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[01:52] <peridot> Hi all,
[01:53] <peridot> I have a problem when connect to a remote Linux server, and run Java program
[01:53] <peridot> run a GUI application, and have an exception:
[01:53] <peridot> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[01:54] <peridot> does anyone know how to fix it?


[00:00] <BobJonkman1> #startmeeting Ubuntu-ca Team Meeting
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[00:01] <BobJonkman1> Hello Everybodeee!
[00:01] <BobJonkman1> Meeting's on, Roll Call! KombuchaKip zul genii-around bregma MagicFab komputes FiReSTaRT azend  sipherdee txwikinger johanbr doktah IdleOne dscassel Drossel mars  ryanakca edve jlamothe jaguar- DarwinSurvivor  cyphermox egerlach
[00:02] <komputes> hi all
[00:02]  * KombuchaKip waves
[00:02] <BobJonkman1> #topic Introductions:
[00:02] <BobJonkman1> Let's introduce ourselves...
[00:03]  * FiReSTaRT waves back and brb :)
[00:03]  * BobJonkman1 is Bob Jonkman, from Elmira, Ontario, chairing the meeting in dscassel's absence
[00:03] <BobJonkman1> Hi komputes KombuchaKip FiReSTaRT !
[00:03] <FiReSTaRT> hi BobJonkman1
[00:03]  * komputes is David Bensimon from Montreal, doing support and QA
[00:04] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: What's on the agenda and what has the LoCo produced or is currently producing?
[00:04] <BobJonkman1> KombuchaKip: Agenda is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013-02-28
[00:04]  * FiReSTaRT is Ilija from E-dot, mostly a desktop user, but i do a bit of support
[00:05] <BobJonkman1> It seems there was no LoCo Council meeting this month; the #ubuntu-meeting channel was quiet at the time it was supposed to take place.
[00:05] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: There's nothing there other than to for people to say hello, which we've already done?
[00:05] <BobJonkman1> There's a couple of upcoming events, so:
[00:05] <BobJonkman1> #topic Events
[00:06] <BobJonkman1> #subtopic UbuntuGlobalJam
[00:06]  * BobJonkman1 is getting used to meetingology, the Ubuntu Meeting Bot
[00:06] <BobJonkman1> Hopefully meetingology will make doing minutes &c. easier
[00:06] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: UDS isn't an ubuntu-ca event, and the global jam you can't do without a specific real community space?
[00:07] <BobJonkman1> True about UDS, but the Ubuntu Global Jam can be done anywhere people can get together.
[00:08] <BobJonkman1> Could be done in someone's living room....  Just needs a space to put your laptop, and Internet connectivity
[00:09] <BobJonkman1> In Kitchener we're taking a regular Ubuntu Hour and turning it into a Global Jam event just by distributing the latest Raring Ringtail release, and installing it on a laptop or several
[00:09] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: But people can't "get together" on freenode the way LoCo's like UVLC interprets, as in a real physical space with a real sense of community building. As for someone's living room, that's fine too, but I don't see that listed on the agenda either.
[00:09] <komputes> I'm interested in attending an online global jam.
[00:10] <BobJonkman1> If there's issues during the isntalls we can report it in Launchpad
[00:10] <FiReSTaRT> by the time it's out of beta, those should be ironed out
[00:10] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: I think you're missing the point. The point isn't to engage in technology, but to engage in real community, albeit brought together with technology as a focal point - but in person.
[00:10] <komputes> And if anyone has bugs and they are shy to report them, feel free to come and ask me for guidance.
[00:11] <KombuchaKip> Anyways, I got to get back to work. We're working on a big project right now with my home loco of UVLC.
[00:11] <BobJonkman1> KombuchaKip: It seems that the people who normally organize large-scale community events are not available this time around. New volunteers to organize a physical get-together are welcome to step up
[00:11] <FiReSTaRT> good luck KombuchaKip
[00:11]  * KombuchaKip waves
[00:11] <BobJonkman1> OK KombuchaKip, see you later!
[00:12] <BobJonkman1> What KombuchaKip said about engaging community is being done in Ubuntu Hours
[00:12] <BobJonkman1> Of which we can use more...
[00:12] <BobJonkman1> Yes, getting together in person is desirable, but even the UDS organizers are moving that event to online
[00:13] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: One of the things we are doing with uvlc is bring people together with tangible projects, like our Viking Lander Remastered project.
[00:13] <KombuchaKip> BobJonkman1: Which is part of the Avaneya project.
[00:13] <BobJonkman1> Also, I'm finding that many meeting locations are closing their doors to community projects that don't generate revenue for them
[00:14] <BobJonkman1> University of Toronto is making life difficult for the Toronto LUG, for example,
[00:14] <komputes> KoWhy is that?
[00:14] <BobJonkman1> And we haven't been able to book a community centre in Waterloo due to the expense (some $120 for three hours)
[00:15] <BobJonkman1> $120 may not sound like much, but it's a significant hurdle (otherwise we'd be doing it)
[00:15] <komputes> A coffeeshop would be cheaper
[00:15] <BobJonkman1> In Waterloo the Kwartzlab makerspace has been very generous in providing a venue (thanx to Darcy and txwikinger)
[00:16] <komputes> Maybe a company that uses/supports Ubuntu in Toronto could sponsor or host the event?
[00:16] <BobJonkman1> komputes: Coffeeshops don't seem to mind an UbuntuHour every so often, but other restaurant venues don't seem to like meetings
[00:17] <komputes> Central Reference  Library on Bloor and Yonge perhaps?
[00:17] <BobJonkman1> After the third time our Ubuntu Hour reservation wasn't honoured at a local restaurant we went elsewhere.
[00:18] <BobJonkman1> komputes: Libraries are charging for meetings too, especially if you need a screen and projector
[00:19] <BobJonkman1> Anyway, due to lack of other Global Jam events in the KW area we've rebranded our Ubuntu Hour tomorrow to be part of the Global Jam event.  That and the Vancouver Global Jam event is it for Canada
[00:20] <BobJonkman1> Unless someone puts something together by the weekend.
[00:21] <BobJonkman1> Global Jam is a working event, so the focus really is on the technology. Yes, it's the community doing that, but Global Jam is more than just a party. It's a trial of the new release, a bug fixing session, a translation session, a documentation session.
[00:22] <BobJonkman1> The other big event is UDS, the Developer Summit.  It's now going to be an online event, next week on 5 & 6 March
[00:27] <BobJonkman1> There seems to be remarkably little information online about a shedule. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/ seems to have the most info
[00:27] <BobJonkman1> So far there are only three events on the UDS calendar for Tuesday morning
[00:28] <BobJonkman1> Anyway, let's move on.
[00:28] <BobJonkman1> #topic Canadian Team LoCo Renewal
[00:29] <doktah> evening gentlemen
[00:29] <BobJonkman1> Hi doktah
[00:30] <BobJonkman1> It would be really good to get our LoCo status renewed in March, so that we're eligible for Ubuntu-branded disks for the release of 13.04 in April
[00:30] <doktah> how does one go about doing that?
[00:30] <BobJonkman1> We never did update our ReApproval Application this month: It would be really good to get our LoCo
[00:31] <BobJonkman1> Oops, cut'n'paste error.  ReApproval Application page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012
[00:31] <BobJonkman1> doktah: As far as I know, we make a request to the LoCo Council for them to discuss our ReApproval at one of their meetings.
[00:32] <komputes> I won't be there to put my +1 but yeah, i did that for ubuntu-qc
[00:32] <BobJonkman1> We provide evidence of our activities and dedication to Ubuntu, and provide a roadmap of what we're planning
[00:33] <doktah> anywhere in Canada can be included?
[00:33] <BobJonkman1> We've gathered some of that evidence in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 but there's a lot of holes and polishing to be done
[00:34] <BobJonkman1> doktah: All of Canada is included, although Quebec has their own LoCo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam
[00:34] <doktah> ahhh
[00:34] <doktah> there's a volenteer run community computer service place where I live
[00:34] <BobJonkman1> And Vancouver has their own LoCo as well https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Vancouver
[00:35] <doktah> they do a lot for Ubuntu
[00:35] <BobJonkman1> doktah: Great! that's the kind of place where we can use some of those disks
[00:35] <doktah> install it on people's systems and promoting it more than their Windows licenses
[00:35] <BobJonkman1> doktah: If you have a few minutes, add it to the ReApproval page
[00:36] <doktah> can do
[00:37] <BobJonkman1> I really want to have an online session where we finish polishing up that page, and just generally go through the pages under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam so that it looks presentable
[00:38] <BobJonkman1> There's a lot that's changed since those pages were first set up, and I'd like it all to be ship-shape for the LoCo Council, the better for them to ReApprove us
[00:40] <BobJonkman1> What would be a preferred date for us to work on the ReApproval page?
[00:40] <BobJonkman1> The next LoCo Council meeting is on 19 March, so I'd like to have it done by then, if possible
[00:41] <BobJonkman1> How does Saturday, 9 March sound?
[00:42]  * BobJonkman1 will let that percolate until the end of the meeting...
[00:46] <BobJonkman1> Does anyone have any other stuff?
[00:51] <BobJonkman1> OK, since there seems to be nothing else, and no-one is objecting to the 9 March date, I'll set up an online event for ReApproval Page polishing.
[00:52] <BobJonkman1> #action BobJonkman1 to create event for ReApproval Page polishing for Saturday, 9 March 2013
[00:52] <meetingology> ACTION: BobJonkman1 to create event for ReApproval Page polishing for Saturday, 9 March 2013
[00:52] <BobJonkman1> And I guess that's it!  Thanx, everybodeee!
[00:53] <BobJonkman1> #endmeeting
[00:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Mar  1 00:53:18 2013 UTC.
[00:53] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-03-01-00.00.moin.txt
[00:53] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ca/2013/ubuntu-ca.2013-03-01-00.00.html
[16:25] <jlamothe> edve: In case you were wondering, I got the Java plugin working.  Turns out I had the JRE installed, but not the plugin.  I was not helped that it's called icedtea-plugin, and not java-plugin.
[16:40] <johanbr> edve: la RPi fonctionne assez bien comme serveur web aussi, ou peut-être tu veux quelque chose en peu plus puissant et avec gigabit ethernet, comme ARM Kirkwood (Iomega Iconnect, Seagate Goflex, Pogoplug, ...)


[13:39] <Alabalistic_> Hi all
[13:40] <Alabalistic_> is there
[13:49] <omegatron> eh..!? I can enter "90 lines" in the "Autocenter cursor" option under Editing > Text Navigation in Kate, but it seems it only applies a value of up to 50 lines !?
[15:51] <bmsk> Hello. Did anyone encouter a problem with apt suggesting to remove nvidia drivers on machine with nvidia gpu, actually? This is fresh 21.04 install, it complains after 'apt update && apt dist-upgrade'. I assume some package was deleted and now system have unmet dependencies.
[15:52] <bmsk> Everything would be OK to suggest 'apt autoremove', but it actually break things and fallbacks to nouveau
[15:54] <bmsk> I think I'll go through apt log and see what apt dist-upgrade did, I'm just curious did anyone else noticed this
[15:54] <bmsk> s/noticed/have noticed/
[16:20] <bmsk> okay, I think `ubuntu-driver autoinstall` fixed this, but nonetheless fresh 21.04 install ends up with incomplete nvidia drivers installation.
[17:33] <Guest5> Hello! Does anyone know what happened with the "hotspot" button? After the last upgrade in Kubuntu 21.04 the button simply disappeared. It's a very important functionality to me. If anyone can help, I would be grateful!
[18:21] <enyc> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu   has IRC link that needs updating to point to freenode
[18:21] <enyc> uerr updating to point to libera.chat rather than freenode
[18:25] <RikMills> enyc: thanks. I'll edit that in a little while
[18:26] <enyc> =)
[18:26]  * enyc not tried ubuntu KDE (or any distro KDE) in a while
[18:26] <enyc> curious how the  controversial-changes  kde release-release etc etc  are or are not settling down, still annoying some people, etc etc!
[18:26] <oerheks> maybe just point to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList .. that handles freenode and libera
[21:12] <valorie> enyc: fixed; thanks for the ping about it


[18:25] <mikhas> heya - just a quick question: can I configure upstart dependencies so that if service A needs a restart, service B is restarted, too?
[18:29] <ion> B: start on started A, stop on stopping A
[18:32] <mikhas> hm, will that  also work if A crashes?
[18:32] <ion> yes
[18:33] <mikhas> cool, thanks!
[21:16] <mshadle> now that a lot of services are being setup to run via upstart, simple rc.d symlink management like S -> K to stop a service isn't an option. so what -is- the best way to say, not have vsftpd start on boot (without just rm /etc/init/vsftpd.conf or manually editing the file?)
[21:56] <mbiebl> mshadle: there is currently no better way than to either remove the file or comment out the "start on" lines
[21:56] <mbiebl> this is supposed to be fixed in 0.10
[21:59] <mshadle> how's the change going to be done?
[21:59] <mshadle> the other thing is to tell people "hey if you want to use upstart, you need an /etc/default/$daemon file, with $daemon_ENABLED="no" etc.
[22:10] <mbiebl> mshadle: afaik the plan is to use "override" files
[22:11] <mbiebl> Keybuk can tell you more, when he's around
[22:59] <JanC> well, you can make the /etc/default/* option work now
[23:11] <ion> Well, there’s really not much of a difference between changing a value in /etc/init/foo.conf and changing a value in /etc/default/foo, except that the latter just splits stuff to two files for no reason.
[23:49] <mbiebl> ion: the reasoning behind separate "override" files is, that you can manipulate with say a run level editor
[23:49] <mbiebl> and your next package update will not cause a dpkg prompt
[23:50] <ion> Yeah, but we were talking about /etc/default/foo with foo_enabled="no", which sounds like /etc/init/foo.conf sourcing /etc/default/foo.
[23:51] <JanC> ion: which splits often used options from the main script...  ;)
[23:52] <JanC> editing or rewriting a script is fine for those who understand them, for others editing a simple config file is safer (and they are safer to edit by GUI tools too)
[23:55] <mbiebl> ion: well, yeah, I hate those /etc/default/foo files with foo_enabled=..
[23:56] <mbiebl> for sysv we already have a perfectly working mechanism to enable/disable scripts from being started on boot


[04:32] <dragon> MarkDude: I have a monitor with DVI. Let me check it for HDMI.
[04:32] <dragon> And yes, Sunday sounds great.
[04:33] <dragon> Heading to Mt. Madonna on Saturday. You're welcome to join if you want!
[07:24] <bkerensa> pleia2: You by chance about? :)
[07:37] <pleia2> bkerensa: replied to your email
[07:37] <bkerensa> k
[22:58] <grantbow> let's see, what should I podcast about next... http://dvlug.org
[22:58] <darthrobot> [R: www.dvlug.org] Title: [Diablo Valley Linux Users Group]
[23:03] <grantbow> Maybe something talked about on an email list recently... lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-December/thread.html
[23:04]  * grantbow rsyncs raring alpha images


[00:10] <toorima> I', trying to add a few remote controll keys. its /home/myusername/.lircrc right? nothing happens when i add commands to it
[01:44] <MythbuntuGuest21> where to find the hardware information like in ubuntu
[02:28] <tgm4883> toorima, did you restart lirc after changing it?
[02:40] <toorima> tgm4883: yeah
[02:41] <toorima> i've added commands for mythtv before and that worked (pip among other things) but now I wanted commands to toggle subs for mplayer and nothing happens
[10:20] <timelapse> anyone know a url to something discussing how to stop mythtv from recording reruns; i.e. it wants to record daily show reruns for some reason needlessly and i cannot stop it
[14:41] <riddlebox> can you add mythbuntu repos to ubuntu and turn ubuntu to mythbuntu?
[14:47] <Daviey> yes
[15:11] <riddlebox> Daviey, if I add them and do apt-get dist-upgrade will it turn it into mythbuntu?
[15:16] <bobbob1016_> I can't seem to get mythtv running.  I'm having mysql-server issues.  I can't seem to find it in the install guide pdf, can anyone help?
[15:22] <riddlebox> Daviey, nm I should have read the site more
[15:22] <riddlebox> http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[15:22] <riddlebox> pretty much spells it out ;)
[15:41] <matt_> I'm having some config issues with lirc, if anyone is around?
[15:41] <matt_> I have an Imon IR/LCD panel, that was OEMd in my Antec Black Fusion 430 case.
[15:42] <matt_> It didn't come with a remote, so I'm using the remote that came with my Hauppauge HVR-1800
[15:42] <matt_> I'm just confused about configuration.
[15:42] <matt_> Do I set the lircd.conf "Driver" value to the receiver or the remote?
[15:43] <matt_> I had it set to "imon" yesterday, on my first, unsuccessful try, and I was able to see codes being received, using "mode2".
[15:44] <matt_> But other than that, there was no funtionality with the remote.
[15:45] <matt_> The remote model, if it matters, seems to be an MCE-compatible remote with the model # RRS9002-86XXF
[16:47] <bimbel> moin
[17:38] <hansoffate> hello
[17:39] <hansoffate> my EPG isn't showing my programming
[17:39] <hansoffate> and when i connect through mythweb
[17:39] <hansoffate> and try to get listings
[17:39] <hansoffate> i get this - error string:  SQL Error: Table './mythconverg/oldrecorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired [#145]
[17:39] <hansoffate>     filename:  /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/objects/Database_Query_mysql.php
[17:39] <hansoffate>     errornum:  256
[17:39] <hansoffate> any idea what to do?
[18:27] <hansoffate> anyone here?
[18:29] <bimbel> no
[18:29] <bimbel> :D
[18:29] <hansoffate> heh, bimbel do you know how to fix a crashed mysql database/
[18:29] <hansoffate> i think i should start backing up my databases ... i haven't started doing it
[18:29] <hansoffate> and now one of them needs to be repaired
[18:31] <bimbel> backup and reinstall? i'm new here
[18:32] <hansoffate> reinstall mythbuntu? ... no way, i finallly got it setup the way i want
[18:32] <hansoffate> lol
[18:32] <hansoffate> well i'll do it as a last resort, i'll wait to get some other answers
[18:33] <bimbel> no
[18:33] <bimbel> i think
[18:33] <bimbel> backup the database
[18:33] <bimbel> and reinstall it
[18:36] <Diabolic> I have a GeForce FX5200, using the DVI output to HDMI on the TV.  But the edges are cut off on the TV.
[18:37] <Daviey> overscan :(
[18:39] <Diabolic> k, it's not just when I enter Ubuntu.  It's like that at the BIOS startup and all.
[18:39] <Diabolic> Is it still overscan?
[18:42] <JGJones> Greetings
[18:42] <bimbel> moin
[18:42] <JGJones> Have a wee icky problem with my happauge tv card....
[18:43] <JGJones> set top box picks up all digital tv channels in Freeview just fine.
[18:43] <Darkmystere> hi
[18:43] <JGJones> happauge card only picks up channels from 2 um...what do you call them...blocks (if I remember rightly, a small collection of channels are broadcast in blocks, 6 blocks making up all of freeview?)
[18:44] <JGJones> so that means I get BBC etc, and Five and Film Four etc, but I do not get Channel 4, ITV etc
[18:45] <hansoffate> bimbel Moin Moin
[18:45] <bimbel> :)
[18:45] <JGJones> Signal strength on the set top box show about 60-70% for ITV, Channel 4 etc and close to 100% for BBC etc but my happuage card in mythtv shows that for BBC it is about 60%
[18:45] <Darkmystere> Do Any computer come Equiped with A compatible mythtv card\
[18:46] <JGJones> I'm guessing that happauge can't get ITV/Channel 4 etc cos the signal strength is too weak...but how come the set top box can do so just fine - so how can I test if the happauge's onboard booster is working?
[18:46] <JGJones> Darkmystere - yes if you're in UK, you can look at efficientPC.co.uk website - they sell computers with happauage tv cards
[18:49] <Daviey> JGJones: Have you followed the mythtv wiki guide?
[18:50] <JGJones> Yes including setting the option to enable the booster in erm.../etc/modules/option (something like that)
[18:50] <Daviey> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options
[18:50] <Daviey> Add: options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1
[18:50] <JGJones> that's the one
[18:50] <JGJones> yes I did that one.
[18:50] <Daviey> then it should be working :)
[18:51] <JGJones> Just double chkeced on mythtv-backend server - yup it's set
[18:52] <JGJones> so should I assume that either a) the booster is really really crap or b) it's broken
[18:53] <Daviey> i'd check ariel and coax
[18:53] <Darkmystere> ooh
[18:53] <Darkmystere> I bought my Toshiba Sattilite from UK
[18:54] <JGJones> Daviey: I've even tested using the same cable that goes into the set top box (I want to just get rid of it, it's an extremely cheap rubbish set top box and replace with mythtv fulltime)
[18:55] <hansoffate> So, anyone know how to fix a crashed MYSQL database?
[18:55] <JGJones> and with new cable as well.
[18:55] <hansoffate> error string:  SQL Error: Table './mythconverg/oldrecorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired [#145]
[18:55] <hansoffate>     filename:  /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/objects/Database_Query_mysql.php
[18:55] <hansoffate>   error line:  73
[18:55] <Daviey> hmm.. JGJones the signal strength isn't necessarily accurate.. is the picture reliable?
[18:56] <JGJones> BBC et al - lovely picture however o nsome channels ie...hmm...Dave, or Virgin1 (both which are fine on set top box) can often break up into blocks.
[18:56] <Daviey> hmm
[18:56] <Daviey> I get that with CBeebies and Chan5
[18:57] <Daviey> but i blame that on ariel just shoved on the rafters
[18:57] <JGJones> btw my tv card is happuage nova-t 500 (dual digital tuner card)
[18:57] <Daviey> yeah, i use the standard one - PCI
[18:57] <JGJones> which I am aware that was only supported not long ago.
[18:57] <Daviey> your's is really 2 x USB :)
[18:58] <JGJones> aye...would it be a case of driver support?
[18:58] <Daviey> wouldnt think so
[18:58] <Daviey> no idea tho
[18:58] <JGJones> I'm perfectly happy to buy a new tv tuner card if that's what it would take to fix it - plenty of programmes that I'll like to be able to record on ITV or Channel 4 etc but not getting them.
[18:59] <Daviey> are you running it through an external booster?
[19:00] <JGJones> Nope - Tried that, no different on happuage, but made things worse on set top box.
[19:00] <Daviey> yeah, they can do that
[19:00] <Daviey> Thats what i was going to say :)
[19:03] <JGJones> sigh...it's a damn shame about that. I'll have to assume the onboard booster isn't working (I think it was rather flaky on Windows but then I've never liked happuage's drivers) - anyone suggest anything suitable? I only have a single PCI so would prefer dual digital tuners if possible.
[19:14] <hansoffate> so no one here knows how to fix an SQL Error?
[19:15] <hansoffate> Here is my Error, If anyone has anyideas, please tell them to me:   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3713/
[19:27] <JGJones> hansoffate: I don't know how to fix, but a quick good search about fixing errors suggest this - http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/05/31/how-to-quickie-repair-mysql-tables-in-phpmyadmin/
[19:27] <JGJones> have a read and see if that match your error in any way?
[19:32] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[19:38] <Aquahallic> anyone else seen any problems with going to the guide watching LiveTV... I've set the painter to Qt and it still will hang the box HARD.... no logs on anything to do with it anywhere that I can find
[20:03] <hasse_> hello, why dosent mythstream work i lastest nightly buid ? hasen't in weeks
[20:07] <hansoffate> JGJones I don't have phpmyadmin installed ... i think
[20:07] <hansoffate> JGJones if i do just an apt-get and install it, it will be at localhost/phpmyadmin
[20:07] <hansoffate> right?
[20:08] <hasse_> yes,
[20:09] <hansoffate> thanks, hasse_ - i am am not using the nightly builds of mythstream, but my mythstream has been fully updated and its still working
[20:09] <hansoffate> occasionally i get no stream, but if i try again in like 10 seconds, i can get the list of streams
[20:09] <hansoffate> isn't hasse_ a swedish nickname for Hans?
[20:09] <hasse_> i have a problem that the libmyth is in wrong veriosn.
[20:09] <hansoffate> i have a swedish friend that calls me Hasse
[20:10] <hasse_> im from denmark
[20:10] <hansoffate> oh
[20:10] <hansoffate> is your name Hans?
[20:10] <hasse_> hasse
[20:10] <hansoffate> ahh, i see, i was just wondering
[20:10] <hansoffate> thanks for the help, goign to try to repair this sql error now
[20:11] <hasse_> good luck
[20:11] <hansoffate> sorry i couldn't help with your mythstream error
[20:11] <hansoffate> thanks, bye
[20:17] <KjetilK> I'm trying to get my lircd up with two devices, with the help of http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Volume_Knob_on_Antec_Fusion and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649516#6
[20:18] <KjetilK> the two start-stop-daemon lines that eventually will be executed are
[20:18] <KjetilK> start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/lircd -- --driver=default --device=/dev/lirc_imon --output=/dev/lircd --pidfile=/var/run/lircd.pid --connect=localhost:8765
[20:18] <KjetilK> start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec /usr/sbin/lircd -- --driver=default --device=/dev/lirc_pvr --output=/dev/lircd1 --pidfile=/var/run/lircd1.pid --listen
[20:18] <KjetilK> but it appears that I can only get one of them to run
[20:22] <KjetilK> the first line I run is left running after I've launched both, the other is not started
[20:22] <KjetilK> regardless of which of them I run first
[20:23] <KjetilK> I see this in my syslog:
[20:23] <KjetilK> Jan 20 21:18:26 tigger lircd-0.8.2[7433]: failure connecting to localhost
[20:23] <KjetilK> Jan 20 21:18:26 tigger lircd-0.8.2[7433]: Connection refused
[20:38] <Bastian> hallo
[22:07] <MythbuntuGuest76> Hey anyone know much about harddisk bandwith?
[22:08] <MythbuntuGuest76> I looking to see how many tuners IDE can handle
[22:10] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest76, wikipedia is your friend
[22:14] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest76, it obviously also depends on whether you want SD or HD
[22:32] <Seeker`> I have just upgraded to the weekly trunk build, and it cannot find libmythtv-0.20.2.so.0
[22:33] <Seeker`> any ideas?
[22:52] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991_laptop, ping
[22:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883_laptop: pong
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I read that blog post on blockbuster
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> I was less than impressed
[22:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> it was kinda a rant
[22:54] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[22:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> I didn't know they had all those restrictions on the instore stuff though
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> as it stands, the only benefit that netflix has is the instant PC download
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> which i dont think works all too well in linux
[22:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> or at all
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> exactly
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> i read the 3 complaints that he had
[22:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> you get RSS feeds to mess with with netflix
[22:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> nothing like that with BBO (that I am aware of)
[22:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> and I'm not interested in paying more for "free" instore options
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> and I must say, that I think that 90% was his own fault
[22:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats my main complaint with BBO, their false advertising
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> true
[22:56] <tgm4883_laptop> that and they keep jacking the price up
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> that will be the reason I leave BB
[22:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> I've been happy with netflix so far
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> although, for roughly the same price, I can have a few instore exchanges
[22:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya, if you use that option its great
[22:57] <tgm4883_laptop> if I could get pc d/l in mythbuntu i'd switch right now
[22:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> I doubt that will happen any time soon
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> i also question how long he has had blockbuster
[22:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> I contemplated calling them up and asking for a discount cause that feature doesn't work with my OS
[22:59] <tgm4883_laptop> someone should write a better netflix plugin
[23:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> the current one is broken
[23:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> or it was the last I checked
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm looking at some of the vista mce plugins
[23:00] <tgm4883_laptop> which are kinda nice
[23:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> I won't touch vista with a 10 foot pole
[23:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> I prefer my resources not wasted on random drm crap
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> well i have to look, it's my job
[23:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> how so?
[23:02] <tgm4883_laptop> well this week, my job requires me to research and compare/contrast different home a/v solutions
[23:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> ah
[23:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> gonna pimp out mythtv?
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> sometimes I have restrictions, such as directv only :(
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> depending on where the home is located
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> that new hauppauge card will come in handy :)
[23:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> hopefully linux support for it wont take as long as the current hauppauge HD cards
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> I dont think it will
[23:04] <tgm4883_laptop> not after all the hard work MS went to get that directv tuner box
[23:05] <tgm4883_laptop> also, since this will be the only card like it, there should be a few hackers working on it from the start
[23:06] <tgm4883_laptop> the xbox works pretty well as a frontend, although i found a few more quirks
[23:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> like?
[23:07] <tgm4883_laptop> but nothing that the normal user would run into
[23:07] <tgm4883_laptop> except for the live tv thing
[23:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> ever get live tv working?
[23:08] <tgm4883_laptop> well, i scheduled a recording of a show in progress (NFL) while another show was already recording, then canceled the current show.  The NFL show still showed a conflict though
[23:09] <tgm4883_laptop> and wouldn't show up in mythweb either
[23:09] <tgm4883_laptop> i had to go to a real frontend to fix it by reactivating the show
[23:09] <tgm4883_laptop> nope, never got live tv working, although i haven't tried ;)
[23:10] <tgm4883_laptop> I think it's better for everyone to just learn the new way to watch TV
[23:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> I hardly ever use the live tv functionality actually
[23:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> so that doesn't bother me much
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> me neither
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> it's like, whats the point?
[23:11] <tgm4883_laptop> if I wanted to watch commercials, i wouldn't have bought a mythbox
[23:29] <javatexan> howdy all
[23:29] <javatexan> I am having trouble using my duo 2 core....;) I know that what I am asking ubuntu to run will be more than 100 and thats okay, I want it to use both cores.....why is it working so hard to keep things under 100 percent with the other core idle?
[23:29] <Tar1> it's probably using both cores
[23:30] <Tar1> 100% generally is full utilization of both cores
[23:30] <javatexan> how can you tell, and why is my video playback skipping
[23:30] <javatexan> ;)
[23:31] <javatexan> should I change the setting to mplayer within myth to have it be more greedy?
[23:31] <javatexan> can I nice it....like nice 10 mplayer.....blah...blah?
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop> javatexan, what is the output of uname -a
[23:32] <javatexan> Linux spacestation 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:40] <jakemonO> runnoing mythbuntu 7.10 and mythfilldatabase isnt happening automagicaly...anyone know why/how to fix? thanx in adv.
[23:46] <jakemonO> ...i ssh in and run  run it manually very few days...bit of a pain...i c daleq just posted same q on official mythbuntu forum, plz reply there for canonical purposes & I'll pick up thread through my subscription
[23:50] <pdragon> check the backend log to see if it gives you any idea?


[20:03] <robotdevil> its for someone on windows and I thought they could use gimp
[20:04] <jamie_> you can
[20:04] <theadmin> robotdevil: Windows? Just give them FormatFactory.
[20:04] <theadmin> Converts video, audio and image formats.
[20:04] <jamie_> you just use save as and the change the file extention to correct one that you wanted
[20:04] <robotdevil> the logo website is very specific about the file type they will accept
[20:04] <theadmin> Also extracts audio from video.
[20:05] <undecim> Mathis, I think you're going about this all the wrong way, and that's part of the problem
[20:05] <Mathis> undecim: how do you mean?
[20:05] <undecim> Mathis, where will the other copies go?
[20:05] <Mathis> to other clients of the same computer model
[20:06] <undecim> Mathis, then you definitely need to use OEM mode install
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> robotdevil  changing the file to .tiff does not change the color depth
[20:06] <Mathis> and what does it do differently?
[20:06] <undecim> Mathis, Well for one, the user can enter their own username and password when they first boot
[20:06] <Mathis> heh
[20:06] <Mathis> the clients will be running unattended
[20:06] <abudhabi> Anyone skilled with grub here?
[20:06] <robotdevil> ok ill check out format factory, but I am curious, I installed gimp on my buntu machine and copy and pasted the image and chose save as I got a limited slection of file types
[20:06] <Mathis> no keyboard/mouse, just a screen
[20:07] <undecim> Mathis, oh, well then just do an install the the thumb drive
[20:07] <squinty> !ask | abudhabi
[20:07] <Mathis> also the USB drives must be exchangable, if one fails
[20:07] <abudhabi> I want grub to recognize Win7, but it can't seem to find it. Here's what boot-repair spat out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9769234/
[20:07] <undecim> Mathis, sounds like you just want a LiveUSB, then?
[20:07] <undecim> Mathis, nothing needs to be saved?
[20:07] <Mathis> more like a kiosk mode
[20:07] <robotdevil> .xcf and bzip
[20:08] <eatyourguitar> why so many emacs packages in package manager?
[20:08] <Mathis> there will be images stored on the drive when diving to the slideshow website
[20:08] <jemendja> morning
[20:08] <eatyourguitar> what is the main one?
[20:08] <undecim> Mathis, If you use the startup disk creator to make a USB, you can give it persistent storage
[20:08] <minimec> eatyourguitar: 'sudo apt-get install emacs' will install emacs24 and some others...
[20:09] <minimec> eatyourguitar: Some other files... ;)
[20:09] <keithclark> I have burned an usb iso image but now when I try to boot from it it gives me a 'filesystem unknown' error.  Ideas?
[20:09] <robotdevil> oh i have to select export as ...
[20:09] <Mathis> undecim: thanks for the tip :)
[20:10] <undecim> keithclark, did you verify the ISO?
[20:10] <robotdevil> thanks peeps :)
[20:10] <keithclark> undecim, yes
[20:10] <undecim> keithclark, Did you verify the burn?
[20:10] <eatyourguitar> is it ok to use apt get and the ubuntu software manager?
[20:10] <undecim> eatyourguitar, yes
[20:10] <keithclark> undecim, no, this program does not have this option
[20:11] <lawr> !op | AfterTheRain
[20:11] <undecim> keithclark, there should still be a "verify disc image" option or similar in the boot menu
[20:11] <Mathis> undecim: I found the solution
[20:11] <keithclark> undecim, nope, just a grup screen
[20:11] <Mathis> undecim: interested to hear?
[20:11] <keithclark> *grub
[20:11] <undecim> Mathis, yes
[20:12] <undecim> keithclark, Oh, I missed the "usb" part
[20:12] <Mathis> undecim: maybe you know it or not, for EFI to boot your disk, you have to create a vfat partition containing the bootloader
[20:12] <keithclark> undecim, is it maybe a drive naming error?  It calls for hd0,0
[20:12] <undecim> keithclark, how did you prepare the USB?
[20:12] <Mathis> if you install Ubuntu on a UEFI machine, it registers its bootloader into the NVRAM
[20:13] <keithclark> undecim, gparted
[20:13] <undecim> keithclark, Any reason you didn't use Unetbootin or the Startup Disk Creator?
[20:13] <Mathis> since I am using another machine, where it is not registered, it has nothing to boot from and falls back to /BOOT/bootx64.efi
[20:13] <keithclark> undecim, they did not work.  I had to resort to the command line 'dd' command
[20:14] <Mathis> I simply created that folder and copied over the grubx64.efi to /boot/bootx64.efi
[20:14] <Mathis> now it boots even on a non-registered machine
[20:14] <undecim> keithclark, They didn't work? What happened?
[20:14] <keithclark> undecim, then the successfully booted arch program took over and did its thing
[20:15] <keithclark> undecim, is hd(0,0) the usb stick?
[20:15] <undecim> keithclark, maybe
[20:15]  * phunyguy looks up
[20:15] <phunyguy> lawr: whatsup?
[20:16] <boriseto> undecim, the script downloaded over a million fonts (all but Tahoma :) ) so I installed it manually and the site is rendered as it should now. Thank you very much.
[20:16] <undecim> boriseto, Any time
[20:16] <keithclark> undecim, any other ideas?
[20:17] <undecim> keithclark, Get Unetbootin working
[20:18] <keithclark> undecim, so complicated for such a simple thing.
[20:19] <undecim> keithclark, Booting on modern computers is hardly "simple" these days
[20:20] <twocarlo>  Ypi
[20:20] <twocarlo> Ypu
[20:20] <twocarlo> Ypu
[20:20] <undecim> twocarlo, more coffee, less of whatever you've been having.
[20:20] <bubbasaures> twocarlo, Can we help you?
[20:22] <twocarlo> You can try multisystem
[20:23] <bubbasaures> twocarlo, Preface with nicks
[20:25] <twocarlo> Yumi also works
[20:26] <DJones> twocarlo: Are you speakingto anybody specific, or are you a bot posting random text
[20:28] <keithclark> undecim, hmm, I seem to be stuck here
[20:28] <Voline> 1
[20:28] <twocarlo> I'm Irc ing on my droid php
[20:29] <twocarlo> Php
[20:29] <twocarlo> Phone
[20:30] <twocarlo> Bit hard to type
[20:30]  * Dat needs a smtp proxy
[20:32] <bubbasaures> keithclark, I have had ISO's that summed correctly not work.
[20:35] <twocarlo>  Brb
[20:36] <abudhabi> Where do I find refind.conf?
[20:36] <jhutchins> keithclark: 0,0 is probably the HD.
[20:36] <abudhabi> I want to configure rEFInd but I can't bloody find where the configuration file is stored.
[20:37] <keithclark> jhutchins, how do I find the usb stick?
[20:37] <jhutchins> keithclark: What point are you at now?
[20:37] <jhutchins> keithclark: From what?
[20:38] <keithclark> I boot up and I get:  Error 25 Disk read error
[20:38] <undecim> That's not fun
[20:38] <jhutchins> keithclark: Is that booting from your hard drive or from an installer?
[20:38] <keithclark> jhutchins, but I get a grub screen so it must recognize the drive, no?
[20:39] <keithclark> jhutchins, from the usb drive
[20:40] <PCWorker> Hello yall, I have started writing reviews using the software center in ubunntu 14.04LTS and want to know what the "Summary" box is used for? I just want to make sure that I put all the necessary information on the form.
[20:40] <jhutchins> keithclark: What dd command did you use to create it/
[20:40] <jhutchins> ?
[20:40] <keithclark> jhutchins, 'Filesystem type unkown...'
[20:40] <keithclark> jhutchins, dd
[20:40] <jhutchins> keithclark: It's probably easier to recreate the image than to fix it.
[20:41] <keithclark> jhutchins, no, internal program.  I did a dd to install the original program then it installed itself.
[20:41] <squinty> abudhabi:  you can try   whereis <filename>   or   locate <filename>  (you may need to run  sudo updatedb  first)  if the file you are looking for is on your system then either of those commands should find it
[20:42] <abudhabi> squinty: Thanks. Found it.
[20:42] <jhutchins> keithclark: So did you use the USB to install to the USB?
[20:42] <keithclark> yes
[20:42] <El-Osmodivs> Hello :) I found an old HDD and tried to recover whatever I had there, the thing is it was encrypted, well, I Yahoo some solutions and finally could mount the HDD in a /tmp folder, the thing is is just a bunch of folders full of encrypted stuuf that cant be read:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/82499  How can I read my stuff?
[20:42] <jhutchins> keithclark: Well, there's your problem then.
[20:42] <jhutchins> keithclark: Why not just run the live image as it comes?
[20:42] <kostkon> PCWorker, how many boxes are there
[20:43] <keithclark> jhutchins, because it is not complete
[20:43] <jhutchins> keithclark: Well, it is, but I take it you want additional software...
[20:43] <keithclark> jhutchins, https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/
[20:43] <jhutchins> !live
[20:43] <PCWorker> kostkon: Review box and summary box
[20:44] <jhutchins> keithclark: There's a site called pendrivelinux.com that has a lot of good info on creating custom live systems.
[20:44] <kostkon> PCWorker, then the summary is the title
[20:44] <keithclark> jhutchins, maybe try what I did?
[20:44] <jhutchins> keithclark: It'll tell you how to do a persistent live system, and by storing the system on squashfs it's _much_ faster than a normal install to a USB drive.
[20:45] <jhutchins> keithclark: A standard install to a USB flash drive is pretty unusably slow.
[20:45] <jhutchins> PCWorker: The summary should be a one-sentance description of the review.
[20:46] <PCWorker> Cool, Thanks
[20:46] <jhutchins> keithclark: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[20:47] <jhutchins> keithclark: You can not install on the same device that the installer is on.
[20:47] <minimec> jhutchins: I cannot confirm that! I have a full Ubuntu/Fedora dual boot USB3 stick. Loving it ... ;) I would install 'zram-config' after installation and change /etc/fstab to crate the /tmp file in RAM too.
[20:47] <erikk> Hello. Several months back, while trying to install Ubuntu on my new laptop with some UEFI / bios complications, my Windows partition got erased or messed up. I've used TestDisk to find this: http://i.imgur.com/TvwZY1B.png
[20:48] <erikk> How do I go about trying to salvage any of this?
[20:48] <keithclark> jhutchins, seems it did.  If it is on a different partion it should not be an issue
[20:48] <erikk> I'm not too experienced with it. Do I try to make a partition out of these kind of addresses?
[20:48] <jhutchins> keithclark: Yes, but the installer image does not have multiple partitions.  This is why you are getting an error.
[20:49] <bubbasaures> erikk, That is a ##windows issue really.
[20:49] <erikk> bubbasaures: Thanks. I wasn't quite sure where to ask.
[20:49] <erikk> bubbasaures: But even then I don't think they would be the ones to ask
[20:50] <cpyarger> A framework for bash scripting -- http://git.io/DV5eow
[20:50] <erikk> Where should I go then?
[20:50] <bubbasaures> erikk, It is just recovery and you can just do a refresh or reset on windows, just have ubuntu imaged and or backed up.
[20:50] <squinty> erikk:  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[20:50] <Guest64909> Will Ubuntu with unity run well on a Core 2 Duo?
[20:51] <Yoyoooo> Hi there.
[20:51] <minimec> Guest64909: yes with 2GB RAM. CPU is more than enough
[20:51] <jhutchins> keithclark: I dunno, you could try the standard grub recovery methods, boot to the grub cli and do "find /boot/grub/stage1" - if it exists it would probably be hd0,1 (though I still think hd0 would be your hard drive).
[20:51] <bubbasaures> Guest64909, does here, naming the exact hardware is the key.
[20:51] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[20:51] <weeirc8089> hello I try to install truecrypt 6.3a and I get 'dependency is not satisfiable - fuse-utils' what's my course of action? (I have mint 17 e.g. ubuntu 14.04 the setup file is a monolithic file where do I get this 'fuse-utils' package / compile it myself so truecrypt would install
[20:52] <bubbasaures> weeirc8089, 3rd party not supported.
[20:52] <Guest64909> It's a Dell D830.  Machine has 4 gigs of ram, 60 gig SSD.  Quadro 140M.
[20:52] <jhutchins> weeirc8089: mint != ubuntu for precicely this kind of problem.
[20:52] <jhutchins> !mint
[20:52] <keithclark> jhutchins, right, why would I want to boot from my hd? I want to boot from my newly created usb stick
[20:52] <bubbasaures> Guest64909, Should run great, try the live.
[20:53] <Guest64909> Thanks, wasn't sure if I should grab l/xubuntu, but I'll give the full version a shot.  Thanks!
[20:55] <jhutchins> keithclark: Have a look at that second URL, it might get you somewhere.  I think you're wasting your time though.  You'd be better off using something like debootstrap.
[20:55] <jhutchins> keithclark: I think you're just about as likely to get it to boot from that USB as you are getting it to boot from a rubber chicken.
[20:55] <Yoyoooo> Is there anything officially supported hardware for Ubuntu, excluding the dell XPS 13 ?
[20:57] <jhutchins> Yoyoooo: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[20:57] <Yoyoooo> jhutchins: Thanks.
[21:05] <keithclark>  jhutchins yeah, I gave up.  I hope someone can make this project work as it sounds worthy.
[21:07] <El-Osmodivs> Hello :) I found an old HDD and tried to recover whatever I had there, the thing is it was encrypted, well, I Yahoo some solutions and finally could mount the HDD in a /tmp folder, the thing is is just a bunch of folders full of encrypted stuuf that cant be read:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/82499  How can I read my stuff?
[21:09] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, ubuntu related how?
[21:09] <locamsb> how do i mount an ext4 filesystem in my fstab so that all users can read/write to it and it is auto mounted at boot? i can't  figure out the options
[21:10] <squinty> El-Osmodivs:  look around your abode for where you stored the password  ;-)
[21:10] <locamsb> UUID="5cf891fe-c451-4f1e-b281-12f3ca355eb3" /mnt/storage ext4    rw,user,exec,noatime 0 2
[21:10] <locamsb> only rooot can write to this, how do i fix?
[21:11] <EriC^^> locamsb: you could change the permissions of the files
[21:11] <locamsb> how do i just make it so all users can write to the drive?
[21:12] <EriC^^> 776 will let all users read and write
[21:12] <locamsb> do i add that to fstab?
[21:12] <EriC^^> no you have to change the permissions for the files
[21:12] <EriC^^> chmod -R 776 /mountpoint
[21:12] <locamsb> what?
[21:13] <basichash> does gnome-maps work for anyone?
[21:13] <locamsb> why?
[21:13] <basichash> does nothing when i attempt to open it
[21:13] <EriC^^> locamsb: that will change the permissions of all the files in the filesystem you're mounting
[21:13] <jhutchins> basichash: Basic troublshooting step for GUI programs: Launch it from a console, see if it displays errors.
[21:13] <locamsb> will that hold up if i reboot though?
[21:14] <El-Osmodivs> bubbasaures, I am on Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits
[21:14] <EriC^^> locamsb: i dont think you can mount ext4 with certain permissions like ntfs
[21:14] <EriC^^> locamsb: yeah
[21:14] <Nathan2055> I'm loading KDE and lirc is asking what remote control configuration to use. What do I pick?
[21:14] <jhutchins> EriC^^: Of course you can.
[21:14] <locamsb> is this the correct solution or just an easy solution?
[21:15] <EriC^^> jhutchins: you can mount an ext4 with say 777 on all files?
[21:15] <jhutchins> EriC^^: You can't override the permissions on the files in the filesystem.  I think I misunderstood you.
[21:17] <locamsb> i have a folder showing up as d????????? ? ?    ?       ?            ? when i ls -l on it. i can't delete it. how can i remove this?
[21:18] <Seryth> What do you mean when you ls -l you can't delete it, locamsb?
[21:19] <locamsb> when i do ls -l it shows whacky permissiosn and info
[21:19] <locamsb> and when i try to rm -rf it it says it is a folder can't delete
[21:19] <Seryth> locamsb, where did this folder come from?
[21:20] <locamsb> i created it in /mnt
[21:20] <locamsb> now i can't get rid of it, sudo rm -rf /mnt/folder
[21:20] <Seryth> What is the error message when you try, locamsb?
[21:20] <basichash> jhutchins: good idea. this is what i get: ** (gnome-maps:24034): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6AOWn5u1AJ: Connection refused
[21:20] <locamsb> rm: cannot remove `dell': Is a directory
[21:20] <basichash> whatever that means
[21:20] <locamsb> lol
[21:23] <EriC^^> locamsb: are you sure you're using -r ?
[21:23] <locamsb> uh yes bro
[21:24] <EriC^^> locamsb: do you only want the users to create new files? or modify whichever files are already there?
[21:24] <locamsb> im trying to delete what seems to be a corrupted folder
[21:24] <EriC^^> locamsb: yeah i meant about what you were asking earlier
[21:24] <locamsb> i googled that EriC^^ and i found that 'There are no uid options for ext[234]. If you want to change the permissions of the files, you have to use chown/chmod.'
[21:25] <basichash> jhutchins: any ideas?
[21:25] <locamsb> so looks like chmod was the solution
[21:25] <EriC^^> locamsb: yeah, but if you only want them to create new files and modify their own ones, you can just chmod the mountpoint's dir and leave the rest of the files in tact
[21:26] <basichash> jhutchins: I am using Pantheon from elementaryos btw, not sure if that should have any effect
[21:26] <locamsb> this is just a spare harddrive i installed in my comptuer
[21:26] <locamsb> i wanted to achieve this. have the drive mounted at boot. be able to read/write from it from my account and not have to use root.
[21:26] <EriC^^> locamsb: ok, well, use chmod 777 instead of 776, cause without x they can't cd to sub dirs
[21:26] <locamsb> i believe i have accomplished this by doing chmod 770 and chown root:locasmb
[21:27] <locamsb> i read that doing chmod 777 is a bad idea so i did chmod 770
[21:27] <locamsb> lol
[21:28] <locamsb> " recursive 777 chmod is definitlely a very bad idea –  Kiwy Mar 25 '14 at 10:33 "
[21:28] <EriC^^> it depends on what you're doing
[21:28] <EriC^^> anyways glad you got it fixed
[21:29] <locamsb> thx m8 eraggo
[21:29] <locamsb> EriC^^:
[21:30] <basichash> anyone?
[21:30] <locamsb> basichash what's happening?
[21:31] <basichash> locamsb: the app just isn't loading, and gives the error ^
[21:31] <basichash> ** (gnome-maps:24034): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6AOWn5u1AJ: Connection refused
[21:31] <basichash> ^
[21:32] <locamsb> what app basichash?
[21:32] <basichash> also i'm not using stock ubuntu (i'm not exactly sure how it all works, but i'm using the Pantheon skin(? or whatever it is) from elementaryos
[21:32] <basichash> locamsb: gnome-maps
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> basichash  what's the oucome of   cat /etc/issue
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> outcome*
[21:34] <bubbasaures> basichash, Is this elemantaryOS?
[21:34] <Authenticme> F*uck Comodo SSL! absolutley impossible to install! (aa)
[21:34] <bubbasaures> !language | Authenticme
[21:34] <basichash> bubbasaures: ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[21:34] <Authenticme> grr
[21:35] <Authenticme> Hows every body ?
[21:35] <basichash> MonkeyDust: ^
[21:35] <bubbasaures> I think your lying but that is just me
[21:37] <gopar> anybody use global/gtags for programming? how do you like it?
[21:37] <avid_fan> basichash: Looks like Gnome-Maps also has a support channel, irc://irc.gimp.org/%23gnome-maps
[21:37] <DJones> basichash: Can you post the full details of cat /etc/issue for the avoidance of doubt
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> basichash  paste the outcome of    cat /etc/os-release|grep N=
[21:38] <basichash> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[21:38] <EriC^^> basichash: lsb_release -d | base64
[21:38] <basichash> EriC^^: RGVzY3JpcHRpb246CVVidW50dSAxNC4wNC4xIExUUwo=\
[21:38] <basichash> EriC^^: RGVzY3JpcHRpb246CVVidW50dSAxNC4wNC4xIExUUwo=
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok
[21:39] <basichash> MonkeyDust: VERSION="14.04.1 LTS, Trusty Tahr"
[21:39] <basichash> but just to reiterate, i'm using Pantheon (still not exactly sure what this is)
[21:40] <basichash> window manager for elementaryOS or something
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> basichash why do you use it, if you don't know what it is?
[21:41] <RedheadedCupcake> Can i get help with my Bluetooth, when I turn it on it turns off immediately it wont stay on
[21:43] <basichash> MonkeyDust: lol good questoin. the desktop-environment
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> basichash  and now it's getting you into trouble?
[21:44] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: I've not used bluetooth yet, but is there anything in the syslog or dmesg about the device?
[21:44] <RedheadedCupcake> avid_fan tell me the magic code put into terminal and I will tell you what it says
[21:45] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: Oh,sure. Let's try 'tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:46] <Ben64> wow, never heard of termbin, that is fantastic
[21:46] <RedheadedCupcake> avid_fan what's that termbin deal?
[21:47] <avid_fan> Ben64: Yeah, just found  out about it the other day.
[21:47] <RedheadedCupcake> avid_fan nvm that is awesome
[21:47] <RedheadedCupcake> http://termbin.com/cvsa
[21:47] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: And next 'demsg | tail -n 100 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:48] <RedheadedCupcake> it says use netcat no command 'dmesg' found
[21:49] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: Doh, sorry, I can't type.
[21:50] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: 'dmesg | tail -n 100 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:50] <basichash> MonkeyDust: i don't know if it's related to Pantheon
[21:51] <guest_> does anyone know if youtube-dl still works?
[21:51] <RedheadedCupcake> avid_fan http://termbin.com/vzsn
[21:51] <PenguinAnon> guest_ still works great.
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> guest_  it does
[21:51] <PenguinAnon> The version in the 14.04 repos is outdated, though.
[21:51] <guest_> so how do i update it?
[21:51] <PenguinAnon> I can't speak to 14.10
[21:51] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: Don't know if you found this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192847/bluetooth-and-wifi-not-working-on-hp-probook-4430s , but it looks like someone had problem with bluetooth and the HP Probook 4430s.
[21:52] <PenguinAnon> guest_ Let me grab you the PPA.
[21:52] <guest_> thanks
[21:52] <Ben64> don't need a ppa for it, just use the update command that it comes with
[21:52] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: I can't speak to its success. It's merely the first thing I've found.
[21:52] <RedheadedCupcake> my wifi works fine
[21:53] <abudhabi> How do I install ubuntu in BIOS mode?
[21:53] <PenguinAnon> Ben64: That's not correct.
[21:53] <Ben64> PenguinAnon: it is
[21:54] <PenguinAnon> If you installed youtube-dl with a package manager, it instructs you to use that to update.
[21:54] <PenguinAnon> when you use -U
[21:54] <EriC^^> abudhabi: select bios/legacy mode in the bios options, and when you boot the usb make sure uefi usb isn't selected
[21:54] <guest_> yeah I just found that out
[21:54] <PenguinAnon> guest_ Here we are
[21:54] <PenguinAnon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[21:55] <PenguinAnon> That'll give you the most recent version.
[21:55] <abudhabi> EriC^^: How do I make sure the UEFI USB isn't selected?
[21:55] <RedheadedCupcake> avid_fan it's not a big deal I just wanted to bluetooth some pictures from my cell phone to my lap top.
[21:55] <RedheadedCupcake> I just emailed them to myself, it's not worth the hassle
[21:55] <EriC^^> abudhabi: if you get a screen that shows what to boot, select usb ( without uefi )
[21:56] <bubbasaures> PenguinAnon, We don't support ppa's here hence we ask no links except if that is all there is.
[21:56] <bubbasaures> last possible fix in other words
[21:57] <EriC^^> abudhabi: make sure it doesn't say uefi next to it
[21:57] <PenguinAnon> bubbasaures: Sorry about that. I was unaware =)
[21:57] <avid_fan> RedheadedCupcake: Understood. Looks like the bluetooth device might be USB anb it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting. But there's no smoking gun.
[21:57] <PenguinAnon> guest_ In that case, just grab the most recent tarball from the Git repo.
[21:58] <bubbasaures> PenguinAnon, Anything install not in the releases repo set is not supported either, are you getting the picture?
[21:58] <eatyourguitar> I need help understanding how directory names work
[21:58] <eatyourguitar> ls ~/.lein/plugins
[21:58] <eatyourguitar> does not work
[21:58] <guest_> well, I already added the PPA
[21:58] <eatyourguitar> I have installed a bin to /usr/bin/lein
[21:58] <eatyourguitar> but I don
[21:59] <eatyourguitar> I don't know if . has special meaning
[21:59] <aa40bc> Any way to get dell to let you get the new xps13 without windoze? In their chat they say no
[21:59] <bubbasaures> !topic | aa40bc
[21:59] <avid_fan> aa40bc: Doubt it.
[21:59] <eatyourguitar> sudo find "lein" only has one hit
[21:59] <eatyourguitar> nothing with .lein
[22:00] <eatyourguitar> I am doing the find from $/
[22:01] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: the tilde '~' typically redirects to your home directory.
[22:01] <eatyourguitar> I mean /$
[22:01] <guest_> PenguinAnon, still doesn't work. I get a 403 error
[22:01] <eatyourguitar> yes there are some differences with the default install dir they use and how my older version of lein was installed
[22:02] <eatyourguitar> find showed it in /usr/bin
[22:02] <eatyourguitar> not ~/bin
[22:02] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: And I could see an app needing or even creating a folder '.lein' in your home directory, but to execute a binary app you copied/moved to /usr/bin, you'd just type 'lein'.
[22:02] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: The path '/usr/bin' should be the search path of your shell.
[22:02] <eatyourguitar> thats what I thought
[22:03] <eatyourguitar> but find .lein does not work
[22:03] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: I'd guess, because it doesn't exist.
[22:03] <bubbasaures> guest_, You were thrown off by an outdated comment, use the version in the ubuntu repos and do a ppa-purge
[22:03] <eatyourguitar> I used mv to move the old one to a temp folder lein1
[22:03] <eatyourguitar> and wget to install to /usr/bin/
[22:04] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: Directories and files that start with a period '.' don't show in a standard 'ls' output.
[22:04] <bubbasaures> !ppa-purge | guest_
[22:04] <hans_> hi guys
[22:04] <guest_> bubbasaures, I have no clue what that means
[22:04] <hans_> i have install compiz on my ubuntu-mate and now i lost some keybindings
[22:04] <bubbasaures> guest_, Try to explain what you do not understand.
[22:04] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: What is the output when you type 'lein' in the terminal?
[22:05] <eatyourguitar> ok now it works sudo find -name ".lein"
[22:05] <eatyourguitar> gives me ./home/bob/.lein
[22:05] <eatyourguitar> I don't know what I was doing wrong with find
[22:06] <EriC^^> eatyourguitar: find needs the ""
[22:06] <Tabatha23>  Free Porn for Life!. Click Here! http://tny.de/patJ2
[22:06] <bubbasaures> wait for the ban'
[22:06] <guest_> bubbasaures, I can't make sense of what you said.
[22:06] <EriC^^> eatyourguitar: ah nevermind
[22:07] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: You can also use '-iname' it will ignore letter case.
[22:07] <eatyourguitar> good tip ty
[22:07] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: Are you all set then?
[22:08] <bubbasaures> guest_, Here we only support what is in the ubuntu repositories for your exact release I.E. say 14.04, ppa's are not supported, you can remove it with ppa-purge and then just install the repos version.
[22:08] <eatyourguitar> wow I just noticed I can do find "*lein*"
[22:09] <bubbasaures> guest_, Latest is not a valid rhetoric if it is not in the ubuntu repos as far as support.
[22:09] <eatyourguitar> how do I grep the output for "plugins"
[22:10] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: Yeah. lol. You can limit your search too with '-type f' for just files or '-type d' for just directories. There's tons of options.
[22:10] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: What "plugins"?
[22:10] <eatyourguitar> its a folder that has some .jar files for lein
[22:11] <bubbasaures> eatyourguitar, So tell me how you get that truss bar down.
[22:11] <eatyourguitar> I just upgraded I am checking versions and stuff
[22:11] <eatyourguitar> truss rob
[22:11] <eatyourguitar> and it stays in the guitar
[22:11] <eatyourguitar> down is ambiguous
[22:11] <eatyourguitar> you mean adjusted
[22:12] <bubbasaures> eatyourguitar,  your nick
[22:12] <eatyourguitar> *truss rod
[22:12] <guest_> bubbasaures, ok so you want me to install that program, ppa-purge, and get rid of the ppa I just grabbed. right?
[22:12] <eatyourguitar> dislexia
[22:12] <eatyourguitar> whats wrong with your guitar
[22:12] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: Ewww, java. Don't know that one. I would think if you can start it from the command-line you might see the output from the plugins too.
[22:13] <eatyourguitar> I don't want to run them directly
[22:13] <bubbasaures> guest_, YOu can do what you want, I was just helping you be aware of if you even have support with it or if it was even valid help.
[22:13] <eatyourguitar> they get called by the app
[22:13] <eatyourguitar> just need to find them so I can fix broken scripts
[22:13] <avid_fan> eatyourguitar: Gotcha. Beyond my experience with java.
[22:13] <eatyourguitar> this is all pretty new but I did read the tutorials
[22:14] <eatyourguitar> I don't even need to do any java
[22:14] <eatyourguitar> just need to install and maybe compile stuff
[22:14] <eatyourguitar> I am coding in clojure
[22:14] <eatyourguitar> but there are extensions for making music and graphics
[22:15] <eatyourguitar> lein installs most of it automatically
[22:15] <bubbasaures> guest_, You just did the first thing told to do, and it was not correct, and based on a "it is not the latest" in the repo, you gotta watch what you do and whom you listen to.
[22:15] <eatyourguitar> but I need to install this custom emacs config to call all the scripts that link these 5 apps
[22:16] <bubbasaures> no damage though
[22:16] <guest_> bubbasaures, look, I removed it ok. now how do I get youtube-dl to work?
[22:16] <eatyourguitar> been at it all day
[22:18] <bubbasaures> guest_, So you have the Ubuntu repos version installed now and it is not working?
[22:19] <guest_> bubbasaures, yes. everytime I try to use it I get a 403 error
[22:20] <eatyourguitar> I figured out why it was broke
[22:20] <eatyourguitar> I had to run lein for it to build the plugins folder
[22:21] <acy> selam
[22:22] <acy> türk var mı
[22:22] <bubbasaures> guest_, I have never used it, my guess is the url is incorrect.
[22:22] <acy> help pls
[22:23] <Caleb--> hi
[22:23] <acy> hi
[22:23] <acy> caleb
[22:23] <Caleb--> i'm running ubuntu 14.10 and i'd like to update my kernel to 3.18.3
[22:23] <acy> nice
[22:23] <acy> caleb help me
[22:23] <acy> pls
[22:23] <bubbasaures> guest_, try man youtube-dl
[22:23] <Caleb--> is it as simple as downloading debs from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.18.3-vivid/ ?
[22:23] <Caleb--> and simply running sudo dpkg -i *.deb?
[22:24] <acy> www.backboc.com and download
[22:24] <acy> guys ım new setup backbox
[22:24] <acy> but not write kod why??
[22:24] <bubbasaures> acy, This is ubuntu only support read the channel topic.
[22:24] <jflt> hello, I would like to erase ubuntu and reinstall windows from a boot CD but I can't choose my CD in the boot menu
[22:25] <acy> thanks
[22:25] <bubbasaures> jflt, YOU do not erase you install over and this is your channel ##windows
[22:25] <El-Osmodivs> Hello. I am trying to access my encrpted HDD but when I try to login via the Terminal I get this: Inserted auth tok with sig [5e6a449e9f5d1c5a] into the user session keyring
[22:25] <El-Osmodivs> fopen: No such file or directory
[22:25] <jflt> thanks bubbasaures
[22:26] <bubbasaures> jflt, NO problem should be fairly easy.
[22:26] <El-Osmodivs> Whats going on here, Why cant I access my files?
[22:26] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, You encrypted it so no one could see it, what makes you think you will?
[22:27] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, Would you have encrypted were it just easily busted?
[22:28] <El-Osmodivs> bubbasaures, It is an old 2.5" Laptop HDD, I can't boot from it, so I am trying to access via the Terminal in my Ubuntu 14.04 64bits. I just can give up my old data
[22:28] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, Read the questions.
[22:29] <bubbasaures> you're missing the password
[22:30] <El-Osmodivs> bubbasaures, It is encrypeted but is mine because I have the login password. I remembered the password, but the terminal gives me this: Inserted auth tok with sig [5e6a449e9f5d1c5a] into the user session keyring fopen: No such file or directory So the login password is correct
[22:30] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, So, we are back to my questions
[22:31] <Prezident> Hey guys, im installed ubuntu today and during the "test ubuntu" my graphic drivers worked, now it aint, built in on motherboard. So when i did apt-get upgrade after install then i get all very ugly and big and low resolution.
[22:31] <Prezident> How can i solve this?
[22:31] <El-Osmodivs> bubbasaures, You are saying there is no way to recover my data?
[22:31] <Prezident> shit!
[22:31] <Prezident> i pressed on "monitors" and then it worked
[22:31] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, I don't live in a world of dichotomies, that is your impression.
[22:32] <squinty> El-Osmodivs:  why can't you boot from it?
[22:32] <squinty> Prezident: family channel... please read channel rules.  :)
[22:32] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, I would say the likely hood is about the same as you being the next president of the US. ;)
[22:33] <Prezident> What did i do wrong squinty ?
[22:33] <bubbasaures> swearing
[22:33] <squinty> Prezident: read the channel rules.  no swearing
[22:33] <bubbasaures> not the local pub here ;)
[22:33] <Prezident> Ohh sh** wasnt for swearing it was like WOW!
[22:33] <Prezident> Sorry for that.
[22:33] <El-Osmodivs> squinty, It is a 2.5" laptop hdd, I am using an adapter via USB to try to access
[22:34] <El-Osmodivs> squinty, For some reason my Mobo wont recognize the adaptor in the BIOS
[22:34] <squinty> El-Osmodivs:  pull your current hd and install the other one temporally
[22:36] <avid_fan> El-Osmodivs: So you can access the drive via USB, just not boot from it?
[22:36] <El-Osmodivs> avid_fan, Yes
[22:37] <bubbasaures> El-Osmodivs, Your on a live ubuntu right?
[22:37] <avid_fan> El-Osmodivs: Okay. Are you trying to then mount  the encrypted volume/partition on the external drive?
[22:40] <dadexix86> hi everybody. which service does manage the screen on/off in Ubuntu's power management? (I need it for a script) and in which file can I find the screen on/off actual status? I tried to look in the folder /proc/acpi but couldn't find any hint
[22:41] <joshua__> quit
[22:44] <robotdevil> is the driver jockey thing broken in 14.10?
[22:45] <ki7mt_> dadexix86, trying studying the package  ... gnome-screensaver  .. it is not as easy as it sounds to control the screen and the various functions.
[22:45] <bubbasaures> robotdevil, additional drivers no
[22:45] <bubbasaures> robotdevil, The real issue might work better.
[22:45] <robotdevil> hmmm have an nvidia card, newish in there and doesnt list any drivers
[22:46] <robotdevil> geforce gt 720
[22:46] <bubbasaures> robotdevil, Hows it running, does it look good?
[22:46] <robotdevil> I know what your getting at
[22:46] <bubbasaures> robotdevil, really and it is?
[22:46] <CarlFK> NM, edit connection, Wifi... does "cloned mac address" let me change the mac that the AP sees?
[22:47] <robotdevil> I would like to use nouveau but seem to be experiencing problems
[22:47] <dadexix86> ki7mt_ thanks for the hint, it's a lot better that where I am now. I will soon look into it.
[22:47] <robotdevil> when I hook more than one display to the card nothing detects it
[22:48] <robotdevil> box cannot even restart until one is unhooked
[22:48] <robotdevil> was trying to use vga and hdmi and nothing
[22:49] <bubbasaures> robotdevil, For the record all this will not get you help, answering questions with no additional info is the path grasshopper
[22:49] <robotdevil> I have to restart the machine with whichever one I want to see in for it to be detected
[22:50] <robotdevil> bubbasaures: what would you like?
[22:53] <robotdevil> how may I check to see if nouveau is being used and its not some vesa thing
[22:53] <robotdevil> seems weird that it is not detecting both screens
[22:54] <squinty> robotdevil:  personally I like using   inxi   install from repo's and then in terminal type   inxi -Gx
[22:55] <Lama_> Hello, can anyone help me with using a Logitech G600 mouse and a Logitech G13 Gamepad on Ubuntu 14.04.1? Would like to be able to modify the keybindings and LED colors.. Ability to have things on the LCD panel and change profiles would be awesome too..
[22:55] <squinty> robotdevil:  fwiw  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[22:57] <squinty> robotdevil:  http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/81252/en-us   suggests  the 346 driver.  might want to hunt around there though to see if the 331 (which is available via repo's ) supports your unit
[22:58] <srt> Yo Ubuntu
[23:12] <robotdevil> so inxi says vesa driver failed fddev,nouveau
[23:12] <miguel> g
[23:15] <robotdevil> also says direct rending working and using gallium
[23:15] <robotdevil> so I wonder whats up with only being able to use one screen at a time
[23:32] <anomaly6> :)
[23:33] <robotdevil> squinty: wonder why the additonal drivers doesnt see the card
[23:38] <remuxa> !sound
[23:41] <Moonlightning> I did a clean install of Ubuntu onto a fresh encrypted LVM (nothing else on the HDD). Didn't get any errors from the installer, but the system's firmware doesn't seem to recognize it as bootable, though I can use GRUB on the liveusb to boot it. `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` and `sudo update-grub` didn't help.   I need  to use my su priviledges to do so.  And I know its name and PID
[23:47] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, Is this a uefi gpt setup?
[23:47] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: yes
[23:47] <Moonlightning> inbound pastelink
[23:47] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, Grub  would not go to the mbr
[23:48] <bubbasaures> no sda
[23:48] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: https://gist.github.com/BlacklightShining/6d438941126c719a6e96
[23:48] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, The paste was just to confirm what you just answered
[23:49] <Moonlightning> Ah, okay. Well, how do I install it to the MBR?
[23:49] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, You have a msdos legacy setup partiton table and all
[23:49] <Moonlightning> I do?
[23:49] <newbie|3> How do I kill a process?.
[23:49] <bubbasaures> you would have to have one
[23:50] <Moonlightning> newbie|3: you need to either be logged in as the owner of the process, or be root (or have a special kernel privilege). Find the PID and `kill $pid`.
[23:50] <Moonlightning> newbie|3: see `man kill` and `man pkill`
[23:50] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, I did not say you have a msdos but that that is needed for the mbr boot
[23:50] <newbie|3> Moonlightning: Thx
[23:51] <Moonlightning> I wonder…
[23:51] <Moonlightning> !kill | newbie|3
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[23:51] <Moonlightning> Nope, not helpful.
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[23:51] <Moonlightning> Mods!
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[23:54] <Moonlightning> Sorry, what?
[23:54] <DarkBloodWolf> That you Drone`, she was also spamming me in PM
[23:55] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, I can't be more clear honestly, do the research. ;)
[23:55] <Moonlightning> DarkBloodWolf: pretty sure Drone wasn't the one to X-Line them :P
[23:57] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, If you let people hold your hand you will not learn, doing the work yourself stays in long term memory
[23:58] <Moonlightning> bubbasaures: Fair enough. I'm all for hands-off teaching.
[23:59] <bubbasaures> Moonlightning, I figured you were, this channel just has some whom do this and it is well no helping really. ;)
[23:59] <bubbasaures> not*
[23:59]  * Moonlightning nodnods.