[07:08] <mborzecki> morning
[08:10] <pstolowski> morning
[08:11] <mvo> good morning pstolowski
[08:14] <mborzecki> pstolowski: mvo: morning guys
[08:14] <mvo> good morning mborzecki
[08:18] <pstolowski> mvo: hey, i saw you approved https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9845 but there is a problem with cla check there and i don't know how and if we can solve it
[08:18] <mup> PR #9845: osutil: update go-udev package <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9845>
[08:19] <mvo> pstolowski: well, in an ideal world the cla checker would skip git submodules
[08:19] <mvo> pstolowski: it's not quite clear to me why it is not already doing that but I don't know enough about subtrees
[08:19] <mvo> pstolowski: so if we can fix it somehow that would be good otherwise we need to force-merge I think
[08:20] <pstolowski> mvo: right, i see. i will take a look, not familiar with details either
[08:20] <mup> PR snapd#9843 closed: packaging: fix arch-indep build on debian-sid <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9843>
[09:03] <zyga> good morning
[09:05] <pstolowski> gpg error again... i think it's has been happening more often recently
[09:05] <pstolowski> hey zyga
[09:06] <zyga> pstolowski, yeah, Ian said he can reporduce that on his laptop
[09:06] <zyga> just by running the test in a loop
[09:06] <zyga> but was unsure how to debug further
[09:06] <pstolowski> yeah i know he has been looking into it
[09:09] <pstolowski> mvo: nb, on git submodules... it's not really submodule in this case, it's subtree, they are different beasts. subtree literally imports another project as a subtree
[09:34] <mvo> pstolowski: hm, ok
[09:35] <mvo> hm, I get LP build errors right now:
[09:35] <mvo> [09:35] <mvo> fatal error: sync: unlock of unlocked mutex
[09:36] <pstolowski> mvo: no other details?
[09:36] <mvo> pstolowski: lots of details :) https://launchpadlibrarian.net/518145718/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.snapd_2.48.2+git2653.2672657e~ubuntu16.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:36] <pedronis> mvo: that error is probably hinding something else
[09:36] <mvo> pstolowski: strange enough I cannot reproduce on my laptop with master so might be timing
[09:36] <mvo> pedronis: yeah :(
[09:44] <pstolowski> mvo: afaiu assert on s.settle(c) fails so we don't restore the lock with s.state.Lock() and 'defer s.state.Unlock()' kicks in on failure (sorry if i'm stating the obvious)
[09:45] <pstolowski> and settle uses testutil.HostScaledTimeout(5 * time.Second) so maybe it is indeed timing?
[09:46] <mvo> pstolowski: I wonder if we can tweak the code so that we still get the real error. and yeah, timing seems likely but what was unusual is that I got this error from many different LP arches
[09:46] <mvo> pstolowski: but given that I don't get it here locally I strongly suspect timing
[09:47] <mvo> pstolowski: I wish there was a systemd-run --use-cpu-cgroup-to-make-things-really-slow :)
[09:47] <mvo> pstolowski: to run the tests under
[09:48] <zyga> mvo, maybe there is :)
[09:48] <mvo> zyga: I bet there is, I'm just not finding it :)
[09:51] <zyga> mvo, look at systemd.resource-control and look for CPUShares
[09:52] <zyga> there's a lot of options there, like CPUQuota
[09:52] <zyga> you can pass those options to systemd run as well (as properties)
[09:53] <zyga> I'd try with CPUQuota=1%
[09:53] <zyga> and see what happens
[09:55] <pedronis> mvo: pstolowski: we should always pair Lock with defer Unlock etc even in tests, but historically we haven't done that because is a bit annoying/hard to remember
[09:55] <zyga> hey pedronis, how are you :)
[10:28] <pstolowski> oh, duplicated snapshots import logic has a bug, returns empty list of snap names for duplicated import. i think the fix will be slightly annoying
[10:28] <pstolowski> unit tests weren't good enough to catch this
[10:28] <pedronis> zyga: hi, it's mid-cycle week
[10:28] <zyga> pstolowski, oh, super busy times
[10:29] <zyga> er
[10:29]  * zyga is bad at tab completion
[10:29] <zyga> pedronis, good luck with that
[10:39] <pedronis> thx
[11:26] <pstolowski> bbiab
[13:18] <mup> PR snapd#9851 opened: o/snapshotstate: fix returning of snap names when duplicated snapshot is detected <Bug> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9851>
[14:02] <mup> PR snapcraft#3421 opened: cli: remove experimental notice for compression <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3421>
[15:52] <mup> PR snapcraft#3419 closed: Include SDK snap paths in ACLOCAL_PATH <Created by kenvandine> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3419>
[15:52] <mup> PR snapcraft#3420 closed: plainbox spread tests: set tasks to manual <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3420>
[16:02] <mup> PR snapcraft#3422 opened: Revert "cli: allow validation assertions to be revoked (#3417)" <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3422>
[16:17] <pstolowski> mvo: i cannot  find anything magical to help with cla-check in #9845, i suggest we force-merge it, updates to go-udev are extremely rare anyway
[16:17] <mup> PR #9845: osutil: update go-udev package <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9845>
[16:17] <mvo> pstolowski: thanks, I will force merge
[16:19] <pstolowski> ty
[16:24] <mup> PR snapd#9845 closed: osutil: update go-udev package <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9845>
[19:43] <mup> PR snapcraft#3422 closed: Revert "cli: allow validation assertions to be revoked (#3417)" <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3422>
[20:38] <mup> PR snapcraft#3423 opened: WIP: gnome-3-38 is no longer experimental <Created by kenvandine> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3423>
[22:03] <mup> PR snapcraft#3424 opened: Ensure PYTHONPATH is appropriate for building packages with gnome-3-38 <Created by kenvandine> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3424>


[03:41] <phix> G'day, I am still banned from #ubuntu-offtopic for some reason, I thought that was cleared up many months agp
[03:41] <phix> s/agp/ago/
[03:41] <bazhang> checking now
[03:43] <phix> Cheers
 wtf, I was kicked from #ubuntu?  I wasn't swearing, ffs
[03:43] <bazhang> the irony
[03:44] <bazhang> you swear while saying you didnt swear
[03:44] <phix> haha :) Tell me about it, how many months ago was that again?  or was it closer to a year?
[03:44] <bazhang> twice
[03:44] <bazhang> 2011
[03:44] <bazhang> april
[03:44] <phix> bazhang: Yeah I didn't know that Using acronyms and abbreviations that can have more than one meaning was the same as swearing, that was my bad
[03:45] <bazhang> jus pointing that out, really, not berating
[03:45] <phix> ok :)  so is that a life ban?  or do I need to appeal it somewhere?
[03:46] <bazhang> I dont have +o there, but if someone who does happens along I will mention your case
[03:46] <phix> ok, I should leave now right?  From memory this channel doesn't like idlers
[03:46] <bazhang> come back in a couple of hours, unless it's urgent
[03:47] <phix> ok will do, no not urgent, I haven't been in there for two years, what's another couple or hours, or a day for that matter.
[03:47] <bazhang> ok great
[03:47] <bazhang> see you then
[03:53] <genii> @comment 39718 Removed
 does anyone know why bazhang was appointed to op this channel?
[04:24] <bazhang> passed the insanity test?
[04:26] <IdleOne> iirc the choice was you or GeorgeTorwell. I think they may have chosen wrong.
[04:26] <IdleOne> :)
[04:29] <genii> Looks like he got booted from defocus
[04:30] <bazhang> and coming here now
 thankyou captain obvious
[11:51] <ikonia> then don't take it
[11:51] <ikonia> people get spoken to like dirt too much and get 10 warnings
[11:51] <bazhang> he's gotten a tonne of latitude to find the perfect gnome2 like
[11:51] <ikonia> it's not a hard concept to grasp " talk to people polite"
[11:52] <bazhang> time to wrap that up I think
[12:02] <bazhang> he wants xfce to be identical to gnome2 in every respect. I gave a forums link that does some of that. at this point he's not even listening or checking links that people offer
[21:57] <Genyar> I got booted by a hacker
[21:57] <Genyar> I think k1l is a hacker
[21:58] <k1l> Genyar: stop trolling.
[21:59] <Genyar> k1l booted me while I was getting help installing Kubuntu
[21:59] <Genyar> I was booted from the #ubuntu room
[21:59] <Genyar> and I can't go back
[22:07] <Genyar> I got booted from #ubuntu in the middle of getting support, we were almost done, when he booted me
[22:07] <Genyar> is k1l a hacker?
[22:07] <Genyar> How do I report him to sys admin?
[22:08] <Genyar> He must be a hacker with operator status, that must be a security breach
[22:13] <Genyar>  I just got booted by a hacker who must have operator status
[22:14] <Genyar> I was getting support installing Kubuntu 12.04, and we were almost done, and he booted me without any warning
[22:15] <Genyar> I tried private chatting him and he said sth about trolling and debian, none of which made any sense
[22:15] <Genyar> It was k1l who booted me
[22:15] <Genyar> is he an operator?
[22:16] <Genyar> Did he hack into your system?
[22:17] <Genyar>  If he were a real operator, I don't think he would act so irresponsibly
[22:31] <Genyar> Anyone here?
[22:40] <Pricey> Hey Genyar.
[22:41] <Genyar> hello
[22:41] <Genyar> I got booted from #ubuntu
[22:41] <Genyar> by k1l
[22:41] <Genyar> they were helping me install Kubuntu 12.04 and we were almost done
[22:41] <Genyar> He booted me without any warning
[22:42] <Genyar> I suspect he's not a real operator
[22:42] <Genyar> He may be a hacker
[22:42] <Genyar> I was sending them screenshots of the installation process and it was taking a long time
[22:42] <Pricey> Genyar: They've been here a while.
[22:43] <Genyar> How long does a ban last?
[22:43] <Pricey> Genyar: However long it needs to to prevent disruption in the channel.
[22:44] <Genyar> Can an operator permanently boot you from a room?
[22:44] <Genyar> Can you find out if k1l is a real operator?
[22:45] <Genyar> I don't think an operator would behave so irresponsibly, so I doubt he's a real operator, could he have hacked into your system?
[22:45] <Myrtti> just stop
[22:46] <Myrtti> however unlikely and impossible you might think it is, he really is an op
[22:47] <Myrtti> could you please try to concentrate on what got you banned, instead of who actually did it?
[22:47] <Genyar> Can an irresponsible operator abuse his powers by permanently banning smn?
[22:47] <Pricey> Yes/
[22:47] <Genyar> I asked him why, and he said I was trolling, what is trolling?
[22:47] <Genyar> He also said I was using debian, and that's why he banned me
[22:48] <Pricey> Genyar: Do you have anyone in your local community that might be able to help you install Kubuntu? I think that'd be the best way forward now.
[22:48] <Genyar> I live in a small town
[22:48] <Genyar> No one here knows Linux
[22:49] <Genyar> there was a professor at the college who knows linux, but he moved to the capital city
[22:49] <Genyar> I think it's very bad that I got permanently banned from the support site
[22:50] <Genyar> and the way he banned me without any warning and being so rude, that is disturbing to me,, very disturbing
[22:50] <Genyar> I believe he has abused his powers as an operator, and I would like to make a formal complaint to the council
[22:51] <Genyar> How can I email the council a report of this horrible incident of abuse?
[22:51] <Pricey> !ircc
[22:52] <Genyar> Okay, I will email a description of what happened to the council
[22:52] <Genyar> Thank you for your help
[22:52] <Pricey> Great, have an otherwise nice evening.
[22:52] <Genyar> too late for that, unfortunately
[22:58] <IdleOne> Please make sure to part this channel now that you are done here
[23:00] <IdleOne> Genyar: Please make sure to part this channel now that you are done here.
[23:01] <Genyar> ok


[09:03] <zzarr> hello! I'm having problems with gpg keys for repositories in xenial (arm)
[09:04] <zzarr> I get this message "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5  NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32"
[09:05] <zzarr> I ran "apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32", but it didn't help
[09:12] <zzarr> my sources.list file http://pastebin.com/d13mcDpu
[14:13] <Guest74403> Hi, does anyone know how to get the source for packages on arm64 Ubuntu 16.04.1?
[14:16] <mrutland> apt-get source ${PACKAGE} ?
[14:18] <genii> If different arch, then apt-get source packagename:archname
[14:18] <rbasak> Sources are independent of arch.
[14:19] <Guest74403> this is what i get "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list"
[14:20] <rbasak> Duplicate your deb lines in sources.list into deb-src lines.
[14:21] <rbasak> Or grab sources from Launchpad instead, or use pull-lp-source.
[14:27] <Guest74403> thanks that worked great!
[19:18] <marcel_> hello everybody how i can install wine on raspberry pi 3 ?? hope you can help


[11:55] <BFTD> ok so yeah, a bunch of the packages failed to download, can i just hit ctrl+c and restart without having to redownload the already downloaded packages?
[11:56] <Merchelo> are you using apt-get ?
[11:56] <grazie> BFTD: I wouldn't
[11:57] <Arkh> BFTD, the already downloaded packages won't get downloaded again
[11:57] <BFTD> yeah apt-get
[11:57] <grazie> BFTD: I had similar problem so I regenerated my source.list with source-o-matic, which fixed the problem
[11:58] <Arkh> they are being saved in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:58] <BrendanM> Merchelo, it's like an ATI radeon mobility 8500 or something. It works fine on 6.10
[11:59] <BFTD> ok it worked fine
[11:59] <BFTD> :)
[12:00] <Merchelo> !ati
[12:00] <SkullCrusher> I found getting my dial-up modem internet connection to work a little confusing someone told my to install kppp and it will be easier is this true?
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:01] <Merchelo> BrendanM: should be ok, you can always revert back to the vesa driver for the GFX card. Or go about installing open source drivers for it after (see link above)
[12:03] <BFTD> SkullCrusher kppp is a KDE app, which means you'll have to install KDE libs
[12:04] <SkullCrusher> BFTD: Is there kppp like app for xubuntu?
[12:04] <BFTD> SkullCrusher most likely, but I'm not sure
[12:04] <BFTD> !dial-up
[12:04] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:05] <SkullCrusher> I was told with xubuntu u can install gnome & kde app
[12:05] <BrendanM> Yeah, I am using the open source drivers
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> why not wvdial
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> !wvdial
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> !info wvdial
[12:05] <BrendanM> SkullCrusher, yes you can, but you'll have to install their dependencies...which sort of defeats the purpose of Xubuntu
[12:06] <ubotu> wvdial: PPP dialer with built-in intelligence. In component main, is optional. Version 1.56-1.1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 92 kB, installed size 284 kB
[12:06] <SkullCrusher> I just installed konversation which the info says its for kde and it worked on this install of xubuntu
[12:09] <cassini> Okay, so here's the deal.  I decided it would be a good idea to sudo bash.  Then, not thinking, I tried to change the root password by running the command passwd.  Now...I can sudo bash without even having to enter a password.  How do I reset the root password and lock my system back up?
[12:10] <SkullCrusher> BrendanM: If i install kde or gnome apps it will make my xubuntu heavier on resources?
[12:10] <Arkh> cassini,
[12:10] <Arkh> sudo passwd
[12:10] <predaeus> cassini, are you sure? sudo passwords only timeout after about 15mins then you will have to reenter pw.
[12:10] <Arkh> predaeus is right :p
[12:10] <BFTD> SkullCrusher yes
[12:10] <BFTD> SkullCrusher if they're running
[12:11] <predaeus> cassini, open a new terminal and check if you can run sudo without entering the pw
[12:11] <BFTD> SkullCrusher I have my normal system running and its using 5% of the cpu and 120 MB of ram, I start up konqueror and it uses 50% of the cpu and 210 MB of ram
[12:12] <SkullCrusher> BFTD: on your xubuntu install?
[12:12] <cassini> predaeus, I can run sudo without entering a pw
[12:12] <BFTD> SkullCrusher yes
[12:12] <predaeus> cassini, oh well, then I don't know, sry.
[12:13] <cassini> predaeus, do you think running sudo passwd could help?
[12:14] <SkullCrusher> BFTD: what about when u run xubuntu apps they are alot lighter then kde or gnome apps right?
[12:14] <predaeus> probably, but I've no idea what exactly you did. Did you enter an empty pw? (if that is even possible)
[12:14] <BFTD> SkullCrusher yes they are
[12:15] <BFTD> cassini it just temporary, restart your computer and it'll ask for it again
[12:15] <cassini> predaeus, nope, I think I have to boot into single user mode
[12:15] <cassini> BFTD, I did and it's still doing it
[12:15] <predaeus> SkullCrusher, the nice thing with Ubuntu in general is that you can chose to also install KDE and Gnome apps if you want them and run them when needed.
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> kde apps are quite light (with prelinking and hence not using kdeinit and them configured in a minimalistic way)
[12:17] <BFTD> yeah I've ran KDE on a 128MB ram system
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> They can be made alot less bloated
[12:18] <SkullCrusher> will xubuntu run ok on a old celeron 333mhz 128mb of ram computer?
[12:19] <Arkh> mm the cpu is a bit old
[12:19] <Arkh> but it could run I think
[12:19] <Arkh> well no open office for you though SkullCrusher ;)
[12:20] <SkullCrusher> yeh thats ok abiword will do the trick
[12:20] <h3sp4wn> SkullCrusher: fluxbox would run perfectly
[12:20] <SkullCrusher> fluxbox?
[12:20] <h3sp4wn> !fluxbox
[12:21] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:21] <predaeus> probably try http://fluxbuntu.org/
[12:21] <BFTD> I'm running Dreamlinux off of a 350 MHz PII, with 256 MB of ram
[12:21] <h3sp4wn> Is dreamlinux xfce or e17 (I forget) I know it uses engage
[12:23] <Tu_Neteru> I had trouble getting Dreamlinux to install too.
[12:23] <Tu_Neteru> :-p
[12:23] <Tu_Neteru> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=MS-6215T&class=npc
[12:23] <Tu_Neteru> That's my system.
[12:23] <BFTD> h3sp4wn its a heavier built version of XFCE
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> BFTD: It uses the e17 dock I remember that
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Ironic engage works still for other wm's but is broken for current e17
[12:25] <cassini> Alright, I'm good now :)