I run kdevelop?
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> My pannel menu is on right click K button
[12:15] <intelikey> moo  did you install the source ?
[12:16] <moo> i only install from live cd and get some apps
[12:16] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: from the menu?
[12:16] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: I don't see it on the menu :(
[12:17] <DaSkreech> intelikey, Catull_Mac: Ooops Gotta go
[12:17] <moo> must i download the kernel soruce and unpack it in /usr/src/linux/ ?
[12:17] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: I think it's under "Development" or something.
[12:17] <cutepinkbunnies> ya there is no development on my menu :(
[12:17] <intelikey> cutepinkbunnies things don't instantly appear in the menu    but it should show up there within a few minutes after it's installed.
[12:17] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: thx a lot so far
[12:18] <cutepinkbunnies> ahh
[12:18] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Sure Did you find what I was talking about?
[12:18] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: or just type kdevelop3 in any console. that'll start it.
[12:18] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: im abaout to ask some krauts ;)
[12:18] <moo> someone help me plz ^^  i only want to get my wlan drivers working on ubuntu
[12:18] <intelikey> moo apt-get install linux-source    but it's the ubuntu package there is newer source at kernel.org  or some place
[12:19] <DaSkreech> All right well When you get to disk management then check to make sure that the two paritions have been created. If they are then reboot with the CD :)
[12:19] <intelikey> !wireless
[12:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:20] <moo> thx
[12:20] <cutepinkbunnies> omfg
[12:20] <DaSkreech> intelikey: If Catull_Mac goes awry see if you can help with the alternate CD
[12:20] <cutepinkbunnies> the thing launches then dissapears
[12:20] <Catull_Mac> daskreech: you?re great... it seems i will come here more often
[12:20] <m`kay_ubunux> guten abend
[12:20] <moo> hi
[12:20] <m`kay_ubunux> hi all
[12:20] <DaSkreech> Catull_Mac: Please do :0
[12:20] <Catull_Mac> :D
[12:20] <intelikey> i'll answer questions as honestly as humour will allow
[12:21] <m`kay_ubunux> i have a big problem to install my ati radeon 9800. who would me help please
[12:21] <intelikey> !de
[12:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:21] <Catull_Mac> hehe... that?s fine... it seems they don?t understand my problem at kubuntu-de ^^
[12:21] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: how'd you install it?
[12:21] <m`kay_ubunux> /join #kubuntu-de
[12:21] <intelikey> Catull_Mac that was for m`kay_ubunux
[12:22] <m`kay_ubunux> intelikey: :-(
[12:22] <spazz> argh what is the easiest way to get a file from someone on windows
[12:22] <spazz> like 4mb file
[12:22] <Catull_Mac> thats what i thought
[12:22] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: What's the problem?
[12:23] <drbreen> spazz: make a smb share
[12:23] <drbreen> spazz: then opint konqueror to it
[12:23] <intelikey> spazz rsync maybe
[12:23] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: I've got a card like that and it works fine. I don't do proprietary drivers though.
[12:23] <moo> where the source is now stored?
[12:23] <spazz> Well, he has AIM and I have ... this pos that doesnt do file transfers like a normal porgram should.
[12:23] <spazz> So, I was thinking file upload website, but argh cant find a good one
[12:24] <m`kay_ubunux> how can i remove the proprietary drivers and install the others?
[12:25] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[12:25] <intelikey> larson9999 most of the time.
[12:25] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: I installed via KDE
[12:25] <cutepinkbunnies> not a single frikin thing works
[12:26] <osh_> m`kay_ubunux: it comes with the free drivers if you don't specifically add the ati-drivers.
[12:26] <larson9999> Catull_Mac: still at it?  i'm guessing the mac on your nick means you don't have linux working yet?
[12:26] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: Installed through adept?
[12:26] <cutepinkbunnies> osh_: yes
[12:27] <pierreth> hello
[12:28] <osh_> cutepinkbunnies: remove it and reinstall it. Perhaps something went wrong during installation.
[12:28] <pierreth> how can i mark a message as spam in kontact?
[12:28] <linuxkid2> hi
[12:28] <intelikey> i'm of the firm impression that one should never update software unless there is something seriously wrong with what he's got.     updates are for people that like to twitter tinker and fiddle with the system all time.
[12:29] <linuxkid2> maybe, but I say people who use edgy are that way
[12:29] <crimsun> (some of kinda have to use edgy since we, well, make it?)
[12:29] <larson9999> intelikey: or if there is a new feature that he wants, or if there is a security concern, or the wind is blowing in the right direction
[12:29] <Catull_Mac> larson9999: hi :)  ummm just finished partitioning with mpart ;)
[12:29] <crimsun> some of us, rather.
[12:29] <linuxkid2> cool
[12:29] <intelikey> Q. 'what so linux users do?'    A. 'they install software.'
[12:30] <intelikey> s/so/do/
[12:30] <linuxkid2> intelikey: you should at least have the security repos enabled.
[12:31] <intelikey> linuxkid2 why ?   can you hack my box ?
[12:32] <drbreen> intelikey: unlikely, but security is GOOD !
[12:32] <linuxkid2> intelikey: I can't, but I don't know how. It's just good practice.
[12:32] <larson9999> intelikey: i don't install any more in linux than i did in windows.  i used mostly OSS in windows too but the difference there is windows has a security patch or 2 just about everyday so i have to upgrade
[12:32] <linuxkid2> it's not as critical as when you use windows by any means, but still...
[12:33] <intelikey> drbreen linuxkid2 better to have everything working, than to have security that doesn't run....
[12:33] <linuxkid2> I've yet to have an upgrade break anything. I kind of missed that problem X upgrade.
[12:33] <intelikey> larson9999 no doubt   :)
[12:33] <drbreen> intelikey: it is not likely that security will break your system
[12:34] <drbreen> intelikey: your thinking in monopoly$oft dimensions ;)
[12:34] <intelikey> drbreen should i point at the last two weeks track record    :)
[12:34] <linuxkid2> you want security and usabillity, then use the stable version of Debian
[12:34] <himanika> #theone serv
[12:34] <drbreen> yeah debian stable for the win !
[12:34] <drbreen> i probably missed the x server break too
[12:35] <crimsun> I intentionally missed it by running Edgy.
[12:35] <intelikey> linuxkid2 by all means.  but i didn't want to spam the channel with advertizements.....
[12:35] <linuxkid2> I never used it, sorry :-(
[12:35] <drbreen> or use stable and secure SLACKWARE !!!111
[12:36] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i boot now from the livecd
[12:36] <linuxkid2> yeah slack. ha ha!
[12:36] <intelikey> crimsun you rascle
[12:36] <intelikey> :)
[12:36] <drbreen> i stared with slackware. told me many things 'bout linux usage und unix systems in general
[12:36] <drbreen> started
[12:36] <linuxkid2> I might try gentoo one of these days.
[12:36] <drbreen> now im at (k|x)ubuntu
[12:37] <drbreen> use koroora - gentoo for whimps
[12:37] <intelikey> Catull_Mac i haven't been keeping track of what you have done   could you give me a breif 1. 2. 3.  on what you've done ?
 use koroora - gentoo for whimps
[12:37] <linuxkid2> Does it work on semi-old hardware as well as Gentoo?
[12:38] <drbreen> linuxkid2: koroora is just precompiled gentoo stuff - so that it does not take 3 days to set up a system
[12:38] <drbreen> linuxkid2: you can then use it as gentoo
[12:38] <linuxkid2> I thought the point of gentoo was the fact that things had to compile.
[12:38] <linuxkid2> ?
[12:39] <linuxkid2> for speed and customizability.
[12:39] <pierreth> someone knows how to import from thunderbird to kontact?
[12:39] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: got the partitions running finally (was a long way) and i?m about to install kubuntu from the livecd i?ve dloaded...i?m new 2linux.. absolute n00b^^
[12:40] <drbreen> Catull_Mac: dont use kde if you are new to linux - it will eat your brain when you try to configure every little bit of your UI
[12:40] <Catull_Mac> o_O
[12:40] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ok i'll try to answer any questions you ask.   ready to boot the live cd ?
[12:41] <pierreth> drbreen: i am new to linux and kde is perfect for me
[12:41] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: already done that
[12:41] <intelikey> ok
[12:41] <intelikey> see the install to hard drive icon
[12:41] <springman> what is a good FTP client?
[12:41] <Catull_Mac> i?m  working on win and mac now for years drbreen ;)
[12:41] <drbreen> pierreth: the last three ppl i told to install kubuntu configured the shit out of it.
[12:42] <Ballistik> gFTP
[12:42] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: yep.. i?ll klick it
[12:42] <intelikey> springman cli  ncftp
 konqueror is a good ftp client ?
[12:42] <Sanne> springman: konqueror, kftpgrabber
[12:42] <drbreen> i should suggest slackware and fluxbox to linux newbs
[12:42] <springman> I am used to filezilla, is any of those comperable?
[12:42] <drbreen> that would be fun
[12:43] <pierreth> drbreen: it takes some to get around, may be so good for unexperienced users
[12:43] <intelikey> konqueror is your friend
[12:43] <pierreth> drbreen: some time
[12:43] <Sanne> springman: I found kftpgrabber a bit similar. Just try all of them :)
[12:43] <springman> gotcha! I am getting them now...
[12:44] <springman> Where in konqueror do I find FTP client? is it like internet exploder where you just right click and login?
[12:44] <drbreen> pierreth: but when they found out everything is configurable they started to ask me about it - and i couldnt resit: ther went my weekend
[12:44] <drbreen> springman: type ftp://theadress.tld in adress input field
[12:44] <drbreen> ?
[12:44] <intelikey> Catull_Mac at the point where it asks about automatic or manual partitioning  manual
[12:45] <pierreth> drbreen: what kind of people have you as friend? ;-)
[12:45] <springman> drbreen: i got it thanks!
[12:45] <Sanne> springman: in konqueror, you can use the profile "file-management" (or similar) with two panes. Connect to a ftp site with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>When connected, add the address to your bookmarks.
[12:45] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i?m at the point of the installtion (step5')...
[12:45] <Catull_Mac> ummm k ;)
[12:45] <intelikey> k
[12:45] <springman> Sanne: awesome, does any feature like that exist in firefox?
[12:45] <drbreen> pierreth: fat girls in pink clothes who name their laptop "bitch" ?
[12:46] <intelikey> read carefully what it's askeing about mount points and formatting Catull_Mac
[12:46] <intelikey> don't want to format something with data on it.
[12:46] <Sanne> springman: you can browser ftp sites in firefox, but it's not an ftp client per se.
[12:46] <drbreen> springman: no. firefox is for nooobs - konqueror is TEH BROWSER (tm)
[12:46] <springman> Sanne: i thought not..
[12:46] <drbreen> springman: konqueror does everything and more
[12:47] <draik> firefox can ftp... get the extension "FireFTP"
[12:47] <Sanne> springman: there might be an extension for it, however. I *think* I once saw one, but I might be mistaken.
[12:47] <pierreth> i have almost no help in kubuntu, how can i install it?
[12:47] <springman> hahaha.a...wow...TEH, first time i've seen that in here! I always ask my techs "whats TEH STATUS"!
[12:47] <drbreen> draik: yeah but konqueror does it OUT OF TEH BOX !
[12:47] <drbreen> springman: your techs ?
[12:47] <intelikey> konqueror is like less and mc and lynx all in one    lol
[12:47] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i?m now at the point where he realized my partitions...here is nothing to do for me, is it?
[12:47] <draik> drbreen, I'
[12:47] <springman> drbreen: i own a voice,video,data networking company
[12:48] <springman> oceanlan.com =P
[12:48] <draik> drbreen, I'm just used to firefoxe
[12:48] <draik> wtf is up with extra letters and my cut-off statements today???
[12:48] <drbreen> which wicked criminal did make the konqueror "show files size graphically"-mode ?
[12:48] <intelikey> Catull_Mac only make sure it lists them correctly and isn't marked for formatting  anything that is data rich.
[12:48] <Catull_Mac> k
[12:49] <intelikey> watch the check boxes on the left side
[12:49] <drbreen> springman: and what to the techs say ?
[12:49] <intelikey> right
[12:49] <intelikey> right side
[12:49] <intelikey>  my other left
[12:49] <springman> drbreen: of course they call me a n00b and laff!
[12:49] <drbreen> hrhr
[12:49] <Frederick> how do I install realpayer?
[12:49] <Frederick> player
[12:50] <drbreen> springman: the would if TEH STATUS werent in caps !
[12:50] <Sanne> drbreen: where's this option for graphical file sizes?
[12:50] <drbreen> frderick: real player is evil.
[12:50] <springman> drbreen: trust me, i am not the smartest person in my company..i dont need to be =) they do all the heavy brain lifting for me
[12:50] <springman> drbreen:
[12:50] <springman> whoops..fat finger
[12:50] <larson9999> i like arachne but there is no linux version that's uptodate and it is missing some features
[12:50] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: k no box checked at the main partition (with xp on it) check box for swap, but none for ext
[12:50] <springman> BTW everyone...gFTP is cool.
[12:50] <intelikey> !mplayer
[12:51] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[12:51] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:51] <draik> !FTP
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about FTP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <draik> !ftp
[12:51] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:51] <drbreen> sanne: i dont know where - i enabled it xome day accidentally, laughed a lot and disabled it
[12:51] <springman> oooh...i forgot about pure-ftp..i've used that in the past
[12:51] <intelikey> Catull_Mac i think you'll have to let it format the root partition  that   ext3  /    or it wont install
[12:51] <drbreen> larson9999: what does arachne ?
[12:51] <drbreen> intelikey: plz use reiser3 - its cooler and faster and stuff
[12:52] <intelikey> fs type is optional
[12:52] <Sanne> drbreen: haha, yeah, one of those features somewhere deep in the configs :). I still like to see it, will look around, thanks.
[12:52] <intelikey> drbreen no thank.  ext3 is reliable
[12:52] <drbreen> intelikey: it is, but it is sooooo... standard ?
[12:52] <drbreen> sanne: good luck !
[12:52] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: k  - mount point for xp= /media/hdal1 for swap=swap for ext3=/media/hda5  <--- change this one 2  "/"?
[12:52] <springman> what is the equivilent of notepad in nix?
[12:53] <talljon84> I'm looking to reimage my machine and trying to decide whether to use Kubuntu or Ubuntu.  For the purposes of XGL, which will work better and be more stable?
[12:53] <Sanne> drbreen: thanks :)
[12:53] <springman> !notepad
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <larson9999> drbreen: it's a lightweight graphical webrowser that used to have a *nix and dos version.  now there is just a dos version.
[12:53] <intelikey> yes Catull_Mac
[12:53] <jmarimo> Hello I am looking to install firefox browser on ubuntu and am having problems, i have already downloaded the software and it's a tar file, can anyone assist with instructions, many thanks
[12:53] <drbreen> springman: mousepad
[12:53] <intelikey> Catull_Mac that is the only ext3   right ?
[12:53] <springman> jmarimo: use Adept, it will make your life easier!!
[12:53] <Catull_Mac> right
[12:53] <drbreen> springman: there are several better editors with synthax highlighting and stuff but no one except mousepad has so few features
[12:54] <springman> jmarimo: it is trickey from what i saw with cli
[12:54] <intelikey> Catull_Mac yes make it /
[12:54] <jmarimo> i have already tried adept but the firefox software is not listed there
[12:54] <intelikey> and tick the format box for it.
[12:54] <Catull_Mac> i?ve done it already ;)
[12:54] <Sanne> springman: in KDE, a simple text editor is kwrite, kate is more advanced
[12:54] <springman> drbreen: thanks for the tip..is there a notepad++ type of thing?
[12:54] <intelikey> Catull_Mac is installing ?
[12:54] <larson9999> XE - the best text editor!  the editor debate never gets old.  or has been too old for far too long
[12:54] <GameOver69> hey guys everytime i try to run frostwire i get this error:  runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[12:54] <jmarimo> sorry, actually it's listed but it;s greyed out, any ideas??
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: is about 2
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> isn't firefox installed by default?
[12:55] <springman> jmarimo: it should be...
[12:55] <intelikey> 5
[12:55] <intelikey> 4
[12:55] <intelikey> 3
[12:55] <larson9999> jmarimo: it's mozilla-firefox in adept.  but i think it's not the newer version
[12:55] <springman> jmarimo: search mozilla-firefox
[12:55] <intelikey> 2
[12:55] <Skrot> 1
[12:55] <intelikey> :)
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,9
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,89
[12:55] <Catull_Mac> 0,88
[12:55] <intelikey> lol
[12:56] <Catull_Mac> the pc crushed.. bluescreen... o_O
[12:56] <springman> LeeJunFan: No, firefox is not in kubuntu by design..konqueror is built in broswer
[12:56] <jmarimo> i have just seached mozilla-firefox but its not listed
[12:57] <Ballistik> look for firefox
[12:57] <intelikey> wouldn't surprise me Catull_Mac    i have never learned to like the *buntu installer
[12:57] <Catull_Mac> just kidding ;)
[12:57] <jmarimo> That is correct, Konqueror is the default, but how can I install firefox
[12:57] <Ballistik> Look for firefox in adept, synaptic
[12:58] <Ballistik> Or just use the command "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[12:58] <intelikey> jmarimo sudo apt-get install firefox     dude.
[12:58] <GameOver69> what is better adept or synaptic?
[12:58] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i want to get rid of xp cause its instable and you tell me you?re not surprised o_O  (ok, it was abad joke... )
[12:58] <Ballistik> I like synaptic better
[12:58] <Sanne> jmarimo: you can even search for a package on packages.ubuntu.com, to see what's it called and which respoitory it's in.
[12:58] <Ballistik> But they're both good
[12:59] <GameOver69> what are the differences
[12:59] <Sanne> GameOver69: I like Synaptic better because it keeps logs of my installs.
[12:59] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ah ha humour can some times bite the hand that types it     :))))
[12:59] <Catull_Mac> ooh ooh *scared*
[01:00] <intelikey> GameOver69 one is gnome default and the other is kde default
[01:01] <GameOver69> intelikey, oh snyaptic is gnome?
[01:01] <intelikey> it's the default package manager in gnome  (ubuntu)
[01:01] <Sanne> GameOver69: ah yes, Synaptic needs Gnome libs, which you would have to install extra if you're using KDE.
[01:01] <intelikey> where adept is the default in kde (kubuntu)
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> um, if firefox is not on the desktop CD and someone installs from that won't main repos be set to that CD, and therefore not have firefox in main?
[01:02] <GameOver69> i see.... does anyone know how to install java 6 in kubuntu and use as default?
[01:02] <intelikey> LeeJunFan no
[01:03] <intelikey> breezy was the last release (afik) that used a cd repo
[01:03] <pierreth> how can i use the stocking bar?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: okay - good to know.
[01:03] <springman> GameOver69: good question..i wanna know myself
[01:03] <pierreth> i am not able to put something in it
[01:03] <GameOver69> haha
[01:03] <intelikey> !repos LeeJunFan
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repos LeeJunFan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <GameOver69> there ahs to be a way
[01:04] <intelikey> !repos > LeeJunFan
[01:04] <Sanne> intelikey: what do you mean? You can always add a cd to your sources.list to use as a repository.
[01:04] <intelikey> Sanne you can add.  the installer doesn't
[01:05] <Sanne> intelikey: hm, I think the text installer does. I can't remember to have put it in myself. Good to know the Live CD installer doesn't, thanks.
[01:06] <intelikey> Sanne the alternate install cd or dvd might.    dvd probably   idk  i only have shipit cd's   dialup.
[01:07] <intelikey> can't go around dl'ing cd's on dialup no can i ?      huh ?   huh ?   tell me !
[01:07] <intelikey> :)
[01:08] <intelikey> s/no/now/
[01:08] <Sanne> intelikey: I will pay attention tomorrow, Kubuntu install is planned for my dearest :). We will use the alternate CD.
[01:09] <Sanne> :)
[01:09] <intelikey> k  you can leave me a message if im not here  /msg mesgserv help
[01:09] <intelikey> i'd like to know about the alternate      actually i'd like to have a copy   hehe
[01:10] <jmarimo> Hie, I have downloaded firefox but trying to install it via sudo apt-get install firefox*.deb am getting this error message
[01:10] <jmarimo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:10] <jmarimo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:10] <intelikey> err is it nickserv
[01:10] <Sanne> intelikey: I like it better, maybe I'm too old...
[01:11] <intelikey> broke 50 yet ?
[01:11] <Sanne> intelikey: I can leave a message with nickserv? Cool. Will do.
[01:11] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, the command is sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[01:11] <springman> so how can I play .WMV files on kaffeine? or should I just use VLC?
[01:12] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago i guess that depends on what you want to do  no?
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> if you want to install a deb that is how i do it
[01:12] <Sanne> oh. 50. Not yet :)
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> also, make sure you aren't sudo and doing something else
[01:13] <drbreen_> springman: use vlc. kaffeine and totem are utter crap.
[01:13] <Tokeiito> how to make in Konversation 2lines of bars?
[01:13] <intelikey> jmarimo one of three thing least likely first.  1 your sudo is broke 'not in admin group'   2, you didn't try it as root 'sudo it'   3 another package manager frontend is running 'close adept or the automatic updater'
[01:13] <springman> drbreen: I have noticed...they are ok, but nowhere near VLC
[01:14] <springman> I used VLC in winblows..never on kubuntu..
[01:14] <springman> i am installing now
[01:14] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago yeah that works.  i enter it in mc and run the install script usually.
[01:15] <Sanne> drbreen: "crap" is a bit extreme, wouldn't you think?
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> cool
[01:16] <intelikey> springman i like vlc.   i watch movies with it in console    no X
[01:16] <jmarimo> Just tried again to install firefox but there are lot of dependency error messages relating to package libatkl etc not installed, what else am i missing?
[01:16] <larson9999> vlc is nice
[01:17] <snowdrift> hello, all
[01:17] <snowdrift> what is the command again to edit grub.lst
[01:17] <snowdrift> i cannot remember
[01:17] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i started now kubuntu from hdd and i?m about to dl through the actualisizer
[01:17] <snowdrift> i need to change the boot order
[01:17] <springman> intelikey: thats just fxing g33ky
[01:17] <springman> =P
[01:18] <Sanne> snowdrift: well, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can edit it with any text editor, as sudo.
[01:18] <intelikey> you calling me a geek !     hey damnit you calling me a geek buddy !       </eddy murphy impression>
[01:18] <Sanne> snowdrift: remember to make a backup first
[01:19] <intelikey> i'm gumby!
[01:19] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i need an irc-client for kubuntu :)
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Catull_Mac, xchat
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> irris
[01:20] <intelikey> kirc should be installed
[01:20] <intelikey> Catull_Mac kirc
[01:20] <snowdrift> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:20] <snowdrift> i dont seem to have gedit installed
[01:20] <Sanne> snowdrift: on kubuntu you could use kwrite or kate
[01:20] <snowdrift> how long have you used linux?
[01:21] <snowdrift> ;-)
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: gedit is the default text editor for Gnome
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: me?
[01:21] <springman> Grrrr....Quanta+ just crashed and gabe me a SIGSEGV error...WTF does that mean!?
[01:21] <snowdrift> yes, sanne.
[01:21] <intelikey> snowdrift me ?
[01:21] <Sanne> snowdrift: hmmm *thinks* if my memory serves me correctly, I installed Debian Woody in November 2002.
[01:21] <snowdrift> woody
[01:22] <snowdrift> hahaha
[01:22] <ro> hi, i need some help ...can't download amsn on konqueror
[01:22] <snowdrift> r u american?
[01:22] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: i got kopete here... -.-
[01:22] <intelikey> ro use gaim
[01:22] <Sanne> snowdrift: I'm from Germany
[01:22] <snowdrift> ok
[01:22] <snowdrift> im surprised you dont use suse
[01:23] <ro> yeah but why does it bug when i try download it
[01:23] <larson9999> there was just now a tug of war between the cheerleaders of two local high school teams.  am i wrong but wouldn't it be better to lose and those have the lighter, 'hotter' cheerleaders?  forget for a minute that i'm too old to be thinking about high school chearleaders as hot.
[01:23] <Sanne> snowdrift: I liked the Debian philosophy better and stuck with Debian or Debian based distros ever since :)
[01:23] <springman> intelikey: nice eddy murphey impression...now, here's my Charley Murphey Impression: </impersonates Charley Murphey> Grrr! Stop calling me Eddy Murphey's Brother!!! XD
[01:23] <intelikey> Catull_Mac ok,  actually i've never used kopete   kirc used to be the default irc client in kde
[01:23] <snowdrift> it appears i edit the .lst correctly
[01:23] <snowdrift> but i got a strange console error
[01:23] <snowdrift> about a crash
[01:23] <snowdrift> those things bother me about linux
[01:24] <intelikey> springman lol
[01:24] <snowdrift> kded "probably crashed"
[01:24] <snowdrift> what does that mean?
[01:24] <springman> Konversation is what loaded up on my kubuntu (kde) when I installed from the actual factual distro disk
[01:25] <springman> Ohh yes, I have a REAL kubuntu distro...fancy cover and all =P
[01:25] <intelikey> snowdrift might mean you didn't run blah as root and it couldn't save the file ????    what command generated that error message?
[01:26] <intelikey> Catull_Mac duty calls.   hope you have everything running smoothly.
[01:26] <intelikey> fellas' i gotta go.
[01:28] <Catull_Mac> intelikey: everything.. only got stuck to joinirc
[01:28] <Catull_Mac> ooh^
[01:28] <josh___> k
[01:28] <josh___> wassup
[01:28] <springman> what is up?
[01:29] <josh___> linux
[01:29] <josh___> well it sure is higher than windows hahahaha..................................i'm so lame :(
[01:29] <springman> linux and?
[01:29] <springman> linux aaaannnnd?
[01:29] <josh___> i dont know
[01:29] <springman> omfg...
[01:29] <josh___> i wanna get a mac just to put kubuntu on it
[01:30] <springman> super troopers? yes/no?
[01:30] <moo> how do i open a shell?
[01:30] <springman> josh___: wtfx the point of that?
[01:30] <springman> start>run>konsole
[01:30] <josh___> it could be cool
[01:30] <springman> i think thats what you want
[01:30] <[GuS] > alt+f4= run :)
[01:30] <moo> i mean a shell fr other users
[01:31] <moo> that they can connect with ssh
[01:31] <josh___> i wanna install xgl
[01:31] <josh___> NOW
[01:31] <springman> josh___: gotcha
[01:31] <springman> sshd i think
[01:31] <moo> command not found
[01:31] <springman> oooh...
[01:31] <springman> did you apt-get or adept the sshd?
[01:31] <springman> i dont know if kubuntu has it natevly
[01:31] <[GuS] > err *alt+f2 i mean
[01:31] <Sanne> alt+F4=quit, alt+F2=run
[01:31] <springman> wow..hooked on phonics =P
[01:31] <Sanne> :)
[01:32] <springman> natively**
[01:32] <moo> Could not find sshd package
[01:33] <josh___> in ut2004 i would tell ppl that to exit a car you can also type exit in the console
[01:33] <josh___> then i'd get into the server cuz it was full
[01:33] <josh___> hehe i'm so naughty
[01:33] <springman> wow, thats uhmm...rude
[01:33] <springman> but i know factually that n00bs fall for that shit every time =P
[01:34] <Catull> wohooo... first time irc with kubuntu fresh installed :D
[01:35] <springman> Catull: congrats
[01:35] <moo> how i the package named?
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> so i can quit here :)
[01:35] <springman> first time on kubuntu?
[01:35] <moo> second :P
[01:35] <Catull> just installed it
[01:35] <springman> oh..wtf...are you in the channel on 2 machines?
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> jepp
[01:35] <Catull> yeah
[01:35] <springman> neat...from a mac and a pc i guess
[01:35] <Catull_Mac> cu
[01:36] <moo> where i can get the sshd package?
[01:36] <springman> makes sense
[01:36] <moo> apt-get install ..?
[01:36] <springman> moo: I was never very good with the cli installer..i always use adept..I know "its noob" but fxoff!
[01:37] <Sanne> moo: might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:37] <josh___> ok someone give me that link to the huge ubuntu wiki
[01:37] <springman> lsh-server is what adpet pulled
[01:38] <springman> or openssh-server
[01:38] <springman> gotta run fella's wife wants sex XD
[01:38] <Sanne> moo: quick search for a package name: apt-cache search <searchterm>
[01:39] <Sanne> tmi...
[01:39] <moo> ivbe installed now openssh-server
[01:39] <josh___> i'm scared
[01:40] <josh___> someone just opened my back door
[01:40] <josh___> wtf
[01:40] <josh___> guys what do i do
[01:40] <josh___> my parents left for the night
[01:40] <josh___> omg
[01:41] <moo> need a firewall? ^^
[01:41] <moo> close the backdoor
[01:42] <Catull> well.. kopete is strange
[01:42] <josh___> ok nobody is upstairs
[01:42] <josh___> i turned on the alarm
[01:42] <josh___> ya anywho
[01:43] <moo> oO
[01:43] <moo> get a knife
[01:44] <Catull> moo?
[01:44] <Catull> :( no fishbot i see....
[01:45] <moo> yeah?
[01:45] <QuadBlack> ?
[01:45] <benjamin1254> i accedently installed the server part of kubuntu and id like to get the kde gui up and running how do i fix this issue
[01:46] <moo> how i open an x terminal?
[01:46] <Catull> /server -m irc.quakenet.org
[01:46] <Catull> i guess i dont like jopete
[01:47] <Catull> -j +k
[01:47] <moo> i mean with ssh ^^
[01:47] <benjamin1254> can anyone help?
[01:48] <moo> someon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he so???????
[01:48] <Sanne> benjamin1254: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' might be all you need (please, pthers, correct me if I'm wrong)
[01:48] <moo> someon connect to my pc by openssh how can i see what he do??
[01:49] <DFM> that is correct
[01:49] <moo> ?
[01:49] <Sanne> DFM: me?
[01:50] <moo> DFM: me?
[01:50] <moo> ^^
[01:50] <Sanne> he
[01:50] <DFM> sorry yes
[01:50] <moo> he
[01:50] <DFM> got 3 machine running and happened to glance over and responded
[01:50] <benjamin1254> thank you sanne ill try that
[01:50] <Sanne> DFM: thanks :)
[01:50] <DFM> np
[01:50] <Sanne> benjamin1254: good luck
[01:50] <moo> DFM du you now i have to make it??
[01:51] <benjamin1254> thanks ill be back if it dont help
[01:51] <moo> or someone else? ^^
[01:51] <Sanne> benjamin1254: please do :)
[01:51] <DFM> you shouldn't have to make anything
[01:51] <moo> how can he open a "shared screen"?
[01:51] <DFM> just open a shell and enter sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <DFM> enter you password
[01:52] <moo> i want to look what he do
[01:52] <Sanne> DFM: it's benjamin1254 who asked about that, not moo.
[01:52] <moo> Sanne do you know?
[01:52] <Sanne> moo: unfortunately no, sorry
[01:52] <DFM> and select yes, when it is done kubuntu desktop will be an option upon log in.
[01:53] <DFM> sanne, I figured that thaks
[01:53] <moo> kubuntu-desktop is allready installed
[01:53] <Sanne> DFM: ah, ok :)
[01:53] <DFM> I really should stay out of the conversation when I am working with multi machines. sorry.
[01:54] <moo> hm
[01:54] <Sanne> DFM: no problem :)
[01:56] <Agios> moo, look at the bash history file perhaps
[01:56] <Agios> there is also a way to enable logging of all bash commands
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Agios: there is a bash history file that does it for you
[01:58] <Agios> as I said
[01:58] <moo> but i want see it live :D
[01:59] <Agios> tail -f /home/user/.bash_history
[02:00] <Agios> only way to get anymore live than that is to be looking over their shoulder
[02:00] <moo> in knoppix a friend connectet by shell and said i should type screen -Ux
[02:01] <moo> then i have seen what he typed live
[02:01] <josh___> ok how do i access wine?
[02:01] <moo> where is the rober?
[02:01] <Ash-Fox> josh___, the application is called 'wine'
[02:01] <josh___> do i just type in that command
[02:02] <Ash-Fox> Run your executable with wine.
[02:02] <josh___> ah here we go
[02:02] <josh___> i did wine program now its doing something
[02:02] <Timmmm> josh___: Go to shop, offer money, receive wine.
[02:02] <josh___> lol
[02:03] <josh___> ok someone do a remote desktop
[02:03] <josh___> help me out here
[02:03] <otaku-san> josh___: d00d wine is just basically a background thing...you type wine then the program you want to run to work it
[02:03] <josh___> really?
[02:04] <josh___> so can i install windows stuff on here?
[02:04] <Ash-Fox> Yes.
[02:04] <otaku-san> josh___: yeah when I first got wine I was like you...I wanted to pull it up....you can't do that
[02:04] <km0ti0n> I'm following a howto of the wiki, I'm building a kernel for use with XEN from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuDapper after I amke the kernel I am supposed to run "sudo debchange" but it errors complaining about debain/changelog missing.  where can I get a copy of a changelog?
[02:04] <Ash-Fox> wine installer.exe
[02:04] <km0ti0n> s/amke/make
[02:05] <Catull> back again
[02:05] <Ash-Fox> josh___, I suggest for wine help, you goto #WINEHQ though.
[02:05] <Catull> :)
[02:05] <Catull> !wine
[02:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:06] <Ash-Fox> !botabuse
[02:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[02:06] <otaku-san> josh___: just go to a site with some windoze installation and down it....then unpack it and go to that path...then run wine <program> ....
[02:06] <INeedHelp> i wanna know if there is defragmnet tools for linux?
[02:06] <Catull> :(
[02:06] <word> I'm trying to run audacity but i get this error in command line -  PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDWR PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000 PaHost_OpenStream: could not open /dev/dsp for O_RDONLY PaHost_OpenStream: ERROR - result = -10000
[02:07] <DFM> needhelp:no and you don't need it
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> word 'ls /dev/dsp' ?
[02:07] <word> it's there :-/
[02:07] <Ash-Fox> It's probably locked, something else using exclusive access to it.
[02:07] <DFM> needhelp:let me see if I can find a link that I read the other day explaining why
[02:10] <otaku-san> Ash-Fox: why did you pull a botabuse?
[02:10] <Sanne> word: you can try turning off the sound server in kontrol center
[02:11] <Ash-Fox> otaku-san, looked to me like people were going to start requesting a lot of different things from ubotu in a moment, is all.
[02:11] <Sanne> word: it's in Sound & Multimedia, Sound System, Enable the sound system.   Is this the only thing stopping you from using Linux totally?
[02:16] <josh___> well f.e.a.r. sure as hell aint gonna work
[02:17] <josh___> lol
[02:17] <josh___> does anyone have windows games on linux?
[02:18] <josh___> oh no
[02:18] <otaku-san> josh___: lots of people do....but mostly they use Linux architeched ones...not just windoze based
[02:18] <josh___> ok umm
[02:18] <josh___> one problem
[02:18] <josh___> does linux support direct x 9?
[02:19] <josh___> or will it run on opengl?
[02:20] <Sanne> josh___: directx is proprietary, Linux can't support it. It supports OpenGL.
[02:20] <josh___> hmm
[02:20] <josh___> so will guild wars run?
[02:20] <word> Sanne: i figured out what it's doing..i'm trying to get it to record and run skype at the same time..it doesn't want more than one app using it at the same time i suppose..what's another way to record a convo in skype?
[02:21] <Sanne> josh___: dunno, but maybe you'll find some answers here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[02:21] <otaku-san> Normally programs will support OpenGL...
[02:21] <josh___> good
[02:21] <otaku-san> just check first....try to stop headaches before they happen
[02:22] <Sanne> word: ah, yes, by default you can't have two apps access the sound device at the same time. I should have thought about asking that, sorry. What's a convo?
[02:22] <word> talking back and forth skype is a voip app. convo = conversation
[02:23] <kazuya> Quick question (hopefully).  I'm trying to use Kontact but when I try to for instance add something to the todo list. I get a window asking me to choose from two Default KOrganizer Resource files. Which is annoying in but also it then makes two entries.
[02:24] <Sanne> word: oh! Ok. There are some options, the best would be if both apps support the jack sound server, then you could route the output of one app into the input of the other through qjackctl (front end to jack). If they don't support jack, you can look into dmix, never used it though.
[02:24] <kazuya> So, is there a duplicate file I can delete or an entry I can edit or something, and of course where?
[02:25] <josh___> guess what
[02:25] <Sanne> word: I'll send you what the bot has to say about sound, sec
[02:25] <josh___> i'm on guild wars
[02:25] <Sanne> !sound > word
[02:26] <otaku-san> josh___: w00t!!!
[02:26] <Ash-Fox> josh___, you may suffer issues with the lack of cursor, or the game crashing when you look over lion's arch. But those problems are going to be fixed soon in Wine hopefully.
[02:26] <bl3ssing> any drivers for mouse and keyboard?
[02:26] <bl3ssing> where man I find them?
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> bl3ssing, the support is built into the kernel.
[02:27] <bl3ssing> Ash-Fox, and you mean?
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> I mean the kernel.
[02:27] <bl3ssing> i need drivers for my new keyboard ... and mouse from logitech
[02:27] <Ash-Fox> Just plug them in, and they will work.
[02:29] <Sanne> josh___: hmmm, those Guild Wars screenshots look fabulous. Is it really that pretty?
[02:29] <otaku-san> This isn't a problem....just something I want to know.  Ok I have a good connection...but when I use Konqueror.....it's sooooooooooo slow....but Firefox goes perfectly fast..why?
[02:31] <word> Sanne: none of it's suggestions seem relavent :-/
[02:31] <josh___> what
[02:31] <Sanne> word: oh, I'm sorry it doesn't help you. I guess the jack route isn't an option for you?
[02:31] <josh___> guild wars was buggy on linux
[02:32] <josh___> i coudn't correct my typing and there was no mouse
[02:33] <Martijn81> I just installed a machine here with 6.06.1, and it looks like dist-upgrade on deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main gives me a bloody load of unsigned packages. Errr, shouldn't those packages be signed?
[02:33] <Sanne> word: here's some info on jack: http://jackaudio.org/
[02:33] <josh___> this is wicked
[02:33] <word> Sanne: actually i found a howto on the wiki >< sorry about this
[02:33] <josh___> should i try f.e.a.r.
[02:34] <Sanne> word: oh, cool! Would you mind pointing me to this howto out of interest?
[02:34] <baldi^zZz> re
[02:36] <kazuya_> Bah, conn dropped, no one responded while I was gone did they?
[02:37] <Martijn81> kazuya_: nope
[02:37] <kazuya_> k
[02:38] <Martijn81> kazuya_: oeps, might be yes, i confused the arrows :o
[02:38] <vinicri> hi everybody. qhat client p2p can i install with aptget on kubuntu
[02:38] <vinicri> ?
[02:38] <rouzic> amule
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install amule
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[02:39] <rouzic> sudo apt-get install xmule
[02:40] <vinicri> thx. downloadig
[02:40] <Sanne> vinicri: search for packages by typing: apt-cache search <searchterm>
[02:43] <word> Sanne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto seems to be having the same problem though..
[02:43] <Sanne> word: thanks
[02:44] <vinicri> ok. thx  Sanne. when checking libaries avaliable for source codes with ./configure, often i cant find the files needed with apt-get? what is the right way solve this?
[02:45] <Sanne> vinicri: I always go to packages.ubuntu.com, type in the file name in "Search the contents of packages" to look for the package that provides that file. You can search for packages there also.
[02:45] <word> Sanne: it's having a problem with more than one device on it as well.
[02:46] <Sanne> word: reading it currently
[02:48] <otaku-san> ahhhh ....*lots of mean words*.....why must it error on this.....hey does anyone know why I'm getting errors when I "make" a Gimp plugin....
[02:48] <Sanne> word: it said to quit skype before running skype-rec. Did you do that?
[02:48] <word> yes
[02:48] <word> output from skype-rec -> /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[02:49] <Sanne> word: some other app is still accessing the sound device
[02:49] <word> but if i startup skype alone it works
[02:49] <de_uan> hii everybodyyy
[02:49] <word> errr....strike that..
[02:51] <mcrandello> anyone know what version of madwifi I need to get to get the same performance as the atheros drivers from dapper?
[02:52] <mcrandello> I tried with madwifi 0.9.0 and the latest CVS but the performace is abysmal compared
[02:52] <word> Sanne: can't i just let more then one use it? ..and how do i find out what's using it currently?
[02:53] <DFM> hi de_uan
[02:54] <Sanne> word: I'm trying to find out how to list what's using it... so far no success. You can't let more than one app use /dev/dsp, except with things like ja or dmix, as far as I know.ck
[02:54] <Sanne> jack even
[02:55] <[Nige] > anyone using keytouch?
[02:59] <word> Sanne: it seems by putting aoss ./skype-rec instead it works alright :d
[03:00] <word> ermm...nevermind..
[03:01] <word> Sanne: now i can get skype working by doing aoss skype but not skype...
[03:02] <draik> WOOHOO... I MIGHT BE A DADDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <vinicri> how make kubuntu able to play mp3?
[03:02] <mcrandello> !restricted
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <mcrandello> vinicri: ^^^^
[03:03] <Sanne> word: I'm afraid this is going over my head... I only used jack so far for multi audio apps.
[03:03] <word> >,
[03:04] <word> i really need to know what else is using it  Sanne any ideas?
 ?
[03:04] <Sanne> word: maybe the kde sound server is still up? It's called arts or artsd, I think.
[03:05] <[Nige] > i have a really dumb questions, how do i bind my win key to the start menu?
[03:05] <mcrandello> vinicri: check out the links above there from ubotu
[03:06] <word> nope
[03:13] <Agios> [Nige] : try Alt-F1, you can change the bindings with kcontrol
[03:14] <vinicri> cani disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to imporve de performace?
[03:14] <robin> Is kubuntu nicer than ubuntu?
[03:15] <Sanne> robin: completely a matter of preference
[03:15] <robin> ok
[03:15] <robin> which  has the best performance
[03:15] <robin> I can't get dvd to work under Ubuntu :(
[03:16] <Sanne> robin: for me, KDE is snappier than Gnome, but that might not be for everybody.
[03:16] <vinicri> kde runt a little fast here
[03:16] <vinicri> **runs
[03:16] <robin> ok
[03:16] <vinicri> can i disable any feature of kde on kubuntu to improve de performace?
[03:17] <Sanne> robin: you might have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:18] <aseigo> vinicri: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips
[03:18] <mcrandello> vinicri: kcontrol, click on the + next to Apperance and themes and then hit "Style"
[03:18] <mcrandello> you can adjust or completely disable gui effects there
[03:18] <mcrandello> which should help a little
[03:18] <robin> ok
[03:19] <Sanne> vinicri: I dunno, usually when you have hardware where Kde or Gnome is a bit much, some lighter desktops are recommended, like Xfce, or even light window managers like fluxbox or openbox. You won't have all the nice config tools, though.
[03:19] <mcrandello> also you can drill into "Desktop" and remove some of those multiple desktops if you don't use them, not sure if it makes that much of a dif
[03:19] <jojo930> hi all
[03:19] <jojo930> im french
[03:19] <jojo930> lol
[03:19] <jojo930> hi
[03:19] <jojo930> HI !
[03:20] <mcrandello> vinicri: "Window behavior" under the Desktop entry also has some stuff which might help, "Display content in moving Windows" etc.
[03:20] <word> how do you find out what app is using /dev/dsp?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> lol i dont speak english
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> What is dpkg-reconfigure command for reconfiguring xorg's fonts?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> ya un francais ?
[03:20] <mcrandello> parlay view frond say?
[03:20] <BIOMAN> YA UN FRANCAIS ??
[03:20] <cutepinkbunnies> lol mcrandello
[03:20] <Ash-Fox> !fr
[03:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:21] <mcrandello> cutepinkbunnies: I have a portuguese phrasebook that actually has all the phrases captioned with english words like that
[03:21] <mcrandello> it works
[03:21] <cutepinkbunnies> yeah that's kinda funny
[03:22] <cutepinkbunnies> its definetely the way it sounds kind of
[03:22] <cutepinkbunnies> to a frenchman it would sound really hacked
[03:22] <word> heh
[03:23] <word> soooo...how do you find out the app using a device? such as /dev/dsp?
[03:23] <felipe_> \exit
[03:24] <Sanne> word: I just found, try: fuser /dev/dsp
[03:25] <Agios> try ldof /dev/dsp
[03:25] <mcrandello> try lsof|grep dsp
[03:25] <Agios> dunno if it works for devices or not
[03:25] <mcrandello> I see some stuff in lsof that references /dev/pts so it might work
[03:25] <Agios> perhaps
[03:26] <mcrandello> is there any way to figure out which version of madwifi came with my distro?
[03:26] <ryanakca> Sanne: what's that for?
[03:28] <mcrandello> running strings on ath_pci found srcversion=532488E7A58A464B250A176 but I don't think that's helpful
[03:28] <Agios> mcrandello: dpgk -l mad*
[03:28] <Sanne> ryanakca: type 'man fuser': fuser - identify processes using files or sockets
[03:28] <mcrandello> it comes in linux-restricted-modules-$KERNNAME
[03:29] <mcrandello> and the package doesn't list versions
[03:29] <Sanne> mcrandello: is it a kernel module?
[03:29] <mcrandello> yep
[03:30] <mcrandello> but not GPL afaik which is why it comes with the restricted package
[03:30] <Sanne> mcrandello: try with 'modinfo modulename'
[03:30] <Sanne> mcrandello: or listen to Agios
[03:30] <mcrandello> comes up with the same version 532488E7A58A464B250A176
[03:31] <mcrandello> the old version I think used 0.9.something for their version numbers and the ng version is using dates
[03:31] <Agios> only other place I know to look would be in the changelog in /usr/share/doc/linux-restricted-moduels*
[03:32] <mcrandello> Agios: ooh good call I'll check that
[03:34] <Malice007> ? anyone have a link to install shockwave and flash?
[03:34] <Agios> there is no shockwave for linux
[03:34] <Agios> you can install the flash plugin though
[03:35] <mcrandello> okay no version numbers that I can see :(
[03:35] <Agios> flashplugin-nonfree  is what I'm using
[03:35] <mcrandello> they updated to the current cvs around 2.6.10
[03:35] <josh__> is it possible to use wine to install drivers?
[03:36] <kazuya> Been awhile, try again.  I'm haveing a problem in Kontact where if I for instance try to add a new todo item it says I have two Default KOrganizer Resource files and then makes two copies of the item.  Is there a file I need to delete or modify or what?
[03:36] <mcrandello> josh__: afaik no because everything is abstracted through the linux drivers
[03:36] <larson9999> josh__: i don't think so
[03:36] <josh__> well i just did :P
[03:36] <mcrandello> josh__: ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <mcrandello> that might be different
[03:37] <josh__> huh?
[03:37] <mcrandello> some wireless card drivers use the binary blob from the windows drivers
[03:37] <Agios> mcrandello: try this: apt-cache showpkg linux-restricted-modules-2.6.whatever
[03:38] <Agios> that shows the version of the nvidia driver
[03:38] <Agios> and some firmware version of something
[03:39] <Agios> might show what you are looking for as well
[03:39] <mcrandello> yeah nothing :(
[03:39] <mcrandello> good tip though, I've been rooting around in adept trying to get the info
[03:40] <Agios> well, one last stab at it. copy the modue somewhere and open it with khexedit. The version may be imbedded in the code and show up as text.
[03:41] <mcrandello> strings only found that super long number thing
[03:41] <mcrandello> which doesn't look like anything that madwifi released ;_;
[03:41] <josh__> i'm gonna try rollercoaster tycoon 2
[03:41] <Sanne> night all
[03:41] <Agios> oh yeah, forgot you checked that
[03:42] <mcrandello> just asked in #ubuntu-devel, worst that can happen is I get kicked for a support Q :)
[03:43] <Agios> lol
[03:44] <Agios> they should make that kind of information available IMO
[03:44] <Agios> wb Jucato
[03:44] <mcrandello> Agios: just got a reply: apt-get source linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-686
[03:44] <Jucato> ehehe thanks!
[03:45] <mcrandello> the source is as good as knowing which one is in there :)
[03:45] <Constrabus> !ati
[03:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <Agios> mcrandello: heh, I didn't think of that one
[03:45] <Jucato> I was trying out PCLinuxOS MiniME and XChat when I was here a while ago :-D
[03:46] <Agios> hehe
[03:46] <Agios> mcrandello: read the apt-get man page on the source section.
[03:47] <Agios> you may not get the source for the binary you are running. You probably will though.
[03:47] <oomph> pclinux not bad
[03:49] <Jucato> oomph: yeah. not bad at all
[03:50] <oomph> i convertered a few over
[03:50] <oomph> laptops
[03:50] <Jucato> I'm interested with it since it currently has one of the smallest KDE distros (MiniME and Junios)
[03:50] <Jucato> s/Junios/Junior
[03:52] <a|i3N> help. Ark crashed. It won't run now. i'm trying to extract a file an i kinda need it lol
[03:54] <a|i3N> "ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed." - anybody have any ideas how i can fix it?
[04:00] <LaserJock> how do you copy in konsole?
[04:00] <Jucato> highlight with the mouse and right-click
[04:00] <LaserJock> there isn't a keyboard shortcut, like paste?
[04:01] <soulrider> yes
[04:01] <soulrider> shift insert
[04:01] <soulrider> that will paste
[04:01] <Jucato> you can configure Konsole to use something like Ctrl+Ins (or Ctrl+C, but that's already set for Cancel)
[04:01] <timothy> In dsl live cd's sh files just run.  in kubuntu I have to type sh first, how do i change this?
[04:01] <soulrider> yea
[04:01] <Jucato> but highlighting the text without a mouse... I don't know
[04:01] <soulrider> ctrl + ins
[04:01] <soulrider> sorry
[04:02] <flaccid> !vnc
[04:02] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[04:02] <LaserJock> seems weird to have a shortcut for paste but not for copy
[04:02] <flaccid> !freenx
[04:02] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:02] <Jucato> LaserJock: ehehe! kinda, but probably because there's more pasting in Konsole than copying :-D
[04:04] <timothy> jucato: are you saying that no one ever has to copy to ask for help?
[04:04] <Jucato> timothy: nope. I said there was more pasting being done. I didn't say that no one has to copy
[04:04] <LaserJock> wow, lots of people in this channel, way cool
[04:05] <timothy> I always just use shift insert
[04:05] <LaserJock> shift insert pastes
[04:06] <Martijn81> hmm, i installed flash and java at the same time, and that did the sun license agreement freeze for some reason. Now when i start adept, sun is "upgradable" to the same package version. So i do that, and again, it freezes at ok (focus and enter on ok doesn't work)
[04:06] <timothy> so then you don't need the shortkut
[04:07] <Jucato> timothy: he was looking for a shortcut to Copy
[04:07] <Jucato> Martijn81: what did you use to install java?
[04:07] <Martijn81> jucato: adept
[04:07] <flaccid> can vnc or freenx do access to display :0
[04:07] <LaserJock> flaccid: I think x11vnc does that
[04:07] <Martijn81> 2.0
[04:07] <Jucato> Martijn81: ok... Adept can't handle installing Java :-D
[04:08] <Jucato> Martijn81: go to Konsole and type in "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[04:08] <Martijn81> jucato: already did
[04:08] <LaserJock> poor adept, sometimes it seems not quite ... adept ;-)
[04:08] <mcrandello> iirc I got it to install by hitting "details" when it looked like it stalled and got a console
[04:08] <timothy> jucato: why doesn't he create one?
[04:08] <mcrandello> it was just hanging out there waiting for approval on the Sun license
[04:09] <mcrandello> (in adept)
[04:09] <LaserJock> timothy: I'm just talking about defaults. It seemed odd to me that there was a shortcut for paste but not for copy
[04:09] <Jucato> timothy: hehehe that's what I was telling him. there's no keyboard shortcut for Copy by default
[04:09] <josh__> click details
[04:09] <LaserJock> timothy: I can certainly create one it just seems a little odd (smacks of bugginess if I didn't know better)
[04:09] <Martijn81> jucato: ok, konsole apt-get upgrade worked finally :)
[04:10] <Jucato> Martijn81: glad to hear that
[04:11] <josh__> guild wars was the only game that worked in wine
[04:11] <josh__> f.e.a.r. or rollercoaster tycoon didn't even work
[04:11] <Jucato> guild wars works in wine?!?!!?
[04:12] <flaccid> LaserJock: x11vnc available by apt-get sources?
[04:12] <LaserJock> flaccid: yeah, it's in the Universe repo
[04:12] <flaccid> ty
[04:12] <flaccid> !x11vnc
[04:12] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-5 (dapper), package size 318 kB, installed size 820 kB
[04:13] <soulrider> !shell
[04:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:13] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Got a second for a pm d00d ?
[04:14] <Jucato> hi Hawkwind!
[04:14] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Good evening :)
[04:14] <soulrider> indeed
[04:14] <soulrider> i wanted to talk to you actually
[04:15] <Jucato> Hawkwind: that "channel" is still up :-D
[04:16] <flaccid> possible to run x11vnc as service, or should i script to run it on start?
[04:16] <a|i3N> can ya'll recommend any good 1st person shooters similar to wolfenstein that'll run on a slower machine? (it's a p3 500 w/128mb and a crappy tnt video card)
[04:16] <LaserJock> flaccid: hmm, I'm not sure
[04:16] <flaccid> np
[04:17] <LaserJock> arg, how do I set general keyboard shortcuts?
[04:17] <Kerberos-> hi
[04:17] <LaserJock> I haven't used KDE for a year or so, you can probably tell ;-)
[04:18] <Jucato> LaserJock: for Konsole? Settings > Configure Shortcuts
[04:18] <soulrider> !scripting
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <LaserJock> Jucato: no, for general stuff. I wonder how to switch desktops
[04:22] <Jucato> LaserJock: System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:22] <LaserJock> ah Regional, that's right. You wouldn't want to put it in with Keyboard ;-)
[04:23] <Jucato> ehehe "Keyboard" there is more for the Keyboard device settings. but for accessibility and regional settings...
[04:30] <mx> anyone care to help me get some drivers for my radeon 9550 card running?
[04:32] <mx> ah, sorry.. i seem to have found instructions
[04:36] <lmosher> How do I check what version of a file I have (on command line)
[04:37] <Agios> you mean a package?
[04:37] <Jucato> lmosher: apt-cache show <package name> ??
[04:37] <Agios> or dpkg -l name*
[04:38] <lmosher> ty
[04:39] <Silver_Adept> Evening (localtime) everyone.
[04:41] <michelle_> My login is saying that no sound cards are found and that kmix cannot be found, but when other people login the sound works fine.  Any thoughts on why?
[04:44] <Silver_Adept> Does anyone know of a good, simple, working way to get my microphone to record? It's a generico sort of microphone hooked up to a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 - I either get an "improperly configured" error, or when I try to test it, ALSA claims the device is busy.
[04:45] <Agios> michelle_: type groups at a command prompt and make sure you are part of the audio group
[04:45] <lmosher> I'm trying to compile something and automake1.6 is a dependency however "sudo apt-get automake1.6" reports: "Package automake1.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package." help?
[04:47] <Agios> apt-get install automake=1.6    try that
[04:47] <Silver_Adept> Can you install automake1.6 from (apt/synaptic/adept)?
[04:47] <michelle_> Agios: I'll try that in just a second.  I typed "lspci -v" and it says for many of the components "Capabilities: <available only to root>".  What does that mean?
[04:47] <Ash-Fox> !dekorator
[04:47] <ubotu> dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (dapper), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB
[04:48] <michelle_> Agios: How do I know if I'm part of the audio group?
[04:48] <Agios> it means only the super user can use those capabilities
[04:48] <Ash-Fox> How does one access dekorator?
[04:48] <Agios> type groups
[04:48] <Silver_Adept> Ash-Fox: If not installed, install it using apt/synaptic/adept/whatever.
[04:49] <Jucato> Ash-Fox: the version of deKorator in the repositories is quite outdated. but you access it through System Settings > Appearance > Window Decoration
[04:49] <Ash-Fox> Silver_Adept, it is installed, how to I start it?
[04:49] <lmosher> Agios, Silver_Adept I was using tab completion. automake1.6 is in the list
[04:49] <michelle_> Agios:  Does that mean that I have to be a super user to use sound?  Is it possible to be upgraded to a super user or is there only one super user in Linux?
[04:49] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, thankyou :)
[04:50] <Agios> michelle_: groups
[04:50] <Silver_Adept> michelle_: Using the group manager, you can assign yourself to various groups.
[04:50] <Jucato> michelle_: System Settings > Users and Groups
[04:50] <michelle_> Agios: I typed groups and all I saw was "michelle"  Does this mean I'm not part of the audio group?
[04:51] <Jucato> then check if your user is part of (includes in its list) the "audio" group
[04:52] <Silver_Adept> (Any help on the microphone-SBLive problem?)
[04:52] <flaccid> counter strike on linux/ubuntu ? possible?
[04:52] <josh__> use wine
[04:52] <flaccid> serious
[04:52] <josh__> yeh
[04:52] <flaccid> ok
[04:53] <flaccid> i'll try
[04:53] <josh__> i used wine to install guild wars and f.e.a.r.
[04:53] <Silver_Adept> Wow. Wine hasn't done much for me but sit there and look pretty.
[04:53] <mx> wine works with fear?
[04:53] <larson9999> josh__: they go ok?  the newer versions of wine do pretty good by me.
[04:53] <josh__> yeh
[04:54] <mx> nice.. i have a copy of fear mp
[04:54] <Jucato> It pretty much seats there when I don't use it...
[04:54] <larson9999> but sometimes you don't know you have problems until you get pretty far into a game
[04:54] <josh__> yeh
[04:54] <josh__> well anyways
[04:54] <josh__> i need help
[04:54] <larson9999> i use it for dvdshrink :)
[04:54] <nrdb> is there a channel for edubuntu ?
[04:54] <michelle_> jucato:  I think I have to be an administrator to add groups.
[04:54] <Agios> michelle_: yes, you are not a member of the audio group which you need to be for sound.
[04:54] <LaserJock> nrdb: yes
[04:55] <Jucato> michelle_: yep.
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Why not use the linux version of dvdshrink instead
[04:55] <nrdb> ok, what is it?
[04:55] <LaserJock> nrdb: #edubuntu crazily enough
[04:55] <Jucato> michelle_: I'm presuming that the user that's having sound problems its the user that was created during installation?
[04:55] <Ashex> what's that fantastic command to reconfigure X?
[04:55] <Hawkwind> Ashex: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <Ashex> I upgraded my video card and it's wiggin' out on me
[04:55] <Ashex> thanks Hawkwind
[04:55] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i didn't konw there was one.  shows how dumb i am
[04:55] <Agios> michelle_: there are a number of groups you will want to be a member of besides audio.
[04:55] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Written by ozzzy in #LFD nonetheless :P
[04:56] <Ash-Fox> Jucato, God, 0.2, olde indeed.
[04:56] <nrdb> first time I check noone was there, maybe I spelt it wrong.
[04:56] <larson9999> Hawkwind: how long has that been out?
[04:56] <Hawkwind> larson9999: 2+ years now maybe
[04:56] <Agios> cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev would be a good start
[04:56] <larson9999> Hawkwind: lol.
[04:57] <Hawkwind> larson9999: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[04:57] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You'll see mine and Agios' nick both on the site as testers :P
[04:57] <Jucato> lol
[04:57] <Agios> heh
[04:58] <larson9999> Hawkwind: oh.  that's not the same app.  for a minute i thought it was the same app but a linux version.   but i will give it a go.
[04:58] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It's not much different, honestly
[04:59] <Hawkwind> larson9999: It works the same as the Windows version
[04:59] <josh__> what kind of error is this?
[04:59] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i trust you it's good.  you haven't steered me wrong yet
[04:59] <josh__> */home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c/install: line 7: ./version: No such file or directory
[04:59] <mx> how do i tell which xorg driver i'm using?
[04:59] <michelle_> Jucato:  Thanks for the help.  I'm login' out so the sys admin can add me to the audio group.
[04:59] <Jucato> michelle_: you can also thank Agios. I just butted in :-D
[05:00] <larson9999> Hawkwind: does the rpm do ok with alien or should i compile?
[05:00] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You'll probably want to compile it.  Not sure what deps you'll need as I've yet to use it on Kubuntu
[05:01] <larson9999> Hawkwind: good. i got a new burner i need to test out
[05:01] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You can also use k9copy which is a fantastic app as well.  I use it all the time too
[05:01] <Hawkwind> larson9999: k9copy is available via apt-get
[05:01] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i use k9copy but didn't have as much success with it as with dvdshrink
[05:02] <Agios> k9copy is what I use most of the time anymore
[05:02] <Agios> if it fails then I try dvdshrink
[05:02] <Agios> if dvdshrink fails I give up
[05:02] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Strange.  I've copied probably 350+ DVD's with k9copy and have had less than 5 fail.  Mainly due to too many scratches on the original
[05:03] <Agios> Hawkwind: hair gel :)
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Agios: Hah!  Same here. I figure by that time nothing will work and I don't need the DVD that bad
[05:03] <Silver_Adept> Impressive.
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Agios: I've gotten 2 or 3 to work using hair gel actually.   Okay, I'm curious now.
[05:04] <Hawkwind> I do also use the Windows version of dvdshrink on Liz's computer as I copy probably 20+ DVD's a week :)
[05:04] <Agios> cd/dvd scratches can often be overcome temporarily by applying hair gel to them
[05:04] <larson9999> Hawkwind: maybe i dorked something up but out of the first few i tried i couldn't shrink 3 with k9copy but could with dvdshrink.  that was a while back
[05:04] <Silver_Adept> ...this makes a surprising amount of sense.
[05:04] <Silver_Adept> Can either of you gurus help me with my microphone problem?
[05:05] <Silver_Adept> (Well, maybe more a sound system problem...)
[05:05] <Agios> Silver_Adept: I don't even have a mic :) But check your mixer settings.
[05:05] <michelle_> Jucato: That seemed to work for every thing except flash in swiftfox.    Do I need to try them again now that I am in the audio group?
[05:05] <josh__> can someone do a remote desktop plz?
[05:05] <Silver_Adept> Agios: Mixer's good and loud. When I blow into the mic, I can hear it.
[05:07] <josh__> someone do a remote desktop.
[05:07] <josh__> plz
[05:07] <josh__> ive been trying this for days
[05:07] <Silver_Adept> I just can't seem to be able to get any sound recording/Skype program to recognize it. Which is weird, because Teamspeak worked fine with it.
[05:07] <Jucato> michelle_: probably. but Flash in Linux really is a hit and miss sort of thing...
[05:07] <Agios> Silver_Adept: then what problem are you having?
[05:07] <larson9999> flash + ff + wine does pretty good for the flash that doesn't support linux
[05:07] <larson9999> if you must hit a site that doesn't support linux
[05:07] <Agios> michelle_: shut down the browser and try again. firefox often loses sound for me and that usually fixes it.
[05:08] <josh__> *almost crying in fustration*
[05:08] <Agios> Silver_Adept: make sure the ac97 slider is all the way up.
[05:08] <josh__> :O:O u got realtek drivers installed??????
[05:08] <michelle_> Jucato: If you are still here.  I tried the aoss fix and now everything seems to be working fine.  Thanks again for the help.
[05:08] <Agios> and play with the switch settings
[05:08] <josh__> i'm trying to do it right now, help me.
[05:09] <Jucato> michelle_: you better thank Agios too :-D
[05:09] <Silver_Adept> ...okay. Let me see if that works. - Although the problem is that often, ALSA complains of being busy with the input device.
[05:09] <mx> anyone know a 3d benchmarking program for kubuntu?
[05:09] <Agios> Jucato: I probably made her mad :)
[05:10] <Jucato> ehehe... sorry bout that Agios :-D
[05:10] <larson9999> well, agios is a bad word
[05:10] <larson9999> :)
[05:10] <Agios> hehe
[05:10] <Silver_Adept> Sorry, nothing doing on that, Agios. No sound cometh out. Error is: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."
[05:11] <Jucato> really? what does "agios" mean?
[05:11] <josh__> OMG!!!!!!!
[05:11] <josh__> i'm freaking out here!
[05:12] <larson9999> agios means "you rock"
[05:12] <Jucato> ...
[05:12] <Jucato> ^_^
[05:13] <larson9999> Hawkwind: it's installing now.  while is says it's installing is it really compiling?
[05:14] <josh__> who just installed realtek drivers???
[05:15] <Agios> Jucato: it's a Greek word meaning saint or holy.
[05:15] <Jucato> oh
[05:15] <larson9999> i was pretty close
[05:15] <Jucato> I hope you guys are not pulling my leg eheheh
[05:15] <Agios> LOL, I'm being truthful
[05:16] <josh__> silver_adept are u here?
[05:16] <Agios> it's actually `agios and pronounced with an h sound like hagios
[05:16] <Jucato> oooh ok
[05:16] <Silver_Adept> We exist. We do not know how to remote into your computer. Perhaps if you explained your problem, you could fine a solution.
[05:16] <josh__> k
[05:16] <josh__> i'm trying to install realtek drivers.
[05:17] <josh__> it seems like you have done it before
[05:17] <josh__> right?
[05:18] <Silver_Adept> Hrm? I have not installed any Realtek drivers.
[05:18] <josh__> ok well can you help
[05:18] <josh__> it says for automatic install type ./install'
[05:18] <Silver_Adept> Mm-hmm.
[05:18] <josh__> i'm guessing the . is the stuff before that
[05:18] <josh__> it keeps saying no file or directory
[05:19] <Silver_Adept> Are you in the directory where the driver files are?
[05:19] <josh__> ya
[05:19] <josh__> i unzipped it
[05:19] <Agios> josh__: make sure you are in the directory where the files are. There should be a file called install in that directory.
[05:19] <josh__> ya
[05:19] <Agios> then from there tyoe ./install
[05:19] <josh__> huh?
[05:19] <josh__> type ./install where?
[05:19] <Agios> you unzipped the archive and it created a directory
[05:20] <josh__> yes
[05:20] <Agios> cd into that directory
[05:20] <Silver_Adept> In the terminal/console window.
[05:20] <josh__> ok
[05:20] <Agios> ls to see if there is a file named "install"
[05:20] <Agios> there should be
[05:20] <josh__> ok so i should type cd /home/josh/Desktop/realtek-linux-audiopack-4.04c
[05:21] <josh__> WTF!!
[05:21] <Agios> I suppose
[05:21] <josh__> HOW IS IT THAT SIMPLE!
[05:21] <Silver_Adept> Linux can be like that.
[05:21] <josh__> oh wait
[05:21] <josh__> make didn't work
[05:21] <josh__> oh isn't there some package i need installed in order to use make?
[05:22] <Agios> yep
[05:22] <josh__> which one is it
[05:22] <Agios> sudo apt-get install build-essencial
[05:22] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: What audio chip do you have?  (I just joined, missed the start)
[05:22] <larson9999> build-essential?
[05:22] <r3sil3> Hellooo guys
[05:22] <josh__> i have realtek hd audio
[05:22] <Agios> yeah, pardon my spelling
[05:22] <r3sil3> can someone help me install a program? im new to this
[05:23] <Agios> apt-get install build-essential
[05:23] <Agios> r3sil3: what program?
[05:23] <r3sil3> I am trying to install KMLDonkey
[05:23] <josh__> ok then it should work
[05:23] <r3sil3> i downloaded the file using ark
[05:23] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: Ya, thats its generic name, but whats the chip?
[05:23] <josh__> no clue lol
[05:23] <r3sil3> what motherboard josh?
[05:24] <Mr_Flibble> josh__: does lspci give any hint at the audio?
[05:24] <josh__> if u want to look it up i have a gigabyte ga-k8n51gmf-9
[05:24] <r3sil3> so its an amd machine
[05:24] <r3sil3> its probably realtek ac'97
[05:24] <r3sil3> nothign special
[05:24] <jessica__> ANYONE FROM FLORIDA AREA
[05:24] <josh__> no its not ac'97
[05:24] <r3sil3> k8n51 is onboard geforce 6100 right?
[05:24] <josh__> yes
[05:24] <josh__> but with nforce 430
[05:24] <r3sil3> yes, its regular realtek bro
[05:24] <r3sil3> i have that board
[05:24] <josh__> wtf
[05:25] <josh__> k wiat
[05:25] <r3sil3> yea its 430 and 6150
[05:25] <josh__> no
[05:25] <josh__> no
[05:25] <josh__> 430 and 6100
[05:25] <r3sil3> hrmm
[05:25] <Agios> r3sil3: sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[05:25] <josh__> gigabyte mixed it up
[05:25] <r3sil3> thanks agios
[05:25] <josh__> ya its wierd
[05:25] <r3sil3> yea they did
[05:25] <r3sil3> weird
[05:25] <crimsun> ac'97 is a spec. HDA is the updated version of said spec. There's usually just one DSP for that spec's implementation, but there are a variety of codecs for both ac'97 and HDA.
[05:25] <r3sil3> r3sil3@r3sil3-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kmldonkey
[05:25] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[05:25] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree...  I find it.
[05:26] <r3sil3> thank you agios
[05:27] <Agios> jessica__: there are a lot of people from Florida. Just not here :)
[05:27] <r3sil3> I love this 4 desktop thing
[05:27] <josh__> here is my mobo
[05:27] <josh__> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=1939
[05:27] <crimsun> josh__: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat . What's the issue anyhow?
[05:28] <jessica__> ok
[05:29] <josh__> ok
[05:29] <josh__> wow
[05:29] <r3sil3> Realtek Azalia HD
[05:29] <r3sil3> thats waht you have
[05:29] <r3sil3> lol
[05:29] <josh__> so many errors flying through
[05:29] <r3sil3> i dono past that
[05:29] <r3sil3> ahaha
[05:29] <r3sil3> nice board
[05:29] <crimsun> "Azalia" is the codename for the HDA spec.
[05:29] <r3sil3> i have a geforce 6100-m7 biostar
[05:29] <josh__> oh i should run as root lmfao
[05:29] <r3sil3> on a sempron
[05:29] <r3sil3> its a piece
[05:29] <crimsun> you don't need to be root.
[05:29] <josh__> i have that board with a 3000+
[05:29] <r3sil3> but my Core 2 Duo 6600 is coming monday :)
[05:30] <r3sil3> along wtih an Asus DH Deluxe
[05:30] <josh__> clocked to 2.5ghz *puts on sunglasses*
[05:30] <r3sil3> and 2GB of Team Memory
[05:31] <r3sil3> ok i have a question
[05:31] <r3sil3> When i type
[05:31] <r3sil3> sudo apt-get install "program
[05:31] <r3sil3> I get
[05:31] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[05:31] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:31] <r3sil3> E: Couldn't find package kmldonkey
[05:31] <r3sil3> what repositories have to be changeed?
[05:31] <crimsun> !info kmldonkey
[05:31] <ubotu> kmldonkey: KDE GUI for MLDonkey. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 885 kB, installed size 3036 kB
[05:31] <crimsun> >> In component universe
[05:31] <josh__> ok
[05:31] <josh__> i got a couple things that said command not found during the installation
[05:32] <josh__> does that mean it didn't install right?
[05:32] <crimsun> josh__: did you type ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''?
[05:32] <r3sil3> im confused
[05:32] <Agios> r3sil3: flood coming
[05:32] <r3sil3> ok
[05:33] <josh__> why would i type that
[05:33] <josh__> what's it for
[05:33] <Agios> that's my sources list
[05:33] <crimsun> josh__: it tells you the HDA codec used
[05:33] <crimsun> josh__: different HDA codecs have different troubleshooting steps
[05:33] <josh__> realtek ALC880
[05:34] <josh__> does that mean the driver is installed???
[05:34] <r3sil3> im SO CONFUSED agios
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: are you running the latest Ubuntu kernel?
[05:34] <r3sil3> ill show you mine
[05:34] <josh__> umm pretty sure
[05:34] <josh__> how do i check
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: _a_ driver is installed, yes.
[05:34] <josh__> how do i check what kernel version i have
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: ``dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk "{ print $3 }"''
[05:35] <r3sil3> AGIOS
[05:35] <r3sil3> MINE ARE SET AT DEFAULT
[05:35] <r3sil3> IM ON KUBUNTU
[05:35] <Agios> r3sil3: replace /etc/apt/sources.list with that.  You're not copying and pasting the command I'm giving you.
[05:36] <josh__> ya i did
[05:36] <crimsun> you need it verbatim
[05:37] <crimsun> don't omit anything:  dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[05:37] <josh__> oh i missed one of the '
[05:37] <dr_willis>  :)
[05:37] <josh__> all that came up was 2.6.15-26.46
[05:37] <larson9999> more than that
[05:37] <josh__> so is my kernel good?
[05:38] <crimsun> good, so you're running the latest available kernel. I've submitted additional changes into the upcoming Ubuntu kernel.
[05:38] <josh__> sik
[05:38] <crimsun> The next release should fix your issue.
[05:38] <josh__> ok well the driver is installed, reboot?
[05:38] <josh__> well i'm pretty sure the driver is installed
[05:38] <josh__> i'll reboot now
[05:38] <josh__> brb
[05:38] <crimsun> it's not going to help unless you compile 1.0.12 from alsa-project.
[05:38] <josh__> huh?
[05:39] <josh__> how do i do that then
[05:39] <josh__> or are u still talking to me
[05:39] <Silver_Adept> Would I need to compile the latest alsa-project devices as well to make my microphone actually record?
[05:39] <josh__> ooh ok
[05:39] <crimsun> there's an excellent how-to for compiling sound drivers on the ubuntu forum
[05:39] <josh__> brb everyone
[05:39] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: depends which codec you use
[05:40] <Silver_Adept> Codec, crimsun? I don't understand.
[05:40] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[05:40] <crimsun> (what's the output?)
[05:40] <Silver_Adept> Output: Mixers: 0: SigmaTel STAC9708,11
[05:41] <larson9999> Hawkwind: dvdshrink is just sitting there saying it's installing files.  been a long time now
[05:41] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: which dsp is used, the emu10k?
[05:41] <Silver_Adept> Should be. It's an SBLive! 5.1
[05:41] <crimsun> then recording should work just fine. Pastebin your ``amixer''.
[05:41] <Silver_Adept> Pastebin? Is that a specific command?
[05:41] <crimsun> see the topic.
[05:42] <crimsun>  Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:43] <Silver_Adept> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21685 , if you please.
[05:43] <josh__> OMG!!!!
[05:43] <josh__> ok it said on boot
[05:43] <josh__> xine was unable to load audio drivers
[05:45] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: your Capture control element is muted.
[05:45] <crimsun> you should be able to use Kmix to fix that
[05:45] <Silver_Adept> Even with Capture unmuted, sound does not record.
[05:45] <josh__> ok why is this so effing retarted
[05:45] <crimsun> from what, the mic? Did you unmute the mic boost?
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Attempts to use Sound Recorder and Skype have both failed in silence.
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Muted mic boost?
[05:46] <crimsun> did you toggle the mic input?
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Yes.
[05:46] <crimsun> you have two mic inputs
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Two inputs?
[05:46] <crimsun> yes
[05:46] <crimsun> Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
[05:46] <Silver_Adept> Labels?
[05:47] <crimsun> I presume you've followed the emu10k mixer controls page under 'Alsa Drivers' on the alsa wiki?
[05:47] <Silver_Adept> If I change the "Mic Select" option in KMix, the microphone does not give me ambient noise.
[05:47] <whytxtacy> thanks fa the help got it up an runnin
[05:48] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - perusing said document.
[05:48] <whytxtacy> can anyone tell me if i can download yahoo messanger on this prog
[05:48] <crimsun> whytxtacy: does Kopete not suffice? (Yes, you can, but it doesn't integrate well if at all.)
[05:49] <dr_willis> whytxtacy,  GAIM is a good alternative for that.
[05:49] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - I do not know if I have the right document. Do you have a handy link?
[05:49] <whytxtacy> ok thanks
[05:49] <whytxtacy> im sorry im new to this program
[05:50] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: see the header section of http://alsa.opensrc.org/emu10k1
[05:50] <dr_willis> you mean 'operating system' :)
[05:50] <glick> hey doesnt kwlanmanager allow for the use of WPA?
[05:50] <glick> it says wep but i dont use wep
[05:51] <glick> i use wpa
[05:51] <larson9999> Agios: that xdvdshrink install script is hanging on copying the testfifo file to /usr/bin.  what the heck is testfifo?
[05:52] <glick> kde keeps frustrating me
[05:52] <glick> it looks pretty but its unstable
[05:52] <josh__> same
[05:52] <Agios> a test script to test his fifo. he actually uses 2 I think.
[05:52] <glick> for me at least
[05:52] <Agios> larson9999: but it's just trying to copy the script, not run it :)
[05:52] <dr_willis> i cant recall any problems with kde.
[05:52] <dr_willis> at least not in the last year or so. :P
[05:52] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - many apologies, but I do not understand the document at all...
[05:52] <Agios> larson9999: why is it hanging?
[05:53] <glick> its very buggy
[05:53] <dionyziz> img src="http://a.deviantart.com/avatars/d/i/dionyziz.gif"
[05:53] <crimsun> josh__: do you need me to walk you through installing 1.0.12?
[05:53] <dionyziz> <img src="" />
[05:53] <dr_willis> very buggy... and i havent noticed any.. oh well.
[05:53] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: the sblive mixer controls pages should explain what each enumerated control element does
[05:53] <josh__> yessss
[05:53] <dr_willis> life is buggy. :P
[05:54] <josh__> i'm dying here
[05:54] <josh__> omg
[05:54] <larson9999> Agios: i don't know.  it was just hanging on the copy part so a did the copy manually.  all the files copied over but when i tried to copy testfifo it just hung.  it has a p where the d usually is in an ls -l.  what does that mean?
[05:54] <josh__> i have no sound now
[05:54] <crimsun> josh__: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[05:54] <glick> does anyone know how in kde i can connect to a wpa protected wireless netowkr
[05:54] <glick> ?
[05:54] <Agios> means it's a pipe, jsut ignore it. It shouldn't have been art of the package.
[05:55] <glick> kwlanassistant isnt hellpng me
[05:55] <guillermo> hi, i new here, i have a problem with python on ubuntu, i try these len('n') and it return 3
[05:55] <crimsun> josh__: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2
[05:55] <larson9999> Agios: ok.  i just removed it and the install went ok.  we'll see if it works!
[05:55] <crimsun> Zamboulie: please keep it in here.
[05:55] <Agios> larson9999: great
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ok
[05:56] <Zamboulie> why cna't we just pm?
[05:56] <dr_willis> PM causes cooties.
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ur the doctor
[05:56] <Zamboulie> lol
[05:56] <baoji> hey folks... I'm trying out kubuntu for the first time; the installer hangs, no matter what I do, at step 6 (final partition before install)
[05:56] <Zamboulie> ok its installed
[05:57] <guillermo> hi, i am new here, i have a problem with python in ubuntu
[05:57] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - having a slightly more difficult problem than that as well. My two standard errors when attempting to record sound are "ALSA is busy" or "Mixer Settings are incorrect."
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: did you download the 1.0.12 tarball, too?
[05:58] <Zamboulie> umm i don't think so
[05:58] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: that shouldn't happen with the emu10ks. Which apps are throwing those errors
[05:58] <Zamboulie> what's this all for anyways
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: scroll up; I gave you the command
[05:58] <Zamboulie> oh ya
[05:58] <crimsun> Zamboulie: you need a newer sound driver, so you have to compile it
[05:58] <Zamboulie> i did that command
[05:58] <Zamboulie> i thought that was the kernel one
[05:58] <Zamboulie> which i already did
[05:59] <Zamboulie> anyways now what
[05:59] <crimsun> Zamboulie: the one from realtek or the one from alsa-project?
[05:59] <Silver_Adept> The "Incorrent configuration error" is KDE's Sound Recorder. Which, naturally, seems to be behaving, although not actually recording any sound.
[05:59] <Zamboulie> uhh i got the realtek driver
[05:59] <Silver_Adept> The "busy" is gstreamer-properties.
[05:59] <crimsun> Zamboulie: that's the prelim version of the alsa one.
[05:59] <Zamboulie> so now what
[06:00] <Silver_Adept> ...which at the moment, also appears to be behaving.
[06:00] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: shouldn't be busy; you should be able to execute multiple concurrent aplays and arecords just fine
[06:00] <Silver_Adept> Crimsun - yeah, they're behaving right now. But I'm still getting nothing on playback.
[06:00] <guillermo> HI, i need help!!!
[06:00] <crimsun> Zamboulie: slow down - I can only type so fast, particularly when addressing multiple people
[06:00] <Zamboulie> sry
[06:01] <baoji> anyone know how the kubuntu installation works? I'm happy to set up partitioning myself if someone can suggest a command to run after I've done so...
[06:01] <crimsun> Zamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.12
[06:01] <SpAwN> baoji, are u installing off the live version?
[06:01] <Zamboulie> no such file or directory
[06:01] <baoji> SpAwN: yes, I am
[06:01] <SpAwN> baoji, thats the problem
[06:02] <crimsun> Zamboulie: I thought you said you downloaded it.
[06:02] <SpAwN> i hope u didnt have any valuable info
[06:02] <Zamboulie> ya i just realized that lmao
[06:02] <baoji> SpAwN: I'm installing on a blank drive :)
[06:02] <SpAwN> baoji, good =D it hosed my partions 2 times in a row
[06:02] <Zamboulie> wow this is confusing
[06:02] <baoji> SpAwN: so what should I get instead: the Alternate Version?
[06:03] <SpAwN> baoji, u can either dl the other version...or do what i did...install it using "text mode"
[06:03] <SpAwN> the text mode install went realy good....partion didnt messs up
[06:03] <baoji> SpAwN: I'm v. comfortable in text mode... how do I get there?
[06:03] <shane_> !xgl
[06:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:04] <SpAwN> baoji, are you using a live dvd or live cd?
[06:04] <baoji> SpAwN: cd
[06:04] <SpAwN> baoji, then u will have to re dl it...as im pretty sure its not on the cd
[06:04] <SpAwN> u can check
[06:05] <SpAwN> reboot....if it promts u for a options to boot....see if there is a text mode
[06:05] <Zamboulie> okok now it says ~/alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c$
[06:05] <Zamboulie> now do i type ./install?
[06:05] <SpAwN> reboot to the cd tha is....
[06:05] <baoji> SpAwN: ah, of course... I'll give that a go. thanks for giving me hope :)
[06:05] <SpAwN> baoji, np.....but im 99% sure the cd doesnt have it
[06:05] <crimsun> Zamboulie: um... that's the realtek stuff. Why are you messing with that instead of the alsa-driver-1.0.12 I specifically mentioned?
[06:05] <Zamboulie> i was following ur instructions
[06:06] <baoji> SpAwN: the alternate version then... good stuff
[06:06] <SpAwN> yup
[06:06] <Zamboulie> and look above
[06:06] <Zamboulie> it clearly says alsa-driver...
[06:06] <crimsun> Zamboulie: my instructions are for alsa-driver-1.0.12, not alsa-driver-1.0.11-4.04c
[06:06] <baoji> SpAwN: thanks so much!
[06:06] <shane_> you guys mind if I ask some questions about xgl and compiz?
[06:06] <SpAwN> baoji, np man
[06:06] <Zamboulie> k wait wait a sec
[06:06] <Zamboulie> lets just pm
[06:06] <crimsun> Zamboulie: (in each instance I've specifically stated alsa-driver-1.0.12)
[06:07] <Zamboulie> sry i'm really frigging stupid
[06:07] <shane_> no one is home at the #ubuntu-xgl room
[06:07] <Silver_Adept> Oh, wait, wait.... whoooo! It works! Thank you, Crimsun!
[06:07] <Zamboulie> i'm only 16 with adhd so i never know whats goiing on
[06:07] <crimsun> Silver_Adept: np.
[06:07] <Silver_Adept> Your magical powers are great and legendary... and it's rather funny, I just fiddled some options, 'tis all. Thanks for your patience.
[06:08] <DFM> zamboulie:1st stop trashing yourself Linux takes time and I still have yet to get a clue so don't feel bad.
[06:08] <Zamboulie> lol
[06:09] <shane_>  I just installed XGL with AutomatixBleeder. Everything seemed to go well but when I started an XGL session there is no XGL. How can I tell I got things done correct?
[06:09] <Zamboulie> its after midnight i gues i'm tired
[06:10] <Zamboulie> ok ya i did something wrong here
[06:10] <Zamboulie> the alsa driver, where do i get it'
[06:10] <Zamboulie> because i mixed something up with what u said
[06:10] <crimsun> Zamboulie: wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2
[06:11] <DFM> zam:I forgot to mention I have been fooling around with Linux for just over 3 years and it wasn't until I discovered Debian that I wanted to learn more and now that I am using Ubuntu I want to abandon Window's.
[06:11] <Zamboulie> same here
[06:11] <Zamboulie> but i play fear and stuff so i still need it
[06:11] <Zamboulie> and all my pictures and music is there
[06:12] <DFM> I have yet to swith to PCIexpress but I do game and will keep win for that
[06:12] <Zamboulie> ya
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i only have a 7300gs
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i overclocked it till it artifacted but still isn't good enough
[06:12] <Zamboulie> i also pumped my cpu from 1.8 to 2.5ghz
[06:12] <Zamboulie> stock cooling and everything
[06:13] <SpAwN> play et on linux....best game ever
[06:13] <SpAwN> and its made for linux...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> xmoto !
[06:13] <shane_> SpAwN et?
[06:13] <larson9999> fish fillets is the best game every
[06:13] <SpAwN> wolfenstien:eney territory
[06:13] <SpAwN> *enemy
[06:13] <Zamboulie> i have guild wars on this
[06:13] <Zamboulie> beat that everyone
[06:14] <DFM> quit it you guys ur making me itch to fragg someone!!!!!!!
[06:14] <larson9999> or m.u.l.e. and you can run that on two tin cans and a thing of dental floss
[06:14] <SpAwN> i play cs and css on linx to..but use cedgea
[06:14] <shane_> SpAwN ahh ok I have been looking for a decent game. I may just say screw the XGL
[06:14] <SpAwN> shane_, xgl breaks everything
[06:14] <SpAwN> not worth it in imo
[06:15] <shane_> SpAwN I installed it but nothing happens. How can I make sure to get rid of it? I have never uninstalled anything before .. yet
[06:15] <larson9999> i'm so far behind on games that my next in line is duke nukem 3d
[06:15] <SpAwN> shane_, well just last week i went to install xgl...installed like 5 packages for it......then decided not to install it...and it TOTALY messed up
[06:16] <SpAwN> lol
[06:16] <SpAwN> larson9999, your in for a good surpise...duke nukem pwns
[06:16] <larson9999> pwns?
[06:16] <SpAwN> owns........
[06:16] <DFM> well Larson I still get a kick out of Pac-Man
[06:16] <glick> hey does anyone have a dlink wirless card?
[06:16] <shane_> SpAwN so how would I uninstall XGL and compiz?
[06:16] <Zamboulie> ok crimsun i'm up to speed now
[06:16] <glick> does it work with linux?
[06:17] <larson9999> SpAwN: oh.  actually i think that started a trend i don't like... the gun on the side angle.
[06:17] <SpAwN> shane_, f'ed if i know
[06:17] <DFM> glick: yes
[06:17] <crimsun> Zamboulie: tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.12.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.12
[06:17] <shane_> SpAwN and this dang smooth font crap too ( I used automatixbleeder)
[06:17] <glick> DFM: the dlink wireless cards work with linux?
[06:17] <SpAwN> larson9999, hehe
[06:17] <Zamboulie> ya i did that
[06:17] <DFM> glick: some do
[06:17] <SpAwN> i just remeber being a little kid and finding the tittie bar in duke nukem
[06:17] <larson9999> lol
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:17] <SpAwN> u hit space bar and they take there tops off
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I cant even get Duke Nukem to work any more.
[06:18] <DFM> glick: get a DWL-G650 it works out of the box.
[06:18] <SpAwN> Dr_Willis, i had it running in linux
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> i found the old cd in a box a few weeks ago.
[06:18] <SpAwN> Dr_Willis, they have ported it im pretty sure
[06:18] <Silver_Adept> Anyway, thanks again, crimsun.
[06:18] <SpAwN> ...but this was many bong hits ago
[06:18] <SpAwN> so i forget :P
[06:18] <DFM> glick: Lights flash kind of funky but other than that it took right off
[06:18] <glick> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7843701&type=product&id=1142298456843
[06:19] <glick> thats the one im thinking about
[06:19] <crimsun> Zamboulie: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-sequencer=yes --with-pcm-oss-plugins=yes --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[06:19] <larson9999> i have 200+ games on cd here i haven't played.  had another 200+ on floppy but i sold most of them.  no time to play
[06:19] <Zamboulie> what the hell
[06:19] <SpAwN>  i dled redneck rampage the other day...couldnt get it working wine
[06:19] <Zamboulie> yay
[06:19] <SpAwN> good old school funny game
[06:19] <Zamboulie> its working
[06:20] <Zamboulie> ok i did the command
[06:20] <crimsun> Zamboulie: make && sudo make install
[06:20] <SpAwN> went to a demolition derby tonight....still got clumps of mud on me.......it was great
[06:20] <Zamboulie> so this driver is for my chip right?
[06:21] <SpAwN> some sloppy racing
[06:21] <DFM> glick: You had better check to see if it's compatable. I doubt any N series is going to work right now but I may be wrong.
[06:21] <crimsun> Zamboulie: both of them, yes.
[06:21] <Zamboulie> good
[06:21] <Zamboulie> ok reboot now?
[06:21] <crimsun> has it already finished?
[06:21] <Zamboulie> yes
[06:21] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, sudo depmod -e
[06:22] <shane_> ahh suddenly xgl and compiz work. barely
[06:22] <Zamboulie> done
[06:22] <DFM> Someone else might know. I just know that I chose a card off the list after trying in vain to get one of the 4 I had to work.
[06:22] <shane_> whats the command to rotate the cube?
[06:22] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^filename
[06:22] <Zamboulie> am i supposed to change ^filename
[06:23] <crimsun> no, type it precisely and tell us the output
[06:23] <Zamboulie> filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:23] <crimsun> Zamboulie: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:24] <crimsun> (and tell us the output)
[06:24] <Zamboulie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24392 2006-08-26 00:21 /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[06:24] <crimsun> ok, good. Now pastebin ``lsmod |grep ^snd''
[06:25] <Zamboulie> so do ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' then tell u the output
[06:25] <Zamboulie> ?
[06:25] <Zamboulie> or are u talking to me?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> use pastebin.com - post it there. :)
[06:25] <crimsun> don't paste the output here; put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <Zamboulie> ok
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> or some other. :P
[06:25] <Zamboulie> so the command is exactly ``lsmod |grep ^snd'' with the quotations
[06:26] <crimsun> yes
[06:29] <larson9999> i wish i was a hacker so i could make use of this dvt
[06:29] <jbeagley> hey
[06:29] <larson9999> dvr
[06:29] <Zamboulie> heeyah
[06:29] <Zamboulie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21688
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Heh - i haxored my DVR by flashing/updating its bios from a hacked one i found on the internet. :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> No more of that silly macromedia (or whatever the #(#( its called) protection on it now.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> macrovision?
[06:30] <crimsun> Zamboulie: sudo modprobe -r snd_pcm_oss && lsmod |grep ^snd
[06:30] <jbeagley> my computer crashed, i reset it, and now when i try to log in to my normal non-root account through the GUI, it tells me it doesn't have access to my home directory
[06:30] <Zamboulie> done
[06:31] <larson9999> Dr_Willis: i bought a scientific atlanta explorer 8300 for $5 but it can't use it :(
[06:31] <crimsun> Zamboulie: what was the output?
[06:31] <Zamboulie> nothing
[06:31] <Zamboulie> just went down to the next line
[06:31] <crimsun> good. Now, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[06:31] <Zamboulie> i heard crackling!
[06:32] <Zamboulie> yay!
[06:32] <charles1952> Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories.
[06:32] <crimsun> Zamboulie: now, pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:34] <Zamboulie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21689
[06:34] <charles1952> Zamboulie: Thank you very much!!!
[06:34] <Zamboulie> oh lol ur welcome
[06:35] <Zamboulie> don't include the number though
[06:35] <crimsun> Zamboulie: aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav
[06:35] <charles1952> Zamboulie: So I see!
[06:36] <Zamboulie> that sounded cool
[06:36] <crimsun> what did?
[06:36] <Zamboulie> the sound
[06:36] <crimsun> ok, then problem resolved.
[06:37] <Zamboulie> reboot??
[06:37] <crimsun> why reboot?
[06:37] <crimsun> your system works just fine
[06:37] <Zamboulie> well kmix hasn't detected anything
[06:37] <crimsun> then log out of KDE and back in
[06:37] <Zamboulie> oh oki
[06:37] <Zamboulie> i luvs you!
[06:39] <dek> I am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?
[06:39] <charles1952> Hello all...Newbie here...could someone point me to a URL where I could copy a recent and functional sources.list for US or EU repositories. Could not find a good sources.list on the site he suggested.
[06:40] <Zamboulie> ok anyone need help?
[06:41] <dek> me :P
[06:41] <charles1952> Yes...couldn't find a sources.list on the url you suggested...and other sites that you could recommend?
[06:41] <dek> I paste: I am trying to configure Samba to make a network with my other PC using Windows XP, i have a switch (not a router) and I can't get Samba to work, any help?
[06:41] <vinicri> how do i change desktop resolution on kubutu
[06:42] <Zamboulie> brb
[06:42] <Zamboulie> and click kmenu
[06:42] <Zamboulie> system settings > display
[06:42] <Zamboulie> if you cant change the resolution you don't have a driver installed for ur video card
[06:43] <httpdss> dek: how did you configure your smb ??
[06:43] <larson9999> why doesn't kcontrol appear on the kmenu by default?  or does it and i'm just too big a moron to find it?
[06:43] <vinicri> brb?
[06:44] <dek> httpdss: i followed this HOW TO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[06:48] <Zamboulie> i have absolutely NO bass
[06:48] <Zamboulie> its just treble
[06:48] <Zamboulie> thats why i was trying to install the realtek drivers
[06:48] <Zamboulie> i ended up reinstalling the alsa ones....fuck
[06:48] <obf213> !wmv
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:49] <Zamboulie> oh i have no audio when i watch videos in google video
[06:50] <SpAwN> Zamboulie, somthing is probly using the sound device...maby try killall artsd then restart the web browser
[06:50] <SpAwN> i have to do that every once in a while
[06:50] <httpdss> dek: check connection between the 2 machines with a ping... can they see themselves ?
[06:51] <Zamboulie> no
[06:51] <Zamboulie> i'm pretty sure there is just no code
[06:51] <Zamboulie> codec
[06:51] <SpAwN> !restricted
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <crimsun> Zamboulie: the flash issue is well-known
[06:52] <Zamboulie> what
[06:52] <Zamboulie> i can run flash
[06:53] <Zamboulie> but i have no sound in flash either
[06:55] <dek> httpdss: I pinged <IP_ADDRESS> (my other PC), seems they can't see each other
[06:55] <dek> I want to set the IP of my Kubuntu to <IP_ADDRESS> but I can't find a way to do that
[06:56] <httpdss> sudo ifconfig eth0 inet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:56] <dek> cool
[06:57] <dek> now ping seems to work
[06:57] <httpdss> the console way :P ... else go to System Settings and under network settings youll find the way out
[06:57] <faked_> In Ktorrent, I forwarded to the default ports but I'm still getting like NO speed at all, what's the problem here?
[06:58] <pidg30n> Have you limited the upload speed at all?
[06:58] <faked_> No
[06:58] <faked_> I don't limit UL speeds
[06:58] <dek> httpdss I love you xD now samba works, thanks
[06:58] <pidg30n> :-)
[06:58] <dek> I spent days trying to figure this out :P
[06:58] <faked_> well I need this torrent
[06:58] <httpdss> dek: no prob !
[06:58] <faked_> it WAS DLing... now it's just not working
[06:59] <faked_> okay now it's dling 4 kbs... it's been jumping on and off like this since it started
[06:59] <larson9999> wth?  vista is going to require signed drivers for the 64bit version?  lol
[06:59] <faked_> does anyone have ANY idea how to make it more consistent?
[07:00] <httpdss> dek: that ip will get unassiged once you reboot. you need to get your network settings permanent
[07:01] <faked_> ... come on, someone answer me, PLEASE?!
[07:01] <dek> httpdss: how do I do that?
[07:01] <durper287> sorry, haven't worked with bittorent
[07:01] <httpdss> dek: easy way is  through network settings ... else console way would be to modify /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <faked_> how do you live, torrents rock >_> ...when they work
[07:02] <durper287> so do newsgroups
[07:02] <Jucato> lol
[07:02] <faked_> newsgroups? psht
[07:03] <dek> httpdss: when I go to network settings and enable "Manual" with my new IP, it says Default Gateway Ip is invalid
[07:04] <dek> what do I put in gateway IP?
[07:09] <httpdss_> dek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21690    <--- thats how your /etc/network/interfaces should look like ... (on a "normal" situation)
[07:09] <dek> ok
[07:09] <dek> you from Uruguay?
[07:09] <dek> xD
[07:09] <soulrider> httpdss_:  :O
[07:10] <dek> :O
[07:10] <soulrider> ya somos 3 :P
[07:10] <dek> si :P
[07:10] <soulrider> !offtopic
[07:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:10] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[07:10] <httpdss_> me yes :P
[07:10] <Jucato> :-D
[07:10] <dek> :O que coincidencia :P
[07:11] <soulrider> si
[07:11] <httpdss_> jajaja ... en cualquier momento nos rajan a todos :)
[07:11] <dek> xDD
[07:11] <soulrider> !offtopic
[07:11] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:11] <dek> no puedo creer, encontrarse con otro uruguayo ac, parece joda :P
[07:11] <dek> soulrider es amigo xD
[07:11] <soulrider> vamos al offtopic o nos corren :/
[07:12] <dek> ok xD
[07:12] <shawn___> hi
[07:12] <mx__> si senorita :p
[07:12] <dek> :P
[07:12] <shawn___> has anyone in here upgraded to edgy? is it worth the hassle?
[07:12] <Jucato> shawn___: not yet
[07:12] <Jucato> unless you want to test it
[07:12] <Jucato> Edgy will be released on October
[07:13] <shawn___> alright because I was using dapper like 2 months before the final
[07:13] <Jucato> well, Edgy is more edgy than Dapper, even at this stage
[07:13] <shawn___> how has it be for stability?
[07:14] <Jucato> well, from what I've heard, it's pretty usable, but not as your main OS
[07:15] <shawn___> oh ok... I guess I'll wait then... I have to have something stable for programming
[07:16] <Jucato> and even when Edgy comes around, it "might" be just a tad bit less stable than Dapper, AFAIK.
[07:16] <Jucato> Edgy
[07:16] <Jucato> Edgy's focus is on bleeding edge, I think
[07:17] <soulrider> Jucato: is edgy, thats why :P
[07:17] <Jucato> eheheh
[07:23] <Martijn81> faked_: try KTorrent 2.0.1, it's much faster and has many issues fixed
[07:26] <flaccid> can you install ktorrent by apt-get
[07:26] <soulrider> yes
[07:26] <soulrider> but i suggets you get the latest deb from their site
[07:26] <soulrider> version 2.0.1
[07:26] <flaccid> oh its already installed
[07:26] <Jucato> ey
[07:26] <Jucato> KTorrent 2.0.1 is now available in dapper-backports
[07:27] <flaccid> 1.2-0ubuntu5 looks old
[07:27] <flaccid> us backports a source?
[07:27] <flaccid> is
[07:27] <Jucato> yep. it's already in sources.list, just need to enable it
[07:28] <flaccid> thanks
[07:28] <Jucato> deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:28] <flaccid> that the only one i need
[07:28] <Drenhead> I'm having problems trying to change to the linux-686 kernel.  when I do, my mouse and keyboard stop working.  Am I missing something?
[07:30] <abattoir> Drenhead: do you have the corresponding linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[07:33] <Drenhead> I just pasted a screenshot of what I have installed
[07:33] <Drenhead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21691
[07:47] <[Nige] > hi all
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone
[08:03] <Drenhead> abattoir:  have you had a chance to look at the screenshot I posted?
[08:26] <Kai> 221 users. and not the one person asking a question. Wow. so different in the early mornings
[08:26] <Jucato> lol
[08:26] <Jucato> there are 222 nicks, but 200 of them barely say anything :-D
[08:27] <Kai> 222 now, only since tn3270 joined.
[08:27] <tn3270> *wave*
[08:27] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:27] <tn3270> hehe
[08:28] <Kai> but true, most that are here now are just idlers, or helpers that are sleeping or have no questions to answer.
[08:28] <tn3270> you guys take qns?
[08:28] <tn3270> i am trying to get rid of the irritating apt messages
[08:29] <tn3270> i upgraded form breezy to dapper
[08:29] <tn3270> *from
[08:29] <Jucato> Kai: some are developers :-D
[08:29] <Kai> if you have a question, someone probably has an answer
[08:29] <Kai> whats the message?
[08:29] <tn3270> ah ok
[08:29] <Kai> ive done that
[08:29] <tn3270> they refer to the breezy cd
[08:29] <tn3270> i changed the apt sources list
[08:30] <Jucato> tn3270: did you remove the line that has "cdrom" in it?
[08:30] <tn3270> it is just irritating, can i remove the entry for the cd
[08:30] <tn3270> not yet
[08:30] <Jucato> tn3270: open up Adept (K Menu > System > Adept)
[08:30] <Kai> yea, you can do without the cdrom soure
[08:30] <tn3270> ah ok
[08:30] <Kai> *source
[08:30] <tn3270> i was afraid it would break something
[08:31] <tn3270> thx for the help
[08:31] <Kai> not at all. i dont use the cd source ever. pain in the ass
[08:31] <tn3270> i'll go try
[08:31] <Kai> so i just removed it
[08:31] <tn3270> ah
[08:31] <tn3270> k, canother interesting qn
[08:31] <Jucato> ?
[08:31] <tn3270> can i remove the desktop
[08:31] <tn3270> totally
[08:32] <tn3270> ie get rid of kde-desktop
[08:32] <tn3270> or whatever desktop
[08:32] <Jucato> huh?
[08:32] <tn3270> i mean don't install the gui
[08:32] <Jucato> oh
[08:32] <Jucato> hmm...
[08:32] <Kai> for a server, yes
[08:32] <Jucato> yeah
[08:32] <tn3270> hmm
[08:32] <Kai> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[08:32] <tn3270> apt-get deinstall kde ?
[08:32] <tn3270> ah
[08:33] <tn3270> remove
[08:33] <tn3270> thks
[08:33] <Jucato> Kai: that will only remove "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:33] <Jucato> that won't work
[08:33] <Kai> its a metapackage so it removes everything associate
[08:33] <Kai> d
[08:33] <Jucato> no
[08:33] <redblades> Wait, I thought you had to use Aptitude to do that... ?
[08:33] <Jucato> Kai: it won't do that
[08:33] <tn3270> interesting
[08:33] <Jucato> it will only uninstall the kubuntu-desktop pakage and only that
[08:33] <tn3270> i am contemplating chaging to xfce
[08:33] <tn3270> *hides*
[08:34] <Jucato> no problem with that tn3270
[08:34] <Kai> trust me, i had a hard enough time first time i moved from gnome to kde, ubuntu-desktop wanted to take most of the stuff i wanted kept with it
[08:34] <tn3270> hmm
[08:34] <Jucato> Kai: trust me, you can try doing it yourself now
[08:34] <Jucato> and see what it will remove
[08:34] <tn3270> i tried that on breezy, I think I broke x
[08:34] <Kai> Jucato, no thanks. Im using my KDE ;P
[08:35] <ironfroggy> any idea whats going on if scrolling with the right edge of my touchpad just stops randomly during a session and works again after a restart?
[08:35] <tn3270> hehe just experimenting
[08:35] <Jucato> Kai: you can try it without confirming it so you won't have to actually remove anything
[08:35] <Kai> Hm
[08:35] <ironfroggy> also interesting is that usually the pointer acceleration doesnt seem to affect the touchpad, but when the scrolling stops working the acceleration kicks in.
[08:35] <Kai> thats weird
[08:36] <Jucato> removing kubuntu-desktop will only work when 1) you use Aptitude and 2) it was installed using Aptitude
[08:36] <Kai> different from breezy. back on breezy it would have ripped all of its sibling packages, kicking and screaming, from the system
[08:36] <tn3270> ah
[08:36] <Kai> or at least thats what happened to me.
[08:37] <tn3270> i will keep that in mind and try
[08:38] <inteliwasp> is there a platform independent way of useing remote dektop?
[08:38] <Jucato> tn3270: you might want to have a look at this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php specially about installing Gnome, KDE, and Xfce
[08:39] <tn3270> i think i read that already hehe, but thanks
[08:39] <tn3270> i'll try later
[08:39] <tn3270> *crosses fingers*
[08:39] <tn3270> btw don't you guys sleep?
[08:39] <ironfroggy> are there known issues with touchpads like this?
[08:40] <Jucato> it's almost 3pm here...
[08:40] <tn3270> lol same
[08:40] <inteliwasp> 02:40 here
[08:40] <tn3270> eh
[08:40] <tn3270> jucato is in SEA?
[08:40] <ironfroggy> here too.. AM, tho.
[08:40] <tn3270> heh
[08:40] <Jucato> tn3270: yeh ^_^
[08:41] <tn3270> tks for help
[08:41] <inteliwasp> that was a 24hr clock... AM  weeeeee
[08:41] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:43] <nalioth> sleep?
[08:43] <nalioth>  who needs sleep?
[08:43] <inteliwasp> i second that
[08:43] <tn3270> sleep is for the weak
[08:43] <Jucato> sleep does not exist in nalioth's vocabulary
[08:43] <fritsch> tn3270: :hehe, just got up
[08:43] <tn3270> weakling!
[08:43] <tn3270> *hides*
[08:43] <Jucato> lol
[08:43] <fritsch> tn3270: :-)
[08:44] <tn3270> wow, you guys are frienndly
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: was totally tired, done 12 hours of kernel recompiling yesterdays (f*cking sky2)
[08:44] <tn3270> ah
[08:44] <tn3270> my fun yesterday was this:
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: 2.6.18-rc4 <- very stable for this card
[08:44] <tn3270> manually send 3000+ mails
[08:44] <fritsch> tn3270: lol
[08:45] <fritsch> tn3270: why that? perl/bash is your friend
[08:45] <tn3270> is exciting
[08:45] <tn3270> no no windows 20 box
[08:45] <tn3270> *2k
[08:45] <tn3270> with some weird email software
[08:45] <tn3270> notbad, 3hrs only :P
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: every 3 seconds a mail
[08:46] <tn3270> how come you took 12hrs to recompile :P
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: oh my god
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: long story
[08:46] <fritsch> tn3270: my new mainboard has an IT821X controller
[08:46] <tn3270> most of it was deleting "mail delivery" notices
[08:46] <tn3270> ah
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: after plugin my lvm and ubuntu installation, no root could be mounted, while booting (just normal, no problem)
[08:47] <tn3270> ah
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: after this a booted a live cd, chrooted in, redid initrd
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: rebooted and, what do i have to see: nothing works
[08:47] <tn3270> ouch
[08:47] <fritsch> tn3270: problem was: my installation knew the drive as hda
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: the live cd loads the ITE821X after the intel piix modul
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: => /dev/hde is now my harddisk
[08:48] <inteliwasp> is it worh it to recompile the kernal for my laptop for performance/batt times?
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: very annoying for grub, which can t find "corresponding bios drive"
[08:48] <tn3270> how did that happen fritsch?
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: bought new mainboard/cpu
[08:48] <fritsch> tn3270: IDE controller changed
[08:48] <tn3270> ah
[08:48] <tn3270> suppose so
[08:49] <tn3270> hmm
[08:49] <tn3270> grub can't find the drive then?
[08:49] <fritsch> tn3270: but to finish, the new initrd know it again as "hda" ;-) because It821x comes before Piix
[08:49] <inteliwasp> nm.... brain is outta gas..... *thud*
[08:49] <fritsch> tn3270: yes, if you have a special ide chipset
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: normally no stress, the mix up (hde <-> hda) from live to booted/chrooted system was problem at first
[08:50] <tn3270> why are you guys so hardcore?
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: hardcore?
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: i want to use an OS
[08:50] <tn3270> yeah you spend 12 to recompile
[08:50] <tn3270> 12 hrs
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: compile time was perhaps 1 hour
[08:50] <tn3270> oh
[08:50] <fritsch> tn3270: but friggling out the devices stuff
[08:51] <tn3270> yeah i suppose
[08:51] <tn3270> many would have given up
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: after that i tried kernels to improve sky2 bandwith
[08:51] <tn3270> i appluad your... tenacity
[08:51] <tn3270> what is sky2?
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: but not me, made a howto and send it to my computer shop
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: this is a network driver
[08:51] <tn3270> mm
[08:51] <fritsch> tn3270: the device says "hello" under eth1, but wants to be used on eth2 ;-)
[08:52] <tn3270> hehehe
[08:52] <tn3270> weirdness
[08:52] <fritsch> [17179584.788000]  sky2 eth0: addr 00:17:31:84:44:8d
[08:52] <fritsch> [17179584.936000]  sky2 eth2: enabling interface
[08:52] <fritsch> tn3270: cool *g* or?
[08:52] <fritsch> tn3270: perhaps some udev stuff, i could manage this hehe
[08:52] <tn3270> you are way to scary
[08:53] <tn3270> i just know the basics
[08:53] <tn3270> and you're playing with interesting drivers
[08:53] <fritsch> tn3270: don`t want to scarry
[08:54] <fritsch> tn3270: i use linux because of such stuff ... there would have been no way to keep an windows XP installation
[08:54] <tn3270> no worries
[08:54] <ironfroggy> has anyone here been having trouble with firefox?
[08:54] <tn3270> not really
[08:54] <fritsch> ironfroggy: in what way?
[08:54] <ironfroggy> im having consistant problems with it on two boxes, but its different consistant problems on each box.
[08:54] <Jucato> what kind of problem?
[08:54] <ironfroggy> one my laptop i get repeated freezing
[08:55] <fritsch> ironfroggy: only firefox or the whole system?
[08:55] <ironfroggy> and on the desktop it randomly loads pages without rendering them.
[08:55] <ironfroggy> just firefox
[08:55] <fritsch> ironfroggy: some "jungle" plugins (sorry don`t find the english word)
[08:56] <ironfroggy> umm.. not sure what you mean
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: some wmv plugins can hang firefox very ugly, or acessing flash sites
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: can you reproduce it to a page?
[08:56] <ironfroggy> no its never reproducable.
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: shit :-)
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: ypi ise tje ate versopm
[08:56] <ironfroggy> its just one of those "eventually" bugs
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: sorry, did not look an the screen
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: you use the latest version?
[08:56] <ironfroggy> yes
[08:56] <fritsch> ironfroggy: try following
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: start firefox from a terminal and have a look, if something is reported in
[08:57] <ironfroggy> what i find the oddest is that both boxes are up to date and get these different problems, but both get their respective problems pretty consistantly.
[08:57] <ironfroggy> ill do that
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: you can also look in ~/.xession-errors
[08:57] <ironfroggy> are there any verbosity flags i can use?
[08:57] <fritsch> ironfroggy: --g-fatal-warnings
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: or -safe-mode
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: if safe mode works, then an extension is the problem
[08:58] <ironfroggy> ok if i cant figure anything out from this ill run in a debugger next time.
[08:58] <fritsch> ironfroggy: okay, have fun
[08:59] <root> i
[08:59] <fritsch> root: could you do: adduser fritsch adm
[08:59] <ironfroggy> but also, i still cant scroll with my touchpad and dont know why its stopping working.
[08:59] <fritsch> root: lol, was just a joke, because of your "root" name
[08:59] <fritsch> ironfroggy: did you suspend in between?
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: just switch to a terminal: "ctrl alt F1" and switch back "ctrl alt F7"
[09:00] <ironfroggy> no it just happens now and then. its pretty rare, but very annoying
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: and retry
[09:00] <ironfroggy> tried that, no go
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: okay, perhaps look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:00] <fritsch> ironfroggy: synaptics is it .. i think
[09:01] <ironfroggy> yes its not finding the touchpad device, so it must be falling back on a standard mouse driver.
[09:04] <quink25> hello, just a question:
[09:05] <quink25> i'm having problems with a latitude c600 cd-rom drive. all i think i need is a kernel option that i can pass on, that says no persitent mount. the documentation was kinda sparse on that one, so it'd be nice to have something
[09:06] <quink25> i'm trying to run an install
[09:09] <redondo81> Hi guys, do you know how I can run  windows exe files under linux?There's an emulator o something like?
[09:10] <hagenisse> wine.
[09:10] <Jucato> redondo81: Wine. but not all windows programs will run
[09:10] <redondo81> ok, thanks, with apt-get I can install it?
[09:10] <Jucato> yep
[09:11] <Ash-Fox> I suggest that if you have difficulties with wine, to readup about the program you want to run on http://appdb.winehq.org/
[09:12] <redondo81> Thank you very much!I try now :)
[09:16] <quink25> any ideas?
[09:17] <fritsch> quink25: what is not working?
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: does it not mount or does it always mount?
[09:18] <quink25> it doesn't mount at all
[09:18] <quink25> the cd is not defective
[09:18] <quink25> slax has a similar problem on the laptop
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: okay
[09:18] <quink25> the mount of the root file system fails
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: is it detected by the kernel?
[09:18] <quink25> the root on the cd
[09:18] <quink25> is what detected by the kernel?
[09:18] <fritsch> quink25: you can try pass the values: routeirq=pci
[09:19] <quink25> the cd - good question...
[09:19] <fritsch> quink25: and if nothing works, try: routeirq=pci irqpoll
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: dmesg |grep hd
[09:20] <quink25> alright, restarting
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: does this give something usefull?
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: okay, have a try
[09:20] <quink25> it doesn't even get up to that stage
[09:20] <quink25> where i have the shell
[09:20] <fritsch> quink25: the cd is not your only problem?
[09:21] <quink25> unless, there's a backdoor for a shell...
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: it does not boot at all?
[09:21] <quink25> i think it is the cd-drive only that's the problem
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: ah!
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: you want to start the live cd?
[09:21] <quink25> that all linux distros can't get to mount the root file system, unless some parameters are passed on at boot time.
[09:21] <quink25> yep
[09:21] <fritsch> quink25: okay, perhaps this helps
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: if not: try: acpi=off noapic (APIC, not acpi)
[09:22] <quink25> ok, routeirq=pci didn't work
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: the irqpoll is very evil ... i got a confused cdrom drive with this option ...
[09:22] <quink25> ok, i'll give that a try
[09:22] <quink25> ok
[09:22] <quink25> bbl
[09:22] <fritsch> quink25: just place: routeirq=pci irqpoll acpi=off noapic nolapic
[09:23] <heinkel_111> good morning :)
[09:23] <fritsch> quink25: this sould be very hardcore though
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: moin!
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you have been in bed, too?
[09:23] <heinkel_111> yes
[09:23] <fritsch> heinkel_111: you are an european, too?
[09:23] <heinkel_111> i lost my hacking powah
[09:23] <heinkel_111> fritsch: yes i am norwegian
[09:39] <timothy> I need to transfer the contents of a 2.5 gig hd to this computer.  the only way I can do this is over the wireless network.  how would I do such a transfer?
[09:39] <timothy> the computer with the files is booted inte dsl linux
[09:42] <timothy> hello?
[09:42] <Jucato> I guess no one knows?
[09:42] <timothy> that sucks
[09:43] <Jucato> or maybe no one who's here right now...
[09:43] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:43] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: both computers linux?
[09:44] <timothy> the receving computer is kubntu the sending computer is danm small linux
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> use NFS
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[09:45] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:46] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: set up a share using nfs on the receiving computer, then use konqueror on the sending computer to push the files to the other one
[09:47] <blewis> Hi all.  Does anyone have a problem with opening files on smb shares with openoffice
[09:47] <timothy> ok, ill try it
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> timothy: once you have installed nfs on kubuntu you can use the gui in ssytem settings --> sharing to setup the share
[09:50] <rohit_> help!! amarok not playing mp3
[09:50] <Martijn81> is there another way to unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ besised rebooting?
[09:50] <Jucato> !mp3
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:51] <redondo81> I installed wine, what program can I run to try if it works now?
[09:51] <Martijn81> *besides
[09:51] <Jucato> rohit_: you need to install the package called "libxine-extracodecs"
[09:51] <rohit_> i did that
[09:51] <Jucato> is it already installed?
[09:51] <rohit_> yes
[09:52] <rohit_> xmms is able to play mp3 but not amarok
[09:52] <Jucato> xmms uses its own thing to play mp3's. amarok needs libxine-extracodecs
[09:52] <Jucato> check if Amarok is using the xine engine (Settings menu > Configure Amarok > Engine)
[09:53] <rohit_> yes it is
[09:53] <Jucato> hmmm
[09:53] <rohit_> how do i re-install libxine-extracodecs
[09:53] <Martijn81> libmad0? Just guessing though
[09:55] <redondo81> Do you know a good ide to develop c/c++ programs under linux?
[09:55] <Jucato> redondo81: KDevelop
[09:56] <rohit_> thanks Jucato it seems to be working now!!
[09:56] <redondo81> thanks jucato
[09:56] <Jucato> wow, 2 thanks in a row ehehehe
[09:56] <rohit_> well then I will enjoy my Mp3s thanks again
[09:57] <TheGateKeeper> redondo81: someone suggested this haven't got round to trying it: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots
[09:57] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:58] <whatever> how do I increase the speed of the mouse?
[09:59] <whatever> from system settings > mouse the 'pointer threshold' cannot be increased to more than 20px
[09:59] <whatever> I want it to go more than that. possible? Maybe from teh command line?
[10:00] <whatever> In which file is this setting stored?
[10:02] <kooboontu> Well I'm pleasantly surprised. I had expected to go through some hell to get sound to work using the original 6.06 LTS live cd, but this Dell's Sigmatel 92xx works.
[10:06] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[10:06] <xst> I have a CUPS problem: When I, from my local host, A, try to print to a remote CUPS-host, B, all that comes out from the printer is a sheet with some "@PJL SET foo=bar" lines on it. If I print directly from the remote box (B), the output is just fine. Not even "echo foo | lpr" is printed correctly from hos A. What to do?
[10:06] <equinoxeB> is there a page on the internet where I can find how to decrease the boot time?
[10:07] <kooboontu> equinoxeB: sure, look for things like removing unnecessary initscripts
[10:08] <quink25> nothing.
[10:09] <TheGateKeeper> equinoxeB: if you search the ubuntu forums there should be information there, mainly involves removing services that you arn't going to use
[10:11] <gan|y|med> hi. is there a way to switch runlevels with initng?
[10:13] <equinoxeB> 10x
[10:26] <Tokeiito> labas rytas (good morning)
[10:40] <amaab> !latest
[10:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:42] <Tokeiito> what soft i can use for compressing avi movie?
[10:46] <todoestaqui> anyone can help me ? on term konsole, when typed 'ls | less' => ok but when typed 'ps | less' -> bash : less: command not found ???
[10:46] <phreakys> hello
[10:54] <phreakys> hi
[10:54] <phreakys> what is the xgl-kubuntu package for?
[10:54] <phreakys> seems to be broken on my fresh kubuntu install
[10:54] <phreakys> (i know its for compiz, but i used the manual method to install before)
[10:57] <redondo81> I have a problem,I have to install JRE to visualize an applet on Firefox, how can I do?
[10:57] <phreakys> ah, did that some days back
[10:57] <phreakys> !java
[10:57] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:58] <phreakys> its there
[10:58] <redondo81> ok, thanks
[10:58] <phreakys> np
[11:00] <phreakys> removing xgl-kubuntu, seems like its trashing halve of kubuntu :S
[11:00] <redondo81> I have a problem , when I lunch the command sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre it says to me it cannot find it,do you know why?
[11:00] <Jucato> redondo81: you need to enable the "multiverse" component of the repos
[11:01] <SubNet> hi there!
[11:01] <redondo81> and how?
[11:01] <phreakys> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:01] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:01] <phreakys> check for the universe files and add multiverse behind
[11:01] <SubNet> Anybody experienced with k9copy? Tells me it couldn't open pipe ...
[11:01] <SubNet> I have no Idea what this could be
[11:02] <fenixon> hi
[11:02] <phreakys> nope, no idea
[11:03] <fenixon> i have a question - how to change my linux theme?
[11:06] <phreakys> hm, installed xgl from jesper's script. *fingers crossed* brb
[11:09] <AquaFox> Guys.
[11:09] <AquaFox> If I idle my computer before I sleep I find it logged out.
[11:10] <AquaFox> I want my programs to keep running.
[11:10] <redondo81> I enable multiverse but nothing, it don't find it
[11:10] <AquaFox> How to fix it?
[11:10] <Jucato> redondo81: make sure that the multiverse that you enabled is on this line: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" and not on the dapper-backports line
[11:11] <AquaFox> Help me guys?