[00:07] <laga> Stemming78: probably a line ending conflict..
[00:20] <MythbuntuGuest16> I need some help installing Mythbuntu. It seems that it cannot configure my graphics card and is hanging.
[00:29] <KillerKiwi2005> whats the best place to put irxevent to start it on boot?
[00:51] <Stemming78> Anyone have a an lrcrc configured for playing videos (xine, vlc)?  Need to set one up.
[00:51] <Stemming78> *willing to share
[00:52] <laga> Stemming78: mythbuntu-lirc-generator can do that
[00:54] <Stemming78> I did and for some reason those were not configured....
[00:54] <laga> Stemming78: mythbuntu-lirc-generator --help ?
[00:55] <Stemming78> command not found; tried different variations... Might not be an option.
[00:56] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[00:56] <Stemming78> rhpot1991: mythbuntu-lirc-generator --help    Dont think that is a valid command
[00:57] <rhpot1991> lircrc, not lirc
[00:57] <laga> both seem to work here?
[00:57] <Stemming78> ahh, that works
[00:58] <rhpot1991> laga: the lirc is the help file, on my system at least
[00:59] <Stemming78> If I did mythbuntu-lirc-generator --xine    That will ADD to my lircrc file or replace it?
[01:00] <rhpot1991> it will replace them
[01:00] <rhpot1991> I'd just back the folder up
[01:00] <rhpot1991> then regenerate everything
[01:00] <rhpot1991> and piece everything together that you want
[01:01] <Stemming78> Thats what I will do...  How soon until the NEW lircrc creator will be release (heard it will be released with 8.04?)
[01:02] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, sometime in the 8.10 Dev cycle, its getting a new app Mythbuntu Remote Manager
[01:05] <Stemming78> Right on, this will surely make life easier....
[01:06] <Stemming78> Checking the help file for mythbuntu-lircrc-generator;  xine, vlc and others should be automatically generated.
[01:06] <foxbuntu> correct
[01:07] <Stemming78> It is not (only giving me output for mythtv...  So, I run this command:  mythbuntu-lircrc-generator --xine 1  and still nothing (only mythtv mapping)
[01:07] <Stemming78> what could I be doing wrong
[01:07] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, they are in included files
[01:08] <foxbuntu> they do not all end up in the same spot
[01:08] <foxbuntu> ~/.lirc/xine for example
[01:10] <Stemming78> foxbuntu: maybe I'm not following you, but all I have in /.mythtv directory (pertaining to this) is lircrc and lircrc.old...  No sub directories.
[01:11] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, its in your home dir
[01:11] <foxbuntu> /home/<user>/.lirc/xine
[01:12] <rhpot1991> ~ is /home/<user>
[01:13] <Stemming78> no /.lirc directory...  lircrc writes to /home/<user>/.mythtv
[01:15] <Stemming78> its not a big deal... Will manually edit the file; probably could have it done by now rather I try for the easy way out...
[01:15]  * MythbuntuGuest61 stabs Stemming78 violently
[01:16] <tgm4883_laptop> that was....interesting
[01:16] <abarbaccia> yeah - what was that about lol
[01:16]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[01:16] <rhpot1991> Stemming78: dpkg -l mythbuntu-lirc-generator |grep ^ii
[01:16] <Stemming78> Im a little surprised
[01:18] <Stemming78> kids...
[01:20] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, is your system up to date?
[01:20] <Stemming78> update came through today, havent installed it yet...
[01:21] <rhpot1991> I have 0.17-0ubuntu1~gutsy1 on my gutsy box, and 0.20-0ubuntu1 on my hardy box
[01:22] <wotten_> tgm4883_laptop did you see my question earlier?
[01:22] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[01:22] <wotten_> k
[01:23] <wotten_> I made a mistake and setup a slave BE as its own master....
[01:23] <wotten_>  I corrected it but now when I set a program to record every week....
[01:23] <wotten_>  everything looks correct but when the program is highlighted...
[01:23] <wotten_>  it says that the recording is not listed.....when it really is
[01:23] <wotten_>  and the program doesn't record....
[01:23] <wotten_>  I can correct it by re-selecting it on the master....
[01:23] <wotten_>  how can I correct the slave BE?
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> you have corrected it in mythtv-setup?
[01:24] <wotten_> yes...I adjusted the ME address
[01:26] <wotten_> what is weird.....I had a program selected to be recorded tonight earlier but it wasn't selected to be recorded
[01:27] <wotten_> when it was highlighted to be recorded?
[01:28] <Stemming78> Cant seem to get it to output for xine or vlc...  No biggie...
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> wotten_, i think you need to do a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database on the slave backend.  Make sure that is pointed to the right machine (your master backend).  It is most likely pointed at your slave machine
[01:29] <wotten_> ok ty
[01:31] <Stemming78> Anyone have a answer/fix to an issue I am having with Video Manager?  Everytime I enter it "loading..." appears and remains...  Not a huge distraction, but it prevents me from using MANUAL fetch from IMDB
[01:31] <Stemming78> Unless that was disabled with 0.21
[01:32] <Stemming78> Also, the field to rename a movie has been removed;  0.21 update?
[01:34] <wotten_> this is what I get...
[01:34] <wotten_> william@AMD:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[01:34] <wotten_> [sudo] password for william:
[01:34] <wotten_> Package `mythtv-database' is not installed and no info is available.
[01:34] <wotten_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[01:34] <wotten_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[01:34] <wotten_> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is not installed
[01:34] <wotten_> william@AMD:~$
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> err
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> wotten_, my bad.  I believe the package is actually mythtv-common
[01:39] <tgm4883_laptop> on the slave
[02:03] <abarbaccia> does the current lirc package take care of setserial for you on serial blasters?
[05:43] <JDStone> well, I upgraded to 0.21 and now my frontends won't connect
[05:44] <JDStone> how do I go back to 0.20.2
[05:44] <rhpot1991> perhaps you should try and diagnose the problem first?
[05:44] <rhpot1991> did you upgrade the frontends and the backends?
[05:44] <JDStone> I have been trying
[05:44] <JDStone> I can't upgrade the frontends
[05:44] <JDStone> I'm using xbmcmythtv
[05:44] <JDStone> I'm using the latest version
[05:44] <rhpot1991> thats your problem then
[05:44] <JDStone> obviously!
[05:45] <rhpot1991> 0.20.2 can't talk to 0.21
[05:45] <JDStone> i know
[05:45] <JDStone> that now
[05:45] <JDStone> I just read that
[05:45] <rhpot1991> use upnp in xbmc is part of a solution
[05:45] <rhpot1991> otherwise reinstall 0.20.2 and restore the backup of the db that the installer made
[05:45] <JDStone> how do I reinstall 0.20.2?
[05:46] <JDStone> i don't know how to
[05:47] <JDStone> when xbmcmythtv tries to connect to the backend, the backend gives "unknown socket"
[05:47] <rhpot1991> use something like synaptec to remove the old one, then take out the backports sources and reinstall it all
[05:47] <JDStone> and then the connection on xbmcmythv fails
[05:47] <rhpot1991> ya, cause 0.21 is protocol 40
[05:47] <rhpot1991> and thats looking for 31 IIRC
[05:47] <JDStone> yeah, I noticed that
[05:48] <JDStone> correct
[05:48] <JDStone> so, "apt-get remove mythtv"?
[05:48] <JDStone> and then remove the backports sources
[05:48] <JDStone> I'll try that, thanks
[05:49] <rhpot1991> ya, you should go read around first and make sure you shouldn't be backing some stuff up first though
[05:49] <rhpot1991> just incase things get deleted
[05:49] <JDStone> rhpot1991: doing my usual 'dist-upgrade' is what got me in this mess
[05:49] <JDStone> good point, thanks
[05:50] <rhpot1991> .21 is nice though, I'd recommend you keep using it and wait for the xbmcmythtv guy to upgrade
[05:50] <JDStone> hmm
[05:50] <JDStone> I'd like to
[05:50] <JDStone> hmm
[05:50] <rhpot1991> depends how badly you need those frontends working
[05:50] <rhpot1991> and how quickly
[05:50] <JDStone> it's my only frontend
[05:50] <rhpot1991> last I checked the dude wasn't even answering forums posts
[05:50] <rhpot1991> and its a one man project
[05:50] <JDStone> that's exactly what I was reading
[05:51] <JDStone> yeah, I'm getting sick of using xbmcmythtv
[05:51] <rhpot1991> try doing upnp though, I think you can access all your media with that
[05:51] <rhpot1991> just not do any of the mythtv stuff
[05:51] <rhpot1991> might be a good temporary solution
[05:51] <JDStone> I can access the media over samba
[05:51] <JDStone> just fine
[05:51] <JDStone> is that what you mean?
[05:51] <rhpot1991> well upnp does that all for you
[05:52] <rhpot1991> pretty much the same end results
[05:52] <JDStone> but I can't use the xbmcmythtv frontend, right?
[05:52] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP
[05:52] <JDStone> still
[05:52] <rhpot1991> would just be in xbmc
[05:52] <JDStone> hmm
[05:52] <JDStone> maybe I'll give that a try
[05:53] <JDStone> rhpot1991: wait, how will I know what I'm watching if the file names of the mythtv recorded shows are all named weird
[05:54] <rhpot1991> upnp might handle that for you, I'm not really sure
[05:54] <rhpot1991> try it and see, if not you can make a userjob to use the mythrename script in the contrib folder
[05:55] <WcktKlwn> is there a way to adjust the screen position?
[05:58] <Killerkiwi> has anybody tried irxkeys ? http://frodo.dyn.gno.org/~brettk/irxkeys
[06:02] <JDStone> what port does the UPnP server run on?
[06:04] <JDStone> nevermind
[06:06] <JDStone> oh, wow!
[06:06] <JDStone> I got it
[06:06] <JDStone> thanks rhpot1991!
[06:34] <Killerkiwi> ok.... irxkeys works in sdl games...
[07:07] <chrisork> what a nice morning. perfect to set up the new beta. :)
[08:22] <nbags> When my mythbox is doing commercial flagging, watching live tv (or recordings) becomes jumpy. This is on a dualcore machine, and the commflagging doesn't even max out 1 cpu. I assume the jumpiness is from IO congestion. Is there anything I can do about this without having to buy more/faster drives?
[08:22] <nbags> I've tried running 'ionice -c3' on the mythcommflag processes but that didn't seem to help
[08:24] <nbags> i only have this problem with high-def recordings
[08:50] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know how to get the switch_audio command to work in mplayer?
[11:00] <Rigolo> good afternoon
[11:01] <Rigolo> anyone here using the weekly-build script locally (my_build_trunk.sh) in combination with pbuilder that can give me some help?
[11:55] <aSpastic> If install from a alternative CD..does it still have X? and MCC??
[12:51] <laga> aSpastic: you'll have to install mythbuntu-desktop.. X should be there
[12:52] <Rigolo> laga: can you give me some help with the weeklybuild scripts?
[12:52] <Rigolo> I want to use those to compile my own version of mythtv with some patches applied to it
[12:53] <laga> Rigolo: what do you need to know?
[12:53] <Rigolo> I can compile mythplugins , but mythtv gives an error with a patch in de debian/patches directory
[12:54] <laga> Rigolo: add that patch to PATCHES_TO_IGNORE.. it's in the script somewhere
[12:54] <Rigolo> I would like to disable some patches (that can be done from the script) but also add patches
[12:54] <Rigolo> How can I add patches to debian/patches my self? automagically ofcourse :-)
[12:55] <Rigolo> I looks like I need to add something to the generate_source_packages script to also include my own patches
[12:55] <Rigolo> just like the debian patches are added from the bzr repository
[12:56] <laga> if you want to add patches, i suggest you bzr branch the mythtv-fixes branch, then add your patches (bzr add xx_my_patch.dpatch), then you tell the weekly build scripts about your new repo
[12:56] <laga> so, you basically do:
[12:56] <laga> bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-fixes
[12:56] <laga> cd mythtv-fixes/debian/patches/
[12:56] <laga> then you read up on dpatch and how to create your own
[12:57] <laga> then your add that dpatch you've just created to 00list
[12:57] <laga> then you bzr add your patch
[12:57] <laga> then you bzr commit to make your changes permanent
[12:57] <aSpastic> laga..does the diskless thing in MCC auto create and start th tftp server?
[12:58] <laga> then you set MYTHTV_BZR_BRANCH to your local branch, eg like file:///home/laga/dev/mythtv/packaging/mythtv-fixes
[12:58] <laga> aSpastic: i hope so. it should be added to /etc/inetd.conf and ientd should be running
[12:58] <laga> Rigolo: that's a bit complicated, but the proper way of doing things
[12:58] <Rigolo> laga: thanks ... that was exactly what I was looking for ...
[12:59] <aSpastic> laga: thanks, will be setting it up tonight
[12:59] <laga> Rigolo: you can just patch the mythtv source locally, but changes like that tend to vanish once you rm -rf work/ ;)
[12:59] <laga> aSpastic: let me know how it goes on the forums.
[12:59] <Rigolo> btw: patches/12_changeset_16483 can be removed .. it is already fixed in the latest revision
[12:59] <laga> aSpastic: dhcp isn't set up automagically, so you'll have to do it yourself or use that usb stick thingy
[12:59] <Rigolo> that is the patch that did not apply when I tried to build myth
[13:00] <laga> Rigolo: you're semi-right on that one.. in ubuntu, we have 0.21 and cherry-pick patches.. so for ubuntu, it's still needed
[13:00] <laga> just add it to PATCHES_TO_IGNORE
[13:00] <aSpastic> laga: got that setup on my monowall box, so i am set
[13:00] <laga> aSpastic: cool
[13:01] <laga> Rigolo: what patches do you need?
[13:01] <Rigolo> laga: but the branch is calles mythtv-fixes .. should that then not be mythtv-021 or something
[13:01] <laga> Rigolo: i'll agree that the branch naming is confusing at best..
[13:01] <Rigolo> laga .. the patch from janne from ticket 3640
[13:02] <Rigolo> no idea if it works against 0.21-fixes
[13:02] <Rigolo> it is already 8M old
[13:02] <laga> good luck :)
[13:03] <Rigolo> well, you really need that patch in order to use mythtv with dvb-c here on the @home network in .nl
[13:03] <laga> stupid cable networks :/
[13:04] <Rigolo> well, that is debatable ... but I will just start testing that patch and then see what happens
[13:04] <Rigolo> hopefully I can get it to work, and then see if we can get it fixed in trunk :-)
[13:06] <Rigolo> laga: I have no experience with bzr, but after I have done my patch and the main repository get's updated, can I just do a bzr up to get the latest version? or will it start to complain about my updates?
[13:07] <laga> Rigolo: you can try 'bzr up'.. if it complains, use 'bzr mergE'
[13:07] <laga> s/mergE/merge/
[13:07] <laga> that should work, also i regularly f*** up when using bzr ;)
[13:08] <laga> s/also/although/
[13:08] <laga> same applies to english. ;)
[13:08] <Rigolo> at least you know your regex :-)
[13:09] <Rigolo> any idea when 0.21-fixes weekly builds will start?
[13:09] <laga> no.. but i don't see why we shouldn't start uploading them soon
[13:09] <Rigolo> trunk is to adventures for me .. with the qt4 work still going on
[13:09] <laga> yes
[13:10] <laga> the trunk build pushed up last night didn't build properly.. and i won't fix it until trunk stabilizes again
[13:10] <Rigolo> so the weekly builds will be then 0.21-fixes and trunk .. both for hardy? or do you still plan to also build for gutsy?
[13:11] <laga> only for hardy
[13:12] <laga> they don't build out of the box for gutsy anymore :/
[13:12] <Rigolo> okee, and btw, is there anything I need to do to update an alpha4 to beta? or is that just the install media that is in beta now? and a simple apt-get update/upgrade is enough
[13:13] <laga> yes, dist-upgrading should be enough
[13:13] <Rigolo> okee, I need to dist-upgrade even to move from alpha4 to beta?
[13:14] <laga> Rigolo: dist-upgrading is always encouraged on 'unstable' distros
[13:16] <Rigolo> well, I will do that right now then ... let's see what breaks :-)
[13:17] <laga> Rigolo: if you don't *dist*-upgrade, new packages probably won't be installed.. eg new dependencies
[13:18] <Rigolo> laga: how does pbuilder deal with that ... there you "just" tell it to use hardy
[13:19] <laga> Rigolo: sudo pbuilder update AFAIK ;)
[13:19] <laga> not sure if it dist-upgrades internally
[13:19] <laga> but the pbuilder chroot is pretty minimal
[13:19] <Rigolo> laga: does it retreive all the dep packages then each time you compile?
[13:21] <laga> Rigolo: no, they're saved in a tarball
[13:21] <laga> not the packages themselves, but the base system
[13:21] <Rigolo> laga: okee. btw apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing here ...
[13:21] <Rigolo> no new packages
[13:21] <laga> Rigolo: you're probably up to date then :)
[13:22] <Rigolo> I would think so .. so a simple apt-get update/upgrade is enough then :-)
[13:22] <Rigolo> well, I need to do some shopping ... and then going to work on those patches ...
[13:23] <Rigolo> I will let you know when it is working ... maybe you can add it to mythtv-fixes .. (most likely not, because you need to hard-code your network id in the source at the moment)
[13:23] <laga> it's a bank holiday today here ;)
[13:23] <laga> Rigolo: yeah, i doubt it we're gonna add that :/
[13:24] <Rigolo> laga: here the shops are open untill 19:00 .. then on sat they are open .. but closed on sun, some are open on monday ... so you never know what is open when :-)
[13:25] <laga> good luck then :)
[13:26] <Rigolo> laga: this weekend I'm away anyway ... just take some days off (although I've been off for the last 5 weeks anyway: changing jobs and using those accrued holidays)
[13:26]  * Rigolo is shopping
[13:36] <aSpastic> laga: after install the beta on the server, and make the diskless image...how do i keep both uptodate?
[13:54] <laga> aSpastic: you can do that in mythbuntu-control-centre.. in the diskless tab, start another mcc instance for the chroot and do you update there, then exit the second MCC and run "commit" in the first one
[13:54] <laga> committing the changes will take a while
[14:00] <galorin> I've got a combined frontend/backend that I am trying to add another frontend to.  I have most things done except for tv playback.  I've tried standard and xvmc; both lockup my additional frontend
[14:03] <aSpastic> thanks laga, sounds easy as
[14:04] <laga> yay, snow
[14:04] <laga> s/snow/hail/
[14:10] <aSpastic> where r u laga?
[14:11] <laga> germany
[14:20] <aSpastic> :( i want snow in Scotland
[15:57] <EvilGuru> I am considering playing around with Mythbuntu, however, I am interested if the installer supports LVM partitioning?
[15:57] <laga> no
[15:57] <laga> use the alternate disk
[15:57] <laga> and then install mythbuntu-desktop
[15:58] <laga> or use the 8.04 beta which comes with an alternate disk
[15:58] <tgm4883_laptop> EvilGuru, i'd also point out that unless you already have LVM, or need it for some special case, that you could instead use storage groups
[15:59] <EvilGuru> tgm4883_laptop: I also want to use it to hold my music/media files to be served over NFS, so LVM is quite nice for merging multiple disks
[16:00] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[16:01] <tgm4883_laptop> so you also want to use your music/media disks to capture recordings, or you want to have 1 large drive
[16:01] <EvilGuru> one large drive, which will be used for captured recordings, and my own media
[16:02] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, lvm is probably what you want then.  Otherwise storage groups are really great to use
[16:02] <EvilGuru> So I was thinking of 10GB for / and then the remaining space (320 * 2 - 10) for stuff
[16:02] <EvilGuru> although, I am still unsure where I should mount this large LVM drive
[16:04] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you want to change all the default spots for music, movies, recordings, mount it at /var/lib/
[16:04] <EvilGuru> would that also be a logical place to create a subdirectory such as music/ or movies/ to use as an NFS share?
[16:05] <tgm4883_laptop> well actually, what you would want to do is
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> mount the drive at /var/lib/mythtv/
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> inside that dir, you should make dirs of
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> recordings
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> music
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> videos
[16:06] <tgm4883_laptop> those are the dirs that mythvideo, mythmusic and mythtv will use
[16:06] <foxbuntu> EvilGuru, I use one large LVm for everything as well but I mount to /mythtv
[16:07] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ is another option.  But in doing so you will have to change the location of where mythtv and plugins look
[16:49] <JThundley> hmmm, mythvideo wants to remove mythdvd
[16:51] <Shred00> JThundley: yeah.  let it.  mythdvd was usurped into mythvideo
[16:56] <JThundley> ok, thanks
[17:18] <Aquahallic> does mythbuntu hardy have an upgrade option from 7.10??
[17:18] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[17:19] <tgm4883_laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=730238
[17:20] <Aquahallic> kewl
[17:20] <Aquahallic> I took the .21 upgrade in Gutsy and it torched my nvidia-legacy drivers soo.. looks like they fixed that in Hardy
[17:20] <Aquahallic> so i have to upgrade to that now I guess
[17:20] <Aquahallic> unless they've fixed it in Gutsy now????
[17:27] <Aquahallic> hmmm... does a secondary backend need mysql server installed??
[17:27] <Aquahallic> Or just client
[17:35] <gandalfcome> I am using mythbuntu with mythtv 0.21,I have oneproble,, when streamingvideo withflash I dont get audio. any ideas?
[17:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> gandalfcome: you need ffmpeg with libmp3lame enabled
[17:36] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you are on gutsy you can get it from medibuntu, if not you have to wait for them to make it available or build it yourself
[17:37] <gandalfcome> yes I'm on gutsy, whats medibuntu
[17:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> did you enable the codecs in MCC?
[17:40] <gandalfcome> mythtv controll center? I can only accessthis with mythweb. remote machine.
[17:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> can you ssh in?
[17:44] <gandalfcome> yes
[17:44] <gandalfcome> thats a good idea
[17:44] <gandalfcome> opening it now
[17:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free"
[17:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> and you should get a good version of ffmpeg
[17:46] <gandalfcome> already done
[17:46] <gandalfcome> but still no sound - i also upgraded the ffmpeg.do I need to restart the backend or so?
[17:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> do this first
[17:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> ffmpeg --version
[17:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> and see if it says --enabled libmp3lame anywhere
[17:47] <gandalfcome> yes
[17:47] <gandalfcome> it does
[17:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> might want to restart the box and try then if you can
[17:47] <gandalfcome> FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[17:47] <gandalfcome>   configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libogg --enable-libgsm --enable-dc1394 --disable-debug --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libfaadbin --enable-libfaad --enable-libfaac --enable-xvid --enable-x264 --enable-liba52 --enable-amr_nb --enable-amr_wb --enable-shared --prefix=/usr
[17:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> it should work at this point
[17:48] <gandalfcome> restarting box, ey. Is there any other way?
[17:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can try restarting the backend and apache, but to be honest I'm not sure why its not taking if something needs to be reset or something
[17:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> so restarting the box is a safe bet, if you can
[18:02] <gandalfcome> still no sound
[18:02] <gandalfcome> i restarted the box
[18:04] <gandalfcome> I also get error 255 when trying to transcode
[18:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> did you try on more than one video
[18:04] <gandalfcome> yes
[18:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> and do you have sound with other things
[18:04] <gandalfcome> yes
[18:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> google around and see what 255 is, I don't know about that
[18:08] <gandalfcome> i did,imlooking through the log now
[18:09] <chuk1> is this step still needed for the diskless server with the current beta:
[18:09] <chuk1> Download an updated version of the mythbuntu-diskless LTSP plugin:
[18:51] <EvilGuru> My target system is a dual 1Ghz PIII, 512MB RAMBUS, GF4 MX something and a PVR-150 -- will this be quick enough for SDTV recording/playback?
[18:52] <abarbaccia> 1GHz PIII should be good
[18:52] <EvilGuru> It is dual
[18:52] <EvilGuru> Ex-workstation system
[18:53] <abarbaccia> o, even better - SDTV doesn't have very high requirements
[18:53] <abarbaccia> esp if you put xvmc on it, etc
[18:53] <EvilGuru> I doubt HDTV will be big over here for a while
[18:54] <abarbaccia> where's "here"
[18:54] <EvilGuru> UK (England)
[18:54] <abarbaccia> ah gotcha
[18:55] <abarbaccia> hey laga you around?
[18:56] <EvilGuru> When I can I will upgrade to a dual DVB-T tuner
[18:57] <EvilGuru> What kind of decoding requirements are there for HDTV (out of interest)
[19:06] <abarbaccia> EvilGuru: the mythtv wiki has a good article on this topic
[19:06] <EvilGuru> I will take a look now
[19:15] <cosmic_> hi @ all
[19:16] <cosmic_> would anyone please be so kind to help me fixing this problem ? : http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/131663/
[19:17] <cosmic_> When i watch liveTV , then it looks bad
[19:17] <cosmic_> like not enough frames/sec
[19:18] <cosmic_> sorry for my bad english
[19:27] <laga> cosmic_: your video driver is broken, fix it
[19:28] <cosmic_> @ whitch point of the paste do you see that ?
[19:29] <laga> 2008-03-21 20:10:06.949 VideoOutputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface.
[19:29] <laga> 5	2008-03-21 20:10:06.950 VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X shared memory video output.
[19:29] <laga> 11	2008-03-21 20:10:07.304 VideoOutputXv Error: GetRefreshRate(): X11 ModeLine query returned zeroes
[19:29] <laga> 12	2008-03-21 20:10:07.335 VideoOutputXv Error: GetRefreshRate(): X11 ModeLine query returned zeroes
[19:29] <laga> ^^ that's odd, too
[19:29] <cosmic_> would you please explain the meaning of "odd" ?!
[19:30] <laga> assuming you're german: http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=odd&relink=on ;)
[19:31] <cosmic_> laga,  yes i am , thx for helping
[19:31] <cosmic_> it seems that i have to restart X , be back in a mom
[20:50] <tuxfreak_> Hi
[20:53] <tuxfreak_> anybody in here ?
[20:53] <Tuv0k> 65 ppl plus you
[20:53] <rhpot1991> !ask | tuxfreak_
[20:53] <ubotu> tuxfreak_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:56] <tuxfreak_> ok sorry. Im looking for a media center solution thtat is able to record tv play music and videos and to start games(supertux) is mythbuntu able to do that ?
[20:56] <Tuv0k> yup
[20:58] <rhpot1991> not sure about supertux, but everything else yes
[20:59] <rhpot1991> might be able to make mythgame do it, I've only ever done emulators in there
[21:13] <tuxfreak_> ok then il try to install it I come back if i have problems thx & cu
[21:14] <abarbaccia> ...as if its that easy
[21:14] <abarbaccia> haha
[22:27] <nico_> good night from Scotland
[22:27] <nico_> laga, did anyting change in the Myth code recently regarding lcdproc usage?
[22:28] <nico_> Since I moved to Hardy, the display is acting differently and I get error messeages in syslog
[22:51] <MythbuntuGuest93> laga are you there?
[22:51] <graham> is there a way to cue videos to play in sequence?
[22:51] <graham> like a video playlist?
[22:52] <nico_> yes
[22:52] <graham> nico: any suggestions how?
[22:53] <nico_> when in the video manager, edit the file, and you can specify the next one to play
[22:53] <nico_> it is not a play list, but more like "when done playing this file, play this one next"
[22:53] <nico_> I think that if the files are named the same and using sequential final numbers it would do it automatically
[22:55] <graham> thanks. can i set the player to automatically play through folders?
[22:56] <laga> aSpastic: yes
[22:56] <nico_> graham, I'm not sure
[22:56] <laga> nico_: no clue :)
[22:56] <nico_> laga!
[22:57] <graham> laga: so also in the video manager?
[22:57] <laga> err, sorry.
[22:57]  * nico_ is battling Nova-T-500 disconnects that reappeared with 2.6.24
[22:58] <aSpastic> laga: just about the diskless thing
[22:58] <laga> graham: you meant nico_?
[22:58] <laga> aSpastic: yeah
[22:58] <nico_> that card became so stable, back to square 1
[22:58] <laga> nico_: the nova t 500 must be a great piece of hardware :/
[22:58] <aSpastic> got it booting, but when i click MCC on the server, nothing happens!
[22:58] <nico_> laga, I'm back on the v4l-dvb list, bugging the devs
[22:59] <laga> aSpastic: you're the second person to report that.. can you run sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre, click 'mcc' and give me the output?
[23:00] <nico_> and I am stuck with nvidia, my TV sends crap modelines  to my Intel over HDMI :o(
[23:00] <nico_> I am not having a great time with my system ATM
[23:00] <laga> nico_: are you camelreef?
[23:00] <laga> ah
[23:00] <laga> :)
[23:00] <camelreef> sorry
[23:01] <laga> i get tearing since upgrading to hardy.. i'll have to fix that
[23:01] <camelreef> I wuld be happy with tearing
[23:01] <camelreef> I think I have lost stability in my DVB-T tuners, and the remote too, on the same board
[23:02] <camelreef> I'm stuck with nvidia
[23:02] <camelreef> and Myth
[23:02] <aSpastic> laga: no such file /sys/block
[23:02] <camelreef> and Myth acts weirdly as an lcdproc client
[23:02] <camelreef> yeah !
[23:02] <camelreef> woohoo!
[23:02] <laga> aSpastic: and when you click the mcc button?
[23:02] <laga> camelreef: lcdproc isn't that crucial, though
[23:03] <laga> for me at least.. i dont use it, actually ;)
[23:03] <camelreef> it serves no purpose, so it has to be there
[23:03] <camelreef> one of those things
[23:03] <aSpastic> when i run sudo.... it brings up MCC - then i click diskless, select amd64, then MCC, that is the error msg
[23:03] <camelreef> it used to work great
[23:04] <laga> aSpastic: can you click 'terminal' and then run mythbuntu-control-centre inside the terminal?
[23:04] <camelreef> and the display truly changes the appearance of the case, from an ugly PC thing to an acceptable Media thing, and my wifes sees it like this, that is what counts (the brainwashing sessions worked)
[23:05] <camelreef> it even worked great with the Gutsy backport
[23:05] <aSpastic> Errno 2 - no such file... '/sys/block'
[23:05] <laga> yeah, distro upgrades never are painless :/
[23:05] <laga> aSpastic: that's what you get when you click the 'Open Terminal' button?
[23:06] <camelreef> laga, I could become insuting, there. but I never had distro upgrade issues with either Debian or Ubuntu until now
[23:06] <aSpastic> open termial works....then type mythbuntu-control-centre
[23:06] <aSpastic> and get the /sys
[23:06] <laga> aSpastic: does mythbuntu-control-centre launch?
[23:06] <laga> camelreef: you're lucky then..
[23:07] <aSpastic> no
[23:07] <camelreef> laga, I have multiple systems, some dating from Debian potato, some from the first Ubuntu, whatever its name was. Some were even transfered accross hardware as-is
[23:08] <aSpastic> OSError: [Errno2] no such file... '/sys/block'
[23:08] <aSpastic> then gives me prompt
[23:08] <camelreef> the original ubuntu install saw 3 laptops in it life, the office laptops
[23:09] <camelreef> the debian package system and the quality control and release rules make the upgrades work
[23:09] <laga> camelreef: yeah, but for things like breakage in the kernel...
[23:10] <camelreef> or lcdproc clients ?
[23:10] <laga> i always encounter problems when upgrading. i dont remember a upgrade where stuff didn't break.. i do have unusual setups which are not well tested, so it's to be expected.
[23:11] <laga> aSpastic: that's odd.. let's see
[23:11] <camelreef> I tend to be conservative, maybe that os the difference
[23:11] <aSpastic> the only thing i changed was in inetd.conf
[23:11] <aSpastic> added /ltsp/amd64 onto the end on the tftpboot line
[23:12] <camelreef> laga, I setup the mythexport stuff for the iPod Touch, I talked a bit with rh and solved a few things with him, I should order the iPod tomorrow
[23:12] <laga> aSpastic: why did you do that? i don't think that's a smart idea
[23:12] <laga> camelreef: cool
[23:12] <laga> i should get myself a mp3 gadget, too
[23:13] <camelreef> order in the US, delivery in the US office, inter-office overnight FedEX to Aberdeen
[23:13] <aSpastic> it could not find the file otherwise
[23:13] <aSpastic> but even before i changed it, i was getting the same error
[23:14] <laga> aSpastic: yes, it's not related to the m-c-c error. you probably didn't set up your dhcpd correctly.. but that doesn't matter right now
[23:15] <laga> aSpastic: does /opt/ltsp/amd64/sys/ exist?
[23:15] <aSpastic> i can chane the dhcp to have the ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0?? it exists but is empty
[23:16] <laga> aSpastic: you can find example dhcpd configuration files in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/
[23:16] <laga> aSpastic: does /sys/block/ exist on the server?
[23:18] <aSpastic> yes hda etc ram0 - ram15
[23:18] <laga> aSpastic: that's very odd. i wonder why it works for me.
[23:19] <laga> aSpastic: what version of mythbuntu-control-centre do you use?
[23:19] <camelreef> anyway, good night
[23:19] <camelreef> ttyl
[23:20] <aSpastic> 0.24-0ubuntu1
[23:20] <aSpastic> it is amd64 not i386, client boots to busybox login
[23:20] <aSpastic> busybox prompt i mean
[23:21] <aSpastic> after the mythbuntu graphical boot
[23:21] <laga> yes, you probably need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-diskless-server
[23:21] <laga> and answer 'yes'
[23:21] <laga> that will be fixed..
[23:21] <laga> aSpastic: in what environment are you using mythbuntu-control-centre? gnome? anything special?
[23:22] <aSpastic> out of the box..tryng your fix..2 secs
[23:23] <weiser> Hey, I have some anoying problem with my pvr. I have a pvr-500 with 2 tuners on, but sometime it wont to record on the tuner I watching livetv with, also when the other one is free. Anyone have a clue og a solution?
[23:24] <aSpastic> got a new error cannot chroot to ltsp/...../i386
[23:25] <laga> aSpastic: where?
[23:26] <aSpastic> when i click diskless>MCC...a terminal pops up
[23:27] <aSpastic> tafter cannot chroot /opt/ltsp/i386  is says cannot delete /opt/ltsp/amd64.img
[23:27] <aSpastic> i have to go to the PC in the hall and back, sorry if messages are vague
[23:27] <laga> aSpastic: it'll only ever complain about not being able to delete things if you click the "delete image" button..
[23:28] <aSpastic> i didnt click it...ill go do it again
[23:30] <aSpastic> the /proc/9083/exe does not exist [Errno2]
[23:30] <aSpastic> same with /sys/block
[23:31] <aSpastic> didnt get the terminal window this time
[23:31] <aSpastic> only get the message with /usr/share/mcc, not going Applications - MCC
[23:33] <laga> yeah, you usually don't see messages unless you start it in a terminal
[23:33] <aSpastic> just trying to give you as much info as i can
[23:34] <laga> aSpastic: i dont know where those messages are coming from and i can't fix them unless i know some context (text surrounding the messages) and the exact error messages. maybe you can gather them on your hall computer and then file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre
[23:35]  * laga scratches head
[23:37] <aSpastic> ok
[23:37] <aSpastic> give me 2 tics, ill try something
[23:43] <aSpastic> laga, can i paste in here?
[23:43] <laga> aSpastic: use a pastebin, eg www.pastebin.ca
[23:44] <aSpastic> http://www.pastebin.ca/952212
[23:45] <laga> aSpastic: great, thanks. that should be easy to fix, i'll do it tomorrow
[23:45] <laga> it's actually a miracle that it's working for me. very odd.
[23:46] <aSpastic> what is it thats wrong?
[23:47] <laga> aSpastic: it's trying to populate the flash drive combo box in the diskless tab by reading from /sys/block/.. but /sys/block/ doesn't exist inside the diskless environment
[23:47] <laga> so it's bombing out
[23:48] <aSpastic> ah ic
[23:48] <laga> now i wonder why it doesn't happen here.. it's got to be magic
[23:49] <aSpastic> would that explain why i get the mythbuntu logo on the client, then a busybox prompt?  or is that cos i dont have the backend started?
[23:49] <laga> aSpastic: no, it's totally OK that /sys/block/ doesn't exist in /opt/ltsp/amd64/, it's only supposed to be populated on a running system..
[23:50] <laga> aSpastic: have you done sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-diskless-server?
[23:50] <aSpastic> yep, not booted the client since then
[23:50] <laga> try it now :)
[23:54] <aSpastic> got kernel, then mythbuntu loading bar
[23:54] <aSpastic> just flashing cursor now
[23:55] <laga> :/
[23:55] <laga> no output whatsoever?
[23:55] <aSpastic> not yet...do i need to download that server file? like in the wiki, or is it now incorporated?
[23:56] <laga> what version of ltsp-server do you have on your server?
[23:56] <laga> 5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu
[23:56] <laga> err
[23:56] <aSpastic> yep
[23:56] <laga> 5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu3 <- that's the one you will need. the _3_ at the end is important
[23:57] <aSpastic>  dpkg -l | grep ltsp
[23:57] <aSpastic>  5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu3
[23:57] <laga> yup, that's correct..
[23:57] <laga> so, for debugging...
[23:58] <aSpastic> just loaded to a busybox shell
[23:58] <laga> just out of curiousity, can you pastebin /etc/inetd.conf?
[23:58] <laga> aSpastic: cool. any error messages?
[23:58] <aSpastic> remove the quiet from pxeconfig?
[23:58] <laga> yes, and the splash as well
[23:58] <aSpastic> nope got a (initramfs) promt
[23:59] <aSpastic> http://www.pastebin.ca/952237
[23:59] <aSpastic> only added /ltsp/amd64 to top line


[16:22] <muthu> ok
[16:22] <muthu> i need help
 ask your question?
[16:23] <muthu> i got an error while updating cdrom update from spoftware & updater
[16:24] <muthu> the repository 'cdrom://Lubuntu 18.04 LTS _Bionic Beaver_ - Release i386 (20180426) bionic Release' does not have a Release file.
[16:24] <muthu> this is the error
[16:25] <muthu> please help to me to clear this one
[16:26] <muthu> any body there?
[16:27] <rosika> yes, it´s me, rosika. Can i help you?
[16:28] <muthu> yes please
[16:28] <muthu> the repository 'cdrom://Lubuntu 18.04 LTS _Bionic Beaver_ - Release i386 (20180426) bionic Release' does not have a Release file.
[16:28] <muthu> help me solving this rosika
[16:29] <rosika> Just wait, I´ll have to investigaty myself.
[16:29] <muthu> ok thanks! i am waiting
[16:31] <rosika> Question: what do mean by "release file"?
[16:32] <muthu> thats the same of my question?
[16:32] <muthu> while updating lubuntu i got this error
[16:33] <muthu> i dont know what is release file
[16:35] <rosika> Do you mean something like this: "The repository [...] does not have a Release file" ?
[16:36] <muthu> yes that is the error description shown hile updating
[16:36] <muthu> *while
[16:37] <rosika> I found some info on: https://askubuntu.com/questions/858374/apt-get-update-missing-release-file . Yet we must read it through first.
[16:39] <muthu> yeah reading
[16:41] <muthu> i dont think this is correct
[16:41] <muthu> this is irrelevent to my query
[16:42] <rosika> O.K. I´m a bit at a loss here. Wgat exactly did you want to achieve? Do you want to update or upgrade your system?
[16:44] <muthu> can i send image here to explain
[16:45] <rosika> Sorry, I don´t know. I´m new here myself. But I don´t think so as this seems to be text-only......
[16:45] <muthu> shall we communicate through any other medium?
[16:46] <muthu> like gmail rosika
[16:48] <rosika> I´m sorry but I  have to exit here in a few minutes. Perhaps someone else can help here? But if it´s a ppa that causes the problem I´d take it out from the settings at a first step. Then the update should work....
[16:48] <muthu> i need to update in "other software" ie. 'cdrom://Lubuntu 18.04 LTS _Bionic Beaver_ - Release i386 (20180426) bionic Release'
[16:53] <rosika> I think it´s software-properties-gtk you are referring to. I would unclick the ppa.lauchpad that causes the problem and see if the update is going to work. Sorry not to be able to help in a better way, Hopefully someone else can.
[16:58] <muthu> ok thaanks anyway
[16:58] <muthu> anyone else there?
[16:58] <rosika> You´re welcome.  have to leave now. Good luck muthu.
 @muthu [<muthu> i need to update in "other software" ie. 'cdrom://Lubuntu 18.04 LTS _Bio …], Silly question: You do have your 18.04 install disk in your CD-ROM drive, correct?
[17:47] <wxl> they left
[17:57] <tomreyn> maybe the bridge could be modified to pass joins/parts to telegram without triggering activity there?
[17:57]  * tomreyn known nothing about telegram
[17:58] <wxl> unfortunately looking into that i just discovered the project is dead.. :/
[18:09] <tomreyn> it wont be on the new russian nationalnet
[18:11] <tomreyn> https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge
 if anyone has the opportunity, please install steam, from a store or terminal, to install or not?
[18:26] <wxl> what version?
 the most recent
[18:27] <wxl> depending on how you look at it, that could mean multiple things
 I am a regular user, I wanted to switch from windows to linux.  tried many different linux distributions.  But most of all I liked lubuntu.  Faced one problem, steam is not installed, not from the terminal, not from discovery.
[18:33] <wxl> that doesn't really answer the question..
[18:34] <wxl> is it 19.10?
 @wxl [<wxl> is it 19.10?], Yes
[18:35] <wxl> so steam is not normally distributed with lubuntu (or any other flavor of linux..... or, for that matter, windows itself). you have to install it. so when you tried to install it, what was the result? did you get an error? if so, what?
 @Арон [if anyone has the opportunity, please install steam, from a store or terminal, t …], I have Steam on my 19.10 Lubuntu install. I downloaded the `.deb` from steampowered.com and installed away.
[18:53] <tomreyn> Until proven otherwise, i'd assume https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/steam probably still works, too
 That method also should be valid.
[18:54] <tomreyn> or maybe it should be https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/steam-installer rather
 Right
 there is likely more than one answer.
 I installed Lubuntu 19.10 and it’s awesome. I feel really love it. Thank you for everyone involved.  … Somethings to consider, how k3B and Libre Office Suite installed by default. Also I can’t find any widget to show my RAM usage and network speed in the panel. The rest is just perfect.
 @bensisva [I installed Lubuntu 19.10 and it’s awesome. I feel really love it. Thank you for …], You don't want libreoffice as default? Same for k3b?
 qps has a "panel" mode but it really only shows system load when it is in the tray.
 Yes I am. the k3B is impractical, while the office suite is kind of bloat. I rarely use it. but thats not a big deal. I just wanna say thank you, its beautiful.
 Thanks for your words.
 You are welcome, sir.
[19:28] <wxl> @bensisva what do you find impractical about k3b? what would you prefer?
 Imho, for me, I never use any CD/DVD since years ago, that’s what i mean impratical, also lubuntu now not supporting 32bit anymore, ie old machines. I know its not true for everyone. for my self, I already uninstalled it manually, to keep my menu simple.
[19:38] <wxl> well, i mean there's plenty of people that still use them. it's still common to see them being distributed at LUGs and conferences. they're cheap, after all.
[19:39] <wxl> and we still support old (64 bit) machines.. just not ancient ones XD


[00:53] <penguin42> has the new lp view gone for other people as well?
[01:00] <Ampelbein> penguin42: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/16/%23launchpad.html#t16:26
[01:01] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Ah, thanks
[14:30] <mfisch> Any French speakers here today?  I think this bug I just got is a dupe, but I'd like someone to confirm that and help me write a response:  Bug 905904
[14:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905904 in gnome-nettool (Ubuntu) "outil réseau : dans l'onglet périphérique , la "fenetre" information IP" a une hauteur tellement petite que seul le titre est visible , les lignes dessous sont dans une hauteur de 3mm environ?? (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905904
[15:39] <hggdh> mfisch: dupe to which bug? The OP is complaining that the gnome-nettool is showing a info window for the network interfaces that is too small to show data
[15:41] <mfisch> hggdh: good, my high school French did not fail me.  It's a dupe of this: Bug 806606 which has about 20 dupes and gets refiled 3 times a week.  I'm annoyed enough that I'm making a PPA for oneiric for it.  (I've already sent a fix upstream)
[15:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806606 in gnome-nettool (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ip information frame not displayed correctly (affects: 31) (dups: 15) (heat: 146)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806606
[15:41] <hggdh> " the window 'IP infomation' is so small that only the title is visible"
[15:41] <hggdh> mfisch: yes, it is a dupe
[15:41] <mfisch> hggdh: Could you help craft a response?  (I've got to watch my kid for a bit, back intermittently)
[15:42] <hggdh> mfisch: will do
[15:42] <hggdh> thank you for helping
[15:47] <hggdh> mfisch: are you indeed fixing the master bug?
[16:04] <mfisch> hggdh: yes, I've already sent a patch upstream that fixes it and 3 other UI issues.  I proposed it for precise but the reviewer requested I send it upstream first
[16:05] <mfisch> hggdh: No response en francais?
[16:06] <mfisch> hggdh: Should I do an English response in cases like this?  I'm pretty good at English ;)
[16:13] <hggdh> mfisch: English is the official language for LP, so responses are also in English
[16:14] <hggdh> pas de francois ici
[16:14] <mfisch> hggdh: great.  merci beaucoup mon ami
[16:14] <mfisch> s/great/bien/
[16:15] <hggdh> mfisch: mon plaisir
[16:15]  * mfisch googles that
[16:19] <mfisch> hggdh: d'accord
[19:57] <pleia2> htorque: you created a User Days icon for us back in September (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays), think you could create a new one with the dates January 14th-15th?
[21:18] <htorque> pleia2: sure, can do. unfortunately that wasn't done in inkscape, so i can really just change the dates with gimp (i lack design skills ;-)).
[21:20] <mainerror> htorque: What file format was it saved in?
[21:20] <htorque> mainerror: it's a png, guess i was too lazy to do it in inkscape. :P
[21:20] <mainerror> Did you create it in Photoshop?
[21:21] <htorque> nope, what's that? ;-)
[21:22] <htorque> if i can find the sources for the three speech bubbles, i can create a svg, so it's easier to update dates in the future.
[21:23] <mainerror> Wait why can't you open the source file anymore? I mean didn't you save it in XCF as well?
[21:24] <pleia2> htorque: I'm sure that's fine, thank you!
[21:25] <htorque> mainerror: no, i didn't. and i somehow lost all the other source files for my ask ubuntu ads. :-/
[21:25] <mainerror> Aw too bad. :(
[21:31] <htorque> pleia2: here's the "gimped" version: http://img.xrmb2.net/images/111276.png
[21:34] <mainerror> I did one as well. http://i.imgur.com/0h2TH.png
[21:34] <mainerror> I'm using your exact font settings from the original one. ;)
[21:35] <htorque> i didn't :-o
[21:36] <htorque> mainerror: are you sure? :-) anyways, i'll try to make this a svg and save it somewhere safe this time. also added it to our AU adds.
[21:37] <mainerror> I'm 100% sure. :)
[21:38] <pleia2> thanks to both of you :)
[21:38] <htorque> yw
[21:38] <mainerror> http://i.imgur.com/L5hiz.png
[21:38] <mainerror> There you go, it is the exact same font setting. :)
[21:41] <htorque> mainerror: thanks, will replace that AU ad with your version then. ;-)
[21:41] <mainerror> yw
[21:41] <pleia2> updated wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays with mainerror's version too
[22:06] <mainerror> What should one do with such a bug? Bug #385433
[22:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 385433 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update Manager opens when there is no network connection (affects: 5) (heat: 18)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385433